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speared to can of tlia evissung-ases-.--
'poised the worthy, Hisealeoppis. would wet. abpix,:t
avow.—(ftere Mr. Atkins cried out. that he did
*art to thew, hetillituld abstaii Apse
my tamirks open it; but heltrould'contend, with.
at few at contradiction, that the whole of %he
Leptesentatives of tbeCity had had an opportueity
Fatiressing theieseuei meets upon the Address, and
ifluenciug at by their votes, if they thought proper
extretse tbe, opportunitv—(.4ppreete.)-IVhen
ti Court wassumusesedoll theCuurt was included
a dilatoriness's% audits romintious were valid, not.
ithstaedimg the ebsetice of the negligent.—(A p-
faints). As to the positive merit of the Address,
e.erie'nothing to it disrespectful tft the House of
Iranswick. nothing disrespectful to the Parliameist
F (Inlet Britain. nothing unbecoiniug the Citizens
Loudon, in times lake those (npplunses). Hr
as no party man; he believed the Court would do
im the justice to acknowledge that he was not ; he
mild not go all the leugths of certain gentlemen;
et he thote,;ht it impossible, that any people, with
teir eyes open, could he insensible to the aggraii-
isement upon which the present Ministry was
eat. and the constant solicitude they evinced, to
refer their ewe interest to that of the pablic—eifp-
Fees: s).—hie hoped, that the Members of thou
!ourt would nut act like so many children, and
roared to contradict to-day what they had app
roved of yesterday.
Sit Cu amts ?ma said. that what would fall
eau bias to-day might probably be considered us
Invitees that party with whom he was in the habit
(acting. He admitted, that the act of than who
tat ea the ',cession upon which they were sten-
*Md. was the actor all, as completely as if all had
ite. /Applause's.) He was bold to say. that a
=el into than himself, or one more sincerely
to his kiertigu. was not in the Court, or
i the Country. At the MUSIC Caine* When a- nice-
are of this description wee brought forward. he felt
iluself bound to resist it, its inconsistent with the
igxlieem ty of die Court. (Applaases
a. .) tie was still.
est of the same opiatesbefore; witls.respect
5 tbe.,oreas itself, he bad.the same objection to,
; he considered it as.a disrespectful Address, and,
us which it would be fur the honour of the Court
alter..if itemtlit do e° consistently with its own
filitle regulations, which it could riot, with dignity
r propriety. abandon. He hoped the Address
veld be published, far he was cure that if it was,
would sweet with the same fate which that which
as prodoced in Ow Court last Monday had met
ids. /Lied dissispobotioa.) .It would have a good
feet upon the public mitt& by abewiog to what
eigth the party was willing to go.
Mr.I.VC&I observed, much matter was introduced
Ste the Address. which, be was persuaded, had
seer entered into the contemplation of the Court.
it &Honied to thou reflections which were passed
that elm of their best Generals, without any in.
pity. He would appeal to all the Members who
two puss alt upon that occasion, whether they on.
Ittelluelleflism the notice, or from any other
intil the debate itself informed them
I such reflections were to be introduced
la obaarvid. that there was no differenee of opi-
leo at to the necessity of inquiry, and supposed it
ea ie the recollection of most of them, that a
Willy Alderman had pledged himself, in case such
o inquiry was proposed in Parliament, that he
souk support it. It would therefore be more be-
eating. in his opiiiior, to wait until Pediment
and refused, before any effort was mall to press it le
'pun their attentioe. This was the reaton why he
igned the Itequirition, and opposed the Amend.
went.
Mr. M AWN 4!C could not conceive, for a moment.
hat so extraordinary a reason, as that which the
last speaker but one had advanced, in favour of
publishing the Address, could possibly have been
advanced by any Member of that Court. He had
expressed his wish that it should he brought before
the public, merely that it might be condeinued and
fiegraced by them If he had not this instance be.
Hite his eyes, he could not hiive believed it possible
for any member to be notions for the disgrace of
the society to which his belonged. The first subject
for their inquiry was, whether they had any precede
sus to bear them out in the re-consideration of
this Address t If they had, he was most decidedly
of opinion twat they should proceed in re-considte
it. (Applause). lie perfectly acquiesced in the go•
tieral.spinthf it. (Appleusse.) Ile thought that
the country ought to take care to whom it was in•
treated, noel of what description its Ministers were.
(Applause.) But though an address fur inquiry
might be necessary. he ,had sot see why any unqua-
lified censure should be attached, either to blmiste, a
or Commanders. (Applause.) He therefore thought
it was something unjust to be talking of inquiry,
and, in the same breath, giving judgment. (Ai.-
plauu.) lie did not think it right to bniqg people
to trial with halters round their necks, mid there-
fore he. wonfd vote for reading the Address.
`Mr. WAITKMAN said, that he was precisely of
the same opinion with his worthy Friend who sat
near hen, and who had done great I 00000 mir to him-
self 114111 to the Como, by the part he hid taken.
lit was the more happy to have his support mom
this occasion, as he was generally in direct typo-
asnuu to him ; a circumstance which led to the
strongest presumption of integrity soil independent
feeling in this instance of has support. He had
said. that if he consulted his 'private feelings, he
would rate for the reading of the Address ; upon
the same ground of feeling, he (Mr. W.) would
rote for it, because he was sure that nothing ob.
iectioaable would be found in it. or militating iii
any 'simmer against those principles which it
ors their duty to maintain.—(Lord applosses.)
Ile was not surprised that many should on;ect to
where heal proceeded from him an this case, its they
were always an the habit of %hewing Ishii the wane
regard. The hour, it was tisiii, was late ; bit it was
net mid, that the itireatigetion was imperfect. or
the discussion limited; on the contrary, he could
state, that it was most full and accatate; there
war not a s.a.gle pot-it 111 the whole Ouch

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there mu greyed for
said so still. Da Was
it to be presumed, that those who sat there doing
their duty, until a late hoer, should tie turned
upoa by those who neglected the performance of it,
and told, that, because they had neglected it, the
industry of the others should go for nothing. He
was is years i. Member of that Court,and in the ha-
bit of toting with minorities, yet he had never resorted
to an attempt of this kind. He had been left in •
minority upon the debate about a monument to
Mr. Pitt, which was resolved upon. A more dis-
graceful act than that the Court had new passed ;
and though it was lost by three only, they did not
attempt to debate it again ; on the coutrary, when
application was made to him far that purpose, he
had too much respect for the proceedings of the
Court to violate its forms, however great the oc-
casion, or however strong the probabilities by
which he was encouraged.— ( elpplauseel
they resolved, in the present instance, to discuss
the Address again, he would be obliged to repeat
all his arguments—the entire debate should be re-
' Dewed, or the Gentlemen present elsould decide
without consideration. No objection whatever was
Made to the broad ground of inquiry ; indeed, if
they objected to that, they might as well give up
lie right of petition altogether. (Applanses.)—
Gentlemen, it was true, had said that Portia-
strut would take cognizance of it, and that
they would . support the inquiry, if moved in
that place; but lie could not depend upon this.—
(Appleuses.) He had seen them for many years
opposing all such inquiries, and, on that 'milieu
felt u difficulty, which lie could not surmount, in
complimenting them with his confidence. He was
sorry that the worthy Gentleman opposite had let
fall an observation, which proved his ignorance ef
the Constitution ; namely, that the Address was a
retlectiou upon the Parliameut. if lie had only '
looked for a moment into the authorities, he would
have found the right of petition established upos
the strongest fuutelation ; he would have seen how
the persons who brou.;ht the Constitutiou to what
it is, and by whom the present Family was seated
on the throne, regarded such right ; and from so
seeing. he would have been taught to respect and
cherish it. The arguments used upon this occa-
sion brought to his remembrance the times of
James 11. The complaint then was, that the Per►
liameut was not called together; but the Coins
plaint now was. that, though called together, it wee
currupt, and thereby inadequate to the
i = pto
bf its • meeting. (Here one or two Menefee • ,
Gentlemen might smile; but he defied film
to point out a petition in the whole of dot Ihseaksl.
(presenting a volume of the Proceedings stionewr
Common Couneils,)inore moderate is its timing.
or inure respectful in its language. A little balm
the Revolution, a petition was presented, then por-
ing for die meeting of the Parliament. Upon that
occasion, many persons (like many of the preseat
slay) opposed it as improper and disrespectful t•
the Sovereign ; but what did the Parliament think
of it itself ?---eshy it voted that it uses the undoubted
right of the subject to petition the King to call
Parliament together, for the redress of grievances,
and that to represent to His Majesty that such pea.
tions were seditious, was • violence againt the ancient
rights and privileges of the people of this kingdom.
The opinion of Parliament was therefore express
upon the subject of this right. Previous to that time,
the debistes iu the Flouse of Commons were timer
limited; bbt immediately after, permissionwas gives
to that aerie; that the people 'night ree the cosidttet '
of those who acted fur them. Time right of petition
was then asserted and maintained, end Amour&
recognised by the hilt of Rights, to the esehmiss .4
of all disputes and contradiction. He had stshad,
at the last meeting, the affair of Minorca, as appli-
cable to the then discussion ; he thought so still. Lord
Chatham (the Lord Chatham of that day) was, he
believed, fully as great a man as Mr. Perceval, and
yet, he declared, in answer to their address at that
time, the sittisfactiop he felt, in observing how
dearly the people respected the honour of the
Crown, and of the country. So contrasted were the
opinions of former Ministers with the present.
—.With respect to precedent, some Gentlemen
lied called out that they had precedent fog the
reconsideration and revisal of the address ; but what
sort of precedent was it Wheel that Corporation
voted an Address, it ordered the Sheriffs to wait
upon His Majesty, to know at what time the ad-
dress so voted should be presented ? Why, then,
having obtained leave to present one address, should
they presume to otter another. —(elppleastes.)-
IVonld it not he better even to do wrong once, in
support of a just principle, than to give up that
just principle, and do wrong in many cases. Sup-
pose that a iniW and water Address had bees rated;
and that another, more strong and vigomus, had
been proposed—what would Gentlemen think of
this daring innovation ? But now that a vigorous
and strong Address had beau voted. it was not
thought so daring to substitute it with • milk and
water one. He, and those with whom he acted, bad
never quarreled with an Address, after it was once
re.olved upon. They acted according to the prin-
ciples of the book which he had quoted, which was•
new nut of print. and which they ought to sub.
scribe to republish, for the purpose of instructing
them in the principles of that conduct which it
would become them to adopt. Under all those cis..
enisistances, lie itopcti they would see the propriety
of going up to the King wills a temperate and
loyal, but, at the seine time, bold and manly lane,
gnage.--I.4ppi,nrses). As to the necessity 0f..1114
quiry, no one could contradict it. Was there ssici
thing due to the country, nothing to the scaly,
which lie was represented to have libelled, bat
which he had not libelled ? He admitted that it was
composed of the 'semen men, but he could' not
help observing, that the way to eouuteract, to de.
feat, mid rtti tt that bravery, was to stifle inquiry in
those instances where its bravery wu rendered use.
How could it think of opposing itself to the
haennies of the enemy, if there was no encodrage-
meat to its spirit, or inquiry into its disasters—if
justice was not dune upon the ignorance which Dna-
applied it ? lf he vies ever so sure that Parliemeut

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c. fie had saraMer points. to which his .observatioas wets
Fart, and was partseaTarty directed. It was that which respected
is anxious fur the frommander to who* illusion was already
be approved. made. Ho had said atrtady, that Van army marched
out. of. the boldly into a country, and was in want of prevision
it Courts he for three days, and was afterwards obliged to re-