Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-03-18 00:00:00

THE NORTHERN TIMES FRIDAI, MARCH 18, 1859

STANLEY of Alderley, of -4 very different complexion. mittee (Sir G. C. Lewis) is a man of great ability, and he 1
It was for the Crovernment to adopt the course of appears to be sparing no pains to sift the matter thoroughly,
not listentrig exclusively to any individual Company, as regards the probable interference of the proposed new
but that they should listen to any tender from any dock with the Birkenhead docks, as the right. hon. mem-
ber's examination of Mr. Hartley strikingly shows, obtainyng
Company on the same or better terms than those
offered by the Submarine Company. He expressed from the experienced engineer, as it did, his opinion, that, I
this wish in consequence of an intimation which he as respects Birkenhead, it will be as it were a new trade,
had received that a Company had offered to construct and it is impossible to say what the extent of the trade at
Birkenhead will be unless the Liverpool merchants come
an Atlantic Telegraph at a saving to the Government
there with their ships,—that all the business transactions
of £25,000 a year, and. that the Treasury had given being in Liverpool, a merchant would rather have his ships
the proposal no answer. Now, as the President of near his counting-house,— and that, although it is most
the Board of Trade (the Earl of DONOUGHMORE) desirable to finish the docks at Birkenhead, yet the inland
answered, the former contract with...ithe Atlantic carriage trade cannot be taken away from Liverpool, and
Telegraph Company was broken in consequence of it will be for the steam carrying trade to say, whether they
the failure of the scheme. A new one is now likely, will go to the Birkenhead docks or the new Liverpool
we believe, to be entered into, in which it is to be docks, there being many different opinions on that
hoped that the public interests will not be lost sight point, as to whether they will go into the Birkenhead
of. But it ought to be borne in mind, that however docks or not. Coming to closer quarters, on the real
desirable it may be, as a general principle, for the point at issue, the Chairman's questioning thus proceeded:
Government to be free to receive and entertain an
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all that space?—Mr, Hartley : I think so, if the trade goes
tions of a very peculiar character to be taken into lonas it has done. The Chairman : Then you do not think
account, in favour of that body. They have had all that the new works at Liverpool will in any way effect the
the risk, all the loss, all the difficulty of the first docks at Birkenhead ?—Mr. Hartley : I do not. The
experiment of a Submarine Telegraph through the Chairman : And you do not think that the accommodation
vast Atlantic. Future attempts will of course at Birkenhead will suffice for the increased trade ?—Mr.
, benefit by their costly experience,—and benefit, too, Hartley : Not for the inland carriage trade." Here, then,
1 without much cost to the parties making them. This iis the settling of the whole question at issue. And, cor-
-1 consideration alone, were there no other, ought • roborated, as this is, by that of such practical men of
surely to shew that the present Company are entitled business in the very kind of shipping for which more dock
to be listened to by the Government, in preference to accommodation is sought to be provided, we cannot but
any other that may now come into the field against

think that the case of the promoters of the bill has been

abundantly proved

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The remark of Lord REDESDALE, on the same

occasion, that if the Government made a guaran-

LOCAL INTELLIGENCE.

tee, to come into operation only as soon as the
line .was in, efficient working, he did not see the

AMERICAN RACE HORSES IN LlVERPOOL.—Yesterday
the City of Manchester arrived here, and we understand
she has on board five fine American race horses, the best
being known by the name of " Deschilds " and was raised
in Kentucky. There are also two celebrated American
trotting horses on board.

use of it ; for if '•the line once got into use

it was sure to pay, and if not, such guarantee

evidently

useless, was eertainly

without point. But then its immediate effect should
be this,—to urge the Government to grant such aid
as is requisite to get the Atlantic Telegraph into
efficient working at once, for as soon as it is so,
then it must assuredly pay. The difficulty is a
present, and, as it were, a preliminary one. If the
Government would render really acceptable service,
therefore, to the Atlantic scheme, which is by far the
grandest of all, it must be offered immediately. The
old proverb, Bis dat, qui cito dat, has a peculiar and
forcible application in this case. Almost everything
may be said to depend upon the promptitude of that
assistance which shall enable the Company to go to
work again at once, and endeavour to perfect their
expensive and gigantic experiment. An apprehen-
sion expressed by the same noble lord, that if, as
regards public works, a guarantee were once intro-
duced, no enterprise would hereafter be undertaken
without one, was quite out of place, we cannot but
think, in such a case as that referred to. A Tele-
graph through the' Atlantic is no every-day under-

BANKRUPTCY COURT. -Re H. GREATONEX, hotel
keeper, Llanrwst, applied for his certificate. Mr. Evans,
for the assignee, offered no opposition. A certificate was
granted of the second class. Thomas Hall, Liverpool,
broker, came up on his last examination. He was opposed
by Mr. Deighton, instructed by Mr. E. Banner, for the
assignee. The bankrupt was examined at length, after
Which the case was adjourned till Friday.

FIRE IN THE CANADA DOCK.— Shortly after morn, yes-
terday, a fire was discovered in the passenger galley of the
ship E. C. Scranton, loading for Cronstadt. Alarm was
immediately given, and a plentiful supply of water being at
hand, the flames were quickly subdued, not, however,
befoxe seven bales of cotton were destroyed. The causes of
the fire was, that the cotton was stowed too near the cook's

CRESCENT CHAPEL LITERARY SOCIETY.—The usual
weekly meeting of the above society was held in the school-
rooms, William Henry-street, on Wednesday evening last,
when a debate, opened in the negative by Mr. J. B. Per-
cival, on the question, " Is Manhood Suffrage Desirable ?"
was actively, discussed. Messrs. T. Maltman, J. Parkin,
Penny, Morrison, and Hughes, and Messrs. Labouchere,
Paxter, Moseley, Reader, Josiah Smith, and Porkett, the
affirmative. On being put to the meeting, the affirmative
was carried by a majority of two, the votes being 11 to 9.
MADAME CELESTE'S BENEFIT.—We have only space to
call attention to the fact that Madame Celeste's benefit, and
last appearance but one, takes place in the Amphitheatre
this night. The pieces announced for performance are the
" Flowers of the Forest," in which- Madame Celeste will
appaar for the first time in Liverpool, in her original
character of Cynthia ; and " St. Mary's Eve," in which she
will appear as Madeline. Madame Celeste's talents as an
actress fully entitle her to receive that mark of respect
which, upon a benefit night, is so often accorded to far
inferior performers—a crowded house.

taking, but one which may well be taken as an
exception to undertakings in general,—more parti-
cularly in the first experiments of its practicability,
—and therefore it may have a Government guarantee
without any such fear of consequences as that which
Lord. REDESDALE said he apprehended. That
guarantee, we trust, will be given, and given imme-
diately, in order that the great experiment may be
promptly, and, let us hope, successfully proceeded
with.

WORKHOUSE COMKETTEE.—The usual weekly meeting
of this committee was held yesterday, Mr. Churchwarden
Cropper in the chair. The other members present were :
Messrs. Owen, Smith, Broome, Critchley, Peck, Williams,
Bairstow, and Syred. The medical officer reported that the
number of deaths during the week was 22 ; of whom 7
were men, 7 women, 2 children above two years old, and 6
infants. The number of patients under treatment last
week was 662 ; new cases admitted since, 135 ; cured and
discharged, 151; now remaining under treatment 624 ; of
whom 45 are fever, 15 itch, and 5 small-pox cases. The
master of the vagrant shed reported that the total number
of persons relieved in this department during
the week ending 12th inst. was 263, of whom 182
were men, 60 women, and 21 children. This showed an
increase over last week of 12 males, and in females a de-
crease of 16; and in children an increase of 6. Nett decrease

A REFORM 'MEETING was held in Dublin yesterday, Sir
James Power in the chair. Resolutions were passed to
the effect that the conduct of the Government, in refusing
information as to the course they intended to pursue with
regard to a Reform Bill for Ireland, is disrespectful and
offensive to the representatives and Irish people ; that the
amount of qualification for franchisement should not exceed
a £5 rental in boroughs,,and that freemen franchise ought
to be abolished ; that the rental qualification for a lodger
franchise, as proposed for England, is beyond the means of
the Irish industrial clasSes ; also that the protection ballot
is essential to the free exercise and constitutional enjoyment
of the franchise, and that the proposal to permit votes to
be taken by means of voting-papers, was most objectionable ;
that the Irish representatives in the House of Commons
should be considerably augmented, and the three countries
should be simultaneously considered .as part of the general
scheme.

2. When compared with the corresponding week of last
year there appeared a decrease of only 2. The Governor
reported that the number in the house last week was 2,194 ;
number this week, 2,201, being an increase of 7 on the
week; the number in the corresponding week of last year
was 2,779, showing a decrease on that period of 585. A

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conversation took place in reference to the transfer of the
chaplain of the Industrial Schools to the workhouse.
Mr. Bairstow said, Mr. Holmes had proved an efficient
chaplain at the Workhouse formerly, but he had not been
successful as a head master at the Industrial Schools, and he
was of opinion that it would be wise to transfer him again
to the Workhouse. The chairman thought it was A. strange
argument, that because Mr. Holmes had proved inefficient
at the schools, therefore, he should get a rise of salary, by

THE FIRST GOVERNOkg Or HONG KONG.—It is announced
that the Governorship of Hong Kong will cease to be held
by the Superintendent of Trade in China, and that the first
Governor under the new system will be Mr. Hercules Geo•
Robinson, at present Governor of St. Christopher. Mr.
Robinson, if we are correct as to his identity, may in some
measure be said to be a beau ideal of a Derbyite nominee
quick, clever, shallow, qualified in no particular way for the
precise post to which he is appointed, and having that
general aptitude for everything which usually bodes no
special success with anything. He has been but a few
years Governor of St. Christopher, and previously held
various ephemeral positions under Conservative govern-
ments. He is an Irishman by birth, son of Admiral
Robinson (the author, we believe, of a clever naval book
lately published, entitled Sea Drift), is married to a
daughter of Lord Valentia, and is, we have heard, con-
nected with or related to Lord Naas, the present Irish
Secretary. Mr. Robinson was for a short time in the
army, but sold out, was for a short time a Poor-law
Commissioner in Ireland, but resigned, and was
appointed by Lord Naas Chief Commissioner of
a fairs and markets commission issued in Ireland some
years ago, upon whose report a bill is at present being
founded. He is still very young for a public man; was
never in China, and, indeed, up to the time of his appoint-
ment to the Governorship of St. Christopher, was never, we
believe, out of Great Britain. If this gentleman be actually
the person appointed to the Hong Kong post, we think we
should rather congratulate the Government upon their good
fortune in providing for another of the Barnacles, than the
inhabitants of the Governorship upon the commercial and
political qualifications of their Governor.

being promoted as chaplain of the workhouse. The Rev.
Rector Campbell thought Mr. Holmes would make a very
gootl chaplain for the workhouse —head master at the
schools was a very different position. The matter dropped
without any definite result being arrived at. The remainder
of the business contained nothing possessing any public
interest.

ToxTrrn BOARD or GUARDIANS.—The annual weekly
meeting of this board was held yesterday, at the public-.
offices, Park-road. The guardians present were—Mr.
Joseph Harrison, chairman, and Messrs. John Moss, John
Wilson, William Johnson, William Baynes, Arthur
Grindrod, Samuel Siddeley, William Leyland, Henry Ley-
land, W. li. Ogden, J. B. Hughes, and M. A. Johns. Mr.
Gough, governor of the West Derby Workhouse, reported
that there were in that establishment, belonging to Toxteth-
park, 364 this week, corresponding week last year 421. In
the hospital ward, 40. Cheques were granted to the
relieving officers for £llB ; to defraying. travelling expenses
of the candidates for the situations of surgeons, £6. Mr.
Moss said he was surprised to find that a number of the
gentlemen had left their post before the business was com,
pleted, but the reason which he rose was in consequence of
what occurred at that board on Tuesday last. It had been re-
ferred to by an article in the NORTHERN TIMES, which
he had not seen, but had heard of, and he believed it con-
tained a great deal of truth. He had only to say that if he
was to be subjected to the personalities and insults which
he had received on that occasion, he would consider that
sufficient to absolve him from attending There had been
a good deal of contention caused by some gentlemen who
were unwilling to speak out at the board, which he wished
they would do, for the sake of truth. He had only to say
that, if such personalities were continued, he would have
nothing more to do with the board. The Clerk then read
a letter from one of the Poor-law Inspectors, notifying his
intention to hold an enquiry as to the dismissal of Dr.
Gilmour, on Tuesday next, at which any of the
guardians might be present, if they thought proper.
A letter was also read from the guardians of the Merthyr
Tydvil Union, of Wales. The letter sought the co-opera-
tion of Toxteth guardians in a petition to Parliament to
place the county rates under the control of the ratepayers,
and not the magistrates, who were irresponsible. Mr.
Hughes explained, that what was complained of was, that
the ratepayers were called upon to pay money over which
they had no control. The chairman said, he thought the
overseers ought to take the matter up and give it their
serious consideration. The matter then dropped. Some
conversation ensued with regard to entering on the minutes
the reports of the visiting committee from time to time.
This ended the business.

OUR NEW Dom BILL.—The report we are presenting,
day by day, of the proceedings before the committee of the
House of Commons on this bill, while it shows the strong
case which its promoters are enabled to make out for the
necessity of further dock accommodation at the Liverpool
side of the Mersey, presents at the same time the most
striking evidence of the still growing increase of the trade
of the port. The remark of Mr. Hartley, the eminent
engineer of the docks, that " we have no sooner had a dock
ready at Liverpool than it has been occupied," coupled as
it was with the statement, that a portion of the timber trade
being now carried on with much inconvenience at the south
end a dock at the north end, as proposed, had become
indispensable, certainly, to go no further, furnishes reasons
for the present measure, which it would be difficult to
impugn. The supposed objection, as our readers are well
aware, is the more urgent necessity that is alleged to
exist of first completing the docks at Birkenhead ; and
Mr. Hartley, it Would be seen by the report
of the proceedings we published yesterday, was
subjected to a lengthened cross-examination by the counsel
of the opponents as to the relative facilities and accommo-
dation for vessels of large tonnage at Birkenhead, and at
the north end of Liverpool, with the view of showing that
the accommodation at Birkenhead was better and safer.
But nothing, we think, was elicited to weaken the case of
he Dock Board. The chairman of the parliamentary porn-

The Rev. Dr. Macfarlane and Mr. Malcolm, agents for
the Presbytery of Edinburgh, had an interview with the
Lord Advocate on Wednesday, the 15th, in reference to the
annuity tax in that city.

I:11E GERMAN TENOR, HERR REICRARDT.—After a
most successful professional tour through France, Austria,
Germany, Poland, Prussia, and Holland, this popular
operatic vocalist has returned to London for the season.
Herr Reichardt created quite a furore at the Royal Opera-
house, at Amsterdam, by his performances i n "Les Hugue-
nots," " Lucrezia Borgia," " 11 Barbiere,&e., &c.
THE ITALIAN QUESTION AND TIIE POPE.—A Paris letter
in the Nord says : " There is much talk here of a mdinoire
which the Abbe-Prince Lucien Bonaparte has sent to the
Emperor upon the Italian question, treated in the interest
of the temporal power of the Holy See. It is known that
the Abbe-Prince Bonaparte was educated at Rome, is very
' devoted to the Pope, and has up to this time refused all the
honours offered him by the Emperor."

THE LA';
-EST TELEGRAMS.

SARDINIA.

MAIN, March, 17.—Private letters from the
announce that the Austrians had
eanmenced preparations to lay mines, for the
purpose of blowing up the bridge of Buffalora,
over the Ticine. The number of volunteers arrived
here already exceeds 6,000 men.

frontiers

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THE PAPAL STATES.

The Pope has ordered public prayers for peace.
ROME, March 17.—N0 further despatch of rein-
forcements has been notified to the Pope by France.
It is asserted in some quarters that a note of the
Papal Government has been lately addressed to the
Duke De Grammont, requesting the evacuation of
the states of the church by the French troops as
early as possible

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AUSTRIA.

TRIESTE, March 17. —The Austrian Lloyd's steamer
just arrived, brings news from Constantinople to the
12th and 17th March. Husseim Pacha, who was
lately arrested for issuing counterfeit coin, has been
condemned to 15 years' imprisonment.