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ADMIRALTY PAPERS.

Lord Cocsiarote said, he disclaimed any a►tempt
at eloquence; be came forward iii this busmen, be-
cause it involved abuses not only of the nary, bat
of the country at barge; and would pledge himself,
that if the papers fur which be would move ware
_bitterest forward, he would bring to light such acts of
unparalleled corruption :.s had neve, been witues‘ed
even under the government of the Prince of Peace.
Certain Akers rectived more than would maintain
ooe half the navy, ■nd ta (any times more than
their exertions entitled t:ic-n to. He would expose
the plunder to which Greenwich Hospital was ex-
posed, and the corruption of compromising the
broils of the Ad.iiiralty, where 4,0001. was given
no fo. a compromise of i,0301. and the Admiralty
were aware Id it. Another abuse, respecting
he w iuld bring to public view. He would
she. , that Vir. Greatharn received two-thirds of the
am out praxes under that Court, whale those
who had fought fiercely hi defence of their coun-
try, were denied the trivial reward of their labours
and fatigues. These men should surely come in
for a proper share of die prizes. It was cot neces-
sary that their pay should be raised, as he conceived
that rather an evil than !tut ; but the button,.
they had undergone, and lie dangers thet bad en-
countered, s.,on d be considered and rewarded. He
bad himself 2.5001. to pay upon a I which he
had taken, au I w..ich we- condemned as a droll of
the Admiralty. He inveighed in strong terms
against the system i•f lie-rises, which, he asserted.
were articles of save, as lunch as sny other commer-
cial commodity. lii, Lordship then submitted a
series of caotiour. The first was, " That there
should be l-id before the House Copies of the
Agent's Accounts of th • Proceeds from the Sale of
a long List of Prizes, which were specifically enu-
merated."

Mr. Rosa wished to know whether he meant the
amounts which were delivered into the Court of
Admiralty ?
Sir WILLIAM SCOTT stated, that he had no other
objection to the moti in. than that he di.l not un-
derstand the purpose of it. He defended the Court
of Admiralty from the attack or the Noble Lord.
and pledged himself that the Noble Lord would he
u unfortunate in that attack, as in others which he
had thought proper to smoke.
Mr. Ruse declared Lis willingness to grant or
move for any papers whi..ii :night tend to tiring to
light existing abases in the navy. He had himself
spent drive and nights in the investigation of certain
. tie defied the Noble Lord to point out an
ins•ance in which the King's Proctor charged more
than any other Proctor would have done. There
were 153 cases of abuse by under agents towards
the offiLers of the navy, which he had discolored,
nine of which were en a state of preparation to be
brought to trial. One case was that of an agent in
Portsmouth, who had 6t ,0001. to div•de. and who
charged upoo that sum feeste the amount of 9,4601.;
1.2001. of which was fur postage. There were
other eases in which great sums were kept in the
hands of the agents altogether. He had appointed
• person to inquire into those and similar vases, who
had exerted himself with great effect. But he had
seen the charges of the Noble Lord before; he had
seen them in a pamphlet, the writer of which had
once charged fifty guinea* for drawing up a me-
morial, which the King's Proctor would have done
for five guineas. With respect to the droits of
Admiralty, lie wisSed the Noble Lord would put
his finger upou any particular abuse, instead of
making general charges, lie was sure every obser-
vation of his (Lord Coeirane's) would turn out un-
founded.

MT. CHARLES DU ,I DAS spoke in favour of the
Gentleman appointed by Mr. Roes.

Mr. STSTSIIII entered into a vindication of the
characters attacked by the Noble Lord. tie ob-
jected to the productio r of such a volume of papers,
which would lead to an investigation as laborious as
that of the Walcherm expedition. He did not
think it too much to ask that the Noble Lord
should first inform himself upon the evidence, be.
fore he brought accusations of suck a nature against
characters so high, both fur wisdom and integrity.
He will sure that the generxl tendency of the Noble
Lords' motion must turn out utterly groundless.
Sir CHARLIM Patcs thought that they should
grant the Papers. He diaupproved of confining the
business of the navy to the King's Proctor, and
detailed some instances, in proof of his opinion.

Mr. Ross 'proposed, that the Noble Lord should
more for the mamma of one ship, and not of the
whoie camera
Sir Jean NICHOL defended the present practice.
and sairktbst the emoluments of the King's Pro,.
tor, so far from am wasting bi 30,0001. or 40,0001.
s-year, did not exceed 7,0001. If am• one cols-
Alined of hi. charges, his bill was liable to be
taxed. Ile defended the charge of the .30 per cent.
by the Gentlemen through whose means the yes.
rel. were coudesn•d; and said, that the other 70
went to the captor.. It would be injurious, he said,
to the nary at large, to be permitted tu clime its
own Proctors.

Lord Cousastin, in a spirited reply, persisted in
attaching blame to the Admiralty Court*. His
lemma did not ori4in.ite. as had been insinuated,
from the pamphlet; he had given notice of it last
session. He still believed the King's Proctor's
emoluments extremely high, and thought it a hard-
s+iip that it snould exceed the Speaker's. A ItiagL4

He tamaied his eletelottio the ao per cent. as a
fraud tam p& Gresavoich Ho Altai.
Mr. Rosa expledued.

Capt. llsassruao maintained, that the Officers
of the Navy were willing to du their duty, without
any mercenary comiderstmo.
Lord aside that he never intended ti
insinuate otherwise ; bet he thought that they
laboured ovular insity disadvantages, *inch ought
to be redressed: '

Tll,r CHANCELLOR of the EICURQUER thought
that the willection of oafs or two all tits would be
more convenient. titan to load the table witelthe
accounts of all.
Lord COCHRawn aitteedto the suggestion ; mod
alter ftw words from Mr. VIERHANTLE, the
following motions were put aud corriral :

" That there shall he laid %Aire the House an account
of the proceeds of the sate* of the Two Niger', captured by
thearesed cotter Lord Nelson, end of the Amphiuti."
" Also a copy of the authority lii the Kiugs Proctor,
dated the g.tb of blank, mg.*
Mr. Rosa gave. hseicep that he would more, to-
morrow, fors cep: of the Order of Ike Majesty. in
Council, in the year. 470. a. .
After which. Lard Cocastaimmoveri for a copy
o(His Majesty's warrant, dated the isth of Janu-
ary. 11805, granting the.jiropOrtious of the prize
&Aim Maria. which was agreed to.

BREACH OF PRIVILEGE.
Mr. YORKS complained of a growl breach of
Privilege. by a self-erected society, an out-door
Parliament, called the British Forum. He read a
placard, which stated, that it was etiaaimously de-
termined, last Monday. in that society, that the
enforcement of the Standing Order ought to be re-
probated as an insidious attack upon the liberty of
the press, and a measure calculated to bring them
into disrepute with their constitweuts. He professed
himself* friend to the liberty of the p►css, but not to
its licentiousness. As to the enforcement of the
Standing Order, he was more and more convinced
of the propriety of it every day. He then moved,
" That the paper should lie on the table, and that
the Clerk should read that part of The Bill of
Bights which referred to the freedom of debate."
This being done, he moved, " That .1. Dean, the
printer of the placard, should appear at the Bar
to-morrow ;" which was agreed to.
Mr. RORKEII moved for • helert Committee to inquire
into the high price of Gold Bullion ; the nature of the circa-
lath., medium, sad the coarse of foreign exchange. The
motion was •greed to, and • Committee appotated.
Mr. Pollllollllf gave notice that he would to-morrmr
ulnae fat an account of rll foreign 'cowls trading under
license to Lefties sail Liverpool, i a the month of January

The !Abuse west into • Committee of Supply,, to which
the army C1141113111C1 were teferrect ' • three minions for the
land fumes, and two million.' for the militia, royal carp*,
and miners, wars voted, and the other items postponed till
Friday.

LORD CRATHAM's NARRATIVE.
Lord Poaentreit ri.ovcd the Order of the filly
for the House resolving itself into a Committee on
the Scheldt Expeditsoo. -
Lord Fecesroirn, seeing the small progress
abaat: in this Inquiry, notwithstanding the length
of time it had already occupied the House, sug-
rated that mare hours might be allotted to it,
either by beginning the business at the moment
they met, or, by meeting in the morning. But
there was something of much greater moment which
induced him to rir.e before this question was pet.
A paper had been laid before the House, this day,
which it behoved them most seriously to consider,
whether it ought to have been produced is them or
not, and of wuich they had no right really to know
the existence. It was a narrative of the conduct of the
Expedition under his command, given by Lord
Chatham to the King, without the intervention of
any officer or Minister who could be responsible for
it. What was also extraordinary was, that it had no
bead or title, and it was impossible to ray what it
was. bow they became acquainted with it, or by
what mesas they procured it. How were they then
to know that it was a true copy of the paper called
for? and if it was not, who was answerable for the
blame ? It bed appeared in the public papers,
months ago, that Lord Chathiun was to present
his narrative at the levee. This narrative purported
to be written in October, yet it was not so prevented
till the 14th Feb. ; on the lith of which month, a
private mend of the Noble Earl, had asked Mi-
nisters if they intended to produce it? and on the'sr
answering in Cie negative, that Houourable Mem-
ber had given notice, and moved for its production
on the tritti. ( Hear !) %Vas it put, as it seemed •
to be, into existence, for this very purpose of be-
ing produced? ( Hear I . hear !) It was for their se-
rious consideration bow they cause to receive it.
Lord Chatham. not as a Peer, a Privy Courieillev,
or a Cabinet Minister, but as the Commander-in-
Chief of the Expedition, hart laid it before the
King, without the intervention of any responsible
Mini•ter or Officer of State. What then becauie.of
the responsibility ? ( Hear !) Besides, lord Chat-
ham was directed, His Majestys's sign mainuli
to correspond throul the medium of the Secretary
of State. The N• e Lord related the case, again
t?
expressed his desire to know from what office the
paler was produced, or whether taken from His
Majesty's private desk ? But, as it ought. perhaps,
explain itself, he desired that it might he reed.
On the Clerk's proceeding to read the document,
Mr. Cannier. rose lot suggest to the House, that
no light, as to the matter of form, whether the pa-
per was eonstitotionally come by or not, could. pro-
sibly be derived from reading it. On the fare of
it, it appeared to be gives to His Majesty, Mid our
to any Miiiirter; and he agreed with the Noble
Lord, that it was for their most serious considera-
tion, whether it ought to be seen or not.. Every
order made by the Hour 'suit be addressed to
some responsible Olicer, and the most serious CCM.
sequences would result, were the Papers of the
Sovereign to he produced, without that cosistitu-
ton All fellikaalaiatity.-ssiffear!, He suggested
this before reading the paper. to put the house on
its guard against the unpleasant eircusastaneee
which might arise from raising it. contents with the
present important discussion. The mode of re-
medy was easy. It might be withdrawn. as it was
not the narrative of a Cabinet Minister, or Privy
Councillor. but of the Commander-in-Chief; ern-
played under the Secretary. of State, as much as it
he held none of these char:eters.

CRAIICELLOR 4 the Excnitnuan thought
this discussion rather late: as. if the propri,-ty of
profits.. ing the paper hod heel' doubted, it ought to
have beat so stated, when the Hon. Member (Gen.

Loftus) moved for it, and accurately described
*bat it was. At that time, it did not occur to him,
„or any Gentleman hi the House. to offer our ob•
**lion : and when the Flouee resolved to call fur
the paper, it only became his duty to take His
liinpisty's pleasure ou the subject. On doing this,
he found that His Majesty- had depueited it adli
his Secretary of State, Lord' Liverpool; from whom
he obtained the copy, ethie.4l he had presented to
the House, and for which he was responsible. Ile
• could not conceive eny Parliamentary objection to
1. in' being read ; hut, if there were any, they were
more likely to be solved in any other way, ilian
from the contents of the pager.
Mr. CANN two.statted (iii jortifyim: himself from
inattrioion whew the paper was nai red for) that be.
fore he quitted His Majesty's sera ion, it was under-
.tem) that Lord Chatham sem to 'se tolled on for a
„putative of the Expedition ; and when the motion
„Ban wade, he naturally concluded it was for that
its:naive. But row bees., that this was leresetited
so late as the 14th Felerearv, .he must pre.suene it
was of quite adi Iferent description.—f Hear/ hear 11
General Lorrua asid. Mb" House had not ni•en
taken by sus prise in this ellallter; of which a regular
notice had been given. , i ,
The narrative was this reed by the Clerk. It
was of considerable length, mainly tending to ex-
culpate Lord Chatham (the writer) from all blame
in the failure of the Expedition. and Imputing that
disaster almost eutirely to Sir IL Strachan's not
haviog brought the fleet into the West Seelieldt 111
time to promote the ulterior operatioos against
Antwerp.
herd Fe (ASTONS said, his objections were rather
increased than done away, by the reading of this
paper. It win an sprat from the Commander-in-
Chief ter His Majesty s judgment, without any con.
stituti )))) af reepousibility—f Hear /I—lie sever met
with any thing that called so loudly for the rep, e-
htosion of the House, and how to get rid of this
dangerous and alarming precedent he knew Dot.
He was still at a loss to conceive why, and how, it
was produced; but sorry he was, from the mis-
chievous cooerepiences likely to reeitilt from it, that
ever it had bees called fur by any member, produced
by His Majesty's Ministers, or read in that (louse.
Mr. You' thought the proper time for discuss-
iug thin point would have been, on the motion for
referring the paper to the Committee. The papa.
rim produced in consequence of au Address in His
~-Majesty from the House, and he mold •ee no ill
consequence in its being read. and siothisg ueecon-
stitutional in ita production. The motet's, was re-
gularly made and thr paper was not laid on their
*able in an immure. way by Ministers. From his
' habits and education, he' trusted he understood
1 thetConstituuun—i'Leugiter, ,pad tries of Hear I
Attept).-He repeated his assertion; he hoped I.
emessimed the Constitution as well as the Gentle.
nom opposite ; but if thaw cries proceeded from
any insinuatioo of 'another toed, there was no ex-
pression of Hors and disdain so strong, that he
would not apply it to them !—(Hear ! hear !,)
Mr. Tteente spoke against the production of
the paper, as unconstitutional sod unjust to the
Navy. He concluded by threatening Ministers
with impeachment.
The Caawcattoe of the Eitcsesome would be
able to understand any motion of that kind better
when it was made. He ridiculed the chimera of
ill-consequenees and mischief that had been raised
is the minds of the Gentlemen opposite. from the
mode in which the paper in question hail been ob.
tinned. There was no fault in it ; and there was a
responsibility for every part of it. Lord Chatham
was responsible for its tenor, and where was the
constitution which prevented any man from adders.
sing His Majesty. (Lord FOLK/TONY said, Me/
emild not get to His Majesty). If there was any thing
criminal in the paper, the precentor was responsible.
Is the present case, it had been called for by a
Member of the Houle, and the }fosse had agreed
to the motion (believing it to have been presented
by the Secretary of State, was said acmes the table).
It was his duty, as producing it to the House, to to
responsible that it was a true copy of the paper dr-
, livered by His Majesty to Lord Liverpool. Could
soy Gentleman say, there was any thing wrong tri
Lewd Liverpool's receiving it from H. Majesty.
I.There was, then, no difficulty in finding where the
• responsibility lay. As for the threats and dean.
taxation about impeachment. he did net thiuk the
Mews of the Right Hon. Cientleman (Mr. Tierney)
wenlel he et all forwarded, either in the House or
out of it. by all he could urge on this point.
Mr. Poesionnv could not suppose • measure
I '
1 more unconstitutional.--(A laugh frees tie I ree-
-1 Ivry Beach.) lie was not surprised at the lintel
from the other side. for whenever the coustitu-
' tinn was named. he knew it was more a subject
for their ridicule than for their apptomoiote.—
To afford them. however, an opportunity for the
display of their wit, of which they were an sparing
on other occasimis. be would repeat his assertion.
that nothing could he more unconstitutional than
the conduct of Lord Chatham getting into His
Majesty's closet, and secretly, endeared the know-
ledge of the Administration. of which be wiei a
part, laying such a pettier, as that they had heard
reed, before him. What was the meeniag of
• responsible Miuister. but that he shoot,* be
famed between Ilia Majesty and the Parliament,
, which could not proceed where the King's person
ens interested ?-(Hew/., heat!)—nose Chathadi,
as the Commander-in-Chief, w.. not in a respones-
ble situation for writing this paper, a Mete went to
throw the blame off himself and strongly upon S r
.IL. Strachan. If lie had done what the ecieststie-
tion required, if be had pros, nted it to the Secretory
of State. or the Comilauder-in-Chief, they would
have read it, communicated it to Sir Richard
Strachan, and deliberated upon its contents, *he'
thee it ought or ought not to be presented to He.
Majesty. They must have referred •t 4. the
First L `,eye
of the Admiralty. who old 'neye
honed it necessary. thereupon, to ' iore ei
the coodniet of tier Richard Ste ii. '. to
Cabinet must have seen whether it Ikt, proper end
decorous to be laid before 144 Majesty. If, ill, n,
the present case was to serer es a pretedeiit, every
man might do what Lord Chaihnux bed done, and
there eta. an end Of the reamensindity of Nlinieters
in Hie Mejeety'e Ceencile--(Hee, ! be r ' .
—t le
•uhruitted it to the wnid•iin of the n,,,,eic • it ~ey
Asper of this kiwi flaunt to go to the L ..?. t• -
, thrmigh the coestilutional /wean ? l', t• ..• l. ii-e -
tattoo, the King %Quid .401 :,...! a 1

• •

but in the presence of his Secretary for Foreign
Affairs; sod he appealed to the Right Hon. Geut.
(Mr. Cogaing) if au interview of that description
had hewn odvised, while he held the office, whether
he would not have resigned ? It was raid His Ma.
je.ty had delivered the narrative to Lord Liverpool.
He woeld presume that he had read and formed
an ipitiven on it. His Cabinet might held an °pl-
uton directly the reverse, either that the army or
was to blame. What then would be the con-
aciienee, if the Cabinet had to advnar their Sion/
reign directly against that opinion they knew he
had formed ? What become of that respect to Ihe
Miedy ; that decency and attention prescribed by
tile Constitution ? Order of the Hour woos
also urged. Hut it did not follow that they, when
they made that (leder. understo id that the piper was
prr,enied ui •uy other Mut the ordinary way, by
the SeeretArf of Stale, or the
At any rate. it was not fair to hind te lions:: down
to what, An consideration, they fourel to be preg-
iisiit with mischief. Ou Gioia important points,
they rescioded their milemo when they saw that
evil coisorquenets would resift trent them, not at
ririt co deoinlat-d. lie-had no resolidinii ready to
submit, hut hutohly referred to the Speaker to %ay.
tier this matter was conlbristable to the Con-
sit .1 uttion and usages of Parliament.
- Secretary coot did not think the metier
of auflicietit importance, to call on the for
s ii.etiten, which only areisitil to he the forlorn
bop* of Gentlemen, wbo found their arguit ruts
could ism bear then ~at in whet they wished. It.
wise impumable to ground a •1941 - colistiNtiattirl
argument on their tiro of the car; cud if state-
ment, nursing the Nary were (entwined iu the' nar-
rative, the Navy might ga.n.ay it.
rhe-CISASCELLOR of the Itexuellillss explained.
He was responsible, that thi. was the pipir called
for by the Heise.
Ma. Whitbread and Lord Cochrane role at the
Signe time.
Mr. IVtiteaasto was anxious to speak before
the Noble Lord, whose feelings.• us a naval man,
must be much agitated by what they had heard. He
understood from • Hight Hon. Gent. (Mr.Cansing)
that 64601mi1e in His Majesty's service, hod suggest.
ed a call on Lord Chatham, for a rrrrr ive of- the
Expedition. Tnis would have been the pro-
per course ; hut it ,14111 evident the idea had
Dot heen persevered in. Upon the fare of the
paper, there wadi not only a condeminditta of
1111 listen, but of the Noble Lord himself. Now,
Ilea the communicatiou ofe the Noble Lord known,

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or unknown. to Monstees ? It must have been nu.
kasson.• it am written in October, and presented
in t'ebroary; between which dates, an Address had
been presented to His Majesty, from the City of
Louden, to which His Majesty was advised to an-
rioe r. Viet he j 'Weed uo inquiry neeemary —I Hear!)
—Lard Cmitha..l could not have been consulted
iiii a Minister opine . this answer, for he must
have said. that inquiry into the naval pert of the
Ealenlitino, at lea-t, was isecessarve-(Hear !)
I Low then did lee vine' as tole of H a Majes'y's re.
spoissible adessers ? If Ministers dial know of tins
owe tuttiwcatiott,then they rie.erved impeachment for
advioug gee 4 an miaow to the metropolis of the
t iiip•r-.--..(Hear ' hear .9—lt was said the navy
might gate' ay any accuse:ion against them. How
rood ttpey goi.loy this private pnisoo secretly iti-
etil.ed into the eat of their Royal Master I—( Hear!
hear If— [he paper was moved Lc by a private
flie,nl of Lord Chatham. and it did seem as if it
sr, f..rined for the purpose to which it was ape
y,p.d. of tbrosring blatue from Lord Clutilismupou
Si, Italian& Sirachau and the navy. A Right
11. ..... israide Gentleman raid every man might
h ,re access to His Majesty ; why. was not the
city of Loudon refused —I Hear! hear!(--Lord
Chatham, as a fasonritc, might do what others
could not, and ftiliin,ters might try to persuade
them of their responsiliiiity, when they knew that
the very way in which they got into power was by
their irresponsibility. Did, he would say again,
Ministers know of this paper or taut? Did they
know of this uuderhaud accusation of Sir
Richard Strachan, who was called as a wit..
near before them. without knowing that • paper,
contaiiiiog insinuatiousagaiust hisn.was lying in the
Riag's closet ?—(Hear.' hear.')—He was must i
ready to defer to tier decision of the Speaker, but•l
a question like this ought to be derided by the i
House itself. Tne Right Hon. Gentlemen Mr. 1
Perceval) spoke lightly of impeachment; but if the.
House did tot impeach him, then all their rightoi
and privileges were, indeed, gone. The Right
Hon. GenUemais accused them of envying hi.
place. POI all the gold .1
•• That he... sinews, tatosikt sad told.
" Coe& ever earn,"
he would not twin his situation. They did. indeed,
wish to turn him out, for the good, for the salvation
of the country ; hut, even oat of office, he trusted,
punishment would follow him. The way in which',
the lispEr came before the King, was onconstitu. '
bona'. and Ministers were not responsible, as they 1
/night to be.
Mr. Rrnaa spoke in explanation.
Mr. CA% 41114 a. in explanation. said. that woo"
he was iii office, he miderstoot a narrative was to
be delivered to His Mainity, hut that it was to
comprehend both the military and navy ; he assured
the House it was not his suggestion.
Sir Rise Patinae said. that some persons might
not concetve that the narrative went to criminate
the Hon. Arbuiral, Sir Richard Strachan ; but let
their ideas be whet they might, he assured them
th it neither he (fir Home Popham) nor any oilier
Officer in His Majesty's nave. would he setisned
without a full iarestirairia. The narrative charg.d
th.ut a . hangs had taken place in the maritime pro-
e.tedings. There was trot an elierstion mole with-
situ the approve; of Lord Chatham. and mane of
th-m is specie! desire; and diirii.g the F.spe.
dition greatest cordiality substated between the
two for
3r a.
..,
!V . H. was( observed, that it could ant he
hoc dusiiiii for a Minister to deliver a pap, r
to I)fts Miro or for • Peeve& the kingdom to go
inter he Royal Lord Chatham was the only
person reepo-n e. and he retold not she • .k from
that. oath, Honor weal.' oink. Riot •o.
Nr. WRes as ,wild wad agree in the pronrtple laid
dews UT the Radii Nos.Gentlensaa who last spoke as to the
stsgressihtlity of Lard Chatham If u. Pease tboacht pro
owls hogwash the noble Lora, what e• id, het of Ito sorra.
We imam they produce to the Heuer •-1 Inas ? The
mow of Lord Bristol, loud that of the hewer
(ad were
11■61:11/ ta Feist : there the Ortfacalts was Goma were

the House, hating those 'weeniest' Were their eyes,
gong to put themselves to the mats sititation, The
precedent le itself was dangerous, foe it was leyiug down
one fee all General Office,s The eerciontances is them
genes were ludicrous. Here wm e Monster, sent by the
King's Ministers, as Coniumanier-is.Clisef of the greatest
Espeditino iver sent out of the country, neon% up
a correspondence with the Kist., unksowis to his Mi-
litary. It was a happy widest, that the narrative had been
disowervd, and that by the hived of L,w4 Chatham, tient-
ral lbw ! hew .9.—As 4 Minister, he did out dusht
his right of bowling as easy access to the Royal ear, and gar.
irg advice as to his department; hut here it was dallerent ;
fur, m Commander-is Chief, he had no such right; but,
(oaten, It all coonitutiousl precedent, he delivered the aar-
native to His Majesty, asalooel y hiding it from the Sonetary of
State. After using thereon just and complimentary epithets,
on the eacellent, npright, and impartt.il eundect of the
'bpcaker, he concluded by saying, that there use er was an
o casino is which the House stood so marls in cant of hie
assistance, and called upon him to gine Ins opinion:
Mr II iIATIIU•fT cm ad 011111i110, lOU constitstimial
ground,' that the narrative should be pal out of sight, or
'• that it should lie dormant ea the twilit. 3 and when Lord
Chstlaaracaese as a titres* before the rionsinittee, lei it he
peals Ins hand, and if hr innitified it, the Committee could
art spots it.
Geo. Lonna rose merely fur the purpose of saying. that
•,there sever had been a misunderstanding between the
kr, wild naval C01•1114.11ler• en the or-cosies, and lord Chat-
inse had always expressed himself to that effect. ( Hear !
bent) The sarrateve thru under cousideratio• was caused
ha be presented tie His Majesty, we account of the letter
'mitten by Mr R. Strachaw
Sit lon• Cleo was sorry that the obaereaticioa which he
had heard that night, had been made use of, es they might
tend to juju...! the it putative of officers, who were liable to be
brought to c ort.maitial
Mr. C. luit Syrtis s said, as the paper was before then,. it
was expedient abet they should take it into consideratimi ;
hist the rummer it came before them, west., be deplored, and
be should for ever lausent that it *as called for.

Afire 10111 i Coils uf rkur Choir!
The Sr 1:• Kit row, mid said. he trusted the HOW would
riot tit sorprised at his delay In giving his upluiou ; as to his
right, it could ant be doubted. He kept back with the in.
teetimi giviog the best opiame hie judgment and ability
would allow. *be motion of the Hun. Member, Omieral
Loftus, eat correct. It had been the custom of that Howse
to believe the averment of any Honoree/de Member.
There were precedents in the )ear 177 t,. The House
thought proper to call fur a Memorial delivered I. His
Shively, is his private deed, by as. Imperial Resident. In
that, as in the present use, Hot Maiesty had graciously mem
Jeereoded to seed, by the proper channel, use of his Pries
eeetwil, the paper asked for, to which the House was enti-
tled to gum full credit. Oa hie first opening the owes-
toes befiere them, he fogad the new of Chatham ; yet he
felt doebthil at first whether it might to be received and se.
kimmiedged by that House—its sot bearing the sigiseture of
any of Hui Maiesty's Secretariat; but eensideriag whose
it wee prerated, sad kuowitig that he was emmentable to that
Hoe. Howse for it. aetlieetiaty, he waved his doubts until ho
eat fur some papers, whelk; on perusing, be found that Lard
Piortb had promoted semaW pagers similar, sod that he was
considered priesofeeis ameentehie, which, in his *ream, left
the Hoot. at hall liberty to docent the wit. of the earn.
ire ; and cumtlistied by win, the Deem would beer is
their reevileetain that be did mg pratemit to touch es the
comegismices or the mari • of it.
Mr. Pltattlf•L Own eared, "That it should be referred
to the Committee of the whole Howse aim the Espedusoa to
the Scheldt," which was emeedte.
Oa the Order of the Day being reed, for the House going
into • Cemmittle, on the Espeditsue to the Scheldt, Mr.
Teens mend the Ststedtwg Order, and streagers were of
course excluded, at belt peat twelve o'clock.