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Int*, he gave every credit ; bet be fame: again tin. Le- 3ilinr.; or if C:t!let! :rtes aeior, and this Court
press upon the flow. that it was inslensible to As- should decide en cities which had previously passed
,ertikin either the nature of the evil, ur the niaiiner through the law and °ear Chambers. their deci-
ef telnesle. until the It rise feet Nay :ma materely sees wotild still be considered as impede& front dell
weighed the tenor of the Inforinatien which It CAUSes besoreanentimed, and the parties would
woulebe enabled to receive from the distinguished • never tail us brim/ the matter a: issue finally before
persons whom it was intended to examine at the I this House. Thus the process of lawavould be ren-
Nit of the House. I dered both more tedious andexpensive to she patties,
Lord GRhNVILLE said, he could not abstain by multiplyisig the stages through wh.ch ti.ey else to
hom expressing his surprise at one of the most tin. I arrive at a final determination. He considered this
f unded charges which was brought against the sulatitation of II Chamber of Review, as a breach of
measure, he had the honour to submit to the House. the Rill at Rights contained in the Aft of Union,
flit Noble and Learned Lord had complained whico stated that the Scotch people should have the
of a want of caution in the drgestion of the present power to appeal immediately from the Court of
Bill, of a want of respee to tie distinguished cha- Sessions to the British Parliament. And, in the
reacts who compose the Court of Sessien, and the e consideration of this material question, he hoped the
able Lawyers who adorn its bar. Was the Noble I supporters of the hilt would treat with sonic defer-
and Learned Lore justified in making such a ence the excited feelings of a whole nation. He
charge ? Was there any ground on which such au t finaliy expressed a wish that the Noble Lord would
argument against the measure, and such an accu- I separate use first of the objeas of the hilt, trout the
sation agaiist its Advocates, could for a moment last ; and, as each was sufficiently comprehensive,
Tea ? The House would recoiled the circum. they might be submitted to the House in a less ob-
stances of the case; and in that recollection, their jectionaele item ; for though he himself was aft lend
Lordships would &aid a complete refutation of the I to the reduction if the number of Judges, he could
objetlion whisk had been made. In the course never consent to it when accompanied v. eh the oche,
which had been adopted, their Lordships should clauses, to which lie had stated bis ohyaliOnsi in 111
bear in mind, that the House recommended cer. cursory manner; but which he would take an opposes
lain resolutions, with respee to the introduc. tuaity*of stating at length in the Committee, should
non of this Aft of Regulation, in the last Ses. the Bill come before them in its present form.
sion—a circumstance unprecedent-d, save in the The hail of LAUDEItDALfe contended, that
Union between this country and Ireland. When the Articles of Cajon had not been viewed, in a
this Session he had brought in the Bill, he fully lust light by the NMI, Lord; and was of opinion,
entered into the merits of the measure, and proposed that no part of the Bill went to infringe any of the
such an interval of time between the first and second At tides of Union. These Articles never put it out
reading, as was calculated to inforM the public of the power of the British Parliament •• to alter of
mind, and the parties interested, on the ramie tit the improve the existing laws, as far as it should appear
remedy proposed, and the alteration intended.— necessary for the purposes of civil right aed general
With such facts before his view, can the Noble Lord policy ;" and none would, he hoped, daisy, that
persevere in his assertion, that sufficient time was not the purpose of the Bill was not to trench on any
given for the fullest discussion of the measure in private right, but to facilitate the purposes of pub-
that part of the country most immediately interested he Justice, and beriefi: the nation collectively. hoer
in the result of this invest:vibe, ? But the objeteions Chamber of Review, so much argued against
against the present measure, go to a greater went. by tee Noble Lord, had', nevertheless, beets
It has been lepresented by sonic as a vissiati in of as effectually established, fur a time, by the
that solemn compact of Union, which it is the para. regulations of the Court of Session. as the
mount duty of the House most striely t.. pr. set ve. preseet Bill could resider it, and even Juries had
Was it possible for him to think that the measure been called in to decide, on various occasiems.—
he recomnieuded, in the slightest degree trenched Yet w. %eel the Noble Lord affirm, that Parliament
on the provisions of that great Legislative Contrite,. was not competent to tiled that which this Curt
lie would feel it the duty of their Lordships at once had effected ! But the right of Parliament had been
to resist it. But he was as.;;:ied, that it was neithet admitted, not only in the at of Union, but in the
inconsistent with the articles of the Union, or the Memorial tit the Eiseulty of A„deocetes in Scotland,
precedents of the House. since the adoption of that representing to this, Houses that no greater boon
measure. The Court of Session, the supreme Court of could be bestowed on the Scottish nation, than a
Scetland, was found-c 1 on the Parliament of Paris. participation of the right of Trial by Jury; and

Thar Parfimilent of Pails was subdivided into

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general alteration in their system of judicial pro-
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hers. This Bib only rid that which existed in that Par.
hantent, upon which the Court of Session Was, en-
grafted. So far it was only ae acknowledgment
of the original construflion of that Court. Another
ohjedion was, the appointment of new .ludge4, tot
the purpose of constitetine a Court of Review. In
this particular, the oeie nents of the measure are
equally mistaken. No new Judges were appn:ated ;
but in forwarding the syst m of regulation, the
le-
gislature was called upoo to revive uo'.e app •int-
ments which did exist at site period cf the Union,
and which sere only 460111.11 yd by the 10th of George
the First. It will nut be contended, that it Par-
liament had at that peri.el the ;sow.* of atro-
lishin,4 the offices of Extraordlnary 1...4-ds, it ha,
not now a tight to ext. icise a suni!ar authoray,
in the revival of them. But when Noble Lords in-
welch against toe subdivision of the Court of See-
lion into Ctsembers, as violating the Articles of the
Union, they furnish tllll.ll Wt.:4l)of•S to destroy the
motion which the Noble Duke (Montrose) had
it ought proper to make. Ii the subdivision into
Claainbei s be a violation of the Articles of the
Union, ine ei!; ion is equally valid, both against the
subdivision into two, proposed by the Noble Duke;
and into three, which the present Rill would effeet.
But the Lona nt Session has already exeteised the
right of di% ;ding itself into the Outer and littler
Co.oubets ; and surely it will not be argued, that
Pat bard-ut is not competent to du that, which a
sub..rJinate Court of Justice has previously etreeted.
An able and distinguishes' charatter had, in an un-
aesweraitle manner, deprecated that monstrous in-
coegruity and irteconeilable policy, which would
bind up the hands of the Legislature, and nut permit
it to vary the forms of administering justice, for the
period of one hundred yews. But it was idle to take
up the time of the House by answering such objec-
tioru. The Union gave to Parliament the power, and it
was the duty of their Lordships ta confer on Scot-
land this greatest boon; at the sante time that it
would enable them, in the exercise of their judicial
funklions and duties, to do that justice to how Eng-
land and lreland, from which they were now in no
small degree prevented, by the prtssure of Scotch
causes of Appeal.
Lord EI.DON rose to explain.
Lord MELVILLE stated, it was not his intention
at present to detain the House for any length of
time ; since lie was of opinion with the N sole Lord,
that there would be a much better 'opportunity to
discuss the expediency of thh measure at length in
the Committee. He was not inclined to assert with
others, that the proposed change in the nurnher of
the Judges was contrary to the seirit tw letter of
the Aft of Union. He had himself introduced into
Parliament, near twenty years ago, a Bill fur that
express purpose; and though metal were of opinion
that this change was contrary to the principles of
the Union, yet tie, in conjunction with others, whose
friendship at that time did him honour. thought
decidedly otherwise ; and in this opinion they were
supported by the assent of the greater part of
both Nations. His objeaion then was confined
to that part cat the BM which introduced
the Trial by Jury into the Scottish Courts of
Judicature; this, he conceived, totally unfitted
to die genius and dispo.ition of the country,
which was repugnant to the change, and conceived
it a dangerous innovation of their ancient customs
and privileges. Ile conceived the establishment of a
Chamber of Review in Scetland would he attended
with no beneficial consequences as to lessening the
number oh Appeals winch might he preferred to
the House, as the Scotch were remarkably tenacious
of their opinions, especially in matters of law, and
would never be satisfied with the decision of this
mock Court of Judicature. In fag, it would be
found, not only useless in the pia lice, but ab,urd
in the ptiociple itself. It was to invest certain legal
officers with powers which never would be called

ceedings. He concluded by observing, that it was
rather surprtung, no greater opposition oa the part
of tae 5i.041 had been given to the Bill, which had
no .v reaseined on the table near a twelvemonth ; and
he would naturally be inclined to c include, that if
such were the consequences described by the Noble
Lind as resulting from it, the table would long since
nave been covered with Petitions from the faculty,
a, well as the differentisounties of Scotland.
Lord MANSFIELD c•bjefted to the Bill in its
present state, thinking it too great an innovation
upon the ea; ning laws of Se-I:land. He coincided
with the Noble Duke (Montrose), in wishing that
the Bill shou:d be divided under cliffs: eat head.,
and was whoiiy inint.cal to the introduction of the
Trial by Jury, ninth he considered as by no means
consonant with the popular facings of that part of
the United Kingdom. in support of these objec-
tions, nis Lordship cited the opinion of his Nahle
Father, given.apou this suhjed in the year 1784
when a similar Bill was introduced into Parliament.
In conclusion, his Lordship expressed a with that
the House should not take any !tidier steps until
the artital of the Scotch Judges, from whose infor-
mation the House would derive the greatest advan-
tages.
The Question upon the original Motion, for going
into a Cammiuee, was then put and carried, firm
; atter which, the Amendment for dividing the
Bill, proposed by the Duke of Monuose, was
negatived without a division.
The Bill was then committed, and the Preamble
p,stponed.
Lord ELDON said, that when the Committee
should come to the clauses respeding Trial by Jury.
he should propose that this should be made a sepa
tate and distind BM, and also would offer some
amendments upon that head.
The Report was then brought op, and ordered
to be taken into further consideration on Wed-
misday.
After some routine business, the House Ad-
journed at One o'Clock.

11011 tit OF COMMON!.

Sir Home Popham and another Member this day
took the Oaths and their Seats.

A Report was presented at the Bar from the Gail-
ford Committee, stating that G. H. Sumner, Esq. '
was not duly eleaed, but that the Petitioner, Gen.
Chapple Norton, was duly eleaed member for that
place.
On the motion of Mr. HOBHOUSE, Lord
Bruce was ordered to be discharged out of the cus-
tody of the Serjeant at Arms, at the rising of the
House, on paying his fees.
S 1 members procured leave of absence from
various causes ; amongst them were Lord Seymour,
General Gascoyne, General Manners, Sir Wm.
Scott, Sir Charles Sunbury, and Sir Thomas furton.
A new writ was ordered for the Borough of
Buckingham, in the room of Sir Wm. Young, who
has accepted the situation of Governor of Tobago.
Lord fOLKESTONE moved, " That there be
laid before the House a Return, snewing the tune
of service, in. the Navy, of Thomas A.Veatherliead
(one of Mr. Paull's witnesses), betwixt the years
1798 and 1805, both includve."
This motion was objected to by Mr. FREE-
MAN ['LE, and some other Hon. Members, on ac-
count of its being too general, not stating the parti-
cular vessels on board of which Mr. Weathethead
had aalially served.
After some conversation, Lord FOLK ESTONE
agreed to witndraw his motion ; and, :site; a drift
interval, moved, That there be laid iiefore the
House, a Return, stewing the time of service of
Thomas Weatherhead, between the years 1791 and
INO:o, both inclusive, on board the Ajar, Royal
11/alliant, Cerch Ciervis. Led 3, and 41
Ordered.