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Commons was the Ist of August.
e Bill could not pass before the
Lords thought that, by altering
lune, it would le nearer the
Commons, than to let it stand over
There was no alteration with
parts of the Bill, but only
return ; and for these reasons,
judged the Amendments might

said, it was not consistent
the House, to trust them in
own ; and therefore he hoped
with the utmost caution in

that knowing how very to.
. always been in allowing
fight in any degree trench on
'ipposing they might expel
. on the subje!l, he had given
aeration in his power, and had
precedents relating to it. In all
he trusted the House would
sendment.—ln matters of a
Amendments by the Lords
In respea to this Bill, the
,s 1 conformity to whatever was
ilitia Bill in I 757 ; where the
pages with Amendments —ln
struck out the whole force to be
Distria, and all the money
. force. On consideration of
some of them were agreed to,
assigning reasons for the same,
was privilege.—He then cited
nature as to the alteration of
/97, an Amendment in the
Notes, and 14th May 1799,
sese, he said, were the cases he
thought it his duty to state to,
the House.

would not consent to the
privileges in any one instance.
would lead to another ; and
be wholly lost. Substance,
never be admitted in oprosi-
the whole business 4 pri, arge
2 ; and if any part of that form
mast dangerous consequences

&palm against the Amendment.
pissoa could, after the passing of
exemption, according to the el-
and he thought the best way
, to le.sve the Amendment out altogether,
and put a clause to the same died into the Supple-
mentary Bill, intended to be brought in.
Lord CASTLERF.AGH said, there was, on the
vary face of this proceeding, a sufficient proof to
satisfy the House that it had not been the objea of
the House of Lords to give new exemptions, by the
amendment they had made in the Bill ; but to.enable
Volunteers to take the benefit of the exemptions as
I anon as possible, after the passing of the Ad. The
Lemßill stated, that the sth of April was the day mat-
t to which the exemptions were to be claimed.
only question therefore was, whether the Lords ,
bed pone beyond the purpose which the House of 1
Commons had in view ? In nit opiftion, they had um ;
Inv on the contrary, that they carried the intentions
of le Commons more fully into 'flea.
Mr. GREY said, he never would suffer the privi-
leges of the House to be invaded in any one respetl.
The opinion just given by the Noble Lord, in sup-
port of the Amendment, contained doftrine the most
hostile to those privileges of any he had ever heard.
The Noble Lord called on the House to adore this
Amendment, in defiance of the rules of the House,
became it had been adopted by the Lords, in further-
ance of the objet and wish of the House of Corn-
itlnfli. The same thing might be said in any other
'Bill. A Tax Bill might be passed by the Howes
sent op to the Lords, and they might say they wins
ading in furtherance of the wishes of the Commons,
if they even increased the amount of the tax, or
altered the time for the payment of it. The House
of Commons would then cease to be the guardian of
the public property. This was the most dangerous
and unconstitutional doarine he had eves 'heard.
The House must never listen to such, and it could
rot be too nice or delicate on questions of this kind.
He saw no objcftion to the proposal of his Hon.
Friend, Mr. Sheridan, to rejed the Amendment,
and supply its defect in the new Supplementary Bill.
Sir RALPH MILBANK thought the House
should never allow the Lords, in any instance, to
er.inch upon its privileges.
Mr. FOX said, that in consequence of what had
just passed, And after the statement which had been
so ably and so fairly made from the chair with re-
gard to the usages of the House, be was more than
ever convinced of the necessity cf rejeding the pre-
sent amendment : and he fully agreed with his
Hon. Friend that it was a most dangerous doiftrine
to say the [iris amendments in a Money Bill must
be agreed to, because they aged in furtherance of
the wishes of the Commons. He felt i: a duty on
him to take care that the House should not abandon
its antient privileges ; and, in order to do so, he
could wish to hear ancient precedents quoted. A
Right Hon. Gentleman had told the House that an
an.eudinent of the Lords in a Tat &U had been
once agreed to, which went to alter the date of the
period at which the tat was to commence. le: this
precedent be bad, in order that the House might
kma, to its shame, its having permitted such a viola-
tion of its privilege.. To suffer such a thing to be
done, would be just the same as telling the Lords
they had a tight to lay taxes on the people; and the
House might as well at once give up ail its old pri-
vileges.
The amendments were then ordered to be read a
second time. And, on the reading of the amend-
ment in question ;
bk. PITT said, the result of all the discussion
that had just taken place was to confirm him in the
opinion that the Lords, in altering the date in the
manna they did, had done nothing inconsistent
with the privileges of the House ; . and therefore,
that it ought not to alter the course of proceeding,
which was now desirable. As to the amendment
haring been made in furtherance of the wishes of
the Commons, be begged leave to say, that by that
was not meant a general furtherance ; but only the
means of rendering one particular objea In the Bill
mare practicable.
The amendment was then agreed :::.

tamed by the Common!
- was found that the Bill c
, of May. and the Lords t
day to the Ist of June,
ion of the Commons,
the Ist of August. The
d to any pecuniary p;
toc thomemdaitteteeoti-lathde
judged
fely be agreed to.
Mr. FRANCIS said,
the privileges of the
y hands but their own ;
e house would aa wits
e presenr case .
The SPEAKER said, th
ions the House had al
mendments which might
. ,
it privi.eges; and supp
old ive his opinion on I
the fullest consideration
suited all the precedent
es of aid or supply, he
ver pass over an Amen
er nature, several A:
beet agreed to. In
itt.ne had lofted in co
in the Great Militia
ds filled many pages
of which, they struck
vide.l by the Tower Di
the snpport of that for
se Amendments, some
others tejeted, assign
d indicat that it was
cedents tithe same Oat
tea in 1782. In 1797,
ct for Promissory Note
haring the day. These,
sad colleted, and he thou
nd lay them before the I
Mr. WINDHAM wt
ouse relaxing its privile
ne a& of relaxation wan
' ems the p -ivileges might I
he contended, should nev
tion to form; almost the
1
was a miner of form ; it
was laid aside, the most
might foil .w.
Mr. SHER/DAN spot
He said, that no perso:i
the AR, claim his exem
terat:on thus made; and
would be, to leave the A

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