The British Press; or, Morning Literary Advertiser.
London, England, 1822-02-23 00:00:00

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the, bid ;Measly mot 1,. trap. tistlamf@sl would
rest a =alias more to eisaipkiek tlptigh. S i Apslirty
sof It owl of as dosbtfol • . maws shut AN!, peruses
thansht the *We .1 the. swag ihe thrown sway*
Ile whole speech of the Hue. emetellemla Mt
*ow the Howe away frees dm nal Meets, sad sseeld eh”
sort that mit one of his statemeats bed hots sausemai. lid
wanted me espeeme: het whin prewisisms had Mb.
per real. be/asked to how why Mots WOO • hi itself a
per mat. la eiciaalliag the navy' From the fat maloedles
tins which kr had nwdeed OM NOS, he should have
set doses, held he est a imsesetimiese s bower
whoa a statessest of his was NM MI Imoattren, sad lllP4bati
erodes's' the paper deed Waits veep pewee whimmebas
dkted bias. In 1791 des, erapptp Toe In is 1401111.0.111
steed of 3,800,0001. as Ma Illes.fbeat. stela" f semi
she debt which he bad talked abeet it did stet mem=
milti.aL He (Mr. Hama wpb! Weil there was • Idadder
respeetiag the Paymaster, bet that asses from Om emlimiem
of the seemars. The Hon. Gent. had tressed them with the
Id edifies of his plane of meal mare; every sae *desisted
she weeks of Karl Bs. Violent as& the other gallant Alarm
bat be mold mst tee what hoed of anion was masted, rake
the Gemini sal at the Beard of Admiralty, mod mem saw
his corps oe had any ronoesisi with it. To talk of that as
a hoed of seine was so blink to common sense. The Hos.
Meinfm emeloded by.propesik as so Aseesdmeal to dr
"That the Speaker leave dee Chair," 1.• that them
be laid before the House a retina of the price of prerriaimse
'replied to the Miry Is 1917 and 1921, with the amount of
the whole ratios fee me day, amid also the snspeer in which
the rethink/ enteant for 1 I. to be *speeded!
Mr. CROKE' explained' that the two @opposed Isamu.
rides la die re ems from the Admiralty Ofire—the pm es.
'pettier ilk supply voted la 1792, sass from the Honour.
able Member %Wag pt all that he asked for, sad no awe,
though be hid used it as if it were Ireton, of abide as
vii xpeediture for that year, which was one se4llioe more
than the estimate, and was • as be bad stated, borrowed
from other services. The blander, therefore, was, She Hon.
Member'., sod sot the task of the retinas. The other
was a similar mistake, thumb in • mower, direetioa. Tbe
Hoe. Member bed asked he • refute of ill. isle& marine
ewes—those estimates were Iseioded,seeording to his order,
eat dee bit resephuies at beta( led Sete mistake, bemuse be
meld bed pert of that isbuisatiott in other doroMents.
After • dm winds from GI. DAVIES ant Mr. CROKE'',
the Mom divided, WIMPS them appeared—
For Mr. Homes Ameodsmat b4

Almost at
MajorNy lO4
Sir JOHN OSIMITN owed. that SLOW seamen be
voted, incloding 8,000 marten, for thereon, year.
Mr. HUME should like to hare from Gentleness opp•••
site, what were the circussatieres of the cometry at the pre/
erns lime that celled fur *,OOO men swore shag Is 1017.
Would she House be rivalled wish that mode of pre-
orraise Canal Chinatowns Wises to their eamitiessrass
if they did mot oppose such estravagance ? Whatever
retreschiseist lied taken place was sot the an of Mi-
lliners, but was occasioned by the death of Bonaparte.
Me should therefore move, that the wirer be reduced to
10;000 inetend of 21.000. He did nut sisal. to reduce the
umber of I.IIIIMII, it was the marlees he was anxious to re-
nted. flit enisidered dins vane, useless; they did nut
'infamy military duty. on had they an naval dot, to per•
fermi. He thield therefore move, that the vote (*reduced
19,008
Sir GEORGE COCKBURN stated the reasons that
induced she tleverameas to iscrease the number of Marines.
At the In ealtiwg oat of the late war they suffered extremely
for the oast of marines. The cossequeen was, they were
compelled 'hi employ a 'smasher of soldiers on board, sod
frees sea sickness they were salt for duty. The G
meal therefore enisstriered It expedient to inrease the mum-
her of their marines, who, is tine ewer, were ready for duty
es ma, and could do tertian by is she sea-ports is time of
peen. From the state of component in this cosstry,they could
at all lionise provided with good seamen. Bet tide VIM wet
tie ease with the marines, and fon skew reasons the Govern_
meat considered it necessary to increase the slumber by 8.0110,
Sir ISAAC COFFIN explained some observations that had
fallen frees hint on a former night.
Slr. BENNETT was quite at a less to know why 5.000
marines should now be granted, 2,000 mere thaw is 1817:
for all the purposes of protection there ieres the same danger
is 1817 as wow. But he saw nn dispositios on the part of
the Goverameat Is put their establishes/ass as the powers.
tem. Then was a general cry of eemsonsy shroughost the
eosstry. The King reeninmesded esmaioniv, Ike Minis-
ters promised economy; sad yet the resell of all this
was, that via should support the lime establishments sow
as la 1817. Would Gentlemen them Mango the her,
that is the coarse of a long Parliament they could name
on terms with their commituests. after Saving voted for
these extravagant estimates? He wished the people could
leek into Parliasseet.—(Load cheers from the Ministerial
Benehes.)—Me wished the eye of the public was Axed upon
their Ptliatcadiort. He believed it would be a most power.
fel corrective, if the people could occasionally lobe a peep
at the Gentlemen opposite, mad see the men who composed
the majorities is that House.—(Loud cheers.)
Bir G. CLERK observed, that if Gentlemen took a view of
the estimates, they would lad that a redoctios had bees
made of two millions. With regard to she intim% when
the Mervin was made, he remembered • Right lion. Genie-
mars (Mr. Tinsel) had regretted they were reduced so low,
for they were a most awful earn, sad he was sure that say
nta‘ seqsalased with the gavel service most be of the same
opinion.

Mr.
HUMP, considered the stitemmit of the Hon. Gentle.
meu as eximierdiumry as that of the Secretary. Fur all he
tsald see that fatuimers Lad done was t►e reduction of
489,0001 caused by the death of Bonaparte.
Mr. CHOKER rime to set the Honourable Gentleman
fklr.Hisow)right In his statement. The House would see
bells(' committed a trifling mistake of 671,0401, whirls was
taken la aid of the vote, and which he bad not lakes into
account.

Mr. HUME pledged himself for the serum, of bin state.
went. And he (ember pledged himself that the Honourable
Secretary ea, 'smog. He did not see what right they bad
retake credit for old stores. Bat there wan no meeting
these Gentlemen. There were two section's on the tattle
signed C. Arbetheot and S. R Laebingtno, ap to the Sib Ja.
unary, ISIS, and os the whole there appeared from them au
!MIS of aeo,ooot.
Mr. CROKER mould prove the et-eerie? of his stile.
tient. la 11117 the ordiesry estimates were 1,476,1601. and
600,0001 *ere redepeed on old stores. The extratodinaries
mounted la 1,•01,01101. The transport estimates amountedlllolooo/. ; the weer sad leer to loaltllOOL which silo.
{Mite staiewst Ids stalesneot to be corm'.
He. RUNE sold he should rest the explanation epos
then nroents on the table.
Th• Rasipsi• of LONDONDERRY remarked that the
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,filerta,, , of ',whim apes a foresee °mashie had melded the
';'"*lldatt 'tediellon la the army, as the ass-
nsra ieerolkdedlllllllle w Ogee militaryluty.
"118.EAC COFFIN here testlmoey to the utility of the
inprol**#•.
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Sot tNlSSllMisiitiolltalll IN IMirrf arovio‘ao;
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eniti'lldellE *Are OW in Hilt. Tie HIM*
Mo. limatfemithltv' haw ristiAt' could link* l tied
Ivey. That twists`* ie ueeiMitilishediattil ftW linesiNtleinf
NM&ergdi lbttl what was ttie thipt•ere of Na aids Is she
row 1107, meneeileyear abwiledent to the hll of perrisiotail
Sir O.OOCIUMMIN slid, the expense might 141/41 beef lit
W. 1.. per meals the years peecedheg the fall.
Mr. WK. Burn" did met onsaeritiod. the siversehysi
Nab mere" as wee observed, at if our elditilee; if MOSS*
mold hare no means of learolne the sumberaf OM?
rsr theirikeitaailon without ipplytog tithe eitiatitee."
. 1111RMAL eotlM net conceive the altruirt of Had
ortreft, or bra it cermet-tied the high realest dealieleseed
this post cossfry that we should Meevtaie the price of post
es bear, or he. IR; 'Wetted Ihe re betimes' between this essallejt
awl ether amildritei in Kerbpe, when the Heine eniteuvaluidi
to pt some ial'oeumatim as to whether Ike Yieteallleg tiwg
went imposed on or net in the percher. of provisierturflatho
may. And he shoolitiske to know if Ministers wee alai
as.PB4/ as 'Vertebrate! pass with the coast blockade Isrilhs
bne of tio,ooqz.
The CHANCELLOR of. the EXCHEQUER said, they
were not -going to phi, se eepirrinteatal game, the come
blockade was established for ihe purpose of protecting forty
minima •r revenue; and it had bee. considered 'urethral
le attach this meek* to the Davy, aad to support them is •
similar , as they were at all times ready for the naval
service.
Mr. LOCKHART thought the Hon. *ember Aberdee•
had tveo, is detail, sunicient reasons why the
show report progress. But be supported the n
upon principle, for be thought not one shilling oboe*
panted lentil the House bed ascertained what the caseaby
was able to bear, fur any thing they voted in that manse
was done at random.
Mr. BROUGHAM supported the amendment for report.
lag progress. And he was the more induced to do mu from
the reluctance he saw to producing even an estimate of IN
Cell of prUlliliitooli het 'ear. and without that it was impale
Bible to proeted correctly.
Mr. CROK ER raid, he bad no doubt tkit account cuu*
be made out w.tb considerate accuracy, and be would es.
drrtake to say that before the Report was received, the--
counts should be laid before louse.
Mr. HUME thought they ehomid not proceed one step
until they had the estimates before them.
Lord LONDONDERRY remarked that the Hoo.Gert.
mart see it Was impossible to have the estimates they thi
required; bust bin Hos. Friend had stated they should bill
times before 'he Report was received.
Sir. HUME—" How dare any Minister conic done is
this House and demand money without being prepared
with thei proper estimates ?"—(Cheers.)
After a few observations from Mr. BROUGHAM, Mr.
H. SUMNER. nud Mr. HOBHOVSE, the Committee
divided, when there appeared for the amendment—
Ayes 47
Noes 127
Majority
On our readmission tato the gallerz, die Margolis of
LONDONDERRY was on his legit, staling, that it the
vote was allowed in. fee put-theta, it alunild be considered
to be open for explanation hereafter.
Mr. BROUGHAM said, with that saderstanding be would
not object to its being put.
The vote was then put and tarried.
The House resumed, and the Chairman reported progress.
Mr.. GOULBURN brought rip the importation of
Arms suit Ammunition Regulation (Ireland) Bill, the
Seizure of Arras and Ammunition Indemnity (Ireland)
Bill, sad a Bill to repeal part of the Population Act (Ire-
land)—whitlt were severally read a first time, and ordered to
be printed.
Adjourned at HALF.PAST TWELVE O'CLOCK to
Monday next.

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