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heard a speech which indicated more deliberation than that which
had then been delivered by the Hon. and Learned Member ; it was
quite a prepared speech. (A laugh.) The petition he took
for granted had been kept by him for a long time, waiting for the
present occasion. He then adverted to the strictures pronounced
on the decision of the House of Lords, and appealed to the House,
whether it was good taste in the Hon. Member to animadvert upon
the decision of the other House. or generous in him to attack an
absent person (the Lord Chancellor), whom he was continually is
the habit of assailing.
Mr. S. R ICE rose to correct the lion. Baronet's statement as to the
petition. That petition he had handed to his lion. and Learned
Friend within five or ten minutes of the time at which he rose to
present it, and he would then leave the House to judge of the tle-
dree of attention due to the other statements and inferences of the
!Lon. But., when they saw on what a slender foundation this
rested. He could not sit down without thanking the Hon. Bart.
for the handsome terms in which he spoke of the people of Ireland ;
they deserved no less ; but he could not help noticing the exttaor-
dinary inconsistency of his thus thinking so favourably of the Irish.
and at the same time holding the opinions which be did respecting
the Catholic Question. They were loyal and yet were not to be
trusted—they were peaceable and yet not to be relied on. If what
the lion. Bart. had said were good for any thing, it went to this,
that they should be placed on a footing of perfect equality with
their Protestant fellow-subjects. It had been said that they were
not at liberty to take any notice of what passed in the other House of
Parliament; but lie entirely dissented from that doctrine. Had
they not the votes of that oilier !louse? sad could they not thence
learn the nature of its proceedings, and if the censures passed upon
the decision of that House had been even still severer, it would
have been no more than justice and fair retaliation, for nothing
could have been more bitterly personal than the animadversions of
certain Members of the Upper House upon these of the Lower. His
Hon. and Learned Friend, with theierful eloquence so pecu-
liarly his own, had cautioned the Legislature against pressing
huipan nature too far. As to his own individual sentiments on the
occasion, he would say that all his strongest feelings were most
closely connected with Ireland ; still he wished that he could (con.
sistently with duties he felt bound to perform) bid adieu for ever to
that country, and eraae Irwin his memory the recollection of its
wrongs. If such were his feelings as a Protestant, what.must be the
emotions of the Roman Catholics at this present crisis ? To break
off for ever all connection would be, he declared, a great relief to
his mind—were it not that he had duties to perform front which he
would not shrink. This sentiment was not peculiar to himself ;he
knew that he shared i; with many others ; and he had no difficulty
in saying that the consequences of it would be, that these who were
capable of administering the laws in that country, and filling the
place of country gentle men, would quit it altogether, and leave the
Government without the means of ever advancing the interests or
promoting the prosperity of Ireland.
A Member, whose name we could not learn, made a few observa-
tions, after which the petition was brought up.
Mr. BROUGHAM then said that the Honourable Member for
Samersetshire (Sir 'l'. Lethbridge) had been sufficiently answered
by his Honourable Friend the Member for Limerick (Mr. S. Rice)
in all that related to their right to notice the proceedings of the
other House. The Members of the House of Commons had as
much right to animadvert upon what took place in the Lords, as
they could possibly have to censure the proceedings of the Com-
mon', more csmaially when it was sanctioned by Peers high in
dignity, and by one too who, from his particular office, ought to be
the last to commit himself as the patron of irregularity. They
should not be so squeamish about permitting reflections of this
kind to be made, when it was recollected that the Commons as a
House had been treated most cavalierly. It had been, forsooth.
alleged that he had no right to call .n question, as it was termed,
the proceedings of the other House. Now, so far front assenting to
that doctrine, he maintained that it was his privilege to canvass
every thing done by the other branch of the Legislature, as well as
by the Ministers of tie Crown. As to its being objected to him
that he wailed the absent, he would reply, that among the sins of
omission of which he might be convicted, that of letting slip an
opportunity of telling his opinion of the Peers to their faces fully,
frankly, and decidedly, was what lie never could with truth be
accused of. What he thought of them he always told them fairly ;
and as they thought hint honest and sincere in the expression of his
sentiments, and as they perhaps felt the justice of what he said,
they were kind enough to listen with patience. lie had never said
half as much in their absence as he had often declared openly in
their presence. He had been charged with attacking the Lord
Chancellor. Ile would not say whether he attacked him or not,
but he would claim the right to censure any Minister, or any Peer.
lie did it in that House, because that was his proper place for do;ng
it. The Honourable Baronet must now be aware that he had fallen
into the grossest blunder in objecting to a notice of the conduct of
an absent member of administration; really it was impossible for
absurdity to go further. Surely it was impossible for him (Mr.
Brougham) to have discharged his duty in any other manner. It
was in the Lower House alone that he could du it, fur the alleged
object of his censure was in the Upper Hnuse, and he (dlr.
Brougham) was not. If lie had declined on that occasion to cen-
sure the absent, he himself would have been absent front his duty.
Mr. Secretary PEEL did not hear one entire sentence of the
speech of the' Honourable and Learned Gentleman to which the
Honourable Baronet had alluded, but front what had been dropped
respecting it, he cpncluded that it must have contained something
to interfere with the good humour that seemed to pervade his latter
observations. Upon the whole, he could not say that he was sorry
for having been absent at the time the Honourable and Learned
Gentleman spoke, for he should have felt extremely unwilling to
be placed under the necessity of saying any thing that would have
the Area of aggravating the disappointment naturally felt by the
Roman Catholics, or of making a..y allusion to the triumph of
that cause in which he felt so much interest. Ile would now only
add, that if any of those with whom he was associated in the
government of the country, or to whom he was bound by obliga-
tion or by friendship, had been assailed, he most assuredly would
have felt it his duty to vindicate such friend, but as be had not
heard the speech of the Honourable and Learned Gentleman, it was
impossible for him to reply.
Mr. BROUGHAM briefly explained.
After a few words fronrSir J. NEWPORT, the petition was
ordered to lie on the Table.
Mr. BROUGH AM postponed his notice relative to the inde-
pendence of Judges, but to what day was not precisely under-
stood.
Mr. DENMAN rose to express his regret that he had not
been present the preceding evening when the subject of tithes in
the City of London was under the consideration of the House. lie
then wished to say that his opinion on the subject remained un-
changed.
IRISH MANUFACTORY BILL.

Mr. G. DAWSON presented a petition from the inhabitants of
Londonderry. in Ireland, in favour of the Bill for the establishment
and encouragement of manufactures in Ireland.—Laid on the

CEYLON—SIR JAMES CAMPBELL.
Mr. HUME moved that an humble address be presented to his
Majesty, praying that he would be graciously please.l to order to
be laid on the table of the I louse, a copy of the proclamation issued
by Sir James Campbell, Governor of Ceylon, on the 10th of Jan.
1824, for the purpose of removing all doubts on the subject of ar-
resting persons on the island. Also, copies of the judgment of the
Supreme Court of Colombo, of the lath January, in the case of
John Daniel Bossier, and of the correspondence upon that subject
that passed between the local Government and the Colonial Office
in En land.
Mr.-W. HORTON said it was not his intention to oppose the
production of the papers required. He merely wished to observe
that the individual in question, had been detained as a deserter
under the proclamation of the Governor, and the operation of mar-
tial law. _ _

After an observation from Mr. TR ANT, end Mr. HUME,
The motion was agreed in.
COURCII RATES (IRELAND) BILL.
Sir J. NEWPORT moved the second reading of the Irish
ChJrch Rates Bill. . . _ .

Mr. DAB SON thought cone of the provisions in the Bill
might admit of amendment in Committee, but was not disposed to
offer any objection to the principle of the measure.
The Bill was then read a second time, and ordered to be com-
mitted to-morrow (this day).
The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and the House
adjourned to THURSDAY (this day.)