Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-11-10 00:00:00

ELECTION OF MAYOR

The MAyon said, the first subject on the paper was
the election of Mayor for the ensulnz year.

Mr. WILLIAM fIUILE said :—Mr.Mayor and gentle-
men,=l rise for the purpose of proposing that my old
and very good friend, Alderman J. 11. Turner, should
be the Mayor for the ensuing year. I am not going
now to enter into the merits of any other candidate or
candidates who may be proposed to you for a seat in
that chair, for I believe there are several gentlemen who
are ambitious of tne honour of sitting in the Mayor's
chair; but I shall merely state those ,claims of Mr.
Turner which, I believe, will be recognised by the ma-
jority of the Council. , Those claims have been too long
overlooked; and I believe several gentlemen differing from
me in politics, and upon the opposite side of the ques-
tion, have expressed it publicly that they did think—l
don't mean in the present year, but at various tinies—
that those claims had been overlooked, and that they
ought to be recognised. Now, if those gentlemen have
so expressed , themselves; I hope that they will support
Mr. Turner upon the present occasion, and show that
they want to do an act of grace when they consider
themselves that the rocognition of Mr. Turner's claims
has been too long delayed. He has been, I believe
eighteen years lathe Town Council of Liverpool. (Hear,
hear.) Ile has been appointed to various committees,
and always discharged the duties of those com-
mittees most assiduously. Mr. Turner is a man
possessed of gentleman-like demeanour, and by his
truly honourable conduct has gained the esteem and res-
pect of his colleagues. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Turner has
also—l will just look at his claims, for I have put them
down on a piece of paper-4 may say, ton, sir, that he,
has served a sort of apprenticeship to the mayoralty, for,
on various occasions, he has been appointed deputy-mayor
by several gentlemen. I will read to you the gentle-
men's names—Mr. Littledale, the Messrs. Holm°,
Mr. Tobin, Mr. Shand, and, I think, my
friend Mr. Lloyd, but I don't know exactly.
Now those gentlemen would naturally put a deputy in
the chair whom they think would conduct the business
of the office as well as they would themselves have done
had they been in the situation. Those gentlemen have
availed themselves of Mr. Turner's services for their•
own convenience ; and I can hardly suppose they will
now be so ungenerous as not lo assist to place him in
the chair that they have hitherto thought him fit and
I shall not believe that

to sit in asa deputy

they will do anything of the sort until I see it. Now
there is another qualification of Mr. Turner. He is a
staunch Conservative.—(Cries of no, no !)—Pardon me,
he is a staunch Conservative. Who says no?

Mr. TYRER—I do.
Mr. EARLE—Then you know nothing about it.
will tell you why. lon are always making blunders in
this room, Mr. Tyier. Now, Ur. Turner was at the
great feast given to Lord Derby, and he would not have
been there unless he had been subjected to the ordeal of
passing before a committee,-_ and the fact - ascertained
Whether he was Qualified for a seat there. • I will

answer for it, too, that he was

uproarious as most

be trodden upon, or be deemed unqualified for the good
society of their fellow-men. This was not the first
attempt that the Council had made to put a young maxi over
an elder man. Mr. J. H. Turner had the claim of years
upon his side, and those qualificationswhich the world called
respectable. He did not mean by the colour of cloth,
but of a well-trained mind. It was the right of every
gentleman who'passed through that Council to have the
honour of being Mayor. There was not one present
who would dare to sully the reputation of Mr. Turner
in any shape or form, nor was . there one there
who could call in question his . qualification, for
he stood before them in the position of an honour-
able man, whether on the Exchange or ,in his own
private dwelling. He was a man that would not

submit to any impropriety, or anything mean, to effect
an object. He could not for the life of him conceive
why he was to be thrown to one side—why his long
services were to be lost sight of. Was it because he did
not come so far tip the ladder of Conservatism or Toryism,
or whatever name they liked to call it by—because he

to 1841, whiff there
and only three Conservativf
to give Mr. Anderson his
and- when he glanced rouni
well deserved to hold the u
gistrate. There was his Inc

I the town long

Dover, and these jentlem
ferred on them of holding

gentlemen were at the eloquent speeches, wilica were
very much in favour of the Liberals. Now, will you
deny that, Mr. Tyrer ? (Laughter.) Well, now, I don't
hold the ridiculous opinion that a man's religion or
politics are any qualification or diiqualification for the
office of mayor. But if they are a qualification, and I
must presume that they are so, because, with the excep-
tion of yourself, Sir, who have so worthily filled the
chair with dignity to yourself and considerable benefit
to the town, we have had none but Conservatives in the
civic chair for years past.
Mr. CI-1101LE* TvitzfEtt—Mr. Sohn Holme.
-"":_t.1-r. EARLS-Oh, don't talk of him. He's dead and
gone, and the Liberals did not put him in. (Laughter.)
Now, if politics he a qualification for the office of
Mayor, then my friend Mr. Turner has the benefit of it.
With these remarks, I propose that Mr. J. H. Turner
be the Mayor for the ensuing. year.
Mr. JOHN STEWART, wno was very indistinctly
heard, was understood to say, that it was a matter of
congratulation that two gentlemen of such high respec-
tability, character, and position, shmild be proposed to
the Council for their choice. Both gentlemen had paid
that attention Ito their duties; which must have com-
manded the good opinion of every one in the Council.
He would not say one word in disparagement of Mr
Anderson, whom he esteemed and respected ; but here
was another gentleman of great respectability and posi-
tion, and who had the claim to present of very long
services. That gentleman was Mr. J. H. Turner ; and
on the ground of his long services, he (Mr. Stewart)
should have very great pleasure in seconding Mr. Earle's
motion. _ _ _ _ . .

letain them longer Mr he hr,

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there was Mr. C
Mr. Bennett, Mr

Mr. FRANCIS SIIAND-I feel how difficult it is to
propose a gentleman to fill the office which you have
held, Mr. Mayor, with so much satisfaction to this
Council, and to the borough at large ; but, I may men-.
tion the name of a gentleman who has all those quali-
fications which are indispensable for the discharge of
the duties of chief magistrate ; and that gentleman is
Mr. Thos. Darnley Anderson, who is one of the most popu-
lar of the members of this Council. ( " Hear, hear,"
and " no, no.") Mr. Anderson represents a ward in the
borough, and he was not chosen by a majority, but was
returned to the Council without opposition by the
;whole ; and I can only say that his gentlemanly
conduct, that his amiability of temper, as a man of
business, has always marked him as a man of prudence
in everything of importance in which he has-been en-
gaged. I am not going into any iiiiitutice of his cha-
racter or conduct. We know that as a magistrate he
has showed his qualification for holding the office of first
magistrate of this town. I will not enter into this or
that about liberality or party, but it gives me great plea-
sure to propose Mr. T. D. Anderson to be the mayor for
the ensuing year.
Mr. Alderman COOPER—I have great pleasure in
seconding the motion, that Mr. Anderson should hold
the high office of Chief Magistrate. When I
look back at his high character, at his ability,
at his gentlemanly conduct in this Council
and in this town, I consider few men so well
qualified to fill this high and important station. He
has already rendered great service to the town in re-
forming its juvenile offenders. He has also subscribed
very liberally for the education and improvement of 'the
poor, and I am quite satified that if you elevate him to
this high position he will perform his duty to the
town, to the Council, to his country, and to his sovereign,
I have therefore great pleasure in seconding the nomi-
nation of 21r. Thomas Darnley Anderson.
Mr. GLADSTONE felt that such a meeting as that
could not be allowed to pass over without some remark.
There was a great deal involved in the selection they
were about to make, and he was about to record his
-vote in favour of Mr. Turner, though he was free to
confess that Mr. Turner was not, in many instances, of
his way of thinking. Mr. Anderson was an enemy
to progress ; but Mr. Turner, on the contrary, was
disposed to take a very liberal view of such matters as
came before him for consideration. He might say of
Mr. Turner that he had not presumed to dictate to any
one how he was to act in forwarding his election. He
had stooped to nothing mean to obtain a sound or stray
vote. He
was incapable of such conduct. Ile was a man of
high honour, and, whatever his political views might be,
he wished)to state that he was a gentlemen well qualified
to fill the office. Previous remours had been circulatedthat
dinners had been given, and there were parties out of
doors who not on y disregarded the fourth command-.
ment, but who had sold. their birthright for a mess of
pottage. • It was in , vam to treat the matter in the
light colours that they had heard Mr.
virtues of Mr. Anderson, who had been a most determined
resister .of every improvement, or such as appeared
to him (Mr. Gladstone) to be improvements. (Laughter.)
Be admitted that his views were individual; bnt
often he thought 'correct, and he was determined,
if possible, to carry them out. It was in vain
to talk of the eharacteristics of Mr. Anderson;
he preferred Mr. Turner to Mr. Anderson as a public
man. Mr. Anderson was a gentleman, and a well-
informed man, and if he were of a different way of
thinking, he (Mr. Gladstone) would be much gratified;
but often when he had looked for grapes he had found
thorns, and when he had looked for a mind well
trained and well directed, he had found it other-
wise. For that reason he objected to Mr. Ander-
son, and, of the two, preferred Mr. Turner. Mr. Earle
hart said very properly, that Mr. J. H. Turner had
very great claims on the Council. There were a few
stray votes that might cause some little difficulty ; but,
were they to be told that they were to worship the
olden image of aristocracy, which had been set up.
Was it in this age that they were to be told to do so or

possessed of ability, and had judgment to discuss the
matters _that would come before them. It was due to
those persons that they should now get some repose;
and he could only say, that if the members of the
Council again re-elected them, it was high time that
Mr. Martin's act, for cruelty to animals, should be
brought into operation. (Hear, and "oh 7. oh !") It
was also requisite for the public good, and the cause of
progress too, that they should not again sit at that Coun-
cil. He understood that the Council would meet with the
most determined opposition from those who had decided
upon securing their return. He asked was qualification
necessary in the election of aldermen ; if so, and as he
had already referred to that point, be called upon them
and entreated them not to have men of ignorance among

them, nor permit such to 'hold so prominent a place.
Give him a man of education and he would wear him in
his heart's core. (Hear, hear.) Let the Council do
its duty, and elect such men of intelligence as he referred
to, then would it reflect credit upon itself, and be only
discharging its duty. _

was a few steps below Mr. Anderson? that was the reason - Mr. Alderman BENNETT rose to reply to Mr. Glad-
that on this occasion he was to be discarded. He would stone, and in doing so, said he could not permit such a
not speak too fast. He had reason to believe that there speech to he made, vilifying as it did, the character of his
were some in the room who were favourable to Mr. absent friends, without replying to it. He could designate
Turner, and who looked upon it very much as he did it by no milder term, than by saying it was unworthy
himself. He concluded by observing that though he of the man who had uttered it, and unworthy of Mr.
had no personal objection to Mr. Anderson, yet he had Gladstone. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Gladstone, by making
greater confidence in Mr. Turner. such a calumniatory speech, had left himself open to
Mr. Alderman J. BRAMLEY-MOORE rose and said he great censure, and was now placed in a most unworthy
had come into the room unprepared with information, position. (Hear, and cries of " Order.")
for he (lid not know how half a_ dozen men were going The MAYoR—I hope Mr. Bennett, in his address,
to give their votes. He had to say that helad not been will temper his words with moderation.
canvassed by one of the gentlemen now nominated, Alderman BENNETT said that Mr. Gladstone had
either personally or by any one on their behalf; spoken of, giving eyes to the blind, and sending his
but he had cone into the room with the intention of absent friends to blind asylums, and attempted to quote
voting for Mr. Turner. When he considered the duties scripture ; but his (Alderman Bennett's) only regret
that Mr. Turner had performed, and that he had been was, that a man who knew so much scripture as Mr.
a member, with himself, for eighteen years, he could Gladstone, should have used it so irreverently. (Hear,
speak frotn personal experience as to the manner in hear.) He would. ask that Council, would it
which he had discharged his duty. He would not go the doing a scriptural act if Mr. Gladstone had the
length Mr. Gladstone had gone, because he was equally power to put such men as the gentlemen he referred
convinced that neither Mr. Anderson nor Mr. Turner to, and who were not present to vindicate their own
would stoop to anything unworthy. When he looked cause, into Blind Asylums for the restoration of their
around him he saw many gentlemen who were worthy sight ; and also into graving docks, that they might
of fulfilling the duties of Mayor, and who had great have the shells scraped off them. The men Mr.
claims on the office. He had to avow that he voted Gladstone had so unjustly assailed were men who had
against the retiring Mayor, and he was sure he did not passed uprightly through every position in life, and
respect him the less for having done so. He went were respected and esteemed by all who knew them.
on to say that Mr. Anderson was much esteemed, (Hear, hear.) They were gentlemen too.
.(Hear and
was well fitted to fill the • office of Chief Magis- " order.") Many of them, he could also state, were
trate ; but he believed that Mr. Turner was still descended from their forefathers of many generations,
more eminently qualified. He did not consider that the and could refer back to those generations with honour-
feeling was because one was a greater Tory or less a Tory able pride. (A voice—" we are, ally descended from one
there than the other. There might be exceptions pair.") Therefore, they had net been limited in
when Mr. Turner had gone with the Conservative this respect to some who could. only trace back
party, . and when he had done "otherwise. He their descent to one generation. (Hear, hear, and
was not going into the question of electing gentle- " order.") He hoped a fair report of Mr. Gladstone's
men of liberal politics, for the Liberals had passed speech would be given, as he was sure that when he saw
over a person who ought to have been elected Mayor, it in print, he would himself read it with shame and re-
he alluded to Mr. George Holt,—a gentleman pre- Bret for having given utterance to such expressions.
eminently qualified for the office, and yet he had been (Hear, hear.) He (Alderman Bennett) felt so warm
passed over by his own party from year to year. ("No, upon the subject he could scarcely restrain his feelings,
no.") Yes, yes ;he had been passed over from 1835 and considered himself fully justified in the course he
--(lre in the Council sixty Liberals had adopted. (Hear, hear.)
He would be most happy The voting papers having been handeu
apport on another occasion; declared the following elected:—Messrs. Joseph Cooper
' the room, he saw many that (28), Richard Cardwell Gardner (35), Samuel Heinle
ma- (34), John Woodruff (30), James Parker (32), John
'ld Stewart (28), and John.Bramley-Moore (28) • and there
being an equality of votes for Mr. Bold (27), and Mr.
-Beckwith (27), the Mayor gave his casting vote in
Mr. Bold, who was therefore elected. The

subjoined table will sl
Council voted :

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Bold Thomas
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