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lowan ee, the Have men, in thorteeemincond beam to have mode
the same to thlt Dolts of Nod lb tio of Suiset;
Oe thought f ' .
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(Hear. hear.) __ _ the us right to interfere-in
the education of the son; nor to : to the Duke how lie should
etheennedea shikires. Siker, bear, and laughter.) Ho rhoteklayetei
for the original resolution.
Ste 01:0ROS ROBE mode some obaereltions relative to the
personal chats/nu of the Duke of Ceimbeeland, bat his sentences
were ao imperfectly heard In the gallery that we could not collect
even the tenor of them. We understood him to speak highly of '
his Royal Highness's character both as a gentleman and as a pa- I
writ; and "the Right Hon. Baronet atromly recommended the''
House not no adopt a course that would have a tendency to ester-
rate the minds of the Royal Parents, or excite an acerbity which
might ultimately sheen half towards the child.
hie WM. CONGREVE said he had had an opportunity of see-
ing the Royal Duke within the last two months, and he found that
, his Royal Highness was perticularly, punctual in the discharge of
his debts ink the place where ite was residing. He should support
the original Resolution.
Mr. CHRISTOPHER SMITH was one of those who coon.
dered the Duke to have been very Mused, and that he had been
driven from his native land by serious auefinoendOes. He am-
ceived It would be very ungenerous of this Hingee to interfere with
the educatioe of his Royal Highness's sop. The vote should have
his nem support.
Air. PEEL said, he wse quite sure nothing could be more un-
pleasant to this House than to enter into the discussions which had
unfortunately been brought forward, and he should therefore, in
the few words he had to say, avoid all those topics which he thought
had "nothing- whatever to do with the real question before the
House. He should not concur in the Resolution of his Right
lionourable Friend, for the reason •which an ,Honourable Member
had assigned, namely, because it wee a cure of an act of injus-
tice ; but he should do it on the ground that there was such
a change in circumstances, that in agreeing to this vote, even if the
Vouse was tight on the two former occasions, he conceived there
was no inamstateiny whatever. The lion. and learned Gentle-
man opposite (Dr. Lushington) had slid that the nisestioess 'or the
House to consider were—host, whether there was a secessity for the
grant ? and next, what was the best way in which that grant
could be made? This was a Perfectly fair way to put the
qsawasa. The Honourable Member fir Montrow had said that
Flawe was bound to edueste his own children, and that he
se live is such a way as to be able to do so. That WAS
iety time is paws life; but ha (Mr. Peel) thought there
lair $ eery vest_ aelllmiliea to be made when the child to be
40aleael was a MIMI& as eaaldeied that they had all an interest
he Ili lillistOtilla II A rassame pf the Royal Family, and that the
twee therein INNd to assist in providing for that education.
Mg OM I• 1118618.“ what Was adequate to enable the pa-
infillftweieetiellellit feet ledieidual, it was a question which did net
lahed! elf dieleasholhila Twelve thousand pounds might in one
Ileileinteellilleets la easeeher twenty thus led pounds might
.talks!". be
16616(°"saabie11ttrieeltoche3asiem
of blecrlMtro. Itl,unlniiiset!
"mar air
al tiseetlon, 'and yet that it should require
lOW to WEE of as Duke of Cumberland educating his son,
he (Ur. Ps) was sa washer there was not a material difference
bore= dim Okada 4 a lomof widow who had to provide for the
shadow 4 a nand that of a Royal Duke who had to
dlseste is teat and Learned Gentleman (Dr. Lush.
131.819) Nile ..,_ _ not the Duke come and reside in this
country? • CNOCIllei) thought that some expressions which
had failen hen tlallthik and. Learned Gentleman himself would
be quite Illailin W his Royal (littleness to remain abroad ;
and heart derails AO lam were wirier the Hon. and Learned
Gent lew demewslise that were made on a former occa-
sion aim* eif 41mt Date, there would appear to be a
very bile lasi Highness should not return
to this austryilliiir why
said that although the pledge of
his Rlielltalasseasble "rime la, Chancellor of the Exchequer)
wee ea Eisloted. that the edacation of the young Prince
watiteerbig kW ' la sake be in Ecgland, yet that the
tenor 4 his sisseisamas mat a so listing a nature as to remove
the fears that a Man administration might swerve from that
pledge. He a stale apprehension, and did not think it at
all u Vol the House should, In a case like this, require
.WWW=e,:siitiscom anainintbtan
enacting
pledge ofn a..ntlinister. If', thetre-
NdssCHteseh,ew ac'e
tiongeptantreluiCeZniettepwresorstgasthhaet
the pat was map apoe the condition that this child ahead be
edweesedielaiellea, himselt have not theyeast objection.
at air eismated the aame oot to insist upon it that the father
shesktlit *plea of ell influence or control over his son. Don't
ewitteate sheyys.llsltljj rain. in a manner that shall teach him or the
ter that the father was unworthy to euperin.
171=adataidas. The King of England had a right to interfere
mid sapithwead la the education of the Branches of the Royal
lama,) bat he could not think it prudent or wise that a prince who
el &be the future King of this country, should brttlucated in a
esaaese thee implied the father to be unworttfy of super-
Interarkkag the bringing up of the 'son, and that would in
east deprive the sort of all parental care and guardianship.
H. would sit &An with the earnest hope that the House would
Snag to the proposition of his Right Hon. Friend, only with the
condition that some valid security by Act of Parliament should be
given that the education of the young Prince of Cumberland should
be iodate country, over whose destinies he may hereafter be called
0
Mom /Me. CALHAAI- offered sonde observations, which were in.
the pllary, andinulreapted by fsetrasnt cries of—
. pa
' r. BROUGHAM considered thiga most 'painful question to
diesma, but for that reason he conceived that the sooner the House
eamaris a tisedelem a Oen it the better. Hewes willing to concede
that lamest bleb fin trance to secure the education of the young
Priam of Oarnbarland in England. Admitting this, however, he
would refer to the principles upon *hid] he opposed the grant;
first adverting to a sarcastic obseiration which had fallen front a
Right Hon. Gentleman opposite (31r. Secretar'y Peel). It had
been said that it was inconsistent for gentlemen professing libeeil
principles to propose to interfere with a father in the education of
his own child. Now, in justice to the consistency of those gentle-
men who professed and acted too upon liberal principles, lie (Mr,
Brougham) would say, that no Aletriber of that /louse objected to
a father educating his own child, if that father was willing to pay
the expenses of the child's education team his own pocket. Btu
!when, the public were called upon to supply the money for his vitt-
elation, that House, as guardian of the public purse, should inquire
into the circumstances under which the grant was called for. So
, much for the terms upon which the gram was proposed to be given.
I fie (Mr. Brougham) objected to it upon principle, and would vote
I against it altogether. He should be glad to have heard any pre-
cedents quoted in support of such a grant. He professed himself
ignorant of the precedents which applied. lie should have been
very glad to hear any precedents which may exist brought forward,
more especially as it was likely that we should heir of many
more similar applicatiOns in other cases. If thin proceeding should
be laid down as a precedent, it would go to support the principle,
that as often an any Prince or Princess is born to any of the many
Princes and Princesses of the Royal blood, the House of Commie,
should be obliged to grant 6,0001. pet ann. for the education of these
.scions of the Royal stock, as soon as they arrived at an age to be
educated. The only precedent whieh he,remembered bearing on
the case, was one that he should incline to follow, because of the '
eminent virtues of the individual more immediately interested in it.
He was not inclined to fiat err royalty, but when he mentioned the
Duke of Gloucester, he named an illustrious individual who was
universaly respected. His Royal Highness had never involved
himself in pecuniary embarrassments, and for this reason lie
was willing to look to his case as a precedent. But what did
the precedent in his Royal Highness's case prove? When
the tether of his Royal Highness (the late Duke of Glou-
cester) had a provision made, it was perspectively, and was
not to operate till after the decease of the late Duke. This
weir the precedent which bore upon the CAW ; but were we
now to turn over a new leaf? Is it now laid down as a principle,
that after 18,000/. per annum had been granted to the father, he sidea '
incidents, such as regiments and other offices, a grant of 6,000/.
per year ahould be added to the income of that father, during his
life, for the education of his son. He understood the case of
the Duchess of Kent was introduced as a precedent; but this,
in point of fact, was part and parcel cf the present measure. Now,
the Duchess of Kent, living in her high station, had 6,00 d.
a-year' with which, no doubt, it might be difficult to sup-
port her rank. However, much to her credit, the Duchess of
Kent, with the assistance of Prince Leopold, her brother, con-
trived to live within her limited income, and made no application
for an increase. He did not believe the Duchess of Kent or Prince
Leopold were desirous that such a ro pposition shOuld be made,'
and if %Vcould
as so, any thing be mitre unjust than to allow it to
go forth to the public that they are in the same situation with the
Duke of Cumberland, who applies for the grant.
An /lon. MEM BER from the Treasury Bench observed, that
the Duke of Cumberland did not apply.
Mr. BROUGHAM resumed—if the Duke of Cumberland did
not apply, there could tee no doubt that he assented to the applies-
non, but the Duchess of Kent and Prince Leopold did not assent
to the application. Because the active friends of the Duke of
Cumberland assented to such a proposition the Duchess of Kent in
to be brought in, and mixed up with his Royal Highness.
The Duchess of Kent had only 6,0001 per annum, the Duke of
Cumberland 19,0001. ; therefore, because the Duke asks foe an
augmentation to his income of 19,0001. and the Duchess of Kent
deer nat ask for any augmentation of her 6,000/. therefore, he was
called upon to vote the public money to Inc Duke of Cumberland
and the Duchess of Kent. He (Mr. Brougham) was prepared to
vote against the grant altogether. It was au unnecessary abuse of
the confidence which was largely extended to that House, on all oc.
casions where provision was to be made for the Royal Family.
Prince Leopold, by the measure before the House, is indirectly at.
tacked for not supporting his niece; but the fact should be
known, that Prince Leopold does not object to support
his niece. These were painful subjects, and he would pass
over them as lightly as possible. He would willingly ad-
mit that this question had nothing to do with popularity. '
-if the grant was made it mast be made to support the
rank and station of die individual, and not-because of the -private
claims of that individual. Until the individuals were publicly
stigmatised, which was not the case in any instant:. the House was
bound to consider the questions as betwesn A and B, and think
nothing of popularity. He could not forget that the Rouse had
before refused to give the Duke of Cumberland 6,000/. a year. This
was the decision of the House ; he did not argue that it was right
or wrong, but he would refuse to grant indirectly what was
refused when a direct application was mule. If Ministers now.
came and asked the House to abet that opinion, he should be in.
dined to entertain such a proposition ; but whilst the opinion re-
mained without being rescinded, he could never consent to have
it overthrown by an Indirect measure. As to the propriety of in-
crfering with the mode of education which a father may adopt for