The Northern Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-03-13 00:00:00

-LIVERPOOL, PRJDAY.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT,

(By British and Irish Magnetic Telegraph]

HOUSE OF LORDS—THuRsDAY.

The Lord Chancellor took his seat on the woolsack at
five o'clock.
OUR RELATIONS WITH TIM UNITED STATES.

The Earl of Elgin gave notice that, on Tuesday next,
he should move for certain papers, and call the attention
of their lordships to the state of our relations with the
'United States,

whether any steps had been taken as yet with respect
to it.

Mr. F. Peel said that two propositions had been made
for the establishment of prisons at Curragh—one for the
erection of a civil prison, and the other for the erection of
a military prison within the limits of the camp at
Curragh No decision had been come to with regard to
either of the propositions.

SUPPLY.

Mr. Fitzroy brought up the report of supply granted
yesterday—Agreed to.

:TIIE CRIMEAN COMMISSIONERS.

On the motion for the house going into committee of
supply,
Mr. Palk moved the following amendment :—" That Sir
John :Al-Neill and Col. Tulloch ably fulfilled the duty
entrusted to them of enquiring into the arrangement and
management of the Commissariat Department; that the
evidenee in their report proves that, in the months of
December, 1854, and January, 1855, the sufferings of the
army mutt have been Intense, and that great mortality
was occasioned by overwork and exposure, and want of
food and clothing; that the examinations into this
6tatettent by the oard of General Officers materially
support the coig.litmions arrived at by the Commissioners
as to the want of orggnisation In the Quartermaster
General's, Commissariat, and Transport Services ;
that it appears to this house that, from the report of the
board, this inefficiency must be attributed to the imperfect
arrangement or conduct of those departments." The
hon. *gentleman at considerable length dwelt on the
sufferings of the army in the Crimea. repeating the argu-
ments so often used in discussing the commissioners'
report.
Mr. A. Black seconded the amendment. He hoped the
noble lord would break through any invisible fences that
prevented the government from giving honour to whom
hour was due. _ _ _ . _

Lord Palmerston recapitulated the statements he had
formerly made relative to the services of these gentlemen,
and said that the present motion was not the most useful
application of the time of the house. Had it been made,
accompanied by the hon. member's speech,:two years ago,
it might have been appropriate, but the troops had left
the Crimea more than twelve months, and were then the
admiration of the world, the evils he complained of having
been remedied. Our loss there was less than that of our
allies, and less in proportion to that of the Russians.
They were mending for the better in the Crimea before
the commissioners went out. The medical commissioners
effected more benefit to the army and the public than
it was possible for the Crimean Commissioners to accom-
plish. The Chelsea enquiry was not a commission of
inquiry into the Crimean Report, but a Court fori the
officers who had left the Crimea before the Crimean
Commissioners had arrived there, to exonerate themselves
P‘om those portions of the Crimean report they considered
impugned their character The motion ougbi: pot to be
acceded to at the present time.
After a few words from Sir John Fitz;erald, General Peel
defended the report of the Chelsea Board.
Mr. S. Herbert acknowledged that the fault in
the managentet of the Crimean Campaign - was
attempting to do too much too soon. He concurred that a
sufficient reward had not been conferred upon Sir J. M•Neill
and Colonel Tulloch, and suggested the withdrawal of all
the resolutions with the exception of the first, and the ad-
dition of a resolution expressing an opinion that en address
should be presented to the Crown, praying that some signal
mark of royal favour should be c nferred upon them.
Sir 3. Pakington, Mr. J. Ewart, and Mr. Palk concurred
in the suggestion, and the resolutions having been so
amended,
Lord Palmerston consented to them to meet the wish of
the house, and the motion was then agreed to.

NoN-00,1111fssioNED OFFICERS.
Sir J. Ferguson clreNt attention to the increased expen-
diture of a non commissioned officer to a commissioned one,
and urged their claims to the assistance of the government
while they remained ensigns.
The House then went into committee of

SUPPLY.
Mr. F. Peel introduced the army estimates.
The following votes were agreed to for four months :-
126,796 men for the land forces at home and abroad, except
Indian troops; £1,467,000 on account for the forces at
home and abroad ; £186,000 for miscellaneous charges;
£14,000 for volunteer corps; £125,000 for manufacture of
military stores; £lll,OOO for wages of workmen and
artificers ; £40,000 for clothing ; £319,000 for provisions,
forage, fuel, lights, &c. ; £199,000 for warlike stores. The
rtmaining votes of the estimates were also agreed to.

TAIL SPEAKER.
Lord Palmerston brought up the Queen's answer to the
address of the Commons in reference to the retirement of
the Right Hon. the Speaker, Mr. Shaw Lefevre. Her
Majesty stated her willingness to confer some signal mark
of her favour, and recommend-A the subject to the
e)nsideration of the Commons. The noble lord moved that
the message be taken into consideratien in committee of the
whole house to morrow.

In Committee of Ways and Means, a vote of £21,889,000
of exchequer bills was agreed to,

MISCELLANEOUS BILLS.

The Income Tax Bill was read a third time, and passed.
The 'Extra Parochial Places Bill, the Ecclesiastical
Jurisdiction Bill, the Indemnity Bill, the Copyhold and
Inclosare Commissions, &c. Bill were severally read a third
time, and passed.
The Customs' Duties Bill was considered as amended,
and ordered for third readi❑g.
The Racehorse Daty Act Amendment Dill, the Pauper
Maintainance Bill, and the Cinque Ports Act Amendment
Bill went through committee.
The Municipal Corporations Act Amendment Bill was
withdrawn.
'rho house adjourned at 11 o'clock.