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London, England, 1819-02-26 00:00:00

DEFAULTS&

On the motion of theCsalletaLLOl a the EILIII4I.IIM,
Siw.Ler nut user the males wf tbe Washers or the bat-
WI, au Fiiday hist, when several of them appeared is their
aad satisfactory cullers were 'made rue Oben.

MR. GRADY.
Sir R. IVlLson—', Sir, 1 have to state that the
f,il,llrniint who out last night token into custody,
I.! a 11.41 i breach of privileges of this Horse, bap
iLdrebbril a prt:tiots to me, which he requires ale to
Prweilt to the is ro, I wish to state.
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liable of the rmertion now deTotlisic, hit sessions wish
r*PrtiolitiV Iw drat his pmple should he *pared.
'rho r00)...ry was to he sweed godly by a resolute il--
tr•lnlnsn..., oo the fort of the Howe of Com tttttt is
In d,frool ir own nrsedegeo, and the sight* of ihr
th'ol,lle—to ofarmwe all melt grin& of money Ns would
lemur climate polsolitiol to 11w nation mod the
!home. ( I 'howbeit )
Air. Pint. raphal ed, hut all we could hear
r.ont him was, that Mr twonstornhsl journey 1,111
N trry pleasant onr, mode in the best cola-

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Ir. Ra RR FT? (we believ.) hod voted for the
on the f. er night, I►nt rvo the own
.10..1u.ne were glide different, should cheerfully
poop. In. ',no. in lemur of the resolution, as lie con-
ueiv.d the Dnke of York is be fairly entitled to
reward fair his troehla. _ .

M►. ft. MARTIN hall one "entente to offer in mt.
11111:141,1111.
.Hr s•y the I•so night hr would
op.'', the sitprollation of the rabble at Covent•
lo►drn. He certainly did say, that he would ad.
floe IN.yulrtioo 01 Landon from the hoistiugs.
ens-intat: swot floe tools. but die notably, •nd grit.
Ist. "tl.l clergy—(A luu ) —Of London. •nd that
short!el obtain their assent to grouting the
fie notetalcd to hiive said. that he should
s.-rosse the cosicurreote of the highest, •ud then
said, equal 'access. to the lowest.
Mr. BTRNAI. eitfarrell the necessity of ern•
num, —Ennielated the ofßer did not bring sit
expsiose.--argurd that the cpteition lel
ot.•'n to those Nleitshers who had supported ilte
Am. stelateor—and thought lie Iwst dim:hailed his
door• .o site co ry at large, •nd proved his
tsrament to the House of Hanover, by opposing

Mr rout Pan support.A the Resolution, no not
goleele lo teaspoon pew burden% on the people, but
to f't•ptols used appeoptiotegrants already modes

M•. Cogirmw %poke in fovonr of the into.

M. W LUAU; swirl. nn Menilwr of the House
owaier "trowel for the Icing than lie had—no
men w 0441.1 go further than lie would to contribute
to poi comfores —but lie slid not see how the grant
to his Royal Highoess cools, in any degree 1.
brow to 'hue. comforts. It had been sail that the
Piety Pone as. the private properly of the King j
if the feet !sere so, how did it happen that in 1812
tlw Parliament added to the burdens of she Privy
Parse. by providing out of it the expenses of Ins
Maj.-911's Physicians? lithe Parliestieut hal door
so iu inn, why not do so now? The Hon. Member
twist c planed of the exposure of the items of
expessdittne laid before the House. Ile it was
impossibly to look without disgust upon the manner
In which the Royal Family were treated by those
blew firmt duty it was to consult their honour and
their char-rtes with the 'weld,. He could net. he
said. but consider the sum of 10,0001. a year en-
tirely t 4.9 much for the present office—too much to
be peiil m ti,. piesetst circumstances of the country.
pri the other howl, he differed with those who
'boogiet that nothing should he granted at all. He
not agree with those who, in the zeal of high.
(bars loyalty. say, that if a doubt exists, it should
be decided in favour of the King. lie would. in
such test, decide in favour of the people. lie
shouttlit that in the present care a tniddle Course
• toe the best., mid he would move, touted of
10.000/. Tor an sollowatice of 5,0001. a year.
Mr. Loam WESLRIII.I,I void, he a..ofil consider
silence us. lbw occasion a breach of public h r.
He felt every erueration for the Throw?. lie ap-
proved the course pointed nor by the lose
as Its the derhictiou of 5.000/ Ile conridered the
raw of 10,0001. ass II .1 ; Ind 5101
usideretaial on what ground it was called for. If
the Duke of Yovit came to ask a sum of money
from the House. he would grata any thing to him
that reason and public duty would ouretion. 'the
grant to the Quern wos travelling Caprioles; but
to the present case he did not telt his way ; lee
could not comprehend the grouted on which the
grata was asked for. With every respect for the
Duke of York, he could not vote fro the present
grant will t a breach of public honour. As a
CiMitniniVf of &behind it was his duly to staid
between the exercise of 'prerogative mid the rights
and interests 4.f the people.
Loud Esau:afore said. he considered the de-
mood as wanton mid ustreasoueltle. He denied
that, on the (miner discus•ion, the view token by
hi: Right Koss. Friend (Mr. Tierney ). mid those
who acted with bun, precluded them from object-
ing to the pretests demand of Ministers; on the
amatory. their declarations protected them from
such au interpretation of their conduct. Ile
la-
wrtdrd and condemned the conduct of Ministers,
in drugging the Royal F.lautly into pithily view.
Hr felt fur the Duke of York ; his bitterest cue.
01155 (1.111(1 not WOW effectually adopt a mode to
sink I 1111 l m public °piano'', and to detract from
Isis popularity. than his present advisers have token.
Al.. HARVEY nod, he considered the office of
twin; one of great dignity and great trust, and
he could not see how a sniu of 10,000% a-year couhl
add to tie lustre. It was impossible to separate
the prison from the office. It hats,been said that
.f'il'e would creute expense; but if the fact were
i-oo so. it should be recollected that the Dike of
York had already large sums of money from the
people. Ile had 18.0001. s-veer as the King's
snii—lie had the situation of Commander-its-Chief
—tie received large sums from the prods of the
Adrunslty. He could not agree, he said, to the
propootion made for 5,0001. a-year.
Mr. WYNN said, his Hatourahle Friend who
spoke last put the question on the fair ground.
Ile felt it improper to mix up the coo,rike,,e fur
services with the name of the Duke ..r York. Tim
was the first time salary was mentioned. The slim
to the Queer' was for travelling expellees. He said
the Members of she Council, some of whom held
no office under the Crown. received not a farthing
for trait attesidance at Windsor, or fur their ex-
penses, nor did they ask soy. its to the expenses of
the Duke, there was a fund over which Ise bad runt•
Inwid to allow to servants and others. so there was
no meaning in the speech of the Noble Lord as
to the limes of his Royal Highness, as incident
to the sitostioa. But whatever exiwtises might
be incurred. he would willingly allow them to
She last shilling. Here he would stop. He dr-
; .teased the idea of hoeing * salary on his Royal
illighoess, for discharging the last duties Ire owed
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Mr. IL HATHUUT held that the o*ce had no
Worker to Um Duke ; it was a public uScr vi

tenet and respoos+ilitv, and should be rovitled
for like every other office of Slate.
Lord CARHANF rON —The present atiellipt to
unprincipled, sioteelisig, and sollacimia. It was sn
attempt upon the 'own. ul the [Of.ol.lr; It was so
attempt to oppress them ; it was Na isisithiug to the
country as it Vrar injurious to the Royal Family.
Mi..Parrs had been ton Mule. stud in bringing for-
woul•that Family. Lost %rear they mode a Iltinaltd
for N grant, 4.11.1 they fiiled. They have now
N 00000 het trial. They stand ou itifirm gr 00000 id—they
should he catiti.,,l4. If they are Orleans d now,
not they go.—(ilkieft cheering and laughter:l—
may carry Inn altars, 00000 bust he hoped his
Royal Higliursa would not accept their support ;
hr hoped lie would recollect soil would ifisltate the
conduct of die Doke of Richelieu. lb* Royal
Highness enjoys 50,000/. is-year—he hoped he
would not accept of 10,0001. a-year for riding
from Ostlands to Windsor. If this sum was mice
grouted, there was too much reason to fear it
would remain • had precedent, and perma-
nent inctirubrance-.-it *mild get into the red
hook, and remain there for ever.—(4 lough.)—
If the King died, how pitiourly would the sweet
voices at the other side excision, " Can you have
the heart to take away this 10,0001. a year from the
Doke t"—;Load eheers.)—lt would be somewhat
like the Commissionera of the Irish Lottery. The
Irish Lottery system was aboltalied—.hilt Com-
missioners were notwithstanding continued, and
even new Commissioners elected. It wall asked
why appoint Commisainsiers to the Lottery. wheu
no Lottery exists ? True, we have no Lottery
now, hut we Illy have a Lowry, teas the reply.—
The same reply would be as to the office of eusios.
You have Ito usa of a naafi's; no, but there may be
occasion fur • restos; therefore it is right to have
a cacaos on the estahlisliment—l Lairghteri—and
a salary in the red book. He hoped Ins Royal
Highness would take at view of this subject diffe-
rent from Ministers ; his character was by far the
most brilliant star lie could wear. Ile stood well
with the people; they hiked his frankness; they
gave him credit for good iiitesitions, and lie hoped
that his Royal Highness would prove to them and
to the world that lie was taut to be outdone by a
Frenchman in gristmill), towards his country : he
hoped he would decline inrel.tm,o payment for the
performances of those tender and affectioliate duties,
which, in private life, are discharged with no other
reward than what heaven hes,osss upon filial piety.
Air. GRIFFITH spoke against the grant, and
contradicted the statement of Lord Castlereagh oil
a former night, as to the state of our commercial
prosperity. He said great embarrassment existed,
which he illustrated by many recent failures, and
iu our case, the failure of cotton mills, where 4,000
!termini were put out of employment.
Colonel ELLISON spoke in favour of the grant.

Mr. FREEMANTLE followed on the saute side.
Fle said a reduction of 90,000/. had been made on
the Windsor Establishment. Ile denied that the
grant to the Queen was merely as travelling ex-
proses, it was fur general purpose*. Ile thought
the present grant was one winch the people of
bigland should approve of.
TIERNEY denial that the course he had
taken, or any expreasom of his, cent to say that he
would not oppose the present grant. The Bill
Caine limn the Lords—it passed this House—no
'salary trots meson-wed in the Bill—no allusion was
made to salary. A communicati was made from hie
Royal Highness that he asked for no riansineristion,
but if it were the phassure of the House to give it,
be begged it would not he nut of the Privy Purse.
The law conferred the office, lost the law gave no
salary —none was asked by the Duke. It was said
that this was a public office, sod that a salary should
sopritato to it —to this lie would say, that the law
that coostilliteil the office, did nut contemplate,
become it did nut provide. a salary. It was said that
10.000/. was orcetwory ler the clmrges attending that
office--but there was 110 Cabe to shew that the ex-
proses of the office would amount to 10.000/. a-year.
He would tliesefore pause, aril he was more coin-
our to pause and to examine, because this slim of
10,000/. as-year was asked for antler false prettied.
There was something in the back ground suspi-
cious, and concealed—the House did loot see it—the
counts,' did mit satolerstatof it ; he would say to the
Mitioser, speak nut ; do not impose upon the coon-
Ity—do nut degrade Royalty. He beard it said,
1114 was 011 office ef theity—an office that was
tramline, to the existence of the country. Now this
office, virtually since June last. positively since
November, was vacant; no curios was appointed.
is the Minister sincere ? If en, ratty did he not
provide for the office whets the Queen ceased to
till it ? Why doll he nut call Parliontent to.
goiter ? This alternative was befoee them—whe-
titer the King was to he without a crab's, or
the Minister without a Parliament-eand they pre-
ferred the latter. They 'decided, that the King
should have no autos to protect him, sooner thou
the Minister should have a Parliament to control
lion. It was smut that the oilier was a public
one, aril cue of respousibility. Fie denied it.—
Would say PIC say that the Queen of lifighted
was capable of holding a public office ? If
soy wok was bold enough to say the Queen of
England could hold a public offid•r, would he be
rash enough toisay that the Quern could he re-pon-
sible.—(llear, hear.)—Shr was doll rcsirodirdlllc—
uo responsibility was attached to the office ; the
Council was responsible. and they alone. As to
the duties of the Windsor Establishment, the
Groom of the Stole •brd :2,000/. a-year, and lie
bad a deputy; they had to attend the details
of the Establishment, thi refore no trouble, no
labour was imported ou the restos, or pertained
to his office. The iughters, who never
left the roof of their aiß cud Parrot, attend-
ed to him. The Duke had merely to see at
is distance, 141141 se+ o u, the orison of the King;
the physicist,* would not permit frequent ;
diny might interfere with the same hope of recovery
that still retnatos. If any signs in that recovery
appeared, lie had to see that it he reported to
the Counc.l. L% as this the labour that audio-
nerd a fresh burden on the people of 10,000/.
a 3eir I Judge of the office by labour, it was little
—judge of it by responsibility, there was tome,
therelore the Nltioner did rod ask for the 10,000/.
a year as salary—if he asked for salary, he
should Phew sontellang to deserve salary—he
could Hot do so, sod lie came meanly sneaks.%
to the Douse to ask fur this grunt, undor
the wretched pretence of &Armpits necessary

expenses. The Council hail no salary-..the
Grooms and Lord of the Bedchamber, no longer
receiving salary, desired permi-sion to attend on
the King without reward, to testify, in his afflic-
tions, their respect for their aged Master and
beloved Sovereign -end the strnoge and lamented
view presented ii clI, that the only prr•ori who
not attend on the liing—the only persno
sought for sultry, who asked for reward in dis-
charging, in thr last days of his life, those duties
which his virtues merited, which his a tHictlians called
for—was the King's own favourite him. It WS* said
that the office was our of great trust,of arduous 41114 :
why, could It be forgotten that the Duke now held
a sttuat' which required all his time and if it
was true that the offic.e of castuy required a great
deal of his tune, it must be false (as has !wen often
stated) that the office of C.. 11101111cr-ID-Cliirf re.
quired all his time, or, to auciiil to the duties of
the one, he moot neglect the 111111.4 or the other. It
appeared to him, as it would appear to the comitry,
to be a demand unworthy, unfounded, and brought
forward on flimsy pretences. It was a trying
occasion ; Parliament were called upon to act,
and if they bed any disposition to practise that
economy. of which they talked so much, they
would not odd to the burdens of a people who,
under every privation, had supported them,
who, in the hour of danger, forgot their wrongs
and their sufferings in the glorious effort for the
salvation of their coaat►y. He hoped the Parlia-
ment would not add to tile distresses of that coun-
try. Every man in private life looked up to the
example of the head. " From the bottom of my
heart (said he), I deplore that his Royal Highness
list beet. ill advised. I give him every credit for
good feelings, ile might have been spared the
distress, the i onntry might have been spared the
distress, of reflecting on a subject which must be
recollected wills pain for the situation of his Royal
Highness, and with iiiiilignation for those who ow-
toted a question which, on every consideration,
should have been avoided.

Mr. CANNtso. in N speech of great length, which
embraced a variety of (vice, supported the grant
of 10,000/. a-year to the Duke of York. The late-
ness of the hour, and the extrenle length of the
speech, prevent us Irons giving any thing like a re-
port of it. Sonic observations in his speech called up
Mr. SCARLETT and Mr. PEEL in explanation—
there was then a loud and general cry of " Ques-
tion !" when

Mr. BROUGHAM rose, and commenced defending
the speech of Mr. Deoinan, and after various oboes-
vations,contended that the grant to the late lamented
Queen had ceased with her demise, and that it was
fur Parliament ais consider of the propriety of con-
ferring it upon his Royal Highness the Duke of
York, as vistas, on the present occasion. To all
intents and purposes this sum of 10,000/. a year
reverted to the public. The question then was,
whether such a stint should be now applied in the
manlier proposed ? The reason of giving it to the
Queen was in consequence of the additional ex-
prip.es to which she was exposed, from the very
nature of the applications she had to meet residing
at Windsor. It therefore became now an item of
actual expense, and it was for the House to say,
whether the Duke of York, residing, as lie did, at
Oat lands, and from the very nature of the elspendi-
ture to which lie would be exposed, was entitled to
this additional grant out of the public purse.
It was perfectly impossible to suppose that the ex-
tra expense to which his Royal Highness would he
entitled. would amount to one-tenth part of that
sum. It had been said that this was a responsible
office, and that a salary must he attached to it. To
a salary there could be no objection ; but the pre•
sent resolution precluded the possibility of consi.
derl,l4 the subject in any other light 01.811 as a re.
maw-ration for actual expense. Taking the ques-
tion in every point of view, lie could not, foll
si,tetitly with his sense of duty, vote for the motion
before the House.

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Mr. CANNING and Mr. Drtssiwt4 mutually ex-
plaiuett, when the question being loudly called
for, the Howie divided, and the numbers were—
For the Motion 247
Ag.iust it

!Majority
Adjonrited at ONE o'C Loot.