The Northern Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-02-18 00:00:00

THE LEAD LINZ
TO THE EDITOR OF THE NORTHERN TIMES.
f3ir,--From the correspondence on this subject to which
toiat the metama of `R'
Yin have kindly devoted apace, I think it will be conceded,
ivious to and myself are sufficiently
9)(Plauation ;
Your readers as not to require comment or
ttetLall captai.:w
'and from the so called " peremptory order
which he has appended to his letter of
''
9th iP dt,the " • which led to it are also distinctly
Bet for'. - "
cia,_ .11 or implied, viz., the pecuniary advantage to one
,as ef men by the implied punishment of another.
'`.., R." commenced an attack on an indispensable (and I
Qttualit not unworthy) class of men, by a tirade of " igno-
rance and neglect, " peremptory orders, which had been
" totally
, disregarded," &c., to which for the benefit of
1 ic"t4er class, " he solicited your attention," and it was
-rem this class • detraction and class advocacy that I
balied to his first letter, and by showing what the
siuess of the underwriter really was, to enable your
all
.teadtas to judge whether his " advantage' ought "above
to be consulted, and another crass for that purpose
01:Tressed. This really is the question at issue.
ohm" R." little knows the conflicting circumstances with
( as the loss of the Tyne has apparently caused him
i h into print) the commander of a mail steamer has
bu deal ; nor does he take into account, that while one
risks of the Government is urging him on to speed at all
‘sas, another branch of that same Government is holding
au the rod over Wan in a vengalul spirit in ease his judg-
Ten errs. Ia proof of this antagonism, I need only
beyond aialative
i emind -
au, ien of the recent Australian mail contract, where
peu,Alties are to be enforced for every day
tare stipulated time, and a premium is to be given
furev'ery day under
Cki 11-4 it is, the non-use of the lead line at which "R" has
,en umbrage, let me call his attention to the contrast
::,Ich exists between the sentence on the captain of the
tins`Tue " and that on the captain, R.N., of H.M.S.
übroke," (a more recent case). In the latter case,
~ war m safely presume, was no object,l for the 1
not
'e-as stated to be "laying to," and the fact of her
n"t becoming a wreck does not, I apprehend, affect the
ikuseLtin. The sentence on the former (twelve months'
te-'''Llsiou), though it does not seem to satisfy " R," is
auiaalent to a loss of professional reputation, after (I
bee
is eve) thirty years service at sea, which it will almost
ye i
ber .. MPessible for him to regain, besides being a positive
to
e hisa employment during that time.
aaa °ow contrast this sentence with that of captain R.N.:
1 "ere K M S. " Pembroke " while actually " laying to, '
13 the-vicinity of shoal water," struck on the ridge off.
ast:4enoss. The court found "a want of due caution in
OF' making use of the deep-sea lead line, and also a want
which attention being paid to the hand lead line, fear
"lch rea the court direct Captaid Fraser be sovaaaely
-
t runanded and admonished to be more ceareed in
•tituse le '
~,,These contrasts will also serve to Mustage government
'4 rfeeence with private property, arjd
kivat . . .
e individuals, also how n the oppression of
aril ho
his o respect rue:',ite property is treated,
w. w they "take careleof p•-jwa,”
pect to persona;
8 Orfla letters • do - ' •
Pcies I need only refer '• R " to
fair
__,a rs , nor do I " shrink from the question" of
exiat°l Yand equal '
justice. But when I see that such
the .aarelnse....
' Y P":a- e r s of oppression have been vested in
e4v.liscoarci oF
. frade, whereby a master in the merchant
tt elane C:-.41 be debarred from following his occupation, if
% Keepwumn he employs and pays for that purpose omits
noek, tb.e tide watch on board his vessel in Liverpool
'; I cannot refrain from advocating their cause, and
' Ijititing their attention to the exceptional position in
. ri,,e,t' the
.legislature has placed them. I believe lam
eaT,," la stating that they are liable to have their cert ill-
j". suspendedcancelled from such a circumstance.
~,or . 11,1,40, respect to discussion, I sesa nothing that can be
"fairge the subject of such, unless asl before stated, it be
1
ale P'aY and equal justice," not 'only between the
andpolle and the underwriter, but between the former
Ille those of all other professions and occupations. I
tc star,V,s9cl my remarks in my letter of the 7th instant, by
: liee.f:4 fly intention "not to justify in any way the
40-1: act of all proper precautions for the safety of ships,"
wi'l° I nw.
itiaaa ether ray style pleases " R " or not, is a matter. of
ha'aiu,eence to me, nor dcel care what mode of expression
itild rPts, provided lie uses argument instead of invective,
eoes t distort facts or pervert the truth.
to ~I; then
ss of the " Tyne appears to have given rise
letter
°l)Ponent's h 8
Tyne
effusion I append a portion of a
dig- °la the sul'iect from a liberal minded passenger and
tylnterest 0 "'"" '
lhani„ e-4 man.
'alas a-ang You for giving insertion to my commuuica-
a ' ' now take in leave of "ft " and the lead line.*
ours , y b
verPool, Feb. 14. 1857. FAIR PLAY.
the .1-.,:, kekland, of Oxford, one of the passengers on board
lis,One, in a letter to the Oxford Herald, makes some
ilia "' remarks on the late disaster. After saying that
tit; l':ablie have themselves greatly to blame for many of
soaitivvrecks which take place, he proceeds thus tt,t, Paneh stress is now laid on expedition in all steam
trorsit h.,
. valued---' sea, or land, that, practically, hours are often
it,,,6
~,,, than lives. Speed is attained by increased
faste;.7/7" "Y increased expenditure of various kinds. The
a' tila3 t ? Public choose to go, the more lives will from
acsoi, ° time be lost; and though we may, when accidents
blon ',throw back the responsibility on the professional
de ii wPc, have thus been goaeon, still our impatience of
01 there at the bottom of therms chief in a great number
Ofrb, eases. The old habits of seamanship, keeping ;,,ell
'Bq f'o shors, heaving to in fogs, waiting for il
Pe",cs, and
thou:lh' May be too antiquatee for the days ar. steam and
reers-a of hurry ; but:as long as winds, f
-07,5, currents, and
Nal reefs-°'a
the ordinary.physical and 74ioral infirmities of
tub. *lst, these aid habits, if sloaa, will still' be at least
I' The I) . i 1
°St ni - aPere tell us that ti''eat packet hOmpany has
14Y
ab" thie
ShiPl; aqll.-.1 read f the total wreck, daring
veemseuee, of tap
t, ,ht coin a -• Ostend packet, under an old and
at. than er, when it was blowing a gale of wind at
eaota. It eve ' - '
scores of other
as luso, - anew the hearts of these and
ta.4-. af Stake many would inform us that "their character
a is, „--that, prudent or not, they must go"? The
;le and tear
the public generally do not know what the
Via., -;.:u tear of professional men in their several avoca-
,`4ql-'4IIY is, or, knowing, they do not think about it.
Oe wili3cTsen has a want, this want is to be supplied, and
,"I;Rhi.,(he sYstem becomes one of unhealthy and dangerous
wailt 'lleB-ure, doubled by competition, and little noticed TtWhetteessful, because familiar.
he,B er these remarks apply to the present instance
?4 reseanellSt decide ; but, as a working man myself, I feel
)4, theriiihPt if a system urges on its agents and then turns
;",,r hi aalc.'r the -consequence. Employers should fver C4iers ""incl that good professional men, especially
rte. and •ta ' and their ailors, value, as a matter of course, duty
sal, Fns OWn li second. With what cirournspec-
d -`erere is the standard of duty to be imposed 1 efth celare ~... ' • • what I on Tuesday
tis ee co "..Y conviction, from saw .
-thle —ears of the Tyne, that they value their lives as
g gto ti., .
public.
ha, Y this a amt. duty to the company and the . r hen,-- , are led to the more pleasant tisk of consider-
•-• (1e.,,„ ,
Yga —uen worse everything might have been on
1. Yth
1 )11 'Ph, ka:a it was.
i ti„v,e titor,sulP, instead of canting round head to sea, might
„"' ito,rial/ad broadside on, in which case I presume every
and 'the have been washed off her.
5,..a4 ehessall,"asengers, instead of being confiding, patient,
tah—`&ll in the many hours they had to feel the
all flit; °f thebefore help could come, might have
4.
,roubles, ship
ktfd, the me td'the crew, themselves, and each other..
/17:4er usi:ul'ers, crew, and servants, instead of being
[• sa - Dew “Possessed, communicative, and like brave men
4444ti04 their risk, and met it, might have made our
Ne 4 kailich,t.lch more hard to bear, whereas Capt. Valler,
,' !14 br,4'llai -1,1 sotind Judgment, encouraged us in procuring
0 jOsesßi,?°cl, la going where we would in the ship, and
i aea„eat, --.44 ourselves of such information as we choose,
catiableith
earee an exception, everything was calm,
4116. as convenient as the case admitted.
i, .

TEE BACHELO4S' BALL."
• 'LIR EDITOR OF IHE NORTHERN TIMES. _
ft,"tefor3:Your able advocacy many local abuses have
c,,.`"ed, and although the great " Bachelors' Ball"
"," properly under the head of "abuse," yet
otipOtere sis one circumstance 'connected with it
it ,;„, not to pass unnoticed, as it • comes very
,:wnse," if not actually one. The " Bachelors'
t.v.`ll-ttri: not come, like Christmas, once a year,
tki*. bri,,l4llY—and when they come (like Christmas),
Att%trozr,' Dgood che6r, but where does the " cheer
t 1.4(1 Why, from London. Thre is the point
tlZlrepiai'lverpool tradesmen and oth have a right
feelti,',Peha,i4+ on The "Bachelors Club" is made
.up
lriott's, Merchants' sons, and others, who derive
itittaq from and through the people of L.iverpool
ttra .11ael,', if any, comes except through this SOCITCO,
4,) Club" aim at great things in the aris-
444:eeti.„' -b)
iand their " ball," of Course, was the creme
n that respect. The " Bachelors gave.a
ti
x, threolB as
R ell as the " ball" happens only once in
at !i4t thc,,e,_ara—(it would be vulgar if more frequent),
?'Bl4. --'s Yen, sir—where did they procure this
'y 4:44e4,°:1" ? At Lynn's, no; at Radley's, no; well,
tit ?crow,'" °f the houses so famous for catering, no.
'4t %.,4:it it from London ready cooked ! They
N4*Preeti 'era, and dishes,'ltnives and forks—some say
iliar B,e ootetrion things—vegetables, called potatoes,
•,,(10114.:ne4tne reeking from the great metropolis to
In fact: everything was brought from
'•1(',0„ha,„;:1),t People to devour the vivands, but in
'he thing done in " slap up aristocratic
„'.°ll-1(1 have had at least a. dozen or two of
(IclktiN),"kr. mil 8 from the. West End, to pronounce on
'l2vci up by Mr. Gunter (for this was the
Ca'pit down, with his troupe of waiters and
" diro'd fine." Sir; the proceedings at
t 3, Ball," in this respect, has raised the
b." `°ivit• Liverpool has had recentlthree
14111411,144180c1i° from her Majesty, one from Prince
Vaki and from his Royal Highness the Duke' of
b-dc1.,11(4" °,_ll. each of theso occasions there was a
41,1'1(h-tent nraet: -old the sensible people who managed
send to London for a cook ? No; they
prti'!„.4.;:fetitlwil.tsti local talent, (and so was Royalty a 150),...
.14,1, Are in Lynn, Radley, Towers, Lawton,
IN 'in-1-'0 the ftPoun ,the " Bachelors" more difficult to be
ueen ? And is is not rather ridiculous
:;44,7 in,„l4, en giving to a London tradesman (who
13 one ‘uoirn, nor this town, except the pocket.
NlNCnar 0,,;2'1. the sums that should be distributed
tql -Pl4 from which they are drawn by the
e4l the `u-nii hint may draw more details from
GLOBE.