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ARCH 26, 1825.

The Duke of NEWCASTLE rose so order, and asked if there
were any question before the House relative to the purity of the
Church of England?
Lord KING said, the question before the House was, whether
or not a petition should lie upon thg table; in debating on which,
a Reverend Prelate had thought fit to charge htm and other Noble
Lords with opposing the clergy. Ho (Lord Ilispg) had felt it ne-
cessary, in reply, to state some of the abutment 'goose clergy.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL said, that the observations that had
beet? made were not strictly on the subject before the House. He
would say in the Mee of that House,snell- he would prove his asser-
tion if °cession reqpired it, that there never terra a period within his
recollection when the clergy so faithfully disehanSeed their duties,
or when the Church of England was more purely or more ably
filled. He had marked, sod he was sure every Member who heard
him had marked, front his youth to the present period, a great and
important change. In all respects the clergy were now far better
than they hail ever been, and it was his Brio belief that there was
never a Church in any country whose members more ably dis-
charged their ditties than the members of the Church of England
now did. Ile would not at the present moment go into a question
Which was not before the House, but he falt himself called upon to
deliver this opinion.
The Bishop of CHESTER explained. He did not say that the
Noble Lord (King) was not a friend to the Established Church
he only said that the Noble herd had employed weapons, inadvert-
ently it might be, which had been used not only against the Clinnit
but against Christianity. As to the returns which were ordered by
' the Privy Council, the Noble Lord might examine them at any
time he pleased, as they were regularly mode from year to year. So
far from the assertion being true that the number of non-residents
had Increased, the number had within the last few years considerably
decreased. In his own diocese there were $4/beasficed clergymen,
and only 4 nos-reside° Ls, and titois a ere nogegesidents only because
they could not reside on ape4s livind‘ "kinkier dill Lathe churches
M his diersese there were two every Sobbstb-
day.
Lord KING !aid, was it not titeeeneelPritliat there was s
great proportion of non-resident eleigyman ? •
The Bishop of BATH and WELLS said for his diocese he
might. confidently answer No. He had visited every benefice, and
he had fourd that out of six or seven hundred livings there were
only 70 cases of non-residents,
Lord HOLLAND agreed in the opinion of the Noble Earl
(Liverpool) that this conversation was not directly connected with
the question before the House, but be thought it a eardonable devi-
ation. He thought, however, that the question of Catholic Eman-
cipation was not to he viewed in connection with the Inuits of one
Church and the demerits of another. He should be sorry if the
question was to be decided by a discussion on one Church asking
concessions and another seeking to keep the power which they had
gained. He always considered this great question solely as a poli-
tical question—as one which whatever might be the religious sea-
, timents of a Peer, he was bound to decide upon only with reference
to the happMess Of the community among which he lived ; and he
would deprecate the consideration of the question as one which at.
tacked the Church of England. He hoped the discussion of that
night would not leave an impeessioa either here or abroad that it
was In this way their Lordships were considering the question.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL wished to remind their Loniships
out of what subject the discussion had arisen. It had arisen in a
very unusual course, not on the merits of a petition, but tin an im-
portant parlianientory point, and the proper course in such awes
would be by motion that the petition do not lie on the table. He
could not conceive a more incorrect mode of pro seeding than the
one that had been taken, as It did not relate to the question whether
a petition should be received or rejected, but it referred altogether
as to the propriety or impropriety of the precise sentiments con-
tained in at.
The LOW) CHANCELLOR avowed that he should not be
able to late the House without much pain and uneasiness if he
did not enter his protest against the practice than ,had of late
gone to a very great extent—that of discussing the maim of a
suhjert, instead of the propriety of receiving a petition. He
thought it a sacred right--a right which was enjoyed by all
classes of his Majesty's subjects—to petition that Home in decent
and respectful language, and for petitioners to state their opinions
on any topic, submitting to Parliament whether or not it would
act on opinions so expressed. In the petitions of the Clergy there
might have been some expressions that were not strictly justifiable;
but the /louse would be acting most unjustly if they condemed
those petitions on that account. If the Noble Lords felt the same
as it respected their own debates ; Ite would ask, who could abide
the trial ? lie 'timid say of the Clergy of this kingdom, that they
had done theit duty in manfully statitg their opinions on a subject
which would be soon before that House, to be discussed there. A
Noble Lord near him (Lord Calthorpe) had stated, that he had
received many communications charging him with a change in his
sentiments as it respected the Roman Catholics. lie (the Lord
( liancellur) had also to make a similar complaint; and he would
take this opportunity of stating, that the more he bad considered
this question the more be was confirmed in the overdone he had
alwaysbald. that those who would support the Constitution of this
country in Church and Stine would amt as be bad always done. kle
besought their Lordships not to prevent. the free ingress of
petitions.
Lord CALTHORPE explained.
The Earl of DARNLEY, in explanation, said, that he had
made no observation which he had nut felt himself called upon to
make. He eorceived that brined would be placed in iuttuinent
danger, if she were allowed to remain as she hail so long been.
Tire petition was then laid on the table.
Lord NI NO moved for a return of the number of beneficed
clergymen AEttgland and Wales, and also fur a return of the
number olthe rentilent and non-resident clerg;.
he Earl of LIVERPOOL said, that the motion was quite ir-
regular, although he did not think there could be soy objection to
I granting the required return.
I Lord KING said he would then move for the return in the
course of the Session.

--EQUITABLE LOAN HILL.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL moved the a copy of she evidence
taken before che House last year on the Equitable Loan
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The House then adjourned.

BOUSE OF COMMONS, FRIDAY, MARCH 25.

Mr. DENNON permuted a petition front the Commissioners of
Highways, St. Mar ~Lambeth, against the South London Docks.
Ile presented a similar petition trout the Commissioners of Seams.
Sir M. W. ItIVI.SI' presented a petition flow the coiling en
the river Tyne, agpinst the Tees and It'eardale Railway NIL
Mr. LITTLETON presented a petition from the Thames and
Severn ('anal Company against the Bristol Railroad.
Mr. TH 05IPSON presented a petition Iran Si. John's. Wap-
ping, against the Collier Doc& Bill, In the Isle of Dogs.—Ordered
to lie on the table.
_ _ .

Alderman BRIDGES presented a petition from the Commis.
sinners for Paring Whitechapel against the East London Rail.

road.

Doctor LUsHINGTON moved the third reading of the Baring li
Divorce Bill.—h was read a third time and passed.
Mr. EGERTON presented a petition front the Dean anti Chapter
of Chester against further concessions to the Roman Catholics.
Mr. S. RICE presented a petition front Limerick In favour of
Joint Stock Banking Companies in Ireland.
Mr. HUME presented a petition from Brunton in Suffolk pray-
ing for a repeal of the Assessed Taxes.
Sir. T. LETHBRIDGE presented a petition from the parish of
St. Mary, Leicester, against further concessions to the Roman Ca-
tholics. The petitioners complained that the Catholics, instead of
evincing a disposition to quiet from past concessions, continued to
" make periodical attacks on the constitution." The petition con-
tained much reasoning of this nature. (A laugh). The subject
was one that ought not to be treated with that levity with which
petitions against the claims of the Roman Catholics were treated in
this House too generally during this Session. Whither in a
minority or not he should continue to give his roost strenuous oppo-
sition to further concessions to the Roman Catholics.

. .
Mr. ABERCROSI BY did not intend to treiathe petitioners, or
any petitions against the claims which be advocated, slightingly.Tbe
simile which was elicited from him was occasioned by the argument
adverted to in the petition. It amounted to this, that the ROMail
Catholics were not satistiA with the concessions which had been
made to them,sr.d that they were solicitous of obtaining more. Now
that was the very argument on which the advocates of the measure
of emancipation most relied. They maintained that the question
could not remain where it was ; and until it was acceded to, the
Roman Catholics would continue their appeal to Parliament to
gram it, which was what the present petitioners called " making
periodical attacks on the constitution." The argument of the pe-
titiun was therefore rather in favour than against the measure of
emancipation.
Lord A. HAMILTON brought up the Report of the Commit-
tee on the Scotch Sheriff Court MIL It was ordered tube recom-
mitted for Monday.
dlr. ABERCRO3IBY presented a petition from the county of
Waterford, praying foe the removal of the Commercial Restrictiolis
between England anti Ireland. It was signed by twenty-one 31a-
gistrates. Ihe petitioners prayed particularly to tall the attention
of the Howie to the duty on Baltic timber, which amounted to a
prohibition on the importation of that necessary article.
bit. A. CLIICII &STEM presented a petition from several Pre.
testants at the wan of Belfast, agaiust further cuneessOns to the
Roman Catholics.
Mr. B. LEWIS presented a petition from the Cotton Spinners
and others of the town of Belfast, against the Duty on Coais car-
ried coastwts..

internal industry and commercial pi
his Right Hon. Friend the Chancellor,
considered the measures which h-'
den, and which were attended a
It was impossible fur them, at lust
fad, that in their application there r
would hare frustrated their expectations.
to watch the progress of each particular
etumspection, and as it were to I
'say that, in every instance, wi
Weeding the fears and forebodings
their anticipations were well lout
most satisfactory results had arisen.
would convince those who formerly
dieted dangers; and those who f
slier this favcarable experience.
iiithe same path, and making r
ction, which in his opinion ...-
ithout further preface, he should ,
tended alterations. During the last
iffik manufactured in tereign countries
eidaration of the /louse. It en
Intim'. the duty should be.
vale.e. Some gentlemen were
fa
high, not in respect to the ire
If instead of 30 two bundred ,
the manufacturer would lure considered
sufficient to protect him; but it
to leave a considerable latitude ft
reason to fear the danger from sue
to the fears felt for the interests c
The French manufacturers felt I
feared, such was the extent and,
tune, that they would iced a sit
P2' .pert. *ln, rndninnnif conllnielMen
*e were dontamome.oosaeressitael.alsse . _. .
!Mace us ;4 PaiidCr OIAIIIIII4UpP AII,PiAsZIPI,
tures. which were long !Ma II ed anti haa Sinter) iii lieepitnt,
Ws quint to weigh anis well to sl to re*tn best
'ditties an prohibitions, which ,niggler..-
detriment of the legitimate merchant
siountry. (Hear, hear.) The duty
maximum duty on this commodity
it was found amply sufficient to pr
The cotton manufacture bad long
manufacture England excelled s
tbe manufacture, as in the price
Be believed there was no (men,
tuned cotton was imported.and the
in which our cotton was not prefen
he could have no difficulty in establ
faction of the nous: ; it was ens
Year the value of cotton goods
ended thirty millions. A prosy
of this kind, the Committee mi
than any other manufacture, the,
Dudes ; but there was a duty ,
country, and this duty was a stron
poly, when it was allowed to -
interest, and to sacrifice the it
one description of foreign cote
on another description 641 per
the shrewdness of the man who ,
secure protection to the home mat
description imported paid a dun
venience could arise, nor publi
of these prohibitory mid totall;
did not apply to foreign count
country under the protection of
of the principal articles of prods
we injured this country, which
ton to the value of some milli
country, was returned, and pa
small ad valatem duty also on
matter of to great importance.
the duties on cotton, from 75 T
cent., to 10 per cent., and tin
of 10 per cent. would be a suffit
facture against the rivalry of
Europe. (Hear, hear.) llavi
tore, he would now make an
though not the most flourishi
woollen. The woollen normal
legislative enactments. It whine
children of Legislation, and lin
found that in the long run the
had done it little service ; it
its younger brother, the cotton
so often interfere with, was rapt
ready made a great progress ant'
He should not enter into any de
pinions, to protect. as it was
He should be OW that those
unless they could be abawn at
not believe to what an extent the
with a view to protection, had I'
Mute he the honour of a stilt
aggeration to state, that inure ,
ntent tad been made to protect
of theSe Acts had ottani into
prescribed the praxes to be put
inanufaeturs; all were secompat
in many can to the punishment
his opinion wore only vexatious
impede the manufacture. These
swept away, but the duty at
fifty per cent. which duty Ile Pr
This manufacture, as well as
years made a very trifling i
advance was impeded by the et
the extension of the silk manul
cumbering it with legislative ea
ing duties. He had hinted at
facture, which he attributed t
ference ; and in order rill fiat
which the proposed reductiot
the state of the cotton and wool
and contrast the present state 1
year 1765, just sixty years fr
of cotton imported au 3.3511,
timidly of cotton imported
weight. Again, in 1765 the.
amounted to little more than 900.
would exceed 30 millions stern
manufacture. In 176.; the
amounted to 1,796,000 lbs.;
23,823 0001ba. The value
amounted to 5,959,0001. In
he carried on the contrast at
tratc his principle. The star
and at the present period supp..
But to return to the woollen 111$111
the growth of wool at home
of woul at present ; the i
the plans for producing plea
creased the number of sheep.
country. The quantity impot
nearly twelve fold. Vet in I,
5,959,0001., and in 1025 it awe
increase of export only °font n
value of cotton goods exported,
ceeded the whole exportation n:
somption increased in proporti
he had before stated it, our a
Melilla. The true principle fr
emptiest,/ was to give an t
rivalry. This was the prinen
founded. Ile should nest pet
the linen manufactory. It we
into a detail of ell the laws which
respecting linen imported from
to state, that the duties on lin,
rooms, elite lowest duty beir
cent, on the value of the nianuf
of trade, and to advance that i
by the house and the county_
duties on linen to an ad viler,
imported from foreign conntrii
admittedmaierial
winat;
much prawn
.girauwtyno'auf.f the
esor raw
ialpewrueent.
was
coneaereo
Risk, it must be confessed that
of 25 per cent. on linens imr
1 fears and prejudices of indit.
existed. At cell events, it mum
an ample protection to the want
bear.) As to the duties on pi
the duty on books, bound and
the prejudice of the English
books should be imported t
amount of that paid upon pa;
truing, but it was notorious
smuggling bock..
An Honourable Ilember,
if the Honoulable lienileman
books, when there war a copy
Ur. HUSKISSON eontit
books published abroad, and ,
existed in this country. Ths t
sixpence per pound, the present
pound. Ile should now writ '
this principle of prohibition,,
htbasoos. pervaded our whole ice,
duty on gns' which now amount
proposed to reduce to twenty
on common glass tottko was
Friend (the Chancellor of the ,
of the wine duties, it was very
bottles amounted to very cosh
precious Imaor which they r
envied that a duty nearly ine____
glass bottles to hnnlitiad would
common ran teener was at e