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LORD REGISTRAR or SCOTLAND.

Mr. KENNIDY *nitwit to put • que.ttutt to the
Noble Lord (Castlereagh), •a to the intention of
hi• ►l'lajtstc's Government with respect to the tdiee
of Lord Registrar of Scotland, which is uow
vacant.

Lord CASTLEIIIIIOII said, that Lambing hail as
yet been door respecting it ; but that it would not
be filled tip without such notice as would enable
the Honourable Member to found any parliamen•
tary mutton spun it which he might think proper.
Mr. WESTER* presented a Petition Irons the
Inhabitants of the pariah of West Ilam, embracing
several topics. The leading points of its prayer
were, the inaertion of the QUrell'i 11:191t in the
Liturgy ; inquiry into the distresses of the country,
and reform of Parliament. Whilafthe Declaration
purportiog to be a Loyal Address from the same
parish, was only signed by 150 persouri, this Pe-
tition was aigued by 1,720.
Mr. T. Wilson said, the cause of the apparent
ditpropornou of signatures between the Addicts sari
the Petiiion way, that the former was signed only
by inhabitant householders, while the latter was
signed by tier inhabitants generally.
A Member, whose name we could not learn, said
that the loyal Address was not signed by one ern
twenty of the inhabitaut householders of the parish ;
among thuse who had signed it were to be found
the parish schoolnisater. tile parish clerk, the sexton,
and even the grave-digger.
1 he Petition was read and ordered to be printed.
EXTENTS IN AID.
Mr. W. Satire toured that there be laid before
the House au account ul all Extents in Aid issued
from the office of the Iteineinbraneer of the Court
of Exchequer in the year 1820 ; with copies of the
affidavits upon which they were granted.
The Ciamacitii.hort of the ExcuEouxa opposed
the motion, regular notice not having been given of
the intention to make it.
Mr. W. Seems said, he had not given notice.
because having made the same motion three soccer.
sire years withoat any objection having been wade
to it, lie hod thought it would tit acceded to as a
maies of course, arid that therefore HO notice
would be thought necessary. fle, however, would
me give :suttee, that on Friday next lie should
move for the production of the papers lie had already
mentioned ; and also for the production of a consi-
derable number of papers relative to the manner iu
which the Slate Trade was now carried ou by seve-
ral nations of Europe,
WEIGHTS AND MEASURES.
Mr. Montt SWIM esid, lie had also a motion
to make, of which, after what had been said re-
specting the want of notice from the Honourable
Member who had just sat down, he might perhaps
be required to give notice. The subject of his
motion was the reduction of the Weights and Mee-
sures in the several counties of the kingdom to oar
common standard. The Honourable Member was
proceeding to state, that a Royal Commission had
helm weepiest for dims years i• ioqiiirisvg into the
subject, sad had, he believed, made more than
one report; when he was inteirapted by cries of
•' Order, order !—Chair, chair !"
The britairas then said, that, at the desire of
Abe House, be meat call upon the Honourable
• Member to state whether it was his intention to
conclude with a motion, or whether be was only
about to ask a question ?
Mr. H. Swings, we believe. said he wished to
know what had been done by the Commissioners.
Sir Gamma CLERIC said, the Commission had
pot as yet brought its labours to a close; but in
a few weeks their result would be in a condition
11, be brought before Parlioment.
BOROUGH OP GRAMPOUND.
Lord Joe* Russell moved for heir. to bring
in Bill to deprive the Electors of the Borough of
Grampound of the privilege of returning two Mem-
bers to represent them in that House, and to ru-
mble the Borough of Leeds to exercise the same in
, lieu of them.

Afters few words from Mr. D. GILBERT, lane
was given.
PROVISION FOR THE QUEEN-MESSAGE FROM
HER MAJESTY.

Lord CAITLERIAGH moved the Order of the
Day fur the House resolving itself into • Commit-
tee of the whole House for taking into conaiders-
lion so much of the King's Speech as related to
her Majesty the Queen.
The Order of the Day having been read--
M►. BROUGUAII rose and said, he had the ha
nour of being commanded to lay before the Home
a Message from the Queen, which he would aow
read. It was in substance as follows

The Quetta having been informed that the Moose of
Commas Lad appointed this day for the reasideutioe of
so nisch of the ring's Speech to both House* of Parliameat
u related to the making of a provision for 'UK lkiessei
it ineumheet at her to state that else felt duly sinuihk of
the condesceasioa of his Majesty in reconismeedieg her to
the cassideratioa of Parliament. She was aware that the
income feireserly voted to her bad teased, and that it irrArk
ihrrefelle he the wisdom of Parliament to decide mem the
nature of the provision to be made fur her 411se *Vt rhos
tion in which she was placed ; but hoed what rho 1"4
lately heard she was apprehensive that sub nie.e
would be simareonspanied with the full eaijii
of those privileges which former Queens Coesorr of is.,
kingdom had emjoyed. And although so far from beteg
inclieed to &nasty thing which might tend to proton the
simpieensat differences which at present existed, that she
felt most dais sin common with the whole country. fee
their speedy and Goal termiaation, and was elusion, cal.
tiously Nabstain from any observation cskaloed to sure
rise to us new discussiuu; yet her Majesty f.lt Wool in
daty to herself to deehre, that she still persevered is het
reeolotim oL doelioing to accede to any airengesnest sank
bee same remained excluded from the Liturgy..—(Loud and
repeatod trios .f" Haar, Ante, hear ."')
The gownson was then proposed that the Sifeaker
do leave the Chair, when
Mr. WESTIN* rose and raid, that teen if the
Message from the Queen, which had been just no*
read, hod not been went down, still hr should bust
felt it lir ditty to oppose the going into a Coolant.
tee for the purpose of granting any supply. Altd

this he should do, in the first places because he, for
one, would never consent, to the grant of a single
guinea in the way of supply of auy kind, unless it
were preceded by a full inquiry into the dietreues of
the country, lido the depression of agriculture, the
decay of trade, and the general distress of the peo-
ple. He called upon the House to soy whether
they would not itirtitute that inquiry for the pur-
pose of ascertaining what means might be adopted
toe relieving the distresses of the cottony, and of
rffectiug every possible reduction in the public es-
penditure. He would not advance one step
towards any grant of the public money uutil some
measure of that sort were adopted.—(Hear. hear.)
i—He entreated the attention of the House to
the situation in which they were placed. Minis.
tees had intimated their intentiou of proposing
II sum of money as a grant to the Queen ; the
Noble Lord opposite gave them notice during the
debate of a former evening of his intention to make
• motion to that effect, and in the course of the
Name speech wherein be gays that notice, he declar-
ed his conviction, be positively affirmed, that bee
Majesty was guilty of adultery ! He expressly
raid, that though she had been technically acquit-
ted, yet the was virtwolly eonsicted—that she was
convicted by the verdict of 123 Peers ; and not by '
them only, but by many others. who, though they
had opposed due Bill, had yet expressed their •
opinion that she was guilty. Now what, fie
would ask, was to be thought of this conduct of the
Noble Lard, who declined the Queen to Ise guilty
of ;trickery, and yet proposed to that House to make
a provision for bee ? Why. after having abaudoned
the proceedings—after having withdrawn the Bill
of Indictment, was it to be tolerated that the
Queen of England should be denounced as guilty
by those who had given op the prosecution?—
/Hear, hear.)—What could the House think of
such couduct? If the Noble Lord were to be
allowed to say in that House that the Queen was
guilty of adultery, was it not giving sanction to
libel? Was it not a libel ? If spoken or published
out of that House would it not be a libel ?—(Hear.)
Why this was more scandalous than the Bill of
Pains and Penalties.—(Hear, hear, hear.)—
What was the object of the Bill of Pains and Pe-
nalties ? Not to deprive her Majesty of her in-
come of 35,0001. • year, but to stigmatise her
character, to degrade her from her dignities. to
lower her ist her rim* sod station.—(Hear, hear.)—
They adopted that measure for the purpose, it fa&
ed, and yet they penirtied and treated her as if it
had been tarried. He was not willing to vote for
the grant of any supply, unless some explanation
should be come to on this subject. He could
never consent that the House should concur with
the Noble Lord in his expression of her guilt, and
at she some moment vote her a grant of the public
money ; lie was therefore determined to give Isis
most decided opposition to the motion.

Lord CAIITLIILIAGH said, if he understood rightly
the preliminary sbservstious of the Hon. Measles*
belled said be should object to the vete of say ellits
ply moil se inquiry were made into the distrait,
of theimentry. Now the present motion did Mt
eseehsposy qeesition of supple in the ordinary sense
of tint Well. The opposition of-the Hon. Member
was intim extroordivary. He did not object on the
Kemal soy particular grievance, as applied to the
particular object of the motion; bat he put it on
the petrel ground of the distresses of the coon.
tryazl it lieertfore appeared, tint until the agri-
en sled miosoierciel distresses of the country
were inquired into, and that question dispeetid,of
to the satisfaction of the Honourable Member
for Eases, he was determined to oppose the
great.—(Near, Ater, hear, and perreauring.) —He
should now proceed to offer some obseriations ew
the Message from the Queen, in which she statea
her determination to abstain front receiving any
grant or supply until her name were restored to the
Liturgy. To this he could only my, that her Milo
jesty would have the opportunity of exercising her.
discretion, as to whether she will receive it or outs
slier the House shall have disposed of this question.
(Hear, hear, hear.)—His Majesty's Government
was not io the smallest degree disposed to visit the
unfortunate and illustrious object of this tivition
wish soy harsh or despotic measure. —( I.enghter,
old cries of Hear, hear, hear.)—From the
Message which had this evening been reed, and
other similar communicatious which she had before
mode, through her Counsel, to the First Lord of
the Treasury. it would appear that her Majesty hid
been very ill-advised on this point.—(Heer, hear.)
—Any grant or supply voted by that House was
necessarily wade to the Crown, and her Majesty
stook jberefote continue to receive the income
allow% to her from the Crown, in the satne
manner as any other subject. But from the
forms of espreirsion which the Qom's' had accus-
tomed herself to adopt in her Messages, and in the
answers to several Addresses, wherein she was to he
found speaking of her subjects, and of her rights as
Queen of these realms. it would seem as if the
Queen were desirous of erecting herself into a great
end:poperfal portion of the State.—(Loud cries of
" Hear, hoer P•—" Order, order !"1
Amidst which Mr. Hums and Mr. n't•ritattem.
rose to speak to order, but the former giving way,—.
Mr. Wrrentextt proceeded to speak to the
Point of order, hut commenced with some albs-
sinos to his speech on a former evening. whets
Lan.

`tiateal errs* sot only bete bat elswbatie..-fLood
cries ?Order.)
';11.1
The &osier., again
Lord CASTLaRIAGH flattered himself that if
"'mimes permitted his to proceed, they would
Gad he was not oat of order. With respect
to the gentleman under the gallery (Mr. Hume)
he did wet think that if he (Lord Castlereagh) hyd
stated any thing inaccurate about her 111sjeaties,
writings, that it became a subject of order hi
that Learned Candlemas to catch at. He (Lord
Castlereagh) did not travel about the country with
the literary productions of her Majesty, as that
Hon. Member had done—/Hear, hear, hearj--
nor did he feel all that tender interest about her
Majesty which that Honourable Member felt—
( Hear, hear, front the Opposition Benehesl—
an interest so strong that it really savoured of that
Hon. Member's having seen these productions
before they appeared in print. But he had been
told that he could produce no instance of what he
stated. The Noble Lnrd then read an extract
from her Majesty's answer to the Address from
Dover, and also to the Address from Canterbury,
stating that she should be always most happy to
promote the happiness of her subjects.—(Hear,
hear.)—But he clearly sew that the way which site
wisheitto promote the happiness of her subjects
was Ity.obverting the Constitution.:-So far for
the point of order. He was quite sure the
House would never tolerate any individual, no
metier how high the personage, to dictate to
the House the conditions on which they would
regulate their proceedings. They were not now in
negociatioo with her Majesty. They had a Mes-
sage from the King directing a provision to be
made ; it was their duty to take that Menage into
consideration, and it would afterwards be for the
Crown to sanction that proviaioa, end then would
be the time for her Majesty either to reject or re-
ceive it. When lint she opened this communica.
tiou about money, she said she would receive no-
thing but by a grant of Parliament. Now she will
not receive the grant of Parliament utile*, her
name is restored to the Liturgy. May she not
toamorrow tell us that she will not receive any
money until she is received ipso the Royal Palaces.
In fact it is hard to foresee what the determination
of her Majesty can be. unless to disturb the Iran. '
quillity of this country, and to bring the Throne
and the Constitution of this country to her feet.
but he (Lord Castlereagh). always consulted the
and happiness of the subjects, not of the
even, n, but of George the Fourth. and as long as
be had any influence, he *odd never submit.
Had the Honourable M for &sex let the
House go into a Commit end of talking of
the distresses of the country. the persecutions
of her Majesty, he (Lord Cast r )would not have
introduced e single ear:wean A the guilt of the
Queen. He should have t it unmanly to
inflict a sling on her, merely* the assumption of
her guilt ; but ea they could .90t.ktemit to issak on
the question of her goal) ninidoociace. was he
therefore to sit down wink/ 86415 e oppeesseve tweets
of Gentlemen on the opposi side ? 'was he to sit
tamely by and hear his Maj Ministers reviled.
and keep his lips sealed, amt r not one word ig
vindication of their conclatetio.(l4autsheers filial
the Ministerial ikaeltes.)..4o* had always stated
that the proceedings itypsisse the Queen. in-
stead of being an act of oppression. was one
of the most painful duties wadi they could
perform. which they were imperatively called on to
' . front the urgeaey ash, case ; and was he
mai to r the prerogative of the Crowitemmulted,
without coming forward to defend it ? Nothing ever
was more obvious then that gentlemen who cried
out for justice to the Queen. were merely con-
tending foe power. and were only agitating the
oessatry, and increasing the disorder and confusion
id which they complained—
;Yr. Tlsattitir begged to call the Noble Lord to
...der. He appealed to the House. whether int.
pediag to Gentlemen on his side a desire of plow
• es the sole cause of their epPe.irieur were parlia-
mentary language.—(Hear, hear.)
The SPeAttea was decidedly of opinion that it
was not. Ile only waiaed for the Noble Lord to
conchs& his sentence to remind him, and he was
quite sure it was only necessary to mention it to
have it corrected.
Lord CASTLIALIGH resumed. lie assured the
Howse, he had no hostile motive in any thing he
said. But he would never withhold any argument
that could fairly be iutroduced into discussion—
he never would suffer the people to be misled as
long as he hail influence over them. He never had
it in contemplation, in coming to regulate the sum
her Majesty should receive. to soy one word about
her guilt or innocence. 'l'hie question rested on
other grounds, and he apprehended thaC the Par-
liament was not lobe disturbed in its course. The
Queen would have Nu ample opportunity to decline
the grant if sloe thought proper, after it had been
made; but it was their duty to comply with that
part of the King's Speech which referred to this soh.
ject. He thought the course which the flbuse had to
pursue clear end obvious, but he did protest
against this fresh attempt to disturb the peace of
the country.—( Hear, hear.)—Whew the grant of
Parliament was made, then was the hate for her
blajesty to reject it, not now.
Me. TIERNBY never .felt more desirous of ad-
dressing the House than on that occasioua lie had

• .
wholly incompatible with 1i existence in power,
that bevelsg foiled is his anemias. lie could see
longer retain once. The Noble hail Meted.
that he would not make tot n ttttt ode attack on her
Majesty. lie (Mr. Trertme) could not tell whet
mood the Noble Lord might bar to tonight, tau;
es far as he could hear—(he son not able from teatime
positing to remain the whole Oust.) —.but UN ler es ha.
could beer, he never recollected in the whole count
of his life a more entnenly attack nn soy defame•
less female, thee the latter pert of the Noble Ltird'e speech.
The Noble Lord bad complained severely of the Q•seres%
Message. attributlog to her a disposition to create disturb.
awe. Of the propriety or impropriety of that Message, he
should 'sly say, that bad he bean in the sitisatieu of her
Majesty, he should hove precisely throe the sanie.7(aisers.)
—What did she do ? She takes Ore first opportunity of in-
forming the House that she ouderstood they were takiug bee
affairs into missideentiee, sad magoanimously told them,
" I owe it to myself to say, that I menet take your easel,
after what his ameerred.'"—(Cksert)—" Rut," ems the Noble
Lord, "I do sot mean to take any fresh proceedings." Nos
eerie's'', not; aid why does he sot! Mumse he dare aol.
But he does the Veflf text tkiag to that, he rakes up all the
odious peereediaga M the Reese of Lords, for the perms*
'of ekeitleg ea unfavourable opinion against the Queen.
He (Mr. Tierney) could wet be charged by the Noble Lord
with a dispooilloe be create diets/knee, either is or oat of
1 doors. He had bees atteelted by some of his own friends
for net coming feremed, ad had incurred their displeasure
Sr hairier been iso 'extremely ,temperate as le Meer the
applause of Mat Noble Loral,* Ms modevillow. But he
bed beard, with the moot perfect fierier, the doctrine that
had bee* laid down within the last week. It was a doctrine
completely abatement to all the ideas which as • Lawyer as
a Gentleman, no as Etiglishnian, he had ever entertained.
He could never have 'opposed that the discomfiture of a
sinking Adinielstratims eaglet ever lave conjured op
a doorise so revolting to 'very feeling_ of justice.—
(Lewd alma.)— dlr. TierpeY Men proceeded to read
some extracts from the Jeannie o' the Horse of Lords,
sober ho was called to order. Well then, he supposed he
might be allowed to say that be beard the Queen had bees
comicial of adultery by • majority of the Home of Peres
—.Met he boldly dolled. He was moot to admit
that 113 Peers did vote for the second reeding of the Mk
bet sever did peas n aroma guilt. He would ask the Noble
Lord what was the necessity of stages through which a Bill
most pass if men were Not allowed to change their mistily:
lu the House ofCemesous bow frequently did Members vote
Air theiaesood rending of • Bill, in the hope that something
would be done its the Committee to induce them to vote for
the third creditor; bet, not Sealing that the case, they have
declined voting fur the third reading ? Bet here, in this most
extraordinary and auseesalosie ease of the Queen' they were
told, that the second reading of a Bill of Patin and Peualties
mounted to a verdict of" guilty upon my honour." [(that
were to be the caw, the most degraded wretch that lives under
tie 'metatarsi of Turkey enjoys as much liberty as we Jo;
mad this was the moral comical** of the proseeutors them-
selves, the very Mieisters whose political existence depend.
ed on ealeniniatieg their Qisees.—(Lord ekeere.)—Hate we
had an reprove lenity of estimating one of the blessings of our
Coestitelion—the Trial by Jury—which requires
that the Jury should be unaidesous, and imposes weeny.
So that it could be said to a man. " True, the Jury
have acquitted yen; bet five albs Jurors bed a moral coo.
Action on their minds that you committed murder."—
He would push this era no further, it must ippeil evident
to any man that ever *posed a book, or ever reflected.on the
Constitution of Esgland. that if such *retries were tolerat.
ed, there meld be so security for my usual in the armory.
Bel the Noble Leedom's* to think, that became he has sot
in eselempletioe soy fresh proceedings spinet the
there, that tharefere her Majesty has nothing to com-
plain of. Bet he (Mr. Timmy) seemed, that the whole
tester of that Noble Lord's coedoet Was calculated to
cast • stigma on Me Quoins Re might be permitted
to advert M. se obaemstree Mel fell from the Noble Lord
. _ _

orposkle, asepoolleg eitestherAhtbie lese‘la -..115e phew,
who shoodiitet if Ibe BIN IN mot pees that noose, the
Qoeess was entitled loan her hoovers, digoities and privileges.
How iaceasisteat was the treatesewl bee Majesty received
with that promise! " But," says the Noble Lord, " we
give her 60,0001. • year, and what a curious fellow you an ho
complaia." This might do very well, coming from as isdiel.
deal who eared metbing about squandering the public merary;
but be hoped he did ant ant imaconstitettatally, although
perhaps esplemantly to the Noble Lord, when be stated
that he, as ose of the guardioas of the public purse, could
not coolest le groat away the public mosey until seqesiet-
ed with the warthieese of the object. le his judgment the
Clews stood is the most creel sitesties ie which any
bums. beteg could staid. She had gone through the
whole of trial, if se it might be called. Against Bills
of Paine and Penalties there were so many objection.,
that he should not mentions say one of them. He
ended that there was any verdict until. the Bill bad oh.
taloa& the R.yal Assess. And why, he should be glad
to loom, did the Bill uol pass ? Ost of respect, we •wre
told, to the (renege Of the country. Awl would soy man
say that what Ministers are now dolor( was respectful or
coorenial 11 the wishes of the people? Time Peers Of Bat-
hed had sbewa more respell to the opinions of the people
thee their owo represeetarWs. The Noble Lord bad
spokeo.of protests. And what are these protests? A ma-
jority was bed fee the third reading, cestaierett his Ma-
, jetty's Miaistere sad the Lord Chaseelloe. A canoea sir.
cemstathe occurred on that occasion, which he setter fe-
rreted to see or hear. At one o'clock several voices were
raised ceademaieg the Quer., tad extolling in the highest
wooer the proceelfhigs against her. In se hour after, a
speech or • few short sentences iodated these Noble Lords
to give it up, sad he gave the highest credit to these
Noble Lords who preserved their cossiateney by 'ignite,
those protest,. The real cause why that Bill did smut pass
is, that the Noble Lord felt a conviction on his mind that
if it came dew. to the Howe of COllllllOll9, the moment
it was isurodoped it would dte es sosatersideeth.—(ffeer )
The Noble Lard slated that he threw out no aspereious on
her Majesty; bet he thought that time circemstaaer of rein..
leg to restore her same to the Liturgy was who( the foulest
aspersioima that could be cast upon her. Time Noble lard
wishes to be tranquil. He (Mr. Tierisey) had no doubt be
did ; he sae were that imuslausg would give hiss greater plea-
sere this tranquillity, and pernsirsioe to come down quietly to
that Haase, sod vote away the public mosey without say dia-
s/Woes. int he would ask !howl/enamel' opposite to him,
NI heilheir °Oahe, the coarse which the Noble Lord was nuty
fereetiett wee that which was beet calculated to sesuege the
:fethlie naiad? And lithe House of Commons were tranquil,
roeld that, did they think. allay the delusion (as the Nubh
Levi expresses is) ender which the people labour? If he
etteeid form to his mind any mode by which an individual,
'set tie to eaderatine the public tranquillity, could best
'Abet hie pamper, it certaiidy was that course which Minis.

he wads. if satiated. tootle* Were eel unCele, they would
oat do their deity so the ecoatry.—(Lsied eheerleg.).-14W
begged .. `he Noble limed to recollect the muds dm its
, which the conntry amod. The people of this eouatry *ere
far differeet mow Arose what they had formes!), beets. Let •
the Bottle Lord remember der fermium that remold itself
to 11w cyra,pf this ea lighleued people. The simple question
"Shall or shall sot as acquitted Queen have the balsa:
0 that acquittal ?"4-(Lorg ass. cowtlesedeAwrra)—Ow the
sight whoa the qlsestiou was previously discussed, the goes.
flee of adjoersoneet was poi at ormolu stork lit the soutiiing,
mod isattirally carried.. There were assay could wet vole for'
negative of it; some probably thought it memo to Coo.
miry a omen on Ministers. Man could ant vote for it
because they einslil oat meet their former friends at their
clubs eas4 saforth. flat aim dove, in their opinion, it is
trrevocabie. The dignity of Albumen would be lost if the
Quern were restored, bet do what they will, her mime will
he restored to the I.oergy, and if he walked oat of that
House with only tea Members oil his side, end all she others
opposed spitest hint, siti II would he feel convinced that it must
be date; for the people had takes mocha dram hold ea the goes-
time, they eatertaissuelb as utter contempt sad dmestatios for
the persecutorssf the Queen' that they will never "ellipsis\ it.
It should be the wish of s good sod a wise Adatinicratioo
to allay and sot to irritate the feeling of dieconteat that is
abroad, end seeing the the Qom is sequin. d, they should
anew allow her the fell gad min* Unseat of that acquittal.
(Load and motioned them ) .
Mr. BRAOGE BdTlitlalp was or opinion that the
Right lion. Gentleman did not take en *CCP.*
rata view of site reel state of tie case. If ho Ina takes
into hM actitieration that the Queen had tees without it
provision, then be would undoubtedly have understood
whet wee meant
lay the " present eircutnstaeces.” The
Hoe. Goatlenme then entered into • detail as the urge.
went. adduced by Mr. Turley. Wish respect to the dif-
freest sieges through which a Bill penes, be thought that
whets a man votes for the second reading of a Bill, unless
it undergoes material alterations in the Committee, or on-
less he changes his naiad, be is bound to vole fee he third
reeding ; bat with respect to the Bill of Pairs and Prost-
ties in soother House, he was of opiaion that the second
reeding of it aMileil an indelible stigma on her Majesty.
The people of Beeson-I did, in feet, form their judgment uei
what passed is she House of Lords. If the Bill had been
thrown out on the first reading, that, in his view of the
question, would sot make soy differeece. If, Indeed, they
were willtheklieg a right from her Majesty by way of pinkish.
west Ise something mot peeved, it world be quite a
digress consideration. The Rigid Hoemumble Gesit'e-
moo hail said formerly that the omission of her Majesty's
IMMO fres the Liturgy, wet ao stigma, but that it undoebt-
eilliwonM hove been so if the Doke of York's same had
bees isseialsd sad her Majesty's omitted. He had sever
uoderelood that it was proposed to make a motion hiw the
restoration of her Majesty's Dame, mut the only conceiv-
able motive fur the Noble Lord's motion oa a former eight,
was political etpedieecy.
Lord FOLKIITOPIK rose and expressed his in-
tention of supporting the motion of the Hon.
Member for Essex. He had from the Arse contmencesneet
of these proceedisge sever ceased to deplore them; from
the first he thought he. most mischievous, and every
step which had piste been taken couhrward him in that
view. Geier niklirther than the Noble Lord (A. Hamilton)
au • former sight had gone, be would ask with him, was
the minimisation of these discossioes so evil t He would
pot speak of the intemperate and eery Aselings displayed
Ms sight, bet he would ask, if such was the state of et-
Memel of the Noble Lord at the fourth night of the Session
(he who usually could so well control his feelings in debate),
what would be the state of reeling at a later period ef the
Session after a mainmast.e of angry discussions ! What
mid be said of she decorum of • Mistletoe of the Crown
coning doer to that House, and prefacing • Isobel* Mr a pro-
vision by sarcasms oe her Majesty, sod scream( her of
little short of high Irmo. ?—(flear, kesr.)—The Hots.
Orsileraaa who spoke last talked of admitting to the
Mown as a some of favour • lost so favour woo asked,
. eta •ressimed es than sale of the . Hosea. bat

what was beroasitti bet llooly's makes"' Mattes; but meal
UK were a f it might he groollod, not to her Majesty,
but to the people; add whim they sew the number of Peti-
tions on their table. is whit* those wishes were clPrevled by
the people, at • time too when they were about So wring
60,0001. a year more from their almost empty pockets, be
lid Heat it was • f that weight have been greeted to
their Mires. The Noble Lord bad talked of the eutatitutimal
errors into which her Majesty had fallen, and dime observe-
times came from a Misteter who had istroduced a sill of
Palos sad Peulties, and when that wee Mopped, was still
nawilliag ha toiseede her Majesty those rights which belong-
ed to her. Ole what did the Noble Lord poised his moral
eonvietim of which he had spokes ? He did, is fact, ground
it gum the votes alike 123 Preys who had vied for the am
mad reading of tbe Bill of Pities sail Panda's. Supposing
that 113 Pours had so voteiL that was little more Boma third
of the Hoisome Lords, and the Bill or which they had voted
stated .iataiMpilealable other tinges beelike adulterous in-
MN:ousel there was the taking Bergenii iota her Majesty's
greeter, sad procuring hint homilies and several other thioga
of the like asters : is all there were eight Meerut grounds
laid for the Act. The proportion who voted few the Bill
were as four to thee*. Now it the 'Hegelian had hewn
seem in eumber, sad if the questioe had bees put on
any one of them, or au all of them separately, there
alight have bees • ntejortly of six to one ageism it.
Se much for the argument which had bees so mesh
, drawn from the votes of the oilier • House..—
the Bitl actually passed, and muse down to that House,
her Majesty would have had the bawl( of soother tribunal,
sad might have procured other winker'', sod been able
there to have placed her Jammu' la a fairer light. Bat
the Noble Lord so soastrived it that ale admits." es-
soiled so the Questa from the defeat of bee eameies.—
If the Misisters thought the Queen was morally con-
victed, why did they not take a terhuieal coavietioo
Wellsittlheyhave rose irisie
lad had both, the NobleLoeird
r.orys
he
asainsy, dilYeriag only in quantum from that which
.be new lamest to recommeed. What then did the Noble
Lord our propose doing It was to place her Majesty is the
siteatiou as if she had bees found guilty. Nu palace
-=for her; eo prayers said for her; but simply a
"sly iu the qusietunt of provision. He thought
illibotlemoutrable that the yak of the 193 Peers was mie
s Isis of guilty. &Odes it whoa he • complete overthrew
of the principles of British lorisprudeace, if, libels say
tram is the ludietaseat, frees say stupidity of the proseen-
tor, had operated an acquittal, if it were aot a libel to
say that such a person was morally onevietell. The Noble
Lord might see a techoieet necessity to come to that limes
for the primitive far the Quire, bet she 'twist ample settle-
ment of the Civil List (which from the distressed Male of the
earstry,l sad depreciation of prima, was made still more
ample) might have furnished it without coining to the
Lord '

It lie gin as *Maim (Ade} he thought 4.0041 rot he Kitten
with propeiety tarot by those who had herst the evidence.
anal whit* he thought a ememetest tedious% yet the p P.
awroptioss ertainty woe, 'that east tribunal loot judged
fairly sod properly.—(efoirr, hoer, fross Lord reelferesokl
Rot wither could he Meer that litkOtt- P a.year •at offered
her Majesty if she vonshl retreat from the r, n0...t obis 4,
She had since tried, sod which hid she thee areepro,
she world ham oldster' suit merited the rrati•o le 4 f
all disposairmate preen.% and in his rpiuion, as far si
regarded public estimation, she wouhl hare gained ea
much bottom as she lied reaped from the cowed.—
(floori Hear)—lf at the conclusion of the trial her Majesty
had Men given up the point, he thought it would have beets
wise and roper, and would have displayed a patriots^
spirit if theft she had coareded the point in drool.,
and eves if to-night it had been g into up, be should
have thought it wise and prudent. He for tope must
soy, that although he you'd not presume to censure, yet
he mast deplore she course whirls had been taken. He
thought it *mold be unwise 'or the Floor to alter its c-unis
on account of the Message which they had received. I I
pomace. of what he emerved to he his duty to his roux -
tie he had thought it right to pursue that enures stitch
aff:sded the greatest chance of calming the titillation .if the
country, and he should therefore vote for going into the
Committee.
Mr. BaQUGHIM said, that the subject had been
so fully discussed, that he should have beets tetilititc
to have leA it to the decision of the House, trot it not term
for sea or two obserstioos which had WI. n from his Ili n.
Friend. la justice to her Majesty be felt it neersary to
' day a the word., as there rimed • rooms judgment to
(It'ot in more parts of she Home duos he could have ima
gined. le justice to she Queers, therefore, he would pat
It to the ceadour of his Hoa. Friend Is say. whether or
so lie bed dealt with common justice by the Quer' ? The
sum of hid Hon. Friend's laritiou (for of arguartot he hal
given then, none) was, that it wee to be presumed egaisot
the Queen that she was never right; and au it was. Whether
her Majesty was under the charges, or at she cod of her
trial, whets the peterethogs eminent her w.eo totally •bsu -
dosed, an event. assounced better than by a iltournd
speeches from • First Lord of the Treasury, amounted by
the thing itself, opookiog with a loud mice, which resouroted
through the country. and acing to every moo who
had a heart is his bosom, that the prowl did not exist-
eigi.the Queen um guildeess.—( Hear, ltesr.)—He though►
Clime, resounded as the Court ors—(Hear)—such a hslf
proceeding was sot tech good evidence limited her Majesty
as the confessioa of her prosecutors that they could n 4.6
woke good their charge, was evidence to bee favour. Ills
Hon. Friend agreed with hist in she eyesore protionard VII
the lint institution of the proceedings ogaiiest her Majesty;
those proceedings terminated in erns' out virtual scritt-
lal, and filereAre she was after that acquittal to tow for-
ward and treat herself as guilty. His How. Friend agreed
with her Majesty and the cosiony, that there was netlike
sense nor justice is nut restoring her same to the Lino gy,
and thevefere she was mow to do what he (Mr. Brougher's,
In his conatirme believed would be any. fatal to the public
peace, to abestriou her claims. Roane of his Honourable
Friend's (truism were derived from the Noble Lord op.-
posits If ever be (Mr. Breerhant) had undervalued the
version of the Liturgy, the Noble lAstil had relieved
him from it by the importance which he always attached to
it, and me the Homorable Member for Wandter's motion.
be treated the omissioa as a stigma. The Noble Lord now
took up a differeaes rowel in shot House, odious its deer:,
and hideous to every may who valued character; he hod
taken up •distinenos of teehisieal acquittal. What should be
mid in that House new ? Were they sot told, at the time she
promodiar wrests's. to commence, that seppordor the Bill
did pass the Lord*, so damage would bedew, so bias would
be gives, but they would restive it purely and strictly imin-
Ronmed by all that had been done in the other House is the
lest stages of the proceeding ? Oily lel Mandl pass, and it
weed/ emir down to seprejoiliced Mods, with not a feeling
Intellad Mat Jodie* could atedcwia; bat sow that the Bill
bed diet rowed, sad because it bad sot passed, they were
,Milqi, epee by the Nate Lead, mei the call had been
answered by his Flosoorablo Finns!, to peened as if all
bad hem peeved is the Upper House, God that it were
to lend their judgeseets and emsociencee its that House.
Biessibtog had bons mid a• to the Massage, sad he was
astonished at the drugs mad. naiad her Majesty as if she
had preituderely steered with their dirmationa, and
hews eowerthing of diciatios ; but if ever document was
rased is eonciliatety, my, in submissive Imogene, it was
that paper which he hod had the Ismour to present to she
House. /Ur Majesty says, that haring learned from
your votes that you were about to re into the csosideratioa
of a provisiou fur ber-solse says, " Before you go fiottor E
tweet istform you that is 'the shordioa in which 1 am
placed, I mood birder away my honour for gamey, for if
I do, there is as end of safety." The Noble Lord says she
Amid have waited till the mosey had been voted; but,
had she so done, it would have bets then•complaineil of as
coming too late. Her Majesty bad done what eery loth -
widest is low or high statists had aright to do, she loud said.
o You have voted ibis provisiose for me; hut allow me re-
aprelfully to declare that I most decline it." If the Queee's
honour were to be the sport of nino', out of doors, sad
that calumny re echoed in that Hour, embodied IN acts of
the State, and croissants of that Huss', either by past
omissions, or by refraiaieg from Mains her jounce ; if seeh
were to he the case, it might be Mu the Home would have
no reliance we hisjodynaret, but he would lay his hand ow
hie breast and declare, be could see so prospect of mufti-
meting these differeoceso-there was no way but doing her
Majesty tight, as deameded by those priaciplea of justice
which were universal and retold.
Mr. BRIORe considered it a paramount duly to
ecisist.ler the quirt of the country. He enure' red it
was the duty of the Howse insmedimely to take into coo.
sideration the King's recommendatios as to her Majesty's
peevish's, proceed with the grant, sod pay tie money she
the Exchequer foe her Majesty's me.
Mr. R. MAR FIN opposed the lowliest for adjournment,
and wished the House to go idle the Committee.
Mr. WESTERN intimated his Memnon of sot pressing
Isle motio• to a divining.
The Teesdale being thou put fur the Speaker leaving the
Chair, it was carried.
The Speaker tenths Chair, sad the Home resolved itself
lido a OiliGaikes.
Lord CASTLSRIteGit said, he apprehended the
only question for the Committee to decide Iris,.
the proper sum to he allowed to her Majesty. le coosiderinc
that movies, and looking at the situation of her Msjcsty
as Qoars Comort serrated from her heshood—a asperi-
ties, reworded by Farlianseut, and recognised My hie Isle Ma-
jesty, be mosidere she provides reed oat a. that wire%
a QatorsComort might require who was living wish I er hrs.
hoed Sod haldiug a Cwt. Tokio( foe a geode the
dower to which her Majesty was entitled by her marriage-
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Lord CASTLZILEAGII rose and NMI, the Flout. called the Noble Lord opposite to order for stating ten were perseiog. The Noble Lord vainly ignite.. that Mare of commons. The Nimble Lord cooclesekel with 8 ' 111 'be ewe" ur h" m'eel""E W. NV live he
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Member was certainly not now in order. that Gentlemen on his side of the /louse were paying her Majesty 50,000/. a year will satisfy hermind. He moving, that the Mille! As New adi9Nrie, draught that naturally would form • groused for their iud...
Mr. BROVIN II Could tlyttt Coto rig Ve
.what a)! the Noble
os mess. After aurae fu"iker olesereratiwia, his urchins lb. u
bonoered her Majesty for she Message she bail sent that
jest, he ein.l4d to grout, out of Ite Coomehdated FogiJ,
IA loud cry of " Onter, order." from the Opp. ectualesl in their conduct by a desire of place,
~Tent isa She opinion el this Commitiee his 'lin- ~ • ...,4, .
tuoleashi ; it clearly
.rihewed shat she preferred her character Lewd opposite meant b talkies of I ' •i c
sitiou side rendered any Nether eltpression el his and au the Noble Lord had particularly referred to
"imasd:Me:e:r.:Sts.helli:Azilitilcieu‘a%:::R.....:LHE:y..:th.A.laditr....iit right
b;teg= to Mint
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y other coomieraism. Hoe he doubled whether, from a h„.,. majesty. newer wbow, a Bill a Pains and peaahies
Ily, duriug her Majesty's hfe."
Lordship's inaudible, acd he sat down.] him (.11r. Tierney) he thought it right to do so. 111, Speech, they were called upon to grant any siowey. He hug been ialeistavest and read . ha
The &segue was sure the Hon. Member must He would not stoop to the meanness of stating, wisheds Me Noble Lord would
~ lay his Gager on that part of
qtreessibilefaend7i7a6ttihitaHts7 se PseefrsaL:diii:celt4l7le4filwalsjedas,whedivriseteliriu; very
he aware that any ob lion made on a previous that he wits not desirous of power ; lie the
aildressesPreclithellaParealliameled oatP°:n. Ithr futrlowdoing";ortidsis;-111:jleteelYs followed as • matter of course. Yet this was the Q•ee• and he more particularly censored some parse of Hee letter
were called upon to Wooer with ibe paw Whew, to his Majesty. •As he wished cordially for the relotu
night, could not be properly referred to. It was had always thought it ■a laudable and praise-
rather a mutter of explanation than a twilit of order. worthy feeling. He had always given it as Ws alai- for
.you to consider what provision shell be made for her whom th,"
Maesty under the present circameirmese." Why, what can of 5e,,p,.,,, um' to gravel the la soutraurit.
as
to her Mee
of
ors
soma
he
81,..
, Ilion, that it wits the wily way in which he and those thai mean, amine, indeed, emit her Majemy baring been tried e 4,,,,,„ ~,,„hand The " was nal
eat . . °S, Y 9 hied omit% any emendated no the
Mr. WgTHEIIILLL said, that the ground on whicii -
Hon. Grullemen who thought with him, could and stria Med. ill to be In'sreide'l fur trevr.'linli, ?.--(174"") its eziravalfee•re, but becalms it leaded ytoebjpecietionkise'boife Irlerie Prftreneldis" 1 (VII NihelliNU"aßlii.Awl. al.houglit the. refervinubrho-
he called the Noble Lord to order—[Here the Huss.
or the sante level with one who,
id isilluence to their opinions. mid The Noble Lord had said, that, even if coevseted, some oust virtui.u, Queen c4,,,,,,,5ts that ever was ii, this coyish..
and Learned Gentleman was interrupted, with loud give weight ate her kiiiiral)'• hell are •at float 11111, of day mail CUP- , •
maintensuce should be allowed bar. liss.that eisse 'lion he to say the lea.t, was not int Cries ',to order."] the only means whereby these opining's- could be
(Hr. Twriset) concurred ; ryes if her Majesty had good. He should therefore reinlil 'oin is a vote fur a dart that we venom of groove sity or gftiA.... fedi* would hews
turned to advantage fur the country. Ile would
convicted, still, cousiderisig her kith elation, and the raiek rrdemd sum. As her Majesty was cal to have a Palace, the
Mr. 'hot rose to order. It was but right that never shop to accept or hold office on the terms upon
the Ilefrom which she had fallen, a rowifortattle allowance aboulil sew of 60.00 i. a year was
much mum
that,
ausciesis. Que., hat sa she vaifts".7. ittiiiir-rwr,„,. .%.*:::::‘,..,
...my,
wit should be iu possession of the resist which the Noble Lord hail held it.—( Lyrae/weer.) be made her fur life. But whys he would ask, grant her dal at that time, before tbw-eortlietii egroPlaill a gas to Ka-
wori's which Inc Noble Lord had made use of.—Air. W. LAMB Auld that from lhe fir' lof lise 100•• Bowie, of Amply-4W she .hewed louse* muse
( load cries of orderfrons the illisisferial bench ) e wouldH never accept it on terms that were met
- hi. f I.
eg• peifecilv honturable to yr ings—h ('beers, 50,0001. a yaw why groin mach • rens of the public nsooey . .
iI to this degrade:4ons sanded Quetta? On dist subject hews, ono oad ocethils be. had !laddered the Ministers so btu., as musing than she Jowl seed, and by her gracing.. carriage es Ihe t ~
at • has iti furors as opionot; but when asked, what provision
ready to vote for any question that shall have she teudency eitudid was highly dang9rure to the King. Kethoriam haJ
Ilse agnalion which now existed, semi be should row lso pros& •WArasgolegit So arts their &Met. which hi rait•
The SPEAKER interposed. " and (said Mr. Tierney in an emphatic nine) Po
Mr. Hum& resumed. He rose to order. because help me God! I would sooner die on a dunghill than should be made for an insulted, injured themes, who had
been
ow
and
acquitted,
then he
could form a isiviose.,,,, of prole:Ring aoy further distractive., aril this without / the Pope mid Charles or ;apple ail her protectors, iat
Sc. the Noble Lord imputed to her Majesty espies- receive the King's pay for voiding through some and say that he thought It Rot .tough.—(Clerers.)..The Noble nnytereln reference wbatrv.rsi to she merits of the cam, hitt wort! Majestyt had lost bee hither and lerollwr, 'Odin the bank.
slops which she never used. The Nook Lord work that I have lately frtit."—(LOnd and Curainucti Lord coraplaius of
isthe opposition that is given Mine but 129_ du'all,'"that
alboca'
rut ' eldr
aory they reams wire pe
should fury abi *red
telt
thecountry, asJ could sot be blamed for hoeing Souk-
stated (ihtim we„ his pr.ein worth.), that her Ma• cheers.) —The Noble Lord bee thoughts that the long the cheerio deprived a leeriest and lawful right., to
I shall • Moo be given to him, On the sub. not do what they could rye that desirable par . Though Mr. Alderman SMITH mid • raw words. ..
irdY lied •bee. frequently travelling into emmtlts- re-establishment of the Queen's diameter wits 7° gb. Liturgy, another inetioa sun sea muss be was oiwhilhog• h, it,5„,,,,,,i It, .
jest of ther Majesty, Mr. HUME rose amid load calls of 4 Quotient '"--He
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