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Appendix, No. 4.

Examination of Mr. Thomas Parnell, lakes on oath, berme
the Parliamentary Commissioners of Inquiry, at their
office in Dublin, us the 30th No►ember, HMI.
Yo• are a member of the Hibernian Society?-1 am •
measlier of the Sunday School Society for Ireland.
You have turned your migration a good deal to the getter.'
educalies or ;he people of this tomalley ? —Yes, I have.
IS;a:c what efieele you thank are pi °deiced by the exist.
ence of the duties upon the lama 'alio° of books, sad the
deffiesion of educations generally in this country'—With re-
spect to the book trade, ine Commissioners must be swim,
that at the time of the Dojos there was a cossidetaokal-
tera:twe took plate. i• consequence of the extension of the
eetoer4iit to Ireland : that, no doubt, bed the effect very
much to eleteekente the trade is thin count, y ; I have met
it, s goorsiog five ameogst Isle most respectable booksellers
or Ddblio, sod they ill owed to me that it bad that 'fleet,
and I conceive myself, that the book trade .• almost semi-
lirleteel, as to woe* I may term the urigioal book trade, the
pi is•iug, and psblishtug, excepting mimpbatts•nd
bolts,ke. lu conseciseuce of .bat I conceive th..t we most
look lu Esgia•d Cue a supply of books ; sad the e'reame
stances seder whin; that supply is isiataioed I love some
knowledge of, from be•og eunneried with the Hel roes
Tract and Book Soe'ety fur 'reflood, which is 'sublimed for
the purpose of enrimmeriog to supply seuoula viten tracts.
The duties operate is ibis slimmer as a restriction upon the
circula ;Ms of books in this country; lucre is • drawback
allowed •pus all books imported from Leedom into Mrs
country, of Ihreeepeuee per putted, which world appear in
the first I•,taaee as a raw ,hut it operates much to
the 04"11 of the tradesome, particularly when the uouks
come r• small petrels ; there has bee* • wok pobliebed,
railed •' IBMs jar comforting Sunday Schools ; the spent
is Dahlia of Messrs. Baldwin and Craduck, seat to us to
•ratios that the sale had been very large is Loudon, we had
seat 'hem Guar hundred a few wombs ago, sod he begged
that some more might be sent; we sent ahem two betide ed.
aad upon the (whole six hundred we had to pay teree.penee
per pound. if we applied for the drawback, we should
have had to pay about thirty shillings for the stamp end
the hood, we should then have had to employ an agent at
Holyhead, but we found it cheaper to pay the duty,
rather rhe• to incur the expense of the drawback. There
must always be an toeonveuiesee M staking so e•lry in the
Custom Horse ■t Holyhead; sad cm the other kind,
books coming from liugisad are subject to the Customs
duty in Diehl's, that in fact depresses every thing like a
trade is small parcels of books. Nue, a an haters tumidly
like this, I should roissider it peculiarly injurious, fur an the
country they chiefly deal i■ small parcels; to larce
tisdessnes cm afford !obey ens large wholesale scale; is this
(cmity, orders are fieemeutly for a smell number, and the
boukselkm here mast be seder considerable loss, sad will be
so as lure as the duties are kept on. I conceive that is the
way the duties operate. as fhr as Imo bare, and I have had
some experience myself. With regard to the copyright, there
is one insisoce I can emotion, the Bishop of Ksplare, Dr.
Magre's work, on the Atonement; it is not peiuted in Dah-
ill', if it was, i; would ne et a loss, the work probably would
nut pay the prissier; bet is Londou it meets with great
sale. The mune:isles the booksellers form thioeghout Eng.
land creole them to sell books to • very great extent;
conceive, therefore, I am jussifyed in mimetic, that men of
talent is Ireland, will not pint a book is Dublin; so that the
t•ar'e, by one eircemetseee or soother, is uesrly seerhilmcd.
The gentlemen silo met woe this morning, were Me. Lindell,,
Mr. Niece, Mr. Maher, Mr.Cemeni,ig,sud Mr. taillike's. I
have before ore a• abstract from the may and post towns i■
Ireland, prepared by Ouse bee patinae., who deal ►ery
largely, iespectieg the trade of booksellers in Ireland. I •
heed a is. it has bees dune is haste, but I believe it to be
aecurate.—[The witness delivered in the same]—From that
paper it will appear, Mitt there me eleven eoestiesia Moe'
land in which there is note single bookseller; there maybe
• certaiu emerip:iosi of booksellers, but 1 mean those that
■rs recognised by those in the trade; I wish therefore to be
cor►ect,iu this aeceent. I do out mean to say this cert.
taies a list of all base who sell books, because hardware-
toes ■ad grocers sell hawks. The common mode of getting
hooks is I,el•ad, the hoed of books the peasantry buy for
their children, is through the means of grocers and hardware.
men ; they keep a shelf for what they mill Berton's, and
Spelliug-books, sod Aline's' ks, and books of that kind.
They caauut of coarse be considered booksellers. 1 his [pro-
ducing a bunk] is a Report et the Sunday School Society, by
which it appears, that in Ireland atone, there are 1,3113
schools, and they •re pi iseipally supplied by the Society In
Dublin, with Spelling Books sold out of their owe stores;
and the Society in Kildare-place, who receive a overawed
grant of 1,0001. per year to supply their pawls, but obey
eamsot be deemed booksellers. The Baptist Irish Society
dues the same. The pour get their education from the
Spelling Books, aad they are very much left afterwards to
every description of abominable books. By referring to
the Fourterretb Report of the Padiamentary Coatmi•ioseea
oa Education, there may be collected something cowers-
Mg the state of educative in trctaud. Tbeistacesbic man.

nee in wlials the tchitiara are lauolit,and Are drseaplion of
books they read (many of them arc of the moat nefarious
kind), containing stories that lead to rvery had principle, and
that might tend to teed them to hostility stalest Ilse Covers..
meat of the country; some of them are highly tiessouable.
It would be one of the greatest booty to Ireland to oleo
the book trade. I have felt • ws.h that there was twee a
bounty upon it; but al ■ll events it might be opru.•t.
There is a most respectable friend of mine in E•Iiiolmo glI,
secretary to the Ediaborgh Tract Soesety. We sent hint a
parcel of books Ave weeks ago; he had rot, obeli be wrote
the other day, beard of them. Books are very likely to be de.
tallied in the Eostom-house, unless a persons lakes pains to
inquire concessive them; they may lie there for months.
would also adi, that I cooerive a considerable trade might
be opened between the nurt► of F.aglawl sod Scotland, with
Ibis country. Our Sunday School Society has bad e consi-
derable quantity of reports for ■ former year seized fur non.
payment of the duties, owing to ignorance and inattention;
they are now at Holyhead; they were meat to a gentleman
at Bath, who acted for a society auxiliary to our Sunday
School Society, and it was of great importance to or, that
lists of the subscribers should be circulated there; he sent
those reports, and he wrote a short time afterward, to state
that he had nut received them; audios inquiring *Per them,
found they were seized at Holyhead. 1 meutios that, to
shew the vexation of those restrictioas. There is soother,
perhaps, important matter, to thew how the priwieg trade
moat wand at present in 'miasma. I
understood that there is
nut a single type founder is all Ireland. There is a person,
I understand, who mends types. I have sera very small
week of books that came from London; !bat slices ;hey
will make exertions to procure boob. On the whole, I have
no doubt that the Number of schools have increased, most es-
pecially wilbio these few years, sod we mast voureeve that
boob are sitssolotely necessary fur the 4-teddies, educate•l, awl
that the somber of hooks imported are bet few; we have
established a Tract and Book Society. lost the steamily they
supply is very few. THOS. PARNELL.

Appendix, No. 5.

Examiaatine of Mr. Alderman West, goldsmith and jewel:
ler; take. us oath before the Parlimment,ry CURIMM.
sinners of inquiry, at their office in Dublin, on the 9.11
November, 1821.
la what trade are you coweerned?—Tbat of a goldsmith
and jeweller, including watches and plated ware; every
tlihig in that lime. _

Huw lung save you carried on that basioess!—On my
own account about twenty years.

la that as importation trade chiefly ?—Chicfly so, as re.
Buds certsis articles.
Jlistioguish what part is importation trade ?—Watches,
entirely importation; plated goods, entirely impurtatitni;
jewellery, the greater peoporriou; silver plate, sot so much;
plate we get priaripally made here.
Are all which are import►d sow subject to the ten per cent.
duty?...No; watches are subject only to a Mullin au ounce
British on the weight of the cases, which may be spins tbs
average about two shillings a watch.

Flow ewers that duty to have bee, so charged ?—I moot
tell w►y the liberal iun was made, but it was daunty tier the
Act of Union, as well as I ram retralhet, that all articles of
plate, whether gold or silver, were only to be subject to rine
shilling an uuuce, and that watch work was considered to he
free; it is so encourage the nosnufarriory of watches la Eng-
laud that the nark of watches does sot pa• ally 'biog. and
that t►e duly is uuly ea she weight of I ire cases; and to en-
courage that trade is London. or soy pail of Loglaud, I
believe no duty is paid on the eases.
Is there any drawback of the plate duty osi watches?—
No, I think they are exported duty.free (iota Eaglasd; or
there say not be a drawback, his case being conoected with
the works.

Is that which you pay on importation of watches equal to
the internal duly you pay here on silver ?—Ycs, within a
peony. In England all other articles of plate tint have
nothing else cosaerted with limn, any thing ant silver or
gold, pay one shilling sod 'armee ea met, sad when
catered lime a sbilliag is paid, but we get a drawback of
the eighteen pence, that is
Yon do Nor get any drawback in England fur the wolcb
eases?—We do not; consequently I thi,.k there was no duly
paid on importation to foreign parts.
There is an application of your, to the Treasury, dated is
11121?—These is.

That is upon the general subject of the duties, hut parti-
cularly as ii affects your trade; and your complaist is, that
plate (when any uncial has silver or gala is connected with
it), jewellery, sad plated ware, are attbjeet to she ten per
emit. duly?—They are.
It was referred, as you are probably aware, lo the COI.
tones in Ireland, and to the Camara is li.ogland, and they
leave repotted, that Its 'heir p•actire the articles of jewellery
and plate are not usually heel/Jed under the head of hard-
ware, and therefore rut sobjece to toe Ira per (est. duly, are
you •aare of the, !—I am not aware of thee, because I have
paid • great deal of duty situ• IN/.
lan consequiroes of this report of the Casio:no upon your
petition, hive the Treasury dose any thing?—No; I called
about three weeks ago at else Treasury its London, upon two
meunu►isb I bad addreased, ore that just allotted 10, and
She other regarding our being permiited to enter old plate
duly free, wily as luggage; amid I learnt front the Secretary
that the memorial which I had seas in, relative to She era
per eeni. duties ou articles of jewellery, Ice. had berm seat eat
the Parliamentary Commissioners here; that the other,
which regarded old plate, was held over; and it did eqt ap-
pear ihat they had seat t►me bete; they said they did at like
to go into a■ abstract question, that they worth' rather,
thoegh they thought the prayer ought to be considered,
leave it eu the Commirsiorters here to determine upon it;
that related to permitting goldsmiths, in common with others,
so been over old piste without the payment of duty, the
✓OW as by the bands of private persona.
Yee moll continue to pay the ten per rest. duly cm plate
and plated 4014101?-1 do, on jewellery and plated goods.
When did yaw make the last muerte! of Om ten per rest.
duty ten auy art.eles?—Weihin these three weeks.
Are there mauy manufacturer of plated wase in Ireland!
—Noise of any articles ibm goldsmiths sell ; there are ma.
nefactu.es coustreted with she coach trade, in bits and spurs,
sod ddierent things of that description, in a small way, but
none of the Sheffield work; there la uo Sheffield plated ma-
tters, tut y to Dublin.

That is a manufsctory by itself, is it sot ?—lt is on cop.
per; the Oilier is 011 steel or iroa.
Is there mach of that un steel or iroo?-1 do Dot whisk
there is, because the hope/tattoos from E.ighted are so con-
siderable by wholesale horns here.
there is no msaufactory of the description of articles in
which yon deal?—No.
Is Mc se aoy usaitufactory of watches?—None whatsoever;
there may be you.; men is the trade, apprentices, to order
to improve themselves, who go through tire making of •
arceli, but siot at a factory; there bas not been for many
pars sorb • I hing.
How tun Is It piece there was a vannufactoty of watches
here?-1 'oppose ass these fifteen years.
Was there, previoos to the theism, to any eldest ?—No;
there was no'fictury peetrion• to the U slow ; bet almost every
watehanOterunade watches for himself; there was stu general
factory; rite making of them has erased these ifteeo years.

Dalt exist to any extent at as, lice'—ho; greet part
of ibt works were &large obliged to be Imported floor
Ea/timid.

What is the reason of that ?—The 'machinery is so expen-
sive for msakiug wheels sod rutting grouses, nu one will go
to the expellee of having such • thing here; here • man wall
go *bough the waking of am entire watch; in England there
may be fifty persons to wake • watch, and the person that
makes the sue will not 'wake the other; the case and dial
lake tea difrerest people.
Is there suy jewellery made beret—There is.
Sale of what species?-1 amok there may be about forty
persons in Dublin disiribuitd 10 different work-shops, 0011
oar having fire, sad asnalher four, sad smother three, and to
au; but 1• • very small nay, out such as tan be called •
factory.

Do you Ibis& lltere are • !misdeed hands ahogetber em-
ployed iv that way ?-1 du nut doubt, taking in lapidartes,
and ern, one rounected with it, Wele renirbt be; but 1 tbiuk
the male number uf people would be employed a the duties
we►e taken uf.

In what branches or the jewellery trade are they employed?
—Priur.patly iu uutkiug articles to order, or tar as their

romp:leg or ;weans will admit ; the workg 1112 i ore done in
the hand rather lb.' by din er engine leering, roe we
no etia.ae, re, to mete 'elicits to maids. • family might
have two or her ti.i.sga of Eog'mb tomeufzelose, aid they
nay ',in.., I 1) 1.31,11 eur them; sod lien we Lit 'ay Haag
ovule hue mar ire cam get for ropeemieoce.
Wait do you sopoirao to be site proptem;wet of jeweller/
impor ed and jeweller, made is !related of firm which it
treed a 1 .land?-1 'oppose it oral be at least Mee huodred
to ooe, uecsuse all the espees•ye jewellery WINS from Eng.
land.

What ineinthrtoriee ire tlicrr of plate?—There are about
the a.nie member of hands peilit:4 engaged in the maw
facture of plate.

IM what a .rt of srlirin are they chilly engaged?...
Waiters, cops, and tea sets, and dishes.
Nut Tor order, but fur sale cenerally ?—Fur both, piaci.
pally to have in the tamps rtady fur sale.
What proportioh of the plain do you thMk ward in ',timid
is onanufactsred n Irehind?-1 ;lima of the piste the slag*
sell, there is a bundled to one snore male is lielssd I i).14
comes from E„Nla ;of oil hinds or •i4er plate, that th.it
is a hundred pounds worth wanufactused its teemed fe•
every pomaJ that comes from Eor'audjast the stymie of
what it is is jesielery.
. .

How is that eun.sisteet With the number of bands you
have staled?—ln plates hundrrd meo eau do so Much more
work than a hued. ed mes rau in jewelle. s; the awnunt of
jewellrry imported a much more eunsidsrau'e by ►hupkeepert
as well as whirs; bat altupkeepe.s du nut import stuck
wrought plane.

Is ii coaliced to Dublin ?—No, there is a 'manufactory ;s
Cork; "bit is Ilse only part of Irelsimi that me gel ep plioe
Imam to the Hall, to he nicked; but ihe Tonality of plate
inannfactared in Irelead ran be ascertained exactly at Gnhl•
smith's Hall.

Caa the quantity of plate imported for private woe be at.
curtained?—Nu, that csamot be ■scertauted; I bare au doubt
there is a Kam deal imported for private use; 1 tefer to that
imported for the shops.
it your opinion that tire place which is imported for
the use of !reload is equal to that made is Ireland ?-1 thihk
it is.

Tak;arg it altogether ?—1 am sure It is.
Ha►iug gore through loss several heads of plated ware,
watches, jewellery mid plate, is which you deal, what effert
would be produced upon your trade, or wpm those several
branches of you► trade, be the removal of the duties that
bear upon the tutrreusoae between the two countries?-mil am
cosvioced at would enable vs to have ■ll the articles that
now pay the duty considerably under the prices that we at
presets: ply, avd put us on a per with Ike person selling the
same descriptior of aiiieles iu f.siglawd:

Milt effect world the remora) of she ten per cent. duty
produce spots the plated ware; you topsider that as a las
'Temkin epos use country ?—Extetly; as article which
would otherwise stand la Urn idailliugs we are obliged to
charge at eleree *Wilkes, in coosrq of the duty.
It would •Ifeet no esailiifielory?—No:_

As to watches?—lt would mike the difference only of 2..
a watch; bet if it was by the coasting laws, watches and
every alloy else could be got over so south cheaper, if they
were nut to go through the Custom-home soy mere than they
have upon impurtatouu into Scotland, people from England
would come over here seitie their goods to our door, at their
own risk and expenses, aud then we could get them so much
cheaper, bed have a greater chnuce; that is owe of the things
that certain shopkeepers here, sad other people, dread, be-
Cause they say, ilist if they were got over here so cheap,
the stock we bay. at present will be of so mad ler value.
(77. M cawflastsd.)

The Kelso coach was overturned near Black-
Aids, on its way to Edinburgh, on Monday last,
■nd, most providentially, although there were six
inside and nine outside passengeis, not one indivi-
deal was hurt ! The coach, which is now replaced
by another, was broken to pieces. The horses were
uniiijored. The ■cc•dent, we learn, was caused by
one of the horses starting at sight of an ass on the
side of the road.

Them thirty-uine unfoitunste convicts under
sentence of death io Newgate, •nd the Report is
expected to be made in ■ day or two. From the
enormity of their crimes, it is *apposed that rine
or ten will sutler death. At present they appear
truly penitent, and seem reconciled to the fate that
awaits them.

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