Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-09-08 00:00:00

commercial office in the town, and the testimonials they mr. BEL...Kw/TN gave notice that be would propose, at Mr. JEFFERY was sorry that members of the council
received with him were of the highest character.. As the next meeting, the name of a gentleman to fill up the bad taken such low ground as that of a monetary one.
regarded Mr. Thompson, he had been an inspector of vacancy in the conunittee occurring by the death of Mr. He thought it was the duty of the council to see that
the Tolice-force for many years. Ile bore a veryligh Ryley. , • the law, within the precincts of the borough, was purely
character, and was much respected in the forte. From . WATER COMMITTEE. and properly administered, so as to command the re-
the 'inquiries made by.the committee, they were satisfied The proceedings of this committee were read.' spect of the community. Immediately it was brought
that he was well qualified to take the managemant of
the markets. The committee considered the two to beMr. HODSON, in moving their confirmation, said there into disrespect they might expect disorder ; and he w
was as
a letter on the proceedings which had. been surprised to hear the chairman of the Watch Cammittee
.the best men, and that was the reason why they made
a:dresSed. to the council, and .in
..consequencc of the oppose this matter. lie hoped the council would be
the appointment.
• absence of the Town-clerk from. toWn a reply could not unanimous in `coming to a resolution to take such steps'
1' '''.---`'-"`‘ as
that the as were necessary to ascertain 'whether these gentlemen'
_t. JOHNSON next moved the confirmation of the letter he deferred. ' tlitied to. act. '
second recommendation of the committee, to appoint It was agreed that the letter shOuld be deferred.- Am request of some of the mem'
Mr. Henry Hulme as weigher in St. James's • Market,
Mr. Alderman PARKER drew attention to the reply ed to was read by the Town-clr
'
given to the Rev. Mr. Gardener, . with reference to the ir. BENNET r thought they won'
intit
.t the placehn,
so of
Market..Alr John
For Bowesthat
sit,
situation
i n ttehde. c
committeeol le cto r a
supply of water to a drinking-fountain in Old Swan. Ayes a laughing-sto to the *
had upwards of fifty applications, which they reduced There was a trough supplied for animals•there, andthey Sake Steps. to ascertain the me'
4.0 seven. • They went through them all, and Mr. refused to allow the same luxury to the human species. 'the words were so plain und
Hillme was considered to be the most likely man. He was He moved that the matter be referred .back for -re-.: would be an act of folly.
at present .station-master to ~the Lancashire and York- consideration. , Mr. HOLME sai:. Mr. Y
hadshire a
very Railway
high. • .
.
company ,In reply to Mr. Farnworth, ' . - . . both given their opinio,-
wSiatiindlilliilmls,layhndentithee
cap,e
to The TOWN-CLERK said they had, no' power to supply not disqualify these t'
,them, and that character, lie believed, he had strictly drinking-fountains beyond the limits of the borough therefore, be such
maintained. CGembPaarancYteart
. without they were paid for—in fact; all these public thought. ..lle w'
Mr. WooDRuFF seconded:the recommendation. .drinking-fountains must be paid for. Those within been made by e
After' a few words from Mr. Ridley, in commenda= the borough were paid for by the Health Committee. ' The reSob-
lion of Mr. Hulme, whom he said he had known for The trolgh for cattle was supplied under a -compulsory seconded, v-
five years, the recommendation was confirmed. clause of the act of parliament. For th'
'THE PROPOSED WHOLESALE MARKET, AND PURCEASE Mr. BOWRING said it had been reported to him, and Sheil,
OF THE THEATRE-ROYAL, &C. . he believed' it was quite known to the public, that there Gray'
Mr. JOHNSON said he now bagged leave to move the were certain manufacturers in this town who used a Ale
confirmation of the report of the committee on the subject good deal -of water, and whose system of payment for
of a wholesale market. The great inconvenience felt, as. the water which they used had been materially altered
regarded a wholesale market, had, far a long time, been of late years. They paid now by meter ; and he was
under the consideration of the eommittee. In consequence told, and he believed, their payments under that system
of the great inconvenience which existed,, the Markets' had been increased more than - fourfold. There were
Committee had been pressed, not only by 'parties who other manufacturers who paid in the old' style, not by
bad to attend the markets as purchasers, and the public - meter. He did not see the reason why this difference
generally, but also by, the farmers who . brought . pro- should exist. It appeared to him that . considerable
duce to the market, and who, for many years, had injustice was done, and he would ask the chairman
felt the great inconvenience of the present limited of the Water Committee to answer the question whether
accommodation. The present required demands had such was the fact or not. . .
far outgrown the, size of the existing markets ; and the . Mr. Srirr sympathised with the benevolent inten-
consequence was, that the committee, having had under tions and feelings of Mr.. Parker as to the supply of
t'ieir consideration the various sites proposed . for a water to the drinking-fountains outside the borough.
wholesale market, had arrived at. the conclusion that He thought the council ought to encourage individuals
'none of them were so fitted for the purposes required as in erecting these fountains, instead of discouraging them
the site included in 'the. plan now proposed. The by unnecessary objections. . .
speaker.. then went into the details of the -go- Mr. HoosoN said the committee were merely carry-
posed site, particulars of which appeared, in our ing out the act, of ,parliament, and he would be glad,
colu-.7.us -on Tuesday, in. our report of the and he was sure other members .of the committee
proceedings of the • Markets' Committee. He then would be glad, to 'give a supply of water to these foun-
showed that from the Ist of July to the Bth of August tains gratuitously, if they had power. But water was
'the 'total number of carts which had come to the market an article. which cost them an enormous sum of money,
with 'produce was 2,665, producing a total amount, in and the legislature had wisely enactel that all parties
tolls of -1244 14s. 2d. ; and this was exclusive of produce using it should pay fairly for it. It was perfectly out
brought by the railways, which was placed. upon the of the committee's hands. If it was left in their hands,
ground, and upon which small tolls were paid. he had no doubt they would be glad to give an ample unc,
Mr. WooDaurr, in seconding the resolution, endea- supply to the whole of these fountains. With reference causes
Vollred to show that the plans proposed by the corn-, to the subject 'alluded to by• Mr. Bowling, the commit- opening a-
mittee were the best that could be provided for meeting tee had Fit an .adYertisement in. the papers, for the convenience,
the' evils which had so long been felt. • ' purpose of ' getting such a meter as would give 4tornies, and s.
Mr. Alderman PARKER opposed the recommendation, satisfaction to the manufacturers, and that a fair distri- ^il to enquire,
contending that all the accommodation that was required bution Of 'the water might be effected. It was perfectly -nort, with an,
might obtained on,the large area in front of Lime- true that -there was , a difference in the .charges, and it -;I as may be _
be. .
street. • He concluded. y moving that the recommenda- had been found that large quantities of water had been 'iso read tn,
tion be referred back to the committee. used, for which they.had 'not been justly remunerated. 11, presider.
Mr. Alderman COOPER seconded the amendment.. They were now endeavouring to get the best possible 'oon Mona,
Mr. Alderman HOLME, whilst acknowledging that meter for that purpose, which he hoped would -be satis- ,sident, in
there -might be—and that' there was—the necessity-for . factory to all parties, and which he hoped lhey would ' the s a m.
in., _ ". other
increased market accommodation for wholesale produce, , be ready to, bring into operation by the Ist of January 1 appointee o,„ _-
yet he really could not think that the gentlemen form- next . .: -, . 0,,,1rt of Pstssage, an 4 r-
ing the Markets' Committee could be serious in bringing The proceedings '•were then 'confirmed. • -- .6.ldinz 'the las
such a project before the. council, and asking 'them to
unction an outlay of upwards 0f.150,000, without. laying
•' -- -any detailed plans. ,

were qualified to. act.
At the request of some of the members,
referred to was read by the Town-clerk.
Mr. BENNET r thought they would be making them-
selves a laughing-stoCk to the town, if they were to
take 'steps to ascertain the meaning of this clause, 50
the words were so plain and clear. He considered it
would be an act of folly.
Mr. HOLME sai: Mr. Mansfield and Mr. Garnett had
both given their opinion that the word " residence" did.
not disqualify these two gentlemen, and it would net?
therefore, be such an act of folly as Mr. Bennet
thought. He was sorry to hear the remarks that ba
been made by some gentlemen.
The resolution being moved by Mr. Holme. Oa'
seconded, was then put to the vote,,when there appeared:-
For the motion—Messrs. Stitt, A!nderson, Woodruffr
Sheil, Corbally, Barton, Littledale, Steains
7
Graves; Wagstaff, Jeffery, Hodson, Farnworth, Vernon,
Aldermen--Oooper, Turner, Holme, and the Mayor.
Against it--Crosthwaite, Crellin, Shimmin, Haydoekr
Holden, Bowring, Jeffreys, Johnson, Kitchen, Clint?
Beckwith, Aikin, Robertson. Aldermen Bennett?
Dover, Parker, Gardner. -
The motion was declared carried by a majority of 19
to 17. •
Another resolution emanating from the same meeting;
of magistrates was read, stating that, in the opinion ot
the magistrates, the appointment of a river police-force
was desirable, for the prevention'of tailors and boarding'
house keepers hoarding vessels in the river, to the annoy'
ante of many people, and also in case of mutiny or nit'
der on board the vessels while in the river.
The resolution was referred to the Watch Committee;
A memorial was read from the churchwardens Iglu,
inmates of St. Barnabas's Church, asking the use 0'
some ground in the neighbourhood of the schools con-
nected with this church, for 'the children to play upon?
while it was vacant.
The memorial was referred to the Finance CO'
mittee. '

the elau,se.

• THE *COURT OP PASSA GE.
In reference to the Court of Passage there was read
the following motion, of which notice had been give-
n
by Mr. Robertson Gladstone :
" To direct the attention of The council to the gref
uncertainty that at present exists for the trying ,!'„
causes in the CoUrt of Passage, both as regards tu`
opening, and the closing of the court, whereby much I%
convenience, risk; and loss are entailed upon couleeattornies, and suitors. To appoint a committee of te
council to enquire fully into the sane, and to ma,
such a report, with any suggestions or recommendatic'w"
to the council as may be found to be ne—
There was also read the folloivinfr

sary.
mlEninicati"

from Mr. Henry Bell, president of the. Law Society • 0
At a speciallectißg held upon Monday, the sth day of•K

• 'lBs9;`Bir. Bell, l'resident, in„ the chair f
Complaints having baatniadeto the Society by membersio,
the inconvenience caused" by ,
other than the
appointed by the Rules for the trial of causes depending inbio
Court of, Passage, and particularly the inconvenience tore
has arisen from' holding the last court so short a time be
the assizes. that the Court was adjourned without conclua:7
the business; 'the same riot being resumed after the 'clos

BATHS' COMMITTEE. •
Thepreceedings of this committee were read.
Mr.,JouNsok.—Not £5O 000—SA1 000 Mr. WAGSTAFF; in moving the proceedings, said he
Mr. Ilor.mr.,—Well, granted that it was £41,000, still had much pleasure in stating that their bath returns for
£9,300 was tacked to it for widening the streets. (Hear, the last year showed a very large increase, During the
last year they had at Paul-street baths 75,192 bathers";
hear.) This money must be raised in sovereigns, accord- last
166,752 ; making a total,, during the year end-
at St. George's baths, 75,902 ; at Cornwallis-street
ing to their owhestimates. Now, knowing something of
ing the 31st August, of 317,846 bathers---showing au
leitilme.taotelt danepdeknndderunAnh
upon, he
hadfallacious
no i ttlriteiynwaei ree a ndh
statementow
increase at Paul-street baths of 9;766; at St. George's,
as to the cost of this project which had been put for-
t. George's, £2,536 10s. Id. ; at Cornwallis-street,
8,501 ; at Cornwallis-street, 26,804. They received in
ward by the Markets' Committee. Why, they had
asked file council to sanction a plan which he (M at S
r. money at Paul-street, during the year, £905 Os. sd. ;
I:eerie/11a
se)khe£2,662 ss. Bd. ; making a total of £6,103 16s. 2d.=
a untiloa nawfhe wi
which,
momentsitwas s
aa
giod
~
would They -
involve an outlay of £50,000, but which he ventured to . showing an increase on the receipts of £76 'l9s. 2d. at
Pd. dt
on never seen
predict would never be carried out for less than £BO,OOO. Paul-street, - £295 6s. 3d: -at St. George's, ' and
(Hear, hear.) .The committee had never been -at the £342 Bs. 11d. at CorniVallis-street• baths; -making
owners of the • property, and had no conception as to a total of £684 14s. 6d., during the year. They had
what might be demanded for it. • Again, they told .: also a great increase in their 'twopenny plunge baths.
the council ' that they could provide for the expense They had in Cornwallis-street, during the past year,
49,768 twopenny bathers, in ' additiun to 11;130 school
of the project . out of the surplus revenue of the-
. ^ "----n;ffee ; but he begged to tell them that the children, 'who were admitted at .a penny each. In
Paul-street plunge baths they had 20,434 bathers at
1 twopence each. In regard to their' plunge bath for
Everton, it would be seen, bjr. their proceedings, that at

the assizes.
Irulaßekoired,..-That-the President be requested to cfi;
municate to his Worship the Mayor, as Judge of the Court,

pointCnebl
n suiteelf:;e

Committee would notvallow tL :tos any-
the kind, because the "Surplus revenue of any

hem'th

portioii of

ast meeting

he engthieer producec

some plans

hear.) .Then, there was the purchase of the Theatre- ,
royal, with its various.proprietors and vested interests.
in effecting this purchase, there would be the greatest
possible difficulties, in' consequence of several of the
parties being dead, and the property belonging to trustees:
_He had no 'doubt that the Town-clerk would tell them.
that they would experience the greatest difficulties in
.t, ; and that, if they did; they would Kaye to
rh price for it. Then, again, when he'--took
•
Ls consideration the value of public-houses; in
ace to which lie had had some experience during
recent' licensing session, he could tell them that
t week he had ascertained that the value,
if a
.publie-house license was between £7OO und.£Boo.,
Then, there were a number of shops amongst the property
'which it was proposed to purchase, and the parties' in
posSessien of' them 'would tell the committee that they'
must be paid for their vested interest in the trade if the
property was to be taken from thi..m. He would again
ask, were the members of the Markets' Committee really.
asking the council to sanction such a pro-
-tions bearing upon this pre-
-+. deliberation, and nothing
nouncil should be asked,

•
and specifications as to the" conversion of -the- old reser-
voir into a pluivi°e bath. ThesePlanS'were in strict ac-
cordance with the wishes of —the memorialists. 'At
the request of the committee another, plan would be
submitted to them at their next •meeting by the engi-
neer, showing the amount of accommodation which this
place would afford.; and this plan' would be submitted to
the council at their next meeting. .While it -was not to
be supposed for.one moment that the memorial coming,
from the inhabitants in the neighbourhood of Spencer-
street should be lost sight of, it was the intention of
the committee in 'the meantime to give preference to
the Kirkdale scheme. .
After some remarks from several gentlemen, _

obtaimnz
pay,. a 1

within the lasi

Mr. ANDERSON' and Mr. STITT expressed a hope that
the Kirkdale 'baths should not supersede the Everten
baths. .

Mr. JEFFERY suggested that the. Baths'... Committee
should,bring forward a scheme for converting a pertion
of Gill-street Market into baths. He thought they
were much required in that part of the town, and he had
no doubt they would materially increase the small reve-
nue now accruing from this market.

v 4
I the very

'he proceedings were confirmed,

n more than that a

J.T. S. H 01.31

'moved that the coroner's account

ird to any questions of finance, to sanction sucl
4 P.50_000. without even any plans, except thi

paid, amounting o £32 7s. He said it was unusual
)ut during the last month he saw th

min, execs:

drin kin

providing of a wholesale mark€

four children had been suffocatesk. in bed in (
quence of the mothers being drunk, e
dren had been suffocated, some of them in b

ght Ct

mach to be. feared

into ex

council c

Steains, and oth