The Northern Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-03-24 00:00:00

WARD MEETINGS,

e MR. EWA RT'S MEETiNGS.
.1-\evening the friends of Mr. E wart held a meeting in
Pr°;"',"mal School koarn, Bean street, for the purpose of
lar,'tint the election of that gentleman. There was a very
idi're attendance of the electors present, and af er the
ess of the Chairman, Mr. Ewart addressed the electors,
kia recapitulated the opinions he had formerly
4f,lated,
13r- ale conclusion of that mee'ing, Mr. Ewart
tle',,?—'ed to the Pllceaix Hotel, West Dcrby, to meet the
08 of that ward.
thor,',,Chalcaers presided. On taking the chair, he stated
(tie electors of that ward were met together on a most
I.4e)rtar,t occasion, and that was to elect Suitable and
barlia'bye—tlaughter) —men to represent the town in
town rent. reViearett the past history of the
bocce or ,the laEt 50 'years, in the course of which the Rath-
brot;i'laLue Croppers, and the Ewarts, had taken a most
cap nt Part in forwarding the progress of the people,
otthe rd upon the electors th support the representativ;,
Ntatn_ named fainily, who had dons so much to aid in
of progress,
Mr, '.,,.'-'edger then propoed a i-esolution to the effect that
toatl'lvart was a fit and proper pers ,n to represent the
k °I Liverpool in the House of Commons.
qtetor;Wart then came forward and briefly addressed the
•Ptlyee„B-,_ recapitulating the same ideas he had formerly
kr:lllbged to the electors of the Ward.
That. ,Qvfell then mated the following resolution :
sqto the opinion of this meeting, Joseph C. Ewart,
xl).1:48 tro'ved himself to be a fit and proper person to
,%111‘ .is.;,4t the Liberal electors of Liverpol in the House of
'04;1'5? and that we pledge ourselves to use every Effort
TVre his return."
arl.)Dten'ti Was seconded by kr. Rhodes, and unanimously
1 !
arid th illeeting was afterwards addressed by Mr. Rawlins,
Ewarta electors separated by giving three cheers for Mr.

qoti.' 4s-
ANGE AND CASTLE STREET WARDS.
i),4 th„
s 7tlo of the electors of Exchange and Castle street
,avolgirable to the return of Mr. T. B. Ho sfall and
sight; .• Turner, as members for the borough,_ was held last
the Royal Hotel, Dale street.
.Mr. James Tyrer and
tost !4. Livingstone, represen tati yes ot the wards in the Town
lets` e presided ; and among the other gentlemen present
litsG. W. Moss, F. Foster, George Webster, John Herd,izi
4ibson T Bold, Alderman Bennett, W. Worrell, H. hypotni G. H. Horsfall, Beley, W. Radcliffe,
Atei,:etuner, Pearson. Cobb, Evans, Stuart, Weir
aleni Macrovie, H. W. Nixon, James Robertson, W.
Tilrn'uter, A. P. Fletcher, J. Parrott, T. Walmsley, E.
&c.
414' Tyrer briefly epened the meeting by calling on Mr.
14,,r4411 Bennett '‘o move the first resolution. folisw: .
Alderman Bennett mooed the resolution, which was as
Illasit-.--"fhat this meeting begs to express its
tstc Thomas Berry Horsfall, Esq., for the zealous
t his duties, as one of the representatives of the
'kil ter.' Perlianrent and for the able manner in which hethe
art
tetoled the town' from the attack made on its rights by
They Pred abrogation of the town dues." (Cheers.)
tow,c could not be two opinions, the mover observed, that the
Ist °wed a deep debt of gratitude to Mr. Horsfall,
1411 ,half itsl
t" great exertions made by him
'iellll. , If they had not had a gentlemani like
ihegihle'l versed in the matter in every part, and with a tho-
'ilkiis ""dedge of the subject to the very foundation, what
Igae,-' 'meld they have had of resisting the violence brought
PertY them, to take away their just rights to this large pro-
e}4 R (Cheers) And if these dues were taken away, they
.47111 ,1 " 1,44 to their deep regret, that a large amount of taxation
itiflicted on the property of the town, to make good
(nh„'"pot which the Town Dues now realised for them.
1'41%11.) The representation of the town was safe in the
bald °,f Mt. Horsfall, 'and he (Mr. Bennett,) hoped they
116°1 ' their gratitude to him, by placing him at the
I‘4 poll in the coming contest. (Cheers.)
t.l r.il-,Y, f°rd seconded the resolution, and in doing so,
crntr ,10Y would return not only Mr. Horsfall, but Mr.
(Hear, hear, and cheers.) As a representative
thtv„-,-al'igo ward, and as Chairman of the Dock Committee,
to ere much indebted to Mr. Turner, and they were hound
i,ll "W their appreciation of his services, by now returning
18 their representative in Parliament.
fre
Ar"olution was unanimously adopted.
p°}'icjl P. Fletcher rose to move the second resolution,
!res 'Was as follows : " That this meeting cordially
Ilaees t° Horsfall Mr. orsfall and Mr. Turner as cans
em
ee,i f; for the representation of this borough, and pledges
141 e 'lse every lawful exertion to secure their trium-
r,
t retuen, (Cheers )
t4betild. Alriermatt T. Bold : With all due deference, we
4'rese' think, first hear the opinions of the candidates
list
g.rPassing that resolution, Yon know we may
Mali e with them. (Great laughter.)
nurt,fall then came forward, and was enthnsias-
e44s
? teeeived. He said—Gentlemen, electors of Ex-
and Castle street wards, fellow townsmen,
"le Er," to assure you that I feel deeply grateful for
Leas:derY flattering manner in which you have been
'et " to adopt the first resolution. Believe
f
You, aPPreeiate the distinguished honour of being onel o
tsett 4Presentatives. (Cheers.) But, believe. me a also,
t4lleert!ett, that I feel most deeply its duties and
.1
,7 I etis,tbiliti„_(hear, hear)—and upon no one question
as W interest did I ever feel the responsibility greateri
t;,
e l(cls;"" I was called upon to oppose that iniquitous bill
„."'t ts)--to which reference has been made, entitled
i,;'°tal Dues Bill." (Cheers.) I felt that it was a
ten thi3l),.ortue the '
ti'on affecting not only the intersts
wantn, buts interests of all property in e
the
tIsla:11' I felt, gentlemen, that if that bill passed the
Wa:`,llre no ro ertyin the country was secure.
.(Cheers.)
neld PS.PF ederick Thesiger that the title to the
duesy r asgood a title as to that of any
thltertyiq the kingdom. (Hear, hear) And how was
met 11,14,,,ark of Sir Feederick Thesiger met ? It was
1,01 Mr. Lowi— (hisses) saying, " they are
it 4 by some Musty parchments—away
setawh your
141,,P0i al3,,a‘rehluents." (Laughter.) Now, this very
Pl,-thatC,‘ question to this town, because, as has been
by a gentleman this evening, if these dues are
:kat"e", how is the deficiency to be made up but by local
;tll tii4 col the inhabitants? (hear, hear) ; and though I know
no town in the kingdom would more cheerfully pay
i-41,1-',ll:late tax, 1 know that no town in the kingdom would
pia d qnantly repel a tax laid upon thou, or attempted to
I,4€l....sirliP°ll them, to supply a deficiency made by a.legadl
`7d cheers)—if ever such a bill shall be. sanctioned
pt eth t -.°ll Commons. Gentlemen, I might go at
this question, but 1 think you all understand it
) You know your interests—you
jyr.t. Z thiVetiter(estesao.ri this town—and I am deeply thankful
je to E,J been in any way Instrumental in enabling
Vie rid of that monetrous and iniquitous bill. (Cheers.)
Kj'eh4'„etniellsen I know that in addressing the electors of
sPeeele-: and Castle street Wards, I am addressing gentlemen
plea; 'll4terestedin the commercial prosperity of Liverpool.
Vdetl'Le,• all It is impossible for a stranger who has
withoutnot
'verpool for twelvemonth, to come here strilek b a
d 'ncrease in our commerce. It is
top ppeeverivftobreamn marked
of the town to be absent for
-tats
without being struck on his return with. the vaist
R,-e,nte Which taking place, and in no portion of t
114t.i.;t1,441;en., improvement than in the Wards of Castle street
th 'Lnange• (Hear, hear ) Look at these magnificent
lii,Q,l.a.c}: which are rising in the immediate neighbeurhood ofd
I,` be I:lnge structures not built by the corporate fun
lit;:_reVlrjrniate'enterprise—(cheers)—. and erected to meet
tt 'No ;agents of the town, arising out of the greatly
thlelt °f 'tlei°l7ninerce of the port.. But, gentlemen, if the
ltl;atted e town is to go on increasing it must not be
he acted as it has been thwarted, and constantly
"3' the effects of the Board f Trade. (Rear,
tV'l,,r) .14etteers.) Your commerce is extending and
e
are extending, underthe able management of
it;adtd Turner— and would have been
beg °f it cheers
)
he iniquitous proceed-
tl:: had not been
for
attempt which
411Ise
''adeoard of Trade thwaralng every
r„ Gto extend the dock accommodation of the
ear, hear, and laud cheers.) Gentlemen,
PlVard address which I ventured to put
that etc' you, there stated, as I repeat
(li',llsde that
the present constitution of the Board of
`'"ckery to tire mercantile interests of Liverpool.
l'rtsTc,',l"„,,.) You haver a peer presiding over it, and its vice-
mr. Lowe, a lawyer. (Hisses and laughter.) You
rteasi°t"ilo4ilV account for the interests of Liverpool--the
est) interests of Liverpool—being thwarted.. (Hear,
Oflitr Was asked on Saturday night if I were in favour of
t it'll't's4atiii°eant?io think I safely say I am not in favour
lik„rade ;_ hear, and laughter)—but the Board
the get favour of centralisation. (Laughter.) ft would
to "erything into its hands, and it did not so far meet
(i,sarlie ;own:.
our friends in Manchester, with reference
litktci hear)
—but
eB' as as to abrogate them altogether—
d to transfer them to the
I:qte °f Trade aspriasposteho case in other instances.
;%°,..constitutiou of the local Marino Board of Liver-
"Y' ineotio4l affecting Oar shipping tiso to be

referred to that board ; but now I see in the case of wrecks
that they are referred to the stipendiary magistrate and Capt.
Schombergh, instead of; as originally sanctioned by ,tr. La-
bouchere, to the Local Board, which, I am sure, would
investigate them as honestly as any pe•sons appointed by the
Board of Trade. (hear, hear.) Well, gentlemen, there are
other questions affecting the commerce of Liverpool. Vou
may recollect, those who are interested in shipping,
that during the session which is just Closed, a depu.,
tatiou went up from Liverpool and from the ports,
to represent to the government that there was an
undue liability resting on ship owners ; and what did
the Board of Trade do ? Why it did not respond at all
to the representation. It has no eveayatliy- with the
commerce of the country—(Hear. hear.) But, gentle-
men, the deputation was not satisfied with the answer of
the Board of Trade, and they were met by representatives
from other par's of the country, Who called upon their
members to accompany them. They sought an interview
wilt Lord Palmerston, accompanied, I think, by thirty
members of Parliament, and I am yet in hopes that.
notwithstanding the resistance of the Board, Lord
Palmeiston's, or whatever Government may be in power,
Will yet do justice to the shipowners of Liverpool.
They profess to be advocates of Free Trade ; but how
does this principle work ? An act is brought to bear on
Shipowners, which, when enacted, was simply intended
for railroads, to make railway companies liable for loss of life
in the case of passengers. It was subsequently applied to ship.
owners, so that a shipowner Whnse vessel meets with an accident
at sea, and lest% a number of passengers, is made responsible
not only to the full value of his Aip, btit to the full value of
the fr,-,':!gitt Also; and thus any shipowner may he ruined in a
(my unless he be a man of very large capital. (Hear, hear.)
_ .

. .
It was felt it was not fair that that should be so, but yet these
advocates of free trade, although they know that rio other
country in the world subjects their shipowners to such a
liability, still insist upon inflicting it upon British ship-
owners. We have heard t. great deal about coalition
in connection with the disgolution of Parliament. I Voted in
the minority with the government on tint occasion, and t am
quite sure that in voting as I did ivith Lord Palmerston on
that question, I spoke the sentiments of the people of Liver•
pool. (Flear, hear, and cheers.) But, gentlemen, when a
coalition is spoken of, and they mention a nobleman than
whom there is none more honourable in this kingdom —I
mean Lord Derby—(enthusiastic cheering)—when he denies
that he was a party to any coalition, where is the, man, in
either house of Parliament, or where is the man in Liverpool,
who would doubt the word of that high-minded man ?
(Renewed cheers.) Mr. Gladstone also—although I
differ with Mr. Gladstone upon many points,
yet he is a high-minded man, whose word

I would as soon take as that of any gentleman in this room
—(hear, hear)—he has denied there was any coalition.
Well, gentlemen, we have a denial also from Mr. Cobden.
(Laughter.)
A Voice " And Lord John Russell also."
Mr. Horsfall: Yes, and Lord John Russell; if you
please. Ido not believe that Lord John Russell leagued
himself to the coalition. The hon. gentleman, in con-
clusion, repeated the views Which he has already fres
quently expressed on the questions of the ballot and
education, and declared that he believed it was only by
upholding the Protestant principles of the Reformation
that the blessings of God would be vouchsafed to this
country. (Applause.)
Mr. Turner, in rising, was also enthusiastically received.
He said : Mr. Chairman, and Electors of Castle-street
and Exchange Wards, thanking you most sincerely, fist
the very gratifying manner in which you have received
me. I assure you I am very happy in appealing to those
with whom my public duties bring me more immediately
in contact, for a judgment in the manner in which those
duties are performed. To the electors of Castle-street
Ward, held by our own opponents to be their stronghold,
I would say that I can congratulate them in having elec`
so excellent a representative as my filend Mr. Livingstone
--(hear, hear)—and, gentlenien, as Castle-street Ward has
begun this good course, I hope you will go on in the same
path, and soon give Mr. Livingstone a colleague as excel-
lent as himself. (Hear. hear, and laughter.) To my
friends of the Exchange Ward, my constituents already in
the municipal council of the borough, and I hope, with your
assistance, I may be able to number them among my con-
stituents in the council of the nation. (Hear, hear, and
cheers.) To the electors of Exchange ward I am bound
by every tie" that can influenee A pinks man. The I
electors of Exchange ward have done me the honour of
three times electlng me their representative without oppo—
sition, and whenever I have had occasion to appear before
them, I have met with many marks of their approval,
Gentlemen, I am quite aware that these marks of approval
are more owing to your kindness than any desserts of mine
--(no, no)—but yet, neVerthelesS, it is extremely gratifying
to me to meet with this kindness, and I appeal with confi-
dence to the estimate which the electors of Exchange ward
have formed of my character for an answer to the abuse
which has been so freely lavished on me. (Cheers.) Gen-
tlemen, the honour of representing the town of Liverpciol
may justly be an object of ambition to any public man,
and more especially to a merchant of the town—(hear,
hear)—and, gentlemen, I do not know why ray opponent
should accuse me of puerile vanity in seeking for such an
honour. Gentlemen, I can assure you it was not to
gratify any vanity of mine that I seek for this honour,
but it was at your repuest and in obedience to your
invi-
tation that I came forward to solicit your suffrages-
( Hear, hear, and cheers.) When I returned from
London after the decision of the House of Commons, you
received me with a kindness I shall never forget; and when
I attended the meeting which was held at the Amphitheatre
soon after my return, for the purpose of promoting the
election of my friends, Mr. Horsfall and Mr. Liddell, the
enthusiastic reception which I there met with, will never he
effaced from my mind. (Cheers.) Upon that occasion an
implied pledge was entered into between me and the
Conservative constituency of Liverpool, that my
services were at their disposal if they chose to
ask for them, when the disability under which I
laboured, through the decision of the House of
Commons, was removed by the dissolution of parliament.
(Roar, hear.) That time has now, gentlemen, arrived, and
agreeably to your invitation I come before you to give you the
opportunity of renewing the veto of confidence in me which
you gave in 1852, and of replacing me i❑ that position—(cries
of "So we will")—from which I was removed. (Cheers:)
Since the decision of that committee, gentlemen, I have
devoted my energies to the performance of public duties as
chairman of the committee having the management of the
docks of the town, and I do trust that I way think that those
energies have not been devoted in vain to the services of
the town and trade of Liverpool. (Cheers.) Gentlemen, of
those duties it is not for me to speak--it is for you to say
whether you approve of what I have done or not,
Several voices : "We do." (Cheers.

Mr. Turner : With respect to general questions of religion
and politics, Y have expressed myself pretty freely within tae
last week, and to my friends of the Exchange Ward, I scarcely
think it necessary to repeat them. (Cries of "We know you

too well.") I hope and believe you know me too Nell to
require me to make any profes.4ons of my consistency—(hear,
hear)—and, gentlemen, I will not detain you by entering
into topics of that kind. The only subject to which
I will allude is t 3 the obseriations very currently made in
the town that there is no objection to your voting for Mr.
Ewart, though he represents different political opinions,
benause at this time there is no great question agitating
the public mind. Now, the observations that I have to
make to you upon this remark—that you are electing
members to serve for seven years in parliament, and that,
though it may be quite true there is no grew question at
present before the public mind, yet I beg you to bear in
mind that during these seven years many questions will
he brought before parliament affecting the Church and the
Constitution of this country—affecting everything that you
hold dear, and that it is most important to you that you
should choose representatives with principles that agree with
your own. (Hear' hear, and cheers.) That when these
questions are brought before the House of Commons, these
principles will guide them to a conclusion of which you
approve. (Hear, hear.) Gentlemen, it you are persuaded
now by any loose argument of this kind to seed a gentleman
—most respectable in his private capacity—
A Voice : u Ile is an old woman."

Mr. Turner : But who holds opinions totally at variance with
yours, and which you consider highly dangerous both in religion
and politics, how can you expect when questions of this kind
are brought before the Legislature, that ho will come to that
conclusion which you think for the benefit of the country ?
(Cheers.) In conclusion, Mr. Turner ',gain declared that his
principles were the same as be held in 1852, and as they were
those which the meeting approved of, he called on them to
return him with Mr. Horsfall, and to replace him in the
position from which he had been so unworthily removed.
(Applause.)
Mr. A. P. Fletcher then proposed the second resolution,
which he had already read.
Mr. H. Broom seconded it, and, in doing so, expressed
the strongest confidence in Mr. Turner.
The motion was unanimously adopted.
Thanks were voted to the Chairman, and the meeting
separated.