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&aside shisig lave omdonsti than titzea. nets&
indeed have had thnt reed, with regard a dii-
iltitAble for;c47:or foreign service; but he doubted
mach, wbe our internal force larlaien aug-
mented in' t e same proportion. He should not,
however, ,commit himself by a positive declaration
,upon the subject, but reserve himself until the neces-
sary papers upon the subjea were laid before the
Souse. He confessed that he did not expel such
an effeCt from that absurd and ridiculous Bill, for
such he must cell it ; and hoped, that its repeel
notthi be one of the fink ails of the gremot Session.
Lard GRikiiVILLE" My Lords, I rise to give
' my entire and complete concurrence to every part
of she Address. It so perfedly caoincisles with every
capitalism which I have used, and every sentiment
which 4 have uniformly professed, upon the great
question which it embraces, I mean the question of
war, thatitantist of necessity command my full and
entire consent. I hold it my duty, and the duty of
ever: mad, .not only in this Howe, but in the
country at larse, to concur in the 'determination to
support the war in which we are engaged. with
that vigour and firmness from which done we can
expel a successful and prosperous issue; to support
it not merely by word., but by the most strenuous
and efficient exertions in his power. By these
general words, I do not mean. however, to
pledge mYsolf to all the detail of the several
subjects which the Address may embrace.—With
all the particulars of the state of the military
force of the country, and other subjects, which it
comprehends, I cannot be presumed so well ac-
quainted, as to be able, at this moment, to give a
decided opinion. Upon these, then. I must reserve
myself, until the necessary papers are laid before the
House, and I shall have had time to consider them;
but, with this reservation, I repeat, that the Ad-
dress has my full and complete concurrence, and
that it becomes the dirty of every man in this coun-
try to support the war by his most vigorous ex-
ertions. In saying this, t would not be under-
stand to express a wish adverse to peace. I wish for
place, for peace is the legitimate ()hie& of war. I
am happy to find. that, at the pursuit of that ob-
jea. we are not left to our own exertions ; that we
are determined to cultivate the friendship and sup-
port of other nations, pad, by united energy and
efforts, to endeavour to attain that desirable end,
particularly that His Majesty is resolved to conned
himself mere closely with that country, which, of
all others, is best entitled to the name of our natu-
ral ally. This opinion I have never ceased to main-
tain in this House. I have inculcatedandmain-
tained it, for along lime, and with various success,
and am happy now in the likelihood of haying that
opinion sanaioned and confirmed this night, by a
vote of this House. Whatever difference I may
have with my Noble Friend, the Right Honourable
Secretary of State. upon other topics, it is with pride
I have heard him this night express his adherence at
these principles. The declaratioadoes him hamar,
and is a just subjea of exultatioo. Me has naksewo!
ledged, that, in the too great eagerness for peaces
which we had shewn upon former occasions, fly
enemy looked to this country its a conquered country.
I hope. therefore, that if the overtures for a peace
shall be entertained, and lead to a negotiation,
the important principles held out in the Speech from
the Throne will never be forgotten. Upon the
other points of the Speech, little remains to be said.
Nu time is to be lost to make all necessary exertions
to carry the war to a successful issue ; nor can there
be, lam convinced, a difference of opinion in thie
House upon that subjea. Beyond this, the Address
does not pledge us ; and, as we are todeliberate upon
the fads stated in the Speech from the Throne at
some future period, it would be preposterous to pro-
voke a discussion now ; and, therefore, I shall re-
serve my observations upon them until the moment
when the necessary Papers shall be laid before the
House, and the precise faas are settled and ascer-
taiiied. But, however full and complete my assent
to the Address may be, and, however I deprecate
premature or unnecessary discussion, I shall say,
that, upon the subjea of the pecuniary supplies
granted by Spain to France, they do not afford a
proof of any thing like the justice of the Cale. Were
we acquainted with the extent, and all the particu-
lars under which they were granted, the peculiar
circumstances might alter the merits of the goes-
non ; but I profess myself ignorant of the detail,
and only mean to assert, that the mere aa of fur-
nishing supplies is not sufficient to justify hostilities.
I do not wish to damp the spirit of the country, nor
to say any thing against its rights ; but, while we
claim what is due to ourselves, and express our de-
termination to obtain that due, even at the expence
of a war, let us not forget what is due to others.
Supplying of succours to an enemy, in a limited
extent, and where it is not connelcd with an offen-
sive Treaty, but results from a stipulation made in
time of peace, does not jive a just right of war
against the nation furnishing such pecuniary assist-
ance. The war, however, being now commenced,
two questions naturally arise out of it ; a qoestion
of right, and a questi.m of policy. For the reasons
already assigned, I shall now give no opinion upon
either ; but, I must say, that the mode of commenc-
ing it has proved extremely unfavourable to us.
I am far from saying, however objeaionable it may
apparently be, that it will not admit of any expla-
nation that CAA justify, nip/place it in a favoinahle
view. But still I must regret the impression, how-
ever praaicalile its removal, because, I do nl:flit,
that any attempt to justify the mode, brings us to
the question of the right, and expediency of the war.
Alb-owing the oar to be both right and expedient,
what I complain of is, that the course pursued has
made an unfavourble impression. and this very im-
pression is an argument, that the way in which we
have begun is not right. I have expressed no
opinion that the capture of the Spanish frigates off
Cape St. Mary is unwarranted by the law of
nations ; bat the impression made by that proceed-
ing is bad, nor is it in the least removed by what
has been declared this day from authority ; I mean
that, before the capture was known at Madrid, our
Minister had demanded his passports, and quitted
that city. God forbid that the departure of an Am-
bassador from a country to which he was accredited,
should be considered tantamount to a declaration of
war, or a just ground for it. I shall, however, re-
frain from saying any thing farther upon the suhjoa,
until a proper opportunity, and I hope that other
Noble Lords will reserve themselves until the neces-

r. salt decoct its shall be laid before the Noose. I I
ihaA only repeat, that I lament the unfavourable
opinion whit% the captute of the Spanish squadron
• has produced. With regard to the other parts of
oSspteebceh
always, a goo
ad
tHh country Majesty's
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ff the
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;stabtoetoift
must be particularly so at a crisis like the present. I .
matterPiBtire
am sorry, however, to hear it stated, as a source of
pride and exultation, that we have been two years at
war with France, id have not been yet invaded.
I am sorry to bear it stated, from another quarter,
in the same spirit, that we have been for eighteen
months threatened with invasion, and that an enemy
has not yet been found upon the coast of this
country."
The Duke o!NORFOLIC, alluding to the Ro-
man Catholics of Ireland, said it was notorious that
the Eaecslitive Goverisheie of that country had
some years since retired, because the question of the
emancipation of the Catholics could not be carrier.
kk did not expect that, after a proceeding, that
evinced so stro.sg an opposition at the time, it
would be hastily taken up again t. but lie did hope
that it would be brought forward and finished in the
present Parliament. Several meetings of a respect-
able part of she body of the Catholics of Ireland, he
understood, bad been lately held in that country.
He did not know what bad been done at them, as
he had no connection or correspondence with them
upon the subjea. If they have forborne from pres-
sing forward their demands, in consequence of an
assurance that Government will take their case into
consideration, be should be satisfied. If not, and
he should be told that the Catholics were content to
remain as they now are, in respell of their rights and
privileges, he should think it wise to enquire farther
into the subjea. AU he sought now was an answer
• to one or other of these two points; and he hoped he
should not be disappointed.
No answer was given. The Address was then
agreed to wens. die.
Lord GRENVILLE wished to know on what
day it was likely that the papers come :teal with the
several points in His Majesty's Speech would be laid
upon the table, and when they would probably be
taken into consideration ?
Lord MULGRAVE-4' I cannot state any par-
ticular day for laying the papers, to which the Noble
Lord alludes, upon the table; but I am anxious for
as early a day as is pottible. because I am convinced
they will be fot.n.l perfealy tatisfaCtory ; that they
will support every statement founded upon them,
and make out a complete case for the Gnvernm.ent
and the country. lam also anxious that there should
be full time between the period of their being laid
upon the table, and that for taking them into con-
sideration. At he same time I must regret that there
should be any delay in removing the unfavourable
impression.made upon thenaind of Noble Lordibe-
ing convinced that apenual of them will effeaually ito
;way any unfavourable 14eawhichhe now entertains."
MR. )U9'FIOE FOX
The Marquis of ABERCORN rose and spoke to
the ballowing effect:—" My Lords, I take this op-
pnrtunity to remind pans Lordships of a business
which I took the libertysoftnemiening to your Lord-
ships in the course of the last Session. I allude to
the charge of misconduct which I have brought for-
ward against Mr. Justice los, one of His Majesty's
Judges in Ireland. It may be thought, perhaps,
that there has been too great delay on my part for
an affair of this nature. I can, however, safely
say, that I am a man who never threw away an
.tour in my life which ought to have been devoted
to any important business in which I was concerned,
and of that description I consider the present to be.
I can also pledge myself to your Lordships, that
upon this occasion almost the whole of my time has
been occupied in preparing the charges, and the evi-
dence in support of them,Tor the purpose of laying
them before the Home. It is, therefore, with a de-
gree of satiafaCtion although 1 confess the sublet
is not one calculated to afford pleasure, I can now
inform your Lordships, that every enquiry which I
have made, and every information which I have
been able to collea, have served to confirm me in
my original opinion upon this subjea ; and that I
have all the charges,and the evidence to support them,
perfeiuly arranged and complete, exceat only one,
and that is the least iniportant of the whole. The
form of the proceedings your Lordships are to di-
re& and determine, as you shall think proper. All
that was necessary for me to do I have dune, and
am ready to lay the documents before the House at
A moment's notice."
Lard CARLETON, in answer, said, " I nee to
inform the Noble Marquis, who spoke last, and to
inform this House, that I have received a letter
from Mr. Justice lox, in which he declares 'himself
perfealy ready and willing to hear and answer
every charge that may or can be' brought against
him; bin, however prepared he may he, it is his
wish that the business should not be brought
forward until after the ensuing term. His ob-
jea, in wishing for this delay, is obvious, as he
will, of course, have to examine sonic of the
Judges and Lawyers in his defence. To call
upon them, at a time that would interfere with
their business, is an inconvenience which ought
to be avoided, if possible. It would, therefore, be
desirable if the time were so arranged that the wit-
nesses might be examitied here, in the interval be-
tween the close of the team and the ensuing assizes,
so as to enable them to return home in time to at-
tend their Circuits.
Lord HAW E LSBURY—" My Lords;this is tI. e
first case of the kind, I believe, which has happened
since the passing of the law, that renders Judges irs.
dependent of the Crown. I am extremely sorry that
it should have ever been found necessary to take a
business of this very important and peculiar nature
into your consideration, and that such a case should
have ever occurred. Of the circumstances you nei-
ther have, or can have, AS yet, any information diet
can now be examined into. However, as articles
of impeachment are to be laid before the House
against a Judge of the land ; for the sake of pure
justice, fur the sake of the Constitution, and for the
sake of the judge himself, who is placed in this pe-
culiar situation, and who .c charaaer rests upon the
result ; it is necessary that the charge should be in-
vestigated speedily. I would, therefore, propose, that
the necessary documents be hid upon the tabl. on
Monday, and that the House shall, at die same time,
determine upon the form and mode of the proceed-
ing upon them."
Lord GRENVILLE said, that this being a new
and important case, be must dried to any proceed-

ing upon the documents,. en the same day in which
they were laid before the House. As, however, the
Noble Lord who spoke last, thought, that the great.
est dispatch wits necessary, and as the Ncible Mar-
quis had stated himself pettedly prepared, he saw
no reason why the papers should not be laid upon
the table to-morrow, if no other business was pressing.
The Marquis of ABEttCORN said, if it were
the wish of the lime that he should bring fort/oar:I
the articles to-morrow, he would do so ; at the same
tittle th.tthe did not exped so early a day would be
appointed. So late as this morning, some
tion bad been made in the wording of one of the Jr.
tides, and, he was not sure that it might not be
made still more complete. However, as he had de-
clared himself ready, he should not recede from hi;
word, but produce the articles to-morrow, if 11,.)
House thought fu. At the same time, he wished the
business might stand over until Monday.
Lord HAWKESBURY hoped, that the Iloti,e
would concur with him in opinion, that the p,
should be laid upon the table on Monday, at..:...;
Wednesday be fixed for taking them into coo:.
ation. The House accordingly acquiesced in 0..1
arrangement.
Lord II A WKES BURY said, that from the nll7-
ner in, which the Noble Lord, respelling whoa'
meant to make a motion, hacf acquitted himself: ass
the satisfaCtion which he had given their Lordshipt,
he anticipated their unanimous vote. He accw:l-
- moved that Lord Walsingliam be reappoint-
Chairman of the several Committees, Ste. of the
House.—Agreed to Bens. cfis. Adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.
This day the SPEAKER and several Member
were assembled at half-past 2 o'clock, and in abim
half an hour afterwards, The KIND having an ivei
to open the Session of Parliament, Mr. Quilt...,
Deputy Usher of the Black Rod, delivered to the
House His MAJEST v's command, that they shoeia
immediately attend him in the lloute of Peers.
The SPEAKER, and all the Members present, im.
mediately obeyed, and on their return he infoic.i.l
them that, in pursuance of an Itel of the 34th of His
present Majesty, he had issued, during the recc,,,
NEW WRITS,
For the Ele&ion of Members to serve in
mein, for Warwick, in the room of Sir G.
lyn, Bart. deceased ; for Horsham, in the tdr:r
E. Ross, Esq. deceased ; for Dumfries, in the r..)rn
of Sir Robert Laurie, Bart. deceased ; for Tx.

ncss, in the room of James Burland, Esq. dece..--ti
A number a new Members then took the o.,'ts
and their seats, and amongst them G. B.
waving, Esq Knight M the Shire for the Count el
Middlesex. He was introduced. between thr Wm.
Curtis and Mr. H. Thornton.

The Bill for preventing Clandestine Outlawries
was next read a first, and ordered to be read a s..N.
card rime. . .

( Many of our readers know that this is a pee
forms Bill, introduced at the commet.:e..ient of
every Parliament, in order to assert the right and
privilege of the Commons to procead upon any
business of public concern, previously to taki7.;,.
into consideration any speech w menage coming
from the Throne.)
On the motion of various Members, new wzits
were ordered to be issued for the Election of dem.
bers to serve in Parliament for the County of kat.
land, in the room of Lord Carberry, deceased; for
Devizes, in the room of the Right Hon. Henry M-
dington, since created Lord Viscount Sidenouth ; tar
Haddingtoa, Dunbar, &c. in the room of Sir
Maitland, since appointed Governor of Ceylon; for
West Low, in Cornwall, in the room of .1. Buller,
Esq. who has since accepted the Chiltern Hundreds;
for Peeblccbire, in the room of .t. Montgomery, F.N.
since appointed Lord aldvocate of Scotland ; t; r
Edinburgh, in the room of Charles Hope,
since appointed Lord Chief Justice Clesk.

THE ADDRESS.
The Snits Kea then acquainted the House that
he had attended His Majesty in the House of Peers,
who was pleased to nuke a most gracious Speech
from the Throne, of which, to avoid mistakes, lie
had obtaii.ed a copy, which he then read. (For a
copy of the Speech, vide the Report of the House
of Lords.)
The Hon. I-L AUGUSTUS DILLON then rose
for the purpose, as he said, of moving All Address
of Thanks to His Majesty for his most gracious
Speech, in which, he thought, he should have occa-
sion to consume such a very little time, as, per-
haps, there scarcely ever was in a Speech delivered
on a similar occasion, srhieticould possibty create kw
difference of opinion, or which v. as more entitled
to unanimous concurrence. Many of the par.-
graphs contained in the present speech sv-i: 5t....
as were cakulated to infuse general sattsraction a it
joy through the House and the country ; and thou:-
there may be others likely to excite some ditfereta,
of sentiment, they could not with propriety Ise made
topics of discussion on the motion he should have the
honour of submitting to the 1-IJuw. Of this nature he
etinsidered the second paragraph to be, which related
to the rupture with the cowl of Spain, influeticed
as it was by the hostile counselsand the overbearing
influence of our imp'aeable enemy. Upon that sub-
jest lie should, fur the present, offer no opinion
whatever, as he made no doubt but retry Member
would agree with him in thinking that the pro:ei
time for discussing it would he when the Manifesti.
and the other documents promised in His Majesis's
Speech, should bit upon the table. It most gee
I them great satisfnetion to stateithat whatever may or
the result, propositions of a pacific nature fait be n
made on the pan of France ; and that, train the
feelings manifested by the Emperor of Russia, aid
the aggressions and violations committed by that
country and its government, the affairs of Europ..
now afforded a more encouraging and chvonj
1 prospea than they had done at the commence-
I men: of the war. It was a circumstance Nellie
Iflattering, to be assured, that, through the TWASIITO
adopted in the last year by the wisdom of Parl.r
meat, and the fervour, energy, and spirit, shewn
1 by the people throughout the realm at Rig., Ott
' naval and military strength was so martially Im-
proved, as to exempit us from the- dangers with
which we were heresnlore t .renamed. fie felt pe-
culiar statislaatoo in bearing his own testinvity to
that zeal and energy bring fully exerted in that
parr of this empire to whi..h he more pectsliarly ht-
louge2, and which was vet y lately considered as the
• toast vulnerable He neat adverted to the mom-