Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-10-20 00:00:00

and Heap's sugar houses, Lancashire and Yorkshire Railway Com-
pany. and Great Howard street, are, or can all be supplied direct
from the fire mains, by arranging the valves.

Wave-tree, Woolten, and West Derby, ca-i be snppliel from
Winthor Sta ion,

tiverton from Aniley stre.t or Deyon3liire place, Bootle and
Vir.titt,n from B,,cttle Station, Aigburth a3tl Higu PArk from Park
Station or re:eryeir.

Thera i, only tie 36in main from Grenn lane to Kennington
reservoir for be-h P;ke and well water to ms 3 through. but th s
might be got over by join ng the two largi, engnes to the 24in main
wh eh runs from Green lane to Andley street reservoir, and allowed
to pass through gin main from Auit!ey street to Present road by w
Hill, aid also through Nifoaa street 7in main to London road, or by
hying an ISin main from Audiey street to Pre.cot road.

The ?lin main in Edge lino runs from Pre-cot roicl, Old Swan, to
Windsor station.

The er, s stree's down town are pr:ncipally commanded by five
branehea from the dra maine, toy, and bott.m.

The sewer branches are all prin?..pally from the fire main,.

The bre xerys are principaly all supplied from the service mains,
but in many ea es a cm.ili main or lead pipe would supply them.
Ashton street and St. Andrew's street have also fire mains, and
the Royal Infirmary and Pig Market are s ipplial by them.
Pembroke place fire mains and two services.

Clarence street main and services not a7tered.
Part of Monnt Pleasant main and services not altered.
Windsor tree'. 15in main, whi,.ll runs from Parlismert street to
High Park re,eivoir.
Clement street 11in m,in from Vauxhall road to Great Howard
street, not finished.

Mount street min and Eer v i :es.
Great Oxford street main and service.
Elizabeth street 121 n ma'n and service.

Fa'k, er street ma'n end se vice.
Parr street, Gradwell street fire main and services.
The manufa tories are pri• cipL ly snnpli:d from tho service m tin,
but in many striAts might be joined to ttie fire main.

A few levlin-; mains woo'd bt necessary to take the service mains
from the (Ire mains, ,shich ars joined at certain points.

If that document were correct, he thought there was no
difficulty whatever in having the public supplied with the
two kinds of water, so far, at lea t, as the pipes would
permit of their being used for the purpose, and if that
were so, he th ought the Water Committee had not carried
out the spirit, although they might have carried out the
letter, of the resolution passed by the Council. It was
possible that by the present piping every tenement of the
whole town could not be supplied with both the waters,
but the memorandum from which he had quoted
showed thas the majority of the streets—all the leading
thoroughfares—had two lines of pipes at least. Even if
every tenement we-e to be supplied, the cost, he contended,
would not, be what had been stated in the Council, and
which appeared to have alarmed everybody—something
like a quarter of a million. He thought the Council ought
to have a detaile 1 tea ement from the Water Committee of
the streets wh ch had a duplica e line of pipes, and how far
the duplicate line of pipes might be made available to the
repuirements ot rhe tenantry of the houses, if they felt dis-
posed to avail of them. The Chairman of the Water Com-
mittee himself had admitted as much whEn he used the
words that the public had a right to expect at the hands of
the Water Committee a supply which would be satisfactory
to them, either by a double row of ma ns or by a different
arrangement of he present mains. What was to be un-
ders ood by a differeht arrangement of the present mains?
If there were not two lines of pipes at p esent in some of
the streete,at least there could be no different arrangement
to give a supply of the two waters. It was only on the
surmise that there were two lines of pipes in the streets
that the public could be supplied with the two kinds of
w „ter. In answer to the question why this was not done,
the chairman of the Water Committee had replied that it
was because they were compelled, by act of parliament, to
keep up a constant supply lest, in case of a fire. there
snou'd be any deficiency of water. When he was further
asked the question, whether this requirement had been
hitherto complied with, he replied that it was not to be
expected the chairman of the Water Committee, or the
members, should know what pipes were full or what were
not. Now, he did not wish to say one word disparaging to
the committee, bit he did think that answer was not such
an answer as the Council had a right to expect. He
thought if it was because of the act of parliament contain-
ing such an imperative requirement that the consumers of
the water would not have their desires complied with, the
Council had, su-ely a right to know whether the act of
parliament had been complied with. He did not believe
that it had been. He did not desire to advocate there
that an act of parliament should be stmlously evaded ;
bat when the Council were told that the requirements of
the inhabitants could not be complied with, because
of a stringent clause in the act of parliament, they
had a right to know whether that clause had been con-
formed to or not, and they had a right to infer from the
answer of the chairman of the committee, that it had not
been complied with. There cou'd be no doubt, that if it
had been, the chairman would have answered the question
without any hesitation. Mr. Jeffery concluded by moving
as an amendment h—" That Ihe r solutions of the com-
mittee be not confirmed, but that the Council be informed
in dsta 1 through what streets duplicate or more lines of
mains are now laid down, and the connection with other
mains, and the sources of supply ; and chewing also those
districts of the borough in which there is now only one of
these mains, end the mileage of mains in each case "
Mr. Srrre seconded the amendment, reserving what
rem -rke he had to make to a further stage of the debate
Mr. Alderman BENNETT suggrated that the samples of
water taken from the diffieren; potions of the works, and
which were in the adjoining room, should be brought into
the Council Chamber. They consisted of eight r ten
bottles of water, and sho wed the state of the water in the
month of last August, and also early in October. The
Council could then judge whether it was poe ible toimprove
the water, an could argue more correctly from observatirn
than from the mere statement of any gentleman. He
begged to move that the samples be brought in.
Mr. W. P. JEFFREYS seconded the motion.
Mr. W EARL% hoped they would bring their " jelly" in
too. (Laugh- er.)
The MAYOR observed that it would be more convenient
for gentlemen to go into the adjoining room and inspect
the samples there, than have them brought into the
Chamber.
The TOWN CLERK decided that the motion cou'd not be
put, another motion being already before the Counc:l.
Mr. HoeNne asked if the eNct of Mr. Jeffrey's amend-
ment would be to suspend the operations that were now
taking Hue for filtering the water ?
The Tows( CLERK replied that it would have that effect
Me Hoowns said, that he had no objection to the return
asked for by Mr. Jeffery, but at the same time he should
support the resolutions and proceadirgs of the We er
Committee. Mr. Jeffery would lead them to suppose that
he was the only party who was anxious to give the people
of the town a supply of pare spring water. So far from
that being the case, it was the anxious wish of the Water
Committee for the last two months to supply the largest
possible supply of spring water, and for that purpose they
had met several times. He himself moved a resolution in
the cornmitte some time ago, requesting that all the spring
water drawn from the wells should be given entire to the
inhabitants, and that at one of the reservoirs at Kensington,
which was attached to the second reservoir by pipes, there
should be placed a plug and stop-cock ; and thus, while
one was used for the supply of spring water to the
innati-ante, the other might be kept full of Rivington
water in case of fire, and used for no other purpose. The
committee were most anxious to adopt that course, but Mr.
Duncan, who was present, told them that it was altogether
impracticable. Upon hat information the ccmmittee based
the resolutions now submitted to the Council, and in which
they declared, on the authority of Mr. Duncan. that it was
impossible to give a supply of spring water in that way.
He agreed with Mr. Jeffery that it was desirable they
should have the supply, and he believed that, with a little
management and ingenuity, it could be done. (Pear, hear.)
His anxiety was that it shosld be done, and it was
also the anxiety of every member of the committee. (Hear,
hear) It should nut go out of doors that the Water
committee were indifferent to the interests of the inhabi•
tents, and that there were only two gentlemen in the
Council who had consideration for the health and comfort
of the town. When Mr. Duncan declared that it was
imp-act cable to give the spring water in the way the
committee desired i , the question then arose, what other
course were they to adopt? Upon inquiry and examination,
they found that two courses presented themselves - either
to discolourize the water by a process of re-eltration at
Rivington or at home, or if their financial position allowed
it to lay down a second line of pipes. Mr, Duncan reported
that he was able, by filtration, to make the water bright '
and pure Mr. Ha wksley also attonded the committee,
and satisfied their minds that by re-filtration, he could in
a great measure make the water clear and pleasant. They
had new the water before them, as fietered by Mr. Duncan,
and if all the water could be produced of that quality, at a
cheap expense, by charcoal filtration, they ware bland, as
ressoneb'e men, to try that. course. (Hear, hear.) There
could be no d oubt that Mr. Spencer's report was a very
talented one, and that he was a gentlemen well verged on
questions of water. He was employed by government
r.• the purpose of examining waters of large
towns as to their qualities of goodness or badness, and
he, who was a man of authority on the question, toll them
that the Riving-on could be dieceulorised. If that could
be done, and he had not the slightest reason to doubt it,
the Council were bound, before they went to the expense
a double line of pipes, to adopt every means in their
power to discolourise the water, because, as its healthiness
could not be que,tioned, its colour alone could be ob•
jetted to.
Mr. Alderman PARKER observed that two months age,
Mr. Hodson held very different opinions and expressed
them in the Council. he works were commenced in 1848,
and it was only two months ago that this new light, as to
the objectionable character of the water, broke on the