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London, England, 1809-06-01 00:00:00

VOTE in, CREDIT.

The Report se toe Committee of Supply, re-
-111; theta sum of 3,000,0001. he granted to Ili,
Alajcsty for the pumps-ow of affording ussistance to
AnAria, Spain surd Portugal, was brought lip.
rpois the question beim( put to agree with the
Committee to thus Resolution.
Mr. WarrassAD rose—" Sir. I find myself in-
volvel its no small difficulty. in deciding how to
vote on the present gm st;ons as agreeing hi port to
die null lieu ni pr0!.0.c.1, mid slielsgreeing. from 'mo-
ther part of it : u, order therefore to extricate may-
or:lout of it; l feet otitigett to pursue the course
followed during the last session of Parlianicot, by
snoring an addre,s to Ills Nlujesty oil the suhject,
us the only means of recording my sentiment..
Although I view, with extreme diffidence, the bril-
li nit we are stated to have had lately in
Portugal ; alit gli I dread that Ifilillet will tri-
umph, both in Austria and in Portugal ; yet I ant
out altooher without a hope we may ultimately
succeed in the contest we are engaged in ; ;M. 'elide
there is life there is hope, especially with those that
ardently desire it. I am, however, far lroin agreeing
with those who represent nor cause os being in a
more hopeful state than it was last year; on the con-
trary, I cannot but feel there is little to hope for;
and is the absence of a flight lion. Friend, (MT.
Ponsonby), occasioned, I fear, by indisposition, I
feel myself obliged to give my reason fur this opi-
nion. Front all that has peened, it should seem
that Austria could be fur from imagi g she
should be able to crush the power of France in
the contest she was about to renew, or of even
preserving herself; and )et it appears, Oct the
period she has chnoen for entering into that contest
has been ithwhosen. This step has been taken
without any previous Concert with this country,
if we are to believe the assertions of His Majesty's
Ministers; nay, on the contrary, we are led to sup-
pose, they even strovec to dissuade her from the
attempt ; the events. however, which have already
Wien place, have petit such as sufficiently shew
she entered into the war without having previously
acquired a sufficient knowledge of her own strength
and resources, or having formed au accurate cal-
culation upon those of I ranee. We have already
heard of the rapid advance of Booaparte to their
capital ; the fact is. it has been eery snore rapid
than .t was in 1/405, and now, a• the'', no reaiiii-
tauce whatever has been offered at VWuins.

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(Maga of conyisaletion opposite situ
1 ea. 1 agree, a Cant oppooltitiu .sas attetnpte
the Arihtloke Atay.holfivhda t a part of the
at the i.xpeose of the lits:a of buq:e of aft inhabit

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but no opposition whatever isa.offeissl ley the
habitants thetmelves. lo tike eriimer we have a
the French cuter bat: 0:11trio, owl received by
411mb:tante there with the name facility with wbith
tlw Tfritiit(i troops weir iei•ently welcomed.
like success has attended the French Arens in Bo-
hemia ; eu that tutu winch way I will, I see no ra-
tional ground fur hole; end whether A ustr,:r
been forced into three:arra, as contended !Or on Cie
one hand, or that she lois voluntarily entt red upon
it, as insisted rat the other, I einalot but consider
it as au ill-advised step 'oil her part, and as one
111:it must crew:tally ens! iu iwr ruin. Mir, in re.
,sheering the cooduci. •:1* this coutary. I hope I may
not be inistae.,-i, tin misrepresented, Or charged
with being the I...and to Boimpatte. as 1 here taws
libelled by the joitrisids in the pity of Minieters.--
.(Cro of order/ oilier .1)-31r, • I colt toad I cal
perfectly its order; and if any Gristle:mats tfaeks
otherwise, I will repeat ley noels, and he tu;_y
hare•thrin taken duvet fur the purpose of Makin,
me justify them ; stotwitkatinthaig l have brew so
Tibetlesl he the Journals iu thei pay of Iliastors, I
will avow that.vt is my opinion now, as it ho, heru
heretofore, that under the events that have e!r:•.ely
happetsed, and those that art still snore like ty to
It:sateen, pall grunt that isethis I cony torn sit a
false prophet ! I say, Sir. I think Austria is
likely to be niutiliihited, anti the Ptaii..sitla coo-
-1`• hat, then, vronaint for lint its
cuter into the strutaalewith the undsvidee awl aug-
mented 'power of Frame., single-Inamied ? .t ail
the prospect theo of what may lie the possible
event, me we not called upon to husband our ie-
Saill,eelo against the day of nee.l ? the itto..e espe-
cially, us, by looking Moo the treaty recently C4#ll
eluded with that potter, it appears we are lot
pledged to any specific ad Vallee to At:atria ; and
considernig that although no ui:l of uto:ley would
or could isifor,l her any assist:mete eilectual, erode r
her iminedixte difficulties ; yct, that very suiram..!
would operate as a most Severe pressure epon tie.
Contemplating, therefore. the enormous sums that
have brew already lavished upon that country,
whether under the name of subsidy, or tl at more
if/L.6011. nee of loan, I feel it my duty ta make a
s:sevel here, aunt to say that I ealitiot comieilt,
Beulah the whole House of Commons etoodateuinti
ears tout another shil!iur should be advanced lib
Austria. Although it has been said she his al.
ways loan a faithful ully ro this country, yet I
assert, that in 1405 slue was actually aesluced by
this country mid Ramis 111i4) a violettos of her lien.
•trality with Frnree. This appeured
apparent. hoot the State Papers pnblisl.t..l ut the
time, and actually laid on the table of this fosse.
The principle of that coalition was to restrain
France withiu her isroper boundary, and England
was to pay for it. if Austria had not, been early
crushed by her absolute conquest; she was, how-
ever, restored to her .auk analog the natites
of Europe. After that the coalition was con-
tinue) with Russia, and that too wits ended by
the peace of Tilsit. .1V here toes remain the lidpis
of success in the present contest, alien already tier
capital, as before, has been conquered ? or call lie
really eptertaiii the hope of being Japan rcsitora
her, merely by opening our pure-strin;es ? Sir.
there is another part of this subject to which 4
cannot agree to give my coming. I objeer, as •
precedent likely to be ruinous in its consequences,
to our paying the hills draws by the Anstriun Go-
verunient upon this country, without any authority
whatever; rather than do so, I would agree to give
the amount, or more, but in some other shape.
Sir, 1 trill not undertake to determine whether
France or Austria has been right upon the pre-
seat occasion ; I will even: admit, for the sake of
the argument, that the French are in the armee
(thoegh I could in:Maui°, that, in the various
veers which have taken place, France hies always
been the attacked. and not the attacker.) Yet,
if I cannot say that France is in the right, an
neither have I any grousals for asserting that Aus-
tria is so; because, after her capital had been cam-
quered and restored, sad a treaty entered into by
her with Fiume. I am not persuaded she has not
catered into the preseht oar in downright violation
of those engagassieista. It may be said, that 80.
eaparte intended to swallow her up; but that he
meant to have doilies° at the present period, when
lie had his !lauds full in Spain, I shall leave to
those who consider how nell all his plans are laid,
and whether he was likely to provoke a contest.uil-
der his present circumstances. I therefore tniuk the
presumption is, that she thought this a fit time for
entering into the war with Fiance, when she found
her involved with Spain. 'Fins, 1 confess, is my
opinion ; I have read the petters published on both
sides with some attention; I ihs not pretend to de-
cide beteeen them; bet I confess I am inclined to
believe that France did not choose the present pe-
riod for entering into the war, and that Austria stal.
It is upon these grounds that I dissent from giving
any pecuniary aid to Austria, at the same time that
1 assent to affording it to Spain and Portugal. Sir,
upon the latter subject I have some remarks to
make. It is a common observation, that we are
not apt to see our own failings, while we are suffi-
ciently clear-sighted in the faults of others. This
remarithres town in an esaioent degree exemplified
in the choice (list has been recently made of an
Ambassador from this country to Spain ; for if
there be another man in existence who has done
the lame thiliga which Bonaparte has done, it is
the Marquis Wellesley. The people of Spain,
they know tiny thing of this country, must know
whist that Noble Lord has am* in India; hut
then al! he did there proceeded Inman ardent seal
for the pahlic service, while Bonaparte. in acting
the ?AMC part, was urged on by the devil. They
were donbtlesa the same acts, however dictated by
different motives. Be that, however, as it may, the
nomination of his Lordship was certainly a bed one,
as the ',collie of Spain must know that the
Marquis Welleeley would cake both Spam and
Portoaul, through his urdent zeal for his country.
Sir, though I ant not owe of those who see mud,
advantage attending tavern meetings, sifter dinner
discussions, and bumper toasts, such as those re.
probated at the Crown amt Anchor, (for I cannot
suppose any stub Using to take place at the Camtlos
Tuseria yet we have a tierces-m.3w in the
Hon. Getitiemait over sophist one. Perhaps it with

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ntit the alas mentioned in the papers, but be that
at slowest* that on being called on by
Mr. loglis, lip gets. Mr. Cautiting. amidst loud
cries of Hear ! to gate the opinions of Mini.-
ters. I have his speech in my hand. but I stus'n't be
at the trouble of reading it. I caimot, however, but
think he -it somewhat beyond the line. Gentle-
men out of Asl.ainistrittion have been blamed for giv-
ing their opinions upo s such occasions, but I believe
it wall never before heanl, of Miniver* giving an
exposition of their views iii such in assemulage. I
do not know whether the Kneed' alluded to was de-
livered upon the table, a chair, or upon the ground;
but be it which way it may, I think the precedent
a had one. Sir, its order to free myself front those
calumnious views which have been stated in some
of the public prime, of which I will take no further
orifice than I have already done, I shall guard My-
pelf by posting toy of on the records of this.l
otsc. I think the al:coolils of the success of Sir
:sir Wellesley, to Portugal, have bee's touch
• Instead of three victories, I think he
• • .- oily eisgageil .with the rear-guard of Soult's
:army. I think highly of that gallica officer, but .1
ha has not a force equal to the task ; on the con-
trary, I believe the three of llonaparte is not 'Nisi-
lashed to Spoilt, and tnat h" will ultimately succeed
in the subjugation of that country. These ale the
grustorlaivh refuse me wawa ta the aid to Austria,
however heart-breaking it is to do it, but necessity
compels us to look to ourselves us a hr.( and
mitivithstaddiag the opinion' of the Noble
that we are to stereo(' ourselves A ast..at aaJ
S;) sin. I fear we most deltoid ourselves a, home,
*Lod therefore we should uot press too hard on the
'objects. l'he miens of Providence ire inserut-
aisle. Openings for making a peace have offered, '
and have leant passed by; they may again offer
and shrsald he embrace i, because peace is the first
Merano; that can attrod us ; and the gasatest Carte
that cart befall auy people is to sweetie, that war
insist of necessity lw corniest on without a hope of
its terns..iation.' Mr. Whitbread co:winded with
reading the Address he propote,i to move. as
fol-
lows : •
" Tbsi as lovable ad Iress 11!` presented to His Majesty, to
retire to ;to Majesty the th oaks of this House, for HO: Ma-
jesty'a mof
been pleased to inf.,' his fiitlif.il C eunatas, that the an.
tiro!' relation biworsi Hia Itaiesty aad the Emperor of Aus-
tria bare hero happily restored. and that Ilia Majesty will be
pieaseil to direct the treaty. whereto' each Illa-
ti▪
ons hive Ire,. confirmed, to's( laid betwe .11-n
the ratifieations shostd haste tern eselia•iged. To .:.sire
kits Mai" ty that that Itinae will lose no ton • I. tektite sort'
Treaty .1:42/ Its most serious consideration, to th:t earnest
laapc that it may he fustml, that the stipulations attach rum.
ty hare been r...teertett with viol Ink s.rl that the interests
ca.t eaisteitec of the 4 tutrian Euyic si not have been pat
to increased basset, bathe adoption of rash and precipitate
Soar wets.
• " arqueOst His Id .jetty, that this Hotta...sea with sa-
tisfaction, that the pwirsisions of the Treaty ir:th thc Em-
peror of Austria do out in-lade any stipatat,..n t r want-
:try mists ice from this Country. That 1.-1 t- al Com-
mons have worst with sarmese, that without t•!-•,rity
pees: on' the part of ties Ihjegty, the .hasten t . . • at
has tlinught proper t•i draw up... 1 His Vajestis ", . ,
rent •iii sti.as of oriney. 11. atil of her wet 'ike n/mi tit •., I••-it
with s 'Weser relre mirk refusal .any 'se seemnpa ;1.4
Coalts. VW .04.11 f• feel thesis, ;see
bits .4 to reiose the pity.tieat arch :..Its, or to give counte-
nance to mirk as 11 isoth.wated art us the port of s foliage
power w Lich, hetet tot all/ with out pareedent, might mica'
go to the witahlisliment of .. prereileot of a most dustman
atatiore, and tomb as th- 1-10.1.• Of Co./1.1101114 as enarittaas
of the pins, ran ^s nu no./ Cllo.vot to atipelion.
" Ard serpciose His Valenti. tit arson a
resew of the totirinnns sum- of twir, y, whirls, antler the di-
rect fol.. of saliu he% and urdrr the move inareious deors-
nthistue. of Loans, have bee a.trnnev,l by this country la
Foreign Powors• by far the hirgi.,-t part of which has been
given to the Home at Austria, aril the result assets ewer-
Moos, tot manifested to the/sr-sent state of Europe, His Ha-
jesty's C muds do loot f.t,l themselves jutted is
ceases • gto the a4vitare of ley further stows of matey for
the IF.mperor .411211111 Ti.• v.ew taken by IN It i'teity
apf ober iroiouled early to he nude moos the rt.
ounerea of he country, plaint), ahem, dint His Nlojavty dors
tau rustaosphite tilt 110111.11 Iv or straPiality makisix any
sot h large advance is roald 1., !Mete t,. give site great
isnoil support to the interims: 11P1221111ki Of the Atistr.an Cut-
Ptn at the saute tsar ewer; widitiraird hurdea upon
the Neil; el °Norse kingdatu ,:vcrey ant ought
sot to be isop,wcil, except %lore the To:tonal faith is
pledged. the sal•autage to Ur dcrired prohahle, and the
eapeetatiaa of ,lash advantage groanded sap.)* wit. 2 and well-
tnatdr..d eatvalatiott.
Toa,sare Hw Majesty, th it ft) 1•41 Z al a hop- Cr. be
entertaiaed of a samara! 1..-- in the Sp r 3-- a, and
coionstrucy sad effect eau be g., ra to the ear, t :out is; the peo-
ple of Panne' by peetedary arias:awe fe.rn this camera, His
Majesty's faithful (70111111.112 will cheer/lily grant tat His Ma-
jests the mama of fort 'tering an great soot slrvis. au object;
het is 11111/41•1; •1140, toe part of Sim people, His
IsliSetity's hfut COM Is 1114 V. 1,2111 ally rettnamictul it 10 1112
:tlltielity, that lie 311/.11C41i.11 thr moor, eiirrOated it" His
Itlairsty's mole• with the greatest care
and Use mot stleative 4 ; strays
that the ''we each antaceditig day sheaf the overplay of
strict erusemily in the management of the resoutees of the
state, Mustier to be prepared for that but rind moat mahatma
stooges, to which, as it appears to Its,. House, these moils
saint least."
blr. SMITE said, that he was hulloed to ply the
utmost !meet to every thing that fell from, his
Honourable Friend, not only on account of his
talent*, but OD account of that indostry with which
he was known to attend to subjects of that nature.
It was, therefore, with the utmost pain that he dif-
fered from him in the present instance. For his
Part. lie did not see any great distun Lion It/awes/it
absittliug ou a table at the Crown steel Anchor, mid
strolling on the Boor at the London Tavern. He
did not see oily great distinction between meeting
to celebrate the birth-tiny of Mr. Pitt, and meeting
to celebrate that measure most pro fff ii ent in his
Politics. mid one which perhaps those who sup-
ported him would be inclined to regard as the most
distinguishing feature of his character. Ile Mr.
Smith; was one of those who firmly believed, thin
the witr at the commencement of the revolution of
Freice was a defensive war, bit it appeared to him
that the aggressions of France, mince that period,
particularly in the instance of Spain. which was
scrum:ponied with myth enormities aggravotions,
entirely altered the complexion of the politica of
Enroias, and the nature of the war, lie be
that France had a disposition to attack Austria.—
na% extremely ready to agree, that his Holt.
Friend had brought forward etnqvg (orpiment.. in -
favour of the wide he espowsetl; at the same tune,
he considered them all reducible to one ground,
namely, whether under any cirrionasstinicess any stet,
Ithoulii be taken for the preservation of Austria ?
' He was overate to toying, that under tits etrgOnt. '
It mires he world not agree that Maiesty's
bliniaters should afford ally such protection. If the
Gentlemen who had some time re2ll conducted the
theatre of Government mat still ::1 }macre he would

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