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The Marquis of LoKDOINDMIRT mid, he was
not aware that such a document was in his posses-
riot, tint if it was ire should have no objection to
produce it.
RUSSIAN DUTIES.
Mr. Bartirat. wished to know from the Noble
Lord if the result of the negotiation respecting the
Rominn duties had been yet received, as a cassia
derable modification was expected.
The Marquis of LoavouDaltßY said, the result
had not yet arrived, but he had the satisfaction to
state that the latest accounts were favourable.
OPHTHALMIC CONIMITTIL
The Hon. H. G. Bum Kerr moved, that the evia
deuce received before the Ophthalmic Committee,
whirls induced them to recommend a grant to Sir
William Adams of the sum of 4,0001. should be
printed.
The Marquis of LONDONDIRILY said, the esi.
derive received was so voluminous that it would
cost 1,0001. to have it printed. All the meatiers
of that Committee wile of opinion that something
should be granted. The Hon. Gentleman himself
thought that 3.0004 should be granted, and is)
order to make it up 4,0001. he moved that the en.
deuce be printetL
Mr. Bastrarr explained.
Lord PALNERaTON objected to the printing:
first, on account of the expense; and, secondly.
because that, if the matter were suffered to rest
just where it was, it would of necessity extinguish
the feud. which' so disagreeably had prevailed upon
the whole subject.
Mr. FORBIN said. that he would vote for the
printing, in hopes that the expense of 1,000/. would,
by being laid out in that way, save the other 3,000/,
Ste R. Fxinusux agreed in opinion with the
last speaker, and trusted that the House would not
adopt the recommendations of the Committee.
Colonel WOOD said a few words.
Mr. H. G. Basuxrr was contented. as there
was to be no advance made of any money on the
recommendations of the Committee, to withdraw
his motion.

MILITARY ESTABLISHMENTS.
The Marques of TA VISTOCE wished to put •
question to the Noble Marquis opposite respecting
the unusually large force which, as it was rumour-
ed, was to be.eneaged in attendance on the coro-
nation. He could not help being of opinion, con.
sidering the flattering marks of respect and loyalty
which, by the accounts of the NolSl Marquis, had
been paid from all parts of the country. that such
a measure would be wholly unadvionble. He wish-
ed, therefore, to ask the Noble hlatquis, if it was
the intention to follow former precedent. with re-
spect to the number of troops to be employed ou
the day of the coronation ?
. The Marquis of Loons:mogul' said, that he
.was not acquainted with any precedents to which
Ministers could appeal in such a case; but he
would assure the Noble Marquis, that whatever
should be done in that ceremony, would be done
with a view to honouring Hear, hear.)
The Marquis of TsvlsTocx apologised. If he
had used any uugracious expiessious, he had done
it with reluctance, and from a strong sense of public
duty. He had one more question to ;sot. It ap-
peared by recent dispatches Irma St, Helens, that
the death of Bonaparte had certaiuly taken place.
The Noble Marquis had very recently boasted of
the good humane and perfect repose in whiCh the
country was at present placed. There could no
longer be any reason* so strong as those which were
said before to have existed for keeping up 1.0 large
a military force. The country might reasonably
expect a large reduction of the military force. He
wished, if posaible, to know when, and to what
amount, it was likely to take place ? After the
wars in which the Duke of Marlborough contended
with the measures of Louis XIV. eleven or twelve
thousand men was thought • very respectable force
to keep on foot for a peace establishment. Now
that our friend Louis XVIII. war on the throne of
France, the country being in • state of perfect re-
' pose, and Europe settled according to the pacific
taste and arrangements of the Noble Marquis him-
self, there could scarcely be any necessity for keep-
ing up establishments to the present amount of
250,000 men.
The Marquis of Los DON MIRY would not fol.
low the particulars of the argument of the Noble
Marquis throughout, as l►e ought to have more
time to prepare information fur such a purpose ;
but agreeing in the general principle, he wished
the House to observe, that in the Address to the
Throne agreed to by Ministers for the ,eduction of
salaries and offices, the military establishments were
understood in be included.
Colonel DAVIES hoped, as the sleuth of Bona-
parte had been announced since that Address had
been carried, that the reductions contemplated by
Ministers would be augmented by the whole of the
establishment at St. Helena.
Mr. H. G. BENNETT wished to know I►ow it
came to pass that the document respecting the
death of Bonaparte had not beets signed by his
French surgeon ?
The Marquis of LONDONDBRILT could not an-
swer the question, only having become acquainted
with the fact through the newspapers.
REPORT OF COMMISSIONERS ON IRISH
EDUCATION.
Mr. S. Rica rose to move tor the reprinting of
the t4th Report, which related to the Education
of thy Poor in Ireland. Among the objects which
he had in view by so doing, was that of reforming
the application of funds devoted to the education
of youth in Ireland. Since the Union, as it up.
peered from the Report, there had been 1,200,000/.
expended on three Protestant establishments of Ire.
laud. Whether the recommendations of the Com-
missioners were right or wrong, such a fact proved
of itself that the money must have been laid out
for the greater port uselessly uud suischievowily.
On the Protestant Charter School, Dublin, there
had been expended since the Union 634,000/; on
the Foundling Hospital upwards or 500,000/.; and
' on the Association for Uiacol,nteua►sewg Vice (the
pest:tics) object of the Society being the edu-
adieu of the pooi), a stun which, with the two

then 1.400.000/.
milseltiessoas es it
that proceeded to
es and prejudices
for the spread of
contend with. He est-
op schools whisk,
should be entirely-free from .41e suspicion of iliT
spirit of the dread of which bad led-I1
to the erection of Separate and exclusive schoolc
for Catholic and Protestant children throughout
Irelaud. He objected to the interference of the
Irish Goverument with the education of the poor,
which was mischievous to Ireland and expensive
to England. He concluded by moving that the
Report he reprinted.
Mr. BROUGHAM swished to state the reasons which
had induced him to postpone bringing in his Bill
for the Education of the Poor in this Sessioo.
Nothing could be more true than the necessity
stated by his Hon. Friend for keeping schools free
from the suspicion of the spirit of proselytism. In
this respect, the condition of England was far more
gratifying then that of Ireland—the schools of the
Eatablishinen and those of the Dissenter, were re-
ciprocally open to the children of the other party.
This brought him to the reasons for p•istironing bas
measure for theeducatiou of the poor till next Session.
He alluded to the controversy which had been struck
tip on the principtee of that measure between the Dis-
Seaters sod the coroabers'of the Church Establish-
twat. His profesiinual dirties hid kept him for two
Months out of town, during the main load of the
controversy ; he was glad to find, on his return,
flat it had wed! Suck great progress as the effect
•
tard would unquestionably be a considerable diffu-
sion of knowledge with respect to all the parts of
tho subject. He had paid the utmost attention to
all which had proved Oil the occasion, and he would
freely acknowledge that the observations which hr had
made were not at all flattering to the success of his
measure. The ground contested was so wide, and
the demands ou either side so great, that the utmost
conciliation would barely enable the consbotatit* to
agree. The Dissenters thought that there was too
much of church discipline in the scheme—those
of the Establishment thought that there was not
euough. There could scarcely be a wider dif-
ference. He hoped for great t &cur in reconciling
the parties from procrartination, which would pro-
duce discussion and explanation, and • much
clearer understanding of the principles than
either party seemed to possess at present.—
He would not disguise horn himself, or either os'
the parties, how 'great the coocemions must be as
either side before the parties could be joined is
the propagation of the object for which they were
severally anxious. He justified the contents of the
information which had been furnished by the Come
mission, but which had been subjected to variom•
imputations of incorrectness. In the cases where
error was supposed. to have been proved, the des
viations but been found to have 'siren lions ost
alteration of circumstances which had taken Ow
between the time of making the Report and that io
which the informatiou in particular parts had bees'
examined with a view to the discovering of error.
On a revision of the Report in those nominees the
Commissioners had generally found proof of the
accuracy of the first returns of population and
schools to an unit. He expected much beasts& on
ibis head frosts delay. Those who were disposed to
assist in establishing or disproving the statement,
with respect to their own parts of the kingdom, had
only to address a note to him iu town, and they
should be furnished with one or two copies of that
part of the digested Report which related to their
neighbourhoods, and which they might compare
with the existing facts, always remembering
•and allowing fur the difference of local cir-
cumstance. between 1818, the time of making
.up the Report, and the period of their own exa-
Assination. He recurred again to the controversy
•between the Churchmen and Dissenters, and con-
eluded by recommending the utmost 80'4 of con-
ciliation to both parties with a view to effectuating
their common object.
Mr. BRIGHT strongly objected to the measure of
the Hon. and Learned Gentleman. as one which
would compromise the religious liberties of the
country, by placing the entire religious education
of the poor under the direction of Church Minis-
ters. He compared the hardship of the Dissenters
being called on to pay rates in support of teaching
principles to which they were utterly averse, to the
tithes demanded of and paid by the Catholics of
Ireland. He promised his uniform opposition to is
measure so entirely dangerous to religious freedom.
Mr. BROUGHAM denied that there wits any view
of either enslaving or offending the op' aof any
class of persons among the advoc-ates of his former
Bill.
Mr. BECHER thought that it would be a greet
matter to strengthen the hands of those engaged in
promoting education, end to the Irish Government
in reforming the administration of funds granted
for that purpose, to get a parliamentary recogni-
tion of the spirit and principles or the Report, the
printing of which was now moved for.
A Member, whose name we could not ascertain,
stated his cordial approbation iu any plan to edu-
cate the poor of -Ireland, and principally because
the progress of education would tend to extirpate
the Romeo Catholic Religion there.
Mr. Wm. SMITH said, if there could he no pion
of education brought forward without injuring the
cause of religions liberty, he, for one, did utterly
abjure and detest it. At present he should content
himself with deprecating any Bill which would tend
to breed ill blood between the two parties.
The• question was then put, and the Report was
ordered to be reprinted.
Mr. WALLACE brought up the Report of the
Committee on Foreign Trade, which was ordered
to be laid on the table.
On the question that it be printed—
Mr. WaeLsca rose and said, the Report con-
curred with the Report of the other House, in the
propriety of laying open part of the East India
trade to the subjects of this country, so as at least
to put them on a per with foreigners iu that respect.
Mr. Mattel' said • few words.
Mr. Hung eulogised the liberal and enlightened
policy recommended by the Committee.
The Report was then ordered to be printed.
THE CORONATION.
On the SPIARBR putting the question fur the
adjouroinent of the House--
Mr. Hump said it wee big ildeutien to have sub-
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