Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-11-01 00:00:00

moreover, had he accepted it, the result would inevit-
ably be to weaken his influence in the Council. He re-
gretted very much to see that the rates of the town were
everlastingly increasing, and yet there was a movement
to have a second stipendiary magistrate. He could not
see what use there was for this functionary, especially
when we had such a very able local bench. lie thought
we might rub on very well for the present. Mr. Steains
concluded by counselling his friends to be early at the
poll, and if they placed him in a majority of twenty-
five by twelve o'clock, he would not be afraid of the
result. (Cheers).
Several other gentlemen addressed the meting, after-
which• the proceedings concluded by a vote of thanks to
the chairman.

ST. ANNE'S WARD.

A large meeting of the friends and supporters of Mr.
Clarke -Aspinall, the Liberal candidate for this ward,
was held last night, in the Odd Fellows' Hall, St.
Anne-street. The chair was occupied by Mr. Simon
Frazer, and on the platform were .Dr. Cooper, Mr. H.
Middlehurst, Mr. R. Cameron, Mr. Jabez Jones, Mr.
J. Hobbs, Mr. H. M'Alpine, Mr. Trippier, Mr. Lancas-
ter, Mr. W. Bramfit, Mr. Fairhurst, Mr. Chesney, &c.
The CHAIRMAN, in opening the proceedings, censured
the conduct of Mr. Nickson in merely replying to the
bill, denying that he was an Orangeman, and not
answering the other questions.
Mr. TRIPPIER moved, and Mr. H. Middlehurst
seconded, a resolution, declaring " That the best thanks
of the electors of St. Anne's Ward are due to, and are
hereby given to, Mr. James Mellor, for his valuable and
efficient services as their representative in the Town.
Council for the past three years." The resolution was
carried unanimously.
Mr. ASPINALL then came forward, and was received
with reiterated applause. He said, how he could come
before them so soon after that great Conservative de-
monstration in the Philharmonic Hall, on Saturday night
—the banquet to Lord Derby ;—but it was over, and the
tickets far soup were all distributed. He told the electors
of Li\verpool—(he was afraid he did not address himself
much' to the ladies)—two very important things—it
struck him (Mr. Aspinall) that it was slightly unbecom-
ing in him (Lord Derby) to say that Joseph Christopher
Ewart was an amiable man, but that he was not fit to
represent Liverpool, and that he should not after the
next election. That was one of the statements made by
this great statesman. The other statement was that this
country was going to ruin, if they did not return pro-
per members to parliament ; but if they returned such a
member as Mr. Legh for South Lancashire, there was
still a hope for England and all that England held dear.
Mr. Aspinall then went on to comment upon the speech
made by Mr. Nickson at a meeting the other night, and
his (Mr. Aspinall's) remarks and views ware received
with prolonged applause.
Mr. FAIRHURST then moved a resolution, pledging
the meeting to use its utmost exertions to return Mr.
Aspinall as their representative in tha Town Council,
and urged them to be early at the poll.
Mr. CHESNEY having seconded the resolution, it was
carried by acclamation.
A vote of thanks was then given to the Chairman,
after which the proceedings terminated.

EVERTON AND KIRKDALE WARD.
MEETING OF MR. CARNE'S FRIENDS.
Last night, a meeting of the friends and supporters of Mr.
Came; the Conservative candidate for the representation of
Everton and Kirkdale ward in the Town Council, was held at
the "Griffin" Hotel, Derby-road, Bootle, Mr. Chilton in the
chair. Amongst those present were—Messrs. Hughes, Crosth-
waite, T. Brakeill, H. T. Wilson, T. H. Holderness, Rober t
Hutchison, W. P. Hornby, J. C. Dreaper,, Winstanley, Hall,.
Ashcroft, Moore, Jones, A: Smith, Meadows, Wright, Orme,
Pulford, M Cubbin, Clark, and Spalding. •
The CHAIRMAN said, the last time he had the pleasure of
meeting the electors was on the occasion of the"eleetion of Mr.
Crosthwaite, when there was an immense majority in favour of
that gentleman. That event he trusted was an omen of the
result on the morrow, when he trusted Mr. Came would
triumph. (Hear, hear.) He would like publicly to express a
disclaimer on his part and on the part of the committee, of a
placard which appeared on the wails to-day. (Hear, hear.)
He was certain they would never further their cause by any
personal abuse, and he was exceedingly sorry that any over-
zealous partisan of the Conservative party should have chosen
such a means of attacking Mr. Stitt. (Hear, hear.) Now the
Conservatives had other and good reasons for embarking in
a contest of this kind. (Hear, hear.) He would speak in terms
of great respect of Mr. Stitt, but he believed that Mr. Stitt
did not represent the sentiments of Everton Ward. (Hear,
hear.) He had also allied himself with an extreme party which
was determined, as far as possible, to give a complexion to the
formation of the Council, which was evidently opposed, not
only to the sentiments of Everton Ward, but, he believed, to
those of the town at large. (Hear, hear.) Who were the real
defenders of the rights of the town ? The Radicals ? (" No.")
Certainly they were not. (Hear, hear.) The men who attacked
the town dues were the Whigs and Radicals of Manchester
and although the Radical Mr. Jeffery, of Liverpool, and others
opposed the spoliation bill, they did it from private considera-
tions, and not on the grounds of public principle. It was
the Conservatives who fought for the town dues and only
at the last when they found the dues were doomed, gave
them up, but not without a manly struggle and a determination
to obtain compensation for them. (Loud cheers.) They suc-
ceeded; but if the Conservatives of Liverpool had not a great
Conßrvative body, in the shape of the House of Lords, to look
up to, the town-dues would have been swept away by the Ra-
dical party without any compensation whatever. The same
men—the Mdnchester Radicals—were opposed to the rating of
the docks. There was an abuse that wanted reforming, and
yet the Radicals were opposed to that reform. The Radicals
might cry out about reform, but they never did effect sound
practical reforms such as the Conservatives had achieved.
They promised to the large m asses of the people that they
should share in the representation of the country ; but the real
practical reforms which would do the people good were en-
tirely overlooked by the Radicals. It was Lord Derby's
Government who brought in a general bill for the rating of all
property. whether national or local, so that all property might
fairly and honestly contribute to the support of the poor, as it
was the intention of the poor-laws that it should do. (Hear,
hear, and cheers.) He now begged to present to them Mr.
Came. (Loud cheers.)
Mr. CARNE, after having gratefully acknowledged the
reception that had been accorded to him, observed that,
although he could not boast of a long service in the Council
Chamber, yet could say that he had for many years served the
parish during a period of difficulty of a more than ordinary.
nature. ((;tear, hear.) He had the time, and he believed he
had the experience necessary to enable him to represent them
fairly in the Town Council. Nothing could give him greater
pleasure than to co-operate with their excellent friend and
representative, Mr. Cresthwaite, and to do all that he could
for the benefit of the town, but he ought not to be called upon
to give pledges. (Hear, hear.) In reference to Mr. Stitt's
remarks as to the Corporation schools, he (Mr. Came)
would say that although that gentleman did not say he
would withdraw the Bible from the Corporation schools,
yet he did express a wish to have the Corporation
schools conducted on such principles that all creeds might came
there for education. But did not they all know that, in order
to accomplish that end, the Bible must be, cast out from the
schools? (Hear, hear.) Would the Catholics enter it if the
Bible were read there? (No.) Then upon this point he was
clear. He could conceive no reason whatever why the Bible
should be thrust from the schools ; and they might rely
upon it that his utmost exertions should be used to con-
tinue the schools as they are. (Hear, hear, and cheers.)
He thought that nothing could be more satisfactory to all proper
minded persons than a knowledge that their children would
receive in those schools not merely a secular but a religious
education. (Cheers). Surely they must all believe that that
book ought to be read in the public schools if education was to
be of any use ; and, surely, they believed in that book, as even
the Catholics did, in spite of their objection to it being used as
a class book. Once for all, he would ask why should that
book be excluded ? He could see no reason ; he believed there
was no good reason, and he therefore would maintain those
schools which had been for so many years the boast of Liver-
pool---(cheers)---schools that were conducted on correct prin-
ciples, and in •which great numbers of the children of :the
working classes had been educated. Truly, if those schools
were closed it would he a great misfortune to the town---
(hear, hear)---for if they were to rely on private subscriptions
for the maintenance of those schools theymight not get the neces-
sary amount, and failure would be the result. Now, in reference
to the dock-rating question, the speaker expressed himself
strongly in favour of rating the docks. On the question of
equalising the rates in the out-townships Mr. Came said he
quite agreed that the present inequality was a great hardship,
and if any well-digested scheme were propounded to remedy
the evil, it should have his cordial support. He could not
pledge himself on the subject of a composition of the water
rates upon cottage property, but he would say frankly and
openly that he would grant to the cottage owners all that
the condition of the water estate would allow him to vote
to them. There could be no question but that when the
cottage owner saved the Corporation so much by
collecting the rates on cottage property, and by paying on
Property whether in occupation or not, they were entitled to
to every reduction that could honestly be made. It strongly
condemned the issuing of the placards referred to by the chair-
man. Mr. Came referred to the question of the stoppage of
the town clocks, explaining that the course pursued by the
churchwardens on that occasion was dictated by a strict sense
of duty, although, under similar circumstances, he would not
again pursue the same course. (Applause.) Having urged
that the Conservative cause was at stake, and the consequent
necessity that arose for every Conservative voter being early
at the
Mr. DREAPER moved, and Mr. HALL seconded, i resolution
pledging the meeting
poll this morning, Mr. Came sat down amid loud cheers.
to accord an active support to Mr. Came,
of whose sentiments they approved.
The resolution was carried unanimously.
Mr. HUTCHISON moved, and Mr. CROSTHWAITE seconded, a
vote of thanks to the chairman, which was carried by accla-
mation, and the meeting broke up.
SECOND MEETING OF MR CARNE'S FRIENDS.
Later in the evening a ..arge and crowded meeting of Mr.
Carne's friends was held at the " Queen's Arms," Great
Homer-street, Mr. Thomas Chilton, presiding. Amongst the