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the intention of Ministers to dragoon the Parlia-
ment ?--(App/auses.)-otLet the people then stand
by the Parliament ; these were not less serious times
than the times of Lord Chatham, or those of any
other Minister who had ever presided over the affairs
of Great Britain. He was sure they would nut
stop here ; they would recollect that the person by
whom the Expedition to Holland, by whom the
Expeditions to Spain. were planned, and the Con-
vention of Cintra brought about ; and against
whom corrupt practices bad been proved in the
very House of Commons, which he had insulted
by such actions ; they would remember that he
was not dismissed in consequence of any one of
them, and that his colleagues themselves bad told
them so. When they saw a government tolerating,
encouraging, and adopting the perpetrators of such
mischievous experiments and corrupt practices, ,
surely they must see the necessity of inquiry ; and, ,
seeing that necessity, they mud have the spirit to
vote e'er it.
Mr. Dixon said, that it was not his intention to
follow the worthy Gentleman in any extraneous
matter.—He had but a few observations to make.
It had been repersented, that, upon the discussion,
respecting the Address, many among the party
which opposed it were runaways. Runaways, per-
haps they were, but they were come back again, to
try their strength with those from whom they fled.
It was his wish to encourage every young speaker ;
he did not know how he could better shew that in-
dulgence, than by advice. A young. Gentleman
bad spoken upon a side against which he would
caution him ; if he took his advice, he would not
persist in following the pack (is lanes). The Iroise
thy Member observed, that an Address to His Mo.
jesty was now very unnecemary, when he considered
the prosperity which the country enjoyed. The
Parliament would soon meet, and then application
mold be made for a redress of any grievance. He
odd, that be could satisfactorily account for the
conduct of those Gentlemen, who, by leaving the
Court. had incurred the impair/lima of running
away. In the summons Which had been issued upon
the occasion of the last meeting, the word Expo.
ditiou, tad lint Expeditions, had been used ; and yet
the Gentleman had proceeded upon a discussion of a
long series of expeditions ; and those who would
have heard him upon the occasion for which they
were summoned, could not patiently wait to a very
late hour, to hear him up on a subject fureigu
from it.
Mr. Idiot said, that a worthy Member asserted
there was nothing of disrespecs to His Majesty con-
tained in the Address. He entirely differed from
him ; there was language in that Address, evincing
a disrespect to His Majesty, wad to the Court ; he
could not comprehead the meaning of the word
disrespect. if that Address did not contain the lan-
guage of it. The ground of his objection to the
presentation of the Address was, that the Court had
no right to meddle in the affairs of the Crown. This
put him in 'Mod of an indictment in the Court of
King's Bench, of a ear an named Horseman, for pub-
fishing a libel, written by Hague, against the Duke
of Sussex ; the honest Counsellor, who generally at-
tended that Court is estate of i nebriation, observed,
that the Defendant had is right to libel as well as
the city. (A lough.) It had been said, the pre-
sent was on awful crisis ; he was not in the habit
of looking at things on the dark side ; and even if
he did think the ends gloomy, be would not be the
maa to represent its gloom, sad dishearten by his
example ; but the bigotry, instead of labouring under
this melancholy gloom, was enjoying the extreme
of prosperity. Had it not an exuberant flow of
the blessings of imports and exports ? Had it not,
within the last year, doubled the product of any for-
mer one, in itsadvantages from commerce ? and wise
could say the present crisis was awful ? He had
been laughed at by a worthy Member, but he was
insensible to any sneers against him, while in the
cesseientious discharge of his duty. (He again
adverted to the present prosperity of the country.
and was quoting Adam Smith, in confirmation of
his statement, ai to the increase of commerce, when
he was interrupted by loud cries of .6 Question.")
Mr. Alderman CIIIRISTOPIIER SMITH said, that it
was not only an insult to His Majesty, but to the
Absighty,sto offer au Address.
Mr. Csavreuotte. said, that, upon the question
being put, open the last day of meeting, he was
not prevent, sad thrreforehad no opportunity of
voting ; he wished the petition should be read.
Mr. Wageta said, the division upon the last
meeting was like that of the House of Parliament
upon the hominess of Ladd Melville ; he said that
whoever would propose a division, would bring the
Court into disgrace. A warthy*Memberhall spokeu
of abstract questions; this was really an abstract
question, viz. whether the petition should be read,
or should not be read ?
Mr. KEDUILS said, that he wished the petition
to be read, that he might judge for himself; it was
his duty to give his firm disapprobation of any lau-
goer derogatory from the dignity of his sovereign:
Mr. Sheriff ATZINS•Rid, that a worthy Alderman
had made very uncorafortable remarks upon his
conduct ; he knew not upon what principle they
differed ; they were, in his opinion, completely cu.
incident. He stood independent and fended ; he
knew that public men must have public reparation ;
he had an Address in his pocket, the object of
which was to procure that reparation. A (geode-
man said that he had acted in an ungentlemanly
manner; (81 Order! Order r); he was surprised
Ibis worthy colleague bad passed it in to side-wind
s way. The petition should be couched in most
respectful terms—in terms of extreme submission.
Woe not His Majesty to feel his dignity Jos much
as one in private life ? and will lie he inseor ble to
an affront offered to that dignity ? The question
before us needs not so much discussion, it is one of a
very simple nature. 1 say ihr best hopes of the roma-
try have been disappointed by this late calamitous

petitioning , to c
keeping it within the rules of respect and sub-
mission.
Mr. Sheriff WOOD said, that the Gentlemen who
had objected to the Address earned on the last day
of meeting, said there rhombi be an Address ; but
what was it to be ? one of their own choosing.
Perhaps they were afraid to alley their Address
with dignity ; not that they feared a repulse ; foe
on en application of Beckford to His Majesty, upon
a much more serious occasion, he was most grad
ciously received. It is from the Ministers., mid not
from the king, a repulse is to be expected and fe•
ceived ; and Dot the leer from them, since their ac-
quisition of Lord Wellesley. What did Lord
Cochrane say of the spirit of the eitizens of Low.
don ?—" In the city they crow like cocky; but at
Court they hang their beads."
Mr. Lucas said, that they were Dot afraid to go
up with an Address. in which heir respect awl
submission were testified ; but they certainly had
every objection to offer to one which contained. at
the same time, a reproach of His Majesty's .
misters, and a deprecation of his generals.
Mr. WA IITH)! AN raid, that it was the particular
concern of every main, that the Address should be
highly respectful : it, was so, in every sense, re•
presented in constitutional language. When he
should hear of 4 disrespectful Address. Ile would .
read the present as n contrast to it. It reflected
honour upon that Court. If His Majesty bad
corrupt Ministers, it was the.duty of His Majesty's
subjects to represent it, aid those were his best
friends who would tell him of the abuse of his go- '
vernment.
There was then a 616ew of hands, for the ques-
tion, and the Low, Marini declared, that he
thought the shew wan in favour of the amendment.
The bar was then cleared of strangers, for a diti-
sion upon Ali/lemon Wood's amendment, when it •
was loot by a majority of :7 ; the doors being
closed.
Mr. Sheriff ATKINS then proposed an amended
address, which prodscFclinzuch discussion.
The doors were tint stn ned, but we under-
stand, that, afteeertiiii • debate of four hours,
the Address,.* 4 amended. was carried; the cumbers
being--
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Severest fi4atitioes for Leases were read sad tr.-
(erred to tommittaeo to eiamioef and Reports for
payment of tradaienoteo hills. teed for gratuities to
officers, were riik'aglied to, and ordered.—The
Court then adjourna. •

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ie Address. They had a right to egmkgrcil htm.AP .salitonsitleritgkt us *yell. lie.
upon public measures, and sot only hliireirar, was immovable is. hiarophion ; and even
express them ; shame and disgrace iftlgkedotry was in )uch iiiitatys,he would nit be
rotathe neglect to exercise, or the thtellitaman MWI het it seas No men
be sentialents which reason dictated. couldtgpyMiat Wattisduct had, upon auy occasion,
Government, would anyone lie- been intlearniggqphe,coliceiyed the country de•
it there was no use in addressing Ills minded an inquiry into the conduct of Ministers--
en they saw Lord Chatham, under it had felt and exprerised indignation at theieien-
races had been experienced,still cow duct. Itio'man entertained a doubt of its right ut
;et Minister. did it not appear to be retitioning ; but that right was to be supported by