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against convicted guilt; if, en the 1
Ist of tsroy..when the Sheriffs of Loa
an Address ; supposing Hie:Migesty ha
which had not been done, 1 mesa *kik
Viscount Melvin e from the list of PricyClh
the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite, sod',
leagues, have advised His Majesty to Intern
serer to one part of the Address, but hot la aas
part of it, viz. " that care shnuld'bs tahei.ard,,
abuse in the public expenditure a" nitilst an ea.
rice was taken with Tensed to the dv#dstion of the
culprit ; no other reason can be &leen will justice
had not been done. but because Ministers prime
the guilty. I trust, then, Sir, tbot the. Hoeft ef
Commons will consider it right to address His hfis.
jetty, and that, before the Right Honourable Geo.
tlemarr opposite shall have made ane consnaunica.
tine, which might interpose between the justice of
the House, and the duty they must perform. This
•is what is oonfidently required from, the public, re.
g the' eondua of their Legislators. The
Honourable Gentleman must allow the po.
opinions to go along with the House in the
Orient instance. "these can, indeed, be no doubt,
lion the person accused corSemes himself guilty.
If the tide of popular opinion be turned aganot
Viscount Melville, there can be no wonder, whet
the sentiments of the people are not in disunion
with justice. It is, therefore, but stria jostler that
I call uaon the I louse to execute, and I can see no
reason, why the proceedings of the House should
be arrested, whatever steps the Right Hon. Gentle-
man and his colleagues rdey he induced to take ; of
whatever renunciations Viscount Melville may new
make. The different measures that might be adopt.
ed on the present occasion are impeachment, a cri-
minal prosecution, 'or removal front (Ace,' and His
Majesty's Councils, in virtue of an Address of the
House. This last (which was what he meant to
priapose) :was by far the lightest punishment. I
move, hwthe first instance, *4 that His Majesty's an-
swer to the Address, containing the Resolutions of
this Honer, be now taken into consideration ;" and
shall afterwards move, " that an humble address
be presented to His Majesty, proving that His Ms.
jetty will be pleased to remove 'Viscount Melrilk
from all offices held under the Crown, during piew
sure, and from His Majesty's Comsat; and presence
for ever." •
Mr. PITT--" The Order of the Day is, that
this House will ptoceed to consider His Majesty's
Answer -to their Address. I expected, chastens
that the Hon. Gentleman would merely haws iris
moved the Message to be taken into cons'ideratiee.
I trust that if he had allowed me the opportunity,
should have had it in my power to satisfy him sad
the House, that any farther discussion on thigh*.
jet% had been rendered unnecessary. His
his been advised to direet the name of Lord =
Melville to he struck out of the List of Pricy Ccero
senors, and I am farther authorised to inform the
House, that His Majesty has given direCtions ac-
cordingly, and that it will take place on .the first
day when the Privy Council meets. I now state
the reasons why I did not feel it my dety to
give this advice sooner. I put it to the recaleco
don of the House, whether the acumen*
were not these-.-A -motion having been (erne* '
de to take this very stew! mean to addressait I
•
M.jetty to this effect I then diJoset qpiser int***
discussion, but simply stated, that Viribeatidds
ville had resigned his office of First Litedref the
Admiralty, and that all prosper of his retertity
to any place of power or consequence was at as
and, unless the House varied its opinion. Many
gentlemen, at the same time, expressed, that they
were I,nwilling the House should proceed to a din-et
ifs:boss to His Majesty of the nature now propood,
sot wishing net ecess lily to wound the teals
Wf an individual. I understood also, th. ,oa
the other side of the blouse, it was not co:op
dered necessary that this proceeding should take
place, and that it was even de.ired such a mo-
tion should not be made; and that it would be
withdrawn accordingly ; and that a motion would
he made for laying t li, Majesty's answer bef ire the
House, yahoot any further comment. I did not
then conceive it to be the sentiment of the House to
propose the measure's being carried up to this prey
cue objea. I did not so understand it ; and, there.
fore, I did not ad so far as to advise His Majesty
to the step which has sioce been taken. Various
allusions, indeed, have occurred in the course of
former debates, to farther proceedings in this mat.
ter, and suggestions as to what course of proceed-
ings would be best. I am convinced that the
sentiments of many most respectable persons, and
particularly amongst those who were unfavourable
to Viscount Melville, were against taking any far-
ther steps ; bur, after all that has passed, I am now
convinced of the oropriety of taking such a measure
as that now proposed, as I am certainly satisfied that
if it were pressed, it would be the prevailing sense
of the House that it should be adopted. I have wt
wished to give the Houw ocea ion for nnnecessart
discussion, and, therefore, I have thought it, my
duty to offer my advice to fie Majesty, who, iS
consequence of that awiajce, Is. a ACAtercti ;he name
of Vi count Melville to !se e.,:sed from the list of
Privy Coatisellors. feel the bitter jrang
in inflisr.iing the punishmert on the Noble person
who has unfortunately fallen under the displeasure
of the House. [Rh. Piet Iprested himsrff rrlhprat
fevkng, and wnnel no wit opted.] But it is a feeling
for which 1 am not ashamed, but am supported by
the consciousness of having ruled up to public duty.
whilst I am desirous ..t avoiding farther public dis-
cussion; and which, I hope, will now be con•idered
unnecessary. On this advice [ have givens I am
2111110654 A to state, Hi. Majesty has resolved m
act, and I leave it, therefore, to the cons'deration
of the l louse whether any further discussion be now
necessary."
Mr. FO'( —" I consider, Sir, that upon this oc-
casion the house has °benne,' a complete ti
When I consider who these Minissters are who have
advised Majesty to Ji,1111.% Viscount MCPrille;
who have expresst dr by their votes, a sense of his
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But I wish also that the sense of the Howe had
been cone:led from the public resolution of the
House. For why should Ills Majesty have had the
formal notification of the fad of Viscouut Ma'
vine's ntalver.ation, unless with the ripedatioa
on the part of the House that thu es.icutive