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CtiANCLLlait CUT; Fuit
On altigji e.elje brvueln up bee}dt. Fosters, fest
permitting Hume made Spirits In Ireland wr ke
warehoused o . . •
• Mr. Vita:NCR; rose, lie said, pursuant to a no-
tice he had give the dal before, not foe the pm-
lease of rii;soung this Bill, bot!in or,ler to take that
iyporttooltes Of submitting some observations on a
still a• u,:i:cb.was well wot4iy their attention. It
v: is a 11 ation to which the attention of the House
oaglit to have been k!irede.l long before. What he
meant to say. she '4,1 have no per,oilal relation to
0.4 Right Iron. Gentleman in particular.; hut to
the charader and. the office in which he had for VIMe
time air i; At the titre the hallo change was made
in the Admiajstratiorh if it had beet left to his
cheice, :Am melt to h.tve boen made Chancellor of.
the Exchequca for frelatt .1, :hat Right Hon. Gentle-
naa a would eta-144k Live harm first is imed by him,
to fill that sipastion. 'lloserairo, what he mow did
was not of a.persoaal stabile: he merely v.ant
uu PAllinnitUtlry grounds; :eat ie older to rrceaerve
the 'regularity of the ',roc-ceilings pt. the illnuse.
That Rioist Honourable Gentleman' 11ACI now
foe sonic owe aded ate Cliancellar of the elechequela
Sur WWI; PO had: pr ',Tartlet documents
belonging. to thatosiatatioe. had Tirade statements
• which hail certainly, in many re4sede, throeu great
_light en dr isgairs of Ireland ;a:shim:eh that light
was not to clear as to remove all obscurity on the
.sehjeal of them; for there still remained inexpirca-
tde doubts on the subjalt of the cash balances re-
.maining its the hands of the colleaturs in Irelau!!.
'But wat he now wanted to know from the Right
Honourable Gentleman was., on what. •officral
authority was it that ho no* aafted its *a hat ac-
aer which he did not till? Evert, thing ;lone in
such a ellarader ought to come officially lrom
the office and.the officer. To *hew how necessary
suds a regulation was, he would state a particular
fad. Sorge time ago, an account was laid betote
that House from the Admit-Ate, iu which there
was an error. it was. seat back, in order to be cor-
naked. It was aigned by tiw proper :raker, and
why was that form required by the t Luse ? In or-
der that dra House might know on whom blame
should attach, if any abuse had born committed.
Now the office to which he immediately alluded
was held by one Member of that House. and the
duties ofitivere executed by autaber t the flight Hi in.
Gentleman by whom they were so t xacete,l, was tsar
in office; fox if ha was, he should have vacated-his
seat, and been sent back to his coubtitucoes far re,
elcetion. He could not say whether :umber Right
Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Corey) hail adualle resign.
est ; but be knew that the.other Foater' lets
not in ulfice. Now if it-seas the usage of Cu: town
to insist on.the accaracy of statements Lid knfore
_them, by requiring them to be signed by elsrpro-
per officers ; he contended it wes equality nateisary
to insist on the Accuracy of st.v.rin :fits m oWs-
cially beta Member ot•thet Ilitase, while adiafg is any
particular cflice. livetx os al statement bola mail
person ought to come with the same antlearitsp and
certification, as if it was a written statement: Sup-
pose the Right Hon. Gentleman should lead the
House into any considerable mistake (a thing which
he did not behave likely ut happen), let the House
then see what situation it was placed in. If it
baked to him for responsibility, he would say, " I
WAS not in office when I made those statements, and
if you were in an error, it was your fault to have
listened to me." The person *dually holding-the
office, when called to an account, might say. " I
made no statement at all." The House then could
have no remedy whatever. Now, without suppos-
ing that the parties in this business had any criminal
intention, he wished the House would see that a
precedent was -about to be established, which in
time would lead to a great abuse. Members of that
House might Ell offices under Government, without
complying with that wholesome Ad of Parliament,
which required that they should vacate their seats,
in order that their constituents might judge, whe-
ther they were fit to be re-eleded. Onc parson
might in future execute the duties of an office, while
the other might nominally hold it, by which means
this great constitutional check of Parliament would
be removed.

Mr. FOSTIR got tip at if to speak. and sat dawn
again t on which his name was tailed by sevrtal
Mcinbeis.

Mr. %V. ELLIOTT said a few words, which
could not be distirittly heard.
Mr. FOSTER then rose, and declared he held
no office whatever. He s tid, he never heard such
unconstitutional language as that nf calling on a
Member, wire had chosen to interfere in the concerns
of a country wills which he was acquainted, who
had brought in certain Bills relative to that country;
and asking him why he conduced himself in such a
manner t It artist be in the recolleaion of the
House, that, two years ago, h, had made a great
many more motions relative to Ireland, than he did
iu the present Session. Now, he had no hesitation
in saying, that he hid a ri4lit to do all this just as
much as if he was really 'franc. Hot of the ileac-
quer for Ireland. With respect to the responnbiliry
that might attach to him, for statements made in
that House, he would ask, whether is would be
constitutional to addre 3 the King apntimt any Mem.
bet for what he should say foete %Vould not this
be striking dire icily at Om freedom of debate Was
not Parliament alone competent to censure its Mem-
bers for improper statements ? If any resolt was
likely to follow from the Hon. Gentleman's obser-
vations, it seemed In be that of pushing him (Mr.
Foster) into the odice winch ire was nc; desirous of
azreptrag.
Mr. WINDHAM said, the Right Hon. Gentle-
man's explanation was by no means satisfadory.
Ile talked of this Lttbjetct upon principle, usage, aid
pracctice ; :Lad said it was unconstiottional to talk
of the coulita of a MerMser in Clit Ultause ; or to
make any representation on the ea trjea to the crown.
He was ready to agree in tire Luer proposition.
But the Mete flUCiti7ll now was, in what manner

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, 0 IT ht the business of yartiallar offie ;9 he crindur .
tit in: thatilliaime tkrfr...resenettAtar not the m' e
ireallhicla anch business hed-heet timed's. crre.duited.
The *ay of the House was, that sit tsicial business
was condeeted by persons heleleg 'he reficiel situ i-
Lions to which that business bel 'feted. it Must ee-
rear very setange, thereterc, .if eeere.bn%iress of a
Chimeeller ciftheEiseeequer for IreTind was hrouelet
limmird by one -filernher ; while ;Mother '.l mete.
still continued Cliencelter of the Exchequer. MEI
did soothing. WALir unconstitutional fbr .t Mem-
ber
to enquire intOshissithjed ? Stich h thing was a ,
marked depannre from the' practice of Par- 1
liament ; anci it we a tit subject for the auimadver.
sion of the House. .No Member of that 1-lours 1
could hold an office under the Crown, until he had
gone bare to his constitue:rs'fbr reeeledion. A.
person in the situation of the Right Hon. Gentleman :
came under the reeson and Operation of the afewhielt ,
required such re-efeetionto take place. If a Mene.
her should put himself into a • 'iteration of ma: ked i-
experettecy, :,n/Agars* disirg.the bettinees of thdt sl-
tuetien ; the hew este -wisely enteetesPilie 'preservfeir
the purity of Parliament miehtbe reatled‘ekniftai-
ph rely done essay. The Gent. nothfeefeleelcifies,
oirice ariget keep out of the ate 4 tee de notluttee'
while ;he pretson doing all thialestilness'rnightigi
" I am not At Mace, 1 am nethmrpontible
thing Ido ; and I will give taO'e'rplaaa:itiet.lhaf- j
ever. There were now two Chancellors of diet Ez.
• chequer for Ireland; one was the workitig.F.ifteer,
aid the triter was the sleerint 4Jartn?r (e lothl
1ea171,.1 Yet, in the.midst of their pc tnership. thej ;
airier ed to bi- in a state erstrittliffl With .eae
other. it was a most corioes phennuiencin In'tbe
political hemisphere, to see two snch lActieillitek
in once It was. one Chancel/0r of the lexchel xi i
with two heads, and two recutiri; and It leas- cd-
rious to Huey how their funseirees were to'lic di-
vided. .lie sunno -ed that one Of :11k riOmereereefil
receive all tae food, whilehoth of them erculd :petit
and Meer sentiments thready oefetosite to e2ett other.
One of these luihinaries nowtoet above the ireli4 '
while the either •way Me; and It was eireattille
sirehle that the House shesdj know WhAlfeK'
two heads was to be applied to for irfemiation, .
and which of them wasehe House to look :to Tat
re,ponsioility ? He thought it was'exeretoely propel.
in his Hun. Friend to briegfotwerd' an inq•:l,-y of
this keel, and it was a stthje& *hide required ,ei-
giabistiim, and a setisfaaury answer.
- . Me. I'll'i' did not trent. of ;My pradi7al good
whatever, that could Arise form theeire-ent inquire',
except the few moment'', emePeaififfient, which thee
Hesse had veseived from the lin meerrodk :sheen:eta&
re the Bight Hone Gentleman sehVstiolee lap ;,06
to whom :be is:4 leseneti with seine dekree of PTea-•
sure, and with lest i evade:ice than icli teeeecuel
sent might imaeurally beil.u'i'ldetqe' toetPre•
weeirei te 1:;:o.v an snout principtkv cif , nstiru:' •
jealoiie chi-. ernestic)rt was brouehrferwatd : a
_,,io
what manner wee the Ad of -lierliameiit egad"
lenineeliede of the a prrehemier s"fit tee 14 on etPelt.
man amieinted to zies—diet a perm Tli;
time discharge the ditties of an office, wit mil fit.
eying any profit. All he could himself' y.eviFCil
goat his right Hon. Friend reene tf 0. litcl jeer( O. 14
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ad, which it might net have been cerneretent fog
any other Member of thaelloirse to do. • Ile iimol
made certain statements, which any other hferelter
might have made; and it remained for the I emu:
to consider, what credit was due to those seeee
ments. Such statement% were very different frtirii '
written aceouins laid before the Horse, le ~a
official ferm. Bet if a person del Ved eteeete
ing an office, and at the s ime time •disrthe
duties of that office, until he could receive t}.e eieo-
laments arising front it, such a thing was not nn.
usual or unperlienentary ; nor did he conceive kit
all necettary, that such person was hound to vaeete
his sett until he *dually accepted the °Wee. The
only question now before the H ,use was, whether a
certain Bill should be read a first time ; and he diet
not see how this conversation could be carried cif
any longer. If the Hon. Gentleman wished to
bring the subjed regularly before the House, let httil
give notice to th it effea.
Mr. SHE RII)AN observed, that the Right Hon. ,
(lent:amen, after having made his speech, Modestly
told the House that no mote speeches ought to he
made on the bn eness. But, for his own part, he ~
lima b g kave to say a tew words 311 well as the
Right lien. (lente-man. An allusion was made to
the amusemett tier Heine had received Irons the I
bone) :eters speech ,if Hi; Right Hnn. Primed. Tl:e
sithjeet di I necessarily tend treenmething hamar-
(sus, for the Wee of two existing eltarcellers of the e
exchequer was a ttrieg completely 1 isficulcas. It •
had been said, that the aaing Chaecellor need not
list verve his seat until helve:en to receive the
ennle ments of his (Him ; bet he would ask if that
!tight Hee. Gentleman vets nut r this mnlttent not
only perfereeler7 the lu:idiots, tin: mertising all
tee patron ige breeeging to that neiee ! %elle:her be
received the emelornents of it or tent, there vs :s :1
delinqu:Tcy so-newhere ' • if he was not in pies.e..
tine of the oet.ce, another person was; and it be-
came the duty of the House to address His Meleey
to reirewe the inciembrance It was long ago,
since the working partner thought proper to -de-
weince the sleeping partner, by representing all his
nets in the wore colours. And the sleopine part-
rer aftemeerdi came down to defend himself.
—Now it had been asked, whether an address
creel,l he presented to the King, against the
a ding partner ? This question he would answer in
the a tlirmetive ; for, if a man ading in the chareaer
of a ;rek officer, should mislead the II seise, that
-.-try' ad would be the strongest ground fir such All
ejetese sesereese the N,,,,,c Lord who presided
over le. chain of India, should mislead that House,
by reere,entrug those affairs as being in a much
more prosperous situation than they really were,
would not that he a good ground to address His
Majesty to remove him from his office? Nose some-
body ought to be responsible. The House wanted
to know who was the real Simon Parr. Now this