Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-06-26 00:00:00

JUNE 26, 1857.

the interests committed to my care—being something more
than you individually seem inclined to accord; and so
much does this 'appear to be the case, that your letter
reads as if you only wanted opportunity to repeat what I
complain of, and therefore you leave me no choice but to
appeal to the committee.—Yours very truly,
(Signed) CHARLES MACIVER.

Mr, MONDELL said the latter part of the report an.
certainly very correct, but the opening was not.
The CHAIRMAN felt sure Mr. Mondell did not intend
any disrespect to Mr. M'iver. As Mr. Gladstone had very
properly remarked on a former occasion, Messrs. M'lver
conducted their business with credit, not only to the port,
but to Great Britain. Mr. M'lver might'therefore dismiss
any feeling from his mind. Any observations made by
Mr. Mendell had merely reference to the preparations
which were Bing made, and were not meant to be in the
least offensive.
Mr. Moermsne asked whether a member of the committee
was to be subject to censure for having given an opinion
upon a question brought before him for his consideration ?
He had not had an opportunity of replying to one or two
points in the letter. He did not think he had been fairly
treated. He gave to Mr. M'lver, in his first letter, the
grounds on which he spoke—that a precedent had been
conceded to him, and that therefore the committee were in
some measure justified by that precedent in awarding to
Messrs. Bibby, in the same trade, a similar accommodation
on terms. In the letter, Mr. littlver had made use of 'the
phrase that he (Mr. Mondell) despised steamships. Now,
he thought every body whoever associated with him since
that line was es'ah'istied, could bear testimony to what he
now said—that he had eulogised the performances of thoSe
vessels; that they were well, ably, and energetically
managed; and that in the selection of their commanders
and officers, great sagacity and judgment had been exhi-
bited. He had always maintained that, and •he
would maintain it still. He did not despise the
Cunard steamers. He had not been long a mem-
ber of that committee, nor had he sought to become
a member of it. He never solicited the suffrage of a
single man. He was asked if he would serve, and he
replied that if elected he would do so to the best of his
ability, and he could appeal to the gentlemen associated
with him in the sub-committee, if he had not been earnest
in his attention, and if upon every question brought
before him he had not given an honest opinion. ((leers.)
Whether right or wrong he had always given that opinion
to the best of his judgment. He took it that being a
member of the committee, his duty was to look after the
receipts and expenditure ; to look with especial attention
after that portion of the ditties which was meted out to
him in the sub-committee; to give facilities to the trade
of the port, let it come whence it may, and by sup-
porting and adopting all improvements to aid in obtaining
every increased facility; to draw no invidious distinctions
between tratles, and not to cherish the one at the
expense of the other. He thought if he was right in his
estimate of the duties, he might claim to have performed
them as well, to the extent of his ability, as any other. He
was quite ready to resign his seat whenever it was desired,
but so long as he had a seat there, he held himself
free to give his opinion upon any question affecting the
ratepayers' interests, which might be brought before him,
irrespective of any man. (Hear, bear.) In courtesy he
thought Mr. M'lver should have told him that his letter
was intended for publication. (Hear, hear.) He did not
think it exactly fair to drag persons into a correspondence
in that way. It was calculated to keep dhwn the ex-
pression of opinion oa all questions affecting the general
interests. (Hear, hear.) Ho defied any man to say that
he had ever given a single opinion to promote His 'own
interest in any way. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. GLADSTONE said he never thought that what fell
from Mr. Mendell on the last day was anything but what
every member of the committee had a perfect right to say
if he thought proper. (Hear, hear.) His impression was,
that if Mr. M'lver had been present himself he would
have attached no importance to the remarks, and would
not have supposed for a moment that Mr. Mondell intended
to say anything injurious or unpalatable to him, (Hear,
hear.)
The CHAIRMAN should do Mr. Mondell the j istice to
say, that although he had heard the remarks, he did not
understand them as being offensive to Mr. M•lver, Lle
thought the question might uow be allowed to drop.
Mr. CLINT thought it very hard that they who gave
their time to that committee sh)uld not be allowed to make
use of any argument, without being dragged into a private
correspondence with this or that man, out of doors, who
choose to fled fault with them. (Hear, hear.) He quite
agreed with the sentiments expressed by Mr. Mondell, and
he thought the only error that gentleman had committed
was in replying to Mr. M'lver's first note at all.
Mr. MONDELL: I had no idea of giving °Mace.
Mr. GLADSToNE: It is a fact, that they do receive a large
sum of money from government—a great many of us
would wish to have half as much cause of complaint.
Mr. M.NDELL : I have no hesitation in reiterating my
opinion, calmly and quietly, before any company.
Mr. BARBER said he rather thought he had heard it
mentioned, and that an advertisement had been shown at a
meeting of the subcommittee, from Mr. Wirer, stating
that he could give such and such despatch, owing to such
and such considerations.
Mr. BROCZLERANK : Having warehouses of his own on
quay.

- Mr. MONDELL : I think it was in a Sicilian paper.
The CHAIRMAN said Mr. Bibby mentioned to him that
he had a letter from a correspondent stating that Messrs.
M'lver had given out something of the kind. He did not
see any paragraph under Mr. M'lver's hand, nor did he
know anything more about it. (Laughter.)
The subject then dropped.
A letter from Messrs. Andrew Taylor & Co., in reference
to surplus cotton, was referred to the Warehouse Com-
mittee.
A letter from Mr. John Tipping, complaining of a cart
stand near his offices in the Goree Buildings, was ordered
to be forwarded to the Town Council.
Mr. GLADSTONE called attention to the continued absence

of the—treasurer, through ill health, from his most
important duties, and suggested that the sub-committee
should report upon the subject.
Mr. SMITH complained of the fact that cllgiues were
signed by the treasurer only, and suggested that th ry should
be coanter-signed by the secretary. By this means, in the
absence of the Secretary, the clerk under him could sign
them, an 3 they would have the signature of the treasurer.
In the absence of the treasurer, his junior clerk could
sign them, and they would have the signature of the
secretary.

The CHAIRMAN said the committee had granted the
treasurer a few weeks' lear9 of absence, in the hope of his
speedy reztoration to health, and had made the best
arrangements they could. They wonld take care that the
interests of the committee did not suffer.
The following letter was read from Mr. McElroy :

TO THE CHAIRMAN AND MEMBERS OF THE GENERAL
DOCK COMMITTEE.
Drogheda Steam Packet Company,
35, Water-street, Liverpool, 24th June, 1857.
Gentlemen,—ln the report of your last meeting, as con-
tained in the Mercury of the 19th inst., I find, among other
things. that the Harbour Masters' committee recommended
that one of the two berths on the south side of Collingwood
dock, which have been appropriated to our steamers for
so many years, during the busy season thereof, should
now be taken from us. If the report in the Mercury be
correct, Mr. Lockett was quite right in anticipating the
certainty of a stood deal of ill will, which is generally the
consequence of wrong done or suggested in the face of the
clearest evidence in support of right and justice. Accord-
ing to the report in the Mercury Mr. Lockett, stated to your-
committee that the Harbour Masters had recommended

the changes in question. This I most emphatically
deny as regards the change recommended in our
case, and upon this point I appeal to some of the
members of the Harbour Masters Committee them-
selves. I enclose you copy of my letter to the senior
Harbour Master, dated 19th ultimo, which was duly laid
before the Harhour Masters' Committee, and to which I
respectfully beg to call your attention before you lend
your sanction to the injustice proposed. There is no man
more delighted than I am at Messrs. Bibby and Son's
obtaining dock and shed accommodation commensurate
with their increasing steam trade. I find that they, in
conjunction with three other firms, despatched during the
six months ending the 31st ull., 64 steamers, of an aggre-
gate tonnage of 34,055 tons, while the Drogheda Se trn.
packet Company, during the six months ending the 31st
December last, sent to the port of Liverpool 212 steamers,
with an aggregate tonnage of 57.604 tons I I enclose you
to c 1
treble, your
tionanddularerslypecttofultlhyebeg
rivals on the same tide. Our steamers are
statistics of thisa,ratine
qtiadrtuhrelreetaor,ri
not going to Southampton, nor am I going there. I am
merely going before your committee with my case such as
it is, and to ask you, upon the strength of it, not to adopt
the recommendation of the Harbour Masters Committee,
but to take the opinion of the Harbour Masters, who are
practical men, and whom I would be glad to meet before
your committee on the subject.—l am, Mr. Chairman and
gentlemen, yours respectfully, Wit. WELnov.
Mr. IicELROY was called in, and explained to the com-
mittee, that wi h the one'berth, or rather, as he stated
three-quarters of a berth left to him, he could not possibly
work his s earners.
Mr. ROUNTHWAITE said he was quite sure Mr. McElroy
could not work them in that berth.
The commltee requested Mr. MelVroy to attend the
meeting of the Harbour Masters' Committee on the let of
July, when the subject would be considered.
A request from the Rev. Professor HAUGEITON, of Dub-
lin, to have placed at his dispo=al for purely scientific
purposes, the diagrams of high and low water, direction of
wind, and bright of barometer, recorded since the estab--
lishment of the tide-guage on the landing stage, was
complied with.
A memorial was read, signed by Messrs. Duncan Gibb ;
Fernie ; Holt, and Lamport ; De Wolf; Gibbs, Bright, and

Co.; and many other important firms, calling attrntion tot
present limited accommidation for discharging timbl
deals, ace., and suggesting some alterations.
The- memorial was referred to the Harbour Maste'
Committee.
This closed the general business.

FASHIONS FOR JULY.

DrNNER COSTUME FOE HOME.

Skirt of striped silk, with four flounces, gradating,
width ; on each flounce is woven a broad band of lily
silk, they are edged with a narrow fringe. Canezou col
posed entirely of insertion, the jacket formed by a fiv
trimmed with lace, the sleeves have two puffs,. the bow.
one being the largest ; below the puffs are two deep f
trimmed with lace; a bow of lilac silk, edged with b
lace, ornaments the front of the sleeve, above the f
Breeelles :of lilac silk crossing in the front with floats
ends • they are fastened at the waist in front .by a sn3
rued placed in a slanting direction ; the bretelles
trimmed entirely r?und by black and 'white lace, the whl
lace which crosses the shoulders being broader than t
other ; at the back, the point where the bretelles meet
the waist is finished by a small mead, Cap of black a
white lace, with floating strings of lavender silk. Will
parasol, covered and trimmed with lace.
Dress of grey silk, the skirt long and extremely fall
jacket body fastening at the back ; it is three-quart
high. At the bottom of the jacket is a band of pink gl
ribbon, and a deep flounce of black lace. On the top
the body are two rows of pink rabloon with black lace
each edge, finished in the centre by bows of rib
Sleeves with two puffs and deep frill; the puffs are divid
by black lace, and ornamented with pink ribbon; the e
of frill is finished by a band of pink silk and black lace.