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1141:1!1 or TAN ES.

Sir WM. DF (let sett.% v emnplairreil that the Papers nr.
skied on 111, Sill of !kir u,-tutu, front the Board Gl' Taxes,
11411 Ps ,s I burn 141.15 s islo-sl • It site aped as if the par tics at
•Icrit•lvol 1119.111 y, mid s‘lss sink from exposure.
lie
1.11.11,-.1 11141 lli'., Pop,. be 10ri0.1111.111 forlllWllll.
11e I.t sills Girls said, that the clerks at the other were
Ivety d,y tisiiilo)t.ll :di • opyitog the Wiper, The Vuaril
could nui have Ihr least Beane to wiluhuhl 11w, papers, and
they Wire at ansiiiits fur teuirry as the Hun Its, outt could
he. •1•h,• Fluu li uaurt icily heard tint' stile ur the case ; Ire
lissisesl hr wtsteal 1114 judgment until he heard ilit
other.
Sir W. DE CRWFPICICV said, that the papers really
waittral, and %stitch rulslailseil all the necessary lisforllialissos,
Burrs• ntl♦ al lit m•'u1:•vl. A grater quantity would rather
Co„i•u.r 111311 • 1111-111.11 r ilir %11 /1j eel.
lir LusnlNG'rON a:stared Ilse II ...... uruble Baronet that all
rip, .Ist tom was w'sssltier 'liens.
N.O I:IIWiRD KNATCIIIII.•f.r. said, the Moron:1111e flatcar'
nno:. a ,sei lutif (11:1fle wzstailsl huuourable Hien, whirls
he It oist.d h.• would revoke, when he was further infoi•tnt'l
Ott Ihe .nbj• el He WAS certain Hint there W:l5 no Just
emonlaint against else Couonissioner ur his clerk in
the Kent lll+i,ict.
The paper* were ordered to be proiduced forthwith.
WOO trAi maws Frew-sited A Petition from the
M'siril of lir•:u.' -t% tug fur relief trUlli the
presser: of the Coal
HMI N E.
Mr. ( Pll3l %II MIEV psi scented a Petition from the Electors of
He, lioriiiigh • f llarn•laph, in Devon. He &laird lhal it
was a very ancient nuruiqh, -.TA had lung exercised the
tight of ►nolts,g Mciabberos to l'ailianient—that the disc►e-
nun with which they had est trised it, hail never been
lontight in till on a fete 0CC31.1011, and therefore
buinlily pinyt.l the House of Commons not to interfere with
their t i...ihts—Arlw Petition was real, and, :etre a few words
front NJ,. BEN'S vrr and lord CLIVR, tool on the table.
o ere pars/risk.' fruits the sante place azaitist the
retie.. al of 1 lir Isisol Trill Delitors' Act, and narrist any Nl-
tei.ii.oti in Ihr Duties un Colds
Lad CLIVIs then moved, "'[hat the Sp( aker do not issue
his WJ1:11111 IU make out a new writ fur the Borough of
tile but foie Friday neat
.1 l'i lit ion was present. d ft tin the Freelioldt ra of &slop
a;aiint any altrratiun in the Ditties on Cua....

PAPERS.
Mr Si snvatir pstpoo, it his motion for the production
of the Cm lesposieleuce Interred the Bank and the Chancellor
of the Exchequer.
11r. Li sulticercest presented an ACCOIRIIII of the various
sotn~ Arid into the Rey, ipt of Excite, you , fur the last
quart, r.—taid on the table.
Si.. RICAR.IIO presented a Petition from NI incliinizlisuip-
ton, ugao,•t the Insolvent lichtuis' Act—Referred to the
Cumniittie on the said Act.
Ile. S RotAtxr: broin.tht in a Bill to amend the Law re-
et lig the Settlement of the Pool —Read the first—to be
read the sec 1 time on Friday.
Me Gar %vita. I tesetit,il a Petition from the Parish of
Si. A 1111.1., Blarkfi ins., against the London Clergy 13,11.
Laid on the table
Lord 6 CAVENDIRII pre., Ord a Petition from Chester-
field, ii, th, comity of of the styes ity of
the I', initial Code.
Mr HAtti%G presented a simile, Petition from the town
of Tauidoii.
Both Petitions referred to the Committee on the Criminal
Mr. IYEsT►a!t moved for " An Aeroflot of the quatillty
Of Seeds of all d,sretpttoms imported into firrat Britain,
from the yea, ISM, inclusive, lo the lateet period to which
the dates can he mute up, together with the amount of
duly—dim moats:ling each sort, the t try from which the
saute weir brought, specifying the quantity in tech year,
nod disfingnishinr those brouzlit from Ireland from those
imported fiedirt usher c t ites.*--Ordered.
On the mutierii of Nlr Itteselkaos, the Report of the
Quiarter Session Bill was brought up and agreed to. To be
reail the third tittle Oil Thursday next.
Mi. I..slentosi put off, until Friday next, the considera-
tion of the Petition of General Goers:end—beyond which pe-
tit/A, he observed, he would nut puatputiv the question.
CASE OF THE HON. WYNI)HAM
WYNDIIAII QUIN.

Sir It moved that the Order of the
.1).1.. for imitier Cosoideriiig the complaint
the littn. W. Quo), be now recd—wstell !taring
!wets 0110tt.2, the Hon. (kowtow) movtd, " That
the !..trsttrr owilu,Sl the !1011. W. QUM,
In now taken into tinker t:ots.wieratiott."

Qum immt.i.,,,,•17 rose sod 'puke to the
ful oasiig effect :—" Placed ail I am, Mr. Speaker,
in a sit viten,' of extreme difficulty and delicacy, it
as nterwearyfist me to lac lame the /lonia- a short
narrative of the facts of this case—aid I hope,
Gentlemen wall indulge ate nits their patient at.
wink I take as brief a vies, of the question
SA Cif rllll$lllllllCeY Will penult. Sir, %%lirii I before
bad the honour of aildre...mg this noose, on the
upd.r consideration, in the staietnent
4 biro utulr, 1 vorlitied myself io the matter of
list l'rl.ll ..... of 01.1ith I 11.0* bold a copy m oty
band—an,' I did 4;ecl ire, ilia the charges contain-
ed an nh it Petition a. re iint funneled its fact —that
I 41* n.ut gui!ty 1.1 the corrupt pratticts which
.mere usaiim mei Sir, our of the lira

charges mule 'so that Petitiim is,
Mat I 4 broke
up the emoluments or the raid office of Cook
oil the Prace into lots, in order to dirtrilinte
the PP I lot I.IIIOIIK rush persons, ermaiisaiiilieg
sn influetice in the conoty, is I knew, or pre,iitilcd, I I
would undertake, ill consideration thereof, to sup-
port me on any future emote:rt.' It is very true, Volt
I placed *charge on that office—loft it is no loss
trap that it was ;so faenur of Mr. Orally himself—
and it ell 1.1 a little hard to he nos brought
before this limise. 11- Mr. (;holy, for that action,
a liteli hr has been pleased to impute to use ;is it
Bat, Sir, riven dm measure did tint ori-
ginate with myself—it arose blot. the suggestion of
coheir—and I whinier) it with pleasure, hteituse I
had the best inclioatimi to se rye \I r. Grady, and I
%vivo Merit HIOEIOIII hi •111. w that iodination in any
way which wittsiii the scope of my power.
This proivi:oom srair freely proposed to him, uti.
accompanied wi h any stipulation, unattended
hy alit compact, end, in fail, without my thlck-
Mg of, Or luoknog to, any patronage whatsoever.
As I have already ban!, Sir, the offer was amide
purely lied a wordy not of regard to 1I r. Grady,
and without any view, object, or motive, but to
serve him. The proposition did nut rest on
only claim he had, or Oil any promise that I had
vivid,- to hi itt : it was a f7rc and apont*lleous
otter. When I touch on the subject of a promise, I
um aware that that does not constitute any part of the
ell oige against use—hut, as pains have been taken
to spread abroad that, if I had nut made
an absolute promeie to Mr. Grady, I had approach-
ea su near it, as to lead Mon astiay. This stair--
thengli seot !batter of charge, rests as heavily
nu me, that the Mouse, I trust, will indulge sue,
while 11.1 V a few wands tin th;t,
I should Ca lush, Su, fur iny conduct it I hail led
Grady astray by any thing like delusive hopes.
I nut only never intended to lead him astray, but I
never even uttered an ex;oression that would bear
such an inteiretiition. I know, that where poi
tike detached parts of a conversetion, and separate
them from the whole, those fragments may he tor-
tured so as to mewl any thing. This faro is exem-
plolled by the co:tyros:mon which Mr. (heeady, the
father, had with me, in ',modulo, oto the 117th of Au-
gust—the day after which lie ontroupted to fix upon
use a statement of the collversntion, :is lie called it,
which occurred on the preceding day. Nothing
omid lie inure unstated or misrepresented than
his lice:wont of tilt conversation—and the answer
it rote to that letter will decisively prove the lac'.
A% extract from that letter I will reed, if the
Mouse will ',How me. It is in answer to a letter
from Mr. Grady, in whit, la he says, ' that he is
called over to l)ublin smith-illy.' I said, in answer
to Mr. Grady, I have received your letter, an-
-11011 liCltig your depariure, and recognising what you
convolve to be the substance of our conversation,
and I beg to inform you, that you labour under
route mosapptehroision. l'on say, that the conver-
satire: between your eon and sue (t point on which
you and lie are perfectly agreed) did not amount
to a promise of the 'Act:, although it directly im-
pooed that I would nut disturb hint.' Now, if
you mean that 1 ever said to your son i hat I would
cut disturb him, you are overly mistaken—l never
made any promise not to remove him, or used
single word to express such a nie:rioing. On the
contrary, I stated bow I was corcumstanced, and
the direct import of my observation was, that I
would be obliged to remote him. I entertain the
14.'011w-et reward for your soon; but if he thinks the
toire and temper he lest aesuined likely to keep up
that regard, or to curry any point with me, lie will
bind blouse:lf totally talisiakeia.—thleae, hear.)—
have told Mr. It. Smith, that I would give him
the office if the app4,1115 meld resided in me. I have
not at tett on light grounds • and I will meet
and teeel hostility (ruin whatsoever quarter it
is i Xtrit'll olgatiost aste.`.—,'//ear, isear.)—sCer-
troiolv, Sir, no delusive hopes are held out here.
I trust, let the Mouse think of me us they may on
other subjects, that they will believe me when I
say, that I would be more galled mod mortified
than can he itna,gineol, if I thought it could he
supposed that l iiitetilled to Irail 3lr. Grady astray.
The Petitioner nerrr di-charged the duties of the
office petsimoolly —mid I did not think that I was
titling improperly whet§ I placed all individual in
the sitaotlon, 5%110 hail strong claims ma me—who
was capable of 4 11..st'll:irgi lig the duties of the of-
tice—and who did perform them effectually. The
eller of a provision oat of the emoluments of the
effice was, I repeat, reposed and comi 1111 l n-
eeded to Mr. Grady without any stipulation'
chatever. At first he was not inclined to take
it—tie wanted a larger sum. A few days after-
wards, two geellettieti called on tile, on be-
half of the Petitiol er, and desired further se-
curity for the payment of the sum intended as
provieion for lime The appointmeiot of Mr.
Smith during pleasure was then spoken of, and
they left me under the idea that the matter was ars,
ranged to the ssti•factiou of all parties. I left the
country under that impression, and without the
slightest feeling that ally stipulation whatever was
called for. This was no the 'month of June—and I
postponed making nut the new appointment fur
two mouths, in outer to enable the Petitioner to sa-
tisfy himself whether he had any claims at law or
nut. In the mouth of September following, when
on my way to London, I received a letter from Mr.
C. Smyth, reque-ting permission to call on me if I
passed througia Dublin, because he thought lie
could eliew me that I could not legally remove
Thomas 111. Grady. I atinwered that I should be
very happy to have the honour of seeing him, but
that I invent immediately to appoint Mr. IL Smith
to the office. Nit.. Carew Smyth did call on me,
on the '2lst of Septetnher, and we had a con-
versation of considerable leogth. After all the
topics that bore on the question were discussed,
and alter I had distinctly stated, that 1 retained
my inteittion or reserviug a certain ausitual run' for
T.ll'. Grady, Mr. C. Smyth ?aid something at t
Mr. Greely'e political into-rest, and the support lie
had given me on foruser roecaions. I conies.. that,
in the courre of this cannel:Nation, I did any, I hoped
and eitpreted that Mr. Grady would continue to
give me his support.—(!/ear.)—Perhaps the wiser
sod more prudent plan would have been, nut to
have mentioned that point to ling at all. Rut, Sir,
never thonght of makioig it a etipuhetion, tit tiny
thing like a condition. I !lever did imagine thst
I tie: Petitioner, or only other person, could believe
that the oleo of such bill lilt I'lololl had ever entered
auto my contemplation,. 1 hope, Sir, I may also be

allowed to say, that, if I had herr c.irrne,l myself,
or entertained corrupt views, with respect to others,
I would have gone differently to work. This con-
versatiou laid the fottiolat too of all that took place
Illterl% and!, It was assumed by the Petitioner, awl
ley follierS, that I stipulated with him for hi, interest.
I told hint most thquirily that it was not au—and at
length all the parties became exceedingly angry.
Reports were sent about of the existence of 'motile
intetitnats towards myself in the mind of the Poi-
flOort —dial laiiil/01011% were to be showered on me
by his father—awl that every *species of annoyance
was to lie put 114 I t(1111‘ii itni against me. S.r, I put
it to the cantioar of the House, whether, under
such a state of things, I could be fairly coitsiderrd
a, actiag the part of a free agent ? Could it be
sesiquistel that I was not agitated and influenced by
such injurious re-porta ? Sir, I beg the House to
turn its attention to the intrinsic mature of the case,
and to its internal evidence. I UM sure they will
vet how impossible it was. that I could have
ever dreamt of stipulating that the Petitioner should
support me. It is said, that 1 declared, ' I
must have a quid pro ipso,' words, by-thv-by, which
I never used. Bat what was I to receive ? Mr.
Grady had very little incited to give. lie has no
fee simple. All his freeholders are registered on
leitseholdose-ott four Immo, I believe, each of which
is held under a Chaste-10 landlord, for the life of
one individual. One of those lives I am told is
that of a very old Illittl•••-and the lives on which the
two others ate held, are far advanced, the radial-
duals being not less than sixty years old. One of
these very farm.. it must out he forgotten, is my
own property. I. it, Sir, credible, if I had divided
an office for the purpose of pre-serving a corrupt
nifluence, that I would have selected is person to
forward toy views, whose intereat was of such a 1311
titre ? I. it ta he auppowil, that I would have acted
tilts., immediately after the electiou, when it was
likely that aunt h. would not hel:Ilf for years. by
wheels time, petit, is, this itattorst would have melted
away ? Besides, the IS at, will wroth-el that I had
the powur, at soy tour, f depa.vitta .11r Grady of
the. Slim Offered to 111111. %% t .!t•Cl•yea,ty then could I
have to stipulate for hi- esi, when the power
remained oil hme to re. il .i, captivation to him
effrcittal at any too, ? .0 ~,,g cool(' be snore ab-
surd—there could not be a more gratuatous piece
of huhe,y malt In--, if ii ever were attempted.—•
(ilear.)-11r. 12. Smyth asked leave to make •
inmate of the conversation which passed between
us. Inc' next tat I received that minute, and, on
the same duly, I returned it. At that interview I
told Ms. 1... S•ss) di that I did not want any coma
pact sir awe( 'new with the Petitioner. I (lid not
receive a copy of the militate, and I refused to sign
it. That paper is was' introduced as a document
against me—hat I do not find that I have had the
advantage of the observation I made at the time,
that I would not enter into any comp tct with the
Petitioner—and yet I appeal to the whole tenor
of my subseepaetit conduct, in support of the
truth of that !statement. Aber the interview
with Alt. Sitsyth, I went to the country, and, a few
days afterwards, the Petitioner called iiii me. I
float of all told him, what I subsequently repeated
in the presence of Mr. Roche, namely, ' that I did
not look for any stipulation from him,' and I re-
fused to cuter solo any sort of condition with him.
Soon after this, Mr. C. Smyth cane down to me. A
report preceded his visit, which had reached my ears,
dm he came down fur the purpose of delivering a
hostile message to sue. I regret that such a report
prevailed, for it certainly had its effect—but 1 re.
Bret obit more, that Mr. C.Snyth did not take down
some mutual friend with him, to state the point in
dispute fairly nod temperately. 1 still remained
firm to my purpose—but such a person ll* I have
alluded to, I could feel no wish not to meet and to
explain. in his presence, every part of my conduct.
The character of all the conversations I had
on the subject with Mr. C. Smyth and the
Petitioner—and the object which I always on.
derstood they had in view—related to • pledge
required if me, and not to any stipulation
demanded by me. The endeavour was, to obtain
from me a pledge that the provision should be made
to Mr. 'l'. W. Grady, for life. That, Sir, I cer-
tautly refused—dud I think the Mow has seen
enough of the temper of Mr. Grady to justify me
in being a little cautious how I bound myself by
any isgreenient, or placed myself within his power.
Sir, the question never was reduced to the narrow
groom' of voting for me, until it was mentioned by
11r. Gabbed. It was he who first told me that
there a as it misconception out that point, and, if' I
could act it right, the whole matter would be ex-
plained. It was true, indeed, that I always said,
tile Petititmer might vote as he pleased—but. as I
never declared, that I would not dismiss him, if he
opposed me, it was considered as implying that I
meant to do so, if I slid not receive his support.
Then it was that the question was put on this nar-
row ground, and I did bind myself not to deprive
him atilt. annuity at any time. I think, Sir, under
these circumstances*, when I had thus put all con-
trol over Mr. Grady's political influence out of
my power—when I haul completely shewn to the
world, that there could be im question as to his
bring a free agent—and when I actually bound
myself not to interfere with him—it is a little hard
to be dragged before the (louse, as having acted
corruptly. It may he alleged that the political
support was the chief obstacle to the completion of
a satisfactory arrangement. 1 don't know, if that
be the cane, Stow to reconcile it with the fact of the
flotation being, as I thought, completely set
at rest, when Mr. Grady himself accepted the
benefit offered to hint ; nor can 1 conceive
what the motive could be that induced hint
afterwards to depart from hie original inten-
tiou. Sir, I will not trouble the House with
the letters I have written
to Mr. Grady, the father.
The House, I 3111 confident, is well aware of what
his object was—of his having told me that utiles* 1
bought hum off, by rc'torimsg Ins sun to office, he
would %nog tile stud the whole subject before the
House of COlllllll$llS ; and that a large body of the
Members of this flamer, outongot Those whsent he
termed the °Nomad 44444 tool given him great en-
couragement so to do. I will not, Sir, repeat what
my opinion uti this point iv. It is sufficient that I
despised lair threui--atid I felt that it was ten times
more to be alespiaral on account of the calumnious
Insinuation which it cutitained against many Mem-
, bete of this 1-iiitioe—(llear.)-1 will mot any, Sir,
that
my utterly delaying those charges IS to be taken
as a proof any innocence--but I hope it will be re-

ctivetl as, at le tst, a strong prtsumption of it.--
For, 14 it to be belie, veil, if I had felt that I was tint
Moot:rot, that I roold he guilty of the wad and mad
presnitiptioil of appearing before the House of Corn-
mons to plead to a charge, of which, if I
were (till.
Vit Pll, 1 11,11%, rill', never to raise my head again ?--
Hear, bra• I hail the means of complying with
Mr. Giatly's deinatill —I could have restor,d his
son to ollicr—bah I refused all compromise, because
I 'NA. above haunt{ con opt. I dicta:tic(' the ignomi-
moos safety I hal was offitred to toe, anti threw myself
oil the pudic.. ill the !loose of Comnions.—(hear,
hear.; I it ice now, Sir, closed my c Ise. I have said
all that I deem neoessaiy—l hare told the teal his-
tory ol tile transaction—and I cats only declare, that
Ido feel myself inittocent of this foul charge. If,
Sir, in the course of this transaction, I have dour
any thing that appears to the House to be wrong,
can only say, that it was au error of my judgment,
for I did not wilfully intend to act improperly or
illegally. Perhaps some Gentlenseit may think,
that the, having directed any change to he marl. in
the Office of Clerk of the l'eace, was, in itself,
improper; if the) do, I CM/ only beg of them to
consider how I was situated.. I shall now, Sir, leave
thill point, and the consideratiou of the whole soh.
ject, to the fair, impartial, nod ctndid judgment Of
the House. I ask riot for lavour—l pray for walling
but strict justice."—(!liar, hear.) —Mr. Quilt then
withdrew.

Sir R. Wtt.soit hoped that the indulgence which
the House had granted to him during the whale
coot se oh Unt proceeding, would not now be with-
held from him, when he had the most arduous part
of his deity to perform. If purity of motive, if the
total absence of all political or party feeling, it the
entire exclusiou from his mind of every species of
private istionest, if these circumstances entitled a
Member of Parliament to the indulgence of the
I louse, then he was convinced dial his were sound
and valid pretensions.—(Year, bear.)—hitherto
he bad only urted as the official conductrir of
the Petitioner's complaint—hut now he op-
peered in another character, lie stood in the tut-
vidiuus situation of a public accuser, charged with
the respoos hility of stating his view of the ques-
tion', and delivering those opintoos which he had
neither hastily nor rashly formed. The House, lie
trusted, had seen, by his conduct in the former
part of this proceeding, that hi, object was only
the discovery of truth—sand he hoped they would
now find, that lie meant not to attempt, by any
forced construction of evideoce, or by 'toy subtle
interpretation of testimony, to disguise the real
nature of the facts, or to mislead the judgment of
those who were now assembled to decide on this
important case. It was only since he came to
the House, that lie teamed it was customary
for the individual accused to withdraw. The only
difference this would make was, to I
render
Ann Inure
scrupulously exact in offering observations on this
subject, in the abseil( e of the Hou. Member.—
(/fear.)—Tile House would recollect that the
charge was for having proposed, by a corrupt
bargain or sale of sit office ministerial to justice, to
secure the political interest of the Petitioner at the
ensuing election of Members to serve in Parliament
for the comas. of Limerick—a charge, which, if true,
must be considered as at, offence against the duty of
the accused, as Castor leotollorum, a breach of the
privileges of that House, and in direct violation of
the statutes of the realm. Evidence had been
given in sui 'poi t of this fact—and to that lie (uvula
strictly to confine himself; for, although Justice
demanded that he should defend her cause, without
reference to ally individual feeling, still she did
not require that lie should inflict our wound more
than was esseional to the piotection of her rights.—
(Hear, hear.)—lit calling the attention of the
(louse to the charge, it would be necessary for him
to invert the evidence. Ile would commelice with
the testimony of the Petitioner, and his statement
he would make the basis of the charge. He would
do this as briefly as possible—but, in a judicial
proceeding, affectiog so deeply the interest of vari-
ous parties, and coniproinisitig the honour and cha-
racter of a Member oldie, House, Gentlemen, doubt-
less, a ould prefer that I.e should attend precisely
and perspicuously to the evidence. rather than give
a loose and hurried recaPitulation of it. The Peti-
tioner, T. W. Grady, stated that lie had been ap-
pointed to the office of Clerk of the brace, 15 years
ago, the duties of which was performed by deputy.
That lie was intimate with the Hon. Member for
Limerick, for many years—and that, between two
and three years ago, the Ilon. Member applied to
Ihim for his support at the next general election,
which lie promised. In consequei.ce, Petitioner
applied to hint to be confirmed in his situation,
immediately after the election. The Hon. Member,
Ilie stated, said to him, " Depend on me, and you
shall have no reason to complain." Petitioner pro-
ceeded to Limerick, and lie there heard that Mr.
Quin intended to appoint Mr. K. Smith to the
office. In consequence lie wrote as feeling a letter
to the lion. Member, as could be composed on
such a subject. He would only advert to one
passage of that letter, in which lie said—" As
this report is most irritating and galling to me,
though I know front what you said to me it is
false, still it will be a consolation to hear from you
on the subject." The Han. Member did not deny
this by a reference to facts, but answered
" The matter rests precisely as it slid when you last
left me, therefore let me suggest to you the pro-
priety of not attending to any reports." Thus letter
was not less remarkable for its ashilli.lllolll 01411 its
omission's. It admitted tlEot the subject had hero
«oder considerateiiii, but i tit u word was said about
the situation ',clog no looisin• to be performed 1)),.
de-
puty. 11l consequence or this letter the Petitioner
supported Mr. QUIII at the electiosi, and ..fterwards
went to Adore, to have his appointment
This was refused, but lie was told that lie might
hold the office fur two years. The Petitioner re-
jected this offer with indignatitio. Some Ertends
lilted's-red, sod it was determined to leave the mut-
ter to arbitration. sir. Quin then went to the
Petitioner, and said, " You shall have YOU/.
a-year out of the emoluments of the office."
This the Petitioner likewise rejected, although
one of -the Gentlemen, who acted as arbitrator,
recommended him to take it. He would, how-
ever, louse nothing to do with the transaction.
At this period these was no charge against the Hots.
Member fur having attempted to procure politica
support by au otter of YOU,. a-year. But his land
agent afterwaids ihlintned the Petitioner, that if he
took the auuuity he would be expected to vote fur

Mr. Quin sail I.i. hiends—sin‘. Mi. C. Smyth subs
itequently stated, th4t the entailitinis, 111441.4 h but
specified, wee perfectly understood.
ever, Mr. Quin utterly dented. On the 24 is fit
..s.prerill-r, the Petitioner received a Irters
Niro. C. Smyth. 1,1 which he acquanitial lii " timt
he hail seen Nit.. who would give h ti
a-vriir, 011 the condition that he altoutot *Wind Mr.
Quin his politic:li tiupport." Ile Kaye nn ilecuir
answer, behig, anxious, in the first instance, to kilaw

gnat the detento momn of hi% hither iwir. 0n the wr.

j:•el. Ina lAtiagfttph tOWtelda the fritil 1.1 51114011.-1
letter, the Petitioner said, " !is hr inf. rs me taint/,
a-year, which lie can deprive tue of at pleasure, ‘,“‘i
demi* lids of me fir the boon, my prilitital support,
I must refuse the 'inquisition." At a lam period,
the Petitiomer received a letter front Mr. C. Smyth,
advising him to accept of the offer with a gond
grace, and In a cheerful arisl friendly mwiter.
young In in, indigtialit at the propositions, :mil v•-•... 4
at the breach or promise on the part of Mr.
wrote in these terms to Mr. C. Sitiyali—" I have
just received your letter, awl swill you would it;
Quin know, that I reject its '2OO/. a-year, coune.l
as it is with a promise of comporting. him ; a per;.
nose which lie !never demanded until the pt event
niomerit." On the Myth of September. the Pert-
limier i«rireil another letter from Mr. C. Saw's,
in which lie said
6. Quin has left town before aikido-refute it is impettsib!os
for Inc to 12,0111111,1111ca1c tit him in ilVt4oll Ih• rejerti•oo of
the areatogianolit 149 pt oleo, d by loin. I e..tainly alit
anrse tit laklioz any 11051110 pioCevohtle,, Mali I lira, farther
from your f her; in soother week, :it the fuothect, .h4ll
have 1114 answer to my I. tier, calking 0., hint for a fall awl
explicit declaration of his si uttments tot the subject ; until
that iv received, I see sou harm in delay. I Iry-owed a teller
from him nu the 2411,, dated the 18th, written of coarse b tare
my interview with Qom ; in this lie is as cep...sly itaxpovedi
for iswar :1,1 yoto *erns lit ; and from the tune of Ins lrit. r
it is out improbottole that Ise wall iontlitle ; kl thee..
fuse it he ultimately thou:Ott expedient to %ma Quin a 1110.%..
into, it will he highly eloosnictury to have your fisher's Von.
CUircitre in such a ill,a,Ure. lit iny rottltilllniclitluil stir'
him (tlittli), I nontrivial him, that when 1 1111116eii to you tin
proposal, I advised you at the same Line to ii .lay Karim; an
a lISWIT on all% part of it, till gin r y.... had consulted rote
father; the delay, th.refore, will he solely attrilontaltie to me,
and I am willing to lake the *Mole tespousilulity on my.- h"
The young mart, uoable to restrain in. ,ee.1114.,
and enamor to bring the matter to a close, pia«
ceeded ter Adare, where lie saw sir. Quin, front
whom he demairited an exidatiat too. Mr. Qii",
said, lie was isilltug to give Imo 200/. 01 year, pro-
vided he would sail with IMot tit the same politico'
vessel. But, if he pleased, he might give up the
'moody, and dispose of his interest to any other
Candidate. The Petitioner rejected the offer, tool
afterwards went into the parlimr, where Nle.
Roche was introduced, whets Mr. (411111 said, " You
may have the 200/. a year, and consider yourself
perfectly free." Tile Petitioner answered, 6. Your
idea of freedom and mime are veiy diffi-rent. You
said, in the other room, that I was to receive 11...*
sumo, on condition of my sailing in the
ee.sel with you. Vi'hat do you mean C %VIII pm give
the aOO/. a-year without cotitlitiem i" Mr. Quin'a
answer was "Certainly not." Tne Petitioner snit.
.6 I will take the ilia. a-year, provided my politi-
cal conduct is left solely t« myself, and you have
no reason to anopose that I will vote teguitist you."
He them went away. lit the mood, of oerabee, it
was reporter' to the Petitioner, that Jlr. Quin would
allow him the 200/. it-year, onirl that he tittglit, hot -
withvtunditig, remain " as flee as air." Mr. C.
Smyth its consequence %%cot over to Nir. Quin, to
inquire what hilt intentions really were. Mr. Qum
'ranted irritated at the reports that had goire Monad,
and ober reed, that threats had been held out to loin,
ill Case lie thil tint tic! as the Petitinuer pleased.
Mr. C. Smyth wrote to the Pelittisi.er informing
him, that '6 Nlr. Quirt said, lie had given tro pro-
nitre, and consequently lord broken noire—and that
the negotiation had failed siltogrther." lit a few
days after the Petitimier received a mesasAe from
Mr. Maunaell, stating, "'float Mr. Quits would
give him the MR. a-year, and leave Rine to vote as
lie pleased." The Petitioner then wrote a note to
Mr. Quin, in which lie stated, " That he would
accept of the oiler subject to the approbation of
his Shortly alterwarda, lan received 4
letter from his father, desiring hint to break off the
negociation, as such a compromise would lie a 1101..
11111011 at' character, corr.pletsly illegal, and that the
transaction should be brought before the High Court
of Parliament. The Petit:otter then went to Wind-
ham Fitzgerald, and stated to loin, for the itilariortv
Out) of Mr. Qum, that lie utterly rejected the oiler.
Ile next proceeded to Dublin, rod then came to
England, %%here his father thin hint, fur the first
tour, that he must he the Petitruiier-...1i4 the Offer
was made to him, it was necessary that he altould
prefer the complatot. Such was the story the Peti-
tioner told at the bar, and to him the statement ap-
pealed to be perfectly corisistent. The Petitioner
never had committed any act, which tended to an
impearliment of los veracity. He knew from Mem-
bers of this House, arid Irian 'unitary otficeia
who had resided in Limerick, that no 111,1;1
bore a better ur more honourable character
than Mr. Thoinaa NVilliam Grady. lie was etc-
lately confused at the questions put to him nu the
course of his cross-examination, but he would I.e
aisle to ?thew that all the l,rimaipat allegations of lii
Petition had been folly proved by the other wit-
mimes. The next witneta to whose evidence lie
meant to call the ottention of the !louse, was MI.
C. uas introdneed to thair notice ai a
Gentleman of the highest character lit his prof --
snot—and the teatiniouy he gave at the bar %vocal
lie the use-ros Of continuitig tad incre•stog the
eatetati and reaptct of hie frrends—mad of ail who
had the pleasure of hearing hiui.—(hrur.)--
Ne atated, that, oo the elm of September, he weld
to Stillorgair, the residence of Mr. Goold, while
he saw Mr. ti ...am, abuse denr`11111:ita011. spilt re-ape-et
to the office of Cleak of the Peter, lie requested to
know. Ali. Qum said, " I hive given the otisce
to Richard Smith, but I inn determioed that
T. %%'• (i'ailY shall have '2OO/. a year out of the
emoluments, awl to seethe porietuality of pay-
ment, I %111 take cafe that the appoitittnard
be only dutirig my pleasure." ~l r. C. Sill% th
urged his original promise, but 111 r. Qom
denied that he had eter m. dr blrll a poi oloh.e.
Hr further said, " If Thomas IV.lltain 6;84
accepts the /OW. a-year, I rehab expect the Grady+
to give mar their pohlscil support—to he puolnlcsllY
united with Ilse 111 the county of Limerick "
Smyth said, he slid not come to argue the giansu, u,
and rskesl, " If you. Mr. Quin, are remuyed to the
• Upper House. will hot eapett Mr. fairody to vote

any metut,„ eau may recommend ?" lie said, I pissed at that meeting to the Petitioner and his
t o
a minute lainiv.
that wx, hi, i„t,..ittion, 01 this 4.4bovrrsii. friends, and they revolved that he should procure
was ode, which was acknowledged another interview with Mr.
Quin, and should state
11, owe% although \ Ir. Q,ai.l del tiot sign it. I t' him distinctly that the friersde of the Petitioner
Getithentl then adverted to the meet. did not cansieler that the conduct of Mr. Quin,
takentte, place at 'lr. C. Smyth.* Stooge. however uirkind or unfair they might bassi coo-
that haul
l-de orneth lies stated to the Douse the particulars., craved It to he, would aistliortse the Petitioner to
stioogly imirres-erl pus mind meet- call out Mr. i
..
d demand personal aatisfac-
C, the 22(1 of September, at his I se. He hon. Smyth went hack to Adare, on the Bth of
1, :4. illr delay of opeitme the door—the co. Ortober, and saw Mr. Quin, no third person being
ropei tiny the maid-servant, and other present. Smyth commenced by telling him, as he-
,err incidents that lor( !dare. Ile then stated fore mentioned, whet their opinion was as to the
mr, PIN
-keel him, h lie re. Petitioner's honourable upon lein, and he
• ,„,,; p
lhr lace. to „nu;..;; ? Mr. Smyth an. again ridded, that he hoped, after that declaratioti,
N,e, I terve net ; I del net expect you so Hurl after their willingness to give every putt-
, „Ile, hot se too are here now, oe will 410 it moue. betty to it that Mr. Quin pleased, lie would
'ios, ;" and that Nfr. quit replied, he was then a i then see the propriety of dieregarding any idle
ho ii
r,n., a, he ill the Lord Lieu- reports that might be circulated at Limerick
4,,,„„„t's 01.11.•nee; he " Proliapsyou have no upon this point, and that he would have no
„hketion to 'elite the conversation to the presence injection to do away with those condition*, and
et Mr. Gould ?" Mr. Swett) replied. "if my re- give him the 2004 e year, as originally proposed,
real of it is to dispense with reilueing it to writing, to he secured unshackled. Mr. C)nin to this re.
t elteeel her aviiiist it." \I r. Qom said, plied. that he saw no right Mr. Grady had to de-
lpriers
" o.llBllllv not." Mr. Smyth Oleo repented the :nand such terms from him. .4 Why," says he,
Mr. Quin and Mr. " should he be perfectly free, aud shackled ? Let
.i.eersa tit le in the in-esenee of
to the same mariner, he 'eye, that he gave it us both be free, or both ellackled ; let me be at
whence at the bar of the Heusi.. %Viten they liberty to take this 200/. a year from him whenever
.eielrew, Mr. Smyth wrote the minute, and en. 1 please, and he at liberty to vote as he pinnies ; or
111 a letter to Mr. Quin. Thet letter lied if I ent to be bound so long as am Cedes
i.„, ti„,, minced, and he (Sir Robert Wilson) Itutubrum to give it to him, let him be bound
este,' ,„,t what tlie contents of it were. Ile also to remain perfectly united with me."—He
v:Ottisis l'ay,srVet, Venture to say, that Mr. Smyth I further states, that Mr. Quin having asked him,
ties most set citons to have that dot:tomtit pro. why the Petitioner's father, who was so temperate
elletee At three o'ciock Mr. Quin went, aCcOni- in London, alinuld then appear so very indignant ?
riser Iby Mr. to Mr. Smyth's house. On To which Smyth replied, " Ile is indigoant, not
( .
• 111 h.: liandeit the minute to Mr. Sint th, l that you offer his son 2001. a year, but because you
see. 4 it us., perfrctly correct, but that there I couple that offer with conditions which he considers
vile rtlitruce in it which might be altered. I degraditig." Mr. Smyth use
delivered the letter
eta, that the Petitioner might be at written by Mr. T. Grady to Mr.Quiti, and told him
hie are et ere tine to relinquish the 2001. a year, lit
the same trine, that as he now taw t
his business
of its ii.terrst as he pleased ; the she. was likely to take an angry turn, head
1:011,e seas. s. t.l veisirate his political ititere,t from to Mr. Grady to request that in future lie would
dies fettle'," To this alteration Nlr. Smyth coe. not send his letters through) Smyth, as he wished
„Ara, and then Mr. Gould immediately said, I to have nothing further to say to this business;
lee it ri:eit tit apprise you that 1 have advised and he requested Mr. Quin, that he would answer
Quin tat to si4ii tluit paper ; for you tonet those letters through the ordinary channel of the
'per teat it contains eitturthing relating to the dim- post, and hot convey theist through Smyth, as he
red of the profits of all suffice c.sisisectesi with the had done • former letter. He took his leave of Mr.
rider; ostratioti or ju-tier, which I thiiik it right a i Quin, returned to Limerick, and stated what took
Mettler el Parliament should not sign ; but lam place to the Petitioner and les friends. He re•
et :any tittle to come forward and testify that turned to Dublin, and shortly after received a let.
Mr. use my presence acknowledwal it to he ter from a Mr. George Maunsell, stating, that he
...ateci." With that declaratton Mr. Smyth stated had seen a time from Mr. Quin to Mr. Daniel
he was Srti•fird. inimemately after this meet. Gebbett, which contained the following paro-
lee, Mr. Small% wrote to Mt. Thomas Grady, graphs :
the Petiernire. father, giving him an account of " Mr. Grady may vote as he pleases; sod Wise chooses to
rule iitgainst me, 1 wilt not, on that account, deprive him of
what took place. lie then stated, that havlng ih
the minute confined the arretigement respecting e Mr. , •
Carew Smyth having admitted, on the part or Mr.
the two bemired patinds a-year to Mr. Richard Grady and his friends, that I had nut made any promise, 1
Smith, and had mole no arrangement as to the , feel that ibis pruposjtiou cau be made compatible with my
rat Meld of the money in the event of Richard honour:*
smith,* death, lie wrote to el,. Gook' t„ „„„.„. He also states that several letters were subsequently
bet, that matter. Arid here he (Sir Robert Willem) writhed) by the elder Grady against the compromise
would esik any Gentlemen en that House, would altogether, because the compromise was illegal end
now man of cninimin acme—nut such a main as uncuirstitutional. When he was summoned to the
Mr. Gerrit! was, of a legal profession and of long r bar, and notwithstanding a revere and painful crow.
experien. e—hot would any snail of eulltleon under- i exuminution, he displayed that inflexible steadiness
eteirding endure, for a moment, to have a letter of that was trot to be shaken—he stood at the bar as
I:at descriptian addressed to him, without iestent. 1 if he Mood upon the rock of truth—Mear, hew,/
lv disclaiming any connexion .vitb the sub. I ;lid was not to be removed from the strength of his
minor), because it was the position of an honest
J cur ?—was it possible to suppose that such I)
• I. ,ter would have been addressed by Mr. I risen. who stood tearless and firm before them.
Smyth to Mr. Guild. :es to au alteration in r One fact alone would seem to militate against it—,
docitment, which Mr. Gould never read, and never lie meant a paragraph in r letter of Mr. Thomas
.34w ?—wee it credible that Mr. Smyth would have Grady the elder, of the 40th of October. To
iterreinced the word he obvious" in that letter, in Counteract the impreseiou that paragraph might
tee manlier that lie introduced it, if the subject make, he (Sir Robert Wilson) would appeal to
all the facts of the case, lie would appeal
ant familiar to the rated of the person ad.
rhess.d i And how did Mr. Gould treat thee letter ? a to the entire correspondence of Mr. Smyth.
Of all this he took no notice whatever—lie He might appeal to the evidence of letters then in
shies not disclaim it—he says, received your his hands, which had arrived from France but a few
n..lr, arid perfectly concur in the rtateuseut days since. These letters were written by Mr.
u made. Mr. W. Quin authorises me to Soieth on the 10th and the 15th of October, and on
iv, that emir recollection is perfectly accurate, several other days, to which the letter of the elder
reel of course there can remain now no kind of thrf. Grady of the loth of October was in reply ; these
fr erica on she subject." That letter fully authru. letters were accompanied by a note from Mr. Grady.
limes the statement ef Mr. Smyth, and Mr. Smyth Ile (Sir Robert) showed these letters to the Member
1.1 ,t sub-, ipient pnrt or has evidence states, that fur Oxford, the Member for Londonderry, end to
tile use of the word " obvious," because it several other Gentlemen in that House who had so
sort {.toper for a Alember of Parliament to laudably assisted in the present investigation. He
, 4 the ininitte; that he therefore addressed Mr. (Sir Robert) wished these Gentlemen to examine
eel as to the proposed alteration in it. Mr. I those letters, and, if they could, to point out any
inaccuracy in Mr. Smyth's staeement, told they in.
Strorn eieth suing after this received the irr table letter
ihe titioner. and he also received an ati.wer formed him that they saw tin cause fur the publi-
M• M. GriinYt senior, to his letter of the 41st of cation of iler.e letters. Ile (Sir Robert) (lid tint
Seideelher ; and it was, he %lid. much to be la. stand tip its that House to approve of Mr. Sinyth's
Itiel.trd that the letter of Mr. Grady, senior, de- I advice to Grady—it might in one respect deserve
hiverrd Iry Mr. Smyth to Me. Quin, at Adore, had unsure:; but surely there were circumstances
not heat produced ty the fl.iuse, for that letter that the severest censor would not altogether
would chiefly oinew the tlii eat of a Parinimentary condemn, there were circuruetances of great
Fir
tamed that sir Rebrit Wilson extenuation that must plead for him when he
w„tad brlxott
tile trai,,Hetion before the co„„iiien,„ sncriliced his &chug* to his judgment. On the
trop alive House. He (Sir Robert) had already • evidence of Mr. Gould, he would Day but little.
&chord, that of the enure tran+ection. he we, lie appeared before them labouring under severe
riltogether iguorairt until a few days before the ' illness, cud great agitation of tnind, and he certainly
Petitiou was put into his fends; hut he would htePeafed oir this subject with a total failure of
not say tiath the Petitioner and his Goiter might lecollection—e Hear, hear)—nay more, lie sp.
not bet.eve that upon such u subject they might • • peered nut merely to forget things that did hap.
honk for In' reroutes. Hot the matter was not • pen, but he appeared to remember incidents which
importme ; the House would Say the the pies. never del occur. He said lie was not Isresent at the
ter, was not, whether he (Sir It. lir any • meeting on the -22 d of September. how that fact
roller Mender would have called the conseterat ~,,, sterol it was not rieceesary now to say—but he
ie Perham-tit to the matter; the sue tens was, (Sir Ruben), without ineaniog toasty any thing die-
.' .1 the letki coutuiu u thrust of a Paiiratuentery trussing to the feelerigs of that witness, after
beflOos cuitsidenitinn, would riot hesitate to
rterept ol Grady's letter, Smyth proceeds to say that the House would best consult the justice
I...week—lle as rives there Sill the th of October, and dignity of their proceeding+, by rejecting the
lee as* Pieitioner and Mr. Mausisel. He u leatiniony of Mr. Gould sitotteteer. He would
.„t .‘deer tome Me.Quin; the particulars of that riot discuss the point now, as to the truth or the
ie. . I,oj he lots given in evidence. Ile statri, that error of his evitlence—wliether, if erroneous, it was
NI,. Qum what he meant by the, x present!, ailfully or inadvertently given. 'Chat was a secret
rt in, I'.:uiisnrr wits as free as air to roar as lie Immo) telly to the Great Being before whom truth
1,.. , I," toe ,use he, Smyth, conceived it was invent- appears so lovely, and eii,etiood so odious; but he
s •I. what MG Quin hail told him in Dublin. would call on the Howe to reject that testiumuy
.I, (jeer, ,e:11 lie paw no inronsietency whetsuever ; *lllicit, by the confession of the witness. appears
-arc tie tosmeoli," yo.ie recollect I told you = on many essential points to be so very erroneare,
11.• sr that hr Lined re'„iiiquisli thus whenever he and su very vague.
pler..eri, and movie: to her politieel interest from The next Wanes' examined. after Mr. Goold,
said sinyiii, if Mr, Quin, let was Mr. Itlaunwell ; he iti some particulars
4,• 4..11r rptmsii rack other. You say he is free as condone the intitenteul of Mr. Smyth. He outlier-,
it ; but should he exercise that fee.dosn, us out it ticates the letter written by him to that gentleman.
yew irdeolimi to &Kier him of the two hundred The next witness was Mr. Oablettt, the 'elicitor
s year?" To which Ire replied, "0, err- of Mr. Qum. He stated, that he went to Mr.
1:.111j Y.•a. Theis," siud hinyth, slow per- I Quill, to settle the dispute between him and Grady,
/tree there is an inconsistency." lie then surd, las a mutual friend, and that Mr. Quin neither ads
that feeling minions is, settle all difeeeences between 1 Milted not denied the rocs; that three was a pledge
the families, he pressed slpisli Mr. Qom the ! of political support enneard to the anon,/ pro.
uspcilteney of doing sway all couditiorie, but posed to be given to the Petitioner; and he *dolts
that Mr. Quist scrawl. Mr. Smyth stated what l the exprvsiou of Mr. Quin, that wbi!e he and