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would forte
wove the publitmoney. If any thing
eget wrested from the patine purse, he hoped
the Hos. Betithispass would 'fellow up the matter
to the utmost, in order that such sums might be
restored.' One Xiendetnan had said they were too
hasty, another hid said the •punishmeat had been
snificiently infliaed already, others said so and so.
He cawed nothing about what was said; bat', a. a
representative of the people. he felt it his duty to
see the money of the public properly disposed of,
and that the recovery should not be delayed, not-
withstanding what any little man, in a great situa-
tion, might say upon the sub)ea.
Mr. HO RNION explained.
Mr. DAVID SCOTr said, that his only wish
was to express a leen .n for the purpose of inducing
the Honourable Gentleman who had brought for-
ward the question before the Homo. to withdraw his
motion. If it was to be carried any further upon
the present occasion, the public opinion would be
otherwise than it was at present; iostead of input-
ing the condua of the House to the real motives,
they would say that the measure arose, not from a
wish to do public justice, bat hoe; bitterness and
rancour against the party. h would be said, that
after forty years faithful service to this public, 'they
were not satisfied with the severe censure whidshad
ssready passed upon the Noble Lord, but s=
oj, him altogether. The public, he
*laden it is this light, and no other. No men
4,eidlevea
that his Lordeltip had &steed any be.
stalk frogs participation of emoluments arising
from the public funds. (A general maremer.J With
restto the dismissal of the Dean of the Faculty
of Advocates of Edinburgh, he was satisfied the.
Noble Lord had nothing whatever to do with that
initiation ; and he challenged any Member of the
)louse to say that he had any power over that office.
Mr. K ENNA I ItD said, he should trespass but
three moments upon the House, in answer to the
observations of the Hon. Gentleman who spoke last.
With respeet to the Dean of Faculty, could it be said
the Noble Lord bad not been a bitter political ad-
versary in that transaction ? The Honourable Gen-
tleman could. know nothing of the history of that
part of the kingdom; except what he might have
read in Dr. Johnson's History of So eland ; Lord
Melville possessed great power and authority in. that
part of the country, he could not tell how far that
power might go ; but in defiance of the assertion
made use of, he would ask the Right Hon. Gentle-
man whether Lord Melville, with all his family
had not made use of all his interest, authority, ids.
ence, and power, in turning out that Honourable
and Learned Personage ?
The SECRETARY at WAR said, he should

have abstained from speaking upon the present ques-
tion, but he felt himself called upon in such a man-
ner, that he could not refrain fronsmating some falls.
He first begged leave to ask when the Honourable
Gentleman who spoke last, foitnd out that the No-
ble Lord was a bitter political adversary ? was it
when the Honourable Gentleman was in stria habits
of intimacy with the Noble Lord ? was it when he
was entertained daily at his hospitable board? was
the present a time for him to call the Noble Lord s
bitter political adversary, a time of need, the time of
his disgrace? He trusted. he did not speak with
too Much wittetb-upon Mei sublet, when the
Hon. Gentleman had introduced a topic, which was
extraneGus to the present question, when he had
expressed himself in such terms, after the Hon.
Gentleman opposite had agreed to withdraw his
motion. With respea to the fact of the dismissal
of the Dean of Faculty of Advocates' that measure
tcok place at a time when democratiedoarines were
disseminated in that part of the country, when a
number of personsiimiscalling themselves the Friends
of the People, bad held meetings, at some of
which the Dean of Faculty, inadvertently, certainly
attended, and incautiously countenanced such most.
ings by his presence. Lord Melville had nothing to
do with the business. The College of Advocutes,
indignant at the conduit of the Dean of Faculty,
which they conceived to be highly reprehersible,
had a speedy call, and unanimously agreed to his
teMOVII.
Mr. FOX observed. that the o' e-rvations of his
Hon. Friend (Mr. Kinnaird) might have been
somewhat irrelevant to the present question, but had
been provoked on the other side.
Mr. KINNAIRD, in explanation, said, he felt
himself called upon to take some notice of what had
fallen from the Right Hon. Gentleman ; he was
accused of calling the Noble Lord a bitter poli-
tical adversary ; he had been abused for his want
of gratitude to the Noble Lord at a time of
need, as the Right Honourable Gentleman had
chosen to term it. He admitted he had been in ha-
bits of great intimacy and familiarity with the
Noble Lord. He had often been in his company,
and residing in the same county with him, had ad-
mired him as a pleasant companion; but, was it
because he had lived in terms of good neighbour-
hood with him as an individual, that he was now
justified in sinking from his duty, and condemning
his condua as a public man ? It had been said, be
had introduced this 'tibial; but he felt the speech
of the Right Hoo. Gestlensan was an indecent re-
proach to himself; and he thought it was necessary
he should give some explanation for the satisfaaion
of the House, not for that of the Right Honourable
Gentleman.
Mr. ELLISON said, he had come down to the
House for the express purpose of following up the
resolutions, and to carry the whole measure into
ace ; and with the firm hope, that, by the resolu-
tions of that night, they should punish the Noble
Lord as far as they could consistently, and make
him refund every farthing of the public money
which he had obtained by his nefarious peculation.
He tonsidered the public money should be expended
in every way that economy could diaate, and he
would go any length to obtain justice upon these
parties. if a Committee would throw any light
upon the subjea, he was ready and willing to sup-
port that measure.
Mr. WHITBREAD felt that he bad not only
been arraigned by the Right Hon. Gentleman op-
posite (Mr Canning) for bitterness in the manner
he had carried on this question ; but he also was
arraigned by the Right Hon. Gentleman for express-
ing himself with passion in the course of his argu-
ment. Upon this subjea all he could say was, that
be had not a particle of either bitterness or passion
in his heart ; and whether the Right Hon. Gentleman
bad misunderstood him or not, be could not plumed

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to say I tot hiPwreived what he tad said crested
grestwarmth on the part of that Right lion.•Gen-
dement He never condemned Lord Melville for
sending. in his resignation ; be shonld • have consi-
dered,
it a high, aggnoeition of his offence had he •
persevered in holdieggitolEce of First Lord of the
Admiralty a but he thOught His Majesty's Minis-
ters should have laid Wore His Maleety the whole
of the Circumstances. and that he shook' bay.
been distriiped, at least, with „ainse marks of die:
pleasure or disgrace. A parallel had been drawn
between Lord Melville and Mr. Trotter, Which *he
would not then observe upon; but the eesignation of
Lord Melville was not sufficient to satisfy the public;
lhe honour of the I louse of Cornmons. He ha 4
piesnaraived by the Right Hon. Gentleman
itiliseeipeit to his represents' ion of the Noble Lord's
='Sillative to Sir Ch, - - . -
b the year 1795.
head the L,.rd Melville
upon that occasion, nr
Earl St. Vincent were at
Lord fbr his interference.
Grey and Lord Melville were
Grey stood upoh his
stood upon his trial.
thanks to those Noble P
his duty in doing justice .
present case, no arguments
no reply given; and, iron
every part of the House,
maned to preemie thror
dons, and that was. that
. hold any official 'italic' u _-
Crown. The Right Honourable
Pitt) had made a promise -'
again admitted into
His Majesty's Councils
the Kin; may not, at ..e period
his advisers? and what regular
knowing that this promise w3l
to ? Has the Right
communication to His
House ofCommons ? '
him of all the matters ,
From the situation of
extremely anxious not
could again bring the i_
repute. How then was be to _
in conformity with the opinion .
Commons and consioent with his duty ? On the
other night, the greatest anxiety was expressed for
a motion to dismiss Lord Melville from His Ma-
jesty's Councils and presence for ever. On that
very night nonce was given of the Motion for to '
day. His motive for postponing it then was not in :1
contemplation of his Lordship's resignation; it was i
only from the exhausted state of the House after so
long a debase, and nothing else. The Right Hon.
Gentleman (Mr. Pitt) had not up and returned the
Gentlemen on this side would postpone the Motion ;
he knew, by the expression of the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman's countenance at the time, waat be meant,
when he said, that on every account the Motion
should be postponed ; but nothing whatever i.roipsd
from him relative to the resignation of the tsL!-.le
Lord. The public were by no means satisfied r tr.ir
itself had not done the whole which they
bound to in justice, and • 'Ai ty.gr
n Ilhniinr and dignity:- Hata 'Si Tsa
*hole House with him, that NUM& ld
sr be again permitted to hold any effigy
Under the Crown. Something, eluteforet thpuld
he done. It was not for the purpose of futtliet
persecuting Lord Melville, that such a Tote'' as
lobe present was nude; what had already been
.done, must have wrung the feelings of the Noble
Ltie
Lord, if he had any ; this was the only thing which
made him hesitate. If, therefore, it were possible
to state upon the Journals of the House, something
yrhicb might appear regular and consistent with the
proceedings of the House, it was all he thee wished.
IsWith respeel to Lord North's Administration, it Was
pia very different matter ;he resigned at a tins.
when another was appointed in his room. It was
not in consequence of sensor.; it was from political,
principles. Lord Melville was Who smack of the
„list of Privy Counsellors entirely. His Honourable
Friend had been struck off, not from iroproper con-
duit. but from a difkrence in polities froth the Right
Hon. Gentleman opposite; through whose interfer-
ence he had been so punished : but, of that aft, the
Right Hon. Gentleman had repented both to God
and man. Witb raped to the conduit of the Bank
of England, he was happy the Hem Gentleman
(Mr. Thornton) had explained that point, and eis
imputation whatever now rested with that HOll.
Board. He was rejoiced to be told by the Trea-
surer of the Navy. that the business of the ether
night had already conduced to very great amend-
ments 1 that deportation When princi-
pals began to aft themselves, the business
was always better done. Mr. Trotter was dis-
missed, but Mr. Wilson was not. Why not ? The
Commissioners thought daferently, they had stated
his evidence was discreditable; it was not, . .. • ,
becoming in the Right Hon. Gentleman • '
hits in office. Either the Commission
belled him, or he ought not to be continued. co "i
femme, therefore. to the opinion of several ef he
Hon. Friends, and of the House in general, hangetied
to withdraw hie motion, but wished something might
be done to make the proceedings consisteet 1 he
should be sorry now to divide in a minority,
and suffer it to go forth that they were in- -
capable of following up the magnolia of yes-
terday. He had entuired, and found several
precedent! in what he theta wished to propose, • ,
which was. that they should In y the relolotione O'L
of yesterday at the foot of His Majesty's Throne,
without any comment upon them. His Ms- .
jesty having received such information, he was
sure, would follow it up by every necessary aSt on i
his part. and he was confident neither the Right
Honourable Geutlernan opposite, or at y other Ho- ‘:
mutable Member et that House, would objet to
ths mode of proceed; it would, be said, make
t:se proceedings of ilouse consistent, assimeet
the approbation of all parties. H... then moved, ,
" That those kesoluttons should be laid at the boa
of the Throne."
The question was put and cart ied sea. ewe.
He then moved, " That the whole Hosts do wait
upon His Majesty with those rrsolutions "
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The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE 11, --
said, he understand it was the nutlet:in
House to Ity the resolutions before His '
without any comment. .
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y the &Tut lion. Lies=
res.eatat ion of the Noble •
lir Charles Grey and Sakai
r 9.5. ft never entered insole,
ille bad seed a generous pe4
or that Sir Charles Grtrand
e at all obliged to the Nola
nee. The cases ot Sir Chattel
ille were very diferent. ForC:
is own merits, Lord IKet
. When Ms Lordships'
e Personages, he only
lice at that time. Bat, in till
ments whatever had bedn iise4
I, from what had fallen &old
louse, one general eentiniesi
darcassbout the whale itits
that Lead Melville sbettlif
irtfation whatever under' data •
Honourable °endear:an (Ms:
romise that be should not be
• any place of trust, or ini
its; but mild we be sore that
one pitied or other, eleven _
bat regular means harefwada
%anise wUI be always
Hon. Gent. mark ant ta
Is Majesty of the opinion of the
! if so, he nine have infonned
s laid to his Lordshfp's charge.
the sehjee, there e, he Mt
ot to let any thing dip whiclf
e House of Cot:mons into
dis-
ras be to ad upon this occasions
the opinion of the House of