The Northern Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-03-25 00:00:00

LICENSED VICIUALLER'S MEETING.

A meeting of the Licensed Victuallers of Liverpool was
held at three o'clock yesterday, in the Philadelphia Hall,
Hackies Hey, to consider which two of the three candi-
dates now before the public for the representation of the
borough, would be the bast representatives s 9 far as the
interests of the trade are concerned. The attendance was
most numeious, but there were several persons not con-
nected with the trade present. The chair was taken by
Mr. Richard Lumb.
The Chairman having read the resolution convening the
meeting. .

Mr;Williamson asked how the mee,4.irg was called at
Morgans on Tuesday last ? (Hear, hear.)
The Chairman : Some of the gentlemen con:lected with
the meeting will perhaps answer the question.
Mr. Williamson : Was it called by a circular, or a
" hole and corner" meeting called by some means ar
other ? (Cheers:)
A Voice : " It was called by circular."

Mr. Jones : No, not by circular. (Cheers.)
Mr. Wilson Bell : There were no circulars issued, but it
was called by a few friends who took the trouble to go
from one tradesman to another, to tell thaa that such a
meeting would take place.
_There was a circular for the
meeting on Sature ay.___

Mr. Williamson : Was it generally understood by the
trade that there would be a meeting at Mr. James Mor-
gans ? (Haar, hear.)
Mr. Bell : I distinctly understood that it was. (Vehement
cries of " No, no".) You say " No" but I say " Yes."
(feaeghtee.) I tell you distinctly that I was given to
understand that it was so. It was a very numerous
meeting, and if it had not been known, there would not
have been 30 many there.
Mr. Williamson : hcw many were there ?
The Chairman : At one tiele upwards of sixty.
Mr. R. -N weal' : It was a preliminary meeting to convene
this. (Hear, hear.)
the conversation was with Mr. J. H. Denson, who eaid,
" I hope there is no snake in the grass here to take in-
formation to the enemy's camp." (Hear the uproar became
so great that the speaker was compelled to resume his
seat.)
Inc Chairman then proceeded to open the business of
the meeting. He said it would be no part of his duty to
enter into a discussion of the subject that would be
brought before them. He would endeavour to explain
she reason why they had been called together, and then
leave it to the meeting to decide how they would act.
They were aware that in 1853 a select committee of the
House of Commons sat to enquire into the present system
of licensing. The result of that inquiry was a recommen-
dation to throw open the trade under certain regulations,
and his opinion was that the reason why a bill founded
on that resolution was not brought before the late House
of Commons, was that it had no chance. If, however, on
the re-assembling of Parliament, the parties who promoted.
that resolution found that they had any chance of carrying
such a measure, they would renew their efforts to that
end, and if successful in those efforts, would carry
devastation and ruin into thousands of their fellow
tradesmen's homes, and inflict serious injury on society in
general. (Hear, hear.) That being the case, he thought
it was imperative on them carefully to examine the opinions
of the candidates who aspired to the honour of representing
the town in parliament, and he hoped that in the discussion
of that important question they would show that kindly
feeling that ought always to exist among men whose
interests are identical, and that they would rather strive to
arrive at a right conclusion than the mere gratification of
party triumph. (Hear, hear, and cheers.)
Mr. John Atkinson proposed the first resolution. He
observed that the chairman had explained to them the
reasons why they had been called together. For his part,
he felt for some time past that, when an opportunity like
the present arrived, it would be one of the most important
that cnild occur, not only to the licensed victuallers of
Liverpool but to all England. The chairman had stated to
them the reasons why the trade had been so frequently,
agitated on this question, which was of considerable im-
portance to them, and it was therefore unnecessary for him
to enter into that subject now. He would therefore proceed
to read the resolution which he was about to propose, and
it was one which he felt assured would meet with the
concurrence of the meeting. It was—" That it is the
opini rn of this meeting that any attempt to disturb the
present licensing system, with a view to throwing open the
trade by granting licenses to every applicant, irrespective
of the wants of the public, would be ruinous to
the property embarked in the trade, and destructive to
public morals." (Cheers.) Was there any requirement, he
would ask, for the proposed change ? Had there been
any great public demonstration in favour of it ? Had
there been any complaint against the present system ?
(" No, no.") There had not ; and why then should this
proposed change have emanated from Liverpool, where
there were more public houses than in any town of Eng-
rind compared with the number of its inhe.bitants. (Hear,
hear.) Mr. Atkinson proceeded to argue the impolicy and
danger of throwing open the trade amid the general impa-
tience of the audience, who repeatedly told him that they
thoroughly understood the subject.
Mr. T. -Nuttal seconded the resolution, and called on the
meeting to give it their hearty concurrence.
Mr. Williamson : Well, you have been speaking half an
hour about nothing. (Cheers and laughter.)
The resolution was then put and carried unanimously.
Mr. Denson : I take the liberty of rising to propose a
resolution.

A Voice :
Danson ?"

" Are you a licensed victualler, Mr.

Mr. Danson : If you will go to No. 4, Williamson
street, you will see my name very conspicuouly displayed
over a door—perhaps that, will satisfy you. (sear, hear.)
Another Voice: •‘ Toe teapenuy ale shop." (Laughter
and cries of '• order ")

Mr. Danson : Understand, gentlemen, that I never
was ashamed of the calling, and that I do not intend to
be. (Cheers.) Directly lam ashamed of my connexion
with the trade I shall cut it. (Hear, hear.) Mr.
Chairman, I am about to propose a resolution which will
really open up the question as to who are the best candi-
dates to represent us in parliament. Although I shall
have, in doing so, to express an opinion diametrically
opposed to the opinions of many gentlemen here, I trust
I shall have, notwithstanding that, a calm and quiet
hearing and attention ; and I shall be very happy, and
so I trust will be all those who are of the
same opinion with me, to give to those gentle-
men who oppose us in opinion an equally fair and
patient hearing. (Hear, hear.) I shall read the resolu-
tion, in order that you may see I come straight up to the
point at once. " Resolved—That this meeting is of opinion
that it is the interest of the licensed victuallers to support
Messrs. Horsfall and Turner."

A perfect storm of groans, hisses, cries of " no no, never,
never," mingled with counter cheers, and cries of " yes,
yes," followed the mention of these names, and was

sustained for several moments, rendering it utterly im-
possible for the speaker to proceed.
Mr. Williamson : Three cheers for Mr. Ewart. (Vehe-
ment and enthusiastic chealing.)
A Voice : " Three cheers for Herefall and Turner."
(Loud cheers )
Another Voice : " Danson yen are done. Your no-
patriotic prirciples are done." (Cheers )
Another Voice : " Danson, if you will crumple up that
piece of paper as Cobden did Russia you will do." (Cheers
and laughter.)
Mr. Bell (as we understood) : It is wrong to make this
trade association into a political body. (Hear, bear.)
Mr. Danson : Chairman, this is very (abiltrating.
If you will hear me out patiently I will detain you as sh,,rt
a time as possiblo, the circumstances of the case being
c msidered. Mr. Chairman, I can bear kicking reunarkArly
well. lam quite used to it. (Clamour and interruption.)
I have not yet finished the resolution. I had only got as
fa. as the names of Messrs. Honfall and Turner. (Hear,
hear, cheers, and groans ) Mr. Danson then read the
resolution as follows :—" That this meeting is of opinion
that it is the interest of the Licensed Victuallers to support
Messrs. Horsfall and Turner at the forthcoming election,
es those gentlemen have, in the most plain and candid
manner, at all ti :acs advocated the interests of the trade,
not as a publicans question, but as one deeply affecting
public morals ; and that those gentlemen are the most
suitable representatives of the various interests of Liver-
pool." _ _

A Voice : " Ewart for ever." (Loud cheers.)
Another Voice : " Mr. Dansoa is a missionary of the
Tories: Ho wants to make proselytes of us." (Cheers
and groans.)
Another Voice : " He caun it do it, even with Atkinson
to back him up. (Cheers and laughter.)
Mr. Danson : Allow me, gentlemen, to appeal to your
candour and consideration, upon groends wiliele I think
entitle me to them. I have worked hard for the interess
of the licensed victuallers for ei:ineralely above twenty
years; and I believe I man declare that I have worked
disinterestedly. (Hear., 'hear, and loud c;aeers.) I be-
lieve I have dews my best to serve the trade in
general—(cheens)—and although many of you, gentle•
men, may differ with me io ine step I am now taking,
yet I no contend Oren the time and money I have spent
10 your ennA entitle me at all events to your candid
c7...erderation. (Hear, hear, and cheers.) I do not want
to Make any unnecessary boast of my services, but I feel
myself bound to appeal to your excellent feelings upon
an occasion like this. (Hear.) Gentlemen, before I
Make any remarks upon the resolution, I shall take the
liberty of expressing most emphatically that the Licensed
ictuallers' Association has not one jot to do with this
political movement. The chairman, when applied to,
declined to have anything to do with it, he refused us
the use of the onnees or the secretary, and declined acting
on the committee because he believed that he should do
_ • nothing which might hazard or jeopardize the excellent
charitable institution connected with the association, er
put in peril the support of the poor creatures now living
'aspen the bounty of the institution. (Cheers.)
A Voice : "You are going just the right way to do so."
(Hear, hear, and No, no.)
Mr. Danson : Gentlemen, I shall make this other
declaratian, that although I am about to vote for two
Conservatives, it I am alive and well, I do not come here
to eepodiate my political principles and feelings (Cries
of " Oh, oh," " Hear, hear," hisses, groans, and ch. ers.)
My name has been called into question. A gentleman
here, Mr. Bairstow, under very mistaken informatisn,
made a certain charge against me, to the effect that I
bad made a statement inconsistent with the facts as they
are. now Mr. Bairstow is a very respectable man; I
have inn/ great pleasure in having his acquaintance, and
I am very happy that he has had the manliness and the
courage to speak boldly and openly his opinion upon any
man or princi, le whatever. (Hear, hear-) So long as
in this country, !men ;follow that ohn Bull course of
speaking openly, yet respectfully, their mind upon all
quesions, the institutions of our country are at all
times safe. (Hear, hear, and cheers.) The whole
of this movement rests upon the free licensing
system, and I tell you distine- ly that you would never
have seen me here today, it I believed that I was support •
ing the interest of one particular class of tradesmen to the
prejudice or injury of public morals or public good.
(Hear, Lear, and cheers.) I eoutend that our interests are
ideatical, and uniform with the . interests and the
tnorils of the country. (Hear, hear.) Why do I support
Messrs. Hcrsfail and Turner
A Voice : Benet:lse yeti are an agent of J -hn Shaw
Leigth," (Cheers, arts'a groans.)
Diesan : I shall now proceed to explain my reasons
lag the ether night which I am quite cer-aio he made in
error, He stated that I was endeavouring to hoodwink
the licensed victuallers in regard to the opinion of Mr.
Ewart upon the free licensing system. Mr. Danson then
referred to a question put to Mr. Ewart at a ward meeting,
in regard to his opinion of the propriety of a change
in the present licensing law, when he distinctly
: d clared that he was opposed to such a change ;
and being further asked if • he had inure he
went into parliament refused to receive a
deputation of licensed victuallers upon the subject, he
distinctly replied in the negative, and deciared that that
was the first he had had ever heard of it. In reference to
this reply, it was, that Mr. Bairstow said Mr. Danson
was going about with Mr. Charles Turner, endeavouring
to hoodwink the licensed victuallers. Mr. Denson called
upon the licensed victuallers, to be humbugged by no
one. (Cries of " Oh, oh," groans, and cheers.) He then
went on to say : At the time, Mr. Ewart appeared as a
candidate against that incapable old gentleman, Sir Geo.
Bonham—(loud laughter)—the Licensed Victuallers'
League, a body formed for trade purposes, sent a note to
Mr. Ewart for the purpose of obtaining his consent to
receive a deputati n from that body to hear his views
upon the proposed change in the licensing system. [Hr.
Denson read the letter.] No letter was sent to Sir George
Bonham, because Mr. Bremner, the law adviser to the league,
undertook to have a verbal answer from him. We received
from Mr. Ewart the following reply, dated " New Brighton
17th March, 1855." Tee letter was as foil ova :—" Dear
Sir,—l have received your note of yesterday, relative to
throwing open the licensing system, and expressing a wish
that a deputation from the Licensed Victuallers' League
should wait upon me on the subj ct. To save them the
• trouble of doing so"—Of course, gentlenien, declining.
(Cries of " No, no.")
Several Voices : "Not fair, not fair." (Hear, hear.)
A Voice : " Read the letter and leave out your com-
ments." (Hear, hear, cheers, and laughter.)
Mr. Danson (reading) : " I beg to state that without
giving a pledge on that or any other subject, my present
feeling is in favour of the existing state of the law."
(Hear, hear, and cheers.) Now, gentlemen, I shall give
you my version of that note. (Cries of " No, no," and
4. Oh, oh.")
A Voice : " We don't want your version." (Cheer=.)
Another Voice : " We can judge fonnurselves." (Hear.)
Mr. Danson: Mr. Ewart declined to receive the
deputation. (" No, no," " Yes, yes, " cheers, and
groans.) Mr. Ewart declined to pledge himself upon
that or any other subject. (Hear, hear, and cheers.) I
tell you, gentlemen, ne all took that for declining the
deputation. (No, no.) I saw after that, several gentlemen
who were Mr, Ewart's firm friends and supporters, and I
regretted to them that Mr. Ewart had been advised to take
so absurd a step as that, because if ho had received the
deputation he would have bad the very earliest opportunity
of expressing his opinions in as candid a manner as he has
come forward to do now. Now, gentlemen, I shall go one
step further. I shall go to the deputation which recently
waited on Mr. Ewart, before they went to London. The
deputation never sought Mr. Ewart in London, hesause
they conceived, from the evasive manner in which he
an; serrd.—(e Oh, oh," hisses, and groans.) Before the
deputation went to London, they sought en interview
with Mr. Ewart, in common with other members
of Parliament in and about Liverpool. They waited
upon Mr. Ewart, and I will read from a paper a
statement of the substance of Mr. Ewart's converse.
tion and his promises then to the deputation. That
statement is verified by the five gentlemen who
composed the deputation, and I believe these live gentle-
mot are all here. The question having been put to nlr.
Ewart as to his opinion upon the proposed granting of
licenses, in accordance with the select committee of the
House of Commons, Mr. Ewart said, "at present I am
not prepared to adiocate such a change," but on being
asked if be would vote against any bill which might be
introduced, having for its cbjeot the carrying out of the
resolution of the Select Committee; then Mr. Ewart asked
if any bill was likely to be brought in during the ensuing
sessiot.? The deputation stated that it might be made
part of the financial statement of the Chancellor of the
Exchequer. Mr. e:wart then stated, that e.ntil the bill
was before the House of Commons, he had as objection to
pledge himself to anything. (Cheers.)
A voice : " Bravo Ewart." (Loud cheers.)
Mr. Damon : Addine that at present he was in favour of
the existing system. (Lone Cheers.) I contend that there
was a want of candour on Mr. Ewart's part. (Cries of
" No no.") How any gentleman after hearing the letters can
avoid accusing him of want of candour, I cannot under-
stand. (Cheers and cries of oh ! oh ! )
A Voice : "You are a representative of a Tory house."
Mr. Denson emphatically denied that the house which
he had the honour to represent had in any way sought to
influence his political actions. (Hear, hear, and cheers.)
The principal of that house was in Liverpool only last
week, and, as a matter of couversation, he (Mr. Denson)
told him the decision he had come to. The gentleman said
ho was quite at liberty to please himself in the course he
took, and never attempted to interfere with him in any
gbaPe or way, (Hear, hear,) He declared most empha.

tically that he considered Mr. Ewart's present elect tretion
a deathbed repentance upon the eve of his political dissolo.
:ion. (Oh, oh, cheers, hisses, and clamour) Mr. Ewart
now threw overboard the magistrates who had been the
very means of instituting the committee. Ile was compelled
to throw them overboard, or his election would have been
lost. (Groans and hisses.) He (Mr. Danson) was no slave
to either Tories or Radicals, and would not be dragged
through the mud by either. Mr. Dawson then continued :
shall leave it for Mr. Ewart's friends to say how they
can reconcile those opinions. We all know that the
committee who conducted the election of Mr. Evart on the
former occasion conducts his election now. A gre-A number
of the members of that committee were megistrates,- and
held certain opinions with regard to the licensing system.
and it was easy for them to underst ind what•influence the
opinion of such men would have on the oeinion of Mr.
Ewart ; therefore, considering that Mr. Ewart had not
come forward, and given an answer to the questions put to
him in the first instance, I do say that the last declaration
of his opinions was a sort of death bed repentance. (Cheers
and interruption.)
A Voice : " He entertains the same opinions that he did
two years ago." (Cheers.)
Mr. Danson : Now, I tell you that Mr. Ewart is not a
fit man to represent us, and I do not believe that there is a
man in Liverpool who, h tying, as I have, the interest
of the trade at heart, can support that gentleman.
(gear, hear, cheers, hisses, and laughter.) Now, I most
say that, after looking at all the votes give'n by Mr.
Flors7all—(great cheering)—l do not believe that they
would ever find a better man. (Cheers.)
A Moice "We are all agreed upon that subject. He is
a man whose ability is known to all" (Cheers.)
A Voice : " Three cheers for Horsfall and Ewart." (This
was immediately responded to with three hearty cheers,
intermingled with three groans for Turner, aed cries of
gi Dawn with Turner.")
Mr, Denson : I believe he every position of life that he
is eminently qaalified to represent this town in Parlia-
ment. (Cheers, hisses, and groans ) As far as Mr.
Turner is concerned, I consider that he is eminently quali-
fi:d to sA with him (cheers and hisses) ; and I think
that 1 shall be able to prove it to you from his own words.
(Cheers.) I will take this blue book, which contaius
10,000 questions, and upwards of 1,000 pages. When
that enquiry was instituted. Mr. Chart=s Turner was in
Parliament, and 1 will read to you his answers to the
erestions put to him. But I would have you recollect
that he volunteered his evidence, and he then stated—

" You have stated you have heard complaints of the
linensiog system in the borough of Liverpool? I have
heard complaints from parties who have asked for licenses
and been refused them, but those complaints I consider to
be only in the natural course of things. Whenever you
have any limitation upon the granting of anything from
which a party can derive a profit, there will be a great
many people anxioui to get into that limited body, and of
course those parties disappointed will complain of this ;
bat I know that the late Mr. Rushton was of opinion that
the magistrates of Liverpool granted far too many licenses;
and I quite concur in that opinion, that they allow their
feelings to be worked upon, and that licenses are granted
in many cases where it is very undesirable.
Can you tell us what station of life the persons are
generally in who hold the licenses ? They vary from such
a house as the Adelphi (which is probably known to
members of the committee), to houses of £3O or £4O per
annum. They are of all classes ; but generally speaking
the publicans of Liverpool are a respectable body.
Have you any other objection to state to the proposed
free competition among these houses besides the one you
have stated ? Yes. There is another very serious objection
in my mind. I think that all these houses ought to be, in
a certain measure, under the supervision of the police.
There is, I consider, no greater evil than, in a large place
like Liverpool, any man who can get a dozen to sign in his
favour, shall be allowed to set up a public house in the
midst of brothels and thieves, without the police having
some supervision over it. I think that if it were thrown
open in the way suggested it would be impossible, without
multiplying the police to an extent that the borough would
Hot submit to, to have the necessary supervi2ion.
You were understood to say that your chief objection to
throwing open the trade is, that it would require a much
more extensive supervision c.f the police if the trade were
thrown open, because you think that the her houses would
all sell spirit, and they would be less well conducted, and
that you would have to increase the police ? Yes.
What would be the effect of allowing people to sell spirits
as they sell groceries ? My opinion is that it would lead to
a great deal of increased drunkenness. _

The landlords' property is only the value of the monopoly?
I do not know what you call the monopoly : it is the value
LCJLILGL.oi pub Upon a ueriaAn trace, W1...1011 only a
certain number are allowed to enter into. That is hardly
a monopoly which anybody is &lowed to enter into, if the
warts of the town make it desirable. It is rot a monopoly
to any one class of individuals : it is a restricqon which
is put upon a certain trade fur the good of the com-
munity.

Now, he did consider that from those answers Mr.
Turner was entitled to the support of the trade, because
he was well psted up in all commercial affairs.
A Voice : " When he did not know bales from
trusses " (Laughter.)
Mr. Danson then concluded by saying, that it was his
intention en the day of the election, with God's help, to
support Mr. llorsfall and Mr. Turner—(cheers and
hisses)—and in doing so he conceived he was promoting
the best interests of the trade, to which he had devoted
himself for the last twenty years. (Cheers.)
Mr. llarshall, of Edge hill, said, he had great pleasure
in seconding the adoption of the motion which had been
so ably proposed by Mr. Dimon. He then went on to
say that he had, at the late election, voted for Sir Geo.
Bonham, and he done so because he thou;lit he was
supporting the trade.

Mr. Bairstow came forward to move an amendment to
the resolution, and was received with cheers and uproar.
He said it was the first time he had had an opportunity
of meeting his fellow traders on an occasion so very
important as the present.
A Voice : " More shame for you." (Confusion and
cheers.)
Mr. Bairstow said they were called on to select two
persons to represent them in Parliament. He thought it
had been fully explained to the meeting, by the letters
and documents read, that Mr. Ewart was not so crookal
an individual as he was represented to be, but he thought
it was fully proved that he was as manly, as straightfor-
ward, and as upright as the other two gentlemen, who
were attempted to be lauded so much. (Great confusion,
cheering, hissing, and uproar) A great deal had been said
about Mr. Ewart having refused to meet a deputation
of licensed victuallers, and the reason why he asked the
q testion of Mr. Ewart the other evening was in cense-
qeenee of a note which he received. (Hear, hear.) Mr.
Danson had told them that he was about to make a
tremendous sacrfice in the cause of the trade (uproar),
in fact, to sacrifice political friendship for life, in order to
vote for a man that was totally opposed to him, in order to
serve the interests of the licensed victuallers. (Confusion
and cheers, and cries of " Sit down.")
A Voice : " Give hime rope enough and he'll hang
himself." (Great confusion.)
Mr, Ildretow : If he did not say so I hove mistaken his
words. (Cries of " No," " Yes," and much disorder.) if
that was not the tener of his speech, I am very much nit's-
. t,ken. (Renewed confusion.) He told us—(here the
uproar became se great that the speaker was not capable
of being heard )
The Chairman called on the meeting to hear the
speaker cut, as well as Mr. Danson was heard, After
some time, comparative order was restored, when Mr.
BairstoW went on to say, if he understood the speech
of Mr. Danson, that gentleman, up to the present, was
,always on the other side of the question ; but now,
because Messrs. Horsfall and Turner were better men
for the trade, and better atTecLed towards the licensed
victuallers and the interest of that trade. (A storm of
confusion followed, and lasted. same time.) lie said he
he did not care particularly how long he stood there, as
he waS resolved to get a hearing. (Great cheering, and
uproar) Danson was allowed to h:ve his say, and he
was determined to have his. (Renewed cheering and
uproar.) There had been a great handle made of a
point, that Mr. Ewart had refused to receive a deputation
from the trade ; but be thought the ro e that Mr. Danson
had read, a full reply to that calumny. (Cheers, and
awful uproar) fie did not think he would be so patient
as to hear that note read, -and therefore he had gone to the
Mercury office and made some extracts from that paper.
The letter was read on the t2sth March, 1855, to a meeting
of the trade, held at the. York hotel, and he was sure
neither Mr. Danson nor his friends could find fault with it
at the time, but now, because they have taken up Mr.
Turner and Mr. Ilorsfal, they construe that letter into a
refusl, at the end of two years. (Much confusion; cries
of " No," '`Yes," and continued uproar. )
A Voice : " Why didn't he meet them ?" (Renewed
confusion )
Mr: Allison appealed to the meeting for a fair hearing for
the speaker, and said such interruptions were not given to
Mr. Danson when he was speaking. (Cheers and con-
fusion.)
Mr. Bairstow : If I am not heard by the meeting, I
will speak to the reporters, and it will go on the wings of
the press to morrow morning over the country. (Cheers
and confusion.) If you refuse to hear me it will prove
that you are afraid to hear what I have to say. (Hoar,
hear.) Now, Mr. Dansoe tells you that you must judge
of the man by the company he keeps. (.‘ No, no," and
" Yes, yes,' ) Was it because Mr. Robertson Gladstone—
(disorder)—and some other gentlemen who suPeorted—
Ltlere the interruption was so great, and continued so long,
that it was utterly impossible to catch what the speaker
said, When nee was restored, he went on to ,

say]---That some friend of the trade had circulated
a paper eologi6ing Mr. Turner's evidence, but now he
(the speaker) would read a paper also in reference to Mr
tiorsfall. In May, 1846, Mr. Horsfall was an alderman
of the borough, and on the 6th May in that year, at a
meeting. of the cluncil, it was moved by Mr. Alderman
Hersfall, seconded by Mr. Councillor Higgins, that a
clause be inserted in the Sanitary Bill now before Pat lia-
ment, enacting that no licensed victualler or other person
shall open his house within the borough for the sale of
wins, sirits, beer, or other fermented or distilled
or permit the same to he sold on any Sunday, Christmas
day, or Good Friday, before the hoer of one o'clock in
the afternoon, or Letween the hours of three in the
of ernoon, and five o'clock in the roorniag of the next
succeeding day, with a proviso that these provisions shall
not extend to prevent refreshments to travellers, For
the motion, 16 ; against it, 26 ; and so it passed itt the
negative. . _ _

PlAintitri' Attorney 8.
1 Ex...Sucornerseales Sc:T
3 CP...Same
4 Ex ..Stead
6 QB...A.tkinson and Co
9 Q8...F Andrew
10 Ex ...Sale and Co
11 Ex ...Same
12 QB-114.,,50n and R
13 Q 8... J I 1 Dearden
14 QB...Worthington & E
16 K Taylor
17 Ex ...Sale and Ca
18 Ex ...J
19 Ex ...Dickenson
21 QB...W4ster
22 CP...111 Potter
23 Ex ...Brooks and 1%1

A Voice : " And that is very proper."
Mr. Bairstow : If it be the opinion of the licensed
victaallers of Liverpool that they should keep shut from
three (i,n .anday to five on Monday morning, why you may
vote for Mr. Horgan.

A Voice "So we will." (Confusion )
Mr. Bairstow : The colleague of Mr. Turner in the
representation of the borough. tor a short time only, was
one Mr. M`Kera.e, and he brotight forward a Sunday
trading bill torn Scotland. (" Q :estior, question.") Yes,
but you must judge of a mon by the company he keeps,
and if 3.en want to step Sunday trading altogether, vote for
Mr. Turner. (Great confusion ) So far as lam concerned
I do not care about opening on Sunday—(hear, hear)
—hut when, two or three years cgs, the S'inday
bill Was intorduced hero, there was a clause inserted
whereby I was allowed to supply refreshment to
travellers. I shall now read the reaalution for you i
" That it is inexpedient and undesirable for this meeting
to express any opini yn as to the merits of the three candi-
dates, and that the Licensed Victuallers be left to their
own discretion in the exerciseof their political franchise."
(Loud cheers and confusion.) Some. years ago the
Licensed Victuallers—(confusion and cries of " Question,
met the question fairly and openly, and to the
satisfaction of the trade. (Cries of " No, no,"
and prolonged cur fusion ) I say he did, and
qneseion.") I was going to show that Mr. Evart has
what was more, and I think much more, honest and
manly, he refused to go into parliament, giving any
pledge on that or any other subject, until he could pro-
perly Undera-and the question. (Fleas', hear, and
6 rs.) Now, if we send men to represent us in the
House of Commons pledged to this point and fettered
to that, such men w.ll not be fit to represent
us at all. (Hear.) We should not bind inea in fetters and
with pledges, for if Mr Ewart hail gone into parliament
Under such circeire'ancea, h )%v could he have voted for Mr.
Hardy's bill ? (Rear, hear ) As to Mr. Ewart's attention
to the wants of the trade and people of Liverpool, any one
who had occasion to go to London and to consult him on
any point, found him one of the kindeA and most courteous
of gentlemen. (Hear, hear.) That was well known, for I
had something to. do with him there in reference to a bill
brought in by the parish board. Mr Dansen sneaks to the
merits of Messrs. Horsfall and Turret, and I think I am
equally entitled to speak of the merits of Mr. Etvart.
(Cheers and confusion.) If the bill, to which I allude,
had passed, it would be at least two or three pence in the
pound out of all your pockets—(mar, hear)—and it was
mainly owing to his exertions that it was not carried.
By the great practicsl knowledge shown by Mr. Ewart,
he had done a vast deal of service to the shipping of this
mighty port, and thereby to the town at large, and you
cannot do better than elect him to serve y•,tl. again. and
place him at the head of the poll. (Confusion.) He
will receive you wi h kindness—he wit! tell you openly
and manfully what his opinions are— (.'No," "yes," and
confusion) —and had his opinions been on the opposite
side to your interrsts, he would have told you so in the
same open manner that he has already expressed to you.
(Rear, hear.) The stye-deer instanced a case wherein
he had a communication with government, hut
could get no redress, and he then wrote
to Mr. Ewart, and in seven days he had obtained what
he required. (Cheers.) If they wonted a man of
straightforwardness, end who would rot shrink from any
question, who would not go back to old rotioes, but one
who was the steady advocate of progress (hear), then they
ought to select him. They ought to follow the example,
set them be Leeds, Sheffield, -Manchester, Edinburgh, and
Glasgo v, by rejecting Tories and selection. the friends of
progress and reform. (Loud cheers.) Was this large
Constituency to reject progressive reformers, and are the
licensed victuallers of Liverpool to keep a drag, on the
e.s. or knee.eee. (Clear, near, and cheers, cries of " No"
and confusion.) la the mind of Mr. Danson, your interests
will he increased and secured.

A Voice : " Don't mind Danson, the only interest he has
is biiter ale." (Cheers and confusion )
Mr. Bairstow : I cad on you, if you be men of prog,ress,
and that you wish ti possess the privi'eges of Englishinen,
to vote for Mr. Ewart, and I now again tell you not to be
hood winked in any way, by either Mr. Danson or Mr.
Charles Turner. (L,-..ud cheers hisses, and confusion.)
Mr. Livesey seconded the atnendment, and said they had
every confidence in Mr. Ew re. A few diva -.go he found
the ganilernan who was now eulogising Hotelll and Turner
to the skies, utterly opposed to tl7cm. (Loud cries of hear.)
Some }wars ago it was thought proper that the licensed
victuallers should have a representative in the Town
Council, and it was resolved to send Mr. Danson into the
council, and at that time Mr. Danson and Mr. Atkinson
were opposed to Mr. Horscall. (Cheers and confusion.)
After 801129 further observations and great confusion the
spaker seconded the amendment.
Mr. James Parker put a question to Mr. Danson, to the
effect that whilst Mr. Turner was advocating the present
liecnsin;T system, he had opened the trade in the docks by
allowing beerhouses inside the warehouses for the supply of
the workmen at a halfpenny a pint dearer than it could be
hid outside. He wanted to know how all this was?
(Hear, hear )

Mr. Darson admittFd that there were some gross irrecru-
laritics in the respect referred to, but denied that Mr.
Turner was aware of them ; but when he was informed of
the matter, steps were at once taken to put a stop to such
provedings, and the evil w,s now, or at least was about to
be, remedied.

Mr. Carter denied that the Lic,,n-scl Victuallers'
Association had anything to do with the objet
of the present meeting as a body, and he re-
fused to permit the name of the Association,
as a body, be connected with the proceedings. He was glad
the question pu, by Mr. Parker had been fairly answered, but
he accused Mr. Parker of having made six ap;,lica,ioris to get
the superintendent of the works to let tho men patronise him,
but it was not until of he was refused that he made this
charge. Ho wished to impress very strongly on the public,
that the society as a body had nothing whatever to do with the
objects of the meeting. (Contusion.)
Mr. Parker said every word uttered by the last speaker was
untrue. (Confusion.)
After some further disorder, a poll was taken on the
amendment, when there appeared about 76 persons for it, and
about 112 against it, so the original motion was carried amid
cheers, hisses, groans, and vast disorder.
A vote of thanks was then passed to the chairman, aad the
meeting separated.

PALMERSTON ASTRIDE ON THE JIE ITIiIi LION.—The
curious enquirer, who may wade through tho Ministerial
speeches at the Mansion House banqu,t, in search of in-
dications of a policy, will finl his labour in vain. All
that can be gleaned from them is, that Lord P,dmorston
is determined, to borrow a felicitous expression from our
cotemporary the Spectator, to "ride to the hustings on
the British Lion.—Daily Newt.
WHAT IS MODERATE SMOKING ?--I am acquainted with
11 a baronet who con.;neaes on an average three dozen cigars
daily. The inveterate smoking sailor (ha addition to chew-
' ing), as stat-d during this controversy, consumes sixteen
ounces of tobacco in a month, and vet both of these con-
siders themselves moderate smokers ! In INlilten's life, it is
mentioned by his biographer, that he only smoked, the last
thing before retiring to rest, one small pipeful of tobacco—
drinking a gl,ss of water after so doing. Milton, therefore,
must be said to be the type of moderate smokers ! In
Shakspeare'a time, smoking was practi,ed, and yet in none
of his plays does he make mention of tobacco. Bet Lord
Bacon, the Ciiristison and Pereira of those days, says,
"Tobacco smoking is a secret delight, serving only to
steal away men's brains." It is a well knotvii fact.that our
Premier, Lord Palmerston (who r erhaps requires more
soothing agents, &e., than any man living), is a bitter
opponent of the wood, and on evei y possible occasion,
when addressing his tenantry and the labouring classes,
takes care to denounce it in the following words Avoid
the public house as much as you can, but always steer
clear of the tobacco shop."—Letter in the Lancet,
COMPENSATION FOR RAILWAY INJURIES,— At the County
Sheriff's Court at York, on Friday, before Mr. W. Plan-
shard, assessor, the case of " Waterhouse v. the North
Eastern Railway Company" was Leszd. The plaintiff was
one of the passengers in an excursion train which was run
into at Cb.urch Fenton station at midnight on the 25th of
July last. He was seated in one of the carriages which was
smashed to pi eta, and sustained very serious injuries, viz ,
scalp wounds, cantased shoulder, lacerated kg, and broken
ribs. The plaintiff is a young man, 28 years of age, is
married, and has one child, and it is doubtful whether he
will ever be able to attend to business. The jury returned
the damages at £2,200. A similar ease, "Brain v. North
Eastern Railway Company," was next heard, the plaintiff
being the husband of one of the passengers who was killed
by the accident. The defendants consented to a verdict for
£l,OOO, one half to go to the widower, and the other half
to be equally divided among the children. Ii a third case,
" Nicholson v. the North Eastern Railway Company," the
defendants agreed to give £l5O in compensation for the
njuries sustained,

CAUSE-LIST

FOR THE
LANCASHIRE SPRING ASSIZES, AT LIVERPOOL.

SOUTHERN DIVISION.

ON SATURDAY, THE 21sT DAY OF MARCH, 1857,
Before the Honourable Sir CHARLES CRO,\,IPTON, KNIGHT, one of her Majesty's Justices of her Court

of Queen's Bench.
CHARLES TOWNELEY, ESQ., SHERIFF.

FIRST LIST.—SALFORD HUNDRED.
Plaintiffs. Defendants. Defendants' Attorneys.
Dunkerley and ors i v Lees and ano Redfern
Bellhouse and ano (sa) v The Mayor &cofM'chester Austin ,
Caz.moveand ano assees (sa) v Finnesey Rymer
Pott and ors assees (:as) v Lawe
Irving ( a) v South Eastern Railway Co
Thickharn (, a) v Anchor Assurauce Co J Hall
Thane (sa) v The Lane & York Rail Co Lewis, D and Co
Tilompoon (sa) v North Eastern Railway Co Newton and R
Charles • (Ea) v National Guar Ass Society Sale and Co
Duncan v Harding and ano North
Lawton (ra) v Whitaker ; II Forshaw
Fansha a: (air) v Peet P 0 . Milae and Son
B ainiat and ano v Simons and ors Horner
Webster ; . v Harrison ...j: Cobbett and W
Baia v Webster . Conway
Sheridan . v New Quay Co - . a Southaaa
Bramall v Lees
SECOND LIST.—WEST DERBY HUNDRED,
1 QB..,Bennett and S Wilkinson (ea) v Teall
2 Ex ...Rowe Waring Junr v Everth
3 Ex Lewis and Co Smith (Ca) v Long
4 Ex ...Same Price (sa) v Dillon and ors
a Ex ...A.vison and R Martin (sa) v Fratigopulo and and
6 Ex ..,Hodgson Allen v Gibson :
7 CP...Barnett and IVI Stubbs . (sa) v Baker ,
8 CP...Francis and A Hutchinson v Conroy
10 QB...Hughes _ Hughes '-', v Frodsham
11 CP...Yates Jun French and ors ' : v McHenry
12 Ex,. Wright and H , Ormerod .*. „
.. - v Turner and ors exors &c
13 Ex ...Barratt Suckling VI .1 v Bayldon
14 CP...Bolton Baker - (sa) v Stubbs
15 QB...Lowndes and Lo Mavrogordato _ (eJ) v Hindson ,
16 Ex ...Pye and Co Burgoyne v Jackson
la Ex ...J and H Gregory Stewart (Fa) v Wright and ano
19 Ex ...Robson Rawnsley , . v Mawdsley
21 Ex ...Same Same (sa) v Smith and ano
22 CPL. W and C EEaton Holme and anr v Buckley
23 CP...Yates Jun Jones admor &c (sa) v Provincial Insurance Co
24 QB...Lowndes and Co Ely (os) v Bell
25 CP...Dodge Harrison and anr (sa) v Lee
26 QB...Kirkbank Shillingford (es) v Chester & Holyheal R. Co
27 CPL Johnson Hignett v Blundell ,
28 QB...Lowndes and Co Brennand (al) v Ker andlors
29 Ex ...Haw and T Mann v Scott
30 Ex —Fletcher and H Grainger and ors :(ca) v Kirkpatrick
31 CP...Grin3mer S winnerton (sa) v Lon & Nor Western R. Co
32 CP.aßoscoe Allan (ea) v Walters i; A
33 QB...Lowndes and Co Holderness and ano v Bohtlingk
34 Ex ...Fletcher and II Meek v Foyn
35 Ex ...H Forshaw Baines 1 (sa) v Royal Ex Assurance Co
36 QB...Shattock Leather v Busby and ano
37 Ex ...Williams Gurney and Ux v Lloyd
38 Ex ...Godfrey T Jones v Hughes
. . ..
39 Ex ...Neal and M Ford and anr v Hannay
40 Ex ...Lace and Co Neilson v Ande: soon
41 Ex ....Duncan and Co Miller and anr (sa) v Fletcher and anr
42 CPL. Roby Houghton and ux admix &c v Hignett and anr '
43 CE'L.Teelatv Gill al
.. v Sparks and ano
44 Ex ...Conway - McKnight v Duckworth and ano
45 Ex ...Same Jones
. .
.. v Same
46 CP...Rawson and Co Bottomley - (FJ) v Nuttall .- -
47 EK ...II Forshaw Cotesworth and ors (ea) v Wood and ors
48 CPL.Johnson Parkinson ~;.,, v Jackson
49 QB...Fenton and Co Radcliffe, Baronet v Whitworth and ano
50 Ex ...Darlington Harrison :-• v Worthington;
..
51 Ex ...Rogerson and P Parry .'- '.] v Clarke
52 CP ...Johnson Hodgson v Hodgman
53 QB...Hassal -. Piaui), and ano exors ', v Pollard and ors
54 QB...Wills and 8,2 3 : Fraser v Jordan
55 Q B...Shattock a Deane a .. v Littledale and ors
56 CPL.Backhousa Edmondson it :7:-. v Wade ai
58 CPL.Deane Preston and ors v Tamplin and ano 1
59 Ex ...Ward Mackay and ors :1 v Oliver 1
60 QB...Swan Warden - ' v Stone
61 QB...Swift & Co The March. of Londonderry (sa) v The Sunderland Dock Co
62 CPL Backhouse Dean v Wright ,
..
63 CPL Same . Dean and ors v Wright
_.
64 Ex ...Haigh and T Brelin ~, (s.r) v Eatough
65 Ex ...R Bi: chall Wright • , v Bankes
66 CPL.T and R Radcliffe Aspdeu v Fielding and ano
67 Ex ..North and Co Whitley and ano (sa) v Parr and ano
68 QB ..Lowndes and Co Johnson and ano (sa) v Croft Russell
69 QB...Shattoek Tapson „, v Swift Blaekhurst
70 Ex ...Pemberton Blundell li v Gossage J Ansdell :7
71 CPL. Backhouse T Hartley v Greenwood Hall and Co -'7ll'
. ..-.
72 CPL.Sarne va Hartley v Sault, Same .: --
~..
. •
73 Ex ...Kayo Goddefroy and ors (as) v Hegan J B Lloyd 3 : '-
.
76 CP -Al Forshaw Whitaker l';a. v Lawton `" °'``- -W K Taylor '';`)- •
77 QB...Lowndes and Co Parry and ano v Trustees Birkenhead Dock Bircham and Co.
78 QB...Same Crosby and ors (sir) v Wilcox and ano H Forshaw - ' 4
... ~
79 QB...Shattoek Mane and ux v Willoughby and anr 11 ''

;

Mordaunt
Walker and
Thorntey and J


61
i

_; s

Conway
Evans and Son
Holden and Sm
W Heaton

Stone

24V.
Atkinsons and Co
Roby
Same

Etigovorth and P
Harvey and Co
Yates Jun
Swift and Co
H Forshaw
J 0 Watson]

Lowndes and Co
Swift and Co
Mewburn and Co
H Forshaw
LowndEs and Co
Freshfield
Hinde
Ritson
Campbell

1 and W Clare

Shattock
Swan
J and II Gregory
Same

Lowndes and Co
H Forshaw
Radcliffe and M
Swan
attison

Littledale and B

Littledale and B ;
Lowndes and Co
J B Wathen

Turner and Son
T Taylor
Pickup c,
7.11

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