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tint SeTI.IIM, nt its t putt .r ti.t opinion of 61
Lespired , VI/ the Nahle and Learned
I..rd en the wiaa.aek, sithautth he had express-
- ea hto opinion, had nut vett eue rtasou why be
held that olani.m.

The LORD CU Ncat.Lnn then put the usotioni
tipon which the House divided; and although we
were Jun leo:turd of .tne nitmliev4, we utnievaio id
it iviet iiegatived bye tu.ijority ponder to that on the
former question,

The Bari of HARDWICK& imm). " That the
proceeding on this BM be deferred till Monday
nest."

The Earl of DARNLEY here sngvst.ti the pro-
priety of his niotiun being first intended to, after
the Judges. had retired. having waved his priority
in compliment to them ; but now he thottAilL that
reason no !Niger existed, and it was his right to
proceed with the subject of shieli he had given
notice.

It was, however, acceded to, that the motion of
the Earl of Hardwicke, which applied to the D:stil-
latiou Prohibition, Bill being read now, be deferred
till Monday.
Lord GRENVILLE rose for the purpose of calling
their Lordships attention to the. principle of thi;
Rill, avid the mode in which it had been comforted
through its several singes in that Hume. He
must say, wit n he rethcted upon ell winch
had recently paswd, the situation of that House
became more and more a matter of serious con-
sideration. What lie had' said on a former oc-
casion, became more ui.pareut at the pri.s-nt hour ;
and what hod f Alen from him 'spoil the conduct
of Minister., as to the Judicature of Scotland,
and their (mutt minions treatment of !hat Home,
the Report of the Commissioners
apiknitited to ii:gnire into the lows of that kingdom,
was estra:-ag lutly verified on the present occasion.
R- ear tirmly pcmoaded, by a long tiliservalion,
that there woo dehh-rate and systrina4ic intention,
on the part of the King's Si want, to bring Cie

prpcierilitige of dint Heuer intiesersrepute. Th. it
Lordship,. would de aril to recollect their parttime
lac conduct Oar the retires% Bill ; thee hail called
upon the Him..r t.a veered with a Bali, which was
to sweet tree whol. of the. agricelturisti iu the king-
dom, and plea, the measure without any evidenee of
Its policy. Where great doubt had been enter-
tained, they were called upon to legilate, for the'
bill must be sirs...d, there being no time to t...ke
the opinion el Ili. Mej.-Nty's Jadges, whether it
would have the desired effect. He would cull upon
their Lordships seriou•ly to reflect, and net to
bring that House into de-graelution stilt the country.
The Bill now before them was cetisistrill with
comma§ seer.; and those who argued so much
in favour of the practice of construcliou, would
da well to remember, that there was a enteist-
eney to be preserved in legislation. If the Noble
and Learned Lord on the Woolsack had, on this
oceaeion, spoken the s'rae laueuage he did on the
Iteveumie B:II, when he said, a hatever acts of a si-
milar uature might have passed without u due re-
gard to whit w..s essential to form, stud whatever
ualgli: be ttie 4,rovisiemb of the Bid, still it became
their Lordships iit all times to attend to their own
dignity, and in tittlr nets out to admit inconsisten-
cies upon the Lice of them. Had. the Noble cud
Li-arise.' Lord iseerted the same do. trine on this
r.:bion, he sh.eiht have given him coedit rm.
greater consi.t..n-v is I i esti conduct. That ie.
stances of teimir statutes might he brimeht
forward, was • uu argument. then. on the ground
voted with reelec• to the Itever,luti Bill, that they
ahoald agree to riot ituother Bill. which. iu spite of
all the rauctiomi of fernier times, contained a uon-
sensical atm:mutat. The coecruction so much
premed. that the practice .if the courts of law• was
to eaphlin the woad 't coitir:ue," as if it really
meant both " revive and couttuur," only slieweil,
that many acts of the legislature were so atemni,
that, literally. they were nonsense ; mud the Jude,gs
t 3 give effect to what was absurd, co.'.
'trued the word " coutinue," to mesa :ilia o, revive."
Bat was thet any ratioual ground fur their Lira-
ship-. to pursue such an erroneous mode of le.isla-
tioo
? It war their duly so to frame Acts of Par-
liement, as not to leave it for the Judges to &grave
at their meanies;;, by infertruce, wheu the) could
toot ascertain it by the expressien. Was it pos.
bible to say the word coutinue" treaut also
." revive?" They were oppoeite in every
serete which cou:d ettend theta. No our est...el
in the first initielples of logic, would say they
were similar. Whets a being sexists, it, existence
tuayhe curnioned,but it impossible to continue a het
isout atoms-snit in existence. Agee, what has
ceased tie exist may be retired, but we never arm
say, that who. Min existence, may be revived. 11'llitt
is i•i existence may be cominued, suit when it
ceases to exist, it way be revived, but mire end
I-maitre, must ever reinaiu completely didierent in
three siguilicetien. He only tar, tioncrl th;s by, t' c
way of suggesting the isicon4ruity their Lorilehiso
Were going to ail.tpt in the preweit Kttl. But when
hi' cm:template.' the nature slid peeisione of die
measure tom under conbiderattion, unit how that
Maser had been, treated by the mode in which it
Baal been cattle:l hitherto, it appeared to him
that there was a sywrttistic bud 41,111/Pr4tC
iu-
Semi in on the part of the King's Ministers
to degnede their proceeding-as-01w ! hear
—They hail (mated thews-Ives sufficiently tiaras.
set am' p.wplited with nee branch of the legis-
lature, and they r-eused eleternimed to-destroy
the importauce •of the other. ‘Vith respect to
the provisions, they were in principle milieus to
the agriculioral interest of the country; and, cer-
tainly. their Lordships, when the landed property
of the country wits materially it:voles-14 did ile.erve
the consideretinti of having an opportunity el form-
ing their own jnignireit upon the !sultry and a teas
*slut-in—a of the Bill. But instead of ties. they were
precluded from hearing the testimony of perrepor
frame every pa't of the kingdon ageisist the prinieuee
of t bc law. Nu. the Noble Lords wall have no et-t-
-ate:lce ; thee are afraid to admit testimony, amid
they tell the. (hate of Lords', with is shainel-as
front, they have no bovines* to consid. r, they hive
only to ;ins the measure, and they may consitler
sitterwarls. It it thus they support a hill brought
in at one petite) to favour a particular class of in-
dividunls, and on a meowl year cootanued for the
par' woe of •rearing the it int•Trat with errata
1,0141 m. ; is is thos taint the farmers of great
are tr. be rim having 0;1-
p..ttuslay of t.t4tPig tk..t yowl Better of

two 6. tls iionlal it be for sgrit!altufe, ILA the
farmer should ut oat be ilformid ht should nut
ever distil from corn ; this would preient him
froM cohteroplating the returning opportunity, and
he would then reflect on ways which might be
ltdopted for the better return of profit from the
produce of his Tartu. But these Acts, continued
from Session to Session, were of the greatest possible
injury to the tuterests of aerieul'ure, which could
not be tor:Mooch deprecated, and lie was authorised
to eutrttuin this opinion from the report of the very
Committee of the House of Commons which first
suggested the measure. (Here several of Me Mi-
nisters were etmeersing toge Mer.) Said Lord
Grenville. " I am not ourprmed to see the Noble
Lords opposite inattentive to retry thsng I say on
this-subject, fur it cannot ire very pleasant for them
to hoot of their own mist:midi:et. a hich has been
most glaring in the whole of this abuse. But I em,
notwithstanding, determined to discharge my
duty. although they have just now given a de-
cided mark of their iedifference cal inatten-
tion to all which I or any other individual may
say upon the question ; and they are determined
not to listen to those who urge any argu-
ment in favour of the agriculture of the coun-
try." There would not be the smallest doubt, but,
if Inns were given, petitions would pour upon the
table from every part of the kingdom. Intl:ed. at
present, many were the petitioners ready to prove
the impoliey of this measure at their Lordships'
Fear, and yet the Ministers refused to attend to
them ; they scorned the information which was
to he derived frcin the petitions which tootles'
their tab'e. Besides the rerurreiur of this
measure, from Session to Ses4inii, the present
Bill ties pregnaat with evils of a more pernicious
tendency thaa the preceding. God forbid he
should be supposal to wish this measure to he ex-
tended to because it wee imposed upon
the people of England. No, it was always his
opinion, that the measure would be injorions to
Lodi, but particularly to Ireland, and, therefore,
were it proposed to extend the measure to that
country, he would be one of the first to oppose
it. But when Ireland was included, the farmers of
Eogland had the ,atisfaction of knowing the iia-
policy was so great with respect to the fanner king-
dom, that they saw a chair prospect of the mea-
sure bciug drindoned. But now they had more
reason t. i!espond a such a benrficial result.—
Ile I (/: ..deathis bin was in violation of the articles
of tl,•' 1;111011, as it prohibited the importation of
si•:..ts from Ireland into Great Britoil!. Though
t rcetilutiou unght be defended, if the expeteielley
ul proiithiting the distills:ion in EtiAlaisil.and not
in Ireland were sidmitte4, still it was contrary to
those uni:dee upon which Ireland gave up her Par-
lintnent nod her iudepndence. He objected to the
Lill gem-1..411y, cm account of its injurious tendency,
and should give it his direct opposition.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL would not sit there and
hear sit itemisation against His Majesty's Ministers
fur tusintai JJ Illg 8 systematic and &hires-roe inten-
tion to bring the proceedings of that House into
contempt, without rising to repel the charge. But
this cars the common lono,usge of the Noble Huron,
1111 l rill occasions, whether foreign affairs, the
army, or the navy, or internal regulations. were
under discussion, these were his general obsevva-
tom, but they would, in his tyinion, be more at-
trolled to, it they were less frequently uttered.
Ho vindicated the mode by which that Bill had
heyri i:roe,eled with since it came helore them;
mid, it stoo' he recollected, the policy of it was
not a question of such a difficult nature, since its
prorciper had been discussed its former yr ors, end
the same reasons which at that time proved its ex-
vriernyv, avphyd to is 'vilify at present.
'flie Earl of ABERDEEN mode a very luminous
Art.ll ignini the subject under discussion. He
(amt.:oiled that they weir imperiously culled upon
to oppose the hill, upon the groutas of its mire.
elite% ous iwpuli y. The interest of the %Vest India
inetclimits wit not considered properly, with a view
to pernialieney ; and it would be Mond, in the cod,
even to them more a...Orions than beneficial. lie
denied the inference, that, Isecausl the measure
might hue 11. Pll tbilate,i by policy in the first
stance, it was therdine expedient and wise at this
time. (We are carry that wait of room prevents us
from tittering more at lorge imo the Noble Earl's
perspir uous speech on this occasion.]
Vi•corint SueitouTil urgue,l at. great length,
decidedly •gMmt the bill. rie principles upon
a hich the Kill was int:minced, .acre cornpletoly
eininged, in respect to the price of corn, the price
of sneer, the importation of the (miner, mid the
exponrbuuuf the with respect to all
other cousin alleged by the Report of the Commit-
tee of the House of Ottumwa:, in I SOA. He did
not think it would eventually prove brueticial to
the Wr.t India merchants, for whose interest he
was much concerned ; and he orgri..(l, generally,
that a great consumption of corn could alone pr.:-
duce that superfluity, which would, on all occa-
sions, he oderpone preveat u scarcity.

Lord Ilost.stin thonght it improper to inter-
fere ia the uitvlstion. It wars one of niech nicety—
it went to bring Ow landholder of this country,
and that of the West Indies, into competition,
%Inch must lie injurious to both, which would be
always the (use whenever any two ',arts of the
empire were pot in comparison. Ile perfietly
lureed with tlie selitiinesits delivered by the Noble
'Viscount (Sidman'll). Ile conk! ranceive
that at would he an answer to the 'Wilgt India
Planters that they hail revilated the myopia, through
politicul economy. Suppose 'near and grain were
to hr both distilled ■t the same distillery, it would
he irngws►ilek for the gauger to point out the da-
ft-relive. The Noble Lord ilwit entered into a
urg 1111 l eat, aliewing the different ipialities of
!cast., and concluded by saying, that the inea.are
before the Flown., however he mizlit dith•r from
those Noble Lords he had been to the habit of
acting with, should have his support.
The Earl of Ilitiowttgn spoke sgvinst the mea-
sure.

The Earl of Lit:Dropout rose and !IWO , how-
ever ',sinful it might hr to him to (litter from a
Noblt! Lord (Holland,) whom he had le•en in the
prarti-e of aetiniuwoli, yet he must, in the !present
pnea.ppre, when it had been said by a Nohle lord*
'he this Hull had taken imp melee time than a wv.k.
The obtery.ltiote might he well mule, when last
See.", a rhy was asked by him, mid hr and his
Noble Flik refs were total au hour couhl not he !mt.

It kit hilt u 4 inind of A bay or I'.l year r f cc-
lltrOl'ig hunt ieloul, and hringtig u letter that Eic
sinister %as obliged to flog him every day ; hi,
mamma cried and said, it oils !rot the f 101 hot
the cruelt) of his manner. Si :%!..Ppij'a
Ministers, for any flogging they t.te'Ne impro-
perly bestowed, and tie (atilt lies ttitli tio• thllii•
fist r. fle conclurird by observimr, that
it was improper ft.r 16111 to Itl.:1,1:1Le iu lhi. care
wilhout further information.

The Earl of LIMERICK tirietided the 161, par-
ticularly that pin of it whirls :tquwed ci,•

from grain iln Irdititti, tire, the- Y.,:eh•
said, which was called leer Its c%et)
that country.

Earl BATIIUIIPT I.c• okern,t), v.l•eti
he brought forward till' 1/.. , :IA en
Mute that the achel of the 11t:.t

rti

was the principal object of the Iral ; that i:.1.1 .!
(though a desirable objer I) been a s-enii.Le..y consi-
deration—the print t al our had been to red -3(` the
price of grain. At the time of pa-slog the bill last
year, wheat was at 059. Per quarter, and bat y at
45.. These prices had been cons:irked as Ala-
fiClelltly high to call for the iiispenston of the dis-
tilleries, and the bill, ti.s that groend, d
without opposition. At pi-4 .cm, Ili.- price of win at
was tots. per qu liter, and barley Sever4l
slid:legs yr quarter higher than at thut time. 1.1
1,795 and 1;96 the distilleries had been sopped,
when wheat was °lily Eh*. and bailey Jai. per quar-
ter. The present illtilMire Wrllt to prei via the
distillat 44444 trout gtain, of which there %visa scarcity,
and to atirourage the consumptiou of sugar, of
which there was a superabundance. It had been
said liy Noble Lords, alio opposed this bill, that
the distillers would only use such bailry as was,
damaged, and would +rib e no other purpose except
to feed cattle with. This, their Oats int• no.ts would
prevent the distillers from doing. There was a
heavy duty on spirits wash, and 100 galls. of wash,
made with 'clod barley, would modttee 21 gills. cf
spirits, and pay no more duty than 109 gall.. made
from bad grain, which would product! only 15 galls.
of spirits iu addition to whies, the ',roue..., when
bad grain was used, was considerably more expensive
than when the grain wit of a good quality. These
were circumstances which would alway overate to
prevent the distillers using gram of nu inferior qua-
lity. In lsbo, there was rl. large proportion of di-
aloged burley in the kingdom. yet it did nut ap-
pear from the report laid before the House, that
arty of it Ind bcen used iis the distillerirw—
The Noble Lord expressed his conviction, that. if
the distilleries were now to be opened, it would
cause a large consumption of goad hurley (the best
substitute-fur wheal at a time when there was I tile
wheat on hand, the price high, and daily Betting
hitcher.
fhe Earl of LAVDERDALE and Viscoa:lt SID-
1101JTE explained.
The question was then put, that the farther con-
sideration of the bill be postponed till Nlanday
neat. which was negatived without a divisio.i.
The Bill waathea read a third tiuie, and passed
without a divi-ion.

Lord GRENVILLE begged leave to call the atten-
tion of the House, to it document lying on their
table. He had, cm a former evening, inured for
an account of the difliirent priers of grain, at dif-
ferent periods, from 1795, to the present time ; that
account had been ordered to be presented to the
House. A parer had been submitted to their
Lordships einisideration, from the office of a Mr.
Cottenwood ; in that paper it was stated, that not
being in prnsession of information, at what peri?da
the distilleries were permitted, and when suspend-
ed, he could make no such return. He (Lord
Grereille) did not mean to impute any blame to
Mr. Cuttenwood, the fault be conceived, lay with
His Majesty's Nliiiibten.; who, if the informa-
tion was not in Mr. I:intros/owl's office, should
have directed it to be made from some other depart-
ment, where i: was to he found.

• Earl BATHURST acknowledged the report was
incorrect ; but it had been luid upon their Lord-
ships' table, without coming vender his insptlctiou.

EXCHANGE OF PRISONERS.
Lord HOLLAND perceiving a Noble Lord (Mul-
grave) in his place, begged leave to put a tßestiose
to him. He (Lord Holland) had seen au article in
a French official paper. stating, that a proposal had
Keen made to H s Msjesty's Ministers, by the
Feench Government, for holdieg a content at
Modals, preparatory to as exchange of pro.miers
but that the p oposal had been declined n.l the
part of our Government.

Lord Mt:LceitAVE agstured the Noble Lora, that
this wag the first iutituntion he had received of any
such btaternenr.

1.o:11 llot.t.mtto elichccl the Noble Lout would
favour him with it direct answe►. which might he
considered as a•snwing something of un official
eiipe, whether any proposition for un exrh:utge of
twist/tier, had been made ? and, if it had, whether it
weir preparatory tor or connected oter-
tnre a fur ? _

Lord 'Sltit.t.:ttire Paid. there had been some pro.
po.&ous made for on exchange of pri• ttttt I,tit
they were no ways preparatory to. or rd:iting to
any overtures for peace. Tilos« propoNitionl had
failrd of being corned into eller'. It I- terms otter«d
being such a, our GovPrument could not mettle tu.
Adjourned at 1141.1,-P4ST TWELVE.