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444 widdhliba registry was to oe keptby the Clergymen
of Stand. The present Bill, went to enact, that
"Ohould kept by the Ministers of the different
-Jcageespliene to isilldt the party belonged. He did not consider
thileilla.ell im=ant, beams he isocsidered a registry of mar-
klifff 1M ti! he Mill benefit or adrantage-of the parties
b 4111= for 1111 a IMMO in any way associated with religion, but
*LAlice devises& and advantage of the whole community,
eapeelally fee abeam who might be eonoected with the
penis. He conehlered it' therefore as a civil and not a reli.
gloss regnietino, and therefore thought that the proposal for
en alteeirtin in thisismet might be advantageously omitted.
4 was, bower_
~er , that the Clergymen of tbe. Lamb-
halted Cherehasepd mutat, against keeping the registry for ,
ft ...,..tbe
test
to benefit of their ordrearice. But
H I
le
.44 .6 . the Bill hadeberutic reaLoabjaccoectiornell. aline,
,spot *at kpopped anything more than was neceasary
wee die =se ofiZaintgoire4efatioe alaysnumo7otgts claanst,oyf risienra
they won fitted to enter into and enjoy the rights
Re knew there were those who were saws
• .
en matters, and who sought to settle it as thy 414
way ddag doe, with nefbeonoe only to their own timpani ad-
-map_ vend at-their oinw.'-iin to this Bill he did wt fits
'A Me •- ' ' ' who sought to obtain the beadier
occasion the most importance( Ye
or d'acountenanced by thooselso
. under well circumstances every
persons, to whatever religion they
ray more fitting to the dignity at
character of Christian men, than
wherever they existal, If it
• Stare—if it were consistent
~ community, to give relief to so
and to eocahrsge all to take the
On th...- grounds he would mom the
-hoped that any alterations
would be made la the Com-.

et d
lila

...a to
who

iDURY said 6 hit it his duty to
Bill mow befo:e their Lordships.
`• sane as that brought into the
&wing tte last sesviun of
. ftboArchbishap of Center-
auhrtribe. Bo was so not only
die{ to the Unitarian Dissenters,
• Kite relief to the _ministers of
is. is matters of faith would
mks of the Unitarians were,
Won:tier, and were therefor.
be was anxious to remove from
"this Bill the necessity for that
place under the !listing laws,.
principle of this Bill he fully
the greatest satislanioo •ute toe its se-
to himsel: the right of discussing
the Bill were permitted to, go

;LL9 rose :o oppose the second
Ins own strong feelings, and in
r Lordships were discussing, he
their Lordships briefly, but he
refused his assent to the second
dons and the machinery of the
pa with op observatiors, for his
, and he could not sec how the
He could not see on what va-
enabled to state that the marriage
lurch was repugnant to his feelings;
'scribe? He was merely called to
7 Merely as one of the parties who
ground in this respect fur his re-
st the Unitarias made a decides-
:, of the Father, Son, and Holy
,ate to their Lordships, that those
itarians themselves. and were to be
tier. The minister at their Yap-
tame of the name of the Father,
name of the Holy Ghost." No-
that the Unitarians had no right
Ives ,sere in the habit of using.
lurch, also gave his benediction
and Holy Ghost ;" but that
better, certainly could not make.
, or rather an unwilling hearer.
sight have considerable weight,
-England were guilty of a pre-
doing the marriage of an Unita- '
case, .r should, as much as any of their
abhorrence and detestation. But be
1 for such a charge. When the Uni-
e married, he knew that the minister
and the minister was as per-
, about to marry held doctrines
. Where then could be the de-
prevarication amidst i Prevarication
when a pence used weeds which
4 'tun mese by the pelage whO
es one thing and mewing ao-
- perfectly understood one another;
-eived. He would repel with a
• had been brought against the
There was no equivoeitioe,
the Act to which allusion had
sth of, and he believed in the
I sincere in their belief. It
there were any force used on
(ben he would agree that the Bill
ought to be obeyed rather than
-• the case. He was not called
t of the Church of England ;
obliged to hear thesis. If the
little of the spirit of Chris- I
servants of the Established.
England would be wanting in Its
opportunity of declaring " the truth
._, of spreading those vital truths which
and the essence of Christianity. How else
convince the unbeliever of hi‘ errors, if it alien-
_ its first duty, and came under the denunciation, "forasmuch
as ye denied before men, I will deny you before my Father which is
in Heaven?" Marriage was not only a civil but a religious insti-
tution. The State had considered it wise end proper to add civil
enactments to the religious ordinances. The church was the Esta-
blished Church of the Realm, and Av./id not think it was called
u.pon to give up the right of solemnitation of marriage, a right
siliich it bad retained fora lee g series of years, unless upon good
apd valid grounds. lithe Hoeft were to peas this Bill, it would lie
celled upon on every principle that was honourable and just to grant
the same privilege to every sect of Dissenters, no matter what
/plight be their name or what might be tbeirdoetrines. The Arians
diight also say they differed in opinion from thechurch as it respected
the sou and the sooship, and they might justly and rattly claim a
similar privilege to that of the Unitarian. The Presbyterian also
might use a similar argument, and claim the same advantage. If
their Lordships granted it to the esitarians, they must in justice
extend it equally to every other sect, no matter how erroneous and
absurd their doctrines might be. He should he sorry to say any
thing that was harsh or or that might appear illiberal; Um bat mast
that she Unitarians r.gbt to be looked mow us a
' bear -it the belief
Christ--
that

-r Dissent*.
was 'forted the
fa of Chtistiooity. Ike eoold !doily conceive the proptioty
the justice of refusing this privily, to dim will agreed in all
t.oarwantat principles of the Ltsbissited Church, hut who N.'
Iron it mums minor matters, such u the liCcace, or the boo'

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or the ring;_ of denying to biro this exemption, as our fathers bad
heretofore done, and leaving it to time to reconcile him to those
minor forma But to the obstinate rejecter of it, doctrines, and of
the dorrints of Christianity. while he felt the deepest pity for his.
errors, and offered up the most animus prayers for his del i verance.he
reit assured that that delivrrance could not be effected by compelling
him to submit to a service which he abhorred, and by exasperathl
him to a kern and better resentment ; for in :hese dive men did oot
believe that prejudices could be overcome by forcing the conecienee,
Under these views of the measure before the House, be would gin •
his cordial support to the second rending of the Bill ; and if it
were perrni•ted to go before a Committee, he would propose some
alteration its its subordinate details.
The LORD CHANCELLOR said he. could not with pen_
piety give Ilia consent to the second rending of the Brand it be..
came hie duty to state to the Noble lintels upon whalikmande he ,
refused it. In the first place, he should be extremely aid to hear
soy Noble Lord say whet he meant in this pro Act by ter
l
NMI " Unitarian," because if he meant by Luitarian a
wild dented the divinity of the Saviour, he would ask their=
`Alp if It would not be first necessary to enact that it was lawful
so fork? He would refer their Lordshipa to the Bth end eth of Wil-
liam II I.,which thus enact," 'Whereas certain perpoas have published
ated.promulgated certain blasphemous and impious opinions, cog-
ently 'to the doctrines and the principles of the Established
Church of this realm, and tending to destroy the religion of Als
Mighty God, by supporting detestable tribes. be it declared and
enacted, that any person Lund guilty, either by spewing .er
writing. of denying any one of the Holy Trinity, oneb ponds I
shall, for a Seat offence, be deemed incapable of having and ens
}dying any oilier. place, or empleynsent whatsoever ; and that
anr person art ainricted bselpg atry melee, place, or employmen,
such otbee, place, or onploytnent, shall be declared void ; and that
any such person being found guile/ a second time of each
oK•nce, shall become incapable re, being he guardian so
any child. and shall not be eapable of receiving any Oft
legacy, or aee whatsoever, civil or. occlesintie.4. When
It woo peepond to repeal that Act he was sure that then was
no ana who did not wish it. The Act of Toleration lgnl: to
that respect also been 'tented. The repeal he alluded nete-
mined persons from the penelties of the different Acts whiele
isted before the Act commonly called the Toleration Act was
pissed. As to having withheld anything, as had bon hinted he
had done on one °mimeo, he Naos* beg leave to contradict it alto.
gather, and indeed slush a circumstance would deserve the greatest
censure. He pealed, nmembered that when this question was
diseased lest year it was distinctly uoderstoed that the Bill was
not to repeal the common law. It was another question wheaten
that law should remain es it then eiood. Tbe question new was,
ithwas not the laws It was the law, and it was Bret necenely•
yepeel it before they pared anther. If they really meant td tepgl
the common law let them doh, but let tbem not pass one In
teeth of another now is operation. He would banter a
that the common law was repealed, as would worse Nagai
the nature of the measure now under discussion. It need
tend to pat them on the same footing with the Jews and Quakers.
He would, with regard to the latter, observe, that he wished
the doubts which existed on the subject of their marriages were
removed. To- return to the Unitarians. they not only denied the
doctrine of Trinity, bet they had not one sentiment in common
with themselves. Besides, if these prisYsgla yes granted to she
Unitarians, how could they deny them annlin nee did in song
degree prefers similar pi-lodides of -Chtietianif
He was grieved tome the laxity of the Church)
cane of their most vital doctrines. This he feared was wining a
degree of mischief which would lead to considerable dienneign.
(Hear.) The first thing that he considered as nonsmeppres a
correct definition of what the Unitarians were, and vela Vete the
doctrines they professed ; but he called upon them not *pan this
Act. which would oblige the Judges in the Court of Kings Boni
to deny a doctrine which they would thus have sanctioned. Leer
them take care that the Church of England was not given u
persona who asserted that its doctrines were as impious sod pis
pbetnous as the Act of King William had declared their own to alt.
It *as upon these grounds that he should oppose the passing dr
this Bill.
The Earl of LIVERPOOL rose and appeared to labour under
a great degree of bodily weakness and languor. He said he was
sorry to express a difference of opinion from his Learned and Noble
Friend on the Woolsack. He was not, as they might judge from
his voice, in a fit condition to trouble them lbng, and indeed he
should not have risen at all, but that, entertaining a strong
opinion on the present question, he thought he should not be doing
his duty if he did rot endeavour to state the grounds of tint
opinion. His Noble and Learned Friend had rested his argument, '
if he had rightly understood him, upon the present state of the I
common law. And it was this that made an objection again.
granting these privileges to the Unitarians, whilst at the same
time the Statute laws against them had been repealed. BO
Iris Learned and Noble ?Send had himself furnished ctrl
answer to that part of his argument. He admitted in a elekl
gree. by comparing the Unitarians to the Quakers, who drift
brawl their marriago% according to their own roes, which
dersinod to be valid, although theirs was only on a general
standing. Could •••• man assert that there was any thing% the
doctrine of which no -
'segue

the marriage
be if r
broad

must .. A prin.
ciples that he should voielbr the plaid; rthe.flid. if e woad,
now look to the expediency of the ineantre. The strongest aript.
ment on the score of exiency wast'hoW could they grant this to
the Unitarians only antlxiot to other Dissenters ? This argument
was cavil y answered, namely, on the score of Its utter impeacucabi'.
My. It had, they might an remember, been once attempted. and
when the fill was proposed to be read a second time, he voted for
but expzeurly suited that he thought he should be obliged to op.
pose it in the Committee, which be found was the ease, end the
proposed measure was lost. There wait, moreover, a vast difference
between this sect and others. He would .with pleasure, as he had
before stated; apply the same principle to other Dissenters, if suffi-
cient numbers of them existed. The Jew, the Quaker, and the
Unitarian could not be married with our church ceremonies, or if
they could, it win not without conducting themselves in such a
manner as no throw a sin on the setvices and offices of out church.
Was nor the protest, which he d.-red to say none of them had heard,
but which they sometimes saw in the public paper, made at the altar,
the most dieguating ant' rreosive that could be imagined to the mi.
nivten of the Established Church. He perfectly agreed that the
Church bad a right to compel its own members to be married ac-
cording to its own rites ; but that Church which did not consider
itself infallible abould not be jealous where both parties were Dia.
,Aenters, if they should wish to be Married in their own forms. In
no view, therefoye, could he see any objection to the passing of this
- opfninn, r existing grievances,
believed doctrines
Ildr professors were
were entitled to at-
very few ob.
at evening give
thought that the
dif-
Established Church
'mental and vital
.1 of the vast
ten-
doctrines of the
-ttliought that
• Maid not
without win-
usayekinee. U they
'er be relieved.

. to &tense
_At not have ad.
Welled tne de-
: had umbels:God
that Noble Lord
incerity by those
which no man
nine Articles.
the Right
I hist :.he

understood .him It
t thought of the pre-
o the present appli-
Coristlans.
s satisfat‘tion of
to read ex-
, so. (Cees
, periodical
Quarterly
Frematiters,
iclioed to doubt
,blicatlon was
extract he
Ceremony,
.d disgrucNt it
light Rey. 'Pre.
~ urging the Uni.
This passage he
ety recent
to defer
as it had
a period.
tits dectritie

the maniage
He 'himself
It a defection
submitted to
disbelieved•'

lied objections the mamage '
ceremony of the Church of England. ThisVll would relieve the
letter, and be thought the, were entitled to relief. But this mea-
sure ovoid not only relieve Unitarians bat silo the Church Etta.
blialmilat itself; for few things, he knew* by experience, could be

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spore painful than to be required to administer ordinances to per
who not only 'coded and derided at therm but tomlly disbe-
lieved them. He should therefore willingly place the linitasi ins
on the same footing with the Quakers before the mossiog of the
Marriage Act, ghich compulsory regulation he would Like that
opportunity to state -as the Ohurch had nothing to do with
it. It was not their desire to impose their doctrines on those
who'rejeeted thorn ; but be thought that the present Bill was not
sufficiently calculatedto provltle against clandestine marriages which
the peculiar moron:flattop of the Quaker'a Society did. This way
one of his objections fo the present measure, but he still thought
that means might be deviled to relieve those comempleted in the
Bill. It was to the present form ofthe Bill that be objected; in short
to the whole-machinery of the Bill, and as drat could not be reme-
died in the Committee, he shOuid therefore voieagaumst it. By this
Rill the Unitarian would heeouneiisik were a kind of Episcopalian
Dissenter. and indeed it was Rrinci ypn the ground of the hardship
iiii the Bill imposed upon tle
_clergy that he objected ro it.
in him opinion, a Case of great hardship fur a Bishop to be
.;equirt'd to license a Meeting House, built for the express purpose '1
of propagating doctriDel inimical to what he held moat sacred. 1
But indeed he objected to nearly the whole of the provisions of the
Bill regarding the Clergy. He world not go into a detail of particular
i
, objections, but one very mpatient point with him was the vagueness
of expression in the p We of the Bill. There the Unitarians were
termed " Peet/atm commonly called Unitarians." Now
many he thought who' were in a kind of doubtful state, would not
mind taking adventage.of_thisßill as it at present stood. though they
would hesitate to sign a declaration of distrelief in the Trinity. lie
therefore thought that one provision of such a Bill ought to prevent,
such imposition), by requiring ;very one desirous of being married
under this Bill to sign a decldestion of hie disbelief in the Trinity.
The Bill as it at preemie wood wnuld provide a mode of marriage
for many whose relief was ewer intended. Another defect of the'
Bill. which. he had before alluded to, wee. that it did not provide
effectually against clandestine marriages... Besides, he put it to their
j,ocirdships what a minister must feel when receiving a certificate
from two persona whose bailie he bed published, saying that they
wished to enter into the State of matrimony, that they denied the
holiness of the ceremony, and disbelieved that doctrine which
he thought so essential to t; istiatilty. These :tad similar pro-
visions rn the Bill luutlehips 04 the clergy. and if
;
they were re,ntoilvA L. ahead be among the foremost to re-
blt:lg
lease the Uni • " their diffieultieral Hs had already
stated that Unitarians difeled that th:re was anything sacred in
the marriage ceremony. and considered it merely as a civil eon-
tract. He now held in his hood a protest, signed by two
persona named Pea/on and Thomsen, in which they declared mar-
' triage to be Merely a civil contract. They disclaimed the !WM-
ferer cie of the Church in this most important point, and contended that
it ought to have no Concern with it whatever, and they ought to be
married like the Quakers, but under the cognizance of the State,
through the medium &ifs civil functionaries. The difficulty was
to provide for the relief of. the Unitarians and the Church, Red
'at the same time guard against clandestine marriages. It was
Upon these consideratienstuathe should be obliged to oppose the
Bill in its present intim. ..
Lord REDESDA LE made $ fel observqtions against the Bill,
which were inaudible below the bin
Lord CALI'IIOIIPE-4.A very. good distinction, he thought,
had been drawn between the Unitarians and other Dissenters. No
argument could be drawn from what had been said respecting the
relief that must be grunted to one it' to all ; for what would be a
relief to the Unitarians. who denied the Trinity, would not be a
relief to others sho did nor. Hs, for his pan, should rote for the
Bill.
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The Marquis of LANSDOWN begged, in answer to what had
fallen from a Right Rev. Bishop, about the Unitarians noteonsi-
Oerine marriage sacred, tastily, he did not deny that some enter-
tained the opinion of Its being merely a civil contract; but he was
justified in saying that the greater number did regard it as a sacred
ceremony. Another circumstance he mu.t mention, and that was
that the Unitarians were tutaliy unconnected with the Freethinkers
that had been alluded to. With regard to putting them on the
tame footing with Jews and Quakers, he thought the Right Re-
verend Bishop could never intend that they should never be able to
convey real property, which wet the case with them.
The Bishop of CHESTER said he did not mean to say that the
Unitarians, as a body, denied there was any thing sacred in the
the marriage ceremony, but merely that there was a sect who did,
and who would come under this Bill.
The House then divided, when there appeared--
Against the second reading of the Hill 31, Pros-4'13
For the second reading 32, Proxies 12 -
Majority against the Bill ' .
It was consequently lost,
The County Courts' Bill was postponed till Thursday next, after
which the House adjourned at Bight &Clock.
HOUSE OF COMMONS, FRIDAY, JUNK 3.
WESTERN SHIP CANAL.
Sir T. LETfIBRIDGE brought up the Report of the Western
Ship CasalCompany's Bill, when
Lewd FOLKSTONE rose that on referring to the
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that before any petition
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Noble Lord had referred, and they appeared to be in eccordanct
with the view which his Lordship had taken of them. He further
°burred, that until the Hoene were in possession of the Report,
they could come to no sorted judgment' on the question then
liminght before them. The Committee must in the regular course'
hats reported, that the Standing Orders of the House had bee.
egmpillsii with, for to ascertain whether they had been or netts
ggetetalta matters necessarily referred to their consideration..
thmoillem mere the case, it must have happened that after
lin 4( had been discovered to which the Noble Lord
aipeelai He concluded by repeating that the House could do
neshing,entil it waa poseesaed of the Report.
After a few further observations from Lord Foucyroirs and
ghee Sex/gist
Mr. A. BARING hoped that the undertaking would suffer no
!prejudice from what had fallen from tire Noble Lord. He had
trknown a private Committee less open to those who had
igv7:cted to attend to the evidence and the arguments ; nor did
he ever know a Committee more constantly attended by those wile,
pee their votes.
Afr. BROGDEN thought that on public grounds it was a ray
good measure, antlstatedsuch as his opinion to one of his fricndb.
He was in consequence asked to join to the subscription, but he
thought proper to decline; at the same time, having no objection
to attend the Committee, he was frequently present. Ills name,
however, was put down without his desiring it.—without his con-
sent—in opposition to his distinct refusal; and accordingly be
found it necessary to write to the Solicitor of the Company for the'
purpose of correcting that misrepresentation. He wished to state se
his opinion, that all those errors might have originated witholl
fraudulent intention. In the Committee there certainly apposed
nothing of that nature.
Sir T. LETHBRIDGE felt that the opposition ought to bees
been made at a different stage of the proceedings. Although dm
Standing Orden of the /loose required that names should be ass
iloson, and money subscribed to a terrain amount, yet they did not
require that individuals who put dewi their naives should be ro..
bibited from afterwards changing their minds and taking
names away. He trusted that when die Noble Lord
coosidered the subject, he would not press his upposidas as
bringingkp of the Repave
Sir J. YORKE *43 clearly of 'aphis% ghat Wit dully
Out a small SUM had been subscribed, the Compatly should ritt be
allowed to proceed .with digging up the country, and destroying
propertyood, unless : thvy had real funds far producing a substantial
public g.
Alr. 'DICKENSON protested against any Company's living al.
lowed to uudenake the work of 1,400,000 L weh only 3t/0,001.1:. in.
*dr possession. fait any thing might be Clone if a Company
were allowe I so to proceed.
%Sir THOMAS ACLAND denied that there was any fraud
is.* list at deposited at the Bill Office. The deposits on the'!
1,01001. had been all regularly paid. The list that :mid bias
,erased to was for quite • different purpose front what was seep.
polled: For his ..part he was quite at a loss to conceive what
ausge could have bailer derived to the parties had they been guilty
of the deceit of which the Noble Lord accused them. Hie thought
further, that that Noble Lord should have stated before the Coe►
mutter his Intention of br.ogtng the subject before the IfoUst.
Lord FOLKS/41SE again rose, and inquired if the. House
thought that it was necessary for every Member who had a motion
to bring forward shottld feel himself under the necessity of submit-
ting thernoti,:n to' thOse whom he conjectured would be opposed to
it, and lay t before them for their anticipation of the several Argo-
;bents which he might deem it expedient to use.
Mr. W. W ILL JAMS wondered how there could be a difference
of opraios nos such a subject. The docomeut lodged at the Bill
Office rl`Jld not be considered a list at all. It wus not such as the.
Standing Orders Of the House required. If it were to go forth to
one Browb public that the House of Commons had sanctioned such
a Hill, she connivent' would hare been moat ruinous. They held.
in their decision the wealth of thousands; every petty little shop-.
keeper on the tine through which the canal was to ton would boi
induced to vest his money in the speculation, on the faith of a saesw;
Lion by the House of. Commons.
. • The SPEAKER. wished the Holse to be aware of what (headrest
did really require. He then read the Order, to show that those whit
subecnhel must re..lly pay the whole sum. Such as thought thee
they would be only.bouod to pay the sum they had subscribed for
It the rate per cont. specified, would find themselves much "Mei
'teen—would Shd themselves liable to the full cent. per cent.
After some flintier conversation, the Report was btought opi
gad mod.
!HOORN'S D I VOR
The Corwmittee.en Moore's Divorce Bill was posspossed to Mons
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HANTS AND BERKS CANAL.
On the question for extending the time for a further considera-
tion of the Report on the Hants and Berke Canal to Monday the
13th instant,
Ale. F. PALMER rose to say that on the line of the proposed
Canal the proprietors of 2,845 feet were neuter, those of 2.247
were assent:ng, and those of 59.393 dissentients. He had their
signatures to prove this. In addition he would say that he entirely
despaired of getting the Bill forward during the present Session.
After a few weeds from Mr. EITCOURT' Mr. C. Downas, Mr.
AIRRERLY, Mr. Jowas, dir. Onanow,Mr. BRIGHT. and Mr.
T. WILSON. the time was extended to the day abovementioned.
ST. BOTOLPH'S PARISH (TITHES.)
The nil for giving compensation to the Rector of SL Botolph's,
pis read a third time and paned.
EDINBURGH WATER-WORKS.
• 'Mr. HOME DRU3I3IOND moved the further consideration
Odle Report of the Edinburgh Water Works Bill.
Mr. J. P. GRANT moved that it be read that day six months.
•'Sin J. YORKE opposed the measure; when the period arrived
, die** increase of population should render the establishment of
a Company necessary, he would support a proposition to that
not till then.
Mr. SYKES wished to uphold competition, but in the present
instance he thought competition could produce no good end, but,
on the contrary, would raise the price of water in Edinburgh.
Sir G. WAR RENDER supported the Bill.
Mr. 11. DRUMMOND supported the Bill. Many petitions
had been presented in favour of the Bill, and only one against it,
and that emanated from the existing Joint-Stock Company, which
stood alone against and at variance with the public interest&
Mr. SYKES explained.
'Mr. CALCRAFT said, the inhabitants of London had encou-4
raged the establishment of two water companies, for the sake of
competition, and instead of competition they had created a'eon-
junction. He was satisfied the very same thing would occur if dig
Bill now before the House were permitted to pass, and that the
second Company would be no sooner constituted than it would
conleree with the one already established, and the consequence
would be an increase in the Finite at which water could be supplied.
After an observation from Lord litatitswe,, strangers were or-
dered to withdraw, and the House divided, when there appeared—
For the Amendment 54
Against it 49
Majority against the Bill . —.5
Which was consequently lost.
BRIGHTON IMPROVEMEkT BILL.
Mr. CURTEIS presented several petitions from the inhabitants
of Brighton aid its vicinity, against the Brighton Improvement
Bill, and one from Brighthampstead, in favour of the Bill.—Lald
en the table.
31r. CURTEIS moved the Order of the Day for the further
consideration of the Brighton Improvement Bill, for the purpose of
postponing it till Monda_y next.

monday
A.RIGNA IRON AND COAT, COMPANY.
Mr. P. MOORE moved time third reading of the Arigtta Iron
ar.d Coal Mine Company Bill. .
It was read a third time and passed.
CALEDONIAN CANAL.
Lord BINNING brought up the 22d Report of the Commis-
sioners on the Caledonian Canal. Ordered to be printed.
LUNATIC 'ASYLUMS.
Lord BINNING moved that an bumble Address be presented
to his Majesty, praying that he would be graciously pleased to
direct Returns to be laid before the House of the number of
licensed and unlicensed Lunatic Asyluras in Grog Bsitain, and the
number of patients confined therein, distinguishing the males and
females, froln the year 1815 to 1824.—Ordered.

SALMON FISHERIES.
Mr. KENNEDY brought up the Report of the Committee on
the Salmon FiaberieL—Onlered to be printed.

BARLEY DISTILLERS.
Sir J. WROTTESLEY presented a petition from the distillers
of Wolverhempton, against permitting theeectifyingnf rum. The
Hon. Baronet stated that the petition was signed by 91 individuals
of great respectability.
After a few words from Mr. BERNAL and Mr. CUREZIII, the
petition was ordered to be pruned.
COMBINATION LAWS.
Mr. HU3IE presented petitions against the re-enactment of the'
Combination Laws, from the Wootstaplers of London ; from the
Tin-plate. workers of the same place ; and from the Operative Cot-
ton-spinners of Glasgow. The Honourable Member took that op.
portnnity of stating, that there existed no intention on the part of
the Committee to recommend the re-enactment of the old Combi-
nation Lows. (Hear, hear.) The Intention at present was, to re-
_
• model the provisions of last year, so as to give them the effect ori-
ginally intended.
Mr. HUSKISSON corroborated the statement of the Honour.
able Member. In movingfor the appointment of the Committee,
he (Mr. Huskisson) stated most unequivocally his opinion that the
old Combination Laws ought not to be re-enacted, and that the
object merely was to give complete effect to the Resolutions of last
year--(hear, hear)--and he then repeated, that the only result to
be expected from the labours of the Committee was. that they
should devise some means for attaining that most desirable object.
Wear, hear.)
te be.
PriaLONDON COLLEGE.
Mr. BROUGHAM said, he rose to give notice, that on Monday
next'. he would move the Order of the Day for thesecond reading of
the London College Bill, teat it might beshen discharged. He did
so on the ground that it properly came in the nature of a private
local Act, and not a public one. As a private Ac', then, it was
meet to introduce it, and With that view he would present, on
Monday next, the necessary petition for leave to bring it in. He
wrs must anxious then to state the nature and objects of the in-
tended institution, as nothing could be more gross than the misre-
presentations which had gone abroad respecting it. No exclusive
privileges were asked ; the Bill would merely go to incorporate cer.
min persons in the usual wayeto empower them to sue and be sued;
they would be a Joint-Stock Company so far, to have the shares
transferable; and certainly they were not to come within the provi-
sions of the (eh George 1. chap. 18, which his Hon. and Learned
Friend was then about repealing.. ( A laugh.) The Bill enables]
the Company to purchase land ; it gave no power to the partners
to avoid personal liability, nor to any particular individual to with.
draw himself -from such responsibility--failing the funds of the
Company. (Hear, hear.) With respect to the Institution, he
wished it to be particularly understood that-there existed no (limn-
don to apply to Parliament for permission to found fellowships;
indeed none of these privileges or powers, at present exclusively
ettloyld by the two Universities, -would in any wise be de-
, mantled. (Hear, hear, hear.) • The object was simply this—
, that whereas there were then In the Cite of London and its vi-
cinity many respectable persons, who had no means of getting
education for their children at either of the Universities, where it
could without doubt be so well got ; and whereat they were likewise
prevented from sending their children, by the great distance, not
wishing to have them so far removed oat of their sight. Then
there was a still further objection—namely, the great expense. If
he said that 2001. a-year we the lowest expense at which a gentle-
man's son could be educated at Oxford ar Cambridge, he thought
he would be stating a low average—indeed, too low, (Hear, hear,
from several Members), which expensiveness he was sorry to find
accompanied with all the collateral evils of idleness, extrevaganee,
and dissipation, and which were moat- unquestionably increasing;
daily, not decreasing. He spoke not oa his own mere authority
be was borne out in his assertion by the highest officers in beth
Universities, by persons holding the highest official situation.
When he said that the experses were increasing to a great degree,
be tholight it but justice to add that it was the only thing which
continued to be injurious to the boys; in other respects great pains
were taken to reeve them, and indeed improvements to a great ex-
tent had talon place in the coarse of studies at Oxford and Cant.
bridge. At Oxford more attention was paid to classical acquire-
ments ; and at Cambridge, where the classics only used to be cul-
tivated, a greater degree of attention was devoted to the severer
sciences; indeed, at both a more scientific course of studies was
established, from the progress of knowledge throughout the cone,
try. (Hear, hear.) The object of the-new College Was to bring
home to the means and wishes of numerous persons the power al
giving to their children a necessary educrion. When he stated the.
number of individuals too distant and too poor to send their sone to
a Universitet even were theelheiphile mute cot:satyr to their feel.
he ceffid apprehene to epposieen to The anneal
at sem hteg.aeleige was to be teseguintas a-year ; there
were to be annually three courses of lectures--fur each mine three
guineas were to be charged, which,. with a guinea entrance, would
make up the ten; this expense,. of coarse, was exclusive of the
charges made elsewhere for clothe and maintenance. Such was
the principle and ground of theelnatitution • the intention was to
instruct the pupils in the %ciente a, letters, Ind arts, and the best ,
Professors 'would be selected for she purpose. To avoid the possi-
bility of their having sinecure situations, they were teeny' as
houses at the College; they ware not to take boarders,andii weal**
even intended that they should have private scholars; their rake
lies ;would be small iodeed. something in the nature of a retain
, fee; they wereeo receive from the College not more than from ow
to 1001. a-year; for further .emeluments they must depend on
the number of pupils who snail attend their lectures. This was to
be the rule, except in some particular cases—such as with regard
to the Professor of Oriental languages. -There was one other
ground for eatablishiek the new College, which was to provide a
good medical sehooL (Hear hear.) These was no such thing at
Oxford or Cambridge, and it could only be where large hospital
were. London, after all, was the place where a medical school
should be formed ; Liverpool might be a fit pleat, .from the met
number of its inhabitants--so might Sheffield ; it was certale,
however, that there was only one natural place for a iv ediele
school. Is was intended to have the new College situate about half
an bear's walk from some large hospital, so that the pupih might
enjny tbe 'advantage of excreter whilst they were attending tisk
studies. The piesent was the time, he thought, peculiarly apple.,
priate for establishing the new College, when such great extrusion I
were everywhere being made to provide schools for the poor; in.
deed scarcely a day passed on which he haul not from 19 to 21
ennimunicatioes, from parts of the reentry in which Mechaitis'l
Institutinns were set OS foot...if not Mechanics' Instihetleat SRI
least Libraries, were established. and lectures given to the operative
classes. It was quite impossible, he conceived, that the bet*
classes in the metropolis could be satisfied to have their children'
more ignorant ehan the carpenters and labourers who worked ler
them. Lewes intended that the new College should be open to all
persons ; there sere to be no tees to exclude nay primal:a seer.
indeed there we, e to be no thesalogiatl lectures of any sort . • it Mg
admitted that the Clergy of the Estate/lag Church meld be bole
educated at Oxford and Cambridge, and the Dissenting Clergymi
their own respective seminaries. It was proposed to vest the se-
vernment ref the Offiltessin a Chancellor, Vice-Chancellor, eat
nileteen Professera e obeerrations be deemed it natality
.. s •

sasiag'and at•theit igmbeisitin to 111
. Itynn Ma
i& OM who nue
hi2sliF alaiomit
*it O. ko -
the& mug* iiiirt,;;::,
wibsit. 11l tuner
i
le non to*, char
leiway breast am temples .
' eleweistont wilt the safety of the
Otliegiltddse whole eastimuni
poodle imierounity, and to ens
ofthil IMO Institution. On these g
alOW•dotilling of the Bill, and he
hee,liZbidep
t be considered expedient 1
of CANTER BUR
.
g:I
thisi Bill
c44B'
was a the
Bill
as
ils
b 74 nowt Marquis opposite,
void is this principle be I
)IMpeepfed himself ready to cubit
lepeeses It Wes calculated to give relief
het because itWas also calculated to 0,
sly listabbehed Church. Thilferaien
be always entertained. The scruple
be fiend y . believed, entertained in 1101
entitled tograve consideration. But he
Illorilliblislyrd.Chorch by means of th
unhallowed oreivecatioe which took pi
s 1.111• !my kot eV the altar. To the p
sunailitid, and would with the groan
sold reading, reserving, however, to MI
the vatioue clauses aontained in it, if ti
through a Committee.
The Bishop of BATH and WELL
rending of the Bill. In justice to his
jitstfee to the important subject their 1..,
felt himself called upon to state to the
hoped clearly, the reeves why he mint
needing. With respect to the provisioc
Bill, he would triable their Lordships
objtcdon lay stalest the principle, el
prtramble of the Bill could be good. S - ands the Unitarian wee enabled
ebony of the Established Church we,
• Y 0 whet was he called to subscribe
a itecribe his name, and to what? Men
wai married. There was then no grout
pigeon But it was argued that th
nob thaw at the altar, " in the name o
Mom." It was unnecessary to state tc
"We words were used by the Unitarian[
fiennd in their printed form of prayer.
usni stid, " I baptise thee in the name
in tbet:ame of the Son, and in the nam
rlb then could be clearer than that
ject to the words they themselves
• * minister of the Established Churn
• the name of the Father, Son, ant
Werth', if it did not make a person bette
bleb worse, while he was a passive, or
It *as argued, and the argument migh
t thin the clergymen of the thatch of 1:I
varication when engaged in solemnisini
rise. If such were the case, he shone
Lordship, bold the act in abhorrence
thought there was no ground for such
tartan entered the church to be marriel
'entertained opinions contrary to his, a
Maly aware that the person he was at
that were in direct opposition to his. I
ceptlon ? In what did the prevaricati
appoind to lien simply me mean, when
be wished to benndimmed in a
Nord bint ; it was, in lion, eirjeel
er. But in this case the parties perk(
a neither was deceiving or deceives'
of indignation the charge that ho
ergy of the &Maid* -Church.
time wait no mental ' in th
been made. He the vet
assertion, that the U a were :
4ould be unfair to doubt it. If the
p conscience of the Unitarians, then I
ought to pass, for then " God ought
man," but he knew that such was cot t
upbh to abandon his doctrines for those
if he did not like them he was not of
were otherwise, there would be li
sty either in the service or the s
Church. But the Church of Engin
141ty if it did not take ever opportun
which is in Christ Jesus, of spread
Tote the foundation and the essence
could that church convince the unbcliev,
dotted its feet duty, and came under the

tsbee-rve, that the Unitarians' halms fgbt to be looked uppity.. 3 ;no view, therefoye, could he gee any objection to the pass
!veined sect. 'Their Lordships would bear in mind that the belief ' Bill, which would, in his (minim, remove glean existing e
ult the Unitarian sea merely a belief in the humanity of Chrie— it would relieve those who, in their conscience, believed
belief that was the Yew " axe to the root of the tree." that went which, however erroneous they might be, If their pinta
• . yto undermine the ptiogapito of the Christian religion. For sincerely attached to them, Men those professors were end
reasons—because be sew no just geounds for giving this pri. tenths. (Heat)
to the Unitarians--beeause the clergy of the Letablished • The Bishop of CHESTER *aid he should make vet
were guilty of 116 prevarication or equivocation--because be servations, And those only that the vote he should that en
I. Tad reason wisp die ttlitirch should relinquish an angler t might not be liable to misconstruction. He thought tha
..,_ use he thengbt oil kinds of Dissenters had an equal if l fereece of **flier. which existed between the F4tablishe
rt.' • - elainklithle the I; 011044-,and because be thought and the Unitarians, WAS at to and of the most fundament&
i " .• •., In as a favoured sect. For adder of their belief. There could be no.question of rh
' he of his May. he wou/d Elortence of thetr merles lethge thought that the doctri
et V
.s- .•, as iet too sow. of It be rad a acootad Tricky had no fain/Astir is the Scriptural, if theyithi
.. . • • . elm
Jews divine hneount-rcrenot usdr paid to it, and tare
..' • :t'^'. or LlVAegrritfraltgedielllfa answorr ktiL. woofloiroolotouv ° eicesalbaell Orolluellwak "it
• the opitark ' .by the • lit Rev.' o wit• bad Airbag the Trish?. din efeitilingftfetr tatentleneo
Glee
addressed their Isor:dripe. He would consider the subject he suell scruples, he sincerely thought they might to be
etoe heads; first, With respect to the erfobt of the Bill on the ludic On so impnititit al atiee of feith 'it would tee unjust
iiluals who were more in.:nedletely cooceined in it ; next, as to then of insiticerit, and hypoo*l. Indeed he should. re
its effect on the Church of Logland i and next, with regard to the veiled to it atoll. i,ul net flue Noble klatquit who opera
Dissenters generally. It was hardly necessary foe him to declare, bate thought fit to =at an unfair impuuttibn, as be had t,
ebet he was dreideoly hostile to the doctrines and the errors of the l'., on the Estagisied Clergy. He had underetond that N
Unitarians, whom, with all respect for their talents, their acquire. to say that the flnitstnine might he accuited of insinceritt
*Ws, and the sk,a,i virtues which he knew many of them who had no difficnles la ilrearing to certain things whit
possess in nit anitient degree, he considered as totally without could holiest'. Alluding, be understood, to the Thirty riot
that religion .Mini " coined) of (iod." The pervasions of &nip. ' The Blaquielef I,A risco Wtti begged to say that t
tore, however, to which they were obliged to have recoune, wgreno ' Reastend and Noble (~sed had titslly misapprehended
roof of their skill and judgment. To alter the text for any bail not -once mtani to make the leaSt Allusion.
it
thOr. witltont authority, or merely on the authority of a common. The Bishop of CHESTER said he had so understood
oe of 200 years ago, was surely not Worthy of mew distinguished wee only at a recent date that the Unttarien-' hid thought 4
for literary attainments, and.for power* Of mtnd. But a IOC! as lie sant matter. They had been goaded and lashelithto the ores
p' t their doctrines. still he would say, '• by their own master cation by certain perebna calling themselves Freethinking C
. . Mend or fall." He knew that it mug he gelling in the This fact he hapvl he shooed be able to prove to the soli:
to wound their feelings, and 'arouse their prejtoneee at a the House. lie knew not whether it was customary t,
0 which formed the moat Interesting and important poruon of • tracts from books, !hit if he was permitted he should do a
lat
their here, and in this principle he would vote fur the remord of , or " Read.") The paragraph be should read was from a
the oldigatiossi against which they raised their voice, and of which work, published by those Freethinkers, and called the "
tion so earnestly complained. With respect to the Lstabli,bed Reshoer." He pee them tberltlenf Freethinkers. or Ft
iireti oftthis realm, the Church to which he was so nearly spied, but as Tor being Christians, there might be some incline(
Iheeoesidered that ita intevste would be best advanced by deliver. their right IA the title, as the very first article in their pnblii
asigrit from tbe scandal which was brought upon it by those who directed spinet the public worship of the country. The
tropes' With little abort cat' contempt that which was the object ee its should read was from a very clever article on the Marriage e
• neohetion. To his view of the ease, that Church couldnot be better which made him the more regret that the author had di
stated than by the removal or at abuse which put, as it were, the with sume most illiberal abuse of the clergy. (The Right
.oefeseillato unhallowed hands. If the Bill passed the seeend read. late here read a long extract from the kbove work, urging
ijtionie alterations would neassarily be made in the Chmmitte:. nutria to make the present ao.slieation* This pi
I* 1141 was anxious that there should be a complete separation of quoted to show that . the present claims were of et
the Uplotrions and the Misobers of the Cht.reli of r,ngland, be. date, 'and that if it aheuld he deemed expedient
sure diem could never be any union between Musa who Accnted the question. no great grievance would be imposed,
free another,the one of idolatry, and the other of malerolentr. The been borne with so much illtietlCa for so long
Not Rev. Prelate who last addreatted the House, had stated, among He thought that sontelpersthis might not acknowledge lit
me.* objections to the Bill, hikottsction to it on the grounds that of the Trinity, who yet would have no objeetien to the
eive.t Lordships would be actually bound and compelled in justice ceremony as performed by the Ls•ablisned Church. H
to etant this ptivllege to every other class of Dissenters. This ob. knew several Unitarians, who. had they thought it a
t,dtebr, did not appear to have any fore*, for the distinction hetweeu from their prineiples, would not. he was sure, have submi
"t,t : Unitarians and all other Dissenters was obvious, and the more He elso thought that there might be 'some men who d
I...:•letay" that distinction was 'narked the better it would be fat the the Triat,y. and had objections on that'
account to the
. . __,. .-. . . . .. is - ~ ....-- a.. .......sss. renamed. of the Church of &whim& This UM would e

tieiodiol;vell7,elthough"auTtsveasonlyon i general under. Ship Canal Computes Bill, whist -r
--r- object mere
standing. Could eiriy. man assert that there was any thing in the Lord FOLKSTONE rose to observe, that on referring to the year—(hear
doctrine of the Unita:line, which no man could condemn as erro.. Standing Orders of the House, be perceived that before any petition be expecte
neous more thin be could, more at variance with Christianity than could be presented for the_ptupose of introducing a Private Bill, should devi
the Jews ? nebulae 6„ia t..,.... i„,&,, 'ebbs view to esuatiuttece Imes-Stock Company, it wee neramary (Hear„hear
pimMed brat Able " ..: lbattriti' shwa Try d'erififfee trbeinuarambenewsmeabi., third I
ants of those who 1111=71701741. eYfilred freely Irv.and OM sto any proceeding being taken, those.
among us, aria their right to matey in their Oro wanOM diss. liars should Waged In the Privite Bill Office. With regard to Mr. BR(
puled. He, for his part, lb d contend Fee. . pass privileges the cast of the Repot* then before the House, he had to state, that next he wok
fcr Mohoinetans, were they ciently ludeed them thisestiended expense if the undertaking would be 'nothing short the London
could be no mama whY me of 40 Irdeliblvelornerry in of 1.700,0001., anti whoa 41/1 expenses were taken into summit, so on the m
a
their own manner sboaW 11:111, icidsent a einiertod "mild probably asesur.t to 20/8,0001. The list lodged at the Bill local Act,.
of' the laws of the-county. ; ' Of theCharert of Offim, purported let be for 1,400,0004. than which nothing could meet to it
England wonoteven sr o Me ehepl phetesturyender beams iiipte from the fact. One Member of that House was set Monday n
34,4
al•ctrcumsuinces. wfren e precevedryied In I'l ante with all dein ?KW. shames, when in truth he had only taken 20 ; another wrs must al
' the Catholic forms, it was SO 'legit mar. fOr Sid, idle bad only taken the same number, another for 344 tended insti
tune in this country. it pas die um Irvidirridesbirmien eene. shams, who had likewise not exceeded2o. What then could such presentatim
tinges in Scotland. He thempere_ must ousteng that the doctriee a proceeding be designated, but a most fraudulent attempt to irn- privileges s
which hid been already laid down MIS parsed? Mercer, thit whore Prim upon the public? Ile would not give an opinion upon the tain person'
the marriage cm-vita:ly could not be performed by a prim, It would peeped merits of the undertaking, but he thought the attempt to they would
be lmtl if gone through by it civil person. That was good on the impose upon the public ought to be exposed, and the Standing transferable
broad principle laid down In the Bible, that every encWragetnent Orders of the House applicable to such cases strictly enforced. slona of ti
must be given to marriage Itself. It was ;moo these general prin. The SPEAKER then stated. the Standing Orders to which the Friend was
ciples that he should vote for the passing of the Bill. Re would Noble Lord had refined and they appeared to be in accordance the Compel