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'l3;k:Aitt, MARCH 4, 18L,6

IMPERML P.4ItLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS, MONDAY, VIA RCM 3. *-
Mout 4 o'cl.elc, V.e Lewd Cb.,nrelkr c-tme riJon to the
House: and shor. a s tar p avers were road, their I.nrishiri
”rooestle4 to f0r.... I t:I. It Os upon the t.ibteoihie h wore mead,
.fa ',mate or Inca. tiebeliAmn• .0 it," sree, I stag"
A variety of Ord: n reit 0:44a, it tres:.e.t :o the hosting
of Appears.
Aer. JUSTICE FOX
After some time had el. peed,
The Marquis ot BER.CORY moved tie order
of the day for re-utning the adjulsrnea debate on
his motion of this day sericti7fit, forthe atteneence
of several witnesses on the 211•. i of April. relative to
the pending rise of Mr. Jos e Fox He adverted
to what had taken place on a 'erne, esindith s
wheat a Noble Lord. then in hit .ilace, high His
hlati4YeaCaossticas, had uggeatej the expediency of
a delay. to give Noble Lan!, leisure
a consider of the pro ••rovele.l. that
he would come forward, and .es :cis remelts :or
wishing such a peoceedi -.g to take t lace. From the
roves which he enterrioned tor that N ,ale Lord.
plod to the eoiisidcration sf the deg... proposed
being merely nominal. with reference to t'. • 'le& of
a proposed order, which was to take AA( e two
months bence, he was iaducei to comply freely
with that mggeatims. ilrt ow deprecated any far-
thee postponement dth • consid •ratiod of that pro-
proton. Their lordships would orms•der, that re-
peess‘ eadselense dr,c arxt ins aow Home had taken
place apm the sohjga ; the. they aot °an heard and
esamined a ;misdeal t evidence, but that the House
was pledged' by its legislaiivl via, to corainue the
pre . He was at a foss to con, eive what rea-
m:re:42h. assigned for any further delay, or why
th•• pr ,coediogs s'iradd not eotor ward with expedition
d as far as was conso tent with the b.tre Coe-
'emetic* of ithavieuals, and the soiemnity due to the
nature and magnitude of the aye. It was important
they ehould, as tar as in them lay, proceed to bring
' raw of such peculiar importance tii a rJrt her hearing,
1 sod a final decision. When he considered the high
situation, not only of dignity, but of responsitality, in
which the Noble Lord stood, and the parliamentary
and coestimtional character with which Le was in- 1
vested, he WAS unwilling to toppose that his first
parliansentary measure rind trial of strength, would
be any attempt to interfere w•til the cirdrse of an im-
portant judicial process before that House, which
had been solemnly instituted, c‘anrne-ced, and .-to se
progress, thengh with no great degree pf ...podi-
tion, made in it. These were not the only reasons
which should determine their Lie dsh•ps.uncin therize.

eliferiiffthose of the per* sal Ireland were turned
to that House. with respect to the proceeding ; it
was regarded by them as a progressive rodent's:Aar to
redress importarit grievances, and to enhance the se-
curity of the rights and privileges of His Majesty's
subjects in that country ; the first attempt which
had been made for their effectual protection,
since the incorpiiratioa ot their t'atliament
with that of this cuntry. 'Er.is was but of
one side vf the ease. under coasideratioii. On the
nthet hand it was to be recollected, what was
due on the score of impartial justice to the
learned Gentleman, whose conduct was the object
of the investigation; they west aware of the
evidence which hail been adduced against Mm,
and of course he should, in justice, lie ad'. aded an
opportunity cif controverting, of rebutting. and re-
futing 'it, it it were in his power. He wishe i
that every opportunity should lie afforded him for
these purposes, as certainly his charrAer was derply
implicated in the matters of charge H. shouli,
therefore. without troubling their Lords ips with
any further observations upon the case, move to
have the Question put. He had, however, to ap-
prise the house, he should have to move for the
attendance of a few more witnesses, when he could
ascertain the number u h.ch may be spared.
Lord GRENVILLE rose; he could assure the
House, that he had nothing roorein view in the course
he had adopted, with respedt to the affairs in question, II
than the interests of the country, and tl.e ends of sub-
stantval justice, with respen to all par ties, which Jae
wished to be attained. in the mode that was mostcon-
sistent with the laws of the land, and the posse-lice of
the Constitution. It was in reference to these great
objets. that he wished for some interval of delay
In deciding upon what the Noble Marquis had pro-
posed ; it also arose from a difficulty which he then
felt, and continued to f-el, as to the course, cir-
cumstanced as the caw thee was, most proper ro
be pursued. Wiae he called upon to give a de-
cided opinion, it would be that which he had more
than once expressed last year, namely, that every
step which had been taken in the business, had been
is a wrong, and, as he thoaght, an iinconvitutional
course ; in this opinie.n, hr was confirmed by every
receareh he had mad; anA degree of study he had
keen t' the subject. He was by no m-ass ig-
norant or unmosiifu of those difficulties, and
em'iarrasam-nts, which :he case. as it nave
stood, involved. He was also fully aware of its
magnitude and importance. He felt all the dim-
colt! of the consideration of breaking it off, or
dis:ontinuing the proceeding, after having enter.
coined it so far. The question was therefote a great
and important one, in a variety ot views. not only as
it respelled individuals in I reland, and the charade? of
the personage demised; Is tit involved considerations
connected with the home an charaAerof the House.
Upon the whole. he was a t ashamed to say, the
difficulties still continued to operate upon his mind,
which was not yet prep (red or satisfied as to what
Was proper, oroaght to be done, or what con -sena&
t s be adopted. Me felt it incarnbent on him to put in
this protest in behalf of the opinions he had for-
merly avowed ; with regard to the repress osmium,
it being to ops rate upon such a distant day as the
!Ith ot April, which would atford their Lordships
ample time for intermediate comaderation, be should
cut then mist it.

Lord AUt &LAM) deserved that with Teemwt

to the motion. watt he to &lei& upon it, it shoal.'
be io the negative. He. was hr no means satisfied
with the course that ha:: beep Ad op CJ, an. refry
thing be had since been *biz to learn, or colrect. tend-
ed to confirm hint in r1C:1 an opinion : tha: Huse,
he thcoght, seas not competent to entertain a pro-
ceeding of the kind, and therefore lie should he in-
duced to resist it in every rage. So strong was the
istiprssion upon his mind, that lie had recorded his
stotiments upon the Journals last rear. He not
Only r-grettod t had ever gene si, far, but he was
sorry it was over entered upon in that ; and
Ae leelionsd that few who heard him, would out
wish it well nut of :bat Hons. In concluding, his
Lordship adverted to the inunense expenct which
had beta .ireadys and is all prokshilitnitostegfffl
s incurred its the prosecution of the affair, a great
part of which, he thosght, would be ulurinsaely paid
by thepohlic.
Lord H A WKE.StITRY did nor wish then to enter
into a retrospedive view of the afirai: In question ;
they had hen principally to ccetsider the situation in
which it sow stood ; is this view of it he seemed to
d-preeste all idea of stopping short. It was impos-
sible for any person to r, I the ease in evidence.
which Lty upon the tables and rot see the ainoltuir
neansity of proceeding in the inv,-Oigation of it.
Not only with a view to the eights and intrrrsts. but
the charm6er of all parties concerned ; even the
credit and charades of the Hunse were involved ;
was, therefore, in all these points of view, proper
to proceed, thoroughly to iire:stistate the case. and
come to a dOCiSi'on upoo it. He had give.. the L. t
attention in his power to the business. and we, tea :y
to say, that even a reaped fur the charad-r of t: e
Le tr;:ed Geadeasan Is ;Ito-skims should be an
twos! iswiucenteat to the: Lordships to continue the
investigation.
The F.Arl of 111.1CICINiGHAN/fillißE, arter
shortly a Averting to the sentiments he had ; •roierty
declared upnn the subjeft, observed, be could c..,,-
sistetitiy, in the present state i•t the Cast', vote tor
suspension of the pr. • tinge. He alluded to what
had been adduced in OV And upon record
against 'he L-ernei GmtL•man in qu/ssioo. and the
degree of publicity i had obtained, which should be
las consider..tion to determine their Lordships not
to I.lre the case in such an niifioished state.
The Nlarquis of BUCKINGIIA appeared ra-
ther to view the case as it at »1 at present berms
the House, and adverted to tb- ill consequeoce of
stopping short. In this consideration, he vetoed
'o think the charadva and estiplattros of the House
Were also iovolved--the • w

• - ...N. prmat iseiporonsiew
i'he'opirtions he had avowed as to the isright of the
Isysi....ss, and the CeJfitt.4l of its hong pmaerli enter-
tained in the tint intranee. by .isicir Lor Iships, he
still retained. Bin theca... after what had been
done, now stood in a different situation ; this he
threw out tie :1* coast)-rayon of tn. House ; tin-
ter the impression, however, which, upon the whole,
he felt, resealing the affair, he could not cansist-
ently assent to the Modern.
Uu quest rn was then pot, and the N%itfteigeg
origleally named in the Motion, were ordered Rat-
tend on the '.:O• h day of April, aceordingly.
LORD ILLESSUROUGH'S SEAT IN THE CAI,INET.
The Order of .he Day, respeCting the intended
slininn on this subjeft, and upon woich their Lord-
ships had been surnmor.e,l, being reader
The Earl of BRISTOL rose, to bring .forward
his promised Motion upon the sujed. Ho set nut,
hy assntingtheir Llrdships, mote particularly-those
N h!e Lords opposite to him, that in coming In--
ward as he did. in the present instance. he could
solemnly declare, and to the truth of which many
Noble Friends near him, cotild bear witness, he
was so far from being aluateJ by any futile cons!.
desatinns against His Majesty's present Ministers,
that he was rather disposed to afford them an aftoe
seonort. So desirous wai he, in the plipent awful
and eventful crisis of the errors of the Wsuntry, of
beholding a strong and tent Government, and
feeling the great Jay image of an unanimous d spcs -
tion. on the part of Parii•ment, to support such a
Gnvernotent, that he rather endeavoured to obtain
the objeft of his intended Motion. by private and ten-
-11-tentta representations to His Holie•ty.S Ministers.
With raped to the subjeCt master of wise he was
about to provse, he had no hesitation to declare,
that every thing he had read or heard served only to
coafi.on and strengthen the first impression upon his
In•nj ; and, he W•l: confident. the ,ttener the sub-
jell was censidered by him, the more strongly he
should be dispose) to think it ought to be discussed
and investigated by Paciament. The cirtumsrance
of the Lord Chief Justice of the King's Bench
having a seat in the Cabinet, militated. in his mind.
against the most sacred and fundamental principles
of the Constitution. It v.-as inconsistent, in the ex-
treme, that the Chief Juoice, whose province it was
stalely to adrwn:ster the laws, should he one or the
confidential advisers of die Crown. Won-id Par-
liament have endured it. were the Chief Justice to
6- constituted also Pretident of Cis Maj'esty's Coun-
cil ! He thought it wield not but where, in effea,
was the difference, in the present instance I The
deiberations of the CAll;net were chiedy of a poli-
tical nature, distant from the province of a Chief
Justice. who never should be party to the measures
of Adminentioion. Such an 12C4 would opgrete
injur,ously with respell to 4.e judicial charaftet
and justly become the cause of much apprehension
and alarm :a the ruhlic mind ; they are justly averse
from wheevei tends to blend a id amalgamate the
principles of political and jadi-ial power, which
should be kept as distirt and separate as poselule.
He reprobated the idea of a Common Law Judge
Lein., an habitual Member of the Cabinet; era of the
Judges, to whom belc-rged a distinft and particular
department of law (the Channeling) was, at the
saroe time. a Cabinet Minister; but he war. remove-
alst.e at the Kng's pleasure, and Rat seated fax life.
With respel :o precedents for what he row cum-