Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-06-02 00:00:00

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you must not allow t

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he would ask,

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all.. Arid if there should arise in future " a
tctug who 1 e* not Joseph," why should they sit in judgment
;er' He thought it would be a great piece of
nence, and they ought not fora moinent to hesitate
ich the resolution of the finance committee.
‘,ll. Tobin said, the:subject had been _fully considered by
'ouncil in. 1857, A strong feeling arose on the public
-"rnittee was appointed by the council to go
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few inches, but further, than that it had not been. altered,
and in every respect he believed it to be the same plan. He
had it on the authority of 'the surveyor that it was the same
plan that was laid on the table in 1857. He "thought it
would. be unjust to postpone the matter further, as if the

question was coming before them for the first time. It
seemed to be, because this was likely to be a stepping-stone
to a high-level bridge, but he would ask the council, as
sensible men, did they believe that a great work such as
that, would be effected ,by their having spent £l,BOO, or
spent £l,BOO. lie thought it would not
interfere with their decision in any way.
Mr. Dover begged to say that it had been stated that he

not. havi

had been from ti

st opposed to this establishment. All
he had to say in answer to that charge was that he begged
to give such a statement the most unqualified contradiction,
and in the strongest language that it was possible for any

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gentleman to use. .._
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Mr. Kitchen said he was happy to hear the explanation
that had been given by Mr. Tobin as to the plans, and that

they were the same as were agreed to in 1857, at which time
ho had the honour of being a member of the library

regret V that the question had not received earlier
attention. Since the Islington-market had been
pulled -down, he had Theard great complaints from his
constituents, as to the state of the streets. On
one side there was continually much fighting and was a
general nuisance,' and the other was but little better, only
that it was enclosed. He thought the question was one of
'such great importance, that the plans should be immediately
proceeded with, and that no further delay should take place
in such a great improvement to that locality.
Mr. Alderman Cooper said he had been out, and consulted
Mr. Wighttnan, and he had found that the plans were the
same as 11r. Tobin had stated as those previously sanctioned
in 1357, except with "regard to a few inches as to width.
Surely, for such a trifling object as that, it was not worth
discussing, but leave the matter entirely in the hands of the

committee.
Mr. Holme replied : lie contended that the scheme
would improve the property in the neighbourhood, and
appealed to Mr. Anthony, as the owner of the most valuable
piece of property in the neighbourhood, to confirm that
opinion.
Mr. Anthony said he believed the result of the plan
would be to improve the property of the neighbourhood.
Mr. Holme said, if the council did not adopt these plans,
they must have an immense heap of steps going eighteen feet
high, and every one who came in a carriage to the building,
must leave the carriage up or down kill on an inclined
plane, and mount up the steps in the wet. As regarded
a remark made, that the public were under the impression
that by this scheme some mischief , was intended,' in refer-
ence, he presumed, to the high-level bridge scheme. If,
however, while putting the platform upon a necessary and
proper level, it happened to be the same level which might
be required hereafter, in case some future council
should .think it proper to carry out the high-level
scheme, he could not see that that fact was in
the slightest degree a reason for not adopting the present
proposal. He appealed to the common sense of all present
to say.whether it would ever be possible to carry out such
an undertaking as the high level-bridge scheme, without.
the full knowledge and consent of the council and th
public.
The Council then divided upon Mr. Dover
when there appeared—
For. —Aldermen : Dover and Parket

amendment,

Councillors

WOOdruff„---Sheil, Corbally, Haydock, Gladstone, S. It.
Jeffery, Cropper-9.
Against. -- The Mayor Aldermen : Bennett, Bold,
Cooper, Turner, Houghton, Holm°, Councillors : Stitt,
Crosthwaito, Anderson, Crellin, Shimmin, Barton, Turner,
Steains, Ryley, Bowring, W. P. Jeffreys, Ridley,
Wagstaff, Rogers, Tobin, Mozley, Job, Earle, Johnson,
Pict-on, Mellor, Kitchen, Hodson, Clint, Beckwith, Robert-
son, Farnwork Antony, and Vernori— 36.
•

The amendment was- therefore 1,
tion of the committee was confirme,

The recommenda-

Mr. Holme then referred to the report of the finance
committee, stating that £2,200 was available, if thought
necessary, for the construction of plunge baths in Everton.
'Under the Baths and Workhouses Act, the council had
still power to borrow £2,073 145.. The cost of the baths
at Everton was estimated at £2,200. If the council adopted
the recommendation to construct the baths, they would have
to vote £136 6s. out of the borough fund. The money
could be found if the council thought fit so to appropriate
it. (Hear, hear.) But he would venture to suggest that,
£2 200 appeared a very small sum, and he could not help
thinking that it would grow into something very much
larger, as the cost of the other baths had done. There was
great necessity for caution, and he desired it to be distinctly
understood, that the finance committee were merelyasked
to report on one point, as to whether the money was
available, and gave no opinion whatever as to the propriety
of appropriating the money to the purpose proposed.
Mr. Cooper stated that it was not proposed to do more
than erect a simple plunge-bath.
The report of the committee was adopted. The question
as to the construction of the baths, did not arise in con-
nection with it—its object merely being to inform the
council that so much money was available, if the
council should hereafter decide upon applying it to the
object proposed.
The-Town-clerk laid before the council the new table of
fees for the clerk-of-the-peace. He said, the table had been
prepared under the direction of the finance committee, on a
reasonable and proper scale. The object • had been to
calculate a fair and proper scale of fees upon all the business
of the office ; and, after a very careful cOusideration, the
table now submitted had been prepared.
," Mr. Woodruff asked whether the question between

THURSDAY, JUNE 2 1859

he clerk-of-the-peace and the council had been

ettled.
The Town-clerk : No, sir.
Mr. Woodruff : That question then does not affect

this ?
The Town-clerk answered in the negative.
Mr. Beckwith asked, what the amount of the fees would
be at the end of the next year, supposing the business done
to be the same as during the previous year.
The Town-clerk said, £893, as nearly as he could

calculate

Mr. Jeffer

~.Aeu, in what position the council would be,
supposing the revenues of the court were to fall short of the
salary of the clerk-o!-the-peace. The fees augmented
to more than double their amount immediately upon a
change having been adopted by Mr. Mansfield, according to
which a larger number of prisoners were committed to tb
sessions than had previously been the case.
the former system should be reverted to again, and the
diminished, until they fell below the amount of the clerk-
of-the-peace's salary, who would have to .make
deficiency ?

Suppose that

up the

The Town-clerk said the treasurer wo
Mr. Jeffery said he was satisfied with that ex
The rei
Mr. Holme moved that

111 have to do so
1-nation.

printin

was then ad

the tender of Mr

d for three yea

The work h

baen•very satisfactorily done before
much lower than anv of the other to
Mr. jeffory said Air. Picton had told him that the co

the- contract w

ration c

mode of coat

Te a large amount by altering their present
tinp• for nrintinz. Mr. Picton had been

called away, and he, therefore, "suggested that the contra

be. postponed for a month.
lUr. Holme said the contract had expired,
knoW, therefore, how he could adopt the su;

and he did not

iodale was about half lower than an:

.ess his motion, and the tender

`►lr. Mime then moved the confirmatien of the general

Mr. Stilt put a question in regard to the progress of
negotiations for the widening of Whitfield-lane, Everton.
lie sated that land necessary for the widening of that lane
could now be obtained at-one tenth of, the cost which would
be involved, if it were postponed for some years. The
neighbourhood would render some improve-

traffic i

[tent ther
Mr. ilo

ary in a short time,

me difficulti

;hat P 1

was a q

r far, himself;

)n village
•cred ttia

ement of Whitf
ry undertaking.

ane was a most urgent g

the full eonsi

e finally-promised that the subject should have
Aeration of, the finance committee._

A memorial was read from the committee of th
pathi

Dispensary, prayi

)111CCO-

(=lvied for many years, mig
posed sales of property
Mr. Holine thong}

sat the house which they had
at not be included in the pro-

that looked like asking the counci
1i they woulC

to make
have,no r

them a pr
ialt to do

sent of the house, wh.

Mr. Jeffery. move(

d that the question be re

recommendation .that the com-
angement could not be made, by

see whett

la the Dispensa

Le Town-,
tx to take

Jerk said -the dispensary committee were

ie house at

of the question