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MEETING OF IRISH CATHOLICS.

Meeting called by pablic
Aseocietion Room, Corn
taken by Nies:nig
appointed Secretary to
the Meeting, which
embracing the whole of the
etttleman would have the
net of the Meeting ; in the
Worded him, of the ab-
home questions, which had
intended provincial meet.
their own mode. The
after the following
Secretary of which
ten of the Province,
respectable Meeting
I prepare the dinner
the Meeting, and
that a correspon-
preparatory to the holding
- ---,tee were also making
was aware of what
Munster Meeting,
o him, and request-
Secretary to the Catholics
slid so, and he was
gentlemen concerned.
and every where, to
called upon. Fie
-did, being called
authority tickets I
His answer was,
doing so ; and the
s who did so.
legality of the Act,
question was put
to be asked, lip••
was suggested that
_ be the best one for
. the menthere belonging to
Never, propose that the meeting
.ore the sitting of Parliament, as
Jested the last t4ession, a Bill might
,em meeting. Another reason was, that
.01 Association were likely to be very im-
.lel be of material advantage to the interim of
they should receive every publicity through the
oolitic press, it would be well that they would not
the proceedings of Parliament.
The CHAIRMAN said, the matter was In their own hands. The
none their petitions were sent to Parliament the better. He was
eked, would they sle4ert from petitioning? His wish wan never to
an, they should never injure their cause fit ndividual adyan-
Me would never desert from petitioein 'it had no ell her
Mao that of exposing the grievances and injustice under
which they laboured.
Mv. RAMO te agreed with the Chairman.
Mr. O'Constr.t.t. here entered, and was received with great an.
plans He aildresaed the Chair, and said, that at the late Aggre.
gate Meerlng a resolution was proposed, recommending constant
petitioning. There were MI many disadvantages in their relaxing
the esetitutional right which they possessed, that the propriety of
myth aresotttslnn was quite apparent. During the short state or in.
action in which their atairs remained lately, the English newspa-
pers bad entered into an active, persevering species of enmity
anise them. It wits hut natural that they should have done so,
" for." said the Learned lientlemen, " we are right, and they are
wrong." Ile had entered upon the present question the more res.
Sly, as he intended to propose that a Committee should be ap-
pointed fist two purprema ; the Rot was, to prepare the fora) of peti.
s iollll.—/ he second, the regulating of the meetings of the late Ansel.
svion which weer to be held. As to the lint, they had so often pe.
tattooed, Sot that was easily arranged; they would have merely to
reiterate their former prayer, demanding emancipation as a right—
that while they would receive it with the utmost thankfulness, yet
that they would seer solicit for it, but upon that immutable ono.
tip).. They should refer to the treaty of Limerick, the provision
of which Mr. Peel said should not he broken, and those provisions
were to reinstate the Catholic; in the same stylises which they
possessed in the reign of Charles li. And could it be denied that
Out Catholics enjoyed seats in Parliament during that reign ? He
that did an, he (11r. O'Connell) would refer to the page of history.
These were the topics which should be contained in their put.
nos, and they should be constant in their supply of them, for
they Wien) the effect it had open SB4lllo* 4 Ikaland when
they, the Catholics, were pouring in from sixteen to twentefietl.
ties a day into Parliament. The presenting of petitions was of
the greatest Ilse, calls for inquiry, and refutes the absurdity of
charges which might be brought, agninet them. A resolution
passed st the late Aggregate Meeting relative to the meeting of the
ea Assochnirm. That Association could meet for fourteen days,
lent there could be no senexion between the first and second ingot.
AS. A sassed in seedy is a day or teas, **VIM( the kW
ask sfibds en that subject. The Government were determined
then tbeir grievances should be perpetual, but that their petitions
to be relieved should be only occasional. He thought that the best
Ray to ammeters the mu would of the old Association ould be the
6th or January, after the Christmas holyd les, as every gentleman
would wish to be at home at Christmas. The Parliament had been
prorogued until the 6th of January, but not for despatch of btisi-
r.ess, and it was likely it would be farther an until February. The
Association could arrange the parochial meetings, and make pre.
tuitions for a national dinner to their friends of every persuasion.
rile latter so ild have a good effect ; it would not be merely the
tornmencerrae it. but the enniinuatice of good feeling. Mr. O'Con-
red concluee I by proposing that a Committee be appointed for
tnirteen days—in be within the words of this Act, for the purpose
ot preparing petitions and suggesting the necessary arrangement,

Um of flit
with the

:Ifs= attic stated that it was an error to suppose that the peo.
pre of England were opposed to their claims.
Mr. °Tooke tr. handed hie resolution to the Chairman, who
suggested that the month of December wool., be the better time fur
braiding the proposed meeting. The resolution was then altered
as to the time, and being put from the Chair. passed unanimously. ,
The Committee was then being named, when upon the appoint.
ing of
Mr. Miclasiris klaxons—that gentleman having entered the
Mona inquired the nature of the Committee, when the Chairman
teed the resolution just. passed ; to the latter part of which Mr.
Mahon objected. The words objected to were... that they should
seek for unqualified emancipation without considering any other
ablittliCt. question." Mr. Mahon conceived that such a resolution
pat jutlgior the intended meeting at Carlos.
,Mr. L. PLUNIET thought Mr. Mahon quite right.
•Mr. O'Curr NELL said that they were the words of the resolution
iamb had passed at the Munster meeting.
Mr. ()Tow NELL here read the resolution.
Mr. Manua did conceive that the latter part of the resolution
peojodged the meeting at Carlow. There were two subjects upon
which.he wished to have the public opinion ; he meant the wings.
V that opinion were against his be should bow to it. He wished
for discussion upon them, and not allow them to be got shut of by
4 aide wind. He could think that agreeing to the liner part of the
areolution would be the means of tieing them up from expressing
;nary opinion.
Mr. O'Crismirxx perfectly agreed with Mr. Mahon on the sub-
jecr,, but said that if Mr. Illation wished for discussion, there
*saki be a substantive motion made on the subject.
Mr. Maltose—That is all I want. Any road by which the eb.
:an I seek for ran be obtained, is the stole to me.
Q'Cow•Ett said, that to connect the wings with emanci.
patron now, would be to Injure the Catholic cause. However wise
t might be before, it would be the very opposite then. Peel and
Witt:Kral owl them as arguments against emancipation. Their
Anis on the wing relative to the 40s. freeholders would be In
print next day. He would suggest that day week the the discussion.
M. Alums, asked Mr. OTiosittExt. would be bow to public
cerioion io case it should be decided against him?
Mr. 111 [CR *AD O'Griestax said, be naiad advocate the 406.
freeholders, and he trusted he should net be alone upon the oo-
castpo.
Mx Lintz Pumas? wimired the manly spirit of Mr. Richard
- •
He thought that - - notice of so kw
sufficient. %) wield

UNIVERSITY INTELLIGENCE.

01101 D, Nov. 12.
On Thursday last the following Degrees were con-
ferred:—

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Matter qf das—The Rev. Thomas Oliver Oootichild, Exeter
College; Francis c. Beifour, Magdalen Jlall ; Charles Pitt, Christ
Church; and the Hev. William Home. Christ Church.

THE CHURCH.
The Lord Bishop of Winchester has strongly recom-
mended the resumption of the everting service in the church
of Chri tcburch, which had been discontinued, and has
himself subscribed liberally towards the expense of light-
ing the church for that purpose. We are happ) to add,
that the pious recommendation of his Lordship is to be car-
ried into effect forthwith.

The Bishops of Bath and Wells and of Chichester have,
it is said, rtquired two services to be performed on Sun-
days, in every parish in their Diocevcs, where the popula-
tion amounts to .500 persons; and we understand that the
Bishop of Winchester intends to require the like services
in his diocese.

The Rev. Frederick Twialeton, Fellow of New College,
Oxford, and Minister of Adiestrop, in Oxford, is ap-
pointed Archdeacon of Hereford, in the room of the late
Archdeacon Lilly.
The Hon. and Rev. Robert Eden, of Christ Church,
Oxford, brother of Lord Auckland, has been
I by Lord Baxley, to the valuable Living of Hcrtingford-
bury, vacant by the decease of Dr. Ridley.
The Rev. Edward Coleridge, 8.A., rellow of Exeter
College, Oxford, is presented to the Rectory of Monk-
silver, in the county of Somerset, vacant by the death of
the Rev. Wm. Walker.—Patrons, the Dean and Canons
of Windsor.

The Earl of Carlisle has appointed the Rev. Dr. Crane,
of Wadham College, Oxford, to he one of his Lordship's
Domestic Chaplains.

LONDON AND MANCHESTER EQUITABLE
COMPANY.

On Saturday a meeting of the Shareholders in ill's Company
took place at the North andiSouth American Coffee-house—David
Pollock, Esq. in the Chair.
The Coat ItMAN mated, that the meeting had been convened for
the purpose of considering the present condition of the affair, of the
Company, and its future prospects of success ; and whether they
should proceed with the objects of the concern without a charter,
or watt until they should procure one, which he certainly consi-
dered they should be enabled to effect.
Mr. KATE, the Solicitor to the Company, stated, that it had
been determined upon by several gentlemen who held a large num-
ber of shares in the Company, to stay the proceedings in it until it
should be ascertained how the London Equitable Loan Bill should
be disposed Ofin Parliament. He had, when tirst the Bill was io-
troducest to the House of Commons, waited upon an influential
Member in that House upon the subject, and was informed by him
that he should certainly oppose it ; but the moment the merits of
the Bill were made known to him, he altered his mind, and stated
his decided approbation of the measure. A witness from Manches-
ter had stated in his evidence what hada great effect upon the Com-
mittee—namely, that the Company would, by means of loana. as-
, stet and keep up the small 31anchester manufacturers, who were
often unable, whatever might be their necessities, to bring their
goods into the market, without making a great sacrifice. tie (Mr.
Kay) afterwards communicated with the Earl of Shaftesbury upon
that subject, and his Lordship felt strong objections to the Bill;
but when he was shown that it differed essentially from the London
Equitable Loan Bi;l, he also determined to give it Ilia support.
It was, however, resolved, that all proceedings should be at a
' stand, until their Lordships should decide upon the first Bill. The
fare of that Bill wag known, and now it remained, with respect to
this Company, to decide whether they shall commence operations
upon the strength of the deed of settlement alone, or wait until they
should obtain a chartist., which he had every reason to suppose
would be granted.
Mr. Pot•oce.—My opinion is, that we ought (not to proceed
without a charter. Heavy expense', have been incurred in the pro.
secution of the objects of the Company, and very little more will
be necessary to obtain a charter. We have 201)01. in hand, and
that is considerably more than will be necessary for that purpose.
The expenses 'treacly incurred were inevitable. A was house had
been purchased, and a superintendent had been employed ; as it
was necessary, before they brought their Bill MAO Parliament. to
have a certain existence; which existeoce esuld not be testified
without a purchase of a house, and the employing of a superin-
tended.' He considered the; it wsa not likely that they should
contract debts, as they were not to buy property, but clubbed their
money to advance it upon goods which were more valuable than
the money they advanced. They were free from all personal re-
sponsibility ; and no further advance of deposits, he would take
upon hint to declare. would be required between this time and that
at which the charter would be granted. without the consent of the
filterehnlders. But if it was the opinion of the Meeting that the
Company ought to proceed to an experiment without the charter,
he would put a motion to that effect, if it was made by any share-
holder.
A SHAREHOEDEL—II there a probability that a charter will be
obtained.

Mr. Pot.t.occ—Most certainly.
A SHAREHOLDER asked how many out of the 10,000 shares had
been paid up ?
It wan answered by Mr. Kau, that 6.0001. had been paid, and
that upon some of the shares, only the first instalment of seven
shillings hall been paid ; upon most of them the first and second
instalment, amounting together to 11. had been paid.
A SHAREHOLDER, who said he held COW shares, and that he
had many friends Who held numbers of shwa, declared that he
and his friends would rather, if there appeared no strong proba-
bility of success, that the whole concern should be broken up, and
a dividend of the property still remaining made, than ran the
hazard of losing more money. He thought. that upon en occasion
like this, the actual state of the funds of the Company ought to be
stated, and that it might be shown, whether any, and what hopes
existed, of ultimate success. (Hear, hear.) It appeared that
out of the 6,6001. which had been paid into the banker's, only
210001. remained in hand. Why had not this enormous deficit of
40001. been accounted for ? (Cries of " shame, shame.")
Alr. KATE—The first expenses, those incurred in application to
Parliament, were infinitely the greatest ; and it is known that great
expenses under such circumstances were inevitable.
POl.Loct said, he should be very glad to lay the Recounts
before the Meeting, but he had them not. lie had not been a Di.
rector from the commencement of the Company, but he knew that
the accounts of the expendi ure had bten authorised by the sub.
scribers themselves. There were some deductions from the bill pre-
sented of the expenses by the former solicitor.
A SHAREHOLDER said, the Company could not go on with
such a number of subscribtrs as was now scotched to it, so well as
if the prospectus had been acceded to by the sale of ten thousand
shares.

Mr. Pord.oce. said, that in the cage of a canal, or any great an.
dertaking, that certainly might and would be the case; but here
there was a difference. If the Company could not lend 20,0001..
why they could lend 10,0001.; that was all.
Mr. KAYE said, that great expenses ware incurred by the ne.
cessity of having witnesses up from Birmingham, who were de.
tato& from day to day fur a length of time, in consequence of the
numerous postponements.
A SHAREHOLDER wan proceeding to affirm that there was no
logic in Mr. Pollock's argument about the limited size of the ca-
pital, but he was interrupted by
Mr. Por.zocc, who stated, that. after all, the thing they met
to decide upon was. whether they were to wait for a charter, or go
on without a charter, which would cost no more titan 4001. or 6001.
The Shareholders seemed to be almost unanimously of opinion,
that, the deeper they advanced in deposits, the heavier would the
discount become.

Mr. POLLOCK said, that arose from the demeaned *ate of the
market; and that in all human probability that depresdon would
soon ease. and every thing resome its wonted artieseence. At all
events, those who purchased with the view of proseeoring the ob-
jects of the Company, need Dot are about the market, as they
could have no idea of speculating in shares; and those who had
F gambling, r -
bed t•'

THE BRITISH PRESS.

LAW Nu TICES.
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EXCHEQUER COURT, Tina DAY.

I Carysfort v. Wells, Capper v. Pagden. Atkinson t. Hutton,
for Judgment. Price v. Spencer. Fielder v. Meynell.
Roberson v. Le 3ler- lingo ti. Job. Evans v. Willistna.
cier. Norton v. Hammond Bamford a. Archer.
Bayley v. Bugg. D. and C. of York v.
Miller v. Jackson. M it.dleburgh.
ourt sits at ten o'clock.

No Sitting!, in the Kin's Bench for Middlesex till Saturday
neat, the 19:h ; and fur Loudon, till Monday week, the 2lat inst.
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LAW INTELLMENCE.

COURT OF VIANCERY, SATURDAY, Nov. 12.

IN THE MATTER OE THE NEV. MR. ra•xics • LUNATIC.
The Sou CIT Oft-GENEWAL stated, that lie lied presented a pe-
tition in tins matter at the rising of the Court yes,enlay. which he
wished his Lordship to snswer on an early day. The petition re-
presented mat Mrs. Franks had taken away the children of the
marriage from the person under whose care they had been placed by
the order of the Court, and prayed that she might be ordered to
res:ore them, and be restrained afterwards from any more inter-
Ferri:cc with them, till the further order of the Court.
The Loup CHANCELLOR said, be would answer it for
Monday.
The Sni.icrTnit-GENFRAL considered that, as there might be
some difficulty in serving the notice, Monday would be rather too
earle, and therefore suggested Monday week.
Lowpsuir accordingly made the OUMT for Monday week.

DE IIEAVVOIII V. xtionts.
This important cue (important as far as amount of property is
concerned, and as respects the rights and Interests of the parties),
it will be recollected, was argued at much leugth previous to the
vacation. It regards a very large and valuable landed property
situated at Hnxtcn, of which the plaintiff was the lessor, and the
defendant the lessee, for a great number of years. Mr. Rhodes
having lately obtained a new and very long lease of the estate, had
commenced building upon the land t hsd erected warehouses on
the banks of a canal which tan through the ground, and had ex-
cavated a basin, the expense of which alone was many thousand
pounds. The value of the land was thus greatly increased, and
.Mr. Rhodes began to reap the profits of his vast speculation. The
rev lease, which had been obtained from the plaintiff's father,
began row to be disputed by the present plaintiff, who became
lessor upon the death of his father; and the principal grounds
upon which it was disputed were, the use of undue influence by
the defendant and his agent, and imbecility and incompetence on
the part of the father. An injunction to restrain the building was
applied for before the Vice-Chancellor; and, upon a full hearing
of the case, his Honour was pleased, to a certain extent, to grant
the application. By this proceeding same hundreds of workmen
were immediately thrown out of employment, and the property
itself, in this unfinished state, left to ruin and decay. The order
of the ‘'ice-Chancellor was then appealed from, and upon this
appeal Counsel were heard by his Lordship. at very great length,
before the vacation. At the conclusion of the arguments, his
Lordship threw out several intimations that the injunction could
not stand without many rariatioun, but pronounced no decisive
opinion upon the case. Judgment having been specially fixed for
this day, all the parties were now in attendance, most anxious for a
final determination of the case.
The LoaD CIIANCEELOR stated, that he bad brought with him
a portion only of the papers in this important case; the remainder
he was compelled to leave behind him, being far too bulky to
be brought into Court. As he was obliged to leave the Court at
half-past one, to attend the Judges in the Exchequer Chamber,
he should not today be enabled to go through the whole of the
case. lie would therefore now state the facts, and give his rwons
and opittious the tint thing on Tuesday morning. His Lord-
ship then, at very great length, proceeded to read the bill and
answer put In, Together with the most material parts of the most
voluminous correspondence, which passed between the parties on
the subject of the lease in question, and particularly between 2tlr.
Rhodes, 111 r. Tebbutt, Mr. Aspinal, and Mr. Dc Beauvoir, the
present plaintiff. His Lordship, in proceeding through the evi-
dence, threw out many nbsetvations with respect to the particular
import, bearing, and effect, of most of tire imporuint documents.
After having continued the reading of these papefa for more than
three hours, the remainder was postponed until Ttfesday. It is
supposed that even then he will not give a final decision:

COURT OF KING'S BENCH, WESTMINSTER,
SATURDAY, NOV. 12.

BLOKE V. STOCKDALE.

Thin wan an action for a libel. published by the defendant in
the Memoirs cy • ilutriate Wilson, on the plaintiff, a stone-
mason, of Piccadilly, tending to hold him up to ridicule anti can.
tempt, as a person of low and vulgar manners and conversation,
and to impute ushiin that he made a proposal of marriage to Penny
Parker. the kept mistress of an officer. The damages were laid a.
300/. At the trial, betore the Chief Justice, at the al iddhsee
Sittings Oct last Term, the defendant appeared in person, anti
conducted his own case. The Jury louud their verdict fur the
elacoastais 3404,
Dlr. Snores:ran was now instructed, on behalf of the defend-
ant, to move foe a new trial, on the ground that the damages were
excessive. He could not deep that the alleged libel was calculated
to produce the effect imputed to it in the declaration ; but there was
'one circumstance taken into the consideration of the Jury, which
no doubt had some weight with them in estimating the damages,
but which, he had to submit, bad not been proved in a manner
quite satisfactory. Mr. Scarlett, in his address to the Jury on be-
half of the plaintiff. relied very moth upon the circumstance or the
plaintiff being married man at the very time he was supposed to
have made a proposal of marriage to Fanny Parker. In order to
make it appear probable that such was the fact, a single witness
was called, who stated that had Fanny Parker been alive at the time
of the trial, she would have been somewhere about 33 years of age.
whereas., from the register of her baptism, which was produced, ft
appeared that she must have been at least 43 years of age,
This also was the only witness to prove that the plaintiff' had been
married between 20 and 30 years. Where, therefore. there was so
much inaccuracy in the testimony of the witness as to the age of one
of the parties, his memory could not be safely depended upon as to
time daring which the plaintiff had been married to his present
wife. If, then his evidence could not be depended upon, the fact
that Fanny Parker must have been at least 43 years of age at the
time of the trial, had she been then living, must have justified the
possibility, if not strong probability, that the plaintiff might have
made the proposal of marriage suggested' whilst he was a bachelor,
Fanny being then shoat the age of eighteen. What, therefore, the
defendant bad to complain of was, that the .Lord Chief Justice
did not point out to the Jury the discrepancy between the evidence
of the witness, and the register of Fanny's baptism, upon a point
which must have had a strong effect upon their minds in esti-
mating the damages. The Jury were allowed to consider the case
an if all the facts opened by the plaintiff's Counsel had been
proved, which they were not.
Mr. Justice BAYLEY—Is the time specified In the libel when the
proposal of marriage was supposed to have been made.
Mr. BROUGHAM—No, it certainly is not.
Mr. Justice Baratv—Therefore you are to raise a resumption
that the libellous letter was referring to a proposal which was sup-
posed to have been made twenty-tire years ago ?
Mr. Ilaouestme said, the circumstance to which he had ad-
verted tended to show the probability that the plaintiff was not a
married man at the period mentioned In eie certificate of baptism,
and that F. Parker was then of an age capable of contracting mar-
riage.
Mr. Justice BAYLEY—But you gay that the libel refers to no
date whatever, when the proposal is said to have been made.
Baouonam—The letter may have been written twenty-five
years since ; Mrs. Parker has been dead eight or ten years.
The Loan Cuter J 'slice—The letter purported to have been
written by one sister to another (I think front the hie of Wight),
stating that she had a proposal of marriage made to her by the plain-
tiff, mentioning bin trade and residence.
Mr. Haouottast—The letter is certainly without date, and
there is nothing to identity the time at which tt was written.
Mr, Justice 14aYaer —Not the age of the writer ?
Mr. Bootle:mem—All we know is, that the supposed writer
must have been of 'he age of 41 at the time of the trial.
The 190112 f :ITTreSl7STlts.—it was proved that theralnelfri
eldest son was 23 years of itge.
Mr. Justice BAYLEY—Did it appear how long Mr. Blore
kept v lonemasen's shop in Piccadilly? I observe
stonemason,'

• •
Vedhalily, the second Catholic Meeting
Du
asekp:or to the Catholic Aseociati
•
• -Ast o'clock, the Chair was take
.1 a. o.ooaass, Esq.
My
14TMMum, Esq. was appa
Sitise Csatiltaus road the requillon caning tin
Hs am was of a eanpnehensive nature. embracing
Catholic question. He hoped some Gentleman
=to uplain the nature and object of the
he world take the opportunity afforded
sena of any particular topic, to answer some que
hive put to him abroad, relative to lie intended
logs. He thought gentlemen should fix their
way the 3lucater Meeting was conducted was aft,
rouser :—A Committee was appointed, the Sec
waft circulars to the Noblemen and Gentlemen
segrestingan answer. By this means, • most res
wad convened, and the Committee were able to p
1.11 a spect6c number ; make arrangements fur t
'prepare the necessary resolutions.
CaSWAY begged to inform the Chairman
NU, was going forward in Leinster, preparator
the Provincial Meeting in Carlow. Arrangemeuts
la c,usrutight and in the North.
The Citatitstror, in continuation, said ha Ira
J•lv..Conway had noted—the Committee fur the ii
aid him (rho Chairmen) the honour of calling Oil 1
3% him to appear In his capacity as Secretary
ct Ireland, and arrange the Meeting. He did
• happy to cap, to the entire satisfaction of the gent)
1k was ready at sit times to go any where, ant
I.t:end the different Provincial Meetings, if a
thought it hut his duty to make the statement he
1400 to do ro. He was also asked, upon what
• ae laud, and money demanded at the doors ?
Tut could not tell.
life. CoxwAv said there wan no law against do
set of burplying was the free-will of the persons •
The 018111111 AN said he was aware of the let
astihredosed the circumstance only because the
"sr qt.
Ilk RAYON said, there was **other question to
hist day would the old Association meet ? It wa
the drat day the Parliament assembled would be
the commencement of the meetings of the merah.
flit ore Association. He would, however, propose