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against tfit general tei)deuev of Om Orders of
Coniwil, and not against the.gill for raising duties,
for die purpose of carrying 'those Orders tuto.ese-

vatiou.

14urd.HAWILEzillURT did not know how this Peti-
tion could be lirosigil before. the idouse with pro-
priety, ►i:sce a petition could only Ise received as
against was proceeding already Iseforu thy House.
The former petition mid failed by informality ; this
als.o, he was 'apprehensive, would fair from the

sumo cause.
A long alid deiultory =variation took place oo
theipropriety of receiving this Petition.
The Petition urns supported by Lords littliKlllNt
LAUDEaVALE and GILLNVILI.Z,nd objected to,
nu the ground' of informality, by the LORD CMAN•
CELLOR. .

Lord HAWKSSIICRY moved, " That the Petitiou
should lie on the 'fable, and that the words " to
be heard by Counsel" be struck out."
After a long conversation between Lord Met-
GRAVE, Lord Masterly, the Earl of DliallY,
and Lord Gay.mvt tcs, the Motion for hearing Pe-
titioners by Counsel mit negatived, and tbe-Peti-
how ordered to he laid on the Table.
. . .

. _
Lord GISMVILLI presented a Petition from the
American Merchants in London. similar to that
presented by the Earl of Derby from Liverpool.—
He moved 44 That it be laid en the Table.
Oa the gamitimi being put. from, the Chair. it
was awaited to. _

Lord Gaaattratts then staved, " That the Pe-

titionera should be heard by sCounsel."—He ob-
served, that, from the fete the Petition from Liver-
.pnel bed met with, be bad little iinpes of success ;
but if be could not oblige the Haut to bear Coun-
sel, he would demand that the Petition should, be
rea 1, and in every fute of it there was argument
strong enough to .hew the impropriety of the Or-
ders in Council. _

Loni sv:( 11 s av objected. .
).ord HOLLAND supported the motion.
Lord EiIiILINE said, he would have recom-
mended to tl.e Noble Baritn who tresented the
Petition, to have moved, that the Petition might
lie under the table, instead of on it; for it would
have answered as waste paper as well in one posi-
tion as the other.
_• . . .

Lord AUCKLAND said, that it was the iutentioa
of His Majesty's 'Ministers, in sending the Bill up
from the House of Commons in the manner they
did, to prevent that House from having any is-
formation.
Lord ELDON stated, that there were many ways
in whi.h a motion might be framed, to enable
Petitio.iers to be heard ISy Counsel.
Lori GaswettLi: requested the Noble and
Learn ml Lord to poiut one out.
Earl SPENCER and the Earl of LAUDERDALE
spoke to the same effect. .
The motion was then put and negatived with-
out a division.
Lord HoLtano presented • Petition similar to
that from Liverpool, from the Merchants of Kings-
ton-upon-Hull, which he moved to be laid on the
Table.—Agreed to.
Lord EESKINE moved, .4 That the Mouse should
resolve itself into a Committee of the whole House,
on Wednesday nest, on the Orders of Council. us
recommended by His Majesty's gracious Speech
from the throne, on the opening of the Session."
Lord HAVIIIISRVET answered by moving the
previous question, which was carried.
The Earl of Lano•anaut. on account of the
lateness of the night, anti the absence of a Noble
Friend by indisposition, deferred his motion upon
the commercial effect of the Orders in Council, to a
future day.
The Earl of DERBY asked, if the Petitions on
the table would answer, in the event of a mode
being hereafter ascertained, by which the Peti-
tioners might be heard by Counsel ?
Lord If AWILLSBCRY answered in the affirmative.
The Earl of LAUDERDALE requested his Noble
Friends not to press the opposite side on the sub-
ject, as the puppets waited for the spring of the
wire to be toucbrd by which they were to be put in
motion.

Lord LrcLts called, his Lordship to order.
The Earl of tiaystatts•as rose, in explanation,
and disclaimed all ideiof disrespect to the House.
Adjourned at Twstma O'CLOCK.