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HOUSE OF LORDS—Mow DAY, May 13.
shore the doors were opened for the adusi.wion of strangers,
ninaq business WAS ttalSitte4 ; principally con-
t"..A"felsoi. ulterior se, 4.1.1 connected with the
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was a conf,once with Deputies from-
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::.1:0jol le"uilio-rt"o-f-thffi riv"Lovird.hiaii,e were
these of the Ceinniest by Mr. Leycester (see
the
i'ng, of the Howe of Coons:mt.)
itriNto'S C anlol.l‘..S OF IRELAND.
The Order of the Day for resuming the. Adjourn.
ed Debate upon this suhjeet being read ;
The Earls of SUIEOLK and BUCKING-
HAMSHIRE. presented themselves fo'r a hearing at
the sane time ; at length, the latter gave way, and
Earl SUFFOLK proceeded to state his reasons
foe suppoitiog the Motion. He contended, the
pewter of the Petition should be granted not as a
lees, but as a right ; it was therefore more proper
to grant it freely, w!lea such a fair opportunity pre-
ivted &to e Wiih :rope& to the time, he thought
*present peculiarly the fittest fur it, in order to
conciliate four reillions of our fellow subjefis, at a
period when we were threatened with invasion. It
as nest to be exrened the Catholics would be satis-
fird eabeshe limited powers hitherto granted them,
they had a right to the lull participation of our excel-
Coastitutioe.They should not forget how much
•f this very Constitution was owing to the spirit
211 d exertioas of our Catholic :remoter; ; and, as to
the idea. that persons of that religion were not fit
to he truer i in the administration of our civil af-
fairs, or woe commands in out armies, was riot the
ablest Minister France ever had a Protestant? Were
sot the best and rout victorious of their Generals,
en ly. Towne, and Saxe, Protestants What den-
y; then could there be in admitting Catholics to
commands is our armies ? and as to admitting them
into offices in the magistracy, he had it from an an.
th,nty on which he confidently relied, that the
leave which for a length of time prevail-din par-
er i r rafts of Ireland, was principally owing to
th er flue ice of the Roman Catholic Ministers. He
shoo if certainly support the Noble to d's motion.
e he Lase ot OXFORD, after vindicating the con-
isteecs of his poliiicel sentiments, made a• few ob-
sersations in support of what fell from the Noble
Ear! who preceded him.
The F4l, lof BUCKINGHAMSHIRE rose, and
observed, that the official situations he so long held
in helm r, gave him rate pretensions to a know-
ledge of the .affairs of that country. lie hat the
honour of prep. sag the Al of 179 e, to the I t ish
Parliament, by which the situations of the Roman
Catholics were so highly bee fitted, and were it iii•
Onward that he was unfavourably inclined towards
the Irish Catholics, he had for contredietion but to
Offer to the provisions of that statute, the objra of
niblick was to give the Catholics an equality of
Civil Rights. with the rest of their fellow sulisieeks;
Pe &teens. so a p.irt of the language need by the
Noble Benin who proposed the Motion on a former
eight, which he considered as unwarranted, either
by the subeeet or the occasion. In the discussion of
the whjett before them, the principles and senti-
ments of the Catholic, with respect to ecclesietical go-
vernment, were worthy of seriousconsidetation :those
is a greet degree might be colleeted from a produc-
hoe of the t ituler A reetsislorpof Dubiiii (Dr.Troye, to
parts of which the Noble Earl referred, particularly
that respeaing the supremacy of the Pope as bead
of the Catholic Church, in which it was held, as
agreed to by all true Catholics as an immutable
article of their faith; such poems, therefore, with
oterence to the oath of supremacy, were inadmissi-
ble to seats io Parliament. •As to tne higher offices of
the state, he was free to acknowledge his opinion,
that in all his dominions 'hoe were not persons
more finsily attached to His Majesty's person and
Government, than the Lords and Gentlemen who
represented the Catholic body of Ireland ; it was
but justice to acknowledge this, whatever use may be
made of it in argument againit his intended vote of
that night. Bat lie was sorry to be obliged to say.
that person; of such • a description as he alluded
to, had Ins: the:r influence °ter the great mass of
she Roman Catholics of Ireland, who were near
allured by very different kinds of men. In illus.
traaion of this, he adverted to the choice made by
the Catbolie body, of an agent iu the person cr
Theobold Wolfe To:se, by which, however, he dial
not inca-i expressly a charge of disloyalty ; lrit allud-
ed to it as a case of extreme suspicion ; they pass-
ed vote, which, his'Loriship read, for presenting
Mr. 'Cone with a sum of 15001. together with a gold
medal worth 30 guineas, as a testimony of his ser-
vices, and of their gratitude. With respell to the
measure of the Union, Rae of its pt incipal advantages
was the ps-ospeet that by it, the Roman Catholics
would be induced to be satisfied with their present
eituatime without being admitted to what they de.
Lire in the Petition, as their political situation from
a majm i:y in a separate, to a decided minority in a
united kisig.enm, was materially changed.. Were
she prayer of the Petition granted, and Catholics
admitted to a share in the representation, it might
he produelive of the most serious coneequencts,
particularly with respeß to the Protestant ecclesias-
tical establithewnte in Ireland • inasmuch as the
couuties which formed by far the greatest part of
the Irish representation, in three and four of the
provinces, the Catholics were in a proportion of as
six to one : this, joined to thonalure of the tenure
of freeholds in that country, would throw a decided
preponderance, in that respect, into the hands of
the Catholics. Besides„ the present time was one
of the most likely that soul be imagined to throw
Ireland, circumstanced as the empire isest present,
into all the anarchy and confusion of eleetieneering
contests between ceudidetes of cppo:i:e relig ions, anti
would be attended with consequences the most per-
nicious. The sentiments of the Catholics, with re-
spea to the church establishments, were to be rot •
leael front the confessions of Dr. Nl'Nevio and

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