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the gentlemen si4nod _ petition
• disposition to unnecessary litigation existed somewhere. A great
&nosey was felt by gentlemen of the legal profession, Members
of tbat‘House, when any allusion was made to the profession of the
Aux 11r(Sir 11. Hardinge)- vus esightcted with many individuals
pelunging so that profession, odd was little inclines to say anything
illiberal of it ; but he did not conceive there was any illiberality
in osbcluding that a disposition sometimes existed for unnecessary
I,ln. lathe disc which formed the subject of discussion, the
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„. But got ._. 14,0001. ?
No loot *ram than 300,000/. This was good profit, when 14,0001.
is laid out, and brings in 300.0001. The litigation, therefore, was
not needless, although it should be thought expensive. Lord Moira
caaimed a portion of the prize money; the Grand Army also
claimed a portion ; but the Deccan Army succeeded against them.
Irate (Mr. Brougham) should ever be so unfortunate as to enter a
Court of Justice as • client, as he often did in another capacity, he
amid with no better luck than to pay 14,00111. and gain 300,0001.
It was the first time he had ever heard so successful a result com-
plained of. The How. Member had expressed his desire to see the
tats biN. lie (Mr. Brougham) could not say bow much other
Canons! had received, but tie had got three guineas for his opinion.
This was his share of the booty. (Hear ) Three guineas was the
value of his opinion—he meant tbe price of it--the value was pro-
bafily touch less. But to return to the subject. No complaint had
been made by the officers of thy army against the Counsel
or agents, and Sir E. Macgregor had expressed his decided appro.
baton of their conduct. Now there was a curious circumstance
which he (31r. Brougham) wished to point out. The name of
Colonel Noble was sigt.ed to the petition presemed to the House
• few nig'its ago. lie (Mr. B.) herd in his hand a letter from Col.
Noble. the hand writing of which was strikingly different to that
is which hiename was written in the petition. This was maw
cetramdireary as be happened to know that Colonel Noble wad in
tins Highlands of Scotland for three weeks before that widen was
prmented to the House. Perhaps it had been signed by Colonel
Noble three weeks before it was presented, but why so greet delay ?
Was it necessary the promoters of the petition should take so long
beating up for recruits ? Now as to Mr. Achesou, the solicitor, be
had no interest !n advising litigation. If there had been farther
?thirstier, the proth would have gone to the solicitors of the trio,
sury. Besides Mr. Acheson was advancing large sums of MODS”,
therefore he was throtriog good money after bad, sad that not for
bra owo profit. but the
.protit of the Treasury aolicitors. It was
said that the [hike of 11 ellington had no objection to show tbe
spas to any but legal gentlemen. The officers and privates, and
drummer& my see than, but the law agents, who could alone
tithe legal objections, were not allowed to look into them. So deep
an interest do the trustees take in the advantage of the army, that
they would not permit them to see their own papers. In his
upinton all the papers should be produced, and he bad little
why in anticipating who should cut the worst figure.
• Col. LUSHLN(ITON mid that he wondered that he had suill.
cient authority hens Col. Noble to put his name to the petition.
Col. Nellie told nisi diet be desired to withdraw his power of st-
ultify from COL Wood. He had also expressed his indignation
t.t the pamphlet written against the Duke of Wellington and Mr.
Arbuthnot. Under these circunivances, he (Col. Lushington)
trought himself justified in signing Col. Noble's name; he bad
not done on, however, without consulting several older and more
experienced Minnnets of that House: ( Hear.)
Mr. rinoeu HA NI confessed he did not think the conversation
which be hoc detailed, was sufficient to warrant the lion. Member
in signing Col. Noble's name. In such caws men felt differently,
but he should not consider that his most intimate friend was justi.
potting his name to a petition under such circumstances.
It Five him no little surprise to learn that the lion. arealbtr op.
pante had taken that tor a warrant to sign the petition which,
fret and in truth, did not by any means amount to a warrant
for smelt a purpose: and to sign a petition too which contained
charges of a very serious nature against a particular individual.
't'o accept such • commission as a warrant fur aflising a
signature to such a petition, was palpably inconsistent with the
pnvileges'of that House. The lion. 31ember moat unquestion-
ably, hi the communication which lie had with Colonel Noble,
obtained no authority from that officer to affix his name to the
petition. At the same time he was free to acknowledge that the
.1116 n. Member (Col. Lushington) had acted to the best of his judg-
mat, nod entirely from any improper motive.
Mr. Secretary CANNING said, that after the candid and
manly manner in which the lion. Member behind him had
avowed that which on the opposite side so much pains had been
token so mystify, ft 1113 unnecessary for him to make many ob.
save:ions; but at learn he would express his opinion that no
specific authority file signing a petition could be inferred from a
general knowledge of the sentiments and opinions of the individual
inam whom the petition purported to come. It was even wrong,
he conceived, with authority. to to put a name to:a petition ; but
• idiom it there was unquestionably an informality. At the same
ties he would lake that opportunity of saying, that where there
were two modes of determintog a dispute, it was perfectly innocent
to advise that of arbitration, in preference to going to law. Without
o eating the &lightest disrespect to any of the learned professions, he
might take the liberty of saying. that the physician naturally wished
to +Amorous and liberal patients--the divine for a cure of souls-,
and the lawyer was newer suspected of indifference to the increase
his Mimes, and the t augmentation of his fees—toga,
sllthat wpsdo past times eemed perfectly harmless and unobjec.
tannibre ; but they had then tolearos for the first time, theater at.
tribute-to &lawyer thirst tor increasing business, was to be esteemed
t.e.daintot • muotettmt. On a former night they had heard from
au lion.
been cog:need for several years, arid which, when the papers WS
been submitted to a lawyer for the purpose of settling the maid*
arranged that in half an hour which probably would ham
token many years to dispose of in a Court of Law. Now
that Honourable Member, might, in the detail of those chr-
eumatonris, have Bien accused of attacking 'the whole proles.
non of the law. without there being the 'lightest shadow for
such an imputation. Whh respect to the advice given by the
petitioners, he was awnpletely of opinion that it was sound and jib.
dieiona ; and he entirely concurred with them in recommending the
parties to abide by the arbitration. In expressing such as his view,
of the subject, he meant not the slightest pernmal offence to any**,
who had given. or might hereafter glee. • diffcrert opinion. It war
perfectly natural for those who belonged to • learned ender-aim to
wish for employment, and thane wodul take the liberty of repel*:
leg. nee w ithstanding that it appeared to he the opinion °fathers. thee
sore should presume to breathe a syllable to that effect ; became
truly the present opposition in Parliament was composed chiefly, Is
not entirely, of lawyers. Never. in the history of Parliament. was an
opposi•Son so entirely, he might almost say exclusively, com
of lawyers; and they were then to kern for the first time since the
or of that magnificent profession, that its members were Jodi/-
Serene as to the increase of their profession 4 occupation.
Mr. ABEIICROMBY wished to correct the rolarepresentatior
of the Right lion. Gentleman (Mr. Canning); misrepresentation
srhicb he was sure was perfectly undesigned on his part, but tbt
effect of which it was not the leas unnecessary to prevent. The ob-
jection which he (Mr. Abercromby) had urged was one which lay.
not aysinst a general or sweeping accusation, for to such lie would
not have deemed it necessary to make clay reply. but his objection
lay agsrost a Itat he conceived to be a Talc charge against a par-
ticular individual, in its nature unjust, injurious, and calumnious.
His deliberate conviction was. that no one who read the petition.
tnal :ern read the letter of slit Duke of Wellington, could put his
cet.4,,to his heart and say that the ch r ;es were not directed against
individual, and not suff ci-ntly specific in their nature
to wake it necessary that they should be repelled.
tie. I M./TON then took a review of the caw as stated IA
the pentiers and detailed a considerable portion of the legal pro.

tr. the agent. If #6*, moot is maim the dome
• lisnirot, they were Mod iovooko oat sumbratilm.
iv right to scatter impooodeos WIWI able mast
The pretest peddles% Into a ous of gelds sod
eoxsideriog them. eiesemelleekleas ft fbAtY to
Mae and give the ostkority Of Na oploloo sit expo&
royale to individuals ibis opiefisos Id
a& An* amp
to havablgrtnade, or If matK shield have been le imeli tame !
is to' ASV the accused an oppmlumisy of defending themselves.
Wend LUSHINGTON ihmaght it his duty on the part of
chehiEcere who bad signed. the petition alluded to, to state that
- they bad co idea of injuring any one: their only object was to
. Impress the confidence they felt in the Trustees of the Deccan
Pelee Money. He could oot conclude without observing., that in,
ails opinion, if any party had a right to complain of intimation
.and eminency, it was the Duke of Wellington and Mr. Arbuthnot.
Sir HARDINGE admitted tine right of Sir E. Maligregor
to express his opinion in the 111$1116111 be had chorea. He thought,
Lowrey. that the unreasonable claims made by the Demount,.
. justified the gentlemen who signed the petition Its the inference that

iiiiiiiiil7anioumed to no less than fourteen thousand pounds
upwards. (Hear, hear.) The lawyers therefore had a lair slit
• the booty. The Duke of Wellington and Mr. Arbuthnot's
. pewees tor two years, es trustees, were within one hundred and
• pounds. As to aspersions, it was unfah to cast them on o
meolltinee as well as gentlemen of the law ; and it must be
• mitred dint much aspersion was thrown out against the Duk
Wellirn and Mr. Arbuthnot 4o the public papers. The,
W . an ,:tot
.. of Sir T. Hislep had been grossly abused by some per"
' lotto berli named gabled accounts of the correspondence in the an
papers It was asked why the Dukes( Wellington would not et
,;. eipaperb. Why, as trustee for the Crews. should the Duke of %
give up the opinions of the Law Officers of tbs. Crown 11
• .". of Welliogvon had been under the necessity of informiog
e ' . personally absolving him from any breach of coals&
*se hireould hold no further communication with him on the sub
from the llllMilat in which what passed found its way ion the n
• repot densegb mom of Sir T. Hislop's confidants. Thatlel
`Yelling/in Teh maxim; to prevent litigation. He duel*
swim glade as him in pamphlets; but. if Inquiry mei dein
it hie vials that the *babe wereedence shodd WIWI
eepgl4: H. 71 *notehe Idw hills would also he ken
which wardieVu lathe *wise to judas what ironic
. en had goneinto the pork of the lawyers.
IairidROUCLIIAMI undid the Hon. Member that he hat
tza wealth to royal( he pleased of the legal profession. He
. taltirtspluodcr; :find be (Mr. Bunigharo). believed
thetre
with base' coats as well an with . Ile menet
.be dad not deny the former. What lie had objected to
elat at: intilhithubs should be charged with practices w
• doe haw practitioners would despise. As to tne aspen
the puke of Wellington, all he (Mr. Brought's.)
him with wee gross ignorance of the practice of the
ion. The counsel gave his opinion with his name dint
• . Soo it leaved his chambers, and if he advises his client to i
pi-
-Ist is his case is wed, and that case is discovered to be bad,
bbithood of bit• opinion is manifest. Leaving out honour
pekeelple, therefore, common prudence should induce a coons
tcdishes best advice be could; for should a man give an moo
..:
, he Wunder his own hand either dishonest or ignorant.
legiera charge against the agent, Mr. Acheson, the Adjul
I, Sir E. Alacoregor, and the Commander-in-Chid, Si
ltiliagree that the counsel and law-agent manifested 1
ltnettelietts desire to prevent litigation. It was said that the
bibs esinunted to 14.0001. But what had been got for 14,00