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)IN. VA LME R.

Mr. BANcr.i. after statue preilitory nbeercation,

ruoved, '6 That the dricuulents pre...erste:li cni the
part of Mr. Painter should he sent to a Couitnittztr,
and be then reported thereon:.
After a variety of observatlons from several
Members, the motion was then te,,,rectl to.
Mr. ticottys N SPIT tar moved 14 Ka eveount
of sinus paid t• the Recetier-Gent ral of enunt:•-<,
on (Lies paid in lieu of personal renice, accordlng
40 the statute of the 47th of the prwrzut

outs i COrNCIL.
Mr. TIERNEY felt it his duty to press the Order
of the pay for the heisrinr, the Petitioners with
respect to the Orders is Council.
After a very desultory conversation between Lord
Calrevitaitesu, Mr. TIMMY, Sir CHIRLE:t
PRICE. Ni. W CNDRANI. 1.0E.1 HENRY PETTY, uud
WHICUREAU, iu which it was contended by
the two last !Members, that the House, for the
sake of example, should, in the most mitigated
usanuer, convince the petitioners of the necessity of
attending to the gnome:is of the House,
The OP &AKER, thus. called upon, stated to the
, House the due line of proceeding, in order to en-
force the attendance of witnesses. The question
was. however, set at rest by the Serjeant at Anus
aunouncihg that the witnesses were in atendance.
The House thet► went into a Committee on the
Petitions against the Orders in Council, when four
witnesses were examined, viz.—Mr. 3lollinge, Mr.
Bursnester, Mr. Alewyntie, and Mr. S. Rucker.
Upon the House resuming, leave was given to
sit again upon Thursday neat.—Adjourned.

As a very imperfect report of what was stated by
Sir J. Iltertscxx, in the debate, on Wednesday,
appeared in our facer of yesterday, we think it ,
our duty to give the following corrected statement
of what was said by the Honourable Member, iu
supporting the question :
Sir Joel Ilteristto observed, that as a Noble
Lord near him had been'the only speaker who had,
as yet, in the course of the debate, expressed his
apprehension of the danger of the proposed con-
cessions in favour of the Catholics, he trusted
his Lordship's apprehensions would be greatly re-
lieved by edverting to the numerous authorities
which had been cited iu favour of their prin-
ciples, and more especially such as had been given
by mbst distinguished Prelates of the Establish-
ment. Sir J. Hippistey then quoted a passage
from the Bishop of Liam:lairs preface to his va-
luable Theological Collection —" The ruling
powers, in Pout:Rant Mid Catholic States," says his
Lordship, " begin, at len, is, every where to per-
ceive, that an tutiformi. • sentiment, in matters
of religion, is a cit....11,104.311.x impossible to be ob-
tained. They percetie too, that a diversity of re-
ligious opinions may subsist among the subjects of
the came state, without endangering the common-
weul ; and they logits to think it reasonable, that
no ma* shoul4 he abridged in the exercise of na-
tural rights, on the store of religion."—The
late Biskop of St. Asaph, iu the Debate on the
Catholic petition, in 1803 i observed, "That lie
did not hold that there was any thing in the Roman
Catholic religion at variance aith the principles
of loyalty—or that any Roman Catholic of the
present day thought himself at liberty not to keep
faith with heretics—not bound by his oaths to a
Protestant Government—or that the Pope can re-
lease hiori limn the obligation of his oath of allegi-
slice to his Sovereign." The Bishop of Norwich
also, in his Charge in 1806, speaking of the
Catholics, says, most justly, if That their
conduct, and the unequivocal declarations made
by them, in a variety of publications, are strong-
ly expressive of their total disapprobation of com-
pulsion in religion. And that it would be very
unfair to involve in the guilt of the miw'uided„ sea-
iota of. former days, a body of men ore far different
description, to whom it is our duty, and should be
our inclinatinu, to *hew every mark of benevolence,
beth as brethren, awl as deserving fellow-subjects."
Sir J. H. then observed, that lie hod, by that day's
post, received, and he believed that the blembers
of that House had in general received, copies of
an anouynious publication, injuriously reflecting
on the character and conduct of Doctor Milner,
who, inn filmier debate, had also been as injuri-
ously attirked by a Learned Member of that
House, oa account of his work, iatituled, The
Case of Conscience. Doctor Milner had been
fully *indicated, on the former occasion, by an
Honourable and Learned Member (Dr. Lawrence) ;
and on the present, Sir J. 11. contended, it was not
less a debt of justice due to Dr. Milner himself,
but .also to the Roman Catholic Titular Metropo-
litans of Ireland, to examine how far the charges
against him were entitled to credit, and, of course,
objects of j'ist censure. Dr. Milner was himself a
Prelate of the Romish Communion, and was fully
accredited to this count ry by hi s brethren, as the organ
of their sentiments, to assent to such measures as
might eventually be connected with the objects of the
present important discussion. In proportion, there-
fore, as Maine attached to the conduct of Dr. Mil-
ner. it might be reflected back on his constituent*.
A reference to 1)r. Milner's recent publication,
from which the passage wrac garbled, would be
the best defence that could be made for this

very respectable Ecclesiastic, whose reputation
was Altus anonymously attacked, on the sub-
ject of the • administering of an oath iu Ire-
land ; and with respect to the 2d charge—of his
being accessary to theretrititing, by subscrip-
tin-, The Freata of the Prote4tates Bible—Dr.
Milner was, he was.assured, in no way responsible
for it. It was fair to observe, at the scone time,

that a vindication of the Catholics was subjoined to
this pa talteation. which might iustly challenge the
approbation of the warmest friends of the Esta-
blislinient--as containing their abjuration of any
dangerons principle, which had been ascribed to
them by their opponents. This supplementary
part had been dawn up by Dr. Gother, an Ec-
clesiastic of the Roman Communion, and of whom •
Sir J. I. related this alter:dote :--s" That the pre-
sent Bishop of Elphin, (the brother of a Noble
and Learned tor.!) had in one of his publications
observess—' By far the greatest part of the popu-
lation of my Diocese are Hannan Catholics. I
know I eimaot make then) good Protestants.—l
therefore w.sli to make good Catholics of them ; and
with this intention, I put into their hands the
Works of an eminent Catholic Divine, Dr. Grittier.'
'Chia war a maxim, at once consistent with christi-
anity and sound policy." Sir J. 11. then read the
paomittze objected to, from Dr. llitner's late Tour to
Ireland ; also his obserratioam, from the mine ll'ork,
of the contrasted Catechisms of the Protestant in-
corporated Society an,l the general Catechism of
the Roman Catholic Titular Metropolitans-411e
one int ulcuting au al,liorrence of their Catholic
lai•e:lneu ; the other, iamtilling the planeiples of
Christian charity, and loyalty to the established
("los ernmenr. Sir J. IL also adverting to tio
charges brought by Dr. D•iiraut, aionist

nr. Milner, on account t
uf the' publicatina
sr his Case of Conscience, tend is truly Ida.-
ral admission, of the late Chaa..ellor Sturges,
from a letter ikldremed to Sir .1. fl. iu which that
eminent Divine says, " Dr. Militer's pamphlet on
the King's oath, is able au•l vaanimerable—the
Catholics, 1 think, are obliged to me fur calling
forth his letters to a Prebendary. wittteii against me,
which, 1 see, are frequently referred to as a work
of high autlioril." Sir J. 11. then proceeded to
refer to the conventioa between the French (is-
veronica and the present Pore, as proof of the
Pope's adinissian of restrictiour which might 1.. r
applicable to our oa ii situation, owl also of the
sound policy of the French Government with re-
spect to their religious estahlislitnent—as by the
let artich., no Rescript, Decree, Sac. of the Court
of Root', shall he receivtal ut• put in force with-
oat the authority of the Government. 'i hat
the Ecclesiastical Constitution of France also
provided both a Lutheran and Caliinistieal
establi►hment, with their relative synods, &c.—
But, with respect to the Catholic Communion, the
address, accompanying the act of establishment,
declares That the Catholic religion is that of a
vast majority of the Freti.:h nation—to abandon
so powerful an engine, therefore, would be to desire
the first atuisitisus knave, or unsuccessful dema-
gogue, who wished to convulse France anew, to
seize it and direct it against his country. The ap-
plication to the case ofJulent was obvious." The
House being impatient, and calling for the ques-
tion, Sir J. H. begged to remind them, that though
forty years had elapsed since Ins first iutroduction
to a seat in that House, lie had very seldom tres-
passed ou their patience, hut on the present occasion
he could not reconcile himself to a silekt vote,
and the extracts he bad adduced he conceived
were entitled to the serious attention of those who
tpiestiotted the justice and policy of the present
object. He begged also to vquest the Chancellor
of the Exchetiner to consider, (who had on• a pre-
ceding night given a veer contracted idea of Nitr-
ation') that we had at this moment loath Lutheran
and Calvinistic Churches and Preachers established
within the precincts of St. James's Palace, paid
from the Civil List, and wisely so in his opinion,
although the Right lion. Gentleman must recol-
lect, that the communion oldie Lutheran, as well
as the Catholic, admitted the real presence in the
Sacrament. With this observation he should con-
clude, giving his heart; assent for going iuto a Com-
mittee.

FOREIGN INTEI.LIGENcE.

BIALT.I :11,111

4.11111.t1.T r , APP It. JO.

Pe Messina Bri!i,le Gnu, %este'', dial tt, „, 4
Rochefort arptailiona have rout II lid. r cote
a fleet of transport's with troop. un Went, Irum the
eualrea co.iat of the Adriatic to the lase
truors were laud, el. Two or the traisiym :a, curs with ..,
and the other with tao men, were 'llsjest)
frigett,: f',.l.eerrie.. The Coil:nom agaadrua C Ut.t MU* sil
Poit 3141tuu, closely wattled by our cruisers.

ITLAN, APRS!. 7.

llis 111111Crilll tlw Prinee Vuteroy, es I.i..etrimot
of His Majesty the Emperor end King, in the Rretty of
has directed the fullowsitz Order to h• made knout' to lie
tifEruLich troops Twined in ?unit the Ru-
men Stales. and urn the coasts of tit...Vit.:M.le :

" kit* :11iijesty the Enspi.Tor and bctuit tuftirnied th it
rock ales, of a new colour, have been distributed al
and "doe p4ris of Italy, tar the purpose of tortii,e4 it
of re-union azainst his at cotes, declares too,l also hare 4,
trdiuted thew answerable fur all the twin, that may
and directs the rienere.lN commanding his tiouns, iu the Ito.
man States, aid in the liingdinni of Italy naot Ors,
distely to wrest thew Auy that. tins the po..
heeled of the present order. sha:l i,e fuevid with 11. i..
re.ini 11111 l ,hall be trwd by a Military (out • :ea
tenet d to death."

-♦CCOUNTS mom SPAIN. RECCIIILD Cr 'run T3WNS-

P. 14,1, UT.

On the inst. General Murat • t.rato! Duke of Iterz.:, en.
terra Madrid, mid intimated to tile Imai.t, Ito/
that his pretence was accessory at hay untie, this
conferences about to be held between Luiimitate anal the
King, and that, in the mean Cute, it sus that ha
would issue a Proclaitintiou, declaring too (alarm) r,
during his absence. The infant 'toweled, That be hail re-
ceived the regency front the King his nepliew,into %rhomboids
only be would resign it; and that as the duties of Regent of
Spain were iucomputi4le with ajourncy to Baytione, he should
runain at Madrid. Murat, tindiug the infant immoveable in
his determinatians, ordered a large body of troops, which he
had a few days before withi'rawn from Madrid, to rc-eater
that city, attending, as is supposed, to seize the punts of
Dun Antonio, and to declare himself Rerut. How tier, the
inhabitants having got intimation of it, aial being alarmed at
the return tithe Preach, collected in the stserta, attacked
the French army with rigour and veleta:too, took their can-
non, which they turned against them, and Move them out of
the town with gnat slaughter. It is supposed that at lot
ii,uou pertain loot then, lives in the conflict. The French turns
was utigivally tto,ooo, and ria stets of blood were runuilie is
the streets. When these amounts tame away, the greeted
confusion prevailed, rad tad turtlievitsrticulare hail traitor).
red. The Governor of Gibraltar nxcived "owe further ac-
counts about two hours before the Tow uslieuars departure,
which were hrosight by her to England. Admiral Puns,s
conaniauding the Sett off Cadiz, received dispatcher
from that port • few horn ptnitras to the Towashend falba'
is with him, which were lihewiae forwarded by Ina. The
cosiest' of both are kept opramind secret, though generally
miaowed tartlets to their Soils. Admiral diet ass
is high spirits, and in hourly expectancy- of bean called is to
take possession of the Spanish tleet, he.
April 9*, the Townshead fell in with Lord Coll'aiireicad'a
fret of to sail of the hue, off Marctiwo: bit Lordohip sat
still in the dark respecting the route of the Rochfurt aqua.
deer. Chi Saturday last saw a fleet of about Lai soil, stir
posed to he the Brazil convoy, Le.
The Redwing armed at Gibraltar the 4th May ; hen fore-
mast disabled by too 24-paund shot having passed tbruneli
it; use in the mairs.mast, one in the bowsprit, said steals
shot is the hull ; one man lulled, and now wuundod, in as
anima which she sustained with the undermentioned moray,
a hick she fell in with oft Tertfa, the same day, tau their p.s.
',age from Algesiras to Cadiz via.
El Diligente, loa-poutule!rs, a 1-pounders, 6o mete, sail
80ra5...... 2 ditto
No. .... a ditto 1 34,-pon:ider, so ditto, ditto
I dab/ - 40 ditto, ditto
Nu. 2 OpOSIOdt7II ••••,•••• WI do. csrapoll
A.taistico.... 4 6-ditto no do. tnken
A felucca a 3-ditto ------ an do. escaped
Saves asetchasitaen taken--one escaped.

The wind being very light, and the rocas,/ on their sweeps,
the brigs could net ch.se parer than inusquet shot before they
tacked into iipal water. Their first determination was to
board, but fetching within point WauL shot, they lost all
confidence. The above cameo) sailed inns Algeeirp wa Fri-
day the 6th of May.

THE BRITISH PRESS.

LON DON,
FRIDAY, Mar 17.

The Totrnslend packet, arrived with Mail+ from
Malta and E ilbraltar, has brought intelligence of
importance respecting the recent changes in Spans.
The coninioCon ut Madrid appears to have been
attended by a shocking. massacre of the Citizens
of that town, by their friends and allies the French.
The substance is given in our preceding columns.

The mires:sty in the House of Commons, on the
Catholic Question, contained 40 Irish sleuibers, of
whom es represent counties. Now, as there are
only 32 counties in Irelaud, we have here a pretty
strong impression of the public sentiment in le,
lend in &tour of the Catholic claims. It Wad well
observed by Mr. GIITTAN, in his admirable
speech, of which Tug Batriss Pai:ss yetitcv,Ly
presented as excellent report, that " the Pro-
testant Gentlemen of Irtlaild see the true ramie
of the public danger, and have wisely stepped
ward to meet it with the effectual remedy ; • but it is
not alone from motives of liberality they hate fe:t
it their duty to come forward. They are alive to
the immix:id danger which presses upon their
country, and are urged to their duties by the acne
sense of personal safety. They deprecate the cor-
Uunanee of that terrible pi otection—protecti.
which you have given them in nio.vopoly
exclusion. They, the very holders of this t.moo-
p,4y, come to the Lar of this Ilnuse, and call o!. ~n
you to take it hack. They feel the fatal ctroctt:
this uti3,•ett und insecure aseentlaticy, and II!, -%
you to extend to their Catholic brethren,
rights and privileges of free subj.. cts." A sial'r
Protestemt ve of an Iti,h comity, i t
mg this Isirre;:ge, initst corvine,: the most adter•

the Cathul...: 1.,:n0. The Lawlisii ( ;
It. rese.aa!:) ii ri ..I,sred from ti:e
over.ttima t; C
wanted to l'At i. 1.0.1 040.1 Pui r
{tie i.t.te.:oll. I :it ne