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Eby„ 16, peal sl6.* meet ho hie Oppalias to ISA
swam" "meld leave the p n.peetl.s jam as 001 4
se twee. To the ginie.ral qeeetitse brim opposed ow prin-
ciple. Nor you ad...sired Catholic Clesemenere to sit in
Paellsespol, yea eel recto& Ciltbelic Peers, and to
tow he should have still greeter objertious then to
the firmer. /he Hoiseria Peers was ts pea ieposltury of
the reggae and laws of the toiletry, sod were intlmetely
led nth the Chinch, mod ole that aerosol the *Amis.
Cies of (*billy Peers would be eitettaely
ails the iskret of iterveqies be wished lib say one word.
isast year a 11111%10 been brought late the House of coffl•
imam eostaishig ...thrill's, sod an importe•t did they up.
perer,ebet when the Bill no. divided, the oar containing
ameasiors, sad the other eeentrities, it was agreed that they
&read proceed pun passe, mod that see should not pass
ritbeet the ether. He world sob their Lordships theta bee
'bey could cosiest le rem ibis Bill overhand etseerwies, if acc-
ess, were eereeeery; sad if they neglected them now. Ise*
ieeld they &mewl them on a friar. occasion ?—(Hear,
'hear)—He I soother elajeetioe to this measure, which
le se thii i—lf the Bill were collard to England alone, big
'objeclions shout,' he ineeperable d bat there was smother
emineeied with this subject—be meant the peculiar
eietialbe of leelestis The Bill for Catholic Emeiteipetiiiie
limeys errrineted from a Petitions presented from Ireland,
led a Noble Lord opposite (Lord Duaostkimore) generally
bad the care of the question Is that Holm , as; the ma.e
4 the population being Catboat*, it wee eneoldered desirable
to get rid of the diffirelty Bet the present Rill will not give
an advaetage to a single Irish subject ; is its Imesediale ope-
ration it would apply slime to English Peers. Eveatually it
might reefers hevietit Noonan Irish Peer, bet the pewspeet was
remote mid doubtful ; and if the Irish endue did variedly
halt fur elltenripstion, and be believed that feeling wee very
nteeh ifeereated, to the it woold be me advastlage, but a
positive evil. If it were to Is eoesidered • step to the
pave meow., lben it toiler be bewelle,sl ; but it wowld
'be as.. 104111I0g to the Cal holies geeerelly, if she 'desolate
was to bte coati's's, to the Peers, veal ant 'steed to thee.
Pat be ha another objection, foe be considered that the
gassiegteg this Bill *veld not teed to the credit. or tellOollf
J the Peers themselves, while It would be hostile ab the feeling
of orrery free Goseromear. He did sot mesa 1.. say that be.
seam pHs have granted one eseetesino, Sot must grant is.
WSW.' tie klieg, tile, might take their stead wherever they
pleased; Hwy might stop al theelecirre franchise, at venlig(
of stets is the Legislature er so the Council.
Brat ho could not reeeetve bow they were to draw the d.e.
Bodies het urea the Lewes sod Cowman. He bad beets
taighlts litre that timegh the pooseesioas of urns might
bedilrerent, yet their rights/were the same; end that she
rigid of the poor matt Infthip cotters was just as strong as
of of any Lord* ope to their castles, and that that
was the caret foundation for the stability of the throne;
sod attiag• or that principle, be thought' ihe right of
the Cireembeer to be sleeted was jest as strong ea that
4 the Peer to sit. He appe•lat to He judgment of their
Lesehhips,•heiber any thing assist be go ravidions, su moo.
Wises so tie propesitioe which bad bete made. It was

voila et length do it yid. !Me "USW- t or setting the great
locution at reel. To ',jut this mowers with the informs-
hoe that they new possessed of the true nature of those
wrong& is which the restrietioes were originally fooaded,
would he to gay to 'befit noble individuals mourned, "True,
yep were oijostly deprived of your fie lte; we delve! Om
Perjuries of Tiles Oates, we abhor the Popish Plot, we
ukases/ledge the provmdings founded on It to he toque ;
bet we will holitieie to keep them is force, beams, we were
not the original Awl thee would they proceed to
drag forth Acts of former Parliaments, and to quote the
tentatto wowed dolt adorned the history of the country,
in jsietilleatioo of these restrictions. Toes Oates, and
those who believed him, were indeed the 'oboes of
the injustice; Lord Abafteshory, and the other illestrioes
name", that adorned the lierolutiosi, had continued it;
hot their Lordships should remember that if they re-
jected this messore, frum that day forward. not Tilts Oates
sad his associates, not Lord Shaftesbury and the authors of
the Revolution, but the present House of Lords, would be
regarded as the of that injustice which they perpe-
tuated and adopted as their own. The Nohle Earl said he
would dismiss from hu memory Tito Oates and his din.
ies; bet the motion of the Revolution, and the
great eisaravers who then existed, adopted the restric-
tions as sereassry, and they were the persons whose mo-
tives aid trooriseet their Lordships were to look to. He
(Lord Greaville) said so too. He did out mean to dia.
perste the coadoet sod motives of these persons, to whom
we owed what liberties we enjoyed ; but be most say, that if
they looked to that painful period, their Lordship. would
Rol that the danger against which they had to provide did
-aft arise from the Cathulie Peers, iir any plots ou their part
ageism this throne •r the Government. There was indeed a
Popish Piot, but it was sot a plot of the Catholic Peers
against the Plate. bet of • Catholic heir lathe Crown. against
the Protestant ei legion awl the liberties of the country. The
istasile experience of our history, from the reign of fiery to the
melloAClmeliso it. *tweed, that sot soy the smaller, twitch. of
41Asgor arose IMO that law ff Elizabeth which continued to
C•ol.iir Peeve the right which they before possessed of*.
hog in thee House; and no security whatever to the Consti-
tution sod liberiter of the country was obtained by the taw
that was palmed to demise them of that right; nor or,*
there the lewd shadow of proof to the history of the use of
all conduct, ow the part of the periwigs arhjeet le the
pressrooms that arose out of the Popish Plot, to jag.
Dry the measures Mai were directed against them.
To motored fur the conoiousweer of securities adopted In
HMOs of minfission and alarm, should be continued whoa
those slams had subsided, because the danger, that seers
then apprehended joatifii il their adoptions, was 111 Omani u
to any that Uvulae the Clip of London wee formerly our.
rounded with • high wall, wed other places in the kiagdoes
Were raffled to peewee them Gone the attacks of an mammy,
it was operostoy now, iu • period of peofonosi peace, to
change the foie of the rouotry into that of as armed
camp. If it were argued that danger still existed, or West
be apperheoded,he had a right to sat where it was to befound,
and i• who shape it was to be detected? And if those who

Ohs pride of the *visionary, that while to.ey had privileges raised that arguimoot faded to define the precise *store of
Ile *hod, ;hey osijoyed them with Jolter, to se man. He Ibe dasger %hick they feared, he felt hiesorlf bowed, Sot as
mosecised that the Howes of Lent, was that breath of the • saner of expediency, bet of retributive jenny?, to restore
ligiskisve from whence the oranges. ateachinent to the this restrietios. He naked, what part of the tillehhttsre adopted
Established Church nom "everted. The Notate Earl (Grey) at the period of the Iteiroluitua were to hr cusaidered as
had mid chat he had I right to pees the Bill even if It went 'mammal for the pewee:hos of the faNdamemil liberties of
cm further; hut if he did, it did appear to him that it the e..unfry, and what part only as providing against a tem.
would he. the mist tovidsoos act that could be proposed, pinery dander? Looking at the argument of the N ble and
sad perniscrine of mere digssonyneorpo steno had before ex- Leas-mid Lund (the Lonl Chaseellur) us that point is
Wed. 1. milted loathing—it left the whole quertiow °pre— well founded, he must hue . rive* to oppose every one
it drew so odiossilistiortionleetworeen the Peers and the Corn of the Acts fur the, removal of restrictions paned to the
Mahn, which it would be impossible to maintain, and it reties of the late beeereleel Swerreige. If their Lard.
maisimard, would plaice the Peerage tit a condition Is which ships would look at the measure of that
,night as *se of re.
on maw costa wish to See them. He thereficee celled opus tributen justice, he would odours le predict that 'ii dodger
those oho om only joined with him in opposing Catholic whatever would arise to the country frosts its adoption. If
ceseessioek, but aba were habitually its advocates, to they rejected it 6001 the flat of its leader( to the gesmil
oppose the menthe Rill. They should loot at the goestios vicunas., they would *occlude six English Peers from their
fairly, seed Arm dewmpleie whether Catholers should have • rights, sot because the exclusion was jest, but because
oboe is the legolature ; but see* 11111., objeatieeelliedhse those would be hampered in motomeut, who. if lime
that, to hi. esiod, would he to adasit the Penighailidellidde Peers were admitted, sosslit to keep oat others, oboe,
the Cosonniora --(Cheers) for his own part, he sew no reason for Exclisdiss.
Lad GRENVILLE spit addressed the House. IV= He had sot intended leg address say observations to thew
k leftist the woe nee-nary fur Mtn to m•ken few Lordships go this etessioag bet he had not been able to sit
*wises um aft*w tof the treend spine which b a Mlle sileht whets he heeled argued, on the grimed of stspedseacy,
Irked had d his uovosilloste He til!!tot sp•Wliose a measure *kWh he cee'sidered as a smossureajositee,a goes.
.0"4 01**11"0"catell liteSrliyie.l.eseatiess, to sap mime time of property, privilege,. sod hie Owlets to be removed,
was His advastage of the prettiest to 444444 . R. IRWIN whirls hod Woo wroogfully takesawso, sad which could so
answer that lee was ose of ;I ow who hod been never hack- loser be withheld without tujerdlee.—(Repesteet cheers.)
ward, perb•p• olio. might thlok a billy Lou forward In ad- Lord REDESDA LE Insietaitied that Parliareelat bad
vomiting Caebolic cos minions, mad he should say, that Ms the same right to 'triode Catholics from sitting in that
stesaere miuld roan the gicatest of all hearths, the House to exercise their fairelmus as Peen, as tt had to
bead( of dm, justice—(Chiair.)--ao object is his maims. eat lode them from the House of Cumen..a., or the secret-
ties which set at %might all cussideratiows of expedieuey. sous to the throne. Th. very Bill before their Lordalcipa
He omelet ear, "B- 'too sod fear got." If it were true that coutaened mu oath of •Ilegisuce and abjuration, the takiwe
in Ibis Bill the• resters of six indimalsak ware reortrued, if of which was to be the sooditems of the sdammitio of thence
the tight. of ...en hut one individual, and he of the lowest persons to sesta to that Houk. Bat bow were choir
instead of thelogh. at laws in the community were concerned Lordship. to know whether Catholic Peers could subscribe
is it, he nhoield say that their Lordships sere out at liberty to that oath? If Parliament hail no right to continue
In entertain all 'hoar quesii.ius of espedlency. He cocci. the 'Minims restriction, neither could it have the sight to
Sued it os a Ivies - of strict dist, thanes jostler; one prescribe that oath, which might equally Ipecac as •s
on which their Lordships wets called upon to pronounce, emission. It was therefore clearly not a ouestuen of right,
sot is their Irgis aloe lest in their judicial capacity. It was but simply °ago( expediewcy at all timer. While there was a
a emotion, late-time they would restore a remits sourer Protiotoet succession to be usdiet•tned, it was urn-matey that
of British Peers to the ex...dem and •enjoymout of the legislature should he Protemut. The tendency of the
those rights which she, totem ited by their birth. He present censure would be, to macaw! a Lag, who was ne.
held that their Loretahips were bound to restore to those ressmily a Prolesteist, with Catholic Cososellors, and • Par.
perms the rights of which all men he believed world lisment partially Catholic. He coutend. d that it could not be
admit that they had bees deprived, not out, sojostly, hot adopted without danger to the Prolestast Eatablialiserst,
by the most scand•lowei and iumoitous means that ever were paemeolaily in Ireland. It was • proposal to Pediment to
practised. Having been demised of those rights wader the do that which James 11. had attempted In do by his own
most false, major% and seanehluus presences, it woofer their power, mid which, if be had succeeded in effecting, he might
Lonhihips to judge Whether they should sow he restored to have remained on the Reroute of thte country till hat death.
chefs!l onj..7roent or on,. rights. II one argued that the I Lord HOLLAND having caused the Sleuthing Order,
law bad nut deprived them of their rights as Peers, but had No. 71, tp ha read, which directed, that so oath should be
roily sioseamt so the privilege of silting in Parliament the Imposed by any Bill ur otherwise, the eefusal to take which
cooditsua of plying with certain test.; sad the Frio- should disqualify say Peer to sit to Partismeut, proceeded
Mole oe which these teats *err now defended, was, that to say, the reading of that Biandiag ceder placed the goes.
memos elahoial to set is their Lordshime House ought Ms on it its true foutiog ; which was, whether the time was
to be subject to the same tests as the Comm...us. But stow tom at which it would he safe and popper for their
wso peeked, well !noes that besides the feet In Lordships to realm to the Catholic Peers the free sancise of
mollies, there were a variety of other causes of domes- their undoubted night, of which they had bees unjustly
hereto/a for mats is dm Common., which so mks had deprived is violation of that Staudiug Order. It was the
e'er thought of peoposing to extend to that Hume. It undoubted right of every Peer to sit and vat ha Par-
was no port of the fondamentsl law of the country—it was lialmeel without any oath ; and that regulation im-
sot the priterip'e of the Cussiiistion—it was net the posiug the teal was as exception sad chtoarture from
principle of the I.golatiim of this country to adopt .weep. the Comitutims, justifiable only by expediency, which
lag oplations of Oast water,. On the contrary, Illost was to be proved by Moor who advocated arch restraints.
of those dangerous and fallacious notions which were Now It was said if they pissed this Bill, they would creole Pa
ruing pohatehuima of the public mad, arose out of the mos, anomaly. An anomaly ! In what' lu the- system of our
ahrueet, sal peepomeroos attempt to regulate dl the varied relive.' sod political 'actuation? le that which was a
sod complicated ',knots of this vast tommitoity by soda chaos of anomalies throughout The whale system of re-
gesieral and sweeping in/Worcs. He did sot colleens limners legislative in the three kisigdolltee was out vast
that is sopporitog this Bell, he was board to stew what anomaly; aud were their Lottleelieps to be deterred frost
he should wither aiteropt, sot jaded was ante Miro, us ar of junto, by the feat of adding to the numbs, the
whether ibis Imams poised or nut, why they should hiding seesemity that might be created by this Bill?
encomia* eve o far one year longer the general reetrictions But this seminal, that was so ankh deprecated, was one that
um the great body at the catholic.. Hurl stress bad ben had Meted, carted; it was one of the ancient law, sod there.
lid upon the mho ace of may securities Irons the pemeut Bill; fore, he should have motecered, is some degree entitled to
it seemed sa viii was cousidered that there was some wood. r the Noble and Learned Lord's respect. Ode great objection
fal property in the abstract same of security, apart from that had beets urged was' that the was attended with
the clause's against which it was professedly intended to so securities; and the Noble and Leotard Lord (the Lord
prmide. Rut every hear of consideration that was be- Chsoceltur) said it was the first measure of the sort that heel
stowed our the sulijeet, the dangers themselves stewed to ever bees prnposed without them But be(Loed H.) himself,
Me lees; and such was the cheese in his opinions on M 111111,soun after the Noble nod Learned Lord mime tato
that point, which had bees brueghl about by the wonder. that House, moved to refer the Act of 30 Charles 11. and
111 revolistion of events that had occurred within • few years, the Act of 1 William and Mary, for aliening the oath, to a
that if the Bill of last year bad maw up to their Lordships Custnottre,audou Remoteness then sande at all of securities.
without securities, he obutalig have raised his voice in • That snatiou was met, nut by • diiect negative, but with lb*
esteem esilemroon to dissuade their Lordships from adding previous question. Why did not the Nubs and hearted Lord,
statilleat. it. Bet though he himself rtgaided seesnettes as on that occasion, object to such a 01040 of disposing of the
aoseeelaary, yet Meowing the expeditious which prevailed manes, which kit open for future discussion a question,
in the minds of the p sole of the-country is that reeo.ect, and which, aCetardiejt to his packet doctrine, would Diet-
a+, great object of the =caviare bike conciliation sad throw the whole of the laws and liberties of the hisgdons
salon, if that obj• el could to Ely way be forwarded by such But he (Lord Holland) never did set any value cm semsesties;
"'clothe; he should have bees sorry that the want of them red he had only agreed to them, Is say cam, as the price to
leOlild beer stood in she way of tasking that which was • be paid fur a more important object. Queen Elizateelh re.
catlaseire.f mamma to one party, taallihale to the con- jetted tbe ides of sink securities; and Henry VIII. who
Wooer sad irmaquitllty of the olio,. If there were any of destroyed the Pope* supreme*, is this country, had
their Lordshire who thought it possible that it might ulti- tamer thought of 'onetime mach se oath as was stow required.
maltly tee found accessary to pass this measure, yet heal- The standing order, which had just bees read, was nitro-
nod at tie remit swat from the fear of its leading to deco.' by that Lord Shaftesbury *Mao memo had bees men.
the whole gurstios, be begged to mule them, that where stowed en the other side ; and when he afterwards supported
stir flyethtlill of the measure was so molars,. where its the Bill imposing the test, and was asked how he could de
Justice and policy was so mildew, they had bet one course so in mulattos of him owo order, he defended binriself by
ti pursue—to look the geestion at once fairly is the face; noise, " :eyes posteriori, prioces abrogant," later laws
fie ,f they omitted to pass this measure now, every day, abnegate (moire ones. The danger which was thew to be
"117 boat of delay world increase the difficulty, sod they guarded egotist was that of a Popish successor; Led *bee