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torrors of campaigns that i.ever existed, and enter- great. It must have beers very great in transport-
ed Minutely into the particulars or, assaults, am- to the additional ships of star placed in con-
buseutles, storiniugs, and other miseries of war, so iron ;in the great .manger in these ships'
much, that it star einiu;ll to de,irive Members, who ant their guns and taking in horse*:
were not military men, of their sleep. He hod then pital ship, fitted up rn the prey'
a, gone into a disquisition on the fallibility of man ; were; in the commissariat der
.6. inns, rating, thereby, the fallibility of Ministers; eapsuditure of ordnance it
ism and, he really believed, that g more fallible set than partrarat ;in the new staff
`ate the pre.mit, in war, never existed. 'f be Hon. Ge- creteservice money ; in
at aaJ limit then examined the chavicex, and explained bricks, lime, ke.; in
c;rie. the probable hardships, of a contest, supposing out of general e'
Jr. Ash- 40,000 troops bud been transported in the North of charges; and in
OGermany, to act between the Ems sod the Weser. of recruiting
"Pe" "" But this was not required. for all that Austria itself' soy'
rs Griglietti, asked of this country. vies, detachments of cavalry UpOlv
Ir. Gus", Mr. and artillery. Frem Germany, the Hon. General tidoe
travelled into Spain ; and here he agreed with him,
Ar•J•Agliki• that from the season of the year, nothing could have
Ike Is. been done in that quarter. From Spain, he we
y,
to Italy, and contended, that to this point up F
Bill it ,tow dition would hate been too late. He 'Ger
,ill?iG, PAVING, did not think so. As Ministers were a-
is, an.l other public
PA NC.R.V4i tu the of intorm..tion, su surly us Drceinh
shall be wade upon might have had an effective fie
esti. iO,OOO men alfealiy to Seedy
sod LYON, Sormitun't alone tin' enemy won eultre'
oursbery.misare.
tifeclunily 10 cu-operiA•
Would have the Set,
lILIAMENr. Scheldt ; stud an
lutist he sent
notarial-, 29.
'laced, that
mord ea she Appeal respecting the Con*
Peerage —A heather bearing us warrie
Alt Bills were brought op from the
miner of which was the Irish Sugar
Jere read a first tinge.
ale erre ft/retarded in their reaper
APAIGN IN SPAIN.
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pepsin winch had it
the co
Spain. Furth,-
mime of which '
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mirrors of campaigns that i.ever existed, and enter-
'd Minutely tato the particulars of assaults, am-
/UW.441,i, storiniugs, and other miseries of war, so
ouch, that it was eniiti,;ll to deiirive Member'', who
.ere not military men, of their sleep. He hid then
(tore into a disquisition on the fallibility of man ;
Ilmoratieig, thereby, the fallibility of Mioesters ;
end, be really believed, that a more Nibble net than
he pre.elit, in war, never existed. 'Flee Hon. Ge-
moil then examined the chances, and explained
he probable hardships, of a contest, supposing
10,000 troops bud been transported in the North of
Germany, to act between the Ems and the Weiler.
But this was not required, for all that Austria
esker, of this country. was, detachments of cavalry
rod artillery. Frem Germany, the Hon. General
travelled into Spain ; and here he agreed with- him,
that from the **mom of the year, nothing could have
been done in that quarter. From Spain, he went
to Italy, and (-untended, that to this point up Expe-
dition would have been too late. He (General T.)
did not think so. As Ministers were in procession
of intorne.tioe, su early as December, IbOd, they
might have had so effective form joined to the
40,000 men already in Sicily, oady to act, where
alone the enemy win vulnerable, is time soffit-Mut
tffecitielly to eu-opere% with Austria. but they
Would hare the Scheldt, and nothing but the
Scheldt ; sod an Expedition, to write our resources,
smolt be sent somewhere. He was firmly con-
viuced, that, hay ing now overcome all opposition on
the Comment, we must expect that the greatest
warrior of this or other times would gratify bin rul-
ing passion, by an immion of this country. It be-
came us, then, to husband our weans of defence,
and not squander them iu such a manner. He le-
afed that the Expedition was any diversion in fa•
your of Austria; as, before it willed, Ministers knew
of the battle of Wagram, and the conclusion of
the armistice. Wheuever they were informed that
Napoleon had entered into oeirociations, experience
ought to have taught them to anticipate the com-
plete triumph of Frafsce, and prostration of Austria.
Such had been the consequeoces to powers who
treated with him after the battles of Marengo, Aus-
terlitz, and the Niemen.. A Noble Lord (Castle-
reagh) had told them, that the General Officers, with
hum Government chose to consult, were not, when
they delivered their opinions, in possession of the
facts on with Government decided. These olficers
.were rash in declaring their opinions without a per-
feefifeowledge of the grounds on ankh they stood,
sad as no dais was given them, he considered the
eonsultatios of larovernment to he one of the great-
egt mockeries and insults ever offered to the reek-
htly profession. Tue Hon. General opposite
(Cranfurd) had commented somewhat too severely
on the evidence gives by a worthy Friend of his
(Sir W. Erskine), iu whose answers eo much.reen.
racy, information, skill, judgment, and intelligence
was displie.ed. as to make hint almost believe that
the soul of his illustrious tither again lived in him.
There was a similariiybetwern the late campsite and
that of 17411, for the., we were masters of the muse
try, aud ablecompletely to invest the fortified places;
while in the lasi, the relief every day to be expect-
ed from their friends, would induce the besieged to
hold out to the last extremity. He them proceeded
to remark on the evidence of Geo. Brovinrigg, for
a hose professional knowledge he professed son, ration
That General had wen it, as his °pinto'', that
the Exped.tion might reach Sautvliet, and land in
divismos. ou the ist, id, and 3d. August; and in
thirtruu or fourteen days, accomplish all the ob-
jects in view, and be on their return home. This
was a mere visionary opinion of these officers, up-
ou which Goterinneut was so much buoyed up, as
to undertake this impracticable Expedition. where
every thing depended on the veal. ride; eici. Such
was the anticipation and ptoject of all things
smooth and even. He would now take a view of
the campaign, and see how different to these pleas-
ing speculations every thing turned out. After an
unaccountable and culpable delay of nineteen days,
the army obtained possession of Flushing. With
regard to the capture of Walclieren, their operations
were as slow and clumsy as any hr had ever had oc-
casion to contemplate in the whole course of his usi-
bury observation. liestead of proceeding in the
way they did. as time was their object. they ought
to hate marched down at once a single column of
GOOO men. By these means they would have
cut off the reinforcement.' thrown into Flushing
from the country, prevented inundation, and. if the
garrison came out to tight, terminated the affair by
defeating them, and entering the town with the fly-
ing enemy. As for the operations against Antwerp,
there appeared some coutradiction between the evi-
dence of General Browuregg and others, as to the
state of its fortifications. General Brownrigg ap-
peared to hare peel more attention to the suburbs
and out-works, than to what to general more occu-
pied a soldier's attetilint.—.fie height of the ram-
parts, and depth of the ditch. ler his opinion. re-
specting a landing at Cadssiid„ he was also at vari-
ance with other officer•. Having controverted Ge-
neral Brow nrigg's• opinions, on this point, General
Tarleton also argued against the opinions of General
Mac Lee], that a boosbardittent of Airtaerp would
have had any effect, mid of General Sontag. that it
might be easily compelled to surrender ; and con-
tended, upon the whole, that the f.ll of this place
could nut he expected iso emir as Ministers were
led to calculate upon. The Noble Lord (Caii.
tlereagh) had brought before the House many
Ina!uncry of failure, as if all the failures in
the world could ever exculpate him from his
share of respowalislity upon thus disaritridt• Ex-
p-ditioo. lie hvd %roue to the Dardanelles, to,
Ee% to, to Buenos Abets, and alien the nitolse
fitic.l, ha.l tried the wave., and ate cued to the
tie. Art, r rtoir.,%norio4 to rects-e failure, ht
,(1 to, .1 to make tls ni believe that the me oie
run no min, then lifiti,Doc.l.; they lowa
j I awl hone alto g-ve rr..tlit to tha,—
He • 'MA merino'. • few the ezirmirdi.s.try it ..ins
it. •v!..,ch :he expense ;marred toast have beeu very

great. It must have been very great in transports;
in the additional iiiips of mar placed in commis-
sion ; in the greet cliangre in these ships. taking
out their guns and irking in horses; in the het*
pital ship, fitted up rn the peculiar way they
were; in the commissariat department; an the
expenditure of ordnance in the medical de-
partment; in the new staff appointments; in se-
cret-service money ; in materials for building,
bricks, lime, &c.; in the flotilla; in the currying
out of general ulcers; in the miscellaneous
charges ; and in the loss of 7,000 men, the expense
of recruiting within, estimated at 401. pee man. in
itself would amount to upwards of half a million.
Upset; tin these Arta the expense could not Ire
taken at lea than 3,000,0001. When oar force ar-
rived at Baths, then it was that the officers, so um-
arsine is discovered that the object of the
Expedition was impracticable; that Lilco was trot
to be taken ; 'that Antwerp was not te be approach-
ed; and that the shipping, the greet end of their
equipment, were moved entirely out of their reach.
He would not go into arguments en the unhealthy
season selected by Ministers for this Expedition.
and creel detention of the teen at Ilifidelieree,
etre the ulterior objeets were gtvits 1Ip,• The whole
trensaction, foe absurdity of design, end profligacy
of expenditure, ansoug all tbe vseilintioes of Mi-
nisters. stood preeminent for 'folly and ignorance.
These climes were proved by the evidence against
the Right Hon. Gentleman (Mr. Perceval), and be
must therefore giro his vote against the amendment.
General CIAUVVIIID explained. it bed never
been 'mid that Government kept back information
from the Officers they consulted, but that the is.-
formation that resolved them wu received after
; that cousultetinn.

General 'FAitheeoll explained.
Mr. VOW Said, lie would not, nor was he compe-
tent to follow the I Inn. General through ail his mi-
litary details and observations, particularly as all
hie arguments went against the operations in Will-
cheren, in approbation of which, a vote of the
House had passed. He contended, however, in op-
position to ths Hon. General, that the Expedition
had rimed as a diversion in favour of Austria, and
hod drawn troops from the north of Germsuy,
which would otherwise have been brought to bear
upon the Demibe. The Expedition was pre-
pared, and iii readiness, before the news of the ar-
mistice was received; and would the Hon. G. neral
and his Friends have, merely on teat account, laid
it aside, without Iloilo; any thing? By being sent
to the Scheldt, it had dram' General Gwent. with
7000 men, from tile north of Germany ; it lied
brought the garraous from Stettin, Cimino. Am
sod the whole Westphalian army wits on its march
to oppose it. But, even stripping the affair
of its merits as a divetiion, after the hopes of *—
silting our Allies were over, the British object
was worthy of the Expedition, and the taking
of Flushing alone, could it have beeu retained,
was defies wag of the whale expense. This was
not his opinion alone; it was the opinion of
men, to whose sense and skill the country would
ever bow with deferes.ce, and not expressed pri-
vately to him, but publicly, to public men. Lord
Nelson, when employed against Boulogne. had de-
clared it to be his o*lion, that the comities' of
Flushing was the mart important object this COllO.
try could cchieve. In his letter to Lord St. Vise.
cent, cn the subject, he stated, that to get to lid-
voet or Flushing, and destroy the enemy's ship-
ping, would be the greutrst service that could
be rendered to the country. He offered to
undertake the tiok, stating, that it would re-
quire a week's time, and ie or 6000 men. (Hear,
hear, Irani the oppeitioa.) This stewed that la-
mented hein's opinion', thee the greatest danger of
invasion to his native land was from Flashing, and
that it would be of no d.fficult conqueet. The same
was the opinion of Commoder.. Owen; than whom
a [Dore skilful, docerning, and excellent °Seri.. did
not grace the British service. (Here the Right
lion. Gentleman entered into it handsome eulo-
glum on the distinguished officer whore name
lie had mentioned, and who, from his gallan-
try, activity anal promptitude, in every emergency,
had attracted the peculiar notice and friends:lip of
Lord Nelson). Ile entertained similar nienioos
as to the importaiire of Flushing; atsd it was from
such authorities as these that he (Mr. Itra ) drew
his argument, that the conquest of Flushing alone
(could it have been retained) was a sufficient ob.
jtct to justify the Expedition. By the possession
of that port, where stu sail of the line could lie In
the basin, fully equipped, ai.d ready to come out
with nit east wind, we would avoid the great ex-
pense of keeping two fleets, on different sta-
tions, to watch the enemy. It would also have
been inoreeffectual than even destroying the enemy's
shipping. For, though we destroyed his ships, they
could be replaced, while the forests supplied the
timber; bur, by possessing Flushing, we wittily an-
nihilated Antwerp. and all the fleets in the Scheldt.
The Right Hou. Gentleman than went hate parts of
the evidence, to thew that Sir Richard Steinhart.
Captain Cockburn, and others, from 13th August
to 29th October, continued to think Flushing of
such importance. that it ought not to be given up.
That it ought not to be given up. on account of the
security retaining it gave to this country, as well as
with an eve to future operations against the rushy
on the Coutioent. There was another consultors-
lion attached to this subject. Even though we wets
umilde to have kept possession of Flashing. could
we have destroyed toe siavioation of the Scheldt ?
Stich a ie-rece would have justified the Expeditioo.
—He 'Mewed. from an extract from a letter of
Sir Richard Struchan, that, on 13th August, he
Ihad considered that is precticalde. Modelers err ,
therefore. entitled alas to have thought it attatt.wl.lt.
The Hun. Genticmau had aroused tin of h,.";
the tp•At fa!hihle Ministers that ever ti a .::.iiiely
.Iw, 'ilia s 14,b1e Lord .(I'or. !rests) had iltszi.i.t-1
this as the snort dieast• nu i of all rap, ilitiOns ; ' e'"
vi.:e el our history euu:d Thew that :hate axe.: net.'

winp:oyed iu Spain. This, he believed,
az, the first instance, in diplomatic correpeiad-
u.re, is which persons of the dew ription he ale'
hided to, had been so compromised... lie thought
the matter a most Nernme one; an mach to, that het
shoel4l nos gite notice of a motion, which he should
submit to their Lordships, to-morrow. respelling
propriety of deferring the farther publication
and delivery of those papers, until the nature and
tendency of their contents were better ascertained.
13 the sheence of the 'ffeble Lbrd.(Weltlndey7 le
via= these matters mote particularly. but UV el.
elusively, hrinhged, he should riot now enter into
"I details, wishina, however, to be informed by
me Noble Secretary opposite, (Lord Liverpool),
thether mere, and what papers, were intended to be
delivered.

The Earl of LtaraPoOt. had only to oh serve,
that the pope's alluded to by the Noble ;biros
lad been divided into two sets, those list belonged
1., the Diplomatic and those which belonged to the
Military Department. He believed the Diploma-
tic Papers were already before the House, as they
were in a greater degree of forwardness. The re-
'twining Military Papers would soon be ready ; but,
iv the absence of his Noble Friend, he should like.
wise decline going into any detail on tke subject,
while be expre.sed a wish, at the same time, that the
prodnction or non-p►oduction of the papert should
not be decided by motion, but by an understands
int that no further papers should be delivered until
sft.r the discussion, of which lite Noble Baron bad
given notice fur to-morrow. In the mean time he
should take occasion to communicate with his
Nctile Friend (the Marquis Wellesley).
Lord GaaavlLLl expressed hie acquiescence in
the Noble Earl's proposition, and it was ordered
trrt the House be summoned for to-mortow.—
Adjourned.

were slot wail founded. He 'meld not go hack td
the great failure of Prince Eugene end the Dub/
of Savoy ; but take • short retrospect, frees they
end of the reign of Queen Anne, and frog/
thence prove, that other Ministers had beat se.
fallible, and other expeditions equally unnietaisfull
The Right Hoipurable Gentkman then entered
into en accouut of all the unfortunate Expedite*/
in which this country has been engaged for the last
century. He detailed the unsuccessful operations
against Rochefort, in 1727—the attack on Betgeoa
op-Zoom, in 1747—the Expedition, in 17/o—Lord
Anson's and Howe's, to the Bay of Biscay. in 17.11
—the miacamage at Cherburg in the same year-34
the attempt on Martinque, the same •yea--General
Itiogaley and Admiral Kepprl's Espediuon is
1760—sod coschstled this part of his ancient his.'
tory, with the siege of Belleisle. in 1781. Within
turned to mere modern times, and hinted at the
Dardanelles, Egypt, sad other miscerritges of the
last Administrate's. He did not state these things
in order to them any erasure on any Administrat
thin, but to disprove whet ha been deserted; and
to shim that if nothing wee even to be undeetaked
bat with an abs. lute *Minty of Ammo, nothing
worthy a nation would t‘fir be dose. Thit the
object of the late Expedition was great and ins.
portant. he conceited could not be denied, after -
the °pitiless of Lord Nelson, Sir IL Streefion, and
Commodore Owen, were known. With regard to
the expense, the Hooey reble General had esti-
mated it very high, and had favoured them with
the distinct heeds of charge. It was true these
were all already enumerated iu the documents as
their table. and he believed no Minister don/ •
ever instruct a clerk to slier the amount, and
make it lower then it was. These papers stated it
at eOO,OOOl. which must therefore be received as
the true amount. nets ithstanding the conjectures
of the Hon. Genets!. Thus, moldering the Baps.
dation, as calcul ate& to attain a great nattosal objteti,
he would vote for the aissadnitut.

Lord FSANCIA Osseous/ in a west speedy
expressed his reluctance to offer hay "observation'
which ehould frescos. also the time of the House
was such was the aspartamee of the crease
inquiry, that be would not give a odes vote on
the • question. Whew be atkutively examined
the evidence sitibmitted to their consideretioa, he
could ant but conclude, that tbeinfunsation ulna
which Ministers resolved to undertake the Elope.
dikes. did sot warrant the enterprise. The inksd
of former expeditioas' particularly that to Hollsod.
in 1799. ought to have taught them to entertain
a doubt, whether so important en Expednies
as that to the Scheldt. would be attended with
success. The Noble Lord {Castlereagh,) had
stated the tecoussy which attended the waden.
tame, mod estimated it at what might be eon..
eiders' coniparativele a small espesse. Bat the
Noble Lord would 'do well to coneider that the
money expended in that fruitless Expedition was •
lest to the eorasitry • sad that *key sisitiseg was tom
front the hard-earned saving* of frugality. It had
been stated, that Antaerp might hive roeen taken
by a cusp-de-weds, or mere particular'c explained,
by assault; but the opinion of those -officers, who
had been 'stained. did sot sanetien any . stn.
guide expectation. It never could deserve his sp.
probation, undertaken without competent know-
ledge, and carried into execution with a profusiou of
expense. tad a sacrifice of so many valuable lives.
It was not hi. intention to enter minutely into
all parts of the evidence which tended to prove the
expedition was improvidently undertaken, bat he•
could not but mention the waste of our brave eel.
diem, from destructive disease. and at that subject
it would be found there was blame to be incepted.
because due care was hot, is the, brat inotante,taken
to resort to medical advice. lie bed only to add,
the expedition was, in Ins opinion. undertaken un--
wisely; for the situation of the Island of Watt:here&
and that of Antwerp, were notes:di as to stiengthe;
any calculation upon success.
Lord Gamest Quite' ete observed, the subject.
now under the di.cussion of that House, was par-
ticularly important in itself. He was such sae.
prised whet, be had beard the Noble Lord .(Cestke
reugh) in attempting to defend the policy of the Ex-
pedition. resort to a comparison between the Ex-
pedition to Antwerp, and that to Rochfurt, planned
by Lord Chatham. From what had been maid spas
the subject, be would read a short extract from
narrative. published by the authority of the Earl
of Chatham. The Noble Lord here read seams
passages from the publication, wherein it appeorod,
that itochfort was represented at that bate to be
in • defenceless state ; so much so, that it would
have been most ensemble, if any Minirter had in.
giected to attend to the representation. The meet
able Officers had been consulted, end gave their de.
coded opinion is favou roft be Expedition. The N obk
Lord contrasted this part of the case with the op-
poiete facts attendant upon the Espeditioo to 11.•
Scheldt. The latter hod certainly been undereikeu.
sot only without sufficient lamination, licit even in
contradiction to the general opinion of thine Offi-
cers who bad been consulted ou the occasion. Ent
Lewd Chatham directed his incline, not only to tint
harbour sod sliest% but to the French force lik.iy
to he employed aeain.t the omit 'taking. Thin fore.
in the matinee of the Rochfurt Eapedition, there
was on endeavnur simmer.; to obtrun the hest and
moat linos and ..ct inconformity to
CUCII inlorroation; which sr ..tJ ❑ .t ncrin't a comp*.
riso
flat.
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by 1,-rd Coath.on. rt Is to tilt John 111 so.
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; ,•I re,l to; betides, the Parbanseat rd
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insii!we an loquire into the causes nail fatten. of
Lord Cl.iharn a Pagerdition. which preyed they
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