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pared to make up their minds as to the ex ia words
of the motion most proper to be adopted ; with
him and others it was a matter of doubt whether
this motion should be referred to the Committee of
Finance, or to a new one, specially appointed.
Mr. W. SMinf explained.
Mr. SHERIDAN said, that in his view of the
suhjef t, the matter lay within a very avow com-
pass. The motion of the Noble Lord was not di-
refired so much to public economy. as to how far the
influence of Government extended to M,mbere or
the House; it was therefore useless to adopt the
extended motion of the Right Hon. Gentleman, by
inquiring into all the pensions and emoluments
rid out of the public money ;• their duty was not
to musk the matter, but to shew the public what of
the public money was amassed by Members of Par-
liament. Fifty millions had better be expended an-
nually in the country, than fifty thousand in the
House of Commons, (public offices excepted. held
by Members of that House, and which could not
',e :!voided); because whilst Members of Parliament
rr encrust-Ted by simmer's and the like. this
"old prove a continual wince of corruption. He
.yaed therefore to any alteration of the Noble
..orcrs. motion. It was fit the public should see
. c !luny Members of Parliament received pensions
• Government. It would he most fortunate it

iuld tarn out that there were but few arch ;
it it it appeared that there were many Memberi
..eho either direaty or indiredly received pensions,
sinecures. nr reversiessa. (et their coaneaions), the
would judge for themselves; at all events
the question ought not to be checked
Mr. HUSKISSON said. that as to himself he
hal been supposed to bold both a pension and a
place ; hut the fad was, he did not receive a pen-
sion now that he was in office.
Mr. CALCRAFT thought that sinecures and
reversions. as well as places granted to Arm4ers
of Parliam int. ought to he known to the public, in
order that tl.ey might judge on which aidl: •if the
House the greatest portion of independence mated.
tiodouhtedly. it would be ton much if the Hon.
Gentleman (Mr. Huskisson) should enjoy a place of
43G01. aeitear, and at the same time a pension of
XOOl Still, however, he understood that
I Gentleman enjoyed a sinecure; kid ed. it
would not be an easy niarter to cast one's eyes to
the Treasury Bench, without seeing those who ee_
jnyed sinecure places to a large amount. He did
not approve of throwing the proposed inquiry
upon the old Committee, but was for appointing a
Dew One.

Mr. ROSE said. that whateverrewards heha ever
had for his services, were well known to Oat House
and the country. He wished the proposed inquiry to
be made as extensively and satisfaaorily as p.ischle.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
proposed, as an amendment, that it sisouitl be an
itlsttuaion to the Committee of Finance to inquire
into the public expenditure of all places held by
Members of Parliament and others. above 2001.
a-year, he.
Lord COCHRANE acknowledred, that it was
not to be expected any great saving could be made;
but the adoptiou of his motion he considered neces-
sary, in order to remove an apprehension that Mem-
bers of that Howe were samaras& by improper my.
tives. For votes given in that House, Commissions
in the Navy had been diaposed of. He de,l,red he
had no other motive for Winging forward tots rao.
t'on. but the good of his country; and if adopted. its
would he for the icivantage of Ministers, by skewing
a proper disinterestedness of eondoa. It might he
very weal, if. after his motion was earned, the amend.
ed motion of the Right Hon. Crenilernan sh..uld be
elopted, but he did not wish one motion to superieue
the other. He wi,Led a Committee to be appoint..
ed. for the %retrial par csnes stated in his motion.
Mr. WHI I'EVIEA I) a:1.1 other+ explaired.
L•.rd HENRY po.rry argued in favour of
the original motion ; and

Mr. C. recnromend.d the amendment
prconied by the C.oancetlor ot the Exchequer.
The question being loudly called for. the House

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When strangers were re-admitted to the Gallery,
we found At. Perceval upon hie less ; who, after
sore turf:miry observaions. concluded by moving
• Istict iastrulions be given to the Committee of
Finance, to inquire it to the riatute of all ',mamas.
places, aoreures, a.td salaries, arising from the puh.
revenues, a. 1,1 to ascertain the names of the
pers,:n4 so receiving, with the exception of oilleers
hold rg Cnintnisainns in the Army and Navy. and
of ali o.lllEtors of Taxes and Revenue, whose sale-
ri:s tent exceed 2001. a year."
Mr. N. CALVERT disapproved of these in-
:tractions, as calculated to mtrict the exertions of
the Committee of Finance. Circumstanc:s might
occur in the course of their investi/ation, which
• render the instructions pmp:!scd an impedi-
ment to those pursuits for which that Committee
was appointed.

COCHRANE proresci as an amendment
to the motion of the Right Hon. the Chancel.
1.,r of the Exchequer. that the inquiry of the Corn-
ttee of Finance should be forthwith. and that it
old be limited to the places and sinecures at
•-pert held by Members of that Muse and their
..I..diate friends.

ord HENRY PETTY contended, that the or-
' • by which the Committee of Finance was ali-
o •!!.(1. made it imperative on them to enter upon
t.i ilvectigatiots of those offices and salaries to
which the station of the Sight Hon. Gentleman
(Mr. Perecval) could apply. It appeared to him to-
tally nugatory, and by uo means satisfactory to the
noble proposer (Lord Cochrane) of the original in-
soil y.
Mr. WYSE attempted to attribute personal mo-
tives to the Noble Lord, but the call of—Order !
era, I induced him to sit down.
M. WILLVAIN am' CH recommended the
issuers,' of the Order of the Speaker, as the most
efficient method of obtaining the Returns from the
d&fferen. Depar•ments of Office.
The CIIANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER
explained ; Ise said, the House could not
take into its consideration the fate and fortune of
the measure, without observing the manner in
which the Hon. Gentlemen.. who spoke early in the
.1-boa • •

anent they preferred given the consideration to the
Committee of Public Expenditure; but the Mc
mint that they found him accede to their proposal.
they immediately surrendered the princiidt which
they before recommended.
Mr. WHIFIMAD defended the line of con-
do& which he had adopted. The course be pit:toed
was to forward the principle of the Noble L',,,P5
(Lord Cochrane's) Motion, although he conceived
the mode exceptiona'ile. In the Motion before the
House he strongly recognked an anxiety to evade
the direC't questirn. But he app?aled to the clia-
ratter of the proposer of that Motion, to that Houtz..
of which he was a Member, and to that public, to
whom be was an humble s?ivant, whether any thing
in the shape of protraCtion and delay would not
create a feeling abroad dangerous to the State ; in-
asmuch as it tended to deceive those whose reprei•en-
tenets they were, as to the sincerity whichthe House
felt in originating these necessary and imperative
inviries retraft or evade, on spch
would have no other died than that of disgracing
the House in the opinion of the country.
Mr. BANIKES fully proved that it would be im-
possible for the Committee of Finance to proceed
on such diffuse aid m iltifarious obi-as. He
thought the :louse should at least go the length of
providing that Committee with the necessary docu-
ments. in Ireland they had already experienced a
great and reprehensiole delay. At all events, if
the motion was carried. the House would declare
its opinion, and err/Lite its c.harseter from any un-
justified en.ros • meta.
Mr. t- U RWEN spoke strongly against the Mo.
tion of •he C cellor of the Exchterter.
SH • lit ,AN, in an animated manner, called
up in the Riga( Hon. Getlentan (Mr. P.Aceval),
to state seti• t •er it was possible to persevere in his
motion, after the candid exposition given by the
hairma of that Committee ? If so, he would still
he more surmised to End that the House would
destroy its own cbareeter, an 4 disgrace itself in the
public ain'te so, by endeavouring, tinier the most
paltry pretences, not only to overwhelm and owe.-
lay the objett which ad protested to have in view,
but .iduaity to suilicate and strangle it in its ope-
ration. A measure of inquiry is recommended to
ascertain what number of men capable of being in-
fluence t'y the Crown sit within these walls. It
is to asciltain *tether they amount to 100 ; and to
help the public attention. His Majesty's Ministers
imnsedia•el produce a string of nine thousand nine
hundred; and such an inquiry was for the purpose
of Assisting a Comet:intoe of the Hesse in comparing
the amount of the salary with the importance of the
duty executed. He would ask this plain end
question. If the object sincerely was to obtain
information. why resort to expedients which seemed
to prove that it was the wish of the Gentlemen op-
pite. to skulk and shrink from the investigation.
If Conn influence was but small within the House.
surely Ministers ought to appear impatient in prov-
ing it to the world ; whilst by evasynt and probable
concealment, the public must be disgusted with our
scheme. and our delusions. With respea to the
motion of the Bight Ho.r. Gentleman, it gave infor-
M4llOll Whlen could only tend to mislead. The
army was in a certain degree under the influence of
the Crewe. and it wee wed known that the exc. ss
of bounty in rot restr•cti•ig the investigation from
the higher departments of the revenue, was ideal ;
as certainly men, who e mid not be in Parliament,
were not comprehended within the principle of that
measure. w'rich all apmsred to approve.
Mr. BIDDUILIII so •Ite against the Motion.
Mr. WILE!. LACE tn f ',oar of it. Dr. LAU.-
RENCE said, the present And in was to •Ime the
cleft Ana he,abfit, of inqu,r7, in the exuageotts d.s.
cucsion so unr.ecestrrily involved
The SOLICI tOtt.GENEKAL for BCO
LAND dietl rri _as* . 'oteit 1 esciedly in favour of the
Motion propo.e4 by t f.e C.••aneellor of the Exchequer.
Mr 14 EN air M A nTiN supported the Amend-
ment of th- Noble Le (Cochrane).
Mr. ROSE slid. toe Account the Noble lArd
sougit foe, bad been repeilledly laid upon the
table.

Mr. CALCRAF r observed, that the great ob-
ject was to know the amount of the'several emolu-
ments enjoyftd by pehons in those situations. He
thought there was no great difficulty in the matter,
and there were tan ways in which it might be easily
accomplished. the one was, that every Member
might send in a Return of such Places, &c. as he
enjoyed; or there might be a Committee appointed
for that sole purpose The real object was, a Liu
of those Men who were dependent upna the Crown;
be did not know of any thing invidious in this sort
of return, except that the Gentlemen opposite might
feel it a disgrace to hold such grants. The Hon.
Member for Yorkshire (Mr. Wilberforce) had stood
forward in a molt conspicuous manner on this occa-
sion ; he threw his shutid over the Gentlemen oppo-
sit •. as if to protect them from all attacks upon this
suoject ; hut, however he might compliment the
Chancdlor of the Exchequer upon his &verity, he
reqe!ted he could not equally compliment bun upon
his sincerity.
After some explanation by Mr. ROSE, the ques-
tion was loudly called for, and the House divided,
when there appeared

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The Bill fur. Prohibiting the Grant of Ofßces in
Reversion, tcc. went through a C)mmitee, and was
ordered to be taken into further consideration to-
morrow, in order to give Lord Henry Petty au op-
portunity of proposing an intendment relative to
Professorships in Scotland.
Mr. HENRY MAR.PIN gave mice that he
would, on Thui slay neat. move far a I„;st of all
Pensions, dm paid by the Paymaster General of tt.e
Forces, and of other Pensions. not payable out of
the Exchequer, since the year 1803-
Upon reading the Order of the Day for the second
reading of the American Indemnity Sail,
Mr. ROSE said, that there was an understanding
between him and a Nable Lord (flowick) that this
Bill should be now mad a second time. and be de-
bated upon the question fur the Speaker's leaving
the Chair.
The Bill was accordingly read a second time,
and or eyed to be committed to-mon ow.
The bther Orders of the day were then disposed
of. and. at ‘1.4.--T..._l_. •• •• • • •

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THE BRITISH PRESS.

1.00 DON,
WEDNESDAY, JULY S.

ARMISTICE
RETVIFEN RUSSIA, PRi.NSIA, AND FRANCE

Advices were rec-ived, yesterday, from Ham-
burgh, communicating the Imp-runt intel I -
gime, that the French bad entered Tilsit on we
I gth, that the Emperor of Russia sent Gene- al
Bennigren to Bonapaite, to negociate an At misixe.
and that a separate Peace, between our Amei
France, appears likely to take place immediately.
The accounts of a Revolution at Constantinople
are confirmed ; several of the Ministers were mur-
dered. It is said to have been the work of Sebas-
tiani.—The partivilsrs are as follow
BANK% Or TIC ELIE, JUNE 30. Fict p. U.

This m nrsent the French Minister at Hamhargh
has received front Berlin, Irons Glneral Clarke the
follavviag Inert important intelligeitee

" 111111.1111. Joss 28.
I, An Armistice was concluded on the 24.1, be-
tween Ruin* and France. One of the Articles
mentions, that hostilities shall not commence till a
month after notice shall have been given.

" The French and Prussian armies are to con-
clude a separate Armistice within the interval of
the See days following.
“ His Majesty, the Emperor of the French, and
His Majesty the Emperor of Russia, are imme-
diately to nominate Plenipotentiaries, to negaciate
in the great work of peace: an exchange of prise.
nets will take place immediately.
The limits of the French and Russian armies,
during the Armistice, shall be from the Curibch
Had, dreTnalweg of the Nielsen. and from the
left bank of that river u.) to the Mouth of the
Araina at Stakbin, sod pursuing the course of that
river to the Mouth of the Kobe/, following this
rivulet through Romano, Lipsk, Habin, Dolitawo,
Gomadz, and Wyru, up ti the Mouth of the Ro-
bra in the Narew. and from thence ascending the
lett bank of the Nareir by Tylyoczos, Surasz, Na-
rew, to the frontiers of Prussia and Russia.

la The limits in the Frisch Nehrung are to be at

Nyweg."
&mid of a private letter from Altona, June 26,
S:veral Lat,..fieles have reached Fiarnhurgh, from
Vienna, with letters from Christian merchants in
Constantinople, announcing that the blockade, by
the combines British and Russian flue% of t.ke DAV'
&wiles, and the Sea of Marmora, has had such an
effea en the Turkish capital, that the inhabitants,
reduced to a state of absolute famine, have risen
against the Government, murdered their Sovereign
Selira, and his Son, and raised his nephew Mustapha
to the throne. The Jannissaries were the Chief in.

strum:nu its this revolution. The Seraglio has
been forced, and all the women that had influen b
in the G-Jvernment were violated and strangled. In
this number the Empress Dowager Sultaness (Sul-
tana Walida), is included. General Sebastiani,
and moo of cat French OtSeers and Engineers, are
said by some to have been included in the general
proscription. fbe Fungi Coeur Gazelle, t.'l•3tigh
the news was the general talk at Vienna, on the
17th inst. observed the profoundest silence on the
subjetli."

Some of the Ministerial Priors astute their readers
that a the Opposition intended to draw, on Tees-
day night, in the House of Commons, a m Est me-
lancholy piaure of.public affairs, such as would
give confideace to our enemy, and dispose bins to
be more resolute in his effoits to bring this country
upon a deplorable level with all others that have
fallen into his power ; and that the Right Hon.
Gent, man who moved the Standi;:g Order for
the exclusion of strangers, was impressed with the
clinger resulting -irons such a gloomy represen-
tation, and the hope with which it might in-
spire our foreign and domestic enemies."—This
is giving up the question at once, and aduth-
ring that our case is desperate indeed. Other Prints
of the same tribe affea a little more courage, and
venture to assert, that the exclusion %vas as unfor-
tunate for the present Ministers as it was fortunate
for their predecessors. Mr. Met.was, Mr. CANNING,
Mr. Psacavac, and Mr. Witasavoacx, having
made most able speeches." A Ministerial Print
of yesterday says, a Mr. WIL OEN FORCZ strongly
exhorted the Nobility and Gentry of Ireland to use
their exertions to initial and improve the con-
dition of the people of that country, observing, that
it would go further to preserve the security and
peace of that part of the Empire, than any
political measure that could be propused."—
This is not the first time that Mr.Wisasa twice has
used this argument, and perhaps; it the ahle spt echos
delivered by Viscount Hosincx and Sir Joists Sa-

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The dare* QiNdlias#4ocatiarlisestittro al ludwl Nt.
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t4b hir W .11‘111'1/104C1I-eIOASS4.e.Iif 4.10 .1"
131-toi.)11. 17'40 MO !Vent IA!. EINAi.IOIII.
.that tree 'valued. iron firreo• -4
an * • drop

of ink in pen; b. it sly lr ve retolle i• f !hat
the 1)o:t ),•, • .ea aeltettir th...eff•zt of
graotio‘z the .1a 'al.. • ? •risa•eredot :A! • e audl-.ls parry
deprecated it of th ug,s. " bees's* it w
take the Cath lics erttiroy ~ut of their ha" '
erhorration to the Nobility and Gen.ry of e-
hod, to improve the conk on o' if pelplT'. is a
political receipt to cure alt the co-tsp/aVnts of tint
enu"try, is cgs illy fallationt. It is an 4•l•lfni-nt
threetly .he II lion, bet•atist the U.s. ea,h
renderel nit cure Tess praaiea'sle. The Pe .;de of
Ireland were told, tha! by Os • Uni•ns VielYinte4usts
would become great i n renal concerts, a : f o4le is
of great imperial deli .er .n. Mr. Ws urine-
coact sow says, that re Ire, is more properly
in the tun Is of their resident ti 'odor and G.• it ;
and if he he carrel, the I • i,.t ere left to cansellale,
that the boasted virtues of tb. we'reronly a pre-
tence to transport their Parliament out qt 41.4 r •••-niCr
fly. leiides, if the Casolic Qoerinn was imp
it does not tallow that there ;trek not other **Age

which the L gislatore rettit, with proprie-y, for
the henes: of Ireland ; and yet. with the czetlitiow of
Sir J Ni.wroar's Cora Intercourse Bill, ea: a single
a.a of any rnagnitnie has been done in the title st,?rit
of the Union, since the accetnplishmeni of that t 044.
sure. rt. • Ministerial Pi int. having given Wit..
ot a r ouc artuto .nt again -t Catholic Qaen: ions
we have c,nlv tared it only fair to remind nit iesders
of Sir JCPs4N vtwroar'► answe-. They also extol
the impassive answer of Mr. Nit taus to Mr° Ws tre
•29LAD ; but when it if consiti .reri th .t Ir. Klit s‘s

isa very yiturg rntn, and --. sia rnooths a Me.W-ser
of ?arii4rnent, the pet‘t - will be ail's, to estinlate the
cAniour of the w assert, that the hiftwrere lost
mire dial their oppo tents by the suppression of the
debate on blondAy night.

Lord CATIKAUT and mita sailed Ms may,
from Yarmouth, for '`"3lsinvd.

The ay& frigate. her R. 3yal Wetness the
Duchess of BaUN4W: .:K. only trviving sister of ~or
rest Gracious Kiwi, on bo.rd, arrived on M isrs
at four o'cloc!:, p s.. Of Cfravesenti. Her Rev at
Hsi:amass land-.I yesterday months!. at ere ett'acks
and went immediately to the N-w rare: n, where
every preparation was made for her • . Th.
Y,3lantetr Arsdlat y.. and the-.l.aght 4n,./ y go,
teers, were out, to chew Ali po,si'ale repssia t, her
RoYaL 111011111111 L The gone. frown the lin-s at
Gravesend. and also at rilhary Fort, were fired in
honour of the occasion. The Cbde :waned her
yards, and saluted. The Mayor and Corpora.ion
received her Ro•ist. Hum. en with all due flrm.
and eagerly te;:iicd th-ir repel to this augrast
rumness. who see-ne.! to be deeply selsihli at :hese
jeer-es/train's; of regard. Her !Lovas. H 'QUOIN
quitte the place in the Pnneess. of Watts's car..
the, with bee attendants. for Blackheath.

His M %Airy is ezosSed in town, this day, to
hold a Court at the Queen's Palace.
Yesterday. the LORD Vlarna ordered the price •
of bread to be continued at 1141. the Quartern
A Common Council will be held oa Friday, for
the dispatch of public business.
I'he introdigtion of pure and salutary Gas
Lights seernd at last to hart been taboo up by teen
who must prove an honour to any age, country, or
inn. We record wit's p!eA•tti thy Doke of
ARNDT., Bishop of Ltanntrr. Viscount Au .nta.
Earl of WAIINICE, Right HOD. Xist.t•tsio,
Adsni•2l GA RON Si, KIM GOO. CA iti.stotr. Bar to
WOLIRR ; Sirs C. Bales. W. Posron. M
•is Counsellor Corer; 1/7.vagris es, COCItERRI L,
Tuoursom, To a rots. W 41114 krona, Nu a La:- and
G•at •• r. gurs. J.• Jars Jansen. Gt. •en ANT,
TSKRICIL &C & . ; names which we havt• noticed
in a list of several hundred; ttf the Nobility. Grath,
Cletey. Merchants, Beakers, and respeftable
Tradesmen.

A Letter from St. Helena, d tied April 2s, says—
The Expedition sa;led from the Cape of Good
Hope on the 7th inst It was considered as certa;n
we were grl'a inn -sae Indian seas, and the opi-
nions 11'21e 1146-.0.1. as .0 C. IT final dortination. wbe-
char Moonlit, th.• Isle of Flint**, or Lima ; Ylanilla
wa; snort generally belie-et, set 1 Isle of France is
strongly fortified, and even the F-enc' shins are ob-
lit:ed to be towed. int," he ho; hour t out at ;a
events, the force u- ter General eraocurd et Al
not take it. The Lie;ttenai.ts ^f Eh- . ••• tr
thonght we we-e going east ahem to L
would be along .r voyage than rocnsi Cop- ; : ;n,
but a much safer one ; and it sr:u'..! :se as.
possible to attempt going r‘a.nd Cave it,we for
them three months. Yen may ru.rrne. we wane
all much surprised when the Ad,tiral shved
his coarse for Qf. Helens, wnere w • artieer on
the Slid instate, end win I. s'e it #o4' CI" rain
on Sunday neat ; but for went pi ice erg o e
knows. Our coining here from I now sur-
prises every one, and a report is in eirc ;that., Mat
th,• F.xpedition is broken up, and Nat a ;at of
the tr-ops sr- suing the West Ino•re, a• J the
rent tinder to use Med;ter-rn.ao Fr... th.- ••t se
we have steered, one would be inelf...4 to Aft•
destination wee' cl.itc red ; bu, IA .1 t'.. o let
think we 'will see . its Arm ;
fours that sailed !e.t.a E ,wl.rd sit: , e• to,
ed. tad Ad•ulfai Mart has lanst..l hi, d.
boorJ the. Peivatteasar. t en' .

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