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praying for an inquiry into the transactions at Man.
'tester. The Noble Lord witted, this the Vetitistii.,
was one which had been tarried at a 11414 siestete,
ing, but that the sentiments and optimists *more
tinned differed materiilly from this.; roiertisined,
by the great majority of the freeholders of the'
county...,
.Mr. Rummel( mid, that he differed entirely
with the Noble Lord when he asserted that the Pe-
tition did not speak the sense of the majority of the
people of Westmorland. That Petition was signed'
by above 3.000 persons, stud had hero agreed to at
a public meeting of the county. There were two
ways of expressing opiuious on a public question.
The one was tlw ,stunt pursued by the preeesit
Pr-
titioeers, that of railing a public meeting of the
county, where every freeholder might attend and
express his opinion., and give his vote either for or
against any !proposition that might he submitted.
And here, be might he permitted to observe. that
though the Noble Lord had stated that a great ma-
jority of the people of Westmorland differed widely
from the see tt ttt reds expressed its the Petition. yet
nut one of them had intended that meeting—line
one of them had opposed that Petition. There '
was another mode of proceeding—it was to agree to
• private address, without calling any public meet-
ing—without giving any opportunity to the free-
holders at large to express their opinions upon it.
Lord LOWTMER said, that an allusion had been
made to a great number of signatures. Ile would
ask how they were procured ?, Was it not notorious '
that every means were employed—that public ad-
vertisements were sent forth—that sheets were left j
for signature at the bars of public-house. ? It was
a fact that persons of a very tender age were in-
vited to lilacs their signatures to those sheets, and
even the mimes of massy of the Cur sex were used
to swell the number.
Mr. Baotannewasid. the Noble Lord alluded
not to the Petition before the House, hut to an-
other document, the Address to the Prince Regent.
With respect to the fact stated by the Noble Lord.
that the names of the fair sex were put to it to swell'
the numbers, he never belting amid of it. Hie
would examine into it—hot/re strishietinow vs? au&
he did not believe a single wind of it.. _The Di
Lord must have been inisinforra.ed to obit the.
Noble Lord said about the pion' having 1;44.
hawked up and down for signatures, he would whir,
him how :are 'ignitions alwaya:procorod ?..Waseie
not always.tbe practice Whom sheets of parolee
went at ',Odic places, witlt•eopy of the Mitt° $O,,
Or address, fur the signsturei of those Who jaight be
disismed to agree to re'? What then war done witr.
respect to the •present Petition this had. noelittamys •
been done with respect to all petit joie 4;1=1
nature ? He was qpite satisfied, that ir.
means were used. that if the same influence could
have been exerted to procure signatures for (bait f'r-
litwn that had been exerted to wigwam 4igesararef
for what was milted, itivithimelje tolled. tbeidatlyok
Address, which had been get up. et gueeheellaids
the signatures would have been much more num&
roue. Ou that address he would only say, that it
was found so unpopular, that it contented milli.
menu of that description, which. notwithstanding
every effort. it was impossible to.procure isiguatores
twit—and to the credit of Gentlemen connected
auk& the Government it was ultimately suppressed,
.souther address was substituted in its place.
Mr. WALL's said, that he was one of those who
advised another address—not because he disagreed
with any of the statements or opinions of the for-
mer—not that he doubted of any allegations it con-
tained. He was convinced of the necessity of
energetic tueasures to meet the alarming state of
the country—he was convinced of the peewit, Ar
putting some checks upon the Press. But he ad-
vised another address, because it contained seine
expressious which might not have met with the conn
currence of those who, however, substantially
agreed to the principle and the object of the ad-
dress. The Hun. Gentleman said, he thought an
address, calmly considered, was more likely Wens,
tain the truth than a petition hastily .caesit=
public meeting. and welded to by person,
passions were excited by ir.flammatury speethei. •
An Hon. Member (we believe Mr. Gailleillhaftif
Hull,) said, that with respect to the asserthltiver
Noble Used, that female signatures were pee to Ai
address. he had never before heard of it ; acid
he
must doubt the fact, until he had better informa-
tion than the bare assertion of the Noble Lord,
however respectable that assertion might be.
Lord Lowrttaa explained.
The petition was ordered to lie on the table.

Lord NUGENT said, he hid a question to pot to
linisters.—The late proclamation required the at-
tendance, when called on, of ail pensioners, nuchr
pain of forfeiting their pensions : he twisted to
know whether that proclamation was meant to;apply;
to those perrons who had originally enlisted fee a,
limited period--who had received wounds in the,
service, and protested passions in cousequeoce?
Lord mid. the imsclismatiou op
plied to bit L
pEisiGiNteA • AU peecieuers, iu hag,
rr-
crive theie pensions eta the miodition that ihsey
would be ready, whets called on, tit join the service.
It might afterwards .be open fur conridulleitteli
whether those who were. from their womanish shellit
for service, should be dispensed with ; bet the; tre.,
press coadition on which all pensions were gratitsid, ;
was, that the perviiinsercaboulil be ready :who*.
caned on to attends
Lard Nectars. read the two clause, in the Act
„respecting pensions. and .was of opinion. that the
• *lO for which the description of pensioners he
daceibed bad entered this re nice having
they ought not to be again called into octets..
TRAINING BILL.
. • • 101111 CASTLEENAGG brought up a Bill to pee.
etbst Training aod•Dritting.
Air: S. #V wass.ass said, that up to the peewit%
testa the House host only bend of; the pumice of
ihillsog at far as it contented the curnstitof Lam.
_caster he was awry that it was i* 46114•11111.4 e
produtrat The practice hail extended stitch farther,
and that itilevailed to agoeciderolebecutem-Us the-
couuty of ; Yoritrinntwas itscreasitsg.to Other pieta.
fleebawd .itskiecurtirni feast that cattatY4
rthe first port. of *high ale e- seceiged-wn;
last. Thug isdismiklinvet ,fithiird.a staterdeut of a
constable-et- eemslityumbor affirmed 4t-Oa the
FfitlaY eight-Ptellerlimg% be esse-st'4l4l Imf•ol,S
dolling irs'e temobleletedirg field. -; -Ou receiving
That information, be .(Mr. Wortley) immediately
tkallaAnthr Th•ellie‘Werd, who, us 11131oWtf to his