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sult. Itowever Iltat may lie, it would lie policy tan
our pert to ororala fur the aunt, and consular in
what situation le•laiel traiiiil i.. vested, if time ene-
my bot•alue.poseeseel itf every 1-art in Seal') awl
Poi tu gal. lie ineutimeril this, only for the pur-
pose at intitnetino his seatiniente iii respect to the
,iefenee of Irelaiel. 111 TeA:ll*.l to the measure
befure tie• !louse, he lied 0e!..• to repeat, that it
met with Lis 111..4 011111:11111111e0101t1011.
The Earl of e l 01R A 16H1.1. 60 iii the present state
of affairs, et cry eie.ii,• %death could prod lltrt. :: ~;itHt.
er defenve of the reining, was one of tia !nest nu•
portant of measures. Cut he did not feel disposed
to give that unqualified ,reprohation which hail hem
expressed by the Noble Cool (kliirkinghanislare)
on the Cross Bench. NVliicaver 'night be the me-
re of a Once to he raised iii this a ay, he could not
believe that it would easily become as efficient, or
as well disciplined, as the Volittiteers. lie laid a
particular opportunity of witnessing their zeal and
good discipline when he was in Scotland. 'fliers
wight be slime defect in regar
d to their offi-
cers, but he would say, from what he witnessed
in that comitty, of their high spirit and martial
discipline, under all jealousy which lie might be
disposed to possess for his own character as a Ge-
neral, he would Hi 5000 have put !ourself at the
head of thew, Volunteers, us of any disciplined
body of men whatever. It might be said, tea
LOCAL MILITIA BILL. the vuluntnere of the south of Englund were
Upon the Order of the Day beige; read, that the
not equally, as those of the North, to be relied
Joust, go IMO a Committee upon this Bill, upon, as un efficient force. lie did not be-
Lord II AWitESSURY new, and stated the nature lieve it was so; but supposing it, fur the sake of
of the measure which hail been brought before that argument, how could this difference arise but Irmo
House, fur the better defence of the country. lie some inattention to their discipline? Those of the
conceived that what he might be disposed to state South were animated by tiw seine zeal, were en-
upon this occasion would not occupy a great psi- gorged in the same cause, for their liberties and
tion of their Lordships' time, and the explarietion their country ; gull if a proper appeal were made
of the Bill itself would be contiited Within concise to them, there was not one man but would submit
and narrow bounderier. It was a measure which to every regulation neve-retry to discipline. He did
had met with the general approbatioe of all parts not intend to oppose the present measure, but he
of this kingdom, aud, be believed, of all classes of must say, that wore attention ought to have been
people. It would raise six times the number of paid to the volunteer spawn, ohicli, if it bad been exe
the old militia, and would become a useful forte, tended, would have been a more efficient one to the
either is time of war or peace. The origiu of the country. 'the observation of the Noble Secretary
volunteer system would he well recollected, and at (Ilaskesbury) was in his mind unwarranted, when.
the time that force was formed, it was one of the he described the deficiency of the volunteers, by
best which could be possiby adopted ;it was raised saying, that tins zeal which produced them was the
in a time also of emergency, and roused by the enthusiasm of the moment. Now, he must spy.
laudable enthusiasm of the moment. But still that be grievously wronged the volunteers: the
a more preeminent system was wanted in the same zeal and patriotism which first embodied
present circumstances of this empire; and he them in their country's cause, stilt continued to
conceived that permanency particularly pro- fine their souls; and be was coatidelit'would dis-
vided in this force of a local militia. Still, in play itself in the hour of danger. He thought the
respect to the former system of defending the coun- volunteer a better force than that of a local mi-
try •by its volunteers, it was not that measure litia ; he did not cnut:eive that the discipline of the
which, in the present instance, they cotild act latter -.could equal the former, neither would they
upon practically ; but there was uo wish or desire be composed of men so likely to display a manly
to make any shock in the volunteer system. Their zeal in defence of their country, sad he was sorry
Lordship might be inclined to tiniii, that the old they
should be substituted for the volunteers. Ello
militia principle would have answered all the per- could not agree with the Noble Earl (Bucking-
poses of defence, by extending it much further : hatnehire) that the right did mist of balling out
but he be ieved it would be found impracticable to the whole people of the realm, and compelling
extend that principle, if a duo attention should be them to bear arms at the pleasure of the Crown,
paid to our regular army. The plan now tendered wthout the interterence of Parliament ;if it did,
to the considerationof that House had been par- there would be an cud of all our liberties as Eng-
ticularly approved of by that great statesman now lishinen.
no more ; and in a conversation with that distal), Lord Havvaususe rose to explain. He said ho
'united character, while in administration, he did loot wish it to be understood that he Theylea
cast
heard him express, that he truly felt the value of the smallest reflection upon the volunteers.
that priuciple by which men might be armed and were entitled to the prunes, the throats. and doe
disciplined in the way of the present intended gratitude of every menus this country. When too
wanner. Under these eircumstancea, he offered used the word " withusiasm," he meant in that way
it to the House, not taking upon himself to say, which would allow every oaken. be laudably wee-
but that in an undertaking of so great magnitude, eidetic in defence of the kittgdom. ' fie ekrtainly
there might be some objection totems of the Bill i did not express himself, nor did he mean,that the
but taking it as the best national force which could lama' Militia should be sgbstituted'in the place of
be provided to act as a regular woe, he thought it the voluntee:es.
must matt with the approbation of every man de- Lord Hoeeetero--" My Lords, to do justice to
sirous to pay attention to his country's cause. the Noble Secretary, the Noble Earl (Moira) a ili
There might be exceptions, but this tneaeure would give me leave to cheery', that I think the term "sub-
have a gradual tendency to arm and discipline the stitution" was not made use of by him in the early
whole kingdom. It would be better dna an armed part of the debate, and that it was perhaps an in-
PeasantrY •in twin made liable to complete midi- cornet way of representing the Noble Secretart's
Lary regala.ions. It would be ready for the pin- statement. But still. if we look to the coase-
pose of co-operating with our army, if the enemy piens-es which mast result from this or any other
should ever make a landing upon our thorn ; and measure so opposite to that of the voiunteer st s-
it would produce men in the field, animated by the I tem, they must produce what might be termed a
same seal which roused every patriotic soldier. In i substitution in point of fact. I .I'4ll state to your
times of peace it would not be discontinued, and i Lordships, in as short a meaner an possviblotee,
ito ththe
ose
it might be woefully employed ia aiding the civil rea.rions which dispose me to give my
power, and would also have a tendency to preserve Ivey I shall do upon the present question. One
the ace. and tranquillity of this kingdom. Noble Lord has given his hearty approbation to
The Earl of SeLltrue spoke at ,cousideralde the measure, another has given it under centre'
length. lie slid not conceive that the Volunteer I qualitii•ations ; but, my Lords, I shall give an
system was an efficient one. nor did he approve al- unqualified opposition to the present. mcwoures
together of the present measure. The institution At the same time that this measure is in oppo-
itself would be brought into degradation, by sition to the Volunteer system, it is more conhsouant
its atfierding exemption to the hiter classes, to my feelings upoe this subject. Wen the
through the means of that part of the Bill which Noble Secrete.), applied his (doer tatioas to the
permitted a certain fine to be paid in lien of !per- difference between the !,resent Bil t and the volunteer
aortal service.. Now, it certainly would be the case, system, lie said no more than what had been set-
that all persons of rank would Pa). this fine ra- pressed by a Right lion. Friend of mine, whew
thew than serve; their example would be followed observations hate been the theme or calumny and
by others ; and none would compose this force but abuse in every part of tiler country. The present
the very lowest of society. hill cannot meet with my support, un this ground,
The Earl of Beim' NI:NAOMI; would net take that it will not be so effective as it Les been re-
ap much of their Lordship' time in expressing the presented to he, and besides it is a tissue of. coo-
few-sentiments he had to offer upon the present tradiction. The force ellieh wiU be raised can be
question. It ought to be tukeo into considerate ram, neither a regular Nor a popular One, to, it
that it was Hn Martesty's undoubted right, in times the advantages of neither. Tbe Noble iC1:741
of danger and alarm, to call upon all the people seemed to rev:Monte:4 it upon the basis of its beiug
of the realm capable of bearing arms ; which differsat from u volunteer Reece; atidemperior to au
measure had been resorted to in respect to the mined peasantry. 1 um not prepared to My what
key en anise; and in passing this Ilill into it hot , may be effected by en stated peavaatry, trod hy a
they were only applying a similar power, under cer- love of their i•utritry, and .; e, ailiously hums e.
tain regulations, to a portion a the body of the their lives to shake off the pea! of oppression. M c
people,. lie entertained a high opinion of the vu-
-1 unteer system, as far as it %%cut ; but it was mit and it will tie tried if such It Omit, so %animated by
an effectual as the present, which hail his most one common feeliiig ICY' the easing* they sutler,
hearty concurneum. The militia of this country, may riot do more than all the reeular armies which
in their present situation, were entitled to much Bare hitherto been oppostal to the great poser of
praise, and perticnlarly the Officers, who had et- Pretax. if Borieparie Le checked on the wijust
elle(' themselves as much as ally mete. without any and „,„,mineere eette.pe,, in r aka 'ire is now eie
great reinutieration. He should propose to the 1 gaged, it .curl Le the first time t'eat the career. of
consideration of His Majesty's Ministers, that some I hie success is staved. 1 coin me acipinintance wan
particular attention ought to be paid to !relied ;he !epee, having r: .idel Gere it considenible pre,
would leave it to their judgment to determine how taw of my lite. 1 smitiot tii,;) reeassiant,
far it would he prudent to hare the Intl" intlitia in we have a ri.,,te to ex per,
this country. and that the English shonlil replace 1 the past et' tee ~t„,,e ,re, ; e e
them in that kingdoni. The foul atrocity of the
the
pi esent cote*im le me elf a.• sir-. ,•Otlie .• ,
Bubo. of Fraarn had made rapid orneress in may he entertairied thet tomeexertival may not ..ie
Sped,; he trusted that the t'3!* vies of that insulted in „i„. The „e„.„,,,,,,is I here mime in respect to
people might br modeled, by Coen. euthusiastie ..eleti„. do not i..,„„.,h„,,e) „pity to the roe; et
lore of tilwrty, elite to comiteract hie ilrogi r. n... 1. ~,,,,tion, wily sa lit ras they ttlikl to sLle‘A that Armee
R"nal"irte lid 1" 'en univ''''‘allY ini" "'IA, gadthing limy he ex pee cul fleet an aimed peetotei,
perlia toe we might he disposed to rut
erreai too eo'rt ,e'a t• we
rileang Act ~ is ray 0').,10 Oils I" ..t. hi ii''..
sanguine hopes eolleeillillg what would be the re- alt awns:atilt to the ab' onlio; of au effeaciit lit il •

grown] for his troll t the House tii,on this ocea-
moo, and therefore he should tom•r. "'That certain
Harper,, relative to the alumna of proverty
taken from the Mures. should he laid u H,u the ta-
ble

Loot II 4WILSSIBURY eirwrvM. that he ititoul.l
not tulthcai the !louse poi i icillai ty upon this Cull-
ject, on account of the boshiess before their Lard-
Alps ; lint in res:ieet to the iiiiia:ll it of the Druit ; of
the Alutirtlty, he aid not know of any cnku;.i! :`ll
but what :might have been dr.0...:1 :'oho riiiiieeti:e. .
Ile should wisli the Noble Eati to Nu:l'3llw kis
motion. at 'vast fo:. the present.
Lord Ilutr.stso observed, that this cie:tl,l,
sins of great importance to that /louse and the. 1
country, and he was aurpriet'd that any reluctalice
should be sliewn on the part of Ministers. Alter 1
supporting the Noble Earl's motion, he still mu A
allow, that it might be better to defer it till a future
period, on account of the business then before the
House.
Lord I lAN' ICESSURY said, that whenever the No-
ble Earl choose to bring forward his motion, lie had
no hesitation to declare that he would give every
necessary information.
Upon the motion of the Earl of SUFFOLK, who
pledged himself to bring forward this question ;again
next Session of Parliament, it was withdrawn.

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