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iiiiilo- iiTIMBEIt AND SHIPPING.

Mr. ROSE moved the Order of the Day for the
Home resolving itself into a Committee, to consider
of the importation of foreign timber, &c.
Mr. Rust then kteted that the object to which
he lead to call the attention of the Committee woe
of very great importance. It was by laying a
heavy additionalduty on the timber imported from
the North of Europe to encourage the importation
of that essential article from our own Colonies in
North Ainerico.—The price of timber iu the north
of Europe had within these few years risen to an
cuorinons extent—no less indeed than 300 per cent.
Another sliaadvantageottending this trade was, that,
in the present state of Europe. the timber was
brought to us, not by British but by foreign ships,
and this to such a degree, that hr believed there
was paid last year between 2 and 3 millions to fo-
reigners :dour for the freightage of timber imported,
ainouut of 358,000 room He believed that
one-half of the timber necessary for our consump-
tion might be procured from our own Colonies, and
riven if it fell short of his expectations, the country
would he coinpensated fur the loss by other silvan.
tinges. The system now in tree encouraged not only the
building of foreign ship*, but the formation of 'oreigti
sailors, and by the measure he now had proposed, hr
trusted a change would be wrought,by which, instead
of twice that number of sramen,traiued fur Denmark
and Russia, to be
employed
a..tainst us by our
enemies, shout 15.000 would be created for our-
selves. 'flue measure would besides encourage our
caloinef. It would clear their grounds of teinber,
and induce the cisltitatioo of Ns, hemp, Ste. tor
our importation. lit return, the siol • would Le
enabled to take slur manufactures, ifislead of send-
ing nut for their unifier, as we now dot, our ships. in
ballast. Upon all thc,r vnissiderstin is, he tilt-dee!
the Committee would concur with him in the Its-
" to lay an ad.lhional duty on oak wains-
cot. &e. imported sunder any shape from the North
of Europe, and all timber snit imported by the
East India Company, o- directly from our Own
culunirs its North America."

Sir W. Lemon said s few words in favour of the
Resolutiou. . ,
Mr. Hokum rime to esti the earnest attention of
the House, not so much to the present resolution,
as to the alarming increase of Foreign Shipping
in our trade, incidentally btought under their eye
on this occasion. The Right lion. Gentleman had
stated, that, last year, for the freightage of bomber
alone, to the extent of 380,000 10114, this es-sentry
had paid to foreigners the su in of from c! to 3,000,0001.
and, on a former evening, a Gentleman, well ac-
quainted with trade, on the subject of the Marine
lasuraoce, had informed them, that not less than
10,t0m,0001. was paid, the same year, fur the whole
of that apreiti of traffic. This he considered as an
alarming increase of Foreign Shipping, entirely
sithversive of onr muitrine i.ystein. Ur 'gait, en-
treated the norm to take loft their redone consi-
deration this new and growing ev,l, which, in his
opinion, arose from out of the mrecantile system,
so much the favourite of the Right Roo. Gentle.
man opposite (the Chancellor of the Exchequer).
or tins rystem, so persevered in, Bonaparte
might lie taking theadvantage, and, like Cromwell,
who, he diverting tie trade from the Dutch, be-
came the earner and first maritime power of
Eurnire, he might he deluding our t lovernment. by
pleepattng a Witl elf‘rrgurd to cumitarrce, w /111 M. in
fir., eves: in the midst of war, Isy our own ennui-
clue., he was err.i.utv: +4,10n...it to moo hi+ fir,la
'roust us. Fut km 4.40,1, at soy time, treader to

hiseervicethe(men thus employed in a neutral trade"
of powers immediately under his coatroul. if he
exercised his geniu4, as he was well able to do in
this way, he would be playing a deep game, and
deluding us by taking advantage of our own po-
licy.
Mr. Ross. in reply, stated, that so far from
encouraging foreign shipping, the Committee of
Trade never. in one instance. swerved front this
principle—Dever to permit a foreign ship to go
where a British ship could be employed. The
Honourable Gentleman talked of their being de-
luded; but how was this? It was by the strong
hood of Bonaparte, which procured the exclusion
of British shipping from the North of Europe.—
The question then was, whether. by accepting of
neutral carriage, where no other could be used,
they were to carry on an important trade? or, by
rejecting this means, were to shut the door 011 their
exports, and starve their manufacturers? It was
a consolation to know. that, under all the disad-
vantages unposed by the enemy. our own shipping
had increased iii value. As a proof of this, lie in-
stanced a vessel. hought three years ago for 2,700 i.
cow selling at 6,0001.
Mr. D. GIDDY considered it as a matter of ge.
neral pol.cy (o encourage trade with our own colo-
nies. The argument of Bonaparte's treading in
the steps of Cromwell, was an additional reason fur
approving of the proposed measure. He had heard.
however, that the timber from North America was
not udequote for our national purposes, and also
that the qnseitity could not he so great as the
Right Ho.i. Gent. expected, or the IISCS of the
country required.
The Cnsscrobbon of the ExcimouErt, to re-
move the melancholy apprehensions of the Hon.
and Learned Geot. opposite (Mr. Horner), and „i
those upon whom his forebodings might have made
an hart &lion, rose to staste.'thut 'the increase of
shipoinviii the trade to the North of Eu-
rope had been more than counterbalanced by the
increase of British shipping in the trade to South
America and the Spaiash and Portuguese calomel'.
The increase, indeed, was of both kinds, frets the
increase of the commerce of the country. Ma
was proved by the papers on the table of the Hesse,
trout which it appeared, that the number of British
ships that cleared inward •

In um, Was
u 'roe

Being an increase of .. 1,311 J
The Torrign Ship cleared inward, fur lbolasne years,
were,io ISti;
In 1111.1 'Pr 4,614

As ierrelime or
At the wee periods the Ship• eleariegootwerAt were
in iesq
to I bOg

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inertias
General Tait, d the Resolution.
Mr. Hoaxes and Mr. Rose severally explaiwed.•
Mr. TaastAvrx observed. that the American
timber was out it focall the porpbees to which this
country would wish to apply her importations of
that nairle, nod oe would therefore be at a loss fur
our tiecraaury aupplies were it heavy duty, Amount-
ing to a prohibitiou, to be laid on that from the
North of Europe.

For Juno Nawenar was proceeding to observe'
on the manlier in which Ireland would be affected
by the ineinwre, when informed by Mr. Itosc. that
he had at present iw intention of extending it to
that country.
Mr. BALLING Objected to the system of trade fa-
voured by Minion is, as tending to prefer the
Northers; Neutrals, which were, in reality, our
etietnies, to the American shipping, in the trade
to Norway unil the Baltic. That trade might
much better be carried un under the American
nag; but for this really neutral power had 'keit ►ub-
stitnted pretended ortstreis, who might be in-
stantly converted into enemies, and we were en-
riching a part of the world it was least our interest
to enrich. This was the great error of the present
system—the encourager tent of the Northern Powers
instead of America. 11ith reg ird to the taw tsure
itself, he feared our cnloiiiirs would neither produce
a sufficient quantity of timber nor that of sullicteut
duality. It would, besides, give the Western part
of the kingdom an advantage over the Eastern, as
the former would be itts:iplied front Amens., and
the latter from the Baltic. It would also increase
the price of a tieceasary article, already enormously
high. The object was, however, a great one, ',ad
the expel might be tried.
Mr. Ross said, that Government hurl ever been
ready to encourage America, as far as she wool., al-
low them to favour her. The disposition was, and
ever had been, the same.
Mr. PARNELL, from a clause in the barrack con-
tracts, in Ireland, enforcing the use of Memel. in
Opposition to American timber. took it for granted,
that the latter was of a very inferior quality. lie
most therefore be averse to a measure which would
iutrnduce it into all our
.poblic works. Ile also
imposed the resolution, as tojerferitig iu an unristi-
&lsle wanner with the trade of the countrj, which
ought always to be left free.
The reinlation. and others consequent thereon,
were then agreed to, mad the report ordered to be ,
received to-morrow.

After o Mar emitinn between Mr. BASTARD and
L'rd PALlitatToll, the innkeepers petit,,,,, s, FO4-
' iee to the rxtes or allowance for soldiers, &e. were
agreed to be rli.ertrowd to-morrow.

E.ANT INDIA TRADE.
Mr. PaRNDERtiVIT. m pursuance of his notice,
rose to move (or the production of ■ paper which
could those much light on the state of India
Finance, but more espewially on the export trade
of that country. The fate of his forme► motion
should not deter him from trying the fate of ano-
ther. though •pprelietoive of resistance frees the
same touter which caused it to be rejected, on the
*core that the pipets wire too volumnions and ex-
pensive. Ile now wiahid osly for a single Jocu-
vomit, whist) mold be restated on no other account
but as exposing the Executive Government of
lu-
dia. sod the ►ausd dewy of the exports of that
country, which by good management mistlit be
mode so productim. Ile corielutled by moving fur
the copy of ■ letter from the Gotersear and Comical
to the Ciotti of Di►ectors, dated August 2:1. mit
Jan it. DI:1111.41 opposed the motion, on the

grouud that the paper was now Wore the
ladia Committee. whose Report would bn,
under the consideration of the Hon.,
apposed the Hon. Gentleman's former .motif", I
troy...a desire of any concealment of atfairiti'll were perfectly well known, but on accutiat of
immense mass of
_Japers moved for, which eN
net have been produced but at very great rapt He now opposed his motion. because he count:,
it highly inexpedient to take a detaeheil paper.
under the consideration of the Committee, ~,
ou the House for a decisiou on a part of a qausti
when they would soon hove the whole before the,
Mr. CaELvEY supported the 'notion.
Mr. GRANT did not sae the least occasion
the production of the paper.
Mr. Du N DAS explained.
Sir JOHN A NSTRUTHER said, that the ingt
respecting the private trade was by no mean"
wed ; there was a great deal of inforougio„
ri
conic forward respecting India Hirai's. lie -
most anxious to see how much the Comp.tin
be meting upon their present 'system. Ile bci
that the trade of the country was consider:llAl
tereil, and that the imposition of tbose fettors
cost the Company Yvo,uool.
Mr. PETER Nlnoar. said, 'that he °emirs,'
House ought to call imperiously for the report
the Committee; it was upon a subject the
materiel to the country, mid should be Mu
insisted upon.
Mr. WALLACE stated. that, in conseprocec
great press of business, the report could not,
produced at un early period ; but it was in a pro.
gressive state, and would, he hoped, be soou law
(Need.

lISEKOURGAST talk!, Out it enuld he proud,
by as examinutiou into huhu 6,11,ms that the
Company aus iu aatett tabutikruirry; Lint if Ilion
affairs were properly attended to, the cunsequese,
a mild beet. been directly opposite. AS to the J.
euments. uu possible reason could lie given
their refits .1.

After *rune word* from Mr. Arttt.tY Coor
the Houle divided, when there apprar,ll
For. the Motion
Apiest it — im

bleaseity —49
ASSESSED TAXES
Mr. PERCETAL moved for leave to bring is
Bill for regulating the manner in which surcharges
are mode in the Assessed Taxes, Sec. It ays, las
intention to propose same alterations lit the present
mode. which he thought would hive the effects(
improving the system considerable. lie wi.ised
that all surcharges shotittl.be reterrtd to the au^.
sor and stir.ey or. who should be ensposerel Is
make any allowance which the ve,r might est: fsr.
When nay surcharge was nutoe, it was the a.-
tons, at present, to give regular notice to the Ikt•
son surcharged. who, if he disputed the just ce sf
it, was required to make oath of the avainst of ins
property ; hr (Mr. kreeval) would propose, IVA
the notice . should be served regularly. is ease,
but that the oath should out he required.—
All that he thought it would hr proper to deinviii,
was a declaration, with power to punish, in rases(
falsehoods, but not involving the guilt our aIE,
the penalty of perjury. lu all cases where the ever
did not appear to the Coininissioners to be made
with a fraudulent intention, 110 double dmies shoal&
be charged. Those connected with a &abacus.
stderatioo, computed the sum of the alteration
which it we. his intention to submit, upon a gun.
Lion which had certainly excited much discontent.
The other point which he proposed to include, was
as to the punishment of those officers who were
convicted of snaking vositiour surcharges; at pre-
sent they were wily punithable by dismissal, which
war too severe for some rases. To obviate the in-
couvenience of this. lie would suggest, that the
Coininissioners should be empowered to inflict
penalties, deducting from their profits according u
the circumstances of aggravation or extenuatios
might seem to require. If the House should think
proper to adopt those regulations, he hoped that
lunch of the evils complained of would be removed.
Mr. Cacti vett. did not think that the mulcting
• Surveyor of a portion of his profits, incase of ves-
atious
surcharge, was au adequate punishment.
lie should. therefore, in a future stage, proposes
clause to remedy that defect in the Bill.

Mr. W. Stairs' did not think that the scilicet
could ever obtain effectual redress by applying to
the tax officers. He did not nieau to object to die
Commissioners individually, for many of chose
dlitfleCtfrs he had the highest respect, but the,
would naturally have a fit ourable eye towards thaw
who brought in moat money. and such partiality
would imperceptibly Liss them io their judgments.
It wail of the utmost importance that the people,
who were bur.lened so Itruiily. should be kept ia
good humour. The a,v n 4 upon the abolition of
sitioeure places, as often as it v as mrutionrd in that
wall though• of ea nothing ; he was there-
fore surmised when he saw that the whole exp►u-
sire ti tern of surcharges produc'd only 134,0001.;
yet, for this cousparatitely trifling sum, it Was
though' expedient to persist i e a measure °booe,.
ions to the country at large. The irgument sbooki
hint he permitted tuoptrate only when it was avast
the people.

A Nleinher. whose name are could nut kern, re-
presented in a strong light the grievances that
exist& under the head of surcharges. la one dis-
trict in Berkshire, uo less than 700 sorcharget
had been made, every one of which ors do-forted.
and only two of which could he niaintained. It
guys support to a system of extortion, for which no
profit derivable to the Government could com-
pensate, much less • prefit• so small it 4 that which
at had been stated to produce. He hoped that the
provisions of the Right I fon. Gent. would be found
sufficient to rented, the ttlikaf which the coulitry
complained.
Mr. SraveN was of opinion that the abuse arose
principally homer a entailment no making the return;
rhs best way to prevent which, would be, as his
itiltht HOU. Friend had proposed, to permit them
to correct it. The lion. (hart. oppostie (Mr. W.
Smith) bad stated the produce of the parChartge.
but he might es well say, •iliat the whole bee' fit
arising to the community, from the prosrcutiou
any offender at the Old Bailey. was the 401. prod to
the pr,sectitor on conviction, or that the advatio.Le
of all leers •reitila sios,•gling. consisted 110 II
amount of the in real/vete&
31r. BRASD saggestid that it would be more s;-

tisfactory to the
vestions of Mt
Mr. BASTARD
Sir. J. lIALL
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when the linuilnn
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that it au imp
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to bria4 in a bill,
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of that boll was to
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Mr. J. SMITH I
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that the only coo:
a soldier was how
Shakespeare for a
surgery, nor doll
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should hr wades
of ouoitiou ; an
roam of exclude
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tisfactory to the feelingoof the country to have the
questions of surcharge decided by a jury.
Mr. BASTARD Supported the same idea.
Sir. J. Hsu. said, he understood that traders
might .tate their losses by accidental circumstances,
nimi which allowances were made in the demand,
ot Government; he thought it hut just that the
(armor should be perinived to do the saute, in cloy
of bad weather and pour crops.•
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, that
when the leurilords were induced to remit the rent
upon such consideration+, Govrrument would re-
mit the duty. With respect to the suggestion of
the Honourable Gentleman, (Mr. Brand), the sub-
ject had now a right to go before a jury. The act
which he should pro fuse wn.l intended to afford a
remedy, in rases wliieli were nut of sufficient mag-
Kited,. to bring to that issoP.
After a few observations from Sir CHARLES POLE
and General LOFT, ieNse was given.