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Mr. lIU.NIE was desirous that the three individuals whore it
was really necessary to employ should receive an adequate re-
muneration but he must protest against keeping up a larger oda-
blishment than was reqiii,iits. The Board consisted of eight Phy-
sicians. receiving 1001. per annum each ; a Director, whose salary
was 2061. t and • Registrar, who enjoyed MIL lie (Mr. Hume)
was clearly of opinion that three Physicians, exclusive of those
two last-mentioned officers, would be sufficient to answer all the
purposes of the establishment.
After an observation from Mr. PEEL, the Resolution was
agreed to.
It was moved that the sum of 50001. be granted for the contingent
expenses of the Refuge tor the Destitute.--Agreed to.
On the motion that 98,2401. be granted to defray the expenses of
printing, stetionery, binding, &e. in the various Government
offices, and public departments,
Mr. HUIIE objected to the sum of 14501. which formed the
item to defray the expenses of printing for Chelsea HospitaL
This expense, he supposed, was incurred in getting up the pla-
cards in which notice was given of the days appointed for the pay-
ment of pensions quarterly or half-yearly. He thought it would
b.: the better mode of proceeding to tit a day permanently for the
payment of pensions, and by that means gave the cost incurred by
placarding the town with those notices, and adrertising in the
newspapers.
Sir CHARLES LOSU said, as we understood, the notices the
Honourable Member for Montrose alluded to were relative to
Examination-pensions. With respect to the pensions in general,
they were paid as near quarter-des yas was practicable. A great
inconvenience would seise from fitting a particular day for the pay.
ment of pensions, on account of the great distance to which the
money had to be forwarded, and the difficulty that would arise in
procuring currants for its payment in proper time. Under all the
circumetancen of the case, he thought no mode could be more be-
netieial to the parties concerned than that at present adopted.
After a few words from Mr. HUME, the Resolution was agreed
to.
On the motion that a sum of 52,0001. be granted, to covet the
loss attendant upon calling in and re-coining the silver tokens cis-1
culating in Ireland.
Mr. HUM E said he wished to know whether that sum would
,be sufficient to cover all the loss incurred by the alteration in the
currency of that country?
Mr. II Eli Itl ES could not tell the exact amount of outstanding
tokens: 52,000/. was the estimated expense of the measure for the
present year ; but be was not prepared to say that would be the
final expense.
After a few words from Captain 31ABERLY, the Resolution
was agreed to.
' It was moved that a sum hot exceeding 8,000/. be granted for
the prosecution of persons unlawfully counterfeiting the current
coin of the realm.
Mr. H1.131E wished to know the reason why the present esti-
mate exceeded that of last yea!' bv 1.0001.?
After a few words from Mr. WALLACE, the Resolution was
'reed to.

It was moved that the sum of SEBOO/. be granted for furniture
and other expenses of the two Houses of Parliament.—:Agreed to.
It was moved that the sum of 78,1471. be voted fur the Civil
contingencies of Bermuda.—Agreed to
On the motion that 33,000!. be granted to defray the expenses
incurred at home and abroad for the abolition of the slave trade,
Mr. HUME said no possible advantage was derived front this
enormous expenditure. Other nations persisted in the traffic,' in
defiance of every stipulation to the contrary ; and this was nu less
than an useless waste of money.
Mr. W. SMITH made a few observations.
Mr. BERNAL concurred in what had fallen from the Hon.
Member for Montrose. A vast cum of money had been ex-
pended with very little beneficial effect upon the cause which he,
in common with many other Hon. Members, professed to have
deeply at heart. He was prepared to say, that since the exist•
ence of the treaties between this country and Spain and Prance, the
horrors (tithe slave trade had increased ten-fold. 'We had many
gallant officers employed on an unwholesome coast for the pre-
vention of this cruel traffic—we had spent large sums, and were
called upon by this vote to expend a still further sum of money
in bounties to our sailors for the same purpose. In spite of all
these exertions, slaves continued to be imported into the Brazils,
the Hay.mnaii, and various other settlements, which were profiting
and thriving at our expense. Ile thought, if it was desired to
give an effectual check to the slave trade, that object might be
forwarded by our occupation of Fernandez.po, which would
afford an excellent harbour for our cruizers engaged In the at-
tempt to extinguish that disgraceful trade. It was dear that
under whatever pretence excuses might be urged, whatever might
be said of the right of search, it was the determination of America
never to consent to the actual abolition of the slave trade. The
Southern States of America required slave labour for agricultural
purpose. : and this was the secret of her acquiescence in the conti-
nuation of the slave trade.
After some observations from Mr. P. BUXTON relative to the
insincerity of the Powers in Europe and America who had con-
tracted together for the abolition of the slave trade, the Resolu-
tion was agreed to.
It was then moved that the sum of 17,4561. be granted for the
salaries of the Commissioners for the prevention of the slave
trade.
Mr. HUME objected to the vote.
Mr. W. 631 ITH said the Havannall Commission had never
produced any advantage to the proposed measure, at all propor-
tionate to the expenditure incurred.
Mr. W. HORTON said there was no indisposition on the
part of his Majesty's Government to adopt any practicable im-
provements, but he doubted if the present were one of that
nature.
Dr. LUSHINGTON supported the vote. The Commission
at Sierra Leone had fulfilled the purpose for which it had been
originated. Were it not tor the course pursued by the Commission,
the slave trade would have existed in a still greater degree then it
did. He concluded by passing a high eulogium on the conduct
of the naval officers of the service.
The Resolution was then agreed to.
It was then moved that the sum of 13,0001. be granted to de.
fray the expenses of the Special Commission to Spanish America.—
Agreed to.
The sum of 36,000/. was then voted for the salaries of Consul,
Vice-Consuls, &c. to the South American States during the current
year.
The sum of 120,0001. was voted for the public service in the
Colony of New South Wales.
Mr. W. HORTON moved that 3,477/. be granted to defray
the expenses of the Civil Establishment in the Bahama Islands.
Agreed to.
On the motion that 800/. be granted for the expense of the civil
establishment in Dominica-
31r. 111'31E did not see why the people of this country should
be put elan expense which he understood the inhabitants of our
foreign possessions were themselves willing to defray.
Mr. HORTON had na objection, it the people of Dominica
were content to do so; but the individual who received the salary
performed judicial functions, for which it was but just he should
be remunerated.

gr:/Itibik understood the individual alluded to received
2,000 f. from the island, which was amply sufficient for his services.
Mr. W. HORTON explained, and the vote was agreed to.
Mr. %V. HORTON moved, that the sum of 8,2491. be granted
to defray the expenses of the civil department in Upper Canada.
Mr. 11U31E—That colony possessed funds arising from the sale
of lands amply sufficient to meet their necessary expenditure. He
would never consent to vote away the public funds in that manner,
though he should singly have to take the sense of the Committee
on the Resolution.
Mr. W. HORTON would bring in a Bill on Tuesday JIM to
create a Company for the management of the waste lands in Upper
Canada.
Mr. 111.731 E acknowledged that would effect an alteration in the
mode he intended to adopt.
Lord M 1 LTON thought the feu and expenses enormously
large.—Agreed to.
1 helium of 5,1 l I. was voted to defray the expenses of the civil
establishment in Nova Scotia.
Mr. W. HORTON moved. that 5,104/. be granted fur the civil
establishment in New Brunswick.
51r. HUME understood the Custom-house alone, if prJp;rly
managed, would more than meet the expense.—Agreed to.
Mr. II ERR I ES moved, that the sum of 3,010/. be granted for the
civil contingencies of Prince Edward's Island.—Agreed to.
On the motion that 10,5134 be granted for the colony of Sierra
Leone—
Mr. HUME informed the House that he intended shortly to
bring forward a motion respecting that colony, for the purpose of
determining whether the laws relative to it should be altered, or
be continued on the present footing.—The Resolution was then
agreed to.
The sum of 11.01111. was voted for Newfoundland.
The sum of 23,931/. was voted, on the motion of Mr. W.
HORTON, for the civil establishment of New South Wales.
It was moved, that 2,4111. be granted for the contingencies of
the colonial service, formerly provided fur out of other funds.—
Agreed to.
The sum of 15,0001. was then voted for the propagation of the
Gospel in foreign parts.
The Chairman reported progress, and obtained leave to sit again
on Monday next.
The House then resumed.
NV BILL.
Ppen the motion that the House do resolve itself into a COM.
mittee on the Mutiny Bill—
AIr.SVKES rose to inquire whether any alteration had taken
place to abolidi the. cruel and degrading practice of flogging ? As
this was an annual Rill, he thought it his duty annually to object
to it, until a clause should be introduced abolishing this most
shameful practice. Flogging he knew was not unknown amongst
the armies of the Continent; but he believed it was not generally
practised ; and in France, where the largest army was maintained,
it was certainly unknown. Ile could not conceive what there
was in the constitution of an English soldier that should make :t
necessary to punish him in a manner more crud and degrading
thon wss prac iketl towards any other soldier in Europe. It had
been said that many of our soldiers were brought up in the manu-
facturing districts ; but it did not appear that persons brought up
in those districts required mote severe punishment than any other.
persons. lie had never heard any thing in favour of this practice
but a plea of necessity, a plea which had never been proved, and
to which the !louse should not subscribe. The Honourable 31em-
bet said he di 1 not mean to deny that sumnutry punishment was
necessary before the enemy, but in time of peace he thought we
should make the soldier's life comfortable, and endeavour to'
diminish the severity of our military law. The necessity for con-
tinuing the practice of flogging was supported on the ground of
provident dttuikerntss amongst the soldiers. But bow wss this?

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We make these unfortunate mu drunk to induct them to enlist,
anti when they have ciliated we punish them in this horrible way
because they commit this very awe. (Hear, hear.)
Colonel JOHNSON begged to offer a few words on this question
as it was a military subject. Ile thought the practice of flogging
might be abolished ; anti he was the more inclined to adopt this
opinion because of the great inequality of severity with which the
lunishment was now inflicted. In some regiments one hundred
ashes were equal to, or exceeded in severity three hundred lathes in
other regiments. Every military man must accede to this state-
ment, and the House could judge how intolerably unjust it was.
Lord PALMERSTON begged the House to believe that he
and his Hon. Friends had no partiality for this particular kind of
punishment. lie thought on some occasions it was Indispensable
to preserve good military discipline. He did not defend the fee-
qnent use of this punishment ; but on some occasions he thought it
necessary, anal that the House would do ill to deprive the Crown of
the power. The Frerch military law. he had reason to think, was
practically quite as severe as the British military law, whilst the
conduct of the French soldiers was by no means se good as that of
our troops. One fact he would take leave to mention : it was, that
in the regiment which was commanded by the Adjutant-General,
the officer whose peculiar province it was, under the Commander-
in-Chief, to attend to the discipline of the army, during the last
year and half not a man had been flogged. He only referred to this
lcircumstance to show, that no fondness for this practice existed in
the Military Department.
Mr. II ITaIE thought the fact stated by the Noble Lord showed
that the practice might be altogether dispensed with. Ifin the regi-
ment commanded lry the AdjutantAleneral proper discipline could
be preserved for so long a period without Bonging, it might be abo-
lished altogether in the Service. With the Noble Lord's remark as
to the bad conduct of the French troops. he (Mr. Hume) could not
agree. The French army were, generally speaking, well conducted,
and if lie did not mistake. General Orders had been issued more
than once by the Duke of Wellington, calling upon the British
troops to imitate the Food conduct of the French. (Hear, hear.)
General HOPE %aid, the Hon. Member had truly observed that
idrunkenness was the crime which most frequently called for the in-
fliction of the objectionable punishment. He had the pleasure to
state, however, that this crime was likely to be much diminished
in the army, by the introduction of a new regulation which would
add greatly to the comfort of the soldier. There would in future be
a settlement of accounts weekly, and not monthly, which would
prevent the receipt of a large sum a: one period, and thereby dimi-
nish the temptation of drunkenness.
Captain MABERLY recommended that the tread-mill should
be substituted in the army for the punieliment of flogging.
Mr. GURNEY thought the principle of enlisting solders for life
a very objectionable one.
AUGMENTATION OF THE ARMY.
Lord MILTON rose to express his surprise at the enormous in-
crease which was proposed in our Military Establishment. Our
standing army was already very great, and notwithstanding the
mysterious mode in which the lion. Member for Southwark (Sir
R. Wilson) had alluded to it on • former evening, he (14. Milton)
could not be induced to believe that the consideration urged had any
thing to do with the question. In 1819, a like increase was pro-
posed and agreed to, and the very same reason which induced the
Government then to apply, now acted. Ile knew the source from
which the proposition originated. It did not come from the ad-
ministration collectively (it he may be thus allowed to express
himself), it emanated from the military part of the Administration.
He almost lamented the prosperity of the country, when he taw
that it was made a pretence for heaping on it new burthens. if the
national burthens were as heavy as they were considered some time
ago, Bon. Gentlemen would never consent to such an augmentation
of the army as that now proposed The House would remember
the difficulty that wax found In inducing Ministers to consent to the
reduction of' the military establishment, as to diminish it to sixty
thousand men. The standing army was now about to he increased
nearly half this number. He slid not think the circumstances of
the country warranted any such increase. In 1819, he thought the
pretences for an augmentation of the army extremely frivolous, and
lie now considered it hard, when the country was beginning to
breathe, that such a burthen should be imposed. lie was sur-
rounded by lion. Members who had presented petitions for the
repeal of the Assessed Taxes; but how could the Chancellor of the
Exchequer diminish taxes when such an augmentation is contem-
plated in the military force ? The Chancellor of the Exchequer's
financial system, he would readily admit, was beyond all praise ;
but by taking off those taxes, he did not do sa with a view to
dimininish the burthens of the country, whilst an augmentation of
the army was proposed. He did not mean to find fault with the
reduction of taxation, which the Chancellor of the Exchequer pro.
posed. Ile thought the reduction of the wine and coal duties would
add to the public revenue ; he anticipated an increase of the
revenue from the reduction of these duties, but he felt that the
Chansellor of the Exchequer could not intend to relieve the country
from its burthens so long as a great standing army, unne:essary from
the state in which weave placed, was kept up.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER felt himself
called upon, in consequence of what had fallen from the Noble
Lord, to trouble the House with a few observations. From some
mystical allusion, he apprehended that the Noble Lord meant to
convey that the proposition for an increase of our military force
proceeded from some quarter in which he and his Right Hoo.
Friend the Secretary for Foreign Affairs were not Influential.
Now, on his part, as well as that of his Right lion. Friend, he
assured the Noble Lord, he was never more iniataken. The pro-
posed augmentation was decided upon with the full approbation of
him and his Right lion. Friend; and if the proposition was wrong,
there was as much blame to them as to any individual of the Ca-
binet. There was no such view as increasing the patronage of the
Government; nothing like the view of erecting this into a military
government, as was hinted by the Noble Lord. His Majesty a
'Ministers thought it an imperious duty, in time of peace, not to
expose our foreign possessions to danger. We are now in peace,
but no one could be bold enough to say how soon we should be
again involved in war. Every year brought us nearer to such a ca-
lamity. lie wondered lion. Gentlemen did not perceive that,
under the new circumstances which had arisen, it required an aug.
mentation of our army to defend our foreign possessions from sud-
den aggression. Without such an increase of our military force,
how could we expect to maintain our power? It was not, as his
Majesty'a Government declared at the commencement of the See.
sion—it was not for Ireland--it was not from an expectation of a
continental war—it was solely from the new situation in which our
foreign possessions were placed, that his Majesty's Government
recommended the proposed augmentation of our military establish-
ment. lie thought the Government would have abandoned its
duty if it neglected to submit such a proposition, and for his part
he was willing to take his full share of the blame attached to it.
Mr. ROBERTSON could not see any reason for the proposed
increase of our military force. The Chancellor of the Exchequer
talked of the peculiar situation of our foreign possessions; but he
(Mr. rt.) did not perceive any thing in the present situation of our
foreign possessions calling for an augm en i ation,t hough he saw much
calling for a diminution of our military establishment. We were
at peace with all the world, and likely to continuo so ; and what
had we to dread whilst our navy continued so powerful ? Ile would
say opposition to the advice of the lion. Member for Aberdeen),
built! ships, keep up your navy, and reduce the army as low as you
can. (Hear, from the Opposition benches.)
The House then resolved itself into a Committee on the Annual
Mutiny Bill.
Mr. II UM E inquired whether any alteration had been made in
this Bill ? He had not been able to procure a copy of it, and there-
fore inquired merely to procure information.
Lord PAL3IERSTON said, this Bill was a transcript of that
past last year. lie proposed the insertion of a clause respecting
the punishment of men engaged in the militia service. A militia 'I
man, enlisting in the Line was now guilty of a punishable offence,
and was subject to imprisonment. Ho proposed that militia-men,
when their regiments were disembodied, should be allowed to enlist
in the Line, but that they should not be sent out of the country,
and should be returned to their regiments, if those regiments were
re-embodied.

The Bill then went through a Committee, and the report was
ordered to be received on Monday.
MARINE 1111:TINY BILL.

The House resolved itself into a Committee on the Marine Mu-
tiny Bill.
Sir E. KNATCHBULL wished that the wives of the marines
should get a pus to send them bach to their parishes. as was the
case with the wives of soldiers. This was a great expense to the
parishes from which marines embarked.
Mr. CHOKER thought the cases of the military and marines
distinctly different. The army were embarked and re-embarked at
various places, and absent God knows how long. The marines
were embarked and diumbarke2 at particular places, and kept on
service for a certain period ; these places served as a domicile, and
when they returned they knew where to find their wives. As to
the expense upon those parishes, the Honourable Nlember should
recollect what a large sum of money was expended by the marines.
Sir E. KNATCHBULL explained.
FLOGGING IN THE NAVY.
Mr. HUME thought it an intolerable hardship that awn should
be flogged as they are in the nave without any trial. lie meant
to propose a clause in the Mutiny Bill to remedy this obvious de-
fect, which was contrary to all justice sad to :he rights of English-
men.
Mr. CHOKER rose to order. Ile apprehended that the lion.
.Member for Aberdeen was not taking the proper counie to procure
the abolition of the practice he so strongly reprobated. The Bill
berme the House related to marines ashore, and nut to marines
afloat. It was under the 22d Geo. 11. which was a perpetual Act,
that marines were subject to punishment on board ship. The
lion. :Mender's encase would be• to propose an amendment to, or
the repeal of this Act.
Mr. HUME said lie had inquired, and learned that the present
would be a favourable opportunity for introducing the subject.
The CHAIRMAN did not conceive that the clause proposed by
the lion. Member referred to the subject now before the House.
HUME coincided with what had fallen from the Chairman,
and gave notice that he would call the attention of the House to
the subject at a very emly period.
The then went through a Committer.—To be reported on
Monday.
CRUELTY TO ANIMALS BILL.
Mr. R. MARTIN moved the second reading of the Bill to pre-
vent cruelty to annuals.
Mr. HEATHCOTE said that he felt it his duty, however,
highly he might condemn all unnecessary cruelty to animals, to op-
pose the Bill now before the House. Until a few days back, he
had never witnessed a bear-baiting exhibition, hut In consequehee
of the observations of the Honourable Member :for Galway, be had
been induced to visit the Cock-pit in Duck-lane, where, however,
there were only t bears kept. He saw one of those bears, and a
more hopeful bear, or more thriving cubs, he believed, never were
exhibited. He understood that bear had been baited for nearly six
years, and Led tow be= obliged so give up the amusement, be.

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cause, it had grown so fat. and was unlit for it. The Honourable
Member (Mr. Martin) had stated, as a fact, some circumstance
relative to cruelty to dogs, but the correctness of this statement had
since been denied. In his (Mr. Heathcote's) opinion, if it were
cruelty to bait bears, it was cruelty to bunt or to wow. Ile would
ask it bear-baiting and stag-bunting were lint equally cruel—but
they were both ainusenients,—and the only difference between them
was, that one was the amusement of the poor and the other the
aniusetnent of the rich. In the latter, the magistrates themselves,
' almost universally indulged, as well as many Honourable Members
of both Houses of Parliament. He would say, that those Who op-
' posed the one must in common consistency appose the other—or
else they would be enacting one law for the rich and another for
the poor. In his opinion, the sport in either ease was allowable ;
the amusements of hunting and shooting added materially to the en-
joyments of country gentlemen, and induced them to keep at home
to improve their estates, while it benefited their health. He would,
therefore, give his opponent° to the Bill. and would conclude by
moving that it be read a second time this day six months.
Mr. C. WILSON supported the Bill, but spoke in so low a tone
as to be perfectly inaudible in the gallery.
Mr. PEEL said, that from the speech of the Hon. Member who
had just sat down, he had gleaned that the greatest evil this coun-
try had to apprehend was from the syneui of poaching. That
lion. Member had spoken on the subject of the present Bill as he
had no doubt felt ; and in so doing be had done his duty—
" Homo sum nil humasn a me alienum puus.'
Bur he (Mr. Peel) would ask the lion. Member (Mr. C. Wilson)
' why he did not bring in a Bill to apply expressly to this evil ? if
I evil it were, and then there would be a degree more of reason in
his argument. He (Mr. Peel) would ask that lion. Member, and
' the lion. Member for Onlwa, , why, if they sought to be con.
sistent, on what principle they avoided making the Bill more
general? Ile should be sorry if there were unnecessary cruelty
practised to allow that practice to continue; but that was not the
question--the question fur the House to consider was, does this
torn a fit subject fur legislation ? The Hon. Member who brought
in the Bill should have !evened it against all sports of the nature
complained of, and in his (Mr. Peel's) opinion, there were sports
far more caul than bear-bating that were not roticed in the Bill—
stag-hunting. for example. In die one case the bear was left to
fight his battle in possession of all his natural vowels ; but in the
other the horns of the stag were taken off to prevent him from
effectually defending himself. On the same principle ought not
the barbarous practice of pigeon-shooting to be abolished ? Was
it not more cruel to collect a number of inoffensive little birds to-
gether in a cage, from which one was selected to be shot at, at a
given distance, by a gentleman who bets with another gentleman
that he will kill the greater number of birds in twenty-five shots?
Those gentlemen were certainly not so unoffendlng as the bear-
bakers, and why should not a law exist for preventing the eon.
tinuance of their cruel sports ? Why should bears and monkeys
be selected for legislation, and stags and foxes be left without that
protection to which they were equally voided ? Ile could not
conceive any reason why those animals should be excepted. There
was one clause in the linll which,if the House were satisfied to let it
pass into an Act woe Id gis e opportunity, he would no: say of tyranny,
hut of exerting a tyrannical disposition, to an extent certainly never
before given by the House. That clause would enact that if any ma-
gistrate saw any individual engaged in bear-baiting, or other cruel
sports, he should be empowered, without trial or conviction, with.
out asking for any proof to be laid before him, to punish hint as it
he had gone through all those necessary forms. What a power
then would the Magistrate have in his hands, and how greatly li
might lie not pervert it ? (!{ear, hear.) Such a measure would
do neither mere nor less than place every individual in the country
under the controul of the Magistracy. The Magistrates, if such
an Act were permitted to pass, need only say to an individual, we
sow you transgressing the law—they nerd not call either evidence
or jury, but immediately convict the offender. Would the House
see to what effects this would lead ? If a Magistrate returning
front fox.hunting to his dinner on crimped-cod, with the intention
of sleeping on a bed made of the feathers of geese, saw a poor
man who was wantonly—as he might assert, for he would not be
called upon for the proof—wantonly ill-treating a domestic animal.
lie might subject such an offender to a very heavy punishment. To
what flagrant abuses would not such a system lead ? Why did
the Honourable Member for Galway (Mr. Martin) in his tender.
ness to the brute creation, so far forget those of the class to which
he himself belongs, as to place so large a portion of that class at
the mercy of the Magistrates. That Honourable Member had on
a former evening alluded to Dr. Msjendie, and had affirmed that
certain experiments were made by him, which he. the Honourable
Member, highly reprehended. If domestic animals were wantonly
ill-treated, there would be certainly great reason to complain ; but
in his ( Mr. Peel's) opinion the blouse should, in such a case as
that to which he had alluded, interfere with much cane and caution,
as those experiments might lead to results the most beneficial. Ile
would not, if the statement made by the Honourable Member for
Galway had been true, be one to interfere in such a case ; but he had
seen the circumstance denied b' the Learned Gentleman against
whom the charge was made. He telt assured that in experiments of
such a nature, animals were not in one case out of 1,000 exposed to
unnecesary pain. In 1820 the HMI. Member (Mr. Martin) brought
in a Bill to prevent cruelty to cattle, be now seeks to make it more
general, and extend it much further, and there was no certainty
that the Hon. Member, if some similar grievance struck him,
would not came down to the House and ask for a much further le-
gislation, after having informed the House that they had recog-
nised die principle in going as far as they had gone. He (Mr.
Peel) would advise the House to consider if such a subject was a
fit one to legislate on, and if not he would advise the House nut
to prohibit such pursuits, and not to givesuch a power to die Ma.
gistrates as those to which he had alluded.
Sir JAMES 31ACKIN'f OSII said that he could not be satis-
fied on this occasion to give a silent vote. The Right Hon. Gen-
tleman (51r. Peel) had indulged in much pleasantry against the
Bill; but the real opposition in the present case would not be
against the Bill, but against cruelty to animals. It there were
any thing in the arguments of the Right lion. Gentleman, the
Legislature had already committed an error in passing the Act
which was passed on a former occasion to prevent cruelty to cattle.
He (Sir James Mackintosh) would pass over all the pleasantry and
criticism that had been directed against the Bill; but the true
question was, whether or not Parliament, icy this act of legisla.
tton, had done wrong? No one was more an enemy to trivial
legislation than he was ; but he had had experience, and so had
the ceuntry, that in so legislating the House had acted tight,
and had not acted wrung. lie commended the exertions of
the Honourable Member for Galway (Mr. R. Martin). The
law which he had been the means of passing had already, in
a great degree, diminished the number of those cruelties that
had formerly so frequently shocked the feelings of every friend
of humanity. All persons held that needless cruelty was a fit sub.
ject for legislation, and every man ought to be punished who wil.
fully and wantonly inflicted punishment on beings capable of en-
joying happiness and of feeling misery. He was sure that this
sentiment was now daily sinking more and more into the minds of
the people ; that it would hereafter fonn part of their education,
and ;hat an improvement in every point of view would be the na-
tural consequence. In his opinion there were matt' vim that
were fit subjects against which public opinion should be directed,
but were not lit subjects for the interference of the law ; gaming,
for example, was one of thern. lie watt sure that all the penal Acts
that had been passed for the suppression of gaming had never pre-
vented a single shilling from being won or lost; yet the Legislature
had endeavoured by erery means to suppress It, and a fine of
5,000!. was levied against a keeper of a gaming-house, while, at
the same time, the person who actually transgressed, was sub-
jected to a much lighter punishment. The sports that the
Bill now before the House sought the suppression of were
not national sports.--An Honourable Member (Mr. Heath.
cote) had said that there were only two bears kept for exhi.
bition in London. It was plain that it was' not a public sport
founded on a public custom. They only afforded aulusementi then,
to a few wicked and mischievous individuals, and what the House
wonld have to do would be only to prevent those individuals from
thus any longer amusing themselves. Ile would then vote for the
second reading, because any objectionable clauses might be omitted,
and if there were any that gave too great a power to the Magistrates
they might be left out. lie would be Forty to vote against it, or to
speak as a Right lion. Member had done, because he should fear
that the plaudits that followed his speech would be succeeded by
thescreania of 3UfferiDg thousands. His lion. Friend (Mr. Martin)
had not only brought this subject before the House with energy and
spirit, but he had conducted himself with great caution in prose.
cueing it, and haul on all occasions used the greatest exertions to
bring it properly into effect. Ile (Sir J. Mackintosh) was most anxious
to prevent e:tac.;:y to animals, but he would not extend his Aim.
tions so far as to exclude all right of experiments on animals.
If there were any case in which it could be justified on a principle
of self-defence it was that of experiment—experiment made for the
purpose of inquiring into the nature and the torus of man, to remove
' disorders, and to preserve life. Ile would not shrink front the Oi-
-1 loquy attached to this opinion, if these was any obloquy so attached.
In such cases the means might he !mesh, but the results most be-
neficial. lie felt that lie owed a duty to Dr. Majendie to state his
opinion of that gentleman's sympathy and humanity. His fame
as a physician hal spread over Lurope, and those who were the
best judges of his merit ranked hill' meat high as a physi-
ologist. He (Sir James Mackintosh) had been attended by
Doctor Majendie during his residence at Paris, and always
found him kind, and tender, and amiable, and lie was con-
vinced thee he would never inflict wanton suffering on any living
thing. Doctor Abernethy. and many of our first surgeons were
of opinion, that such experiments as those thee had been alluded to
were necessary to science. In his opinion they should be left to
die consciences of this individuals who made them.
Mr. U. LAMB said, that he would read a play-bill of the days
of Queen Anne—the play-bill advertised that at the pit of I lockley-
in-the-Hole, on a certain day two dogs would fight, and that a
bull would be baited, covered all over with lire-works, and with
two or three Ws tied to his tail. lie did not, however, read this
to show that lie approved of such exhibitions ; lie only read it to
prove that in those days it wax not deemed necessary to enact laws
to prevent them. In his opinion time nbolitinn of such practices
ahould b.: left to the progress of education, and to the progress of
religion, amid he thought that the people had better have such
amusements than have no amusements at all.
Mr. W. SM ITH said, his °alnico was directly opposite to
that expressed icy the lion. Member (Mr. (i. Lamb) ; and
thought that rather than allow the people to hem amused, he would
never have them amused at all, until such exhibitions had ceased
to exist. If any lion. Member doubted the effect these cruel exhibi-
tions had on the public mind, let him look to Spain ; let him look
at their bull.fights, and isle himself what was the impression on
his mind when he witnessed them ? For his own part, he was con-
vinced that it was the demoralising tendency of such exhibitions
which prepared the Spaniards for, and enabled than to hook on an
cult, do fr. Sued a progress in cruelty was beautifully illustrated
in the Footings of Hogan)]. That inimitable painter represents
in his first scene a parson spinning a cockchafer on a pin, and after

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leading hin on through • series of cruelties, each exceeding that
former in degree, exhibits him at last killing the woman he bad
seduced.

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Me. MARTIN rose to reply. Ile said *very strong appeal bad
been made by the Right Ron. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Peel) in
favour of every animal but those included in his (Mr...11.'5) Bill.
He complained of the cruelty to hares and to stags. Was that an
argument against the Bill ? It made rather in its favour. Instead
therefore of his being taunted, he would taunt the Right Honour-
able Gentleman; and would press him, as he wished to be con-
siatent, to advise his 31ajosty in an easy and quiet way, as his
Constitutional *deicer, to dioxins' altogether the stag-hotin2s.
Stag-hunting in reality was more cruel than any other species of
hunting ; it ought not to be considered on the same footing, sad
therefore he called on him again to advise the dismissalof the
stag.hounds. (Laughter.) ll' such a course was adopted, perhaps
a Noble Lord near London may be induced to follow the example.
He (Mr. Martin)Jelt in bringing the question forward, he was
doing a (nvour to the lower world. (A laugh.) he Hon. Gen-
tlenian went on to describe some cruelties lately practiced in the
metropolis, on which occasion some persons actually cut dugs in
pieces to try their spirit. (No, no.) Let any Honourable Member
answer hint, but not interrupt. And suppose these sports were not
cruel, let the cruelty be put out of the einestien, did not these scenes
tbrm as it were a neeleva for pickpockets and every description of
depraved persons ? het the question be put to all the Aldermen of
London in that House—let them be asked their opinions seriatim,
and their answer would be that these scenes promoted crime. The
31aleistrates of Westminster were of the same opinion, and nig.
out of ten of the Magistrates of Ireland would join them. He
did not propose to force a law on the people. The people them-
selves called for it ; and he claimed it on the put of' that portion
of them still uncorrupted—still uninitiated in crime. (hear, hear.)
Petitions were forwarded from Mancintster, frcin Liverpool, and
almost every parish in London, in favour of it. Objections were
that night raised to his introductien of domestic animals into his
Bill, dogs and cats for instance. lie would consent to leave them.
out, though he saw no reason why eats ought not to be protected as
well as other animals. Ile was told a story about two boys, who
lock a cat and flayed it alive. (A laugh.) The story might be a
subject of mirth to some, it was no joke to the cat though. Now,
1 he would offer a few remarks with regard to what lie had stated
about Dr. Majendie, and would repeat, that he had performed ex-
! periments the most cruel that ever were witnessed. He (Mr. Mar-
•ln) did not deny that experiments may be necessary ; it may be
fair to try an experiment on an animal. If an operation were to
be performed on a man, suppose for aneurism, it may be necessary
to ascertain by an experiment whether it was practicable to take up
a certain otiery. Dr. Majendie had gone further than that ; lie had
come to this country for the purpose of me king a dramatic exhibi-
tion. Let it not be said that he (Mr. Martin) was actuated by
any hostility to science, or that be was acting without the concur-
rence of profepiontl gentlemen. Ile had the sanction and authority
o the Remit. Professor of Anatomy in one of the Universities
for thymus* he was miming. That distinguished individual had
thanked him fort .e awakening the attention of the public to the
subj,ect. (*tear.) Ile would be content to be called the maligner
of Ih. slajendie if he did not convict him out of his own work ;
an I how did he meet the present charge ? Not openly, but by
quibbling as to the price given for the dog. The dog too
may be a spaniel ; ar.d indeed he had heard that it was a
spaniel, and that that species of dog was selected as having
the finest nerves. Ile was aware that anything said in Par-
liniment cannot be made the subject of trial • but he was prepared
to go to trial, and would put a plea of justification on the record,
and meet the charge openly. lie had that slay gone to St.
Bartholomew's Hospital, and re-asserted what he had before
'Latest—so that lie had furnished evidence enough. As a
specimen of the humanity of the Doctor, he would mention
a fact connected with his experiments in England. Whilst ha
was dissecting the dog, be put his cheek to the dog's
mouth and said, " Rests: traliglatle" ! and then tutning to the
spectators, said, "II serail plus trastquelk s'il entendait Franey:is !"
laugh.) The Doctor's defence reminded him of a circumstances
at which he was present. Ile once went to Newgate (hear, hear),
to see a man convicted of murder ; he was by when the
man protested to the Ordinary his innocence of the crime of which
he was convicted, namely, the deliberate murder of his wife. The
Ordinary asked if ten or eleven witreeses did not prove the fact ?
the man replied, They perjured themselves, and I ant innocent ;
they swore I killed her with a mallet, whereas it was with a poll.:
axe I committed the murder." (Great laughter.)
Mr. W. HORTON opposed the Bill, though he had supported
the former one introduced by the Hon. Gentleman. That Bill went
to put down cruelties unmixed with amusement. The present was
aimed against amusements as well as cruelties.
Sir FRANCIS BURDETT declared It gave him great pain to
witness the attempts made by the Right lion. Gentleman opposite
(Mr. Peel) and others to throw an air of ludicrousness over the pre-
sent question. It wu monstrcus 'to talk of comparing the cruelties
complained of to fox-hunting, and other such sports. In the one
case cruelty unmixed with amusement was the object—irethe other
amusement was the sole object ; the cruelty was merely incidental.
No man could in justice think of comparing those gentlemen
devoted to fox hunting, and those sports calculated to give in-
creased energy to the mind and body, and to promote health and
noble enterprise, with those beings who stood coldly and cruelly by
whilst two animals were tearing each other to pieces. Besides, the
Gentlemen who opposed the Bill left quite out of their considera-
tion that which was the most prominent feature in the question-_
the moral effect of the practice. They were not then legislating fur
brutes, but Par man, with a view to his moral improvement—Glean
—those who generally composed the crowd to witness these de-
moralising exhibitions—those who may with truth and justice be
designated the nuisance of society. Through the House may not
agree to the details of the present measure, still he thought they
ought to go into a Committee on it, if they approved of its prin.
• (hear,) and as to its principle he would beg to remark, that
it was in strict accordance with the common la.. The common
law went with it—the common law already punished cruelty so
animals; and it was owing to the extreme difficuly of get-
ting at the abuses that made the present Bill necessary. Some
Hun. Members objected to the measure through tear of the oppres-
sion that may follow its enactment and in the enforcement of its pro.
visions; for his own part he rather thought it likely to fall into
disgrace; he thought that after a feu years it wottld become a
dead letter, unless the Honourable Member for Galway could
appoint a successor of the same hun.anityand the same indetatigabie
perseverance. (Hear, and a laugh.) la conclusion, the Honour.
able Baronet said he thought the House ought to go into a Com-
mittee on the Bill ; if they did not be feared it might cause a rot
action in the public mind, and do away all the good produced by
the former measure. (Hear.)
Mr. F. BUXTON supported the Bill to show the good effects of
the former Bill. He begged to state that thirty of those who had
signed the petition presented by him that night in favour of the
Bill had been convicted under the former act.
Sir M. W. RIDLEY opposed the Bill.
Sir T. AC:LAND supported the Bill. He thought there was
no resemblance between bear-baiting and fox-hunting, and con-
tended that the cruelties they had heard detailed that night were
not only of a demoralioing, but of a brutalising tendency, and such
us were the most likely to furor those who had concerted the con-
spiracy of Cato-street.
Mr. ROBERTSON briefly opposed it.
The House then divided, when there appeared—For the Amend-
ment, 50—Against it, 32.—Majority against the Bill, Di.
l'he other Orders of the Day were then disposed of, and the
House Adjourned at ONE o'Caoc tr.

PRICES OF FORERIN
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MINES.
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A NOLO-MEXICAN MINING ASSOCIATION.
The DIRECTORS of the ASSOCIATION for assisting
in working the MINES of MEXICO and other parts of Spanish
America, having made a call of FIVE POUNDS on each of the
Shares of the Association, under the powers vested In them by the
Peed, the Proprietors are requested to pay the same, on the amount
of their respective Shares, to Mews. BARCLAY, TR ITTON,
BLVAN, and CO. on or before the 12th day of April next.
JO:.,EPII LOWE, Secretary.
147, Leadenhall.street, Bth March, 1828.

Vie Stitigift WOO.

THEATRE ROYAL, 1)111.70"-LANE.
This Evening, SATURDAY March will by performed
DER FRIRISCItt• ry.
Ottocar. the Prince, Mr. Mercer: Bernhard. Head Ranger. Mr. Bed.
ford: Hermit, Mr. G. Smith; Adolph, Mr. T. Cooke: Casper. Mr
Bern; Lilian, Kiusinati to the tlead Ranger. Mr.Fitznilliam; Demot
of the Harts, Mr. Dowell: Zamiel. Mr. O. smith; Witch of the Caen,
Mr. Blanchard. Linda. Mies GraddAn; Boise. Mite Porte.
Alter which anewPaatoralßallet. salted

THE Itt:halt.NOL;
Or, THE BIRD IN Tilt HLSH.
Tim Principal Characters by Mr. and Mrs. Noble, die.
To conclude with Dtd time) the new Farce of
kNlig PAIITNENt,
The Principal Characters by Messrs. Wallack, 'Wight, and Harley;
Miss Povey, and Mrs. Yates.
On Monday', King Richard the Third, and the Pantomime.

T'H EXTRA' ROYAI.. COVENT-GARDEN.
Thls Evening. SATE R V, Mooch 12, will be performed
SHE STOOPS TO CONQUER.
Hartaastle, Mr. Fawcett ono,: Marlow. Mr. Jones; Tony Lumpkin,
Mr. !Seeley. Miss Ilistileastle, Miss Foote.
After which.
TWELVE PRECISELY.
Amelia Wildlove. Mrs. Chatterley.
To roadside with
ANIMAL MAGNETISM.
Matquis de Laney, Mr. Cermet i Dffetor, Mr. W. /linen; La Fleur. qtr.
raWeett ; Jeffrey. Mr. Meadows. I.Asecte, Mrs. Gibbs.

THEATRE ROYAL, ENGLISH OPERA HOUSE;
STA AND.
MR. MATHEWS AIHOME:
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Evening, sATI.; D.t V, March 14, and o7i Mondays, Thursday',
and Saturdays,
MR. M %THEWS" MEMOR 1N nUM-RoOK
of Peculiarities, areeers, and Mariners, collected during hi. various
Trips.
Savas—.' Memoranda in Cunfusion"--.. Night Coach"—" Subblet."
repltei Sorg—. Saflin; Match"—" old and New Tinier kulsbee
urnee. Mow-street.
Pear I llL—a Mvinopolylogue, to be called
THE CROWN INN MANGER.
Down open at Seven; the Performance to cowmen", at Elgin. Places
t., be taken of Mr. Stevensuu. at the Box-office, Sitrand Entrance, from
'feu till fries.
Cleriox.—The new Entertainment will not be printed; and all
Books professing so contain any parts of It are gross impositions and
frauds on the Pu.iic.

• ADEI,PIII THEATRE,
STRAND.
This Ersatz'''. S ITURDAV, March 12, will be presented
%ALMOND!:
Or, THE UNHALLOWED SEPULCHRE.
The Prlnelpal Characters by Messrs. Campbell, Poser, Lee. Peens,
Na:llers. J. Reeve, W. !frown, and Elllntt; Signor Paulo, Mesdames
Bryan, Brown, Daly, and Parrock.
After whleh true Comic Ballet of
OPeOSITION.
To conclude with the Burlesque of
QUA I/ R UPE DS.
Francisco, Mr.Wllkinson; Abraham Mes, Mr. J. Reeve.

The Banal, Puss commenced publishing yaterclay morning
at fire o'clock.

LONDON, SATURDAY, MARCH 12, IS2i.
The Paris Papers of IVednes lay contain nothing of
much interest to the English public. The discussion of
the Law of Indemnity is not concluded, but it is no longer
calculated to excite even the slightest sensation of curiosity
is this country. The amendments debated on Tuesday
rimed merely to the &tails of execution. Six articles
tompesing the first title of the law have been adopted.
The Chamber had begun the consideration of the second
title, regulating the admiasion of claim:tilts to the inelem-
Lily, and the mode of its liqui.lation. The Papers either
wire not, or do not choose to say anything on this subject.
The King of SPAIN, it appeare, is busy with his Mi-
-1 itters re:;peeting the new American States and his finances,
but nothing is known as to what passes. One act of retri-
butive justice at least has been performed : the ('resident
L. the Tribunal of Purification has been himself exiled.
This is somewhat like the burning of an Inquisitor-
General. Nobcdy can pity the sufferer. Fr art x•xn is
endeavouring to organise an army. He should first provide
funds for maintaining it. Ile may purify the service as
he can ' • but while he cannot secure the fidelity of his sol-
diery by paying them regularly, he will always be in dan-
ger idrevolutionary movements amongst them. Qt: Roc •
was the very officer who brought him the despatches an-
nouncing the failure of Lacy's revolt, and Ill: est ue
commanded the Royalist forces with which the insurrec-
tion of the Mexican patriot, HIDALGO, was suppressed.
So much are men the creatures of circumstances, and so
little can their abstract principles be relied upon for the
guidance of their practical course !
The Menderr of Wednesday contains, in the official
part, only an ordinance of the Kist; relative to the duties
ti.) be levied on the Canals of Orleans and Loing.
Fasscn Fusros.—PAnis, Mmtew 9.—Jouiss. of Sept. 22,
dosed at lea. usc.; 3. of March 22, opened at 103 f. 30c.;
tileed at 193 r. me.; Bank Stock, 24.130 f.; Nenpolitan, a per
tent. Certif. releonnet. If. 25c.; Rente d'Espagne, 20f.; Royal
e?anish Loan 11123, 391; Exchange on London—one niontb, 2M.;
three ditto, 24f. 85c.—Conn Autheittique, March 9.

In the German Papers received yesterday, we have a
:Jrmitlable statement of what the Turks intend to do next
:ampaign against the Greeks, provided the latter will not
for their defence avail themselves of either their naval
i'Jrre or their army, and provided it be found as prre-
ticable to bring troops into the field without money, as it
is to muster them upon paper. The plan of the cam-
paign is precisely that of the valiant Bobadil. Four vast
armies are to be raised ; the first numerous, the second
more numerous, the third most numerous, the fourth
more numerous still. With these armies, province after pr -
%ince is tube taken, and finally every inch of the Mores is to
he subdued. "True," says the German Chronicler of things
wonderful, " neither the Greek naval farce, nor the Greek
irmy is taken into account." This is a trifling omission
iertainlyin planning a campaign; but if men like Boz
!Asia and CANARDS should interfere with the smooth
irogress of lillAillM PACIIA, of course they are to be
~.1101 off at once. " Twenty more, kill them too." Un-
toubtedly, if the Greeks will agree not to resist, nothing
will be easier than to reduce them to obedience; but if
'hey should be disposed to beat the Turks as soundly next
unmer as they have done evtry previous summer since
beginning of the contest, they will indeed be more than
a match for RacHia and 11311A111161," and all the hosts
if NI ussultuans now or hereafter to be formed.
The Journal des Debuts of Wednesday, in allusion to
lie reports fabricated in London to depress the Greek
scrip, states, that the examination of the private de-
patches at Boulogne and Calais last week had no relation
:1 the affairs of either Greece or America, and suggests
est, like the stoppage of the Spanish couriers, it was pro-
iwbis only a measure intended to serve the interests of
Ininkcre who are connected with men in office. The
that France is inimical to Greece is almost too ridi-

culous to deserve even this notice ; but we see that the
wildest rumours are artfully ►nade the instruments of mis-
chievous purposes.

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By the information from Germany in the French Papers
it appears that the progress of constitutional opinions gives
rive to some disquietude among the Powers of the Holy
Alliance. At this moment the Legislative Bodies of three
German States are sitting, and joy and confidence arc spread
among the people, who behold in these infant institutions
the pledges of their future freedom and prosperity. In
Bavaria it has been customary to allow the newspapers to
publish a brief Report of the debates of the States-Omit-
ral some time after they have taken place, in the same
r.:anner, we suppose, and to much the same extent to the
debates of the British Parliament were published before the
days of WooI:TALL. Attempts have been made to prevail
upon the King of Bsysata to put an end to these pub-
lications; but there is ret:son to believe that this sensible
and libels' Prince will not comply with the insolent re-
quisition of his powerful neighbour. His former conduct
leaves no doubt, we think, that Le will support the consti-
tutional rights of his people. if he can.
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We had anticipated, as our readers will remember, that
the Resolution moved by Mr. Hume, "That no Mem-
ber should vote for, or against, any question in which he
has a direct pecuniary interest," was not at all likely to be
carried ; and, as we expected, so it happened—it was nega-
tived without a divisiou. We willingly give credit to Mr.
Hen, for having moved this Resolution with the very
best intentions. The public have been much his debtor on
many occasions. It would be uneandid not to admit that
much has been won by his strenuous exertions in the cause
of economical reform. If he has plied his warfare too in-
cessantly, it is an error that may bo forgiven him ; there
is no great danger of his example beguiling others to the
same excess. But with all our respect fur his zeal, and
with all our gratitude for his service, we find ourselves
often compelled to differ front him on questions which
em-
brace a wide extent of reasoning, and where the measure he
would propose involves consequences which it requires deep
reflection to foresee, and great wisdom to provide against.
The incapacitating a Member from voting on any question
in which he might have a pecuniary interest was a measure
of this sort. It could only be supported by arguments,
which, in the inference to be drawn from them, were a
libel on our whole system of legislation. The very terms
of his Resolution went to impeach the moral honesty of
every Member of the House. "So anxious," said the
Hon. Member, " had their ancestors been, at all times, to
preserve the administration of justice pure, that long esta-
blished laws gave to either party in a suit the right of chal-
lenging. If, then, the evils of partiality were guarded
against in the inferior Courts, how much more necessary
was it that Parliament, the highest tribunal in the ling-
! dom, should be free, not only from absolute partiality, but
even from the suspiciunof it ?" To all this we assent ; but
surely, if this be true, the Resolution of the Honourable
MeMber and his reasoning• were at variance ; for what
stronger suspicion can be ►cast on the integrity of Parlia-
ment than this very measure, the professed object of
which was to remedy the evils arising from the want of
it? There is besides—as we before observed when touch-
ing on this subject—no analogy between the Legislature
and the Courts of Law, and it would be preposterous to
apply to the one the principles which prevail in the when
For example ; on a motion for the repeal of the Window
Tax, would not many Members on whom this tax may
chance to fall heavily be ultimately benefited by such re-'
peal, although their particular interest might not be such
as to induce them to vote against the general interest of the
country and of the revenue? Did it ever occur to any
man, either in his senses or out of them, that such Metn-
hers should not be suffered to vote on such a motion ?
Surely never. But if we apply the rules which regulate
the testimony of witnesses in the Courts below, their vote
would be rejected without further discussion; for the rule
there is, that " that though a witness may not have any
interest in the cause wherein he is called as a witness, yet
if in its event he may be ultimately benEfited, he shall be
inadmissible." We adduce this instance merely to illus-
trate the impossibility of carrying the maxims of a legal
into a legislative tribunal, the proceedings of the one being
wholly different, both in their origin and their end, from
those of the other. Our judicial tribunals, moreover, de-
cide beforehand, and on principles of legal expediency, as
to what degree of interest shall go to the credit, and what to
the competency of a witness. But Parliament could make
no such distinction: the casa of each individual Member
must there stand upon its own circumstances, and the I
House must decide either on an inquisition or a rare dire,
whether his interest is such as justifies a presumption that
it may create partiality or not? It is not difficult to fore-
see, not only to what degrading imputations, but to what
delay and confusion, such inquests would give rise.
The strong language in which Mr. Peet. reprobated the
practice of such Members as canvassed for the support of
others, towards any Bill in which they had an interest, was
highly creditable to him as a Minister, and honourable to
him is a man. It cannot fail to repress that predominance
of personal motives which is but too conspicuous in Par-
liamentary Committees. '!'his evil has long called for
some apposite check, and it can have none more effectual
than the severe reproach which the most leading Members
of the House have recently cast upon it.

(Try, FRIDAY EVENING.

A general gloom pervaded the Money Markets this morn-
ing. The English Funds were heavy. and not much busi-
ness doing in them. The same prices may be quoted for
Consols during the whole day, viz. 932 for money and
93i 94 for the account.

In the Foreign Market the principal depression was in
Greek Scrip, which was at one time at 3 discount. It
afterwards recovered a little, and left off at 24. The
decline to-day, it was stated on 'Change, was occasioned
by the reports in the German Papers, as to the great pre-
parations making by the Turks for the next campaign
against the Greeks; but we believe that the depression
might more properly be ascribed to the proceedings of the
cabal to which we have before alluded. T he 7 made a
powerful effort to-day, as to-morrow is the day for paying
another instalment on account of the Loan ; but the im-
preFsion in the market generally was, that at no distant
period it would be at a premium again. The Old Greek
Bands were at 531 54. The South American Securities
were flat; Mexican Scrip, 1525, was done at lik to 4, and
the Brazilian Scrip 34 A. Spanish Bonds were done at
20, and those of 1'4'23 at 194.
India Stock seems to have recovered from the decline
it experienced for a short time yesterday on account of the
late news from Calcutta. The Bonds were firm at 90, and
the Stock was 1811 to 1824.
The Shares, with the exception of Pasco Peruvians, and
the Colombian Agricultural Company, partook of the
gloom that was apparent in the Money Market ; the
former left off' at 331; the latter were eagerly sought
after at 17. The New Mexican Company's Shares were
done at 94. and the Atlantic and Pacific at 4 premium.
There was little or nothing doing in Railroads. We heard
the Liverpool and Manchester quoted once in the conrw of
the day at 55.
The Biscaina and Moran Mine Association Shares are
expected to be out in a few days. Great interest iv excited
towards this Cumpar.., the applications for Shares having
been unprecedentedly numerous.
Every thit', was flat in the Colonial Market. There
was a sale of Foreign Coffee. the result of which was, a
decline in the price of from vs. to 9s. per cwt. There was
nothing doing in Sugars or Spices.

THE BRITISH PRESS.

FRENCH PAPERS.

( From the Eloik, dated Thurtedny.l
,MADRID, FES. 24.
Thit morning, at eight o'clock, an extraanlinary courier arrived
from France, who alighted et the office of the Minister of Finance,
and whose despatch?' relate to the loan.
'Fhe King hail forbidden himself all labour in the Cabinet with
Lis Ministers, except in cases of the highest importance. His
Majesty has not tong enjoyed the repose which he had promised
himself, and which is so necessary to his health. He assembles
rowinually the Council of Ministers, and even presides in it.
Persons initiated in State matters affirm that the despatches
of Russia and England, which have been pssesented to him by the
A mbassaclors of these Powers, are the cause of this activity in cur
C bluets
A Decree of his Majesty for the suppression of smuggling has
just appeared. Movable columns will be employed to traverse the
provinces and to check its pernicious effects. The evil is too inve-
terate. Let us have good custom-house officers, well clothed, well
paid ; they will at length become less venal, and contraband trade
will gradually cease.
M. Snbrado, sen. of the Supreme Council of Castile, and Pre-
sident of the Tribunal of Purifications, has just been exiled te
Alcata tie Henares, instead of baying taken the portefeuille of the
Department of Justice, as was reported. Some persons think that
his discharge is owing to the read of blesses. Villsgamez, 3lsris,
and LarvuMbide to the Council of Castile, to whose dismissal he is
said to have greatly contributed last year ; but this assertion seems
in opposition to what was stated r.t the time, namely, that those
Councillors were ilistnisaed for having miposed the liberal system
adopted by the et-Ministers Cruz and Glans.
The greatest activiy is exerted in the war departments for the
organisation of the army. It is observed with pleasure that the
Government will not approve of all the military commissions
granted by the Provincial Royalist Juntas, or by their lifilitary
Chiefs. Throtigh Out esteem is felt for the good principles, the
talents, the merit, the education, and the services of most of those
' officers, inferior commis/ions are given them, to avoid the fault
which was committed after the war of independence, when all the
officers were confirmed in the rank which had been given them
provisionally.—lt is known how some of them returned such
generosity.

PARIS. MARCO SI.
The Government of Baden has laid before the Second Chamber
a project of law, to enact that the election of the members shall be
sexennial ; that the Assembly of the States shall meet once every
three years, and that the budget shall be decreed alto for three
years.
From the Journal der Debella of Tuesday.FRANKFORT, MARCH 4.
The States. General of the Kingdom of Bavaria, those of the
Grand Duchy of Baden, and also of Nassau, all assembled at one
dote, offer an interesting spectacle, but there is a little inquietude
mixed with the feeling of joy caused by this activity in our infant
institutions ; tut this inquietude is fortunately balanced by the
confidence of ae Garman people in the intentions of their Sovereign.
The King of Bavaria has again, it is said, been solicited by a
Foreign Power again to restrain the publicity of the Sittings of
the States-General. It is not thought he will yield his consent,
inasmuch as the Bavarian Journals have never given any more
than a sketch of the debates long after their conclusion.

GERMAN PAPERS.

3IEDITTILRASEAN COAST, Fes. 18.
In a letter from Pera the following particulars are given of the
plan of the esrupaign against the Greeks, which is said to be finally
adolted, and for the execution of which preparations are now malt-
ing. According to this plan, the Porte will employ no less than
four armies to subdue the Morea and the continent a Greece. The
first of these armies is to consist of the troops asseinbled along the
Asiatic coast, and will be conveyed thence to the Peloponneii-
sus in European transports, escorted by the Turkish fleet. The
Capitan Peel's, it is said, will nut take the chief command of this
fleet, in order to avoid all miiundirstanding with Ibrahim Pacha,
to whom the supreme direction of the entire expedition against the
Greeks will be confided : this is in conformity with a tirman of
the Sultan, long ago addressed to Ibrahim Pacha, and which is
now to he renewed. The second army, under the command of
Ibrahim in person, is to consist of the Egyptian troops, and to
land in the Mores. The third and most, numerous army is to be
organised by Rcrhib Puha at Larissa, and to consist of all the
troops that can be spared in Eopielia, Bulgaria, Macedonia, and
on the Plantibe. A part of the garrison of Constantinople is to join
this army, the nucleus of which will he formed of the troops now
in Thessaly, which made the last campaign under Dervisch Yacht'.
The fourth army, which is intended to co-operate with the first, is
to consist entirely of Albanian troops ; for which purpose negocis.
tions are now carrying on with the Albanian Chiefs. This latter
artily, to be commanded by the Pacha of Scutari, will advance to
Etolia, while Ilechib Paths penetrates into Livadia. After the
subjcction of these two provinces, all these troops are to be con-
veyed to the Mores. lit this plan of the campaign, which certainly
seems to have much to reeprnmend it, neither the Greek naval force
nor the Greek army is taken into account. The Greeks are no
more afraid of the Paella of Scutari thau of the Capitan Bey. They
hope to be a match for Hechib and Ibrahim, who cannot co-operate
with each other otherg Cor resyouth tit.

F.I3IIIONABLE IN"! ELLIGSNCE.

Emily ►Marchioness of Lendnedeery entertained an elegant circle
r fashionable% yesterday evening at her house is *. James's-
mare.

1 ha Bishop of Salisbury had a grand dinner patty yesterday at
his house in Upper Seymour-street.
Lord Berwick will have a grand dinner party to-nrarrow at his
house in Grosvetior-sissare.
Lady Grantham he; issued cards of Invitation for a party on
Tuesday next at her house in St. Jamea's.sqiiiire.
Airs. Philips has lamed cards of invitation for a musical party on
the 24th inst. at her house in Alount-street, Grosvenor-square.
The Marchioness of Westmeath has arrived in town Simla visit to
their Royal Highnesses the Doke and Duchess of Clarence, !Smoky.
Dowager Lady Ellenborosigh arrived in town yesterday from a
tour.
Sir George Duckett, Bart. arrived in town yesterday from his
seat, Tbeobald's Palk. Hants.
Mrs. Booth left town yesterday for her seat, Glendon Bell, Ket-
tering.
Lord Rivers has arrived in town from his seat, near New-
market.
Miss Elliot has arrived at Baroness De Willotighby's, White-
hall. from Koehampton,
Lady Caroline Limb has arrived at Lord MelLourne's, White-
haN. from her seat, Bracket Hall.
The lion. Air. and Mrs. Robert Smith have arrived' in !mention)
their teat in Buck•.

The Hon. Colonel Stanhope has arrived in town from a tour.
.1. Tooke, EIN. has arrived in town from the Continent.
Departures from the Pulteney Hotel, Albemarle. street:—Mr.
id Mrs. Norton fur their seat itt Hants, and Captain Duncan fur
ortsmouth.

_
Departure from the British Hotel and Mrs. Miller for
the Continent; Captain Railton fur Brighton; and William Stewart.
Esq. for Cambridge.
Departures front the St. Petersburah Hotel, Dover-street:—
W. iVrlttn Becher, Esq. M.P. for Wales; Sir James Duff and
family far his seat, in Suisse: Count de Lidloflie for Russia;
W. 11. Sergerson, Esq. for Uuckheld Park, Sussex ; Lord and
Lady Eliot -for the Duke of Beaufort's ; the lion. H. and Mrs.
Knox for Brighton; and General Brown for Clifton.
Arrivals et the Royal Hotel, St. James's-street:—W. ■. Dow-
biggin, Esq. :Ira. Dowbiggin, Mr. Ramsey Aloule, J. J. Guest,
Esq. and Bushe, Esq. Departures :-.-J. Sparks, Esq. Sir
Wm. Hotham, G. S. Smith, -7-- Ward, Esq. and E Wolsten-
holm!, Esq. for Ireland.