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Tite BM was then read a second time, and committed.
olr. Alderman THOMPSON presented • petition from certain
,lerchams of the City of London, in favour of the Tees Railway.
/dr. Alderman WOOD begged to say one or two words in reply
to what had fallen front an lion. Baronet (Sir 111. W. Ridley) with

respect to the Corporeek's of Leedom.
The SPEAKER hoped the worthy Alderman yacht not pursue
a course so much out of order.
Mr. Alderman WOOD promised to confine himself entirely to
the question before the House ; he was sure that if the circi.tn-
stances were inquired into, it would be found the Corporation
was but little benefited by the duties it received, so low were
they ; and as to the duty which had been imposed on coal about
40 or 50 years ago, for the support of the Orphan Institution,
he seemed the House that the Honourable Baronet, or any other
Member, received just as much of it as the ( orporatiou did.
After a few words from Mr. Alderman WOOD, the petition was
brought up and ordered to be laid upon the table.
Several Private Bills were read a first time.
EDINBURGH RAIL-WAY.
Upon the Motion of Sir A. CAMPBELL, the Edinburgh Rail-
way Bill was read a first time, ordered to be printed, and read a
second time on Monday.
ASSESSED TAXES.
Mr. FLEMING prfsentrel • petitiou from Southampton for the
Repeal of lute Assessed Taxes.
Mr. Alderman WOOD presented a petition from the Ward of
Bishops ate, praying for the repeal of the House and Window
Tax. The Hon. Member observed, he was instructed to say, it
was the opinion of his Constituents, that no relief whatever had
been afforded by the measures proposed on Monday. `?lie Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer had expressed hie desire thet the good
citizens of London should enjoy a comfortable bottle fc, wine at •
small expense, bet lie could tell him there were other enjoymer.t.
they prized more than the luxury of • bottle of wine; and which he
trusted Vie petitions about to be presented from all parts of the
country would compel him to afford them—he meant the luxury of
being freed from this grinding and oppressive tax upon "lee* In-
dustry.—The petition was laid upon the table, and ordeted to be
printed.—The Worthy Alderman. in presenting another petition
upon the same subject from the Ward of Cripplegate„ assured the
House that it had been signed in two or three hours by 300 of the
most respectable inhabitants. They prayed that if they cold.' not be
relieved from both House and M. indow Duties, that at all events
they would repeal the Window Tax.—Ornered to be printed.
GAME LAWS.
Sir 1. SHELLEY, seeing the Hon. Member for Yorkshire
(Mr. S. Wortley) in his place, begged to ask him at what time
he proposed to bring forward the second reading of the (lame
Laws Bill?
Mr. S. WORTLEY replied in a very low tone of voice; we
understood him to say, that he could not at present fix any day,
and that he believed not Monday.
BYE-LAWS.
Mr. LA MBTON moved that there be laid before the House a
copy of the London Bye. Laws—the laws relating to the measure-
ment of coals, coffee, kit.
PROVINCIAL BANKS.
Colonel BAGWELL presented a petition from Clonmell, in
favour of Provincial Banks.—Ordered to lie upon the table.
INSURANCE RATES.
Mr. LINDSAY presented a petition from the Directors of 15
Insurance Companies in London against the Tax upon Insurance.
The Hon. Gentleman observed, that although insurances could be
effected at the rare of 2s. per cent. the amount of duty payable to
the Crown was 130 per cent. upon that sum. He considered such a
tax unjust and oppressive.—Ordered tee be printed.
The same lion. Gentleman presented a petition from the tallow-
chandlers of Dundee, praying& reduction of the duty onCandles.—
Laid upon the table.
COUNTY COURTS 81-LL.
Mr. SCARLET? presented • petition from the Law Society
and Attorneys of the County of Lancaster. - The Learned Gentle-
man observed, that the Noble Lord's (Lord Althorp) measure
operated violently.upon the existing strife of things.. The exclusion
of Attorney' from practising in these Courts-would have the effect
of retarding, rather than forwarding the ends of justice. It would
compel gentlemen who were suitors, and even the Noble Lord him-
self if it was necessary, to attend personally for the recovery of a
small demand, and the consequeeeeewould be, that many would
rather forego their claims altogether than endure so much personal
trouble.
Lord ALTHORP, in a low voice observed, that the at-
tendance of Attorneys created a very great additional unnecessary
expense to the suitors.
Mr. SCAR LETT explained.
The petition was laid upon the table, and ordered to be printed.
DISSENTERS MARRIAGE ACT.
Mr. W. SMITH rose to move the second reading of the Dis-
senter, Marriage Act, with the view of postponing it, in case of
any opposition being intended by any Member of the House.
Mr. ROBERTSON having declared his intention to oppose it,
The Hon. Member moved that it be then read, with the view of
postponing it until that day sennight.
The Bill was then read, and postponed accordingly.
ARMY ESTIMATES.
The House, upon the motion of Lord PALMERSTON, re-
solved itself into a Committee of Supply.
Lord PALMERSTON then rose to bring forward the Army
Estimates. His Lordship said, in proposing the Estimates to the
consideration of the House, he would state shortly the difference
between this year and the last. The difference in the charge of the
land forces for the year 1825, compared with 1824, was 10.293 men
for Great Britain and Ireland. The amount 229.6851. On the
staff there was little or no alteration. In the public deer t.nent there
was an increase of about 1.9201. The House would recollect that
that service had been transferred to his office, and this bad, for the
present, created sonic little difference. Under the head of medicine,
there was an increase of about 1.11001. In the Military College
there was an increase of about 1,7631. Although the charge had
been reduced very materially, the difference arose from a large di-
minution in the amount of subscriptions. Under the heed of army
pay of General Officers, there was a decrease of nearly 13,0001.
Garrisons remained nearly the same. On the full pay of retired
officers, the diminution was about 3,0001. On the half-pay there
was • reduction of 38,0001. ;on the foreign half-pay it was 1,5001.
On the in-pensioners of Chelsea there was a diminution ; on the
out-pensioners an increase of 21,001.1/. On the Military Asylum,
about 1,000!. Under the head of widows' pensions. about 4,000/.
On the compassionate list nearly the same. Superannuation al-
lowances an increase of about 2,1;001. Having thus gone over the
general heads, he would endeavour to state the grounds upon which
the proposed Increase would be, he conceived, justified to the
House and the country. It gave him great satisfaction to feel, that
the reproaches formerly cast upon those who proposed to support
our military establishments, could not be uttered now. It could
no longer be said that they wished to maintain large military bodies
to coerce or intimidate the people, for at no time in the recollection
of man, had this country enjoyed a greater degree of happiness and
prosperity, or its itthobitants felt more confident in the continuance
of peace and security. With Ireland the prospect was not so flat-
tering ; but he would not admit that it was gloomy, or without a
ray of brightness ; and from some circumstances which had taken
place at the period when these Estimates were being formed, (Hear.)
he looked forward with cheering hopes to a termination of all the
difficulties in which they had hen involved by the protection of
that part of our dominions. It was, therefore, with very great sa.
defection, he repeatel, that Ireland had no concern in any in :tease
of our military establishment ; the reasons for it were clearly ex-
ternal. -• It was evident to any one who looked at the position of the
earth, that no country possessed so large a number of colonial pos-
sessions as England. Wherever nature had afforded advantages
denied to other places—wherever capital could be employed, in
Lasing productions for commerce, under every clime and every
situation—ita inhabitants had extended their colonial posses-
sions. He thought there was little occasion to argue that
, these important colonies should be effectually protected ; they
might, it was true, abandon them ; or by a partial support
, place them in jeopardy ; but this could not be done without great
, individual lops, and a total violation of public faith. It would be
only necessary to call their attention to the merit and variety
of these colonies—to their situation under every climate most
trying to. site human constitution ; and he was certain they
would at once confess that the military service of this country
differed from that of every other nation in the world. Ile would
ask them to trace the progress of civilisation over the habitable
globe, and he would venture to say there was scarcely a spot where
British industry and British enterprise had not found a field for
the exertion of industry, and reified a claim upon their protection.
In estimating the amount of tiwceneceteary fur the defence of such
widely extended and distant parts, they were not only to consider
the effect of climate. but they were to look to the emergencies which
might call for sudden and extraordinary reinforcements. From
the state of the army as it existed for the last twenty years., he
would venture to say it was impossible to comply with any sudden
demand upon that head of service without the most venous incon.
venience. As an instance of the difficulty which they had very
lately suffettd from an unexpected requisition, he would mention
that when the Indian Company required a reinforcement in conse-
quence of the events on the Burmese frontier, the only method
ny which his Majesty's Government had been able afford it, was
by stopping the embarkation of *tire regiments of the line which
had been for twenty years nn foreign service. (Hear, hear, hear.)
Surely that House would not any longer permit an order; for
foreign service to be a sentence of banishment for life. (Heat,
hear, hear.) When a man entered the army—abandoning every
tie—sacrificing every personal consideration to serve his country—
when toiling through all the difficulties and dangers of a military
life—sinking into premature old age from the fatigues of nu-
merous campaigns—when after all the perils of war he has at last
earned a relief by peace, was it not cruel and unjust to banish him
for life to a trying climate, and a more trying duty, still more in-

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creased in severity be the smallness of the number upon whom
that duty devolved ? Assuming then that it would be both just
and expedient to provide a fore.: which might be applied to the
relief of colonial garrisons at proper ietervals, there appeared
to be three modes in which it could be carried into execution :
first, by adding so many rank and file to die existing regiments;
secondly, by raising so many new regiments ; or, lastly, by adding
new companies to the old ones. The first, that of adding only rank
and file, would be undoubtedly the cheapest, but it was subject to
the iirporant objection, that no relief could be afforded by that
means to officers and subalterns abroad, from there being no addl.
tional reserve at home. The next, that of raining additional regi-
ments, was too expensive, flood the additiun of staff and regi-
mental allowances ; and he lied therefore been induced to se-
lect the last as the :node combining cheapness and relief in the
speediest ard most effectual manner. He proposed to increase
, the army battalions, front eight companies, containing now 676
rank and file, to ten companies, dividing these ten into two
battalions ; use one to he called the Battalion of Service, having
six companies on a higher scale than the other, the companies
being raised to 28 rank and file. making a total of 516 ; the other
to be called the Battalion of Relief. having only four companies,
and a total of 212 men—making for both somewhat more than 700
rank and file. By this arrangement, one battalion would remain
at home, for the purposes of recruiting, to supply the waste of the
other abroad, and garrisors and stations would he possessed of an
immediate available reinforcement on every case of emergency.
With respect to our garrisons, io the proposed increase, it was in-
tended to afford relief to these who were employed in our service
there. As the discipline was there at present, it was only allow.
able for the Commander to afford leave of absence for a limited
period. If he continued invalided, he was obliged to return home
and receive a pension. By the promised alteration all compul-
sory exchanges would be avoided ; and those who were front ill
health or other causes rendered unable to engage in active service, ,
might be prevented from becoming a burthen to the public by re-
ceipt of a pension, but might be employed at the depot in discip-
lining or recruiting the troops who were to be employed on active ,
duty. Thus would theme meritorious officers and men be saved to I
the service, and be prevented from retiring upon hero'''. They I
might also return, if the restoration of their health permitted it, to
the service they ad recently left. One other point to which ho
was desirous of directing the attention of the House was, the dis-
banding of the Veteran Battalions. They were raised in the year
1824 and at the time of raising them it was considered that it
would not be aecessary to continue them permanently. Cn. I
questionably, as a question of right, the continuance of their ter.
vices might still be required ; but as a matter of grace and favour
it was but fair that they should be exempted from duty, and that
the gratitude and the justice of their country should unite in award-
ing them that compensation, which they had earned by their ser-
vices. (Hear.) If they were required, they would be found ready
to tender them with that alacrity with which they had always here-
tofore done. As to the eugnientstion, it was obvious it had no
reference to foreign relations. With foreign Powers we continued ,
on the most amicable terms. If any apprehension of an opposite
sentiment arising were entertained, it was manifest that the present
force were altogether insufficient for any available defence that might
be necessary in tints of war. Happily for these countries our irfieence
was great in every part of the world, and the policy we adopted both
with respect to the army, and to every other subject, should be regard.
ed notonly on theground of selfish aggraedieement, but as related to
the welfare of ether nations. The augmentation now proposed
should not be looked upon with reference to any hostile intention,
but on a fair examination would be found only fairly proportionate to
the extent of our territory, and the_greatress and variety of the in-
terests it was our duty to protect. The Noble Lord concluded by
proposing the augmentation of fifteen thousand men for the army.
Colonel DAVIES did col rise for the premise of opposing the
proposition, but of protesting against this augmentation being per.
manent. He could not altogether coincide in the opinion, that there
was not something in the aspect of foreign relations connected with
the present augmentation. If there were not, why was there an in.
crease at all ? Last year there had been an increase of five thousand
men, and if there was not something to require the increase, the
increase of list year would be found sufficient, or it should be said
to go for nothing. Tice portion of troops destined for India wen
called for by the extraordinary misconduct of our Government
there, who provoked the Burmese war, in a quarrel for an island of
so little value that it was not worth the first round of ammunition
that ems spent upon it. The Noble Lord had told the House that
the anoy abroad was inefficient from the manner in which the bat-
talions were composed. To that composition, in ore respect, he
WWI desirous of calling the attention of the House. It was pro-
posed that the battalions should consist of fire hurdled and
enrenty-five, or live hundred and sixty men each. Of the number
of men in a battalion, it was well known to those conversant in
military affairs, that not more than two-thirds or three.fourthi of
them were found available in the field ; the limitation was such,
thortfare, as to prevent the battalions from performing many mill-
tary.evolutions with effect. Ile would take an opportunity of ad.
netting to the items of the Estimates as they would occur ii detail
—for the present, though he would not oppose the vote, he woutd
protest against the principle of such au augmentation as now pro-
posed being made permanent.
Mr. 110BHOLSE was unwilling to occupy the time of the
house— a House, on a question of such vital importance, rot con.
sisting of quite a hundred diembere.—in protesting agairst the
prinriple of a standing army in time of price ; yet, in violation of
that principle, the Noble Secretary of War, without expressing
any apprehension from foreign relations, comes down to this Howse
to propose an increase of titteen thousand men. As to the details
of this question, he did not care far them ; but against the prin-
ciple he protested. There were two parts of the Royal Speech
which demanded the particular attention of the House. The one
related to the penal law recommended to be eracted against Ireland ;
the other referred to the augmentation of the Army. As to the
former, he hoped an act of justice would speedily render the opera-
tion of that law unnecessary. (Hear. hear.) He was MliplirSlNl
that the augmentation of the Army should be proposed without a
distinct statement of the grounds on which it was recommended.
Was it no ground of apprehension that the territory of our ally was
occupied by the troops of another ? Formerly the occupation of a
single garrison of one ally by another, was deemed a sufficient Tea.
son for interference ; but here, the utter annihilation of one was
threatened by the other. It was an unjust and extraordinary usurp..
ation that demanded the most zealous attention, and he trusted
this great question, which once so justly occupied the marked atten-
tion of this House, would not be permitted to pass without due
notice during the present Session. As to India—the war in which
we were engaged there was entered upon. %% ithout inquiring into
the causes which provoked that war, lie would only consider this—
that we were engaged in it, and that, therefore, we ought to main-
tain it properly. There were two questions on which he thought
he was entitled to explicit information from the Noble Lord ; Ist,
whether the proposed augmentation had any Terrence to the for-
tune of affairs between Spain and France ? and secondly, whether
it was intended that the army on the scale of augmentation should
be permanent ?
Sir R. WILSON was generally opposed to an augmentation of
military force in time of peace. 1t was not the natural growth of
our Constitution, but an excrescence that trace front foreign
pressure, or from the apprehension of ft. Ile saw nothing in the
state of affairs to need military assistance in those countries; but
in the state of our foreign relations there existed a necessity for
arrangements that might render relief and supplies requisite. The
occupation of Spain by France was a consideration that required
the exercise of the utmost watchfulness and caution on the part of
this House. Cadiz was occupied to a period beyond any period of
any necessary purpose or safe object on the part of France. The
King of Portugal, who was an ally under our protection, was also
interfered with, because the principles of his government were not
conformable to the system of the Holy Alliance. The state of
South America also required our attention; it was now our ally.
and its interests and i:s welfare demanded our attention. The Hon.
Member concluded by supporting the proposition, as he eon.
sidered the time of public exigency not a fitting one for the raising
of forces to provide against difficulties that may a: ire. It was far
better to be prepared to meet therm
Mr. PEEL said, that although the House was not as full as it
had been mi previous eights of discussion this Session, yet a suf-
ficient number waa,tn his opinion, present to entertain the question,
on which there appeared to be no very material difference of opinion.
The three speeches which he had heard from Honourable Gentle-
men opposite were all conclusive that his Honourable Friend's
proposition was perfectly fair. The Honourable Gentleman (Sir
R. Wilson) had come forward and borne an honourable and candid
testimony—a testimony consistent with his character as an able
officer and a man of honour (hear, hear), that the garrison of
Gibraltar was not equal to the necessary duty, consistent with the
respect due to the comfort and health of the military stationed
there. Now if this was true, as no doubt it was, with respect to
the garrison of Gibraltar, was it not a fair infesence that other
garrisons were similarly situated ? A considerable augmentation of
the army was therefore necessary, without any reference to foreign
politics, but merely keeping in view the respect which should be
paid to the comfort of our own soldiers. The Honourable Gen-
tleman hid touched upon other and more important topics which
had been referred to by his Noble Friend. These, nn doubt, were
topics of great importance and delicacy. In the absence of the
Secretary u r Foreign Affairs he ?Mould refrain from provoking dis-
cussion on those topics, and he hoped the Honourable Gentleman
would defer any observations on those topics to a future occasion.
It is a duty we owe to the gallant defenders of our country in time
of war, to attend to their comforts in time of peace. The claims
of our gallant army. on the country were irrecortible, and lie felt
much pleasure in giving his ready assent to the propositions of his
Honourable Friend.
Mr. CA LCRAFT said, he was convinced Honourable Gentle-
men at Ida side of the House would not have been absent on this
occasion if they conceived that public duty required their presence.
If any constitutional question arose which called for discussion,
they would be found in their places, or if they were not satisfied
that the public exigency rendered the proposed augmentation ne.
ceeeary. (Hear, hear.) Judging strictly, he thought the army,
as it was last year. sufficient for all Colonial purposes. Ile should
be sorry, however, to penis this view of the question, or to oppose
the more liberal system of relief contemplated by the Noble Lord.
He Omni:lit, that under the proposed arrangement a very consider-
able disposable force would remain ; but a disposable force by no
means too great, considering the present situation of Europe. He
hoped that he who had always supported measures of economy, would
not be considered inconsistent, nor be thought to have trenched
upon any constitutional right, (Hewn bear.) when, upon the
eorpo
nuvie,tiidioenw. which he bad stated, he consented to the Noble Lord's
p
Mr. BERNAL admitted that circumstances connected with the
present state of the world justified the proposed augmentation.
He was reedy to bear testimony to the attention and humanity
which the Commander-in-Chief manifested, in the arrangements
which were mode for the relief of our troops in the %Vest Indies.
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on the very grounds which induced hta Hon. Friends toarnpport It.
(Hear, hear, and • laugh.) 11'hen eight hundred millions of
public debt remained unpaid he could not consent to vote one shil-
ling upon the confidence of Ministers. His lion. Friends said,
that it they considered that the proposed augmentation was to be
permanent they should oppose it, int as they thought it woe set-
porary, and only had recourse to for some reeson which she Mi.
Disler did not tell, they would vote for it. Now the Noble Lord's
argument was 'quite inconsistent with the expectations of hie lIoo•
Friends. The Noble Lord appealed to the House as • matter of
feeling, end grounded the motion for an augmentation of our mili-
tary force on the necessity of relieving our troops stationed is the
eolocies. if this was the true ground for the proposed migenente-
lion, it was not a temporary sit miemanent ground :at d incase
of war, it' we should coney- oew colonies, in proportion to the
extent of our conqunte -. might be called upon to increase our
military force. i'hoeno no man felt more detply than he did the
debt of gratitude. c to the army, he was one of those who thought
the less the ertbed force the betel. lii Cnne of peace he thought
we ought to hare two main objet's—to conciliate the people, and
promote economy. He thought we could never be able to seems:.
plish the latter it we sere not able to do an in the prosperous state
of the empire, and when Europe was perfectly tranquil. If he ap-
prehended any attempt on the part t f that Alliance. miscalled
" the holy," to oppose our recognition of the South American
Staten, or if he thought they determined to c.i ."'tact the liberal
sy
consent to vote away the last man a the last stem of policy which we lied lately pursued, in such a cause het
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should editing in the
country. (dear.) He did not think himself j Md. however, in vot-
ing foe the augmentatien.on the g ound of at confidence which
should be plated in Ministers, or on the ground of some object
which they might have in view, but sighed to conceal.
General HOPE briefly supported theft- • e
General GASCOVNE said, lie did nit find sufficient is the
statement of the Noble Lord to convince hie- that there were not
regiments enough to relieve the unops in the Colonies. lie itader-
stood the Noble Lord to say, ,it was wily the intention to relieve
the troops partially, but not to change the 7 'Oneida. He did one
think the Noble Lord had sufficiently explained hie designs.
Mr. M. riTzcERALD considered the propoeed eareneetstioo
necessary, although he should not consent to the augmentation of
OUT military force in proportion to our views of eel:mist agree-
diounent, as was stated in the theory laid down by his Hon. Friend
(Mr. Hutchinson). lie thought the manner in which this forst
should be applied might safely be confided in the military depart-
ment. He understood front many officers, for whose opinion be
lead the highest respect, that our Colonies were inadequately gar-
risoned, and that proper attention was not paid to the health and
comfort of our troops. lie widessed he did not feel that constitu-
tional jealousy which the lion. Mendel. for 'Woorninster, whou
motives he much respected, seemed to feel. lie thought roe pro-
posed augmentation was not unreasonable; and cordially concerted
in the vote.
Lord PALMERSTON explained. In allusion to what bad
fallen from General Osacoyne, the ileinnurahte Member supposed
that the relief was not intended to he made by regiments, but only
by companies; this was altogether a mistake. What he (Lord
Palmerston) had said was, that the proposed arrangement
would be productive of a double advantage. Regimens would not
only be more quickly relieved, but an opportunity would be given
for facilitating the relief of individuals who required such an in-
dulgence.
IVOUNDED OFFICERS.
Sir R. WILSON said, he had a suggestion to make to the
Noble Lord in favour of the wounded Officers. It would be a
great convenience to those individuals if their pensions were paid
quarterly instead of yearly, as is the case with officers on ht.lf-pay.
Lord PALMERSTON said nothing would give him greater
pleasure than to comply with the suggestion of the Honourable
Member. lie should cansult with the Paymaster-General, with
whose department this recommendation was more immediately
connected, and. it' possible. enter into an arrangement iu compli-
ance with the Honourable Member's auggettien. •
Sir C. LONG rose to say, ttiat no difficulty should be thrown in
the way of the proposed arrangement at the Paymaster-General's
office.
Mr. SMITH said, he did not blame Ministers for being extra-
vagant, but he charged them with being parsimonious. This may
seem inconsistent for one who had always voted for economy ; but
he had been led to this conclusion by particular facts. which had
come to his knowledge. Certain officers who received wounds in
the service equivalent to the lose of a limb received a pension, and
in the grant not sword was mewient4l of" Ili. Majesty's ploisure;"
so that those individual+, naturally enough, considered that the
pension was granted for life. Atlerweri!s, however, on the report
of the Military Surgical Based, these individuals have been de-
prived of their pensions. lie was willing to allow that they were
rot in the same state of disability as when the pensions were
granted. When pensions were granted without limitation, and
in return for severe suffering, he thought that this shieull not be
discontinued. In some instances it cteated a considerable degree
of distress, when a meritorious officer was deprived perhaps of
half hie income. He understood this complaint did not extend to
the navy. No individual in the House was lees connected with the
army then he was; but he was sure the Noble L-411 and the Go.
vernment were not aware of the misery which this arrangement
produced.
Lord PALMERSTON thought the statement of the Honoura-
ble Member proved how impossible it was for a person tilling a
public situation to please all parties. Same individuals charge hint
with prodigality, and now he was charged with an opposite offence.
This proved, at least, that his course was not a right lire. He
should be happy, if consistent with hie duty, to attend to the cues
alluded to by the Honourable Member. He could assure the
House, that pensions were diecontlemed in very few cases, and
never until he was perfectly satisfied by report of the Medical
Board that the injuries for which individuals received the pension
no longer operated. lie would give the Honourable Gentleman the
same answer he gave the Honourable Member foe Aberdeen, who
was not now in the Howe, (Hear and • laugh.) when that
Honourable Member charged him with prodigality in the dispcsal
of pension,. lie wouldaay, point out the individual cases of hard.
ship, and let as be convinced that injustice has been done. If
injustice has been done, it was undeeignedly. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. THEM AYNE observed upon another hardship to which
wounded officers were liiiblo. They might be called upon from a
great distance to attend the Medical Beard, at the expense perhaps
of • half a years' salary. (In one occasion he had referred an in-
stance of this kind to the Noble Lord, who kindly consented to
hare the officer examined before a Board in the country. He now
begged to inquire whether any new arrangement was made on this
point?
Lord PALMERSTON fesecil it would be impossible to enter
into any arrati;mment which would meet every particular case. In
some cases individuals weie referred re a Bold in the eonntty, but
in general cases he thought it better to lease the examination to
the responsible persons.
The vote was then agreed to.
The following votes were also agreed to:—
For volunteer corps in Great Britain, 128.0001.
For volunteer corps in Ireland, 19.303/. 12s.
Medicines—Great Britain and Ireland, 18 4597 lls. bd.
Public peruneftiss 116,4701. 13s. 10e.
Staff (ex usive of India) foe Great Britain and Ireland,
117.8511. 17s. lid.
Regiments in the East India Companies territories, 783,971/.
Ils. 10d.
Recruiting troops and companies for India. 27,3381. 51. 3d.
MILITARY COLLEGE.
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Upon the Resolution that 13,1C91. 9s. 2tl. be voted to the Mili-
tary College—
Colonel DAVIES made a few observations on the dispropar-
tional increase of Cadets.
The rote was agreed to, as was the rose of 35,3231. 73. ld. for
the expenses of garrisons.
ORDINANCE ESTIMATES.
Sir D. lIARDINGE rose to move the Ordnance Estimates.
upon wnich he stated that there was a dintunition of 14.000/. since
last year. The total amount now was 963,0001. Some expenses
had taken place at Gilt-altar, when the portion of the counterscarp
allotted to the merchants for lauding their goods was found to be
too small, and it was found convenient to enlarge the counterscarp
This created a considerable expense, but the public would be re-
payed for it. An alteratioa was also made in the salary of me
Clerk of the Ordnance, which varied, in war it was from 2,0001.
2,400/.; and in peace from 1,1001. to 1,2001. It had now been
made more equal. A survey of Ireland had also been directed,
which the Master of the Ordinance lost no time in attending to
These expensesaccounted for the comparatively small amount G 1
diminution in tne Ordnance Estimates. After some further °beet.
tenons flom the Hon. Gentleman,
The Resolutions were agreed to, and ordered to be reported on.
Monday next.
The Report of the Committee on the Ways and Means wai
postponed till Monday next.
The Apothecaries Bill was read a second time.
Leave was given fur the adjournment of the Comm:ttee on
Assessed Taxes.

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