Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-08-03 00:00:00

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STEAM COMMUNICATION BETWEEN LIVERPOOL AND
GLASGOW.
Unless prevented by any unforeseen occurrence, the under-noted
or °Vey steamer, are Intended to rail (with or without Pilots).
between Liverpool and Wasps, with goods and paesergers, an
under:—
rtia,
eut
PANTHER (new steamer)......Capt. El ARDII
a% LEOPARD (now building) ....Capt. MAIN
FROM CLARENCE DOCK.,

August
PANTHER ...... Thursday .... 6 ....at *2 c..`ternoon'
PANTHER .. Tuesday ...... 11 ....at 2 afternoon
PANTHER. Saturday.... 15 at 6 eventing-
PANTHER ....Thursday'.... 20 ....at *2 afternoon
PANTHER ...... Tuesday ...... 25 .... at 1 afternoon.
PANTHER .......... Saturday...... 29 ....at 4 afternoon
.

From Clarence Fierhead on days marked thus *
Goods for shipment on days marked *must be alongsidetho
vessel three hours, and on other days one hour before appointed
sailing time.
Freight for btx andbale goeds,2os perton of 20 cwt. Goods
from Manchester and the manufacturing dlstricts, when consigned
(including Steward's Fee), 15s;
to the care of the Company's Agents. sag per ton. Peens—Cabin.
Steerage, 6s. Servants in Cabin,
full fare.
Apply to GEORGE & JAMES BURNS, 9 ,Euchanan-street;
Glasgow, ALEX. M'CULLOCH , Excise-buildings, Greenock.
WALKEII,77s, Market-street, Manchester :or here to
C. MAC IVER & CO., 18, Water-street.

Exclusively for CLOTHING BOYS from 6 to 20 Year=.,
LEWIS & COMPANY, Rani:Ugh street.

LIVERPOOL FINANCIAL REFORM ASSOCIATION.

Amongst the new subscribers announced at the last
-wEekly meeting of the couseil were Sir Joseph Paxton,
M.P., and Messrs. Gi;bcrt, of Birmingham. Amongst the
corrennaence read was a letter from Mr. E. B. N(111,
Lchdon, secreta-y to the ?elgian " International Associa-
tion for Customs' Ref,ina," urging subscriptions towarls
defraying the expense of publishing papers laid before the
late Free Trade Congress at BrusselF.

TUB BrD3O:.'S BAY C MPANY.

Applicationt for extra copies of the lit!son's Bay Tract
were complied with. There was con,Cerible discussion
on the monstrous nature of the company's monopoly, and
its prejudicial (lice's. Great surprise was expressed at
the condeue.d apathy of parliament and the pubdc--more
particularly that of Chambers' of Commerce ar,d fte manu-
facturing towns—rn a queOtion so vitally important to
comtreree ant manufactures, to colonisation, and to the
count ot generally. ft was reported that the attempt of
the council to get the Liverpoel Chamber to move, either
by way of tog tuition to the Mayer for n towife meeting
or otheraiso, was apporently a failuto. That copies of the
tract had been sent to the chairmea of Chambers' of Com,
meree in other towns, and to all Vas leading newspapers in
London and the provinces, as vrell as to aboot 2,%'0' selected
men:hers of both houses of parliament, including the whole
other Majesty's 'ministers ; bat'that none of thelChambers'
oT Commerce, exe-p'ing that of Newcastle-apoc-Tvne,
t=eemed to take any interest in the matter, -whilst very few
of the newspapers appeared to deem the question worth
'discussing in their columns. Amengst. the exceptions
were the London Standard, and the Star, the Liverpool,
Albion, 'the NoRTEILIN TIMES, the. fweL Areml;ltde
Journa:, and !ha Bolter/Up-ankle. FICYII an article in the
latter, entitled "The Great Anglo-Saxer:a Desert," the fellow-
ing extract was read :—" A committee of inquiry is now
sitting, about whose 'proceedings no tme in this unntry
seems to know or care anything. unless we except the
Liverpool Finanial Reform A-ssociation, which has
ly publsshed a pamphlet on the subjoet, which we
fecomrnead everyone to road and re-read. It would not
bc-easy to lay eat sixpence to more -advatatage. Nor can
Ole point out any rea'l:ec nietteed of formirtg some acqttaint-
2ECe with a sif,-Ject which it is impessible to do justice to
"!:" ithio the direits of an. article." The fact that twoauela
-mites for Empires Fs the E tst 'lndies and British North
'America, both of immense extent, and resources all but
-b)uadless,--If properly derelorkl, should be handed over
'to bodies of private individuals, of both cf whidh the
main object, and as regards thaHurbon's Bty Company the
exclusive one, is to provide 'a certain dividend far the
holders Of'stoek, was mentioned as an instance of national,
folly and infatuation withoirt a parallel in the 'history of
the world. In both cases are company are the exclosive
proprietors of the soil.; both have set their facesoesolutely.
ag'ainSte all attempts at.settlement, colonisation, and cona
Inerce; and in both, all that is required to secure the
welfare and progress of the eotantry is good government,
and the sele of land at moderate prices, and on 'fair terms,
in lien of those toosotonancical and robber-like restriction,,
penalities, anti obligations, which, in the Hudson's Bay
'territories, rimier settlers most literally slaves of the son
atte. to the company, only free from an application of-the
lath or the knout, now and then, because the compatry
Ales not a rink.,proper to wield it, although the pretended
charter pi orces tile persons as well as the property of
'British sn laiiectseatirely at its mercy. In India the object has
teen to er .reel the greatest possablo revenue from the native
cultivato is of 'the soil ; in British North America the great
stt-tria of t' ao 'Racism's Bay Comparl7., for nearly a couple of
~centnri( is, has 'been, and still is. to preserve the immense
,regions.whichlthey have usurped, in virtue of their pretended
ehartr ,G or .which have been conferred upon them by royal
iicens.e, hardly less iniquitous though more legal, as nearly
as p oasible in a state of nature, for the sake of a coo-
temt allele 'trade in skins and furs. producing what is, no
.doti. 17-, a splendid revenue for the handful of shareh )Iders.
t-tho ieh secretly a farthing in the pound compared with
`-wh at John 'Ball would ci+ke of the country, it' it were
--fairly thrown open to his slifl and enterprise. The
tootolts, in both instances, were of the most lamenta le
' mature, 'hat only such as might have been anticipated with
certainty. India was in a state of rebellion—unquestion-
- ably the consequence of misgovernment and extortion ;
and vastly the greater portion of British North Americi,
exceeding the whole of Europe in extent, of which some
- seventy degrees 'of longitude and nearly three of latitude,
are further south than any portion of Great Britian, is
pretty nearly-in the same condition in which it was in
the days of King C:arles IL, the only exceptiou
being the one oppressed and disaffected colony on the
banks of the Red River. The establishment of flourishing
and populous. cioas, ports. and settlements in neighbouring
districts of the United States, which were desert within the
the last thirty -ears, was contrasted with the stationary
and desol:ve, condition of the territories under the Urals
shade of the eerapant's menoply. The encroachments
already effected, and those in contemption, by the Ameri-
cans, were referred to, as likely to 'ea I to further disputes
between the, two countries, only to re arranged 1-3 the
cession of valuable territoriA to the nails a which is
disposed to put them to profitable uses. It was observed
that the Americana-were • clearly right in not submitting
to the dog-in the-manger like policy of the Hudson's Bay
Company, though it was thought nothing less than
marvellous, that, whilst England is thus robbed of
territories which would have afforded homes to

the hundreds of thoasands of her sons who have emigrated
to the United States, possibly to become her enemies, and
to many mill'ons more, Englishmen, both in and out of
parliament, should btiso apathetic, and their government
apparently in league with the monopolists, It was stated,
on apparently good authoriry, that the real shareholders
in the Hudson's Bay Comaany do not, probably, exceed
nine in number, and that of these the End of Selkirk holds
two-thirds of the shares ; though there are others—com-
manders of forts for example—who share in the profits of
the various hunting establishments, and call themselves,
though they really are not, partners. It was considered
important that the names of the fortunate and high's,-
favoured shareholders should he male known ; awl it
was egret! that Mr. Swart should be requested to procure
them, for the information of the public. The certainty
that the pretended chartered rights of the company will he
undisturbed, and its exclusive license, which expires in
1859, renewed for a further term by the government,
without troubling parliament any fuller about the matter,
unless there should be some strong manifestation of public
opinion, of which there seems little prospect, was admitted
-anal deplored; but it was felt that, whilst the nation
remains resolutely blind to its own true interests, and the
monopolists are leagued with men in high places, the
ceased would only be spending money to no purpose by
any further efforts. People and parliament seem to
acquiesce in the consummation of the mischief, and th y
will repot it at their leisure, blaming their rulers then
for disastrous consequences of which they might now
,extiegniela the cause. A pamphlet on the subject of the
.7gudson's.av Company and its territories was offered for
pabliciation, but on terms to which the council could not
accede. ilt showed the various rotates by rail, river, and
canal, to the country, which it has suited the company's
porpoies to represent as all but inaccessible ; the
great fertility and other natural advantages ' of
:lands which it describes as barren and uninhabitable
wastes ; and the grossly tyrannical conditions
for the holdieg ,of land, which render the inhabitants
of the Red River Settlement, the one, single, pining
colony permitted throughout the whole range of the
company's dominions, little bettr than slaves to the soil
and the company'; privileges, and only not stahjsc ed to
the lash because the company has not thought proper to
exercise to the full efent, the powers conferred upon it
by its precious charter. In order to boar out its repre-
sontatiena of inaccessibility, the company has chosen to do
all its own tref.fih, and travelling through the frozen waters
of godson's Bay, fancying, no doubt, with ostrich-like
simplicity, that all the rest of the world will conehaue to
teep its eyes elesed, as it has hitherto done, to all that
the company doei not wish to be seen. It was observed
that, either is reset culpable collusion, or in the grossest
-igno:ance of easier and safer modsa of access, the War
Department has jest given countenance to these m's-
representations by sending troops from Montreal to the
Red Rieer Settlement by the company's favourite route of
_Hudson's Bay—a rowel about of some 3,00 e miles,
-attended with great delay, much addiiional expense, and
no little danger to the men. Theheritcr also referred to the
company's supposed truckling with Russia, which prevented
:the seizure of Russian America, or so much of it, at least,
as would have served to rectify the sea-coast boundary,
haring the date war, and also to the large sums voted by
the American Congress to the Hudson's Bay Company,
(no doubt in conformity with previous bargaining) after
the cession of Oregon to the United States, and the settle-
ment of !he American boundary at the 49,h degree of
latitude, suggesting that the question, whether this money
does cot belong to the crown rather thau to the company,
is one well worthy the eensicleration othparlisment. He
lihewise eoetrasted the groat and rapid progress mate by
American Battlements in the vacinity, and on much of
what was very lately British territory, with the state of
hopeless desolation prevailing in the company's dominions
and to he maintained for ever, if the British people, the
Canadians, and the Amerwans (who have rightly
determined that they, too, will have a voice in the matter)
wilt permit the Hinhion's Bay Company still to stop the
way.

THE " NATIONAL STEWARDS" AND THE GOVERNMENT.
The p-cceedings of the Commons in Supply dun,, the
week and during the session were commented on, as ;bow-
ing that the new parliament is even more improvident and
compLisant than PS predecessor ; and as proving more
strongly than ever the nlcessity of a rigid revision of both
estimate; and expenditure by a standing Finance Com-
mittee. 45 ;o the existence of any real check on either,

under the present system, it was observed that there would
be a great saving of time, trouble, and expense, and also
quite as much security, if ministers—instead of submitting
detailed estimates of the different branches of expenditure,
and getting them voted serieim, each. particular sum for
a specified sp-nrpcse, spider regulations which are notoriously
disregarded by all concerned in the spending of the mr.ney—
were to address the Commons frankly thus :—" Gentle-
men, we want seventy millions for the year's expenditure,
or, jest to give us something like a decent margin, say
seventy-two. Just vote it in the lump, and you may rely
on our spending it to the greatest advantage, and with the
utmost possible regard to economy, If we should want
more, we'll spend it, in order to save time and trouble, and
}test possible refesil ; but you may depend on seeing the
bill, and asking any questions you like about it. We
will present the accounts to you some time after the close
of next session, when you shall have voted us the same, or
a greater sum ; and you shall have the accounts audited
in such a manner as we shall deem quite sufficient, some
two, three., five, or ten years hence, as the case may be."
The fact mentioned by Mr. W. Williams, that the miscel-
laneous estimates, comprising 4S votes, amounting to
4'634,000, and involving an increase of £301,000, were
only placed in the hands of members an hour or so before
they were required 'to vote them, might be referred te, as
showingThet it is hardly possible to burlesque the system
on which the financial business of the country is transected
by the House of Commons.
THE NATIONAL G ALL/CRY.
The disenssion on the alleged intention of government,
as soon as 'tai lament has risen, to remove the -National
Gallery fro'. London to Kensington Gore, in spite ,of an
adverse derisien of the House of Commons, and, also
of the report of a Royal Commission, snlesrqnently
appointed for the purpose of reversing that de_
vision, was another specimen of the high hanthd
manner in which Government acts at its own pleasure,
without 'Check nowadays. The Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer, knowing no ben er, asserted flatly, in the first
instance,-that the Commissioners had presented no report;
finding that he was mistaken, he said he had net seen the
report; and that as soon as he knew its contents, he would
let the House know what Government intended to do.
Lord'Pahnerston's evasion of the question, as to the esn-
templated removal, by saying that a new National
Gallery would not be built without the sanction of the
Horne, was regarded as more charac'eristic than satiefac-
tory ; and the simplicity of Mr. Lvgon in asking who was
the mysterious personage by whose advice everything was
being removed to Kensington, occasioned some amusement.
Tilt KM:BE I' MERTES •BOARD.
The re-appearance of the vote for that grecs job,
- the Scotch Fisheries' Board, and its acceptance, on
the assurance of Mr. Wilson, now repeated for the third
time annually, that it shall not be proposed again in the
sine shape, was mentioned as another proof of the nasal
ductibility of the House of Commens.
IR Itt'SPONSIB LE CJLICTY EXPFNDITURB.
It was observed that, as regards the establishment of
County Financial Boards —a much needed measure of
reform—Lord Palmerston seems to have got beyond the
stereotyped excuse wait till next session." The subject
is, be says, involved in such difficulties, that he would not
be justified in holding out any hope that Ministers will be
prepared to take it in hand next year ; and yet the question
simply is, whether the county Magistrates shall continue
to enj ay the privilege of laying out some eight or ten
millions annually, without the slightest control on the
part of the ratepayers or anybody else, either as to the
levying or expenditure thereof.
ANOTIL ECR CLURII FOR PUBLIC 310NEY.
The probability of another enormous building job.
which, i❑ point of expense, may throw even the " new"
Houses of Parliament into the shade, was the subject of
+emark. It was considered very ominous of what is
intended, that the first prize of £5OO has been awarded to
a plan the execution of which will cos' from £12,000,000 to
£14,000,000 sterling. Oa this subject, 'he Council concurred
entirely in the apprehension of Mr. W. E. Gladstone, that
little by little, and inch by inch, the House will he drawn
ulaw: res into a project which, as regards the real require-
ments of the public service, is, financia7ly, one of tie most
astounding and incredible schemes ever presented to a
civilised country ; and also, than no attempt whatever
ought to be made to commit the representatives of the
people, c ivertly and unadvisedly, to a project which so
materially concerns the public interest, their duty to their
constituents, and their own reputation for common sense ;
but whether such considerations will have any effect what-
ever, either on the supposed intentions of Government, or
on the contented slumbers of the imaginary guardians
of the public purse, was felt to be quite another ques-
tion.

NATIONAL EXTRAVAGANCE AND PUBLIC CRIME.

An article in the Times, reviewing Vex pamphlet of a
Dr. Farr, was referred to as symptomatic of some project
for increasing official salaries. The doctor demonstrates
mathematically, to the satisfaction of the Times, and, no
doubt, to that of the persons more immediately concerned,
that the ministers of the Crown are very inadequately paid
for their services, seeing that, whilst the incomes of leading
professional and mercantile men range from £5,000 to
£20,000 per annum, the pay of ministers does not get
beyond from £2,000 to £5,000, the conclusion being that
ministers ought to be placed on a par with professional and
mercantile men. Against this conclusion the Council
demurred, holding the ministerial salaries to be amply
sufficient for the services rendered. It was contended that
great expenditure in high places was the cause of great
crime ; that the seale of public living being high, everybody
became cxttavagant, living beyrn I his means, and trying
to keep up the false glitter which public extravagance oe-
caeioned. The member wholtook this view said that, if he
were demoniacally inclined, all he should desire would be
to see the civil list doubled in amount, the official salaries
doubled, and all expenses doubled, for then the crime
of the country would soon he doubled also. Public extra-
vagance established an inflated style of living; people
exceeded their means, and then, to fend off the evil day,
committed theft, trend, or forgery. Thus they saw people
of small means setting up their equipages and running
into all sorts of expenses, it being quite common now-a-d tys
for people to spend as much on the dressing of their families
as would have sufficed to defray the whole household
expenditure of their grandfathers. He held that much, if
not all, of this mischief was engendered by a lavish expen-
diture of the public money. He illustrated the folly of
public extravagance thus—scarlet cloth with a narrow
trimming of gold lace would make as handsome a coat as
need be seen; but the plan was to hide the cloth altogether
by covering it with gold. Another member referred to
the gorgeous splendour of the court, and the cauliiplicity
of royal attendants, as suitable enough for barbaric days
but quite out of place now, and altogether unnecessary for
the maintenance of the true honour and dignity of the
crown, which were bast secured by the exemplary character
and excAlent qualities of the wearer.

THE BAD MANNERS OF YOUNG BULL.

" When mill the Americana learn maulers ?"—Llndon

Times,

There is a good deal of egeificance in national nick_
names; they are the natural product of national manners;
and, if their appropriateness were not acknowledged, they
could not be popularly used. Every one feels the force of
Johnny Crapaud, as applied to the universal French nation,
though it would be easy enough to prove the injustice of
the appellation. As for John Bull, it is beyond cavil or
question. Every Englishman confesses its fitness. The
idea of civility, and good breeding could not possibly be
associated with such a name. John Bull may have a
thousand sterling and sturdy virtues, bat politeness is not
one that he can lay claim to. As the old bull bellows the
young one learns, and young John Bull shows himself a
true son of his sire. The Lontlon papers have given an
account of the behaviour of the Uuder-graduates at Oxford
on the occasion of the annual commemoration of the
founders and benefacto:s of the University, which took
place on the 24th nit, when a great number of distinguished
guests were invited to he present. The Under-graduates,
according to custom, took possession of an upper gallery in
the theatre where the Commemoration was held, and bogan
to make vociferous remarks, not only upon every person
present whose name was known to them, but on all sorts of
people ; and as the names of the persons were called out
who were complimented with degrees, they were made the
subjects of every species of rudeness, complimentary and
otherwise. Among those who were equivocally compli.
mente•l by the Under-graduates, was Mr. Dallas, our
Minister, who appears to have been regarded by these
young Bulls as n't entitled to a courtesy because he repre-
sented a Government which countenances Slavery. These
youngsters are not the people of England ; but they repre-
sent them, and being permitted to give a loose to the
impressions they have imbibed from their fathers, they
blurted out their opioions with a degree of rudenes3 and an
utter disregard of the propri_ti es of civilised society which
the rudest part of our people could not be guilty of. Bat
it was all c nasidered a good j ike, and laughed at accord-
ingly. It was thorouvhly English, hearty, obstreperous,
downright, blunt and bullish. In reporting the rude con-
duct of the young Bulls, some of the English journals
seemed to be unconscious that they had been guilty of any
impropriety ; and, taking an English view of the case, they
had not, But such conduct, on such an occasion, in any
other part of the world would be looked anon as savouring
of indecency. At Oxford it was simply jelly and English.
—New York Times.