Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-11-30 00:00:00

ciple which Mr. M. attempts thus irrationallY t°
establish, is one of the fundamental axioms Orug
Socinian School. That he belongs to that school .!1;4
scarcely a doubt remaining. In his present posl ii.
however, he cannot explain his sentiments olna.
Instead, therefore, of honestly declaring.biß4
hesion to the fundamental dogma of Socinglag
he would rather assume the appearance of orri
'at an inevitable conclusion corresponding with legli
dogma by a process of reasoning which it is dip,' brit
to believe a sound reasonin mind could 11°Ltio
perceive to be sophistical and false. I have 11y
library a copy of the works of Socinus, inoc".,„oilell
may 06
as I esteem him a heretic ; but I extract fr°93.ooei
works entitled "John Frid's Staffers Institatl36s;
Theology Palenucm Universee," Tom. 3, 1:10,011
"Da Socinianesmo," sec. 26, Socinians "T lle°ooo
sung (textum Scriptures authenticum) `
facientes judicem et normam controvertsitoi
theologiearum ; statuentes Seripturam sip° 'l3 toe
ac singulari illuminations Spiritus Sancti recto!):
salutariter intelligi passe; unde rationi in e%Ol
enda Scripture tantum tribuunt, ut dogirav't.sdo
ex plurcemurum Scripturi locorum consenc,lll cael
demonstrate, hoc pretextu repudient,
rations non consistent, hoc est, ex ejus priPooo.
demonstrari nequeant, etiam in its rebus do cl„.
constat, eas rei humani intellectus penetrLl.4l,
passe "—i. e." The Socinians weaken the 'rose
the Holy Scripture by making reason the itiffial
the,liule (let these two:words be noticed as signiiid
the distinction which exists between a JllBOl4Ol
Law, or rule) of theological controversies; ',700
it down that Scripture can be understood 0%01
and safely without the internal and extraorwthet
illumination of the Holy Spirit. WbCOC6
attribute so much to reason in expounding ScriPt247
they reject the dogmas, or established principles
clearly demonstrated by the agreement of many Yr;
of
Scripture, under the pretext that they do not agllo
reason, i.e cannot be demonstrated from the prtfeabg
reason, and this, too (eteam) in those things eo
which it is certain that they cannot be comprehttoe
the force of human intellect." This, then, is the •":„ogil
ledged axiom of the Socinian school. - In st°,o
there is no illogical attempt to conclude thstut r-
d
reason is the (index) that, therefore, it is neeg—t)ii
the rule of faith (norma.) This sophionlgo
absurdity, was left to be uttered by Mr. A.Te°l?s,-tbi
I have taken pains to identify Mr. M.
Socinian school, and to draw him out frc"-800
obscurity under which he endeavours to ePoilig
himself from the consequence of openly oc°
his sentiments. I have a right to know ttirpit
opinions on those points, closely conneetelle
the chief subject of discussion, the infalliblitrt
Scripture. If Mr. M. were at once to deolarcite
self a Socinian, this would conclude the Oat:fill°
once with me, and very possibly with sore° -000
present adherents. They would not then ba
neY
posedly surveying (faceles descensus due 00,1
dangerous principles of concealed Socinisoiiie
they would start back in horror when the gulfos,o
of that infidel heresy was disclosed to be 8,,° to
Mr. M would then be plainly discovered 001
luring them to their ruin rather than leading
on to the enjoyment of a millenium of uniallade
intellectual freedom, elevation and bliss.
The Rationalist school are accustomed to
this mirage before the eyes of their deluded Pof
O:
era. It is the promise of Satan to Eve 0,11(
" Ye shall be as Gods, knowing good and
I am, sir, your most obedient servant. 010.
J. K. Gr.a.zEpo-
Lower Darwen, Nov. 25th, 1857.

TO THE EDITOR OP THE NORTHERN TIAINS•
Sir,—Either Mr. M does not know the 02;1100
rules of the art of criticism, or he does not 4000
to observe them. Is there no difference h.,8" ise
comparing expressions and comparing niw'.,,
Is Logomochy identical with Interpretatio•
0100
not Mr. M unfairly take "Logomochy en Viptiol
partem," in a bad sense, but to signify colt%
about expressions. In my letter of the L',.te let
have said that the expressions quoted by '",;/ the
the purpose of rendering " the meaning sithe
expression, " Thy Word" doubtful, are not tbg
same. Mr. M. then here dexterously It"„ 1 thee
especial point in dispute, and substitutes srecl',
a very common artifice of the Socinian 'oots'
and too well known by the initiated, tn;od tb.
with them, how much soever it may 0318.-
generous public. A A Of ad,
objected in my letter to the artifice 000.
(lacing unlike expressions, in order to er,e4,4, as °,
fusion and uncertainty. I complained of ti'os 0
disengenuous tick-4 renew my coraPl9.lted
the same dishonourable practice being rer
Mr. M's letter. When I remarked lore
expression expression " Thy Word," is specifically u.oo'
from the expression " the word," I did net say the
meanings are not the same, for I contenuoogiog
are, and it, is part of my case that the exPr„elogt
" Thy Word," signifies, in scriptural phrassi,ioP
" The Word of God." It was the "thirtiovo
criticism" of fraudulently substituting °,4 spa
-
pression for the other, to which I deraurre!kottlt
do yet demur. And Mr. M.'a last letter *i
convincing proof that I was right in wattle
theological conjuror very closely. It vents VlO
a pitfall in reserve to catch unwary travellers. one
esteemed friend, Professor Williams, had di.tlßool
for him-deep, and large, and dangerous--tn'oc
many years. Had I not a rooted dieti-fesr,
Sociniane, the result, alas, of • come
thoughts, I might have tumbled headlong be
it, but I have escaped, and Mr. -NL 010 e
unfortunately fallen into his dear friends Of
and pitfal. No where, says Mr. Williams, Lode
Scripture, is the term " Word of God "
equivalent or synonym for the Bible: I'o l's;
us keep in mind that the question betiveelogpi
M. and Mr. G., is a question of ,4 TeratOo P°
and, therefore, Mr. Williams's remark ti°,ent,
make against me, but is so much wore! ".1
Macnaught. The expression on whiemeo 13_4'
in
depending, is " Thy Word," and this "', ten,
labour under the same disadvantages as t.e,„,"
" Word of God "is said to do, for the x-oigel'
unquestionably eniploys this expression to
the " Scriptures " of his day. The terra id
Word," then, having been once ernils 11,6,
an inspired writer to. signify the aggr4Y., RV'
Writings, by parity of reasoning, we 0211/ 13ib;
mately use them as a synonym for " Th°olllso,
So much for the pitfal provided by g.„fts
into which I have not fallen, and 19' 1
t Mr. M. complains of my two columns, u" critifee
much more reason to complain that,ioll,lll
unfairness and blundering should have °„ieS " t
so much trouble. Newspaper contrever-i ape
not allow of delays and prolongations,
eat
therefore, be brief to-day. ot of
In conclusion, I must plainly deeia--„bare„ Co
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with truth (unmixed truth) recal nir-eisa"
blasphemy, but will prove it, or my en,n3P-
the traitor, but I would beg W..' ia .iOO
understand that I wish to take his va'socill-tir
abstract. as a synonym for certain oder-0$
opinions and mistakes, and that I shall •ed ohe
to keep this abstract idea in my 11111r' tit,oll,
clothed with humanity, somewhat siei"-ig, &on
abstract notion of a Lord Mayor withent"bysip
robes, and chain, which a practised raet'Poiblf
of transcendental principles, might P,,tieotß•
himself able to form with unclouded a'B
000%.
—I am, sir, yours, obedient,
J. K. Gozs
Lower Darwen, Nov. 27th, 1857.

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TO TEE EDITOR OF THE NORTIIEIV TigEl;6oll3 be
Sir,-Having waited long. to see an tl,,bio t"
your valuable paper about the needless tr", 01
Duty Clerk" at the Custom-house eausebtit°,.
oned who pays him in gold, I have now th that 501;
nty to bring the case before the public, itrot,',o
thing may be done to save time and tutteavereig`r;
h Whenever any one „Gives that gentleman s°ll. evce-t,
calculate
aelwentries, l
ia,weighs,refuse
tat
sfirsteh have
vceceaecpahtuiotnyfg them, and
va nodlgt
Personas ig.,, estooi rc
it
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he
illmay be of full weight, and ,cho pays
gocbuatce the amount required before 0136031 tiPv-0
House; many do not take mere na°l3bligciAJ
0- 5.,
necessary, and must, therefore, be nften era r
more sensaibnlde
sovereigns, either at their offices die tile
ptlbar:eiard to exellang° t aai (10.
or a yvit .
A Syr

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