Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-11-06 00:00:00

THE NORTIIER,N TIMES.---LIVERPOOL, FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 6, 1857.

FOREIGN INTELLIGENCE,

FRANCE.

PARIS, WEDNESD EYNNINO.

M. Billanit, Minister of the Interior, has by Imperial
decree been charged with the ad interim administration of
the department of justice during the absence of M.
Abbatucci.

The Bourse has been very unsettled, and speculators
still continue under apprehensions about the measures
which the Banks of England and France may adopt in
order to protect their bullion. It has been reported that
80 millions of francs in English bills, and 40 millions in
French bills on the United States have been returned
protested.
A Paris letter in the Independence of Brnssells says—
A Papal bull, giving a canonical institution to the
Faculty of Theology of Paris, to the Sorbonne, and to
eight other Faculties in France, will, it is said, be shortly
promulgated. A non-official copy of this document has
been sent to the French Government, in order that it may
be aware of its contents. Among the conditions laid
down for the institution of these Faculties of Theology is
That of the renunciation by France of the four articles of
1882. I do not think that the French Government will
ever consent to accept the bull with such a clanse. There
must be a particular nego'iation on that point, or the
Sovereign Pontiff will be requested, to suppress a con.
ditioa which is humilating for the Church of France.
The Amiens Chamber of Commerce has proposed to the
government a droll remedy for the financial crisis. It
recommends that the usury laws, which limit the rate of
interest to 6 per cent. in commercial transactions and 5
per cent. in civil matters, should be maintained as a
general ru'e, but that whenever the Bank of France avails
itself of its privilege to raise its discount beyond the
ordinary rates, commercial people may be allowed to
charge # per cent. snore than the bank, and all other persons
less. It appears to be seriously believed in Amiens
that such a purely arbitrary measure as this, setting at
nought the elementary principles of the laws of supply
and demand, would prevent the wholesale discharge of
workmen from the factories, which is considered to be a
too probable consequence of the continuance of t'ie crisis•

The Fatr•ie announces that M. de Thouvenel is so much
offended with the new Grand V:zier, Reschid Pacha, for
having allowed himself to be made a tool of by Lord
Stratford de Redcliffe, that he has resolved not to see
him, and to transact official business exclusively through
the Turkish Minister for Foreign Affairs. These childish
quarrels between the French and English ambassadors
at Constantinople really cannot be suffered to go on
much longer. Although the organs of the French Foreign
Office are instructed to pour vials of wrath upon the
head of Lrrd Stratford de Redcliffe, and to represent that
he dots just what he likes with the Sultan for his private
amusement, and quite independently of tha present
scandalous situation were to be put an end to by the
speedy recall of M. de Thouvenel• There is a report that
ho is to be replaced by M• de Bourqaency, the present
ambassador at Vienna, who, it may be remembered, was
second plenipotentiary for France in the Paris Con-
ferences.

The In 1 epenclance asserts that recruiting for the English
service is going on secretly in France, and that 100 f bounty
is giving to each recruit. To make the matter appear
more certain, the correspondent who furnishes this news
says that he saw I,ooof paid down on one occasion to 10
recruits. The men thus raised are, it is said, to be sent
to India by way of Alexandria and Suez, as quietly as
possib:e, and when arrived at their destination are to be
commanded by French officers.
It is reported that a draft of a complete literary code,
forming a supplement to the Code Militaire, the Code
Rural, &c., is now before the Council of State.

it was occasioned by dissensions amongst the
Ministers about questions of Finance. The Espana,
a semi-official organ, .declares, however, that "for the
the present the rumours possess no importance " and that
"it only mentions them to satisfy the curiosity of its
readers." The Clamor Politico had been seized. The
Qieen, having entered the last month of her pregnancy,
had commenced a series of visits to nine churches, her
first being to Santa Maria, to worship the image of the
Virgin of Almudena. The report drawn up by the
advocates of Queen Christiana, in answer to the accu-
sations brought against her in the parlirmentary investi-
gation to which her acts were recently subjected, was
about to he published. It was believed that the state of
siege of Seville would be shortly raised.

borrow any portion of the sum of £150,000 placed at my
disposal to cover this d felt. It is not my intention at
present to propose any alteration in the customs tariff,
nor to increase the amount of revenue raised by indirect
taxation.
The estimates of expenditure are prepared, and will
be immediately laid before you. The utmost economy,
consistent with a desire to provide for the growing
wants of this rising country, has been observed in their
preparation.
The collection and distributlon of the duties on goods
entering the colony by way of the River Murray has
been the subject of correspondence between the govern-
ment of New South Wales, Victoria, and South Australia,
which will be laid before you. It is hoped that this
correspondence will lead to the completion of a temporary
arrangement satisfactory to all parties, and ultimately to
the adoption of one tariff of customs dues common to all
the Australian co!onies. A bill will be submitted to you
for the purpose of legalising the contemplated arrange-
ment. _ _ _ • _

The temporary and varied characfer of a considerable
portion of the public debt, and the inconvenience which is
felt in some instances from the want of a desirable mode
of permanently investing trust and other moneys, has r:?n•
dere(' it expedient to fund the debt of the colon) on certain
conditions. A measure for this purpose has accordingly
been prepared, and will be laid before you.
It has been thought advisable to modify the present
system of receipts and payments at the Treasury, by
relieving the Minister of Finance and Trade from the
anomalous position of combining a office with
that of a public accountant, responsible for the custody
and expenditure of the public money. A bill to give
effect to this measure will be presented to you.
A bill to establish the office and define the duties of
the Auditor-General will bo re-submitted to you on an
early day.
HoNcURABLE GEMILFMEN OF THE LEGISLATIVE CoIINCIL,
AND GENTLEMEN OF THE LEGISLATIVa ASSEMBLY.

The great importance of making adequate arrangements
for the management of the lighthouses and harbours on
the coast, and the supervision and regulation of the pilot
establishments, has suggested the propriety of appointing
a board, whom it is proposed to incorporate and entrust
with the performance of • these duties. The necessary
measure has been prepared for this purpose.
I shall lay before you important correspondence which
has led to the establishment of banking and commercial
agencies for New South Wales in London, upon terms
advantageous to the colony.
A provisional arrangement has been entered into with
the loyal Steam Packet Company for a monthly postal
communication between Southampton and Sydney, via
Panama and New Z •aland. Should this scheme he carried
into effect, it will give to these colonies the advantage of
a steam communication with England every fortnight.
The correspondence on the subject will be immediately
lai:before you, and I earnestly I °commend the measure
to your consideration and approval.
The colony has been visi ed during the past few manths
by severe and almost unprecedented fl ,ods in various
parts, but it is a subject of sincere gratitude to Provi-
dence, that these visitations have not been attended with
any serious loss of life.

The commercial and monetary state of the country is
sound and satisfactory, .and I am most thankful to be
able to state that prosperity attends all interests in the
community.
Various important measures, to which I need not
specially allude, will also be presented to you, and will, I
am sure, in common with those to which I have adverted,
r,ctive your attentive consideration. I again assure you
of my earnest desire to co-operate most z oalously and
cordially wi'h the legislature to the best of my ability for
the public good ; and I sincerely trust that the result of
your deliberations may, under the blessing of Almighty
God, conduce to the happiness and prosperity of the
important community whose interests are committed to
y• u • charge.
The address having been concluded, his Excellency
retired in the same order as he enterad• The Council
then adj iurned until four o'clock in the afternoon.

THE RIGHT HON. M T. BAINES AND THE
LEEDS CHAMBER OF COMMERCE.

The members of the Council of the Leeds Chamber rf
Commerce had an interview on Tuesday with the Right
lion. M. T. Baines, M.P., at the offices, 4, Benson's-
hnildings, Park-row, for the purpose of conferring with
that gentleman on various topics of commercial im-
portance.

Mr. Baines, accompanied by his brother, Edw. Baines.
Esq., met the members at the tim3 appointed (11 a.m.)
and was very cordially received•

P. Lupton, E-q., vice-president of the chamber, was
called to the chair, and opened the proceedings by giving
a general review of the su'ljects that had occupied the
attention of the council since their last interview with

Tho attention of the right hon. gentleman was then
drawn to the opinions entertained by the chamber
generally on the following criestions
• •

"1. The delay occasioned by the present post-office
regulations in the trans-nissi )n of letters from this
district to the continent.
2. The Stade Dues abolition.
"3. Registration of partnership.
"4. Bankruptcy and ins3lvenly aimiaistration reform

"5. Provision to receive dividends on government
stork at places where the Bank of England has estsblish•
merits, and for transfer of stock at those places.

"6. The probable a ivantages, in a commercial point
of view, to be derived from Dr. Livingston's discoveries
in Central Africa, if, by the assistance of government, a
communication with that regioa eta b 3 opened by the
river Z =best.

"7. The attempted revival, on the part of Feance, of
what is practically a species of slave trade, by encourag
ing the immigration from Lagos to Abbeokut a, on the
West Coast of Africa, of negroes into the French West
Indian colonies. In addition to the earls likely to arise
from such a plan, it was pointed out by Mr. Jewitt that it
threatened to interfere seriously with the legitimate com_
merce which was hopqiully beginning in that part of
Africa."

Mr. Baines listened attentively to the remarks made on
the above subjects, with most of which he perfectly coin-
cided, and promised to use his best effoes in the proper
quarter to secure, as far as practicable, the alterations and
reforms suggested. With regard to the last question, that
of an attemp'el revival of the African slave trade, Mr.
Baines considered it one of painful interest. It was one
also of some difficufty, it being a delicate matter for the
G wernment of this country to interfere with the free
agency of a power like France ; he, nevertheless, thought
much might be done by an expression of public opinion in
Enzland, which he had little doubt would have a powerful
ilitlience in the direction required. Mr. Baines the❑
requested the council would authorise Mr. Swan to
furnish him with the necessary memoran la with regard
to the action already taken by the chamber, on the
questions to which they had just drawn his attention,
and assured them he should be hippy at all times to
communicate with them individually, or through the
secretary, whenever occasion required.
A. vote of thanks having been given to Mr. Baines for
his kind offer and his attention to the intere.ts of the
(.n mber, the meeting broke up.

SACRILEGIOUS AND MALTCIOUS OUTRAGE. —0(1 Ftilav
night, 30th tilt, some evil disposed persons committed
a moot wanton outrage at Muckamore Church. Failing to
break open the front and vestry doors—hoth of which beer
deep marks of the force and violence used—'hey completely
battered in one of the side windows, and thereby effected
an entrance. In the vestry they foie ,d open a press, front
which they to k away th 3 communion plate; an', breaking
open a locked money hoz, they plundered its contents,
which amonnted to £1 ls„84. They also injured sev,ral
Bibles and Prayer-hooks, which were dist ibuted thr.neh
the pests ; and, without any apparent obj et, de'ib r ttely
smashed several panes of glass in ocher windows besides
that thr ugh which they entered. The melici nas de`erm--
nation of the thieves may be imagined, when we add that
the window frame which they destroyed was made 0! strong
metal, and that several large atones, weighing from 5 ba
to 12 lbs., were found nen` morning inside the church.—
, Northern Whig.
PRoP3sED Br worm lan DELHI.—The High C')urch
Party are making an effort to turn recent events in I t
to acco ant for the immediate erection of a biskepric there,
and if certain rum )urs which are afloat tu-n out to be
correct, they are very likely to accomplish th tt object. A
correspondont of the Guardian, writing upon the suhj ct
says :—" It was in conternielatioe before the mutiny broke
out to found a bishop's s°e at Agra for North West India.
But for, our timidity, Delhi w uld pre!) tbly have been
selected a; the most appropriate si`n. No such false
licacy can now be pleaded. If Delhi is to stand, the
Sing's pal ce, of con se, will be turned iato the 8,0 of
Government.. Let the Janina Musjid, every red granite
of which we have purchased with our blood, be converted
into a cathedral church. Surely this woul I be at once art
act of Christi n revenge, a heavy and I :sting bl )w to the
accursed principles of the Mahometan and the Hindoo,
and a noble memorial of our slaugbtertd countryman."

MR. BERNAL OBBORNE, M.P , ON THE BALLOT.

In the present state of silence, enforced or voluntary, of
Mr. Bernal Osborne, M.P , it will be interesting to the
electors of Middlesex to recal the opinions of their former
representative on the great question of the Ballot, while

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it may gratify the electors of Dover to know what their
present member's opinions on that subject were when he
could venture to expeess them.
to the debate on Mr. Hume's motion for Reform in
Parliament on the 6th of July, 1848, Mr. Osborne said :
The house is bound, if it means to carry out its
authority in respect to bribery, and is sincere in its
horror of ethe practice, to take immediate steps for
increasing the area of voting. Tne hon. member for
Bucks has dwelt on the superiority of the county he
represents. I once had the honour of sitting for a place
in that county (Wycombe). and will tell the honourable
gentleman who now represents that borough, that had
the voters had the protection of the ballot, he • would
not have been elected. There is only one borough
out of four in Bucks which is not open :to
undue influence, and it is sliding from its virtue; it
has been wooed by a gay seducer, remarkable for the
beauty of his Notes ! If the House wish to put an end
to bribery and intimidation (those Gemini which were
commonly borne at the time of a general election),
members would consider the expediency of giving their
constituents the protection of the ballot. All the
arguments yet used in opposition to the ballot are founded
more on sentiment than on reason. The noble Lord
(J. Russell) had referred to America and said, that every
man's vote was known there though they had the ballot.
This was a proof that the ballot did away with
intimidation and bribery, and hence a man was careless
whether his vote was known or not. The noble Lord
had also referred to the electors of the National Assembly
in France, where the ballot was resorted to, and this he
seemed to think a clinching argument which was to
fright the Isle from its propriety. But under the
former dynasty of France, nut of a population of 34 000.000
not 200,000 mea had voted for the election of Deputies,
and it was owing to the ballot alone that any
independent men bound their way into the chamber. The
superiority of the ballot was proved in the recent elections
in that country, for it was only by its protection that any
men 'conservative principles could have been returned.
The nsnal argument against the ballot is a sort of hustings
declamation that it is ue-English, but is it not more un-
Eaclish to traffic in votes and make a poor trader vote
against h's conscience ? Probably many members are
aware that the committee of four who sat on the Reform
Bid in 1831, consisting of Lord Althorp, Lord J Russell,
Lard Dancannon, and Lord Durham, recommended that
the ballott should be introduced. This cannot be denied,
and when the Chandos clause was introduced in this House
Lori Althorp declared that it would be a great step
towards Tendering the ballot necessary, and Lord Grey
used the same argument in the other llotl3o. I will ask
these twenty gentlemen who voted for the ballot in 1842,
some of whom used very hard language towards the
noble lord at the head of the government, whether any
of them would be swayed for an instant by the argument
with which the noble lord had opposed the ballot in
1843? Twenty supporters of the government and two
Cabinet Ministers voted for the ballot. I hope they will
be true to their convictions in 1812, and vote for it now.

To this must be appendel from the same speech a
prophecy, in which the hon. member, possessed by the
spirit of prophecy, and knowing not what he said, drew
by anticipation this correct portrait of himself.
Look at the Treasury Bench in this House, it is occu-
pied by either the scions or at' aches of the great Whig
families, chequered here and there with some man of the
people, just to give a populir tone to the comp .sition,
and if you find the representative of a large liberal cpn-
stituency in such company, you may be sure that his
former principles have been-ne sickly, and that his present
associates have treatei him as gipseys are reported to
treat stolen children—disfigured him to make him pass
for their own.

After reading this animated argument for the ballot—
and there is hardly a better one to be found in all the
ab'e speeches on the question, and comparing it with
Mr. Osborno's half-and-half feeble and apologetic doclara -
tion on the same question to the electors of I) wen—
Can Middlesex recognise her lost child P—Morning Star