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NOUSE OF COMMONS.

M•. A'd•rmam Co•nhe broug,ht up a P•tition Gmo the
C .i.berakers t Lnailm aganiat ter Vailne an. and reapng
ttill unions, nut pass into a law ~t.hdeted to he en the
Tonle.

The Cerk Gaol Bill was read a third time and passed.
A P from the -r.v tAee Isresentetl, at the 8.., ati ao-•
event of the Allowances rent all Exemptions gra..ted o:r -
rliitnert nn the Ihries ni the Pleetedy Tan tsl the Rack a ,1
die Eta Indi, an Utah St. Cooll•ll3.ll—(Ateted to its oo
'the Thole.

Mr. l‘f hiGENS meted C.:. at. Ace mint of the Qlai (hies 114
Veer. veil and o'Lzorl, of al F.ar;fin nos.ortr,l, front
the sth of .lanna,y 1790, to sth of January IfIll6; and also
the q..ant;tin e rtoeted during the same iirr"l;
tits tats of Duties, and also the Drawnack• in each yrar.—
Urder.d.
The SE.CRZTARY at WAR move, fora return of the num-
b^. of Recruits tai.e.l nude,' the Additional Forre Act, who
erdioileerA into the Lair, from mnited to unheeded Service.
(tom t/; t. Itrlue, to &nil 1506 —Ordered

Ile then browght up the said Aoeonut, which we; ordered to
he printed.
Mr Vr S tIITH postponed his Motion, which good for to-
de!, reatire to referring the. Petition of Chalmers .nd Cowie
to eh, C,.-nmrtree O(SUI..O{V, to Friday.
Mr HU :K1 iSOA gate notice, that he vron'd, tomorrow,
were b.. I;ir C.. of a Vetter to Chalmers and Cow le, by order
01 the late Tr,atury, retat:te to the.r. demand.
IRIS!' BUDGET.
Sir J. NEWPORT (the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer for Ireland) moved the Order of the Day
for the House to resolve itself into a Committee
of Ways acid Means. towarJs raising the supply
granted to His Majesty ; which being read, he
moved—

That the r,•erti Amnon% relative to th. Re...emir of 1.,,
land, itreteotr.l t.. ihr Houle no the '24..h of Nlroli Wt. be
retorted to the uid Cestuittee.",

The House then resolved itself into a Committee 1
of Ways and Means (Mr. Alexander in the. chair).
Sir J. NE-WPOICI. said, it was his intention to !
lay before the (louse, this day, the sitnation of the !
revenue. of Ireland. He lamented that, for the
performance of this task, he wai not Wessel nitli
those pleasing and forcible powers of eloquence,
which m eminently distinguished hii Noble Itsiend,
the English Chancellor of the Exchequer; that
what he bad to deliver might make a deeper and
more lasting impression on the Committee. be
%meld. however, endeavour to gettcrm trio duty
assigned to him in plain, simple, and unadorned '
language. in which he hoped he should meet with
the indulgence of the Committee, Whil•t he tres-
vaiseci on their patience .fia that purpose. Aldintigh
he rs'ullsl not congratulate the Committee or te'c
cnnntrv, o: the iattiatiou nr sate of the rcto•nnes ( f
Irelantiat,the present moment, he hoped that was
owing to their not toeing so well methotlised, and
condo.2ed on a plan to regular and easfl, as those
of. Elgland were. He wished shicereiy, that the.
'ere once hiouglat to that desirable standard. and
then he should have the na,st A meting impes, that
the prosperity of Ireland would be every day on r"
the increase, and that she'woold become a Mtnt im-
port:nit awl valuable 4ssi,.t..!t?ce to this pea of the
1.1.n.e.t Empire. It wax itut.t.il iatentiou.le said
to trespass further on the- time of the Committee
that i.e could not avoid, :mil he witstald. therefore.
proceed immediately to rook- el' statements he
had to submit to the consideration of the Committee.
The exports of Ireland, during .the last year.
amounted to 3,2020)01. which was greater than
?..td hero known its aay year since 1792, and only,
surpassed by that year Another proof of the in-
crease of her prosperity was the gradual advantage
that had taken place in the course of exAany,
which, fur the last fur months, had be.ii more
steady even, than in any year before. A very et..n-
vinriitg wont of this was manifested in the terms
on which the last lose had been negociatecl, in pre-
I,
lerence, in a country whey* the Fate of
Neer than it is in etis, and atllere such a ttlitan-
tageltralains..espeactl to be nbtainAd ; be be
Iserjd, a lnan Oelllak„kiimpsbis eargwbeed met
Jrknown since the year 172 n. Thr2,o3rreCtrli
mimed ler Ireland, had been sloe* n the 3; 11r
ii,
nts which, score time sh.ces stood t 72 a apA
jksttion, and which, on the 24th of An 1, the mos-.
Ling on which the bidding was made, were at 71.
WMas taken by the cortra.Sors at I9s. bereadthe pike
saf. i.l-.e day. Another !treater advartage accrued to
the public from the terms; for having peen in tho 31
per cents. which, in a compari.on between Eintit.h
asci tersh money was as 2s. 4J. to 7.. lid. e weed a
diminution in the capital, of 540.0001. and com-
pared %t ills the loan of last year, was as hi. Hs. W.
to 41. I7s. 3d. which he looked on as a certainty r.f
the rowing prosperity of Inland. In making
this loan, it was singularly observable, that there
had. been two lists, which, withaut aar con-
ceit between the parties, contained exaeltt the
same terms, and therefore it had been rituutily di-
vided between them. It was now necessary far him
to state the
SUPPLIES
Two-seventetiotho of the Jaya charge of C.' I.i.t, for
11.05 t..— loth 14 .y.
British Mow —I.. 5.20 /,S2B. 1.. 6,7.:A,90ft
S....srate eh,rge. 3.1 it st.i.i.l 0.. WI ',loam, It' 6 2,9J.1,3.0
1: log.: n.. I o.ins tor IWO, including docowat a... 1
u.snagrmeot

313,64

Total Sooty 1..30:73,ies
And he should not have proposed to call on the
Committee to raise so large a sum by Loa ), if the
taxes of last year had not been greatly ,:imanished,
the causes of which diminution he could, how.c •r,
easily account for, and would do so on the first
favourable opportunity that occurred. He now
Came, he said, to the

ANS AILANS._.. -
which viele u Follow :
cstr swim,
Remaining In Eland of the I.oan of 1,500.000
ititleb, made la 13.)5 . . . L. 192,539
Aticieteeirem the Dish Treactry for °idealise Ser-
vices in Autumn, lauN, fume tepee!, 141.00 n
Una-third of /utter...v. itralsh isehee, 19!)P. 61 at.15,‘3,0
TweAreenteetattis ei Prue' free. the Crewe, tire,
117,646!. . 127.45:'

Due trboi Orret Britain for Seamen', W.:gre . So,elOis
Prod:A.' of Ro.c:se for tie wear IVO. nit
New DAtore NOW to be pr..tinsel . ;i,flfto,Coo
Loin in F.orl.oot . . 2,161000
1,111 ut tre:...l .
Dint. wit Ti.outy Brae 5U1,,01.0

Total Wale and Memo L 1.1111,4
Sappily' . • • kV: 5.194

Excess et Wain an 4 )4,mns L.
It now became his duty. he •Aid. to state the twigs
which he meant to lay on, in older to provide for the
interest of the loan. which he die, as follow :
The first was an augmentation of the tax or. sugar,
brown and Muscovado, of 3s 6i. per c‘st. whrch,
with equalising the duties on klast-Incia sugar. to
those of all other sugars, he e.tima4d at LO,OOOl.
the last year's produce was 74,0001. SO that he
thought 1 e might very fairly take it at the sum
stove stared. .1 he next was ironlie grt,pc.sed,
that the present duties of 14,*. 61 per too bhould
cease, ac.l in lira of it, to introduie a new duty of
2.. p...r cwt. to b. laid ca gubian and ether foreign

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iron. li'Must. he said, be for the inr.!res• • •
land to give a preference to England ttv-r
and other foreign countries, and :he amoont of t•
tax he estimated at 15,0031. Tea was the nett,
course, to which he proposed an additional duty to
VI. per aent..on the value of-tcas under 2,. li i r
pound, chiefly for the sake of regulation, which': e
would take at 2,0001. The next was Stermie; v,hirh
he intended to regulate by.a nett/anode of arra•Tv.
ment, for which purpose he proposed to repeal the
present existing stamp aZils, ano to have a new r
in th,•ir stead ; the whole arranger, nt of which
should he cocaine.] in a schedule, under ilikere,s
heads, with sLitable provisions, to prevent re
The several heads vr re—grants, deeds, let:as, and
processes, probates and commercial instr wirenrs; the
taxes to attach on al law proceedings in their fir.t
stage, that is, on the first process instead of the te•
cond, by which the public would come into the ri.
ceipt of the duties, instead of the attorney:; nq
licences for attorneys, 11. on ail attorneys ho have
not practised three years, attd 21. on those who have
pr.raised longer; stamps on weds from sz. to 10s.;
bonds, the duty on which was at present progressive,
but inA,!eqtaato., yrnbates above 3,5001. h^ troop
reduce t'. to make them equivalent to the En;tii,'lt
in other stamps of that den ,mincirn, fora less ow,.
he would propose a progressive addition, as tet II as
mortgage deed stamps, when used for • larger oan
than 50001.
The pieties cps Scam" 0047 from refl tatiunt, wy

about two-thirdi, exeluure of the S•antp Datie. .
on Entries,he estimated at L. Sti3O 0
On Entries inamds heirining witir Duties anrnant•
log to 51. and carrying them on peo;-ortinn..hly,
and ahobl lig, them on Bitle of Vole. .it.d Store,
stiiiein on t.t.tf,te pnd 4CC, • • - .2!,i;)3
utittuatpo3ll G atm. Stiii. N be .liseon-
tawd, .2”.(1 those oh 10S:0 Gallon mills to by
re.inie‘-d one hot to 11111111. the fall booms,
of IS lan es.n. on 1511 (A:lnn Stills cad
wank, and increanng the Worksop an :AA
Ga!l. it Snis, &c.
Malt H Asses i.t nut Cr wruv holm pot on the like
imting a th thins ut i)u-t •n and other hi,
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If Atictinns, Prrer•..Cy regulation only, no zel-
ditanall Any, oatiotat.d at
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11 tying Chu stated the urea, he said he night pro-
-21)111, he a.lced, seise hr had not looked forward to a
fond he.ita I men:lamed last Session, which was aylt
Of blirleell front d,:cesserl and dismissed collators ?
Ile W 3 t concetred to stem they were so Sartre, aed
yet it had beep impossible, as yet. to bring them ts
:soy fair and regular account, though every thier.
bad been put in trAill to d.; so. Tho,e belances, ;n
ISO f. -mom red to 136,0001.; iu 1625, they warr
423,0001. and last year there was air addition c
more than Teii, it permi;ted to protect'.
srefelcatin.4l4aanwethielpalell46l.lei
Ile bad • fast se,binn, t 3 lurge
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him great satiefaaion to th;.tr and m ors h.
ll 'ohirrOttee, that he was w toed in that deer,-
t.on, by returns bl theliQiicitters, who hao been ern•
toyed so isvestiratr the Issatisess, and he yeaid aro
state to tf • Cone/hi:tee rEe result of t15....41 examio..
tit n. roost eat i.,,,rd;r g:igtocti bad bids;
pet/ailed. in ihe e:Terta i 0 be. those cone:lore,. a:-
count. libuincient • creaks ha.fteeni resorted to„wl e•.
good ones ntivio have/eon proirsuest, and were pis: e.
by. He had. however, sent-to Inland pr.siteee ir-
struaions, that all those may be eta td who are ce•.: -
pet-or. Great mischief had accrued float th
neglea, for, :ram lapse of time, rnary of the:Pest:a
were trice conipeten*, were now dead, and
1, °My...tenants for life of their estates, th', sums
t had been answerable were roe ire
I covetable. Ho was read to state, her ever, fe..
there wa-. 110,0001. of that rhisney pertsely rs•
covetable; and when he knew the power Itt I"
C..wn was so much greater than that a ice
dual. towards the recovery of sums of mo:
slue to should think himself hirhiy it--
warrantable in comotg to ask money from
public. without having taken' every step as
•pnwet to recover what bad hero lone s:tt-, at
what cught to be pa;d immediately, or °there, e
payomut enforced as speedily as possible. This it
world take care should be done as long as he hells
present efike ; and he hLped the Committee would
netfet t.:ke their eye from those Conran:6, nor cease
o.etiangue Into those balances, from year to ye
and never leave them till an that w,it 'due haJ hee-
obtained. Taere was also a Report on the tat,:
from the Lie: n Eo.ad, in whk,, a considerable Jr
ficiency had been stated. It was demrm.oed
His Majesty's Ministers, that that Repo. r should ill
remain a dead letter.. huLal.e.t„tn..se tantew4r44
been gitilty of deco • sbentSUPtreecr rly Punts
ed ; astd 11/ra nil were pureeing to th t
There was anoteerlidnd also...the c.,:t;;;lxamoe
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tween fluent B-stain aeJ Itelaed. which lie no, c!•
in no dis-ant would be pro;htlive
the SUFI • desirasle pu-pose. He beg,„ed parsio
fur having so long trespassed on the t me of th:
Committee; arankeJ them for the a•tention wit:ea
they haJ sewn him, and hoped they weuld attribute
his having so long deteir.ed them, to the true CIO".
his hies perieide in the statements of such .details
had chat day fa:Mit to him to submit to their coo
sideration.
Mr FOXTEIt said. it may naturally he acceded
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that he should make P.me observatiors on a thy ct
with which he we. lately so much connected. ana
even alludedtu in, the Speech cf the lit.tht Hon. t'a"
ronet. lie expressed great satisfaction in hear'' t;
that the finances and trade of Irelansl were
in the Iltturishin7 situation represented ; bet 1-4
felt regret, at the simetitne, is to Are, trat
till Wlttiti these f•-ur • years the expetts hal r
doted more, and therefore left the balance agA r
its. If. however, it-were title. that since the
1772, the exports were never greater than in thel
year, and that the imports ~11: were inereas
they would be likely soon to hi iog back the bal. •e_
in our favour. The It it II tn. Baronzt said,
Isis intentions wets to raise the whole q rota of 1 e
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, Ise, or means of raisin any considerable portion
cf the supply within the year. If en, there was an
:la7.7.alarmirtg prospect of the growieg debt, wLch he
-:Mated the country would be unable to support.—
In the year 1797 the debt of 'lreland was-7.000,0001.
and proceeling in the same ratio of increase, in the
year 1807 it would be 61,,000.00‘.). 'I he disparity
would be very striking, if the' increase were com-
pared with what took place In t..e debt of irrgland
since the Union. sVhe a th ri event occurred, the
debt of Ireland was only 52,000,000, and this.
year it was double. Ile debt of Great Britain
was 460.000,0001. and was now no more than
.548,000,0001. which the House mtot perceive not to
be by any moans in the proportion of 71 to one.
which was the quota settled for the cnntribu-
tints of Ireland. It was therefore the interest
of Great Britain, as well as Ireland, to take
the best means of keeping down the debt of
Ireland ; as when the period of equali,ing the
jurist contribution 'haunt arrive, that debt would
tall upon the finances of this country. This he only
stated at present, for the purpose of chewing the
neccssity.of raising a great portion of the expcnce,
ha taxes within the Year. In the present year. two
were raised for the service of Ireland. by
loan, but it moat be remembere A, that one half of
it wit supplied by agents going rover there from
Br' •h houses, and purchaiidg trans the funds of
this country. He congratulated the Right Hon.
Bert. ass the eirctunslanasof tbr Irish loan bein,n,
raised this year at 7s. per cent. less than the loarli
for England. which wits certainly a symptom of the
grossing prnsperity of the country. As one means
of courinuing and increasing that prosperity, he
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reciansmend to the hrinistera or that country,
to take measures for equalising the exchanee.
Much, however. WAS done by the c nduct of the
late 74.:ard of Treasury, which left it on the sth of
January last, without one farthing of unfunded debt
ur Treasury hills unpaid; a circumstance he uclieved
which scarcely ever happened in that country be-
fore. The bad c nsevence complained of. as
mitring from the too great issuse of piper, way in
some nr-asure rem died y toe conduct of the late
Treasury in sen over ulcer Weeps. The quan-
tity so transmi was to the value of 250 0001. in
silt, dte remainder in copper, making in the
who!: 531 4391. Bat even that was far from canny
sufficient his .fie 'wants of the country. which would
.at least recptire a circulation of silver tn the amount
of one million Ile had alteady stared, that when
the Members of the late Board left the 'treasury.
net a farthing remained due to any one pet.ogi ~n
the establishment; nor did their Incessant' find any
arrears whatever, or any balance due. In the year
before that, there was in the hands niche Receiver
General a baler% e. of 350,0001. ail of which they
tecoverd,eacopt About the sum of 11.0001. It svgs
true. however, that they also took off all the erne.
lumen's 14afere attached to the office of Teller of the
Exchequer, for which et wa, their iutentinn to make
a compensation. WILT having recovered from him a
baiarce of 150,0001. Such were a part r, the practi-
cal effects of the new regirlations he inrtochiced into
different departments, but they were Mimed in the
bud about the chose of the last Sensican, notwith-
statudieg thatrianereoet material of ttem were stp.
- ported by the Comani.sionert of the Costott.t. By
the estimate made in last June isesivemonth. he,
calculated on an increase in the revenue ntrrtn,ooll:'
to which he expected to add 400.0001. by the duffles
cn distilleries and malt ; bin as there articles dud not
rise in price, the last calculations was not realized.
He then entered at large into a just ficatien if the
measures adopted in his aerninistrrion, and into
tae produce of the varioris tales in different periods ;
from which be interred, that in the last year Ind a
half there was an increase done million and a half,
which would show that the resources of tl:e Irish
revenue were not misconceived by him. The Hight
Honourable Baronet had stated, that there was of
the produce of Last year, 240,0001. remaining in the
bands of the collectors, which. however, would be
made good ; hat he might also have added, that
r'cre was a great defalcation in the (collection itself.
J'or instance. the dtitiel on coachrnakers and bra.
tiers were nor collected at all, and the smugglingof
tobacco in Ireland was too notorious tor him to be
under the necesnt r of proving i t. The wine duty also,
which in IWO produced a revenue of 200,0001. was
is a great measure lost to the public, by allowing
merchants to place the cargoes in warehouses, by
which they evaded the payment of the duties, at
the same ',me that they charged them to their cur-
, Somers. In proof of this, he said, that eo or .30
tons of wine. were„in one day, taken openly from
the.quays in Dublin, without paying any ditty.
Great losses were also sustained in the Custom Du-
by the frauds committed in the importation of
d sir, ba: k. and van: us other articles. The arti-
cle cif wrought iron would require the greatest yr-
iobince and attention. In the last year, the ditties
Arnett:tied c:O• to 53,8001. which was 38,0001
less than what should be expetleJ from the retains
of the criantity exported to Ireland from Great lir'.
lain only ; so that the mistake or fraud must have
occurred titter in the customs of h:teat Britain or
Ireland. He then referred to the new taxes
proposed this evening, many of which he thought
would not prove very produtiee One of
these was the additional duty of is. 6d. a hun-
dred on sugar. That article had been lately
subjeated to a high duty, which brought 130.0001.
more than the sum at which it was estimated a but,
as the country was now overstocked with it. airless
it shoald riser in price, the tax would not produce a
farthing. The estimate made. that the new duty
oat tea, tinder 21. 6d. which had II great ionsurnp-
bon in trelar,d, would produce only n.OOOl. he
thought must be a mistake ; as the duty on the
same article. last yea., produced no less a sum
than 4510001.; and, on the same scale, this
adlitiotal tax ought to yield 70,0001. As to
the tax upon printing presses. he did mu well
understand what it meant. There was no licence
required for any other presses but these of pacer-
stainers ; which had no relation to any other sant rf
printing. A. to the balances in the haaas of the
different ColleCors, which were reduced from
443,0001. to 200.0001. he had only to say, that no
palm were taken to enforce the recovery of ha-
lances from the dismissed and deceastol ColleScws ;
and Ire tirougll the Right Hon. B.trt. would .find
himself deceived, if be relied on the recovery of
thou balances as a eery produehre fund • He rhea
stated the aware of the improvements be intended

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to propose, had be remained in office. The first
was to relieve the Woollen Trade from the diffi-
culties under which it laboured. In the second
place, if the two countries were to be put
in all other respects upon the footing of equality,
it should extend to the interest of money, whirl'
England was at 51. and in Ireland at 61. per cent.
and this must he an eternal obstacle to their pos.
sessirg an equality of trade. His next olsj-et would
be to equaliw the currency of both countries, and
give to Irish merchants the same advantages of ware-
housing and bonding their goods, in the same man-
ner as was done in England ; with these and SOfile
other regulations, he should hope the country would
prosper, if it were not kept back by a yea' ly increase
of the public debt.

Mr. I. CORRY acid, the Right Honourable
Gentleman seemed to have ten distinet ob.;,,,rts in
his -speech ; first, to ethic:lse on the propo;als of
the Right Honourable Baronet ; and secondly, to
give himself a sort of posthumous budget of what
he meant to propose, had he remained in office.
If he thought there should he an assimilation of the
currency of both countries, why did lie not bring it
forward while he remained insar. official 'slittation
Why had he not done the sante with regard to the
equalisation of interest ? The f4c was, that he
. knew io4o he impossible, theußS pethans he might
have ri4sfe some experiment tithe kind, if lie had
not been checked and toter' uled by the bodies.
our gen'us of that great mew (Mr. Pitt) whose
loss he, in common with the majority of the empl-
oy, must for ever depinre. It was very desirahle,
that the /Inure should not be led iiirn any delusion
on these stthjefis. It was not the preferable security,
but the greater interest to be obtained in Ireland,
' which conveyed to it a considerable porthiu of the
capital of this cemiary ; and a bill to equalise the lo-
wer, in which the 1114 ht klon. in (Mr.
' Foster) was very aaive, had some years Hee been
rej-fled, for these reagens, by the Parliatneni of
Ireland. The Right Hon. Gentleman also recotto
mended to rai,e • great part of the snppiies within
the year ; hut he had made that experiment him-
tell, and the pr °dice of his owe taxes gave nn en-
conragement to such a proceediag. If he thought it
die. *by did he not dnantimselt in theolaist year?
He had else said. that it was an unprecedented thing
' to leave the Treasury Board eat Ireland without one
shilling of unfunded debt, any Eitclieqtier hills, or
any salaries linpatd. This was r teat strange, as,
when he succeeded hint (4r. Corry) in office, he
found the reastiry in exactly the same si-station ;
a ai one of his first m-asitros was to revive 504.0001.
or Ezehecieer hills, which he ( Mr. Corry) had paid
off. The Right Hon. Gentleman complainedsat
too much circulation of paper, but his Bill of .fisst
year had innedated Ireland wit'a paper curniticy.
It made-very little difference. whether the losfi was
male in England or Ireland, as the Et:cit:nor come
to t.:te Irish mar ket at any rate, and the stock-
boldte hi En land receive his interest tic ti Inland.
It was also au error to say, that the cr)ileams' ba-
lances Were 210.0401. when, in fa& they were an
nl.'re time 41.4)01. He then said, that he was 'id-
ling to annfine himself to these stet-meats for the
present, hot should enter more at lalAt into the
suaikiet, it he should ever hear Mr. Feuer repeat
any similar sespresseons.,
tSt be d;tl Wit,wherein
erica, impose to equalise the coin or the interest
of money, because the circumstances of the me-
oient tendert,' it imprafticable, there iaeiug very
tittle god or silver in the country.
Nit. PARNELL said, that hefted a great dislike
to raisirg the supplies only by a loan, because,
thotieh the revenues of Ireland had is creased, the
expeaditure bad acceded them ; the country, had
now rally Orae millions of revenue toouppiy five
millions of expenditure. If this system were to con-
timer, he did not see how it would he pas,ible to
provide the supplies for future years. Since the
year 1802, there were taxes to supply the interest of
2,1100,0001. and yet the revenue was only beoetitted
50,0001. by them. The increase of the deficiencies
of taxes must prove either that the resources of the
country were inadequate. or that there was great
mismanagement in the collection of them On
a conimaison of the exports and impisrts, it
should seem, that by the former, the wealth of Ire-
land was considerably increased of late years ; and
the inference was confirmed by the improvements
carrying on in buildings. For some time pass,
though the export of ankles of food was much
diminished, yet the import trade was greatly aug-
mented; and when a country was enabled to ream
its food at home for the consumption of its own inha.
Intents, it afforded an indubitable proof of its pros.
perity. For these reasons, he was inclined to attri-
bute the failure of the revenue to mismanagement
in the colleaion ; and if the debt of Ireland were
suffered to accumulate in the same ratio that it had
done for some years past, in fifteen years hence,when,
by the Aa of Union, the funds and debts of both
countries %sere to be united, the debt of Ireland
would amount to 120 millions, which, as that coun-
try would be unable to pay, must ultimately fall on
the finances of Great Britain.
Mr. ROSE said, that the failures in Ireland had
not amounted to a loss of 50001. upon this country:
he had, nevertheless, heard witis pleasure, of the
means embraced for preventing their recurrence.
The policy of raising the suppiies for the public
service, within the year, for which they were appli-
cable. he thought most salutary and sound: but the
Right Hon. Baronet had not proposed to raise more
than 6or 700,0001 more than the interest of the
debt, and therefore the civil list of Ireland, at Wtll
as the navy and army. remained unpoosided for.
The equalisation of the currency between this coun-
try and Ireland, was a very desitable measure, and
one which was not now first agitated, but it had
beers focnd that many preliminary steps were neces-
sary to its accomplishment.
Mr. LEE thought that, considering the great
debt, and the extent of the taxation. the specie of
Leland was not sufficient for all the purposes of that
country. There was no solid groeni for taking off
the resvicti in on the Bank of Ireland, so long as it
continued in England. lf, whilst the exchange
cootinued at 11 against Ireland, the reurietion were
to be removed. there would not, in a short time, be
a guinea left in that country ; and, as lon% as it eon-
tinned, he thought the small paper currency a nee
y sevrieeeent for the common purposes of
lit's:, in the markets, and he did not see how it mild
be said to fain the course of excba:ige against Ire-

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land. Some time ago, the exchange was at 17. I hat
now the issue of paper had very much increa cd, ii,,
WAS only 11. The English arid Irish guinea and
shilling were of the sam-• vane ; it V.:IS in half-
pence that there was a deficiency ; and by send-
ing over a larger copper coin, the
solicit of
equalising the currency would be answered.—
To lower the interest of money in Ireland would'
he a most desirable thing ; and the great difficulty
alleged to exist in effeCaing it, might be removed.
by providing, that all bargains to ba made should
be only at an interest of .5 per cent. w!lilst those me
isting previous to the passing of an all, might be
legalised, until the stipulated period of their expira-
tion. The Hon. Member thought that the barriers
against raising the supplies in Ireland within the
year were insurmountable, as the money was so ne-
cessary to the trades and manufaftures ; and thought
that, consider jog the loan of Loser millions,the taxes
proposed by the Right lion. Baronet were more
mild and moderate than could have been expelled.
Mr. ROSE explained.
Sir J. NEWPORT said, that heavy taxes could
not be imposed upon ire/and at the time a supply
Was necessary, consistently with anywise or efficient
princ.igiu. This had been strikingly exemplified in
the la additional tax uf,:n wine, winch had ope-
rated so as to rIC7 ;cir:l a d4alcatic!7, in ..he last
year. of ;4,00C1. froni a I eVent:l: of about
320,0001. which it had y:eldesl the year before.
worilslatrougly ,rove how .delicate and careful
the iegistature ought to hi., nix to push taxation
to' All a stint, which made induce the consumer
.quish. the use of the article entirely.—
Net only ;he reduced consumption• of wine. but
the increased numher of absentce. from Ireland,
were ettributiede to excess'ut taxation. At resuit,
he was Tiepin, to state, that it was not necessary t
resort to any great increase of the impitits on that
coontry as at the end of the last year. there re-
Mained 800,0001. due to Ireland, not drawn over
Irons England, and which would more than cover
the outtanding Treasury bills ; and although he
meant sane to give the House a power of calling for
.500,00dt. he had reason to believe, that not more
than half world he wanted.
Mr. GRATTAN Could not entertain the idea of
making Ireland bed all her resources in the year for
which they were to be applied. Tiro years ago.
thisrinciple hail hePn extended to the inflittion of
ate additional Itn.Ofttll. a year ; and ii, every 'se-
cond yrar,dle Minister were to come to Parlialmot,
with a new system of taxation, it world alarm the
pet*? of Ireland, ant the measures would, in all
probahii'ry,entirel;• fail of their objA. However the
prosperity of the vottntty might have increased. its
• wealth was not such as to encnerage new taxes.
The increased wealth arose in part front the issue of
paper; but every m•ller was a Maker, and he feared
it was a false capital; the aggregate opulence of the
country w.tl, however. considerably increasing.
The Right lion. Baronet was certainly right nor to
precipitate Ireland into the system .raggested ; but
it was a discussion not called for now, and he (Mr.
Grattan) considered it wrong to introduce any
question on Irish affairs, extraneous to that before
the tlous► t be would, therefore, at Once, give his
a,senr. to the modeler.
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diseir;pn ;ran and sugar. hernieast Mr. Fosrter.r, Mr.
Hose, Sit J. Newport. Mr. Corry, Mr Van,ittast,
Lod Henry Potts, and Cord.Castieretgh.
Ihe Resolutions were then put and speed en; the
report ordered to be received to-n.orroiv, and the
Committee to sit again on h inlay
At the in Lance of Lord Grry de Hourick. Mr
Jeferies consented that the motion of which he
had some time since given notice, should stand fir
Tuesday nett.
Mr. Tit NFX postponed the consideration cf
the Treatinz till Monday. •
LOTi HENRY PET f Y moved the Order of the
Div, for int flier considering, the Property Tax Bill.
On the gut., eirm that it be re-committed,
Sir H. !MILDMAY observed. that many Mem-
bers had been impressed with the belief, that it
would not come on that night, and the opinion had
b en rather tanftione4 by the Noble Lord hims-if.
Lord FIRS RY PE ry replied, that he bud al-
ways expressed his intention of bringing the cries.
lion on then, if the other business before the House
would permit him ; at the same time, he had no
objedion to meet the desire of the Honourable Ba-
ronet as far as he could ; to which end, all that he
should propose would be, that the Bill should be
re-committed.
Sir H. MILDMAN said, that, to his certain
knowledge, a number of Members had left the
House, under the impression he had stated.
Mr. WM. smirk' rose.--However much re-
litaance he •frlt to opposes measure of his Right
Hon. Friend (Lord H. Petty). he certainly had
great objeBions to this tax ; and he could not but
feel for those who brought forinard a Bill.- which
he was sure they must condemn. The Property
Tax, as it was called. was certainly altered from the
Income Tax, hot more in its denomination than in
its effect ; and he could not hut consider this new
name As something like hanging out false colour.,
to avoid the odium the old tax had acquired, whilst
the new one was really almost entirely the same.
The principle of disclosure. wilich rendered it so ob-
jeCtionable, and which only the almost omnipotent
power of the Right Hon. Gentleman by whom it
was first introduced, could have reconciled the House
to, was till a feature of it, and vitiated the whole.
But there were other objeEtiont : the tax, he thought.
if tolerated at all, oughts to affret more those better
aisle to bear it, and less those whose means were
moderate. He feared, from whet he had learned,
that this was a radical defret. With what propriety
could it he called a properf 1 tax ? Cc tIJ trades and
professioLs be called a property ? If a man
had 5101. a year, which he derived from his
business and his industry, should he be taxed for
that in the sarne proportion as the man who en-
joyed $OOl. a-year from fee farm rents ?--The
term t• property" was only a disguise, whilst the
tax was really one on copied/. The system oh dis-
closure, detestable in any case, applied principally
to those to whom it was most grating and in.
jurious ; those who most wished that their concerns
should not be known to all the world ; and whilst
this continued a commercial country, that was an
objection that would also cominue. He knew not ir to
what other hands the dutycould be placed, but it was
a most unpleasant circumstance, that Government

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were obliged to eitplery so many inetwenrs and se'-
: yews. who were empowered to inquire iuto the
eircirattaaCtit of every man, and often ex rejoin
their authority. froth rotatives in which iednitry,
zeal, and fidelity, were terms that served only for
cloak. With tcspeet to raising the slily to ten p-r
cent. he had very little ohjeClion to that, mote than
tbia ha propiation to the a'n' unt iif the tat, nn en-
cou:agernent was afnirded to attetnpt evasion. It
was of Very little conselpi-rice whether it was five
or ten per cent. because i, wis known. that the
movie; must he taivi„.l ; Hear ! ! lout the
nhj-Rion was, that the tax operatici unjustly, in..
AitTng on Pert! blitheit on the nem who had ail
business worth three years' Fire use, and the man
who hat a capital worth thirty Yeats' purchase.
He wondered how such a rnlasure equld be
ated, ar.d much wished the Nnhle Ltrd(Petty) cool VII
in his ingenuity, devise a tax less intiJarnent.illy LoU•
jedionahle.
Sir ROBERT BUXTON thought the tax unjust.
On a former night it had be;n said, that it shouldid
operate at.e. feed.leas, under which no eiem tom.'"
Were to be allowed. The policy of this principle
had been formerly confuted, having been &Red epos
and relinquished. The Honourable er ar,,ner par-
ticularly called the attention of the. House to
the situation of country gentlemen of about 10001.
a-year, who wool] feel the tax ' e'yoad all navvy"
and would be driven by its pressure from Oleic
country seats into towns, where they conld.wit b‘
useful in the eminent 'leaf Which the a-Iniquity of
their families, and their capacity as magistrates;
rendered them in their parishes ; where, by their
presence and king residence, they gave to the law :!
a Weight which it world not whei wise carry. No
men at any time m na warmly supported the war./
or saw moreclearly the necessity of its vigorous pro.'
tuition now, than the Hon. BAI Opt!. ; wished to
give all the support in his power 1,, the Ministers,
and said thus much now, only with a view el inti- •
mating that he had some objeetiors to offer to the
tax in a future stage.
Sir 11 MILD AY objeceted to the partial ope •
ration-of the Bill on the lan ied property of the
country. He did:not mean tcl, say that the landed
interest were not able to sianport the tax, and much
more, if the wisdom of Parliament shoithi deem it •
right to inflict it, but it was extri mely- desirable t.
that property should be equally assessed The small
landed p:omietort, with large families, would
feel the Aft with particular seveiity, as 004 •
were nn abatements allowed for children. The
great variety of etroiroc,s incidental to thtt sunpert
and education of large families would, he hopeob*
point these proprietors not tothe House eel( oh*
to have abatements extended to. The Hon. e
ber pointed cur some other things which he thou
required imitrovethent in the Bill, but as they will
be repeated in the committee, 'vs abrain at present
from following h'ith into all the branches of his
speech.
Mr. PERCIVAL stated, that he: had always
been a !Heed to the :tee, and thrught he shoal.' best ;t•!.
evince ius disposition to assist G..yernmert, by stet- 10:
lag that be would ant one moment oppose the
Speaker's lensing the Chair, in brder to this import.
ant Bill henl direely tiisenned, and passed .into a
WWl* Tbs. retwould -fail use evenly and teeth
ripen toe yieeple, than any that could possibly be de-
Thad for raithle such a sum as it was calculated to
prodase. The a:lowence of abatement he thought
was a question w. ich deserved to b- well consider-
ed ; but if the Noble Lord (Petty) found, that any
extension of indigence, in that ship-, was really
issennipae.bie errs the ediciency of the Bill, be
w sold not pr et• it.
Mr. WILBr.RFORCE said, he rose not for the

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purpose of coposing the Speaker's lrarir.g the.
Chiti7, but to say he should embrace a fu-
ture opportunity of arguing the necessity of allow-
ances to persons having large families, It should
be remembered. that the hithers of those fami-
lies had to Moore their lives. as:he only way of pro-
viding t.ir their widows and duldren. Hr Ciould
also press upn,n the I louse. in proper time, the situ.
aeon of sobalrern officers in the aims, and navy, and
'particularly of clergymen solys;song uom small in-
comes. mid i 10711 left wit, small provisions. which
they could 11,1 angmert. He highly approved of
the principle of rail ug a great sum within t:te year.
to answer foe exigencies of the stare. and that it
was that alone which would afford us security in
peace, or success in war.
Mr. ELLISON made a few observations is fa.
your of the tax

Mr. 3PENt ER STANHOPE thought, that to
admit of no exemptions was a bad principle of tax-
ation, and that it was neither poli.ic nor humane to
allow the tointated amount of thi tax to stand in
the way of abatements, in hard cases. He deckled,
however, that be had never known a Minister in the
,sitoation of the Noble Lotd (Petty), scho had not
*et his fat* against all exemptions.
Lord HENRY PET 1 Y said, that the opposi-
tion which had been that night expressed to the
Rill, it was not necessary then to answer. He did
not mean to iay that the measure Was the most
equal, or the most perfect, that it was possible for
human ingenuity to device ; and perbaps a .
tax on repital, or a variation of the tax, as applied tp
the different spreies ofp-operty,would be prefer:oAl
bot, under the present circumstances of the country,
it would be wrong to relinquish a iced system, for
the sake of embarking into a new and complicated.;
arrangement. The principle of exemption. he wail
convinced, was one by which the individual gained
anal the public lost most ; and, in propor-
tion as the operation of an aft was simplified.
by great and general rules, its pnisloce was secured.
lc would hoc. me his duty, however painful, to op-
pose all exemptions proposed and when Gentle-
men were sold that by acceding. as he had, to the
representation lately made. as far as regarded small
annuitants, the loss of the country would be
353,0001. be tinned they o ouid no longer press
exemptions, which strock at the root of ti.e sal.
Mr. XVILBERFORCE, Mr. ROSE. and Lord
HENRY PETTY said a koi words in expLanai.on,
after which the Bill went through a Committee, pry
farina. Progress was reported. and it was ordered ,
that the Committee should it agana on blonder
I next.

Committee ro the F 3,11 ler the repeal cf :he
AdJition4l Farce Act was p-stpooeS until to-nuat-
row (this d.O).
Adjourned at llalf•patt Verso o'Cleek.

FOREIGN INTELLIGENCR.

RAMBURGII MAIL.

cotisrasertmorrts. APRIL 2.
The coolness which subsisted between the Mi-
nisters of the rtate and the Russian Envoy, hiving
become serious, the latter, by order of his So-
vereign, transmitted a Note to the Sublime Porte by
the pets Effendi, itt which he says, that as the alte-
rktion in the disposition of the Porte must proceed
from a groundless mistrust, and an unjust sus-
picion, which it may have conceives(, that
the military dispositions made by Russia, for
her own security, were directed against the Note,
he again declared, most solemnly, by order of his
t•Coud, that His Imperial Majesty had never enter-
tained any such intentions, and that he pledged him-
self anew to fulfil all the articles of the treaty of
waity which bad jest been concluded with the Porte,
PM their Canso extent ; and to give the most con-
vincing proofs of the purity of its sentiments, and
the probity of its intentions, the Court of Russia
had detei mined to remove every objet that might
enviable of again exciting the suspicions of the
!eerie ' y withdrawing every corps which it had un
if:- t-antiers of Turkey, in the Crimea. tvloldavia,
and W..llachia, and that it had already given the
oecesotry orders for that purpose.
The Porte has replied to this note, that all its
wishes were confined to the presetvati,n of its neu-
trality ; that it else pledged itself to fulfil the treaty
which had recently been concluded ; and in proof
of its pacific views, it should immediately counter-
mand all the military dispositions which it had
Made, with the exception of those which were di-
rated against the rebels in Servia.
VILPINA, •PRIL 23.
k. The French are still at Brannau ; the regiments of
%array. ;and of the Archduke Francis Charles,
have quitted Vienna ; the oust for St. Hy polite,
mil the other for Lintz.
Part of the coin and money which had been pre.
armed to fire Emperor by the rich individuals of
Hunger?, will he distiihuted among those inhabit-
' outs of the country who have suffered most. The
remainder will go towards forming or completing
the twittery magazines. The Archduke John his
remised here Irons the tour he made for the par-
rot.** ot examining the principal fortresses of the
Kevin.
BERLIN, APRIL 29.
M. Alopeua, the Russian Minister at our Court,
received an estafette front the Russian Consul at
hire/in, writ+ brings the news of the. Swedes having
Modeded the port of Swinemunde ; the Swzdisli
government has also laid an embargo on all Prussian
ships i it is thAight. that in conseqeence of these
eas of hostility, the Prussian troops will enter Swed-
ish Pomerania.
The English Minister is. on the ere of his depart-
ure, but has not vet left Berlin. It is even thought,
that he e-41 he replaced by another diplomatic agent,
mace Baron Jacobi, our Envoy et Letteon, has not
bees recalled. .
AtCSIIVIIIIII. APRII 'R.
A t min of the head. sorters of the French
c;ea
army has lett Ulm for Strasburg. and it is
r . that the remainder will follow'within a few
deys ; the advice' received by the last post from
lusts, make no mention of the evacuation of Cat-
tarn be the Russians ; as, the contrary, the letters
ken Trieste state, that the English and Russian
ships no the coasts of Dalmatia, increase daily.
The report circulated at this moment is, that
hlanhal Soul: has received orders to march with his
corps, with all hot', to Italy.
FROM T/112 RANI:A OP TIIS MAINE, APRIL 26.
Considerealt train. of Artillery have arrived at
Viettna from Huegary and Bohemia. which are in-
tended to supply the Arsenal of that Capital.

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