Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-10-15 00:00:00

THE DOUBLE MURDER NEAR BATE.

At the aej mrnel inquest on Tue.cl
,y, Charles King, bailiff to Mr.
Skiine, gave evidence which sent to show that the unf3rtur.ate man
Miller was not in a eoun3 sate of m nd on .zaturdsy, Vac day on
which the tragic occurrence taok piece. Mr. Conway Edwards, th
enrgeo proved that the i'eaths af Border and his wife resulted from
the injuries i .flictel upon them,. and the jury, under the direction of
the coroner, who told thein that the etas - of }fiber's mind mast be
inquired into before another tri'ounal, returned a var,ii:t of ' Wife
Mut4;T" aganst mass Miller. The pris ris said to bo r,=rer-
ins. from Nis self- ntlicied wounds.

Ro73' ruING MADE WITH a EAT T4STE, st LtWlS:sad
C(IMPANY'3, Itanelagh-street.

No WONDER -=Jones, wha is a stn lent of bumnt
matur , says th tt the restles.s ambition of women is• well
exe 11)116 41 b? the fict that :chew i,he is woa by her lover,
and her lover is wan by her, she is still dissatisfied uatd
b are one in a- other set se. •
AN INCIDE.NT AT THE SOCIAL CONGIESS little
commotion was caused outride the committee-r ion) door of
the Town nap, on Mond .y nigh', by the di,c-very at the
eleventh hour that. Lord Br ugh m had mislaid the M of
hislartu.;ural Aldress. His lordship, who had started ler
the hall, at once retmred to the residence of J Winfield,
Eq., with whom he is sea, in :, to prosecute a search f r it.
It turned out, however, mo,t opportunely, that, with very
laudable anxiety for its sale y, Mr. Winfield had tillers
charge of it, an I had a ready arrived at the hall. A mes-
senger was instantly des ;ward to his lordship, announcing
this fact. The noble lord arrived immediately, and the
threatened unpleasantness was fortunately averted.-Bir-
minghans Journal.
iii ALLEGED F` MB BY THE LATE PAYMASTI
OF THE STH 1 ANCASHIHE MILITIA.—At the B,w street
mrt, on Tuesday, C iptain Holler, formerly PAY-
master of the 5.11 Lancashire Millar, was br. uelt t p on
remand, charged with misappropriating £1,153 .of the
putlic money. Mr. Grey c )ntendel that the c ise did not
tone within the meaning of the Act, and that this was not
emb, zzletnent, but simply an unp ba'ance oe account.
Nir. Jardine was strongly of opinion that i, did cone
within the meani.mg of the Act, bat it would be open to the
d. le.,ce to rai-e er)e question at the trial. lie should com-
mit the defendant for trial. •

At L 7 WI) & CO I PANT'S, Earielagh-street.
BUTS are CLOTHED from the Agas o: Six to Tweuty Year

TOWN COUNCIL.

The monthly meeting of the Town Council was held in
the Town Hall, at eleven o'clock yesterday : the Mayor,
leitANC IS SHAND, , in the chair.

MUNICIPAL REGISTRATIONS -FRIVOLOUS OBJECTIONS.
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Before the business commenced Xr. Alderman Holrne
rose and said : Mr. Mayer, it has a'wsys been the custom
of the council, ever since I had a so .t here, that any
question of privilege bhoutd take prerodeuce of the
regular business; and, al'hongh the question, which I
deem it right to bring before the council, is one in which
we are not, specifically and direely, concerned, inasmuch,
as it, unfortunately, receives the sanction of the law, we
are most cf us indirectly concerned in it, because, by it,
our seats have been jeopodised, our time has been wasted,
and many of us have been put to Nary serious inconven
ience. You have been engaged, Mr. Mayor, for many
days, early and late, in the revision of the burgess list,
and among the 3,220 persons who had been objected to
in a wholesale manner, during the present revision, I find
a g-eat number of members of tlis council; I find a
aum'acr of the oldest and most respected of our magistrates ;
fiat a number of tradesmen, who are holding promisee
for which they pay enormous parochial rates ; I find
many of our :feedbag shopkeepers, nay, t'ir, members e f all
classes in the community, so much so, that much time has
been wasted, and much vexation has been caused. (Hear,
hear.) A great number of gentlemen, of whose right to
the possession of the franchise there cannot be the least
shadow of a doubt, have been, most unjustly, althosgh, as
I have said, unfortunately, wi.h legal sanction, deprived of
their franchise. Among them, is a gentleman, who sits
here, at my left hen I—Mr. Earle. A remedy is required,
sir, for this state thing, (hear, hear) —and that remedy
roast be sought. As it has been said, that wherever a
crowd is set in motion, some person must move, I shall
deem it right, and I give this notice of my intention,
at the earliest anti most convenient opportunity, at the
time when ministers shall have assembled to take into
consideration their future bills before parliament, to bring
the subject formally before the council. I shall
not enter into any particulars connected with the subject
now, but I merely give the public notice, that
the subject may be ventila'ed in the meantime, and
that it may be discussed by the inhabitants, by whom I
think my proposition will be acceded to. In any notice
which may be brought forward for amending the repre-
sentation, I should be desirous that the parliamentary and
the municipal represeirativos should be assimilated, so
that there should be no occasion for the registrations, but
that he who had the privileg t of voting for the one should
have the privilege of voting for the other. (Hear, hear.)
I should likewise, sir, make the overseer or some author-
ised person liable for the enrollment of all those who are
legally qualified, and have a right to vote, and I would
throw the onus upon the party who makes the objection,
and not upon the individual who is himself objected to.
(Cheers.) I would ge farther, sir, and give power to the
Court to levy a penalty not exceeding 45, in every case
where there was a frivolous and vexatious objection, which
the individual who made it wits not able to mus•ain Sir,
I shall produce, I am perfectly sari fled, when the proper
oeca ion arrives, such a mass of reasons for the couree
which I shall deem it my public duty to adopt, that I
am satisfied gentlemen of all parties aul of every shade of
political opinion, will join in a memorial for the purpose
of abating what has become a mast intolerable nuisance,
and doing away pith what has become a flag-ant injustice.
(Hear, hear.)
Mr. R JEFFERY : Sir, I quite concur in the remarks
-which have just fallen from the deputy-chairman of the
Finance Committee ; and I think these remarks are very
opportune indeed, seeing that, in all probability, in another
session, a change will be effec'ed by the legislature. It is
very opportune that the abuse which has been so well
referred to, should be laid bare before the Government as
early as possible, that they should have the benefit of full
infor.nation from those who have suffered practically by
this inconvenience.

FINANCZ CONUITTEE.

The proceedings of this committee contained the
following:—Recommendation to purchase freehold property
at the corner of 8h tw's-bro ,v and Byrom etreet, containing
about 218 square yards of land, with houses, shops, and
-warehouses thereon, belonging to Mr. Bradshaw, for the
stun cf £3,500. Recommendation that the discretion
given by and contained in the Act of 7 Wm. IV., and 1
Viet c. 19, as to the appointment of an assistant or dsputy-
recorder, should at the next sessions be exercised by the
recorder. Recommendation to appoint Police-constables
Raton and Patrick to perform the duties of sub-bailiff,
and that they be paid £lO per annum each for such duties.
Recommendation to grant the reversion of the site of a
pry posed Wesleyan Chapel and Schools in Grove-street
and Vine-street, containing 2,078 yards of land, for the
Rum of 1335, subject to the approval of the Lords of the
Treasury. Recommendation to accept the tender of
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Me sew gaol, Walton, at the prices set forth in their lender.
Recommendation to grant permission to Messrs. Jackson,
pursuant to sth and 6th Victoria, cap. 106, Section 97,.t0
bring forward a portion of the front of their premises in
Thomas-street, so as to form a straight line of street
Recommendation to appoint Mr. Hamilton Cambridge to
the situation of inward computer, in the Town Dues Office,
vice Mr. Craven, resigned, at the salary of £125 per
annum, being the salary received by his predecessor.
Recommendation to appoint a master, 1-t and 2nd ma.e,
and 12 men, as the crew of the north landing-stage.
Mr. HORNBY moved that the several recommendations
specified be confirmed, which was seconded by Mr. Alder-
man S Holme, and agreed to.
Mr. ROBERTSON GLADSTONE asked whether the Council
had &mustily completed the conveyance of a piece of land,
containing some 3,360 square yards, given to the Govern-
meet some time since, for the purpose of making a fort at
Liscard. Some inquiry had taken place into the matter,
with the view of ascertainirg with what possible good a fort
there ecml3 do in defending the town of Liverpool, in case
it should be attacked. It would appear to him that if the
fort were erected there, it might very well be denominated
Fort Suicide, for it could only throw shot into our own
ships, and knock down our o en people. (Hear, hear, and
laughter.) It vas very well known that in this time forts
had very much gone out of date and that a man-of war,
with a screw propeller, would give a fort very small chance
cf doing her any damage. (Hear, hear.) Now, under
those circumstances, he would ask if it was not possible
for the Council to address some remonstrance to the
Government upon the subject. (Hear, hear) The question
had been already brsught before the Dock Committee
by Mr Bold, and he (Mr. Gladstone) took blame to
himself for not having been more fully acquainted
with the precise circumstances of the case. Seeing
that the town could not derive any advantage whatever
from such a huge outlay of money on the part of the
government, Fe would suggest that the Council should,
if it were possible, interfere by remonstrance in some way.
(Hear, hear) The defence of the town, he conceived,
would require something which could move about the
river, a block ship, or something of the sort, for he was
assured from the best possible sources, that from the fort
so protection whatever could be derived.
Mr. 11011NRY entirely agreed with Mr. Gladstone in the
opinion he Expressed. as to the site of the government
fort. So far as he had heard, there was only one opinion
entertained in the town of Liverpool as to the absurdity
of the proposed fort. (Hear, hear). But, so far as the
Council were concerned, he did not think they had any
power to interfere in the matter. 'l hey had already made
over the site to the government, and he did not see how
they could take upon themselves to advise the government
upon such a question. The town of Liverpool was very
much interested in having proper defences made, but with
regard to the Council, all that body had to do was to
grant the portion of land. He believed the site had been
already made over.
The Tows CLIME—Yes, sir.
Mr. HOENBY said, as owners of the property, therefore,
he did not think they had any power to interfere further.
Mr. CHARLES TURNER said, during the Russian war a
great alarm was felt in the t wn as to the total want of
defences for the property and shipping of the port.
,Remonstrances were made by one of the mayor's prede-
cessors upon the subject, and the consequence of these
remonstrances was, that the subject was taken up by the
Government. Several forts were suggested by the proper
authorities to be placed upon the Liverpool side of the
river, but these forts would entail, no doubt, very great
inconvenience to the shipping and trade of the port. It
was not, he believed, the intention of the Government to
proceed with the erection of these forte, with the exception
of a fort at the extreme end of the present wall, and the
fort at Liscard. He explained, that the only way in
which Vie question came before the Dock Committee was,
that during the mayoratity of Mr. Tobin, a tracing. not a
plan, of she fort was laid before the committee, for the
purpose of ascertainisg whether the Dock Committee would
consent to have a boat-house, belonging to them and
adjoining the site, enclosed in the wall of defence. This
was the only question asked of the committee, and the
committee gave their consent, and he, as chairman,
put his signature to the tracing accordingly. If it
were the general opinion of the town that the fort would be
useless, the Dock Committee would concur in any remon-
strance which the Council might think fit to make. At
the same time, he was of opinion that the C,uncir by
granting the land, appeared to give their assent to the site
of the fort. It was for the Counci to consider how far it
was likely that their remonstrance would be received,
being an unprofessional remonstrance against the opinions
of professional men.
Mr. Ems did not think it signified one straw what the
professional men thought. If the Government were going
to commit a great et of folly, was there any inconstancy

in the Council trying to preveat them from doing so?
(Hear, hear.) He thought there was none.
Mr. BOLD said the Dock Committee were never asked
whether it was desirable that the firt should be placed at
the magszinea. (near, hear) If a wall were built, and
a pier made from Seacombe to the prevent fort, the fort
now contemplated would be thrown entirely into the back
ground ; and if ,a vessel wore to be struck by a gun horn
that fort, it must be fired either through the college which
was there, or through the landing-stage at New Brighton ;
so that heron an enemy's vessel could be at all injured,
she wculd be in a position to throw shells into our docks,
and destroy them. (Hear, hear.) His impression was
that a block-ship would be useful, which, if an attack were
apprehended, might be sent out to the Bell-buoy to prevent
an enemy's ship from entering the river.
Mr. GARDNER agreed in the necessity of addressing some
remonstrance to the Government.

Mr. FitufL moved that the subject be reerred to the
Firance C3mmi tee, t 3 corder w.th the Dock Committee,
and report to the CJuneil what crane they deemed adviia-
ble t..) take

Mr. ANDERSON suggested that the opinions of the
Council and Dock Surcejor should be taken upon the
subject.
Mr JOIIN STEWART said thl Council ought to know that
if they stirred in the matter at all, no time should be lost,
for he had reason to believe that the specifications would
be out very shortly to receive tenders from bailders. The
Beard of Ordnance had never consulted the Council or the
Dock Committee as to the policy or impolicy of the fort
being erected there. (Hear, hear.) He c incurred with
the opinion which had already been expressed that although
the Government hsn not consulted then at ail, it was their
bounden duty to protect the county from the outlay of an
expense which appeared to his mind, and to the minds of a
great many oth,re, to be perfectly usele3s. (Hea-, hear.)
Any one who knew the expense which had bean glue to
for building forts in Liverpool, and the removing them in
two or three years, would agree with him that the Council
ought, if possible, to take some steps in the matter.
Mr. TuaNse said he did intend to oppose the motion of
Mr Shell, which he thought a vary proper motion He
suggested that it would be lof tter to have a request ad-
dressed to the Board of Ordnance, to review their Qwn
decision, than for the Council to obtain an opinion from
their own officers, which opinion the Board of Ordnance
might not consider as good as that of their officers.
Mr. Alderman lIOL HE perfectly agreLd that the fort in
the position now suggested would be a perfect piece of
absurdity ; just about as absurd as the fort placed upon
the Liverpool tiie of the river, which seemed to have
been built there for no other purpose than to bombard the
people of Cheshire. (Hear, hear, and laughter.) He was
aware that measures were being taken for geeing contracts
to proceed immediately with the work, and, therefore, if
the Council adjourned the consideration of the subject
until a report was made by the Finance Committee, the
cout acts would be entered into, and it would be too late.
He suggested that the question should be referred to a
special committee, with power to make such a remonstrance
with the government, as in their opinion might be desira-
ble, and w mid name as that special committee, Messrs
Horaby, Charles Turner, Robertson Gladstone, John
Stewart, and Bold.
Me. WOODRUFF seconded the motion.

In answer to a question from Mr. Picton,
The Tow.v CLERK said that representations lied been
made to the Government that the pert of Liverpool was
in an unpro+ected state. 'These representations were laid
before the Board of Ordnance, and the Corporation wore
applied to to know what laud they had upon which a fort
might be erected. All the vacant spaces of land which the
Corporation lrAl were laid before the Government, and the
present site was seleced. He believed the anveyance
specified that the land was given for the purpose of build-
ing a fort.
Mr. Picrox presumed that the subject had been brought
under the notice of the Finance Committee. and coteiiered
at the time, and was at a loss to know what new light had
sprung up since upon the question.
After some Curtner conversation,

The MAYOR suggested that Mr. IMme should withdraw
his motion, and allow that of Mr. Sheil to piss. Mr.
Holrae deferred to this suggestion, and-the motion of Mr.
Sheil, referring the subject to the Finance C,mmitte, was
passed accordingly.
The general protoedirgi were confirmed.

11ACanEY CARRIAGE BYZ LAMS.

The Council then proceeded to consider the altered
bye-laws fur the regulation of hackney carriages. This
subject had been several times postponed in consequence
of tne number of members of the Council 'required by law
not being present when it was brought up. It was taken
at this st-age of the proeeeding., the requi3ite number of
members being present.
Mr. Woonauer said, for some months back the public
or eedieient euit7;e persons 13a- tieing. present to pars
the bye-laws. Every ten years or se, in such a community
as that, it became necessary to revise the bye-laws-affecting
carriage traffic. Although the bye-laws passed in 1848
and in 1851 were considered at the time• as- perfect as
possible, yet the increase of the traffic and of the town
since then rendered it absolutely necessary- that some
changes should be made. In the first plane he had to ask
the consent of the Council for power to withdraw the
authority to have stands in certain strews. In those locali-
ties, at the time the arrangements were Made, there was no
objection to having the stands there ; but now, in many
places where important property surrounded them,. they be-
came public nuisances. Some additional stands were also
required, in consequence of the increase in the commerce of
the town. The necessity for these additional, stands was
made the greater by the nuisance arieingfrom cabs driving
up and down the streets, locking out for fares, by which
the already overcrowded thoroughfares were rendered yet
more crowded. The magistrates indicted the smallest
penalty possible in such cases, and that with the greatest
reluctance, so long as there was not sufficient accommoda-
tion for stands provided. The passing of the amended
bye-law would secure to the inhabitants as much cemfart
and facility as could possibly be given, at the same time
securing to the proprietors of cabs, who were called upon
to provide conveyances, a fair and liberal remuneration.
The DEPUTY Tows CLERK then read the amended bye-
law, which will be made public by. advertisement. The
regulations fixed the fare at one shilling per mile for any
number of passengers up to four, and with luggage.
Covered cabs and carriages were required to have a signal
bell. New stands were placed in Exchange-street West;
in Edge-lane, near the Botanic Gardens ; in Leece-street,
and in Nelson street. Some removals of stands were else
made.
Mr. PICTON asked why cabs and coachus were cheaper in.
Manchester than in Liverpool ?
Mr. Woonaure said there had been many changes in
Manchester during the last few-years. One alteration was
that any person applying for a license, was at liberty to
make what charge he liked, provided he stated in the
license what the charge was to be. The
result had been a complete organization or COM-
bination among the proprietors. Tee charge was
9d. for two persons per mile, and Is. fur three or four,
with a charge for luggage. In Liverpool, owing to its being
a less level town, the depreciation was 25 per cent more
than in Manchester. Under these circumstances, the
Committee thought they were acting wisely in having a
fixed charge of Is. per mile.
Mr. J. B. hIPTIEICY thought the system in London of
making a minimum charge fur one person without
luggage.
Mr. STITT also thought it hard that one person should
have to pay as large a sum as four.
Mr, WOODRUFF said, an arrangement of a similar kind
formerly existed in Liverpool, but in experience, it was
found that people never paid less than ls , fur the cabman
never had change. It was therefore thought much better
to legalize what was a general usage and to insist
upon it.
Mr. JEFFERY complained that many of the four-wheeled
cars were not in a fit condition.
Mr. Woonaurr said he was quite sure that many of these
vehicles were not what they ought to be, but there had
been a considerable improvement going on for a few years
back. (Hear, hear.) The committee were unwilling to
crush some of the poor owners, by insisting upon their
getting new cars at once. They preferred to give them a
little time and a fair chance. _ _ _

Mr. TINNI objected to having a stand at the bottom of
Leece-street, as he thought it was a dangerous position.
Mr. WODDRUFIP said the stand was so managed, that the
lowest cab left the space of one cab clear to the corner.
Mr. EARLE thought the stand would make the corner
more safe, as it would prevent other drivers from dashing
sharply round the corner, as they used to do.
After some further conversation, the amended bye-laws
were passed, and referred to the committee, to be carried
into effect.