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mead Ind it etprestaly ra sumpitsete. ally sieetbnd
that the tweaking open the letters of Members *ss
a grate breach of the privileges of the House, a)le
i
could hotline no cue which could be exempi
this principle. If any thing were wanting to era.
Heise, them of the impropriety of allowing that
power in the Magistrates, the -Report on Ilehmter
gaol would furnish it. The House might there
see malty traditional reasons for not entraining the
intercourse between prisoners sad Member. of the
House.. They would find no reason to place con-
fideuce in the Magistrates, which could have the
effect of preventing prisoners flee seeking a redress
of arielsocer.
Mr. C. W. Weirs a•Maeleelleelltbere wM DR
breech of privileges or violationtif the law of the
land. The Act of Anne reffited to opening of
letters in the poet office. If it did not extend else-
where, then there was nothing illegal in the con-
dor* of the gaoler. As to the privileges of the
Howe, they referred solely to the delivery of letters
through the poet oMee. If they did net, why were
there no complaints before the establishment of the
past-office? There was a case grounded on the com-
plain of a Postmaster, that the Guenter of Hull
had sent for the mail-bag and °peeled the letters.
It happened just about the Revolution, when the
emote, was much convoked. He had forgotten
the wane of the officer, bet no punishment follow-
ed. Now as to the power of Magistrates to she
regulations under the statute for the government of
gaols, did the Howe consider what was the power of
the gaoler before the pooping of those Acts ? The
gaolers were at liberty to adopt all regulations they
themselves might deem proper for the good govern-
meat of the mimeo. The Judges themselves would
hardly be brought to interfere with their authority,
Auld would hardly rter sign au order for the ad.
Mission of the friends of the prisoners. Before
the Act of George I. a gaoler had the power of in-
solitary impenournent if thought necessary
by him for the government of the gaol. Among
the diaudvantages of suffering in unrestrained cor•
respondence might he named the opportunity which
alight be afforded of furnishing • prisoner with the
means of withdrawing himself from the eximetion
of justice. He saw muds dewier of ohm from
allowing the exemption of Members from the
operation of the general role.
Mr. BROUGHAM had beforeexpressed his opinion
strongly that the case was one of direct breach of
privilege, and he had announced his intention of
declaring that opinion mere fully whenever the ease
should come before the House. He was anxious
to follow the Right Hon. the Home Secretary, but he
wished to bear the opinion of the RigM Hon. and
Learned Gentleman who had just Mt down, who had,
while on their side of the Huse, as be (Mr. B.)
trusted that he still was en the ministerial side,
been a vigilant guardian of the privileges of
Parliament. He was more strengthened in has
opinion. He had beard all the learning and
iu-
genotty of the Right Hon. and Learned Geode-
man to prove that the privileges of the Hone had
not been broken is upon. He protested against
the doctrine that the test of their privileges was
the law vet up by Magistrates, or soy other body
of men. By that means they ought mks any oat-
rage legal, and the worst and most aliechsavans
fancies of the my worst A.agistrates be mode te
ride over the privileges of Pediment, merely
because the Magistrates neglected to make a It•
serration is their low. If the House were to
have privilege., the sound coustimetion would
be. that of themselves they contained an express
power not to be divested but by the House.
Their privileges might be limited or pput
aeide, or altogether resigned; bat while they
canted they should be held to stand together wit
the law *hese there was room for them to stand.
If any other doctrine were admitted, there was au
one thing, however gross and wicked—there wip
nothing which the mind of a Magistrate could in-
vein, which. auctioned by the Judges, might not
do sway with the privileges of Parliament. He
mimed on the owes and precedents cited at
considerable !toga...sod contended that the dan-
ger of abuse was no argument against the use
of their privileges. or they could enjoy none at al'.
That which was mom essential to then proceedings,
the freedom from personal arrest. was capable at*
violent abuse, as had been evinced in the case of u
Member of the last Parliament, who had contracted
debts which he resolved not to pay, and having
made s fraudulent conveyance of his Wats end
effects to unknown Interns actually caused the
imprisonment of many of his indigent creditors for
debts which might love been with ease liquidated
by the money doe from hits.
Mr. WILSON (of Cockermnuth) supported the
amendment, and cited law authoring* to thew the
power of Magistrates in regulating the diaciplioe
and management of gaols. He pointed est the
danger of subornation of perjury bring solicited by
persons about to undergo Mal, if their currespon-
aletoce were not subject to isupection.

The Marquis of lAlrpo>tDguT aid, he *mold
not detain the House with many observstione on
this subject, but as shortly as he could state his
rewards fur differiog in opinion with the Honours.
his Gentleman opposite. The case before the
House resolved itself into two qoestirtos—a roes.
fist) of law, and a question of privilege of Par-
liament. .As far a* the qoestioa of law was coo.
cerned, if any offence had been committed, if
either the lionoorable Member, or the person who
wrote the letter in question, conceived that they had
sustained any legal wrong. he apprehended that no
decision to which that House could come could
have the effect of depriving either the Hun. Mew
ber, or any other party ►u►taining the grievance, at
his remedy by regular course of law, and therefore
no prejudice would be done to the cause of justice
by the forbearance of the House to secede to the
proposition of the Hen. Member. lint the Hera.
Member would forgive him if he declined thisking
that the law was *kb his la We ear, er tbst die law was
set ssierisat N aim the plieileses of the Hasse. All that
be hod heard et the law es she subject raised a pressispllee
is his Isis/ that the regulations Oahe prises were follyja4-
11Sed aid hem 004 ►y the spirit as sell as the leiter of the
law. He new game is the just on if privilege, whieh he
epp►ehesded was the propre psis& ter ohs Hem to Mob at.
He was by as loess* prepared so say teat Ike privilege et
Parliament should be se Cre esteoded, se ibaa all primers
is gaol, for every deseriptios of mime whatever, @Weld
have as sarestrollod eight to address lettere to soy Member
O Parnesiest widiest their being subjected to impedes,
sail that say Member O Parliassest should have a right to
address letters to say primer without their being liable So
. be ',raid. The lies. sad lainoed Gt oilman bad sated

shy the Pest-odic@ Ilvd serer fleecier of (seri:44l soy sock
control; but the cues were totally dal % rest. At the Kw.
elle* the olgoittere and boad.writio. of every 111 kink" a
Parliament was knows • hot If the duetriee lowa eaai,,,,d,,i
fur vine atlinitted, where meld saw gaoler be fumed eh..
said take or himself the responsibility of °peeing say let.
terAggias the Name of a Heather of harnesses. out the bark
of it! and it was a Ifirotivit fee their e•osidtvotioe whether
ell the gaolers le the kiNgdent should be forced into the
aiteatioe of deelitineg to epee soy loiter whatever paapias hi,
er-fritei lie priaaisews in shale saatody, ander the appolbsagoa
of viulatiag the priwileopesa Pastimes,. Me blew se we.
we why, is the rote of say bona fide grieweace. each a awah.
r with Menthe,' of Parliament should be carried en m if,.
not pretend, however, to restrict the right ao eg„,,l,
as to say that all lottery to or frees • Member of Paella.
stoat, sods parses la custody, alight is all eases be tiptoed I
bet he did net think that the privilege should he pushed en
as to ride over every principle on which the custody of pri.
sorters was heeded. Great public Imachief, be wow ~,
great public dottier, would be likely to Hive from the eau.
limited esereier of seek a privilege.
Mr. DENMAN said, if do poses, ease inertly issulod 4
question of law, esdosiewilly Ms Hos. Friend had his legil re,
Needy; bat et the oasts floe that the Noble Herons pat fur.
'grals. geeatiea of law is this case, be (11r. U.) wished he
bad alntedf hew his Hes. !Heed use to try the spokes. k
was eertaisly a tpiew tea of privilege, the Noble Marquis said if
Uwe was a Mud VW* pioneer, there ought rut to be a
secret eocrespeadesee. Not he (Mr. 1)) troald say that
.beis these mis a howl Ads sriovaace the cusmoinratwa
meet be snootily private, sod that weeessity wee sisuagly
illustrates' by the ease which bud so often bees trader disco-
id*. is that Hose, of that mood horrible hostile the law of
Ikhester.—(Chreta; ).-Whew-ter a coorplaiot wassail* la
that caso,tbecoodatt of the gaoler bad always hem dahadad
sod Judas' so the glowed that he did bo more Asa
bin slaty, sad select up to the law, in enetnetahig t• the tuba
of the prises, which were Biped by two Judges; main no
ever lauded se a wild wad Oman. uses -.(Hear, liear.)...,
Whew, however an impair, was iumaileted, it was foood dot
be had traMiplid epos all law, that he violated every tab,
and bid vital deduce to the orders of the Magistrates tad hi
the dieter,. of justice sad betaaaity.-.(Heer, boy, Iwo).-
Nem bad a ease been proved sshicb store justly sueited the
ladigestles of the House sad of the caustry,—(Cheen.}..
How meld that ease ever bore been brought to bed, but
by a omnipotence *et wader the eye of the gaoler? The
&torte* of the Noble Marquis would make she iodividwal
complaleed of Ilse ledge in the first iniesece, whishet ihr
eonnplolat were well or ill founded, and retold give hie the
stelae
power to protect lf from asp ill ciiiipeepseoree by throw-
ing the erisaioa thseoneat into the fire.—(llear, Ow.)
—The late Sir l Roesler hod gives a &tido
opinion that the pleflege of ParDunseat was not bib, lab.,,
by any aisle want f Wills rule of the prises ewe ta bees.
reviled without ' it would be unpowible that asy
effective logeng fete place into the alined ail pi.
WO
whatever.
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Mr. Vl'l LION esphdeied.
Mr. C. BATMURST spoke agaiast tLe statics. .
Mr. JAMES replied.

At.., tbe.H•011111 divided—
For Ilia *Airiest Malioa . .
ligairiat it
Majority 'pipet die Molioo
COMMITTEES OF WAYS AND MIAMI.
Os ger mere so the irs Iles y us fared t►s Moan is
Commit so Ways sod Mesas.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCH EQUEI said, hied
to all the attention of the Committee to • heiseactioe of
that omen which lad aleays called teeth the highest ps•
melee*, and had ever beta jessly considered se she most
solid mil eniumeatiet proof of the flourishing cooditioo of
the eale mesas the redaciion of a polies of so
AM, Male by paying off or placing it yowler terobis wadi-
lion epee • lower seal. of isten4l. le the yew 170, 111 r.
PB.llllll, then Clenaerl!oe of the Exchequer, peep,. d
=
t to lower the rate of interest of ali abetted the. eat
at the rote of loin per coat. Tie gamest
'Of tie meek which he his brought leader the eneldrrative
of
PorliameM was fifty *twee milli** peeled% a wee at that
time of eiterenee amount, and geese doubts wen ewer.
hissed of the senoras of she undertaking. Mr. Pelham,
bogretee, was timid. t, turd brought forward he. pls., shirts
.ellintately received the sanciin of P.rliameas. The
plea proposed hy Mr. Pelham w.a this, that ell the Wells
of such' 4 per coal Mock who should vulvas epithet thee
swathe, turenastieg me der 18th February, 1749, their wit-
hering so accept the reduced rate rate of 3 per min. joie.
net on lb* eammet of their stock, to Cummetstg Cr... the
tith Mutembee, 1757, alsould be pad their disdain's .14
per seee..antil tbeh December, 1750, and 31 per est. per
anew. afterwards Gatti 115th Member 1747, sod themel
stock our to be declared irredeemable till after she hint ma..
hosed period. The best sebseintion dad not taceril
37,001800/, owns, lea great nteasere, to the lame stock•
bolder. being arrayed in opposition to the pas, and
added by the petilieed Opposition of that day. lie
Masted, however. Mat the Ge ettemer upproite weld din
a noble contrast ice their evaded, and that he Aosta
phllve the beset( of their support in • meager, se kiedy
beneficial to the public interest. Sir Jobu eallik./ orie-
-1 Mated • pemplakt se the subjectf' which produced a
powerial effect use public °Pone, aced broocht corer near
who bee hese hostile to lie plau. And afterwards a orc.od
=ism was opened us terms less f hie to the
edema, and more advantageous I. the Fabric,
"11.4000freet. were esbecribesl ,• leaviug a reword/I
50011:0001. to he paid ae. He would sow premeed to stile
she Penitence of tee measure which he was inset to sobsel
N the Hasse, whereby an leimehaie rellerstoe'd be pined is
the public of 1,150,000/, s.d by following tire same none
wish the Irish S per nate. a further as., making together
1,230,0e08. The stock proposed to be reduced comided
of, Arm, the Navy IS per cents. which was foretell erigisally
by the headier of a geniality of Navy bills, unprovWeel hr
at the red of the American War in 1784 ; and the mud
iummat mow staining was 141,000,400/ There • es the *hid
c idled the Irish five per cents., plaids to Esgamd
which amounted to 1,400,0001, which it was popeet
to reduce ea the MIN teems as the Navy lee per ere".—
Besides there there teals° soother fused, retailer ea seemst,
calk d tie Loyalty fee pee crate. which wee formed is 1717,
smoke special 'auditions, with respect to the redemptive,
of which about 1,000,0401. lemeined. The mania
would not Mood to this heel, se there wee a eneeditise gist
they were wt to be oedema! until three yeses efterne
Navy Ave per emits. is order to inn the holders se new"
Lenity to transfer tick capital to the t nee per mdse IV
sesamer is abide be reposed so make the reelevioa was
this: that he every 10ef. of Ave per eat. Mork, Me
holder should receive 1001. of a sew stuck, wiih a divined
all per seat. snowily, rayable it July sad Jaaassy. 7a,
&ebbed hs the Irish b per cents. beiag at motet mud",
in April and Oeleftet, it was proposed that she holds re, •
naive a quarter's dividead ice July, mid that they shea''
thenceforward come soder the same regolatiesse as the Not
I per genie, so that after July the beldam will retries dot
dividoode at the tate of 4 per crest., weds the &Noise 'IS
permit. teethe capital, which will give them fuer sbilleea
• year. This sensate will give a relief to dee cosmos or de
1111101114 i a 1,140,0008. The House 'wild remember heat se
that they bad a right to hen the stockluiWer to take hitt
wee the vassal of bis, stock in ready meety--(Maz)—"g
that they bed no right to compel bins to .crept soy
mistatin of meek, which could oily be effected by a erre
dittos with the parties.—(Heardsear.)—lt was dear, trete
Aire, thaw their parts it mast be • voluntary transetios--
(Hear, hear, hear.)—Considering, Weever, the Meer
gages which this sekome offered to she holder., it elope•!
manual& le expect I bet by far the greater part see'
agree to the ;empanel; and as far as he had Ins
stets
learn, the probability was dial bet a rely her *odd bold
oet. It was oeeemary, however, that the Aramatias•
should .be mempletely ordeitered, and asitered, coosisint
every glriatiple of pehlic faith as piewiliar, givisi !ar
time sad proper oppertisaity to the pollees fie ceirsideranes.
Hs came now to unties ten ;mists of gatemen Oa the pia•
new reposed Amu that of Mr. Pelham. le point et faith
sail Palaciple AI/ 110. the same—la the asrairgemest t
wtheereceedifeee:ds.aritabegresieereuster extension
itse
couriotuisheirirsoifte.oremes....
slams Mr. .15 time, rendered it mon &Alcoa tower
tale the as it disseet of the bolder. s hoe Sty resided re