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sheep of mine Was killed ; but no auspition could attach it.elf to
Franks upon that occavion. I received a letter from Mr. Kennck
about the month of August, 1824, which letter was sent by Mr.
Kenrick's servant.

(The letter was here testi, and stated that he 111 r. Kenrick) en.
closed the draught uf an affidavit (*hick had been hastily paeloge-
thee in eeneequence of the attack upon him in the Moraine Cif/.
side) relative to the ausnicious circumstances regarding Fratiks.
That he had been ativieedby his Italicise: to apply to those persons
who knew of the circumstances, that they might make affidavit to
the facts upon which subsequently to proceed in his ju,titication.
That he had some doubts as to whether he had rightly stated the
facts regarding the sheep in the draught of the affidavit he enclosed
but, it not, of course witness would alter any miatatement, and
that he would see him upon the subject the ensuing day.l
Witness proceeded—l did not see Mr. Kenrick, but I wrote him
an answer, of which I kept no wry. The answer stated that I had
no desire to make any affidavit upon a subject which had happened
at such a distance of time as to have escaped from my ntemoi ;
and that I thought 51r. Kenrick had better not do anything ui.on
ouch grounds, as there was no proof which could attach any cri.
mineral to him, the real culprit having been detected.
By Mr. Qtjmy.—l do not know whether the constable who
executed the warrant against Franks's daughter is dead or the con.
teary. I never heard of a bloody knife being found until two years
after the transaction, which, tot a time, threw suspicion upon
Franks. There were no sheep killed upon this occasions Two
years subsequently & sheep was killed, and then it was that the
knife was found, but no suspicion was at all excited against Franks
upon the latter oecasion. Fran:it, was never broupht before him
upon soy charge.
Edward Arnold, examined by Mr. Dittstan.—/ am Mr.
Peters's bailiff, and I remember that none of the sheep leer.: killed,
nor a bleody knife found at the time the sheep were stolen, when
the finding of a paper excited suspicion against Franke. All sus.
piano against him was subsequent) y removed by the discovery of
the real thief. A man of the name of Tindal was tried before Lord
Viet:borough at the Lewes Asaisns, and transported for that
°Tenet". _ _ _

John narks, examined by Mr. DE N 31A 14.—1 am now in service
1121 a gardener. I did live at Betchwnrth, where I have gut a free-
hold. I remember that my daughter, who was then about twelve
years of age, stole some articles from Mr. Kenrick's, which were
afterwards found in a small box belonging to her in my house.
I was no accessary or ahettot to that theft. The articles wve not
concealed, being in ber trunk, which usually stood by her bed-side
in my room, where she also slept. The charge was abandoned
against her. I was sent to prfson and kept there for come months,
in the year 1821, for stealing a piece of wood. I gave my wife no
authority whatever to intercede with Mr. Kuala on my be-
. half, nor did 1 eves subsequently express any gratitude to-
wards him.
The witness was ordered to withdraw.

ltir. DENMAN said that ho had no other witnesses to examine,
and should therefore rest his case upon those whom he had *beady
called, in conjunction with the documentary evidence which was
already before the House, and which, in has opinion, fully esta-
blished the charge against Mr. Kenrick.
Mr. Secretary CANNING said that he understood the course to
be adopted was to receive the evidence that night, and to postpone
the discussion upon it until another day.
The CHA 'KHAN called upon the Counsel for Mr. Kenriek to
say what course they intended to pursue.
Mr. GURNEY said, that with the permission of the lions* be
would put in soma documentary evidence relative to one portion of
the charge, and subsequently address some observations in excul-
pation of Mr. Kenrick.
Mr. DENMAN said that he thought the better course would be
to come to no decision then upon the subject, but to have laid be-
fore the House all the evidence, documentary or otherwise, that it
might be printed and distributed amongst the Members, to enable
them to come peepared to the discussion upon a future tiny.
Mr. Secretary CANNING made on observation which we could
not hear.

Mr.(ittagET said that it was his wish to put in evidence the
depositions before the Magistrates in Frankest:me, as also a letter
writteu by Mr. Kerrick to the Clerk of the Peace fo: the county of
&WO', and also a letter to Lord Middleton, which would tend
materially Miefute tote charge against Mr. Ketirkk.
Charles Lawson, examined by Mr. fluagzw—l am Clerk of
the Puce for the county of Surrey, and I now bold the depositions
before the Magistrates in the case of Franks.

The depositions were here put in and read, but they have been
already before the public upon the trial of that individual, and also
on the occasion of the application on the part of Mr. Kenrick
to the Court of King's Bench, for a criminal information against
the Morning Chronicle.
The letter from Mr. Kenrick to Mr. Lawson (the witness) was
also put in and read. It stated that he (3lr. K.) was desirous of hav-
ing the advice of Mr. L., whose practical knowledge he thought most
likely to avail him under the circumstances ; that a man named
Franks had been committed to prison for stealing a plank, value
one shilliag, and that having already suffered three months' im.
prisooment, and having behaved well during that period, he
(Mr. K.) felt disposed, as the punishment already received was
perhaps adequate to the offence, and as the man had a large
family, and was a member of a benefit club, the ativabtages of which
he would forfeit upon a conviction for felony, to give up the pro.
eecution. He could not say much in favour of the man's character,
but he thought the imprisonment he had suffered might tend more
towards his reformation than any punishment the Court might
award. •is object in addressing him was to ascertain whtther he
could not withdraw the prosecution, without forfeiting his remit.
nizances.

.Mr. Lawson continued—l sent the letter to Lord Middleton,
and received an answer trotu him in the negative.
The witness was ordered to withdraw.

Mr. (Ivo) ET said that he intended offering no further evidence,
and with the permission of the House he would then address to
them some observations upon the case.
Mr. DENMAN thought that in every point of view it would
be more advisable tor Mr. Gurney to defer his address on behalf of
`Mr. Bentick until the evidence was printed.
Mr. Gurney was then asked if he had any other evidence to
offer ? and on replying in the negative, the -House resumed, the
Report of the evidence was brought up, and ordered to be printed.
Mr. DENMAN said he should now move that the House take
the same into consideration on Tuesday next; which was agreed
to, and orders given to the Counsel of Mr. Kenrick to attend.
SUPPLY—NAVY ESTIMATES.

Sir G. CLERIC moved that the House should resolve itself into
a Committee of Supply. On the question that the Speaker should
leave the chair,
Mr. li UM krose, and said that it was his intention to oppose the
Speaker leaving the chair, in consequence of the ignorance in which
the House at present was as to the general expenditure; for he
much feared that if his Majesty's Ministers continued a system
of expenditure like that of last year, the country would be very
little able to bear it. His Majesty's Ministers were going on
daily increasing, instead of lessening, the expenditure; and there-
fore it was that he would call the attention of the House to the

Report of the Finance Committee of 18111, or indeeti,lleMiihts•;,
to the Report of his Majcoy's Minsters, for hi fart it was their I
Report. The Committee, in their Report, declared what in their I
opinion would be the expenditure of the country front the year 1816,
and they considered that nineteen millions was the amount at which
It was then proper to fix the expenditure of the army and navy;
but as two milhons were to he appropriated for the paying off the
debt, the estimate for 1817 istooti. at 17,330,0001., and to that point
he would particularly call the attention of the Right Hon. Gentle-
man opposite. [The Hon. Member here read a part of the
Report of the Committee of Finance.l The late Marquis of Lon-
donderry on that occasion had expatiated on the state of the country,
and very forcibly described the long and arduous struggle In which
it had been engaged, and stated the intention of his Majesty's
Ministers to ruce the expenditure in all the establishments of
Government. He (Mr. Hume) could not but consider that as
17,110.0001. had been considered the greatest amount at which the
expenditureof the army and navy should stand at that period, that
it would be well to consider what had been the state of the expen-
diture since that period; and what was the fact? why, that in
every year since that period, though the country wax in a state of
profound peace, it had gone on exceeding that amount by several
millions. There was not one instance in which the estimates
agreed with the expense. The estimates for 1618 for the army and
navy were confidently stated at 17,350,0001., but on referring to the
account of the expenditure for that year, he (Mr. Hume) found
that the money paid was 19,130,0001. In 1819, instead of any
reduction having taken place, they stood at the sum of 19,280.0001..
in 1820 at 19,388,0004 and in 1821 at 20,000,0001.1 so that they
had gone on gradually increasing in the way described up to the
present period: and he must submit, that if such expenditure was
necessary, that it was Incumbent on his Majesty's Government to
relieve the country of some part of its taxation by the reduction of
the public establishments. He (Mr. Hume) was well aware
ti a* the navy was the most effective branch of the national
defence, and It was not his wish to lessen it. lie should wish to
see, when the e::penses of the navy were being increased, wl.ether
there was or was not a proportionate Increase of expense in
the army, because if there should be a proportionate in-
crease in the army eatimates, then the expenses would be in.
created 3,060,0001. more ; and it was upon that ground that he did
not wish the House to go into the Committee until after the Chao.
cellar of the Exchequer had laid his measures of finance before the
House. It was positively necessary to see whether a reduction of
taxation could not 'oe made, and whether a reduction of the large
nutter, establishment could not be effected, and the House cottid
not be to a proper eituatiGn to vote tie supplies foe the Navy. until
they could sea whether or not a reduction might not be made in
other departments. His Majesty's Speech, or rather the Speech of
his Majesty's Ministers, held out hopes from year to year, which,
unfortunately, were most delusive. In the years 1819, 1820, and
1821, the Speech had promised a reduction of the public esta.
blishments as to their expenditure, but not one shilling had been
reduced in consequence. The Speech also alluded to the state of
amity and peace in which England stood with regard to the rest of
the world; and as that was the case, it became necessary and im.
portant fat the House to see whether a reduction In the expenditure
could not be effected. The Houses would have observed by the
Estimates, that there was an ineresee of 1,000 men last year,
29,000 having been voted, and 30,000 were now asked for the pre.
vest year, while In the year 1817, the number amounted only to
19,000. Last year, also, a great addition took place to the army,
sod, therefore? it was impossible to look for any relief to the
country ; and of such a state of things were suffered to go on, and
oar establishments continued increasing, instead of diminishing le
expense, It would be impossible for the country to meet any tutor.
peeled dillieulty should it arise. The navy of the whole world did
sot *mount to half that of England. It had been said by Gentlemen
ea the opposite side of the Hosea thet the great extent of our,
naval establishment was necessary in consequence of the dungen' to
apprebended front the ficet of tho United Sums, bus wbot