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HOUSE of LORDS, Dgc. 19.

Their Lordships assembled •about four o'cl,,ck
to-!sy. io pursaauce of iheir adjeuroaseat ou Mou-

REGENCY.

Earl SPINCIR said, he was induced at this par-
ticular period of their prim. ediugs to propose a
questiou to the Noble Secretary opposite (th- Earl
of Liverpool) Of a •iy other 4 ffis ;tdaissty's se.eants, I
He Tres swore of the irveirolority of his mod net ip do.
jog hoonase the inquiry he ff•Odellf fell. of making.
regrded the Report of the Committee appointed to I
eitemine the Physicians reletive to the present state
of His Majesty'shesilth.witicli.iii pima of factories not
yet laid upon their Lord.liips' table. and thereto. r I
supposed to be uoknoan to the Howie. Burs with '
a view to the couveniessee of their Lotd.hips' tour, I
Nod 'his owu senile of duty, nod at the same time ; I
trusting the candour and Itheralt.y of the Noble
Lords opposite wool I torru,e his pretest departure
.from a s,rict line 41f proceeding, lie hoped the No-
Lk Secretary would feel no objection is declaring
whit was the iiiteut,on of His Majesty's S•rvalits
with ;Nerd to their future proceed:nz ; and if they
had any propusitmn to make fur the purpose of su,i-
piling the pret-ent defect in the exercise of ti,v
K.ngly Power, what would be the uature of that so-
tended propusition ?
The Earl of Ltrearoot. auswered, that in de-
Ceti-tic:. to the ff,liSOllo suggested by the Noble Earl.
;It ass not only his wish to waive auy idea of irrego-
Linty, lint he most williogly rose to state the ua-
I tore of the proposition he intended to make after
the Report of the Committee rhombi be laid upon
the table. The proposition he aimed to would di-
-04-trill-elf into Iwo parts! first, the declaration that •
th-re yaws a defect tit the present exercise of the
I{l4 Prerogative ; and, secondly. the course of
' proceeding which might to he adopted for the pur-
pose of remedying that defect. There could be
little doubt of their unanimity in concluding thst
the evidence coutaitted in the Report of the Cons-
mittec would amount to a inelaueholy proof of the
eeercioe of the Kingly Power being auspended. sod
tile only quertnin which could be roared would be
as the coarse of procrieting which. in their Lord-
ships' joilginent, ought to lie pursued. re-
spect to measures and regulations which ini4ht Peso
Le metro-ary. they would be adopted upon the prm-
ciple of expediency. He could assorts! their Lord-
ships. th it aa to the second pot of Ins iinemled
proposition, it was the settled opinion of Nl4•
sty's Servants, that the precedent of 1,118 and I 7eo
was founded in wisdom and policy ; that it via- COO-
sistent w.th the history and the constitution of the
ciitintr..-1 Hear. hear from the opposite side of
Me Houle )—and OW it ought iciiiiitely to he lit-
lowed upou the press at unfortunate 0011,400.
So fir, he trusted. his answer insoldl be sausfactury
to inc inquiry of the Noble Earl ; namely, that it
wits their lutentiOtt to 1400 the WOW course of
proceeding as that which wee pursued iu
As to the third parts . ;he lisiohations, which would
, emSruce the regulation* and oneiourra much their
Lordships might also thiuk proper to provide. lie
hid only to repeat. they did Hot iforer *principle of
policy similar to the last. but must be foinuled upon
the Theory ache tiaras awl with them, would
'gourd to euesibbsuiLie veriatirou Us *CU
*Averted to the tipp4 when the Resolutions could ho
most corivettiemly Wien into eon.ideration, cod
'hotter,. it hid been hi. intention Sc. fit an early
day in the saborqoeut week ; but their Lordships
would recollect. it appeared by the votes of toe
' other Muse, that the state of the natioo w-oild fall
oititev diets iloscitssion toonorrow ; *ha, the result
of tiieir duo:apnoea would lit on the it was
, I.iiposeolole 4641 improper for him to antici,iate; but
imot probably their Lairdshipio would dad it 'Hwy..
MTV to sit again on Saturday. for the purpose of
•
rececistoo any rinninumeatioit GOww the other
House ; if that it ti'd happen. he intended

tO promise to' finial; die subj,!et node? &bait Lei-
elsipe eliusidierstion ems 4140 earliest plisohle ere of
*eft mask. in. the iiiiool Mite. elvistely•o4lty
[OMNI OD ...Tuesday, it ism out biters, their ishoold
inert oa aloarlsy, mist therefore- Vrattesday asp.
peered the edition day ois which they could meet ;
✓od if the House should f-el no ,itivetostis he
ahotild rether none Thursday . sat'imight, as it
would afford a more ronvessirat opportuoity for the
atteinlance of many Nobe Lord!,
E,rl SlieNeEß expressed his otiligetinus to the
Noble Secretary for the candid and open answer
returned respecitiog the eIMITNM eforisceeding which
it was in contempratilal •Li ;emote. Although he
had &parse.' from the line ol minutely to proposing
the present Twitters upon the Ressort. before that
Report was hunt upon the table. sod although any
of his own sentiments at this u use might
let euneidereil imasetare and ampler, yet such
w.ta the impurtsate anti tineentinde 011ie subject,
that he ventured to take the present °ppm-minty of
even pretuvorely owprening hie awls sense or the
prarrrety of the mealtime iuteuded to be propeeed ;
and he felt himself, nee Peer of Parliament, trope-
ri tttt sly celled upon to discharge his duty. Perhaps
he might not entirely 00inprehend felon fell front
the Noide-Secretary. but so far lie understood. that
the preliminary step,. or. to speak with greater pre-
vision. the. Resolution«, would be exactly
with those of I tBs. At that period he ( F., rl Spencer)
WWI a ITMleh yl/11111trt Peer in that Hauge, awl Ise
did not take is initeh noire active mot to their pro:
cettlin.ts than that of giving his We. But swell
was hie (minims theta that he rott•i,h•rtod the :qtre
ceedinge not only dangerous. but likely to siti,vett
Ike Constitution. Since that period. and Mora
penis-01101y since the etelaoehuly iii•Ci•siety had
arisen, which called.fer a m-ronableistioa of his
sentiment*. he found his former opinion strengthen-
ed, as well from Avelino as from reading. from
(-esteem* with those who were moat likely
to think correctly on the question. sod indeed
from every sour. a to which lie had tinned his
mind for Information. He beheld the eitmeion
of the Constitutiou with concern., and lie
moat anxious to call their Lord,hips' attention
to the subject. He awned they would prisceeil
to its consideretion with denude% with earnest-
ness. and wilt solemnity. lowtead or the delsy
which had Nice', place, they ought to have peas.
seeded in this state of tie comities to bore swipe
plied the desert in the exercise of the Kingly Antic,.
rity. The Noble Secretaty had tAnnated that at
knight be expedient for their La &hips to meet,
cm Satutrlay. to receive a tomannincatien Ginn the
other Howe, Lett if it w• 01 meant that they should
postpone their proceeding till they should kiwi,
what pss.wd in the other House. he would sub-
mit to their Lordship: judgment if souls a course
of proreeding be consirtent with their wan
dignity. or their rank in the Constitution. They
were the F.,tittes of the ft alllll, mid they were
bonnd in rititt• to low' no time—no not a duy—..ot
even an hour in sopplying any defect in the Third.
If one branch of the Convittition was more con•
cernett than the other in protecting the Monarchy.
it Vlll,l the !loose of Lord*. The inevisent Amy de-
fect or vacancy arose in the exercise of the kingly
Power, it was the duty of both Houses to remedy
the deficiency ; but if more centesimal' could be-
long to one of them, it was to the !tome of Lords.
He took the present ooportnnity of chclertug his
s-ntimenta, not because it war the most proper
time, but because he was itteciuus to have it
understood that he now put to his claim to urge
eie setae atloUtienta Open any future Alic, and
that it May not be ejected why he kid tan
LOCO° an earlier period of staltiog known that
he wished to nulopt a different proceeding. Ills
nhp-et wee to sponge th- Noble Lords, that lie
should he decided/ silverre to soy proposition
upon the preceileot of 17e3a. God be thanked. •'
he said, that theme measures were not caw, d
into effect; for had the experiment been tried,
he was COlitident it would have endangered the
existence of the Constitution. Notssithai Amt.
ing it was not probable the attendance of the
Peers to-morrow could be numerous. on lic-
erimit of the period of the season. he still con-
sidered it the duty of their Lordships to attend
When the Report should be received, for though be
was not 'intending to utake any propouti ,
he considered it would he expedient to procee d
by another way, that of Aditreas; awl the Julie ct
of their meeting was certainly one which ought to
be seriously attended to by every Peer. There-
fore he should wit sit down without moving “Tha•
their Lordships I.e summoned to-nsw row."
The LORD CHANCELLOR was about to put tie
question. when—
Lord Gnats n.t.s rue, and declared Ilia ensienr-
renter with thine obs-rvittioes of his Noble Friend
(Spencer) respecting the imploprietr of delay. He
believed it would eppenr from the Report itself,
that more ceneure was due to that de me than was at
first cooteinplated, and he thanked Grid, the( in.
stead of taking env part to, hr trot litre mirmely op-
posed such a proceeding. Even at thin hour, aft-r
delay of wren weeks (a delay which most in silent-
ly had been stuilionsly protracted), they were sell
suffering under One of the grrweat calamities
could befall the Conetitution, and still the 'err, tie
of the Kingly Power was impended. anti even the
coasiderat how ouch a defect uhl be remedied.
ar m-il intentionally postponed till a 111C4.6.11 of the
year phead in their way our day of all others whieh
a Cleriikliau would dedicate to the lours of rritgion,,
so that they were prevented f,n,n r..1,V.1.1Vit; the
great Interests of the Empire. lie could reit ea-ily
suppose that the Noble Secietery, in alluding to
the receiving any c cation from the other
Rouse. meant that their Lord-hips should post.
pone their 'sees proceeding* till they were informed
w"iatlisd transoirril In the lloat.eniCoMMons. Stich
propusittori would he as lio.tilr the Cowinitntion
as it would he ihignioliiii:lo throe I.o4,llifts' dignity.
if thrt (louse coold ever so fir forget it. ditty, mod
sliced! vs isi t 0 thin of the
other House, their Lordships *mild not noly he
degraded. hot they would commit • bre:ich of
alle-
giance to their Soverevo. Sn far he co,,carrrrl
with the optiv;on &Reeved by his Noble :
has he costaiderrd. himself cm:yelled from it •rit•-•
of duty to differ with bias as in toe srntnarnts
whit-ii he hail delivered retailer Its the pirn-
!erdfiri_ w
ePIPof It was o, retry, th..,
"MUM 'WOW tot vari.ince with his
Friend on this particular low.; et; for on. most

*then 64 11,111 how! to Rod their mrnti.n.n•.

licelso.ll;erifil vi•is:l4 such thew sillier II

*smarty. unit he frit t diffidence, rind
+•6 r dtrttu•t of the correctittn.s of his own opt-
%hen it lin inucn .14H• teal groin thin of tint

Nwile Frirint. sowi Part neither of th,tit

wii.ild pertitiachopih, oilio-ry tern opbsion
they cotertanue.l it nn former occir•iou ; at►d
Full Is been t•envimcrd by tome or riwomistisoce
th4t the initials. he inthiesaerl were *too& he
fruited he hail 'so much credit wmn•lK their
I,orelohips for Integrity of prisolplo iiiiat tris.4lthese
of clior ...ter. that tiodnug would hese prevent..
hi,it from openly Ai/tonal/ the atters•ino of
his tnital. A great hart of his life wall *oil
N► have been ►prat 14 the active ,'wet=s 01
life, and if (err years his 3 been wooredestrtert tsi re•

tiretnentohow I;ant been no Iron revsevrd filing the

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etottiogouo of Indolence. Since the peritot of 1788.
he had eq opitfutonsty of reviewing hal ow., eon.
&tut, mid of rrfileettn4 noon the principle of the
nataanre which woo chiefly that of hos rev-red
Friend (Me. Pitt) ; awl writing wide all his i.otrtiti-
hey for that great man anti the policy of hi. ficts
he wee onti•tiret of the wisdom of that proeweifin: ;
hot hed the eourae of time. or tI.• 'tomato,/ of his

own mind. pointed out to him the error of his
opinion, nu bin,. of prejudice. ur my teller con-
shoul.l hove influenced him mit is

have ingenuottoly retracted hht tentim:6o •• Hia
NolAo Foca4 would pardon him log not:ethic
whdt he bollymed to have been merrly • Ispar
ritorisp.i.)", 'when he ustutimo d th. Ir teklux Hp-ill
then to cippty the Thud c Estate. mid he f.boire

. .
'fart enteric notecrti it trecAttee many wrre the et.
roneous tJr.r *Mich 'wised is the out id o Witt

subject. The two ha/ been cal cid Two

&eaten. and the King thr Third Eftele lett the
King did not compote otte of the Estill, of the
radio. There were three F.eatts-eehe L. 01.14 Soi-
-611141. the Lewd, Teinpnril. and the Commie...
—To these &Wet it tl.l.nigert, if a defect mom
in the rterrier. of the Kinitly Power, to remedy
Viet defect by trim, lug-Writer Act. They were
not to this ie,tanet called upon to till • y
var-atiey in' he Coiwit—uthere was no vacancy, hot a
defect, on the present occasion. The pol,tical en-
reedy of the Kent; rinasined entire. and it gave
effect to all the prof:-rilings of justice. In the
Kiuge rtim- erie. were isme,l, and by the a.ie
thentr of the King. (Imes of Justice adinirmiteirrt
the law—iadced, through fiction of lee, he sees
prevent in some of those Coons; therefom it was
Omelet inestit7 existed, bet there eta a defeCt in
the exercise of the no& Pewee, lie ett.trPoord
hie appretiation of this &intervene-is made th . night
by the Noble Secrets' y ; sod he had a .11 011,W rVed
that the piinci le of the pecee•etings in 1788 was
formdiel in 'Wiry, mini consi.teut with the Conan-
mint). and was apelicable to the preteet times;
and tie idol afire-d th et the other see.mirea and ye-
gill were liable to he varied according 40 the
exitedirecy of time nn d 4'lreltrnl.tarce.
' The Earl of Ltuti-nn.tre observed, that the
Nnble Lords hid cer t May deviateit from lie ere.
cedent of 1798. wire rcsiiect to the len:( (telly
which hart prevent, i the defect in the eartiet.e of
the Kingly Power Iron brine remedied. pl. ttie
two period., delay se tor Present was much more
injurious tan in 17118. For then we were in a
state of piormind prime. hut now there w the
moat urgent necessity for aeniili:ig the least ponsibist
on account of the critical sitii.tiort io which
the affairs of the country were placed. He
el -
dared hini.elf advert! to the sentiments deviated by
hit No, ~t• Awl enutemiki, time
every tummy!, of t xperliency and ef regard to
the Constitution retteinmended a different mettle
from a legisl•ttive nee j that of Address was rer.
tainly wefend):.• n. more effi..4ci in.. The pro-
ceedings of 1753 had hero called n precedent, red
yet they were incomplete; but onfmtuoattly tor
these *h./termed it so. there was another precedent
of the 9111me•yeer, mimed by another Ferliiituent.
in another kingdom, end who were now iu their
integral repecity a part of the two.Hooses. The
itrictriitet which Ireil beta had 'loon in the support
of this precedent were not favourable to the ur
tertiou of monarchy. nod in alter times might be
subvert the Consul utiou; for in a former period of
one history. w • enght to re. rile et ti at the two
House.. by a Legislative An, eithout the int ir •
vacation of • Sovereign. bet aside the Monarchy.
To make en Act in the manlier described by his
Noble Friend (Grenville", unassented to by any
one on the part of the Crown, would be, in his rim.
Ilion, a dead letter, null, and of no rffect. Thee
wet a statute which already devlsmil such en Act
not hmilitet, end that the judges were not booed
to notice tt. The 'Brett ant need efßeeciou mode
wet undoshtedly tied, of ma Address to his Rapt
Highnere the Prime of Wel !tom,' it would prevent
the injurious delay which would otherwise be pro.
longed._ _ _

'eh- Eng sr Ltvesitotit. rn.e to inquire of tits
Nohlr Farl Nrpeneet), if he int.-nded to mike our
propositi..n to-morrow in consequence of the Lords
Lyng rnunmaned.
L..ril ilimt.onn said. it hid been bis NoLle

F tention to put in big claim for the
po.e of rirginc ire propriety of a different mode of
pence: Amu, thonch he did not apprehend • ,y pro..
vo.itimi %Auld tw I,rought forward; bit he could
only apply this olvervation to hints. If and by Noble
Friends present. Ile *mild also say a few words as
to the precedent of 178 d. which he Canitienea hr.-
tile to the principles of the Constirotion ; and
tnerelore now gave notice, whenever Mar proooW-
tion shonld he moved, if no other Nolile Lord did.
he certainly would move the previous question.
He should oat *ulade their I.,,rdships with his
sentimercs at this time: he recommended the mode
by Address; sent after • Kent become so
pointed, be agreed with hit Nwile Friend (Gren-
ville) that some kgislative provision would he Decry.
trey ; but that could not be executed until • Re.
rot supplied the pliee of the Crown, d whose
assent would give effect to an Act of the two
Houses.
T ye Loan CltA•ttaa then pot the qnestions
and it was ordered that the 1411,114 be summoned.
Earl SPEncrri. in answer to the inquiry of the
Noble Seer,tor.., said. ha Aldan' ct know that to
toy ptopr.sit'On. .111• f ass in hi• ilispo.
s▪
it.no So 'ant any N.A.,. terra 140
Lord Gar uvii.Le inquired of the Noble Sst-tr.
hey ILtirtarwoll, If it was his invention to %wise
the Remlisiluns on Thursday ae'ai.ight.
The E:rl of LivEttroot. answered it was ce--,

tainlVltia intention to make such a Inutinu, if no
circumstance satervened to prevent him.
Lord Galin isi.a still was desirous of certainty
with respect so the Noble Secretary's intention.
The Earl of Livearoot. said it was certainly his
intention, but it MAY loapoosible to foretel whether
circumstances might intervene to prevent such a
motion. . . . .

Lord liou.stro observed. that to prevent further
sioobto, if the Not,le Lords opposite, rind nut choose
to sake any proposition on that day, he now give
siirtiteht would make i.eII of a ditlereut nature.

PROXIES,

The Earl of LtvLite7iotsi; d. there was a doubt
about the voting of Proxies, and he should on
Thursday se ght, most probably, move for a
Contioritre to search fur precedents as to the vot-
ing or Proxies upon any former occasion.
Earl Sranilol.6 was imputed at the Noble Se-
cretary. if he possessed any doubt, relative in the
right of Proxies, hut he could assure him Proxies
h•il oo right to rote in the Eddies of the realm.—
Besides. It would be more prudent to move fur a
Committee ti-morrow, if that were doubtful, as
the;r Lordships might be called upon for their votes
on l'ituraday se'ant. ht.
The Earl of LIVKILfunt remarked, that the
House would most probably be in a Committee of
CA whole House on that day, lind consequently
the Nord- observatiou did not apply.

Earl Seaaistorg stated, that the question might
•rise whether or oot they should go lute the Com-
mittee.
_

The Errl of Ltrettroor, at length Ezreed, he
would wave for a Conotalttee to search tor prece-
dents, to-toorrovt....Aljnorned lull tomorrow.

EAST LYDIA HOUSE. DEC. 19.

Thie day a Quarterly Court of Proprietors was
held. WALTER MULL, P..q. in the Chen.
The proceedings of the tircuer meeting were
read over, and the first Resolution adopted wee,
that • Dividend of 51 per cent. should be paid
upou their capital.
The 'dory of Captain James Salmon, Military
Seat tery, was, on the motion of Mr. Jackson. or.
dered to be increased front 1,0001. to 1,5001. •
}tar.