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not against that country. Wes it
then for us to say, after France bad made this con-
ctasion to America alone, "Yen, America, shell not
enjoy it?" He would go farther, and contend,
that the Orders in Council say, " Although we
know you have repelled that Decree, and you have
in no way submitted to it, yet it is injuries* to ns,
and we will make you safer and crouch under us."
It was preposteroad to think, for a moment, that
the Americans were that tame kind of beings
His Majesty's Ministers would wish them to sup-
pose. `They could not chew one iustauce where
they bad submitted to the Enemy's Decree. And
he would go farther, where they laJ submitted, in
the ease of any Belligerent Power, either to their
Decrees or Orders ;n Council. By the modifi-
cation of the French Droree, American vessels
covered British properly—what mere could
be asked ? What more required ? Ministers
thought there was more ; and, by their Orders,
cut off that onty opening left us for introduc-
ing oar manufaetures into the Continent of Eu-
rope. If we only thought of self, this ought to
carry a weight, without going to that old-fashioued
dame called Justice ; but he had forgot she had
made way for the new morality. But why did Mi-
nisters lie by from July to November ? During
that tinae. WWI there ant the same reason of cum-
plaint; and if
.they were justified in Novem-
ber, the same justification would have extended
to them in July ? He then proceeded to ob-
serve, that he hoped the Noble Lords would
never thiuk it to. late.to recede from a bad policy,
and thew a ration, endeered to us by far greeter
ties than a!IV other, that we wished yet to be
the kind indulgent parent, and instead of
oppressing her, that we would assist her in-
fancy as hag as she kept justice on her
side; that being in her infant state, we asked
no more assistance from her than to keep herself
from being embroiled, and chew us the same fa-
vour• the would to other belligerent nations. if
we held out this hied of language to her, she
would Dever forget that we had given her being,
and our interest would be to her a birthright, for
if the enemy injured a limb of us, it would affect
her very vitals. His. Lordship contlnded with
moving—" That the Orders in Council be re-
scinded."
The Deka of Moxvitoes said, he considered
the measure as truly energetic, and countenanced
by the law of nations, as far as se understood what
the law of nations wax. Were we, for the sake of
neutrals, to give up our right. to retaliate on an
enemy, when France told us that no neutral trade
should he carried on with this country ? Were we
to wait throe months for our Messenger to go to
America, three months for his return, antl • Alf-
ference then occurring of a saran nature, there
would be six months longer be.l...re we understood
each other, leaving this eauu, n . 11 the mean time,
suffering under the decrees of trauee; and would

character to the known liberality of the public.
From the calamity of his death, he wus sorry to
acquaint the Committee, that it appeared Lord
Lake had taken but too sanguine a view of his cir-
cumstances, which did not at all leave any of the
branches of his family in a situation cor-
responding to his worth. In calling this claim
to the attention of the Committee, he trusted
they would with him be of opinion, that
it was made for services of the first order,
and of a continued series. In the letter
part of Lord Lake's life, ne had, in an especial
manner, signalized the British arms,' by having
gained, at the battle of Lincelles, one of the most
splendid victories. There was something in the
course of his actions whieh always brought the
success of the day home to the exertions of that
N able Lord. There never was a man that
presented himself more conspicuously to his
troops in the hour of danger, nor better calculated
to animate them to great exertions that led them
on to victory. In short he imitated that which
perhaps more than any thing else contributed to
the success of the French arm 3, a total carelessness
of his own valuable person. Viliatever may be the
opinion of some as to the civil policy of India,
every one must own that the most important advan-
tage, had resulted from the solid and substantial
services of that gallant and lamented officer, is de-

dissent.
Mr. Wu. Dugwrg Observed, that the Committee
had no,resson to hesitate in allowing the annuity in
question to commence from the date of the see
vices performed, because the claim woo not put ift
soonnr. that being no reason to delay it row that
that Noble Lord'. family were in necessitous es.r-
eilmstmices. He thought the services of Lon'
Like equally entitled him to a monument as Lord
I lowe's did. Although Lake bad a lucrative
siteation, yet be back not amassed wealth ; 'and,
therefore, upon every ground of public feeling, he
should give his most hearty ennsent to what had
been ti rst suggested.
Mr. Awar to TAY LOR said, he was certain Ilia
Hen. Friend before him (Mr. Whitbread) 'would
not have objet.; ed to the preser.t Motion, but upon
strong grounds of public duty, and theresuis no
man mare unwilling than he himself was, to *gra-
rate the burdens of his constituents, by an *tiara-
'idea grant of the public money ; but be could
never think of being niggardly in rewarding the
services of a man who had devoted thirty or Teriv
yeas of his life to the good of his cor.lntry. Al-
though Lord Lake's emoluments and' opportuni-
ties were great. vet he had returned from India,
not pruseased of £40,-100, with *even Children, two
of whoa. were daughters, who were left only .Yl5OO
s-piece. Such being the case, were we in such a
predicament of necerisity as to squabble ahout
£10,000? This, however, was the amount of the
real difference that existed, as his Hon. Friend,
who had stated his otection, seemed pot to be
hostile to the annuity of £l2OOO a-year,. provided
it was not retrospective. He wished that trey
one who returned from India might &et ‘s fairly
and honourable as Lord Lake had dame, acrd
not plunder the natives of that coventr,y, fwe.
the sake of leaving their own family us
affluence and splendour. Such was the casein*
with General Sir John Stuart, whose services 'Pam

'

formerly rewarded for although his situation was '
lucrative, and his opportunities of acquiring wealth
were frequent in occurrence, yet he returned from
his splendid achievements, without having saved
sae shilling, but w ,at arose from his pay. We
had only to look to the brilliant services of the No-
ble Lord at Limielles, to feel the benefits that Lad
resulted from them. Ile sincerely wished, that in
eases of this sort we should look to the merits of
officers, in plipming, as well as iu executing,
sehievemena, which materially benefited their
country.
Lord CASTLEREAGH observed, that the small
sum proposed, in addition to the annuity, Will in-
tended for the benefit of the daughters of Lord
Lake.
General TARLTON bore testimony to the
splendid military achievements of the Noble Lord,
and approved highly of this mode of rewarding
men who hail so exerted themselves in the sea ice
of their country. It was the means of giving them
that military pre-eminence that led them on to
ry. There could be nothing, in his ro,,inion,
honourable to that Noble Lord's character,
he returned from India poor, and died
As to the proposed monument, it had
' there was sot
army than the

disagreeable sen-
but lie did it
argument that had
Lake's poverty was
this, that if any
- the servi4e of
his lucrative
they were to
He should for-
. and merits of
arguments used that
had been made.
- Noble Lord who
conceive there
gratitude than
opinion, Lord
i to this cairn-
.anees that had
Ins' family to
chewed that he
creditable to
He trusted, ho•.w-
. sutler his children
honourable poverty.
•‘ testimony to ti,e
- of the Noble
!meats of his
charities, and
I in the same
extent which it
the observation,
m made sooner,
that so long es
of such 'lmola-
that hedi:-
_ further rewards
withhold his just
his opinion, a
country. ►ie
proposed to be grant-
- • - unseated him
w, but his un-
whose duty it
what they coaceived
with greater
ipporting this notion,
d to the gratitude
Lord Lake. He
• merits of Lord

thinking, that the
India, were of

country, and
wonutneut winch was

rise 'to opposa
fired, that the

pleased to con.
perfectly sufficient. It
for great serficepi, orna
encouragement for mill-
-versa''y in our army.
:ts of the cu-e
stated, before
con.fituents.

Lord Lake had
--e. yet he under-
stoOd . had brought home with him from India
shove ,eloo,non. The task was always invidious
sod unpleasant to an individual to oppose such
Motions for rewards ; they were generally car-
ried, as it were, by acclamation; footin
inch male,, it would be more prudent to appnint a
Committee to inquire particularly int..r biel4, be-
fore they were submitted to the House. The
-
ac-
to be the (list
and the acquits-
west wily in re-
irrements. Those who
'ly independent,
agree to the :no-
. girt to be made
grants, without in-
fects and cireunt-

/hen Lord Lake
considerably m-
ile went there in
creditors. Great
. home WWI in fact
not receive much
burdened with

of any kind from the people of this country, ought
to be such as that no man need to demand what
those services were. They ought to be such as /big
throughout the world, otherwise they ought net to
be brought before this House. In the present situ-
ation of this country, and the situation or the 91bo.
pie, I think that there should be even something
more than what may be called extraortEtfary We-
iner, to entitle any individual to extraortfinary re-
wards, and upou that ground alone 1 shall think it •
my duty to object to the motion of the Noble Lord. •
Now, upon general constitutional grounds, I also
object to it, the more strongly, because I find that
His Majesty has ample, and wore than ample means
of beidowilig such reward" for merit, without coin-
ing to this house, supposims•we were all agreed as to
the realiouablenese of the pretensions. It lied been
long thought to be fit and proper that the King
should possess the power of grunting pensions;
and, for the same reasons, the means of doing 60 had
been deposited in His Majesty's hands from the
Civil List. Shall we then be wasting and squan-
dering away. the public money for services that uo
not meet the light of day, but which may probably
meet with the reprobation of the people ? Being
convinced of the general impropriety of such con-
duct, I shall take the sense of the Committee ; for
I conceive, that were I to do otherwise, I should
not be attending to the interests of the people
of England. With respect to the service++ ot Lord
Lake, they have been remunerated already in a
manner that any Officer ought to have been sat's-
tied with. Was it possible for that Noble Lord to
have expressed his opinion upon the subject, I ani
sure that neither he, nor any man in his situation,
would have approved of making tohim, or to his fa-
Tully, any further provision, at the burden aud expenee ,
of the already distressed people of this country.—
If the merits of Lord Lake have been great, 1 think
the merits of the people have not been small ; and I
would ask, how they are to be rewarded for the
burdens and difficulties they have already sus-
tained ? have they uo price in the eyes of Miusters ?
Sir, the people of Great Britain caunot meet with
any reward for their merits, but by the watchful jea-
loney of this House in preventing their substance
to lie wasted in rewarding pretended services, such as
those that have been stated. They have a right to
demand a vigilant amid esoilomical distribution of
leer:trill, when they are to be paid by money arising
frent them. I blink the merits ot the people of
England, for undergoing ankh privations as they
have undergone, are not inferior to any individual
whatever ; and upon these grounds I shall not only
negative the Motion, but take the sense of the
House upon it."
The Cu Pi:I.:LIAR of the EXCHEQUER•-••-" The
merits of the Noble Lord have been so generally
acknowledged, that I shall not say much upon that
point--'est there is one to which the Hon. Baronet
has itst now alluded, to which I cannot help ad-
verting. I shall concur with him in thinking that
the people have a right to expect from a vigilant
and eroumnical attention to the distribution 9f their
mono. But Ido not think that we can convince
the public that it would be true economy, either
at this time or any other, to visit with parsimoni-
ous rewards, those services which have been ren-
dered them. If we be in great peril and danger,
this is the moment when the House should kink,
with peculiar anxiety, not to let gp bye any fair '
and proper opportunity of rewarding distinguish-
ed services ; and, therefore, whatever may be their
oppression at the present moment, such motions us
the present will never have the effect of leading
them from a just view of the subject. When he
represents the people of the country as enduring
great privations, he does not press any consider-
ation that bears upon the subject in question....
But he says, that it is improper to vote these sums,
at the present moment, as the King has such am-
ple and unexampled means of bestowing such re-
wards. What those unexampled means are is to-
t/illy uaknown to one. I presume he does not make
these observations, upon this point, without know-
ing the limits to which Parliament has confined
them. It is well known, that His Majesty cannot
grant a pension nut of the Civil List exceeding
bOO . a year, and that he is also limited in respect
• of times, nut being able to grant it bevoiiil his own
life-time. Is it to this extent that the lion. Baronet
is to look to rewards for meritorious services of thi.
description? This, I think, should remove the ef-
fects of the lion. Baronet's observation."
General (;escoi Oei le said, the observations of the
Hon. Baronet were only calculated to excite tVs-
content.

Mr. Humes —" I am (lei-irons of stating the VieW
in which I consider the motion now before us.
feel it impossible to resist remunerating the meri-
toriotis services of a tnilirary man, although I am
as desirous of a parsimonious expenditure as any
mail. I perfectly ictree with those lion. Gentlemen
upon the other siilo of the House (the Minbtlerial
rifle) that the bestuvoing such rewards is in many
instances the best economy. So far from denying
the merits of Lord innAt say, that no man
had ever a greater call for gratitude and remuner-
ation front the piddle for his brilliant services and
important successes. But, Sir, while I say this, 1
maxim, at the slime time, avoid objecting to the re-
trospect with which this pension is proposed now to
be gi anted, as it is absurd to make it attach to a pe-
riod, during which, and the life-time of Lord Lake,
it was not thought expedient, under all the circum-
stances, to bring it formers!. Its not having been
done before makes me doubtful whether it would
have been poisihle to have induced the House to
convir in such en allowance, under all the circum-
stances, immediately after those services were per-
formed. Although he survived many years, yet no
idea hail been made for this grant. Another plot
think also objectionable, and that is, in carrying
it beyond the next immediate successor of Lord
Lake ; because I think all dnc consideration ought
to be strewn towards not burdening the country. I
cannot help recommending this to the consideration
of the Committee, as I think the bestowing of •
Peerage ought to go a considerable way towards re-
muneration for services. But it was highly im-
proper to bestow Peerages, in any case, upon those
wlea are not in situations of previous independence
to maintain them. An undue exercise of the power
of bestowing Peerages, only tends to make such
persons become pensioners upon the country, con-
trary to the principles of the Constitution. y It hes
happened to me, Sir, to review the pensions that
have been granted to perserui of distinguished rank,

and there are many granted under such circum-
stances, theft wish they did dot exist. As to the
monument to Lord Lake, I cannot fprove of it
being etecteint the expense of the country, it hav-
iug may been usual in cases where officers have &Is*
len in aetiots, or recenied wound& in battle, which '
have ultimately terminated in death. Ido not. .
knesi any exception to this rule, but that of the
monument erected, or to be erected, to the late
Lord Howe—but I wish the House to return to its
former mode of proceeding upon this point."
Lord Geonost CavenniEn approved of the mo-
tion, and entered into the praises of the Noble
Viscount, as did also another Honourable Member,
whose name we could not distinctly ascertain..
This last observed, that, although lie approved of
the motion, he should wish to see the Patronage
of the Crown abridged, and put into the hands of
the people.
TheSECILETARY at Wait spoke favourably of the
conduct of Lord Lake, and supported the motion.
—He approved of rewarding merit, by the confer-
ring of a Peerage, and thought it was but reason-
able to support its independence.
r.fr. TIERSILY-•-•" I should not have given my
opinion at all upon this subject, had it not been tiir
the wide which the Hon. Baronet had expressed of
taking the sense of the House. Were this mea-
sure to be acceded to silently, I ens afield it may
go forth as the practice of this House, that we
will consent to the granting of money rt:never it
asked. No such charge, however, shall be made
upon me; I agree with the Hon. Baronet behind
me, that nothing van be more strictly our duty,
than to see that all gouts of the public mo-
ney be made with the utmost economy; but
stilt 1 do not think I ought to hesitate as to whe-
ther liana! reward services rendered to the country
by a party whose merits are known and are stated.
The great question before us, is, whether or not Lord
Lake deserved what is proposed to be granted? I
cannot approve of that doctrine that says, because
a nein has got a Peerage bestowed upon him, he is
thereby entitled to have such a pension conferred
upon him as should render him independent of the
world. When such a case as this arises, lam not
precluded from opposing it. I do think, that toy'
Lord Lake did deserve the Peerage bestowed upon
him, he having most honourably earned it. Now,
as to the necessity or justice of the war in India, 1
am not called upon to decide, but merely to de-
termine whether Lord lake, as Commander-in-
Chief, and as such, placed .in a high and re-
sponsible situation, performed his duty well?-4
believe that no officer ever conducted himself with
greater integrity and honour than he did. It was
not merely the conduct of the war, but many dif-
ficult negociations in which he was engaged, and
by which he had rendered important services to the '
country. Upon these grounds, and on account of,
his reduced circumstances, •I have uo hesitation in
voting this sum to his twirl. I think the answer
of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, as to the
power of the Crown to bestow the necessary re-
wards for merit, ought to satisfy- the Hon. Baronet
as to the impossibility of its being sufficient for
that purpose. As to the monument, I should wk!)
to see that species of reward only bestowed upon
those who fall in battle. I do not think, however,
that by the House overlooking that part of the
proposal, the utonnusqnt will not he at all
erected. As the services were principally reit"-
&red to the East India Company, they, upois
taking them into consideration, would certainly
not hesitate to erect one. I would fain hope that
the Noble Lord would not, oh that account, press
that part of his motioos and that the Honourable
Baronet would not persist in taking the sense of
the House upon a qucition which Steins to meet
with so much of our concurrence."

Mr. WILLIAM SMITH also expressed his wish
that the Ilonostrahle Baronet would not take the
sense of the House upon the question.
Sir FRANCIS BUIDETT—.4 I think it necessary
to add a few words more, in order to state my
reasons for not acceding to the opinions of those
Honoura'.le Gentlemen who wish that no division
should take place upon the present occasion. The
Right Honourable Gentleman opposite (the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer) chooses to misrepresent
what I stated as to the rewarding the people of
EitAland, and what I stated as to the Pension List.
He stated that the only means possessed by the
Crown was a very small patronage for rewarding
merit; but I believe 1 nerd not go out of his own
family to find that the Crown possessed ample
mesas of rewarding very extraordinary merit. I do
not pretend to give en opinion as to its being real
merit; but when Ministers comedown to tell us that
the funds of the Crown are at an end, I should
then certainly agree to reward services out of the
nurses of the people. This, however, is certainly
not the ease ; but when any officer of merit is to
be rewarded, his ease is brought before this House,
■nd we have, under such circumstances, the un-
pleasant task imposed upon us, to oppose grant-
ing that which may be due even to public services ;
' we must int-Prappear to act with mean econmny,
or else impose unjustifiable burdens upon the peo-
ple. The Hon. Gentleman below me (alluding to
Mr. Tierney) has taken pains to state, that he, by
anticipation, wishes to disclaim any part of my po-
litical sentiments. To this I can have no objection ;
but I shall never have any difficulty to date my sen-
timents to the Muse. when 1 tun conscious that I
do so with no intention of turning out this or that
set of men ; but that I am actuated only by a
strong, eager, and zealous desire to perform that
duty which I think myself peculiarly called upon
to perform. Having said tints much, I must beg
leave to add, since so much hat been said of the
merits of Lord Luke, it is not my business at all to
detract, standing as I now do, upon strong consti-
tutional gronds, from which the Hon. Gent. below
shall 'sever remove me, by saying, 'that my observe-
bons do not apply to the slut-dims before 'tne House.'
I will not be obstructed in any arguments pecu-
liar to the case before us, whethel they be antici-
pated or not. I must say that the services of Lord
Lake have not been of the description of those of
Lord Nelson. or such as to call for the gratitude of
the country. I do not think 0114 his merits, Ia
they what they may, have gone unrewarded. I
believe, that if one-tenth part of that reward already
granted were bestowed upo.: the military profes-
sion of this count 7, you would have more real mi-
litary and meritorious men. After all, them, what
have been those brilliant, es.tmonlinary services of

Lord Lake in India, that we are called np,th %-
reward ? Who Is he titre: ever went to India, that
did not return with an ample fortune ? I will not
talk of failures, or in any• manner disparaging%
this officer, as it is not the peculiar questi4
we are called upon to decide, but I %a,
tt upon broad, general, and constitutional
ground's, and I sty that unless Ministers do thati.4
to put an end to tin' patronage or the Crown, slick
is not brought before the public, I shall not,
front any false feeling, or from any representatiorso
a iiiitardly spirit, refrain Hui guarding the put,
he purse. I shrill not allow myself to be diverrad
nom my: purpose, as I feel it to be my deny to
the people of England, to take the sense of the
House, although. it be but an expression of whin
is perfectly well known: I know of no occisiom
why the lion. Gent. below should be so an‘iotis ts
guard himself and the House against any esor.
sons that might fall from me, or that he should
fear lest he be suspected of acting upon this OCC9.
sion from party motives Inure than upon at.!
other."

Mr. BIDOULPII stated his sentimeLts shortly
against the Motions ab he thought there I.s sJf.
licteut ability is the Crowu to giaut the LeLe...sary
'reward.

At division then took place upon the Question of
the Grant of the Annuity, as stated in His Alajes.
ty'a Speech, when tnere appeared—
For the Grant
Agaiust it

Majority
And another division upon the ltetrospeetive
when there uppeared—

Ayes
Hats

Majority
The Resolutions wee the& agreed to, and the
House resuuteil.

MOTION FOE PEACE.
Mr. liTarruattso--" After the very lengthened
discussion, Sir, which Les already taken place on
the subject proposed by the Noble Lord, I hope no
other business will, at this hour of the night, be
pressed on the attention of the House by the Noble
Lord opposite.- I beg, from thy patience of the
House, some small indulgence, • which, considering
the circumstances of responsibility under which
rise, I have no doebt will be given mein proportion
to the magnitude of tbequestion under consideration.
The Commissioners who pronounced His Majesty's
speech on the opening of the present Session have
admitted that the present crisis is awfully ha-
portant, and probabty preipaut with the fate of
England, and the cause of independence iii Eu-
rope. If such be the state tif maim
totter on the verge of a precipice 7-4 the least
possible deviation from 'true policy and propriety
lead, in the apprehension of His Iklajeirtj's csrafides-
tial agents and advisers, to inevitatile ruiu, direly
we should be wary, eircemspect. or.cl;:eantitaiii, to
fornong to otteselvee principles of ictlim, and yet
more so in reducing fliem• to-practice. No tine
should he lest, no opportitnity negkuted of impress
I alone se uution of this country, and estricatin4 hat
from *be etiziestl state in which her foreign relations
have git length Involved her. While the Govern-
ice-neat' the country admit that no step should be
token uuadiesedly at the present peeiod of Imps-
rattled clanger, they hold out to the nation the
prospect, thet even this miens may be prodartite of
Inc most importatut advants:;es to the country.
thoiigh I cannot so yeti understand the latter as.
sertiou. I feel the whole force of that which states
sue deuger, and our well-founded apprehensions.
That dsuger must be indeed evideut to all, if at
are .till to pe..-se‘ ere la the imperious and of entire
t.ine adopted by His Majesty'sMinisteis toForsieti
Powers, whether enemies or allies ; a tone ea:, u-
leted to excite either conteuipt or revenge, in pro-
portion to the estiai,:tiou iu a hich our national
strength is held on the Continent. Moment-
ous, indeed, is the present crisis, in this view of the
question, and tremendous the consequence's to he
apprehended from a perseverance in those prin-
ciples we have hitherto- maiutained.—l have, Sir,
beau induced to choose the present as the best pos-
sible tune which has, within the present session of
Parliament, presented itself for the discussion of
this subject, from two considerations. The first is,
that by the repeated applications of my Hon.
Friends around me, several of the necessary pa-
pers for entering into such an investigation have
been laid before this House. The next, because
there is very little probability, from the determined
spirit of opposition displaed on the part of the
Ministry, on a late occasion, that any others will
be granted, let what 'All be the argutneats ad-
duced to prove the necessity or propriety of their
production. On these, then, such us they are, it
in necessary. to proceed. Ws have no alternative,
hut that of deserting altogether the public muse.
It has been said by the defenders of the present
men in Ices Majesty's confidence, their conduit
had been atria l•; proper--their measures just ; bit
this species of bold defence rested solely on asser-
tion; and while they asserted it was absolutely in
their own power to justify the line of policy pur-
sued towards the nations of Europe, by exhibiting
proofs of the insincerity of some, the hostility of
other*, and the acknowledged weakness of tit,
they stran"ely avowed their determination to Tie
fuse stir one of those documents on which they
admittiel the proof of the justification depended.
While they, iii His Majesty's Speech, admit the
dangers and perils of our situation, there exists no
spirit of concession or conciliation whatever.—
hilt. the sense of the untion .is espressiel ants
the most respectable members of the community
in petitions for peace, preferring a prayer for re-
bee from their grievani es, with !het Misderation.
temper, • patriotism, awl dental forbearance.
which marks their conduct es beyond all praise,
they have vet again to learn the bitter lesson.
that they shell not derive from this caustitittichial
exertion of their pi ivi trees, the smallest redress, the
faintest hemming of a most rensote expectation, the
slightest alleviation of a-htirden already insupporta-
ble, and rendered every hour mom galling by its
continued pressure on the jaded and depressed spi-
rits of a suffering, uorepining, and hems ',abet!.
To such I'etitious I sins sad ever have been,
friend. To the avowal of suffering, and She pier
of the distressed, I cmnot tuna a deaf ear.
therto they have not been treated with isouteinet
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glory. There could be nothing, in
more honourable to that Noble Lord'
than that he returned from India poo
honourable. As to the proposed wount
his hearty assent, as he was conviiir ed tl
a greater idol throughout the whole art
late Lord Lake.
Lord FOLIIIITONE said, he felt disag
cations in opposing this Resolution, b
upon general grounds. If the arguint
been used as to the late Lord Lake's
good for any thing, it must go to this,
person who had ;signalized himself in tli
his country, should, notwithstanding I.
situation, die, leaving his family poor, I
become a burden upon the public. He
bear discussiag the general services an
Lord Lake, as he had beard no argurnei
could justify the motion that had been
Earl TEMPLE differed from the Nob'
had just sat down, as he could not co
could be a greater chino to public gn
that which bad been stated. In his op
Lake's having returned from India ti
try, and dying wider the circuidstant
been represented, not only entitled I
the considerattou of the public, but slit
had acted in a manner highly creditable
and honourable to the nation. He tr
ever, that the lipase would not sutler
to remain in such a state of honourable
Mr. SEMNER contributed his testin
• eminent services and qualifications o
General. It was true that the emolua
aitsatiou were great ' • but his plicate el
his generosity to the Officers eis„^aged
service, exhausted his fortune to an cal
would be difficult toaseertain. As to the
that the application might have been
he should miry remind the House, tha
Lord Lake was in the enjoyment, of
meats abroad, his disposition was such,
daned making any application for fur
at beam Thill iodination to within
claim, Rare C.o. Noble Le..al, in hi
voter title to the gratitude of his ce
even thosight, that what w4.s proposed
ed was not sufficieut, and nothing Pn
ink moving for a greater slim/lance.
wiMgisasa to interfere with those wl
10114 to ouggeA and propose what es,
proper upon such an occasion.
Cola:lel WOOD said, he never VIM! '
satisfaction than he did in supporting
for if ever there was a man entitled to
and esteem of In. county, it was Lord
was unwilling to detract from the me
Bowe, but be could not help thiuki
heninetit services of Lord Lake, in It
infinitely ...rester importains to the c
well entitled him to that inoimineti
proposed to be raised to his memory.
blr. W. Surin said, lie did not wit
the Motion; but he certainly ccaiceiv
honour His Majesty had hen plea
fer upon Lord Lale wits perfectly s
was an appropriate reward for great
sufficie:.t to promote }hat encouragen
tory exploits which was so necessary
Ile thought, however, that the factt
ought to have bean more clearly it
they voted away the snooty of their
Although it had beeu said, that Lo
Daly left to his family ,t'to,ooo, ye
stood be had brought house with la

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qnWii' of fame and renown (eight to lie the rim
reward sought by military lan, and the avgiiir-
lag of a l'errage ought to gn a great way ire ie.
warding any splinnlid achievements. Those who
had Peerages should be undoubtedly independent,
a id it was therefore that he should agree to the mo-
tion, although he did not think it ought to be made
a patrol rule to make such grants, without in-
quiring particularly into the facts and circuoi-
obaces attending each case.
leer A. Wt ttEster said, that when Lord Lake
went out to India, his affairs were considerably em-
lbansissed—and he rather theright he went there in
order to enable himself to pay his creditors. Great
part of the money he had brought home was in fact
ee bestowed, sod Lord Lake did not receive much
some than 30,0001. leaving his estate burdened with
4001. soot.
_ WIIIITIMEAD added, that his objection wu
talipaNztasto the voting the monument to Lord
u did not, however, approve of putting
this slabs upon the footing of poverty. The great
Doke of Marlborough wu in reduced circum-
stances, yet it was not his poverty, but his services
that were stated as the cause for making any grant
to him and his descendants.
Mr. LUSUINGTON approved of the motioa, and
thought that the additional 10.CM:would be well
bestowed upon the younger children.
Sir Famous BURDETT—fi I beg to enter my
protest against this motion, upon two grounds ; the
coo af a public nature, and the other particularly
applicable to the pre.sent case. I must say. that those
services that taus have say pretensions to rewards

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e„„t, and they produced a proportionate effect en
Aistiltajesty'sthentiovervitnent. 'OM nation obtained
e peace, which we ever since had masers to hail as the
cement of the two countries, nearly alienated by rice
amoral persecution, and yet more unniiiural par ! If
our distresses then justiticll a peace which sacrificed
the greater part of our territory—what shell be said
st the present moment atiy say we should
make do overtutoser concessions for peace now?—
Surely riot. But, Sir, if in this applieotioll we fail,
wheeler the cause of the people, or that of the
Ministry, be triumphant, it may be the happy
means of solving this proposition.; Whether we
may expect to obtain any thine, like a fair and
equal praxes with T.'s:inter--whether we are ever to
remain, through a false principle of dig-
silty and consequence? at war with that coun-
try ? or are there any tenns, whiCh mieht
be offered in the present sitnation of &dairy,
we may accept ? This sedation will, at least,
be attended with some gratification. It may teach
as to contract our wishes to the reale of our eepec-
tatious, if it afford us even no hope of pacification.
Let the decision of this House be what it may—
let rue here avow myself the determined enemy of
perpetual war, and en this feeling, I trust I have
the best and most upright part of the country with
me. !tun, and ever have been, atriend to a peace,
if it con be concluded on any thing like fair and
equal terms. Eternal war rimst be our final rain. •
At all times, and under all Sovereieus, our only
'seemly has been maintained to consist in peace.—
such a peace must be founded on just and honour-
able terms; and hence, under the present circum-
stances of ourselves and enemies, peace is indis-
putably preferable to war. And peace, I have no
&else may be oleuitied on fair terms. His Ma-
jesty s Speech, umong many ether objectionable
prepoenions, asserts the present is merely a
a4taiitive war. But can it be said we have been
engaged in the present war merely in our defence?
Have we waited to be assailed ? or hare we not
been the first to effect a breach ? We have not
then been couipelled to resist, but we compelled
France to her'defenee. It is high time to desist
from the fan's, hope of blinding the world to our
views, as we have already stone the people to their
true intemets. Does there yet remain a hope of
better days ? Have our delays tended to establish
the greater security of any Nam that may here-
after be concluded ? What end has our procrastina-
tion elected ? Has our continued hostilities dimi-
nished our enemy's resources ? What new point of
attack has been discovered? What new means have
we procured for supporting our increased and
hourly increasing establishment ? What method
shall we pursue to subeidize afresh the last of our
allies ? Oh, perverse and blind infatuation ! How
shoetine is it to see a nation rushing headlong to
destruction by the isrtiiees of its Governors !
What means, hoverer najnstifiable, have not been
used to persuade the public that no peace can ever
be made with Frsuce, while it 'continues subject to
its present Ruler? As if fidelity or pacitiudion
were the ateribittes solely of a Royal race of
ehoriginal Monarchs, hereditarily derived from a
long line of sure-.,r,. This is a fatal error to
the lianas the people have been led to believe
there is no point of contact, no possibility of being.
• netted in the same bond Of Lesion as we have been
id years that are past ; and it is our common
interest we should once again endeavour to cou-
nest,. if noesible. more fuel than ever.. This pre-
judice has derived strength from the unsuccessful
efforts of two distinct and successive Adininistra-
tions to efPct peace. Our oegociations have hi-
theite, it might aepear, been ill-timed. They
have-usually tallowed upon the heels of the suc-
cesses of the enemy. After the terrible defeats
of Evlan and Friedland, the hopes of Russia were
dittepoiroted, and the territories of Prussia alto-
gether conquered and subjected to the power of
France. The allies were convinced of the impo-
licy of the part they had hitherto sustained, and
!evolved to wake way for a general peace, by enter-
ing into an armistice, which. was quickly followed
bytht iteeiz s i
ceraoln,Letnaci speechel A!ie pronounced
which,ace
while
frren the Throne, on the commencement of the
present session, and denominated the disastrous
Peace of Tilsit,' the Ministers must them-
selves know was not dictated by. despair, but
by a just sense of the relation in which the
cations of the Continent, at that crisis, stood to
each other. They well kilow this peace was the
preservation of the allied army, and the. means te.•
restoring to Piosdia the territories she hail fort's:. Ara
in the field. The peace of Tilsit, it is at lite con-
fessed, was the happiness, the security, and wel-
fare of Russia. It was an unexpected, and,
therefore, welcome deliverance. Nor has even the
conduct of Bonaparte escaped censure on this
head. Perhaps it is the only instance in which his
Generals have differed with him in the execution
of his mighty plans. He liss been roundly taxed
with imprudence in .;offering Russia to escar, at
the moment he held the balance of her fate in his
hand, and could have swept the Russian Empire
front the face of the earth. While the hopes of
pie eiler and aggrandisement have effected this
turn of thinking in the Generals of the French
Emperor; I cannot doubt a moment of this conduct
being a proof of theeineoinmon reach of under-
standing, and sound political wisdom, of that extra-
onlinary character. The conduct of the Itusaian
Eareeror has not only been misrepresented in as-
sighing a false cause for the conclusion of the
rri..„!!l', but he is also foully calumniated in assert-.
lug, that the mediation so frankly and honourably
proposed to this country, flowed from a wish that
we should ratify the deed of his despair, by enter-
in; into a treaty also with the Conqne or. But this
carries with it its own refutation. The mediation'
was f proposed before the conclusion of the Peace o
. to Lord Gs L. Gower, in the sincerity of '
heart for which the Russian Emperor has
ever been remarkable, until it became the po-
lwe of the present Ministry to revile and calum-
niate their long, faithful, acid approved friend
on the Continent. On Lord Gower's arrival in
Rnseis, after waiting for some time, till the army
came into cantonmeuts, and the Court became sta-
tionary, he informed General Budberg of the anx-
ious wish of his Government to enter into a speedy
negociation with Fiume, in concert with the other
belligerent powers; and in a further communi-
cation with him, mid, his Court had never entered
into war but with a view to obtain a permanent

peace. Can *stub be mall/ the seatiments of this
Noble Lord ? His he not discovered hi the desigr•
of England something neyond the mere hope of
procuriti{ a peter! ? Have there not been intro-
duefivt tato their plane of pacilicatioii many mijeets
extremely chimerical, if not absolutely uuju-n-
-fiable ? Does not the Noble Lard re;:ollect, that
in 18.05, he, as au Ambassador, was sent to that
Court to effect an union of the two enspires, for
the purpose, not of obtaining a just and fair
peace, but to crush totally the power of France,
and effect the complete ruin of the head of the
French Einpire, and this can be proved from the
very words siT the Treaty ? Are not these objects
very distinct (ruin the purl motive of just pacifi-
cation ? I ant couviuced of the tedious detail of
events and facts, statements and opinions, I have
been necessitated to enter upon ; but. I trust, the
patien-...e and attention of the Howse will be ex-
tended to me, not in proportion to my merits, but
to, the importance of the subject discussed.—
The objects of this league were avowed, and are
well known to embrace the Itestoration of Iloilo-

ter—the independence of I Tolland—the reinstate-
ment of the King of Sardinia in the territories
and appendages of Piedmont—the expulaion of
the French out of Naples, and even the evacuation
of the Island of Elba, and effecting a total change
in the order of things in Europe ; professing, at the
saute time,. there could be no passible safety to
Lay nation, or security to any treaty, until the
power of Bonaparte was totally .extinguished and
annihilated. The idea of obtaining pest e those
terms was indeed futile and romantic, and proved

miserably abortive. After the Late disafeeditt-
ineut of the Emperor of Russia, in oar
hag to co-operate with him in carrying on our
own contest. was it wonderful he should have
finally deserter! the mid schemes we had in-
flated him with Co his own destruction? Ilad
we not a proof of his firm friendship, before
the fatal battle of Friedland, when he declared he
would contend for the independence of the Allied
Nations to the last extremity ? And it was not so
very wonderful that be should have mentioned the
dieeeiatuie:a h., .o severely felt in our neglect of
treaty and stile... tion. Vet, in the seine letter, the
good intentions of the Emperor agaia break out
more solidly and effectually to this conary, by the
proffer of his mediation for Peace, with a fail con-
viction that France would accept fair and just
terms of acermenoilmion, and was then patth-
cally iuclined. In Russia there appeared the
moat ur.doubted dispositioa to eruct Peace,
and there' appeared a moral certainty, that were
we anxious to obtain Peace, we might have easily
secured it. This was the. golden opportunity we
have suffered to pass unimproved. If our disposi-
tions were pacific, why then did we manifest no-
thing hut political craft, and unworthy suspicion ?
We object against the mediatioa now, because of
the stipulation of the lath Articlemf the Treaty.
which limited the mediation, though that objec-
tionable clwas, as to the time of our acceding to
the Emperor of Russia's '; Ur, was not, ailed tone,
known here. Mr. Alopens's Note to Secretary
Canning is unelogged With any limitation of this
nature. No would this article have ever been a se-
rious cause of objection, on the part of France, to
any extension of the time of Russia's mediation.
This has bee.. admitted since by the Russian Mi-
niiter. The 'stair was made by the Emperor, ac-
companied by a Foutise to make hiniezif and his
forces the guarantee of the treaty, at the moment
he hail just reason to complain of our neglect and
infidelity. How should such an offer hare been
met? Surely not by formal suspicion, and petty di-
plomatic chicane. If we could not have accepted
the offer. surely we should hare felt gratitude for
the Prince who could recollect us aid oar interests,
even in his own misery. The first moineat the
sword was in the scabbard, his thoughts sere fixed
upon saving England from the evils he had ex-
penenced. Had gratitude been die played iu
our answer to his kind and faithful interference?—
The answers 'tis true, contained some sort of an ad-
mission of the -good disposition of !lassie towards
England ; yet in a most extraordinary way pro-
ceeded to *new our distrust of the Ethperor's iatett-
tions, by a demand of the Secret Articles of Tilsit.
When die terms of treaty had been defined by
both to he those of honour and ecikity, what ne-
cessity was there to send an Ambassador to know
those terms?—Lt could only be expected we could
treat on general terms ; 'twas then needless to
proceed to a specific demand of the particular
principles or terms on which we should proceed.
-which would remain to be modified by vire timistaaces.
While our Ambassador at Russia was demanding
the basis of treaty and the secret articles of Tilsit,
the Ministry sheltered themselves under the ne-
cessity of concealing the secret information given
to this country by Portugal. because the consent
of Portegal was not obtained. Such conduct is As
preposterous as their design is obvious. To any
=
they ere sworn enemies. United and con-
ted in this unchristian-like and desperate
slatae against the welfare of man, they dare not
avow their dark designs. Hence. they endeavour
to conceal them by specious pretexts, flimsy ex-
cuses, and diplomatic chicanery. The mediation
should then have been accepted as offered. But
we went even farther; not content with demanding
a basis, secret articles. &c. we proceed to state
the necessity of Russia giving satisfactory proofs of
her amicable disposition, by entering into a com-
mercial treaty first with us. How di ;gusting must
such mean, shabby artifices hare appeared in the
eyes of diplomatic charectere/Our assertion, that we
were interested in the secret articles of the Treaty of
Tilsit. all turns on an equinorpre, in the dispatch of
Getelluilberg. which is perhaps owing to the trans-
lation. If. thenahme were no secret articles in the
Treaty of Tilsit, why should our Ambassador re-
main one monthat the Court of attune. ridi culonsly
persisting in so unjust and foolish a demand ?
(Here he insisted at large on the incoosistency of
the two letters of Lord Gower to Mr. Canning,
both of the same date ; one containing the Pc-
count of the amicoble and friendly temper of
the Emperor, and the next, expreseing INTO'S for
the sudden change in his seatiments, on !leering of
the Danish Expedition.] We soon improved on
the demand, and sought both the secret and
avowed articles of the Treate. What folly ! The
avowed were knowisby the whole world—the secret
could not be known—Whe, them ask it her ? If
we really dratted to treat, we should have cle-

mended, not the basis of the mediation of ow
late Lrm ally, but rather the basis of a, treaty with
the enemy. Why not seed our basis to Lord
(lower. and plaiuiy 114'011 our iatentioa to refuse any
other ? Here there coald be no deceit insicused ,
but -we continue to dishonour and disgrace
General Badbe.re-, by still averting our mere-
Right Honourable Gentleman,
who seems to have beau deeiLy tainted with the,
',pint of diplomacy, has been migbily anxious
to conjure up the terrcru of these secret articles
to effect some secret puteose the whole of
which seem to have related tp the establis:unent
of the French power in Sicily.. Thus Lord
Gower's whole instructions were only cateut-triio
• prepay.: fresh objections to the entering on any Ivan
whatever of treaty or mediation, by insistiug ua
• Russia's breaking her treaty with France lira die-
closure of the secret articles, in order to wheedle
us into doing that which our dot!, ewillewlw4l44 us.
Independent of the Imam-ism of the principle laid
down, the impolicy of pearling for each a con-
cession, and the short-sightedness of Ministers in
sopecting the Russian GoYernment of such ab-
surdity, are too glaring. not to be condemned
by every impartial man in the country. Thus
the ri.iug affection awl contideuce of the Ras-
eian Emperor, for the interests of this country,
were in a inieneeit overturned by the-intelligence of
our conduct at Coeealeigen, which informatiou is
received by our Government here, in two letters,
which I doubt if auy mate of common sea-e and
C 0031110.1 honesty could pessilely write; but how
the Right Hon. Secretary could, on seeing the two
letters, write hack to Lord flower—' You may
accept the Russian Mediation, under terirei—
yrbew lie knew that the.elieiki.ieu of the H.essiao
Emperor had been completely revolutionized by
the circumstance of our attack on Copenhagen,
seems to me, in such a man, to he the effect of a
deep-laid scheme to effect some purpose totally out
of the reach of common conception. Yet this con-
fidence is at length reposed in Russia, under terms ;
though the same Secretary in framing the Russian
Declaration to Is as Russia has ever been in-
clined to act against England.' What in the world
can all thin mean? This assertion, recantation,

refusal and admission, nearly at the same moment
of time. It must at least he acknowledged to be a
very thief( woven web of inconsistency. To its
coatrivers, the purposes it was intended to effect
are hest known. It is much to be lamented, that
at this critical time there was not at the Court of St.
Petershurgh some men of capacity and address,
win,- might contribute to extricate. the ccutttry
from the disgra.e into which she and her
Ambassador, and, most of all, her Govern-
ment, must have fallen. Our Ambassador was
by no means a calculated to smooth difficui-
ties and obstructions, exalt confidence, and pro-
mote esteem : and tile nature of his commissions
were such, that should lie even have been the best
qualhkd person in the world to falfil his station,
he mint have beer. subject to so many flagrant
breach s of • decency and eonsi.tency, at would
entail oa him maiming.% and di,grace. Ile is next
cousensioned, it aßptiars, to demand the Raesian
Mediation, bet Weea this country and Denmark, im-
mediately after the Emperor of Russiu lied expressed
his irritation, when he just then had refused it-be-
tween En;laild and Frolics. In the early pastor this
proffered mediation we should hove either frankly.
accepted-It ate rivinlit7 from a tattoo arta had even
suffered its our cause, or have rejected it oa the
ground of our apprehetnions of the impossibility of
Resiia's. impartial mediator. This species
of half confidence ouraued, has ueen that and that
only which (ailed brave plunged us into thisae fatal
errors we Lave new to lament. Here the comedy of
errors at length ceases. Our Ambassador returns;
Let us next look at the conduct of His Majesty'
Government, reapecting a if miler proffer made is
April, by the Emperor of Austria, including all
the Belligerent Powers. In this filanifesto,
Count Stabremberg allows, that it is only by the
united efforts of the Belligerent Powers they can
ever hope for a permanent Peace. This extended
to all. Yet a particular notification waa made tt.
Busload; which it appears was unnoticed for
a consid;ratile time. No further offer was
made till the 30th but November. The reason
of the pause was, the offer .of Rasa& to Inc
diate, which caused Austria to decline in he:
favour. The - reason of the recommencement
was, the cessation of Russia's wish to interfere.
Peace is the wish. of Bonaparte. He wishes •
make our access to peace free and easy. Thus wi
have twice received proffers of mediation, to Which
he has wscoaditionally acceded. The Secretary
in the same sleclaration,atates the disposition of
the King is inclined to peace.'—Mere cant ! The
country knows by this time the wishes and desires
of that Minister too well. He is au enemy •
peace, but dare not avow it. A concealment of it
real sentiments, and an assumption of others,
widely different, to serve his purposes, are nut th'
only blesisings he has de/iced from the theory e
diplomacy. To Count Stallremberg't offer At
Conning writes back • Exhibit some proofs of your
being an accredited agent of that country, sines
we know you not in your asstim.id capacity/—
How conciliating this conduct ? What a dispositioi
to entertain a proposition for peace? Or rathsr
say, what a disposition to cavil and contend about
trifles the least (venial ? Through whom could he
have received this commission, but through the
Emperor his master? To
.put such an interroga-
tory was to insult the Austrian Ambassador, as
as display our desire of continuing the war.
We should have met the question fairly. has
cleared all trifling difficulties, by unofficial eNpls.
nations or conversations, and proceeded fairly and
candidly to discuss then the basis of a just and
honourable' treaty. When the propagation was
made. we- demanded negociators should be sent, •
every thing lay in that ; why then, in God's nam
did we nut lead the way ? Oh ! we must not
to Pans,.forsooth. Why not fix on some other
_place. by mutual content? Here again we
wand a basis. 1 confess I see no nece-Li
for this demand. Why? 1341 not this
same basis rmve the destruction and hone
the late negoviation ? Of this opinion was
Pitt I...ape-A* the Treaty of Amiens. For con-
sistency sake, the Right Honourable Fes:re-
alms:A not have then continued the needless adji
mint of n let is, inner lie professes h i.,.elfa
of that g. eat master. Oa one thing. he sud 1. sad

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I believe all Lanced men at lewd will beeenviffilled. • ,
the inconvenience of any defined bales, vs lliele Vast
ever fluctuate through circumstances, mall halts
of the !future of all by turns. In sending a Mireiter
to treat of peace to France, I can see no objection.
My Lord Lauderdale and my Lord Malmodeary
both went for that purpose to Trance, and I have
never heard they had season to complain of the
conduct of the French Court. Here I .citist say, I
think the Ministry have exhooasted all their drol-
lery of petulance an& indignity on tMs stsfelvet of
Cruet Staliremberg's having conetialkett hitheelf
Munater without any authority, ea Mite they
resolved •to refuse any answer 10111111110sfie •It
served their purpose. They felt issevolleallefftaiant
to tale of peace, however remote•the proopeee 'ln
this, at least, their conduct is etendiesed uniform.
tender them no peace or negotiation weemreeteetrie
toa Inippy termination. if everthere had thellacr ep-
portute es of putting France to tee test, and fbesiseing
ever:, thinglike prejudice, it woos ihnltaistficeillibn.
In weat situation do you new stand to-Frattee ?
Tim first proffer of peace was refused ; the next
every thing but refeeed. And here let um gale my
opinion on the comparative meet of tree Lord
Hawkesbury, whose character the Right Hen.
. Secretary has taken the liberty of scrupulouoly and
fastidiously exeminieg and coielenining. Let Me I
tell the Rage' Hone leecreteryetelo not beliitve the
Noble Lord would have made nny thing like so bad
a hand of the negociation, bad it been confirle4 to 1
him officially; nor do I. think that the .Niffile i
Loot would suffer by any 41103100 in Silk; eninro44.oll
With him as a Foreign, hlinister. Tee '.abler rhSrcl
would certainly make a far better. Olf steta is
truly alarming. Engaged iu war with a great 163•
1
Cmcs..sehn_ontp.claLiawl xitn. kihnodscits ether 416:
nite resources by the means of oar vain oppaseleo
ameassaults ; in vain have we excited Bacon nema
ruction against her ; they have all liwelled the VA- • ,
umpla of her train. We alone. remain. .' Athvi
since our enemy cannot subdue es by
.;feree,
we are resolved it shall he effected by our ewi)
*caissons, obstinacy, and madness. In this sitiuttiOn.
deserted by our Allies, from France, oniX
and insulted, we can expect nothing
bode of concession. Nov is there any hreell'ale •
negotiation for a peace, which *lone csn, rase' s
from destruction. Our elliiistry cry nut, they are
determined to wait for au impartial :set ester. Nu-
, rope has been searched, but in vain. 'The Ifeee-
: volciice of our friends ham been treated with ear:-
, tempt. The generosity of our enemy outraged by
indignity. With unparalleled folly we idea .
spurned the proffered blessings of peace, theta
twe
r preseuted by the venerable hand of set*
lity,aud,with a maniac's fury, dashed from our lips
f the draught whi cis alone could rescue us from delth.
- I have been chmtiased, not seldom, by the Mom
Gentlemen opposite, merely for calling neon them
i to take the means of entering nem; that negocia-
f tem which they have so often in their mouths. but
, so little in their intentions. I have called *spots
t them to meet the overtures of France ocrpoettoseir .
I own .petits, and at !emit to ascertain the , a
t of the enemy. It is nothing novel or on
a ed that I ask from theta. Toe Noble Lord (Ca
meet
reagh) their colleague, can best explain to
ri tee principle and manner in whMe such a peke-
- dure was couduetee in the sea- 11105. In alert-
,/ vious occurrences of ties kiad there was, if tart a
I successful issue,Aliesst a digoieed webs ...0,-
e sestem of proceeng. My Loid tlrenvil
le he answered the overtime* of France, didit fals
g opet manly manner, suited to the dignity otitis
rs country, mei correenonding with his owe prouiand
it raaited sense of eh:see:ter. In diet Nobles:tines dis- •
el patches there was no seeking for epirammatie
of points, no labour exerted to direct a sarrtsme or
.; to indulge in ill-tithed repartee. lie manfully met
~* the question at lame, and stated the decision Of his
iu Government • its a direct eammiiiiiratiose e'lltei,'
ill ray the King's Minister,, •we are as anziaas as the
,o, west sanguine advocates for peace, to accomplish.
he that desirable object, and are only restrained, from
in the. conviction we feel that the attempt would hu-
ed titillate in failure and disappoiternefite To this I
to unswer, that even from that failure the advantages
,tar will ensue. The country would theta be convinced
eta of the urgent necessity which existed to to
en on the contest, all privations would be ex: used, *ll
le_ murmurs dissipated. The energies of the netien
lc: wooed be stimulated into action, and every hand
int Red heart united to eef:nd its honour and its
re, reenrity. 'Whence Jo I deduce this inference ? I
to deduce, it from the unerring experience of aw,
we fromthe history of every country similarly situated,
leh and under the operation of analogous cadge*. Let
ry, us but review that period of the Heitory of Holland,
of wheu, in the overbearing oppression ofLouis XIV.
'he for he, too, had his vices and his crimes, a deter-
res mination was expressed by that Monarch to destroy
to the power and independence of the Low Countries ;
ies when nothing could have faired their existence slid
os, security but the bold and determined spirit a the
the people, called into operation said to life by the
of mighty mind of the Prince of Orange ; called
Ile into action after every effort was ineffectually, on
our their part, code to divert the hostility of the I much
ace Monarch, and when they had almost entreated his
'— clemency and forbearance. The moment that the
ion pcoele of lloiland found him inexorable, the ma-
her inent that they saw be was intent upon impose
out ing upon them conditions to which they ought
ahe not to yield, and that honour and security were la-
the compatible with their acquiescence, they. then
oge- formed themselves into a mighty band, determined to
Nell submit to every- sacrifice, to endure every print-
r.— then, to risk every object, rather than the surrene
lave der of their independence. Springing from that
Oa- pedestal, the fame and glory of the Prince of Orange
and took its flight ; springing from that foundation.
and arrive the commerene spleudour and tee meets:ale
wags greatness of Holland ; such as that country en-
:, as joycd until the period when, by me, :aimecinent
me, and misfortune, it was subjected to titotr• tram-
tgo mels, under which it is now unhappily suffering...—
thou Similar would the feeling be which even the failure
de- of negotiation, arising ism the determiuitiou of
:sits the eiieney, would excite through every part of this
self country, through every class of its people. Vv bat
e of an effect must it not produce in the breast even of
Mr. those wen were most severe sufferers by war, when
con- you Ilse the power of raying to them, 4 Here, you
'Lary lite rvine manufacturers, as a foil smut ucauswerable
pet- proof t' you. that on cur part every measere ha
owe' beta aeopteci to °both, ea von it renews from you'
acid affections, eon:it:met with the character and :resit

eity of see etymon catchy. That honour and
secerilps the inossliaste ambition of the enemy has
sieterasseci to andeemine. it is he who has re-
felled to accede to jute and lio:..oursble proposals
fee the attainment of peace ; sad it is to hes hada-
bty. and injustice you mastattrbute the calamities
• unfortesiately suffer, and for the
• other alternative
Had tuck,,,g.„
is to wield, they
auu the hostile dis-
httle to fear from
`'teach Emperor.
persons in this
.• would willingly
co.emeneing a neg.*-
: that it would not
description, think-
not only be made
but that it also
reciprocal security.
y to its accomplish-
told, is a man of
, but not more co
(Idleness, that he
to carry his am-
Ambitious as he
to be led beyond
4 most advantage-
aoy tho,g proved this, more
incliner in which the late campaign was
Could not Bonaparte, when 'he eve-
Treaty of Tilsit, have completely aura.
whole ar:ny of Russia? Take him
in his
himself
and

tingits
when

personal
the

.
exhibited a
defective.

ftir
negocia-
that eta-
\ Bitola-
'4, Pe-

no
thin
this
...a un-
inordi-
.‘

designs,
? and
taught u c
indebted

:. no
crimes

un-
nu-

probability
career,
.4e in any
accelerating

new
In.
Louis
_ there
o'e-eminent
t, that when
ambitious
ores
rcsourees
fore-
then

hind of William of Orange to oppose aggress
; anti subsequeutly in. this country there ap-
peared the Duke of Marlborough and Prince.
Eugene, who •by their powerful talents reversed
the fortunes of Europe. And let it not be for-
gotten, that the legotry of Louis XIV. (Hear !
liter !) tended not a little to diminish the means
of his strength, and ultimately to defeat the ac-
compli.hinent of his projects. Let, then, the sun
of Peace shine upon this diatme:e4 portion of the
world, dud let the netioas of the earth at last
enjoy a breething tinie. 'The King's Ministers
may disregard this with. may turn a deaf ear to
-the prilluple which I recommend. Have thee
not learned from dear-bought experience the fal-
lacy and error of such proceedings? Are
they deterrniued to persevere an that come
of disaster, disgrace, and ruin, upon which
the war with France wag originally commenced?—
How often, from the place where I now address
this House, have they heard the same recommen-
dation from that enlightened in; id (Mr. Fox) un-
happily removed in this awful moment of her deo-
tiny, from the service of his country. if his ad-
vice had been acted urn. the bloody tragedy of
the late disastrous coalition would never have taken
place. I do sincerely hope, that in my humble
endeavour of this night, I but wad in his revered
steps. Would to God, that tins night he was en-
abled to place around me the pruteLtion of his
air& Had his advice been taken, tie once proud
mwereigpties of liurope would not DOW fie pros-
trate. -Bonaparte would not hare the honour of
trying his successful experiment on the military
means of the Coutiorst. Anitria would have been
reviving from her taisfortnnes, and Itassia hod still
remained unio.paired. There yet ronains one to.
ine, to which, with the penuimion of the House, 1
am ant:our to advert. The deliwion of conquest
is entirely disaipathd, the prophecies of oilroltunate
triumph are now totally falsified. But,' says the
P.hie Lard, having failed to subdue Bersapaste

by e tailita 17 and naval in runs, we are now de-
termined to conquer by our system of commercial
prirstioas. Is theses ch idiotism, not to speak of
the Kiag's Cabinet, but ip the peasant's cottage, to
encourage such a delusion ? The rage of wur has
not, fortunately, been felt in this country, if it
had. the probataity is, that amongst our opulent
uicrebants, who only know the miseries of war in
the payment of the mum . the love of peace would
be more generally dtifused. The Right Honour-
able Gentleman Then briefly recapitulated the na-
ture of the Resolutions ,hieh he had to propose,
and concluded his, most able kid eloquent speech,
by moving--

vemonia,..nm it h the minion of this Rouse, that
the coachileie i- - r His Disiowt.; Ministers for the
dy es at the reerceces allated the fisperor of
were iaussiseiset eniAnpelltis.
a liaoskai, Test ft Is die spokes of this House, that the
eaerleraef Ina Majesty's Monsters on the goblets of the
manilas idlest by the *apse, of Arens, se.is unwise
VoleWlair awl esnietstainisi to messiah' hew far the
erlbe Wallet not have
Mee attaimMegitillie mem Of with mediation.
"* ~saathis lids it incumbent upon
*Mira &dig% Out doers Is aslYtag in the present vireos.
steams Odle war which eagle Is preclude Um Majesty
Neel eakele*ag hay fair opportmity of acceding to, or
COMISICIAL a hageriatiou with the Enemy, on a biotin,
at apidity' foe the termicatiou of hostilities, on terms of
justice Ilalileustri."
Thoßight Hon. Geoeoe PONIIONSY then spoke
to the followiug eifect.—" Sir, Last sensible of
the disadvantage under which t rim' to address
you, after the admirable specteh . of my Hose
Friead, who has just sat dows, • In the two first
resolutions proposed by biro, I 'perfectly concitj.
as also in the substance and matter of the third.
although I differ entirely with him with teapot to
the propriety of preening it at this moment. I *agree
in the first resolution, because I plainly perceive,
in the King's Alinisters, a temper and tone of feel-
ing, a disposition and leaning of mind totully ad-
verse to every prospect of paiitication. And
on this part of the :"abject, 1 must be allow-
ed to say, that nothing but the weakest jute-,
gination could he brought to conclude, that
because one Power, under the *penalise of
events out of its controul, is utifortunatehy placed
under a momentary depression to another, that,
theiefore, a third Power ought not to accept its
mediation. In Russia and Austria you had two
Arm and tried friends, allied to you both by inte-
rest and disposition, and who, though alienated in
appearance, to the cause of England, must sin-
elerely, though secretly, wish, that she possessed the
preponderating influence in place of Franc?. It
is impessible, in a war so pregnant with events
as this has been, not to have seen this principle
acted upon iis as variety of instances. What was
your 'situation in regent to Holland? With that
country, as in alliance with France, Great
Britain had been at war now near twelve
para. and yet, during that interval of time,
dlisnmantry had received but one effort of hostility
ihniathat point. On every other occasion, save in
the measorable engagement between Lord Duncan
and Admiral De Winter, the Dutch made no re-'
sistance to the attacks of this country. In the East
led* a squadron struck to the British t'oin-
lmoolkit without a broadside; and the great pro-
portion of the Dutch ships were surrendered to
us in the Zuyder Zee. Why, therefore,
should the King's Ministers suppose, that those
other Powers, by temporarily succumbing to the
domination of trance, were, therefore, become
really enemies to Great Britain ? It Wll4, in
my opinion, the weakest policy thus to have
refused the mediation of those Powers ; riot that
I am of opinion that peace ought -to have been
made with France, but that the King's Ministers,
by their refusal, should not have insulted and af-
fronted the proffered mediation of the Courts of
Austria and St. Petereburgh, for in no other light
than as an insult can the mode and manner of that
refusal be cousidered. The question which, icon
the resolutions proposed, we are ealledon to discuss,
embraces the interests of' this country iu their va-
rious branches, and most remote hearings, and that
at a moment the most formidable that ever caked
in its history. Dangers, thus formidable in
themselves are, in my mind, considerably aggravat-
ed. when 1 reflect upon the system of conduct the
King's Ministers have pursued, and are now deter-
mined to persevere in. Do they mean, I ask, to
continue this system of warfare against France, with-
out recurring to those means which are alone cal-
undated to enable it to bear up against the pressure?
Do they mean to persevere in their mode of oppo-
sing France, withont directing their attention to the
safety and security of Ireland ? lie this island there
ciso 'dates but one mend and enthusiastic feeling.
Every Englishman is actuated with that spirit of
loyalty which tells him it is his first duty to oppose
the power and influence of France; but I should
take 'shame to myself, were I to conceal what I feel
to be the truth, that there might circumstances af-
fect Ireland its. such a manner as to make a deep
Luression. hostile to the safety and connexion of
the BAt7ss atpire. Se tong, therefore, as there
rernaio in Ireland great causes of discontent,
so lung will continue the sounos of greaf weak-
ness to this country, of great hope and strength
to France. is then hostility towards that coun-
try to• be forwarded by the prosecution of their
obstinate warfare against Ireland, or by their new
system of commercial privations, that is, by doing
that against your own commerce which BOnapurte
would do were it in his power ? How comes it that
in the former stages of your hostility with France,
you have not resorted to this mole o' annoyance, if
it is as effectual as the King's Ministers pretend ?
But at all es eat., let them no longer conceal from
the canary its real situation ; let them no longer
holdout fete hopes, or misrepresent relit grievances,
with a view to evade pnblic investigation. There is
not the meanest peasant in England, but ought to
know the true circumstances of the nation, amid the
manner in which it is likely to be affected by the
new system, on which the King's Ministers are de-
termined to act. I now proceed to the third pro-
peait ion of my Honourable Friend, mod am induced
to take a step. to whi'ch, I need mot amity him, I
am led by a.visry strong sense of public duty, accom-
panied with no email share of regret. I am induced
to differ in any proposition which in its naturewould
directly tend to make it imperative on His Majest_y's
Ministers to sue for negotiation to France. For
although I conceive the attainment of a just
sad houourable peace to be always the sound pa.

luny of this country, still l aui of opittios. that tiAa
is not the moment for the House of emulsions to
make such ii deelaratiou. ludeed I differ from the
tiiird resoluliott, because I apprehend its ncloptioa.
would hunt ediatelvoperate to preclude the object of
toy Houourable Friend's sincere wishes. From s
adoption at this moment, one or the ether of these
tap results would proceed, either that this House
would force Ministers to take steno, the effect of
which would probably tend to increase the preten-
sions of the enemy, or that if they should conclude
a peace, such as was not consistent with the honour
and security of the country, this House would,. by
its resaiution, enable them to shift the reamer:bi-
lity from then ,selves upon this House of Parliament.
In such a state of cousequeuces, the King's filtiii.
eters, when brought before this House, would
very probably justify themselves under this very
proposition. 'they would say, We are not the wa-
tliors of this measure, it was forced upon us by
yonrselves. If the treaty that has been conclud-
ed tins either overlooked the best interests, or com-
promised the character of the country, it must
look to Parliament for such an effect ; and if there
is reproach due, upon your heads be it, who forced
us by your decision to contravene our own fixed
mud unchanged opinions. The House was impa-
tient, the country was clamorous, and to those ns-
dueements we alone acquiesced.' My Hon.
Fi lend has refeaed to the petitions which were
poured in from the country, previous to the con-
clusion of the Aineritin war. I cannot consider
the caves at analogous. In the firmer instance,
the object for which war was 1i0R..! commenced and
continued, became untenable. To reduce America
to submission was considered hopeless, and there-
fore the public, sense of the country exerted itself
to put a termination to a foolish struggle, where
Great Britain had to contend with all the iusentives
arising from love of independence, • strong feeling
of human rights, and the enthusiasm of country.
also feel it my duty to oppose that resolution, be-
cause it would operate as an encouragement to the
sending a still greater number of similar petitions
from the distressed and suffering manufacturers of
this country, and all others who feel themselves ag-
grieved by war. What do these petitions complain
of as a principal source of their distresses? They
complain that the markets of the Continent are shut
against the manufactures on which they work, and
they do pray for peace, under the hope that with its
other blessings it would re-open the accustomed
channels of communication with the Continent of
Europe. Suppose, for a moment, that those peti-
tions had such an effect on His Majesty's Ministers
as to induce them to take the steps for opening a
negociation with France, must not Bonaparte im-
mediately ask whence proceeds this sudden chai-Je?
It is not six weeks ago since you refused the pro:-
feted mediation of Austria, after a previous refusal
to the Court of St. Petersburgh. If we then tell
him that the pressure the war has created is so great
thet the impediments which he hoe thrown in the I
' way *four trade androm merce have operated against
• os with such considerable effect, that it is absolu:e-
ly impossible for us to exist without a 4, lunation of
them, is there a man in the country who could
fancy that such a statement of our sufferings will
induce him to mitigate them? Will the *French
Ruler my, it is true that I have now been fighting
for 16 years, to reduce your greatness and dirniaish
your security, to cut up the sources of your trade,
and destroy the channels of your counnerce.but now
at the very moment that I find myself successful in
all my objects, that I have consummated the work
NB which I have so long fixed my stedfast attention,
aid to the completion of which I directed my most
*Bier hopes; but now, because I find that your
mannfacturers are starving, and that your citizens
are without bread, I will suddenly undo all my pre-
vious exertions, and relax the system of severity
mid privation, which I have so successfully carried
lei° execution. Indeed, Mr. Speaker, if these pe-
titions now upon the table of this House, are to
have the power of forcing Minister, to snake a
peace with France, and that because the pressure of
this country has been so great, and the distress so
irremediable by any other means, then . I innit,
in most decided language, pronounce Great Bri-
tain to be (what 1 feel it is not) a conquered coun-
try. (Hear! Ater! from both sides of tb,e House.)
It may be necessary that this country should suffer
further—it may be necessary that we all, of every
description in this country, should undergo abso-
lute privations. I have still such an opinion of the
firmness and manhood of the British people, that I
feel convinced there is no affliction to which they
are not prepared to submit, rather than degrade
the character, or impair the security of their coup- -
try. Though I have thus stated my opinion in
opposition to the resolution of my Honourable
Friend, I still feel thnt a rational, regulated view
to peace is the first duty of this country, and
therefore I by no means pledge myself to say that
in a very short time, nay at the end of a week,
)circumstances might not occur to induce my
acquiescence to the motion now proposed. The
`only differencebeeseeen me and my Fie,. Friend,
in all the very enlarged and extensive outline,
which, from his comprehensive view of the world
he has taken, I say, the only difference between
us arises as to the proprietx of the present time for
Dressing his resolution. He is a little holler then
I am on this subject, and therefore I shall feel it
my duty, shonld my Honourable Friend press the
third Resolution, to move the previous ques-
tion."

Mr. WILBERFORCE followed en the same side
with Mr. Ponsonby, and at the same time that he
implored his Honourable Friends, His Majesty's
Ministers, to direct their serious attention to the
means of effectine a safe and honourable peace—
he still considered it the duty and true interest of
the people, to suffer their great and lamentable
privations, with the hope of final safety.
Land MILTON expressed himself warmly. alive to
the distresses of the numerous manufacturers re-
duced to dreadful want and wretchedness by the
result of the war, together with the mischievous
means which the King's Ministers lied taken to re-
taliate on France. He still was sorry that he mast
differ from his Honourable Fnend on the °attire
of bin proposed resolution, And he only did so be-
cause, in hs opinion, it tended, if not to aggravate
the impediments to peace, at kart to prec.ude the
speedy arrival of that happy period.
The Honourable Mr. ill ARO, m a meet &Inquest
speedo, warmly supported Use reposition of Mt.

Wbitbeead. Re though it at least the dafty'nf
Parliament to interpose on this great subject be_
tweeu the inifortunes of a burdened country, an,
a. Aliaistry who search with a sort of rilicros,opie
eye toe erery thing ia the shupe of evasmo, every
tlimg winch they can elude the probable RISIM,
of eftectiug a negotiation. In aplireciatiag sack a
question as this, a questiou, aboo.-hing every feet
camitig home to the bosoms and business ot'
mankind, affecting present interests and future
hnpes, the first point to be ascertnesd, was the
object for which this county, continued sr
wic ? It had assent :d a.> Many hues as We
Cameleon, and now cou:d only ha deiloated
SA a contest without a cause." Ile then book a re-
view of the various unsuccessful plans since the
commencement of the *lir the mighty Power
of France had cruglical the frantic and disostrol,:
fourth coalition. "Then it was the ground fi,uillj
give way, and the materials slipped from our fe,,,
Nor did there remain peel, one solitary hope t:
those dupes who dreamed of victories at Anite..
litz and Eylau. I kar he:ir Why then
continue the contest? What was the hope whe:i
France had vanquished all lEJ:r enemies on the
Continent, and this country had alienated all
her allies? There was none. War had diet
a natural death, the fire was ettinghished fur the
want of feel." (Hear ! /war !)

Mr. BLATCIirOID considered Ansttia and Ru...
sia unfit to mediate between France awl this cone-
Lord Manor saw no objection to the third Re-
solution.

Mr. Jos &tura thought nothing aelvantagebus
could be acquired by a prosecution of the i%
Mr. Secretary CANNING. in a speech of urni.-
derable length, which, from the lateness of the
hour, we regret we cannot give, warmly opposed
the resolutions. He contended that the mediation
of Russia and Austria could not be accepted from
the manifest influence of France in their councils.
Mr. W. Smtsit suprrted the Resolutions. He
was followed by Mr. SULIUDAN, who, in art ener-
getic speech, deprecated the idea of delay, as pro-
mulgated by his Right Hon. Friend !Mr. Forma-
bv). He concluded. by moviig " That the House
be adjourned to this day."
Mr. ADAM opposed the motion of adjournment.
He would give his affirmative to the three resolu-
tions.

Mr. SHERIDAN then withdrew the motion.
Mr. M HATBRE•D riernmeneed his reply at four
o'clock this morning, and ably aJswered the Tandy
of observations that had 'alien from the priteedin:;
sPeakem
The House divided. and orrthe first Resolution.
there appeared.
or it
Aisloat it 210

• Iffajoray 140
Seea►d division on theocoond Pe.flutioa,
• -

Aye*
leas.
Majority 144
, On thethird resolution heit:7, put from the Chair,
Mr. Gaeta* Pomsowsv role, and moved tie
previous question, when a division took place, sod
there appeared,
kur it, 21'7—Aintree it, is—Majority, tag
Adjourned tat UAL PAST FIVE o'Clock
this Morning.

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,Mintsieri such a weapon as this
ba••liatie.Oewrobsoil from
et ConhaasoW ato rope, hti
/ • ralonalless issilkir if the Ffl
I aia sowimind drat ereeennte loopy
. assoksiiil is ibis astioWy, who I
=ll.ie Os 1.011111“ af. co.am
IPatidad retry felt certain ti
seassml. I ass sst iose of this deo
*gal &tint peace could now no
riIeMMIS fair condition, I
hi • with full noesd
4 salts is the dificulty to
~. lima ? gimparte, we are told,
gas
ambition. He is, but
; but with this difiei
.
the power of great talents I
jects into exemition. 41
fat h never suffered himself tc
As pint at which he was placed Ti
*ply. Could any thing have pro,
asa the manner in which the Ws

noneluded ? Could not Bonaparte, when-le exe-
cuted the Treaty of Tilsit, have completely aura.
hileted the whole army of Kuria ? Take him
spin at Campo Formic, when Vienna was in his
pour, did lie, in such item:ions, raker himself
-
Übe governed only by his ambitious passions, and
thirst for tqgrandisement ? rlid such a feeling
.'ante afire the battle of Austerlitz : or did
, atteraulify any such intention, either by the de-
• Misesien of the Austrian capital, or by insultingits
. • t All these facts go to prove, that when
it his iutereet to make peace, no personal
intervened. on hi part, to prevent the
at ? What bee of coaduct did this
. ...
• uhihit towards the enemy ? It exhibited a
• radically wrong. and throughout defective.
comported itself in a manner suited, not, I
say.tenek n boost but even to conclude an ordinary
sersaigukuot? Have you ever se:lt to France, for
the purpose et discussing. the merits of a negocia-
tion, a pen= acceptable to the rnler of that em- ,
pipet It wee kflit last year that the King's Mini.-
. 'erotism my Lai Genet to the Cenrt of St. Pe-
' , ter:burgh from their preview knowledge that that
ihilism"; was ranch respected by the Emperor of
~. Ira. It was true that Lord Whitworth had
sent to Paris, but I wale:id that he hes been
roily mistaken in his opinions and views relative
, Sp the into.itiona of the French Emperor. (A laugh
...Asa the Hiaiaterial aide.) Let the Gentlemen
opposite deride and misrepresent me u much as
they thiak proper, I still deprecate, though no
einhisist for !Nance, this inherent animosity, this
Oltiespig personal gnarrel, which every man in this
• apposes to have with the ruler of that em-
are every moment told of his inordi-
, of Ins injustke, his cruelty, his die-
' airy law, human and divine ; still all
allegations; will not justify it. Do we not
that Providence, itiltie inscrutable deigns.
liflen. acts by the worst and vilest instruments? and
eat the history of our own country taught tic
in the rises of Henry VIII. we are indebted
wens of the reformation? Indeed. in no
More have we ever heard of the crimes
s 1: .inerardips being introduced as impediments to
amusements between two great empires.
poser ef France, by profiting of the Wu-
.
, of his oppenenta, has raised himself to his l un-
it
dented rank in the military annals of pa-
=
Still there is more than a probability
that when be has terminated his earthly career,
• end God ferbid that there slmuld reside in any
breast in this country a thought of accelerating
such an eve:it; by unjustifiable means, that a new
- combioation of circumstances would arise. In.
in again recurring to the reign of Louis
IV.we mutt recolitet, that at that period there
existed equal apprehension at the pie-eminent
power of France. We should recollect, that when
The Pyrenees were leveled, and that ambitious
Monarch, with the able men who presided, over
his Councils and directed hit financial resources
had aimed at universal conriucst, the same fore-
boding and distrust existed. But there was then
the hand of William of Orange to oppnee aggres-
ion ; awl substrvently ilk, this tountry there an-