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in whet lashoact fhis Circular ►as
attended to
Lord PA mizarrow made a fee
could mot distinctly hens.
Lord AlcutdsLD HAMILTON

House itra totie'rather inaudible. We understood
him to say, that -no part of the e'stimlttes thiltrireel
more serious attention thous those wow before their
consideration.
The Marquis of Lotroombeasu assured the
House there was et this present monient • scale
constructing to regulate the salaries of all persons
bolding public offices.
After • few•obaer►ations from Mr. BENNETT, Sir
R. WILSON, and the Marquis of LONDON DILLY,
ibe House divided, when there appeared—
For the Amcorlomat of Mr. Hume ft •
Arias' it
Majority 4l
'lle SPRAINS then left the Chair, and the
Mouse went into a
COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY.
Mr. BANK= moved that the sum of 8.4791. be
granted to the Trustees of the British Museum,
,which was agreed to.
Lord PA LISEILSToK moved that 31,579/. 10a.bs
granted in the nature of superannuation
on respect of persons having filled civil officer.
Mr. Hums wished for some explanation of the
difference between two papers on their table, iu one
of which the whole of the retired •Ilowaseas of the
Military College were stated at 1,8901., but in a
retrain from the College it•rlf the whole of
such allowances were suited at 1,3901. In the
first paper was a charge of 500/. as a retired
•llowauce to a reduced Inspector General. He
'wished to know why the Committee should be call-
ed upon to vote this 5001. a-year when it was not iu
the last return?
Lord PALIMISTaIi said, the last return made
out by the College did tint include the 500/. as
they were then ignorant that the services of the In-
spector General would be dispensed with.
Mr, Hums wished to know the cameo( the officer
in question.
Lord PALNERITON said, it was Sir Howard
Douglass, who had been placed at the head of the
department at its first formation, lied at the reduc-
tion which took place List year. his services being
no longer required, he was placed cut the retired
list.
Mr. Howe wished to know if that officer did not
receive half-pvy also
Lord PALNItarroN said, he received the half.
Ray of his rank at the time be was placed in his
situation in the College.
Sir HINNY WARDING, said. Sir Howard Dou-
gime wag at the head of the College when he hap-
pened to be a student there. He could testify to
his great Services in that situation, for which he
was peculiarly qualified from his extensive know-
ledge. He was the author, uniesig other things, of
M admired work on military bridges.
Mr. Baemarr said, he had no doubt that Sir
Howard Douglass was a very able mart, but that
did not convince him that 5001. ii-year was not a
very exorbitant retired allowance. He considered
that 'who'd bad his reward. He was living at home
with all his comforts about him, whilst his brother
of were enduring every pri►ation of active ser-
vice abroad ; yet contrasting his situatiou with that
of a General Officer who had been on foreign ser-
vice, it would be seen that the latter received only
the miserable pittance of 1981. a-year.
Sir fitttltY /11•IIDINGE said. Sir Howard Dou-
glass had the same allowance as every other retired
Officer from the Military College, that is, one-
half of the salary of the office in which he had hew
employed.
Colonel DAVIES said, his Hon. Friend did not
quarrel with the allowance to the particular officer,
bet the objection was to him es he was a partaker
erg that scale of extravagance applied to officers
who had been serving at home, compared with the
paltry pittance granted to those who might have
been serving a life abroad.
The Ciisitcst.Loa of the EXCHEQUER said a
few words, which were not audible in the gallery.
Colonel DAVIES captained ; after which the
question was put, and the Resolution agreed to.
The sum of 8,6861. 40. 4d. was thee granted for
•'ation allowances in respect of civil offices

in Ireland.

Sir CHARLCS LONG moved. that the anm of
35.000/. be grunted fur Exchequer fees on money
issued for army services.

C. I nurimir rersocei
• On the Order of the Day fir the second reading
of the Metropolis Police Ball being read—
BURSIAL wished !bet there should be •
-ewes added to give the •Megititiates power to
leant the expenses of employing police officers for
the detection of robberiesto the house* of persons
too poor to afford these expenses. He wished also
ter other faciljtiee tr ;be Oven for (stabling the cosy.
'table ot.the night to allow persons charged with
pet/ misdemeanors to go out on -bail till ithil
Staining.
Mr. G. BENNETT expressed his dissatilfactidi
at the general tendency cud provision* of e 13,11,
which he thought altogether unitise and inadequate,.
to. the purposes popeyed. He complained of dot
unaltered system of Tata! management 41140
ehinery was the satriefaii before; that which hod
bees proved to exist- before the Police Conine:On ,
pus left unreforinedy—greet service, greet OeMple,
Am. and little pay : eireirseas the system, end wed!
'gwatit to remain. He ceidd prove it on the eviii
Bence of the police people, •that there was no of-
fender tried st the Old Bailey who could not coin-
„promise if he had mosey. The pay of the first
police-officer was -a genies a week ; some of them
derived a trifling advantage from attending on the
H.ysf Family, or occasion* of a similar nature, but
besides this they had no ellisounce except their pay
—no provision for their widows if they should be
killed iii the performance of their duty. Ile read
Vickery's evidence from the Repot t or the last Com-
mittee, to spew the arduous duty and small remu-
neration of police officers. Mulkey they mast have,
however, and for sant of fair and adequate retail-
nerution the system hod become generally corrupt.
—lt pervaded the deportment of constables, three-
fourths of whom served by deputy at night. The
deputies were frequently no better thee thieves.—
He 'mentioned the case of a constable who had ap-
plied to a Megistrate to be sworn, to whom he was
'known to be thief; and threatened to sue for a
manduessis, because the Magistrate refused
ti swear him. To give an example of the
system, he reminded the House that a Bill had
pawed to do away the reward to the chief witnesses
iu catlike! felonies. The witness was to swear that
he had heard the confession of the criminal, cud
while the reward existrd that sort of evidence was
never wantiug-..since its abolition there had not
been one instance of it. The heed constables were
frequently bankrupts, and their predilection for
cool-dealing was mitaculous—they supplied ale-
houses, brothels, and gist-shops with them. The
police was better served within Temple•bar than
wetboutoie Mr. Bill SOIMICII acknowledged. The
City police lied 30s. a seek. The Westminster
police was very ill-proportioned to the population,
and there were eieriarany officer* for the Queen-
, equate office, where the district coutuined twenty-
four thousand souls, as at the Marlborough-
' street office, where the district contained upwards
of *OO,OOO. He wished to see more equality in
those proportions, and the officers better paid.
Penury in these cases was extravagance. Ile
thought that the Bill would fall perniciously on the
Irish labourers ; they being guilty of poverty would
be laid hold of, and brought to the offices for the
sake of the reward given by the Bill for •ppre-
bending those who are found without means or em-
ployment in the public streets. He recontroend.d
that the Bill should' beereut for modification to a
Committee up stet's.
Mr. H. CLIVE said, that the Bill was an
amended edition of the Bill of 1814. A great
many suggestions bad been received from Ma-
gistrates and offices of police, and adopted in
the Bill. The saint might be said of the sugges-
tions of four Police. Committees which had sat.
There could be now no use in sendipg ;mother
Committee up stairs. If in the Committee on the
Bill the Hon. Gentlecsate could propose any desir-
able modification they would of course be adopted.
Mr. DENMAN objected to several of the clauses
respecting the apprehension of vagrants. It was a
power which he did ,put like to see augmented in
this part of the country.
Mr. 11. BATHUarr said a few words in support
of the Bill.

Mr. Q. BENNWIT and Mr. DENMAN explained,
Mr. H. CLIVg explained.
Mr. Alderman Wools spoke iu support of the

army
Mr. MAIL thought it • moot preposterous thing Bill.
that the public should be paying 35,0001. to The Bill was read a second time, sod ordered
their own servants iu the Exchequer. He torsi- to be committed this dry fortnight.
dered it us a needless complicatiou of accounts, The Report of the Committee on the Spoiled
and would suggest whether it would not be better Souups Bill was ordered. to be taken into further
that the whole of the fees of every office should be consideration on Friday next.
paid to the Coosolidated Fund, and the charges On the motion fur the third reading of the Irish
thereon might then be brought regularly before Court of Chancery Bill—
Parliament, and it would then he easily known 1 Mr. S. Rice inside r few remarks ou.the scale
what the amount was. He thought that would be by which the compensation to the Clerk of the
• simplification which would be extremely useful. Crown and Ilanaper Offices had been.calculated.
Sir C. Loma observed that the Exchequer feels He said that the Clerk had been in the constant
bud been regulated by Mr. Burke's Act, and heap- habit of charging Magistrates and Sheriffs larger
prtlwnded there could be no difficulty iu knowing fees than were allowed ley Act of Parliament.
the amount at any time, lithe llouourable Member Mr. C. GRANT said, the fees alluded to by the
chose to move fur the itiformatioo. In leis armee. Hon. Member had not been touched upon by the
heusion there has no complication whatever. There I present Bill, because it had been framed upon the
might be so objection to the fees themselves, but principle of not tote/fent* with any thing but what
they had been recognized by Mr. Burke's Act, sod I was connected 'with the Court of Chancery as a
if the services were trot paid in that way they must court of justice.
he remunerated from some oilier source. After a few words from. Mr. DIXIII4B.I6.Itteg,
• Mr. Hume said he treed only refer to the man- and Sir lieossit Hsu., the Bill •wos read-414 third
ner iii which the 1 reentry was paid, to chew that time, and poised.
there was a complication and intricacy which treed The other orders of %colt: were their severally
Trot 11 ot exist. There were 0 less than four votes taken disposed ofu\suel. the: adjourned at twelve
for the paymeut of the Treasury. • o'clock till Endo,.
Mr. G. Ban n err said, be boti.ontehjectioa to
the system of fees altogether. •:"
Mr. Huss, said, as the Hight Hon. Paymaster The Magid:saes of the .41assily of Somerset are
oft the Forces was *roe of the Commtasioners'olro -emiw itter*llltelii9r the etkifilleet a the NeePer
fumed a Resort in which the abolition of feei were t Chester Goo', hod have, for the presto*, ouspetided
recremmended, as regarded the CoatolitiebboOe. now.. him.
Ise (Mt. Hume) could not oudieBlllllll6- why that Ass account of the number of country Bankers'
which was bad ro one department sbsuM4s sold stamped in each rear, from the 10th October
ed in another. • •!. -,1•! or" 1804. to the sth April 1841, hair beta printed'by
Sir C. Lotride rad. that kismet' *Lennon wit; Miter ureter of the House of Centaurus. The uumber of
in fort.ur of fees, and he had weed double if the said mites ant exceeding U. Is. fur the year end-
. abulttioo uftlient would be bemoaned to she public. not the lush of (hither iaos, was 3,104.643, dot,
The Report wok by the Colorful..., wrooloth ha 39,0004 00. 9d.; and fur the year eliding 10th
loos a Member, had, itr feet, not
,at: all October 1820, 4154! 1,1112.,614—July
ppm the subject of fee!.r. I-. 3•3 5961. 1.. Ptil?, od m., * mad
ue. euoure ;4. • .
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been lignlaily After a few words Irma Mr., Huta, the, Resolu-
tion was agreed to.
observations we 249.5001, was then voted Ise the Disembodied
• Militia of Great Britain, and 11,3 teethe maw
eddteseed the service in !reload. • '
We understood The Howe then resumed: