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HOUSE OF CONIMUNS.

At one o'clock precisely, t' le Speaker came down
to the House, and immediately .*her took the Chair.
when upwards of 60 Members took the (Loh' and
their *Las. Among whom were

Lord William Ruseen, Lord Charles Spencer; S.r Jacob
&Way, Sir M. boinerti.le ; General Needham ; Mean. Hint
Brmice Bathurst. Hussey, Lockhart. Vanainarh
tidal Addgnonii, rsylor, Trasaisnion, Mae Dona'rl, J.ibra
LIMUCIIe, R. M. Philip, W. Keene, J. C. Reredurd, Wea-
n, n, &a. &c.

—At—th.ree o'clock, Mr. Querns,. the Deputy Usher
of the Black Rod. summoned the House to attend
immediately in the House of Peers, to hear the
Royal Commission read.
Oo the return of the Speaker. the several stand-
ing orders of the House. respelling clandestine
Outlawries. Grand Committee for Religion, Courts
of Justice, tee. &C. were voted according to usual
custom, on thJ opening of every new Parliament.
The SPEAKER then informed the House, that
that House had been in the House of Peers to hear
the Royal Commission read, end also His Majesty's
Speech, of which, to prevent mistakes. he had
procured a copy. He then read His Majesty's
Speech, for which we refer to the proceediuigs in
the House of Lords.

Viscount NEWARK then rose, and expressed
the difficulty be felt in the arduous task he had un-
dertaken, in addressing the House upon this most
important subjea. and had he not been encouraged
by the indulgence uniformly shewn to every Gen-.
Ileum in his situation, be should have felt um dlf-
ficalty antes more. It became his duty to call the
attention of the House to the lesding points of His
Majesty's Speech. It was uanrcr•aary for him to
go at an) lengt:i into the circunwances which led•

to the late d:ssolntinn Of Parliament, and it must
:rivolve a point nit wi..ch he was very unwilling
-stet into any discussion, but they were Stith as
indoced His Majesty to avail himself of that rtert
consritnti ,nal part of his prerogat.ve, that of d.ss
solving the late Parliament, and calling anotit.r.
Th:s House *as considered the organ of p.t..1,c
optritr,, lnd in ord.!' to spew this, it was only n.:
cessalv wart to the loyal and dutiful addrusses,
espre.sive of the WA. mest assurances of the attach-
Goverr.ment, flswed in from all parts of the
attach-
ment .1 lila people to Ili. Majesty's pt.- .rson and
con-tt,y, anJ we•? laid at the foot of tine I.l.retie,
exp-essive of their determination to suppott His
AI sty's person aod Government from every cans
co:suits:trona' innorati..ts upon his just rights dr4
toprogl!iVeS, W:li:11 were the best security for the
interests of his Pro•r.starit tubj-Qs. During his long
and prosperous reign, he had been the watchful
goarz...ran over the wtct.'est:,, of his subjees, and tfe!,
aff•.ftionate and t.lithfill tiovereigu of A it L'..y 1•:v,,
auihning pc,pl( . He next adverted to the soh,
cud.: Siis Nlaj:sty had shown to draw chaser
with the Contioen,al powers, a:id r.
ansiour e. deivatirs to assist Ility•se ..tower•
the unbounded amlsiti as and opp.essi..ll ..1
GoverionL-o L.l Fra.:ce i 1 t,•:;,,,t•,•,t .1-
ceetlinly the lai.oire 14 toe mediatt •:1 hr !ios•ir
preset se peace het.reen this c Attu, y and
limo Porte, a'd the att-nd.t:it c:tcd:r. rar.cci er
failure of our squadron off \tarmoras kle exureirli
the -steepest slrr ow at the losses oy o
Lot ant tiers in Egypt, and the m iay b,ave t iLtai
who fell upon Ciat ; ..,:•i i :•t:c,. a ~-Ecest u
we were at pies-nt voga::,e i, wt.en nor t•t;,ea,tio,‘
were cart ied to every qrtarfer of the gh.be, we ...11(..u1u
not, he saii, rrptft au ontr,t'trop,,:d I.4rlcs Stl4.
Ct.;..VS. The ex,s. ee,i ins of I LC Nl.j-St!. I ..yeEiii)g an
economical and emeriti Adn.ll.istinti n the Wails
fund., called for .heir pa,•ictilt: art • ..: Zs
conri•!-nce in the exer,ions of his pr, :0 -
Lisa Ministers, in following up the s V.:l*
conneeel wish pir',ite. eLo..onty, he ..1*
bAtl,fiei ..vas 7•Til placed. Bat he p.trticnl o!t e„ttlet
to the notice ~t ll,e i 'owe, it I t s .!
t:•conifr:.....:&.! t
a spit it of h among p
In the aran• tt. contest w!,:c:i we La,: to stit.u,
• a craoy, a!' i nut, won. I,e, it
goo.- .11 ..or e:.ergi,:s, to g;vc v:„.
.•- to out o:oin-
t.sgsnlos a: Li rt,.eatng crnt!..l tr. '! 1.. !.
.cmplettqn of this ;,. , . .
anJ harmony among all ci 11,.
sqlisCsr. finatiy coi,Jurt us to an •
• ,r.e.o. Ile c. by
• „: ,“ i l.a M.l;esly ; w:.ich, as usit.,!,

tnerel: rep(' 0. .e h.
Mr. 1f 111. to second the Address, ht..
i s Liw cf i; see war notable tt.
cuilea the eater p.iit of it. I .64:
this .:, the-•con y 10-ked with the
greatest 4:lz:ctr to te,.ift of their delib::retyins I:
b the ttie dui (3! tna:,%-use their sent •
at r.a tyon the a..l;;:e -ii to iiis Aijesty for di-
di...notion of earii tint nt, And to declare their .q
prilhttion of t4s,it firrnn .ss add dignity with whiiith
peculi.ir circumstanccs, Ihs M iiesty bat as-
sc. t d tas jut preroga:ivii, 411.1 the add int-
•ilei;es of Li, Cs tiwo, for rreserv.oion of the li-
b •rt,••• .11,1 ha rpires ot his sulijeti It WAS a righa
vested in the Crown for the filo..t asltitaty purpose,
exercke o. will, h. in the hoe instance, was a
wise, CX pc and necessary tuessitre, sad brought
forth th• uni•ed voice of the p-.spte is support of the
hrivittr, and prer,,g ewe of the Cr..we
!Ls 11oi,s1 found that Lis pulrtiz..l, as well re-
ligions iklifiationi, called upon him t resi-t a
met uie which his thee Mit uteri held out to t!ie
woad to be a niea,isie f. r the happiness et to•
poop e, And such as the situation of the cow try in
quirt ; but this was fours Whaii I mad, qua:e, and
the iyij r.t evi.ierbtly was not to quiet the cla,m, of
Rout in C5t..“:,.:2, but by grsdu d st ps to over-
, Otto:: ant sourer Ii WAS
not is th-: of this ireling that the late
IMinigers commit sd thens.elves —they went further
—they endeavoured to 'twee his Assent to a mea-
sure repugnant to his cons icotious scruples, and
incompstiblo with his Cars...stt in Oath ; tinder
these el: cumstances they 1 sst th.• eontiJuree of the
people, and forfeited the ittpro'ra•ion of their So-
vereign As was no: steal, H s lielejesty had recourse
to tile real and atotity of his plexte Ministers ;
men. wh9se former conJaCt had the most
favourable eXptet Itlolo ; whose public charaacs
could be hest estimated by tollowin;; that great
m in, who. if Providence had spared in those
times of diflicul.y and danger, was the best hope of
the country, and the only pilot who could weather
the storm. The cause woich influenced His Ma-
jesty's Cameramen( to advise an appeal to the sent
of his peslple, had been Attributed to motives which
no man in his senses cot.'-: believe, it had been said
it was to srnott.e: the inquiries of the. Committee r,f
Pins' ee it appeared to him that His Majestj's pe-
seta Ministers wee as deeply interested us that is-
veitigati n, as their predecessors possibly could be;
nor could there be a stren4er proof of their vat
sentiments, than the rcconsmendatim of His Ma-
jesty, in the cencluding parr it his Speech, to purgte
these infinities. lie cencluded by declarie; his
warm su;sport t, the Address.
The Address was then re.td from the Chair ; Aft •
which
Viscount HOWICK rose, and addressed t''
Speaker, and the House as folio a it—. Sir, I shee'•o
naturally have eipeCted from those who now cis;'
His Majesty's confidence, seme Axpnsition of 11e...-
opinions as to the present situation of public affaira,
and something by way of comment and proof as to
those cliarzes and insinuations which seem to b.:
conveyed in His Maj sty's Speech agtinst those who
were lately in-his Counc:ls, but no such eiplanation
has been given. There area that Speech, Ivies.
ever, and in those of the Mover and Seconder (and
particularly that of the latter). some passages of so
extraordinary a nature, as to make it impossible
for me at this moment to deter to another occasion
calling the atseption of the House to those passers,
and demandittg of the present Ministers what Ills
Majesty's late Administration have a right In
that if they be charged with any kind of MiscenJoa.
it should be brought forward ; insinuations, if pro.
scummed, shall be captained and made clear. Ts
we have, in justice and equity, a right to defused,
sad it is that appeal and that claim which I moo.
refrain from making. The Noble Lord and his

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Secander have both concluded their speeches (es
flis Majesty's Speech has concluded) in a manner
Ilea forces me, once for all, to free us from such im-
patations, to consider it as the speech of his Minis-
ters and nisi-ere and not flowing from His MA-
j,•cty, but contrary to that d'Alene which they have
always held out, who are alone responsible. Hew-
teer severe, therefore, may be the expresenns I may
nee, I have only to beg that they may not be con-
veered as derogating in any degree from that re-
;crew and respea, which, as a faithful end loyal
s,theee. i owe to the King, and which, convinced as
I am of his numerous virtues, I am bound to pay.
1 say. that as edering this Speech as the Speech
not of His Majesty alone, but of his Ministfee.
hepc I shell be allowed a tree comment upon a
The Mover and Secneder of this motion for an Ad-
dress have both ended their speeches by making a
call for unenimity, as the Speech itself has done;
,e‘,l I am happy to suite to you. that I most car-
,.,1;,• agree with them, that there never was A
es. more aveul than the present, or one wherein
• ereater -e threatened the country. and more
,perioutly called upon us for unanimity and co-
:ration. At the very moment, however, when
.L.:v are following the example of this Speech, they,
welt the word unanimiry upon their lips, do intrc-
duce topics which must necessarily lead to divisions
and animosities. They have both begun, as might
naturally ire ripefeed, by calling the attention of
_the 11-'use to the circumstances which led to the
late disselueen ot Parliament ; they have bath cen-
ts:mecca, that to sessolve the Parliament is the hide.
pue6e prerogative of the Crown; but I think
Tiede.' of them have gone the length of stating,
that the prerogative, undisputed as it is, is not like
otner erreogreves, to be considered in re'erence to
the utility of its application, by an independent
House of Commons. The Noble Lord said, he
would net advert to the ssibjeas of difference which
existed preri ,odr to the adopting hen measure ;
lett he, forgerine himself, did introduce those very
measure; which created those differences he wished
to arcid. He has told you, that those measures
which me lereMinisiry introduee•l here, calkd upon
M ;yew), to riet m d- fence of tee Pr event
Establishment. as having been introduced for a very
different purpose Sir, I will not now go agliti
irto all the circumstance+ and argememts connected
with that question, and indeed I do not think it
necessary upon the present nccesinn ; it is not
enough for them to stare, that a meastire h is been
proposed, which, in their opinion, was liable to such
.and such consequences; it was their duty to show,
that the state of things called for the adoption of
tech a step. I think it will require something more
ti he stated by them, to satisfy the Home and toe
century, that that exercise of the prerogative' was
wise a..d just. I confess, thet even now I termer[
recover from the astonishment which that measure
ince +stoned. Had it been adopted even by persons
other than those now in the Government, it could
cot have been accounted for, consistent with prin-
ciples of common mese, or regard to the security of
the country ; bus coming as it dries from the Right
Hcnoteable. Gcrekman opposite to me, it excites a
tenfied degree of astonishment. It was not long
belore that time, that Parliament was dissolved, arid
then heard a great deal of ohjeCtions seated by
those very Gertleman on the other side. who now
erapport the principle. I do think, that if the I-1u1u...1t
u...It imaginevon been tortured to suggest 05-
i.ninns to the exercee of that prerogative, there
conld be none fount more strange and extrein di-
nary, than those which they formerly urged against
giving advice to the Crown to dissolve :he Parlia-
ment. They (Milled to the di solution of a Par-
hement of four years duration, hut do not rite .•et
to dissolving a Parliament which has only con-
thmed its sitttings tour months. They found
great fault to the dissolution of P element at
a time of the year when no interruptiou was oc-
casioned to the public bueness, while they them-
selves dissolve it in the meddle of the session. Whey
complained cf the influence that had been used in
assembling the former Parliament, while they them-
selves have used it.fluence as it were by wholesele,
and in such an unexampled manner that they must
be ashamed of it when it comes to be canvassed in
the House. At the time when the Late Pasha-
neat was dissolved, I believe there existed as
little real ohjeaion to the adoption of that mea-
sure. as eye!' did or could possibly occur upon
any occasion, unless they mean to say that the
Kir:g must be restrained in his prerogative, or thet
Parliament must nee. warily exist for seven years.
The former dissolution, it must be reculleacd, took
place at the end of a negoeeitice, in com,equence of
which a new period of the war was opened, which
led us to form bet faint hopes of the restoration of
peace, during a considerable space of time. It was
at a period when we had to look to a vigorous pro-
secution of war, in order to avert that destruaion
which threatened the remaining liberties of Europe.
Under such circumstances it was at that time thought
advisable to shew both to our enemy and our al-
lies upon the Continent, that by the Maitre of that
negotiation, the Kieg, his Parliament, and the pec-
plh, were all firmly united in sentiment, and deter.
mined to uphold the dignity and power of Great
hi i• din, against the threats and power of an unre-
t rag and implacable enemy. Such was the cause
dissoituion, when the greatest unanimity
• use throughout the country. That dissolution
produced, differences arising from local stir-
. is maces, and such as every general Eleetion
• id produce. It was then thought expedient that
ieiment should be rendered more durable, so as
to remove to a due distance the possibility of its
breaking up at a time when some great public mee-
sore, either connected with war or peace, might be
deemed advisable But what have the present &liaise
tees new done t They have net scrupled to interrupt
the business of the nation. In the middle of a ses-
sion, shall I say ? Nay, even exately at that period
when they could rant
.have produces! more public
and private inconveniences, or created more division
of sentiment and animosities in the most inflamed de.
glee, they have, by their ill-judged and ill-timed
measures, exhibited us, both to our allies and to
our enemies, as a pzist
osi divided in religious ani-
mosities. I hey have vowed to set man against
man, and brother against brother to separate the
two Kingdoms, which it was our wish to see in-
separably united by the closest of unions, and to
teach the people of Ireland that the people of log-
hod are tiefavourabM to then happiness and their

Interests. To inflame s eluniery threatened with
external dangers from its enemie,, would have been
at any time bed enough, but it was still worse, when
we consider the effect such a procedure was likely
to produce amongst our allies, when our interest
consisted in keeping them firm and amicable to.:
wards us, and in eecnuraeing them to unite with
us in our exertions to prosecute the war with vigour
and energy against our common enemy. Such,
however, has been their conduet. Is it denied ? Let
any Gentleman look at the business, which W/4. ac-
tuelly depending at the time, when leeeiament was
&sleeved. In the first place, there was a greater
Lumber of private Bills, relating to the Agriculture,
inanufeetures, and commerce of the to must, dte
pending. than ever did deoend, durine any former
Session of Pareernent. Those Bills, by a IreittllAtMn
which I propose I, us ler an ailsece and suggestion
proceding.from the highest authority, the success and
colivenietice of which have been universally acknew-
ledged, were all brought with more than usual ex.
pedition to their last stages. Parliament wasdisselved
upon the 27th of April; while. upon the Ist of MA y,
the reports of those Bills were to have been made
consequently the whole, or the greater part of the
expenses, had been already incurred. A greater in-
convenience than this could not well lave arisen
during any period of a Session. I, certainly, for one,
shail be Anxious to relieve the in tividuals concerned
in these Bills, from the great inconvenience which
they have suffered ; but, Sir, we must be cateful at
the time of remedying private incni veniences, that
we do not open a doer against the interests of the
country, by ieterrupting the punlie business of the
House, or leaving it to an unseasonable time to he
managed by other Ministers, not so regardless of the
general adveritage, and prospetity of the nation.
But oveileeking the justice that is due to private in-
divetuals, we rind, upon viewing the public (nee-
sures, then in dependence, a much stronger
necessity to condemn this rash step it Ml-
nirers as a most nnnei eesery exercise of the
prerng What was the state of the public hu-
sines% ? elany useful reeesures ware depending,
some of svhich nets or resumed, and some may be
hrough: to a ter itheation but I am afraid the gt eater
pot ma cell, it he I,..VlTru•'during this Sessicoo. The
Reversion Bill will, I hope, he brought in to adieu:-
cage, as also a Noble Friend's plan of keeping good
faith with the pnbiic editnr. The Finance Bill
has bet n she Jed to by the beagle Mover, anal he
seemed mice esethished than any insinuation
served have been terawn out, that Pathan:lent was
dissolved In the purpose of pirting an end to the
then existing Committees of Inquiry. This point
shall not now attempt to determine ; but of thie
am sure, that the dissolution of Parliament had the
erre& of interrupting Close inquiries which had been
so diligetaly prorecuted, and which, I am afraid,
cannot he brought to any satisfaftnry conclusion
derMe this present Session. It is impossible that
new Members can undertake this, the ho :nes' of the
Cummittee ot Inquiry, without entering into a new
examinetion. 1 his I hope will, as far as posit:le,
reinedied by our making that Cernmittee to con-
' cat as nearly as possible, 'of the farther Members, of
whom it was compased, that their mimes wee be
openly announced, so that if they consist generally e.
the same in iivi Juals, that they may be able to pro-
secute some o: the most important points.. At all
events, i: is impossible they can make the same
1 erngress they would have done, had these not
been this interruption. Fs is have lately come out,
in conseque;ce of the Military Inquily, which
are ct tee utmost consequence ; and I nue,
that amosigst other sulsjoits, the cnntras.9 enter-
ed into by Government with Sir Fleury Mild-
, may, will seen be further investigeted. (Hear !
4eur !) On the 2401 of April, an account was laid
upon the T tele, riving a mete melancholy and
alarming pietere indeed, of tee state of the !tidier)
finances and c. edit of this country. What measures
Minister. are shout to propose upon this head I do
not kitow, but I AM ready to admit, that it was in
our conrempteron to suggest some expedient with-
out suejeeting, the public to any new arrange.
meat. phis was only postponed till an ample
opportunity shoule occur of discuss ng it ; but it
is bore:slab. net to sly, that great detriment
has otiginetrd from the delay, and the change
that he, taken place. If, previous to the 27th of
April, any measure could have been proposed as
to the East Initie Company, there was surely then
more time to have gone into such inquiry and ex-
amination. than now, when we are reduced to that
situation, either to adopt whatever measure may
be proposed, or to pestpnne it altngether, on account
of this being time of year, when it is hardly
possible that Members can attend, from their other
avocations in the country. But this is not all: the
state of the supplies of the year, as far as it relates
to the military service, which my Noble Friend had
proposed. were, in a great degree. complete ; but
teere remained a branch. belonging to the Sister
Kings] an. which was not accomplished. The Irish
Customs' Bill. and certain annual bills, relative to
that part of the United Kingdom, are in such
a state, that there is not time to pass theta
within the necessary period. consistent with
those forms which the Legislature has provided
for the good of the country ; forms and usages
which have uever yet been depleted from. The con-
sequence is, that either the colle&ion of certain
duties, composing a part of the revenue, must for a
time be suspended, or we must sacrifice those forms
which have been always regarded as necessary, or
Government must come to the daring alternative of
eollefling duties lam the subjects of Zeeland, with.
out an existing law. Neither do I know what they
are intending to propose upon this head; but were I
allowed to hazard an opinion. I should rather ad-
vise as adherence to general principles, thatia mere
temporary convenience. Another circumstance, not
to be overlooked. is this, that none of the sums voted
far the service bad been regularly appropriated, or
devoted to those particular services. for which they
were intended. a solemn resolution of this House be-
ing yet necessary to make the application of those
sums eel faly constitutional and legal. While I
say this. I am aware that there are situations in
which Ministers may be placed, where they should
not suffer the efforts of the country to be impeded,
ur its operations to be thrown into confusion, but
take upon themselves to apply the money voted by
Parliament to particular services, that could net,
without danger, be suspended, till ti further
application to Parliament could be erne:led ;

but then there arises a question, wriat'll dose
situations be unforeseen or inevitable, t;r pro-
duced by their own negligence? if they have
placed the country in such a situation that ee are
endangered, or that the law mast be broken, end
the safety, of the p-ople exposed? Su!') an exercise
of their pre,ogetive is one :nit! calls for the m-.st
stria consideration of Parliament, s.nd it %sill he
most painful to find that those Ministers have dated
to trifle with their duty, so as t,) enda:iver the inte-
rest and welfare of the r country. Ail this has
been done ; and here I must again allede to the
speeches that have hten made this day. Tne Se-
conder if this Address hay state l that an att-tr.pt
had heetr for:e the conscience n: • h.- Ki ig ;

an atlrrtion as unfoui e.-d, in 140, as it is in i boas
lion. ( War! heer! hear!) H., again recur, t,, that
dangerous d .!,rive, that tnere are aces of Oir
for which His Majesty alone must be responeek,
in that he has brought the Rine before the H .use..osce
the public, and is suiting that we have arraigned his
conduit. As lone as I can protest against a doc-
trine so big with ;eeceirei, and so destructive of the
liberties of the eeeele, I will raise try voice swatter it
in Parliemeer. If, when anyat" is adapted byGovern-
ment affeeli .g life interests ot the peeele, eve are to
he stopeed by being teld that that is an an ea. which
as Mireerrs are respoesible, but that it is said to
be the King alone, there is an end to the Parlia-
ment, and the rree.loin of debate in this H.iuse, and
even the pet-56nel security of the Kieg. This, it
must be evi.'ert, is a meet dangerous &eerie,
(11t.r ! Haar! Hear!) Sir, I therefore protesting
against such a doetrine, state, that na su .h case of
necessity eset. a. as the Hon. Gentleman ha, as-
stewed.
In UN, I God an (-pinion given by Lord
&Alters, stating that the Kng had not the prero-
gative of dissolving Parliament during the Session.
I tee great diffidence in dissenting firm that tee-
nien ; but, I ma say, that I maintain a diretily
contrary one, beCAU.e [lied cast rat reeePity, WI ith
is the Ernie:. st fur the bissoiution of Parla-
mem( suddenly, is such a on^ as can only arise du-
ring the Bes:inn of Parliament ; but tat opinion of
my Lord So tiers tortiees tae so far in regard to
what I war station, that it convinces me cf the ex-
treme inconvenience that may bt occasioned by siis-
solviag Parliament in the middle of a Session, with-
rut absolute necessity. Without pushing it the
length which than greet authority did, I think I may
fairly conclude, that it is a prerogative whit':, duting
the Session of Parliament, ought not to be exercised
without the greatest necessity.. • The Hon. Sccnndsr,
while he says that we urged a measure dangerous
to the Protestant Religion, appeals to the core
duet and sentiesents of the departed Mr. Pitt,
and then adds, that Ministers were very properly
lathed out. I admit, for the sake of necessity, that
the interruption of public Laziness orioinated from
necessity. What are we told now ? Why, thee we
aft called together for a msa;ih to wind sae site
bosiness, and b: sent hence again in the month of
July or August. If that be the Case, then, a month
mote w6&d have been stilficient to have accom-
plished the business during lest Parliament ; why
then did they do it ? They did it in order that the
appeal miget be made to the people, as stated in
the-King's Speech, while recent events re in
their treadle/lien, so as to influence the 1.1.-elione.
I defy any man to construe their motives oteerwise,
tris a i.e co . eda rs a,.
has eaten -i[ten and puelished in newsp were It
has 'seen c hid, that nor measure, as to the Ca: testier
te Ireland, was the beginning of aeysternatic attack
aeamst the PPliettallt Iteli;;u-n, and in the •Kie,%'s
Speech, we are call.: :i upon to support him and his
people in tee Protestant Religion, cotitermebly to
the sacred obligations under which the Preenga-
eves of the Crow are held. I say, that this pas-
sage in the King's Speece, as explained by the con-
duet of Ministers, and much more by their publicati-
ons, is calculated fur nes other purrs..., teen to issaarne
those Divisions, which we wish so much to avoid and
if their Melee has riot been already, tilt aed, it lias
not 'seen owing to their conduee but to the good sense
of the people. Is it not tot the propose of pen:wading
the people, that the late Ministers teem endeavour-
ing to make His Majesty violate the coronation oath?
I do not think it is necessary to impress this upon
Any man who has a mind above the sense of a chill.
Does the. Right Hon. Gentleman opposite (Mr. Per-
ceval) mean to sae. that :Ley nakessuie in favour of
the Roman Catholics is contrary to the Cc:trona:ion
Oath ?—( Hear ! hear ! hear!) Dees he mean to
say that the King. being sworn by that oath to
maintain the Protestant Religion, as by law esta-
blished, is excluded :tom the power of doing away
any disqualitying statutes existing as to Roman
Catholics and tuner dissenters, whenever these dis-
qualifications appear contrary to the interests of the
religion of the counts y ? Does he infer that it
would he contrary to his oath for His Majesty to re-
peal such statutes ? No man can in sound reason
mai:to:in such an abominable doctrine ; but if he do,
I must refer him to that string of concessions alluded
to in that same speech. What was the effect of the
repeal of all the Teat Laws in Ireland ? If they are
to renounce such an abominable doctrine as this,
why was that passage introduced into the King's
Speech ? It was far no other purpose than that of
making did people take alarm. and risking, fur per-
sonal interests, the safety of the country. But, even
supposing our measure to have had such a danger-
ous tendency, how can they justify the exercise of
the prerogative, at such a season. after the Bill
complained of was actually withdrawn ? Let
me put a ward or two further to the Honour-
able Secretaries of State, and auk them how that
measure could possibly give to the Roman Ca-
tholics the power of the sword ? Have the
Protestants the power of the sword 1 I thought
the King alone had that power. Tnen what saall
we say of men who use such phases, as to appre-
hensions of danger, which it is impossible to recon-
cile with common sense. Let use Auk my successor
in the Foreign Department, if that favour which
was intended to be conferred upon the Irish Roman
Catholics, was one which could possibly endanger
either the King or the Constitution? 1 wish the
Hon. Seconder had consulted a little the feelings of
those who sit under him. and Ahoy,• all the regard
they have an all occasions expressed for that person
to" whom he alluded (Mr. Pitt), and I wish I.e would
consider a little more the character of that great
Statesman, before he censures himos he has done by
saying that any person proposing indulgences to the
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this country. Tappeal to the mesioryof dsit Mustrious
This was one of &hi...points upon whiob hi
agreed with his illustriou. rival Mr. Fox and Mr.
Peirke, as great an assemblage of talent, political wis-
dom, experience, end knowledge of history', air ever
existed is C.is or any other country. Mr. Pitt pro-
posed that measure, and mush mine. Therefore,
to the living, as well as the dead, he has direffed
a severe censure. Is it passible that they have
abandoned their revered Szotetinan I If they have
not, then to join in such a measure, and to en.
coat ags and f.meet it cry of such a nature, makes
me ve.nder Coy can present themselves before us
•• cnuntenAnc,s so blanched." loarnot einem-
i:ft to His Vl.,jeiry's present Administrerion for their
sincerity as to the alarm they have spread. This
is tie zra in whoil we must come to plain dealing.
In 181;1 this defender of the C;,:o ( %Ir. Perceval)
never said one word upon, or stated one objeaien to
groeting concessions even to Foreign Catholics. If
,they were sn bound to him, by honour and by duty.
I shouisl have Els ught they could not have aced at
they have, nor ccuOl they have retained their situa-
tivas. I recoils ft of a Nebie Lind opposite (Lord
Castlereagh) making specific declarations, that he
could not ceinduct the affoits of Ireland. without
making some cos:cessions to the Roman Catholics,
and he had even received a valuable Consideration.
upon ca"YilO the woich he hal often said,
he could not hove carried without making such to o-
mises. Such men bringing About a .Uissolution of
Parliament, with-ut any necessity, show them.
selves to be moo u' principled. most undeserv-
ing of favour, and most wcrtby of censure."—
' Viscount Howick then alluded to the hand-hills
circulated at Northampton, stating that the people
were called upon, to decide between the King per-
senelly, and Ms late servants; this was 'Plating the
freedom r f elation, by using the King's name
for the most unconstitutional purposes. He was
sorry to see it stated in some of the newspaperko
as well as its their speeches, that whoever voted
upon this Address against the wash of Ministers,
voted against His Majesty. He objeded 'to such a
principle of diseltrion. as being dangeroes to the
King himself. foe indeence of Goverotneat bad
been exercised in a way. of which there was no ex-
ample in P.oliamentary history. He had beard of
many instances of it in this Kingdom, but those id
The Sioer Kingdom were the most barefaced and
unblnshine. He had heard, that at an Klee-
Lion in Ireland, the Crown Solicitor alloally
went to the County of Wexford, and bad
promised a re-assignment of the forfeited
Estate of Cornelius Grogan to his brother John
Grogan, p-ovided he would support the Minis.
serial Candidve. He sheuld vatic.; another (4-
v:instance.. which'edmisted 'of no doubt epos this
teed. InShe lefteiof Lord Hewkesbnry, of 25:1t
to the Lords Lieuterant of Counties. it-
spe..aino the. Wheteers, it seas stated, that it
was (he intension of His MajoitY's. Governs
m-nt'to propose to* Parliament an alteretion in
the system •alfopted by thislote Administretion,
by the restetation of pay to. those in the service
upon Jun; 11Ni. and :he appointment of Inspect..
log Field Officers. This wes only two days pre-
vious to the di.solOtinn of and dusio)fer'
chic purpose of creating blinisterial irfluence and
sintment was rneit ionteraptible,as
oe*lnsoeictine. Field Oilicers hsai ns power, aeitho-
eity, or controul over the Volunteers. They squid
not even force them out to an inspellion against their
inclination, and far less couli they do so, oho-4d aa
eiem'r Ford. This, arid other appointmehts, Were
evi lenge fur the purpose of creating great
.petrain.
age. and at a great expense tiothe county. witbput
aoy.utility. Yet such was but a small beginarg
Et om those who professed themselves enemies to the•
creation of patronage. feel,ng, therefore, that eare
late dissolatioe et Parlionscat could net be ja.tillid
or defended.upon any ground or principle whatever,
it was impossible fur him not to see a tuscessity To
pr pose an arnendm tat to the Address, expressive
of their disapprobation of such a measure, us der-
taken at such a time, and under such circumstaaces.
After making several other very appropriate obser-
vations upon the subsequent parts of His Mojesty's
Speech, as to our Continental alliances, the late
milks:to:les in Egypt, the present state of theVolon-
teer and the Recruiting Systems, the s:ate ofoleee
land, and some further aliusions to tip weakness
and the unjustifiable condaa of the present Ministry,
which, we regret, our limits will not admit our is •
sorting. Viscount Howick concluded with moving
an Amendment, similar to that moved in the House
of Lords.

I he CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER :
" I am happy, Sir. to bear, that whatever opposi-
tion the Noble Lcrd, who has just concluded, has
avowed his determination to make to the measures
of the present Administration, still he has declared
his purpose olLsupporung the Executive Govern.
meat in these measures which should appear u him
to be right. But notwithstanding this candid
avowal, I cannot at the same time avoid remarking,
from some intimations of the Noble Lord, both to
the opening of his speech att, d in the manner in
which he afterwards handied the debate. that let
the Speech read from the Chair have been what it
might, or let the seconding or moving of the
Address been what it might, nothing would have
qualified vie attack of the Nol,le Lord cn His Ma-
jesty's Governureot, but that they must at all events
have had the traisiortuqe of incurring the Noble
Lord's oppoilsion. The principal topic on which
the Noble .Lord had indulged his inveaives, was
that which regarded the dissolution of the late Par-
liament, at the sari* time that the Noble Lord
began his speeche scy denyirg that by any shim he
had said, be meatit to call in question His Majesty's
prerogative. The N.a.hle Lord had candidly ac•
knowledgcd, that then was no qnesti.n as to the
King's right, and thinhe legal exercise of his pie.
rogative, in dissolving %Parliament, was not to be
disputed I at the same tin* that he had referred to
Lord Somers's authority for a contrary cloarina ;
whilst he denied its legality, he bad attempted to
engraft open it some opiniortillat might bear in its
tendency upon the suhjei of the/preseht discus-•
Undoubtedly. Sir, upon the prikent, as Opel
other similar occasions, the propriety of set
measure must be judged of by circuoistancet
according to the occa,tan that gave rile ta the
sure. When the former Parliament therche the
was dissolved, the Noble Lord thought every
was right which was tbea dvae ; but on Use

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occasion. the Noble L'wd is pleased to reverse that
spies. and to pronounce an unqualified sentence
elf ropreba., 'a. I must be allowed. however.' Sir.
try express my opinion. that Ministers would have
hen justly charged with an abandonment of their
duty. if they had any longer deferred advising His
Majesty to this ineesnies and also that et was their
duty to advise His Mejesty in the adoption of this
measure, the very first opportunity that the public
business would allow et it. ( 4 tee ,f herr ! bei:r
Toe Noble Lord had thoug'it tit to enuroto oe seise
reasons agaiiist this measure. which, Sir, • n
pear in be some of vie veer mooing which toast. it
necessary. o.ie of the Noble Lord's ..11j eliens
against this measure cf dissolutien was, because (het
the late Parliament hid been but te.cently chosen
B it that to me. in conneeion . with other eircion-
stances. appears to he one juoifiable reason for do.
Selving ir. His loordship observed, that we were
then in seeh a stele, win at home end abroad, as
re meniteit that we were an united people, and
upon fiat penuil his Lordship and coa 'jetties had
advise! a dos-1,1.t0n pf the Parliement before the
List, and of a Yarliement too. which bad never, upon
any important Tuition, divided less than two to one
in favour co Ministers; n eseirhstanding this. they
bad found that the stirs of Europe was then such as
wade it necessary to :hew that the sentiments of
tee Ktng et:memo:Wed with that of his Parliament.
1 say then, Sir, that every reason which cool I
intuce a dissolution of the Parliament before the
last. infinitely strengthened the reasons which indu-
ced the resolution of railing a new Parliament A
temper and disposition had been manifested towards
the close of the last Parliament. which had been
seen. not without horror, and which rendered it
necessary to call upon the sense of the people as to
the events which had lately occurred. Other reasons
combined, which rendered it necessary to call upon
the people. and to give them an opportunity to ex-
press their sense of public affairs. and that they
might prove by their opinion. that it was not the
Ring, individually, who stood in the situe-
bon in which he was supposed to be the sole
obstacle in the way of greeting the indulgences
moved for, to a great proportion of His Ma•
jts y's sub)'ees. ar I that they 'night receive what
the late Administration had judged to be inch.-
reliably necessary for them, as well as for the
Interests of the public. Thus circum tenet '.
the Kint was supposed to steed as the sole ha
riff to what wit sooPosed to be advantageous t •
them ; nothing. t. erelore, was more IleteSS4,y•
than that it !mould be publicly koowti. th at toe
condo& of the late Adm.-.:.:ration was not only
ir opposition ta the sentiments of the Kirg.
but to the general sense of the people. At wise
ether time could the iientimenta of the penile
at large have been takes. so well, as when those
events were free, is the memories of the pee.
ple ; and esheil they would be most likely to prr.
Pounce their jedgment with the best tiled i On
this account. no unnecessary delay was to be adore.
ed. Ilse Noble Lord also Melees to the dissolution '1
of Parliament. at a time, which, according to him.
was so pregnant with inconvenience to the public
metier; but surely no such inconvenience could
be considered as commensurate. in its enlarged
Mese, with that which circumstances would have
ekused, by a continuar.ce of the late Parliament.
Undoubtedly. Sir. by the dissolution which has
recently taken place. some inconveniences have ac.
teally been incurred, but not any thing in extent
equal to that which the Noble Lnrd wishes to be
supposed. With respell to the expenses incurred
by this dissolution of Parliament is private Peti.
tionsm, I believe a method will be found to render
that inconvenience comparatively light, whilst every
indulgence will be granted with teepee to the fees
of olio. which, in this case, will be entirely doe*
away ; and with sego a to the delay and expenses
of witnesses. it will be almost entirely done away,
by a proposition, which, in a few days, I shall
have the honour to lay before the House
via. to refer the proceedings of former Committees
to the new Committees that may be appointed, in
which case no necessity will exist for the attendance
of witnesses. As to the inconvenience which pub.
he business is likely to sustain by the late dissolute
Son. the Noble Lord is completely mistaken in sat,.
retsing, that sirce the late disinlition. money has
isued fr'm the Exchequer for the accommo.
-*non of i diviinals, and that this money has been
uttered from the Exchester without any approbi.
tine. Our. Sir. no sucit thing has been dune; for
the riptineiwiexpoidi:lite, sines the dissolution °lobe
late Parliament, l.'s been issued out of monies ac.
tnally appropriated by Ales of the last Parliament.
The Nobte Lord, across the Table. says, that he
knows whit I 'tern, and he knows I am wrong ;
bin I know what I say, and 1 know that I am right.
( ) In the titre Aies referred to. Gov::
most have, in no instance, &pelted from the lam.
althitueh, under certain circumstances, there wool,'
be no illegality. even if money had been applied
without being previoady appropriated. as speedos
from what took place in the year 17)14. With regard
to the late 'Finance Committee. these was no doubt
hut that it world now be revived ; nor was there
sly thing it regular in a new committee taking
up the business where the former one left of.—
The Noble lewd proposes. that the old members
should. as for as possible, be rechosen. with the re-
markable exception of one or two gentlemen, who
may be considered as friends of the present Admi-
nistration. ( Hear eerie !) Bin the House catinot
forget the manner in which that Committee was &p-
-ointed, at the proposal of the Nob:* Lord. to the
emnunt of twenty-Poe. The Noble Lord then
found it extremely convenient to name three more.
and then this impartial Committee is to do full
justice to all Adramistratiimsl Sot the whole of the
business. in selefsing this Committee, would be a
sabjeft for future oiscussion, when one or two cir-
cumstances would be adverted tn. which would pro-
bably form the suejeft of future inquire. !she
'Noble Loot also oleo% to the late dissohina of
Parliament, as forming an obstacle to the consi-
deration of Fon !mho affairs; but I see no reason
why this subjed may not be taken up by the present
Parliament with as much efficacy as it wouli hive
• the Administration of the Noble Lord.
Ince. indeed. I shall feel it my duty to
best opportunity of laying before Par-
t-thing to call for an AR of Indemnify ;
trine/ice to the Aft fur continuing the
of the American Treaty, duties the iil2•

portant discussions still pending on that sublet+.
as it was judged necessary to cAntinue the ope-
rations of that treaty. till the Anal settlement
of the one now under disenssine. With rested to
the state of the Irish Finances, I elan inform
the Noble Lord, that, without the violation of
any establi.hed rule, this Bill. which will expire o
Sunday se'sniglit, would be revived on Tuesday
se'onight ; and the present Bills that are not expi--
ed, are proposed to be read at the conclusion of the
present Jerre. wise referred to a Committee of the
whole House. with a possibility of the Bili being
passed through ill i states on ruesday or Wed-
ne.day nest. fist Noble Lni,l next ale-rts to the
alarm of d Inger to the church, eecited by what he
calls a false cry ! n iy, a neatly cryr although it
is a cry selicli has reciundel from a great majori•T
of thus n stint. Bust bete lAm a‘ked. whether any
indulgence granted to the Catholics and Dis Any eis
would be a breach of ; lies Majesty's Coronation
Oath ? In the extensive sense in vrlcch the ques-
tion is put, I never thought it would; but Ain I
maintain. that any relaxation or abolition of the
existing Test Laws. which. in his conslience,
His Majesty mar cemider as dangerous to t e
Protestant establishin•nt. I maintain that it
would be a violation of his oath in concede. if
he conceived that it would have this tendency,
for this is a matter of personal ennicience, and
here His Majesty his nn conscience-keeper." \lr.
Perceval than Dried', adverted to the other topics,
iuuoduced by the Noble Lord. and concluded by
expressing his hope, that the House "Auld feel no
hesitation in rejeining the Amendment.
Mr. WI hildriAM observed. that there could be
no dispute about the bare qdestion of regal prero-
gative in the dissoliii7nn of Parliament ; but it was
a serious cultist nn with regard to the prudent and
di,cretinnary use of this power. In the present
case. he consideted that Has Majesty had acrd by
responsible advis rs. and that the exercise of this
right was very objectionable, as producing a great
inconvenience and delay in the badness of the
as giving a handle to Ministers to dissolve
Parliament steer Parliament, till they pi °cured one
obsensfoes to their measures. and as putting Mem-
bers to great inconvenience, risk, and expense. He
denied that the result of the late Eleffion. had ge-
oerally paved favourable to Ministers. In large
cities and counties they had been defeated, as in
IVsinninster. addles's, Bailordstire, Yorkshire,
Noel Ik. &c.

Sir H MILDMAY said, he was not in the
Witte when an attack list., he en m the upon him.
that 'voting, by a N4le Lord, rebvive to his being
on the Cornm'.nee of Finance. H .hould not now
cove on this inkje& as he propane/ to bring the
so' jell. in a specific form. before the Home. on
Monday neat, when he trusted 14 should mike it
appear, that lie was cruelly and falsely attacked
upon the subje.ft alluded to.
General CRAWFURD defended the condo& of
Ministers at considerable length, in advising the
dissointion of Parliament, and s.-targed the late
Ministry with an unprecedented attempt to invade
ire Royal Prerogative. when a prevalent coughing
prevented the li-ncourahle Gentleman from pro-
ceeding farther in his speech.
Mr. BROWN opposed the Amendment, and
argued in favour or the original Address.
Lord COCHRANF. said, he disapproved both of
the Address and the Amendment. lie did not we
how he could approve of the Address, because it
tended to prejudge a cue where no proof had been
brought forwards nor could he approve of the
Amendment. as it seemed to charge His Majesty
and his Miniuers with an unjustifiable exercise of
the tiedouhrrd Itoyal Prerogative.
Mr. (RATTAN ruse, aitti spoke to the fallowing effect :
8' I shall, :tilt. Speaker, consider the present question en two
points, both as it regents the Cathuhce of Ireland, and as it
elects His Minnie. late Ministers. In speaking of then eon.
duct, I (mono( soppiest the feelings I entertained for them
while in office; neither can I be ideate on the circumstance,
which led to. and attended their Amount& I approve of that
Ministry, because they preferred their principles to their
Pace,. I approve of them because they constitutionally re-
fined to be restricted by an unconstitutional pledge. I approve
et them becalm they were sincere in their wishes to create
n anneal stouigth by suitionai unanimity. I approve of them
because they endeavoured to muse the people. au 1 discilve a
patty; aril I men appellee ref them because they wisey cea,ed
to prosecute the Omitted claims of the Irish Catholics, when
they were convince/ the misectition w.,:s highly inexpedient
I v.y, His Majesty's late Ministers acted wisey is intnelocing
a measere, which, in its origin, appeared highly practicable,
and witbdraisi og it, when they were satisfied it was for the
tine impeactitable. Toey proposed it with a •iew re
conquer. and they airdatned from pniciphately pressing
It, whets they were unfortunately disappointed in that ex.
pie:tation. To this dilemma they were reduced. that U
hie Bill was expedient, why not introduce it! and being
expedient, why abandon it I fa laugh Inns the Ministerial
benches). The lion Gendesnen en the Opposite side might
laugh, beet I contend, this the true ItieW of legi.latirm rid po.
licy--• policy toe litiet itehtest, is not to push even a good
princti.le ton fir; when there is no eeepeirtunity of effecting
the object, and where the evils arising from the failure, must
maim .11y direct from the benign of even ultimate einem.
Nut whon I lay down that pusition, I feel it In/ runty Arm*.
• oppose that printiple,which, at a moment when we are
sursolin4o4 eii,mies, acid Mailed with dangers, ate Ile.
mein when our best and surest safeguard exists in the unani-
mity of the people, woold defeat the benefits of that unanimity
..-iseuW, at Inie same nil/tient that it divided the public feel.
log, and distracted the popish,r energy. hold out to the foe who
menaces es, the alarming and detestable, hope. that a greet
majority of those who were moo prominent in Nub, is tai
' lents, in property, hal cumin:at with a great proportion
of pan physical force, against the acknowledged ens.
Inisninent of Church and Flats. To ohnit such a posi-
tion, is to perpetuate an incnrable well. ft is to in-
fore into two slaves r 4 year fellow •ohjects, the prin.
rode, a es of an inextioeuishable hostility. To
support LIZ;tim
greet run.,,. should he 'dilated by the ad.
vocates of disunion ear at least better reasons than we have
either heard or toui:d in the speeches and production, of those
wits ham towed It their inteiest tee promote at. Feet, how.
ever you apply y..ur ingenuity, however anxiou. to realise
the emulate which Gentlemen have contrived to apprehend,
reddest it to plain sense, analyse whatever either of Mena
het, pee ;foetal, or learned, that ha, been advanced by your
acct.-ensues or your corionitrt tsons. whatever of wisdom or of
letwarele hat been to their *Nimes or their anntiounications, to
this plash conclisassAt must be reduceda-that in the Catholic
8.11 proposed by my Noble and Rt.. Ebro. Vinod ( Lind I lowick
there wee • danger lone admit:mg our Catholic fr:llow subjects
ante our armies, end into a participation of the loisiter, ref
our Commotion. What wee the fact The danger, either
way, has, anti does east. 'rise Catholics evostnute a gout
pinion cat your mitisry force. They cotietitote almost the
whine of the Irish Militia They Mar • vino., -fable peewee
toms to the estalehehigeett of the Irish Teonsesoy. They have
Wert admitted, by the Act of 1793, to • peewits/atom of lb.
curl Inman( the Cominemoon. Arid, therefore, If die dinette,
+ditch has brew raised, if the nitric which has bee. eliminated
uf the dome, analog from the Cobolic BO be in se. part, of
to ay cativo', jo.tibed, that hat been Sithstailleal &Ogre he
you, erahlidtment, tee reel army, he your nelignin, for the Wet
fountleo years. (Ilse. Mae.) Nay. yeereaustry heo, for yet

ported, hetet in a peat. degree defended by Ilion whom the
alleged sepproters of enrich and State have pre d to re.
as um, Ws mammies. It has been the r coons t
and once .sing cry, that ruin, inevitable ruin, would be the
eensequeur • of it:pealing the diequalifyi:se Statutes agoem the
Irish Cirbidics Let us examine the validity of this app.&.e,t.
sioriond aacarain the length in which d runs. Ilium be the
cousequence of Ca.holic indenture, then I answer, you most
retrace your step., you mu-t undo what the King and the Par
hutment nave steady enacted for Catholic litioiatiou. you
run ova,' nowt to sour li-iialcie., ant annul your rants
Fur by sock • 1.4,,rf01i11e, w tl.. efIeCIVWCII we meet
come, that it the I loarittrahle Geotlemeri, the friend. of
Ciii,ch and State, refs.. to rep-ii L..e grants, tiler intro
rye no their argunten., and n tines repeal the n. •hey toe..
shindon INeif 4,11 V. (14.14 •.! heir, Mee .) how.
vex it leer. ill interest ot those rites rte
avt .111....u.;e4 by run S .1...i.1 flu ^l', 4.
iriee,:ee,ent it, yet in .11-tr !ice • eel in •i•e 'a., of .Ilis
I l‘f•lt, that me nieloce Mir .laced hi the !set Pir
.1,4 not g. one aril, farther, either iii in prodstuna, tier n. ea •
tension, than the Irish Mill of 1799. The is ',taint,
this, 1114 in optenina the lair tell, ens admit .his atuince
principle, that disleyolty dws not ...iv amidst the I .war
claiess of iheCatNilio (holism.] •, but that 1 does person' the
higher and ##### respectable 14,i...win0 of this ochiussion
They are already tidoratel, it will be said ; Mee are Prritt.ti
ti eiij,.y the Vitt exy.ciee of their religious fee nags Too,
say, 1. nw siAesci•t, nor hot the isomer or es/lined visa "fetus
volt an Immo tacit subrail. The eathodica of Irrla, d aid tot-
aled ash eoituiro once of the entre... leer are oar
'moil., our bt.tlneu, fully entitled to ti, participation ..t
ci.il rights, end lite einoyment of criostouti mal hi. smog.
When, ttreef ire, we are t:.11, Ott they • x at by suf
we are eirieg ear to an opiiimit which ate". a fumfir-
mental to, orh of the State mod of the ntimoal securr
The tue.sore of the Deism between the tan coo. tries atoll
no dams. lietweeo the r.latire deltas h.. oeopie. It
made no altsear se I. our adt;?l,lcd f no iiiiimeeinent in the
smiting elates. ot tiro I Itch sahie•ts y 11.,.k the l,i.h ca.
neat.: wok his vv. acid an now tied nu pretest
fur destroying them. Th. dangers which have been alts.-
Muted iris nos sae .sure, are ciiim roll; if they wore real,
they g . to a• nosy the gust enormous° of your mili-
tary system. Indeed the argument is so false, that no
dunk-is boaster, of corroatiun orator, with at; their
prejorliCea or their positions, cook! seriously give utter-
er... to those Mt, which have been bmh ineetioned aiid
propagated by some apparently great polittiaits. For rev
sons, even they are inclined to admit that the Bill was in.
noxious, but that the Minister who nrepounded it was
dangerous. The Noble Lord fcatithereagh;and the bight Hon.
Secretary ( Canning)eoulduot eensistently with his termer
conduct and recorded *dies, war with the pr:riciplr' they
therefore hare domed their present hostility artist the M.
nister, who had the sincerity to act upon that pri .cipie Mole!
The Bight Hem..fientleman. the Cherwell., en,
cannot adopt Win principle of his erillcagoe., be
calorie it apptar. hig with d.soge,, and replete WI h ruin. I
condole with him for his fem., but can give no credit so the
validity or his indention. I cannot for • moment admit it.
raillita of a statement, the most brittle to the particular ha
tercitt of Irelaud, and the general sccstrity of the ,:more. I
cannot, I sae, as the frieod n. my owis country, as solicitous
fir in lame and foittyne, give credit to a proposition, moristrotis
in its emicephoo, and ilea eruct lye m its effect. Aria member of
Lump.. I protest :ninon this sinjust•fit.l, dangerous argument,
elsich leads unavo.Jaidy to deprive it of the means of rescue cad
recovery from the Cannon sod inipemiiiig calamities with which
it iy thiestened. I feel proud, that. wit.' all the temptation, with
all the endeavours which have been so unwisely and so im-
properly made, the expedient has not silly peered unsue-
cameral, but hopeiess. There is nut, I al any disposition
on the pail of tins country to quarrel with their Irish bietliren
on account of religion. The rood sense and liberalto of
the people have prevailed spins* the misapplied zeal of
the bigot, and the inutte•434 speculation of the misera•:.
politictae. It is the victory of the unofinterated ead
seine of the English people, seer relirmis disc., • and
unchristian rancour. All Church crow, have, in •• .y stage 01
society, been rnischierron; calamity has ens, o. adtlerogh the
object of their propagation was not act oinpl.shed Though
'atis the tell bully, they lift their head. and 1.e." yet the annals
of our history prove than they hose injured. In the reign of
Charles I. and II they created a party which overturned the
establishments of the Country, mid shed the best blood
..f it. rienple. In the reign of Queen Aims, they
paralysed the energies of the intim, sod rendenal unayail.
mg the great victoties of the Duke of Marlboroogh Tee
retie...on animosities of England aggraedised the power of
%rice, and led to that disposition of Europe, which new
alarm. us with Its tremendeue efforts. In 1750, the cry
Of " No Popery " was nearly suereasful, lei defending rhe
Church, by burning the gay. (head I 1.. r!). Religious
alarms are not the reins et great or cionprel.eortive .l,i
they originate in low malicious cunning, and overrate on igno
rant iontability. It ts not on reigion they are founded, be•
close they air generally the eit;iedints of the depraved.
They me hatched with the hope of delnenin, and are the
worst political vice. baptised. There it mottling profound,
itothieg wise, nothing dignified I s U. .ir influence; notoing
to excite public spirit, or to stimulaw to great exer-
tom. They call forth no proud or honourable energse-,
and hare nut embattled on their sine, even the manly
vices of the count,,. I rejoice to find that the people of this
Kingdom had nut fallen into the snare, which was laid with
so much sit sod duplicity to entrap mem. lii my country
the wicked attempt has not only fined, hut the opposite prin.
nide has triuillsphed. The people oit Ireland have not only
scouted theabominable ,e:l, but have avoided a polity which
might hare been dangerous to the general interest. They
have net answered folly by fiely ; when you wrote upon your
▪ "No Popery ;" they did net retort the cry of "No
England." They left an isle bugbear to perish by its own
imbecility; an unfounded calumny to be defeated by its
appropriate inereditaility. (Hear! hear') They disdained
to make • serious comment upon smileless earn.—t Hear!
hear !) Ido not preteod to say that theie were not some
amongst them who entertained strong fathom upon the re-
jection, or rather the withdrawing of the Catholic Bill, out I
cutitiont that the great body of the Irish people were in far
satisfied, as ant to be dimatisied, and that their coodect evinced
• great and striking tenacity of good order, and the love of na-
tional peace. The College of Dublin woeld not entrees the
Throne so the Ministerial Cheage which had taken islaceo.
the Seat of Lamont{ would not disgrace it-elf by lesiditi,t sup-
port to this venal, and abominable cry of Church in Donee.
They who were well acqsainted with the precepts and ',omens
eat-religion, knew best to deleted that religion Iv a religioin dig•
silty and a Christian moderation. They wisely separated an lila
violable reverence for then King from an attachment toe de.pi•
sable Court intrigee (Laid cries of Hear l tier I) The Cup of
Lloblin also disbelieved this Church alarm, and even the most
ilithotal. I myseit founo tree from the animosity of reltginus
madneea It was tree that thp Cremation voted a. Address to
the Throne; bet though bound to my country by the tit. of
honours conferred, and services performed, and though I can
lifer from any part of my Constituents, bat with ref-st, yet
I will boldly my, that my own opinions on this suS.
jet, ate the opinions of my country. I treat with respect
the feelings of there who direr from me. I condemn toe
principle, but Au not deprecate the authority. To the people
of England I say, that the Irish Catholic novo has entertained
the opinion that they were hostile to his einancisotion. Ha
could not suopose that though you first rensoved the Parlia-
ment under the pretext of releasing hoe horn teligsties dis-
qualifications, you afterwaids declaied m 4 only war again*
that religion, but hostility agaiito his coustatutiomil free-
dom. Beware of that hrotilite it would be lolly • divi-
sion of public interest. and • diminution eat natiucal strength.
Extend that feeling of sympathy which I mince to see se
strongly eariiipli6el amongst yinit people. By so dus:,
you golf C. 'AGMs fur the defeetien of ail ea, and the
failure of exiodifions; you will fortify that great western bar-
rier, which is best calculated to counterpoise the destreetion of
the balance of power, and behind which are secured not only
your own imistedrate advantage arid security, bet the merino's-
ary Interest; cf Europe. Let you: reetsisatics. re:sweetie...4,
statesmen, and great dtintaries, consecrate It. F.r unfortu-
nately, should you remit to an unjust and illiberal policy,:
stead of a manly and enlarged system, vim will not only All up
the rocoaire of your own wecrthrew, accelerate the means of
your owl. subjegation, hut actualls destroy the hope, of oe
eivilitt if world, lad lose the eliMe itsel. Hader them nnyces
Owes I give an ardent and sincere support to the AGlcad.mtrat
of ine Noble Yri, ed "

Loft b 1111.1• ti (MO. auseht tie mei marked atiesien

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the loon, to &clan. that he would be gong* s der,
of his duty to the ~at and independent hods V fr..m..14
rho deleratirit to him the isonottaut trust of repotoptitiee if he sit!ferei a ittettirto whirb brough tint oinotto ta;
kl..jeatra hieniat.n. into conaltleratioe,t to pre wait ;
end, na..4 anintsdrer•WM The e
.."..; fi 'no .r.hhir 4.e..tleosau (Mr. Peroestly. bad
iiiii,froyourei to prove. th it the ptiii.g oho, 111 ..1 ...a
Nt. enl,eet,tes had dams% to adv.,. His 144e47 la 4,„..,
tI4I laat P...llament, wa. the IYatt libel./ to haint'S.4
public Lumen. Bait the oho to against tho eve ..nn
the otier!u;neen which tha business revored by ta4
Ineramire ; it went further; it strelo.yr! them cr
that ineathro, until they hid 'teem, inn* their sunset. r: rectittola tn a d.,solutwirt, beraote IMP] wry, •urrt Savor( gif ail itt4cp, tlen• Y.. f
orted weer L.. rn .4tl that YarhatuYY.t. th.y Getc4 tint ii:.4.lipt,
„Nrrup,
Its the acci,
•Uprol IA .he w4irh was thia n.gyht tes4. a hare was nenL Mg y cAttli Us. noblie eye TM app.iiit-nenr th,
iloitithitlee of Vion.tee was reennamended, bat what caesd.
pj..l.l.l•••Mag efria kw public
g.,„
tilt very first ..fasit,we Gosertanse.t W 3
a.
oower aloha** of 11.1 !ave. -boat characta ,
cent on thy Jnorn.l. nl that a..d
...,4„jalsy mat usual ebary. a het
ret dolmas of the ulCons.nons ?( Hos, t •,11
r.-.p.et to thy dun dot- OMMIS4 E that la,
ii
not to the rens., hot t a not's:no! of the
the dark passions of the human heart tt try hod
youi•l to appeal to bigotry, to Croot.riyro, ,t.,,
"r•ie tropoph 1.35 but te•nowrary I toad .I.re f.
sno an 4 preiiiii,er they stioe.fte.4 inti.e pr o, ukc„
the claming tool 1-1111 f 41t4 pen. "boot litigant', .4 t. ,
character soon tasoishel the leltis•n•i, •el t.•
muted por„aga ors. T M dig OM/ eon its "ley, i
'ha. eonsbmation or inuotiort th,y at
tailed to the council. ig their sorrrYien, h- „
vollicy, and h.rela •,
mitt prevent us from Cling ju,tier to the tpotsh
age.ahad

Itt)KritT IJUND .poke a (-iv rondo ir. d Ica al
his father, anti in auppeq of the Addrta,.

Mr
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w au• tle
er•
malaria a miiiktefs lottolllll +tape. .11 the •autudamht of
hu Kuhl.. Friend
Mr.CRU.AKER (Alf mhrr r., Downtm,rielt) made a 6,1
anA ama•toi speech, which keel the /I•esse tot r•p
of laughter, at the etauteteua Haternicieuta eke.' Jura:te.
ireA hn 0.1100.1

Earl TEMPLE glefe.eki the late ‘lmin.atratioe weak slit
wa►mth

1... rd HENRY rETTY. In • illeech ate',ll4'",4elrarta,
and will abilitt , entered tub, a rlll Illt•.111•Intto,
the AM n( thl late Adavoistratt•ota and contend') nal lh
et ta an iretelsee whatever for the la:e IN I.let •
men', estop. that Hit Mapt.ty's Tt,o^p, hat
'silted ...ewer, sought by that means to mews it. We„o.,
exceouinely, that the at was of the how, and the
it r, preveote w tiftertag libtn detail of the Noble Lott
Speech, Inrl .4 thole wbo followed.
_ _ _

M.. Will rig E ttoingle allndrd In the late caa44
for Weak.. Is he:i. it, an( stated, Wing rep r tv. h
In his hand, that h( . Ormsby, the sol.cin, r,r to. t.,
eatitt in Pelaini, went &tan to the F. ctinn, an..
witted on a Mr. John Grogan, for .• -

eating lino to elloti4li t•te Mbu,t .ia: Con t.d.oe + I
prorniiht the f••••signritetst rd the 01411,n11 rd the I .1.1 CO, I%
GlefiAll. hi, brothrr. which vrrm twie.t,d

Sar ARTHUR WELLEhI.EY that
mean of Ireland bad not anterfaverloar Kivraa any :11..r1 !Pi
Mr.Ormsby upon Oa. calve& l h..l .I,”' i.a.penpri vie pea
made of Oat intluenci., it Wit unknor to timerann.rt
Mr. WARD raid a laws words an *taping% of toll Amer.!.
meat.

Sr ."I!1N NEWNAT said, the utter of qtr.
as. ye I le: tly compatilsle with the tau, awl net caiLet upqr.:,a
.• asi.uoist I. it if he could. Ile eb..lh—e-4
ttiaht Idottourehle Secretary sh•rie the rower,
and mid that the lint ohje.l *of the •. re,,ent was fp 44.
passim h4n of the orreneecce of h.. ce.,.stitostots. h..' hi/
(Mead in this as well as elmost every other oft wails
nature, aad the proof of the Vawr, Via` he had fun
icon, more votes on his last eleflioo„ th.n ee had when re
was Clmucetiew of the Each, queer for te tt ~sr! 0 re Volt 4
Kingdom. The abuse tf the
connitut.o,,, paa w la tau
c.misery was molt bcalidalows and diltracef..l, end the in.M.l
obi 'et of tee Government was to carry thou point by t.Pt writ
kid of Ih/wince

The quested,' bring then loudly till's' for. lb. Noise 4.
vuseds and the numb••rs • ;Tea red de fellows...
Fos the original AdJnies . .310
Against it . . 163

Maio;lt, for the Ministry. . 19.)
The Ilrotrie being resumed,
The CiIANCILI.I.OK of the EXCIft,QuER Rene netieP,
that he would. on Tmerrl I y neat, sub•uit a earnaori tor the AP.
titivation the House, respecting the timed of elitt Cue.
toittee of
&lemma/ at lIALY-PAST SIX ir•Ceck.

KING% TIIE.ATRF.Ttioi eeewng, the Popular Cowie
Opera, int tied, IL F Vnco hilt LA IdUSICA, ie
which Midaine Catalani sod Swear Sahli, will portecom, fn/
of the for.t ad, tho Spanish o.v,toditiiriat. After the Ors;
the lavuorite Begot Llt SPAR AIL.

VAUILHALL.-4M M next, Juan N. wil ba
GRAND GALA, and Balloant MO*, et Flitg.WORKS._

iiirATRF-ROY tRY•MAREET-rhi; EVER:

IND, June il, will to ions. mM THE MOUNTAINEERS.
fY w hick will :30 malkled.• Vane called 'ELIE IRISH WIDOW.

THE BRITISH PRESS.

IA/NIK),
SATURDAY, JUNE V.

The badness of the Session commenced yesterdal
with His M•J BIT Y'S Speech. which was deltvc.ed Ly
Commission, by the Lotto ers Attest Loa. Ao Anw.vd-
rnent to the Address was moved se bath Hooves.
The Attendance in both was very full, particularly
that of the Commoll3. The number of Menthe..
sworn in that House, up to (*lock yesterday.
amounted to 563 ; the
.greatest number ever know'
to have been sworn in that Hena. is 10 Ana
aspire of time. Above /0 u'eleck, white Mr.
Wiseman was speaking, a great sensation was
excited by the entrance of Her Royal Highness :.e
Princess of WALIS. and a young Lady,licr Com-
panion ; they took their seats in the Gallery. 01) tx
right hand ..f she Speaker's Chair. needy Derr c e
Treasury Ilenr.-h. and in front of that °coy
she Leading Members of the Oppositinn.--
4i Se Galleries are appropriated to the me 11 • c
Menthes. equally es any other part of the /Lc
and equally crowded upon a full Attendance. Ire:
Royal Highness anal her Companiunorf coarie. .t
amongst the Members; they were dressed in win.--
Her kiyal 'Highness wore a veil thrown b telt. sal
droplayei a quantity of jewels in her hair. bt,e
appeared in high health and opirit. ; conversed wits
several of the Members about her. and took a great
interest in the Debate. About one o'clock His
Royal Highness the Duke of Cur D entaml
the lion,e, with Mr. Dees. Her Royal Hig•
did nut retire till four o'clock

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Rived at St. Ilakaa, from China.

LJNDUNi—Pnei.d by G. DAVIUNON. No 117.
edv". 11". Wed, Covent-gavil..n, ..id pis 01•16•1 al tbe
"let, 11..c1i .4 Si. as •,ent% Chun*, fimild.
W $ll.lOl, er•No. T, H.. Dt.esti Lefts Any
U den, he fur dm Pape, teat be Ithe vow crag rie
lam was mudded wi•
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bran soder
Irk one rust rn
take the earl
I enr.art, in
prtavisiona ol
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