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they proceeded to legiakte when the Catholic population had in.
creased prodigiously and now automated to one-third of the whole
population.of this kingdom—if they proceeded to legislate with
temerity, and withemt having made any proper introduction, he
repeated, that he feanklaucli an Act would endanger the peace of
this country and of Ireland. 11: had heard from public rumour,
but coukl not say whether it was true, that the Orangemen of Ire-
' land meant tir propose, awns measure calculated to inixigate party
• rancour iti that comity,. If this report had any ioundation, he
hailed such an intenftein with unaffected joy, as a most favourable
omen. He was glad to hear of such an intention, as it afforded de-
cisive evkleree that the roads and animosities which were known to
exist in Ireland weee already moderated in some degree. Under
any arrangement witch might be entered into, he hoped the Ca-
tholics of Ireland trould he put in possession of their civil rights
and privilege.. The Roman Catholic Clergy hail been assailed in
some quarters, but there was the testimony of a man who ought to
know them well, he intact the Attorney.Oeueral of Ireland, and
he trail described thou as an exemplary body of men, entitled to the
highest praise. They were also acquitted of entertainirg any views
as to the possession of tithes. He wished that his Majesty's Mi.
:ileitis would stare their determination with respect to the Protestant
Establishment of Ireland. After die discrepancies of opinion which
obtained regarding this establishment, some precise account of its
situation would be extremely desirable. At all events, he trusted
that the spirit °lead conciliation wouli be Inchd in view, a spirit
which he was confident would be productive of the greatest benefit
to Ireland.

The Dill was then reed a third ticna and-passed, without a

The House adjourned at Eight o'Clock.
HOUSE OF COMMONS, Moxpsv, ALtacm 7.
LEITH DOCKS BILL.
Mr. WM. DUNMAS moved the second reading of the Leith
Docks Bill.
The Bill was read a second time, and committed.
GRAVESEN. AND WROTHAM ROAD BILL.
On the motion of Rt. JOHN BRYDQES, this Bill MU read •
second time, and committed.
LONDON DOCKS.
Mr. Johnson presented an Account of the Receipts. and Dis-
bursements of the Leads% Decks Company, from November 30,
IW, to November SO,
ROTH EReITHE DOCKS.
On the motion et Mr. T. WILSON. the Ratberhithe Docks
Bill was read a second time, and committed.
ST. CATHERINE'S DOCKS.
Sir FRANCIS OMMANNEY presented a petition from Barn-
staple in favour of the St. Catherine's Docks.—Ordered la lie on
the table.

CANDLE DUTIES.
Mr. SYKES' presented a petition from the city of Edinbargh,
praying for the reveal of the Duties on. Candles.—Ordered to be
printed.
'CATHOLIC ASSOCIATION.
Mr. JOHN 'Sit !TB presented a petition from a parish in lie-
land against the Iti:1 foe putting down the Catholic Association.— i
Ordered to be printed.
CATHOLIC. EMANCIPATION.
Mr. SPRING RlCBtpesented two petitions in favour of Ca-
tholic Emancipation. The Hon. Member said that one of the
petitions was signed by three Protestant clergymen. (Hear. hear.)
The petitioners declared that nothing could effectually serve Ireland
unless Emancipation weas.granted. They also begged to represent
to the house the great service rendered to Ireland by the Catholic
Association. The Hon. Member wished, in common with the pe-
ti Li onert. to bear testimony to the growing feeling of the Protest-
ants of Ireland in favour of Emancipation. (Hear, hear.) One of
the petitions was from the town and county of Galway. The peti-
tioners stated that they represented the feelings of thirty thousand
Catholics of the county of Galway. The other petition we under-
stood to'be from Gort.—erdered to be printed.
Mr. GRATTAN patented similar petitions from Mullitipr
and New Ross.--Ordered to be printed.
ASSESSED TAXES.
Mr. CURTEIS presented a petition from Brighton, praying far
the repeal of the Assessed Taxes.
Mr. LINDSAY presented a similar petition from Perth. The
petition also prayed for a reduction of the Fire Insurance Duties.—
, the petitions were ordered to be printed.
COUN_TY COURTS BILL.
General GASCOYNN. presented a petition from John %%11-
' Lams, of Liverpool. in favour of the County Courts Bill.
Sir O. ROBINSON presented a similar petition arum iVellen-
borough.—The petitions were ordered to be printed.
STANDING ORDERS.
Mr. S. WORTLEY moved the following ReMlution :—" That
the House do not receive any petition on a private Bill, referring
solely to the compliance or non.compliance with the Standing Or-
ders after said Bill shall have been read a first time."
Mr. CURWEN seconded the Resolution. _ .

Mr. SYKES mentioned a case that occurred that day, which he
thought made the Resolution neeesaary.
Mr. W. PEEL invited any Hon. Member who doubted the in-
convenience of the present system, to attend the Manchester and
Liverpool Railway Committer then sitting
Lord MILTON atmegltopposed the Resolution. If it agreed ;
to the promotarg any privatl7lBl, they would merely have to burry
on the first reading as fast as was consistent with the Orders of the
House, and then all complaint would be put an end to.
Mr. S. WORTLEY mid a few words in explanation. We un-
derstood the Hon. Member to say that any objections may be con-
sidered in the
_general Committee on the
Lord MILTON resumed. Who were the persons that went
before the Standing Order Committee? Solely the promoters of
the Bill ; and yet, on the showing of these persona, the Committee
reported that the Standing Orders had been complied with. The
Noble Lord concluded by declaring his opposition to the Resolu-
tion, from a conviction that too early a limit would be placed by
it to the time for petitioning.
Mr. W. DUNDAS was opposed to the Resolution. The Hon.'
' Member, in answer to the explanation of the lion. Mover of the
Resolution, said, that no question of the Stinding Orders could be
brought before the Committer on the Bill.
Mr. CALCRA FT was strongly opposed to the Resolution. If
the House should agree to it, its effect would be to make the Com-
mittee decide on the e.r-parts statements of the persons interested is
carrying the Bill through. The lion. Member made some further
observations in support of his view of the subject.
Mr. LITTLKFON was in favour of the Resolution. If time
were given after the first reading, lie was of opinion that it would
be employed perhaps in getting astute lawyers to find frivolous and
vexatious objections to the Bill.
After a few words from Mr. CROKER, the Resolution was put
from the Chair, and agreed tly
BUTTER TRADE Or IRELAND.
_ _ .

Sir H. PARlNThLEg;vl7notleTe (a; 11euncrtriMed) of a motion
for to-morrow with refpect to the butter trade of Ireland.
SMALL DEBTS ACT.
_ . . .

On the motion of Lord A. HAMILTON, the Bill to regulate
the Recovery of Small Dabs in Scotland was read a second time.
and ordered to Le printed.
NVEIGHTS AND MEASURES.
_ _

The Bill to iegTilatel44iiilitsanclleasures;u read a third
time, And passed.
GAME. LAWS.

Mr. S. WORTLEY moved the second reading of the Game
Laws Bill. The Hun. Member, after some prefatory remarks,
said that he was convinced some radical change must take place in
the present system; there had been sufficient time allowed to con-
sider the proposed measure, which was intended to remove some of
the most odious of the present laws. He begged the House to
dismiss from their mods their old prejudices, and tyke proper
steps to remove these laws; -which for the ',enjoyment of a few,
pressed with great weight on the rest of the country. He requested
die House, it they agreed in the principle of the proposed measure,
not to object, at the present stage, to the clauses of the Bill, as an
opportunity for that purpose would be afforded at another time.
The Hon. Member proceeded to say, that the first and greatest
evil springing from the laws as they then stood, was the increase of
poachers. (Hear, hear.) To them it was owing that the gaols
were crowded to excuse. A Mew peculiarity attended the practice
of poaching, in the eye of the law ; it was looked on as highly
criminal, whilst it was considered no violation of the moral law,
and that feeling was pleVass generated by the severity of the laws.
Twas rue it that only Poachers were punished, and yet he was sure
that every Gentleman in the kingdom, at one time or another, con-
travened them; the ides was now given up that the purchase of
game q As not C 04101410 ja jou mist loss; 504 admit was the
effect of those laws, thus rendered nugatory ? Need he ask any
person acquainted with the dreadful scenes of every day's occur-
rence ? if asked why patching has become so prevalent, he would
answer, that it arose from a change in the system of sporting;—
their ancestors were content when they had game enough to give
them amusement, but gentlemen now-a-dos wallet satiafied unless
they heard their guns go of pop pop every modient (a laugh). In
former days gentlemen went down to their country seats to enjoy a
proper share of sporting, and to indulge in all the hospitality of the
unies; but modem sportsmen must at least kill 100 pheasants each
every day they go out. The tete t of the proposed law would be
not to diminish the quantity organic, though if it were he uw no
reason against the Bill, unless lit could be persuaded that for''
the purpose of possessing it laws,were to be continued and scenes
occurring at which mankind revolted. (hear, hear.) The object
of the Bill, in the first plat* was to open the market for game,
and to take the monopoly out of the hands of the poacher. An.
other part of the Bill would apply to the qualifications. The only
qualifications at present were hereditary or freehold property of
IOUL, era lesulold property of 13111.** year. It was also neces-
sary to take out a game certffibte: that was in itself no qualifica-
tion; it was merely a certain tax imposed by Government on thane
otherwise qualified. How, then, were those who had no qualifica-
tion to kill game? Why by a glorious contrivance, namely,
by a right derived front their progenitors; and there was even
a large portion whose eldest eons only could shoot. Thus,
these wise sages of antiquity not only reserved to themselves
the privilege of shooting, but likewise the great advantage of
begetting shooters. (A laugh.) The Honourable Gentleman
proceeded to say, that if a spy were to go round the country,
Inc would find more than one half of the persona in the habit
of killing game, liable to be fuied. There was no younger
son that may not be fined ; and even his own, he was convinced,
subjected himself to a penalty frequently in the course of the year.
But it so happened, that if the father dies the tons lose the right ;
be they ever so much in love with it, the moment the father dies
they must cease to shoot. Another anomaly in the existing law
was, that it did not admit gentlemen of Ireland or Scotland to kill
game in England, no matter how large may he their property.
He might ask them to his house—he might take them throuith his
preserves—he might show thorn his game, and yet if they tired a

single shot they became liable to a penalty. (Hear, hewn) It was
idle to suppose that the people of England, in their present state.
could remain satisfied with these aws; they might, indeed, if
there were but two classes in the country—if there were no inter-
mediate rank betweeu the aristocracy and the peasant. But as
society was then constituted, such a monopoly could not he per-
mitted longer to exist. A principal objection to the alteration in
the law was, that it destroyed the rights of the Lord of the Manor.
If the Lord of the Manor had any right, that right remained ; but
he denied that he ever had that right (hear, hear), except over a
common, and.even that he was not supposed to have until the 2fal
and 23d of Cheiles 11. gave him the power of appointing a game.
keeper. How many Lords of 3lanun had no ground at all within
Mien manor; the only advantage they enjoyed was the appointment
of a game-keeper; and suppose a man, as the law now stood,
going on the Lord of the Manor's suriund to shoot, is followed by
the keeper,•and he refuses, after being followed for the entire day,
to give his name; or if the name be given, and an action brought
for the trespass, and that the Lord of the Manor gets a verdict. he
still has three or four times snore to pay than the trespasser. The
Hots Gentleman went on to say, that he proposed to make such
alterations in the present hes as to leave out all the rubbish—all
those odious enactments that were constantly creating ill-blood in
the country—laws that were not the means of preserving game, for
that could be effeeied sufficiently without them. Wu it not a
serious grievance, that an individual should have his preserves
stocked with game, that they should feed on his neighbours, and yet
that la is n eigh Liours, who supported them, dare r.ot uicddle with them?
The evil thus far weighed heavily on the small proprietors, and it was
not strange they should feel (to say the least of ir) not hostile to the
te.lier ; it was not strange that one of the fruits of the system should
bealeagne between then and the poacher, and that they should feel
a little pleasure at seeing the great proprietor tricked by the
poachers. The lion. Member, after some further observations,
said, that the objection to Game's being property were then so
thread-bare that he did not expect to hear them urged any further.
It was asked by some what species' of property was that which
was here to-day and off to-morrow ; his answer was—fish. it was
allowed by all, was property, and yet fish was just as vagrant as
game. Well, then, say they, if it be ptoperty, how protect it up-
less yen make it triony to steal? But there was nu inconsistency in
making game property, and yet taking the stealing of it out ef felony.
The House had many instances of similar proceedings; for instance,
Pillielos were private property, and the stealing of them was not fele-
Pious. ft had been said that France was an instance of the impropriety
of permitting this general privilege to destroy game. LT ndouldedly,
as tar as he had seen, there was not so much pone in France as in
England—but why ? Why, because they were not able to make
such sacrifices to preserve it. The gentry and landholders would
not spend such enormous sums in those extensive preserves, which
formed at once the boast and the bane of England. (Hear. hear.)
Lest of all, it had been said, that the pinking of game property
would increase the number of shooters. Did Honourable Gentle-
men recollect that there must be a game certificate—that there
must be leave to shoot—that they must procure the leave of the,
servaut or tenants before they could enter upon the ground for the
purpose of sporting. At present many, no doubt, take leave
au commit that trespass ; but it would be otherwise if the
Audi proprietors had an interest in the protection of their pro-
perty—if they could indict for a trespass, in case of any attempt to
invade it; and although he would not rest his arguments for this
measure upon such a ground, as whethir there would be a few
more shooters. or a few less, yet he would venture to give it as his
opinion, that there would be no increase of the number of sports.
men. There was one other argument, the most powerful of all,
with a certain class, he meant ins tendency of this unlimited right
of sporting to destroy those fox-coven, which it was so mach their
interest to preserve. He hail a greet respect for the admirers of
that sport, but he begged to deny their position ; foxes, they would
tied, would be as plentiful as ever. He had now gone over all the
objections he had ever heard of, but be was still !menu conviction,
if any thing could be advanced from the other side in addition to
what he had already heard. No one could deny that the sale of
game was now prevaletit, in spite of all the Acts and penalties they
had issued forth in prohibition of it. The mono., therefore, they
put an end to all the frauds, perjuries, and crimes produced by the
evasion of the law the better. Let them make that legal, which
they all knew was hourly done, although it was illegal, and this
happy object would be affected at once. They had been told they
would encourage poachers ; they would du the very revenue—they
would raise such a powerful competition against the poacher, that it
woudl be the height of madness in him to comintieruneing such risks
of detection and punishment, for the paltry gains of Ins dangerous
trade. No decrease of the quantity of game would arise either,
from the practice of selling it. lie confessed it would be a long
time before he could get over the feeling of selling game himself.
Ile thought Gentlemen would be averse to the practice, and that
persons would be looked down upon who pursued it. It had been
said by sonic that there would be an end of all sport—of all plea-
sure; that a pheasant would be looked upon as no more than a
barn-door fowl. Had they no sort of pleasure in killing
woodcocks or wild-fowl ? Had they no pleasure in fishing.
and in various other sports he could enumerate. It was really
nonsense to say that no pleasure could be had without killing
two or three hundred brace of pheasants or partridges in a
dar's shooting. He had now, he thought, gone through all the
objections he had ever heard of, but he would be happy to hear
(he repeated) any arguments for the continuance of the eresent state
of things. He had proposed a great change of the ann er entord of
' things, warring with many prejudices, against the feeling of a great
portion of the Horse, and contrary to the opinions of & Urge
number of the gentlemen of the country. The clause, with regard
to the license he had made, hen/multi, here observe was only tem-
porary ; but he trusted, if he should be fortunate enough to sue.
teed in prevailing upon the House to accede to his motion, that a
very few years would point out to them the necessity and propriety
of making it perpetual. The situation of endeavouring to prevail
upon that House in this instance was by no means enviable. He
had a great responsibility from various quarters. He had quite
enough to do in attending to the interests of his own consti-
tuents. He hail suffered • great loss of time. He bad en-
dured more trouble than probably the House was aware of.
But he had undergone all with satisfaction, from his firm and con.
scienrious opinion of the justice, policy, and humanity, of the
alteration he proposed. He had only to say, that there was scarcely
any measure more deserving the attention of his Right lion.
Friend the Secretary of the Home Department—scarcely any calling
more strongly for the interference of the Government. If they
would take it out of his hands, and if belied the misfortune to
fail in his object to-night, lie trusted they would. He hoped they
would at all events legalise the sale of game, and try the effect of
that change upon this vice of poaching, which all united in de-
vploring. He begged, however, in conclusion, to observe, that it
was with great pain he would give up the hope of accomplishing
all the objects of the present Bill.
Sir J. BRYDOES would negative any proposal to go into
a Committee upon this discussion. The measure, both in principle
and detail, had been fully gone into last Session, and rejected by
a deliberate vote of the House. Ile did not mean to enter again
into the discussion of this question, after having so fully ex-
plained his sentiments last cession; but he must take leave to
observe, that the idea of preventing poaching by legalising the
sale of game was a fallacious one. It was well known that in
particular places some shops were notorious for the sale of all kinds
of smuggled goods, such as tea, coffee, tobacco, silk, &c. ; and it
was equally well known that those who wished for such articles
knew the particular places where they would be likely to obtain
them. The shops thus affording both a facility to dispose of
smuggled pods and an encouragement to the practice. So it
would be with poaching t those who wished for illegal game
would go to some well-known place to seek for it. 'l'he dealers
in illegal game would always be enabled to undersell the fair
trader, :end poaching would be as much encouraged as ever.
The clause too, proposing to make night poachers subject to felony,
and transportation, atter the third offence, he objected to, because
It added another offence to our Penal Code, already containing
such an alarming catalogue of punishments. As the question had
been already fully discussed, and as he was not prepared to
stultify his vote of last Session, lie would, without any other
observation, move, as an amendment, that the sal be read a second
tiuse this day six months.
Mr. lA)CKHART seconded the Amendment. He objected to
the Bill as much for its inefficacy in the prevention of poaching,
as for its principles of policy and convenience. It was a great niis.
take to suppose it would in the least prevent the destruction of
game. The sane argument by which this measure was supported
would tell equally well against the preservation of every description
of field property. They are so much exposed, we will be told,
that really they cannot be efficiently protected ; better get rid of'
them altogether, than be compelled to inflict so many punish-
ments fee their reservatimirehey were to extremely exposed, that
it could not be guarded against. It was precisely the same argu.
mein. The advocates of the Bill professed to seek for a principle
of melioration. The Bill itself had no principle. Ile objected
not only lo the clauses, but to the main principle. Its abstract
principle was " Universalibus fallscia." • The right of property it
proposed to convey was impolitic and unjust: it proposed to give to
the man possessed of two or three acres--pertisps of an orchard or a
garden—the same right which belonged to a man possessed of five
or 6,00 W. It gave the small holder absolutely nothing, although it
took away front the great one a right very valuable to him. It was
in truth a new and fertile source of quarrel between landlord and
tenant. It 'gave, not alone to the holder of arable land, where
game might perchance be found, a right to destroy all game upon
his holding, but to the peasant with half an acre of ground,
small garden, or an orchard, a pinta joie right to kill and sell all
the pheasants or partridges which may chance to approach his pre-
' mists. And when it does this with the poachers and the depreda.
ton, how do they treat those who sport without a license ? Why,
they permit a Justice of Peace to grant a warrant for entering mid
searching the houses of those who have a right, but may have ne-
glected to provide an authority, while they rum the house of the
pretligate poacher—of the bad and wicked members of eocit tv—
into a receptacle of thieves and felons, tree from the invasion of a
much, and cleating ten times more crime than it professed to re-
medy. One word he would add as to qualifications: if the present
qualifications were not found sufficient, he had no objection—he
would even desire to extend it. If the members of the fibers! pro.
fessions complained of exclusion, admit them—admit lawyer',
merchants, payers of a certain amount of Assessed Taxes, if they
liked; but let them not consent to a principle which would lead
to the benefit of nobody, and would prove detrimental to all. On
the clause taking away the indictment for felony in the case of tak-
ing up game upon the lands of another, he would begladto know at
what precise period the property in the game commenced or ended ?
Vi as it when it was tint wounded, in the lands of one ? or when it
passed fluttering over the grounds of another ? when it fell in the
Held of a third ? or when it was carried in the mouth of a dog to
the possessions of a fourth ? At what precise period, then, did
the right of property end or corninetim 7 %Vas it on the ground,
or in the sir, or when would they determine it ? Such was the ex.
teme difficulty in which they would involve themselves by an

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abstract principle—hy legislating where they did net salt their way.
If they could extend the means to dispose of game legally, he, for
one, did not object ; but they must draw a line, arbitrary he con.
reseed it, bat they must draw it, and beyond that he would not go
if they did, it was his opinion they would create more mischief the&
they proposed to obviate.
Mr. PEEL—Although lie had before espressed his opinions at
some length upon this subject ; yet, lest there should be any doubt
as to his sentiments, awl as be had been appealed to by his Hon.
Friend the Mendez for Yorkshire, he would trouble the House
with a few observations. Ile had &strung suspicion that the anti-
quity of the laws upon the subject of game. and the practice pre-
vailing under them, would. if they took into their consideration the
changes of property since their enactment, form one of the strangest
arguments for the present proposed alteration. The notions, with
i regard to game, had undergone a total change n the last 40 years ;
now every plantation was convened into a preserve, and no gentle-
man fancied his enjoyment complete unless he could boast of hay.
log killed owe hundred head or game; he himself had been of one
party where, in three drys, they shot one thousand pheasants, and
yet, for all this glut of game, the Legielatute had denied any legal
vent. This immense accumulation of game, too, in comparison
with formet days, had made a change in the taste of the age.
Game had become fashionable : no table was considered complete
in its arrangement without it : the rich and the luxurious will have
it—and they leave it, (bear, hear,) and no law they could enact
would prevent the Three per Cent. Consuls from eating pheasants if
i: pleated them. (A laugh, and ales of hear, hear.) They had it
in evidence before them, and it was now high time, therefore,
to legalise a practice which they saw prevailed everywhere, in de-
fiance of their prohibition. He did not see any ground for pose.
poning the discussion from the statemest of his lion. Friend; the
:Member for Yorkshire (Mr. Stuart t's'ordey). It was possible to
give every individual the right to kill and sell game, without at all
affecting the question of property. They were questions quite dif-
ferent ; and supposing they were limited to the fliers right to kill
and sell, he thought no difficulties could arise upon the question of
property. It had been said that this freedom would he converted
by the poor man into a means of annoying his richer neighbour.
He denied that. Was it just, he would ask, that a rich nun
should be allowed to destroy thirltrafeersy of a neighbouring far-
mer, to kill, without recompence, thatatue which his grotutt‘ had
fed ? (Hear.) Their rights email fps be equalised, as had been
esid, but they would be placid epon a more equal footing; they
would come to a just comprondee e the poor man would KO that
this right, which was of no value to hint, would be west-
&tea of great consequence by his rich neighbour; and he would
feel that five pounds a-year perhaps, paid towards cultivating
his farm, would be of infinitely greater consequence to him
than the liberty of destroying a few heads of game. (Cries of
Hear, hear, hear.) Self interest would in this, as in every
other case, hare its due share of influence ; and he felt confident
that if this Act passed, in three or four years all parties would be
settled down into content with its provisions, and theft would
be no more dissatisfaction than what they heard expressed in
every interference with the ancient order of things. He would
ask, indeed, how. they could give any class new rights, with-
ofit creating some discontents: But they did not give new
tights 17110lly to the poor class—the rich man would bays new
rights as well as his poorer neighbors. Let the House now Wok at
the method of preserving game by au armed force; let them look at
a great landholder appetising six or eight keepers, with the power
of calling upon 'veiny or ditry aeeistatts, seined too, and autho-
shad to use these arms in sell-defence, and say if a system, thus
eakulated to engender ill-blood and bitter local hatred, should con-
tinue. (Heer.) Or let them look at the substitute fur this array of
feete..stbe still more objectionable method of preserving inclosures
iweaus of spring-guns film), and say if that is a sate tenure—a
eatidaesciey possession of property. (Hear, hear.) Let them say if
such a state of things does riot call for animmediate change, and
warrant the desire expressed for the second reading of this Bill.
(Hear.) His lion. Friend had said he would consent to alter the
qualification. although lie would not agree to make game a pro.
petty. II is Hon. Friend would find that alteration presented more
difficulties than be was at present aware of The House would
perhaps shortly believe that a gentleman of 30 or 40.00ei. a year
cannot at present qualify his younger sons to kill game, to
that perhaps the very prisms for whom he was meet anxious
to presefve his game, for whose amusement lie was most solicitous,
can only enjoy the pleasure of spurting by one evasion of the law,
whilelhe father, who sees this take place in his own domain, is.
probably. called upon as a Justice of the Peace. to esecute the
utmost rigours of the law against some hapless offender, guilty
only of that offence which his own sans are at that moment coo.
witting with impunity. (Cries of Hear, hear, hear.) A law
of this kind his Honourable Friend would find it difficult to alter
satisfactorily. Suppose all the liberal professions were entitled
to take out a certificate to kill game, he must enable them to
kill upon their own ground, and that could not be done with-
out making an alteration in the right of property. He knew
the difference between proposing to adhere ti an old esta-
blished system of jurisprudence and introducing a new one:
he knew the difficulties. the prejudices, to be surmounted, but he
could assure them this was not altogether a new conception--it had
existed in 'Scotland for a very long time; there every individual
possessing small grants of land can kill game, if duly licensed;
and every individual possessing thirty of, forty acres of ground can
qualify as many persons as he pleases twekill game upon that pro.
party; end yet he had never heard that there was any very great
scarcity of game in `upland. He freely owned that this Bill
would not, in his opinion, do all his Honourable Friend the
Member for Yorkshire anticipated. He (Mr. Peel) was not
so sanguine es to think it would put an end to poaching.
(Hear, hear, The poacher had two motives for pursuing
that dangerous trade—the love of gain and the love of sport.
If they interfered with the first motive, by a Bill which enabled
the gentleman tut compete with the poacher in the market,
more than half of his temptation would bo taken away ; prohibit,
as they had done, the sale of game, and the poacher must have the
whole supply of tlte market. Would it not be so with pine-apples
or any other luxury which people were in the baba of requiring to
gratify the palates of the luxurious ?—say that they are not to be
sold, they would enhance the price, but they might depend upon it
that they would be had. They would only give an encouragement
to the vendor of fruit uniting with a dishonest servant to defraud
them. (Hear.) All wants of luxury or necessity prohibited by le-
gal interference, would infallibly be Supplied to the extent of the
demand from illegal traffic. (fleas) His Honourable Friend
had insinuated that Gentlemen would be unwilling to sell game.
He knew not what difference there was between a hare and a rub.
bit, and yet no Honourable Gentleman he had ever heard of felt
any reluctance to pocket the shilling for a rabbit caught upon his
estate ; he confessed he never had, arid he did not understand
why any gentleman should be ashamed to receive the price of a
hare who would not feel equal disinclination to take the price of
a rabbit. this Bill was in operation, therefore, for a couple
of years, he felt confident that poaching would decrease, because
the profits of the poacher would be diminished; but without that
competition they could not hope to put any termination to a
*trade which, though illegal and dangerous, was product;ve
so much profit to those who hasarded its chances. (Hear, hear.)
When he was told that this title to kill game would destroy all the
pheasants and partridges in the country, lie could not help calling
the attention of gentlemen to a fact well known to all who indulged
in field sports. If there was any bird die peculiar object of me
sportsman's pursuit—it was the woodcock ; indeed, he had known
a whole field of ten or a cloven gentlemen abandon every other
speenes of sport, and one and all join in the chase of one wood.
cock; and yet thin bird, the object of such intense interest and
anxiety in the field, was to be purchased any day in Leadenball.
market at a very moderate price, (Hear, hear.) ('an it after this
be said that the legalising the sale of game, or extending the
power to kill it, will here any effect upon its quantity ? (treat.)
Rabbits too are saleable every where, pursued with the same avi-
dity, and killed without qualification or restraint, yet no one ever
hears of any decrease in the supply. His Hon Friend had ad-
verted to the support he had given this measure. At the time be
(Mr. Peel) first came into office, an Honourable Member,
now a Noble Lord (Lord Suffield) had brought this quer*_
Lion under the consideration of the House. That Noble Lord
bad obtained the appointment of a C,ommittet ; upon that Com.
mince he had attended day after day, and when that Noble Person
hod been called to the other House, and placed this question in the
hands of his Honourable Friend, lie believed he had been found
upon all occasions slighting every other duty which his situation
demanded, fighting side by side upon this question with its able
sod persevering advocate. (Hear.) lie well knew how to value
the great qualities that eminent person Iliad brought to the discus.
slots of that question ; he gave him credit to the full extent fur
;allohe swerltutes of tioutand caturaisicou is. had eabnittted to in
advancing it—sacrifices of time he believed not • little increased,
though his Honourable Friend had omitted to mention it, by the
pews of correspondence wlnch had been forced upon him by the
pyumincnt pan he had taken in the introduction of the question.
Whether this Bill be successful or not, he was convinced that
game must be put on some intelligible principle; they must ulti-
Mat ly throw around it the sanction of property; and if they
failed to-night, he. would certainly endeavour to secure, for three
years, the right of selling it. He would ask this fur the sake of
the public. He would give his most earnest support to every
part of this Bill; but as it wee a desirable thing to extract as
much good as they could from every oat-titmice, he would, it' it
failed, prefer such a modification to no alteration whatever. If he
could he would go further; but he would at all events do what he
could to prevent the main principle of the Bill from being lost to
the country. (Ilear,h ear.)
3lr. DOUGLAS opposed the Bill, upon the ground of its teed-
ing to destroy fox-carers, and appealed to the Member for West.
muster (Sir F. Burden), and the :Wernher for Wareham (Mr. ('al.
craft) if they did notemertain the same apprehension ? He thought
if the House persisted in
.passing the Bill, they should purchase the
expensive hutitieg establishments which would be lost to the pro-
prtetors. :The effeet of this Bill would be to cause a dearth of game.
particularly of foxes ; and in that event Gettlenien would be obliged
either to go to the Continent, or seek the ruin of their fortunes in
that grave of property—the top of St. James's. (A laugh, and
hear, hear.)
Sir JOSEPH YORKE wished to state a fact relat;ve to the
argument, that in the event el a change in the Game Laws, the
demand would exact the supply. Su far from there being any
ground of apprehension from thst being the case, two pouL
terers gave evidence befuee the Committee. that they could easily
servs up tau dishes of game to the table of every Slembst of
parliament; sod that NO far did the supply exceed the demand.
that several thousend partridges and ether buds were annually
*mien away and rendered useless, from the insufficiency of the
„Journal
Mr. )V3l. PEEL opposed the Bill. It was calculated to create
Bloch evil, and do no guod. lie further opposed it on the ground
of its intones ence with the sponsor dee country gentlemen.
S;tie .Y. SEBRIGHT supported the Hill. The principal ground
of las opposition to the present system of litune Laws was, that

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it interfered with she oonnd principle by which every person had a l
right to exercise control over his own property, and to do with it as
he pleased. The attachment to the present system was posing to
its being old, and boring long interwoven with the habits of the
people. fished been speaking to 'a person Mt the subject of Id lin
rams in a market in a country which he called abroad, tneonink '
time extensive district ; his observation was, that " such i thing
ss quite unnatural." (A laugh.) Such was the effect. There.
were some Gentlemen, alto, in discussions on the Usury Laws,
who seemed to think that flee per cent. was the natural roma(
looney, and that sty other was unnatural. Others were of opinion
that it was unnatural for a Protestant to vote for Catholic Emmet,
Teuton ; bet the House would easily perceive that there wet no
more a natural cause conneeted with such customs, than there
*agony why game should not be sold in the market. He though t
the Bill would be productive of the best moral effects, and would
therefore give it his entire conenrrence.
Sir A. VON and Mr. 0. PELHAM supported the Bill.
al►. J. MARTIN would vote for the second reading of the Bill,
in order that the House might go into committee upon it. There
were mar•y parts of it, however, objectionable, which would require
•iteration, and which, if not altered, he (Mr. Martin) would not
‘Ute for it on the third reading.
Mr. JAMES rose amidst cries of "Question." lie would
svpport the Bill on the gmund that a person who breeds game
might to have a right over it as his own. This was, in his opinion,
the only round of legislation on the subject of game.
lot the second reading . 82
Against ►t - - 26

51sjoety - - 5d
COMMITTEE OF SUPPLY.
On the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER,
she Housettotolved itself into a Committee of Supply.
Sir O. HILL ',fought up the Report.
51r. HUME was desirous of occupying the attention of the
Hoax before the adoption of the report, on the proposed increase
of theism, which he was prevented from doing by absence on the
evtioSag it was proposed. Neither the Noble Lord who had sub-
osittodalie Yoteasaee therhancellor of the Exchequer, told the
ebsilier this usessurie woo to be temporary, and the inference
.7.. SO dia. held Vas, that the present army with the
Imes be lbw permareall.pesot establishrewer of
. 'Below this they were to entertain no hope of re-
.4161:11.41117Neet. hear.) The petiod at which this increase was pro-
*
to hilt Most inopportune and extraordinary. The
Lltieettbed the country into state of ttanquillity
sailr ognecrhore was nothing in our foreign relations to
• wafts* .118/Vilewfation. In NIL it was recommended and
wail loeltitretstent to a Report of a Committee of this House, and
, ger aimmielance to the Royal recommendation, to reduce the expendi-
. tuts to the lowest possible rate; and the period of 1792 was pro-
posed as the standard by which to regulate the peace establish-
. Allem. He certainly mild not assimilee our ritablinliment to
that of 1792, but we might. and we ought to approximate the pre-
sent establishment to the former one as closely as possible. In
Ig2l. *I standard was laid down as eixty.eight thousand men.
He lMr. Hume) thoeght it ought to have been sixty ; yet since
that time there had been an increase of eighteen thousand, and the
standard was now to be so high as eighty-nix thousand. In 1821,
our relations with South America, and the situation in which that

country was, might have been a pretext Mr continuing the high
rue of that year; but now, when there was not even such a pretext,
why should we continue to increase it ? It 17113 not to be wondered
at, that the Chancellor of the Exehequer did not propose a greater
tittltrittion of taxation than 1.500,000/. The only two modes af-
fecting a reduction in the taxation of the country was a reduction of
. expenditure, or by doing away altogether with the Sinking Fund.
Now theSinkingFund was continued; and the expenditure, instead of
beingdhhinished, had been increased. The anticipation ora warcould
: done justify etteh an augmentation, yet no such apprehension was
• stove. te• exist. The increase of the army in Ireland appeared to him
. to be highly objectionable. It wes unnecessary. and only operated as
• an encouragement to the pernicious system of Government so long
• adopted towards that Manny. A change in that system he soon.
. hoped so wittier'. As to Ireland, in a moment of emergency, we
should look as one of the main and principal recounts of our
airength. Ills Honottralile Friend (Sit R. Wilson) on a former
night had said that the ineteue was justified by the state of our
cclottim ; and he parficulatly adverted to Gibraltar. Now the yall
knew the state of affairs in Gibraltar before his Ilonourable Friend
went citt. as well as whetthe came back ; and to him (Mr. Hume)
there appeared a sufficient !timber of men there. There might
possibly be a sudden Melanin of that garrison—the numbers there
might be t)..erpowered, and her ffatteries rendered useless ; such an
event might by bare possibility occor,but for all useful and reason..
able purposes there was a sufficient number of troops there already
In the lonian Islands we had 'fee or six thousand troops—an
ample supply. From Sierra Leone and other of our colonies we
had not exact eeturns ; but in the Cape of Good Hope, New
South Water, Lnd the other colonies from which we had accounts,
there appeared ne reason whatever for the proposed augmentation.
He looked in rain for any reasonable ground to justify this enor-
mous peace establishment, which it was to be presumed it was in-
tended should be peewnent By s reduction of the expenditure
in this department it die how rate at which it was originally in-
tended to be brought.; the Chancellor of the Exchequer would be
able to relieve the Mimicry of the assessed taxes, and moreover
have an additional suing to the Exchequer of three millions. If
an augmentation in soy department of our establishment ought to
be encouraged, it woe in the naval, for that, in time of exigency,
would tie bile eMRf rat et Arreenesa of naval force -might there.
fore be proposed with a seasonable pretext. which could not be ad-
duced for augmenting our already overgrown military establishment.
fhe real cause of the increase wu not to be found in necessity ;
but it was to extend the influence of Government by means of the
additional promotions placed by this means at its disposal. It was,
in his opinion, a complete approximation to the continental system ;
tut the further we were removed from that system the better it
would be for our own internal peace. With regard to foreign
powers, they had now as great Reliance of peace continuing as last
year ; and be could not see for what reason we were put on a war
establishment, as great or greater than that of the American war.
tie should, therefore. move a resolution which, he believed, ex-
pressed the general opinion of the country," That it was not the
opinion of that House that it was necessary in a time of profound
peace to maintain an army of 86,000 men, exclusive of artillerymen,
in India, and militiaa, making a total of 257.000 men in arms.
Colonel JOHNSON seconded the amendment of the Honour-
able Member for Aberdeen, that the proposed augmentation should
not take place.
CATHOLIC ASSOCIATION.
A elenage was here delivered from the Lords, purporting that
they had Posed the Rill for the Suppression of unlawful Societies
in Ireland, without amendment.
Mr. W. HORTON argued in favour of the proposed increase
in the military force. He thought the prevent state of the West
India colonies particularly demanded it. Not only had the Go-
vernors of the colonies demanded an increase, but Government had
also heard that it was required from other authorities. The mili-
tary in general in the colonies exercised the duties of police. In
the aggregate it appeared a great increase ; but, dispersed over the
immense empire, which ye at present governed, it would not
be felt. . .

51r. BRIGHT thought the subject ought to have been mere
fully entered into the other night by the Noble Lord opposite
(Palmerston). In 1824 an augmentation of 5,000 teen took place
under the same pretence of its being wanted in the West Indies :1
but they all knew that they were diverted to other destinations.
There had been periods when an increase was more wanted than at
present, when it was not so much pressed ; but now there was not
the least apparent necessity for it. Government had pretended
affectedly to remove taxes ; but it had only been upon certain
stain in the hope of increasing the consumption, and thereby
the revenue. (Hear.) The burden on the people was not in
reality decreased. H. wanted to see Government draw the least
that possibly could be from the people. It had been truly ob-
served by the Honourable Member for Aberdeen (Mr. Hume) that
there had been three wars carrying on, of which the House had
absolutely heard nothing. lie meant the wars with Algiers,
Ashintee, and the Burman Empire. The Honourable Gentleman
concluded by saying he should give his vote for the motion of the
Han. Member for Aberdeen.
Sir R. WILSON said, that with regent to what he had the
other night stated relative to Gibraltar, he was ready to support.
There might be sufficient forces there now; but Government
would have been faulty had it not taken proper measures to put
that important fortress i n an efficient state of defence. They were
to remember that there was a large French force, naval and mili-
tary, in its immediate vicinky—Cadiz. It ought not to be left to
a handful of men. in the hopes that its natural stre-gth would pro-
tect it. This reinforeeruent was absolutely necessary. The people
of England were intelligent, and could see that this was a period
when an exertion was required, and which might, if it was timely,
divert the evils of war. He should, therefore, support the in-
crease.
Air. TRANT spoke • few words to the same effect.
Sir C. FORBES said, the British had been the aggressors in the
Burmese war, which, if we had so chosen, we might have avoided.
There was no prospect of its ever being brought to a successful con-
clusion. If we were in possession of the Burmese capital we
s' ould not be a hit more advanced, for we should never be able to
cinquer the people. The Marquises of Hastings and Wellesley
would not hays allowed themselves to have been bullied in India,
y.. 4 they would not have entered into this war. But the fact was,
toat nothing would satisfy our rapacity in India. With regard to
the expense, it would be a great deal less if we were to send 15,000
or 20.000 European troops at once. That force was required at a
licrind when our possessions were not so extended as they were now.
Go would now observe upon the manner in which the troops were
sent. Seven hundred men were usually placed in one ship, which
occasioned the ships to he so crowded, that on a late occasion the
'oral!, applied to bare 100 taken out at the Downs. What aug-
mented the evil was, that ships going to the same destination were
rot allowed to sail together. 't lie reason of this was, strange as it
might appear to the hotter, that they might not assist each other in
case of need. A few 3ears ago two vessels sailed in company from
l'hksa s on the passage one otAhern run on shore. Her companion
of course helped to get her off, and materially aided in saving the
eorgo. Upon the arrival of the ships in England the Captain of '
the helpin!: vessel applied to the Directors for demurrage, which
they thought proper to refuse. The Captain, in consequence.
brought them into a coat: of law, and not only claimed demurrage,
but,oeiviwe. Mid obtained a verdict. by which be was award-cl
12JM1111. tasteful of about 1.6e0f. which viable demand to the Di-
rectors. The conserpleage was, that the Directors ordered that
-044 should not sail together. Now he would .twk—were the lives
,f his Majesty's" subjects thui to be trilled with.? • Covarnonent
ought to show more attention to tie manner in which troops were
trotessisetka_r
Mr, LINDSAY begged to say that the otHiervations that had
...tit beta &unfit/We not well 'founded. Tki 'ships appointed

for the transport of the troops were in better repute than try other
transports. Me now held a letter in his hand from an officer of the
ship that was unfortunately wrecked, and setae:lllmi been ailighdy
alluded to. 't he ship was of 1.30 d tons, and hid on board 1131
1/villain all. There were on board the Royal Navy but fourteen
inches allowed t where-as, in this case, and all others of the Com-
Pany'aeshipa, there were eighteen Mellen allowed for berths. It
was also replete:al that one tlaird of the soldiers Should be always
on deck. eso that, in fact. every precaution for the prettereation
of health was taken. As for the story of the ship that bed assisted
the other, he would merely suppose two ships starting together,
one a slow, the other a swift sailer, and t%e swirl was to be loiter-
ing to assist the other, world it roe he intolerable for the Directors
' to hare to pay for this demurrage? but, in point of fact, the Coin-
' painyhad offered to meet the owners of chartered ships half way, in
any plan which might have the object of remuneration in view.
The Honourable Gentleman concluded, by hoping that the brave
man by whose exertions 530 out of COO souls had been saved ets the
lime melancholy occasion. would be amply remunerated.
Lord PALMERSTON said, it would be seen that there never
was a case in which patronage would be so little regarded. The
promotions would be impartial in the highest degree. Most of the
Lieutenants promoted were of seventeen years standing. An ab-
solute necessity existed in the Colonies for the proposed increase.
With respect to those Colonies which were merely military pests,
he could not do better than rest upon the opinion of the Gallant
Member for Southwark ;Sir R. Wilson). The flonourable Mem.
le r for Aberdeen (Mr. flume) had greatly magnified the number
of the yeomanry. The expense of the 8(000 men which he com-
plained of, did rot exceed by more than 24,0(Xd. the :000,0410/.
which he (Lord Palmerston) understood the Honourable Member
thought sufficient.

Sir R. WILSON asked, whether it was intended that quarterly
payments, instead of half yearly payments of the pensions of
disabled half-pay officers, were to be established ?
Sir C. LONG said, that that arrangement had taken effect
with some class of pensioners, but not with respect to tle meri-
torious officers mentioned ; but if it would be more agreeable to
them to receive it qterterly instead of half yegly, there was, as
far as he knew, no objection to the plan. The arrangement should
begin on 24th June next. He felt greatly indebted to the lion.
Baronet for his suggestion.
herd lIII‘TON was •*reprised at die present increase abed' a
million more than in 11123. He would beg to have this sta,ement
compared with that of dir. Pitt. It was idle to say that our co-
lonies were increased. They were not treble what they were at the
breaking out of the French war under Mr. Pitt, and yet we had a
treble force. The military administration did not deal fairly with
the country. There was a tendency in the Government to increase
the military establishment ; they thought that as the people did
not feel so greatly oppressed as they were three or lour years
ago, they would pass it over. It was not .arms that would ensure
this country respect, but the knowledge their enemies would have
that they could in the event of war raise an army which would defy
all opposition. The increase was unnecessary.
Sit F. OM MA NNEY supported the increase, anti was glad the
affair of the disabled officers was to be taken into consideration.

Sir C. LONG explained.
The House then divided; the numbers being—
For the original motion .
For Mr. Hume's Amendment
Majority - -
ARIIY ESTIMATES.
When the gallery re-opened,
Mr. HUME was observing upon the amount of military force in
the Colonies, end contended that, instead of the country being at
the expense of maintaining a large establishment there, the in.
habitants of those Colonies should themselves be prepared to
take up arms, whenever circumstances made such a proceeding ne-
cessary. Si'hile such a system of military government was per-
severed in, the country could have no well-founded expectation of
relief. To the arguments which he had previously used, he bad
heard no sutlicicit answer: and with reference to the division
which had just taken place, he could only say, that, however email
the minority, he felt satisfied With having done his duty.
Some items of the estimates were passed without observation ;
but when the question was put on a sum of 13,1891. Vs. 2,d. for the
Royal Alilitary College.
Mr. HUME objected to the amount.
Lord PALMERSTON, in reply, said that the subject had been
so often under consideration that he would not think of tiring the
Hobse by going over ground so frequently debated, as the amount
required for the maintenance of this establishment.
HUME, however, rose and moved an amendment to the
effect that the sum be reduced from that above stated to only
10,0001.
Which being seconded (as we understood) by Mr. FYSRE
PALLIER, was put and negatived without a division. Attu
which the original motion was carried.
Mr. HUME, when the question was put on the subject o
Reduced Allowances, again ruse to call for further diminution o
this branch of expenditure.
Lord PALdIERSTON replied, that the House was already In
possession of security to satisfy it that further reduction 'Dula ba
made.

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After some conversation relative to Foreign Half-pay, and to the
Cliches and Kilmainham Hospitals,
he. HUME called the attention of the House to the expense
of the War Office respecting arrears; complaining that the
executors and representatives of several individuals were most
,roxinjously and ,jujurioualy harassed. by being called on to. pay
sums for which they had not preserved vouchers, the parties who
hail •transacted the business being dead and gone. He put it to
the Noble Lord, whether it was fair that individuals should be
required to pay for negligence not their own. He also called upon
the Chancellor of the Exchequer to support, for the military de-
partments, that fairness which prevailed in the Cavil, so as that
no change should be made previous to a certain day. The Hon.
Gentleman then adverted to some imitances, in support of the
arguments he had• advanced; and noticed the circumstance of a
person who had been superannuated in the War Office being
employed in arranging the disputed demands of that department.
He concluded by repea:ing his appeal to the Chancellor of the
Exchequer and the Secretary at War; strongly expressing his
feeling that he owed it to the individuals concerned and to the
public, to put &floe& to such transactions.
Hr. T. WILSON concurred in the views of Mr. Hume, and
stated another case in support of his opinion, contending that a
time should be defined front which • sponge should be passed
over the whole, so as to specify the liability of securities.
Lord PAL)IERSTON, in rising to reply, affirmed, that in any
case where it clearly appeared that vouchers had been lost, the de-
mand was „relinquished. With regxrd to the individual who had
left his office, he had been removed in consequence of ill-health,
but at the end of a year, when recovered, he (Lord Palmerston)
had himself recommended him to the parties by whom he had been
employed. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. F. BUXTON mentioned a case of singular severity and
oppression, adding, at the same time, that so soon as the ease was
brought under die consideration of the Noble Lord opposite, justice
was immediately rendered.
Mr. HUME again pressed the necessity of fixing some specific
time.
The CHANCELLOR of' the EXCHEQUER said, that it
would bc quite preposterous and impracticable to draw the line
which the Honourable Gentleman opposite required. 'Whenever a
ease of hardship came before the Noble Lord, he communicated
with the 'Treasury on the subject, and where any reasonable cause
was found to justify remission, it was invariably granted ; but,
beforehand, it would be highly inexpedient to specify a time, for
then the paities might create delay to serve their own purposes.
On the resolution fur granting the sum of 33,0001. for Exchequer
Fees in Great Britain upon issues to be made for Army Services
in 1325
Mr. HUME asked why these fees were not altogeiher doneaway.
He had understood that this was considered a very unnecessary
item in the Estimates, and was last Session purposed to be entirely
saved to the country.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that he had
directed his attention to the subject, and had availed himself of the
assistance of the clerks of the College, who had gone very minutely
into the cohsideration of the offices in the Exchequer. If the Hon.
Member should hereafter see this vote again proposed, he must
consider it not to arise out of any reluctance on his (the Chancellor
of the Exchequer's) part to a change, but from the difficulty that
attended the effecting it, fot it was much easier to ridicule the item
than to get rid of it.
The vote was then agreed to.
ORDNANCE ESTIMATES.
On the Resolution for granting the sum of 48.9481 for salaries,
&e. to the Civil Establishments at the Tower and Pall-mall,
Mr. HUME objected, than although the Finance Committee
had recommended a decrease of these Establishments to 47.0001.,
yet no such reduction had taken place : he thought there did not
appear to be any disposition to economise in this department. He
protested against the increase of the salaries of the Clerk of the
Ordnance, and the Surveyor-General, as uncalled for.
Sit HENRI' HARDINGE said, that this subject had been
taken into consideration, and when the Honourable Member
spoke of reduction, he should remember that no less than 2411,0001.
had been reduced in the Ordnance Department within the last five i

The vote was then agreed to.
On the Resolution for granting the sum of 139,465/. for the
Commissariat Store Branch for Great Britain, Ireland, and the
Colonies, fur
31r. IIU3IE objected to the charges for the Colonies being
blended under the head of Commissariat in the accounts. Ile asked
why the item for clothing for military labourers in the West In-
dies, and for the Government slaves at the 3lattritios and Cape of
Good Hope, should be introduced under the same head, unless it
was for the purpose of making the accounts complicated, instead
of simple and intelligible? Ile knew not why we should be pay-
ing for the support of liberated slaves in the Colonies, in addition
to our pours' rates at home. It was his intention to submit a mo-
tion in the course of a few days, to ascertain the expense of sup-
porting the slaves in all our colonies.
Sir WILLIAM YARDING": said a few words in reply.
The vote was then agreed to.
Leave was then given to bring in a Bill pursuant to the Resolu-
tions of the Haus:.
WAYS ANI) MEANS—ANNITAL DUTIES.
The House then resolved itself into a Committee of Ways and
&leans:
And on the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE-
QUER, the Resolutions fur grating the Annual Duties were
agreed to.
The House then resomeil.
A,SESSED TAXFS' BILL.
The further consideration of th. Report ut the Committee on this
Bill was postponed.