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BREVET.
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Preemelint le the Army, spas Wog appelffilled .env in
metier the Ceoutead Liamilmaat-General
To be SUjors,
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Captain Ilewry lisrillog, from the 37th Coop.
Captain Haw... Le Mrouser, from t►e tint Foot.
Capt Keatiop Nochi,from the 4th florrioo• Illottaboo.
Capt."' George Md., from the 9stb Foot.

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mired from Has Majesty's &hire.
Erratum in The Gazette of the iSth instant.
For Major Grose& the Hooserabk Was Pagett to be Lieu-
tenant General is Portugal;
Read Mahe-General the ilosouratie nfivard Paget to bs
Lieutentant•Geoeral in Portii:e'.
CeNIMIMIMPRS signet 4 the bit, Lieuteoolt of the Cowrie of
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and Lewes—dated April t, Isiv
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occurred tta him, as they rose out of the papers
already submitted to their Lordships consider:to:in;
after a great deal had been alleged by the Noble
Secretary respivting the letters of Mr! Frere being
• private, and that alma produced they nottld prove
not notion/int. On the contrary, now they were
produced, its his op' of all other papero ou the
table they were the most important ; and he could
not see •.1 tutu the deumninittion attached to them
by Noble Lords oppoeitte of their iseiag letters of
a private nature. ?hey had certainly exhibited,
Wry extraordinary &naiad in slur Minister at Ma—
drid, wholead written intro eery peculiar terms to:
Sir John Moore, whereby that illustrious (ienerall
was involuntarily intineed to march further than.
Salinitanca, end littfortunatily for his couutiT, cif-'
terwards lost Li, life. lie felt it certainly au in-
vidious tusk to impute improper conduct to any its-
divislttal, but such had bleu that of r..Frere ;he
thought.the House would he ttiarstinv; in their duty,
if th'ey slid not speed& Move an Adtleees to
hlejesty for the immediate recal of that Nlinicter ;
it wee a ditty they owed to the memory of the it 'ls-
elin's:sand gallant officer Sir John ‘‘.bore. Ile con-
ceived it incumbent to bring the particular subject
very swot under the consideration of the House.—
With regard to these letters also, their importance
was such as to remove every blame contrived to be
attached to the contbict of that lamented Corn-
mender, and clearly to thew it eau to Le imputed
wholly tu auother quarter.
The Earl of lava:strum. raid, he wished to be
clearly tin lerstoed with respect tb what he had
%hoed on a fanner occasion. It would be in their
Lordships recollection he had not asserted the let-
ter' refentul to were of no importance, he inerely•
'teed, they would be timud tint ninteri„i; with
respect to Sir John Moore% further march from
Salamanca, true it was, lie emertuined an opinion
that Sir John Moore had .eted wustly under all
circumstance,, in proceeding further at the time,
but he wit, still lists-ed to dilTer from Noble
Lords oppo,:te that Sir Moore was not led to do
so by any letter sent to biro from Mr. Frere. When
lie had also described the letters to be private, lie
hal defiuesi in what way he meant 10 use that ex-
pression. He merely applied that word to the form
in which they were received, and not•to the sub-
ject matter of their contents. He thought it pro-
per to rise for the purpose of giving thin explana-
tion, but he was not disposed to be drawn into any
collateral discussion on this question, as next Fri-
day the whole of it would come before the House,
the Noble Earl's (Grey) motion.
Earl (lacy was surprised how any one could
peruse the letters tell reed te, and the istisoers of
Sir John Moore, and maintain that he hail not
been driven aguinst his own inclination to march
further than Silittillallea. If he recollected Correct-
)), what had been tooted by the Noble Secretary,
respecting the letters being of a private nature, he
celestially understood him to have expa-esad himself
differently at the time. He was sorry Noble Lords
on that side of the House had been Intl to suppose
the objection t. their being produced, retted upon
their contents bring of a private nature. There
could now, however, be no doubt the fatal eveut •
of the catupaigo in Stalin, wail iu consequence of
the inter£ rence of Mr. Frere with the conduet of
Sir John Moore.
The Earl of CARYSTORT, after having adverted
to the !rapers on the table, inciitioned his having.
been afe.ent fur a ant of health—and therefore he
did not distinctly know whether any :notion haul
been mule, similar to the nee he intended to pro-
pose. He now gave notice he. should to-morrow
move for a copy of all instruetions sent from Ills
Majesty's Government to Mr. Frere ; for it was
of great importance tosser:rutin tbe powers possess-
. ad by Mr. Frere, which anthonsed him to controul
the conduct of a Coininauder. It was also men-
tioned, a particular person was the bearer of a
message to Seleinaucts, yet his name was kept se-
cret, and was oinittl, by a blank in the printed
paper. He could- not conceive why this person
should not be named--but he would, to-morrow,
suttee, lodes. he was previously i.ifurined, that it
should Ire :bream:eel to the l louse.
The Earl of Llvelteoot. could assure the Noble
Lord, that no instructions were sent, whisai au-
thnosed Mr. Frere to cositroul the conduct of our
military commender. • The commouicaf which
took phase, was merely cole,e(iutAiL on our Minister
being the political agent of the directions 'given-by
the Government of that country. With respect to
the name of the person, Noble Lords would coupe-
der it might lie attended with iucouveitience and in-
jury. if NI Misters were under the necessity of dis-
ci:vane the names of persous officially etnpinyed ;
and for that reason he did not feel warraiited in
naming the person alluded to.
Earl GrtLY did not believe the Noble Earl
(Carysfort) would be successful in the first part of
his :notion. • after he himself had said :as Much re-
lative to the instructious sent to Mr. Freer:
After all the papers which had been laid cm the
Table, there wits so much information kept truck,
be declared it was not possible for the House to m-
elee at a correct jartgruent on the whole of the pro-
ceeding«. There could be no inconvenience ree
suiting from mentio ling this persou's name, for it
was already known it was no ecret, yet it was said.
beesiase it case might be itimuvenient to name a
per tem' ar person, the information was refused; such
inllginigt: was 11116000MIllg a Secretary of State.
Lord AUCKLAND observed, it wits knows' who
the person alluded to was: he should abstain from
saying his name. but it might be very material
melee all the eirrum.tences to know who. be was.
whether a person sent from this country and attach-
. ed to Mr. Frcre's amts. or a person employed there,
and whether he were a native of that couetry or a
Freuch Officer.
. TREATY MTN SPAIN.
ViseottotStDl4ol.lll inquired if say motion would
be made oe the Treaty which had been laid un the
table I:v Ira Hajerty'o Ministers.
Tlet*Earl of lavaavuot uliswered no ttlOtinti
wes intended. browse it ass not usual sir precedent-- •
ed unless the Treaty were attended by a message,
but this was not theseaw with the present Treaty.
PAULETT'S DIVORCE BILL.
Counsel were culled to the Bar, and shortly stat-
ed the purport of the evidence they haul to adduce.
its proof of the act ci adultery.
• Witnesses were then called. and proceeded to
state the circumstances, when the LordaChancellor
observed, it would be requisite to postpone the fur.
titer proceedings till Thursdayr-Adjourned.

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747.

HOVSC OF COMAONS.

On tie Motion of Me lIASTARD, the Bill far regotating
• die ter& troaerrottir, 80-tartly was I Cad a seamed time, mid
*red to he a animal 1•41 on Frklity oust.
Ttet:s.r. nut an v at Wan named, " that the letter of
Stir. era to the Savietary at Wm, oltieh had beat presented
aide Mouse, might be withdrawn fo. the purpose <decli-
ne:hag I,oole Irr,4l,llllity -v-.4treeil to.
person Avon the l'llutip.ollire presented an account of
the incidental Merin./ of the Stamp 0111.-e is Eagiauil and
I Scotland, from the year lees, to the vear I aII9, hang the
%fest period to which the woe tau he made out.--.otelered
to hens the table.
The paper presented to the House un OW 101 of April,
relative to fir piker tokens awl the topper cora to 'reload,
were ordered to be trrinted.
On tbe sleben of Mr. CIitOICKR, the second ceding of the
Irish Militia Completion Bill was postprap I to Fri hy mart.
Mr. WMITIIIREAD presented a Petsturt against the re-
nerd of Susitkfield Market. Ordered to lie ou the table.
Mr. PAWN ELL muisd, that the daimon prenoted to the
Home misfire to the Inlaid Nov.glithoi of Ireland L. parri-
ed Ordered.
Mr. War Talte.• n moved, that the Papers prenatal this
day from the %mop tither be pristrd. or.teeti
A Messier Gout the House of Lord, nunatioeed, that their
Lordships had cereal to the !loser seal Portsmouth Com-
pensation Diks, and several private Bills.
Mr. Rost .3.1 lon the printing of certain •
papers prese.asted to the I Liege on Friday laet, rela-
tive to our trade with Aim rice. •In doing this, lie
took °evasion to observe, that frota there papers it
would appear that oar exports to America had in.
t:reoval metre the year Par, olthough many had
anticipated that than Order. in Cosiest would he
the total destruction of our trade; to quirt their
fears, it wa., itereseary to stele .that more than SO
AM' Ind left this cauntry iii lAtin than in 1807,
making au increase its tonnage of uo less that.
UB,OOO tons.
Mr. Pettit Moose mit", lee knew not what the
Right 'I loii.(;eutleuein meant by making this kiwi
of htateinent. lie had!), fore i(iven his opinion upon
the direct of the Orders. in (,orated OM our manu-
factories, and repented that the weavers were ruined
fur want of trade.
• Mr. ROM: replied, that the moms hc, had quoted
• had been Oil the ;able stneefralav, and were there-
fume open to the inspectiou and observation of eve-
ry our.
Mr. Pont Moose observed, that in emote-
queuee of the exportation of silk manufacture
being stopped, the silk weavers of Coventry Wiese
tactually starving.
The papers were then ordered to be printed.
RAIITHFIELD MARKET.

Sir Cusitics Phlca moved the order of the day
for the second reading of the Bill, for the removal
of Smithfield Marks t.

Mr. Alderman Conue rose to oppose the Bill,
although his of jections had been iu a great degree
removed, by the jurisdictiou of the city being ex-
tended to the new market. Still, however, he felt
it•his duty to oppose the farther progress of the
Bill, as the inhabitants of Smithfield sad its vici-
nity were against the removal, it bring prejudicial
to their interests ; mid because the inhabitants of
the neittlibiandroisd where it was to be removed to,
felt that it would equally hurt the:d. He conclud-
ed by move% that the Bill should be reed a second
time this day six months.
Mr. ilanaw MARTIN opposed the Hill. Ile
conceived. were it allowed to pass, that it would be
a great injury to the charity of the Foundling Hos-
pital. as well um to the peewees pneseseing estates iu
that neighleeirhood. The streets were genteel.
clean, cud quiet, and the value of bases bud great-
ly increased. If this ineasore were carried. it
would change the character of the place, and hoes.,
would sink, instead of risiug in value. The injury
it would be to iudividieds was immense. Oue
lady alone, (Mrs. Doughty) possessed from 110 to
140 houses in the neighbourhood. the leases of
which would expire in the year 1811. when she
would be greatly enriched ; but if thin bill passed,
it was very likely the houses might reinniii empty;
so that is this individual Moue, the lose would
ainniait to several thousand poundi. •
Mr. Host seed, that a necessity rebated for the
removal of tht market was beyond all doubt.—
There was not sufficient spice to transact the busi-
ness. This was felt whelythere were but 100,000
hoists brought runually into the market, the num-
ber now amounted to 150,000 ; the conseqiience
was, that the cattle became injured by their tramp-
ling rni each other, and the buyers were unable to
view them. When the City decided to enlarge the
market, they found it impossible to increase it
more theta two acres; it at present occupies a
space of 41 acres, and • they wish to make it I'2.
It was necessity which induced them to wish for
its remoi al, ms it was quite contrary to their inte-
rest. Although the place they had pitched upon
might he objectionable, still there were two other
plates whiclecould not be so. • He thought there
WAS a degree of severity in getting rid of the Bill
this way towards the city, which they did not merit,
mid expressed his anxiety that the Bill might be
read a second time, and allowed to go to a Coin.
mittee, 'there all objections might be Answered.
1 Mr. Howie* wished to state a single fact, that
the City had already contracted for this objection-
able spot of grouted. His whole objection to the
Dill went to the !date proposed.
Mr. Lireirros expressed himself evilest the
further progress of the Bill.
Sir Coots! Mace supported the Bill. He
spoke in so low a lone of voice, that we Were only
able to collect, that the city acre anxious to ea.
large the mnrkrt rather than remove it, and urged
the necessity of the Buil being allowed to go to a
Committee.
Mr. C. Ileecateson objected to its being al-
lowed to go to a Committee. He feared, if it were
eft to the decision of a Committee, that the spot
xed upon would be chosen. He was at a lose to
know why they should pitch upon this particular
place, which was so particularly objectionable.
Mr. ROC: said, that the City of London had
abandoned the spot they had first fixed aeon, and
hail iliotructed their Counsel tip that effect.
Mr. l'ossoNLY said, that when the City of Lon-
don expressed their wish to improve and beautify
the metropolis, he felt a great desire to forward
their views ; but he hoped tiny would nut attempt
such Improvement at the expense 'if private pro-
perty. He was willing •to accede to the second
reading of tire bill, lint would not pled.ze himself
to approve of any place winch the Committee
might adopt.
Mr. Mxttisit objected to the hilt. If the evil
wed oirmiAe4 from one place, it was not unlikely it

might become equally objectionable. A place bail
been named, which would sebously affect the
Gray's lull Society. •
Mr. FULLER thought the City of London should
point out the spot .where they would remove the
market, befeee they had his vote. IJe had no
right to trust them, is they would not trustt him.—
(A laugh.)
Mr. Alderman SHAW spoke at some length in
support of the bill, but in too kw a tone of voice to ,
be dietinefly heard in the gallery.—He thought all
the objections might be done away in the Commit-
tee. A place be, front of Gray.* Inn hail been
chosen, on a declivity particularly well suited for
the purpose, from whence drains could be readily
formed to carry off the dirt into the Fleet river.
Mr. BARHAM said, hit objections went to the way
in which the bill originated. It was introducra
without the parties iuterested having notice of their
intention, and wwau injustice to those individuals.
How wee it to be remedied ? to be changed to
souse other place,• where the people had notice of
it? But then it was said, their itnerests might be
guarded by regututions. He thought it the wisest
course to reject the Dill altogether. The mode lie
conceived fittest for reinoviiig such au annoyance us
this market, would be to appoltit a'Cometittee of
indifferent perions, who might lay down sonic plan,
*tech could have the effect desired. Ile believed
such an annoyauce was tint to be found in the hurt
of soother city io the world.
Mr. WHI THREAD said, that one worthy Alder-
man hail proposed erecting hers, to keep off the
cattle bruin the Foundling hospital; and another
had devise l a inuthud of taking away the stench ;
lint they did not point out the, nay ts., keep off the
stench and noise from the streets ("1/urse6e.
The ATIORNEY.GEN real. said the City officers
should be sent with the cattle, to keep them quiet
(.1 laugh). An Hon. Member hail mentioned the
great improvements which were to berflected by
this change ; maguificent houses were to be erect-
ed close to the market, and tine streets were to be
formed but he 'ribbed to knew whethei they were
intruded for the beasts, as he believed noise ocher
would inhabit them—(4 laugh.). The interest of
the city was stated to he to keep the market whew
lit is, end he should certainly app its removal.—
The Bill ought tee be rejected Gum the loarthen it
would impose on the inhabitants where they would
remove it. The reasons urged for sending it to u
Committee were those which convinced him it
ought not to go, as it left a chance of others ap-
proviug what he might particularly wish to con-
demn. The measure itself was extremely oppress-
ive, as it went to injure a number of persons with-
out rimy notice, who could have no appeal, and to
remove the mai Let to the destruction of some of the
best lions:a to the metropolis.
The question being loudly called for, the gallery
was cleared, but we understand the Bill was with-
, drawn without a division.

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IRISH CURRENCY.
Mr. Paltaat.t. rose to make his promised motion
n the as‘iiiiilatuni of the carreney of Ireland to
that of Great Britain. He said, that one iticonve-
silence attending the difierence of the currencies
was its contributing to maintain a feeling of repa-
ration and distniction between the iiilnaliitalits of
these countries very incousistetat with their mould
prospetityi That it gave the respective parts of the
Uniteillsingdoin a character that belonged rather
to countries foreign to each other, than to members
of the same empire ; a character very inconsistent
with the spirit of real union, and the true interests
of the people. he had always eonsidered the Act
of Union us the must incotoplete measure that
could be framed to meet the ohjsct it had in view,
and time correctness of this opinion was illustruted
by the present state of the currencies. Though he
had opposed that measure because it was thought
its repeal would be essential to the pieservatipu of
the em pi rc, i f the expectations encoaraged by it were
not accomplished ; still, however, he was anxious
that every thing should be done to prosluee an
unanimity in intxrest and in feeling between the two
countries, and for that ressois, -ailionit others, he
was delirous to see this difference of currencies, so
strong an emblem of distinct nations, completely •
done sway. Another inconvenience arising f
it, was the restraint it 'you the commer-
cial intercourse of the too countries—a restraiiit
quite inconsistent with that perfect freedom of
trade, which is always necessary, iu order that
trade may be carried on to the :zresitt-st possible
advanta.,r. For, certainly, this iliikrence of cur-
rencies, circumstanced as Crest Britain and Ire-
land are in regard to melt other, did form an ob-
struction of considerable effect upon the free circu-
lation of the capital, labour, and industry of both
countries. For tho' the operatimi of converting sums
of money of one currency into sums of the other, is a
verysimple clue, and perhaps to those accustomed to
it presents Ito difficulty whatever, still it nevesiuerily
must he to all other persons a source of doubt re-
epecting the result of commercial speculations con-
nected with Ireland; and thus it must contribote to
deter many from cultist-king in enterprises, which
would be highly advantageous to'such a country as
Ireland, so much in need of an adequate capital to
give effect to its natural resonxis. But the prin-
cipal inconvenience that resulted from the present
state of the currencies, was the existence of an ex-
change between the two countries; such a thing
not being known between any two places having a
common circulating medium. Ile should endea-
vour to prove this by reference to facts and good
authorities • and if the getting rid of the exchange
would he die consequence of the assimilation, lie
felt sure that this alone would justify this measure.
Exchauee, was said to be at par between England
and Ireland, when a MI. hill, payable in London,
can be purchased in Dublin for fool. hit. ed. Ex-
cept under very particular circumstances, the ex-
change has been at or nearly at par. In 1804 it
was 9 per cent. against Ireland, and two months
ago it was st per cent. against England. Three
fluctuation* are attended with great divedvantages
to trade, and great loss to those inslirirlissils. who
have occasion to remit money from one country
to the other. He could not approve of the doctrine •
that the remittance, of rents to Irish absentees wets
the rause of the exchange being against Ireland,be-
' cause as these remittances are annual and constant.
if thedoctri-ie was sound, the exchange would al-
ways he against Ireland, which is seldom the case.
That the balance of teete alone affected the ram
of exchange, Was also a doctrine which lie could out

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ateede to. beraose in all calculations of this kind
the ruins of v exported and imported was
omitted ; awl further, because varietions.iii the vas
Our of the currency of either country has a CUIINICkf.
able effete upon exchange. Ile conceived diet the
hest way ot replanting upon what she rates of ex-
change depend, was to say that they depend upiet
the proportion which the hilly eichange in the
market bear to the demand for them ; and that if
it is aueuipted to look for a more radical explawi-
bon the endeavour will altogether fail. All then
that is wanting to settle the rides of exchange at a
fixed stun between the two conutries, is to provide
a due proptirtioti betatteii the supply and demand
of' thetn. But as this is impracticable, then it be-
comes necessary to try to hod out some additioual
means of making reiuittaiices. Now this is disco-
erred in the use of bunk mites.- harder the ipiaiiiy
of being current for die sums they represent in beta/
ossuaries ; for so Form as the bank paper of ouel
place is current in the other place, or Call be you
vernal 'Hite paper that is so corrent,tnen tor West,
of remitting is not roidined to bills of es:eh:toe
only, but compost vif the whole paper current_
If then Batik of England potter was current
Ireland, and Bank of lit land paper couvertil
Lao it at par, any person having oi.cusioo to 1114
a remittance to Loudon, would be aide tc. do
at no other expeuse that, the postaei• el the tette
conveying his notes, a supply at' gre 114titift of mini
dance would alwuts be build eyed to the d
meal for it, and the existialce of au 'cacheti.
would be entir-ly done aa ay. .Ir. Yarnell sad
that it was very easy to illustrate the accuracy •
thisreasoniug, rattan aaaa ig how matters of ti
sort were conducted between London and Lir
pool, between which Places there is it great Ire: -
A person in Liverpool' having ream w it to urn!.
remittance to London, can do so eitiser bs a bill f
exchusige, or by bank paper. equally torrent at '-
verpool and at Loudon, and therchirt• not being I
pentlaut open the quantity of bills of exchan
twit having such paper at his cornmeal, he !a
make his remittance eithotit any loss. And, tl
as the only dithaeutv in the relative eircutastui .6
of Liverpool awl Dublin is, that one has a conuu •11
circulating medium with London, std that e
oteer has not ; is it not equally clear that, i
common medium is estab bslied. the ezchatige a II
cease? The Honourable Member raid he is
aware that the. power of converting Bank of I -
Lind paper into Bank of ENiglaud paper would u t
he a necessary result of the assimilation of the co ,
but that such a power must in some degree depot
upon the cowduct of the proprietors of the Bank
Ireland- Ile could not, however, believe tha ,
when every thing was done that was necessary •
be dune in order to do away the exchange, ext ep
what they had it in their power to do, they wou:
so far oppose the public iuterest as to refuse to
consent to par their notes with Entik of Eitelaild
notes, or in Lilts, payable in Lotman, at certayt
kaad-rates. Lu Scotland, the clattered banks Ind
done away the exchange that used to exist between
Scotland and Eitel:llAL by takaig such steps; and
nd
it appears by the Report of the Committee of' Otto '
How.e, who were appoiuted in 1004 to inv stigma
the stun. id the currency in Ireland, that Clary did
-no without incurring any loss. Besides it still be
10 the interest of the Bank of Ireland to d * every
thing ill their power to de away the ceeleiroge. as
wadi as of the Bank of Enghual ; beetawie. when-
ever the reetrictiou of cash puyments is taken elf;
they will he exposed, as they ever have been, to
constant demands upon them for 61111 N NI to remit
from one country to the ether, as the exvlialige
varies, unless they get rid of it. Had it not been
for the impolitic measure of renewing the Charter
last year to the Bunk of Ireland, the doing away
the exchange might have been uaude sure or,.
OS the Bank would have beets williug to 131 Vs
made the necessary stipulations for effecting it,
sooner tl•an base lust their Charter. As it is, limo.
ever, earn if they should rerwle to pee their
mites with Bank of England notes ; the cum acv
'of the latter may, io a great measure, be obtained
ill Irels itl, by makiiig, them legal trotters, equally,
soil to the same extent with the notesof the Batik
of Ireland. The iminetinite effect of this rtsola-
lion would be the impassibility of IRO exchtmee
untisvourable to England, because uo one would go
to 'Change. and give a premium fur a Bill on Out-
whet) he could get a brook note without a pre-
mium, and thus one-half of the business of doing
eau) the exchange would be effected. But just
ill proportion to the quantity of Batik of England
notes sent to !militia, the means of remitting front
Ireland to Englatid would Le facilitated, anti the
tentleftcy of the exchange to become utifavouniblis
to Ireland lie counteracted; soul, therefore, this
simple regulation, without the aid oldie Bank of
Ireland, would do it vast dent towards abolishing the
exchauge altogether. The waking Bank of Bug-.
land pryer a legal tender in Ireland, could not he
attended with any loss to the partS.• obliged to take
it, because the only case that can happen to make
Bank of England paper of less vulue in Ireland
than Bank of Ireltoid paper,is the exchange beirn;
against England ; but it has been shewn that thi-
can never octet so long as Bunk of Englsud piper
is a legal tender in Ireland. Under these ciscuni-
stances, the Hon. Member said that he felt he was
warranted to infer, that the assimilation of the
currencies, if assisted with a regulation to make
Batik of England paper is legal tender in Ireland.
would completely do away the exchange between
• the two countries. Ile then proceeded to suppert
whit be had said. by several authorities. Primal'
Butler, wkilst Itliiiister for Ireland, in a letter is
Sir Robert Walpole, says, " there is no doubt but
it would be absolutely right to reduce the Englisu
shilling to 112 d." Mr. Burrower,. Mr. Paget, and
Air. Harms') have given it in evidessee before the
Committee alreedy mentioned, that if a eftmlEoll
circulating medinin was established between the
two countries, exchange would not he taken ant at
its regnlrr rouse. This say, in than
Report, that " if it Isbell lie thought expedient to
equalize the currency by mukang shillings roman.
only 12d. your Committer submit the advantag,
of doing so." On the head of Exchange th.
say. what is particularly etrorig in support
the foregoing ream • g, " Your Committee tar
Hot entertain a doubt of the practicability el.
what they recommend (the nutkiog Bank 01
England taper current ill lelsiol) nor. that at
ought to bare the sure effect of redwing es •
change to par. In case of such au mat, t!.e:

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• HOUSE OF COMMONS. might become equally objectionable. A place tail ateede to. hemline in all calculations of this rind
occurred tta him, as they rose out of the papers
• been namcd, which would setiously affect the )he radio of v exported and imported was
• already sitlunitted to their Lordships consideration;
oit gie Motion of llr liAltrAttD, the BIN far regulating Gra .. jut, Society, . omitted ; mud further, because varietions. in the va.
after a great deal had been alleged by the Noble • ase wenneeeroiee De,tarily was teed it sound tolle, and .i ~.
Dr. r utLER thought the City of London should lue of the temerity of either country has a considis.
Secretary- relenting the letters of Mr: Freest being geneert tete rev„,„o,„ on Feeley eest,
i of point out the spot evlierb they would remove the able Mien upon exchange. Ile conceived that the
• private, and that whew produced they would prove ,__Tts,itur Ana at IVAR !iatnctl, " that the letter .
Ili to the Sevretal at "","'lnd' 1144 Lice% Presented market, berme they had lint vote. He had no hest way of replanting upon what she rates of ex.
not important. Oli the contrisry, now they were Illt, re.
the term Hewn might be *Autumn 10. the purpose of cut- ,righttrust ti they • Id t t t bum:l •• that they
to _ tem, II sou no rustchange 1 i petal, was to sit)
produced. in. his op• rlf all other Niters oil ....a...in ..„,,',,.,..:,.„1,,,ity ...4„,,,d to. the proportion which the bill, t I exchange in the
table they were the most important ; soil he could
not ace •.1 oitii the deumninittion attached to them a perm.' nom the stleanedeire preeented an account of , (AilmigAisi•i),.
the incideotslexpeuace or the States' Otre.e i• Enetawl end Mr. i num! SHAW. spoke at some length
.in market beer to the demaisil for them ; and that if
by Noble Lords %spread!, of their hong letter of Scotland, (min the year mos, to the e.ir. I ally, twoi,eert.e support of the lull,
in the
tooii low a tour
H. of vs:lee to , it is shimmied to look for a more radical umlaute-
e thought all nail the cattlemen. will altogether fail. Alt then
Tat et period to which the sum eau lie made out. —Or I tut be dietinefly heard in go ery.
• a private nature. they had Certoluly exhileited
the objections might be done awry in the Commit- that is wanting to settle the rater of exchange tit A
Neely extraordinary &laud in o'nr. Minister it Ma- to lablr.e.'..ted
tie the House ou the loth of April, . •
see. A place en,. front of Gray's Inn hail been fixed sum between the two countries, is to provide
chid, who had written in err very peculiar terms to: relative to the piker tokens awl Ilse copper cow iti Irelatul,
(+mien, cm a declivity particularly well suited for a dime propbrnoii between the supply and demand
Sir Jobn Moore, whereby that illustrious Gentral; wee ordered to be printed.
Oa sbesem,,,, or mr,nsaomen, theseeend westing of the the purpose, from 'silence drains could lie readily of them. But as this is impraetieuble, then it be-
eves involuntarily intlueed to march 'nether tbran:
formed to carry off the.dirtinte the Fleet river. corned necessary to try to tied out wine additioual
Salineanea, tied imfortunately.for his co:tufty. or. track_ Sillitile°mPlvit°" Bill w" I".""P'r Ito t'ri'm mitt.
: Mr. BARHAM Sititi,hes objections went to the way means of making remittatices. Now this is disco-
terwards lost Lie life. lie felt it certainly au is- we WOITOREAD td s Petit:on against star re-
m which the bill originated.. It was introdu.cel erred its the use of bunk raitese haeiiig the quaint
Morn et staithficht Slake. ordered to he oe me table.
vicious tusk to impute improper conduct to any its- Mr. PAK,. r id. initial, that the Attuants pi-seemed to the
Howse rotative to the 'Mead :timpanist ut Ireland h, priut• without Site parnee interested haring notice of their of being current for the sums they represent iii beet
dieitlttal, but such had heels that of NI r..Eteres ; lie
el Ordered. intention, and WWI On injustice to those individuals. cmtutries ; for so ennui us the bank paper of out
1 • thoughethe House would he Mititinn its their ditty,
if they slid not speed-11r Move an Add -e to His Mif;ul..l. IsHow wait to remedied . tolie is tonged to place is current in the other place, or cast be con ittLreastemies.
,n,rttioreveilb,..
printed.thatebeP.ar=i steel this it be i 1
I.• .. .- '7-77. _.__. their wine other place,• where the people had notice of vented into paper unit is so corrent. trim tile meant
Majesty for the immediate ail of that Nlinister ; day •
A Message hum the notate of theme euncneirwo, mai
? But then it was said, their imereets might be of remitting is not unlined to bills of es:elem.;
it was a ditty they owed to the memory of the it us- Limb/tips had censed to Me isomer nisi Purisasuuth Coen
trios* and geliant officer Sir John *'• tome. Ile con- peesetion Diks, anal several private Bills. guarded by regtoutions. He thought it the wisest only, bin compose eat' the whole miner (sorrels:
ceived it incumbent to bring thieperticuler subject .
Mr. Bose -ed for the printing of certain • course to reject the bill altogether. The mode lie If them Batik of England ogler was current
very soma under the consideration of the Notre.—
papers presented to the I loose on Friday host. rola- einiceired fittest for removiug each au annoyance us Ireland, and Bank of Ireland paper couvertil• :
With regard to these letters also, their importance live to our trade with Anti ries. flu donig this, lie this market, would be to almond a 'Cominittee of into it at par. auy person liuvint oi.cissioo to 1114 -
seas such as to remove every blame contrived to be
took occasion to observe, that froin there papers it indifferent maims. who might lay down some plan. a remittance to Loudon, would be aide todo
attached to the conduct of that lament:it Com-
would appear that one exports to America had in. %ranch could. hare the effect desired. Ile believed at no other expense that: the postage el the tette
b
. ' mender, mid clearly to chew it was to tee imputed crt."" metre the year 1807, although many had such an annoyance was lee to be found in the heart teaseling his notes, ii suppli •11 gee estates of mini
wholly flu another quarter. anticipated that thit Order,. in Council would be of soother city iii the world. tatice would always lie 2 IMO equal to the d
The Earl of Livettruot. eats', he wished to be the total destruction id our trade; to (toilet their Mr. WHI IMRE A D amid, that one worthy Alder- tumid for it. anti the existialce of an anchan•
n,
clearly understood with respect tb what he hall frees, it was nereveary to elate .that more than 30 p Man hail proposed erecting hats, to keep off the wouldLe entirely done aory. %Ir. Parasell eat
atuted on a Inener occasion. It would be in their
Aries had left this. cauntry in laud than in 1807, cattle irsim the Foundling Hospital; and soother that it was very easy to illustrate the accuracy
Lordships recollection he had not asserted the let. Busking au harems! iir tonnage of 00 less 61111 had devised a ',Whorl of biking assay the stench ; this teasoniag, by exnun 111 l ig hoe wetter, of ti
tete refereed to were of no importance, he inerely• 08•000 tous• lint they did lint point out the miy to keep off the sort were emulated between London and Lie
stated. they would be limns' not, metered ; with Mr. Peteu Mecum said, lee knew not what the stench and nom from the streets (A /aegis). pool, between which Places there is a great trw .
redact to Sir John Moore's further march from Right jloinGeutleuein meant by making this kite' The Aerensiao-HEN nu al. Baia The City officers A person in Liverpool' having octet eii to evil.
nahunanee, true it nay, lie eutertuined an opinion of statement. lie had lii fore
.Fiven his opiuiou upon should be seat with the cattle, to keep them quiet remittance to London, can do se either I,y a bill -t
that sir :elm Moore he ad wed wisely under all the effect of the Orders in Council •11 our menu- (.1 lamgh). An Hoes. Member hail mentioned the exchusige, or by bank piper. espiati ensrent at e.
circumstencee in proceeding further at the time, factories, and repented that the weevers were ruined great improvements which were to lies4lected by verpool and at London, and therefore not being I -
but he was still diseteed to differ from Noble fur want of trade. . this change i maguitieent houcec erre to be erect- 'pendant lowan the quantity of hills of entail •.,
a
. Lords oppnete that Sir .t. Moore was tint led to do ' Mr. ROM replied, that the papers hche4 quoted ed close to the market, and tine streets were to be but having sued. paper at his commaioi, lee
so by any terser sent to biro frou3 Mr. Frere. Whet had been oil tile /able aneefrulav• amid were there- formed ; but he wished to know whether they were mike his remittance eithoot any loop. And, ti ~
lie haul also described the letters to be private, he fore open to the inspection said observation of eve- intruded for the beasts, as he befit real none rinser as the only difference in the relative eircutastes • I
had dehued in what way he meant to use that ex- ry our. would inhabit them—(i! Iwiegh.). The interest of of Liverpool mud Dublin is, that one has a cuniu •ii
pression. He merely applied that word to the form Mr. PETE. MOORE olrlerreil, that in crime- the city was seised to he, to keep the market where circulating medium with London. rill that
in which they were received, and nano the sub- queirce of the exportation of silk utanufecliire I it is, and he should eertuinly app sae its retnenalese. other hes out ;is it not equally clear that, i ,
Jett matter of their cements. He thought it pro- being stopped. the silk weavers of Coventry weir The Bill ought is be rejected from the barthen it common medium is estabbslied, the eichaime s i
per to rise for the purpose of giving this explaua- actually etarving • would imp ooe on the iuhabitants where they would cease. The Honountble Member will he i•
tion, but he was not disposed to be drawn into any The papers were then ordered to be printed. remove it. The reasons urged for sending it to u aware that the. power of converting Bank of I •
collateral discussion on this question, as next Fro. RMITHFIELD MARKET. those
it left a elmi
hosewhtilicio,.e of
nviticeodo him it Laid paper into Bank of Iniglaud paper would u
11 1
day the whole of it would come before the House, Sir CUSULWA tattles moved the order of the day Couogni: !Itotete tetowgeo, sothers ape he a necessary result of the aseimilation of the co
•i the Noble Earl's (Grey) motion. for die second reading ref the Bill, for the removal proving u-liat lie might particularly wish to con- but that such a power must in some deeree derei
Earl Gags was surprised how any one could of Smithfield Market. demo. The measure itself was extremely oppress- upon the coselitet of the proprietor* of the Bank
Peruse the letters ten reed tu, and the uaiswers of Mr. Alderman CONDE rose to oppose the Bill. ire, as it went to injure a number of persons with- Ireland. He could not, however, believe the t
Sir 'Jolla Moore. and mail-item that he had not although hie of had been iu a great degree out may notice, who could have no appeal, and to when every thing was done that was necessary t
Tern drivers *truing his own inclination to march removed, by the jurisdictiou of the city being ex- I remove the mai Let to the destruction of some of the be done ha order to do away the exchaoge, ex. ellt
further than 5411111141104 If he recollected 'correct- tended to the new market. Still, however, he felt 1 best lions. ein the metropolis, what they had it in their power to do, they violet
jy what had been meted by the Noble Secretary, it-his duty to °Witte the further progress of the The question being loudly called for, the gallery in far oppose the public interest as to refuse h
respecting the letters being of a private netare, he Bill, as the inhabitants of Smithfield and its vita- . wits cleared, but we understood the Bill war with- consent to pay their notes with neilk of Euglato
• certainly understood him to hare expeenan himself nity were sootiest the remove!, it bring prejudicial i drawn without a ilitisiini. notes, or ill .1.111,4, miyable in !Amnon, at Cetill,,,
. differently at the time. He was sorry Noble Lords to their interests ; and because the inhatiainets of ' ' IRISH CURRENCY. fitted-eaten lu Scotland, the churtered banks ih.
On that side or the House had been led to suppose the neiehbourlnirsd where it was to be removed to, i Mr. PARNELL rose to wake his promised motion done away the exchange that used to exist hetwer
the objection to their bring produced, rested upon felt that it would esitidly hurt then. lie condiul• !On the Kl..idlitotioll of the currency of Ireland to Scotland and Euttiatel, by takaig such steps• all
their contents being of a private maitre. There ed by moving that the Bill should be read a second I that of Great Britain. He said, that one uiconve- it appears by the Report of the Committee of' ib
enuld WWI however, be no doubt the fatal recut time this dry six months, n silence atteisdiog the difierenee of the currencies Muse, who were appoluted in 1804 to Mrs *title
of the eninpaigo in Stalin, wits in eonsequeoce of Mr. Illson't MARTIN opposed the Bill. Ile I was its contributing to maintain a feeling of reps- the stale of the currency in Irelasid, that tiirey di
the interff renee of Mr. Frees with the cot:duet of conceived. were it allowed to pose, that it would be ration aid dienuction between the itdrahitaete of so without incurring any loss. Besides it will I
bin John Moore. *reat* injury to the charity of the Foundling Hos- these countries very ineousisteut with their tit:steel to the iutereat of the Bank of Ireland to d * ere
The Earl of Ceersvostr, after Karin;, adverted pital, as well is. to thee persons possewitig estates ii prosperityJ 'Clot it gave the respective parts cif the tiling 111 their power to den away the eeclueoge. i
to the !miters on the table, mentioned Id, having. that neighletrnrhoOd. The streets were genteel, i Unitedasimplom a character that belonged rather well as of the Bank of Englund ; Lemmas. wile
i ' been absent fur 'sant of health—and therefore be clean, null quiet, and the value of hovses hurl great- to countries foreign to each other, than to Members ever the restrictiou of cash puyments is tuber) se
did not distinctly know whether soy motion had ly increased. If this mealiore were carried. it iof the same empire ; a character very inconsistent they will he exposed, as they ever hitee been, I
been mule, similar to the nee he intended to pro- would change the character of the place, and hones with the spirit of rat al union, and the true interests constant demands upon them for VIM 1111 to rem
. pose. He now gave notice he, should to-morrow would *ink, instead of rising in value. The injury of the people. hr had always considered the Act from one country to the lather, as the mediate,
more for a copy of all instructions sent from Ills it would be to itulividirds was itoottitre. Oue of Union as the. must incomplete measure that varies, unless they get rid of it. Had it not be
Majesty's Government to Mr. Prere ; for it was ledy alone, (Mrs. Doughty) possessed from 110 to 1 could be framed to meet the ohject it had in view, for the impolitic measure of renewing the Chub
. of great importance tosacertain the pitmen possess- 140 houses in the neighbourhood. the leases of I anti this correctness of this opinion was illustrund last year to the Bunk of Ireland, the doing awe
ad by Mr. Frere, which anthonsed him to controul which would expire in the year MI I. when she by the present state of the currencies. Though be the exchange might have been made sure a
the conduct of a Coininauder. It was also men- would he-greatly enriched ; but if thaw bill passed, had opposed that measure because it was thought as the Bank would have been willitig to hat
Coned, a particular person was the tearer of a it was very likely the houses aught retain', empty; its repeal would be essential to tile meeervatiou of made the necessary stipulations for effecting i
dressage to Sitlainauces, yet his name was kept se- so that tea this individual alone, the loss would the empire,if the expectations encouraged by it seem sooner tl•an have lust their Charter. As it is, lee
cret. and was mantel, by a blank in the printed ainoeut to several thousand patina. • I not accomplished ; still. however, he was anxious ever, eseu if they should refuse to pan the
mom He could- not conceive why this person Mr. Hose slid, that A necessity existed for the that every thing should be done to prelude an notes wits Bank of England notes ; the comet
should not be named--but he would, to-morrow, rionoral of th market was beyond all doubt.— I unielimity in interest and is feeling betweee the two -of the latter may, in a great measure, be obtains
glove, ordeal he Wilt I)IVVIDU!tIy informed, that it There was not sufficient space to transact the bush- countries, and for that remote -aloot4 others, he' tie Irdu id, by makilig, then, legal tett:Jere. espied
• should he discloses: to the House. nese. This was felt when there were but 100,000 was &emus to see this difference of currencies, su, sod to the same extent with the notes of the Bat
The Earl of Livseecn. could assure the Noble hoists brought mumally into the market, the nutn• strong an emblem of distinct nations, completely of Ireland. The unineinite effect of this revel
Lord, that no instructions were sent, whamau- her now amounted to 150,000; the consequence done sway.. Another imonvenienee arising f• lion would be the impossibility of an exettiee
o thnsed Mr. Frere to colitroul the conduct of oar was, that the cattle became injured by their Int into it, wall the restraint it imposed imoti the commer unfavourable to England, because uo one would i
A military commender. • The commouicat which lung en each other. and the buyers were unable to cial intercourse of the tell countries—a restraiin to 'Change. and give a premium fur a Bill on Du
took place, was merely coleieiiiitiit on our Silltilatt tit,' them. When the City decided to enlarge the I quite inconeistent with that perfect freedom of liar, whom he could get a [seek note without apr
being the political agent of the directions given-by market. they funnel it impossible to iacrease it trade, which is always necessary, oi order that toium, and thus one-hitif of the business of don
the Government of that eountry. With respect to none them two acres; it at presein occupies a trade may be (swim u ' oto the ereatint possible stein the exchange would lie effeeted. But it
the name of the per,on, Noble Lords would come- space of 4a nacres. and • they wish to make it ns.— "Advantage. For, certainly, des distieence of car.. in proportion to the quantity of Batik of Eng( ai
T,' derit might be attended with iuconyesiienee and in- It was ninevaity which induced them to wish for maces, circumstanced as Crest Briteisi and Ire- notes sent to Irelaud, the means of remitting fro
jury, if NI Misters were tinder the necessity of die. its remota!, es it was quite contrary to their intr.. land are in regard to retch other, did form un ole Irelnnd to Etiglaud would Le facilitated, mid t
do-ring the names of permits officially employed ; rev. Although the place they had pitched upon I *unction of reansidevabie effect upon the free circle. tendency of the exchange to become utifavoursi
and for that reason he did not feel wurtasited in might be ohjentionable, still there were two other lotion of the capital, labour, and industry of both to (retold lie counteracted; and, therefore, t)
naming the person entitled to. places whichneuld not lie so. •He thought there countries. For dm' the operatien of converting stuns simple regulation, without the aid of the Bank
Earl GOAT did not believe the Noble Earl was a degree of severity in getting rid of the Bill lof money of one currency into sums of the other, is' Ireland, would de a vast deal towardsabulishing I
(Carysfort) would be succesefisl in the first part of this way towards the city, which they did not merit, verysinsple one, and perhaps to those accustomed to exchange altogether. The tasking Bank of Eta
Isis :notion. • after he himself hied said so Much re- and expressed his anxiety that the Bill might be .it presents tio difficulty whatever, still it nes•essierily land paper a legal tender in Ireland, could not
lative to the instructions sent to Mr. Free.; read a second time, and allowed to go to a Coin- must be to till other persons a source of doubt re- attended with any lose to the par obliged to to
After all the pipers which had beets laid on the ruittee, whertiall objections might beeniswered. speeting the result of commercial speculutions con- it, because the only case that eau happen to ma
Table, there was so much information kept back, Mr. HOOPER wished to state a single, fact, that fleeted with Ireland; and thus it must contribute to Bank of England paper of less value in Irels
he declared it was not possible for the House to au- the City had already contracted for this objection- deter many from emberking in enterprises, which titan Bank of Irelmid paper,is the exchange bei
eve at a correct jartgruent on the whole of the pro. able spot of ground.. His whole objection to the tomtit be highly advantageous to-such a country as against England ; hut it has bee■ shewn thus t
ceedinge. There could be no inconvenience ore Bill went to the !duce proposed. Ireland, so much in need of an adequate eapitel td can never mien( so long as Bunk of England pit
suiting from mentio sing this person's name, for it Mr. Ltrrirros expressed himself against the give effect to its natural resonsces. But the prin. is a legal tender in Ireland. Under these ciscu
was Already known it was no secret, yet it was said. I further progress of the Bill. copal inconvenience that relished from the present stances. the lion. Member said that he felt he i
bemuse it case might be incouvenient 10 name a I Sir Coors! Penn; supported the Bill. lie state of the currencies, was the centime. of an ex. warranted to infer, that the assimilation of '
psi-neuter pertain, the information was refused; such 1 spoke in-so low a mar of voice, that we Were only change between the two countries; such a thing currencies, if assists-4 with a regulatien to mi
inligltilgt: 1,104 imbecommg a Secretary of State. able to collect, that tile city were aneinus to eu• not being known between any two places having as Brisk of Englund paper*. legal tender in leek
Lord AUCKLAND observed, it w•• known who large the mnrket rather than remove it, und urged • common circulating medium. lie should rodent- would completely dri noire the exeleinge betty
the person alluded to was: he should abstain from the necessity of the Bail being allowed to go to a sour to prove this by reference to feels and gooel • the two colititries. Ile then proceeded to cup
saying his name. but it might be very material Committee. I authorities • and if the getting rid of the exchange , what be had Mid. by several authorities. Prim
tinder all the eircumstences to know who, be was. Mr. C. lionestoson objected to its being al- weight he dre consequence of the assimilation, lie Butler, whilst Minister for Ireland, in a trite
whether a person seriarnenthiseountry and attach- lowed to go to o Committee, He feared, if it were felt sure that this alone Would justify the measure. Sir Robert Walpole, says, "there is no doubt
el to Mr. Frcre's mute, or a penmen employed thene, left to the decision or a Committee, that the spot Exchange pus said to be at par between England it would be absolutely hold to reduce the Sag