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littiegatpepfk ewe in the uci.of
keg,
.10th' boll 'cartridge. By . _ orders that
arguitise, he knew nut, but he contended that it wss
it Fugal measure ; for, even the Riot Act,
. ts it «ea, only inothoined rhr apprehecr
agie,p,rimiestl, sod it certainly was • Strange course
al pratapinag In .1611 people by way of facilitating
their apprehension. They afterwards seised upon
.ainiar,individital, named VViis. Crosby, a joiner by
vot4e. ohs is. committed to gaol by Mr. Foists.,
entit.elusrgo of, assouli, at the instance of aiiiither
Nlqgioltade,, l'iiis poor 111;.11 was afterwards re-
ceiegtineal la terrors on a charge of felony, end
sleedituiogimal for three mouths to the getli. Au-
gust's of ultick time he rat, discharged with-
unkbra. legal pr,oceos. Ile should perhaps ;be
told, that tharounn inighl have bitreinetiy by .es
,metioa ;forAt4caoges against the.llilaguiroties, Of
.thikt.iteplyperfroly aware; but he mentioned Op .
'circumstance as illustrative of the character 4f, the ,
tebtie•ttintalyttont: • The 10n/ Menther- ObtL.ll"7 !
.redid igiv.darclaint any motives in bringing tiff I
_subject 4sefore,the..flatutir bet a istiete:Arif paidje;
..,riptt.....:l;nt... tint day foOsorin the ':0044...... . r-ip r•• of, the infonsty. " that nis4alure leaving. Igligskito .1
excite. the People to any tumult or diegrlittie,eots.l
dutt. tigg.legistretes applied forlairrism it vivid-
. ry.,,,ball,oo4llsers in raftstnaail of tio itititoly
rekseitirspiehrica. es they could' net .joitify it
10241tetrasouggi*f ;duty. fir . contended that the
blagii.trotoii!jrauld not hove bren.igurgout. of the
impropriety ,it sheie, Ls A for the jealousy all
tzlir
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,iaigo: - ootoriof
lohlrus.uheotrdll eq,.'.llnCe.
.4Ftilt seioisscast afiliirt
*Welt .af Me.
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altempt.in
liticianat
system.
..t and thet
pesseeeded at some}
preference given
• heretofore tai
• -vv. Thd
THIS one
permanently rs
wLirs betaero
• *were tod.
.41 lithos
lent to d. 4
schided•by
freenieo of
tho
Parlia.
preitelited
Ntered us
to- the
matter I
Candidate for
4agistrates,
civil power
woe, 4i. queotet ,y inadequate
to the prapervetion of the peace that.the Mayor'
hiosielf wasAreated with coniemPt and disrespect,
and; •as he'p*vird ini part by a•letier which he held
,„..,
in his haod.frotn. a very reipectahle person in.
Carlisle..setterptelectorts in his interest had beets so
alarmed:pi* riot Which .pretailetl, as to be
intimidated 'frogs *Ong to pall, and were actually.
•cotopelled to poittponotherierdivessidivir tight till.
. a more pegeesblitAtay should occur. He opposed
the matiogh: •
Sir j.lllCOClLlnoilku larneatiki that, from the on-
:`'..fortussitte situation.sir the benches behind him, he
"'died caught but, its„eety few observations from the'
whole speech, of the Hon.-Baronet. He lamented
,this the morel 'became, from the few observations.
n •
"which he did hearr.sod to which he thought it 0r....
7i.':,cesbari.tooffes •.ripk, he conceived thut the speech.
I 4of the &impel , to which he had !airily.,
..,, though angiiinily'lti4eued. wag well irort hy. oT the
tearing. nntir lionsideretion of the House. fiot if
to thole firw.4rosauttli• which had reached him the
ease if • n...Bstronet wss continued, said that
core elteuld be divined sufficient to warrant the att-
.:: terferesice if the' military it, the conduct of an elec-
tion for a Stem* of Parliament, the froose must
iimmethately repeal those lam, by which elections
. were cistsduCted,ssid which gave the protection of '
electioureriug rights entirely to the Civil Magis-
trates 'and authorities, and enact other laws which
should have theeffect of securing the interposition of
the ruiliiarj in all contests to protect the freedom of
ailectiou. They Omit transfer the confidence which the
coussitg tiOn direr:tad thetia to place in the magisterial
. authoritw!, and stibstitute thee military fur the pr'e:s.
setvatioti of the people's What was the
stivenivit of the flouOurahle Baronet? That there
at Carfole ou „the day in question an out-
rageous inmenbled. It was well known that
. with respect *contested elections there were two
sasteuuk of listguage generally used. One watt pe-
amber to,the.iuccessful, the other to the unsuecess.
,fop candidate. There was little 'difference its tliao
argnifiCiatioof their separate vocabularies tai
,one who,lu iris conversant with their uses, and owlet-
,iitooll exact oecusion to glitch they Were sis:
was called an outrageous mob' by
srie Hcpontafile Baronet would be described:.inost •
probably, .by his paciriasfol opisouent, >yl o,spirited
display of the rep tug energies of 1118 'People of

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presence
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or establioli a system of military protection fur the
defence oldie Consoitutiors, and to preserve the free.
diem of elections. It had been said that there inios.no
legal.ueceseity for marching the troops out of the
co bider ofCarlitiltr; but rtes it to be inferred that those
troops Mere stationed there to !meditate their ere-
fulness, should •they be called upon during a time
of elecriosi ? Certeirsly not. To. introduce them
from the•neighborring towns or farts could only be
justifieil oti the strongest ne,getony. as it was strictly
forbidden by law. Not not, did !fie Conant Wino
°wise such au interferences but all the principles
wf civil liberty, as explained in the law of
were opposed to it.' lhe very clause in the.Aet of
Pittliatient, •whi'cli ?Wiled the troops to remain
je ,a garrisoned town dwing the time .of elec-
tions, was set iu opposition to it. The only
utaisoir for alleureog 'mach a clitiiie was, -that as
itmt. races to allow his Mijesty powers to
ilniutultarldeffilfillat touts and girrisons of Etti-
1414$1ter itellitem feu eyesto sudisoger Ilse right
tiketielb generailly, by °suffering the milder, foetrUi
stualnihsi•ioe their }indention to .remain within the'
walls daring the time of elections. What would
ilte *prude conelusion lead to'? Must they not
• give the same pninectiosi .to all other pieces of Po-
, peat repeesentation ? Coaki. they }iesteet Catliade,e
Aug. teava•Wertueisister and Southwark exposedseg
ail die &ras( uniinersi ?: C.eld they leave Liver-)
:pot ehd -Bristol undefended, while they garrieonee
Narlislt to •preitivt the public peace end the right;
ielegt* t. To inteod acre the miluery .wit boot;
autetwielipbseutuid. natrageoue darip,r, was mainsail
iheireowy cisme of •the Act which eaubled the
• : • to taN upon the mditaty for their sup=
Lfar ea he: had heart! the case dated 'en
tat
and perceiving no material 6vistrodiew
• tweinateineaste, it teemed to.hiaeolhat
. was a case made out which had nen -batesimill4
atly explained, and which reinaiiied as yes titt-
existradieted. and made it binding on the House to
seed the Pttition Write a Committee •te be inciter-
tots. . .
• -•Lord CASILIIEAGII defended the conduct of
Ifitioirrouneut and the military on the ',ensiles); 'Sit
John Byng had dote: every thing di his pomp. to
•prevent the presence of the pUhrory. Istria& sent
the etaialrt outwfiovrti, end dieected the flee tam- ,
panies of "Infrotry to be confined withio' their bile-
' racks during the boars •of polling,except. they
should be calted-for by the civil power'. He rpm-
!tended that the law allowed, and the Houle sane.
Boned the of the military iu eases
lions riot; In the cise before the Houeethe Offi-
eery hid strictly conformed to their duty. 'Conii-
detabledistutbance: had taken place after the hour
~e( polling. Which. as he underage''', was tenhinit.
led by the appearance of the military. 'The
,:eavalry had been applied to by no less than
'three Magistrates. The Comonsindiog-offieer re-
fund to comply with the request sent MM. mi.
;lees it was sanctioned by the Mayor. The
'Mayor refused his sanction, and the tumult was
'appeased without them. He apprehended. that '
'they did not disagree as to the feet that there Was
'lltconsiderable degree of noting.—•(s' No rioting at
ill." by Mr. Jamey.] —(Hear, hear, and laughter.)
"e
--There might be some question of privilege
iu-
'vtifred. but certainly thew was no. inisecuduct
could be charged either on the Goirersousentoir the'
military, or the (Magistrates. No emit .eould sup=t4
pose that the military were introdiiced to overawe
the electors; if it were so. they would not have
been absent at the time of polling. With all pro-
per jeailousy for their privileges, he coliceived that
there Wee no case fur the House to go into, and as
,:te the facts which had beets viated, the House was
Net the best jury in the world to try the went, of
`them. .
w", Lord •Le vrttnut detailed the circumstances of
4 .
. The riot, and said, lie believed that a more tualig-
`tient one had newer been witnessed. He defended
Nese conduct of the singistrecy, end concluded by
imoviug the previous question.
Mr. Cuawitit called on the House not to view
this as a party que.tion, but oil its real fair grounds-
: of howl far it was likely to affect all popular cite-
Oasis. His Hon. Friend had good reason fur not
'twinging forward the subject before. Had lie dune
tit shortly after the cireunistailets had transpired, lie
would hate been suspected of acting limn motives
of hostility. He (Mr. Curwen) very much cities.
tioned the motives of the three alagistrates iu act-
lug
as they had dune. Al to the Mayor, lie knew
that at the preceding election that officer was by no
means indispered to call pot tl:e unlitery. He (Mr.
Curwen) found it necessary to protest aguinat such
ass unconstitutional infringement of the right of
election.. The Mayor afierivaids found that his
mind had been improperly influenced by the re-
- 'Stela of those who required him to call out the mi-
litary, and this had operated with hint as r caution
against bring betra)ed lido similar conduct at the
last election. All that hail taken Place was no more
'than r slight.ebultition el popular feeling. He call-
: fed on those olio drilled this to die', if sine pint of
*sod hid been spilt in the. scuffle. Was there as
'iliac!' blood lo'st as Wiinld ooze from the prick of a
pin ? Not nun. individual lied been convicted of
Wiling. Had any been prosecuted fur that offence ?
feloise. There was a tingle ii,dieidital who had suf-
unjust imPriauntnent, and be wits got lid of by

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obstruciitto. eery
questioned whether any. of, the acts complained of,
such us the tearing of flies, aMounted to airy thing
more than an ebullition of popular feeling. In any
case, he thought that the presence of the Military
at an election, required the pr ,of of strong cir-
vainstinces to justify. His mind was considerably
relieved by being able to remind lint House ur the
opinion esfrossed by that House on a similar occa-
sion which had formerly come under their considera-
tion. It his after the Westminster election of
1741. The sitting Member. complained to the
House that the military had surrounded the hum.
ings by order of the civil officers. ‘Vitnesses were
called to prove that theMembera bad been insult-
ed by the mull, and that. the electors were obstruct-
ed in their way to the pdff by the inob, and a great
variety of injuries which had iseerissilVred- were prov-
ed. The House decided. that the hustings had been
eiarrounded by soldiers, headed by officers in a rat&
tory manner, that the right of election bad been
infringed,•arrd they come to the revelation, that
this was a high infringement of the liberty of the
subject, a tnauifest violation of the freedom of
election; and offence steinst the tarsi of the land and
the priviliges of Parliament. The offead,rs were
called to the bar of the House, and the opinion of)
• thelloure was declared to them by Mr. Speaker One-
low in languege which ought newer to-be forgotten.
-Fie begged leave to read a short extract from the
Aired'. the. whole _of which was. worthy of eariust
perusal.—('' Head the whole," from meioses parts!
.41 the lioirse.)—The. speech
.serqt no, after statitig.
.the offence charged, and the temptation to which!
,the House bad come. to iney thst. re-war iMpossible.
if the offenders did .1)11( cousideelhe terms of the
,resplation, .that they should Mit Teel in their breasts'
..the .deepest sorrow and regrstlit thit which . they
'teed done, which, if sot comastotelispoo _as is-had
• been, might have given the trust daugerOus wound
to the. freedom of the sphjectand the 'safety of the
constitution. That the Howse was supposed by
the constitution to he freely atliosett, on which re-
count the wisdom of -their ancestors had providtd
that soldiers should not be preaeut in towns where
elet4lans were. to take piece., Rut that they (the
Oren-dem) bad end;ngered this wise and wholesome
provision, mid had aetsp example. which. bas fee the
interference of the He se, would gradually lead the
*ay to the introduftiou of the military on the
most specious and. wordy
,metences. Ile (Mr.
. Wynn) caufrated that he should be ashamed to
add oar word to. the observations contained in that.
memorable 'speech, the sentiments of which ought
to be adopted as the rule of that Hour. Tire lir-
terference of the prilitary ought to be held legally
wrong, and-oily to be justified by circumstances
-proved to have been of the strongest necessity. On
that grouud (though he war riot prepared to say
that the come !Wed could trot be met and fully
answered), and as it did appear to him that there
was enough in tire circumstances, if -nut properly
justified, to cull for intjuify, be would support the
raisins, motion.
Mr. BecIETT admitted the necessity of protect.
lag the right of election ; put he contended for the
;Mire of the military on extraordinary occasions of
•
need, even ire places where elections were carrying
or. This. however, was net a case wherein it was
oumpleined that the military interfered during the
lime of election. It was on several affidavits that
the disturbance took place, and the military were
called its after the hottra for polling were terminal-
ed.—l" No! Nor from Me Opposition Benches.)
—Four o'clock was the hour stated its the
Petition, from which he had a right to infer that
the polling for that day had concluded. The
• qtyrolion for the Home to eunarder was, first.
Had the conduct of the Magistrates been blame-
able ? If so, secondly, Would the House inter-
fere 1 It had been assumed list there was no neat.
He reminded the Reuse that a run might be ope-
rated by a very few perilous. But what was the
proof ? The Magistrates had heel' induced to read
the Riot Act three limes. It was read once—it
was reed a second time--eauti,_ nails, it was
read the third time. Did the House consider
that after the Riot Act was read only once, that all
who neglected to dispense were guilty of felony?
And could there he any very strong objection to
calling ou the military to assist its apprehending
promos chargeable with felony. If any injury had
been sustained. was there no other remedy titan
such as the House could ifford ? The Court of
King's Bench was the proper place to apply in.
The Magistrates might have a criminal inform*.
firm filed against theist. If the lion. Member had
been governed by better feeling, be would riot,
*fee the Line of so much time, have brought this
motion forward.

Mr. WYNN explained.
Mr. CALCRAFT said, that ever since he had held
a seat in that House, he was sorry to say that he
had never seen a question deeply affecting the pri-
vileges of the House so treated; lie was sorry to
say that he never saw the Honourable Gentlemen
support the dignity of the House on any such ques-
tion ; he was sorry that any one should be so lust
to the love of liberty and the dearest privileges of
Englishmen, as he found the Honourable Gen-
tleman to be 011 his own *hewing. He deeply re-
gretted it. What were the miaow urged by the

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conduct. 'That wits the reopon-
sibility which they had incurred. He did not say
that their conduct could not be justified ; but
the House could not lie justified without demand-
ing inquiry. It was in vain to talk on such a .ob-
ject. Had the Hon. Gentleman heard the speech
of Mr. Speaker .Onslow when it was read ? Did he,
Inur it ? If he didhe must be Convinced thatetlie
House was bound to i:iquire into the realism" why
the military hail been introduced at an election,
if no other cirmissonice had been stated. )f the
Esc's, when they should come to be heard, could
justify the Magistrates, they would be iseqnitted.
But tooth's/1g could justify the House in neglecting
to inquire into the facts.
Mr. Bottum required to know on what Both()-
; rity the Hors. Gentleman (Mr. Beckett) ventured
to make his statement respecting the introduction
of the military at Nottingham ?
Mr. BECLEIT'P answer seemed to create some
Inirtkranotti the Opposition Members ; hut it was,
us well as his original observation to which the•pre-
sent conversation related, inaudible in the gallery.
Mr. G.-.lszntrarrs4id • few words in answer to
on observation of the Noble (Lord Luwthei) op-
posite.
Lord LOWTHER replied with some warmth.
The 'SPEAKER interposed, and put it to the
House and the Hon. Member' if it would not be
better to let the conversation drop.
listussrr and Lord Lowraza mutually
enplaioed.
Lord CAITLEUAGH said, that though he did •not
coneeive that threw WIN city question of ptivilege
involved itrthe ease, yeti as there're's' a doubt that
there might be, the best 'way-Would he perhaps to
mold the whole subject to the consideration of •
Comdfittee ; and he was certain that no one would
'feel tutor strougUyinfavour of that course than his
Noble Friend, Lord towther.
Sir•J•lllite Oakum* laid he was sure that the
Msgitprrea,, who were moat respectable persons,
were quite anxious for inquiry.
Mr..J•stas would not reply after the able
speeches of the Members for Wareham and Moat.
gemety.
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original Mition ilsoa carried sailboat
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- PRICE Of 13111EAD.
Mr. Hansom, rose, in pursuance of a notice he
had given, to !MVP for a Committee to take into
consideration the 59th of George 111. for regule-
ilg the sale of bread. He should have wished it
41iid fallen into abler. hands; however, he should
iitleosour to ler, as clearly as be could, before the
House a few of the facts on which he rested his
motion. The House must be aware that bread had
become almost universally the food of the people
t-pflEligland. Two Mods at lea-t of the people
aisadest•their principal food. It is the best food
that they can now procure. It therefore behoved
the House to see that this article was supplied on
the cheapest terms, and with just measurer. The
' law, as it stood* at present, is, in point of fact,
nugatory. and therefore pernicious. For the peo-
ple, supposing that the weights are regulated by
law, neglect taking the necessary precautions.
.1u order to inform himself lie had referred to the
' law of the case for the last 555 years. and he hoped
• tilt Howe would take his word for the statements
he was about to make. His object was to point
out the defect of the law as it now stands. Some
are of opinion that we should not legislate at all ;
others dispute about the particular mode. He would
tint take upon decide which was the prefer-
able mode. The 59th Geo. 111. enacts, that no baker
or seller of bread snook: be responsible for the weight
of his bread, unless weighed before a Magistrate.
Thervil consequences of this Act must appear quite
evident. In the extensive county of Norfolk, with
which lie was acquainted, he could enumerate about
forty persons that had been convicted of false
weights, but not one since. In Devonshire it was
also experienced. In Staffordshire the inconve-
nience was sensibly felt, and lie called on the lion.
Member fur that county to corroborate his state-
ment. If he had made out to the satisfaction of
the House that a grievance existed, and should suc-
ceed iu obtaining a Committee to inquire into it,
his purpose was effected ; he should, therefore,
conclude with moving—

" That a Committee be appointed to take into confiders.
Iron the Act &St George 111. for regulating the stak and
making of bread, with a view to repeal the same."

Mr.l.trrtErott felt great pleasure in corrohoret-
ing the staientriit which had been just made. He
was aware of the difficulty of giving universal sa-
tisfaction to the public on that question. He him-
self thought that unrest►icted competition was bet-
ter than a legislative enactment. He was sure the
country, and the poor in particular, would be in-
debted to the Honourable Gentleman for bringing
forward the motion, and it should have his support.
Sir CHARLES BURRELL said a few words we
could not hear in support of the motion.
Mr. LITTLETON explained.
Sir CHRISTOrHER SPAITU supported the motion.
The motion was agreed to, and the Committee
appointed.
Mr. Hume postponed to Monday his motion for
returns explanatory of civil awl miscellaneous es-
timates.

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tOMMITTEE OF StIPPLT.

CASTLERRAGH moved, tint the order of
for receiving the repeat of the Committee
apply, be read ; upon which
Mr. BERNAL rose. Ile wished to make a few oh,
tions with respect to the foot guards. He had
• that their duty was sofficiently severe, as
seen *fated OW arfoimer night, but they nese
Bally performing the duty of the police of Lou-
is. He could see no reason why there should be
guard to attend the West • India • Dock., sod sr
leant's guard to attend the British Museum,—
rueld- Ase•resiems why a great commeldid
like the West India Dock Company should
list of their own funds, provide a guard ise
nor could he convene why the Britisli
useurn should be contrut with a iserjessit's guard
)'act. their valuable property, their Elgin min.;
nail venous ether things ; why they iilionld slur
;encore souse better protecri•iu for that siathrost
ing. lie did not. wish to abolish the foot
Is altogether. hut he should wish, to reduce
!o 4,000 efficiesit men' rook arid file. In the
profound peace, wheti the whole country is.
tying out for the most rigid economy, he shoultf
fish to .reslime Use military establishment as low
pr•ssible.•
Sir H. ffainitiou observed, shut, its point rof
economy, the guards were the cheapest description
of military establishment that cool(' be supported.
They had no allowances, like officers in the hnr,
and therefore the expense was much lens. With
regard to the duty of the guard., he *Mothd say
that they only obey their orders: they did not
make duty • for ilieenreives. As to whether the
West India Docks or the -Mciseam should be•fur-
ensiled with guards, he wuti!il not take upon hint,
to say.
Mr. LoceithiT wished to say a few wards on
what he consideted the vicious course of ,our pa-
Sent proceediers. He thought this was a time sishmt
tW mast riejel y should he adopted, and he
dePrelitedalti vellier,the system that was now' pur-
seing. As signs as the House was informed of the
lissome derived limn the trverree of the coirtitry.
their would' be -the tune to shape the expenditute.
But Itteuhotild eltoket•to the Report Isessig now re-
ceividtif‘wigt Hiss falsely called a Cosornitme of
Mice* Mid:Mears% . fur ere could not now deter-
mine ;visit -therevesitie of the country.
There wereist,preseut.two winces of reveuise, re-.
speeds.% the repeal of which Bills were pending, •
thellaft Tux and thefrlsithandry Horse Tax, which.
had such an injurions influence on the ageicultti-
riots. He was um so dead or so hid/itch-tit to the
Hienrests of the country as to suppose that the
lifluosse of Conmiens would not at least pause below
'They declare that they would pot repels! thedi.e.'•
Three were the main, considerations that milieu'-,
libius to stake these, observations, because he could '
Ismet c.ssiseat to go into a Committee of Ways yid
-Sham trout they had come to some result on Mom
Iroiros. 4. • •
Sir 11. PARNELL observed, that the EttimptMe
isid before the Ileum could not by any means lie
considered economical,. and he thought that the
Honourable Member for Aberdeen .(Mr. Home)
had.espnised iiinumerahle fallacies. His 'statements
Otid conclusions c-leurly einiviuced -hiss, that tile-
• 'system now acted upon was use extrevegaut system,
itust/ that we were eupportini•mucls larger military
establishuseut titan paw necessary nitieseis of itett&••
war important to °lsmer?, that the two Noble
Lords opposite (Lords Castlereagh and Palmerston)
differed maternity in their modes of secemitisig fur
this expeiditore. He wou'd not then enter into.
details, but he could not avoid calling she et-
lention of the Hooirto' the army in !rehired, and
Ili doing so, he'did net mean to cast airy. blame on
'the Goveretneist of Ireland. He knew that the
military estahlieliment was necessary in cousequeuce
of the manner ip which the civil power ms.exereis-
ed. If there were an efficient police established its
• Ireland, the .military establishment might at least
be reduced 5,000 men. The constables there are
appointed by the Grand Jetty, wills certain fixed
salaries, sqd they scarcely perform any effectual
service at sill. /-k did therefore truss, that the
Chid tiecretery • would turn his attention to this
question. end the military establishment of Ireland
might be reduced very considerably.
Lord PA LHERITON wished to make one oineryi.
Aims on what fiad fallen from the Host. Member
for Oxford (Mr. Lockhart). He was guilty.of sr
Saalnsomer in calling it a Committee of Ways and
Means, instead of a Committee of Supply. He
seemed also to he unacquiriated with the pesctice
of the House. The usoal custom is to ascertain the
number of-nsers necessary, and then raise a sum to
support them. But lie would wish, it ewers,
to raise the money first, and then spend tt peke
gentlemen.
Mr. CALCRAFT expressed himself an advocate
for keeping up skeleton regiments. If the officers
anti the staff were reduced, it would!take consider.
able time send creosol to refit them •when necessary.
ith respect to an observation that had been made
about mounting the cavalry, be would say, that he
thought the interests of the service hest consulted by
rairisishing the troops wills strong horses. He hoped
that no observation he had at auy time made would
he considered istridiour. If he had made any such
obseivetion, hr begged distinctly to retract it.—
(Hear, hear.)—No man honoured the service more
than he del. He should always wish to keep up an
efficient troop, het not more thaw was necessary.
Mr. LocaiiAßT explained. He admitted that
he unclean error in calling the Committee or Sup-
ply a Committee of Ways and Magna. But that
did hot alter his argument. The principle applied
to either.
After a few observations from Sir H. VIVIAN,
which we regret we could nut hear, the question
wits put and carnet).—Cie Report was them beoughl
up and read.
On the ques'ion being put that it be read a se-
cond time,

Mr. Hume rose to move an amendment.
The SeIt•KER sated that the usual cow
to move an anier:dment after the second
The Report was then rend • second time
which

Mr. Hums again rose. It was not his
after all he had raid on a former occasion,

the House at present. There were, howeri

observations wh►ch he thought ileetesary
on what had fallen from Inni as to the a

the guards. Ile ne►er meant to east the
reflection on the guards. If Le used

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%eta the talliee; and would order such a force as Carlisle. • p 6 IBM ; iMagietraie
sin
pitlall eg , Horlitrittlemste for refuting ittift rilAr Loral
4' 'lr lo walk on ' •Nte f • .aeu Oil Stated, the question hiffl. MAP:
might be necessary to carry them op to the poll. than either
- is. to (As i '4":
This offer the other side declined. In the course say that if tilo, - meted 'pi • al , '. ght of ele sin had Mau in WhM,l... 'lunch of the prleilegies # the ItiourSt.4.
...
0? tete morning seversl affrays of a trifling nature Popular.stOdests wattles be deemed a : aleit: 1"`: -- . that 11min/been cu 11..., la moist'''. Collllllissof is be considered stale. •Ilicatitrun +twee.
-w. of Sup
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civil
occurred between small parties of persons, and for the inee#eretim of the milierry. there never Wee, .•rir felony, he svosisk.terasoln and I k hit trill. Tie notlinselibt leeward at o- time Mare suitable 'le
rcoi
to
scooliTif: h
about noon, when there was no appearance there neveiraireold lit a popular election wiihriot this 'obtainers esidefl• ieffillltliertbe Man Out of the Psi- the. poles of the HonOurable Gentleman ! And, servatio
the day
b actionsc°
l a issuidn I ki-o noiddoul
DrllitillielNlP-. ry. ill*divnio,ll"l"Pprieoce="*.to read rit.he pit : touladewthe 412-1.7iniT.'..11 . 't
Which -tiEiouar
ie beinirot naturel Aosf ttliakiigttie*
'thte..slaimi. leis the Ibet
I)6ll,Procmhfer -11-1 f tbs-
clamagit'iti the Riot Act from the steps of the of thia•fretregeous tliob hadoliven 'ri.e. No 'less Tat the time- iri4friestion, .••
.af, and tnerermii tie —.Wes that the way fur the Hoe:siege to seek actual!,
Thilialik-2110106616-isy-iiitiallahms Altzin 46111- ' thassztbreltaottek.gosid men and. true, and bete- obstruction could have 'rusted to the disadvan- redress for the interference of the military in elect- don. i
erloggwta
.tbs mayor.. Ne. *tiler twice hale. . genies of Carrot,. and iu the interest of the Ho- tage'of one ride. He ems :feted Government. and tionti, and the consequent infringement of the pri. a guarc
eve lysi,oyky of the cieeaseatapca.till abasi tiariis
.noutable Baronet, had been nitlinirbitea by this praised the forbearance the military ; but the • •vileges of Pat resilient ? He regretted that any one aerie,"
taw .afierwaids, when an loci- 'outrageous mob, and had drisie--what? Why they House would fail in its duty if' inquiry were not could be found to hold such language in Parka- He c"N
liekttia. Imes,eudigigait to shew the utter. - had adjourned theexercise of their right of voting till tootle into the circumstances. mein; he regretted still more that it should have body Ii
ggpfeiger h naisfon. north& and. ir mere quiet day! So nernendoels Mr. W. WYNN said that theiwas • subject on been held openly in Parliament by a Member hold- tint, °L
gitahic
i kii- .. a wl.. 'welly shown of Min were the effects et the mob outrages! "He had to which the House ought to exercise the utmost jes- ing an official situation. Hurl the Hon: Gentleman police,
. . - on, egitcompieteiroeured the ma boast a little longer experience of human life. louse. That House was the proper tribunal to de- made such a speech before his appointment, lie Muse°
, .
. pod the adjoining arrests of , the crowds and all its affairs than the Honourable Baronet termine upon ally infringement on the right of elec• would not have been allowed to bold his situation, to pro''
. ihrponeee there ri;oeirthied. „it bout a quarter of an possessed ;he had witnessed popular elec- • lions If the military were called in in the course of in- It was enough for the House to know that the bier au
bow after the' reatritas over,. the people re-seen..trona enemy timer, but he had never seen a sin.. election, that of itself being held to be wrong by the military bed been introduced dcring the time of P'e"`"
;,.) yard. ;meeker ladighease, Mr. Forster, called gle day at a contested popular election which Constitution. furnished the necessity for inquiry. • election, and the Hon. Gentleman might to be aware bolldia
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~,,,,,,,..,., of hos o*t of the Castle 0 dispenie Orel so entirely free front disturbance, that the The law was opposed to the interference of the mile.- that the only remedy for such an outrage lay with guards
111,4:10611Veftly rptdvd the officer who com- timid, the fastidious, the weak-minded would mot tarp except on the most urgent occasions. 'The Noble that House. The Hon. Gent 'census said that the the'" "
shoo, fee be wee sure that he felt his situ, have been induced to select the hour or opportu- Lord had assumed that the interference complained Magistrates were responsible for their conduct. tilue °I
mills he ano-gf the most painful nature. As they city for giving their votes. The Howie ought to of took place after the hoer of polling ; but all The House knew that the Magistrates acted on crying
4theiVedidattas) • were leaving the Town,-ball, the repeal the laws for securing the freedom of election the siatenseuta which had been made on the subject. their responsibility ; and that responsibility, if acted *l°l' t°
two ewwwwilies owe in the act of hieding their miss. , from being injured by the presence of the soldiery, to shew the necessity for interference, were filled upon, would bring them to the bar of that House a• P'4'
kegs_ loath' ball eartra,re. By whose orders that or establish a system of military protection for the with complaints of obstruction. He very much to answer for their conduct. That was the Teapot'. Sir

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splays; ofl.o4letirgy ijoimplaisewt, • which .8
, yrovalgotmotp JO /11.10 ausaiell, Altunne, ly that
used In teristt most lairatewenillgip: !very att.'
lotrodomtgantlitaz army; hi modern poll
spooled . to'iOtilte it 'an eiseittietstirt of' their i
In loffirctt .Ofetv7 saeastire itr the' sword' at
bayaner. -11.1 e 144Allemblk Poweedtti at
'rule h ~so aniietailvti•et. an Ow 111Wdue prefere net
' to the outlay over that fon& wilat used hereto
be thc:pride # ild glory of the isatimi, its navy.
syt.tria of .4glytitT.Coircjoa,•tie•eoutentfrcli w
w Nilo It iega iqim livitopecioted be perms/ten
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tabjtahecl- : 'lttualcumitry; tilamsspitliirs bt
the En ' - aoUsee, 'ate the ettilen ive
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stroY.l4lo ,I of it'thirulor He'ecinctud
. ant Wing. 11, ' .. • t." ' 'Petiituur rErtain freei
sills . ' Catilifle;',. f'.' '. - -'or interference-
rhilifliy. ft' 'o4•Ashe • ' 'it lad embi .or
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to *I asp, Ass the fit oak last, be mutt
resaA •."4 th!t:theL.P.ij ititiom- be referred
Coisiptlee pf.:lrjavikgeo, to inquire into. the I
of the slitockiyepott•therevoliA;.:
Sir P. 0114krit ItheAvainvorsairful Candid
Carlisle) . Gendittl the coadoet of the Magi,
4rud 'was undfratoodrto maintain that the civil
- ...se op ikg seciesioa, ist question wbotly ins&

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intention,
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