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.srefrnen of it. he bad, in his great desire for a le-
' Teem mode of proceeding, produced the amend,
tent, which he then read, and commented upon in
terms of very Severe animadversion, and declared,
that, instead of the term merciful, with which it
was pretended to he eharaderisesh it was nue the
moat cruel and oppressive in its eras that he had
ever heard or read of being introduced into that
Home, in toe whole course of the Parliamentary
history of the council. Under all the circumstances
of the case, he thought the Noble Viscount, against
whom both these motions were brought forward,
had already been sufTiciently puaished; and he
should certainly give his conscientious vote against
them both; but certainly, if the ease were that he
west vote for one of them, it should be the very
severe original motion, in prefaence to the /mires
and glee-e!:*u! amendment.
Mr. B. BATHURST said, that if the Right
Hon Gentleman, who had pit sat down, thought
sincerely that it, would conduce to the interest of
Viscount Melville in the minds of the MeMbers of
that House—that it would add to the honour and
chara&er of that Noh'e Lord, either with the House
or the country, to mention in the manner he had
done rht moon made by his Right Hon. Friend
(Mr. Brinell, he was errands sight in doing so; but
in this he differed intirely from the Right Honour-
able Gentleman who spoke last; and thought,
there:to, it was his particulat duty to give his rea-
sons for supporting the motion of amendment
brought forward by his Right Hon. Friend. being
conscious that it did not merit those sarcastic epi-
thets which had been applied to it. He thought
the Right Himonsable Gentlemaii, who spoke last,
had been very much mistaken relative to an arca-
de. viz. the Release. It had been vauntingly '
raid, by more than one Honourable Member, glut
his Right Honourable Friend was ignorant of the
laws of Scotland, and altogether wrong in having
asserted that deeds in Scotland need not be re-
gistered. He was certain this must proceed upona
most palpable mistake. His Right Hon. Friend
bad not maintained any such position. He had
only said, that a deed in Scotland might. be re-
corded, and very often was so. without the contents
bring at all known, the title and date, with the
names of the partici*, being the whole that is re
corded It now turns nut, however. that this dced,
instead of being recorded, is in such a state at that
it will not perhaps ever be recsrJed. The names
of the sirocurators are net pat to in and without
these it never can be recorded. With respei to the
motion itself, as briniAlat forward by his Rt. Hon.
Friend, it had, iu ord.r to avoid all objeltioas, peen
drawn ep in the-saute form as thou motions have
generally been. -It bad always, he believed, been
usual to leave to the Attorney General mode of
commencing the .torositeution, and of applying
every circumstance that might tend to render it
effeCtu al. As such, the motion was generally word-
ed so as to leave the whole to his consfud, discretion,
and superior legal knnwledge. With regard to the
particular situ-Lion of the House relative to the pro.
ceedings which have already taken place, he, fur his
own part, saw no ciidiculues but such as were of
their own cresting If it can be flown they have done
slay thing which is &Baal:y.or which it would be bet-
ter not to have done ; there was a plain and obvious
track, for the House to pursue, they may retrace
their own steps. The other House of Parliament, in
a case of a similar tendency to the present, had for
weeks pan been doing the same, and he was confi-
dent that I louse might proceed in the way pro.
prised, without any disgrace or merited censure.
The question, he said, was not whether there should
he any investigation at all, but whether the
investigation should take place through the mcehuni
of a civil suit, or a criminal prosecution. It was
for the House to consider and determine that point,
and to proceed accordingly. In his ()Pinion, there
certainly was new matter arisen in consequence of
the last Report. Thence arises the question on
which so much has already been said, re.ative to the
10,00 it. and to the 2.3,001. which had out before
been at all etplainerr. These tads, he would allow,
were ant new in allegation, but they were so in point
of proof, and unquestionably new fads will war-
rant new proceedings. If no criminal prsiceeding
was instituter!, the justice to the country, which was
its due, and which was at present so loudly and uni-
versally called for in consequence of these very
transadions, can only be obtained by a civil suit.
In his opinion, it was perfedly fruitless to hope or
'sped any such thing. It was, therefore, fur the
House to decile. whether they will try Viscount
Melviile by a civil suit,—which can produce nothing
in favour of the public, for that strongest of 411 rea-
sons that has been so often Mentioned-, via. that the
papers and vouchers which cold furnish the neces-
sary prcof agairst him, are all destroyed—or,
whether they will call the Noble Viscount to
account 14 prosecuting him in a criminal way.
and thereby endeavouring to obtain justice, and
a due degree of punishment for the connivance
he had been guilty of, and the share he had
taken in the illegal disposition of the public mo-
ney, which had come to his hand t. and ot which
lie has repeatedly avowed he will g.ve you no ac-
count. ifs thought, therskre, there was very good
ground to proceed, and that it was absolutely ne-
cessary they should do so. If Viscount blelvii;re
was inauceut, the House had done too much. and

justice wc•tild rzquire they should retrace their steps.
If the Noble Lord was guilty, the House had taut
done enough; and the duty they owed themselves,
as well as that they owed teir country, demanded
they should proceed, and bring him to that punish-
:neat which it may on a fair trial be found let: de-
served. The Right Hon. Gentleman then adverted
to what had been said relative to the evidence which
he had given before the Cammissianeri of Naval
itruptir y, as to the reason for his awing the mode
at drawing money from the Bank, during the
time he was in the office of Treasurer of the Navy.
He thong!st the best way he could pursue, in urdea
to put the IiQUAI into the real possession of it, was,
to read it from the printed evidence ; which he ac-
cordingly did, and it appeared thereby, that on the
Commissioners of Naval Inquiry asking him " Whet
was his reason for ids, zing tl.e mode of drawing
mon 'y rut of the Busk to be used for Naval pur-
poses ?" lie al swered, " Because he thought it
invarsistent with the Ad of Parliament, and that it
was his duty to remedy immediately that irre.
priority " ' u9i.would see CIA he had
m ationed thou;-'

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