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amoder • then
iuty, instead of im bei—, %Vibe •for
vi 4111.1". " •
whale it war origisally Wooded, mid that 11ruititers
'sow. came duos to the Hasse lo allele a grail °filet'
'public money to supply
.11m. west IMAM by such par.
:titian. The Haase could have so Mont that the sma.
wry ought to go to defray the ripener of the forklift-
time,. but he felt it would be 4 kWd eliMilv to get dialli'llo
decideibeilt *herald be so applied, betsdet there were/ mewl
ii,ohlit Holm Wile were illtrested is Ms dratribetim, whirl
world Vets ageism! wiry properailius of that itslorri 004 ter
thenteelves.7.-I-Hrter, histr.)—lle proof of this, helloed amly
ssfyr•tw lbs vote* ill the Committee eif thipply, and the di-
"mist which bvti.takete place we several of the eatilelates;
for it was his ills cwirietios that they world until' A is
howl to In beiti. erred by aMcial men. That camillmhe.
tion'of men in trace *emery each ether's estimates thesnall
tip irritty well; Nut ober to theme►. were sdd.d the its.,,
dimpUlleat liemsber, as they sere called, be warmtli
country Geatlemes, who were nut ia other, but Milk
hailiderists 'to' g;atify.—(Some e.rproesion of disseof Am i
The Treasury thoeb.).'!'be Him. Gentlemen Jammed.
tartleny-ii ; but were there lot, he would a.k, maw, presoak
' who were to itie hit of going dews to the Treasury and
adkliffivtiora, whose voles might is routes be relied or ?
qtrs.., iteser.)r—He mild take opue himself to say that the
eperimee, with rospeet Su the keno Leeds of the' Admiralty,
; hod Imo rerriN by veinal meta, nod Ham, the Solt?* Os
the occasion were the three Lords theatselver-L(fiese, Seer.)
I That, losit'be wished it to be observed, was air extremely
dholithisseee. OM H 0... Member, who wee still qualified
i to jot* hem having sat at the Admiralty 'Robed 'rue lime
yeirsi•doehred they they were of no use • they tirerestives
Imid Meer sore tees to the esab:ie were' in;rthV,ollol. a year
sealt; rest be might be allowed to thrittri at least whether
they mar mirth my thong at ell.—(Helm, llorir.):...ollllMbs
of the revenue were Nut allowed to vole se elsetermie, Maine
they were soder She intlresce of those elm 'bad the pubic
messy at slier disposal; bat' here was a ease is Winch three
illeadker of that thetas sere themselves allowed -CO viittivbe
amount of their owe salaries Mit of the public peir6.
The Him. Member eller reed two eases recorded by Mr.
Hassell; true id a tlynibir who was not allowed to vote, tied
the other of Sir Robert Prestos; whet having voted SA Ate
Ayes before it was discovered, had hie IMAM struck out of the
vote, because it was proved that they had a per/Moat interest
is the questions under consideration.. The appliem sou whiell
be 'mold make of abuse eases she, that 'suck Gentlemen as
wen au the pussmaitra or receipt of any pert of fhe ei per
• eaLghtlis. of Barbados" should not vote ow that loinitiow;
'See amid the Shire Lords of tho Admiralty have berm
slimed Wrote uri the questiod de their teteutiol. Oii a
like occasion the Noble M 'Tile (Lumrdspudacy), who was sot
sum ea hairlike, .Iseii'Metemeif wriest mini peehminary di.-
termini' on the mottos fur going into a Cosissittee;
but" lie (Nr. Creevey) contended- Air hi wis' sang
by • rile and •fftie, ' aetordi'ne lo' (I eerier rotas
of the Consissetido,"of the v'alitestif which helms be mu was
tern.- seatible 'Miro himself-tifier;• tileai)-:-for he ioolied.
oven the forms of Parliament, mid the piablicity of its mo-
I thalliings, as of imakaiaible advieutage ili iheeueseiry. - He
tMli therefore far revile *Whitt: to oleic those forlias.le was
I amiotis It. make the best sad proper use 'inhere': Hts eib•
ijihries Ike bbeievatioue lie bad made war,' Slat it sleight IA
:as ea by Me austiret,- while his Neer. Permit the dlendier fur
11111141Cft. (Mr.'Huifie) hid horn perietiering Sight after
i eight iu a cosiest for the "eiseisiliseht of the expenditure,
end • the tithed:Sift sf.ibe estimates, which AI held praised
Oath arkgree at ladmiry, aleillaity, dramem, aid Miller
the orbit! letterer meet before displardim Ihude *lists,
•hat 'et was that was opposed, igatiat whim hi hid to
ceiteud, add they Mold so leerier weeder 'ar the fallire
aff ,ilsist.trigielems efferts..—( Hari hear, here.)—lfltlftliii
dime subs question, be *Weld um. move, ma ail a
smihr-dsiiiier qtaemioa far the " Speiter's ' "Weise' I
mei
Glltsk the folluweie Itaselativre,' which; if sly Mar emelt
Mime toy ilre(alr. C.) elk it a buss so kiloliter flihnigilk
dm structure of kor seeiherelabdirg(ffear,' keter;" beer
aisfabff),;—"lteiralred, that three appeimitii ' dig Midsatin*
oillmatee for the 'lntuit 'yew,' a charge of 5,01101. 6PM '
pars of (unifications mud tuber winks at Barbildeep ; '.
sell it.. sippers/elm isefereseetto the Journals; Mkt i •
deity of 4i, per met. es the imOuttri of that-Ilifild
beessapprimesated lye Ste' S Legislature ler that'Perpike,' Is
eet
' Memassise irf this Hesse toner it' is awl eetinfistetat With'
duty 14/ vote 5,90td. Ind of the public money for sue% 44X
press mail it ii @misled 'k at the slid 4 Metal'. *ovii
- lam been properly applied suit found - 'fur
perptiati.", ' • ' • - - • • • . I .., inpi
SIC C. LONG said, that the duty of 1k per mit, alladed,
to ereetitiendinf tu'ill she Leeward Islands, mud that it was,
rittallially 'tingled without say restriction. The applicatioa
of Mii* purMia of it to the defelee. of the island might have,
beta very reasonably expected at the period to which the
. Hai. Member bid reverted, 'bait the' cooditioo of that !skald
was now seri different. It whit defended in a different man-
-1 timer, sad eked fur very different purposes front'whil it ism
t ferewerlY. A Cuissiittee of the House is 17p7 had, to its
, Report en the subject, dislinctlY seated that the 41 per cent.
duty was applicable to any purposes to which his Majesty
might AMA fit to apply it. • Illidwoold therefore ask, whether
that Moose would feel disposed, en Use motion of the lieu.
tileittleesae, to make • dairies' application of this flud.frout
that which was derived from isnmeniorial usage?—(" Mow.
Seri,' trek ' ilr Creetsty.).—Did the Huss. Member mean to
' asp that the grant in question was originally iateuded for the
eh pyres which he keel mentioned!—(Mr. Creekey, across
she Henke. " Kea, accorehsg to the Jouri.ala.")—The Address'
of the Muse to which the ties. Member had parried proved
that it was am, because it prayed that it might be Po applied
after pungent of the assmily to Lord Kimmel —(Mosir,
derir.)—tie would only add, that nut a aingle lawyer of
• athusuccdurlog the edit century hail eumetained as opisiva
that they were spot properly and legally St the entire &Areal
vi the CrowNl—(ll,4l7•APer.) ,1144 I I. : . . •
Sir F. BU,N OUT. said, the Right Him Gentleman Inmost
have beeu R 111411.0 a Mae for an argument, sibyl ha era.
I vetted %Polak' tut Calk whielrleas is ho way enameled with
theitineetiori':' Th 4 Milk HIM. Gentlemen had 'said, that
tbed•ties'in weedier* mere alike dispusil (stifle Crum,
mid that they had Wee as masidered tor Hie last century:
Mut to put 11* question is the steeliest romitass, be dished
to Innis, whether at was proper that those (studs which. had,
biek forMer4 set apart to, the maintrmance of the forte in
Ott lislaud; should, 141,1111111 Shea eul; be applied to the Cur.
roldiow df Metntrenrulthe Houk of Cummoar?—(Lord
sided)—Acrd' yet that was the day it had hens applied fine
the, last century. The Might Moo. Gentleman might re.
collect that' practices of more opea and giro tug corruptive
Were 'beriereifitie" defended by tbe same inguaieut ou the
ground of slur gamma notoriety, and' long steadier'.
ttatidlei the fluids eh ' gdwitieb 'l4er4 at the sole' ilia pewit of
the CroVrereir sot, they were like all other feuds weeded
So the Israeli of the public, sad nut fur ii• detriment—,
oar, hear)—snil whea it was seen that the Crown held
(h
o her funds at ale disposal besides those which proceeded
from flee voted of Parliament, it became that Hesse to regu:
Met theismosioreiritie groats accordingly. '• It bat iniposst.
his, to kappose that these fundeetinlel have bees %traded to
turaish peewee to permute lierag is Ibis estuary *bite the
411ekpro of t.he island wee unprovided for„ end , tbdestose he
alatiaitliall44t- chi motion of the Hun. Member fqr Appleby.
• 41f'1601.1LBUNN said that -the Act oft Which the Hon.
Gewttimau tad ihr idea tie whole artytairaf, applied eddy lb'
Berbelkom'alt* yet baited paeileed-illftimprealaeat(%diet•
.1.0011/*4111940, 6i Pre4Slitalltiesalise Wee vaiisliasiati
wad tun evait wive leosautzut,;ll„) ii, 4,-,...a,,, Et Ai:

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iliirlit wawa Rio. Creevey's Resoletioe.. t$
On nurre-edinission to the gallery we foetid the
Maw resolved lulu . Comlailtre of Supply.
THE QUEEN. ,
Mr. Moue[ roof r..,r the purpose of obtanding
some ioforiestoon au a question which inters rd I
every man Who had ally regerd fur the Royal
Family, or respect fur the eatablialwd usages turd 1
digintie! to Which 'they iiere entitled. In the
'
ceuree of tie feet Sess•ou, the sum of 100,0001.
had been voted ill defer,' the expenses of the Core.-
ninon. At that period it was a inatter of doubt
whether her filejerty would ever arrive io this
country. ' Whet 'be lied tb;u to ask wee oho:
first, whether any provision had been made for that
Illustrious Personage fur that occasion, end if en,
whether it would be attended with any add.tional
expense? He could net give credit to some ru-
mours that were in circulation, that when seats
were provided for the peerewies rind oilier diiiini=
guished females, noise was to be merle fur the most
duitiugeielied Personage in the country.—(}!env.
keer.)—lie merely stated that as a rumour, which
was so full of scandal on the part of his Majesty's
advisers that be could tiot•giee it credit; lor, after
the last Session of Parliathept,, her Majesty the
Queen was is fully entitled to all her mirk and pri-
viTges ..* if none of the lute iinfortemite ;veered-
inss hind ever *okras place. He wag sure the; any
sops, pep matter how great, would be cheerfully
consented to by the people fur that purpose; but iF
the approdelting .festivity was only to be made an
occasion of degradation and isisolt to that Illus-
trious Individual, any sum would be unacceetable,.
not imly to a tiiiinber it mccsb.rs of that pone,
b.q_to the airy at large,
'll.c 044 c
Cilliw4) 4 1..i.e Excmitevis could not.
T
discover the east Ciliary between the qsreetiou pro-
posed by the lichs.`filtuuber and the Committee of
Supply. He could merely say, that lie was not
aware ii larger sum would' be required in the pre-
sent Seepion. they had, biro already voted.
Mr. MORCE said,: he did not thri; the question
by. eriy 'igiees4 ii reguler ; Use. huts.; KO. a right
to. know evgrg tlum couceruing the various charges
of the empire. But if he vats to colket from the
answer of the Right Hum Geutiemau•thet ins in-
formation was to be given, he trusted that some in-
dividuat of more imperttne4 genii( "Ake a specific
merlon on the aehieet.
Mr. Woes observed tilt lira Hight Hon. Gen-
Orman (the Chomeellor of the Eggliesper) had
given half an answer. Hr. stated that no adihtionel
egpense would he incurred at pretieut. Perhaps be
would have the kuidness to state whether any ex-
piewe should be incurred at any future period.
The CHANCELLOR of the Excitetsuse replied,
that as yeill;ey aid not know the amount of the
expenses, and therefore he could not give a punitive
answee„‘ ‘
..
Mr. Bgitpnrr obscrved, that if the Right Hon.
G.epileureu (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) did•
not choose to give an answer when the Speaker was
in the Chair, o-epeeific motion should be mode ou
the subject • butlikfeclpsiesility war by no wines
sound, for there was not • ehillirig of money voted
by the Mirsiglers upon WhiCh explanations had not
a right to be'fieltituuleil, and' that he thought was,
the grecise inetueet to 'ask fpr such explanations.
li was not the !nattier of former times to give
long notices of motions, all these forma had been
introduced• of Isle. Ghevances and money were
packed up together. and that would, in his opiuien,
be the best plait to pursue still.
The Marquis of LONDoNDERRY mid, that if,
Gentlemen telt disposed to introduce that as U
qpestion of grievahee, they were of course at
liberty to do so; but if the question was, whether;
the Queen were to be crowned ? he should say,
without tesorting to any thing like techriscelitiev,.
that that was solely an act of the C.-ewti. There'.
was ao Wel-n{Bolre er prieilege attached to the
Craws' 'mere fOOr, or firmly eiliribilibeli; LOKI ea..
taiiilrueder.all the circumstances. neither he nor.
any other of the servants. of the Crown were. dis-
posed to advise .such a measure. If, therefore
qeirtletutit felt inclined to rake up the'cfyiiig.,
the dead embers of that uulsepi/..queittrin,ll
their heads be all the. respousibilitt; lhlle Wes read)'
to meet thetn 011
,Atitpki Well: et an till other
questions.
Ntr, Biouanam, said, that in consequence of '
what had lallep frotu.tbe Noble Marquis, he begged
to make one obstreattion. He did not expect 'the.
question should have been introduced in a Commit-.
tee of Supply, although he sdinitted that such in
occasion was most proper for the discussion of every,
glievalice. With tropect to the Molesting that the
Crowu was vested with the power to refuse that her
Majesty should be crowned, he should et present
say nothing, es there was oa Medea Wait the
House; but he hoped that his silence woultint be
interpreted es giving an assent to the prupatO iO:
Mr.. Warn then moved. that tint impokut94
11i,06
be
ti. to dgisaY the eapetutea of Ahe Shah ./
4 OlNAAlWiliiinline. .
:!
.T•ssiti.wite.w.l ,41-; 0.6.0 r L.! •j, %,:t ie .• i

a" Rep toe •• y. Ws she ¢,uterus
service. He dimly* t ioas oft* Rom Gc stiesbats•
would tend to ilicrewse tad of removisg thio imps i
its the service, and, therefore, as a Military matt, be elkpald
oppose it.
Mr. BENNETT tbosight tbe ergitment of the H so. milt
Gallas( pember would have little 'Frigid ewes .51• am le
appeared to bins that arguing epee the epoblislyrw pls
ahould be supportvd in peace frau: those silspied
was uniting two things diametric** 9Ppeaile too *ether.
The questiuu Cur the Committee to consider }Fah wh poet the.
estimates mow proposed were too snurb,euo hide, orj at
obey shupid kr. With respect te the diftcolties 4, 'promo,
tiwit, Ibis was the radical vice of the symem. Tbey kept or
permits is lime of peace ahu were 'wither fit either in milli.
or body for the duties of war. All his Hon. Fri aid (W.
Home) called us, dwell lo do was, to new-model tha Paysietny
and cummeugf b 7 4**llowll with the ettoreniuts t. amber us
pluralists. He spotlit, therefore, support the prop. sties.
Mr. WARD al=iened, that tattier/ ,tito cosaidei mitts, the
Inrcreard catiblislasocat of the Celonies, the Arid! wry EMl-
match se camiapsewl with former Uwe, were elate arty mo-
derate.
Mr. HUAI* said, that MO One arpporeut bat! beet Peddocet*
evilest his prumwition, except Osot the starers would be
more ribeiest, Wit thee became of their iodise, p orders,
if she gasped Writers were put on 1111441,8,ti1t p *WW's'
'The' Hesse then divided epos sr. *peg Wit itudelleisk•
Tbe members were—
INO, slie asseeimest
Against it t 4,3
Majority • rt
Tle
ilieeZpeisirnzaet RufetethelialiQrtilillewrasy dfrwiveralbe" '7l4lll°‘' b defray
After a few words from Mr. WA,,fO Mid Mr. gMaglrye
the Resolution was agreed to.
Mr. WARD then premed, Hat tbs Meeof g ;;771. bar
granted for the medical eatablioluitent.
Mr. HU Mig object,d to this gnat, as heisg sr time., timers
more than it was is 1794. At that time tire ratub lithrueste
rutiaisted of only Ave servo*. ; now there were I eslymae,
although there were but IX* wee more than in 17 It)?, to he
taken rare of. Still the surgeons were iseresti.d s tWe.fuld.
He should therefore wish to know on has prig, tip.e tlus-
estaidishmest is to be kept up ?
Mr. WARD said, that in fact in 1794 there was eta teed;..
ell establialumeut. They thee proceeded on apl yt which
was a tery bad oar, namely, enspluying prartit titer; llbruaelt-
Allt Wherever they were to be had Now, however, she Me-
th& E.tablivilmeet was is a Matt of proicieger.
LIAM said, his argument remained uotow shed; as
for saying throe geodesics had sufficient to alter oto wee
quite ridiceloses. There were at prevent ten ass ion" it
Woolwich, and if all the perms, were divided among jet diem,
there would nut be 100 men for each. This certain ly was a
proportion that should sus exist. He should thereto ye mews
that the sum of 3.7781. be reduced Crum the pretreat grant.
hie ULYSSES BURGH observed that there I ed bets,,
medical nisei sent out to Ceylon and the other auleeies,
which eetweitarily mere increase the establishment.
Sir JOSRPH YORKE said that at all events tb b might
get rid of tbe Direetor•Gesetal. They had tau uct mesa Air
bis aur=as to gime relief to the Coloines.
After • few words from Alr. HUME the House apist
vided. The megabyte were—
Far Abe ameadtileabt llll
Agaisamt it

Majority. ..
The next Resolution, was, fur the moo uf.8,610L delkap
the extremes of Woolwich Academy.
Mr. HUME opposatt the greet, on the goon 111 that it
.lie cate4l more young sees the. could be previth d fury and
ilk appeared to him nowise to raise expectations peat. mold,
net be realised.
'Err U. BURGH stated, that the nensher of y mpg mere
*deemed there was gradually decreased every yeas
Mr. HUM E *erred, Him the number should I a redeem(
to forty ur Shy, fur any pester member must wily is a wms
/zo:y. They had already peid B,ooo‘. towards .thist mom
nt, and they were now called spots for AA jW, man.
nirn only n few. iwe4TAnhln,ros.l4. derive any adeasitepu
Into is. He Amid *teary, more that the.* oft Le,ret.
thiced by 3,305 t.
Mr. WAKDstated. Ilse; the theater-Gesieralhad.akearie
ordered a iedisetioo to 100 yonag men. The Hu p. Geuthe;
save thee teak a evaiparativelriew of the expense p or 171$
sad tbe present, to slow that the expeaser had Lrelvtory
increased.
Mr. HUME contended that whatever might have hsep,
the smite, of 1798, that which was pursued at I tgraent asAta,
awl wasteful and extravagant. Upuil a call alai, pas rt...
expense, he was assured that earls cadet had cost,thei,t,,,l,.
exceediee 2,0001. a piece.
Mr. WARD explained the system of proan, in ah,
regimen corps.
Mr. BERNAL did not think the statement 4of 114. E 1...
Friend (Mr. Hume) had received any seiner: Its p 054:...,.
wee, that it was Impossible to And employment foe 45 c 011/41.. ,
which was the proporlios of the redend number of 100.
Calomel HARDINGE said it would be is roe !woe; ..f
the llsete;,Geseral to lower the establishtent (still Pit wr,
should it be found necemery to do so, after usitslot
shush! be redeem! to 108. •
After a few other temerk• from Sir U. PIURGH,.IIIr.
HU LIR, sad Mr. BRAIN Err, the Committee 'Aivided, whew
there appeared--
Fur Mr. Hum'aameadment

Apart it -63
3lojerity 43.
Os the Revels' km heist propmed for par ti sg.l,43St
MUmto be paid at the Treasury sod the tackiest •ea
the Balsams Estimates fee the year—
My. BERNAL said, it appatted minimalism to biga
sad to mbar" that what they were voting se mh,litrie teal*
et Meath they shiisid artery's& be called • *pokier Sash
sea as this by way Of rider.
Sir CHARLES LONG sala the Oilityre sf thlt
jam are lesslijeatitkd to Ilabr fres.