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.p,u101e4,, which ,tould, usig,
demi • and; receive ronstdqation. The Honour,,
ahlr. I.l4ver tied described a eerie): f? 1 cameo
fisi the 'misery • whit+ hehad printed lei rather tnj
gloving. colourc. Machinety had binishid had
labour, and the country was never to be happsk
ittoit the plough* being "belished and the 'spade,
restored, she were all at work dig4ing'in the'otten
fields. He protested sgitini.t. the introduction"Or
ihroretie specolutions into the business of Portia..
ment, which was already too eatensive and difficult.
fl• .as not sure that Mr. Owen's plan could be at
all facilitated by Parliament, as it ought to be left
to dad its own live!. He could uever Undertake
r,tirtrelf to recommend the plan of throwing the
enoutry into parallelograms. Were that to take
place, this would no lugger be the grist country
.which it had been. The system might be gond
tor the regulation of pour houses, but would 'sever
tiara great nation, having their political strength
mid vaned interests to uphold. He opposed the
nietion.
Sir W. i)g CIESTIGINY justiti.4 the charactir
p 1 Mr. Owen's establishment at Lanark. He
Itiots.glit that no place was no will lined for the con-
sideration pf,tneasures conducive to the welfare of
mankind as the House of Commons. He cons

!rested the decent and iiitelligent coodition of Mr.
Owen's school with nun, of those which exiided
iwtowo, which, in-teed .of briug woeful, were sinks
• pf
•alsoroinatowr and sources, of crime. He con-
ijitclesl by supporting the motion.
Ntr. Hums had never before beard a speech from
the Noble Lard winch hail/hien him so much antis-
fiction. Ile Au:corded with :every.,oenterice of it.
1!• he-proposition. respect nog. Mr. Omeri's plan were
calenlated to ameliorate the condition of the poor,
be would •he ready to IlbiliPOrt* it. But it only
Weld to destroy the indenendent and national cha-
racter•of Englishmen. UN objection to it was, that
it wits toe orderly. Every thing was to be done bY
our cfmn. Distinction, open to every one in this Coon.
try, could not be sought in Mr. Owen's parallelo-
grams. If men were not elated on to think, they
never would think. Circumiletteev mist act upon
ibein, or they never Could elerite themielves to the
condition to which it was poisible for any man to
raise himself in this country.• .
Mr. F. BUXTON ugreed with every sentence of
the Noble Lord, and disagreed with every one in
'lie speech of his Hon. Friend'thellisiver.. He ob-
jected to the quadrangular 4iiiiidiseS of Mr. Owen ;
yet he found motives enough to induce him to sup-
port the motion. Ile expatiated on-the inherent
and prolific vicesof the poor-houses and some of the
charitable establishment! and admitted the good
order and decent economy of :the schools on Mr.
Owen`s estate. They (the Hotive) had much to
learn on tlist subject, and Mr.
,O.sen had much to
teach them, and fur this tempt) he would recom-
Ail* the House to adopt tjle esolian,
Scsist.scre objected to the motion, because
the object was not auffieiently specific, and because
he thought the proposed mode of inquiry was unfit
fur the adoption of the House..
Mr. GURNEY did not like the • projects of Mr.
Owen ; but considering the distress which had pre-
vailed in Mr. Owen's part of the country, and that
lie had in this period of suffering screened 2,000 per.
wait from it, he thought there wacennugh to induce
.the House to confirm to the institution of a Corn-
.mission, to inquire how far Mr. Owen's principles
were applicable to the wants of particular classes in
society.
Mr. WiLeaseoace objected to the motion, be.
-cause he thought it very easy for five or six Gen-
Airmen of that Hnu,.e to go down and examine
Prlr. Owen's ertablisluneut for themselves, set their
information down on paper, and give much more
.satiJactory iuformstion than could be got from the
Arend proceedings of a Commission.

Dr. LVSIIINGTON could not torte his assent to
'Noe motion. Mr. Owen might, by possessing power
41freiitti the individuals of his establishment, pro-
's/nee touch good from his systeM ;. the case was
otherwise if the jilan were to be generally applied
•to the condition of the poor. He admitted the
• exeelleoce of many of Mr. Owen's arrangements;
but-then their value and usefulness were to be best
propagated by the press and the working of public
opiaion He thought that the subject was be-
smith thcdignity of Parliament.
Mr. W. Salmi rose, but gave way .10-
Mr. CANNING. He had conceived the highest
respect for the feeling*, talents, and zeal of Mr.
Owen. The subject had been pressed upon him
by Mr. Owen, and after the most impartial east:M-
onition of it he wished publicly to say why he must
oppose the motion of the Hon. Member. The
nisin wire of the oystem was the throwing down of
those distinctions and- relations iu society, the de-
struct:on of which was repugnant to mankind, and
especially to the feelings and welfare of this
Bat his chief objection was to forming the first
precedent in the history of mankind of undertaking
to adopt the recommendations of a legislator who
professed no religion. Whoever felt his mind so
circumstanced ought, at least in a country where's
religion existed, to keep his opinions to
himself. He thought that• as information was the
only object now *ought, it might be obtained much
more cony. ' Hr-reminded the HON. Mover of the
trouble elk+ the appointment of a Commission
wouhi throw on the Executive Government of the
country.- He recommended the advocates of the
motion to undertake the inquiry themselves, and
d Vair the- -pleasing duty of 'bringing 'brawnd the
propositions to be founded on: titeltdDriantieti which
thoy sotgid ecqeirr. He Wess-Itypity id I opftod.%4
the lutt,ten tv find that •he,,iviiiAtet• Own .any
tiring which errultlVierttilrlihtliitdeti4Vtf
M r. W. Suitt" Oa "polled IlairriAtogr fat inquiry,
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.tie question.
4.110.. -hillier the Muir 'Should adopt 'the plan,
eat whether the House should inquire into
itiV. feasibility. He contended that Mr. Owen's
effin was not, as hid been insinuated, entirely devoid'
irreligion. He supported the motion, without at
all pledging hiMself to all the details of the plan.
Mr. MAXWELL replied to -the 'objection. which.
had been urged, but declined dividing the Howe.
Lliotfouem • said Ola the Huu. Member had
deClitiell his intention not 'to divide, it became the
fess necesisry for him 'to state the reasoni for the
vote he load intended to ire. He eon-irlered the
motion was for an inquiry inio the 'Minute denial' of
a successful practical experimeitt,• made by Mr.
Owen at the manufactory over which he had so long;
honourably to himself, presided. Au this could not.
be brought within• the reacts of the Waste it sass
necessary fir rime 'personage go to' New Lanetk
to make the necessary inquiries, and in-that vier
of the case it should here had his support. • He
must rectify one great- melt•ke that had got
abroad. It was said that-the eonnnunity at New
Lanark lived without religion. He bad ;heard it
complained of as havingetoo nisch, and certainly
if it could be blamed fueeither, theoriser woe on the
side of eaves. He •belieted this-opinion of the
want of religion bad arisen fromefeirie' speculative
ortinions which Me:Oseen hstlitbrideiseefly made on
urine public occasion ; what they were he kner'neit;
but certainly his estoblislimeht was catculuted • for;
and 'lid give a religious education to there brought
up
there.
The question was then pet, and negatived with-
out II dlllllllOl4 • . ,
SLAYE'TitiIeE:
Mr. Wteeettroace then Seise 'and addreiterd'elit
House, but was fora coosiderible period istotedlblo
in the gallery from the 'linseed strangers deponent)
and the low' tone of voice in •whieh he spoke.
Wa undrrstood him to have gitien a 6.4 f out=
hue ' of the measores which had been pursited its
effecting. the abolition of the Slave Trade,.down to
the period •'wheis by the Bill iidrodisced•by his
Honourable and Learned (Mr.' Brougham).k at
length was- gimped with' its.true charaetegr It
was then natural that we should endeavour to leette
rail on other nations tercarry into effect the priej
ciplee to which we had agreed. Juet. belief* the
conclusion of the ear, we had become the only
writes of the commerce of the :world,' and thee
just for a short perisd Africa enjoyed a comfiest
of those evils which she had endured for tnieeene
thrice; and it was theta found that the ; Afneatit
were not that degraded set of being* 'ditch
they had beets represented, but that they' were
capable of every improvement, and when their
properties were secured would attach thermal*,
to the pursuits of indosery,• •and foremlebie
peaceful and happy communities. • Svelte rtlb
the state of when • Image wee
by this country, sad his • Noble .Friendefeb
Marquis of .Londenclerryy•then eadeivoiered Wl*
the principle of the abolition recognised by alb
ether Polices of Europe. When•the ',abject •
brought forivaed;. it 'Was gratifying teefitid that all
the great Power! of Eineme usatetAti one come
mon sentiment of retirobation of. the African) Slave
Trade. The utmost- Viet was. asked. as for some
future period to be stained for a termination, so tie!
existing interests might suffer as little ai possibfd.
The longest period was claimed by Patugal, which
even then'display ed. don tardiness end apathy which
she had since were fully developed. Spain con-
sented to obolitali- the trade at an earlier period.
This country boid 'the honourable distinction of
grinning, with a liberal hand, sums „pf,money so
compelltAlie those two Powers (Spain cud Portugal)
fur certain ships which had been seised, to iudisce
them to agree to the principles which we had
adopted. He stated this to slier that the proceed-
ing had been temperate and gradual, and such as
entitled us to the confidence of the rest of Europe.
He came sow to inquire into what had been
the terms of the Treaties which we had
formed with those countries, previous to which
he ought to have mentioned, with the highest appro-
bation, the labourend persevering ability with which
the Noble Lord opposite had travailed in the claw.
Notwithstanding the establishment. of the Mixed
Commission for the purpose at treitig offences re-
lating to the Slave Trade, against the Treaties
entered into with those Powers who formed part of
that Commission, it was with extreme pain he
stated that the Shave Trade was still carryiug ou
to an immense extent, and under the flags of
those Powers who were bound by Treaty to dis-
continue it, and carried ou too with a degree
of barbarity—/Hear, hear, bear)—exhausting the
pooribillty of adding any thing to human suf-
fering, and more than verifying all that had been
said of the enormities of the traffic heretofore. He
was sorry to find that one nation, who had been
much obliged to us, yet did not display that
salon and desire to concur with us in endeavouring
to put an end to the traffic which might have been
expected; but he yet hoped that country would
awaken to some degree of zeal-, and at last join us
in our endeavours to put an end to a trade which
they might be assured never could be profit-
ably carried on, even ou commercial principles.
Spain, at various periods rat her history, had
displayed a great and high-minded character,
and from her, notwithstanding some appearances to
the contrary, he had hopes al a corded co-operation
to put an end to the system. It should be remem-
bered that his Noble Friend (the Maiquis of Lon-
donderry), when he found it impossible to nish•
Portugal fix a term for .sbolialsing this trade, had
stated, that if she alone of the nations of Europe
should continue to early on the trade,- it might be-
come necessary to adopt stronger measures than
'entreaties mud remonstraucts. The other Powers
at once agreed to the reasotrableneas of that prop...
wive, end. lit did think it became the House as*
the country to endeavour to bring Portugal to; gi
clear underetsuchug on that poial.--E ?tear, he*
hear,)—lt was gestapo/lc to see dirt America hl4
(Wed 111 a very ditr.rci.t manner, .a..cf though fretu

and .
J ngly.
__ gratifying .
„rye this unity of sentiment between America and
Ssrselves.—(Hear, hear.)—lf this were the feel.
ing as to that country, how could he speak' of ans'r•
other nation, of great and chivalrous character (lie.
meant France), who had disappointed our own
expectations, having carried on the trade to a
greater extent, and trifled with us more than
any other country. He should have hoped that
as the was now first enjoying the blessings of a
free constitution, she would hive shewn some
respect for the rights and liberties of mankind ;
he had hoped that, as the King of France had
written a letter to the Prince Regent on this sub-
ject with his own hand, they would have taken care
to chew that they would take that course whet
justice and honour so loudly called for. • When
this country, which had been called a nation of
merchants and traders, gave op the traffic.-when
all the other nations of Europe agreed that it
was a polluted trade, which could not be touch-
ed without pollution, he could not have imagined
that the generous and high-minded Frenchman
would have taken it up: but he was persuaded they
were ignorant of the real nature of this horrible
commerce, or they would never thus cling to
it.' The atrocities and - cruelties of their own
revolution sunk in comparison with the gigantic
horrors of this trade into mere trifles. Sir
ts'eprge Collier had spoken of the barbaritiesi
which he had himself witnessed in terms which
must shock every man. He had mentioned
detaining• a' 'French vessel; on boarding her he'
saw• no shl'elii-on board, but he heard a finut round
which Came. from a cask, and on opening it be
found two poor human beings nearly expiring front
suffocation ; sod the sailors remembered that dur.
ing the chase they had perceived a number of cadge
floating, and as it was known that a number of
slaves had been brought oil board which were not
found, there could be no doubt at all that the
poor creatures had been committed to the waves.--.,
(Hear, hear, hear.)—But this was mercy with
the lingering' tortures which • others were fated to
endure. The Hoe,. Member, then stated the case
of the Rodeos; a Freacb vessel, in which the whole
el the slaves were seized with blindness, which ulti-
mately- communicated to the crew, and only one
roan on board 'escaped the malady. These facts
were published at Paris, and occasioned no sensate
;ion whatever; no inquiry whatever war made ex-
cept by the medical men,. who considered it a sin'
Odor case of ophthalmia. It was disgraceful to the
country that these facts came out not in a Court
of Justice, as they ought to here done, but
ire , a book elucidating a principle of surgery.
This grand difficulty which lay in the way, the
only thing which obstructed the wishes orthose
who desired to see the trade completely abolished,
was the .objectioes made to the right of searching
each wheels vessels. That appeared to him to be
theonly mode that would be effective, 'and 'he
hopedthat France, if she reallyintended to abolish
the trefic, would be induced to give up her objec-
tions, as she night do so.without any imputation of
ineannesa, or appearing to condescend through
weakness. As we asked nothing for our cruisers
which we were not willing to concede to theirs, and
as we had always maintained with jealousy the dig-
nity of our flag. there could be no dishonour in
iheir allowing that which we were ready to allow.
Another; plan hod been' suggested, which was that
,df having an officer of each nation on board the
cruisers employed on the service of preventing the
Skye Trade, whose duty it should be, whenever a
vowelless chased, to decide whether it was a case
in which a search should be enforced. That was a

plan, the practicability of which might 'Perhaps
admit of some doubt. But there was another
course, to the adoption of which he did hope all
Nations might be brought to agree—he meant, to
' concede a mutual amid general right of search.
That would be a great step in the approach
to the conduct of Auieriza, who had declared
soy of her citizens detected in the odious

and abominable traffic to be punishable with
death as for piracy. He hoped the day would
soon arrive when all nations would agree to make it
piracy, and when all would treat a slave trader as
a common enemy of mankind. America had de-
monstrated in every possible way her sincerity
in her desire to put on end to the system. The
Honourable Member then proceeded at some
length to observe upon a Report which lay
on the table from the Commissioners at Sierra

- - -
Leone, relative to the state or the trade in 1820,

which represented it as almost extinct, while
by the Report of Sit George Collier it appeared that
tie hail seen st fiavannah 40 soil of vessels under
French and other colours Ettiug oat fur the trade,
which must the greater part of • them have been

• upon the coast at the time when the Report of the
Commissioners was,-drawn up. It became llns•
country to use the most strenuous efforts, and
even to make great suerificen in order to effect
the total suppression of the monstrous
It was the more incumbent on us when we recol-.
!coed that we hod fur two tenruriea .cario it on,
and that we were among 111194** to embark in
Non. The on. Member p onOiineed 'ett anigapted
eulogy on' Mr. Pitt for his sincerity, and net iu the
cause of the abolition, and proceeded to dtserihe
the beneficial effects producrd. by the abitlition, as
displayed in tie alterertand improved condition'of
the natives, which followed upon that event in Sene-,
gal and the oilier French' settlements then in our
possession, but since ceded,to France, and contrast-
ed therewith a view of the change which that cession
had wrought for the worse by the revival of the hor-
rible trade in those parts. He hoped the lilac was
not for off when they would have better reason to
congratulate the Nob'e Lord on the successful re-
sults of his exertions iu the cause of the abolition
—(liear, hear)—which he had advocated with a
zeal sod ability which did him honour—(Cheers)---
and the success of which had only been defeated
by a mistaken sense of gain. Mistaken it certainly
Was, for the great °retainer of events never permitted
national greatness to be founded on national guilt ;
on the contrary, he was convinced that national
prosperity could only be secured by following the

scribed by the prioceplet of justice end
The Hon. ilmobor thmi apologised to
noise for having tes loner trespusqed on their
',Motive, and concluded by moving a locg
timler for an Address to his Majesty, praying him to
use his influence with the other nations of Europe
..tia.imilesse- them to co.operate with. this country. as,
strenuous exertions to put an end to the Slave
'Trade.—in this resolution were embodied all the.
leading topics of the Hon. Member's speech.
Mr. BROUGHAM seconded the motion.
The Marquis of Loanoecteaae said that he,
in common with the House, always listened with
the greatest pleasure to any speech which fell from
his Hon. Friend, and he could assure his lion.
Friend that he had heard him that night with the
greater satisfaction, from observing that while Ito,.
endeavoured to arouse the seal of that House and
of other countries to a vigorous exertion for the
abolition of the trade, he did not forget that we
ourselves had ti.o long set them an ill example
by our perseverance in carrying it on. With
respect to the Address moved by the Honourable
Member, he could not but feel that ifivelivete to .
look upon this ar a political question, it contained,
many observations which he could Dot.
.bicoffie
vial capacity, consent to introduce in any diplomats.,
tic document without exercising a discretion Of
revising and modifying them, so as to prevent any_
unpleasant impression which they might, if so used•
be calculated to produce. in tielding, howevegii
in his individual character to the proposal of la
Hon. Friend, he hoped he should not incur ante
blame, because he thought that this was a qnestiou
On which it was proper that those tininess with,
whom we had to deal on the subject should know,
the true slate of the feeling of this country. We
ought not, however, in our. progress towerds the
object .we had in view, to disguise to ourselves'
the obstacles we might have to encounter, and
the difficulties which were to be overcome, for
the best way to be prepared for meeting them
was by fully discussing them. I-Ie concurred
with his Hon. Friend iu thinking that the Report
of the Commissionersat Sierra Leone was in some
measure founded in delurion ; but lie thought,
notwithstanding, that the good effects of our exer-
tions were apparent in the reduction of the
traffic, even to a much greater extent than could
have been expected, particularly when it -wee
considered that all systems of this nature were
feeble in their commencement. He went alorig
With his Honourable Friend in his reasoning on tlii
propriety of recognising the trade as a common
grime against human nature; but unless other na-
tions could be induced to consent to concur in a
common search of all vessels engaged in the traffic;
It would he found impossible to prevent any yew!,
So engaged from sheltering itself under the flag o
*hat nation refusing the right of search, of which
no cruiser might happen to be present. He went
along with his Hon. Friend in general principles, and
he agreed with him in the general observation, that .
nations were in general liberal in proportion to the
freedom of their respective governments; yet he
must say that he had not found that free govern.
ments were always the easiest to treat with on thil
subject. He did not mean to question that Aimee
rica eat sincere as far as her endeavours went in
her desire to put down the trade, but his Holt:
Friend was mistaken if he supposed that she would
seedily lend herself to the system. She had de-
tained it piracy, but only so far as regarded her
awn mode of treating such of her subjects as might
be detected by her own cruisers in pursuing
The American Government also was that which of
all others would be found the most opposed to
granting.' common right of search. His Hon.
Friend therefore must not suppose that he would
meet with hut little resistance, nor that such resist.
mice would proceed from despotic governments
only. The Noble Lord then proceeded at much
length to slier', that with France and Spain, which
were both under constitutional governments, tench
difficulty must be found in negociatiug fora zealous
co-operation in effectually abolishing the trade, ow-
ing to the public mind in those countries not being
sufficiently prepared for the adoption of principles
fouuded in the finer feeling, of right and jai&
tire. An attempt to get a law passed by the
Codes in Spain for affixing a corporal punishment
'to the offence had failed from that cause alone.
In France equal difficulty would be found.
With respect to Portugal, he lamented to say that
she was an inglorious exception to the rest of Eu-
rope. The only approach to a negociation on the
subject on her part was at the Congress'of Vienna,
when the proposal was accompanied with condi-
tions for commercial advantages, which he felt
himself obliged at once to reject, as exceeding all
reasonable demand. Since then a projet of a com-
mercial treaty, offering considetable advantage
to the trade of Portugal and Brazil, had been
negociated with Count Almeida in this country,
and sent to Brazil for ratification, with the expel.,
notification that it would only be carried into effect
on the condition of some advance, being wade by
• Portugal towards the total eittiticnon of the traffic
in dare!. That Treaty arrived at Rio Jaiieiro
eight mouths ago, but found the Goverumeut there
in.& ewe of agitation which prevented its being im-
Awediately attended to. The Noble Lord then
- proceeded to argue upon the difficulties presented
in that quarter by the nature and extent of the
territory—vindicating the Government from the
blame of the perseverance in the trade, and
.ascribing it to the influence of the colonial interests.
He enlarged also on the difficulty he always found
iu negociating en this subject, to convince other
Governments that this country had not some to-
twitted view et the bottom of her endeavours.
Sir J. Alscattyrosu rose to make some °beer-
Tatiana on the present occasion, because the only
use of the discussion of questions of this nature
Was tiiih—olithe opinion which the House ebter-
taMed on the subject, which could only be done by
Members rising and delivesing their sentiments.
He fully concurred in the view of his Hon. Friend the
Member for Bramber, and gave full credit to the
Government fur sincerity in their exertions for the
suppression of that system of enormities which still
assume the name laud guise of trade. He was.
however at issue with the Noble Lord in the
estimate he had formed of the difference in the
disposition of free mid despotic governinstits
to treat fully on the subject. He would lay
out of consideration the acquiescence of We
Monarchs io the north of Europe, for thee
had no colonial interests to sway them from. the

adoption of the hroad aid geieral principle 4r
justice. Spain also he would lay out of the quei-
tion, the public mind not being vet in a state to
view the question in its proper light. The Noble
Lord had pleaded in extenuation of the conduct of
the Governm-nt of Portugal, the interest of i:s ex-
teosive colonial possessions. What had he to say tc,
the countries' in South America, formerly under the
Spanish Government? They were now under po-
pular gatemen b, which liskilkaombined to
abolishing shivery. He found that. North America
and the tumultuous governments of the I odeptudoo/
States of South America had overcome, in tlyi
respect, local interest. as strong as any v•.ict.
could he felt in Wax 1. The Govern/mat of
Portugal, he 'maintained, had not a ahorlow Atop
case. It had been undisturbed for five years otolasseei
and during that time bad made no attempt imorterfe
the abolition. By the Treaty which was concliodtrit.
in the year 1810, the Government of l'urfsigtl
had sealed ha own infamy and disgrace ; it had
proclaimed its.Tlf on °slam from civilized nations'
He next felt himself under the neemisity of calling::
or rather re-calling the attention of the Hoarse /sr
the conduct perstreil by the Gore'rritient of France.
It was strange to atite thriliniong4 the French,
'statutes there ?as ap:law or euactmeot against this
(crime. He eallecl it crimp, it was a comings/ion of
imitates& an initented • deciduoue of crimes..—( Loud
lehecrs.)—lndred in the Chamber of Depatlea
ion Hormaeohle Om. ienlightened Friend of his
(Monsieur Fayette), on of the iudividnala whom
j the Noble PfaiTsitmlind denounced, hail boldly
!declared himself is favour of the abolition. if
'any . man considered all the ramifications of guilt
'and misery—all the murders that insist be com.
muted in the bloody progress of obtaining 0,000—
and if we turned our eves from the sufferers to the
agents, and considered the numbers of men it M-
itred to blood, divested of every thing human but
the power of sloingmbelsief, human nature must
revolt at this 1111$1 of moral depravity—(Hear,
lteur)—ond he sincerely wished he could sal-
quit the French Government of all charge of
connivance. He knew, if all the frets were made
known to the people of that enlightened and highly-
lettered country, one universal cry of indignation'
would be r..ised, demanding a renunciatiou of that
hypocritical atrocity that brought such disgrace
upon the French eusiinii". Li coutrusi with the Go-
vernmeot of Portugal he might adduce the Moho-
metan Government, for even the uncivilised tribes
of Madagascar bad declared for the abolition.
Some persona were of opinion that the degree to
which this traffic had been carried afforded
little hope of success!. This argument was alike
used by the ingenious opposer of Ills
mei-
tare, and the benevolent but impatient advo-
cate. But he was oldenough to remember the time
when the advocate, of the abolition were stigma-
tised as Jacobins, but now the opponents to it
were considered as dead to the calls of homassity
. and • when he considered the rapid progress which
even in that space of time bid been snlidt,' hi felt
cheered whh the hope that, by unwearied exertions
and the diffilaioss of knowledge, this odious system
would be banished from the earth, and leave no
feeling lout abhorrence.—[The Host, and Learned
Gentleman sat down amidst loud cheers from all
sides of the House.]
Lord MILTON was of opinion, that before we
could look to any steudy co-operation on the pert'
of France its this great cause, we must see religion
completely re-e,tablished ; for it was not religious
bigotry, or a strict adherence to forms, that was
most fasourable to promoting the cause of liamanity.

Dr. LtISHINQTON roie to support the statement
of his Hon. and Learned Friend, that no feeling of
humanity appeared on the part of the Government
of Portugal. He could produce evidence which had
been receiver) in . Courts of Justice to .Lew that
torture hbd been resorted to in a' mutter shocking
to humanity. One instance in particular he should
mention: A vessel from the coast of Africa hid
come in'o the Cape of Good Hope, and tlAue tome
of these unfortunate slaves bed been confined in a
place two feet nine iiichts high, without any proti-
(lion made for the common necessities of nature.
In the course of 17 days there had been u large
mortality amongst them, and no extenuation what-
ever had been of : they contended they had a
right to carry on their trade as they pleased

Mr. BERNAL stated, that • million of money was
paid to Portugal to abolish the Slase Trade north
of the Line, and he quoted various taste:ices to
prove the villainous infraction of the Tteaty.
•• Mr. NjARRYATT read some extracts from Dr.
Buchanett's Travels, to show that the statements of
the Hon. and Learned Gentleman (Sir J. Mact:iii-
sash), respr:ting the West Indies, weir incorrect.
There were two great authorities opposed to each
other, and when the House considered the imper-
fect opportunities the Hon. and Learned Gentle-
man had had to become acquainted with theliabits
mid customs of the people, they should be able to
determine to which the meet•wright was to f.e at-
tached.
Mr. MONET said, that with all due respect for
the authority of Dr. Buchanan, he must confirm
the statements or his Hon. and Learned Friend
respecting the abolition of the Shiite Trade iu the
West Indies.
Mr. 11. GURNEY wished io know whether Cie
proposition before the If „ouse gave any of
interference with foreign States.
Mr. BaOUGHAM said, th:it having seconded t.io
Address of his Hon. Friend (Mr. Witiverfisee,),
must say, that if in the four corners or that A nt‘
any thing were contained pledging the !baize
hostile interference with the Governments of me,.
countries, he should never have supported it.
Hon. and Learned Gentleman then made a few oh.
servatioar upon the right of reciprocal search, atel
took the opportunity of remarking that he regretted
America had tiot completed the good work she hail
begin.; but at the same time much credit web dne
to her for the alacrity with which she seized upra
the first ofiportuisity that presented for effectite:
the abolition, and for the still greater merit in esta-
blishing the practice as a crime., and calling it by
its proper name—piracy.
Mr. W. SMITH supported the motion.
Mr. WiLaaasoaca replied.
Sir B. FERGUSON said, that the Slave Trade 's-
eamed on at Bahia, where he had been twice, to
such an :amount, that he found that there were
20,000 souls brought to market, 12,000 of which
were generolly.purelsated for Spnni.h traders; the
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on each topics, fur which reason he supported the • though bil would Not support the adop ' . iiir;i: the different commercial interest of her several
trint . Owen's AM .. '. - •. ' ... I'7_./.!•! States, it was a difficult-matter for her Opera' Le-
The Marquis of LONDONDERRY thought that Sir I.lP:tonit' drawled the' a4opti. W.- gislature to 'women a strourtspinitin, yet she had.
there were great doubts whe,her Parliament ought Owens .' dem*,he dirt all projems'rk4iired from .done it, and amsed oo that traffic of infamy its
in accede to the motion. Of course such praise- nortliiirt; ittrtlntriniv. Partite'? a .Seritchtetto was a true denomination—piracy.—(Hear, hear, hear.)—
oorthy and liberal propnaitions were calculated to rara avis in term in the *wets of London ; now In fact America was willing to proceed farther than
t'at►tiaatrtheis of p,,,heateot ; hat he apre.. every street antialley bad a teacher and a preachec ourselves, and ruionfg
ita,liandid4cenalactitiedss laslews doeo:
hearetr ittititif not be safe for Parliament to from among that people, insomuch, that the.Saxim
,clared her abh
.....1.......5...... •5....i.......1.....;kinr. of deivrtni nine. tiu. blood of the country was in danger of being et:. iordingly. It oat gnitifvlnk to him to ob-