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tli.oeH presentad.dk _
tandh . hero of the Conittf.let .filereford, complain.
ip;llll,th depressiona Abe apiculture' interests,
aptijr,fitig for rebof. re.arserved that it bud
teen sod ;het the distress of which the aoricul-
turista coMpleined was merely temporary, but he
concurred with the Petitioners in thinking that un-
less some measure calculated to afford sheen relief
were speedily deoisesl,the pressure would is of inef-
ficient duratiou to ensure the rum of dm present
race f..farmers some landed propel...a in ro, .
Ili,,sac (Zoirato did not shish dia
nti ecta in
).
iflve[priashire weer so gloomy sah di r Gentle-
inan 114 ;toted. t• !Ili,'
- 4r. lions presented a Petition at al limiter
mature from the Owuers and Occupiers of land in
the Western District of Strathmore, in Forforshire,
in Scelland.
.13.041 there Petitions were referred to the Agri-
cultural Committee.
TREATMENT OF MR. HUNT.
Mr. BpIGHT presented a Petition from a numer-
'os beidor of the iuhabitootoof Bristol. pruyiug the
i1.4,4:t0 toke into its consideration die case of Mr.
I loot:. Ile said that he had at first hoped that the
.taterneots and complaiuts of the management of
ti.e gaol in which he was confioed, oud of the
treatment he'haill experienced, would not be borne
eta by the evidence, hut he was sorry to find that
i hey had 11140 ositto be but too true ; mid lie masted
tow House Would not be led away by the nine.
..iitatiOrt of respectable persons from taking fall
ci4misaoce of the ease.
!VP. I uitig presented a similar Petition from
Chti,ocrt mr in Wiltshire. fie said he had been
(oily eon rotted io the epittion which be bed from
Ow gest e:moftleittord of ihe conduct of the gaoler,
and thafillr: [lout was suffering such snore than
I'll iiOfets-
Tiffs yelitions were ordered to be printed.
IRISH FIFE PER CENTS.
The Citsnc6Ll.oll of the Excusatitlt said, the
time having expired, 0 the House meat be .were,
eatieh had been ullowed to the **lets to aigaify
their dissent from the plan which he hail proposed
for the reductiou or the Foglith 4.ltar Celt*. it was
ha intention to bring fpreeril a .stersiler ,proposition
in regard 'to the fttat,ilitt tents.; with that view
he men moved spelt4e_ outset no to-morrow (this
'141I) resolve itsrlf to a I,:wanutittee on the Irish
5 per Crnt. Acts.—Ordered.
Mr. /luster asked whet was intended to be done
with respect to 1,940,000/. doe from Government
to the Bank of Ireland; whether it. was intended
to pay them off, or to reduce the rate,of interest on
that sum P Vu '4l
The Cu AncELLOR of the Excilistuita mid, that
he had comtnnuicated to the Bonk of Ireland an
offer of the same terms which be intended to pro.
pose to the holders of five per cent, stock, to which
he had not received any answer; he therefore in.
fi-rred that those terms would be acceded to: bat
should the Bauk decline that arrangement. then a
provision would be made to pay them off in the
saute manner as other dissent tug parties. He then
inuved that there be laid before the House copies
of two Treasury minutes, on the subject of redac-
tion in the civil offices of Governing:B4.SW the
returns made to the same.—Ordered.
The CitAIICKILOA of the Eicalt6ollll -meet
moved, that there be land before the Howe an
estimate of the even that may be reqnieed is 16114
to pay off those proprietors of the navy five per
cents. who dissented flven the term. offOred by Par-
liament. The Right Hoc. Gentleness' (as for as
we elftlitt Olddrralopti him, leer be 'poke in ii tone

'brioging
Meet. - • to know,
; old usage
grounds this me hod been made en etcephoo.
Some cams of delinquency 'having been allTged as
occurring io the Victualling Board, an inquiry had
been directed into the circumstaaces, which Was
conducted by his gallant Friend ISir G.. Cock.
born) end the Roo. Member for Edinborghabire
(Sir G.Clerk). It struck him. end he believed
mast of the officers of the navy, with some surprise,
and it could not but be disagreeable to the feelings
of Mr. J. C. Serie, that after having filled the
Chair at the Victualling Board for years and a
half—having been during the course of -the war so
much appruved of at the Treasury as to have been
highly rewarded, and to have premed 'for his lady
a pension of 300 f. a year, which it was hardly pos-
sible for any merits, however great, in his place at
the Board to have deserved—that he should have
been suddenly struck from his seat, as it were,
by a flash of imperial displeasirre.—(Much laugh-
ter.)—For his own part, he was sore that the
gallant Officer was not capable of any thing that
could, in the slightest degree, reflect upon his chat-
ratter, nor did he mean to question the royal
prerogative with respect to promotions, but ibis
was a case so extraordinary in the apparent circum•
*tutees as to stand in need of some explanation,
and he hoped to hear that he was wholly acquitted
of any delinquency. The Hon. Member then pro-
ceeded to animadvert upon the appointment of. a
Colonel of the guards (Colonel Stapylton) to
succeed Mr. Serie in the chair of the Victualling
Office, it having been before decided that the situa-
tion was one to be properly filled only by a naval
officer, Mr. Marsh, the former Chairman, having
its consequence of that decision been removed from
the chair, to mike way for the appointment of
Captain Serie, and there being a naval officer a
junior Commissioner at the Navy Board, from
which the Colonel had been removed, who was
above him on that Boyd.
Sir G. CocEnuan said, that in justice to the
Rem-Admiral whose promotion had formed the
subject of the gallant Officer's humorous speech,
'he fete- bowed to state that his removal had nut
been occasioned by any thing in the smallest degree
derogatory to his character, but only by the neces-
sity of a cheap in the system of management in
the office for the purpose of a more efficient check
ow the clerk. ; and when that was determined on,
it was thought due to him, in justice, to place him
in the nine situation in the service as he would have
been in if he had taken his flag in hi. regular turn,
instead of choosing to retain that situation, front
which he bad been in a manner arbitrarily removed,
not for any misconduct or demerit, but for public
cooveoience.
.Mr. ELLIcE bore testimony to the high charac-
ter of Captain Serie, and spoke in the strongest
terms of the `satisfaction to the public with which
he had filled the chair of the Victualling-Office
during the long war, which was also signified to
Captain Serie, on his removal, in a letter from Lord
Melville, which he (Mr. Ellice) had seen.
Si, 1. Corm said, the conduct or the Gentle-
'nets in question at the Board had given the highest
satisfaction to the Admiralty and the merchants.
Mr. Caottalt said, the appointment of Colonel
Stapyltoo to the Chair of the Victualling Baud
111111 set takes place in consequence of soy oppli•
cation in his behalf, nor was the Gentleman himself
previously aware of the intention; but, in consider-
ing, the various mums whose services rendered
them applicable to the situation, he appeared to be
the one most fitted. In addition to which, it being
theu.to contemplation to reduce two of the Commis-

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/4at:y Book], it was (leased advise-
economy to enpoiet one of them
. iustrad of lilting it by • new
whereby • envie& of 1,4001. a year.
to nablie
maid he lied weer entertoined any
insocandeet ea the part of Contain
a fact,-6-11.41 itsegieed that the -Ad.

A tattWitottyhtoi, and
gazet let p way of a
the broken head.
NAVY ISTIIIATES.
then west Wood Committer of So pply,
moved a grant of 64.4191. 111 c 6d.
expenses of the Navy Office.
' the charge for this office is 1794
1796, the third or fourth year of
40,0001. ; and he wished to know there.
seventh year of peace, it could not
the.amount of this estimate. The
from lavt year was 3,0001.; it would
'snow 'Witter say further reduction

said the reduction this year amount.
The establishment was placed on
possible. This Beard was divided
Item and there were but two Com-
). which was certainly the smallest
id form a Committee.
said, if the Hon. Member would
whole estimates he would find Alt ri
inwioners had been reduced iu the last
et the Board. sod three, at the Ports.
Commissioners of Naval Inquiry had recont-
- division of the Board into three Com-
then the atinesation of the Trans-
the Navy Board rendered a fourth
necessary, and, less than two Commis.
well form a Committee. The
...said the superannustions allow-
Inesereed the amount of the reductions.
Hoo. Member would not object to
a issocitewas to persons who,
of public service, were nnexpeet.
without any fault on their part.—
in the present instance had not been
Ile of the existing Act of Portia.
that of the Act in contemplation,
`e economical principle of the gr-
am& of the establishments in

of the Admiralty, the Navy
,•ouri the Victualling Offices, was,
ibe whole, 317 clerks; now it was
Vachon of 54. The expense of
e shmetits it was not easy to cal.
..poseislou (hear, hear!). on account
period, of each clerk's service ;
each clerk `to hive served ten years,
believed to be a fair average, the ex-
' year would be 108,000/., for the
being it saving of 94,000/. He
. the whole of that sum did not come
public pockets as a saving, some snow-
men being made for the support of the clerks who
Mid been reduced ; but the dinrinutiou in that ac-
&runt would not ex ceed2o,ooo/. That would be gra.
dually reduced by casualties, sod by the filling up of
tiny vacancies that might occur in the establishments
;from the list ofcler ks *hotted been reduced last year.
The.reductions had been carried as far as, on the moat
+i id inquiry, it appeared posed* to extend them.
The Admiralty-office had been reduced so low,
'that the illness of two of the clerks had been pro-
ductive of great inconvenience to the progress of
The business. It was therefore not likely that any
farther redactions could be effected.
Sir T. B. MARTIN said. the Committee of 1784
recommended the distribution ,of the business of
*Navy Board into Committees of Correspondence,
.Stores, and 4tccouots, which new arrangement was
carried into effect by Lord Spencer in 1796,
so that the consequent increase of the establish.
anent would appear in 1797. Since then the
annexation of the business of the Transport Board
to the Navy Office rendered another Committee
necessary. The former regulation required three
Commissioners to every Committee, but now they
had only two, and it was not possible to do the busi-
ness with less. The actual reduction on the whole
estimates of this year, as compared with last,
amounted to 989,0001. on a total of 9,311,1991. He
hoped the Gentlemen opposite would cony that
fact in their minds through the discussions out
these estimates, instead of quibbling at small items.
Mr. BERNAL disclaimed all imputation on the
part of himself and his lion. Friends of quibbling,
or intending to harass auy of the departments of
Government ; they only required satisfactory
explenstions on points that were presented to them
as requiriug elucidation, and he thought that but
for their discussions many things now known to the
Boards would never have come to their knowledge.
Sir J. S. YORK thought the present estimate
was cut down as low as it possibly could, consist-
ently with with the benefit of the public service.
Sir 1 COFFIN said. all the reductions had been
contemplated by the Admiralty for months before
any suggestion from that side of the House, mid
they carte carried as list or it with poS•ibte to carry
them. The service could not 'be cut down all at
once.

Mr. HUME said, according to his tr.easu►! of the
reductions. the. country would not be immediately
benefited to the amount that had been stated. But
by Ins mode of making the comparison, the ex-
pense of the four establishments mentioned by the
Honourable Secretary, in 1792 was 58,7191. ; in
the last year it was 185,0001. The reduction. which
the Honourable Secretary had stated amounted to
33,0001., which left the e.tablisliment for the pre-
sent year at 153,0001. Of the reductions which
the Honourslsle Comptroller had mentioned,
amounting to 989,0001.. but a very smell pro-
portion applied to the establishments; and it was
of those chiefly that he complained. Taking the
whole estimate for these establishments, together, in-
cluding the half-pay, andsuperannuation allowances
included, they amounted for 1821 to 2,484,0001..
and for 1822 to 2.453.0001., which ga►ess the amount
of the redoctious 31,000/. on what to called the living
establishments. He now came to the dead establish-
ment, namely, the building. The gentlemen oppo-
site had taken great creditless the reductions they had
made in the article of ship-budding. end improving
theysrds, but he was not disposed to give them err much
credit for those reductions, and he wished the House
not to be disposed to value them too highly. lie
should be extremely happy to find that the Hon.

therefore some little lime shionlil' in fairness be al. •Of 'lrate sitreeetly losi) slid, that he bikini 'alba of tile Nary
lowed tlii-.0 to dispose of sucb stocks ; bat, coo- to lay an estimate of the nee that Oat We era the of I
0 peeled a. he was with the trade, if the brewers neemsery to payoff the digerati's& to the 'their
persisted it their refusal to adopt the prepay course Howes the attimme wield mate '
tl L. 4 Wage appoin where
of loweri.iß th•ir peter when the reduction of the ' exact situ that might be required, but would es- was effected to the '
dety en malt should become mailoble to them, he eedd that elm by about 100.6.01. in order to meet Sir J. Yhitle sal
ohoeld be ready to seised this propose' of the duty' -euuttoggioeise. The Right Host. Centimes (if we suspicion of norm
tit by the Right Honourable Gentleinan.-- • godersesod his rightly) proceeded to own Opt Ills _Sale; bet, in fact,
. lie.t4 ... - •
• 7.13. baxit ar6 eil if thalidditional tits 41111;006.40141"1. . pp v Amato Ise Ilia enteisilo would be mirth,' bed been ti
• •' had afterwards gam
016. aficliniese ihe price were teemed; but he Mr. LoestWW'ggli brought ep aa mama albs , &Meter foe the broh
ta itcmdty "humid Ides " " - - • anima aviosid /it by ibithitiFifai. onto jfi(- • flAi
i; :C, tAlc..qp el, twocilblifipb lifibbibeoesige ehogeer.—Ordeted to be referred toile Ceinmittee• The House then s
tiin ; :o,grosta;). , , _
_. ~ us ! I i.. - -1.4. • of supply. . mad
1_ g; PriVlolJ4M.it, Beltibethe &tot if o Bill' 11ffiPIIRANNVATION. Sir J. Osaoan s
... . 'Ol/4 mg ...teg,•;),ieinsi 6yiwg ow the tax. of whiett he -The Ord.. DIY hr the Committee of INF. *Permit*
Hotta
ingeadr e
-.t tkii) Vs ilPt oilaut ollkor smith! be quite at ply he
I. rti,ittoddodece a clean /Of the purpose which, was 14,0001.; in 11
~t4tria ltObutteil ; bet for his own port he could chair he- said,
Oribefoiicereo atti:teStaPeer:tliewrhileefth hadthe
~,,,, it um 40.0001.
. it 31.
ot :g. ilertake ,to be the framer of such a been made on • former night by his Hon. Friend f„re whys: in the se,
be reduced below tl
ler,,Pc'r,P) be the Wier wader its operation.— the Member for Aberdeen, relative to Mr. Samp-
"itizglarti . . see, lOW ferment held the office of Comptroller of reduction in it hots
Whew sod, tie bad set from the cote- the Cosines at Dover. The Hon. Member had
.4,, „ . .
. Sillw(4 tiglittipated any relief to the nubile, • stated thiethat iedividual had been superannuated
ill_ fi ;sgrfitt Sircreit.e in the consumption of barley, ea a 'pension after fifteen years service. Now ha be desirable to kno,
might be expected.
SirJ.Ositorte mai
• .ht'uLtlg 'ygeril of the tax on salt • audit, tees I*A:tenant) was requested to say, in correction of ed to 10,600/. TI
olje,,t that sweet's' introduction of this that statement, that although the service of the gen- so i„ a wale as in
Ntle eithiimer,hrelelhwcartrthe to tibia eotocllurd iisube. that they
oeatl , C""*"..,74' tre'benat *Dover" lyititatittedhat ttoh:=npyeertlicrisd aolf intom .four Ctwomniihiti
'!U
;tit as, Agit tat' has off • and if•Governeneat his public etrviees should have been augmented in numbere mthat coulde.c
~ , , . ,
'4 Acepreeo p:tcovalie the one for the other, he that statement brifteeir years more, winch he passed Mr. Caoeia sal
: ..11, quid ;,,,gladly stapport Ahem in the ' iesarious sitwatiews of Plymouth and elsewhere pre- look through the re
viols to hie appointment to that comptrollership, five Consinissioners
•` e ~' Els, DascoVjg, thought that time bad better sod that he left the weeks at 63 years of •age, sod
Iyear; two at the I
` - for the 'graideraties of the pemiesities hi as harm Mote of health.
. i ‘ • • •The Commissioner
•,, , t., • 'gist lion.• 'oatmeal, sod suggested the Mr. Hutto raid he had no recollection of the mesded the divan°
volt
yiefob:eti;itatof the, third reading of the Bill wail . eaf the Jetreohen to
t whomt
wthhLhHtitteniuGdemntaldenteilit: initto,s; sdinee tht
h
cl to
,7,11 k. illu be r under the gallery saW, he could 'not reed referred,
fres vile • printed Taurus to the order of the
vocur iii the suggestioe of the Hen. Member for Hamm -40,-.1146 it lippitertd,tbot the individual Committee.t nimbi
airmen could not
r,sverpools for any delay in the posing of this Bill eboio-aboAsi *motioned :wit supessimeated from Hon Geed,,,,
Writild now produce a very orifeeourable impression ibovoiootif weggptrelkr after ilftien'yeate service,
• • the public mind. A. lion. Member opposite ,• without say mention of any other service. He was sure the H
• , nggested ;list the pulic•it •geaeral wooliiiime , -NAVAL PROMOTION. wee. had lessened
the ellowance of
- begsr pleesed with.the retested' the saltage, ' Sir J. 'S. Tease Said he now rose to cell the after some time of
• . i
s, 44.5014,1ent that if a redaction of asp • gee • emeriti's' of the Home to a subject that was
Igodly removed wit)
• . woe tame desirable as • meow* of purely steal, which bad excited great interest The eihmences in
i Ibiglienotber, the•redestiou• of the by museig the officers of the navy, and deeply mode on the scale
' it. AP, 2 t 1,401141.. be fused to Illoory with it lib ' •
Iffirffifeined the professiou. He .meant the ease •scent, but 00 the
4. , , igloo's: of deblietuoggebatimil -. :to! wbich he had !before alluded to of Captain which proved the
' • * Irtaitlit soggetillid Re ii• Abu. Misitit .41.41.;Setie,se« ar'Rear-Adunrolef the White, Who rangement. The
' - ,jg vas not the egieges sologios ilaidissatike lia•beea.preesoleil‘to the rank of Rear-Admiral, the four office,
( *question of thirmit,tax et thegesiesellawwhill ' . ' its order mto his seniority. bawled fay. the Navy, a
..
.it f' Crig'wt#FT:oPeduit hissiressee bOOO/bib three years ago, all Chairmaa df the hut year, for the
'., *toff' tfr edvocust dm sokregoisima of.-amo,bl: ' rindal6ni Based. lie wished teask, whether dm 1169, being a red,
• aitotite ,
lif iii,i,iiveadh!, 1., -.tot
ii
the.ket".
that-when Adm iraltywhandolecteertut
madeind ciohaobaicenwdronktiee otrirs theseteforthest;bwlci
if ift,,qhg;r3Alpt • ,to, and the 'rill situation orhis flag. he teas to be id Ism different 1
oitienal 1p ge regd. i time $410.010170. Mlle as giving sop hie primsotioo ? There
twos ' ' • supposing ere
. i , •
pep. .. . „ ~,. el 2 ipq - painful to the feelings of professional pies, in Mk+ he believe
1 i th hingig4frolle gotbora oamoonced the epee- the manner in which this procnotiqo had taken place. IMWses fur NA yi
lOW.I or I ir: Oshiluims %weal private Bills.•
ke l•r°He disclaimed all personal motives in'brioging. for? present 74,0051.,
,goßtatt.rug.44,sirrrrioss. ward the sohjeet. his only wish being to 'ker odguitted that the
- Mr. ,Paten.posieuteet:.a &titles from "certoin whether the old usage was aboodooed, et 1.0,M$ ista the public r