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UNION OF PARISHES.

Sir!. Pi. wroar gate etotiri, that sliest retain papers
oil the table Anuld be printed, be .loor 1.1 mole for leave to
bring in a Hill fur the uniting of l'ariithes in In laud, nt cer-
tain Li, funistsrizes.

PURITY OF ELECTION._

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Oil she motto's of Sir ißostcßT Wthatio, the
order of the dry was rind, " 'rho thr Mot. W.
W. Quin do attend in his place thi% illy."
Sir K. WILSON darn raid. he held t., lin hood
the lirtition, the buboes's..r sit whirls he hid trlt it
hi% shay to state to the liotibe rata former siight,
but the reading of which lie had pool 1111 l ell in iitir.
direit r to the ordrt i f the Mom, awl to accommo-
date the host. Member, who nova .apprarrd sat I
place to 'roily to it, Nikon . lie or- sure that
illrostirr would real mid make allowance for
Ihr distrrsirsisg mod pailtrill bit Udi lUD ill winch he
%vat placed. lie could asisurr lino. that to the sis.
terve' which had elalieed ',ince the ',object hail hero
bi.fore she Molar, lie bid not suller•cl ashy soarti4l
r .'an 1111 UlOOlllOll6 to be insole which ought prejudice
oitsitl• of those whom lie ars addrewitsig hum
utsi real sod equitable drottiosi uu the
aladi of the cake. it Wino due elm) to the Pelt-
Iluwr to ohierre. that too 'tuitio', Irellog »lst-
tier wangled %i:!) the suotiYto of hi. proccetltog.

• This charge dues nut apply to our Paper, fur on refer-
ring to the proper number, it *ill be found to contain a full.
and correct expunition of all the uuteshil facts of the Peti.
tau.

rescue himself front the ennoequenreu, be offering to your
Petitioner the said 40131. a year, iudepentient of any pledge
fur Election services.
" That the said Wyndham iVytulhas Qoin, Lein[ •pps-
renlly at the aforesaid inggeolions, wrote the fol-
lowing note to the said Daniel f;shbeit..in order to its
bring shewn by hint to your Petitioner, viz.—

Mr. Grady may vote as he pleas. s, •ud if he elion‘es to
vole against me, I will not on that account deprive him of
his situation. . QUIN.'

" Root your Petitioner being advised that it woolil he im-
proper to meddle with the perquisites of an office minis-
lei ial to justice, in which office your Petitioner had no pro-
pe►ty, and over which he had no mitre', and the offer
0101, under the cireurnstances and at the time in which it
was made, had so mach the complexion of a bribe to your
Petitioner for compounding an offence against the State,
your Petiti tttt er rejected the said 2001. a year though now
unconditionally offered.
" Tour Petitioner humbly her leave in refer to the tt
William and Mary, cap. 21, sec. A, by which statnie the
said offences so committed by the said Wyndham Wyndham
Quin and Thomas Goold are declared to he corrupt and cri-
minal. And your Petitioner most humbly bets leave to
refer to the ease of breach of privilege acted oil in the
last Session isv the late House of COOIOIOIO. There it ap.
seared that Thomas Ferguson, an Exciseman, of Lanark-
shire, offered a place to an Elector of that county upon the

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same conditioaa, as in the present instance--that i. to say,
on conditions that he would vote for and support the inte-
rea of a certain Noble Lord, and there obit House assert-
ed its high privileges of chastising the said Fergition.
" Yet the said Ferguson was tint a Member of that Howse
whose high privileges he invaded, nor the son of a Peer and
hereditary pillar of that State whose heat f Wiring he
undermined; neither was he the first Judicial Magistrate
in his County, nor an Office Broker in hie OWN County
Court ; and though he did invade the freedom of Election
and the privileges of that House, lie neither subverted the
admintstralion of justice nor rendered his office instru-
mental SO his guilt.

" Your Petitioner therefore humbly prays, that such or-
der shall he mule for inquiring into the allegations of this
his Humble Petition, as to the wisdom and dignity of the
House shiell seem expedient; and your P. tili 4444 er pledges
himself ill prove the troth of every fact here alleged, under
the peril of incurring the severest censuie of this Honour-
able House.

" And your Petitioner, as i• duty bound, shall ever
Pray, Sze."

Mr. W. QUIN then rose, and *said, that he be-
lieved there were few persons who had enjoyed the
honour of a seat in the House so long as he hail,
hod so seldom offered themselves to its notice.
He had never done so without pain and great em-
barraaament. But he should not tell the truth were
lie not now to avow, that he looked forward with
the greatest anxiety for the arrival of that night
when he might rise in his place, and assert that the
charges which had been advanced against him were
as ungrounded and malicious as ant falsehood ever
attempted to be palmed upon the House of Com-
inons—(Hear)—or aimed at the happiness and
peace of one of its Members.—(Laud chrering.)—
Scornfully he repelled the allegations of the Peti-
tion ; unequivocally he said it did not contain the
language of truth.—(Cheering.)—lf the [louse
would permit him, he should in a few words open
to it the true state of the case. The Petitioner
himself said that his complaint did not refer to the
last election. After that electio then, he did, ac-
cording to his andoubted right, remove the Peti-
tioner from the office of Clerk of the Peace; and
appoint another, who he conceived had stronger
claims on loin, and whom he considered to be as
well qualified to perform the duties attached to it
as any other individual whatever.—(Hear.)—ln
coming to that determination, it was not possible
that he had been influenced by any political views,
for both the individuals in question had sup-
ported him with their interest from the time lie
first was a Candidate for the county lie had the
honour to represent ; and perhaps if the Petitioner
had been an old and laborious public servant, one
who had himself discharged the duties of the place
for many years, it would have been a hard case.
It certainly was true that he had held it for fifteen
years; but would the House believe that the
Petitioner was, at the palming moment, but 23 years
of age ; that he bad, in consequence, been appoint-
ed at the age of eight ; and that he had always done
the duty by a deputy?—(Hear.)—lt was his opinion
that the office was one of such importance, as to re-
quire the person who filled it, to fulfil its functions
in person ; and in making the appointment, he had
taken care to select a person who should do so.—
(Hear, hear.)-1-le already had said that the in-
dividual whom lie had displaced had always given
hint his support; to him, therefore, lie could have
borne no unkindness. When he hail apprised that
individu,l of the resolution he had formed, he told
him, with au emotion of which those who heard him
could not form an adequate conception, and which
had effected him exceedingly, that if he took the
office from him, lie should be ruined, and that he
should blow his brains out. Some friends after-
wards suggested to him, that a provision might be
made for that person out of the profits of the office,
which suggestions he felt the force of, though they
hail not occurred to himself. His first step towards
effecting that object, was to take legal advice; and
finding that it was not rilllglllllll to law, communi-
cried to the Petitioner his intention to make a pro:.
vision for him, out of the proceeds of the place, of
200/. a year ; and little did he at that time imagine,
that lie should be the author of au accusation
against him before the House. He objected to
that sum, and said " No! give the 3001. a year ;"
and if he (Mr. Qom) described the profits to he not
half what they were represented to be, he believed
he should speak near the truth. The Petition
stated the first offer to have been entirely sponta-
neous, and coupled with a condition; and that the
Petitioner and his friends refused it on the latter
ground. Understanding the Petitioner conceived
lie had some claim by law on the office, he went to
England, and fur some time after forbore completing
the appointment he contemplated. When he return-
ed to Ireland, in September, he received a letter
from Mr. Carew Smyth, usual earnestly requesting
permission to wait un him in Dublin. He replied,
he should be very happy to see him ; though his
mind had been made up, and he had been resolved
to carry his purpose into execution. That Gentle-
man did call, and discuss, over and over again, all
the motives and reasons for continuing the Peti-
tioner in the office of the peace. Mr. C. Smyth
afterwards sent him, under cover, a paper, profess-
ing to be a minute of the conversation between
them. A hew hours after he had read it, he took
the trouble to call on Mr. C. Smyth. in order to
tell him, in the presence of a third person (Mr.
T. Gould, who could testify to the truth of this),
that lie did mot recognise it as a tan representa-
tion of what had been said. He aterwards
wrote, that Mr. Thomas William Grady might tote

for whom be pleanni—declinei hating any political
connexion with him, and added, that tie was--.• tree
is air." Now could he lave acknoakdgrd the au-
thenticity of the 1111110 le (is alleged iu the l'etilion),
when he gave it back, and would not sign it ? A
few day • alter lie was informed liv a friend, that it
was rumoured in the neighbourhood some condi-
tion hail town annexed to los offer, Hod that lie had
attempted to make 4 loorgaiii. Stith reports he
contradicted iO the 10041 iimpialifieti manner, and
Mr. Gabbeit 6%1114 1•111revell to 111111. 13111 if he
withdrew the prolaro-tI it nr.‘tit he con-
stiwit 1100 NO NCI of •. the tittolier'4
rejet toot of the soiltioed ~,,,, hr moor-
diately wrote a memorandum-6. Mt. e.atly may
vote 1.4 he pleases; mid if he clierows to rote agsitost
me, I will not, oil that occultist, deprive Mtn of his
situstion." It was alleged that 1w did that through
fear of the cotisegnelicrs of an esposure of the na-
ture of his proposal, and of hating lit conduct un-
dri ga au investigation in that flonso. Ile de-
cliered on his honour, us 11 Nlember of Parliament,
he had never beard of roe!' a resolution presioustu
the writing or that one ttttt random. The Petitioner
said, he rejected the first proposal, and would have
nothing to do with it. flow far the allegation was
true, the house might judge from a leiter of the
Petitioner's which lie had beside hint, and should
read :

" 10th Octuher.
" DEAR fltilt-111/191. joist heard of your very handsome
offer, communicated by Mr. Manual,. 1 accept of your
offer for nirself—[. Here was the scorn and indignation
(said Mr. Quin) with which he rejected it']—hat 1 esisebt first
consult my consio.-1 am, dear Sir, very truly y.. rw,
" T. W. filtA DY."
He (the Hon. Member went on to say) threw •
positive denial, s distinct disclaimer against the ac-
cusation of km11'1'1)0114 bargaining fur votes. The
third pergola present, at the second iiderview be-
tween him and Mr. C. Smyth, if examined before
the House, could describe what actually happened
on that occasion. But if the House would allow
him, he should let them into the Petitioner's real
object, whatever might be his ostrusible one.—
The father of the Petitioner at present lived at
Boulogne; he had quitted Ireland, for what tea-
sous he need not nieution. From the 10th of
October he heard nothing respectiog the affair.
On the 1911 i he received the first of a series of
threatening letters from that person. The letter was
read, and ran nearly as follows:

" Stu—Underneath is a copy of a letter to a leading
Member of the Opposition —( Load lavykterj—with whom
I have been greatly engaged last week iu London. He has
furnished me with tracts and precedents from the Journals,
and to his advice I have committed myself. I would
not make use of threats, hut I advise you to re-
store my son to the office of which you have deprived
him, sad to restore hini fur life, before the Ist of
January next. I hope you will take my advice. No
answer to this I shall look upon as a refusal. But if you
►eject the proposition I ►ball nut expect an an4wer. Answer
or no answer I must have your determivatiou before the 12th
of November."

Umlerneath, continued Mr. (Nine was the
letter to the leading Member (which he need
not read), comparing me to Milton's Sits and
Death at the gates of Hell.—(March laughter.)—
Ile would now, with the permission of the House,
read a letter received from the Petitioner's father,
and directed to him. It states, " that the night
von (mennieig Mr. Quin) came to Limerick, and
gave a t upy of the memorial to Mr. Smith, you deli-
vered into his hands, you delivered into mine, the
death-warrant of your political execution." lie
then goes on to nay—" A Member of no common
note came to me (that is, said Mr. QOM, waited
on him at Boulogne) to discuss the matter at
large, and brought me encour..getrient from a
great body of the Opposition."— (.4 loud laugh.)—
would not (slid the Honourable Alerober) Ito jus-
tice to myself or to them, if I did not state the
feelings that this lest sentence excited within we.
His threat amounted to this—You, Mr. Quin, have
made yourself obnoxious to the Opp.e.ition, and
with their aid (they will take it up as a party ques-
tion), I will run you down. I looked upon the
threat us contemptible and vile, and I do declare,
that if my pos.essious, my life, and what I value
more, my honour, were ut issue, I would willingly
repose them in the hands of the Opptoition-1
would trust to their honour and their delicacy as
Gentlemen-1 would rely upon their public inte-
grity as Members of Parliament, sitting as Judges
upon my conduct—l would trust to them as
fully, I would as entirely rely ilium their sense
of right and of justice, as I woold upon any
Jury, or any other honourable and impartial body
that could he selected. The letter tlieti goes
on to state—" I will call the attention of the
British public to the subject, and I will keen
up the public attention by writing paragraphs
in the Newspapers." At the end of the letter, said
Mr. Quin, he has been pleased to enlarge my day
of grace from the 12111 of November to the sth of
December. If, said he, I had compr...oised my
character—if I had listened to the otter that was
made to me, how would I stand before you ?
What then would become of the purity of Parlia-
ment ? I had it in my power, said he, to restore
his son to the office he looked fur ; and by restor-
iug his son, I had it in my power to hush the
charge. If I have not done so—if I trampled
upon the charge and the offer of my enemy, I hope
at least my conduct will go to shew that I (lid not
shrink from investigation—th.st 1 did not dread a
Parliamentary inquiry. The reply that I made to
the proposal will, I trust, shew that I did not fear
the result of a Parliamentary inquiry, however
strict it might be ; and if I may trespass on the pa-
tience of the House, I will read the letter I wrote iii
reply—[Here the Hon. Member read his answer to
Air. Grady]—it stated that his (Mr. Grady's) let-
ter would be best answered by a determined and
contemptuous silence; that as to Mr. Grady's first
letter, he imputed it to u vexatious and disappoint-
ed spirit, sod deserved more of pity than of hatred ;
but his letter of the 18th of October had opened
his (Mr. Quin's) eyes, and it only remained fur
him to state, in terms as strong mid indignant as
language could suggest, that he defied his charge ;
nay snore, that he feared he would not persevere ;
though it was not that he looked for a conquest
over him, for contemptible indeed must be that
victory, however complete. gamed over a men who
hail nothing of purity in his motives, and nothing
of patriotism in I.is objects. The Hon. Geist leman
concluded by saying, that he feared he had de-
tained the House too long. Ile left the case in
Owl hands; it was fur aids§ to determine what

enurse to he ptygued.—/Ha sal flown wand loud
clieers.from /nigh sides of the flow.)
Sir Itoticar W 11.3074 Said, ?hal he could assure
the f-iuu•e lie had no cniii•no•iii•sii,iii will) the Pen.
turner or his father .iliout a wei k liefore he
stated the l'etdion to the and he torrefure
could tint be the public 11140 4111Wled to in tier Irtter
of Mr. Grady.—(s-feur, heur.)—With leg ird to ills
subject of the Priition, it resolved itself lot,' (pars.
Inns of fact, and he thought the hrst hr acts
tug would be to rrl'er It to a Commis, IVith
regard to the statement made by Ihr
Gentlem in, he acknowledged it had moth
aiid it was tint hill iliellootliOs In Ottrellpt lo
the impression it was calculated to 111.1ke uu the
110114 e.

Mr. I'. MooRE said that this was s citt;:gtv.tolluias:
aremed to affect the I our awl tili,:on y tha
were. House If ti's houonr .
there Null
iii 113 i
01114 oputiou,
only one course to pursue—it win apl onii....‘g
was, that a strict and impartial inquiry should be
instituted. Snell inquiry would give the Ilutionr.
able Member an opportunity of clearing away die
imputation sought to be cast upon him. It would
give him au opportunity of viiiilicating hive ttttt luct;
and the inquiry would be attended with advantage
to that Gentleman, particularly as his Honourable
Friend, Sir ltnbert Wilson, expressed !newel( as
not wivhing to do away the itapresvion made upon
the House by the eloquent and forcible appeal of
the Honourable Gentleman. lie colicluded by
saying, that the charge Went to affect the purity, the
dignity, and the honour of the House, and it was
their duty to investigate it.
Mr. ‘VYNN 44111, lie thought the ',resent was a
Cate that demanded nu investigation. If the state-
metit of the Petitioner was due, there was a great
breach of privilege committed. If it way false, be
had no heat tat toil it, saying, that the Pensions'.
we,: guilty of one of the tints' foul awl wicked
conspiracies that hail ever been brought usidrr
the considerat'on of the House. It was the
duty of the House to itivtitive an iinmed ate
inquiry ; wed if the Petitioner uss guilty, to
pronounce upon him the severest criiviire, and to
take care that that putiothinent was totlicleitl. He
would not, hr said, trust himself with eirprevving
his opiMon at that moment, after the deep tut we.-
sion that had been made on his timid by the sate.
mint of the Hon. Member; lie would possibly he
called is; to sit in the character of a Judge ; sod
whets all the evidence on both sides was brought
forward, the time would come to deliver a full opi-
nion. 'They owed it to the Hon. Member, in de-
ference to tits feeling, and his character, to afford
hint a full and ample opportunity of juatif3 log his
conduct—they ought to have au opportunity of
hearing and of seeing the witnesses. It would.
lie conceived, be devil-Ate to has,- Curril,el
heard at the Bar of the House. It tt44 PO de-
cided on the Petition of Ward against fir. Sheri-
dan. Malty Members were ',ow en
Election Committee', a Ito mtivt wet-v..111y be
precluded from hearing the evidence u, tbe present
case; so thut if a Committee were to he instituted. be
thought all other Committees should he stivioended.
The charge in the Petition strongly atr-ctv the cha-
racter of the Hon. Mess ber, dud on every pri maple of
justice he was entitled to a fair opportotwy of
viodiration. *f hat vindication, tit, doubt, wmttil
satisfactory. The documents were not then Witure
House ; they were not prepared to inveatizate thee
charge ; hut when Cculisel should he beard at the
her of the House, should the imputation of the
Petitioner turn out unfounded, the Ilosi-e would
act towards hint with severity. They should take
rare that the character of Members vlitould cot be
trifled with, unr die honour of thee House, its dig-
nity, or its privileges, affected.
Sir ROBERT WILSON ruse to withdraw Ilia motion
for it Committee.

It was theta moved, that the subject of the Pe-
tittuittr's complaint should he braid by Counsel at
the bar of the House.—Agreed 10.
Nlr. WYNN said, it was desirable that the ease
should be toquired into on as early a day HS porta-
ble, and he would therefore move, that to-morrow
fortnight should he appointed.
Lord CASTLEREAGH grid, that there never was a
case brought before the House that, on the fare of
it, was snore fully or more clearly refuted. If any
thing mote 011111 another could more forcibly prove
it to he ro, it was the latter part of the !lota. 31em-
ber's *perch. The litter read to the Muse fully
skewed the motives of the patty. Their t hjt-et
clearly was, he said, to extort tow the lion. Nielli••
ber the office in question. It was, in has 1,1 rd.
sliiit's opioton, a severe case to put the lion. Mem-
ber to the trouble and expense of H defence against
charge so utterly unfounded us the present al.
geared to he ; but if the Ilotise would go tub the
inquiry, he had only to tcly, that they never
it-
qulrrd into the mods of a case winch SO fully mai
so clearly explained itrelf.

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Mr. CuURTENAT t aid, that restionsble titue
►hould be given to bring the tier. ss.rF
futon Ireland, and uarttcultarly
who wet a KinK's Counsel, of extensive busntr•
and who would Hotta present be able to it-311' lit-
Iyud with serious inconvenience to hitnselt and
to his clients.

Mr. WYNN said, this was a case which should he
got rid of as soon as posiiiiie. He did nut under-
stand there was any charge against Mr. Goole). He
suggested that Moodie), futtnight would be a CHII.
venient day.
Mr. C. H. IluTcii INSON said, he hail H fety earths
to otter in refereeice to what fell from the Nolte
Lord, and an Wis. Gentleman at his cite el the
House ; he begged to he considered as co, :1 eng
himself to tins point. He was far from wistilog to
weaken the imprertion made upon the House by
the statement of the Honourable Member, and he
only rose to state, that the letter written by the
father of the Petitioner was written subsequent
to the decision of the Honourable Member. Ile
(Mr. Hutchinson) did not rise for the purpe se of
defending that letter—he ()ply stool the fact—and
he did not think that the Noble Lod (Castle re agl )
followed this case so accurately av he is in the Italit
of doing. He was sure there was no prefer. nee or
partiality entertained for tithe r of the rareir-, sit I
it was light that they should rotor before the (lowa
without any imputation cast upon them. "I litn,
was, he said, the Millie Of a ttft•thttnest stirill!ourd
in debate. VIA the same &thug of impartialoy
deiced him (Mt. flutvlitineeni) to say of that gel -
Ileum), who lie, a leactot Member of the 110,1

far, that there was not in hi• profession a man of
higher character and of more unsullied integrity.
It was, iu lits mind, unnecessa►y to mix up the name
of Mr. Globd with the case of the Petitioner.
Lord CASTLEREAGH explained.
Mr. WY NN asked, whether the Hon. Member
(Mr. Quin) cool" inform the House whether lie
could cimeemently base the case brought on at an
early day ?
Sir N. COLTHURIT said, Mr. Gould's circuit
would commence on the Bth, and end the 429111 or
March.
A Member, whose name we could not learn, said,
he was sure, that. upon an Occasion like the pre-
sent, Mr. Goold would be too good-natured to
think of any alight inconvenience to himself, nail
would attend at the Bar of the (louse, to explain
what he knew of this transaction.
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Mr. TIERNEY said, that if Mr. Gnohl was peti-
tinned against, lie could not he a witness; and lie
understood that the defence of the Hon. Member
could be established without the testimony of Mr.
Goold. It would, he conceived, be a great hard-
slip to bring a professional man assay from his •
circuit, to the injury not merely of himself but of
his clients; and though, as hail been remarked, he
presumed Mr. Gould would be willing to make '
one sacrifices, it would not he reasonable to require
them, unless his reverie, was absolutely necessary.
If the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Quin) wished for his
attendance, of course every tlitug should give way
to his wishes.
Sir J. NEWPORT said, that from a passage in
the Petition, winch lie would read to the House, it
*pinned to him that the attendance of Gould
was quite necessary. Here the Hon. Baronet read
the hillowiog passage nut of the Petdoiti
'That accordingly, mu the next day, the 22d of Sepirm•
her, the said Wyndham Wyndham Quin, attended by Thu-
lama Gorda, of the City of Dublin, Frau one of his Slake_
ty's reinisel (the c.,t foirntial Lawyer of Hint, the said
Wyndinim Wyndham Quin), came to the house of the said
Carew Smyth, when the said Wyndham WynahAni gain,
with his own hand, delivered to the said Carew Smyth the
said instrument in writing, revised and torrtetegi, approved
of and is stikd by the said Thomas Gould, as the basis of
that ernirart, which be the said Wyndham Wyndham Quin
ssisAht to establish."
Mr. BROUGHAM said, that until lie heard the
statement read by the Hots,. Baronet, lie dui not
know how far Mr. Gould was implicated. He con-
sidered the situation of that gentleman one of pe-
culiar delicacy; he acted iu this instance as a pros
frssional IMO, as the Counsel and adviser of Mr.
Quin. In that capacity lie is charged by the Pe-
mintier with an act which certainly would amount
to a breach of the privileges of the House; mid in-
deed, said the Hon. Member, the charge does not
stop here—it goes further, and amounts to what
souk! appear on act of bribery. Io that case, he
thosight the House might compel the attendance
of Mr. Gould to *uses r the Petition.
Mr. Wvratil said, he had no doubt but that the
charges in the Petition required the attendasice of
that gentleman at the bar of the House. He
would too suggest, that a counter charge for a
breach of the privilege of the House, should he
brought against Thomas Grady, mid that a motion
st Id he made to compel his utteiataiice at the bar
of the House. If any thing, lie said, in the course
of these proceedings, was dearer than another, it
was that the author of the letter which had been
read was guilty of a gross breach of privilege.
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Mr. COUitTENAT now presented a letter, which
was read by the Clerk ; it was written by Thomas
Grady, the father of the Petitioner, to Mr. Wynd-
ham Quin. It set out with saying, " I advise you
to restore my eon to the office of which you have
deprived him." It then ;;ors Ott to state, that if he
should receive tin answer, he would consider that
Mr. Quits refused his request. It proceeds in en
thiquerit declamatory style to say that the hydra of
corruption should not only be openly attacked, but
should also he attacked in detail. It asserts that
public men are under the patronage of Ministers—
that they have become corrupt—and that their
exiimple would debauch and demoralise the mass
of society ; but the writer expresses a hope that
the general voice of the country would be raised
to demand a complete Iteforin. It then attacks,
with peculiar forte and asperity, the political
coroluet of Mr. Quits—it say A, that in the year
1815, he had brew in the ranks of Oppo.
einem ; but that lie had deserted those ranks, and
settled in a richer, a milker, end more produc-
tire soil. It says, that within the last three years
he had, by mearia of his political management, pro.
cured the title of Viscount for his lather—the
patronage of a county—aorl the situat' of Custt.t
Rotuloruss for himself; and it charges him with
6%1'4 set up, by such of candle, a high judicial
office iu the county, for purposes as profligate as
they were public.
%%lien the letter was read—
Mr. QUIN verified that this letter was written to
him by Mr. Thomas Grady.
Mr. CouttrewAv said, he believed the next step
was to move, that Mr. Grady should be called to
the bar of the !louse.

The SPEAK FR suggested, that the Flown. should,
in the first instance, decide whether or nut th►y
considered the letter a breach of privilege.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT said, he hoped the House,
on a question so important as the present, would
',lie tin hasty or ill-considered step. As to the lei-
t..r in question. it might, he said, be urged, that it
is not addressed in the Hon. Member, or to any
oilier person. Ile said, that if this miller should,
as he had no doubt it would, be cleated up ►o the
honour and credit of the Him. Member, the House
should not lay themselves open to the tutputation
of having taken any hasty step.
Mr. BATHURST said, that f the statement of
the Hon. Gentleman himself, as well as bum the
internal evidence of the letter, there could he no
doubt but that it was written fur him. The ques-
tion, he considered, was, whether the author ui
that letter, who was now, he understood. in the
immediate neighbou►hood of the House, should be
suffered to have au opportunity of escape.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT rose to explain. Ile said,
he did nut express any doubt but that the letter
win intended for the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Quin) ;
of this he did not, he could not entertain a doubt ;
lint the question was, not whether there was evi-
dence to satiblv the Honourable Gentlenian who
hull just sat down, or to satisfy hint, but the fact
should be recorded on the Journal, of the House ;
sod all he said was, that they should not proceed

hastily, or in the alniince of clear and direct evi-
dence.

Mr. BATHURRT explained.
Mr. WYNN said, tinge was now a complete chain
of evidence. It was clear, from what had been
stated to the House, that the letter, read that even.
mg, was addressed to Mr. W. Quin. Ile should
therefore move—
,' That the writing and sending the said Wert ill Mr. W.
Quits, • Member of this House, is • high breach of the pri-
vileges of this House."
Mr. BROUGHAM paid, 84 all such questions were
of paramount delicacy, it appeared recitlitirly Ile.
cessary that sip inn-statement should go forth, as to
the grounds on which the House came to a derision
—and his nation for particularly wishing that ground
to be clearly and particularly stated wa•, because
lie did not hind any threat held out against the
Hon. Member in his present capacity. There wa♦
still, in his opinion, one of the gros.est breaches of
Parliamentary privilege that ever came under the
consideration of the House of Commons, comprised
its this charge. It was of no consequence whether
the Hon. Gentleman were a Member of this House
or not—the gravamen of the charge was, that the
power of Parliament would ire exerted to induce a
Gentleman to do a ',articular act. It was is
two-fold breach of Parliamentary privilege. Its the
first place, there was a threat, that the great consti-
tutional power of petitioning Parliament would be
prostituted to the base end, that of compelling a
Gentleman to do an act, which he conceived to he
improper—and, with respect to this part, it mat-
tered not, as he bad before said, whether the indi-
vidual to whom this threat applied was or was not
a Member of Parliament. In the second place,
there was a breach of privilege (though of late years
it had lint been much *nuked on), that of' libelling
a Member of Parliament, in his situation as Mem-
ber. There was this, besides, to be observed, that,
by sending this letter to the Hon. Gentleman, the
writer had committed one act of publication, and,
by having previously shown that letter to another in-
dividual, he was guilty of a second—each of which
was a breach of the privileges of Parliament. On
all these grounds, he felt that this was clearly a
breach of the privileges of the House, and he con-
ceived it was necessary, fur his own satisfaction, to
state what were his views on the subject.
The mutton was theu carried Isensiue coutradi-
cente.

COUATEWAT then moved, " That Thomas
Win. Grady rho forthwith attend this House."
The SPEAKER—" Serjeant, see if Mr. Grady
be without—let him he called."

After a pause of a few minutes, the Serjeant
appeared at the Ler, accompanied by Mr. Grady.
The letter addressed to Mr. Quin having been
handed in him—

The SPEAxE addressed him thus--" Mr.
Grady, you will look at that letter. and state,
whether it is your hand-writing."
Mr. Grady, Lifter exam' g the letter. declared,
that, by the present light, lie could not distinguish
the hand-writing.
One of the clerks then brought down • candle
from the table—and Mr. Grady, after again look-
ing over the letter, said, as well 148 we could col-
lect, that, fur some years past, he could not accu-
rately distinguish hmd-writing by candle-light.
Ile laud no recollection whatever of having written
this letter.

The SPEA To what letter does Mr. Grady
address his observations >"

Mr. Grady" To this letter in my hand. I
cannot very well read it—but I do not recollect
having rent any such letter to Mr. Quin."
On the motion of Mr. RANKS, Mr. Grady
withdrew from the bar.

Mr. BANICes then suggested, that the better
mode or proceeding would be, to have the letter
read sit the presence of Mr. Grady, and then to
apk him, whether he had or had not sent that
letter ?

Mr. MARTIN said, the point was, to identify
whether that letter was the writing of Mr. Grady
or not. Now, as Mr. Grady had said, that he
could hot, by candle-light, speak to that point, he
could hot are how the reading of it would enable
hint to give a decisive answer to the question.
Mr. Grady being again conducted to the Bar,
The SPEAKER said—" The witness will attend,
while the letter is read."

Mr. Grady, fora moment or Iwo. seemed not
hear the SPEAKER, probably on account of the
dis-
tance between them—but, mi the question, " Cell
you bear 1" being put, he answered in the affirma-
tive, and the business went on.

The letter, requiring Mr. Quin to reinotate Mr.
Goody'', soil ►u the uf►ce of Clerk of the Peace. wet►
then reed.

The SPEAKER-10 Mr. Grady, you have now
heard the lent, mod. I melt, whether you MI
mote pwalively that you *ere, or were nut, the
uuthor of that irtter

Mr. Grady, we believe (hut from his intuition at
the bar, directly under the gallery, we cannot vouch
for our accurdel answered, that he had been offered
in annuity, corruptly, us he thought, by Mr.
ham Quin, to bind himself and his soil to that
Gvllltemises interest.—(Cries of" Orde►, order.")
The SPEAK El—" The witness must confine him-
self to the question."
Mr. Grady-4' I cannot recollect any thing
about this letter. I have certainly written to the
extent of twenty or thirty sheets on this subject.
mere speculative opinim.s, not letters. 1 never sent
this letier to Mr. Quin."

The SPEAK I will now put two questions
to you—Ft.. , whether you can positively say,
that yon did not write that letter—which is quite
nidepentlent of the second question, whether it Nils
conveyed, or authorised to be conveyed by you to
Mr. Quin ? Are you the author of that letter ?"
Mr. Grady—" I don't recollect &my thing of the
sort, in the shape or nature of a letter. I have
written on this subject—but I never sent to Mr.
Quin what I wrote. A given sum was offered to tue
fur my interest."—(Cries of 1, 'Oder I")
Tht SPEAKIR—" The witness must not depart
from the question."
Mr. Grady—" I have written, as T before said,
on this subject, but I never sent any such letter to
Mr. Quin. I hive certainly written to Mr. Quin,
but never any thing of this description."
The SPEA sil—" Do I understand the witness
righth,—does lie mean to 101 y that he neveror untrioriowil to be sent, to Mr. Quin, the letter
before the Douse ?"

Mr. Gutty answered in the affirmative—and sv::•
then ordered to

Lord CAret.EREAGti said, as Mr. Grady had
denied liiivii.g written •any thing of this desciipll,M.
in the shape of a letter to Mr. and as lie
had stated. gist lie could not gist' au 111/11111M oil
the hand•writiug until he looked at tt in the obiy.
light, he thought it would be proper to have bum
takers into custody, and kept •there, till a more
favourable state of the light enabled I to speak
positively to this letter.
Mr. BiIouGHAM said, they were riot tied by
Mr. Grody'd answer—as it was in their power to
deal with the case themselves, could they get other
evidence. Ile understood Mr. Grady to ►ay, 111,C
that lie had not written this paper, but that he hail
written nothing that aorouutrd 10 11 letter.
Lord CAsTLEREAGII thee, u•krd of Mr.
whether he believed the writing to he that of Mr.
Grady ?
Mr. QUIN said, he had no wish whatever to pu-
nish this individual—lnd the question having been
put to him, he helieved, that the letter lie had re.
ceived, and the superscription on the envelope,
were in the hand-writing of Mr. Grady. Ile knew
him for year., and was acquainted with his hand,
particularly his signature.
Lord CASTLEREAGII said, that this evidence
proved both the fact of the baud-writing and the
publication.
Mr. QUIN said, he could speak more positively
to the superscription, of which he had no doubt,
than to the hand-writing of the letter.
Mr. Alderman WOOD inquired, whether the
Hon. Gentleman spoke of the letter now before the
!louse?

Mr. Quite answered in the affirmative.
Mr. Bitouctiast said, there was, in this CUP,
first, is positive denial that Mr. Grady ever wrote
this letter; and next, that though lie had written
on this subject, he had never sent what he bail so
written to Mr. Quin. Then, on the other side,
they had the evidence of the Hon. Member, who
was there as a witness, not as a party, that the
writing was that of Mr. Grady, and be spoke from
so experience of many years. This letter he re-
ceived by the post, the cover being directed in tt.e
hand-writing of Thomas Grady. This amounted
to such strong proof both of the writing and the
sending, that he could see sin reasonable cause for
doubting the facts. The House, in his opinion, might
now proceed to deal witl► the case. With respect to
Mr. Quin's eligibility as a witness, he would say one
word. It was of no consequence whatever. whether
the charge brought against hint were true or not,
there appeared to be a decided breach of the privi-
leges of the House, an individual having been
threatened, that, if lie did not do a particular act,
the House of Commons would proceed in a certain
way to his detriment. This being the case, it mat.
tered not whether the person so assailed was t►
Member of the House or nut, he was quite comp.-
kilt to give evidence.
Mr. COURTENAY said, the House were about to
proceed on a case, as strong as a case of this kind
could possibly be. The fact of the hand-writing
was substantiated by an Hon. Gent leman,while the
denial rested on the most prevaricating testimony of
the most prevaricating witness that es er appeared at
the bar.

Mr. W. WYNN said, in the second letter, an
allusion was made to the sending of the first. The
proving of the second, would therefore be sufficient
for both.

Mr. Alderman Wood said, that allowing Mr.
Grady to have written the letter, there was no proof
of his having sent it.

Mr. BATHURST obterved, that • letter having
been received through the Post-office, on the hand-
writing of a particular individual, inch letter must
he considered as liaising been sent by the person
writing it.
Mr. W. WYNN RiCived
44 That Thornad Grady did write and send the said let.
ter."—Carr ird wens. con.
Mr. WYNN neat moved—

" That Thomas Grady, in having written and sent the
said letter, is guilty of a high breach of the privilege► of this
House."

After a few words from Mr. BANKE3 and Mr.
W. WYNN, the motion was agreed to nem. cum
Mr. WYNN diets moved—
., That Thomas Grady, for his said offence, be committed
to his Majesty's gaol of Newgate."—AKreed to Nees. eon.

On the motion of Sir R. WILSON—C. Smyth,
D. Garliett, Thomas Mansergh, Thomas Goold,
of the city of Dublin, Barrister-et-law ; Richard
Smith, Clerk of the Peace for the county of Li-
merick ; D. Roach, and D. Gavin, Solicitor, were
ordered to attend at the bar, on Monday sennight,
to give evidence with respect to various transactions
connected with Mr. Grady's Petition.
Alderman WOOD was anxious, as the present
was a case of great importance, and it was neces-
sary that Gentlemen should be well acquainted
with it, before they came to a decision, that the
letter read that evenitig, and all the documents
connected with the case, •s far as they could be
collected, should be printed.
Mr. P. Moues, Sir R. WiLsort. and Mr. C.
Hurculaisox, were of the same opinion.

After a few words from Mr. W. %Virws, Lord
CMITLESERGII, and Mr. D. GILBERT, the pro-
position was agreed to.

STATE OF PRISONS.
Lord CASTLEREAGH Wit oft, till Monday neat,
his promised motion on the state otl prisons.

INDIA.

Mr. HOWORTH postpotird, till Torn*, fort-
nights hi• motion for paper, relative to India.

THE BRM S ii PRESS.