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npon. The flattery towards men in power was car. the. cteintry would be left open to those scenes of
tied to such excess, that he could recollea Gantle- bloodshed which it had been before stained with,
men having seriously asserted, and mentioned in and which, he said, residing in it, he had a better
public companies, that Lori Hobart was a much right to know then any of those gentlemen who did
more eloquent man than Mr. Flood had ever been. not.
'Thesepinegerics were easily obtained, but he Mr. MAY said, he represented a part of the
thought the people of Ireland would indeed be very North of Ireland, which certainly was as 1(141, and
hardly dealt with, if they ha Ino other security for ,is sillier, as any part of the United Kingdom hut
that was not ale case in the southern and Western
their liberties than the chat-after of those who may
happen to be in power. parts of the courtry.
Mr. WARD said, that at every time this ques- Earl TEMPLE took a review of what 1:1,1
tion was stirred in the House, whenever the Suspen- been said on the subjea, and Concluded by
sion of the Habeas Corpus An was moved for, the before th'e Address was presented to His Ma;
same topics were brought forward, and the same sib- stating, that Ireland was perfesctly quiet and trano,ol,
jeetions refuted, which Gentlemen thought proper why did not the Representatives of Ireland step ,--
to renew in the course of the present debate. In ward, and prevent that House going to the font ~f
proof of this assertion, he se's r eferring to some oh- the Throne with an Address, which did not cont.:in
serrations made in the last Session, when he was in- one word of truth, relative to that wifortunate
terrupted by country ?
Lord A RCHIBALD HAMILTON, who said, Mr. MA sr and Donor DVICZN AN explained.
it was disorderly to refer to' the speeches made in Earl TEMPLE also explained, and s ,id, he un-
that House in any former debate. derstood the Gentleman to have hiseed, that the
Mr. WA RD proceeded, and in reply to the last Members fot England had not the same love I e
Noble Speaker, said, he had a right, he believed, Ireland, As those who represented it.
to refer to any thing generally, which was more of Colonel HUTCHINSON said, he was convinced,
an historical nature than any direa allusion to what if His Majesty's Ministers had known the turn this
might have been uttered by any individual in A debate would have taken, they never would ha"
former debate. Those Gentlemen who spoke of brought it forward. He was sure they could not have
the probably had effefts of this measure, reminded wished to hear such words pass as they had that
him of the Captain of a ship, who, being bound night heard in the course of the debate. He con.
upon a long and perilous voyage, expended a con- eluded by saying it was his decided intention to sup.
siderable sum in the purchase of medicines for the port the suspension of the aft.
use of his crew; but on bis return, complained Lord HENRY PE'[ I'Y shortly observed, be hal
that he 'had thrown away his money, AS he had said that notoriety was a sistfi• ient ground for re-
not, dining the voyage, had one sick person on newing the aft, but it should, he thought, be that
board. So it was with the opposers of this Bill notoriety of existing disturbances, which would pit
Grey were always fearful of the consequence, and, it beyond the possibility of doubt, that imminent
when the time of its renewal arrived, found they had danger might ensue if the suspension of this A a
nothing to complain of. It was not, in his opinion, was not agreed to. The Question was now loudly
true, that when this measure was resorted to, there and the House divided,
was not a strong spirit of rebellion, and if it was for- For the Amendment—Ayes 54—Noes 139
tunately suppressed, it was only done by measures of Ata: 'city 103.
•ille Bill was then ordered to be reported.—
vigour, as that which was now proposed. The histori-
cal references made, if further pursued, would shew Adjourned to Monday.
that the measure, in its present state, was by no
means unprecedented. When the aft was 'upended,
in the reign of William 111. no other ground was
laid before Parliament but what was mentioned in
His Majesty's Speech from the Throne; and when
the Suspension Aft was about to expire in the next
year, it was renewed without any previous enquiry
in Parliament. In the year 17A a similar conduft
was pursued, and the Habeas Corpus Aft suspended,
without any enquiry, or any information at all be-
yond what was conveyed in His Majesty's Speech
from the Throne. It was true that a strong pro-
test was entered against that measure in the House
of Lords, but the leading argument of the protest
was, not that there was no committee of inquiry,
but that the existence of the conspiracy was a mat-
ter of notoriety seven months before. (The Hon
iNtmnber, we presume, though lie did not mention
it, alluded to the conspiracy of Christopher buyer,
who was hanrßed for treason in the reign of George
the First.) He made use, he said, of these cases,
in order to sliew that it was not the antient or esta-
blished custom of Parliament to base recourse to
previous evidence in proceedings of this kind.
Mr. WIRDHAM and Mr. WARD both said a few
words in explanation.
Sir JOH g NEWPORT observed, that in all
the eases quoted by tile Honourable Gentleman,
the suspension took place on the authority of
speeches from the Throne ; but in the present in-
stance, even that authority was wanting. The cit.•
cunistances of Ireland had not altered since the ,
meeting of parliament; and as the Ministers had
then the same grounds for this measure that they
Could possibly pretend to now, why not make it a
pan in His Majesty's speech, for he had a parlia-
mentary right to consider the speech from the
Throne as the speech of the Minister? To speak
more plainly, it was very well known that both the
Speech and the Address were of his manufaaure.
Haying omitted to mention so very important a cir-
cumstance in His Majesty's Speech, how could they
have the confidence to come to the House, and in
the second month state to the House, that the
necessity of a measure was a matter of public
notoriety. For Isis own part, he protested against
it being attributed to him, that he denied the
necessity of the measure; but, as the amend-
ment would leave time enough to inquire, he
wished the inquiry to be instituted. There was no
reason, no colour, for associating this situation
of Ireland, with the rebellion of 1798, but even
then, the duration of the bill was limited; and
the Habeas Corpus Aft afterwards suspended, till
that circumstance, which, for some purposes, was
called a rebellion, and, for other purposes, a paltry
riot, took place, on the 24th of July ; which
alarmed, for the moment, the country and the Par-
iament.

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THE BRITISH Pit ESn.

SATURDAY. FZIIRUAILY IG.

We have more than once stated that the loan
would be for about 25 millions, or thereaboats.'
This statement. which wts contrary to the general
opinion, as well as the account of all our contem-
poraries, is now confirmed. The Gentlemen who
mean to bid for the loan, yesterday waited upon
the Minister, when the amnunt was declared. It is
221 billions for England and Ireland, inzliidir:„;
five millions for Continental purposes : 151'.. 3 per
cent. Consols is to be given for every 1001. and the
bidding is to be in the 3 per cent. Reduced. There
are four lists, viz. Sir F. Bastrio, Co. and AN-

ozasrzis ; Go.z.metin and Co; *Cuari.t, Ru.
SAM, TULLLUSSOM, and WAR.° ; and. the Gen-
tlemen of the Stock Exchange. All the stock
had been btnight up, under the idea that the
loan would have been very smell. The an-
nouncercent. there( 're, of so large a sum, and of
the appropriati,:n of a part for Continental use, ex-
cited much dismay in the city. The account, how-
ever, was received too late to have any eifee urn
the funds, ai it was not generally known ur.til the
close of the mai ket. The bidding is to take plat,
on Monday.

Mr. FOX said, that he did not tie for the pur-
pose of now entering into the merits of this ques-
tion, but to beg the Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Wald).
who dwelt so much upon historical precedents, to
re-consider whether he was justified in the assertion,
that no parliamentary inquiry took place on the
subject of the conspiracy in 17V.
Mr. MstIAGHTEN said, he did not suppose any
Gentleman in that House denied, that there might
not at least be a necessity lot tt.e Suspension of that
Al. The present law was m.:de to continue for six
weeks after the commencement of the present Ses-
sions ; the question now'was, whether it should not
be continued for six weeks after the commencement
of the ensuing Sessions, and they were • discussing,
• whether there existed a sufficient notoriety of di.-
tarbances in Ireland to wars ant that continuance
Colonel BAGIYE observed, that in the part of
the country in which he lived, the notoriety teas suf-
ficiently manifested: such acts of atrocity were corn.
mitred as would remove every doubt that scold be
entertained on the subject. •
Lord DE 1.11. IQUIF.KE said, he thought the
records of the Courts of Justice in Leland were
sufficient proofs of the notoriety of existing disturb-
ances.

The Debate, last night, ill the House of Lrrei
upon the Earl of DARNLEY'S Motion, was render c.I
still more interesting by some personal allusi
,whici, were ably answered by Lord GRENVILLE.

We yesterday gave the speech of the COUINILL.
LOR of ST %TB to the Legislative Body, on
before it the letter of dunks. %RTC to the King
ENGLAND, and Lord Nir centove's answer, up-'
the dtlr instant. A similar communieation tr..>
made upon the same day to the Tribunate and the
Conservative Senate, accompanied by speeches in
the same hostile spirit, boasting of the strength and
resources of France, ridiculiiig the, military pre-
parations and spirit of England, and treating her
hopes of a Continental alliance as an idle chimera.

We understand that the irryinosith has procceJel
for India with her convoy.
There is to be a silver coinage of eleven pent.
piece, and a copper coin.tge of halfpenny, 'bra'
farthing, and twopenny pieces, for Ireland. The emit
is to be different from that oh England, under the
idea that it will be an obstacle to exportation
We understand, that the otter o 1 executing it has
been made to the Bask of Iteland.

Mr. KINNAIRD thought it the dory of the
Douse, as curators of the people, to enquire strictly
into every thing which the Government 'should lay
before them, tending to nice away, or abridge, in
any respell, the liberty of the people, who►e repre-
sentatives they were.
Dr. DUIGENAN observed, the Suspension AiS
LI being in force, was the reason why so few Ads of
atrocity were committed, and if it was not renewed,

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