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NEW DU nEs ON STAMPS.

On a motion being made for putting off, till Wed.
nesdity next, the Committee on the Bill for laying
new Duties on Stamps ;
Mr. iIIsIERIDAN rose to express his earnest
wish that some longer time might be allowed for
considering a measure of so important and com-
plicated a nature as the present. It was of this im-
portance, that no less a sum than 900,0001. was pro-
posed to be raised on stamps, in addition to the duties
they already paid. He thought this measure was
nothing more than a modif.cation or a consolidation
the old duties ; instead of which, it went to make
an enormous addition to them. As the schedule
now stood, it was impossible to understand the sub-
jai, or know the difference between the new and the
old duties. In oue column there should have been
an account of the old duty, and in another, and a
coffee? .nding, there should be an account of the new
duties; he hoped something of this kind would be
done, and that longer rime might he allowed, to en-
able C./end-men t,, understand the measure; which
at rrese:lt a„rayed to he unjew, oppressive, and
Lot likely t 1). produEtive. A great number of
l.cr,• v.. : ;.r.t.r:st was likely to be effetted by
I:di, • • • m.. 1.21 alarmed on account of it, and
Lift: at 7 I, he hoped the ttiglt Hon. Gentleman
i...1.-Rion to postpone it to Friday or
.t. ...Ir. Sheridan afterwards moved
...at tt a... ..id be postponed to Ft iday.

. Mr. PUT observed. that the Hon. Gentleman
must certainly have been mistaken, if he had sup.
posed shat tbiameasure would be nothing more than
a simple consolidation of the duties on Stamps,
without any addition being made to the old duties.
It must be in the recolleifhon of the House, that the
Right Hon. Gentleman, whu lately filled the office
which he now Lehi, did, a considerable time ago,
give notice that a proposition would be made to raise
the sum of 800,0001. by making an addition to the
Stamp aides; therefore, neither the House, nor
the public, could have been taken by surprise, on the
gutsier; and when he himself brought forward the
measure, a week ago, he ..aid the schedule should
be printed, which was done on Saturday last ; and,
without stating what the items were, at that time,
he barely observed, that an addition of one-third,
and in some respeets, of one-fourth, was intended
to be laid on the existing duties. There would be
time enough to consider :his Bill, before it should
pass ; and, as he saw no reason why the House might
not enter into she discussion of it, on the day pne
posed, he cieild not agree to pot it off.
Mr. MA ITIM wished the Lill to be postponed.
Mr. FON fiLANQUE observed, it was very
true, the House might have h-aid of its befog in-
tended to increase the Stamp Duties; however, the
cpiesti.in at present did not apply to the principle,
but to the detail of the neeasure, and it was in order
to understand the detail, that time was required.
But, for his own part, he objected to the principle
of it, because it went directly to affect the adminis-
tration of justice in a most extraordinary manner ;
and he would ask the House, if it would be fit to put
it in the power of any individual to go forth and
say, he could not findlriStice on account of the enor-
mous expence • attending all legal proceedings?
lie was sorry to find that a measure of this kind
should be so much treated as a matter of course.
Fhis was not a time to oppress the House with mea-
sures of this kind ; every thing should be done that
might secure their confidence in the Government.
lie really believed the !tight lion. Gentleman now
felt doubts on the subject of this.measure ; that he
had resorted to it, not as a measure of choice, but
of necessity ; and that he did not do so without a con-
siderable degree of anxiety. Pe ought to have con-
sulted every man in the House, and in the country,
capable of giving him information, before he thus
invaded the administration of justice. If this Bill
should pass into a law, as it now stood, the officers
of the courts) of justice would no longer be able
to go through their ordinary business: they
could not raise their prices, for these were fixed by
law. The fees of the Courts were fixed and station-
ary, and they must continue so, unless changed by
Act of Parliament. He would ask the Right
Hon. Gentleman whether these persons ought not
now to be beard again— this Hill, and whether sufg-
ci nem: and oppoibrotf ought not to be allowed
them for that purpose ?
The ATTORNLY.GENERAL said, he was
certain that all persons interested in this measure
would have full information in it, and have sufficient
opportunity to state their grievances. The schedule
of the new duties was delivered on Friday last, and
the parties interested must have had time between
then and Wednesday ne-e, to confider it.
Dr. LAURENCE said, he was confident that
those who introduced this measure did not, at the
time, understand the details of it; and, therefore,
he hoped that sufficient time might he allowed for
considering them. As an instance of the enormous
and oppressive encrease of taxation likely to result
Com those details, in the form in which they were in-
troduced, he would just state, that in the Court
where he praeised, the expences of stamps, in a
certain cause, amounted to about 751 ; and if, at
the time, the present Bill existed as a law, these ex-
pences would have amounted to between 11 and
I,ltool. The case was one in which :he Marquis of
Winchester was concerned. He strongly objeened
to this tax. The administration of justice ought not
to be forced to pay so large a tax. When duties
were first laid on stamps, they were not objeded to,
because they were small. But the tax might at
length be so burthensome. that the very principle
would be objeded to. If this measure was adopted,
the burt.hens on the Courts of Law would be ten
times greater than ever they were.
Lord ARCHIBALD HAMILTON objected to
the Rill.

Mr. SHERIDAN said, the schedule was only
printed on Saturday, and else persons who were the
objets of the Bill had not s a! it until that morning.
Mr. PI CT said, he had that morning received a
copy of resolutions entered into last Saturday by se-
♦eral persons calling ti emselves a Law Society ; and
although, according to the Honourable Gentleman's
statement, they had not received the Schedule until
that morning, they passed t'aose resolutions, pro-
bably without knowing any thing of the subjeft.
It appeared. therefore, that they were prepared to
oppose the measure before they saw it ; it could
not, therefore, be contended that they wanted
informat;on on did subjed. For his own part,
he did not now wish to argue the question;
nor was this the proper stage for arguing the t•"^s-
ral principle. As to the tat stated by a Learned
Gentleman. on the other side of the House, of a
certain rate of duty being increased from 751. to
1.2001. that was merely a defed in a particular item,
which had been rectified, and which might be
amended in the Committee. The lawyers had no
occasion to be so alarmed as they appeared to be ;
they surely were not that defenceless class of beings,
who were likely to sustain an ininry, in the manner
that was stated; and be himself had too high a re.
sped for a profession to which he once belonged, to
propose any Pleasure that would subjel them to in-
convenience.

Dr. LAURENCE explained.
Mr. WINDHAM thought it was natural that de-
lay was wished for, s hen a Bill of this kind came
upon men by surprise,• and when the author hiamelf
was not well acquainted with it. It was a Bill
which anaonsuad to scitnethii4 very peat in its con.

sequences; and, is di
have the aid of persons
very circumstance of
with it, WAS the best

Ltyed.
The Howe then di'

till Wednesday, 73—For postponing to Friday, 33.
The report of the Cotton Bill was brought up,
and the amendments were agreed to. The mo-
tion for reading it a third time to morrow was
objected to by
Col. STANLEY, who said, the master manu-
facturers ought to know the alterations that bad
been made intlihe bill; and which alterations we••
contrary to the resolutions that had been agreed
to by the manufactu ers themselves. He then
moved, that it be read a third time on to-m...r-
-row se'nnight. This motion, after some objections
from Mr. Rose, was agreed to.

LOYALTY
Mr. PITT ipt,ved. than cite act for raising the
Loyalty Loan ue read : and, the same being done,
he ma..ed, that the House do resolve itself into a
committee to-morrow, to consider the said act.

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A titreecl to.
M. FRANCIS moved, that there be laid before
the Wiese an account of the cash fund of the East
India C on: pany, from 1,793 to March 11104. Ordered.
VOTES OF CREDIT.
The i-louse having resolved itself into a Committee
of Supply, and His-Majesty's Message, with several
estimates and accounts, being referred to the same ;
and the Message being then read (see our paper
yesterday) ;
Mr. PI IT said, that in consequence of the re-
commendation contained in llis Majesty's Most
gracious Message, he ahoti!tl vote that the suns of
2,500,0031. should be granted by a vote of credit,
and the objed would be to enable His Majesty to
provide for any unforeseen expences which the
exigency of affairs might require. But. besides the
expences that might hereafter be 115CUlleti, there
were others for which no provision had been made
in the supplies of the year, and which should be
paid out of this sum. Among these was the sum
of between 5 and 600,0001. for paying the arre trs
on the Civil List. The sett was the sum of 320,0001.
to make good the deficiencies in the eriatates of the
Navy. The additional expence attending Volunteer
Ccrps, in consequence of the days of exercise haw-
ing been increased. and so great a number (170040
melt) haring been called out on permanent duty.
amounted to 160,0001. The whole expence
was 1,200,0001. As other Corps were still hkrly to
come out on permanent duty. it would be necessary
to reserve a sum of between 20 and 30.0001. for
meeting that expence. After the expenses already
incurred should be defrayed, there mould remain
a sum of about 1,500,0001. applicable to any emer-
gencies that might arise. He then moved to grant
the sum of 2,.50:40001. to His Majesty ; which was
agreed to.
Mr. FOSTER moved a similar vote of credit, for
800,0001. for Ireland; which was agreed to.
Mr. NTT*said, he should next call the attention
of the House :o a subjea whi:h had produced some
conversation on a former day. He alluded to the
British Museum. Since then, a plan and estimate
were laid betbre the House, from which he was con-
fident every Gentleman would be satisfied, every
necessary inquiry had been made on the subje4i. lie
then misted. that the rim of 8,0001. be granted to
the trustees of the British Museum, to enable them
to carry into execution the trust committed to them.
Mr. JOHNSTONE made some observations on
the admission of persons to the Museum.
Mr. ROSE said, that, by a recent resolution of
the Trustees, a mach greater facility was now
given for the admission of the public. Additional
oScers were provided, and persons could now be
admitted on the same day when they spplied.
The SPEAKER said, that, as being one of the
Trustees of the Museum in virtu* of the situatiits
he bad the honour to fill in that House, he,could not
let this matter now pass away unexplained, a. tist
back as two years ago, the Trustees had paid att. a-
tion to this very subjed, which was now under this
eussion, and had agreed that additonal Offieers
should be appointed, and greater facility afforded
the public. he House must therefore perceive,
that the measum recently adopted was not a sudden
alteration, but one that had been long determined
upon.

The Motion was then agreed to.
Mr. Ml' said, he should next move a sum of
money for the establishment of sierra Leone. List
year 10,0001. had been voted ; but the grant was
delayed on account cf the report made of the state
of the Settlement by a Naval Officer, who had been
on that station. This officer had since been examip+
ed before the Committee of that House. and their
report must convince the House of the utility of that
establishment.4oll.sides the 10,0001. already voted,
and doool. for fortifications, there would also i e
required the sum of 10,0001. more; making in all
28,0001. He was confident that this colony would
make a considerable prawn's: in promoting in.
dustry among the natives of Africa ; and, when
similar settlements should be formed in other parts
of the coast, a proof would be Afforded how supe-
rior free labour 'Vas to that of slaves ; and a system
might at length be e‘tablished much more congas
nial to the feelings of every man di in the present
trade. He then moved the sum of 28,,ic01. for the
use of the settlement of Sierra Leone.
Mr. DENT opposed the grant of this money, as
being to be paid for the interests of a colory that
was not deserving that totaideration which nosy
persons gave to it, and which, be was sorry to ob-
serve his Right Hon. Friene, (Mr. Port) was so
ready to favour. He referred to the report of Cap•
min Hallowell, who had been sent out on purpose
to inspect the state of the colony, and who had
given it as hts decided opinion, that it could seven
eof any service to tlis , ountry. H., insisted, that
as a commercial concern, it had entirely fai:ad

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liscuuing it, it Was necessary to 1,
ons out of that 'louse; and the 9'
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and, as a proof of it, he asserted that the shares of
the Company we- e now at 95 per cent. discount.
It was tl•erehne ••vident it was a speculation which
hail railed, end which obstinacy alone was the occa-
sion of persisting in. Even the Maroons, who had ,
been sent there, were desirous of being removed ;
and he could not consent to.vote.away the money
of his co;..zitirents for the purpose of supporting
so losing a concern.
Mr. WINDHAM said the original object to
form a settlement there, was with a view of civi-
lising the manners of he people, and by degrees to
get rid of the Slave Trade. The question appeared-
to him to stand thus : If it does not answer as a
commercial concern, whether it is likely to do so in
any other ? As such, he would be cautious of voting
the public money to support acolony, the existence
•f which was so precanous and uncertain.
Mr. FULLER said a few words against the motion.
Mr. H. THORNTON said, no infant colony was
ewer set on footwithout having great dilsculties to
encounter, and' without being aided and assisted by
government. The Sierra Leone Company had cer-
tainly encountered very severe difficulties. They
had struggled with a war of ten years continuance,
under great dikadvantages ; during the greatest part
of which time they had no fort to protea them
against the attacks of the natives, which was one
considerable cause of the ill success of the settle-
ment. The chief evils were now removed, and 'the
question was, whether parliament, having trans-
planted colonies there from Nova Scotia (the Ma-
roons, feel, will continue to support the expence,
• or will stop short at the pr• sent moment ? In his
opinion the parliament were in some resp• Fa bound
to give this support. The company had ..dually
expended the sum asked for, and had not received
the 10,0001. voted last. year. The company could
not support the colonies wnich had been thrown on
them by government, nor could they at present
• withdraw themselves from the concern. The sum
WOW proposed to be voted, was to indemnify the
company till government should take the colonies
formed there into their own hands, at which time,
whenever it may erns.; the company are willing to

resign it.
Mr. DENT explained.
Dr. LAURENCE commended the benevolent
sad philendiropic views of the Gentlemen forming
the Sierra Leone Company ; bet thought, as it had
failed of success in a commercial point of view, it
would be wrong to vote the public money towards
its further support.
Lord H. PE rr Y said's* h muse to believe, from
the information of an Hai. Friend of his, not then in
his place, who had a correspondence with the Maroons
( we believe his Lordship alluded to General Walpole),
that the Maroons were very well satisfied with their
situation in Sierra Leone. He should at any time
have supported the Motion, but he would be pail-
. culm-ly desirous of doing so after tlfi: late determi-
nation of the House to 1001ifh the Slave 'fade, which
he hoped to see speedily accomplished. Ile was ex-
tremely glad to heAr the Right lion. Genhertan say
he hoped and swished this settlement might be ex-
tended, and he should, therefore, vote for the pro-
position.
Mr. PATTF.SON said, that from the evidence he
heard before the Committee, he was convinced the
settlement could never answer, and was, therefore.:
averse from voting the rildie money to support it.
Mr. WILBERYORCS 17,tied in fav nu. of the
Motion, on the score of huma-ity, as well as policy.
He said the natives were willing to wok for daily
or weekly pay, and that niany hundreds had
been made indJstrious and useful members of socie-
ty. He also observed, that when hostilities in the
colony had obliged those who were so employed by
the Company to retire into the interior. they had
willingly and unsolii ited returned to work as soon as
hostilities ceased. With respect to the Maroons, if
they had not been removed thither, they must have
been sent t. some other place, and the expense to
the country would have been at least the same, if
net more. The peat object. he conceived, how-
ever, reto be the civilisation and improvement of
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Mr. FRANCIS gave the Sierra Leone Company
avaxeredit for their excellent intentions, but was
earprued they should attempt to persist, after so
away yews experience, that they could not make the
eettlenseeit answer as a commercial concern. He
ambled much whether, front such people as we were
libety to carry there, the morals of the natives will
be oonsislerably improved. He rather feared, that
ear eadeavears to settle there would be the means
carrybsgismong them blooddied and desolation.
Mr. H. THORN MN explained, in the course
deb be said, he thought parliament was is
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to grant this support an degree AVE. L M of the EXCHEQU R
"nisi lot consider the House as pledged to
further than the grant of the present
might perhaps become a permanent vote,
IFdepend on circumstances.
JLLER said that when the Company
purchase of the Settlements, the King of

Ivy was made drunk.
ILBIS/tFORCE denied that to be the fall.
question was then put and carried without a
though the Gallery was cleared for a few

.tgers being re-admitted, the Committee
voting various resolutions of sums to be
' for Miscellaneous Services—such as Law
—Bow-street Police—Conviaioo of Felons
Stationary of the two Houses of Parliament.
After wi.ich the report was orJeied to be

.o-narrow.
House then resolved itself into a Committee

WAYS AND MEANS
CHANCELLOR of the EXCIiEQUER
that the sum of 11,501)0001. granted by the
tee of Supply, be raised by Loans on Ea-
Bills
Oriered.
!OSTER mom', that dna o 600,0001.
!rreney, vented ta!t....,uinii..ee of Surpl),
'in TrrUnd, by Exchequer Bills. Ordercd.
,wolfed, that toy yds raising the Supply,
\ add be a Stamp I)uty of 3s. on e:ery
Bank Note, from 2,21. to 1001.
Game CtilifiCAteS; Is. 1.1. on all &Lei,
Ming Patent or Quack Siedicires; and 11.
on warehousing hume.rnade Spirits *LI
The Report was ordered to be received

.eport co the Scotch Malt Duty Bill was

brought up; and, on tbesnuestioa of Mr. Pitt, de-
ferred IA next Session.
. The Lottery Bill was read a first, and ordered to
be read a second time to-morrow.
The Irish Additional Force Bill, and the Irish
Malt Bill, were yea i a third time and passed.
The Civil Lest Rill, and the Irish Small Notes
Bill, were severally cultunitted, and the Reports
ordered to be received to•morrow.

The Lnndon Docks Bill was read a second time,
and ordered to be committed on Thursday, and to
be primed.
The Irish Office Commissioners Bill was read a
second time, and ordered to be committed to.
ITIOTTOW.

Toe House resolved itself into a COmmittee of the
whole House, to consider the propriety of giving
leave to bring in a Bill to authorise the warehousing
of home-made spirits in Ireland.

Mr. HUTCHINSON thought the measure
would be injurious to the Irish distilleries, and wished
that time should he given to consider of it.
Mr. FOSTER said a few words ; after which the
Chairman was ordered to move tor leave to bting in
the Bill. Leave given ; and Mr. Foster. Mr.
Alexander. and others. ordered to prefccre the same.
The report of the Hackney Coach Rill was re-
ceived, the amendments agrred to, and the Bill
ordered to he read the third time to-morrow. _ _

Mr. JOHNSON, front the Chief Secretary of Ire-
land's Office, presented an account of the balances
in the Receiver General's hands, and Postmaster's
hands with various other financial accounts; laid
on the Table.

The Report on the Bill for making Scarborough
in the island of Jamaica a free port was received,
the amendments agreed to, and the Bill ordered to
be re id the third time to-morrow.

The - -
l Report on the Irish Counties' Peace Bill was
received, the amendments agreed to. and the Bill
ordered to be read the third time to-marrow.

Adjourned to to-morrow.

CORRESPONDENCE BETWEEN MR. MERE AND
THE PRINCE OF PLACE.

PROM THE MONITEUR, N.. 184.
MADRID, MARCH 10.

M. Trere, the English Minister at this place, seems to be
much *flatted by the news which have arrived from Paris. A
few days before he forgot himself so far, as to assert, us a con-
versation which he had with the Prone of Peace, that awls-
satiation and murder are lariat in the present state of things to
save England hose the extraordinary situatioo in which it is
placed. The Prince of Prat bluntly replied soo" But, Si',
shotsid Treece adept the same principle, nations would carry
on war hy the medium nf ameselnsi instead of Arad's' with fleets
and mantes. 1 ostinot hels deciating out this morality would
excite lionpt in the mini of Ho Catabolic Majesty. For my
part, I can Indy tell you, that the example of all are roves,
that enure in the end always fall on the headset those who or-
der. or are the instruments of them."
Note by, the Vilma .4 the Meedlow.—oThe *serration of
the Prince of Peace bee been verified; sad at the moment whew
to ...13.14 was civic,' tug the Count d' Artois as so assassiss, awe
6:lRa ioshmetera4 is family perished seen atonement (or the
crime tutil•t the mooed of re** lassoes 0-afoosat &shop of
Arms, such is the meeker your Moues*:
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Toga, Excellency Les undoebtolly reel the eenvosatien
localised to us b., the French 011elel Cmesteser, eronowsting the
late events fn PAL As I Ratter ceyolf that mop Celleagess,
anaLthe miligholased pbeuMss of Me corn, silo not be apt to
credal stories en r sad s• Mausolea* opposite to the
principl s which tliey.keem meta pads% might, perhaps,
have topped with amide— ca calismuy which mom reflect
upon lb mutton; and 'shouldmerely bare invited Y . E. to mi-
nime the smarmy of olfaif a coons proceeding horn the sane
*name, by this of which you mei it ease the jodgl'suid
And set, as it appienthatthe writer of the, ertscle preitimes to
rum: hi, statement no the testimony d T. E. It apneas to
me, that I should, in some anunier,,be osatoig ts my own pa--
ttlication, and to the reponoitation with which I act summated.

were 100 flcgleet apraling to that very testimony romolf de
sides, the glacial diammer of that accusation seems to demand
an equally formal and authentic cuotradiction.
These asosidsrations induce one to apply to T. E. and to re
quest that you will declare 'bonier any Nish COMOTISII.II deJ
really pas. between as, irrwhicli I asserted the principle input.
ed a me by theolliciel Gustav; and, shove all, as maintaiu,d
by hint before Os Paris news arrived; a short,whether Y E.
acknowledges the mime+ ascribed to yen, and which coneloilos
by a very attelligible threat of assassigatipa.
(Wetted) J. H. FRERL
. To H. E. the Prince of rime%
M %Dim, Aram ea 1804.
11.Roo• 'squally seen, that in the Madrid Arts-le, i .eseteJ Is
15a ihe of the Gamut, an account is given of a moven:mien
heroical lot, and I was said..., Sir, for your application, so
reinovc by my envier, the unfavourable opinessia yaw might
have foLned. —Bat as, in this kind of business, the fever of
probability entirety depends epos livelong', sad our conferences
have taken pl ice without either winnows ar Mares, and a. it
is imOmillie, theref Mum Cosy *wit have bean transmittal

to the Gasethal with mai teaceerecy, liens tivejustnicattoh
you require trim me p:rtettly weber, since it via be ,odd.
termt a, the Editor of lAA Garet/on, whether be publish aeon.
trary statement to-morrow, the ethos set upon those accounts
hems relative to the troth they e,ettain. Such hes been me
opiovin when I bate seen my .deetster Meekencd is still
darker c'nloto. • and he, wit.. shuuld tab-Avner to re.trem the
14..tiOnd od Me., alma tortnne hes pieced out et ha p.m.',
would tabula ao ether end thAn that et giving hireeelr a instant
ut.s.ums. (*pied) THE PRINCE OF PEACE.
Mr. Frere, Mseutter et EagLand.
MADRID APRIL 20, 1804.
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I have the lumina, to acknowledge the receipt 4 'outs*.
telleney's Mete I and you will .M, by the date ad this, thet 1
have well reflected, Leforil determined to awe w onplemaht
a subject : but, in truth, Gte longer I weigh the expression. in
your Excellency's N..te, the leas 1 Wed that they answer the
purpose for which it was Jsztated, namely, tomeame the nir
favourab'e optniont 1 might have firmed, • . -
Y. E. does me the Isomer to ulsie-te, that yog tepee-lei ins
to take such a step ; it was not, therefire, quite iilli-rtfu
itself. And .Used, IMP I wile to- make app:ication to Y E 1
du nee emboli it was possible im me to prefer a demartr mare
moderate, or how I cuu:d son desist frets it, without entails
ing, soma way or other, •tatisfa3ury answer. 1 am (ally
aware bow delicate and ridicule the present ctcurnitanees are;
hut, if Y. E.rld ode think it proper &Melly ti oppose the ugh.
c-al Gaaitteer's assertion, it would, at Itsm, have been mini-
ble, by mrippmg his statement of all authority, Sorbduce it to
that vague and cuojeeteral charactzr, watch riti yourself have
atte•bre to it ; fit this purpove, hothiag me., was required,
than that Y E. sheu!d mare me you never had Alt olged
pit:titulars of our emversationt ; since it a evident, that the
Ilatiteur aid out mean to cite furtive and clandestine wit,
ems., but the very penes of your Ftteclkmey. Y. E. might
lieeone have given a very plain and very natural test:Massey to
rat Car mr, namely, that the only time I spike with you upon
tbe sthtijet r, I expressed an opinion precisely the reverse of that
which the Liasettcer preteadtd N cite.
(Sig)
E. the r.ises of Peace, /sc. &c.

believing me capable of enlacing upon subject& tinsmith, of the
greatness Ghoul which adamants. Ido wit complain of Ins
ofancos and yin cannot calm the perturbation of sour mitatat
being implicated in it. He* shall Ihe able to peraisade you'
I have nothing to ail 4 to the reflections contained iu my pre-
ceding Note; may this answer to 'ours of the 10th prom more
satisfactory, and let !ague opininwicirculate in whir:lie I
(Stand) THF. PRINCE OE PEACE.
John Houkhani *,ere, Esq. Nimbler 411. R M.
MADRID, APRIL 17, 1 SOL

SIR,

It had appeared to me, that my personal honoytr, as well as
my SoMmigies, in fine, that the value I ought so set upon the
good opinion of the Spanish nation, equally inyelled ins to
take the step I have trivtaids your Excellmsey t and, thorigh that
greatness of soul Y E. has so just a title ter (idiot, had leavened
the importance of these considerations in your eyes, I should
still have Littered myself, twat you would .hew 1,1r11:: indolg•
c.c.s for the weakness of these, who, on being conscious of
those distinguished qualities which raise people above minims!,
think, that there are instances in which a man, without hems
wanting to his owu dignity, is Called upon to 'hew soruz
spect for public opinion But, dour notions up .0 the subirs.t
be greatly different, the situation we are in i• no leis an. Oa
my part, I ant charged with having maintained all atrocious
principle, while they put in the mouth of Y. F. sc:ttiments
worthy of your characte:, and such asall who arc not strangers
to your loyalty must know that yon yourself could have wished
to have trad ascribed to you, had I been capable of holding the
language attributed to me.
I cannot, therefore, moceal„ that in the denial of F. F. to
disavo* that coovenation, 1 look in lain fig that greatnes of
s sul which you invite use to imitate, when silence on our part
costs you nothing but the sacrifice of my repetition, inasmuch,
at least, as it depends upon your suffrage
Seeing myself deprived of this advantage, there still remains
fur rue the satisfaction to think that I can desist from further
import. • gY. E. upon the subjxt, and that lam able mawait,
without that perturbation of mind you ascribe to me, the deci-
sion of the public, the opinion of my colleagues, and that of
the • nliglitened persons in this court. They have hitherto been
pretty decidedly in my favour, and 1 flatter myself they sill
' prove sufficient to potect me, not only against the aspersions of
Vie Gazetteer, but likewise against the conjectures which may
be built upon the silence of Y. E. (Signed) J. H, FRERF..
To H. E. the P.ince of Fusee.

MADRID, •Pitt. 19, 1804.

!cannot avoid returning an answer to your Note of the 17th
hut. as, although its contents do not vary from the (urine, one
concerning the opinions entertained in France upon your cha-
racter, and mine, I see that you toucheither points of greater im-
port ince, inch as the dignity at your Bovereign, and the public
*pinion. This question is too winos, and ought net, there.
fore, to be blended with Oriente interests. 1 will never believe
that the King of England tins hi Ministers directions deroga-
tory from his majesty and dignity; 1 respect his high rank as
should, and will not esteenSir,to your ask* amend Minxes
ef what is merely *falai; you know, Sir, Ilea whenever you
hem called to sionweve with me, I have anesretd, ;hat political
affairs were not winds my province, and that the Ling me ems-
Li had he secretary of state, through whose sadism the do.
mends of (.uric., n. t transmitted to Ms. To
the ive e• a....d,0rs and ministers I made the Name observe-
ho • ea tnat I have received their sisits as mere acts of good-
Ws. and 'civility from them. Under such clreesseenees, ewe-
fore, cruses ought not to be confounded with subsequent avenue
nor ought whit depends open the private conduct Of *objects,
to be imputed eo the Idles of the government. My sincerity
has mare than once prompted me to caution you, S: that loose
islavidulls about lob could do you neither honor nor credit,
-since, their reputation being blasted in other courts, no great
opinion could be entertained of their morals in this. And de
youptinsw,Si r,hliether of oat these people may be:the authonof
the store publlehed by the Paris Gazetteer! I hat.: likewise
mentioned several other things to you ; and it was perhaps ow-
ing to my advises, that yoisamided their conesqueueee as, for
itletanee, General Bournonvilee affair, when you wanted to
make yourself master of his papers. Let your Excellency call
to mind rev former conduct, and entertain a proper regard for
the sincerity you have experienced from sour affectionate ser•
vent, (Signed) TIIF. PRINCE OF PEACE.
If yen asses Sit, 1 will giro an account of what has taken
Cthe Klieg my Mover, that it may be forwarded to tt.e
so
etera of H. N. M. through the chaauel of his Ashamed, r
in London i and your Excellency may, from the moderation
and mans ef my Note, for an ales cat high rest I beer
H. IL M. sines, if it were not Oar this just eonissition,
shoed not have answered your last Nuts.
I. ilooklisro ?rare, liaq. Minister of H. 8. M.
MADRID, APRIL 20, 1804.
I Yesterday received the Note of Y. E. which !Reverted with
all the attention it merits. There is a very plain emisideration
*Welt directly occurs to one's mind, namely that Y. E. mint
o havelpenrd veurrelf the unpl..asaat task of continAng a painful
asevespeodeMee. Y. E. does me the honour to tell me, that,
beieg no Minister, your correspondence cannot he drawn to any
pnlits al consequence ; and yet you propose to transmit it to
Cie Moonier of I-1 s Catholic Ma;esty in Lond in, for the pur-
e... of stewing your respect for His lictsuanie Majesty—Y. E.
sins, that, er-thistit such samise, you would not have thought
youreif booed te answer my Note. Upon this I must observe,
that e,apressiens of personal respect front a ;invite ineis dual
ilea Sovereign, do not appear to new be customary; and that,
viewing the Note of TE. in this iteit,l 'eed rant under-
tabs to Ise it onlcialle before His Majesty. And yet, as it con.
tams certain allusions to my conslua, I thoutnt it my duty to
transmit it to the Secretary id State of ll.s Britannic Majesty
with proper explanations. If 1 return no direct answer to Y. E.
concerning those allusims, it is because I think them foreign
from the subject upon which la • began to correspond, and mfrs -
Imes without an oteect, since Y. E. has declared that you won si
sot be looked upon as a Minister. Moreover, mitiods g
preinit e hen the esseivenations in qui:aim took p'ace, thc d...
mission would prove cake, and 5, of uo other use than that of
presenting to the public the indecent spectacle of two pzricni,
each of whom Ise-- some claim to their respect, mutually con-
tradicting oat another in the face of the whole woild.
i Signed) .1. H. FRERE.
To H. E. the Prince Peace.

•PIIIIL !3, 1834.

I passed: myself that Y. will net be *byline-xi at tie
e.ur+• I take, and which us, in my the o ly rations!
one. Since I aeoisted,in my flown( Co- 17th, from the dement
of a disavows!, oar correspondence c),i1,1 iw la.iget have

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Flrima the moaseur that Y. E. doclared, slut you
11,4 be considered as • Minister,) because semiable, that fu the'
discussions would only produce a peassual alter Cation. TOO
was the gautise why I aroolci ilisconing VatiOUl &Milli/ con.
tamed io the Lot Note of Y. and it it also the nu.tire
ingiiences me at present When Y. E. has takm out., Cligei-
&ration the situation yuo place me ail by stripping Mr as wel
ywurgelf in our Sliuketial characters, I am convinced you
will um ascribe to o waut of regard, that which So, m reality,
the result of the than oerents retlecnou.

1/4Sintd)
?oft. E. me Prance et Puce.

J. H. FRERE.

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