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IMPLKIAL PAKL/dMb•IT.

of Contuse:so' should have the power of guarding
their privileges by inflicting punishment on the
offender. He ;hen resumed—lt was., he said, im-
possible that the cave to whirl, Mr. Fax spoke, or
indeed any other case which ever came before •
Parliament, could be so sting as the one then
under their consideration. He would make much
allowance for the irritated feelings of a distressed
mechanic, who might be betrayed into an act of
indiscretion; he would make great allowances
for a conductor of the daily press, who might iii
the hurry of business be guilty of conduct which
in his cooler motored% hr would regret. Such a
man might br betrayed 11110 expressions which on
reflection he would wish, if possible, to withdraw
from publicity ; but he saw no apology for a deli-
berate act, ruches had been committed by the indi-
vidual in question ; lie had cooly and deliberately
given full currency and circulation to the sentiments
contained in the pamphlet. Such an individual was
Lam little N fe!el reusoise eteassitrition for his con-
duct. His object VIII terstirieeticer:' Tie eirasistesilwa,
Tingly acquiesce in the general feeling of the House
as to the mode of pumsloneot that might to he in-
flicted, but he felt it his duty to state the view he
had taken, and he would conclude by stating, that
for the purpose of laying a foundation for a farther
proceeding hr would move a Resolution, expressive
of the character of the publication. l'be Wei. and
Learned Gentleman then moved a Resolution to
the following effect :
" Resolved—That the said Pamphlet is a scandalous libel
eau the character of that House, containing matter calculi-
Sal to inflame the people lots acts of violence against the
authority of the Legislature, sad particularly against the
character of that House; and that it was a high breach
of
the privileges and a contempt of the authority of that
House." . . .

PENRYN BRIBERY BILL.
Sir Cowmen 11••••= moved the emend reading of
the Peery* Bribery Bill.
Sir Costeroouga Ilamotne appeard the Bill, hut i• es
very law a issue of voice as to be invertible M the gallery.
Mr C. Bottum. mid, that after evidence of bribery In
Peary's, in the Committee Nat Semiue, he thought it unueces-
eery to mi into particulars no that head. He was not MT-
prised that the Han. Baronet should, mg behalf of Ma eon.
ailments, ampere the Bill; but on weer fools tramtpired elate
the Report of the Committee to invalidate the evirlegme
gives on that UCIIOIOII.
?WWI was then read a mewl time.
BREACH OF PRIVILEGE.
Mr. CdUitTEN AT moved the Order of the Day,
that Robert Siodurt do attend et the bar of the
Hume.
Mr. ELLICS said, that in order to save the time
of the Howie. and to 'prevent any trouble or in-
convenience to the publisher of the pamphlet, the
ma .thor of dm publication in ,eation authorised
I ,to avow Ins ,nanw ; alit. at. that he his
relay to obey the ordesis of thati sic The author
was a friend of his-.-bis mime was John Cain Hob-
house.
Mr. COURTEII AT said. that notwithstanding the
avowal of the author, it was yet necessary in point
of regularity that she publisher should at least ap-
pear tit the bar, to alien that he obeyed the order of
the House.
Mr. Storied was then called in. and examined.
The Seesseo—What is your matte!—Robert Stodge..
The Sreages—Look at that pamphlet, and state to the
Home whether it was published by yew ?—(Witsess having
looked at the pamphlet)-1t was.
The SPEAR rat—Do you know the author of it !—I do.
The sersata—state the MIN of the slither?—Mr. Hob-
house is the author.
The Sramt sa—State his Christian same ?—Winess said
he did not distimtly bear the question, a be was somewhat
deOf.—(lfear, bear.)
The Speak Ell--Stftte at length the name of the author ?
His name is John Cam Hublionse.
The SPICAILICR,..YOU may withdraw.
After the witness withdrew—
Mr. Cocitirtx sir said, after what had passed. it
was not his intention to visit the printer or puts.
usher with any punishment whatever. He would
therefore move--
141, That Mr. Studart be discharged; and
illy, That John Cam 11ohloinuse should attend at the bar
of that House lomsurruw (this slay).
Mr. Ettics said, that Mr. Hobbouse was not in
town. lie left town to see his father, who was ex•
trentely ill ; but he would attend the order of that
House.
Mr. COVRTEXAY said, he had no wish but to
afford Mr. llobhoure every reasonable accommoda-
tion ; but, as the Hon. Gentleman opposite said lie
would attend to-morrow, lie would move, that Mr.
Hubliouse should attend accordingly.
Mr. TIERNEY said. he would wish the Hon. and
Learned Gentleman would state, for what purpose
Mr. liofihouse should attend et the bar?
The SPEASII• said, lie thought the Hon. and
Learned Member (Mr. Courtenay) understood the
situation of the publisher : he was not in custody,
and therefore it was unnecessary to move fur his
ilitcharge. As to the attendance of Mr. Hubhouse,
if the I louse had the fact merely from the publisher
that Mr. !clubhouse was the author, then the regu-
lar course would be, to order Mr. Hobbouse to
attend, because he might be able to thaw that the
evidence of the publisher was given in mistake, and
that he was not the author; but when there was a
declaration from ass Hon. Member of that House,
speaking in the name of Mr. Hobbouse, and avowing
that he was the author of the publication, it was
not necessary to order that Mr. Hobhouse should
attend nit the bar.
Mr. COURTENAT said, that the Speaker having
shown that it was not necessary for him to make the
motion for the attendance of Mr. Hobhouse, he
would now 'proceed to state the nature of the view
which he took of the matter, and the nature of the
proceedings which the House *tumid take on the
present consideration. He had no hesitation in
raying, that lie had given the subject his most
animus ron.ideratiou, and be was sure his Hon.
and Learned Friend opposite would agree with
him its the conclusion Lie had formed, which was,
that the punishment of the offence should he left
in the hands of the hlouse. Upon the authority
of that !louse, and upon their power to inflict
punishment on individuals for the breach of their
privileges, he would not argue—lie believed there
wits but one Member of that !louse disposed to
(ideation their power. He would, therefore, merely
read a Ire passages from a Report of a Committee
of that House on a question affecting their pri-
vileges, which appeared to him to sum up all the
arguments on the point in a forcible, setisfactory,
and conclusive manner. The Report concluded
the observations of the Committee, by saying, that
the power of Pm hartient to commit per-oat for the
breads of their orivilegel was a part of the imolai.
meutal law of Parliament, and the law of l'ar-
liamesit was the law of the land ; the exercise of
that power did not therefore infringe even on
Magna Chortu, which stated, that it was nut bolo,
to send any freeman to prison contrary to the laws
of the land. The power of the House was there-
fore, as it was right and expedient—it was proved
by iminemorial usage, and sinictioned by the highest
legislative authority, it was the law of the land—
exercised to preserve the rights and liberties of the
subject. Upon this subject, said the lion. Member,
the opinious of men of great weight and import-
ance were well known—without fatiguing the
Ileum with is repetition of names, lie would merely
quote the authority of Mr. Fox upon a questinn of
this .salute. Ile said, thut though a sincere friend
to the liberty of the press, lie yet thought that
for is gross breach of their privileges the offender
should nut escape with impunity. Soma allusion,
said Mr. Fox, had been made, as to a pstwevutiiiii
by the At ttttt my-General, and it was said that
committiog the individual was not the just mode of
preceding, but it was its the power of all the
Court' of Jii.tice to commit persons for a contempt
of Court, and he wetild not take that pewter out of
the 111111110 of the House of Cominone. The Hon.
Member went on to read the extract from Mr. Fox's
speech, which stated in substance, that the House

were; that the Speaker should issue his warrants ac-
cordingly : noir of those warrants would be to Moe
Serjeant at AMR, to table the tridividual into coo-
Indy ; the other to the gaoler of Nevigete, to keep
him in confinement, whet• delivered up by the
Seri-aid at Arms.
Sir C. fluattEht. said, the gaoler would haveato
tight to receive *lw person of slit Prosimer.—(Here
the worthy Baronet wse rolled to order.)
The SEMA Kra said, Its must hare hero misunder-
stood by the Hum Btronet. He then repeated toe
observations lie had oresinusly made. end cow-
eluded by mying, that if the gaoler refused tear-
ceive Mr. Hohliouse, such refu►al would be treated
as a grow c,,iitenipt of that House.
Sir C. Bunant.t. sold, shut bowing us he did OS
the authority of the Chair, be would may AI&
I.li. to a fact stated by au !lon. Friend of his (Mr.
Ellice), it was, ilt.it in Neagate there was no ac-
commodation, sod if Mr. Flobliouse was sent 1•
that prison Ire ahookl necessarily be
edwisearagilowigisiehut- "
would not

HOUSE OF LORDS, MeNnair, Dsc►usstt IS.

The Earl of CLARTNDON tuttk the nutlet and hie seat.
Mr. Ru!luek, from the l'ieoeury,,hrougikr up voreral as.
counts relniung to Ay slate of the Herring Sawn us the
mothers, ewisin..-I,aid ON the table '1
Mr. Prrkkoinse broanbt up tkehcifteeilih Repurt s tb•
Carratne Coannorniouers..—laid netlike intik.

MESSAGE FROM THIS COMMONS.
Mr. 8..4:de0 and others from the Rothe of Cometteote,
helot Wit up the Malt Duty Bill, to sehieb they desired foie
Lordship. euncorrener.—The Bill wee mil $ fret Itemised
ordered for • mood reeding.
81L OFFICIO INFORMATIONS.
. The LORD Cnattcrt.t.oft moved the third fad-
ing of the Hill for expeaitiog the tnals of anado.
mesiims. This being dour, the Nubia ..4
Learii.d Lord proposed a chant far the adtfieller

c•iia.4;des•
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bled effyficio, which he hoped would prove sans-
factory. In traminv, this douse, he *toted that he
observed am closely as the circumstances of the case
would permit, the analogy of the law as it re-
spected what were called private prosecutors. In
preside prosecutions, if the case were not brought
to trial with convenient diligence on the part of the
prosecutor, the defendant was authorised to briag
the record to trial ; the clause. therefore, which he
now proposed, declared that if the Attorney-Gene-
ral did not within the space of twelve month, after
plea of 4, Not Guilty" being pleaded proceed to
trial, the defenchnit may give twenty days notice to
the Attorney or Solicitor-General, and the Court
shall moke an order authorising the defendant to
bring on the trial. In such a case, if the Attorney
or Solicitor-General do not proceed to trial, the
defendant shall of coarse be acquitted. Such was
j the oulndonce of the clause which be now moved

. entifine him to a dangena.
The SPUMES& asked, whether the Hop. Member
intended to move an gmendinelit
Ssr CHARLES BURRELL said, that baking ihe
should receive the support of the Home, he mild
move, a• an amendment, that he be committed to

the custody of the Serjeant at Arms.
Mr. am:a seconded the amendment.

Mr. COURTENAY was actuated by no other feel-
ing than a wish to perform his duty. and to do so
in a manner the least unpleasant to the individual
to be affected by it.. He had too wish whatever
that the individual should he exposed to any seve-
rity winch could be avoided. nor that he ihoold ibe
ridCrd hi • prison which 1V,14 unlit to nffurd him
accoinctiodation.—( lear.)—lfe had not the least
objection to the Amendment, if it were the general

The Resolotion was put and curried, with the
exception of one single voice, which we understood
to be that of Sir Francis Burdett.
Mr. COURTEN•Y then moved a Resolution to
the following effect :
"Resolved—That Juho Cam Hubbouse having acknow-
ledged hiamelf to be oho author of the said Pamphlet, is
guilty of a high contempt of that House, and that Ischia
bees guilty of a high brcaeltuf the privileges, and of a con.
temps of the authority of that House."
This Resolution was put and carried, precisely
in the same manner as the former.
Mr. COURTENAY—That, without deciding on
the place where Mr. Hobliouse should be confined,
to abide the ultimate punishment, lie would
move That the said John Cant Hobhouse, for the
said offence, be committed to the custody of the
Serjeosit at Arms"—wheilier lie Should be confined
in Newgate, or any other place, would be the sub-
ject of a subsequent motion.
Mr. BRourixAst said, that before the motion
was put, he would ask the Hon. and Learned
Member, whether it was necessary, under present
circuenstatices, to take the intermediate step of
committing Mr. Hoblionse so the custody of the
Serjesint tit Arms That proceeding would be
productive of delay, by having Mr. Whitmire
brought to the bar of the House, and it would
operate*. a double punishment, by subjecting him
to the payment of heavy hers. lle uuuld beg the
attention of the House so a eircunistmice stated by
au Hon. Friend behind 16.11 (Mr. Ellice.) It
was stated that Mr. 1101)1100Se Was at that moment
in the act of performing an office of filial piety—
he was in the net of attending loos father, who was
in an extremely slangerou, state of health, and that
he went to see him previous to being subjected to
the punishment of that House. The House would
then proceed to guard their privileges, and he for
one approved of the mode of proceeding they had
taken, fur he would not wish to see a question
affecting their privileges sent to be tried before any
other tribunal ; but at the same time they would
not deprive Mr. Hobhouse of the opportunity of
seeing his. father.
Mr. COURTENAY said, that he had felt it to be
the more regular and ordinary course to move, in
the first instance, that Mr. Hohhouse should be
committed to Newgate, but an Hon. Friend of his
(Mr. Edict-) load come over to that side of the
House and suggested, as a matter of favour to
Mr. Hilbhouse, the course which hurl been taken.
He had therefore worded his motion fur the con-
venience of the individual, and not for the purpose
of eggravating his punishment. But he had stow
no alterative left Imo, he would, therefore, move
that John Cain Ilobliouse be committed to New-
gate.
Mr. BROUGHAM explained. it woe, he said, im-
possible fur hint to think that Mr. llobliouse could
wish to be to& n into the custody of the Serjeatit at
Arms, and by that memo to subject himself to two
sorts of punishment.
Mr. Ei.t.ica svowerl that it was at his suggestion,
the Hon. Member framed his motion. He under-
stood that Newgate wart so crowded that it was im-
possible fur Mr. Hebhonse to get any aecomnsoda-
tion, and if lie were committed, lie would be confined
in a cell with convicted felon% lie was not aware
that by being taken into the custody of the Ser.
jestit at Arms, he would he subject to additional
punishment, in the shape of fine•or fees.
Mr. %VYNN doubted the regularity of the motion
for cominitting Mr. 11, blinuse, in the first instance,
to Newgate. The only person that was to execute
their order was Ilse Serjealot at Arms, or their offi-
cers. Ile d,rl toot apprehend that it was a itecessary
consequence, that Mr. Hoolohouse should be brought
to the bar, the Serjcant walk' report to the House
that he was in custody, and then they might move
for his committal to Newgate. Such was the case
of General Clavering, the Serjeant at Arms report-
ed that he had hips to eUitolly, and he wasthen COM.
milted to Newgate.
The SPEAKER said there could be no doubt but
that the Howe might order to have the individual
directly committed to Newgate. He apprehended
that the reason a double motion was made was, that
the individual was nut known to the Hoare, and it
was necessary in the first instance for the House to
know where he was, cur how he could be found, or
whether he could he found at all; hut in the present
ease, there was no such difficulty; the usual words

feeling of the Muse to adopt it.
Sir C. BURRELL said, his only object in pro-
posing the Amendment was to obviate the Meoo-
venience to which Al r. flohhouse would be exposed,
if he were sent to Newgate in the present •late of

should be rend.
Lord HOLLAND hoped the House would excave
him if he should rise to mike his pruomil acknow-
ledgments to the Noble and Learned Lord, for the
clause which he had submitted to their consider-
ation. The clause went as far as any thing
which he (Lord Holland) could suggest, and Clr
vied its object into effect in a much better manner.
He could not say that the clause had indeed done
all which he could have desired, hut it did much
more than he hod ever expected. This and
an-
other clause which the Noble Lord had introduced,
had Oft cted an improvement so material in the
entire Bill, that he did not deny that the measure
would effect a very considerable improvement in
the law of the country; he therefore should for pose
say content to the motion for passing the Bill.
The clause was thee read. and the Bill was
passed and ordered to be sent to the Commons.

that gaol, cis described to the House.
Mr. COURTEIs sir was perfectly anxious to meet
the general wish of the House.
Mr. Alderman Woow said, that in consecrerce
Of oliat had been sweet respecting the snootier its
which Newgate was crowded, lie felt it right to
mention, in corrotntration of that stutemeut, that
really the prison was in such a condition it would
Ise perfectly impossible to give Mr. Hobhouse that
separate accommodation to which a Geuileinan of
his condition might be considered entitled. There
were now 300 prisoners ice Newgate. and the crowd-
ed state rendered it impossible to admit of any se-
parate accommodation oh the spur of the occasion.
Notwithstanding this. however. some accommo-
dation may be afforded if notice of a dry or tura
were given, and 1w (the worthy Alderman) would use
his personal Albs to to procure the necessary accom-
ntoda t i 111 l fur a gentleman in Mr. Hobhowe's situ*.
tion. This might be done in a part of the build-
ing which the Law Officers had held was within
the prison—(we presume the keeper's hottse.)-11
short time were given lie 'lipoid endeavour to see
if some arrangraitent could not be. nisei* to provide
the necessary accollituucletion which the t Mutt of
the case demanded.
Mr. Doocnae lilNNStato begged leave to sat,
he was the last man ite that House, who would pro-
pose any to3grevittion of punishment upon any Md.-
videtal who limy hive fallen under their animadver-
sion; but haviog uncoiled there when inelividuois
in humble circumstances were. for offences sect
greater than that now imputed to the individual.
committed to Neivgate, lie knew tiot how, in fn rileas
or even-handed justice, they could adopt a different
course for the rich, than that which they bad al-
ready applied to the poor.—(/)ear, hear.)-11 they
proceeded in this case in • different manner flocs
that which they 'snowed in former Casts, It Wight
he imputed to the House, that they were afraid ii.
deal with the individual and the arctice in the
manner they had dealt with others on 'Previous oc-
casions. If the prison of Neergate was to the state
in which it had been described, it was .1 reason why
others should not have been sent there, while it re-
mained in ouch a crowded state. But the law aced
custom of l'orliomeist ought to make no distiticiiQu
of persona—the only distinction should be between
the nature and elisoacter of the crime. If any per-
sons who hail been committed applied for iriOol.3l
on the ground of ill health, he thought suvli act op-
placation ought to be sereLteLl to. S r than
wish to have the amendment adopted, lw shoots/
rather get rid of !he whole motion, acid have a pro-
preatio
C/n ordered by the Attorney-General.—((.'vas
No.")—H .eh not mean to fay lieut such a
room would inert his epprobation. but it wields
he thought, lie better then the other.
Sir F. Iltittocrr raid, that lie had witnessed
many acts of iiejtestice committed in that !loupe, air
support of what were called their privileges, that he
was not surprised at the course they now seemed
disposed to take.—(Cries of " Order !")
The SPEAKER said he was sure the Honourable
Baronet moult on reflection be convinc,ed that it
would be roue unparlianweitary in hien, while
sitting in that Chair. to suffer such expression% to
be used without immediately requesting an expla-
nation front the Member who had thought proper
to use them.—/Hear, hear.)
Str F. BURDETT resumed, end said that lie was
always reedy, whenever he was contolered.to nate
outstrpped the rules of the House, to qualify or
explain away any, as in this tustatice, umistentionul
violation of strict rule.—(Hear, hear.)—He would
proceed to express his opinion that the modo adopted
towards the individnal. in the present instance, was
one which imposed extreme harrislap. In the first
place, he did not think the Home had,given the
pamphlet the consideration which they ought. He
had looked it over since he came into the. House
this tight, acid however gross was time latsgasge of
particular passage% and he did not Mein) to defend
it, he should still deny the inferences which were
drawn front theme It was itapated tat this author

MISREPRESENTATION
Earl GROSVENOR rose and assured the House.
that no one could be less disposed than he was to
complain of the practice of reporting the proceed-
iogs in Parliament, for he was convinced that giv-
ing publicity to them was one of the most effectual
means of preventing any immediate or rudders
stretch of authority. As little was he disposed to
complain of any error or misrepresentation which
affected himself. and far should be now be from
drawing their Lordships' attention to this matter,
had he not been grossly and scasidalourly misrepre-
sented on a very delicate subject, wherein be should
be most unwilling to be inisunderrtood. Had
the representation been of a general nature, had it
related to some I ttttt ciple contained in the observa-
tions he might have addressed to their Lordships,
he should nut have taken such notice of it, evert
had lie been misrepresented teu times as much lib
the paper of which he had to complain was in the
habit of doing. The statement to which he allud-
ed was contained in a Newspaper culled The Cou-
rier, in which lie utss made to reflect severely upon
the conduct of a night Reverend prelate, the
Bishop of L lon. If ally of the Noble Lords now
present hail door bites the honour of noticing what
had fallen from hint on that occasion, they might
probably retni tuber that so far was lie from ex-
pressing soy censure that Right Reverend
Prelate, lie had actually gone out of his way to eu-
logire him.—(fries of Ilear, heur.)--lie had
called him the honour and pride of the bench Oil
which he sat. Upon this point he should trouble
the House no further.
There however was smother subject to which he
would for an instant call their attention. He h4d
frequently addressed their Lordships upon the sub-
ject of Reverstoilary Places, and was rerolved an-
usually to bring it before the House. Ile held in
bus hand two motions, which bring the precise tran-
scripts of those he had submitted to the House in
the preceding Sessiott, lie thought lie might move
without notice. They were fur accounts *hewing
the number of ',liters granted in reversion. from the
Ist of January, 1819, to the latest period to which
the account* took lir made up.
[This we gel eve to be the substance of the ion-
firm, but it wits read in 30 low a toot of voice, that
it was quite impossible to catch its import accu-
rately below the Isar.]
The motion was granted. and the House ad-
journed.

HOUSE OF COMMONS, MONDAY, Mem= 13.

INSOLVENT DEBTORS.
Lord ALTIIORP gsve notice that hr would move' Op
Wednesday next, for leave to b. itig to a Bill for the relief of
ltwolveut Detours.
Mr. L. Feta ER 'postponed a motion of an Hon. Friend of
his, relative to the Irish !mien Board, which stood for to.enur-
rOW,lo Wednesday 'text.
Mr. Alderman WOOD gave notice that he would to-morrow
move for leave to bring in a Bolt fur the tsetter employiug ui
the Poor in Ireland.

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MALT DUTY BILL.
On theme of Mr. Luettotoins, the Malt Duly Bill
was read a thud hate, and rme.ed.
COTTON MANUFACTORY AMENDMENT BILL.
On the motion of Sir Rumour Pert., the Hutrac..remilerd
itself into • Committee nri the Cittu• Factory Amendment
Dill.—The Donee resumed, and the Report was ordered to
be received tu•uwtruw,