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Royal word. It helnro found impo•olble to al"tr if•-
.
:!ley. at List, eno.entet? wi /Icarus. ; and. )wire
die matter might have eadtd. Still bits M j-sty
was coorent to retain th -se kliallsorts ia rwir -•rton-
-1
sii.os ; but no. Sir, rh-y thernselfei world not al-
' . law it. llicy came forward with a se: of stipula-
tions, w'ich. I insist upon it, Ili. •Aajesty Could not
coastitotioaally.accedz to Phey insisted uptso red
taming the tigla of a4441:4411g the measure, from
time toi thnit, as circumstances might require. 11.11
was most antiliteasary ; hecause thataigbt, althougl:
the Bill was withdrawn, otriaiised its pure and.
uncootrquled as ever, .as to the catholic Petition.
Its Maj. sty, however, w 46 convinced-Oh*, .he;
could not coostitationally consent fo• it, its it' was:
an infringement of that part of the Royal Piero-
- *hive, that no measure shall be brought froward
by Ministers, when thee know olait heel completely
a.tversie to it. This, I believejs not
.the written
-pert 'of our Constitutional L'SW.• but• still it has
brio'daythoughrto be xiclear•as any other.
—; laving thus. fir, as i foist, suifitiendy thewn
tt;a: t':e cause! of Ho Maj-sty'slate 'Ministers on
wf.oes' has oceasindird the present de-
:1; ;• • tees not bean to cAuThurly governed as it
-;;t1:i . by the thei.ft prineiplos of the-Constitution;
, a b-en • also obliged to animaiivert upon
•• auli-equent part of their conduEr, in bringing
yapesit trans I lis faiesty's determination be-
jure the Pubhc, I can
.only Say, that • I deeply la-
' merit that such efreumatamoeshave arisen, as to &MSC •
inn in this public minuet to espreas my disappsoba..
.• 'tiro of their ccnctuß. 1 say t lament this, •because
I ens speaking. of persons wham, in other respeas,
mock regard ; hot, in this expiessit n of my
broth:stirs. I sot-only declare, that Ito i I mytelt
called to the !ointment of a duty, as a Member of
Pasha:twat, .which, with me, is paramount to every
• other cooeideration, and Which I v Mild not abandon
tut e..rthly good or consideration. In this ex-
•istess:sass of my sentiments, !feel animated by a sense
of patriotism to my country and duty to soy King; a duty fl twirler from that attachment I 'hate ever .
horse to t"e best, the most parental, and the most
patriotic of Sleet dons. Ls sn doing, I feel that l am
standing forth as a defender t.f. that Ctinstirittion
whit.". Is the admiration of the world; aid which, if
see reisnqUish, we abeixf osh at the ramp time, all our and mos, hr for ever fet't.tre:l with the g jr.g 4,1741G6 of despotism, or he towed to-and tio with
ttle boisterous waves of eicinsicratielnry. In
canna the jig oremgatives of His 111.1j.:sry, Roams. calk.! op to uoend one of the twin palairs of this
(79nstorislitsty the fall of which would. endanger that
Of the waoie fahrie." After apologia* toy the'
elate tat ti.- f lots,. he had taken up. ask, thanking
than ins their p ttient indoig .",re, the flonourable
hterober cooclutieJ with expressing his strong &s-
-wop to the 11,00.1.
Idifia•irint) declared himself a decided friend to
the a a 546411 as 1111 the condua of the /ate
lifiniutas.although hi disapproved-of that part of,
Voir coodaS its teith..franing the !till wi.ich they
had itittodused into the. House; ae the same time that fie tlint;:zrit their alsaridonment of that measure
stall .12 hself a comolete answer to all the calumnies
Gad then so plast,ii,sliy heaped upon them.
Tto: piecge woft:i bad hem requited of them was,
i.e ocher •d, noexampled its the history of this coml.
tr; a enact iech, it tney had Ligned, no puoishmeat
well .16
• it. too hvy to Wei& upon tbertrtfor the died as
h/wing the example of such a pleige, would
have oee.l to take oLf all :oats...risibility tract Minis
ter', and iture.-der the /tog absolute. It was ins-
p.aptale fur His Majesty's late Ministers to have
x4e4 y ot.terwistatnan theyabd. In their general
conJua tasty had faithfully discharged their duty to
thrar en.a.iti 7, and done much good,. and would
Lave ai,ayinoelt more, if they had contmed loto'
inpX.a. , thc name lamented their u
dismissal
from otEit, 'wheo- he reft,•ifear so the materials of •
which the stew otdministration was corritiosed liad their successors :Aseori men of that high
rag& and cothi.lersliall ill the country, and been endowed who tiatK • splendid taken, which'
would have iiipii•44 cor.lidance iattheir meas-
. sures, ttrre woasi.eatee o..ea lest rearm tit.,,, what
raked at proyenc, -to lament the dvprivatian of Flit Majevy's late Moo:vers.—
' lead rf.r ay list! Aga, !) But ho wei W e
L ijasty's present confulei.cial servantsw? Were
shy' ta,,altv very petions viho,aus the loss of a late
aussoe.st,Jrifshesasasi, I •Pot) confessed their inca-
pati'y loraatiJv the trhazhetie tif Goverriment vra..sno{heo us by borne, that the country should
Le sub:rattail tat toe Gnvertsuleat of such an Admi-
micoatiou tlis,vo. • all, be deprecated the Hied
which wads a eiarlse of G.nTriunant might pro-
dupe is; At a. tone woen the Roman Ca- •
tholics of Iretald entertained the sanatsiae hope of
a .remoral shisabluies from holding any
istEces Naval tido/sty Departments.
and that a. liberal syisem was about to be adopt..d
towards them, they would now be led to entertain
the fearful appefunama that the aystern try artial
law would be re-establisised in that coun Hut
the alTeOtarf persagagmactva &pastas of policy„ w9u1,1
be aquivaleat to an endeavour tr. effed a separation
ot t:.e two coo:Arica ; as it would undoubtedly en-
danger that Motestant Establishnsent, the guardtam
ship of which was the proleased ohjett of t',e new
Administration Ile siucerely hoped that Lis ao-
prooss,:ons wool.' turn out to be iii founded; at
the 6 one ince he felt it incumbent upon him to put
Alini«eis on their guard as to the future line or
etra'afal trey might adopt towards the ltoman Ca-
: abilics ...I Ireland.
• Ass. WHITSIIED KEENE considered it the
nnifoolsted pisvilite and right of His Majesty's Mi. omit's, to advise His fairjesty with regard to what-
ever 1111e46141tb they judged expedient for the good
of the county at large; at tilt same time, that
Ministers watt not to trench on the mal-Subted Pre-
rogatives of the Crown, or fundamental principles
of the Cuassitution. The dismissal of Ministers,
alittisugh en sA of Royal Pr.lr.)g.itilre, yet was an
evil in itself to be dreaded, iaasmuch as it produced
a tem,.orary dtslocation of the funaions of the Exe.
cu:is c G tate; macro. Its the present case, he thought
every Slue mend of his country must approve nt
she comind 01 the late Ministers, in retuong to sign
soda a pletige as that which was requited of them.
fdr. LV fi AisTON said, that 066 It-'4141e1i1016 of
sect. importatace, he Felt ' Mont nu him to de-
arequivecally. }I.
ion, upon two
rds of the In?.

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tints itself"; and alto, en aecennt of the hrgetraste and prelniet
and argumo•nts made use or he the fletqflentle- loony, as it,
I imp e lin had e.. 1 apd support 011. At •ylrokk. 13
' +De Centiefuan • fe..J epPeon les4 seemed In
.41 let eAsfi
oho? :sithe di . t -thinfrtket the
.11111,ofstere, .of eters, hew'
Id
the lairg were endef the contreurof their heverrign ; tainel sr; At the sable ' time that alley weree to be completely their grit
tfireler th'i ifivernmenri and suhjed to the &dn.:sof pendent
the White Boys of Ireland! It Appeared, from the In hope
line of ere:di:tent made use of by the Hon Gee,. winter
• who mcenied-the motioo. that hegrottnd.el it on the Gove
ie!'ea; that when a Mieistry was once torm-d, they grew had no' power to retreat; and ;his was a doetrine 'sent
which seemed to have been etedianed by the ars. tier
thOrity and coedit& of the late Ministers, who ma. 1w
Minted such a reludince to withdraw, without, at u
least, receiving a strong Lint on that sulaieil from a
higher power. He must elso objet t 1 the theoretic
doctrine of the Hon. Gentleman, that the respon.
sibility of Ministers was at an end, if it weir ad. .
mitted, that the King had .power to impose re-
strilions upon them. But it was incompatible
With the wisdom of the. Heusi., to entertain
dicefir ions. on 'any such abstred propesitinns....
Theie were many austead propositions, which
might in themselves appear incontrnvertible ; bet
which might, at the same time. be fraught with
danger, when applied to new cases; and certainly
there never• had been a CAS.: of. greater novelty,
than %deft the King's Ministers avow. their &tar
niinetion to lend the sauftiorf of their inflitenee to
• ' measures, not only independent of the concurrence.
of Hit Mitionf, but even ir, dived opposishie to his
deel.ired will and anti:neat. He might adduct, by
way of example. the sbecesiiiop, that formerly an.
Astrid resolution hail been inneed, to this 'fear
"That to restrain commeree„in any way... was.
inconsistent with . the welfare n; . the kiitgektmi
and that it. was thq duty of At Reuse is with.
stand any such reetridion." No one could- oh.
jet, to such an eisstreet proposition; and yet,.
lead they not seen the veistiom of the Legis.
• lature in imposing restridinns u_pren this cons.
merce, and granting a monopely of it in one of its
most imp9i tent branches? And yeti if such an ae.
arid proposition had been recorded on the Jnurnala
of toe House, it would have been no easy matter to have made any pealed! reguletensi, or have int.! posed any resrtietans on
.the softie& of this Gem.
mere. And if 4o tr. .pt •ncli au abates/a resolteinn
Would 6e prejudicial in the case of Carrirosree, ,how
much pore in a vostio i pup-Ix pnlitieal ; .and thus
to turn an abstra resifirtaeon: in atine against the
King, in the enclatibfrd exercise of •hiCregal ptero-
gative! /t .. as rust den becoming its that Moose, to
place the•Kingtie a tin/tattoo worse than that of any,
of his snisjefte Ifiluestiosseblieifany measare were
to take plate or: the part of Vie: King, to introduce
Popery, thii-siouidjus.ify ntesssureson the parent the'.
people, whiehunder other circumstances tvnuid Se un-
justifiable. BM, inpposing t h • t the King heibfinisters
who tonic upon them to declare, that Pepitiand E
reigners were fit to be entrusteil with tnem higiren-e
enmenandein the military aa,f naval services, and
were thus from time .tO time subret fine lii, MA..
jesty's title to the throne, ought not thel:trt in
such a case to he left in unrestrained possession of
his power, to lay restrielio ni'oa his Ministies from
bringieg forward any such measure.? Nor could
such restridions be justly termed compulsory,
whilst in any stvh eases of Ministers at:eniptio„7 to
eet iodised opposition to the will and sentiments of
Hts hlsj- •:y, they were left at Jiberty to resign
their re sp :,.file situations. , . • • Mr. LAMB explainesi his Meaning to have been,
that it Mioisters were to be restrained from eiteisiae
such measures as appeared to them. beneficial, there
see:. an enJ.to all 'c
nfidetice of Parltament and the
Countrit in the measures of such an Administreti on.
Mr. WHARTON explained.
Mr. FA`•VKES thought that the question now
under eeitatien, Was neither more nor less, than
whether we eveye to have any longer a Britith Con-
stitueiou ? It was.generaily agreed, that the late Mi.
misters hadeeeled discreetly in withdrawing their
;fill ; -and :le must say that...in so doing, they had
paid all defereiteei9 Vie conscientious scruples of-
the Kings .but had they, afterwards subscribed the
sr- itten aereementi or ceased one neiment mix the
inaipendeet advisers of their Sovereign, nr re-
crated the advice which they h id previaesly•offored,
they would have been jog, beyond all hope of re-
demption., to all sense of 'decency and shame, and
would have committed a fetal blow against the liber•
ties of their country. It Ministers were nor free eeents,
where was their responsibility? and in what difficul-
ties and dangers might not this country be suddenly
invidv•d? When William the Th:rd was about to dis-
solve the Parliiment which obliged him to disband
his Dutch Gun*, had his Ministers hesitated to dis-
eurb his reptsfe,.or to hurt his prejudices and his
peediledion in favour of these Gnatels, w!hit 'Lin-
gers or convulsions might have fellowed ? If
Minium. were once to be suffered to plead in their
must for not warning Hu bl.jesty against irn-
pendieg dangers, that they were unwilling to °Teel.
there was at once an end to the Constitution ; 11.e'
Meer might inked continue to be laid it-on the
Table, but the authority of which it was de sym-
bol. WAS at,an end. If tee landmarks of the Con•
stitution were once transgressed, what security re-
rresi.ed to the people of this Count-y? With moped
to the uprightness of intention in that August ?sr-
soilage who had dismissed his late ?stints:en, no
one could dnubt ; but, at the same time, no circum-
stances should induce him to barter those pure
principles of the Constitution, which those who ter-
med,' occupied the benches on which they sat, had
so strenuously upheld. Within the last month, the
most dangerous and unconstitutional sentiments h Ad
bevy broached in various publications; but, for his
part, he shouLl solemnly pledge himself against the
adoption of that system. which could not tail to be
injurious to the liberties of the country. fie had
sepponed the late Adrninirtratinn, because lie con-
sidered them as having concluded the affairs of the
country with impartiality and success As to the
Arllnihistration before them. none had prnmited
m tre. nee perfermed less; whereas, amongst the
ads of the late Administratinn, they had succeeded
in abol:shing
.the Slave Trade, a measure which,
few meaty years preceding, had been so miserably
procreated; they had also been procredirg in their
endeavours to assimilate the legitl erneeedings of
feaglend and Scotland; also to heal • ! wounds of
Irefind, mid to win the affeCtions of ewe country.—
For t we've j ears preceding, pledges had been given.

and prrimices mode, to the Catholic,. Irela.
ipi;y, as it. would aPpcar, th h ight
gorolaiTin. But now theltn
.peblic how tis
41 ice roof:ie.:we In_gublic men. I Minis-
ters.- howiiver, hoilisteedvved Chet °neer, and ob-
tained much mote than sufficient to cheer them in
their grief, He robe. his sentiment; as an inde-
pend.,nt Member of Pirliainent, who had nothing
to hope or to fear. To him it was comparatively a
matter •if indiffeionci; titan eondnded the affiirs of
Government. He ackoorrledged that there were
great taivnta, eloquence, and acuteness, ih the pre-,
tern AdmMistratina ; bin declared, at the aims
time, that he cool" not give them his support. whilst
he was afraid thit their condud did not proceed •
upon constitutional grounds
Mt. OSBORNE condemned the eonclud of the
late Administration, with respell to the Bill for the
Relief of the It ,m in Catholics of Inland. Haring
changed the measure -after it had been originally
introduce 3, they were hotted explichly to have as-
sured His Majesty of the nature of that change ;
bat in failing to to do, he considered them in this
tepid as deficient in their doty to the King tend
Country. On these grounds he disapproved of the
motion• and the discuss:on of the present question.
He therefore moved the following ansenfm.rnt to
the motion, "That after the word • that 'the words
• the other orders of the day be now read,' be in-
serted."
The SPEAKER accordingly read the original
motion from the Chair, aii.l atterw.srds the amend-
mint.

Colonel BASTARD expressed his disapprobation
of the House entertaining the discussion of ato,:r.aet
question., and tlionAht that they should be iestrifled
within the necessity of the CAW: With regard to the
present cuiesti us, he was not prepared to negative
the original motion, nor could he bring Isis mind
to vote for it. As to His Majesty's requiring a
pledge from his Late Ministers, he considered that
as arising out of the unnecessary declaration that
they had made after the Rll way withdrawn. Be-
fore the Howse were warranted to vote on an Ala-
st• ad question, such as the present, it would be
necessa: y to know the whale of what had railed in
Counsel, and mole accurate and specific documents
ought to be laid before the House, than tae mere
verbal statements of a Noble Loral Illowick).—
The:elan-, until he was before informed on the sub.
jeet, he shoold second the amended motion, that
the other orders o: the day be nose read.
Mr. ISIAURICE Fl :21.1EltALL) considered
this a (passim of great political importance. He
saw no sentiment in the original motion, in V%
slightest degree injurious to the Prerogative of the
Crown; nor any thing in vie conduit of the late
Ministers, that could •julitily such an im„..titation.—
They had submittedistich a measure as they judged
indispensable for did welfare of the empire at large
(. measure which he considered to be cne of abso-
:ate incesiii)), but which. as soon all they found
that tne kung °Netted to it, they had consented
to withdraw. :Int whilst the. made this eon-
cersion in tieltirrice to the itoyal will, they
still claim;,', Icona respr'l to their own rharac.
ter, and from a sense of duty to their King and
Country, th it, if they SAW a better opportunity of
promoting she we:fare of their country, they reserreci
to themselves the privilege of submitting their oenti•
meets te His Majesty. rh:s was the clime which
was now branded as an attack upon the Royal Pre-
ri•i.ative I In a crisis of great national danger, the
dismissal from His Majesty's counsels of these who
had.the rand of the empire at heart, WAS an event
t, be lam-nted on general grounds; nor were the
feelings of the people of Ireland to be overlooked.
In a moment of returning calm, and even without
the interposition of legislative measures, the confi-
dence of Ireland was manifested towards those
whose admini triton promoted conciliation. They
received the support of an Hon. Gentleman (Mr.
Grattan.) whine opinion must be taken as the
type of the public opinion of Ireland ; for the late
Ministry to receive the support of such a man, was a
great matter for theadvantage of Ireland. The state
of Ireland was certainly critical, and it was a serious
question how far it was politic to incteAse the enmity
tit four millions of persons t• ere of Another religiaus persuasion. He concluded by declaring that no
motive should deter him from warning we present
Ministers of impending dangers.
Sir THOMAS TUK fON rose twice, but it was
some tam before he could obtain a patient healing.
He gthen prooeeded, by saying, that however he
might accede to the aboraft proposition, yet it was
impossible so to consider it, as nut us see the drift of
the present Motion, especially after attending to the
Arguments of Honourable Gentlemen on the other
side, and observing that, in fag, the Prerogative of
the Crown was a:tacked under the pretence of yin-
d:cating the conclud of the late Ministers. If for-
mer Moistens had not pledged themselves to the
measure of Parliamentary Reform, or of Catholic
Emancipation, this WAS no reason why the late Mi.
nistry should give no pledge to promote no measures
hosteie to theProtestAntEstablishment r.f thecountry.
A Noble .Lord (Howick) at first only gave notice
of inserting a clause et two in the Nliiiiny Bill ; and
this was the whole of the lIICASUre which 11:441 HIS
Majesty's consent. Was it not then the bounden
dins: of the late Ministers, when they made an im-
portant alteration in the measure, dearly to have
s coeu
explained to His Maje.ty this Alteration. Ns CI.
planation sufficiently explicit WAS here giiren the
new Bill which was introduced, scarcely bore the
slightest feature of similitude to the Irish Alf of
,1793. This pill weix the length of repealing the
.Lest Aft, in its most essential provisions ; and was,
in truth, An attempt on the part of the late Minis.
let;, to redeem the pledge which they had un-
wargly given to the Irish Roman Cathalics. The
language of the terms on which they agreed to aban-
don
it d hill, was
to
nt
y,./ in
srsaaya ththo al i expresslywin, 8. we have
situationtctueh odiumji rne tswhnsoi cufhs must Ihhbei
this
lbePlaiklien ee4Chta
charge must be shifted from us and thrown upon
Syour Majesty: and also, that when any similar
neasore shalt be brought forward in future, we
may claim all the merit of it, and throw all the
odium of refusal upon your Majesty." His Ma-
jesty had allowed time and opporttinity to 1115 late
Ministers to explain their intentions, and when ti
found how tar they extended, he only insisted that
they would not continue to harass end distress him
on the subjeft. His Majesty's 6`944lset towards all


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descripticnis of Ms neje:h. had been always tang
beieru ; but when it was Iteewn that his coirscieiree
could not consent to the extent of tbe yr... 4.
it kind or dutiful in them tow d4ueLel:tthrero,h;:
sures pressed upon him by his the
te„
wet:ecelitteillvteatiintnielleeeti'e4;
chit whenever the Crithefic (Nevins, • Shittli he
tsbhur
epo
npl ►
oti t
dw
oi
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i;tcWha
natrdhdt,,
hianttfiFijipycntic
odium of. 'tithing the Cetholic Petition uponhlejesty ? He was contideet that whenever the Ice
Ministers those to wfalte thee: uppeel to the Pahl.:,
that Holier would all s be ready to brae al spc”,l
on behalf of the Ruse's P.er la.ive. When the
House is told that great interests, as well 4% went.,
are required in the Admiaistraim of its • country,
what was 'o be understooe by this, but that the an
tocracy were to interfere and dictate to tee gi •..
whom he was to choose for his Ministers? l'he
ridge which had heen treed in the House relative te
rle
conduCt to be pursued bythe present loieisters tows, rah
Ireland. was not fit to go nu, to that country, W, v
was it to he supposed that Mr sisters would coachr
themselves so as not It) promote the welfare of he.
lend ? He deprecated those terrihle prophecies
Persons who make such ohlitic4l prophecies. fie
rally meant to aft so as to fuifil these [geisha .ies.
The
ou present question came le this—will pee or will y not, support t;.e came
of the Olen
against in Aristocracy N e de attempt to dietee
to H s Majesty and the Country? On this subject
he must say, that His Mejeety's reign had b-ee a
reign of concession to the Ca:belies. He ertainly
agreed, that if any measure could be adopted to
amalgamate all the energies of the country, without
regard to scuffs an.l religious persuisions, he would
give it his steppers; but this was not now the ques-
tion ; which was simply whether the y were calk;
upon to resist the undue att.'s:ars of tee late Mi-
nisters to stigmatize the King's c indudt towards
them, although that constuft 1 roceeded upon consti-
entire', and plb!ic grounds ?
Mr. CURWEN defended the crush& of the late
Ministers. it valid not be supaosed Oen they
wo 4.1 hive brought forward the measure they (lid,
unless they judged that there was a strong necessity fur it. Without a system of coneiliation towards
the Irish Catholics, he was afraid that divisions would enesinue in that c' uniry. In the late
trinseetion, he could not but fear that His Majesty
Ise) been ill advised; a. d therefore, thinking as he
did, he would support the original motion.
Mr. TUFNELL thought, that the recent
change in Administration could not fail to make a
deep impression on our allies abroad, and ales to
inspire our enemies with hope ; and that at a titre
when a system of cooperation with foreign powers
Was most desirable. He was afraide that the worst
e.Tells might be expeCted to rvsulr from the impree.
si that the Councils of this country were of a
fluSueting nature. Little confidence, I e belies
in the per manence of the Nex Ministers, could le
placed, either abroad or in this country. It an
invasion should be attempted by the enemy, whet
au encouragement would be afforded them, from
knowing that one-fifth of the pnpoletinn were do.
barred from a participation of the privileges
enjoyed by the rest of the inhabiiaets ?
The Hon. Gentlemin, in tracing the whole history
or this country, could not find one insimee of a sr-
, miler pledge to that which kai heed endeeveluree to
be seeded from the r. it-Ministers7 Re Strisl'ed to
know, ho..v so feeble a Government, es the hies nt
had acknowledged itself to he, upon the death of an
august personage (Mr. Pitt), who, from their weak-
nets and imbecility had given up the reels of AS-
-1 ministration, had now become so strong and vigor-
ous, as to stand undaunted at the helm of public af-
fairs ? Was it by their former opposition they had
gathered such strength ? or was it, accieding to a
story he had heard of certain giant., "ho, the of-
tener they were struck to the ground by their anta-
gonist, the strorger they became?
Mr. FULLER—t" Where, Sir, is the absolute
necessity for this question ? The Gentleman has
told you, this is an abstreet eerevien ; hot I
say it is a question between one set of Minis-
ters and another ; it is a question, whether the
King shill cntrinue to have the due power
of exercising his Prerogative, or shall follow the
diftates tr" any set of Ministers he may have, in
what, ver measures they may think proper to pro.
pose Suppose they were to insist upon dissoling
Marv. [`'tare, or any other great constitutivone l
measure? %Vhy then, I say, the King would net
right in answering, " You shall be dismissed from
my service! (Ilia, 4ell-0 and, if you are such
people, that I cennie depend upon your word, why
then I will have your written pledge, that you will
not press me to violate that great and sacred oath I
made nn c mine tetheThrone." But, what is all this
about ? Lord North gave tire Catholics arms. What
was the consequence ? Teti used these arms after-
wards, for the purpnses hfrehollion ; and, for what
I know, are using thorn for the same purpose now.
But, if a man jestles yon in the street, you should
stick up to him (A loud hug& ). They were such
very great Ministers, none were ever like them.
They were fell of nothing hut theories ; and, in-
deed, none were ever hewer paid for such. Bet the
last of these fine theories has been the Abnlire n of
the Slave Trade ( 4 loud cry ehenr / het: / from all
pans of Me Hoerr), and this :hey call a measure of
humanity. But what was it for? It was the meal.
est and meet paltry policy that ever was: And what
has it done? it has lessened the consumption of sue
gar I (A load lose r 4.) •
Here the SPEAKER called the Hon. Oentlee
man t 3 ender.
Mr. FULLER enntirated—" Sir, I say, it is
the most foolish, silly, idle policy that ever teas; it
is letting America here the sale of one hundred
and seventy thousend hogsheads of urger emitted'', ;
and this is what this humane law has Sone for the
country ; and so far frnin it, being a measure of great utility, by the List accounts from the West
Helton it was ihe cause of much dieturbance and
revolt; and I now know, from less Majesty's
present Minister,. that His Majesty was
always
against the measure "
The SPEAKER again informed the Hon. Mem.
ber the course he war theft talsieg was out of order.
Mr. FULLER apologised, end conelueed by
repeating has form.,' objet ration.
Mr. tV. CONYNCeI;AM PLUNKEI'T (At-
torney-Generel of helms 1)--" Mi. Sp.-Aker, I must
confess I fest a tbffiltirce ibis evening is albussiog

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