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Mike on his legs, moving That an hatable Address
be presented, tO heti Mejestr.flie ceopyof. memorial
to his Majesty'sGoverament, signed by the inhabi-
tancies:if Zaino, anditrilaseskied Sly Skase Resei to
the Agent of Usk boat., Pelitk Also, a copy of a
memorial signed by wariest inhabitants of &rite,
'and transmitted by Sigime.-Sniridien de
together with a return of lonise aubjects.srreyted
for political off,enece.from June, 1830., to April,
isai, with the grounds of. their detention.
Mr. Goo Lau itli•said , the object of . the
address
of the inhabitants or Zinte Was subversive of the
Careernment : as that siddresswas promoted by one
of its own judicial officers, the GOverooment there
die dinette him. which &add- hardly be deemed
improper. He was also suspended from their A.-
eetubly, and proceedings' were ordered to be coos-
meneed'agsinst him for breach of the oath which
he had taken. The other memorial was iuforinal,
wacould not be received on that account.
• Me: Ming read one article from the lonian Con.
linftution Motive to presenting petitions, and con-
tended that all the requisites were complied with in
Itte present instant«.
Mr. MAaatart contended that, for the honour .
Vi tie House and the country, the papers ought to
'fie Rid brine them.
' ‘'The gallery was then cleared for a divisieti. and
we were excluded fbr some time; on our return, we
found that no division had oaken place, hut Mr.
flown was on his legs, opposing some amendment
which had been submitted by Mr. Goulburn.
Sr'i JOHN NaIVIIMaT raid, if the papers could
not be had in time for the next discussion, it would
be in time for the next Session, and from what had
come to light already, he was convinced that these
was a great deal which ought to be laid before
them. If Great deritain were protector of the
lonian ',lands, the House ought to see that they
were really protected.
Mr. Goo LIMON said, if the Right Hon. Baronet
would make any motion for inquiry, he should
be perfectly ready to meet it with the fullest in-
formation in his power; but as the Hon. Member
(Mr. Hume) had a specific purpose to answer, he
had endeavoured to shape his amendment to meet
his wishes.
Mr. Hunt said, he could not illustrate the state
of the question before the House better than by
stating, that if he had silted for a report of the
state of a gaol. the Hon. Gentleman would present
him, with the report of the gaoler.
Mr. GOULIBURN explained.
The question was then put and carried fur en
address to his Majesty for extracts of such parts
of Sir Frederick Adams' dispatches to the Lord
Hi Commissioner as related to the insurrection
• et Santa Maur* in October, 1819.
GRAMPOUND DISFRANCHISEMENT 1111.1..
Lord MILTON, iii rising to move the Order of
the Day for taking into consideration the Lord!'
Amendments to the Grampound Disfranchisement
Bill, observed, that although he thought the man-
Per in which the Bill was sent up to the other
House was better than in its present state, yet be
should be extremely sorry if oily *lterations should
be made that would risk the loss of the measure;
be, therefore, hoped the House would agree to
the Lords' amendments.
Mr. W. WYNN regretted what had been done in
the other House, and wished that when they had
made so great a change in the Bill they had adopted
another mode, and have contented themselves with
agreeing to so much of the Bill as disfranchised
Grampound, and sent a separate Bill, providing for
the way iu which the defect in the representation
occasioned by that disfranchisement should be re-
paired. He confessed that he felt great disstatis-
faction with the Bill as it now *toed, though at the
same time he did not think the House ought to
hazard the Bill by amending the Lords' amend-
went.. The greatest advantage, he thought, would
result from dividing the county of York tutu two
counties, es he had no hesitation in saying that the
number of electors was too great. He should wish
to move an amendment to that effect. The diffi-
culty that had been started respecting the return
might be got over by the Sheriff adjourning the
meeting from Yolk to another part of the county,
and the election would be thus made regularly at
the county Courts.
Mr. S. WORTLEY thought the House were placed
in a very awkward situation by theamend meets hick
the House of Lords had made. The House of Com-
mons had decided that the franchise should he given
to the borough of Lerds,and therefore two Burgesses
should be returned for that place; but instead of
that, they substitute two Knights of the Shire. He
appealed to the House, whether in a question which
rebated to the composition of it, and as it was
acknowledged that Peers bad a very great inkeepce
at elections, whether this measure would ;Not add
to that power. He considered that the greatest in-
conveniences would result to the private Orlin.
=eatery business of the county by increasieg the
Dumber of the Members to four.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY thought his
Hon. Friend (Mr.S. Wortley) had placed the ques-
tion, as it reworded the privileges of the House, on
a footnig that few wouM agree with him. On the
mode of electing its own Menthers, the House un-
doubtedly was the sole judge; but when they
Coale to a large question like the present, involving
tire eonstitution of Parliament, he considered it
would be an arrogation of one branch of the Le-
gislature over tile oilier not warranted by the Con-
stitution. He thought the ether House, by passing
the WI in its present state. had given a pledge
honourable to themselves.? their disposition to fon.
cur with the House of Commons in remedying* griev-
once, and fer his own part he was Not disposed to quar-
rel with the change of two burgesses to two knights
of the shire. He conaidered that it would be most
euwise in the House now to cut down the measure
to the mere disfranchising the borough of Gram.
pound, as the other Hou.e contil nut be consider-
ed as pledged to pass the wrdsure without some
oubstitution was proposed. He did not feel that
the present measure was final as to the division
of the county of York, if that should hereafter
be thought necessary ; but he thought, ueless it
were well considered, the (louse would get into
great difficulties; it would not do to say the Sheriff
might adjourn the meeting, the lime of the returu
to the writ must also be extended. He was anxious
that the measure should be completed this Session,
as it would allay those unjust suspicions' which were
ratertsitiord as to the sincerity of the Hour* in de-
wing to remedy the evils complained of i be shauld

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thetirote vote_ rot sigoiiiit 0.410/40.

Lord J. Russitu, thought. the (motion for the
Wyse to consider was, whether the reiledi now
propmed was so ill adapted to cure, the evil, sk to
inchsee the House to riak.the loss of it altogether.
The other House had agreed in the main panel*
of disfranchising Grampound, and transferring the
right• to another plater. The only difference .be•
toeea them was, the manner of carryipg the princi-
ple-into effect. The Roast of Commons were for
currying the elective franchise to • populous
town, and the other House desired to give it
to a large and populous county. Knowing the
disapPrnhation of the Honourable Member for
Yorkshire to the measure. he was surprised to find
the objections he had urged against it of so little
weight. The incolivenience to the private business
of the c.ourgy could hardly be increased by having
four Members instead of, two. though he. ac-
knowledged there was a considerable intricacy in
the scierive of numbers when discussed in that
House. The proper number of Barons of the
• Eschequee fee Scotland was five ; the, beit limp;
her of Lords of the Admiralty wee six ; and, tar
rePterentaiires of the county of. York, no number
was so proper as two. He concluded by express-
Lig his intention to support the Bill as it stood,
rather than risk its loss altogether..
Mr. SiteTtta suggested that the best mode would
be to agree to the flit' as amended. by which the
principle would be established. and they might
then bring in a Bill to divide the county in such
a way as would obviate the inconveniences likely to
arise at elections.

Mr. Witmineoace would have preferred assisn-
int; one Member so the North, and one to the West
Biding. but should fear to put that as an amend.
men', lest it should endanger the measure ; but a
Big might afterwards be brought in to woks. that
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arrangement.
Lord MILTON said, he felt no objection to the
arrangement, because it made no inroad on she con-
stitution; but he questioned the propriety of divid-
ing the county, and he put it to the feelings of
lion. Gentlemen if it would not be very harsh to
the frerholtlera. He did not imagine that it would
tend to increase contests for the county election.
He reminded the House that the Bill did not extend
the elective privilege in the least degree, it rather
diminished it, because it disqualified a considera-
ble number of votes. . .
Mr. R. MARTIN promised, that if any Hon.
Gentleman would bring forward it Bill to disqualify
Taviatock, and give the right of election to a
county. he would willingly support it.
Mr. S. WORTLSY replied.
The motion was agreed to without a division.
After a few word. from Mr. C. W. Wirtrx, the
amendments were put seriatim, and adopted with-
out a divi-ion.
Lord MILTON gave notice for a motion for leave
to bring in a Bill for the more conveniently taking
the poll in elections for the county of York. He
proposed putting this notice into effect to-morrow
Ohio day), at which time he hoped to be allowed to
bring in the Bill.
The Marquis of LONDONDRRILT moved that the
Order of the Day should be reed for receiviog the
Report of the Committee of Supply.