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the Crown Lands hod beets soot for ana qbaseion-
ed, and it was foetid that the sews of the buildings
had been fixed OD WON/US his consent. In coupe-
quence of this another scite had breu fixed .upon,
which in the opinion of the Surgeon and Phyiriciati,
way perfectly unexceptionable. He accordingly
moved for " a Copy of a letter from George Har-
rison, Ea+ to the Surveyor-General of the Crown
Lands, dated April 1809, with his answer thereto."
Mr. M A X WICI.I. said, that since the last discussion
upon this sulijrct, he had gone to Chelsea, to in-
spect the premises, and found ell admission refused
even to Members of Parliament, and that the
workmen were employed in boardilig up the Iron
railing, so that no person 'night see what was still
going on.
Mr. Lone said, he had given no orders to that,
effect, and hail no doubt dint the whole steps
taken by the Treasury would. when the papers
were laid before the House, meet with their appro-
bation.
Sir OSWALD MOSE TAY said, that after what had
fallen from the Honourable Baronet who had

erdeted to be remelted. It had herd said that ha
stated that only one house would be built stroll the
ground; all he lino stated was, that there ass but •
small .riot Inc 11Hildill): 011 it; but that that spot
was only sufficient for die building of one house, he
had never said. An Hon. Baronet had said that he
had stated that the rrassiry had bought the whole
of the grotnid tier the purposes of the Hospital ;
what he stilled ask, that they bought the ground
frow a helmet* that part of it would he as advantage
to the Hospital.
Geo. TARLETON explained.
Mr. Luxe bititi, that it did not belong to him to
admit the Gentleinen of that limier little the pre-
mises. An Hun. Gentleman thought it extraordi-
nary that nothing was done, until the Him. Bart.
brought forward the inquiry ; the moron wag, that
no complaiiii had been made ; ahe circumstance, of
course, did not collie to the kilowledge of the Trea-
sury. All lion. General had said, that four acres
were in the inrsaem•siou of Col. Goldon, and only
half au acre appropriated to the purposes of the
Hospital ; he could assure the House, that above

brought this matter forward (Sir Francis, Burdett); one acre was nppropristed to the Hospital ; iu fact,
whose indisposition prevented him that day from that it poiutessed all that was considered neeetwary
attending in his place; he should have expected to it, with the exception of about an eighth of au
that free access would have been given to Meat- Luxe, shout which there were disputed opinions.
hers of that House to inspect the premises, but he Mr. Ca Luta re said, that he was one of those
unilermtnod that Members were excluded both on Meudiers whoa ltemitted to own-lime the premises.
Monday mid Tuesday. He was told, that this had but on applying` fur admission, he as. told don
been done by the orders of the prevent Commander- Colonel Cordon bud giveu orders that no toe
in-Chief. He hoped this war not die case, hut should In' admitted. He then rung a bell, which
that the tictimit liberality would be shown to the was answered by a young man who repeated the
Hospital, by the whole of the gsrdeu being giveu same words to hint. Alter this he celled tepoti
up to the peirpose originally intended, the inure friend of his who belonged to the establishment,
especially as the lands had been given up by Lord but he was not at home ;he eccordinely left wont
Yarborough on that account, at a leas sum than with him, stating his wish to see the grounds, mid
he would have sold the lease to any other person. received a note in answer, representing that us ini-
Mr. Huseessos raid, lie had read the whole of practicable without an application to Sir David
the Currrapondenee between Government and Lord Duudas, the Governor of the Hospital. That
Yarborough, within these few days, but found that circumstance gave a colour to the statement of his
on the contrary the highdit possible praise had HOh. Friend, and lie thought it right to explain it.
been endeavoured to be obtained by those acting Mr. W. WY NNE thought it strunge that the
for his Lordship. A legal opinion was taken as to complaint of the Physician should not have been
whether Lord Yarborough could, by the terms of made before; and if his recollection was right, the
his lease, make any use he chose of those hinds, as Hon. Gentleman had stated on a former night, that
he proposed to make a wharf upon the River side, the Physician amid Surgeon approved of the bate.
and o decision war given in the negative ; and ac- Mr. LONG said, that be alluded to the scite of
cording to the value tongued by arbitration, • the Infirmary.
sum was paid for the lease for the use of Govern- Mr. BARHAM said. that when it was evident that
went. the Members of that House were excluded, some
Mr. PERCETAL said that the whole matter had steps ought to be taken to find out by whose orders
been submitted to the Directors of the Hospital, they were excluded.
who declared that the quantity of ground they now Mr. WORTLEY STEWART said, that he heard
possess was sutfictent. Upon that the application that ten thousand people went to see the ground at
was made by Colonel Gordon, and what was unne- Chelsea.
cessary for the purpose of the Institution set to 'fie question that the papers moved for should
lota. With respect to the orders for excluding the he laid before the House, was put and agreed to.
Members of the House of Commons, they could Mr. W. WYwax moved for a return of the nun-
not have been the orders of the Governors of the her of men recruited by the British army in Spinal
Hospital, for the premises were in the possession of and Portugal.
heather person ;if any orders were given to that Mr. liuseisson brought up the papers relative
-effect, it was natural to expect that it was from to Chelsea Hospital, which were orth red to Ise upon
the possessor they proceeded, and not from the the table.
Governors of the Hospital. When the public Sir Tdostea TURTON said, that he was perfectly
attention was drawls to • particular spot, as it sensible that any Member who came to ask lon the
was to that the possessor might naturally have attention of the House to a subject upon which-it
given • general order for the exclusion of the pub- had already decided, should have strong ground
lie, without including Members of Parliament, to sit port him iu his request; it Would' be nee's-
though by accident it had had that erect. If any nary fur him to dew that there was something in-
one connected with Government had interfered voicing the dignity of the House; in addition to
with the admission of Members, the House might which he thought be could also prove to them that
with propriety make it a subject of inquiry ; but the liberty of the subject was concerned ; aenattet
if it appeared that persons in iiiferior and subordi- to which he was persuaded the Houtio would hoe
nate situations, or persons who were entirely dis- with greet considerution ;if such redeons did not
tin& from Government, had done so, it should not exist iii the present instance, he would be one of the
in his opinion occupy much of its lutetium'. last men to come forward with such aneppeal. He
Mr. MANNY, LL txplaliied. was sore they would be unwilling that any proceed-
General TABLETON said, that that was only the ins should he handed down to posterity from them
second time the subject had come under the consi- which would be likely to affect their liberty and el-
deration of Parliament—and he had reason to con- dependence, and would assure the House that be was
gratulate them that it had. One good consequence influenced i.e that bienneasby no other cousideratioe
bad already followed from inquiry, the scite of the than that ofjustice, tied a for their honour
house was to be removed. Another lee expected and consistency; he had no knowledge of the 'Arum
would result immediately, the admission of Mem- or family of the individual in whose immediate Ca-
bers to examine the premises. The fact appeared sour Ins motion would operate. He would sime
to be, that, of the ground bought for the purpose shortly the grounds upon which he founded it, and
of improving Chelsea Hospital, half an acre if they would only take a more accurate view of the
was applied to that purpose, and fear acres were .proceedings respecting General Claveriag, he was
spared to Colonel Gordon to build upon. They of opinion, that they would be inclined to retract.
were not to expect that the military establishment If, as he expected, a day had been set apart for the
of the country would decrease, on the contrary consideration of the evidence ; lie would not have
there was every reason to conclude that an increase hail occasion to trouble them that night, all parties
would ensue, and, therefore, the Hospital of would have had substantial justice dune them. Ge-
Chelsea should experience an increase of aCCOUIIIIO neral Clavering had been committed for prevents-
&lion. They had already ascertained that a gnev- Lion, but there was no precedent upon the Journals
ante existed ; he was desirous that the papers of the House of a person committed for veva-
moved for should be granted, as they would afford ricetion upon such evidence. It had been said
additional iaformatiou on the subject, with which, that he came with an intention to deceive the
if the House was not satisfied, it would have teal House, in a fact upon which it was anxious to he
opportunity of examining individuals at its bar, informed ; but let them consider under what cir-
for the purpose of ascertaining the necesaery facts ; cumntances he appeared before them ;he came not
he was persuaded the House would pause before it as • voluntary witness. he came in onwequence of
agreed to injure any public institntion, for the a letter sent by as How. Geotletosits-
purpose of gratifying any individual whatever. Here Mr. WHITBREAD rose to order. He said,
Mr. Possowav said, that he did not think the that if he understood the Hon. Baronet's speech,
worthy Baronet behind him at all censurable for it was his intention to conclude with a motion to
having stated, that he had heard the order wan reverse a proceeding which the House had debuted,
given by the Commentler-in-Chief ;he had rated and on which it had resolved that session ; such a
it as a matter he had heard ; it rested with the motion would, in his opinion, be it:consistent with
Ilronotteable Gentlemen opposite to contradict the ' the forms of the House.
report if they could. The only attempt to COW. Sir THOMAN TURTON said, that if that was the
tradiet it, was by a supposition, and suppmition only motion be intended to submit, the Houour-
wds not a satisfactory refutation. He (Mr. P.) able Gentleman's opiniess mightlamight.
wished to know whether the grant of the ground The Ses•ada observed. that he could ualy pro-
to Colonel Gordon was already made out, for if leis pow one motion at a time.
right of ownership was established. he might !mid Sir Tuos.TURTON acknowledged it was bisinten-
the house upon that very spot, which the Hon. dun to move for the release of General Clattering.
Gentleman had acknowledged to be so emotive- The SPRAICHR said, that that being the Hon.
taient. Baronet's motion, he was of opinion. that con-
Mr. Lone said that it was a conditional rent, it sistently with the forms of the House, he could not
provided that nothing should be erected on it that proceed with it. if the Hon. Hamlet thought lie
would interfere with the convenience of the Hos- could make not a case sullieleutly Aron to justify
a new proceeding, it would he for hies to she" why
Mr. Poesowet thought it eery-extraordinary General Cluvenng should be-dismissed, unbent
then that sttemut of the kind should be made, petitioning the authority of die House.
end that no inquiry should have taken place, until Sir 'flumes TUBTON said, he would state the
the Honnuretile Baronet had brought the business • grounds opoo which he thought that General Cis-
before the House :he recollected that an Hon. veriug should be dismissed in such a manner. There
Gentlemen had stated that the ground was of so ' wes • precedent of each* dismissal. as early as the
little value there could be but one house built time of Cherie,. the H. in the Mee of Sir John Her-
upon it. man ; he was committed for prevaricesioo, and
• Mr. Htnattseew mid, that it was not for the missed without petitinniog. lit the order wen-
. Trownry to say when the house should be built, hating the proceedings in dischargione prisoners, the
they had only to provide that it should lint inter- concluding words were s• the pnsoner slush tie
fere with the hospital ; having so provided, has brought up unites otherwise disposed of by the
thought thet„-if a house or any other building was Howie." Supposing he was not guilty, would it Ire
built so as to interfere, that building would be right to confine him until he had acknowledged his

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