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LOCAL TAXATION OF LIMERICK.
Lund 6 JRT presented a petition from the landholders and house-
holders of the Eib= of Limerick:, praying that the parish of St.
Michael's, in et, may be included in the load taxation of
the city.
TM Earl of LIMERICK, with some warmth, objected to the
presentation of the petition ; and the Earl of CLARE followed on
the same side.
' Lord GORT rose under great irritation, amidst cries of" Order !"
The Marquis of LANSDOWN paid that be was sorry to inter-
nipt the Noble Lord, but be thought the time of the House ought
an to be occupied in discussions upon. a subject of local interest,
sod particularly as It was likely to lad to personal altercation.
The petition was thei laid on the table.
EQUITABLE LOAN BILL.
Lord KING presented a petition from the inhabitants of St.
James, Clerkenwell, in favour of the Equitable Loan Bill. The
Noble Lord presented similar petitions from the parishioners of
ISt. Luke. Old-street, and St. Paul's, Covent-garden.
A petition was also presented from the pawnbrokers of Man-
cheater praying to behead by Counsel against the Bill.
They were severally laid on die table.
The Reel of LAUDERDALE, as we understood, said that he
dwell spree the Equitable lean Bill going into a Committee.
4" DISSZNTERS' OATHS.
The Marquis of LANSDOWN presented a petition from the
Dimmer; of Wareham, in Doesetahire, praying to be relieved
from taking oaths in courts of justice.—Laid on the table.
WEIGHTS AND MEASURES.
The Iklarquie of LANSDOWN presented petitions from two
ttidtretruats, agidnft the Weights sad Measures Regulteket Bin.—
Laid on the table.
REMOVAL OF THE NORFOLK ASSIZES.
Lord SUFFIELD presented i petition from the sasembled ma,
gistracy of the county of Norfolk, praying that the assizes may be
held at Norwich on all occasions, instead of alternately at Norwich
and Thetford.
1 The Duke of GRAFTON said a few words which were in-
audible below the bar.
The LORD CHANCELLOR opposed the prayer of the peti-
tion, as it belonged to the Crown alone to appoint the places where
' assizes should be held.
The petition was ordered to be printed.
GAME LAWS.
On the Order of the Pay for the second reading of the Game
Laws being read,
Earl GROSVENOR said, that in rising on the present otea- RICHARD CARLILE.
sion he did not mean to trouble the House at length, because the Mr. HUME said, he had a petition to present from Richard
question had been so much discussed in another place; but there Cathie, complaining that he was still detained a prisoner at Dor-
were one or two points that he must refer to. The object of his chatter, for the payment of a fine, which he had been prevented
Bill was, to legalize the sale of game, by repealing that part of the from paying in consequence of the seizure of his property. The pe-
Game Laws that made it penal to buy or sell game; as his Bill was tition was confined simply to the point that he was treated very dif-
limited exclusively to that point, he trusted the measure would ferently from crown debtors in general. He (Mr. IL) had felt it
meet with the approbation of their Lordships. It would be more his duty to make inquiry as to the statements in the petition,
prudent to pass thus Bill during the resent Session of Parliament. through the lion. Member for the county (Mr. Portman). Ile
because it was well known the evils that mom under the present would not then state what was the result of that inquiry, but he
system. Many persons entered the walls of a peison in consequence thought that Carlile, as he was now confined merely as a crown
of acts committed against those laws, comparatively innocent in debtor, should be treated as such persons usually were ; and not
their conduct, and much better subjects than when they came out subjected to any unnecessary severities.
of than. The more facility that was given to bring any article to 31r. POR'f ALIN made some observations as to the necessity of
market, the greater, he believed, would be the quantity in the mar- treating a man like Cathie, who persevered in publishing such
ket of such article ; and he thought this principle would hold good works as he issued forth to the world, very differently from an ordi-
with regard to grune, as the cheapness of it would destroy the temp- moils, well conducted prisoner.
tation. No one now stole deer, because they might be sold publicly 3lr. Secretary PEEL was of opinion that when a Court of Jus.
in a market ; which, he thought, was a fair esemple to induce tice inflicted a tine, with a sentence of Mthcr imprisonment till that
their Lordships to put in practice the theory he proposed to their fine was paid, the prisoner continued to be subject to the rules of
notice. In foreign countries there was no fear of game being de- the gaol while remaining in confinement on ar:ount of the fine as
stroyed in consequence of its being sold ; it was publicly brought before. In that respect Carlile differed from an ordinary Crown
to market; and why should the apprehension exist here? The debtor. From time to time Carlile had made complaints to him
Noble Earl then moved the second reading of the Bill. ( Mr. Peel), and he had in consequence instituted inquiries as to
The LORD CHANCELLOR quitted the Woolsack and ob. Cathie's treatment in prisue.. He owed it to the Magistrates of
served, that after the fate of a similar Bill in another place, he Donetshire to state, that notwithstanding they hail received the
could not see the advantage of passing this mtilrenz in pont, (for it greatest provocation, he could not conceive raw men, in the dis-
wa.s the smallest Bill he had ever seen). The subject had been un. charge of their public duty, could have conducted themselves with
der consideration for five months, and still Gentlemen could not more ferbearance,discretion, and firnineas. Mr. Cathie complained
make up their minds upon it. Poaching was certainly an evil, and of the restrictions imposed upon hint ; but, when the House heard
a very great one t but by permitting poachers to sell game, the that it was his constant object to corrupt every person in the prison
evil would not be de rased for then he would be allowed to sell with whom he could have intercourse, they would perceive that the
what he never bought. If this Bill were passed it would take away Magistrates wire bound to take care that Garble should not Dona.,
the great solace and comfort of his life, for he did not mutate the other prisoners. As to any personal restraint lie night
think he should be enabled to find a single partridge in a short have suffered, Carlile had sent hint (Mr. Peel) a distinct written
time after the operation of this Bill commenced. Ile could see no notice, that after a certain day he should consider his imprisonment
advantage in passing this measure on the I lth June, 1824, when es illegal, and he should feel himself justified in murdering the first 1
other persons had told them that, after five months' consideration, keeper that approached him. Under these circumstances, from a
they could not make up their minds on the subject. regard to the safety of the persons about the gaol, and from a regard
Lord DACRE rose, under great diffidence, to eupport the Bill, to the safety of Mr. Cathie himself, he (Mr. Peel) had told the
after what had been said by the Noble and beamed Lord on the Magistrates that they would be justified in taking every precaution 1
Woolsack ; but he could not avoid doing so when he reflected that to prevent mischief. Upon the whole, no man had been treated
between two and three thousand persons were committed to prison with more indulgence than Carlile, considering that his conduct hod
every year under the present system ; but he thought the ISill of been so outrageous and violent.
the Noble lord would not answer the purpose he had in view from The petition was then brought up and read. It professed to be
its introduction, as it would not, he feared, excite a proper feeling from Richard Carlile, now confined in Dorchester gaol, for pub.
in the lower orders on the subject which it was so desirable to e - balling philosophical works, and complained that he was still kept a
rect. Ile hoped that his Noble Friend would introduce a measure prisons r for the payment of his fine, while much of his property M-
in the next Session of a more extended nature. mained unsold in the hands of the late Sheriffs of London.
Lord CA LT II ORPE supported the Bill. Mr. Secretary PEEL rose again to state that Mary Ann Cathie,
The Duke of RICH MON D opposed the Bill. the sister a the petitioner, had lately received a free pardon, ‘nd been
The Marquis of SALISBURY said, that if the Bill were not diichamea from gaol.
greatly altered in another stage, he would oppose it. Mr. nuME said he would not attempt to justify the conduct of
The Earl of CABNARVON strongly supported the Bill, Cable, which he considered to be generally very eccentric, and in
for he thought the present system of the Game Laws had a the particular instance to which the Right lion. Secretary had
strong tendency to demo;alise the character of the lower orders of alluded, violent. The question he wished to raise was, how far
the people ; but in consequence of what took place in another Cathie was now detained by the act of the law itself, which had
House, he suggested the propriety of postponing the consideration taken from hint books of much greater value than the amount of
of the question until the next Session, when itcould be brought for- the fine ? lie moved that the petition be printed.
ward with more effect. Mr. W. S3ll Tli considered that the petitioner's ease involved a
After a few remark. from Earl GROSVENOR in reply, the Bill question of great importance, namely, whether, when the inca-
was negatived without a division. pacity of a prisoner was manifest, he ought to be detained, perhaps
WELSH JUDICATURE BILL. in perpetual imprisonment.
Lord KEN YON moved that the Welch Judicature Bill be .11 r. PEEIr said the question was not in any ewe whe.
committed. titer perpetual imprisonment should take place, but entirely one of
lord CAWDOR opposed their Lordships going into a Com- discretion with the Crown. Not a day passed over but cases of this
mittee. description occurred. Ile was in the constant habit of advising the
Lord REDESDALE was in favour of the Bill. discharge of prisoners who were unable to pay their fines. But
By Mr. STANLEY, After a few words from Lord KEN YON, nothing was clearer titan that sonic considerable time should elapse
At his Rooms, Maddox-area, Hanover-square, TIIIS DAY, The Earl of LIVERI(X)I, said that he hoped the further before the discharge was granted, or no fine would ever be paid.
at 12, consideration of the measure would be postponed until the ensuing Mn. II C3IE said the question he wished to raise was that stated
QIN Magnificent and exquisitely fine CARVINGS in week. by his lion. Friend the Member for Norwich.
"3 WOOD, by the celebrated Brunoloni • with a select number The Marquis of BUTE opposed the Bill. • Mr. PORT3LIN objected to the printing of a petition which
of ITALIAN PICTURES, by Pieria) del Waga, Titian, thin. Lord KENVON consented to propose the consideration of the contained charges of excessive crueltynagainst(li
i the persons employed
gione, Julio Romano, Guido, l(ronzinn, and others of eminence : question until Monday. In keeping Cathie in safe custody. e. r. ortman) ch ai len„
td
ADO capital specimens of Flemish and Dutch Masters. particularly THE STAFFORD ATTAINDER REVERSAL BILL, ftc. the
Hon.lilember to name one person against whccu this charge
a Jew Roblin by Rembrandt 'andscapes by linbhima, Ruys- The rep be ort of the Committee of Privileges, to which the Bills re- could justly brought. ( lfear , hear.)
dna!, Vernet, Both, Swseevel , "L. specting the Stafford and the otber Peerages, which it was proposed Mr. 1IU.III. said, If

eulpite any individual, he would not press the =dm for printing
the petition.
The petition was therefore merely ordered to lie MI the table.
BREACH OF PRIVILEGE--ASSAULT UPON
al It. B ROUG II A 31.
The SPEAKER then said he should take that opportunity, the
House being full, to call their attention to an occurrence deeply
involving the privileges of the House. Shortly after be had takes
the chair, a Member had, in the lobby or precincts of the House,
been grossly assaulted by an individual standing there. He (the
Speaker), on the occurrence being communicated to him, had di-
rected the Sergeant-at-Arne to take the individual into custody,
and he was then writing the pleasure of the House. The name of
this individual, be understood, was Gourley, and the Member as-
' 'suited was the Honourable alember for Winchelsea. He would
then, if it was their pleasure, take the opinion of the House, as to
the course to be pupped.
, Mr. BROUGHAM stated that when he was that evening moo-
ing the lobby, about the middle, as he was walking through the
crowd, he heard some one asking who the Members nem as they
11 Wee pusing by, Immediately after he felt hi struck by
something, a small switek as it afterwards appeared, and a voice
noestmanying the blow. He turned round and saw a man
hid by the persons surrounding him. The man said his name
WIN Gouriay, and he (Mr. Brougham) recognised his features, and
simisnibmod that he had seen him several times about three years
me. Ile asked Gourley what was the matter? He replied in-
thistly, in a hurried manner, " You have betrayed me." He
(Me Brougham) recollected that when he had last been this person
It was nasperting a petition which he had presented on his behalf.
Since that period, now three years ago, he had had no commodes-
don with him, either personally or by oorreepondence. lie be-
lieved that at that time Goselay ksel mentioned to him that he was
occasionally deranged is his woad. He bed had no other commu-
nisation with bias, excepting what moss out of thekatation of
ei=rition, and he was really unmet to what y could '
y allude. His' Ifonesuable and Galktht (Sir R.
Feem-eisot we believe) had grid him that when in better circom.
r. Gout* lad beam& ray theremblo ohoroctet end
ils' 17(111r. Broughams was not mistaken,it was mentiotied by
Gourley, either in his petition, or in the course of CODVeralleioo,
that his distresses had been so great, that they bad had some effect
upon his mind. Under these artainistanees, he should (Mum ' --• "ewer .. negro -as asked.—
from taking any further step in the sale. .ould you send a message by a negro ? and he also .inswelvd, mr-
Air. sieretaiy PEEL sag mot he hod a short titti„utwi tw. Minty not. Now let the House mark, that Mr. Yargootten wet
the attorney of the WM. of Reaouverair 3 he hail managed it foe*
ceived &letter from Gourley, detsiline circumstances of so esti".
ordinary a „toe; that it era his (ityt. Pews) impeemi„, on per- yearsthoroughly acquainted with the character and coei..
of the negraes, and surely he roust be allowed to be the
rasing it, that DO person in his sound senses could have written Peter.e7
omt judge of the value to be set on a negmes testimony. (Hot,
such a letter. Certainly no outrage could be more=han that
committed upon tit. Honourable and Learned ties hear.) With these prelimittartm in our mew, let us see what aka
only witness against Mr. Smith has Sant. At folio If of thiiard:
Mr. HUME suited. that Mr.Gourlae had been sent from Canada
dence, the House will And. and here' I mut regret the ncitheity
in a state of mental deringentent. He believed, he had preaented
of referring to a dull detail, but I feel that juance could sotto
two or three petitions from him on the subject of the poor laws, re.
done without entering into an examination of the evidence. (Hear.
I do not wish to make a speech to catch the feelings of the
*Pectin; which he entertained some sinoular opinions, sod to
verify teem he had ugually gone down into Wiltshire, where he Sear.)
House. I wish to say nothing ad eaptarrdaia, but 'to sheer, from
had rented a bum of three or four hundred acres, in order to break
the evidence adduced against Mr. Smith, how falsely he was
flints on the road m a pauper, and live on the parish allowance. He
had afterwards become sane, and having intimated his wish to recharged, tried, end found guilty (Heer. hear.) In page 14 the
turn to Amerie=alr. Hume) and some other Gentlemen, bad
House will find this evidence given by Bristol.
as him to to Canada. Tee (LI, ego he had received Emanuel told Quamits he bad better &mood ask Mr. Smith
a letter from him, and be now bad reason to believe that Mr. about it, and when o.loEntne was going InWilii. Smith's house, 1
went in with him ; and when we went, QOinina asked Mr. Smith
Gourley was tooter the influence of mental derangement. When
sane he was a very sensible man. but that there was a good IBw come out, but there was no felatte
if any freedom had came out for them to a-Pe.per. He tpld him co
Mr. C. W. WY NN said, before floorlay was suffered to go out
of the custody of the Sergeant-at. Arms, it would be nectesary .hat efme out for them- no midi `I en must weft a little. and tie
some friends amid take awe of biro, and prevent the rePetitiou of vernal. or your piasters will tell you about it.' Quiunina Sion
the offence he had that evening committed. Jack and Joseph were speaking very much about it I he mid,
Vat* and Joseph) wanted to take it by force. Mr.
Mr. Secretary CANNING understood that when an individual
o rier do
t
was in custody for a breach of privilege, the ordinary course of pm-
You had better tell diem to wait, t :I not to be foolish.
ceeding was to hear bim at the tsar of the House before they came You mean that they should take it by force ? They comae de
thing with the white people, because the soldier will be
But if the offender strong than you ; therefore you had better watt.' He to a decision upon. his ore. Here there could be no doubt that a
gross breach of privilege had been committed.
. he could cot with woven, be ex. you had better gel and tell the people, and Christians
was labouring under insanity, that they had better have nothing to do with it.' And Mine: nth
hibited at the bar. Perhaps the better course would be to Lave this
came out. And then I saw a man belonging to Ylailasess d'
name Or
individual in custody till a future day, and probably such informs came
of Washington, remaining at the church ; I'realloil
tion might be obtained in the mean tone as would make the House
money my poeket. 1 told him I had two bitts. Be mid
would not besupposed t
determine what promeditencre should be adopted with respect to Quamina began to speak to him, and asked roe if I hid Ithe
this individual. He ho that in suggesting& moment's delay, it
and' lat it arose front any indifference either ea mane .in
Then (gni? him the two bits) run uas p ;
Ma. Smith wants to itholdm. OM WIN
him oeyop
to the nature of the offence, or the necessity of punishing or Fe. call down Jose
venting it. home. and I t01d..3 annel that we had been to see Mr. &MM. m 4
Mr. BROUGHAM said he had no doubt that Gourley was he said that there l'all no freedom In the We* for us, and that on
must tell all the people lo ; I told him that we had sent to call Jo-
labouring tinder dttingtOtellt of Wad, ea what was tantamount to
FT nuel told an Stet Mr. Smith had told them sot to have any it, as he (Mr. ii ) had wow bid soy transaction with him Kph ahead/. A little wit&.after Jack and Puis came up. Ma-
llet the presensir,pg deit gelid= be bad before mentioned. , .
ing them so before during tbe week. jack and Paris said. ' Well. Mr. CA NXING seadosted, that the further consideration thing to do with the business, and that he (Manuel) had been tell
a the question abonld be till Monday, when his friends
do you having nothing to do with ft, you are cowards.' When Mr.
mould be able to ',certain is condition of mind. He (Mr.
Canning) wished ettlylo defer the further proceedings. South observed-to Quamina that the soldiers would be too thrum
The SPEAKER then said, that he understood that the pleasure for them, he said they would drive all the white people, and Mike
of the House was, that the individual then being in custody should them go to „town. Quamina said the reeod was. the soldiers would.
stand committed, till it was the pleasure of the House to take not tome, and rtnda Save within tO do with it. This last abet;
farther proceedings with respect to him. , the slithers not mail Erna, said ilia Quaniinamme out from 111.
Smith. The revolt at Success. I know QUatlntla• of Mk-
ABOLITION OF SLAVERY.
Sir J. MACKINTOSH presented a petition front Knaves- cesa ; he was engaged that revolt. became. I hard, they meth
him up before the revolt began. Jack and Paris west the loidelfti
borough, Prating that Cloveloaest would adhere to their Fledge, of the revolt ; they said they would go on with it, and then didx
for the gradual abolition ef alavery.—Ordered to be printed. The plan before the revolt broke out was to drive ate white l
ADJOURNED DEBATE RESPECTING THE LATE to town, as I stated before. I was not at
" MISSIONARY SMITIf. nrlddle-path ; I was not Atte aka' .
Dr. LUSHINGTON then moved the Order of the Iney for re- Smith with Quamina ; I =de straight
ty7l:rtnhe chapel MAL
suming the adjourned debate on the address respecting the proceeds Smith's holm, 4 week before this revolt aut. I heard
lags
-
ings against the late missionary Smith.' mino tell the nemesis that ibey ow to lee' their toots, and
The Order of the Day was then read. not work." .
Dr. LUSH] NGTON tole.—Never, Sir, in thccourse of my public 'Now let us tee if there nee wag ewe& about the soldiers briti
life, did I feel there was an occasion,on which I was called upon to ad- too strong for the negroes. If Mr. Smith saM ea, I admit blot to
dress a public meeting, when I considered myself more imperatire- have been guilty. But in Bristol's cross-examination what doll he
ly bound to discharge a public duty with more tenacious fidelity say ? Why, this :'‘ Let us drive all the menaoen.to the male i"
than on this evening. I am anxious, in every observation I may which is totally at variance with his direct examination. Quenalla
make for vindicating the character of the late 31r. Smith-1 am is said to have been alone with Ur. Smith at the rime of the alleged
anxious, I say, Sir, while discharging this public duty, not to say guilty conversotion i bitt, in page sal, what does enothg negro
one word unjustly of age of the parties concerned in this fatal and witness, Seeton, say ?
melanchoiy transaction. Undoubtedlt
was it is my duty to notice the ..Whilst you ware resort with owing= and Mr. Reim, did
Military Court Martial by which Ar. Smith tried, and that you hear any = em?—''ea
between ai ?—Yes.
notice must be applied more pardeu 1y hi one of its members, the Will you state it?—Quamina went there to Mr. Smith, sad
Judge Advocate; but the whole of my observations will be founded asked him about this paper ; Mr. Smith said yes ; that the
gaper
on the testimony they have offered agAinst themselves, and without is come out—ti at the paper had come out so far as to break the
drawing any information whatever from any extraneous source. In drivers ; and that nobody should be licked any more again ; and
older to prove the injustice of the Court Martikl, I shell not rely on that if any body should ;be licked it would be by their masters, or
the COPY of the proceedings furnished by the 'Missionary Society. their managers; and if any thing more than that they were to be
No ; I shall rely solely and exclusively on the copy famished by the confined. After I hail hien' that, Quemins told me to go away
Govemnomt here, and on those documents and instructions ad- to the Middle Walk of Success, to stop the people till he came,
mitted to form the proper basis of our discussion and examination. and I went with Manuel to stop them.
The House should know, in the first instance, the principles cep- " Was there any thing said about freedom having come out
plicable to the consideration of this great and important question. from England for the negroes?—Nor
Ido not, however, mean to discuss whether the proceeding. insti. " How long was it after you got to Success Middle Walk, Were
toted against Mr. Smith were legal or not legal. I claim for Mr. Quamina came there ?—About ri quarter of an hour.
Smith the most perfect innocence, both legally and morally ; and •• Did Quamina tell you, in the hearing of Mr. Smith, to go to
I shall satisfy the House that, whether the law by which he was Success Middle Walk ?—Quamina and myself were in the gal.
tried were right or not--that he stands before any tribunal unim- It-y, and Mr. Smith in the Hall ; I cannot say if Mr. Smith
peached and unimpeachable. The same rules, however, do not heard.
apply to the conduct of a Court Martial : they were, however. Here is a direct contradiction of Qnamina'a being alone at lir.
bound to adhere to the rules of law, to act upon the principles of Smith's house; and the House will further and. in the same pip,
justice. But I shall prove they violated the law, and disregarded that the alleged report of the conversation could not be a the re-
every principle of justice. In my view of the quuttion, whether port of what Air. Smith said. It might perhaps bane gore to the
the concealment of the revolt charged against Air. Smith was or same purport, but the esact words are now the object tel be looked
was not high treason according to the laws of Demerara, I'll take it to. The fact is, the witness only gave his version of the convere-
that such a concealment is high treason ; anti I'll take it that if each rtion, and I say that no lititozn being could escape punishment.
an offence were committed, that the punishment of death attached it such vrrsions were to be received as evidence, anti such eri.
to it. But then, there are certain essindal facts, and these facts d nee to be the foundation of a capital charge. What is the next
are agreed upon, which the House must bear in mind, in order to contradiction? There is rot one syllable said of the negroes tab.
he thoroughly acquainted with this subject. and thereby citable ing freedom by force; not a single letter about the soldiers; Ord
them to form a just judgment. In the month of May, Governor 1 how could any idea of an intended revolt have occurred to the mind
Murray issued a Circular, ordering new regulations relative to the at- of Mr. Smith, growing out of such a conversation ? I pray the
tendanceofpublic worship by theidaves.(hi 7th July Lord Baihurst's (louse to observe the word "soldiers." and I ask, (toes any
letter arrived, stating thebenevolent intentions of Government to bet. man think, if such a weed were used, that the newer, would arta
ter the condition of the slaves. The House knew that lard Bathurst's of them forget the terror which die employment of soldiers would
letter directed their condition to be improved its much as pmaible; produce? This witness for the prosecution, speaking of the very
it prohibited the locking together of females, It prohibited the use same conversation with air. Smith, totally contradicted the evidence
of the whip in the fields, and it directed other alterations for me- given by Bristol. New, here are the only two witnmem fee the
liorating their situation. On the Illth of August, in the evening, propecuuon contradicting each other, the latter of whom never
the revolt first breaks nut; on the gat of August Mr. Smith is deposed to a single syllable as to the alleged concealment by Mr.
taken up anti imprisoned; and on die 13th of October he is tried. Smith. Not another witness was produced—not a single white
It is unnecessary to notice those charges of which he was acquitted, man. hearsay evidence, at second and third hand, is all that can
but not so with the principal charges of which he was found guilty ; be sworn to against Mr. Smith ; and it is upon this contradictory
and these charges were for creating dismount among the negroes, testimony of two negroes that air. Smith is capitally convicxed.
for concealing the revolt, and for having corresponded with the (Hear, hear.) Other witnesses gave different versions of this same
rebel negroes after the revolt. Of these charges 31r. Smith was conversation. There were no less than four different versions of
found guilty by the court-martial. Much has bto asidby my Bight it. ( Hear, hear.) Before I quit the subject of Bristol's evidence.,
lion. Friend, the Under Secretary of State for the Foreign Depart- I beg the flame to see how he deposes to the affair of the 17th 9(•
mem, with respect to the general conduct of Mr. Smith, and it is August.
impossible for me to avoid making sonic observations on what •• Was thereany thing mid abautatemanagers?—Yes; Quamina
fell from him the other evening. Now, in the first place. the said they was going to drive the managers all away to town ; Mr.
courtmumial did not find 11 r. Smith guilty of wilfully Smith said they would not go ; and said, • you had best not do
exciting revolt. The most important accusations against Mr. that, because if you do the soldiers will come and drive you beck
Smith arose out of the adbirs of the Tith August, the day before agsin ; you had bad tell the people rot to do so; they are not able
the revolt began. Now, data were here very important to be ob- to go against them to fight then' ; Quamina went out, and 1 fol.
served. The 17th of August was on a Sunday; during the pre- lowed him.
ceding week, Mt. Smith was not at the Souvenir plantation, but " Did Mr. Smith say nothing else?--f don't remember that ho
on the west coast, with Mr. Elliott, a brother Missionary ; he ass said any thing else.
not therefore present, and did not know the dispositions of the ne- " Did Quamina tell Mr. Smith of his awn Ittird, or did Mr.
groes. On Sunday, the 17th, an interview took place between 31r. Smith :wit him any questions?—Quamina told him of his can Sc.
Smith and certain todividuals of his congregation ,• and at this in- cord ; Mr. Smith did not ark him.
terview it was alleged, that Mr. Smith received information of this " Were there any preparation,' made for :he war by the people,
intended revolt; that he was apprized of this threatened rebellion, before you and (bulimia went to Ala Smith ?—No ; I don t know
and yet that he maintained a guilty silence shout it, and never in. of may.
formed the Authorities of what was Intended. I admit, Sir, that " Had the people no guro, or powder, or shot provided ?—I did
if any thing transpired at this interview which could give Mr. not see so.
Smith such knowledge—theif he after kept his pace—then, I will " Did ljnamina tell Mr. Smith by what means they intended to
admit, he was guilty of the offence charged against him, and, on drive the white people to town ?—No; he did not.
full and sufficient proof, devervod to be condemned. And here I " Did Quawina say for what purpose they were to be driven to
implore the attention of the lluuse—l implore the attention of town ?—No ; no furater than I said before,
every Hon. Member about to give his vote, to theevidence adduced ' mina had said their freedom had come out.
on the trial for such a crime--I request that every Hon. Gentle- •• laid he, (jasmine, say alien the white people
man, before he acquits, will examine the whole of the case, and to town ?—No.
hear the vindication of Mr. Smith beftwe he condemns him--I " Did you hear all the ronvermilan that
hope that every Hon. Gentleman mill pay such attention to the mina a:ld Air. Smith at that time ?-Yes.
whole of the transaction, as will jadfy their consciences in the " Will you state all that Mr. Smith said,
votes which they may give. I court inquiry-1 court the most said ?—I ally heard what I have already stated,
rigid examination of the evidenin; anti I hope my Learned collect.
Friends at the other side will 'Sat be sparing of producing `• Did you and Quamina tell Mr. Smith, ti
those passages in the evidence, which they may think calcu- pose to tell bins about Jack and Joseph, and s
laced to show 31r. Smith to be guilty. On the first charge, ?o ?—Yes t q..mine told hire that he came
my Ilenourabls and Learned Friend, the Member ftie Peter, Cause ilea and Joseph Were speaking very on

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