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bo, to the state in which that portion of the people were now
rimed, without feeling that it was entirely owing to the grind-
jooorotem of taxation, which took from them more than they could
bA'r and yet hit Majesty's 31iiiinters had, from year to year, beet'
lea itugtheen on, by holding nut that no such state of things ex:
iga The Right Honourable Gentleman had so lately as In
th• month of March last, concluded his speech by stating, that
held in his hand • list, which showed a great increase
oo.omption in almost every exciseable article. The Honourable
„adman, after complaining of the unfairnaa in the selection
• be r-ar 1816 as the point of comparison, when everything was
in •
in the most depreued state, while in the year 1825 the greatest de.
gree of excitement prevailed, proceeded to comment upon the
„,..euracio in the Right Hon. Hentleman's statement. And first,
;02 regard to malt; in taking a review of the annual consumption
of that article for the last 40 years in England and Wales. it &p-
-atio' that the quantity annually consumed had actually decreased,
int withstanding an increase of consumer*, of about 40 per cent.
lied. ,o contended, from documents which he read, that the con-
swing, in wines, spirits, sugar, tea, and tobacco had all greatly
&crewed, ootwitbstanding the increase of the population, and that
o,upensm had proportionally increased. Ile tomtit not go
hamlet' the items of bricks and tiles, and such thing", to
inquire whether they were or were not increased in consumption;
but this he would say, that if they looked to the state of the
people, In every point of view of the premises he had just
man, it would appear that their moral condition was much
cowered, and that their comforts were almost utterly taken away.
The heavy taxation accounted for the distress. The Can Laws and
other things might conduce to aggravate its pressure, but Its prin.
eipol source was • standing army in the present year of 87,000 men.
Such 'statement .sufffeiently proved how little desire there existed
among Ministers to relieve the boohoo' of people. He would
or.lr relate two %eta relative to this: one of these was the immense
cis on account of the half-pay. The numbers of the half-pay
establishment were still on the increase, notwithstanding the pro-
mises of the Noble Lord, and his calculations in 1817. holding
out a continual decrease ; but on the contrary, the exact nunibers
on half-pay In 1822 were 13,721. from Colonels down to the Hospi-
tal establishments ; and In 1800 the numbers *ere 13,839. so that
there was an Increase of I lit persons on the half.pay Hat during that
period, notwithstanding death and other accidents, which ought
to have redo ed it. That was a sufficient exposure of the expentli.
fore of the e mntry, and of the ills resulting from it, when so many
idle persons were supported at the expense of labour and industry.
He wished to go more into detail on this point, but he had moron to
complain ;lint he had not received returns for which he had moved.
Ile expo •ckl to have trauma of the promotions which had taken
place, in order to prove the Motility of keeping 6,173 officers on
half.pay. What was the use of promoting officers from day to
day, alien so many were paid without being employed? It
was 'wily to make way for the promotion of particular persons, and
of increasing by that means the preponderating Influence or
the. Court; a power which the Howie ought not to concede to his
M.jerty. But if the army was bad, the navy was still worse.
Tau he considered an important point. it was a fact that a large
pinion of the Legislature were influenced in their votes by that
patronage in the Navy; it was bad, as viewed with regard to the
snore. but it wart quite impossible to shut one's eyes on its ill con.
'Names, when regarded as a corruptive influence. The advan-
tages ginned by the naval promotions were that the heads of some
familia voted as Ministers chose. in the year 1793 the caters in
the navy were 2.063. but in 1823 there were 59 Admirals, 64 Vice-
Admiral.. 20 Rear-Admiral*, 820 Captains, 814 Commander,
sad 3.720 Lieutenants. In the present year the Lieutenants were
reduced to 3,51t7, while the Commanders were increased to 8211,
and the whole amount of officer' in pay was 8.528, while the num-
ber employed was only 328, so that the number of officers main.
tuned was sufficient for seven fleets such as we at present had at
rt. Nn one could say that the promotions which took place last
year were for the good of the service; it was obvious that they were
solely for the interest of great families, and rush a system of pro.
MO:i011 and expense was an evil which ought to be looked in the
face and put an end to. Rut the 'ante system was not pursued in
the corps of Marines, consisting of eight or nine thousand men.
If one branch of the service ought to be made efficient, why not
all? Yet in the Corps of Marines, consisting of eight or nine
thoassod, only seven promotions had taken place doting the late
Ave years. He saw, In the Ordnance and in other departments, the
same syatem of increasing expenditure, and he could not help aerie.
ing &gibe conclusion that it was the enormous demand made on the
industry of the community, by the amount of the public burdens,
which principally occasioned the present distress. Ile wished to
say a few words in reference to the 45th Resolution : he had there
stated the progress of pauperism and clime; he had allowed that the
parochial assessments were on the increase, but papers had since
been laid on the table, which contributed still further to show the
increase of pauperism; the poverty and distress pervading the
country were greater than were imagined, contrary to the state.
meats of the Right Hon. Haldeman ; but if any Gentleman would
cast his eve on 'Fable 5, he would see that the number of commit-
tals in 1803 were 4,00, white in 1825 they amounted to 14,426.
Crime was hell to be the child of poverty, and poverty was the re-
sult of a heavy taxation. When :Violaters contented to support a
number of idle persons by taxation, they had much to answer for ;
they contributed to cause that pauperism which threatened the
welfare of the nation. It wits Impossible to look at the state of
crime without feeling alarm. In 1822 the numbers committed
were 21,000; and in 1823, 22,000; but the numbers committed to
Net/gate last session during six weeks were 450. To correct those
ills, the first object ought to be to reduce taxation • much good
ht he done, undoubtedly, by Otne.tmovlelling tho'nealleiteit by
altering the Sinking Fund, and by other means ; but unless the
alinlstrs put their shoulders to the wheel, in order to reduce tax.
anion, there could be no hope of permanent relief; if they persevered
in maintaining a war establishment, they would hind, in the season
of national danger, the baneful effects of a protracted exhaustion.
Ile, for one, would acquit his conscience of any share in the pro.
election of those ills : he had often called the attention of the house
to the lavish squandering of the national resources. lie had re-
ceived letters from different parts of the country which would liar.
roe up the feelings of the house; the distress was universal, and
gmeral privation must proceed from genets! causes ; and the cause
be believed to be the exaction of too much money from the com-
munity by taxes. Ile was not one used to be affected with gloomy
anticipations. He knew the distresses of the country, but he knew
Its capabilities also. "Ile had often said that this country had
great capabilities and great energies; but it could not on that
account support indefinite burdens. We ought not to allow an
increase of debt, nor the maintenance of a great establishment;
but we ought to proceed cautiously and steadfastly in the reduction
of both: on these grounds he hoped the House would go along
with him in voting that an humble address be addressed to his
Majesty, praying that he might be pleased to take into considera-
tion the present state of the nation, and to direct an immediate in-
quiry to be made into the causes which produced the present
tress, and to order such measures to be adopted as might speedily
relieve the present embarrassment.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it was
about eleven o'clock this (yesterday) morning when he was first
pat In possession of the series of Resolutions of the lion. Gentle.
roan ; and when he observed to the House that these resolutions
were forty-five in number. and that they were spread over twinty.
seven folio pages—that they embraced even), possible question rela-
tive to the funded debt and to the unfunded debt, together with
statements of every branch of revenue—that they embraced ever"
topic connected with the great and complicated interests of this
enontry—the House would acknowledge that it would be itnpos.
tilde for any man to enter into a detailed view of the subject. He
would theretore entreat pardon of the House if he entirely omitted
any consideration of a great part of the Hon. Gentleman's speech.
Re would not seek to hilltop the lion. Gentleman in his arguments,
because he thought it would be impossible, but he would touch
only on some points for the purpose of explanation. lie had no
ides that the object of the lion. Gentleman's motion was such as it
had proved that its only result would be an admonition to reduce
taxation. He thought it inconceivable how such should be the sole
conclusion of the Honourable Gentleman's speech, but he had con-
sidered it his duty to look over what had been printed,
and saw something there on which he thought it necessary
to make sonic animadversions. He found in the first place that the
Hon. Gentleman had charged him (the Chancellor of the Exche.
quill with making false statements ; it was not stated whether
through ignorance oe illusion; but he was charged with making
false statements; he denied that and every similar charge, and
he thought it unustral to charge Members with unatchorised ac.
counts of their statements. lie (* Chancellor of die Exchequer)
did not feel himself answerable for words said to have been spoken
by him in 1023; but the Hon. Gentleman had charged him with
falsehood, (he could not qualify the expression), and if that charge
were true, he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) would not be lit
to hold a situation in that House. But he was charged with mak-
ing an assertion with regard to the redaction of the funded debt,
tr:iielt he had said was redneed 111.441.00 W. by the operation of the
licking Fund, and the Hon. Gentleman declared that that state-
ment would be found inconsistent with the facto contained in his
Resolutions; but if that statement wire consistent with the papers
maul before the Holm,. he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) Would
be Satisfied. lie had not, however, made such a statement. He
did not say that the reduction took place by the operation of the
Sinkbg Fund ; but he said that it did not.' On that occasion he
titled saying that he would propose a simplification of the
Sin ki rag Fund; but though lie mentioned the reduction of debt,
the lionOeutleman might 'retia the word Sinking Fund was not
used, and yet he would not feel bound by • word.
Mr. HG ME said that he applied to the Right lion. Gentleman
for en explanation the very night the words went used.
The CILVNCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER.— A comparison
would show the progressive decrease of the debt during seven years.
In 1016 the amount of the funded debt was 814,311,4461.; the
unfunded debt 48,611,0061. In 1024 the funded debt amounte Ito
724;,:k0,0001.; unfunded 43,4:16,0001. So that the reduction during
film seven years in the funded debt was no less than 19.791,09111.
But. in making these statements, he had not mud the words "sink.
tog fund," because he knew that many ether causes contributed to
producethe (Met. The Hon. Gentleman was not entitled in his
Reoolutions to select a garbled array of expreseinue : when he pre.
tended to quote, he ought to quote correctly. But the Honourable
Gentleman had said that the statements made by him (the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer) were inconsistent with the facto contained
In his (Mr. Hume's) Resolutions, So that the Howie was called on
lien to vote him (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) wrong, and
afterwards to rote the resolutions which condemned him, to he
correct; but he was sure no one would condemn him, who listened
to the clumsy manner in which the charges had been brought
tomtit him; yet the lion. Gentleman was enamoured of that style
of reaming, and used it on several occasions; as for instance, in
*solution there the lion. Gentleman said that the reduction
of 27 millions of taxation was quite fallacious, as would appear
front the subsequent resolutions ; so that he war to be condemned
in the first instance, and then the proofs of that sentence were to be
found. But be would again look back ; it was, indeed, impossible

to follow the method of the Hon. Gentleman, which was so in•
volved, that he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) was disposed
to cry. "Chaos is conic again ;" but he would look beck to the
second resolution. and exentine the justness of its conclusion. The
statement intended to be there refuted was that relative to the
funded dabt, which amounted, in 111111, to 816,411,0001., and in
11123, to 795430.000 r ; and the lion. Gentleman attempted to
disprove that statement, by referring to a period from which a
part of the above period was really excluded. He begat; his
statement in 1817, and not In 11116. It the Honourable Gentleman
would refer to the rtsolutione which he had proposed at that time,
and which he had not carried, he would find from them the or.
soundness of all the charges he lied brought forward. Ile (the
Chancellor of the ElChtqUer) was sure that his statements would
be found to tally with parrs, although perhaps not with the re-
solutions of the Hon. Gentlemen. The Hon. Member adopted en
extraordinary method after speaking on the subject for two limes ;
he 'aid he would rot trouble the House any farther at present, but
would take another opportunity ; he would therefore leave it for a
future occasion. Really he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) did
not know that lie was called on to justify the conduct of all the
Ministers for the Int quarter of a century. The lion. Gen &man
had attacked the financial policy of Mr. Pitt and of others. The
arguments on the Sinking Fund, and the comparison of borrowing
with one hand and paying with the other, were, it was obvious,
applicable to antecedent arrangements, andwere not to hc anewered
solely by the present Administration. There might be doubts with
respect to the utility of a Sinking Fund, and he knew that
a great change I.: opinion had taken place on that subject,
but he had never ascribed anything wonderful to its operation,
and he felt that the charge was quite unfound‘d. The Hon.
Gentleman complained too of the mystification of the public ac-
counts. If any thing could he impossible sod absurd it would
be the attempt of Ministers to mystify the public accounts; and if
such an end were sought to be accomplished. he would refuse to
take any nart in public affairs. But it was impossible to banish
every difficulty from account, so extensive and v ohm% ax those of
this country. He would utterly despair of' making the public ac•
counts interesting to persons who would devote hair an h cur every
mottling to their perusal ; he eruld t o make them eat), to such per.
sons; but if any mode could be devised to simplify them, although
it might expose him to more attacks, and more char and intel-
ligible attacks, he would gladly adopt it. The Hon. Gentleman
also (barged him (the Chancelkw of the Exchemier) with coming
slow to the Mope and boastMe of lightening taxasihn, whlth he
thought herd not been done. The reduction of eight millions and a
half appeared to hint only apparent ; the same amount was evied
on the people as before. But that proved the greater multi Oili-
ness of fewer taxes. When the duties were reduced on witiee, the
result was an increased consumption, and though the anticipated
loss of revenue by that reduction was tostimated at only 239.0901.,
the actual loss fell shoe even of that. But it could not be con-
tended that no one had the benefit of the change. If be had
given a battle of wine to any one who could not have had
it before, he felt that the measure was bent kis!. The
Hormirahle Gentleman said that reittetion of text.:(t was of no
benefit, because the proceeds were as high as at the former period.
Such a proposition as that was so preposterous, that he (the Clian.
cellor of the Exchequer) would not take upon himself to answer it.
The Honourable Gentleman ( Mr. Hume) talked about spirits, and
compared a few of the last years with antecedent periods. What
was the fact as regarded the subject of spirit., and what had he
(the Chancellor of the Exchequer) done ? Why, finding that the
consumption of spirits was decreasing whin there was a great in-
crease of population. which afforded a prima
,Janie case at least
that there ought to have been an increase of consumption instead
of a diminution, the duty was reduced, and the consequence was an
increase of consumption. But the full effect of that benefit had not
as yet been felt, because the Act altering the duty on spirits only
passed last year, and came into operation so late as the sth Jan. last.
The Hon Gentleman, therefore, was not entitled to draw any
conclusion front a regulation she benefit of which had not as yet
come into full operation, He (the Chancellor of the Exchequer)
admitted that at present there did not appear to be any increase,
hut as the diminution of consumption was naturally supposed to
hare arisen from the amount of duty, and as steps had been taken
to remedy that by a reduction of the duty, the Hon. Gmtleman
had no right to say that he had not attended to the subject in qucs.
tion. The Hon. Gentleman also found fault that for three suc-
cessive years he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) had seated to
the House that there was an incvease of revenue and consumption,
and said that upon these occasions the House was congratulated
upon the increase of the revenue. that therefore he (the Chancellor)
of the Exchequer) took pleasure In abstracting money from the
pockets of the people. To that most absurd charge he would only
say it did not affect him in the least, and that he treated ft
with the most possible indiffetence. He could not, however, let that
obeertatlon of the lion. Ghntlefnan pale unregarded, bedattte he
(Chancellor of the Exchequer) placed reliance npon that circum-
stance, that the condition of the people was better. On former
occasions he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) had gone back to
1792, and had compared the Consumption of that and other years
about that period, to prove the comparative difference between con-
sumption and demand. On that occasion he had also adduced
proof, but which the Hon. Member had tailed to rend in the con-
clusion of the paragraph. He had teed to the House his (the
Chancellor of the Exchequer) opinion upon that occasion, *hat
was the actual state or the country at the period to which
he alluded. The country, at that time, was in the utmost pos-
sible state of confusion, and he would call open those gene
Gernert connected with rant of the country in which it existed. la
seam *hether the country was not at that time in a state of die-
tress, and even bloodshed. That, however, had fortuiiately
vanished; and that was the period he had taken from sell:tit to
drawn an inference, certainly not the most favourable for the ob-
ject he had In view. The Hon. Gentleman complained that in
1824 he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) had said that there
existed an augmentation of revenue in the three former yearn. If
that were true, what better possible proof could be adduced of the
ease, comfort, and increasing happiness of the peopic, Otto being ;
deduced front an increase of consumption ? If eitoof retold not be i
adduced from such a source, from whense could it be obtained ?
The lion. Gentleman said that he (the Chancellor of the
Exchequer) had compared the years 1816 and 11125 in his Plate-
ment on a former occasion, to serve a pnrpose. He did not know
what the Hon. Gentleman meant by the words " to nerve a pur-
pose;" that he compared them to serve a purpose in argumeat was
most certainly true, and he felt mowed that he wee justified in so
applying it. His object was to -chew, in competing those years,
what Parliament had done, and he also stated there had been a re-
duction of taxation, and went on to whew, by a comparison between
consumption and demand, what had been the mate of the case from
those facts, and that, he contended, in opposition to the Hon. Gen-
denten, was a perfittly proper and legal course of argument. But
what was the consequence ? The lion. Gent. now taunCed him with
including woof in hie then statement; but he would tell the Hon.
Gentleman he had done no such thing, for he took particular care
not to do en, and guarded his observations at the time particularly
on that point, which he would not have mentioned, but it stood
last in his list upon that occasion. • What lie had then said was,
" that if upon all articles of taxation, upon which the rate of
taxation was highest, there war an increase' Of consumption, it
showed a progressive improvement in the state of the country ;" and
he was assured that the House, in looking into these facts, would
not think hint deserving of those imputations which the Hon.
Gentleman had cast upon him. The Honourable Gentleman had
said a great deal upon the subject of the army and navy, and had
cast aspersions on the motives and actions of his Majerty'y Go-
vernment, and indeed of Honourable Members on the opposite
side of the House, as connected with those departments. but into
the particulars of which he One Chancellor of the Exchequer) must
be excused from entering. lie, however, must say, that his
Majesty's Government were charged with a very serious duty,
wholly of a different nature from that implied by the II on. Gent.
It was impossible to foresee what difficulties anti events might
arise. It was incumbent upon them to protect the foreign posses-
sions by such a force as should be enabled to repel aggression on the
part of thestates by which they were surrounded ; and the Government
would abstain from doing their duty, if they (lid not maintain those
services upon such a scale as to meet that object. The Hon. Gen-
Hassan wee wholly free from the awful responsibility which rested
on hie Majesty's Government in those respens ; at the same time
he admitted they would be guilty of a great dereliction of duty, if
they were maintained for such purposes as those stated by the Hon.
Gentleman. Such aspersions were easily cast, but the Hon. Gen-
tleman had we right to infer, because his ideas differed from those
of his Majesty's Government, that he was of necessity right, and
that they were necessarily wrong. He (the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer) did-not know why the Government were to be tied down
by the Report of the Finance Committee, because that Report re-
commended the establishment of the Army and Navy to be
brought down as near as possible to what it watt in the year
1782. " As near" was a term of degree, and must be taken with
reference to our foreign possessions, and it would be found that
any one in analyzing that part of the question would lind that his
Majesty's Government had not propoeed any defence for the Co.
lontes not essential to their welfare. It was a subject that had
been under discussion for years, year after year, and those discus-
sions had tended to phew, .and to convince many Honourable
Members of that house, not usually coinciding in opinion with his
m• Majesty's Government, of the ces.ity and expediency of these
establishments, as they existed at present. The Resolution on this
subject went to charge every man's conduct with some trumpery
or unworthy motive; and it was galling in the extreme, that after
Government had received the almost unanimous support of that
House on the subject—it was galling to hear the Honourable Gen.
Heenan ascribing miserable and paltry motives for their conduct.
Ile (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) could not conceive what n:o-
-five the Hon. Gentleman judged- from, but it certainly was clear
that it was not from a very worthy one. All he could say was, that
he should not attempt to vindicate himself, and perhaps others felt
disposed to treat the Hon. Gentleman with as much indifference as
I he was disposed to do. lie (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) could
not speak for three hours and a half (hear, hear), but thought it
quite impossible that, on forty-five Resolutions which no person
could comprehend, the Hon. Gentleman could call upon the house
to move for an Address to the (:men ; and he felt convinced that
if they could not vote fur the first of those Resolutions, they could
not vote, in justice and common sense, for the others. For one he
should not consent to the Hon. Gentleman's motion for an Address
to the Crown ; not because he did not admit the right of Parlia-
ment so to do, but because it attributed to the Governmern an
insensibility to the distresses of the country. Upon that and the
other grounds he had stated he should object to the Address, which
urgently inferred that his Majesty's Government were indifferent
to the distress with which the country was assailed. Those dis-
tresses must come home to every breast, and he that did not com-
miserate in them must be either more nr less than man. The
Right honourable Gentleman concluded his speech amidst much
cheering.
Mr. BROUGHAM said that the ;tight Honourable Gentleman
who bad spoken Lot appeared to have mistaken several of the

observations of his Honourable Friend ; and as there were many
Members now present who hail not heard the statement of his Hon.
Friend, lie should beg to mention those punt of his most valuable
and luminous address. The )lilt Honourable Gentleman (the
Chancellor of the Exchequer) said that he only received the re.
solutions of his Ilan. Friend that day, at eleven o'clne.k. If that
was matter of grievance to the Right Honourable Gentleman. it
wax much more so to him, for he did not receive thin, until half.
past seven, when he esine doom to the House. expecting a very
different subject to he discussed. namely, the corn titivation, or the
Act for the regulation of the Court of I 'bancery, and he wished to
knit. if it was more material that he 'Might be to a worse situation
than theßtght Hon. Gentleman. lie ( Ilr. H.) wished the !louse
to attend particularly to the charge made by the Right Hon. Gen.
denten against his illonottrable Friend. for hastily bringing on the
question of the State of the Nation. Upon former occasions, in
which the question of the 'owe of the na•ion was to become the
snhjett of discussion in that House, so far loon having eight hours
notice, and having the subject in writing, or indeed printed, so
as to have the advantage of it in hand at the time of the debate, the
Right nett, Gentleman would have heard a speech, and at the
close of it particular calrtilatinne, minute details, and the mast
elaborate statement of figures. Ile would so have heard the speech
tei;hout one hour's notice, and without having had one item given
into big hands. With respect to the first Renoletion, from what
hail fallen from the Right Finn. Gemleman, it appeared that he
had understood his Honour:dile Fitted to have made a charge
against him of deliberately misleading the House ; but he
(Mr. Brougham) did not understand bon to have made any
such charge. The account, differed one from the other, and
theft the Right lion. Gentleman said you mum make your charge
on a publication not sanctioned by me. [Here Mr. Brougham
turned to 31r. Hume to nscertain the enrreetness of what he was
stating, but who not observing. remitted nn answer upon which
Mr. Brougham said he was sorry his lion. Friend was not paying
that attention which he had done to him.] (Hear anti laughter.)
I The statement in question wee Olken from a speech of the Right
I }lnn. Gentleman, not sanctioned by him; but helMr. Brougham)
understood that h:s lion. Friend made • note of that part of the
Right Hon. Gentleman's speech it the time when It wan deliveaed,
and that he crossed over to the opposite side of the House;'showed
the note to the Right lion. Gentleman w4dtais he. had taken, and
said " your calculation is so and so, and ate respect
to the Sinking Fund, he was devidedPflrf opirutt with Ids lion.
Friend that the system of raisirg money on loan: In aid of that
fund, was a delusion on the public as to its applicability for the
purposes for which it was formed. He was. however, happy
to find that he also on this orea-ion agreed with the Right
Honourable Gentleman as well as his ll'aiourahle Friend, for
the former had admitted that night that the Sinking Fut.d was
at a discount. (Hear.) A similar objection had been taken by
e Righ• lion. Gmtleinnn as to his Hon. Friend's observations on
the way in which the amounts were kept ; but so far from his lion.
Friend having hid any charge against the Right Hon. Gentleman
on that head, he had distinctly said that the Right Hon. Gentle-
man hail occasioned those docitments to be prepared in a way that
reflected the highest credit. He (Mr. Brougham) Could not eon.
ceive why, because there were n greater number of figurea—as, foe
instance, thousands instead of humorede, and millions insteol,of
thousands—the public accounts should not be rendered as perfectly
intelligible as those of any private person, as was the case in
France and other places can the Continent. With respect to tax-
ation, he agreed with the Right Hon. Gentleman, and differed with
his Hon. Friend. That was, he entirely concurred with his Him.
I Friend's printed paper, but differed with his sweet. Three years
ago he (Mr. Brougham) had nsaved a similar renobition—that
thought there was a nominal diminution of 27,0A0,000/., still as
69.000.0001.-was mod in a depreciated currency. when the market
price of gold was M. and the Mint price only 31. 17s. 101, making
a depreciation of 25 per cent. upon the larger and 20 per cent. on
the smaller sum ; if, therefore, the amount was taken at 52
millions, instead of there being a diminution of 27 millions. there
was only, in point of fact, a reduction of one million and a half;
and that was a circumstance upon which there could be no doubt.
for It was a matter of common arithmetic. Rut while he agreed with
his Honourable Friend on that point, he also agreed with
the Right Honourable Gentleman, that as seven or eight
millions of taxation was taken off, it was clear that if the
revenue still realized the same amount u before, that it was
at the discretion of the purcheur ; because, if it was taken upon
wine, and that two bottles paid only the duty that one did before,
then the choice of paying that ditty fell upon the consumer, if he
chose to consume the quantity of wine that paid the former amount
of duty. He was compelled to differ with the Right Honournble
Gentleman on the subject of consumption. It was admitted
that the population, since 1785, hail increased forty per cent.,
but the ennimniption had not increased in the same ratio.—
In the article of malt, which was one which might fairly be taken
as a test of his argument, on an average of years ending 1785, the
consumption was 2:1•1 millions; and for a under average ending
1821, it wits only 25) millions. So that instead of there being an
increase of 43 per cent., there was an actual diminution of one per
cent. That was a very striking fact, and, if the documents-were
correct, proved a very unforturate one, as connected with
'the happiness and condition of the people. The Honourable
and Learned Gentleman then went through the same inquiry
as to spirits aml sugar, and stated the former to have diminished,
while the latter had a li=the increased in consumption. Ile then
went into the subject of the increase of crime, and stated that he
had been staggered at first by the documents on tism,bead. but on.
reference he found that the averages had not been taken at a fair
period, inasmuch as they combined the period of the discharge of
the army and navy after the battle of %Vaterlon; and, therefore,
did not militate against the thoroughly received opinion of the ad-
vantages that had resulted from education in that respect. The
Hon. and Leemed Gentleman concluded by stating his intention to
vote for the tarty-seven resolutions of his Hon. Friend. and urged
the propriety of reduction in every department of the expenditure,
so that they might meet their Constituents at the approaching elec.
tion, with the consciousness of hitting done their duty.
Sir. 3IABERLY said, that the statement of his Honourable
Friend was fully borne out ; for that the Right lion. Gentleman
had not in the accounts put any valuation on the dead weight and
other annuities ; and that he was prepared to show, front a paper
which he held in his hand, which he valuelks much as he did the
opinion of his Right Honourable Friend himself. It was evident
from the official document laid before Parliamenti that the national
debt had increased from 822,000,0401. in the year 1812, to the sum
of 893,000,000/. In the year 1826. The charge on the debt had also
increased 130,000!. The object of his Hon. Friend was to show
the country derived no benefit front the Sinking Fund, and in his
(Mr. Alaberly's) opinion, he had established that proposition. The
Right lion. Gent. opposite had said that he was always anxious
to avail himself of any useful suggestions which might be thrown
out from any quarter of the House ; but he must nay that it was only
last year he had succeeded in oionining a balance-sheet to be made
out for Parliament, although lie had been calling for it for many
years; and he begged then to make another suggestion, which was,
that a Committee should be appointed early in the next Session,
to examine into the way in which the public accounts are kept.
Mr. ROBERTSON rose monist amidst cries of " Question,"
which rendered the lion. Member inaudible for some time, wa
understood hint to say that the Resolutions proposed to the
House had no tendency to relieve the distress of the peoole,
and he thought that the Hon. Slaver could not succeed with:his
propositions, without breaking faith with the public creditor.
(Here again the cries of 66 question" were repeated.) lie main-
tained that the Sinking Fund had been of great service before 1793,
and even to a certain extent at the present time. (The House again
manifested great impatience, and the Hon. Member moved an ad-
journment, but, as no Member appeared to second it, the question
was not put from the Chair.)
111 r. HU3IE wished to disclaim any intention of making any
personal allusion to the Right Honourable the Chancellor of the
Exchequer. Ile thought the public burdens might he les-
sened at least 10,000,000/. annually. The civil and military esta-
blishments might be reduced to the extent of five millions and a
half. lie thought the expenses of an Ambassador In France, which
amounted to 30,0001 might well be spared at the present time.
lie wished to remind/ the House of the Address which had been
presented to the Crown in 1821. That resolution had the effect
within a week of effecting a reduc:lon of the public burdens, and
he was anxious to press the present resolutions upon the attention
of the House.
. . . .

The House then divided, when there appeared
For Mr. Hume's motion, bi ; Against it, 152—Majority, 101.
The other Orders of the Day acre then disposa of, and the
House adjourned at HALF. FAST ONE O'CLOCK.

DEATH Or CAPTAIN COOK.—We extract the following
account of the death of Captain Cook, as given by the in-
habitants of Owyhee. It is taken from an interesting
work by a Missionary of the Sandwich Islands, who has
recently published a Narrative of a Tour to Olv.9bee:—
" The foreigner (say they) was not to blame; for in the first in.
stance, our people stole his boat, and he, in order to recover it, de.
signed to take our King on board his ship. and detain him there till
it should be restored. Kapena Kuke (Captain Cook's name is
thwi pronounced by the natives) and Taratupu, our King, were walk-
ing togriter towards the rhore, when our people. conscious of what
had been done, thronged round the King. anti objected to his going
any further. His wife also joined her entreaties that he would not
go on board the 'Wits. While he was hesitating, a man came run-
ning from the other side of the bay, entered the crowd almost
breathless, and exclaimed, ' It is war I the foreigners have coin-
meneed hostilities, have tired on a canoe from one of their boats,
and killed a chief.' This enraged some of our people, anti alarmed
the Chiefs, as they feared Captain Cook would kill the King. The
people armed themselves with storms, clubs, and spears. Kimono
entreated her husband not to go. The Chiefs did tint same. The
King set down. The Captain seemed agitated, and was walking
towards his boat, when one of our men attacked him with a spear ;
he turned, and whit a douhle-barrelled gun shot the man who
struck him. Some of our people then threw stones at him, which
being seen by' his men, they tired on us. ('apt sin Cook then en-
deavoured to amp bin men from firing, but could not on account of
the noise. He was turning again to speak to its, when he was
stabbed in the hick with a palm ; a spear was at the same limp
driven through his body ; he fell into the outer, and spoke no
more. After he was deed we all wailed. His bones were sepa-
rued, the flesh was scraped off and burnt, as was the practice in
regard to our own Chiefs when they died. We thought he was the
'god Rono. worshipped him as such, and after his death reverenced
his bones."
Ent tanugort, May I.—Last week, a woman residing
near Newburgh, was accidentally killed with an ale, while gather.
ing some wood which her brother was cutting for fuel. The head
of the axe which he was using happening to be loose, started from
the shaft, struck her on the head, and caused almost instant death.

Ette iarttfOlt tireoo.

KING'S THEATRE.
TO-MORROW EVENING win, to perforated iforiachPa Opera Serie
in Two Acta,
TERALOO E ISOLINA.
The principal Character by Nfatlemei.eile liontnl, Madame
Signor Veilnil, Slfmor,Coirlonl, Signor Devl:le, Si for Porto.
Atter the Opera the favourite Rolla of
LE RAI. CRANIPF.I ni:.
•e• A Masquerade I. In preparation for Monday, the 16th Inn!.
Appllcationi. &e. es usual.

ortvitf-LANETHEATRE.
Tide Evening, FRIDAY, May E. will be perforated (6th time) the
Grand Romentle Op_era, called
AIADDIff.

The prlnclpal Characters bilioss----rs.iliseladr, Horn, Browne, Bedford,
O. Smith, and Harley ; Hisses Stephens, Cubltt, and Posey ; hire. I)atl-
von, and a young Lady.

To Conclude with the Melo-Mania of
ELLA ROSENBERG.

Rosenberg. Mr. Penley ; Sto;;, 151;.1)o;t7nTilutterman. Mr. Tayleure.
Elk Rosenberg, MISS Kelly; Christine, Miss 1. Paton.

COVENT-GARDEN THEATRE.
This Evening, FRIDAY, May 5, will be performed the Grand
Romantic and Fairy Opera of
OBERON $ Cr. THE ELF-KING'S OATH.
The principal Characters by Messrs. Brahma, Cooper, Romer, C.
Blntui, J. Isaacs, and Raker; Misses Padua, H. Caine; Madame Vets-
iris, Mrs. Vining, and Mrs. Davenport.

To conclude with the Farce of
_ !LAMING THE WIND.

Jenny Midler, Mr. loan; Plalaway, Mr. Blanchard; talnwou'd,
Mr. Mealows ' • Baal, Mr. Evans. Lamella Durable, Mn. Lavenport
Peggy, Mks Lore.

sADLEft's WELLS.

Thle Evening, FRIDAY, Mays, will be performed the Comic Romance of
THE ENCHANTED OIRDLES ;
OR, WINES TEE wirer' AND THE LADIES Or lAYARCAHD.
Amine, Wm. Fltzwllliam.
After which the Comic Ilteto-Dratosele Barletta of
THE MAN AND THE MARQUIS;
OR, THE THREE SPECTRES OR THE CASTLE OF ST. VALOR!.
With the Comic Sketch of
TRICK FOR TRICK ;
nit, THE VALET AND Till LADY'S HAIR.
Brag, Hr. Williams ; Lucy, Mrs. Eltewilliam.
To conclude with the Locil Sketch of
CHUNEELAH ;
OR, THE DEATH 01 TIIR ELEPHANT AT [TETER CHANGE.

The]Sarrtsg PIIESS commenced publishing yesterday morn-
ing Si fire o'clock.

LONDON, FRIDAY, MAY .5, 1130.

The accounts in the Etoile of Wednesday assert that
Russia has proposed to treat with Turkey bj, Comtnis-
sioners, and has given the Porte six weeks to consider of
her ultimatum, in which she is supported by Wistersw,
an envoy sent by Austria for that purpose. The reports
from Greece continue favourable, if they can be depended
upon. An English motel from Malta is reported to have
met the Greek fleet, which had obtained a victory over the
Egyptians. This, it is said, has been the cause of its delay.
The Indirateur of Bordeaux says, that the " misery
has been so great in Spain, that it has driven a Cure and
all his parishioners to rob on the highway." A memorial
has been addressed to FERDINAND from Catalonia, com-
plaining of the distressed state of commerce in consequence
of the Colombian privateers on the coast.
By a letter from Lisbon of the 15th April, we are again
assured that the deputation to Brazil is not to sail on ac-
count of the war in that country. An English General is
spoken of as about to take the command of the Portuguese.
We subjoin an extract from a French Ministerial Paper
relative to the cordon sanitairc.

The Chamber of Deputies was occupied on the Ist May
in discussing the budget of 1827. We learn from Nismcs
that the recent disturbance there caused the death of the
bride's aunt (a Catholic), whom the Cure refused to inter
in consecrated ground. She was buried in the Protestant
burying-ground.