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were tt a in number. Did Bast Weedy catalogue
'ethic') he held in his hand gave an secomit of some
handreds.—(ffear, Asa.)—Thev might despise it
• as they -pleated, but it had been collected on evi.
deuce which he would defy the Ministers opposite,
'with the aid of all their myrmidons, to chsprove.—
lie applied the term not to those by whom they
were surrounded iss that House, but to those
instruments whom they were so ready to employ
ou the other side of the door. A Noble Duke also
stated, that " There were 100,000 men in arms
between the Tyne and the Wear," when the whole.
number of men to be found in that district did
tint amount to so many ; and being asked where
they were to be found, he replied that " they were
not all above Krems& it was true bat many were
in the collieries." Under the influence of such
etatements as these it wits that this question went
a!irough the debate, and that the six Acts were car.
eed through both Houses of Parliament, and the
veto, correct information on the subject was that
sthich was from time to time brought to light
through the medium of the public Journals.
That House was told by the Noble Lord oppo-
site. 'that the Ministers had a strong cam in
reserve ; in the other Howse also it was stated, that
there was a strong rase in reserve, but they had
*ewer yet been able to get at it, and if the inquiry
moved fur by his Hon. Friend and Collealtpe were
productive of no other good. it would at 'seat drag
to light that case in reserve which had been so
carefully and mysteriously veiled. His Hon. Col-
league had preferred a grime charge against his
Majesty's Ministers, as to the authority on which
they gave the thanks of the Prince Regent to the
Magistrates and the yeomanry. The Learned
Gentleman opposite had fallen into another miss
take on this subject. He stated that it rested oulely
on the letter from Mr. Hay ; but it was not so. for
it appeared that, not venturing to trust to the lettet
only, they sent for the writer to ark him how far
his own statements might be relied on. It ap-
peared, therefore. that the Magistrates and yeo-
silvery. fur shedding the blood of the people,
had been rewarded with the highest and moo
honourable testimony of approbation which any
man in this country could receive, next to the
applause of the people, the approbation of the
Sovereign—(Hear, hear, and lawgisier)—and that
approbation had been given on the statements con-
tained in the letter, and on the testimony of Mr.
Bay and of the man who was sent op with him to
give a confirmatiou to their own statements. The
Learned Gentlemen said that Mr. Hay's letter hail
been contradicted in nothing; but that letter har-
ing suited that Mr. Nadia, sit the head of the con-
stable', went before the yeomanry, the evidence on
the trial proved that he followed them, which was
as plain a contradiction as any terms couldconvey.
But the Hon. and Learned Gentleman !teemed to
have thoroughly studied the documents furnished
by the Magistrates, withput bestowing the smallest
intention to the evidence which opposed them oa
the trial. Referring to the debates of that period
(for as he was not-in the House at that time the re-
ports of the debates were the only anthnrity to
which he could refer for information of what bed
occurred), he there feencl that. the ilikaalmr..for.
Dover (Mr. B. Wilbraham) made some state-
ments, on authority, which were not et all borne
out by the subsequent evidence. That Ho-
nourable Member asserted that the yeomanry
were assailed with blows from sticks, and with
stones, which the Noble Lord said they brought in
their pockets. and that the yeomanry displayed a
greeter degree of forbearance then could have been
expected under the circumstances of their situation,
!or that they never struck • blow until they were
assailed. But was there a man in that House who
remembered to have beard of more unpile/eked,
more wanton, wild more unreleutiog fury than
that by which the yeomanry were actuated ? He
hoped the Learned Gentleman who had before
mistaken him would not fall into the same nem
as he did yesterday. when another Hon. Member
was speakiug of these yeomanry, of supposing that
he meant to include in his censure the whole of the
yeomanry throughout the country ; for it was his
thin conviction that its ncsphice in England but
'Kam:better itself could such a scene have occurred.
The Hon. Member bad further stated, thet many
persona who saw the transaction had expressed
their Porprise that so large an astemblege
could possibly have been ,dispersed in we
short a period with so much ease. and so trifling
a degree of injury to the penmen, present. tile
(Mr. II.) had,. however, been informed by a Almost
respectable person, one of the speciel col in
Atenclance, whosie.eies were filled with Oslayeets lie
ilescribeil it, that he saw at least 4.900 Per e"ns
down orr the ground at once.--.-(f.aeghier.)—fle
Wm pot aware of any thing in the circumstance to,
excite merriment; if be had stated any thing ridi-
culous he was very sorry, but was it not likely
that so great a number would fall in the havoc
occasioned dry such an occurrence ? The sc-
. counts of the number of persons wounded bad
been much coutroverted, and it boil been at-
tempted to reduce them by a statement of the
iiumlser *Omitted into theiolirroary and the work-
house. But he could, were it necessary, state
marry reasons why the nniuber received into the
hospitals shoidd sot equal the number actuelly
wounded. It would, perhaps, .office for the present
to state, that his Hon. Colleague had presented in the
s'ourt of Ring'. Bench tfts affidavits from persons
he were wounded by the sabres of the yeomanry that
sky. Sonie struggle it appeared was yet to be made
concereing the atones. It seemed that some which
were afterwards picked up had the appearance of
being polished, so if they had been cerriud in the
pocket- That was a new species of argument.
lie had heard of the days when pebbles were in use
fur time purposes of hostility, but ems it probable
that a large body of people iu these times would
carry stones in their pockets for use in an moult
against an armed cavalry ? Gibbon, it was true.
biateJ that the Roman soldiers weut into the field
"1 battle with eighty pounds weight on their backs;
but he would contend that, with their pockets lull
of stones, it would 1-e impossible for any body of
people to the situation of the meeting at Mutates-
let, to piston's the necessity evolutions in such •
"nteet• lie might therefore safely dismiss that
*wry as an idle fable. The Honourable Gentle-
then read to passage from the narrative of
the Reverend Mr. Stmiley, descriptive of the
"'it kis the confusion of the flight, and the subse-
quent visible effects of the attack of the yeomanry.

That, litt it he,44weihtt.4. was the " justice an
au extended scale," winch the Hon. Member for
Newcastle-onder•Lyme (Mr. Wilmot) had said
that Ministers ought to encourage the Magistracy
of the country in exercising. The Solicitor-Ge-
neral had talked of giving the question in a small
compass; but he had distended it still wider than
it had before been stated. fie took in a series of
what he called overt acts of violence; he enu-
merated • succession of meetings in various parts;
he reckoned up eighteeu flags which had been dis-
played ;an to crown his climax of anarchy, vio-
leuce, and alarm; would they believe it, uo lees
than five caps of liberty I Why, had that Learned
Gentleman never seen an old halfpenny ? Had he
never heard or read 'of the old pageants, in which
a cap of liberty was always borne before the So-
vertigo I—(l.aagkev, wed loud cheering.)--The
emblem might, perhaps, be abolished on the forth-
coming occasion, because from being in some de-
gree associated with the memory of the French
Revolution, it would perhaps be considered as unfit
to be borne before the Monarch of a free people.
The Learned Gentleman bad dwelt on the Smith-
field meeting, and asserted what had never been
proved, that it was intended to propose the same
reputations for adoption at Manchester, from which
he argued that the latter was as be stated the former,
an illegal, treasonable, rind dangerous meetiog.
But the meeting in Smithfield had aot 'been dis-
persed, nor had it been attended with any
violence, mischief, or outrage ; why. there-
fore, was the meeting at 11clairchester, if its cha-
racter was the seine, dispersed by force, rather than
treated in the same way with that which had pre-
ceded
it ? He thought he had heard something
from the Learned Gentleman of his Hon.
Col-
league's (Sir F. Bordett'ir) imbecility. fie was
not sure of the word, but lie hoped his Hon.
Friend was not to be brought into any scrape on
that account—for, as Dryden said—
" To lit for treason was a serious evil—
To be Ismael for asneeose was the very devil."
(Laughter.)—fle then instanced the clumsy fram-
ing of the six Acts, Its proofs of the not over-ex-
pertness or capacity of the Learned Geutlenien ap-
point.. His Hon. Colleague had been reproached
fur aiot bringing on his motion before ; it was •
maxim of law, me/lath temples occurrit regi,"
and he saw no reason why the lapse of eighteen
months or two years should be a bar to the attain-
ment of justice or inquiry for the people of Eng-
land. in the former Parliament the subject was
evaded by the pretext of a pending inquiry ill the
Law Courts ; io the last Session a variety of other
business prevented it being brought on at the com-
mencement ; it was then decided to bring it for-
ward after the motion of the Hon. Member for
Durham on the subject of Reform, which was fixed
for the 6:11 June. At that period the Queen came
over, sod there was no longer a fit time fur the cLs-
eussion-of this subject. If his Hon. Colleague had
brought it on early in the present Session, before he
went up for judgment in the King's Bench, the
other side would have charged him with an attempt
to bully them by a display of his adhereuce to the
*Mons for which he was about to be sentenced.; ,
and the-gentle/um opposite would hardly ask what
bad prevented him for the last three month.. The
Solicitor-General had denied all participation of
Ministers in the transaction; that was unfair to the
Magistrates. after having thanked them. It had
been said that the speech of his Hen. Colleague
was an ample proof of liberty. Ile duly valued the
liberty that was still left him, and while lie was able
he would enjoy it. But was he to be told that
the people, after enduring every grievance, every
outrage, and baying their blood scattered about
the land, were to think themselves lucky that
their tongues were lc ft them to cornefain ? Every
effort for years past had been made to put dowp
reform ; nothing but military execution remained to
be tried, and that had come at list. Bat let them
skew that they had not lost their memories; let
them slits, that they had hot forgotten that their
couvtry once was free.; let them chew that they had
not forgotten the tuna when despotic.) and military
execution was ttairio....— - them ; let them

...s among
she, that some among them at least were deter-
mined to persevere to the last in the. course which
their duty marked oat. The Hou. Gentleman
summed up a long and powerful speech with the
following quotation from Cicero to Atticus. 20th
Letter, 4d Hook :—.l • I 1
" None (inkiest novo quoin= moilso civil's moritur; at
cam Dames ea quo stint acts, improbent,tiormatur, dolmas,
warietsa in re mina fit, apertegite lognaatbr et jam dare
gement, lawn medicine nails afferatur, Reqwe 'slim multi
Mei internecione posse arhitramur ; nee, videnius qui fiais
eedeod, preter exitiem fotnros sit."
Loud cheering followed the cbnclasion of the
Hon. Gentlemats's speech. '
The. Marquis of Lou no ti DERRY rose and saidvi '
he would but abuse the patience of the Houstrilyi
going into more argument on this question thani.
was absolutely necessary to the performance of WI
duty.; but he was sure, after the many personal(
allusions that had been made to hint in the coursed
of the debate, they would feel that he owed it to
, himself and the situation he had- the honour to fill,
to justify himself from the attack that had been
made. The speech of the Hon. Baronet had shewn.
that the object of the motion Was nut so much the
discussion of the. Manchester question as a combined
attack on his Majesty's Government. He slid not
COMpillil of the mode of attack. hat felt quite
satisfied that the conduct of Ministers should be
argued io connesion with that question, and be
hoped to be favoured with the attention of the
House while he opened to them a general view
of their conduct in the trasioaction. The Hon.
Baronet was quite unfounded in his statement,
in which he had been followed by a Learned Gen-
, demon opposite, that this transaction had taken
place under the sanction of his Majesty's Govern.
• meat ; and he hoped the House would give him
full credit far sincerity when be assured them, that
Government ors wholly and entirely distinct from
the tranciatiou, and that it was siot till after it was
accomplished, and come reported to them in the
documents from Mr. Hay, that they (the Ministers)
had any kuowledgeof it. The Flon.Baronet had repre-
sented his Majesty's Goverutnent as travelling out of
their course to thank the Magistrates without having
any documents before thein• whereon to found their
opinion of the transaction. But the Hon. Baronet
ought its know that it was not the practice of any
Government, nor would it accord With the cones--
silence of the public service, to institute an inquiry
iii the first instance into every act of those employed

by the txecutite is the discharge of what they
deemed their duty, and not rather to give them the
benefit of that to which they were entitled, namely,
approbation for their activity and diligence. war-
ranted by the opinion to which they had a jest
claim, that they had acted with a view to the pub-
lic good, and a desire to perform their duty, how-
ever they might have erred iu theirjmutmsewlicihn
the exercise of their discretion as the
they employed. Why had not the Hon. Bart. noticed
the conduct of the Government towards the Magis-
trates as to the riots of Cambridge ? He would ven-
ture to say, that no other hue of conduct had ever
been observed by the Government upon cases of
riot ; not that they expressed their satisfaction at the
effusion of blood which had taken piece—no one
having British feelings but must lament that,
' bet their satisfaction was expressed at having Ma.
glandes and yeomanry (the constitutional bulwarks
or the country), who were prompt to act iii the hour
of public danger, and were willing to leave their
conduct to the subsequent judgment of their coun-
try. Had their conduct subjected them to the re-
buke of Parliament, or if any of them were now
to undergo trial, there might be some ground for
the present motion. But it was unjust simply to
turn the whole of the transactions into unjust and
injurious aspersions against the Government, as if
they were gratified with the shedding of blood.
Now. as to the case or the Hon. Baronet, he
wished the House to recollect the circumstances
under which Ministers were a second time arraigned
to answer for these transaction,. Although it was
not the same Parliament which lie was then
addressing, yet their conduct hail been arraigped,
and so far was it acquitted, that the proposition for
inquiry into it was defeated by a majority of 381 to
150. He wished to know what reason the Hon.
Baronet could hare for reserving the question for
this Parliament ? Why was he silent on this sub-
ject in the Session of 1820, there were at least
4 days towards the close in which lie might have
agitated it ? Because the Hon. Baronet thought
that he could succeed in reviving feelings which
had happily subsided for ever. He would not
argue it on the same grounds as the Hon. Baronet.
It was not the meeting at Manchester, but the
general situation of the country which was to be
considered. It was an organised system of sedition
and treason, which was growing up in the manufac-
turing districts of England and Scotland. of which
Manchester was bat a compartment. The same
system afterwards exploded in rebellion, and 100
lives became rorfeit, which were only preserved by
the merciful interference of the Crown. But for
the Magistrates, the blond that was shed on that
day must have been robatiluted by torrents. As
to the statements which be had made at the time, he
did not entirely vouch fur them ; but he had ofiered
the best iuforrnation he could procure, and nothing
, which had subsequently occurred, had led him to
believe that he was much imposed on at the time.
He had contended, however. as he did now, that
it would be useless to prove facts at the bar of the
House, which, if there was injury, should be
examined into in the Courts. He proceeded to

ecribing the circumstances and feelings under which
they acted. The verdicts of the Juries subse-
quently confirmed the propriety of that conduct.
If the meeting was not illegal before, it must
have become so the instant that the execution of
the wariant for its dispersion was resisted by
the multitude. The question then became nar-
rowed to the inquiry, if the Magistrates had exceed-
ed the just limits of their duty, sod if they had
acted in that spirit of cruelty and oppressiou
ascribed to them, which was forbidden by the laws of
This free and happy country ? He contended that
the military were not employed until it was found
impracticable to execute the warrant without them.
lie admitted that injuries had been sustained, both
by the multitude and the constables—bruises and
wounds must have been suffered, and pains endured
which it made the heart sick to contemplate. But
it was upon those who first caused the commotion
' under the mask of reform, urging the people for-
ward to rebellion, that the blood should fall, and
inSt on the Magistrates and yeomen. He con-
*tided against the assumption that Parliament
could do justice in this (mile which was not engin-
able in the Courts. He considered the measure to
hive been brought forward for the purpose of
creating effect in and not of Parliament. Had a
single action been brought by any of those suf-
ferers, the whole questiou they were now called to
try would have been set at rest. He ridiculed
the idea of calling up hundreds of Manchester
reformers, to depose upon their honour at the
bar of the House to the facts which had come to
their knowledge respecting the Manchester meet-
ing. There was pregnant proof of their having
not a foot of ground for their case, in their neglect
of pursuing it in a Court of law ; but this was
placed beyond the reach of doubt by the appro-
priation of the sobacription which had been subse-
quently collected. Their whole course had-been
to avoid trial awl judgment, and make their case i
an instrurneht for arousing the indiglistion of ,the
deluded people. Ile maintained that the Home
was not fitted far examining and sifting such a case;
and to whet would it lead ? Was the design to
impeach Ministers or the Magistrates? He did
not apprehend that the Home would entertain so
loose a proposition. He believed that it would be
disposed of moot unceventonioaslys if he knew any
thing of the temper of a British House of Com-
tnoris —(Hear) —they would look at it with that
manliness and courage winch they had treated all
former attempts to excite sod stir up the feelings of
the country upon subjects which ought net to be
agitated. Parliament had set at rest former tu-
mults ; it had delivered the country from the de-
lusions of another great question. The voice of
Parliament would be very magical also in its in-
fluence on this last vain and weak attempt : before
its thunders the dangers' of treason end disturbance
would, as they always had done, disappear.
Mr. SCA BLITT said, that the voice of Parliament
was to be magical, according to the Noble Lord,
which was es touch as to say (he supposed) that it
was not the voice of reason, but of somethiog be-
yond reason, and for ought that he knew the No.
bk Lord might be the greatest conjuror in the
world. Considering that the Noble Lord's speech
affected the character of a defence, it was not deli-
vered with the candour and modesty which belong-
ed to the undertaking. Narita had been suffered
l which wade the Noble Lord's heart almost to

bleed, am) yet he ascribes) the least worthy motives
to those who brought forward the ineettorr. Might
there not be others ite well et the Noble Lord, who,
if their hearts did not bleed, felt it least so south
commiseration as would induce them to attempt
to obtain redress for those injuries ? Leaving the
legality or illegality of the meeting entirely out of
the question, it was new to be told that in the ease
of a meeting. dispersed "under circumstances which
made the Noble Lord's heart bleed, each sufferer
was to be referred to his separate action for dm.
maget. He owned that, in his anxiety to pre-
serve his respect for the character of a British
House of Commons, he hell been of opinion
that such • subject was well worthy of their con-
sideration, and that there wits no reason to attri-
bate base and unworthy motives to any one Who
should propose it. He was very unwilling to
trouble the House. Though he had been fre-
quently alluded to with respect to the proceedings
at York, and the question there tried, and It-
though he could not object to the inferences made
un either sick, he must upon that subject re-
melts silent. Why Nadin was not called, or,
being called, why he did not appear, he'critild not
then unfold. He had sought the fulfilineut of his
duty on that occasion, in a fair and legal way, as he
had always done before. He wished to notice one
allusion which had been made, respecting a very
worthy Magistrate of Manchester; he had known
Mr. Hutton long, and he was firmly of opinion,
that Mr. Halton and the Magistrates had never
contemplated the dispersion of the meeting by the
military. It was not until they had received 30 or
40 deposition., setting forth the terror felt by the
inhabitants, that they resolved on arresting the ring-
leaden. Mr. Hutton had desired the bodies of yeo-
manry to approach the meeting while the warrant was
executing. Ile did not ask the yeomanry to go in
with the constables. He did not know why or by
whose order the yeomanry did go in ; but Mr.
Hutton was not conscious of their being there until
he thought be saw theist mingled pell-mell with the
multitude. The yeomanry certainly rode i• with
alacrity, for they overturned and injured a consta-
ble who stood in their way. While Mr. !Jul-
ton was thus anxiously gazing on the yeomanry,
Colonel L'Estrange, with his corps, took their
place under the window where the Magistrates
were assembled. L'Estrsuge asked Mr. 1-ful-
- if he had any orders for them ? To which
the reply was, di Good God ! bow can you
ask such a question when you see the situation
of the yeomanry." There were two Reporters,
men of education and talent, who appeared on the
trials—Tyas belonging to the Times, celled by
Mr. limit, and Mr. Horton of the i'Vetv Times,
called for the prosecution. Mr. Tyas confirmed
in evidence the account which he first published in
the times, from which it appeared that the yeo-
manry advanced, and required Mr. Hunt to sur-
render, which be refused to do till he saw tbe
warrant for apprehending him. Nsdin produced
it, and Mr. Hunt surrendered. One Saxton, •
reporter of the Manchester Observer, ..
hustinp. One. of the yeomanry recognizes
lid, in very abominable terms. bade his comps'.
uion run him through. This was attempted, and
the• thrust went through Saxton's coat. Saxton
jumped flown and escaped, and Tyas followed
him. So far the evidence of Mr. Tyas, and there
was nothing- in the evidence of Mr. Horton to
disprove this. The yeomanry then made a capture
the flags; and it was at this period that Mr.
Hutton observed them, and judged from what lie
saw that the yeomanry were already engaged. The
assault certainly commenced at that moment, ac-
companied with those horrors which had been per-
haps exaggerated on one side, thoogh they had bees,
•as much diminished on the other. In this lie saw
nothing to condemn in the conduct of the Magi-
strates, whom it would be harsh to judge accord-
ing to the mere circumstance', without oonsidering
the appearance which the danger wore to them,
and the feelings under which they were obliged
to act. But of all parties who could have been
chosen to assist the civil force in this juncture,
he considered the Manchester yeomanry (not a
body of farmers, but of tovviismeri) the most un-
fitted for the service. The politicol enmity in
which they held the labouring people at all times,
made it impossible for theta to execute this duty
with a due regard to feeling. He did not know
what right they had to disperse the multitude at
all, to whom they had given no intimation, as far
as the evidence went, that they had even a warrant
to execute. They bast represented the multitude as
having set up • cry of defiance. Perhaps it tnight
have been so. Was there any law to prevent the
sdultitude from shouting at the spproach of the
military, wlwm they supposed to be acting without
a warrant ? or was it to be contended that the
troops had a right to ride in among the
people for their amusement ? The public* had
a right to complain, that until Hunt asked for
the warrant, Nadin was the only man in the
crowd who knew that there was such a thing.
He blamed the unqualified praise which Ministers
' had bestowed on the Magistrates and military,
without even an expression of regret for those
dreadful injuries which were enough to make the
Noble Lord's heart bleed. What hope could any
of the parties have in • Court of Justice, after Go-
vermueot had taken au decided a put against them ?
Murray, the confectioner, who bed expressed his will-
ingness to wade up to the auldesin their Wood rather
than see the Reformers triumph, 'had aka declared
upon oath, that ha would not believe a Reforater
upon oath. This might have been the case with
the Lancashire Grand Jury, or some of them, and
that would account for the bills which had been
preferred against the yeomanry being throw, nut.
Certaiu it was that they were preferred, notwith-
standing the assertions of the Noble Lord that no
step had been taken to pursue justice in the Courts.
He concluded by supportiog the motion for inquiry,
which he thought the House best fitted to conduct.
The Marquis of LONDONDRARY explained.
The AproanltY-Glintiltet said, that there were
two portico relieved from the censure of the motion
by the speech of his Hon. and Learned Friend—
his Majesty's Ministers and the Manchester Ma.
gistrates. He thought that there was no case
worth inquiry left ; and he was Still more convinced
that the Inquiry should be conducted, if any, in a
'Court of Law.
'Mr. SCARLITT explained.
'1 Mr. B. WILBRAHAM rose to explain, but sat
anon without doing so.

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Mr. S. Wttattit opposed the motions
Lord MtLTini exploitied.
The cries, of " Question !" becoming 10ud...
Sir F. Botha-TT, mae to reply. The Noble
Lord opposite, and till wig? took his tide of the aigu-
ment, had wilftiltrahnt their eyes to the rest
question, which was out lietwiress.,.the injuied
parties and the Magistrates or yeomanry, but
between the Administration awl the peopin The
Noble Lord had put the derroce of the transac-
tions at Manchester on the general state of , the
country. He wished to harpy if Msnistaarifia
really stand clear of participation in the iiistimstieu
of these outrages T He quoted various nistrices
in which they had referred to their knowledl;e
of circumstances anterior to the. meeting., to
Ossify the treatment sti•titined by the multitude.
They had long before been iu correspondence with
the Magistracy, but they had siev..r laid theie own
aoswets before the Hons-. The Noble Lord had
stated over again, that which had been refuted'to the
satisfartion ofJustice Bayley, that the wament Cbuld
not have been served without the-aid of the iniliiary.
He hardly knew of any 'whin! meeting Which wet
for the parpose of expresspig their opuLion rof the.
corroption of that Hance, that was not denomi-
nated disaffected. Hr therefore could not see the
guilt of Mr. Hunt. It only oppeared to him that
the jury who found him guilty thought that 'Mr.
fjord and others who were indicted with him, at-
tended the meeting with au evil intention. He
agreed with the Noble Lord, the Member tor.
Yorkshire, that the meeting *as tint illegal, as
some persons who attended it, and were in-

dieted with Mr. Hunt, were acquitted ; the
Manchester Magistrates themselves doubted its
illegality. The Hon. and Learned Gentlennin, the
, ,ott .
sroucor-sseneral, told them that natty persons
whii were supposed to he killed by the attack of the
yeomanry had died from other causes, and to prove
it he had informed them that a child died of convul-
tinny, and a man from eating mutton.—(A laugh.)
—The Hon. Member for Newcastle-under-Lyme
went further then the Noble Marquis, for he said,
if any blame was to be attributed it was to be at-
tacked to the yeeramory ; but they only acted in
self-defence. ,
Mr. WILMOT explained, hut was inaudible in
the gallery.
Sir FRANCIS BURDETT,. in continuation, °beery-
ed, that the Noble Marquis had said he should rely
on the integrity of the House for the conclusion they,
would come to out this question, and he would tell
him he might rely on it as long as he kept his seat
where he did, for no person could dispute his
knowledge of the materials the House or
Commons was made up or, its there wee no man
could dissect an English 'House of Commons
better, and it could not be disputed that no
person ewer dissected an Irish House of Commons
better—/Hear, hear)—But differing in opinion as
he did from the Noble Marquis, and thinking the
House of Commons as formed highly corrupt—
(Ceres of " (alder, order !”--s• Chafe, chair !")
.-ILe__Setacat said, tie was an re sho Hon.
' Baronet would see the impropriety of his expres-
sion, which must be attributed as fulling from him
in the warmth of debate.
Sir FRANCIS BURDRTT sold, he was at all times
ready to obey any suggestion from the Chair ;
what he meant by the expression was, that the
people would sot be mingled without they had to
meet to address the Parliament, calling on them
to reform themselves. The war which had been so
much spoken of, in his opinion, was ■ war agaiiist
the people, to oblige them to suffer for the cur.
ruption of that House. The people only wanted a
free and uncorrupted Parliament, winch be con-
tended they were entitled to, and it tens for that
purpose the Manchester meeting took place,, 11
there was not an inquiry entered into in that House,
there could be no redress for those who suffered at
the Manchester meeting; they tried to get bills
found by the Grand Jury but without effect. Quo
young woman he knew that had received a sabre
wound, and if it had not beeit' for her long 'hilt it
must have been her death blow ; she !trained é
bill to the Grand Jury, and she being 'towns.
woman knew the person who inflicted . wooed,
but the Grand Jury threw out the . It tea)a
not his wish to cast any aspersion the Grand
Jury or their motives for acting as th'ey did, for
they might have taken strange notions of the na-
ture of the meeting from this letter •of LAW 'Sid.'
mouth to the Magistrates, thanking them for
acting as they did. The Magistrates in a neigh-
bouring district were applied to to take in-
formations, and they refused ; an applicatioo
was made to the Court of King's Bench to com-
pel them, sod the Learned Judges were of opinion
that the Magistrates were not Wagged to take cog-
nizance of any thing that happened oat of their
district. The last resource was to a Crumpet's le-
quest on the body of a person that had been killed
by the yeomanry, and unaccountable to relate,
when she Jury had made up their itionsts, and be-
fore they delivered their verdict, the Inquest
we. dissolved. He would ask, was not this
sufEciesit ground for en inquiry ? lie was con-
vinced the public mind would never be satisfied
without -inquiry intro the horrible transactions of
the 16th of August. If his Majesty's Ministers
would undertake the inquiry he would be satisfied.
and if they did, it could not he said that it would
irritate the minds of the public. The Hon. Baro-
net sat down amidst loud cheers.
The gallery was then cleared for a division.
The another* were--

I■ favour of Air F. Bortlett's Motion 111
Against ii.

Majority 124

The other Orders of the Day were then disposed
of, and the House adjourned at THUGS o'CLoCa
this morning.
_ .
At the tweeting af the Gouty of Lanark, out Monday
se'saight, • letter was read from the Lord Adana se, re-
questing the opinion of the Ceurity rseawesisur Ille-doe-
norly's Bill for extending to Soottish eremites& trials the ling-
hob wieder of challeagiag • certain luevalmer of the Joey,
which has already ham intralweed into the Civil Jury
Cows. A motive was wswiethal lisoCeientty nhoelil petition
*gaited the Bill, sad tastewel the Caeaty Members to op-
pose it. Os this, the perriousiptirelion was Mood. After
considerable diactieslass, it was niaislaril sei retains a Astay
ia the Bill, which had emu* as sturnpreted., swan tlor swet.
ins., and at Consiwistee was aprsianavi M cansarler 11.• awl.-
' jar.a and report to 11w County: As alte Annual *netts, of
the Causessissieuers of Supply of the 0011111 f of Stirling,. un
Monday last, it are. resolved, t ritlidiela eh* S Legistabute
against tbe priming of Mr. lituardy's


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