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to tilt itaggert than, he thought theta etc-
treonely useful in time of war, but by no means
so in time of peace, and they might be reduced to-
morrow without the slightest injury to the service,
which aiould effect a saving of 10.0001 a year,
Met 11l ample allowances. If the regiments were
to travel a htsadred miles a yea►, the country
would be paying et the rate of four pounds a mile.
The reduction of the number of battalions which
he desired to see earned into effect, would give a
easing or 59.00e1. annually. With respect to
(Akers .n the Half-pay it was very desirable that
such as were capable should receive employment.
On the Riding School ' he would only

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Peporisk girls of &As NOS if 411111ellbed for that
gesersedis to whir it tout loriiably err OPi this
dad be rust observe, that the pay of a 'military as
VilSi best rime prepsytios to Guiessiteral labour,
earpariag It with the year 170'4 the labourer's
ways was as der to two, whilst the pay of the ast•
Ikea was r Isms to or. The effect of the retro Si
rob parrots had beer to reduce arricallood sod Gilkey
roars from After to tweet'', pee esti. his was
us of these who sowearrai I. the areasity of that hoed
arreskro Voyeur it was), hat be- expected that oiler alts.
✓akes would also tabs phew; sad sow that this depreelatisso
of puree or deo is she value et swory had takes place,
slat pot sea woo there fur lupin op is the civil
illialresols Mrs eraries air allowarer, which
war ismareassil solely eta arras of she sispreelated
-? 110 did notev wish the bet

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„on et rano._ anotwey r _ Wish to bees ww- initearp,
observe now, as he had done before. that it woe he Ad ate deka*. „soup woubt he cow, irrised
some
totally ageless. With respect to the Paymaster les per east. were reduced from the inane* of the civil eata-
General's department it amounted in 1797 to 9,8401. IMehmeete. Wfthisspect te the fame envies eat of the
end new it has apwards of 21,0001. making an LawsaY____!_thilPentee_. white our roles_ iesmight is have was
addition in the present year, as Compared with ZortewarZewc:umwwikawarse
sties,
sZei▪ lls;:a161
eichultesedsinewt so
1797, of 12,0001. The expenses of the Seers- be Warded against say es44sa honitiliset mad is Ilm gnome
tary at Woes Deportment was ie 1797 stellseloo of the worlds he thud hookd to he lediegnochfrom
45,2331., whilst it now amonited to tbis one
esswbelosessreseese
the liwYpiabiedieirwrgeoresseek,
biliery; he aindoreigrsemiseertmes.itnele:
of 133,07 ef• rise in "I",,,riva was 2,4. p been, serees donned by ealreammateapeediesee le was
principal cause of this engaging d nerenCe• s weldbposed to modenaltme the importaaseeflhooolooka; he
officelef Comptroller of Army Accounts amounted, webbelddedded owl went otiorotioi to
es, mimeo
'r
according to the present estimates, tie I 0,64 ti.--. risrlswandelem moldld be Haase tb, mod
that
--lebilet in 1797, according to the Report of the r fgelleadees he mem the heat .saki' ia abeneseildsr their
soneeditare Reda** =pia Its the Ileaeolal- mesa of the
UM= cerllitillf; "ell the &leer' =amber tat Absedees, he meet soy wish
us
ementatel to viz willies, ellettlaye Cagamissioners do sway ut.t. this
ohm _
with Wenn ad 1,0001. pie relhallie. each, end other eedec eldfdb7ed ebto „mkt ustw.warrulleprow, cgs=
persona to assist with salaries, making altogether et pat...arta. like had heard the mole efa trustier?, which
4.470 L were thought fully adequate to the proper seemed le him to be arable? jest No sooner.” mid her
";idoes B.
ie
se. s
_.tornetsy, hat the first thing she does is to
discharge of the duty. Now, with • foreign es-
At fur an tenpin." It was some-
penditare of not more than one million, it was whet dug' :I:: wwwikortiblew
se:
eel force fur she mew Colonies was
tlionght necessary to have these Commissioners with something More than the whole of the force of the old oars
ono , •gaoun til( to 5,0001, and other assistance, before the war. With regard to Malta and the lonics
ether stemming to 12,6441. He called upon -alto !elude, he should have imagined that the magnitude of the
g
garrison at Gibraltar would have precluded the necessity of
his Majesty's Ministers to redeem their pledges of
kee• op a Inge forst tn any other port of the Medlin-
economy cos this *cessions bed permit the present ruest. With respect to the third class, ilre farce at horse,
estimates to go into an iinpenial Committee, for be would make nue or toe enervation before be set dolor.
the panes= of inquiry only. He would suggest It was very dificuk to approach the subject. He must be
that the Committee should consist of six person', a very segaesese mem who could name the iumouot of (wee
to be chosen front among those Gentlemen who I:=llrbees for ""6"118e traollaiigil
. Go(areateounastrylthelowettledasimbers
ntetlly were, accordingas
supported the Noble Lord, and six others ... yeen
is the NobletLord's own statement, he
who were attached to no party. Such would he wash' he bold to asp that if the ry,tetat were persevered is
the coastitetiou of the Committee which he should of meeting the complaints of the people with fresh
prosaic, and he shoSld imagine that to that pro- restrains, of treads, public °plan with studied cos.
out eyes the great force at present es foot,ar,
pont. there could be little opposition—at ell tempt,
it was, would be found solkint for the trammillity of the
events his Majesty's Ministers were the lint per- toiletry. Let the House look a little to the history of the
sons who ought to oppose inquiry. 11,000 asemasho had been added to the regular force with
The question was then put. and the gallery suet, been that the ceenCr.! of. Peasant was, sot
pertly cleared for a division, when— ever oirmieed, Slid for the disbanding of whom Minis.
Mr. DAWSON rose. He said, that although he
lees now
whim the largest body of cenc. now took se much credit. "'hey were
who
embeawiedhadet
eras note of those who had for the last six or seven •
ewer resembled together were dispersed by sheet forty ot
years supported the measures of his Majesty's Go- in, raw ri,s,„ory and, eetwodiet„dtoc every "ewe.
%eminent, as conceiving them best calculated to lion had bees gives, they were dispersed without resistance.
support the true interests of the country, yet on this If that had been aa experiment to slaw the. extent of the
siemens he must declare that it was a &lesion asuppose there Wetiewes sad forbears*" of the people, it might hive besm
could be any other remedy fee the distresses of the country said to have fairly 'hewn it, or if it had been celestial/dm stew
sties eto, moot rigid et.91„,..7-1„„ would go farther, sad use bow far a usumber of mew in the garb of soldiers, without
the word parsimony. From the 11•40 Of asperity with which their Ithwilstkeo •••W be effective to eioPerm as slisrlwed
debates la that House were essrlactod, he then= that a re- assemblage, that also might hove here isle le base hem
Sommeadatiou fur creamily woe/dense with better effect from abysm by it I but it was aeallSeaSal of the Miakeen to at-
the side of the Hone on which he sat; he should content leapt to drew from that the necessity of a Mager army.
himself with ;hong that recommendation la simple Isneusge, BY the loyal delmsses published ie the Geseffes it woe's'
nevem lhi asperity so the geodesic's se the other side. appear that online and blasphemy were sulking &breeds
With regret to the mimes" wow before two, be ihrestealeg IMAM/Nth* of oar meet valued rights; and
did Hsieh that 1,110,9M1L was tee great a sees is be et loch a crisis what die he Majesty's Ministers? Hod they
ilia-end on the seamy. It was so evens is Oiler a saving added Is tb heft a gibite•oool? /4*; they had disbanded
could be teen easily made, sad is the mown state of our these 11.000 me. ellea libel had embeds" user the Me-
Ansers,With an canaille, actually ineedieg our locum, emseswese width be had described, ewe had tam Vow
there was no part in which be *humid see a redaction with meet to themselves fee thew ectiesteY• Passing ewer
so inch pleasure. He believed that, with respect to that • great mewl other points, he weeld mem to time
country with which he was beat acquainted (Ireland), for which, though of • delicate salmis he wield who co-
"which la the estimates there was a forte of 10,778 son : frisk *ow westatill• Ife alluded Se that Pbstlememe iw
be believed in that a great redgetime could be guide, as he She Police of this emisitels witheard of et any resins Pe-
Was lialy persuaded that country yammerer is a more trim- 'loft, totally imeastesiebie with ell British panes, and
quit state than at the present momeat. Met if say discontent trending to destroy that confidence which ought so sobebo
should exist there, the Goverment had • moth better means between the geranium and the governed. Few were the ho-
of putting it down, by the well organised police establish- manes in whin the detonate of the potpie had draws
meat which they had, rather Shia by military force; and, to any *achieves* head, bet whenever it had, a morel and
beside* the police, there was a tame sod efective force of sowsleseript ashen we, always (hero- It was possible a
yeomanry. Unless the large regular force was kept up for opy or laformer might be conciseness, but them were
preserving the letterset trauquillity of the canny, for what telettg•tore is direct e•Walnimicatioa with Goverment.
purpose was kept? It surely mita wt he with way view The Committee of Finance felt it to he their duty
to war, for our financial embarrassments were sack that we to represent that there were persons who had es.
could mot go to war. If our orickb„rw, Yy way ogres. twanged those design which they were only authorised to
eon, shooed force us ion that messese, he hoped we should aspect ; blot the Report of that Committee hod on pet
derail upon our mural streurk, and who we time e„o_ down the system, and a case which occurred • short lime
natal eeowesteue which had already tweet,„ u. „ deeply . sacs In • Court of Jesiiee fitted every use with horror.
He load still MOPS meet reasons for window to see • most He alluded to the ease of Franklia—out that he bad as idea
rigid anon of ocorsomy adopted. NO • day poised but I °rimy connexion between hive and Goverment, bet it was
Petah'', were ;wanted emenplainiag of distress, The not surprising, after what they led seem, if penny nit of
11600 from" Birmingham tiestebeed a most eleree;ac &ter,: I doors could me Wog themselves to that enchain. Whose
the factories he Madordshire were i•• Mate Mill more dis. they saw • platens., a moo of information and lidi•wirdte
brewing. He could take upon himself ea sant that trade of the *Grier so little hornet the &wheel of his blairety's
never was is a mere eapresperess condition Mew at present, I Ministers as to carry to es horrid as extent that ediees sad
all which was setensowitibm the to•doftatation under which °evens's* s/etemi it slight be easily conceived thee same would
the eeeeen; creeeed, (Hear, um.) me bed beard with creel down. la looking to the estimates ovi Hatable, he thought he
Qom ;be geepece whir); had bees bell we that Heim with could perceive tiny were trained nth • view to resuming mill.
respect to the estiosal debt. He would goon rather sub- lag operatiems os the Cootinest, and those suspicions were
mit to soy rodoefin of axpenditese this. Hoffer Ref ;,,,_ coadessedhysome wordeahich dropped from the Noble Lord:
putatirm epos the sateen faith. He kw; beard the fund. bevAte.lileedeaatil)distieetly protested against the possibility,
holder called is that House a geometer of essasumption. The and thought no Minister would du his duty who did mat dis-
own' which was spreading out ordain, eveltieg from suck radian his soled the possibility °fres'. wing military opera-
'Pel'ehut was of a nature to plenie this line country its all noes on the Conine. He thought the Noble Lewd (Castle.
the horrors of a civil contact. Thrstioc as he did that a reagb) bad been too much abroad atoll ass coutatt with forams
large military force was an useless an expensive hordes, he Statesmen. With all his respect fur that Noble Lord he must
should have been glad if the Estimates had been some mil- say of him, that he 'bought him spoiled fur a Briti. h puliticiao.
boom lees than they were. If the ameadmeist were rejected, he should feel it his duty to
Mr. MACDONALD complinseuted the last 'posher npon move • reduction on those estimstea of 10,000 mew.
the manly avowal which he had made of hie musirmats. Mr. C. GRANT said he rejoiced ezeeedingly to hear it
lie (Mr. Alacilunald) came dowel frilly impressed with the imbed by his Hon. Friend behind him, 0101 Ireland was per.
important speech of the lion. Member for Aberdeen which fectly tranquil. He rejoiced to hear ,his from his Honour-
be bad delivered • few sighs, ago, and he must say that able Friend, because some uine ur ten months ago be heard
'rushing which he bad beard since he had entered the House something very different from him. He remembered the
had at all changed that inspresoion. How areseriofse. dennuciellons he hurled at his (Mr. C. G.'s) head, because he
tory was it year after year to listen to the same offirial I bad dared to hope that the necessity would nut lung cuntisne
but ddweivt apologies for the peat expenditure of the for so large • military establishment is Ireland. He 'einem-
country. He bad followed the Noble Lord's unstressed with bored well his predictions; and he renumbered also first if
the greatest anention, and having dune so, he professed I those predictions had hail the elect which he jut, ailed, they
he could est see any reams to join him iii that tone of would sow out only have been called 4111 not to reduce the
see(-gratmeties whirls he had assumed. The Noble Lord I establishment there, but such would have he; n the state of
had tilted of savings, but as compared with the years law is which that country world have toe° placed, that it
1818, 1519, and 1810, there had been • trifling recess rather would at this time have required double the establishment.
tbaa a reduction. He wee glad so find that the Noble Lord I (Hear, bear!) After a winter passed in that weak mod de-
bad referred to the eetimates of 179-2, because some lull. fencelen stale, as it was then called, with a population ready
time ago he recollected the Noble Lord said the House to burst fortis into open inearrection, his Hun. Friend sow ad.
might as well refer to the time of the 54111.114 Heptarehy, as milted that Ireland was perfectly tranquil. (Ifiror,keur!) He
to the year 1791. but the Nub!e Lord had referred to them I agreed with hisHon.Friend that it was ins state of tranquillity,
with • very ill grace; lie asked, would they wish to go bark all cud Ihei aro,. it was that he a isheit to see withdrawn that
at once to the year 1791 ? But no person cm that side of the I system of restraint end coercion which had tuo long been
house had reeprested auy such thing, all that bad been asked was practised there; therefore it was that the establishes( ant had
that a gradual but steady •ppruxinsation should he made to been reduced 3,000 men for this year; and therefore it was
the Estimates of that year. The Noble Lord allowed that that be looked forward to a still further gradual reduction of
the expeuse of the eirll establishment bad increased, but, he the force in that country —(Hear, hear.)—He proceeded to
contended, the busiueaa was better done. He complained of j observe, that the difference'', the duty in which the military
31ernbers corniug down to make motions fur quires of papers, were employed in Ireland, from that which they were here
but if she Noble Lord would follow the suggestions which I required to perform, required a comparatively larger force to
had been thrown out, the quires 'would WWI be reduced to • be kept sup; he still looked forward with confidence to fur-
few sheets. He would trouble the House with a very I tber reductions at no great distanre of time. If his Hon.
leo observation on the three heads under which the Friend really thought so deeply of the canoes which affect
Noble Laird bad divided the subject. The first head the stale of Ireland, he called en him not to strip short with
was the half pay, mid allowances fur past services. It I barely recommending the reduction of the military force in
Was manifest that that was a breach less liable to rr- thst country, but to go with him in slur discussion of the
beat
than any other; whether she regulations were the measure which was shortly to come on, of a measure more
t which could have been adopted, It was now too late to closely connected with its feelings, and to let them hove his
tiwir.e. They had bees adopted, an God forbid that we vole for Ireland on that measure, which would go far to re-
' silo sot beep faith with ;bees who bad shed their blood, tone the necessity, even for the present Neale of its military
and Lad ,'seended the best portion of their lives in the ter- , Stablishatesse.—(Lead cheers,
.folleared by repeated col 4
owe or thew country. Real and substantial retreuchaeut of " Quer/in! question ! Wit Ads so! withdraw!")
was the eine mode by shish faith mold he kept, not only his H. VIVIAN said it was impossible not to observe
with theme, but all ether deseripeione d Pulltie -emitters. upon the limasissisteacy of Gestlemen, who one night
There was a painful and diffieult.pert of the, sieb}oet, hot it would persuanthe Minstry to interfere le the mearvela of
ought to be alluded to, if it were only fur the purpose of other Dolmas, sad the next eight wished to deprive them of