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of that civility being shown me, which is usual • I
when an individual is charged with a crime.
Toe explanation which the lion Gent. (Mr. Ash•
ton imith) has given, is suffieient to satisfy me as
to his motives in brie ging forward this Wird. I
do not know any.necasion upon which I ever in-
curred his personal disolrasure or animosity. The
H•ot. Basonet who has just spoken. halms known
me ; and I unreel-hilly unconscious of ever having
incurred his animosity. With reaped to one Hon.
Gent. whom Idon st see now in his place. I have
; to express my astonishment, that at the very mil.
If rsent when be was bestowing noon me a pee sonal
der ve of regard, he has signed the Petition contain-
;
11
• ing this serious charge against me I partook lately
of a splendid entertan.ment at the house sit the
Rig t Honourable Gertleman to whom I allude,
et the very time that he must hove been preparing
this dowse against me. I shi uid think tha• he had
invited me for no other purpose then to pamper me,
as he would do a oturkry ireenied for some of his
enterrainnstnts• is believe, however, that he has
b •en satiated by the sam • motives which have At-
, tasted several other gentlemen, viz. a perteet igno-
rance of what they were about, or what was the no-
tuie of the Petition they were signing. The Peti-
tion now presented, was not the one which was ("ni-
si ,ally made out, *heti •g the ohjcetions to the Go-
vernment tiiteie,t, bur a new Point n, fabricated
Only a few .Lays ag, ; and I believe it was signed
by that Gentleman, like otheis, merely for the ()h-
-ied of abusing Government, and of attack ag me.
I should be ashamed Were I t- commit layscit to
paper, and not deem roysed• respensible ti:r what
I may have therein stared. five fetter, which
the Honourable Ilarsoatt has sate as proceed.
irg from me, was merely a copy, wh h could im-
plicate en indieidital. Of this ircumetance,
however, 1 shill take no idliAi:Li^e. have taken
the pains to proem.. from (foment! Hewitt, the
identical letter 'mimed to.-1 mast beg to read it
again, in order the: the House may judge of the
tro t meaning of it ; and that 1 mpf make some ob-
er! va ions upon it. Thi tis dated, Treasury
Chambers, Sept. 221, n, which was previous to
• diesolution of hilianient, and is masked upon
Kit. • • --[hicreMr. Fremantle read this
-' t was reeommendieg to the attention of
• • .4n Hewitt. the two Candidates, who hay, been
ire sorted; and also to Major Davis, the Barroc!:-
Master-Ge..e al, and others in that department.]
" It is unfortunate (continued hi) that the lien
Gent. ( Mr. oraitiO had not given nut a prey sus coin
moomation upon this subj'el, because I could have
ioduced him to pause b . ire he broug st lot ward
such an accu•ation, so as to have saved that dis-
grace which awaits the reiitioners. and been the
means of saving the Hoes • the trouble of listening
to my declaratt n upon the subjed. I have to in-
form hire, the Hower, and tae Pethionert. that I am
a FrecOmider in the county where ;hi Eleelion has
lola% p!ace (Near hew! hear him I), and that I
have the same circumstances and inducements, to
guide me it; the representation thereof, as any man
amongst them has • I nave possessed a considerable
prop r y us that county for many yews; and I
may also state, that those who are said to have been
guided by my opinion u, on toil subject, possess
prop, ay in the same county an connection with me,
superior to most of the people who lave thought
proper to sign the Pesoion. Is it to be supposed.
because- I am Secretory of the Treasury, that I am
to he debarred from the birth-right of =Englishman?
Is a man to he deptivei of all those advantages
which are supposed to bi• attendant upon character,
wealth, influence, and every thing that can conduce
to give him weight in the eountiy, merely because
! be has accepted of a situation in its Government ?
This is a sioatine which cannot be maintaioed its
this hour. It is neither consistent with common
sense. nor common feelings , Add to all this, that
Mr. Thistlethwa te, one of the Candidates, is a near
c• nnedtion—he is my cousin, and we had ions been
upon the meet friendly teams. I am persuaded that
this will strike the feelings of every one. Was this
not an inducement snffament to justify me in afford•
hog that Gentleman any influence I possessed ?
Knowing General Hewitt, I begged him to
• apply to Major Davis. whom 1 was informed
was a tretheider in else county. I never learned
whether that Gentleman voted for Mr. Thistle.
thwaite or Mr. Herbeit. I pledge my charac-
ter. that on promise of reward was ever given
by me to any individual, in other to procure a vote.
The Petitioa is only signed by 112 individuals,
while there are upwards of 6000 voters in the county
of Hints. Tf.:s it 110 to r criterion of the popular
seiltime.o, N Ivo as to the charge of bungs
made 4:1 improper use of the public money, this 1
positively d my, both in behalf of myself, and others
cormeaed watt my department, as uo money could
be so employed without coming thrdugh nay hands,
or paid, or given ou:, trtti4tut my knowledge."
Mr. BRUDERILK thought that the Right
Hon. Gentleman's being possessed of property in
the county. furnished Lo argument for his using
that influence which was acknowledged to have
been practised.
Mr. HER BIF.RP said. he rejoiced that this mat-
ter had at length become the subject of investiga-
tion, as the incisuations which had for a bug Inn:
been thrown out, would be made to appear per-
t:3ly groundless. Ile could not help asking the
I lost. Uebtlassian, who had brought it forward, how
he could justify himseir, in regard to his assertions'
that Le could have presented the Petition at the be-
ginnirg of toe Session, had there been a sufficieut
number of c aurtry Gentle:nen present f—He could
poste, that tl e Petition now ;.resented was not then
ince:he:lc:, hot eta: another was prepared, hot wily
stiff:test in substance butt in sigootures,and ermosin
ing use charo es ag allot his Right lietletlr4Ole Eitel:4
but others not teentoocd in the present Petition. 1
This he thought was a most important tact. in
showing t;:e orooin and pri.,lress of those motives
whi.:h actuated those Geooernen uho supported it,
end would enable the House to ohcoveo whether
they were acting to gratify private views and male-
irseence, or whether it was pees:este:l for the purpoac
of obtaining tho great ends ut public justice.
Mr. Jif.r.FEit f (qt Poor) said. he could not
help, upon this oceasion, be ruing testimony to the
improper influence of Government, in other goer-
Oen of the kingdom. He could ,:are to the House,
what had come to his own knowledge, as having
j,... , here ptedised against him, when standing Conch-
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the Secretaoy of the Treasury, that it was impos-
sible he could exped any degree of that patronage
which used to he given to the burgh of Poole, be-
cause he ventuted to oppose the present Govern-
ment. Pi evious to the dissolution of Parlioment,
he was told by the Gentleman himself who was to
start as a Candidate along with him (Mr. Mich.iel
Angelo Taylor), that he was sent down by Govern-
ment for the purpose of opposing him by every
meaos in his power.
Mr. BI ODU I .P El rose and said —" Mr. Speaker,
Sir, the Hon. Gentleman who has now sat down,
has. in an ardent and energetic monner, called upon
the H, use to express its disapprobation of the prhs-
ciple and allegations of the Petition, on which the
Motion of the H',n. Gentleman ne it me is found-
ed. Really, Sir, with the feelings which I entertain
on this subjen. and without the least party bias, for,
in this H Alsr, or out of it, I am attached to no po-
litical party, I can by no means subscribe to the
hopes and wi.hes of the Hon. Gentleman, nor con-
ceal my opinion that the Petition is a proper one,
introduced on proper grounds, and fur the intro-
duction of which, whatever delay may have been
occasioned, the persons woo h we taken it up, de-
serve the warmest gratitude of Parliament. There
have fallen sentiments hem the Right Hon Gentle.
man whose name I. particularly alluded to in this
Petition. which I do confess havestruck me with me
small share re astonishment ; indeed, when I heard
Ivan this Met asserting the positive right of Go-
vernment to interfere, as a Government, in the exer-
cise of Cie de:live franchise, I felt not only auto-
ni‘hed. tint attually dismayed This. Sir, is a
prim:plc against which it is the duty of this House
to m.ke a stand, and which should not be suffered
to escape, vfithout the individual reprobation of
every Member of this House. to ther with the ex-
pressed and recorded disavowal of the Legislature.
That Has. Gen ',orlon has also declared, that no
ki td of undue influence was exerted, during the late
. by any department or individual of His
iy's Government ; that if such F fluence had
been veinal, from the si uation which he held,
as Sec•etzfry of the Tre:oury, it could not Lave
escoa:cd Lis notice and observation ; in fact. he
has told us, that it most have a&ually gone
through him, as the official channel. With this ea:un-
tory statement, from the Honourable Gentleman,
upon this plain and perspiouous acknowledgment,
1 put it to himsclf and to the House to deckle,
whether a cotaideroble suspicion dues not naturally
attach to the interference of a person so connefted
%%eh His Vajesty's G vernooent, in the eleetive
rights of tee people ? and whether it did not become
a perempti ry point of duty with the Hon. Gent. to
exercise tie most scrupulous caution and delicacy, in
any step, either personal or official, which he might
have been induced to take, with reference to the
eleonion of Members of Parliament ? It has this
nigh t come cut, that be, a public charo:ter, did
wri•e-to the head of the Barrack Department of the
Coanty of Southampton, a letter, dated Irons the
aficiol Chamber of the Treasury, the purport of
which was, to desire Lis influeoce with all those
conneteed with that department, to obtain their
votes for the Gentlemen who had started on
the Ministerial intereit. In what way, I ask
was such a communication to be received by the
officer; of that department ? or what impression must
such a request, on t' e pal t of a Gentleman who held
a high official situ tion in a branch of the Gnv en-
ment with which the Barrack Department had fre-
q lent intercourse, have made on the persons thus
addressed! I do seriously contend, that such a
communication most be considered as one of those
suite of ordsrs they were in the habit of receiving
from the Treasury. Arguing ft om my own view
of the case, I conceive, that such was the natural
impression of that request, and that the ofli:ers or
person.. to whom the application was made, did con-
sider such application direnly oflical. But the
House has been told, that nut one of the officers
employed in that depot tmeot, did aftuolly vote for
either of the candidates, who were supposed to pos-
‘co.: the iathienre of Government. Such a circum-
stance, in no degree changes the view of the case,
nor in any manner lessens the charge of undue in-
fi ience, it the chage be otherwise well-founded.
l'he was not to operate on the ME-
s of the Barrack Deportment alone; but
it was to he exn-cised by those officers, over the
numerous persons who may be fairly supposed
to be connected v. ith, and under the direet centroul
of, the B.urack Department. For instance, the
owners of barns. hired out for barracks 1 the dealers
in hay, oats, and these various other articles, which
that branch of cur establishment so poi ticularly
demands. With the merits of this petition, I WAS
totally unacquainted, until this night. My opini.)n
I have formed from what has fallen from the I lon.
Gentlemen who have preceded me in this discus.
non. Finns the acknowledgment of the Right
Hon. Gent. the Secretary of the Treasury, I du
feel, that the privileg s of this Hou.e, and the liber-
ties of the people, have received, by this influence,
in the county of Southampton, a Constitutional
stab ; and that it becomes a paramount duty with
the Representatives of the People, to immediately
interfere. With such a convietiou, I shall certainly
support the motion for referring this Petition to a
Committee of Privileges "
Mr. FREEMANTLE rose to explain. He en.-
toinly did not mean to inert the right of Govern-
ment to interfere in aleetive rights, as a Govern-
ment. His observation went only to support that
right is the individuals of the Government. He
did not say, that it undue influence was used, by
any of the present Administration, be. from his
officio' situation, must have been acquainted with it.
In his observations on that point, he did certainly
taintse himself to doe infloience of the Treasury.
Mr. CHARLES JENKINSON—" Mr. Speaker,
I rise, Sir, with feelings of pride and 51'601142t0n, to
ackaowledge myself as one who has lent his mane
to that Peutii-n which at present engages the atten-
tion of the House. I susacribed it from the strong
conviaion I felt of the truth of its allegation.. and
with an ardent hope that the House of Commons
would interpose its const:ohinnal protcaion between
the privileges of the eleiftive body, and the destruc-
tive asides of Ministerial encroachment. These
feelings originated in my mind. not from the soli-
too y case of the county of Southampton, they were
justified by the cambia and hostility wOicli I myself
experienced, as one of those individuals against
0... alsaf ea nf Lli.i.tot wl i." 1,3644 WOW sir GIAISP

ly, but unsuccessfully dire!led. At Dover, of
which port I have the honour of being a It ipresent-
alive, there are two parties s the one immediately
under the iniuence of the Vaclua;ling Board, the
other controuled .sy, the Ordnance Denartuacitt.
From inch causes, a number art the EleCtors had
determined to give one rote at the request of the
principals in these respolive branolses, reserving to
themselves the rigbt of suppentlng me with the
second. This determinatiOn was not in unison with
the inclinations of His Majesty's Government, and
a communication was absolutely made to .dl per-
sons in the various gradations of employment under
the Boards I have mentioned. that whoever voted
for my return. would be diiip issessed oldie situation
he held, and be Aeltully deprived of his livelihood.
To Cie honour of some of my cunstituents, they
waited on me, and apprised me of their intention to
adhere to their promises, even at the hazard of their
persoaal interests. The House will do me the jus-
tice to believes that, under such circumstances. I
immediately released them from their previous en-
gagements to me; whilst the fear of Ministerial per-
amnion operated so much with others, as to force
them, at the alter of their God, to disregard the sa-
cred pledge they had given; the piece of election be.
ing there held in tiie Church, by a .eculiar institution.
From this plain statement, the House and country
can decide on the merits of His Majesty's Ministers,
' and on the geneial principle which governed than
on the late Eleelinn."

Mr. TIERISIEY...-" Mr. Speaker, 1 am of
opinion, Sir, that the time of the House will he
spared, and snit-•h irrelevant sliseirsiun prevented,
by barely ptsttitg this q testion in its proper view.—
As it at p-esent stands, toe H nor is not involved in
any unintelligible or unexplained investigation; it
is net direetea to any general or abstract proposi-
tion; the whole of the documents are submitted to
cur immed;ate view ; the letters upon which the
charges against my Right Ho.. Friend are ground-
ed, have been read by the Hoa. Seconder, not only
once, but twice. In sending them to a Committee,
then: is n exse:laton or probability of adducing
any evidence in ire conclunve, or any new matter
likely to ascertain and confirm the objea wi.ech the
Hon. Gentlemen opposite profess to have in con-
templation. It has been observed by the Hon.
Baronet, that when this Petition was presented, I
complained of the delay which had taken place,
and the interval of time which was suffered to
elapse. It is true, that I did so complain, and the
reasons which governed me on that occasion will be
found to be emelt. What are the falls of the ease ?
A petition has been presented, signed by some Mem-
bers of this House, complaining of an infringement of
its privileges. Ten weeks since the Meeting of Par-
liament are suffered to pass without any notice
being taken of this violation. IVithout comment-
ing on the unusual circamstance of a Member of
the House petiiinning against an infringement, at
the moment when, it it was not his duty, at least it
was in his power, to rise in his and demand
from the House the vindication of its ovoi rights, 1
proceed to assert, that a Member, attually in pos.
session of a fait, from which such a violation ensued
is guilty of a derelietion of his legi,lative duty. in
not embracing the first opportunity to explain to Par.
liament the injury it hassustained is its charader and
privileges. This is not a new or obsolete doftrine,
but the stritt and sound Parliamentary language of
the Constitution. It is the pradical and salu-
tary usage of this House, which gives to a
question of privilege the precederr:e e:en of
the consideration of Mis 'Majesty's speech.--
But I put it to the House, was it not more natural
and more compatible with that principle of sub-
stantial justice, for which they petitioned, to have
made their application two months age, when the
circumstances were yet fresh on their memories,
whilst the wound which was infli3ed on the c, n-
stitutional rights of this House and the count: e,
was yet open, than without any solid reason or even
plausible pretence. to come now to the House, with
a complaint, which. from import, has frequently
changed its form. and which, from breathing a ge-
neral and strong accusation against His Majesty's
Government, has since dwindled and diminished into
solitary. uagrounded, and idle allegation. against
one Right Hon. Gentleman, a Freeholder of the
County of Southampton, and whose criminality
consisted in exerting his personal influence in behalf
of a respeaable relative of his family ? How were
the Gentlemen employed in the intermediate time ?
Was the objeft of their industry to search for new
cnoses of e anplaint ? or having. in the beginning,
u;.fortunately hit on a wrong Petition, have they
been since sedulously engaged in finding a right
one I The signature of one Gentleman was got.
we are told, without his knowledge. A becoming
apology has been certainly made tar that irregu-
larity, by the Hon. Baronet. Another Hon. Gen-
tleman (Mr. Jeffery, of Poole) has, in the absence
of an Hon. Friend of mine (Mr. Angelo Taylor),
traduced bins, in a manner not consistent either
with the comae of oaf Member to another. or
even from Gentleman to Gentleman. (Order! or-
der!).
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Mr. SPENCER STANHC)PE called the Right
Hos. Gent. to order; he never heard, as long as
sat in the !louse, such unturliamentary lan-
guage; it was lansuage, calculated to produce a
quarrel, and aanally to put pistols in the hands of
the Geatlemen alluded to.—/A Krairal laugh.)
The SPEAK LK thought the use of such terms,
in such an application, better dispensed with.
Mr. TIERNEY-4. Sir, I have to apologise to
that Gentleinan, and to the Hattie, for any ouiaten-
tto:lal impropriety of explession, which has escaped
tn... It would be rather unfortunate, were I
plunge my absent friend into an additional scrape,
wink endeavouring to vindicate him from, what
appear to me, unmerited aspersions. However, I
confide too strongly in the good sense arid dia.
cretion of both the Hon. Gentlemen, than, f,r a
moment, to m;, .r, that they will suffer them-
selves to be led away even by the broad hint
of the Huo. Gentleman, whose warmth of ex-
pression, in c tiling me to order. was likely
to produce the fatal 'teas, which his ap..
prehensions induced him to atirihute to my lan.
gunge (a bad hark) But, resumlng the discus
sion, I am sore in tlAs House there is n t an indi-
vidusl who would be mate jealous than 1 would be,
of an r thing which savintsed of an improper or
usdlurinauence on :he part of the Government with
eleJtss ri7h:s ; nor ivoul4 I countenance any

Ministry which would degrade its omen character
by those shameful and direct atrocities, or trooe
unconstitutional encroachments. which even Cie
Right Hon. Gentleer) uppo he (Mr. Goiroe k .
even he had de.:lared to he toiprecedmosof /bra, !
bear !J. It is, Sir, rather extraordinary, that after
the interval of ten weeks, with all the labitur
which has been employed, the industry which bin
been exerted, the Honour tide Gentleman eau bring
nn cue corroborative fact, eAursot so ai.4rt his at.
legetious against my Right Hon. Friend, or the Al.
nt:.:istratiam, !.v any concurrent facts. An avowed
letter, writit-n to a Gentleman lately at the head
of a certain Deprotnient, the purport or which cot
never be tortured into any thing like an official order,
Or, in the remotest degree, approaching to tne ex-
ercise of any undue trifionrice, is the oily potion.
work Of this unsupported charge. Was thee, av-
neral disposition, on the part of Hi, Majesty's G.
'eminent. enjustifiably en I unconstitutivoniiy to in,
terfere in the rights of Elesnion, hart it beets acemed
with strong presumptive prooli of criminality, cr
hoeing, in other cases, exerted an improper MlL-
ence. the angle allegation, on which this Petition
is founded; might, as an additional illustration, be
good for something ; but, stsnding by itself, and
unsupported as it is, it is nCtualy good for notninx.
The essence of the guilt attached to my Hon.
Friend, is, that he direded this letter to the Head
of the Barrack Department, from the officail chi;tris
bar of the Treasury, Was he guided by viner
praSitioners. he would have dated it float his
house in Stanhoge-stmet ; and, instead of sending
the letter by post. be would have dispatched it by
his servant. But the T. ease-y is the rub ;at the
merition of this term, tt e Right Hon. Gaels mina
opposite (Mr. Rose) stud all aghast en the sp.
portunity my Right Ho: . Friend enj.iys of diretting
his letters from the Treasury, hinges all the alarm
and constitutional jealousy of the Right Hoe. Gen.
tlein.iit opposite, mid his Friend. Another 'nitre
of their dismay, and an additions: proof of the '
criminality of my Right Homoireble Friend is.
that this fatal letter. was marked up: ivate ;" that
is, it was only intended for the perusal of Gene-
ral Hewitt. If the letter was sent for -the pur-
pose of being handed about, it might, by pos-
sibility, be converted into an argument in memo-
of the allegation of this Petition ; but it is ri ally a
departure from every thing probable or reasonable,
to suppose. that an instrument, intruaed to effect
such extensive purposes, and to create, by its offi-
cial injuations , such an undue influence, should
have been peculiarly limited to the knowledge Knit
attention of one person. Has it efichichl its obit& ?
or even lias it surcceded in the single reque.t it
made therein? Indeed, however piafticaity this
conimunication may operate to procure a de-
bate, it will. be found not very efficient in
procuring votes. Does it, I ask, savour of any
bold plan to extend the Ministerial ioduence, or has
any improper and unjustifieole punishment been vi-
sited on those connected with the Barrack Depart-
ment, who positively refused to comply with the
tenor of this alleged Trea..ury communication ?
Will this House, under such it view of the case.
suffer its time to be wasted, and the liberties of the
people to be trifled with. by entering into the mnst
serious of all legislative duties-.-4 Committlie of Psi.
vileges. Suppose, inr a moment, you have Groin'
II twits called to the Bar of this House. ' He is
asked, Did you, General Hewitt, receive a leiter
from the Right Hon. Gentleman, the Secretary of
the Treasnry ? Yes, I did. What did you do with
that letter t I sent it to Major Davis. What was
the answer of Major Davis? That he could not go,
as toe Duke of Cumberland, the Commanding Offi-
cer, had refused him his travelling emirates. Iles.
then, is the only information we would obtain by
referring this motion to a Committee of Privileges.
Farts winch are admitted, and which have never
beers denied, and on which this Reuse is now fully
able to conic to an immediate decision. Could any
BnrrackAccounts be produced, in which charges are
made on die public expenditure for an elenion de- •
maud ; or could the Hon. G:ntlenaan opposite
bring Fruof to this House, that the travelling ex-
pences of these Officers belonging to the Barrack
Department, were defrayed by the public Janney ;
then would the Petition be well grounded, and the
economical inclination of that Right Hon. Gentle-
man opposite (Mr. Rose) be seasonably shocked.
The economy of that Right Hon. Gentleman has
been ever the theme of panegyric; if any thing
was wanting to complete it, it was the exhibition we
witnessed cn a former occasion, worn. in the woe
spirit of regard for the ptiociple of retrenchment,
that Right Hon. Gentleman astoni.hed the House
with the rare example of printing, at his own pro.
vale expence, a public document Belonging to the
Treasury. It has been justly sated by the Hon.
Baronet. that he could find no precedent tot this case;
and, I am sure, it he had eareuded his inquiries.
he would Lave been convin,ed, that in the whole
Parliamentary history of this country, mete never
was an Oppositino which stooped to such 111
mean. shallow, and unsupported ground of et-
tack against their political opponents. Indeed.
on every consideration I can ;rive the enemies
stance, the more 1 ree.e:t on the sysiem of con-
duct the Honourable Gentlemen upposi:e have
adopted, 1 t*tl eonvinc..J, that, au are of the ex-
istence of those nets or undue influence and minis-
tetial infringement on former ucntsions, and in
other Administrations, thin have at preshi.t assented
them as incontestible faces. But I can tell them.
arid can sincerely assure thee I-11,htte, rise neither irs
I lampshit eor in any part at er of England, a single
threat has been held out by Goer foment to influence
the sores of any Elector or hint,. of Electnts.—
When Gentlemen talk of the influence of Govern-
ment, it would operate lienefi:inny to the time and
judgment of the House. to hare that term properly
&titled. '!'here is an infinence, which. I contend,
two Gentlemen in differeist offices may exercise is
favour of each other, for instance—where the out
a.ks the other to Ask Mt. Jana 03 or Mr.Tisompson
for his vote and interest in favour of his friend, sucot
an exercise is fairly practicable, it is correct
and productive of -good effects. Ent should
any menace be held out to Slr. Jo 1!30.I or
Mr. Tampion, then it bencones a downrintit undue
initience, which it i► the duty cf this lions t,
pts-
nirh and prevent. But; is a Gnsidentan, sAulousLy
ernoloyed in the Treasury, to he accused, because
he has written. from his oio.l chamoer, a letters
whicb, if written at his own house, alter dizesta

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A pot afford the Most inconsiderable /,mind for
? I put itgravely to the House to consider,
licr such a charge ought. for one moment, to
:ertained 1 and call upon it to decide, whether,
the various and adtive efforts of misrepresents-
alter ewty threat, an(lalse impression, which,
'hoot the whole ciiiiittry, have h'en rircu-
th pcisoa rid mislead the public mind, the
Ad of hostility which the 11. m. Gentlemen
:kg have chosen, is mit alculated to I ,suer,
cr thin raise them, in the estimation of this
au and this country ? He ! Hear!) 'I he
ISlemiser for that c unty
as declared his
.to for referriag it to a Committee. buck a wish
-literally congenial with the circumstances in
;a he stands, but the House has no personal
; .gt to indulge. It cannot entertain a motion
.fi calls noon it to pert-arm a most serious duty,
splicrlile to an extraordinary, unsupported, and I
spine to say, foolish Petition ; a Petition of sit
..duth, addressed is Pact to themselves, who
isq,es to verify What they have so loudly and
it eiiculated. They have, indeed, prevailed
:t.rir s.rvants, tenants, and dependants. to sign
eit I am informed, that the name of a Clerk at
esrmost in the Treasury, isaflixed to this

in: a ;.retry decisive prowed, that, on the part of
vernment, there has been no resort to any pin-
'e undue influence or official ptrsecution.—
reser you view this measure, or in whatever
the I-Vese may please to consider it, it will be
id a mere patty thing, manufanured fnr party
trpo,es, And certainly no credit to the mantal
r, Nir, the lion. Gentlemea are a you t °post-
, and as all traits must h:. tre a begenuing. we
Wily infer. that the great reltrmr., the kignt
a. Gratlenstn on the other side (Mr. G Rose),
in the lapse of own.• few years, arrive at con-
-I.erahle eminence on the opposite Bench— !
• !/--Again, I do knit, that nu case tis
le out to warrant a proce.tding, •vever Institut c
iL *pito an aEtual int*: ingoment .f the provilef.t
this Maw, or a viol uion of the IL. tie. of mit
`7p ICo For the car:reagent length co which pa. ry
.as may drive Hon. Gcutlea,en, cat make
• Atiova::ce ; but there art.. limas to it trty feel-
which .Iralld not he 0. verie.,),%l ; an 4, :slaty

riu.t Jaime my conviaina, thAs questioa •f tt.is

id and dose: iption, currying from such a is a ter,
n orovote no other sensation than disgust (:rfir!
itlf That aSerietirry of the Tteasiir). to.. the last
rears, undo all the well known and adnui ted
cir-
stances of those 16 peers, should accuse a pre-

Secretary of tojust interference iu the rights of
lion. and of an unconstitutional system of
te, in promoting that influence, is one of those
teem. 'samples of humaa audacity, which toe
zory of an irritated fattion can only displa.y"
Mr. CANNING, in a swain of spirited retort,
lied to the observations of the Right don.
eleman who sat down. He deciered it tort:s-
ee free the Country, now that he war-in. power,
t isss accrssion had induced him to aban&us all
ise plans of reform. which, when out of place,
re the endless theme of his political discussions.
e Cnantry bad now an opportunity of ascertain-
the precise ideas and correct nmiceis which he
sued of Parliamentary Reform. Fl., long•o
' in recommending the plans whish should
sued, or the ensiles necessary to be adopted,
is devoted himself only to the opportunity of
ig on his adversaries tenfold aggravations,
the Claret.: which thy have brought agai::st
F its system of put iry is teamed, not from
peirormancs of any beneficial m asure, but
-!y from the rel.tion of that to w no cel-
-1 Mr), is atuchabie. He has tlil us that the
iaio.re of an high Office in the Treistry is no
; cued of suspicion, when us-ii in eietive rights;
that Officer in his individual capacity, it was iln.
I ;Sill* hut to speak with every respell; but his in-
le-Fern e in Hampshire tan never be defended,
w.„l • the prinetoles of the I:l:it:r.h Constitution are
ro led. Defence h net been made for such
c Ju.R. Jud tL.. itlfeten.:c and m.o niog of the
G •nt. who spoke last, w mat every
see:eater A minietsation rosy Comm .sae 40 opera-
tien of .ept.sals against t .0 former. and that the
sttliesi should only be redressed by the mutual ac-
cosatioes of these respeCtive Ministers. On a com-
parison of • 're two letter:, the one wtitteo i . 1779. by
the Doke of Chandos, and the other in ih, wesent
instance, there ea olio be friend an neprej ..Feed
man rho will say the litter of the Right Hot,
Gentleman is not the owe unto, aicutional.—Ano.
thee argument for cl• oisong the Petition' as, that
is was not brough iiirwai d at the time woen it
would 'not be clef., ained, and that the House are
taut acquainted with the i-4StireS. the marginal
totes, fag levatill.m., and the ioul copies which have
tern made. Wilt the lionsc of Commons listen
to s sc: 'Hine, and will they coiu:ide with that
• syoens, which mooted as a dot.ht, s • ether the
Government had or had not a right to inter-
toe in Elections ? the doctrine we may suppose
• upon up to the mamma when the Right
etonourable Geilteman rose to explain.--Will
V•e /loose iit Commie,: listen to the weak and
le defence of the Rig. Hon. Gentleman. who,
ti-,e period of his writing this nnoonuimtional
Leer, was s•-• perplexed with the confleing duties of
a ircelol.liir of the county of Sautlianiptoni and Se-
e ear y of th- 'sot y. as to confound the :sets of one
in she other. I.se Right lion. Gentleman pursued
....erenus train of observation, soil concluded by ex-
-1" ""•R his eonwierint • that it toe Petitioa, contain-
s • oils a strong .;ligation, and niferiog to prove
'•••!'i pericMar, be dism'sscd with reprobation, it
• • :ie nior lit those oecurreoces which was yet mi-
l. in ti-e legislative history of this country.
• • ADA Mi -rose, and spoke to the following
t. I cannot help expressing my disappro-
I,- e „r v.. mai.per in wiliest the flight Hoe. GOD.
delft% just sat down, has treated the Right Hon.
tie:rid:ay, wheelies, with stall becoming modesty,
candour, and tirmoess, del ruled himself ; especially
when 1 coast nn, t'. at this is the first time the Hon.
G'n'lensaall.b. et any length, addressed the House s
h m which citcumosnee, ind-pendent of the un-
eirasarit situation in he then stood, he was so•
sided, at least, to a taw end candid re statement of
hi' assertions. The Right Gentleman had ac-
!ow the Right lion. Secretary of eang in delta
,la:tin art sit parsiamentiry principt • ; and, to
'll4'lo°4 this there he had 7..4.cl to it, e most
U. 'Cr 111C4t.S, in di t..renz si. 111,11..ing of his
Irressiousr assul Lisa t..g Lutist tan a few words di orp:d

Irma the Right Honourable Secretary, by mis-
take, which remake he had immediately correct-
ed. The question. Sit, in my opinion, tun s
rather upon the condue ret the Right Honourable
Gentleman. than en the general and wide prin-
ciple of Covet nment's right of interference, its
influencing the concitadt of eleEtors ; which latter,
the Gentlemen on the other side of the House, stem
so anxious to establivh, as the present subject of
discussion. Yet, what could be more satista.lory
to those who were unprejudiced, than the candid
statement of the Right Han. Secretary ? He had at,
along disclaimed the letter, as an official paper,
and defended it on the principle of its being a pri-
vate communication to his particular friend, re-
questing him to exert his influe ice for a relative,
who intended to 'toed candidate for the county of
Hants, where he (the Right Hon. Secretary) pos-
sessed a considerable estate, and an extensive irrfle-
ence. The dna:tine laid down is the speech of the
Right Hon. Secretary, is that of private rights; in
the exercise of which right of elective franchise, be
was perfeOly justifiable, nretwithstunding he held an
elevated post in the Government of the country.
Whatever the circumstances attending the Hamp-
shire Election, and I am willing to admit, it is ra-
ther extraordinary that, in the former Eleelion, as
well as the present, the same charge should be
made respelling the interference of Government,
yet till we must recalled, that the Petition only re-
Inn era rsagain-t the condudt of the individual, as
lember of the Government. Hail the Right
Ho wrable Secretary no other character but that
et lember of Government, the accusation waeld
h. e appiied with full force. Rut this was not the
rise He was not only a \leen;ier sf the Govern-
ment, hut also a citizen and a treenolder ; situa-
tt is which attac• ed to him certain privileges,
ric s no pet.o swever exalted his situation,
ild for a mailmen• hink of alienating. this
the feeling of the ergh• Honourable Secretary, I
appeal to his , words whets he obsi.rred, that
sooner than be es •rived of this inestimable privilege
of Britt- aberty. he would resin his station in
the Wintry. howe..l (*.shed. bus:ls an exercise
of ptivilegr w is perseetty consistent with the spiral
of the Braid* :aw. Fur t' ougn there lied been,
by theStatu, Law •)t the Land, several descriptions
of r ens excle from the exercise 0: um eleeive
France tr-t ere Members of Government were
never supp. • to be comptenended under those
disqu ilific.st s. which were only applicable to
Peers (who, say their situation, s.ere considered to
have renounced their franchise) and R:venue Of-
ficers, whos- places I say so immediately at the dis-
posal of Government, th it they were supposed in-
capable of exercising itudartinllv this inestime'rle
privilege. But, my Right Hun. Friend, not content
alone with aSing under the sanCtion of the law,
was, to my !,nowledge, prepared to give to the
Home this esa.nirg on in‘cance of that ragerneu to
have this matter ilyeroughly inee ',gated, which all
must admire, though perhaps few wauld intim -
Thi, was no less than to funnel hr accusers
the original letter, the copy of which had h- na the
sole I ) cument whereon they had founded weir ac-
cusation ; not being, aware of their Navin, the copy
in their own po%•eieei,in. Of this intent:ea i myself
was apprised, and am of opinion that such all
instance of candour and sincerity will not tail of
producing a panportiooateeffeCt on the House in his
fivoar. This letter, it s'rould be remembered, was
written to a gentleman, who, at least, WAS sup-
posed a freeholder in the county, in favour of his re-
lation. In this application, I must confess, I can see
no criminality whatever, though it happened to be
direfted to a man, who was also Barrack Master
General. For if we were for a moment to admit
the impropriety of an interference on the part of our
friends, when such an application might accidental-
ly derive weight from our connexion with the Go-
vernment of the country, we might find it ex-
tremely difficult to dtaw a line of demarcation, and
the landlord of an extensive estate would, on this
principle, find himself, the moment he happened
to be received into the confidence of his Sovereign
and the nation, dept iced of all influence whatever,
among his own tenantry, friends, and connexions.
In fait, Sir. the question for our consideration is,
what was the species of application made by the
Right Honourable Secretary? If he had made, in
the letter produced by the Gentleman opposite ni!,
say offer of place or emolument ; if he lied. in th tt
letter, denounced any threat of vengeance. or the
loss of place, to those who were placed within the
influence of Government, then indeed it would
have been afar subject to lay before a Committee of
Privileges. There now remains nothing for such a
Committee to inquire into ; the lads have ail been
admitted, and, in my opinion, there is nothing to
hinder the House from immediately deciding on
the question. which seems to resolve itself into this
simple form : whether the letter was written by
the Right Honourable Secretary. to create in the
c witty of Hants all undue influence in the EleSion ?
As this privilege is the most important and momen-
tous of all others, it would be highly indiscreet, if
not absurd, to resolve nutselves into that Commit-
tee, since it is evident we shall gain nothing by it,
as we are already furnished with every information
necessary to form an ()pinion on the propriety of
the Right I immurable Secretary's condat."
Lot si FOLKS FONE observed, the Hon. Gentle-
man need net have entered into an apology for the
Right lion. Secretary. as he was of opinion that the
Right lion. Secretary himself had already urged,
wills some etre% that ibis letter was not within
the Law of Parliament. Yet he was still of opining,
that this letter, which was but a small part of the
grievances stated in the Petition. though it could
not by itself substantiate a direa charge against the
Right lion. Secretary, might in cunjunetion with
the other accusations stated in the Petitiou, be a
very fit salve& to he laid before a Committee. should
the House think fit to adopt the motion. He bail
been mformod there were now several letters written
from the Treasury dating the late Eletitons, with
an intention to create an undue ilitience. toady to
be p educed; he. therefore. helped the House
would not dismiss this important investigation by a
summary vote.
eir.J.OHNSTONII said, that he conld by no
means suppose, that a letter written fur the per-
posts of el.Ctionvering, from the office of the Trea-
sure y. sealed with the Public Seel, and delivered by
re Official Mebsengsr, could ever be intended as a
pinta cotarnunlcation. This was unfortunately

not the only instance of Government's interference.
le had in his rusessina a similar letter,• written to
a freeholder in Yorkshire, by the same Gentleman
The Right Hon Gentleman (Mr 1 ierneyi had
said. he Ir..ped the resent Oppositioa sv.,u J, in
ise, beet.ma god Reformers All a s..aU
aid (said Mr. Johnst.,ne) this kind s, that
I hope we shall never became such Reformers as
those at Maids's:trip:9

Mr BATHURST spoke against the -notion.
Mr. PERCEV AL rose, and spoke as follows—
" oir, I cannot but express my sus :r .ir at fearirg
Ministers attempt to throw on us the charg, of nacos.
4ivency. Indeed, it must ,ie acknowledged, this is
of a piece with their usual condua. and corn with
a peculiar good grace f(om that virtuoii &rushy,
which was ever ex.-ioieli. se against the . . tai ...I the
Hampshire Petition Now, mark their conduit
when it is produced. !'hey who were sn anxious to
exculpate themselves torn the charge .d undue in-
fluence, now refuse to go irtu Committee, where
I..eir condua would undergo an impartial, I: • - tts
stria examination. With ss.h professions. .. es
often see men endeavour to delude and gshi the
credulous ; but Ministers may depend noon it, Lad
this everdhg's conddct, if it doe. not tot-oly undeceive
the courory, so Leg their dopes, will undoubtedly
put the leao disci ming oa their guard in luture.
1 As for the Right Hon. Gentleman accused, I ' •uk
upon him as the mere instrument an the hands of
his superiors. In this point, ti..• Peti . -mos also
view his concise ; for they allege, that v ;ions in-
stances of Ministerial interference. have, to their
kanaledge, occurred in different patss of tie cowl.
ty. How then is the Petition to b • answered?
Not by going into the examination of tt.e prevailing
and general abuse of power, but by patching up
a sort of lame defence, in the only insurce, amongst
many, specified ; and thus this virtuous colheion of
Ministers, who were so clamorous for an opporta-
pity of displaying their innocence to the world.
are now content to 'mother, in the first instanc •
that inquiry, which alone could have preserved their
charattei from those suspicions of ezertiog undue
influence, which have so very generally prevailed ;
and of which so many proofs are offered to be
produced. The Bight Hon. Gentleman has said,
this application was only made in the charatter of a
freeholder of the county. But to whom was this
ma...e ? to his tenantry ? No. Was it understood
to be a private communication by General Hewitt
No. He immediately, by his eecretary. writes to
Davis this letter, adding, that be had received the
orders eostiined in it, from (not a tee •telcicr of the
county) but the Secretary of the Treasury The
same Gentleman, I recoiled, said, that ..ad t!.e let-
ter been direa.el from the Ovate house of the Right
Hnn. Secretary. all would have been nght. This I
deny. What, are you to suppose, because it would
not then corn- direCtli font his Office, that it, man-
dates would be less are Jet to t This would he,
i:.!•-ed. to open au eternal suLtei i up, by which the
Miniory could, at all times, escape the wholesome
rettraiat provided by the wisdom of the Legi-Lture.
Let the system Lid down by the Right lio.i•dir-
Getalernan be only carried on with a little
ing -shy, and each Member of Go: ---n. io,
possessing a freehold in one or more coo
may efferodally, in <pite of law, controul to.
suffrages of .at county, and thus the hoasted in-
dependence ut Parliament will quickly be transform-
ed inte4te cairn subservience of con cup: placemen
and p-osioners. It was worth the &tremens or tt e
House to compare the former cor.Juft of the Gen
tlemen now in the •sliaLtry, with their present
unwillingness to oiquire int s t'.e complaint of the
Petition. They had then asserted there had been
corruption and influence res c red or Of this they
could bring iio proof; yec tlaty collect for reform.
Now the abuse exists, even be t.,eir confession, ye.
they refuse to inquire into it. That is, in other
words, we, whe were once so me, are, by the un-
happy influence of place. become so corruot, that
we dare not permit an injury to be instituted, lest
the disease should be d.scovered to have inteCted us
all with its malignancy. It there be is Government
any regard for the fromeof the Constitutim, they must
be convined there is sufli:ient grounds tomer into
Committeeon this Petition. And I hope that, notwith-
standing they have asserted this to be a party Ties-
non, which I think may, with greater jostice, be
retorted on them. they will, nevertheless, give us an
opportunity of having the matter fairly discussed,
'Tis a duty they owe to the magnitude of the ques-
tion, and the anxiety of the community at large.
Mr. BATHU RS I' rose to expOtin.
Lord HOWICK observed, that, from the sub-
stance of the Gentleman's speech, from his tone
and manner, in which he bad out-Hetoded Herod,
he must be convinced there was no party spirit in it.
The Right' lion. Gentleman had charged Mi-
nisters. in his usual stile, with a derelietion
of principle. 'lshii hail been attempted to be
proved by mete invective, no argument what-
ever had been adduced. He had then proceed-
ed to declaim against Ministers as reformers.—
Of the principles on which those charges
were founded, he could never be ashamed.
—His Lordship then produced a letter. signed
George Rose, direacd to a Mr. Baldwin, a gentle-
man in the Barrack Department, at Canterbury.
desiring that he would use his best services in favour
of his friend (Mr. Calculi). He thought. however,
that the mere solicitetton of a vote by a person in au
official sitnation. if not accompanied with force or
undue influence. was perfeely adinissable ; and,
unless there were other grounds than those, the
House could not be called opoe to interfere. At
the time of the Election for Westminster. when
Lord Hood was a Candidate. it appeared that
there was a separate charge for expenees
made to the Treasury. When. therefore, a **-
palate account was formed, lie asked, would it sot
have been a fit subjen of inquiry ? A charge was
made against the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr.
Rose) who was then Secretary to the Treasury, for
interfering in the remission ot certain fines in the
Excise Department ; and all he cased say was, that
the motion was made, and the proof offered; his
Lordship supported that proceeding, but was un-
fortunately lett in a minority. It, therefore, there
had been a case of that kind stated, he would net
oppose an inquiry ; bat no such case WAS now made
out, nor any thing like it. His Lordship then ad-
verted to the Right Honourable Gentleman's in_
tettereuce when in office, on an estate in Northum-
. . . . . .

question he then considered wet.. -whether Mr,4
Fr. entente (•vho east it-ally delivered t.is s T..
time CS mac . better e r c ~,, 41) •ad iu ei feted
in his intlevidnAl ••ha actor. or as I,CT they to
the Treaeory ? 11, ',tee, ifest Gentlemen was
of too proud and irefeeendent a spirit, to be
made the inttrumee. to any imeroper influence.
He was a trelai:.l... of mpshire, he was a Se-
eretery of ch. Tr • ury • d .e also was nearly con.
nettled and re!atet: to e Gen.leman wh;) was
Candidate for that ui •; this, described. he
STOW a letter tress te :usury to Geueral Heieitt.
requesting his indlue: a is a paricuiar liv .it
; but the dig t Hon. end L amid eentle-
man laid some peculier ernelmeis upon the word
.4 private," written the free' of tee, letter ; and
what was the true •;:enificetion of mat word why,
by the word " pirate," in his conception
.king, was me- something the was n .0
made public, and this was the v ry hse i a d
front of his Honourable Trio J's offense
And he would id, did her: appear, in the who le
of this trans hon. from hegiu eng en end, any one
sentence or word, implying a •hreat pronere. ur
exerti r. of nterest ? N • cacti t .ne appeared; but,
on the cone; ary, it a peered. that several pet s,
who had filled tfi urUt f.;rivernment, eseed
different way. I et ere was any thing of eersonal
rntet fete •ce or edieence, it was on the •irtno side;
for, it was 4 known fad, that a military teerele-
man, who had some interest in the county.. we • or-
dered out of the distriel, to prevent his tering.
fie Lordship then enumerated the signature t • the •
Petition ie question; and oleset ved, that the greater
pace of diem mem persons no s• holding offices under
Gov ..:nraent, and oar of whom, at that moment,
was applying for t; e Office of Surv.ynr of razes.
This, thereiore, was • pretty good pool, :oat the
pre rut Gneernenent was not so .errthle as had been
stated. Het "-Hole, r, ntendeo, tL r, under these
circa es, there w. • eto nee.-s- . •tr any in-
glary at Hoene, because eve,' thing . could be
known was already before the House, anal he was
convinced it wet a proceeding Cie House !levet
would consent to. Me slier all the noise which has
been made upon this Petition ; after wiring tl•
public expedition to the higoest pitch, from the very
commencement of the Parliament; now, at the
end of two months, this greet question comes tar-
dily forward. lbe charge w.t now made, upon
which the House was cep" hle of judging; and, is his
opinion, a more frivoteut one he never heard t and
trusted it would be at o.:ce di:trete...l out of Court.
When Gentlemen found ills eelejesty's Ministers
atting inconsistently, when they were netted mine tine
cue and improper influence, then Gentlemen might
come forward, anJ complain with j•i-t;ce. But
how many proofs had they of this already'," and
when they recelleeted what had been done on a o.
former night, when a Committee was appesiteesi ter
inquiring respelling the restedicn se useless PLC:ea
and Pensions, what grented, he asked, was :bare
for chargiiig Governmeat with iticreinit.g (err
power and influeece •% as not that Coeinettee
im-
mediately grantesi an.: was this, thee, a ort of of
the ineonsistency of the enema Geireitiment ? oe
of that exercise of tyr • , with which they ad
!seen accused? But it w. .v, fur the fleet tame. viii,
a person holdiere •e ender Govertueeet,
.rid not imolai* in teves• sns, and this was sup. *
ition the vote of 177 e ; bat teat iteseinteon •
only went to AM.& the imp, tete, oar of power. It
might be cu. ',nicest, however, for many of those
Gentlemen w: o hasfhessn fur enoeters in power, and
who, as had been stated to tee 2teelers of Hemp.
shire, shortly again expelled • sa.ece2. His Nlajes.
ty's-present Ministers, to entiel. as much as possibie,
every thing upon them, to bre g teem into ding: ace
and disrepute ; but his Lordship trusted the House
would not be ld away by such .peeious argues:met%
or carried into any hasty or imp; ovident sneascre,
by such declaelation, hut that errs, would at once
desalt s the subjeft au frivolous and grouedires.
Mr. Pereeval, Sir Henry Mildrnay, and Lord
Howick, severally erplained.
Mr. ROSE said, he came down to the House,
with the strongest determination, not to trouble the
House upon this sehjed ; but as several aliutions
had been made to him, in the course cf the De-
bate, and as the Nobie Lurd (Hossrick) had repro.
sewed him, not entirely pure and immecuiate.
(a feud laugh lie was induced to trespais ire
the House with a few observe:inns. He then ad-
verted to the letter read by the Noble Lord. and
observed, that the Hon. Gentle/matt, therein
meitionel, (Mr. Calcratt) had made but a very
indiZerint retern for his kindnesses. He next
allu Jed to the complaint before the House, against
himself, which was considered insoffigient ; role eete
prosecution that he soon after comfeneed agAitiet
the printer of a newspaper, whom he had peewee.
red for ,rablishing those charges against him. in
civil *Rion. and recover dem iges. instead f pro.
securing criminally; and which was revtlhllll.o6l9
by a 'meson intimately conneeled win .1 Nobl • Mar-
quis. (Buckingham) He now Mt lernself retried
on to answer a charge of listens held out
threats, upon former occasions; and was the
Committee of Privileges mew moved for granted,
he should Lave thea thouelic it necessary In state
some falls upon that head. tut it what had been
s ated co the other side the House that n• ;ht wee
true, be was most grossly mistaken ; he did not elle
serf it of his own leowledge. '• at he was informed
that an Ma. bfernber (Mt. Preemantle) wed gale
to that town (Christchurch) aothoeised by the
Treasury; aced the day betore the EleeVon for a
Mayor, declared, that any one who Ad..esed to Va.
Rose, should lose his employment. Upon the dis-
solution of Parliament, two Gentlemen. Pule&
strangers in that ctoontrf, went down, armed with
letters from the Fe•errtary of the eatery. tome of
which he then had in his pocket, sod deeded the
Custom-house Officers. who, by law. could not in.
terfere at an leseetion, to use their influerce in A-
y our of • certain candidate; but, in the sesqctsl.could
procure no more than one solitary vote. He never
befots knew so touch iulluence used by the Treiesw ;
he spoke with sincerity. and le any Lion. Gentle-
mats thew, if at any time before such influence had
ever been used. As to himself, be defieJ any single
men to produce a single instance where he obtained
a vote from any person for whom he ever did a krad.
neSS.—(4 1..14.4).—1n another part of the country
(Southanipton)thete were 7013 roter., te :woof whom
alone he had been of ease service, and e
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