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could the Melt Rassurable Gent Mutt *entail's ' Lord BINNING oprosed the infante, becus
that Scosistud would sot be attacked t and if it was, k slid not call en al. the people. equalli„ ; and h:
why visit to he *aided only by Ensii.b Aim spas hippy, he said, tasses vetoed Getitieman (the
and toglith..espsey. trithotat any ~peset to. dui Lord Advocate t,t Net tlax.dir in his place, as e
Port of hatassa *surlier objection was, that might be able to throw nee light on the suljeni
theVoluotierspdly believe the Bill to be hostile and explain to the Hcuse v. by this Bill shoult:
th their system.- which would be greatly %lured by be trended to Scotla”4l. lie was aware that it
such belief, whether it was well founded or nor, he might t take elect in some parts of that euu„,,,
d'satifeterboved as an amendment, "that insteadaccountnot
a the thin pupul.lti„n ; but the sant;
SOW, then amendments be read a second time argument might be nsod with regard so Eng'," d.
this day three months.' When the ballet for the Whir was Era introtlaud
Mr. BYRE obje&ed to the B;11, because he into tcotland, he knew it was not liked by sczto
thought compulsion should never take place tiil the people, and that some disaffec:iun had
the eery last resort she thought it would tan foiled itslf ; but th at had die.l 'Away, and the tam
sod to the Volunteer System, which had notpa only sure had e
succeeded ; so th.tt there douht
laved the gountry, but also saved their own pax- that this would finally succeed there, even chose,
ticolar chitties. He coesidered the ELI as a sat- at first it might be eishked.
seam na the Volunteers,: for it reckoned as nothing Tle LORD ADVOCATE of SCOTLAND
900,000 of them, while it gave only tioo,ooo in tail, he did imamd to have volunteered, even if Et
their qua. ' ' N' ble Relation had not called on him, to intreat his
Sir. R. WIILI spoke in favour ot the Ri Don. Ftiei.d to extetid this measure, in watt
-1, , - Ild•Isr

,LIAMS
Will, ova though* •Ministeri deserved gi:eat credit
fob saving the country neer five millions of expenee
interred by .the. Vcdirmeers. He maintAinicf, that
the Dili _di4 not destroy site Volunteer System, but
only bravest it to what it was originally prepoied
jo be; for they were •miginall to clothe them-
„wives, and the allowances which had crept in on
•that • account, amou:ded to an enormous SUM
He thought the present Miniver; w:re aiting for
.the good o( the country its bringing:forward this
Ineasuresi:and it should, thereliore, Lave his cotclial
support. :._ • .
Mr. FONALANVE supported. the Dill, and
insisted that it breiVskegicnisrarrement to, tie Vo-
Innseartlyatem s for grebe ifplonterts .kcepiryg as
they are. they will 1w freed train. the operati&rof
the fhtl, rollick at she same tiM6; secures tirv-aids'
the -difeni*of the tOdnity 100,000 men; which l's
a great Patti:if' physical !sneer in addition to the
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shape,. to Scotiard. He WOUI Jave done this, he.
cause he thought it was a beneficial measure ; bat he
thought it a Lctle uncommon, that his Noble Friend
-should leave made such a proposition, when the
gentlemen with whom he :idled, had such an ca.
favoureble %MIAs of the Bill. It was s. ii by iome
of them. that this Bill would break faith with the
Volunteers, and the :rube Lord wished that that
fink:Should bri:ken ha Scotland; it was Riau:Rid,
tliatis,would put, doa nt he Volunteer System ; " Ala
it down also in S (Aland," stains Noble l'riend,and
this he. ceinceived t'-91 tie on neuttieconsistent hiis
Ni hie Reletion f ad al o stated, that the idilitia Aft
was the cause o' v beLion is Scotland, and that chi
b .d been its tiga e i by certaietdisaffeded remiss;
!e wee aware ih t he vas COT; ilerveltire of these
iiaffeded
.per o s, and, be acknoirleillged that if
e;',l- he was dai,lfelded, be vas so still;, but he
condo assure-his Noble Friend, t:-.at the .-miy ream
ahy the reek u, Scotland did nit hke the Minna
Beli was, beca.•-• tbev did not understand it; and
when the disaf eke x persons, as they a-ere called, aid
he, imams/A t' t rsit, reettlhe trvuble of eaplaining
the nate,* of the ME it mute o lnner disliked by
'the p‘ople The macniiiery of ibis Iliad, he ass
aware, Would' not apply to Scotland ; hut if the
Gentlemen dashed it,
_he would end. flake, in ti,e
cause of fun7-eitehe hoolhi, •o draw out a bill
adapted to it in every particular ; anethit he would
Jo, *tune he loved his et untry, and was con-
iiCadthatlt.woal4 be 9f nice to it,. The Hoe.
Gehtlernettihen albertes the Scoichainoteert,
on whom be pronounced an eelotiom be
could not see how it could be considered, that faith
.gild be broken with them, by the introduction of
measure sianier,to the present, a, he had never
.iarard of sails a thin as a stsoisopaly iu the defence
* of a count east saw no ream* whs ie should
be expected.
Lord lIIN&ING,t malted.
Mr. CANNINCI eiangrstelaidd the Noble Lord
%Ohs Lead Advocate) ea the eistiedtersi.y which had
hop afforded him of contributes. as much as in
hies lab to extend the boon ot this Bill to Scots
latrodwillogill-wfot help calling upon the House
ertraordiatry systsat of earning on
flaeseeise Goveriement, Windt they had sow by
welders( dtecovered ; as it Atipeated that the Lord
Adetscate of Scotland bad ant even bees coneelud
with. as to the paUcticabili:y of epitendong this VA-
sure to that tart of the united kingdoin (th.e!
he-r .°) ; Vitt lad just declarer', that lie multi, in
eipi-and.terty hews, frame the bill so as to be ap-
plicable to thatpht pose ; Whilst he Right Hoc. GO.
tlemani (Mr. Wilidhart) with a, th hoes' d con-
centration M. had been. (au- m aths in bring-
ing it teefore he Hove-, w en t was pressel
by ' Honourahlk Ceutien.en to is ..,d it to
Scotland, had pleaded, that it W A' ton kite t , do
.that, wh ch the .liibriur of an ;ado iJual was tin;
declared to be e impereat to. in so snort a space ot
time (firer How The Noble Lord, rejecting
all shallow pietensiass of want of tinw, halt status,
that it would be re-h-r a be. eft than a burthen ta
3€otlind I and he (Mr. Canning), thesafore, hoped,
Gentlemen would not be to-iitorrow in the Home,
without a bill .or extending the trai&ng to that
part of the coon ry. I he Hon. Member their pro-
c clad to sratestme cf the objections he entertained
to ibbe principle i,f the Bill, perticolarly u it west
to violate the faith of Parini :neat, pledged to the
public, on th-iecoinrituting compulsory traie'rg for
voluntary munknent, and as affecting the P.-re-
galee of the Crown. It the object of the meaa
sure was to diffuse amongst the youth of the COW"
try the practice of arms, he dsoetht the es-
emption from •its operation, allowed foe so small
a sum as 51. was a radical absurdity. The change
of the Volunteers had been raid to be for the
purpose of having an officered, and a disposable
force; but he would give the Lord Advocate all the
time he had required for framing a lid', to devils,
if he could, a description of farce that would be
less efficient, eenneded, and applicable to the per-
p 'se cf regular service, than the 200,000 men, who
were to be drawn out in splendd array under a
few constables and drill-setkants —(.l laugh!)—He
then adverted to the state of utwesuoiervy whhh the
Volunteers were held in. as to the carded ultimately
intended to be pursued towardsthitas..hy Govern'
meat s and concluded by observing, .tliet- this Bill
went to discredit a force upon wf ich-we could rely,
and so substitute the etude produce a au eel st'''
meat ; and that it was as much inferior to the 13.11
it went to supersede, as the mind of Mr. Pitt W Ab
superior to that which 'aduated the present system
of measures.
The LORD ADVOCATE and Mr.CANNING
explained.
Mr. WINDHAhI said, his Noble Friend (the lord
Advocate) had only observed, that this Bell
easily be made applicable to Scotland. However
desirable it might be in a future Session to emend it,
he still thought that it would be better for a season.
to confine it to England only ; ant because it was A
Bill dangerous to be tried in all place. but upon the
plain maxim. that, as by experience the i separa4le
imperfeelions of a new measure might be deteael
and remedied, it would be used on an extend:4
scale, to m're advantage when amended, as ttiat
experience should sugges..-1 he itir,b; H,.n. Geo-
Semen said, so litt'e Ague:eat had bees aslv.inced
by these who opposed the Bill, and :hat ot a mature
contradaltor 7, that the one-half was an atit•dote to
the whet-, that he did rot feel himself warranted in
taking up Cartime of the House, to isP.l to L4‘114

Mr. BA STAW: sess C BM. Ma
ground that thinhis f was sie Any
her of men being. weifs#4ll4er • because
man, by fining, could aeon Wei inlaid and
eerily Wiree4 every man that.madd pay.'would
pay. and it would net thimble belseicient. There
was no possibility of eleim**ll4l44=6. or
even goessing at isiand he weatireed. that
the Km. Barooet (Sir lt. shoutd say it
would be a mobs' m die 3y. Thu% Wm no
mode of waiving die niirs;Bat thiConstabisi and
;Serjearst, and many men rather Pay the fine
for aomettsadiusee, than encesursertlik usentinizing
eye of the Constable, with a musket talliasiimddet,'
which was certainly no reconsomdmior to the
; in short, he thought it octet airmen' pm:-
deal& than the Parish $ and would therefore-
for the amendment.
General LOFTUS said, he hod beg thought
nomething more efils eeeseepy. than we* we bow
.poesess.. to make us snare at sand lo hinder.
10.1emithialsie glerand. f.The meat if oar coast
was imhits to meet suds a omen as ibis 'magi
Wnei were oar gray &Mils, *the aumbiel is
et he enitiont ao defend tbst Whole' coed.
We have eon` the eausmemli bi dse e,as ad; he.
hoped, we slempaberei'imit owe. night of
eterekend sileasews lean es in a Situation.
ee Wee Pea . Miser, did out en.
deems* to put the intoa seta of security,
br tome such 'measure es t • they would be highly
"Ipeisle ; and if any /salt was to be found with
was in not going far enough._ •
to the first;
ora•Olz.imomui

k eine hiferleTeli.7tirei.rerits opinirn,
Weenie the Velma& 'were a *tree ,force
lejorieisse be it.-would stead*, testi to hi
the pee*, Wilkens &limbs from it imitable
Visiteget.
allen *pied est the Bill was a litretik
Or dzil:4 was a masers of severity. h
Ms Hon. Tris Md. (Mr. Windham
was pally right ilk midetiouring to form
foe* *Web shoal/ hitt permanent defence
than rely as die Volsessers„ on whose cont.
ao depstulksee could, with eertaiumbe DI
He should therefore woe against the an sad taint.
Mr. apaput *she coosiatshie kelps Agri
the sill.
Mr. C. wyNNE bought the best way would be
lo let the Hod, Csatiensen answer each other. Some
of them obleitt4 to the Bill, because it destroyed
the system of equality Which 'sided among the
Volunteers, while others objeAed 'Jo ,it, bemuse at
introduced equality. With respleh tee putting the
Volunteers en the August allowance, Ise certainly
approved it highly, as he thoight' it would be the ,
greatest injustice, that oue.*dy of men should, re.
wire SS days pay, whet another would receive
-only 116. It had been sal& .by some, 64 this
measure would only tend to increabe the
Volunteers and, by others, that there would rim be
room for so great an aitgmentatiee. ho
thought, were reasons which might be allow-
ed to pair off together ; but he mai set help
observing, that there sequl4. be one advantage
ht It, 'namely, tfarthr country -*bed" have'
the service of so many men fur nothing. The
Honourable Gentleman then adverted to nutty of
um arguments which had been used, and nincluded
by saying. that his chief reason for approving of
the maws was not the immediate advantage that
would he derived Irma it, though he did not wish
to undervalue the services of 200,000 men, trained
for 2 days, bat because he thought that it would
infuse a military spirit tato the country, which would
render it invulnerable:
Sir R. LAWLEY thought that this measure
placed the Volunteer* on a permanent footing, and
he hat, he said, two clauses to propose to regulate
their discipline, but he did not know whether or
not this was the proper time.
'the SPEAKER said, it was not regular in this;
stage.
Viscount KIRKWALL considered that the 'pi._
rat of the Volunteers was damped by the statements
which the Right Hon. Gentleman, who brought in
this Sill, had made, when at the other side of the
House. In proof of this, be slanged, that a corps
which be commanded, Ming twelve months ago
460 stong. according to the hut returns, mustered
only 80.
Lord DE BLAQUIERE thought, that • more
iriefficient and inoperative measure never could
have bun proposed.