The British Press; or, Morning Literary Advertiser.
London, England, 1803-06-29 00:00:00

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• SlitTh g TANA was attempted, and while the Hesse
was in The dismaion. the Hon. Member eadeavoured
to avail hiniself of the indelgence of tire Howe, in
order to do the same thing, by reading it as a paitt
of his ipecch. He never 'knew any attempt made
se contr.n•y to the spirit of the oryleri of the. House.
Capt. (:OCHRANE adtuowleeMed that he was
not very conversant with these orders, but had been I
told, the ise—wisit liberty tee seed 'whatever he I
shosight ',roper as it pact of his speech.
- .1 he SP4A.KEdt kiforreed hint that such a pro- I
cee.fiug *his neither-orderly tun regular.
Mr.l-10WARC adverted to a precedent in &-
your ci the .proceedsog, when the then Secretary
(Mr. Dundas) upeat a charge being brought for-
ward, leas allowed to read, as a part of his speech,
a letter from the Duke of York, which was after-
wards laid upon the table.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
observed, that the proceeding alluded to, was the
reverse of this, as the letter then read was one which
was wished to be laid upon the table, whereas the
present Memorial was strongly objeeted to.
Mr. W. DUNDAS said, he had-never heard so
bad an illustration of a litre CAMe as that advanced
by she Hew. Gentleman opposite him (Mr. Howard).
His Right Hon. Relation, on the occasion alluded to,
read as eatrth, and not the whole, of a letter, sshich
besides did not relate to any thing by which the
public service could be a sufferer. The Hon. Offi-
cer spewed his want elf knowledge of parliamentary
forms, when he attempted to read a paper which the
House was deliberating whether it would receive or
not.
Mr. XINNAIRD retorted the expression of
" lame cause," on the Hon. Gentleman who spoke
lait—who, he said, had himself done his best to
help a I..me dog over the stile. The great differ-
ence between reading the whole, and part of a pa-
per, was, that the one might firm a ground for sonic
proceeding, and the other would not ; for which
reason, he submitted, with great deference, to high
authority, whether the Memorial ought not to be
read.
Colonel BASTARD was of opinion, that if
,the oriicrs of thie House prevented the Hon, Offi-
cer from reading the whole of the Memorial as a
part of his speech, he ought at least to be allowed
to read such extraas as he might think necessary
to the illustration of his case, in which he would be

justified by the precedent already alluded to.
(The Howe, by a cry of hear ! bear! seemed gene-
rally to cancur in this opinion.)
Captain COCHit ANE then said, that with the
permission of the House, he would proceed to read
such extracts as appeared to him necessary for the
better information of the House. Commenting on
his extraits as he went on, he said he was obliged to
p:ty 18,3551. for the expences for li.sses of vessels
in the Court of Appeals. This it must be allowed
was a great deal of money, his pocket felt it; but
the King's Proctor went on always aging against
Ls Majesty's Officers. He had a list (which he
produced) of SW causes, in which the King's Proc-
tor appeared against the interests of the Navy. He
was gland that an enquiry was set on foot into the
nefarious proceedings of the Customs; for he had
suffered much by them. The Customs and the
other Boards knew very well how to stick together ;
but the Officers of the Navy had never been known
to stand by each other in this respea, or else these
abuses could not have been suffered to continue so
long.
[ Ile Hon. Gentleman then brought many heavy
charges against the conduit of Mr. Hesseltine ;
which motives of delicacy, and the apprehension
of being led into any mistatement, must induce us
to forbear Ong into any detail of.)
He complained that the officers had no will of
their own. That the proftors and their secret
agents led them into whatever bills and expences
they pleased, wh;cli they were obliged to pay, and
rhos was the money taken out of their pockets.
What security, upon any pnrirication made, could
Vie of have, that the priaors did not retain
the same secret agents still? All he wished was,
that in whatever Bill may be brought in, the House
would guard their interests in future, and let them
put up with the losses they had hitherto sustained.
The °Weft of his Memorial, and all he wanted from
it, WAS that they may be permitted to choose their
own agents ; or if they should be obliged to em-
ploy th King's Proctors the same proitors should
be con tined to that service, and not allowed to ad
both for them and against them. He concluded
with saying, 64 Though people talked much of
taylors bills, this proctor's bill beats all the taylors I
ever heard of."
Dr. LAWRENCE said, that it would be very
much to his individual interest, that the Noble and
Gallant Officer should succeed in his object, but he
feared the Memorial was roach as the House could
not consent to receive. Were he to follow him
through all his statements, he believed, he would
find very little difficulty in sliming that the Gallant
'Member was by no means acquainted with his own
interest, and much less with the constitution of these
Boards and Courts, on which he was so liberal of
his animadversions. He would first ask, what
grounds of &causation could be afforded by a Me.
mortal which would not betaken as evidence in any
court whatever ? Certainly none. But it was corn-I
petent to the Honourable Gentleman, laying aside
his Memorial, to make a motion on the merits of hit
race, and take the judgment of the House,
whether he laid down a sufficient ground for a
vote of censure against Earl Spencer. In speaking
of the effect of memorials, he would put a sup-
posed case, and imagine that a memorial should
be presented by some foreign' state complaining that
a lititish officer commanding on a station, had
thrown as it were a dragnet across the sea to haul
in every vessel that should come in his way ; sup-
pose that foreign state should complain of the in-
jurious lashes and inconveniencies it experienced
fro'm such conduit, he would leave it to the can-
dour of the Hon. and Gallant Officer himself, to
say whether, without further enquiry, such charges
contained iu a bare memorial ou"htt, to be taken as
sufficient grounds of accusation ? But taking the sub-
jet on its especial merits, he contended, that accord-
ing to the Gallant Officer's statemenrof his own case,
he should have said more than he did, for he had a
right to be charged with the interest as well as the
wearing and damages of the cargoes of the ship
Gmernity which he detained, and which had been re-
stored, without any appeal, as having been clearly
proved to be American property. He assured the
Hun. Officer that it required a good deal of diffi-
culty and addyess to save all-these expences on the
occasion he alluded to. He did not seem to know
that the Julia) of hie complaint was always, and

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