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PARC A.

Sir C. MONce. in aver;inw tone of voice, in-
quired. we understood, wilt titer the Noble Lord
hall otjtction to lay before th-t !loose, some itd-
ditional documents on the subject of the eqbl,loll
of ?
Lord CASTLERFAGH said, all the documents
connected %%ith the proceedings of 1815 and 1817
Lwd been grunted.
Sir C. Ilutick raid, he believed there was in.
oilier Treaty or instrument, fur the production of
which lie was anxious.

BANK OF ENGLAND CASH PAYMENTS RILL.
Mr. PrEll. said, that when the nal providiog Inc
the resumption of Cash Payments by the Hank of
England was before the [louse, an tion. Grin leman
(Mr. Ether) had moved sill amendment, providing
that on the 1,4 toe Bank shinild have
an option of paling in hnllinn, at a ceilmii
or in the regti'o4 t nil) of the realm. To this amend-
ment an amilidnie,t had since been made by the
!loose of 11..,111.. 'Their Loril•hins hid made au
alteration, mit in the principle it the ['anon/able
C;entlemait's amendment, but nieleg i di respect
to time. 'rite riiither amendment ivy. that,
instead Itf li3iik having the option. trim the
IA of ~lay, 1821, It stiniihl continence Item the
t or May, Is 2.2 —conorrigriltly, the
paying in bullion ‘iontil be ittiveriitive for one
year longer. The Right Ilon. Gentlein.in then
moved—"Th4t the Lords' amendment to tills Rill
be now taken into consideration."

Mr. ELLICE said, he would oat object to this
amend own I, although hr t lin nit ht the con rse lie
had proposed of thus Fortner oceohion, eras piefer-
slily to that adopted by the House of Lords. The
reason lie Still thought so was ilia on which' lie '
orivially proposed the amendment. In the first
piney. as si very long twriod Itad been proposed
by the Committee, before die Bank should re.
turn to payments ill specie, he thought they
ought to hive the power, if they pleased. of
inseitsibly Inking up their owe and Seco poring, mutes.
nod removing dint part of the sy.tem wlni:h must
be first abolished. before they cosil.l ietorn to gene-
rut payment* in specie. The 3111rtidilltilt from the

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Lords acknowledged, se far, that the Principle on
which he acted was correct—and lie was quite pre-
pared to accept even the itinzorlinent they had sent
down, rather than lose the beiietit cif the clause
altogether. There was also a possible rave which lie
meant to provide agaiiost by the amendment. It was
this t—Seppose, in consequence or en undue contrac-
tion of the issues of the Bunk of England, a great
increase of the circulation of the precious metals
took place, the market price of gold might fall be-
low that at which the Bank were to bay in bullion.
If that were the canoe how cool., the public carry
on their transactions T By this Bill the wily pay-
ment allowed was in 13.111 k Maes of ber, of gold—
and it should be recollected, that bars of kohl were
not a legal tender. iudividurls must then take
their money to the Mind, aiid have it coined into
guineas. These would dud their way to the Bank,
the great reservoir, and there they would be locked
np by Act of Parliament ; for, by the Bill,
they could not pew in aortae until a ((insider:llo'e
period hail elapsed. Tkere was number very strong
circumstance connected Svit4 the measure, namely,
that the Bank were not compelled to receive those
iiigots, but the public were obliged to take them.
1.) oiler these cireinn,thoces, the, public, tinder the
Bill as it originally stood, might he deprived of alt
currency. Ile stated this as possible—and that
possibility sliewed, %liar. in proposing the amend-
ment, he was pint 11011111'd by any captious feeling.
This Bill had for its object the greatest alteration
that could be imagined or discussed in this coon-
try—and, in his opinion, if it had been more simple
and open to the cmintion underatanding of persons
interested in its eller:is. there woutd have been a
much greater security that it would operate in the
milliner that was contemplated.
Mr. NIANNING spoke iii a tone of voce so very
low as to be nearly inaudible iii the gallery. We
iiiiilerstoorl him to complain of the Manner in which
the Bank Advance Bill had been hurried through
the Illouire. Observations had been made on the
telidetiry of the Bank unnec . sly to interfere
writ the concerns of the Goverionetit in purchasing
and eilvimcing money on Exchequer Bills. The
practice of the Bank had always been directly the
overrate They minutely and carefully attended to
t:ie dirt ctiona of the Legislature. 111 every Etches
(ier dill, Bill th it viaa passed. a clause was miter!,
ed, rrsirictine tlee extent of purchase to which
they might proc,t,eil, and the uttnoat care was
takeii not to go beyond that parliamentary
license. 'this system of borrowing from the
Baok, for the Itlll/11C service, was lint court-
..l by them. So fir back as the year 1697, he
fupind a reference from the Lords of the Treasury
to the Direr-tots of the Bank, requesting that they
would, " fur the public servtce," snake such an
silvance. In 1701 the Loots Commissioners of the
Treasury called on them for a certain sum—the
Directors answered Imam ttttt usly, " that they were
ready to make an tolvalice at their Lordships' desire,
in furtherance of the irob!ic service, as far as wits
consistent with their aituat t ." He knew not how
they could be blamed in the present day. In 1906-7,
when Lord Grenville and Lord 11. l'etty wet e at
the head of the Administration, a letter was sent by
the Lords Ciositniasionera of the Treasury to the
Court of Doectors, iii which it was staten, " that
it would In. a must material accommodation to the
public service, if the Batik of England would con-
petit to advance 2,000,0001. of Exchequer bills,
owing to ;is accidental delay in voting the Land
and Malt Tax." Kith respect to the clause before
the House, be bail no objection to it. The Bank
of Eliglaiirl bail already «hewn their readiness to
take of their small cotes—but they were prevemed
from proceeding by an Act of Pairliameot—atid,
without another application to the House, and tio.
other Bill, they could not now take up any more
of them until the period specified in the present
measure had arrived.
Mr. PEEL said, he thought the amendment pro-
posed by the Hui'. Gentleman (Nlr. Ellice) was an
improvement to the 11111—mid he, like the Hon.
Gendemait, conceived it was better to take it melt
in its uttered Wale, than to lose it entirely. He was
exceedingly sorry the Bill Minded to by the Hon.
Gentleinait (Mr. M3lllllllO woe not read when he
wits in the House. It had gone through several of
its stages at so late an hour as to preclude debate—
and he thought, if lie hr. light it on at half-past
four it•spould swot it better c:taiice if brink dis-
cussed. Ile conceived it was tight that Parliament,
as was provided by the Bill, should hirer cogni-
zance of the amount of all Exchequer bills
purchased by the Bank in the market, as well as
of thole on which they had made advances. The
Report of the Committee, and various papers laid
before Pailiameid, proved that they ought to be
possessed of this knowledge. It would be seen. by
reference to these documents. that the amount of
Exchequer bids purchased by the Bank greatly
exceeded the quaintly taken up on account of ac-
tual advance,. In 1815, for Mat:mere there were
35,000,0001. of Exchequer hills outstanding. Of
throe 9 or 10,000,000/. only were i•snerl on actual
edvances, while 25 or 26,000,000/. were issued in
consequence of purchase* by the Bank. Now,
according to the old tootle, the vipers laid on the
table of the [house would only mention the iiine or
10,000,000/. issued by way of advance—but, by the
riew provision, the 23 or 26,000,0001. purchased
must also be reported—and thus ll'arlimitent
as they ought to be, apprised of the debt. due to the
hook.

After a few word. from Mr. J. P. GRANT. Mr.
Pnancr, and Mr. iltisKtssuN, the motion Was
114irtd to.
COMMITTEE or SUPPLY—ARMY EXTRAORDI-
NARIES—PO(IR CLERGY, &c.
Thr CHANCELLOR of site ExcittAu um moved--
" Thai the House do resolve itself into a Committee of
Sand)."
Übe Right Hon. Gentleman then moved—
', roll's documents connected with Site Army Ea-
traurdinsens, ibC referred to the Comimttee "—Agreed to.
'rise CUA wt:ELLoft of the Excils.QuEft, in the
C tire, proposed that • slid' nut exceeding
1.e00,0001. he granted to defray the extraordinary
expenses of the army of Great Britain fur the year
1819.
Colonel DA•Ig9 said, that the amount of the toi-
litary estimates ler exceeded that *loch it ought to
be. He then reviewed the amount estimated fur the
staff of lielantl, and for the garrisons of Gibraltar,
Guernsey, stud other places, and complained that
the sums charged under the several item% greatly
exceeded what he thought would be sufficient for

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every necessary purpose. Ile concluded by giving
notice, that early next Session be would move for
the appointment of a Select Committee, to inquire
into the military expenditure of the country.
Lord PALMERSTON stated, that the Irish staff
establishment had been under the consideration of

Gave Amen?, and he was happy to state that the
Irish *toff was now reduced from seven General

Officers to four, with corresponding reductions in
the tumor appointments. He could not promlt-

any reduction in the Military College, unless a con-
tinuance of peace should Justify an alteration in
the departments of that establishment, and unless
it should, from experience, appear that there were
more cadets Omit there ware mans for filling up

commissions, considering the claims of the
half-
pay list, and the supplies from other resources. lie
repelled the general insinuations which had been
thrown out against the military expenditure, and
challenged any Hon. Member to produce a specilf:
instance where profusion was mantles'.
Colonel Davies hoped, that as the Noble Lord
was so ready to go into details, he shoefl not 110,1
in hint, next Session, en opponent to ills
the object of which was, to remedy abuses itrLerc
they were found to exist.
Mr. fluste expressed his regret that the Noble
Lord held out no prospect of redivdinii i,, the ex-
penditure of the Military College. Ile was asto-
nished at this avowal of the neces-ity n 1 ke,ping up
thirty-seven Professors for a sclan.l #.l 300 boy,.
Surely it would not be said that the education gveit
in that establishment was better than th rt given to
the boys reared for the engineer owl artillery
partments. Three hundred boys were reared at
Woolwich College, and the entire expense did not
I exceed 9,0001. yearly. The honourable Member
then repeated the observations he had made on a
former night tespecting the extravagant expendi-
ture for the maintenance of the colonial garrison..
lie also complained of the item of 2.48,746/. for ti,e
extraordinary pay, clothing, and allowances to toe
forces in India, and also to the di,bursement of
245,901. tinder the head of military extrarnib.
navies. These items, as well as the heads of ex-
pense for Bermuda, and the other Islands, oug t
to be scrupulously examined by the house. lie
thought the East India Company were bound to
pay the extraordinary and other expenses of
army serving in India. He then observed, th it 11:v
chief complaint was i‘gainst the niode of arratigin4
anil making tip this branch of the accounts of the
ittil)l.:.! expenditure ; instead of each head of ac-
count being complete respecting Its particular ex-
penditure, and each colony shelving the total
amount of its expense, the items were scattered over
the surface of a general account, so as to present a
complete delusion as to their meaning, atil render
it impossible to understand them intelligibly. lie
could not understand why Sir Ralph Woodford
should be allowed 3,5001. for the purchase of cer-
tain buildings in Trinidad ; he knew that the re-
venues of that Island were abundant, and he was
I at a loss to conceive why they were not adequate to
the internal expenditure. Why was 39,961/.
charged for clothing, under the head of army extra-
ordinaries ? He would again repeat, that the sc.
counts should not be intermixed one with the other,
hut that each department should thew its own ex-
penditure in a complete form, under a particular
head.

Mr. Ilositrsabte did not think the Hon. Gentle.
111:411 took a very accurate view of the nature of those
accounts. Iu his observations, lie appeared to me
lip what were matters of estimate with items of
oc;:oulit, and to overlook the real fact, that the sums
now charged were in explanation of the account of
an expenditure by virtue of a vote of credit. Ile
(Mr. Iluskisson) declared, that every shilling of the
several items in this branch of expenditure W:l%
strictly and rigidly accounted for, and that so far
from the sums bring mixed up so as to create a de-
lusion, they were regularly examined and passed by
the auditors of public accounts, and the comp-
trollers of army expenditure. The present was the
regular accomit from year to year to expluiri
the expenditure timber the vote of credit.—
Ile demcd that any agent for the Colonies, or for
any of the departments, could prefit by any pub-
lic balances. For his part, no mail could gainsay
him, when lie said that in his department (Ceylon)
he never yet profited by any such circumstance; if
any men could prove he had done so, lie was ready
to be consigned to infamy. respect to the
control over the general expenditure abroad, he
had only to state, that the warrant or 1;63, which
was renewed ill 1791, and at the late peace, was re-
gularly transmitted and enforced. lii time of war
it woo obvious that Governors or Commanders of
Colonies must be allowed, according to the emer-
gencies of the service, a discretionary expenditure;
but this discretion was not suffered to continue in
time of peace, and no expenditure nus allowed
except that which was preceded by nit estimate,
and sanctioned by the authorities at home. For
every expenditure the parties inctirriog it were
held strictly responsible, and the warrant to w bleb
he alluded was rigidly enforced. The exp,use fur
clothing, under the head of extraordinaile,. wet./
I particularly out of the increased price of cm...illy
accoutrements, chiefly of the increase in the price
of leather, and the allowance to Colonels of cavalry
regiments. of 15 per cent. over the regular assign-
memo. There was lin reason, he repeated, fur as-
serting that the accounts were irregularly made up,
or that the expenditure was improvident.
Lord PALMERSTON repeated that the preset t
items of account were made up in the usual man-
tiers and that the reason why some of them did 'lot
appear in the former estimate was, that they hint
nut been transmitted in time to be so introduced.
With respect to the establishment at the Military
College, the Professors were only thirty in num-
ber, instead of thirty-six, and the compariscit
made between this establishment and the others
alluded to by the Hon. Member, was not borne out
by die fact —(Hear.)
Mr. flume and Mr. Hvactssox mutually ex-
plained.
'lite CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER stated,
that as to the Military expenditure iu tiidia, it ap-
prated in the accounts merely fur the sake of caw-
jog regularly into the public charges as x matter
of record. It was, however, ultimately charged tit
the Eist India Company, between vehoin and ilitt
Gower iiiii rut a running account vies kept.
Mr. Hums wished that this account between the
i Company and the Cievernaitat was trot guttered to

go on in the pr?sent manner. It ought not to Ice
coffered to remain unsettled.
Mr. CHARLES Lox°, also staled, that the ac-
counts were made up in the usual manner. If the
11.. n. Member wanted any details, let him call for
41,m, and they should immediately be produced.
Ile c..iidervined general insinuations when it was in
iLe power of the individual to particularise his
thing.,, and call far specific information. The
arrant respecting the control over Governors
abroad, lie repeated, was strictly enforced.
Mr. GoutAttnt• corroborated the statement that
the accounts were 'wade up in the usual molter.
Mr. !nevem:4soN ieroircil seine explanation
respecting the ikon of 73.1,097/. under the head of
coonnisiuriat expense. at Lisbon. lie also wished
in know whether the Audit-office for Conunissariat
,ercaosits in Liebon had been found to answer the
purpose intended ?
The CHANCELLOR of the rietteuurn replied,
that in tl.e par ktular sum alluded to, was included
the litridation of outstanding clr on the Com-
missinnit Depact owed. With respect to the Amid
Establishment sit I..irbon, it had been of considera-
ble benefit—it had been in several ways productive
of great I Met.
The Itesolution wns then agreed tn.
The Cnsuccl.l.an of the EXCHEQUER then
snorer!—et That • aunt not exceeding 50,000/. be
granted to defray the Army Extraordinaries fur
lfrland in the present yrar."—Agreed to.
The CNA REELtCHI Of the EXCHEQUER explained,
ilia the Resolution he was about to propose was for
s grint of 1,000,0001 being part of the 2,000,0001.
i.ir the exiwines of the fortifications in the 1.,.w
Countries. It was necessary that the grant should
p through m.
Supply,
cud re-
trier the Winetiosi of Parliament, though the ex-
pense did lint fall upon this country, but was paid
oor of the French contribution.

Mr. Hums wished to know. whether the whole
r the expenie had been defrayed by the French
Coverhment. or whether any pert would retuaiu to
he paid by Grist Britain ? •
The oethe EXCHEQUER replied,
flint no pint would fall upon this country.
lie repeated his aspire, in reply to • question
Com Mr. IlUTtinillow.'and lidded, that no rd.
eunees were mode daring the work by this country.
Pirelli during -the intermediate insistment• of the
French anteroment. lie added. that iu 1814 this
country had no claims on. the FrtuelsZottemesent,
but that these Certifications were et she time com-
menced fur • common object in conjunctisq with
other rowers. Cud that by a subsequent arrange-
turn! limner became liable to the expense.

The itelotnitou Wm agreed to, as well as one ter
granting 1.9.000/. for Queen Anne's Beauty.
On the Resolution that le.oool. be given I+o
augment the Kit 11l fur the maintenance of the poor
clergy in Scotland—
Mr. 'limn wished to know whether regular
return+ were wade rt +pectins the application of this
+u tit

The CRWIIcXLIont of Ibe Epinnwza replied,
that he was not aware of his being in powwow, of
any detriment to sherry the precise application of
this money. but it was transmitted to the Gemmel
Synod of the Kirk of Scotland, by whom it Was
trvularlr appropriated.
The Resolution was agrecel to.
On the motion of Mr. A RBUTHNOT, 48 9(141. was
*greed to, in pay the irt eeeee t for three years. and
tritortysnee day. if 300,000/. granted to the Portia-
/neer Gayrriiineut in 1815. and for which interest
to he paid Distil the principal was dirthargr d.
A sum of £50971. was *greed to, to make up
the deficit of • the-fee fond fur IS i 9, suit also
15.0001. to defray the expenses of the improvements
esirryiirg on between Bangor Ferry and Church
lltidge,. its North Woks, and 12,5001. for the iin-
prowernent r.f Holyhead Harborer.
On the Rrsolution that 14,3001. he granted fur
the improvement of the Harbour of Lyme—
flc3lx said. this tote was altogether unne-
cessary for general purposes, and he could may
ottrilrote the expenditure of so much money on the
Cobb of Lyme Regis to the influence of local in-
terest*. He was confitleut that if it had been ex-
printed nu improving the harbour of Weymouth,
our trash' *mil shipping would have reaped infinitely
mole advantage. _ _

Mr. AntrittNoT contended fur the propriety
r.r the grant.
Sir JOSvlin YORKE observed the present was
rather a nautical question. For his !parr, he was
convinced that the Cobb of Lyme was a putt of rely
considerable importance.
Me: ARM/711110T assured the lion. Gentleman
(Mr. flUme) that the vote was proposed in conse-
quence of the express recommeinlation of a Com-
mittee. and not iu subservience to any private or
Ice.' Interests.

Al►. W. WILLIAMS (Member foe Weyrotrutll
said, that a greater jeb had never been undertaken
in the canutty. He was one of these who thought
,brat if the sweiti which had been laid out on Lyme
Jtegis bad been employed in improving the her.
humor of Weymouth—lA lotr.o)—there would have
4►eto a most vtlneble return). lle wa• persuaded
.that if the sounding• of l'oriland Road Here taken,
an that Allivi might shelter themselves there, many
a lost te•eel would have been saved.

fir Jc.s. YouttE said, it was unnecessary to en-
large on the goodness of Portland Road, as it was
email" known already.—(Hear.)—lt was en
good, that it did not require the expenditure of
wry money. Hut he was sure that the Cobb of
Lyme. d innyerly constructed, would afford a
v4riable shelter to the roasting trade of the country.
Mr. WILLIAMS said he knew of many vessels
asiog been wrti keel in Westland Bay, which
t Amity would have been avoided had they made
fur Portland 11.0.1 d. _ .

M. IlumE nod S.r J. Y oaKE made tome further
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tiff G. COCKDODD insisted an the utility of the
Cutili'of I.Ymi; in uifOrding protection to small
tstida9‘ verselo.
A Idrimait WOOD said be had frequently heard
the wink in question spoken of as a complete job.
Tire vote was.t)tett agreed to.
The folinsing wails were then made:
A auto mot izeiwiliag.l,oool. fur the Board of Agriculture,
fko. the .ear DitlD-
A sostn'ond rireedlng 284000 f. fur defraying the expense of
rePaltine Ihelts6itiehToils uu the coast Ones, for the
Cry. aura remota from Mr. Arbuthemt, Mr.
Mt. f;titifoncnitd Mr. Marryatt.
A I.lllls out elect:ding 1,173 i. am superannuation allowance

compensariae le Arles, Alley sad r.iestd
two of his Majesty's snpriannoi.tee Consuls.
IRISH MISCELLANEOUS SEIIVICES.
Mr. C. Gas NT their rose to move the Irish Mis-
c.ellanerino Services. A •consideralite proportion of
the Puma which it would be his duty to propo*. to
the Committee were for charitable purposes. Part
of these were to go to the support of institution,
established fur the relief of distress. Ile was aware
that doubts lid been expressed one former occa.
PIM Or the propriety of looking thew, 1'.i&i1'11,44.
tary donations. It certainly was tillrOrl tonal., in
some respects, that the necessity of them should
ever have heen fell, from the tendency of smolt
foundations to attract a great decd of local distress,
and to destroy that principle of nolenentletice Hod
'chance on their owl' Exertions, which it was 60 111 Ilt
the interest of the (Nmbs. to ;MIMI!! the
lower orders. The institutions, howelor, wore of
ancient date, and all dist G weriiineitt raiild now
do was to control their expenditure, tool separate
their mlysiituges loom their lileglllVellletirt 6. In
these observations lie did not I,t °now the
slightest imputations no the lowlier, these cha-
rities. Ile now liegi:tril to refer to smother ilescrip.
lion of chary able Prate-?snit Char-
ter tehools i.f Ireland. The llonse ors :mare that
Parliament had aitimally voted Loge, sums for die
suop•iit of these schools. The grant of last yt'ilr
had Broil 38,000 f. ; hat lie was happy to ...Ay.
means had been f I for reducing it to 240001.
fur the Pre,elit. He hail the sistisfietion to say,
th it the mode of conducting these establishment,
It.il been of late materially sinpooved, and it was
due to the Reverend Gentlemen itstrii•teil with
the soperinti wiener cif them, to state, that they ex-
erted ilitiniielves with great industry and zeal in
ad-
%%toeing their objects, and managing their funds
with economy.
1 lie Right /Inn. Gentleman then mooed...

" That 11 hi the PVinion of this COVIIIIIiiieft, that a ism
not taceetiag 24.000/. be waisted sugar& defraying the
expeme of stew o ' g the PrOlesslgUt Charter Schools of
Ireland for the year 1819."

The quiatinn having been

Sir H. PARNELL -said. it appeared, tram the
printed estimate-, that it was now proposed to vote
• sum of about two hundred thonsond pleundr fur
the Dublin Society, and !Animal other iustitutions
in Ireland—which, considering the depressed aloe
of our finances, he thoughtim utireamiilible tiro-
position. But lie hoped the time was now come
when Parliament would go on from year to year
making every practicable reduction in the amount
of the items of that large sum. With respect to
the charter schools in iiartiiular. he anticipated
the period when they should be supported. by their
own funds alone, amounting as they did, to above
9,0001. a year, without any assistance from Parlor-
mein. He should most cordially agree, however,
that the whale of the surplus at present voted by
Parliament. should still he bestowed. and turned
into other channels for promoting the education of
the poor. 'rhe Hon. Baronet then commented on
the unreasonable expenses of the House of Indus-
try. The whole sum appropriated to it was not
much above 30,000/., and of this no less than
5,0001. a-year was bestowed on afirert. There
were five governors, with salaries of 5001. a-year
rich, and four physicians, alm with salaries. The
Female Orphan-house had a chaplain in 1810, at a
salary of 30/. a-year, but that was advanced stnce—
first, to 1001. and then to 150/. per 011110111. The
1100. 13.1'011,4 proceeded to animadvert nn the ex-
tent of the sulaties allowed by the Dublin rod the
Farming Societies to tin it respective officers, and
yxpierotal Inc ristitiClloll, that by a rigid ..operni.
tendency consiikrahle bliving% might be effected in
tlicee i.sti

Sir G. HILT. said, that attention of the A red'.
hishops and Bishops had been particularly directed
to an improvement iii the management of chatter
schools during the last three years. It was an in-
stitution extending 11i bensfits to every county in
Ireland. The lion. Baronet then colored on the
atitoprily mid utility of the system, and stated that
ite tutore the isio,t promising of the echolurs were
to be rr kcied as teachers for the other schools of
Ireland. lie could not subscribe to the opinion
that the allowances to the charter schools el Id be
reduced to their OWII original funds; on the con-
trary, he hoped they would be continued on their
present scale.
Mr. ItOME said, that as much had been effected
in Scotland by private cootributions of three or
four thousand a year, as loot 1)0.4.11 door is Ireland
by near ten times that sum. What had hero the
effect of the great expenditure in the latter country ?
Educating one thousand children. Ile cootroded
that with the same funds mid the new syetein of edu-
cation, he could have instructed 360,000 children.
Ile asked, was it not painful to ,husk that a eons
was lavished on about two thousand children, which
if properly applied would be fully sufficient to
educate the entire or the poor children in Ireland.
Sir GenttnE Flst.t, said, that the mariner in
which the schools in Ireland are coollort,l has
been such as had been established fur the last 100
years.
Mr. MIERCROMDY said, the Parliament was now
about to grant large sums for public rtlocalool,
and it was their ditty to take care that that immey
should lie properly applied. The groestion was tint
whether schools in Ireland were plow cooducted ou
the same principle its they were one hundred years
ago, lent it was whether they should now pursue
that course which appeared the finest bent•ficial. He
thfilight a certain number of eillliirVil Might be
clothed and educated for the purpose of mak-
ing them teachers ; but lie could trot but coo-
eider it a must unwise and injurious application
of the public money to bestow on the clothing, mail.-
temirice,iriol education of 100 children, a sum which
would be sollicieut for the education of four Ihou•

sand. It he said, a initial end unjust eelec.
and could tend but little to the piddle besirfit.
Ile hoped the Right (lon. Gentleman (NIG Graiit),
for whose el-win:ter and opiinoros he had the highest
respect, nod who stood justly high in the affection
and coolitlepee or 11W Irish people, would look

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lido this soltject. The fion. Gentleman next
adverted t.) the stint of 62,000/. expended for the
last tot 3ears on charitable buildings, whiblt he
could not but cAlsitler as a wasteful expenditure of
the public money.
After a few words front the CUANCEI.I.OR of the

EXCIIIQUI.R. the Resolutiou was agreed to.
k GRANT next proposed a Mao Julian, that a

of 32,0001. be gra,ited fur the A )11.in ;01
oistrintisCitildren iss Ireland.
ilr. ABF.::,101161, ssnl, he ohterverl that Ire
tio flirt, live Koveriturs, at 11 salary of
500/. earl', over this inptitntion.
Mr. (;rt t %yr said that these duties were grand'
increased in consequence or the progress of the
-fever.

Mr. A DERCRONIRY thotight thst Iwo governor*
WORM be (rite ottfiieienr. The represses of offi-
cers for this institsition reduced the awn granted
from 30,000/. to 25,000/.
Mr. HUME said, then the wilary of the pliviicialis
was now 182/. each, piecoirly the some saline Ono
'they had aie IST). There was tin inliiiotom or thy.
kind it) Great llntair that fool five governors, low
ever more than one. (;ou*irlrrio2 those govv•roota
as most mnieceisary ii ii expensive, he won ILI wish
to see. the lumber re-deiced to two, and he mink!
therefore move "that nistrad of Ihr aunt of 32 000/.
g awn or 30,:t01t. mo_rho hue tlii‘tittiteti."
Mr. GRANT MA, that the duties of chose officers
were cettatilly considerahle ; that with respect to
the salary of the physician*, it Was not tocieased,
hot other Irliyairiatta were ohlitred 10 be in
doriog the rnge•tri the fever. lie would cert•einle
most strictly inquire into the matter, mid if he
f. i iii that the governors be reduced, lie
would certainly propose that measure.
Mr. I 'Malt said, that after the declaration of a e
!tight lion. Gentleman, hr would withdraw the
amendment ; and it was accordingly withdraw it.
tin (1. !JILL SAW, that the gov,recus devoted
all their tome Ilntl setteritioli to the limitless of the
institution—these they smelly attended to its *interim'
irrang-rnents, even to the locking of thr gates.
Colonel DAVIES Oil lie understood thee
were ell • flieist:rig der gy nen ; now it' they drentril
their exclusive: atTe"olie., tie the caneertee of the iii-
'dilution. they 'lll,Ol of course, its clergy Well, eel-
tirrlv wider, the suet II e. 1.. profession.
Mr. GootioN said, he ,bonnet and peps,.
rate charger for stew • • . is, and servants;
he did not therrior. t. aof .a . a. orerssary fur the
movement to iitter•ci u• of the laths awl
the openiiiic of el r hoped the Ilimse
would evrionsly is titer to prevent the undue ex-
penditure of the ileilrl al •v io !related.
. After a few.,.lntrva from Mr. JOUN PAR.
SONS, liurcniNSON. Ulric! CAIIII4IIAPTOS,
the Resolution /Os ti uses
The oral o
ma for the attPretves of Ike Rielisamsd Lunatic Asylum.
9,200/ fur Mtn resin% queirty.
1.100/ fur the Marin- S ,ei, ry
2.6001 for Ow F. m4l,
8,0110/ for the 1,, k II :spit vl
3.300/ far the I%,sicin
1,400 r. fur Solo,. nv's liosph al.
9.05/./. for site Romig e-itholie Nesinary.
2,4414. fur the Sorrily far Viwouitteintocina Vice.
1001 fur lime Green Cost Ilospiuil, C,rk.
'2,400/ for the Cook Institution
5,5382 for the Educatior of the Poor in Ireland.
iiiiswer to all ll,nn. Alember,
Mr. GRANT said. this sum was for the education
obi:- of the Protestant awl Catholic children.
20,n00t. for ilie 0141 Contingencies in Ireland.
7,8001. for the C,minissioners appointed to inquire into
the Cos of the Courts of Dustier in Ireland.
32,000/. fur ihr lloaral of Wolk,.
3.0001. in aid of Schools supported by Voluntary COntri-
bunny%
17,0001. for making good a sum advanced out of the Civil
List, for renotheration of the Commissioners of Courts of
Jastire in Ireland fur Iwo sears.
Mr. GRANT took occannie to bear t-stiotnity to
the talents slid diligence of the Commissioners, in
which Sir HENRY PARNELL conenrred.
60,6841. for printing, 1:e. fir the &Mood Offices.
9,892/. fur the txprnsrs of printing Mort mullions.
51r. Hu-row:80N suit, this was precisely the
soot gratitett last year. lie dill not eitielrrstniol
bow it wis man •geil, th it the Paine sum 1.1,0u1d be
grail:AA, obeli the IHlVinev% MOM lisvr ea, jell,
Mr. Gori DON mid that this was, lie liltifierSteinil,
kind of remuneration given to the Government
loess in He hoped that there would lie
silo objection to lay before the lineise a return of tile
sours paid for printing proclamations, the number
of proclamation., printed, and the names of the
papers in which they appeared.
Mr. GRANT said. that similar grants had been
made fur a 1111111hee 01.)eoe.„
Mr. GORDON —" Am I to understand dud these
atoms are paid to a certain part of the press of be-
hind, to the exclusion of the independent press ?"
Mr. BANICES defeuded the principle of Govern-
ment patronising that part of the press whole sup-
ports their measures, in opposition to the press
which would oppose all established amertiments.
Mr. Hums proteeteil against the (Lori.r of the
Hon. Gentleman. He contended, that the paper
which has the greatest circulation should have the
proclamations of the Government. 'li was the
legitimate principle—any other was a principle of
favouritism arid brilierv.
Mr. C. H. litrrcitiNsON paid, " S;r, I ethipct to
this grant ; and I du pledge myself to the I tight
Flom Gentleman, that if he will lint take the elaulde
of examining into the mailer he will not pi otiose it
the ensuing year." As to the observations which
had been made, most unfairly mode, on the inde-
pendent press of !ideal, he would say, that • -
Mg the proclamations was tin proof of the loyalty
of the press. Ile had heard similar reports as those
stated by an Mon. Cent. below trim (Mr. Gordon),
that those proclamations were given to certain move
per 4 in Ireland as exclusive marks of favour—in
fact sis bribes. lie reread tint but condemn such a
practice. as unconstitutional airel improper. As to
the doctrine of the Honourable Gentleman (Mr.
Minikes), which would go to prove that Gower*.
Ilteot mode a fair use of their loutuosolge by
bribing the press, he would only say, that it
was the first tune he heard that doctrioe broaclitcl
within the walls of Parliament, nod he sincerely
hoped it might he the last. AS In the indepesidesit
press or Ireland, tl i gls it did Dot possess the
favours of Government, it held priociples tut least as
pure and as loyal as that portion of the press which
enjoyed those favour—prieiciples the more truly
loyal, btcaose they were sonnet and constitutional,
and hecanse they were devoted to the interests anti
laterite* or Ireland. it was. he said, pandit, to
use the word, hut be could nut sit down without
I pronouncing his condeenuattun of the doctrines of
the lion. lentleman.
Mr. I.IANKce repialited. Ile did nrit ray that
any part of the ',ulnae money should hr wasted on
the press, hut that the lair potrossege of GOVerli-
mein el Id be given to that pox of the press
which supports Its measures.

;qr. r. PALmrr, uid not 1:11,,, ibat try oil or
eie !while press was inimicdi to established Govern.
tnents.—(A Mv
,atls from the Illinigterial
repeated the itotertton. The press mdeed was op-
'1)(1..0 In the shoves or the Government—to those
altn,,es which called for reforw—but certdmly not
to the Government itself.

The Re.noltilints w.ir then agreed to.
The Next grnists *err-
-1.50(It Gir pristine for the went' Magistrates the Statutes
of the Unit ei King lem.
t.1.700f for expenses of Criminal Prnarroinno in Ireland.
-SAM or the support alie Synod of Clater.
1.740(. (or salaries int:cry Officers,.

h.(100/. for the works of Dunmore ILirhotst.
11.700/ tor liovrth llArbour. •
200 t. for the lotihlionr, ese. Of Girlie Limoges.
19.00'1/ to the Corrntiononers of the born Manoisetory,
11.001)/ to the tonosits<ooters of %Vole Streets in Dublin.
7.", flan/ f,,r (he Harr*lc Deportment.
Mr. llt'x6 enul, th,st he fotinti n sttm of I 4,000!.
for ttArrnek tre.►rts' salaries, and for coottogen-
.otelt iv; ensl,, candles, Ike. &c. tun tint:
to t!,0111.1/. Thus, it stint of 4-2,0001. w" ex-
iteoded ni the letrrark tonstets Moue.
Mr. (i ftl NT that the system, he knew,
wanted to lie ►educed to a certain scale.

Some other momal grants were then propn•ed end
agreed to, when tlott Sproker te&litned the Uhair,
twit

•
Mr. NEW MAN said, that the attention of the
lititists could siot he too Strictly celled to thii,e ettor-
111011s grout+ to winch Members were call. on to
OgreY, witlicut previous itopory or prepirttill.l—at
a time when they were called on to woe iinee
nul-
Itous of new taxes, they were calk-ii nn, %111,,,nt no-
tice mid without inquiry, to assent in these enrol moos
giant,. Ile suggested that these 11-solittiolis
lie printed, and pot in the hainis of Nlritib-rs be-
fore I hev were reported.
Mr. RASHES cons;ilered thst this would be de-
parting from the rules of the lionise.
Mr. W. SMITH followed on the same side with
Mr. NEWMAN.

The SpEAKER rtiggeated, that if the trtimate.,
which colitatiled the *iilisfatiee eif the
were printed, it would uflord ull ireeesbdiry incur-
wirstims.

Mr. Rflocatts then bron;:lit up the Report,
winch was ru tiered to be lititrii into further con-
sitterution ou Monday.—The estimates were ordered
to be printed.
Mr. GORDON moved for no account of the Go-
vernors of trie flouse of Industry its Dublin, their
salaries and professions, and by whose recontmeinhos
films they were appointed ; also, the names 0r the
Governors who have retired on pensions, on what
grounds, and by whose authority those pension*
were grauted.—.Agreed tn.
The Bonne resolved itself into a Committee on the
Churches' Building Ansesidnient Bill.
In the Committee a number of verbal niterli:ena were
mite in the claims. The Report was then setriverl, and
ordered to be taken into farther consideration un Tuesday
next.

The Common Recoveries Bill went through a Committee
—lO he read the third lime an Monday next.
Mr. HOT,IFORD brought in a Bill Inc the better regulation
of the Penitentiary Douse at Nfiltiatik.—Read the first—to
hr read the second time on Monday.
Mr. ARBUTHNOT brought iu a Dill for the better regiila-
lion of the African Company.—Read the first—to be read
the second lime on Tuesday.
Mr. Dome moved fur a return of the application of the
grata of public money for the relief of Ike 111111 r clergy of
Scotland in the last year.—Ordrril.
Tbe oilier Orders of the Day were then disposed iit; and,
at HALF PA.T ONC O'CLUCR, the Ilouie 041jourlied to
Monday next.

MINORITY
AG.SI%ST THE AIALT TAX, THIRD READING, JUNE 25.

—wow—
flarbam, J. F. Dunrannun, Vie. Newton, W.
Ilaroard, Vise. Ebrington, Vp.r. Ousloiv, A.
Harnett, J. Ellicr, Edward O'Callaghan, J.
Becher, W. %V. Fame, John Palmer, C. F.
Bernal, R. Farrow', Rohl. Pares, Thomas
Ilcuyuii, B. Fits:crab', Right Parnell, Sir H.
Itirch. Joe. Hon. M. Phillip., C. M.
Brand, Hon. T. Cllllll, J. P. Powlett, Hon. W.
Itriiiighani, H. Gordon, R. Price, Robert
Burdett. Sir F. Griffiths, J. W. Hobart+, A.
Ity tag, G. Gooch, T. S. Roharts, W. T.
Burton, T. F. Harvey, D. W. Rowley, Sir W.
Hit rrell, W. Hey :ate, A ldei into Smith, John
Crawley, Sam. Hume, Jos. Smith, W.
Calera( t, John Hutehinson, Hun. Smith, Hon. R.
Calvert, N. C. H. Wharton, John
Calvert, C. Lamb, Hon. G, Wilson, Sir R.
Cavendish, Lord G. Lefevre, C. S. %Viol( house, Ed.
Colfiii, Sir T. Lemon, Sir %V. Wow), A Iderin.in
Colborne, N. R. Mow*, S;1- C.
Concannon, Lorin• Moore, Peter TELLER!.
De Ccrispiirny,SirW. Neville, Hon. R. Ord, W.
Davies, T. H. Newman, R. W. Wcsitio, C. C.
Denison, W. North, Dudley

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CHILE.
TO THE EDITOR OP THE BRITISH PRESS.

St:t—ln as much as public faith is interested ir
the subject of this letter, 1 hope you will have the
goodness to insert it in your intim:ll.
" I have observed in the Maryland Censor, of the 23.1 of
September, 1818, a Proclamation by Laos Autry, which en-
filade@ him ' Commanoler.in•Chief of ilva Forces de.tined
to act against New Granada, in the name of the Coodetle-
raaeol Republic/ of Buenos Aires anal Chile.' In the first
place, it colorist to be known Ih-t Chile and D 11•110.1 Anna
are not Itcpublies so confederated, loot two Slates abso-
lutely independent, arid Without any toiler bowl than that
which they imposed on thenisrlves by the Treaty of the
sth of February, in order to aid the inhabitants of Porn
against the Government of Spain. In the stewed place.
Chile has nut intrusted forces of nny description to Luis
Autry, nor to any other man, fur the purpose of acting
agsiost New Granada neither s Aury at presiut,
nor hes he ever been an officer of the State of Chile. In
the third place, Chile has nut hitherto authorised any pea.
sun to assume the denomination widely appears in that Pro-
clamation. Lastly, the polity of the Covernment of Chile
is nittrly opposed to the establishment of those ennalas,
who, tinder the pretext of muleafing the Spaniards, may
commit outrages against other Co-ors. Chile haa only a wer.
regeboted national marine, :food Luis Aury is not among the
ontrober of the mariner, of Chile.

" The author of that Proclamation has assuredly barn
guilty of an unwarranted aounimption of authority, from the
Gov, rnment of Chile, to act apinat New Granada. That
(;.,verntnent wi!lt in a short time, poitilicfy falsify the Foup•
posed commu,smio of Aury. In the rucomo.hiki, 1, wh,.„
until the :Intlo of October lac I. held the Miiiißtry or
(;rare cold .fustier, end of Piorei:;ro Affairs, in iloßt Stat..,
eau, ticd ought tu glee my asemance, that Irtnirrer is
staled in ihni Prnernmation reorird In he Goren,.
men, of Chile is false ; And I make chi. declwratuon both to
vindicate that Governor:rot in public opinion, and to prt vent
the evil, which may accrue In some individuals of other
nations from so Grier • atatemcnt.

" 1 am, Sir, yn,tr nhot;ient Servant,
" ANTONIO JOSE DE YRISAREI.
" 6C, Baker stud, Portman scram,

June tl, 1919•"

To the EDITOR if The BRITISH PRESS.

Girt-11 trust it will have been with fee'ing• of
surprise and sli.gust that most people have rst‘..t, iu
a 51ersinig Paper of the 17th instant, a series of
olpervations, entirrly destitute of cum nu II tl • e
and decency, on the capture of Porto Bello, alai
of the I,tiomsptof I)arien, by Sir Gregor 111`Gregar.

rain wool,' the enenties of American inde.
pekdenee, and the mercenary scribes in the pay
of the Spanish Government, wish to assimilate
the operations of the American Independent Chief.;
of the I9tl, century, with tliteas of the Ilneclneers
of tie '6th. Morgan and .'Gregor bear no ye-
benablance to each other, unless it he in their
hrnvery, which no one can contest. The Ruc-
eaneers were robbers, not recogo;sed by any Go-
vernment, whose trade was rapine owl murder;
tlit it habits were to attack a town, and after
committed therein crimes and barbarities of every
description, to pillage it and carry off its riches,
I eavi g behind them nothing but desolation and
deeds. Such was the system of the Buccaneer-v,
and of Morgan in particular, whom it has ',lensed
these Spanish writers, in The Nem. Times and Bri-
tish Monitor, to place on the same footing with the
General commanding the Indeptoident Army of
New Granada, whiCl, has existed as as Independeut
Republic ever since the year ISI I.

VlThen a man dare not face his enemy openly, he
attacks him in the dark, or calumniates his charac-
ter. Thus impotent degraded Spain is now re-
duced to war with the prostituted pens or sac!► poor
scribblers as hove dared to make a comparison
worthy of the enlightened character of the I ngitisi-
tors of Madrid. If it must please these. writers to
speak of Buccaneers, and to place the scene of
their atrocities iu Southern America, let them give
to the world the history of those who have drenclicif
iu blood that fine portion of the globe—of ilia...!
who have covered it with' mourning and with

Ti'

... I 111 1)10041 Mit fine put tii fiir glime—iii 1111.-f7
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who have covered it with' mourning and twilit 1
MINOR! Ti" I crimes—of such men as Goyeneehe, Mott!rieril,:,
WHO TOTED ON MR. BROUG'HAM'S MOTION TO SCRIReTi
Murillo, and Morale.. These, Sir, and no other.,
CHARITABLY'. INSTITUTIONS, HAVING VISITORS, TO THE
INQUIRY OF THE commissios Las. are The Buccaneers of the Igo, century ; these are
Barnett, James Earrand, R. Pringle, John the au+ hors of oil the sutferiogs which America
Birch, Jos. Gordon, Itidirrt Poway's, Nom W. groans under ; these are the men who would din,.
Proven, B. Grenfell, Pdgelle Prot heroe, E. palate sod resin the 11*r:stern Hemisphere ; Init
hal bant, J. F. Graham, Sandford Palmer, C. P.
Brand, flisn.T. Gipps, G. Phillips. C. M. guided by Liberty, and crowned by Victory, bile
Iteolitick, Lord W. Grant, J. P. Price, Robert will rise victorious from the Cl ael and pint u I
Bunion. T. F. Griffith's, John W. Bickford, Wm,
Beaumont, T. W. Gown' y, 11. Rowley, Sir W. struugir. Bolivar, San Martin, M'Gregor, and
Ilrootriorm, Henry lionyamoil, W. I'. Rom', IF, A. W. all the brave men who follow their standard, are the :
Calvert, C. Harvey, D. W. Roberts, W.T.
Cavendish, Lord G. Hume, Jos. Reinhold, C. E. deliverers of America, and tint her oppressarr.
A. If. Hutchinsoli,lin C. Siuclair, Geo. Let the Journals of tile Inquisition, and of the just '
Calitiorpe.lln. F.G. Lamb, HIM. G. Sumner. H.
Cidevatt, J. Lamb, Hue. t\'. Smith, John. and clement Ferdinand, he alone the reef:lot:Kies of I
Crompton, gyn. Mackinnon, W. Stwliloo, K.
XCI espurny,flirW. Morpeth, bird Ticlifie Id. Marg. of such disgusting absurtlitiev, nod let not an Fog-
I lish Paper pollute its column., by pobli,biug .to.!i 1
Denman, Thos. Musick, Sir C. Thorp, Aldrrinia i
'Nelson, W. J. Marne, Julin Tentifmn, C. sentiments, even were they cfreially sent Irriial
Ellice, E. Matlock', W. A. IVillmlforce, W.
Dutrultsg-nreet, or Portland-pl.,ce.
Ellison, R. Munroe, Jus. Waithman, Ald.
Ehrinirton, Lord Moore, Peter V, I, M. Compitrioini having been !hail:Jed, wt. msy
E usion, Earl of North, Dudley Williams, Sir R.
therefore apply the epithet of BUT 'sneers to those
I:mie,J. Nuramsby, Lord Weilerii, C. C. ~1
rurtics, C. NeW01211,.11- W. Wiiiialitille. Cl. who, on all accounts. merit this denomination.
Finlay, Kirkman Ord, Wm. Wilson, Sir It. San Martin, commanding the tr.:oll4r army of .1
Tarratts—Hun. E. Douglas, W. ficarleit.
constituted Governinent, where Great Britain hat
PAIRTD ore vow TRW Ctstinit —Mr. Wharton, Mr. R.
Smith, Mr. K. Colboras. and Mr. Bennett, placed a Consul. notwithideniling the Foreign Mi.. ‘1
- listment Bill ; Bolivar. at the head of On: Veils.- ,
zuelan populeti ttttt supported by numbera of our ,
The Bamnetage of the late Sir EDWARD YATB,
of Kent, which hiss long reineioril in eloeyasire. is brave countrymen, and as General-in-Chief 4.f ins
flow chained by W AlVnis HONYWOOD VATS, Ewq. established Grover ttttt ent, have a right 10 apply tl a ~
of Gloucestershire, as the bees' heir of the VATIC term of Buccaneer to Morillo. and to Morales, who,
rgetl with rapine and cmitiibutions. forcibly
riniTtibYe•Lords Commimionera of the Amralty have irivoried
on
the inhabitants or Carder/at and Cuomo's.
Riven directions for an 84-gists 'lisps tube
called the Veil wise'
in the year ISIS, sent off as many as se . I
Goliath, and also a 28-gun ship, to he named the i
Success, to be built at the new dock-yar.!,rembruke. laden with plundered merchandise fur their owe
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