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fan 1, Ile would state the circurnstancos. ht was
....II known that to nutionit list they had suffered
In that part of the country--
Mr. BANKEs ii.terrupted the lion. Gentlemurs
rind yoke to order, and mgmitast x 'node so coutrary
to Vie usual nr.ictices of the House.—(Cries of "Go
I n, go on !")
fhe or LONDONDERRY objected to going
on inihe absence of the Eight Hon. Secretary•for
lretind, led except he were in his plaice the Gouge
1...5a no fair chance 01 underatiulding the question.
Sir E. O'llittxo (being now called on by several
voicet) said, that the subject oGthe evening was in-
t i!a..tely connected with the communication. lie had
to rwake.--(" Go on!" and cries of " Order !")
rlte Martini% of LONDONDERRY said that his
Friend would certainty be here in the
1..,0ige of the evening, slid then the lion. Wilma
ws•ght snake his statement.
tSir E. o'3atert said that he would take his
cippoitunity io the course of the evening.

diets/bed; yet his letters now iitforeeed him, that in tomes-
quince of-the extreme privation ender which they were suf.
firing, depredations had began • lend that nol • nicht rimeeo
in which persons nese not pliesidered of sonic patiourof
whatever provisions they might have is tint( possession;
sod the chief Magistrate cirt he police bad told him, that
if they were PO rum.riit every venue charged will, .crating
provisions the caul. would not hold them. Were api ople
who had pima' their peaceable diemmitiou, and their reve•
Imace fur the laws, to be left to the miseries of famine?
Were they lobe furred into the commiesioo of crime as tire
only alternative of relieving their sufferings t There weie
no people so charitable as the people of
were so people so ready to sympathise with the sufferuNts,
and to bold out relief to the diet, of others; and would
they not williegly extend their aid to the wants of their suf.
feting fellownohjeet• ?
Mr. W. BECH ER shortly hurt his testimony to the
fidelity of tbe portrait drawn by the Huuowrable Bsrconet
who preceded him, of the conduit/a uf that part of Ireland
to which lie bele...rob
Mr. GOV LBURN, as We understood, expressed his sur-
prise at the manlier to which the Government had been tall.
ed on to captain the rae which had been taken, or
which it might be nit oiled to lake, for the relief of the suf.
peeing population of !related H. dad been to comma
conimunieetion with the Hon. Samuel on the subject since
his arrival in town. and the lion Baratta mud have buuwn
that if he bad nut al once taken the course of au applicaltuo
to Parham rat 00 the subject, it was not from any want of
attention tin the part of the Goeerioneut of Ireland, ur Goon
the absence of • proper sympathy fur the distresses of the
maple, but from the coterie' ion that to bring the subject
Outer public discussion, before the Governmeat await leave
satisfied itself as to the beat mode of affording re lief, aud the
extent of the relief required, could only teod to aggravaie
the cal by increasing the embarrassment in which the sub.
jert was placed. It was necessary that the Governmeot
should first loran uncertain to what earnt it was possible to
carry say plas for relief, and also to what estate it ass as
rosary to go. And ales lie ruled that the first eralasale
represented the amount of relief required for the county of
Clare •loue at four hundred thousand pounds,,,it would
be seen ilia the Govern's. tit had acted rightly is refracting
from the lusty adoptioa of sup measure which might have
the effect of encouraging sundae deinseidi from ether parts
of the country. It was perfectly true that in some parts
of the country the crops of potatoes hail failed, but there
were many parts in which there was a to believe that
they had not suffered, and that ite some parts the cora crops
hail been abundant. Arid although potatoes, in that part of
the ceuutry to which the Hoe. Bamoet belonged, were ex-
travagantly high in price, yet the House would be surprised
to hear that oatmeal was as a very low price; fur attliosigh
lime might have been a rise within a few days of fir. per
get , yet he knew that rip to flee middle abut week it was
at 12%. per cwt. When Mr. Warbooluo p emoted ie
Dublin the representatives of the Magistrates of the (mo-
difier. of the coolly of Clore, be was charged by the
Gera amain to ration to that county, and ascertain to what
extent die gentry of tie counts might be disposed Mame
foreard to afford relief to the 'offering population, that that
might be made the measure of the relief each would be ate
forded by the Government. He (Mr. C.) had received that
,running from the Loral Lieutenant accounts adenine of the
return of that gentleman to Dublin, sod that the
Guveru-
meol were, therefore, sow ahie to comet* some midair:Pa
as to the degree of relief which it might be proper to epos,-
tient. The state of Intend was wodoehtedly greatly to be
deplored, and would to God the Government had it It their
power to 'relieve the people trace lim whole pressure of the
distresses cutler which they were suffering! That was be-
yond the power of the Government, but it had Jotted As a-
ttains to the consideration of the best mesas of spplyitig, to
the utmost extent edits means, that relief which it might be
is its poser to
Sir E. O'BRIEN explained, that his object was that Go.
remora should advance a sum of money to be applied to
the relief of the country, oe the serail of the toll-gates,
sad that the advance shooed be repaid by a road rate.
The Ord. r of the Day baying been read, the House re.
sated itself into• Committee, sod
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY rose for the propose
of calling the attention of the Committee to the considers.
tins of the Report on the table. Before he proceeded to
stale the particulars of the
pope to the Committee, growing out of that Report, he felt
that it was necessary, for the purpose of making himself
understood as to the mode of relief which the Government
had to propose, to cell lice attention' of the Committee to the
siatare of the distress for which a remedy was sought. He
hoped aud believed that the distress whirl, now pressed upon
tin eountey was em.fined to its agriculture; and he did pro.
mile Weise' that the gement state of the country might he
regarded as prosperous, exclusively of its Berkelium It
was consolatory to him to be borne Men in that eata-
ble hope by the continued prosperity of the revenue. The
cuceremeo were demi!, aware, that in the last quarter
there was se Increase of 400,000/. as compared with the c.o.
responding quarter of fat year; and in the last three weeks
of the present quarter, the revenue bail steadily risen at the
mu at/110001.a week. With respect to the mode of relies-
lag the distress of the agricultural part of the community,
lie begged to adhere lu the same opinion which he had before
exprossed, that those distresses arose out uf causes that
were not within the reset) of legislative remedy ; they arose out
of the state uf the markets, and the depression of prices, and
until the evil had itc some degree corrected itself by the supply
being regulated by the demo* any attempt to legislate in
the way of remedy most fell uf its object. When he a ferred
to the Honourable Member for Purtarlington (Mr. Ricardo),
it would be felt that he lied high authority io support of his '
opinion, that the mostion of taxation, as a measnre of
relief, could only affect the consumer, and consequently
'could truly affect the agrienlintist ion common with other eon-
maciers,and in the &Tier to which he was a consumer; and
•Ilhertiet a reductloo of taxation might operate in some de.
grew as cipalliat mu, it 'mild he in lb, highest degree fella-ions
to rely On it a. a remedy fur the distr ease. of the agriculturist,
mid he did believe that it wa the crook-lion of ibe farmer.
themselves thou4bout the country, Iliac the Lea•latere, elfin
Ullman up the whole taxation of due country altogether,
could set remove the cause of the pre saute under which
they laboured. Admitting the alp of 'Airtime such
relief as was possible, by any collateral measure, it become
Iltare•teltoosider how far any descripiern of advances which
Its House might think it advisable to sanction, could be
made available to the tt lief of the •griestlisirist. Then
was a way which bad been suggested, uf advancing
rosary to parishes on the security uf the poor rata.
He had os a former tom anted that as one of
the measures which had been tinder slur consideration of
auverusneui, and vs the only one which at that lime appear.
ed to be practicable. He had also slated that consideraWe
-objections might be made to it, and that he the refute lashed
bdep It ors) for further reineideejetion. He thought it his ,
dirty now to apprise the Committee, that the difficulties
had been found to prepouderste, and that Government slid
tut row mean In make any proposal of that nature.
There eras Reuther proposition, each was that which he
was Roe about to submit ; which was to advance capital fur I
the ref of of per.ehe holding possession set British cure, on
depdsiting hCis wareireases. He had before 'Ailed that "d-
-amsel% of esphal at all ought if possible to he 'voided, hot
that cireasastene es weight Occur 10 render diem necessary.
The resew proposition had not proceeded from him; his
prepaiteus had beim rejected ; but lie had felt it his duty to
brim: it hotrod in cumpliasee with the recommendation of
the Conineittee ; sod a strung additional muter with Lim
wes, that lee underetood this pia o-ition to ler one to whirl,
the fermis themselves looked as a so-sure s.f tither
If be looked upon it as • memo, ehich he expected to
hear it described, calculated to raise the 'Tice of corn, he
would on so account base brought it focused. But be
looked open it as nut tending he any degree to lone that
effect, but rattly ePtelliPled 110 relieve the market, so as to
place the buyer and seller or a fair (mama of competition.
Ifs effect would NOE be ho rase the prices to an unnatural
bright, but to diateihnie the supplies more r (rally over the
demand of the year, sod to prevent the iticonvetrieure of
Dim aupply at the eurimiartement of the year, amid deletion,
afttrwrods. It wee possible that It might not be as operative
' Mensal e. If people did vat believe that the glut at the early
Pia of the year was umitunnel, and that prom woad be
*leer at the latter end of the year, nu person would choose
to 'what k in the apt allelic's, minty because the opera toot ty ,

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for doing so was off, id Lim If the-refute his measure
should hams tio results, it would at least be fee C am harm.
il was Mir from which the feeiners anticipated coasiderahle
benefit, anal :f the House should think prover not to adopt
it, they would continue to think thief they rich' hitee
derived hum it some relief. He should by tad by bare to
Coll Illeir restraint's to the funds out of which such advsaces
initial be made; but there were other matters of the same
'mime to %Pitch Government hail nee, oo ,? oo 11Y turned its at-
tention, IT the Hon. Baronet on the other side of the House
(Sir E O'Brien) hail delayed the communication which lie
bed made, he would have heard that it was 11w intention of
his Right Hon. Friend to propose • vote of credit. fur a mem,
as iu 1818, to be placed at the disposal of the Irish Govern.
meat, for the purpose of being applied for the relief of the
distresses of the population of that pert of the kingdom,
and also to be •dvaneed fur Slur carrying on of such public
works as presented a reasonable prospect of repayment.
Fur this purpose, and fur that which be had stated with re-
ference to the agricultui•l question, • sum of 2,000.0017
would be required. It had been proposed that the Beath
should advatice4,ooo,ooo/. on Exchequer hills, at the low rate
of 3 per cent. That, it was stated, apart from its local ap-
plication, by finding its way into general circulation,
would operate beneficially as a measure of relief to the
circulation, which was said to be considerably pressed.
He had already stated, that should Parliament think
proper to unction this plan, 1.000,0001. would be
required for the advisees us storing emit, aid ll' 3ike
amount fur carrying oo public works is Ireland. Ile had
great satisfaction in staling, to the House, that since their
last iliscuseitos the Bank hod very freely and liberally oe
fered to make an advance al the low rate of three per mat.
for the 'impose of paying off tbe holders of the Navy Fire
per Cents. who had derhoed seceding to the terms offered
for the reduction of that stock. As • consideration for
which a promise had been made to renew the charter of the
Bank fur tea years. By that arronsement 2 600,0001. which
was the amount of the mock held by those persona who
had dimwitted, would be added to the eirculati• n by July
next. It was absolutely essential that Parliament should
make up its mind as to what coarse of policy it should adopt
relative to the currency of the country. There wan reason
to believe that the country bankers, in order to prepare them-
selves to act on that state of thine* contemplated by the
eotoplet!oo of the measure which had been adopted fur the
purpose of returning to • metallic eutectic'', had contracted
their issues o• • scale much narrower than was necessary
for their own security, or than their respoostbility required;
which bad the effect of contracting the circulation within
the amount required for the purposes of the commercial
and other transactions of the country. It was necessary,
tlwrefure to look •t the effect in the tireislatios • gat
only of this country, but of the whole world, of plating
our circulation on the basis of • metallic cinerary.
Goverment had looked at the question in that light, and
were satisfied that it would be more prudent to sees 1 the
period fur completing the opesatioo fur some yeses, iced it
bad been thought advisable to make it coiseideut with the
Bask charter, which would extend it to 1833.—(11ear.)—
If the argument were well founded, that, by making gold
d , not only here, but is every other part of the would, •
Considerable pressure upon the circulation had bees incurred
by the means adopted in accelerate the return to a metallic
curresmy, chat would be the pressure of the additional quail-
lily requisite to supply the absence of all the small notes now
its circulation? Great sod laudable efforts had been made by
the Batik of &Wand, bat nu sooner did they throw their
pietas and sovereigns into circulation, thau they began to
' return stack upon them. There was every appearance of a
perfect reliance on the security of the standard already Circu-
lating, mid to persevere In the issue of gold would be furring
a gold circulation against the taste of the country. He
thought, therefore, as it was necessary to choose between
the two alternatives, mid to make the choice without delay;
that it would be preferable to allow the circulation to rest
on papec—(Hear!)--.So as that the country bankers should
comilnue to Issue small note., payable by theta la 11311 k of
Ragland notes on demand, and to leave the paynient of B ink
of England notes in gold oat the same footing as at present. It
was the wisdoms wish of Government to cultivate banking
operations of • character which must be most solid from the
number end respectability of the persons embarking in them.
His Right Hutt. Friend, with this view, had obtained a
negociation with the Bank of Eagland to obtain such • re-
laxation of the Bank Charter a• to enable the establishment
' of partherallips of more theta six persona, though out within
such • distance of (Ando* as to interfere wails the ope.
rations of the Bank of Enelenal. The distance of sixty-
five mites round London would perhaps be • proper limit.
Such a would give that facility and security to the
currency of Ibis country which prevailed in Scotland ; anal
in following meth so ',temple, he thought we shaulit be
'mitts under the most favourable auspices. There were iu
'het country twenty-five banks, three of which were charter-
ed companies, aml the remainder jolot stock eumpanlim,
the average number of partners in each being from
fifty to sixty. In order to induce persons to go into
them, they laid down principles of hanklog so fair sod correct
in their nature, as to convince the parties of the security and
lucrative nature of the concern, and fur fifty tears (until the •
other day, that he had hewed • rumour of the suiraoe of
the failure of a Scotch batik, whether true or nut he had
not since hero informed) there had nut been esthete thwance
of failure among them. The attention of Giweroment
having been applied to the reduction of the estimates as low
as pomible, Parliament had satisfied itself of the exiesence
of a surplus of krone' over the expenditure of 5,000,0001.,
and had thus realised a system of Mather which plated us is
a solid stale of Others, and corroborated its former decisive,
of cunvertiog shmlover surplus mitht exist to the preserva-
tion of the credit 'if the country. The House had alto per-
mitted his Right Hoc Friend tu mob+, k in the mom glamor,
financial measure that ever was attempted, that of redwing
to • lower rate of iestetest funds to the extent of 155.090,01 W.
He believed that if it had bet o mated at any former period
that such an ',wail could be concluded in the short spare
of six weeks without • couvuleion, that it would have been
thought madness; it had however been accomplished with-
out any difficulty, end the interest of the debt had thereby
been seduced 1,300,000/. a.year. He owed name explain's-
tiou to the House ou the pate of his Right Hun. Friend, on
a measure which he hail it in contemplation to propose.
His Right Honourable Friend would put the Nous, in lam-
emotion of • Resolution which be would move nn • future
night, probably Wertheaday or Friday in the present week,
for the purpose of bringing that under the coesidera-
!ion cf Pas limment. It might be asked why he had nut pro-
posed it before? The magnanimity mad wisdom of Parlianothe
having sustatued the many shocks which it was natural to
expect should be levelled as ioublie credit in the course of the
present Seamus, by permeate noxious so afford relief to the die•
tresses which pressed on the agriculture of the kingdom, the
confideuce of the country in politic credit had been firmly
established. Ii was illipOTlllb'e that has Right Him Friend
could prepare, mewl the public entail stood high ana Uremia
and until the great operation of the reduction air the 0 per
cells. wee completely executed, mid the market completely
tranquillizt al—until this were the case it was ITelllll.
sible that hie Ittglit Honourable Friend could in more
to loirig under the consideration of Parliament the fiaiturial
measure *lnch he bad now is contemplation. The House
one aware that there was um" shading under the heads of
arms, 'levy, and ordnance, a dead expense, •moutitioo to
an annual charge ot 0,001.1,0001 This stood on the credit of
Parliament, aud the faith ill the country, in the form of an-
sultana of various aromas granted to the parties, who had
been eneployed iu these beseeches of the public ACIVICP, ass.
der v,italU regulations, for pensions nod superannuated
allua arras. It was indeed • debt mewling us • fouling
greatly incoureineut to the other relations of the eaen•
try. It gave to the poll c as exaggerated notion of
the expense of the ewahlialenseute of the country ; weak-
slit them believe that Wetted of 12 or 13,000,0001. they
amouuted to 17 or 111,MM,0001. On all mead principles
Iles ought rather to be treated OS debt than 44 14•1184114 on
the same fooling with the other expenses of ihreasairy. It
Was a debt of • nature peculiar in itself It was a cheep
that had grown up out of a war the moat extraordinary Is
its net and circeimetaoree, such a war se hr did bops
would, never occur again—(flnel' cbeeriug)—a war is Worth
the Mowers of the country had bees most powerfully die.
' vektherl, sad in which it bad made miertionsef that gigantio
nature far its ovr• safety sad that of &ewe, as might
larked be ,once eassaiard, but vopld probably otter
be made again —(Loud tbeere.)—The promaion for -those
oho Lad acqaira classes *pow the pubic for samees

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during that war, atecidafed to 5,0416,960/. anntislly ; the
v1"1.1° the sime held, tiler the Amer tgen war, having
Wilt 7 ""usslrd to 018.18:01 This greet leerorm-e of this
heed of e N:relisr, rendered it incelthelt ow his Alejledy's M-
oment to retire the elsertri, .0 as to protect OW r)..1,1ry in
future from steels en immune of rherge cyder ibis head. It
was seer ssss therefore to place the. chasm. .in a foutmc to
be 'rested as a debt, di.tioet as indeed it was in it. er,iu re from
anti other mutton of pub' w debt. Calcul ding on mire-S-
-pies of annuity tatter, it wet problble That in shout TO years
the whole of this charge would fall in. Ilia Right Hun.
proposed lu rulituit to the consideration of the
Morse, to make a pruri.ion for the payment of dfts chaste,
whieb would in no degree alter the siterationamf she Melt-
•idends, either wish Parliament or sill' the Crown. It was
,aridly a finmeint mi , cot 1 retching the sit usilou of
the parties, Host touching the ailotioistraihiu of the Noels
user the control of Paili.intent, nor the *onset gear.% hat
only altering (be mode is which the payment was sir be pro.
sided. The (lOftlien which his Rig6l Hem. Veined had te
sobniii was, whit M3ll the rem which omelet he required in
a fixed amenity fur a number of years. of the bums to be
plot to the leveret individemls Moving atioustfes payable out
of this charge. The perste' he would fix sestet be filly.
Ave years He ought to Mate whet the wurkini of such
a principle woali be. If the Homer thought fit lie grout
sit amenity fur forty-five ram of lions 2.500 With to
3.01/0,0004 contracts might be firmed upon adeqled•
lily, for firreeishing in exchauge fur such •nuitity, the souls
required in smelt year for the paymeut of the several auhui-
tams. If by paying 2,800,0001., contracts coul.l be (mood
wish responsible tirelevidul Is so furnish the sums to pay the
clatmaut. on this. charge, an immediate 1111,1111; would be
effected 0(2,100,000/. The woe k log uf this measure for the
Oust IC 'ewe would ett el a great liaving to the coon-
try; arid 0 might be calculated that the sum thee to
be paid by the coatrooms would, by the felling off of
the peosiourra, be reduced so equal to lint which the
country would bays to pay
.theme ; and after that pe-
riod the contractor would des Me all the advantages of
the Ching is of the •vneities which would he well repay-
ing him. If Parliament would sauctmo this priociple, the
Goverioneet proposed to ieyit ; though he euti:d out miller-
lake to as,ure the House or the country of it. success.
If it did succeed, they would be able to realise to the pu die
that which the Hon, Member fur Curia Castle (Mr. Lteeike.)
had proposed. Th., Hoe. Member had said, unless they were
able to tie op the 6000,0001. surplus of the revenue mild it
imamate] to our per cent. ou she capital of the debt, they
never would arrive at such a sinking feud es had been one
gully proposed. This measure woolel enee-de thou SO to

tie up Ibe .b,000,0001. and et 'rag h to place th.! sinking
fund on that simple fooling which bad always been de-
sired by his Right Honourable Friend. The !tinted wag nut
very remote in which it might be accomplished, mot mi which
the country would reap that rich reward of its exert ions which
always grew out of neeasurea of justice. Thry would st-
rive in 10 years to a sinking food of 7,800,000?.; and in the
course of that time they would hare reduced 70,000,04/01. of
the debt, which would leave at the disposal of Parliament
290,0001. annually. Thus they would be placed in a sita•
atom iu which they could out hesitate to tic up the stir-
plus 0(3.1100,000/ for a .inking fund. Supposing fur an an-
nuity 0f2,000,0001 such a toutraci kr he had mentioned could
be made, a sum of 2,200,000/. a year would thereby be placed
at the disposal of Parliament, which it might apply ad it
thought necesasry. They would thereby be enabled to give
relief to the country in the only way In which a reduction
of taxes could r. twee it. God.foilnd that he should lead
the country to think that any relief from laces could resoure
the pressure of distress ; when he said it would give relief,
he begged always to be nurierstood as meaning solely a
sober mea.nre of relief, and not any !Mug ai the way of
m ukiug miracles, by the entire removal of distress. He had,
moreover. It beg the Howse not to let in the ellatedleat
thought of the possibility of getting at the relief to which At
had pointed, but by some aterifice of' exertion, toward, the
complete execution of the phi he had mention...l. His Right
Host. Friend would not Ix prepared to reeommeu .1 the Home to •
redact the whole stem .A 2,300,000/. fr.im the amount uf the
taxation. Ii would be necessary to make some. proviso'', to
meet farther claims which might yet grow due us the dead
expense arising out of the late war. They had looked into
the meisure as closely as calculators in au abstruse matter
ailing kited would allow; and they had reason to believe
that 300,0001.1.0.1 d completely mover the addition to the
dead expense which would sweetie in the mat ten years, *a
I that met of g,200,000/. they would howl to set -smut 3 or
400,801. fur that purpose; illky would then have
1,8000901: to vesture la taxes. Ipilit again evaders ihe
flouse and the comsat, eis belies' 011111‘wells a silliefavit 00
he oht tined by careyesig into •co ea.4lxectitillgeAlor year
e,
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lie had proposed, had by a'alwarly a 'tnewitielples.
It would Hot be expected of him 10 as fa akas they
remelt' propose to give hp .I.ll3ilir every view gikop,orti
embattle, tug the effect *heels` ties tarot tun eitimaigteowelP
wens or by say inelivoluahls-ustrer of say pasticOr tau,
was calculated to producPshia the articles immetheavely mil►
ject to such tax, it was iitil'el=thcouut prier that it
im should be etatioreil omit' eminent in which tbe.plan
was prepared for adoption. to Mile memos of-004st .11041
years they hail already taken °Cate limos dim intermit.
iii to 400,900/. and the malt taw to 1,210,000(.; and
if they should be able to sake off fseethee tales to the
unusual of 1.8000001, they would hate labia off Mtn-
:ether 3,400,000/. He thought if the arratigetneast he bad
suggested should enable them to lake off taxes to that
amount, without touching tits sinking fund of 5,800,000?.,
leaving that to go on until ii ansumet. J so one per teat. on
the whole capital of the debt, and without calculstiog oo
i any lescresse of retenue, it would be allowed that the
advantages which would thus be genteel to the country were
preferable to these whirl, the lion. awl Lempeel Geotleinan
opposite (Mr. Brougham) held proposed to aileron in the Crills.
menretneut of the Session by mole Maj. damnable torsos.
He would now proceed to what more immediately related to
tits apiculture' question, lead the mode of relief which it
i was desirable to adopt in terse net to it. The first question
1 'nal naturally presenieil itself on that brad was, wile.
t tiler it was a reasonable time fur 'Hinging the mil+ ci at all
terrors Parlianieut. Although these might be great iliffi-
; cotters in the question whirls were out racily to be ovie•
come at owee, yet he could nut foresee any mono.' at
who h it was likely be public uliud timid be bruullit
• to view the question muse calmly Mau at the peetietit
lime. flerauw the time was now emote at winch any
propositiow could be 'rough) to bear upon Ike guest
; subject of contention batmen the apicaltuessis mad the
people at large. For himself, he thought it was uut pus-
; allele to strict the prices it cola; luot lie was prepaerd
at a proper time to make some •lierai ••••• a in the I,IW,
I because there were in it eircometaurea likely to operate
; great itecouveilieuire ; and if for use oilier season hut tea give
i the a I more of ehe country time sod opportunity to exercise
itself to tibia subject in the prevent Seasivo, he was desmowA
In cementer this ali the fittest time to brii.g it forward.
; Th; re was out any diversity of opinion in the Committee as
to the glut of cora which peeved. d abroad; Mill that if it
I should be allowed to come situ this commit' without control
I ur restraint, uo man could describe the ruin which world
Le brought upon the apiculture of elm country, not fur woe
or two yews, but fur a leogthened pereud.—(Hear, hear,
hear.)—lf it wire came in it would lay like a otglit-mare--
(Hear and • laugh)—*s et new, r t...u14 lit . spurt. .1, but moat
femme is this cuentiy. If be weie ark•il es to the chances
I of the ports opening next year, lie would like to lay a bet
that they SOU id mkt u pen, er men the iii'll year; and he would
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take oddielleat meet they would 001 illiell /II she y. ar follow iug
that. But still it would be nu mute, r for the liuuseut COlllllllOllll
i to give to libels euusti•nt tot, that brc.u.e the rliaores were
' apnoea the country being ,tuned mai year, the House there-
, fuse would slot tskd any steps to meet the danger Molise' the
pommel year. The peeseut was out a tune fur the House to
.lumber in their duly, and he W.lll perauailed that a posers.
meat which should put nail( upon the good arose of the
. people, would 'Hake a good passage even in the worst
. of firma. If then they were opted on pe tartlet's, Ilse
quest resolved itself Roo the proper quantum of duly,
suit the differences of momenta UM that panel were so
leant, that be fur his emu part Avoid be disposed to
: adopt any of she different proposilione suede iu the Cons-
, muter, rather than expose the country to she danger of
. all terrible as inundation of foreign corn. He would
slate the grounds on wheel' Ills hopes were founded of
some inemure twin passed in the .present Session. He
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uteri had Not, loeitori to the I,
C..tbmi'lste OW* sal Not (and hr hoped
to the itosisr) a second opinion, that as I
seal' it was defective. He paoserl at no,
to oil- errailied immortal ion, which was
freest from the fere trade adtoeal.d by II
Portia/oven (Mr. Rirardo.) All operi
(mild nut to he ?spirited tif an ioundati
ft.ol d it were agreed that the imposition
• only prataal 'amide moraine (of which aelveri
f) doubt), then the question, ga hr had bef
rowed iniu the mere qoaututo of dirty;
lure were Iwo chasm-. of opinions: one,
' duly should be from 20. to 40s. per qut
dew, which considered that from 10e. i
would be sr(Beirut. He was Masi
eialst'rl in aingdli was ho
r shat -lass
to Ise s al" the Hoeur
lPorat the b.
Bois of Loadosole,ry) thought that with t
was or he found iu the present eircumatl
which were by no means in a u sturid
Wk. agreed in thinking Hist 'hue
the present stisie of the tormmarket
required a peculiar set of measures
be required at a future I' moil—shut
had but to cast their uy. a abroad to he
trolls. They wou'd see emoutries which.
Mimic, of eltell far their subsisteuee wit
eves Sweden Mal simulate!, gorged with
the canoe of the great division of eentoote•
of the duty, he thr.ught that those who c
40a. per quarter had put out of their eon,
charges to which foreign eyes was Gutsier(
The Committee was late in taking that
unaideratioa, hut nhen considered, he II
a most material effect. He tl 1111 l eta It
foreign corn could nut come hero for Irss
12s. per quarter. According to the two'
and insuranee would be par I from ss.
add to which for the ordinary commerci
cent., which, aupposiag corn at 50a. per r
ss. per quarter more, making together whti
to that might Ise added 51 more as the eh+
which it sleight probably remain 111 the •
any man isr his mosses say that Parliamei
• duty of 40s. per quarter on an article
twel•e shillings per rower, and that
fore it comes into the market, pay reset
quarter? It would be a gems delusion oar
a moment's encourageortot to such a I
appear to him wuitls while 11l argue with
the ultra aide of the q•!mtion, as hr so'
hard!). bear the Mali meat of their own p..
then to look at the question of modeler
first notice our misrepresentation, which
pagated—he meant the notion that 35a. p
average price of the foreign quarter of.
meat to say that a f. •.. quarters of (ureic
now bit imported at 355., but the (Uccle
more got a profit upon it than the
had on that which he was selling
This was • delusion propagated by persons
to lead the public mind eat this import(
would venture to affirm that, aiib a vi
turns, foretell curs could nut he quoted al
lug to the returns of the Danis.. market
last seven years, the pent ante (without am
tag it here) 4g.. per quarter. It was a grim
fore, to talk of a eVallpelitlell at 355. per qua
no other purpose than to callow it, it was t
Guermorni to he rig forward the present
wished particularly to attract the smoke r
her fur Lase* whilst he was on this pond.
before observed, so little diversity in the
in r'•%. Committee, that whether the Hour
ditty of 20s. descending 11.1 10.. per quart(
the Hon. Member fur Portarlingion, or t
Marquis of Londonderry) had proposed, of
the int place, and a &Wipe duly of ss.
which be understood a Right Hon. Gent
pose, mutely a duty of IS.. without deserts.
Member fur Portarlington proposed, be was
to airy of them. What would be she real
them? They beard now complaints that
du nothing, sad it might he from thence I
present duties oruae from a woo of
id mut, the primeut price was nut within
that at which the ports might he opened.
.supposed that Parliament was pow, .eil of sos►
high prle. a. But the question wsa.uhtt is them
Hun that should be given? He (Lord Londondei
that. the ruunity shouNtl derive its supply of for,"
system of duty, for the effect of duty was
r the warehouse; but unless it were to be
it woolsl not belrought into the market, is
try would be protected from the Jury of
forrigo corn. The amount of protection,
I.is eat of lbe proposnious, would he 15..;
104. or li.. per pewee charges, as INC.',
make 275. per quarter that the importer of
pay tit abaienteat at the price which
the English market, According to t
Committee„ it would be 29.. per quarter;
Member for Portarlinetnais plan wire
be 325. per quarter. The Couitnitire woul
had got Into the ultra position, but on a
he did not think these would be found inortlii
objection to the plan of the Hun. M. other f
was, that it would be a lezislating fur
might so happen that the eircaniwassees
icon Hume nose supposed. Though the dotter
conaidered prohibitory, yet he it ghl the'
sufficient protection to the English grower'
posirig air tirdi•idul to import at the I
(AlltolueliliZ, with charges, to 275. per •
which bre would ;venire would rout Ile 70s,
Touter. In the ports of the Baltic
pike of wheat was nearer 355. Asa 30s.
that thtre would be a pearliest coluaioss
price 111 our market was 70•. per quart.
welt known that formerly the duty of
operated as n total prohibition, for Intl a
imported. The Hun. Member fur Porta.
to °lieu the ports at 70s. pie quarter, at
nut see any great objection to it,
duty of the House to avoid alarming
In ordinary times, and looking at the tpletti
state of things, there was lio utihrully in la
protection without any import price whale'
chat gu would Sc a practical import poi
sent state of things • great quantity
might Soil its way 4110 the country. A
Hoar. Member fur Po. 'rutin:lon migni be
Out he able to per•oseje the country thr
thereforeoa that head ha (the NI mg it's of
an tool. rstauding might be conic to.
the nature of the propositious of the Cut
not exactly those ul his uws mind, but
w lab bat to bring foiward those whiter
sanction of the great toes of the Commit
nevi r bad sat in a C tttttt mitre on • art
greater wiammily prevailed as to the
measure. The first resolution which I
would be respectiroz the wit naiiiiim
housed The srcond 1'4.0111111M wuuid Ice,
having fureigs corn warehoast,t Isere to gi
i ecitil.aatloniti,tosez,. h
re it from
props..ciirnirait..
ie ker eawil
teratione of the rxistiog core laws as to tl
70s being substitotid for 1104., which he
would agree to whin they recollected Her
much unlike *Alai FO.. was. There war
yiaulity of foreign curs warehoused, •
of the law as it stow stood. Hi
8 or 000,010 quarters of corn, rf wl
'was wheat, mot if nu re irulatten ass
all this would conic unt 'soder no
that the Colllllllsit could supply. To 11
Coulitseut they oath. apply a duty, hut
aralently with good faith •.; deal with thai
•Ithirsigli *toy might perui‘i it to rume ear
Os ploarol of a duty. II the Right Hon
siabout his Res..lutiutor, the Coninrittre •
them taro sets of Resolutious oar whii.h
thought it could not be cosiventently disci
luuom wire printed—he proposed th
should be read proforma, and the di hato