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HOUSE oFcOMMONS.

Mr. MAmmtnia moved, tjitt OA Account be laid
before the House of all silver bullion imported into
Great Britain, from the 18th of March, 1793, to the
31st of December, 1803, and the respeCtive dates
of its coinage.—Ordered.
The Order of the Day being read, that John
Dtyman be brought to the Bar of the House, and he
being brought to the Bar, the Sprat t a reprimald•
ed hint, in the name of the House, for his condui
n his office, in the return for the borough of Lis.
keard ; after which, he ordered hint to be discharged,
on paying the fees.
Sir J.lats Kate t presented a Pe:ition from certain
Merchants of Yrsighal, in the count. of Cork,
against the Corn Laws.—Ordered to be laid on the
1 able.

Lord Massaar reported from the Middlesex
Committee. that William Ilif, a Wham, had been
guilty of gross misbehaviour that day. and that he
was committed to the custody of the Serjeant at
Arms. His Lordship then moved, ~ That the said
William flit ,tand committed, and that the Sericite
at Arms take him before the said Committez, when,
tad so often, as may be required by them."

The Irish Linen Bill was brought in by Mr.
FosTee, read the first time; and ordered to be read
the second time to-morrow.

A Message was brought from the Lords, saying
their Lordships had agreed to the Irish Public Ac-
counts MN, wahout amendment.

The Cottou Manufadares Bill was read the second
time, and ordered to be committed on Tuesday next.
Colonel STANLEY said, he should 14y claim to be
heard on this Bill, in a future stage of it.
The Bill for empowering the sale of Bast India
prize goods at Liverpool, was read the first time,
and ordered to be read the second time to-morrow.
Leave was given to bring in a Bill ror suspending
the penalties in the IV oollen Trade, on the motion
Of Mr. HENRY LASS ELLES.

The Report of the Committee on the Cora Trade
was received, and ordered to be taken intoconsidera-
tion, on Tuesday next.
Mr. WHITBREA D stated, that the papers con-
cerning the Lord Advocate of Scotland w.:re nut
yet arrived ; but as they were daily expelled, and
would not be balky, and migiat soon be printed, he
%voted row give notice that, on to-morrow se'rinigar,
he would bring forward a motion on the subje3.
Mr. FOSTER gave notice, that, on Wednesday,
in the Committee of Ways and Means, he should
bring forward a motion respeßing the financial si-
tuation of Ireland.
ADDITIONAL FORCE BILL.
This bill being recommitted ;
Mr. JOHNSTONE objeßed to the clanse which
levied a fine on parishes, whose proportion of men
was not raised within 40 days after the next meet-
ing of the Lieutenancy of the county. ":',se de-
ficiency in the quotas fur the Army of Reserve was
not for want of exertion to get the men, but for
want of men. But if men could not be obtained at
a bounty of 401. how could the Right Hon. Gen-
tleman suppose they would be got for a reduced
bounty of seven guineas ? lie entreated the House
to consider what they were about to do. They were
going to impose a fine on parishes for not doing
what practice had proved could not be done, and
what was confessed to be impossible. He would
wish, therefore, the time to be extended, if so ab-
surd a thing must be done of levying a fine at all on
the parishes not finding men. But he conceived
the bill to be wholly u.B xorthy the talents and cha-
racter of the Right lion. Gentleman.
Mr. PUT denied, that men were net to be had.
The Army of Reserve Bill had raised in ten months
31,758 men, being only abut 2,000 less than the
amount voted. This deficiency, considering the
shortness of the time in which that large force was
raised, he contended to he small. The present de-
ficiency was to be distinguished from that. It arose
from three causes. The number of men discharged ;
those who have died in the course of nature; and de-
sertion. The latter was the principal cause ; owing to
the high bounties, which tempted men to desert,
and enter into other Corps. And he would observe,
by the way, that the Army of Reserve Bill not oily
raised the great number of men he had stated, in so
short a time; but it was clear they were of a prosier
and effellual kind, from the comparatively small
number of those who were discharged, and those
who died. The desertions being the principal cause
of the present deficiency, in the Army of Reserve;
and hivh bounties being the cause of those deser-
tions, this Bill was the more necessary to put an end
to this mischief. He contended, that the shortness
of time given by the Bill, before the penalty at-
tached, was necessary to give an early ojseration to
the Bill. The cry, that the Army of Reserve Bib
had wasted out its strength, he contended to be a
mere prejudice. Since December last, si.;ce the
time when it was said the AR did no more towards
raising men, it had aßtially obtained 4,000 men.
He therefore thought there ought to be no fear en-
tertained of getting men, whets high Isthmuses and
competitions are removed.

Mr. WINDHAM said, the Right Hon. Gentle-
man seemed to have adopted the opinions of the
ancient Britons, who believed they succeeded to all
the virtues of the enemy they killed; and therefore
gave the House a history of the wunderful effeas of
the Army of Reserve Bill, passed under the Admini-
stration ofhistiefeatedantagonist. He denied that men
could now be got for the Hight Hon. Gentleman's
low bounties, while the memory of past high boun-
ties remained. As to few men being discharged from
the Army of Reserve, as unfit to serve, he would
not allow that as any proof that the Bill obtained
proper men with all the enormous bounties it (Tr ited.
The inspeaing o:ficers aded under great difficuttiv,
and were obliged to take men rejeaed by the Regu-
lar service. The fart was well known. As to the Rt.
Hon. Gentleman's argument, founded On the few
men that had died of the Army of Reserve, it would
prove too much. It was well known to what sources
of vice, of disease, of want, the crimps were nblif:ed
to go, in order to get their m.-n for that. arils,,.
Thee it wind appear, from this a-..Turnent. that the
way of Lie he alluded to *as conducive to health.
The /Light Hon. Gen,leman had accused some (;en.
tiemen of being friends to the crimping trade. But
this BiU perpetuates crimping, is nog.uory without
it, and all that was said was, that therefore it ought
to be regulated. As to the presets. clause, it pre-
sumes delinquency, and levies a fine for not perform.
ing
After a long conversation, the clause was agreed
to without a division.
Sir WILLIAM YOUNG obj.-aed to the clause
which empowers inspectors general to appoint per-
sons to assist the deputy lieutenants in making their
return. He said it gave an improper ct.ntroul over
the d•pnty lieutenants, to whom the country had its.
finite obligations. •
Mr. JI.KYL said, the House was indebted to the
Hots. Baronet, for his observations. The person to
whom this contras' was to be given, was an uncon-
stitutional creature, r rise) up by the Inspeaor-G•-
neral ; and that this Inspeaor-General, with such
Powers. would be more properly called an Inquisi-
tet-qmeral. 'Lie clause was a slander on the De-

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puty-Lieutenants ; who, having been already tor-
mented and agitated by the Bills for the National
Defence, and doing their duty faithfully, are now
to be disgraced.
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said, he wished
the Honourable Baronet and his Learned Friend
I read the clause before they argued it. There
was no controul given to the Officer to be appointed
by the Inspetot-General ; he was only to atteild the
Deputy-Lieutenants, and assist, if a>ked, in making
the returns.

Sir WILLIAM YOUNG said, be had read the
cl ause-,-and it gave the worst sort of coetroul to those
officers he complained ask placedlltem as Govern,.
Inept over the deputy lieutenants.
Mr. Rof.lb: said, he had for many years aged as
a Deputy Lieutenant, and never sat on that daty
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whhouvone or more officers of the Crown being
present. He asserted, the Deputy Lieutenants
would be glad to have the assistance of the officers
in tusestiow.
hall TEMPLE said, of all the measures of this
detcsl4ble Dill. 44 is seas the most obje:tionable, and
which he seprolsated of all others. If any thiii
had ben wanting to nuke him determined in Ms
opposition to it, the defence of the Gentlemea oppo-
site was sufficient ; and, if this measure must be
forced down their throats, he hoped, at least, they
wculd nut have the azgravatcd insult of such
another defence. If these officers were to have
no contraul, why send them down to the meet. I
logs of the Deputy Lieutenants? Oae of the,
Honourable Gentlemen says (Mr. Rose), th 3 De-
puty Lieutenants will be glad to have their a‘..-
sistance. Little does he know of the honour or
worth of those 1-aluable men, who are to be placed
at the mercy of an Inspeeor General, since he may,
if he pleases, appoint his footman, or a corporal to,
this duty. He considered them merely as spies of
Government; to degrade and overawe the Deputy.,
Lieutenants.
Mr. PITT said he did not give credit to the de..
claratidn with which the Noble Earl opened ; for
he believed he would oppose ev, ry other measure' ;r
of the Bill with the same profession df its bein,, the.
worst, and in the same spirit. Much warmth was
displayed in speaking of the person to be appointed
b, time Inspeaor General. I* no d,,ubit would be
a re•pectable military man, with whom the Noble
E..i, the proudest man in the ki.igdifion, need
r.ui tie ashamed to a.‘l. The clause isiid not call cp4
the Deputy Lica:auats to an under di ..e r,ffict:rs,
but ouly to receive all information for th‘lir aunt-
ance, and then decide.

Si; WILLIA M objek9rd strongly,
to the kind of officer crested by the clause, as 3 1)1W
creature, unknown to the constitution.

After much conversation, the cls use was agreed to.
On the clause empowering Commanding Osfizers
to discharge men, wise !Limit become unserviceable.
after having been accepted-and e.irolled, being read ;
Mr. IiLLISON rose to tsbjeci to it. lie .ass's
this Bill was not a levy, bat a tax. It had brag
said, on many occasion-, what is the s::c tinaw of
war ? The answer was M net. What i: the se:
cold sinew ? Money. What is the third sinew t
Nioney. So with raped to this Bill it seemed not
to be a levy, bet a pa. Men did not seem to he
the a j,R, but money._ He particulaey uojeded to
the Commanding Othcer ha.ing a power to dies
charge men, without havin;. as in the.c ale of ;bt
Militia and Army of Reset ve, the concurrence-4r
the Deputy Lieutenants. The Commanding Of-
ficer had, by the present elapse, a power to clic.-
charge a man at his own discretion, and to enFit
another in his stead, by which he might millet, the
parish, by which such man was sent, to a fine et
WI. ; if the parishes were compelled not to rive
more than 71. 10s. per man; aad in case of not
raising their quota, within a limited time, were
liable to a fine of 201. which a Cammandiag
fitter might fix upon them whenever he p:essed ;
whereas. according to the Militia and Army or
'Reserve Ads, an man could be discharged without
the certificate and concurrence of the Ipialrtleaeres
tenants, added to that of the Commanding
This argument was supported by Mr. Fox, Mr.
SHERIDAN, Air WiLLralt Yut:NG, and Mr. 6111i.Y.
Mr. Pier,_ Mr. CANNLEIG, Sir JOHNaUTT
LLY, and Mr. W. Di,mn•s,_on the coatrary, Maia-
tained, that the Executive Government was inter-
cued is this power not being abused by command.
ing officers ; that cominandlitg office s acted at their
peril, at the risk of charades, and evert thing that
was dear to them, and that in use of met' being dis-
chatged as unserviceable, the parish was to raise
the substitute, if they could, within a fixed tires
and if not, then oily were they to br subjet to
That as to the sum of lbs. there was no sego-
lation to that effea. Parishes were only to br con-
fined to three-fourths of the bounty :gloved for ye-
cruiting the Regid sr Army; be that :AUL it mielie„
and if men were, diseharzed, try wcr• tn be is..
plated in the same way as those prig tt.sily enlisted..
Mr. FOX answered, that he could net suppose
any Commanding Officer.would aft from caprices
or any unworthy motive; mist were, however. but
men ; add he thought Parliament should take fare
not to put it in any Commanding Ol:e4's power to
suhieft counties to a fine by there means.
the clause passed without a division.

The different clauses in the Bill being read throne: s
Mr. SHERIDAN said he w•ishedto know vine—
cher this Rill was meant to extend to Ireland?
Mr. PITT answerei that it was his intentions°
bring in a separate Bill for Ireland; because the
mode of raising the men there would be different
from what it would be in Great Britain.
The House being resume.l. the Report was or-
dered to be received to-nsorrow.
Mr. JOHNSTONE moved, that there be Ilia
before the House an Account of the Number r f
Men wanting to complete the Army of Reserve
the Militia Regiments in the different Co nines r-
Grea t Britzin ; speci4ing the numbers santirg to'
make up the quotas of each connty.—Ordcred. A
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