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did vote against the admonition which the Noble 'however, say dila, that regular abhors aloud to essmlue
Lord hail given. I lain the affairs of the prisms, is order to leant whether the
Mr. C. Bsrituare said it could not be that the prisoners bad any complaints to make. And it was smile-
minority had voted against the admonition of his brihviiiit• dsitirtlienagehtandatthatt Whorfiihy•*degoakrilis°, 111.4i.eh"ge
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his
Noble Friend, because that odinonition was not the that
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jailed, _ it a matter reatiluworittig
question on which they voted. If it were meant to t pager.—(Heur. keen. sod is - ---
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Tinfoits that they voted in that manner In cc sue- 'NO T. L ETH ORI DC EataretT a toms( could be better
Ihm the system purposed in that In fact he might ..M.
(pence of that admonition, then the paragnipli. wail
moat call it a perfect mittem; mot sbould the Ilousefeel lbw-
correct, tit least if the admonition had.the teudency...4.4. to appoint • Committee of Inquiry, they itesfuld say
which A was stated to have. Ile ihriiisilirtlii-Win.. that be had not ekelecereted._olhar, k ) -
Member might withdraw his mollon •ripoti thillee)s:.. Dr. LUSHINGTON wished to say a 'few *Mita, as be
but he esUlfsfl 'felt peculiarly ititeresied, both as the Represeniativeqf 11-
planation being elenrly understood,
chanter. and as 611614 Stern requested to support the Pei i-
Hot consent to its being withdrawn under the de-
lion. He atoms considered it the duly of every Member
fence of the Hon. Member opposite, that it was out
to present a Petition when intrusted to him, hot not to sup.
an offence in any view. • port it artless well informed of the truth of its contents
Sir R. Firaoosuts said, that under the impression /tad in consequeace of this °Motion, 'when appliestiou 100 l
that the language of the Noble Lord on a former been Made to loins On the subject, b• informed the party
evening tended to the repression of petitions also. that be should make the necessary inquiries. The result of
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ether, he, on that occasion, rose mid ske with theae.biuquirisesa he should Stale to the House as Welly as
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tleruo,
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nutma deny,
ay of thestatesneois in the Peti *
softie warmth in reply. He advised the Hononi-
st he had aeon confined
able Member for l'orkshire to withdraw his alio- for anon yeirs was eerlain; but nut for the sum of 341.
lion, and remonstrated with him on the ineunriat- hat a magi larger aura—(Hier, Acar)—and it in also true
ency of his 'fel-06ring them to accede to his opi-
that for many years be retried to execute a deed, where-
by he might have obtained his liberty. But now let
Mon that -the paragraph was, improper, when they
us take the other aide of the question. It is uow
entertained a contrary opinion, four years sines Is promised to execute the deed. Ho
Lord C4IIIILEIRRAGII again explained the impres- (Ur. Lusbingion) examined the aceitonts, and he believed the
sion he had intended to convey by the words lie only balance now remaiaing was 701. And he really could
Used on the evening alluded to. not see why the man should stem be liberated. It was not
Mr. STUART .IVolti'LllY, across the table, asked hisiheinteoati,oin to e_iitenusie his guilt, be may have beau
if he was to underatand the offer of the Hon. Mem- in
b tpenialalayl,e'andbubtebirhioreanehriraaismirotriwt ":"nalrliwtoant 'La
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her for Shrewsbury tb withdraw his amendment us pact from the Irusency of the Government, iri7enniat the as-
a CniirtalliOis orthe impropriety of the idtragraph ? crifice of the 71) pounds to liberate this poor old man of
(Cries qf " No, no," frorollie Opposition.) seventy years of age. With respect to I tcheater goal, there
te•vo!t must be some incoscreniencie*, but it has nude:lone
Mr. DRNISIAN arid he was not sorry that 8
the present motion hod been brought on, as he reersylusstecrovemaitoe"tas,hintdwaotioininpossi.i.hle to iottoduce a vv.;
thought it wowed the great evils that were likely the flier. It was damp,ist anti necessarilyr Biiittl"Zei•Onrnear.
to result from a Ferorverance in the rejection of the But no prisms that be bad ever seen (and he hail seen many)
Petitions of the people. trosessed so many advantage., •under all the Circumstances.
was, like all other gaolers. a little surly;
The call for the question became very loud, and 'brulitelelemobekor
lievheedkniew,
stranger. were °Meted to withdraw; it wits not, how- useful man; in fart", bePsZsilacomuoisdt there
hbreflust:ldroatnemnl°rites
ever, till some time after the gallery had been the hands of the Magistrates, who introduced that reforma.
ckeired that the division took ',thee, wheu the num- lion into the prison. He should conclude by expressiug an
ben %were— earnest hope that the Chancellor of the Exchequer would not
' I<f .es . 155 be so hard-bearitd as to peon.vere in imprisoning thia pour
Ayes .
•••• . .. 34 old man
--. Sir ISAAC COFFIN was acquainted with the borough of
Majority against the Amendment of Ilehrster, and he perfectly concurred in the character giveu
Mr. Rearm
After a few words from Sir FRANCIS OMMAN N EY the
The question on the original motion bring then Petition was brought up.
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pot from the Chair— Mr. Alderman WOOD replied. He worthd not deny that the
Mr. LAW/TON moved the - tuestion. Petitioner might have --pared sebedules for - -.• T.- •i•

r.. ASUITON ..... previous q .1(3.•
After some short discussion, Mr. STUART
Wmtet.try observed. that if the principle were ad-
mitted that it was a breach of privilege, he had and
objection to withdraw hia motion.
Dr. LUSH I NGTON said, that no min could dos
it was a breach of prisilege; lie therefore hoped thP.
lion. Mcinbar would be satisfied, and withdraw bin
motion.
Mr. STUART WORTLEY observed, that lie was
perfectly satisfied.
Mr. L A HSTON withdrew his amendment, after I
a few obsettations.
The motion was accordingly withdrawn.
The House then proceeded to other business.
The Transportation Rill was received from the Loids.
Lord PA LMERSTON laid some papers before the House. j
relative to the medical expenses of the army.—Laid on the
table.
Tim Calmly Courts Rill was postpone.' to Thursday next.
Mr. STUART wortmcv postponed the Grampound
Disfraclaisenteist Bill to Tuesday
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER poopoisak
his motion, relatise to the resumption of cash mum's,to 7
Monde) next.
At the request of Mr. BARING, be consented to postpone
it to Monday senisight.
Lord CASTLEREAGH laid before She House some
papers relating to the prices of foreign corn.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT gave notice, that on Thursday
neat he would move fur the return of all rums expended 00
the new Post-Office, Dublin, within the last seven years.
At the request of Sir GEORGE HILL, Sir HENRY
PARNELL postponed the 'tithes Leasiug (Ireland) Bill
to Wednesday next.
ILCHESTER GAOL.
Mr. Alderman WOOD stated, that he held in his hand a
Petition from a man of the name of Charles Hill, who lass
confined for the last fifteen yf ars in Ilcbester gaol. and he w•ii
happy to see the Hon. Members for the Couuty of Farmer's, t
in their places, that they might have an opportunity of con.
ti 'dialog the statements, if pot true. Time Petit luster stated,
Ihni he had been a collector of taxes, and in 1806 was charged
with a deficiency of 6191. In consequence of this, he sold
his property to the amount of 400/. and collected taxes, that
were still due, to the amount of 1761. hut that there still re-

'stained due a balance of 34/. fur which sum he has been con-
Guest aisicelhat period —(Hear,korr.)—Over and over again
be conseuted to a. II his property to pay the debt ; he peti-
Boned the Commisakosers, and he petitioned that House.
The Petitioner is 70 years of age, and proceeds to enume-
rate a lung hat of grievances; he makes many complaints
against the gaoler. He wuitld not, however then detain the
House, he would merely claim that some relief should he
extended to the Petitioner. Look to the defaulters in the
higher walks of life, who ,sere perhaps at that ointment en-
joying the patronage of the present Administration, and
•Ibes they must agree with him, Shot it is not too muds
10. ask for that old man of seventy.---(Heerv, ireass.)—
ifartuos complaints had bees made against the system per-
*sued in that gaol. The tr.-mimeo' that Mr. Hunt experi-
enced of lair was much to be complaiued of. During the
ahreevalty of Sir Charles Bonifield he experieoceil much
kindness, hut be has berm used quite differeutly since the
present Moira has hero appointed, as if forsooth his ini-
primmusent were not long rnorqh without may further ag-
gravation. He would not details the House longer on the
.alt. He should, however, feel it his duty, •113 some
future serarioo, so move for • Committee to investigate lb.
atatsripmsta made resipeciiog Wheeler gaol, which, if true,
we or a moat disgraceful nature. At present he chussld
Assad himself with moving that the Petition be brought up.
Sir. CREEVEY prayed the mientioa of the House to the
Petition It was I:Heatherly hard that a malt of 755 rain
of age shood b• imprisoned fir fifteen years, fur the sum of
34 pounds at the suit of the Crown. His condition was 111-
litsii.ly worse than that of his superiors. Fur the House
cannot be ignorant that there ore defaulters in the higher
circles, who are permitted to go about al large. 'nitro was
the caw of Mr Villiers, a defaultrr to the amount of 100,000
pounds. He did not mentMn this for the purpose of Milne-
. tug the Government to punish Mr. Villiers. All he said was
tots, that there should nut be one law fur the pour sod an-
other fur she rids.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER professed
himself that partculr but it - -sled 5

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nave pm persons in pct
one, but that was no arguaseut is, favour of the confinement.
Re was surprised that any Hen Mertibcr could get op in his
plate and slate that he (Alibi-man Wood) hail made h•s re-
port, not Gum ocular demonstration, but from a written
etstement ; whereas he timid prove that he, in company
with an Huss Member of that 111/11.P. a Surveyor, and the
Town Clerk, were in that prison for sonic I rs.—(Haar )
As to whether the statements in the Petition welc true or
Not he would not then say, hut he could not quite agree in
the character given of the gaoler; for he could state an in-
stance of a persuo charged with fraud, Dow living in the
house of the gaoler ever sitter he was imprisoned there (Mr.
Kinnear), actually in the habit of playing cards with him.—
(Here the worthy Alderman was interrupted with erica of
Qreatioa,queslicia."l--Hc well knew there would he found
gentlemen in that House willing enough to cheer statements
that were not tree, but would not hear their contriolictioos.
But he was stating facts, and was Dot to be pat down.
Ile was sure 114 Ilan. Members fur the county had novenae
to complain of his swam of courtesy. He waited for the up-
portunity of pri sewing the Petition in their presence. He
had, in company with solsere, visited every gaol in Eng-
land, anti made his reMsrks in writing as he wend .long, and
he was sore that 'Gentleman most have beta misinfurmed, or
he never would have made the statement.
Mr. DARING observed, that the klegiatiateri of the
county were most respectable men, and paid the closest at-
tention to the gaol. He had heard that the City of Loudon
bad made a pilgrimage to all the genie in the country,
and published their Reports.—(Cries of Hear, fiser..;—
He hail ovule inquiries into the case, and lie understood the
facts to be Aerie :—Two Aldermen, a serveyorealid tows clerk,
arrived in llchester, and like a genuine City deputation, the
int thing they did was to order a good dinner—(Marcia
lentgltler)—aad they sat IN long after 'limier, that they left
the lowa without ever bowing visited the gaol at all—
(Cketes)—assil a strong coarfirmaliou of this story was, that
they made their report, descrihiute the premises, a pump io
the yard, and so forth, that had actually been altered a
t rowerniiiith before.--(Clieera end laughter.)
Mr. WILMOT wished to ask the worthy Ablernian, whe-
ther he had visited the gaul, or made his report frum a writ-
ten stalemeal
Mr. BERNAL rose to order. He did not conceive that
any Hun Member hail a right to put, directly or iiadiri-clly,
sue interrogatory, after be boil dimly(' the fact.
Mr BUXTON confirmed the statement, that the good
Aldermen arrived at Iklotster, and had a geed diuner,

14 prii. ease, . appeared to
him from his owe ►hawing. that it was nut a case in which
the Treasury could inteitere for mercy.
Mr. DICKINSON observed. that he had often visited that
rant, and made sume inquirsei respecting the case of the l'e-
tiqoaer, and really the Imprrr•iou on his mind was, that the
sum vas much larger than that describe 1. He lersloud
that afro s had been made to Lim of hi, liberty, on condition
of his giving up his property, hut he declined doing
ran He understood, 'solved, that be had bees truing
the trade of an attorney in the put, sad he believed that he
was disemod to brawn there in consiquence of the prulilsof
his prufossion.—( Mar, hear.)—Wash respect to the
bona thrusts/out against the Sher .IT of Sumerselshire, be ninst
say they were most unmr►ited—s
not live; and should the House appoint a Committee to ills
vestigste the affairs of llcliesier gaol, be was ready to meet
the worthy Alderman un the question of Mr. Hunt and the
Sheriff. tie iruuld uut tbeu titter lulu details. He must

end after dimmer mot for the gaoler, sod made their report
without visiting the gaol.—(.l laagh.)—He had some ex-
perience in these affairs. and he considered the gaoler of
Wheeler a most valuable and useful me.n.—(flear. hear.)
Mr. Alderman WOOD hoped the lionise would permit
bins to repel the charges list had bees made against him.-
-(fiestr, hear.)—The Hon. slentber had indulged himself
with an attack tin him, no deist,t to the great amusement of
the Home, fur he ham, how acceptable any thing in the
shape of ■o attack wits to certain persons, who were a little
obnoxious to them. and be believed the humble iudividual
who addressed them had given them some pangs—Moor,
heor.)-oHe repeated again that he had been In the gaol
wills an Honourable Gentleman who haul then been a Mew.
her of that Home, and he hoped the House world permit
him to call the gassier of Ilehester to the bar of that House.
A strong contradiction of the statement is this, that, if
they looked its.° the report of the Aldermen, they would find
no descriptiou of either the places or the articles alluded to
by the Honourable Member (Mr. Baring). They were at that
time preparing to bnild a large gaol in London, 41141 it
was with that authority they proceeded. He Lad bums
elected as one of those Moho shoutd Make the visit.—
Tlie Hoo. Member thought the dustier ■ good topic to ex-
cite a sneer, Mosses he made no question the Gentlemen 41
that House loved a good diuuer as well as any class of
ht. Majesty's' subjects; but he could assure the Honourable
Member they did not slim there. The situation of the pour
ms„ wan truly deplorable, to he kept in gaol for so paltry a
alum, et a time whets the typhus fl suer razed in the prison
In that degree, the Judges Would lust try the primmer. at the
Assizes. Was this a in-titgr to buu met iu the way it had
been, and a doubt made as it the Petition ought not to be
brivight alp ?
Mr. HUTCHINSON, before the Petition was bronght up,
wished to say a few woad.. fie considered the worthy
Alderman had been very lotrilly dealt wills on the present
occasion. and ought to be considered as ass attack, nut uu
him a'one, but at the moat valuable privilege of the people.
The Honourable Member for Somerset had set the evidence of
whom -
tunas.

Ilso gaoler, of she man condom was romplained of,
against charges brought ria tbat very paler.
Mr BARING explained.
Alderman WOOD said, that what had surprised hint most
was, dial the Hunuorable Alernber had made hi: counter-
statentents after his own positive assertion. The Flf”ropra.
hie Mrniher had heard • direct falsehorol which lie heard
from the gaoler, that he (iklersoan W I) was mot present.
(qr. BARING said, after the 1.11)11. Alileernaii had assertrd
it, Le lIPV. r doohlrit hiss t*e was stone mistake.
Dr. LUEHINGTON asitM, if theansei **mid assign all his
property, whether the Right Honourable Gentleman opposite
would give-his indulgent toOsideration to the Petitiou
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER di lined
girsng an anatver till lie was farther informed.
The Ktation was then brought up.
ARMY gni AI A T ES.
On the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER utoyieg