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ail always express!. and this sentiment he would never II
s' aii Rut when this measure was pnionsed as an alteration for i
enion•
A could that alteration be obtained ? If no!, it 1 i
in. would at •
,tors, i
Min to be richer hunting to say, you may have a I
4:els:'1711;il eliohicil it is known eillibt b
we to dopted. The question then I
,an y are you prevented from I
rat*--aawil rile could not see the bearing which this had upon the
ehos.l-oroniio bed
, considered. It mattered not, if it was se, if it could
0 be obtal i
va or why it was prevented; and in the 1
ray tame h
iinc,eml by min
cry .
a ing m a mil to be mach: If the Catholic i i
-
.)„.., be not granted, what, he would ask, would be the con. i •
iaasoaca". to Ireland ? should the refusal he auSmited to or re- 1!
it,..,4,4 If it were to be submitted to, then the Catholic As.
put down. Ile ehtietted some Honour..
elation'-i. must ba
a bear in mind, that if in the course of his
otatilenaantien'a -tan
r y to
thing should fall from him which might i •
box ,
hardly on them, they wets not to consider that he meant
„an:warily to attack them, but that he was prompted to it by a ne.
IT defend himself: lie beagal, huurevever, to observe, that
Wilooaf' I)U:tang himself on his trial, he meant to file • cross-indict.
par
foot against them, and to put them on their trial also. lie had
into i
tof honour of first coming tainent as the zealous advocate
or the Boman Catholic Claims, when his friend 3lr. Gentian was
aaa f , hiellbee and adveuted the same cause. lie (air. Plunkett)
9
Wiped la support of this gm 'Lion on the grounds that it was con.
!anent and just, and likely to advance in the favour of those who
held the reins of Government. lie did state in the course of his
; tan a speech that was atairwards published, and from which an
ittt!e:t 1144 rod
a last night by the Honourable aleniber for Lincoln
imr. J. Williams), and which he would never object to have read
saygentleman who desired it. He did state in the course of
tiaail
apeec h, that he considered it a deplorable thing that the
cabinet should be divided on the gunmen, that it was no
„naafi quo ion, 011 which a division might be fairly allowed,
bats vital question, and one that they had had opportunities of
considering again and again ; and one which, if they did not con-
fider, they did not do their duty towards the people. He admitted
as: it might be fairly inferred from hit speech, tnat he considered
ne Government of the country, in oot having made up their minds
this question, had
nght in jounag not acted rightly, and that he would not be
us
• Government an divided. Now he oistiretly de-
eared, that be had since changed that opinion—the opinion, lie
aunt, as to the inference that lie could not, with honour and can.
••Ay, rill that Government—and now he was rot of that opi-
tam pleat, bear, hear, from the Opposition Benches.) lie
ail not think he was in any way evading the question against
yin, nor in any way a:tending it. That opinion, he re-
ad he had since changed, and the question was, on what
to° •
aintiple that change had taken place? Was he justified in
fe lunging, Was it his fault, or was it owing to circum-
stances in which he might include Paine portion of blame to dime
via made the charge against Min. When he made that speech he
pandered, that although there existed among some part of tne Ca.
and professions in tavour of the Catholics, tome,: professions meant
annieg, and were little else but a mockery. His Right lion.
baba (Me. Canning) was not then of ihe M nistryu Laughter.)
net= the yea evening on which lie made that speech, he was re-
pliel to by a Noble Lind (who had since departed from this world),
vac reminded him. that notwithstanding Ms assertion, lie had
'wed a Government that was divided on this subject—in
aung the Duke of Bedford—which Lord Castlereagh told
LID, and he admitted, was not entirely agreed upon it; for
led Sidinouth was hostile to it. Lord Grenville friendly to it,
ma: Lord Erskine optemd it. lie did not at that time think the
castiun was at all advanced, or that there was any good prospect
careens for the Catholic cause to • Cabinet so divided, and lie
taught there appeared a better chance of it on that side of the
Eau on which its now stood. He was not bound to any indivi-
cm in the House, to give his reasons for his conduct. if any in-
andual in that Administration had any claim upon him, it was
atil Grenville, and Lord Grenville only ; no other al ember of it
,veld have had the slightest reason to complain, it the very day
remaking his speech he had finned the opposite party. Well,
e and the adennivaration he had connected himself with were
hauling assiduously, with the assistance of Lord Castlereagh, so
cin a short time a bill was passed through the Mouse of Coul-
ees, which granted to the Roman Catholics a great portion of
lea claims; from that day he never doubted the sincerity of Lord
unlereagh on the subject. lie (Mr. la) went on, arguing and the.
nouinglus sentiments; and after the lamented death of 31r.Grattan,
le brought forward a bill which was carried by a majority through
nr
House, and sent in triumph to the House of Lords. Had he,
:refine, any reason to suppose that a divided cabinet could not carry
it measure, which was only thrown nut by a small majority in the
ilaus• of Lords? He would inform the Hon. Gentlemen opposite,
s' he had found in the course of a few years the Roman Catholic
nation had made way, step by step, since he had separated hiin-
el from Mom Hon. Gentlemen. He had found that in many M-
ai:eel:hey had chosen untenable and mischievous ground, and he
rig forced to dissent from them. On the question as to the re.
:oral of the war, this had been the use, because he felt it his duty
onset; further, in the question as to the dia arbances that alp-
tad this country in 1819, and it was a most important question,
a hsd been under the necessity of taking his stand on the ground
it public mkt,' ; it was also the same on the question of Par.
Bunten, Reform. On all great cardinal questions he had
. been forced to differ from those Honourable Gentlemen ; and it
nut not he only who differed from them, but the public also
Inith dos ditchnisaes of the lion. Gentleman on the opposite side
of the Mouse bevies any claim upon him, and with this ex-
planation of the eawdoet he had adopted, he saw no reason.
ea ground on which it could be objected to him that he had
seeded to the gracious commands of Its Sovereign, when he
so pleased to make use of his services. He was not afraid to
Wide 21611judfori•• of the House and of the country in the conduct
he pursued. Zio Ron. Member had a right to throw out insi.
nations as to his motive, or conduct. He did not insinuate any
nag against the motives of others; he owed the explanations
he had given to his consistency and his honour; and it any per-
m improperly supposed that he had taken office for the emo-
luments of the situation he occupied, he would appeal front such
an unfair and unjust imputation to the history of his life—to
the known sacrifices he had made of emolument, to preserve
tat consistency of action from which he had on no occasion
trace swerved. (Hear, hear.) His Hon. and Learned Friend the
Reinter for Winehilsea had said, that the cause of the formation
of the Catholic Association was, that they took the manage.
meat of their (fairs into their own hands, finding themselves
abstioned by their old friends' who accepted office, and eh:in-
deed them. The Roman Catholies of Ireland, as far as re-
ggae' hint. he could safely assert, did not sympathise in this
eautnent Since his acceptance of office he had four times, at the
aletrece meetings of that body, and through this very Association,
MARA the thanks of the Catholics—he had been honoured with the
'spleen of their entire confidence in his integrit), and of the
anurance that their hopes of success mainly depended on the con-
tinue of these exertions for which they thus expressed their
graiude; even so late as November last, he had reeesved this tea-
timocv al their esteem from them, and he had received it, although
helai refused to be the slave of their directions, both as to the
time when their petition, entrusted to him last Session, was to be
Inman turvis•d, and as to the conditions which he might feel it
Fun any to introduce into it. His countrymen were a tractable, a
just, a d generous people, and although he had refused to present
a intition from the Association—hut as the petition of the Roman
CAIAI4I generally, yet they paid a testimony to the sincerity of
the notion and principles which governed his conduct. This re-
tention to which he last referred, originated with Mr. Woulfe, a
Inneman of the Irish bar, and a Member of the Association—a
min shunt he was happy to have occasion to name in that House,
ono; anount of his having originated this motion, but as a man
tan sh en there was not to be found one of higher talents, or more
errl!•.e sorb, in tie rising hopes of the country. On the oc .uion
n rut he referred, the Romvn Catholics placed this petition in
life tunas of the Honourable Baronet, the Member for West.
toiler, and they stated, that the reason which induced them
1,..1id0 so, mat the apprehension that the duties of his (31r. i
ronkett's) situation might render it inconvenient to attend
Irly to their interests. They at the same time entreated his
neat —that entreaty was not made in vain, and whenever
'' Honourable .)!ember might think proper to bring for.
stud that
.petition, he might rely upon the best support that he
cold giro it. And of one thing more he could assure him, it was
11a-that when the Hon. Baronet should introduce it, he (Mr. P.)
' 'odd not that meanie walk out of the House, and leave
ka to high; the battle of the Catholics. (Loud laughter.) In
au alluding to what had passed on a former occasion, he only did
• ha exempt and relieve himself from the responsibility of having
lan° tho consequences of the conduct that some lion. 31ent-
a' waitht proper to observe vented on aim. He did not mean to
:aainate any thing agtinst the motives which might have actuated
aa ran. Baronet in ehe course he then took. o,n almost all points
rinks he differed from the lion. Baronet, but he was happy
ar.ilhe opportunity of expressing his conviction, that a more
z71.1)1e, consistent, and sincere politician—a man more dis-
t"
Vend by high and unsullied honour, public as well as private,
Zaf en be found within the walls of Parliament. (hood cries
j. ae, hear, from both sides of the House.) He was glad of the
74119 that pre•ented itself of the expression of these sweimenw
names the Hon. Baronet (Sir F. Burdett here bowed), and he •
'';‘'l,.4 he base and engsteful—he repeated it, base anti ungrateful,
! ~ne riot awn -
uuMy seize the opportunity of rendering this tap
' 'al of the high esteem in which he held him. He had thus
Stupid the House at some length as to the conduct he had pur.
"L He had done so reluctantly ; but it was imperative upon
eia because, since the filet moment of the introduction of this
',stare to this hour, en alleged inconsistency on his put had been
o"_ atry adverted to, which was certainly giving to him an import-
„. ';rid
what he deserved-1n inconsistency, however, which
4d waftheaged as one not of action but of opinion. (Hear.)
raid
„ had to complain of the treatment he had experienced from
7 owourable alember for Lincoln (31r. J. Williams.) That
alt 31ember had quoted a passage from the speech delivered by
r'"31813. In that passage it even appeared he had disapproved
. • L. mho
.., • ittemperance ef the public speakers in those assemblies
'-'4 ate ted to be the organs of the Catholic body. Ile con-
dilrai c • •
them on that occasion, and his cor.demnatoon then was in
Nest accordance and contistency with his condcnination of the
""e intemperance now. The Honourable and Learned Gentle-
, .
fra; awl rot fairly quoted him, er he would have found
aaam endeavoured then, as now, to separate and detach the
07,,,,,..4f the Catholics at that period from the violent proceedings
bi-' 1°60t1e11; so now did he endeavour to induce the House
4 ..lOfawen the vices of the Catholic Association on the Roman
anaa, alulation of Ireland. (Loud cries of Hear, hear.) The
!st'e'm Learned Gentleman would have perceived that this was
a'iaaa if he bad but read the paragraph which preceded that
,ta clone him the honour to quote. H^ would there find the
na":aa sentiments:—" 'lle conduct of the Roman Catholics
siaerl,. Tanned to as the argument to abandon the pledge which
a., acia. hell out to m hist Session. lam not the ad.
n• of tier intemperance; there are some proceedings of