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in Lord Tymerly's accounts. *bleb occasioned •
catinsineicinien to be made to his Lordship to the
purport, shot although fell credit *as given hit
Lordship for a desire to have the actuante piniserly
udjusted, yet these did appear to he less Mediates'
'oil the part of some of his grate Masi wes coo-
tastes* with the pasha • Wooer, sod that the soly
way left t.' Glevenessent *enforce *e balancing
of the. accounts, seemed to be to amp his Lord;
ship's pension until they sbosid be liquidated. Ts
shot hie lowdshies sserM sonaniod as the meet so;
tiefectory method of wtMiie iiep; hie character from
She impubstimi of issity inteutlonel backwardness, or
wilful impeding the Settleeleot of the accounts.
The payment of the position was accordingly awe-
pouted t and it gave hies great players to shoo,
that he had the sonsfsetion of hewing room the son
of that Noble Lord, in conversation the other day
upon the subject, tint his Lordship's stairs were
'completely arramged, and that upon the final settle-
went of the accounts there appeared to be a balance
in his faveur.—/Hear, Aar.)
Mr. &Ales wee not one of those who thought
that public officers in Emend. particularly those in
the situations of the greatest responsibility, were
overpaid ; but at a time like the present, when
nisaties pressed se heavily 019400 the rest of • the
comineeity, when etteryt other class of individuate
bid experienced a considerable diminution of in-
come. in consequence of the alteration of the
currency and other causes, it did seem to be
a httle too much that there Armlet be ene chew
left, that which was paid out of the produce
of the burdens imposed on the public at large,
who should be benefited, and derive so sit-
crease of income from the operation of those very
circumstances which depressed the whole of the
test of the community. He therefore thought that a
moderate tax upon the actual holders of offices and
place, of emolument would be a very just and pro-
per immure; and tee per cent. would be • very
moderate rate of tax, if coneidered in relation to the
proportion in which the incomes of the other classes
had been reduced.
Mr. HUSIIIISOX wished to suggest for the con-
sideration of the Honourable Member, whether it
would not be • better and more convenient course,
instead of his etireeetitueotiou, to refer the Report
of the Finstee Committee to the Committee of
Supply, ita which the wheelers might be more
resirmiusitly *seaweed. He wee ready to state
that be concurred in all the recommendations of
the Report, as far as the same could be carried
isste•rtfect; end be could assure the House that
there were already under the consideration of the
Treasury the melts of several ieqouries resently
mode in relation to this subject.
Mr. Hume said hr really did not see how any
thing war to be gained by the suggestion of the
Right How. Gentleman, nor hew it would at all
,ndel to the convenience of the tfiseession to refer the
Report itself to the Committee. The Report re-
listed to the public departuseots generally ; now he
coo ld not conceive, for i ionises; how the Committee
no the Army Estimates avid go into the discus-
sion of Sulliedis cossetted with the naval •dewort-
wont.
• Mr. Rummies said. the Hon. Member seemed
to have misunderstood the nature of his suggestion.
The Committee into which they were *bout to en-
See wee one of Supply generally, and if the Report
'were referred to it, it did not follow that the whole
!mild at once be gone into. That part only would
be considered which was apidienble to the particular
basilicas ot the Illaineot•bsiote the Committee.

Mr. Hums .espressed his williagnees to withdraw
tit motion.
The House then resolved itself into a Com-
mittee, and Lord PALMEWOII moved the grant
of 50,418!. 16s. Bd. for an adowauce to the Secre-
tary at War, his Deputy. Clerks. &c. fee the
comet year.
Colonel DAM. was ready to admit, that the
Neale Lord ha t discharged the duties of his office
"nth more rainifectien to the public then almost any
man by whom it had been field, but it was the duty
of the Howie to see not only that the public office*
were efficiently filled, but also that they were as
acapossioally conducted es possible. lint he found
that the expense of this department, winch in the
'ear 1806, when the war toss at its height, and the
duties of the office were tenfold what they were at
present, amonoted only to 25,000/. was stated
in 11321, the eleventh year of peace, at
50,4181.. being double the former amount.—
It mutt true that since 1806, a very expensive eite-
'blislcieetit had been added to the War Office. in
the department of current:accounts the charge fur
which was 12.000/. which sum. added to the charge
in 1806, would give 37,000/. This addition was
iettended to prevent the accumulation of accounts
in arrear ; he therefore had no fault to find with
the principle of the establishment, but he thought
it too expensively conducted. The increase of
13,0001. could in no way be accounted for but by
the augmentation of the salaries of almost every
person on the establishment. The first clerk. who
to JBO6 received 1,200/. now had 1,4001. a year;
another clerk inal.at the former period 1,000/. his
salary Was now 1,2001. ; a third -clerk formerly had
7 501. ebo sow received 1,0001 a-year. There was
reareely one who lied not received en addition to his
salary in the same proportion. The Hon. Member
_then proceeded to observe upon the increase in *eve-
•aill ether items, and concluded by .moving es an
-ansirodment, that the sum be 45,4181. 16a. Bd.
Lord PALUBUTOIII thought that even upon the
• Hon. Memher's own admission he was entitled to;
his vote for the whole df this estimate. He said ht.
was ready to agree to the scale of 1806 ; now
leppeued that 'Le charge at that period was 50,833/.
I ld. instead of 25,0001., as stated by tbe Hroul
•-Member. The Noble Lord then toll/ward the last'
speaker through the remainder of his statements.
arguing in support of the !present estimate. which
Ite.meititained was on moderate a mile as could.
be pawn* proposed. •
Colonel Deetas, in•reply, said, that eceaselinr
to the Report of a.Contiaittee of ft/quire, vehicle:
had the mane elf every person on the establishineet,
in 1806, rod the amount df the salary of each ut Oa
he ,would stake his credit to the ,acumen
of the layout of the department at that.priiod,'
eetirg,stated ew not•eseeeding 25,0001.
Heatheetiteeded that the Noble Lord:had
materially increased his department. He believed,
thatif.the Nebletent had-60,0001. for his offices.
Ini•would.find employments rquol•to.tiost•expeeo.r.
AY lb, Sixth Report of •tbe•Commissievers of Alt-.

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