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DISTILLERIES OF IRELAND.

On the motion of Mr. Posies, the House went
into a Coustnittee ou the Irish Distillery Act.
Mr. Fornit said, he would shortly state to the
Committee, the. object he bad in vie.. Every
Gentleman, who was acquainted with the state of
'reb ind. knew that the increase of illicit distillation
had become prodigiously great, ever siute the pro-
hibition of the distillate's from grain. Indeed he
imputed the alarming increese principally to that
11 measure, as farmers encouraged the illicit trade,
in order to procure • market for the it produce. So
greatly had this private distilling trenched upon
the lawful trade, that, in 1807. the quantity of •
spirits distilled by the open distilleries, was six 1
millions of gallons, and the revenue 1,170,000 l.;
while, in the last year, it hail scarcely hi eu so much
as one-fourth of that quantity. The inference that
he drew Irons this was, that the vacua., or inter-
mediate quantity, between 1807 cud 1809, was
supplied by the illicit diminution. It was there-'
fore, necessary to look fur remedy to a radical
change iu the system of Irish revenue, in so far
us it was connected with the distilleries.—When
he tame into office, he found the system on
which be had since acted in full force. It was
on it wise principle, and went to encoutuge large
stills as the means of inducing parties possessed of
extensive capitals to enter into the trade. However
good the principle might be, yet it hail failed it. Ire-
land, and time illicit traffic wes carried on by small
stills to ■n almost incredible pitch. His first ob-
ject, with a view to surmount this evil, would there-
fore he to promote the dispersion of legal small
stills, all over the country. He did not mean to
discourage the large mills. but merely to give
equal chance to the small ones, by diecutitinuing
the bounties to the former. This had pertly hero
done in 1806, and the reduciiiiit that then took
place might family be considered, by the great dim il-
lers, as the notice to which they were entitled, after
embarking in a speculation ra► the authority of Go-
vernment. of a dispositiou, ow the part of that
Government, to pursue 'mother system. His se-
coud object would be to do away the apprehension
that existed in the minds of thee. reedy to com-
mence distillation on n limited plan, that they
would be compelled to work qt. in a 'limited time.
In this point, limitations similar to tht so uhich ex-
isted us Scotland, would be adopted, and stills
would lee averaged at 1.50 gallons, unless their
capacity exceeded that quantity. lie acknowledg-
ed that there were some grounds for the complaints
of the Irish Distiler on the fluctuation of the Re-
venue Laws, amid would endeavour to obviate simi-
lar complaints, in the system lie now proposed to
have adopted, by grusiting Licenses fur three years,
which would give stability to a speculation, instead
of fur use year, as hint hitherto been the pine-
nee. There wus another ['Oita which was de-
serving of all consideration, anti which he had been
induced to adopt, after the most minute investiga-
tion. it was, at once, to reduce the duties from
their present rate ss. lid. per gallon to 21. liti. dle
want satisfied that the Iteveoue would not suffer by
this; for. though, in the first year, there /eight be
a risk of a diminuti )))) , yet, whew the ilhc~t trade.
was dirotroy ed, which, lie cue convinced, would be
the tendency of this nie.aitre, the outs 1.:1141 to
Governineut by the legal duhller, w..uld much
more than cour.tethelanee the Leer rate of ditty.
Another of his object* would be to simplify the

1110,,e übo tin* enterel into the
tiou Its& could slot be raj:eche. to hs.
Ti e le,s cuth WWIIit ilt reVti
ue:e, it would he the mote sclt4nia,
would, thyrefore, elitiret), the .; e
tinctiosts and &MS-hill Ls on the (insist ty
iirifs, mid simple churl& the
I i r
the quantity distilled. Co avoid be
pemic of collectiug the revenue, he poi
hove the collectors uf hearth-rules sod
tuxes employed also its cunectihg this
revenue, without the nits-reunion fif 11:e •
Ili, object oiti to rubs si lii* I"%i,
uod ht. would ;Cattily listen to
erery vide of the Mouse, nitht-ut tintdsw,
or difference of lettings on other
fore inviled grieletattst to e•.ittinti:•:,
every idel, dint would tend to 1. n.!ei
sure generally *Delta. Bebe:Ate, tian,:l
situation it might he thought "so, n,„
soil object. By the proposed vt stem, Si.,
of the people also, which uer.• vo det nt,
by there illicit stal:s, would

the hews now contemned, %%wild,
forced, Income more resisectea.
of persons would be put dosti. It
thnse, who, without the engtliZNl. e
known to the Itlegistrate, k. pt
of spirits, illegally distilled, under sh
originated snarly of the tids which 1,3
much distressed Irrlnod. With Ouse 01,

be would move, Tilsit the liss.;t si :s
to usk from to 'sling iu st
laws In finet' r• %petting theeli-t !lotion
Sir J. Nt.'s post exprrsst I t,i 6,111,fi
turasnrr pe..1,,,,,51 by the Hight
unJ his teastis,e,s to co-opesute with I.
lay in hi. 'sou, r, iu curs) 111 e; It 111110
llCCOntrii 11,04 the prop,
went to do t. List be bud for the
pres,st-,1 upon thr euissith. ration of she

hurl ecer wis.loJ to impress upon them
of disper.ing titian over the cou;.l
had t.c.ce tickets the i.eirve of the Hon
quevtiuir of with.lrai%ing the bounties fr
stills. On oue or tvro ruiiits of rnioor
howei,er. be dillered front the Hight 11
man. He could uct impute the inc
illicit trade so much to the prohibit:lei
ticar front grab,. air it wa, known to p)
great extent before the pacing of th
Neither could he accord with the

surrey, PI urtessary or beneficial to
It gave rise to frauds ou the part of
and corrupt counivaoce on the pert of
(Merl.. Ifs view would be that, eel
best attentiou to the *object, he Issil
the best, namely, to adopt the syttern
that was, to charge a tertaio duty mono
portion to the cupacity of the still,
open to the trader by his exertions to
of it if he could. The Right Hon.
he had got quit of the extra expense

and the Clauier of fraud., &et .by tak
the Excise and eutrutting it to the
hear lb rates, anti amassed taxes but

%Weed this would uever answer. Evet
were not too well collected now, ain
another dut) to the Cull. ow*, the re
suffer *till wore. This wet the only.
of diflereoest between him acid thw Hy
*We Gentleman, owl this he hoped
come in the Committee. The uh!•eiti
the Right Hon. Gentleman lied antic
he had to offer, though he world mill
reNolutious he had, previourli• prriNai
ceived, and entered uu the Jowled*, n'
deliberate view of this imports/it e•

country, from which he bathe li, "Ulu
to that House.
Mr. releren noticed, that the Colic,
sassed Taxes, &c. were released 'ruin
their duty, during the six %later ii untl
distilleries were most employed, and
quently be enabled to *Revd to totem
convenience or lois to the revenue.

the system of surrey, in opi,ciainoti
cease; and trusted the presets' ima•ur,
unanimously supported by Irish
which would convince the prople of
it was for their good, and that ii
fully enforced. The charge from I

risen from 30s. to 31. 61.91. 181. 54'
1641. This was a pool' how moth

the license syztem. The lattrr !
rendered impossible by the U,,i(( u,
lowance of countervailing duti s how
■nd Ireland.corild never be carried into
it could not be ascertained what was
branch on the spirits of Ireland.
'Mr. licas.siroan wished in know if n
sation would be wade to the holders
consequence of the mho lon of
Mr. Fosita ►aid, it teas isupossild;
there would be an endless recurrence

wholesale dealer. and whoh•rule dcd
tee. He had idea locked fur piecedew

in the conainutatasiow of slit; tt

itemisation had bet it in.t,le to eir tielJe
Mr. tairprus..i or the 1,1
gerted ; but swet.l with Sir J. 1...1.
system of liceuse was webs...We to ti
Hr also contended for poiue alterawn
of the

Mr. FuSTER rebutted the argument
ter point.
Mr. C. IJ. 111;11:111!MN rema,kr.
►intion between Car sentiments of tl.l

nouroble Gentleman (Mr.
■ud the last, end aci used hini
the revenue:, enterprise, and tratir
by the veccillations of his
on him to make up his mini'. fol!y au
fine he introduced a system, clionit!
*lit to that which he i;a11, only ones•'

ell hurnself to support, at d thert:ty tt
perturia, on the faith of Gristl:l:.:l
large capitals in distil!erie, firm, I.
Ile noticed in particular the house ot
and Co. in Limerick, adttr.h find I
great speculations on the orength o ti
ment held out by the Right
then went into a vicar a the proi".•
and contended that large

tort.ol ono,. This wits pr..vr,l I I
di :4,11'60n in Englund, where lite:,
liege •nd illicit trade wu• t.to
furtlitr corrobortitcl by Sco‘liati,

small stills Was encouraged, and there with a
oreat proportiOn of illegal traffic catried on.—
concluded, by imputing the blame of the great
rt e of illicit trade in Ireland to Mr. Foster,
,„. „raem, as Chancellor of the Exchequer, and
ell ism bower, must have hero bad to p•-ritiit it.
If. D. lia (was spoke iu favour of the smaller
4, *lnch mould be universally beneficial to he.
I; though they might not answer the city which
lusiourabie t:entleman represented, (Cork).
free a few words from Mr. D. (tieter, the rcso-
mu was agreed to. The .House was resumed.
the Chairmasi of the Committer obtained leave
wing m u Hill to the effect stated by Mr. Foster.
Ir. tW11:11 gave notice that he would move, at
tune day, for it C 1111 l enure of the whole House.
insider on the propriety of lowering the duties
distd!crics in irslaud.
r. Rau gave notice that he would move that
louse resolve itself imo a Committee,
torus., to conintler the act which relates to the
nation of foreign linen.
ARWY ESTIMATES. '
tad P ALIIIEM%TON moved. That the House
resu!ve it:elf into a Committee of Supply
3•ldee farther of the Army Estimates."
MAtAlcu FITZOESALD expressed his salts-
a, that the Hight Hun. Gentleman' °Piro-
qr. lluskissusi) should becnine, as was ap-
t f,o,ii lion speech of last a convert to
sropositiou of retrenchment contended for by
San. Gentlemen behind him (NIT. Wardle) ;
se regretted that he should have represented
,ssiar• or the country as having reached their
Il • had no objection, under the present
tisun.c,lo of the country, that is great vitas
went should be maintained, provided that
lohment was efficient. He could not help
rit% a dOtinetion which Ministers drew,
the,. said, that though a great part of the
of the country was nut disposable, it was
Aciesit ; for his part he could not think any
(Seielt which was not dispoailile. It was par-
r!). imforiaut to consider that sitlect crow,
were to he nailed upon to-morrow to snake
:damn of 30,000 foreign troops. The total
it of our forte lie estimated at 340,835 men.
'umber of inen produced by regular recruit-
ssd by voluuteernig, in the year 1809, was
own ; but the losses in Spain and %%Ache-
in the count 411 last year, could not be less
20,000; they were 're • gat a rale which
it double their desertions, surf which did not
their losses. From this general view, lie coo-
1, that those punts of our force which were in.
cat on4ltt to be reduced, in order to strengthen
is were eft ient, and mashie the country to
.air the atrug.tle its which she was engaged.—
map.. •t to the Mans Feutibles, he thought
0 id prod?ced f,v their reducnon could be
cc they o.dy amounted to 347 men; the
tom of The ..avalry also to the extent proposed
I be useless ; if they wsmlti reduce with effect,
must seduce by regiments, and every ens
I allow that the cavalry was ton immerser. He
•ed ilw °vitiate of Genesis! Abereromby, in proof
• tatetlitr of cavalry in England, and mi-
d, a fin lion, that it must be so in Ireli.nd.
I proved 111 the civil war w that country, where
p,a-ants ware capable of opposi..g large
•et It or* ...irk -swerves. He. did-wet ate
,ies-ity for onaiutoneong tudtuty-seven thou-
eeiAlcy. iI.. recalleciid that it had been
I, that, if they were not useful at home.
soul be isectssary upon the Coatisieut. But
fist taught us the father of that ; the impos-
t' of transporting them in any sufficient body
abb.lied. All this was applicable iu a
;rr cic4r.-e to the volunteer cavalry. He en-
sat" -aloe inmate calculation., respecting the
src c.ll.•ge, iu which the Professors of Foal&
Ar thoolie, acid Fencing, were placid upon
itl4l footing, with respect to salary. He oh-
I ten the clrirge of &twenty thousand pounds. on
t boa medicines. the Local Militia was No-
ofaLch, shish. In his op 'on, called for re.
; hot no man could look upon such a re-
us as lwucticiii, if it was to be made up by Par.
tillOpS. Ile deprecated the idea of keeping
m men in pay. without a hope on the
t. The S,asti lie considered also as calling
hi, lion, which he hoped would take place, and
nee of the sieeessity of which, he would
:mast ng unto the Committee.
veil T.tarrrOM contended, that no redoes
i.tke ploce ie thy r ivelry. He quoted
it•nrit-
of Sir Win. Ersklue, in favour of
"I"'rhon'vi in the defence atlas country. If
1,, en a sidliewiit etivalre force in belong',
1..,,,1ing of the French, oeneral Humbert
of hate ar!‘atieed to far into the country.
.duty of Sir John Moore's retreat was in
earn of tile pre wore of the French cavalry.
k 1,111.1 1111 with rtfeet, even in the swamps
and load done an. The volunteer
al ;is it es a'so ; but the error was, that

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