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stead of it, " That 40,0001. be granted, instead o f
1113,94,11. st. mi.; mowed by the Noble Lord."
On this the Committee divided, whets there spa
peered
Fot Mr. flame's Anseadwiset
For the °dente! Raislation lid
Majority
Ott the RWicilution for granting 25.3ner.
fur the General end Staff Officer. in Ireland—
Sir Hera". PAansu. rose. He complained.
that the establishment of the Commander of the
Forces in Ireland was of the most extravagant de.
wriptiOn. It appeared there were more Generals
employed with the 20,000 men in Ireland than
with the. 27,000 men in England, and its that re-
spect a degree of unnecessary expense was incurred.
—He thought it desirable thin the Committee
should reprobate the system of separate establish-
ments, and separate expense which followed ; it
prevailed not only in this, but in other depart.
menta; for example, in the Barrack Deportment,.
and was productive of much mischief. He titougist
that reductions might be made of the salary of t
Commander-In-Chief, his Aide.de-Cantp, &c. He
should therefore propose as en amendment, that
instead of 25,3841. 13). 10d., 20,4791. should be
substituted.
The question being put—
Lord Panicarrow row and said, it was the in.
teution of Government to reduce the Lieutenant- i
General, leaving on the establishment in Ireland
only the Commander of the Forces and four Majors-.
General. If the reduction proposed by the Hon.
Bart. wereagreed to, there would be four Mejore-
General left, without any superior to keels them in
union,. The communication between Dublin end
London was necessarily one of uncertainty on ac-
count of the sea interposing, it was also one of de-
ley on, iiccount of the distance, and considerable
iecoevenience must arise to the service if there was
no officer in Dublin invested with a power of issu-
ing orders at discretion as occasion might require.
without waiting for the result of a communication
with the Commander-in-Chief in London. The
question then would he, whet should be the rank
and allowances of such officer? IVheit it was you.
sidered that there was an army of 17,000 men, lie
thought it would be adiniited by any person coo-
versant with military affairs, that it was a command
requiring an officer of higher rank than s Major-
General ; arid the scale of allowances, he thought,
could not be considered as its any degree ap-
proaching to excess, when it was remembered that
lie was under the necessity of ke-ping a large
establishment, and a table for the entertainment of
such officers as might be in Dublin from time to
time.
Mr. Hume begged to call the attention of the
Committee to the establishment of the Adjutant.
General's department; the number in Ireland was
eight, for au army of 17,000, while in Great
Britain it was only four, for an army of 24,004, its
the Quartenuaster-Generarr department. the
number oo the Irish establislimeet „five: in
Great Britain it wag now only four. it, Great
Blitain, where, in MelJlllOll to the clothing for the
army of 24,000 men. there was to be inspected the
eluting% for the regiments stationed in the Colonies.
there were but two inspectors of clothing, and in
luetsod there were also two, to inspect the cloth-
ing of 17,000 well, at an equal expense to the
country. The Medical Stuff in Ireland was also
on a larger scale than that of Great Britain;
and these was this extraordinary difference, lbw
all the Deputy Inspectors in Great Britain
but one, were now on half-pay ; but in
Ireland all but one were on full pay—(hear, hear,
hear)—and that of those on the British establish-
ment, all had been on foreign service, sharing
in the chances of the ear, but none of those on
the Irish establishment had ever set foot out of the
country except one, who went to Gibraltar for
a few months to qualify him for an appoint-
ment on the British Medical Staff.—/Died cries
of Hear, hear, hear.)—The Noble Lord had esker'.
if the Inspectors were reduced, what would be-
come of the hospitals? In reply, he would ask.
what had become of them in England Hear,
hear./—The whole eipense of the Medical Staff
in Ireland; which was now stated et 4.3451., ought
to be reduced to 1,9001. He was sorry, therefore,
that the Hon. Baronet had not proposed in les
amendment a still greater reduction. He would
have advised the Honourable Baronet to move, ra•
then than the Comenstider of the Forces, that Ave
of the Adjutant-General's, and three of the Quar-
termaster-General's department, should lie reduced,
and if to that were added the reduction lie had
mentioned on the Medical Staff, the sating would
be more considerable.
Lord l'aessaastux maintained, that although
the number of troops in Ireland was smaller thaw
in Great Britain, yet that the dilfereoce in that
local distribution, their stations being so wade, ten-
dered a larger Medical Staff necessary than if
they were more concentrated, Me in England. The
Irish establishment, he also contended, was met
exempted front foreign service any more then that
of Great Britain, but took its equal chance of
being appointed fur foreign service with the Mitres.;
Mr. WAilla spoke in support of the reduction
proposed by Mr. Home.
Sir H. l'immata. contended that a Lieutenant-

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General, with one Deputy Adjutant-General, sod
one Deputy Quartermaster-General would imam *
• Staff fully sufficient fur else service in latload.
Sir G. HILL maintained dna is the present state
of Ireland • large Milit.iry Stall• was Necessary.
lie the last year it was iouwl that the gewend
did not contain one individual more than was re-
quisite. The only economy he thought pr•cric.bl.-.
would be the annexing the Commandership of the
Forces to the Lord Lieutenantcy.
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Mr. O'GILADY said, he did not nteau to object
to the supply necessary be the maintroance of the
torce which Parhameut had thought proper to vote
fur Ireland, but he must object to the attaching of
places to the army, which were steady sitiererea,
end which brought it into disrepute. Such he con-
ceived were the appointments of Comasauder of
the Forces, the Adjutant-General with his Depu-
ties mot Amistants. end the Querteeoaetrr•Ge.
nerel'a Deputy and Aeauttants ; he should there-
fore feel it his duty to vote for their removal. and
be hoped a nitwit's' would be made to that effect.
Mr. C. GRANT said, he would abstain from re-
peating those arguments which had before been
itrgtd in support of the Estimate•, and twilit* him.