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pot hoard. which he qonceieed had so 'derelict
whatever to the question. li4 Right Hon. Gen-
tleman begs, et a period which is now Dearly out of
the memory of every man beige', the early pare of
the life of Vox. He stated that 1111 r. Fox vitae .b'
served, that the House of Consomme was the only
place Jo look for the opinion of the people; but
sorely Mr. FM. halt a °entire, ago, could never
have anticipated what she House of Commons of the
present day would be, and there is so man
at this time of day will ,ventere to say that the
Hesse of Commons does represent fairly anti folly
the 'feelings of the people. But it was rot a proper
test to try.the present state of the Hesse of Com-
mons by. what bad been applied at that time by
Fox, himself a reformer, and then under the impu-
tation of A eintlitios, which was, in his (Sir Francis
Burdett%) *pietism' the only mode by which any
good could be deaarfor taw country, while there ex-
stied • Ministerial
.phalanx within its walls. With..
out reform. no benefit could he effected for thq
nation. The Bight Hon. Gent. talked of the Admi-
nistration being su unison with the people. sod that
the Whigs. who possessed ell the wealth and talent
of the canary. were joined by the Medical.. the
.greet bulk of the people.—/Grip qf " Ao, no.")
—Well, then, he stated that the Whigs possessed
guest talent and weight, and that the Radicals who
formed the great man of the people-were footed to
them, and he trusted that the many would
look to the Whip for support and redress from
the grievances under which the (vestry groaned.
The NO& of attack too, and coarseness of eepeee-
snot the{ Imre valitoled by the Right Honourable
Grutlenillei"-Yillosimil.biao exceedingly. If they
were to trod numb Issipumis in We debates of the
Repot:o4of Atheries, it, would be adduced 'es a
wool of a waist of reasoning in that country,—
Whatever might be the defects of that Howse, and
he never would. either in or out of it, conceal
lois opinion of it, he would still uphold that
it always conducted its proceedings with decency
and order, and that it was one of the best practical
assemblies ib the world.—(Hear, bear./—He did
not mean to follow that gentleman through all the
windings of his speech. which might as well be con.
entered a speech on Belonging well as on any thing
else. Bet that question who be brought nailer the
coonderation of the Nei*, Owl he should not bud
teak with the Right Hon. Bent. for introducing it,
as it was materially conneeted with every question
in which the interests of the nation were concerned.
But he could not hear Min calumniate the people,
of whom he (Sir Francis), formed one. and im-
puting to them a disposition to evertor!' the Go-
sreruutent ; it was sorely most extraordinary at
this time, when the Right Honourable Gentleman
and Ma colleagues were doing every thing in
tlwir power to destroy ell respect fur the
Royal Family, and when that very people whom
he medal stepped forward to preserve Royalty
against the bOaintere of the Crown. 'Phis led
lout to the qeirstioo immediately before the House,
sad to should endeavour to approach it with all
Bar civettutopection, and ell that tender and due
regard to the feehngs of the King, which he en-
tertained, and at the same time with a view to
that jpstrce towards the Qireen whom he con-
ceived so ill treated. It was necessary then In get
out of ail dolt lumpe technicality, and to dispel
ill that darkness over which meanness loves to pros
• l"so Whether he biked to the &violin& the.
middle, or the tied of the proceedialt, liar elf
equally led to the condemnation of their condeets
—(ther, hear.)—They tell tie they were anxious
to preserve the tranquillity of the country ; and
what ere the means resorted to ? Were they to a
amour that her Majesty should stay abroad, then
they 'Mould have treated her in inch a instiller as
to induce her to remain there; and if it were
u wrong step for her to come here, Ministers
were she cause of it. AU the difficulties of which
they talk ere difficulties of their own creating.
Soppose that when her Majesty arrived in this coun-
try she had been treated as she deserved, and
that no indignities were offered her, she probably
would sever have been of such political import-
ance ; her Court would have been attended with
none but disinterested courtiers—she would have
no influence or patronage to bestow. They might
hare proceeded in the Ecclesiastical Court, if they
bed any thing to prove, without inundating the
country with such expositions; hail they done thus
nut a man io England would have said one word
on the subject. But what was the mode resorted
to? They bring froward charges which ought
never even to have been mentsoned, unless slop-
' ported by such testimony as not to leave a doubt on
themind of any man. But there could be no greeter
offenre organist the Throne or the Moilarchy, them to
bring forward charges of so odious a nature, and
then to attempt to support it by testimony on which
no man would hang a dog. But the Right flues.
Gentlemen had spoken of the Queen as not ac-
quitted ; whet, then, becomes of Alt efficacy of the
measure ?—( Hear, hear.)—lts the mode of pro-
ceeding there was a total want of justice; and on
this point, he was sure he should have the 'nepotist
of the Honourable Gentleman opposor (the Amur-
trey-General.)—(A laugh.) —lei the first place. they
commence by sinking her name out of the Lineup,,
and then they bring in their charges. Tnen came that
qtereh which the Attorney-Grovel permitted him-
self to make, in language so gross and iiedecent.—
(Ifear, hear.)—Thuu he attacked the Quires, with
all that rhetoric, which, he thought, could be only
collected in the lowest brothels of Billeogegatte,
not restrained by any of the circumstances of the
ease., not esen liv the unprotected slate of the party.
• peek pedoe!" and all these things he stated iii
such a moonier (for lie must compliment him on his
engenuits) as was well calculated to produce a most
poisonous effect, which lie poorest turtle egonist the
Queen ; sod he spoke in such a manner es if thesis.
thor of all evil had filled his heart, or prompted his
tongue. For even if these charges hail hero true, if
lie p.Asessed the spirit of a man—(Load el irs of
" Ihder, order.")—('Phu Speaker hese interouseii,
opens which the lion. Baronet observed that hr wa.
sleety, thank's)! for correction whees lir irenseressril
the lsomds of discussion, and he bowed with sub-
mission to the decision of the Sprokerl—But ter
moo say that wheel these cleari,ces weer brought
'",t'411151 this Illusteiuus Lioly, even of she had beets
the unfortunate women she %V tI4 represented,
there %R. 9ninellnalg in her situation to excite
4"Paw'intt, if out to palliate her emit. IS'lipie
lint Afr. Attorory-Georral come forwent, he w.,•
wployrtl by the State; ilext he appeared uu

the idea of saying the Queen was not acquitted.
Nothing could be of a'more mischievous tendency.
The late President of the Board, of Control had
pronounced a verdict against their conduct, who
had stated that by compromise it might blow over.
He believed if that Right Hon. Gentleman had
hail presence of mind. and remained here, instead
of leasing the country, he would hive been able
to have otopped the proceedings. There was no
person in the reentry that did not regret they had
ever taken place; then nothing hot state necessity
could tare werreeted them, and no such necessity
had afen mole dot. When the separation took place
between this illiiitrious Lady arid her husband there
was an end of her rank. If his Majesty's Mini*.
ten let her go abroad, if she was a nitschievous two-
tarn, they were guilty of • high crime, for if the
iiiterest of England was concerned in her conduct
they ought nut to have allowed it. According
to the statement of the Attorney-General, a crimi-
nal intercourse had been going on for six years,
without a single remonstrance of his Majesty's
Minister., and when he came to prove his caste;
he dropped the three last years, the most material
part ; for was it ever heard of a person going on
with • criminal intercourse for three years, and
then stop *Oh the saute opportunity of carrying it
on ?—(Hear,)--and all the time of this career of
debauchery, according to the Hon. and Learned
Attorney-General's opening speech, her name re-
mained in the Liturgy. If she had been a sinner
and repented, why strike her came out of the
Liturgy on the death of the late King ?—(Hear,
hear.)—He had always understood that his late
Majesty had as good • moral character as
his present Majesty's Ministers.—(Hear, hear.)—
Hie lute Majesty was her natural protector, and
gave her his support while lie existed. The Noble
Lord (Castlereagh) had said, that on account
of the misconduct of her Majesty, it would have
been a mot kery to have inserted her Mr esty's
name in the Liturgy but he bud not proved that
misconduct. The Noble Lord knew the ab-
sence of his Right Honourable Colleague spoke
more in favour of her Majesty than his presence
would ; but he heeded not ; he depended ou the
majority of that House, who were the fair tepee-
•sentittives of the people, as the Hon. Member for
Cork Castle would wish them to believe. He con,
eluded by observing that Ministers had not done
their duty, or used seined discretion in advising that
such iosehtaalseeld be offered to their Qesess
Mr. Pt raptaitted.
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The ATTOILEET.GEN REAL said it had mai was
his intentiou to have troubled the Howie by taking
a part in this debate, but after the personal attack
that had been made on him by the Hon. Baronet.
in justice to himself he could not remain silent.
The lion. Baronet commenced by making an attack
on his lion. Friend, by ailing that he had violated
the decorum of debate, but he would appeal to the
House whether the Honourable Baronet had not in
the course of his speech committed • greeter breach
of decorum—(Crier of" Hear, hear"—" No, wo.")
The Hon. Baronet had thought proper to run away
front the subject they were discussing, by alluding
to a speech of his (tile Attorney-General's) its an-
other place, and to what had occurred in the Court
of King's Bench two days ago, in arguing a case
its winch the Hon. Baronet is a party.—(cries aj
" Order, order.")—He threw himself on the in-
dulgence of the House for liberty to rebut the per-
sonal attack that had been made on him. The
Hon. end Learned Gentleman then went into the
history of what intik place in the Court• of King's
Bench on Saturday, urguitig the case of Sir
Francis Burdett, and contended shit there was no
more difference in Ins conduct there as a professional
Inc) than in the other House of Parliament, in the
proceedings against the Queen. lie had on that
occasion a must velum's and painful ditty to per-
form; certain papers were ordered to be laid be-
fore him by the House of Lords, and from them
he bad made his statement, and it was not his fault
that they were of a disgusting nature: the main
facts stated by lieu in his opening speech were
made out in evidence.—(Hear, hear.)—He was
not going into the fact whether the witnesses who
proved them ought to be credited. The charges
were for the period of six years, and he d. tailed
all the et idence in support of then ; and, if ih a wit-
nesses were credited, they would have been made out.
He contended that his opening speech in the Home
of Lords could huve nothing to do with the argu-
ment on the I Inn. Baronet's cise iu the King's
Bend,. There the lino. Barotot widened to pro-
duce affidavits implicating other persoes, and he
objected In it as a lawyer. lie concluded by
thanking the House for their indulgence in allow-
ing loin to rebut the attack made on him.
Sir FRANCIS BURDETT explained.
Mr. 'ftvamEtr sand the motion, as stated, was to
turn out his Majesty's Ministers, and certoinly, if
coined, wool', turn out 'my other Msurster.. It
MIR now eight innoilis since they howl received the
Message stating the complaints against her Ma-
jestv's conduct while abroad, accompanied with
papers, dial this w... she first time they had hi.rl
tile (Twirl unity of discussing the svlttAe conduct
of his 3dalesty's Mili:+ierS 011 tlie.e inuert-dings.
5,...1 idler chic deals Or the Prioe-eis ChM lour,
Itillwrs Were hielidelf runt: to the Miniwril Or
110'1. [Gerrit.. imitnii,if or reports of the conduct of
the then Princess of Wales. and I.10:11 tile motile,'
tlw Impels were so r.lerred, he held his Al.t.jraiy'a
Mitiv.frps Witte, They, he believed, bold sheen
lieture sotne legal 11140, and he inwir a report, and
whatever was suggested In that report, if itdopted
by the Noble I.9td opposite anal ens Colleagues,

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they llefeirgeolde siren is.. Bidan &Amis.
eie, had dente the ishwls atioehief ; for at thus Mese'
omoseogr.,eros: mai 'gimes to the reports of
pee cairloct to tbe
,p,est ef her Majesty; tad it
proposition• was ibis mode tole* illiejestv it *Staid
have mind the pelmet disco ism. The liken Mors
mission was appointed •in laths and it mt. for. ten
'soothe Openly mod pebliely, fie would he glad
so know if there mold be any better Mode teters
to prevent Subsequent compromise or amicable ar-
rsegensent ? . The Commission consisted of two
fitness and•gentleise'stoometed with the embassy
of Lord Stewart. He did not know how for the Coo..
minion was to go. but if it was to Fork for evidence
agailst the Queen, he would charge the Ministers
with that crime, for there never was a more runway.
rentable proceeding. The Hight Hen. Gentlemen
went into a review of the policy of she Bill of Prim
and Penalties, and contrometed the arguments ad•
duced in its faitour by the Attorney-General end
the President of the Board of Control, from whom
assertions, in sbpport of their own Argumets, he
drew the inference that the Bill was as in-
expedient el it mu unjust and oppressive.—
Ile replied to the arguments, made against himself
and those with whom he had the honour to set.
fie declared that though he considered office as a
fair object of ambition' be only assumed that pro-
fession on behalf of his friend., for as to himself he
felt that his days were numbered, and thin he had
not strength emogls lsit to fel6l the duties of any
*dice. He coseludee a eery leasopiseettref onseh
more than ordinary ability, by iseitiolpithe Hesse
to reflect that it was not so meth Mininiers who
were on their trial, as the House itself, arid all Ise
would add further was, " God seed it a good de-
liverance !" [The speech (lithe Right Honourable
Gentleman was followed by long and loud cheers.]
Lord CAsTLEREAGIi rose to reply so the Right
Hon. Gentleman. He congratulated the party op,
posite on the manly and cardid way in which the
question had hero brought forward by the Noble
Mover and the Hon. Seconder. In his apiarist's,
the party owed too much to them for having been
rescued from the staccesoion of milk-rod-water mo-
tions, with which they (the part)) had besieged the
attention of the House. At last they had brought
the question of the comparative mein of the two
sides of the House to an issue, and he was hoppy to
meet them upon it.. His Lordship then went unto
an extensive defence of the conduct of Ministers
as pursued towards the Queen while abroad.—
He for one would have felt asgssned to sign a dis-
patch requiring a servant of the Crown at a foreign
Court to take his seat on one side of her Majesty,
while her courier oat on the other. But suppose
Ministers so have assisted in procuring her that re-
cognition at loreigii Courts which she was denied
at house, what would have been the use made of it ?
Her Majesty would have come into the country
with suet, MI instrument in her hands--(Losighter)
—as would have streogtheried her pretensions in no
trifling degree to those high privileges to which she
thought herself entitled.
Mr. BROUGHAM rose at a quarter pest four
o'clock, and 111 a strain of the richest elotemee
addressed the House for about two hours. He en-•
treed into a defence of her. Majesty, and a justifi.
cation of his conduct. It bad been in-inuated that
lie vim not quite convinced of her blejesty's
iteettece--and he took thAilifitsimusisiffle mak Jug
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MOON, 04 the Marquisof TAWIWOCICII MOttOti, was
►e'umed yesterday everting. With regard to the
motiou of the Noble Marquis. nothing could be
devised more complete
.or satisfactory than the
term. in which it was comprised. The motion
charges—•

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wbo wets well asvared that in kowiikit•
dal which th.ey might , afterimage fidnie ••
oneen fame a ih- country. they wed' •.
seeds or o,i+ utru future„fortuaes. "Pawr.
dims who first deceird the himisirrs , .?
'he Princesa.iad the tinisterascted with •
ulity in repos'ng a ready ceit6tkuct7 iii
ited and Unautheisticited vastrineatiyoutt
impropriety in, see log stow/ the drew,
ineirty not the noes of eacertaining rho
original report* tit of adding Waiga4
ncy to their reptiventations. +he pro.. '
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la what the 'exult must have been of in-
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era found suppli and a•re,,Kiii otilniar •11
not only of the luvrest d 4,4 e. of 1.1.%...-foti .
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raeleta the rnt4t ebatid.o.ett ; !•:.n the/ '% . . 4 •
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the irkvesuig,liot) etuthig pet . • .::.4 7,
,I C and u 'limp" died cloractet . iii 4„?
id with a to4festatiott of feeling' illif .' ler.dN'sh4
ostile to the Qflii:ek, tier world 1141104 ..
oviera4
heard of the ilan Commissiotto 101, l'
House of Lord. have been occupied Ow • .." '
details loathsome ;:w aawki.wpittg. to .• • . •
Konstituted mind. and which 4i4IIIRINIA ''
stand in eternal charsictexa twin' thr 1. i
botlo ilnuses, as the reproach and die-
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parliamentary aunala.
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iiii
ciple of hostility towards the Q'tlittir •
distinguished on every occosijou from