Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-08-06 00:00:00

but that information his not been furnished. (Hear,
hear.) How then are we to act ? (Clamour, and cries
of " vote.")
The question of adjournment VOW then pat, and was lost
by 10 to 21. Ulla voting was as follows :
For the motion ; Aldermen Bennett and Dover; Coun-
cillors Stitt, Haydock, Steains, Picton, Kitchen, Hodson,
Mellor, and Beckwith-10.
Against the motion : Aldermen Chilton, Parker, Robin-
son, Gardner, and Houghton ; Councillors Anderson,
Holden, Turner, Horuby, Livingston, Banner, Fernihough,
Graves, Lawrence, A. Shane, Brancker, Tobin, Johnson,
Farnworch, Robertson, and Hall-21.
Mr. C. Tueeza : The adjournment having been nega-
tived, the proceedings of the Dock Committee will go on.
(Hear, hear.)
Mr. HODSON : Even dezpite our remonstrances
The DEnTY-MAYOR Order, sir. lam put here to
maintain order, and I call upon you to be silent.
(Uproar )
Mr. flounce : There are a dozen gentlemen at the
door, signalling with their friends hero. (Laughter and
clamour.)
The DEPUTY-MAYOR : I do not like that sign-making.
I like what is open and fair, and I hops gentlemen will
remain where they are. (Hear, hear.)
Ihe proceediege of the Dock Committee were then
read. Daring the reading, Mr. Kitchen attempted to
leave the room, and was only allowed to do so on his
promise to return. Tee noise waxel louder, and the
Council was broken up into groups, the members of each
group discussing some subject wieh much warmth.
Mr. WAGSTAFF (with unusual animation) : There is a
little legerdemain going on here, Mr. Ceairman. There is
a canvassing goirg on to make no Council.
Order was fir the moment restored, but the noise was
renewed on Mr. Stitt leaving the room. Mr Alderman
Gardner also attempted to leave the room, but was called
balk.
The proceedings having been read, they were, on the
motion of Mr. C. TURNER, seconded by Mr. CHILTON,
unanimously confirmed.
Mr. C. TURNER : The teat business is the electicn of
four members to serve on the Dock Committee in the room
of Mr. C. Turner, Mr. Robinson, Mr. Chilton, at" Mr.
Anderson. I move that those gentlemen be re-elected.
I will put them separately. I move that Mr. Charles
Tuner be re-elected. (Laughter.)
Mr. Cisuir )s seconded the motion.
Mr. Hoesoe : Supposing the election does not take
place, would these gentlemen be retained in their offices,
Mr. Turner as chairman, and the others as members of the
Dock Committee, until new members are appointed ?
The DEPUTY TOWN CLERK (Ar. Hughes) said that the
election shou'd be made at the first meeting in August, or
at some special meetit:g to be called fir the purpose. As,
however, they had preceeded so far, he thought it would
be prudent to fetish it.
Mr. Hoesoe : So long as there is such a difference of
( pinion.
The DEPUTY-MAYOR : Well, I really matt press ve order.
( Up -oar )
M. HODSON : I am entitled to speak on this question.
I have aright to ask f infozneeiien which shall glide my
vote.

The RAPUTY-MAYOR : The question you asked was
answered by the Tows-Clank. _ _ _

Mr. HOD'SON : I think it did not suit the cage. I think
if we adjourn until Saturday, the election on that day will
hold as good as ir it was done to-day. (" Hear, hear," and
"No, no.") It does appear to tne something extraordinkry
that Mr. Turner shQuid be CO anxious to press this matter
to-day. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. BRANCICER : The question bef:re the Council is
the appcintment of a g .ntleman in the place of Mr.
Turner. Does Mr. Hodson move an amendment ?

(Hear, hear.)
Mr. HODS )N : I have an amendment to move. I move
that the Counciladj)urn for the election of these gentlemen
to Saturday next, and I will give you my reason. I shall
not treat the subject with reference to what is going on in
London, but I submit that, when we have heard
Mr. Helms, Hornby, and other gentlemen,
who know all that is taking place, I do think it is extra-
ordinary that Mr. Tamer shJuld so press us to-day when
it is not nece3sary for us to ,co►ne to a decision on the
subject. The Council have been long subject to the
system of silence; but if silence was pudent before, how
much more SO a-e we told it is now ; and yet, despite of
that, and in regard of the feelings of the gentlemen who
have left the room, Mr. Turner wants to press this matter.
(Hear, hear.)
The DEPUIT-MAYOR : Allow me to put you right. This
is not the work of Mr. Turner, it has been carried by a
majority of the Council. Address yourself more to the
Council, and not to Mr. Turner individually, and you will
be in order. (Oh ! ott ! and clamour.)
Mr. HOD ox hoped they would discuss the natter with
calraness. He woutd appeal to Mr. Turner himself w' ether
he would consider his election in a Council of twenty-two
the fair expression of the Council's opinion.
The DEPUTY-MAYOR : I am rather surprised at your
modest requ;:st. (Laughter.) Whatever has been done
has been done by the Council, and not by Mr. Turner.
Mr. Hopsox : Well I move we adjourn to Saturday.
The DEPUTY-MAYOR : Will any body second it ?
Mr. JOIINSON : I second it.
Mr. WAGSTAFF : Look at the doer, Mr. Mayor.
(Laughter )
Tno door was partly open, and several members could
be seen cautiou'ly peering in, acd waiting to see what
turn affairs w,:uld take. Mn. Hodson hastened out to
summon them to his support.
The Th.:PUTT MAYOR : It is most uncourtous and ungen-
tlemanly for a gentleman to move an adjournment and
then take his hat and walk off; (uproar.)
Mr. WACWTAFF : We want a door-keeper.
M:. Hor.nxs : There are a number of them again at the
door. (Confu-ion.)
The DEPUTY-MAYOR : I am not door-keTer.
Mr. HALHEAD here came in—his first appearance.

Mr. HoosoN returned, and was soon followed by Mr.
Alderman linnet, Mr. Alderman Dover, Mr. Picton,
Mr. A. C. Stewart, and other members.
The DEPUTY Mayoit: This ie not honourable on their
part—it is most improper. (Clamour.)
Mr. BRANCKYR : Are those gentlemen who have just
come in entitled to vote ?

Mr. Picrort: Has the notion for adjou•nm3nt been
put from the chair ?
The DEPUTY-MAYOR : No, Sir.
Mr. Plcrox : Then we are entitle ]to vote.
The DErurY-MAyoF.: The glntleman who morel the
adjournment took his hat and walked off.
Mr. PICTON: Fro had a right tp do ED. I call upon you
to put the motion.

The DEPUTY-MAYOR : I am in the hands of the Council.
(Clamour.)
Mr. PICTON : You are bound to put it. (Uproar )
The DEPUTY-MAYOR :I am not (Renewed uproar.)
Mr. Prorox : Yes you are. (Uproar )
The DEPUTY- 7rTAYOR : Will you hear me ? (Clamour
(Mr. BECKWITH : Not in your individual capacity.
(Uproar.)

The Depery-Mayon ( warmly) : Will you sit down, air?
(Laughter, and cries of " vote.") There are four gentlemen
speaking at a time, and I must exert some little authority.
I do not care whether you are pleased or not, but I must
say the most unhandsome conduct has been used by gentle-
men of the C.,uncil this few/. I saw -.7l:hia my
fifteen years experience of it. (Uproar.)
Mr. STEAINS (jumping up with vehemence): I cannot
sit still and hear such terms as " unhandsome" and " un-
gentlemanly" applied to me among others. I call upon you,
sir, fir an explanation. (Great uproar.)
The DEPUTY-Mivon: lam prepared to give it, Six or
seven gentlemen go out and post themselves at the door,
and when I send a messenger to request them to come in
they refuse, and say they lave a right to remain there as
long as they please, and would not allow the door to be
closed.

Mr HORNBY: The amendment having been moved, it is
the duty of the chair to put it. (Hear, hear.)
The DEPUTY-MAYOR : I bow to your judgment.
Mr. SIIEIL : The representative c f the Mayor has made
use of language which I must say was very much out of
order. (Hear, hear.) He is placed there to preserve
order and keep us within the propriety of language, but
I appeal to every gentlemam if the anima aversions which
he addressed to others should not be applied to himself.
(Hear, hear.) He should have shown up a better example,.
and whatever his individual opinions may have been, his
conduct as a Mayor should have restrained him at least
within those bounds which gentlemen usually lay down
for themselves when they are presiding over others.
(Hear, hear.) Mr. Sheil then referred to the question of
adjournment, recommended by the deputation in London,
and urged that they ought not to be deterred from doing
what was recomme'.ided as prudent, by any threat of Mr.
Turner.

The Dapirrv-YIAvoR : Mr. Shell has thought proper to
give way to his; temper, but it is hardly fair to so attack
me in the situation I am now placed. Let him move a
vote of censure on me and I shall be very proud to receive
it from h;,m. Mr. Sheil is fond of these attacks, but I
throw 'them back on him with the contempt they merit.
(Oh, *oh !" and great uproar.)
: Oh, most temperate chairman ! (Haar,
and laughter.)
Mr. C. TuavEs. urged that the proceedings of some
geneemen in this matter showed that there was a personal
animosity to himself. (Cries of " No, no.") He was not
alluding to Mr. Sheil.—(cries of " name, same.") —but he
had no doubt of that animosity on the part of some gentle..
men, and that the repeated motions of adjournment were
not dictated by any feeling of public utility or principle,