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lest mmesati jraftieti.-(sa /Mid loath fres Mt I
(*Poising 04. tries et I`4l,en -hoses/-Hu
really cool*, but are what there mono very ludis
roles in the observation. He contended. that if that
Msbleutan wished for redrew, •bri ItlMPhitivegisiti at
law; for by laying his hands on Oim. the Macre
Fame within the meaning of "4/festas terposoit.",--
'Wear, hear, hear.)-11 the iatisfeeetaceUf thee mill.
wiry were necessary, 'tie asisrwr.of svy little inks
portsuce as I. whether the Illatatmetio were !lied lit
unfixed. The question then is, was the iskterfee '
rehee necessary and *heftier the Sheriff thorithto
necessary that wen a matter within his owes damn;
Lion; tor if the Sheriff thought it necessary to call
in the military, no men would say that he Awed
be entordered culpable for an error of judgment,
lie had to thank the House for their attention; he
thought it his deity to make this statement, and he
slwnlil consider himself a conned if be coerid be de-
terred by popular clamour from the honest per-
forinsnee of that Argr..fren the
Ministerial Beaches )
Sir Joan NEWPORT said, that a Petition had
been prevented to that House,. complaintog of a
grievance, and he quite agreed with the Gentle-
men opposite that the people of Ireland acted wisely
in iiittasting View l'eiiton to the Noble Lord, for
a Petition in favour of the liberties orthe people
could not possibly be pl• Ced iii better hood. than
those of a desi•endani of the illustrious House of
Reauell.-(ilear. hear.)-11' the House now de-
chianti to interfere in a matter similar to that into
*Meth the Irish Parliament inquired, what would
be the natural inference? Why it would toed ta
increase cud quicken the hemmed feeling* of every
freeholder in [relent!, when he considers this' one
of the expiring acts of the corrupt Parliament of
Ireland had done an act in their favour, which is
now refused by the Imperial Parliusiew.--(Hear.).-.
It had b en stated by the Hon. Gentlienianoppo-
tete, that the police were called in a tone of "Mee
that resounded through the hail, sod did not attend
the eummous. Are they still in unite? Have they
been dismissed If they declined attending they
were the cause of the iniervent. of the auditory
amougst the deliberations of the people, a system
attach had been so ably and so justly assimadverted
se by the Right Ilou. Gentleman' opposite
Grant). If there were any one instance in which
the military ought Dot to act, it is thin. Wlutt
arconty has ans Jowl fur life that goes to a public
meeting while such proceedings are tolerated ?
Will any man expose himself to such danger ? The
invaluable right of petitioteing, one of the first and the
most intstimrble privileges of a free people, would
become an absolute nullsty.-(Haar.)-They had
had before the House of late repeated inentitties
of the misconduct of Sheri& in England ; they
had heard of their refusing to call meetings, and
refusing to put Resolution' at these meeting%
At Cheshire a few days ago there was a disturbance,
but no calling in of the military. And what
are die grounds alleged iii justification ? The
Sheriff says that alter this quahog' was put *he
dowahred the meeting, and the meethig "till
persevered and refused* to dispersed. Bat he
melt recollect it was held in a retain, not
in the open air, not prolsibiod by say of the
leta thecu:lumsi a Vallifeull this-eatne" mod a
Magistrate of the county in the eltare---(Hear,
hear)-and he would like to know by what atitho,
city the Sheriff presumed, under such circum-
stances, to call in the mildewy ? Did he reed the
Riot Act ?-( Load cheer:.)-He contended, until
he had done so. it was an open violation of the
Constitution. flinch importance had been munched
to the diecrepoucy of the different statements, with
with respect to the bayonets and muskets, but he
was not disposed to attach au much consequence to
it. • The lion. Gem-lemon opposite said, that as
theolficer had laid his hood on the Noble Chair-
man, that therefore he had his action at law. But
he would ask what redress was that to the griev-
ances of the country I High an opinion as lie en-
teraineel of the administration of justice and the
judicial functions, he must say, that he did not ap-
prove of that mode of seeking redress.
Mr. Dints BROWNE objected to the motion.
Sir JOHN SEBRIOHT stated that no man valued
more highly than lie did the right Of petitioning.
Subsequent to the memorable tiansactichir at Man-
cheater, which iii his opinion were much exagger-
ator& tie voted for restrictive measures on the
grounds of expediency, confident that the necessi-
ties of the tinier required them; but lie did not ex-
pect that after these enactment" Sheriffs would be
found to violate their duty in so gross and so no.
constitutional a manner. Ile oar happy to hear
the sentiments expressed by the Right Hon. *ere.
tory f-r Ireland; they were perfectly consistent
wilt all he had heard of his conduct in Ireland ;
hut he could not agree with I that this was nut
o question in winch the House should inteiferei.
He thought it was a qtrestion which they should
investigate to the very foinialation; end he thought
that if the Government gave any triposition to the
present itiliiire. it would create suspicion iii the
tuittgle of the people of both Ireland said Eughirid.
Mr. D. BATHURST observed, that the duty of
Sheriffs remained now precisely the same a. before
the late Acts we:e pa-sod, mid he thought the pre-
sent question should stood on it. own foundatton.
detached from any other coeriderstion whensoever.
I Ht perfectly @giro' thin if the officer laid hands
on the Chet. man he had his remedy to the Courts
of Law. But. says the Right Hou. .Baronet op-
posite (Sir .1. Newport). what redreimis than to the
country ? 1k (Mr. Bathurst) thought that thectnly
redress they minted. or could seek for, wet the
punisHmeut of the delitiqueut. The Flutiourobte
(Member for Kerr)) had alluded to a
censure prowl on • Sheriff try the Irieh Parlistnent,
.butect.rwirreuee loth, Jourtiels, he would.fine4 that
it/stead.of censure they pasted a vote of opprobeitton.
The fthgNt Herb. Gitattlemso read an extract frost
the Irish J,Jurnals us corroboration of his statement.
He t flearelontfiliouglit that while redrew eoulil bra
lead Markey the proper tribunal, tint Courts of 4tti-
sieu.the House were not telleitutoon to gotta-for.
• Mr. Mateasca iln.zolutrice explainni. Hardin
mit tag Ilia Slows at Commons in InelondlpaSised
vino of censure •oti the Shertff. All horreirl was,
end is was quite stafFsereat for Ina ergararrittviiaa
the iiimerriuslitatedva taquaryi
MT. J. P; GitasT 'ado Shut a rare" tidal aits.
petweelabiefur•Sist‘floslest relkith its. het oftruirrweeffs
ed for their most serious coosidetationv

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tko oiremeists ow the fireettemon SPlmito emouote
MP dint Mhal.harservirre'linnife. 14st-4n
i•Cdort of {,Nei llstinild the Mit.* inter.,
ffilie..."llTib lie diet not ken* What' woo the nit 'of
ket'floose; be had has Olwats tonight, thst rue
of it,' first and -moot essential deities ores to redeem
she intones of the .hearw,g,l*...7
of.We err not Art 'eattelitee what might ' At
tierstonif Ifs/MP 'sr 'PO *Mal iricouventeleies sus.
1;17•-tuned. bat what Is to be the car pith 'Urea&
if • Slwili essay, when he thinks proo
pottAlietierse the 'Wimple legally amenthleit. Ibis
now tent ter be a paiallel twee to that 'of ilic"Sliehlf
Of CfMster (on shiei lie *ould give ho .00ini;to):
bet this was a dispeisio* of a legal meeting .hy
9, military foam .Hiaiw. their conk' it he pot we
the foritiug of ,olset %%kit+, It had been 'mini .that tMs
wave gwevtion fit .Vhili'dbitnnisin 'in a Court of
Common Law; lint if that. Wrgitment were pnah-d
to the extreme limit, there. Would he an end to the
inquisitorial power oltheßouse or Conitihonss..
Mr. MARTIN thotight: dealt if the matter -Ire
referred to si • Conradstler, Wad **stinting that • the
Report of that Clebteittnerhould be as frvonrible
we the gentlelnen on tfirdlistr side cnnld wish, shied
the Committee aboukU,dittide that tha;gbertff had
been as guilty es teov .netted, the revolt would:ba
that s prostention Mesa -be-dtreeted, istul•eorelp
th.t Eliot take-piaet stithent wog tole' a CoM4
miller.
Mr. Peet. mid. that he bad been blamed by
ocotlemen who were ignorant of the mesenteries!"
of the country. for having recommended laws-of
great severity -for Ireland ; he had hitter cone..aled
from the Hoes...that theyoere-Severe, bat he hell
thought it right to glee extreme .trrngth to the
civil power, in order to diectionsge the • hiterfereare
of the isilrtaty.,--(Heer, hear.)—He m[[[ole, hitt
the worry that the Military were celled in, but he
still should 'vote irghinit the litotiOn he cootriirred
with the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. C. Grout)
in the propriety of his refine' socensere the Sheriff,
eis he theetriat it-extronseey introperto he ettotilana
atily mter*ring wrth 'zealot* officere in subordi-
nate situations i for the evil results or such a
i:Zer he could editddently appeal to the I ish
es of that House. Upon that principle it was
that houpproved of what the Irish Government had
done in the petered case. as he thought it would he
Much better to leave it to the dectoon of a Court
of Law. It seeined that it was uncertain whether
or slot any legit proceedings had or bad riot been
instituted ; if they hod, mid thelleosewhoold
Ornately ensue fo • different decision from the
Court of King'. ite..ch iu Ireland, it would be a
differeisce much to be regretted. The more glar-
ingly illegal the etordect of the Ugh Sheriff had
been (as the Right Hon. Baronet had endistvonred
to make it appear), the move he wits conviiic.cl of
the propriety of leaving the decision to a Court
or Lsw. It was not a question es to what ju•
risdirtion was best. for its fact for aught the
House knew to the contrary. both might he implied
to. Some of the Paitionems might hare recourse
Ton Court or Law, and others might apply to the
ileum of Common. The Cowrie in Ireland were
perfectly constieteut to try say vast sxmortitetiontel
troation, as esp.donee' 410*•whteiner%- -Itipsoft. rotas
ground taken by the Hon. Member for Roorrohet
Gentletneu, amiable and good men, acting under
the Senctioo of sit oath, as grand jurors, would not
discard their precoucrived notions. end tied accord-
ing to the evidence, on that ground. so defile.
tory to the trial by jetty. he never conl.l scquivii‘e,
stud he thought it was dropped by the Hoimuiable
Member un the warmth el debitte. rather thou as a
serious opinion.
Mr. C. GaAMT had heard from persons at Dub•
lin that there was no inittitiou to institute proceed-
ings there.
Sir JAYw MACIWITOIIIII soiol, that this was •
question which was not Irish or local, but whA
belonged to the *bole empire, as it affected
Constitution. A msestion involving • chino
against an Officer fur interfering with the ',acted
right of tonitioo.--at right for the violAtion of which
Royal Family were dethvoned—e right ehich our
ancestors had considered so Inspertaill, that to pre-
serve it a change was made in the succession to the
Crown—it was this right which the House of Com-
mons were called upon to vindicate that night.
There were two question* before the House : the
first, was it proper ur improper of the Irish Govern.
ment in refusing to interfere? eial secondly, what
was proper now to be done T On the first clues-
Mon he did not materally differ from the Right
Honourable Gentlemen, the Secretary for Ireland,
and his predecerom. though one of the reasons
given was a little singular, when contrasted with
the conduct of Ministers on another occasion. The
Right Hon. Geode's's,' had meted. that it would
be en unpleasant prOteerfing to have rerniived the
High Sheriff, even though the right to do as hid
been fully established. If that were true, what
could be thought of en Attiminietration who removed
• Nobleman of the highest rank. and one of the
most virtootte and respectable characters in the
kingdoot, from the government of a great county.
iu a manner which **old hare been considered
ungracious in o privets person to a menial ter•
vent, by a liararapli in se- petrinvieut new",
.paper. Why till that tenderbeilletowerds an officer
who hid repressed the eaprelnion of public opt.
Hiatt against his Majesty's Miniiters, while .a per-
son- of the highest character woo donsiised in the
rudest manlier becalm he lied horourfel the ed.
'Hesston of public opinion I—(flier.)—With regard

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to the vecoud qamtions be cwald Drat but Wee
with the Hon. Member ou the Sear. that. if all the
private wrong. for shied' another remedy might be
had,. when it also involved, tut injury ifinsist consti.
tut tonal right, were to be rgirreted by that House, threy
might es we I I abaadon their fuoctiousas grand inquest
of the kingdom. He ttllit med tbit if a violation ofeou-
stnutiutial right were to he pers'eturd. it beloaged to
the Howe of Commons; lbw wrongs which s Prtimie
person might siusiitio. it belonged to himself to get
retires.. .A, but or bet • ctiostitotioual wrimg was
eared an injury to -
that-comemourl itg
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duce which 0100 invOLVl'd on injury to Ni private
period; ihi rftlrtsi of thst-compouisst jijiuslice be-
longed to the Howse of Coinasous, fie wuuld go
silffarthrt, lit**Ylkl sflittit Wert Wards Irma rernedy
tut tittetwrouir. TtirPretielititlor thy Muird of Coir-
trolidlwiserdies theist %viva* faireof tthrethide ft of
dietCheirtir lot whit* is* 4riPtichtid.
411 A latisalt 'EP t4tioet nit
presiding :Seer' at a putilic ateditlabLiltie tfiVaWt