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London, England, 1821-12-15 00:00:00

SILVER TANKARD AND HOGSHEAD OF CIDER

TO
JOSEPH CHUM E. ESQ. M.P.

•T HEREFORD.

(Mr. Mute's :pack concluded front our Pope of
rtslorday.)

Although himself (Mr. Hume) of 'moderate fortune, it was
sufficient for his purpose, as he regulated his expenditure by
his income, sod be thought it was not eoreseunable in him
to request from the Ministers the same list of conduct
fur the maims which he adopted for himself. He had
considered the virtue of every sea in danger who al-
lowed hisextrevagaspee to bring hint in debt; sad he had
often shimmed the degradation and ikbaseinent of such see
by these metes, who, if out of debt and independent, would
have startled at acts which their necessities compelled them
to. He therefore mesidered excess of expeoditure as the high
read to ruin and degradstion, whether in a private gentle-
ness or in a nation; lied that reireocheseet sad troeuemy
were the best sad only honourable means to relieve society
Cr.. the effect of wasteful profusion. There was • time
when G•glaad was happy and doerishiog, sheet the artisan
and labourer enjoyed to comparative comfort the entailer of
his isedestry, ad whilst their greet neele's and noble ex-
'miens during • long war entitled them to as addition to
these means of eajoyment, it sorely must he misgovernment
aloes that can deprive them of these blessings. It was
inisgoveromeut which, by excessive taxation, took from the
people their property to lavish on • few inslivideels who
were in power and ogle,. It was a must lamentable fact
that the suffering people had their earnings takes from them
to support that very system which was grinding them to the
dust, and levelling all classes in metal distress-••his task
had been to expose the causes, to et I the exinoragsace
of every department, and lay them ►efore the House of
Commons, and through it to the nation, in all their motive
hideousness. It was matter of gratiicatim that the exer-
times of OD bumble an iedieldeal had bees sefficieot to call
the ails ties of Porlianseet to en Important • eabjeet ; sod
the reselt• emist depend on the part the people will take to
enforce the recommendations ►e had offered. Mach indus-
try had bees used ►y the venal press to vilify his modem
and to misrepresent in calumnious language the motives:
but he had too much respect for the press—too high an opi-
aim sr the baselits to good government b'y t►e perfect free-
dem of the press, to attempt in any way to restrain it : his
conduct as • public man was fairly before them; and he
trusted to troth becoming triumphant against injustice
sod falsehood: he did not fear the result to his own
character or to the public intmests ; but as be understood
there were some persons in this moiety w►o had misearier.
shred his conduct, it was due to those Gentlemen who hod
presented him with the gifts of this day, and done him
the high honour of his public reception, to explain to them
shortly the coarse be tout. Instead of briegi mg forward masses
of figures misty and confused, be had submitted a variety of
statements of the comparative expenses of the Goverameot,
to explain and simplify the accounts, which carried convie-
tion to the plainest understaodiegs ; and ►avieg remained
mcontradicied in the House of Commons, those who heard
him might new receive them as correct. If in 1792, a lime of
peace, Eaglead was happy and contested, he thought it fair
to compare that year's expendi tare and income with this year,
and to account as well for the difference of the expenditure as
fur the etreichednese which now covered the laud like • pes-
tileoce. In that year, the prices of the rester part of the
prorluceorthe country were nearly the assess they are in this
year, and as far as the necessaries of life are requisite for hap-
pities., they areas abuudast in the country now Li in 1792.
To beheld a starving peasantry in • land %aplenty, sod com-
plaining formers with their granaries full, can only arise
from misrule. The situation of the cumetry, either ae in-
ternal quiet ur external protection, he considered at the
present time to require nu further military establishment
or any greater Cied List than in 1792. But, alas ! how dif-
ferent were the facts. In 1792, the total taxation of the
country was 16 or 17 millions. In 1820, 55 or 56 millions,
exclusive of •3 millions paid to the collectors and receivers,
dm.; a goodly sour to be lly expended iii support of
the influence of the Ministers, and it afforded nice pickings
fur thousand of hungry and dependant tax-gatherers. The
system of misrule could not go on as it now did against the
public opiuiou, unless means were employed to bribe end
corrupt its supporters. It was the imperious duty of the
Parliament to reduce the mites of influence, and slim that
of the army, navy, colonies, Ike. &c., which Isere all drains
on the industry of the people. He did net make these
charger lightly, or ins • general Newer, but be had pointed
oat, department after department, and item after item, until
ee•victtun had oveltaken even the Ministers, and compelled
theist to join in ■n address to the Crown, on the 27th of
June last, at the close of the Session, to reduce the ex-
penditure of the musky. The Marquis uf Load's's-
derry had charged Wine (Mr. Hume) with attempt.
lug by harlequin leap, what was superhuman in re-
trenchment; but he world appeal to those who heard him as
to the justice and practicability of his proposals. In the army,
in 1792, for example, the number of regular troops were
53,000, sad of irregular 33,000, snaking • total of 86,000 for
the service of that year, fur Great Britain, Ireland, and all
our culumies alleged. In June, 1821, we had 101,000 regular
troops, and 162,000 of irregular, making a total of 263,000
men in arms, or seedy to take arms uu the shortest notice!!
He would ask what necessity there could be for such an
enormous army art the 6th year of peace, to drain the re-
sources of the country ? Can 177,000 soldiers more in 1821
than in 1792 be necessary ? This was sae of the greatest
►ourre. ofexpeese, the most useless, and the most dangerous
to the Couslitutiou in every way. Oar Constitutions was
essentially a civil oar, nod in former times the laws were
ted tinder the civil Magistrates, sod the interference
of the military was unknown. Of late years, the mi-
litary were called in even to attack and destroy their
'warmed sad Nouffeerding rellow-citimes We were in
danger of becumiug a military in►tad of remaining •
civil Govermseto; and he thought, therefore, that the earn-
mons military estahliabuteet ought to be redeems', both fur
the sake of remote, and for the prosectios of that cosi-
eritutioo which the Revolution •f 1888 give to t►is coun-
try. The expense of the army in Great Beitsin in 1792
IVY 2,300,0001.; i■ 1821 it was 8,900,000 I! They were

utopia* at this very rest difference% bet wheel he
Mould point est to them one or tiro Ithas is iMi
ammo.. as an example, their surprise squid cease. la 1191
the Staff of able army was 23,000.1 in Illy it is 07341110112,
War 110,6001. bare this year than in (702. A toast
that be weaken. at when Ministers Oki* the Dike of 'NAN
as Commander-in-adef, to exposit fee trip 011. PIM
he ill.
a dap; sod for t sstaffat hearfiar nree 'rely Ifso
Me It is monstrous. Is the smite 'swifter, althreffit
there are 10,000 officers ee halt pi', the Misietzeitrte
the sake of patrunsee, are by every Gam k Gamete in
yews' moo late the army, thereby deity 'What pessions re
the public charge already overloaded. Siete the Ist of As
wary, 1816, there have been 2,856 promotieel in the re-
gular array, 4 which oumber only 303 have bees liwolight
from Itaff-ps) ! If the 2,553 promotions bad bean die&
freer the half pay list, the ma of 114,0001. a yeaelp ea.
auk*, or t,b66,0011/. at tare*, years' parakeet. errata MA
Iwo saved to the country, sad that Oohs, of rod
meritorious officers brought fremi idiewees to sot .
Is the same mariner tie country is new Madded r•
racks, at an warmer of seversl hundred thensaied
usually; wires, in 17112, 49,0001. was sot a la
the same .Mae ho 'NNW est MP ervervi.
mainpfire that Ma wpm* et the -en 10.4011 M 4
under 1,000,0001., acid now about 6,500,0001. The diatb-paral
establishments is 1792 met 25,0001. they now cost 100,11.10/.
In 1791 we had four hundred ship. of war, and this jeer ones
hundred ships, being Dearly twice the number of Mips of war
the whole world have; and, if they were disposed, more then
they could hring against as; sod yet we are bond* and re-
leriidieg more ships, at an el:pease of 1,100,0001. sterling •
year. We me paying orient hundred thousands of periods
a yeer for timber from the Adriatic, whilst there it plenty at
how. The works in the dockyards, abroad and at boar,
many of than araeamary, will account fur the wow of
4.500,0001. is the expense of the eery, &c. The ordeaace
was, perhaps, the most extravagant of all the demimoe de.
it cost, is 1192,446,00 a. and is 1821. 1,400,0001.-2 i times
iscrease. He bad completely laid bare this department is
every part ; he bad slows, that in the borough of %areas'.
rough there were 190 frames who were receiving is pay read
allowasees 15,000/. frees the public, many of thine useless
and uncalled for. He thought 'hie as gloomy a case of corl
rapt ialliseoce as was ever brought before Parliament; cud
yet Parliament refused to do soy thing to correct it. Not to
delay them loager with details, he would state the total san-
perative esparto of the Army, Navy, and Ordoasee Depart-
ments, tire three great arms of military deferrer, at two pee
riods. la 1793 the charge was 4.760,000/. He would request
every marl to rossider the slate of the country abroad and at
home in 1791, suet at the present lime. The total charge
is 1791, the time of the French Revolution, which threat-
eared to spread to oeighbieming cooetries, was wily about
4.500,000/4 and let them guars what, ceder the Kestrel
distress prevailing in the commie', the charge might to be.
It would be impossible they could guess 16,700,000/. was
the expense by the estimates of this year; but it was a
fact, a most melancholy fact, that the charge in 1641 was
11,050,000/. more than the charge is 1702 for the same three
departments. He admitla el that such statements as these
were soffirient to surprise every thinkieg man, and to urge
him to adopt measures to lessen the existing evils by pro-
moting economy aad retrenchment. The expeoses of col-
lecting the ream** he had stated at 4,150,000/., and Ire
was esafident thiit the propositiuu of the member for Airing,
don (Mr. Maberly)ta reduce oisamirth of that sum, might
with propriety be effected. As an example of the sairiag that
might be made ia the collection of the reverie', he (Mr.
Hume) bad got a Committee to inquire luau the duly and al.
betimes of the sixty-firs Receivers General; and although
the majority of the Committee were (1110111141.... afiniatereg
they unanimously reeesaineaded to abolish these oillees as
sinecure omens; and if the recoansseudatioa of the Com-
mittee be atteued to, about 75,0001. will be saved to the
public out of 118,0001. There were also 95 distribetors of
stamps, holding sinecure offices, at an repeat of awe than
95,0001 lly to the public—a charge three times greater
than was earessery—a charge kuown to be caressive sod
extrairagast ; wad yet the Ministers have nut, although they
have beer pointed out fur three successive years, reduced
them. Is nut that a pretty clear pried that the Goverosseat
do at Maturely wish to retrench, whatever they may pre.
re tend to the nation ? It is, thereso, for the suffering peo-
ple, through their Representative., if they are able, to compel
reriamins. It is not the paltry eduction" of junior clerks
marry of them scarcely sow sufficiently paid, that will satisfy
the public, bet it is an efficieet reductiou of every pared
that cam be spared—es approximation to the expresser 1792,
beginning with the Ktng, and going through every de-
partners'e to the private soldier. Is it jest, fur rammer,
that the charges foe the Civi List, the civil charges on
the Coosolidated Food, arid miscellaneous services, 'Wald
have been 4,165,0001. in 1010, and only 1,130p0t. for
the same heads in 179.2 ? The expenses of the calmer@
1144 exceeded 3,000,0001. to Great Britain, which was over
and above She revels's', of these eoloaies. This be consider.
al almost an moire loss Is' the ceustry, and much of that ruin
was squandered away to pay useless offices and exhorbitant
salaries. The new colonies were refused civil governments,
which might provide for the expeneu and defence of those
islands, and the whole of the revenues was at the disposal of
else military Goveruors, under my Lord Bathurst: the conse-
quences were, great dissatisfaction there, and great exam
here. Such a man as Sir Thomas Maitland (whose modal,
if correctly reported, against the Greeks now struggling fur
their freedom, he considered as a reproach to the character
of a Briton and • Christian!, was iu the receipt of sear
15,0001. a year. The Lord lieutenant of a neighbouring
comity had his brother tin • salary of 10,0001. at the Cape of
Good Hope, with • variety of other advantages Cr bis
relations, tee. In 1796, the allowance to Sir Jobe Craig,
as Goverour of the Cape, war only 1,1171. $ year; the
Governor's 'edify was for a number of years 4,000/. and now
it was 10,0001. a year. This was an example of profusion.
Its ibis mumer are the taxes of the people squandered away.
To clout observations oa that subject, he (Mr. H.) sie June 47,
submitted a motion to the House of Commons, far tearaway
and retrenchment, and pointed out the sum of 4,500,0001. as
the aggregate •muunt of the nee 00000 y redactions in time
expenditure of the country; and the Ministers reluctantly
emseurred in the praporitioa for reductiu• when made by one
of
their owe fiteeds. From the experience of past years he
distrusted their isitentions, unless the people in every part
of the country took up the subject as it deserved. We had
sees on the elb of June, 1819, when three million+ of
sew laxea were must unjustly laid on the people, that
the Chancellor of the Exchequer moved in the House
of Commons a similar resolution of economy; but al.
though he (Mr. Hume) had also on the 12th of June,
IMO, made a sootier w the same effect, not a pound bad
been reduced, or any revision of establishments bees made,
except in the Commas, where mate inquiry bad tubes place,
up
to the termination of the last Session. Whilst the
House of Commons was constituted as at present, he
was satisfied that any relief would be but trilling and tem-
porary. The represestatives were sefortauately guided too
muck, he feared, by views of aggrandisement to themselves
and families, by supporting the measures of the Ministers,
to act as an honest House of COWMAN ought to do. The
experience of way years past had proved that aelOsh and
interested views had too uftea led them aside from that
path of public duty which the welfare of the people
quired them as representatives of the people to follow : there
was not that tVllow-feeliog and sympathy between the people
mid their representatives—sot that community of intermit
which ought to exist, and which the Revolution of NU gave
to this nation. That cuomitistioe was strictly representa-
tive with that devalue of Parliament which gave a check
and control to the people over the eueduct of those she were
arbiters of their liberty and property, by the laws they might
enact, sad the expenditure they might easictitto. It was the
departure from that constitution that bad beimobiltse rheas-
trees we now suffered, which lead tolerated tie at
the Goveriment of late years, so injurious, is Is *sign, to

the heat right. sad interests of the people. airmail", sod
misrule pet waded army arpottosete; etprOditare sod mills-
sivellatition were the immedeillo ClMMlrgasesees of moth a
aymmil ; but that albs emweemetatioli of the people woe 111
real lied radft/ Ogee of all new mforing.; it was 1/8, ea
the system this the mss we ought NI hires% awl it was s',e
erteui we while to thew. The mot pnlar star So 1444,1
we
to air tow.% the abject to which he nicht N dire,i
oar steady nod imeenittiwg effort% was Retard in Partial
meat'.M • paltry tries( refon% bet ow that *mai gave
as effetinal emend Settle pesitte seer the etpertaitore of
mime; for if that were treated, sad the aseashere Mr to
the metre fif their hawse sod dieistwetad judgment, the
welfaie of the people Mum he their object; mid the awful. •
Miura of that comfort sad satittictian tibia* bate esei4ed
to this coontry, add of winch this people are pordgalsety
deierviag7 The outs poem of the Crows. of 81.g.ilsetl'i
and the Goverallest, could sot deetragilmireigised vic-
tim, whew the woke of the omits* was ralorMigalene them.
Mt therefore reeiolommeled the stow immisoity sad seed ter
Partinoteutary *Amok, sad elicit'. atom aimed their
esertiom. Mr. Home then mfureed the vital impieties..e
if as ofettual retools I. Parlielosest ; and that I. the
pretest Hata or Mciety he would with to me orrery Imre,-
IMdrr to the mammy ham eel% sad the doralim of Por-
t ". sr iliorditiniewmPsmiiiiMg Mr Pepin-
dieter. couetry, sled the Ninth* withal its peeper
hounds. A spin retaining thanks to the oseetnig, Mr.
Homer roneleded with heartfelt coesplissent of the gentlemen
of the Committee who hid int suggested, and tarried MN
effect all the aPrangrateste to the remelt time% AM.
Thit address accepted upwards of one loose sad • hilt gad
Mr. Home sat down amidst Hamden of applause and coo-
gratulat ion.
Mt. Clive then gave—"A fell, pare, said free remittals.
Ikon of she people in Parliament," Ohio wag dreak with
enthesimen.

Mr. Heine spin atom, and after complimenting Mr.
eardo, Mr. Barrett sod Mr. 'Robert prity, y„,„. the maw.
awe tbeylad reordered bins is Parlivinest, returned his pule.
fel thanks fur the kindness that had seernwpsored thew pro.
green is the county of Hereford, aid how much be wee
obliged by she Gees Semen of the Committee who had
thus emniplimented hint by their swill handmine prem..
It was a eireoMstsoee he should never Greet—it was more
bodennible it his eyes than any timnati be resold receive from
eves the Ewa exalted personage—it was the gift of the
people, who bad been pleura tei applaud hie comfort, sod
whose tomtit he pledged Memel, to support by every eye'
lion in his power. He moseloded by pureeing as a toast the
health of the Gemlmes of the C4enbiller.

Mr. J. Allen, jar. merited thanks on the part of the
Cammittse fiw the compliment which had been paid them.
The Chateau meat proposed the health of Robert Peace,
&q., ALP, which was received with great applause.
Mr. Price expressed his thanks in a neat speech, which
we regret we have not room to copy.
The President then proposed Hr. Rica do's health.
Hr. Ricardo, M.P.'s health bents /rank, that gentleman
said be felt highly gratified by the maimer in which the men-
figs of his amine had been received by the respectable corn-
posy before him, and betted to fellers his grateful Imo ~
fur the honour which had bees coofirrod on hon. Mr. Huine's
exertions i• Parliament bad bees sineeminiug, as they
kiiew ; bat be had duties to attired also in different
tees, and few mild have • just idea of the neither of docu-
ments which be had to ceased.. When he eoosidered the
variety of &crowds which came under hi...mutate, and the col
s.
mi.."' reports which be bad read, he believed he might my,
that
surpassed
serrevering exertions, Mr. Hume bed sever been
by any former or present Member of Parliament.
It was • pleasure to him (hi,. Ilticereli) to rclectilliat he had
mewl me all occludes..a f of ecommay, aid while he
had a seat in the House of Comnims be would assitiene to
give his Hon. Friend his best support is oppositely every
wasteful expeuditure of the public mosey. He cosicurrest
fully with the Hos. Chairman anal with Mr. H. that a referee
la the represestation was of vital importance to the isdareate
of the country. Without it good govermaest might truly be
said to be impossible. To obtain • Reform, then,rvery exertion
should be made ; but he reeosintended to dome who beard
him to consider well what constituted a real mid efficient
Reform of the Parliament, fur much error might and did
prevail on this important quertion. The sahject might be
cossidered (hider three views:—first, the eX1•111•111/111of the eler-
tire franchise; secondly, the frequency of elections; and,
thirdly, the mode of election. iVith respect to the Arm of
these, the extension of the eteetive franchise, he did rut cos-
eider it the must important object of the three he had mew-
tinned, yet no Reform eosld be au adequate me which did sue
greatly extend the elective franchise; fur he should be con-•
heated if it went so far as householder suffrage. Upoe the
locoed point, frequenry of eleet ions, he should ash that with-
ont it there could be so cheek in the hands of the electura
against the cum, Ow tithe members. If elections were not
frequent, we should sot very materially improve our ay._
tem •' sod If they were, it would be hut reasouahle to allow
each member to set as be thought proper, notwithmandiag
the known sestiraests of his constituents: those one.
stitsents would have the power to displace him at the fol_
. lowing election. With respect to the third poises, the mode
detection. he thought that of the greatest importance ow •
questions of real reform. To secure a real reprematetion of
the people in Parliament. there must be secrets), of suffrage, or,
as it was commonly callus, elections by ballot. It was loa-
thing but mockery sea delusion to pretend to give the right
of voting to a man if you prevented him from exercisers
it without crowfeet. Let the kind ellen and superior ta-
lents of those above him In station have their due effect in
ineneociag his will—this was a just sod legitimate infiteeace,
hot do sot subject his will to the will of another. If you du,
it is not his vote you obtain bed the vote of soother moo;
and it would be better and more hueourable to give it to that
rasa in the lest instasee. He (Mr. Ricardo) had thought
much on this subject; he had attentively considered ell the
objections which were brought spinal voting by ballot, bet
he could see so weight in them. He hoped wherever the
imports.. subject of reform came under the comidershion
of the gestlemen present, they would out fail dye at-
'entices to this vital security for eased gov
" Lord Harley," was nest drank, who returned shooks.
A letter was then read from Mr. Maducks, M.P., espremiog
hie regret that indisposition prevented his attendance. 4R.
P. Seuelamire, E-q., M.P." was given from the Chair. J.
L. Scudsmore, Emq returned thanks, and read • ester from
his uncle, Isoclines that severe illeiess precluded him front
the pleasure of outmoding the meeting.
The Chairman seat gave 4 T. A. Knight, El." who ex-
pressed his thanks foe the honour. The Chairman sect pro-
posed the health of " S. M. Barrett, Esq. N. P."
Mr. Barrett, in an address replete with wit and humour,
commented ow the late protmediugs of Administration, and
concluded a briniest speech, which our limits preclude ins
from stating, with thaiikieg the meeting for the koseur he
had received.
The Chairman next gave—A Sir Harford Jones, and the
independent Freeholders of Radnorshire."
Sir H. Jews, in ea eloquent sad apposite speech, refereed
Limas.
Several other toasts were gives, and received with banns
of applause.
The company moos after departed, the same seder and
perfect harmony having prevailed during lb. events/ that
had marked the day.

The ferry-host tut couvryihg cattle across the
Thames, bruit:cis Gravesend sad Tilbury Fort,
was upset on Tuesday last by a ruddru gust of
mud. There were, at the tßu•. bye 'urn arid
twenty-seven bullocks 011 board, the whole of which,
with the esceptiou of live of the builucks, were
fortunately saved by the prompt ssmelisuce row
demi.

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