The British Press; or, Morning Literary Advertiser.
London, England, 1822-05-17 00:00:00

PUBLIC HOUSES.

Mr. BENNETT "b;ought in his Bill for regulating the
granting of homilies to alehouses. It .as read • first Mlle
and ordered to be read a second time on filonday next.
Lord EDWARD SON EllsET P ted a pet
atio from
stowe.ou.ti,e.wold against the resolutions relative to foreign
corn warehoused.
Sir WILLIAM C. FAIRLIE obtained leave to bring
in a Bill to smeud the 301 h Geo. 111. relative to the improve-
/omit aloud in Scotland held►
under strict eut•il.
General GASCOYNE primentiql • Petition from the
Shipowner' of the Port of Liverpool •gaiott the proposed
alterations i• M. eCATHOLlCavigation tairs.—Or
PEERS.dered to be printed.
Mr, riEG3 KECK presented a Petition from the Parish
of Cungleton, is the c lotlf of Chester, against the Bill

be was going to describe mold etst be properly considered
the amusement of the populace, but of the vilest set of erre-
tures on the face of the earth. This fellow issued an adver-
tisement, that on a certain day the celebrated Jacho Macho
would light the well-known Mr. Cribb's pup, and that the
monkey was wily half she weight of she bitch.—(Mocb
lasighter.)—Thin same Jacho Macho bad fought Miceli dotes
and a challenge bad been issued, that he would fight toy dug
of double his weight.—(A laugh.)—Accordingly these fellows
assembled, and them poor animals fought In she most des-
perate manner. The bitch lore away she under jaw
of the mmikey, and Jacko Macho cut sew.' the carotid
artery and windpipe of Mr. Crobb's pup —(laanghler.)--
The consequence was that she poor animals were so lacerated
that they lived for only two boors after the fight, and then
they died.—(Great laughing.)—Now sorely that could not be
considered the amusement of the lower orders ; and if the
House were disposed to protect she lower animals, they
shoold also extend their humsoity to the animals of sles,r
own species. He was at that pit—(l laugh)—and he there
saw a woman carried to the hospital, whose scalp had bees
torn off by a bear ; for in this place they kept monkeys,
dugs, bears, and he believed they had filly or sixty badger..
—(Much laughing.)—He understood that this fellow could
nut be proceeded ageism by law, unless the sale of the
tickets could be proved, but be thought • clause should be
introduced into Ilse Police Act to bring such practices 'slash'
the purlieu of the Statute.—Tbe Petition was laid on the
table.

Mr. SYKES presented • Petition from the Governors and
Guardian• of the Pelof •t Kingalou-upoo•H•U against the
Bill fur the femoral of the poor.
Mr. GOOCH presents.' • Petition from the I a of
Bury, praying for the repeal of the leather gal.—Ordered
to tie printed.

•
Mr. COKE presented a Petition from ecrisin Occupiers
of Lend In the county of Norfolk, complaining of agriesl•
total distress. and praying fur economy and reform.—Order.
ed to be printed.
Mr. THOMAS WILSON moved for Foreign Returns of
all delleieseies in spirits that could be ascertained by the
returns made in July lam, distiognisbing the different
bifida—Ordered.
On the motion of Mr. CH ETWY ND, they t Laws
Amendment Bull was committed. The Bill, with several
verbal Ameailimeats, rimed through the Committee, and the
Report was ordered to be received to-morrow.

Sir It. WILSON put a qnemion to the Hoc Secretary op-
posite, on the answrr to which depended iu great
whether orator the House were to be 'evolved in a very trou-
blesome and diragreeable discussion. The Hon. Member
for Montrose i■ the coarse of his speech on the lonian
Islands, had slated that a Petition drawn up conformably to
the charter of the Islands wee seized in course of signature,
sad the chief persona sigoing it were severely visited, some
in person, others in property. The Hon. Secretary declared
that the Petition was nut constitutionally draws. sad that it
was of a seditious and rebellious character. A copy had
bees placed with him (Sir R. Wilson), which was of quite a
different and opposite character. His question was, wuold
the H able Secretary agree to the production of
a copy of the original from his office, that the House
might know the real fact; and also if the persons wit, had
taken refuge in England from the ponishencat on
those concerned in the Petition, were now at liberty to re-
turn, without •olestatios, to the lonian Isks ?
Mr. WILMOT had so objection to produce the Petition,
but he wished for time to sccompsay it with dls•trasive do-
cuments, to support the assertions which he had made.
Mr. ELLIS wished to know if the Colouial Intercourse
Bill would come on to-morrow week?
Mr. F ROBINSON said that be was most anxious that
it should come on next week, agreeably to Ilse existing order.
Lord J. RUSSELL wished to put a question as to the
lonise Isles, the purpose of which was to ascertain how far
the conduct of that G meat was likely to affect our
neutrality in the contest between the Turks and Greeks. He
wished to know if these world be any objection to producing
such orders and proclamations as had larva iscued by S.r T.
Maitland relative to that contest

The Marquis of LONDONDERRY wished to know if
there was any intenlion of roiling an argument upon the
documcnis when produced. The general tenor of than was
matter of notoriety ; but if the purpose was to set up any
question as to the policy of England in the struggle between
Greece and Toikey, be might nut think it expedient just
now to furnish Onto. He bad no objection, however, to
allowing the &cornea's to be produced.
Lord J. RUSSELL said, Hist he had 03 particulsr When.
lion beyond what ►e had expressed. How far the docu•
menus themselves might induce bins to raise an argument,
when produced, he could not sty till they were before the
House. With permission of the Noble Marquis, he would
move directly for an address to the Throne, praying dint
there migbt be laid before the House copies of all Orders
and Proelanssiimis issued by the Governor of the lonia..
Islands relative to the present contest between the Turks
sad Greeks.

Mr. MAXWELL said, that tbe hatred anti detestation in
which Sir T. Maitland was held by the inhabitant', made it
particularly desirable that the House should be enabled to
dive lulu the causes or it.

The Marquis of LONDONDERRY entertained a very
different persuasion ■s to the Opinion in which Sir T. Matt.
land was held by the intiohitsnts of those islands. He
thought that the conduct of that officer had been masked
throughout by very great ability and integrity.
Mr. MAXWELL said, that when be was in those islands,
bespoke to no one who entertained opinions ..f Sir T. Mail.
land other than those which be hail before described. The
inhabitants despaired of any redress from has eoodnet in
them, because be was connected with the Oppisiition.—
( Laughter.)
Sir I. COFFIN had never beard that the Lord High Com-
missioner was hated o► detested by any one.
Mr. SYK ES wished to know If the Russian Tariff publish-
ed in March bat was ■uthentieated ?
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, thu he had Is,-
fore auswesed the question, and told the Hun. Genii. mau
that he did not believe it to he ■utbeottc.
Mr. HUAI E wished to know what progress had born made
by the Commissioners of Boundaries iu North Amt. sea.
Mr. WILMOT said, that the Commis.ionsrs were hu•y
in carrying into effect the Treaty of Ghent—the 4th A riir4
Was skinitively settler'. Some difficulty had arisen on the
interpretation of the bill, as it was to affect the line uu the
north side of New Brusivick. The objections were scientibi,
and beyond the ■ppreheosiun of the Hon Meinher or auy
other Gentleman in the Huus•.—(A laugh.)—He him., If
shored in the description. The math article was settle•'.
The seventh, relating to the lower part of the Lake., nit,

Mr. JENKIIiSON said all nee distress in this part of the
cottony was owing to the malaadeninistration of the pour
laws, which if not speedily conridered would force them-
selves.,, the 'neutron of the House.
Mr. LOCKHART complained of the effect of the poor
laws—of the increase of 40 per cent. in the poor rates, sod
of 35 on pauperism. The system was too bad ; it must end
ie Inahropey. Sooner than live under il, he would cowed
to hare His frame of society hew cast. It was a cancerous
system; it was eating out the country; it ought to be prob.
ed to obit bottom. The present evils were trifling to the fu-
lure prospect ; they were spasms, indicating weakneab.
The system would go on from bad to worse, mold it expired
is agony and convolsions. The poor laws would leave no.
Thing in the mid, even (or the poor themselves, but plunder
and rebellion. They ought to rout them up, and plait
something upon which they could better rely.
Mr. HUTCHINSON had never ventured to reprimand the
Hon. Member for Sussex; but be did then and now deprecate
the mention of English tithes as having any resemblance to
the ease of Ireland. There was nothing knowo of Comma
to compare with the sufferings of the Irish; and they bore
it impost sed with • patieser never belure heard of. Ali
the puce, of Great Britain would be too little to keep the
English people quiet, if they were now suffering any thing
like his conotrymen.
The Petition was ordered to be printed.
Sir T. LEMBRIDGE presented • Petition of a very
remarkable character, from six hundred of the most respeet•
able people in the neighbourhood of the city of Bath, whirls
he hoped would nut be displeasing to the Chancellor of the
Exchiquer. Most petitioner, asked a repeal of taxes—this
prayed fur new taxes to be laid on. if the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman would only let them know to what amount be in.
Seeded to remit taxes, the petitioners were prepared with re-
sources to cover any deficiency so caused They had felt
their fall share of the general distress, with the measures
fur the relief of which their proposition was most perfectly
collateral. They complained of the residence on the Con.
tin. ot, fur three or four years together, of the best families
of the empire. They stated that is Paris alone there were
10,000 families, English, Irish, and Scotch, who, taking
them at Sven, a featly, whit lbw expense of a guinea • day
each, spent 1511,000 guineas • day-3511,000 • week—
in,tso,ooo a year. This Wall In Pavia alone, to say
saheb" of Binges, Brest, Brussels, Milan, Havre, and
several other places where they swarmed. The facia
were is • great measure borne nut by She able and
in-
lightened speech of the Noble Marquis last Right, who
had given the vast current of English travellers pawing
through and about Europe, as a reason fur the expenses of
the Ambassadors. The petitioners pointed tint the various
evils incident to the practice, and also to that more frightful
este of sending the youth of both sexes to be educali d
abroad, to the destrisetioai of the motional character, and the
danger of subverting oar holy religion, as proved in a late
melancholy case. Throe was besides the loss to the tie,
leaving She wirfol deficiency to he made good by new taxes
and loans. The petitioners had taken • great shit wide view
of the subject, which it was his duly to press on the Hutto%
He would not vouch fur the accuracy of the facts stated ;
they prayed that there might be • tax laid on the property
of absentees equal to the mistily*, direct and indirect, to
shirk is won't be subjected if consumed in &allied, sod
prevent the payment of all sinecuriste, officers of the service,
and publsc annuitants, !wing remitted to them, except only
such as were •hroad on public service. Undoubtedly it We.
• great evil cif which the peotionert complained; he was
await of the bonus which tempted the abseritees to shun
their share of the hording of Ilse State. The grievance was
heighteited by the stale of the exchanges, • bit h enabled the
absentees to profit 25 or 46 per cent. on every 1001. remitted
to Parts. He was one of those who thought that nothing
had yet been done to relieve the distress of the country.—
He might he wrong, but the great body of the people went
with hies in that opiniuu. II was the duly of iho Gofers-
meat to end to adopt some measure with a view to
that object; and if taxation was found to be the only effec.
tual remedy, if it was to be effected at all by any tax, no
one tax could be more proper for the purpose than led.,
which would fall upon those who could •ffued to pay, std
not spun the already distressed and industrious classes.—
Hs did believe that much might be dune, if there were a
perfect desire on the part of those whose duty it wits to
apply themselves carefully and diligently to the subject ;
and watts. something were dune in the primmest Seeaiuu, he
was siot able to furetel what might be the consequeree.
Mr. RICARDO begged leave to put the Hun. Baronet
right with respect to the state of the .:change.. They lime
wow, and had beets for some time past, urar:y Wear ; mad
It wig almost impossible that they should be otherwise, be-
cause happily fur us we had • metallic currency ; and, with
a metallic vomiter, the exchanges mold nut vs. y more ihau
*bout ,ine. balf per cent. With respect is the pi it yer uf the
Petition, it might be sa well to ob.erve, that it people of
property weal shioid, they left their capital 60'40, .0.
was still osefal to the curoutry, although perhaps nut son t~
PO
111111/Ch so as if they remained at home. But he could iiot
hear without surprise the complaints of the Hun. Byrn.. t
on the subject of absentees, ashen he Lad proposed a systrui
of curs laws which was calculated to force people to sr
abruail.—(Hear, hear.)—The deters shirk Le had
posed for the prole.lii n of apiculture most have that •f r:,
since their direct tendency was to make the profi:s uu
capital exceedingly bw, sod the Hoop. Gf tiring very high.
He (gr. Ricardo) was convinced that 'hie country would ha
the cheapest and must cornfurtab'e in the world is. live to,
if a proper cruise of policy were pursued; so muck so,
that instead of cipital hew, withdrawn from it, the capital
from other cuuni ries would Row into it, t 0,,, the adrardige•
it was capable of affording over ut h. r cations. The Means
by which..su:b • change might be brought about were, such
reetilatiotia of the turd trade as he bad paws...A and the
'vying off of the national debt—(Hear, hear, hear)—
He was fully perinaJed that it might be dude, null
that the hest policy would be to make one great effort
towards ieduring it at osier. He thought it might be gut
✓id off by e I coutiihutiou of all (Manes of priory.
If the d..bt were owe gut rid of, mid • soiled policy adopted
with respect to the corn laws, this smeltery wool./ Le the
cheapest to hie in ; and nothing that had ever yet bean
head of any country in the would, would be noel to Ore
wealth, proapriity, sod comfort of the whsle population of
this.—(H. at.)
'slr. DENIS B ROW N E was strongly in favoer ..f e tax on
the properly of abstialvell. All the taus ibis empire mete
upon co ; soil any man oLu • idled to evade earl.,
hail itoth.ng to du hut t 3 go to France. Ihe absentee system
vas great cause of all tke miseries and w et .hedin.auf

-
si

Ireland ; at least half the gentry of belied were Asmara+.
The peels's* situation of the country was such se to demand
moos relief. He did not wail* improbabilities; be did not
expect to extract sunbeams from cucumbers; hot it was the
duty of Ministers to come forward with some remedy fur the
present state of things.
Mr. H. GURNEY said, though the exchanges were now
al par, ty staled by the Honourable Member fur Partarling.
♦ns,, hermit -the thermion of the currency they had been
tenth against this coyote?. With respect to the Petition
before the House, be thought the Chanced* of slot Emile.
lire would lad it rather difficult to assess the tax proposed
the Hooourabie Boroned.—(Laughter.)—ls his opinion,
the'," should be a general freedom of egress and nee* to
and from the kingdom to all classes of subjects, and he par.
deprecated any preference to the ric► over the poor.
tie was patticularly induced to make that observation by
1•••ing aeon a paragraph in some of the newspapers, by
..irk it appeared that three labooring animism, who were
out to embark for Fraser in order work at their business in
)•vie, bad beta apprehended at Dover, brought up to Bow.
.•revs, and committed to prison for west of bail. He knew
la stain. Mode proceeding in that ease was according to law,
end be could understood the principle of legislating to pro-
mo, the exportation of valuable machisery, and to punish •
the man who attempted to seduce 'misses to emigrate.
But he thought it extremely bard that because a man who
lad to maintain himself and reality by the work of his hands
lowed it to be more to his advantage to pursue his Minims
another couture, he should be punished with imprison-
ment, while the rich and effluent were at liberty to transport
tt•eit wealth and knowledge without restriction, whither.
sever they pleased.
Mi. DICKINSON supported the prayer of the Petitiosere,
and incurred with theme most fully in their opinion of the
isys-hief done to the country ty emig►atiou.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he
shMild not have addressed the House on the pr. sent occasion,
had he not haled that the total *ileum of Ministers on the
subject might lead to the belief that his Majesty's G
mew had wholly disregarded the subject of tlw complaints of
thee► Petitioners. With respect to the tax suggested by the
Y. titiouers, and in strongly enforced by the How. Baronet, he
Vieright the Hun. Member fur Puttee lingios (Mr. Ricardo),
sad the Honourable Member who spoke after him, bad
emit, shown the di Mculty of complying with the suggestion,
and he trusted the Honourable Baronet would give him (the
chancellor of she Exchequer) credit for having exerted him.
s If as mach as possible in the way of tazation.—(Laugh.
ter )—He had always thought that a laz on absentees would
be a popular tax, but he o could think acme which would
for frond unobjectionable, and at the same time practicable. •
will respect to the observation of the Hon. Member fur
Mops (fiir. D. Brown.), on the great number of Irish &b.,
centres, he had always understood that the greater part of
then were living in England—at Bath, and other places of
that kind; so. that • halever their object might be it could
not be to escape the taxes, for in England they were subject
to merle ►eaver laxative than iu Ireland. Referring to the
ol.j. et generally of the loss of tame by al/renters, hr ►ad
.ti,erted calculitiona to ►e made as accurately as possible
lice rehires from the Tamoffice, and the result was, that
the proportion of the d taxes lost by absentees, as
in oily as it could he ascertain/id, did not exceed five !boo-
med pounds n•y-sr, upon a taxation of six or 7,000,0601.
Tile slimmer!s hum thus country might be divided g Ily
into two clam's: the first cousiated of tto•e lemming who
s,a►elled fur amusement, who generally returned in s short
and kept up their establislinseets in this country
while they were away. Those persons paid their tams
generally, snit the !we by them would amount to little
or.nuthiag. There was also a mach more numerous ease,
consisting of persons who aerie residing abroad from motives
of .economy, and for the arrangement of their affairs.—
Among those were many noble and respectable indivi-
duals, soil from the absence of such persons the greatest
portion of tho loss arose. Best he would put it to the House,
whetter it would out be harsh as well as impolitic to adopt
ally measure with a •iew to compel 'hoot persons to retails
to Uns country, in which they had already found it iuconve.
mint to live,—(Hear, hrar.)—With respect to the observe.
Mons of au Honourable Member (Mr. Gainey) us the law
'affecting artisans, be had no hesitation iu gig it as his
'opinion; that t►e industry of English mcchaeigt ought out
do be lucked up,—(Hear, bear, hear.)—With respect to
those who tent abroad for economy. and vegetated
rather than lived on small incomes, he thought the best
way to briag them back was to i.duce rather Mae compel
them to retain, and the most powerful, indure.neut would be
b/ making Has country comfortable acid limiting. The
runipseative dearness of living Su this country, which had
h.•en greatly iorressed by the expenses of the late ear, sad
the depreciation of the carrrncy, bad occasioned the greater
camber of those persons to emigrate. But the restoration
of the currency acid the fall of prices had contributes' to re.
doge the charge of living very considerably; and be was per-
fectly satisfied, that whet' the comparative scale of expense
between living in this country sod on the Contiumit be.
came more equalized, there were few English people sho
wauld not feel disposed notch rather to live iii F.aglaud, even
m a trifling increase of coat, than incur the iescoureaience
va:' taverna( oo bad rondo, with the want of accuminmiatios
experienced it, uoe••neforlable foreign inns, in order to effect
a trifling saving.—(Heir, hear.)

Ste ISAAC COFFIN said be wu sure there was Rat a
Biliivh Half pm, Officer living us the Continent, of whom
it alight eat be said, " bus poverty ard nut bis will cue-
s rim"

Mr. W. SMITH hoprJ the Right Hos. Gentleman (the
flatucelloco( the Eitchrtitaei) would bring forward a urea.
law,e to alter the law atketiag the emigration of sacebaaies.
Mr. D. BHOSTISE explained.
Thw t'etatiou awl orthted to be printed.
THE SWISS EMBASSY.
Mr. WARRE said, under any circumstances he
should have telt the siccessity of apologising to the
House bit trespassing on its time and attention,
hut be felt that necessity more particularly in the pre-
sent instance, nit rising to being under its considera-
tion a particular branch-of the general question which
lead been so fully discussed on the preceding night.
But if the House would favour him with its nitro-
tom, he promised to confine himself es closely as
possible to the particular object of his motion, and
to compress his observations into as 'kart a space
as he could. The object at which he [milieu-
lastly aimed was, the reduction of the expen-
diture under the head of foreign missions. The
necessity of such reduction, it it could possi-
bly be effected, he should take to be admitted, and
it would be tritng sti.h the understanding of the
!louse to enlarge upon that point. He would come,
luerefore, at once to the proposition which he had
to snake, which related to the mission to Suit-
e rland. Picini the year 1750 to 1783, there
were four Ministers sent Lam this country to
the Swiss Cantons, who received 1.5711. a year.
From 1783 to 1791 the person employed on that
mission was a Mr. BMW), who received only 250/.
s-year. There war, therefore, a considerable re-
duction made at that time in the charge fur that
!pluton, which it appeared was done at the period
when thus country coming out of an expensive war,
Mr. Pitt found it necessary to make every possible
reduction in the public expenditure. If he blinded
to the salary of an American Ambassador, he en-
treat.il the House to believe, that he neither wished
tic subvert the Altniarchy, nor to make war upon the
Constitution. The observation of the Noble Lord
Londmiderry)on the precediog night almost o mount-
ed to a veto against any allusion to American diplo-
macy ; but he must beg leave to suggest the posti-
faddy, that when his mind was employed upon this
subject, Mr. Pitt might have rekrted to the cir-
cmistaiire which was within his own knowledge, that
Dr. Franklin, who was engaged on a mission front the
new republic of America to Patia, hod completely

out-matched oar • diplomatist there, Lord Stor-
mont, and that his salary was only one thousand
pounds a year.--(Hear, hear, and • murmur.)
lie knew not what there was in the republic on the
other side of the Atlantic to cause such • aensation.
bit there did seem to be a constant disposition to
revolt from the bare mention of the twine.—
IHear.) —He came now t the period when the
scale of the embassy to the Swiss Cantons wits
changed ; viz. from Ma to 1798. Rut what was
the state of Switzerland when Mr. Wickham was
sent thither to negotiate wilh the French Govern-
ment ? It was an isolated spot, almost the only
one in Europe *lsere we could plant • Minister for
such • purpose. Every surrounding country was
either in a state of actual warfare, or conquered and
overrun by the French arms. To *hew the im-
portance of the mission at that time. it was only
necessary to read the dispatch of Mr. Wielthutn.
dated Berne, Bth March, 1796, to the French
• Minister. [The Hou. Gentleman read the dispatch
in question.] That shelved the writer to have been
delegated by the Ministry of thiscountry to take the
first important step towards opening a negociation
with the French Government for • general 'medico.
lion. The tone and conduct of the French Govern-
ment prevented the negociation, but the attempt
'hewed the peculiar and important character of th•
mission at that period. In 1802 Mr. Moore was
sent to the Cantons on • special mission by- the
Earl of Liverpool, then Lord Hawksbary ; but he
was shortly after recalled, and we had too Minister
there afterwards until 1814. Switzerland then be-
came
• point of negociation in the general arrange-
ment of European affairs, for the organisation of
its own territory, and considerable diplomatic bori-
neis was transacted there. In 1815 there was
held an Extraordinary Diet at Zurich. at
which Mr. Stratford Canning, on the part of
Great Britain. and Envoys from each of the
other great Powers of Europe, attended. At
a meeting of that Diet a territorial arrangement
of Switzerland took Place, Which left it, with a few
very trifling alterations, in the same condition in
point of territory as it had been in 179 g. That re-
minded him of an inconsistency in the argument of
the Noble Lord on the preceding night. The No.
ble Lord asked, whether it was intended to object
to sending an Envoy to Wirtemberg and to Ba-
varis. the territories of both having been greatly in.
creased ? But the reverse of that was the cave of
Switzerland ; hei territory had been somewhat di-
minished. Besides which, there was business re-
quiring a direct communication between those
kingdoms and this country ; but he was at a
loss to know what direct business there could
be between Switzerland and this country. The
object of the diplomatic arrangements in 1815
was, to guanintee the neutrality and independence
of Switzerland. He knew no mode by which they
could be violated, except by an enemy from with-
out. France violated them in Mt, and others
might attempt it again. But if there should be a
disposition ou the part of any Power to do an, who
ought to be the first to give intimation of it to the
Government of this country ? Certainly not the
Edvoy to the Cantons, but the Minister, it he
had his eyes shout him, who was employed
at the Court of that country where prepara-
tions for such an attempt might be making.
He did not, therefore, see the necessity for keeping
up any considerable mission there fur that object.
The Noble Lord might say that the House
most have been aware of all this in 1816, when it
sanctioned the estimate. When the Noble Lord
obtained leave to bring in the Bill founded on that
estimate, his Right Hon. Friend (lair. Tierney)
moved for • Committee to inquire into it; but that
was refused,- and he suet some persons now opposite
who voted fur a CoMmittee ou that occasion.—
Other endeavours were made to fix the attention
of the House to the subject. but equally in vain.
For three years after 1816 Mr. Stratford Canning
remained in Switzerland. He had occasionally heard
au argument, that diplomacy was generally kept
up on a scale of mutual intercourse upon an equal
footing; but how was it possible that such could be
the case with Switzerland ? She had no fixed mis-
*Moe ; all her embassies were special ones. Her
only missions to this country were in 1914 and
1815, when her neutrality was to be established.
That business done, she recalled her special tnis-
sior.s, and they had never been renewed. It might
be asked why the objection to out mission was
not raised in 1816. He had to remark in an-
swer, that with all its collective Went. that House,
he did not mean to say it could not, but it never
did give its attention to more than one or two lead-
ing topics at a time. For instance, when the last
motion was made by his Hon. Friend, the Member
for blidliurst, for the insertion of the late Queen's
name in the Liturgy, would any mail have Mid the
chalice of • hearing on any other topic? I-le re-
mcrobered that many important motions were put
off on that account. In 1816, they were occupied
in debating, not about foreign missions, but whether
this country was to be subjected to the continental
system of Government, with which the Noble Lord
been mightily taken. by • standing army of
99,000 men. In 1817 they were occupied with the
suspension of the Llubeas Corpses and other mea-
burrs connected with it. In 1819 the general elec-
tion was approaching, and Gentlemen were thinking
more of what was likely to happen out of the
House than of what was passing in it. The Noble
Lord *aid there was an widerstautheig among the
Allied Powers that miss a cif • certain
rank should be kept up in Switzerland. But
twenty months had elapsed, during which no
mission was sent out Irom this country, and
the period at which it was determined to stud
one, was precisely that of the conclusion of
what was called by some persons ag the arrange-
ment," but what others called •• the bargain" be.
tweeu the Noble Lord stud she allies who were then
sitting near him.—(Heier, and laughter.)—He
assured the House that su making his present
motion, he had no intention of aiming at the sp.
poiottnent of any particaler 'person; his Oita:-
lion was wholly to the mission itself.o-(Hear I
hear! from the Treasury Couches,)—But if it
were true that ally such uoideratiolding as was
mentioned subsisted. how was it that so lung a
vacaucy took place between the reel of Mr. Can-
Mug, and the aFponitineitt of the Gentleman who
had lately been sent out ? And what had occurred
in that interval ? The address of last June, when
• direct pledge was given that every possible re-
trenchment should be wade to every brooch of the

public expenditure. that pledge 44 ought to
have been of much greater weight than any
un-
denranding on the subject ; and if properly re-
presented by the Noble Lord to the Ministers of
the other Powers, would no doubt have been ad-
mitted as • sufficient reason for ■ departure
from the previous arrangement. The Noble
Lord said there was no difference in the rank,
but only in the expense, of this mission be-
tween 1792 and the present time. His (Me. W.'s)
object was solely to reduce the expense. The No-
ble Lord had, on the preceding night, thrown out
a sarcasm on the amount of the saving that could
be made in this charge. But, he apprehended, that
was a ground from which the Noble Marquis was
precluded by his own promise at the outset of the
late motions for economy—that any practical sav-
ing that could be pointed out should not be ob-
jected to on account of the sum, however small.
The manner in which he estimated the amount that
might be saved in this instance was as followi:
The allowance to Mr. Disbrowe was 1,5951., say
1.600/. ; which, by deducting 10 per cent. according
to the late regulation, would be reduced to 1,4401.
The charge for the new mission was, to Mr. Wynn.
4,400/. ; the deduction of 10 per cent. being 4401.
would make it 3 9601.; deducting Mr. IVynii's
' pension of 1,200/. would leave 2,7601.; which ex-
ceeded the net allowance to Mr. Disbrowe (1,440/.)
by 1,3201. which ought to be saved, and in addi-
tion thereto, the 1,5001; for the Secretary of
Legation, would make a total saving of 2,8201.
That was a small sum; but it was worth consider-
ing, and exceeded the salaries of the two Lords of
the Admiralty. Ind that of the reduced Postmaster.
Getters!. The Noble Lord appealed to the sanc-
tion of' Parliament in 1814 and 1815 ; but such
war then the iufluence upon the House and the
country of recent victories, and of the Noble Lord's
retorts from the Congress at Vienna, that they were
not in the humour to object to any thing. Many
of the votes then agreed to, if proposed at this time
for revision, would be very differently disposed of.
The Honourable Member concluded by moving a
series of resolutions declaratory of the state ■nd
expense of the minions from this country to the
Swiss Cantons at several periods, which he followed
up with • resolution...
"That it appeats to this flo•se, that, without darkness
to the public service, t►e charge of the mission from this
co•atry to the Swiss tiptoes might be reduced to a sum
sot exceeding the snowman paid to Lord Robert Fits-
gerald, daring the time of his being employed oa a eimi-
tar mission."
The Marquis of LoaDowotaint complimented
the Hon. Member o• the very fair, clear, and in.
telligent manner in which be had made his state-
ment, and the very liberal manner in which 'he had
treated the subject. Consistently with the prin-
ciple on which he had resisted the motion of
the previous night fur • Committee of Inquiry,
on the general question, lie could not assent
to the proposal of putting this particular branch
of it in issue before the whole House. It was a
question, the Artless of which was only to be
determined upon a knowledge of particulars con.
meted with Cabinet secrets, which it would be
neither expedient nor proper to divulge. It was
moreover necessary to make a stand at this point,
because they were threatened with a series of similar
motions relative to other foreign missions, so that
the result would be that the Executive Government
of Foreign Affairs was thereafter to be tarried on en
the floor of that House, and Ministers most either
cancel every appointment of a diplomatic character,
or shew cause why it should be contionect, by stat-
ing to the House the peculiar views of policy by
which they were governed in sending out any parti-
cular mission. That, he apprehended, was • course
which would not be adopted in any Govern-
mot. not even in that of America, which had become
the favourite topic of encomium with Gentlemen
opposite. The Legislature of that country had even
recently set an example of perfect confidence in
the Executive Government, by placing at its dis-
posal a large sum for the probable missions that
might be sent to the different South American
States, without ever thinking of calling upon the
President to particularise the nature and grounds
of the several missions or the proportionate ex-
pense of each. The conclusion of the Hon.
Member had been molt strangely drawn from his
series of facts. It was evidently founded chiefly
on the case of Mr. Braun, who had filled the office
fron► 1783 to 1792, at the humble salary of 250/. •
year. On the preceding night he (Lord L.) had said
that that person must have been sent there under a
sort of official coodemnation to be transported for
some diplomatic offence. He had since had the
curiosity to inquire into the history of that person's
mission; and from the result he did not wish to
see any precedent drawn from his core. There
was not a single line of that person's corres-
pondence in the office that was not in the French
language. Ile was •n half-pay Swiss Officer, of
very good character, sod had been Private Secretary
to a former Secretary of State for Foreign Affairs,
and must have been appointed to that mission as
being one which presented but little important busi-
ness, in the absence deny better means of providing
for him. The Noble Lord then proceeded to jut,-
tify the keeping up of the embassy on the same foot-
ing as it had been placed on at the settlement of the
peace, on the ground of the necessity of main-
taming our influenee in that country undi.'
minislied. And to show that it was intended
to continue it on the same scale after Mr. S.
Canning's removal, he read a ropy of the dia.
patch to that Gentlemen, directing bin to an-
nounce to the Swiss Government his recd,
said reciting the explanation he was to give
of the delay of the arrival of bin appointed sue-
' eraser (Mr. F. Cathcart) then attached to the
embassy at St. Petersburgli. Circumstances
afterwards occurred to prevent the fulfilment of
Mr. Cothran's appointment, and Mr. Disbrow,
was sent thinker as Charge d'Affaires, ad interim.
He had thus given • full explanation, perhaps too
foil.—(Hear, hear.)—Bet in certain positions it
was impossible to tell a little without telling every
thing. If the House believed that s Committee of
the House could conduct the diplomatic concerns
of the country better than the Ministers of the
Cro•N they would vote for the motion of the Hon.
Gentleman. But he apprehended if they eu-
tertained the present motion, they were only in the
fire stage of the inquiry, and the Hon. Gentleman
himself could feel it to lie his duty to move an
adjournment, for it would he neees.ary that the
Howie should have the *foie of the correspoodeuce

...• . . ,
with the Swiss Cantons since the Congress of
Vienna ; indeed he apprehended they *must go
further, and call for the collateral correspondence.
If the Swiss Cantons were glow neglected, he ap-
prehended that should • war break out, some other
interests would be found to have sprung up there.
He trusted the House would tint quit the paths
which their ancestors had trod, which had conducted
the country to power, glory, and honour ; and above
all, that they would not adopt • principle which
was impracticable in the most democratic States.
Lord NoartatinV said he was not without hopes,
notwithstanding the threats of the Noble Lord, to
see the day not when the Noble Lord would crape
to fill the antiunion of Foreign Secretary of State,
hut without an Envoy to the Swiss Cantons, at an
expense of 4,0001. • year. His opposition was to
the appointment, and was not founded on any per-
sonal motives. He had not the honour to have any
knowledge of the Him. Gentleman, who, no question,
was perfectly competent to fill the situation, and
even perform the duties, should any be required of
him. He was afraid that the Noble Lord was about
to disclose to the House some state secret, but the
closest Foreign Secretary would acquit the Noble
Lord, for he bad acquainted the House with no-
thing. He called the attention of the House to the
fact, that in Switzerland, where no case of expense
had been made out, the salary had been trebled.
Mr. WAILER then briefly replied.
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY said, he should
move the previous question on the declaratory Re-
solution., and meet the last resolution with • direct
negative.
The House then divided, when there appeared....
_ .

Fir 'be Motioo
141
Against it

Majority for Mi.i.len lud
DISTRESS IN IRELAND.

On our return to the Gallery we found
Mr. Gout.nons on his legs. He said that he
apprehendrd too opposition would be made to the
proposition which he intended to submit to the
House. It was intended that the distressed people
of Ireland, instead of having food given them gra-
tuitously, should be enabled to procure it by their
own exertions. It was well known to Gentle-
men connected with Ireland, that there were
large tracts of country in which the common,-
cation was very imperfect, and from this im-
peded communication had arisen many of those
evils of which the country had to complain.—
It tended to encourage Crime of every description,
and rendered the haunts of the illicit distiller im-
pervious to those by whose exertions alone it could
be put down. The Bill which he proposed to bring
in would place at the disposal of the Lord Lieute-
nant a sum of money, to be expended in the forma-
tion of roads and commuroictitimis ; not under local
authority, but under the responsibility of Government
and the superintendence of officers appointed by it,
acid by whom every shilling issued would be account-
ed fur. He had not inserted any compulsory clause
for the repaymeut of the money, relying upon its
being a measure gratefol to the country Gentlemen
of Ireland ; but when the works were completed,
the accounts would be submitted to the Grand
Jury, leaving it to them to say what proportion of
the expense should be repaid. As much of the
value of the measure depended on dispatch, he
hoped that if the House acquiesced in the mea-
sure, they would consent to forward it with all pos-
sible dispatch.—(Hear, hear, hear.)
Sir WILLIAM DI CRESPIONT expressed his
satisfsction at the measure, ■nd he trusted the relief
afforded would be permanent.

Mr. SPRING Rica said, the measure was not
only expedient. but the wisest that could be adopt.
ed. There was no choice ; either the people must
be left to starve, receive gratuitous relief, or be re-
lieved in the present mode. He was satisfied the
gentlemen of Ireland would freely answer to the
call made upon them by the Right Hon. Gentleman,
and take care that the country should suffer no
lose by the exertions now made. He took the pre-
sent opportunity of expressing his feelings of
grati-
tude at the exertion made by the British people
for the relief eci his suffering countrymen. On the
pert of Government it was an act of duty, but on the
part of the people it was a mat k of that great, good,
and generous conduct. which he trusted would be
repaid by the grateful feelings of the lash people.
Sir E. O'BRIEN approved of the measure. and
expressed his gratitude for the relief afforded by
the people. No sooner was the distress known
than a subscription was entered into, and on the
following day remittances were made for their relief.
Mr. Hurts wished to know what counties the
publio works were to be carried on in ?
Mr. COULBURN replied, in those counties where
the dirress was found to be most prevalent.
Mr. Baouttiest expressed his approval of the
measure, though he by no means meant to commit
himself to approving the tneasures of Government
with regard to Ireland. and more particularly as to
the time when the Government turned their atten-
tion to the subject.
Mr. GouLonan said Government had inquired
into the distress, and had taken steps to apply a re-
medy. He should be perfectly ready to meet any
motion which the Learned Gentleman might make
on that subject.
Mr. BROUGHER had no intention of making
any motion himself, but he desired not to preclude
himself from supporting any which might be made.
Mr. Gaerram said the money ought to be laid
' out with caution, for it might happen that roads
were not wanted in the districts where the distress
existed. Heconcurred in the expression of gratitude
to the people of this country for their prompt assist-
once, but he thought the Government could hardly
be acquitted of blame, as the distress had been
known since January, and this was the first
measure adopted for their relief.
The Bill was them, ordered to he brought in.
The CH•NCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved
for leave to bring in a Bill to extend to Great Bri.
trio the powers of the Commissioners of inquiry
into the Revenue (Ireleod).
After some conver.atioe, in which the following
Members participated. Mr. Hume. Mr. %Nikes,
Mr. Wallace, Mr. Spring Rice. and General Hart,
leave was granted. The 801 l was accordingly brought
in, read a first time, and ordered to be read a se-
cond time on Monday next.
The other Orders of the Day were then dis-
posed of, and the Hens, adjourned at HALP•PAET
ELsres o'CLocc.

sitsontrr
Of 14 who villa tor Mr. Leonard's Mdtion for It ("OT TO.
Ire to inquire into the expenditure of the Third (.11.1..j
the Cord List, for A tnhassuilurn and G oaul., row
eider• whether stir ft,dttetitto entol.l he made in thit f,
pri.P, tend the ■m•atot h.ooeht to the Coosoludate I
as disected by the Act for g I service.—May I.

Althorp, Vise. Formal.% Lord W. Nevrorm, R. Ir.
Aran.. y, S.r Jobs F.iti r, T. Werailachan, J.
Anson, Hun. G. Fitzrriy, Lord C. Osborne, Lord F.
A •1.11, W. Fetlierscirse,SirG.R.l /rd. W.
Atu rcrornby, Hs. J. Groom nor, Hon. R. Price, R.
Vardert, Sir F. Gooney. R. H. Pm. F.
Boughton, Ste C. R. Guise, Sir W. Palmer, Colonel
Busighey, thr J. F. Great', I'. 'rainier, C. F.
Brougham, H. Grant, J. P. Pares, Thos.
Bright, H. Griffith, J. W. Pone, H.
Barnard, Vise. Gratis'', J. Pow. r, R.
Birch, J. Gaskell, B. Poole's, Hap. 17,
Rearm, J. Howard, Hon. W. Robert., A. W.
BBearprHitt,'SH.°A.L.H.G. Home,
'and, W. Rivard,, 11.
(Oillonil
Bury, Vile. Hill, Lord A. Rice, T. S.
Belgrave, Vise. Heatheotc.G. J. Robertson, Sir G.
Browne, D. Mosby, R. Rieliford, W.
Bernal, IL Hoilrhinsurr, Hon. 'tombola C.
Becher, W. W. C H. Ridley, Sir M. W.
Blake, Sir F. Honywood, W. P. Smith. Hen R.
Butterworth, J. Hurst, R. Searli ti, .1.
Bye% Geo. Hughes, Colon.' Stanley, Lord
Baring, Sir Thos. Illobhusite, J. C. Sefton, Lord
Baring, H. James, IV. Smith, War.
Crompton, Sam. Jervoise, G. P. Sykes, D. Calera., J. Kennedy, T. F. Sehnert, Sir J.
Calera', J. R. Leihhridge,Sir T. Smith, s.
Cockburn, R. Lockhart, J. I. Stuart, Lord J.
Coke, T. W. Lamb, Hon. G. Scutt, J.
C•A•Piklls Ho. G.P. Lalerillerr, Ralph Tierney, Rt. Hon. G.
Campbell, W. Lester, B. L. Tirclifield. Marg.
Cosier, John Lemon, Sir W. Townsliend, Lord C.
Cavendish, Lord G. Langston', J. H. Tivisturk, Marquis
Cairesdish, Lord C. Lloyd, Sir E. Tynte, C.
Caveadish, Lord H. Lashiagion, Dr. Westein, C. C. .
Clifton, Vise. Larosebe, It. W.KI, Aklermas
Carew, R. S. Musick, J. B. Wskull, Sir H.
Coneausim, L. Macdonald, James Webhi•, E.
Calvert, C. Moberly, John William., John
Caulfield, Hou. H. Mackintosh, Sir J. Willis ms,So H.
Coffin, Sir I. Martin, J. Whitmore, I'. W.
De CrespisobSirW.Marjoribanks, S. Woof,. J. A.
Davies, Cul. Morays, Sir T. H hii Weed, W. H.
Defuse'', W. J. Marrynit, J. Whitbread, S. C.
Denman, T. Mahon, Hon. S.
Ehekinson, W. Moore, Peter TELLERS.
Dirndl's, C. Newport, Rt. Hon. Leonard, T. B.
Ebriagrou, Vise. Sir John Caere', T.
Ellice, Ed. Normanby, Vise. PAIRiD OM
Ells, Hos. G. A. Neville, Hun. R. Romell, Lord J.
kergostin, Sir R. C. Nurses!, Lord Phillips, G.

• _
1111