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Ameica towards gag-
- ----_ -tight Him. Gentleman
eigthse prirtiality of America to-
• the coutending parties
__a (tithed' wan partial to their antis-
waist. Such was the ease too in die time id Gen.
Waehingtou. If our statesmen had been wise, the
Embargo would have been operative towards
France, mat to this country ; add the emisequence
of that would hare beim, that Aiiierica would have
been nu Ally of Enghead in the srent war in which
we are engeged. America has of late total you that
although she considered your Orders an insult, yet
she was remade to take oil her Emburgo, prosided
you were ready to revoke them. She told France
the same thing, and therefore the wise arid magna-
nimous conduct of England would have here to
retrace her steps so early us the 'nook of February,'
whim Mr. Pinkney made that commonteation,—
America being aware that England was the more
powerful, shewed that she was More partial to Eng-
land than to France. In God's mine, what
murders wale ? They desire America to state the
groontis on which they would shake kends* ith them.
Was this sufficient ? 'No; the terms Were no Sooner
stated, than they demand theiuterferenee of Ame-
rica with a third party, over whom they had no
totalled. They desired America to make the Em-
peror of Fmaice repeal the Berliii'Deeee ; a De-
cree whir/ithey had formerly declared 'to be broken
up into fruginents, and to be utterly harmless said
eoutemptible (Load cries of Hear ! Atari ! hear !)
'Good God ! I hope that inch a policy as this Will
he utterly forgotten ; for if these Ministers wish
their names to descend to posterity as able and re-
nowned Statesmen, such a conduct as this would
skew them to have built their fauna on brittle
;pounds, and that their nausea were only tram-
initted as models of arrogance, imbecility, and paw.
litical folly. (Hear hear ! hear !) Cau they
suppose that America could march an army or
send a fleet to force Bonepaite to comply with their
request; the matter was'quite impossible. Amelica
could do nothiug ; yet Ministers have beet' so ab-
surd as to state the compliance with in im-
possibility, as the only terms upon which they
would remain at peace with her."— The
pourable Gentleman then proceeded to read va-
rious passages from the Correspondence upon
the table, in order to 'dhow that America had
been hardly dealt with ; and used arguureets
to Ace. that Ministers were afraid they could nut
otherwise secure a monopoly of commerce ; and
that, unless the Berlin Decree were revoked,
smuggling would go un with great ease, so as to
destroy the legitimate trade. They had had every
opportunity of at amity with America, even
so as to have her as an ally egatest our enetny.—
Bet it iipp.terd, when the Correspendence took
placc nit:, Mr. Pinkney, it was at a nhomesit 'of
etnltatron fur Ministers. The Spaniards had sac.:
ceeded beyond all expectation. and therefore
nothing less would satisfy the Itigit Hon. Gengos
men opposite but the nio•L extravagaut acid ab-
•auril demands. lis his tier 4 loam that occasioN
us in has 'peaches in the Idolise, there was 1100Sillg
but toad. vapour and wind. That Hight Hoir.
Nentliman hint camplained of the tone of Mr.
Moore-. :although he had no occasion to do so.
,rl not help thinking hisu like .Sir Anthony
sllivilaie in the hey, who could not visitors. any one
to be in a InOl,loll He arKned
that their conduct to.verals America would not only
prove moat injurious to (lie tiade of this coun-
try, but also most injurious to our American
possessions end our %Vest India 'enloniea. Ile
indeed outlet stood, that although Ministers
were proud of their Orders in Council, and
hail !masted of their having been successfulty exe-
enter!, yet they had not actually been put into exe-
eirtion. Ile had heard a report this day, even riuce
lie Caine into the House, that the Right
Gentleman nopeeite (Mr. Caushing) Wits himself
intending to bring forward some prommition ho
the purpose of conciliating Anaericu. Were lie to
by u,sured of that, he would PO rejoice upon
the occasion, that he would throw hill his books
and paper, into the tire, and merely conclude with
sayisig, for Goan, sake snake peace with Americas!
It was sulfitient for ris,if Yr_ costal mein our pre-
sent possessinas, witheut aiming at extending
It lie understood, that 11,000 men had
I been pent nut to capture 31urtiiaiiphe lint it hail
hirer,' out only to lie as kind of reconnoitring
'Holy from Canada, fur they hail returned without
chisititig any object. He credit see sin benefit
likely to urise simell ran vs.,pielition, for it ap-
pear. d to be only nee of those ecognizances which
the Itight Ilonothr.i`::ii Gentleman formerly sent
out to reconnoitre F. r ellen it was found to
be AO surrounded with fei tresses that it we.
itupow-
siblc to take it.—The i•:iclh were now in posses-
sion rif Ferro!, anal they had foamd there this
leer thus thirty-six ships a i war. Did Ministers
expert that they should Ix able to bring hack one
ship from Spain, or did the: expect to destroy the
arsenals of America? They nail now the navies of
France, Spain, Denmark. and Holland.
:against therm, and was it not of the utmost come.
qtreace for them to procure an ally in America
Bonisparte did not emit peace to recruit his navy;
and we ought to recellect 'that the greatness of
11-itain was only factitious, fair we could not exist
without our commerce. All that Ministers had
now to do to avert those calamities which were
impending, was to rescind their Orders in
Council, and then the Embargo would be taken
oft. Ile wile aware diet he wet lint treating
of a popular snhject, as the Americans were
not in general liked thrmighout the country ; but
stilt there were many great men had been produced
amongst them. Their tiendship was not to be
dispiseil. General ‘Vashitigton and Dr. Frank-
lin were individuals most worthy of rernembrauce.
lie emielieled lay reedilig plait of the valedictory
iriblreei of IVashington to this Americans, in
his alyaig moments; it breathed tire spirit of
universe, benevolence. peeve and harmony towards
all 'edifies, mid expressed a hoot but this irountry
would imitate such a worthy example. Ile then
moved "Ass humble Addresi to His Majesty, repre-
senting the various termer issued by the enemy
against neutruls,contrary to the usii;:,c of natimis,the
Orders in Council to which they had given rise, on
the purl of this vountrvoiel the embargo ofA merles.
by which our commerce had been impeded ; also
the various conimuiliea7ions that bid been made;
stating our hope that au amicable iatesitosum

might yet be renewed with Atneries, and praying
that His Majesty would be pbesisod to adopt, with-
out delay, such meesures as height best tend to re-
establish that commercial airtftrittadly intercourse
with the Ussiteil States, that had bets so irregularly
broken."
Mr. STEPUCNS acknowledged the difficulty and
disadviantege teeter which lie laboured, in rising
I. answer the argument's of the Hounuruble Gen-
tlentau who had just sat down ; such was the
eloquence, with which they were enforced ; still,
however, he could nut resist the teal that
prompted him to undertake it. There were many
arguments and practical conclusious, in the course
of that hiir mid eloquent *perch, front which lw
differed, yet there were alas made points that had
his entire assent. lie wormed a itb his whole heart
to the general cibservaionv quoted Irma so respecta-
ble a source as IVashitigtott ; they were such as be-
came a great motion to adopt. The Hon. Gentle-
man had appealed to moralists at the conclusion of
his address; he (Mr. Stephens) hoped that the ap-
peal was generally directed, 'that it extended to all
that !louse; for his part lie was of opinion,
that there was not au iuslividual present alio del
not appreciate; in its just degree. the tipplwation cif
moral principles to the conduct of states ; who did
lint Venerate those exalted rules of action, dictate“
by virtue; and if lie failed in his application atheist,
it was not wilfully, but because his judgment had
been deficient. The Hoeourable Gentleman
hail expressed a wish, that he should not lie con-
sidered as hurls:min sentiments end inchila-
timis hostile to his country, merely because he
liail mlvoeuted the cause of another coun-
try, when his country was dearly in the wrong.
lie assured hem that his conduct should inert iio•
such 'illiberal construction from hint; on the eon-
tniry, be bail the homage of his heart, fur tlw sin-
cere said panly way in which lir had come forward.
and he was certain that there wits not in the coma-
try au heart snore truly British than that of the
Han. • Goutlemen who had proposed the inution
that night; nor ass there one more worthy, or, hey
was sure, more willing, to be a leader against the;
enemy, if occasion required. When he contem-
plated the talents and principles of the non. Geuee
demise as well as those of a Noble Lord whohad
proposed a similar measure in the Upper Reuse;
whom he might well pronounce to be au ornament
to the aristocracy ; when he cuusidered the talents
and principles of both, he could tint avoid regret-
ting the circumstance of his differing from -them
upou that or any other question. it disci been as-
serted that night, that there were persons. in this
country who wished for a war with America. lie
was sorry the such a sentiment had fallen ; it was
calculated to produce effect* in America which lie
was.ceftaist were not iuteirded, surd lie could not
believe that there was such a monster in the House
Us a man who wialied for war. He regretted the
misfortune of a war with that country as much as
the lion. Gentleman did; but that country had
done as much against this by the embargo as she
could possibly do by a war. He believed that no
event could be more grateful and acceptable to the
enemy. than that of seeing us driven to the neces-
sity of retracting our measures towards America;
it would be more grateful to him than any ad-
vantage% obtained by his arms. He had already
subverted thrones and ancient dynasties ; lie fear-
ed be might add, he was about to accomplish a
triemph over the weer palriw itself;' but be
hail not yet, nor he hoped ever would obtain
a victory over the sentiment* and the honour of
England. If in popular assemblies, if in America,
ruled by a popular Government, there could exist
a feeling amicable to Freud' tyranny, it would al-
most furnish an excuse for the destruction of such
Goverinneitts, that could be deluded with a friend-
ship so hostile to their true interests. and so oppn.
site to their ruling principle. The lion. Gent. had
talked of a point of humour. which Ise represented
as the grimed of diiblesice between this countty and
America; he (Mr. Stephens) would be willing to
yield much, lie would practically 3 irld much of the
India in contention, tier the purpose of promoting
the ends of peace. At the same time it could not
lie said, that we now bad u threat banging over our
heads ; the experiment had been tried, it a as put
in force against us. The lion. Gentleinau seemed
to think that it was a point of false honour for
which this Covernment was contending ; in that
. he could not agree ; lie was willing, howev,r, us he
had already ataterl.to)ield something. t hough not as
much' as the Hun. Gentleman ; the' Hoe. Gent.
would give them dininonds for the purpose of echo-
ciliation, because bethought them coulee fries and
pebbles ; but lie (Mr. S.) would give them a por-
tion of the same. under a due impression of their
volute. On other questions the House was called
upon to decide brtere the necessary papers were
laid before the House; in this instance the avers-
.:try papers were long before them, though the
Flom Gentleman did not take the trouble of as-
sisting himself by an appeal to their contents. It
' seemed as if it were the system of the opposite side
to reject lamination altogether, and stand upon the
ground of their own views end tHeir own surmises ;
information to them was what mind was_ to a
balloon, taken in to be thrown out again, that the
matinee might ascend without obstruction ; they
were sometimes in such haste that they would limit
before the hounds, and always had an objection to
the incumbratice or any iuformation which might
make against the cease they wished to he sue.
cessful. With respect to the prophecies to uhich
the Hon. Gentlionnii had alluded, he %ionid offer a
few words ; sonic of them must have hers inside in
his abet-ewe, for lie did not bear theta, nor if lie
had licard than, would he have approved. With
respect to the prophecy that said our tied, would
lie served he the ()niers in Council, he considered
it true. The Honourable imitlenstin hod stated
that the Berlin Decrees were no itijury to oar
ore, but that was nut the case ; our com-
merce had experienced the most material injury
from them, as would easily appear limn a whitener
In inicontradieted ttsimony, to which he hegged to
call their attention. (Here the Heim Member read
seventh extracts trout this printed minutes, the ten-
dency of which was to prove that the commerce of
the country was asaterially injured before the pas.
sing ofthe Orders in Council, and that the injury way
attributable to the Berlin Decrees.) He thought i t of
the best importauce that this point ehoold be esta-
blished, as intieh nsisreprelentatibis hid gone abreact;
misrepresentatiow so gross, and so confklent, as to

render an appeal to antitorities, oven oft a anliect
so clear in itself, necessary moral indispensable. The
Hon. Gentleman had :mill. r:iiit the trade of Eng-
land did not ,eutfer crt.,ta ilit..t. Decrees, 110:4It its
the single case of the flurewn ; but the fart was,
that the moment the Deerve.sfrosiontoied, the iti-
suratice between this country sod A incrita was mired
ion ruin :Neal to or chore' 5b per tent. and Gout 3t,
toll par Cent. tivas'gldest *here tittly4 or 5 'eyed
to be allowed bilbre. Here was • couvitscilig
proof that our comm.-me had received. a fitful
check previous to the passiag of the Orders io
Conticil. In addition to this, he could state,
that, from the, Ist el September to the 30th of
October, no Ices than sixty-rive shim head rchnid-
ed their cstrgoes. %Vail city farther proof net:weary
to establish the tuelaiselioly truth that oar %note
was laid prostnite by the Merlin Decrees, and el.
fectuolly obstructed before the adoption of the
Orders in Council ! 'lt might appear la sonar, that
lie had occupied too touch time Oh filar point to
1 which lie haul applied himself, 'but it was Pe•esseti-
' tint to the question before the House, and was
likely to produce. and had pnsikvesl, such nu cf.
feet upon the tips Mons null the policy of Amerief,
Out lie thotiAlit it of the greatest cinisequeore
to dwell upon it; lie atutiel, tharefenr, be*
leave to notice a peiedical publication of groat
notoriety and character, in which the priutiple was
asserted, that thetewas ao interruption to the trade
of neuiral vissels, until the Orders in Coutied.took
place, in obit+ it was also avowed, Out until that
monterat the insurance was -riot "mimed. Those
stateinents, so contrary to the tnitb, bad gene
forth in a publication known to be. foirouroble to the
other side of the Rune, and they Intel mode.tierir
way to America, and Made their impreesion. The
publicatien to'whlch- he alinded was iNte Edidwrsk
I:etairc= :There was another state's:rift contains d to
it of a like objectioealk tendency; it was that the
.tterliti Deterees wireditestfotned until those mkt-
Jions-Preiefasmitime,' liegUlatets..iiieund by Great
: Britain. When fie)ookeii-to the American porn,
he waVhe.•seniklpingemseuts urged tfliere • the friends
df Britain, Air AMA emantry, esenteadl'cted them.
r. ftai'lio*.lißsoid, that the Beitish.trede am
}scaled by 'the Ei'rlid Decrees sod. wounded.
rutli end reprejeyviciiakilid slot elwayit Coincide,
they were nes.abisays in. a•iine; but still- it would
be wrong to that they were antipodes.
lie deprecated the flagitious imitation of the eel:-
duct of Franci'itt this particular, which metros'
to set down truth said represeatotims as Mean-
patible, and hostile; they had done so rat •their
accounts of our minus successes ; but Ellstatid
should tie err so far forget heniejf, as to resort to
French paint, in her account of the conduct. of
her Government, or the eratient of her meta* r.
The Hon. Gentle:mail had regretted the- .aredia-
stance of his being opposed to pram:ions' mva;
but the way to argue was, to get premises'before
they came to conclesises, and the Hattie needed
no lawyer to tell them that. Having established
that fundamental point, which was the great poiiit
of difference between the Hem. Gentleman sod
himself. he thought the subject was relieved front
much of its dillcultt. It aught be asked whit we
had gained by die Orders in Council?.-To which
he would answer, all that we bad east torn. The
Hon. Gentleman had said, that it had bran pro-
phecird our trade would by saved 4 it, that it
would be greatly increased. If such a pr.:vitt*
were made. it was.more then was called for. 11 be
saw a matt drowning, he did not think ditutilf
bound to promise that, instead of he* Aiegoeid
amid writhe after the straggle, he alessidtiliad
, self reinstated in strength end Width at once.
' No; he thought it would be to save
him, without tiny such promise, sad it Jo
nature and care to recover his wonted sigonr.
Upon this principle he ~slid not Italia Not .the
advisers of the Orders in Crioneilmeetr bausal,to
proinise any more data • that they' •irosid ira-
-1 vent the extremity of-rdim'astd`that,ltey simuld
have recommended• the measure ' rather as a
1 provision ag.sipet salainitxo tipoiro.iooltoiti .otep to
positive advautsge... • The '4lkintle-
man had said, that.the• •Ordire. • 'it were
.IdVat
injnrions to em -la with A ;I'l2o. fen
Gentlemen look tollAseithais, 'an veldt satin
what particular th+.'Peoltikirthe Itudis;' out:the
contrary, they.wetild6pelllttifithey tneoureglsite--
The truds.inyl;yprolii.bMiabautt b •• .tlivOrders.in
Council. big . i . 'tier. Iltiutirigair :•• (lief
may say. .thut .t ear Ondera.paamiked arse Rua l'.
but- they should not hare rooked it'll* s
nothing in their- Anti:re-8f fistiple. flat- Amu
viiiißd
have produceif such* . lit wok reMatliolde
to observe, .thgt. OK ultalted.sysetuksietii-.
ledge andiesiterldme
advocate their, nitfule i . 'hut
' justified his. 111141'kei . . , iableitUlt.
lie would neve, fte -4i ' 0 as is COMpell
should he rescinded, .
witsl,4tlalgstestftdinre lie4arpg
on them tieing sabstilittedijithisr plsce„l le eins
tended, this ought to be the case, from..the ergu-
ments of the Rig4t. Don. Gent. who idated that
our strength wits fallacious. This lie did not
believe ; nor would be agree with, him,.that,.wheis ,
that chile. *liich'•liit'eal,F4-Ptiee caw, the
marine of" France ought 'to be materiel. • Al-
though he stated toe strength of the country was
factitious, yet few, .lie was con6drotw world too-
filler the navy and •the commerce of it so. Ii:
lamented the loss of Hector Lawrence es ma:. 4
as any man could do. He could lot It:A
words adequate to pay a due eulogists to eiix
great man ; be was a men of great mind, and 1..•
consiclereil him a public loss. He believed if :le
were present lie would not have gone the gre.it
length of the Right Honourable Gentlemar.—
He give him every credit as to bite not being to-
ffee:iced by part, at the same tune he did noa
wonder ut the A inertniii. being distimerd.tooksho--
tile to this country, when they found they bad so
many edvocates. He masted the Hon. Getadenuni
would not think Im meant to throw eat 'ay itoliou-
anon that any anal he said would have tbet.titi-
chatty. At theissiiie ' •,- he impel feammiliii .get
carry the liberality of his churacter.*** (sett but
leave a something for lie morality to me ea.: It
was impossible for loins to believe that .Arosoca
would co-Nitride with this coimiry against Fistre.
if we were to do away with our Orders in Council.
or that it would be the mynas of sookieg Fresco re-
peal herdecrers. Thee idea was ridirolons,-of the
Embargo bring kept on as to France:, if taken-off
as lodise country. For what was 11111 wain's° ? it

•
could Wile ileteddeted ii
not t• *tau it one eve,
hibotety 14* ;•but Would
sio, diet• onr naval five
-power ;Orr their trade,
tam, Web she knows she
to enforce ? For exempt
of the Adterleans trading
'Oofeistientgave them et
Up stet to psehlbit the
tale of three tithes the v
cargo---yet they trade! ti
were not to Mame; they Ii
elo: they passed a law, by
eitrorce it : the veviels el.'
end Of Calm. and Went
vronl4 bo meetly the sent
se* enailted against France.
to (*arm* (heir vessels into ill
tl • iii not mein to-say tha
•,,,,ro isould plicollnlg...! it, I
4. • ...Serie I 1:41144 t•lteet by hi
It • i. .le dlitaisu asks, who
vie,' to .64? tie 4.001(1 no
11.4 WA *aid her to go to wit
iron he not to trade with
v....strait" her from tra ling w
some the overture of Mr. P
kive e power over every psi
plii coo take the law into 3
ocete every ship which alters
Milton. If Prance will set c
listveof potions, ere we mot ji
particularly when Mr. Arno
thmu,th Ni. Cloonnotioys 41
effect neutrals? If we had
moo:lied, we would have ai
had been stated cleat the le
Seeretary had heen looked
America; he did not belie'
not wide acquaioted with it
for electioneering perm*
hood, from a reatmetticli a
to the'following purport :-.•
herd wirds, Mit I believe we
as that elegant and coneilSat
tun will satisfyall (be eel
cry of hear! Ater 4—iie I
and urguinentative speech, I
pot accede to the Address, a
ifejesty's Ministers were rem
*hut it proposed, if it rout
arrest and honour of this cot
Mr. Elsatec spoke at cur
lon so lows tone of voice it
Ore ouly alma!l part of his
in eletennining upon the i
noresisdopted towsrde, AIM
• tatty justified by the moth
soontfss. At the SetethOf
toter into an essuniuutii on ofs
ih:elt lay udoit the tutlio,
Siott4, that almost 441 y situ
be.. IL; and the rime obseri
may coevlusion put uptn irk
errs tramouitted to this cote
lie next adverted to the teat
pose of 'hewing Ito* it was
of our ()Men in Cotilicil, wit
41sealretl, the total deficiency v
tetrad to Englatel oily L. I
Maitland and irtglund, the ish
cis trade Wei fifteen millions "
hattof which Nos a falltug
trade, the other half in the
tries. This effect, in respet
was a proof of the inerwreet n
eimiended for on the other si
our talunial produce could N
independent of our trade e
lierved, the embargo was IMO
Order* in (..)ntocil."but jonitl
crew' or France. The ivory i
out beet4depriveituftheenpo
nor *fume articletmly.bum oro
ly essefitial to oar welfare. In
been observed Ley rie..Hoa
preceding. he, resnaiked tin
heen 'Jeannine', relative U
Basile. especially when it
tine there were aireaily. meat
[
ten pesos •on their broils. t
written statemeat, lee/ onm
curved in our celenial-prod!
to our e.xportsaisel imports. 1
- ler of cow'', mots . low v.
'reseed situation of 4841* Mel
'every view its whirl i I.e Ail
se4isit, be tho'ngbt: del 'O4
, . y supported brie 4ost
t isiterksts. ik
email dcgrari .milfeetiorl
tn...
.-g IMailrels eog PifF...swhlisth,
lo Imist between America m
would de.ire it to be recollec
trade would of course he tuaM
to America, and is Piliard 4
collate of exchange wins it in
Literality deteriorated. la s
Council were subsequent to
that the latter 'erasure was a
the former, it appeared to I
I retorted that intelligence a
k. acted, with a regular said of
, of those Orders ; because, i
though they were not Mien
substance of them appeared
niiinicated both hy public eel
letters, whereby there could re
mind of the American tiovi
Betatu intended to carry that
and *bough not formally soot
sssurd. This would be corm
were had to what had been eta
-the explenetios rfsvas by Mr.
did mot lay the modiste hill sits
cinestittonble inforapassoii. the
'mould be acted upon by Grew
hurts said sgniniot ibis cesettry
but, iu his einsson,.Maley, 1
dame, hod sweet celled beieell
mien. Thertf call be as dear
ileatiltbe 111141160.1 P left rope
ied everelaitsaleoriey ees
Irma& lie by mom
eiiiiraejes • &iv molder,wl
Feeees, w bi deity vert imps