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VERY SLPERIOR CELLARS FOR WINE, BEER,
ALE, &c.

The Outbuildings consist of cool dairy. scullery, kundry, wash-
house, shoe-house. knife-hole, &c.; a stable-yard, double coach-
hosts:, stabling fur ten horses, harness-room, &c. ; dove-cotes and
poultry-houses ; home farm-yard, with cart-horsc stable, waggon
and csrt-sheds, cow-house, two commodious barns ; another farm-
yard, with granary, piggery, and slaughter-house, poultry-house,
and rick-yard.
Capital walled Kitchen Garden, well stocked, cropped, and
planted, and clothed with choice fruit trees, melon-ground, seed-
room, hot and green houses, grapery, &c.
The Pleasure Grounds are most tastefully disposed with gravelled
walks, ornamented with thriving shrubs, flowers, evergreens, fte.
The whole containing about

EIGHTY ACRES

of fine :Meadow and small part Arable Land, finely varied in hill
and dale. . _

To be viewed by tickets only, Particulars may be had on the
premises ; at the Castle, Eltharn ; Golden Lion, Bertley-heath ;
Bull, Dartford ; Star, Foot's Cray; Mortar, Woolwich ; Green
Man, Blackheath; a/Messrs. Kaye, Frcsllield, and Kaye. Solici-
tors, Bank-buildings; at GarrawaVs ; and of Mr. Robins, N 0.170,
Regent.street, of whom tickets may be had.

SALE OF VALUABLE AND INTERESTING PRO-

PEATY, TICE' BORNE-STREET. PICCADILLY.
By Mr. JAIII CS DENEW.
On the Premises, THIS and following DAYS. at 12.
ASPLENDID Assemblage of DECORATIVE FUR-
NITURE. in Clocks, Candelabra, Lamps, Vasei.
mires, and numerous other items, principally designed by Mr.
%%'eeks from antique models, and executed is that superior style
of workmanship which has for so many years distinguished his
productions z costly objects in Jewellery, displaying the utmost
effect of the mechanical art; beautiful Specimens of rare old
China, both useful and ornamental, from the Dresden, Sere. and
other celebrated factories ; large Tripods, nobl: Chinese Pagodas
and Mandarin Figures ; antique and modern Sculptures. Bronzes.
and Carvings ; Casts in Wax. large Enamels. Silver Filigree and
other Works, of great value: Self-acting Finger and Barrel Organs,
Library Chairs, Cabinets, Suits of Armour, Pictures. Drawings,
curious Models, &c. etc. The whole collected by Mr. Weeks,
during a long series of years. at the most liberal expense
May be viewed, and Catalogues had in Tichborne-street ; and at
Mr. Denew's Office, Charlarrcet, Berkeley-square.
CAPITAL PREMISES
-

At the Entrance of Piccadilly, with full command of that Orent
Public Thoroughfare—a situation unrivalled for Business, Tich-
borne.street, and Great ‘Vindmill-street.
By Mr. JAMES DENENV:,
On the Premises, on MONDAY NEXT, at 19,
THIS Valuable PROPERTY, adapted for a Public
Institution, or Business Concern, of the first importance, is
placed in the most commanding situation in the Metropolis. and,
according to its present arrangement, comprises a spacious double.
fronted Shop, in Tichbourne-street ; large light Shop in Windmill-
s:reet, with private entrance ; a vestibule and grand ataircese lead.
ing to a noble Exhibition Room, about 100 feet by 2, feet, lofty hi
proportion, judiciously lighted and fitted up at an immense ex-
pense. On the same floor arc two show rooms of large dimensions.
a cheerful sitting room, kitchen, and various domestic accommoda-
tions; duce separate staircases leading to numerous betleh3mbera
and apartments, with extensive light shops. for workmen in the
attics, cluck chamber. &c. The basement contains capacious store
places, kitchens, cellars, and vaults; there are several well-placed
water closets, and water is conveniently laid on to the premises;
the whole of which are in hand. A light modern-fronted Shop in
Tichbourne.strect is let to a tenant at will. The property may
either be occupied according to its actual arrangement, or divided
into three distinct dwelling-houses and slms—attaching to either
of them the Exhibition Room, or the three may he advantage-
ously let off; retaining the present enttancti to' the Room, from
Windmill-street. The tenure is leasehold, subject to a moderate
reserved rent.

Illay be viewed by tickets, to be obtained by principals only, on
application to Mr. Denew, Auctioneer, Charles-street.

SMALL RESIDENCE,
HILL-STREET, BERKELEY-SQUARE,
By Mr. JAMES DENEW,
At his Auction Room in Charles-street, Berkeley-square, on
TUESDAY, May IS, at 12.
AVERY DESIRABLE RESIDENCE, suited to a
Lady or Gentleman of fortune, on a small establishment,
situate No. 13, Hill-street, Berkeley-square; comprising entrance
hall, with stone staircase, dining and breakfast room, good pro-
portioned drawing-rooms, airybetl-chambers. attics. and convenient
domestic offices. held for a term of G 3 years from 31ichaelmaa 11131,
at the rent of 150 f. per annum.
To be viewed preceding the sale. Particulars may be had on
the premises, at (areaway's; and of 31r. Dencw, at his otiice,
Charles-street, Berkeley-square.

LEASE and FURNITURE of a CONVENIENT RESI-
DENCE, LITTLE STANHOPE-STREET, MAYFAIR.
By. Mr. JAMES DENEW,
At his Auction Room, Charles-street, Berkeley-square, on TUES-
DAY NEXT, the 10th Inst. at in One Lot,
riPIIE BENEFICIAL LEASE, with immediate pos-
.l_ session, of a most convenient and comfortable HOUSE for a
small Family, situate No. 10, -Little Stanhope-street, Mayfair.
comprising three rooms on each flour, in a very complete state of
repair, and held for a term of seven years at a rent of only 701. per
annum. The excellent Household Furniture, Fixtures, Carpets,
useful and ornamental China and Effects, to be included in the
purchase.
To be viewed preceding the Sale. 'Particulars may be had on the
Premises, and of Mr. Denew, Charles-street, Berkeley-square.

BUCKS.
THE VACHE ESTATE,
Consisting of an extensive Manor, Mansion, Park, and Four Farms.
Hy Mr. FOR REST, or Mr. SEDQWICK,
On WEDNESDAY. the fith of June, at 12, at Garraway's Coffee-
house, Change-alley, Curnhill, London, in Three Lots,
AVALUABLE and very IMPROVABLE FREE-
HOLD ESTATE, situate at Chslfont St. Giles, a fine
sporting part of the county of Bucks, three miles from Amersham,
eight from Uxbridge, and twenty-three from London; consisting
of the Manor of Chalfont St. (ilk., extending over about four
thousand Acres, comprising nearly the whole of the Parish, with
the Quit-rents, Fines, and Royalties ; an excellent and eommodibus
Mansion-house, with convenient and well-arranged Offices, Coach.
houses and Stabling, Lawn, and %Veiled Hardens, placed on a de-
lightful eminence, in a beautiful Park, called
THE VACHE.

Lying in easy swells, ornamented with a variety-of timber trees,
pleasingly grouped and scattered, and skirted by thriving woods
and the adjoining farms of Gorelagds and NVarren Hill and Town ;
also Farms lying together, and diVided from the other part of the
Estate by the high road to Amersham : containing in the whole
upwards of Eight Hundred and Twelve Acres of Meadow, Pasture,
Arable and %i ood.land, intersected by the 3lisabourne Stream,
with Farm-houses (one of which is suitable for the residence of a
genteel family), and proper Buildings for Husbandry, a Water
Corn-mill, and a Alalting.
The Farms are let to Messrs. William and Thomas Gundry, and
Richard Bigg, on short Leases, at low Rents.
The Mansion, Park, Woods, mod Three Tillage Fields arc now
is hand. . .

The Mansion-house contains a handsome suite of well-connected
Apartments, consisting of a drawing-morn, dining-room, breakfast-
room, and library, with excellent family chambers and servants'
apartments.
To be he viewed (the House by Tickets only), which, with
Printed Particulars, mss be hail of Ale•srs. Farrers, Atkinson, and
Parkinson, Solicitors, Lincoln's Inn-fields, London ; Mr. Sedg-
wick. Woodwicks, near Rickmansworth; and of Mr. Forrest, 87,
Aldersgste-street. London.
maTyhbee Thadenanfitms will
ksh,obwertohereFtweeri Sale
s,leof;
Illbsidge; Essex Arms, Watford; George, Aylesbury; White 1
Hart, Windsor; and at (lanaway's. whom
ma
tPtrtiinet`tedt'hPintertlieluorsiae". I

COMMERCIAL
VINCEB
On Saturday, the 19th,
between the Government t
Provinces, took place in the
eelleney the Governor, in pn
pe!enttary, spoke as follows:
• Sir—The Government
whieh is charged with the
Linked Provinces of Rio de
ini to the Plenipotentiary a
the Treaty concluded on
and it is doubly satisfactory,
similarity of the principles s
they are, doubtless, the surest
which ought to prevail bete
' Mr. Parish replied--••
ratification of our Treaty,
lency, and all the inhatiitato
which placer yea in rev
slid which is entirely owi,
policy you have adopted.
" Sir—Before great Britain
more with any ore of the tie,
to know whether that State v
only ice tranquility for the •
the future.

"Sir—The flattering
tannic Majesty on :I+m ,
only by the lioveminetit,
in general. •o cultivate at
with the subjects sr his
of their irrevocable rowdy
have been the corisiderai
to take this step, and is
Provinces, sealing for eve
" hlay !leaven grant thi
act the passage which shal'
nation by the rest of the r
We have obtained by
tween Great Britain and tl

" Be it known, the Treat.
merce, haring been conduct
of February, by Don Man,
United Provinces of Rio
Plenipotentiary a his Bri
true copy of the same:—
" An extensive commerce
mem the dominions of hit
'ince' of Rio de la Plata,
promotion of the said come
derstanding between his M,
existing relations should It
a Treaty of Friendship.
view they have named for
his 31ajesty the King of GI
Majesty's Consul-General
vincea, Don Manuel Jon
Ice., who, having exchanged
following Articles:—
" An. 1. Stipulates perpetual
and subjects of the two parties.
" Art. 2. Reciprocslfiredona
any other foreign subjects.
Art. 3. His Britanni
nions in Europe and other
United Provinces shalt enj
preceding Articles, to the
may be permitted in futui
" Art. 4. No article of
party shall be subjected. it
duties than similar articles
any prohibition to export
nufacture from. or into,
Ices such r-ohibition inch

" Art. 5. Vessels of a;
pay any tonnage, light.
•Inty. in any of the ports
tional Yawls of the couni

" Art. R. Articles of ti
shall pay the same impott
they arc imported in the sh
Provinces; and the same .
shall be paid on the emportation
nufaeture from either tour'
or those of the United Pr-

•` Art. 7. To prevent
ships built in his 31Mesti
and registered, amertlinp,
considered tts British ships
tories of the said Proi itve,
the same Province, or of a
fourths of the crew are cit
sidred as vessels of thell

" Art. B. Every merchi
iects of his Britannic Mai
the United Provinces, the
his own affairs, to confide
agent, or interpreter, wi
that purpose any persons •
them ; the buyer and letter
tract end 6x, at their pima'
dice, &c. imported into, or
vincea.

"Art. 9. In all points
security of merchandise a.
every description, by sale
whatsoever, as well as to
jests of the contracting parti
minions of each other, the
as those of the most favour
duties or taxes than the sub,
they shall he exempt from ..
sea or land ; from all forced
tion, nor shall they be °Wit
under any pretext, greater
cii iznis of the party pay.
" Art. 10. Each of tl
who shall not exent'se
Oovernment to a hic:l they,
to the residence of Consuls
please to except.
" Art. 11. For the greater
subjects of the contracting y
of any unfortunate in terror
merce, or a breach between
of inch, residing in the
pririlegcs of remaining
terruption, so long as
way offend the laws. at
Med to individuals or to
hargo or sequestration, ti
belonging to the natural
subjects or citizens may r
"Art. 12. The subject
United Provinces t-f Rio
cuted, or molested, on ammo
a perfect liberty of ca nscienc
in their own houses, or in t
pel•. which they shall be iv
venient situations, which sl
of the said United Province
1 the subjects of his Britanni
of the United Provinces,
in like manner form and n
subjects of the said United .
nions of his Britannic 1113jesi,
conscience, and the exercise of
the houses where they reside,
houses destined for that purpose,
leration established in his Alai.-

" Art. IS. The subjects t
Un:ted Provinces, may freel;
scription, in whatever form t
fit ; and if a British subje
without a will, or dispositi
gni-General, or, in his abort
thorised to appoint guardians
for the lawful heirs and c
giving notice to the Authorities
" Att. 14. Ilia Britannic
abolition of the Slave Tr
Plata engage to co-operate
henefical a work, and to pr
Provinces, or subject to
manner, and by the most
said traffic.
" Art. 15. The above
tion exchanged in four mom
" In testimony wLercot
set their hands and seals.
" Done at Buenos Ate
Lord 1823. (1..'

" We. J. G. de !as
the Province of Buenos A
power of the United Prost
in Congrras„ baying, it.
the 23d January, 1825.
stltuent Congress for its
and approbation to nul
present Act we rstity and
engaging, in the name o,
stipulations and obligations
violably fulfilled.
•6 In testimony whereof,
strumcnt of ratification, and
3linistcr of War sad Marine,
seal, at Buenos Ayres,
Lord 1825.
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TREATY WITH TIIE PRO- 1
E7B OP LA PLATA.
--.....—_
Bonitos AYRES, FEB. 23. \ :
, the Tll6BOlOOO of tie Treaty. conehted
of Great Britain and that of the United
1 0 c.
he Cabinet of the Government. His Ex-
presenting this Act to the Minister Pleoi.
Ws:—
i
ern of the Province of Buenos Ayres,
the general authority of the Nation of the
de la Plata.. has the satlrfaction of deliver-
y
of his Majesty the King of Great Britain
m the 2d of the month, and new ratified;
A'
my, as, by this an, a proof is given of the
les which prevail in both nationn and as
wrest plcdte of the perpetual friendship i
novena them."
-• In receiving, by your Excellency, the
a I cannot but cor.panalate your Excel-
itants of this country, upon this event, ' Ir 4
'ask of the motions recognised in the If • I
ring to your own elution, and the hbee; a I 1
I s
lritain could enter into relations of O.'
he new States of America, it was :Iceman,
ate was in a situation which promised, not 0:
he moment, but pledges and solid bases for
accounts which have reached his Bri-
e points,, added to the wish expressed, not
t, but by the inhabitarte of this country
at all tisr.cs the most friendly relations
is Britannic Majesty. and the conviction t , 1
elution to eeparate for ever from Spain, • i
:atiene which have induced his Majesty ' ' 1 11 , '
to make this compact with the United
.
ver oar friendship by the most solemn act. 1 e
i
that this friendship be perpetual, and that
. t
:all lead to the worthy recognition of the
woad !" FEZ. 2i.
an extraordinary channel, the Treaty be- , f I
the United Province,. I' is as follows:
mate of Friendship. Navigation, and Coot- I 11
' :ludic! in due form, on the 2d of this month
1 t: 1 '
anuel Joie Garcia, Plenipotentlary of the
ide la Plata, and Mr. Woodbine Pa-ish,
ritannic Majesty, that the following is a, , 'lf•
t
•
nem, having exio'ed for many years be- 1
do Britannic Majesty and the United Pro-
*, it seems advisable, for the safety and
eel:term, end the consolidation of good un-
Majesty and the said Provinces, the: these I
be formally recognised and confirmed by (
•
Commerce, and Navigati3 'With this / a
ir their respective Plenipot isAa. , viz.—, 1
Great Britain. Mr. 11 ood • e Pariah, his
al at Buenos Ayres ; and the United Pro- I :
on Garcia. Munster for Foreign Affairs,
nged their full powers, have agreed on the
erpetuol friendship between the ileminiora • , 1 '
tarties.
(redont of trade, on the same forting as
:s.
nic Majesty agrees, that in all his dorni. •
er parts of the world, the inhabitants of the
snjoy the freedom of trade stipulated it the
1 .
te whole extent that it is vow remitted, or
Ti'
are, to any other nation.
of the produce or manufacture of either
;
in the dominions of the other, to higher
les from other foreign countries, nor shall il
t or import any article of produce or ma.
the respective dominions, imposed, Ur. t I
lude the same articles of -other countries.
Move 120 tons, of either parr, shall not a '
nhoese, pilotage. salvage, or other local 111
sof the other party, higher than the na. .
ntry to which the port belongs.
i
the produce or manufacture of either party
nt duties in the ports of the other. wheth:,e . .
i shins of Great Britain or of the United
.me bounties, allowances, and draw hacks,
:ortation of such articles of produce or ma- . 1
country, whether exported in Dritith ships ;
Provinces.
misunderstandings, it is stipulated that all
ty's dominions, which are owned, manned,
ing to the laws of Great Britain. shat; be .:1
ipa ; and that all vessels built in the tern-
sees, duly registered, owned by citizens of
f any one of them, whose Captain and three- i 0
citizens of the said Prey inert., ejtall be con.
United Provinces.
4t: •
pant, commander of a ship. and other nth.
nicety, shall enjoy, in all the territories ee
Se same liberty as the natives, to manage
le them to whoever he pleases as hie factor, t,
• • 1
rithout being obliged to employ or pay for
I whatever. unless he thinks fit to employ • ,
ter to hare at all tunes full liberty to con- .
name, the price of all effect's, member-
or exported from, the said United Pro- 111 ":
1`
is relative to the unloading of vessels, the 41t and effects, the disposal of property of
sale, donation, exchange, or other mode , . •
to the administration of justice. the sub-
parties shall enjoy, respectively. in the do- 11.
the same rights, privileges, and franchise.
Toured nation. They shall not pay higher
subjects of the State in which they reside;
som all military service whatever, either by t' , '
breed loans, exactions, or military requisi-
obliged to pay any ordinary contributions. t
I.r •
%ter titan what the natural subjects and
Z' '
th▪ e
parties may appoint Consuls, as usual, .
their functions till duly approved by the
they are sent; and either party may except 1
mauls in such particular placts as at may
greater security of commerce between the
ling parties, it ix stipulated, that in case
:IltUntion of the amicable relations of tom- 1
•
C. 141 the two parties, the subjects tin.! CiIiZEIOI
se dominions of the other, stall have the . ,
and continuing their trade without any in. ...
they behave peacribly, mid do not in any
and their eftints and property, whether con-
. the State. shall not he subject to any cm-
than may be paid by the effects or property
al inhabitants of the State in which the sat.! ' I
reside.
eta of his Britannic Majesty residing in the
o de la Plata, shall not be disturbed, pine-
mount of their religion ; but they shall enjoy
eienee in them ; celebrating Divine *wraith,
in their own particular churches and viva-
e authorised to build and maintain its eon. 1 -
h shall be approved of by the Government
inces. It shall also be permitted to bury
.nnie Majesty who shall die in the territory
in their own cemeteries, which they may •
I maintain them. On the other hand, the , •
ted Provinces shall enjoy, in all the dont'''.
Natty, a perfect and unlimited freedom of
vise of their religion, public or private. its
reside, or in the chapels anti religious
purpose, conformably to the system of to.
tie Majesty's dominion's.
eta of his Britannic Majesty, residing in the
freely dispose of their property of every sie-
rras they please, or by wRI, as they think i
s
abject should die in the United Plovineee :
I
',Won of his property, his Majesty% to::.
absence, his representative, shall he au.
irdians, who shall take care of the property. t
and czeditors, without any interference.
'Uterine,' of the Country, and reciprocally.
omnic Majesty, anxiously desiring the total
Trade, the United Provinces of lIM de la
-ate with his Majesty in accomplishing so
0 s
n prohibit all persons residing in the United
to their jurisdiction, in the most effectual
at solemn laws, from taking any part in the
.it .
ye Treaty shall be retitledk and the ratifies. I
months, or "sooner, it possible.
cot the said Plenipotentiaries hare hereanto •
Is. in the ear of our "
M. J. OAK( lA.
S.)
" Win /MUNE PARISH."
H
Captan-Genteel nd Gernor of
t enn, e eovxecutive
Ayres, chargedi with the soprerna I:
:minces of Rio de la Plata, now &nembied
1: conformity with the fundamental law of
S, comm
.fstell.) the 2d of February.
unicated the said Treaty to the 006.
anamt, and having obtained its full
y
tire and confirm the said Treaty. 71ZP It
td confirm it in due form, promising anil
, of the said United Provinces, that all die II
ions in the same shall be sacredly sant in.
roof, we sign with our hind the present in.
and hart caused it to be attested by our ,
t •
larine, solemnly Reeling it with the national I
c, the 19th of February, in the year of out , i
, .
AN GREGORIO DE LAS lIERAS. i
lANCISCO DE LA CRUZ." •
i •
i• I •

1.!

P.1R1.1.1111 EN TARI INTELLIG,ENCE.
HOUSE OF LORDS. Tirt:asnAe, Mai 5.
Brogden and other Members from the House of Commons
ht up ..he Metropolitan Police Magistrates Bill, with the
A. amendments agreed to; the Bill for preventin Vexatious
acs, the Sheriffs' Courts Bill, and several private Bills, which
read a first flute.
Looglanilfpresented Accounts of the Number of Vessels of
'mss Runnel' capable of being contained in the West India
• and also Returns of the Number of Vessels now in those
ee Earl of FkLIAPTESBURY presented a petition from the
Fish-eurers of Berwick-upon-Tweed, against the Bin for estab-
i a iletropolitan Fish Companr.—Laid on the table.
CATHOLIC CLAIMS.
Marquis of WINCHESTER presented a petition from the
ibitants of Ramsgate, against the Claims of the Roman La-
:,ORD CHANCELLOR presented a petition to the same
trout the Inhabitants of the !shod of Portland.
I ROLLE presented two petitions of a similar nature.
Bishop of CHESTER presented a petition from the
and Inhabitants of Stockport. signed by 6,500 persons,
the Claims tit the Catholics.
Right Reverend Prelate presented similar petitions from
eil, lisaletun, and several parishes in the county of Lifl-
and also from the Baptist Congregation Meeting in Zoar
Abe-street. (iodilman's-fields.
Earl or SHAFTESBURY presented a similar petition
le Inhabitants of Bridport.
petitions were laid on the table.
GROSVENOR said he was not in the House when the
and Learned Lord presented a petition against the Claims
te Catholics from the Inhabitants of the Isle of Portland.
understood. however, that great pains had been taken to get up
iior,s of that description, and in this particular instance the
carne to the Island of Portland on a Saturday night,
cat and dried." The parties pressed it forward with so
ixiety, and were so urgent in getting it signed, that the
of Portland were quite alarmed, and put their names to it
et knowing what they were doing, and the petition was
U and returned. Front all he could collect, it spoke the senti-
ts cf only a small portion of the people, and one individual.
, had taken an active part in the business, had since expressed
reset that he hail done so. In tact, he t Earl Grosvenor) un-
N.l that it was the petition of the Earl of Eldon and Mr.
. rather than of the people of Portland.
LORD CILINCELLOR said that their Lordships were
in a very singular situation. When no petitions were pre-
against the claims of the Catholics, it was said that the
took no interest in the question; but when their Lordships'
was covered with petitions, and when it was found necessary
:.le repositories foe them, then the practice was for some
in the country to depreciate them, by writing up to some
Lord an account of the manner in which they were said
ditair.ed. Ile could assure their Lordships that the infor-
given to the Noble Earl was altogether incorrect. lie (the
;ilanceLlor) had before stated, that he had remained quite
with respect to petitions of this nature, and he had seen
_ abused in some of the public panels for having been so.
could assure the House that the petition from Portland was as
'h the petition of the Earl of Eldon as it was that el Earl
-enor. it had been given to him by Mr. Banker, and was
by 400 persons, comprising almost the whole population of
Ind. Ile had beers fully convinced from first to last, that
go:4_ sense and feeling of the people of this country were
nit 'I! tot sautes now pending. fie had not heard any thing to
astir this opinion, unless, indeed, it were the strange
reasotang which argued that the more petitions their
.cps bad, the less were they able to ascertain the sentiments
people.
!rouse then adjourned.

OUSE OF COMMONS, Tut-Rot:law, Maw 5.
EXCISE.
'omlint, from the Treasury, brought up certain Papers re-
, the Excise.—Laid on the table.
BRITISH CAS.LIOIIT COMPANY.
11. DRUMMOND presented a petition from the Rain-
Gas-light Company against the British (Jos-light Cotn-
Vt.—Referred to the Committee on the Bill.
WESTERN 611IP CANAL.
GUISE presented a petition from Northbury, a parish
:crsetshire, in favour of the Ship Canal Bill.
PORTM.IN prevented a similar petition from Northfether-
Soniersetshire. The lion. Member presented a similar
front another part of the same enunty.—Ordered to be
NI WBURY IMPROVEMENT BILL.
C. DUNDAS moved the third reading of the Newbury
rement Bill.

IONCK said a few words against the motion.-
PALMER mho opposed it. lie thought the rates to be
ander it too high. lie never could consent that a tax of
in the pound should be exacted from the inhabitants, whilst
Bill the inhabitants of Bedford had to pay but Is. in the
The system worked well in the latter town, and unless the
(ember consented that the rate should be assimilated, he
ppose the thinl reading.
DUND.IS explained.
tgers were ti en ordered to withdraw, and the !louse divided,
!ere appeared—
; NOCS.l2.—Majority in favour of the third reading, 12.
lilt was their read a third time.
tr re-admission to the dialler,, we found
.lONt.:K supporting an amendment which we understand
proposed during our absence. lie considered it most unjust
the Bill should contain a clause exempting those from pay-
" the rates who were the most capable of paring them.
a few words from Mr. BRIGHT, the (louse again di-
We could not ascertain exactly the particular question on
the ditision took place. We underetotwl it to be on the
•up 013 clause, which was to be added by way of rider to

Ayer, 423; Noes, l9.—Majority, 4.
return to the Gallery we again found
ONCK on his legs. Atter a few words from the lion.
uestion was put from the Chair, that a clause be added by
ider to the Bill, fixing the rates to be levied at ls. in the
MIGHT made an observation which did not reach the
dent were again ordered to withdraw, and the Uouse divided,
!here appeared-
-9; Noce, 38.—Alajority amainst the clause, 35.
ROTHERHITiIE DOCKS.

tessage from the Lords announced that- their Lotaships
the Rotherhithe Docka Bill.
COUNTY COURTS BILL. '
lergesnt ONSLOW presented a petition from Charles
:'q.. clerk of the Rules In the Court of Kiny's Bench,
'or compensation in ease the Counq_Courts' Bill pass iutu
Referred to the Committee on the ital.
USURY LAWS.

6ergeant ONSLOIV gave notice. that he would early in the
Season more for a Committee to inquire into the policy and
the Usury Lass.
CORN LAWS.
,INDSAY presented a petition from Forfar, raying for a
of the Corn Laws.
. 111ACRENZIE presented a petition from the Western
Society of the county of Ross, against any alteration in
Laws.

A RQLHA R presented a similar petition front the 31em-
the Synod of Angus.
E. KNATCH BULL presented a similar petition front
tear', in Kent—The petitions were ordered to be printed.
CO.ISBI NATION LAWS.

Alderman W 001) presented a petition from the operative
s of the city of London ; they expressed their regret that a
lartment of the Combination Laws was contemplated. They
operienced the good effects of their repeal, and they and their
Teri always lived in the most perfect harmony.
I. fiNATCHBI 'LI. presented a sitmlar petition from the
ics of Dcptford.—Refetted to the Committee on the Com-
s.

'BEER DUTIES.
,Iderman WOOD presented a petition from the porish,of
Air's, Southwark. praying for a repeal of the Barr Duties.
,itioners complained that the pour paid fur their beer, duty
OIVAIIIt of tire millions, whilst the rich did not pay more
hundred thousand pounds.
lowourable Member presented a similar petition from the
.rand miters of the pariah of lit. George, Surrey.
it question that the latter petition be printed, he said, that
boners expressed their satisfaction that the rich enjoyed the
ge of hiving the duty taken off wine, and hoped a cone-
ag relief may be affinded them.
rifler petition woo presented from the mechanics and working
of It oolwich.
I,C,RA FT presented a similar petition from the me-
at St. Margaret, Westminster.
lIOBHOUSE presented a 'Millar petition from St. John's,
inster.
red to be printed.
SLAVE TRADE.

:VANS moved for a Return of the Slave Populations( the
_ape of Good Hope and the Mauritius, u received at the Colo_
ma! Slave-office since its establishment, distinguishing the number
of males and f: males ; and also for a Return of the number of
Slaves in the %Vest Indian Colonies and in South America, as re-
ceived at the same office ounce the 18th of April. 11124, distinguish-
ing males and females.—Ordered.
CATHOLIC CLAIMS.
. .

ItIeDEN3I.tN amid he held in his hand a petition, which, though
signed by three indltiduals only, was most deserving the attention
of the House. Tha petitioners were highly respectable, and lie
r.is doubt Mot that the Members fur Derbyshire could couch
Tile tetitioners were the Clergymen at the head of
-Baptists, and Independents, in the town of
' with regret that a petition was forwarded from
inn to the Catholic Relief Bill, signed by a
they (the petitioners) were most anxious to
ion with that proceeding, one which was eaten-
entire Dissenting population. They censi-
J only improper but incor.sistent In Dissenters
si.wi of religious liberty to the Catholics. They
Ike inalienable tight of every member of

community to enjoy equal privileges-, and to be equally egible to
all offices Of trust unser Government. The petition prayed that
the House may grant I:inancipation to the Catholics.
An Hon. Member, whose name we could nos ascertain, cor.
roborated the statemer.t of the Hen. :Member for Nottingham
(3lr. L)er.man) as to the high rant of the petitioners.
On the question that the petition be laid on this table.
Sir J. NEWPORT begged to call the attention of the House
to an occurrence that lately took place in Ireland, and ,ouldnot
tail to relieve the Catholic Priesthood from the odium sought to be
fixed on them. A Meeting was lately held at Newcastle. for the
purpose of establishing a composition for tithe. under whit was
commonly called ss
.Mr. Goulburn's Act." The priest f that
pariah presided at the meeting, so much to the satialactiot. of the
parishioners and rector, that the composition was entered into, at d
a vote of thanks to that gentleman was proposed by the vicar, and
seconded by the rector. which set forth that the thanks of all
parties were due to the Rev. Mr. Larkin, for Ilia exertions cn that
occasion, to whirh it was owing that such an amicable se tinger
meet had taken place. (Hear, hear.) The Right !knot table
Baronet went on to say. that he was acquainted with another arish
the same county. in which the priest, for the last forty ears,
though the district was repeatedly disturbed, exerted himislf to
procure the payment of tithes to the Protestant clergyman, and his
efforts wtre generary successful. Ili, conduct was such as to en-
title him to the unanimous thanks of all classes. This, said the
Right Hon. Baronet. is an additional instance of the falsehood of
the assertion, that the Catholic priests were anxious to defeat the
Protestant Clergymen of their rights.
Mr. CARTWRIGHT presented a petition from Royston, in
the county of Northampton, against further concessions to the
Catholics. _ _ _

A;:imThar petition was pre.ented from the inhabitants of Darks-
ton, In StaGrdshire—Ordcreil to be minted.
COUNTY RATES' BILL.

Sir .1. G. COTTEREI.I, presented a petition from Hereford,
against the County Rates' Bill.—Referred to the Committee on the
Bill.

IRISII PROVINCIAL RANKS.

Mr. DALY presentedi Jury of the
County of Galway. in favour of the Bill fur establishing Pro.
sincia Banks in Ireland.—Ordered to he printed.
CRUELTY TO ANIMALS.

Mr. lIODHOUS I: presented a p:tition front certain Inhabitants
of Wt-stminster, io favour of the Cruelty to Animals 11111.—Laid
on the table.
COMIIINATION LAWS.

Mr. BERNAL presented a petition from the operative Sawyers
of Rochester, respecting the Combination Laws.
Tile tame lion. Gentleman presented a similar petition from the
Sawyers employed in the vicinity of the River Thames.
Sir M. V.. RIDLEY presented a petition from ►wo Shipowners
at Limeht•uee. named Sperling and Young, on the subject of a pe.
tition lately laid before the House from the Shipwrights, in which
petition; they (the Shipwrights) stated that they had not the right
of taking their own sons as apprentices. That assertion these pe-
titioners begged now to deny, as they had made inquiries, and
found there were no less than six shipwrights in their own employ.
ment who had their sons bound as apprentices to the:nselvss. The
Honourable Baronet concluded by moving that the petition be
referred to the Committee now sitting on the Combination Laws.--
Referred accordingly.

CORN LAWS.
Mr. ELLICE presented • petition from certain dwners and Oc-
cupiers of Land near Aberdeen, against any alterations in the Corn
Laws—Laid on the table.

ROMAN CATHOLICS.

Alderman TIIO3IPS presented a petition from the Parish
of Et. James. Cardiff; praying that no concession be made to ilia
Roman Caiholics.—l,sid on the table.
DUTIES ON BEER.

Mr. BERNAL presented a petition from the Inhabitants of
Lambeth. praying fur a reduction of the duty on Beer.
JOHN WILLIAMS presented a similar petition from
Hammersmith.

3I r. 310NCK, a similar petition from Reading, and one from the
Inhabitants of St. George's, Hanover-sluare.
Alr. F. PALMER, a similar petition from the parish of,St.
Mary. Whiicchapel.
Sir R. WILSON. fmm St. Olive's, Soutliwirk.
Mr. BROUGHAM. from St. Matthew's, 13ethnaLgreen ; and
from the Mechanics of St. Luke's. Ohl-street. This last petition
expressed the hope of the petitioners, that the penny a pot on par.
ter would be taken off.—These petitions were ordered to be printed.
ROMAN CATHOLIC RELIEF BILL.

Mr. BROUGHAM tbonght it necessary to say, as many Gen-
tlemen entertained an opinion, from the Bill for the Relief of the
Roman Catholics having been put oft' in a manner so unexpected
and extraordinary on a former evening, its consideration might
again be postponed to.rnorrow, that if the Honourable Member for
Westminster, who had introduced it, be not in his place. lie (Mr.
Brougham) would undertake to more, and he pledged himself to
move its commitment on that day, &she understood the Honour.
ahle Member for Westminster was not unwilling that it should be
taken in its course.

An Honourable Member (Mr. Bawars, we believe) here said,
" Before the Orders ?"
Mr. BROUGHAM
BEER replied, " Certainly, before the Orderi."
DUTIES.

Mr. J. MA BERLY isTdhewasaware;hat the Government had
many applications to reduce duties, but none. lie apprehended.
which rested upon so good a foundation of justice, policy, and
practicability, as that reduction of the duties upon beer which he
now felt it his duty to submit to their attention. A great many
petitions hat! been at various times presented to the House, com.
plaining of the effect of this duty upon the comforts of the poor;—
but, even if there was not one petition before them, he thought
they were bownil to take notice of a state of law so unjust, so im-
politic. and so oppressive, from the professions of liberality of feel-
ing, of a desire to relieve the people from taxation, and of a wish
to do impartial just;re, which had of late fallen so freely from
every side of the house.(llear.)—He was sure, however, that
when he stated the effects arising from the imposition of the present
Duties upon Beer—when lie explained, as he hoped he would be
able to do before he sat down, the cruelty, the inipoliey, and the
injustice of the law as it now stands, that he would have the votes
and support of two Gentlemen—the Chancellor of the Exchequer
and the Right Honourable Secretary for the Home Departine it—
who had repeatedly. in their declarations to that House. expressed
their desire to legislate equally for all classes, and do impartial
justice.—(Hear.)--The votes of those ta o Honourable Gentlemen
he thought lie might tely upon, when he explained the cruel ie.
equality of the present system of Beer Duties, unless they would.
by any arguments cornected with the supposed loss of reve me,
falsify those other srournents which they urged against unequal
taxation.or partial justice; for they must falsify those arguments if
they refused their cut sent to a measure which went to equalise the
burthen of duties upon all classes of the people. He thought it im.
possible the House could understand, or they would have long since
applied some remedy t t the evil, that although the duty of twenty
shillings a quarter on n alt would affect equally both the rich and
the poor, yet from the want of eupital, premises, and time, the
poor were unable to take advantage of the power to brew with that
malt, and therefore the whole tax on beer was paid exclusively by
the poor. He meant to make his stand for the repeal of the beer
duties upon this broad principle, that they were unjust arid unfair,
because partial exactioits; and he trusted, if he was able to prove
that position to their satisfaction, that the Mouse would go along
with hint in desiring their repeal. The present duties upon beer
produced a sum of 3,281,0001., collected at an annual charge of
205.0001.; and he was really at a 10111 to know, how either those
who had made such professions of liberal feeling to the House, or
indeed any others, could reconcile it to their conscience to exact
so large a sum from the poorer classes of society exclusively. By
the present scale of duties, the rich pay 20s. a quarter for malt;
the poor pay 565.; making a difference of thirty-five shillings,
which they must pay, from their inability to brew themselves.
The rich, if they take the bushel as a measure of comparison, pay
!s. 100. per bushel for malt—the poor pay Os. 104 d. Ile knew no-
thing more likely to alienate the minds of the people from Go-
vernment than the consideration of their being subjected to such as
unequal and unjust impost upon the earnings of their labour; and
be thought they were bound by every principle of prudence or
policy either to reduce the duties, or to equalise them so that they
might fall upon all clafietts alike. In either ease he was not afraid
that be would be able to point out to the Chancellor of the Ex.
chequer s means of making up any deficiencies which might arise
from doing that act of justice ; and lie hoped, therefore, they
would not be met by any arguments upon the loss which the
Revenue might sustain front the change. (Hear, hear.) How
much did they suppose the rich paid by the barrel for their beer?
why. ss. 80.; while the poor paid las. 10,1. The rich man, if he
drill' porter, paid about 2d. per pot, while the poor man'
pelt' Aid. And here he would just observe, that the Right
Horourable Gentleman's project last year, to procure the
people what he called a cheap and wholesome kind of beer,
had totally failed, the whole amount of the duties arising
from that measure being only about 15,t100/. ; but, even taking that
beer upon the aanie scale tit duties, the rich would pay for it one
pet ny a pot. while the poor pay nearly double, one and three
farthings. These statements may appear trivial, but it is apparent
from them that the Iliws impose a duty of two or three hundred per
cent. upon the poor more than upon the rich, for that article which
is to the rich a mere luxury, and to the poor an absolute necessary,
and which the House was bound to encourage the poor in consum-
ing, because its effects were so much less demoralizing than those
arising from the use of sprits. The Right lion. Gentleman. it is
true. has said that the poor may brew their own beer ; but did he
recollect that the process of brewing required time, skill, capital,
and space ? Did he reco acct that the greeter portion of the poor
lived in parts of houses, where it was impossible for them to procure
room for the apparatus of brew ng, even admitting that they had
both time. and capita!, and skill at command ; and therefore that
instead of having that option which the Right Him. Gentleman
allowed, they actually had no option at all, no means of avoiding
the purebase of that which was to labouring men absolutely neces-
sary for existence, unless by taking it from the publican at the once
at which the present enomous duty compelled him to sell It ? If the
Right lion. Gentleman preferred, instead of repealing the duties
on beer to equalise the duties on malt, there would be one gre:.t
advantage resulting from the adoption of such u change, thee'
it would save three hundred thousand pounds to the Exchequer
from the collection of duties, because at must be ()brims titre
the same collectors and officers, who now collected 20s. a quarto-,
would be able, with equal facility, to collect ItM. wiuiout any addi-
tional expense, so that the Right Hon. Gentleman would not only
do an act of justice to the poor, but actually save 3f10.000/. to the
Exchequer by that arrangement. lie (lie. Moberly) bail twice
before approached the consideration of this question. In 111•23, he
had moved ter a Committee to inquire into tit_ propriety of giving
up the duties on beer, to lay them on malt. On the following year
be had moved ucatlj a similar proposition, and the House had ne.

BRITISH PRESA.

gatived both, although the projecti in which the Right Hon. Gen.
'lemon was dabbling ha I failed in that and the next year, and there i
were, at that time, petitions from Scotland, stating that they could
not collect the duties. lie had been, and still was, anxious for in.
quiry, because he thought that all important facts were better drawn
forth from inquiries before Committees than in any other manner,
and because he was confident that any Committee. examining evi-
dence upon this subject, would see the propriety of the alteration ha
proposed. After these two failures he would ask, however, whether
it wasaalvisable to continue to move fora Committee, when he was
able at once to show what the House had refused to inquire into,
although he had enforced the necessity of that inquiry for two sue-
ceuive Sessions? Relying, therefore, upon the cage he had made
out. he intended to move now, that after the lot day of January ,
1326, the beer duties should cease and determine. fie had been '
twice told that there was no necessity for inquiry. but he would ask
now, if they intended to continue this system of favouritism, this
disposition to prefer the interests of the poor to the rich, why they
did not carry it through all the other exrisable articles, and make
the duties to the rich difteren: from those to the poor, on tea, or
candles, or leather, or glass, or cotlat ? How would the House treat
a rroposition from the-Right lion. Gentleman to draw out a sche-
dule making a scale of duties of 2 per cent. for the rich, and 6
for the poor. If there were any persons behind the curtain who
supported such a principle, yet dared not avow it, they ought to be
brought forward, that they may be taught they maintain it upon a
false understanding, and that they would pay no more than their
own share of consumption by any alteration. It has been said, too,
that these restrictions upon the brewing of beer are intended to pre-
vent the use of noxious ingredients by private brewers; but if that
principle could be maintained, they must carry it through all other
articles subject to adulteration—tea, spirits, and wine: and why
not, if no other remedy could be adopted, place all publicans at once
under the snme:llance of the police? it they thought,the benefits of
free competition would not counteract all tendency to injure the
quality of beer, wine, or any other articles of consumption. As
to the means of making up the deficiency, lie would either put the
duty wholly on malt or take it out of the Sinking Fund. The
Honourable Gentleman then alluded to the twelve millions added
since 1313, notwithstanding the effect of the Sinking Fund, and
argued from thence the propriety of applying the surplus of revenue
to a more useful purpose. Thews beer duties fell wholly on the
poor of England, because in Ireland there was uo distinction be-
tween rich and poor in their application, and in Scotland beer was
so little used that it could hardly be mentioned. he whole of
these duties, taxes upon labour and the necessaries of life, were
paid therefore by the working classes of our great manufacturing
towns. Looking therefore at the saving of 300,0001. to be effected
by the transfer of this duty on beer to malt. he thought that it
would be just, prudeon'and j olitic, to relieve the working classes
from such a tax on their nicessmry enjoyment, or at all events to
place it on a footing in reduct:on, equal to what they had granted on
spirits, the last article which slould have been relieved from taxation
if they considered its demoraltring effects upon the habits of the
people. The Chancellor of the Exchequer would probably say he
reduced the duty on spirits to prevent smuggling, but would not
tho same argument apply to tea, tobacco, and various other articles
which had not been touched ? Ile (the Chancellor) says, too, that
he continues the restrictions upon the beer trade to prevent fraud,
but did the House see what was the consequence of the manner in
which the Right Hon. Gentleman managed those guards against
fraud ? Why, by making himself and his cAleagues in the
Treasury the brewers of the kingdom, and the regulators of the
price of beer. They must direct and alter at pleasare the price at
which the brewer is to sell, and it a remonstrance is sent in by the
brewers that they must raise the price, the Treasury, whether inten-
tkanally or from the duties of office, delays the reply so long, that
the public are frequently obliged to drink bad beer for two or three
years together, because the brewer cannot get an answer front the
Lords of the Treasury. He contended therefore that they should
not hare such a control unless the House meant to give them the
power to manage the markets, of bread, meat, and all the neces-
saries of life—powers which would bejust as injurious to the trader
and consumer as those ss deprecated in the managenient of beer.
if the Right ilonoureble Gentleman would consent to go into a
Committee, he would not press the present motion ; but if not he
was determined to do so, as he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer)
seemed not disposed to accede to a Committee. The people had
spoken so loudly on this subject, that the Right lion. Gentleman
would be obliged to direct his attention to the subject. lie con-
cluded by movin_g, that the Beer Duty be repealed altogether.
31r. 1111()UGIIA 51, in seconding the resolution of his Honour.
able Friend, felt that he could not add any thing to his very
forcible and luminous statement. The reason which weighted most
strongly wall him in supporting the measure recommended by his
Honourable Friend was that it fell oppressively on the poor classes,
and operated as an exemption from the duty to the upper elutes.
This was owing to the retail trade not being free which sup.
plied beer to the humbler class of the community, whilst the
nets were not subject to that duty, as they brewed thau own
beer. The tax at present wet as oppressive as the Spanish
Alcavala, which was reported to Le the most barbarous mode
of taxation. The sale of beer ougLt to be as free as the sale
of bread, milk, or any other of the necessaries of life, the retail
sale of which was not restricted. By removing the present duty
an inaessed consumption of malt would be the consequence, and
by that means a great quantity of middling ground, which was now
uncultivated, would be applied to the growth of wheat and barley.
ea greit Smprovement would be effected by bringiiig into more
general use this wholesome beverage, and by setting it in coinpeti.
lion with the consumption of gin. lie would hi glad to see the
gin displaced by beer. Indeed if there was any thing in which lie
would be disposed to have the liberty of the subjectanfringed upon,
it would be in the article of ardent spirits. The only reason why
he would consent to tile lowering of the duty upon that article, was
to prevent the great evil—the evil arising from illicit distillation.
As to any defalcation that may for the present be found in the Re-
venue, it would soon be supplied by the increased consumption of
beer, and the consequent increase of duty upon malt. IVhaterer
may be the success of his Honourable Frlenes motion that night,
he hoped that he would persevere in his useful exertions to procure
a repeal of the present duty; front others he might learn for-
tune, from hint (llr. B. labour and patience in his endeavour to
accomplish his object. (bear, hear.)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was certainly
unwilling to go Into a Committee, and for this obvious reason, that
there was nothing fora Committee to inquire into. The question was
plainly and simply this, whether the House would prefer to continue
the present duty on beer, or a substitution for that duty by laying
an increased duty on malt. As to the total repeal of the duty
without any substitution, the lion. Gentleman (Mr. Moberly)
did not seem very earnestly to contend for it himself; and although
his motion now assumed that shape, on a former occasion he
brought forward the question, requiring and recommending only
a substituted duty. The present beer duties yielded to the Ex-
chequer 3,000,0001. In the early part of this Session the Honour.
able Member brought forward a motion for the repeal of the As.
messed Taxes, which yielded only 1,250,0001. The proposition
which he made for that repeal did not meet the concurrence of the
House; and after having tailed in an endeavour to diminish the
revenue to the amount of 1,230,0001. le now makes another effort
to diminish it to the greater amounrof 3,000,000/. (Hear, hear.)
Surely the House, having rejected the former proposition, would
not adopt the latter except on very strong grounds—grounds much
stronger than any be had adduced that evening for its adoption.
Much of what had fallen from the Honourable Member might be
applied to almost any duty. There was scarcely any duty which
was not liable to objection, and which was not attended with some
inconvenience that it would be desirable if possible to remedy ; but
whatever grievance was annexed to the present beer duties would
not be removed by the substitution of a duty upon malt. (Hear.
heal.) The present duty on beer, he had already stated, yielded
3,000,0001. In order to realise an equal sum from the duty on
malt, there should be an increased duty of 2s. a bushel on 30.0(10
bushels of malt. This would necessarily cause an increase of Id.
per quart to the consumer ; and upon a calculation (which was of
easy process) it would be found that the expense to the public
would not be diminished by the transfer of the duty on beer to a
duty on malt. Thais, it was true, did not meet the objection of the
Honourable and Learned Member, that the duty was unequal by
falling chiefly on the poorer classes, who were the principal con.
sumers of this. beverage ; but he (the Chancellor of the Exche-
quer) did not think that they who were the principal consumers of
it could properly be denominated the poor classes, and lie knew
that a great number of families throughout the country parts of
England generally used beer of their own brewing. Besides,
it did no: appear to him (the Chancellor of the Exchequer)
that the rich did not pay equally with the humbler portion
of the community. The beer used by the rich was stronger
than that in use by the inferior order of people, and the in-
creased strength of the beverage occasioned an increase of duty
by the larger consumption of malt and the ingredients of which it
was composed. The calculation by barrels, therefore, as to the dif-
ference of the price paid by the rich and the poor for a barrel of beer.
was an erroneous one. The Honourable Ileadetnan had stated
that he proposed this motion, in order to afford greater facilities to
the cheapness of beer—tbac ke admitted, was a desirable object,
and to efleet it he had proposed a measure to Parliament on the
subject last session. In the progress of that measure he had cape.
rienced considerable difficulty ; and as the lion. and heartiest Gen.
tleanin (Mr. Brougham) had told the lion. Mover to learn
•• forfanom ex alts,,' he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) might
tell him. relative to that measure of last session, to learn—not
rlrtetrus cx tar," but he might safely say, `• verusnqur laboreni,"
(hear, hear,) for he had certainly experienced great embarrassment
in its progress through the House. It was his intention to have
carried that measure further, and to have proposed some alterations
in the mode of collection, which would have had a beneficial effect,
but he vats overruled by the objections of lion. Gentlemen oppo-
site, who endeavoured to turn round and defeat him, by carry-
ing their principle of the repeal of the retail duty. It would cer.
tautly give him much pleasure to take oil' the slaty on beer, and to
include it in the system of relief frotn taxation, which he was de.
sirous to extend and diffuse as widely as possible; (hear,) but lie
(Hear,
h eealiri.e)la
If iie
the must decline committing himself by any imprudent pledges on this
presentmightriostystem aobtlepoaliftc erywwloairksl se m
as Few:Lizette'
he had reason to hope and expect it would, he would be then ready
to tom his attention to the subject, and to afford airy relief of this
duty in his power ; but that relief he wished it to be understood he
was desirous should be given rather in the shape of a reduced duty
on beer, than as recommended by the Hon. Mover by a substitu-
tion of a deity on malt. (Hear, hear, hear.) As to the duty on
spirits, he agreed with the lion. Member (Mr. Brougham), in not
lowering the duty so as to encourage the consumption . • but the rule
taken by Government, was the very one recommended by himself:
namely, to reduce it to that rate whereby it would operate to pre-
vent illicit distillation. It was not by any means to encourage the
consumption of that article ; lie would prefer, indeed, to have re.
duccd the duty on beer, were it not that the other was rendered ne-
cessary to be attended to in the first instance, for the reason he hail
stated. As to the alteration of the duty on wine, it WAS not adopted

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foe the purpose of rendering it cheaper to the higher classes ; but it
was adopted as a measure of commercial policy, ih order to bring
back a consumption which had greatly fallen off since the duty on
wine had been raised. Ile would be glad to he able to extend re-
duction to the duty on beer, but not by a coonnutation for a malt
duty, which would in effect be no relief to the consumer.
Another objection which be had to that commutation was, that the
collection of it was attended with great expense and inconvenience,
both to the revenue and the public. Every means were resorted to
to evade the present duty of !s. fel.; high penalties were conse-
quently exacted; a course, though necessary, yet most unpleasant
and inconvenient. But it', in addition to the present duty, you
add 2s. more, by doubling the duty you double the temptation,
and multiply the inducements to evade the law. He was therefore
adverse to the principle of the substitution of a malt duty for the pre-
sent beer duty ; and under the present circumstances, and for the
reasons he had stated, would feel it his duty to decline going into
• Committee, and to oppose the motion of the lion. Gentleman.
(Hear, hear.)
Mr. BERNAL supported the expediency of going into a Com-
mittee. The difference of prices between the beer of public and
private brewhouses would form a fitting subject of inquiry for
such a Committee. As to the duty on malt, he believed that, as
well as other duties, was pretty f—irly collected. As to private brew-
ing, it did not prevail throughout the country as generally as was
supposed by the Right lion. Gentleman. It might be so in the
county of Lincoln, with which that Right Hon. Gentleman was
connicted, but it was not so in less favoured parts of the country.
The majority of the peasantry and of the people generally through.
out the country drank the beer not of prorate but of public brew-
ing-houses. This would be made apparent in an investigation
before a Committee.
Alf. WODEGOUSE was opposed to the transfer of duty from
beer to malt. The people preferred the beer of public brewing.
houses to that of private, and that was the reason they consumed
it. Th• truth was, it was more nourishing. Ile would leave the
question to be decided in this way.:--scippose the grains from a
public brewing-house and the grains of pa private brewing-house
were placed bei ore a cow or a pig, the cow would prefer the grains
of the private brewing-hoar because the'y were more nutritious.
winch sheered that the saccharine matter way not so well extracted
from the malt in the process of private brewing as in that of public
Crewing. This showed also that the people would prefer the
liquor from which the greatest quantity of saccharine matter was
extracted. The people would theretere continue to give the pre.
ferenee to the beer of the public brewhouse, notwithstanding the
facilities afforded to private brewing.
Mr. HUME, as we understood, attributed the superior process
ofpublic over private brewing to the operation of the present Excise
Laws. Let the duty be repealed, and the encouragement that
would be thus given to fair competition would cause the superiority
to cease. At present the duty was a grievance, on account of its
unequal pressure. The present beer laws had caused a great re-
duction in the consumption of this wholesome beverage. lie bed
looked back to the years 1796 and 1787. and even had gone back
ao far as 1723, whin the population of these countries was not half
;That it was at present. Yet the consumption was greater then,
which could only be attributed to the discouragement to con-
sumption created by the presentabeer laws and high rate of duty.
He was disposed to try the experiment of taking off the tax, for the
purpose of benefiting the revenue.
('ol. DAVIES supported the motion. Many of the necrearies
made use of by the poor were highly taxed, and it was only just to
expect that some portion of the duties imposed on such articles
should be reduced. The proposal before the Reuse was, that the
duty on beer should be transferred to malt. He (Col. Davies)
should prefer a reduction of half the duty on beer, and a transfer
ot' the other half to malt. This, he understood, would produce an
immediate reduction in the revenue of not less titan fital,oool. ; but
the ultimate advantage would wore than compensate fur such a
temporary deficiency.
Mr. C. SMITH deprecated any system which imposed a greater
burden on the poor than on the rich. He hoped the Chancellor of
the Exchequer would muse some amelioration in the present sys-
tem. and in order to induce him to turn his attention to the subject,
he Ole. Smith) would support the motion.
Mr. J. BENETT (Wilt.) objected to the proposal for shifting
the duty from beer to anal . lie would much rather support a me-
tion for the total reduction of the duty. Ile wished that the Hon.
Member for Abingdon (Mr. hi aberly) would point out some man-
ner in which the loss of the later duty could be competniated to the
Exchequer. If the Hon. Member could point out ally such means,
he (Mr. Ramo) would gladly vote for the total repeal of the duty.
By the proposed transfer, he thought the poor man would have less
chance of enjoying the luxury of beer; he therefore objected to the
proposed measure in its present form.
Mr. HERRIES said, it was forilierly the opinion of the House,
that the tax on malt was too burthensoule ; the tax was therefore
placed on beer. Now the opinion of some Honourable Gentlemen
was, that the tax on beer was too burthensome, and that it ought
to be transferred to malt. He could not approve of this vacillating
system. (Hear.) He thought all drawbacks should be avoided,
and that it was advisable to give every facility to home-brewing.
Without home-brewing the consunier would be bound hand and
foot, but this practice is a full security against the monopoly of
brewers. The Chancellor of the Exchequer said, duo when a fit
opportunity arose, he should be happy to propose such amend-
ments in the I eer dudes as circumstances would admit. The
Honourable Gentlemen opposite seemed to consider this observa-
tion as a pledge that the Chancellor of the Exchequer would pro-
pose a repeal of the duties the next Session. If he (Mr. Henries)
understood rightly, the Chancellor of the Exchequer did not
pledge himself, either in this Session or the next, to take the same
view of the queci in as the Honourable Member for Abingdon
(Mr. Moberly) bail .`,ne.
Mr. Alderman WOOD was not satisfied with the motion for a
meatier of the duty on beer, but would rather vote for an (-open.
nient of reducing the duty. If it was found inconvenient to re-
duce the duty altogether., it might lte reduced one halt', or even
lees. If a reduction took place It must increase the consumption,
and he was cons graced the revenue would not suffer to any extent.
lie agreed with thae who thought that the poor In this country
were disproportionably taxed. The duty oo French wines was
taken oft to benelit the rich, and not one chilling of taxes was
taken off this Session, or' promised the next, for the peculiar ad-
vantage of the poor. In conclusion, he would recommend the
Honourable Member (Mr. Maberly) to amend his motion, by pro.
posing a reduction of one-half the duty on beer, without any
transfer of the duty.
Mr. 3IONCK agreed with the Honourable Member who just
sat down, that a reduction of 5a., without any ttansfer, would be
most beneficial to the public. It would be very advantageous to
the consumer, and no great loss to the revenue. Even if at should
diminish the temptation to brew at hoot*, he did not conceive that
this ought to be an objection. If the practice of home brewing was
at an end, the consequence would be, that so many thousand
barrels, which now bring nothing to the revenue, would than return
a certain amount of duty. Doing away the temptation to brew at
home, would also obviate the objection that dilates bears unequally
upon the rich and poor. Rich and poor would then purchase from
the brewer, and of course upon equally advantageous terms. He
hoped the Chancellor of the Exchequer would turn his attention to
the subject. There was little need to fear that a reduction of the
Beer Duties would materially injure the Exchequer. He (Mr.
:11onek) would be well satisfied if he could be assured of five per
cent. on the amount of increase of revenue which would arise due.
ing the next ten years, it' a reduction was now made on the Beer
Duties.

Mr. ROBERTSON said, that in the consideration of this mo-
tion they must remember that it involved taxes to the amount of
;Ali/AWOL The Hon. Member for Abingdon (Mr. Maberly) had
truly stated that the Irish did not pay this tax ; but the House
must remember that where the Irish labourer earned 6d. per day,
the English earned halt a crown. He would beg leave to call the
attention of the Chancellor of the Exchequer to the Onduct of
France and the United States, whn had, instead of taking off taxes,
paid off large portions of their debt, and thus laid the foundation of
their present 2rosperity. He, for his part, so far from voting for
the abolition of the Sinking Fund, would a ish that more attention
was paid to it.
Mr. C. PEL.UAM thought that the alteration would not be
beneficial to the poorerclasses, and should therefore vote against the
motion.

Hr. J. SMITH would not detain the Haute, but wished to
Mate his views on ebbu subject, that the course he was going to take
might not be thought inconsistent with what had always been his
opinions with regard to the Sinking Fund. If this measure were
carried, the delictency, if any ' in the Exchequer would easily be
supplied by other n*ans. A duty on malt generally, for example,
he should not object 'to; end he did not think the present motion
could be implied to be a covert attack on the Sinking Fund. Ile
thought that if there were the least chance of the subject being
taken into consideration at say time his Honourable Friend (Mr.
hlaberly) would consent to withdraw his motion for the present.
The Hoe. Member concluded by saying that he considered him-
self bound in equity to support the motion.
Mr. MABERIX expressed his regret at the non.attendanee
of those Members who might be supposed to be most interested in
the discus/ism. With respect to what had been urged against his
motion, he must say that he had rot yet heard any thing like an
answer to the schedule he bad produced, showing the scale of
duties. It had been asserted that the expense of collection would
not be saved; but he must contend that it would be saved ac-
cording to the 'hewing of the documents of those who denied it.
Several Hop. Member, had said they would vote with hint, if he
proposed such and mush alterations ; but he thought he should not
stand acquitted in the eyes of the country if tic did not press his
motion as it then stood. Ile hoped it would not be long before
petitions from every part of the country would come dosing in,
Fraying fir just and mull representation.
he House then divided. when there

to appeared—.
!train's the motion, 83—For it, 23—Majority against it, O.

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The motion was conseattently negatived.
WRONBOUS 131 PIUSON AI ENT IN SCOTLAND.
Upon oar entrance into the Gallery we found Mr. GRANT
upon his legs, moving for leave to bring in his Bill to alter and
amend the law of Scotland regarding AVrongous Imprisonment
and the Delay of Trials. Ile regretted that tins question had not
fallen into better hands. There were certainly many material
defects in the law of Scotland, 'high he thought his Dill. if he ob-
tained leave to bring it in, would remedy. ills principal object
• as to throw a greater degree of responsibility on the Magistrates
sho committed a crhninal to prison; also to Increase the power
of the JudL:es in the Criminal Courts, in order that the liberty of
tl e subject might be more duly protected ; and lastly, to remove
tl e doubts and difficulties that at present existed, and to enable the
p o man to take his trial upon an equal footing with the rich.
'I it, lion. and Learned Gentleman then proceeded to show the
present insufficiency of the Scottish law on these subjects, in
the course of which he stated, that as the law of Scotland now
stood. a person might he in prison one hundred days before he was
brought to trial. There were a cent many uncertainties in the

present law which ought net to be allowed to remain, dr the....
sorer himself, or the pro.ecotor., did not bring on his trial. t kr;
was no means of his bet. e. discharged, and he might truaiLe
prison for ever. They had en means in Scotland of sr H abeas Corpus ss in England. The evil however fell mare 1;r-7
poor, who were not able to pay the expenses incurred by thj‘:l:ll.lites
and by the charges fur letters and copies of Indictments. Hsi;-
tention was to have the Bill brought up r.nd read a first Ctn.
then printed, and the second reading postponed until coptia"etl-
- had been sent down into Scoannd, and taken into consi,t,,..
by persons who were competent to speak of its probable.etlY•"l
'rlie Honourable and Learned Member then moved tor delve
bring in a Bill for the purposes he had stated. t,
The LORI) ADVOCATE of SCOTLAND said, tint the Art
of 1701, to which the motion of the Honourable and Lr-e,t
Member referred, was considered as the Habeas Corpus ;• nt
Scotland. It was an Act which had stood uncomplented
the country for upwards of a centur,..and a quarter, and he Mon I
that his Honourable and Learned }riend would therefore rt",;
well the alterations which he was about to propose with regard
an
Act of that description. In Scotland the prisoner was smiled :et,
brought to trial within GO days. and he could then deliand to
tried, and if not tried within 40 days after the expiration or ie.
days, he might go forth out of the prison, and could tun be take- ,t
the same offence any more. He had heard it said that !I:is Atnj.
short of the English Haanbeadusthrto'isoindrmpuigslA.letcncotortuib be
,urnhojetti nibi•notte
the Act of 1701 afforded to the people of Scotland more seventy
the Habeas Corpus Act did to the people of this cour.trr;
from
ie
th.welasstisinzcies:nh:teer asmwilvttssled, in
imprisoned
and in some cases even
the witnesses for the prosecution were not ready, he cutild
which-,,;!
tried till the nest Assizes, might not be till sit rn0n.....t
more. Now 100 days was the longest period to which a re.—
trial could be postponed in Scotland. Besides, the bane': y; .
Habeas Corpus Act was merely to admit to bail ; but in •• .
instead of bail, after the 100 days had elapsed. the prison,
walk out of prison, never to be tried at all, lie hor:a
Honourable and Learned Friend therefore would not di,p—
with the Act of 17111, but move only to amend and not to repeal
If he understood his Hon. and Learned Friend, he w.•.th. t ..1
mai:
it imperative that the prisoner should be tried within forts data ere.
ter his commitment. But he (the Lord Advocate; should submit
to the House that they were bound to afford a su nitre for
vestigation before the prosecutor should be compylleil Sr brine .•
prisoner to trial, and if that time was limited to to days it we I
not be sufficient, and it would also bring all causes to he
Edinburgh, which would occasion a great eseeese to the
and would be most injurious to the prisoner hini•Of,
also cost the country from 15,000 L to:10,00ot a year. ii r
the question of the greatest importance, aid then. e
~!
Hon. and Learned Friend would amend Lis motion as I.c!
the liberty to suggest.
Mr. ABERCRO3IBV considered the subject in nes-
great importance, and hoped it would meet with a cool and
sionate consideration on the pan of the House. lie ogre. I
the Learned Lord that it would be much unite desirable for
Hon. and Learned Friend to make his alterations in the 1,..te :‘i
amendments to the present Act, rather than by repealing tine: Aft
' and enacting another. He hoped that what the House should
would be something of permanence, and he did anticipate the rt,ah
of his Hon. and Learned Friend's labours would entitle him to the
I gratitude of hie country.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL agreed with what had been said
by the Hon. and Learned Gentleman who had jitst sat dolt. lie,
however, apprehended that the alterations of the present law of
Scotland could not take place without the assistance of the rerus,
who, by their offices in that country, were peculiarly competent to
judge on the subject. Ile agreed that there were some con-
siderable discrepancies in the law of 1701, and there were also seine
in the Habeas Corpus Act of England, and he shitild nave no oh-
jection to see them assimilated; having himself had his mien.
tion drawn to the subject, he should have no ohiectiot: to render
what assistance he might be able to gin: to his Dore and Learned
Friend (Mr. Gant.) The range into which his lion. and Learned
Friend had led them, being no less than the prac:i:e of the etinn.
nal law of England and of Scotland, was too wide to enter into at
the present moment; but he would observe, that thzy trust net
regard the law as it affected the prisoner altogether ; there was tee
convenience of the public to be likewise consulted ; but his Hon.
and Learned Friend seemed to have looked on one side only. lie
would repeat, the; he was ready to give what assistance he could
in framing the Bill to be brought in, premising. however, that it
seemed to him the best mode to proceed would be to confine
the measure to the amendment of the Act of 1701.
Mr.,DEN3I.I.N observed. that it gave him great "satisfaction to
hear his Ron, and Learned Friend (the Solicitor-General) tender
his able assistance, which his acute mind would entre-der him to
give in promoting the measure which It was on all hands admitted
was necessary. lie thought that the i-reposition to repeal the Act
of 1701 would have a very startling effect, because, however faulty
it might now be, it was passed for the best purposes. At the same
time it must have appeared, from what had been said, that there
was something wrong an the law as it at present stood, and that it
was very desirable something should be done, and the time fen
doing it was certainly most fortunate, because it would show that
it arose not from any clamour or 11l feeling, but !ruin 3 cool and
dispassionate consideration of the subject.
The motion was about to be put by the Speaker. when
Mr. J. P. GRANT rose, and said, that with the libels-, of the
Howie he would adopt thei suggestion of the Learned Lord. !•y
altering the words of the motion. It was his intention to hate r.•
inserted all the clauses which In the Act of 1701 were
sizable to be preserved, and he was sorry if he had
03141 C himself understood upon the subject. Hie wish en,
that all passible time, consistent with the liberty of the gni..y:l.
be given for the purpose of bringing offenders to ju:•,.e.
After some further observations, the Honoursbk Memlen sa-,
that every one must feel the manifest goad likelyy to result
many Bills lately brought in by his Majesty's Government.
Leave was then given to bring in the Bill.
CRI'ELTV TO ANIJIALB.

Mr: R. MARTIN moved for leave to bring in the Rill which he
meant to Introduce; it was prepared by the Atter:rev General him-
self. Its object was to punish such persons as maliciously cut or
mains—an offence certainly more heinous than the act of in hid:.
ney 'coachman, who merely cuts his hone with a whip. The
cruelties he meant to guard against were those punishable by death
under the Black Act, and his Bill only made them misdemeancurs.
The lion. Member then moved for leave to king in a Biil to ev.
tend the provisions of 3 George IV. chap. 71, to prevent the crud
and improper treatment of cattle.
Oa the question being put from the Chair,
Mr. SecretarytPEEL did not mean to oppose the rented, as
it was approved of by the Attornev-General. He begged of .4(
Honourable Member to introduce all his objects in the next
that the House may see at once all his view, on that subject. iio
begged of him to make up his mind as to how far he oxcart
in the legislation for the brute creation. (Hear, heat.) If :he 1:
Member's Bill were to pass, be wished to know whether a maa
might not be punished for cropping his horse's ears, itlaS-11W:h 34
the horse was not a consenting party to the niuti!at ?
Mr. F. PALMER read some extracts from the Stalute, the pm.
visions of which the lion. 31embcr for Galway (Mr. Martin
sought to extend. The extracts contained a long catalogue
animals protected under the Bill. The lion. Member cons:der,...l
the list sufficiently comprehensive to answer all the ob;ects wh:c •
the Hon. Member for Galway wished.
Mr. R. MARTIN said that this Bill contained nothing ra4t
eluded in the Black Act; there was no offence created by it t
men bad not been repeatedly executed for (grea. Laui;.;:er). and
which they might now be transported.
After a few words from Mr. Secretary PEEL, leave was g.ven tc
bring in the Bill.
ADM I SISTRATIONT OF JUSTICE—IRELAND.
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Mr. PLUNKETT moved for leave to bring in a 15111 lot t".•
amendment of the laws with respect to Special Juries 3:al ir• 2s
in Ireland The Bight lion. and Leaned Gentletnan said, r
one of the objects of the Bill was to give the Crown the pas • :
having certain criminal offences in Ireland triad before a Sp2olil
Jury at its option: that power was then by the fro:in in
England. The other object of time Bill' 7: *, 710 enable the Cout:
to have the trial removed to an adjoining county. under comma
circumstances. This alteration in the present law of 1re13...d
was merely an assimilation to the law as it than stood in Er.e7a- '
3lr. DENMAN hoped a power would be given to the di 1,-..117:
to pray a Mks, as well as the Crown. lie suggested to tho
Hon. Gentleman op;msite (Mr. Secretary Peal), the propriciy o:
introducing a similar provision in the Bill.
Leave was then given.
BRADFORD GAOL.
Mr. J. SIUITII moved for Copies of the Corresponderroo
took place between the Secretary of State for the Home Dopo.tt-
ment and the Lord Lieutenant of the West Riding of Verlo .are.
' respecting certain abuses and misconduct committed in Bradt,.:
gaol. The Hon. Member, after a few observations, said the :as.•
which gave rise to his motion was that of an individual trro •••
arrested, and afterwards broke loose front the constahle;
again taken into custody, lodged in the gaol, and by thiio.ii.l
of the Bailiff who undertook to discharge the duty of tiro
an old iulirm man, the prisoner had his legs and hands load.„1
irons, and for seven days they were not removed ; his 1..,
bail that he must have perished but for the humanity ,1
low-prisoners. The irons were taken off only durirg tho I is:••••
terval of a few 1111111110, whilst his shirt was being changed. I ;
miscreant who was the instrumcni of this barbatlly trio.::
it, convicted and suftbred. The lion. Member prooee.ltd to-
mark on the abuses frequently committed in places a lyre 3 he
jurisdiction existed ; they were generally tiles:Ante:of .•
At the same time he was free to admit that a great in l rov.l:-C
halt taken 'lace in the discipline of prisons through the
tins lie could state front Ins own knowledge, as he hat ••••••••
almost every public prison in England.
Mr. Secretary PEEL did not object to the moti.i7. t••
thing that tended to throw light on the subject. It a oti hi he • n •'•
he was sure, that although the conduct of the Lurd 1.2. ,:•ir;rl ••'•••
served praise, he (31r.P.) was anxious that Zilagistruis
themselves of the power they now posseasal, es terwarilirg
'toners to the county gaol; such a couraebsdeasea pursue' in Ears
with good Meet. VI all respect to local " was
dined. perhaps. to go farther than the flonouraLle Member.
thought it better that they should merge is the superior C.:IT:-
Such an alteration he thought would tetid to 'purity ine
tam of justice.
Mr. A BER 1-1R0311.11. wished to sec jurisdiction taii:.•
away from loud Courts in capital cases. Ile au sure :he bee:
means of effectually curing the existing abuses would be tile al"
pointnieut of a Commission to inquire minutely into all the ile:3.i,
of the subject.
The return was then ordered.
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