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CHASE'S ItEIJEV 1311-L

Lnrd TonnenoTou moved the third reading of Chase's
Relief Bill. The Nubte Lord thought il nerras try to inform
the Horse why he took so active a part its this measure.
Being at Madras at the linseed tlw ?sillier of Messrs. Chase
and Co. lie was requested by the eve & of Iht Company
to be present at an arrangement of the &MINOR. and was on
the meeting of the creditors put into the Chair. He on
that occasion learned such pal irulars as induced him to en.
sertaiu• favourable opinion of the turf of these hankers.
He understood that the Nettle lord at the head of his Ms.
jesty's Government imagined that role of Ike chimers implied
some stigma on the Atrial...es or the Bi dish Gliveranwitt its
India, but this, he argued, could not be collected (rim the
clause, and in proof of this he entewel intuit review of she
circumstances of the loan made by Messrs Chase so the
Nabob of Arcot, by means of which the Britoih army was
then eitabled to take ilia field. The Act of Parliament by
which such 101111 s wrie in future prohibited had tint Won
prennutraisd in India for cited months until after the cap-
ture of Seringapatain, cons. yitently there was no 'reams that
Messrs. Chase shuttld nut he pet mined to be considered az
. retailers of spas Nabob. The Noble laird then shrw..l by
ference In circumstances of the campaozii that terini-
suto
d with the fall of the Mysore territory, 'Lit to this loan
might the successful rtsult of the oar be attributed. The
Government of India badeonntredat Oise Isms, mid it would
he very unfair now to torn round nos the lenders and icll
them 11,57 had on right to repajout lit. He thin noticed the
thirst readoi4 of the Bill.
The Duke of Weed.taterou slid not rise lo oppose the
Bill, hot lie was elisions that some alterations might be
111411 C in the preamble, which cmdnitird illeeetions nut
founded its fact. It smelted, that consent had been given
to this loan by the Govermw of ; but tins was ass in-
correct allegation.. The mode of expression used in the
Bill was not sn precise is' its iiittuie Na was consistent twilit
an Act of the Legislatine ; but indeprtitteut of this, there
was un evidence that this hoot had been teen 'roosts to any
Member of the Council of India. Hr therefore hoped dist
their Lordships, considering the merits of the case, would
consent to such alterat• as he allsouhl mopme. The No-
ble Duke then proposed certain verbal alterations, nut affects
lug the general object of the Bill.
The Fuel of LIVERPOOL opposed the Bill, which he
thought fusinArd on most pernicious principles, and could
'jot be jottinett 'ems on the grounds stated in the preamble.
One of the moat gamed principles un whirls it bid been the
intention of P3sliareteol lo carry on the government of India,
was to prohibit private persons from negorlating loans with
the Native Princes. Their IlAwhhlPl must have read the
'Kerb delivered in the HOOP! of Commons, on this subject,
by Mr. Bloke, which witsaftervisrila pablisloal in the shape
of a pamphlet, as 1 they may theatre collect the principle 011
which the law to that effect wa•enacted„ as a means t.• pie
vest the peculation which reed to by practised in ludia
was mow pernicious Row So soiree any individuals to come
before Parliatmat on ma allegation Boit loans hail knew coo.
traded ley i he connivance of Gowernmeat, and lima set mole
the provisions of law, which reqiiired the cons. iit of she
ycrionewt, not ky connivsuce, but under. au ittpc.its autho-
rity given iu writing.
The Put of LAVDEito.test did nut mean to advsooe sop

thing against the prorisinns of the Art of the attil of M.
King, and if the preseot Bill were its ally &pee opposed •
to that Act, the principle of which be very highly
esteemed, he eertaitily should not support it Ile was, how-
ever, induced to give the'peesetil Hill his ■nppn•t. from the
extreme hardship of the cow, for the ilfet of the 3firl of the
King bad not been promnisriterl in India until after the loan
in the contemplation of time present Rut land been contracted
by Messrs. Chase. Hr *hewed, by referring to the evidence
on this can, that the luau was human to some 11enthent of
•the Government, and Oboe' red •that she money thereby ob-
tained had found its way into the pocket, of•tbe East India
Company. On the lecoad reeding of dna Bill, when Conn
nil were h. and un it at the bar, a Noble ■nd Learned Lord
said to the COLUMN'', " Mr. Jackson, eau you say that this
money did not find its way into the pockets of your cheuts?"
but Mr. Jackson was perfectly silent.
The Earl of WV.ITMORLAND spoke shortly in favour of
the Bill, which, be said, did not give the ntioney to the
creditors of Mr•sn. Chase, but merely enabled them to go
before the erninabisiwssera nam4 peeve dine debt. •
The Duke of VI'LLLIRDTOII and the Eeriest L• 002111.
DMA anal Livengool. severally explained.
Earl Fowls jublifir4ilte conduct of time Government of
India with respect twOsis transacti . •
The LORD Cnogatlog spoke in favour of the Bill.
Alter a few word' from Load Livregoot., who said, that
for the ouoveniroce•of his Noble Friend he should not take
the seine of the Donn on this Bill, until the question for
the passing of the Bill, the amendments proposed is the pre.
amble by She Duke of wo.Liwarox were agreed 10, amid
the Bill was read the third time.

Ou the question "Shut this Bill du p...," the House di.
vided, when there appeared—
Contents 9l
Ntat.Contrais

Majority $
The Rill was therefore passed.
FOREIGN ENLISTMENT RILL.
_

On on; bar, we found
the Marquis of LANSDOWN complaining that the
Report of the Committee on this Bill had been
brought up. contrary to an under►tandiug that
amendruentv might be proposed on the considera-
tion of the Report. On the motion. therefore, of
the Noble Marquis, the Bill was ordered to be re-
committed.

On the re-commitment of the Bill, the Ear) of
aossi.vxobjected to the clause which constituted
it a crime in any individual to go abroad wills
the intent of eithating in a foreign service. Ewell
Custom-house officer, and other pgrsaiis mentioned
in the Bill, were ensble.l to detain ship., if any in-
dividual gate infornsei.m on oath. that there *as
a person on board who was proceeding abroad wail
intent so to enlist. This power was very liable to
be abused,- and might be attended with great in.
convenience in a enmrnercial country.
Earl BaTlitiast defended the provisions .of the
clause, and oboerveil, that it could lint be carried
tutu effect nod tue notation of eilltstateut was
proved. •
The Earl alt -X 40•41.61 ,04,forraer ob.
jection. • - -
The Earl of Vent :pant, said he had never heard
an argument of guy weight against thie Bill, and that
the only sound objection which could be made to
at wits the difficulty. or rather the impracticability of
carrying it into effect. It was necessary. therefore,
to provrle every possible means fur giving•the Act
validly.
The Marquis of LANSDOWN said, it was indeed
necessary to (mine such meows as would give effect t•
the law, hut care ought to be taken that those
powers should not be of a nature which would vex
the subject in the performance of their lawful bu-,

The Earl of LIVERPOOL maintained, that before
the law could be carried into effect, an overt act
ought to be proved, manifesting the criminal intent.
Lord HOLLAND said, that the present Bill went
beyond the provisions of the former Act, fur under
the former measure an overt act was necessary, but
by the present Bill the mere circumstance of going
abroad was sufficient to establish a criminal intent.

The Earl of CAamaavom said, that this was the
fir►t time in which the criminal law of Wm country
had undertaken to confound the parsing intention
of the mind with the commiwion of a criminal ucts

Earl BATHURST repeated his former observations„
and said, no punishment could be ittflicted on an
individual, unless such evidence was advanced so
would prove the criminal intention.
The Eatl of Rossurs said, that undoubtedly a
Jury would require evidence of the criminal in-
tent ; but let the House c-insider whet inconve-
nience may result to the public if any ship might
be detained, whets on the point of sailing, by the
ath of any individual, tmwever ohocure.—(tieize.)
—Such a clause way liable to abuse, and was not
necessary even fur the objects of the Noble Lord*
opposite.
After some further observations from Lord Hot.
LAND. the Eml of LIVERPOOL, and the Earl of
CANNARYON, the clause was ordered to remain
part of the Hifi.
Lard HOLLAND objected to the clause which
love to officers of Ilse. Cuaotus and other civil mt.
thorsties the power of detatoing ships on the oath
of an informer, shot there was any person on
board Ime.ng the itt.tol ion of enlisting in • foreign
nervier—and proposed, as an amenehuent, that
certoio wends In the douse giving that power be
omitted.

Shia question the House divided, when there
appeared—
For She easier ..
Apiust it 7
9
The clause Was then ordered to stood part of the
Bill.

The I elitists were agreed to, the Report
was brotight up, and the Bill ordered to be read
theslarti time tomorrow.

REYEREAL OF THE ACT OP ATTAINDER AGAINST
THE CHILDREN OF THE LATE.LOND EDWARD
kTIZGEKALti.
'Dor lE+l,l ut LlynisPoot, sow. he said. twit peesiluir
pleasure. to preseut iu the House. ois ale t On 44.14 e
Crown. so net of erace I.
,reverse the A e. of Ai-
t or Il.e lsrr 11„orti Efitratal Fitjg r&d (tAtigr)
—by which the blood •C hi. two etwlllrrosi lrialword
Fos Fitzgerald, slid Louise il.iros Firsigessid. has
*sir getrupted, our/ to restore these sipareeest sod

what he considered she real character of Act of
Attainder, and he turned from it with • pleasure
Mad satisfaction, tueidmire the act of grace and hens,"
volenee which emanated from the Crown. He worded
only bay, that though he differed from hit Noble
Lord (Liverpool) on various occasions in public life,
those fair causes of political disagreement cool.)
never tend to diminish the personal attschineni, or
to interrupt the strong feeliogs of private regard he
entertained fur hint. Tint Noble person could do
nothing snore congenial to his (Lord Holland's) lid.
logs, nor, lie would be bold to say, more gratifying
to the liberal feelioga of t be country, than the measure
which he now 'proposed for carrying into effect the
humane intentions of his Royal Highness. lie
begged that the Noble Lord, both on public and
on private grounds, would receive his heartfelt
thanks. It was the wisdom of a I,enetitent pulley
that recommended a measure which shelved it, nit
Royal Highness the feelings of a kiod.heartecl.
and generous man,—((Dear, heir.)
'Clin Bill wt.s then read the first note, anti ordered
to be read a second time to-morrow.
BARNSTAPLE ELECrIoN.
-The Order of the Dry &sing mid for the rzaminat:o• of
witnesses 011 the Barnstaple Eh etion 811, cnntssel awl
witn were called in, when Thorns' Copnrr, Charles Cor-
nish, Thomas Taldrew. and esptain Lauren. e, wale ears
wilted, and the further examination of wittiessea4aa pool,
lamed I. Friary next.
The Hoare adjourned at Ralf•past Teti u'Ctotk.
HOUSE OP COMMONS, WICMIESDAT, Jpmr 30.

The SaTAßtrt look the Chair at a frw minutes after dm.
o'clock.

SIESSAGE FROW THE LORD.
WEST MIDI)LLSEX WATEIt-Vi'Oltlir RILL.
Nte,iprogesii t's• m the Lord.' artplai.i!ed tlrr H IWO
their Lnrdal.iln hail _reed to the cel4•4,4si 3.1.1 LIU
an I he Portuguese Tr. at y Bill, nil hots I aril. witto. 151., net 4
to the West Aliddles.a ‘Vater.Worka 11, ang.Se.taia
•MCIIII6II tliN, to W biCh Obeli' LW tighilti 11%.441re1l tie0011"1-
ream.- of the Ci.minues.
Mr. M. A Tavtoit said, that the last.oarai;oned pu,
passed, al he had no igitially fiattie.l it. would. he 1.4 sirs!
reason to believe, have been yr...dome.. a the hi 4=
and would have here yet...twit milli the app
by the polilir at large. Thy anti:whin sits. lit,ireser, wlwith
the oth.r Ilituae had thought prosier In wino, iirsigoyed, it
*great uiramtre, the olti,ei le- in •tea, and be could .
uot consent to so material nu Jiirraii.m. If the
.pohlke hex
rot a plentiful supply of water, b:dh in case., of lire era er •
all other ocra.iusis, it sae slut his fault. He had eudreansee-
eil iv r. eider the 801 l as perfect as pussiiile,..liot his 'teas
karmic i.r, si defeated by the anteu.thematy. he Aruba re,*
frove-.“ Ural dregs be taken into erniefivretiois VIA dir
three MOH I IL"
The What lOU SAP agreed 10, and tbe Sat .l 1 #ll. 111111,1111,e
Jost.
BASAISTAPJ-E 114.1.. •
Mesariageis trona toe' Lo. atrontiateer, oho* ISO'
of rin,.::::...f.14.4.11"......011111111.„.11K.;
obibefek*iir.
Upper House, iv give eater/we aebaiaVe IMP
PretSen.
POUND of the CrarettaNggi err

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tuLfortuo,tte persons to the full ;0 ...-41-los • f li. t . 411
subj.-etc, Fie ',Auld not, be said, outer too :he
reasons which Induced the Irish It.vlisasent In i as. kt
that Act, which it was the graciwtts wish of his
Royal HsAiiess to rt. vcr.r ; et •retriior b' obvious
• to their 11.oril.hia, that it woulipe painful. awl I
indeed unnecessary. to enter tote. a •yet. mita of
those fe•11../14. lie would wieret, piratic of the
k •
preamble of the Bill he was WOOrebuut so propose. i
In the first place, the nutty-Mull gterf (the late . I
Lord • E !ward Fitz4erald) was s'
,brought to
s
trial, *nil the charges brought ' t inta were
'lever judicially inquired tote. moll., of course he
was never judicial y convicted. lit theeneat place lie i •
kid to state, that the Art of AttaiWiler had heels
palmed by the P..rliament of Ireland root« toniedis
after the decease of the late Lord *hr. .Filegerahl.
.
These reasons would hove some Irrietilt Wane their
Lordsliips--lie would urge souther* mow like•iy to
influence their feelings—he stolid before their Lords
skips 'he advocate of. those &photo, who have been
the tufferets in a case where. tin crime whatever woo
disputed to them. Onr of thole iudiVidwaht. Mr.
Edward Fox Fitzgerald, has bathe arms in die
service of his King and country. and Ns all occasions
distinguished himself fa a manner highly honours
able to his character a. a soldier and a giotlestume
The object of the Bill which he bad now the pleas .
lute 'u propose, was so take away the distdolittes • t '
a...
imposed on them by the Act of Attainder. Tails
act of grace wee gratifying to the' feelings of his
Royal Highness the Prince Regent' As li-ing the
iiistrunient of proposing it to their Lsodelsipa, he
(Lord Liverpool) felt unaffected satisf out', and
he was confident that it wnu!d he no less pleasing
to their Lordships to mitigate the sesesily of a.
law passed hi unhappy times, sod to aff•id relief
to those utioffetorlitig trod itinoceht iudividtoilit.
14, (1•
The Duke of WLLI.INGTON sill, that ais 34r, FilxFit:.
gerald bad served under his comment!, he could not
let this opportunity pass without • * insinsl"r"")' t
to his character. He had, my '• • ::- • -• • . ins rho 1. i
ducted himself as is brave itid: .
~.. ! LT:.eoldier. il
and a highly 116110111%iille MOO. ':1 Aliitlrti . .
Lord HOLLAND raid, thooallt t ,
.. usual to
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address their Lerded.ips on the ',,,,,.„',it,iftitg org
Bell, yet lie could not repress 417'' g...etoe of
gratitude lie felt fur this Indy I~4' • ' tart of hes ii
1t.,y41 Highness the Priiier itritiWfrkar•l•—•
a
He was at a loss in exiesa liie..4 ". tun at the
statement cf the Noble Eat 9410,#11.:.• -.lllid Of dal
fl4lirritsg tostiineny of the Illistittiame.easterpoodeir
(Lord Wellington). lie (Lord II ),felt the lull forces
of I lie reasons mated, Tisesesarereather resume. taisth
of a public slid of a private nature, which ingestoosti
him. With regard to his private reasons it as out ..
necessary fur lints to trouble their I.erdsi* itit
recital of Ogee; with trop.4.ts9itil
lie would forbear to stifle thew there ..r.
considerations isidaced his Got to state t
tiro, because he had already 'avoid, . lnro.
in another placess.esecnodly, Itecause . .
nit's) of that Aft which their were a wr 0....
reverse, might out meet with the entire court*.
1 •
recce of all their Lordships; and he would considey .
i
it soot only injudicious, but absolutely distrnerful, !
to disturb unailiinity where it was so desirable, or
to allude to the animosities and the misfuftuasaa of 'i! .•
past Mars. lie did not, therefore, wish seideacrihe
what he considered the real character of that Act of .•::1 A Ilailatier- and he. tarnrat fr..sn r .ith • ..1........... i