Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-11-30 00:00:00

MANCHESTER SHARE MARKET.—Nov.

Midlands, 1078; Dovers, 24 3.15-16 4 ; London,
96a; Counties, 111 5-16 ; Trattlis, 9l; Sheffields, 36g.

HULL CORN MARBET.,Nov. 29. ,
A fine supply of English Wheat ; sales proceed sloWly
at Is. per quarter under the rates of last Tuesday.
Foreign also lower on the busineS.s done. Beans worse
to sell ; other articles unaltered.

NEWCASTLE CORN MARKET,—Nov. 29.
Farmers' Wheat sells slowly at about is. per quarter
decline from Saturday._ Sonth country . and- foreign,
little or nothing doing. FlCiur -sluggish, but not
_quo-
tably lower. Barley firm. Oats dull, although full
rates asked. Beans..4ll4.P.PaA without alteration.

- LEEDS CORN MARKET.---Nov. 29.
Market quiet, and where sales effected Wheat is
decline from Friday. Other articles no change.

• GLASGOW IRON MARKET.—Nov. 29.

No. 1, 525. 9d. to 535.; Warrants, 525. 74d. to 525.9 d.;
Maker's lion, 625. 6d.` to 525. 9d. ; No. 3, 525. qd. to
525. 9d. ;
,market drooping. Shipped this week, 9,828
tons; corresponding week last year, 10,449,

DUBLIN CORN MARKET.—Nov. 29.

Home Whett—A fair supply, in good condition, was
sold, at a decline of fully 6d. per brl. Oats--A large
supply : few buyers, and to effect sales a reduction of 6d.
to 9d. per brl. should be submitted to. Barley—Prime
malting in request, at the full prices of last day.
Grinding neglected. • Forqgn Wheat not much in-
quired for, few millers being in attendance. Indian
corn for consumption neglected.—Rin's Report.

CORK CORN MAIIKET.—Noy. 29.
White Wheat, 25s to 278; Red, 23s to 26s 6d ;
Barley, 17s 6d; Oats, 12s 2d to 14s 6d.

WATERFORD BUTTER MARKET.—Noy. 29.
Prices, 115 s. to 117 s. 200 in market,

.THE DAVS.NEWS-
..„

A supplement to laSt night's 'Gazette intinaates,
that Parliament will be further prorogued from
the 15th of December to the 2-Ith of January,
then to meet for the despatch of business. ,
An important meeting of gentlemen connected
With various departments 011ie Shipping Interest
was held. yesterday, at the London Tavern. The
chair was occupied by _Mr. 11..W._ Cray
Several gentle Men from Liverpool, including Mr.
J. Bramley:MOore; MX: ; James Beftzley,
and Mr. James Smith, were present, and- took
part in the proceedings, which were evidently of
a very animated as *well us interesting character.
The meeting was a protracted one, and at its
close a.pgtition to Parliament praying for inquiry
was adopted.
The text of the treaties anfich has at length
been
,published in the' semi-official organ of the -
French Government. But it presents, on the
Whole, nothing that is new. iThe stipulations are
in-accordance with those with which the public
has for some ;time past been familiar. Perhaps
the nature of the pecuniary arrangements was nut
- so- clearly Innientood---beforft —lt- -now-appears
that, whilst payment, is made by France to
Austria, on account of the Lombard. debt, France.
in her turn .becomes the creditor of Sardinia to a
much greater amount,—an amount so large, in-
deed,: as to:put it in her power to depress the
value of, Piedmentese Stocks, whenever she may
have ,a motive for doing so. The tnain pretext
for this heavy payment by Sardinia to' is
in order to diminish ihe'expenses incurred bythe
French Government during the late war. This
may be all proper enough as a matter of businesis,
but it certainly dims the glory in no slight degree. I
It- is, now understood that the letters of con-
vocation for the approaching Congress Were de-
spatched yesterday ; AVe shall know, therefore, in
a few days, in all probability, if England is to ee
represented there. The report that Austria had.
objected to be represented, on account of the
nomination of M. dee Buoncompagni to the
Regency-of-
The fact,may; well be remarked upon, as show-
ing hoW ceinpletelthe Preach Government has
' been the cause of .the hostile feeling towards Eng-
land which has latebryrcvailed in that coatry,
that since the Frenah Minister gave orders,forthe
Press to publish an expression of more amicable
feelings, the popular C3iiiPeration has in a great
measure subsided. Whatever may be the advan-
tage there. of 'keeping the public Press under the
shackles of the Government, here, in England,it
is evident that it may feeirtently have the effect
of. doing no slight- nusehief. We_are not aware
that England had given any ground of offence
whatever, either to the. French. Government or
the French` people ; and' in 5.6 fdr as'Edglish feel-
ing is concerned, we do not_ think, if the_ French
will only
.restrain their anger, and show a less
bellicose disposition, that the peak-Uhl relations 'of
+b I - n connection with the subject of French" hos-
tility, it is important to bear in mind, that when
France calls for disamiament, and engages, .of
etiiii'se; to adopt it--herself -she- proposes to do
what,may,be.carried out with 'perfect impunity
by herself, bat which may place Erigland in a
very false position. As the Time "very forcibly
points out, " were every regiment disbanded and
every ship put out of commission, France could
summon a new 'arinyWitiained soldiers and a navy
of goodsailors in a fortnight, if need be. For her
to disarm is only to give her men a furlough, and
save herself their pay. _Our.sokliem and sailers
would have flown awayto every corner of the land
and every shore in the .world, beyond the reach of
recal. . is
.the ,system France. to. provide
against .the.evils of disarmament, and to reduce it
to a mere name. Sh© has
.a reserve of soldiers
and sailors, good. enough
,at least to make an
army and navy 'for any emergency, and that &e-
-serve she has 'always within call. We have; no
such' system. Disarmament with us is a serious
'l,colity. It is sequivalent'to burning the ship and
casting away the sword altogether;-instead of
merely turninc, it into 'a pruninghook for the--1
time:" Such being the,case, any proposition for
disarmament from a power like France could ohly
be regarded as a joke:
- The south of England has been determiiied
upon, we learn, as a suitable place of abode.for
the King of PriiSSTC,lrailig- the winter-numths. '
Prussian agents, have this ;week been inspecting,
the south coast with that object in view ; and
they are about to visit the Isle of Wight, it is
understood, for the same purpose. There is little
'doubt, We belieVe; that some mild and sheltered
situation in that portion of England will be
-selected .for the :Royal invalid, as a winter
residence.

Our much respected neighbour, Mr. John Laird,
-has addressed a letter to the Times on the subject
.of a naval' arsenal and dockyard in the neighbour-
' hood of Birkenhead. 'Mr. Laird gives seven very
strong reasons.why such a dockyard and-arsenal
should k constructed on the land to the westward
of Wallasey-bridge, at the upper end of the Great
Float ; and he gives it, as his opinion, after hav-
ing, paid considerable attention to the construction'
of works of the kind, and knowing the facilities
that exist in the-locality,- "that-an-arsenal 'and
dockyard of the. rnbst.,perfect character could be
completed at a moderate comparative cost, and in
three. or four years." Mr. Laird, in short,' has
made-out a very strong case in favour of Birken-
head for such a purpose.
Among the shipPirik arriVals of yesterday, it is
gratifying to find an intimation of the arrival of
the Red Jacket, from Melbourne, in seventy-eight
days. This renowned clipper, which is admittedly
one of the crack ships belonging to the Liverpool
and Australian trade, has brought 40,000 ounces
of gold, and' ninety passengers.,, She -brings an
account of the loss of the fine ship Jane and Lucy,
belonging to this
,port. This last-named vessel
was bound to the Cape of Good Hope, from-
Liverpool, with emigrants. The passengers and
crew were saved.
From a report by the surveyors,,, which we
publish in another column, it will be seen that
the Great Eastern was not by any means in so
complete a state, as the Directors of the Company
were given to understand she was in, at the time
she was handed over to them—indeed, at the -
time when she started on her trial trip. That
report, ,it apparent, indicates a great amount
of shortcomings as to equipment and finish of tie
ship compared with what ought to have been the
Case.

ENGLISHMEN, generally, have been accustomed
to give the Times one credit. They have consi-
dered it as a very firm and very adequate repre-:
sentative of the honour of England abroad, and
of the relations which she bears to other govern-
ments. But throughout this French question, its
line of conduct has been so shifting, irresolute,

and occasionally pusillanimous, that the true
feeling of England has been, on the whole, mis-
represented, and •her position almost compro-

mired.
The Times, in the first place, did its best to
root in Louis NAPOLEON'S mind, a very exalted
opinion of himself ; and, that too, founded upon
that piecemeal Italian campaign, which no Ge-
neral would trust to as the charter of his fame.

That campaign began in the loud pro Mises
of the braggart,.and ended in the subtle explana-
tions of .the disappointed. The engagement to
give freedom to Italy, sank into a stunted ar_
rangement with regard to one province, on con-
sideration of rivetting more closely the fetters on
the- rest. It is possible, perhaps probable, that
good results may flow to the, general Italian
cause ; but if so, it is through the bearing of the
Italian people, and not through the skill or the
magnanimity of their professed patron. On the
whole, speaking the language Of plain
,common
sense, 'we. Say that Louis NAPOLEON'S position;
on emerging from his. Italian undertaking, was
not calculated to- impress Europe generally with
a, . very- imposing sense of his • dignity 'or his
strength. lleroes'are not made in.a day or in a
month; mud' leSs 'the reputation for generalship
in the'fielcl. Louis' NAPOLEON'S single campaign
was a mistake; and that is the best, though not
the worst,.that can,be said, of it. It certainly fell
very far short of warranting its critics in lauding
the glory and greatness of its inflated and
thwarted director.

Now, it is dangerous where a man lives on
vanity, and his career is one constant effort to
gain influence by an exaggerated reputation, to
puff up both his own opinion of himself and
others' opinion of him. Surely Englishmen have
no occasion to be anxious, lest this proud boaster
'of France 'should abate a jot of his self-compla-
cency. Most men are too naturally inclined to
credit themselves with that character, -xhich they
have made repeated efforts to invest themselves
with imaginarily in the eyes of others. Louis
-NAPOLEON thinks himself a sufficiently formidable
personage without the assistance of English flat-
terers. The admiration of Louis NAPOLEON, in
many minds, is positively growing into a sort
of worship. It is supeitu ou.s,-if not ignominious,
for any Englishman to cast incense on that
shrine, or bend before the upstart divinity. The
Consequence of all this flattered arrognee Is, that
the French Emperor thinks of himself and his
army through him, as the embodiment of a new
and overbearing military system, which is des-
tined to introduce new conditions into modern
national and international life, and to bend the

whole 'of civilisation to its will. Now, we con-

ceive it the duty of English journalists to laugh
to scorn these pritentious clelusions—sometimes
childish and sometimes impious, but never respec-
tauie or excusable. We must let LOUIS N1P0.,-
LEON know that there is a
_rock against which
he can never in the long run produce any effect,
but which in the long run is sure to break him
and his fancied power into pieces. This rock is
Anglo-SaliOn civilisation, receiving its highest
expression in the power and resolution of the
English people.
We are sorry that such a conviction -as this
seems but seldom present in the lncubrations
of the Tiincs' editors; for we are equally sure
that the aspect of -uncertainty which, it displays

before the Imperial threatener, entirely; misre-
presents the sentiments of Englishinen. The
Times has an alternate sense of the French power
of attack,:_and of English power of resistance, and
seems therefore constantly swaying bet Ween far-
and dignity. One day it says that the warlike
preparations-of England are totally-independent
ofsthe present aspect' of French politics, or of the
accidental professions aid manifestations of the
bur. The next clay it 'aPpediS to Louis NAPO-
LEON, as the provoking cause of thiS activity
amongst us, to, say wol:d-TiOnly one word—to
relieve our apprehensions, and, one woulcsup.-
pose, to stay.,the new movement. It says we
must and ought to have an efficient naval
and military system,- of defence ; and then,
it pathetically asks, Louis., NAPOLEON, " why
his unaccountable conduct should make. this
necessary !" It affects, credit for having extorted
from Louis NAPOLEON note. Suggestioß of a
general disarmament ; and :Yet, no later than
'yesterday,' it treats such a• suggestion as' absurd if
not insulting ; and; asis what satisfaction can
there be in an arrangement which leaves France
with every warlike appliance
,potentially if not
actually the same ; and robs England of every
shred of defence ? In this the Times is right,
as the whole British public was long ago aware.
What we complain of is, that he "does not base
his councils and his interpretations -upon so self-
evident a maxim. PrOviding we are armed,,it is

a matter of small importance what advances to
military efficiency France is making. , Let us
be in a state of adequate defence, and France
,dares not attack us. Or if. she dare, she will, as
:Captain _MENDS remarked in St. George's-hall,
" shiver into fragthents like a glass-bottle against
" the pavement." .
And this is the most satisfactory feature in the
prospects of the ' present vOlUnteer movement.
Let it once reach a point of perfect or tolerably
perfect organisation, and,'coine what may, the
'days -a panic are over. We 'shall henceforth not
perplex ourselves with Louis NAPOLEON'S. pro-
phecies ; with all his rubbish about destiny, and
theß But having
" ideas," and the mission of Napoleonisin to the
world: If -we think of I,OIIIS NAPOLEON as-
fnture invader a these shores; it be as we
think of the burglar or the highWayman. We
Ipvie.eapwaraOidt._
.we
revolter, a re
calmly. It is more than probable, that •' under
such circumstances Louis NAPOLEON • will repeat
fcel'eaarneh
dimoutunoutirl

NOVEMBER 30, 1859

his previous withdrawal from " ideal " warfare'
But this time a little sooner,—while it yet
remains an idea and nothing more.

BY THE Board of Trade returns, issued for the
month of October, it appears that the commerce
of the country is in a most satisfactory condition'
In the absence of any unhealthy speculation'
there has been a steady and considerable anir
mentation of trade, as compared with the
same period of the preceding year. The total
last
declared value of exports for the month
past is £10,717,873 ; whilst, for the corresPendt
ing month of 1858, they were £10,268,797.."
being an increase of nearly half a
But while such a prosperous survey is encourag.;
ing, and a subject for general congratulation,
is painful, still, to reflect that there is no alter
tion in one main branch of commercial entererisel
and to which we have in our columns, from t"no
to
to time, referred, as one essentially momentous
the "good old town" of Liverpool, and sch,,i`e
for local and national importance, cannot Pn'si,",
be'eaggerated. The condition of the SliiPe;
Interest, to which we allude, should be ecen
watched and defended with care and attent'°;
as being a main artery of our national life. 1.4
depressed state of this Interest—a depre'4l,,
arising from the rash and unwise repeal of '7
Navigation Laws—is toe deeply felt to be tils;
puted. • An important meeting, was held le:t
year in London, to which deputations were go
from the various sea-port towns intercstcclel
shipping and shipbuilding. It was acknowledo be
by a public journal, hostile to its objects, t°: 1
"in respectability unimpeachable, in numec
" proportion unquestionable, and in enthOie'eo
"most enthusiastic." Sueh a body of gentle%
representing any Interest certainly deseilo;
at the least, to be spoken of in terrnsar
courtesy and consideration, after such n
claration as this. Yet, the same leigit-i;
journal, could make such admissions a's
to.
above, after having previously spoken of that
de
terest in such unbecoming and frivolous langnecoeir
as that the shipowners -have "to go to sell
l'
" again,"—that they must have this unsound
ot
tion knocked out of their "brains,"—jokinPec
the same time, about the, "moth-eaten banner
"protection to British industry,"—and taxing tall
intelligent body of men with ignorance of. An
of
Smith, declaring that the free-trade roll°.
ItP
England is, " take care of the consumer.'
not surprising, therefore, that the same ''tbe
should now be angrily employed to deal of
meeting -Which the continued:disastrous state
that Interest yesterday called together. 00
meeting was held to take into consideration
.4
" increasing. depressioni, and present r"'
1,0 ta
be
" condition of the Shipping Interest ; an"'
" such measures thereon as may be deemed

" sable." that
While in very insolent and flippant terms .
Journal_ speaks of the 'ignorance of shiP°to "
ate
and their incapacity and want of ability eilit
their own
.case, it undertakes to do so for til
k
t ti
and to point out grievances which, it pre-es,er
affect them most, but which they blindlY
look. This presumption is only equal to the
tile
representation which the Times puts forth as to
aim of the
,British shipowner, namely, a retaillo
protection. Now, we are prepared to 191.°110
it is nothing of the kind that he seeks. ,he
prequirese
s theof
ffuFll;eaen-dt r caodme pal
ne tdc
to
b e.
pldevelopmentplaced
etifioci
nn equal fc;oting with foreign competitors. %di.
a statement, issuing from a journal of
Laill.wmi
ling,
immense e:eat
ne
midnr
distribute
aglraiebt:uao:tneyi -t
aail
nnsodofnw influence, is ic.cioo
misrepresentation the .interests
sgielfeviolaiftryi:orn:bdsictoril
.sfligsran leteei;:
d
some twenty millions, a year. Such
713,
statements are not alone- injurious, but areal
unfairly made ; since that same journal tae,
admit into its columns any counter state
eavil
Its pages are open to any one who will scoter
or attack the interests of that branch of e ,(11/
prise and industry, but closed to anY °of if;
would uphold it, and inform the publicioid`
real condition and its true requirementsr-ff,
are not a return to protection; but a reef/
burdens which it_does not require the co° 001/
tion or condescension of the- Times to poiot,
a journal we think has arrived at that oar
i of absurdity" itself, which it- ascribes te
owners, when it proposes to acquaint the eot°
their real burthens, which are so recoil°o
be only perceptible to its own keen Nisi°. fe
ff(4
The writer of such fallacies as are herte re
fAct'''
to, must either be egregiously ignorau of ;
or else must presume upon the ignora9-o o
readers, when he pretends it is necessary
are D9',l
out: that passing tolls, dues, charitie!;
dens unjustly laid upon the Shipping 111 t ae '°11:0
of which it should seek to be relies' .cots
scarcely any meeting upon the siN o,ll°,
will undertake to say, has ever been he
PPig
clearly specifying those imposts which alto'
heavily upon the shipowner,—and delo,o op
its
totphhfl
eaetyirrr,uetaia•hnel
fmdusoltwavtoeaerlg.
believe A fteirt all,has:
a 8 only
yn
to nb
ellll5 iijkor;
pgthiavaretlnitalintwoesnhlmipi:oywner has it not, to seelicepott
therefore, tfl
01:?fniersttc/huolefang,
,reove:y
ziroloeto
agitate the by every ti`r
ilta
and justifiable,—b3; urgent repro° De jet,
ehauics, artisans, sailotterilase,sefr;ler.s,gsit:°:;ll::Ltoebthetal:el:co'rlea:
Let the employer and the employed the d,
„t
r,
owner, the ship-builder, the sail° ,ote
.m.etlY' pa
body of persons, directly or the 4l,
to te
mind set to workand
dinfluence iin g
good
oepairnnieosilt, too, s
lts s b
iree
o e •r
advantageous position, and its equita

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NOVEMBER 30, 181)9.

d We
•hairb 710 fasts that, either the cynical
and sardonic spleen, or the interested prejudices
°f the Tinze-s, dat thwart that love of justice and
~
play so 'inmate in the English character.
To accomplish this, there should be continued
'4etion,---unanimity of purpose,—association 'of
Interest,,-the sinews of war liberally supplied
and kidiciou sly .applied----counterfoils promulgated
t 0 the false and malignant statements of enemies
114. false friends ; and then we are sure that the
tanly and just remonstrance of the Shipping
Interest, in its entirety, will arouse the public
Vnapathy ; and that Which has been so arrogantly
and insolently termed a " howl," will yet extort
e'ven-handed justice from the British nation.

THE LATEST NEWS.

I.IIY BRITISH AND IRISH MAGNETIC TELEGRAPH.]

FRANCE.

THE FRENCH FUNS.

• PARIS, Nov. 29.
12 pac--Itontes continue to improve, and open
/14 .70f. 30c. -

f. 3 15 P.M.-A further rise has taken place in
:Lutes, *which close at 70f. 50e., a rise 'of per
' t. since:yesterday.

PRUSSIA.

BERLIN, Nov. 29.
It is-stated that the Minister of War,'Goneral
onia, has tendered his resignation, and that, the
same has been accepted. It is also asserted' that
4 is to be replaced by General Hermanni.

‘I3IJ.NDERING OP THE LONDONDERRY
SCREW STEAMER EAGLE.

GLASGOW, Nbv. 29.
(From ihe ..itartit Britisli'..baily lildil.)
Prom what we-have been able to learn:the screw
steamer Eagle, :which left Greenock_%etween
'even and tight •on Monday night, for :tondort-
(lerry, with, between , passengers and crew, about
eighty
_souls on board. The night 17,13,.;', fine at
4st, but afterwards becamosqUally,fraixed with
-611.0wers. When off Holy Island, :and-jnst in thO
Midst of a squall, and a heavy. shOwer of rain,
a sailing vessel, with lights, was -discovered
°II the Eagle's port bow. The vessels came into
collision, carrying away the 'steamer's funnel,
8.114 immediately after' the steamer was found to
vl4)e in a sinking State. The two after &impart-
111ents speedily filled with water, which shortly
after 'found -its way into the compartments eon-
taining the.. boilers and machinery, -and ' ex-
tinguished the furnaces. The sailing vessel, the
barque Cladda, from 'Quebec to Greenock, im-
Ite4tateiy Jowerea. ner coats to retie.. ~,55i.,.....-,
and succeeded in taking on board a number
°1 the passengers and crew of the -Eagle.
There
. was not time to get 'the' steamer's
life-beat launched before the vessel begun to
Bettle down,: which she did in about ten minutes
from the time of collision. At the time of will-
%ioll, a tug steamer was observed a.short distance
off, but misunderstood. the signals, and stood
"Ay. It is possible that, had the. tug come up
to their assistance, a larger number would have
been saved. - The barque'S boats were efficacious
111 saving alarge number. As it was, out of about
eighty passengers and crew who are computed to
have been•on board, about half of .that number
114 believed-to have perished chiefly deck and
.Btoerago passengers. One or two cabin passen-
gers are among the missing, but •we have not
-.,- been able as. yet to ascertain the names of those
12
.-,110 are lost; this will be difficult, as. no full list
Fl-6 taken of the passengers on so short a voyage.
711 e steamer belonged to Messrs. AP:Connell and
' 'Laird of this cites.:cites.:.., . '
.The following is a list of the passengers who
'ilk saved as far.,as can be ascertained:—Terence
. I(avany, John :Sheridan, John Mitchell, Thomas
Ilryson, James Wynn, William Brown, Robert
..
4°ll.nson, John Granny, Denis WGinley, Peter
Illerney, Thomas McMurray, William Gillon,
''.
ilaoma s Conally, Francis M‘Laren, john'Dougan,

t'r'ick ,Boyle, John Bishop, James 31,Ca,nn, W.
1,
WlCenny, and John Wilson.
Only one of the crew is missing—the-second
kate.

WATERFORD AND KILKENNY.
RAILWAY.

At a meeting of shareholders to-day (Tuesday),
dividend was declared at: the rate of three per
(11t• per annum on the Preference Stock.
I'ROROGATION OF PARLIAMENT.
Supplement to this evening's Gazette contains
:11,4 proclamation, stating that at the Court held at
indsor to-day, Parliament was further pr0;1344
;1344 I:led 'from December, 15, to Tuesday, January
°TI Which day the said Parliament will assemble
b°l. the despatch of divers urgent and important
u.sinem •
. , MANNING THE. NAVY.
suPPlenient to the Gazette states that at the
lilt held at Windsor to-day, the period for
Pir 'ag bounties to seamen. which would have ex-
ed
Dec-,ovember 30, has been further extended to
I,iel:ober -31. The bounties remain the same,
'; £6 to able seamen, and £3 to ordinary.
Th., A
ArZ following appeared in a portion of our im-
°la, of yesterday :
THE CONGRESS.
lob Prince 'Metternich, the Austrian
ValeA,"Lor, had an interview with Count
qft'air:sli, the French Minister for Foreign
pithto order to settle the last points at issue
4/1d p.lalleesPeet to the Congress beteen Austria
e. These points appear to be now

i~. i., . ~
-.~....

settka, and the:Ttmaining obstacles removed as
far as they .affect these two powers.
The correspondent of the Times says the letters
of convocation will no doubt be issued on
TnesdaY'(o.is day.)
• [REUTER'S TELEGRAM.]
P:Ants, ituesday.—The letter's of invitation to
the Congress Were despatched to-day. to the dif-
ferent Powers. The Congress will assemble in
the early part of January next.
•