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Mr.
Bank
tain Protestant Dissenlers
Act.—Ordered to tc Rrl Our
FINANCE REPORT.
The CHAN. er.ton of the EXCHEQUER moved
the Order of the Day for taloa into consideration
the Report on the Finance Revpluttotts•
Mr. CuawEN rose, he said, to trouble the House
with a few observations. Ile would be as willing
al any one to support the principle of the sinking
fund, but lie could not but feel a serious distrust
lof the conduct of Ministers. its the commence-
ment oT the Session the Noble morel (Castlereagh)
had given a most flittering sleseriptiou of the state
of the finances ; but it was clear that two great
branches of our trade, namely, the ev collets and cot-
ton brooches, are in a most lamentable situation.
In truth, it was centrist that blisii•ters were not
aware of the state el the country...that state was
indeed a state of growing distress. Woutil any
MID 101118.11Ited with the situation of our affairs say,
that this was the moment for larCreaiing the bur-
dens of the people ? Much had been laid as to
what had beets given ; but lot them consider
what lead been I.sst. Time income of the coun-
try lead been greatly dt:ninislied end notwith-
standisig what had been given up. he had no
hesitation in saying, that the present taxa-
tion was more severely felt than taxation had
been at any former period. One fourth of the
income, and one third of the wogeie of the people
were !eel. Ile was convinced that eight or seine
minim'. were reduced in the amount of the real pro-
perty of the country, and the amount of the in-
come tie trade was reduced front four to three mil-
lions. The country at this moment was not able
so bear the increased pressure of nitration. and yet
Ministers in this momesit of public pressure and
misfortualei all for three millions of additional taus,
without attempting retrenchment where retreeich-
mead could be made with public safety and ueltan-
tage. The cousemience of this public taxation
will be a further reduction in the demand and the
price of labour. Ile would implore the Noble
Lord to consider tier state or thee labouring poor at
this 1110:11ellt. Wos there ever u moment of greater
dismay ? No later thou Wednecolay last front four
to live thousand pribUllili met at the place (Carlisle)
vs hick lie haul the honour to represent, to exhibit '
their dreadful situation—a situation which could
not be contemplated without pain and without alarm.
They contielens that though they wrote from 1.2 to
14 hours each d.sy, they cannot earn more thou
ss. 9J. per week. Ile could siut but believe that
whatever taxes might Ire voted would only have thee
effect of iiicreasiiig the aretcheduess of the peo-
ple, without increasing the revenue of the country;
there oil toe a geseeral decrease in the consumption
of taxed articles, a paitiful state of privation to '
which eigurinuus taxatiein always leads. lie could
ouly leuk on those taxes in one light. Ile conch
dried them us most eilormoii*, impolitic, cruel,
aced repressive. The Alalt. Tax, for instance--
every Gesetleman knew that malt liquor was the
sccuetenottl and wholesome drink of the people—
of that they ure deprived by taxation, and they
are driven from that wholesome beverage to
the ace of pernicious spirits, which is destruc-
tive alike to their murals and their health.—
The tax on wool was another oppressive and
ieo-
poltUe tax—and the state of the cotton trade,
that most useful and beneficial branch of
will be greatly isijitred. Will the people, he asked,
submit tee these oppressions with cheerfulness used
patience ? NVill nut these measures create through-
out tier country the most uneasy feelings, and
streiesilien the belief, silready 10J prevalent, that
corrupt inilueuce, and not a wise and provident
sense t.l legislation, regulates the public affairs ?
The people complain of distress, and that complaint
is usisnered by new taxes, tried retretichntrist is
clewed. Let uny nom look into the same of the
Centinton—see how many officers receive IBUtifief,
oithout eerfortnisig any adequate service, merely
because they had been recommended nod supported
Ly the patrosiage of individual*. \Vas this a time,
be would ask, to persevere in such practices?—
was this et time to have public end profitable situa-
tions !Weil by deputy. ? Yet was not the case noto-
riously so in many, very many instances ? Ile would
warn the House as to the course they were about
to imbue. The people of Euglasiel were a ',elitist
and a grsierous people, but theme were limits to their
featietts:e ; he would nut say how those limits were
exceeded, llad they setts a fair
pursued with sincerity, lie was satisfied they would
es.dure ev et y possible privation, and make every pm-
sdsle &acidity ; lee had no claim on the attention of
bat he would soy to them. do Hot 'cress
this enormous weight upon the country its the
moment of her weakness and distraction; defer
the messure, and should, in the next Session,
the difficulties of the country not be removed, end
time necessity of the tax be mole appear, lie
would not wily trot oppose it, but we rad give it
his support. Ile accused the Ministers of a total
want of knowledge of the state of the country—he
implored theist nut to hurry the meneuic —it would
be a dangerous experiment, and before the next
meeting of Parliacutot they alight have cause to
regret it.
Sir Mame PARNEI.I. commenced by saying,
•that in the *prop' taboo of the siestittg fund tee
wards the louse the Minister has broken faith with
the public creditor. Noble Lord had taken
great credit for economy—he (Sir Ileury) did nut
see upon what groused. The House would re-
collect that during the late war, use the various
discuseions on the flisionces of the country
*lnch took place in that House, how oftets
it had been asserted that the expenses of the
Government far exceeded what the exigeticiee of
the war required. 'they were. too idle assertions.
but the solemn opiniesees of great and virtuous states-
men. But those opiuians were not acted 011,
amid
thee consequence was, that several utillious of mos
;my were wasted. In one department alone (tie
meant the Ordnance) no less thateidne mahout. of
money were *Moira Oil ViOfki which were of no
utility whatever. This money was of course fur flier
ever lost to the country. As to what had been done
iu the way of retrenchment rime time peace. lie
world say that the Noble Lord was driven to adopt
whatever retrenchments had taken place. During
the first year of the peace, was any system of ecu-

, ;nomy introduced ?—aone whatever. Was any dis- il.—ifiege.)—Not
position shown by Ministers to abate the expenses the • puttsa ho I
of a war establishment ?—none. lie woe cruse Sormer *hum vole for
vinced, that if the House had soot interfered, and a prime), tax—for
repealed the Property Tax. the country would are co
hillectedcould from these .brought into the
no retrenchment whatever. Retrenchment tin. wch be
daobtedly bad taken place; but that was not the , the least elpense.--effear..)--1. "
question—the House had to consider the question, ' demon (Mr. Canning) had last .
,_
Can any further retrenchment be in ide ? That i idea *X economs
y. situ
l d tal
ked leted olthe puny saving of
vast reductions in various departinelos might patch eosins a tha lien.
be made, he had too doubt ; but if )liiiisters Gentleman consider what 'airport even such sums
did not sincerely go about the work of retreat:he would give to respectable families, reduced to waist
'neut, if they did not adopt the determitete by the /heiresses of the country.-111ear.1-1-1e
lion of sacrificing the patronage of the Crown, then alluded to the expenses of the newly.acquired
which they now unhappily goseessetl, he was con- itian Is
Colooniers, and particularly t
ow the loland's
einced no real or effectual saving would be wide to
which ought to support their n military establish-
the country. The first great source of economy mesas. 'Otis principle woo, recognised in the Treaty
might be adopted iii the collection of the public of let? with the lonian Wendt:, end on stated in
revenue—there indeed there was great room fur the finance Committee. Why not then, 4 0,10
improvement end reform ; there were no less part of that Report were to lw acted upon, adhre
thin sitty•four Commissioners of Revenue, though I to another. by winch a satin of 12.0,000 i. might be
by far a smaller number would answer ell the sieved to the country ?—lo Celleli also, and in the
purposes. And here lie would recommend the Mauriti
Gen. us, grUeat e •Lgeill receiy ma
leanb l acqess uired. In the
cos4olidation of the Boards of Customs and Ir.'..'ee former rowtorig va onto th
cise.—a principle which. if sided am, would be 67,000/. fur 'ortecta alms; and in the latter, GtWerlint
attended with two great advantages—e saving{ of ex- Farquhar recoiled 4b,C00/. fur the same purpose;
prose to the loabloc, and the assurance that the and all these establishments, were to be kept up irs .
public bueintes would he inure satisfactorily tenet- i great part for the pageatery iki no.olitary establish..
acted. In the collection of the revemee of Ireland, innts,lo:goltl barorisand gold binding.— ( 4 laugh.)
there was a great waste of the public motley. loa --Geittlemett may I ittgli. but it Was no I.leet Of
that country et fry wasteful expreelit me Was carefully jocularity for the 1 people who had to, pay the
adopted ;in Esiglend the public Cuoirßiseitmers expanse, and who oere 'mettle to procure food for
were satisfied to receive their salaries, I.ut in Ireland their faiutlies. Ile would tell the G,qatlerrielo who
the head Commiettionere had sidelight! rewdeeces ensiled at his rem:alb that this pthe eeeeittrycouotr formed
furnished at the public expense. A greet red or:. no part el the real gran uf y, and
lion might be also snade in the expenses attending that 111 lash valour had attained it. character befota
the expenditure of the public money. lu the cx. it became decked out in bliell frippery.—( Hear.)
peroliture on the navy, the army. and the urduatice, --A variety of saviugs might be made in the inti.
there might be Vital:o66A a Noon; of twelve him. tary establislionents of the country, awl co ttttt neric-
'lrk dad thousand pounds. Another brooch of saving iag a ith the Itigheat, the COninsander in Chief's and
might be made with regard to the tail goveruineet the War OfEce.. M Ivy was the Commander in
of the couidry. In the Home Department, there. Chief (whose merits he most willingly allowed) to
perms amounted to !It MOO/. a year; hi theme Colonial recriie sixteeis guineas a day in AMU iiii to his other
Departmetd, the expeosts aniontinal to siamul.; allowances, in a time of peace ? Why was he to
the Privy Canned amounted to e7anerf. a year; be placed, in pullet of 041101min:id, su high above
and the expenses attending the office of Lord the other brunches of the Itl Family ? e
Lieutenant of Ireland, in torious Ware, amounted Windt duty of that depart mee had been dome before!
to nu less than one hundred thousand pomade a yeah the war. and might be door again, for little snore
Here lie couceietal their Was great ro sssss fur re• than 3.0001. a year. In the Staff. leo. a sum of
tretichosent indeed—anal it Minoltas were bliiCete, 3 jrOOUL might he reduced with Wifely and liati*faC-
tf they felt fur the distresses !since press upon time lion. la the Military College, and in the recruiting
people, they would adopt in every department a for the atter. 30.0001. sitight be saved—in the
strict and rigid system of econotny• This was the Ordnance Estimate, 130.000 L—iii the Ai my Ex-
time when such a system should be adopted, owl maltase:l6es. 1.50,00/.—iii the navy, a tooling may
he eittercd into particulars to 'thew the Noble Lord be also made without reducing the 'lumber of mess
that retstaichusesit may still be made, and to tam. employed. Agate, in the Mint. rotor geeing may
since the House that the Noble Lord and other I be made. and also under the head of Woods and
Ministers were in gross error, when they asserted Forests. lu the latter, the selling of borne of those
that all possible retrenchment (tad beau already I lands would bring; a large *um to the public, and
matte. It was not so ; much yet remented to be done I also sere altogether that expensive ettablislinsene,
—end until every thing that was 'towable Was done, I which he could strew to be unurceseary on its pie-
no further taxes should be placed upon the country. I sent scale. It Was ludicrous to talk of the necessity
Taxation at all times should be avoided us much of preeerving materials for British slsipping.frotts
as possible ; taxes, at the present moment of these forests. If accounts of the timber used fur the
public distress, should be the lest painful act of public service within the Lost '25 years were laid on
the Parliament. 'Pima lion. Baronet said, that a the table, the House would fibril see the sums paid
sum of three milliwas was paid on account of Ire- I elsewhere for timber, over and above the produceur
land, lie requested the attention of the House to ~IIthese forests, they would then see the useless ex-
the stale of tits expenditure in Ireland, since the petwe of this establishment. Agi s i iii in stamps a
Union. These expenses were incurred in the great saving might be obtained. In the town with
support of the Irish Government...4/f the heavy llwhich he was more immediately connected (Aber.
military establishment of that country; union- 1 dram), the stamp distributor hid 1,4001. for his
tuitately that establishment appeared to he tie- office, although men were to be found there who
ceorry in the opittirin of Gose ant. Vidor- would du the work for soul. and give 10,0001. sects-
tunattly little hail been done to reilloVe the greatl rity. Besides, the seller surcharged 10 per cent.
causes of public discontent. The system of go. on the price of the stamp to the buyer—( Hear)
verienent in tlwt country was a system of beer —and a'wr'y would be fitund to undertake the
--a system of intolerance...which Deer:lied but to OfflC,.. he was convinced, without any additional
/work. profit beyond this arbitrary one, which they them-
barrio, to alienate, and to inflame the
Hence it Was deemed necessary to support the Go- selves laid eta. Let the Right lint. Gentleman
verieneet, or, us Lord Clare hurl expressed it, •' to nose his sinking fund to whatever amouut he please
keep duwu the bridal Irish" by large reteblieltintatts eel, but let him precede his taxation by economy
mud heavy esoetirlittire. But had that course been soli retrenchment, commencing with the civil list.
udopleol which had been so often ro commended— Oil the last Resolution, if he stood alone, he rhould
had a lenient system been pursued, there would take the sense of the (lutist', sooner than comae.
have In. it sin incessity to overawe by force a people mince this levy or new taxes.—(//ear, hear.)
whom you had won by kindness, and housed them Culosiel DAVIES said that he had hitherto voted on
el„." than clams can boot ilicto—.ll the tics or every investare of reit 11111 l iy of thee 'mobile expendi.
gratitude and affection. and the centnion interest ture sauce he bad a seat in that House ; lie should
which freemen feel fur the Gove 1111 l trot under which ever be the advocate of the minutest retrenchment ;
they enjoy the 'Arse-nags of liberty. Ile would het, but, tan the premed occa ' ,he thought that a sur-
lie said, enter at large illle the subject now (whore plus or 4,000.0601. should be established. A 'auk.
the House, as au Him. Friettal of hie, much more me fain', while the expenditure greittle exceeded the
competent to enter tot th • consideration of the income, lie emseitlered a fallecy, but one fisted
question. was about to propose certain Resolutions. ninth the basis of 1792, lie thought would be pro-
Mr. I'VeElt. IV:ooRE cusimienertl by tot effeciirig ductile fur the advantage of the 'votary, and
though he could never tolerate an extrevagotit sink-
detail of the unarms to which the manufacturing ,
peeple of England were reduced :hr said that ',tale tug fund. i.e c3tild not yet think that 5,000,t3fig.
rut tradestileis belonging to the piece wllieli lie re- wasa all estraurolloary one for a debt of 800,000,000,
presented, worked for hours for a few farthings:, As to the postabils y uf raring; the stew taxes, lie
lie asked, were the Mimeo-re of the Crown re.
begged to reserve himself for ;a fuse opportustity.
quautted a ith the state of the country ?If they Were, Respecting the malt tax, he eitould way sal', it had
if they really knew the state of distress and always occurred to him that a fitter tax night he had
wretch...limas to which the people were reduced, On the iilliniflatool: ul foreign cars, which would, he
they were must criminal in proposing additionet was bore, be productive to a very great extent. As
taxes ; if, on the other band, they were nut ac. to the breach of public feith respecting the sink-
gusinteal with the state of the coutdry, they were I 'mg lurid, that breach of faith had been committed
will more criminal not to have informed themselves once the fund was originally touched. Ile was also
ash opinion that the louollsolder wits toi much looter-
of that importaot fact, before they proposed to
place three iniklions of additional taxes on the voted as the former in this qiiratiuti. He still
necks of a peel& already grinning: under bur- thought that a eitiltiog fund of net less than
dens which they Were no longer able tar bear.— 5.000,0001. woos urceesary. and therefore he could
The I luu. Gentlemen next pronounced a high sod oppose die lteenlietiosts which were submitted to
compliment uu the Reports of the C 11111 l flitter of the C 1111 l wither, from a couviction that extraords.
Finance. Ile said that the true Mode Of realm:nig eery tflarts had become necessary to re-establish
the debt would be by purchasing when the funds the tinancre of the cottony.
were low; but Mange's adOplett directly the con. Nlt. D. M'. HARVEY Wild, he had supported an
trary principle. Ile was couvinced, that, in vassittits inquiry into the finances of the currutoy from a
up tratiosmo elariws the war, load this priociple comic of the necessity of tixisog them oto a per.
been pursued, ;here would have been saved isseitent baste. lie could not think, however, thet
a sow equal to one fourth of the whole of the m. this was the time, or that the proposition was the
Ilona! debt. For his owu part, lie ilerlared, before exact mode thintigh which the country should be
the House of Comitions, before his couittry, and called upon to meet new taxes. 'Phil was not the
his conatitueses, that he could not consent to the tune to linporte upon the suffering classes of this
introduction of any faze* until he should see the country such an unman' of taxation as 3.000,0001.
filutisters sincerely disposed to exert themselves, and upon a class whose labours moil sufferings arose
in order to relieve the distresses of the people, or with the morn, and only set with the evening of
at least to satisfy them that they cenuot be relieved. the day. %VIIy not prefer a property tax, and at
Mr. Ilesie expressed lois strong dieapprobatiou once go to the pockets of tliti•e who were Arum
of the sestet's pursued by this Right Memorable competent tai flay it %—(11cor, heur.)—l le pledged
Cieutlewan opposite to set:suit the finances of the himself, if the Right It _tintenable Grottoes,' op-
country. II all tieCOollt of the interest on the fund- rosier would go into a full inquiry, tune skew the
rd and unfunded debt, and the expenses of foreign ureessity ad' new texas, lie would be ready to go
hums, Were laid on the table, he had strung doubts with him in apportioning taxes upon thou cello were
that a sitiking loud of 2.000,0001. would be found I best able to support them.—(!tear.)--As it was
I
ovarialole fur the country us was stated; stall events the fashion of the day to propose new expedients+ he
Ire strongly ollected to the mode of taxation whirls would only hint at the saving which the etiolate),
the Rt. Hen.Gentlenult had prop tied—lies plan felt might obtain iss the anode of conducting Exciae
directly on the classes of society least able to bear eruaccutions, each of which cyst 401. fur Crown

e was stiven folding in a Bill to amend the
1 Gen. HI. regardiagantaitit's sills.
Jr. AltiermanWoon preamited a Petl;ion from
Wm. Henry Raglish against the tteport of the
Committee--an 4 another Petition fro err-
, Protestant Dissen:ers aimitt4 the 51arm riage

I one of the pette.tatektifected
were corapeilinft to 'bear
kw these laze* he weed vote fot
r may trui indeed which could be
me oho Were able to hear it. and
rooted into Ow Esehrquer with
-r ifrar.7—.A. Right live. Geir-
'Ong) bad last niglit.ridiettled the