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smannesee,_ __ _ - _ . - _en .- ain 1819 there vs% Madame 31ontholim ;in INN there *ere hone i
that defence would- bet and he- no doubt that law wan • viola-lie Biel there wait none; in Itent there was one. anAusirian Count.
Oust of the Constitution, which went to create an absolute el inittetel There acre omit females amongst those he had enuntendna fowl
awl give shesilurc power roan individual, which was never intended llt wax for these—it was for certain fonnles, mimed Juliet and
by the free and limited (:onititutionl4. nightie!. (Hem.) It was ' ("islet ; they hall consented to overturn the Constitution, for IM'ef
therefore sneer natural that hr and his front!. shuuld be wearied ,um it they did, as far an they went. It was not only • violation
Is in making a optleria defence, than the linene would he from hear- 'of our hospitality, hut it was miliveneve of all the principle of
mg those atgunients to which the Right lion. tieidenian had !our Cons( ion. There was another assertion of the Secretary of
alluded upon tint present occasion. He. her one, must ripens his i State, which he must notice. Ile slid not wish, upon hi. homme,
dreappoiatiiieet at the measure being at all brnisght teward, for 'to my any thing that was uncivil. lie wished to stand well with
upon the last discuaeinn of thus question, if he unite-food him Ithose in whom company he was to spend %one hoursevery day ; but
correctly, he declared this would be the lee discuoion upon the when the feentlenian spoke of his responsibility as Secretary of
subject ; that nothing nu re would he head of the odious and State, he wandered he bed the face to make the assertion. Ihd
encrable measure: and, as if for the purpose of stifling any at- he not know, that when a measure was pureed in that Bowie, winch
tempt at diecussion, and to disarm any opeesition that might en- was afterwards found to be wrong, the House did nut even infinite
so, he had said. "lot It goon, you shall hear no further of it at into it ? They slid not admit it WAS wrong, hut they passed an An
any other time" Upon that tiny eight. on his way too the of Indemnity at once. The Act was not or much Ina! of the Mi.
Howse, he had heard from a person who he thought was mo 1 , Meter as it was that of the Parliament ; and the Right Honourable
Ruined'', that the Right Honourable Gentleman would per Gentleman may justly come to the !louse and say, " You knew
nu farther with his ItiU. lie did not wish to quote authorities what I was doing, and the evil, if it dun aver, ought to fall upon
of this nature ; boa upon this oceasien, he might with perfect f yourselves." As to the hospitality hooded of by the Rt. Hoe. Gent.
safety, if he thought proper. This authority had informed him!' the Enipenw of Morocco was equally hospitable. Ile received the
the Bill would notbe carried farther, but would be suffered to die a Spanish Conentutionalists when they fled from the French army
hateful sheath, without neentherstmn—without pity ; and that it and the Royalists, at a time when it was natural to suppose the
would be said of it, that it was neither Rand nor bed I
; and thus Allied Sovereigns would be indignant with hint fur sit doing, and
there would he an end of a measure of which we ought never to I when, he was 'sorry to say it, they were retuned remittance, and at
have seen the beginning or the veil ; a measure which was not only an En lash port, Gibraltar; when after being four days off the
matt bootie to the itietitimmis of the country, butt which, in ad. ! coast, they were not able to say what would become of them. lie
Onion, had celummattel the elieracter of the p.eriple of England ; it I was obliged to the Right lion. Gentleman for not speaking, as the
was a stigma upon the inilimiriiiimate hospitality for which the; Attorney-(leneral for Ireland slid on a former teraeilm, of the re.
people of thin country were remarkable-3n hospitality which they 1 vulutionary devil that wasetillabrood, and though eomehonest potpie
bestrewn' without favour Of partiality--which they conferred with-, thought he wars laid, it was not the caste, tut he was still rnamitig
nut any distinction of seat or party; or, if they made any die- , abroad. It was curious to consider that this !till wee always
tinelioo, it was, like that made by one of the greatest characters , said to be passed for particular occagions. In 111112, halms
of antiquity, in favour of the conquered rather than of the victor.. • Bonaparte's power was not sufficiently confirmed to enact it;
OUP. If he had a single voice to second him in the House., he' in 11411, because the power ut the Bourbon. was not estab.
mould not allow the measure to pass. Ile had said he was unw I. hefted ; in 1818, on account of the revolutionary devil ; in
ling to tome setherities, hut he must take the liberty of quoting 11;18, we were told to wait for the evacuation of the Yenisei Mo-
she authority of the Right Honourable Member Klee present Teases. What was to be feared ? was it the foreigners? Lord
l'reitilent of the Board ot Control) upon the last time when this Grenville soid it was the enemies in the country that were to be
CIUMMIOTI was debated. lie would not mime these tepees:Mine from tented. The late Lord Londonderry was afraid of the foreigners in
any inalinoli. gratiiication which he might bedispreged to feel, from • the country, and therefiee he required itimulute authority over
controlling them with sentioneets which he thought at present I them. It was for this very reason that he most especially pro-
omog t nee slid he wish to suake any Improper allusion to former' tested against it ; it was for this reason, as well as bemuse it
virtue, but he quoted it for the purpose of lamenting the persoesl , granted such power to the Secretary of Sore, that he oppmed it in
weakners, when he submitted to the change of all the opinions to • the moot derided manner. This made us the arcotsuplicea of
which he referred. lie would, with three sentiments, quote the! the Holy Alliance. We were too long the accomplice% of the
sacked opeositiontgiven by the present President sit the Board of! tyrant% of the Ilsily Alliance. Mee, hear.) For let a man
Control •• the Alien Bill, intim year 1816. He did not know if he' entre! ahnsd, and he would hear in every Tooter, that the
was COfferf, but if he was costeely Informed, the Right lion. ! passing of tole Bill made us the accomplices at dine tyrants.—
alember had e red himself with a zeal and vigour worthy of ' rm. Bill was a part and parcel of that las policy by which the
tire good prima of which he was the ailvocate, and which he' A flied Sovereigns songhteo esteblish their tyranny in the stalemates
xpe,
mei-iota& in I creme of die 1 eitatitsitioe. The Right Hon. Gentle-1 of Europe. It also formed a pretext for other tuitions of flue Co- '
mail wetted he would an against the Alien Bull, with bodily ! tincnt to adopt • similar rule and line of conduct toy/anis us. He
elides:cc and physical force. (laughing.) Fur his part he, was himself at Milan when a friend of his was obliged to quit
wee not the advocate of violence soil physical force in re-; Naples fur urging an Au/drier' officer to take his hat off, as lie in-
sisting measures inthat House. Ile did not know, as he re- , terupted hie fruend's view of the performance. 'l'n his surprise, his
marked her ire, thet he wee quite correct, but he read these espies- 1 friend received an order the next day to leave 31ilan. Ile (Mr.
signs in the report of the Partiamenhor debate. Ile had certainly A lloblionse) interfered with the Austrian Minister on his !Khali, and
read, that the Right lion. Member hod said he w sold oppose s• et I received fur answer, that the South of Italy was ninch " insure
Bill by phyeiced force and bodily resistance; he heal been charged salubrious at that tisnenfycar than the Milanese Stine." This was
with thief, worile; he was chargel with using them in the year the precise answer which was given huts ; Minato cages of %widen
leen The Right lion. Gentleman was not in the Howie at the orders for departure enured son other Italian States. A gentle
gone ; for his part he had waited for loin ; the President of the man of his acquaintance. travelling to Greece, was also stopped at
Board of Comm! slid not armor. The expressions were not de- Rome, although he was only there its (remits, and the moon of
sited ; it was not poseible that the Prrodent of the Pond of Con-; this solely was, because he was 'supposed to entertain liberal min-
eon though absent hinted'', could be without a friend in that , thitents on the subject of disturbances which fuel taken place three
flouts,, who might say thee eepreeeione were not used. The Right years before. These, and many other instances which he might
HOIMAITAI/It Gentleman might say the expression was not true, mention, went to abew that the Allen sought to establish one
as it had nut been acted upon ; this was not conclusive ton general system of European policy ; and it was for the Right
en dce upon the subject, for it was well known in all that a per. Honourable Secretary for the Home Depertnient, to con-
sent might say one thing, and his acting might be another; eider whether he should cundisand to be (as it was sought
Ana thus, although Is might have 'molten of ;rhymed force, he had to make hint) a police-runner to the Holy .11liance. bet the
net used it. 'lnc best argument% which had ever come from the present Bill not be renewed, and the pretext would. he taken
mouth of the lit. lion. Gee. had been uttered upon the occaeiim : away by which the Allies expelled whom they liket from the t;on-
and it omild nut be eon:amoebic of him, if he expected to hear tinental States. In 1816, when the Right Hon. Secretary intro.
wens of these arguments, by whirls he meant to support the pro. ducat this Bill, he remembered, that, in the 'lisle...ion of it, the
prissy of pawing the Bill, tor he much feared the Rt. lion. Gen. Rigln Hon. fientlnnan introduced • classical iilmeion, in which he
demon cane shorn to the Haute determined to support it. Ile compared the revolutionist to Archimedes, who only 'sought a plate
knew it was the cuetfun of the Miniettire to tell the Members of the an which he might test his lever, to subvert and overthrow all con-
Howe to wait until the provisions, of the Bill were to be discussed. minuted governments ; but he would give the Right MM. Secretary
He week' 'eke the liberty of repeating what the lost-nal Mem- credit now for believing that the power to be dreaded was that of
bee lust Knareberough hail said last Session. It was not the the Sovereigns, and not of the people of Europe. We had gone too
provisions of the Bill he objected to; it was to the Bill Itself he far in supporting • policy, of which, too much tyranny, and not too
objeeted ; it was alpinist the grows infringement of the Conatitu. much liberty, formed the principal ingredient. It was time, there.
don; it was spinet the vital alterations in all our institutions he fore, that that policy should be changed. Ile had said before, and
protested. He protested against it because it was • base and would beg leave to repeat the assertion. that wl.en the !tight lion.
merry nwonliguire with that 'mien which bound Europe in Gentleman (Mr. Canntng; came into office, he thought that a more
chains. (Ilene, hoar.) /le could not look upon this measure with- libels! line of policy would have been adopted, and diet the national
out essaida that it prevemed the empire at large front returning honour would not be corupromised. and the national interests too,
to those sound principles which had been eo unfortunately aban- for a nation's interests and a nation's honour were invariably bound
dotted. He did nut wish to trespass upon the Howie, nor had he up together. The papers which related to South America, were, in
time to repeat el the arguments. (Hall by the lit. lion. Gentleman ; bus mud, satisfactory as far asthey went. In them the Right lion.
but if he thought htineelf right in these arguments, h., left hint of Gentleman declared his intention of not quietly permitting any pro.
ovum un the enjoyment of the advantages to be derived from them. esedings against that country. It would he only consonant to the
lie was willing to admit the Right Hon. Secretary was well salute spirit to go a step farther , by abstracting our neck from the
skilled in every part of learning through which he thought proper yoke under which it was sought to make us instrumental in the
to travel upon this occasion. Amongst the other branches of learn- oppression of other nations. It was true, this was Olt war question;
lag to which hr must have applied himself since he tittered it was one relative to the propriety of • change of leaky. Ile had
upon the discharge of his present office, lie could not have over. endeavoured to show the expediency of changing that policy, and
!newt the Money of the ancient policy of the country ; It was the two principal modes by which they ought to give effect to such
therefore the Right lion. Gentleman had not brought to the de- a change, were—pat, by the repeal of the Foreign lEnlietzuent Bill ;
lists than numbering blunders committed by persons who had and, Id, be not renewing this Bill. On several occasions the policy
discussed this subject—blunders which had been eu often quoted of the Allies was disapproved of. In a letter to the Cowen at
and so often refuted in that House. There was, however, a Verona, from the 'tight llonourable Gentleman, the am:ecotone
mistake made by the Right lion. Member in the year toes It Norm Spain were pr tested against through our Antbasador
was a misunderstanding of our Magna Charm; the Right lion. there. Indeed there was sufficient to show that we felt convinced
Gentleman could not deny it, for lie saw the Magna !:harts in that we had reason to after our policy; and the free institutions of
has Mend at that time. Ile ventured to sae that foreigner* were this country, and the reition she commands, entitled this !loupe
liable to be removed from the country by the order of the Coon- (and he hoped some voice more powerful than his woold be raised
el. He did not know that it was the opinion of Sir E. ('oke, to express it) to speak out in a tone anal manner which would as.
who had commented upuu the passage in 31agna Chaste, that it found the tyrants of the Continent, and convince them of our repent-
had not a rererience to an Order sit' the Conne il, but to an Act of wee (though tardy), in having so long co-operated in and favoured
l'arlistrent. Ile would not deny his refertnice to Magna Charts; their designs. Government should continue ho longer—he would
belt ice at the time did not know that Sir E. Coke had denied not say to be, but even considered to be—their accomplices. This
t his explanation ; and thus he had tumbled into a pit full of country ought not only to be free from a participation in die designs
teem, who had Pullen upon the none bltinsler. Ile had given the of the Sovereigns of Europe, but she should be, like ('tsar's wile,
M motels this document as an Act of Parliament. Upon looking above the suspicion or such a participation. Ihe foreign and inter.
into it, they consideret it, and moaned until it, as if it were an nal policy alike enjoined on us the expediency of not continuing
tenter of me Council. They would be, he was well aware, most this 'till. It gave a pretext for continuing in other countries what
a'lllOUll to convert an Act of the Legislature into an Order of ass a part and parcel of the Idol y Alliance, who object was to
Curried, when that 1101111 r was not sufficiently compliant—when allow no resting-place for the foul iff a freeman, lw any principle
it was not as gentle and obedient as they could wish. to flourish calculated to promote the happiness and freedom of man.
He would now give the Right Hunourable Member the full kind. When this Bill was first intneluted, it was introduced under
benetit in the mistake alluded to, and he would maintain he could an arrangement, and in a situation of affairs, very different from
not mower it. There were other arguments in the hands of the the present. FUT his part, lie saw no reason wile this country
Right Honourable t lenient:an, but he would not be prevented from should establish, as a necessary principle of legislation, that
taken' exception to theta—he would take exceptions even to Acts foreigners should not in this country be permitted to combine and'
us Parliament. There were Iwo cases referred to in the dote of form designs 'against their respective governments. There have been
Henry 11'. %Welt had been answered before, but had been again frequent itietances in which, when it favoured the views of the
qiiiesel At what time. he would ask, did these circumstance* hap- Cabinet of a country, that that country encouraged plots
pen ? Fran what period were these prier lints to be taken ? Erten and machinations for the overthrow of the government which it
a period where there was no law Itir the waives, much less for a might have suited its purposes to subvert. Hut he would again re-
strange. Ile wan not to tell the Howse, that in the reign of Henry mind the House, that it was nut of plots by foreigners they
ter: Fo ink Mere was dieputed succeoinie and there were many were to be apprehensive, hut of the Sovereigns. T. Ise too
persoes, horn in England and on the ether side of the channel, who anxious about the former, and neglectful of the latter, it was to be
wee favourable to the reuse of Richani Ilui Second ; and thus, afraid of the %beep when the wolf was abniad--afraiti of plots in
al so all, the. Acts quested poised in the reign of • usurper, and favour of liberty, when they should unite in putting down plots in
win the ascension was dispute,. Three precedents were too favour of tyranny. If It were due last sentiment
to
hail , he oulautitted to, and they were only husl renninse to by 3li. utter, with hislaat voice would he conjure the House to beaware that
teeters when they had es maintain armaments which were unpala- they could not too anxiously guard against the countenancing of a
table nod not adoitemble. As 111 the preeedents drawn from the loran, in which. if they would not join as friends, it was nought to
gene ne Queen Elisabeth, was it not to be rementbered, that by cajole them as dupes. Ile had been accused of seeking for the
tees-saline wily 350 miles from Londun we smite to another rerun- establishment of some Utopian system. Ile denied it, but would
try, iltiebitest by a different race of men, the Sovereign of whom not deny that he sought a change in our preset policy ; and the
was nin.uilered to be the heir of the English crown, and change he would propose, was to return to that told and good plan
was by many coneideresl to be the rightful King ; and hough of constitutional government which our ancestors laid down, who
ii s ourcession was admitted, it was the policy of Elizabeth to were themselves patrons of liberty, anxious to KIM:Tye it in
I. ave the atatmewsmi as a God setup, and Iti•Ver to say in her England, end not niggardly to extend it to other nations. It was
lifeeime that the King of Scodand wee her mecessor. It was for the limier to choose between being the accomplices of the ty-
Owego,* the policy of the queen and her alimony to separate and rents of Europe, or modem's of their 'erosion, in avowing
SOW diSOSIOO between the lertglieh and Scotch. There was also at themselves the patrons of freedom, and friends to the happiness of
the %ame time various conspiracies from Spain to expel the Queen mankind. ( Item, hear.) Thanking the House for the indulgence
hoot the thrum:, and unite the Catholics against the Protestants. with which they had heard him, he begged to propose an amend-
At this period there was an Act paused against !Watchmen in one met. To use the expression of an Honourable Member (we be-
Psetinitient which wits tutu repm. lea. As 11/ James the Serena, it Have Mr. Martin), he would " take the bull by the borne," and
egoist be al el that he was a greater tyrant than Jame% the Meetly oppose the Bill; and at the some time intimated his inten-
tness!. in whatever he had read of these two notable monarchs, Con of reconling his opinion on the policy of Englittott on this
be never homed it denied, that, however, the former may be in- question, which was that at which, he was sure, the 111:111/e and this
lenw io 'Odom, he was tar beyond hint in tyreunr. What was saintly would ultimately arrive:._
the maiden of Janos the Second epee due revoiation of the edict "That this Howie is Mt pion, that the Alien Bill is a disgrace
of Neat: ? lhd he . releavour to prey mit the influx of strangers to the Statute Book ; and that torenew it, either permanently or for
isi this courier'? Did lie procure an Alien Act or any such any period, would he, however limited, highly Injurious to the clia-
memo. ? Ile did no such thing. lie apprehended no slnnger from nine and interests of Englushonn abroad, and destructive of due
them ; he suffered them to reinsert in the regintry ; these strangers principles of' their Constituttun at home.
were not Catholics; they did not agree her faith with James, and That this House, moreover, looks upon the Alien Rill as a
they were flying, not from Ms enemy. 100 (coon Louie XIV. who badge of severity, connecting the British Government with the
Was his friend, and with whom hr we, POlAlpirilMl to destroy the league impiously ' lilted the Holy :elliance ; and this House,
liberties of his eountry ; and notwithstanding, without consulting having witnessed, wish home and alarm, die nissostrousaggrossions
Lewis, he retained the Proteetante here, eyes at a time when of that Alliance on the rights of intlividuals stud the independence
danger was to be apprehended teem done Anal here lie must re. of nation*, will never eauction a measure by which the Etiglish nu-
flees upon an aseroon snide byeieloamed Friend of his, that a. tinn ntay appear to make minium cause with the alabettors of
ha back as 1811 years. there oW Not an instance of this power tyranny amine* the victims of perscution."
terrified and possessed by the Gros!. In the dine of ('harps 11., elr. 11'1iNN, its supporting the present Bill, was principally
P foramen leicanie oxiii.sesiu, to him for haying an ihtrigue with induced to do so from the circumstance of many of its enactments
the Dwane of Portestiouth, awl the King. though posswietiof minty having been mitigated from that shape which it assumed when the
alliatitala a, being extremely j. slums, would be most glad to bed the Bill was originally introduced. Several of its envier enactments
obnirainen foreigner away, yet he cutdd not doll. and he was in were now comeliest, which gave it altogethera different complexion
paled to emlitre the 'sightly penance of sitting in the Mayhems., and character. During the whole war he had agreed in the pm-
(of whirls be was said so be Moder than the church), and wrung pricy of ersforeitig this Bill, for the nianifest assns of its conti-
hie Frenchman in the opposite box with the ladynuul yet under this nuance, in which this House and the country at that time con.
o.ertifyireg cireiinnuanee he was unable to seed the foreigner from curled. From the Restoration to the year 1793 this Bill had not
the *sentry. lie tilt obliged to do Right Hunoureble alember been called into action. In 1793 it was enacted, sod whilst the de.
for rot introducing to the liaise much of what was refined mon of the Freneh revolution carried OA hostility against the peace
0., former onfietinia. There were great autluwitiess against the and tranquillity of every nation in Europe, it was necessary that its
mesoure when it was proposed in the year 1793. laud leen- enactment should not cease; not that there was any thing very
Irate espresseJ himself moiled it. Burke said lIIIA law gave Mt- formidable in the numbers of foreigners; but aided and supported
weans In time of peseta power too great for liberty. Burke had by French influence and Freed' money, the power thereby afforded
tint wiener lights on the subject which were ponsesseed by the them sit' creating discontent wax to be apprehended. To prevent,
Attorniesakentoal our England and Ireland hie. '1 Gentle en therefore. the political nochinatione of k nice, I nce. this Bill was in_
roil the Heuer this power was me new, that it was as old ait the troduced and continued duting the war The Hon. Gentleman did i
cooor.on law ; hut until the statute was enacted, this thunderbolt hint the honor to ale to hie conduct itelftl6, when this Kill was,
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Wig Wentitruit:d nue such a 'lupe and form as lined the hands of '
ttie Illinswers .. the frown. It was lined by the (truth:men imp°.
site, that it gave a t additional power w the I:rown, anti it ws• to
he juottleil by a wentanent emergency, or Uptee a ynn. iph or self.
di:fence. Ard he had said. chat he eon/insetl he coui.l not tin.
defiant. that there should he a IMltiarittatietli neft-i.sity far the
tlausea nf the Dull in Itta As to the permanent tinier.
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under discussion in a Committee. The lion. Itemleatian had raid,
that he (Mr. Wynn) then declared his intention of °misting it by
physical knee and bodily resistance. Now the fact really was, that
his opposition then anise to a particular clause, which was now con-
ceited, and when this Übe was retained in 1816. and when the dis-
cussion of it was protracted until three o'clock in the morning, he
(Mr. Wynn) said that he would resist that chaotic by all the 1111C3115
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gersey," he did not a•utp Amid dim; they savoured a little. he
thought, of his r.widetiee in Ireland i se far Inuit giving a nia:lte-
na.t,eil necessity for this measure, heihil 1111 t give even a mural tile.
Mit. in ht• oplidon, he had a 1111101C111411e111 one agaiiist it, and
tear the nun • r the venous arrr•ted ii.uler the Act since the
awr l 111 I : in dee yiair these was noise ; 111 11:17 there were two, Law
i aim alai has 11100 1 in 18111 there were a I:*., whom: 01111 M he read;

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and forms or the Howie that he could resort to. This was the lan-
guage he then used ; he appealed to his lino. Friend (Sir J. 3lack-
'numb) but the language impaled to him by the Ilent. fientleman
was such itt he had never expressed in regard to any Bill that had
ever been introduced into the House. (Ilear, hear.) It had been con-
tended, that ere extended no greater hospitality to other eeuntriew
than the Emperor of Illorocco; and the Honourable (.lentleman had