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%trims been compensated with se entaltiostiairse
of 1,4001. belittles the payment of a 846411101. ind
..the, enotinweneies,
.anioutiting
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.Februlty l&st to the , souse •
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ft was his, intention to follow rap ishiareseletainat with
anothert descriptive of the.Repens end the dates of
their beteg received, surd 'alas Otte •issimirets Sent.
,ift
to theanplication.of theCotaminionets bribe Lord
Chancellor, and the Judges of the King's teittOg'
and Catutuon Pleas ; and then he istsnded to cow-
dude with a rensletiou highly censor .ble to Ike,
Secretor/foe/ •Sbite. and the other officers who lotli
teen. sit reasisi its to check' the optiOtri# Of." die
;Cotanneeiou Ilik various delays, suet .oeutleted • the
whole expensi,aud all the. labours of -liabCossimia.
stoners totally unprofitable to abs mobile.
,He
moved the first rSsoltitisii." •''''"' -' ".
The AriMetrat:Galftfaist.l44llSed the iktisist-
went of the Cosniniasion. He could eonceive midis sig •
,ass proper a. sopoisiting such pervoent &kg had eXPe-
timer and knowledge in the bushes, of theoffiets.
which were to undergo examination. Ile inaintsii4.l
ed tint the fees in Chancery were limited to lliftieir
commeuded by hold I laidoicke iu 1743. Ife:iller-,
fended the practices in the mimes 000e$ of that,
.Court. The House would fired en Wcotopaiimo, that
the English Conimissimers hod 'ittorteneiiie WWI the
Irish Commissioners. They had made four Reports
"on theVonrts of Chancery, Kitiog's 'Broths Ftlf?-•
neon Pleas, and ,Fleet Pri-00, emstainto44 486'
. gauges, whilst the Reports of the Irish Cillali&F
sionertt oily amounted to 400 pipes. %Yids re-
,lipect to the Commissimiers, too out of the five
were Masters in Chanrrry. Whose knowledge Of
'7 the subject under inquiry rendes ed them poe soberly
' fitting for the appoititmeut ; and from tke.clistracter
of those individuals, there could not be the slightest
ground for the insinutttion that any persona'. turbot
appointed for the purpose of sesreiting ithitsm*:47:
The Lard Chancelkur hid done is mud' so was iu
hit mews. With respect to those officers of Ike
Court over whom he. had a control, he had exer-
cised it, and the officers had attended to it, and
what more could be dome? With respect to tnany
of the fs es, lie apprehended that persona claiiiiiiig
them bad a vested right equal to a freehold, seventh
of the situations beiug purchased ;
.m 0 it wits.rio
ground of complsiut against the lord Chancellor
that he Intl not prOcevoled abruptly.egstitist•those
'persons, when it appeared that he bpd proceeded
with the utmost promptitude .•ith those over whom
he had a control. The Right Hon. Baronet (Sir
John Newport) cout'plitined of the Noble and
Learned Lord, as if he had no other duties to per-
form; but to attend tulle inquiries of this Com-
mission.. It was sot she duty of she Sectehtty of
State to communicate these Reports to the Jtulges
I of the Courts of King's Bench and Coinnirm Pltne ;
r`by the terms of the Commission itself; the Re wets
were to be returned into the Petty Bag '0 ele,
Is
and the Secretary of S'aie could lint kits p Cu the
Leonard Judges enigklit have had the Iflliortstroin
that office. As tio oboes hail been disCoWial 'in
the English Courts, the fair inference was; `that
• existed, and on the whole it istost appear that
the Comminioners had faithlully and lionourablv,
and to the utmost of their abilities, rzeouteti tile
matters confided to theist; lie should therOote move
. , ...
the previous question.
Mr. ABERCROSIBT said, the charge was, that the
Reports had not been communicated ti those whore
duty it was to curly them into execution. The
Hon. and Learned Gristle:Dan said it was not the
duty of the Secretary of State ; but lie conceived a
more serious charge could boldly be made aguiust
a Government than this, that a great sum of motley
had been expended for a given purpose, which pur-
pose had never been carried into efiect. The Se-
cretary of State was the person who ultimately com-
municates with the Judges; 40,000/. has been paid,
and after a lapse of two yearn, when his Majesty's
Government are asked concerning this serious tie-
glect. they make au answer similar to the permit
whom the House had been that evesoing examining. '
As to the appointment of the Comoonisiotiets. be
must say of she Learned Gentlemen who west in
it, two more inielligest or upright melt could not
have hem selected, but be thought it a misfortune
to themselves that they should have been, as it was
not possible but observations must he nude on that
oponiaitment. lie admitted that it was not imagin-
.ed by si.y one that there was any complaint against
the.Mosters personally. but there were coonolsiots
of what was dune in their offices. It appeared to
him that the Lord Chancellor hail barely done him-
shajustice in the Report which be hail made.
Mr. B. BATIMMIST said, the Lbw. and Learned
Gentlemen was usistakesi. The Secretary of Stine
never had communicated the It ports to the Judges,
he had is. fact sin more control suer them than t-he
lion. and Learned Gesitlemati himself. The Ihjoii.
Baronet (Sir John Newport) complaitied of the ex-
Tense of this Commiasion, but was there soy enor-
mity in that ?—//-hear, hear./—,-The Hon. Ilasotiet
had. (011ie 00111110 the House with MI aweepitig mo-
tion. int-Indio g the English, lends, rod Scotch
Courts. unit if he now complained of expense, it
was pt' his oast seeking, as he (llr. Mahound) be-
lieved she whole enquiry into the English Courts
might have been sinned.
Mr. BARING sued, the Right Him. Gentleman's
argument assioutited to this, that there was Ho proton
whose duly it was to eui iiiii unicate the Reports; to
those ...hose duty a was to set upon them. Out
he coutesided ;list where a Osumi-atom was granted
by his Alajesty on ass /Mdse.* fixes that Slim..., it
was the duty 'of Isis Alitjesty's Governinent to at-
tend to the results. The' hionw might hoe,,,hift.wh
from one to the other—from the Serssiary 4.l4itide
to Obi 'Pr i I.), Bog Officar, hot tertionly these oar
gross negligence somewhere. With 4'iepect to thi•
Comedians's. coneideiing ttr hands in which it -had
beau placed, he much frivOled that the at'lielm
of Isis Right Hops Fsiostd. (Sir J. Newport) had
ever beep asilko . becomes (Pith all deference t. the
Lammed filiatiuseet "OW *had• been tippointrit,
• 4pr IF ,141 ! , ,4,1 •

the Cominimiuners. i
r.,W.4411 maid, he oninkl not neepny the tittle
•
of te House loose, se amsther important question
?Senator dieguseionto-iitcht. Se reed in ohm his
AM. anti Learned Freesia (Mr. Alsereronats).bed raid of, the
(wit Learned CattliitllVll Whit were iu tbe einwasssainn i bat
eertaissly the inquiry might hate bees bissefielaily certitudes'
by others, as it assigist be *braved there was not , nee
Mann in ChanetipWp•of this four Commissioners in tist
• frieh Commission.- 'r''. • ' - - • •
Sir JOHN NEWPORT briefly replied. He wished to
• place shave Residuliono on Ark lommals, as he had Minion
more than once that Resolutions of his, chick had hams wit.
gatived, were, after a lapse of yesire,ieferred to by those very
prowsui who bad opposed them, mid oiled upon.
The two Snit Resulotioas were Mao pet, mad tiegetived
without a slivisiou. :.-r ,
(Ss the third Resolietiou the C dicey was cleared, **dike
{fosse divided. .Thisaalsokeliatt west lo centime aselfager
,whom 4W, it was to fogsgoyet..l lemons of thstOppopia•
siosters to the Jedgett.st ' of Kieg's work a
Common Pleas. , ~4 . : Is I. ,• •
• for the ROlOlOOllllll •• • • . . -....•••••.#
Against it... I'
IPOISIVS . •• • AS
PETITIO/flit )100.., kil 1117
t'itISLIAME, NT.
i ISe. JAM RS ores teit:s Petition $Bl 0 the citgAir Car.
• reenter for a Refines tin the Commons Iliarte;of Par-
, pest ;iv doiug which, he obeervid that the !y .off
,t
tons instead of being *hat it should he, the:piterlina
se a proter-tor of the liberties of the people, Gemmel' fie
~
stub
re:
Om Executive in imposing restraint* and ..,
~ i
fietlareee unavailing his riveting. might Ise, helhots
while itr• had the honour of a seat in that Here, everetal
este. Ws voice in protection of the ro:maiusing,*ll, of
.raoSiolls.l. flow mach better wou'd ibe.l4iisisma ,►M
trz
lisle /WI to the country by effectieg a pahlnity, rz . , e
.
"ell; Nsi an pursuing oweasrre dial may 111111Rept o
, 1 analeby and eessifnaion. !
...at
• SP CURWEN supported the Petition, ante iiiststerd the
HO use That it wee most reapectobly socueal. ,
,frflot Partition wag then received. aid tarilerml*lshiptinted.
ELECTIVE FRANCHISE. 4 t '
Lord JOHN ftessti.i. rose to cull the attention of
the House to this question. tie Still, that idthough
the proceedings which hail been gptiog forward of
.
late ill Parlininent did not sand 'Duch encourage-
ment, yet the proposittoir he had• to submit so the
consideration of .the House Mils ante so just in
principle and easy in practice. that lie wag sssdasced
to entertain strong hopes of succe.... If at be true
that all government must depend on opinion, it
is most true that the Government of this country
Ito Particular must always rest on thi opinion of an en-
Tightened people. Tlieir eyes were constantly turned
on that House, and viewer) as with a microacernall
' their proceeditsgs.liivieall offtivisig del supeistitious
reverence dust forineily wird to accompsoy audio-
rity, they are rather disposed to deny those advan-
tages-that are drnved room experience. Hut of all
questions that which was too' st difficult wan the re-
preventalion of that House, and none certainly,
occupied so largely the attention r 1 the pen
In considei nig the question on the pretteust occ
Ine,thould avo:d all the Intuit and obvious
.with which it was introduced... The na
vsourse would be, to cousin erne by ststitigl
I"Ntst that -House did Ilia represslqirtlvelleople, mid
i; •
then refer to then various dojoais4.lnport sue al
laertion. 'This he thought was lin Invidious course
Aletause it brought into eliocuesion the lett sir
.this as we l l *nor lief liarliameista. Alt hough he did not
mean to pursue this course, yet it mass tar from his
intention to deny or conceal that be was in ptinciple
• Reformer. What lie meant was, that this llowe
should fully and fairly represent the people's opi-
aions,and in point 14 fact I hey de nut do ao.—(ilear.)
—He was not one of those who thought that the
House of Commons should he a mixed represrotosiosi
of the ari.toctucy and the people. He thought it
should fully said tuunpletely represent the people.
lio much for his owe opinion. What he called Upon
the House to do was this, th it abuses and innova-
tions having crept into the constitutioo, they should
endeavour to check them, in order In avert the con-
aequencea that may occur. %Vali this view, the first
object to which he should cull the attention of the
House war, to the extrusive bribery and corny
that prevailed. Wish respect to this, there multi
.be.but one opinio.i, &tensely, that it was highly
etiminal and pernicious. %Vilest lie had the hutionr,
two fears ago, to addreis the House .on this sub.
ject, he then ventured to riatetbat it was a matter
of public conversation in that House, to haw great
An extent bribery and corn, in ion had been carried,
sad the Noble Marquis opposite (Londonderry), who might.
be considered the trailer of the majority in thin House,
did not venture to drily its existence, although if be could
have done so, it would deprive the supporters of his (Lord
Russell's) motion of a very strung argument. He retnem-
berril it was stated by the late Mr. Sheridan, that in cao-
missing some of his coostituents, on a particular occasion,
he said se tote of Hit voters that he !advocated the cause of
Ret•rm. " I am vary gnul of it," said she voter, " fur
I an told that some Gentlemen don't give one sin-
gle guinea to their voters, and this being the ease,
I think it is high time there should be some reform."—
(Ilene, and a fottpfa).-oThis system was carried to a most
alarming retest in Cornwall. In each of these boroughs
there is generally a peewit' who is considered the Patron of
the borough, and he generally provides for their waists sad
• supplies their necessities, in consequence of which important
millets he generally talcs his seat in Parliament, or *ends
one in his stead. The other seat le 'tonally sold. That this
is common and notartsoos, Ito man can deny; and that it is
iu the highest degree injurious, is equattycb ar. It ititrodaers
drunkenness and piolleciey amongst the people, a total dis-
regard for their duties to the Couto notion, and •u iris:44mo
and brutality distorting sorcery feelln4 and re it cluing (Mud.
Another evil that duos nom this system is, that it compels
Ilse Executive to endeavour to conciliate these voter.; a
further consequenee must he, that St corrupts the Govein•
mein, for they nanst naturally look to their patrons and
'' their supporters in order to olnain their weight in that
remise. Mr dial not make ibis observatiota as referring to
this ()overtimes't in pat ocular, nu more than any other,
hut in the stature of thins they resold not be OM. rwi.c.—
The tiovertammet most look with as great muomy to
throe small boroughs as to the large comities. The t dicta
of
this spew., thee, mono bitten all through the e out'-
. to. Are eau COMM 10 ciimirirr the remedy 'bat Avoid
11111 applied. and without adierting to shag occurred he.
Arra the Karnirtim, be weald say, that the tear after
the kr sreolutioss, • Sin was introdamed Ilia Parhassient to
poi vest She etesemetie - sap 110.41, of elections, sad be
should beg Pareasesieu In rend a part of the preamitle of
Slot Rill....(The Illublw tared the. wad an rourset from the
preamble, s !deb after stating the santom that existed,
smacted, that asp man who slandel In roaviriell of bribing
et so election, should be iocapa orslttlisg is shat Par-
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ateatl6rttly adhere, that the trietriveasf the ripple slotteof lie
beard he their representatives is Parliamect.—(llear.)--
Ht. n'tjert was to unite the people, to join theta together
heart sail hued, on that the streams a liessiony owl curt-
cord 8 "via( friar one majestic river, might fertilise mid
beautify ea ry place through which they paosed.--(11mr.)
--He did ti d lino., whether it were accessary lo ester
tow sue drool', uf the allocution, hat on the principle
he vrootd armoire to Isnint.sse.phscriation store. Nothing
coultt be swore PaseuttlaTo preserve ihtliberties that hate her.
Lauded down to a. by our &aerators thus to slept the hut.
of the coottitutioo to the progressive ad meataociey,

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tare Shiba 141 mein GO ilndo‘whieb liessioldbOrdMSMer to coo
template. Lank to the'tmosemeems first roma from tie se.
Oct of this wise coostituilowal precaution in other cortstrlea.
Look se Spain =A Italy. Its Italy ea long es this mans
was preserved, the RepoMies wen Auariebiag in the greatest
spies tour,, but we sooner was it deported from, thou-pd
begin to mark itin ir declise, aril that &Seared emeasey,
once Ike west of 'ng and of ern i re, so no degraerated.Tben
mug =ear isitelleetwal Mediae both drays of,
',Mfg althe 19ilmzenterhathen =attempt tam
made to raises/tem up, was ;Akre • swan that heard Min tli.ot
did mot glow witk indignation at their cowardice and pro.
Riese,. Let os beware then, lest by iirsiiating i.their. ex.
ample, our posterity should become as dqeenerate as they.
It was necessary that the Government should have not only
the heart, bat the whisk heart—amt only the affeetions, has
the =tine affection, of the people. It was insposeible this
cumitly could mood without the main aseriftomd deem•
tuns of the whole people. lie therefore isiet%pedi the
House to consider of every means, and to lon a* opportu-
nity of adding one other link to the chain Unit unite,
that Home to the people, and of rendering the Executive:
the Arostocrecy, sad the Commons, objects of affection to the
English nation. He bad now concluded all he had to offer
on this quest lien. There might be some who would view hip
Proposit:ou with alarm, as having guise too far ;' to Woes
Ise might become a subject of ridicule for not holing
gone far mousse. • Other* might think that any 'hinge at all
might endsuger the safely oral. cmslitusios. Ni was not
one of those who participated in these recharge ; he pitied
the alarm of the one, sod disposed the ridicule of the other.
Ile Mould as least retain the cumulation of havirig made a
propositi 111 l , which, if carried into execution, would be be-
neficial to the rouser! for its spirit is just and reasouable,
and, fur himself, be slice orejoy.the realest of all gratilica.
lions, that of ha ism Nla -'Woe Noble Lord eon.
eluded, amidst the - l wing the following
Braulutions
I. I. Thai grievous io the kingdom,
and manifestly oppose its be Iteir; Omit endue elections of
Members t• serve as Berge's= in Parliamemt, by grori
bribery and eurruptiona contrary to the laws, and its eiolstiou
of the freeolion dee to the election of Representation for the
Cominums of Egiciagi.l its Parliament, to the great
.1 the kingdom, elithrissournble, and may be destructive to
the constitutiosis u( Parlianamst.
"2. That in order to mrengthen and ntaialaiathe oireeseart
coolie:um heroes the Cormausis of this Kingdom mod thei r
Represestatirea is Parliament, it is expedient to give to such
places as are greatly iscressed in wealth and poselation, and
are aut at repent adequately represeuted, the right sif re-
turning hierabers 14 *erre in Parliament.
“ S. That is Seim, Committee be appointed to consider to
what places, according to the prisiciple of the foregoing Rs, .
solutions, it may be adrioabk to extend the right of a--
turning Members to in Parliament, and the best method
of effeclige that measure without an incouvernieut addition
to the Membirre of this Hauer.
" 4. That kt be referred hi the same Committee to consi-
der further of a mode of proceeding with respect to any bo-
rough which may hereafter be charged with nosnrious bri.
bery and corruption, in order that such charges may bf
regularly and effectually inquired lobo, mid if proved, that
suck boroughs may he disabled from ulayllpirlingeoirs
serve to Parliameet fur the future." '"-
Mr. WHITMORE seconded the Resolutions, bat express-
ed his inability be view, *his any complaceoey, the vendee
of Radical Reform; beesiteeqie feared that any violent effort
to eradicate the abuses and corruptions which had grown up
in the system of our represeatotion wOO% tend to union.
sad injure if wet destroy, that Constitution which he so
highly prised, sad from wine', such bkssings had been de-
rived to the country. •
Mr. BATHURST opposed Ilse Resolutions M consiarable
length, but it was imposibk effectually to ascertain- the !Ugh:
Hon Gentleman's remarks in the gallery. We uuderelood
him, however, to assistain, that the House mold not be era.
Mitered as pledged to any measure of Hit nation of the plan
proposed by the Noble Lord, by them*. to which they hail
come ea • former occasion with emote* the eases of bribery
and corruption which bed beet brewed under its notice its
a distinct slope. The Right Hosoursble Gestlernasi con-
cluded by nweeisee the previous epiertiou.
Lord JOHN RUSSELL explained.
Mr. BARHAM gave his most zealous= Sidle Imo-
POO
lion of his Noble Friend, but begged leave ails
the Borough of Stockbridge, which he had the bps...
present, bad completely reformed itself.
The House divided—
For the Ameadmitat • I tob.
Arnim( it o 00000
Majority against the original notice.. 31
On our results to the gallery we found the House engaged'
iii a discussion which was continued for a abort time after,
upon the subject of a loan of 500,600/. proposed to be made
on the Sank of Ireland, at 4 per cent. while, as it was con-
tended, tbE money could be borrowed in England at 3 per reel:
The user Oilers of the Dm were then disposed of. and the
House aolj dal HALF-PAST TWO O'CLOCK.
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MI NORJTY
ON SIR JOHN NETIIPOIT'S MOTION DILATIVE TO.
COMINDMIONSIS OE JUDICIAL eillitotair.
Altborp, Viscount Hobliouse, J. C. Rstrabold, C.
Bennett, Hots. H.G. Hunts, Jos. Rice, S.
Herod, R. Hutchinsow, How. Smith, Wen.
Barr dm. H. C. Smith, J.
Blake, Sir F. James, W. Smyth, J.
liarkaas, .1. F. jos. Monett, J. B. *earl, Lord J.
Burro., J. Martin, J. Stewart, J.
Carter, .1. Milton, Lord Tie 'try, W. Hon.G.
Vrieweri, J. C. Moberly, John Tairistock, Marysis
Catcnift, J. Milbank, R. Wood, Alderman
Ceneennon, L. M.ekintosk, Sir J. Writ!, H.
Colborne, N. R. Newport, Sir J. Wilmus, Sir R.
De Crespigny,!iirW. Newman, W. Wane, J. A.
Davies, Colnuel Ord, W. Wynn, ,C. W.
Ebringtun, Lord O'Callaghan, J. Wlttimoor, W. VC
Folkestesete, Fos. Palmer, C.' F. Williams, M.
Graham, It Phillips, Q.
tie Drell, P. Pores, T. TILLINS.
Goaskell, Jl. Result, Lord W. Baring,
Guise, Sir W. Russell, lewd J. alecaluaald, J.
MINORITY
ON MR. LENNARD'S MOTION TOR TVs arIf.AL OT THE
111.AiPHIC110011 AND SEDITIOUS LDS/Lx aci..
A bereronsliy, Hu.J. F linid C. WOraoly. S.
Newham, 'ir R.C. Pabel, C. F.

of tmes-ire povertv, piasepsed of as 'hoarse indifferent
to Oro proceedings elf Oat great Coutted, nil that tot**
had tap sues of money, soil were anxious To Sgt inn
Parlisitattat; it ern *obit impossible, that these two dames
of Oriente should meet--theo.frpold mote Hiele'ber.
g ainu he I your tenaettuteats etrei No !islet, be your penalties
ever wt severe, he yworbypotti Ply erre .well estaintaitred.
If su, then. the Holy way to effect the matter Mould boo to
ili.franelsise these borough.. We have preerdems in this
rade as 'well as lithe ow the other. In 166 A, the year lo
telsirlllite had alluded, is which the Bill was horoduced to
reduce the expense of electillas, leave was given to bring it
a' Bill to disfrauthise the borne* of Stockheidge, and ex.
teed the fraught*e to bouthalopiou. to 1693 leave was given
he Witte in rs Bill la elect two Members fur Stockbridge,
to which was added Basingatoke. Here the Rd I slopped.
Next came the borough of Alilborough 110 December, 1696,
it oso sersiered that mo new writ should be isunrd that year.
Io Derember. 11197, a Petition was presented from Aid's/.
roues, admitting their gull, and praying to Ite admitted to
favour. In 1701 it was ordered that RD new writ should be
ittealad. Is Ibis year there had beer wore frequent intaisces
of maalpeactires. A person of the name of Shepherd hail
enitesvoured to corrupt the boroughs of Po-amber, tgoottou
Basset, mad Ilebester. Sir Edward Seymour seem rd to,have
Men particularly aweless in detrains the corruptiod, in
eonseqaeace of tench the Hone emerged 'hint tine thanks
for his exertinna. and he should take the liberty of reading
a passage from die Speaker's speech in convelitig their thanks,
as tending to dice the smitintents of the House of Commons of
that slay..--(The Noble lard then readmit extraet, uhich men-
itUatti 61 the highest terms of praise the sense they • ntertain-
ed of the exertions of Sir Eilwanl Seymour ).—Theironsequience
of this tea. that Seymour was net t.. the Tower. In 1702
leave wee givrts to bring in a Rill to disfranchise the
bormigh of Kiugston. But these inquiries and these Bills
snout avert the evils that are complained of.—(Hear
•Cleasorilk Act Ills greatest abases may be commit-
' tad; fur no matter how frequent the abuses may he that are
mennitted, if they raw make op their differences sot a single
whisper world be heard of it is that Hom.e.—(?tar, hear.)
MMb respect to Grampormd, it appeared that Sir Manasseh
lard bad some haggling about a sons of forty or fifty
poontla, and the Onion boding• they could get a higher
bidder, he was left to a small saimerity. He afterwards
✓otated to pay the sum necessary to effect a mono's.
wise, is ronsetmeace of which he Moue, of all the others,
who were much deeper implicated in guilt, but yet
would pay the mosey, apd go see step deeper, was made
to endure all the coooqueures. There was a practiCe
mnongst the blatiomelaus, to a store, of throwing a Jew
overboard, if they had our. In the same maims that House
was ready enough to throw that unforloaate Christian evef-
tiosr.l, .anti load him with all the responsibility.—(blach
filleplifte, tied hear, bear)—lt was on this accent that he
brought forward the menstre, sad the more particularly
when he saw that there were malty who, when they went out
of the House, made ao scruple publicly to avow the fact.
He was mot prepared logabasit say specific plan Wills House,
but of this be was persuaded, that if (roes anddsgnat bribery
were proved to exist, the Home should be enabled to appinot
• Committee, like thoGenville Commit tee, authorised to re-
ceive upon oath whatever evidence should he submitted to
them, sort report the same to the House. He knew that great
nkleetiitsts were entertained this plan is consequence
of the delay occasioned by 'reeding the
House of Lords. He was fully sensible of this itietinve-
nienee, and shoal.' lierefore wish that a tribunal should he
appointed, independent of both Hones, which lee conceived
would be a enoiderable improvement to the practice of the
Constilatioa. The details of such a measure as this should,
to his opinion, be left to a Committee, and it. was his in-
tention, after a general resolution had been adopted, to lab-
mit a proposition to that effect. He proposed no introdic-
iioo or choose that was not called foe by a change of affairs;
he did not call upon the House to adopt any innovation
that had nut been caked for by other lomovations. The
grist i of the manwhetarimg loans rendered this
change neeeasary. When they called fora redaction in the
military establisturaeut, this was assigned as an newer. In
another place the Prime Minister accounted for the neces-
sity of a large military establohment ou a similar princi-
ple. When them he asked them to adopt an alteration, an
improvement is the Coostit lotion, in eouseeporwee of the in.
crease of the great asanufacturiog town, he only did that
which the Gentlemen on the opposite side had done : with
this ditionce, that instead of making this a cause for force
and reatesiot, he costaidered it as additional cause lot
conciliation and affection.—(lfear, hear.)—lt has loco
said that preemie of rosavaereisl habits and i.e commercial
pursuits are the whine! representatives of tonosobacturing
towns. This, be reanteil, was a very plausible fiction, some-
what like the fiction isi • COUri of Law, that the Jadge is the
virtual Counsel foe the prisoner. Bat, as the primmer nid,
if you were Counsel fur me you would sot have asked that
que.tion, so might the mattufacturiii: towns soy, Gentlemen,
it' you 'tally represented our interests, yaw would serer have
given that vute.--( Herr, hear.)—But it most be of
im-
portaoce that some persou from the place should represent
the town, who wool.' be acquainted with the people, avid
their local uteri/41os, end by the Bill fur transferring the
franchise flout Grampound to Leeds, the ides of virtual re-
presentation has been completely done sway with. Ile did
not mean to ask the Howie to confer the elective frau-
ellise on those towns, but he contended that it was not only
the dusty of the House to transfer the elective franchise to
those towns WiirtleVtr the opportunity occurred, bin
also to seek the niesis• of doing to.—( their, hear, bear.)—
In consequrnce of the tnauuer ill which these towns were
[Civet ned, great evils arose. Manchester was !overlord by a
Sieward, and belonged in the of Suffolk, sad Bir-
mingham was under the 111.11L.gflierli of constables. Fur
omit of some persons with whom to communicate their
political concerns, they torso 11 their attention to lee
field that addressed them, and were sure to crowd
round every Hoot that asceuded a rostrum to haraugue
them, for want of any better. And what were the mesas
resorted to by the Government to allay their discute-
teut• Old they apply to Ike Lord Lieutenant of the comply
to exercise his Mimeses!? Niktsch *Lino The peens
who was cheesed with this most imperials, frost est Ur.
err, the spy—the virtual representative of their interests was
Mr. Oben the qty. They saw all the elements of docurd
collected, and ready to burst forth into au explosion, sod
their chosen arbiter of peace and war was .1/r Wirer fag
spy.—(Load chars.)—biapesadded to demagoguts, selee
were let loose atnongO the pruple, who, by verities' their
hopes, Bud rens/vine the fear of punishment, urted them
we to acts of viiileoce. And what else was to be expected
when the vi ry revenue of these wretches depends d on treat.
lug di.affretimo They lived upuu treasos, soil their to-

Fitzroy, ~.
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coast ccsard Isbell trauqoillity was testened.—lle knew there I , :, H. Cordes, Sold. P1ai11i0....1.
were some .Lis were advoestes for strong measures of co- Bernal, Ilslph I•rifielm, J. W. Phillips, G. R.
?loon, and •Ito thought that siothiez rise WI. St to manage i ikusyou. It. Glasse, Sie tr. itickford, W.
the twanufactoriog districts. Ile tie:w ihsrr were some 1, birth, J. Graham, M. Ituesral, Greenhill
wbo rejoiced at mud culotte. il Atte Woody tragedy uf elan- Itriaht, H. Hatboet Hue. E. hire, S.
cheater. But he would ask them, will these nernsterre pru• l' lleouxhev„, Sir J. ii.„„i. R. Roberta, A. W.
duet the effect ?—that measure. of corn 1.. u, of segratet, 1 Bylie, C. I•ll,dthmtesc, J. I'. Robssig, Colonel
airy ul oppressi iiii , here not been rreurti 61 hi, and without litordrit, Sir F. tluteltimen, Hence Hanvidee, J.
slicer's? Call )otl jut...F.ow 'Wis. 1-111. %% olio*. at ih. same timirm, Viscount Ilalvieziaorl, fl. amyl°, D.
time increases, the distress.• of Or 'seriph. •11.1 pro- Bu‘toss. F. Jame.. W... Saajth'.J.li.
modem &fain engin ,—(!Smut.)—ltme• le reutaisou notheuz DUW , conettutito, L. 1,,,,,h.,,,,..,,. Th.. mi..,4,,, 3.
in be added to time %yen le 1 roerriow but • ertna.rehipue She I C won. S. Lau/Stun, J. 11. Tit-rimy, Kt. Ha he.
['nil, and 'bat, be 'nested mu Gad, mee had still spirit rusesigh i (*.loner. Kubt. Martin, Juba Tavisteek, Lord
It, resi.r...-(Cheers ) It was nditeloue ni lull ourselves : eilimert, C'. blitue, A. Whitbread, S. C'
into • 'motion of security; it wets immissihb to muskier all Cube, T. %T. Mouth, J. B. Tv..itis. c.c.
was tratiqesellity after what had ocean nil in (Hu I
go* in Valeria, Julia Niatdowstm% J. Webb, E.
April lamd. mad that lull afirr She array had been raised. i lieuison, %V. J. Nlaberly. J. Wyvill, N.
115 proposinc this messes's. he isitrodstred isothiaz that was i tviree, F.lout I Nilsen, Lewd %Verve, J. A.
Nut curium's! with .err evisimieutiesal lesson mod peremee. 1 iltesidao, T Newport, Sir J. Whimsies, W.
IHe hail heard it argued with great ability, abeCher Sever- I Ehrisigkio, Lord Newosins, R. W. Wilson, Sir R.
eetaistioo would be soy sileantsipe iii wootiotosteebsir woo.. I Fokeshille. L•srml • Nnirest, Lord
Rat that woe mat ha purpose ;he did eel ninind Here to wpm • Tinit.tbes-T. R. Leawood mid T. Dramas.
whether hberty were pal, but to this priociple he wosid . Mr. J. Wiwi's, riled Ile *Mb lard Hobert aININt.'"'

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