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fit el-01;14(0y, After what he had heard, however,
on loopy other ()cyanosis, f.om Miiiisters on the same
subject, he muse uodernotel Ore extent to which
their economy pas to Lio .ditiwirede ease as whit
prioeiple it was to be riterhollod. bafimea he yielded
zit
them any praise for their ' . 40, .above
all, be would oliect to hi*, arm any
.gnititude to 11inosters (he llitaglit atm-
eilleafly bound to do sob, ttersismillir Adana:
though there oils somethiege Of Alp Idad il, She
speech of the Noble NlofetYllt Illor pew light
which had broken in upon theetskitleatiteMmy, mid
.the resolutions dory were now sommieigly airbag to
take for the accomplishment of it. Thew ease was
very like that of Lord Littleton, the atithar of "Dia-
kues qr Me Deed," spew whose prerformutee Dr.
Ammo had flatmate/. " Here the Hob& Lord, M
the end of fifty years, begins to tell the world that
which the world hos fir fifty Years been *Mktg his '
Lordship." Emmen, hod beta urged mete and
aver again-.olio proper articles spun *Neil Is elir"
rise it hid beta ea freo..sgit liflodrd'4lo fa
to Am tbilfamelfr ire* bed Oka iffeesk'
and wow's or* light had breken in on them.ol
Two
years after the recomeneadatione of • Committee
*lnstituted by Ministers themselves to adopt eco-
I money, and Miciug uniformly rejected every proposal
of the kind up to that period. Ministers venue length
desirous of having recourse to economy. To that most
desirable object be would, notwithstanding, most
cheerfully subscribe. It was the first in import-
ance to the country. He was equally ready to
support any other measure which should be pro.
posed by them to relieve agriculture. Whether
any other measures were advisable for that purpose,
or whet they ought to be, he refereed himself fur the
time when the dascussion would be more fully gone
into. But if the principle of interference to give
relief to agriceltere, referred to in the Speech and
the Address referred to that measure, the know ledp
of which had transpired within the last Ste hours. be
Ibn:fleeted against the idea that such, measure could
afford any relief; or that item not, on the con-
trary, very much aggraidlli taistiug evil.
He alluded to site monvole •. ' had been
the subject of it pubis's**, stating, thet yes-
terday it had bees by the Noble
Earl at the head of the Treasury to issue Ex-
chequer bills for the purpose of relieving the
distresses of agriculture. If this could ever, an-
der any circumstances, be reodered into is mode of
relief, it could' riot be at • period like the prurient,
when roomy was abundant mod • security rare. :If,
then, Parliament dematided that good security
should be given, the answer was, that good.seees.
city was not to be bad from a people so distremed
as the agriculturists. If good security were to be
bad, not • banker in Eagland but would be glad
• *demo* them money. If tlis money were in-
, tended by Government to be atiesaced without
gm/ *eerily, it meet ies aft. bareikbood be lost.
mid the effeclowoold be • min greater depreciation
of arimekove than befolif.':-Airvir ittga *Mild
be have expected the Noble Earl Mmorite -at Isles
originated such a proposition ; most of all would he
have expected the opposition of the Noble Earl to
it—he who asserted last year his conviction that the
distress had mainly risen from the superabundance
of produce, which mast he checked by discou.
raging speculative cultivation. and so compelling
the suppl more strictly to accommodate the de-
mand. Sorely the Noble Earl would not now
wish to issue Government money for the encourage-
ment of that agriculture which he thought last
year to require distress and discouragement to
bring it down to what the country really required.
He was sure that no such measure ought to be es-
iwcted to be carried with success through that
House; for, though grounded as it was on 8 bad
principle, and yet basing an col iu view, which,
01100 good security, might make the appticatioo of
it not altogether objectionable, vet, without that
security, the measure could offer no reasonable
hope of relief. He had thought right to say thus
much on the distresses of the country—not to pre.
vent or anticipate the fullest and most open discus-
non of the subject, nor to diminish the force of
that conviction which now worked generally. that
to the diminution of the expenditure they must
eventually look for the fullest, the most effective,
and only relief which sonculture could hope for.
Adverting to the notice in the Speech of the un-
happy state of Ireland, he felt, in common with
every sensible and honest man, the deepest pain and
distress at the state which that country exhibited.
It was time to think of some means for an evil of
such magnitude. He praised Administration fur
the choice of the individual whom they had selected
to administer the affairs of Ireland. He believed
that there was • power and rigour in the mind of
that iudividual which would make his administration
useful and of the deepest importance to the couo-
try. He (Marquis Wellesley) possessed an anis
dully of mind which would search into the dimes'',
and discover, if any such there were, • sufficient
remedy—that he would alley the beats and minima-
ties which tore the country, sod perhaps in the cud
lay the grounds of a better political edifice. He
bad the greatest confidence its the wisdom and
talents of the Noble Marquis. But no powers
would be siifficieut to provide means any other than
merely palliative, uoless accompanied with • deter-
mination to enforce all the means necessary to re-
store the country to tranquillity. The state of Ire-
land was not attributable to one set of political
principles, or one particular mode of government.
A combination of circumstances had produced the
evil, which now required equally a combination of
remedies. lie was ready to admit much of what
had been sdratioed upon tbia subject by the Noble
Earl who had suably moved the Address. The dif-
ferences of laws, politics, unit religion, great as
they were among the causes of the evil, were far
frosts compri.iiig them all. He could not agree
with that branch of the Speech which adverted to
the commotion' iu Ireland, if it went no further
than to apply a coercive remedy to quelltheas. lie
was opposed to all those who felt any thisg of •
vulgar prejudice against that peopleo-es if

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the chanter, the so! emir /whiny of that
country..taust of necessity . wade:* a ems-
barbaroui race, prune to bee's& eta sea every b%M
occasion- in sedition :or rebellion. The ceases of
Irish sate ring tees :be more iiwleiviti'orie wart o/
not before they could fairly presents to sate the
retest* why Ireland eosin I conditiee se .44r Sts
free this or toy other entnnty.
-Ti* aisle of Shit
eoeatry might peressisly be bedstrithefairleo Hollis
is $ very abort *pare *en that tine; hue
et .it were brew's* ffieniard by (iesersontilli
orrpsoitioa, he truseall that there weeld ha sit
apple:ales for new penal Uwe, hot with a simellti
ether more !viand scethropseybet SNIP
dire.°llg Dew pewees were is he greeted le tffit
Irish geeerment, si.lve faired thas ill" were 116
moot, h• instal AM am •ie the ships at peat
emwshatiests aim* would the edited powers et Om
State be me* tarn to the people or helot d.-•
Re4lC looked see seem hope for massnrus af moso
. is the repeal of one griserally obsuutieue Sew
ssolefelir peel et thee; people. Jesegestl se the
• hi the Speech so the mated. Totters politic,.
anti eepecislitif•Tuckey and Greece, heotes 'Vita err
*Wiled with the explanation of the Nohk MOver.-or
In a contest between Christians and lafidel., or ill
other words, between Greeks and their,oppreseers'
these could be hut one feeling in every hear;
Christian heart. He perfectly agreed in the pro-
priety of the course taken her Ministers not to ex.-
ceed the boturdaries of.sheir dete,ao4.4l;tletthey
were not likely to benefit the Greet, its.
terferetice. At the same time he could set but real
a hope, sod he were a hypocrite if be ribald hide
it, that the result would secure the isdepeadeoee
and happioes, of the Greeks.
The tart of Liwzitroot. said that ha should nut
hove offered any remark on the Speech or Oh Adis
dress proposed, had it not been from a misapprehers.
mien entertained by the Noble Marquis as to the
Conductor Minister, 10 last year. Really he he
knew of any point in the Speech epee which
'seminal difference could be mid to exit* bet l
e
him and the Noble Mint:si.. While he wee niS,
however, he would make a remark or two on ihme
which had fallen from the Noble Marquis on the
reductions to the estsblishusents. The Noble
Marquis mode his itsterdent as if no reduce .
tion had been thought of by Minister, till this year.
Now in the course of the last year and the one pre-
testing. Ministers had effected reduetistua to the
eseoeut abets/cm one and two millions. In every
year since the peace reductions had been pointed
out by Ministers. but from the noting of the rale
they could only be very gradually effected. Now
'net to the extent of the redectieam be Could net of
creme undertake to say whethle or set, they sane-
led the Noble Marquis, perils* heltad better lest!
ihsk9lo4lla to be settled ativie wile when trie
essiasateetsies Lad ea the table, Mktg respect to
seethes Pert 4 the same wetter, oohed to
Rased egoism the insinustrislitifille iii!irtidilF.
the Homo so Mere. ill moil
2eP5Z071111.4,,d to should bolild ' them tree,
2etin
the details, and he pledgedlildstWillitt it would he
won, that had justice been dais tellity thing like a
full extent, those individuals arbeireMl new complain-
ing could have little disposition to- invoke it. As
to retrenchment, he was reedy to admit the neces.
site of looking into the state, sod observing whet
could be spared from the expenditure. If not, es
a matter of usefulness sad hecessity, he would
yield it es one of expedieuey. But he protested
against the supposition the es, such reductions
could give any essential relief so-the present distresses
of agriculture. These tette/fire might he right in
themselves—they might be demanded by thecir.
cumstances of ihe period to appease the distressed
anxiety of the people; bat it was idle to expect
they could affiAtl any direct relief to agriculture.
Referring' to that part of the Speech which
noticed the prosperity of commerce and menu-
&elate., the Noble Marquis said, that it only
gave him pleasure while viewing it as a source
of relief to agriculture. Certainly no view lot'
the various interests of society could be mere
anst•testuan.like than that which separated them,
and disconnected their dependence one on an-
other, and all together. No doubt agriculture
eight to be considered, however, as the first of the
general interests. Commerce and mannfactures
were also among the most important interests, and
the prosperity of these could not continue for elle
considerable time without imparting the effect of
their condition to agriculture. He would strongly
reprobate the views of those who wished to have
what they thought a sufficient price, which must, if
allowed; cause the destruction of commerce and me-
nufactares.•The Noble Marquis had thrown doubts
on'the validity of the reported prosperity of commerce
sod inaaufactaies. Speculation and a species of
mercantile" gambling had certainly arisen to a coo-
eiderable height, from the extraordinary nature cif
the troeseetions of the war. Commerce had now

taken more solid foundations. !Instr.
and •adventurous speculation had mode way ,t..,
moderste orders and secure payment. su that there
could be no doubt either of the increased prosperoty
of that class or of the soperhor sulichry and perma-
nency Of that *tab h which they we rest present acqu
in. fie next defended Ministers from the charge of
hiving proposed to lend the agriculturists five mil-
lions to be issued iii Exchequer bills for the retie
of their distresses. No such propoSition had beer,
made by him. The subject of agricultural
distress had been lately under' the moat serious
consideration of Government. and it had hem
thought that a meow might be devised for yielding
a temporary relief. A proposition to grant Ova:
relief. by something to be dune in the way of Ex.
chequer bills, had been made, and PArlisuient
might yet be called on to judge the efficacy rrt
it. There was nothing in this hand.: to the cittr-
mon policy of the Government daring the lay:
thirty years. Geturnilly the supply of grain would
be best tegulated by the demand. and any deb-
eieticy or superabundance would soon be obviated
in effect by that invariable regulation. But there
were additional circumstances which SOClDetilLti in.

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lettered. At the same time he took occasion to
-i-lillgct to the idea that the importatiou of grain
hi 11816 and 1817 had cruised all the dis-
tresses of agriculture. Why, if so, had the
distress gone on increasing in proportion to the
:diatom, of ties* from the importation? There
was at home s east increase of production. which
would better account for it. Ireland had in
Vie yeses imported seven millions sad • half
Sorters of grain of all kinds; in the lest three.
era of a year alone one million and a
quarters of all kinds. He had stated ut the
passing the Corn Bill, that Ireland would
benefited by it. The Government hid
11114•eatly issued Exchequer bills in relief of vise
lime branches of commerce affected by temporary
=lrand in every instance had the money
paid beck to the last shilliiig. The prin.
lipid might be wrong—the practice was found to be
411111111e1. Agriculture et present d.fferrd from them
emery else': they were in a condition to tirisside sec.,
whirr ...agriculture was not. The difference lay is,
Illmeaswirol arcurostatices, and not in the prilicipla,
4b promised very soon to produce to the House
fie-specific meager* proposed by Ministers. oho
salsa Noble Lord would be more at liberty to eamr,
JohalbslVlL He rime next to speak of the stairs,/
Atoka& In consequence of circumstances of dig
oilimgest necessity, the representations of whit*
lima the Irish Government he would lay that
Ai* row the table of the House, it was day
40.11116.* Ail Goiresoment to propose to Perkin.
used 'deo, Executive with edditioamet
Edrfloshed'down the disturbances. &cell Oa
• 411 r, %oppose only the term of the &silo
timistence, of those powers so that ow
saditiktverniKht lye frequently before the Hoots
solunnetelow doesims. • He corroborated the iserinaitio
oh the Illebbilllarq•isii• tee the lewdness end viper
weitslif ilidittidoetot: the bawl of:tiss 4411-Governer
imeqtrillgemelkitiprotirfitd Shit:the Noble, SOF
leis slll*ltilfry) would direct •Isie powerful iiii4lldp
did eat* ef o be; cause at the disease—that' hp
111.01**Idlos it.-to. tee bottom. He admitted the
eillatpliceted nature of the distresses. and ;WO
mengspeava4tekseyeriteole had begun, sani.thtispi.
. qiii>rWoopo. loos, not menifeirted until
.14stelattitiqii„ the .Knig. front Ireland. No ' • .
4tierm isksilLiOisspey.hod.eirer . been so joyfolly.uml.
‘diplositigersoted he,ltissubjects ; nay, so greidos,
•Sbe togo9l69bseille9; 91the people, mud iiii.cookillusg.
silm,ll9 liinifory lotoly received 4 letter bowie vier
deamwitmleeland, whose nainsliould be eut boil"
**took Soo th. Atruth if it, were to ,be. kutneu. tri
admit . . " Notwithstanding all the that orb.
Awl, Yet he . south, it' the King were now. ,toistee4d
.Ised , is/ bsoweck he woulsl be received
.with
the. mom • warmth ,pf sittschoseut as before." A
• iseeb mien be learned from the accounts of tee.
~ps pees- „Jo . , el{, the seditious and iirflinunstory'
illtecleol4o%; 4 VI. nuneeksble
.tu . observe. that
VA the tomppeotioa..of jhrkr imagined grievances,
-*berg errOw4o/.9 .word reflecting on, the. Govern-
Amen t.... sow 1 if: peso iotioi this ci rc uin static ft to
118041-tbilaisidil V' their Lordships into examination,
.41Wee• i 0 itidid prt existiu some other pert of the
social frootiostsslwre was no symptom of it disc"-
Pvtrablariebtlegidirect relation bstween the governors
~410.1 geget99ol.
.'fie intuition of that coputry
yens so,b4weir other-s.hati been so forages, and
,reart, 144upted, coutume so ,for a long time to.
megisie, *Op be agreed with the Noble Lord, antitimphionArlsiolF,;9, sok , kir fresh imwerph is aid
.0.0 Pieqiiiiiti. lk AN oolderiOrifAi .I-Rbogirelmi
.4orisosol TWO A bittAcr not. atteeallefY• ?owl
4P004.1414`001118•1140,41 nalelY necessary ne,puedowil.
• Piallitatte;;Mtd, enable like.,Governruent quietly to'.
eSilarrh.theiatif 40 tlitehatAittad it Pt , timg wool,' bum
tegeoffhPoPiid, in .°1111".,01(1•APIFA,Wallug e4di
irjepteot ikin.d. .. •••• I, • 'Oll b,'l6{o •s• '..
1..4.,Tia. Earl of • 94.1hirrou giohogf 4, my it
,fe
Wiwi% in which hp‘periposed locos; no himself to.
~reetr,kw observationew, I.lteloge he edaerted to. gt
caste of Ireland. be miehrti ensp4,.., to refleeo)
r4jse reported propneithmenof tilmellablp,grefkfor OW.
.eilsg Exchequer hills, teseelippingeigplieff4,444 ,
• .teisiencl, the Noble Id *plias fres- itirt,llit eMIZ Vet
:lobo had received that sinforoottiost.. iirle,naa par •
oceilsoly anxious to retweerthetiki to the. tioble Misr
74uis for his pledge to Artily, the state. of Irellp
. weedily before 0104141 W. • He had pledged him
. calf to do it last year, esti or oytd halve kept hia word.
but woe much better vilobeti that his Noble Ftientl
keel undertaken it. Ile had feewwerneil Ministereie
10161( eion danger of neglect's. thestate of Irelnipl,
and ootrelieviogic its time. liggcongprrsd to th_9o...
ain't entertained atter greiteePOWN/8114 the Ntillt•
erflterquis now geveming,leelisqd. *l,e pot only,ems,
!roamed all the wirdoewer cied•PO4,3l* hut,h4tt 'I
_.__lrd
restlind capable of inietnif IMectstiaus He ow 4
loillie conviction that leetuud had not, been benefite
•by her moon with England. She
.dud seffere
• wailer every Goveronerast stare, that •Partatot;
the [Juke of Bedfoed excepted. He 'gent repeet
ed his thsoks to his, feieud, the Noble literqpi
for his intended motiowiew,the State 4 44oteud..
The Address ass thee) (serried wlthOWll•thviaietir
el," • The Esrl of Livearook moved tluvrtoit Seat
•eamol orders. end the oppniausent tsirsghgloir) €4
flishesbiiry es Cheirowsot of the Cealiao44ire.-7Thit
osettions weft all agreed to..
The Earl of Lasater:to& laid cOpies.. of cons;
anniiicatiorts from the Mrsiquis Well: no, Il
state of Irelitud, Relate the Mope,* WM
-tiered to be printed.--Adinnuind,,,,Noo, 4„,. ,
NOUSE OF COMmat44.4)9spipecruelespr b. '
At a quarter before"Peig yell* 6PEAKItiI
entered toe House and taqk sir, econsider-'
able number of Memberp'beitik then Prewor.• ' '
A few minutes after' osclick. Sir ThblitiM.
Tyrwhitt. Usher of the k nod. sAkarkr. sod.
summoned the Nous! at' Ow %tail ter** to tattier
the House of Peers. to listar his Majesty'* Speeches
The Speaker, attended b)'snost of -the Menihers"
then present, proceeded to the otherilduse. After'
sin absence of about half an hour', 'the" 'Right Hon.
Gentlernao returned, and without any 'communica-
tion or delay, passed through the • House by the
dour at the back of the Choir leashil to his own
. residence.
There was a very full attend Members;
among the eriliest we remarked -c' ‘4l".'
Mr. Home, Sir Francis Burdett, MC MAW Wv. Cur-
ves., Lord Mimic Ni-. timbre Riee, IJN W. Flisearaid,
. SW John Newport, Mr. Greoleb,, Sir .11.461111. Mai 1..'

Lou, Mr. Hobilusio, Sic. ea.'f hi& .
NEW WRITS. .. -
A few minutes belore fuur u'ilock tEe

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re-entered, sad having stomped the Chair, iamse.
diately acquainted the House. that, in pursuance
of the Act in that case p►ovided, he had, during
the recess, loved his warrant to the Clerk of the
Crown to sake out new writs for the following

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Jolts Foster, rented • Peer; for the Queen's Cutlery. to lila
room of the Right Hos. William Wellesley Pole, crested a
Peer ; for the Comity of Antrim, is the room of the Right
Hun. Francis Seymour; for the University of Oxford, is the
room of Sir Wm. Scott, crested • Peer; fur the County of
Estop, In the room of John Cotes, Esq.; and for thugs
Lynn, in the room of Sir Marlin Folkes, Hut.
Several new Members were then sworn, amongst
whom we remarked Mr. Helier, the new Member
fur the Lloirersity of Oxford.
Ti,„ hdluaiuy writs were then moved for :
Pot the florungb of Britain, in the room of Sir John Ni.
AO, who has 'accepted the Chiltern Hundreds; for Mont.
gamer; shire, is the room of she Right Hon. Charles Walk'.
Wynn, who has accepted the office of the President of the
Boar 4 of Control ; for the Borough of St. Moires, in the
room of Dr. Plollimme; for the University of Oxford, In the
room of she Right Hon. Robert Peel, who has accepted tbe
*Mee of Xerretsry of State for the Hume Department; fur
the Borough of West Lou., in the room of Henry Goa Wore,
Esq. appointed Secretary of Stair in Irelaud ; fur Cartisrvon,
in the ruom of the Hun. Sir Charles Paget; Anil for Dra-
ftier, in the room of William Keith Dimes*, Etq.
The Sexxcatt Oleo informed the House, that
tit Clerk bud prep:tied the usual Outlawry Bill.
CORONATION.
The Hort. GREY BLNNETT oaiti, that he had AR
wish to inteifeie with tie ()retina/ business, but Iti
i ,
yratort to take the sarhrst opportunity of informing
the 110u.4 that it was his intention, ns soon as a
heard the ay.; mold on tl,e subject; of supplies, t•
call the att.-139,0f the House to the expense 4.
ilelidnag the 4510„:oroutittini. s
.:
S•r It. If imp gave tiOtiecohat it was his i‘w
Ariusitni to moire on the 13,h ipalant for all the C'cite
rtationtlence between his Royalliieliiiers the Duke
ref York. Lord Solmoutli, 'rind himself, iii dirt
toiiiiths of September and October last, respectink
~us duoptissal 'lrma) the army : and he wished fis
%pow fo t the Noble Marquis (Londonderi4)
...., ...,,..„. oppose the production of those}
+epees.
~ so, he should feel it his duty, when fie
ode his tuopoit, to open the whole business to that
kiicuwet„ie
wi
j:.
The Virsin4ii of LONDONDERRY regretted 'heti
Air the etipy,ertience of the Hon. and Gelling
IGentlernaii he was not prepared tp say whether he
siltiitilil o:
.4tpuse the roductiose 4Ow
the papers
,
-feired to. '
Sir IL WaLsom sat , it was nut for his persouil
convenience but for the convenience of the Hour
,lil us dc, inquiry.
REFORW.
' I,DirtItIINOTON gave nonce, in the abseneelp(s
his Mlle Friend (Lord John Russell), that
tE
should on sit early day submit a ntution to t
14011sie Oar a more efficient repr:sentation of ,
l*P.QPie..;7tql.sw)
ADDRESS.
• The SlPlNkethawing read the Speech froth the
Cbasi-2'•-' i'"'' •'
Thrillfglartitosikre 'CiriCrtise to move an
hum e'Addrkte• to his liioj,kty, exprersing the
mini' ratefill thanks of the House for the Speech
they ad just then heard. He wopld sioldetain,
themiritli any apology for offering himself to dam •
node,- for he coneeived he would best consulrtheir
' wishes by proceeding at once to the points to which
he meant to cull their attention. Of their kind ins
dulgetire be most good in nerd.—( 9*, beet+—
U,posa the first point in the Speech thi* RAM
"but ofei opinion, for it must 'be it lidtitqeydriltly-
'lloioti to all to learn that his Majesty 'Wil) t•oh-
ltilues'io receive the most friendly' assurances 6dtu
'eft 'We Phreign Power, of Europe. Since the Par-
' 114444114 last assembled iliffereoces had rehire of
V' saiiit lerieusi nature between Raul, aed thei
'ettillitee 'Parte. The House would 'not ''expl.4
14801:litist him upon a question of such AIWA.,
'arlaiderTflait a simple statement of the fati'i
' ill kk Emit' ' itia 6lway* been considered•an
illvo4Ser,i alit:Poi course any hostilitieslti whith Ale
itiould etigaie most ueeesoartly 'AA 'the saes(
In i ereliV if' Valise, ea: a ken dilftressets ' 'of 'Vat
n'isi usleli ti it :eat alietlyi:itoposaibte io Wl' *Hire
e
the evil ih'esto4 "It" nits,t then be tit source of
•sotisfr lld'toliartillki, caber rowert hod Interfered
to comp i ttiort;dtriiierett;' and that ieastitiabla
liiipeilitiAll q' eitiiiiied Ale negociatiotis awls,
'provericeVtiffol.' .Theae 'tefleetious naturally lel
him 1 'iiiii fifte'llie ' MO and intuited station i
'ishich Ile AIM& ntistr• Stood: ' tills period .or -the
must ~,, Irittela dance itildlought for be '
'own indijWiiilleka4,' and ' ' n'tifeattntal hi itelOr
h.dependedill -to' *fee.' dOil4he voici'lbrtl*
' Parliuoipigkifitiis-4outi tr. io'llirtekt urea lifo um.
dance
'that vilibe alltitTclNi heard osfeeirdiatant the'ciiiikeeb ,
He 'ilOvr faille to the shoed filiixtin the Speech
• fannietflately' 'a ftii'• We' deli* 4 slur life much.:
•t'everetl'endlrMenied'SiMilg ,"ahen the per sad
`arrives!n* hli MajestftiesAkviditth frouiliti"te.
tirentent; liar' first 'moisiderlktletY is TO rake litin-
self persomilly- acqisainted with 104 "Tres
laiiil wag the first pait of his' in- Woe. 6" dr.
voile tile esithusiestu which:l;re} td 'the 1 Val of
the Iftst Monarch of the Home' oT Brunswick i 0
dirt etittntry would be vain l'oetrim toittentpk.
'Th4 loyihr and etteitiateet eehitti West iltadiTeste*
by all chairs of his Majesty's subjects upon Alit '
r , •
Orplpi 111 l was seldom equalled. never Certainly sue.
' ittiatedii Aid never would be effaced Crain-the recobr
*keel% drihe illustrious persta phi, win the ohjeat
1101'1 ti lelittualasm.— (Hear, Ili )L 4
hots al"'so elbod overspread thitercieliert:* Out. -
• - ) lio
' ,rages' re Ira committed, which aflerwrids 'led to
:i.itysteMatieviolation of the laws.. From the dq-
tription of persons engaged In the evils that 1144
• ;*o produced; it would appear that there disturbs
*tiers originated eutoely from local causes, much•
:!ront.indivinoal mismanagement, end distress in a
'most einiiient degree. One observation wises from'
' ibis stitetnesit which is must consolatory, that these'
' clistarbanceS are wholly unconnected with a religiose
. or polifiticit feeling. The [louse had been lotion-tied
that every" bet would be made out the part of his
Majesty its .oppress these disturbances, rod he had
• Pp doubt ihat they would co-oi•erate to curry the
Oltenia' diepopitious of his Majesty into effect.—
Wi(li respect' to the revenue and expenditure of ibe
'klo!iiiiry,'• the !Tease were nu doubt happy to learn'
Alia (4
.strictest attention would be paid to ens.
fidelity... a subject tinportaut at all tither, but most
tinPrrp,tire in times like the present. In pursuance •
of tliis principle, u considerable reduction had been
tifeCted to the naval mid military establishments.

It wet

of the
Hon.

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treat the subject so much more iy
He wished sincerely he could ',aid the woe lam-
guage with respect to the agricultural iu►erestl;
but unfortunately that branch of national prospers..

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ty laboured under the deepest distress: and he was
sure there was no object in which Ministers would
mitre willingly co-operate than in an endeavour to
tilleviete the distresses of the agriculturist. Let
theist therefore hope that a close investigatiou would
point out some means to arrest the evil. The
House should compare the state of the country now
wilh that of former years, and they would find a
great increase in the revenue. Since 1820 a great
in cc had taken place in the Excise. A consi-
derable increase had also appeared in the Irish re-
venue. And with the knowledge that within the
lest two years the sources of national prosperity had
improved, it might not be considered too sanguine
a hope that some progressive improvement would
reach the agriculturist. There was but one point
more with which he had to trouble the House, end
that was the importance. and necessity of maintain-
ing public credit. It was that credit which lied
elevated this country to the lofty eminence upon
stitch she was placed at present, and it was hardly
necessary to say how essential it must be to the for-
ture interests end honour id' the country to preserve
their faith inviolate.—(Hear, hear.)—He bed to re-
torts Ina thanks to the House for their kind lawn-
lion, and begged leave to propose the Address.—
(Hear, hear.)
The Address was then read, which was, as usual,
an echo of the Speech.
Mr. Duitcoatae said, that in rising to second
the Address the House had jut,: heard, be felt usual
strongly the siecessity of entreating the indulgence
of the Houstiodit merely on account of his inex-
perience in addressing a public assembly. but from
the conviction of his own inability to discharge the
du,37 wkch had devolved upon him.—(Hear, hear.)
Arid should tiny observations fall from him, either
irrelevant to the subject, or likely to interrupt
that unanimity which was so desirable, he begged
the House would attribute it to his inexperience.
On the first point in his Majesty% Speech there
could he but one opinion ; for whoever had oh-
'served the horrors and disasters of war, and consi-
*tiered the necessary sacrifices that must be made,
even should the result prove successful, must be
deeply imp d with fee superior advantage and
blessings of peace. His Mejesry must of course
fikei a deep interest in any endeavour to preserve
"Nee tranquillity of Europe, and it *es, no doubt,
ktinlfying to the House to learn that the nisfortu-
%cite differences Between Russia and the Ottoman
-11Kirte were likely to come Id' °satisfactory conclu-
'eion. The unfortunate eituetion of Ireland most
illie to the House a *abject of the deepest concern.
The Visit of his Majesty to that countryovhich had
hien received in the most enthusteatic manner, aid
under circtimstancles the mint auspicious, was ua•
happily succeeded by a most daring arid systematic
-violation of the laws. If in the midst of theks
enormities any consolatiou could be found, it would
be derived from the reflexien that Three disturb«
ances lied originated from local causer, rather then
from any general uppusition to the dotitin ttttt of the
laws. It must be a matter of greet satisfaction to
learn, that a progressive improvedient had been
'made in the revenue, which teiehkd his Majesty to
effect a considerable I.eduetiotalle the naval and mill.
tery estiblishrnetitv. Theiriselt 1'6°14 rejoiced to,
Itittl that' the menufacturintilintetesta heri4blisits
,greatly improved: 'He conld it'd, however; ofeit to
'hate, whet gave him great concern, that aliticultdts
Was far I rote being ii a flourothinteondition; arid go
intimately conflicted with the roelieritr of fhe
Country was the prosperity of ' the' egrieelturief
that lie lied no doubt his Alsjeity% Militate',
would anxiously embrace any melodic to afford it
' protection. He knew that some were of opinion
that nothing could be done without an im-ne-
(hate reductinti of taxatiott.-..-(firer. hear.)—
He was one of these that weiuld not be backward
to embrace any phut of ameliorator'. Before he
set 'brate most congratulate the House that the
spirit of disaffection which had keen so prevalent
some time since in some parts of the country, had
subsided. But while he Said that, he could not
uvoid stating that lie mnst'efk mu indifFereut and
superficial observer of pesvinievents that could be
ignorant that there were still persona reedy upon
every occasion to-make attacks upon the Constitu-
tion, and to bring into contempt the constituted
• authorities of the realm.—(Heuer, hear.)—Some
-from their own theoretical opinions of amendment,
and others from a natural antipathy in social order,
and a love of confusion; but the Constitution of
this contitty stood upon a firm sod hotting roped's-
tion ; it was SO beautifully connected in all its
parts, and so admirably adapted to promote the
happiness of the people, that the storms with which
it had been threatened increased its strength, end
that it had becoMe the et:lmitation of the world fur
its stability and grindtur.—(Cheerci
The Addles. was then read 'Filen the Chair, after
which— a. 't, te
Sir F. Buacare rose to propose en Amendment.
He observed that he did not feel himstlf called
Upon to make any observations on the speeches of
the two preceding Members. IltitiCy did not afford
much matter for tenement. :4Vetthe Hint. Mena-
' ber who had seconded the Addieei. had thrown out
some thiege which did nut appear to be called for,
and had been pleased to end with a topic totally
contrary to the Speech from the Throne, as well
as to the tone of the Address which the [loose was
called upon to vote. The Hun.' Member had as-
serted that there were people in this ecnntry who
were anxiously looking for the subversion of the
Constitution, end the devirtiction of our institu-
tions. He thought that ibis was a most unfortu-
nate topic at the present time, when it oda generally
agreed that never was there a period when a better
temper and feeling preveiled throeghout the coun-
try—(hear, Bear)—and when the Hole. Member
himself had directly stated that fact, and when it
in truth funned a very good reason fur rtducitig the
great expense attendant on our large military force.
—(1-fear, hear.)—With respect to oar foreign puha -.
tics, he should pass diem over, thinking them utte'l
important indeed, whet' compered will, the other'
for more pressing interest's that demanded the '
. attention of Parliament. As to Turkey, he livid

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say or it, excepting that 41‘1111 aiatete•
ly wished that Greece
ing herself from its Stilly. ItTZ;.
ly did he hope for sums, tO the glo-
ies of that noble and classic lond.—
.)—.'or undoubtedly he thoughtit would
redound to the benefit of the whole Chrie.tiati world
if ats independent state could be formed throogh
the exertions of that long-injured anti. cruelly-op-
Vented ustion.—(Much cheering).—His ottiort to
rising was merely to nrove an amendineut of great
importance in every point of vie.., though com-
prised in a few words. In this course be hoped he
was not actuated by any thing like disrespeet to
the Throne. No
minostivenr:.,l the c
141 , be oninorter,iryde: wasirou t
s ofo
atoiduig it. fin n
enable himself and the House to give that due at-
trillion to the Speech delivered by his Majesty,
which.io the existing circumstances of the country,
was so strongly due to it. In former evil better
parliamentary times it was the custom to deliberate
on the communication of his Majesty before resoN'e
ing oo an Eimer to it. To bring back this custon,
was the object of his amendment, and he useaut to
propose that the consideration of the Speech should
be put off till a future day. The. Address voted by
the House in answer to the Speech from the Throne,
aught to contain a fair exposition of the state of the
country, and of their deliberately-formed optimum
011 the topics which it comprehended ; but accord-
ing to the modern practice this was impossible—
Iffeer.)—Now they were reclaimd to mnke up their
wends' at once mi a variety of subjects the most
weighty and important. But m former tones the
bilge was different : it was first diseensed with'
about the tome of the Revolution,but even then
sod long after a courtesy was observed tower& the
Members of the •Hoese in regard to the Speer'',
which attained the desired end by reading at the
Cork Pit over sight to all the Members who chose
to attend, the Speedo which was to come from the
sTliroue the- fellorring day. Its contents became
thus geurrol/y known, and appeared la the evening
papers previous to its delivery. The Members of
the House 1 a 4. thee an opportunity of seeing,
examiuine, weighing, And making up their minds
ou what it coniaisad, before being called on
to express an opinion, en them. This cpurtesy had
not been wholly withdrawn till a very late period,
and it was to be Ismented that it had pot been code;
tinued.
ifor himself. his own mind was not tepee,
elms enough to take in, reason oil, and conclude=
on all the tops }a, 91.4 Speech which wsa inetelft
read. He had no trifles' beforehand of conjeciuriugt
what the Speech would consist of. The come-A
quence was. that the House was now called upon)
to agree to sit Addreti-either of mere compliment,l
and not et all supposed to be expressive of their'
real opinions, Or dee' entrapped to give its appro-
bation to what did not de;selose it under the very in--
siting sines of respect to the Throneond unanimity
'For'For
these reasons he I memt to propose, as a
limendment to the Address. that the House do tak
lids Majesty's Speech into consideration the day.
iefter ici•morrow. He had as yet heard no full and'
loatiefactory statement of the detentes of the country.
~The country was labouring ceder disareseing griev-
ances—he did not merely mean agricultural or
commeicial suffeeiagre.hut grievances parasamant i
ecoinideration to auy such: violativiss of the con.
tentative's' rights of the subject grow and out-
stageous—never inquired into, far less redressed.
tW .ith respect tothe (heiresses of the agriculturist,
he thought that Ministers ought not uaerely to say
letlset they felt for theiri,ood make gesserel promises
of economy ; he thog,glit they wag bound, to
sititate the rusturx,sed,exiera of the retrenchments'
114.1 had in, coutettipistion. The Grst §pttclo de-t
~Ity,ered by bas hike Mideoty Mid held out a prumite of
I 1 algid economy ; not two opiate could kire selected'
prom Iris reiKto.to which it was omitted, and yet how
rarely was it materially put in praclife ? The
House had a right to inure than e mere promise of
this rosture. tt ought to be pointed on! where and
of what sort the retrenchment was to be. But not
only was this not door., but the Speech contained
very little tcr the satisfaction of the subject. No
hint was given of a reduction of the most enormous
extent of the Civil List—(Hear, beer)—re source of
retrenchment so obvious.—(Cheers.)At the time
• when Ministers were making experiments and play-
, ing tricks—(Laughter)—with our currency, they
made additions to all the charges of the Civil Litt,
and incanted the salaries and allowances of all the
plowmen and officers of the Government. no thd
ground that the currericy was deprecated, and on
I that ground alone. Juggling with the currency, they
then enlarged the Civil List, to be, as they alleged.
suitable to the great dignity of the Throne. Lately
I they all at mice restored a metallic currencv, but
I' not one word then of lowering the talaties which
had been raised expressly with • merle meet the
I•former depreciation..--(Repeated cheery.) ..This
•aliewed a most unfeeling disregard to the public
thstresses. (Jr really wonoereil that so many No.
ble Lords and Hon. Gentlemen had nut been
ashamed to bring in a Bill which put su much
money in their owe pockets—(Laughter)—at that
tine, when so much bad been mid about the dis-
tresses of the country, and the insolvency 0f the
Bank—tt lied been pointed out to Ministers what
weals! indeed take piece. He had never doubted
whether the Bank would be able to pay in specie.
;He knew the cpsestion was not that, whether the
country would be able to bear the change; said h 5
declared that it was monstrous to adopt measures
which affected the interests of every family in the
cou wry. without accompanying them with the,
precautions and safeguards which were so in-
dispensably necessary. If the men who directed
• the means of the country were nut aware of
the consequences of this step they were incapable
of their situation.—(Hear, hear.)-11 they were
• aware of them. sod riotwitlistanding took no pre-
cautions against them. be asserted that they weir
uueurthy of it. To it may be imputed the whole
dist of the country ; that it was most anisehiev.
taus in its operation he had not tile least doubt. He
had expected to hear that which was time most pr..
'Murat and present% subject, the state of Ireland,
noticed in the Speech.—(Hear. hear.)—lt wet saw
',Duthie to look at the condition of that country,
to observe the state of detperstion into which that
tine nation was drive 9, without perecivirig that it
demanded other remedies than thus, which had
been aninnutictd, that something else ought to have
• been held out to it than the sword and the duo-
germ. There was u certain degree of misery and
oppression which tt was not iu human ordure to eu-

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44re; it preferred death to such an esidettea, sok
fits was the state of • large portion of the Iff
of Ireland. Such were the effects of the Union; but'
the Noble Lord (the Marquis of Londonderry)
tell Them that this was the effect of a traiisition,-itt
he told them that the sufferings r.f the empire at
large were brought shout by a traredtion from •ar
la pe„re, meat I—flow had the peasantry and the
gent letnen of Ireland been cajoled by that mea,ure
It was a paper Uuiou—a Uniuu which did not owe,
but he leareJ would cause a separation. It was a
Uoion on parchment. Nat one of the giiod cord,_
quenera had followed from it to Ireland by which
rho w.a duped at the time. Upon this important
paint st was quite obvious that something was res'
emery to be done without delay, aid equally ob:
pious that conciliation must be had recourse to,
as well as force. The Irish people had gri, :
once* of long standing to complain of; they
long suffered a penance on the exercise of their
in a deprivation of their civil rights
(Hear, (sear.)—The removal of this watt pronto/
them at the tone of the Uuion, hot is still teetataeu
hear.)—The neat evil in Ireland was the
manner and mode of the tithe system, sod it must
in some way or other be modified. There sa.
another which had occurred *loge the Union, ‘ii,„
the year 1782 ; and in 1782 I t it 1w observed
what the state of Ireland was. Tory had then
resident represemstion—an org-,.1 by which their
gricvances could be expressed to them own Path s-
we ist —mud in 1782 they had a surplus of revenge,
with their own (mil judging theta by what had
occurred since), their calumniatedPitimuseni;
that Parliator id, whose etirruptions had cow
to such a height that the whole country ers.
glad to get ;id of it, managed the &weer.
of Ireland in such a manner that in the tear
MY there was above yr milli rn of revenue ii.
their treasury over and above all the expenses ci
the year; but it sooti become involved in debt.
All the evils under which Ireland now groaned aion
be traced to mismanagement : with • country pia.
seeping almost all the natural arlsatibiges which
Heaven could bestow. with a populatieu ingeuitho.
mechanical, and laborious (for altnost ell the laud
labour in this country was done by Irish labourers,
who came such a length or way, and sometime.

wills great danger ire search of it, and it was
a mistake to call them au idle people)—(heart_
its inhabitants were doomed to uneeasiing discuss-
teed and dissention. But there was nothing
the character of the people to account for this -:-
.11 was we who had burdened- -the peonies( helm...
It was said that the corruption of this cotton,-
was purity itself compared to that of Ireland.
resources were all frittered away in jobs and
lotion, yet. under pretence of a revenue, a cm.
war was carried on --agassost arliat ? the dsatillatiou
of sehi•kry ! The lion. Borcuet then alluded to the
Rev. Mr. Chichester's Work, on the glitiep' Lies 6.••
in the stroci:its commintd 14. hernia ..
.Officers against the imakingry idenpled,istwhickhe•
declared any one ',Addams • fertile source of pep.-
lar heart-hurnings. The state of the Excise Lunt
therefore, formed another ribbjert of ceased/invite,.
Force and restrictions could &mower no end but that
of stirring the unfortunate people to opposition sad
retalistioa. Not a word bad been said tu'the Speech
respecting Scotland. .But could on! Man al Ma
that mutton had no cause Of discontent ? 'nervosa-
oue most monstrous grievance they felt. Hey the
Hon. Baronet described in &tail the evil come.•
pumices of the sloe of the Scotch burghs, stshug
that he bad not an:sported the Petitions ineselllol
• on •fitrater (*coition' on that subject by Lord A.
Hamilton. leot the people of Seutlead !should ie.-
glue that their complains had been negatived
because lie lark hartin them.--( A laugh._;,-
But these petitioners were piety totstakra If trey,
thought a riturdy was to be rditained from a Mak
of Cosmoss constituted as it now was. All the
grievances of. the eubutry might he traced to sin
source, the undue itifirenee of Ministers is Mt
House of Comunons.--(liesr.)--They might be
truly called visiouttries who expected economical,
reform finny this House of Commons. Sorb per-
sons looked to gather grapes dun" or figs off
this House was reformed there
would be 110 CCOIIOOIIC3I relief, audthey •bridesired
economic.' reform Irom the present Houses!' COM.
minis were putting the cart before the horse. la
fact there was now but one distiuctini of partiesia
the country, reformi,ts and corruptionitts. It win
a ibmig distinction. lie was aware of the pot
and beneficial exertium made by the Member for
Aberdeen (Mr. flume). and he joined with the
whole country in yielding, him the praise au jostl
his due:
New ego detrahrre
fiterturem capiti mull. cum laude tortuous."
He would not detract one iota from she encomiums
his efforts had earned. But all that he bud dime
was to expose corruption in detail—to detect
shew to the country many particulars of that pro-
digal nod wasteful expenilkure which was lint cre-
dited when asserted generally; and by that means
he was the great practical reformer of the dap--
After further enforcing the necessity of reform, the
Hon. Baronet said, that haul not that questions brit.
Put into the bands of the Noble Lord below ha
(Lord Ebriugtati), it was his intention to mole*
with a notice of bringiug it forward. Like the elu?
Homan who ended his speeches by replotting thu:
Carthage ought to be der-mired, he should altiao
sav, and he now said, that this II -use ougbe
reformed. The Illon. Bard.urt clo.enl a few funs
remarks by moving, as an sinerideseur, oat ft.,.
coosideration of his fillijesto's Speech Le poopine t•
till the day after to-morrow.
Mr. liostionsa. in seconding the ameodatent.
insisted ou the reasons derived Gatti ancient user.
and stated art instance in the reign of Waste
where the King's Speech received three days' we-
sideratioM before lolly thing was done in the Hi""'
concerning it. Ile had heard of r ductioos, bat
he knew eothisog of them except by the Gareite.
and he uriderstoed that one linedred fresh
commissions burl been granted mere the last Session.
of Parliament, whsch was very unlike an natant.,
to bring the military establishment to a loner seal(
And alter thus, was the House blindly to Epee le
an Address without knowing what practical MCI'
were to be taken afterward.? He thought it 1
!poor compliment so his Majesty that he tflo,
never to be addreseed by the House bet wilt'
precipitancy. At this time of day it was pp;
tunic to cease making the Address a mere Celia •
the Speech. No time eras so good as the pica"

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is most gtalitying to And that the ✓eight which Mike to say
pressed so heavily on the manufacturing into• .ly itnd heartily
had hero considerably diminished. That part in enisucipaiii
he subject, however, he should leave to Isis Most anziouol;
. Friend who would follow him, who would 'ions woggle
the suhiect so much more ably than lie could. (Clirers.)—Fo