The Northern Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-02-17 00:00:00

VACCINATION.

Mr. T. Duncombe asked the Vice-President of the
Board of Health when the committee on vaccination
agreed to by the Government during the last session was
to be appointed.

aiMr. Cowper said it was proposed that's. bill somewhat
similar to the one he brought in last year should be intro
duced this session, and referred to a select committee.

THE ECCLESIASTICAL COMMISSION.
Lord R. Cecil asked the Secretary for the Home De-
partment whether it was his intention to bring in any bill
for the purpose of giving effect to the recommendations of
the committee which sat last session on the Ecclesiastical
Commission.

Sir G. Grey said he would give notice of the introduc
tion of a bill on the subject on an early day.

ADMINBTRATIM OF JUSTICE.

Mr. M'Mahon asked the Secretary of State for the H ime
D3partment whether he ha'l any reason to expect that the
commis3ion for inquiry into the administration of justice
will make a report in time to found a measure thereon
this session. . .

Sir G. Grey said the commission was now sitting, and,
as he understood, was taking evidence. It was impossible
for him to sly, not being a member of the commission
when the report would be ready.

GOVERN MENT OFFICES,

Lord It. Cecil asked the Chief Commissioner of Works
whether the judges of the approaching competition with
reference to the new government offices would be appointed
before the day on which the plans were sent in ; and also,
whether he intended, in: appointing the judges, to confine
his selection to those who were unentangled by any per-
sonal connection with the profession, or whether he
intended to include among them practising architects.
Sir B. Hall said it was not his Intention to appoint
judges before the plans were sent in. It was his intention
to appoint some judges, who were not engineers or ar-
chitects, so that they might be able to decide with impar-
tiality on the plans submitted to them.

TIDE EXPULSION OF MR, JAMES SADLEIR, M P:
The Attorney General for Ireland z ose, pursuant to
notice, to propose the following resolution :—" That
James Sadleir, Esq., a member of the house, having
been charged with divers frauds and fraudulent practices,
and bills of indictment for certain misdemeanors
having been found against him, and warrants issued
for his apprehetAen, and the said James Sadleir
having failed to obey an order of this house that he
should attend in his place on Thursday, the 24th day
of Jaly last, and having fled from justice—that the
said James Sadleir be expelled this house." The
honourable and learned gentleman cited many cases to
show the power possessed by the house to expel an
off: ding member, and explainf'd the peculiar =cum-
s'ances of 1J r. Sadlier's case, and how it differed from
the position it assumed when it was before tho house
on the 24th of July last. It was not a private charge
made against Mr. Sadleir, but one that had been made

from the bench of justice, and of which Mr. Sadleit
might be supposed to be fully aware, especially as warrants,
the nature of which had been made public, had been issued
for his apprehension, and bills of indictment charging him
with several censpiracies to defraud bad been preferred
against him, and true bills had been found by the grand
jury in the county which Mr. Sadleir represented: The
hon. and learned gentleman then proceed to lay
before the house documen ary evidence to show
.that the constabulary in Ireland, and the police ill
England, had been unremitting in their exertions
to secure Mr. Sadleir during the last seven months,
in the course of which time he had allowed two opportuni-
ties to go by of having his case fully inves igated. He then
read a letter which he had received, dated Paris, Feb. 12, is
which the writer, who gave his name " James Scully,
said that Samos Sadlier was in Paris, and that he bad
seen him enter a house in the Palais Royal, and that he
had ascertained that he dined there every day. The writer
added that Mr. Sadlier was very much altered, that be NO
lost much flesh, and that the appearance had been greatly
changed by a large moustache. He (the Attorney Ganeral)
did net know the handwriting of Me. Scully, but be
believed that he was a gentleman who had resided
in Tipperary, and had been obliged to leave it on account
of the losses he had sust iined through the failure of the
Tipperary Prink. Mr. Scully in his letter stated that be
nai alit easily be arrested if the government would seed over
officers for that purpcsa; but he regretted to say that the
treaty existing between England and France would not
en dale the government of England to arrest Mr. Sadlier ed
such a charge in Paris.
Mr. G. Butt seconded the motion. •
Sir F. Tbesiger thought there would be no dire_
ferecce of opini ea on the motion, but as they were
about to add another to the list of disagreeable preoth•
dents, it would be well that the grounds upon which
they were about to proceed should be well understood,
in order that the house might have no difficalty
in similar cases hereafter. When the case #181?
before the house in July the Master of the Rolls had de;
Oared that a gigantic fraud had been committed in the
case of the Tipperary Bank, and that Mr. Sadlier tred„„
invc Iced in it. The whole of the circumstances were brought
before the house at that time by the hon. and learned
member for Sheffield (Mr. Roebuck) ; and precedents
were mentioned by the right hon genteman the member
for the University of Dublin (Jr.l Napier), and be.
could not see in what respects the ease presentee'
a different appearance from what it presented in July
last. He did not mean to say that the fac•s in pos•
session of the house were not sufficient to justify the
immediate expulsion of Mr. Sadleir. bat his argument was
that nothing more was known than the house knew id
July lest. The Attorney General for Ireland had stated id
July that it would be better to wait until there was ae,
outlawry against Mr. Sadleir, but that could not be obtainfe
until November next. The only piece of additional infor-
mation was contained in a private letter addressed to' the
right hon. gentleman, and he thought the house would
doubt whether the right hon. gentleman had acted dig'
erectly in communicating the contents of that letter to St'
Sadleir through the ordinary channels of information.
Mr. Roebuck contended that there was no difference
between his motion last year and that of the Attorney
General for Ireland, except in point of time. He belief .
that if, upon the first blush of the charge against lOri
Sadleir, the Attorney General had proposed his resolutioei
it would have had a great moral effect upon the country ;
but instead of that, the Attorney General had given M
Sadleir time to run away. He had run away, add nowt,
:
private letter was brought down to prove that he had reit
away—all of which the house knew before; The man lieu.;
been charged at a thief and a swindler, and it was the &It',
of a member, whenever such a charge was made agaills.
him, to rush at once to meet it.
The Solicitor-General (Mr. Wortley) explained the fell
grounds upon which the motion was resisted in July last'
,
Up to that time Mr. Sadleir had had no opportunity
of vindicating himself, and it was believed that such 16
course would have been at that time premature, and the
Government were not disposed to recommend the howl
to act rashly upon the matter. Since that time 113°9
material facts had come to light which imparted.
different character to the whole proceedings.
Mr Whiteside held that the facts which were before the.
house in July last, were quite sufficient to justify tb°
expulsion.
After some further discussion the resolution vf°
adopted.
The motion was then agreed to.

THE BUDGET.
Go the motion for going into 'committee of supply, I
The Chancellor of the Exchequer said, the vote 13,
£2,000,000 of Exchequer Bonds was a necessary prelimivari
to going into committee of ways and means, and therefore
asked the house to assent to the motion which he made on
Frid-ty last, and discuss the budget in the ways and mead
committee.
Mr. Disraeli gave notice, on the income tax resolutiod
he should move—That it was the opinion of the howl
that it would be expedient, before sanctioning the financi
arrangements for the ensuing year, to make arra va
nge etlt
to defend the country against error or deftieney in the
years 1853-59 and 185960, and to make arra:igen:let
that the remission of income tax in 1860 would.
embaria-s the country.
Mr. Gladstone insisted that the navy estimates sboul6
not be brought on until the house discussed the fin3nel
statement on a whole.
Lord John Russell concurred with Mr. Gladstone. a°
Lord Palmerston promised that the army estimate°
should not be taken that night. the
The Chancellor of the Exchequer, understanding the
resolution of Mr. Disraeli as doubting whether provithe
had been made to meet the reductions of taxation 10
b e 0
years to which his motion referred, stated to the to,
an estimate of the revenue of the years 1858 and lE
and 1859 and 1860. He anticipated that in 1859 and
the revenue would ba as follOws :—From Cuet°7,
£22,350 000, from Excise, £17,450,000, from Stl'A
£7 550,000, from land and assessed taxes, £3,160.'00,
from income tax, £7,160,000, from Post-office, £3,000 §i
from Crown Lands, £265,000, and miscellalleld
£1,385,000, making a total of £62,300,000. ,hat
estimated the extraordinary expenditure for
year at £3,500,000, which with £2,000,000
od,
Eichcquer Bonds, and £1,500,000 Sinking PlO
left a nett revenue of £5B 800,000. In 1859.60 i 6
revenue from Customs would be £22,000,000, front fie)
£17,700,000, from Stamps £7,770,000, from Land4oo,
Assessed Taxes £3,150,000, from Income Tax £7,18'1/0415
from the Post °Elise £3,000;000, from Crown J-1;,,,
£265,000, and from Miscellaneous Items L1,300,00%1
making a total of £62,365,000, leaving a net revenoveo*
£58,765.000. The gross expenditure in 1853-4 .nef
.e 58,840,000, therefore, according to his estimates, 'Zia
discharging all liabilities of exchequer bonds and sin!),
fund, there was an excess beyond expenditure 0/er.lol
last years of peace of £3,000,000. The whole of this -01
would be applicable to any increased charge of arrofAees
navy, or civil service, and only the interest on the:100
would have to be deducted, so that he thought he had
a sufficient margin.
After a brief discussion, it was agreed that Mr. Ms-e.g.'
motion should be taken in the ways and means COintnt
on Friday.

MISCELLANEOUS BILLS, &C.
The Chief Constables Bill was read a second AO
The Commons Inclosure Bill, and the Marine .0)'"
Bill went through committee. 04'
The Select Committee on Public Monies Was 1:1°
nated.