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die partitive oonsumpion of esciauble ankles in diffeient
a-cart; but did be do this hdrly ?On the contrary, he look the
riiti which was a year of cleat depreciation in the consump.
riaafearte% imam' articles, and compared wig' •hat the year tem which
_ one of extraordinary cotommptitm. lie (Mr. Hume) would.
prefer, undertake in prove that to those articles there had ham
iteereased connomptini . lle would particularize the article of
end lake the consumption <tune:: the lan ten years, sad not
fAm a judgment from ,As had been done by the Right
ils,oura e.
ble Gentlentt. This he amid prove, as moon as the
ef returns, fur which hr bad moved. was completed. (A laugh.)
de said `• series of ft errs.' oreature it was absolutely necessary to
bete a pence of the.... berme etreme•Mg any thing In a House
abeee such a large proo t were disiassed to support Minfetera
in whatever assertirma they might think proper to make in contra-
:knoll w his statenteots. Me would ask commercial men, who
aerate the habit of tyaesazither business with every quarter of the
oorW, if they could 'mkt. nut a satisfacte-y statement of their
&fairs, or 'satisfactory halat!ce of their amounts, without bring.
their concerto, into (we account. Uptni the same prin.
tilw wood te istspoe,ilde lir them to do ao, lt would
be also immiscible for Itie llonour.ble Friend (Mr hlaberly)
is meet fairly the matentent of the Right Honourable Gen.
ileum withodt a et:tole! ctsh account, which he has not yet
been able to obtain. The Ki•tht Honourable Gentleman stated that
the onsum
ption of beer lenl inereued 114 per cent., and that of
malt Apse cent. • but he 01r. Hanle) could prove, that although
the English people were one-half triune numerous at the present
.
ea mac they were in the year. intervebing between 1781 and 1792,
wee is these years the erntumption of node hail been greater than it
wee durleg the last ten tram. lie *mild elso prove that the con.
gumption of tobacco and to her articles had decreased, and that even
the article of tea had renininec: stationary during the last 20 years,
so that the whole s atentebt of the Ilitglo Honourable Gentleman
was delusive, incenclusive, and unstuisfaciory. He had not heard
• sit.gle satisfactory reason assigned wi y so huge a
military
eats.
blishtueet Mould he kr pt eJabli.thirent greater than it had
banal any period sit.ce .I.e ternikation of the war. The country
was, in fact, in a much worse state than it hadheen in the year
lON, and thereto? he shield' protest se:together against the state.
. went of the Right lin:mumble fietitlethan. He desired to know
what argument could be offered to prove that the country ought to
be leaded in a utiliser ratio than it hid been in 11118 and 1819? or
'fug reason could be eared to prove that our ittiliiary estabiish•
want ought to by larger than it wtts in thme years ? With venue
to the funding of Exchequer bills, if the Right Honourable Gen-
tleman hal hotted them last year, when the funds were at 95, he
would have acted prteleotly ; whereas now he is about to fluid
when they are only at 76. here was s doer lose of 20 per cent.,
arnountim: to two million, and a half. licsitka, the Right Honour.
the Gotten:an wmb( bathe more to ray tie the ten minima of Es_
chequer bills when converted itto stock than he had at preterit, and
he did not et all state how he meant to provide fur that. He thought
he might have spared the stack w hitli be had made upon the aro-
gismos public tint to which lie lied alluded ; and be confeseed,
that to him (lir. Iltum.) it armarett a- if he had brought it for.
ward solely from a lack ni tiepin:vv. Ile was anxiously expecting
that the Eight llunourshle Gentleman would have declared his in.
tentiva to bout:ere in the +twerp of reduction; but he had dune no
each thing. The rewrite! in hair(' WWI collected at an expense
o:' if. per cent.; in Z5C10.1.1T d at 18, and in England at 94 per cent.;
the total charge for its collection amounting to 3.r(io,ioou. within
the last year. This sues might be reduced one half at least, the
the eystau was bad by a hieh the revecue was collected, the higher
ett.ses of revenue cullecters heiag paid much too extravagantly,
while the under classes were raid insidliciently. The country had
been led to expect that the Sinking Fund was to effect a reduction
of 250,068 f. in the pre-ens year, htsiecsi of which it appeared as if
the people were to rengrasulsee each other arson being enabled to
continue with only the seine lead it. they had been burdened with
hat year. Frei the whole. lie t: Ili bound to declare that the state-
ment was fallacious and delusive.
Sir JOHN NEWPORT mid that it was with great reluctance
he rose to state that he &Wetted in opinien with his Honourable
friend behind him (Mr. Hobe). mine particularly as Ida opinion '
wit in direct opposition to t! c statement ut the Honourable Gen-
denten, for he thought, and he felt betted to declare his belief, that
nut ably that Heim, but the country. was indebted to the 11:glit
Honourable Gentientan (the ('hancetior of the Exchequer). It
was in vain to deny that a great deal lied been effected in the way
of reduction, and he believei still grelicr reductions might be an-
ticipated, and that without injuring the ravesme, for it appeared
that in Ireland the raluctions productive of en ti,creased
neeeue. With regard to the reduction of one shilling in the
peiunclan the duty on tobacco. he was sure that it would be the
metes of dm:toying the stooge:hog of that article, and many
°Mersa-Inch were usually smu..elect in conjunction with it. When
the duty on teheceo was only 7.1. in the pound. it produced to the
revenue 600,00/. When that duty was raised to three ehillinga
per lb. the product was only 459.18/0/. whim was a decisive proof
that as increased duty was not always followed by an increased re-
venue. Tile Commission which had been appoiated to inquire
Into the management of die col cation of the revenue in Ireland,
deserved the greatest praise for the manner in which they had
acted. They 'viol set at defiance the great Ito:Mc:II interests which
had lorded it there with Mimed absolute Away. He, however, re.
grated one liermt—that respecting Revenue Jurisprudence. Ile
thought they ought to brave the opposition there as well as else.
where, for it was a ,1;4•21.1 which ought to lie witolly abolished. In
trials before the hub-Coundasiossers, one of those gentlemen is
sometime the plaintiff. and has his cause tried by his colleague,
'Shemin& *poll the r ear eattedatheir 'hessian beraos teitetseslz
thus changing places for the purpose isf favouring each other, tol
the injury of tie public. ( Hem, hear.) There was no Report
fits the Post Oflir e, because it appeared that the Comotiesioneen
had to look to the English as well as to the Irish Post Office, but
he was parry that that should operate so Rs to cause a delay in the
Report upon the latter, in ihith existed the gros,est and most
ci ermous abuses. Again he begged to repeat, that he derived the
greatest satisfaction hunt the manner in which the principles of
foe trade were about to be credal into operation, and that the
Chencedut of the Exclietrier, from the manner in which he had
managed. the reechoes of the country. deserved the thanks of the
public. and cur his own part he acemded him his most hearty aid
unrcservtal confidence. tEoud cheers:). . . .

Mr. RAH LNG then rent, but from the incessant noise in the
Iz:dirty we 'could catch but little of what he said. Natbing in his
opinion could, he declared. he more temperate or more menly than
the etaecuscrit of the Right Han. (lent leman (the Cloincellor of the
Ette'lequer.) Every financial statement, of course, must be pro.
laced upon an inchoate, and it was impoesible to form such an
estiraate without the probability of erring a million or more en one
shle or the other. Beside., in 0 year of bubble fortunes, a bubble
rev-.ear night he justly exuected. as revenues arose from the con.
euraptien of CXCiiiiuble articles which are for the most part !ta-
nnins ; the consutop;ion of which depends upon those fortunes,
which it is notorious hate beets so dread:l'lly impaired. The Right
lion. I;endmitin was ntill bound to inalte an estimate of some kind,
and in his (Mr. llatinea)pp!qion he had made a very fair one.
flue thing, ho never. wished to remark, which was, that in
niAing a niece lisiadcWit 'Lenient be was not justified. nor was it
eons-Arra with his usual candour to make use of the supposed sla-
t los of taxation of 710,011.9., ns an argument in support of any
of liia nrmoni:ions. ii cuuld not help expressing his surprise that
tines sh ell I be a his of ale hundred thousand pounds on the coin.
when he umierstetel that th -re was it profit of twelve per cent
upon c icing. fie deuhted th • effect which the partial reduction
in the duty upon tebacc I would have to preventirg the smug-
gling of that article, butt still the object in view van so desirable
to attain, that the means put po,sd were worth, at least, the trial.
He ilna4ht that Minin•eot ought to tome forward to relieve the
deal wed hl: it CIS at preereit eight milliner', and was growing
to tire Milos more. It wool I have been mire situirlictory if the
ltißht llont•urshlefisntletnen had stated hie views more fully with
tespect to abe future errsitz:msent of thin and other public burdens.
as well as his ititahlicii boning operations s but consider ng the
spirit of the Right !knowable Gentleman's speech, he felt him-
self to say that he concurred most entirely in his financial
statement.
The clixscr.r,Lon of the EXCHIife'ER, in reply, oh.
served, that Rome of his items had befit objected to by an Bon.
itizother (Mr. LI trim!). lie ( the Chancellor of the F:xchequer)
had stated a gam by the old Irish c tinage of 450,0001. and of
11t9.0eni. by ehe lottery. and the lioneurahle Gentleman hod
asked hiM how he could look forward to a future year for such
casual recent"? But in fact he did not look to any casual receipts
bevontl what experience showed to be their ordinary fluctuations.
Wilt respect to low., too, he had endeavoured to state them at
the Itswest possible rate; there were none of them, he believed,
whir.', mall be considered as permanent losses; most of them
arms out of the situ ition and circumstances of the times, and
witutd, it was reason-hie to suppose, be recovered with the pro-
gresn it tetutnirg prosperity. But if there should be any deli.
renciee in the account of next year, he hoped that other branches
of tt e nvenue vomid fully meet them. Another Hon. Member
huh scoot to make a dininction with respect to the diminution of
dcbt be:wren what he (the Chancellor of the Exchequer) had
stated ard the actual state of things. He (the Chancellor of the
Exeltudier) hail eate.l the amount of the Wile debt in and
is HIN. lie had nhnem that nueing that period there !Ind been a
reduction of four militant in the funded debt, and of 1.300,1X)0/.
in the ut fumied ydebt, it.ilevendetitly el the saving from the re-
cluctien of the instnest tr the public tannin In making that state.
Tlifnt lac had tme in:tenth 4 to melte a paregj Tie on the Sinhing
hi: lied been irsiiititeed, but i.iesely to show the saving that
hail been revile 'r 'note wee raring the last 3 year% tVith respect to
tee a • tangnnertof the deal igh• •chich hail been so much inveighed
splash, he thoegltt he could find sufficient' reasons to justify
the rourse taken by those who were engaged In that trantectit;n.
It certainly was lin' le to rime o's:•ections, but not of much force or
important st and in mane of Government coming to • new arrange.
ment with the Book on that bargain, he pledged himself that it
should be 'settled on a tooting the most beeeficial to the country.
With respect to funding, the Honourable Gentleman opposite
wished to know how it was his intention to proceed, fie would
answer, that it was his intention to fund !I millions, with part of
which heproposed town • sum of about limillions to the Bank. The
mode of managing the transaction, whether by Exchequer bills or
otberwiae,swas not essential, bat his plan was to fund 8 or 9 mil-
-1 oe s. ti of &Inch were to go to the Bank and 3 to the reduction
of the ti-to..tirt del t.
CALCRAFT wished to correct some erroneous opinions
which had been Introduced into the discussion of the dead.weight
annuities, relative to a new mod., err procuring promotion, a mode
which appeared to him to be solve .tngione to the public. A myth'.
ti m had been lately made lay the 4 'n..mander-i1:-Chier, permitting
effic-rs to pnr.hane rank by purchasing half-pay. It appeared at
far t sight, th.t when a pile!, purchased the rank of •
.nior Act/ on half-ray, that the half-pay was transferred by the
inaction boa betrr life, to titdisarlvaidageof the public: that, he
',trusted, was the notion that prevailed tor nigh the country : buthe
be :geld the Cabe to be, that *llea a .144n0r purcltassid the bait-pay

of a senksr officer, ho paid the latter only what his half-pay was
worth to him, and them/aphis was paid over to commissioners for
the benefit of the public. With respect to tobacco duties, al-
though the reduction of them from es. to 3s. Could not have the
effect of driving smuggling oat of the country, yet it had been
extremely beneßoal. He thought it probable that the Chancellor
of the Exchequer. going farther with the knowledge of this fact,
would be able to do more by'the same means. A further reduc-
tion of the duty, sufbeient to drive away 'mitigating altogether.
would, he was convinced. be attended with a large increase of
revenue. The Honourable Gentleman concluded by congratulating
the country and the House on the statement of the Right Honour.
able Gentleman,which had been much more favourable than had
been anticipated or expected.
Sir CHARLES LONG spoke • few wards to the same effect.
Captain GORDON said that, with respect to the alleged wish
of the Scottish community to hare s nietallieourreney, he. could
not coneein whence Ministers derived their information. He be-
lieved the old arrangement was much mote agreeable to that
country, and defended the Scottish Hanka fram any imputations.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER rose to correct
the misconception of the Honourable sod Gallent Captain. Ile
(the Clianeelkw of theUxthequer) hid rather eulogised than ten.
anted the Scotch bankers. Ile believed that the people generally
asncurred in their approbation of the measures to replete the cur.
rency, measures which might not to be restricted in operation while
resting on good principle..
Sir CHARLES FORGES hoped that the Members for Scot.
land would stand together. as was usnally done by the Members
for the Sister Kingdom. If his friends would stand by him, lie
would steadfastly resist and completely defeat the measures of the
Right Honourable Gentleman. (Laughter.)
Ale. ELLICE said he could not let this opportunity pass with-
out adverting to what had been just said. The Dill. of which the
Scotch bankers complained, applied also to England, and he
thought it augured ill of the boasted solidity of those establish-
ments that they should thus cure' petitioning the House for further
time to make their payments. The English banke, had taken no
such liberty. Ile would venture to maintain that it a case of pal..
pable overtrading could he niatle out against any. it could be proved
against the Scotch barking system. After the adoption of those
measures by so large a majority of that House, he was surprised to
hear any one speak of further resistance. If circumstances required
such indulgence in Scotland or Ireland, the period at which those
measures were to commence operation in those countries might be
postponed. He wished to ask the Right Honourable Gentleman
a question relative to something which had fallen from the President
of the Board of Trade with regard to the duty on soap. Ile wu
unwilling to tons the matter then. but hoped that when an otipor-
tunity should decor, the Right Honourable Gentleman would al-
low him tenni) himself of it.
Mr. BRIGIIT recommended a reduction of the tax on re.
ceipts, which pressed he said upon particular persons ; and hoped
that Ministers would observe the strictest economy in the dis-
posal of the pubic money.
Mr. HUSKISSON begun by staring, in reference to something
which had fallen In the previous discussion, that he contemplated
the regtilatiag the silk duties in the same manner as the woollen• by
allowing drawbacks on the export. lie agreed with the lion.
Member for Taiinton in regret till; that there had not been a greater
surplus; but his chief object in rising was to clear the statement
of his Right Honourable Friend from the mass of • iiscoreeption In
which it had become involved. The Honourable Member for
Abingdon (Mr. Moberly) hail said, that whether he looked at the
total amount er the almost charge of the national debt, he found it
had increased. It aopesred by 'the returns which time honourable
t;entleman hail procured, that that increase had been to the amount
of seventy millions. such en apparent result might be easily con-
.tired by the arrangement of the accounts ; but he would entlea.
your to set the Iliounirable 3l ember right. The fallacy of the
Honourable Member consisted in his computing the annual charge
us if the whole of the pensions hail been sold, and in his reckoning
by anticipation the sum of those arinunies as part of the present
debt. The dead weight, as it was called, ,Ministers could not
strike off*: they might alter the manner of its liquidation. but couid
tot get rid rat it altogether. He was sure that the Right Hon.
Member would not persuade the House that the capital of the
debt had increased seventy milli ens, and the charge two millions
more titan but been represented. With respect to the observations
of the Honourable Member for Aberdeen, they held out but little
encouragement to Minister*. lie said lie could show that our
taxes had increased, and descanted on the consequent diminution In
the enjoyment of the people. fits Right Honourable Friend (the
Chancellor of the Exchequer) had taken off the taxes front wine.
front silk, and many others; and yet the Ilmnotrable Member for
Aberdeen said we had more taxes than before. ((fear.) lie
thought he could appeal to many Members in that House whether
their mom niend ario ii toll in istersto, lighten or abolish various taxes,
were not sincerely and ell•nittially attended to.
Mr. Al A HEBEI' maintained that i: appeared from the returns
that the charge of the public debt in 11319 was 39,176,156(. and in
11326 it amounted, to 29.141.7 iii!., being a decrease on the charge
Li those three years of M.'s:Xi.% lie had moved for those papers
the the sake of proving that there was RettIRIIV ito Sinking fund of
live millions, nor could VC have an efficienoiiikirg Fund until we
got rid of the dead weight.
A MEMBER, whose name did not reach the gallery, and Mr. T.
'Wnsox, said a few words, but which were inaudible In the
gallery. C
Sir C. FORBES suggested that he had heard frothing in the
way of argument that would justify a change of the banking sys-
tcps in St u;lond.Land telare each a measure was resorted toAve
trusted that a Committee-6f Intjoir, would he appointed, tit
into its expediency. Far himself, he would say, that 'hitherto It
had wed well, and therefore It was that he was fur letting well
alone.
It was then moved that the sum of four shillings in the pound be
deducted front the salaries and pensions of otiicers payable out of
the Civil List iu Great Britain and Ireland, upon which
Mr. HUM E rose, and said that it was very desirable that a'
saving should be made in the collection of that ditty. He recom-
mended' to the notice of the Right lion. Gentleman (the Chan-
cellor of the Exenequer) the propriety or issuing those salaries and
pensions for less than four shillings in the pound, if the reduction
was to be filmic. If only I,uool. coeld be saved, it was advisable
that it should he done.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was quite ready
to admit the correctness of the observations of the Hon. Gentleman
(Mr. home) ; but as a great part of those salaries add pensions were
paid out of the Civil List, lie doubted whether it could be done
without iaterlering whit the ( ivil List ; and then came the ques-
tion whether they could utter tic Civil List. At the same tinie,
when the Civil List was considered, it might be proper to consider
whether the issues should not I.e ;made minus the duty.
Mr. 11 I.' 31 E ,aid, that as the !louse, by the Aet they were then
doing, were making an tilicrivion in the Civil List, it was quite
preposterous to say that the House could not interfere.
The Resolution was then a:,teed to. end the llousc resumed.

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BRIBERY J. 71. ELECT lONS* I ;
On the motion of Lord .1. RUSSELL. the Bribery at Elections t
Bill was read a seco.,ll time and comoMied. I
C011311171-..E Or SUPPLY. ,
On the motion of Mr. II i;ltlt ILS, the House resolved keel!
Mtn a Committee of Supply. t
Mr. BERRIES then moved that the sum of 38,0001. he granted i
to his Majesty- to defray the expmse of certain puhitc buildings.
Mr. HCME begged to as:: the lloaourahle tientleman trom
what sotirce the building of itsacl;i::-Abaitt House was to be paid ? 1
He supposed his Majesty's Ahnisrtrs had thund a mine, the pro- ,
needs df which would be applied to that purpose.
Mr. If ERRIES said that the al:erat ion and repairs in question ,
would be NW fur out of the revenues of his Majesty's Woods and
Forests.
Mr. lICM2 said he should oliiict o such a regulation. The
revenue arising front the %Vl:oda itta! Forests were as much public
property as those arising front the Chstoins or Exe:se. and ought
to be subjected to the control of l'exliament. It would be recol.
lected that when the measure respecting the alterations at Nt'ind-
sor Castle were before the llonse, he had suggested the pro-
Priety of the House being furnished with an estimate, but none
ad been given, and therefore he must press his tptestioo as to
what expense the public would be put to. Ile contended that
his Majesty's Alintsters bad Ir.° right to make such an appropria-
tion without the consent of l'arliatvent.
Mr. BERRIES eiul I only say that, when the subject wee
before the 'louse last year, it met with its concurrence.
Mr. !Intl; said he remembered that the Chancellor of the
Excl:equer had taken a great deal of trouble almuc Windsor
Carle, but he nitro object to the principle on which those mu.
teen were conducted. lie would rather crone to a vote for a sum
or three or four hundred thousand pounds at once, and hare a
proper cstimat: laid before the House.
Sir C. LONG was• undcroood to ssy, that although no estimate
had been given, there could be no objection to its being done, if
applied tor.
Mr. ELLICE considered that an estimate of the expenses
ought to be laid before the !louse: and he thought the Recounts
of the money received and expended by the t'o:thrt;.sioners of
Woods and Forests should be more under the catarol of Pulie.
mans. These Commissioners pulled down ofd mat raised rew
streets mid borrowed money, and yet tire House had not the :east in-
formation of what was doing. Ao estimate should be given of all
works ca•ryitig on, ler which the funds were to be supplied. by
the Commissiuncrs of Weals and Forests ; and a regular account of
receipts and payments laid before the !louse.
Mr. lIIISKISSON said that the llanottrable flentlernan the
Member for Coventry (Mr. Ellice) could have paid very little at-
tention to the subject, or be trust hire known that by Act of
Parliament the Commissioners of Ilroods and Forests were corn.
pellet: to lay before the House every three years a Report of
their receipts and expenditure. Whether the present or the next
year was that in which the Report was to be made he (Ale.
Iluskisson) did not recollect. Tho..e Commissioners never bor.
rowed motley but according to the Act of Parliament which regit.
hated their proceedings ; at the same time there could be no oh.
' jection to furnishing au estimate. In the ordinary course of
proceeding, the expense of alteration and rrpairs of the palaces
was paid out of the Civil List; but where large repairs were tic.
ccsilaairr.yE, alliinetchesacia:telieolswaEl:,:ikuiinteglatawianreHthoautset,heitmwonaseyimboproirnotwibedle
bthyeythceoeu laidubi ch
i,,piaioidnefroar oinutgiutfesthtiaotntawnaid;boat,:drotwhee(rieufonrdeeritawnasA
ctth that
tphaerLanmdentrev.enauned was
i onedhleinpmrolpreirmd
beeonn wahpiachrtytompnlaraxionthitnmg.the
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proses of that Board ; but he thought it would be far better that
the sums in question should form MI item of the public expense.
lie was SlStlrett that if the accounts were patisfertorily rendered, his
gpijeitty's government would not find so much objection as was,
Made to the voles in question.
Mr. ARBUTHNOT said that the subject was every session
brought under the consideration of the (loom He hoped. about
Easter, to bring in ii Bill for carrying into edict the improvemsats