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HOUSE OF COMMONS.

The Ream was summoned to attend the Home of Lords,
hi hey Ho Majeat)'s Assent to iscveral Bilk.—:For slash
me tire privet-dings in that Home.)
I:pa• the motion of Mr. BY ma, the Pariersa Pairing Bill
sae read a thud tivise, aid passed.
Mr Peres Moose heouglat in • Bill for the rebuilding of
ridry-lane Theatre, ander certass mealtimes ; which was
a tits, mid ordered to be read &wood time ow Monday.
Mr. Mext.irtr FITZGE pretested • Pollnow hose
t"
Calimthe rwt'iliil. Clergy, and Gentry, of the monde of
Kent, epos the subject of tbs Catholic Eumptions ; sad
Mr Brats Somas D Atir premised • similar Petition
CAN the town et( i which were read, mad ordered to
he 011 the tahle.
Mr WV.LLIALCY PoLt brought in • Bill for ammiding
etrtmn squares in Dahlia which wan read • first, and Of
di oil to he read a setesd time //0 Mosday.
A Mii.am wits met Bea the Lords, mem ing to several
Prate Lags.

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Th.- FArt.r Parise Eiil ors read a third titer, and petard
4..rr wet Oren to heist in a It'll to repeal so inert. of an
Act of M t proem Majesty, as refitted to the possinnent
`uire delivered ra< hostard ehiedess sad to wake vet fate
',taunts. is the room thereof.
Mr Jotty..nti presented certain Art-nabob Ines the 01Bre
nf tier CL,.i Serra tarp of 'rebind bot, (woo Ito. Inaudible
tia aisle Wry were read hp the tktk, oc ate gum-

-Thot
Mbees creceived that the Committee hid
gone beyond the directions of the House, in pre-
senting a Report, which net only cootaiiird their
opinion, but an argumentative etateinent of the
opinions of the other House, and of the Courts
of Law, upon the question of the privileges of
that House. He did not conceive that the ana-
logies of the common Law Courts were by aiiy
mesas applicable to that subject, and should tint
be taken us a foundation for the conduct of the
House. The Committee had no authority to dis-
c is. the expediency or utility of any measure to Ise
ad-rited by the House of Commons, at a time when
the principles of the Constitution were to well known
and so universally acknowledged. What had parsed
in the House of Lords upon the theme of their privi-
leges, should he by iso means constdered as a guide
to the decisions of that !louse, and should not hate
beta quoted by the Committee us any authority
upon that or any other questi in in wiiich the pri-
vileges of the Commons +tete concerned.—Ordered
to It on the table.
Mr. Rose, in order to convince the Hon. Geld.
shot the Committee hod acted with propriety, mov-
ed, ghat the directimis to them ',hew,' be read:,
Ile th n said, that hr honked upon the Committee
as having acted with consistency and propriety in
fortifying themselves with all the precedents' pot-
, tilde upon the subject. As to the delivery of their
(Tontine, if any Gentleman wished to object to that,
the subject coisld be better discussed when the Re-
port was printed.
Mr. XV ti.searoaca said, he was surprised that
Gentlemen objected to the enumeration of such pre-
cedents. The acknowledgment of the other House,
from which the House of Commons hail to expect so
little in confirniatiou of their privileges, was, in his
opinion, a very desirable and grateful cotninunica-
hen, and served to increase the conviction of the
House, in the propriety of the conduct which it had
adopted.
Mr. PONSOKIIT said, that he was not in tile
House when the Report had brew read, but he
highly approved of the part of his Hon. Riau
speech which he had heard. The candour of the
Hun. Gent. who spoke last, something reitenible4
that of the party which professed all the virtue of
the !louse, and which possessed none of it; it was
like the candour of those who waited until the sett-
ttniente of both sides of the House were disclosed,
and then let out their opinions, which uniformly
came in with the stronger side. Although he be-
lieved the Hon. Gent. did not possess that kind of
sincerity; yet, sorely, his conduct Imre a very
striking anslo4y to it.. lie objected to the printinz
of the Report before its examination. It would 1w
said, that it was necessary to print theltepoit Inc
the purpose of examination into it, °writs. lie
would acknowledge the solidity of such on argu-
ment upon another °erosion, bat the printiog of
this Report was highly olijectiolialite, as it tva• not
well that a thing should go almond to the Unlit('
Kingdom, teciresimst•ner winch the pituiitug of tilt
Report would inevitably occasion, it kii h the House
could not acknowledge as its own, but in which

and gross misrepresentation. He was convinced
that his expressions were not heard with accuracy
by the Right Hon. Gentleman, otherwise do gross
a niisconstructien could not have been placed upon
them. Ila had stated that the part which he
had heard of his Hon. ['titbit's speech was approved
of by Into, and rustle no assertion as to the part
which was spoken previons to his entrance int, the
House.
The CHANCE/J.OR of the EICUIQVIIIIL explained.
LOCILHAKT observed, that there was one
thing in the Report which he coiniderod highly de-
rogatory to 11w privileges of the House. and which
would determine him against it—that was, the
statement that such authorities es it hart collected
from.discussiona in the Courts below. did confirm
their privileges.
Loid Minion said, that he felt, a good deal. the
objectied mode by his nova Pawed So lbw ibapon I
for. if they went to Courts of Law for the confirma-
tion of weir privileges. they would weaken them in
the very act. If they considered the decisions of
such Courts, when coinciding with their privileges,
as a necessary sanction; they must consider such
decisions. when• made in contiadict.on to their pri-
vileges, u deterioration of them. He thought the
entire proceeding derogatory to the prnilerres of the
Houser they *hewed u kind of doubt sod uppre-
, licie.ion, as if it was 11t1 ess:ary tbit they ShnUtel be
confirmed liy °aur judicature., instead of being
'pawned nod maimained by than. ovn authority. Ile
thought that the referring of such yue.twus to
other Courts would not hate a wildei.cy to establish
their privileges more firmly in the minds of those
who iineatimiedthem at per sent.
Mr. Witt said, that, with's°, considering
whether, as the lion. Gentleman under the gallery
had said, the terms of the Report were derogatory
to the dignity of the House, he would pat it to the
Committee itself, whether they would wish it to go
to the printer in its present form ? He found, upon
looking over the Appendix, that it was not in a Sta'e
to he intelligible to any piiiiter. There were so
many inieilineations and erasures, that he d d not
know how any person could proceed in the un-
dertaking; there were erasures by knife, by pen,
and by pencil; it was all irregularity sod confusion.
Ile was sure that it was not the intention of the
Committee to mislead the Hower, or to he guilty of
any misquotation, however indirect; but he could
not hap observing, that the opinion of Lorl Chief
Justice ‘Vilirit, alluded to in the Report, was not
cited as an opinion which hart sever been delivered;
it appeared there with all the solemnity and weight
of a judgment actually permed, though even he
(Mr. Whitbread!, nuinfor.ued as he was upon
Koch subjects, was perfectly aware that it was au
opinion not delivered, but said to have been
prepared to be delivered, though. in reality,
never pronounced. In was, hr understood, seve-
ral years after his death, that it ,net the light.
Ile would ask, did the Committee intend that it
shisuld be published in this manner? lie was rime
that they did not; breanse he was sure that they
did not mean to deceive. Hr dewed that such
piper timid be WRAP,' a. true legal authority ; or,
at least, that it should he consoiemi of ep,
will, a Judgineut nrtually pronounced in a
coin t of lu-tice. Ile enumerated several instances
of the iliaartimry of the A ppeudiv ; in one litstanye,
there appearad the word t• analogy" followed by
tan blank It ; /ate:!4); in somber, thure were
'ports eXpUnged,k4eing, parts that were
brhind them. II tem'• that
i.-sillemen. sating in Committee on sorb a loth.
j. et, st Id come forward in that House, "still
?midi afiirr nlo. If a tall was offered in .n. h .i -tale
to tl,. Sp.-.llc•r, Ine would relit.e to trcele.• it ; t.O
shnul.l that re r.i•••• this Report, it they hail it y e•ni•
%okra! ttttt for its. it own character, or for that of the
Ile found in nue plat..., that, out of
ii'"*" l'n ''''d'l,l'• 0)112'1.411v estouniiaated. hae
Lie k nut in ant.tiicr, Ihe dat• • Wet

Committee had a right to defend the privilege* hi
the House by analogies from *lw courts of tamthap
were therefore at liberty to quote the private !pi.
Mott of a Judge, which had never bees defieereill
and which, though previou4v entertained,
liable to be alteied upon consultation with hielPdo
Osten. He could not but think It right frefleir
Committee to hove referred to the decnikea
courts of !owl- but when it asserted that WSs
mutate for colitempt, even by courts of wesioisto
were not cognizable elsewhere. and sopptertad•theS
docuine upon authorities. it should give the seelto.
win, against it also. The case of Bushels We&
' -entered as most important : In that men thetobsis
Of the jury was committed for haring given • vs 44
diet contrary to the opinion of theme . . tits%
jOty wee cithimlttett fot trtattedept, -
tee think that such coalminel would net have belt
cognizable in other courts ? He coneloduieritil
accounting for his not having attended the Coss•
spinet., by. stating, that, si he differed iu wahine,*
from tho.e of whom it was composed, an& mold
not have the vanity of expecting that he would bit
able to Ater them sentiments, be thought it better
to absent himself—his presence could only hove
contribisted to prevent them from reportiog.
The Soricrtuit,GEnsitst.. expressed his rite+.
that his Mon. and I.cenred Friend had thong t is
necessary to absent himself from the Committee.
It appeared to hint, that the beNt way to arrive at Pt
true judgment was, by cauvassieg different op..
nions. The question upon whir% the Committee
was to exercise its judgment was, whether es*
House had a right to commit for contempt ? Ile
regretted it as a most unfortuuste, circumstance,
that hi. Hon. Friend. who stood almost alone upon
the occasion. shostl.l call in question owe of the
best established principles in that House—o prix
ciple which stood upon the united grounds of res.
son, authority, and analogy. He remembered,
upon a late occasion. that his Hon. Fri, ad bed
ransacked precedents, not to establish a piibeiple
upon their authority. but to thew he* little weight
precedents should have. He had quoted instancon
of puist.hing people, by placing them on horses,
with their foie,' towards the tail, as if that could be
a reason for under.rtting the force of precedent.--
What was there censurable, he would rill, in
giving such sanction to the privileges of that House ?
Did not the Right Honourable ("curl man oppo-
site (Mr. Ponsonfl) quote ouch authorities, in 'hot
speech, which impressed them, at once, with such
conviction and delight? Nu indiiiduel instantcEs of
bad precedent could be admitted to invalidate the
force of rights and privileges, standing upon ins-
memorial usage. But it had beeu objected, than
the opinion of ins ice Wilmot was not delivered
in Court ; it was true that it was not, but if was
his opinion. contained in his manueeript. and pub-
, hailed by 111. son. If it did not carry with it cli the
isistliogi..y of a judicial di clutch had, at lea•to as
good a right to be quoted. as the opinion of Coke
or Blackstone, or any other great man who had
%listen upon the subject, witisout being is the so..
thou.'s' to pronounce actual judionet.t• He hoped
that his Hon. Friend was also siugular in his ossia
nion, as to the right of one ('oust to decide
upon cases of committal by other Courts, fht
I contempt. Bushel'. case dud mt. apply, for it
was not for contempt ; but if it was for Contempt,
chit hue llooourable Freud gran to contend that
it was cognizable in any other Cosset ? lir, could
not avoid calling thaw unfortunate opinions, Cons.
Ina (sum so high an authority, soil liable to ht. Ise
they it ail, were, quoted in support of doctrines
I *hole teu,tency wine Itle+t pernistous. He had sus
ul.j..ctinu in any ottreasion as i the form of the
• IHH.-pot, but the substance be wistlid esaiestaio.
Si, Sintit Round., thought it would have
b..c..1 more candid in his Liao. riltad to saa,k

when, by the f..; m* of the Houle, he would- i
have an opportunity of aliswering.
Mr. PONSONDT appealed to the noise-whether, !
in quntiug the opioion of Lord Chief-Justice Wil-
mot, he had not expressly stated, that it was •
judginciemehieli had never been delieered.-(lleisc,
hear.)—He did not state it us • judicial autno-
ray, but as an opinion, which might very justly
claim same weight with them. his be would ac-
. kilowleilge was the first time that he lied heard the
*perch of 11113. Member quoted iu support of any
measure. The Committee should have reported
facts, it should have considered what ought to be
done in Parliatut lit, not what was s lid by any Mein.
her in it. Ile could assure the Hon. Gent. that if
he was to wake coy alteration in the speech to
which he- was an good as to allude, it would be in
that put which referred to the 'invoice of the Cwt.
below ; the qiie,tion should be decided by the
law of Pailiatairot alone; and if the analogies to
which he hail drawn their attention should impress
tiii-in with a notice thst it was ouly by aualogy their
p ..ileges could be oupiourted, he would consider
it speech as the ino.t unfortunate ettort he had
t.er sunde.—(Hear, hear.)
Sir T. Tuarms disapproved of every thing that
was dime, from bC;4111111114 to laugh;)—
awl declared his intention, wheoever the question
tame before the House, to oppose the reception of
such a Report.
The question was then put, opals re-committing
`the Report to the same Committee, and carried
without a division.
Mr. HcassaT wished to know whether the Right
Han. Gent. opposite (Mr. Grattan) intruded to
submit his motion relative to the Catholic Petition
that night ? He submitted whether it would be &-
big justice to the cause to bring it forward at such
an hour?
Mr. GRATTAN said, that if they hail not time to
come to a decisiou that night, they might adjourn it
to aisother day. At present, if he was to resolve
upon postponing it, he did not see that there was
any open day upon which he could fix.
LORD CASTLEREAGH.

Lord CASTLtaIIAOII begged leave to ask Of, the
Noble Lord on the other aide (Lord A. HeusiWm)
to what situation he was to stand. under his intended
motion, and whither it would be proper that he
should retire from the House, before it was brought
forward ?
Lord A. ll ism toe had no heitatiou to say.
that his morose ova. not connected with the Noble
Lined. filis only oliject was, to expunge a resolu-
tion front the Journals. which he thought their
roasiotoey and character required to be obli-
terated. Ills had sued, on first giving notice of his
olotsou, that it was not his intention to revive
the original question. To that inteurion he still
adhered. The ground upon which he should move
the expunging of the resolution. was the manifest
tocomosteticy which it established against the
Hoose.--(flere. at Lis Lordship's request, the Re.
solutiiic of 179, owl that of the 85th of April,
were read bv the Clerk.)—ths Lordship proceeded
to observe. that there was a manifest contradiction
hassestil the two. tior asserted, that every attempt
to traffic for seats in That House should be resisted
and pouisbed ; while the other Meted, that it was
Dot aece.ssry to punish such an attempt, se it was
sot conned into execatiois. Upou this palpable
toutrardietion was greunded the most of these
slosaive and insolent reiwirks with which the peti-
tions preseoted of late abounded, and tt was from
a desire to smote so strong a countenance for such
animadversions, that he brought forward the pre.
Saul motion. Ile was chiefly instrioneutal in
bringing the question before the Ileum, originally,
to therefore most naturally fell the task of re-
ano,ing, s/he could preyed upon the House to do
so, the censer! nence that had folhieed from it. It
would ask, in what conOsted the true honour of
the 11.1,5., and w. at was it that composed the Ito
of Parltabew ? He apsralseu.fed. they were to
look to 11w Journals for them. Whet au appear.
soca would it have, thettforoi if any person. ruoring
to the Jeternali, ups 11. is irmeasine. should find
two resolutiota, so itrad:ctotg of etch other. What
• solution trotld this he of the honour Of the
!loose sod • law of Parliameot. He was in.
Swotted by iso other motive in coming for-
ward as lie did, this night. than a ei.h to
do his duty, and viudiente the charaetee of the
novae. by reconciling its len4osige with its practice.
He befitted that the list Simon of Parliament
pretested a sew era in the history of debate.—
Newer moil then was it avowed tint places were
imagist and sold—carer until then was it sckuoa.
hedged that they were disgrace I by eta praeice of
a treat. which they had them 'hos condemned.
It became them now to cool:der bow far their own
cctshiet had or had not iii.tified the cen%oreso loch
were stbsequeotly east upon tISC:TI. plain
questioti for their decision was. whether hods those
kesolu:ii.is should stand togeber? The only nos
gument rein which it'could be meat:tined, if an
argument it could be called. was. that the one to-
t ahoy neutralised avid anoolled the other. It
wciod be for the House to decide how far such
rei-•.iii could emaribote to the restoration
of the rharacttr wheel it hell lest. It was, no
rl in their recalleetieu that; after this
be iii as, a Bill was brought in to prevent the aisle
of wit.. The debars, se well as the Bill itmlf,
p:..eredra upon an arkialluta--gtarat that seals
....re sold. Since thct perms/the (*erecter of Pat-
ti -tient • was att.ieleJ in a manner net easily W-
elled. Petituris 'odors,' • language net rail!
I.or•se, but not easel refuted. Most of theist id.
lioled to this recorded fact, and it sat to save them
f con the diagnie, and shame of seen allusion, that he
proposed it be expunged. If they meant
so it down as the law of that tech
trafliek might be adopted wills i,np inns, there was
on mite in his resolution. But if the r.-sotution of
1717 were true. if It beeisioe Podia tarot to resent
nil such unconstitutional a•te•nots, eien less his
nee ian pro,wt to be adopted. Th.. beet If ssa firlittir4
lei Lord Castlerragn. awl the first propostbois of
II a tb.j..sty..4 after 9111‘,1 all
Meat, that the Ilium" shoul .i 4.1.4 tothe -other Orders
'•- ILlidq. Finding their .fltir:,re out sufficiirat
t • .trey this, they were oblige,; in cliindon it. amid
lIV feslait was the revolution snot whirl, tie tow
Caelatilatord. They weer foal of olloiltuar to the
irooduct of their ancestors, but hr could not see
why they %broad nut thrum:eke- 113 a, .pant enough
1w mist such ptoceedins. N bile this rtuallatted

upon the hum& of the Mese of Commons,
he did not think that any petition for redress of
grievances. or for. reform, or for any other
purpose, wou d he presented, without same in-
sinuation against a transaction so derogatory to
their character. He begged to re.. 111 to the minds
of the Right Hou. Gentlemeti opposite, what had
been their conduct in other eases, not more flagrant.
He alluded to the cases of Mr. Alexander Davison,
and the Freeholders of Hampshire. Oa what
ground could they reconcile this difference of
conduct, for the same fault, when practised by
others and when practised by one of themselves.
It was not long ago sauce a preposition was
submitted to that House.. upon the conduct of
a Privy Counsellor, Lord Chatham ; when this
matter was investigating, the Right Hon. Gentle-
man (Mr. Canning) airtithe Noble Lord (Ceatle-
resgh) regretted the votes which they felt them.
selves bound to give; they completely acqiiitted
him of any intentional misconduct; notwithstand-
ing which they felt themselves bound to vote for a
eriminatory proceeding against him. It was true,
they were opt of office at that period, a circum-
stance which makes great difference in Gentlemen's
t opinions iu the estimate of right and wrong. Lie
entreated the House to recollect the situation in
which they were how placed In respect to petitions.
He did not apprehend it was possible for any one
to bay that this resolution was consistent with the
conduct which they ought to profess or to pursue.
It left it in the puwer of ill disposed persons to ex-
claim against the Inconsistency of the Hone. What
lie complained of chiefly was, that, while it stood,
they pore excluded from the possibility of defend.
ingetheinselves. He thought the only wise course
they could pursue was, to expunge the whole of
their proceedings. He moved, accordingly, That
they should be expunged."
Lord CAIITLESIAGH begged leave to trouble the
House, in this early stage of the business, with a
few observations. It did not become him to state
what the House ought to have done, hoe far it had
acted properly in the instance alluded to, or how
far otherwise. He could not help observing. how-
ever, that though the motion of the Noble Lord did
not accuse them of having some to a wrong deci-
sion, the whole tendency of his argument was to
thew, that it was unjust. The Noble Lord had
argued as if the House should act only Miuisterially
under the resolution; as if it was bound, without
ex ceptiou. to punish such attempts, and was preclud-
ed from all observation of the circumstances of the
case. It the object of the Noble Lord was barely
to preserve consistency. he should have brought
the Standing Order under the observation of the
House, to see whether his interpretation was right
or wrong; but the fact was, that such an interpret.
anion would tie up the hands of Parliament, leave
it no discretion, and force it to decide, io many
instances. contrary to its own judginent, and
to the particular circumstances of the ease,
The motion. as it was now proposed, went to
question the propriety of the former Oct-nista ;
and though it did nob directly implicate hint
(Lord Castlereagh), yet it implicated him by
in.inoation. which was more painful alai more
unjust.. The House had already voted with respect
so him, that. under all the circumstances of the
ease. they should proceed to rio eriminatory moo.
lotion, and this vete had been stigmatised as un-
just. He could not thank the Noble Lord for the
course he had takes) with respect to him, and would
rather have suffered the direct censure of the House.
than be exposed to the cruel situation of havin the
proceedings expunged. an act which would expose
him to the worst interpretations of the most corrupt
minds.

Lon' remits Toss contended, there had been no
ash inpt to impesch the character of the Noble
Lord, either directly or indirectly. The motion
made by his Noble Friend hail nu such tendency,
and was aide from motives. and for objects, of a
contrary maitre. His conduct sowed from the
course of events. Had not addresses bees presented
to that House. which imme.liately rellacted spoon
4,4 own proceedings? and by them it was very evi-
dent whist was the f.-cling out of doors upon the
subject. It was well known what had been the
conduct of that Noble Lord ; and, when brought
under the consideration of the House, what had
hewn their vote on the occasion ? That vote, with
its revolutions. was recorded on their Journals.
acd his Noble Friend came aowo, not for the
purpose of saying any thing in charge, against
the Noble Lord, but for the purpose of hav-
ing those remilutions expunged from their Jour-
nals so that they might be freed from the ac-
cusation of isicousonency, and that the petitioners
alight unit poises, au opport ty of acing such
hard thing* against the House ..f Commons. No
one could rreson.ibly find fault with Ins Noble
Frien I tot hying desirous to get rid of a resolution
injurious to the character and dignity of the
House; and he did nut see how any person could
oppose lion the ground of its being • charge against
the N•blitord opposite. It was oa these grounds
he should gise his rote iu favour of the motion.
Mr. Weals said, that his Nelda Friend (Lord
FoThstone; had given it as his opinion, thst the
motion b-fo-e the House could not be considered
as • charge against the Noi,le Lord (Castlere.sgh) :
but he was surprised hoe his two Noble Friends
coistil eateetain a contrary °pillion. He did not
perceent how the nous.- could ronsistent:y surer to
the present motion. %I'ith respect to the Ilemolu-
tMo recorded oil their Journals, it must always tie
recisHecte.l. that • serious charge had been preen
ousle mole against the Noble Lord, and, eller mo-
s.
I UK Call sideration. the House caiae distinctly to
the itePaltiti•ne.— Meer, leer.) Therefore, tak-
ing into consideration the manlier In which the
question had been entertained, and the vote which
hail been finally given. it would he • breach of
roinnteocy w espunge it, at this time. front their
Joitruals. indeed, such was his opinion of the pre-
sent motion. that hod any other person brought it
forward, with whose sentiments he was Not so well
acquainted, he should have suspected that it pro-
ete.lrd from a ((ewe to flatter the (echoes of certain
inli‘iduals, and frren an attempt to catch at po-
pulatity.--(//ear, hear. hear. I—Really.1—Really. under
show eirremeeiance., he might hare beef, 194101 CM
suppose,ti that it was wade for the purpose of
enotiteineneioz those doctrines out of doors, which
were hostile to the t7ototitution. The lion. Mais.
bow concluded by eonsmenting upon the entsireres
el' shark is, this indirect way against the Noble

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Leeds mud by going his oppeaitio* to the elution
if Mk Noble Friend.
Mr. Oar, would not trouble the House who Many
words en the subject uoder their -consideration.—
He was induced to support his Noble Friend's mo-
tion. on this ground. that it was• wade, not with
any regard to the charge brought against the Noble
I.ord, but his Noble Friend's inotiou was intended
to free the House from one of the foulest blots
which could possibly be east upon its dignity and
diameter ; for if the Resolutions were tat ex-
punged, that accusation woulJ, •at all times' be
Kahle to I.e stated against the House, by a reference
to its Journals. _ _

Lord Atentimato HAMILTON cnuW not but res
gret, that he should have hero accused by lUD Ho.
nourahle Friend (Nlr. %Word) of charging the Noble
Lord, a second time. particularly a; -he had dis-
claimed every intention of that iseure, at th.• very
time he made this 'proposition. Resides. his Hon.
Friend ought to have cousid..red there were other
parties to this subject than the. N.ible Lord—'he
House of Coalitions was also a party to the Retook-
tions.—( /fear.) ft was therefore strange he could
not bring forwerd a motion for the purpose of pre-
serving the I louse from inconsisteney, without its-
curring the iinputatiou of making a charge upon
the Noble Lord. Ile would suainunii that his con-
duct universally in that House did not justify 611C11
an insinuation, lie had oh.° heard on the present
occasion, thit the motive which actuated him to
bringing forward his mistim. was that of eatdiiii4
popularity. The feeling out of doors bad beets al-
luded to by his Hon. Friend, and it had been Urged
that he was attempting to conntenaace the doctrines
which were entertained on the pro. ceilings of that
House. But et the time he heard his Honourable
Friend express those sentiments, he was almost in-
duced to conclude in his iniud, that his
able Friend was making an effort at popularity
within the House.—(/tear. hear, kear, ikons both
sides.) If the resolution were expunged from
their Journals. he should be happy that he bud
gained a very material point, namely, that he had
preserved the House from any future charge of in-
consistency, and thereby had conduced to the sup-
port of their dignity. The ca,e of Wilkes had
been justly referred to; and would any one say that
the motion for expunging the Resolutions ou that
occasion way worthy of being accused with sinister
motives? lie had no doubt but a time would
come, however the feeling* of the House just now
might be contrary. when the resolution would
be expunged. and no imputation of popularity
would be brought against the motives of those
who might make such a mottou. Ile lutist
again declare he had no intention of having the
Notate Lord tried twice for the same offence.—
/ TAe Noble Lord here was interrupted with.' Ques-
tion, question." Ile said he was nut surprised that
some members, who were very hostile to the mo-
tion he hail proposed. should now express their
disapprobation. But having a right to defend him-
self front the accusa•ions winch had been brought
against him on this subject. he was surprised that
he shou Id encou liter the present interruption. He had
a duty to 'perform in that Heusi., and slaw' his mo-
tion might hurt the nice feelings of an individual, to
whose conduct it alluded. rill-his ditty as a Mem-
ber of Parhoosisat was potstmoont to es, crop-id.....
ation of delicacy which others might think was due
to the Noble Lord. It was not from any motive of
wounding the feelings of the iSiolAe Lord, but from
one totally unconnected, he had subsumed to their
consideration the present motion, and he had no
disposition to attack the Noble Lord, now out of
office ; but, he must observe, the Noble Lord's
feelings were not so acute, when he composed a
part of the Administration. -
Mr. %YAM,. and Lord CaIITLUIS•GiI, said a few
words iu explanation.
The question was then put upon Lord A. Hmt
stilton's motion. which was negatived without a di.