The British Press; or, Morning Literary Advertiser.
London, England, 1804-07-04 00:00:00

On FRIDAY the 6th JULY.

The P•ntioneo from the 11t1 Regtmentel Foot Gulnh, and
those from the lit to the 11th Regiments of Fat inclusive.
the SATURDAY tile 7th JULY s
Thmse folds the 12th to the 33th Regiments of Foot its.
thieve.

An lkt (WAY the 4th JULY 7.

Those /corn the tlfir h the 59th Rilginvento of reKle inclusive.

On TUESDAY the loth ;JULY
Those horn the Silt is to the A9th Ref meat. of Foot inclusive.
On WEDNFADAY Cie 11th JULY;
TI,l•- from the 90th to the 133 th Reg. m.•ntrof Foot inch'.
seer ; 31&) the Pensioners from the Qtteest's G,,man Iterment,
the Afr,ea• .ral Irish, Lord Strathatetes, Mmi.r
‘Vai let\ FlUsol's sot Fish'. Corps, the Queen's Rangers, Veit-
cible Corps, Roysl Garrnon ittsloos, Cinque Port and Lan-
eashin. V& .ers, Vie RotrAl ll.opiral Corp., also the Ameri.
Call illldoaCr fr"..mg. ~•h the Militia.

O. TPIURSDAY the 1:911 JUI.Y ;
Those fr..m th. I nrlevewv.itt Cnospanuts of Invalids, Reduced
Regim....t, of Mann.., and i.ett.•rmen.
11.1 FRIO it the 13th JULY ;
Serjeants from the Foot (;Wards, at Niti..pe nee per D.em,,
the Scrice.c., Corpora'. aid Neat, M. i, *ho receive the in•
crease., Pension on account of 11111.1dne,s, as also the Seneanta
di.l.sisd.cl from the late Independent Compsnies, who receive
01.. Shilling per w,th the Privato Gentlemen who re-
ceive An.ontio. from the late lit and 114 Troops of Horse
Gouda

And that all Out-Pen inners (as we'l Lettermen as others)
Aeloneme to the said 11..staital, who live at a greater distance
th twenty-fire milts from London, and those in Scotland
and brawl, are hereby tenoned and ennionanded, after the 2 ith
of December next, and after every succeeding 25th June and
2atb of Deceor.her, until flusher orders, to apply to one of His
Majesty's Justices of the Peace, in the neighbourhood where
they reside, aid mad-c the fallowing affidavit, which the said
'.lln.sorate for the County, City, Borough. or Riding, before
whom the Proosinners appears will sign and date, viz.
41 Came hefore me, one of I Its Majesty's ludic ss
" of the Peeve (or the Cou ity of , and made
" that he was admitted an Out Pensioner of Chelsea Hospital,
"on the div of 17 ,or IS , from
Regimented' ,commanded by
" was then aced years, served in the army year', was
" discharged for , and that he is no otherwise
moviderf tit by the public, but as a Pensioner of the said
" Hospital, and now lives in the parish of , in the
" County of
Sworn before me this day of 180 •
The affidavit drawn accordions to the above form, dated and
atte.ted by a Magistrate, is to be put rap in a cover, and sent by
the General Post, direfled thus : Tu the Right Hon. Pay-
master General at the florae Guards, London." And Counter •
parts or Duplicates of the said Affidavits are to be reserved by
the Out-Pensioners respectively, to be exhibited to such person,
as shall be directed to pay them, that they may he satisfied, that
all such as may claim Out. Pensions are the real persons entitled
oreeeive the same; (and to the end that the Commissioners fir
the Affairs of Chelsea flomital, may be satisfied that the Pen-
sioners are the same per ions who have passed their teem ll ill lo-
tion). it is hereby further directed that such of them who have
served in, and have been discharged from, any of the Regi-
ments and Independent Companies of Invalids, are not to
mention in their affidavits such Regiments or Company of In-
nlids in which they served last, but the Regiment, Troop, or
Corps of the army from which they were first discharged and
recommended, and received at Chelsea Hospital.
. . . . _ . . .

And as the irneral payment.. in Great !If itain and Ireland, at
the end of the ensuing tux months, an, gonerally rc.mlated by
the {sheer; of residence mentioned by the Pensioners, who are
mior CheNe t in person, and in the hod of the aTirls
•.ts of erl'o hy.. at a diataneo, it is oriered and di.
werrsl, that no person wit, an ,;1 change the place of abode
py•.i 111 st hrt miaste,, ar specint d m hr. aCdavot aloresaod, and
vibe Ina!: hr hr. P mein excepthig to the (Hikers of Fri.
s- sn.'ll ph abo le), shill remise the same, lin
les, it ',Tears, Iv the C,rtihcate of respectable persons, that
:eh r.-•nnyal we, through inayoidable neeeasity, which he or
they could not frireseent prevent.
1..01v, it is ',Gluier,. That nnne will be entered upon the
Pat List. rd the said Ifoipital, or be entitled to receive ant be-
nefits therefrom, wile *hail not a:1 a;:recahlv to these 0,1.ns
and Daelions. G. AUST, Sec. and Res.

On the Motion, made by Lord HAWILSIURV,
that the first of these Bills be printed ;
Lord GRENVILLE rose, not to oppose the mo-
tion, he observed • for no measure introduced into
Parliament, that Session, did, in his mind, deserve
more fully to be known, as including important
principles, than that in which this Bill originated.
He took that opportunity of reprobating the issuing
of Bank of England Dollars at 51. It was a mea-
sure which involved a question, both of law and po-
licy. It might be doubted, that the Crown could
depute the power and prerogative of coining ; and
if it could, it would still be fit to ask, if it was ex-
pedient to delegate this high prerogative in the pre-
sent instance ? He would not touch upon either of
these questions at present. He should confine him-
self to the effect of this measure in a general political
view. He did not suppose, that it was a principle
unknown at this day, to any statesman, that the de-
basing the current coin of the Realm is not only an
iniquity, but one that must return, in its mischievous
died*, to the lips of those who practise it. All the
best writers on the subj., are agreed in this proposi-
tion; and no fad has ever happened to be a solitary
instance to the contrary. Thus far as it concerns
the State that pralines this injustice. The effea on
those who take the debased coin (that is, coin which
passes for more than its valise), if it is by compul-
sion, they are robbed ; if by the connivance of the
Legislature, they are defrauded. His complaint
against the Government, in thii measure, is, that
they permit the people to be defrauded of 6d. in
every ss. They who ought to superintend the inte-
rests of the country in this, have authorised the
Bank of England to do the wrong. Some current
coin must be hd for the purposes of ordinary traffic,
for the necessaries of life. te consumer cannot
have that current coin, without a loss of 10 per cent.
he must still have it. The necessity is such, that he
has no option. But Government is bound to guard
Isis interest in this, and furnish current coin at the
real value ; that is, allowing for the expence of coin-
age. It would 15e said, these Dollars are not to be
considered as part of the national coin ; but merely
as tokens, as promissory notes, in fad, to return
ss. He should have a strong ohjeaien to them, if
they were really binding obligantins to that eyed;
for it need only be stated, that the Bank of England
were issuing ss. Notes, to convince all men how
enormous the evil was; but it was easy to see that
the obligation of the Bank to repay ss. is nugatory.
Bank of England Notes for 101. are a promise
to pay in gold or silver; but the Bank is au-
thorised to pay in other notes, of no greater intrin-
, sic value, instead of gold or silver; authorised to
do so, from time to tame, and, lately, till the end of
the war. The same necessity, on the same reason-
ing, may easily, and more easily, induce Parlia-
ment to forbid the claiming of ss. from the Bank
for their stamped dollar. The public is therefore
constrained, by the necessity of having a current
coin, to take that for .ss. which is not worth that
sum ; and government has sanctioned, instead of
preventing, the fraud; and, in this case, has not even
the compensation of the paltry profit. But the ef-
fed to the nation in its foreign pecuniary transactions,
is also mast pernicious. This is a maxim that he
would not argue then. That the money of the na-
tion should pass in every country for its nominal va-
lue was of the utmost consequence to its prosperity.
But he was aware, that be would not be heard with
much patience on these topics, at this time of the
Session. He had merely, therefore, thrown out
these few hints, because of the great importance of
the subjed ; but, if he lived so long, he would bring
this subject before Parliament in the next Session,
when he would examine the whole question, the le-
gal point, that of the power of the Crown to dele-
gate the prerogative of coining, as well as the rest.
Lord HAWKESBIJRY said, the measure was
merely a temporary one ; and some of the best in-
formed persons were of opinion, it was produdive
of good consequences, in bringing into circulation
silver that would otherwise have lain dormant, not-
withstanding the scarcity of silver coin. It was to
be observed also, that it was not compulsory on any
person to take these dollars; therefore, the evil
could be very small. With raped to the general
principle, on which the Noble Lord had founded
the greater part of his argument, he should not en-
ter into that at present. He should only observe,
that our own slyer was debased much more be-
low its value than the Bank dollars below their pre-
sent nominal value. Yet, the ill consequences of
this were much less than would be predicted on gene-
ral principles. He did not mean to deny, that some
evil resulted from the debasing the silver coin. But
it was secondary its comparison of that which the
general principle predicts. And the reason is, that
we have c • whose real value is kept up to its no-
mival value, namely gold, into which the silver can
be exchanged at pleasure. The whole silver coin-
age, he allowed, demanded a revision. But a new
coinage of silver was difficult ; and, in the mean
time, this temporary measure had been resorted to.
Lord GRENVILLE said, he had never argu.al
on the supposition of the taking the Bank dollars
being compulsory by law. But he had 'hewn, that
it was effectually so by circumstances ' • and that all
the evil he had stated was the effect of that compul-
sion. He had never expelled to hear any one, much
less any person holding a high office of govertmunt,

The Marquis of ABERCORN said, it was for
the House to dispose of the Petitions ; he was no
more concerned in them than any of their Lord-
ships; he would, in no case, however, alter a Pc.
tition ; and he only begged their Lordships to re.
member, that no delay had occurred on his put.
He had used his utmost diligence to put the matter
into that state, which seemed to be required of hint
by the sense of the House.
Earl STANHOPE said, the Noble Marquis had
done well not to alter the Petitions. 1-k could not
agree withthe Noble Earl opposite to him (the Earl
of Rosslyn) ; the Petitions were addressed to 01 the
Lords Spiritual and Temporal, and the Commons ;"
the Noble Lord, might. therefore, have put the pen
then' the first part of the address, and presented the
Petitions to the other Houses on the principle of that
advice.

Lord GRENVILLE thought forms, in this care.
of the highest importance, since these were proceed.
ings that might originate a criminal process, is
which the Law and Comic'. lon demand the et•
most precision of forms t and this criminal process
against a Judge, one of the most imp Ports eer-
tatnly, that could be "sect. He therefore sup-
ported the motion for referring the Petitions to a
Committee of Precedents, who shoula be instrueed
to report them.
The Motion for this wag then agreed to.