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‘`l‘.l- TiTRATRW:ROTA4 DIAIIMY:LANE.
THIS EVENING, FRIDAY, Septegnbrr Si,
Majesty's Servants will mamas (littli time) s new
Dramatic Piece, is daresseut, caned

GERALD! DUVAL. - • • :',
TIIE BANDIT OF BOHEMIA.
Gewaltli Ducal, Mr. Cooper; Count Alienberg. Mr. Bar.
nerd ; 'blearier' Mr. Hattie • Wittikin, Mr. ' Knight • lionise,
Mr. Randall; Sternal', Mr.i Smith. Melina, Countess
of Alteaherg, Miss Atseitbecte; Nina, Miss Cahill; Niwnette,
Mr.. Bland; &emirs, Mrs. Egertoe.
Alter whir* •111411taind "
VIE COHONATION..t .. tan--
The Profession seatmences front Westasigapel
lir &rood Scene the ',fierier dthe Abbey.---The
and Introdnetory iseuse, in whirls Mr. Kaight will int
a Calais Son, entitled,' Thalia, add lb. Cortweitelthy!
, ii Entiand .. -- - ...___.l..—..breanellliessoil, the Hdlg

NSW THEATRE-ROTA4 HAYMARKET.
THIS EVENING, FRIDAY, S•ptember ei,
will be perforated (lid tine) a new C,onsedy, iu three
arts, called
MATCH-BREAKING :
Or, THE PRINCE'S PRESENT.
The Principal Chtroeters by Mr. Joe's, Mr. Terry, Mrs.
Raker, Mr. Decamp, Mr. Williams, Mr. Younger, Mrs. Chat-
tertry, Mrs. P , and Miss R. Corri.
The Prologue to be 'spoken by Mr. Terry.
After which, 10th lime, a new C4olllge Piece, is one ad, galled
MATCH-AI AZ I NG.
The Prlatipel Characters by Messrs. i.e.., Cliberry, De.

tamp, Tes ry, sad Mrs. Chatteriey.
To nonclode wish the Musical Eateetainneat of
LOCK AND KEY.
Brensascen., Mr. Willson.; Chanty, Mr. Payne; Capt.
Vain, Mr. Baker; Ralph, Mr. J. Roswell. Laura, Mrs. Gar-
gle! ; Panay, Mrs. Junes.
Deer. lobe opened at Half.past o'Clock—the Play to
brit. ■t Sens.
Plana for the Bons to be takes of Mr. Massingbass, at
the Theatre.
N.B.—Private Roses may be had nightly, by application
at the Buz-office.

FOR THE BENEFIT OF Mg. JONER.
NEW THEATRE-ROYAL, HAYMARICET.
IN coosego.nee of the very greet success of the
New Comr.ly of MATCH-BREAKING, se THE
PRINCE'S PR ESENT, it will tot perfaessed TO.MORROW,
SATURDAY, Sepiesabor t 2.1011. wits THE MARRIAGE
OF FIGARO, and a canny of Eatertaissonits.
Ticket. and Places for the Bella to be had of Mr. Jost",
No. IC Cbar4.street, Groirvesor=sod .if Mr. Moo.
sinkage, at r 6 Box.olleo of the

THRATRE.ROYAL, OPEARA-HOUSE,
STRAND.
THIS EVENING. FRIDAY. September el.
trill be perforated (33d Owe) a oew Petite Piece, is
two acts, called
LOVE'S DREAM.

Frederick Easy, Mr. Wrench ; Siwwt, Mr. Harley; Heavy
Mortar, Mr. Pekrunsa ; Mr. Dormer, Mr. Rowbselsam. Ce-
cilia peruser, Miss Kelly; Maria, Mn. Bryan.
After which, 16th time, • sew Operetta, called
A CURE FOR COXCOMBS.
The Characters by Messrs. Wrench, Wilkinson, Rew.
bethink, W. Bennett, Miss E. Blanchard, and Miss 1. Ste.
reason.
To conclude with (16th lime) • new Milo-drama, its two
acts, called
THE MILLER'S MAID.
The Miller, Mr. Bartley ; George, Mr. T. P. Cooke; Giles,
Me. Emery ; Matiy, Mr. Harley; Old Granger, Mr. Row.
litithani. Dame, Mei. Grote; the Miller's Maid, Miss Kelly.
Boxes 6•.; Second Price, 35.; Second Price,
Is. 6.1.--Lower Gallery, 2..; Second Pray, Is.—Upper Gil-
key, Is.; Second Price, 6d.
Doors open at Half-past Six, the Performasee to begin at
Seven.
To morrow, Love's Dream—A Cure for Coxessodis--asid
The Miller's

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Coasidr red the Cases of 66 Petitioners,
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it, birril for Inquiry
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Mr. Grasswell, the Secretary, No. 7, Cravrmsireet, Strad,
where the Bootee may be IoCCII by those who are inclined to
support this Charity, and where the Society meet on the
first Wednesday to October

eupesiosus?-1. Walk, mime the people lire at k very low
rate, tIiCY rminsie.sking it for years, with an extraordinary_
short crop, and somatic papa very high rem; but the Nor..
folk or. Suffolk farmers wank not take is at soy net; it
depends sport the sort of teasel.
Wises you speak of forty bushels so acre, to what extent
of surface should von apply that apply it aka to the sex
coast of Sussex ; 1 do wee kegs any land more productive
than the vague( the Beath bosom, the varies nest to the sea';
it is the Bnl tors that-comes. lia harvest in Emceed i tied
•• early 'uremia alirtria the moat productive ; titers is less
risk about it, as le weather f it Is the least subject WWI.
dew • corn that ripe" cuts isesidoni subject to mildew.
Du you imagine, that the kw discouraging price actors
for the last year has affected the sowing this spring ?-1411.
1 do not think it bee ; 1 lank, if it woe to eentiaseanotber
'air, it would ; because, I thigh, a vast deal of land would
be arrows up to the landlord. end sot cultivated at all.
Would eel the emiseesonee be, • greet dellefeerry in the
produce of this coautry below its consumptiou ?-1 have so
doubt the produce world greatly lessee ; but whether below
its eonrumptiou I eau bardlgduy.
is there not an idea that sße Weil of ('.rest Britain does
sot praline soMeinit Mow 8410Mmta, by tar ntwstM emdemiell-
lion ?—.That does nut appear to be the ease the two last
•years; there has hen' very little foreign Corn brought in.
- Do you thick, if the low price of teen continues, it will
- prevent sprier suwiug, and shorten very mach the produce
of the country?—No doubt of it, it it continues; but sot
this year.
alliMar"it re"? de applintio•tpeo ei
adrerepoisirs "ie
the Iterngstbfer °
of time
Air which low prices coutinue ; if Moose low prices continue
fur a year or two, there will be as hiseuraso queasily of laud
put out of cultivation.
Them that wi'l render the country mere dependant on
forties nation for her supply ?—I lf coons that nine be the
cow, if the land goes out of cultivates*; corn must be
brought in to feed the people.
Can you state what quantity of free forefeet cora was leA
on hand, when the ports were open, in 1819 ?—The foreign
corn trade I am not concerued in • being greatly occupied
is knew le:m lead, and upon Gentetes estates; I seldom
have an opportunity of attending a conskarket.
You know, probably, that there Is at present • quantity of
fret foreign corn its the awakes ?—Nut is the home market;
I have heard that there is a great deal seder the Kisses locks
fee the f weirs market.
Yea have heard there is • quantity seder lock of that
brought in in 1819 ?—tio I have heard.
Do you think the importation of 1819 was rendered se.
cessery by the deficiency in the home growth in 1818 ?-1 de
sot think the crop of 1818 • large crop; hat 1 by au means
sow think it was r very defirieut crop; the appearance in the
early part of the seasoe was that of an almost total failure,
bat the straw predated greatly.
If land is thrown out of cultivation, in the way stated in
a late eptertioa, will nut that have the effect of raising the
peiee of corn in the home market ?-1 think is must.
• Must it not rise to above Mk. before it can, ender the
prevent law, be imported ?—Nu doubt of It.
Is it possible that the fanners con enntione to pay their
present rents, tithes, taxes, and poor's rates, at the low prior
of cora which they now have ?—I think out.
Most not the extrusive purchases made of foreign cora, in
the years 1817, IBIS, and 1819, fora very coosiderable time,
dial& the venal purchaser, of British core from dealing so
largely with the British grower as they otherwise would have
dose ?—lt must love 601110 effect, hut whilst the price •
cora is so tench below that which will open the purls, 1 can
not suppose it to produce a great deal.
Mast sot a market, to be a good market, be always sock
a. mdmitsof • omens degree al atmeculekm and not merely
• market of supply from hand to mouth?—Large specula-
tors coming into a market, of course must inerense the
price, but it strikes me the best speculator to keep corn for
Great Britain is the wealthy farmer, who keeps it is the
strawi' and that I know to be the case; at the present m•.v.
meatl know many large farmers who have not threshed vent
• single handful, who will not sell at the present prices.
Do you not coercive it would be • great advantage to the
country if there were encouragement given to warehouse
home coni instead of foreign ours?—lt is, I think, an hypo-
thetical ease; hut arleviniug such a circumstance to take
place, an immediate benefit to the farmer would accrue, but
1 do sot know the means of keeping corn for a great length
of time.

Do you think it would he worth the while of any British
farmer to attempt to warehouse British turn whets he can
posehase foreign corn at ro much lower a prier, and ware.
house It ?-1 think it quite worth while for any farmer to
warehouse his corn its his stacks at this lime, if 1 may be
allowed to use the term.

What pmsible motive could the farmer have al any lime
to warehouse the produce of his farm, in an expensive
warehouse belonging to another person, with all the charges
upon it ?-1 never heard of ■ farmer attempting that.
It is not possible, if at any trine corn in this country
became so extremely cheap that the farmer did out thick it
proper to take it to market, provided be could do without
the money it would produce at market, to keep that corn
and not stud it to market, rather than 61 send it to ■
glutted and too cheap a market?—There are many now who
du so; 1 know many iudtviduals who are acting upon that
at Ibis assent.

Is there ■ny thing to prevent • farmer warehousing his
corn at this moment?-1 hardly know how • farmer ran
warehouse his corn; it is •n extraurdonstry circumstance fur
a farmer to lay up his corn after it is thrashed ; •ud I should
no longer call bias • farmer, hut • corn merchant.
The question refers to the British merchant attempting
to speculate in British eons instead of foreign corn, sod
warehousing that article?—That must entirely depend on
the opinion the individual may form, and what he supposes
will he the price of corn sums time brace.
Are you of 'opinion, that if a well founded opinion pre.
wailed that British taro, the average of nhich is about
fifty-four shillings, would rise twenty-Eve per cent. within
the n-xt twel h, there would be any want either of
•apital or specuisti .... for the purchase of British COM
Nis ; I have uo doubt there would be plenty of buyers if
they were confident of reliant saris a profit.
A rise of twenty-five per cent on fifty-four, would bring
the prise 'alt corn to silty-vertu and sixpence, would
it not?—Yea.

At siity.aeven and sixpence would not the person an ape.
culating with British eursi, still retain the monopoly of the
home market, as against fueeigo core ?—Certainly.
Then would it not he a much more advantageous and safe
speculation at the present pikes, should there be a prospect
of a rise in the commodity, to speculate in British corn,
which enjoys the monopoly of the market up to eighty shil-
lings, rather than in (nicest) corer, which merit be admitted
at all, until an uncertain and indefinite period at which the
price may exceed eighty abillings?—l think that would de-
pend upuu wh.tt price he eau buy foreign corn abroad for.
Would it nut also depend upon the probability of that
tirrign corn being admissible within some limited period to
the British market ?—Nu doubt.

Thin rupposisig the probability to be against the prices
bring such as to admit f.ireigts corn to the British market fur
two years to come, as it has been excluded fur two years auw
gone by ; which du you think would be the wisest specula-
tion, to purchase British corn at fifty-four, or forest,' corn
at 1111/IY-five, with a view to the British market ?—British
emu, beyuud a doubt.
Have you ally reason to believe, that there will be such •
rise in the price of cure as that supposed in the questiou ?
My opinion IP, that there will not; my opinion is, that there
is more cure isi the kingdom el tins season of the year than
there is in amity years immediately after the harvest.
You speak of curu the growth of Great Britain or Ire-
land ?—Yea.
Nat hicluding the warehoused eon, ?—No.
Do not you (kink the farmer is prevented by his distress

froth speculating, by r hark his own esieS ale?
—Many small farmers pud pour fainters bare theettehetuit
their coin and tarried it to market; bet I know very in..
tressed persons upon estates, the reefs of staid. base 5e...8
in aurae two or three years, some longer, wh0.... itaillo•ds
have horn kiwi enough nit to r 6 tele& payritent of the rests,
who have hot thrashed out • handful.
Du you consider that the corn an kept bark, reaches to
any great mount in quantity?—Yes; 1 think to sea
great amount.
If the importer of foreign corn was prohibited, by high
duly, from speentalieg in furriers corn, would he not embark
his money in the purchase of that corn yaw bare Leru speak- I
lag 011-1 lordly know, fur 1 oppreheint the specolther in
foreign corn is looking to a doable market ; that the mall
who buys foreign corn takes the rh ince of the puma being
opened here. ...ma if they are not, it is irerely trsnsferred
over in some ether plate .f course; therefore I thief the
epreiletuni in foreign stirs; who are generally men of large
capital., do it wit► a leellOwairw, mid %SS booking inerely to
one market.
Ermine this in your estolleedoitiabolow wM emareiwe
with reference to the essosempt ion of this country, mad weave
is prier is thin evrestry, they weeld still epeeelste itgthe
corn yon have described as being retaileedis the *sob of
the firmer ?—I think they might, tir a petal. degree.
To whatever degree that speculation was maintained, 4ei
you sot conceive that it would be an iroeourageineut to the
farming Interest !—No doubt about it.
What cossuies id Europe, besides great Britain, are pe►-
chasers of gain ?-1 believe there is a great quantity of grate,
at this time, shipping fur Italy.
You have spoken of cure bring in the heeds of wealthy
farmers; is that molly thrashed or unthread's:4 !-11.1n-
thrashed ; it is in the straw.
Can any farmer keep a considerable qestirity of corn is
the straw without great injury ?--1 think be antlers; the
corm wastes eousiderahly with vermin.
Ces he spare the straw ? —There is his greatest difficulty.
Du you think the corn wastes more in the straw than
when it ii thrashed?—No ; I have sees tore laid out is gra-
naries annihilated. picked net with pickaxes, if it he* two
yeses; it depends upon the mason cud upon the way in
which it was laid up. British cure is seldom bought for
speculation on this account ; there is no such business per-
used.
Are you sot aware that rich farmers have, of late years,
bees in the habit of plaeisg their grain is granaries ?-1
have sot knows It.
If the rise in the price of eorn, depended epos the deli.
eleney in the growth at tome, would not the foreign are
sow warehoused have ■w immediate effect upon the horse
market, so as to prevent it. rising to that extent, that the
delleiseey itself, perhaps, might justify ?Nu doubt it
would lower the pries of corn.
Would it before the ports arrested, or afterwards ?—Whew
the prices ruse to be so mar to the opening the poets, it
would have an effect upon the market, eertamly.
In preveutieg a rise to that price at which the ports would
open ?—Certainly.
Would not that be one beneficial effect under the present
law, to the-British grower, inasmuch as it would abet out
both the foreign stuck of corn on band here, and p t a
fresh importation fur the home market ?—Nu doubt of it.
What would be the immediate effect os the market, if thit
ports should opts with a large quantity in warehouse?—lt
would create a eousiderable fall is price, certainly.
Would nut that depend epee time deficiency ?—Nu doubt
of it.
Would there not be, provided the prices came to merle
She price of opening, s great asspetitios between tyke grower
gad the speculator, use to fosse op the market to Imes the
poets, said the other to lower the market to keep them abm,
and so a great deal of false speculation be occasioned ?-s-1
think there roust likely would.
_ _ .

Du you know bow long any of the best foreign corn that
you have 'ern, will keep, when warehoused ?—No; I no out
know enough of the business of the foreign curs dealer.
. . _ .

In your opinion, is the capital estipliiell IN laud dial•
itisblug?-1 Skink it is wasting very larch.
Do you think it has already so such dirnioislicil as to in.
jure the agriculture of the euouiry ?-1 think it has, to a
eel gala degree.

Do you nut think that if the pretent low prices of cora
were lo continue, very serious injury must arise to Ike agri-
culture of the errantry ?-1 ►ace no doubt of it.
Du you not suppose the prettent price to be, in a great
degree, the effect of the very aheudan► harvest of the last
year, soperadded to the rood harvest of the year pretediug
—I think that hat had a great effect, but by nu meats, the
only our.

*hal is your opinion with reapect lo the present cora
law, as • iwutectiou or lbe famines I—lt roust act as • pro-
tection to him, /*fund!.
Du you mean a sufficient protection ?—lf it should raiz'e
the price of cora up to 10s. a bushel, or 130 r. a quarter, I
thick the farmer wuuld du very well st 'bat price.
Du you thirik it will produce that effect ?—No; I do not
think it will.

can it produce any effect if we grew one own consump-
tion ?-1 apprehend, is that case, ■ny law of the sort would
be a nullity.
If swede not grow our own consumption, would it then be
• sufficient protection ? —1 think, if Wellid nut grow our own
consumption, it would have the immediate elect of raising
the po ice of wheat to kOs.

What would be its subsi (pent effect on the mar►et ?-8o
bong so there was a deficiency of crop to maintain the coun-
try, the price would be kept up, I suppose, to the price of
import.
Is nut a price exceeding 80s. held by the Legislature to he,
as the law now status's, the evidence of a deficiency for the
supply of the cossumptitm of the county ?—I should consider
the Act of the Legislature to mean so, certainly.
Is nut the effect of the law, is a case where there is a defi-
cient crop, such as immediately to create a fall in the price;
■nd that the consequence must be, that the smaller the crop
of the farmer, the lem price will lie receive raw his grain?--
All import of corn into the market must of course reduce
the price.
How then does the law operate as a protection to the
farmer, in the case of a short crap?-1 apprehend it arts in
this way, that whenever there is a deficient crop, the price
must come up to 80s. before stay foreign corn can be thrown
into the market to reduce it.

Was out the prier of wheat, in the years 1819 1'3(11819,
considerably higher than it is nu.?—Considerably higher;
the gre it fell has been since this harvest.

%fa* nut there during the whole of 1818, and the early part
of 1819, an unlimited import of foreign corn, so a very great
amount ?-1 •pprebend there was • very considerable im-
port, but 1 sin nut master of the details.
MCP not it follow, that that foreign import did not pro.
duce the effect of throwing down the price below 80s.?-11
bad nut that effect certainly at the time.
Do you ands that a year ever occurred, in which the
price of wheat was quoted at 80s. at home, in which the
deficiency in the genteel growth was not such, that you
could nut possibly estimate the extent of real profit to the
fanner?-1 redninber aurae yews before the fall in the cur.
rency, when with abundant crops we averaged a great deal
more than 80s.; they were nut defective years ; it was then
that land attained its highest price ; that the abundant pro.
duce of the earth sold at the price of a deficient our, 1 think
owing to the increase of the circulating medium.

DO you think that the price of 275. fur oats, which is
Axed as the average is the present corn Is.r is in proportion
to the price of wheat and oilier grain ?—I think it hardly
the common calculation has be►n, that barley should
bear half the price of wisest, and •ets something:leis, not
equal to the price of barley; I think it is too low fur oats,
should say 355.
Must not the market for barley be in a great measure re-
gulated by the price of oat,, from the circumstance of the
distillery who are considerable purchasers of the iuferitiv

• dent '., bares of barley, denting in oats , ;., :trent
when oats are cheaper !—The on*, ho
degree, regulates Cdr price of the uglier.
cat .s: .
1 die Mali, 1821.
•st
JAWS Conelly. ..aq. ofinin: coifed in and ezeltalaai.
You ante waked, on )m:r mtisrastiso, respecting she
poise, of MIS semidry to csnipcie with America in thy ar-
tier' of floor iir the general markets of the world; hste
you any thing•to add to your fillal•Vr UpUil that sol*ct ?
My ohj-rt a to show the dr. et of the 'swot-Wilms of Akar-
dein fluor upon Ursa. roust:ries ; America poasessrs a pro-
sligions advantage over es -so recto et of an moils
that at toy mills, forty-fear miles film Doblio, alb ch
are %toy exlensise, and from w hid, there ism writhe earnage•
the abut" of the way from. the mill door to Doblos, staid
which outer carriage has coat at bard 400,000/ jibe tirstual
Canal goes for alatut 33 miles, and there is else Harrow
navigation which takes op the tem itodt r of it), not with-
*landing that, H. 1611 comes from America to Liverpool at •
lower freight than it can be put on board ship ((roar Shot
?sill) iss .
At what rale of freight do you know shut floor can core
*urn America ti Liverpool !—I have boron it to runs for
half a dollar a Lane! ; it is uot sent as an °bird of prohloiro
general, except wheel the ports are open; Iht pens liars been
shot too years since the Mb of February, 1819, ageism fo-
reign chest sod (orrice A stir and by • ,Pllll.O I Lain ((Mtn
Liars rpool, of she six mouths ending the 31st of March,
1820, the import was 22,178 binds of flour ; and in the sit
mouth. in the succeedmg year of the saute lit I it'd, it had in.
ceased double; it was 45,284, the ports bring shut the
whole of the lime; it was, 1 presume, sent there waiting
for a market.
To what market does it pencrally go ?—To the West ludas
Colonies, generally, I believe.
How much does half • dollar a barrel make upon the,toit I
—Eighteen shillings British a ton.
Are the lulls higls, upuu the canals to sh:ch you refer ?
They are.
What are they a mile, by the ton ?—I cannot precisely
till; it is either 2d. or 3d. a ton per mile; hot, hoot:ter, the
(maternal, is still cheaper Mao land-cm riage.
Is Americas flour cheaper its Liverpool this year Ibso
Irish fluor?—Considerably cheaper.
Have not the Americans en advantage over Ireland, from
the mode of packiug their flour ?—A coosidtrable advan-
tage; Amends has a considerable advantage over every
other cosuosry in reaped of Sour, by baying it packcil in bar.
rob, another advantage, it east be slopped on board a venal
wills the least valuable tnerchaDdire, without any danger of
iajoring much merchandise.
Yuen flour is sent in sacks?-1t is, in general; but if we
export it to a foreign market we would pick it into barrels.
Does not the cis cumatance of American flour cosmog to
the Visited kingdom, notwithatauding sine expenses of
freight, prove that American floor is cheaper in America
than loses floor is in Inland ?-1 do not think it does, for
the reasons I have already mentioned to the Committee; I
should not be surprised if there was • very conaiderabble loss
on the whole of the imports tutu Liverpool, which I have
already stated.
Is it your opinios, then, that Ireland can now compete
with America the supply of lour to Europe !—Certatuly
not.
Do you happen to know what the priced' American Moor
is in the snooty of that eoudry ?-1 do nut ; bet I under.
'laud the pa ice is very low ;it ions been *Mon at Liverpool
at 425. • barrel, that is equal to about 30s. a sack fqc the
flour fo London.
What could you afford to sell a barrel of Irish floor for
About eight-mid-twenty shilhugs British, cacluxive of the
east of the barrel.
But if the price of American floor is Liserpool is 225. it
0101 of course be ender 225. in Anresies ?—That don not
follow, because it is sort snot wholly as an object of profit ;
frequently with • view to procure freight for other articles.
Hose you soy moron to believe sisal she price of dour its
America is alone 22a. a bind ?—I cannot gnawer at
prettied ; but from the account• 1 sometime siuce had heard
should Mealtime it ',night be about that price.
itul if it is 22s the barrel is is still cheaper than a barrel
of dour iss Ireland ?—Nu doubt of it.
What is the expense of sending a quarter of wheat from '
Dahlia in Liverpool?—lt is •bout six altilliugs a spasttes,,
socluding the charges of sale, &e.
You stated ie your evidence on the 17th of April, that the
twinge prier of the qualm of • heat its Ireland, was now
40.. Irish money ; is out that equal to 375. Euglists money
Jost ab:7111 that.

The price by the loadon Catalfe of the quarter of whew,
that is the price in Fu land soil Wales, is 53.. • quieter ; now
do you account fur the difference between the price of Iri,b
and the price of English wheat, being a difference between
435. for tbe one, and 535. for the other, allowing tir. for
freight ?—The quality tells the differeirce; 1 mentioned in •
my former evidence, that the average quality of to a l tiweer
England and Ireland differed shout three shillings • quar-
ter; that is, after the Isiah had been prepared fir rspurt, au I
the preparation fur export will amount to about seven and a
half per cent. at the present priers of corn; they vary in pro-
portion according as it is dear or cheap.
IN the Irish barley much inferior to the hsrley of England ?
--Yes, it is very inferior ; there is no article of groin that
differs so much in quality from English core as the article
of barley.

Have-you ever compared the Scotch harleY and the Irish
barley'—The Scotch barley is rather better; Irish i■ general
is the inferior barley of the three.
There is some as good barley grown he Ireland as ems he
grown any where, is there not ?—That is very trilling in row•
patio's In the general mass.
I. it your opinion, that if American flour and Irish Gone
were sohject to precisely Ilse same freight,•eed were convey d
to any of the markets of Europe, that the Irish flour could
there compete with the American fluor ? It would nut iii
tieing/pan markets ; I some years inure had a great deal of
American floor, ■sad have hail my oust mansfactuie at the
same lime, and our bakers frequently have Eisele ► pref. r
core to it against the Anieriean; hut ci !thinly the ipia:ity er.
it was as good as wag made in Ireland, as second 0 iur ; but
even so, if sent to a foreign m.lll ket, the Anierican would take
the lead ; we have the prejudice in 1..i.0ur of it to culitthil
with.

Was ant Ameriean filar ,llnwed by the Commissinocri. r.t
Customs to be imported nhout three sears ago, .i.ot
was the coop-garlic, of that t.. the corn and floor of 1.1.16...1 •
—That was one of the severest blowy that the militia oi
ever Rut ; it ruined many families.
Was there arty law to justify or authorise the importation
of Americas flour at that period? —No ; 4 sy.tv a VlOl4llOll
of the law, and without givllle any 1 revinua
By what authority was the flour imported; are you quite
sere it was by the order of the C aiuuera ot Catatonia?
I ant sore it Wag 114.1 by the Consmissionets of
Customs; I believe it was dune by the then thiverumarut of
the country.
You Au sot know by wl.at otiler that flour was admitted?—
Nu.
It was not by an Art of Parliament ?—I don't Iwo.; 11w
order fur the admission was jock Amie; cereoliiiy a wan at
the time well intruded, but most Uestarluutsle its as muse.
winters.
Then in point of fart the I Wert of the order us. In Sas-
pead the law ?,—Yes.
Did yon ever hear of any art to indemnify the 4 Meta.
Wag for that order having been made?—?died Ibis web
place, the harvest previous to it was the must calamitous
that rite happened in the country ; the moaner was very
bad, sad did require the aid of foreign corn to min with it ;
sad it was ow that priw6ple, I presume, that the ports were
opectsito admit foreign flour; there was a prxligi,m, quay.

Entland sad the Peopte.•—•The Fourth Scene, the Hill,
is the coupe of whack the Groad Zaire of the champion.
To condo& milli (!cl terse) a DPW Faces, celled
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lower. firAtte. . *WV
knight, and .
llte Deere le bOOO4/ at ea eat*, lad the Sr-
domaileee to begin at Selma.
&zee. T. ; Sewed Pbke. 3.. S.. 6d. ; Second
Price, is.-4aliert, 2a.• Seeoad Price, la.—Upper Gat.
1ery.11..; Snood Price, 6d.
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.‘• DR. KNOX'S SPIRIT OF DIIIIIIkTFISIC 4 .i'l ualsevime•4l-111-Wolear• Isholuelese people live at I very low fnotio speculating, by keerise bark lois own corn from tkilv? is • ?hour"' oufalbsaareritY'elideeseptering?-iT" I:aitustille'rtti•l4lL-4141;i1;+::
la the press, lowbrow!, printed in em Sea, monimer • ' Mel Weil Isdleill.sieheg It for years, with an extraordinary_ -Many small farmers and pour tamers have threskirdolit
isesur.-• et saw price 10a. Ild. boards, . short crop, mid aprearto pets very high real; but the Nor. their cunt awl earl ice! it to market; bait I know very' art, degree, regulates tee price of the other. .
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Leaden : Origisally printed 1791; reprinted by William Vibes you speak of forty bilabials an acre, to what extent have !Inn kind ',moo o:o to 4b inn& payniend of the rests, - Mills, 1 die Mali, 1821. , -
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Gone, 45, Ludgale-hill, 1821. of correct should .nu apply lisal ?..-1 apply it also to the sea who have met thrashed out n hsuelful. honor Comey. Eng. cifirMa• crafted in and erairlatiall
r. rout of Sussex ;I do wet konw any land more productive Du you consider that the cores see kept tack, readies to
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Li .M 7 TON, Stockalle• ker, 9, Cornhill, and tarts- . . --.
thantke edge./ the Soath•Domma, the varies swat so the stre•• any great mount iu quantity ?-Yes; 1 think fu 1 vere You were waked, on 'nor essm•ustien, respeetine oge
'e ir bard-street, legs leave to recommend to his hest it is the tint tuft t_ahall._?sagett.,_.lll Nerves" in Boras,' t mad' great amount. poses of 11116 creamery to cstieprte with America in thy ar-
cs Friends, the Public, the Scheme of the I GRAND _.,_._°° early "'reea'"'"°'7,„
greener 1 productive; there is less
'• MONEY LOTTERY, 'sleek commences &anise 30,11 ..11W ntiONI it, II ND greener fit ie the least subject Wm% duty, from speeolatieg in foreign corn,
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oah.riiy..,itinisuct•otualsodd. ii.the).,oirri.ren, irf :.lure
,uponaipu ..telastinil„, ~„.t Lt.:
' ! NEXT MONTH (October) There are Three Prises of dew ; corn list ripe" tmeis isso4drom subject Ito mildew, his money in the purchase of that runs
• 30,000/. Money, besides Thirty other grand Prizes or 0,9004. Du you imagine, that the low discouraging prier amen ing nf?-11 hardly knee, fur 1 sppreheml the specentoor in tiesio fluor upon these roma:sues ; America po sus a pro-
- LOON. Ike. &c. Each Ticket detioks in owe false-No for the last year haa Warted the sowing this 'prise ?-41re, fourien eon is looking to a double market ; that die man digieota aeleentrige over es our respect of tetielel, so nook
4, Classes-and the old grand system revived, of Dot Two Ido not think it bee ; I Maki, if is woe to easiti,mennotiber who buys Goren corn Wen the chime of the paws being too, that at nay' mills, furry-fear miles (sum Delano, +kith
n Blanks to • Prize, year, it would ; because, I thigh, a ease deal of land would everted here, and if they are not, is in lowly transferred are %soy raleeisne, stud from o hick three ism water earns e•
over to some other rafts of tearer ; therefore I thirst the the shut- of the way from. tine mill Josef to Doblos, 41 .
I, EYTON being so etnifident that it wallies such general be thrown up to the landlord, dad sot cultivated at all,
Would-emit Am altterglefelte be. a greet delleincy in the erreilatun in ()reign epos; who are generally men of large which inter Carriage has cuss at kiwi in0,00(1( (I:.e Grand
I, satirfaction to the rattler •I large, that he anticipate, there
produce of thin colliery below its consumption ?--I have ow capitals, do it with a kellanriale, SIIII 'UM IttektoB tusretY to
mCanal
jaogi
lc ,17,:i :filo: treflha.
earllii knism33; isinfiriotlepttne:
tAtarenniloid:„. ibileciliTer; oeutbrs.i.apiatstt;:(p6ooinealijorar.ristior
st-
will he a great rise in the Fries of Tickets and Shores, there-. .
fore he recommends weedy purchase. . &oda the produce aught greatly lessen ; kut whether below une market. ~,,sir •essies'it n., •
i ' ErPOS, la the last Lottery, was particularly fortunate, its„elmtumPli" I ea° haed, tr°,_.__ .8' „
~.,, Brarine this in your reeeilleetiewidmyeio ism emateirro AO,
6.1 jk,voir am 2,222. a "'fir of 7,50014 2,021, am; besides IS there rot an idea Moat tae mew ice (resat Bellew goes with reference to the essesseimplion of tins forestry, nod **rise lower freight than it can be
re oiler/coral minor Capitals. . lot Pros/oar leeriest Mom thiliSeells by IWlSlnissitha emmensfo. is peter. is this cennotryi they meted still epecolete iogthe mill) use Dublin.
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lien ?-.That does nut appear to be else ease the Iwo last corn you have described as being retateedio Moo tomb of
erg'
orwAst:traA7:7;txticreeaaporttaiof.lbLe.ifreiviaighehroot
pudoir!,:_sou:Lki.onwprocwelui
;,..hoka:nipill.ii:erie:sor
I:easp.a:norrbo:troLe
rise kit Business in the Public Feuds transacted with
ildefilwOuid dimmer*. years; their has hen very blue foreign eons brought in, the farmer?-1 think they might, tees consist dILVISS.
r- Do you thick, if the low price of torn continues, it will To whatever degree that epreelasiou was maimained, 'do
soothf al
Iry lyilieraras 4;
:leer I theli 111, 010 nulf4ft February, a a 'lll'B lc:, "ergs:o.4:ol;u:
'' prevent sprier sowing, and shorten very mach the produce son not conceive that it would be an eneourageoneut to the
reign wheat soot forearm A roe i and by a 'Menu I Imre (stn
a AC:Ric:UV/V*4 L REPOIIT. of the country?-No doubt of it, if it continues; but not farming interest?-Nu doubt "'Jul it.
1. this year. What coonskin id Europe, besides great Britain, are par.
And make aa applicatios to foreign onantries for croon chasers of gain ?-1 believe there is a great pianist) of grain, Livo rpuol, of the sit Mouths ending
Extract from the Evidence annexed to the Re-
room necessary'.
-!t must depend moos the length of time this time, shipping fur Italy.
floure
is wont ioi eiiel:e'll lint Ittahrd sir
port of the Select Committee of the Rimer of fur which low prices nominee; if throe- low int coatinie "You have s okra of curs brio in the lose& of wealth
- Commons open the Agriculture of the United fur s year or two, there will tar. Mil hoeurass quantity of Load farmers; is this molly thrashed or usitheaslotd !eel's!
trcinisBhan°l::liboaltahrde° a lit mitai glee
t o"l estrsitatet.wierfaed:::•;7sg,tei4y7asea:,2brfl'l:lr.fprt,uteatiheliacelea.7osetsa3thios:iktieeievreslttiMual.:gel. Kingdom. put out of cultivation. thrashed; it is in she straw.
I, Them that wi•l render the country mere dependant on Can any farmer keep a considerable quantity of corn in for a market.
forego' nations for her supply ?-0( mime that mum be the the straw without great injury ?..41 mirk be mans; the THuow sealmcm:dr:4.4m dhoaußnifpuriiiittuidshritehiaine:aalblyargrod?-maTkoethuepotnre,stite4l:doist
* Vetter*, 6 die Alvin., 1821.
nee, if the land goes out of cultivatioo; corn must be eons wastes considerably witb vermin. Coloides, generally, I believe.
THIOM4II SMIERI.OOK Gooch, Esq. in the Chair• brought in so feed the people.
Can you state what %Nastily of free funistv erns was leA Can he spare the straw ? -There is his greatest difficulty.
Du you think the corn wastes more in the straw than -AErieghtleitiosilliailbliziss,
licoani;als to olo:ch you refer ?--'
Edward Wakefield, Earl. again called in sad eemalistef.
o•
produce, per acre. on hand, when the purls were open, in 1819 ?-The foreign when it it thrashed?-Nn ; 1 have seen core laud oat in gee- Are
mile, by the ton ?-I cannot poecisely
Can you form any isles of Ilac fle cern trade lam not emicereed in; being greatly occupied wanes annihilated, picked net with pick.axes, if it lies two Th;vyhaartea.re
they
I" in wheat and barley, upon all land now soder tillage?-1
have rimmed au opinion certainly ;itis a subject that I have ;11 I°lli°ll hl°4l, ' ,s,°4l
of ?eutieut." estates; 1 seldom years; it depends upon the mune aud upon the way in
which it was laid op. British corn ',seldom bought for tell; is is either 201. or 3d, a ton per mile ; beet, hoarser, the
been thinking of for many years; it is a general question, have an nPP°''unYo' a""'" a c""'"'"'"•
d difficult to be answered with any minatimese : 1 think the
years, Irish floor ?-Considerably cheaper.
Yams know, probably, that there Is as present • eptantity of speculation on this accusal ; there is no such business par- emu/your° is atilt cheaper thau tarot corsage.
free foreign corn it the amities ?-Not in the home market; seed.
HiseAreasoericout thea AliguerrircaborasPean aiduveljutleirteP"ovierllhriselayneda, (lel:
opinion 1 have formed, agrees with that of doe lam Mr.
1 have heard that there is a great deal seder the Kieg's locks Are you not aware that rich farmers have, of late
,?. Artloor Young, that the average of England does nut exceed
fut the f weirs market. hoer in the habit of plaeieg their grain is granaries ?-1
17 bushels of wheat per acre ; the difference in lbe produce
by
having ad vs
utta
You han heard there is • queutity under lock of that have um known It.
of land, to the rye apparently of the same mistily, in co. the node of packing their flour?--A cottaidtrable adr 1-
If
the
else
in
toe
Price of
ears,
deFeetiell
ePee
the
defi"
oletglicericoAumeteryfieien rhesapes act "ofnasuidnerni,
lour and texture, in the west and in the east uf Enelane, hettught ill ill 1819?-8° I I've heard•
advantage over twer
Do you think the imponation of 1819 was rendered ae. elency in the growth at home, would not the (welter corn
t, is quite extraordinary ; land which I have examined, par.
r- titularly its Devonshire, which, from its appearance, 1 should erlimrB by the "We", ill the borne growth in 1818 ?-I der now warehoused have an lasnordiale effect upon the home tells, another adveastage, it cast be shipped on board a vessel
rate to be almost of as good quality as say I hare ever mot think the crop of 1818 • large crop; hoot Iby as means market, so as to prevent its rising to Mat intent, at the wills the most valuable merchsediee, without any danger of
w
_ seen, does not produce au ge
bushels; land of she same appearance, oo the sea coast al early part of the season was that of an Wrest total failure, would lower the pries of corn. Yore flour 1•14111 in seeks? II is - ,in general • but if we
bat tbe straw produced greatly. Would it before the pores upeaed, or afterwards .-/tied Norfolk, Suffolk, Essex, end Kent, is !bought to give aexport it to a foreign market we * '
would pork it into barrels.
itlf land is throne out of cultivation, in the way staled in the prices ruse to he so soar to the opening the poets, it
bad crop if it does not produce forty bushels. Does not the circumstance. of American flour cosmog to
a late montioa, will sot that have the effect of raising the would have sis effect upon the market, entaialy. the United Kingdom,
Are you raffitintly acquainted with the eastern port of notwithatauding she expenses of
Price of con in the home market ?-1 think is most. In penning •• rise to that price at which the ports would
II the kingdom, to give the Committee •any idea of what the refreight, prove that American floor is cheaper •
in America
Most it not rise to above 80a. before it can, ender the open ?-Certainly, -
average produce per acre, is in that quarter?-Speaking than leash Hoer is iii Inland ?-I do not think it does for
merely of theses coast, which is almost the best and highest Present blare be Imported ?--No doubt of It. Would not that be one beneficial effect under she present the reason. I have already mentioned to the Committe'
e • I
cultivated land in England, the avenge crop is very little Is it possible that Hoe fanners to continue to pay their law, to the-British grower, strasesucts as is would *hot out should not be surprised if there oarn a re, • '
y considerabble loss
present rents, tithes, taxes, and poor's rates. at the low pries both the foreign stuck of earn es band heir, mid preveut a short of forty bushels au acre. I speak of Kent, Eon, an& on the whole of the imports into Liverpool, which I have
e folk, and Norfolk. of nem which they now have.-1 thiuk out. fresh impartial ion fur the home market ?-Nu doubt of it. already sieleg.
g What should yore state as the average of the Wolof of Must not the extensive purchases made of ((weir, corn, in What would be the immediate effect us the market, if lbe Is it your °pieties, then, that Ireland can now compete
ro loose commies ?-111ocii less; I mean Ito speak of a marrow the years 1817, 1818, aud 1819, for 0 very moosiolerabie time, ports should open with a large quantity in warehouse ?-lt with America ii the supply of lour to Europe' C
.- crtaluly
E district of superior qualify. I should suppose thin quarters diode", the venal purchaser, of British eons from dealing so would co eate a cousiderable fall in rice, certainly. net•
ao saw the average produce of floe imerica, and di very largely with the British grower as they otherwise would have I Would out that depend urea the deficiency ?-No doubt Do you happen to know what the price of American flour
to light parts of Norfolk much len thou that 1 should think ; 41••• ?-lt most Imes some effect, but whilst the price • of it. is is the utJuey of that musky ?-1 do nut ; hot I under.
6 flatware souse parts of Norfolk too tight to attempt to grow oars is so mach below that which will open the purls, I can Would there not be. provided the prins nose to wady stand the pa ice is very low ;it bas been *elleng at Liverpool
whilst at tilt upon there. • net suppose it to produce a great deal. 111° Pike of opening, a rest emarelilies betweeiltbe Power et 421. • barrel, that is equal to Mount 30s. akf the
- What should yen ante as the average predate of the light Nast not a market, In be a good market, be &Isar moth mod the speculator, use to firms plie market to aorta lke dour to Loudon, ge
as mlustutof • owenin degree or specodstiens; and not merely pone, and the other to lower the market to keep them abon, 4 and cold clay lands, of which you bore spokes. u !duty to go I What could nu afford to sell a barrel of Irish flour for
oat of nolfintiou ?-Ahout twelve bushel* Per acre of wheat. •• market of supply from hand to mouth ?-lerfre specula- end SO a great dell rae false specutatiou be occasioned ?..-1 About eight-sod-twenty shillings British, exclusive uf the
Muss uot the cultivation of the better soils be modelled tore coming low a market, of course must increase the think there most likely would. coot of the barrel.
' terinitely less profitable, by she increase of burden thrown Vire, but it strikes me the best speculator to keep corn for Du you know bow lung any of the hest foreign corn that But if the price of American flour it Lieer is 241. it
a
upon them, by being obliged to maintain those who have Great Britain is the wealthy farmer, who keeps it is the you have seen, will keep, whets warehoused !-No; Ino not must of course be under 275. in Ames ie.. ?—Thin dues Hot
heretofore been used to be maintained by their employments straw, and that 1 know Su be the ease; at the present me. know enough of the busbies, of the Arnim' corn dealer. follow, because it is sent sent wholly as an obj
ect of profit ;
7
on worse soils ?-There is uu doubt, if the people are lakes meal 1 know ma"Y large (amen, who base not Illormilsed oat In your opinion, is she capital employee in laud dimi. frequently with • view S. procure freight fur whet admire.
• single handful, who will not sell at the present prices. nishleg?-1 think it is warthog wry moth.
off the poor soil and pus on to sty other, the Insides of Haug you may reason to bedtime that liar price of Imo iu
maintaining the transfer of mirk a population, must greatly Do you not conceive it would be • great advantage to the Do you Mob it hae already so mach diroinislacel as to ist- America is shore 225. a barrel ?-i cannot answer at
ierresse the charge spun the land moon which is has fallen. country if there were encouragement given to warehouse jure the agriculture of the eirootry ?-1 think it has, to a pretest ; but from the account• 1 sometime since Lad heard
Thee the cultivation of land altogether most be reduced home coos instead of foreign cure?-It is, 1 think, an hypo- ratan degree. I &humid imagine it might be about that prim
to wicerminty ; the Mat land going oat of cultivation thetical ease; hut arlasittiug such a circumstance to take Da you not think that if the present low prices of corn But if it is Its the barrel 11 is still cheaper than a barrel
t'" last ?-Se via the march of liminess! ruin, it will begin place, na immediate benefit to the farmer would accrue, but were to continue, very seines in our must arise to the agri- of dour in Ireland ?-Nu doubt of it.
11. wish the poor laud, and according to its gnality, if it is to Ido not know the means of keeping corn for a great Inglis tudinre of the nanny ?-1 have we desist of it. What is the expense of sending a pouter of wheat from '
- go on, the best laud will be the last to go out of cultintioa. of time. DU you not suppose she pectoral price to he, in a great Dublin to Liverpool ?-lt is about sox sliilliuga a gumbo,
Must it not in that ease be iegulatell by population ?- Do you think it would he worth the while of any Reithoh degree, the effect of the very showdant hornet of the last including the charges an U f lA. e, 's. -
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Population most produce a considerable effect upon it ; but farmer to attempt tie warelneuse British (-urn when he can year, soperaddrd to the good banns of the year precediug ? You stated in your evidence on the 1711, of April, that the
1 think this is arguing on an i x none nee. puschssr foreign corn at ro much lower a price, and ware. -I thick that hat bad • real effect, but by uu meats, the aver age prier of the Tenter of • heat is Ireland, was now
se Has or has not the agriculture a such parts of the king- house it ?-1 thiuk it quite worth while for any farmer to only one. 40a. Irish money ;is tut that squat to 375. Enlists money ?
t" dom as you are mcguaisiteel with deteriorated within Ilse last warehouse his corn in his stacks at this time, if I may be What is your opinion with reopen to the present corn Jost abut that.
• two years ?-1 think it has obvieusly deteriorated sheet the allowed to use the term. law, as • pruiectiou or the famine, 1-11 must act as • pro- ori e .
o price by the tondo. Cazalte of toe quarter of whew.
e, year 1814, since the fall ; not merely the last two years, but What possible motive could the farmer have al any lime section to him, menial!.
that is the price in Elegised onel Wales, is 53.. • quarter ; inns
I- since the bed times occurred in 1814. to uarebonsie the produce of his farm, in an expensive Do you mean a sufficient protection ?-if it should raise
do you account for floe differeace between the price of Irish
Did it not recruit donee the year 1817 arid part of 1818; warehouse belonging to aatoiller penile, with all the charges she price of corn op to 101. a bushel, or 80s. a quarter, 1
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and me price G11(11011 lineal, being • difierruce between U -Yes; I think that as the times were better the fanners had upon it ?-1 never heard of a farmer attempting that. thuds the farmer wuukl du very well at that price.
431. fire the une and 535. few the other, allowing loos
for more means, and were returning so their old system of colli. II is sat possible, if at any time corn in this country Do you Honk it will produce that effect ?-No; Ido not • • . ' .
lerizlit ?-7 he quality fella the doffeleoice; I ass.
sit • i venom, which is better than the one they are now pursuing; beeline so extremely cheap that the farmer did out thick it think it will.
toy former evidence, that the +umpire quality afro A !e'en*
as the timers were crippled in their means, they farmed proper to bilge it so masks, provided be could do without Can it produce any effect if we grew one own econsuinp-
England and !relied differed shout Ili hit the money it would produce at market, to keep that eorn tier ?-1 apprehend, is that case, any law of the sort would tee ' "ngs • 'PE"'
worse, no doubt. .
F Does not the productivenena of land depend more upon and not send it to market• rather thee 1.1 send it 10 • be a mollify. ter; that is, after the Irish had been prepared for export, au I
the capital and skill employed in the cultivation of it, uses,glutted and too cheap a market?-There are mauy now who If wedu not grow our own consumption,(mold it then be the preparatouu for export will amount furlong seven mid a
upou the soil itself ?-I have no oloolit *bum it, hermit, a du so; I know many individual, who are acting upon that • sufficient protection ?-1 think, if weibil not grow our own half per cent. at the present priees of talc; they vary in pro-
is skilful fernier etth capital well pay rent where another will at this as mine consumption, it wooishl have lee immediate effect of raising portion according as it is dear or cheap.
i pay none. Is there auy thing to prevent s farmer warehousing his Ike pi ice of wheat to 1106. Is the Irish barley much inferior to the harley of England O
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' 'Fhe production depends more upon the copilot expended "en at this mow's' ?-I hardly know how a farmer ran What would be its subsequent effect on the market ?---So -Yes, it is very inferior ; there is rin article of groan that
~ than it does upon the •oil '-I do not think that exactly ; warehouse his corn; it is mu extraordinary circumstance for hung so there Wan s deficiency of crop to maintain the roue- differs so mach in qualify from English corn as the article
‘''' suit is the foundatiou of every thing, I thick capital applied a farmer to lay up his corn after it is thrashed ; and I should fry, the price would be kept up, I suppose, to the price of of barley-
no longer call hien a fanner, hut a eorn merchant. import. Have you ever compared the Scotch barite and the Irish
to soil create,. rust reduction.
barley.-The Ite barley 's
0 The question refers 10 the British mereliant attempting la nut a price exceeding 80s. held by the Legislature to he,each I rather better; Irish in general
Where capital i• employed 1111 middling soil, would that
0 to speculate in British con' instead of foreign corn, sod as she law now steeds, the evidence of a deficiency for the is the inferior bar of the three. soil produce. wills great capital and skill, more thaw the
There is ley
0 warehourine that article?-That must entirely depend on aupply of the consumptien of the county ?-I should consider some as good barley grown in Ireland as coo he
List soil without ? -The "my fain•st soils are cultivated at
0 , least the opinion the individual may form, and gloat lee suppose* Ilse Act of the Legislature to mean so, certainly. • grown any where, is there mil ?-That is very teething in euni•
the expense as far as collie...lion goes; but frequently
orequire the greatest cap will be the on same
price of corn sae time hence. Is nut the effect of the law, in a case where there is a del- Past"' to the general mass.
What extent of such ands as will do with small capital
0 ital per acre.
Are you of 'opinion, that if a well fonnetril opinion pre. cient trim, such as immedimely to create a fell in the prire ; la it your opinion, that if American flour and Irish Sao.
0 and small exertions is there in the kingdom ?-Nut a great average wailed that British cons, the av of 'obeli is •Isout end that the consequence must 11., that the smaller the crop were subject to precisely Ike same freight, road were convey d
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means an ortion rop by y . fifty-futtr shillings, would ride tweuty-five per cent. within uf the farmer, the lessprice will he receive for his grain?-- 6/1 any of the markets of Europe, thst the Irish flour nu id
Must it, with the torrent prices paid fur t.ri Sib. inevitablyh, would0 I p
the next twel -s,
It would not i
0 ensue, that there must he a great decrease of production,--. sapit3l or specultiti ....coin?- , for the purchase of British that price. tieing/pan markets; I some year. some had a great deal of
0 I have no doubt of it; with a continuntwo of those prices • NO; I have ate doubt there would be pleuty of buyers if How then does the law operate as a protection to the American floor, and have had my own manafactuie at the
0 great deal of lend will be thrown out of occupation. they were confident of felting such a profit. farmer, in the case of • short trop?-1 apprehend it aria in MOM time, awl our baker. frequently have gi,eu • pre( r
0 - A rise of tweniy.five per cent on fifty-four, would bring this ray, that whenever there is a deficient crop, the price once to it against the American; bus co noisily the opia:ity ef
they are ?-Yes ; I hare no doubt cf it. Must nee the production &creme if the pekes remain as
the price of B•• s li curu to sixty-ince and sixpence, would must come up to 80s. before any Cosign cure car be thsown ot wall asgood as Iraq Made ill Ireland, as second 0 our ; hot
nut the price of wont,
ape. O into the market to reduce it. eons so, if sent to • foreip masked, the American would take
n youbelievethat great produce ofl it sins ?
the ate crop--Yes-
-s0 ,„ Do theAt sixty-seven and rixpenee would not the person so Was eat, in the years 1819 and 1819, the lead ;we have the prejudice in ('sour of at to contend
ren any oceans of producing the present low prices?--
9 I amok the geueral average stole of last year was so great, relating wish British corn, still retails the monopoly of the considerably higher then it is now?-Considerably higher; with.
that it has hod a very great effect throughout the kingdom; home market, as 'railed fureiga corn :-Certainly. the gust fall has been since this harvest. Was not American flint ,slowed by she Commissiniocr, et
Then would it not be a much more advantageous and safe Was out there during the whole of 1818, and the early part Customs to he imported about thr .e t 5 1 ”11111 ago, soo a *I
there are massy districts, however, where there was hardly
any crup,
speculation at the present mien, should there loe a prospect of 1819, an unlimited 111111061 of foreign corn, to a very great I was the coaseguence of that too she corn am, 11,,,1e of 1,,i,,,..1 -
Du you mean to say, that Hoe crap of lost year was uni. of a rise in the commodity, to speculate in British corn, amount ?-1 apprehend there was • very considerable ins- -That was one of the s 5 Melee that the militia id lit.
smelly good?-Generaliy speaking, I think it far beyond which enjoys the 'monopoly of the market up in eighty Ail- purl, but I sin not master of the details. I land ever gut ;it ruined many families.
an average crop; I !brisk it uue of she greatest crops of lines, rather than in (mirage corn, which moot be admitted MCP 1101 it follow, that that Cortege' import did not pro. Was there any law to justify ser suthorise the impottat mu
0 curu England has ever known. in at all, until an uncertain and indefinite period at which the duce the effect of throwing down the price below 808.?-11 of Alpenela flour at that period ?-Nsi ; dwe,' a 61014.40,,
0 pre. price may exceed eighty gs abillin?-1 think that would de- bad not that effect certainly at the time. of the law, and without giving any jrevinus notice.
As you have staled what you consider the average
duce of wheat per acre throughout the kingdom ; can you pend opens whit price he call buy foreign corn abroad for. Do you thahk that a year ever occurred, in which the By what imiliority was stir Rom imported ; are you quote
0 slate to the Comeliest, e what the leverage produce is sin the s Wuoild it mit also oleiwud upon Ilseas probability of that price of wheat w quoted at 80s. ml home, in which the sure it Wall by the order or the oserre rs niasioue ot coetuitiss
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very best land you know?-When I said forty bushels an foreign turn twine otlerns'ible s'ilbi° some limited period to deficiency in the general growth was not such, that you -No; lan sere it was met by the Cunansiashoirt• of
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acre, I was sprakiuo of a district that I consider sins only the
.liritosh market ?-Nu doubt. could nut possibly estimate the extent of real profit to the C nouns"; I believe it was dense by the theu tioveramarut of
0 the best soil in Englaud, but in the highest state of culii- 't hos mopposiug the probability to be against the prices farmer ?-I remember 'time yeses befure the fall ire the cur. the country,obring such as to admit foreign tuna to the British market for rency, when with abundant crops we averaged a real deal I You du not know by what order that flour was admitted?-
ration, farmed with With skill 111111 capital.
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What is the average Produce on the very 'worst land two years to come, as it his been excluded fur two years auw more thin 80s.; they were not defective years ;it was thou Nu.
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• which you know to be in cultivation •-
• • ' ;1 do not believe that gone be ; which du you think would be She wisest specula- that land attuned its highest price ; that the abundant pro. 11 was not by an Act of Parliament ?-I deo% hamar; the
o lion, to purchase British curio at fifty-four, or furrier, cons duce of the earth sold at the peke of a deficient one, I Oink order fur the admission was ondeS•111r; eftla...ly .1 was at
1 the very pour lands produce above eight bushels per acre.
he What is the steamily of aced sown upon such ground as at 111111 y-five, with a view to the British market ?-British owing to the increase of the circulating medium. the time well intruded, but 01011 untarionsaie on its rouse-
i'or • that ?-The poorer she loud, the greater quantity of 'tad •es
curet, beyond a dunbt. Do you think that the price of 275. fur oats, which is 41"e11ees-
-4' i required; the rinsioliiv of seed must be, upon the poorest Have you nom reason to believe, that there will be such • fixed as the average iii the present corn law, is iu proportion Then in point of fact she . reef of ilie order use In Sita-
rs. i soils• rather *hoer three linsleels *bap below; upon the good rise in the price of corn as that supposed in the question ?- to the price of wheat and other gran ?-I think it hardly pead the law ?-Yes.
My opinion 11, that there will no! ;my °pillion is, that there is', the common calculation has been, übat hurley should Did you eve,- bear of any act to indemnify the t; mein-
" (land nut above two.
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-- Theo the balance of production would be only fire is more core in the kingdom at this reasonl of the year than bear half the price of wheat, mod oats something less, not mem for that order baring bre,. trade?-Motu riso took
bY i hieshel,?-Yeli. then, is in many years immediately after the harvest. equal lo the rice of barley; I think 275. is too low fur oats, place, the harvest previous in it was the moat calamitous
"ie I Du you believe any man, but a mail man, would sow You speak of cure the growth of Great Britain or Ire- I should Hey 355. list ever happened in the country ; the poultice was eery
to wheat a second lime upon that ground ?-I think any person I laud ?-Yes. st I
who lewd his reason would mot. Nut including the warehoused con ?-No. gel:Heti by the price of oats, from the circumstance of the and it W 46 on that prise:4,le, I presume, that she peal "Vele
Mu not the market for barley be in a great measure re- bad, and did require the aid of foreign cores to mix with it ;
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Do yin think any farmer in the kingdom could make the De nut you think the farmer is prevented by his &arca distillery who are considerable purchasers of the iuferier erred to admit foreign Fone; there was a ratite:es oust.