The British Press; or, Morning Literary Advertiser.
London, England, 1822-02-06 00:00:00

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Laid Ts: Redeemed, and fur Long alnimilics, whirls had
bees reduced, time to 981,6191 making a total of 451,111117.
Is which amount the mom, charge of the Fended Orem
002111 In have been decremed in 1811, when*, la had been
i eeeee .111. The Hon Gentleman then proe*ded to discos.
: the subject of the Sinking Fond, which was ferried by set-
ting apart a portion of each loan, for she ptirpoor of esta-
hliadtiNt • Gad fur it gradual repayment. /be wow" so
eel apart was placed in the hands of ceitaiii Commis-
stoners Coo that purpose. One would nattimilly expect
that money so given would he applied in reduce the
"II of she e""1.7; bat in point of fill, it 'tint in
quite another manner. If it could sea phew°, that of
floury that had heels borrowed at 60,'i part bad been
✓ipen ta the Commissioners who went Ibe orst sear to m tr.
bet In buy up the same richeour..., whirls 'had Bern posted
fur that loon at 70, it would evidently apple, that •u muds
had been lust to the country. Tit, siccoontiioshich had be. it
laid before the House *hewed, that in thrk ni v the
surplus of fuse trillions and • half had been•dipipated.
He could wi4h that • 'Sinking Fond alioahl J.A. formed
by a real surplus of ••••••e every deer; lint 1.12w001d
have It applied In the reductions of rive debt immediately.
The country had entirely lost the benefit of the four and a
bia mom.. s and, nut may so, hart it was more ht debt now
than no the Iss Jantiory 1812. The amount thing, ii by the
TtelhturY for iniered•pind un the tended debt, thole* of
management, and isbwesi on Excnecpser and Iriah Tteaanry
bills, W 119... .
It. 1R17...• 6'31,288,801
In 1818...05„.,,,,
In 1819.0 a"
In 11628..„.
The Howie would observe that in no two sac *iefte !re""
slot it •oinnt to within anew tiro will!ions.lif the 1111. f e A.m.
What would have been the cane if there h ol been no Inking
Fond! Beret r iog to the Treasury Areurinha, it would appeal
thotike charge for the funded debt tie ibe year ending 51h
January, 1822, would he 30,180113 k, tool the inteird on
34,7016911. of Excheqner Itt:lii slated to be boiltanding nil
bib Jatioary. 1821, calculated in the proportion ~f 1,849,21911
charged in 1820 fur the interest on 42,894,882 k hi bills out-
'leading on 51h Jill. 18!0 (thotigh I.e beheacd the amount
was 'heart arndermated by the Chancellor or the Eatliequro
would be 1,300,0001, making the whole chair for the funded
and unfunilid debt itinniiiit to 31,480,213 f.; whereas if the
simple. revenue he had torn e m•iiii eeee eel had been properly
•pplied, it would lime been reduced, by the ithlemptioil sod
expiration of dividends, and chaste for ennui ea and laud
lan redeemed, temountini to 453,932(. to 30,619,872/. The
present absurd system of the sinkiog God was therefore
Mown to have occasioned to the country • heavy lost daring
the tact four years, and would go on at the same rate wilting
us it should be continued. He would then-hoe •41r, whether
ang thug more important could have beet. tiniertrd in Hie
'from the Throne, than • recomm•nd.tian to the
,idelhanetse investigate with care the date of the politic
Milamom ! The Hun. Gentleman then proceeded to animad.
Aillbilietlie practice of employing the public money in the
•• a/ particular deparimeats in fund jobbine, and nn the
'punt, of letting particular individuals in the City into the
secrets of the Chancellor of the Exchequer, who mails('
thrinaelyes of the Information they so acquired for their own
private profit, which he contended was a ',Went most un-
worthy of this great nation. And he woul.l ask the Home
all/Mayer felleetiog 019 °soot this=., it would not have
Iwo more conaisteat with its ditty to have agreed to the
armeudoient of the lionvorahle Beroort !—(flear, hear )
TM evil prmtice• mod delusive "totem of necounie to
which the Sinking Fond gave rise were incalculably mis-
chievous. He would skew that if shot darkly plan of Mr.
Put bad not been adopted, at least 100,000,000/. woad hire
bees saved to the country.—(Hear, hear.)—He would sky
it to be • delusion from begilsoing to end,—(Hear, hear.)—
It would be far preferable that a plait should be adopted fur
ran :ering the public accounts in a plain and open statement
of how moth won received, how match was expenthture,-sad
what surplus remained ; sod that the athletes should be Noe
ioediately applied to the reduction of debt to that smogs._
He ealmtated the .Right Hon. Genileinse not to proceed say
mots until he had on simplified the ar.
of ignorseter as to Ike real meeditims of
out of the present made of staking ep
eateleale, was such that every idle rumour excited a
world of mseatikseya, apprehension, sod alarm, fur the possie
blip coomeqesemes of oily unfortunate and unforeseen °reit.
teem That would occur if Mac public accounts wire
aimed so simply eta that all persons who mold read could one
Semiarid sheen. If the sinking fund were done away, there
Mould be as available surplus revenne, which by the pretreat
system was el thrown away in the insnsaeMent of locos, for
. wheels there was OM the sisistle.l rest in eessity The told topic
of Me Speeds which sac noticed by the Hon. Mover, was that
of the reductions whirl) were said to have been made. A
• pamphlet had •ppenoril unite.* the title of" The State of the
bletion," which we. stated to have been published ley the
authority of Ministers, in which a rest deal was said unto,
that subject. But lee could prove that Not Doe in:dement
,shereia contained tom firm to lad was Corrett.—(Hcni.)—
Cpthilit was therein takeis (or rerintliuns in 'the estimates of
11;1106,40001, in one year, and a like turn in another year, and
• mon. list it well • ronstimit subject or complaint in that
. Home that the intilentillerr Oen... Clrfrenpf•lllieti with the sup.
• ply. la the four large marmots wider the head. of Navy,
army, Ordnance, and filiacellaneima, credit waa claimed for
*airings to the sawmill of 10000,000 f. in the Ism four year*,
aid yet his staiemeut shewed • prosre••cre increase is the
• mineral expenditure during that p rod Ile deprecated
Gentlemen being noislell by the statewide that writ their
put forward. He retreated the House to attend It. the video
set by Ministers themselves is that publication opus the
reductims which they had made. They toot gitast amidst to
therm, Ives for the exertions they had made, and yet said
that after all the savings efr•ctid were but of tittle value to
the country. TM revenue was mated in 112 Speech to hare
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escieiled that of the preceding year, sail to appear se be in
• course of prole entre improvement. le the Speuelefsetta
the Throb. i• 1816, lie found the use language bed beets
made um of. The revenue had your on increasing from shat
time, but • progressive toe had also takes) place is the
eapeodituie. The Honourable Gesitlenseo then proceeded
to notice the paragraph in the Speech which stated
don The ElliiillAttO had been framed with every alma-
lion to economy winch ciicismstaures would 4110 W, mad
that it would be satisfactory to the Nellie SO keen
that his Majesty bad been able to make a larger ieductio• In
the I expenditure, particularly in our sieve! and milt.
tarp ',gobbet-inmate." He read passages from the vpreclies.
of 1819, 1820, and 1821, is marl, them/fine %curds, which
uccosiutied some laughter, and said it was ratio., strange
that after all those lions, and nuts ithstandiug time two
branches. of Hie establichmetit acre alway* 6.4 to have
been reduced, sot one peas), less of expeuditure lid
been incurred. Whet, be asked, ought to be said to the
Sr. who put forth such matentrnts ? If that Weal
were composed of five hundred tradesmen sustead of
gentlemen, they would be scouted out of
Tradesmen would acititiniae every item of account et heirs
utmost severity, and woe be tie the Right llon.Crseleams
if he did not render them in a little better form and uslh
much mote accuracy than at present.--(Leughter.)—He
called upon the country Centime') to attend to this, sod to
redeem the pledges they hail given to their coasiituentio to
compel the reduction of the meatiest of the cuentry.-.
(Hear, bear, bear !)—Considei able imprueetnest ass said to
have lakes place is the commerce and manufactures of lbe
kingdom, which were said to be in a Aourishaug conditive.
The same was said fu 1818, arid the slate of public
referiing to the prices of the funds, was al that lime cited
as a proof that the disirevera which had prevailed in 1M;1
preceding year were gradually subsiding. Bat at that very
time, white the Minister was borrowing money to buy opt
pail of the debt, be was employing underhand uteasuirs is
cause a rise In the funds, su that • higher price should be
paid for whatever be bought. The Hos. Grallerean next
proceeded to costive the question that had been put on the
preceding day by the First Lord of the Yoramary to a
deputation of Gentlest., from the City, which, be Mid.
was a decided proof of the utter iganrance and imbecility
of those who were charged with the adiumistratiou of the
affairs of the country. Confounding the present depassima
of the agricultural interest, with sisal of the caienftercial mid
esenufacturlng interests at • former period, shay proposed
to relieve It by an edemas- of capital to the country kaukeis„
when it was notorious to every other 11130 in the country Mae
the bankers bad more capita! cm band, than, rut the want of

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meorily, they knew, hopf to employ, or ,coolel.And means to
use. When, during the last &mint, he rifted the propriy
of reducing dm pebble establishments to the scale of aniet
he callell the golden period of 1191, use dumber of Athol-
mialrattio derided it as absurd, smother &Monied It as folly,;
all declared it tee he ingiractiemble, saddle Rouse was led to
'clop' that upintort; yet no mime had the Hoerr eepersted,
than those same 11 suss vi adopted ibe standard of that reel-
deo year. The «title cheer fur the expenses of the Go-
vernment, visa and military, itcluchng Ireland, in that Ate,
and exams's, of their debt, amounted to about 10,000, f.
The Pigpens, of collecting the revenue fur that year, de sr
peered ley the lite Speaket`i report iu 17b0, ensountietrto
di Scree teal.; and the ramie shire. of the debt to about
tionkendt. el'h.r, on the tither hand, had It brim last
The amount of the expenses of the Civil List, milt
• eieil establettmenta, mod collecting, amounted
in tele .... to .: te7,1?7,4411 t a
1019
•
1810
the last was • sear of boasted ecOnott,,, sod feat year 'the
in.litltt *RS tti,r24,1431. All the teiluetiejos thit had been
moide mei in the army sod navy estakdiShrhenis ; lent no
thought had been ettertaieed of teirelaiog
.the Civil List
The aronont of the Civil I.ist wen now 1,104,0001; in 1192
it Wei myelt Its., aititortgh • large animal was theta paid one
of It for pensions of various kinds Which were sow prodded
f • ir horn oilier source., The late •ceereious to the Mt-
for the impose of siiet:gthentug It, was like In-
trnitueieg a number of i0d,,0•41, foto • riamoserod
family to consume the little that they hid remaining. The
brother of one of those persona (Mr. lkyriu) had been
appointed Minister to' the Swiss Caohnis al a salary •f
S,9COf. • yesr, with 1,5001. for outdo, sod he supposed tree
'viten: expenses besides. That was the economy produced
by that secession of strength to the Ministry. Sir J. Webb
held the. appointment of Directoe-Gencal of the Medical
Department of the Ordetinee, at a large salary, abieh was
named for t edortiun, but, thmugh the inductee of the Earl
o' Chatham, oho previous to his ensbarkaiion r.r Gibraltar
bad made it a reclaim that ibis appointment, which was two
of his snaking, should not he reduced, he had bees Mot
in, and to Mahe up the necmiary redolent:in, ten young met,
relocated as sotgentia, had bee• placed on half-pay at
• day. The system or panting slew eumrisisaions and me-
motions in the army and navy, instead uf filling Op vaCallfiell
front the half pay, to which be called the attention of 110
Wear 184 June, was still etititheued; and to skew Bee
prom& on which it was kept up, sod the impartiality will,
which it was conducted, he begged to inentiou that in the
whole corps of marines only me Scat eun.mh.ifiti and No
other promotions had been given since the peace, the teams
bring that the officers of that corps .ere not brother*
or relatives of Members of Parliament; but in the
same period 241 new commissions bad been given in the
navy, at an increased expense More than equal to the
saving effected by the reduttion of the whole of the unfurls-
slate eletka who had bees di-m.sited. Had any nue of the
jithinr Lords of t be Admiralty bees reduced ?—(Hear,
had say other of the ureters officers with Imp salaries bees
reduced?—(Hear, hear.)—Oar the couirmy, • gallant Colo-
nel is his eye, who held two lucrative appolutineute before,
had lately been appointed sit perititeudr ut ut the gma..-(L tusk.
ter)—and hit the dein!) of General Rothfurt, • brother of the
gallant Colonel had also been •ppointed to the melisso
sitsuattos of asehtant Sr.. worker, w hick had thereby West=
meant. There were many inferior soustims in the boon.
I hold fitled by Peers and Members of Parliameut which 0011112
to be r. dared. The coleuses fur the guards, under the dle
rectmns of soother useless and expensive establishment, bad
cost the country 4,000 limes more, be had beep inform, d, then
the prier fur witch they meld base been made at Bumming-
ham. The Hot. Member then proceeded io succession
to review the establishments in the lonia., Islands Malts,
Cape of Good Hope, and the other Colonies, which he dealt
elated as a scandalous charge upon this country; whereas, If
the Culottes were permit!. d the advantage of British laws,
and relieved from the dispeceful reale idiom imposed osi
them, they would be fully able to osaintain their us. esta-
blishments without expesse to this muntry.—(Hear, beer.
(.ea-) -He contended that the Housmsosid. set do
its duty wood It eowrfrefted the abolition of every
theliolder of which did the duty by deputy. He saki
e..orlude with Ibis address to these airtime(' who came
f there to benefit their constiteeth; to those who came the..
to hearth themselves be bad nothing to say.--(Cries o
" Order! Order!")
The SPEAKER said, the Hot. Member most be sereo
that it was not in order tu unpile tu any G.them-us that
came to that House with any improper motive.
Mr. HUME said, although he might out be allowed
use the expression, be Mould still continue to thiukk
true.
The SPEAKER said be would put it to the Hon. Steds•
her lumen' whether it was at all consistent with the intention
with whir-bibs Rules and Orders of that House had been
established, that when any Hon. Member was admonished
that a wheeler expreseium used ley him was out of "him,
he ehould reply, that if out permitted to me the ViLet
be should nevertheless continue to thick it true of
Chair ! Chair!')
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Mr 111.7 M E said be bowed with the most perferieelllie-
riou to the decision of the Chair; and concluded by tepolom.
as an addition to the Address, " That shale tb:y Mammal
their grateful acknowirdinieuts to his Majesty far the re•
Auctious made in the several public eittabluiluornts dui lug tie
Just year, they fell it filet, duly to slate Ode conrietio,,
that still further reductions were stereseary; that the distorts
which in last Sesaiuu bed been proved to exiat bad greatly
increased and that in their opimou excessive :autism, dia-
propui (tined to the means of tbe people, and aggravated
by a vicious system of finance, was she principal cause of
that dialects, to relieve which they earnestly recommended
each Nether redortimas io the pnWic expraditure es argt:
enable them to relieve his dutiful auls;mta frost some poi-
sluts of the liferdeu of taaatamkwhich premed aitht each one •
thy upon them."
The CHANCELLOR 41 the EXCREQHRlllooldidt wee
sot the firm time that the anousettoo had Memoir/lb of W.
acuity to the. peak aAoeses ; his desire legalist Its y
.should be iitquismokmaderailissal. Is unmet, Se the Bark
of &wand, the Haw weer aware that, is us verreatee.,
eseetlueir done with them „could be • secret hermit .
There
.was as Act of Portionless which remised that
.all mem Metres thereto should be Isid befoi• Peri.* •
moat, he foursomes of which he -.Mold, In • few day.,
*slew before the Home. Whisimer wield he the view
of the Honourable Member for Aberdeen, who thought tee
maposire oto very extraordinary, there were many who
thetwoht that the present distress,• might be retioved by .
liberal OSIOO•1011 of the emetic, of the country, bat ow tett
queettoo he metal sow to offer uo argument. is at • slays
as uppartaaity would be offered by Me 14,b10 Feared (ii -
Marquis Loadonderry) ; in the totals he most deelere,
that bo held it moat naproitable to disease lIMISOMO ty
bakes. II be were capable he should think is s mete it'
the time .f the Home to attempt to follow the lloomantb,
Member (Mr. Hume). As to llie calculations of the Be..
Member, be believed it was quite unusual is that Boom.,
say any thing to such a maw of Genres without rm.,
der comideration. Had they been submitted to b:rn IJ
'the Hoe. Member (accurdiig to the mesmerised Mirka /
of Hnumeahle Members proposing to debate them), tg
should have been tine ready to have gives the Horseenth:o
Member fur Aberdeen bus ideas thereon ; but it us. It
. less ear, for him now to do it, us the calculatioosiof
Hunteurabie Member did nut appear to be., so his reseal,.
hon. For iu proportion as the seteme approached to doe
eitoeorlatire, was the impossibility of assklug the a- -
thorium be proposed. If •
Member's statement, only
In four years, IttialOg SOH
a reduction which
iff tiny tewnetre to meet

Ti 4 gonoutable Aleskser
if, Wit ad ofeatting for fegii
what the Govrroment bud
What reduction's had been
would be laid before Pa..
smiles data thew if more cow
instieipste feline mid d .r
elllrpraseupke of the How,
darted the pobliesemire.
the sympathy of tie Noose
diutharged, sad reprobated
Wield the ,janier clerks f

pwubilitr of making the great re•
as bad, according to the Hot.
• morphia revetwe of four inilltos.4
totalA be more ruts tlian tip
trouiJ leave the country ilatileot
the rarest tragic, Cc ontac.
would hove sheen muie ibeneira,
other reilociiins (vilboat kaowleg
I aimed/ done) he ttad •aitad to se..
n nadir la • few dayi est!111•41
and the Hue. Milltbr.-
ruuld be June. But in tot mem"
Its puede n yea wore eoasaittaargii
,Gi•ailernaii than to above wrlvri
Tke.Hun Member b.col
it 'overall tee Clerks rho had k• •
rd Ilse Gur,ronteat •
feggClkot ho e •