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CLANDESTINE OUTLAWRY.

ADDRESS.

Mr. CUST seconded the Address.

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The Clandestine Outlawry Bill was then, according to
ancient custom, read three times, and passed.
After
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The SPEAKER said, he had to acquaint the
(louse, that the House had been to the House of
Peers, where they bad heard his Royal flightlevy
the Prince Regent, acting in the name and on the
belia:f of his Majesty, deliver front the Throne a
Speech to both llou,es of Parliament, of which,
to Frevelit mistakes, he had procured a copy, and
which he should real, with the permission of the
[louse.

The Speech was then recd—(for which see
Lords.)

Mr. J. S. COCKS then rose to propose the Ad-
dress, which merely echoed the sentiments of the
Speech.
. . .

The question was then put from the Chair, when
Mr. TIERNEY rose, and spoke nearly as follows:
—" Mr. Speaker—ln the ordinary manner in which
Addresses to the Throne are proposed in this House,
I know it is not customary to take the opportunity
of canvassing their topics, or proposing any amend-
ment to the original motion, unless something shall
he contained iu the Address which pledges the
House to a course on which it is Hot prepared at
first sight to commit itself. In the present Speech
from the Throne there are some points with which I
can find no fault—the Speech, indeed, guards
against our being committed without inquiry, for
we are expresis:y informed that the papers contain-
ing the information which is to be explanatory of
the state of the country are to be laid before us—
but the Address is silent upon other topics,
and however painful to my feelings to pros
pose an amendment, I ca t do otherwise in
the present state of the c 1111 l itry—a state which
makes it imperative upon every man honestly
and boldly, in the Ike of the country, to
stale his sentiments. I am aware how inconvenient
this mode is by some considered of discussing to-
pica which may hereafter he debated with equal
effect; but I repeat the state if the country is such
that not a moment should be lost by any Member
of Parliament in openly, fairly, and fully stating his
opinions in the face of his constituents and the
country—not indeed by way of echo to the Speech
we have this day heard, bat by declaring the real
feelings by which we are actuated in the present
state of the country. No man csu Gel more deep.
ly than I do that lamentable state—no man can
have more abhorrence than I have for the blasphe-
mous doctrines that have been promulgated in the
couutry—doctrines which happily the laws of tire
land have been found fully sufficient to punish as
they deserved. The gi nerd! character of my life for-
bids the possibility of any doubting the sin-
cere abhorrence with which I view such blasphemous
and impious publications—/Hear)—and that my
on ly consolation on the occasion is one which, happily
for tire well-being of the community, I hold in corn•
mini with the great hulk of society—that for the
evil which prevails the law affords an adequate re-
ntedy.—lllear, hear.)—But I do not believe that
tints spirit of impiety has spread so widely among
the people us has been said. I have seen much of
the people of this and of oilier countries, and I be.
hear in my heart, and us the result of my own ac-
trial ob►ervation, that in Mb other country in Enrols
csu there be found more true devotion to God and
religion, titan is to be met with in this country.

If I wanted any additional proof of the prevalence
of this true and essential feeling among the pen.
pie. what better instance could I furnish than that
which we witnessed within the last twelve mouths,
the very period when these impious and profane
doctrines are said to have found such an ungluing
nullifier of disciples? Was it not within that very
perio.l we were told, and from the highest authority.
that Christian congregations had become so large
and extenstve, that the teal-tient places of wor-
ship were iseadegniete to afford them the accommo.
it tion reggigire.l for their worship, midi that it cis
necessary to erect new ones in various parts of the
country ?—(Hear, hear.)—ls it at such a time,
and node' such circuinstaners, that the people of
this country are to he told that iiilidelity hiss bikers
deep root among them ? It; however, it shall ap-
pear that impiety does stalk widely abroad, I shall
be as ready us any man to agree to the enactment
of new laws in aid of the old ones, fur the e,,ppres..
Sion amid) all evil. But litre lam that so far as
the law has been applied, it has answered its lauda-
hie and necessary• purpose, mid that the hottest and
Christian feelings of succes.ive juries have, whenever
capes came under their cognizance, put down the
daring authors of the impiety and blasphemy.—
With respect to the other part of the Speech,
which relates to the disaffection, or, as some rail it,
the treason which is to be found, not in the country
generally, but happily only in some of the manu-
facturing districts of it, much of serious re &climb
may arise. But if disaffection and treason shall be
any where found, mid that the present laws can be
proved inadequate to its detection 1111(1 punishment,
then again 1 say, let others and more effectual ogees
be enacted. Let us first hear what ►s the crime,
and where and by whom was it committed, and
then what steps have been taken to apply and ad-
minister the existing laws to extinguish the evil.
I may be wrong when I think the existing laws, if
vigilantly administered by them igi,tracy and con-
stituted authorities, are strong enough to preserve
the peace and tranquillity of the country—l may
be wrong when I think, that, if flrady, f.irly, and
equally administered by the Government, they are
enough for all legitimate purposes; lint I cannot
he wrong when I assert that the main st►env,th of
these law', their general efficacy t depend on
the thorough conviction which the people have of
their necessity, and the equality of their ailiiiiiii.tra-
tioir among all racks of Ills Majesty's subjects..._
In vain will you enact new laws. in vain will you
arm your old laws with new terrors, in vain can
you expect to put down the people by the face
and vigour of your enactments, mile,s you call
first convince them of their justice, and, above all,
command their conviction of their necessity and
their impartiality.—(Hear, hear.)—Bat why are
we to seek for the sole cause of the present state of
the country he the machinations of the evil-dis-
posed and the seditious? Have you not heard of
the complaints, the general complaints, from day
to day, of the pressure of taxation ?—(Hear.)--
I always wished on the day whelk this House was
so lavish of its expenditure, to impress 1110)11 you a
belief, that great as are our national resources,
they were outstripped by the atiticipations of
Ministers, and were not as inexhaustible as these Mi-
nisters would have had you believe. When I made
these predictions, I was called almost an enemy to
social order—when I ventured to interpose between
you and the millions upon millions of the public
money which were so profusely disposed of, I was
overruled and defeated. I now appeal to soli,
whether the real cause of our present distress is not
to he traced to the lavish profusion of the late war ?
—ln vain can we conceal the real root of the evil—
from it has grown up this pressure of taxation—
(Hear)—a pressure which the country cannot bear.
The Government &tetra from the people more than
the people can give, consistently with their own
comforts and subsistence. They cannot support the
imposition of those taxes. I know the difficulty I
must endure in making Gentlemen opposite believe
this, yet it ise nevertheless, u fact against which they
cannot shut their eyes—against which the country
never can cease to raise its loudest voice. There is also
an expression, which, if it were any where else but in
the Royal Speech, I would pronounce a miserable and
pitiful hoax upon the credulity of the country•—l
tnemi that part which says, r Although the re venue
has undergone some fluctuation since the close of
the last Session of Pailiatntiit, I have the satisfac-
tion of being able to inform you, that it appears to
he again in a course of progressive improvement.'
This was a miserable attempt to hold out a hope
of general and permanent improvement from a tem-
porary rise, and they who made the statement
knew this to be the fret, and that this rise
was occasioned by some trick or device—.a
practice of old date with the present Ministers.—
When Parliament met, tile revenue was generally
getting up—but soon after it was prorogued, things
found their own level, and down went the revenue
again.—(4 laugh, and Heur, hear.)—Only nine '
months have now elapsed since we were gravely
congratulated upon the undeniable fact (as it was
termed) that the trade, commerce, and manufac-
tures of the country, were in u flourishing stare.—
The Ministers at the tune could not have believed I
this statement—they ought nut to have put it into
the mouth of their Sovereign—nor ought his Royal
Highness, after having heard it, and seen how the
fact subsequently differed from the assertion. place
any longer implicit confidence in statetneuts made
to him from such a quarter upon subjects of
finance. In their opinions (die Ministers) matters
would go rtit well. How was the fact ? They be.
came worse. But this worse, say they. is only a
fluctuation.' It was yet a fluctuation that must
prove ruinous to the country.—(Hear, hear.)—The
real fart is, that trade never was at any preceding
period in such a state of general stagnation as it is
now in this country. It is said that this depession
is in a great inetosure to be ascribed to the embar-
I situation of other countries. This, to a car.
tarn extent, tnay be true: the depression in the
commerce of other states cannot, of course, but
affect the state of our own. Bat ask the mer.
chant, dill he ever know anvil an utter waut of
commerce ? He will tell you that lie never (lid,
and he will mainly attribute it to other causes than
those of mere external existence. Ask the manu-
facturer, and you will receive the same answer ; ask
the agriculturalist, and lie will reply that he final
have a protecting duty to remunerate him ; ape
the labourer, and he will tell you his wages afford
hien bat an insufficient subsistence, and that he is
compelled to resort to the eoor Laws fur the re.

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mainder—laws which, in addition to other fatal ef-
fects, have gone filet towards altering the .oharacter
of the great mass of the people of this country, and
have turned aside all those :honest feelings of inde-
penderice which were heretofore not only the pride,
hut the great characteristic of Engfish:nem—(/'tear,
hoar.) After this. do you want plots or treas.:oils to
account tor the existence of the Ili:affect• that
prevails ? I hope that disaffection dors not estu•t Io
any great degree anome the bulk of the people. I
believe that their disaffectiou springs from the ab-
ject state of distress mod wretched teas into which 40
many of them are unhappily stink. The suite
of the ct 1111 l try, I admit, is alartiiiiig ; I sins an ha
an alarmti•t, but not to the cause iu which Minis-
ter, would wish Inc to be. I ion deeply alarmed at
the spirit I see prevail—l feel as much as any man
can for the general situation of the people—hut I
cannot shut my eyes to whit I think is the real sod
the sole cause of the existing state of things. I
may, in declaring my sentiments, draw upon my-
self both calumny and clamour; but my firm con-
viction is, that the people have out the confidence we
could wish them to have in the character of the
House of Commons.—(Hear, hrur.)7-This is not
the opinion which pervades that ►et of people who
have a name for even• thing—l wren the Borlicals,
NB they ore called; but it is that which pervades the
middhuK classes of satiety, and many others, who
see the violent party out of doors :is I do, and who
hold in thorough contempt their wild and
►themes of Reform.—(/tear, hear.)—The
chimes to whom I allude see tool feel that there
is something wrong iu the present state of the
country—they naturally ask themselves—ll ave we
not confided oar otilirs into the hands of our Mini.-
ten ?—Have we ever refused Government the means
of carrying on and giving effect to their own views
of public affairs ?—Have we ever refused them
any supplies they called For—any money or troops
they wanted ?—have we been ever backward in Sc.
cerliog to any of their requisitions for new laws or
other measures which they on their responsibility
declared neceseary fur the safety of the country ?
How cornea it then that we find ourselves iii this
situation?—How is it that we have to endure this
stagnation of trade at home, and this titter want of
foreign commerce ? We naturally ask yon, who
brought us into this condition, the cause of our
present distress, and what is Inure strange than till,
we ask you how you can, after the experience we
have hail of you. come forward and demand it still
furtherextensom of oti r confidence ?—(Hear, hear.)
These are the opinions and (resin:no of 'lumber-
less respectable classes in the inivate walks of life,
and who think of Parliamentary Reform in a proper
and practical sense—of that reform which has been
working onwards for years, and who know not by
theory, but by con-taut observation of the practice,
that there is in effect no identity between the feel.
Mg. of the Representatives in this House mid their
constituents, or the bulk of the people without.
On the subject of Parliamentary Reform, I should
belie the whole teller of toy life if I was not a sincere
friend to it—and I thank the Hon. Mover of the
Address. for the fairness and candour with which he
drew a line of distinction between my opiniatis and
those who think with me on the question of Re-
form, and those of certain persons out of doors.
With the same frankness and candour I will tell
that Hon. Member, that if I were asked whether
my opinions on the subject of Parliamentary Re-
form have undergone any clien4e since a former
period, when I advocated them, I have us little he-
sitation in avowing that they have. I will not say
that as 1 grew older I grew wiser—but I became
less sanguine and more cautions. In the ardour of
youth I was attached to many schemes which I
have now, in maturer life, abandoned. But to say
that many changes are iiecesseiry—that the respect.
able and thinking part of the country are persuaded
of this necessity—that great changes and alterations
may not be made, not only without hazard to the
constitution, but with safety to it, by throwing
fresh safeguard* around it—l son now as ready
to say this as I was at the most sanguine period of
my life.—( Hear, hear, hear.)—Parliamentary Re-
form was first brought under the consideration of
this House during the American war. it was pro-
posed by Mr. Pitt, whose great abilities and station
in she country gave it great importance, ■nd made
it the subject of general inquiry einong the coin.
munity. But the people now saw the question in
a practical sense, and I must say that from the ex-
perience, the palpable experience they have had, I
do not think their request of a rational Reform un-
reasonable.—(Hear.)—This Hover is blamed by the
people. We tire the guardians of the public purse,
and if we misuse it, are they not entitled to coin-
plain to us of the abuse, and to hold us responsible
who have committed it? Are we not the grand
inquest of the nation, and if any thing shall appear
to the people wrong in the conduct of the mars-
traey, are we not to blame, if on their part we do
not institute an inquiry ?—(Near, hear.) —1 know
that there is a price which we must pay for the
possession and enjoyment of the noblest Con-
stitution that was ever devised for the good of
a people. Our Constitution consists of three
branches, two of which are in their nature fixed ;
mid the third branch, which is ours, must, from its
composition, be fluctuating. It must ever remain
so unless we can form an obstruct idea of rewriter:.
tation. Therefore we must ever he prepared
discussions upon such a question as Perharneotary
Reform, according to the course of events, the prat.
hive and conduct of Parliament, and the feelings of
the people. Long discussions must occasionally arise
upon these topics ; these moat often tend to gond,
and to a revision of old abuses—very unfortunately
they must also (as is now in some quarters the fact)
have a terideitcy of a different kind. I own I inn
astonished sr sonic of the strange notinits that find
advocate., but because such things exist, I am not
therefore to overlook real erten:levet. I am es much
an enemy to this radical party as any man who hears
me; I have us much contempt for their under.
standing, dislike for their p►ocerdings, and jealousy
for their object., is any man can Mar.—(blear,
hear.)—l am free to admit that they (or at least
some of them) Inver, availed iheinselves of• the (Im-
mune for Pal liamentary Reform out of doors to do
that w .cb all good men must regret ; but I do
not, therefore, mix them op in one general sweep-
rag renamre of condemnation. There art, I Iwtirve, Rome
airflow them, who are bunnelleJ by an excess of vanity, to
move Aunt as ~at popular leatiem Time are others who
net without object, who act from a mere paucity of intel-
lect, sad who. I belies, are nut capable of comptebeadieg
• any owe word Slay utter. There are also ethers, who so

heullontr, *Wield eating where they
more who move for mischief sake, r

destruction they could by posaibility
Mover hoped. that I would, fur the sake
the broad tine of thminction between mar epinoms at
thi. side of the House, of those parties to whom lie alluded.
I 'shall do this shore hoard, and against all the leader•
..f these radicals. I shah draw the line pretty ol..itily, mid if
I do nor go a little further in doing so, it is toe item the
trials of some of them are impending, stet I on that accuirit
widi to he forbearing. To du justice to the radicals, the y
have dent, mint the most imparted favon.e to ll:likens, and
tip iis their opponents. Thee have attacked Ile almietere for
Irving in 'Are; and we, who me not iliere, leer received
our share of reprobation fur a kind cif pr.vt obit oilier • f-
felice—fa laugh)—so that we are at hull, aid. a ono y
nearly equal in the confidence of the radicals : aiml I a.'.
thoroughly convinced that had not the vie rice abuse ..f
the two been ; ed upon our stile, the Nlinisters
cut hare put them down as they hail done. The Sliiii.te • s
for this, nu doubt, claimed of sus sumo iiibnte for Ism. it
partiality, mid some little compll in•nl for the kitidon.. of
their motive —(A forigki—Bot my chief object in ri.iag was
to state what I believe to be the general epinion t':e
country—it is, I repeat, a want of confirtenee in this
House, from practical observation of ha rue eedlogo, dor.
log a Mora! of Inure than twenty years. I do not he.
lieve that the crest hulk of the people look fireside
fur •isiouaiy distress; I do smut believe that they will ,
he found advocates for the dietritie of mined Par.%
batmen's., unmet's! suffrage, and elective by ha 1100....
A contrary opinion I know is carefully circulated-1 mk. ray ,
its prom telgators at those meetings, of bundreila lif thous
ie different parts of the country. My reply is, in Ile brat
place, I 110 not believe the members hi he as they 'mire heel
stated. But suppose they were as great as they have been
described at any particular spot—dors any man helm. We that
when he hears of fresh timelier* in iliffereol places, they
consist of fresh groupes—the feet is otherwise—he 011111 look
al the movements of these smetings, as he does at the pere-
grinations of a company of strolling players—they perform
in one place one day, and the scene shifts to another the
next —(Load laughtetr.)—So it is with the Radical.; if they
get a meeting of 40,000, they endeavour to move it abut
front place to place; you have the same aroma, lie rime
Saes, the same resolve —of eoumse, each toast • here the
performance of the day is fixed, rumbaed its little addition
of the local idlers or the curious, to whom tt.e novelty ass
looming; but the leaders, the chief mowing body wire
the alone, though with occasional changes of residenee
Notwithstanding what has been said, I am fully peroliaded
that not one.liftieth part of the crowds computing ,Lose
meetings have any identity with the acts or 'minims that
emanate as if from them. The schemes of their leaders are,
in fact, held either in contempt or amazement. What Gill
the House, for instance, think °file condect of nn Hoe. Ba.
tenet, • very good sort of man, I am willing to believe. in his
private life (we presume Sir C. Weilseley), who could gu to
Birmingham, not to be elected as • Meador of Parliameet,
for that would be too odious • name, but • Legislatorial Attor-
ney—as such be was elected and empowered to take his seat
among us. I am glad, for his own sake, that he yarded
his seat, or at least that he disobeyed the order of he coo.
▪ teems, who authorised him to come here and lake it, fir
sere I min, that if the worthy Baronet had obroed Owir call,
it would have been fur himself the meat inconvenient scat in
which he had ever attempted to sit in the whole Mitre of
his life —(Loweelefee.)—Tr use it was, that the worthy Baronet's
contihsents were moderate enough to elect brit one Legislate.
rial Attorney. On the same rule of proceeding, however, they
might have elected ten—there could be no tool to their pea.
ferments. The ridicele and indifference with v bele th. se
events have been viewed by the public at large, satisfies me
that there needs no alarm about the strenelb of the Raileals.
As I said before, I confess however, that I am not without
alarm—but it is one which livings from a rely difTeieut
quarter, and one which is, I think, greater than I could hnie
had, hail I lived at any former period of our history. I hare
expressed my astonishment respecting the Rallicale—let ate
now say a word or two respecting those who act upon the op.
posit, extreme, and who contend teeniest all 'ditties IN Melia/.
Let me particularly address myself to a Right Hoe. Geode-
man opposite, who is of this way of thinking (die allusion
was understood to apply to Mr. Canning); he seems to over-
look the variation of times and circumetanrea, and their in-
evitable influence upon the condition of heinous irffaics. He
dues not [eke into his consideration the different., between
the state of education anion the people now, and that riledh
existed thirty or forty yeses ago. Our proceedings were
then sent forth to the world in a sort of nimorious
with Roman name, anti supposititious cases. They were
wow given in plain terms, and with the addition of real dia.
meters. In the former period, few read and fewer understood
those publications; in the present there existed, as com-
pared in the former, an increase of at least 'hire to ore of
the people at large, who were capable, or who thought
themselves so, of examining, eiftine, and canvassing one
acts. If you mean to avail yourselves of the isicalemishbr
advantages which spring from this more general diffnsion of
education, you mast prepare to meet the criticism of this
more extended portion of the educated public. The come
Which would have been secure foe you thirty or forty
yearn ago, is now very differest in its appearance. He
who rays that all is wise that has heretofore *Nixed,
mud prepare himself to find men at the corner of m very
oteeet, capable of confoundiag him to utter shame fur
uttering such • doctrine, and by argument. cogent and
irresistible. This is the new spirit which we most take
it into one among' to meet. If you think you can bre, kit
down by strong measures, that you can disperse it by -1u-
Ingo% that you can successfully meet it by an angel. nu:on:be
viper military force, that you ear confute it by loath ad.
the atimy that you as curb the progress of reason anion: an
whemiled people, because you prestime to affirm it is wirier at
the bred of a military force—if you Batter yourselves yen cis
attempt this, and with any probability of seeress, believe
me you will be treading upon perilous ground, you wilt be
exasperating the already heated feelings of the country
against you, and plunging alike toward** crisis doubtful in
its nature and character, and dreadful in ifs enestivienci le In
this state of thinge,with angry feelings on the one stile, aid the
intrudnetion of idle and visionary schemes among a portion
of the other, affairs were placed before the 11th of August
last ; the events of that momeutoes day were wisely, mud
with good sense, overlooked by the Hon. Mover of the. A.I.
dress—he would not suffer himself to be Made the mouth.
piece of the Treasury in dwelling upon the sceues of that ~
day, which must be looked upon as the moat eves/aft*, t
we have seen lit modem times.—(Hear, Sear,
Before that day the meetings of the people were as Lalgullhoe
described them. Sieve that their character has bereave eme .
tired), altered; they have proceeded epos • new and a Eno._
nientuessabject of complaint arising out of the events of
the[ day. With this complaint meetings have spread from
one end of the kingdom to the other. It is with refetemeeM,
this particular affair that I state myself to lie under 4111
painful neeemity of proposing an auscultative'. I say lea m.
tint consent to an. Address which omits roliciag that armee,
which is precisely theme of all others that I think ought to
have been alluded to in it.—(Cries of hoer, kew., kror.)—
I am not nt all disposed on the prevent ocessiens to go into
the details of the occurrences of that day. Illy sole object
is to vet all the authentic information we call
them, as well to justify the Magishotes as to satisfy the
people..—(Hear, hear )—I mean to pronoun,' Imo opinion
upon the meter; all I require is, that we shall have aim iin-
ntediate explanation respecting it. If mar there w a
in occurrence that reeptired this temiliediate tap' inalbisir
surely this is exactly that oecorreme.—(Hear,
find a multitude, admitted to be tmartiarel, mane soy hl
oit settees 40,000, some say less, while others swell Ilse automat
ti, 70,000, hat ISO matter whet thew numbers actuelly meet,
we find them suddenly attacked by • mallet), loran—we
find that theconeequence of ibis attack was the loss (loom of
their limo, and the mainsing of teeny handy de Shorty hart•
in; the case thus far, did it not loudly rah for inquiry Ido
not say also was in llseright, or who in the wrong, MOM Han-
rhestre business. lam ready to make great aliowom es for
the alarms of permit's of prepesey amid the disturbed state of
their manufeeterigig eistioilies, fee the jealousy that, 1114111
a variety ammo% unhappily subsisted hemps flay blether
and leer claims le particular platers. lam rawly to do all
this, but it is still enough fur me la Imam, that blood has
been shed, end limbs bowline of auras wapiti, acrd children

it, •n smarmed smelaiartle—l say lismt reausla for tsse ta
justify my call for itatusesliala irgukry. I aus told a strong
cue eau be made eet-4or du credit a ibe Magistraejr,

•—'qlide-r—*4'""r"
ey are mt. and of C4111,1*
and for a set amble is suy
bility effro . The Hues.
I. sake of the

1 hope so. Bat the time his ..w arrived, when the oppor-
tunity is sNorde:i to 'gm.. •he eteee.oary fojelan.tion, iNtet
PS make out the en.r.-r(llear.)-7nr flows, ii nAtef rsllel
.puss to restes:m its sissour!es with the public, Usti 1 sArin,
Ora it his out Hue
Grass that the In. eiii.g was ille2ll—[rant that its Irwin*
were ihouffeelea, nod to hive beets -lakrit on—they

•ere 13kPli no and earri,•d .off wohnut atty eviiiistniete
• ter euefu•win on the rut of the innitituite. Wivit I waist to
blow hi Iltat.vhich uecuPr.d sabregient to the arrest of she

desdres, for it was then ibis the merlin( WWI disprised,itod
dispersed by w military forre.—(l?edr. hacre.)--Ti. this part
af tie business the day I *hail roolior soy
rimy eiretartios is resorted to np.m wu ssisarnsi-d mu uludr
tribe ha) lasi 14.4 tea.:oya, wbo.ellenerals srere carried of
•tlhuttt resistsore. and otio -were ctrireed ,s.tb persons carry.

Jag drawn swank, an.l •lAVAIo nirnit ihrm Yet
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eby data) along through a YrnwJ that dot not homy which
lay to ran, asil *olio hog without .h-iiitetion of age
or lies I eying 'faltered Wan% hell., haw )
Thai the acroasits of tly cIICONVAIMIC4IB •11.1
forinnes ut .hat t!ay have Ki-e'r, mod; ex iggiirated. I have ma
tihnitii;:yrt there sir 4.oecorty,tl, cimoireisM with them which
watilinit he mistaken Thee lotions of emustties m she
uhf-
th'errul ioirmari. s (nom, t tie in to ;skim —the lack that buyouts
iliave sat nu ~,, rr I hao soierde-id It oly, is watiewiehte —(New,
Spar )--I repeni, wtlhn= and *intuits.' to ahatain from
Making any harsh oh•ervati.o, op in the Magistrate., as my
Mile object is inquiry. Th. V! igiet.ites shay peolcips say
Nut their high coosishlr, N ap;ilied for a military fosse
so citable him to Aaron Ito *arrant against the leaders of
liar weetitig, mid that they irest,:eil the Teton spry to assist
Nits—then the quest arises, why, when die business was
190 itily done, and the safely loilge4,no the New Bui•
ley, slit the yeomanly art as Ili. v btd stone upon this wretch.
eiimiddefesireles. multitude? Unl they act with the appro.
Usti,,,, of she Magisirmi..? If eh., slot not, slid the Magn.
ntratea, from Mie situ 111 l •iu whirls they Were placed, over-
' issokio( the groom), ettetnot to esti them In? Did they try
Warsaw them off noin s [vie imlisei militate attlek 011011 this
wretched toultitaile! Its me ask to whatSmerrt.e of

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discretion did the M iris:rates make are of the Ilaneheatior
yeomanry on that oers • ?—( Hear, hear )—Was' It right,
I will ask, to men. wit.. were emoted in the hest of
the. local animosities of the place, to met under sat*
ei;eerastances—and the more particularly when there was
a regular body of military oe the spot, who, I venture In
say, if wiled upon, would heve effected every °hirer with.
use 1111101161)141, ur withuot console any uf those disasters
Which r-stilted from the interfieenee Of the yeomanry' I
hsiuw that in looking at this melancholy eirettandanee of the
Iflth of Atignat, and in discussing the propriety id calling
fiw an immediate inquiry, we are by some perilous 1.1.1 that
we are prejudging the qnesti ssss , aud that we ought to abstain
tiem entivaa‘ing that which appears in be pensleug before a
legal trilinnal. But from all I ran discover, 1 du nut know
!bait any matter it now in a tonne of legal inquiry which
ems elucidate ;he real i which remains to be explained.
'Ur. Hoot's trial einnot throw any light upon it, for it relates
to occitreenets antecedent to the actual dispersion of the
molt; when they were dispersed, he was *ritually iu custody.
in fact i know of no cam now legally depeeding, in which
the real merits of the question as affecting the dispersion of
that sonititnile ran he tried. But I confess I di. not Off huw
that makes all the ilifferelice which by some it is supposed
to make. Ire are the grand inquest of the nation; and are
nor iniaisiturial functions to be suspended, If in a time of
profound pew". an unarm ol mishit udeare diverts', by a mi.
Mary fume..-and ore we to be told that other such an event
bee happened, She people aggrieved are to he left to their re.
reedy through the tedious and expensive formalities of Courts
.1 law' Now the [louse shoot.' recollect that this is not a ease
ef assault of Cee.Thomaa, a lio knuekailown Sohn Jackson—
it ia tad the ease of two isidiviihral., who know their own
affairs, and the real Canso. of their difference—it is, un the
contrary, a general esp., affecting great popular rights. We
ail know the old saying, shit, " what is every body's busi-
ness is nobitily'a"; an that if matters are let in this state,
.11e* people are utterli destitute of the means of wilting re.
Jetty Beside" we slum Id never forget that the great object
31inhiters is to crush inquiry—lllear, heir, hear.)—
They hive already rommitted themselves to a particular
C.,41-.► of proceeding by the haste With which they thanked
site chief actors in the affair at M a nehester.—(Hear, hear).— 1
I never met a man of any parry who did nut condemn that
most precipitate measure, and who did not say that it was I
the moat unadvised proriediat that ever entered into the
mind id' man, because Ministers when they sent forward
Chit approbation of their royal master, expressing 1' his
great witisfaction at the prompt anal efficient means"
taken by the Manchester Magistrates and yeiimietry, that is,
in other words. at the aluyine of tee or mix men, and at the
"Wining of 300 or 4004141meg a mixed and defenceless mul.
ulnae, voila have known nothing( the real facts of the
ease. Of whatever they did know, mast have come from the I
parties who were directly luvulerd to the trausaction, and
oho were sot therefore the most likely to be impartial judges
sn their own cause. 'flue Ministers and the Slavatiatirs Wl', I,
tl:erefore, embarked in the same common interest, and the
;Noble Lord or,nisite (Lord Castlereagh), will. I trust, excuse
when I say that I cannot listen to all his easements ;
(-Maid he make them) on this subject to.sight With nie I
'.y must KO to might. The steps which Ministers have
taken are too clear to be misunderstood, they are mit, nor
will they be looked upon by the truantry as impertial evi-
Gent" upon this oniii-Ct. One curcurnstarice has oceurrid in
the course uf the proceedings which followed the affair at
Manchester, which, I think, amounts to a breach of the pre- I
viler" of this House. I allude to the signature of a Peer
it the realm, slid of one of his Majesty's Miuisterr, to a
eteuntaiendatiou addressed to the High Sheriff of r• county,
se/resting him not to co meeting, which was in
is.oigires of being celled to consider of the Manchester buss.
",'••• for a Pier and a Minister to interfere thus openly
to "(event the undoubted ise of a popular right, was, if
got a breach of privilege, certainly • breach of Jeeuviiiii.
When • Minister of the Crown committed such an act it
was a part of a plan to overawe the people of Euglard—a
plan begun unwisely, sad which must mid its shame.—
A. great Minister once raid, that out questions of great sod
general vital isterest, all the minor cousiderations of party
feetieg abuold be laid aside, and the only object among all
should be, the promotion of the public good. l implore the
Neese to act upon ibis wise maxim-1 implore those who
beer to try by it the conduct of his Majesty's Miiiisteis.
Leash for instance at their recent conduct in the dismissal uf
earl Fitswilliaro, a nobleman who unites to • greater degree
Ikea any tither personage now living the good wishes of eves p
ciao is the community, and this for no other offence titan
Wars. 4e touk a Ilse of conduct different from that par.
sob/ by !ffinisters—sod for this (Arson" was he to be die.
relined (slim his Lieutenaucy, and by a set of men who yen.
are gravely to boast that party has tsotbing to do with their
'tete? Cousin
,this act with the approval from the same
goofier, of the prureednigs of the 16th August—and then
Am art the men who do not suffer party to gavels; them is
tinge public acts' They dismiss a maw in the idle hope of
degrading him, wile, I say, mates its himself the sympathy,
tlie deep, the rooted afteetiesi of every class in the 11101110411.
nay' mere thus any ether relating character—Witmer/ from
bilk shim of the ligitaip--who lives and moves ill general cs.
tiMative, prineipal:y for the known said uniform iutegrity of
hie character, putty for his advanced age, suit the prommeut
• itsracter lie low:veld in collie affairs fur unity years, and par-
t 'tritely (sir the last 40 years iu which he held the Lieuir.
1.1'4,4 Yorkshire, in • manner that might to have protected
bilk Agin this abrupt distil:oil. It has been my misfortone
to have differed am some occasions from that ruble and
distinguished character, List I know he was at one
time the beet stay of those Ministers fur what they Ccolli-
tiered the tranquillity of a vary large district is the country.
'I hat igeMe LOllOl hal, done within the sphere of his jtirisdic.
twin, what ii Ministers had dime in theirs, I should sot be
&wit engageel as i am is addresaiug you at this eminent.—
fairl hiswilhani secured mid upheld the peace of Toikshire,
arid his reward !teatime his dismissal. mat his deg, adatiou.
for by whom could soeb a wise be degraded feu, )
'Owe" bate betel memiaga in Yeekshire-e.there have barn
Iwo 'yew, said precession" snowing is that great eianuty—
xi", sad Mere twee also breed of esreff mesa tug, under the
Landers of his Liodainp, by the people themselves, to pee.
serge-the pewee pf the (vasty; sad is ao immune was that
erste violated. What are tiles lb* ceinplaiids of Iff iiiisters
'qui** the Soule salesadtey are comprised in the ie.
at* his Witte ate* thole tool Do they my he
saga ityciaiepyien it to discharge abs thaw et his Lienteganey
kM they any that he did am p Mos to his aunty at the

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