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HOUSE OF LORDS.

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'ULM'S() AV, MARCH 3.
A Committee (e Privileges, before whom _the
claim of Loon FAIIVHANI came under considera-
than, was held previous to the House proceeding
to other business.
MILIIIA-TRAINING
Lord HOBART moved, that the C• lee of the
Day for the second reading of this Bill be read.
His Lordship said, it did nut appear necessary for'
hitti to say much in explanation of the pheient Bill,
as it was a Bill for training of the Militia for eight-
tind-twer.ty (bye. The gilitia Bill of the last year,
was Confuted to twenty-one days training only, but
experience had shown, that it was expedient to re-
cur n the old praelice of training the Militia for
twenty-eight days, the time specihed in the Militia-
Training Dille antecedent to that of the last year; an:
alteration which could be attended with butt trifling
Addition of expence, ant! but little notable or in-
convenience to the officers.
Earl GRAHAM (Duke of Montrose) said, upon
the duly training of the Militia, so as to render it a
well-disciplined and efficient force, applicate to.any
immediate and sudden occasion, in his conception,
the existence of this country, as a free and indepen-
dent nation, wholly rested. He begged their Lord-
ships. to iecolleft our relative situation with respeet
to other Powers, and particularly France, rendered
more powerful than ever by the accession of other
populous countries, command;mT an extraordinary
and unlimited extent of coast directly fronting our
own shores, and consequently better adapted to the
puspoces of sudden attack or invasion.' France was
now to he contemplated in her new situation as a
strong military power—a nation of armed and fight-
ing people, commanded by a very bold and extra-
ordinary" man, not• scrupulously absurd about the
means of gratifying his views, or atchieving the pur-
poses of his ambition. It was expected that this
country was likely eee 'combine for a considerable
time in a state of peace. He hoped that such would
be the case; but still no man could say, that some
sudden and unforeseen circumstance might not arise
to Leder the recommencement of hostilities unit-
Voidable: it behoved us, therefore, to be upon our
guard, and it was, in his mind, his Lordship said,
the imii•eensible duty of his Majesty's Ministers to
take care, that that great constitutional body, the
Militia, was trained and disciplined so completely,
us to be relied on and looked to as an able and appli-
cable means of defence aetainst the sudden invasion
of an enemy. Regardiag the matter in this line of
reasoning, he could nut think that tivetity-eight days
training, was by any calculation a sufficient period
of rendering the Militia capable of aeiive service on
an emergency. His own idea was, that one-third
of the Militia ought in rotation to be trained for at
least double the tittle stated in the Bill, in order to
render them fit to take the field whenever necessary.
At•the same time that he said this, be.declared that
he clia not mean to oppose the 1;i:i before the
•',s far as it er'ended thc time et' training, it was, in
.iedgenent, better Bill then that of List year;
did not satisfy hit mind, cr by any means pro-
s. • sefileient:y for the security and defence of the
. 'y, under the critical circumstances in which, by
tive elteation of France, she was plered. It
• - - • h!s intention to make any Propositions neon
lea then, but he had felt it to he his duty to
. • tilt he had mentioned to their Lordships, and
• co recommend it to the consideration of his
s Ministers to take the measures necessary
pie. the Militia upon a mote efficient footing next
• .r. For the present year, he thought the coun-
nee sefte, and heel no apprehensions of any present
danger ; but we ought to present a bold front to the
eacrea and convince France, or any other foreign
Power, thae all attempts at invasion lutist prove
hopeless and incl.:au:ll. His Lordship said, he was
by no means peculiariy wedded to the particular
Mode which he had recommended, but any other
ehat might be considered as more practicable, and
would answer the same end, would completely satis-
fy him. All he wished for, sras to see the impor-
tant object that he had stated effeded. He was
aware, that there were, in the many of the
regular men of the troops of the line. Those eer-
ie
tinily might be rendered highly serviceable, by im-
proving the discipline of the rest of the reginients iii
which 'they served ; but what advantage could be ,
lapeZted, if so short a time as twanty-eight days
only were Atot es! for trainin:; the whole ?
Out of those ewerty-eighz days, their Ixn-42:iips
'would hold in mind, that there eeerefout Sundays,
and three or four day; Inuit allowed far the
men's corning avel going to and from the place of
treinieee ; so that there did not rancid above nine-
eni or reenty days ,r-r aaual training ; 'and could' it
expened, t!tat in' that she:: period the Militia
c:; 'all be rendered aree:Ecient !Dice ? His Lordship
ereseaezei his declaration, that hew as not peculiarly
vo-e.tei to the particular mode that he had suggest-
ed, btu: lit Li:wax:it the only objedions that were
likely to he eppoied to it, might be e.o.ily obviated.
Those objeetiens were, in hi.; epprehensien, the ex-
oence, and the is ruble and inconvenience to which
it would stibeeft the Officere of the Militia. With
regard to the expence, it could not be heliered to
amount to more than 60 or 'eteee.):)l. aadone•ly, com-
pared with the twain:nem td sogreat an objet?, that
was a tr:llev cansitlereeione and not to he regarded
by a great cottatry lete the Brltieli Empire ! With
ieg-ard to the trouble and inconvenience it would
occasion. they had in that House many Noble
Lords, of great military experience, who must be
ennscions te the neceeeity ti rendering the Mi-
litia a well-trained and disciplined force, to render
them an efficient means of defence on any emergen-
cy ; and there were many other Noble Lords, ell
had, on every occe don, when the Militia ices called
forth, thought it their duty to stand forth. and put
the:nselves at the head of the Militia regiments,
and take their share in the kftive duties a the ser-
vice. He could not, therefore, for a moment be-
lieve, that Noble Lords, who abed upon twieciples
so honourable and patriotic, wtwtld at all grudge the
Additional trouble and inconvenicnee, that training
a third part of the Militia in the manner which he
tad enggested would put them to. The Earl con-
e:tided his splyetli with recomnumding the:grounds
'and reasons, which he had taken the liberty to offer
to thcir Lorddiip., to the eetinus considenatiou of
.his Majesty's Miiisters agninet the next year, when
lie hoped they world propose some mesueoecalcu- :
iculeted to clrucl the ohjed which he had recone-
Tflelltied. • •
•vv,tl.;ng.tlat fell from. .the

4.:01;le D,u ie cou',3 I.ertalnly be anw,lrdiy the consi-
deration ahis Majesty's Ministers; bat the arrange-
meot proposed in the present Militia, 13i11 had ben
stated and discussed, when the establishment for tite
service of the year had been voted in the other
House. He did not mean to be understood as giv-
ing any decided opinion upon the proposition of tine
Noble Duke at that moment, but he must be per-
mitted to observe, that the Militia had hithcrtn,with
the same period of training, keen found to be a
body fit to take the field on every occasion that had
required their service. The zeal of the OTcers, and
ciao able divipline iatroduced into the militia corps,
had ma..la them Capable of being relied on, as safely
as tine: regular troops, and they had, daring the late
war, entitled themselves to the praise and
of their country. His Lordship did not think it ne-
, cc:A:try to say mote at present.
Earl GRAHAM (Duke of Miontrose) said, it was
undoubtedly true, that the Militia had hitherto
been found to be of the highest utility to their coun-
try; but the reason why,he had called the attention
of their Lordships to the proposition stated in his
former speech, war the new relative situa.ion of the
Ilritislh Empire, compared with Foreign Towers,
particularly France. It ought also to be considerei,
that as many soldiers of the regular troops were in-
corporated in the Militia regiments, they w:rc, in
truth, at once draining the resources of the recfuit-
ing service of the army, and, at the same time, di-
minishieg the clfiC;'3lCV of the Militia fince, tulle;
that body were prop4iy trained and disciplined.
The Bill was read a second time, and committe
for To-morrow.
WOOLLF.N MANUFACTURE BALI..

Lord HOBAIIT, on the part of a Noble Frien I,
who was assent, moved to discharge the Order
respeding ti& further considereinn of this Bill,
which stood fur Tnesslay next, and moved, that it
do stand fur that day month.—Adjourned.

• HOUSE OF' COMMONS.
Titresn.tv, etetteri.S.
Three Committees were bellotted for.
The following Members were chosen 20 ener.::Et
into the merits of a Petition, complaining of an un
due election for the county of Hereford.
R. Uniacke Getmte Lilt!. q.
Rie'it Ilan. Lord GArditer. Lord Vismonst
Haar Hainiit,in, Esq. Ti.o. Bligh, Esq.
AV n. Dick m:on, jon. E;-1. Arm. Diekzis,un, 5,12. Let.
Sir seen Wriltt-Nirv. Bat. Sir Edw. Harropp, Bart...n-1
Thyrwhitt, Hon. Hen. Harcourt.
Henry 'Thornton, Lsl.
NOMINEES.
in. eir;stian Corwen, ESA. and Rt. Hon W. Windham. .
The fallowing Committee was chosen to enquire
into the merits of a Petition, complaining of an un-
due election for the Borough of l'enryn.
G. White Th onas, Fy Rob. Steele, Esq.
S vatfora Duzdale R Jam .s (;err, EN.
Esq. Sir Edw. Sart •
James Butler. Hon. Wm. Woi.:sly Pule.
Hon. John Vaughan. Lonl Cha I Soinertett.
W. Smith !Norwich), Esq. Right Hon. Dudley Ryder.
Marquis of Titchficli. cal Lord Milford.
NoMtNtus.
Lori) Foist. Spencer, mid Hohhouse,
The following Committee was chosen, on the
Stranraer Petition.
Ilan. Laurence I)ondat. Sir W. M Miner, Bart.
Rol,. fnoratin S.r Wittkin
James I lenry kAq. Wynne, Bart.
Mil's, Esq. Janie. Milne,, Esq.
Andrew Foley. John Pena, Esq
lion. Ch... J •ine.trox. George Barclay, EN. and
Sohn litak.zr, Esq. Hen. George Walpole. '
• NOMINEES.
Hon. Rob. Dun la;, and Ilan.John Stewart.
Lord CASTLIREAGH moved, that certain
papers relative to the Affairs of India be !aid before
the 1 louse.—Ordeeed accordingly.
Lord CASTI.EIt EAGIi then gave notice, that
on Thursday nexthe would being forward the India
Budget.
On the motion (.f Mr. ROS%, the Right I-lon.
Witeren PITT obtained leave of absence for one
month, in consequence of ill-health.
Several :slumbers gut leave of absence fur short
periods.
Mr. .P.T.EXANI)ER brought up the Report of
the Committee of Supply on the Army Extraordi-
naries,, selien die Resulutions were read a second
time and agreed to.
Mr. BAL.WELL objeCted to the precipitancy
with which this measure was hurried through the
House. It was a measure of the highest import-
ance ; and before the House agreed to Resolutions
which went to render annual taxes petnement, the
most satiefaaery explenations and the most mature
deliberation *ere necessary and requisite. He did
not perceive that such requisite explenation had
been given. The Irish Papers had not been more
than two days on the table, during which tiele seve-
ral Members, who would b, most inclined to in-
quire into their conceits, were engaged en Commit-
tees, which occup:ed their time from morning till
night. The Hon. Gentleman then reeepittdated
most of his argaments of la a night, and pactianlarly
objeCted to the Resoltition which respeeted the Lee-
thee of Ireland ; the operation of which, he car.-
tended, woeld b to enable the Eaglish 'l'airaer to
import leather into Ireland, entirely to the clisAsi-
vuntage of the It ish ne-mutnCturer.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCIIEQUER
eepresse.l n:s strprise, that the /len. Gene.exuan
should pet severe in his ohjeelions to the Resolutions,
after the lull and he conceived satisfaCtory explanee
don which was given last night by his Right Hod..
Frie:d (Mr. Comas'). The Hon. Gentleman was
then informed, thit the annual A.l'i would eepire
on the ttith oil:I:tech; it was therefare necessary
• that something should be done ag tiost that period.
The Floe. (;entleman might raeolled, that notice •
had been given befote the recess, by his Right Hon.
Friend, cf his intention to bring this measure for-
ward, and •surely the intermediate time afforded full
opportunity for enquiring every necessary informa-
tion. But if the Hine Gentleman still thought his
objeCtions well founded, he coal(' introduces clause,
for the purpose of altering the Bill, if necessary,
during the present Session of Parliament, so that the
adoption of the measure now ssould not preclude •
any future alteration, or even a repeal of the
altogether.
Mr. COItRY and Mr. BAG YELL spot:,; a few
words in explanation.
Mr. SFIERID.kN eeld, that a more important
measure could not be brought before the House,
than that of rendering the taxes of 'lreland perma-
nent. He could not see the necessity of ,pressing
measures different from those adopted by the Par,
Lamm of !raved, sehe were the best qualified to

of oval tor the advantage of the coun-
try. Notic.;, it is true, had Veil given, but the ne-.
Cesseey documents had not been produced. The
Right Hon. Gentleman says, it may be repealed ;
hut he did not connive that as any argument for its
adaptiel. He wished to know what was the objec-
tion to tale old mode ; and why not pass the act fur a
year, and then, after a fell discussion, proceed. if
necessary, to reuder the taxes permanent ? If no-
thing else was to infleence his opinion en the pre-
sent occasion, but the expressions of a late Right
Hon. Gentlemen (Sir John Parnell), who foresaw
the present measure, end ennsidered• it one replete
with mischief, ho should objed to it on that ground
only. resting entirely on so great an authority; and
unless the most satisfadory explanatien was given,
he should state his übjedions at a more convenient
opperunity.
CIIANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
sal .light Hon. Friend would have brought
Cow r :he measure at an earlier period, but wait-
ed ro. . attendance of the grish Members. He
wis • eare of any objef.tion which could be
m: f , present measure, which went to give
t:1 the advantages of a perm :ea reveals?.
' fie .•. •i, cirer:e a public debt so intimately
ealw:de her credit. As to annual votes, he
r. - • 'ii,ect to churn, as occasioning much confusion
. • !tile; and if he was to propose such a men-
. •..is country, he was confident that the ef-
• our Stocks would very soon be sensi'oiy felt.
SITE: DAN coneen.ied, that the custom of
ithtg annual setts; in Ireland. was a constitutional
shuck on the expenditure cf yak money. He
wanted to see whit Ireland would reetiee in return
fur such a cleeek. The Debt of Ireland Tres coa•
traded, when the grants ware voted annuaily ; and
the Irish Creditor, when he lent his money, ex-
petfted to have the taxes annually voted for aaswer-
ing the saine
The Resolutions were then agreed to, and leave
given to bring in Bills accordingly.
The CHASCELLO:t. cf the EXCHEQUER
moved, that when the House should proLved to
business on Thursday neat, the names of absentees
should be set aside ; and euch as absented them-
selves from. Selel Committees, without sufficient
excuse, be taken into the custo?.y of the Sergeant at
Arms, and not discharged without a special order
of the House.—Agreed to.
Mr. FOX suggested the propriety of postponing
the consideration of such elediou petitions as re-
mained after the business of dhursday next, until
after Easter.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
agrezd with the Hon. (lentle:nan, and said he
should avail himself a the suggestion.
On th? motion of Mr. Wicgttam, the Bill for
preventing Irish Revenue Officers from voting at
hlertions, was read a third time, and passed.
The CHANCELLOR of etc EXCHEQUER
moved, that the Order of the Day, for the House
resolving itself into a -Committee of the whole
House on the But for enabling his Majesty to set-
tle a Revenue on his Royal Highne)s the Prince of
Wales, be now read.
The SPit.txdt having left the Chair, the Bill
went through the Committee; and the House being
again resumed, the Report was ordered to be re-
ceived to-morrow.

On the Motion of Mr. Coeur, the Order of the
Day, on the Irish Malt Bill, was discharged.
Mr. VANSITTART moved, that there be laid
before the House, an account of the number of
ships, and their Tonnage, cleared out and entered in
at the ports of London, Bristol, Liverpool, I full,
Sundetland, Ste. for three years, ending the .sth of
January I
Also an account of the number of Ships cleared
out and entered in, in the Greenland Whale Fishery,
with the quantity don and blubber imported.; and
the number of men and boys engaged in the same,
for three year,, ending sth Jan. 1 nO3. Also, for an
acconnt of thi bounties on hemp and flax, for
three years last past ; and the account of money re-
mainin; in the Treasury, afte:. payin7 the Judges'
salaries, to Jth .Tan. I O3.—Ajjournei.

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T LIE PRESS.

LONDON,
FRIDAY. mAkcil't.

It was expe&ed, that some warm deb :I:413 would
have taken place, in the House of Commons early
after the recess. At present, however, we perceive
no symptren of it.—The new Opposition do not ap-.
pear to have g Etrength, anJ probably do not
wish ;to risque a trial, that might 'expose,. their
weakness.—Leave of absence was last night ob-
tained, for enle month, for Mr. Pt rr, on accousit of
th.

We hare received letters Lover, which state,
that the pestilential diwate, which has been raging
in Fraacc, has readied that pint nd Deal ; but we
are desirous of hoping, that our inio.raation may be
erroneous. Shoup a It be true, we trust immediate
;neaps will be.take3 to prevent it from spreading.—

The first parts of he Civil Coie, pres Anted to the
I.eg6lative Body by the Government, do not essen-
tially differ from those presented last }ear, part of
which ining re?..(214, the r.iiole wAs withdrawn.

COURT OF COMMON COUNCIL.

Yesterday the Lord Mayor reported his Wiest
answer to the Address, which was ordered to he
entered upon the Journals. Several petitions and
reports were read and agreed to, except one, which
was from the Committee of General Purposes, stat-
ing', that in compliance with diredions, they laid
before the Court an account of the expcnces in and
at the Mansion-house, in the Mayoralty of Sir
John Elmer, Knt. amounting to .53151. 7s. 63.
that 20091. 16s. (part of said sum)was by order of
Court ; 1051. 17s. Od. by order of the Committee,
and 30:11. Bs. usual charges, and which arise every
year ; the remaining sum of 28931. 6s. was the ex..
pence of the Slate-Bed, and the furniture of the room
wherein it is placed. This gave rise to a very spi-
rited-debate.

Sir JOIIN E A writ explained what he had ordered,
which amounted to about 601. He said, that he had
represented to the Court that a state-bed was neces-
sary, and estimated the elpence of it at 4001. cur-
tains ✓JJI. and other things, in the whole, 7,501. He
Said, that if he had ordered a bed, ts:c. ararnmting to the
su;n charged; it would have been :L reflection upon
his character.
- - _

Mr. Pis ILL fps said, many things were ordered by
I:ir John Earner beyond those given by the Commit-
tee; that patterns of -every thing .were shewn tr.) the
Lord or Lady Mayoress, who ordered carpets, &c. of
larger dimensions ; and that Sir John particularly
said, that if the things sent in were not elegant they
should be sent back ; that the silk alone cost more than
IWO]. It was at last agreed, that it Should be refer-
red to the Committee to examine and again report.
'mile office of Clerk to Smithfield Market was bal-
lotted for ; six Candidates stood the ballot ; and be-
tween four and five o'clock the Court declared
Mr. Themas Tuckey to be duly elected; who, in a
handsome speech, returned thanks to the Court, and
reigned the office of Collector of Newgate Market;
whereupon his Lordship declared the same vacant,
and appointed the next Court of Common Council
for the election of the same.