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iiidered as the coeoonm, rotifer Asa the emitter
-et' the worst abuses. at felt dillitiewee in press-
ing this natter tapas the eowiderati.. of the
Homer, slier the fats of Deviant's Petition. But
•s the proem Aides antallkie ar. eireeeigia°

particular been
upbeat teak' be Mode It the House of Lords. He
, was not qeitgaties that the Hesse *1 Lords mold
appealed to fir the miles of • pond of lam;
• hut whether it sierras of trot, conveyed little hope,
to a party admitted like the Petitioner. They all
retnetubet•ed Rome Tooke's reply to the same ob..
serration, when tahl dust the laws were open sir all—.
.tr So sa the CU; of Leeds, TIMM." Bat when the
enormous expeeme of parr pomerdings wet pone-
dewed, it waelA be allowed' that of Coeds of Law,
like the iuo in Goldsmith's Poets, it might be said
that they only
toviseg peasingausegem who make pay,"
and certainly no tubas. The House of Commove
was the proper foe the ootoitleration of she
subject couti its the Petitimeaml had itself este-
lowed the tight of the Pinitioaers to be !want.
When the Hesse of Causasem wart Making a
greed *erode for the privileges of the people as
• m for -their own privileges, they cared
nothing for the decisions of the Comte of Law.
When the else of a committal without bail
irecu r Bed, and appeal wee made to Sir Nicholas Hyde,
who heel So anasositted • party, mod the other Shore
Judges of the Clerk of King's Bench, they coo-
grated the driieion in ravens of oubsilable com-
mittal. Precedents were gamed in abundance,-and
- sowing the nes_ woe io the reign of Blierbeili,
«hie* had been decided by Lord Coke, and was
eonseiptentiy ansch dwelt upon. But whut said
ill r. l'yus, to all the Caries ? "As to the judgmetas
ef the Cessos,.hment• quite sore that they were
suisrecited, sod he revered: three a Committee
skiruld be appoisted by the Howe to esamine the
precedents." The Committee was appointed. Upon
their Repast followed the celebrated reMintion of
the House; Mid epee that the immottal Petitioa
"f. Kretas am headed. whirls had aeceeedidi the
iseraretant rig* hitberto pomessed by the people
•t Begised, *Nigh they messed to be now ready
to depart wee more. It Might be said that the
cases were net the tame—that the °cession was •
great one—bid that for the present case it was 001
suflicieut importeage to engage the attention of
the Hauer —de *Minis won corrals ter. Bat it was
tropovsible to obtain a remedy elsewhere. It would
he in vain to appeal to • Judge in his own Court
• against het owe deeksion when sitting at Nisi Purrs.
it was impassible to contend that the question in-
volved mold come within the jurisdiction of the.
Courts, bee• Use if it were so, it would be itnpos-
robte to say to whet objects their power could not
be extended. If there was no usage to quote for
site exercise of the power in questime-it was idle to
plead nos-wager!. A !greet number of cases
might be quieted to which Judges hod been grossly
initiated. yet slist•ose of them had ever committed
the offender. [line he worst over the cases which
be had quoted in sapient of • similar argue
merit on Davirea's Petition.) He pointed oat
the donee of searing sny infringement on
the rights of the subject. Trial by Jury itself
couldriot be safe in the face of such encroachments.
Ir would bedew soar, as it had been in Sweden;
being eveletwally abolished altogether iu the 18th
century, after hewing first fallen into disuse from
the corral/lima of the Court., and the general spa-
the of the people. There were instances to sheer
what fatal eliketo erere likely to follow front the suf.
ferance of the practice complaioed of by die Yeti-
titiOuers. In the Traverse Court, Ilursemono
_oer-
lane,. • responsible priest'," of the metropolis (Mr.
M'Creery) . whose noun mast be wen known to all
who bad read lisscoe's work., had been summoned
twattend on a Jury. Retook secession to represent
to the Court that a plan very much resembling the
pecking of Juries had been resorted to, as another
Juryman bed declared shut he would not sit in the
earns box'with Mr. Ill'Crerty, because hr was con-
voiced that he would toyer consent to • verdict
of guilty, the charge • being 1.1. r a political
offence. A Justice of-the Court. named Mourn,
threatened to commit Mr. M'Crerry, and added
'het he was itonoiuced that Mr. M'Creery was •
most improper person to sit opou any jury. Here
was sufecteot proof of the necessity for the House
to interfere. 'Ass. the plea that defendants very_fre-
quently aggravated their offences by their defences,
test roust of course homiest on a charge of political
libel. Dosing the trial of John Hum, the whole
defence was an aggravation of the original offence,
and an angry Judge would have hoed him on the
new principle at every step. The defendant was
charged with a libel on the House of Commons.—
Ks defence consisted chilly of proofs of the
greatest men in the "kingdom having said much
worse things of the House of COIIIIOOP3. Khoo-
pjtemy was in some sort a species of political libel,
rind us far as religion was connected with the Go-
vernment, the defence trust he an aggravation of
the crime charged. But them were restraints which
must operate on the minds of defendants. Flrst,
they rail the risk of having a verdict pronounced-
against them they were besides sUltiret 10
Tient indictment. lie controlled. es Mr. etsoper
bad ingeitiously done- that the power of eons-
- tiddrnialtly
&eerie lame
rend judges
addittim to their
Id het take all,
Ilk Might be
go 'pinion
Certainly
- Justices m
power was the_
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lawyers feathered sad mooed, end with me taieriet
directed paint blank waited the general isteteatif
the pwhhe." But that of our own times. The lets'
Lord Chief Justice Ellenborough, ie I eOA. had de--
elated that any thing woe • libel *bleb woe likely
to give paints Say one of his Illitlesty's Minima%
The opinion from its alevardity had slowly bowie
Shoal rte. The present Chief Jostiee of the COGINDOIS
enniplaised of the harshness With which
Chief Justice Camden hod treated the,deeteleste
and memory of .Judge Alibsoi.,.tbe orellespe
Jeff.ries sod really osissearinehisth atteMng
disrespectful onght tale nitwit least of the
Jorlees who tried the Seven BisleSps. The present
-Judges of the King's Bench hod decided that
writing wis• equal to publishing • libel. He had
heard with his own ears Judge Best my, that
the writ of Habeas Corpus ought be refused
on the first _eppliestion, and the I.Coftalli
Judge very gravely quoted • eise, obit* he
said would be funnd at page IU4 of H. Meek-
slimes *qua's. Upon his (Mr. Hobboese's)
turning home .(lie would not say when his home
teasel that time)—( Lorgfiter)—he aosght for the
ease seconding to reference, mid found that it was
that of ihreelicattish sailors, to whom the writ of
Mabee' Corpse was dented. because they went psis
antlers of war. and' net' entitled to the rights
English 'subject.. The opinions of the Lawyers
were not more to he respected upon **eh questions
in geoeral. Ile himself had hand the Leasied
Sohettor-General drawee that all the miry
which he (Mr. Ilohheinte) Ind quoted on his
own behalf had beery quoted by Cooper, in a
case which was ruled egeinit hint. Now it hap.
petted that he-hid Cooper's speech inhie-hand, sod
not one of the cases which he fuel mentioned to the
.Court was quoted by Cooper. This was a pretty.
fuir specimen of the candour and iegeostiosisem
with which high professional adoicetes cemented..
the maxims of constitutions) law, and quoted the
eathorities. The epipions of Judges or of Lawyers
could not, thowefore. be takes for gospel me oath
subjects. Bad motives would he etterbeted to him,
bet no one could be fitted for, public business_
who was captible of being affected by
.sweit
paper bullets of the beans" Whatever- re-
spect be might hive for the, Members of the
profession, he could not he blind to this eoasidera-
_tion, that men of great talents in the law some.
times made themselves useful while au thole*
Oppositioti) side of the House. lthecente desi-
rable to withdraw them; they weer bargaisted for
it the current prier, mid betides that.. three was the
rst•tmp,of the Chief Justiceship of Chester always,
open to catch them ; they were promoted, and it i
was not in hussau nature generally to forget their
creators in the days of their advaneessent. As he
had once said uf•the Lords, they, might be mg
teen, but they could not be better then mew
It would be asked if he meant to chargeoserepi
tion upon the judges generally T Between A..amil B.
he believed the English Judges so be the best is
the world. It was toptistible iw Englund wait
on a Judge, es in Florence Mad some other Places,
before tint', anol putting' five goittessistis hie head, -
beg him foe God's stake to secure abodes:llion. Bait
it was not. tie lets lice essery to watch the'ireltnisies
fronton ofjosiCe. when it must be evident that there
were questions on which the Judges noiebt be tempt-
ed to Kite the best possible_ construction to that
side of the case wherein those who lath advanced
them felt the strongest interest.
Mr. Serjeant oiroLow went at tome length into
• reply to the arguments of fireflies Mt-taller fur
Westminster. lie conceived that there was no-
thing in the argualeat of no cases esistiog in the
books being nu objection to the power of- fining,
Wants% if any such cams had pasted sub !Wade,
they would not be found is the hooks He con-
tended that the power of abridgiog petional liberty
was equal to the power of fining.
Mr. C. V t Wynn would not object to the Peti.
ties, but that he understood it to contain com-
ments on the proceedings of the House, 11l which
case
.it must be rejected.
Mr. Mencius' said, that the expression of the
Petitioners was, that *• they bud heard with re-
gret," and 010 on. •
The Petition was then brought up and read.
Mi. Hoeitouse moved, alter • few olnervatioos,
that it do lie on the Wile.
Mr. C. W. M'lr N X wished to hear from the Chair
if the Petition was not objectionable tat point of
form ?
The SPEAKER was of opinion that the Petition
could nut be rerei,. 41. became it referred to former
proceedings of the House. He quoted two recent
cases in favonr of his opinion.
Mr. Des 91 A II hoped that another Petition on the
*objets., not objectionable m point of heat, would
be forwarded,. This discussion lied originated. as
well ea the daintily in which the House found
itself, resat the 'ejection, *Omni having heard it'
ishd, of the Penton of Davison.
After some further discossee. in which Lord
Cestiereagh, Mr. Seidel 1, the A tturn-y-Generel,
and Mr. C. Wynn took pert, the Petition was with.
shown, with an understanding that if one his ob.
,}Miserable in point of form should lie presented,
it would be received, and the subject takeu into
catpiderstion by the Howie.
lir. W.. COURTIINAY poutprated his twoliew ramie*
Is the claims of ilio Athericas LAwalina, • to Wwisteselay
tot 14th nog.
Br. HUME post saod hi. swiss restive to the resume
of army seavire, till t•-tierrew.
AGRICULTURAL, DI,STRKSS.
Mr. Guocu rose, in porstiance'of the nonce be
had given, to moire for a Committee on agricultural
• distress, and he lioptal.thit if the [loose consented
to the appointment of ilia Committee. they would
iutrust 'hens with full powers to ivestagste she
egoory of that distress...se/ report their opinions
accordingly, and point out the remolitti. if any
could be applord. to remove it. Ile•atiaai s felt ea-
Isetaut to obtrude himself Upon the notice of the
House. ',jut utver.tifore so these on the present Geo*
sion. He saw clearly the many difficulties that sees'
rounded hum, and the very delicote'groutidoni which
he had to tread,, for 'tech_ milieu he emit! have

sincerely wished ,it led relies iuto abler hands
was csalladeei to •
te be ihmeolisatititil""ilevel;"; party fthatlinF(l,:uesbelde"-
ed,,eed he hosed the Geedqpies
,pwmbt the eivesosittee to piloted to the investigt -
tims wittiest iotradocing anyinsiimeet of that kind.
k wits a qoestiest of the first imipoltance, revolving
mitten of the (highest corsidendips. lit affected
the great soarers of oar welfare, the prop of oar re-
'epees sad was so closely altamotost With all the
'thetas that it appeared to he sea and Use same. •
Waterers looked owe agriculture as the basis and,
foondatise d oar inttioted prosperity, it was the •
support on which itU the rest must deread. He
siacerely trusted that the prayer, of the Petitioners
wsuht he attended to. The Holm, be was sure,
'mild look to the cher:tetras of the Petitioners...-.
They were not Petitions signed by every school.•
boy that could write Ifis name; they were, I;e
might' say, the heart's blood of the country, the
Femme of the country, the most loyal and hides-
raises, and the best deserving chime" of the comma-
oily. If the bitterest enemy which this country had
wished that a curse might fall on our heads, he
could not wish for a greater one than these Peti-
tions should lie span the table of that House moo-
tended to. It hoe been stated by • Noble Lord:
in soother place, for whose opitsions he had a high
regard, that one of the grest.eauses of the distress
iu the country proceeded from the soperebuisrloneo
of the crops. Notwithstanding the respect he felt
for such high authority, he was sorry to soy*
could test agree with him.—(Near, hear.)—There
was another branch of trade, the malt, upon
whirls he thought the Cheacellor of the Ezcheytter
laid too much stress ; he seemed to think that that
was owing to the. superabundance of barley. He
(Mr. Gooch) could not Sod the cause of the die:
tress in that circumstance. The fact is, that sons
further protection most be afforded opined foreign.
prod ace, if they wished to save Ilse country from ruin.
. lie was not one of those who thought dirt the pre.
sent Corn Lows were very beneficial ; there "seesselll
to be some radical error in them ; they dirloot seem
to work well.—fififear.)-There was one point con.
uected wish them to which he had a great objection,
he meant the warehousing system. Gentlemen
who were bat farmers, sod he (although a mall
one) knew enough about it to soy it was a
lousing concern, must easily perceive the dis-
advantages of that system. When he heard
the frequent and universal complaints of the
people, which he knew were not made without
sows, it was impossible, unless he were made of
Model not to feel for theta, and to express his oPi-
felons ii that House.—(Hear, hear.)—There are
. at this nioniedt 800,000 quarters I.f corn warehous-
ed; moment r scarcity appears iii the mark. t,
the hooter irises to work to prepme his corn for tile,
the warehouses are opened, this corn is crowded in,
and.theftwaser brings his core to dispose of it
glutted 'market.—/Hear, shear.)—This is the effect
of the warehorisieg nano. In fact it is like the old
story of the _sword.- It is suspended over die head
of the farmer by a hair, remly to fall every eloquent
and cot helm to pieces.....(fieer.)—The object he
proposed was, to seek relief foe the most valuable•
part of the State. In order to ascertain that
he would refer them to, the three great soutces.'
of our national wealth. The lion. Member thew
• read from a paper which be held its his hand a
calculation from different schedules, in order- tit
phew the value and wealth derived: from NO..
cohere. Ile could assure the Howe, he did not
do this for the purpose of making any ravichouto dis-
tinction,. By these returns it would be found that
the general sources of agricultural revenue were hit*
three to our. If it were the *ish of the House thlit
this country should stall remain. what it had alwasa.
been, a greet commercial and agricultural nation, ;
and sot sink into what the enemy of their country.
(Bonaparte) once called them, a mere " nation
bosilkoire," they would go into the question raid*:
stud honestly ; if they did this, he still had hopes
the country might be saved from ruin.—/Heer.
bar./—The Hon. Member concluded by moving—
•' That the several Petitions presented to the tinnier
from various ports of the ementry. on the 'abject of Airirill-
tural Dirk's% unsaid be refereed to a Select tkommittee,
mad report thereon to the House."
Sir EDWARD KNATCHIULL seconded the me:
Bah-4We are sorry dust, in consequence of the
low tone of voice in which the Hon. Gentlemen
ztylse could only be beard distioctly at intervals In the
J—He brad to complain that 1111mieless had dime
1101beitg in tritest the distresses of the- country; mad ha
*Whig this, be begged to he understood that lie did Mil
Moon tw impute any Manse to them—fur he knew this AK
71104eamitill Sans any indisposiiion to alcurd relief, for if
literaritiampoiated with the Mistresses. they would provide
•denitrig.: Wal there were o:her difficulties he Toond in the
a the subject-there were the natural jell..
.I=lllll. amouhrtarest and here he lisped with
his flormarshis Prima who brought forward Ilse eo-
sin, that au opposition of that kind should be made.--.
It was awl fur Ibsen who were &immune' fur the ',eject,
to enter foto dimmealbre On masters of pub* kill economy with'
Geodesics -alma Whit/sled them meet exclusively to the
tweekkreskee of them esessimo. meatiotied Gee
lie: a ramie! the Home from being Isd away by
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so maser how ism...imolai, fruits the +practical
which the measure he had the honour of seemed-
lug was calculated tv produce. Their of.ect was to do,
aka lie.kliesed would he a runenson Immiii loth. reentry,
willow lie boat Melioration to raise lire price of emu or
Wise commodities e'reimey to the support of human
We. 16 was with mom amilidaisso, therefor*. she/ he soh.
unload the P'steeitte• N the Home. Of the existent-rot' the
diatreawshe complained, this very reartivpulie afforded abun-
dant proofs. For at the very unvoiced he was selddessiag
Ilona slaw ni-jority of the tradnenv. mold not teems**
Magic shilling in pa)ment of astir bills. They did not bring
feeward the.mutio• fur the purpose of prictising deluiion,
hat lodises's the question hirly. lie was free to admit
that if the farmer lovi for the last Are yeses been receiving
ids. a quarter for wheat, thee his ease was not se strong as '
it .appealid. Ile cleated that the gel were a Air eri-
krietes, and nen they was assay Aniline" short of 716. He
work, out then enter into details. Ile was Winn' as-
, Irwin to occupy the time of the Howe; sough hss to
motto an exaggerated sialaranst; bat he would wets
ciao ,eircoinseassre that came to . his own knowledge.
Them wore in a part of the somery with which he
was acqnstioted, five parishes, in which them were
acres, which were all either ghee up to the landlord or
threats mat of irehisation. That eireuesstarce weight lend
'to money woe idea of the state of the emstry. He was
firmly persuaded that-the importation of emu two year*
ago was felt by the bruisers at the present cloy. Ise the ob-
: seimetlesos also of hes Hommrable Primed (M r. Geroch), with
mewl to As warelsousiog system be belly ecroeurred. He
olitaiired is to hare a soest isjori:ma infante' en IM eget,
eutioriin. Thom was serather ipsivasirmr s which be begged
to-atoll.the anomie. of the Weir, sot far themeless of
Pliag Asensio., host to sheer that it had am wiped •
att" if thine grhe toppoeted the motion fora Cu..
sass. Nos onivirmy of the country, which hod'
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audio lagged the Noose net to Se Lrawae dingy
.alias or milekets which did set bear, at lead lan-
iseirtile lovelies betas thew le his opiates, mem-
Hy, was she beefs or trlekb the Goverameel if the
should be flooded; end militate% it might not be
espreheal S. rodent the taxes, still a mersiievable reduction
in the public exproateve night be mode in the einem of a
year, by • red:taloa Jo the estimates; bet„ it Gentlemen
tame to the eensideralion of the question with a is.. fide
deteireinstioa to oppope it, and were disposed le soy that
Gentlemen on kis side of the Donee were the cause et
ell the expenditure, he must niftiest" them, that that
was the,worrt way in the world to (Sett ocomsavy. Then
was • point of great importance on which he wished to ex-
press himself dtssinetly. It was the public &ht, sod he
for ewe sever would lend his support lo say step that world
teed to 'violate the public faith with, the anatomist creditor.
Whatever views the Hafer tea! take of the question, that,
at leave, shield be preserved invielete.--(ffeer. fser.)—
If the country be is diems, it is the Amy of all Meson to
bear their proportion, hut the burden shweld met fall no
one class eacieuitely. Here i.e begged to allude to an obser-
vation which be had heard made in that Howse (he did slot
do it invidions)y), that the landed property bad lam mat-
reseed for the oatmeal d, M. To this sestement he meld by
no
melees aosent. The country moo beatortgagert generally,
bet Womb an sefortwontectomitiosis that everdsualdincese,
there would he in security for the oatiasaal credits. in the
landed property of the nitwit. It has been said that
the resolved of the as on linAtandry horses would alined
great
,rellef to the agricalturist. .111 e did not shish so;
be *ever heard a farmer ray this She abolition of thin tax
would produce say very impurtaut relief. He wished mance
to the House his ideas with respect to the Core Lition A
small increase un the importation of oats, awl a patheesed
ask of priees' varying aceordirg to the price's/ Neilisk
corns weft the only alterations he rhootal amigeal is these
laws. Thee., he tbeeglit, world lead to the meet hoselleeat
results. His honourable Friend who Aptraell
the mottos had slated, and stated truly, that a vas
the basis of the prosperity of the aatiase. Be dertellage Mee
revel, hoped that these Petitioners shall sot hove ,rent ha
rain to Oar Howie Air protectioa—iffette)—for irkilsollf,
&pee of despondency they may., idol, three still estate
amongst these the same loyally that ever Arr. did, lad lbe
•iair atn-etio• and nitschnseut totter faxing and the coustitta-
sioo.—(H'ear, Leer.)—The flue. Gentleman sosctuded by
second mc the motion.
Ale. ItOßlritiON observed, that not only from lite silta-
tion which he bad the honour of tillitig, bet from the peen-,
liar intention is which he stand wills respect to the questiosi-
' b- fore the House, he felt ansioes to take the earliest spree-
tunity of making a few observation. ' What lisetopic was
isirodiired list pier, he felt it his eapiesissbe use.
tires that induced hint to think it wee Ow emu/
with the request. lie then suited,' Wit orlialsese aisivi
prevailed, it was norsattrihutable to the eats mi kir%
that Oakes • specific remedy meld ipa,propesail tee the ihri.;
tresses of the country it was nit silgslilhitt to salt AM
propoeitioa ai that lime. it 'tin he eel/ diet tirom pa
aril pried*. are applicable to all timers, bet these ann
considerations of espedinery that Timid asked at
time of inquiries, that' would be allierwards rejeliiii:.
it was precisely is that silt-Adieu that be found biateelif
then. To him it appeared exceedingly strange, how me
man could bear the frequent cud general complaints of die.
trees, so matter what objectioas might he made to the aide
versnlity of the statement, and remota isditietwat.--(Bereli
isar.)—He cook nut conceive of *hal materials that man's
toiled could be composed, who, awoke sick tweleastasers
could remain hasensible. He was soave that frees Abe
course he now pursued he might Maur the of Memo-
agleam. With that he shield tat be repomieW ;al Much
was so iacessialmay if which lams not ""boated.-{liana,)
With retard to the objects to which the CuanieSiMee should
dived tlkir altaatioo, be wee aid desirous to impose any
restraints. k had Ores him 'Maracas* tubes., both from
the Hne. Rawer Mediffielliet, to refeereee le two subjects
' adverted S. kr astiorilast Alleseeimia, that no reit( allosi4
be 'Seeded to the afriesitori4, either by effretieg the me-
rcury, or sishiliwit Hie rellike ihilla 'TM oast robs was
taxation. Ho had so whiseeiosdtat At Committee Should
consider skit part of the loestiela bet Ittettiorult leek to it
with a view to its erect ow the pub& audit. Fa It be-
comes's extremely important eaosideades, whethersey my.
lag that meld be affected lethal way.bpaitabefition abuses
Avoid be applied io the relief of agricultural distress. Us-
le se the Hesse wire prepared to say, es a Emend view of the
etimiwarat, that they bed elien4oowl all hopes of derbaeg
name to memo the public dad •tbey Daly deloded them
selves by the ides that by any or:Mations of teneitien relief '
mould be aflatleal to the agrieulturta. He was metals that
the Committee would take • clear, • ormipiebiestri, eat
statesnistolike view or the ease, sad silos so "testiest of it
party, a private, or kieal.natete, to iallkseace the eollehilef-
.atioll of • subject, the meet impartial Ilei tow oat of
moo could he called •pne to etiesider.—(franrel)allal--
A eery great delusion haibmo practised ea theagehildlorid
with respect to the protective afforded sgaMeat fonts pro.
Ades. He was midden( that ibere was wen • singly let 4,
• *fee petitiosters who did not believe that Ate prams of
fameirt soils could be impaled to this count-y without deity.
llfhe feet was quite otherwise. bid ed, le Mit, whew the
sorory was is a lieterialtiog conditioia, a lasatity of tee**
gspliere might have bens admitted Without day, bet ft io
tat the case now. Be coast enumerate a cataloger witlmat
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afartieleo of forties produce on which the duly Aso hem
sqpilideiobly iacressed. .He could not coutisde obliged ear
isreadmplis 'hooks to the Gentlemen who bearish' fesoolitiq
the question, fir the. calm, and judieions, and
moaner i• which Way introduced it, fur he was !
Mat it was thebilealhation'ol such a spirit late the.
.11611 conW WOW% Pvidoetive of adeastage. If they 1
any feeliapraltihnetilitys or jarring of interest's, to iis
WI their emalkiltAkimpa, they wield affect no good. lie .1..,1
Ilet, of Cligliiik 11011.11111010 estimate the altimate result ofiliedy 1
Impirits.- 111100.041/A.dig be Ilk tenstlt, tome good be ha-
•so the eimit4lgididte. Wet staid swap, to the.. ll.'
three paid WO., which had. hot losiipileit moil pinta
irelliolliall, flowitslabii• anent of that propeoltio• Mould have
neeteall effect is relieving the arolety of the plibbe. It
wsulsl at least sbew that the Howse of Coneiroatts was not is-
different to their Petitosna, and that they were ready to take ,
their di.ti eases into eisosideratitio,
Mr. CURIVEN week' eudeavoar io triton the. 1111101.,
Bei. Gentleman ai well as be could He shoed& net ofico
the ease as it concerned ore past at line 'public, bet Ike
wkitle, lie was sot disposed to chaser 'the Bight Has.
Prfm,lent of nor Board of Trade (lie. Illediesa) for eat
acceding to the appointment of a Cemnailitee last yawl
but wisest he heard Hsi partial conamili4ao We S. this Cum::
mile*, he could not augur very favorantAk from ii. Although '
41rosed to the strmipessrat of wassiiisit-e. be wield
lint Mielatets mime net tor. Islamelleothe distress of
fag country. Ile Vaught that greet.l4llame attached to
Opel ; fur we must osygent shoo Nap bouglas leeward ao
-PlPMeres to relieve the iiplepillautif2=lllo/ WNW igi.e•
nit of its existence. Dishresole 01l prisms, Ore-
railed of so alarmiag a eaters, thee if tel speedily temseed,
all remedies woaid.he melees. He did sot wish to exagge-
rate. He disclaimed all motives of bormility, bet it 'his se..
sertions were well founded; he had a right to call oil 11111..
riders to retrench, end sedate the taws, the only nay
of affordieg relief.--( I leer hear}--He would ask lbw
Noble Lord opposite (Castlereagh), if- the tine of as WI;
vislesl embitcasseseut were subeoisted to him, hew mad'

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he first begin? Mudd set the met liwitepeselost be, wield
eras the eneosie of his litLlo sett limiuse! The first qms-
hos thee for the Rifilel Ike. Gesticulate - opposite (the
ChaSeellee of the Exchequer) to ask is, what is the real state
of the tweaks ? la the most prosperous porioi of this mem
try what wee its remiss?-490 asilboas. What thee wee
the ameseseet of Us lean?—so weilliosts. He would ask whe-
ther there is not et least oie-third of she memse decreased?
The average of pale la sheet Ilits. which is • reeleilioe bf
shoat wee-fourth se ',apiculture. Well, them, the agrieultmeal
retell" is d'•"lmmi seo-telletle, while mambas is itusemerf
S per mai. HoreOleem, was muss of the ;real causes of die-
Imes-t-thre mosamme timeliest seder whisk the cometry
labours. The trbehereatal selbsghtud, leviamd, sad Scotlasis
11.410 es mat recruit SO INN* WWI 411,004,011111. When we see tam
' atiae beeseme 1w a* lames ratio as properly decreases, k is
lerepesellele that' mum remedy &mild net be afforded, sad tiet
remedy eau dem be Imhof fur lo she emluriees of meatiest.
It 1r1164. reef Waage/mud Altai the emesemptio• has ail
bees decreased. took to the article of tobacco, so muck

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toed amongst the Lower clan's; font to the article of shots,
• on both of which there is a cousiderable Whole off in coo.
sampans. Amy man aerposiniel with the distresses of
the poor, asset he aware that there le no elms of per_
soot In a 4111110/e distressed stone than the shoemakers.
He speed with thug, who deprecated such • price of grabs
as would be Moses to the other classes of the emenionity ;
1 sad. ea the pert of thirigricsoltoristi, he extemsty Nommen/
she wish—isll that was norms' was i fair proteetioe. He
would call upon the How. Member fir Nottieghato tad the
gallant Geasal (fee A. Iffilsou). to sin if the kr, prier of.
victual bad crested a situation of eipmfort.--(finte, beer.)—
ft was, he coatended, the want of the roneemption of the
egrineiterists (white from their distreesed state they were
unable to taint) that was they mention of tin restenal his reue
which pervaded all ebeserpr. The orieew of that alistrees of the
farmers, was the has of that frfty of envied widen
they had recenolestestakted, as he hail etedelevent to stereo
unit nothieg evil be of Ole service stanch dor sear po doe
lentil') of restoring the agriciriturixt to the power of Neill
strain as Airiest camerae. None fret a mailman rem
desire that a price oto bigh should be *Led us aimed proffieref
the same distress me now esoi.ted from low min.; tithe!
extreme email ha alikedeureetive and should be avoided.
Adverting to tLe price at which earn eauld be pewit
abiroad, be happeeed to-be map/infest with a great Polivii
preprietor, who ieformed him that if they got es. pie quer,
I ter for wheat it world pay, bet that Its per gooier would
be a sufficient resineserating price ; mid lie solid therefore
ask bow it could be atipposed passible Host the farmers of One
asientry should ecoms..te • ith a country whith coolie gmn
wheat at sorb a price ? The Noble I nu/ opposite *peeing
with the great authority of me sudiridoal wheat It nut
meeessary to same, says, that if the poor lead.' comet he
possibly eseltivaled, they inset be resigned: Rut I. pendoe-
tion err these poor soils which included all those prodeciag
about two gearing per sere, amowisted altogether to
shoot two menthe eioneneepthre, 'mid if the Lauds were
put not of entireties, whose eutld that begot? The world
could* not afford it, and them wheetheeeteeted the seirriems
of the emetry I. In mum seeded Irish tellies/ again the
risk of eariag them resenalid. deother pole! of view its
which. the subject should be Weed at was the Mosploperet
affurded by thecoWnatius of these lands: 300,000 lehoorerr
were employed, the value of whine labour was it least six
milhows annually. In whites of OW IfiSdtlfachores we in all
of them contained, could seek s usneher of pereeste dna
eurploy ? fle must press fur the attention of the Noble .
Lord to this sobject, which empiric) the deepest inounigor
tim, sod also .to another view of the sodograt,- Much '
bail had the saaction of the great iiithavity to uhiel•
he lied berme alledel but with all has resent our
that great authority be most decline, that we this
subject ha teil Not looked with the eye of • siatessems. He
Mod attributed our distresses to over: prietweties, bet, sir
pekt of fact, there was • decreased growth; bat thee. be
seen look at the slate of your nosekus; la that be (Mr.
Comoro) did look with ts.liumo of the greatest alarms. But
m did it helmets that with a related mania w* had a fall.
ins market? it arse from the 1 imentalde Mats to widele
the country was reduced by the diminished, teems of the
manufacturer, who formerly, it was calertated, required the
produce of fee acres of laud for his support ; but new from
his reduced swam, be was obliged to teases his esesomptiesa
of anneal food, spd he only required that quantity of pro-
dwee which ovoid' be pose on three acres, the quantity
which the tabourer fouseroly required, but whose inansweap-
lieu so. win of cooonle diminiebed in measly an eqoal yew-
parties. It was the ditty of the Government to hove halal
to the sithject lan year, Ise though there amid ant possibly
he a tame loyal clam of asses thaw she agricalmortete, yet
there was a pond at which it would become their duty to.
trite rave iallerovarlima, if the Guveruinent would amt.
other pret cense of the distress was the number of maps*
demise !simperers which ware already so large, and were
imeremiqg is member every they--(Hotrei keent)--sHe wool&
chilleage the Noble Lord tee ask • thuireend farmers if they
bad sot leaseeed the matioal Irimer on their farldie and he
"meld be content to give up the subject attogether if they
did mot 00111 sad all ,reply io the affirmative. And did mot
this pram the deteriersted stale of the country? adding
slats to the weight of the Poor's Rates, which acted is the
NOM manner as the taxes, wising with iscemeed vietemee
▪ dimioished meson Hs would repeat, although he wee
wet home out by the Howse last sight, that Partisans& bath
mot she power, hi Het peseta eleaserstances of tie emilitry,
to rend)* me great a prepeny ea the fuisale,' boo playing the
price of its prateener. He must sofa vepree OW the
tummies toast be reduced ; mod These he begged leave
to deny that the frequent ealla mode ois Misname fdp
renumber/met were'll dune with any view to hand oe
Make the.* Unpopular, but it ass their distmelthalioa
lista* to thread's which occasioned their fresseet reptitioa.
• the Ilincie mow scut into • Committee, sod whew they
same out they had sot come to some slums moieties
t which would bind the Mioisiers,ihry would have dome ini-
thing, and the hopes of the cavalry would he Miserably dis-
appointed. to asking for a repeal of the Hens Tax, be
eon aware that the amount was not meth, bet he
bad required it as a token rif the intention of Minister.
to afford -relief. The tune was fast approorideg okra the
requisition of the registry must be complied With, sad thine
who took the p eleha money for to service Mast eliagurge it.
mad those who load pitrunage mail resign it.. The imminent
was etipenething wbew the Noble Land atoll& tollmethee,eveo
though supported by the Howse, must come over Ili the
priaripli width he unneeded for—en economy adequate to
oer aeresainee.
Mr. WHITMORE them rose, but foe • considerable pe-
riod was neatly isaudilde in the gal:cry. Frew. what we
mold collect of the Hun. Member's apeeeb, be was slides-
Toad eg to chew the effect of our unrestricted corn trade with
Ireland, aed thoegli he desired that Indeed should be con-
siden.4l like our of Ibe comities of Soglaad, yet he could not
Loy out of view the aft ct which hid been thereby produced
ow the egrinsitere of this country. The came Mike drpres-
rise of price he cote:Weard to be not over-proidtietiall, IMO
over-sepely. lie it which it might, it was cereals there was
rather more grain offered ilia* the market Mehl ab-
earls ; bet be hod no doubt thin the erase which pre.
vented the amestry me/terrine its &mei prosperity 114 s
its great ienatimi, which obliged every thew, trill eticy
iedividuel, to retemieli and doininish his careoditure. The
panic: was, wh► ono rISSI emospleined, fin lost oat fur a
eprillideremedreiteMleoble to thelesemplainiag party abases
frakthe reliefs, be effiletind to be anorak; every local
apegliballuto would be is a vicious and *AWNS
tutee. To attempt to mho the price of corn beyond
MAW fletural halt 'meld be a prnceediie of Idiot hied. la
..eamehleriag the subject, he fined that reefs hasl iweltated
if -
tint quite, yet- aunty in the game propornou sethe price of
pent. This clearly app. amt from a man-own( nude to the
Lords' Committee, wi-re it was sheen that i• the year.
17941 the rent of 100 acres of land was SW 0. 3d, t* ISM
the same land ores at 121/. 2r. Sd. ; sad is Teti at
UHL Its. 1011. The present prices of coin were warty the
same as in 1140, and the advanced mot was still psi&
What would be the situation of an indhytillual wan possess-
ing 10,000?. a year leaded estate, benlessiel with mortgager.
he. to the amount of 3.0001. a peer, if by a chaste grit
the unroof, that (harry was effective!) leerealied to 4,0000.
a year, was it pessible for hits to routines-the Mast scale ort
expeadttere, mud pap the sem. automat of indireet taxatioa
He was persuaded tint the present prime could tot last, for
as the pour hail bad been brought into eukiestion by the
high price, eo they would be forma mired calamities by Oc-
tavo price of men. True it was that the whole of the rest
ow that land world be annihilated, yet that wet se evil
ski* peat a it eadowittedly was, would be over-lialaneed
by the beset* melting, mod he thought the moon it took
please the better; but tee feared that would ant be the whole
of the evil, tot that from timeline...hem the importations
from Ireleed.i-and from the poets' relies, men some of the
superior soils would be affected, and thee indeed the jute
or taxatioa oleos would be tremendona. Fenno the whole it
restrile4 that it was a mance of anolate necessity that rm.
momy should be resorted to, and unless tesorted to with good
faith, and a detenninstiou to inquire lute every broach of the
mopendithre, the situation of the country, bad as it was, would
become worm. With respect to the Cute Laos as they mood,
he meld see believe they would ewe move beeeligial, for
wine the price was raised to 80e. again, which it no doubt
would be, them the iniportatiom wowed take plan, and the
priers would be 'gain depressed. Though ho the abstract he
considered • perfect hee‘tu to be the most destraide, yet from
nesting circumstances, some prottctkoa was abeelvltit at'

erflectiag isirwlarroly se !be the/aster roreesdact
'of 'the Lammed Jed. I. wheat elision it referred,
o 4 Dui? list.tt "ibh .la: hot IM. _• neet
*writs Of Ai -"sit impsieed ism II the Howe,
he trulata Oil Ilbt House wwmb. teteeateie the
l'eulio6.•.ems that dim Mai' almalfir. who,
the mosseut astayivact 4 . skip, og jr*sonerr was
ruentiouell;,rolni ila as! 410,arst defamt* saw
duct esiu.la •. Wriald a this tame shissivi
from my such useless Islostw. He esillsoded 'use
the Heeee.ef !au the proper Oise, for
the lam(
..f the 'subect. It was net a
kluttet of P.iliamesegy 044, imato, Let it
sitsserislly alrertail lita privilsrs of the people.
Ilos4 It was quite idle •• Oa EOm •••ell 14).11.
elf to teref the tros tbis. or Mit
particular Coin for redrew. It ' been said that

lied very ingeniously done, that tlst poWer
'tutting for conlerupt which existed, to.
did not imply the power of feuding furl
offence. Ur thought the Courts the won
nu • questicw wluch mvOlired ochlitiwo
own power. Li such • rvoe be could hoe
t hot was sold by lodges forleavvi. 1114,
asked if he wits prepuce to set up
alesisest that of Chief ..loatiOe Abbott,'"
be would, or against ten thoissand Chief iu
• •411 lOW Sip iliolibon le their Ole power
arMitris dileate. He profeSsid opt to

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gre 1 atest respect far the spiniotts of peOgi M 1
fessiouai mess upon the censtructionacsoidtithand so
law. The 'celebrated author of Maim, Kr. H. or
rington, iiVeo in his time, observed, sPcohligAr -8d
the nistiossises- width he world dowse foe km .p
ideal date, toys, u 1 would sot bon any kiwi tit
there for this reason : I hove seer their bassoon k
is she Mows of Coonisoo. Thom 11 have seen os