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Sl' GAR DISTILLING.

On the motiolkot Ale. Rose, That the Speaker
do leave the ('hair, in order that the
should go into Cmumittee on this sibject."
Mr. Coax ro..e. and proceeded to express his sa-
tisfaction with the rammer in which the Noble Lord
had brought the question before the House on a
former Leming. as constitutional and prudent. He
was sorry to hod the Chancellor of the Exchequer
should have given it so very different a feature,
io his turn, he discussed its propritty. There
existed uo grounds for ins statement. There
neither existed extravagantly high prices, nor yet
any reason to apprehend a famine. The present
peter was a mere remunerating prim ; and by
lumping up the use of out own corn in distilting,
we should ant r mach money which would °Oper-
ative be exported to America awl the Colovies.—
England, until the itstsrfereoce of its Government,
had been always a great exporting kingdom.
Since the,....t hurl been so importtug kingdom. He
read front volutainott. report of the Committee
wane extratl, of.the evidence of Mr. Chambers.
stating Ilk fe4l7 of the et II consequences which had
berme, and would in futur7arise from the auterfer-
race of t:overntneut is the eons supply ;
twee would he a very great full if there shoull ap-
pear a tiruspiet of tt good bade). scour'. This now
was the . 4,•• ; there was every hope of a good
crop ; and should that crop prove black bailey,
their wool., he no other means of eutuUltritiig it
except is. al -tsllstitt% tssi.hell moth the matter
Omuta noi lie irrtstruetwil by slis.est—
aiost., a. there eNistssl solite serious apprehension,
from Part..sms sit's entertaining the suhject, that
here was JUNt souse of alarm.
Mr. H asv hoped Vie House would take up the
tatter on a 11:1.11tit'r wound that, the llottounible
4enilier laid done. The West India Planters had
lade out t....r ease, and with strong claims had
upbed to Coat House for re!tef. They were en.
tied to our opport. What would br the con.e-
grace *Might tawny of our sealeittents I,e ohm.-
lord The enormous sum of nine millions tat
it reicnite tensed be Inst to the ; the
mirth port of our shipping %%0101 !sr a.t,si s flu r
,contiplo, ; our exports decreased to the minima

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—ffene;C, to prove that the revenue would be as well
secured by this measure. for utheitnee the use M
sugar, from fraud, as by the we of Frain. The
House was tutu culled to decide, lie soil, haw eel,
the possiiile conseqsence of a deride:it:on in the trade
to America, and the loss of four millions mid a halt
of revenue from thence anomaly, and the trifinig
restriction to be piton the use Adieu...so shinning,
which might probably lower the price one shilling
per guesser.
Sir Warxists W. Wits we contended that any
change winch should be mole in the state of the
distillery, should be Colleted nu the increased
pike of corn here, aii.l not on thy decrease/I price
of sugar. He should he glad any relief should be
given to the West Indies; but lie hoped this should
imt be alone drawn from the deprce.. of the
landed interest. Distilling, he °been ed. was now
naturally at an end till Octo ore 'wet. If then
barley should be at a high price, it would be pro-
per to restrict its use ; at all events, it ass very nit-
proper to agitate the question at psi-rut, us it had
•already risen the price, by exciting upprehension.
Mr. Ileitittet considered the subjeet in two (lit-
hium point, of view, that the House shonld more
easily perceive the merits of the question. 1 irat, as a
sal. -et of domestic policy, aim next as of colo-
Mal polie). Tine counts(, he contended, ONC.I
a di ht to IVret mid as the usual
quantity of corn, amounting to hliiMA3o gilar-
trros. were generally imported annually iuto
c ante'. as MO supply had lion been cut tel. by.
Bueaparte. as an Importation of sugar was altoge-
gether the same, why should it not be used to sup-
ply this deficteitcy for our distillery ? Ought so
the nation to be happy at haying made the the. -
sere for its own sake alone? anal ought not this to
be increueed, in consequence of its aseiethig the co_
lollies at the sone time I Let this country only
take what would serve itself. In forme:- )eurs the
consumption, accordiag to Young anti ethers, hail
exactly equalled the crop ; but in di.. 1:1.5 it had been
one-fourth deficicid ; we must therefote cquahre the
one to the other. and let the colonies hate the pre-
lettuce; torn whence you will receive the value
hack again in the course of trade. Ts a grain-
grower or dealer, it was all one from whence this
supply was desired ; they had no right to complain;
to the country it was a fair ground of discussion.
If the country said, we will not do it by importa-
tion, we will effect it by dimieishiag the enossusup-
lion, none could object to the right of choice,
though it *mild, perhaps, he thought more libe-
ral to do others a benefit, while we were doing
one to °etre-Ives. It hail been stated that price
was the criterion of scarcity—tais he did not ad-
mit. The price had now risen, 'twat true, yet it
would probably rise after the present measure
should be abandoned. Ile could feel with land-
lords and country gentian's, for he was oleo an
agriculturist. and a suceessfal one ; yet he was not
alarmed. The present price had been said to
be only a remunerating price. This was to be
taken in a two-fold sense, as it affected the land-
lord or the farmer. To the member for Hamp-
shire.. who, it appeared, owned a large hurley
farm, which would soon be out of lease, probably
a price which would produce double the rent of
the farm, would 'motet • fair remunerating price.
The Norfolk member would, perhaps., say, that as
barley hood had of seine late years risen from three
to I,s uillms rer acre, the remunerating price mug
be in the...ante proportion. In Essex, where he ws.s
assure el land had of late been lettiug at wild and ex-
travagant prices. the fair remunerating price would
also be wild and extravagant. In South Wales, near
the llonourahle Baronet, he understood if a fans
was out of lease to-day, your dour. would be
besieged tminorrow with crowds bidding six or
oleo times the last rent; here the remunerating
price must be via or seven times what was just
and right. This was only is§ IA fere:ice to the
wish of landlords. Fanners twist consider it in
a differeut view ; first to enable die,,, to pay
these exorbitant rents, anal Heat to insure theme
selres against the short crop. The report of
the Committee was altogether what it should be,
sheeting the wretched state of the %Vest India
platters; though formerly wealthy, they now were
in the daily habit of finding themselves w one.-
07ice they supimrted upwards of 17 thousand
of our seamen, and returned to the mother coun-
try foe millions sterling revenue, bee:tles udding
more to our balance of kale Orin all the nutione
of the earth. Now, lit that acts, and
those of Bonaparte, they had I ecu distressed
by an importation of one-third more sugar
titan was usually mounted. The West India
merchants had been brand...l with the epithet of
geinhling speculators, terattse they took some
pains to. ulovate Their estates. *bile those who dud
so in Great Britain thought themselves, and others
ack rise !edged them also, to he the most cue.
flututulr una beneficial Int inbcrs of sot lety. Tlnue
ditilitinitOU to be iinjest mei harsh te-
o•rcis tee colonists in all eieriods of the Blois!'
ins-
tory. This wan felt there. (le.•,t part of the CO..
10:ift'S Vow were suffering bent the Cu, i-is of stir
r ; is-•r would the philters nor the too at. s Pallet
thew proatsous of clothes, couseniesouiee, amid lie-
eessacer, which must be the ittevitahle comic-
.' .1 eii a of a (leered,* in their sugar trade,
we hoot repining, perhaps. without rebelling. This
steel'. .0 Intl • eathering, would toots Luna.
.41' sly. we have ns dislike to assist the colonies,
red:. tit slot be done in this way, or that way, or
the other way, because each clashes with some cue
05 their interests; but the eking is oserstretehed,
rust insist crack ;—the conytilsims %sill take place,
and that, said he, speedily. It hail cites been said,
the plait proposed would do the West India met-
enatits no good. Tin, was .tangs, that they should
it: sw down thy tengeasice of the leaded interest on
li.cur aeak brads, without Ititeing mit sutiguine
hot., of emeeectiog by the remedy. Were they

ol!tot4 or tottatueo fo a. t thus ? It %sat u mert uct
of justice to tovure the Colonies frefil destruction
hud liven sin iinCittrl contract butnetu this
ountry mid the Colouit.. which she *as n 4 muds
bongo! to preserve. as if and 4. ak.h, To
o mere act of la%ti. c—;,ot tofu-
We had comp :!,..t1 tit,to to I.ti to,J

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and ti., it hottitm;;litTes r ew ihtel our
T.• Taal inr VI hat bad th:.y .agrted to Overt:- ?c in
?
i aly on Oh. ptco.so, that T,T. Tore t'uraTT
4. ,CtIS to our :Talker. Tuts Lad brim violated ;

the niailiet had teelsclusel lir ;lama tl.em. The
" quid mu *pm" has been rimmed, the bargain has
been . anceiled, and they were Slow at libert. to
seek for redr.sui. The fortinie of war bud don,
much for the landed interest, by pro entiug the
importation r Scorn. and Injured the Colonies, h:
decreasing the exportation of sugar. Should the:
not hate wine stroll abase in the benefits vet rs-
'staining ; and as the present incesure coull not
much inconvenience the lauded interest. they ought
to hate the great benefit of the measure's enact-
'neut. If something• were not done, they ',fluid be
lust to this country. for they have fe!t the force of
Montesii.iien'e Just and melancholy observation,
that the Colonies of a flee state are worse of than
these of an absolute monarchy. 'Etiey ore oppressed
by the 4;mila...tug interest of It mixed Government.
If they were lint of advai.ta..e to Great Britain. as
some hail preposterously said, give them to Bolla
Witte. 11111 it would be the sure means of obtaining
a 'wiser on Noy terms we should please to dictate.
The filiht should remind Parliament of the sad ef-
fects of the measlier* refusing to fied the body
which supported them. The objet tons had been
WA extraordinarily urged. Some said it would
raise, others it would depress the price of corn ; those
who thought it might do good hew, were afraid it
might do good also in the Colonies, mud hence op-
pol.d it. It was not his wish, nor ever loud been
the e•zpeetatiott of the Colonies. to dc:,ress the corn
market, to raise the sumo: 41. d euloniiil market.—
They too well know the cold,calculating spirit or
:wintry. It was Said ibis 111,11litte would prove
a noun: i4noguitis precedeut in the bleeds of the
IVest Belia Planters. Astonishilig I in their hood.:
—o ho had {west worsted by every interest v. ii:01
had eter ytt te,N-cteetl itself to them. In fat t, every
argument, either of solid sense or copious in-
friewatimi, had of fate been presented to the tme-
oa this subject, and vet, like—
A man convincest agai..st his will,
They'ic of the same opinion still.
Of th:s he stoat!, however, at puling, apprize
them, that should they turn a deaf car to the en-
treaties of theColOnies, they would shortly have no
colonies to protect. He had hoped that this question tumid
not Laic hoes considered as a pnel question; hat, however,
he an awry to bail himself mistaken, and that the lion.
Gentleman, with whom Lc bad been in the habit of votaig,
thought it right to make it one. alt Bombe sight be re-
ceived a circitlar It tlir from a. Invisible hood, who wrote it
ate where it came hunt, be did out know, bat it was *rh-
ino...via toe-very Gentleman in that House, it our a constant
practice
iu, to nail letters to Members of both sides of the
*hem any thing of momeat wee expiated. The let.
ter he received, stated the present meow would be out,
and it was determined to be opposed, and beirreg his early
attendance, as an early division was expested • it was writ-
tea in the same baud as the former letters he had reeebred.

Mr Due nay cow ,enced with observing, that oo this
question, he was of the cum °piss°o qs his Hammel: le
Friend, Sir Artliar Wellesley. He thought the circumstan-
ces r :related the tout tresses of Parlianbeat ; he allowed that
the landholder aid farmer had as great a right to protection
and encouragement es the nuutufact twee, but were Gentle-
men prepared to usy, that at any other period, our resources
weie so critically placed ports of Europe were shut
against Uf and all resources of Importing grata completely
cot off, and our ruinous wets placed in the stele •Iltlat•sta,
O marks was open for their produce They were straight -
ei.,01 for pierrisitma, and the mother country could nut supply
them. At the same tune he slid nut believe there was su peat
•ocarcity as contended by some Honourable Gentlemen ; he
believed that the barley mad oats Ind faded, but it was the
costes" se to wisest The t se was not similar to soy
ewer before that Home • the assuage only west to ssy, that
if the asps the elimination of grain should Le
stopped, and the premature of the colonies sabstiented. flow
this could be called as soma interfereoce be was at a hiss
to led out, or hew It could iajtare the laisdkolder. He con-
*laded by ointments, that Is would give the measure hut
entire support hut at the mast time he tturaght that Juice
might to be substituted for October
Mr. Possoone said, that with cif eest, to the note
produced by his Ilea. Friend w hie spoke last bat one, he
could armee bin, cu his honour, that he lover had intetrlined
Is it directly sir iuduectly. lie hoped hr.'s*s act weak
enough, afte r Laving semi, on the hist night this questiou
was °hennaed, so aviary uf his friends who bad recently voted
with bon, differ from him epos it, to attempt to make it
a party husincia ; and hr assured him on his honour he was
nut indiscreet enough to give his ament to sus h a !curt—
He tlion‘bt this explanatioa was wit-ranted, from the e Dab-
dence placed in him by his Colleague.. An Hon. Gent.
bad thought proper to gad fault with slat had fallen front
bias au a former weren't:, respecting Ireland ; all be scald
me was, the: it was yustilied by the tang-gage of the Chat.-
..1110f the f: arbequer of Ireland, who sat", ilia the
Paton should sot be violated for cuorrninve. Tor L.l
part, he thought that it aught not to be violated apoti soy
groom:. 'shah err ; fur if it were once broken is upon,
who was to l.e the incite of how far the inlinent:ou should p ?
This countrb had gained every this; by the tnieni, sad
Ireland heel lest her existence aa an independent Ling.
dom. lie opr*rd the measurer trading` to depress time
farmer ; and thought it viu unwise of the !loom to tote Mere,
except at a I !me of dire necessity. 76e Oracle of the Miuis-
terial Benches had said that there •es not any dagger of a
artily, adding, that the Griner could tint be injured hy the
'aspens:on. This kind of argument was peopowtertnie It
must lie &noised that the tamer had ouly three mil's. ts„,
first, the I otieumption of pun sceolol, the br, rt a ice ;
And third, the disidleries. If they rut ott one, of On
mu Leto, th. fartoar uonld only raise. ;man *Where'll for thc
other tun. It' she three otarkrts were coutintbed, and an
mutat se seedy tame on, the stoppage of the distilleries
uouhl al. 4ys secures sufficient 'apply ; but if they used
sugar to the diatilteries, the country could hope for so each
res..urcc. Pisttllntion from grate always left a surplus ta
the ront.try, and it mote pet had been lumen, that when Its.
31-sniety, In the advice of his Conseil, had issued a Year hunahou for (Er utorping of the distilkries, that intimuity
had teen denied.
Mr. Di • ei as explained.

Mr. Ric sos r • as smear mum rm.. Whom beldam
act ttar 14C11 of 4 ‘4 artity, but as a intim a all the carom.
stances, and rate. 44 4as dm fanner policy villas camas", he
a.s kw the tOraeMe.

'riot !tette ton te lf SCOT? LID eupported the
measure tie • that •wad pretend • scarcity in the cesuntiy
In Sett awl he nue confident there •as a ecarcity, and he
In lieied stopplur the nee of graio in t►e Jlstilkrwa sould
prole on (Cecina: remedy.
Str H MILDVAN thought t►r West India Coition•• souht
lie I•est tes,sted intim; uff the duties spun s•tu, and
that :he pu.ent imasi.rt, if adopted, I, otshi lain the laud. .1
interest. 1 he Hon. PhroDet then proceeded to eapatime
upon the peat support which the landed interest altoetk d in
the slate, mud the he as y hurdeLs which they alre.oly centered.
he high price of !Jerky lA. attetlented 1..4 to au seined
scare it•. hut tutht agitation of the present quirstiou
:11r. W IST I'RN Ihu•g' I it use itemise of 3insisters to pub%
the necustire after the small nehjority they hail NH the few..
night ; fur if they did carr it, it would nut gene them much
popularity, after such an immense MIMI!) against it . sad
if these ass a sewed', they mid/ atop the destilhitiou by
Protlernatiou, es they did in the year teuu.
Ti.. ('NA 17 LLCM a the EICIIIIII4It is detlarell be did
not wish to fere • ith are landed interest of (Si •..t.i.e.y.
Int ate so. •t.t..4 o Glat that deeneaded thy intr. ft ICU. 0,1
the lega/Istere He could ant WA c►at objection there
c•nild aa.ii..et going into the Cvonnittse ; and if he
th...•t;ld it was intended te have debated the question sg.iii.,
they ...mild Lave gone lido l'owinitlee• ass the fuenser night.
Wurrußr As said, that on a Oxon.-, night the sup-
tee te: e ioutteure argued en it As a colonial que•i
but •a al e mote of Iwo drys defy frond out it was ■ Bri-
teak ous lit Y.J not t.e.sa►e the Wan hul.a.,• 'A wild U.Aak

the eliancellni of the rdohrluer f..r serlertidf 'tem as
in„,.h as hos even to nseiition their wants. Be r,
p.
;rie4 an eloquet:t speech, by Obserrift, that he 6..
ir Ted the nicaburt was !Meer recommended by the Com o.
lout by 31r. Peereval. lu the Stllle way as Le 1..„t
raised the cry of No Popery, he muted to raise the en, ..;
scarcity ; for what propose he could beat tell ; hut to, iss
part he believed there um Do sc4raity, and be should rote
decidedly against the measure.
Mr. Wt t.LI Ast bona opposed the measure, as be cue.
eeived it would Le of wr public adireatage
Mr. WE re iturly.rteot the lineltUre 00 the groii:o!
that the aermuity f the pi roma peewit warranted the out. I.
knee, of the Leg.s'atare
Mr. Wu 'Tan e • D emplained.
Lord BlastN 1, heady replied, tool nr;13,4 in oppt..r.t,ci
to thy arrnaurnts Advanced b) the 44%04.44rib of ttr ttUld
it:tercet, is coutrailsetim to the CuillitituAtif snit ot tLe
cumin.

Colo.uel Nl'LLota sopported trimly the dearest iorerrit,
tuglatial—.4o..o he made use.f such so rupresso.mr hs
alluded to the sip teuin.ut auteresto 4 the comets,
The gamines um then loudly called ter, u hen the owe.
ben 1141111=

Fur go.at iut" the Committee.
Agatual

Majority for Ministers av
Vim our sithuittsuce to the gallery, we fensini the Mane
in a Coesuuttee se the Bill. Alter souse 001iti116110441 fr.e•
Mr. M sirrearso, the CHANCEL LUIt of tie Est Ht
QUASI, and several other %qui, is, it us, tiutterstuotl
the Committee be resumed sits freitay 110%1.
On the eisitiou tot tsr. Se rat DAN, the fattier eur.si.:is.
sties of the Mutioa uu the Carnatic was postponed ma.;
Wednesday nest.

Souse utier twinev was them disposed of, sod at Two
o'cLoci. die House adjourned.

THE BRITISH PRESS.

InN DON,
TUESDAY. MAY ::4.

The TelegraA, last night, announce:l tl.e rm.
vat of an Officers itii dispatches frosts Sir RictiAltil
STIACHAN. iu the Mediterranean.

Last night, in the House of Commons, the ti,,,-
tion for going into a Committee upon the it1:1 ;3
prohibit the use of Corn in the distilleries,
opposed. A debate ensued, which lusted uoi:l
two o'clock this morning, and on a division the
motion was carried by a majority of only 36 in
favour of the Minister. The principle argument
urged by the friends of the Minister was the ne-
cessity of affording relict to the West India
Colonies.

Captain PETAL, and the brave crew of the Prince
Ernest, have given a fresh proof of the spirit whidi
pervades the Falmouth Packets. On the 1!;th of
March, in the Cacibbeaa Sea. Captain Pt rng
in with a Freed' schooner privateer of 10 guns. and
full of men, which he fought in close action fur
three hours. rad beat off. On the 20th, the packet,
thus gallantly preserved, arrived at Jamaica. We
regret to udd, that this honourable access was not
obtained without bloodshed : Captain Purim and
three of his brave fellows were wounded.

The Artist, Excise cutter, has captured Les Deit r
Freres, Peru a privateer, and sent her into

mouth.

Among the articles which we gave )esterday, re-
&lies:wig the recent einitigea in the Guverimsent of
Spain. lie noticed two letter', one from BONA-
'AMT. and another from the old King of SPAIN
to the Primmer of AsttAlas; they are given in the
harit page. awl will be found to furiiii,!, internal
evi-
drnce. that dimomtmtes the late revolution, in
that count sy. to be the work of BONAPAATE. Th!
Irtt.•r nr

" be removal of Ike Pence of Pt ACI opvcarzti to se
to In owe. s.sr) for the pr.speruty of His StAar.ery aad that
Of bts subjrets. Ihe adiors ut. the Natio 14.0 l retard:A

jourto y

A~:iin,

', I tame fietreatly espreesed • desire, that the Paercs
at the Pr AC mauled trout aura ; the t; ea •
ship of kin Cliante. bus ales induced me to rC111.44•
Went, and to two away us) eyes from the asaltams of La
comity t.'•
Again.

"{Then Kind fa alums made ass acquainted with OJc
events af last October, I was mods affected by Oral ; au i I
think that by any rifkip. of dos Ereursal racva,
a happy isaaa Your Rn al Nieman was ouch to '
tid a4sdiu.

" tour !loss! Wetness twist distrust ail pupular ears.

•otiuua aud moan.. holm A MN of my withers may I.t
tourikreA, loot the .oi.juithou of. Spam ,boll !as tba 141. •• •

qt:elorr u(tt

re It is admitted, that BONAPAT.T:".
far ',A •••• •s October last. actually intericmi id

:Si ,1 A

•
11.1. . ,te-nrnent, Viat to ill,Nnteti 11:•Ull the

:u.:% al w: tLe I'mue llinkter, afiti

fairs, ;AA wish a ittc.la:.:e that ht:

intLC t;:e tir,t pu:,lthr ilkturthig.re, I,t t%lodi 4

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