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'rho motion ref ',Antis, said Paper was the put
from the Chair. and owed to.
The CH ANCaLLOR pf the EXCHEQUER
rote, and said, that he tad bestowed considerable
gains in drawing up certain rerlurioas, as the hest
00 of removing the inconvenience likely to he enc.
prr:i.nced by inairSdnala concerned in the Private
Dills which were depending in the Lot Parliament
it the period of its dissolution. The delay occa. ,
sinned by the dissolution of Path rnent was to be
lamented by an, hut it bad been reresented as a
greater inconvireience than it really was. That in-
convenience ninst neonatal be 114 tso sorts: the
Ole the delay that had been occasioned to parties
werested., and the oilier the expetres they mar be
th,reby put to. Whether a Private pass in
May or in July. was sot surely a great 0hj...1 of
consideration, as it Was not likely to occasion any
material inconvenimet. The expense was the
c.jeift most worthy of attention. it most arise
In one of other of these rwo ways ; the expense
Viat is incurred by bringing a measure throngh
losrlintnent, by ordinary accustomed fees, and ifs@
_thee the expense incurred by agency, and attend.
.once of witnesses to give evidence. With respea to
h. tiro ut these. he should propose, that the House
shmld a& in conformity with what was done in the
year lytts, by relinquishing ti.e payment of the
fees, up to the date of the disinflation. With respea
to the other species of expease, be should submit two
resolutions, the one confined to the petitions, awl 'the
other to Bills. Al ohservae
ticms. the Right Hos. ()entlemiam concluded with
Tbat every Petition presented daring the
resent Session of Parliament. be referred to a
committee, to exunine. in the first place. whether
it he the cone in substance, and coming from the
same parties as the Petitions presented during the
• Sesiitin I and. in that can. that the minutes of
evidence taken Lefore the •orrner Committee be re.
seised as eriletice upon said Petition, they having
r at thee the Steadies Orders lave been complied
with*
Lord HENRY PETTY rose. be said, not for the
,it nbj Cling to the motion. bat merely to
su. t • •in improvement. The ea had provided
tl s t tutu tees anntild he paid upon Petitions and
• 10 the Clerks of Parliament. whirls it dispels. d
wig.: nu is. nezeinitily be made good by the public,
on Coat some a iditiou to the reenistion became se.
cower _

Mr ' 1.1i1W104 said. he was unwilling to give
his con•eut t .the mean
to as it would be a bad
precedes., a.d an encouragement to any set of
kinisters to advise His Majesty to dissolve Pa►lta-
ment. He had heard no one argument esthete the
necessity ~f the dissolution. l'he Right Hon. Gem•
had come into power by the most uncanstitw too II
sa ans. ard, alleging that he was likely to meet
with a VeNlll,Oll Opp intent% he nod his colleagues
bad advised the dissolution of Parliament. Ile

hew of oe vexatious opposition, Ism be deeply la-
mented the decisions of tit., g• ear Itatfolfal trim
boas, width were breoffit forwent during that
short Parliamerit (waning id,. &ants and Mr.
Lyttletoe's smoiout) because they net only Tender-
•S inseam the Down itself, bet 'Me the liberties
et the psisple to weeld coltrather have th..
Wielded- to iv* a harddip, elf thatehae should
Wrings any all of l'allksols, we, as be was afraid
these wee ens principle net virtue monk net so
'site advantage of math 4 premdent.
Lord HOWICt coneurred with the lest Speaker
iu thiolciag, that however desirable it was is 'Awe
individuals from itmedeesimee and expense, yet it
was of far g.. .iter comegeence, that the principles
of the Constitarion shrubd got be injured by soy in-
fringement of the laws. Every day wossid show,
mere and more. the '
ssspssprtety, ineoevenience,
and hatd.bip, seising from the lase Dissolution of
Parliament. He was far from :h the in.
v• ntenee. to Me present instance, so •ht as was
rei,resented. Whet was to be the comprossette is
t.-earl to those Bills that were contested. such as
the “nst-: Pon dill. and easy others of last Ses-
sion ? Did the Right Hen. Osademan advert is the
serenity of ad the arguments being repeated. and
sonsequently that his proposed plao would go very
little way is remet:ying the defea? The House
should pause before they renewed to do away the
Standing Ordersof the Home, upon trivial grounds.
He should at least wish the Right Hon. Gendesuan
to suspend the meant, e, for 24 hours, in order that
Iss might consider, mote maturely. the inconveni.
usce. in the year 1744, which had been alluded
to, anise of the Standing Orders of the limits were
suspended. The more the Hinise looked into the
state of the Perlismentary Proceedings. the mote
they wadi and that the incenveniexce was of the
greatest magnitude, and the pretence for the Dim-
Neuss, bypoctitical and frivolous. He wished the
Ware to see the list of Private Bills, and then they
could judge more precisely of the real incouvenseuee
ereattd. the Inclosure finis wets numerous, end
the inconvenience was neither more nor less than a
complete detest of their passing daring this Session.
Here a long conversation ensued, which. from .
the press of other =anti., we must terrain from at-
tempting to detail, but merely state the result
Resides the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE-
QUER and Lord HOW ICE. whn each of them
spoke again upon the stilled, the hallowing klem-
bets gave their opinions
Sit JOHN NEWPORT disapproved t,f the
measure, as it tended to substitute written evidence
before the Committee in pLce of parole testimony.
Mr. ROSE said. the fees were nut settled by
AR of Parltionnit. but merely !,y Resolution, cf
House, se that they might be dope away with in
ire same manner. without any take), to the Como.-
tutional principles.
Mr. BAS l'A itD spoke against the motion,
saw no ground for the House goitug up it•
orders, merely became the Crown had thou,::
Praiser to exercise its prertgative, and to
the Parliament.
Sit JOHN ANSTRUrHER also spoke a7airrii
lt. He wished to know what the Right H u Gen-
tkmas would pies/ow to do in those eases, wive, the
interests of the pasties had changed, or where a
fall had died, arid as heir had succeeded t
Mr. SHAW LEFEVRE mired an adjourn
meet of the discussion. petit ti -morrow, to pet-
Gentlemen an opportunity of considering the matter
more deliberately.
Messrs. Vim. Smith. Charles Wynne, acid Mr.
C. Dontiss, spoke is favour of the adjournment.
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diviJed—For the adjournment of the Debate 164,
against it 76-88.
Upon our entering the Gallery, the CHA NCEL.
LOR of the EXCHF.QUE.R *as upno l is lefts,
and proposed that no Petitions for private Bills be
received after Mond iy next.
Mr. PONSONBY, Mr. W. SMITH. and Lnrd
HOWICK, objefting that the time was too short to
allow of Petitions from distant parts of Ireland and
Scotland.
Ale motion of the CHANCELLOR of the
EXCHEQUER, the time for receiving such peti-
tions WAS fixed for Wednesday sennight.
It was also moved, and or-tiered. that no private
Bills be presented after Monday' the 13th of July
neat ; and that no Reports upon private Bills be
received atter the 27th July next.
Mr COCHRANEJOI-INS' CONE moved, unit

there be laid before the House a statement of .the
number of troops sant to the West Indies. from
January 1797, to January 1807, (Writ:limiting the
number of mEeersand men. and of deaths in the

several regiments" The object of his motion lir
stated to be to inquire into siie causes of the dread-
ful mortality amongst the troops. sad what reme-
dies were hest to apply.

Sir H. MILU :1A Y said, that
any man who had been loaded with so ii,uch ca-
lumny and misrepresentation as he bad, could not
but feel desirous to stand fair with the public, by
clearing his charaCter and reputation. The Itr-
t of the Military Conunissiupers had been laid
hold drag IN foundation of inipmeies. same sspa►
biol. that ho had received undue favours from Go-

vernment, and bad token undue adviuttages of their
treaty with him for foe rent et I.loultharn-Hall
Such an Insinuation h.• was persta.aded the Coniart-
tionrs of Inquiry naves meant to convey. but by
anonymous writers he had been cruelly 4.perseC.
He had, however, b".rhe these att cLs
once, until he could havc AU opportunity or sta-ia-
tog up in his place in th.tt douse in Isis own &truce.
Trio 'eclat:soon he Will to woe, he ()wed :o
his own Chardiaer' to hi, sionetintents, to House,
and to his I los. Fri. ad (mr. S. BJuinr). oho WAS
Ulm private S-c.et,iy to .Ir. Pitt. but u•,w one of
the Lards .ef the 1' :asury. Sir Iletay then pro-
ceeded at aGnor ..t :elate the • lansacti.us of

his treaty wit.: Gov 11 .n-• t t blouleitan
hall. Ia 1793, he firu blcanie pcswued of vat
estate. ar.d in virtue 111 ...le wul 41 the TtstAtor, be
was nodes an obligation to irsidc upon stint th re
months its the year Ir 1803, it bad been found
elpedient to throw op niottary works in his neigli-
tinurhood, from an apprehension of a threatened
invasion, end eves to eater his park. Gael' ap•
pliceion was accordingly made to him on the sub-
consequ•nce of his agreeing to this, no les.
than 13.)0 men were constantly at' work the:e9 be-
sides a large body of military adjoining. that it
was literally liviug as in an entrenched camp, an::
subleased aim and his family to mach incc•nvenience.
There. howewr, he still continued to reside, till
footpad robberies were committed aLmosi close to
his bone, be supposed aim Giglio mu of ten.—
He in eenteirence scasad to kir. Addington the
greet ineunvenisme of having permanent datracks
reared within half a mile of his home. la answer
'lv deli,. he Moe ilivieseimi gib swim as agora to
00111rtr$0 with the Secretary of the Treasury. and
to consider of the compensation duet others were
also consulted. He. es the result, made an offer
at bit boom ter the use of dee Ge:oral of the Dm-

tad. upoo a suitable compensation. This was
charged upon him as a Ministerial job, and at
time. when m fan he bad newer given to Mr. Ad.
diogton's Adzoinisuatioa a single vote. Regular
Surveyors from the Barrack Office were then sent
down to 'taming and report. He stated that after
the house was put is repair. 4001. awyear was coo.
mildewed as a fair price for the House and 90 acres
,of land. The house was completely furnished.
About eighty years ago it had cost fa building
70.0001. being large and spacious, aodcoutaiaing
14 rooms on a floor. He considseed as coaspea-
sation had been given him for twain him as it
were out of doom. He then proceeded to read the
wadi& of a Jury that had been armisoned. which
was that be should give 11001,for the repairs.
and receive a rent 01 6001. a year; and even
then be declared be did net receive from Go-
venosent one quarter proportion of what the Earl
of Essex had received from the Commissioners of
the Grand Janition Caul. for antics through
part of Cuhiobury Park. kia only entreated those
who found fault would call another July. He de-
clared his willingness to answer any questions that
ought be put to bum on the subjea ; and concluded
with moving." That there be laid before the Houle
a Copy of the Memorial presented by him to the
Committee of Military Inquiry."
Mr. STURGES BOURNE seconded the mo-
dos. and strenuously defended the conduit of the
Surveyor sent down by Government, from anony-
mous imputations i imputations which seemed to
receive san.Sion from <he remarks of two Noble
Lords opposite (Lords Temple and Howickj.
He complained ot the gross misrepresentations
which had gone forth i he denied that he had any
comrsmnication with the Hon. Hamm on the sub-
jett. ot that he had ever lent the aid of his official
situation to were any advantage to him or any
friend. He had been charged witb orderir.g G3Ol.
to be laid out on his friend's premises, whilst the
latter had only paid 11501.; but the order of Treasu-
ry was to enable him to take the lease of the premises,
with the whide expenses attached to them, tug 6301.
It was a mistake to suppose that this sum only re-
ferred to the repairs.
Earl TEmpLv. crinchkJed, that the memorial
concurred with every thing stated by the Hon.
rent, and had no obi:aeon to its being laid before
t/ e House.
:r. MARTIN vindicated the Commissioners
of Military Inquiry. Their Report stated. that
11-501. a year hat been allowed for SO acres of
land. and that they thotigEt that this agreement
ii,claded a eortipensurinn for the use of the House.
le viturcated the Commissioners' statement, that
tie compaa entered into Was disadvantageous to
the public, viz. 13501. a year for the land, and
430 L a year afterwards for the lease of the horses.
Mr. CANNING complained of the wane of can.
d •or towards the Huts Baroaseto who. he thatigbi,
had completely refuted the attack which had bees
male epos boor ; it appearel to ?119 pat mm 44;
•

the 1-lon. &met h.atl been completely refuted;
(Hear ! bear ! from, lb, OppesitiJos sLG of at Howe )
not vrotti that have been regarded. had it not been
for the attempt made by two Nob!? Lords to give
stamp and currency so such calumnious represeata-
lions ; it war dais which had indu,:rd the Finn. Lb*

tuner to take thi: method of viodieming
Mr. MAR IIN and Sir H. MlillMAY ex-
plained.

Lord HOWICK said. it was painful to discuss
a qnes,i:m, in which the personal tre!ireo of the
Honourable Baronet were so concerned, :)ut being
celled upon, be should open his mind freely. Hese
tar agreed. that is was unbecoming a Member of
Parliament to enter into a vindic•ti••n of mere

newspaper attacks. He acquitted Mr. S. %eine t I all
blame in the share he had had officially of this trans-
ellen : but he was not quite satisfied with the Hon.
Baronet's statement; these were nor times in which
charges against any mall were to be I u: down by
lofty tones or language; whatever calumnies had
been circulated (if rich) he considered as the ca-
lumnies proceeding from the Fourth Report ot Mili-
tary Inquiry. But on what ground had the charge
been brought against him ot embodying that ca-
lumny? Because lie had stated that th.. Finance
Committee englo not to have the Hon. Baronet on
i.s list.whilo there was pending an inqu:iy into this
tratisaltion, for the public would not hes aisfied with
such an appointment. It appeared to him tl.at
the jury, when they gave him so ample a value for
1 the la d, metro, in that, to give him a compensa-
' non for the hntts-, and that it appeared, from this
statement of the transaltion, that the pdtilliheal 'aide
irol the lion. Baronet had been paid, twice fur the
some thing. The Hon. Baronet had himself ac
knowleoged the negligence of those who treated on
the part of Government. It appeared that the Hon.
Woad had not lees then 7501. a-year allowed him,
uaclusive of the taxes to he pod by the unants. He
required further explanation before he could be sa-
tisfied on these heads l at the same time be declared,
that It would afford him great pleasure to find the
condall of the Rio. Baronet completely eindicatcd.
Mr. WN. DUND.AS felt himself called up tit
to give an account,of the transaakes so far as he
was concerned, having been in an official situation
at that time. It was impossible he could know any
thing of the decision ot the Jury. It was nem-
sery that the Staff should be properly provided,
and the orders he issued were upon the certificate of
the Surveyor. He had no motive whatever in view
but the pudic service.
General HOPE defended the Hon. Baronet.
Mr. P. CA REV tbotswht the original allowance
was most liberal, fair, and honourable.
Mr. MON ('AGUE recommended it to the
House, that the Memorial should he first laid on
the Table, with the Report, in order to give
Gentlernen en opportucity ot cassideving it, sad
reserve the further die ussina for a future day. •
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
entirely acquiesced in the suggestion of his Hon.
Vriend, and thought it would becnene tee Ge th-
roat on the other sale of the House, before Limy
(crowd, or at least before they pronounced any
jwiptinerit upon the cinestion, to have all the falls
before them. He did not see the slightest pretence
to justi any supposition of All imutation upon tt.e
Han. Bironees charaller,lsisd BeT!f Gesaberew
ventured to ce:-.sure him, • hey shou'd consider under
wham circum,tances the Jury deeratd.
Mr. MONTAGUE ex.:lensed i sod Mr. CROP.
LEY ASHLEY exculpated the O•dnaneeDepart•
meat from any share in the transaarast.
Lord HENRY PET I Y bad no hesitation in
wring. that the lion. Gentlemen (Mr. Sturges
"Bourne) stood wholly exempt from any imputation
port this transaltion. As to the qiiestion itself, he
perfeely agreed with the Hon. Gentleman, (Mr.
Nnntague), and should abstain from any observa-
tions, until all the documents were before the House.
The Question was Vora put and carried, and a
copy of the Memorial presented to the Commision-
era of Military Inquiry was ordered to oe brutigot
up, and laid nn th • table.
The SECRETARY at WAR brought in a Bill
for empowering the Commissioners ot Kilmariham
Hospital to make rules and rey,itiations respeCting
the payment of pensions on that establishment.
Read a first time, and ordered to be read a second
time to-morrow.
The following Eleltion Petitions, complaining of
undue eleCtions, were then presented, and the days
appointed for taking the sams into consideration as
follows:
wino of Esteem. on Tueslay, the 2 tst July.
Downi.atrirk, oh the fame day.
Neeesstle.under-Line, can the same day.
Upon the motion of Lord CASTLEREAGH,
the House went into a Cs emittee upon His Majes-
ty's Message, respelling the grant of an annuity for
life to Msydr-General So J. Stuart, K. B.
The Noble Lot d in Committee introduced the
Resolution by as euiogium upon the gallantry and
skill of that meritorious Officer, and was satisfied
that this grant world meet the fall approtaation of
the House. He then moved 14 That there be granted-
to His Majesty 10001. per annum, in order to settle
an annuity for life upon that brave and meritorious
Officer."—Th;s resolution was agreed to nem. cos.
and the Report ordered to he received t,,-ITIOLIOVI.
Upon motion of the CHANCELLOR of the
EXCHEQUER, the Speech of the Commissioners,
delivered on Friday last, in the House of Lords,
was ordered to be takers into consideration, in a
Committee ot the whole House, tit-mom row.
Mr. Hobhouse brought up the Report of
Committee upon the Iron Customs Alts. The re-
solutions were read and agreed to, and a Bill order-
ed to be brought in pursuant thereto.
The Irish Revenue Cuileaion Afts were also re-
ferred to a Committee, the Report received, and a
Bill ordered pursuant thereto.
The Hosts also went into Committee upon the
American Treaty Arts, the Report was received,
and a Bill ordered to be brought in pursuant
tliereto.
°Mr. Hobbouse brought up the Report of the
Committee on the Expiong Laws, which was or-
dered to be printed.
I be I louse went into Committee upon the Coffee
Warehousing Bill,whenMr. Ro,e intr..duced a clause,
which was agreed tn, extending the powers of tOe
saki AR to tne post of Amsterdam, in the is:and cf
Caracas. Report to be received to-mores.
ftee House then adjourned at Eleven
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