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oe persons hid made oath of their belief that the
ineettig had an illegal objet!.. A Rev. Clergyman
roo. who appeared to have been extremely anxious
ft sct opinion, WAS conopicnous in hi. con-
duct. If he had, as he might,' h.-en at mind.
I'll of the good of thcie prior peopiee' Pools, he
nould have been more careful of their bodies.—
The Reverend Gentleman might have read the.
Riot•Aa. as was said, but be
iu a corcer,.justread of going among, the crowd,
and endeavoured to have reudevert himself or :null.
ii;e as passable. But lie (Mr. B.) had concurrent
tesiiniony to induct him to think it was riot read.
in. it read, not in the manner required sty law.
Ile bail no great frith in th 4 preoent.Niniaters--t hey
cominenced their career by an attack an the King's
prerog itive-terrestricting Ihe Regent, watt they fel.
f,‘st,l it iiiihps might be ex,ected. by an attack
nii tne i,beirfes of the peOulebt,iii whose behalf the
prerogative was to lie constitutionalla tier.
coed. Ile would give his cordial support to the

oriouti motion.
;11r. WF.TnEItePOON explained.

Mr, LEDGES. praised the manner in which the
question had been. introduced to the meeting, and
denied the law to lw established writ was laid clown
in Ile Courier. Ile raid, that the Bill of Rights
virtuellv repealed the tyrannical acts of the Stuarts,
and he then proceeded to condemn the illegal con-
duct of the Magistrates and yeomanry at Blanches-
ter, respecting which the Royal ear had been so
much abused. Were it nut fur his Royal High-
new's approval of the transaction, he believed ant
a man in the country would have been found to
rise on in its 'Wolfe. Ile was not one of thme who,
like Mr. Wilberforce, could think the same act po-
Nically right iii morally wrong. Mr. Wilberforce
had said on the Indemnity Bill. that though it was
morally wrong. religiously wrong, and politically
wrung, yet as it was the act of Ministers, supported
be Parliament, he should not oppose it. He trust-
ed the inhabitants of this Ward would nut follow
Mr. Wilherforce's example, hut censure acts that
deserved censure, no matter by whom they were
supported. He disapproved. as much as any Mali,
of the general proceedings'of Mr. Hunt, to whom
and his followers he would say, itt the words of a
good old loyal song -••
• Coolrused their polities, •
O Frustrate their knavish tricks,"
And to the Prince Regent he would say.--

May he defend our laws,
" And ever give as cane
" To sing God lava t►e King "

(Loa laughter arrd applause—a cry fellawed of
" Will non sing it?"—" Yes," replied (he worthy
Gentleman, " oiler dinner.")
Mr. SHARPE said, that the facts on which the
condemnation of the Magistrates was supported
were wilfully distorted or starred over. In the first
place, it was asserted, that the constables had
not been opposed ; in the next it was stated,
that the yeoinsury wantonly cut end hacked,
without distinction of age or sex, all about
them. Ile asserted that the real facts would
snake out quite a different case. lu the first
place. the people by the word of command
from the hustings, locked their arms together and
retired a few paces front the hustings, and were or-
dered, if any persons opposed them, to knock them
down and keep them down. l'wice the constables
endeavoured to execute their wa•rant, and were as
often unable to penetrate through the multitude,
whose locked arms interposed, and successfully
prevented them. The Riot Act had been twice
read, and after the second reading, the yeo-
manry edvanct d to make way for the constables
to discharge their duty. They did so without out-
ting at any body, and it was after they had suc-
ceeded in arresting three on the hustings, and after
they were ',mailed by showers of brickbats, by which
two Gentlemen were thrown, severely wounded,
from their horses, that they did what all men un•
der the same circumstances would have done, oppose
force to force, and act on the principle of self-
defence against a brutal attack. Of the mischief
that had been done, a great portion must have been
done by the leth hussars, of whom not one word
had as yet been said—indeed the mob had given out
that they would not say a word against the hussars
—that they would set it all down against the yeo-
manry—for then they would have the hussars with
theta.—(Hear.)—lt was most unjust to music,
thst the Magistrates were guilty of such outrage,
in the absence of any thing but loose insinuation.
Ile would not, therefore, consent to the original
'notion, aguinst which he should, if atone, hold
up his hand. The people came into Manchester
at 11 o'clock, on the morning of the 16th August,
hi attend the meeting, iu complete military order
—they matched in regular divisions, some of them
from a distaece of many miles, and kept up the
regular order of a military hods, until they centered
iu one point at St. Peter's-field. It was said,
that the Riot Act had not been read, for that
thousands haul tint heard it ; this reminded him of
the story of the Irishman, who, when a case of
aisault was clearly proved against him by two wit-
msses who saw the transaction, said lie would bring
fifty to prove they hod not seen it.—(Lawetter.)—
It was on oath before the Magistrates of Manchester.
that many of the people, as they were advancing
to the town, declared to their friends that they
would return laden with the property of the town.
Ile had had this from eye-witnesses. The worthy
lentlemaii concluded, by an earnest appeal to the
Meeting to adopt the amendment. instead of the
original motion, which prejudged the whose quell.
tiuns.—(Hear.)
Mr. ximsots explained,

mob and the milt try at complete issue. He IM
not likely to be one of those who would say mot
thing 'prejudicial to the labouring classes. He Mad
Porting from the people, and of k•-ouree felt for, and
commiserated their situation; but so heated were
t heir minds, that for *week or fortnight after his ar-
rival he could not rely upon the accuracy of tiny of
the numerous statements that had been made to 11ati.
The people, as hill been stated by Mr. Sharpe, haul
marched into that meeting by divisions, iu regular
military order. each led by a sort of permit who
acted as a.r.nnimander ; they halted ut and
kept the prep. while the rear was contrite up. and
40 use a 111111tair 'phrase turned sharply Oil a pira'..
The Nligi.trates had assembled at Mr. Brixtoit's
hrihse, which was near the hustings, and hid i-surd
their warrant !owl alter the arrival of Mr. Mot.
Mr. Ethelstone reed the Riot Act from the window
of Mr. Buxton's house ; he put himself as foraar.l
and read it as land as was pomble : Mr. Sylvester,
the only. Magistrate present who had been engaged
its trade, hot who was nut of it for twenty rare.
expressing some doubt of the legality of acting
upon the Riot Act en read, was informed by .
the. Megiattutes that they thought the Act had
been duly :reed. bat that it was open to him
if he pleased to proceed elsewhere and read
it. fie immediately attempted to enter the Court
for that purpose, but before lie had gone throegli
mere than two or three lines. he was knocked
about and compelled to take refuge from the
crowd. The next fact was, that Nadir) was ordered
to arrest Hunt, but found it impossible to execute
his order, in consequence of the locked arms of the
people, at the command of Runt, who also desire:l
that if they were attacked, they should nut down
their assailants, and keep them down. Ile denied
that the yeomanry had cut down the people is the
manner thut bad been described. Toe yeomanry
were men of honour, and incapable of the acts that
had been imputed to them—they merely broke
through the crowd to in ike way for the civil
power. They moved slowly forward in single
files, headed by a trumpeter, and not a drop
of blood was spilt until Nadir and others were
attacked in taking the men and colours on the
hustings ; the mob gave complete battle, were
well armed, many with bayonets suit pistols,
and not one without a club or stout bludgeon,
greatly superior to a constable's toad: The Man-
chester yeomanry were, after clearing the way to the
hustings for the constables, hemmed in by the mob,
arid so compactly eitchosed, that they could not
make their way out. The Cheshire yeomanry and
13th hussars were at that time quiet spectators,
but on seeing the state of the Manchester yerenanry
they advanced to their assistance, mud it was the
general opinion that not one of the Manchester corps
would have escaped with his life. The 15th hussar*
made the charge, and the confusion it occasioned
may be conceived from the circumstance, that in
the instant after men, horses. and helmets, were
sees tossed about in one heap in the crowd.—
(Hear, hear.)—The Manchester yeomanry, there-
fore, did not charge; they merely acted on the de-
fensive. As to the facility with which information
of facts could be obtained, he hail only to say,
that oaths were to be had without much difficulty
upon the subject. Two persons were brought to
Stockport to prove that Birch had not beau shot, or.
if he was at all, that it was by Lloyd, the solici-
tor's son. The person who brought these men was
Mr. James Muorhouse. The worthy Gentleman
concluded by severe remarks on the licentious and
irreligious publications which were industriously
circulated throughout the manufacturing districts,
and the unity of the plan and general concert which
prevailed at meetings, the great object and tendency
of which was the distinbance of the public peace.
If the !Magistracy had committed an error, instead
of applying opprobrious terms to them. they should
be left to the ordeal of the laws, which was com-
petent to punish sny offender.—(Applause.)
Mr. BLADEN here rose and wished to give Mr.
Gibson au opportunity of explaining a part of his
speech, if he had understood him rightly. Did he
mean to say that the Magistrates should have fore-
warned the people, and not have spread toils for
them, and waited till they had gut do in it) the net ?
Mr. GIBtoN, its reply, said, he had used no such
expression. He then observed, that it was held to
be legal, in the time of Lord G. Gordon, to march in
bodies, and with flags—the slatichester yeomanry.
it was true, did not gallop, for they could not
through so thick a crowd. Of course, lint being
actually present at the time lie could not distinctly
prove the whole affair, but he did not therefore dis-
believe it—he never saw the wall of China, but he
believed there was such a wall in that empire. It
may be, that oaths were easily had at Stockport;
hut it mattered not to the present question what oath
Mr. Moorhouse or any other person would take.
Mr.SPENCEZ rose here with greet warmth, and said
lie had not named Mr. Moorhouse as taking any oath.
He desired that no such assertion should go forth
us emanating front him. Gentlemen should recol-
lect that this was a reign of terror in the neigh-
bourhood ; and no man ought to point out another
to veogrunce in this tuuoner. Ile had merely said,
that. Mr. Moorhouse hail gone with two persons,
who said they would prove something about Birch,
but lie did not soy that Moorhouse would take a
false oath.—(llea,.)
Mr. Bea.r..BN veld, he took it to be the este.
Wished rule in argument, that what a man avowed
lie had sat d, should be taken as his expression,
and not what he had disavowed.—(flear.)
Mr. CIRSoN then resumed biereply. and said it
was singular that none of the yeomanry had been
wounded. [Here it said that 32 out of the 77

these, of course, they denominate raiptreselins.--(largh-
ter.)—Thoee whn meet pit'Soselhwark, Norwichoir York, are
described as below merely chop keeper,! Ye., Gentlemen, in
Ibis catiotty, where trade always imparted so great a title
I" "'Pl'', those pertains, the kettle of blinisiera, treat shop,
kwpers with as eniieb cooternot as if they cytisiilere.l them
nob toter ihas a race ivf a.ovp-1-Pers.'-w( and laughter.)
Who attended the York meeting' It was •compowal of
stone of the find (ill ,men iu England. Hot Ilinisters
declare, Chit these Gentlemen, well knono, for wealth, tine-
ct ity, altil,ty, were only it faction. tto that all those
oh., do rot move is tlo•ie contracted aittl ale:nos circle, are
unworthy of notice. I will here, (it ntlesisen„ relate to you
an anecdote: tit• eircom.lance nreorred, I hel:ere, in the
mitt* of Louis XIII. vt rrauce. Om of bar Wooster,
jeeted to him, on a curtain nension, that his n'olies could
tint be gratified except at the eapenue or the notion.
The station,' he replied. • why lam the wnli•ot Wherever
I psi I represent the nation—the nation is moicentiateil in

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inf.' 11.0 rare risr at thr time to a•ny witticionq. the locf.t

%Lick is to impini,iVe for me In Ir • totbilelsia I, of course,
r magowges a Ilerly peegee, like Ike Feeftell, Ott. Illottarelea !Meer.
sataion prodweed epovams. la the present day Minis.
tees mem to imagine that they are Menai ..—hat, in Aeria l.
ill he tanthe that they have made a slizlit mistake.—
Von hat e,Ceatteniais, I think. wisely ileternia alit to arl-
• dress the Prince Ti. rent —bet Wenner you d slake that Wits-
Woos iiersottare--a it were to, it "meld be oadateonting in
me to remnivntoire such a feelitiz. No, !or will not address
him. Iterates., its the exasttnt state of things, at would he
only addressititt the it,aeait's Mishit...l.—those NI inhalers what
hate pretnnidri ly eartre.sed 'their high appr&.ution of ail
the prorea4litirt that have mken•plsee at Slanchester, some
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of whirl" dre 21 torrent warier the coriiizamer of the Coro-
ner. g will Mot dwell sin those procreating', twciost I be.
direr, that. with respect to them there is hot one trading
throothorat the roantry --levier of War, hear.)—Gen.
'lnure, I have no .1..5t,11 that throe same Mioidiers have,
at this very moment, n vote of thanks, redly cut and dry,
and NV nt to In• enti.,n lac heart lay those Members who are to
mose and sec I the Address when Pirliaancast meets. That
Address, I have no liesitatoor iu saying,, will contain a irate

of thanks to Illemoder,—they will call on the British Par-
liament to derlsie that their conduct merits the •pprobstion
of the country in general. lam afraid, Geotictuen they

calcolate or ties, rote with waresotahle confielesce—sad
bow can it h- otherwise, when yon recollect, that, of 659
Memlwrs, of tel the !louse of Comment,' cons:sts, the.
people. it, reality. nominated only 171 )--(. Shame, shame."')
.--This being the ease, it is impossible for Parliament to set
otherwise-630 as Alinistent direct. An Address of the de.
scription I 'have alluded to must be carried by the influence
of the Crown and of the borough proprietors, unless you,
tool the. petnile of England in general, Iske such an at.
Weide as will prove la the Government and the Perlin.
went. th it they. will not permit the freedom of the coml.
try to. he invaded with impsnity--(1/eur, hear, hear.)—
All the Tories I converse with (and sometimes we are '
obliged to mix with had company) are eager fur tlw meeting
of Isar lament. ' No nuttier,' say they, ' whit is done
oat of 11,.Ors—let PXl'll7lllltllt deride, as in their province—
soul, whltever their decision may be, we will bow to it.' It
al .t makes me sick, when I hear such observatioua, know-
ing as I thi, the composition of Parliament. I know there
are men y and of enlightened wisdom in Parliament
—hitt, Gettilensets, what ii ability, what is wisdom, with-
out political inievrily and indepeutlence.--(ffear, hear.)--
I will tell you, Gencerneu, a circumstance that occurred to
toe two or three years ago, and which plainly sheets the de-
graded state of the House of Ciimmons. I was walking
tiuwsi to the House with a Member, sail discoursing with
him on the discussion which was to take place that evening.
My friend expressed the strougest dislike to the conduct of
Minitders, and made such severe animadversions on their
proceeding., that I left him, in Parliament-street, fully be-
lieving that he would vote against Administration. I gave
him great credit fur the I mayor his intention, knowing that
his cussitexions were of such a nature as rendered it desirable
that he should vete for Ministers. That impression, however,
lasted but s few 'Moo tes. My ft iend called after me, and said,
I I am afraid that yon are going away with an erroneous opi-
aims of the course I Milan to adopt. You will be surprised,
after what I have said, to see my name to-morrow in the list
of theme who have supported Ministers.' I said, certainly,
I would feel much surprise. ' Oh!' observed be, ' I can
explain it. It is trite, Ido not approve of the conehiset of
Ministers, hot you know 1 and my family are pledged to sup-
poet them. Now, supporting them when they are in the reghl.
is of no its--it is only by assisting them, when they are
wrong, that I can spew my devotion to their service.—
Weer, Meier Gentlemen, is ■ true pictnre of the
Parliament at It was then, is now, and ever will be, tinder
the present system. I an; surly to speak thus of an
iiistitution that ought to be sacred in the eyes of every
freemaii in a free country. But, Gentlemen, let it he re.
membered, that Ibis is not an attack oar the institution of
Parliament, but on the corruption of Parliament.—(Mear,
hear.)—And we have lit ancient history an example to sanc-
tion my speaking iu this manner. When the Holy Templet
was found to be a refuge fur money-changers, it was not re-

apecterltie a bouaetdpraver by the foamier of our own religion.
Unless the people are determined to make those who ate
elected respect the institution of Parliament—finless they
teach those whon they scud there, that Polinnieut was
meant for the benefit of the many, and nut for the interest
of the priviirireii tees—l feel very much alarmed, lest you
shall be extolled, by a Parliamentary vote of thanks to his
Majesty's blinistera and to the Magistrates and yeomanry
of lllastelsester, to a suspension of the ILaltems corpus Art,
is the rearrest of Gagging Bitb, and that tot only public
meetings, but even meetings like the present, he pro
scribed. But, Gestlemen. 1 say solemnly, that, before such
a day arrives, I wish to be laid in my grave.—(Hear }—
Gentlemen. I stow come tu the third object of the Ursula-
Gans which relates to a subscription. I hope every person
will feel that there is a strong appeal made to their feelings
in favour of those who have suffered at Manchester—and
that, at the same time, it as of consequence to give to the
injured the waits of combating with their Inure wealthy ad-
veraaris. In my opinion, however, the amount of the
subscription is nut so ouch, ouster the present tie-
cunistances, as the number of the subscribers. 1 run.
less I should rather see several thousand bags of shit-
ling' and sixpences collected, than double the sum its large
sail splendid donations. 'those Noblemen and Gentlemen
who have subscribed largely have dune their duty, for they
are men of large property, and we ought to be obliged to
them fur acting 111 so liberal a manner. They have also
dune their duty to the State, because suc► subscriptions
prove Flat they commiserate. the situation of the op-
pressed climes of society, and it Semis to unite the whole
tuition together, I know it is very bard its ask poor people
to make sacrifices. Those individuals may perhaps with
sliffitulty procure a meal a day during the wok; yet, scanty
as their allowance is, if they sacrifice one meal in the week,
in order to subset ihe to the necessities of 'their suffering
vonsitryruess, it will give a relish to every meal they will take
during the remainder of their lives. It will be a cameobsiory
reflective to theses that they have gives their tune, and regir
newt their names an I avower frawdoira. patriot Mooned elisirsty.
koltsought, I think, to he opened In every parish, and
persons appointed to receive sohicriptious, Om, when they
amounted to sus considerable sent, may transfer dhow to
Abersimie, as ,the goes* Treasurer =tier Robert

by the sword, or act wlih that spirit of iiiiiepestkeelf
which their ancestor% had manifemed —( flew% Ibilltr.)—.;
The worthy Elector eunchwted by moving a Rewitistins. sc-
rum:tenths( that Gentlemen, an the • thlAirte
should be analogised to receive subscriptisms, al Amid
be 'mid over to Mr. Weihersione, the Getieved Ttraadret.:....

The motion was seconded by Mr. Millet. and grand bit
, •
unanimously.
A Resolution for the appointment of a Committee ti
carry the ttesointions moo 'Wm 1, was Ihrw liteccd4••
Sir It. Witatos said, hr %runlet ,like rare, ns 14r •se 41e.-
pended on him, that the money tgulorrihr.l wwe. property laid
out. Suh.criptions illlll been entered iiitntor r.ertinii
of a monnment to she memory Of slit; Kineems
and it appeared obal 7,0001. wag wasted hi Adirittstmenta
and sairmec to tinkers *—(ihnnte!)
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Mr. BLACK enured, " Th.l the Cummins, ineet,ei,ry
Monday nicht, hetwern .even rind eirld "'dark. AI ilre'TC,tr%;
Hyatt, in order to receive the reilwris of tito:re who 161/11 vvt-
lerlril
Me. HALL then lirupowesl the thanks of the Nlet.l'int to Sic
Ruben Wi;sritt, whin rilnined thanks in s short .pdrlr, I
which he expressed his re...liners to tweide from l'srli.inittnt
whenever his rmiriituenw CAiir.l MI hint to 110 110.
Mr. MALL shortly rn'led the allrest.on of t't
the prer.ent conte4 in the City-.-Stili t•hr.rlCil twirli (kink-
men a. were of the Livery to caw their hest lutereat is stit.
port of 37eswc Wood tuii Thin p.
This rreuntniendaliuu sip. loudly applauded, an! tic
setting dispersed.

B RA. :, Ac'r, s ts
1.1 —Le .16. s ito t •

LONDON.

SATURDAY, OCTOBER 2. ISI9.

A meeting of tlw liiha.bitants of the ‘Yard or
Cheap was held yesterday at the King's
Tavern, Poultry, fur the purpose of collectieg the
sense of that portion of the metropolis ilium Ow
proceedings of the Magistrates and 3elnianry of
Nlanchester. The mertiog, although Inside re-
spectable from the individuals present, was ity no
means numerous, as it did not at Cu) period of ihe
day exceed 150 itur:rmv, and the uutodr,rs that
vided at the close of the discussion, wise,. theve.•
of the meeting was collected, asnottoted only to
It may also be collected from the spreelirs t.
vered at the meeting, of which:a full report will b•
found in our preceding columns. that the grater
number of those present were closely connected
with the scene of those events which were yesterday
the subject of inquiry. What influence this cir-
cumstance might exercise upon the opinion 'of so
small • meeting, it is not for ws to determine. The
most enlightened integrity of character c:oiltint al-
ways secure the possessor from the ilifinettee of re-
presentations proceeding from friends and kindr.lll
the mind ii.sensibly adopts their feelings and
impressions, and instead of severely searching al, r
troth, is soon employed in the more pleasing tool
gratifying task of devising topics of exculpation,
if tint of absolute approval.
The business of yesterday was opened by Mr
Grissom, who proposed a wire of Itesoto:ion•,
temperately but firmly asserting the tight sti the
people to assemble for the discussion of 4obje.eta of
public importance, and cotnplaining of thalklag,i7
strides of Manchester, for having dispersed a sure t..
hag legally assembled and peaceably conducted.
These Resolutions being read in the (mat of a de-
claration to bind the meeting, llr. JAMCI proposed
a series of counter Resolutions, lamenting the boat
occurrences at Manchester. but exculp.itiii?s, sod
eve commending the *Magistrates and yeeinntli v
for their conduct on that occasion, as being requir-
ed by circumstances, and authorised by the laws of
the country. The discussion on the snhject wis
c lucted with propriety mid decency ott
sides, assertions made by either party, however di:-
pleasing they may be to the other, excited 00
vulgar clamour, but were met by counter assertim,s,
and tsigument by argument. But whatever it'll
ence the discussion may have had on the jndg uetat of
ally person there, it is certain that its tinn.ind lengrh
(being protracted till six o'clock) had the effect of
prematurely clearing the room of no small portion
of the persons assembled at the commencement,
and the friends of the Magistrates and yeomanry of
Manchester having remained arm, there appeared
on a division for Mr. JANE.'. Resolutions ;
against theta 36. So that they were finally carried
in a company of ti 3 persons by a majority of 11.
We are too sincerely the friends of free &setts-
sion to quarrel with any persons for the opinions
they may think proper to. express ; but in the
arguments advanced yesterday by Mr. JAMIs and
his friends, it is impossible nut to priceive that the
very points in dispute are assumed as prier ii,:rs
fully recognised and admitted. It was affirmed
that the Magistrates of Manchester hail wetted
intelligence that the design of those who attended
the meeting of the 16th August was to plunder
the town—that the people were-armed for that toil--
pose—void that they had offered resistance to the
civil power before the cavalry were required In Ile..
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