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said his Royal Highness was be thoroughly sensi-
ble of his conduct, that there was nu dauger of his
'felting into the like error; for his part, lie was late
to say, he had no such confidence; opsiirt all these
grounds he thought the Address was right. After
however basing belled evidence at their Bar, aAd
after every defence the activity of agents nod the
zeal of Counsel could devise, it 'was hued to say,
after all this, that they should be called on to bring
it to another
Mr. Caoeea began by animadverting upon what
had fallen, last tight, Ervin an Host. kfiroliet. op-
posite, who, he thought, had been rather profuse
and indelicate in his ailwoiiitiou to certain ( ;tttle-
men of the Long Robe, on his (the Alioistefial)
side of the House. If he were to presume, on his
part, to Mier au advice, he sl hi say, that alike
he hail often hearth that Don. Baronet with plea-
sure on grave and serious subjectso et, he thought,
he was led quote so successful when he aimed at
pleasantry. 'f he Crown Lawyers, so far front 'w-
ing incompetent to judge or such a ease as this,
were unquestionably the moat iff of ell others in
judicial matters, even in that House, from their
great practice in Courts of Las. As the Hon.
Baronet seemed to disapprove of the Crown Law-
yers expressing their upluisms, so as to thwart or
bias the seta Minns of others, be would wish to ask
whether it sus not also probable, that he, be..
ing acundidate for u seat in Parliament in the
rummer he was, would not be equally a means
of influencing and biassing his opinion upon such
a question us the present ? Lie thought lie was
more likely to have some' judgment and argument
from those who had practised in Courts of law, than
from those OW practised at the knifings at Breut-
fool and Covent-Carden.—(A very loud laugh
Gentlemen might laugh ; but although he spoke
thus of biassing and influencing the votes of the
House by a free statement of sentiments, lie was
not vain enough to solipose that any tiling he could
illy could ha...e that effert. ( Bear ! Aeor !) There
was one question which he wished to putt to that
Hon. Baronet, arising from whet the witueas Dono-
van had stated, and to that lie should wish to
have an answer. Donovan had said Mrs. Clarke
had informed him, that the lion. Baronet and aim-
ther person had offered her money for the produc-
tion of the papers and letter in her custody, rela-
tive to these charges. lie was .it at first inclined
to believe what Donovan had so stated concerning
the Honourable Baronet, from the Iliimatit man-
ner in which that witness gave lin es idence.
and his willingness to blacken Mrs. Clarke's
character ; hut when he foutid hitu reluctant to
state that circumstance concerning the Don. Bart.
be was the more inclined to credit luau throughout
all his.tostimosij. ; and upon that point, in oar:wit-
hin. he should do so, until he heard the I Bart.
himself eolitradict the assertion. Mrs. Clarke had
mated precisely the name tint); in 11.-r hater to
Mr. Admit, except that she does Oar value 11/r
Gen:AMU/ell; for is it she hail stated, that nnkas
her demands were complied with, she had promised
to give the papers up to Cientleineu, and mg to
publishers ; arol %hat thme 60141111 CD were just as
positive as the Duke of York himself. Mr. Cris. •
kyr then spoke at considerable length, and at-
tempted to invalidate the testimony of Mrs.
Clarke, as well s sof all the other %titan:saes who
corroborated her testimony monist the Oldie of
York ; and vaucluded with aiming, that he should
not vote for any Address that would tempuvisuise
the opinion of the Untie. 11., sets sure tint the
Dome was much tuvolvtd its ley the
number of motions before them, and that none,
(not even excepting the Speaker himself) could
know what was the course most proper to he
adopted.—(load cry rf Order. Order fur
hispart, thought that the House ought first Leconte
to a decision upon a stipple queatioa, that should
entitle them to say Aye or No to the guilt or k-
not-suet ad's. Royal Duke:and tint; Wally Address
at all eat to be voted, it should be inure pointed
Address than any proposed Address of condoinice
congratulation to His Majesty t Lcsaghtee).
Geotleinen might still treq his sentiments with
ridicule, het if it were necessary to explain his
etwieiiiig, it was, that they should not only conilule
with Ilia Majesty, that toe Duke of' York should
have formed such a connexion, hut elan congratulate
our Sovereign, that nn criminal co iiii ivance could
attach to his flu% al Son iu these itifamous trans-
:lololP. Indeed of uo.:lt au Address, the one now
submitted to them would merely tend to sliew
that the I tome of
Coin nuns were—

'4 Willing to sronnst, nod yet afraid to strike;
Thee haw a toot, and hesitate dislike."
Sir F. BvILDEFT, In e‘plallatiori, nod in answer
to the Honourable :Nleinber's que.tion, swish he
should always to el himself quite disposed to gratify
even the curiosity of any Member, however dis-
orderly it might be to pot such questions as that
mos put to him. The tootle of putting that ques-
tion to him inferred almost a refusal to reply, toe
if he (Sir F. Bordett) had actually retired alai
some of the public money in hie pocket, or that
lie ?tad !wen concerned in giving istonvy to conceal
a great public grievance. of the nature colorised
in the charges now before them. fie did not,
however, feel disposed to reply with any acrimony
to sorb insinuations, but certainly only with a view
to satisfy the Honourable Gentleinati, and he had
therefore to state, that im such circumstance as his
offering money In Mrs. Clarke did ever take place.
Mr. Heater ILerty said, be war surprised to
hear a Hight Hon. and Learned t.iciatleroait oppo-
site (the Solicitor-Ceueral) object to the present
proceedings, npi.n the ground that the House of
Commons had la, right to be sitting upon tile trial
of a per:tall iu the Duke of York's situation. Did
that Learned (7, nt. not know that the House of
Coinnlolll4 stood 111 SUi anomalous situation in such
cares 114 the pre-slit They did not, as in other Tn.
loolials, net by any particular 1111(41 us to evidence ;
Every Mall that was accused. by tlirm stood be-
fore them for trial, mid twilit if he ehose coins and
state h's defenee. They had all the ;rower. that
runld lie compri..sti j;i n public fillactitill:lll.), for
whit would be their use if they were to feel thetn-
selves fettered as a Cried Jury? If they could not
thus pPss sentence of emideintiation on person., hold-
ing hi..zh and , espooriblo public situations, lie shou Id
isegladto know tip onwhat principle they could act?
Upon what ground could the King dismiss such
ladividuals front the public service, except upon
evidence adduced before the House of Commons ?
This was not a 111/lel case, fur there hhd occurred.

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repeatcaly precedents le itiO:ty their present , 4.:
duet. Ile might refer the hoot Hatt. end o-
ed Getatleintto to times soon utter she itevoiut:ott
times that were hettcr a.laott.tt thau the prit,eut lot
tiseertstaing the jest m41)1,1.1:11 pritittgt• of the
Cottititution. lie al-istte.l to he pmettdit,,;. „t
that liouse opoo the i'arhtioat 1,-r0dy,,,;.W1111..1.115ey
itivestigatql Joel:met:lA sort es:v.olml wstate,ists,
not u!tot: oath; ailli kV hid e 113:010.1 4&i they repo,
to ?. .14titt.s asitlrritertl kis Newirt.ty to•reamose tritto
his council's far ever' Lord guinera sad the two

other Noble Lord', mentioned iu that nc)Ore,v. tjo
%%hut grontiat dai they propped, &mil did tleey stup
there ; thvy thought that Ora crimes stesit
ruither than they could Itssaissh, stild airy !Is ohue
ruled ass inspenehuseut. war put (hope tut
niter they hul Irc.at.d a aeutruee of coailtusual ~,,,
the nuod severe chest they cosahl ; awl ).t
the ilonourul,le suni Learned (I.:Wlttmisis had loud,
why did the lioutbe proceed to condemn oiti,
nut tvidence.?r niikl oh) not send the Duke, of
Yolk music:di:o.cl,, to *viol ? for it would ha (letter
to idols 11w Royal Doke to the heart at !nice, th.v.
a.lvive lilir M 4. a ty to him from 1);:i carmen.
for ever.' Waq not Lord Somerv, nodose other.,

possessed of feelings as well as the Duke ot ,1 to k
If so, were they not equally and sufficutiitty %%so-
raided in advising Ws Misjisty- to dismiss from
the head of the army 1 Had die Houses iu doing
this. ntfused to hear the Illastnous personage
that was Itrouglit before them, that'right stilt
existed. It was only yellow notionsand prejudiced
education that could essouilate the ruleiebe whteli
Parliament were to be regulated, to thune of other
Courts of Law ; fur he knew of no fixed rule, by
which Parliament wits to be re,..auleted. They had
heard a ;peat deal of the rights and privileges of
the Duke of York ; hut was it therefore to lie ima-
gined, that because that Royal Personage enjoyed
privileges, there were none also enjoyed by the
House of Common*? or that they- Could net by
virtue of the Coristitation deprive bhn of. dein?
The HOW* had received advice lint to provoke
any of the Constituted Authorities, fur fear of their
own existence, but not a word had been said by
those who gave such advice, relative to the rights
and privileges of the House of Commons. lie
should arguethat it was not only a right, but it was the
boundeu duty ofthe-House of Gorainniet to prosecute
every inquiry of tins sort, in the way they had lotted
their forefathers act; and that they were not to o.:ierl-.
lice their rights, from the consideratitio of the high
rank arid station of the Illustrious Person accused.
It might be said, with the precedeut of. Lord So-
mers before them, why not impeach the Duke of
Yolk ? To that he should answer, that where
they hail a puorslimeat comineasitrate to the of-
&rice, -the most proper way Of proceediug was to
inflict that punishment. Why did they in any
case impeach ? It was because the offence was
one w:iich tlicy could not otheraise tesneily.
If there were no other mode of inflictilig that
punishment which appeared adiiuute to the ut.
fence, then they must at once have reeouyse
toinspenchment. The Crown -Lawyers had taken
very extraordinary objectiows to the witnosees•;
upon the principle that the House were to con-
fine ihrtusevts entirely to the Pules of Courts
Of Lai ; but it was truly reinarkshle to find tii.tt
they applied these objetimns tri- all those who were
nroducesl es Witnesses in support of the Charges,
hut not to these that were called to contradict
:hem—lt may be said that this testimony is not
upon oath ; they could hate eau to of those Contra-
dictiotss which were alleged to exist ; and he was
convinced they would not exist; were this matter
coining to fUrther investigation. Every Witness
who conics tolhe examined in a cause, has been in-
term.,,mtett previously as to the matter at issue ; but
the Witnesees wino retest, to that House, in such a
question as this. did not come prepared to state
particulars with such accuracy, as, upon farther le.
collection sad preparation, they might Lie enabled
to do. For iilltallee. Mrs. Clarke had 1101. cows
prepared to state how wetly times she had visited
Mrs. Favery. lie was surprised to hear the Hon.
and Learned Judge opposite (Mr. I:urton) state
matters which chewed evidently that he Lad blot-
ted every thing nut of his memory which he moot
have teemed and live practised in his official du-.
ties. It had not yet been stifficieuily explained be
these I...anted Lawyers, what was actually the im-
probable part of the testimony ; for his part, •'lte
could not help thieking there was nothing at all
improbable in it ; for When he looked into the let-
ters of the Duke of York that were produced, he
discovered fully as much improbability in threw
as in the whole statements of Mrs. Clarke. it woe
upon the conviction of her testimony, coos
pled with those of Mite Taylor and Mr.
Howler. by which it was corroburated, that he
would •he induced to give the vote he in-
tended to giie, namely, fur the original Address.
It would be unnecessary. and indeed a waste of
time, to• restate the evidence. and therefore be
should only observe, Cud, as to Dowler, he lied a
right to say lie stood uncontrielicted. As to the
case of Dr. O'Meara, be could hardly take, woe%
himself to say what a :is done; but it was evident.
that through Mrs. Clarke he was put iu a snitatiott
in which he *ea likely to be promoted. 'I he hst
time lie had heard the espression pokular claniour;.
it was one that origiuided widein these walls, and
was disseminated throughout the county), as it;
suited the particular party purposes of the present.
Minister..—/Hirer! hear! bear!) Vint splice
hreLfwrn aggin id:tided to, he could nut help
lags that the public have a feeling Illicit this suns
jeet ; and he mi4ht ask, was the ',oldie tetlin4
,be despised upon such evidence? lie knew v. c.i:
that it was the mite', and not the situation, that
created the indepeteience of men ; and it wse
fieient for him to know, that he supported this Ad-
dress from a firm conviction that the evidence ad'
&Wed TIS to these charges was sulietainially true,
and clearly evinced that the Duke of 1 iirk dry
connive at these corrupt practices, and therefore
ought not to be retained longer in his present si-
tuation.
The SotictTott•Grvenet. explained.
Mr. Rose ...I, that he would occupy the time-
of the !louse bnt fora few moments. Ha had pre-
pared hien-. if to "Trek to many points of the evi-
dence, and would have begged their attention fur a
longer spare, if the slate end perspicuous merino
in which it was nlirAdv treated by' his Hight Him.
Friends, did not multi it ecesitry,
unpardonable, for laiikt to tctrat ti whet their Wel
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