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ii 0U SS ei a gabled so
Lordships 4 isthilgence
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'thaVrlistilitiebeirnibtg
- lilt he their Landati les.
VIM; bat he fait be
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it
amidim
rnlisila=7erits • B preses
----' -"' itanitiCey had
Zdeallpeseillsa tbe
sf Sidi re.
liveitnit lent no an
an pas 6 vilkeed, of
to leglatems upon
hearsay evidence,
...Justice. to be received
concerned ? He thought
fttaiwg Catholic Emanci-
voodoo. If the House
- tea them first inquire
determined. He
.., lima if the Catholics—'
6111 have pot down the As- '
or notice it would foil to'
smile at the ides, but 1
to were they to par-
__. Bar! had expressed 1
the Catholics. The best of
' WO serum es t bet the' 1J
dangers, but positive • -
.11 -s,- as -
1 • Tut, to
I- Ifire.
it when the
id* latent;on -
sgi Jo mind what he
I of the Con.stittrtiolif
tips should treat the
granted the Catholics
.ton of their just/mood
fle_•101141. "iw - -_,„ -- - . guards sad securietts to
sa assail. • ' .•hick he had alluded were'
• ilialisils the a a Apseint of great and imminent danger i
i- OAs Batt . 0 eithoWed by enemies, and our Dente sod
air=
setaige WWI se doh in tits struggle: but the. effect of
!Irmo well-ti 110111maidoot WI been to strengthen and combine
. Winking alai* tithe eisetry. Our army. and navy were re-
otioiaod svith.llollllw sad daring/sem and the British Sag was again
issINNI A through the contest, and Bnitsh glory was
. off* few Looking to the immense force necessary to be
bity.webil d pat thequestion--nehether it 'mould rot be
tet*l
baser in dim if stairsy to grant concession to the Catholics ;
sad by Inkier wilt us, arable us to employ that force else-'
;pod or loam h4horritierty 4 Jut
country,
rbethbeenttuerpoton raeLyrogen
and
Derry. The laws sgainsc ttornan Catholics had
wail IN pedal reasons, and he doubted rot they were
=11.24,
eses. Bat to coati not set that the satbe necessity existed for
lbw continuance as for their enactment. At that time there was
*Sovereign who bad, by a bold measure, been driven from the
emmire hr misgoverned for his arbitrary projects. He bed retired
to Ireland, where he found protection and assistance. This excited
—sonable ' against the Raman Catholic!, of that day, and
- urotestant succession and religion
party avowedly under the influ.
is Pope. The consequence and
3 more. We ourselves had raised
which he had been reduced by
up—was it to be afraid of hint ?
the remaining restrictions which
would unite that body to the
night bid defiance to the world.
e care of our own liberties ; if
.111 conscientious vote should be
s their !wardship:, reserving to
further progress, and opposing

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Bill.
s few observations.
'N could rot find a qua.,
the Marquis Wellesley, le
The Noble Earl who
the subject of that flints
improvements in the several
justice in Ireland, but that
as proved in that House how
at the grievances, under which
!ear, hear, hear.) And so little
4, for the last twenty-sit years,
t on them triple and quadruple
With respect to the adminis-
place ? The great boon that has
on of magiatrstes, and that too
ee too long delayed. The
monks, proceeded to the subject
decidedly of ,plan e that the C
1. as it was with the peace of die
vigilance of the Government. a
100 en a species of tribunal whisk
supplied with a tribute, large.
for redress, and promising to
.as of practising it. That be coe.
pregnant with suggesting strong
n. Instead of doing away the
" society,
.what had they had but
the guise of a remedy; but
still remains the same degree
. eieritatioo, and it co..— it of being an aggravation of
the disuse; but the measure must prove ineffective, and what
would then be the ridiculous appearance of the Parliament of Eng-
land before the public ? How much must it suffer in the respect
of every individual when it was passing laws that were of no
fore*? Would not the evil consequence of such a feeling as that '
he lamented ? Would It not look as if we were willing to wound,
yet afraid to strike ? The Noble Lord then adverted to that pre.
wlslon of the Bill which makes it illegal to hold a meeting for the
redress of grievances, if the same shall have been adjourned
within fourteen days. He would ask the Noble Baron, whom he
saw Sitting on the even, beceheri (Lori Colchester), who had so long
presided in another place, and who must be molt susceptible of
vide, if he would object to a meeting merely beewse it should
• happen to have been adjourned within a certain plitl; but if the
tame disposition to meet remain—lf the same disposition to corn-
- piaM continue, how far could that provision operate? With regard
to the Rent, he admitted hit dislike to the term ; for though he
was eonyinced no compulsion was used, still the word implied it
ja; he beer could hear of any unjust power being used en the
oninstion. One fact was brought forward; that was no proof; it
was something worse titan proof, for it was false; he alluded to the
story of the distress that had been made for the non -payment of
the Reins-that story, even if true, was only a ground for inquiry
it could afford no pretext for legislation. If there was a forcible
levy of money, the eeisting. laws were sufficient to put it down.
Ho who presumed to enforce it, brought himself within the cognl-
- seine of laws, in themselves sufficiently forcible. There wed
ancther moister tin-gill that showed, to aay the least of it, a
great deal of epedal Indio/it it was aimed at that which was not
before ta , the receiving of money. As the law stood,
the mere r. o money was nut prohibited ; the new Act
Weaned tire words, " Levy or receive ; ' they were now put to-
Mr; anak provision was intended to met something illegal be.
ere, sad something to be now, for the first time, made so. Ile
ask the House if any species of enactment could prevent an
individual from nceiving it—let there but still remain the same
disposition to pay, aqd the same disposition to receive, and again he
world ask what Lw could prevent it ? It could not be effected, unless
en inquisition Mame awd more detestable than ever existed in the most
Ca•holic and &erotic country were established. How else could
ttey tempi( a manic, declare from whom he re:eives, to what put.
-pest be applies it—and the very nature of the Catholic religion
rendered it nacessery that tney should collect money—who could
cottrotti them ar to their dispose) of it ? While the present state
of !image existed in Ireland, the Rent mu* continue. The people
Wok it a tribute to their security ; thug tilhekag•inneurea dir OMB
dist protection which the powers of the State deny. The present
sited at a thing beyond any law. The experience of history.
the oblervation of existing circumstances paved, that a whole nation
And comminity may be put down, if AU be crushed at the name
time. • but it was impossible to allow freedom to a part of a nation ;
to allow to them their civil, and the earyinent of all the advan-
trynes of a free state ; to have intermixed with the one portion of
ihtieselves, imernileing, but not participating in those enjoyments,
and at the same :line to keep that portion enslaved. (Cheers.) It
to:End the ingenuity of tyrants to crush that feeling that must
sntiag.from such an interchange of sentiment. If that system of
eecausion were cantinued ; if the tight of the sun of the State were
withheld from their view, they would be driven to the guidance
of those unceanin and rwandering lights that sometimes ilia.
minate the hemisphere ofthe state. And who were the people for
whom they were then legislating ? He would not himself describe
then, but would give their character in the words of Milton. That
great man described them as " a nation acute in their perception,
atthtte and itisinuatibg in their conversation, capable of doing may
thi..g that could be achieved be quicknen and force of Intellect."
Such a people they could net long depress the growing
deformation and enlightenment of the eye furhaJe it ; and, above
all the Pres would not admit it—that gre-1 engine, which
patented the very heart of society. and an electrical
=Eunice communicated throagh every distant nation. If their
Lirdshifla wished to qiiiet the Cacho:in, it weaned by statutes, not
by penal codes could .t be effected. If, however, they must proceed
statutes, let it be through the repeal of them ; let them grunt
emancipation ; that indeed would put an end to discontent. With
raped to the Bill then under discussion, he wiribed patticutarly to
ineeess on the Catholics this fact, that many Nutile Lords may,
perhaps, vote for the Bill, though their zeal for emancipation may
remain utabated. The Noble Marquis, after further observations,
eonelecled by declaring that be uvula not now be so pertinacious in
his opposition to the present Bill at the other stages of it, on account
of what bad marred two nights back in another place; that as ex-
pectation was raised by that circumstance that measures were near
Laing adopted Which was about to restore to the Catholin their

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a tease:4le jealousy agein;t the Ham
she Legislature had to protect the Proc
• by force of arms and fight with a pat
reef of a Catholic Monarch and the 1'
. authority of the Pope were now no mos
. ktim up from the abject state to *hie
. illusnaparte. We bad set him up—
If the House would take off the n
- tented the Catholics, they would
State; and, so oohed, they might
He was anxious we should take car
we did not, no owe else would. His C
treve:ettrifight efliwaillicruswg over its t'il
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CARBERRY sup
ed
. 'The Earl of KINGSTON madethe a 1
The Marquis of LANSDOWN
sentence In the despatches of tb
eountenance the present measure.
bought before their consideration t
&bate bad talked much of the ii
branches of the administration of jul
:chef was not granted until it was
Vzat were the burthens, how great I
ie people bed been groaning. (Hem
ledulgence did that people get, tbat, I
pi weight of pep has been pressing n
the proportion they ought to bear. V.
n of justice, what hes taken oleo
conceded was *better selection of
to indulgence, an Indulgence to
ile t
bunptithe s, StAllt soap further remarks, I pit
ore cap& was decidedlyl
AillOeilliell *NI one, convected as ii
,‘„ogisiotry. that required the strict right*Or townie he looked with suspicion (11
Zilf by its own direction, was soi
4: • ottry, 304 universal, looked to ft
silibrd it, but possessing no means of
' Seised was a state of thing, pregm
grounds of danger And alarm. Ir
causes of this deranged state of socit
that Bill, brought forward in the
Wen that measure passes there siil
of excitation, sod it could not fail 1
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