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ma. bs poisoned of ~Me wield
bone boat nun is the world, benne is seek moo bit seen not
wag* that ifdesellidosseablearagestatrei Plan Alms y.
Giagal mensernser ems, Wel* 46 which
ees.des=
Alerag re-
ar inir rill mope by
_ bs wan lbe Obey of in
aft/Ma hai anpsiMool maw
iraramika aka rot appeared
Ninetrithosundlardeol=e7 of be epseenis,
„seta st yr*. le null awn Mat insall—oever
.-dol ieig &di be on se toot by ding equal
snhisLeissi hem kr Iles nine% as well se fur
'adddap almond win. the sisuite of the
timid Yak iltiksay thiennsders end their
;Ilispnapiros ins iSeld—lhr the bet time '
-die Heir Apperee, whose doshetwis• shield warm ,
Pisa Miaow, anti aims* wns reopens his fa. I
of a kiwi of pang limo he bed eon before
_ and oppeilin the measure
eiesonsiest, nit es nod din he had
-anti peeper to do. 'ebb tie anteise of Ireland
beingyearise ins die vest sad hers the north.
Orsined so way. But the moult of all
essid edy be a unsarstary dieing. not over
asainNa, bet ems IM amatry, t the ens
wield set hare Lag r swat Their exults.
larailead ins anoika aria It would not do
doss.-whet L oil serer do, stile doe cry of
`Nsintipreen, one Vilna ay were wan ; but
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inagrovensaamong enehony, which sets all jos-
amessmarem den send nide it. As the friend of
I elenbiesenel *en to nose t (hear from the Op-
a tilieens &weld mos* than to sebeenios to the
sited/ onned MS so seise. Meghould
ens to Ines rtitperessi p' -a, nor
mean of them ate janotam so ern.
elespawer trill:haw at Lords, sr of die Heir
oe mum of the Owen could defeat dim if united.
videos ind. disinke wild over diem their just
4-feae had boss said of the diferenes of opia{oa
. °seism ow this nest imprints gaaatlsar
bad fieSse Iwo Heennbie Members who
valifetr i=llnse Mai of things, which all ad
Ak .
Tim Hi Hight Memourable Uentlenian
le
at no Zationsor) Hbed wed reply, but he
laryfeenflemeaftn osaid est entlosined even the drift
dm; rr llonilestinee's dense Ile &M id refrain, how.
the stritiost. amid Mate his reasons for
.iolaglaitLie
moo* sea eminordiewy state of things,
pirmokbv • Minim, who might agree
se innemiallea amespeny, be so two of whom
,ott epee sew sigt Important subject which dl.
1 dee osieety. Whim Mr. Pitt threw up Alta
Beds'un dne steer nede scented it again, he
sy sleds, dies .tb• einiessomeess of the country
Isesposs had Jain eheaametemel the title of Ely-
, aniseed so aunts off /kinfolk. Under
AMID he Meal, sad seesed, that the Catholic
aeabsedlardseetsessioa be Wend that the op-
is en thieembseilleses question, with
And is non enteli* Pau% SLOWS Dot Pre-
, sesk poisalet whit dam* 1114tes inn the
TIM .111 this period, bet Besaipeas wee not now
.ads plod* meld terebbfamarge the Right
opposite as • Catholic gum-
aTlTiliendlaido ipsoodien; it was not the most iin..
*- word* sely-itepseurd question which divided
41111 r. pia bid ends use of another argument.
t. Pitt, ' Yea a word about Catholic Ronan-.
maisialtione eampies an the subject ; he is an
iodine. redid, opinion, though erroneous, ought
• But this mimeot was now totally inapplicable.
If Wile present Aleyesty. To be sure he was well
hat he had not arrived at the venerable age to
bad teen at the period alluded to. Besides, the
infers being opposed to the measure, was al.
she je loner of 'it. He had no canseientious
He had pledged himself many years ago to
samatimbed his approval of the measure s dif.
oteleresen held with the leaders of the Catholic
Hoe. Gent. opposite (Mr. Canning) could,
a communi'ation made by him,
kNNING rose. He said the Honourable and
, must be aware, that soy communisation made
Majesty, was entirely Sipeeinpl and pinta
ear.) He was therefor, senis re sae=
At it to the Hon. and Lewd essentees
scary to pursue such a UP. idosenan (Hear.)
HAM resumed. He did fie' maw to moss that
it, be had only intended_ AMMO his observation,
mined he the mind of leapasent Majesty, which
.1 WO fralleigZetio 'maim to the measure of
-.41 Atone it ertnet the coricurrence of both
Parliament. (Hear, hear.) lie admitted that the case
as respected the avowed opinions of the Heir Pre-
Ministry was bound to consult the opinions of
ive. Ile ahould avoid entering more fully into
ibject because he hoped the compromise of opi-
et would soon hare an end. He hoped and prayed
I least party in the Cabinet would not be the longest
rn of compromise wss monstrous and absurd. There
ion.Semetary for Itelsnd, differing on this most im-
with his colleague, the Irish Attorney-General.
Under-Set-teary differing with his colleague; so,
ht Hon. GenCeman rises in his place to state that
priests are the promoters of sedition and disaf-
Right Hon. Gentleman, the colleague of the
to say, that he can't sit down, and hear that
of men maliiped. Ile trusted this system of
id ant continue to exist forever; that some better
cross the minds of certain individuals, and inishoe
later, to make a stand in favour of this most ins.
Whenever this day came, he hoped those iodi-
se repent the tardiness of their resolves. Su:h a
reflectinfinite honour on those who should feel
to make it. It would cover them with glory, and if
necessary to resign their situations, they would ex-
's of a Court for the ungrarsal approbation of an
. If they wanted any additional inducement,
-.ad it in the beaming and imperishable reward of
consciences. If be addressed any who sported with the
'muses of their country and their own hearts, he
that in his opinion they run no great risk in mak.
He did not dare ten hope that the present Minis.
resign their offices upon such high ground, but if any
- Cabinet should come f i:csrd to make such a stn 4,
tt that. he should want the support of the country,
the Opposition, and the support of many indi-
at the ministerial aide af the House- The
Cabinet who were in favour of the Catholic
t to tear. Ile c'id not expect thaty Ministry
say calling in the Hon. Baronet who represented
England, the Member for Somersetahire (Sir I'. Loth.
a few other gentli nen to support the Secretary for the
tment. if such a Milieu was formed it would last
'me that it need gin little trouble to those who were
s it. If the Right Hon. Secretary (Mr. Canning.)
n this subject, he would most probably be prevented
Bee by the same influence which prevented him
country ; and if he and his party should retire
was his tar. a's) opinion that it would pro.
.1 of that great cause , whilst it conferred eternal
Sight Hon. Gentleman himself. He had now stated
lie avoided entering minutely into the differences
h divided the Cabi It was his hope and prayer
t compromise may end, and that Ireland should be
titer the compromise ended or not, lie should not
.Breland, nor should he do so ever. Ireland had right to
_ her claims; she had principle to build them upon, and
A feeling to adorn them ; and if she proved true to MINK
steadily. violently, opposed tp a Government which she
' . upon, if not through bir.friends, Ireland of her.
out her own salvation. (Cheers.)
`TIN said he felt disposed to concur with the
but he thought if it was pressed to a division, it
- cause it was intended to serve. Many Hon.
favourable to the Claims of the Catholics, would vote
motion. If the Honourable Gentleman (Mr. S. Rice),
division, lie (Mr. Martin) should feel ft his duty
him, but he rather hoped the Hon. Gentleman
i to withdraw his motion.
.PTT concurred with his Hon. Friend who had
(Mr. Martin,) that many Hon. Members favourable
ovation of the Catholics would vote against the pre.
It was quite clear that the main object of the Hon.
Limerick, was to afford a convenient opportunity for
at perhaps, to the e ttlyslic question generally ; but to
question under the particular circumstances in which
-I. The Hon. Gentleman bad fully succeeded in this
friend of that cause, of which the lion. Gentle-
. and sincere an androatte, he (Mr. Plunkett,)
propriety of his withdrawing the present motion.
Learned Friend who had just spoken, in the outset
mtions apologised for intending to digress front the
.ssitni of others, purposing to confine himself to the
at issue. (A laugh.)
'qA3l observed, that he did so only for a few
;ETT resumed.—So admirably did his Hon. and'
. conform to the rule be laid down, that he (Mt.
following that example, would say but a very few
respecting the 'Assiut:don of those despatches, which
text of the motion before them to have laid on the
louse, and in the first place be would observe, that
es were nut required for the purpose of throwing a
r.questiirn pending is that House, or likely to be
e its consideration. If then they were not required
of that nature, it followrd of necessity that the only
ieh could give rise to the motion of the Hon. Member
would be merely that of Aetna disease= Even

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A slatting with that Naito odd Oollant supposing that the esaillesigldflUff lintilla = i tosties. The Hoak trodwid essdkroant the House had a red i bawd rotimpo Oho •
to oho of doe REM die PilllOp of Mover, in applying*, them_, to das Ilse Mil
ill. sewn Bwhop was bordiu disbud oT dd WI
811.2% p .bp tigy Am Podats, tholdwer tog lb* maim ho *old sot ha staspattall.if _ lds
lobageoggpolhowoodsmathia •- ' dewed. He (the Hr. Mover) tv NW —. . .__ _ _ _ . _.

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ittl, .rz ow wilkarectd 411ollonlIC and :ardoz
lk-- Alt! . fill lhat Irt" lifora=leke
and
Me eir
urvi"ril* emit pm, as
ad indlldinidnotllh pordidran yet doe wheiressior of the win.
triondetde ;if any)whicb dinned the subject of His his he menter-
ilealie agreed generally onlaerbetantially hi the viewilin „...*
Noble Lord repeetiagthspabey mikpaessed hl doe • ..
Ingebil. He could mime dip His Mime, the H -1.-.—W-1170
smasity, the
t solar *Was that NW* Ind waft
WIN tweawares of h, "woe, er Loin tone* loe
' bed most from she Meeflwarese ford it._
wed ad=
vellereen to one edam if issiaaril as VIA
ItileVillsi; as he well did, the esmimmis sf titer Chi
em dm subject of the Condit food* at as Wielateeisdrellift
g=career. and knowing tow One the d.. Ohio, die '
ant of Ireland, his views reenistsdaseltered. wed tea
ilonoillown to that aims as and lall y Ini Ile ellesto.
dm the concession of the lie Wm so y
a mann of right and of justice, but AWN 0 wwwwwest
nteawity ; with similar sentiments impels/W is blfirg
it vas impossible for him not ter ma diet the H ne ,e
country were placed in such a situation M wee a is excite
the deepest anxiety and solicitude. The shush= is which she
country and Legislature were placed, sett' ape way setril, Om
most alarming; for not only hwl the Cathsos lasswies WM ler!
tied in that House, but the carrying three. of that assarre lid
the effect of creating an opposition hewn* &ottoman's. w(M.
!lament. It would be in the 4 *IR law heal I
that early In the Session he had mad its ettowin id die Hone
to the grounds on which he had joined the Adminlitridni this m-
ilking, and he thought he had rendered ample Teases, is
tion of himself : in then recurring to the same subject, sod once
again vindicating himself for having joined such a Gitrimmint,
he did not mean to follow his Hon. and Learned Friend through
all the topics which, In the exercise of his fertile mind, he had
thought proper to broach, for in doing so he should find little to
oc:upy the [louse with, except giving the same answers to the
same observations ; but there was •one point to which he should
find it necessary to &deed, and that was the objection missal against
any political man uniting himself with &divided Government. A
Right lionotirahle Member opposite, who had been amongst
the loudest in his censures of those who united in adminis-
mad= with persona from whom they differed on the Catholic
Question, had admitted that he would himself hare no ob-
jection to join • Government, the Members of which
I might happen to differ from him on the great and important sub-
ject of Parliamentary Reform. He thought it was then scarcely
equitable to charge them as culpable, for joining an administration
divided do the Catholic question, when Members on the other side
wen ready to follow their example in a similar case. In the course
of the Session he had justified his-having
that
• divided Ado&
ra nisttion, and he then begged to declare that his sentiments re.
specting the Catholic question remained unaltered. The Hon.
Baronet by shorn the question had been brought before Par-
Himont had not consulted him on the subject, but had he been
called upon he would certainly have endeavoured en dissuade that
Hon. Baronet fitom bringing it under the consideration of Parlia-
ment at that time; but he thou.ght It for the advantage of the
cause that no opinion of that nature should be pronounced
previous to the discussion of the question that year in Par.
!lament—for his first wish was to give the measure his ardent
and strenuous support, setting aside all collateral and minor
considerations in pursuit of that great object of national good. In
the discussion on the question he heard nothing to change the view
he had taken of the existence of a divided Ad,:tinistration ; and it
should never be forgotten that it was under such an Administra.
don the cause had made such progress, and been carried through
the House with so many and such decided majorities. If the
friends of the measure had quitted the Cabinet. and left it to the ex-
clusive occupation of its enemies, the great measure would not have
made the progress it had attained. Ile could not, in the existing
position of anise, help expressing deep affliction and alarm at the
result, though he still experienced no despondency : on the con-
' teary, he was most hopeful of its final and speedy actompitsh-
ment. Its success could not he prevented, unless by the
egregious indiscretion of the Catholics themselves. If not
through their means, it was impossible, in the nature of things,
that it .could fail. It was the very extreme of folly to imagine
that things could remain as they were, or that that source of dis-
-9 Met could ever be put an end to, unless by a concession of Catholic
Claims. if the Calulics should say that they were unsolicitous on
the subject, he should consider them odious and deceitful hypo.
mites ; on the other hand, if he gave credit to their declarations to
that effect, he cruld not help regarding them as men dangerous -to
the State, base by nature, undeserving of freedom, and that, in
such a state of society, there could be no security for the country.
It was a question which he knew must run its 'course, and which
must be decided by its accomplishment. That he verily and con-
scientiously believed. The next question was, whether he could
properly co-operate, for general purposes, with an sdmluatration
from whom he differed on that one point ? This re rived itself into
the question, would his retirement have promoted the public good ?
the affirmative of which, he conceived, did not at all appear.
His Right Honourable Friend (the Chancellor of the Exchequer)
with that frankness and candour which always did him so much
honour,declared that if the preservation of principles demanded from
him the sacrifice of place, he would have no hesitation in adopting
the alternative. Wilmot claiming for himself similar credit for
his professions, he wonld itay, that he had been placed in such •
situation as tried whetter he would or not resign, and he had done
so, and that again he would, he tanned, be found to sustim the
character he had borne through life In allusion to what had
fallen front his Hon. and Learned Friend, respecting the opinion
of a Noble fiord, on his (Mr. Plunkett's) conduct, be had com-
municated with that Noble Lord, and had the satisfaction to learn,
that lie meant to express no feelings of unkindness or diseespect.
He repeated, that he felt unaltered on the great question, and he
thought he best contributed to its advancement, by remaining con.
wetted with Government as it then stood.
Mr. BROUGHAM explained, after which
Mr. Secretary CANNING rose—he was for a few moments in-
audible; but when heard, he was understood to speak to the fol.
Mario effect :-1 fwe are to question, whether it would be or not
e to form a government tree from the disadvantage of Matzke
I Neese I cannot agree with either of the views that have ben
I adopted on this pubject and occasion. Although lam free to de-
clare that no man living can rate higher the importance of the
Catholic Question as a great measure of state policy, vet I WTI sot
disposed to consider it as one of such a nature that it should
be permitted to overwhelm and absorb eriry other question. If
a new Government were about to be termed, I admit, Sir, it
might then be a desirable object to obtain a uniformity of opinion
upon this and other questions; but as that is not the thing
to be considered, hut whether the existing Government shall
or shall not be broken up for the attainment of that object, it
is a wholly distinct and separate question, anti one in site consider-
ation of which every wise and honest man is bound to keep
in view not his own interest, but that of his country and she
community at large. I perfectly concur with what has fallen from
my Right Hon, Friend (the Chancellor of the Exchequer), and I
declsre, in the greatest sincerity of heart, that if my relinquish-
ment of office would prove conducive to the settlement of this great
question, I should not for one single moment hesitate to make the
sacrifice. I repeat, Sir, I would not hesitate if I thought so, for how,
ever beneficial I may consider my own exertions and those of my Col-
leagues to be to the welfare of the country, I consider this message
inhnitely more so, and that the public good to be obtained by its
adoption would more than counterbalance any evil that could result
from such a step as that I have alluded to. But, Sir, my decided
and recet.t opinion, made up upon the best and ).hest consideration
of the subject, is that so far from this desirable end being produced
by such means as these, they would produce results of the most tee.
mtndotts character, and thiow the acooinplishment of this
object back to an extent not generally calculated. This is myPer
nion, founded upon the most anxious end recent consiieration
and which applies to present times and circumstances; for.
1 speak not now of the geniral principle or of the common rules ef
action upon this or oilier questions, but to those which apply te
our existing nituation. The Honourable and Learned Gentlettoms ,
(Mr. Brougham) has complained that the sentiments of my Right
Honourable Friend (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) how am
teen sufficiently explicit and intelligible to him ; and
Sir, I shall not be able to =aka all my ideas intalligiblatilt
Bon. and Learned Gent. but what is principally required (I bud
almost said all that is required) on the present subject is, =
should make no assertion which is not strictly true. The as
I shall make, is this :--On the most deliberate consideration I awl
give the subject in the present time and circumstance, the measure
recommended by him, if canoed into effect. would be fraught with '
calamity (hear) to the country. (Chew.) I hold myself perfectly
at liberty in discussing this, as other questions, to retain the right
of exercising my judgment and discretion as to the time and oppor-
tunity when it can be best dealt with. (Hear, hear, hear.) Sir,
with respect to the present state of this question at the end
of a most extraordinary, and, as it regards this question, event-
fill Bession, I am unwilling to express my opinion, because
I know I shall subject myself to one of two accusations.
If I say that in my opinion the state of the question is not &d-
-immed and forwarded as its zealous supporters could wish, I shall
be accused of risking the assertion, under the liability, yierhaps,
1 with the design of creating the evil I describe. (Rear.) If on the
other hand I declare, that in my mind the question has made •
great and considerable progress, I shall be taunted with exciting
fallacious hopes and expectations, which are only calculated to lead
to bitter disappointment. But. Ste, between those opposite and
conflicting difficulties I feel I have no course but to speak the
truth, let the consequences be what they may. (Cries of " Hear, ,
hear, bear.") At the beginning of this present Session of
Parliament I expressed it as the strong and filet opinion of I
my mind that the people of England ware not mature kg the adop-
tion of this measure, and I was then accused of retooling the wi-
complishment of this great measure, and told that timpeopls was •
ripe for its adoption. Ido not wish to repast my Illemeril 45.-
pressed opinion on the present occasion, but 1 must obsit time
appears to me to be a considerable advance daily imiallik
Alin
the accomplishment
among the higher and more enlightened classes gram psegiumte
making, and has been made, the resistance it still =Md.
in other quarters is rather of • passive than an active
(hear): except, indeed, where it has
bees.ied lan . e
by the injudicious zeal of those who
friends of this great measure. (Chsegs.) tit
the minds of men were only left free and
a mans as those 1 have alluded to, there_ would' aim . .

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in ibis part of the subji
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s- was the Right Hon.S,
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4 that when one Right
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as compromise would a!
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cx- firer short time, it I
the cure the triumph
arcs honour on the Righ
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that the prtrient coi
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hig despair for 4reland,
strengthen her elan
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and steadily, not .
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self would work ou
Mr. R. MART
present motion, bi
would injure the
inis Members favourab
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pressed for a dish
moll to divide, with hit
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bars Mr. PLUNK El
ua- r tit sat down, (31r,
ry to et the Emanci patio
spun snit motion. It .
lent- Member for Limer
else- cdverthig, not perh
sat a the Catholic queen,
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objets ; and as a
:Ili 1 man was so able
Mil .':ergestel the prof
wed His Hon. and Lear
we, of his observniont
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mod • 31r. BROUGH,
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