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HOUSE to cummeNS.

The SPEAK Elt informed the Huuse, that Ed-
w srd May, Ebq. Mtn had petitioned viola the re-
min tor • .wa easc' county Carricktarpuh on
the 17th .f lest, had arglefted attar into the
rope, I-cognizance- appointed by law, within the
tone ,irnited; of course, the order was dia.
e.

Mr 1-IU3KISNON moved for leave to bring is a
Rill t•i t Ciimmissinnerii finally to audit the
ll,•raek Mau. er G•,.er.l's ALcout.ts. Least WAS
p;ve soccordirgly File Bill was afterwards
brAug..: up, read a firat and ordered to be read
a ►econd Byte to-rnorww.

A pro .con from the Paymaster-General's Office,
ru-..sented sundry accnunts of ninnies issued to the
Army Age• ts, from the. ?sth of July,lBos, to the
45th of July, 11106, which was ordered to be laid on
the table.

IRISH ARMS
Mr. Hobkouse brought up the Report of die Irish
Arms Bill.

Mr. LONG then ptopored to add a clause, via.
That every peri.on who had ottricieJ a license to
keep Anne, And who should change his dwelling-
house, should, during the continuance of such li-
cent... !este nom. with the Clerk of the Peace for
the county, town, or place, of tl.e house to which he
is removed

Mr LUSHINGTON also moved a elansc to be
adettd, after the word • offence,' •" wht:e it
shall appear before the Magistrates, h..ture whom
such of is prosecuted, that the J.lay arise from
accidental circumstances, and n-t f'•nn wihul ne-
glee." These two elawes titre agreed tn, and Or-
dered to make part of the Bill, s‘ loch WAS ordered
to be lead a thii d tialr on ft i.fay .tt•:t.
The ATTOR EN ER %L moved for
leave to bring in a Bill to di,eloge the Estates of
General lle Lanery, late ll‘tr tck-Mes•cr-Ger.eral,
and which were vented in Trustees for tale, ft eon all
ela;m• On the part of the CriltVll.--Leave being
gitcui the Attorney-General site, ward, bring'.! v.,
the •ame, wh,.h w•ac read a first mire. and OfJel ed
to he toad a second tine on FriJ .v

Order of the 1),,y, for ta, tog into consider.
ation the Petition relative to the ,;.14.1.h Lleetion,
was, upon motion, discharged, and the same was or-
al, rid to be taken into c nsideratiun on the Ist of
S*ptember rev.
A Niesq..gc from the Lords statci, that their
had agreed ti t'.e Bill for vgulating the
of Justices of the Peace in tl.e counties of
hi i.i.rwserynd Surrey:

SirCHARLES POLE moved. " That Captin
Petition, complaining at prize-money being
with-holden, w!:ich was due to tit for the capture
of Chinsnor, in the year ISM. he referree to
a Committee. to confider the matter emit com-
plained of, end to report."
The CI-LINC.'ELI f.r:t rf the EXCHEQUER
said. he slid not see I. Parliament could take tip
this mea,nre, or intr•rpcse its interference. A great
rut of t,,e prize-money had Air,:ec*,y b,•e., sti
in censeciiienee of judr,nit: t having I.een i;h:Jir.ed
by the Engli,h ; he t!ierr:"are t'loneht
tint the fully efTett of t is Petition,
wt,„ij be to dtt,pr,..;. •4; ,iie :T .

'l'-•• rti,'!inn was I::cri stand nel;ati•.ed.
Mr. B 1814.1N1 morel 167 leave I) 61;461! in a
Bill for insuring c_ttsi,nt and dis?at, h in ti,e issue
of 1t :its ter Eled,,rt . r Mem`.er: to serve in
Parliament —Leave being Fir en, th: Bin was af-
terwards brouie.t up, read a Et •t time, aad ordered
to I* reai a second time on Friday
I.he Fnur Million and a Halt' hschequer
the Pn•e I luadred Thnusand l'untzds Irish V- tc cf
C edit i 30.1, le,t3 up by Me..st,.
te.vd to be read A it.

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In these parishes threngh whichthe easel was est.
After some =oversews weereem.l6. FULLER,
the §ECRETARY At WAR, sad the CHAN-
CELLOR of the ERCHRQUEA: elatteeorat
nekatived; lied the Rig *ad a third time and Parted.

PL'.Cf.S IN REVIRMO'N.

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Mr.))AN ICES (Chairman of the Conivnittee of
Finance) gave notice, that, in consequence o; what
had happened in another place. he should on Fri-
day next bring forward a motion en the susject of
a Resolution adopted in that House on the 1 ith of
March last. relative to the granting of Places in
Reversion. (A load cry of Hoar ! Hear
Mr. DENT postponed his motion relative to the
Election Regulating Bill until to-morrow.

MILITIA TRANSFER 81LE..•
The Order of the Day being read For the third
reading of the Militia Transfer Bill ; on the motion
that this Bill be now read a third time,

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Colonel STANLEY objected to the Bill, on the
ground that the Militia Establishment would be in-
jured by it. He wished to know of the Noble Lord
(Castlereagh) whether he had it in contemplation to
propose farther drafts and alterations in the Militia,
in order that Gentlemen who. like himself, had,
after much trouble and expense, brought their Mi-
litia Regiments to their present improved state,
might determine whether they should continue in,
or retire from. the service? He complained al,o
that in his Regiment, in consequence of the Bill now
pending, Officers of a Regular Regiment had been
already found tampering with his men. with the
offers of bounty, &c. and lie wished to know whe-
ther Government had given any such instructions to
the (Miters of the Regulars I
Lord CAS fLEREAGH said, he was glad that
the Hon. Gentleman give him the opportunity of
satisfying his mind upon these points. As to the
fiat onestion, whether Government meant to make
this present measure periodical ? He would answer,
No ; and for the best of reasons ; inch a periodical
enlisting from the Militia would materially inter-
fere with the permanent recruiting for the army.
As to any improper interference with the men under
the Him. Cotitiel's command, he lamented it, and
knew nothing of it; but, before the Hill had even
passed in one House, undoubtedly no order Iron
Government could have been issued on the ,u ifeet ;
certainly, nothing could be more uffensive than such
I an improper interfering, and such officers would
probably derive no advent tge wh server. because
the Regular Regiment into wh,ch the llilitia Regi-
ment (auppose of Laocasiire) would be dtatted,
will not, probabiy, be that particular regiment into
which they may have been tempted to enlist. He
assured Hon. Gentlemen conneaed with the Militia,
that every disposition would be shewa on the put
of Government, to check and prevent all such im-
proper interference.
Sir ROBERT WI LLI A NIS renewed his former
oh jearitot.s to toe measure, particularly as it would
injure the recruiting service ; but he thought he
perceived a disposition, on the part of His Majesty's
Present Ministers, to destroy both the military and
Unsocial, as well as political measures of their pre-
decessors.

General TARLITON defended the gill on ge-
neral grounds.
Mr. BANKES said, he shculd give his assent
to the measure, on account of the necessity
of the times, although he foresaw that it would
be attended with considerable inconveniencies.—
Still. however, he would adopt it. unless some
other measure could be substituted, le•s objec-
tionable. He lamented the fludluation of plans
which had taken place of late years. in our military
system. He was fearful Ciat the present measure
nould injure the Militia, and diet the system of
ballot would renew the evil of extraordinary Irigh
bounties, and that it would also affeet the regular
recruiting for the army. lle lamented also to find
that this was all that His Majesty's Ministers pin-
posed to bring forward in the present alatmin:; SoIll•
atinn of the country ; a measure which he feared
was totally inadequate to the exigence of the times.
Some other additional measure he thought essenti..
ally wanted, that would remove impediments to the
regular and progressive recruiting for the army. as
well as for training the p•ipulati:o of the country;
especially as from the late events of the war on the
Continent, the probability of a serious invasion of
this country was now considerably increased.
Lord FOLKESTONE was detr.rnined to resist
the Bill in eves). stage. The transfer ni the Militia
into the Line w,,nld be almost dcstruAive of the to..
ertii.ing system, and the ballot wail,: go :rs destroy
.11 the sources front whel,ce recruits would come
into the army.
General LOF WS defended the measure. The
h 4411, with the euemy was mote likely to lie fought
on Irish than on English ground, and he knew
ma•iy of the English Mil tia Officers who were un-
willing that their regietwits should volunteer thisit
services for Ireland ; Wlth:lUt a Bit
granting permission to the Mi'itiamen to enter the
Line, the services of these men would be locked up
who were desirous of serving their country, and
they would alto be deprived of great benefit to
themselves fr. en Chelsea.

Mr. WIN justified the opposition which
himself and his friends made last high against the
third reading of the Bill. It had been said, that
no new ohjellioas could now be brought for ward ;
btit he believed it it were not for the lateness of the
Sessi m, and the absence of many G,•itlemen.
in the country. that IN, &ions to the measure would
standing dis'i, on which Honourable Nlem-
b..ns wi jht, from time to time, come and carve out
fa themselves. Ai that for a considerable length
of time. He did not believe th;s measure would add
to the cifedive strength of the country, nor compen-
s us. ;or the 1.1.3 sustained by dismantling the Mi.
lola. I h re the ii mourable Gentleman went on at
considerable length into a defence, and stated the
superior a.lis 'wages of his new recruiting system
over the pteient measure. The recruiting system,
o.iah was rapidly progressive, together with the
cited; of the training ea. would, in his opinion, de-
cidedly outweigh the advantages expeaed by the
plan of the NoLle loc. The plan be had
brought forward in the last session was not a
jib in any possible view of it; but from the
bNitiniug to the end was a reduction of expense.
li tying taken a further comparative view of the
measures of the late and present Administration, he
considered the measures of the former not at all
lessansJ in the public estimation by the measures el

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the latter. The apology frr the preunt measure
was the exigency of the times, the preseu emer-
gency t bat he would ask what was the psese.f,
inszerg -ney ? Why the late triumphs of &Inas? trte ;
and this, forsooth, was an event which t-ey sr••r
not prepared for, and which their great 'soli:feel
sagacity could not fin esee ; they were taken by sot-
prise as it were, like a man walking in p!r4.t.le
grounds, who comes suddenly upon a deep trench,
commonly termed a he-be, and is stopped s' or• in
his progress ; or like a man in the dark coming to
a stop which he does nut expel; he calls tie
watch, frightened at his situation ; the e-are' min
springs his rattle, the alarm is spread; and flan it vs
plurder the Militia t, .me..t this emereenev of which
they never dreamt before. Upon the whole of ti is
je4l, and drawing a comparison between the Mile•
Lary Systems of the last Sessions and th,se of t
present, he would die contented, like the famous
italiah musician, who had a favourite pi..ee rd
music inscribed upon his tomb-stone, or like the
celebrated Dutch mathematician, who had a won-
derful calculation ;ascribed upon his, to hare the
Military Plans of the last Se ions inscribed upon
his own rimb-stone. He lamented the measures er
that Session, horn the strongest conviSion of tht.r
utility to the country, and concluded by again le-
pealing his solemn. protest against this mtasu, e.
The question being loudly riled for from all
parts of the House, strangers were ordered to
withdraw, and after some Akerv;itions against the
Bill (we understand) by Colonel FKANKLAND,
the House divided, when the numbers appeared
V.lr the third reedmi - 76
Against It • . 59
Majority Gir the dtirsl rea•ting - 57

Some time elapse) before the strangers were
again 'dawned, and we then found Lord CASTLE-
REAGH on his legs, proposing several Clauses to
the BM, by way of riders. _

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These Clauses provided that onti-half of the fine
levied should go to the parish to enable the parish
to provide a Substitute. and the other to the receipt
of His Majesty's Exchequer; that Special Con.
stables should not be exempted from the opera-
tions of this Act; end that returns should be made
of the number of individuals ballotted in the sub-
divisions, who served in person, who procured Sub-
stitutes. At. At.

Their several Clams were brought up, read, and
agreed, to committed and reported without any
opposition. and ordered to be made riders to the
Bill.

Mr. WILBERFORCE theta rem to propose
Clause, increasing the ;Howson to individjals
serving in person, or procuring substitutes, whose
property did not amount to 5001. from one-half
(bring the present allowance) to tbree•fourths.
This Clause he grounded upon the particular
hardships of this measure upon the great body of
the lower orders of the people.
Lord CASTLEREAGH, professing every respell
and deference for the quarter from which this clause
originated, and the motives of the Honourable Gen-
tleman who proposed it, had at the same time a
rrong doubt, whether it would not go a great way
to shake the fundamental principles upon which the
Militia of the country now stood. Since the year
1762, the wisdom of Parliament had thought fit to
continue this clause as it new was, and he was ra-
ther inclined to think the clause proposed by his
Hon. Friend (Mr. Wilberforce) would rather tend
t. make it an assessment, and instead of holding
oust an inducement to the individual to serve in
pers:,n, (which was the principal (Net of the mea-
sure), it would have the contrary effect.
Mr. WI LBERI:ORCE, in explanation, said, tbat
however anxious he might be to lighten the borden
of this measure upon the lower classes of the people,
he did not mean to press the clause against the
better judgment of the House,
Mr. HENRY Tito RN FON thought this clause
took away a great part of the ohleetions he had to
the measure it:elt, because the measure itself pressed
hard upon the lower orders cf the people; at the
same time he det.lared, ne was as much as any man,
inclined to hold up the sioarine of personal service.
The que,tion was then pus, and the clause nega-
tived without a division.

Oa tile q test inn for pas.ing the Bill,
Mr. PULE CAREW urged the propriety of
forming. a local hfilitia, not to he called om except
in case, of imminent danger. With this Milnia he
shoald like t see atnalgama•ed as great a port:on
at possibl.: of our V. lu f Ice. He should wish
Cie setsict s of the regular Militia to be extended to
.11 paits'of the empire. Wail these provisions we
should be safe against any possible invasion. Not-
withstanding the ye' y general erection of fortifica.,
ri :ns, there must be many exposed ponts: there
:.ould be depots of arms in cemral situations, in
which a tiained population would find a rall)ing
point. The enemy, if he could asssil ta, would
bring such a force as would require all means of
defence.

Lord CAS TLEREAGH said, it was the fixed
determination of His Majesty's Government to turn
their attention to the formation of a large local
vithich was the Mesas re most essential to
the permanent security of the country. He also
omised attention to the formation of central
depots With a view to this objett, odder the able
administration of Lord Chatham, at the head of
the ordnance, a central Jepod had been formed in
NorthAroptonshire, from which great facilities to
the military services of the country had been ex-
perienc-d. In that Noble Lord's administrations
a wise system of defensive fortification had bees
adopted in Ireland. as well as in England.
Mr. SIIER WAN said, he had great satisfaction
in twaring that it Was intended to apply the atten-
tion of Government to the amelioration of the Mi-
litia. lfe hoped His Majesty's Government would
at the same time turn their attention to the means
of rendering the Ballot less oppressive upon the
lower orders of the Community.
The question was then put, and the Bill read a
third time and passed.
Mr. SHERII)AN, in consideration of the third
reading of the Irish Arms Bill, and other important
business, fixed for Friday neat, particularly the no-
tice given by an Honourable Member, ( Mr. Bankes).
with a view to preventing the granting of offices in
reversion, postponed his notice of a Motion on the
State o. Ireland, which now stood for that day, till
Monday.
The Irish Militia Volume' ring Bill, the Smug-

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A-1g Prever.tinn Pill, tb: 9•!k buty and Dr ~Nbi,k
611, ti; it it DrAwbAck 8.11, vim sesAiddy
res 1 4 third t•'ar. and ',Asstd.
The other Orde►s of :he D 47 were t!-ea di.postd
of, and al:: !louse adjourned.

1 C•edit Ditl, were severally brruitt:t up by Me..sr:.
Jiuski%son and Fester, and ordered t 4, be read 1 se•
er.T.d time mantel-row.
t) .t the rarriou for the third read.i.g of ti.,e Mai-
ler,' Can .1 LEP—
A. LI; iIINGTON moved the 1-,ettiot: cf 4
eae.e in favour tel the a iglus GI the t logy to tithes