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TULSDAY, M.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

The Linen Bounty Bill, the Supe Bonet! Draabsck
Bill, and the Militia (...:orapktion Bill, were severally read a
sec I time, and committed fur tomorrow.
. .

The Iri.htiugar Drawback Rill went thrungh • Committee;
the Report to be received to-morrow,
Alr. Friar R gave malice, that be would, tomorrow, move
fur 111 r app oo Ikk t meat of a Committee, to lake into curinillera-
Lori the nitarramise in Melt, between England and Ireland.
The Free Pert Bill was read a third time and pissed.
LORD FMINE.
•

Sir JOON ANSTIUTICIA rose to correct • mistake
which had gone forth to the public. with respect
to whitt tell trom titan in allusion to a Noble Lord
(Erskine) on the discussion upon the bye-law of the
Bendier* of Lincoln spun. He never meant to
state that the Noble Lord in question presided at
the enacting of that law. The true state Of the
matter was this ; on the 3th of February. 1808. the
report of certain Barristers was received by the
twitchers, which report recommended this, among
eller enatttnentA. It was upon that occasion that
the Noble Lord was present, and then the an►wer
returned to the report we., that it should be taken
into the earliest counderati•m. It was o• a sub-
sequent day. wh n the Noble Lord nos not present,
that the lee w made.

ARCH 27, 1810.

Mr. StigRIDAN a.id, he had this day received a
letter from the Nibble Lord, maksiiK a similar state-
ment, and furth r saying, due atter the informstios
thrown on the subject. b. t►e discussion in the
[louse of C • 11111 l nos, he would have withdrawn his
consent from such a law, if Lver he had, without due
cnit,idet anon, given it; which, however, be had not
done.

suss.f loth I...uses, as tu r,,,tfrge, sere caned foe
sad afterwards rta..seretl, bat ofteaer resisted M e wig
tans; tae "Übe dears= the lasarpatte4 Jibe
usrs.es aggrieved the aut►onty of bath Tl 4, 8.••
WU la, that when the le !gra of tit: lead uta: w.ta, A.

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land have contended from the earliest ages, and dear glare- nowarramahle power, they sheltered Memo....
pus success iii *kids contests are slow upon sword in the i broad shield of Niteroi Charm, sad the trial by Jury, • ell
Great Charter of our 'tights and Liberties., and in divert ktiowitig the value o/ such a proh-ction, and they conclude
other subsequent statutes of scarcely leas importance. It with the Idles bag reinaikable words —" Some prisons have.
was this same great unaciple, which vas again attacked by perhaps, from a diffidence of success, or frum a slavish fear,
Charles the First, in the immure of Ship Motley, when again or private policy, foe borne to que nun the power of their la-
the People of Englard, and an uncarropted Howe of Com Periods, but the Judge s must betray their reputation, and
mom, remelted ilie contest ; • contest which ended in tbe int- their knowledge of the law if they altualil own a joreadic-
prisonment, the trial, the condemnation, nod the execution. vino, *inch former times la.,
their predecessors were sno-
ut that ilhadijaed King. The selfsame principle it was, quaiated with." If the reasons (adds he), were roselosivn
that was so daringly violated by his sou. James the kreond ; I against the jurisdiction of the House of Lords, they apply
for which violatiuo he was compelled to lire from the just in- tomb more forcibly to the House of Common; for the
dissation of the people, who nut °lily Mend him of his Crown, House of Lords retinas the judicial authority of the Portia-
hat who prevented that Celina trout descending to his family. meat, being a Court of Appeal; but the House of Commons
I• all these contests, the courage, pehimenume, and forts. has nejodicial function to perform, sad is no Coot at all."
tide of our ancestors, couspieruns as they were. were nut The retest of the privileges '" tbe House of °minim)" (he
mur• so than their widow ; fur, talk as lung as we will observes) canoe be better set forth than in the Order of the
about rights, liberties, lemmatises, privileges. and immuudies, tst June, loci, supposed to have beam drat.. up by Sir Ed-
of what avail are any, or all of them together, if our penes, wai-el Coke, thou a leading Headier of the House.
can, at the sole will and command of any man, or set of men, " Ordered, opus, questiour 'that it any arrest, or any
he sewed on, thrown into prison, and there kept, during the distress of goods, arming any process, mninionine his land,
pleasure of that man or set of roes? If every ooc of you be diatom or summoning his person, arresting hie person, suing
liable, at any time, to be sent to jail without trial, and without him in any Court, or breaking airy other pnvilege of dais
oath made against you, sad there to be detained as hinges it Howie, a letter shall Moe, woke Mr. Speaker's band, foe
pleases the pities sending you there (perhaps to the end of the party's relief thesis, mlf the Parliament was sitting ;
yogi life)wit kart any Cow tto Appeal to, withoet any mesas of sod the party, ceasing to obey it, to IX censured at the neat
redrese—i f this be the case, shall we still boast of the laws sad Access
of dm liberties of England ! Volumes bane hers written, by Mr. LITHERIDGIE thanked the Hon. Baronet foe
fareigares, as well as by our uwu countrymen. in praise of his frankness. In hie opinion the paper thus ac
that part of our law, which, in so admirable a manner, pro- knowledged was a high insult to the House, and a
vides fur our preload safety against any attacks of Rico in
power. This has, indeed, hews, in all ages, the pride of our gross violation of its privileges. He was nut tierce.
emetry ; and it iv the maintenance of this priori* which touted to address the House. land begged the Ni -
enabled us to escape that bondage, in which all the states and ble Lord opposite would eztetid his iiidulgi wee to
kingdoms an Europe were eatkralled by abandoning and him. (Here Mr. L. alluded to an interruption given
Ikeda?. tt up; and, we may be meshed, that if we mew him by Lord Folkstime.) To-morrow he
it,woundabaad the "tight d• 11 of E. 16•4" glory "114 t
in
lice
submit a short (notion to the House on thin sub. •
night of her disgrace. Jett.
• Bet I would fam believe that each is net to hector fate Lord Fotletrou it submitted.whetlia r, in a matter
Otir forefsthrts made stern grim. vissrd Prerogative hide his of this kind, it would rot be amore decorous for the
head ; they broke in piers* ha sharp sod mealy sword. And House to proceed immediately to its discussion,
shall we, their OHM, he afraid to enter the lists with utolefilied
Privilege, assuming the peewees of Prerogative? without the formality if a previous notice ?
. I shall be told, perhaps, that there is nit much dagger Earl Tor !LE expressed. a similar typhoon.
of this power being very fiteratly exercised. The same The Sesaxata said, when a person wen absent.
apology may be volute fur the mercies deny power whatever. against whom a charge was made. it was Clot a y
Idu not suppoin• that the Gentlemen of the House of Coru. tit direct him to aleuel in his p'ar'e ein a luture dy.
tel Ons Will Mal ...ny of rue to jail, when yun do not di.plesse of which notice was given. If tin perm a was p.• -
them. Mr. Yorke did not move fur the seneliii.t of Mr. Jon, a
mail Mr. Jones displeased "OA, ; hut, it is not a very sent, it Was still competent to the Mend er making
to jail, u
greet compliment to pay to any Constitution, to say, that it the Change, to bring it forward, either at the mu-
does not permit a sae to be imprisoned, unless be has there meat, or name suutner day, more • o.,veo,ent to the
something to el:4omm persona in power. It would be dilL• House.
ran, I should suppose, Masi any man upon earth, however Mr. LET 111111• 041 R, its tie could not be aware whe-
despotic his disposition, who would not be contented with
the power of scathing to prima, during his pleasure, every thee the 11011. CdrOelt f • ould be in his plate Or 110',
use who .1 ..... ht dare to du any thing ta displease Lieu. Be- had come d lien to the House, with the intantionsof
sides, whys I an, told, that there is little danger that the Moving. " That he shoold be directed to attend to-
tioutkasea iu the House of Commons will e.t.a exercise morrow." Fiiidisig him in his place, he conceived the
this power, I cannot help n! sorting, that, though the es.
best mode of procedure to be, to give the notice he
ampler may be few, their effect will, naturelly, be great and
general. At this moment, it is (ere we see Wit nee man sir- had giv..n. mid, in courte.y. walk across the Wiese.
sooty in jail fur having displemei dame Gesitkmen ; bet, to the Hon. Baronet, sod 'prom haul of the precise
the fate (Adds one man (as is the effect of all punishments) aster, of Ins 'notion.
will deter others from espressior their opinions of the Cola Ste F. BURDETT having fret ly answered the que ..
duct of those aho have had the power to punish hum Atari,•
nun, ores, it is to the altars of all power, and especially of 110 is put to him by the Hon. Gentleman, al ices
assiuned aud undefined power, to iacrease as it advances is hr was not compelled to do. wished him, in ret,int,
air; and, as Mares Charts sad the law of the Land have 10 point out, we, the precise object he had io view
nut helm walftrieat to protect Mr. Joan; as we have ems be his motion.
him seat to jail for having deacytwel the conduct of one of • The Spe•aassobsevved. that tti Ilise would
the soreabers,llll as orit.ae, $4,70a pit6lic fortis!, what security •
lase, we, nidos thin power a in,p,...,, g; give. 0p.0,,t either hear the matter now or not. The Wou• tient.
we shalt not see other mew sent to jail for statism their opt. might deliver in the paps.? alluded to this Mai g,
aim respecting Britten Boroughs, respecting Marrows and and proceed upon it immediately, or at a MLitt
Pessiosers settling in the Hullo.; or, in shwa, for making time. as his on it discretion suggested.
any declaration, giving say opinion, stating any fact, betray• Mr. LLIMBILIDGE, in reply to this suggestion,
tag arty feeling, whether by writing, by word of mouth, or by
at ated, that h- would deliver in the paper to-mor-
gesture, which may displease my, of the Gestleasen arson-
Med is St. Stephen's Chapel, I row, and then give notice of the day on which he
.. Tiles, a,,,,ein as to the kind of punishmest ; why should would move for its discussior.
they stop at Masi persons ha jail? If they can amid whom Lend FOLEiTDEE complained of the hardship of
they please to jail ;if they ewe keep the person so seat in thus . • ,• • _ . member ,
tearing. for an unlimited time, • of
jail as lung as they please ; if they can set their prisoners
free at the end of the Seat hoar. or keep them conficied for that House under the obloquy of having committed
seven years . if, in short, their *etiolate Will is to have the a high insult, and gross breach of priesiege. It ap-
force of Law, what rersrity can you have, that they will stop poured to him rather hovel, to call on the House to
at fewornoiment 'lf they have the absolute power of lispe :t in. down under this insult. It was contrary to all
sorting mil releasing, why may they not /Cad their prisoners
to York jail, as well as to a jail in London' Why nut eon. P"cedent•
fine mos in solitary cells, or load them with chinas aud bolts i Graces' G ASCOT MI spoke to order. He con-
They have sal goat these lengths yet; but what is there to erived all discussion on a notice to be irregular.
restrais them, if they are to be the sole judges of the es- The SPRAIIRR said, the Hon. General was
toot of their own powers, and if they are to exercise thews perfectly right, on ordinary occasiotis ; but,
or the
powers without any tuutronl, sod ireihnot leering the par-
uestiou of breach of pi irilege. the House would
•
um wham they choose to patsy, any mode a appeal, ~,,7 q
rather colistalt together than debate what was pro •
mom of redress'
" That a er such as this should exist in any country, it per to be done. Whether they should go on nowr
is kmeatakle to he obliged to believe; Mt :hat at sbuold be or hereafter, rested solely with the Hon. Member
sulfered to (Mat, aud that its existence should i.c openly, who brought the matter forward.
men and boastfully, mabuse owed, in a country thief leery ,..,,•,
has bees its free conatitutios of government, is cornet bag
tLe t-H 4 SCCL I.oi of the EXCHEQUER observed.
too nicontrano to be believed, if the proof were not Wane that the Hon. Member might come dowel to the
our eyes. Had the least doubt rang ewe my mind of the }Fuse, wish a strong tinproesteht of the necessity of
ilkplity of the prof eethop is the present rase, it would taking some st-p, but not knowing whether the
have bees altogether removed by the ..... rs given to the re-
Hon.
faience: Made Imp use to the Great Lemma:its of our Law, &armlet would be present, might not be pre-
and
to the Lass themselves. The Argemeet, by which I pied to proceed to the discussion of so grave aud
endeavoured to your ince the Gentlemen a the Home of I itoportaust a charge.
Conallialse, that their acts, if/ the :sae of Me Junes, were it- ll,hr. W. W y ass agreed, that the cho.cc of tits
legolv I shall "° lay before your is a more fall I'l alaw-cli. time of proceeding tested with the Hon. Member
ed •ay than it could prevahly be done by the Patitasnetitery
ra; aad, in al..aitg this, I shall do all that new re- who gore the notice ; but sump tied, list it would
Reperte
mains in my prism towards tie correetiou of this, as I deem be more convenient to have the master brought fur.
it, most eiaorat.ias Atoms. of Power, and most clangers*. of ward before t•oey began to (locos* the other Ml-
all liaCruaehtileate upon the Rights aud Liberties of Lag- 1 portant quesiton on their orders, than to-morrow,
totinieu —f remain, Gentlemen, when they would be in the middle of that discus-
.. Yos, most obedient baroble Sai vine,
,a Piccadilly, starch 94. lila. tRANCIS istatDErr.- won. Vol hav•ng had tone to reed the letter com-
plained of, he did not wish to come now to a del t-
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7 leis subject, Sir rraiscie considers., nod so mast *Very awe sires on ir, but thou•zht that the mere formal coup,
who femme. the Constitution ~e hia cnent", and the t.,, i plaint might be made to-night.
dam of his Yonder) roes, romoder, as Messiest important to- Mr. LeTHllathrit, as he wished the charge to be
pee discerned is or out of Parliament since the ktevoletion. formal, edhereol to his emelt-or.
Far whom dewy that if sip the highest 'narwhal, were oft
the poem M. to &MINI alingtarily whomsoever be thought THE SCHELDT LIPTIOITIO24.
proper, there •011111 Wes be as and of all other right. and Lord Poacontsvaa rose to call the attention' of
iiassiawities" The Imosoirable sed patriotic Baronet then offers the lit.o.e to ein -e • .
eimielkoe Warta es the Inquiry
of I."
too the eat .4,4 c„),..„ to o the Expedition to the Scheldt. fk woe aware
reiies: Lou:: itse.e. it,
shato hat licirowe.:aenhastlieci.inivniyiso: 114seappot.t .
timid powers, La relnalliiii.g to prison a pinata neat one or its of Hat difficulty of a e task lie had uodertakert, and
own Newby.. Ti,. aresioest is supported by farts, sad Orimed the indal,:enee of 11. e Howse. if in going
the opinions of smile of the ablest 1057..• 01164 realm, bat, through vetch a m ts• of materiala„ he should appear
above all, by the eery ultra wripte of Magus Chants. He ,
trolialai sir prolix. Arduous as lha task was, sorry
chews the nature of sad elucidates the reason edam prune
was be to say it was in painful as it ails ardorm..
;egos of Pe-lisocut, as declared by the Howse of Lords, Nay
ama, 1694, atilt respect to the extent of Ibe proilegr. of the Its an cap...taloa wis.ch ovally estessislied Europe.
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Britain. Beim", however, he went from the 1
monstrous birth, to the horrible catastrophe,
be willed to *Mice the evidence given by Sir
Davol Humbs. en a point not strictly connect-
ed with toe other matte's he would have to ley
in order before them. ltappeared from his teati-
'pony, that, oa, the Jalh of lerch, he woe consult-
ed. iu the Cabinet,4o tt a plan, totally distinct from
the Expedoson then uuder consideration." This
was not distinct io its object, whatever it might
here been its its plan, of which they had no infor-
motion ; and the opinions delivered thereon ought
to have caused Ministers to pease before they cuter-
ed on an enterprise so extrusive and so dangerous,
as that they had attempted. This original plan was
to have been carried into effect with 15,000 men.
Had it succeeded, then, indeed, there would have
been enure for triumph, bat it was not attempted,
and the reason was, that, two months alter the retaru
of rrer army front Spain. welted not in this country
a itisaosalile form of 15,000 tarn. On the mine
'object, and to the same effect, was the evidesice
of General Calvert. who said. that, (ruin the return
of the army of Corunna, .4 a very small portion of
it was fit fete service." Let the blouse compare
these facts, (which, but for this inquiry, they would
eleven Wore been acquainted with) with the state-
ments made to them, and the returns laid before
them Low Session, add they a ould sec that tin y
were only made to delude them and the country.—
They would see that it was not exaggerated when
It was stated. that the army sent to Spain *was -
ed ; for. notwithstanding all the endeavours of :di-
nisteis to conceal the truth, it was now evideut.
that though 23,000 men left Commie iu January,
in Match there were not in the kingdom 13,000 tit
for foreign service. Having thus noticed this pre-
hasinary muter, he would proceed to what might be
considered as the first overt act connected with the
Expedition nutter their cousidersition. This was a
letter from Lord Castlereagh to Sir Datid Dust-
des, to consult hint, as a professional man. on the
soli:et of the Expedition. He aparoved of this con-
sulting with men of profession il kisowledge,but when
hr trod the opidoms of there professional men, and
looked et the use made of them by blicisters, his
sarpririe was unl•ounded, that they shduld ever here
thought it necessary to consult at all, rod then act
in such direct-Opposition to the *deice given. lii
this letter, I.orrt Cutlers agh mentioned, list the
plan was an old our, nia.ured by )ears.—He
next communicated the intelligence received
frau" the North of France, from which he conclud-
ed, that the enemy was never more assailable. and
that. if the present season was ilutr,rad to PIT, there
would sever hereafter he 'initialed po good an op-
portemity of sendiag so large a force from this coun-
try apinat so small a force of the enemy. This
letter, of the a9sh May, was auswerad on the 3d
June, by Sir David Donde% who, very properly,
faring to rely ou his sole judgment io so weighty a
matter, bad, iu the intermediate. tune, Liken the
ierenentis of lour other officers. He would state what
opinions were, and it would be seen. that
though Ministers used the formality of asking ad-
vice. they had previously resolved, and 'veal as if
such advice lied never been given. The Command-
er-in-Chief. referring to the last paragroph in Lord
Castlereagh's letter, delivers it as hi. opinion, that
the Itritirli forces should not be ,inked ott so desul-
tory an art,,niment, as that an expedition could
auppos,ll to here the probability o! a smaller
force being opposed to them. He recommends
it to the Noble Lord to consider and ascertain
erecurately the .mount of the eneinj's force, and
not to plunge into an enterprize of such inegni-
bide, on Incite comparative speenletion, without
knowledge of the real state of the case. Sir I).
Doodles then proceeds to speak of the tore mode-,
the old one (of which, clot to surprise the House, it
was sufficient to say, that it was, if possible. snore
extravagant than that which was acted on), and the
new, and in both sniggests that the relative strength
of the Expedainnand enemy ought to be made snore
• matter of calculation tl.ass of seppoeitien. Hr
goes on to Calera. the Noble Lord, that Antwerp,
with the situation of which he was personally ac-
'insisted. was a great town, and fortified so as to be
capable of sustaining a regular siege. lie then re-
comoserls, its coocitemo, what ought to have load
great weight with the Noble Lord, and damped his
esithusitetic spitit, before he ventured to send nut
the last force he had been able to create. sir, in all
possibility, twit would be able to invade, for his
rash expeditions. Sir D. Dundas teld him. that
this was a service of great risk, and that the safe
return of die army. even if they were stieceesful„
must be very precarious, from the resembling of
forces by the rueoly, from all points, to intercept
them ita again descending the river. Had these
opinions heen weighed by Minirters, they would
have found it more necessary to consider what
hates the enemy vivid collect, than what was their
strength ie the differetit forts upon the Scheldt.
Tue next evidence he bad to consider, was that of
(,erseral Calvert. to whom the Commauder•in-
Chief ale lied for his opinion on the subject. He.
General Calvert. was pn'o'ied of what many
might think an indispensable prelonasary to giving
advice, but which lle.isters throogboot ,wined to
deem altogether meter eoery, local knowiedge. He
informed them that Antwerp Ives formidable, and
that, on the appearanee of the Expedition Wall-
Acres, the enemy would collect all their fereee,
and be ambled to concentrate them about that point
with greet facility. by intone of the est merons canals
which intersected the country. lie further stated.
that as there was no dere on which to ertitnate the
strength of the enemy, he could not devote on that
point. This was the "million of (Semen! Calvert.
lon net of the Noble Lord, so bent upon eending
his Faperlition, that he could venture to dr cide on
dais it'll less, lie now came to an opinion, which,
if It'.nistere read, he was astonished it did not induce
them to prime- bersve they risked so much. This
w.a ,i•••
wayi..sou of Colonel Gordon. Colonel Gor-
don to eompare the extent of the means
an hash as a primary eject nod I•ol.e!ftere•
hen, hie was oat to be satt.ti•ii it oh a Colje:-
tate, that the regular fames of the 'meaty were
wohdraern. Ministers, io their defence, it might
4.• *..t• 1)044..1. would say. that they had inforinatiou
paw,' ier to Litt.* ; but the House had all thee. idem e
bet., them, Itol it ass imiKrallibla to give credit
to this. opr."- I. iou to the 'Torino. of so many mi.
fit.). ,nee, elf :n-r!•.ts cat on to state, tioit
tar len.•...tott of huoth • P.n.-I:11"i w:t.
hie, sod of 'odor! anal Wolcherets gle•sfithle. In
Nlinisters had clever read these pipets,

as they appeared sever to Lave thought of acting
upon their content.. 'I hey paid no attentiou to the
excellent advice they reetivcd. They utterly
disregarded the impressive conclusion of Colonel
Utersilea's opiuion, that even o the most eligible of
these plans would he a most desperate our ; and
that it would be attended with the utmost risk,
both to the army and navy employed upon ii."—
The twat opinion was, drat of General Brow nrigc.
It nearly concurred with the others, and stated only
this distinct idea, that Antwerp and the enesny's
nett might be taken by the British fleet going up
the Scheldt, with ten thousand men, to land mew.
sionally, as circumstances require 1. This, Lord
Dorchester considered as ee most extravagant notion ;
arid, ehoughGen. Brownrigg's opinion was not so de-
cidedly adverse, as those of the other military raven
consulted, yet et was not very encouraging to Minis-
ters to undertake the F:xpeilition. he last of the
four consulted by thcConoi.wider-in-Cliiefovas Gen.
Hope ; and here he begged the }louse to observe,
that all these profesesiossal persons concurred in re-
presenting the attack on Antwerp, and the destruc-
tion of the arsenals, as the great and main objects
of the Expedition : they never spoke of IVulclieten
us a principal object at all. General Hope, looking
at this, was of opinion, that the attempt on Antwerp
could not be made wit hoot great risk to the force
einplco eft, and ni adequate chance of sue as.
Ilere, ih,'n, were tine military opsisians, foor of
them decidedly adverse, nod the fifth Lot favour-
able to the Expedition. :Ministers having bot-
tomed on the=e, then thought it necessary to have
a few Filirai opinions al-o, to strengthen them
itt their resolution. Sir llome Popham was
sent hat from Portsmouth, aid, after a vooversa-
bon with Lord Mulgrave on she Pubjeet, thought
fit to put les upaden into writing, and de.
liver it on the I Nth Julie. lii this memoranda the
plan was similar to that which 'WAS afterwards
adopted, but it coutatued two points as necessary to
conduce to the success of the undertaking. These
were, lit, to embark the troops in men of war, and
as few horses as possible ; for success depending en-
tirely on the speed and rapidity of their movements,
it was requisite to avoid se siding numerous trans-
ports, or a great body of houses, either of which
would clog mud retard the progress of the Expedi-.
tion. And, secondly, to hasten their departure, as
the season %sus last advancing, which wouleliuhl to
their difficult ire dreadfully, by giving themthe sea-
son and elements to contend agamet. To this it
was acceded by Lord Malcrave, and unless they
could sail by the tGth or 27th ofJune, that it would
he impolitic tee make the attempt at all. Ministers,
however, treated this naval just in the fame orgy as
they treated the five military opinions. By the
orders Irons the Admiralty, see far from se ndmo only
ships of war ; ships of war werenot.to proceed up
the river, except is vote of absolute vectssity ; and
for the sake of celerity, instead of iterating as few,
they sent as many horses as they could. On the
19th Jahr, Sir It. &radian, who was to command
the naval part of the Expedition, was cosoulted.
He pouted out the difficulty of getting up the
river Scheldt, and the danger to which the force
would be ewe:med, of being cut off, ole its return
down the river, by them tid strength of the Mien-
hi.6lllts tint regulars collected by tier enemy. 11',1-
chervil, he thought, might be takeu ; Lot the
Ilouse would, hr trusted, sliver by their vole,
that they did not cowider this olsj rt as sufficient
to justify : o great an Expedition. In the interviews
Sir It. Strachars had with I ord Mulgrave. that No-
ble Lunt seemed to tie as s entente of success as
the other Noble Lord who plaiii.c.lthe eisterpri.e,
and to pay as little regard tie the she,.gers and
(llness attendant Impose it. Ile can Sir
It. Strait:Lam and ustored hint that all ootelsl do
very well ; 1111 11..lifilleCe which the gallant Admiral
had too much re aeon, on his side, to doubt. tapiel
Poreliester now came to consider the plan ; nod
here, he confessed, he had a considerable difficulty
to suresionto ; fur, having to reason on what ass
merely ideal, nod server carried into execution, he
found it no easy matter to comprehend what the
plan really east. Indeed it was n it one, it was
many plans. The Noble Lord (Castlereagh) had
lea plan; the Admiralty had their plan, and
that spiwared to liiin the stoat wive one, for
they resole eel to take goad care of their own fleet,
whatever became of the enemy's. The Right
liouourable the Chancellor of the Exchequer lead
his plan to effect a great diversion for the military
powers then engaged in Europe, at tiny point (.eo
matter whether difficult or dangerous) where the
fewest dollars were wanted. Brit Minister,, with
all their rage fur expeditiews, seemed to have forgot-
ten Cast bullion wus saseaa.any, and perhaps more
in cumin them into execution, than either pow.
der or shot. The Right Hou. Secretary (Mr.
Canning) might cuss have his plan, though they
were yet to learn from lion what it was. I'rrhapa
'LOCI' was the state of his mind at that period, that
hr did not deers it necessary to divulge it to his
colleague The naval Commander had two or
three plans, and the military Commauder in-Chief
had 11011 r. (A laugh.) As far, however, as he
e opal c Alert from a view of the whole, the central
underst sodwg ,ee.m,4l to he, that the left wing of
the army a!toultl attack Walcheren--1 party should
take possession of Caiheariel, anti the m sin
body, to the number of twenty-two thousand
men, proceeded up the river to Said het, oectspying
Bevelawl in their progress. This was what was
called the second, ulterior, simultaneous, subs.,
quAit operatow.—(Bear! hear!)—ln the calm-
Intion• on this 'Usage %west ion, it was always ex-
pected that the main-body should reach Sotorliel in
four days. What Rewinds had 3linieters for this
conclusion ? Sir Richard Striae,' said it was pos-
sible to accomplish it with wind and wewher inva-
riably f.vourahle. Vet, with all the pretentious
taken, roma of our vessels were stranded, mid lay
a con-iderable time in that situation. Sir Ric hard
Steadiest also considered the takiror possession of
Bevebutil.as indispensable. But before he went into
doled on this part of h:s subject, he wished to
call the attention of the Hato, to LAM Castle-
resah's letter to the Commander-ill-Chief, of the
t?:341 of „lime. This contained the proiee of the
Eat:edit' ; stilted that it was His bisisty's plea-
sure that it s'muM pr. creti, end She aature of the
etatimuoicutiors made to Lord Chatham en the
From a vie w 44 this letter, it would ap-
rr-air that Lewd (Thst'eren4ls haul out-run ILL Ma-
jetty's sairc•-oss; fur. ors she lbeh, lie had ordered
the Coniasander-in Clilr I to have all the dis-
posable fs me in the kingdoms reedy for eta-

barkatioo.—Said tke Noble Logi, in his pro-
jef, notwithetandiug the getter % effect of the
Expedition is to be on the war in Europe, it
is to be a principal object to destroy the finial-
cations of Antwerp, the dock-yard, awl *termite,
arid, if practicable, to interi opt the navigation of
the Scheldt. He doubted mach, slier all, that
there were in existence such arsenals as those at
Dorsnoef, here directed to be d. stroy ed. As for
the at powerful diversion in favour of our allies,"
how gould the Noble Lord expect it to be so. *lien
he knew, that, after thetoup-de-maix, our force, for
want of foreign coin, ion-t return immediately ?
The Noble Lord continued to pr, ject. that, in case
the enemy's ships idled' sliwilil tie carried above
Antwerp, and put in a situation where we could
not get possession of them. Anil here, for tke
first time, the Noble Lord seemed to consider
that any difficulty might arise. But lie over-
looked rather than thought of ov.:rcomiti4 diffi-
culties ; and though hr could not abut hut eyes•to
its beteg in the power of Vie enemy to remove the.
India (Object out of our reach, lie was still defer.
mined on undertaking the enterprize. Sir Home
Puplsain was of °trillium that the armament might
pass up to Sin vliet, provided one bank of the liver
was iii our possession, and this, he bad to I
the house, was the general opinion. It was re-
lust keble, also. that Sir Richard Keats, one of
the most experienced otfieeis in the sery er. had
never thee consulted. Ile !led expressed his
hopes that the Experfoion might not hr entang-
led in the siege of Flashing, but proceed to the
ulterior ohjeeta, and take Baths, us nn indispensable
step to their further progress. This was another
naval °pinto'', that, without great rapidity, success
was very imprubahle, with this addition, that a floc
tills of 80 gun-boats was necessary. In all the
calculations of our sanguine Alinisters, four days.
the hardy possible nine, were reckoned on as suf-
ficient to enable the armament from Deal, to reach
Santvliet. Noire of the difficulties, delays, or dis-
appointments, so common in operations depending
on so many and such various circumstances, ever
entered into their computation. They were to
have every thing favourable; the wind, the wea-
ther, the roues, of which they kra w nothing, were
all to be the finest imoginable, and the whole was
to go on like a time-piece; without friction. But
in the very outset, one of four hundred ships
Falling • little behind, caused some friction and
delay ; this was one of the ships which was necessary
to curry out the flotilla, to be armed in the mouth
of the Scheldt. He new Caine to the intelligence
given to the Secret Committee ; a person whom
Ministers represented as one well acquainted with
the Scheldt, and worthy of the firmest reliance being
placed on his statements, described the Slough
Passage as diflieult for even small single Ye-sels, and
declared it to be IteCeiNify to have a pilot in every
hue-of-battle ship anal frigate. I low were our fleet
provided? They hail only one pilot; and Sir It. Sire-
chaii declared that he could not get one Loll enough
to venture to carry his ship sae up this danger-
ous and difficult navigation. 'lt was true the river
might be leinyerl, but this would occupy a week,
and preclude all possibility of a rapid advance.—lt
also appeared. from the testimony of this perscu,
flint it was rally possible to pro( evil to Bathe with
the wind in two points of the compass, betwera
the South mid We-t. and 'irritator with a avant
wird io other two prii,es. But Ministeta did
not tare fur thew" diflo allies. owl proeeerted.
as if they could have relays of favourrlrle
wi-als at every corn. r of *boa %sooting liver. The
time itecessery to 'eke possessiou of South Berg-
lund, and to 'educe ii ithz, they left eutirely net of
their eousideration. The -needy surrender of both
these pisses was very mitspecita, amid cumuli never
have been uninitiated iu uny prellllllllllty stew taken
by :Minister+, if tiny 41441 iiike tiny preli ttt tt ary
general view of fie- matter. Briliz in partieular
wire capable of a resistance sufliciew ly long to have
disconcerted their whole plan of operations. Lilly
and Liefki Hillock were also by inniny deemed itidis-
pensahle awl capable of similar yeomanry. To inert
the flotilla in the river—to take :nese...ton of Ber,..
land—to reduce Bailie—and to have wind and wee-
titer far all re-easi tttt presented to our Ministers
neither diffieuliy tier subject for deliberation. Ge-
overt Brovirmigg, wlia seenenl somewhat to parti.
einem in the sanguine expect:4mm of Lord Castle.
reugh, in• his rendes:cc. stated, that, if the army
could have landed on 31. t August, they might
have been successful. , Being furth• r examined,
he said. that, taking possession of Carbsoil would
be hut the work of an hour. lie. like Mtniatera,
forgot that the north-westerit wind, an unruly spirit,
must blow before they could accomplish their ob-
ject. ite, Gen. Brownrigz, imputed the failure to
the unfortunate tiereseity which obliged the arma-
ment to assemble in the Room pot. Lirrei Castleresigh.
when exastiiised, would sot fix dates so nearly as
General Brownrigg ; but lie was of opinion. that.
under favourable circumstances, the engem:era
might arrive rally. and be sucesssful. On being
questioned as to the furce and dispositions or the
hia answer was, that he could not presume
to judge what might lie the movements of the
enemy. As a -51ein'ier of that House he to gin
hare declined answering this miestiou, when
pressed int hint, but stove he libel answered it,
he stood condemned nut of his own mouth.—
What ! was he not to es!culitte on the re-i-t.
ate:* likely to lie 44r-red—to niceties:l, as fir
as poasible, the movements likely, or in the
power of the esieury its be mite? Was he to send
troop., not only to learn whether they could trio-
ere t. bat whether they could ever return ? This
sirs it point he ought most decidedly to have a-- rr-
tamer,. as i be. fate of the army, of the Est edillerit,
anal eventually of the kingdom, whose last cud
great. tit hopes a ere thus embarked, ',speeded upon
It. The Nrible Lord who commanded the Expe-
dition was cep ally wary tint to ennunu
to precise dates in his answers, wia the
lity of oecomphiltimg the ulterior objects 4,1 the
Exp. d-iion; though le had no hesitation
thrOwii.g sarcasms on his c.. 11, ague.. Ile was
•warr of the difficulty ; he kilo,v that a eyes! until
was derr.aWy 10 go up the Sclie!ilt, anti Molt a
Weill wind Wrote x surf ,111(11 rrt.•lentl 'nail nag
almost iiiiieacticaltle. 0.1 as
to the retelling S in fur
was prs4lote, bait IMO IWO ; 11.1 i ILA? I ilY!I
npinin•.s hash SWISII.II 41 il's ill/1110s. Vl ti.it ..s. it

that these naval oriht.ie.4 fh,•iht
that she unkeenea navhgatieus of a ricer I 14•• the
Scheld,,aas lifficult! I/ • (I.oid

Lot 1::i;

Anther examined npon the time thee
Art, appeared quote n.r.al s t.
if it c iota have been el'. eh, I ne t..ic6
August. 09 Inc contrary, Captain Wit!
General supposed t!4 the •
might unit must lie effected on the 4 h, io Older
rust to the a.tay, a. suet latilutelycrrr>•arc,to qt, 4
uu Antwerp, ou ihe 11011 i. These were
eontradictions and incinisistencies, and,.
in general, from this clashing of "pub's,,,
the culeul..tion of being aide to re.ich Ssitt4,•t
in four days, WAS mot probable, ~,,,i that
male without the slightest allowance fur &he,
accidents, weather or dilliculties, And with a tit,
forgetfulness of sweltininairy
It was wit till after the fiat e.f the iist.g.n.4
that the E•peilition 'night he Imeieesoril,
jesty's t!,ititAht it expedient in
into the le' of its sit. ce..,
contet the ithotricies in their
their oj. Ct. Ile
litre the undertaking to hotline; Lilt „„
the architect, wet., is said to hive Ittlt,t I, ..-i,.1nl
floor, 6-fore he re, o In tea the in.'. 23.itV .•I

t.nr t

w stow-caw.. If the iusttuttions wr,e t
lb. y would be tumid itteo,wi4trwt w th

the piece, mid those of one iiis:•er et b..rs once anti
those of another. The in-tette,insi, eiti,„ to tit
Margin* of I Nutley Weft in the tri.llll of what a
eltrrerards performed. It ought, iu tie drat
stance, have heels aeccrieined, that
t..kiog of Cadiaud war an indopeuiable pin of ary
projict fur the purpose of angel:Mg Atito.-rp.
Capt. Hatichett, of the Runes, bud iitfurtatil thew,
that while the pollens from Flushing elms
hint, the halls of Cadsand went through km.—
After etaline si much upon the reasons or ju,tly
estimating the propriety of the enterprise, he ihoell
continent upon what he eauld term no othevtlint
the romance of this Expedition. Ile could dean.
urinate the intended attack eipan Antwerp lie to
other appellation than that of lib:it:tiny. It w:isn.
miler to that of a vistmary knight-errant open
windmills, related by a fain ma and ingeolom A-
dige of romantic adventursa. General Don spoke
of the fear and perturbation which wired the Wig.
latuots, when they heart' of the English
non-; but certainly it could not be twain that ant
alann was raised among the milliasy, or tho.e
were to defend the place ; end, therefore, the terror
imputed was to be considered no ether poe-
Iflity than that of the lashes. There Premed
to have been great ignorance of the teal slier and
population of Antwerp, at the time when this
Expedition was planned, rind afttrawils set •all,
tor it had been eloWildetid, at One tWr.l:5ll, 11".
tog lost its ancient impetlattom and the !woe
orer;ro,sit wish gras-, and nearing the napect of
desolation. The opomotia ,raid by Mira-t rs at
that tame were very conteuly to the stein
lion of the Wirer. Ala 111,•:., if ee w,r, to 4.4;
or mime of attack, how was the town to hr tak-tt
Win, It was slated, that' the attack was to be IPaiit'
1111011 all Slur weak 1,01•1110. (A /leek., A Aollor
coniitleretina was, how were tiny :o get clear of
Fort Lilo? 0 ! that plate was to lie taken by meats
of sues and mortars. As to the iimudatiun, tha
was never thought of. nor was it ever 'opined Ines..
Generil Browurigg was the only Oliver who con-
s driest the mode of attack likely to art
eked the number of guns :not arttlicry
tor the under:ski:4. Iftted, tha- kit a .p
might be taken I.) assault. 'Thus far ;woo ohd
the evalecce of Cent-J.41 Rtnertir•,47, Cul.e
was coot eery to that sit rout
moral +oil military officer. At the saner .
refetynce were 1111.1 in his examination
1 lame, they * mild perceive, f, ,
when a titivation was put, whether Of not Ants-cep
ould lie taken by buraliatdment ? To th-
Brow nrigg answer/46m it could not. ( Hear! Arco '1
Wiwi, Ibis answer wail compare d with ilia °lonia('
had pr..vionsly expresses!, pe gimps this was so u
fortunate question. Another digestion is
• jib ri apsort to the prob-bility of taking the, • -
loll,* its rase the attack were succestful, which
answers in a similar manlier. Hi. rustier at., ti".c
he found the shii.ping might. notwithstanding, a
removed higher up (min their situation at An:we:-
and thereby another object of the Esped.ti
%%mild have failed, for it was not 111:.ly they Will
have beet captured. It had been istitta 1/1" Innis
that the bombardment round have the ths
et, Ily ilitimitlAli•ig the people to
late. ‘Va, it yowiiide that a root popui..•
could he iiitimidat.d, suretiunded as flier to.
by the troops of lionapaite? Wo. it I keit- tii•t
any success could result Irani the attempt for
leis they were, es lie might tomptessed 016
the walls of Antwerp, and dewed the chance (1
egress. and vigorously bombarded in that aiteatia
it would I uve been :n vain to expect a Latour,'
inane. A creot deal hod also Bien s'ieged
the probability of taking Antwerp 'my a rorp •
mein, hot if the elate corresoontle I Ith pl
that appeared altogether impracticable. It Va`
;stated by the (s oetal. In adverting to tin: •

donee Lord Coodpreogh. It, •
hound, that. er he comniceett the sit:l464
found but the ottani condition of tnp
milted tnere was no probability t t
thinonode of otteirk. Rut th.n It ,• '• • i