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IMPERIAL ?4RLIAM&'IT.

HOUSE OP LORDS—filuctilisT,P;ll4llCM 26.
On the motion of Lord GRENVeLLY., the
*eiyal Family Bill was ordered to be read a third
:me, the first day alter the recess.
Lord AUCKLAND submitted to the House
ssmte papers conoetted with his Offie, as President
rf the Beard of Trade, which, he said, would sheer,
:'tat our imports and exports had increased in the last
.;r, in a proportion exceeding all precedent..
1..1 Eul of WESTMOKELAND said, he rose
• . ,gratulate the Noble Lord upon the prospe-
, state of the country, nraffording a proof, that
-.e late Ministry had not succeeded to a reined
trade and dilapidated resources.
the Papers presented by Lord Auckland we:e
then ordered to be laid upon the Teffile.
The Report of the Committee on the Seotch Ju-
dicature Bill, was read, and the amendments we: e
greed to.
THE IRISH CATHOLICS.
Lord HAWKESBURY moved, " That the
House, on its rising, do adjourn to Weidner
se'nnight."
GD,ENVILLE—" My Lords. I do not
oppose the motion of adjournment.
notice those proceedings and affairs
have rendered it necessary. To speak
my Lords, I rise to state the cause of
writ Change of Ministry• and tae con-
myself and my late Colleagues, as con-
ch that event. As I remember, about six
the then existing Ministry thought t their
hspensable duty, both to themselves and to their
retire trent office. Of that Ministry I
part ; and when I recoiled the cause, I do
rry conduit then, any more than I regret
VILiCh I have now adopted ; but I cannot
on that occasion the charaCter of the
,ernmint, its motives in taking that step, its ob-
tr.i yiews, were made the subjeet of represents-
:.reign from the tads and the real motives
stir:' it aieually arose. Upon the present an-
ther., when a change has been effected, not
't of tie resignetion of His Majesty's Minis-
of the exercise of His Majesty's unques-
and unduabted prerogative, it is natural
u:d wish to guard against error and mis-
e,ereation, and that I should be anxious to
- open, plain, and distinit avowal of my
t!;e reasons which have dire:fled it, and
hie groueds upon which this betiness
rests. But I have stronger inducement
make this explanation, and still stronger
n your indulgence. 4 allude to a publication ,
of tieeven this strOted ; and t
he glen:Tn.:me, iii what period of out his-
, heppened, that a public uton of confiden-
ces between the Sovereign and his Ministers
made thrcugh such a channsli (Lewd rur qf
4; !) Uf ;nose communications, which the
,at Ministers of the Crown have thought it
to make to their Sovereign ? ( ?fear! &a 4)
and admit certainly, that the advice to
allude should be Riven in writing. in order
shored be communicated to our successors,
might know upon what grounds they
to Ofikkv, And what was ..a periled Isom them ;
they ceasiJeled that advice fit fur publics.
there were two constitutional modes of pub-
. They might have addressed the Crown,
that bad advice had been given to fits Ma.
regitesting to know by whom it was
The accessary consequence of this proems:-
ad he, the predation of the papers contain
advice, and thus the cad would be sin;
Another fit and proper course is dike—
Tama seeking such publication, found that
ice was given to the Sorb, they might have
irenJed tt to His M ajesty to communicate
ad advice to Parliament, and call for punixh•
sport the parties so offending. These two
wete Wily open to their choice, and net-
MS been adopted It is of this I complain,
ask, is there in the history of the country—
annals of the nation afford a precedent feet
publication as met which 1 have seated ?
ke..r .V Let me ask any man who feels
tineiiar of the country, whether the truth
ease eught not to be brought forward, and'
ieplained f Upon this ground, then, I say•
do not complain of any p.rticular pesson,
k it, in a peculiar degree, my ditty, and that
botrid still more strongly than I should have
rise telt, to make such a statement of my can-
your Lordships, as may guard it from the
of mi.representation, and place the business
fair and hue light. Before, however, deter-
upon this course, I did humbly beg leave to
Petition before my Sovereign, tequesting his
ohm to make this esplanation ; and with that
mess and condesconeioa which cheraeleeise
wereign, and that kindness which 1 have uni.
'• received Irom him, he was pleased
tin my Petition, and give his assent to my
et. 'flies° ate the grounds upon which I
it myself before you. First, the iochspensa-
.ecessity under which I labour in justice to my
charater ; and, secondly, the gracious per-
m of my Sovereign. That, under sue:, circum•
•.'s, eve y thing 1 have to sae. will he offered
the greatest deference aid .re.,-ieft to my do-
n and to this House, I hope is utsnecessaty
to to premise. In the prese.it case, indeed, I
no tetaptation. I have nothing to say but
nation of my own Charater. My Lands, at
period to which I last adverted, you' know. teat
?rent and illustrious Statesman, with wham I
'e
-operated ( Mr. Put), and whom I cannot fr.*
'Mt but with sentiments of the deepest regret.
year 416dt, felt it a duty, in common with les
'4r-tits, to grant a lupe further indulgence te
eteolies of Ireland. Tnat ar y pea see. ante'.
lit!Z this *pinion, hat no design egetiot the
!1-1,.;:no, against the Csdra. u Siete.

•

(PRICE SIXPILIOCK

_ duty Governmeot
alto, tr submit their measure to the King ; if ne
approves, they are then to submit it to the ouse
and if he disproves, they are then to choose, whether
they are to abandon art: measure. or to pray His
Majesty to accept their resignation. The former
we thought our duty. In ISO, there was a similar
measure. but in that case the Minister resigned. lit
the present instance we thought that the measure
might drop, but that choice was not accepted.
and His Majesty thought proper to remnve ro,
and choose ethers. Of the proposition itself, a Mi-
nute was taken, in the shape of a draft, to be sent
to Ireland. But lam told. that it has been stated,
from a quarter whicib I am honed to respedt,
that there was a inisconceotion on the subjeft.
do not dispute that statement; I only meta to
slew, that we had reasonable 4rnund to cook:ludo
that the measure was fully underssotd by His
M .e•ty, without assisting that it wet so aaua ily
understood. Freon the moment I thosght other-
wise. I acknowledged. by giving osp the mcasare.
The halt of it-contitsid sew eletwypo —dm *fop-
thin or the Irish A&, and the extension. The
draft so composed and submitted to the IC ino,
contains a statement of the rust talons of t.,e
Irish aft, and proposes to open the army and
navy to all Catholic subjects, without climactic-,
noon the sole condition of only taCing the con,
of allegiance ;1 and, therefore, I do confess, that
when that strati was submitted to His Majesty,
it was with intent to bring to view the limits-
riens of the Irish Act, and the more eztensise
indulgence which so proposed to g.rmt.—
.ro this draft a citfficolty was'stated ; it is with deli-
cacy I mention, that a repugnance oat known coexist
in the mind of the Sovereign to the extent of the
concession which the Servants of the Gown deemed
advisable to make to the Catholics of the Empire.
But to that answer from His Majesty. a repo outs-
tion was sent, in the highest degree dutrfoi, and con-
taining every expression pf trveience and rrsjo
which the honest and principled Serra ;t: of the
Crown must ch:rish for the conscielitious feelings of
a beloved and beneEcent Sovereign. The result of
this tepeesentat;on was, that His Majesty acquiesce.',
and have his consent for the proposal of this mealy e
of Catholi, relief to the Pathaneent. Aoo y
of this representation was dispatched by Geve.e-
ment to his Grace the Lord Lieutenant of ITC•4IId,
and it went to 'the extent of the expiesions of the
Secretary of that lobleinan, that every feeense was
opened in the lithoary Service to the Catholics,
without any other resuiction than secure their al-
legiance and attachment to the Throne.. -Upon this
communication to the Catholic Body in 'reload, a
deputation from that description of militias waited
upon the Irish secretary, to ascertaio whither the
present concessions emended bioher than the Gene..
rals on the Staff It was observed, in answer, by
that Secretary, that he presumed the olijeß was to
open to them all Commissions in the Military Line.
This dispatch, as received from Ireland, was by His
Majerty's late Servants immcdiateiy transmitted to
the King, and returned by him without any obser-
vation or comment, either upon the nature cd the
demands, or the line of coodu:1 he was anti ass
his Servants should pnrsot.. But this was not all.
as the draft of another dispatch, intended for Ito
Irish Government. and containing the specific clause
whiel. were submitted to Parlian ect, was sent to I. $
Majesty ; and which, in nod give. arrested II I
determination expressed by the • Irish Secretes);
but, On the contoary, empowering the Lord Lieute-
nant to give an affiimative answer, to the questit
pal by those Gentlemen, who were delegated to aak
It. by the Irish Catholics With such undeniable
eieconastarres, stated to your Lordships. I ask, Was
it possible far the late Servants of the Crown to
bar. done more t Was it posoble for any honoura-
ble earn to have condufled themselves with a mote
delicate feeling for the wishe. ,•f their Sovereign ;
and, with a true and consistent re%p.4l for the bug.
gestions of their own Or igment, arid tit,. support of
their owe consistent) ? What then, I ask your
Lotd:hips, most he the ::attire of that accuse-
tima ; ishat the feelings of those, who a:: thus
accused, when a base endeavour has been made
to libel the cliorafter of myself and colleagueos
and to cconninicate to the public, by anntilatiti
statements g to the onservations, sign. j
A Pratestaa, in a Morning Paper) that we
had &dually betrayed and deluded our gm-
ciQur *teenage I Vi a miita have errata--wt swift

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in its full went. It was is the spirit of
Irish Parliament, to open both alike to the
lies, and the instreEtions received from this
by the Noble Earl opposite to the (Earl of
inghantshire), then Secretary to the Lord
nant, were to that effeß. There is another' i, t
which you cannot overlook. It was found -
dient in Ireland, in irik. 13 open to Protestant
:enters, not only the army and navy, bat all (Aces
whatever. When, tbisefore, ii fell to the lot of my
Noble Friend, ill 1793, to open the army and navy
to Roman Catholics, there was r.o cause foesspenirg
it to Protestant I,dis;enters. In England ca.r
is widely different; lot Qom tt• I.Xweaker
any arfaerifwvern! wit to W 11n-t
• dna' WIN_ PA ap slop Jr Eat
✓ 511/511: 10A-Criatheirom gut pistenters
• be admitted to avert thing, anti she English pis.
• seaters would b• escladad; and f kraals to knot,
opon what principle you can give tp the.C.Mholics.
and withhold from the Protestant Direentetal:—.
t There considerations in41141:01 0.
.01rillest
t justize, policy,m
and asa= moo, eelpipose
should meet the whole case in the dugs olinlow.
to enable all descriptions of Hii IsfaiestriMiltreet
✓ to contribute heart and-hand in the comma cause.
t Such was the opiaioil which I wished to seismic to
Parliament. I take the 'ptinciile which should
e govern a Member of Parliament to be this
t It is tilt duty of an ordinary Member to pleb-
e mit any measure which he thinks eunducien to
it the public good, e •ftvt those within the put'•
h liar province of the Members of Government.
n It is the duty of the Members of the Government