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which His 'Majesty ha : arrived It hag
nut occurred to me, to tee „any persons at that ad-
vanced period of life labouring under this dis-
ease.

Q. Do you know that Medical people in gene-
ral consider, that as life advances, after a certain
period recovery is deemed more improbable:—A.
Yes, 1 believe that is the geII1.1:1I upiniun.
Q. Then, in the greater numher of patients
who have recovered, as stated by yan, all titiar pa-
tients were in a class of age Lielow that of the
King?—A. I think so ; there was one whose age
I do not recollect precisely'.
Q. !lave you been in the habit of attending any
of the politic hospitals for the remount of patients
trotter this disease?—A. No, I have not heeti in
the habit of attending any hopital appropriated to
the reception of such patients.
Q. You have stated, that you entertain a very
favourable opinion of the King's ultimate reco-
very ; and you have stated use of the reasons of
your opinion to be, the soundness of His Nlsj.-sty's
constitution ; in those patients whom you hove at-
tended, have you not found that very sound con-
stitutions have often been alto:led with incurable
maladies of this nature?—A. No, I du slat know
that I hive often found that.

Q. Itive you found it in any instance?—A. I
have sera people ho hare not recovered.

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Q. %Vali very snood constitution.?—A. Not
with such constitutions as the ; probably I
should have had great hopes of them, if they had.
hut I cannot cis-urge my wind now with every pa-
tient of the kind 1 u:tesided doting forty
veart. "I lie general impression made upon my
mod does not authorise the to answer that ques-
tion decirmit ly.
Q. When the constitution is so sound as to
afford the medical atteoclaist no reason for the
mental infirmity as mising out of that constitution,
d• you lithilt dint the probability of recovery Is
mire or less front that circumstance?—A. More,
certainly, from a sound com,titution,
Q. If you cannot trace any cause for the infir-
mity P—A. If I cannot trace any cause, if there
is no hereditary tatut, or any obvious cause for it,
no external or any 'Mil which looks like
organic:ll allectiou of the b.aiii ; I should •upte-
bend a sound constitution affords much the greatest
probelality of recovery.
Q. You have stated, as another reason, the ex-
treme accuracy of the King's memory; to patients
labouring tinder this infirmity, is not estretne ac-
curacy of memory very frequent, and souretion•s
what may be called morbid ?—A. I never observed
Oar.

Q. You lisve also accounted for the pr .bability
of the King's recovery, by observing the strict,
bionple. Hod temperate diet the hios has %Indy.
ure-J : when patients have come under your obser-
vation. whose habits of life have been rxettiv the
reve,.e of the kings. has not the redo( itig them
to that sleet and temperate thet and life to which
tim Km:: has hero 'teens:oiled. ittfor.l.rd the bust
ground of hope for mei, a th.sr r.boirs-
ry F.—A. When r:xers in the of life has
he. ti ton much iislidgeri. the remov.tl of that cr-
ew, and the subsequent •ooptiron of
end rather a more sp,Aritig regimen. has beet) be-
quently atttod•il with becer.«.

Q. What Jo you mean he the integrity of the
King'a mud et the preteut time?—A. l tren,
that his memory it entire. his perception, are
retire. and his aCiltVae,l rmisiilerable, which
appears from every lion and t'l.f. a CO:It Arai ass
any todng that is said. Ili. iml4meht. 1 have ••atil
was perreited„ and that iii 'gerund his dineretion i.
asleep it times: though every new and shim there
are gleams of both, but they are Mintiest.
Q. In &tailing the present runt of the King'.
mind, as 10 f•. 16 Medlar'', 4.11 percept iiiii a, the she,-
rut ioia of hi, judgment. end hie lows of discretion;
is not that mate of itind common to all persons
boating under the ...trite infirmity. or are they par-
ticular symptom. belonging to the King ?—.t. I
Jo out know that I evrr saw exactly a vote paitil'e!
to the King'. ; the disease is modified by Ina pe-
culiar cunati.ution, and perhaps w sonic IClVallUry
by his peculiar station.
Q. You titer mentioned your expectation
that the King will recover, an I be able to
transact piddle bth.itte.s hot that Annie VC,.
Ii gas if the erme;•l4hit m.i rrinalit ; Ili you mean
to Coy, that the recover). a Irv, in your 111a111011,
V,Onlitate to tile IntaLletina of public busine.a,
while ve.t•ges of :hr c t alJaiut 1,111‘111?—A. Yea,
I shou'il have un dnitht their he time. h,•,,
II:a Nlej 'sty might Its. perfreily competent to
perry thin;;: and that now awl then, a little
or t'oirtvtlotn4, itri.glu, for a iiiiarter of an I ,or
MO hour, agitate him, lilt that it ...mild all s.it,•.:.!e
Avid. I toisiler•dmid that w 3• the ca-e w lira ft.r•
Kier recu%eriv”, for u time ; I dill not learn alien it
erasoil ; I die) not see the Ding id any of his
ill-
- slier lie had been ftVClarCit 1;111tC well ;
I omiendood it did out list tL rte a moot;
tan, or s few weeks: but I poly biwak feud hear-
say in flat revert.
Q. Their. in fact, you craved to vi.il the
ill kW former titacarra, after tee 16.14 declared gone
Yes.

Q. And you have heard that, subsi-reuent to
that declaration, there were occasional parinif,lll.l
of the disorder, though slight and short ?—A.
They could hartAy he called paroxysm. ; it aas
more a kirry of inioner than soy tlin.g e 1..;
as I understood from those who sew His Mil-
roy,
Q. Were you a party to the deelaratinn, in
the three former tlliiesee4. that the Kiwi per.
fectly well ?—A. Nut in the three farmer nt.
stances: at the time that I dreier. el the king to he
well, in the year MO. I then thought the King
well ; that we% I think, Ili the beg • gof March
1789.
(j. Wen yon a party to the declaration. that
the King was perfectly well in 17119 ?—A. I
was.

Q. I:, 1801, were you a party to the declare.
tiou that the. King was perfectly well ?--st. No;
in ism, after thy King was so much better, that
the Bulletins erased in the morning, I withdrew
the Knig was Acing th.vt to hew ; and I
thought
the King Rao au well, I did not apprehend it to he
net y for in, to attend auk hunger. The King
had ',Lip..., I understood. at Kew ; but I did not
see Inns in that 'eloper.
Q. Can yea re_oll.ct the date of els I.iin Bole

letin that was signed by sou in the year Nwi
A. No, I have no memorandum of it.
Q. Who were the Medical attendants upon The
King, on his relapse at Kew in NW—A. 1 beliki,
the late Dr. Osborne, and Dr. John and Dr. Ro-
bert Willis. Ido not know whether Mr. Unwise
might see him ; but they were the ohly Physicians
attending line at that filer.
44. IVere Son • piety to the deelaratinn, that
tie King wa. pt erectly well, 16 the year 18:4
A. Ye', I Olio!: I was at that time.

Q. 11..5s Cl. r« any rel Apse after that declare.
tion, in that .1111. %—A. Not any. that I wader.
stood ; I did not I=re His Majesty after that; but I
never heard of 411 y afiarwards.

Q. When you withdrew in the year 1501, was
it in consequence of any dollen:nee of option with
the other blesli...sl attendants'—A. Nose iu the
world ; it was merely because 1 thought that the
King was a great deal (setter. and that toy attend-
ance was tio longer nrce•saiy at that time.
Q. You have meationel th- King's competency
to husinews, ist the intervals pessods of flurries
which may occur r the disease has in a great
measure ceased ; during tho-e periods of flurry, do
you think that the King would be competent to
transact any bit.issess, public Or private?—A. 1
cannot answer that question from tin• own know-
ledge; but what 1 usislerstood was this, that if the
King was, from any little otitis:sit:on. tither in a
flurry, if he was told that there was any business to
transact, it cumin:no-4 hiss directly: that was the
testimony that was given to me by *evert' persons
who saw him at the tine.

Q. W iin were the p• rsons who gave you that
testimony I cannot tell exactly now; it was
those who were nhotit him at the time ; I think I
herd lininethirg of that kind from Dr. Illeherdesi.
but 1 du not mean to rely upon my quetait m.
Q. In 1801 there was it relepoe2—A. Yes.

fiat atter the considete recoveries its 1789
and 1404, those flurries occurred I
did not understand users was any relapse to the
tir,t illness, nor in 1804. 1 believe. as far as 1 eau
recollect, eaten ilia whole together. that Wise..
was shorter than that of the year 1788 and 17a9 ;
even teking its the period of the relapse. the whole
of the attack was shorter, Imams, its 1788 the
imenpland commenced in October. and we did not
declare the King well till the beginning of March.
Iu 1891, it commenced in February ; tad 1 think
the King was well before the end of M iy, and that
includes the period of relapse.
Q. At the time you ceased to attend the king
in 1801, was there any declaration made. that he
was completely recovered ?—A. No declaration was
then made that he was completeiy recovered. I
do not recollect what the last bulletin was ; bat I
know that I thought the King so well. that I could
take my leave lit him with propriety; and 1 did it ;
seem:: the Ktn. gettinv. beret, and nu leratimiling
that he wise 11011i11.aing to Kew. I thou .ht that it
eimild have a good istopearaiace so Vie public that
I had withdrawn; that it is,oiht he a contirtnatiou
to the politic that the Kiln: :V.V.:114 well.
9. Did you esteem the King well at the tine
you withdrew your ftliellll once toiviii --A. I
shon:d rather think that I d d think hiiii well at
that mite; I thought hi:a so nearly so, that 1 could
very safely withdraw.
Q. You wished she pmhlie to naders.und, frori
pear wiihdraiviii: from attentla.:ce. that the Kalil(
was ?—A. I wished so. because 1 thought so
inveelf. ltot Ido not recollect the ins c.oe terms
of the last Wile:is; but I aro sure I 'sever signed
any lbw; that 1 did nst think.
Q. The Committee is to understand, that the
complete recovery of the King is the same as the
coutplato recovery of any other person of the same
&warder. to be intrissted with any thiiig he nosy
have to transact, whether virblie or private
think so.

Q. There is na difference, in yottr ev.imatiow,
bet.vei u the movery of the King and 1114 of say
other person?—A. NOM., in toy
Q. I. the present age ..1 Flit :Majesty likely more
to off. ct the duration of his illness, than him age at
the respective periods of his former attacks of this
flounder P....As I can only answer that question by
saying, that age seems to have made very few de-
predations upon His Maje,ty. He is aropurently
younger and stronger titan teeny per.ons much
younger then himself; and therefore mutt is better
able to resist the effect of divest,, than several per.
sous younger than hitnself would he.
Q. Yau will, in your answer, compare His Ma.
jriity, not with other 'masons, but with hitnelf
only. Dar' his ',resent mgt., inure or less, affect the
probability of the duration of the disorder, then
his atfe at cor former pri.torlii of %wail ?—A. I
should that it MOW lIIVN •n•i,C ttritet ;
though I .!..) not ,cc tiirt he has at present out:tura
front 1115 ngl..
Q. At the peria.l of HU Majesty's former at-
tack, in is.:)4, was Ili, Majesty's sight *4 much af-
fected as it is a! present A. No ; I slid cot ob-
serve that His Majesty had soy detect of sight et
whet peritwl,
Q. Is pis Niests's ight sow become eery de-
fective t--A. Very defective.
Q. is that deft., tof sight likely to have soy in-
fluence troop His Majesty's ultimate recovery from
the &seat?, or likely to have any iiiesieuce upon
the duration of the disorder, supposing him mitt.
lamely to recover?—A. Doting a certain period
of the disease, and under certain eircumstatictie,
his being blind is either a beneficial circumstance,
because it iatercepta SOMe sources of irritation; but
I at another period of the discos., it will be adverse
to him, li-couse it also intercepts souse sources of
i ainutentent.

Q. Compiiting. then. the different tendencies
of the defectiveness of lilts Majesty's sight, do you.
upon the %hole, conclude that the defect of soot
is favourable or unfavourable to the ultimate reco-
very of His Majesty. or tends to shorten or to pro.
long the duration of his illness, supposing him ul-
timately to recover ?—A. That is a question lean
hardly make up my mind to : I see it operate some-
times for his benefit ; and there are times wnea I
think that the low of sight will be a grievance. by
preventing the amusing hum and abstracting him
from himself : hut what effect it 0111 have upon the
pro.ractlng or accelerating hit recovery, is a great
d-al snore than I can give a definitive answer to.
Q. 13 persons labouring under the disease sin.
der which His Majesty now utifortnnstely labour.,
do sot the persons attendiug them. address ttcir

ofmeteistee• Itruf •ntann 'r. any runiaaeb,,
ranch to the eiklitrte arta ted pertota).....k.
.nOdoubteally.
Q. Does not the eye afFonl, ti the wpm
tending persona allicted NM I-1 s Miraty
its perfect stafrOl mein* of control uvrr the
ed ptnou N—AC: 1 Karr undreamed that some
(hat arc 'been produced, but I voeuot
rot Kw any remarkable instance of it.
Q. Was not Dr. Samisen,' csllyd in to a
the King at the commineement of his prru,
new f—A. I understood lie was; but that w,
fore I was there.

Q. He did no: cantilme in that attends!,,,
A. lie did slot see the
Q. Are you snore or less sansraine in ynor
of the King soltimat• recovery, that. you a ~
you wrrr rtimiwed before she Pr ty Cculki
A. lam not ler' asnsuisseuf his Ult,uoitr ~„
than I WC: then.

Q. Have you experienced any cliosppetito4
in the expectations you ent..rtairo4l atbn Ana
extinsined before 14r Privy C..uncil as to
jesty'a recovery, NO to the t u.. of it ?--A. I
jrxty's relapse. after the exatntartion of the PI
timid before the Privy Coup. tl, certainly
us. and put the prospect of Itotnerhate rtrot.l
a greater dibtaner. but I du not think of Win
recovery. _ .

Q. Are you of opinion, that a proton, h
had, with an interval of several y:•er., repfti
tacks of this malady, is on the Nit stack
or less 'likely to recover, than a person eh, 1,
lava so previously subject to attack ?—A.
rather think that the circumstance of his harm
well before, from 'tar attacks, it • Istio4
of hope that hie will froin this.

Q. Does advanced age. coupled with prioi
tacks of the some d,w►drr with which 114
jetty ja wow afflicted. make any differetry
calculation. as to the probability or his tec
—A. It would in any other am; hot the.ii
.err.-iliiiig ►o peculiar in the King's. 1 do
thiiik it has eJtaketi our cocflilence.

Q. Wuot are the pet olialioes which lake
Kii,g's ease edt of your general elnetraticas ?
Those tircomotaucea lu which I hire alluded
fere, the biy,Tcor 4.f ceriaiu &vulvas of
mind. and %Moe briug no walk of fatuity a..A
11103.

Q. Yon hare elated, that you understood
Nitre of His Majesty's preenn . malady to
boon his atasiett nhunt the Prlncess Amelia;
yten bee. informed, *lint were sopittolett tt he
Canoes of the attick. His Mfitje.tv had
1101. and Idol; or ahetbtr tin •r attack, wile
(erred to any u,n n ciuse?—A. tdo nut knave
the Mat actsl was recerrr.l to any known ea
1101 1 did tiorteittland there was a cause; Ii
iidt teederstaed that to 1904 there Wit 41.7 Jst'l
able caul,.
(J. When ton were called in on the 3,1 01:
vensbor. did the phcatciaus Oho 1,4(1 %rept prrs•iil
)y in attendance irrorot you when the first ryo
loin of fits Majesty's isrrseia complaint was
served by them they told int on
Ott( of October.

011. Hare *or of Ihr Royal Family *evil
Atajestl *ince you hove bt•ou id lutendAnce 0—

Q. {last any rectory. other than the Ph qsici
and the Aura.Ludt under !het, inspection, AI
{tie Thijesty, enc. ynie atletar4tlCe
A. The Lord ChAuct•ller we 11:th the dr, bie
yrwerd sy.

Q. DM the Lord Chancenot apply ti yi
111. k.f.t. yoor Nooks, re to the propriety of tort
Lln abje,ty, befole he salt Aim Ver.,
••

Q. 114,1 any of the Rapti Family obvvina.l
applied for permmion, to see 111 Majesty ?.-4
Not thrt we ttuderbtood.

Q. Was it with the unanimous concurrence
the Physicians, that no injure could arise to
Nisi s')'+ teralthi that the Lord Chsticellor w
persoitivrt to ser Hi' Majesty the day bet.ore
teidAy ?—A. There was nu absolute dissentient
there was a di4cussion on the anhject, and then' a
• doubt on swoe of our mind.. whether it siouhl
him good or ,e him; hut Hie Mojeoy
brun informed the Chaucel:or was to be there, an
it IR ea then decided amongst us, th4t as that a
the case, and he seemed to have made up his min
to the seeing the Chanrellor, there was More chaas
of irritation by preventing it, than there was by ti
Chntiretlor's seeing him; and therefore the Chan
senor .ate hint with the ussasiiisions coactirreuce e
all, after that discussion.

Q. By whom was His Majesty informed, di,
the Chancellor would be these. end ws th,it info
tuition gives to His Mop sty with the knowleifo
and consent el all the Phyineimis in attei.,!dixe ?-
A. I believe Sir Henry HI dford was the post
wbn informed His Majesty the Chancellor was I
be them.

Q. With the knowledge and concnrrencr of a
the Pliyiiiciatte?—sit. Not at the Lime: Sir Wu
lielford was elope with the King at the time
told him, and redid sot hest of it till afterwrd
14. Then the day heftier yesterday, in roe.
(pence of such info•nrtion conveyed to His 51
jesty. you and the other Physicians lied nous but
choice of evils to choose from ; that wan, wheth
be would he ;restated by seeing him, or more in
toted by not seeing him P—A. That Was not e.
stilly the case; we had some hopes thst seeing a•
Chancellor might give the King more self.po,4
✓oot, said 1110 not know thst it 4111 not for s till
bectiose. we had known before former ihileor
that it had dune so. Bat tbere wee no evil to I
apprehended frotu it, except there might have t
• little momentaty anxiety about the King. W
doubted whether it would be right or nut, in
diseemiou among ourselves ; host there was nothii.
of clash or of opposition of sentiment ; it was
temperate discussion ; there was no dissentient
all ; it was mat appeheuded that it was a choice d
two rolle.
Q. Had you love esesalted by Sir Henry Hslholl, wltt
Hier he should soform Hr Najeaty, 111 the manner he
to Ilse th•nrelioe'• attrodmier, would you have agreed
His Majesty being tufivroted l--A That vtoutd Lave
at entirely on the state in uhiab I uoght bare seen the h:n
at dial lime.
Q. Have you, *insist the last furlough*, wen the K .sr.
any time, Mooch • state, that yds tio;ocist it di- ti
Cltaorellor should ~.it him'—.t. I do not ht.., it. 31
should of myself hair inentionti it ; at At *am: al:J.' I .1
°'t know that 1 had oily tine to it. Ido not 11-.11, .