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Wert to be due to Minieters,though none could be 100
mooch for the brave soldiers and their great Captain,
oho hail won them by thew spirit and heroism?
It as it the fifth year of profound peace with the I
weold that Nliiiisters were to claim confidence, when
they avowed that sedition and treason raged among
their own people, and that thq could molly he era.
.heated by Bills of pains and penalties ?—(Cough- I
ins on ge ministerial benches.)-11e trusted Gen-
.l !onto woe, Id refrain from interrupting him—he
meant to be brief, but if this interruption were per-
seierrd iii, he should only have to detain them
hanger, a, he was determined to repots, his opt-
.toits, and he would extend them to tenfold l
length if these attempt; ot-1.-
Ile was old enough to recollect the proceedings
of
Government,' and Purharnenta in Ireland., and
to remember the cruel oppressiniss that were i
f/l'actlied upon the people, when the Noble Lord
(Castlereagh) was in, ao well as when lie was out
of office in that country. Ile recollected when
iony honest man who interposed between the people
✓ their oppressors was coughed down in Par-
/n enetit by the purchased majority of that day.
nom had been the result ? The grievances of the
people were met by coercitni—the country at length
li«carne goaded to madness, and a devastating re.
lie:lion was the result.—(Hear, hear.)—The history
of those sad times in Ireland presented a spectacle
fur deep contemplation. There were those in power
in that day who were eager to see the people draw
the sword, that they themselves might have a
pretext for throwing away the scebhard. The
vices which human nature exhibited once, she again
threw forth at other periods, and lie meant no of-
fence to any particular individuals when lie avowed
his full ar.d thorough conviction that there were per-
sons in the country at this moment, who, for their
own black and malignant purposes, were ready and
eauer to drive the people into acts of outrage which
may furnish a pretext for puttiog Alamo that peo-
ple at the point of the sword. ;If Parliament
tent itself to such persons it would stand degraded
in the eyes of the people—it would forfeit its cha-
racter as the guardian of public liberty.—(Hear,)
They were told indeed by Ministers of the nations
of the Continent that were saved by the vigour
and valour of their councils. He denied the as-
sertion, and declared that the nations of the Con-
tinent were saved by themselves, and not by his
Majesty's Ministers. The proof of the estimatiou
in winch Ministers were held on the Continent,
could he easily put to the test. Go to any Court
in Europe and see the contempt in which they were
bell—go to any people in Europe and see the
scorn ailed derision which were heaped upon them. 1
They were universally despised and detested.
So long as the strength of the Continental -
people rested upon the influence of rotten thrones,
it crumbled, amid they owed their existence
.1, nations to whatever of generosity was bestow-
el upon them by their conqueror (Bonaparte) ;
%lien at length an accumulation of oppression
roused the people to resistance, they expelled the
previous conqueror, his own people refused him
obedience, and oppressed nations conquered—not
France, but Nupoleon—(fleur).—lle hind no
stunt% io which he could adequately express his
sidiniration of the military glory acquired by
chi* country during the late eventful war; but the
noble efforts and heroism which consummated it,
%timid he feared have been vain, if the people of the
C:cnitinerit hid not ton man risen and assisted in the
expulsion of their oppressor. But this glory be-
longed to the people, and not to the Ministers.
Where had they the suffrages of any once prostrate
ration for its redemption ?—(Hear.)—Wuuld the
Right Hon. Gentleman (ter. Calming) whose elo-
'pence was so exercised in defence of the measures
at his colleagues, and who had but just returned
from the Continent, say from what State he had
pt.:cured a certificate of attachment to his Majesty's
uliuisters ? Did lie obtain one from :he fallen
ai.d expelled people of Pare ?—(Hear.)—Was it
Com the people of Genoa he received an eulogium
iiimn the merits of the British Mini ?
(;lear, hear.)—If it were not, was it from dis-
iiietabered Saxony, or did Belgium resound their
praises ?—(Hear, hear.)—What did France say
of their acts ? they suffered. as friends, their parties
to cuter het states, and they remained there as in-
vaders. To crown all, in the fifth year of pence,
the people of this empire—the people whose ener-
s,ies acid perseverance, under every sacrifice, enabled
.klitiisters to carry to the full length the whole
• their war measures, were now to be put down
lq coercion—they were to receive chains in return
bir their efforts and their confidence—mind these to
tie mewed, without even the preparatory form of
cry inquiry.—(Hear, bear.)—The Honourable
Member, with great force, condemned the whole
policy of his Majesty's Ministers ou the present
occusiou ; at home and abroad it was alike
diogriseeful, condemned, execrated, and despised.
Why was it that, under such circumstances, ap-
peals were made to rally round the throne with
loyal addresses, when no danger for the stability
of the throne could at all be contemplated—while
110 efforts were made to rally round the people and
the Cueotitut ion. and save both from the pain* and
penalties that were alike levelled against them ?
He then condemned, in pointed term*, the pro-
posed duration of the Bill, and its extension beyond
ihe local places of disorder.—(/pear.)
Mr. G /LEN Feu., in explauation, denied any its-
tention to have cast the smallest reflection upon big
lion. rod Gallant Friend (Sir Robert Wilson).
Mr. HAMMY denied that the people of England
were looked upon by the nations of the Continent
tie the light mentioned by his Hon. Flitud (Mr.
luichineon.) He had not been at Fargo, but he
hail tit Genoa, and had close COI/MX:001i with
Swigy uud other party of the Continent, and from
his own experience he could assure the House of
the !lettering reception which an Englishman, unless
hr were very unreasonable indeed. was sure to meet
with in there States. • The Hon. Member then en-
tered upon the subject matter of debate, amid ex-
presaed his readisees to admit the necessity of arm-
ing Government with a stronger power of law in
the premed state of tilt country. lie also ad-
enined the illegality of the nesting at Mane
cheater. sod expressed a strong opinion that
trail' the Magistrates sad the yeomanry might
stood exonerated, if a proper opportunity
given them of slating the grounds -‘ which
bad sated. He castled's:eel, he
tare approbation that was given
above ell. the saboegasat refs-

obedience to the wi•hcs of the people.—(tlear.).—
This nonld do more to assist the extreme re-
formers than any decision which that House
could attain.—(Hear, hear.)—lt took from him
the strongest argument against a class of Re-
formers, in whose views be could not coincide,
though he 'vas ready to agree to any measure of
reform which would root out corrupti from both
within and without the walls of that !louse. He
*dim expressed his opinion that the present Bill
would itot prevent the mischievous effect of loose
orators, for though they could not address num-
bers of fifty thousand, they would have, from the
facility of obtaining local residence, opportunities
enough to address with the same effect district
meetings of ten thousand.— (Hear, hear, hear.)—
As to the proposed measure it►elf, he had ►trong ob-
jections both to its continuance for five years, and
to its general application to parts of the country
where no necessity existed for such a law—(Hear.)
He, in conclusion, contended that Parliament had
on all great questions, both in the American and
French war., the property tax, and other leading
measures, been an echo of the sentiments and opi-
nions of the people at large, and he therefore the
more regretted that on the present occasion ■ny
measure should be pressed by Ministers which
could have o tendency to cut this link between the
Parliament and the people—(Hear. hear).
Mr. HUTCHINSON explained, that be had never
stated the people of this empire were held in con-
tempt by the nations of the Contin►nt. What lie
had said, and which he now repented, was, that the
policy of their Government was held iu contempt
and Cyril execration. .

Mr. NOX expressed Ira opinion in a tone of
voice so inaudible in the gallery. that we regret to
say we were unable to catch the tenor of his senti-
ments.

Mr. Joan Sarni declared the regret he felt at
the disclosure of alarming information, which, as
in the speech of a Noble Lord elsewhere (we pre-
sume the Duke of Northumberland). had an im-
mediate tendency to create fluctuations in the fund-
ed property of the country—a result that was ex-
emplified last Saturday. He by no means intend-
ed to impugn the authority of the Noble Person-
age, who asserted that 100,000 men were under
arms (secreted for the purpose), on the banks
of the Tyne and Weir, up to Carlisle. The Ho.
noumble Member 'hewed the impossibility, ac-
cording to his view of the subject, of this ini'orms-
tion being correct, from a computation of the
actual population capable of hearing arms in the
district of country alladed to, and strongly lumen'.
ed the effect of unfounded airtime of this kind,
which may affect the foreign exchanges—a result
that must be of the most injurious character in its
bearing upon the resumption of bullion payments—
a resumption so uece'sary to the restoration of the
commercial and financedl credit of the country.
These reports had a tendency to the removal of
capital from the Enlist) to the Foreign Funds,
which he could not but lament, as his plan, like
that of all fair men, was to stood by the vessel of
their country while it had a plank to swim upon.—
(Hear.)
Au Honourable Member, whose name we could
not learn, observed, that he would vote for the pro-
posed Bill, because he considered the Constitution
in danger, sod because he had sworn to defend that
Constitution.— (Hear.)
Another Hon. Member, who spoke tinder the
gallery, contended for the necessity of limiting the
duration of this Bill, if not to one, at most to there
years. He also deprecated the refusal of inquiry.
Sir ROBERT FIRROK said, that no limitation of
either time or place would make this Bill palatable
to him, viewing it, as he dirt, to be a glaring viola-
tion of the first principles of the Constituti .
Better, he thought, would it he for Ministers to
take upon their own responeibilety the adoption of
such measures as they thought local insubordinatiou
called for, and afterwards delimit! upon Parliament
for an indemnity, than proceed to legislate in this
manner on principles subversive of the integrity
of the British Constitution. 'fire Hon. Baroiret,
with great force, argued against the injustice of the
general application of a measure of severity against
a particular and local evil, and after toucheog with
discrimination upon the character of the meetings
at Birmingham, Manchester, Mott other places,
lamented the precipitation with which the throne,
the fountain of mercy and consolation to the people,
was, by Minister", made to praise measures of
unnecessary severity, and to call for udditione to
the strength of a standing army,already too strong to
be constitutionally maintaitied by tine country in a
time of profound pelisse. He deeply !mewed that
the views of Ministers should have exposed in the
eyes of any portion of his Majesty's subjects the
father of his people to appear as it were like the
chief of a faction—a situation which mutt be so
contrary to the real feelings of the illustrious indivi-
dual, as well as to the constitutional character which
it was desirable he should hold in the eye. of the
country at large. He colicluded by totally disseut-
mg from the 11111.—(Hear.)
Sir CnARLEI MC:HICK seed, that though he be-
lieved the Noble Duke (Northumberland) had bet-
ter means of knowing than he had the state of se-
cret netnippg in the northern counties, and would
not on the slightest occasion pronounce au opinion
which !se did not siNcevely believe to be correct,
yet still there were strong donbts upon the real me-
coney mid correctness cie•the informed' upon
which that opinion was conscientiously founded.
Mr. Beowatow (we think seine peeress said Lord
Mriaoates_l_es) defended
l the cusisluct of brannetf amt.'s(
I . es. Irish Members ato had. voted ma the present occasion
I with Ministers, from the impuistious cost epos them by
I the Hosourable Gentleman opposite (Mr tiolchiusou),
I that they were deluded by the Noble Lord, under the
lides that the measure would me woleasl to Ireland.
Is us the costes' y anniutained *bet their support was given
I under the irresistible convictswi at the necessity isf the
I measure, cad that they came rotas wow per's of the ens-
pare, under the illannrillelleiell of iheoaation or the sear, to
opiadd the Conatitutitio, and prevent. so far as their voice
molds'', this etsiiiiiry from (momentum the calamity whirls
'reload had seffered by the conflagration 4 a geaeral rebel.
l..ll.—(Hear.)
Mr. HUTCHttnion explained. •
Lord Came:smarm stated that he had at the onset
meutiotsed the Bill was to apply to the empire at large.
Lard NIMIPITII said. Unit. except is particular districts
iwhere tumuli prcrailesk, there sus no secesatty for the en-

LONDON.
TUESDAY, Durant 7. £ll9.

The Bill fur subjecting persons convicted r se-
cond lime of the offence of publishing a libel, to
the p ' !smell& of banishment or transportation,
was last night read u ►rcund time in the flouse of
Lords, after an ardent but fruitless opposition.
A severer his, founded upon principles less tens.
ble or leas consistent with policy or justice, was
never submitted to Parliament. The Search fur
Arms Bill, mud the Drilling and Tr.ii 1111 l g Bills.
severally weld through Committees, and were
ordered to be read a third time this evening.

la the House of Conitoono, the Sedition* Meet-
ings, Bell underwent • long and intereNting•
Non: but Lid CASTLEREAGH, in the early part

of the evening. made * cancringion, as the Noble
Lord said, to pubic feelaug, which has in a great
degree removed the sting from the measure. He
coticetfrd;that the Bill should not constitute a part
of the permanent law of the country ; the discws-
►ion, interline, happily was confined to the guraiion
of limiting the operation of the Act to sax weeks
alter the opening of the next Session of Parliament.

relent compliment to the 'Tonle of Cootonont, tylvo
had supported this at•ry Bill by a large majority.
I b.* his Lordship at length ditcoiered that there
es los a public fechiiK, not expressed in Parliament,
whicii it would be unsafe always to tle.pise ? It VS,
11,ti hr too get.erally known that the !Joule of Conl-
in:ins had coosented to Ilw o.econd reatlinK of thni
BM, and dist Lora CASTLEREAGH. nut influrnrrd
by t:ir .rase of the (louse, lout conscious that the
ivehog of the conntry to
ci hi+ own accord, though roorcirol, as he de-

chives, to his OlClljud;nural,omiruoril that this
whiels he het stitrotitit•td fur the purpose

reudernig it a part of the permaivect law of
the realm, ►houhl lw limurd in chiral' even
to live years' This conviction tilt. Noble Lord
loAs acquired through the unbotight portion of
tile public mu, ■od fur IhiG good service he will,
txr trtio, he induced to wiitignir the firverity of the

np-nsioreo which hive heels framed for it• destruction.

In the course oldie niglit Mr. BUXTON 'unveil that
' the &natioo of 11► e Bill he limited to three years,
U 1 tin!, minion the Nonce divided, when it W;ts
I 'legalised lay a majority of 175. Notwithstanding the
t tranquility of Ireland, so much blineted of by Lord
1 CASILEUFAOII to his speech introducing this Bill,
ins Luril,liip hrs ex:entled the measure to that coon-
-11. As it is to imply in the peaceable parts of this
4:nullify, iu co
of Ireland se II have no reason to complain of par-
tialilv.
N., one will presume to say that this it nut
equal justice.

We have received Paris Kilter* of Thursday and
Friday 154. Ott the former day the Twit Chambers
saweisibletl, :toil were occupied principally in ap.
potottog eecret:irtes, iiiii .g bureaux, and regulat.
lug the ittit-rmsl economy of the respective Asitein.
blies. Nothing important its-coiled in the Chamber
of Peers, butt in coustituting the bureaux of the
Chamber .f I), 'mt.:co, the name of the Count
G•cdotx• was, drown from the urn. No sooner
was it aintounced by the Piesolent, than a vitileut
cognize-unit) took place in the elhitnlter ; some mem-
bers ol.jected to the nomination of Gamins': as •
somber of a bureau, on the ground that he had tint
yet taken the oaths prescribed by the charter previ-
ous to his sitting in the Chamber, but his most
violent opponeot was the Count MARCELLUI, who
repeatedly exclaimed, No regicides ix she Chamber!
it ‘.lllll remarked that during the uproar that pre.
rutted on the right and left of the Chamber ; the

Centre, where M. LAINE. RAVEZ, and Uiquts
were rilige4l, maintained a dignified silence. The
question t%ais at length put from the Chair, whether
the name of NI. GREGOIRE should he withdrawn
from the bureau, and, alter much confusion, this
question win, decided iu the affirmative. M. Gam-
(Willa, although elected by a department, cannot
he considered a Member until lie has taken the
oath and his seat, consequently he is not qualified
to be srpointed 41 member of a bureau, or to per-
form any duly that belthie,s to a Deputy.
The F,encli .5 per cetao. are 67 fr. 90 c.—Bank
Stock 1.455 fr.

Dwell and flarnhorgh Mail. have arrived. It
i• owed II Eider the head of Betio), the 27th No-
vember, that at the lust general meeting for the
pitimuttott of commerce, Stc. at Frankfort, it was
remilved to ►rod a deputation to represent to the
Courts of Vienna and Berlin the iitstreo* of the
(;ernotst merchants. The Dutch l'aperi are to the
4th in-taut, but they are totally destitute of interest.

We have received New York Papers to the
I:2,sh /if November. The Governor of the State
of New Volk has issued a Proclamation fixing the
424 of ibis month es a day of prayer and thanks-
giving, for the many blessings which that State
has experienced during the past year, including ilw
geoe►ll presiervatott the public health, and its
deliverance in the metropolis from the cinitagiutto
disease with which it oar menaced.

Veisterriay morning the Duke mud Duche•• of
CLARENCE went to Bl•ckhe•th. 01) • ru.it to the
Ptiuce.% SUPHIA Of Gt.ovv•srEtt. Iu the evening
their Royal Illightiesbes returned to their residence
iii St. J.iiirs'e Palace.

Sunday evening Prince LEOPOLD arrived in town
frotu Chremont.

His Royal Highness Prince LEOPOLD goes this
night to Drury-lane Theatre. his Royal Highness
having expressed a particular desire to see Wild
(lull, which is eousidered one of the best acted
plays in the whole range of the drams. It is ex-
pected that he will be nr.coinpanied by several
branches of the Royal Family. It is his Royal
fliglii.ese's first visit to Drury-lime ►ince the death
HI the beloved and deeply-lamented Princess
CHARLOTTE.

Should the Seditious Meetings Bill Inas in its
.hake into a law, it will effectually prevent
Ilse House of Commons itself 'rum assembling. It
&clans dist "uu meeting of sal• description of per-
suisaewerding the number of fifty persons (other
than and textvid any meeting of any county. &c.)
&I MO be holden for the purpose, or cm the pre-
nr deliberating upou any public grievance.
or :my lustier in Church or Star," unless in their
respective parishes, townships, or districts.
Ya.terrlsty re'sittight arms and accoutrements
war delivered at the barracks. to nearly 400 of the
.harp showmen, corps. now arthod)ing to Glasgow.
Tiwy are a very Hue body of young men.
Four iodmvtduals have brat fully committed to