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ESTER WATER iVORKS' DILL.

f BESSOROUGH ‘7.lOat this
third time to-inorrow." •
' WlLraa suhtnitte,l to th'e consider-
louse, that the Standing Orders hail
flied with, and it was sO stated by the
is the re-commitment ; therefore it
sreach of another itanding Order if •
t•tl further with the Bill.
CIFIANCELLOtt was also of opinion.
void lint pass further, when, to five
Sees, the Ordertof that House had not
I with.
tiswoo was inclined to think there
'stance, no necessity for the Staraliug
emly with its true spirit cud 'newt-
uOierl with. There was a particular
Hill itself, which provided that no
rat' property couid he infringed on
onsent of the owner.
s.trt: observed, the Noble Lord (Her-
he was in the right, always argued M-
A when he was in the wrong. he ar-
gcrtioasly and metaphysically.—Still
ts totally failed ou this occasion; for
than the proprietors of lands through
e of coital was to pass, might be in-
were entitled to notice, aceordiog to
ig Orders, which had originally been
I l.y liiosst;r.
MULL and Earl GHOSYnNOR spoke
of CAIILISLE and 1119SLYN thought
ight he dispensed with.
r further fonveraatitni. it was agreed
'he motion; rod
of Basoottouom moved, " That the
de: bo,takett into coicrideration to-
he purpose of deteriniiiiiig Whether or
to he dispensed with. jetid that the
unlisted.'--.4 4reeri
notion of Earl Gaosviteon, the third
is Sale of Officer' Bill was postponed
w.
kr•tion Duties' Bill, the Friendly
slid tOe Insolvent Delitors' nisi,

gh Committees, and were reported,
htmendotwot.

ti!lare Regulation Bill, and the Ship
, after receiving mime voila amend-
throu,gh Comtitittem
41 or tin, Illacker:AN Sunday Tolls
tight up, and stgrred tn.
Orders of tie Day were then disposed
louse adjourned.
HOUSE OF COMMONS.

n of Sir Cm** r.te Pmt.►, the Papers relative
ghat were nederrd to be prlntrd.
Wad Vaal Bill MIN read a third tine, and

Titutroe gave settee, tint be traeld, tarty
itts, whelk a mews to she House, epee the
laeowee-Tax, eel= Hie abjestre Mseisters
olterattimme, its the men time as it eacte
es lower dere. of eueely. Sag irnei=eisre
atsotot emits say et the gait Win

, .
In their plates.. salted In Ronoirable Geollettad rippsite,
whether it was their inteetiou to weal those onfortudate per_
sons, in India, who had obtained satiation, through irregular
Or oik!! fOr4OS ?
Mr. Du tro.ts replied, i` at it was not their iatentioa to
depart hum the Resolutie • • 'hey had adopted.
tin T. 'VUITTON then pee notice, that, on Wednesday
nest, he wroth' submit a 'alcohol relative to °Minoan pru-
millgated on the subject of the rend of those prisons.
The House weld into a Counnittee on the Judges' Salary
Upon the clause for regulating the ray of the Welch
Judges,
Mr. Rix era said, that, front the Report of a Committee,
it appeared iecommended, as a muter of economy, either
that the number of Welch Judges should be redneed, or
abolished altogether, by iucreasing the number of English
Judges, who should perform their circuit.
The ATTORNEY-CrINERAL deprecated any attempt to
transfer the English Jurisdiction to Wale*, particularly as
the Welch did not desire, and had uever expiessed a wish fur,
such a aline.
After a few words from Sir ARTEUR PIGGOTT and Sir
a
wA !II Rout LLY, the clause was agreed to.
Mr. HORNER propos, d a new clause, prohibiting Welch
Judges from practising as Barristers, during the time of the
Assizes.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, he was much averse to
this clause, as it went to throw au unmerited slur upou the
profession.
Sir ROBERT WILLI/1H did not conceive it necessary, as
he never knew an instance In which the Judges had neglected
their duty.
Mr. HORNER said, he had no intention of throwing any
imputation tin a profession which he esteemed as witch as cols
Etta; but reports baying gone about, that such practices
bad prevailed, he should persist in his motion.
The clause, lifter a few words against it by Mr. NATE-
Yal., was negatived without a division, the Rowe reainuod„
suit the Report was or ::red to be received to. 111011011.
A Message from the llouae of Lords iiifur.nc.l the throe
that their Lordships bail agreed to the Irish Distillery Bill,
the Irish Glebe House Bill, the Irish Revenue Regulation
Bill, the Vote of Credit Bill, the Bill Eieregulaiiiig the Oifice
ref the Agent General of the Local Militia, the Irish Bogs
prainage Bill, and several rather Bills.
Lord Cocurtaft E gave 14,11 CC Oka he gimlet, espy ii, Vie
feat Scsdon of Parliament, submit a motion relative to the
• Distribution of Prize Money ; also a anthem relative to Sur-
geons of the Navy ; and also a motion relative to the Futti-
*leathers at Portaimoutb.
Mr. Sze CON withdr.tiv his motion real:wain the appoint-
ments of Maters in Chancery, as the lid dusattun he intend-
ed to obtain was contained is a Jttpurt already before the
Boon.
CRUELTY TO ANIMALS.
Sir Cu./MLitt HUMIDITY moved the second reading of the
Bill to prevent wanton and znalicieas cruelty to anini:do
He said he was happy in the opportunity of sheering himself
friendly to the cause of humanity, and was pleased with the
thought that this Pill was likely io experieNte so opposition.
Cruelty to dumb animals was so orevakast., that it was impos-
sible even to walk down to this House statism witnessing
barbarities shocking to their fechogs; the practice was too
common among youths, to toe disgrace of their parents ; and
men in general dsgrateed themselves by their treatment of
animals which contributed to their ease, and to their con,-
foi ts ; this visas exhibited in the practice of cutting off the
tails of looms, and thus depriving them of the defence which
mature bad gives them, fruits the annoying attacks of flies
god other insects. The injury these animals also received
from the carelessness and wantonness of drivers of
ditiructs, pat-theism, and slap.banga, (a laugh.)
also calierl for legislative interference: be therefore hoped
this Bill would meet *oh the approbation of Parliament.
MI. WI ta on •ss said lie should oppose this Bill, as origin-
ating in false and spurious humanity, and as likely to intro-
duce great mischief. It 411 a legislative nwaenn., disgrace-
ful and scandalous, because of its iaegual illy; it went to touch
the lower classes of society and not the higher ; and was not
likely to Inhwer its 01411 object ; it would besides open infinite
scenes of yes:at:tin and .eipresion iu the execution of the
law. He concluded unit saying, that he would nut then &s-
-tain the House by eaten..g ,:itd the subject, hut would avail
himself of the opportuints oi-opposiog it in its next stage.
The Bill was the read oi second Ruse, and uedercil to be
eunnuitted to•tuoirow.
SEAT& IN PARLIAMENT.
Mr. Co RWP.P: one". I the order of the day for the
third reading of the Bill. Upon the SPE•e. La
put tong time question.
Sir THOMAS TUN' y • 13k :his opp triunity of
delivering his emittme. - tie g..mmeral me-
rits of this measure, lie declared .i.ias If a decid-
ed friend to inoderate and practical reic.m. It was
his unequivocal opinion, that when cis yeti thou-
seed perscus exercised the elective Irauchise, tor
and in the name of eleven millions, gradual reform
becatne absolutely necessary; but at the same
time, he was equally sure, that repre-
seinatioe was universal nonsense. When. iii
the course of diecussiou upon the present Bifl,
it wia openly misruled, and not contradicted, that
the Treasury kept open shop upon every gene-
ral elector't for the purchase and sale of seats in
Parliament, could any one doubt of the aecessity
of -nine reform in the Representation ? Of course,
th 11, he could not but agree to the principle of
the Bull. lf, iiideeil, the plan proposed by the
Speaker had been carried into effect by the House,
it would, in his judgment. have immortalised the
present Parliament ; the Bill, however, still con-
tained, be thought, aufiicient of good in it, to call
for his assent to it. During the discussion of the
daises, a form of oath to he taken by the Mem-
bers had been proposed; this was objected to, and,
after a debate of fourteen or fifteen hours, and
when so attempt had been made by himself to
modify it its Inch it 111:11111eT, as, he thought, world
have removed all objection, then came out, for time
first time, the objection to ally oath whatsoever Ise-
in arli aa itt istered. This he considered as a uritici-
pal fault. Another objection taken by those who
support the Bill in its present form, was to the re-
jection of the word ‘. exprem," in the elapse
pro-
hibjting contracts for seats ; this, in his opinion.
rendered the Bill vs) far faulty ; but still the recog-
nition of the principle was to he found is it, and,
as such, lie was determined on voting for it ; own-
ing, at the same time, that it had, in its progress,
from its introduction to its present sitar, greatly
sieseppoitited his expectation.
Mr. JOHNSTONE strongly opposed the Bill. In
Minsideting the present system of representation,
ea cotnpared with past scenes of oar history, he
esmaidered three MIA so much virtue to he found,
M should make Gs tender, at least, iti applying
reamoilies, without being enabltd to foresee the coupe-
quences, which, according to the event, might turn
oat good or bad. As for instance, who omit' have
Iticeseen tile effects of the Mutiny Act, at the time
of its adoption ? that it would have turned out
the main niter of the power of that llonse.and been
productive of so mulch benefit to the country ?
I litiserto the proceedings of that House have been
guided by tie' priaciple, that all remedies have
gradually followed the devefopement of prac-
tical evils. (Cries of Near! hear!) That
comment might have its weights if it were true
that the esserbou, so often repeated. in the course
of the present diseansioa, that the Treasury was a
mart for erste ITT that House. was roundest in fact;
but he denied that any such ere was amok out. la
all fortiler owes that House was is the habit et

brought

• •
waiting, till proof was made of the charge, ind as he
was not disposed to take assertion as a substitution,
he should wait till proof was Actually brolight
tLr-
ward to substantiate the charge. Although nbuses
were asserted to exist at the present dal, yet, it
was remarkable, that during the whole of the pre, .
'wet discussitm, no one Member he it undertaken to
demonstrate that lees abuses had existed -it any foe-
mer period of the Constitution ; therefore he C:11.1..
siderecl it as rendering an esseutial heitetit to the
public, by demonstrating, there was ne pretence to
tiring the Constitution back to its original purity.
For these reasons, he voted against the tell.
Mr. Ansetcanwav said, he felt linnet-If hound
to state his reasons for voting Alpinist the Bill as it
stood at present. Whee a motion was lately made
in that House, to refer to a Cotnesitter the consi-
deration of the case of a Noble Lord, charged with
havnig trafficked in a seat there, the.lititise had re-
fused the motion, and he had concurred in such
refusal ; not only because such practices .were
openly avowed upon that oetiesioit, hut because
tbe present Bill, its its original shape, had been at
that tune introduced by his Hoe. Friend ; and he
had then hoped and believed, that the House would
have set itself seriously to the work of pergine
itself-ehowlever, us It appeared by the event, that
the House had not thought proper to redeem the
pledge, he could not bring himself to vote for
the bill in its present shape. lie would agree
with the seittimetit of the lion. Bart. to take the
good it offered, if lie could find any such; but lie
was convinced it could elect none, as only adding
to tee • Atte:lee Already possessed by the Crowe.
He could not believe the House was seriously in
earnest neon the present occasion, white every
form of oath, intended as a test, wits rejected ; as
nothing was more clear thee that some sort of oath
was necessary to prove the purity of the Member
possessing a twat. There was one retnaining ground
of objection Keenest the present Bill. The purchase
of seats in Parliainetat was said to be contrery lint!)
to the law of Parliament and the law of the laud ;
but the present Bill does not designate as such, all
agreements for that purpose, but only- all "ex-
press" agreements. This was indeed a new term,
and could only apply, iu its plain and ordinary
signification, to agreements under hand and seal.
There was no man m mad as to involve himself in
such a prediestneta as this, and they might as well
apply the principle to the case of murder, and
expect that in all eases of proof, there should Ice
witnemes present tit the perpteretion, to prove the
deed.
Sir THOMAS TeeTON said a few words in expla-
nation.
Mr. HERBY THMINTCHI declared himself in
favour of the Bib ; although not as n *warm frieud
to it, as having su I -rtid so materially for the worse,
in the course of to passage through the House.
When doubts were teund to exist respecting the
purchase of seats, 44 it fair they should be left in
the muse state, e. a rially when any thing which
would have place tmeeto matters on the footing of
certainty, would Ica . e rendered so material a err-
vice ? The bill certainly, us declaratory of the
principle, he considered a good (me. nod so far de-
'arable ; and though the clauses tended in sonic
degree to defeat the object cf it, yet he trusted
the publicity given to that object would serve
to pet down the' practice it prof--sod to abolish.
If the will was evinced by that Houtee . must cer-
tainly have the effect. One complaint was, that the
great eersona ;es of the state were engaged lit the
traffic for seats ; amid with what face could they no-
tice the tnikor offeeees of electors taking brews for
their votes, when such a traffic was notorious? Upon
these principles he should give his support ill the
Bill. He wished indeed the wo-d express" had
been left out, though only applied to the incurring
the penalties enforced by the act, as all cases of im-
plied contracts for seats were, by the existing sta-
tutes, contrary to law.
The SECRETARY at Was declared he would sup-
port the Bill. tie was not one of those who wished
for any alteration in the present Couktitutioti. He
was decidedly of opinion, that if the greatest talenti
of every age, assisted by every, meaus, and sup-
ported by every facility, were to-be brought tar-
dier, they could not forts a perfect Constitution
for any country to once. Evils could truly be ree
medied as they successively arose. On these prin-
littlest it was that he professed himself a warm
admirer of the British Constitution, end an
enemy to what was popularly called Reform.—
He dd not think it titiceseury to increase the popu-
lar influence; On the contrary, he feared the cur-
rent was ruimitig the opposite viay—the people
might have too much influence within that !louse,
us they might have elsewhere. He certainly wished
the Bill had never betel introduced ; but as it was,
he would vote for it; because, after it had been ltd.
tuitted, iu the course of the discussion, that seats
were bought aid sold, that I louse could never go
beck to the situation it was in, before the introtlue-

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bon of the. Hilt.
Mr. Auatas dated, in strong terms, his objections
to the bill, and particsolialy enlarged upon the ions
propriety of introducing the word "express' into
the clause relative to Offices. lie thought it war
iinjoissible to consider the subject properly during
this ss•ssiem of Parliament, awl therefore the best
thing' they could do, would be to reject the Bill, sod
say that it should be brought forward next session.
The more he considered the bill, the more he saw
the necessity of bringing it forward in a more per-
fect shape.
The SOLICITOR-GENSISL supported the pro-
priety of introducing the word "express" in the
clause relating to the granting of.olficts, as it was
a word introduced into the most common Acts, and
such as were daily in use, such as the statute of
frauds and periaries. After the doubt that had
liven expressed upon the subject iii question, he
thought it was highly proper that a legislative niesi-
sure /should be adopted, mid the present one hieing
the best that had yet been suggested, he should e'er-
taiiily support it.
-
Lord Ailictilnst.D HAIM:row disapproved of the
Bill, as one that was hostile to the true principles
of the Constitution, and a slangeroua experiment to
be tried upon the present occasion ; for he believed
that there were not actually fire lines reinventing of
the. Bill as it originally stood. What remained of
it would only tend to throw into the bands of the
Treasury all the power that remained as to traffick-
ing for seats in Parliament; and therefore he
should wish to see it emir* Ibises.' out, and

to the

Malty or
the saimt
of property
the practv
rectify.

Mr. D.
any of
upon thi:
influence

both pecui

emiurivieni

ly to a share

not aufficienl
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the public
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single week, than all the corruptions that had
isted siime the revolution. No Government could
act more improperly than owe that refused to coy.:
rect aliases where they actually did exist; but still
those who excited the publie passions should he
perfectly aware that by doing away an evil of small
magnitude they might probably blow up a ferment
that would be worse then the evil complained of.
After the best consideration he could wive to this
Bill, he thought it might repress some corruptions,
but it would have some other effects that 'Lai& be
..lictitvontaecous. As, upon the whole, it would tend
to beneficial coueequencer, he should vote for its
third reading.
Sir FRANCIS BURDETT thought the Bill itself
was very unimportant as to the redress of that
grievance that seemed so universally acknowledged
to exist. It should rather be called u bill of indein-
nity uirters for what had passel, than a Rill in
give security to the country fur the future. He
was principally called up in consequence of the in-
sinuations that hod been thrown rot by the
Member who had just spoken, against those ituti-s
viduals who professed themselves' to be the adios
cater of Reform; of which nueitter he (Sir F. t 3.)
ackiinekdged himself to be one. That Hi-n.
Gent. had completely answered himself by his owe
arguments ; as he had set out with uniting pelt-
ticul power with proper'', and deducing the corol-
lary, that places, having a connection with property,
should have their political power. Upon these ground*
he should here theeupptat of that Hon. Gent.for a
Reform in the reprentatiou in Path:intent. 1; he
(Mr. Davies Giddy) were am enemy to corrup-
tion, he (Sir Francis Burdett) would like to know
what he meant by corruption, after stating, that it
would be coutrary to the beat feeliugs of nature.
for a permit accepting an Aim
.to vote otherwise'
than with those alio gave it to n= ? These being
the sentiments expressed, he should only observe
upon them, that if the cause of Parliamentary Re-
form were not necessary to the salvation of the
country, it was at least necessary to"ita happiness.
Ile should think that the Honourable Member,
who first suggested this Bill, Would be the one
most anxious to opieise its being euseted, for it
contained opinions directly the reverse of his own.
Instead of five lines of the original bill existing in
the present sue, there were only three lines and
three quarters. It would be impossible, therefore,
for that Hon. Member to hare any attachment
to such a suppositions offspring, a changeling
that had been imposed upon him. The origi-
nal bill in fact was entirely melted away, an
as to leave nothing but dross ; and instead -of
being a check or coistroul upon Government, it
would only prove a cover for their future conduct.
It was worthy of remark, that the Right Hon. the
Chancellor of the Exchequer, who must be heated
upon as the author of this present Bill, was our,
who, with his Noble Colleague, stood accuud of
erinien the most notorious, and which had been said
out to be capable of punishment. Although Mi-
rasters HU Lioviledged the existence of
the offence, yet they did not think proper to
apply to the constitution and the law, to re-
medy the evil. Under such a conduct, even
the Hon. Member's Rill, as it formerly stood.
would have been a dead letter upon the statute
book ; for it was well known, for a century past,
that those practices had existed. and cruder this Hill
they were likely to exist for a century to come.
He should 'Sly, that instead of passing this present
Bill, the House bar.! in their hands a more canon-
Whirled simile of pro,etaling. namely, that of mak-
ing a declaratory law on the subject, merely (for
the purpose of stating w;.at the law was as it now
existed. It ass a mere mockery of a lA, and
only bore the iemblance of a 1011, as the
heads in the barbers' shops only bore the semblance
of human figures. It was absolutely necessary that
something should be dune ; and the whole question
was one of reform, or it was teething at all. The
allusions that had been made to him, as to what be
hod said upon other occasions, upon Parliomeutery
tfcrm, were such as were trot called forth by
any part of his conduct or expression.. The con-
victions of his own mind were still as they hod
been, that there was au absolute necessity to bring
back the Constitution to what it formerly had been,
and what we were still entitled to have it. He was
at any time ready distinctly to declare what he
thought upon the subject, and he must say, tbst
they were now to that situation that it we. utterly
impossible the House could break up without also
tanniiig to some declaration upon the subject.•-•
The present measure could never satisfy the
public, but would only aggravate the evil.—
It was not only an injury, but an insult to
the country. It had cowed chagrin, and dis-
appointed the hopes of its belt friends. Although
at firs: it was a kind of political Messiah, held up
by the wise men to encourage hopes mid expecta-
tions ; yet no sooner had it appeared, than like Diw
cord insinuating itself, it canted every one to d.s•
agree with another, and haul produced an effect
directly country to that which it was stated it
would produce. He ilia slot believe that the hills
even as it onguially stood, cool.' have solidied the
nation, who were in general mote n 1141113,01 limo

"altered
:30111, !SIMMS (ins regret, a
km* aA he did on the i
Ile wee aware (hut it requir
he siewposstosed of. to mit
cflitiaie ; and therefore he
the Bight Hon. Gentleman
embark in it. Same apuloi
the Noble Lord behind
Curates') known that it
take up the subject, he win
It WAS said, by very high
House did not take some
seats would be bought and
that measure did not tak
they would arrive at tha'
there were many difficaltie
Zion, which he did not fo
William and Mary, ho let
oath impracticable. If 31
end to, some regulation •
able voters to vote in th
Honourable Baronet behi
the metwure, in its preset
in ins (Mr. C.'s) view, it wa
of money how office, whit
terial object. The Heaton
tented it as a bill of indem
corruption ; but lie (Mr.
such, nor could he salmi
such an effect. lie dud in
to all that he bad dente iu
The Hon. Baronet had hi.
forward a measure to tl
glad of it; the public wot
of forming an opinion win
He hoped, that if the
could be advantageously
with more sueceis that:
not prejadge the quest
bill would, even in its p
the country au intention t
Such were his opinions; I
experience, be had the
mind, and while he bad tl
popularity might tarn, I
bill was adopted, he wont(
would willingly support
to remove tne inconvenii

Mr. WINDHAM said, tl
House hut for II short
considered totally changer
when the question was th.
and he saw no reason to e
question, when the mean
not be considered a differ,
snaintaiii the contrary :
Distesos solids. c
He ha I opeosed the Bill
in conserpience of the fur
necessity was 111;tde to re,
the rciumnisigs by which i
to the corrupt aroceedin;
elation of it. ht denied t
far as it was coutesuled fo
had been said, that die 13
it ; bat those who were st
how they would inflict a w
never be healed. In the F
try. noel of the public mu
should be avoided ; but I
pie, instead of healing, si
trite it. %%lien his Homo
be could not ;pi the whol
would 1,,e satisfied with a
it required but an applit
• • that a half a loans bra
when he said that he wool
reform, he (Mr. W.) mum
preheading his meaning. t
that itwas a beard of is mon
question was the sitnatio
Mice, in his epioion. was
seated. It might be
the irregularities of m
they considered that it
tags which tenst.al to t
ment, its justification
appear hi a stronger
that lake:ice had sue,
Mon 'in which Black,
Burke, *eft all agreed.
*ways to govern men---t
Interests, and by an opi
influence was rejected.
thoold be had recourse ea
one upon such a male!, t
them, by which they mig
Bonaparte had no mane
and it was the pouseseion
influence unnecessary to
reality lay within a small
with a terapomrypopnlia
grading submission; he
they who attempted any
selves mistaken ; it was a
not likely to pus enrrent
the measure had ever been
nothing, he considered tit
politic can injurious, and
Ile thenight, that by excli
they would throw all the i

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•
•
it in again the •
whbn Gentlemen in' •
is
of considering slut was proper. flit *woe
i• time, an advocate for haven the inlistionon
perty fairly and truly appreciated, whoievaT
icticer might be which this lirll profetood. to
•
Davts, GIDDY said. he should not retract
the opinions he had stated to the House
Itis subject. lie still thought, that, so far as
ice should exist, it should attach to property,
ceuniary and landed, as he considered them
rient to each other. Both wereentitled
share in the representation; neither did he
see gentlemen of the army and Gary excluded
le House. The Crown should exercise • call
,le degree of influence over the House of
inns. The mere feeling of patriotism was
(Smut to correct errors in judgment. We
ready seen instances of the effects of this pg=
in inflaming the public passions, as inthe
r the Duke of York, and by hitimating to
blic that millions a year mhzlii he saved to the •
by doing away the Property 'fax, in mows;
eof Perliamentary Reform. He should cois:
that a person holding Forth such rentitneviti
public, would be apt to throw the country+
infusion, and do ten times more mischief Id it

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chamiso tit *At_
neaps' sad
the Jlettlatit sties I)* seal
knoaraisielic, ethettiJae COD
eesaasittor Se as the Cu
of iitit,4B4 .14fate. spd b
be a pledge given to t
subjelitttAefoth.they parted
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and the necessity of taking
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end how far he would not g
weighed the matter in his
related to the grievances a
impartation of the nation.
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single week, than all the corruptions that had esi
'wed since the revolution. No Govestiment could
net more improperly titan one that refused to cot.: ~
rect abases where they actually did exist; but still
those who excited the public passions ohoeld be
perfectly aware that by doing away an evil of small
magnitude they might probably Wow up a ferment
that would be worse than the evil compluined of.
After the best consideration he could wive to this
Bill, he thought it might repress some corruptions,
but it would have wine other effects that might be
disadventageous. As, upon the whole, it would tend
to beneficial cousequeoces, he should vote for its
third rending.
Sir Flee ocis Buenrre thou', it the Bill itself
1
was very unimportant as to toe redress of that
grievance that seemed so universally acknowledged
to exist. It should rather be called a bill of indem-
nity to Monsters for what had pained, than a Bill to
give security to the country for the future. He
was principally called up in consequence of the bi-
' 'notations that had lions thrown oat by the lion.
Member who had just spoken, against those iudi.e
viduals who professed themselves •to he the ad,o.
1 caws of Reform; of which nueilier he (Sir F. E.)
I acknowledged himself to be one. That Hon.
Gent. had completely answered himself by his own
arguments ; as he had set out with uniting poli-
tical power with property, and deducing the corol-
lary. that places, having a connection with property,
should have their political power. Upon these grounds
lie should have the auppos t of that Hon. Gent.for a
Reform to the representatiou in Path:intent. it he
(Mr. Davies Giddy) were an enemy to corrup-
tion, he (Sir Francis Burdett) would like to know
what he meant by corruption, after stating, that it
would be contrary to the best feelings of nature,
for a person accepting an office
jto vote otherwise'
than with those who gave it to n= ? These being
the sentiments expressed, he should only ()breves,
upon them, that if the cause of Parliamentary Re-
form were not necessary to the salvation of the
country, it was at least neertosisy to-its happinese.
He should think that the Honourable Member,
who first suggested this Bill, Would be the one
most anxious to oppose its being enacted, for it
contained opinions directly the reverse of his own.
Instead of five lines of the original bill existing in
the present sue, there were only three lines and
three quarters. It would be impossible, therefore,
far that Hon. Member to have any attachment
to such a suppositious offspring, a changeling
that had been imposed upon bun. The origi-
nal bill in fact was entirely melted away, an
as to leave nothing but dross ; and instead of
being a check or coistroul upon Government, it
Would only prove a cover for their future conduct.
It was worthy of rethink, that the Right Hon. the
Chaacellor of the Exchequer, who must be !setter'
upon as the author of this present Bill, was our,
who, with his Noble Colleague, stood accused of
erisues the moat notorious, and which had been and
not to be capable of punishment. Although Mi-
nisters themselves ackilowlealged the existence of
the offence, yet they did not adult proper to
apply to the constitution and the law, to re-
medy the evil. Under such a conduct, even
the Hon. Member's Bill. as it formerly stood.
would have toren a dead letter upon the statute
book ; for it was well known, for a century past,
that those practices had existed. and under this Bill
they were likely to exi.t for a century to come.
He should wry, ,'sat instead of punt% this remit
Bill. the House ha.! iu their hands a more consti-
tutional anode of prthereling. namely, that of rusk-
Mg a declaratory law ti. on the 1111*(1. merely (for
the purpose of stating w..at the law was as it Moe
existed. It ass a mere mockery of a bdl, and
only bore the Seis.blance of a bill, as the
heads is toe barbers' shops only bore the semblance
of human figures. It was absolutely necessary that
something should be dune ; and the whole question
was one of reform, or it was nothing at all. The
allusions that had been made to him, as to what be
lied raid upon other occasions, upon Parliamentary
r fcrm, were such as were not celled forth by
any part of his conduct or expresainiii.. The con-
victions of his own mind were still as they had
been, that there wu an absolute necessity to bring
back the Constitution to what it formertj• had been,
and what we were still entitled to have it. He ass
at any tune reedy distinctly to declare what he
thought upon the subject, and he must say, thut '
' they were now us that situation that it was utterly
impossible the House could break up without also
enuring to some declaration upon the subjects-.
The present measure could never satisfy the
public, but would only aggravate the evil.—
It was not only an injury, but an insult to ,
the country. It had caused chagrin, and dime
t appointed the hopes of its beet friends. Although
1 at firs: it was a kind of political Messiah, held up
i •by the wire men to encourage hopes and expect*. ,1
1 tions ; yet no sooner had it appeared, than like iii"
r cord insinuating itself. it ceased every one to tl.s.
r agree with another, and hail produced an died
p directly contrary to that which it was stated it
, would produce. lie did not believe that the Bill,
I even as it originally stood, cont.{ have- astiabsd the
nation, who were in general more enlightened than

.ons,
eonsi-
the
g?,

lltirird only
-
poor emotes* his regret, and use the some argu-
krients as he did on the introduction of the bill.
He wee aware that it required 4reater oink' ie.; than
be vies possessed of. ta undertake such a task with
ANS* • and therefore he had signified his wish to
the Right Hon. Gentleman opposite, that he would '
embark in it. Seine apology might he necessary to
the Noble Lord bellied him, but hail he (%lr.
eitroien) known that it was his intention to
take up the subject, be would not have interfered.
It was said, by very high authority, that if the
House did not take some proceeding to prevent it,
seats would be bought and sold without secrecy—if
that measure did not take place,, be feared that
they would arrive at that state. He owned that
there were many difficalties belonging to the ques-
tion, which he ilt3 not foresee. From the Act of
‘Villiant and Mary, ha was incliued to think an
oath impr.ictirable. If all expenses were put an
cud to, some regulation 'should be made, to en-
able voters to vote in their own pari.hirs. The
Honourable Baronet behind him might not think
tl.e measure, in its present state, beileticial ; but
in his (Mr. C.'s) view, it would remove the influence
of money frow Mice, which would be a most ma-
terial object. The Henourable Baronet had refire-
stilted it as a bill of indemnity to the practices of
corruption ; but he (Mr. C.) did not intend it as
such, nor could he understand bow it would hive

such an eifeet. He did not wish to act derogatory
to all that he bad dome iu the course of his life.—
The Hon. Baronet bad himself promised to bring
forward a measure to the same effect. He was
gild of it; the public would have an opportunity
of forming an opinion when it come before them.
He hoped, that if the principles were such es
could be advantageously adopted, it would meet
with more sueceis than bu had. He would
not prejedge the question. Ile thought the
bill would, even in its present shape, declare to
the country au intention to put an end to almatis.
Such were his opinions; whatever fate they might
experience, he had the approbation of his owl,
mind, and while he had that. hatirever the title of
popularity might tern, he was satisfied. If the
bill was adopted, he would be gratified ; if not. he'
would willingly support any measure calculated
to remove tne inconveniences at which his was

•
• •
• _
Ganerument. 7be (lid, its its presEnt gate, was
really not the same us that proposed by his Lion.
Friend. It put him iu mind of a certain proposal
of marriage ; the person who made it being asked ,
which lieu ;liter lie would prefer, ammo' ed, whiiili you
please ; amid in consequence ef his indifference was
told (het he rhould Mane neither ; so, he hoped, the
I loule would uct respecting this Bill.
The CHANCELi oa of the Eacnenern entered
into u spirited vindication of the amemiments lie
had proposed. He conceived that much would be
done by the Bill in its present form ; the preamble
professed to put down the practice of which so
ninny complained, and that was nu small ad-
vantage. With respect to the oath, the Wu.
Cent. himself agreed with him that it could not be
eetablislied. Parliament, by this Poll, would
iie-
dare, distinctly and clearly, the illegality of the
transaction. He rejoiced that the Ruts. liarouct
*mild bring forward his ideas upon reform, and
concluded with declaring his hope that the bill
would pass.
Mt. TILRNEY said, that he had hailed the first
proposal of the Intl by his lion. Friend, as au aus-
picious circumstance for the country ; in its
present mutilated state, lie could conselt r it no
oilier than a delusion of the public. lie ridi-
culed the idea of itwirtiug upon the advaii-
Liges of the preamble, at the same time that
its spirit was done. away by the eurytiraaits.—
Though nu slave to popular opinion, lie thought tint
!louse should be careful of its character. lie
could not give the Right lion. Gentleman much
merit for his sincerity or consistency; he had pro-
fessed to support, but frittered *way the provieions
of the Bill. He feared that if Parliament con-
tinued to act so. the public wo ild be inclined
to say of it as Doctor Jolla:sou tad bald of :Ur.
M`Piserson, that they would be 'tic:ivied to believe
what it did rather than what it said.—More
mischief could not be done iii a smaller com-
pass than was done by the Right Honourable
Gsatleinitn. The Bill M ui, in taut, his. rather
than his (Mr. T.'s) Honourable Friend's, slid,
if his Ron. Friend was resolved to support it, he
hoped it would be as the bill of the Chancellor of
the Exchequer, and not as his own.
Mr. WILISERVORCa opposed the Bill, a4lll said,
if it were suffered to pass, it would stand in the
way of a better measure. If it were rejected;
aun-
ther Bill might be brought in next sesioons. more
perfect, and more likely to ausser the object in
view.
'De House then divided, and there appeared—
For the third reading es
agaiost it
Majority -is
A second division took place nit the question
11 That this Bill do pass, when the numbers
Were—
For the Bill pluming 97
Agai,st it
Majority
Another division took place on the title of the
Bill, when there appeared—
lo favour alike title of the Bill
Against it
Majority

Mr. WINDHAM said, that he would trouble the
House hut for a short while. The measure he
considered totally changed. A cheoge or opinion,
when the rotation was the saute, was a difference,
and he saw no reason to Com:lode why a cheap of
question, when the measure was the seine, shotild
not be considered a difference also. Some might
maintaiis the contrary :
Divers* solidos courponere arnieos.
He had opposed the Bill upon two grounds ; fint,
in conierpience of the foundation Ull4lll which its
necessity wes made to rest ; ands secondly, upon
the rciisociings by which it was accompanied. As
to the corrupt proceedings, stated to he the foun-
dation of it, be denied them ; the corruption, as
far at it was contended for, wits made by law. It
Lad been said, that die Bill had not justice done
it ; bat those who were so violent, ought to reflect
how they would inflict a wound, that perhaps might
never be healed. In the present state of the coun-
try, and of the public d, extremes of this kind
should be avoided ; but he feared that many peo-
ple, instead of healing, would 1w inclined to ace-
trier it. When his Honourable Friend said, that if

be could not gist the whole of what he 'Wight, he
would lie satiAleil with a part, be snide him,
it required but an application of the rjuiying,
that " half a !Danis better than no brawl." But
whim he said that he *mild be satisfied with half a
reform, he (Mr. W.) must be excused for not coin-
prehending his meaning. Of the Bill, it might be said,
that it was a beard of a montleigrowt h. A much wider
question was the situation of the country. it& n-
otice, in his opitlion, was not the evil it was repre-
seated. It might be necessary to correct even
7tltn irregularities of men's reason ; but when
- •• they considered that it war to act against feel-
ings which tenilcil to the overthrow of Govern-
ment, its justification and necessity would
hi a stronger light. if it was said,
,—. influence had succeeded, it was an opi-
• ` in which Blackstone, and Paley, and
Burke, trete all agreed. There were but. three
Ways to govern men—by their fears. by their
loterests, and by an opinion of their duties. If
Influence was rejected. premgative and power
thonid be had recourse to. If they wolied to have
one upon such a model, there was an example near
them, by which they might profit—:hat of France.
Bonaparte had no influence, but he had power;
it was the possession of that power which mule
nence unnecessary to him. The question in
• ty lay within a small compass. A compliance
with a terapomrypopnliir opinion was a 111..4 de-
grading submission; he belicrcil that, in general.
they who attempted any thing lie it, found them-
selves mistaken ; it was a false Birmingham coin.
not likely to pus enrrent long. Ile lamented Ow
the measure had ever been disctimped ; nest to doilyg
nothing, he eonsidered that the attempt to dune the
public was injurious, and calculated to Masi ne them.
He thimeght, that dry excluding tile monied interest,
they would throw a 1 the infliiroce into the hands of

The Irish Freehold Bill was read • third time.
The other orders of the day were then disposed
Of. and the House adjourned at ITALY CAST ONE
COLD BATH-FIELDS PRISON.
The Report from the Commissioners upon the
Cold Beth-holds Prison has been printed, and laid
before the House of (Mininons. The inquiry was
made upon " the petition of Almada. Stephens,
of Perk muse, in the county of Middlesex, and also
of the Honourable Society of the Middle Temple.
Esq." and it states, that he, together with certain
persousthen lately serving the office of Grand Jury-
men for the county of Middlesex, to the her of
abont nine, visited the House of Correction for the
said county, coinumuly celled, " The Cold Bath-
, fields Prison," on Tuesday, November the 3d,
1807, between the hours of eleseo and twelve, in
the forenoon. The Petition contains eight specific
subjects of complaint; and the petitioner then
states. that, " conceiving such gross 'listeners of
fraud, coupled with such en op ois violation of the
laws, CHI also of the express orders of sessions, are
calculates' to bring His Majesty's Government into
coutertipt, and cast an unmerited odium on our
most excellent Constitution ; thinking also, that if
such mid-practices were detected in a casual and
slight survey of less than two boars duration, far
greater disuses are likely to be loromr,ht to light by
the auterventioo of the grand inqueit of the nation ;'
he most humbly and esrtirstly solicited the House
of Commons " to take the premises into consider-
ation, and ► iblic end • examination at its

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it is
turnkey, attracted by the noise that De Blin made:
Mr. Stephens, in his examination, says. they, Ali
Grand Jury, were addressed in French through that'
key-hole; and that, though they were nor pa&
Lively refused entraoce, there wail a considerabbl
degree of hesitation; that hesitation appears to hie
nothing more than the question put by the turnkey
to Amos, whether he should open the door of De
Blin's room which was immediately answered by
Amos in the affirmative; and none of the Grand
Jury, except Mr. Stephens, have expressed srf
idea that leads to a supposition of any Haematite,
preventing them from seeing De Blin: It amok
from the examinatiou of Mr. Drummond sad Mr. •
Grant, that the noise which De BIM made attracted
the attention of themselves and Mr. Stephens in
the yard; and that fdr. Stephens asked Amos who
it was, and was told It was a Frenchman, unausit-
ted by Government, who was out of his mind.
The memorial, which Mr. Stephens states in his
petition De Blin presented to him on his knees, he
admit., in his examination, to be incoherent in the
extreme. This state of De Blin's room appears not
to have made much impression on Mr. Stepbeus's
memory ; for he could not, at the tune of his red-
minatmn, say, whether there was any tire-place in it.
or how many window. it had, or whether they were
glazed ; although, in this section of his petition, he
dates De Blin to have been confined to one of the
lonely calls, which he had in the pcectdiug section
described as being destitute of tire. and open to the
outer air. Upon due consideration of this part of
theme. we are of °pluton. that the conduct of Mr.
Aris, the Governor, and the other officers and 6yr-
_ . .
Chevalier Charles

_. by a put_ . _ .... open -- ..
vents of the prison, towards the .....
bar, or ant other mode, afford such relief as may
De Blom has hero proper and undeserving of can-
seem meet."
sure or reproach.
These eight subjects of complaint, charging ion- to the sixth section of Nlr.Stephens's petition. he
perfect scales for weighing the bread, and oppres-
states. that in this place (meaning the house of cur-
won in the mode of confining certain prisoner., are
rection at Cold lkith-Forlols) originally destined for
orparutely discussed in the Report, and all declared
the impmennetit of the morals of petty offenders,
to be without foundation. 1,1 e select the two fol.
a fmnele prisoner, as he has since learned, has been
lowing caws, as the most interesting : . debauched by the moo of the chief gaoler or gover-
In the fifth section or mr.stel,h,„... petition, lie one, who then held is office of trust in die pll5Oll,
states, That in one of these lonely cells a foreigoler and that she has since bad a child burdensome to.
of some nook was closely co...fined. who, us the the parish of Kensington. The observatiou made
Grand Jury were told by one of the gaolers, had, oil the fifth section erriallyapploes to this; some of
whole so immured, been deprived of his reason, die circumstances stated appear to be trot., but
and who presented to Mr. Stephens (after commu- taken together and considered 3111 a charge of 'lsis-
nicuting sense time with him through the hey-hole, conduct intriontabla to Mr. Aris, the Grow:rotor, or
and demanding entrance) a memorial on hi. knees. any other officer of the prison, they are not found-
S of the corcurnstancts stated in this section, rol in feet. We have prevented to investigate this
taken separately. appear to be true; but die meat charge, and we hod that "Fhotnas An., one of the
important of them, considered as a charge of iris- sons of Mr. Aria, tow Governer, is the person
conduct on the part of Mr. Aris, the Governor, meant in this section of the petition;—that he ne-
have no liindatiou in fact. From the evidence ver was employed in any others .in the poison—bolt
given before us, we find that
in the year Is.'s. when he was about twenty years
t:.ti person described
as a foreigner of *nine rani.. is the Chevalier Charles of age, he lodged width's, fst her in the house with-
De Win, before mentioned ; and that he was coon- in the wall, of the oei,oit,
appropriated to th.,1..
nutted to thus prison on the 34 a Mae. 1 fur. as „„of. In that yer-ra a
woman. named Elisabeth
nn no alien, under a warrant from Loot linwkesbury, Kew. was convicted at the sessions, and sentenced
dated 30th Aped preceding ; and that Mr. Arms to be imprisoned a Tumid' in the House of Correc-
t's...mg being directed by a Magi3trate to prevent time. Mr. Aria, the Governor, being in Court
De him frays ronveramg with another alien, nattiest when sentence was peeled, received directions front
sothener.Jus;tiecneseeinoliwcit toualtiecehoefr
aintlijahewhitehsetheat
hcottictor pit
Enema Martelly, ceasonotted on the same day, or
any other person, he put hum into one of the rooms
on the grand gilarr, which tie call"! the "t4l.* ledge, and holding her a meek, writ-beheolok eff
mains, sod mo described iti.the oogneett Pion of wino, he took berinto his house- to sot ot,e,e,
the prisow le entities out array., we partieshirit Tow. sad eke „Natoli"
w. to.do.
sow her lime
exsak,,,d ibis roots, sad fessid It. to be IS feet evi lbw, which wage/Ithe iosia-411114igew-
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Inches Lang,; feet a relies wide, 44 li filet high:. Mr. Aril atated, that he had Peon it
it hiss a Arc-place anti Iwo griMett &MINIM It aps 'taking *servant from the female p
pears by the esideite..„ that D. I:iiit had ait rie and he has found one nting them that
candles; that lie was ftiriii4itsl nab a tick bleat..As, ut
.erring of being kept apart from min
sheets, and a covet lid, a chair .611 J a table; that a class, or has had a recomtnenda
turnkey lighted i... :ire, 'mute los bed, dratted his Conrt, similar to that which he
mem, aiull attest ltii him three it. 'our times a-day.; casr of Elizabeth Kew. We as no
and, in addition to the priatpi :100w:ince, he was • tale ii! this;
.and indeed it wens to be
supplied with et•ier Mod wit of Om money allowed the 48th role inotle at the :Vichy
by Govertenrot ter his inanit.••tanee. After De 1794. After the time of Elisabeth
Olin had beee erniti•seitalmitt three Weeks, the Go- brinitient ballexpirett, Mr. Arts, tin
mom was anthills/Al to permit non to take axe,- citusequence of her good beharione,
ease in any part of tiot prison is here he could not servant at yearly wages, and slut •
communicate with the other Awn ; stud, in c..re.c- him shout half a year, and then left
quence, he had liberty to omit in the yard adioin- the request of her mother, who sau
',. Mg the state-room, under the cure of• the turnithy. Alice, in coromquelice of foray
lit the month of September. 1807, lie began to shrw the inad of August, 1404. this I
symptoms of insanity, and attempted to get WI, delivered of a 1ia5:...,61 chili.
ever the wall winch separates this yard from the ther's house, in the parish of Ken
female Knottier*, throwing his money, linen, clothe* no legal proeeeding appears to have
und provisious. over that wall. These symptoms until the month of May, lust*: when
increasing, Dr. 'Mauro wits Called in ; who ham% the examination of Mr. Robinson, tl
some doubt whether De 13Int was insane, or cows- Overseers of Kensington, that she, I
terfeited insanity, recommended that some person to the parish for relief, ass taken h
should be constantly with him. to watch him. in trate, to be examined; and in hero
comer:psi:me of this recommendation, and of the swore that Thomas Aria, the ruing
teliitviury hi liaviitur of De L'Aiii, he cuss, U./WWII* thee of 'the child. A warlmit
the cad ~1 lies:ember, 1307, removed from the sued against hist ; and he, wi
..tatu-rnous to the nairitear), (which is it large sit,' unoilier person, gave security
boarded room, wilt glazed windows, moil wherein The residence of Elizabeth Kew witl
there was no patient at that tune,) und placed utoler Goverour, gave his mu Thoinite, wt
'the care of anerson who had bean accustomed to him, an opportunity of becoming al
tattled on tomes parsons, nod afterwards under that her ; but it does not appear that the
of one of the turnkeys. At the time Mr. Stephens. had proceeded to criminauty lac fo6
and others of the grand jury, surveyed the "wham service of Mr. Aris, the father, wh
De Bliss was in the satire state-room in which he month of August or September,
had constantly been, from the time of his commit- Mr. Avis ever knew his son had 1
merit ;it is, therefore, not true that he wastonfined with her until the warrant issued a
in one of th,•st lonely cells, described in the fourth as the putative father of the child,
sectimi of 'Mr. Stepheits's petition, and to which born tight It months at least after.
the filth section refers ; and it is not trite that lie the service,and eighteen mouthsafte
was !estitute of fire, or exposed to a continual cur- to be a prisoner. We are of opinion
tent of external air, It appears that during tau ofthe charge in this section is uofott
contioemeat he was deprived of his reason ; but we it imputes misconduct to Mr. Aria
do not see any ground for supposing that his in- Mr- Stephens oaeotions in his own'
sanity arum" from any trestmatt which he expe- thought the itsformation he had ob
riented in this prison. It may have been occasion- hearsay only, was a autficient it
ed by confinement, he being a mail of legit spirit ; ing it in his petition;. but we are 6
but .d• it had, the same effect would hare followed he ought to have obtained bent
from his briug kept in custody in any otter prison. which he might have had frog
'Flit. statement iu this section, that Mr. Stephens son ; sod that merit did a
communicated with De BIM in the French lan- in tanking that a subl;:i7pnblic
guage for some time through the key-hole, and aceasatimi against Mr. Arils wb
demanded entrance; if it means to insieuate inquiry, he might bum known to he
that eatrauce was denied or delayed, is not correct. ly misfortune.
The facts appear to be, the', ill the absence of t.iv This report, whicheccupirs tg foil
Governor,ThornasAmos,th • store-keeper rod isisit• ed hy the Members of the Callan
master, with the turnkey, attended 31e. Stephens. M. Pitt, Charles Shaw Lefetreire is,
and six or seven other Grand Juiryincii, in their Ellison, T. S. Gooch, and J. *On
survey or the prison, on the 3d of November, IWO ; Annexed to the report is an arirsie
and when they were in the yard adjoining the itate- elms printed, coniaining th 1014
room, m which De BIM was confiued, the turnkey pesetas examined beton' the Commii
asked Amos, whether he was to open the French- Amu, TIMM. .. etemetemer
man's door? arid that Amos told hint to do so ; Axis, Timms Gerweer.
considering the number of persons who were omit- Al* gum' . .Clerk aad I
. -ook
ing the survey. and Mr. Stephens's apparent Godley siiiillimmVf ailua !
.. .. Tbm
to discover any thing that was wrote* is the pessaw, Cialwessmsll, ••• :: ... —Greed luny
'ambulate that he went forward before the cos; A _ Airs• Clary
. . .

lorel e114,11114;;Ne Pmeda
Dritosaria, Ihumeis Graod Jury
Sas, Willis.. Greed is
Zotwietle, Thomas Primmer Is
His Petitim
Fortes's., Robert Baker.
Greet, Robert.. GOON' Jury
Hiatt, Benjatnie ...
Heiman, Thomas Grand Joey
Johnston, hoes
Dumb, JOlllll Raker to th
Memo, Theses . M.D.
Phillips, Sir Richard Sherif.
Prescott, Robert.... ...... Gook.
Russell, Aden-id Gattkeeper
Read, James
Rubles's, Aisoomier Rasisny..Ovenser el
Stephiess, Alexeeder Grand Jury
Vae ghee, Thomas Ainslie Turnkey.
Webb, Thomas..... Sorgeon.
Of these we lane selected the evidence
Chevalier De Dia. It is es Mimeo
Theme Frames Ds Silo, wife of the
De Rh., Miesarner and examiased on tk
loos, depssMk nsfsliners :—I have two el
vallse De 111116.11116 girls met of them
A•gus4, sae 1141.0160 is shiest siateeo eat
taken up Its idw silt of May, 15447, as
hoesses eery musk dll d. I applies
ben's dies Do .dhsf l and boon some tie
My me?, to ibs preen% tiara, I have rec
Is. GONWllseemes, of s guises a wee.k, t
tiny chiles. ; which ham been paid me
tosigistram, to die mill last. I receive tl
ever I apply fur at, which is geserally osi
tires weeks Mr. Read ekes gives me ai
sire it, to ore my lieelmod is the prison.
or four months alter hie conimitnieut,hef
to see him. sod I thee saw him thn
• (insight onseatli ether. The first Ai
hie emassitineet, he talked M a imam,
hkaidtre, -that I sod the chid
Frio*, is

-e, saltuf
iik.sesers shot yard, and Oast I
child cry sight sod day. I knew this eye
tease the child wee always with i.e. Ith
•Neeted, sod I imeatiessal it te Aria, tkt
time of the times, I wishhil to satisfy my
to the child, sad therefore desired his to
and the child said, " No. to,
es*" that's • lie, ds mout teeth her to to
worth yard, and massing, sod cries the
.et know al Mint room he was cookout
Ken him in the dice. When I saw Ina
ago, he talked more DO-JerUnt then bell
hi. talk no say other white than hi
hems optemeiemelly ill ter &hoot two years
malted I. this prienii, sad he. been alti
side, sad Pepe who heal is Old
kisses Satisetisy the agile implant, and
ever. lifoeSsibitod coos o'er to. rngla
sunnier shoat Gee yews to whim
aid secretory. I think loy busload is of
I sever observed any inssaity ia kis coal
hod bass eassinitsolitlf
T F_RANI
FOREIGN INTELLIG
COTI'EN BURGH MA
' ITOCCM
The following is the act of a
late King Gubtsvus Adolphus IV.
in the sittin% of the Diet of the 10
.1 Is the Neisse of God—We, Genf
the grace of God, [nit et Swede*,
Duke of Seism Hobtele, Le. smoke k
hems prorisumed Meg the dey saves year
with a Megan heed. • throne=
helieltilvad veered thtker, we
• the tree welfare and beanie of
teem the happowess of • Ike
rep*. Now. abere sit arc apanac4

•
it in again the next stssirdi of
wlihn Gentlemen might hos* is tictier Opplies
of considering what was proper. tie walks'
-r!iinte, an advocate for having the inalliessew
perty fairly and truly appreciated, whaeireeT
ictices might be which this Bill professed to
• •
DAviss GIDDY said♦ he should not retract
the opinions lie had stated to the House
his subject. fie still thought, that, so far as
ice should exist, it should attach to propert);
ecuniary mud landed, as he considered them
rient to each other. Both wereassititled Nag.
share in the representation; neither did he
see gentlemen of the army and navy excluded
ie House. The Crown should exercise a coni
Ile degree of influence over the House of
ion.. Die mere feeling of patriotism was
fficient to correct errors in judgment. We
ready seen instances of the effects of this pa.:
n, in inflaming the public passions. as inthe
F the Duke of York, and by iiitiinating to
blic that millions a year iniglit he saved to the •
by doing army the Property Tax, in copra;
e of Perliainentary Reform. He should cots:
tout a person holding forth such ventimewei
public, would be apt to throw the courttrlP
utfiision, and do ten times more mischief id 41

Genthiseit 431 sniped to itnagiae they
were...G.4le vbsott suck notions expre,,ed of
the anasoitidion., *4 really it was difficalt to
knomaiaidit, talsat..the miaditution we.. What
be paaWed to b the Constitution was the law
of ilad,slaad slow. •04 he wished there should
be a pled_ ge gives to the country upon tins
subjacp...hefore they netted for this present session ;
cadtatbo nodal 'tad tranquillise the public mind.
lie gisatad think. that such a mode of proceeding
would prevent all those insinuations of demo-
gogstiag, that bad been thrown out against him ;
andAat the same time, give strength and health to
the Government, between this and next session,
—He should, therefore, give notice, that he would,
to-iporow, move a Resolution, stating his opinions,
and the necessity of taking this matter into consi-
derotion next Session of Parliataeat. By tiny the
people would know how far he was disposed to go,
and how far he would not go, after haviug maturely
weighed the matter in his own mind, in so far as
relented to the grievances of the state, and the re-
iareweatation of the Nation.
Mt. Davies GIDDY spoke in explanation.
Mr. CIIIIVIEN rose, and said, that the bill was so
,altered final its original tenor, that lie could only