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codiere up is time. He freely confesse3 that he
ht the matter had been afterwards excessively
"b:70.,e....that too - many barrack' had been built
.41 he was therefore very glad that so many had
bee, reduced; but entirely to get rid of those
„lila were commodious and serviceable, which
meld not be immediately replaced when wanted,
sad which had been built at a great expense. he
thought limpid be penny wise and pound foolish.
With respect to the barrack-masters,•if they now
turned out those who had been some time iu the
loam they must make them some allowance;
buthiug, therefore. would be gained by turning
them oat to till up the appointments with half-pay
viten; besides, he much doubted whether half-
qie7 Caymans could be found to accept of the sp.
postments, except, indeed, such as might have no
imitative of returning to the service, sad refold leek
to these places as eomfoetsble reheating.
Mr. HMIs said, he was glad the ralant officer
.bad manned him of the barrack emsbliehoispt at
Dwelt. It was a private house, end they knew
the houses at Brecon could not be very large;
what number it would hold he could not say, but
he might venture to affirm that there had sot been
. fifty soldiers in it during the whole of last year.—
Now what was the charge for that ostablibment ?
Only IL for repairs, it was true; but 1631. • year
fee taking care of such a house. That might be
• Wow as e•fair sample of the system of imp/odium
in efferent ports of the country, and it was ea
the view of each lagrant abuses that he called on
tieCommittre to compel the Ministers to a more
. economical arrangement, by diminishing the sup.
• plies. At Casterbury there were barracks for the
ilisiors chord in the ordnance estimates at 3,0001.;
dips apoift barracks for the regulars, both horse
6 mom 41111ott was a temporary wooden barrack
ffitallid4lese was a charge io the estimates of
. • lid yang 3,0001. for repairs. He understood
...,,-. pMfaillibilad been made for removing that. but it
' • .11tH •• • proper to keep it up at that it:trove-
expense. he could only believe, for the
etinfluence. the barreek.moster having, he
• some connexioa at head-quarters. There
'A she been a sum of 10.000/. expended on the
.. barracks is the King's Mews.—(Hear, bear.)--They
had Mee perfectly aware of troops being placed
•.' , these; bet who had ever thought of such an ex-
J; pulse? Those barracks, too, meet almost imam-
.. distply be pulled down to make rootn fur the itn.
;...:' plitements in that part of the town; so that the
r ~ Isomm. sum he had mentioned would have been
..';• • .ffilleinvaway for one year's lodging for those troops.
l' Allifiliwlted the Committee would support him in
t. • 1110104100.010 Is eampel the Ministers to reduce
lib sharp.
111. W. Sturm said it was so difficult, upon the
• •
WIIIIMies to be derived from the mere perusal of
Alio laid before the Home, to go into the de-
. • Inilettrty branch of the estimates, that in attempt-
,. iwg it • man could hardly help falling into mis-
.,- Wtasi, which were thrown back into his teeth, and
hsobod at by the Gentlemen opposite, whose sole
bosom it was to understand these thins. He did
-0- let bow how many barracks them were, nor where
they were situated ; he could not. therefore, draw
any inference on that account as to the extent of the
necessity for such • son as was bass set dorm.
Bat this he did know, that in shit estimates ea the
table the charge for breed. meets and forage for
the whole of the troops in Great Britain, 25,000
mien, he believed, was 101,7001.; sad the (sum
charged for the repairs of barracks was 60,6001.
Now it was only by comparing these large items in
the groom with esch other, that he could form any
judgment as to their propriety ; and he would say,
that soy person proposing to provide foe a certain
robber of the poor of any parish, who should frame
an estimate wherein the charge for repairs of the
places in which they were to be lodged ehoold bear
•the same proportion to the charge for their bread sod
mest,as in this case the charge for barrack repairs
bore to that for the breed, meat, sad forage for the
troops, would be looked upon as • madman.
Mr. ARBUTHNOT said, if the Hon. Member for
4...
?..' Norwich had been present when the grain for the
Commissariat department was under !consideration,
he could not possibly have fallen into the mistake
he had now made. If he looked at page 3, of
the estimates, he would there find the charge for
,i bread for the troops, io places where the price did
f. not exceed 6d. per loaf, to be 49,6461. 16e. 10d. ;
and that for meat, where the price did not exceed
ko 6d. per lb., to be 99,293/. 13s. gd., which being
;• paid for by stoppages out of the pay of the soldier.
;.. was voted in the Army Estimates ; and of the sum
which lie had mentioned only 1,0001. was for bread
and meat, which was charged here for the public
amount of the excess in those places where the
price exceeded the amount stopped from the
soldier. The rein oder was 100,0001. for forage
for the cavalry, and 001. for camp supplies. which
at\he
were not stopped from „soldier, and remained to
be provided for in this place. A return of the
number of berracks, where situated, sod the ex.
pense of repairs in each, might have been had if
moved for; but not being called for, be had not
procured it.
Sir J. NEWPORT complained of the practice of
allowing officers in any department to incur a !knee
expense without a previous estimate mentioned by
the Treasury, which appeared to him to have been
the case is. the barrack department.
Mr. ARBUTHNOT said, the estimate was not for
expenses which had been incurred, but for the pro.
bable expense in the ensuing year; and was drawn
up in the absence of the Comptroller, by the next
officer of the department, who calculated on nearly
the same as last year's expense.
Mr. R. SMITH said, the charge of 10,0001. for
the barracks in the Mews. being a part of the
63,000/. of last year's expense, and haring been
incurred under circurostauces which could not be
expected in occur again, was in itself • reason why
the reduction propo.ed by the Hon. Member fur
Aberdeen should be made.
Mr. ARBUTHNOT said, the estimate had been
drown in the barrack-office, and forwarded to hiss,
before the determination to transfer the barracks to
the ordnance department was known, and he was
wrong, perhaps, under these circumstances, in mov-
ing the whole grant. He should therefore agree to
to the amendment of the Hon. Member for
Aberdeen.
Mr. H. G. Baxasre said, the intention of his
Honourable Friend (Mr. Hume) had beers to move
a reduction of 10,0001. on the two amounts, of sale..
iiro to barrack-masters 27,0001, and barrack I