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Consider him a man of substance, capable *of paying whatever he
contracted.
Mr. ALLEY—WeII, well, that was your opinion then ; what is
your opinion now ?
Mr. Martin—Why, that he is not worth a shilling ; and that he
is a had and infamous character.
Mr. Pitt tilys-1 must. beg the Hon. Gentleman not to use such
lanquare•
Mr. Martin—l apologise to you, my friend ; but (in continua-
tion) that good lady (Mra.3larsh)etme to me, and upon describing
the prisoner's conduct, I without hesitation pronounced him to be
" a d—d swindler," and went with her to Gloucester place, and
saw the female prisoner; she looked so respectable that 1 was sorry
to see a person of her appearance there, and told her what I thought
of her master; and she affected great astonishment, said she
thought Mr. Ireland a very nice gentleman of rank and fortune,
and she was very sorry she had been so unfortunate as te get into
such service, particularly at she had lived in Lord Camden's family;
and knowing she never could be recommended !rein that family,
I guessed she wan concerned. 1 also told Mrs. Marsh to threaten
Ireland with the police if he would not surrender possession. and if
he would not, I would, whether legal or nut, thrust him body and
bones oat into the street. Afterwards, hearing he would not go, I
went to the house and saw him, anti said, " you scoundrel and
robber, that have imposed upon me to give you a character, why are
you in the house??"—!le answered, Isehtd the peruistion of Mr..
Marsh. I used some other opprobrious language to l.im, and
tipsily Tot Cant, pnry2_,;mmilafoq of hit house.
317.75011.17,9—N0w, Sir, will you hive the tinhorn: tzsreswer
me a question or two. You know the Enmity of Ireland ?
Mr. Martin_l do, they are very respectable in the kingdom cf
Ireland.

Mr. PHILLtPs—And you also must know that he Is nephew to
Sir Edward Stanley ?
Mr Martin nodded assent.

Mr. PSILLI►B—YOu knew Ireland in a respectable way in Ga-
lway, and you say you considered him to be a man of substance ?
Mr. Martin—l did so.
Mr. Put t.t.trs —What, in your estimation, was the value of his
property in Galway, or what was the value of the lease of the
mines

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Mr. Martin—Having extensive marble min= of my own, I
know something of the value of such property ; his is particularly
valuable. I consider he was worth 8,01.101. when I knew him in
Galway.
Mr. Prtixtres—Who has the lease of this property now ?
Mt. Martin—Not the prisoner, I believe.
Mr. Put LLIPS—Don't you know that it is actually impounded
by the Magistrate?
Mr. have heard as much.
Mr. l'aitttrs—When you gave the reference, you considered
hint very solvent?
Mr. Martin—To be sure I did.

Ittr. Pit tirs—Now, Sir, a wont or two about this pony wo.
man t she appeared quite. thunderstruck upon hearing Ireland was
a swindler ?

Mr. Martin—She certainly appeared much aatonished.
Mr. PHILLIPS—She always acted as servant ?
Mr. Martin—Always, upon every occasion.
Ale. ALLEY—Did you, Mr. Martin, reside in the house?
Mr. Martin—Not I—to be sure not.

Nr. AtAry—Well, then, how do you know that she always
acted u servant ?

illr.Marinl.-.She said she was in that capacity, and acted the
part right well.
Mr. PHILLIPS—Acted the part tight well? Sir, (lid you not
consider her as only the servant, and the dupe of the others ?
Mr. Martin—My impression was that she was a confederate.
Mr. PHILLIPS—You have, only just now, said she was over-
whelmed with astonishment upon hearing your opinion of Ireland.
Was not tbat unlike a confederate?

Mr. Martin—Upon my word I considered her to be one of the
gang—l really did, from her appearance.
Mr. PHILLirs--Well, Sir, now, as you have displayed so much
sagacity, perhaps you will allow that if Ireland was clever enough
to humbug you, he could easily deceive a pony woman?
Mr. Martin—Upon my word I believe het too keen to be easily
humbugged—(a laugh); and my impression Is. that any servant
living in the house live days, and seeing what was going on, must,
if they remained. at once become a confederate.
Mr. ALtr v then proceeded to call Mr. and Mrs. Daniell, Mr.
Brice, Mr. Harding, Mr. Tucker, Mr. Vickery, Mr. Hill, Mr.
M Hier, and others, f rom whom the prisoner and Ponaonby obtained
goods, and as their evidence has been so recently before the
public in cur police reports, a repetition of it is unnecesm y.
Mr. PHILLIPS took an objection to some of the counts of the in-
dictment, as being improperly stated, inasmuch as several of the
tradesmen had more than one Christian name and partners in trade,
which was not set forth in the indictment. _ .

This gave rise to a long discussion, at the end of which
The CHAIRMAN held the objections to be good, therefore the
cases of lir. Sasby, Mr. Miller, and two others, fell to the ground.
Mr. ALLEY than pot in a letter addressed from Ponsonby to
Ireland, dated from Bellniont, Kilkenny, begging him to take
a house in the neighbourhood of some fashionable square, with
stabling for four horses and houses for two carriages, and saying he
intended to come to London for the benefit of his lady's health.
This letter was concocted and written, the Learned Counsel said,
in London, to nid the conspirators in their plans.
Thomas Gurney was then called; he stated that he was engaged
as groom by the lion. F. Ponronby, and was desired by his master
to ride up and down Pall.mall, leading a horse, every day.
Mr. ALLEY explained the object of this was, that some part of
the distinguished family of Ponsonby there, and the swindlers
guessed it would be supposed by the tradesmen of the neighbour-
hood that he was on a visit to them, and his servant was waiting
with his hone.

Gurney in his emu-examination said, the female prisoner never
dined with Ireland and Ponsonby t on the cotrary, she acted en.
tirely as a servant. He had been completely deceived, and had not
reenved one penny of his wages.
This war the case for the prosecution.
The CHAIRM•N observed that he thought there was no evidence
against the female prisoner.
Mr. PKlLLirs—None in the world, Sir, only my Hon. Friend's
opinion u to her appearance.
Hy direction of the Court the Jury returned a verdict of
Gnifty as regarded Elizabeth liravett, and she was discharged.
Mr. ALLEY—Now, Phillips, you can call her as a witness if
you like. (Great laughter.)
Mr. Pnitcres then addressed the Jury for Ireland, and con.
tended there was not one tittle of evidence of any conspiracy. lie
did not deny that Ireland was liable to indictment as a common
cheat, but the evidence could not sustain the charge of conspiracy.
The Learned Gentleman commented at great length upon the evi.
dance, and observed, that although the reports of the man's case
bad gone forth and created an impression against him, he hoped
the Jury would decide upon the case according to the evidence
given that day. lie took the opportunity of remarking that such
reports were very useful, and far more valuable than any temporary
inconvenience caused in such a case, and to such a person as was
then at the bar.

The CHAIRMAN'. in summing up, complimented the Learned
Gentleman upon his ingenuity, but his decided opinion of the case
was, that in all it. bearings the conspiracy was r.in only manifest
but clearly proved.
The Jury consulted for five minute', and then found the pti.
toner Guilty.
The CMAIRNAN then passed sentence. tir.der all ercum.
stance., the judgment of the Court was, that the prisoner should
be imprisoned, and kept to hard labour in the House of Correction
for the term of twelve months.
The prisoner bowed and sat down, and very soon after was re.
moved.

POLICE.

MANSION-HOUSE.

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The fishermen on the Thames, from Chelsea Reach to Staines,
have been for some time complaining that the gentlemen anglers
are almost daily encroaching with their stakes upon those parts
over which the former had been time immemorial in the habit of
drawing their nets.
As they.eould obtain no satisfaction from the panics of whom
they complained, they resolved, on the suggestion of Mr. Saunders,
the water-bailifl; to appeal to the Lord Mayor. As soim es the In-
habitants of Walton-on-Thames heard of this intention, they rent
a memorial to his Lordship, signed, among others. by the Mi.
nister, Churchwardens, and Innkeepers of th.t village, retire-
settling that the fish had bun nearly destroyed, until, with the
consent of his Lordship's predecessors., a poroon of the ricer called
the Deep was preserved by three sunken boats and a few stakes.
The niemorial further stated, that the fish were now on the in-
crease, but that if the fiidtentlen gained their point by retnoring
the stakes, the fruit of five years' expense and trouble would soon
be wholly detroyed.
A great number of fishermen attended. They admitted that it
bad been necessary to his stakes in certain pans of the river as pre-
peeves ; but the permission given for this purpose had, they con-
tended, been acted upon in a most unlimited manner ; indeed no
much so, that three miles for the river were now staked ; the flith
I never were caught by the hard-working fishermen, except now and
then when they happened to leave the deeps for the sake of a little
variety. It was often the cue, that when the fisherman was
bawling his net in vain in the open part of the river, a dozen punts
would be seen in the deeps with the gentlemen anglers, who caught
immense quantities of time, tench, and carp.
Upon the part of the anglers it was stated that if it were not for
the preserves there would be no fish left, the prestice of fishing
with unlawful nets being so prevalent. It was denied that the
encroachments were frequent or arbitrary.
The fishermen said the encroachments Vero so great, and were
made with so little ceremony, that when they would lay down their
acs on one day where they laid them down the day before, the
nets were tont to pieces by the stakes. They called upon the Lord
Mayor, for God's sake, to do them justice in deciding between them
and the Gentlemen, who merely acted from the love of the sport,
and were not obliged to expose themselves, day and night, in the
winter, in order to get a morsel of bread. They were, they said,
willing to allow that it was absolutely necessary that sonic deeps
should be made; they only hoped dirt the inner channels made in
Sir Wm. Domville's mayoralty would be diminished to a reason.
able else.

After some altercation between the parties.
The LORD MAYOR said, that he should teke the City SolicitorN
opinion as to the power of the Chief Magistrate in thus ante ; and
that after more evidence had been taken, lie should decide with re.
sped to the present limits of the various deeps in the river, and If
he was empowered to do so, cause a bill of regulations to be pub.
tithed, pointing out the exact boundaries, beyond which it Could
be attandoi with • penalty so deviate.
The day appointed for the decision is Saturdly next.