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I lig submission to Fraaee, but they were not without
hope and coosolation. In yiehhti; this sore add
reluctant obedonice, they must have looked to bet-
ter days, they must have looked to a country where
'amour was inviolate, where integrity sat euthroned,
mad funned the character of the nation to which
they inight resurt as a tallying point, when oppur-
twiny should serve, and make a great effort for
the recovery of their liberties and slide iendence :
But such a country as that, where is she now ?
Where is she taw?-1 do not, however, wish to
prese the argument to its full length against Mi-
nisters, or to hold them to the full extent of the
responsibility which they have incurred. I impute
uothing more to than than a too zeady acquies-
cence upon light grounds. This is enough for my
tintpuset and if it be ondeniable, then, limy, if you
rajeat the motion, the voice of the country, from
ose end to the other, will concur in condemning
their conduct. A Noble Lord nos admitted, that war
is unavoidaoly a scourge to the innocent, and
therefore contends that the Danes have not sal-
feral more than the most blaineleasi people have
doae in similar eireum stances of iteceisity. I grant
that war generally affects nentral and mooffending
nation.' ; but this was not 'nerdy a scourge, a
chastis.ineut indieteil upon the Danis, it sy .it
to entail upon the innocent, horriple dettractiore
The planner of this ex se I:non ought Cot to. ha.,
supposed lie was prepiring merely a scourge. He'
sognt to have looked to wo.neu weeping over their
slaughtered infanta, children hangiug upon the
corpses of thair mutilated perents, the young and
the aged, the innocent aiid the old, sacrilical en
one dreadful Ma•is of death, horrur and confusion.
!rine is the picture which the idan -er of the cape-
'. ditfon might to have hod in his conte:riplation. I
would ask him what would be said of a highwia,-
mau, who should fire a blunderbuss into a carnage
foil of defenceless uoorleading women, because tie
coachman did not deliver up the remiss into his
bands, theoisment they were demanded 1 And yet
it is a paralel case. I really see no differenee be.
twetu went. By those, however, who would not
allow this character to apply to Denmark, it has
been said that she was so inveterately, so inairri-
gaily huatile to this country, she oily waited the
hest o,sportunity to renew the northern confedet a .y,
mind *hew herself an open and decided foe. NOW,
if this argitusent be- good fur airy thing, ahem
.is yaw consistency 1 Why did you not act up
to it, and in the manner midi a sentiment requites?
Why have yen left it hi her power to do tile re..,
of which you are so much afrsal ? Way
site her an opportunity to bir tint thorn in y
sides from which you apprehend so much injury ?
Why have yoa left her 10 possession of Zealand, of
the Belts, and the Sound You only act n , to a
port or yunr arguinent. You hare forgotten half
your &Diem .1 on say you were comaynied by so.
enmity. Be it so ; but if you sego • upon t .at
ground you must advance a positive neceoity, no.
thing short of nn alisolate necessity. A speeds.
live necessity is nonsense, it is a solecism in awns.
You can draw no hue. In necessity there aro no
degrees, no vanations, or shades. Every thin; short
of neee..4ity is only policy, expediency, convenience,
wesueh like. It may then he asked, how are you
to define the line on the °that. stile ? Nothing is
more r 147. It is Yleaued by huuour, by integnty,
by right and justice. These are sentiments sad
principles that can never be ruisimilersto.scl. Their
nature and lien to cannot be mistaken : they cannot
be mired with base meta!, or confounded with
what is dishouourable and unjust. Had Denmark
been false, still these are the principles with
winch we 'hourld have met her hostility ; we should
have met her with honour, with-fortitude:but where
is our fortitude, if, iu the reduced state of the
enemy's navy, and the bdlient coudition of our
own, we were frightened by lb Danish ships of
the ling ? shade of Nelson, do not despise us !
We do not ail think Ws meanly of tundra'. It
has been said, that this country, stoma in itself,
if united and trut to its own interests, may laugh
to acorn all the assemblage of fareika force that
could be brought to bear against her. If this be
the ease, what ought we to have dour now ? Were
we to run to the leant relouree of stripping Den-
mark of ships fax a year ? It cannot he sand that
we hare done more. Denmark still possesses
docks ; she lase timber and all the means oral pre-
parations for building a navy. Do you think
she wants mechanical force and assistance
She may ant have good officers; but possessing
the root of strength, she cannot long want the
irapplement, and every thing iteces..e-y to complete
and develope it. Whereas by Ca, act. which at
the most gives only as iasufficieut and transitory
advantage. 3on !me done pan-self a great and per
injury. Yon have done an act that de-
prives us of all chance of advantage that might re-
sult from a new realer of thing.i. or an; change of
circuinstaivees upon the Continent on Europe.—
Rosana is now our enemy, not mealy in form, bat
she is full of rawcour of heart against you. If this
be the temper of Itusion, what then must be the
feeling of Denmark. with its capital destroyed,
and ais portion of its inhabitants buried in it.
rains? I really wonder that a better case has not
been male out. l's what a state must this comae,
stand, when Ministers. io such a case, depend for
their just tication and defence, not up ,n facts, but
open speculation? If they had brought nut a
Mitipsfactory explanation. I would hare thought
them entitled to the best thanks of the enuntry ;
bat if they have not done an, if they will not
give even a decent or plausible reason for their
conduct, what are we to think of them ?
Tina we had a right to taped from them : and if
they bad adduced even emit a raison for their ex-
traordinary evader:, they would receive the adnii-
ratioa of the country. Hear ! near! Some
sat...sfactery reason or eeplensettos the country
Tae ennetry is shy, to it--the country
feels its honour implicated in the attack on
Denmark. mad that boron- is its dearest interest
and care. If the country has not been clamorous
ranch expienswou--if it has.betrayed raiaians of
,amnions--I'll toil you the wawa why. At one
. the 'twig& of the Roman History, whoa the
nghts of the pool, were Anomaly "misted. and
far ..1 jaatice teaapled larder foot. and the peo-
pl• -elm/wet passive, their conduct was attributed
totae d ind of the militara. sod the fear that user-
tio woo lead to a cha evils: but that
is ant the . Ago psis sic of Pnglao I with
respect to irk •• on Denmark. Their silences

does not arise from 'path/ es iiiegost. They hare
beet silent, because they looked to Porliatinent ;
because they have looked to you to militant and
maintuio the caanseter of themselves and their
country in the eyes of Europe.
The Earl of Ll3lERlCKraid,howevergratifjutg
it might be to the Noble Lord* to have the paper.
laid before them, he felt surprised to see a Nuole
Baron (Lord Hutchinson) come forward in that
House, anal relate a private conversation with the
Emperor of Russia, when he was the representative
of this Nation at that ('ourt. It is said we had
so much iujured the honour and morality of tin&
country, when we took possetisiun of the Dauish
Beet, that it has not left u, the means or c et re-
coveriug that great and gloti name of justice,
that we have heretnfom so ably sustained through
the midst of the different wars we have been cu-
gaged in. Could the Noble Lords tleiq, that
during ere lust war the Danes had dour us much
injury ? they did not act as neutrals, but as secret
euenties. In the begin ii ittg of the Wit war, they
allowed' our enemies to carry their prises into
Norway ; although they were not condenmed by u
Danish Tribunal, they allowed a French Consul
to preside, mei coodetun your vessels. In the
year *799, llis Majesty** then Ministers found
themselves so iojnred by the conduct of the Danes,
that they ap_plied to the Court of Petersburgli to
i!ppoint a Minister to rentoustrate at the Count of
I..naark, amid to rat a stop to the measures that
they had been ca: tying ou to thU great detriment of
the Allies. The Danes, at that time, ysere so
sensible of their improper conduct, that their Mi-
nister i n this country, sail also at St. Petershargh,
had tlear baggage packed up, expecting au imme-
diate recall. In loot, Lord Nelson was obliged to
..;o oft to Copenhagen : the issue of that bushaets
was so well karma to the House, it would be only
wasting their time to Recapitulate it. Thew was nut a
Noble Lord in that House' who would give the af-
fairs of Denmark a serious consideration, but
would be °blitzed to-say that Denmark had been
our secret ;sad inveterate. enemy far twenty jean
past. There were is :1 of the line of Danish
ships at Copeuingen. awl twn on the stocks, which
ungat have been ready ia two tnootha, aati Id mil
belonging to Russia at Cronstadt, which made 36
sail ; and would the Noble Lords say this was a
force that we were not to apprehend danger front ?
that it was so small a fleet that it could uot. give sus
a momentary uneasiness? He did tot believe
that we could with ease, (as extensive as our navy
was), keep such a fleet in awe : There was a part of
the Empire which would have been muchendangeo.
ed, Ireland. He woold not say he loved it as well nM
he did England ; but if this country had not iscen
the place of his nativity, he could not say that he
could have found a diifirenee. It was well known
with what facility a passage could be made to Ire-
land. It was to he remembered the disposition of
the people of that country. It was chiefly icilia-
bited by Catholics. lie did not wish It to he
thought that he was speaking of that body in ge-
neral, when be amid there was a sect or seed
amongst theist that re,uataed from the late rebel-
lion ; but at the mine time he believed there were
Catholics of property ia that country, who would
be as loath to accept of the French fraternal embrace
as any Protestant; and he would go further, and
say, that he believed that every Catwalk hi that
country that had property, would lose their ex-
istence for their Kitts and Constitution ; that they
wished for etaaacipatton, that they wished to have
equal rights with their fellow.usemwas nat oral, and
he would not attribute any blame to than for it,
nor would he say that they ou..lit not to have theta ;
but still he had nut the treat depeudeme on the
loyalty of that c.eintry that the Noble LotAt op-
posite to him had. Ile was con. imed that the:
Nlinisters.had time fag cenfoletice of the people. and
did not doubt but thedecision of the House that
night would 'hew it. •
The Earl of JERSEY spoke in farm: of the
motion.

Lord HAWIiriBURY 1241, there never *as a
subject came hetes that Howe that gave him
more anxiety, on s.-count of the Aare he had in
that business a ith his Noble Colleague.. 1k Of
hit friends never did contend that necessity should
oblige this country to depart from morality. As
rich as he did deplore that His Majesty's Minis-
ter., hail not the 'approbation of -the Nolde Lords
on the opposite side. he would have still more de-
plored, if they had not done their dnty. There
had not been any thine done contrary to the law
of nations, 11 bat was the law of walrus' The beat
writers cm the sniiject told therm that it was the
same law as hetweea man and man in a state of
nature ; there had heel' modifications of it to suit
the reined age, hitt *hen it was broken throuo by
other pewees, it was tune to bring it bail It in its
primitive state. But it was mkt, it ass not la arms
that we were to fly; hitt what a nuld be left us
in • state of nature. where nor preservetion was
attacke I ? Ile wonht rat the ewe of an individual
—suppose an individual had declared war against
the human raw. and pat eery law, bath mead
end divine, *lisle • wenl.l it not be jest:646le to
seize the arms he bad foe the destruction of the
human race He felt that, ender the circum-
stances in self eh they were placed, and as painful as
it was to carry into it:wittiest the seizure of the Da-
nish fleet, it was done in that mill and Minium war,
that always characterised the British arms. Confd
any oar doubt, fires the papers and infor.nation
before them, of the enemy's wishing to combine
the whole powers of the Colitineut against us ? Then
the 14 question was, Is heiller they woold have
joined them? And the 3.1 was. whethers if thee had
entered into web a coifs deracy, they could have
carried it into execution? At the time of the
Treaty of Tilsit, could any emote' iinsibt the effect
'that treats was to bave, is former;; an armed mari-
time ronfederary tte: ,st 0.1? Was not the fleet of
Denmark the ter of that cnnresleracy ? 'What was
their avowal ? That they were to keep re. tent.. the
Caotineat, and to eiccfude on- riwnels f-oes their
ports. 'Did not Prissia. 'n apologising to this
musky for the peace she lia.l m ule, avow, that it
was the "wean erFsesee. and under so other terms
cosh! she have aewairesli 'a peace. and she was
onlieed„ from dire necessity, to simu;esee ? It ass
net the inibrwatine that the puhre lid home
tbren, that deteruiinert Hit Ma';es!y't Ministers to
act as tip.? tiorl-1t was prisithe ii.forwmtion from
a nervase sourer. wlii-h world coorinee the cunt
violent of their Lordship' vibe &snip:wed of the
°it

meature. It was true, that any measure testing
on ruformatiou, the nature of which prevented
disclooure, was in all c9:4:5 liable to cavil ; but
there have been instances where Parliament have
considered such information a grouad safficient
for it to act upon : and particularly where the
measure arising out of that information was sup-
ported by strong concurrent probabilities. It was
needless in that House to continent upon the
avowed designs of France to confederate in secret
hostility against Great Britain even those nations
whom she could not 'recite into actual war. Yet
if a doubt remained. the case of Portugal must
dissipate it. Subsequent information had proved
that it was the determination of Bonaparte to have
seized the fleets of Denmark and I's:Kluge,. To
the former Government his Minister gave the
immediate oetion of extinction or decided hos-
tility with this country. Can the House be-
lieve that Denmark was the only neutral to be
spared, that her means were of no value in the
eyes of the enemy of this country ? Much had
been said of the odium attached to this country
from this measure, among the various states of the
Continent. Ile could not credit it. The Coo-
Uncut can have no feeling more strong than a dread
nod horror at the devastating power of France.—
'the Continent mu►t. and did know, that Great
Britain is the only parser that stood between her
and universal dominion. It was the caritas that
ar some future period would revive the Powers of
Europe to it sense of their degradation, and to •
recovery of their rights. Was it an ordinary Ms!
that there was but sue independent Power on the
Continent of Europe ? arid was Great Britain to
suffer such means as the flettsof Denmark and Por-
tugal to fall within his grasp ? Was it to suffer
.him to realise his wish of seising ships, colonies.
and commeree ? Upon these three grounds, first,
the designs of Frauce; secondly, the practicabi-
hey of the attempt; and, lastly, the magnitude of
the object, as connected with the existence of
this country, he contended that Ministers were
hound, by their duty to their Sovereign and country,
to have executed this necessary measure.
Earl St. VINCENT declared, that with the co-
operation of Great Britain, the island of Zealand
was less exposed to invasion from Holstein, than
Great Briniest was from Boulogne. He also ob-
served that he was well acquainted with Copen-
hagen for the last forty-eight yeurs, and wa► con-
vinced that the Danish fleet was in an equal state
of preparation every year before. as on the late uu-
justifiable attack.
Earl GREY, in an able speech, of which
we regret the length of the debate, and the late-
ness of the hour, has prevented a full report, con-
tended that the menace against Copenhagen
impaired the best basis of our orenrity, by sullying
our national fame, and degrading the honour of
the country. He took a comprehensive view of
three positions on which Ministers rested their de-
fence; he admitted, that after the disastrous issue
of the war in Poland had added Russia to the
melancholy catalogue of Rations prostrated at the
fret of Frame, the views, and. ressurces, and
influence of that Power, would natnrally be exerted
to turn ugairust this country every means of annoy-
ance and hostility ; but there vow a couseleratioa,
front the views of policy which might be supposed
to govern her councils, that in his opinion tended
to preveat the invasion of l)entnark, or any viola-
tion of her neutrality. If France menaced tier with
Ifol,tein, she possessed a preponderating menace
in the alliance situ England, and in the support
she would receive from our great military and ma-
ritime means. So that were Bonaparte intent upon
the ultimate possession of her marine, the means of
ter tatuileleat to that °biro, was, by accelerating
tier ailiairce w nth Great Britain. and thus placing
her hopes beyond the possibility of being gratified.
The Noble Secretary has counselor:iced to the
House the opium:is of certain officers. Really it
was nnparalleled in the ennui:: of Postiament, to
see Mntiner, On a motion for the production of pa-
pers. iu the habit of reft►+ing them, state same mo-
ment that they iusalt the lionise sod their Sovereign,
by reading partial and garbled extracts. With re-
spect to the information obtaitied, it was in answer
to a oration put %%lieu in a state of war with Den-
mare. Would the same answer be given, if the
question bad stated that it was the intention to sup-
, port Zealand with the navies of Denmark, Sweden,
and Great Britain? There is, also, in the arguments
of Ministers, this mealiest error—that they con-
' eche that the resistance of Denmark to trance
would be followed by desertrn on the partial Eng-
land. it ass no proof to say, that because, is the
year nut. Denmark was hostile to us, than there-
fore. she was ready. on every future occasien, to
confederate against as. Writ not more I kely to
suppose that her sense of what she before suffered
would operate to pre duce aditierent line of cuuehict?
That when she reflected on the destruction of her
commerce. the hoe of her colonies, and the sei-
zure amuse of her ships, she would rather avoid
the li ae of action that would unavoidably terminate
in a similar testa ? Would she not take also into
her calculation the great increased maritime mean
of the power whom s►te was propobiog to provoke ?
The Noble Lord has alluded to certain dispatches
of mine, as convey ing a dread of a hostile feeling
en the part of Deumack. He was nght in not go-
ing into the details, but merely limiting bainselt to
a general iosinuat►on. Still it was impossible
not to complain of the indecency to the pub-
lir. and the nal-airline to the individual con-
cerned, in puhlishing partial and garbled ex-
tracts. It was done against himself and • respect-
able and highly meritorious character. Mr. Gar-
licke. the Late Minister at the Court of Denmark.
His dispatches were in another place most foully
quoted. and what was considered ass possible ere,
commanding diligence and caution, has been by
-Mminers. for the worst purport, converted into ■
defence for themselves. There had been much
..tens laid upon conversation and intern ems, but
there was nothing of that noun aent danger which
coald aioae justify the mrssore. Ministers
say they ha 3 receised various information from
every fOreign swan with wbo.n they were in cor-
respondence. Why not give the redraw,* or the
dates ? They disl not get intelligence to this effect
from Ur. Carlisle. Again their authority has Irani
from the disarleciatl in Ireland. Lomita-41c, how-
ever err might einawintiee the IrCepre and 'Atile the
es etation, of the diaries red, w such now le lit
Itela.sd. has too much prioleme and t obey to

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acqusMt them with his tiews seed intenf.cns.
respect to 'tussle, their conduct was inexj•lii.
They pass by the principal, and punish the
cent Power, whose only crime wasa submission to
schemes of the very power whom they lusher'
couciliate. Russia, one of the priutipal passe,
the arrangements of Tilsit, was to be cuaciinited
Why not extend the same principle to the Dah
who, according to the statement of Ministers, it
compelled by those very arrangements to engage
hostile confeclenation? Where was the consistency?
It was suited to the intelligence alleged to be received
from God knows where, and from (sod knows t. hots.
Who was the informant ? Was he the Minister of
the Court of Portugal ? Where was lie ? Kas Ile
gone to the Brazils, or was he at Lisbon ? They
well knew they had no such information, and there.
fore it was that they have net attenipted to produce
it. The Noble Lord has disclaimed any nachos-
tion to explode the public low of Europe, or those
principle% of moral justice, the adherence to which
had elevated this country to its once proud avid
dignibed station amongst the nations of the world.
He would-not be thought
ia the advocate of the new
system of universal non, which has now see,
substituted in their p ace. Still there were others
of the Noble Secretary's friends, who were of
a more lively disposition, who have smiled
at the contemplation of falling, if that iv:4
our destiny, with old Putfendorf in their hands.--
Was it for sneh a result that this war has been so
. long conducted ? Was it for this that the thus-
' dens of Mr. Pitt wore levelled, and the arrows of the
Antinhcoban directed agninst ievolationary France
and its admirers ? It was hot enough to recouctle
the House to this attack on Coptubtay,en, to thee
that the danger was great, it must be imminent
and immediate, as it were in a compound ratio et
the magnitude of the danger and the nearness of
the execution. Let them not deceive themselves
by thinking the danger was removed. It was La
the possession of sixteen bulks could compen-
sate for the implacable hostility and the ii..
veterate rancour of a brae and injured
uation. But Ireland was sated from insasic.i.
Why this appreliens'.on for Ireland, and not for
England ? Are Irishmen less brave, less hanly,
lers red is the participation of dangers, ar his
enthusiastic, in a cause they love, than the people
of England. In what part of the world have dr:,
not evinced as much pare patriotism, us great
love of glory, and as high a contempt for danc,er ?
In what: part of the world have they ',hewn them.
selves wantiog in all the proud requisites of c;:a-
racter, which animate the British soldier and sa:ler ?
How was it, that for England there was no liar.
whilst to guard Ireland, it was necessary to corn nlt
an act of injustice said opprer.sion upon au Moment,
unprepared people ? It was because the people
England were happy, loyal, -and united. Whilst
unhappy Inland was sacrificed to a blind
and cruel policy. Change your system toward,
that country, extend to its people the beuellta and
blessings of the British Constitution, and without
fear return to Denmark the ships you have seized.
Let them be manned with all her sailors, sad wiin
the implacable resentments of. the Continent et
Europe, yet there will be little to apprehend.
The security Ireland alone went* is freedtan
from her exclusions, a relcicae hum your cruet
system of injustice and infatuation. The It
Earl next referred to the attempts made to
Ministers to justify themselves by tat expedi-
tions to Constantinople, cases in no way ana-
logous; but as those subjects would speedily be
submitted to the consideration of Parliament,
he deeliticel entering fully into the merits of thcl/4.e
transactiecs. Alter a variety of strong and unan-
swerable urguments, he concluded his speech he
giving his assent to the ;notion of his noble frion.l.

Lod LGRAVE replied with greatwariliTh."
and defended the measure, as ne.ze,sury for
prewerration of the country.
Lord DARNLEY spoke in support of the me '-
Sure.

Lord SIDMOUTH foHowed on the same a te.
and argyed warmly against the injustice sif
measu►e.., The House then divided—
Tor th. Motion. Coolest; 35—Proxies 13 is
Nea-Cootests, Cod—Proms 37

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• LONDON,
TUESDAY. FasavasT 9.

We bare received American Papers to the ath.
Mr. Ross had not arrived, and it was reported its
America, that the &surd frigate, on board of
hews% bad been captured by the Patriotic, at,
French 74 which some tune ago escaped from the
Usesspeake. The report is, however, evidently
unfounded, as the Petrie& has arrived in France ;
and of courve if she had captured a Re.tish
f6eate, it would have been ineutioned in tive
Freaali Paper-. The Act for laying on the einlsar-
go was (arrival in the House of Representatives :iv
msjonty of (2 to 44. NICII.OL4s. of
upon ham?, prest, mud, au callea-„,• would L. a
powerful menus to bring Great Britain and Frau.-c
to terms. l•;utt.ta said, that France am contelol-
ing for tie ri?lits of Neutrals. and tLat Amt.

mill; t., smitist ixr in becuriar tl e Cecile; of tit.:
seas. These two r-utletaf.a tne sspi.osed is
more shoat' executive secrets than most others.--
While the Xtit was nosier consideration in Congtr.
Mr. 1.2 e yet • moved a claust to exempt Veeetsarn-
ployek/ iiiFisherini. Negatived--; eaa. 43--stays ‘1?.
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