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TRIAL OF MR. CARLILE,

FOR THZ PUBLICATION 01
" PAINE'S AGE OF REASON."

COURT OF KING'S BENalb Gvnmu.
SECOND DAY—w ._ EDPIESDAT, OCT. 13.

The interest excited by this trial continues no.
abated. A considerable concourse of people as-
sembled before the great entrance at Guildhall. be•
tween eight and nine o'clock. To the Gentlemen
connected with the public press every facility was
afforded by the secondary. Mr. enllenridge, and by
Mr. Temple. the hall-keeper. The former admit-
ted them into the body of the Court at an early
hour. where they were accommodated with seats at
the habit% At a quarter before nine o'clock. the
Court was regularly opened; and in a few migrates
it was completely filled.
The Counsel for the prosecution, the Attorney soil
Solicitor General, Mr. Littledale. and Mr. Camp-
bell, took their seats soon after.

At a quarter after nine. Mr. Carlile entered the
Court. He was preceded by two friends, who
pieced on the table so immense pyramid of books.
in folio. risotto. octavo, and duodecimo.
At twenty minutes before ten, the Jury having
arrived, and having answered to their names, the
cress of the !King tr. Cordite was called. the Chief
Justice having previously taken his seat.
Afire a short pause. Mr. Carlile rose, and pro-
ceeded with his defence. He said he had endea-
voured yesterday. by going through the whole of
three party of The Age of Reason. to chew to the
Jury, that it did not contain one immoral sentiment
or expression—but that any expressions. which were
at all questionable in that work, were qnoted from
other pablications. He endeavoured, satisfacto.
rily. he hoped. to prove that Nine's object was to
rescue the character of the Almighty from the
account which wee given of him in those books
milled The Bible. He (Mr. Carlile) was elisi-
on% as far as possible, to make the writings
of Paine justify the composition, and the doctrines
laid down be him in The Age of Reason. In order
to do this, he would read a discourse pronounced
by Mr. Paine before the society of Theophiloothro.
pins, at Paris. That discourse contained a com-
plete refutation of the statement, that Paine was
en Atheist. His character was in fact most remote
from Atheism. He had indeed proved. that he en.
Pertained a more correct idea of the character of the
Almighty than was to be found in The Bible. Mr.
Carlile then proceeded to read The Discourse.
_which is printed along with Paine's Theologii al
Tnicts.—[The whole gist of this production may be
collected from a single paregraph. " The universe."
says the author. " is the Bible of a true Theophi.
lanthropist ; it is there that he reads of God ; it
is there that the proofs of his existence are to be
sought and to be found. As to written or printed
books, by whatever name they are called, they are
the week of mese* hand., and carry no evidence in
themselves that God is the author of any of them. It
must be in soesetbing that mars could net make,
that we must seek evidence for our belief, and that
something is the universe—the true Bible.r-the
mutable word of God."' In going over this tract,
the whole of which he read. Mr. Catlike made no
observation. except in one place. where the text
set forth " that persecution had ceased." " Happy,"
said he. " weeld it be for me, if persecution had
indeed ceased !" Having coochaded the tract,

be said. this little discourse hod beets puhlts. -
ed by New perste% who erre so convinced 11s it
it was • perfect refutation of iteltel.os, tem tit-e
sent it into the world with Mr. Peine's naa►e to t.
Having gem through m nisch of The Age of Rev-
iews, ea. 111 present, was necessary Cat illy
he would ley it aside-..but he would. in s tin use
stage of the trial. *gni.. refer to it. for the purpsot..
of supporting certain principle. connects-II sit Is Ls*
defence. He world now proceed Its exasnisse
book of which Mr. Pinar'. work was an nsvesti g 4.
tio•. Bet. before he wrest further. Irr- iron. nit.
serve that the Bible was net the only hook seeippooe.l
to be a revelation from Go.f. The Kornis, for iss-
uance. was *apposed. by m►llionns of peepte. to be
of divios mire.
The Arruasev-GtossAt. here interrnpte•t ti.
Defendant. He submitted that he could mot pro-
ceed further with such a line of d. Bate. The vs-
*religion of the Detention% was. that he won 141 go
late so examination of the hook, of which Poioar's
work was aa investigation. He cotues►ste.f that h►
Auld not p kits each an min iiiii The ere.-
' tier/ was. wheshee. according to the low of else coo,—
try. the Defendant hod been gushy of the offence
with which he woo charged ? It wait neither compe-
tent for his Lordship nor for the Grentleitiesi of li6e
Jury to go into such en examination as the Drtrod-

ant istopuse d—ati
Scripture,.

of the troth of the

The Cote, Joiretce" You beer the objection
taken by the Attorney-General ?"
Mr. Carlile" Yes. my Lord. The Attorney-
Geoeral states that it is not competent for your
Lordship or the Jury to go into such au eitarnams-
lion es I propose; but he has quite fergaiteis that
it is uecessary to my defence. 1 have been brought
into this Court to answer charges, and MOM NOVI I
myself of every menus of defame. The Attoriiel
General has stated that I have published a cork.
in which the Scriptures are spoken of a. coots ~,,,,
obscene stones, voluptuous dehauchelies, cruel tool
torturous esccutions, irconsistrucies sod contra.
diction.. Now I feel it to be my duty to justify
whet has been published. by appealing to the
Bible, which contains them."
The ATTORMILY-611111ERAL" I did not at 16:1
forget that the Defendant is very deeply ititeresieat
in the resnk of this trial—but this, like all other
cause., must be proceeded in according to
rules of law. And, looking to those rules,
it is not competent for a Defendant, charged with
this ofleuce, to go into such all investigation.
beg to call your Lordship'. attention to the tri4i
of au iudividuel charged with a similar tat-lice—l
mean Williams. When he was brought up to the
Court of King's Bench to receive judgment, Laid
Kenyon said. that • having re-coo:altered what had
been done duriug the trial, he took blame to him-
self fur Norio!' listened even to the arguments cued
- on that oemssiois.' lee that cage of the h lag mill
Williams, the whole Court expressed their opinion.
that they could not allow any thing to be said
'Oust the established religion of the country—the
Christian religion. That is the proposition fur
which I couteitd. I trust it will receive the cone.
thou of your Lordship, .ud that the Defendant ail
not be suffered to promulgate blasphemous doc-
trines as part of his defence."
The Clint JVITICIt" The charge against the
Defendant OW this occasion is the ittahlentliftil of a
book adosnoistiog slid reviling the holy Seri pt ores.
It is not that, in any hook published by him, the
doctrines of revealed religion were discuysed
that respect, temper. and moderation, which ought
to be applied to the discussion of every subject,
man or divine. public or private. It can be lie de-
fence of such a charge, that the party agaiiwt whom
it is preferred should reiterate, in his eddies. to the
Jury, the same sort of calumny of that which is
ountained in the hook, for the publication of whic't
be has been celled on to answer; sod I shook
very ill discharge my duty. as a Judge or a
Christian, if I suffered this Court to be made a
theatre for uttering calumny against the religioil
of the country. Any tbing the Defendant can nal-
wince to the Jury, to explain away what is cosi-
tained in the book, and to shew that its troileocy
is proper. I sin must ready to hear. I wish to give
to this Defendant, as well as to every other periwig,.
an opportunity to defend himself fully nod fairly.
sccordiug to the established law of the land. Ito t
I as not to suffer the law of the hind to he cal .
uiated by arch a defence. I cannot pertain it."
Mr.Carlile" The only (deject I have in view iv
to clear the book.elititled Tile dge of Reason. from
the charge made against it, and to ju-ttly the oh.
setvatioos which it contains on the Old awl New
Testatneut. I presume that book cannot cat f is
ed,on any law of this country. Your Lmilsiiip has
spoken of the law of the laud as applicatile to th,•
case. I should like to have that law pointed oat."
The Cuter Jusrics—" I state that the Chi's.-
tian religion is a part of the law of the t
the most important part—because it is that e.i
which all its tostitsif ere f InJ, and to when
they all refer. I speak of the Christian religion ge-
nerally. There is one particular mole of faith
amongst those who follow the Christiris mission
which constitutes what is celled the established
church; the law of Englend, however, admits evety
other class of Christians to adhere to their relig t
worship, according to their own partscalar faith
tenets. and creed—but it permits to no mats the
right to impugn the whole sum anal sobstance of
the Christian religion, and to treat the book which
contains its doctrines as a mass of lies and Eder-
hoods. I mount permit such r ilefeoce."
Mr. Canute—•• I cannot submit to have my eonsse
of defence masked out for me."
The Cuter Jusrice..." Whether yeas ~.boast
to it or no, I have stated the law, as was toy duly—
and it is not for • WWI, accused of hairime
the law, to rise in it,,. place. and disclaim what is
. what is sot law. I speak in the 'teasing of Gresham'.
who have often attended in this Court—*'d sects of
them as 'mow me will answer for the molt of what I
assert, when I say. that, though 1 lay demos tho
law to them, as I couceive it to be, sessedog to

my judgment, yet, when a question of fact arises,
I leave it, in the fullest manner, to their considera-
tion. But I never will suffer the Holy Scriptures
to he examined ise this Court, fur the purpose of

calumniating and reviling them.
Mr. Carlile—" I appeal to your Lordship, what
proof have we that they are divine ?"
The Clue? Jvrvicw--'s I will not answer such
a 4Jc...wit us thin. You have not, I my, been
brought here to answer for any work containing a
fair and dispossiouate.tonsideration of the Christian
'religion—Ma for a publication reviling and calum-
matilig the Scriptures. And calumnies and reed-
logs, whatever the sub.iect may be, are contrary to
the law of the land. Is it to be eeppoeed, that
the law, which affords protection to every indi-
%lama. has not the power to protect itself? Is
it not to protect those, who. from their youth,
from want of eittrcatitin, or from weakness di mind.
are not so deeply coofirmed in thei► religions feel-
ings as they ought to be, from being exposed to
all those aher►attorts. which. not the force of reason.
hot the influence at* calumny, may occasion ?"
Mr. Carlile—.., wish to arrive at -the same end
—hut we take different ways'of effectingit:"
The CHIEF JUSTICE--v' The d►scuasion is some-
what early —but I will let rut go on, advising you
in keep within the bounds i have pointed out. I
cannot suffer this book to be defended by reviling

Christian the Christian religion."
Mr. Carlite—" If these writings are eif divine
origin. they cannot receive any injury from ievesti-
potion, or from any comment made on them. I
iI I. therefore, go ono a full investigation of this
'question—sad I cannot do that without examining
the honk itself, which gave rise to this work."
The CHIEF JUSTICE" We shall see in what
mode you conduct your defence."
Mr. Carlyle—" I have stated to you that there
are many books existing on the face of the earth,
which are, by certain individuals, believed to be
the revealed word of Goil. One of these I now
1101.1 in my hand. It is believed in by a greater
iminlwr of persons than believe in the Bible. I
the Koran. I will read to you the manner in
svilich it is represented by its author to have been
,scut down by the Almighty. It is contained in the
14th chapter, which is headed-1 Abraham—re-
sealed at Mecca—supposed to be be sent to Maho-
met.' The book, it may be observed. is tilled up
with a great portion of the history of those persons
is hose Haines are to be found in the Old Testa-
ment." [Mr. Carlile read the whole of the chap-
ter. %%hick embraced winos topics, but 'statica-
-1i; ly set forth the joys which God would bestow on
those who served him, and the vengeance he would
oloover down on those whodisobeyed hien.] "This,
Griitlemesi," continued Mr. Cathie, " is a speci-
men of what is called revealed religion. and which
Visy say came down from heaven to Mahoinet. It
iv believed by many millions of men, more than
compose the body of Christians—unit yet, is there
any thing in it comparable with the idea of the
Almighty which is given by Paine? Certainly not.
Anil yet. those who believe it, dislike the Christians,
nod treat them with reproach and contumely. Why,
therefore should such books be considered as the
wiil of God ? and how can we tell that they are
•werthy of hen% so called, unless we examine them ?
will read no more of the Koran. What I have
read is a fair specimen. There are some line moral
lessons in that work, and some beautiful ideas of
the Deity, but they are mixed up with trash which
epoils the whole. Mr. Paine is not the only man
who has investigated the Old and New Testament,
and throttled of their validity. I bold in my hand
It e wink of a man who ranks very high in this
country—who was Ambassador to the Court of
Naples—and is at present a Member of the Privy
Council. I allude to Sir W. Drummond—who
113 s canvassed the Scriptures very freely. The book,
though never published (a few copies only being
iiri:,teil for the author's friends), thews what the
op,, ions of Sir W. Drummond were." [Mr. Carlile
proceeded to read extracts from the work, which we
sir u!!tsdling to publish, at any length, in come-
qoecce of an observation that subsequently Fell
I•out the Attorney-General. Sir William corn-
etruces by stating, that it would naturally be
pork ed. by those who saw this volume. why he caused
a book to be primed. which he had not published ?
The reason was, because he load treated of a work
whieli was said to be sacred—and, to avoid the
calumnies and falsities to which it might give rise,
if published, he had confined it to a narrow
circle. indeed he did not wish his opinions to
be handed about amongst the mob. After oh-
serving, that the ancient Jews had their isoteric and
exoteric doctrines, which were signified by types and
fiures. the meaning of which was not now known,
lie proceeds to express an opinion that the language
of the Old Testament was symbnlical—and he eel,.
sores those descriptions of the Deity in which he
was printed with human passions, and those none of
the best. Nothing could be wore absurd than to
(lentil* the Deity as a material being who dwelt
isi a box of shittitn wood in the temple.).
The AT N OSH
TOREY.GZAL--" 1 object to such
obbervatione."
The Cuts, Josvtc,a--00 They are 'indeed very
offensive. 1 caution the Defendant against taking
that course of defence."
Mr. Carlile—" If it be in opposition to the sense
and feelings of the Jury. I only do myself harm. I
wish to slot w that others wrote on this subject as well
Paine."

The CII F JUSTICE-8' That is not the question.
The questioo, is whether the book published by you
is a blasphemous libel ?"
Mr. Carlile—" I know of no law that takes cogs
nizauce of blasphemy."
The Coin, JUSTICE.....“ There is such a law."
Mr. Carlde--., Then I wish your Lordship
vroohl define it."
The Cuter JUSTICE-1' I have dune so—and
will not again."
ATTORNEY-010161AL ....I 1 The Defendaot
ought to koOw, or those who advise him ought to
have informed him, that he will have an opportu-
nity of appealing to the Court Old of which this
process proceeds—the Court of Ki,g's Bench—
ing% if he pleases, to the lust resort in the couotry,
the Noises( Lords—there he may diicuss whether
the charge be or be not according to Istw. This is
not the piece for that discussion. To the chirp
preferred igsiest him he hes pleaded • /Vol pl,

• •

and the questise now is, whether be be or be sot
guolty.l,,
Mr. Carhle—" I musts as ibis necessary for my
defence, go through thou books."
The Cum James You are est now cis.
minim any book—Ayers Wsserety stating the opi.
n;on of another perinea. V.. cannot ratify one
libel by proving that avistbuf—lst Ass-ssiss nature
let been written."

Mr. Carlile" It ie tl4 PPM' to be a libel, as
yet."
The Com JusTice—s, I will call it by what
name I think propee—but leave it ultimately to be
decided by the Jury."
Mr. Carlile—" 'You may certainly give it what
name you please—but I most defend it to the best
of my judgment."
The CHIEF JUSTICR—I wish you to do so—but
I cannot allow the calumny of another person to be
introduced as a defence for yours."
Mr. Cathie-6i I am aware that I need look for
nothing from your Lordship. 1 stand alone—un-
supported—the array is against me. Sir W. Drum-
mond's work is only a repetition of what may be
found in the Old and New Testament. Hr quotes
those works and reasons on them, and be has a right
'to do so."

Mr. Carlile was proceeding with the passage
which had just been objected to, when
Mr. GURNEY requested his Lordship's inter-
ference.
Mr. Carlile—" You have nothing to do in this
'cause."
Mr. Otiftnrce..." I have the honour of assisting
the Attorney-Gesiersl."
The CRIrR Justice-4, I have told you, that
you cannot justify one calumny by introducing
another."
Mr. Carlile—'l 'ls it not actually the case, that
God is represented in the text as dwelling in a box
of shittim wood in the temple i"
The Cater Joirivel4 Certainly not. Sir."
Mr. Carlile.-1, If my defence be bad. I only in-
jure myself."—He then proceeded to read some re-
marks of Sir W. Drummond, condemning the rea-
son assigned for God's determining not to curse
the earth any more. when he was interrupted by
The ATTetwxY.GZNIIRAt-..who said. " I do
trust your Lordship will interpose. I say, whets •
Defestdint is charged with a publicatioo. attacking
the truths of Christianity, lie cannot he allowed to
defend himself by making new attacks. No men
can be suffered to make this Court the arena where
the calumnies from the pen of Paine, or of any
other writer, are to be promulgated. The object
of the Defendant is evident. He wishes that those
calumnies should come forth to the public is. a:
shape more disgraceful than they have hitherto sp..
peared—but in the discharge of my public duty, I
will take care that such publications shall not peso
unnoticed or unpunished."
Mr. GURSZT—" The Court cannot hear the
statute law, as well as the common law of the land,
treated with contempt. Those who pat the law in
motion proceeded on the common law—hut the
statute of William and Mary is still in force."
Mr. Carlile-4. The Attorney-Geitera4 has not
founded his information on the stature of William
and Mary. He wishes fee a diffettot punishment
than that statute provides."
The CutEr Justice—" I am free to confess
that lam placed in a very delicate situation. mu
unwilling to prevent the Defendant from going on
with what appears to him fit sod necessary for his
defence—but, as a Judge, I am bound not to ad-
mit the law of the land to be insulted in my pre-

srace."•
Mr. Carlile--" I sun Dot aware of having in-
sulted any law."
The SOLICITOR.GHHERAL" I wish to state
to your Lordship what Lord Ellenborough said on
Eaton's trial. When the Defendant was address.
ing him. his Lordship interrupted him. You
have already,' observed his Lordship. begun a
passage, of which I caution you. This is not to be
an opportunity for you to revile the-Christian tali-
gion—and if you persist lit doing no. I will set
only prevent you—but perhaps animadvert en your
conduct in committing an offence which was of thi
most heinous nature in the eyes of the Conn:
Defendant answered—' I have no intention of ofe
fending the Court.'—Lord Ellenborough. observed,
—' You have gut to a passage that is abominable—
you must not read it.' Now, my Lord. the De-
fendant before you says—' I will prove the truth of
what Poise asserts, namely, that there are ebsceni.
ties,inconsistencies, and contradictions in the &bk.'
This, I submit. he can only do, by pursuing the
course ,which Mr. Eaton was checked in, which can-
not he permitted."
The CHIEF JVIITICE" Let the Defendant go
on. if he can advance any thing relevant and ser-
viceable to his cause."
Mr. Carlile•••4 It would be as well if the Soli.
citor.General read a little further, that the Court
might see the result of that discussion."
• The SoLicyroa-Geszaar.--66 Mr. Eaton ob-
served—' I believe what I ant come to is iuMfestsivee
and nothing offensive was afterwards said." •
Mr. Carlile—" The fact is, Lord Ellenbsough
grew angry. and called out repeatedly—'
all—read it all !'..-•hiclo was dane."
The CHIEF JUSTICE--" The Christian relit*
shall not be reviled here."
Mr. Csrlile-6, In what I say, I found myself on
the late statute."
The CHIEF JUSTICC" You made some remarks
on it yesterday. At first I thought your ides was
erroneous; and. on looking into the subject. I see
that an Act was passed, in the time of King Wil-
liam. fur the p • litneut of these whit impugned
the doctrine of the Trinity. An Act was recently
passed, respecting that particular part of the sta.
tine of William. which it repealed; but it leaves
untouched all that is contained in that statute, and
the common law of the loud, for the punishment of
those who impugn the truth of Christianity its ge.
neral. The work in question does not impugn the
opinion of any particular sect. but impugns the
whole of the doctrines contained in the Old and
drew Testament. It is directed against the tepee
of every sect who believe in the Scriptures, sa the
foundation of revealed religion.
Mr. Carlile—" I have been told that the Chris.
tier religion is the law of the land. Now that re.
ligion is founded on the doctrine of the Trinity—
' sod here is a statute dispensing with a belief in the

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Trinity. ind thereby nsalcii altarlt'• the
law of the land."
Cum Juireicn...o I lay it does tact—and 1 will
not hear such s defence."
Mr. Cathle—g, I stand here slow, and I bed
know whit shape my defence ought to take."
The GUIST JIISTICI—" In your own opinion. it
may be so—bat it is for me to look to the ler'
course of defence. II you cannot proceed without
reviling
_the Christian religion, you cannot defend

yourself."
Mr. Carlik—" The low iii qaeation allows roe to
proceed in this course, fur it tolerates Drism.".
The ATTORNItY•6II/IFIAL—,, One part of the
statute of William and Mary is repealed. but the
remainder is in force. It is there treated as a great
offence for any persons to deny the Christian reli-
gion to be true, or the Scriptures, namely the Old
and New Testament, to be of divine origin."
Mr. Cerlile-4, I do not know on what the
Christian religion is founded, except on the doc-
trine or the Trinity."
The CHIEF JUSTICZ--" If you have any good
legal defence, proceed with it."
Mr. Carlile—" I do not know that I am wrong.
If there be an allegation. that I have publoshed a
work in which it is stated that there is an obscene
&tory in the Bible, surely you would not prevent
me from referring to the Bible to prove the troth of
the assertion ?"
The Cam Jomer—" I cannot bear this. The Bible is
the history of a sinful people, and of the veugeauce of God
oe them."
Mr. Quitle--N I do think the Bible is true, as a history."
[Cossidemble agitation was created in the Court by this
declaration. Murmurs of dissatisfactior were beard from
every quarter.]
Mr. Cawlile was proceeding with another passage from Sir
Drnmmonffis honk, when he was interrupted by
The SoLterrost-Gesesat, who objected, that he was
going on in Ilse way which bad already beers deprecated by
the Court.
The Cuter Jointer—" I cannot allow it. If lam mis-
takes there are means of correcting my error—bet I driest I
ma sot mistakes whew I say, that I nutlet sad owed wet sot
its my place and suffer any panos to revile the Holy
Scriptures."
Mr. Carlile-14 I have no wish to revile, but merely to
examine them."
The Cuter JosTrest—" Examination does not catisiet
and mama be supported by, bold denials. hisa repetitive
of the offence."
Mr. Csrlile--" Can we compel our minds to receive as
true what we do not believe because there is a law iu sup-
port of it'"
The CM'? Juseree—w As long as a man keeps his opi-
ohm to himself, it is of no couseqiieure to Ike community,
andnoknoman roller Cali take comsmatice of it."

Cartils.-:" Year Lordship's oboe...ratios.a argue wo-
thing hot the olensrdity of legislatsug on matt. re of °pluton
Ile was proceeding with Sir V. [lmmo...la's work. whew
The Soucecoa.theureutt. await iwierrapted hits. The
Defradaat,.he said, waisted i. prove that other persons had
written ow this subject as well as Mr. Paine, which he eon-
teeniest tossed no point of de4eace.
The Omer Jt7STICC-...." 1 roust allow such a coterie to
be token." . _ .

Mr. Carlik-0 I have a right to go on with what I think
orcessary for my defence."
The Coto, Jugrtite--." Yon have no right to go on with a
defence of a mischievous assure. It would be a high leis-
dewclaor in me to show it."
Mr. Carfile--" My wish is to ,lefenfi my conduct from the
loopier of malicious elocution. In the course of their
practice, these I...need Genii. men quote preeedenis on all
uccssions—why then should not I quote Sir W. Druntswood,
a man of great talent and research?
Timelessly Joerice—" His book hos nothing to do with
the case before the
Mr. Cmlile—" Die authority of Sir W. Drummoud is as
good as that of ford Elleriboroogla."
The Come Joyner—l' You had better conduct yourself
wish propriety."
Mr. Carlik-0 I. my mind, the authority of Sir W.
Druninsoad pommies far greater weight."
The Ctrs er Jusetcr-4 Don't suppose, because great for-
bearance has been *hewn that there may not come a time
wiles forbeararite must
Mr. Carlile—" I dose% want forbearance, I only want
)ustite."
The Cuter Joshes--..' Justice you shall have, secordiwg
to law ; but. to let you proceed contrary to law, would aol
he justice. Ii is so jostilleation fur you to say that others
have committed the swam °Wear..."
Mr. Cartile—l, I am not willing to take your Lordship's
opinion that it is an offence."
The enter James—" 1 have said. all along, that the
character of the pahlkation would be ultimately left to the
decision of the Jury."
Mr. Cathie Wm proceeding, but the Solicitor-Goseral
erne isterposed.
The Come Jumce--il I say. it is ito justificative; but
still I would not prevent the Defeo/taut from going on, if the
violation he not offewshve. I do nut know that to be the
week et Sir W. Drismotetad."
Mr. Carille--" It is his, for it has hems answered by the
Clopleia so the Archbishop 41 Canterbury. That is the
best way to elicit truth. Sir W. Dramorood's name is
to it."
The Cater Jusvict—N No matter be Omen it is written.
I esoorat stay in this place and hear the clothiers of Christi-
salty Impugned."
ler_Carlilm—" It is sot yet proved that I have committed

MSC."
The Cease Jerevect—" I knew thet—l have stated mi all
aloe m ; bet you 'teem Nut revile awl calumniate the Christine

religio-o." -
Mr. Carlik—" Ido sot calssintiate. I wish to eater on a
fair remiss' lots."
The Cars JUIITICE...4 You are sot allowed, steadier is
say ass, to read in this place matter ealumeiatieg the Holy
Scriptures."
Mr. Corlett —" It is art caloseniatieg."
The Foresees of the Jury now addressed his Lordship.
He said the Gentlemen of the Jury thought the Deedless
could sot de hititerilf say advice by going on with sec •
defense.
Mr. Corlile—Ja ha I to uoderstand that to be the sesti-
meet of the Jog?"
Several Joryases-sx excision."
After a short palm, Mr. Cackle proceeded. Ile at length
some to a passage is which Sir W. Drusesseed slated that
be did sot believe God had ever *pokes to Moots.
Mr. Gustav esibmitted that this was a desist of the
truth sod divide origin of part of the Old Testament. sad
woe prsiebsble by the statute law. it could sot therefore be
tolerated is that Cowl.
Cardis....os To what are we to appeal, if sot to
Yemen r
The Cater Juovicall You are charged with publishing
a cabmen oe the Christie. religion..-sficw that the hook
deep set costaio suck .c•loassy. Yoe essoui prove that
there is so calumny is it by seeding works of a similar
satire"
Mr. Carlile—ft There are passages in the Bible which I
view with a mod loam es your Lordship dots this hook.
Ids sot believe Ober-yaw Leedship deo% or yes profess
the* yes do. Ned it is son by rending costroversial die.
pates us the milmjese of Mips% That we ma User what is
right or what Is Intone
The Cuts, latiNsed..." We are sot hero trying the verity
of pariongire of 11et%4 teasel pot It Is the Jury to soy
whellate Shell* contain the of God. This
cannot healed is • las assotry."
Mr. Illsildessifi I a
mabliged tor reedjii rey defuse% things
dill Jo self, sod which 1 soda sot read if
I were set beds a '
The Casa Yes ere set canipolird. It tea
AID yip Ile derviret to rend pampa ids Nails, tendescy with
Shots whisk you ter dome Sidi herds' pabliehed."
Mr. Geddes."' As there is so ether peeler is thie book

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is my 44,194, saw p die Iti al
work, whfifils vedlls
tie*. I n ewty dipoles se &Jamb.
of whet fahave dpeari•lf ealegoe-
trirp I, the Obis& oflibeJ WA Mill it w oleol
fur beneviot that 1 act from etwviHhow =L Mr:truffibt
'ambito! a large Bible, goblet was interleaved for the pur-
pose of erteriorg remarks on different passages.)—The. Old
Tema/rent. like many otber,hooks, begins wills giving an
accosted of the geoatioiro—Cfr. Carlde bete read severed
verses from the book of Grosesie—t In the beginning Goal
crested the heaven sod the earth; Str.)—" Now ((Alkalinised
he) I have ty stsfie to you, that tint part of society redo he•.
Sieve in this brook, differ io Yneir ideas of the account of tbit
creation. Suit'se believe it ty he an allegory—others consider
it a statement of a real trosipaction. Some of the greatest
fathers of the Christi/in Ctureh, one of whom was (hips,
considered it in allegory.. 11'hen we see persons, who call
themselves Christians, and who rest all their Attire liaises as
this book, differing on such a poiesace, I think an indivisloil,
whose wind is not wade op on the subject, is at liberty to
inquire into the rentoodt offered, foe one party beliethipt it to ,
be an allegory, End the other foe taking It literally. Moses
is stated le be tbeidtther of the book of Genesis, hot I thiak
it is proved by Paine that be dill not write it. Whether it
was written by him 0k nlit did n3t, hooey's. invalidate the
work. When pot reads tln the beginning God created the
heaves and the earth,' the philosopher naturally labs, what
logginionsg? If it Wets said. from the beginning of time,
then the world hail Masted through all etersoity, for, to deny
the eternity of time, is to deny the eternity of God. But
this doctriae did not cobteidewith dolt of she Old Taiwan's,
although it was founded its reason." Mr. Carllle was then
prweeesliag with an iliqniv)s into the nature sod probability
of inch a revelation as was mentioned in the Old Testament,
but was interrupted by
The At-reamer G a, who submitted that no such
inqiiiry could he rune into
The Cutts Jurrser--14 It is* very difficult thing to shop
• promo on his defence, at the comnoracement of every sea.
hence. I would wish to err on the side of forbearance rather
than of severity. Of all eases that can be brought into a
Court of Ju.sire, this is the most painful to a Judge. his
not connected with the politics or properly of the country,
but with its religion. The person mo the Boor says I peeks.
to be a believer its Christianity. I feel myself called ow to
say, that I am a firm believer in Christianity. It is most
painful to me sod to the Gentlemen of the Jury to hear the
observetions of the Defendant, but mill it is a nice and this
fienit point to stop him."
The ATTORNILV-GVIICRAL said, an inquiry into revels.
lion eoulsl um be allowed.
Mr. thing elf—'• Ilia Lordship has declared it cannot be
admitted "

The Clue, luerire—" I have said over and over again
that we are not to inquire into the truth of the Christian
religion—hut I am unwilling to stop the Defendant till his
observations become offensive.
Mr. Carlile--" The infiomation charges, that the hook
which I have published describes the Okl Testament to con-
loin obscene stories and volieptlMOSl debaucheries, and to be
a history of vrickethsess that has served to corrupt and bru-
talise mankind. Another account charges me with publish-
ing a book in which the Bible is slated to he foil of intuit-
sivtencies and coatradictioor. Now, bow can I defend my-
self, hilt by 'hewing the troth of the book I hire published.
If I do prove its truth, I can plead that I published it wills
• good intention "
The Cotter Jurrece—', You cosset go into the truth of
the Christian relights."
Mr. Carlik—" It is a smut inspmper question, I admit,
to be brought before a Court of Justice."
The Cuter Jusrice—" Whatever you moo state to the
Geatlemeso of the Jury, that is proper and relative to your
case, shall be Word."
Mr. Cartels..." But I most inquire into the truth of the
Old Testament."
The Cuter Jusetea" No, Sir. As I have said before, it is
the history of • *Sorrel people, end of the Divine vengeance.
The Gentlemen of the Jury, I have nu doubt, are well sc.
qusiuted with it."
Mr. Carlik--", You have not pointed out the divine origin
of the Scriptures. I am mot of opinion that it is divine ;
and t wish to stale my reasons for holding that *pinkie "
The Carer Jorricir—“ Behave with decorum, and I will
interrupt you."
Mr. Carlile—A Ido not wish !o offend any person. It is
sot my iateation. Bat what I conceive to Ise tenth, I will
gowssalgate, be the coneeqnesore what it may." •
The Cutter JosTiee—" I will take epee that you shall
sot promulgate is this place any thing that is improper."
Mr. Carlile—" Your Lordship has of course reed the case
of Galileo. He made a great iraprovemest in astronomy,
and was arraigned for his opinions before the Etteleekstieal
Tribunals of his comstry. The alternative was allowed hint,
Mitre to die at the stake or to retract his opialowe •
to save his life he did change his opisious, though
he was convinced of their truth. He liewever eatleavoured
privately to disseminate these opinions—bet was discovered
--and the religious Government of that comatry good ruined
him to three years' iniprisorineest. But, before the expire-
tioa of that time, the truth of his opinion, that the earth
was sot flat, bet unsaid, sad that the sun did mot move round
the earth but the earth mond the moo were established and
admitted by his persecutes... Who thee will vesture to stop
human improvemest ? Who will say we have gone far
enough ? I believe, from coavietios, having considered the
subject, and got all the information I could cossetted with
it, that the book which is called the revealed will of God, is
a blasphemy of that God.—[A asurinar of isdigastion per-
vaded the Court.]
The Cater Jurrice--" This is too mach."
Mr. Carlile—u I can stale reason fur my belief. lam
supported by Sir W. Drmatmorml, a man of the Sweat edema-
ties, and who had made the most extensive inquiries thole-.
man mind could reach. las deeply impressed with the
impropriety of briugiag such. subject before a Court °rhos-
tier but I must either do that, or go to a prison, front which
perhaps l er be liberated. The coasequenes is dread-
ful to toe. either get the Attortory-Geseral to with-
draw the Cale roan the Court, or enter ow my defame in the
way I 11.41.nist likely toner my purpose."
The C orrice-4 There is soother alternative—to
conduct yourself with dereney sad decorous."
Mr. Carlile.---" I am insensible of any indecorum."
The COMP' JUIITICU—" Whether you are immutable, sir
Calk*Ol be mark seasibk, it is right that I should diteltgote,
when you misconduct yourself."
Mr, Carlile.--", There is a statute which supports Delliz:
The CIIIIP Justice-0 You may couswieut on
statute."
Mr. Cariik—J' There i s a ttatets by which it is .sand,
that, to implore lire doctrine of the Trinity is sot as
It is the law of the lead."
Mr. Gustier —" That pert of the statute of William and
Mary is is force which readers it criminal for any seas to
deny the Christian religios to be true, or the Script sees to
be of divine origin."
Mr. CAsrlile—" Why did sot the Attorsey.Groseral found
his information on that statutes"
The Cuter JUSTICII—" Because he did not think pro-
per to do so. That statute imposed certain penalties, mil
he conceived it was better to proceed on the oessason law.
He was justified iu doing so. A riot is punishable by coos•
mon law...bat, as in the ease of disturbing a essogregistion,
it may be punished Wider a particular statute, at the option
of the cosoptainieg party. •
Mr. Cartile—m Yes, but the riot is &dried. The Riot
Aet states what shall be desonsinMed a riot. This is net
the case here. Them was an Act in otistewer which allowed
Memos to impose the doctrine of the Trinity, us which the
Christian religion is founded—sad by so doing, soespected
Delano, and admitted the mature of that religion to
the investigated I was extremely unwilling to be brought
biet—for I think a Coed of lasika a most improper
piste let such • subject. If a book be published,
mestaiaing questionable wirings, they ought to ha cor-
rected by the latervention of the press. I am charged,
Is the isformatioto, with having excited ' the great dis-
pleasure of Almighty Gud!' la wet this a rem assomm.
ties ? Is it see Itimpharm ? We might to veseente the
Deity—and not speak of him as if he more subject to lira.
isms pensiose sad fisilliee. I think I have shows that
Paine bad • wow sahliene idea of the Almighty Has the
Baran contained. I will go future, sod soy, that levied a
higher motion of the Divinity than is to he dosed is Old
Testament. I have se wish to proceed under continual in-

ferrseprluss—it is, imilresi, impossible that 1 ran yror,, .1-..
but, 1 ass sure, if ally thing I offer in my del'. WI, I* ll.li
justification of my conduct, I alone will be du. sidfs rr,, Ii
the hook I wished to read he the work of the Moly, st s A!,
nut be injured or shakes by the observations of an; ns
It Si, is my opinion. not the work of the Wilt."
The Cuter IIISTIlelt—“ You are sow eircutill.: az s .s.st
law which has bees quoted more than once."
Mr. Carlile—'4 Ass Act of Parliament cannot res:ry
The CVIIIIP JUITICE-.J4 It may restrain the r itprmion of

Mr. Carlite-14 My ease is similar kV that of fis!dei. ,„
Whose defence no man stood forward. If Mato., tool t05..1
srit the Continent when hr made his ilivrovrs we. he e,„,.!.1
have been treated in the mine way that *as. /4,
SLEW etierve was pursued towards all twos oho
sisite bigotry and Upeorasee. Locke, if I rer..11.1.1 vrtoks,
was expelled the l'stiversity ou account of the for,:on„
his ianitiossa. Ile did not deny the Christi4to
he welt very near to that point--aail it C4llllOl Ity
that the 11th and 111th of William and Mary was ,„ ,
divot measure, to check the irisculation of his writoor. ,„4
opinions. The Attorney-Generalewpit::::sflea,..:,l
the r,ul ,rite
of Locke, sad in may That great mats lays,' Iteai me%
can jedire of relation.' 1 could
mated, whether k am 10 do iota that derelict., it his lk I

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cries to be isty only derma., or to he pat d..ao
carrot level, be put doter. Who 1 lore to s.),ro my
defeace I Mirk the Cowl is bona., to hear.

The Cuter Jutetch-14 the Canes i. not l I 1.0,.-n
the Christian religion impugned."
air. Catlike-0 I mist .ay, that the Act 1.1 h I I.3re
. . . .. . . .

aliiidea, by dispensing with belief in 'be Ti 'mit}, admits thy
Cbrislion religion to be impugned."
The Cent Jbniet stem ',ouch shin:-

Mr. Corlett II tolerates others in dame it. Fur
who realty are attached to the Christina reliciiiu, tom.:
litre Jesei to be a part of the Godhead—aliu h ductrine
mum impnested by this Art. The Atiorney General hierielr
has been bred in the Unitarian belief—he has basal Instill
the Unitarian chietrines--doeti into which be overthrow
the divinity of Jews—and, if you drairur OM 4
Jesus oust be a nsan—there is no medium I fid
awful veneration fur the Deily. lu runver.alims I arm r
appeal to his name in vain. Ile resides only in my mind.—
he is very %Alone in my speeds. The a hole face of the
earth is peopled by ordinal Fl4l difFer from each u liar in
ibeir opinion, of the Deity. dull
this ennuis y there are
dreds of sects of Christians—they are around inunliarrah:e—
and they feel the Woman jealonsy,ainl indulge in the grraii st
bickeriusu tortoni, each other. Hum then is it .pumilile to
arrive at a knowlehge of what is right or Veruu, 1,111111116;s
/edge foe ourselves s The difficulty here arises Crum the im-
propriety of briefings rpirdinn of this kind Mi. a ('our! of
Justice, where cannot be Steely and fairly jiidg• aciurd.
. .

ing to the polestar the Court. It would rlo o to Ili, At.
turney.General, ifhe Wollt4l midst/raw the rerorii, out. I
nut offer in toy defence what 1 deensaircessaty I as wet
a barrister, who sets according to Ilse staleuerist C1.10i3.11. J i".r
his brief, and has no opiniuu of his own. I slue 111411 put..
lislied certain opinions, and those opinion. 1 801 rroh 1,,
defend. It is well known, and 1 ant sure lour

cannot contradict me, that there arc many p4.savii i I ti e

Old Testament which cinema be reconciled with Ira 0,.

with the feelings of delicacy. It is, I fear, a dislike to home '
them repeated, which induces your Lordship to wield nr-
from proceeding!'
The Cider Jurrice---gg It it not any such fooling th,t
aetuates me—but an swfal veneration fur the Fero poises It
is not competent for you to defend yourself, by impugning
the troth of the Christiew refigion, with winch our $0,4 of
eternal happinew ere so nearly connected."
Mr. Carliterintied that he had imagoes' Christiaa*:ty.
The toter Jtorrtet—" 1 heard you say, that belief in the
Scriptures was blasphemy to God."
Mr. GIURNIKT-." The Defendant said, It is my firm
belief, that the Bible is not the revealed will of Ger.-
Mr. Carlile repented, that some parts of the 0:4 Testa-
ment abounded in morality, while others, he nsui.t 1/6TI IC,
litre revolting to the feelings of any reflecting
wished to publish a book of morality, according to the pre-
vailing moral doctrines. If those parts of the dear I.
which he alluded were published by thinner's.. s, is world
subject him or any other individual to a proseritti..a h) the
Adoessey,Geoeme—nr, if he slid nut amorist% he timid be
gritty of a stmelietion eta* duty. He bid already rtale.t
that the statute harridan Deism. It did so, heraufie it
tolerated Unitarianism. Re visa !Unitarian, and tkerefute
a theist—aril, being a Helot, he was therefore a Usitarms.
The words Trinitarian and Uokaeia• inre oppuiral to
each other' to distiogulth the believers in the T • y front
those who did eel agree to that doetrioe. The Ohl 'riga-
went, it ought to be okmerved, wee never placed by the Jess
in the lauds of their children--and the clergy of the
Romish church eadleavoored to keep Ms Scriptures td or 1130/
laity by retainiog them in an obscure tongue. It was to
this country elate that the copies had beets greatly
plied, and placed is the hands of all ranks ant ages.
Ha
now called the attention of the Court to the History of the
English Bible, which, as it was printed fur the Religion'
Tract Society, his Lonisbip might essay cum:tit e d
nothing offeusive."
Mr. Carble thee mad the sown extract entitled 1, The
History of the English Bible," after the concholiog war&
of which, via.—Thus, after the lapse of almost 100 year:
from the first appearance of the English mimed Scripture*
by the labours of Tynan', we are come to the present au•
Mooriaod version; of which it has been rentaikrJ, that
m it is the birthright of row numerous popnlatior,
au S
km proved the amass of karoartedge, loolioess, nail joy
to halls. u; and we must it is destined, for ages yet to
cow, to be the glory of the rich, and the inherit:me
of the poor; the guide to the way-worn pilgrim: awl
the messenger of peace to many a dying sinner." lye
said that in the latter Joy a Mr. Bellamy bad started so,
who denied the correctness of thin version, awning. OM
in many pasts it did nut agree with the original Whim
proposed writing a new traitaatioe, arid got some of tie
Bishops and the Prince Regent to subscribe for cophs
Why then did not the Attorney-General prosecute Mr. N.
tangy fur saying, as he in fact had, that the Scriptural Ys
which must be meant the aethorised translation) Ilia not ron•
tale the word of God? After some other obarrestions he pno-
ceeded. He could not boast of having got a imenoSoilisra-
dos. He ran through a reentry school in the way mesa hers
do, up to the age of twelve; and Whatever learning he had ac-
quired slum, was in the time be hail spared from his row
ployment and the calls of his business ; but, nidwithotaad.
lege hi had perused a variety of eiseaniestaturs un the
them all disagree, that eitettowiance crealit4
.diebee in his mind, old/beaded iu the.yimiunitdw axe
ME He had been hesoglot se in the doelotne of the
Chnetian Clsimb, and bin mother hard to derma them wo
him with weather earnmlaess. It woe from the mooch/s-
-eism of similar doubts to the people stmeally that the
Bishops in Romer limpet universally prohibited the readier.
of the teriptows. His intention was to go throogb that en;
a the Wok examined by Mr. Paine, and if he should rita-
Mile that they ameetly aimed is the reparsentatiou of thew
given by Mr. Paine, he waaratitled ton verdict of
He Theo, after several remarks es the *Wows hetet( t.•
fermi to. toed objective* cunstaally over-roled, commentoi
reading sod coutiondhog on the two first chapters of Geom. r
Mier which he moil a tenet hoot the book on whirl, the in,
formation is groomiret, minded Extract of a Ilrio to
the Boolosp of Lloodelf."
After the Defindeme hod mentleded reediag, Cot
be bad made it clear from Mr. Poises work, that Mr. P
had Amino dial the book of Joh was orifice prior to lbe
book of Genesis. Navin rend Mr. Paine's letter to Lora
Erskine, us doe Bras sod third deepens of Genesis, shall
mow proceed to the fourth.—[Here He Defeadmit
to read the fourth chapter NI Geneeis,J.-Cle that put wine
It is mated that the Lard hod set a mark on Cain, the De-
feating said, That the mrowseeleters oh 11w Ribk were
much roasted as to what this amok was; some said it es.
the meet on the African—some, the mart on the laloistu"
abet no see, he said, mold give a fair unarm of is. Hr
Mr said AM is the difierot entenlogiera accounts is
Bible, is moat ewe ilmacermoto disarm with each all,"•
After remeilig am pert where the 'lan is said to hire °-
pealed for havimgetwatod man; IA attempted to common 03
the PooMPIK He esid it mode our 'Saviour a mere boom
being-isto repast of an action wog tomes* of • Gal.
Meader immraoe here letrlttlfted Hie
Lordship said, this Atte; dire Vln dew hori