Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-11-15 00:00:00

made these remar

but as he had

Markets Committee before, and had quite
curred with Mr. Johnson, he could not pass the

over 'in silence

Mr. RIDLEY thought that Mr. Johnson was not up
in all the markets proceedings, and there were many
reasons why he would like to see somebody else chair-
man. Mr. Johnson was not the man to meet the
opposition offered to the committee. It would be
in the recollection of many that a select com-
mittee was formed to investigate the manage-
ment of the markets. That committee brought
forward a report which was adopted by the
general committee. The whole of the committee was
for the appointment of a general inspector of the
markets, with the exception of the chairman and vice-
chairman, and from that other things arose. It ulti-
mately turned out that Mr. Luya was a defaulter; and,
when that came' to light, the chairman did not do as the
chairman ought to have done, for he went to the market
and did not find him at his office, an I then he sent him
a note, or left word for him, to meet him at his office.
-Mr. Luya did not go, but Mr. Hutchinson went, and the
chairman then wrote to Luya suspending him. The
fact of his sending that note was quite sufficient
to show that it was intended that Mr. Luya
should make himself scarce. Ile (Mr. Ridley)
had heard that Mr. Luya sent a note back in reply, to
say that his health was very bad, and that he was going
to the country for a time. They had no record of this
correspondence whatever, and he thought the whole of
it should have been laid before the committee. This,
in his opinion, would be
,in itself sufficient to justify
them in not reappointing :Mr. Johnson as chairman ;
but there was also another strong reason : he thought
that no member of the Council who represented Lime-
street -Ward should be the chairman of that committee,
because there was an influence brought to bear on the
people.

Mr. Alderman LLorn—l have been the representative
of Lime-street ward, and I can say say that no beef was
ever bought for me.

Mr. RIDLEY proceeded to say that Mr. Lloyd was an
exception to the general rule. He thought it would be
saving Mr. Johnson a great deal of trouble, as it must
be clear to himself that his endeavours had not been
successful, or satisfactory to the Council.
Mr. CuoppEn said the greater number of gentlemen
present were old members of the committee, and he
'hoped they would inform the new members what was
the feeling of the old committee, because that would
help them in their decision. Mr. Holden, Mr. Shimmin,
and Mr. Woodruff were old members, and if Mr.
Johnson would not take it as at all personal, for it
was not meant in that light, he should like to hear
their opinions. - -
Mr. Swmrsint said he believed Mr. Johnson did every-
thing in relation to his office to the best of his ability,
and perfectly honestly.
Mr. HOLDEN said, that as a member of the old com-
mittee, for his own part he had every confidence in Mr.
Johnson, but still he had to consider the Council in this
matter. The members present knew very well the
opposition that arose at every meeting of the Council,
and remarks were made, reflecting on the committee,
that were really astonishing. On the whole, he should
be, very sorry to lose Mr. Johnson as chairman of the
committee ; but there was the Council to consider.
Mr. ROGERS, as a member of the Council, was com-
pelled to say that the Markets Committee did not
possess the confidence of the Council, and the result
was, that generally a very successful opposition was
made to the confirmation of the proceedings of the com-
mittee. He thought, without any invidious feeling
towards Mr. Johnson, that it was very much to be re-
gretted that Mr. Johnson did not make • plain and
ittelligible statements to the Council, as the chairman
of so
wished
important a committee should do. If the com-
ofuttee
he Council, and' secure
if they
tthheey
.confidencehed to ofdo thethe townvery
best
they they could for the wished
large eisittate which was committed
to their care, he '
policy that some other gengtlemaitn should'would be judicious
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chairman. Personally he had no invidious febeelinao.ppoin.tedt
against
Mr. Johnson. He must altogether disclaim
an
of that sort, but, he felt bound to say that he shoyuld voteg
for some othergentleman than Mr. Johnson as chairman.
Mr. NICKSON said in reference to the question before
them it was necessary and inevitable that they should
waive all personal considerations. Being a new member
Of the Council, he could not refer officially to any of the
facts alluded to, indicating the incapacity or otherwise
de chairman of the Markets Committee, but
ne thing they had to grapple with,
the state of feeling out of doors,

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