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to the Protection of the farmer?—'Me is no question
al•oot it
fi /aika ).' 1:44414,1
1111111molaht oteer ittreiand>
have Phraya bead it so raharasseit a market at every far-
ewes dour.
Wes Roy thitigeelekieeitrillt jo to mention to ttiii Corn.
usillsea impeding the MAK the Irish read° or the Irish
}tillage!-1 thiik it weilad hilt eseht Addition to .the pre-
sent ram Ise to have • Several proteqiun from Ike iwtoei-
tatioa of any groom. foreign eern., or anxtleseription, such
as we are iu Irelidd.welPht lioeihilifiol serve Ireland
very mock awl also heel! the Fmeliftsiof twier. t,T
tYgen you Pay " We," jot mean England ?-1I do; I think
that would be an amazing-14mM to the Country in general.
tistb.pswarey tntitrylia the • etthertallest Pit Irish firer too
the West Indies?..-1 have ernet•lrisls doer to America. add I
halm sea) Irish laser W .the West Indies; awl I am satisfied
that we ran prepare Irish Hoer equal to Lay A per open earth
ler dimwit too t I hare be quorNise whillia it, from thelrn-
provementa that have been made le ewe mills, and the dr.
tees es of them. • • • —I as veto a at
flavepom had any pronf•oldraidissmitellif se beep reeeived
imAteppeossivies?—There.lartisheiely, a yrejwitom ablest
it; Apt .1 'humid seppese times tildwilies A/woad in time be
resigned. 1.411
.Dis yore thick it woutillortp sw wlellimidlseliksh. as
imp eis.,eop Sour oe meth. I have' sitandwAir ill **y-
ids so. .
.;Fe whet do yew altribete impirentemmilli Ste the ustsmo.-
faitose tef the goer besides the impearsessewedi the millet is
it Amp degree 'owieg to- the /Oaf of prepshing Ihe Auer?
improveresel• in the machisery sett By the so eottme.
11eassiCii.. the Lovelier mitire peeress of kilo-dryer yid
eto oreeri pus wate,before it gees so the hopper to he Evened.
.terwilithopertigultin of rho process In that eisaufartory
Whetime:rearitas weenie* from the farmer', it comma in rt.
• volosiono •me and very dame mare; so mech so, that Wit
lay for a week its that elate In our granary it would be mt.
loojersit ; to perevierVidoelt It t, immediately taken to
mid lefimphortlyikneued ever before it goes to
• &ha bilis. Anse Om it iv' pet iota prom,. for keeping, by
ebtweellardie grist beam relented ieM our gramme., amid
. frepwagams flews "non h se entire preeess before it goes
toe the hopper by • olAreot mode of cleaning, Stikine every
• Joker* it out ofit,elit also takieg Or small'
i ells Mgt which lo crowed biroparttertar poorpowers rad i
II chard into owl 4. cased third er fuuAh brtr. ''•
615 whit grimes core is lune is adindied ?—Yea; 411
11 .11611111paksberd for roadslittehre whew the ports sne is
ettillihelelitm•earn. t d. , '

, Whets it is isdreitted, knew of any isistiailte
swimetiniontige Boer lisollistioseol to !relied as if it di&
flour ?—1 cannot take wpm myself- to sly thief
lino" the face of my woe komiladigriAtut I have heard of
its being rime, tied I believe it ; .11hilmq however; no proof
of it.
That• meld S eliswe is. lasitlletsilllit folio Newt ,
w ati yummy. plvelihiartk be Eag art ft 11* life h 'tee '
• iLeamolalp somit *sass Is.-
Aptisedaihillielrepeiheas, it le • selielltetv of the OIL
Ifieste,ef *Odle OMMIIPIN lustead of IirIBM airs
,alonhe of sji 1.11
Will ,suttee:, whettserilM plartreeiteilifimanted for edilla
lately lieril 00.114; lb Andigpeoplo issawegest
What ll 11 awsloira.isksdib.sMJ arts*
ing effect wileirdlessA.:‘ • • • Ins oi ,1 • • .1 Is
state what .411001 the (*maw et ll* peoleasslisosillbel
article in Itelawro-11 had • gnat eliseeeponiepailopelegei
la what way?-4y, producing • prillalessepigilliotrip
the price is the Unwed Kiagdosa. • .1 • • •i.
Was the price st that sissy high is Irelaird,?-4t was
compered with the presets'.
What were the priers?—They were fuer, the, wraiwoilli
hags a barrel, mom thee at pretest. 1 wappros *ad with
ablaut the differesce tekilig it from my remalbsehoo. AIM
convinced that the ports beau( upefted at lONA 11011e**Alle
testicle of oats, produced • reduction is miti,l4l *Pi
farmer equal to elms would pay the whet* real-
spring curt of the couistry; and that epee • very
talculatiou.
How long did it last ?—it lasted mail for follow* few
ter day.
Was the quaatity imparted at that time eery- great ?
understaadlehont 'lOO,OOO quarters; I have not the retort*
You speak of the importation bite Ireland.alwee?-414
have had so importation sutra Ireland; the insportstion
into Englaed awl Scotland. In speaker' of !reined sleet,;
take the liberty of 'Amine on what I ground fay celestial/OOLP
take the average reist!per acre for smilax COCO to be 110011.
which would produce as average produce of .10 barrels itif
lolls; sod as I apprehend, the price, in reasemmeee of Ile
port. twin opened, declailed at least 3s.gor barrel, dye
would hive paid air tenant's resit. .1 .w
Hare you any reason to believe that that pulse was She
f tic price at which the Reticle should have been ealeelatelli
—1 ad moat-mod it was not ; I have op heatiolisso is lope '
lox
yelfhleiffect any eireenislancts Alma roe ese meMie.
I. the Committee, which lead you to the sepposition that it
wee not the fair price ?—I have au circumstances to aseation,
firmly what was so perfectly known, that the prices in every
part of the country could out have justilied the upeniug of
the ports.
Have you heard of any fraud being practised epos that
subject ?—I have heard of two or duce fraud. practised of
that kind; there was a fraud practised about too years
sauce which Mr. Peel told me off, which uccasioard the
peril to be opened for the importatioa at foretop' vets. 1
think Ibis was lira years ego.
s •
The ComniiitSe'squestior referred to the peasant time, as
to the late °swain of the ports. Have you heard of any
frauds practised, shack iuduced the "vetoing of the port. last
fcar ?—I have; 1 head that the ports were 'peed by
raud.
In what particular way was that fraud practised ?—I heard
that originated is some place to Wales. from which retinas
were made, and by which the average price of eats was takes;
ortfasso who hi!' credit mil capital emulsible raise the pries
acme by flogs mimes, to that moment which is the
criterion fur njeolog the ports under the Kemal law, may
effect such a f3rlifipsd it is by ih.t ea am that the freed is
restyled to br Oa.
Them the wink injury to Irelaed, by the insportallm of
oats, is impatalikto the defect of the cum laws, are their
Oilsidaterpseimooefoa ?—No questioa of it : it is the defect
so the eiseepplesbof the owe Is.. that occasioned that aril-
-04.4. ;
If that impariatioto had sot been made of ails, have you
relesion to twine that the present detwerniee is the price
would sot hove hoen se great as it is?—Most certainly it
would not.
Then you have reason to believe that the present deprew
sine is owing to that fraudulent importatiow?—Not to the
retest that it operates; bet it hue been the cause of • town.
dereble &premien equal to the quantum I have mentioned.
Are Dot oats • very great crop its Ireland ?—.l very great
crop; a prod giosa crop.
/e out the tillage of oats very extrusive ?—Very extensive.
Irelasil has alarms been in Ike baba of exporting eats ?
Always ; sad I th ask the raportatauns now are more exten-
sive than they have been iu consequence of the of the
former. lietarose be caw reach the culture of .Me use he
PUMA reach cheat.
About abet time did the agriculture of Ireland WOOS,
ion:ease; bow many years ago du you recollect
many years age.
Whew . was it the Met aviculturel law was mengill, to
which the increase of Irish tillage is to be attribeelvd?—
About 33 or 34 years ago, as well as I me recollect.
She has beret an espoetsug country for assay years ?—For
many years, excepting use or two calamitous years.
,lass been an exportiwg and out an importing country
MeSliqm the first VIM law passed?—Yes, with the eamptacies I
have mentioaed.
le •Irelas4 capable •f produciew a great deal more Mae

diedsorstross !-111.1 doubt's( it. -
Too hear looked to the history of the imports of earn lots
Eastman frees the cora papers; hats lots at (Wives,
—1
ilitjt yore spinhoo that the Irish agrietilturists meld sup.
ply all the delete's*, that there is in tie English sitailtet,
if they woo sosisepi.l4, eateod their tillagsN-11 illsok
Nu re is p Not the Wasted llitegdosty
imaimitt i. leirepoble of vapillieg beast/ 112111 iris
emu i —4. v.., tinw it-J4eLtml .115 ,iutom-m Mai.
44 dr pos Nat OM eapply-w Ilidlimillattels,
•ao) e. We.= lu owitsstue/ sat duly!! nog a .if

farmer frit confidence in the protection of the legislature?...
I have n.l doubt of it tnid eti estilefied it would bare the'
effect which I mentioned. fore, of perpetuating plenty
and keeping the prices from ing execs/dye.
Do you think Pitirsiis they was that pteoty in the coontry i
that the 'litre *woad. be Miemeive ?-1 Ads* it 'Could sat ;1
and I do think further, thativo one bad harvest or calgssitene 1
year Woolf seillscia• • *fees lie mid, alright as tcrreeder #t I
Osecner7 to hP•h•the parte .foe. foreign•cure ; that le, nate
ovine period,. when the law began to week; and the trtip
j/14111/ 0 lo‘d confidence In .the asseriarelhet` it gave
protection : verifrot altiodideeee- in legislate". protection
would produce this dai4eahle effect.
, What is the quality
,rtf Utah wheat. as ebmpared wills
Englkh ?—lt. is inferior in.qqality ; that ia, it io inferior In
qiitility Liking it when coming from the farmer as from the
English farmer ; the picas), of Irish wheat id that state is
inferior to the English 4 lout if we export the corn it is put
halo such a condition that I think it them. comes as nearly as
possible to the average qualify of the Eagliah wheat. .....,,
At what ditiereace of prica.world you estimate the Infe-
riority of Irish wheat to English wheat I—.l don't think I
should be able to answertheiLiestiOn it's any other way than
by comparing the two ipAfttilijuithq, wpg ;Oat I have
mentioned.
la the !KNOBS marteet,44if fa' Oa' flgeiWee of .prie
between the linglish and kirb wheat per quarter ?-1 hare
stated to Ilse Committee, that before we scud Wheel lo the
• I.saiiess alarliM we are istiiigett to prepare IV; itteat'il 4doe at
aa esteem, of shoat Tt per emit. It will take that to pre-
pare it, mid pat it into cosaliiiiiri fur abipirieti atter we re-
price it faint the farmer; sod .sben that wheat mispee'lio the
fondue market I papoose Uptill an average it may be Se. ir
Se. a quarter ten in value than the average • r the grinds
tore.. Bet there is • cou.i.terahle ikffilrouies In the este of it
AriPtrioe "veiny. When I ens telkiatof the averagn I as
remiss to the middle wheats of both eftwatries ; mid I
plaupidi ionagioa gliaA that wool/ he the difiermika is Poice.
Tesso the Irish Sae wheats, that is seldom rewparketl4? In.&
litefor4l? low rd has:4 IV the millet he maim eraPerlaedhosell
jhope sr oasis own",: . .i s'iriiiSl.Vr !.
Whet !awe, du yea.think, would be a, pastaprpolose.prlee
for wheat per Euglish quarter to Ireland ?—1 an. inadriptate
to my.. The present price of wheat is ireleasi, takes raw
:train tlie linnet, is abort leSs. to 265. Irish,. kw 29 stone;
•insdl„hat *sold 'stand in 40s. to 42.. lifritiOr meaty per Itirt.
'HA granter, to pot ' it 4.111 board ship prepared.
Is. that a remunerating price .tu the farmer?—Wheat
eaglag to lothltin irniilil he sub eel to tn. a quarter more,
bold maim it 49.. a quarter ; .., Mit o.persoo buying
Untessue preeent is. Ireland in any of thee's+, as Dublin,
Waterford, Limerick, iv. it would-stanil him pa,boar.l ship
4111 e: British; sod 49.. to Landing, after elf elsirges; there-
fore, Wooed forells.. British, it would truly leave a hoe lot.
'mice for his *hest and expenses.
That iii, it world leave bins no profit?—lt would leave
him too profit whatever.
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How much unite, its reemsterating price would this be to
the Irish farnterl--I and sot able to answer that question ;
I am so farmer. • A great, deal depends upon the quantity
of his crop; their last'atip, certainly, has hero very great.
ailtatit brew what.is the expense el cultivating an acre
is Irelaud ?—No, I 40 eat; I am cost a practical
fereatr.
Have thiexpenses of cultivation bee. lately redeeed
iylp believe that they have biers reduced i• this way; that
asasy farm.es have been au reduced, that, instead of so-
playing labourers, ,they-employ themselves and their fami-
lies; and that, of tisane, must greatly tend to reduce their
expenses.
Uut have any of itre "'niers employed by the farmers in
tillage been reduced in price?—Not that 1 kuow of, indeed
the 'dirks that they make sae of are inn expensive.
Ho you expert them to be reduced in price ?—I do nit
know; hot this I will say, Alai the article., 'nth as euackii-
eery sad mechanical apparatus, which the Irish farmers use
in cultivating thy soil, are nut at all of the descriptioss used
by the English farmers. It. that country the mechanical
part of the tillsollatildlltitAllierent thing from what it Is
se this. ,4 • 04
Would not a fall of ruslegdoes lbe remunerating price to
the farmer
How work do yea siker amid the remunerating price of
Coro in Irelood be redline by a reduction of the sent ?—I
cannot answer that gemming precimly ;.but I helirre at this
moment that the rate at which spring corn sells now, turd at
this advanced permit ost the year, it world nut admit of pay-
ing say rent by the farmers.
If the present law pries of corn should continue, there
will he no temptation to the Irish isrmer to itierease the
lege *that emilitry certainly out. ~ow
Can any corn law of the dear-rooms' of the praerisl.town
give protection to the farmer; for example, suppusiug in.
stead of BOs. the. peateeting price should be 100..?-1 do
consider that the present law is fully sualcieut ; I should not
like to see the aiersge priers raised. I am pertectty saskilled
that it would be, full protection, provided, at 1 limb the
liberty of nientiouiug beim*, that it gave 4110 mown.*
which it profc;ses.
a•irt.r.4 hut. «•
But you hare,rensos I. believe thee it deed 11•1 g whet
it possesses ?—Certsialy, lassinucli as it is found that finisde
have beet. commuted spun at, by causing IlMi polls OA,
opened when they should set be °peas* fpaypt,that I *yaw
the roeclusiou I have saatianord.
supposing as frauds is be committed, do you think That
the present law priorities.* oudicient protecting duty to the
farmer ?—I do.
Supposing that this celeste), grew nuns corn than its owe
consumption, .wiruid
btke prevent law be any protection
would be a protectioe,,eltissately ; it woohl be a source of
confidence to the farmeruhat oinking Inure than that at present.
The Ceetimilite wedmehsed you to say, that you would
peeler a persevamnt duty as the isspertativa iatesesi, to the
preseet core law ?-inThe Committee has properly noderstood
me, bat that preference too pereacent duty is spore the
pwiaciple that it would be giving mere wearily, is prevent.
lag the recurrence of whet has already happened, eases(
the eons law by mesas of freed; far as ether purpose would
1 preface permanent duty; I am perfectly satisfied with the
law as it stands, it it ie duly and fairly enforced.
Have you formed say episiimeathabitermanette duty would
be equal to the protection which the present cora law would
hold out, if so frauds were eninesitted ?—No, I have not
funned glop opinion upon that point.
If the Industry and capital of Ireland were not employed
in agriculture, do you think they would out lie employed at
all ?—I really du not see In what oilier way they could he
employed, or what opening Ware would be for employment.
What do you menu by protection to the
.miller ; dues the
corn law afford that protective ?—Yes, very great protection
in the. article of fluor, by not suffering any foreign fluor to
come into the *man y ; it is by that diet the dour aside uf
Inland bog been established. , • I
You bars elated that you. eau prayers Isiah dour as pod
as foreign doer ?—No question of it. ~ ••s
But Call you export your flour at as cheep it price as fa.
reign coestries eau?—We base not been able to export it
on the same terms that America dues.
Du you expect that is time !related will be able to com-
pete with America sad other entwine*, in the exportation
of dour?—l really consort sinner that question, because
whether she sill ur will not be aide, must depend spots her
brio/ in a cuuditiou to grow corn as cheap as it is grown in
America and utter foreign countries.
But can you grow corn as cheap is Ireland as it is au*
in America sad other foreign covutties do aot supping
we can.
Then your opinion is, that Ireland cannot compete with
foreign reialilrlita ill the supply of flour for exportation ?-a
That will depend upon our crops and our prices, of course,
whether she will be able to du it ; it is impossible to give
any positive answer upon the subject; at the commence.
meet of the American war 1 seat dour to America as low ap
Ins. the cat.
Although it may happen, that you will be able ao to Pas
Pete at some seasons, you do sat expect that you itenl4.ili
able regularly to compete America in the supply el
flour fur exportation?—Not in the ;penal run, in are-
wirer, of the rent and charges opus our .4. hard
could sot compete so the general market of thenifielll,
cause. • •
Do you know whether rests bare lately fallen to IredaaAl
believe they hare,
flow nisch have they fallen )...1 am out able to Worm.
Ille Cumeiktee bow murk.
I, die you know bee mush rents had risen heiress 1797 andi

..: aiu 1Y

18131—I comsat lees ;hp remollitible &Nati, but 1 Ise-
'Neve they well, ral 'ooriaderablt.• • '.'
Have you turned your satenaista to the effects produced by
• the alteicd value of esrrearresktpainrietteoll hart Sad ether 1
commodities!—No; thatona sahleslisbs2t which I 1"4 •°- •
noise; I have slimy, beesiesuctically employed, and I boss'
ircer tamed my attestion to arch tialeallallave. .• r 1
• Do yod 11112 k, that is far as regards the prelim' af liiii.
porting foreign core, the interest of the cookware of core is
the same as that of the laid oilseitel Eosin answer that I
question further thins this, that • 11•111 ink the consumer mast
certainly receive considerable besedll by nese elite, hull it
been grown in the country instead (Wits being imported.
Is, it not always the interest of the consumer to bay his
eisentediey at the cheapest price ?—1 should imagine so,
dough theteemietios id my stied is, that it would not.
-Thee W 11048414 hey bismeelshisspor ie a foreign market,
it wadi he his Wettest ea to dot-1 shoold suppose it wetted
be his interest halm so, bat then if you take that prig% mod
lkeep it constantly at that, it must diminishl2 Coqpiappnia'
deasead for some other articles in peopuit as 1)1!,M-
ess . • •
ebeimrs of them decrease.
Dander the pretest ems law, do you ad 11119195 IMO ibll
range of Becioation is grim is greeter thane tokallilesibld
rust if we had so core ituarlsatree ?-4,olm,Npalllblu•Ap
intswer that questioa. eULA___ ,*
• Will not the inetniallity 1112se. 'of
utak es
to the British lute/?-alisitfreee it 11112,191 Arra-
lion of bri *print deal more sore to t starket,
aunt i *howl4 . litidlaslat, base thheelllll4 me far, of
injuring him. 'A . '
f,. eft mire h.., Ire
You have stateigillsit-yeili Hook. OW Im!Wort i:4
exported more cons Ikdb4bvry slit did before; do you I
that more was explitall nisi la the year 1812 l'—el this! 't
great deal mom; I.talg dub, the public diseadebeillert 'll'l
How is the price of men amersaised is Irelands:444ot
means I—cAt oar public markets; the referee are ei
the Dublin Market exactly Nigel are giver in h-re at . •
lane • the factors ging the returns upon oath once a nee .
Do you think that abase retorts include the whole frau-
aity that comes to meglikla--Nek they do not iodide galleon.
• D” you think iheitalie.y.are reeve pos of the soiddliog wean.
thy of corn ?—T the returns that are mule of every
ei defertplitg, of rood mod pad; feocs the best to the
414;"
"rig; i.; ,11.44 1 • e•',,, .., .' " $
. Bet iallt4delmonilililtlllllll9lpralltity is incloded ?
.... 1 dos% thisk this samils gpospliorpietiellbik Thalia may
be seven, .parcels aypille44l% 90 Johlediabally scipalesi.
pally from toiled. . .„., -' 444
Is the caltiwatioilieltlliitloi -11t1e114).4. !
Vert, taile. %1•I't A!' ‘,/.441 ile. •
Har tholOwelleMliOoolldatfai'lli Ireland *rinelitiltill the
lajory of the eslailpllaltsof War. Otis t—Noil • I, de.imit
think it has. I this% 19pellevema a general Memos* ensieory
species of grain, excepting barley ; our cousomptiun of 'nail
has diminished seriously.
To what do you attribute that diminution ?-1 believe, in
a great degree, to the poverty and partiality of the people to
spirituous liquor; the manumpsiou of mak liquor has fallen
off within these last three years more the one.third, neuter
half than one-third from what it was.
To what circumstance du yuir amanita that decietprdAttielt
malt ?—I attribute the decrease of the cons; ;plies If ineat,
in- geogreat Mint, to the inability of the pmoplii Wray*
ror. ; a *lllllii I,;u- sa. I
..• hare youreelf,baeles beigeel—Yes; foe 25 yaws. ••
you thirst the people of Ireland would beentsr•iticliserd
to mall liquor if they could afford to drink it !—Ceriataly k a
circumstance also operate. as a great discoisragensesit to-malt
liquor is the cheapens. of-opirittious !ignore ; the brnraries
newer case be extemiessabilealOgiliut of spleini Ili aIaIPM as
they are at pressM. , -,., .4;4 • , s • ! .' •i. w•,! ..I,t
You are applying Ibis obserwatios to Ireland gmerally /
To Ireland entirely.
' And g !refloat generally?—And to Ireland generally.
• - le the malt distillation is Inlaid increases; or Mersa-
imecciseressiog hopmerempiainbeiplaha lay leloweltioris
hi• .laertmeil it. ~ -•• , .• :it .•• • • • ,-. ), C ti .• !,
_ What revenue do you pay bp phi Crown for malting?—lily
monthly charge is 1,8401.; I imilt 2,400 barrels moonily,
had I pay 15s. 2d. for the deli** oacir barrel.
You are sot immediately defending as a brewer ?—I am ;
sad haws bassfor9s years. e ,
Do ,past espied soy of root heir !—Yeeplikle;•hordly
say. q ~,I ,
.', it ' P,sl ...ill ~
r De rt." Ail that theserf bier le pestle die-
(washer( in reload ?-11e4ly decrea•ing; but
latterly not so much; thea little bottler cow
(has it haa twee fur the lasi tellopeen.
What was your consumption for the year 1820 compared
with the consumption of 1818?—Our consusaptiou has bees
diminishing considerably during the last three years; and as
well as I can recollect, I think than 30 years ago the con-
sumptive of malt in Ireland was 12,000,000 barrels; sad 1
b,h,ue it I. not 500,000 hostels at the present time.
:, TM population of Ireland has materially iscressed since
that time ?—No doubt of it.
Are you aware that any alteration has been made in the
regulations of the malt intercourse between Gina Bring
led Ireland?-1 know, myself, that there has been such au
literati's. We can now import malt from Great Britain to
Irehied; and Ireland can export malt to Great Britain.
.. Do you believe that that alteration will conduce to the
Prosperity of both countries?-1 don't think, at present, it
will be of any importance; there has not been any wait am-
ported from England tug Ireland yet, to consequence of 11.
. le that alteration a general iillr l••• 1 believe it is; but bar.
. try, at present, lieing so extremely low in Ireton.', it dues
cot admit of soy importation of malt; our mak and our
barley are-very much inferior to the malt and barley of treat
Britain ; there is no article of grain in which the difference
Is 110 great, as between the barley of Boggled and that o f
Inland.
But you have, on some occasions, imported a mach larger
qsautiey of Esighsb malt than you have on others?—Ye.,
certainly ' • we have had very considerable importatioos of
British barley and British mall in former years.
To what reuses do you attribute that fluctuation in the
tree?—Te want of consumption, certainly; onr consump-
lila was so much greater at that period; besides, at that
period, as well a, 1 can recolko, the distilleries were obliged
to use malt only. Certsiely so, at one period.
Is that ceseation of intercourse in the malt trade to be
attributed to the poverty of Ireland ?—I do not know that it
ems altogether be attributed to the poverty of Ireland • but
1 world say so far as this, that if we had an increased de-
mand, we should image to aepply it from our own growth.
What is the price of labour at this moment in Ireland ?—I
suppose the coanson labourer gets about 1.. a day.
How is What prier, as compared with what the labourers
get in time of war ; what could a day-labourer earn, fur the
same labour is time of peace, compared with his labour is
time of war ?—Wheal lam talking of Is. a day for labour, 1
don't mean the labour performed in the cities. I presume
the Committee, is its qrsestion, had ref entirely to
agricultural labour ; I am nut quite a judge of it, but as far
as I CM judge, the agricultural labourer gets about Is. a day.
Have the wages is Ireland been lowered lately '—i believe
!bey are rather lower than otherwise; for the food of the
is very cheap, anal the farmers not being able to
Cloy so y
the labourers; there are thousands of labourers who
would lake less wages, if they could get employment.
I. there any alteration is the diet of the poor of Ireland;
bas any recent change taken place in that respect, or is the
diet the same as in former years ?—I have bad no opportu-
nity of knowing anything to the contrary; their diet is very
poor and very plain.
Is there any consumption of meat among them P—Cer-
Minty sone of soy importance.
Is there soy coasomptios of Imam P—Very little, iodised.
Ras the taking away of the supply of beef for the army
and navy, had say material effect in the cultivation of Ire-
land, In the tesideuey to redact the quantity of land in a
date of pasturage?--There is a cossiderable quantity of land
Illat was under pasture, that is now broken sp on cones-
suasee, for arable land.
~
,taiebore any
lr other manufacture in Ireland besides that of
manufacterc ?—Not that 1 know of, that is very
' .
-4211pilipoist of foci, the eamploymest of the population
of Wise& exabssieely of them engaged is the lima trade,
depends oa agskalloreN—Alsasst eateralikwith the exceptive
14- ilpiptillfereit lama miablialvestate. hail
itrillteep are smasfactories of satin, ?—Yet, then
' ••".asod I smiersiaad are rather
11911111111119910 of nutted realer at 1111/e - lkea II
~, .:zeic:•e.:, • • -• :: .':0 1:i

artia .iu ; I detail fbitik it is; it jet very treat
drfplerden.
thee the presents was it ?—..1 Molt it was; **elate
plitve:eir is now better, provisious arc so a sneerer', cheap ;
moreewee so in stienseninry of any body; I he-
4sietisioes sell so low in seismal parts as three halfpence a
.afestrojef 1111 e.; thousaads of the poor live ahem* entirely
on
Mem.
Can you intone the Committee what are the internal re.
inlatious of the custom-houses in the different ports of
J respecting the admission of foreigu eons; are yen SO.
ilosinterl wish their internal regelations respeetiag ewe-
houses ?—I usderstaiid some cargoes arrived after the purse
were clotted.
Is thee' any cern remaining in warehouser, of the ins-
portation• into Ireland prior to the Ifish of February, 1819,
at the tinatithe ports were open?—There is souse Americas .
flour, but oo .'urn.
But are the regulitiona of the enslonelimise such, that
that American or may other foreign cora cannot get Sato
fraudulent circulation ?.7eletnelerstand that the regulatiore
have been violated.
The question put by the Committee is, whether core
mitfra into Leland tinder hued, can come into circulation
fraudulently ?—I did hear that a cargo was carried to a par-
ticular Dort in Ireland, and that it got in after the purse were
ordered to be shut; it was put !Apr bleed and got out ; but
by what means I cutout tell.
Do you know this of peer, pgmy koolaholge du met ;
but I believe that is the fart.
What happened at Duedalk, with ieferenee to the same
point?-1 owlet-staled a leas inippeted • cargo into that
purl, and it was put nufkr.:ool,4ljock, said believe
he
toatrived to get out agate.
Aed consume it ?—I believe there is no doubt of it.
Upon what food do .he poor of Ireland chiefly subsist ?
Uppo potatoes. 'IE
Any thing else?—Very Moe etre.
Du they get any wheat bread?—Na, they seldom think of
it; they get come oat bread, hut very little of that ; I am
not nue speaking of the city of Dublin ; when I talk of the
poor of Ireland, I mean the peasantry its the country ; the
people of the city gentiany rat wheat bread; they loudly
think of any tither; ',Amenl sometimes made into bread,
Dr that they bake themselves.
To what causes do you attribute the very low priers of curie
sad pcb.toes?-1 attribute the preesal low prices of corn 60
two very greet harvests, one succeeding the either; we
never hail such a harvest in Inland as the I rat year'. hat vest.
The harvests of 1819 sod 1820 ?—Yes ; the last berrest of
Idlpart
Have you paid tench attention to the effects of abundance
the prices of corm anal potatoes I—Not particularly; I
have uu other observation to make 011 that subject, than that
abundance g Ily produces a great reductiose in prices.
But dem it peorbsee a greater reduction of prices than iu
proportion te„gagjogrease of steautity ?—I du suppose it
does.
Do you happen to bare the prices of corn in Ireland for a
seem of years ?—Yu, Amami years.
you now give them into the Committee?—No, 1
eentiol.; the Committee has them much wore accurately in
print, as laid before the Hesse by order of Parham:et.
.• ate 1 es .1". • • CRUELTY.
&singular instance of cruelty presented itself on Friel.),
lee. thirese time ago several small houses wire built in
Love dace, adjoining to Newark; one of them happened
to be inhabited by a mar and his wife who very seldom
*eat out, and never without looking the door. Suspicion,
for some lime, existed amongst the neighbour., owing to
rearing snoassing and other unhappy sounds. It happened
that the man was from home, and his wife going out,,she
left the door open, when a woman slipped into the hatter,
mod on going up stairs found a female, almost u•ked, sitting
in a small closet. She immediately informed the chief con.
stable, who, with an ovefseer of the perm, went down, and
much against the will of the woman of the hoes., went up !
weirs, and found confined a female, who proved to be the
woman's sister. She had been confined then for half • year
In that lhouse, but has beeu in their care several years. It
appears they received 281. per annum on her arcuate, but
fed her upon water poet, and kept her in so small a room
that she could not Stretch herself, which had se emetracted
'and wasted her legs that she has lost their use. When taken
to the workhouse she was very backward in giving answers,
but since she has begun to eat a little and recover the use of
speech, she talks almost incessantly. She proves to be •
person from Bassingliam, is Lincolnshire, and is what is
generally termed silly.—(Nottingiass Review.)

MADRID, AwatiOT extraordinary Gazelle
has beep published to-day, contationg a dispatch
from the Governor of Pastor Rien, announcing the
recapture of Caraccas by' General Morlles on the
27th May, and the total defeat of Bermudez it
states that General Latorre had defeated the stay
of Bolivar.
On Monday oe'llitight, during a thunder-storm
nt Crai ke, near Eatingwolil, AMES SR Era SSD, Esq.
Magistrate of that place, was struck by lightning,
and remained see, rat minutee, to all appearances,
in a senseless state. A iiintetion, however, anon ra -
turned. and tie is now in • fair way of recovery.
Mr. SHEPHERD 'was prevented by the accident
from attending at Yolk as a witness on a trial, on
which he had been mbpaeuned.
The following Prisoners were lift for execution on Satin.
day ee'unight at Winchesttr i—Johu Hoiebes, fur burelari.
ously breaking into sad robbing the horse of John Hick.
man, at Rumsey Extra. Joh.' Woodmen alias Brook (a
soldier, convicted of burglarious!y breaking into and r..bbing
the house of Captain J. K. White, at Pormea. The rest of
the Prisoners ou ebom sentence at death was passed, have
been reprieved. The above-named John Hughes, who is
only 19 years of age, was convicted at Winchester Assizes
of breaking into the house of John Hickman, at Romsey
Extra, in the night of the 19th of June, and stealing direr,
goods. Mary Norwood, housekeeper to Hickman, stated
her master tube of a very advanced age, said very deaf. In
the night mentioned in the indictment, two men took a pane
of glass out of the kitchen window, and gut into the kitchen.
One came to her bedside, and dragged her into Hickman's
room, were she was secured, while the otitir ransacked the
bons*, and threatened, If either made • nisi-e, that both
should be murdered, awl the premises set on fire. The man
held her down with one hand, and in the other wax a pistol.
They were nearly half an hour in the house. Hickman
was pinched so herd by the throat, as he lay in bed, that
he fainted twice. While they were plundering, one of the
men took a box, and broke the lid; it contained two 1/.
notes, two half-guineas, some buckles, and other article..
—The °ther went to Hickinau's bedside, and after searching
his eloiltes, fetched a candle, and took out of • box
151. in notes, and some silver, in all nearly sixty pounds.
The 01411 who stood over witums then snapped his pistol
twice at the old man's face and, turning the ben end
towards him, said be would brat his brains out for ant say.
log where the money was concealed. Hickman's bed was
very bloody, in consequence of the pinches he received.—
Oa going away, both Prisoners threatened to roam and
reorder ahem if they gave any alarm within half an hour.
Hickman corroborated the foregoing evidence. Jae. Watts,
ante King's Arms, Salisbury, deposed, that the Prisoner
came to her house ou the 20th orient, about eleven o'clock
in the morning. He said he had just come In from South-
ampton, and having taken 204. he silver, wished her to gin
hie sows for it. Previous to going out, be delivered to her
charge a bundle, and on his return, about five in the even.
lag, gave her 16/. to take care of. In the afterootaa atlas
next day be was taken into custody, sad on the bundle he
hmaght being produced, lisry Norwood idestilied its ma.
teats. The Prisoner, in his defence, merely observed, MN
he had perchased the *sticks and paid foe them. la pro-
nonaciagjudgmeat, the Judge admonished the Prisoner to
prepare to meet his fate, which, his Lordship assured him,
was certain nod bievitekle. Tll4llllOOlOOll of Hughes and
Woodson will she place no Saturday. at eight ectleek Is
she oroesiog, apes a now deep, erected upon the party-wall
of the 'ciao% facto; Sisple Garden-lama, Markman.

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Monday evening, Rohm Frwat, miler at the 6•11 mod
Mackerel, Milc.end, 11,1Hll1thg in the skittle ground,
where a ntsmher of bone ck slftetiTlFlVerf at play, was konthed
down by some of them, •od robbed in a most tilting and
barefaced manner ,of two suverei4ns nod If. Ills. in Were,
with which the party escaped user the palings. isisorsiine
saf the circumstance Iraq riven to the police of the &kirk*.
Tuesday evening, Cihow, cooluctor of * party of the
street gnomis stationed in that quarter, fro. private intr.
si alio , went in sourish of the Rug towards. How C.lwarmi,
where they usually went to hunk ilkr prey; nu their discover-
ing his approach, and finding t io they, were lekcly In be ae.
cured, one of the party, alto it appeared was the ringleader
and most active iu the rabtry, named John Gritty, jumped
into the middle of till, Itrivides Canal, el oat to which Ike y
`were at the time, and before he could be got out he was can.
fbrtneiately drown. el The body was taken a‘huic soar time
afterwaiels, but all the Int ans usid to re•tuse animatiom
proved theft:dual. 'The lowly +ma taken tu a public-!watt
aiklarrt Au the Coroner's Ineiur.t.

NAVAL INTR LLIG ENC F.
•
rovet.imerw„ itterite 21.
Peered by the Ching, Alnay. yrgw Nevi 'Redford fur BM
Dieu; and Syreo, Tay lur, fretarThoitlid
VArSIOI/1174 AIJCOCT 20.
Arrited Ike Slew dope, Knell, true !Who' •' Two Idrullarta
and Slitters, Burch; meld Ussioit, Brukrothir, from Loudon.
COWS", •VGIIST 22.
Arrival the Eli phrater, finial, for. Loutiuu ; to take temps
le toe &laws illus.
Re.nwicw. atioutre 21.
• Smiled the Lord Helios packet fur Kushaves, sod Vito.
Stuart packet fur Hulland--cach with a mall.

RUM. lislOver 21.
Arrived the Cicero, loaf, from Gerealaarl, with sewers
fish, 220 butts. The (..11..wieg acruent of the Gr.-related
shops 1. H. been received from Coplaie G•II, who hoarrh./ the
Enterprise passing Homers him eight 1--.4bram, severs
fish; Elisabeth, to Sob, 130 loess Earle, well fished ; Vest-
rable, 10 fish, It* tom. No *lteration in the other 'hips.
DEAL, accost 22.
Came down from the River sad 'Ailed the 3. lira, Dale, fur
Antigua t Corselet.. Conn, for Liverpool; sad Hope•ell.
For be., for St. John's. N B
Arrived mod mailed for the River, the !Swim Ilterbeal, from
St. Valery —A Hest lodises's'', name wokereare, N workidg
bite the Dosses.
The Andalusia, Rich, from Memel to Southampton, is N.
tally lost of MeseeL • .
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• RTINGS OP esimititrokt. AT cuiLDII., it
TO-MORROW.
M. R.
J. Toiling. late of Ware, tailor
J. Tyerman, Bristol, haberdasher
C. Biblett,Guildfuwd, money.scrivrio r
J. Gray, Bialsop.gate-street-With Is, silversmith 3 lo
FT. Moiety, New-road, glass-warehuusekeepee 3 II
T. 21edrl, Holborn. draper. 3 In
W. EISA. X. Paddington,wharfinger . 3 12
T. Thompsois, late of Feneburch-sheet, timbre-Mer-
chant
H. Golding, late of Ishilpot.lsne, wine-merchant
J. Walsh, Bar bream, victualler ..5.. 3 12
S Couchinan, Ca nierbery, grocer ......... •.. 2 it
S. Schosaeck, St. Mary Ass, merelmet
A. Boyd, Commercial-road, se .ster4litdiete
J. Stamm., Worcester, tval-narrelitat
W. Picot, Ratcliffe-highway, grocer'
Peake, Sloane-sr:sere, Been-draper • 12
IT. Portholes?, Wigton, dyer . ••• 1 Is
F. M. Hodges, late of Manchester, drybalite
11. Rumen, Bethnal green, oilman
It C. 31arr, Rathhone plate, linen-draper . .
H. Rainier., Dtpiford, victoaller:
DIVIDENDS.
H. Borgess and J Hubbard, 31ilca'-lase sad Leeds,
wools:apt...a
J. Millard, Cheapside, limn-draper lO
M. Bailin., late of Broild-arreet.lruildiuga. merchant.
G Shakspear, Pall mall, hlacking.maisefactorer
J. Edwards, Spitallields, aulkonan
.1. F. Street, Budge-row, stationer . . l2
R. Philpol, Banbury, diaper ..
H. Lark and J. Wood's. ad, Essen-street, navy-mg. ins ll
R. Clay, Stamford, arriseoer
W. H. Tuesly, High street, iron-merathamt ll
S. Rocker, Brold.aireet, merchant ll
W. Abbott, Windham•plare, merchsei
H. Fuller, Beth., .I.green road, aargam 1
A. Keating, late of the Strand, silversmith
S Cater, Watling-str.etorarehouremon l2
W. Dunn, Huston, wholeaale-ophotaie
CERTIFIcATis.
J. H. Pritchard, late of Carleou. Moesenuth, tin-plate.
manufacturer —M. Brookes, of Vatraball-road, Surrey,
ploasber.-11. Cue. of Lambeth, galley, tisraher-nterchaut.—
W. Parker, of Newark upon-'Treat, Nut:iughsm, wire-
worker.—T. Webb, tit Warwick, barso4lesier.—P. Cope, of
Briditeurtls, Salop, grorer.—J . N. Hitches, of Kiddermin-
ster, Worcester, faetur.—J. Tart tee, f Liverpool, merchant.
—J. Raiford, of Leicester, grocer.—W. Meteoric, of Leeds,
York, pasteboard mairufaciurer.—R. Staldlooton and E. Fal•
dlesson. of Blackburn, Lancaster, gettem-amanufacturers.-
1. Drape, of Whitekaven, Comberiersd, leserance-bruker.—
J. M. deQuiros, of Size.lase, Bueklenbery. Loodua, men.
ehoist.—W. 11. Campbell, of 220.4....avet. Cheaps.d..,
Lou-
doe, merchant.—R. Lloyd, of Lißerp•ss, inerehaut.

PRICE OF STOCKS YESTESDAY.
Bank Stock ..'237 9.34 4 3 per Ct. N. An —lO9
437 I 1081
3 per Ct. Red. 7612 I Bk. L. Ann.. I 9 I 1-16
3 per Ct. Con.. 761 76 I Ex. Bills. V.—. 4 5 pi.
31 per Cent..... 87 861 I Lottery Ticket. 191.15'.
4 per Cent.. 951 96 95f I Cons. for Acc...761 76

Oa Sunday, the 19th Widest, at %loudlaud% the Hum. Mn.
Yvomas. of ■ daughter.
Ou the 19th instant, al the Vicarage, Beakesboarae, 'eat,
the Lady of the Huu. and Rtv. W. Ede., ut a sue.

MARRIAGES.
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On Satu►day, the IStb instant; at Cliekhostell, Brreoertherr.
by the Rev. R. Davies, of Cou►t y Gotten, the Roe. Joh■
Irving, B.A. of Worcester College, Oxford, to Marmots,
youngest daughter of the late (Le. W. Davies, B.D. of the
same College, and Rector of Langone, Breronakire.
At Raiford, its Nottisgbauebire, on t►e Mb inst. by tl •
Rev. Charles Cates, John Yorke, of Be Nall, it, it..
calmly of York, Esq. to Mary, eldest An laltdres
Wright, of Mapperley. .
On Alooday last, at Admired, Survey, Edmund Lamm
Eh+ of Lincoln's las, to Rester, eldest daughter orbiter'.
Smith, Esq. his Illajesty'eallef Justice of the Mauritius.
On Mooday last, at Bath, by the Rev. Mr. Barry, Harry
Scott Gibb, Esq. of lb. royal artillery, te. Ramsay Elat,
daughter of the late Colonel Cooper.

DEATHS.
Oa Saturday last, at Margate, Captain Clotigh, the Mester
of the Commingles at that plate.
lo the wreck of the Karl Mishit packet, off Litrerpeek 06
the 9th Mat. Priscilla, wife of Mr. Willisat rates, of newt-
street, formerly of C'r
animbet7.row, feewiagtoe, aged ea.
Also Elin the eldest daughter of Mrs. Miner, of Nelsoo-
aspire, formerly of Chelsea.
Jobu Addison, Esq. late booker, of Udine', in the 1134
year of his age.

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