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• from the Throne, that they would pay
oendatton
icular i• ention to the maintenance of the pub-
credit. Having before felt the immense benefit
.it-sirb our credit derived from the system of raising '
portion of the supplies within the year ; and
irth ' n air of ptrticular hardship on in-
wfor the
time, et be believed the general
livitiaats it wasythe only plan which could
olrltiinrnlt.'intelvyas4thoaltd and secure the best interests of
;rumor!. itbeut trespassing any further upon
tsiiitor time, he said he should, for t e present, content
.nsell with proposing the Address, which he then
et and
nwhich, as usual, consisted of a para-
the Speech, whose sentiments it ap-
ve
oyed, and whose recommendations it promised to
slept.
cf-lARLF.S ADAMS seconded the Motion.
for the able mariner in which the present state of
'mope and this country had been represented to
hem this day, from the Throne, it would, ha said,
very unnecessary for him to occupy their attention
,ng, by comments which he could offet on any of
he ;Nes Gentlemen might think conneCted
itt in 'Fite task, therefore, he had to perform,
:is the clonal-111 one of joining in the general exult-
oinn of them all, at the present condition of the
„wry, and that unanimity, which, he made no
ould be manifested by Gentlemen on all
odes, upon the present occasion. It was a proud
and triumphant refleCtion, that, after all the
tacconaJing and furious menaces, which had been
bunched against us for such a length of time, our
narod superiority had enabled us not only to prate&
or on% shores from injury and insult, but elso to
black rip the enemy's squadrons, and shut them up
ft their own harbours, from the .Idtintic to the
It no dooto, damped consLlerably the
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pleasant sent ttions we should otherwise feel, that in
Spain vie were to behold a new enemy .unfl tie Con-
jinn: but but when it was felt that'Spairo cover:loyd
by theipower mid influence t.f France, after num-
berless aggressions and ails of hostility, would re-
snit noadon, nor yield to any expostulations
o s condo& we must console ourselves by the I
epnsideration, that there are moments when for-
be:trance becomes pusillnitimity, and patience be-
Certif.:: criminal. He expressed his satisfation at
finirro'n that overtures of a pacific nature bad been
made by France, and hoped in God that they
would prove to be sincere : he also trusted that they
wer• answered with dignity as well, as frankness;
bet, at all events, proud as he felt in the strength
of this nation, and the increasing event of its re-
sources, he was happy ip seconding an Address
which was likely to be carried to the foot of the
loons with universal unanimity.
The Address being then read .by the S
Mr. FOX aieured the House, that he did mot rise
for the purpose of detaining inherit Innof rninutes.
It was not his intertion to move any thing upon the
Address, or even to state those objections which be
might feel to some passages in the Speech. He
meant only shortly to adltt to two omissions of
some import ime, as he thought, in the Speech,
aitd
to noc part of the Address, *which went to approve
of His Majesty's determination, not affording more
explanation !elating to the offer or overtoreninde by
the Freneh Condiment, until he should consult
those powers on the Coittinient with wham he pro-
fessed to have intimate relations. For. his own part,
he did not see the necessity for any more explana-
tion, at present, beyond what was already ctismo-
nicated in the Speech, namely, that such overtures
bad beer! made. It might be possible, that, under
certain eircemstances, there might not have bean
any material differenc • of opinion on this subject,
but, knowing no more thin he did at present, he did
not see how hp could conscientiously approve nf
Ills Majesty's rletninsipation not to explain further,
till he consulted, .n.pt his allies, lot he hadol9
public allies, at twist, ppon the Continent, but
with those powers with whom he kept up some
confidential relations. Perhaps, had he known
is much of the subject as those who advised
thin paragraph in the Speech, he might have ap-
proved of it, and it might be very possible that
st would have happened otherwise; buthe could not
consent to give his approbation of a conduct of
which he knew so little, nor did he see why he should
be called upon to give it. As to the omissions which
he alluded to, the most material was, that of the
state of the Roman Catholics.of Ireland. He con-
fessed, that when he first heard the name of the
Honourable Gentleman who moved the Address
mentioned, he was strongly confirmed in the opinion
lie before entertained, that their situation would form
a leading part of the Speech which was to be pro-
nounced from the Throne atthecomroencement of
Session. tiny thing was wanting to support him in
th a persu whom it would be the pledges and engage.
ra seas formerly entered into by His Majesty's pre-
sent Ministers. Considering well these things, he
must acknowledge his great di.appointment at not
finding the first recommendation on the part of His
hlafesty to Iw, that this House should take Mtn its
I:notediate consideration the best means of consoli-
Oatiag tie union between this country and 'lreland,
he acceding to the just wishes of the Irish Boman
Catholics. This subjeCi, however, must speedily
come, in come shape or other, under the considera-
tion of the House, for, till that was done, thete was
no honest or refleeting man could soy that there
was any security for the preservation of the British
Empire. He was very glad to hear from the Ho-
arse: able Gentleman ( Mr. Dillon), that the mili-
tary and naval force of Ireland was greatly im-
proved in its strength and discipline ; but he
could not Ise contented with that alone, while
under the full coneinion, that the best and surest
.*Jence of any nation was always to be found
the satisfaCtion, the cordiality, and the union
of tae
people. In speaking of the second omis-
sico, he wished fist to premise, that whenever
this country was called noon by the Govern-
ment for any great ne extraordinary esettion,
he was
ever aecustonted to hear front the throne, in
the next session, the el.& produced by these ex-
ertions in the course of the recess. On all such oc-
casions it was usual for the Sovereign to compli-
ment his Parliament on the success of its endea-
vours. Now, when he recolleded the many night-.
consumed, and be believed he might say weed, in
the course of the last Session, in discussing the first
plan profaned for the improvement of our national
defence ; when he remembered the warmth with
which that plao es is combatted, and another pro.
P".(1 Sc a better sinotitute, by those who now took
Le lead in Hu Majesty's councils he had a right

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to expert that the House shesphl be informed, not of
the order or improved skill of 41f Volunteers and
others, but of the success of what was to constitute
the whole differencebetween the efieetive measures of
thipresentMinisters,and,as itwas called, the debility
and incapacity of their predecessors. But finding, as
he now did, that the plap of those now in office had
totally and specifically failed, he must consequently
ci include one of two things, either that an encreaced
military force was no longer necessary, or that some
means more effectual remained to be resorted to ;
and, as nothing had hitherto been done, in what had
o:.:cupied so much of their time in discussing, and
its which some Gentlemen displayed such ability and
so much power of argument ; he was yet in hoirel,
that something might he adopted to supply this (le-
plorable deficiency. In the earlier part of the last
session, it was remarked, that, as there was no great
dependence to be placed in the plans of the Chop
Ministers, it was necessary to recur to the disagreea-
ble expedient, of trying What better might be effea-
ed by the suggestions et individuals. As the House
could not, from the experience it had hitherto, place
any greater reliance on the present, than it could on
what was then invidiously called the Executive Go- ;
vernment, he trusted the same nines of individUal
suggestion would, for the benefit of the ptilslic, be
again resorted to. As to the subjeet of the rupture
with Spain, he was not disposed to prejudge the me-
rits of the case, before lie had the opportunity's'of
considering the Manifesto and other documents,
which were promised to the House ; but, even at
this in,tant, he could not help saying, that, on which
ever side the justice of th; case might ußips4tely pre-
ponderate, the seizing of the Spanish ships had, at
first view, at least, a very unseemly appearance. He
Ois :est 't to be considered, that there was no time
when this country was called upon to stand more
Clear of any such imptitation, than the present: •
At the moment. when the outrages committed *by .
Trance upon the rights and laws of nations, out-
rages so flagrant that it was impossible to justify or
palliate thens, were trumpetted in the ears of all
other governments, as inducements to espouse the
cause In which we were embarked, we should have
:been mindful that it be' oved those,who stood forth
as the advocates of justice and moderation, to be just ,
and moderate themselves, so as not to leave it in
the poiier of surrounding states, whether neutral or
otherwise, to say We see outrages and viola-
tions of all kinds committed, and, what is still worse,
we have the mortification of seeing two great na-
tions vying with each other which shall be the
most violent and the most outrageous." These, in
his mind, should be the sentiments of the House,
which ought to decide, without any partiality to its
own Government. and without considering whether
the outrage, if it was such, was against Spain, or
any other country.
Mr. PITT expressed himself very happy to find,
that it would not be necessary for him to trouble ,
the House with many words upon the present occa-
sion, and should therefore confine himself to a few
remarks on the observations just made by the Hon.
Gentleman. He had properly declined expressing -
any opinion of the conoltia of the British Govern-
ment, in oot entering into any negociation with
F: ante, without consulting those Powers with whom
we had confidential relations, and particularly the
Emperor of Russia, who had already afforded se
many proofs of his wisdom and magnanimity, rd
had given the most explicit assurances of friendship
to this country. He agreed with the Honourable
Gentleman, that no person bad a 'right to call d
him to pledge himself to a specific-approbation of
sebjeCt, on which he was, in a great measure, unin.
formed : but, until the proper documents could
be produced. it was sufficient for the purpose
of this address, that His Majesty had stated
his being eng,..ged in serious negotiations with
ra er nations, in affairs relatingto the objeas of the
present war. This alone, he thought, might sa-
tisfy any considerate man, that, while His Majesty
was in these intimate and confidential relations with
se wise and powerful a Prince, he might safely ap-
prove of his not prematurely committing himself in
a negotiation with France, at the very first pro-
and without any communication whatever
with that power with which he was engaged in a
negoc:ation of great consequence. 'lle commit him-
self in so inconsiderate a manner, would, in his opi-
nion, be neither prudent or politic, in any way in
which it could be taken ; but, surely, the Hon.
Gentleman must be perfelly aware, that there must
be periods in important and confidential negocia-
tions, in which both wisdom and policy must forbid
any communication or disclosure. He was sure the
lion. Gentleman could not mistake him when Inp
confidently asserted that, such were the circling.
stances in which the country was engaged at Pier
sent, and he trusted the House would give him the
credit to believe, that when the proper season for k
should arrive, he would withhold no intormation, no,
avoid the most full and ample discussion of the sub-
SAdverting to the points of omission in the
peech, to which the Hon. Gentleman had alluded,
he must first observe, that when stated as omissions,
they could not possibly be made a part of the debate
of this day, though he was aware that they must and
would shortly be submitted for the mature and de-
liberate consideration of -Parliament. From die re-
mote conneaion they bad with each other, they
must, of course, he considered separately, and
particularly, when lie should be found ready to de-
fend the conduit he hail himself pursued in regard
to both of them. On the first of them+ however,
he would forbear remarking the confidence with
which the Hon. Gentleman states, that there can be
no benefit whatever derived. frowi the Union with
Ireland. without making the subjea he alluded to,
of the situation of the Catholics, reOrnrandation
in the Speech this day delivered from the Throne.
He admitted that this was a very important point of
consideration ; but when he considered the length of
time the Union had already subsisted, and that dur-
ing that interval he never heard of any proposition
having been made to the effea now suggested, he
was at a loss to conceive why, at the present mo-
ment, it should be considered so pressing, as,not to
,admit of the most trifling delay. To be candid,
however, with the Hon. Gentleman, be was ready
to assure him, that had he thought it so extremely)
necessary to recommend that measure, as a leash:at
part of His Majesty's Speech this day, there was n
consideration which should have induced him to
have omitted it, even on the bioadest grounds that
he could leave in contemplation. All he had to say
in respea to that subjea wa.•, that he differed is

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opinion from the Hon. Gentler*, on the urgency
cif the case at present; why he suffered it to lie
dormamft so long, was a thing much easier
conceived than explained., and on which •he should
decline any further obse:raations at this time. The
military measure adverted to .was sueft to the same
observation, beinginapplicable as the former ' and
he declared, that he was as desirotti as the Hon.
Gentleman, or any other person,' that it should be
brought into discussion as sqon as possible. When
that cooper occasion arrived, he trusted he should be
fully able to sheW,that so far from that measure bar.
ing totally. and specifically failed, it had produced all
the good itlrescapahle of performing, and in most
parts of it; ihitead of being abandoned, it ought to
he persevered in. He should then prove that, since it
had been carried into execution, our military situa-
tion was, in eiery resned, materially improved. and
that nut; disposable army, the want of which was so
greaoy lamented under the former systeni, was itig-
snsoStd in a propoition far lieyoid what Gentlemen
seetnid to be aware 'elf. He was also prepared to
explain, that the reason wily it had not Produced a
much greater effeit, was, a considerable part of
the means, which 'might hafe seen applied to that
purpor, *as diverted. in order to strengthen Othpr
pints of our force; which were before defedeie. Buts
after haring said all this, be acknowledged
himself willing to confess every thing; consirel.-
ing be was pf opinion that other additioilal.
measures Would still be necessary. On the only re-
maining topic, respectingthe situation of thii
try with regard to Spain, whatever the priwa
.tide
appearance of the capture of the:ships might hies
impressed upon the mind of the Hon. Gentleman,
he mutt beg leave so wave any argument upon it,
until the whole of that sabjed should be fully
before the House. He admitted to the fullest ex-
tent the position of the Honourable Gentleman, 1
that the exercise of the virtues of moderation and 1
forbearance, at all times honourable and necessa-
ry to the character of a great nation, were never
more incumbent upon England, than in the present ,1
moment, when it should studiously avoid subjeffing 1
itself to the same disgrace and reproaches, which 1,
the eenduCt of France had brought upon its Go-
vernment i• but the occasion would shortly arrive,
when he shouJd be able to chew, to the convißion of
the House, and the whole world, that the detention
of' the Spanish vessels, so far from being any violation
of the prim iples of moderation and forbearance, was
a modification andiestraint of the rights of war, which
His hlajCstywas justly entitled toexerciseonthem ; and
when, by vindicating the whole condo& of the Bri-
tish Government in this respell, he should prove,
that in leaving the door still open to conciliation till
the Spanish Government declared war, the whole of
the proceeding towards Spain was in the spirit of
moderation, lenity, and tenderness.
Mr. FOX explained, that the Right Hon. Gentle-
man had not attended the opening of the last Session
of Parliament, or he might here known that the.
reason he did not propose the Cadudic question then
was, because he could not ;sped an assent being
given to it by the Ministers of that day, particularly
as the adoption of' that measure was represented as
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the greatest objesction to their predecessors.
Mr. PITT observed on this, that if such was the
case, he.was surprised the Hon. Gentleman did not
make it the subjed of a specific Motion.
Mr. WiNDH A M contended that, is his opinion,.
there was much more implied in His Majesty's
speech, as to the moderation adopted in regard to
the rupture with Spain, than the measure was really.
entitled to. It was true, the documents res
it were not at this moment before the House, but
he could not help coinciding in opinion with his
Honourable Friend, that it would certainly be de-
sireable to have the opinion of the House on the
point, as far as it went, and he, for one, should be
sorry, if the House did not give that opinion
as far as they were warranted to do. He should be
extremely sorry to think that he had risen in the
House, and not mentioned his decided reprobation
of the measure, so far as met his knowledge of it,
and particularly as to how it began. The Right
Hon. Gent. had said it was done in a manner that
was partly provisional and partly conditional ; but
this remained to be proved by the documents which
were to be laid before the House, and which, as they
were likely to become the subject of debate on some
future occasion, he should not at present talts Oath's
notice of. There was, however, another passage it!
the speech of the Right Hon. Gent. which be could
not, consistently with his duty, pass over without.
some observation ; and that was " that the state of
the army was at this moment more respedable than
at the time the measure he alluded to was brought
forward. There was certainly a double meaning in
the word mpedable, as applied in the present in-
stance. If, by respeltable, it was meant to say, that
it was sufficient in numbers, he would not take up
the time of the tloute by contesting the point; but it
its being in a state of propsr discipline was the ques-
tion, he teared the Right Hon. Gent. bad shewn him-
self too sanguine in his expettations. He then ad-
verted to a subjed, which, he said. hisd been brought
forward in the comae Cif the lastSessionof Parliament,
but which, had not been taken tip by the House. It
WAS, however, in his mind, a matter of such high
iroportanue. that it no other persqn should think it
oecesser" to bring it fOrward, he should certainly
deem its ditty to do it. .What he alluded to was
one of the most gross and flagrant violations of the
law of riatihns that was ever heard of. The ins.
prisooment of Csptain Wright in the Temple at
Paris, who had fen treated in such a marines
was never before kiwis n in the records and annals
the history of the civilised %lea He wished only
to recall it to the minds of His Majesty's
Ministers, that this matter is still fresh and
warm in the minds of the people of this
(wintry ; that they are burning with indigna-
tion at the idea of such treatment having been sub-
mitted to ; and the sentiment he now expressed, he
wished to come in aid of the. feelings and senti-
ments of the country at large. He thought it
requisite to use every means in our power to
countered a condult, so outrageous to humanity,
and so hostile and repugnant to the established
laws of nations ; and if nothing else would do it,
we could at least resort to the fair mode of retalia-
tion, and make reprisals on those subjects of the
enemy, who, is the course of the chances of war,
happen to be in a similar state of confineni.nt in this
country. Under these impressions, he should cer-
tainly feel it his duty; to move for a ComMittee to
take this subject into consideration; and he could

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not by any means allow himself to defer it for any
length of time. •
The question was then put on the Address, and
carried unanimously.
Mr. WINDH AM then gave notice, that he
would move for the appointment of the said Corn-
inittke on Monday se'nnight.—Adjourned.
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LON ijON,
WEDNESDAY, JANUAKY IG.
His MAJESTY yesterday opened the Session with
most gracious Speech from the throne. It was
universally allowed, that he never delivered a speech
with more firmness, or in a mete complete manner.
We shall only observe at present, that in its; man
points of a pacific overture from France, and the
answer, we yesterday stated the substance truly.
We should apprehend, from the conversation that
took place in both Houses, that our eonneaina
with Russia is much more intimate than it has been
enerally supposed ; but nothing transpired to give
a view of the state of Parties. Both Houses were
well attended, particularly the Lords, which we
have seldom seen so full. From the few words
that fell from the Duke of CL ARLSCE, we should
presume that His Royal Highness is in Opposition.
The Kura having been pleased to declare the
Right Hon. HENRY Viscount SID 4OUTII, Lord Pre-
sident of His MAJESTY'S Most Honourable Privy
Council: in the room of His Grace WILLs an
HENRY Carer:oasis, Duke of Portlaoi, who has
been permitted to retire on account of ill health ;
Lord 'Viscount St °MOUT'', on Monday last, took his
' place at the Board accordingly.—Gate!!..
His MAJESTY having also been pleased to deliver
the custody of the Seals of the Duchv of Lancaster
to the Right Hon. ROIERT Earl of BUCKINGR• 111
Slit az, the usual oath was on Monday admiuntered
to his Lordship.—Casette.
The Right Honourable Joins Hooklike! Fe m.
the Right Hon. Nirnot•s V ANSITTAIT. the Right
Hon. REGINALD Pots Cat sw, and the Right Rm.
JOHN SULLIVAN, were, on Monday, sworn of His
MAJESTY'S Most Honnurable Privy Council. and
took their resperilive places at the Board accordingly.
The Martinis COSNWALLts arrived in town yes-
terday, and is preparing for his immediate de-
parture to India. His Lordship has appointed
Captain G. A. Rosins° er, of Nottingham-place, his
Aid-de-Camp.
The Officer, who was bearer of the dispatch (tom
France, did aftually sail for France on Thursday
evening in the bitraeriairte. The weather was so
boisterous on Friday. that all communication wish
the shore was impratfficable. But on Saturday he
was landed at Boulogne.
Mr. BRAGGa RATHiiIIST has accepted the Office
of Chief State Secretary in Ireland, vice Slr FarAtt
NEet AN, promoted to a seat at the Board of Ad-
miralty.
Part of the Newfoundland feet have arrived
under convoy of the Ranger sloop. They patted
in a heavy gale, but the remainder are supposed io
have stood tor Ireland and the Bristol Channel.
The Two Brothrrs, SSLOA, from Lisbon, for Lon-
don, is lost near Margate.
The Padeay, —, from Cardiff, for London,
has been taken, retaken, and carried into Penzance.
Since the rupture with Spain, Generic Basest.,
Esq. of Rotherhithe, has equipped three private
ships of war. The Cororepolite, of 18 guise, which lsa
captured a Dutch ship value 80,0001. now lying at
Blackwell. The other two, at Gravesend. are sic•
tualling with all possible dispatch, to sail fur Sorni
America. There is no doubt of their scenes. a
having enterprising officers and men on board.
BK E AD.—Yesterday, the Loan Maros, after rn
:peeling the Mealweighers' Returns, ordered th
Bread to be lowered three-farthings in the Quarter
Loaf, to take place to-morrow. The Quartc-n Loa
Wheaten will then be sold for one shilling and three
pence farthing—and that of Household, one shillin
and one penny three farthings.
Monday was launched from Mr. DUDSIAN'S dot i
yard, at Deptford, a fine ship of NO tons, calk
the June, Dockets ol Gordon, built by C. CHRifall
Esq. and to be commanded by Joins CA SISIIOI
Esq. for the service of the Hon curable Fast-Ind
Company. She slid off the stocks with great r
deur and citations, at the time appointed. aff.rai
infinite satin:Aim to a very numerous and respea,
ble assemblage of the friends of the owners, among
whom were several beautiful females. After pa
taking of a very elegant cold collation at the hoe
of Mr. DUGSS AN, the company retired ; and the m,
part met again at six o'clock, at the London Tavel
where a most elegant dinner was provided. with
profusion of the choicest wines of almo t every
nomination; 41,ant BO people sat down to din
Immediately altar which, Non NAI D01111...e ss
sung by Messrs. DIONL &c. A number of
toasts 'reregister', and the company broke up aka
II o'clock, highly delighted with the pleasures
the day, and ihe liberality of the owners.
The Capital Prizes in the late Lottery went
tire'', among the Public—the Costradors did
get a single Capital ; and, out of the Fifteen Co
LAI Prises which the Scheme contained, Hiss+
and shared r tvE, at his Offices, Cornhill and CI
ing Cross.
'Co their immortal honour, our gallant Ye'oin,
have given an attention to militat y d'e:cipline,w
the cause of their country. The Corsican Csu,
is so COIISCIOUS of their spirited condnet, that it i
wonder lie is so very backward to try with them
British ground, the Firionr do Goer". ti
no reason why our volunteer heroes should nod
this Critical moment, direr* their attention to
Whrel of &twee, especially as she is so ttaiver
known to " favour the boll." In troth, th, re
description of msn who have a fairer claim to
Orte's special notice in the ensuing all-nnerei
tottery, than those patriotic Charaeters who so n
' tame forward, and who so perseveringly concuss
'gra:icy throiselves, to hod exemplary reap:La,
the common dinurber of the world. •

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