Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-01-05 00:00:00

TOXTETH PARK BOARD OF HEALTH

The usual Monthly Meeting of this Board was held
yesterday, at the Public Offices, Park-place. Mr. H. S.
Alpass occupied the chair. The other members present
were—Messrs. E. Hughes, George Walker, W. Currie. F.
Woodhead, W. D. Smith, Joseph Boult, William Wain-
wright, John Rogers, and J. R. Darcie.
The following letter was received from Mr. Jeffery :

" Sir, —I am sorry I am obliged to tender my resig-
nation as a member of the Board, feeling that I cannot
do justice to my public duties, and therefore make way
for a better man.—l am, sir, your's, &c.,
"To the Chairman, &c." "JAMES R. JEFFERY."

The following letter from Mr. Newlands was also read

" Sir,—l have just been admonished by a disagreeable
occurrence of the desirableness of having my position
in relation to your Board clearly defined and understood
by the members. You will find what was expected
from me, set forth in Mr. Avison's letter to the
Health Cpmmittee, of the 27th of August, 1856 ; but, as
you never had a qualified engineer or surveyor in your
employment, I have been, in point of fact, acting as well
as consulting engineer. Permit me to say that, during
the whole of my intercourse, I have, with a single ex-
ception, received kind and courteous treatment. As that

my- relation to the Board, it is to guard -a,gainst its
recurrence that I make my present application. The
greater part of the sewerage works, respecting
which you wished for my assistance and advice,
have been completed ; but there are still ques-
tions the settlement of which my assistance may
be useful to the Board, and which I shall cheerfully ren-
der, if it is wished that the relations between us continue.
—I have the honour to be, sir, yours, &c.,
" JAMES NEWLANDS, Borough Engineer.
" To the Chairman of the Toxteth Board of Health."

A memorial, signed by the Marquis of Salisbur-y, and
twenty inhabitants residing in Southdown-lane, was
received by the executive committee, urging that the inha-
bitants in that locality should not be taxed for a sewer that
is to be made in Southdown-lane. The memorial goes on to
state that the lane is a public thoroughfare, and conse-
quently the cost of draining it should come out of the
public funds:,,

Mr. F. Woodhead reinar
ignorant in what relation Mr
board.

ked that he was entirely
. Newlands stood with the

Mr. Rogers said, if they put a construction upon it, he
meant to tender his resignation. He would not put this

move t

hat a specia

Tuesday next

Mr. oult said, the fact was, that at the meeting
of the executive committee, on Saturday last, there
was considerable misapprehension by the chairman of the

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committee and other1
members, as to the relation Mr.
Newlands had with the Board. Several matters passed
which were offensive to Mr. Newland, and he withdrew
from the meeting, declining to give the committee any
additional assistance. He just mentioned that, so that
attention might be called to the matter, and as men of

business the- affair might be put straight with as little
unpleasantness as possible ; on Saturday M. Newlands
considered that he was not treated with that courtesy
required by his profession, and, therefore, .with-
drew. If regret was expressed by the gentle-
men who insuted Mr. Newlands, no doubt the
.matter would be arranged satisfactorily. He ' (Mr.
Boult) thought it right that the board should pass a re-
solution to Mr. Newlands, requesting him to continue
his services upon the former understanding. He thought
the board was not in a position at present to incur any
additional liability in the appointment of a fresh engi-
neer. It would not be worth while, for the next few
years, to engage a gentleman who would devote the
whole of his time to the service of the board at such a
salary as he would require.
• Mr. Hughes said he could prove that Mr. Newlands
was paid for his work. He was of opinion, that as a
member of the board, he had a right to enter into an
explanation as to how that affair occurred.
The Chairman : You shall have an opportunity
presently.
Mr. Hughes (to the Chairman) : I be
porters be not interfered with

that the re-

Mr. Boult then moved the following resolution :
" That this board much regret that Mr. Newlands should

and that he be requested to give his valuable assistance,
in accordance with the resolution passed on the ?6th of
August, 1866."
Mr. Darcie seconded the resolution.
Mr. Hughes said, the parties had scarcely opened the

meeting, when the chairman of the board said he was
prepared for a fight. He displayed a very irritated
mind, and irritation came with him in the room.
The Chairman : It is not correct what Mr. Hughes has
stated.

Mr. Hughes : More than once he has been
prepared for a fight, and he has been seconded
by Mr. Boult. He (Mr. Hughes) went on to
say, that he was reading a memorial signed
by a number of inhabitants residing in Southdown-lane,
when the Chairman and others went over to examine the
plans of the sewerage of Southdown-lane. He contended
it was not right they should do so, when he (the Chair-
man of the Executive Committee) was reading an impor-
tant memorial, he called the attention of others to the
-circumstance, when the present Chairman, in an irritable
manner, said he could not attend to two or three things
at once. All 1 -laimed hould

.se c. . was, that the ratepayers s.
receive proper attention to their memorial. The borough
engineer was asked a question with reference to drainage,
which he refused to answer, stating that it was not his busi-
ness, and that they did not know his position to that board.
He would not give an answer, but rose up on his metal,
and walked off with the plans. Another thing with
reference to Mr. Newlands; he attended that board
probably on all necessary occasions. He brought a
plan which would create an expenditure of thousands
of pounds, and he (Mr. Hughes) contended that
it was necessary that the board should make an examina-
tion of those plans, to know what they were doing with
the public money. They were told that if the consulting
engineer had given his opinion, they had no right to
question his ability or his design. Such was really the
case.

The Chair Man reminded Mr. Hughes that he must
keep to the point:

Mr. Huglies said he should not have made the memo-
randum which he held in his hand, if the chairman had
all,Aved any one to speak as well as himself. $e pro-
ceeded to speak with reference to the contemplated railway,
about nine months ago, coming within their district.
Mr. Newland's opinion was taken upon that question,
and the chairman seconded it in a very noble manner.
They proceeded to form a parliamentary committee ; they
went on with their opposition ; and what did they
discover at the end ? They found that they had expended
one half of their rates in joining in the opposition. The
principal gentleman on the other side said, what a pity
it was they did not go to him at first; if they had done
so, the matter would have been settled at once. That
was the statement of Mr. Boult ; if they had gone to him,
there would have been rio expense attending it.
The Chairman : You must stick to the question, or sit
you down. Now, mind that.
Mr. Hughes proceeded to say that, with reference to
Mr. Newlauds receiving no pay, he found, according to
the general district rate book, that he had received pay—
perhaps not for his own pocket—to the amount of z£l2s
during the past year. He found that another officer, Mr.
Williams, received £65 per annum. _

The Chairman : I must contradict that at one

Mr. Hughes : I don't say it was for his own pocket ;
it might be for Cornwallis-street. I say this Board are
burdened with such expenses, through Mr. Newlands,
that they are little aware of.
The Chairman said he had allowed Mr. Hughes more
liberty than he should any other gentleman at the Board,
in consequence of having previously complained of not
being heard.
Mr. Hughes thought it would turn_ out that £25 had
come from Grove-park.
The Chairman urged that there was nothing done
which the Board wished to conceal. They had done
nothing which would not bear the light of day.

Sevearal members : That's quite true.
Mr. Hughes said, he could correct that statement.
There was £125 to begin with.
The Chairman : Where is your authority for that ?
It was then agreed that the general district rate-book
should be laid on the table.
Mr. Hughes contended that the chairman, last summer,
had brought before them the pro.pribty of votin,
board,
a sum
of money to Mr. Newlands, for his services to the
as it would not do for him to receive a fixed salary.' He did
not get the money then, as they were out of fundut it was
agreed that we should wait till theycould pay the amount.
would give to Mr.
Supposing it was £lOO or £5OO they would
Newlands, surely they could get
employed he would not
sum than that ; but whoever they ability for a much less
be able to devote the whole of his time to their services.
He urged that it was not right foi. Mr. Newlands to stand
up to the chairman of the executive committee and say
he was not a paid officer.
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Mr. G. Walker briefly- defended himself against the
remarks made with reference to last Saturday's
proceedlngs.

- Some further desultory conversation ensued, when the
chairman put the motion to the meeting. Six voted for
the motion and four against' It was therefore carried.
The Chairman said the Board were probably not aware
that, at certain periods of the year, they got a bill from
the Health Committee of Liverpool, made out in their

name, for the services of their clerks and surveyors, in
executing what survey might be necessary for them.

Mr. Smith thought that, in spite of the resolution thgy
had passed, they were much in the same position.
The Chairman said the time was evidently fast ap-
proaching when they must have a competent surveyor_
They were about to frame bye-laws and lay down reouls,--
tions how houses should be built, and if they did that,
they must have a competent person to see that they were
carried-out. The board had gone so far as to see their
way more clearly than they did at first. He thought
Mr. Mulkhouse might be made a collector of rates,
and therefore save the poundage paid to Mr.
Watson. It would be decreasing the expense if they had
an efficient person, like Mr. Mulkhouse. He merely
threw out the suggestion, so that the members of the
board might give it some consideration.
Mr. Rogers said they had some difficulty in obtaining
Mr. Newland's services, and he always thought there
was some provision to be made, but he believed he could
not be engaged at a salary, because he was the servant
of the Health Committee, He hoped the affair would
pass over now that it had been explained, And he hoped
they would retain his services.
The Board then separated.

The fortnightly meeting of the Select Vestry was held
at ten o'clock yesterday, the Rev. Rector Campbell in
the chair. The other members present were—Messrs.
Bairstow, Whitty, Owen, Luff, Syred, Jackson, Williams
Cook, Turner, By ford, Scott, Peck, Gair, and Hughes.

WORKHOUSE COMMITTEE.
The proceedings of the Workhouse Committe

been read.

leaving

Mr. Denton expressed a hope that a similar occurrence
would not take place to that which had been remarked
upon regarding the Sunday afternoon services in the
workhouse. Three Sunday's successively, the inmates, to
the number of about 300 or 400, were assembled in the
dining-hall, and sat in that cold apartment upwards of an
hour, but no minister came to perform the duty. Ile
thought instead of moving a vote of censure upon Mr.
Shillinglaw, the offiicer who allowed a Scripture reader
to perform the duty upon one occasion, for a •little over
officiousness, that gentleman deserved that the committee
should have thanked him. •

Mr. Jackson regretted that Mr. Shillinglaw should upon
the occasion referred to not have conferred with the governor,
and then he would have been right, but it must not be
forgotten that Mr. Evans, the party alluded to, had been
previously approved of by the vestry and the committee.

to imparC religious instruction. He exceedingly regretted
that so much had been said with reference to the services
of the dissenting ministers having failed for three Sabbaths.
He thought it wonld have been more considerate and

some inquiry had been made as to the causes of those
failures. As Mr. Haggar had very properly said, the
Rev. Mr. Birrell did take a great deal of trouble to get
clergymen to come in and perform the services, and in the
bbath not being supplied, he engaged
laggar's readiness

to do all that was required in the case, he not being so
fully acquainted with the engagement of ministers as Mr.
Birrell, and others were likely to be, did not give infor-
mation in sufficient time for Mr. Birrell to make the
arrangements complete. He (Mr. Jackson) begged then-
Tore distinctly to say, and he hoped it would go
abroad to the public, in order to correct the impression
which had been circulated, that there was no reluctance
and no inability on the part of Dissenting ministers to
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they only received due notice. Instead of the reflections
and insinuations which had been made, he thought it
would have been more generous if the services of the
Dissenting ministers had been more gratefully acknow-
ledged, and if they had received further encouragement;
but he was sorry to say that there was no disposition to
encourage them, but rather a disposition to throw
hindrances in their way. The ministers complained
that the dining-hall was not a suitable place. If any
gentleman attended there, and listened to the clerk
saying grace, he would perceive the difficulty there was
to the inmates at any distance distinguishing what the
minister was saying. Owing to the size of the hall, andthe nature of the materials, the ring of the voice com-
pletely drowned the articulation. The hall was not filled
more than one-sixth. He was glad to perceive that the
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services of the Dissenting 'ministers had been such
as to provoke their chaplain, Mr. Wilson, to extra-
ordinary exertions. He hoped, however, that in seeking
to do that kind of work more fully, he would not neglect
that which might very fully and very usefully occupy any

spare time he might possess in the sick wards of that
institution. (Hear, hear.) He was sure he would find
plenty to do there if he were disposed to do it.
Mr. Bairstow said there appeared to have been some
mistake in the matter. Mr. Brown promised to come
the first Sunday in December, and on the Friday pre-
vious, he wrote to ask whether he should be expected to
preach on that day. Mr. Brown -was willing to come,
and held himself disengaged for the purpose, but Mr.
Hagar wrote to say that another gentleman was coming,
and that therefore his services would not be required.
The other gentleman, however, having officiated for one
of his brethren on the preceding Sunday, thought he
would be exonerated that day, and thus the mistake arose.
The room certainly was very unsuitable. There was such
an echo that it was like speaking in a bell, and as there
was not the slightest attempt made to warm the room, it
was absolutely like going into a well. It was incumbent

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upon the Committee to do something towards making
the room more comfortable.

Mr. Whitty remarked that the room was peculiarly
uncomfortable for the Roman Catholic inmates, whose
service required so much kneeling, as they had to kneel
upon. the bare flags.
After some further consideration, the proceedings were
confirmed.

Nothing of any interest arose ont of the proceedings
of the Industrial Schools, or Workhouse Committee.

We (Bombay Tines, Dec 9) have much satisfaction in
announcing the arrival of a reinforcement for the mis-
sions of Western India. The Rev. Messrs. Galbraith
and Hofer and Mrs. Hofer, in connection with the
Church Missionary Society, arrived by the Windsor
Castle. We believe that Mr. Galbraith will, after the
lapse of some months devoted to the study of the lan-
guages, assume charge of the Money Institution, and that
Mr. Hofer is destined to the Jooneer station.

A DEPOSITOR OF .810,000 IN A. BANK TREATED AS A
THIEF.—A respectable young man, in a branch bank g
Bangor, had appointed Chrishnas eve to meet some friends
in Liverpool, who were bent on pleasure, but determined
to gO round by way of Manchester, and convey s
large amount or specie of which he had charge, to the
superior branch in this city, for transmission to Lon-
don. • He arrived safely at the banking-house, rung the
bell rather sharply ; the door was opened quickly, and
somewhat
the money Ras *deposited in _the lobby alomuonstt
of beforeth
e
his presence was discovered. He had frequently been
there on a similar errand, but the servants, two females,
, poenrhaacpcs,
had been changed since his last visit; and, being
severityw,'rap uppedof
thein
confidently, their successors,
v\iVnh: presentedattai ne
athknemo swell::
Ntrweaot hl aerrg, ea
and great sivcaokaitng,
took it into their heads that he was neither more nor
less than some one who, ha
of the absence of the manager and his lady, and the
resident secretary, enjoying the evening with their
friends at a distance from town, had a'design upon
the bank. The cook especially was much excited, a,,,a
on his saying he wanted the key of the bank room to
piece the specie there, as he had immediately to
toto obtain
access by train to keep his pleasure engagement, she pglaged
defied
avant the
herself resolutely at the door, and
access to the room, whilst the other
scarcely
remonstrancehouse. guarded
Somewhat
passage to the other parts
ploafinthhe.
ultieeseioutudldpsoscale• iserraanndd,diasnpdutaatbioonNt
policeman presented himself, and addressed him
It'vlieunisneiadn'p
as "Hallo, gov'nor, so I have got you at last. - It was -a
very good try On,
and at a very good time too • but it
wont't do—you must
go withme' The gentleman'
treated the remark jocosely, and -
replied, " Hallo, nay fine
fellow, are you a friend of the cook ? Is the kitchen a part
of your beat ? " " Come, come," says the policeman,
"I
am not to be done in that way ; yon
with me," preparing to lead
lock-ups. "Very well," says
the other, "if I must, I suppose I must, so bring along
that bag, for where I go that must be with me, for the
present at least." The policeman, thinking now he was
in fair view of "a case," and perhaps dreaming of re-
wards and promotions, essayed to seize the bag, but, to his

astonishment, found it rattier-heavier than heubad
pated—it contained somewhere about 10,000 sovereigns,
and weighed more than 200 cwt. Seeing him is
something of a quandary, the gentleman suggested• that
he had better send for some help; if he was determine,'
upon taking him into custody, as the bag was heaVy,,,uul
it must go with him. The Inspector shortly aft:l7:e of
arrived, and put the suspected through a 1,t,n2Een.,,..4....,

examination, but his snspicions and those or D .........m.
were not removed, At length the gentleman suggested
that the servant should take his card to the manager, as;
he must know where lie was to be found; a car was.oat,..
but of course too late for thegnatie—a
tered, and, after travelling- about three miles, detaining
the suspected for an hour and a-half under the immediate
surveillance of the police, the manager Was found,
came to the rescue,
man to join his friends in Liverpool.
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