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statement of their inzome. Now these taLts foituA
a perfect justification of the Measures taken on the
subject by the House. There were very few pages in
the Report which did not contain observations on
ithus.s by schoolmasters or trustees, or defects no
eunie way or other in the machinery of the founda-
tions inquired tido. It appeared, that near lout thon-
sand a 3 car would be added to the funds of one of the
&chords reported on. These fonds, amounting to
lour thoustiod pounds atitivally, bad been in the
hands of a eert sin company, who were the trustees,
since the reign of nue of the Edwards. out of
which they had been accoistomed to allow but four
hundred a year to support the school, nod con-
tended that the remainder was their own right.
The Report stated different nowtoosees of bowel',
ant incomes, doomed to atf,ird the meant;
of eleemosynary instruction, eijoyed by school-
masters solely employed in receiving pupils fur

the former year. Flora. 'the previous speech of the
Hon. and Learned Gentlemen, which principally
related to the condition of the lower °Meta to the
metropolis, and from the order o Teri f rrence, it
might have been supposed that the Committee was
confined in its labours to exatnihinginto the state
of education 9[lllolig the poorer ranks ni the me-
tropolis. The corder of reference war to inquire
into the education of tile lower (111(leit4 w the metro-
polio, and the slate of children begging in the
streets, or carried about, without tieing *rut to-the
schools estuhlislied for the instruction of psupera.
Now, he raid, that those who appointed that
Committee, never hull understood it wus to Imo re
into the finals of the great scholastic iostitutiine+ of
the country ; lie aid they had newer imagined that•
its Chairmen lied a right to sunitiam the Masters
of Etou and IVestmilister.—(llcar.)—lr was int
porrible .'.
to suppose that the &logo of naming the
-.for the purpose of inquiring into the

'soled with the 'Parliament, wan 0;11 e
one month after that Parliament had been ilissolied.
He kk it right to observe on this lettei, !itemise
whilst they arrissadverted on the conduct and too-
reedings of others, they shouf:, re ani:ioits to
verve the regularity ,of their own. Ti4E letter
of the Honourable Gentleromi ISIr. liiingii.rtn)
proceeded lierli:lps from insilvertetice, nod
lie oliserved on It to prtYeltl. a Sl9lllilr ;
it stated., that to render 44161411 Ce latie In'
'luny Inlaying —" meaning, I prescine," sui,l
Mr. Peel, " carrying on by l'arliames,t, for if it
meant the proverslonts carrying out by commission,
the Ilan. Guillettisiot should not eolootter ins ser-
'deer to that Own wetit oil to
say, that the inquiry was retpecti.-,t the etkucrition
of the children in the Sunday 'drools. 'Cts:i tater
wit* t•erit from the Howie or 00000
franked, in a Wise whet) uo Co:oinotee was In ex-
istence. Those proceedingv, he eilii:d rot lint dunk,
.d t rr, arid

_ . , ... . . .
their own profit, without teaching arty of that Committee was ,
.
were ire •goiter, were calculated to lead to tiler, -
description of persons which they were required to verde and circumatances of the great public reltools.
do by the terms of the foundation. Arid he was But why lied not notice beget taken of thus cir- to rvlablisli a precedent %%Inch aliould he &scowler-
cure of those who moat cordially tiers-eel that if the cumstelice in the year 1816 or 1818 ? lie noticed. The Hoge Gentleman might excuse himself
Coininie•ioners should do nothing, more then they thougra he could offer a aatisfactiny reason. fgr esceeding the ,users intrusted to itint. In a
had done. they lied already made an abundant It so happened that in both of these years the letter, publicly addrested to a learned and lament-
return and compensotion to the public for all the Reports of the Committees, one of which had car. *el (need of 111,, the late Sir Samuel Rmaly. he
expenses incurred. Ife turd next to proceed to the rued 011 all examination into Weatininoter and, (li
re
tit) aim a late it
valai h the HoneGen-
paritfol task of .toting his objections to the preserit the Cloirirr-hmise, and the other had oninnioneti. ticiiiiol kill takent (atria In himself for his forlwar-
measure. They lay against that part of it which D. Wito.e of Cambridge, before it-had trot been' oil, C. The Hon. Gentleman had stated, that lie
exempt,- ll' on the itleects of the inorutry charities priiit..il till after Parltaineist hail been proroeued rshised to Itniii,h trulenee taken hetree the Coon-
having se!cial visitors. Wiile tit rely mg that vietors in te • one cow, and rlibrolve.l iti the other.-- noire rise emitg a school, theugli that Werra!
had been to any degree guilty—without saying that (I.lrar.)-; le sit. old nut have thought of mention-' nitleated ageing his succor,. at the W'rettniortlarid
t'e c had copuived at atfusts—wehout sayint; that. iiig :tic fart he vai 110 a, shout to do, wrrr it not for election. lie (elr. Berl) felt alarmed at this
they bed bed any prrcoual 'torrent involved ---..r.tt was the frequent chit.. es greatest lute side of the House clitrationi ;he could not ore on ulna printeple the
of 'and te .t abuses hest ex.••ed in the 1119.4011 re a arrow.? of th, coisstruction of Cointritters.— (lord. Grill!. luau could take credii for that conduct,
sitleseted ti: the visitation. t;: it atone was a so'f.- • ' r'ol'e'' ~reilit hid been taken in erriut.. pillilica. .
,lute
fit; CiAltiarereni:ntit,lvas los solemn mid imperative
ficient re isen for si iirliiig these special Commis- toms i. r the constitution of the last Committee, entail not but look it
it
stoners to extrinine into the managernent•of adds - which had inquired into the Umveraitira sod great • ace IWrlllll offence to allow mere. fur private use
glares.—eelear.)....But he comforted 0.,. tin the ',chords. How torn had it beeti comilitunei? Perhaps to that evidence, and to those proceedings, width
construction put on the Act of last Sesmiei by the the Hetier would pin Meru him while Ite read their were taken Inn piddle prarposes alone; he• did nut
Commissionerithemaelves, there was a gross therm• tiler*, which 1w should do animist impritiug the sce why the In Gentlemen should take credit for
atstency in the eon tong in the present Act charities.
cud est charge figui.:•.; •..,t of them. Ile had di- erfromig that access for private pui'poseas-to yield
specially visited ; for they bad interred that they gt vii them etto three loos :—the indiviewils who to bath 1111 appliratiess for private purposes *mild
were riot precluded from carrying ineuiry Oita I, were generally de1:01111a,1101 intletiendritt...-tloor be wrong—to yield to it ter electieneeriug pur.
such foundations, wherein the visitors trees' ,1 who 'totally took the ',sine views of polities with poses. would be no enroll breach of duty, arill.could
'also trusters. Now, the only reason fur exclutlseg 1 the I le'.. arei Learned G-.usenet—and titter whose r not but cresne 1110 ft I.ertolo. alarms. He was there
charities specially visi•ed, weta a tenderness to re ii •iiiis tett .11y c miciderl with Adi tttt urn-atone sorry to liter the thee Gentleman taking credit for .
4.1. ose the snipposed will of the foundi•r, where Those iiir the hoe were— . fie !teamster, for merely feetisig according to his duly
he particularly designated the Persons whom he Mr- Haielay, Sir T. Adrtiril, Mr. Wi'lierfa.cr, Mr. B. —for had he gtilei access to the evidence for any pi s-
wished to be intrusted with the suprriniendeviee of •; trineteu"-!.Uric ,".• a fired tonne Cr were linable iii ticsr.i . vale eurpota a, be would, but more particularly for
Oil Ow second were Iowa!, got rig Ore 17 missies of
the charity, but where lir lord given a dmible 1 srleetuniterstig purposes. He eischerged, he said,
murk of confidence, by declaring, diet the saint which it 4.""5i4". 'lle 1"11"°tHe Ills duty our this otTs•luii with great reluctance, but
Mr. J. &milt %Ir. 11. Smythe, M. lAmb, Mr. [['saes the might be tire wily. time that be would have an
person who was to act us seeder should besotter dive
Mr. Er.tinots., lire Marries . mil TrlVlolo.k, Mr. Atwirroughr'
charge the iniportaut duties of a trustee, there hie j ge, J. mstk,,,,,h. 11,.. Dr' ~,,0,.,,,,,, Sri S. itim,illy, Sir IL: oppOrlHuily or oloittilog oil those proceedings, and
will was tieglected.—(Near, henr.)—But it wee, j Fereasoa Sur IL l'cliell, Sir F. Burdett. he did nnt wish to let them pass inmetjeed. He
in truth, contrary to the intention of the donor to 1 Jr.N iillOU GU %Al uhj. c.. 41 lii stns politicid die- thought mail of throw proctenthige were improper;
subject any charities to tlw investigetion of Come j clavier' on phi coeillict el 17 neintiilitela,
he thought they would form bad preeedents—pree
missioners, which yet had been done by the Act of I After n few word. between Mr. ['EEL. end Mr. eedents incuovenient and -dentgerout ;he would
Elisabeth, mid the Act of last Session; becrese I BROUGHAM, the former Right Hon. Geutleman not let this opeortosiily yetis without enterieg his
even where he had pot appointed visitora, he nu- : proceeded :—lle wes aware that the itirlieirluals kg protest against autos
ii
tlwins to:afford an opportu-
derstime that the 6,11;hli00 was to be perfernittl .. inetiliatred were nil the grr••1141.1 rerpertalBllly, mod 11.10 Y of correcting the iio,d,crteocy. if inadvertency
by his own heir. 'lire Bill took away the necessity : all he wished the !louse to do, was lit contrast thee, it W:o‘.
.li* the 'poi& in general acting in the odious , number with the few trusty twit pitched ujeet nu e Mr. BROUGHAM Mild, that after the speech of the
cluteicter of informers and accusers tie-trust such ; the other side for Blear romantic attaeloneet to the , Rigel Hon. Gentlerneu, the (louse, he . was sure.
abuses.—elleue.)—The exception of elt.orittus ape- 1 Universiiira—to those venerable Neste, where, in ; retold extent': their iodulgenee. to him. fee was
really visited had been copied from the Act or Eli- 1 early life, they had fed their genius on tie. bettetwa : eurldenly called on to defeed Ilia iudiveltial chanter
zehellt, but the reason for heath% them nut there • of cht•sslc tore. Who erre the 'lotion aelsegee ter amid that or his collegigues, whose confidence he
altogether failed here—becituse that not only re- ' from the Roman C 4 op In defend the Umeersitieo ? I haul enjoyrd feign the first- it iy he -at as Ciminero,
teirded to inquiry and itivestigations 'lke the pre- Altlerinagi Atkins. Sir James Show, mid Sir Wm. I 'of elle Committee to the bast day of reporting their
sent Bill, but also to what the latter del not, mak- Curlia.—Peeperned peals of laugliter.)—Thie "lee 1 lut'Ue-eorturi.--(lieor, hear.)—At a moment, when
hog order', ditections, and dere eea. He bad but the select bend ill three wimiginted ro fight the 1 the hulk of Ili ti Committee were absent, he etas
nue word more to say. Ile meant to propose en . bottle ogainot their more nonteroua °Noniron.. i coiled on to answer the premeditated haisugue of
amendment, for the purpose of omitting that Mr. littoueueet asked, whetter airy ritlites had ; the Right limi. Gentlemezi—f Loud chrers)-
1 surrounded as he was by 31:use %%loon he doubted
clause excluding from the objects of the itivestien. not been eubsequently eppeitited ?
lion charitable foundations specially visited. About Mr. PELL allowed that there hard been subsequent i nut es re Aware of .the charges floes lgrouglit agsiiet '
two thoosaial charities in Ertgland and Wales would aPponements from lime to time. for the purpnee ad , linen—he could unt but laineet the abseece a
be excepted, me the Billestoode and amorie, them eetentling the inquiry to Scotland. The Right I most oh tine Committee, and he cooed tint bur lava
those chiefly &founding inquiry. Elien should the Ham Gentlemen their committed with seventy on lOw candour or the (eight Hon. Gentleman who
1
amendment he
tineareed to, rill all schools under the a clause in the Mil brought in in the Stamm, ol 1818, 14,..•1 broireht forward chargee, Where the accuse
jurisdiction of Universities, St. Nu West. before Nagy detailed Rg port lord been made by the ed. 'into he convieted without a defence. He
minster, Venn. Regby, and a fete other large Committee, protinistig that if any verso:is thin- i beard •lr of the irregularity of the Committee;
school', kesith-s those. attached to Cathedial imemed to appear before the Commissioners attune! i ire (11r. Broilehom) acted a prominent part ni that
Churcht th, would tetnoill Protected from the opera- wilfully omit ta introduce any deed or instrouirtit, re.. Vemmitteeond the House witted perdirti him for tree-
nail of the Act. lathe; ii, ,he whole or in port, to the a.t.tte of efface- .1 passieg all I.ltelll a second time. Ile could riot suf-
' Mr. Peer; relltir he saw 4° many Gentlemen time that then the two Cummissiosiers, with the Srereo .1
Hull. admire the tithe:tie feelnegs of the Right
around him limb better qualified than himself to tory, shuuld lathe their warrinits for Inking up such' ' .Nlentiwr, the love of order, land the teenee of
which freemen! to sway his mind. Front
enter into the in:erise of the question immediately peraonv, mid Irons time to time continieteg them to regidenty
before the House, that he should be very brief ie prison. there to remain, without bail or inetiernze. , whet had taken place, he (Jar Brougham) would
his remarks on it. He should oi•le obeerte, teat Could the House conceive any exercise of ;sneer ; move, liefore he rat &an, `He art amendment, that
the reasons on which the Hon. mid Learited Gen- wire retraoirlitjary thai, that coot initiated by thee . the fervor,* of the ConstUittre of Education in
demur's objections to the measure were founded, clause ? ; the last Session of Parliament should be re-
dial tint *cent to him to be perfectly conclusive. Mr. rem. then ermined the condttet of the teferred 10 it Committee of the lionise. lie kit
His urgtiment was, that arriallY Visited charities C tttt i mitire towards the Vicrelehaticellor of Se I Ins soireition as irliiinst unexamoled ; he was
should be included within the objects of the Act. John's C"lleeer and the prildicatien . f the Eton called on without notice, without previous pre-
because other charities were, between which mud statutes (winch the Governer" of the le tired were • luir4lloll or relisetion, to answer a premeditated
the former lie saw no essential diffeenece. lb• ton- prevented bum prilitioliitig. by their with.), from a ' charge; but he must attempt it. He knew how he
of the same in the Betide Museum. appearing I would beerrOted if he dal not. It would he said
leaved he perceived the distinction—(Near./—The - c"liY
Learned Gentler- had asked, why sub. from tire evideiter of ler. Goodall to loose been lir- , that the observations of the Right Hon. Gentleman
'blushed were too fellow' that he cut too near the bone-

Hon. and , Aentleinan . . _ „, - _
jest those foundations where the heir or the founder
had the superintending power by law to the "11111
nation of the Columissiiiiirrs, while you exempted
those where it was lodged in 111)16111 1/ISll4lr and
strangers? Not to insist on thereat dtlfereme which
in his conception existed between the 1%0 C4H'S.
he really doubted (meaning to speak with all de-
ference for the superior legal informatics' cf
the Honourable and Learned Gentlemen') whether
the heir possessed at law the right attributed to
him ; he imagined that it was vested in the Court
of Chancery. There was a reason for. excepting
charities with spesial visitors which did not exist in
other cares, which was, that the fotioders had
placed a confidence in them, arid' there was no
reason In call in question the punt• of their con-
dect, tillan abuse of their powers had, been proved.
'lle did, not place much weight on arguments ex
awalogia, and the reasonings of the Him. mid
Learned GentlenteOr drawn from incotisistency,
might he' pressed much further. he now felt
obliged to trespass on the indulgence of •the
Mouse... while lie made a few observations on the
conduct of the Committees Whose Reports bad
;led to the messore before the House. He had
hoped, but iii vain, to have enjoyed te litter
;opportunity for doing so; but as he thought
.that these Committees had both exceeded the
powers committed to, them by Parliament, and
where they hail kept within the line of th.tin,
had exercised them improperly, lie should be sorry
such' a circumstance should p,155 altogether untol-
d deed in the House of Commons. It was not to be
►f supposed that lie undervalued the advantage of
a these Committees. lint it was because lie did not
n ' wish to see prejudices raised against them from an
re immoderate use of their great powers, that he was
a( now anxious to protest against an undue exercise of
ii them. Ile alluded to the two Committees elf 18 lti
a sod 18 la. The first had been appointed under the
tt auspices of the Hon. mud Learned ClelllllllUall 111

complete. lint if the statutes were to bit
ail, they should have been printed simple, lin-
Air mil, and unillustrated ; wlwreas 'turreted tortes
bad been added to the Latin text, which gave
any 1111114 lint a fair idea of it. The Right !lo-
wan:l6le Gentleman censured the publication
ul. si:rtutte ; but. at ill events, If it were
found necessary to publish them to the world, they
might have been puhltshed without mergimil mum-
taliona. The Right Holt. Geritletiiiin next called
the :rat oit• of the llonse to :he Cdiowing etre um-
sturice:-011 the (Ott, of June, in leis. the P.,r-
batmen% was tlissolved—siad the Con 4444 itter„ he
said, unit all proceedings under it. were thrietare
at an end, ytt lie Oro held it hits hand a letter,
sigurd by tine cleik of the Committee, which was
dated die 10th cif July, our runts mouth slier !be
dissolution of Pathan:rut ; tine letter we, direct-
ed to ail ofrictatnig clergyiiii, in with the mitside
mark of the lloirt or our month after
that Goose had ceased to exist.—( bcdr j
Atwitter letter he also held (It Ins hand, dated the
13th of April, 1f419. signed Henry Brougham,
Chaitlllllll, (T 111814113., some very proper
questions. The first letter, taken to itself, wits
pethaps a vest important one, but it was neces-
sary to comment on it, for the litlflloSe, if it IPIO.
cettled Iran mistake, of giving ati opportunity of
explanation ; and if it did nut proceed from snits-
take, for the purpose of preventing the ricurretice
of a proceeding which lie could trot but think
would lead to establish r very datigerouo preceded.
The Might Hots. Gentleman thew piticeeded to
read the letter stgind by the Clerk ef the Corn.
mitten. It stated that the Committee lied address-
ed circular letters to till clergymen, requesting
certain and that nut having seceived airy
answer, lie hoped his returns rrerriold be sunrise-
diately furnislatl, ils he (the Clerk) old nut wish to
report Its name to the CottiMittrv. Now this letter
intiunated that tilt Cutnuatitte, which was dm.

that his were no loose insinuations—that his sea
no college declamation—that be was. • wan of
business, who gave chapter and verse for what he
said—that lie read names arid dates—and that if his
charges were kit unanswered, it ass because they
were unanswerable. It would be held that the
abeeoce of the greater part of the Committee
fit noshed sin apology fur delay, that lie was hiro.elf
present, and should require on notice for that whirl
be Should be at all times prepared to alarm!. his
past conduct, no matter.. in what manner it was
ritiettiotirel—no matter how soddenly the charges
might have b.ru brought against him. Fr.pared os
they were with all the care of previous retier.tioa,
and smellaig as they dill of the midnight oil.
Ile (Mr. II.) could not however help ;looking, that
those charges, if matte at all, would have (Arnie
from the Speaker With more propriety mid almost
with as mod) force.—/Loud cheering.)—Celltie-
Olen were nose called no to decide against the Re-
volt of the Committee, Nod against hits (
condoci, 11 rid if he should I of satiefy them
that the"C •ttee that he ass riot,
and that the Right Hun. Gentleman was wrong—
(Near, henr,)—if he shotild not succeed to proving
that the Right 1100. Gentleman was utterly wrong
in the charges lie made. lie e:uul.l cousent to endure
noir sentence as the Bight Hon. Gent. shoal(' think
fit to pass on his conduct and that of the C•nomittee,
and no doubt, in the opinion of the Right (lon.
Gentleman, his ow a censure would be a punish.
went, heavy as their demerits, great arid enormous
as those demerits mightbe.—/Near, hear.)—The
first observatioo of the Itig,lit lion. Gentleman was
cr.-bandy a isms, exirtiordontry digression on the
thud trading
,of a bill, wliach lie said, indeed, was
of little coustquence in the diactisaion of the ques-
tion—but he took 1111 him to argue iii a legal way,
and lie (Mr. Brougham) must say, tbrit lie utterly
and entirely onsunderstood the force of his urgument.