Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-08-05 00:00:00

mittee.

A:letter. was react front; Ar .
ing the beard that they were about to.place another
,',bhs,(

Ism. W. and D. Ilusby, inform=:

the matter of charge') ou amour
they Were put to. .• _

ae add

he letter was relerred.to. Works Committee.
A • letter was read from. lgr Henry 13radshawi goods
manager of the London and North-western Railway Cora-
pany, asking leave to place a hut onthe Iluskisson i?oek.
The letter, was, referred to the Docks . and Quays. Com-
mittee. . ,

A letter was read from the Finance; ComMittee of tiu.
Town:)Conncil, declining to bearauy,.partion of . the expen,
necessary for carrying out :a proposed plan for i',
the-faciaties,for traffiq across the river.
..The.',letter was-,referred tq,the Works,comra,
PILOTAGE COMMITTEE. ..
The proceedings•of the,r- 'mit'

a,creasing

110 tagg Uarr

AC cont

tion-of -which had
raznnri donna 1-tthur

from the .Board of. Trade was read, with. referer
surveilance of plots arrd the licensing of masters

of coasting steamert-;.,
Mr.,lllAcivEit complained of a want of s.

on the Pill;ington, Bank. The. C
accident there, and, several boats belonging to birn

im141.4 had met with an
1 *tar,

rowly escaped shipwreck on that bank, owing: to the'ra

changes tha

a iireekly inapeetio
Mr. Sifil,in said the Pilotage Comm
pared to enter on, tho 'responsibility which would: devolv
upon them if they acceded: to ,the recommendation bf the
, , Board of Trade, .to license masters and mates, of,steamers,
As the, Board of.Trade.had- pOwor to do this thcms

aid not: feel

'carry it out. -
Mr. G-RIVES said, since the passing.of the Merchants' 'Ship-
ping Act, licenses had beengranted by the board to captains and
mates, and he never heard. of any being withdrawn. 'To; with,
hold these licenses.on the•assumption that captains and :mates
were more liable -to misconduct than the pilots, who held
licenses, 'would be a mistake. At all events, it was in the
power of the committee • to- withdraw the: license from 'any
'persbn guilty of misconduct. He did not think the Pilo&
COMMittee

ng any

'carrying out
What -th

act __empowered t

.Beni, to do. Th't

committee might ma

he examination as severe as,oOssibl

before.the license wns granted,.so(that no,one wonld-receivc
a license that did,notslinow every sAiere and curve and inove•
ninntx a the tide in the liort. He wanlii a.al th. 4„

consider, before .thqr,' :plunged into. a voaitiOn which Would
lead to a great 'deal ofunpleasantuess.with,the Board of Trade.
He could not see ithat,, much, good ~would come of .leavino•
the matter with the

Le, as he, conic

. _
the examinations, ,which would .be.. conducted under tl
Board of Trade, would bn. much better conducted ,und
their ,own-examiners. The .question was, would they thro

mates' of ,coasthw • steamers, or endeavour, by .aomer little
compromise, to carry out the views ,of both parties ? Ile
thought a deputation on the subject might -lead to good

residii,

7-111 r. 'Limo thought' a matter, of • this importa
beset out in the, •notihA ile.

dhould

therefor

members to -tame ta a propel...decision after, investigatio.
Mr; 'MichrEir said there;,was .a great mistake As to. the
'ability orlicensed pilot's . - -
as well qualified to perform the duties: =A pilot. was put on
board to pilot a vesseloutior in between sunrise and stmset ;
but the masters and mates. of the pasting steamers came in
• :and Wont..out at all heurs.of. the.day,ated night,.and many
:of: these men were from ten to twenty years on the different
Hinds. Ho thought. it was ,not= desirable to allow the thin
.And-of the wedge -of- the Board of: -Trade to be inserted in
this matter. There ' was. no- responsibility on the Pilots
Committee, and they could, get proper examiners. ,
;Mr: TOBIN. Sdid this was, a matter entitled to the. greatest
consideration, land he ;thought they should Certainly not
come to a decision upon it till that day, week. As to whe.
them the. Government :were:right in determining that that
hoard, should grant licenses. to
_masters, and mates, he would
not'now enquire; bat the Coverntnent had determined that
the power of granting such licenses should be vested in that
board; and the spirit afthelegislature they should fairly carry
:oat; and they ought not, without great- reasons, to introduce
.anew body of,examiners conneeted,with the port. He did
not see any great responsibility in carrying out that which
:,the legislature had intended they should carry out.
MoNoiL said, as 'a -member of the examining: com-
i ni,.u.ee of pilots, he considered it a very heavy responsibility
to:grant a license to a pilot for twelve months, over whom
they-had no control.. No,matter how intelligent ho might
be, if they had no security for. his conduct, ,he might be,
unfitted, by carelessness or drunkenness, to take charge of
a. vessel while tb:ai vessel was full of passengers, and thus
• endanger theii• lives.
Thesp2oject,
of the was deferred for a week; and the proceedings
committee, with this exception, were confirmed.
NEGOCIATIONS WITH THE TIMBER TRADE.
Mr. Ilusunix brought on the motion of which he had
given notice on the previous week, " That this board having
emsidered the correspondence with the tinther.trade, and the
agreements entered into with the represen.tati.yes of that
body, now printed; copies of -which have been sent .to each
member, are of opinion that the timber trade is not entitled
to any pecuniary concession in Ake terms of their leases,
already agreed to by them? arui confirmed by this board,"

The masters and mates were quite