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enweleiee et the Hem- Bop
wet, wee truly alarmist.—
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be utterly impossible to collect the eeledoesials of
soy large politic meeting; that st a time whoa the
public mind was agitated, it was impossible meals
lect the opistious of so liege and respectable • body
of men as the 'lurches's, bankers, sad traders of
the City of London. If this siatemeal weft nee,
it settolded a mate of 'hills deeply la be des
plaid ; for to him
itappeared to be indispose
'ably necessary for "Roblin that House to cob
to • jest sod proper decision spots goestioses
of WPM p.bhc iota:ere, that it should be correctly
informed of the anstiments and opinion+ of the
country et large. The Hoisourable Basooet
had aloe said, that he did net satirely approve of
the Deelaration• agreed ups* at the London Ties
vern, because in his opinion it did not gw fir
views's, the times bring such as, tit um the Hem
lies otaites own phraseology, readereent nememry to
up his Majesty bye declaration of loyalty and
.11111achmessi so his perm* asi Gosserimmiat, which
Hossourable lioromet had explained to mess;
that he wholly approved of the modect of hie
Misiesty's Ministry. Trule each Declarations
must be extremely Battering to his Majesty;
it tonic give his Majesty the highest Soloist.
son to be told that mainsates of loyalty and
attachment to his person sod Govevmoeut mesa'
nothing more nor less than an approval of the con-
duct of his Ministers. If the Honourable Baronet
found it impossible to collect the sentimeats of
large public meeting, bow diAlcult mast it be to
others to collect the mainieme of men whose real
. meanings were mooch at variaace with the fans
of their expression,. as was the Hem. Barooet's es.
pituation to which he hid jaw alluded.
Mr. Wet.Ls made a few shaermaimis in defence
of the condom of those ohs signed the loyal Dechs
ration, which he said purported only to be the ta
clambers of those who Nosed it, mid oat of Mee.
chants. Bankers and Traders a the City of Loads
n
in general. The How Gentleman stated, that whets
he a der. admission to the hastingo.eif the
meeting he Was rettieed,sod the
sumuoilkikftt wm, that he was Roe one of the- re-
-960 Woonniaid, he WlNelell only treat&
latatimowith • few remarks on what bad ham
ii.li Hon- Gesilemee who had just sat slttws
..1111‘finegittlie worthy Baronet opposite. His
11.0allearlit, who had isitrodoced the Petition,
I.alsted iss she House, and mast correctly, the ordetiy.
Ageoseseja winch the proceedings at dos,
agmtaohid • and ha should be able to skimollketilie
11' piummils et she Hon. Dorsett and his frier& arias
Igaly awe of all the. ',utopian whieleirectirrod.
I am. Baronet thedgfit:4lllece„ r to premed. is ei
~Iptstings fall half an heel before the Ili=
:go emoting comasessc*l.-noal before he'
seat he went forward aid airmail isiormalt satin
very great style, as mock as to say, w Mere I
Gentlemen ;," whet it was very well known to the
Hon. Baronet thin he never could abets himself to
any large assembly in the City without a mender.
aide degree of noise ensuing.—(Longleme4.-He
mold not 'ascent how the Hon. Baronet• mold
say that the sentimearaof the meeting "sold aid be
ascertained, when thirldoompreble Betimes himself
row ersdy to admit at the time, ihaCtlawiteeolll-
- were carried by three to ouseets-s(thlear.)s-•
That was the Hon. baronet's own espeession at
the lime. With respect to the Petition not hew-
ing been proposed to the meeting, the Lewd Mayor
bootleg read the wholenfit out. It weever, popsibb's
indeed it was highly probable, that the noise made
by the Hon. Baronet's friends might have pre-
vented its being heard by many persons who were
present ; but that ems a circuturtance by no sense
unusual in large assemblies. How many, for in-
stance. of the Gentlemen now its the House, had
heard the speech of the Mon. Minutia who spoke
last i But the Lord Mayor, with that anxiety
for which he was distinguished, to cooduos the
business io the fairest manner possible, after he
bad done. reading it, held it up, and in as loud, a
voice se• he was able, called out, " This is the IPe-
titio," and put the question that it he agreed to ;
and be would appeal to•the Hen. Member steer hem„
who was present. on the occasion, to bear his out
in his assertion, that on the thew of hem& the
uutubers appeared to be as tire to one in its fa-
vour. The Moiseureble Gentleman had complain-
ed that he was not admitted to the hustings,.
end that all who did not sirs or support the
Requisition were excluded. How that had hap-
petted he could not tetl;. but perhaps the Ho-
tioarable Gentleman would say whether he was
uue of the body of about three hundred who
Mae together, about an hour before the meeting,.
for the purpose of occupying the Hall, to the ex-
clusion of the Requisitiounte. The Lord
. whose eouiluct on all occasions was marked with
the minuet possible fairness, gave to those Gentle-
:west a room at the Mansion House for their occoin-
Soudiition previously to the °petting of the meeting,
allowed a number of then to pass through the
parlour to the hustings its the same manner as the
Requisitionists. Mr. llosatiquet, and several ode*:
whose uptowns eccortisk with those of the Mew
Geoiletnau, addressed the meeting, and were *sit.
- fairly and attentively listened to ;. indeed lie was
confident that twenty of the same way of thinkiug:
might have also delivered their sentiments if t
, bad been so inclined, and would hoot met with,
repeal attention; our could the lints. Berosiet Nifty_
draw a conclasiou to the contrary. front the circus,-
'Aimee of the uproar oCCeennord by his appearance,
rots he well knew that lie never could thew himself -&
at a CO4IIIIIOO Hell, or any other loyal moustimig • lir
the City, without causing considerable ems* Vag.
confnsiun-
Mr. *lemma said, that the only lesson which he'
could assiipi. for the conduct of the Itleclaraiionielse
at the event% at the Monsoon Homo., was that-
which he gathered from the statement of the Hon.
• Baronet opposite, which led- bra to infer that it
was. intended to prove that public meetings were,.
as county meetings had been calletite-eforce. 'rho'
meeting having been convened by public advertise-4
scut, circulars were tarot round to the friends if
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mei privy ton .' not, hot w m00t.....-, _ _
Mealy ferseed fee the purpose bas fee which that
meeting would have gone of as peaceably and or-
derly as any ether had done. The Hoe. Gentle-
emu said, that the loyal Declaration, as it wee call-
ed, purported only to be the Declaration of the
undersigoed, and not of the merchants''bankers,
and traders generally. He admitted that it did so
appear in the body of the Declination; but the
plot:aids which were posted above, to point out the
places where it lay for tipsters.. designated it as
the loyal Declaration of the Merchants, Bankers,
and Traders of the City of London. It was not et:.
emery for hies to defend the loyalty of the persons
of that description wise taped the Petitiou now
Montt to be presented ; that was not new the ques-
tion, but whether the prevent wee a peeper occo.
Nam for making a public declaration of it. The
Declaration stated that disalfectiois had been excited
amen the people by the circulation of blasphe-
mous and seditious blicatioos. Now, although
mud
be the Other :ticeens acknowledged that fa
ra there was a eumidera le degree of agitati of the
public mind, yet they swiped other causes for it :
they diesel* they could Mace it to other sources, and
chicly to the late proceedings against the Queen ;
and therefore it was that they creek' slot allu a such
a stetement to go forth uncontrodieted ; but chiefly
were they induced to adopt this Petition me a
Counter-Declaration, by the kuowledge that the
loyal Declaration, like misty others whieb had pro-
ceeded from other parts of the count"t was designed
as an expiessiou of °plateau sou the other side. It
llideitsflitt, proceed front the Treater,. Ministers
twit convenient to draw some of this ladle-
411111mater frees the merchants of the City of Lon-
ilk .to give otenething like au appearance of a
.rillirm approval of their promeditip. There wale
,Ils .ascessity for any declaration of loyalty ; it was
allipeesible to qmstiou the loyalty of the great body
.0f the people. The immense bodies of people which
Jksid of late frequently beers assembled together in
iib=twithout displayi fog any symptoms of
.'disturbauce, fully proved the gene-
.inl dispedlisis of the people to be pettedly loyal.
The loyalty of Englishineu was a rational feeling,.
aid feissoSed ea principle ; but if any thing could
• laMeiblet weaken that feeling, the late proceedings
of Miuisters. tending es they did, to bring royalty
into disrepute. were eminently calculated to produce
that effect : and therefore it was that the Mer-
chews,. /Jeukenr, Arad Traders of the City of Lon-
don, whom eignateres were alined to that Petition,
Atli themselves called open to prote.t *pit* thee.
It was tee trifling matter that his Majesty should be
brought by the conduct of his Ministers into such,
•-asitatettee at to want the cheering up of the Hon..
Jaroolo.-v-Illeer, keeta.).-He did not mean to
Rey Ilia i he might not be in need of it —Weer,
Lear)—but how lamentable was it that a King
alwspiA;bs brought bit the conduct of his Ministers
• , - a degree 4 unpopularity, us tole out -.
ithonge his part horses wheatravelling in any,
mratitry town, without being mowed to insult and
,iedlgnity ? Such, he lamented to fey, was the case
el pommus in ibis kingdom; bet such espressions
ellpipslar feeling argued Nothing iu ready evilest
111101•yelty of the people. Alter the deesuestro
time of respect and affection which Here called
forth by the lamented death of the Princess Char-
lotte,. and of his late Majesty, it was impossible
to doubt the general attachment. of the people to
the monarchy; and it was too much for patient
ituduresice that royalty should be dragged through.
the dirt as it had been of lite by the Noble Leak
and hiscolleaeues.—(Cheeriag.)
Mr. T. Wri.soe said, that if the Petitioners had.
contented themselves with expressing their own
opinions, without attacking the motives and inten-
tions of those who had signed the Loyal Devisee.
tiou, the latter would not have edited any oppon-
tion to the proceedines at the Mansion House.
Me. Peet.etrs said, that he happened to be
among a number of the friend's( the Hon. Reroute at
the meeting, and they by. hissing, shouting. and
groaning, produced the utmost confusion, and then
thieve very loyal Gentlemen..those declared friends of
social order, turned round and exclaimed agatest
public meetings oat account of the tumult and di.-
order which they themselves had produced. How
it could now he contended that the Resolutions were
not carried, lie could not conceive; for the Hon.
Baronet himself said at the time that there could
be no doubt this they were carried.—[Sir William
Curtin, across the House, said it was a mistake.)—
He heard what the Honourable Baronet said at the
time, and lie certainly so understood him.
Sir W. CIUR7IS said, that it was a great mistake
to suppose that be had ever said the Resoletimis
were carried.
The Petition was then read.
Mr. J. Sams said, lie wouldtdetain the House
burn few riiiritites wilt% he explained that be had
not intended to speak with any disrespect of the
gentleineu who had signed the loyal Declaration,
ininy of whom werohis friends, and one nearly. re-
, luted to him. Had lie been aware of their electing,
he would have attended and moved an smendment.
Tbe Petition wes then ordered to be pointed.
Mr. J. SlilllTH said, that believing. as he did, that
nothing could be better. calculated, indeed, that
uothiug else could ever restore the public need to
its former tranquillity but the resiwatiou of the
Queen'. name to the Liturgy, lie had intended to
make a motion on the subject;. het finding that
another Hon. Geutietuan had given notice of a
motion having the segue ohjeut„ lie should be happy
when it was brought lorwaid, by giving it hie warm-
est support,. to co-operas with that Hon. Gentle-
wan iu the eirdemour to restore the peace suel trait-
quillity of the cosaistry.—( Hirer, hear.)
Sir ROUST HEIIOII- said, that from the strongest
conviction of the art:rarity of the insertion of her
Majesty's name iii the Liturgy.. us a means el ,
allaying the agitation of the public trawl, he hod,
given notice of a motion hieing that measure Gm•
its object ; but he was- et the time wholly uncon-
acioue of the Hoti.,.oentleman'S intention. But
after What that Hon. Geutleman, had stated, and
sensible that front the citcunistatece of his being
charged with the expression of the seutiments of su
large, respectable, and influential a portion of the
community as the metChilatei beaker., and traders,

Londe., it most cod!, *ids such
trodld now withdraw his
the Simi perfect satisfaction its
hands et the Hos. Membee.
then gave notice, that he *boobd
13th inst. move an humble Ad-
Makety, praying hies to invert the
name of the Queen in the Liturgy.—(Cheere.l
lONIAN ISLANDS.
Colonel DAVIES moved for Returns of the
Militia of•the lonian blinds ;' of the Pensioned
Knights of Malta ; and of the Arrears of iiegi-
mental Acrounts.—Ordered.
KILWAINRAN OUTRAGE.
Lord JOHN Ressitu. pastpoued boo police of
the Petition complaining of a military outrage at
a meeting of the county of Dublin, held at
.nutinboorn, to Wednesday nest.
LIBEL IN THE LONDON GAZerrr-
The Older of the Day fur redwing% the ad-
oourned debate on the Address of the Presbytery
f Langholni, in the county of Dumfries, inserted
'in the Lando* Gazette, having been read—
Sir JOHN NEWPORT moved a itoooltatitob of the
apiaion of the House, that the nab Address con-
Kined which salaamed to a breach of
'the privileges of that House, which being agreed
tai the Hon. llorouet moved the following Revo-
lution :
“ A. commodeatiois Meier tees *Seim*, Sudo is Ms
House, list the insertion of the aformemniesed Address is
the foodow Ginmite proceeded from an inadvertence to the
sepreheasisie eliminators which it cootained, this Howie
1110,1 not (eel Heel( engird upon to take soy farther meanies
aespecitee the esose."—Whiebt was also agreed to_
Mr. Hums wished to know whether :litre would
be any objection to give the same publicity to the
Resolutions of this House •as had been 'given to the
Adtlreas, by inierting them in the Gazette ?
The CotaxceLLok of the Exciitauss said it
was toot usual -to iniest the Resolutions of the
House iii the Gazelle.

commirrez OF SUPPLY.
The Doke of the Day was then...wad fo► the
Howse resolving itself into a Commit," of Supply.
WWI( OF lititLeND.
On the question being put that the Sat,:lteti do
knee the Chair,
Mr. Pascale Goiania. wished' to call the *this;
Lion of the House to a subject of the smog
im-
portance. Eft understood that the Bank of breland
had refined to receive &polit♦ of the current cots
of the realm. $ 11* this were so, it was a most extra-
ordinary case, and one into which an immediate is-
(wiry should be •made_ Ile should wish to hear
what the Right Hon. Gentleman. opposite false
Chancellor of the Excheciner); could eomassmicato
to the House on the subject.
The CHAPICaLLOIL of the Iltiepatomet pro
pssed himself quite unable to give the Howse any
accurate information on the subject..
Sir Jon* Nailfileit? felt the utmost surprise at
the statement of the Right Hon. Gentleman. Surely
Was part of the duty of that Right Hem Gentle-
man to attend to en affair of such importance. He
deparecateein the strongest terms that confusion of
the civil-sad financial affairs that prevails in Ire•
hinds k was the bounden duty ofthat Gentleman
to attend' to the financial state of Ireland se well as,
England, for the Lord Lieutenant and Secretary
of Stated Ireland had nothing to do with those
affair.. It was solely the ditty of the Right Hon.
-Gentleman over the way ; he was Chancellor of the
Exchequer for Ireland as well as England.
The CHANISELLoa of the EXCEltisUallt observed,
that it really formed no part of his duty to invest'.
pte the private affairs of the Bank of Ireland.
Sir H. PAILKELh. wished to state, that when he
was last in Ireland he did learn that the Bank of
Ireland gave considerable opposition to the import-
ers of sovereigns, from which circumstance, as was
most natural to suppose, cousiderable inconvenience
a►ose. He was sure every Gentlemen that heard
him, omit feel that the Bank of Ireland does not
' stand in that point of view to justify these pro.
ceediogs. lie wished to make one observation on
whet had felless from the Right Gentleman
opposite,. namely,. that he had nothing to do with
the private affairs of the Bank, us if they were
really a private body. He could not suffer such
■ mistake to go uncorrected. It was quite altar
that the Bank of Prelagid was a national institution.
I.t was a regularly chartered body ; in foci,. it
formed a part of the State. They seemed to have
formed most erroneous notion* •bout their own af-
fairs ; they do not appear to have taken a proper•
view of the case. They erred. in not following the
advice of the Chief Secretary for Ireland. In coo.
sequence of which mistaken policy, at the period
when the Irish Banks failed, an event which
brought such distress on that unfortunate country,
the Beak of Ireland refused to make issuer to re-
lieve the distresses of the notion. He took this
opportimity of stating the opinion. that prevail*
generally in Dublin, respecting the conduct of the
Bank,. and it became the duty of the Minister to
institute an investigation, and ley the whole case
before the House. There was one point connected
with the subject which lie thought would be• most
beneficial, if adopted it was to remove the mono-
poly that at present exists—for if that were done, it
would hold out an inducement to commercial men
to come forward. and establish banks on an exten-
sive scale, that would be the utmost possible od.
wastage to the country.
Mr. IRVINE stated, that lie had taken considerable
pains to ascertain the fact, ■rid as far as lie could,
learn, it was true ;' but lie was really at a loss to con.
ceive hew it could at all be incompatible with the in-
terest el the Batik to issue their paper. He had heard
vrith.great surprise that the Batik had discounte-
nanced theimportation of gold. He believed that
the Bank of Ireland contained directors of the
very first respectability, Nod. iu compl * gof
their conduct he would not be meant in the slight-
est degree as tetlectio&ou their character. Perhaps
the Right Hon. Gentleman would allow him to
a•k what amount of Exchequer hills had been
booed? The lion.. Member alluded to the Bill
passed fo► relieving the kids. Books, and said, that
in winsequeuce of some mistnamigeinent in the
drawsug of that Bill, the greatest inconveniences
had arisen. The persons appointed as Commis•
sienna under that Act felt themselves so restruineol,
that great as were the betielits that might be dew
rived from it, they felt then►selves almost prevented
from being able to emend them. It was a subject
that deserved the meet serious attention from the
liens,, for it coilll44lllvcr have beat. tbe spirit of
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