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collected fruinyou that I had reason to hope.

• Q. 11 tve 1. by word or action, tin eu )ou roma
to hope 1 have collected so much from you.
Q. Would not Mrs. Clarke engage with you,
without Major Doild's security ?—A. Yes; Major
Dodd was never mentioned, as to the inquiry, and
be never Wal concerned in it; but if you wish to
press this question, I will be obliged to express
what I would not wish to relate.
Dir. Arroase Ey Ges ram. —We want the
truth, and nothing else; we don't went dark an-
swers; we want the Jury to bl.t►egnaiuted with all.
I will ask you a question: Now came Major Dodd
nn the expedition to the Martell° towers?--A.
before I ever saw Mrs. Clarke. I had agreed with
Majors Dodd and Dleniiie to take that tour.
Mr. AT MANZI' • GENKRAL....I desire an an-

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flat time Major *Dodd's name was
mentioned before- Airs. Oat ke, she concealed cir-
cumstances that even you would give me credit for
not di.closiag.
Q. Did Mrs. Clarke know that Major Dodd
was concerned in the Inquiry?—A. Never.
Q. Was it net in consequence of some request of
11Irs. Clarke, in some circumstances in which Major
Dodd's name was Mentioned, that produced his
introduction ?—A. It was in consequence of what
Mrs. Clarke had said of hint and other persons.
Q. Is not tilojor Dochl.ll friend of your'd
Yes, and an unfortunate one, for be has Isst J,qllol.
per annum his friendship.
Q. I should wish to know this meArry that you
are so loth to dissolve:—t. Mr.. barke stated at
my first interview, tiro St ii.,r D,ild had said, if site
gave evidence or made a disclosure, it would be
her ruin. 1 brought lira lettercontradieting that re- ,
pert. She elven gave me information, which I hope
and trust you will not ask me to relate, it would
indeed be a painful task. lie turned round to the ,
Noble and Learned Jude, and said My Lord,
it relates to'the Royal I. amily."
Mr. Al manor-GEN EttAl.—" I wm I have it, for
you cannot do thew wore mischief than you have
done."
Loyd EI,LENSOIIOcGtI—." It becomes a duty on
Inc to stop this kind of evidence, if it is lint relevant
to the (.46e.. It is my duty to protect the. lowest
subject from slander, and surely the Voyul Family
is entitled to the same protealon."
Mr. WAILDLII—" It as quite irrelevant to the
case."

By the ATT3ENLY-GEWERAL.
Q. You stated, that you tweer mentioned to Mrs.
Clarke, that the Duke of Keut was acquainted
with the busions of the inquiry. Did not you ad-
vise Francis Wnght to sue his (;oval Highness the
Duke of Yotk for Mrs. Clarke's old debt ?—.A.
I never did; when Wriaht was pressing Mrs. Clarke
for the money. I said, if it was his Royal Highness's
debt, he ought to pay it.
Q. Were you iii the /la!! during the trial ? did
you not communicate with yoor Attorney ?and were
not Major Uodd and Giennie With you ?—A. I was
in the Dill, or at the tavern. the Kiug'. Arms. 1
received wntten communientione from my Solicitor,
woe of which was, that Mrs. Clarke had ',want that
I promined to pay for the furniture, in the preemie
of Major Dodd ; I exclaimed .4 then I wrap sure of
a verdict, as Ma or Dodd could relon her evi.
dence." Majors MU and Glennie were with we ;
the former tientlennso only was s:fhplesed.
Mr. GLZ*OL then re-examined Col. Wardle.
Q. To whom did Col. Wardle give the note he
sent into Court to Cortield ---A. To a person of
the name of Macallum.
ity Lord Et.t.aosoitoretn.
Q. What reavon do you amigo fur giving the
triple set eF holes to Illingworth ?—.l. Because I
di.! not vtivb to be answerable for the money.
Q. But why resort to this scheme, if your own
Note woolal have answered the vim& purpose ?-..
A. Because I could then have had no recourse on
Mrs. Clarke.
Q. Did you think that recourse worth a forthing,
kinmilig she %1111. a married woman I—A. I thought
it better that the claim upon her should be in the
liaiide of n third party, as they could with hater
glrdler endeavour to procure the money, and would
be inure likely to succeed ilian I wouid.
Q. Did you gave he: ail more than the 1201.
you have stated ?—A. Nothing more.
Q. Nor make her any promises of rensoneration ?
—A. No. I never held nut any reward to her, but
what she would be likely in receive from a public,
grateful fur her services. in standing forward in
their cause.
MAJOR DODD.
here the examioation of Colonel ‘Vardte closed,
and the next witness called wow Major Dodd,
who. breug sworn, sad interrogated by Mr.CI.EADE,
deposed, that
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. wits ft Cdpiain in the Royal Artillery ; first
saw Mn. Clarke on thr .2Gth Lkcesnber ; thrsamr
day on which he, Col. Wardle. Mr. Glennie. and
Mrs. Clarke set nut tsr Ilythe. on their visit to the
Martell. Towers.—.-lie went down to Illthe with
thous, sod immediately returned.
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this exitinntiutt was "going ie., lOtal hut•
zas from the Hell, occasioned by the populace
cheering Mr. Wardle, were so predominant, that
the busiest*, ut the Court was interrupted. Lord
ELLEN BOROUGH immediately (tweeted the Under-
Sheriff to clear thu Hall, and lonig before him any
person he could find making this noise, in gross
.viulatiou of all that decorum clue to a Court of Jus-
lice. The Court waited till the return of this
facer, as his lordship declared lie would never
antler the cause of justice to proceed,while clamour
and riot could affect their conduct. •

On the return of the Under-Sheriff his Lordship
observed, that he would hold him or his principul
responsible for every act of this reprehensible dv-
scnption, which it was in the power of an efficient
posse roxitalsis to prevent. It was too much the dis-
position of the present day, by riot and clamour to
interfere with the institutions of the country, brit
while he held that seat, he would never permit such
indecorous proceedings to take place withinthe limits
atria authority. Whoever should be found acting
thug, be would fine most severely, and commit to
Newgate for the oll'ence.—lt was Intolerable, and not
to be endured, and he trusted what he now .said
would have the effect of procuring a sufficient po-
lice, to check such disorders in future, and to bring
the perpetrators to justice.
The examination of Major Dodd was then pro-
ceeded in, and he stated, that he Raw Mrs. Clarke
again on the Ist of December ; that on that day
he went with her and Colonel 11'ardle in a coach
towards Holborn ; that in going or coming, he
could not recollect which, she proposed to them to
call at her upholsterer's ; in consequence of this,
they called at Mr. IVright'e, in Hatlibone-place,
where they saw Daniel Wright, the upholsterer,
up stairs. There was no man present ; but a man
came in occasionally with carpets, as patterns.
Mrs. Clarke pointed out some window-curtains,
which she saitl were given to het. by the Duke of
York, in Gloucester-place; also some chairs,
which she said were either the same or similar to
what were to be sent into her house; also some
chair-corers, which she said she had painted her-
self, and were making up into furniture for her.—
He thinks he was close to Mrs. Clarke all the tune
they were at Wright'., and did not recollect her
introducing Colonel 11'srdle, as the gentle-
man wno was to pay for the furniture, or even
her introducing him at all. Nothing passed,
in his hewing. to cause a belief thet Colonel
IVardle was to furnish the home. They staid only
a few minutes at W'right's, not more than ten.—
He accompanied Mrs. Clarke once, and only once
more to. Wright's ; they were alone. The object of
the visit was to expedite the furnishing of the house.
tie was never applied to by Mrs. Clarke to procure
a loan of money from Col. Wardle, but he did join
in procuring for her a loan she granted. He was
never by whet such Irian was mentioned in con-
versation with Col. Wardle. lie knew of Ming-
worth's giving IYright an acc,rptance for 5001.,
and that lie and Col. Wardle gave lllingworth
their acceptances for 2301. each, as his security.
lie never at at any time heard Colonel Wardle say
lie would furnish the house in Westbourne-place,
or giro cause for believing he would do so ; Colonel
11"ardle, on the Ist of December, did not. directly
or indiretly, in his hearing, make himself liable for
this furniture ; he was at this period Prierste Se-
rretary to his Royal Highness the Duke of Nerd,
and also held another appointment of conside-
rable euialuinent ; he had relinquialud the former.
and could riot state on what day; this dismissal
front the letter might be the subject of future in-
qiiiry iu that Court, situ theVefore he did not feel
himself called upon to particularize the circum-
YtiIIICCIII connected• with it. Mr. Clarke looked at
several patterns of carpeu. ■nd asked his and Co-
loud Wardle's opiniobs upon them, which they
gave, but he never heardjblis. Clarke say, that she
would take any particular pattern, as they were to
pay for the carpet.

C'rose-efay4issed GARROW.
Q. Did you knuw of the investigation, as it has
been called, into the conduct of the Oukr of York,
froM Colonel Wardle, before you were introduced
to Mits. Clarke?,—(To this question some legal ob-
jections wire taken, by the opposite Counsel, but
these were ova-ruled by the Jude, who cautioned
them agaimit making needless utlections.).—A. Yes
I did.

Q. How long before yoor introduction. had you
known of this Investigation ?—A. I do not posi-
tively kuots.---1 frequently heard Mr. Wardle speak
of inquiries into different abuses.

Q. [-led you frrquent conve►aations on the sub-
ject of this investigation ? A. Yes ; I think
had.

Q. Are you not certain they were frequent ?
A. I had some conversations. Ido not know whe-
ther frequebt or not. I think not frequent.
Q. It is tour own word. Had you conversations
ouce, twice, or thrice ?—A. Perhaps thrice.
Q. When did you lira know of Mr. Wardle's
irropositon to take Nit... Clarke to visit the Martell°
Towers ?—A. Net sooner than ens, two, or three
Jaya before we set out. I think two days.
Q. Was the smell made then ?—A. No. I had
the journey in contemplation for some time before.
Q. Did Col. Wardle explain his reasons for tak-
ing Mrs. Clarke with him ?—A. Yes; to get inform-
•atton from her on the subject he wished so much to
develop,.
Q. Did Mrs. Clarke know you were Private Se-
cretary to the I)u•.e of Kent ?—A. I do not know.
I cannot answer that question, whether she did or
not. Very probably she was told so.
Q. flow long were you on the tour ?—A. From
the Itirli to the .loch of November.
Q. De you mean to stake your credit, that Mrs.
Clarke :lid not know yogi were Secretary to the
Duke of Kent ?—A. She might know.
Q. Did she return to town ignorant of that fart?'
—A. Certainly not. The impression on my mind
is, that she might not know it before the journey ;
but she must have known it after that.
Q. Was there any conversation then during the
journey to lead her to this knowledge ?—A. There
certainly was; by which abc could not fail to un-
derstand so.

Q. Were there conversations in pursuit of Mr.
Wardle's inquir against the brother of your Itnyal
Master ?—.4. No ! they took place about the dis-
turbances at Gibraltar.
Q. Ibul you ewer charge Colonel Wartne with
any message to Mre.Clarke?—A. Never.

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Vou took nA3 iniere,t in tlic inVelligation
A. As much as any min in the country, wlt was a
mere spectator.
Q. Did yon give Colonel Wardle any informa-
tion to assist him in his inquiry?—A. I gave him
often my opinion on military subjects.
Q. Did Sou give him tiny infraustion to as.ist
him in his inquiry must repeat the ipte.tion.—
A. I gave him my opinion on the investigation.
Q. Did you give him what was meant to he as-
sistance?--A. I do not know how he received it.

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Q. Did you see hint daily during the investiga-
tion ?—A. I saw him frequently, but not daily.
Q. Everyday on which the investigatiou took
place, did you not see him ?—A. I saw him often.
I will not swear they were not daily.
Q. During this time, did you see him frequently
in company with Mrs. Clarke ?—A. I did.
Q. War the ingoiiry the subject of frequent con-
versations?—A. The inquiry was; but I caunot
say whether Mrs. Clarke evidence was or not.
Upon further examination, the witness stated as
follows:—"" I thought Mrs. Clarke's evidence of
great importance to Mr. Wardle; 1 never made
notes of what Mrs. Clarke said ; never was in the
House of Cornmoos dining the investigation, but
when Mr. Wardle made his motion. I did not un-
derstand Mrs. C. to be in bad circumstances; I
considered her neither• as high or low, but as able
to pay her way ; 1 knew of no impediment to our
journey to the 'Monello towers born Mrs. Clarke's
want of money, or any other cause. Mr. Wardle
told me one day--a day or two before we set out—
that she wanted money from him to pay her butcher
and baker. Mr. Wardle was a new acquaintance
of Mrs. Clarke, and had not been admitted to
her presence above a week, when she borrowed mo-
ney of him. She also borrowed money of nee, 51.,
three months after my acquaintance with her khan."
[Here Mr. CLIKROW observed, that she regularly
descended from the Colonel to the Major, and
spared the latter much longer than the former.]
"I understood Mr.Wardle had given her the mo-
ney; he (Mr. W.) being a family maw, could nut
be supposed to give her money for any thing im-
proper; he gave it her to pay her butcher and
baker, without which she could not have gone with
hini to the IMartello towers ; it was not, in my ap-
prehension, a loan. but a gift. I visited West-
bourne-place the day, or probably the day after, I
returned ; and the day after that visited Wright's,
in company with Colonel ‘Vaiille. who had given
Mrs. Clarke 1001. on three days acquaintance. I
did not pump Mrs. Clarke on our journey, nor do
I know that any one examined her; I did not Luke
interest enough in the investigation to trouble my-
self with it. Mr. Wardle was the man who exa-
mined Mrv. Clarke, arid saw from theoce that she
was indispensably necessary as a witness for him on
the investigation ; they could not miss having this
in mind while they were at Wright's. I saw expert.
sive furniture at IVright's, and afterwards saw the
same at Westbourne-place. The carpets, soli the
whole style of the articles, appeared to me to be of
the most expensive kind ; I saw this furniture in
Mrs. Clarke's house, but cannot 'toy how soon after
we were at Wright's; I do not remember ■ny fur-
niture coming in but some chairs—but the house
was gradually furnished about this time ; as far as
I could guess, it must have cost 2,0001. During
the intimry, Mr. Wardle was perfectly satisfied with
Mrs. Clarke ; she was a most important warless to •
him, and, if be could have her believed, went far to
establish his charge. Ido not recollect Mr. War-
dle's expressing his satisfaction or dissatiefuction
with her; about December I knew that Wright
wanted money, and I assisted so far iu procuring it,
as to go to Mr. Illingworth, with Mr. Wardle, to
negociste the matter. Mr. Illingworth is a person
with whom I had dealings, and was well actinainted.
Mr. Wardle told use that Wright was distressing
Mrs. Clarke, and that she. with tears in her eyes,
had implored Isis assistance. This lie had refused
her, but asked me if I knew any way by which Wright
could be accommodated ? 1 told him it was not
uncommon for one tradesman to assist another with
his bill, and I told Illingworth. that it was to ac-
commodate Wright we required his acceptance.—
We promised him to be security for his money, and
guarantee his safety. It would not have bee■ in-
convenient for me to have advanced 5001. for Col.
Wardle at this time. I spoke to Illingworth solely
to oblige Win (Col. W'.). Mr. Illingworth gave
Wright his hill for 5001., and Colonel Wardle and
I accepted ty o bills for him, amounting to 2501.
each ; when due, I paid my Lill, and Mr.- War Ile
has since repaid me; I could have paid the mo•
ney at Kest. 1 did not at once lend the 2501.,
111 I could have done. for Mrs. Clarke to go and
pay Wright, because I did not conceive Mr.
Illingworth would have drawn on me. The
inquiry had nut begun at this time. 1 knew of no
inquiries made of Mrs. Clarke or Mr. IViirdle ; no
pressing of questions by members of the I louse of
Commune, pending the investigation, to know
whether ally prowlers or inducements had been
held out by Colonel Wardle to Mrs. Clarke, for
her evidence. (On further questioning on this point
witness acknowledged) I did know from the Jour-
nal► of the House, that these inquiries had been
pressed by
,Members 014 Mrs. Clarke and Colonel
tVardle--I also understood so from Mrs. Clarke
and Colonel Wardle. After the transactioit with
Mr. Illingworth, he told we, that Mrs. Clarke bud
got wine from hini."
Q. Why did yin construct all the machiney,
and take so circuitous a route with respect to the
bills with Illingworth ?—A. I conceive the trans-
action was direct.

Q. What reason had you, but to keep the trans.
action secret, for hot sufPring Wright to draw on
you or Wardle?—A. I thought it better that Mr.
. Wardle's name should not appear. •
Q. Did not this conceal it ? but you did not
know this at the tune ; it was reserved to me to illu-
mine you.—A. If Mr. Wardle had asked me for
the loan of the money down, I would have done it.
Q. Can you assign no reason for the circuitons
route you chose to adopt ?—A. No; I have answered
already, and do not choose to answer impertinent
questions.
Q. I am not satisfied with your answers ; you do
not know whom you are dealing with, if you think so
to baffle inc ?—A. Neither do you seem to know
whom you are dealing with.
Q. Did not you pretend to have the authority
of your Royal Master for what you did, while yon
knew perfectly well that you had no such autho.

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►ity ?..ssA. tlt lie* that his Royal Highness deeply
lamented the charge against the Duke of York.
Q. Did not you know that the truth was directly
contrary to his taking any share in these detestable
proceedings?—A. Not before I went to the coast.
thought then, as Ido now, that the Doke of
Kent would always discourage this charge against
his brother.
Q. Did not you know that !se expressed the
strongest displeasure at it?—A. Yes, he always
expressed the utmost sorrow at the accusatiou
against the Duke of Yak.'
Q. And, while you were his private confidential
Secretary, you frequently, almost daily. joined the
cabal at Westbourne.pllace. to assist iu the plot
for his brother's ruin, which you knew to be so
disgusting, so hateful to your royal master I—A. I
was frequently at Westbourne-place.
-Q. You were frequently (for you like the word)
at Westbourne-place during the Inquiry ; you left
the Duke alien:, and perhaps after joining its his
expressions of regret for the accusations against hit
brother, iinmed►ately on the same' day rushcd to
Westbounie-place, to consult with his t•uewties hoe:
to effect the removal of the Royal Duke ; from
thence yon returned, reeking hot, to your injured
Master ?—A.I went front the Duke of Kent's to
my own house, and from that to Westbourne-
place, but I never returned from Westbourne
place to hisitoyal Highness.
No ; they were midnight hours. They were.
—I. My Lord. may I be allowed to explain my-
self?-1 viewed Colonel Wardle aa a patriotic Man,
and a senator coming forward to serve his cottony ;
I too have served my country twenty-nine years,
and would be ashamed of myself, should I suffer
any private views to interfere with the great and
paramount duty I owe the public. I conceive
that no 'situation or circumstance in life would
excuse me for not having resisted, as much as my
pOwer and abilities penuitted, to promote so jest
and patriotic a design as that of_Caul. Wardle."
(liiither Examined.)
The Duke of Kent knew nothing of the cabal
iu Westbournevlace.—l did not think it necessary
to leave his Royal Highness's per Vice ; I conceived
it would be iodelicate in me to mention the circum-
stance to the Duke of Kent, and never thought of
asking leave of ab►ence. I always did my duty to
his Royal Highness.
Two papers were now put iuto the witness's
hand. by Mr. Garrow.