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,F 3i :la ifivai ei 60-ialetielto ,
al' W iped, at essiclisote. The es emsfactOry
at F Ind shim the petite
re . . bet &s tilted.* of sweee'lllkee "iiittit
to resole there would have bees,
1 .
itia. lie. the keeping OR °I. the eitilfl4
lif Slayers. 11 pa/ theta re ilm.fiat.
pnagniAnAsqi it on Instil tha stens abash' bin
used. The refining and preparing of c. ~'
sulphur, end sidtperte, had teen retried' on. .
since that time. and the ditty of the ismikair
lowtsi
to ;asinine tlittec legato, 'wady as Medi as it Mlle
to inspect the gunpowder after it was plialpaaraii
Another mistatement was, that 1180.11001: sift
charged as for repairs of work., whereas the sulk
really charged was ouly 90,000 f. The herd of coii..
resit Services was thou accounted for. The engi-
neer officers had no barrack., no sees, no coals emir
candles, and no travellingespewers within five mile*
but a gra " y was given them in lieu of such al-
lowances, of the smallness of which they bitterly
coptpliiined. Mach of She extraordinary cherac-
ter of the Honourable Member's statement weaned
to be derived from has having mistaken the
difference between an estimate end an accoupt.
The Hon. Gentleman steted, that the expeustr
ledger shouldbe regolarly laid before the House
evny year. Oa that point they were seiresd, sod
perhaps the only one in his whole speech. But
that Gentleman complained, amongst other things,
of the expense of the barriu:k of St. John'a Wood.
But the answer to that was simple. During the
war ws were obliged to have additional barracks
near London, and unfortunately we hsppened hot
to he able to dispose of that. although we should be
excessively glad to do so; and he could aware the
Hon. Geutleman, as it seems to have caught his
attention, that he would sell it to him very cheap
—Ol luatgli.j—Much had been said about clerks'
hash% retired on full salaries after four years ;service,
but be defied that Gentleman to produce one stogie
instance of it. Oise point more and he had dime •
it was a trifling one indeed, and had been stated
by that Gentleman in his usual manner, that is
incorrectly, grossly incorrect, that clerks had 500 I:
a year salaries for selling old stores. Now he
was quite positive that was not the fact. But he
protested against the whole conduct of that Hou.
Member this evening, and he was sure there was
not • fair man on that side of the House that
would not say he bad beets uufably dealt with.
He had been called upon to night to discuss the
affairs of the Ordnance for many years back, with-
out a single document or papers of city kind to
refer to. Before he sat down he would make
this observation, that had the lint'. Gentleman
come to the consideration of this qaestion without
any party feeling, he should have told the House
that since the period he alluded to things were
materially altered. He has Dot stated that every
tiling has been raised in its value siuce that time,
and consequently the pay of mew. He has made
no mention of the return of the accounts of Ireland
since the Union, 100,0001. a year. He has not
said one word about the improvement of the artil-
lery, the different arms that have been introduced
. since that period, said abate all that glorious addi-
tion to our establishment, the horse artillery.—
And all there things, he should hive told the
House, had been added aince the happy days to
which be alluded, when the Ordnance &Inmates were
400,000!. a year. Now he was ready to admit that
there were still many improvements to be made,
and he should be always happy to have the co-
operation and advice of the Hon. Member (Mr.
Hume) ; but, really, when he took all these thing,
into consideration, the only thing that satirised
him was, that the estimates were so low.
. Sir It. FitßaNSots would not follow the Rt. Hon.
Z-
utleman through the whole of his speech. Ile
.
_an conceive that the lost impression had been
-mode on the House by the speech of the Hon.
Mover, but he wished to remark that it would be
much more convenient if the estimates were laid
before the House distinct, and not in a lump.
Sir HENRY PARNELL wished to cell the atten-
tion of the House to a document which would sheer
that the Rt. Hon. Gent. opposite was not wine
so pure as his statements would lead one to think.
It was the sixth Report of the Committee of Fi-
nonce, he would read a section of it.—[The Hon.
Baronet did eo.l--It stated that many abases had
been corrected, but that in the o.duarice, this
practice hail been carried great lengths.—(Hear.)--
Nave really he thought this was very strong rvi-
&lnce in currobonstion of the statement made by the
Honourable Mover.

Mr. TRIMAT mu objected to having the estimates
laid before the House in huge sums ; if they were
produced in distinct sums. it would be much more
convutieut to any person who might wish to oppose
a particular port or them.
W- ad,-

the Hon

Sir WAI. CONGREVR .ddressed ,at
we could toot distinctly hear what he stated. We
understood him to say that millions of money had
been expended on the machinery for making gun-
wrier, and it would be a pity to abolish tt.
Mr. WARD explained.
The House then divided. The numbers were—
Fur the Motion 4.
Agniipt it.

Majority l4
On our re-adtnis►iuu to the gallery, Mr. HUME
Moved—
" That an Account of the Annual Expenditure of the
office of Clerk of the Ordnance attueid be laid before the
.House, tut or bcfure the ISth day of April."—Urdered.
And ulau—•

ft That a Return be made of all allowances, pension.,
super led salsit:es, &c. in the same department."—
Ordered.
Mr. WARD moved, that the Ordnance Eatimates
be printed.
Mr. 1111116 objected ; he said they were quite
nugator,, they afforded nu information.
Mr. HUSICIPSOII complained of the inconsistency
of the Oppovition. Every thing that hail heen de.
sired iv granted, and he now objects to hare the
statement. printed.
Mr. Hume would not lire's the matter to a divi-
sion now, he should take some other opportunity.
Sir .1, NEWPORT wished to know whether there
would be nay opposition given to the Resolution he
lied to propose ; if so, he should postpone it, if not,
he should move now.
The Cita/mm.l.os ot the EICHIQUXII expressed
• desire to have it postponed, which was dime to
Monday next. •
)jr, C. Gs*lT brought iu a Pill for regulating