Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-08-10 00:00:00

TURKEY.

Constantinople appears to be the chosen battle
"field of diplomacy. Every now and again we are
called upon to witness stern fights, wherein little
blood is spilt but very much ink, and wherein all
the aggressive and annoying means of which Am-
bassadors dispose are largely brought into play—
diplomatic notes, protests, ultimatums, delaying of

mails and sometimes packing up, thereatening to
no—going. The Sultan's Ministers are, of course,
always the party attacked, but, although the aggres-
sors have changed each time, there never has been
any change in the staunch friend who has always
'stood by them, and enabled them to resist the
unreasonable demands of diplomatic tiros, anxious
to gain their spars on this memorable field. What
there is in the air of Constantinople which flies
to the brain of young diplomats and inspires
'them with so much ardour, I cannot presume to
say, but alas ! I could name more than one
'Promising ambassador who has fallen a victim
'to this baneful influence, and another has just
been seized with all the symptoms which precede a
'rapid dissolution ; and yet it is easy to escape, by
Adhering strictly to the trite maxim, never meddle
'with what is not your business. When the
Congress of Paris lately recognised the. Otto-
man Empire as a member of the European
family, it seems at the same time to have thought
proper that it should undergo a term of tutelage
and probation before it was left to itself, and as a
part, of this system, I suppose, a commission
was appointed to watch the execution of certain
measures to be adopted in that part of the empire
known as the Danubian Principalities. A.great
question soon arose—shall these Principalities be
left separated, rated, as they have been from time imme-
morial, or shall they be united?—anal,
naturally
'enough, it was agreed that the wishes of the people
should be taken into account; that the Sultan and
his Government should have an opinion and a
wish in a matter which concerns an important
portion of the Ottoman empire, and that this
opinion and this wish should be the maintenance
of the ancient order of things, can be easily under!
stood.

THE

MURDER OF MIL LITTLE.

SATURDAY—SECOND DAY.
At five minutes after ten, the Chief Justice came upon
the bench, and the jury having been called over, the pri-
soner was placed at the bar. Counsel for the .prisoner
applied to have Mrs. Gunning re-called The Chief.
Justice Monahan said : Certainty. Mrs. Gunning was
then examined by Mr. Sydney : She said that after going
to Mr. Little's room she went to other rooms in the
building before she went to her own apartment at about
eight o'clock ; from the foot of the steps to her own
apartment there is but one flight of steps ; the swivel
window is kept shut by a hook-and-eye fastened on the
side of the widow; whilst in her own apartment she heard
no noise underneath; the eye is much larger than the
hook, and it would make noise by the wind ; the door
leading to the platform was closed at five o'clock; a person
could get out at the window on tho grand staircase ;
there is a window which opens on the platform ; and there
was an iron bar put upon that window, since the murder;
that window could be pulled down, and a person could
get out at that window on the platform near the gateway,
between the gateway and the door leading to the Direc-
tors' house ; if a preen went down by the back stairs to
the basement story, he would have to pass the coal store
and other store rooms along the corridor. By the At-
torney, G2nerat : There was no way of securing the window
that pulled down, before the murder ; never saw that
window open before the iron bar was put upon it; saw the
reflection of light from Mr. Little's room between seven
and eightp o'clock on the night of the murder ; went to
Cahry s room on these:me corridor and other rooms under
Mr. Little's room ; afterwards went out on the platform
and returned to the committee-room for a coal-box, and
went to her own room and lighted a fire; the clock struck
eight when she left her own room and went down to the
basement story. By Chief Justice Monahan: She passed
by Mr. Little's room only once from the time she saw the
ref! ctioe of the light there. The prisoner's daughter was
here produced, and on coming to the book the prisoner
became affected ; he buried his face in his hands, and
applied his handkerchief to wipe away a starting tear;
however he soon regained his composure. Chief Justice
Lefroy examined the child as to her knowledge of religion,
and her knowledge of the obligations of an oath. The
Attorney-General requested to be permitted to examine
the child : Sne said she was in the habit of saying her
prayers as long as she remembered; she said the Lord s
Prayer, the Hail Mary, and the Apostles Creed ; a person
who told a lie would be punished by God is the next
world. Lucy Spollen was then sworn, and examined by
the Attorney-General : Lived with her father and mother ;
her eldest brother is named James, and she is the third ;
James is going on seventeen ; Joseph is thirteen ; she is
be weeen ten and eleven years of age ; both her brothers
worked for the railway ; their dinner hour was twelve
o'clock, and her father was in the habit of (limiter, with the
family ; the family took tea at half-past five o'clock, and
her father and brother James took tea always with them;
remembers hearing of Mr. Little being killed ; heard it
the next day ; her father dined with them on the day Mr.
Little was killed; her brother James returned from work
at half-past five o'clock ; her mother was at home when
her brother came !home ; she took tea with them that
evening, and her brother James also ; took tea at the
usual hour ; her father did not take tea with them that
evening ; he came in about seven or eight o'clock ; took
her tea after her brother James and mother had taken
their tea; her brother Joseph took tea with her; her
father had not come home up to the time she had taken
her tea, but he came in shortly afterwards ; did not see
Sim in the cottage that evening till he came in at the hour
mentioned ; sew him Le'bre that on the roof opposla their
cottage; saw him on the roof of the house where the
smiths used to work ; was looking out at the window
when I saw him ; could see him from that window ; all her
brothers were with her ; James, Joseph, and George were
with her; George is younger than witness; he is going
on seven ; was looking out at. the window when she saw
her father; both James and Joseph saw him ; it was a
moonlight night ; her brother was standing at the hall-
I door at the time; saw her father; he was putting some-
thing down the chimney; that was the forge chimney; it
was something round in a lump that he put down the
chimney ; during. that time her mother was standing at
the hall door ; had not heard her father speak about the
place before she saw him on the roof; her mother had
left the room a good while before she saw her father on
the roof; she saw her father take his tea that, evening—it
was late when he took it—her father did not take his tea
for an hour and a-half or so after she saw him on the
roof; does not know the clock; thinks it was six or
seven o'clock when she saw her father on the roof ; did
not leave the cottage after she had taken her tea , it was
about an hour and a-half after she had taken her tea that
she saw her father on the roof; generally goes to bed
about nine or ten o'clock ; did not go to bed till after her
father had taken his tea; goes to bed by herself; her
father had the ladder on the roof with him—the ladder
reached from the roof to the chimney. To the Court :
Saw him middle way on the ladder to the roof, and when
on the roof saw him pull the ladder after him (sensation)
—piece of calico produced]—lt had been part of a sun
bounet, and had been a duster ; miessd it some time
before last Christmas ; often saw the duster about the
cottage; never used it herself; was sure that was the
same ; saw it shortly before Mr. Little was killed ; did
not see it since. Mr. Sydney objected to this line of ex.
emanation. Witness. Saw it about three months before
Mr. Little was killed ; saw it in the cottage ; it was then
used as a duster ; saw her mother use the piece of calico
as a duster ; witness and her mother used to clean the
house; she was not going to school at the time Mr. Little
was killed ; saw the police about the place after the
murder. Did your father say anything to you about that
time? Witness: He said if I were shown a piece of cea-
mois not to say I had ever seen it before ; remembers the
time her father was arrested; her mother had been ill
about a week before that. Do you recollect at the time
when your mother was, sick did she express a wish to send
for any one ? Counsel for the prisoner objected to the
question. The Court decided that the question might be
put as tending to elicit further evidence. What did your
mother say on that occasion ? She called for the priest.
What did your father say ? He said he wouldpot allow
either priest or doctor into the house, and the first that
went in for either he would have their life; all the chil-
dren slept in the same room. Cross-examined by Mr.
Sydney . Knew thtenature of an oath since she was taught
her prayers ; was not at the school for two years before
the murder of Mr. Little; her father was not away at the
time of the murder ; would swear he did not sleep out of
the house for two years before Mr. Little was killed ;
heard on the Friday that Mr. Little was murdered the
previous day ; heard it about half-past five in the evening ;
her brother Joseph told her of it ; lie said he heard it
over at the sheds ; her brother James knew it at the same
time as her brother Joseph ; was certain that it was the
day previous to hearing of the murder that she saw her
father doing what she had described already ; did not
know the month in which Mr. Little was murdered ;
could not say whether it was at the beginning or end of
the year ; did not remember what her father was doing
on the Monday previous to the murder ; did not recollect
what time he came to the house on the Monday after ;
thought her father came home at the usual hour; would
not swear it. (Counsel here drew witnessess attention
to the.neodel which lay on the table) The lunatic asylum
looked over on the railway; any one standing on the
roof could hit one of the windows of the asylum from it ;
knew the parlour window at her father's cottage; there
was a table at it, which ran across it ; was standing at
the table when looking out of the window ; when at meals
they kept the curtain drawn across; the curtain draws
either sides ; the curtain was drawn across the night Mr.
Little was murdered; there was a candle burning that
night in the room; her brother James took his tea with
her mother, and Joseph got it with witness after; her
mother never lit the candle until it was dark ; it was
dark then; the candle was only lit when her father and
mother sat down to tea ; they were about half an hour at
tea; herself and brother took the "same time to it; it was
not eight o'clock when they sat down, to tea ; it was, how-
ever, after seven o'clock when they sat down to tea-
(Witness was handed a piece of cloth. Will you swear
you ever used• that in your life? Witness: I did; I
know it by the pattern, but I am not certain I ever
washed it. It was shown to her for the first time after
having missed it, at the station-house ; that was after
Christmas ; about six weeks after her father was ar-
rested ; there was talk in their cottage about the reward
having been offered, and heard about other people offering
to tell of the murder; heard a Mr. Robinson and a Mr.
Dowd talking about it in the cottage ; they were not
trying to get the reward, but were speaking of the people
that were ; she did not, speak of it, but heard her father,
mother, and brother speak of it ; did not tell any one be-
fore she went to the police what she would there swear :
could not tell if her mother knew of her going there; Mr.
Meares brought her to the poliee office ; her mother was
in charge of the police in a lodging in Sackville-place,
when she saw her ; stopped there two or three days; did
not say anything there about what she swore to in the
police-office ; was not asked any qeestions about it by
any one; her mother did not know that she was at
the police-office; Meares brought her from Sackville-
place to the stationehouso in the same street;
stopped there for about half an hour;' from
that she was brought, she thought, to the lodging in
Sackville-place or Cnapel-street ; was not sure to which
place she was brought; could not say on what day she
was brought before the magistrates ; while in the lodgings
only went once before the magistrates ; after she went
home she went again before the magistraees ; could not
tell how many days intervened between the first and
second time she appeared before the magistrates ; altoic -
ther she was three different times before them ; eat and
drank at toe same table with her brothers and mother ;
did not speak anything to them about the murder after
she returned to the cottage. Mr. Curran here applied to
have the informations of the witness Lucy Spoiler!, sworn
on the Ist July, read. The Clerk oft be Crown proceeded
to read them, which occupied some time. Lucy Spollen,
in continuation, re-examined by the Attorney-General :
On tbu Friday after Mr. Little was murdered, heard it
frora her brother Joseph at about five o'clock ; her brother
said that he heard it in the sheds that Mr. Little was
' dead—that he had cut his throat; the curtain was muslin,
1
and ran in a running string ; she could put it aside from
the centre at either site; the curtain could be raised at

THE NORTHERN TIMES.---LIVERPOOL, MONDAY, AUGUST 10, 1857.