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Lord Alvanley.
The Bills on the Table were read a third time.
Thin: were several second readings of Bills.
The Clerg.- Farming and Residence Bill passed
the Comrhittes., and also two others.
Ihe Earl of SUFFOLK said, he found the
Clergy Farming and Residence Bill had passed the
Coremitte.v. He must say, it did not come up to
ele idea which he had eepeaed, in regard to creat-
i.ig tl.e better provision tor the inferior Clergy.—
He had on a former day suggested one mode of
creating a real additional income, viz. by all the
beneficed Clergy contributing an aduaj tenth or fir
fruits, to be taken in aid of Queen Anne's Bounty.
He had-heard, that a measure was in contempla-
tion in the other House of Parliament ; he hoped it
WAS not the repeal of one of the most beneficial Aas
of Parliament that ever had passed (we presume his
Lordship meant the Mortmain Act). The Earl
added, that h'. had anxiously felt the necessity of
making some better provision for the inferior Clergy,
and had hoped, before providing for granting li-
cences for the Non-residence of the beneficed Clergy
the present Bill, which had just passed the Com-
mittee, would have begun with enacting some mode
of provision for the inferior Clergy.
The LORI) CHANCELLOR said, the present
Bill had not done what the Noble Earl so anxiously
wished, under the belief that another Bill, formed
with a view to the objea of the Noble Earl's anxiety,
was in contemplation, and would soon be brought
before both Houses. It did not, his Lordship said,
become him to say more upon the subje't, or to un-
dertake to pledge himself that such a Bill would be
so brought in, a.s he had stated, but he could assure
the Noble Earl, that the obje& .of his wishes, had
not been lost sight of during She proceedings on
the present Hill.
The Earl of SUFFOLK repeated his hope, that
it was not meant to repeal the excellent statute, to
which he had alluded, in order by that means to d-
i le& the important obje4 in question.

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ARMY OF RESERVE.
Lord HOBART moved that this Bill be read a
third time ; whicls being read, his Lordship moved
two or three Amen.dtriernts, which ware agreed to.
The I,PRD CIIAN-ELLOR put the question,
wh ,n
The Earl of SUFFOLK asked, at what stage he
might be allowed to deliver his sentiments, as a mi-
litary man, as to the best mode of defence that
ought to be adopted by Ministers*?
flit LORD CHANCELLOR said, he might
state on his putting the question, " that the 1i 11
pass." 1-hs Lordship then. put the question on the
third reading, which was agreed to, and the Bill
was read a third time.
On the LORD CHANCELLOR putting the
question " thllt this Bill do pass,"
The Earl of SUFFOLK rose, and began by re-
ferring to having been called to order on a former
night. He insisted upon it he had not been out of
order, much less nad he encroached upon His Majesty's
Prerogative, as another Noble Lord had imputed to
him. His Lorshipthen proceeded to resume his former
arguments, and to dwell on the merits of the
several officers he should have wished to have seen
employed by Ministers in such a critical emergency
as the present. He particularly mentioned Lord
Grey, Lord Rawdon, and -General Lord Hutchin-
son, dwelling very forcibly on the strong claims to
the confidence of Government and tl e country,
which each of those Noble Lords possessed. He
said, the strength of an army did not wholly con-
sist in its numbers, but on its being well officered,
and well disciplined. He spoke of the etchievernints
of the army employed m Egypt, and minutely
stated, where and under whom, the component
parts of that army had been disciplined; a great
part of it under Lord Hutchinson, and the
five thousand troops that went from Minorca,
under a General now no more, General St:. irt.
Having finished that division of his argument, he
spoke of the advantages that resulted from the part-
ing from the rule of seniority in seleding Officers to
command in chief on great enterprises and expedi-
tions. He complimented Lord St. Vincent oil his
having boldly taken those officers which he had seve-
rally chosen to place at the head of squadrons and
fleets, last war. Had he not departed from the
routine of office, this country, in all probability,
would never have derived the great and important
advantages obtained by the Conqueror of Egypt.
The French in the war of the Revolution lu4 owed
much of their astonishing successes from having se-
laled men of the greatest courage and ability, some
serjeants of dragoons,and others in subordinate ranks,
and trusted them with commands of Brigades, and
still higher stations in their army. He mentioned
the origin of Massena, Moreau, Hoche, and many
of their great Generals, as having been in very infe-
rior situations, when they were first taken and
placed at the head of large bodies of troops. This
pra&ice was, his Lordship said, adopted so early as
Robespierre's time, and followed during all the
periods in which France was under different rulers
1 'during the late war, with the highest success. His
!Lordship having said much on this topic, passed on
to another, which he had once before recommend-
ed, viz. the appointment of a Military Committee,
'to consist only of four of our ablest officers. He
'pointed out Lord Rawdon as a proper officerto be one
t,' if the four, and one otherequally able,togcther with
two of the first engineers in the service, might
easily be found to form that Committee. He
said, the success of France, during the late
war, bad been principally owing to their having in-
stituted such a Committee, whose office it was to
suggest plans of sieges, engagements, &c. &c.
and to deliver those to the commanders hi chief in
each &pennant, withorders to execute them. He

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said that k had been Carnot's lot to read the first
Report of their Military Committee, and, by the
great wisdom and policy of that Report, the merits
of the men who drew it was found out, and they
were immediately employed, and amply, by their
victories in all quarters of the Continent, manifested
the excellence of the choice of their services which
had been made. After a variety of observations on
this part of the subject, and strongly exhorting his
Majesty's Ministers, his Lordship at length sat
down.
Lord CLIFTON (Earl of Darnley) rose, not,
he assured the Learned Lord on the Woolsack, to
revenge himself upon him, for having interrupted
him the preceding evening. He by no means intend-
ed to detain their Lordships long, but there were
some sentiments impressed uponhis mind so etringly,
that he could not but anxiously wish to take that
opportunity of stating them to their Lordships, and
would promise to do it as shortly as he WAS able.
Possibly the Noble and Learned Lord had inlet-
rupted him on a principle of modesty, under an ap-
prehension that he was about to pass a panegyriac
on His Majesty's present Ministers, but such had
'not been his intention. He had no particular pre-
delidion for His Majesty's Ministers, nor any desire
to over-rate their abilities. He thought abler men
might have been found ; but from many votes of
that, and the other Pouse of Parliament on dif-
ferent parts of their condad, it was. evident
that they had the confidence of Parliament, and
it WAS clear, that they also had the confidence
of their Sovereign ; he had no right, therefore, to
conclude, that they had not likewise the confidence
of the country ; and he felt, under these particular
circumstances of the moment, it was his duty, Is
it was that of every mast who could do •it with a
safe conscience, to afford them every 'support and
assistance in his power. With regard to the present
Bill, he thought it a wise and efficient measure, and
he approved it the more, because, in his conscience,
he believed it to be the only predicable mode cl sud-
denly raising a numerous and consi 4erable body of
forces for the internal defence of the kingdom. He
trusted it would be found to be a most useful Bill,
and the effed extremely beneficial to the public set/
vice. His Lordship said, he could not but regret, that,
day after day, they heard from military charaders
of great authority, that the country could not be
saved by regular f'orce.s, at the very time, and in the
very breath, that these high military authorities indee
vidually confessed, that recruits fer regiments of the
line were not; to be had. It was becornc_a pradiee
to bow implicitly to such doftrines, and to consider
such subjects as fit to be debated on by Minis-
ters and military men only Upon this sinciple,
he supposed, Qucd medi:ortste est, prom thins mede, ;
tratiant fabri!ia fabri. He certainly was neither Me.
dicui nor faber ; neither a Minister, no; a militaly
man, but still he thought himself as much entitled to
discuss the object of the present Bill, and all that
related to the defence of the country, as any other
description of men, whether political me y ;
and he could not think that the sort of arguments
we had frequently beard, of the nature to which he
alluded, were more likely to excite to despondency,
than to rouse the general spirit cf the people. What
was it but telling them that the country must be lost,
becausewehed not so large a disposaele force asmight
bewishedfor? Nay,inthe mannerofstating their argue
ments, these great military charaelers very incauti-
ously acted, because what fell from such high authority
could not but make a deep. impression without doors,
and must tend to create dismay and distrust in the
people as to their security and safety. A Noble
Lord had the other night, in that House, publicly
avowed, that there was to his knowledge one brie
gade, consisting of four battalions, in a state of the
most shameful incompletion. He thought such a
declaration mischievous to the last degree; he did
not mean to charge the Noble Lord with having
made it with any mischievous design ; he knew that
he made it with the best possible motive, and with a
view to rouse the energies of the people, aad prompt
them to execution ; but he must contend that it was
more likely to damp their spirit and depress their
ardour, by diminishing their confidence in the Go-
vernment of the Country. He had hoped that his
Majesty's Ministers would have instantly risen and
contradided the fad • and if it should have happen-
ed that a single brigade WAS in such a miserable sie •
tuation, that Ministers would have assured the House
that the battalions of that brigade 'would shortly be
completed. Indeed they might, with great. truth,
have stated, that the other regiments of the line
were complete, and they had it in their poWer to
have stated several ; for instance, the Guards,
the Cavalry, and various other corps.--etle ad-
mitted, that if the regiments of the line could
be completed, it would be must desirable. But so
far was he from thinking, that only the regulars
could save the•country, that he felt confident that the
country would be saved, even if the present Bill did
not pass, though he thought it perfedly wise in Mi-
nisters to have brought it forward, end he would
be the last man living to protrad its passing by any
unnecessary argument. He must, hoWtver, be per-
mitted to say, that he had not the smetest appree
hensions of the want of energy, either IR Govern-
ment, or of spirit in the people. Put It sword into
an Englishman's hand, and he would feel like an
Englishman, and fight in an undaunted manner,
when he feels that he is fighting to repel a daring
and insolent invader. The whole country would,
he had no doubt, rise and join such an enemy
as was likely to be opposed to us ; let no mass, there•
fore, despair, or droop for a moment. Let him
but exert himself in the common cause, in propor-
tion as the exigency of the circumstance might re-
quire, and we might be assured of defending not
only every part of the country, but of punishing, in
the most exemplary manner, the despot who dared
attempt to land an army on our shores, His Lord-
ship said, that feeling, as he did, he. could not but
reprobate, in tie strongets terms, a speech delivered
M another place, by a military cearader ; and which
Parliamentary forms forbad him, in 4 more than
general way, to alludi. to. In that speeele it had
been thrown out, that we were vithieridele its yarions
points, and that the eaeray might, in the mine at-