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Wit.nr.nvencs tem,ai:.l stated hie an%itty•
that some rvmne.ly should be adopted for the evils
' yumptieined 04 but he silo WI prospect of effecting
coy thing eflreluul iluriag the present Session.—
The I,lo.ise weir at prmse iit much iu es it of infers-
mama upon the imul'icct of Iredi policy, a enema-
stance winch was much to be regretted but as it
cuu'd oat proceed to propose a remedy, he should
wish this mlue-lion to tie disposed of igy the previous
que.tiori. rather than an actual lieot.ee.
Mr. Cattmtni: thought it mootiated to the 11411111 e
thing, whether the !Anise dispos•J of this question
be x ditret negative, or by .the previous questiou
pot, as it was evident to him, that the time.
pe.ipliety. or expediency of the measure. held
out tin prospects of its truing possible to remedy
the evils compl; dof during this Session. It
was not by sodifeo WI nor starts that any
great evil could be got rid of; hut there most
iseressardy be many considerations of all its
bearings, and much chNenssion upon every point,
uud every interest aKeted by a change, previous to
its adoption. Although the Union of the two
countries had the lotentste: of thrum
bothi vet still there was a thscessify for nice
discrimination before shy alteration of a iirr-
licutsr spawn should take place a. to, or so
as to assimilate it. whim that of the other, as
much depended upon load circumstance..—
. Ile should vote for the previona quest ioi, although
it was not usual to propose it Upon, the linaging
a Hill, ay he did not ohjeit to theAnottoie opscßt
principle. If, however, lie thottAtit; that it had

been proposed with a vire to itifringe upon the
F,ateigishert Church, he should certulialy object to
the ineaiate upon its principles.
Mr. Paseoest said there was no reason to ap-
prehond that the asesottire for remedying th:r mike
complained could infringe upon the Protestant
Church, as it was ode of the esseutial provisions of
the Union that that should be initintinued as the
erraWiteled religion of the land. Us uuderstood
that the generality of the ecclesiastical bodies iu
Ift land were ail in favour of a chaisre iii the system
. of collecting tithes, and it wes oil)), a few of tbe,
higher leader who objected to it.
. Mr. PAasst.t, in reply, said it wus astonishing
to hear th: Chancellor of the Exchequer
that this was too late a period of the Simeon men-
ter upon th.i subject of the government of Ireland.
often hi a few obeys be would have to propose Bills
to tillause new taxes upon the le:mph.. to the
ainuaiit .43 Sr 440,0001. a year lit addition to the
&morn:oils amount of Itur. lens already proposed.
A allatsioli then tool: i.! ice, when the previous
question was curried by a inajarity.
Ear the previous question
Against it ,.... 69
Majority •
Lord fleets Perry. in the absence of his lion.
Friend, (Mr. Motel Martin,) suggested the pro-
priety of postponing the consideration of the two
sets of Resolutions relative to the public expendi-
ture, to Tuestitty se' 'gin.
After some observations from the CuAticemt.oa
of the Exciteov re, it was agreed to post cue that
subject to till, da., Friday se'ionight.
SEATS IN PARLIAMENT.
Mr. CURWEN Moved the uriter of the Day, for
the Ho.E.e going Mtn a Committee ripen the Bill
for pr.-venue% traffic, and bribery Or mail in Par-
Lord Fottesoets suggested the propriety of
postponing this matter to a future day, as it was
likely to lead to considerable discussion, and much
of th.. day hail been already occupied by the pre-
vious busiuess.
T; .s proposal was put from the Chair and ne-
gatived without a division, after a few words from
filr. Johnston, in support of it.
[loon the question for the Speaker leaving the
Chair ; •
Coiuuax spoke against the Motion, upon
the grounds that the Bill in question would not be
safficieatlyetlec,ual, and indeed that it was unneces-
sary. us there been already a notice given by
an Honourable Friend of his (.Ir. Matlock,) for.
a measure id reform, in parliamentary rspresen-
tation.

Sir WATGIN WILLIAMS WYNN 6 supported the
motion, ita the present measure w our, which
was calculated to carry into more contelete effixt
the treating and bribery Acts.
Mr. Juntssrily opposed the Speaker's leaving
the chair, as in his tiew of the subject there had
not heen such a CASe made out 114 to ind me the
House to hazard soy new experiment. Parliament
was a publie., lioily that seemed never to have sertNen
to its present perfection, by the suggestion of any
one individual, but from a fortunate combination

of time and circumstanced, and therefore it won't'
be matinees to risk such a blessing as in pursuit of
some imaginary object or greater state of per-
fection. 'Those parliament., that had proposed the
sets alluded to by the Hon. Baronet, were *nem-
fled tbnt certain evils were likely to appear ; hut
it was (ike contrary to the practice of Parliament
to adopt oily measure to rectify evils before they
actually male their •ppearance. lit Parliament
tt.elf where should we find any thing to remedy ?
Let them compare present practices with those
of our ancestors. It was not enough, because we
found throughout the country a disposition to ca-
lumniate ParliMsents, that they were to be their
own calumniators. One would imagine from tl,ese
caliiinuies that Parliament were only intent upon
legislating for their own benefit. Ile should, how-
ever, say, that Parliament, as it at present stood,
with all its faults, exhibited a mould of purity
flamghbql, which no other :tssembly ever exhibit-
ed before. Had they, in any instance. exempted
themselves from those burdens they inflicted upon
the people? On this contrary, whenever they
had any doubt about the propriety of impos-
lag a tax, they immediately reverted to the con-
dition of Hamm snore likely to suffer by it than
themselves. As to abuses to politic expenditure,
he believed that they existed in a less proportion
than in the families of individuals. A man with
an income of 5,0001. a year exceeded in extrava-
gance all the extravogance of Parliament upon its
wimle expenditure for the same period of time. As
to errors to manage t, he Ireg.,ted them to look
to other establish swain, and snake the comparison.
The Bank of England was even• proverlsial for ac-
ciiracy. and yet we «rid that five years rims. with
all its care amid vigilance. a greater fraud had heel'
committed upon it th to had been allowed to escape
he notice of the Llouse of Commons' during the