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.. in .ti !kis sentiments, that Rouse notiritahlMo44lWrrpt.#ll
!glare he'elsitehl hate thrown for the pu . • 1
• • Me. MURAT applisred of the Neville Lours (Milt.nti's).
amendment, as he thought in creating.a seot and lot borough
.11., should be wpm& •.1
Mr. PEEL mold prefer the 20!. Otllletaltilat Of its beingl
a limitation, and, is him opinion, a realimable
and at that would ere between two aid three thou...m.li
norm, he must esiedder Net the public voice would be fairly'
hefted. Ht coeld dot bed regret (when he observed lie
cadent °potions elf to-sight 2 that the right had not hien
emended to the East Ri ag of Yoskshire, attaching
the right of toting to forty shilling freeholders. He
thought the Home was bound to consider ghat would 6r
fur the *delouse of Lee* itself, cod ex ending this suffrage
to the peer inhabitants, eonsidering that the plaice had a.
manufacturing pepidatios, and the weceriary itorniiptisolito
industry which as election occasioned, it might rather beim
injury shalt a ilea& He thought that whether the new or
the other sma sited* be adopted, it was probable the repro.-
ammo ewe would be thmsanie ilk both eases. He ettemohl there.
Eire vote Orr attaching the right to the qualtrieatioo of 101.
• Mr. A B ERCROM BY said, that though he was originally
fr:eud to the proposition of extendiug the right to the
Noting, be was sow eonvineed that the House bad decided,
• ightly, and he Amid vote for the amendment of the Noble
1 ..rd for the sense resents, as it would be adopting a prim.-
eiple Mourn to the Constitution. With respect to what had
hero asserted of the nonsense which was said to he altered
at puotilar elections, he considered it peculiarly eligible
that there should be pennons of that diwillow.' in the
tiestc, ethos, sentiments there found a harmless vent. As
to the interruption to indlatry, it shonid be recetleetrill Shut
it nos not ironspolsory on a man to vote, and that, the re.
fore, leas an tocouveniesice, from pinch the House wear not
• called upon to give proieetion.
Mr. PEEL said, the oration of nonsense here not of the
gnosis& as ',ditch he foondeithis opinion. He wee not ore
of them who Ismaid eivittnihetmp nay of the vents bylrhilit
the nonensseevaporatei. 1-D sq
Me. moiNcx. thought abo great defect lea the repreatan
time was the exclaims of the poorer elmies. Had they
kern truly represented, the present load of taxation would
:have bees more equally divided. It was not a little ii.
star halite, that the lanshtex was the names. rt w•s a twat wry
ago; whilst in that period the tax as beer (the poor tenon ,
toy: Tam.) had been quadrupled. He should vote fur the
'ainemloseat of the Noble Lord (liilion).
Lord CASTLEREAGH said, that whilst he was a friend
to the pencil'', of !Pimping the borough of Crempoiitl. he
t.t.ouhl have preferted founding it upon the enmity representa-
tion. and giving it to the East Riding of Yorkshire. That he 4
tb .tight would have been the safer principle; but as the Haase •
bad derided opon that 'object, the question now was, which :
WWI the heat of the three propositions before the Committee.
,It the Noble Lord's (llihtia) ansenclatent were Ittitnittwl, it
. tunnel be a preeeileat that when a borungh offended, the right
yhould begiven to a large sad populous tone, end tote ley scot
and hit. Now, if future offeocey could he coutemplated, a Brest
addition would he made to that representation, upon which he
looked with the least favourable eye. He ad objected to the
'selection of Lents, beepase it was as arbitrary priuriple,
mid one which beapprehended would put the Rill iii jeopardy.;
however,. the Nobk Ladled decided, but why f& Ihe had che
'scot and lot in preference to heritage trot", or railing olds
the Crown to grant a charter, did out clearly appear Gra&
,
,tog that tne House ought to give a popular representasios,
-they were not bound certainly to go to the entente of the
principk, and between the two rates of voting, he should slice
'lLe preference to the 20!. on the understroultag that that would
give a body of belong' two aid three thatotoad electors.
• Mr. MARTIN wished to ask the Noble Lord what mili-
tary force he meant to provide for the protector.w of the peace ;
rind ala, whether he hod takes the opinion of the principal
Merchawts end bankers at Leeds upon hie propaitiosi ?
Mr. DENMAN regretted the doubts which the Noble Lord
Wastlereagh) hid expressed aq to the fate of the Bill, as he
.shared it was of the mature of those doubts to verify themselves
in stiosoothereptarter. Rethought that those who talked the '
tgsp":. shawl* hare when that it MU the porilarity !Mich
011•1161* it. lit beloved the reverse, as the responsibility
-imposed en men Kai-sing the elective franchise heat a term-
admit, to promote the tranquillity ed the plate. But there
'were, he helieried, eleven townships in the Borough cf Leeds,
and there might he eleven toothy for taking the poll,
which wonted afford great facility, cud lea, indetmi a me- i
gulat.ms worthy of being extended to every populous place
In the kingdom, looking to die experience of theism three
or tour years, whilst complaints were ntimerous from other
.parts of the Itioginin. The town of Nortinehasu (which be
'had to reposes°, and the midland comities its gripe! al, were
perfectly tranquil; soil he was perimad,d that bad Munches-
ter, 4Hudddersfield, and Leeds, sent Representatives to Par-
liament, the discoulenti ;stitch had burst out so almouiligly,
would Dent have been heard of. F..r these reasoue he
skald support the amendment of the Noble Lord.
Mr. W. COURTENAY supp,. Lye. the amendment of Mr.
Stuart Wortley.
Mr. SCAR LETT thought that if either the original (-louse,
as proposed by the Noble Lord, or the amenchnent of the
Hon. Member for Yorkshire (Mr. Wortley) were adopted,
great difficulties would arise in esthnating the value of the
tenement, and it would be a constant source of beam-
burning and litigation in the borottgh. In one year
a renameot might let for lel. and the tenant be entitled to
vote, aid is the following year a fall of roots might take
plate. and he would lose his franchise. It would be establish-
tag so criterion at all; had the qualifieatiou been uu the
amount of rates paid, it would have been intelligible. The
most oatural and simple way world be to gate it to those
who paid scot mid lot; that world be a restoration to what
it was is ancient times. Hr would therefore tote for the
amendment of the Noble Lord.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL said he would at take up much
of the time of she Committee by replying to the queries of
the Hoo. Member for Galway as to the amount et the mili-
tary force, when now was to be none, nor as to the borough
which lie (Lord J. Russell) represented, since he did nut re-
present a borough. In fullowiog the etiologies of the cum.
rotation, he had endeavourd to catch the spirit of it, rather
than exactly adhere to mere form and observances ; and its
filo ag upon a tenancy of 101. as a qualification, lie had taken
into view the prejudices which existed against extendiug she
slight of suffrage, and had taken that as somewhat partaking
or n middle course.
The gallery was theu cleared for a division, shut there
apiwared—
For the original Clause
Fur Loot Milton's Ameasiment 66
Majority ll6
Another division then teak place, when there appeared—.
For Mr. S. Wurtley's Amendment

Against it
Majority
On our return to the gallery,
Mr. DAMS GILBERT was coo his legs opposing the
Clause which provided that the untainted electors of Grain-
pound should be eutitkd to vote for the Comity of Cornwall.
He was convinced there was not a freeholder in Gunman but
would think himself &Goofed by mach an arrangement. He
could nut court-ire why the Nub Lord had looked to the
county, whet there was the borough of Ticino!, its which
tho re would have bran a fitter assueianuo for the electors of
Grampouud.
After some farther discussion, in whirl, Mr. Tierney, Mr.
W. i4you, Mr. Martin, Load John Rusvell, sod Mr. S.
NVortiey bore a part, Hoe clause was rejected without a divi-
sion. bone sew clauses were limo& up and agreed to.
Mr. T. COURTENAY objected to the alteration which
the Noble lord Lod matte to Hie preamble.
Lord .1. icussELL defended the preamble as it stood.
Lord BINNING contended fur Ike monism, preamble.
Sir M. W. RIDLEY sod Mr. WARRE were ler the pre.
amok as it then itoodl;
Here some COO verration arose as to a point of order.
Sir RONALD FERGUSON protested against the inter-
ference of the Chairman in the debate.
Mr. BRADGE BATHURST could not hear such sit at-
tack an the Chairman. He had dune but his duty, act/ the
weeisiuul was moo uncalled for.,
'lt JOHN NEWPORT serried with the Hon. and gallant
SAirallier, that the Chaimes had gone Witold the strict line of
hta.slair.
Ilk,. BROGDEN staled, that he gaesely said it was anasuals

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