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with a erectile pme—pmeiekew. He hod beard ittalleuseM lay
twines ibiags, all however inapplicable to every part of the
cormtry. In mar places the poor rates had bees dimisished,
and where the case was differeut, it was, he felt personded,
owlet to local esteem. One calms wee in isierease of pope-
latioo, which had, widths the lest tea years, bees very great.
If a mom, woman shield be coovesied, it would, he pre-
mimed, be with the view of pentiouing Parlianieut; aid
then, In all probability, we should waitress the same result as
we bad sees last year. He could not foi bear sayieg, that a
mass of some contradictory, of morefrequently refuted evi-
awe, thee wag there presented to Parliament, bad never
fake withis his isiesevallioa. For himself be would ob-
serve, that he was easily (sod so be was sure were a greet
essay other gentlemeo) to devote himself entirely to the in-
vestigation of this importing sod intricate question. He
esofeseed that he was at a lose to my what was the real cause
of the pretest distress; it arose, doubtless, front a combine-
ties of causes, and he did mat think i 1 in the power of any
gentleman to ;mist out a remedy. Still it was right to dis-
cuss and investigate the 'object. His Lordship thew mated,
that in Yorkshire, where be had • considerable estate, and
where the population had loevessed as wench as is Some;
*was informed by his agent that the poor rates were out
IMO Shaw seven•penee in the poised, sad the distress he
All. being general or severe. He was perssaded that**
amount of the rateswas attributable to the km price of
He felt anxious to know, whether, In the east of Sewn, OA
increase of population, there had bees a falling off In
',cultivation ? For the last year aid • half, he hod bees pet.
seeded that there was souseihisig pecolemiy-dfsiteseluir
is that district. One important pokes whisk hod keso
little mentioned es the present oreasems,, woe the low
price of cora. The rEsestiese was meek low piers
arise from the impartation of foreign cora ? He Italy
believed that for the last two years there had bees
little competition. His own opinion was, that the pre-
tend dilicolties were calmed by • too hasty attempt So
alter the currency; for it could scarcely be sopposed that •
systems, which bad bees the work of twenty years, algid be,
without incusvenience, so *oddest, abolished. He alma took
shame to himself fur having voted is Marline/hest in favour
of the abolition of the Property Tat, slice he wale maw per.
'leaded that on a modified scale it would be the meet mar
logy oserreere dee could be adopted. Every num, however,
who milted la public affairs, would ekes do thaw which
he world afterwards be compelled to regret. It see said by
seamy, that the debt of the toiletry was • groat evil; yet
leo one could say that it was • lees to the swims; on Site
contrary, it was bat the transfer of property from one clam
of lbeenemaissity to another. It was, is Weepiness,. mime
of wealth; and be was persuaded nisei evil would result if
a reduction of the debt should take place. For himself, his
Lordship said, that be had not, nor would be env have, one
Seething in the funds, and therefore is what be had stated be
could of course be iolluenced by on remise! hiller. He
most say that he thought flee, a sort of bask is which all
might take refuge ; and that we should Sod ourselves much
poorer without them. He bad, donee • life of 70 years,
witoessed many soil v • riots, revuleliniss, sail he most say,
that limy owe who could bring himself sow to speak coal-
deafly es the subject, menet be of a very differsot frame of
dud from his owe. He thought that before a mail neeet•
inn should be decided on, the measure ought I. meek, the
most carets! consideration.

Mr. H AVI LAN D beued to remark, that ere • smodeo. of
the comity could be assembled, SOM. Oise lust evemaavai
elapse, during which a specific propmetiem might be pre-
Hpared. Is reply to what bad fallen from hie liosibeip, Mr.
arilead said, that is Ike east of Sows the Mod was sot,
perhaps, so well cultivated as it bad bees ems time wham'
this was owls, to dee liability of dm farmer.
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Mr. ELLN AN, jun. is reply to owe part of his Lordship's
speech, begged to reed au extract hem the Report of the
Agricultural Committee Fur example, let it be dipposed
that oa the 15th of depot next, the average price of wheat:
ascertained in the usual mode, should be TOL lid per trader,
whatever may be the pomehle orsatioese of the forth coming
harvest (a fad oat thee capable of being ascertained), the
ports will ressaia shut till the 1511 of November; hat if
that average oboold be See. Id. whatever may be Ibs &bon-
uses of the foram:leasing harvest, the ports and the ware-
hoaxes of &digs dam will be swelled at least for six weeks,
aad is sU refereed to the pried* 'sporting counties fur
three soontbs." In ISIS, the ports woe ispeo, sad so leas
tide 111,001 quarters of foretogn wheat were 'exported,
which thus met the early sad abisadant harvest of the follow-
ing year. The supply for Lnodots was estimated at MAO*
qoarters wetkly,oae-eighth of which would have beets foreign
dire. New either 000,000 sore quarters of English aad
Irish wheat would have bees assumed, or some of the im-
peded's of foreign wheat must still remain unsold. Is Jame
lad, he knew that 50,000 quarters remained on hand, which
the factors had orders to sell whenever it reached a 'retitle
price. The caoseqstesee was, that the Loader market, which it
was well knows bad as astouishing iedretee ow all others,
had, till the last harvest, bees much depressed.
Lord EGREMONT, adverting to an overflow of stock in
the markets, said that it might be mated either by too great
a growth, or by the poverty of the farmer forcing his go
mead his eons foe sale. If the latter were the easkie.,eit must
be expected that in the spring a kaietty would take place,
sad corsoqueogly that prices would rise. His Lordship
goostlooeti that he had sot yet eatkd is his Michrselasits
reds; use individual institute of Ibis bind might be of little
semi, but if all could afford to do so, the greatest beselit
would result._

Mr. HITCHINS was of opinioo, that the prissary es**
of the presisol dist/revs was to be found in she rcasimptiew of
ea•h payments, and the cuw•quent disainutsun rut she ewes•
hating swediuw, which bad the effect of checking 'Teetotal's.;
since now she agriculturist had heather inclusstoon nor awes
to iodelge is it. He believed that t►is year would nut ex
pint without tins ports being opened. If the growth of our
owe cavalry be too large, the qoestioss, is ►ss opinion, re.
solved itself lute a small faros. By laying on f welts ran
a ditty equivalent to the poor rates end ether charges, wish
which the English farmer has to contend, sod of *high the
(welter,' Inset/ nothing, the forgoer would be proposed. It
was well kuown that the foreigner would hi icy cure into our
market' at EH. sad SI. 10s. which II was irapoesiblr for
the English farmer to do. Pursuing Nub a system as he
reetwensesidcd, no locking-op of the ports would he *erne•
earl. nes agrieoltorists said Mr. H., had never reerivesl
great groats; and aow, all that they asked was a fair seinen
for their capital sod soilestry. As an iodlvidual be twold
truly say, this was all that he wished. He Ilettl no oblivion
to rise early sad work Mud; but he looked for, what he was

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+frets, thou* grog eudisaishes • day thorn til;BHtt:g th..to
others, bus Hies it vies followed by • • oo tun •.f maw, b.O
nom The sericukuther,he repeated, only came forward to
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a due remesteredism for industry— to Ask that nu @Mean-
I Says should be Rive. to the faecittier whieh they alit Might
riled be permitted hi me*.
Mr. ELLIIIAN, jail. ailreradat I. what he hid before
-illifi, rriallift to the ineemittetioe of 60,600 reverters of
thnitiegli wheat, fee *hide there bed beeu mu occasion, mad
Ilse fellownag dime tetiottlis evidence of Mr. Took (a Item
the siserehaiit) Wore tie Consmiticr of the How., of Corn.
mom :-..." Why dared II dearest principle apply to corn
than thy other general prodisetioe ? Because a fall in the
peke of thy ether commodity, out of general nreessity.
Wisp the article witbie lbs reach of the coesumpt ion of a
greater number et isdivideals, whereas in the case of corn,
the average quautity is sulkiest for the supply of carry
iedividual; all begged that is an absolute depre.sion of the
nineket Om a great tenet of lime, and • Decettesioe of even
two or three abundant less... Moat evidently produce an
osonthisely hicisoveeleist asseistheistion."—A Is there nut •
greaser miesoniptioe of curs wises it is cheap, than when it
is dear, ash" traistity ?-4111tere may be, and possibly most
he a greater ethouniptioa ; het it is very evident that if the
popolation was before adequately fed, the inerearred coo-
glldelpitiii• from absiadateee ciao amount to little mute than
waste, and this would be be • very small proportion to the
' hook cadres of a good harvest ere two." If this were cur-
wet. the principle weed he the same, whether the price
mare Intl or low. If there was in ISIS sulkiest core in
Ilhe eisoistry, it followed that the 800,000 quarters of foreign
Arid Most have reassigned till tele; and ens harvests bring
they must continue upsold through the years 1819,
, sod 11111. Mr. E. ailed on Mr. Durrant to say,
mbesber, if this importatith bed nut takes place, the prieee
Oasts would have bees what they actually are?-11r. D.
. pegilled its the negative.
Mr. MARTIN stated, that Le was acquainted with a Roes
den merciless in Lando*, from whom he learned, that if oar
peels should be opened for the importation of foreign grain,
be would he enabled, through hie Rassiao correspondent;
lbeirbsen be acted as a commission broiler, to pour in ow
less Si.. 160,000 quarters at thee into this country. . The
laid is Russia, it was kaoli; was sot cultivated by formers
as is this country, but by the Nobles of the country, sod by
time Nobles the merchant to whom he alluded was employed
in hew the look-out fur their ill tin Ibis country, or to
be is readiness for the disposal of their produce, should an
opportunity offer by the opening of our ports. The supply
which he had mentioeed, Ibis Merchant said he could irarotte
diesel; import from Riga, which every intelligent markets°.
riot who heard him meet both to be of the best wheat is
Iliteagit; get that wheat, hi oseresetile friend told him,
could he gold at 111.. last, which last was equal so two limns
of wheat. The freight world be only U. • last, as be under-
stood ;- se that two lodide of Ituaniea wheat could be sold in
*or market at 141. while, eves sow, our whoa was at IW. La
load. What, them, Moil be the irooditith of the apricot's,-
rusts if their ports should be opened' Their ruin, and that
of other classes, who seemed to think their interest distinct
from that of the agriculturist, most infallibly be thesowar-
queue,. To guard, then, amtiost such • calamity, the rept-
eohottsie should proceed to action as early its pobeible; they
should lay their coos before Parliseseet and the country, sad
the strength of that case could not fail to texture anemia,.
Nothing, Indeed, should be omitted ou the part of the smi.
culturisto to avert the cloud that threatened to burst epos
them, and to save themselves cod the country from ile-
'crevice', while It was yet practicable to do so. There-
fore, he was an advocate for a county meeting, or for soy
other proceeding that promised to-give effective expression
to the opinion, and adequate publication to the case of the
agriculturists.
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Lord EGRIEMONT thought a county 'tweeting a eery
unfit place for the investieatioe of • question of this datum;
for the details seeesearily connected with such a question
could never he duly eousidered or discussed at such a Met.
lag. But with what view should • coualy meeting be con-
vened upon this subject' Was it with • view to petihius
Parliament? If so, he recommended the Geottemes who
supported that proposition to consider that they applied to
Partismeat lest Seethe, end what toad had they dose diem-
selves or their case by that application ? They should emu.
eider also the geoeral mom a the euuntry upon the were
and pqrpeoe of their application to Parliament, ma that
they sever could obtain their object without the assent or
io contradiction to the derided opiuioo of the other 'Moth
of their countrymen. The population of the country MR
as he had already isbotoved, increased within the loft sett
years no lee than thmeereath. It was quite incredible that
mei Memoir Amok' met produce se additional demand for
corn. He believed that within the last two years oar apt-
classicists had to roroottltr very little or nmhing of comps,
them from Amiga corn. The aviculinriste had out bong
sines .so opportimity of having from Parliament a toad:-
Hasid arrusigomeet as to the import of foreign earn, or a
pertheent duty arms that import, nod they chose the twiner.
MM the agriculturists complailted. According to his °w-
iliest, the pormseewt duly would have heen better for those
agriedteriele, while that duty would have been paid t.y
foreigners.—(Appfauses )—Bot be enefessed that he fear
great clinically epos the whole of this question; and P.
*otiose wish was, to ascertain what could be done for Me
agricetturists, or whet others proposed to du. He er•she,t,
however, to have something nefiwite and distinct proposed,
before say farther proceeding was determined open.
Mr. EI.LMAN, jaw. after expressing the t:tmost respect
for the judgeseet of the Noble Chairmen, carrot& his opt•
Moo that amebic application to the House of Commune
ups. this es* et 'weld be highly advisable. It was iteces•
wary, indeed, to satiety tor, mind of the ogricsilturists, shat
something farther shoold be dune. He had reason to ire-
lieve that the Report of the late Agricultural Commttriot,
which was thee before him. WIN 041; carried by a•llla.l•l*::1
of Iwo. AU the Cowin; Members, indeed, who ewe up...,
the Committee, were unettiouteslv agesost its adoption ; and
still
retaining their views. it was the wish of those fret eh-
vocal.. for agrleettute, that the mrriculturrqls theitrvoir4
shenid come forward to declare their uwa opinion. li, m.
deed, the agrledlorists did not mike such declarstioo, Owe
oilvocatee is !soberest most fees themselves denevimi bit
thaw whom they endeavoured to serve. BO the •Repailt of
she late Committee bevies been laid before the poldiertfoir
their conooderstion, it was the dory of those moat WM.
Juktelyrottsro.4o4 to state their appralsatia• or thapptheas
lion Write purport or teodeney. He ha, themilithi, Labile
occasions to draw up muse Height boos fusindoiloperosmit
Report, end if their tenor were nut borne our by firs
etee.l, be wawa be smarty Is admit that •11. that bed been
done by the Agrieshiserid•eiciations was egregiously midrib
Tiprott Kesulniieus woredie felt,tatiox hor, but be weeled
submit time le the Cuttaidilatinal of the ineetingeto.bc die.
posed otos its superior liniment /might think peeper., .774 e
irat Itassibitioa referred to the cause which Mid coliestosi or
' many tic fees together on lleteveireasion, and it ebthit.iy
could flisosestriiiisry csare_shat.ssissid 'micro. industrials,
' dominate men to leave their hu...iess soul Winos, and cure

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takiag mum of slop hadmornme of the tenantry, aoA
theesseisimig fo itevehe the whole of she presto race of
farmers, is 4. apartment*. rbsty white they owe to shoo-
Arlo, sod &ening, pol la Sims ommerritie einem of society
depsiodant S. them for emplagnion bell angpors, to otdea-
veer, by every legal asenes, to avert sod • grarval calamity.
4 ma lo sloe hos Sessiems of Poliameal. essfiriete is ewe-
*Pluto, •f the ►espectaW Petition• mended, to the Le-
Kintnere frees all parts .1 the kiwiloomot Select Cormasitire
the flassiof Conmeine was appoiond, owl • diverted to
itslitlwl hate the alkalies, of these Petitions; old to re.
, part their obeervatione /herata.t• the Horne.
"That the Repro, which .as wade by • majority of the
said Committee, although allowing to detainees wood the
distress of the tenantry ea alleged la their Petition, and
admittiog the justice of their claims (which indeed it was
impossible to deny), is ueseribeless a torosagThei IN re*.
suiting its/mat parts Wog se directly opposed to AN con-
seined in other rots of the ante Report, se to leave the
present race of fanners very little hope of escape from irre-
trievable trio, Neese Petition, and in still greater num-
bers, be presented to Parliament I. she rosisiag Soave,
...Meg forth their dreadful and melancholy situation, sod
praying fur immediate relief.
. That the emit Report, at page 1, admits that, ' in their
judgment, the cumplainta of the Pristiostem are feasisded is
fact, is so far as they represent that, at the present price of
yore, the renews to the occupier of as arable farm, after al-
'osiers for the interest of his investment, are ►y as maims
adequate to the charges and esti:Dins, of which a waiseidee-
able portion can be paid only oat of the capitals, and not
from the profits of the te•astrye—thwe 'Mewing how ra-
pidly ruin is overtaking all occupiers of arable land. That
the asid Report, as page admits that the. preemet oyster*
of Cite Laws leads ' to aggravate the evil a scarcity,
and to render more severe the depression of price from
abundasee.'—And at page 13, it admits that should the
average of the six weeks, preceding t►e 18th of August, he
801. Id. per quarter, fur wheat, whatever may be the abun-
dance of the forthcoming harvest, the purls and the ware-
houses of foreign awn will Le opened fur at least six weeks,
and in ',terrace to the principal exporting comities, for
Wee months thus folly acknowledgieg that the present
Cora Laws are no protection to the British farmer.
" That the Select Committee, at page It of the Report,
• empress their meal meekly to ' suggest so Parlisnest, as •
matter highly deserving of their future consideration, whe-
ther • trade is corn constant', open to all nations of the
world, and subject oily I. such • Axed duty as might Mat-
prostate to the grower the loss of that encouragement
'which he received dairisg the late war from the ob-tseles
throws is the way of free issportatms, and thereby protect
the capitals now vested is agriculture from as inseam*,
coMpelition is the horse market, is not, as • pernieurot
system, preferable to that state of law by which the
cora train is now regulated.' The Committee also add,
that • it would he indispensable for the just rerrn.
stun of this principle, that such duty should be colts.
lased fairly to countervail the differenee of expose, itschid-
tee the °Misery vale of profit, of producing it in any of
there countries from wheece our principal suppler' of ha
Vries corn have usually been drawn, joined to the ordinary
charges if cuaveyiwg it from direct to our markets.' Ilins
lidinistiog in its fullest extent the principle fur which the dd.
ferret A/Aeolian, Associ■tioaa have ■t all tittles contend-
▪ •rl:—A dot, err aft foreign produce, f 0 art amyl*
ar which ear own soil is COMffellialtequel to Ma dal/item:it
Ys She expense of raising it, here and abroad.
Thai after reading these arguments so ably put, and ao
impossible to wrote, it is with the greatest surprise that we
Awl it stated in the same Report, that by the present Coro
Caws, there is an absolute prohibition against the intro-
duction of every deseriptiuss of foreign grain, meal or guar,
tutu the consumption of the United Kingdom, okra she
average prices, neeertained according to the mode established
former arts, are below certain specified rates i• when is is
treown, so far from this being the Cole, that any quantity,
however ettlimited, of foreign grain, meal or flour, im-
ported previous to the shutting of the poets, is, from the
mimeos it arrives, amalgamated with the Brinell corn, and
inter into the elinsemptive of she Untied Kingdom foe
mooths, nay, years afterwards, although the p. ire pity ban
fatten fifty per eels.. belie such specified ratee--which hoe
twee folly exemplified by unr having hurt foreign cars feat
foe sale we the London market, fiom the 15th February,
MIS, to the very day the Report of the Select Committee
was made, 181b.fatie, 1821, a period of Nearly two years •std
*half.
Flat this Preting are the more surprised at this de-
Striptiost of the present Curn Laws% au pier I, seeing that it
is an divert upproaitien to the description gives of them is
lime 13 of the same Report.
v That this meesiog slro feel great surprise that the R.
"Ferri sionold state that • the ruiumely low rites of agri-
cultural produce, at this wument, (annul be ascribed to soy
attfleteterty to the proteetieg power of the law. Thai protec-
toral causal be ranted further than monopoly, and that this
monopoly the HMCO. grower has enjoyed for the produce of
sletwo last harvests.' When the very defkicarg its lAs pvio
isidiep poorer of film line, which the Hub. Committee as
trre!y •d.aat is. !race 13 os the Repo. t, a. quoted &fere, was
Ist'. advantage of in IRIS. when the ports coutimed nom
for thrar mouths after the 15th of August of that year, by •
very small races above the import prier, at the moment we
were 'eloping an early and abmoilent harvest, awl when we
did toot stand in seed of n stogie bombe! of foreign grain ;
sad that in the 'militate of this meetiug, owe great.cause of
tie orrice' 411 mm-sea the has been the immense iro-
purteltuu which then took place, superseding the use of au
rms.! quantity of It.ilish corn, and glutting the markets of
1t.,, tosigdion oath foreign eons, comparatively untitled and
* dated.
'That erre it possible ti take oncteath of all foraign
produce imported fur tithe, one-tenth for the relief or the
poor, rote-tenth for the repairs of highway", comely rates,
church rates, lee ; a•d two-trathe fie the rummest of.the
'mania, debt, pay of army mod navy, support of Govern-
ment, sail so Furth; the British farmers would trot object to
the wham/010h of all fureign pi °duce, duty free ; but till this
hr d. e, tho y merely pray for such a duly to be Moored tab
impurlatios heir, as may be equal to those expenses to
whirl, nue own produce is 'objected ; so that the British
mad I uangn farrurr may meet ma equal terms i■ the Boorish
maakel.
That the Report of the Select Committee, in briefly
Noticiuc the rmidertee of slime of the Petitioner., who gave it
• a. their opinion that a duly of 40. per quarter would be the
lowest ...Isom, of duty stoat could secure the British farmer,
stales as.ao objection to the prupoaitiou, that it would be a
14.„1,isult ~,,, except irs seesou• of scarcity. But that this
mettiug, a., far (rum thinking this an evil, suppose that
e.t.a laws are ....acted fur this express purpose. Tney sn the
some reafiimei iii this (yllllllll, as they fiud in the Report .of
the Select (:romonittoe of the House of Commons in 1511,
Mich sat u• tb,• same subject, the fullowiug word. um this
♦ery pasiat Looking to she impatient change in our
silsamii, to the aensmianee whack we now enjoy, and to the
great mil entensire improvement !nude is cultivation both
here and so Ireland, yam. Committee cannot bat 'NOMA,
• more that we have nearly stylised at that stale its a
Nothing hut a discouragement said coosequeut fattiest u:112
ota• ewe agriculture cam again strive ■s to the necessity Of
Img g so large imp ort...Mos of &mire eons, ItICEPT
■ovustUsett sgAraoxg, ahem it may be 'Necessity to
11111111 A tw ibis rewuter to rapid, the deficiency of our Own
hareest.'
" That although the Report of she Select Committee or
Jell, in our part, retuallneudis a OVA duty as the best pos.
Ode peartecti ~,, lie the agriculture of she United kingdom;
▪ be souther pees, it maiwadere the pressiet ammo wait
for assitiog smelt alleratteel. It reconneude • cu•tiaaaucc
sent ge *pleas 'epilog, however, that lite
• should Ise homed; because, the Report schlg,
that the duty Mould otherwive net ally check

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tern thee, sot the ease them is the kept that sense measure
wht ie he a.stelf is etaidoce to tisk relief or deliver-
• aura. T• justify emelt • hope, aad to advsace the object of
thaw who easettaiasal ha had ,sutures Hades* up the W-
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.h..d, godwith yer,
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rtatri--aad tbe ~thy fiestlaisaa 'bra rtad the SA-
kowtow
" That at • matamit trio, isina is.. is gaily agar.