Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-11-06 00:00:00

THE N ORTITERN TIMES. 'LIVERPOOL, FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 6, 185'7

QUEEN'S COLLEGE, LIVERPOOL.

The inauguration ceremony connected with the opening
of the Queen's College, 1 iverpcol, tcck place yesterday, in
the Lecture-hall of the Liverpool Institute and School of
Art, in the p-eeeece of one of the most numerous
gatherings we ever haveseen of the rank, wealth, and respec-
tability cf the town. The college is in connection with
the University of London, and by warrant, under her
Majesty's sign manual, is empowered to grant certificates,
by virtu, of which its students will be admitted to the
examinaticn for deg:ces in arts and laws, and for honour.,
exhibitions and scholarships coefeired by the Truniver,ity.
The chair teas taken by the Right lion. Lord Beeterien,
who, on entering the hall was received with the most
enthusiastic acclamations. His lordship was accompanied
on to the platform by Mr. William Brown, Esq . M P.,
and James Mulleneux. They were preceded by Messrs.
Geo Holt, H. Booth, P. W. Ronald, E. S. Pummel', H M.
Heylock, 8 Booth, &c. Members of the Council, Mr.
Caries, the Secretary, and followed by the Professors, viz..
The Rev. H Griffiths, Dean of the, Faculty of Arts and
Laws, D. Cameron, M.A. , Vice Dean, and Professors Rev.
J. Cranbrook, Rev D. M. Issacs C. Archer, J. Byerly,
F.R C. 8., James Eliot, Geo, ge Hamilton, E.C.B , E.
1111680 D, A. Macilveen, Dr. Itietslag. Next came the
Directors of the Liverpool lustitu e, among whom were
Messrs S. Thorneiy, C. S. Farnuell Robinson, Sbirtimin,
Santley, Evans, Bateman, Goodall, Murphy, W. C. Miller,
W. J Mason, &e &c.
There eere also present Councillors Picton, S. Holme,
J. Stewart, Corbily, J R. Jeffery, Hodson, Stitt, She,
Sec R. E. Ilarvey, Richard Rathbone, C. E Rawlins,
Esqrs , Rev. Dr. Raffles, Dr. Hume, Dr. Thom, W. C.
Channing, Geo. Johnstone, Mr. John Smith, &c. &c.
Mr. J. lilueeesieux said : Ladies and gentlemen, I beg
to announce to you that Lord Bum:Guest has been re-
quested to take the chair, and has consented to do so.
Lord Bitouatesm, on rising, was received with an enthu-
siastic burst of applause He said: It gives ma very
unfeigned satisfaction to acknowledge to yon, with heart-
felt thanks, the great kindness with which you have
received me ; and which, I may add, is not confined
to those who are within these walls, for I have met with
the same kindness wherever I have been since my arrival
in Liverpool. We are met here upon a most important
occasion, •he opening of an institution, which is already
in progress of flourishing, aed which, I do most devoutly
hope, and, I would add, confidently e erect, will flourish
more and more every year of its existence. (Hear and
cheers ) When I came, twenty two years ago, to lay the
foundation of an institution in immediate connection with
the Queen's Col'ege—l mean the then-called Mechanics'
Institution, after wards the Liverpool Institution, I little
expected that I should live to see it to day, when it sh mid
be connected with a Collegiate establishment—that estab-
lishment connected with a University. (Cheers.) Now, were
I, at present, to dwell upon the advelvages of knowledge, the
inestimable benefits of education, I should be doing one
of the most useless things that it would be posssble f r a
man to bestow his lsboier upon For on education, in the
first place, as to the benefits of knowledge and education,
there is now-a-days happily nothing whetever new to be
said. Moreover all persons admit the benefits of educa-
tion, all or nearly all; and the few who still deny them,
may be said to be inconvertible. (Hear, hear.) Now is
is en old saying, that to preach to the converted is a
useless office ; and I would add that to preach to the
inconvertible is a thankless offiee. (Hear, hear.) I care-
fully therefore avoid addressing either class But now,
upon the inestimable advantages of this new Institution
buffer me to detain you for a iew moments. Liverpool has
been till now, what the great capital, London itself, was
until the year 1825 or 1820, wholly without the benefits
of a colleg ate astat lishmeet for educe' ion; here were certain
classes in the capital, as also in Liverpool, although per-
haps fewer in point of number, who educated their sons at
the Universities of Oxford and Cambridge ; in Ireland,
at Trinity College, Dublin ; and in Scotland.. I shall say
a word, however, afterwards, upon the Scottish colleges,
for they stand upon another footing. In London there
was, then, nothing for those who could not afford, or who
did not choose, to send their sons to Oxford or Cam•
bridge, there war no means of obtaining a good sound
education iu the classics or the sciences, including medical
science itself - there was nothing in the capital of teat
description. We then founded University College, which
was fur many years called the University of London.
Since that University was established, the University
College has been affilliated with it, as well as the King's
College, the younger sister of University College, `if she
may not rather be cal'ed the daughter, fur the one sprang
out of the other; and now University College in
the Metropolis affords the inestimable advantages
of a sound education cf ail description., classical
as well as scientific, to those who either choose not, or
afford not, to send their sons to ( txford or Cambridge.
I said a minute ago that I would postpone what I had to
observe respecting the Scottish colleges, and for this reason,
University Col:ege being chiefly intended to educate the
sons of persons residing in the town itself, was placed
naturally upon thy ?can't' rut). t, .la., rho 330 lubui b'- °at]
fl-lasgow colleges, ; the colleges of Aberdeen and St
Andrews, which educate the eons of persons resident upon
the spot, which are, as it were, day schools, giving the
inestimable adran'ages, not only iu point of economy, but
in point cf moral cultivation to the sons to reside under
the paternal roof, while they frequent the classes at the
college during the course of the day. Upcn that footing
mainly was the London establishment constructed. It
extends of course, the same advantages to those c ming
from the country, lent these are a very small number com-
pared with those who belong to London itself, and those
who come from the country, of ccurse, live in lodgings or
boarding-house.', as in Edinburgh or Glasgow. The great
bulk, however, living in their father's hotnss, have all the
advantage, in point of morals as well as of mere
economy, but the higher advantage in point of morals, cf
being under the eye and the superin•endence c f their pa-
rents, while they benefit by the instruction of their masters
in the ccurse of the day. Now, this is the plan of this
college, the Queen's College, which we are now assembled
to open. It will not refuse to receive those who beard or
lodge here, their parents not living in Liverpool, but the
bulk of those who attend it will naturally be the sons of
Liverpool parents, and enjoying the great advantages
to which I have just referred. Teat it could be cher wise
than eminently successful, I hold that it would be a slan-
der upon the people of Liverpool to entertain the slightest
doubt. (Hear, hear, and loud cheers.) Professors well
calculated to afford full instruction in all branches of letters
and of science. are ale ady engaged, hive begun, and have
actually opened, their classes, and, considering the short
time during which those classes have been opene4, had
considerable success; but a success which, I will venture
to say, will be as etehirg compared with whet, in
a very few years—l µould even say months
—will attend their useful and enlightened la-
bours. (Cheers.) I have sad, that connected with this
College is an institution which was opened twenty years
ago, and cf which I had the great honour of laying the
foundation stone at the time It began from small gin-
nings. I think so early as the year 1825, I believe it was.
it occupied a room, for evening classes only, in Parker-
street. Some time afterwards—a few years afterwards -
it was transferred to what is now the News-room and
Museum, in Slater-street ; and I cannot, even in passing,
name that news-room and that museum, which I have had
the great pleasure of inspecting this morning on my way
here—l cannot, even in passing, name them, without. in
the first place, expressing the gratification which I feel at
finding, that in that noble library of 2.2%000 volumes
—confined to the reading room, and not lent out —5OO or
6CO young men daily attend the reeding-room, 100 and
odd at a time being all the room can accommodate;
and that of the other rooms, the libraries connected
with the institution—namely, the two others having
bucks to the amount of, I think, 17,000 volutm.a, which
are lending libraries, upwards cf 1 200 volumes are issued
by the day to read - (hear, hear)--of which 1,200, it is
not estimating too highly to say that, not 1683 than four
readers benefit by every one of the 1,200 volumes which
are issued. (Hear, bear). And let me observe, and it is
a most gratifying circumstance, that when the lending
libraries were opened, instead of the other fallir g off, it
greatly increased the number of its readers. (Hear, hear)
But tlet, I cannot pass over, when I mention the news-
room, and the museum, and the library—l cannot pass
over another circumstance which the presence of my mots
esteemed and honourable friend, M'. Brown— (loud cheers)
—here would have suggested, had I not been aware of it
before ; but regarcVng which, his presence also imposes
restraints upon me in cxrressirg my feelings, which I
know are all your feehngs, with respect to his noble and
wise, as well as noble munificence. (Cries cf hear, hear,
and prolonged applause.) Now, connected with this
Mechanics' Institute, or now called Liverpool Institute,

which numbers, as I understand, at this moment, upon an
average, 1,400 members ; I rejoice to find that it is eelf-
euppor;ing. (Cheers) So much could not have been
predicted of the small beginning to which I have adverted
in Parker-street, and Slater-street, before the year 1835, or
before the year 1837, when the new institution was opened ;
bat ever since that, save and except with respect to a debt
of moderate amount, now paying off by subscription*— but
save and except that debt, the whole of that institution is
supported in all its expenses by the payments of those who

* His Lordship was under a misunderstanding in this
particular. We are authoriratively informed that the
Institution is entirely self supporting, and although it is
not wholly cut of debt yet, during the last three years
its surplus increase over expenditure, has so greatly
improved its position, and it is now altogether so flourish-
ing in all i:s operations, that in a year or two, without any
grßtititous support it is expected it will be quits free from

benefit by it. I will n t enter into particulars except upon
two points, and the one is, that there are receiving the
benefits of instruction in that institution, but paying for it
—there are somewhere about 500 persons, the greater part
or almost the wh, le of whom are mechanics and artisans,
persons living by daily or weekly wages —(cheers)—a great
benefit, no doubt, to them, a great benefit to their em-
pluyers, a great benefit to the town and society of which
th, y are members ;:but there are else,"no di nht, defects, to
be ob erved. Five hundred for Liverpool it tee small a
number. and I cot fidensly hope, that if I shall be spered
to visit Liverpool, a year or two hence —(cheers) —I sendl
find that 500 more than doubled. (sear, hear) Tier,
there has been by my friend. Mr. Holt, established a girls'
school - (cheers) —which is of the greatest possible advan-
tage to those persons of their station in life, who ace there
educated. I only wish it were possible that I could add
that I saw any immediate prospect of another kind of
school for the bet efit cf persons of an humbler rank in life,—
(cheers)—and to be taught, not needle-work not embroidery
—not arts of that de: cription, which, however ornamental,
to a car air degree useful, in some respect, as society is now
cones ituted, almsst Necessary, yet do not come in the room
of what I have in my eye, namely, the learning of
ordinary common things, so as to qualify such
poor girls far being domestic servants (Hear, hear ) At
a late conference which I attended officially, I may say, es
the president cf the cstablishment—l mean at Birmingham
—we had a most important, bat florist painful—l will add,
a most heart-tending paper read, by one of the most
eminent London medical men, I mean Dr Acton, who
clearly showed what frightful effects upon the morals of
that class of society are produced, by the parents not stoop-
it g to let them he taught ordinary things, so as to make
them fit for being domestic et rvants, but must need teach
them needle-work, to stave on 31. a-day —(cheers)— to
struggle fir a few months, and, in some heart--ending
cases, even for a year or two, with that utterly inadequate
payment for their support, and, sometimes, for the support
of a child an infant, or a parent ; and who are in the end,
in spite of themselves, and by sheer hunger, driven into
profl;gate courses. (Hear, hear.) Now, if instead of
teaching them those things, they were taught those ordi-
nary rt a to s of cookery, washing, aid dome:tic manage.
ment, which would qualify those poor girls to bo domestic
servant., two consequences would happen —there would no
longer be that difficulty, now universal y complained of,
both in town and country—in large towns like this, and in
the capital itself—that difficulty of obtaining domestic
servants ; but that is the least of it. We could submit
to that, bad as it is, but there would be an and—there
would be a cutting off of that great source, which Dr.
Acton has so justly, and without the slightest exaggeration,
described that great source of the immorality of young
women in London (Hear, hear) I wish to detain you as
little as I po siMy can —(cheers) —for there is no hing
more useless than a declamatory harangue or speech.
when there is something t) be done more to the point and
more prac'ical, and so I have fe't it my duty to dwell upon
one or two of these particulars, to which I will now add
one other, becau-e I had the opportunity of finding, the
day before yesterday, when at Leeds, how abs,lutely
necessary it was that attention should be paid to it
—I refer as intimately, inseparably, connected with
their education —1 refer to the important chapter
f early closing—(cheers)—and those in whose hands that
question may be said t-t rest, are, in the fist place, the
employers of young people, those employers being either
shopkeepers or manufacturers, and in the next place
another class to whom I shall p-esen-ly advert, who have
it equally in their power to deal eflletually with that
subject. Now, as to manCacturers, far indeed be it from
me to insist upon their dismissing their workmen and
young work people after twelve hours rather than thirteen
hours' employment, or after fourteen hours rather than
fifteen hours, because they may answer me ard say there
are two things of which men are extremely generous —the
ono is their own advice, and the teller is other people's
money—(laughter) ; and getterelly speaking, it is too trite ;
but soil I cannot help thinkirg that it is the duty of such
master manufacturers, so far as they can, to lessen the
number of hours that their poor young people are employed
under them. I would not have them do it all at once;
but supp;se that the time o' those employed for fifteen
hours, was reduc, d to fourteen hours this year giving them
fair notice, that if they did not work harder durit g those
fourteen hours, it would become fifteen hours again in the
year after; or that the time of those employed fourteen
hours, was reduced to thirteen ; or of those employed
thirteen hours, to twelve hour-, for one year, with the
same warning given to them that I have suggested in the
other case, and if it were found that that was successful,
ar-d that she empl yers could do it sanely to themselves, by
finding that less time was wasted in listlessness, and more
effort made in work—if they found in such a case that
they had no material loss (I do not require them to sustain
any loss at all, for I go by the proverb of other people's
money and our own advice, which I have mentioned),
then I think that in the end we would find that
even in respect to manufacturers and manufac-
turing. this nrohlern 'ha soured (OhpAra
But now I come to that about which there can
be no doubt, and to which the proverb dces not apply. I
come to the class of shopkeepers. The bulk cf the com-
plaint is, that young people are br-night to the shop at
seven o'clock in the morning, and instead of being dis-
missed at seven o'clock at night, afar twelve hours' labour,
they are kept cn until nine and ten o'clock at night, after
which time is it possible they can go to school ? Is any
school open for them at such an hour, er, if it were, could
they go there Is it possible, even, that they can think of
reading, much less cf education, when they are exhausted
after fifteen h urs' hard work and fatigue; for though the
work is not hard, the fatigue of standing in the shop is just
as much as if they wee working the whole time ? (Hear,
hear.) No, they are only fit to go to bed and to think of
nothing else. (Hear, hear.) I said t• ere was another
class in whose hands this question rested as much as in the
former case it rested with the employers, and that is, the
customers of the shopkeepers (Hear, hear.) Why can-
not they go and buy whatever they have to buy at an
earlier hour, and enable the shopkeeper to dismiss his
young people and to shut up his shop? (Hear, hear )
There was great objection made in London to the half-
holiday on Saturday, because, " Oh," they all salt, " we
cannot shot np—we must keep our shop open until night,
because we have customers coming ir." However, they
were defeated ; they shut up their shops, the half-holiday
is now universal, and they will admit that they do not lose
one tingle halfpenny. (Cheers.) That is not enough for
me, however - that half-holiday on Sa urday. I want one
hour or two given to them every night ; and if customers
would only act rationally and benevolently (and of benevo-
lence I make very small account indeed, unless it is benefi-
cence as well as benevolence )—if they would act as if they
meant not only to wish well, but to do well and do good,
they would come at an early hour, and enable the shop-
keeper to dismiss his young people. (hear, and cheers).
I said a little while ago that upon the subject of know-
ledge and of education there was nothing new to be said.
I must, however, fora moment retract that statement. Of
the difference between mu ducated, uncultivated, barbarous
men, and educated and civilized men, we have had,
unhappily, of late years, nay, of late month., a most
frightful sample in our Eastern possessions. Those whom
we call friends in the disguise of men, and justly so call,
are a striking, aye, sarightful illustration of the evils of
force and po.‘ er, and the arts cf destruction, which you
have taught them, being in the hands of men who are not
educated, who are not humanized by civilization
(Applause ) See what have bten the results! See the
frightful, the hideous scenes which have arisen from etreh
men in the possession of such force. Frightful, indeed,
to contemplate, almost impossible to allow to pess through
one's mind. These c, eettires are the subjects of Princes,
who arrogate to themselves, vainly arrogate to
themselves, a title to which they have no right
--the title of Foes, fet one calls himself 11einjeet
:Sing, or Lion Runjeet; that is their Pastern Va> ity
and their Eas ern falsehood and hand, for they
have no title to ala ,der the animal by assuming his name.
(Hear, and loud cheers) The rage of the lion is noble
compared with theirs. (Cheers.) There is another enimel
by whose name they may call themselves. Let them call
themselves tiger and not lion, for the lion only puts to
death his victim by his instinct, but the tiger tortures him,
torments him before he releases him by death from the
torments which have made life not to be endured. (Loud
cheers.) Shall all this be passed over when the mutiny is
put down ? No, I say no, and the voice of all the civilised
world echoes the negative. (Great cheering.) I speak
not of revenge—(cheers) -- for we are Christians—(re-
newed chee.s)—but I spe.ak of retribution, discriminating
retribntions for we arejust, and of the wholesome examp'e
of punishment, for we are politic and wise. (Groat cheering).
That all this may end better than it has begun—worse it
could not—that all the evil may be got rid of, and
may lead to our, I will not say better governing,
but more wisely and discriminately administering
oar affairs in the East, is my sanguine hope and con-
fident expectation—that it may lead to extending to those
ciasses the benefits of education, which they so greatly
want, and showing them, without the slightest attempt at
intolerant interference with•their faith, showing them that
at least we are not ashamed of our own—(cheers) - and
that we shall set them au example, at least, if we cannot

give them instruction, in religious dutios and Christiau
morality. (Cheers.) I hive now to thank you, once more,
for the great kindness with which you have received me
this day, to repeat my earnest hope and my best good wishes
for the unlimited prosperity of this Institution, and to ox.
press my hope and trust, that either I, or those who come
after me, may, in a very few years see with delight, with
exultation and delight, that it has not been founded in
vain. (Enthusiastic applause).
Mr. eixoaos HOLT then came forward and said : Before
expressingour grateful acknowledgments to Lc rd Brougham

for the great services he has rendered to this meeting, to
the insti ution, and to the town at large, a resolution has
been put into my hands through which this meeting will
do itself the satitlactirn of expressing its pleasure acd
congratulating the town of feiveypeol upon the auspieious
establishment of the Queen's C.llege (Chee7s.)
would be presumptuous in me, or perhaps in any one--
but, ho-sever, I shall on'y speak for myse;f—(laughtor)—
to attempt making any cerement upon the resolution which
has been placed in my hands It is to this effect —" That
this meeting congratulates the public upon the aecession
to the town of so valueb'e an institution as the Queen's Col-
lege, and heartily wishes it every possible success " When I
move this resolirion, at the request of the committee and
the directors, I know that we are, one and all, animated
by the same firm conviction thee, in assisting at the
eqablishment of the Queen's College, we ate realising,
in its degree, the same principle upon waich the Mechanics'
Institution was foundei. That principle had for the
object of its desire to serve the cause of the people,
to open a way by c titivation and the acquirement of
knowledge and leatnin; to the various professions of life,
and to place within the reach of each individual who had
the ability to seize it, the opportunity of prepseing hiteise!f
to serve society and his cauntry when called upon I
have, therefore, much pleasure in proposing this resolu
tion.

Mr. HENRY Boom, in a few words, seconded the
resolution.
The CHAIRMAN put the resolution, which was carriad by
aceamat ion.
Mr. BdOWN, M.P., rose, and was received with Lud
applause. lie said : Ladies and gentlemen, in order to
promote, so far as lies in my power, the object which we
have in v ew in the establishment of the Queen's Ccllege
upon the broadest possible basis, I took the liberty of
writing to many gentlemen, who. I knew, were friends of
education, and 1 have a number of letters in my hand from
them expressing their strong desire to co operate wi'h us in
the object we have in view. I may take the liberty of read-
ing one or two. They are two numerous to read them all ;
but there is a very marked distinction between them and
ordinary refusals to accept an invi ation, which generally
only say that the invited parties are " sorry that an engage-
' meat prevents us." (Cheers and laugher) But here,
upon this occasion, there is not one of the writers who
has not assigned a cause for his absence which it was im-
possible for Him to get over. The following reply I have
received from the Bishop of Manchester :
Manchester, 28th Oct. 1857.
My dear Sir,—l regret to say I shall be unable to accept
your most kind invitation, as I am engaged to distribute the
prizes at the Burnley Mechanics' Institution to the
students of the Eas; Lancashire Union, on Wednesday,
the 4th, and shall not be able to return till the following
day. Your proceeding has my best and wannest wishes
for success. I hope Churchmen :sill ever unite with
Dissenters when the objects are such as you advocate.
I beg you will present my sincere respects to Mrs.
Brown, and with much esteem and rega-d, I remain, ever
yours nost truly, ( signed) J. P. MANCHESTER
To Win. Brown, Esq., M.P.
Lord Stanley thus writes :

Knowsley, 29 h Oct., 1857.
My dear Sir,—l wish I could accept your invitation for
the 4th, and attend the meeting of next day, when the
College is opened ; unfortunately, I am prevented from
d ,ing either, and by the same cause—Quarter Sessions.
We have a dinner of the leer and bench on Wednesday the
4th, where I must he present, and the court w 11 sit on the
sth ; I apprehend from 10 arn, to 0 p.m With all good
wishes for success of Cie ceremony, believe in my dear
sir, very faithfully pure, (Signed,) STANLEY.
To William Brown, Esq., M P.
I have also received letters of apology, assigning various
causes, but to the same effect as regards the wises of the
writers for our success, front the Earl of Sefton, the Earl
Granville, Sir Thomas B Birch, Bart; sir John Pakiugton,
Bart; Mr. Ewart, M.P. ; Str Edward Cost, Bart ; Colonel
J. Wileon Patten, M.P.; W. E. Glaistone M P., and the
Bishop of Chester. However, to proceed o the immediate
object I have in view, I beg leave to propose a vote of
thanks to the noble Lord who has done us the
favor to be p esent upon this occasion. (Loud
cheers.) The Carthagsniaes, when any of their
great men or their king= paid the debt of nature, sutnmone I
a jury to inquire into his character during his life, and if
his character was found to be good, th y erected a moon •
ment to the man, bu if it was bad, they threw him into
oblivion as soon as possible Now, the nation has sat as a
jury upon the noble Lord who is now at my left, and pro-
nounced a verd ct that faithful history will raise him a
mcnument, in the acquisition of which any man might
glory. (Cheers.) He hag, for the last forty years of his
life, made areal exertions in order to spread knowledge,
and induce those wno nave the charge of schools, Etna those
who have the means of influencing the public mind, to
extend knowledge among the great masses of the commu-
nity. (Hear, hear.) We all know that he has been emi-
nently successful. (Cheers.) The other day he presided,
as he has told us, at a meeting in Birmingham for the
establishment of a universal society for the same object.
I was exceedingly glad to bear it drop from him that he
lived to live many years, which we all most anxiously
desire, and to be able to preside over the same society
when it comes to Liverpool, as I trust it may, next
ear. I can assure him that we will receive the society
with a hearty welcome, and that it will give us the greatest
possible pleasure an i gratification to tee a society so pre-
sided over, which is likely to be so useful, not only to
Great Britain, but I may say to the whole civilised world.
(Cheers.) if his ordehip were not present—as he has
said in reference to another individual— I could say a great
dea', but lamsue it is not necessary. His public acts,
his public worth, recommend him as one of the most
valued subjects of her Mejesty, one of the most trust-
worthy and most successful advec 'fess ofthe people's cause.
(Cheers.) lam ewe that I should very much fatigue you
and waste your time unnecessarily if I detained you a
moment longer After hearing the noble Lord's speech,
anphing else would be very dry and very tame, and I
shall therefore conclude by simply moving that we now
return our warmest and best than. s to his Lordship for
honouring us with his presence upon :his occasion. (Lund
Cheers.)
Me. JAMES Muteexereux said that, in supporting the
resolution, he dare not, in the presence of Lord Brougham,
venture to express the deep feeling of respect, admiration,
and love which he entertained towards that distinguished
nobleman for the eminent services he had rendered not
only to this c mmunity, but to his country, and to man-
kind. He would, therefore, of ly briefly second the reso-
lution, and ask them to pass it by acclamation. (Cheers )
The resolution was paned amid the most enthusiastic
cheering.
Lord Baoucuram said : You will at once perceive how
needless it is for me to exp. ess my hearty thanks for your
great kindness, but I mast say that it mortifies and hum-
bles me to think how very, very mu .h lees I have I een ab e
even to attempt Than I could have wished ; but as to ucrets
, —I almost entirely deny that any material success has at-
tended the efforts that I, engaged with others w s r, better
and abler than myself in the cause, have been able to make
in beha f even of the great cause of popular education. In
come things we have succeeded. We have obtained for
the people, as my honourable friend near rue has said— we
have obtained some material rights for the people. I Only
hope that the people will show their sense of those rights
which have been bes'owed upon them by continuing well to
exercise them—(hear, hea-)---ly choosing good and useful
renresentevires for example. (Cheers) I know that is ono
c:ase of rights which have b en btained for the people, and
by devoting themselves and their children to instruction,
y carding their childrsn to frequent schools, and by all
ranks even the humblest, taking advantage of the means of
instruction which are now largely, I will say lavishly,
provided for them all over the country. (Cheers.) I
cannot recellect that I am now standing in Liverpool
without expressing my infinite gratification at the very
whit lesome change which I find to hive been produced in
the diminution of the rancorous spirit of party both in
Church and State. (Loud cheers.) I could hardly believe
that I am in Liverpool now, such as I remember Liverpool,
I am sorry to say, five-and-forty years ago (_rest
leeught er)—but upcn another ground I will
venture to express my extreme gratification.
Observe, I say nothing against party, if it is honest, if it is
upon principle, if men combine together becaus=e they
have really and honestly certain opinion* which they really
hold, arid do not take op for the sake of party purposes and
as counters, as it were, to play a party game with, but
because they honestly and conscientiously bold those
opinions, one side oiffering from anothe--to diet kind of
honest and legitimate party no man objects less than I do.
But it is to the bad spirit of faction, with all its profligacy,
with all its falsehood, and above all, with all its acrimony
and virulence—it is to that that I object, and is the ex-
tinction of that in which I rejoice. (Loud cheers.) One
word m re as to a cause in which I, and those with whom
I have been a fellow labourer, for 40, 50, or even 60 years
I may say—as to that cause there has been the most
entire success ; and although I speak in Liverpool, which
was once the seat of the infernal African slave trade,
it
and is to me a matter of unspeakable de ight
exultation, which I cannot suppt as
ns withinven
my bosom, that I have lived to see ot
the shadow of a shade of holding by that execrab'e traffic. (Loud cheers.) Let us hope that the planter-party will no
longer exercise an influence, not merely to be deplored
but to be reprobated, over! certa n potentates with
whom we are in alliance, and of whom I wish to speak

with the greatest respect. I g ieve to find, Vint what I
predicted in the House of Lords last July. of the ridiculous
pre!ext of encourag'ng the emigration, as it was called, of
free African lab cur, which was a revival of the African
slave trade—l grieve to see, but lam not surprised to find,
that what I then ire;tinted has been more than realised,
and that the innocent, the useful, and the civilising com•
memo of Africa is for the present suspended by that
speculation. (Cheers.) I h)pe and trust that there will
speedily be an end to it ; but I could never have rested in
pE;ace if I had not lifted Lay voice in Liverpool, as I did
in the House of Lords, to denounce that which I call,
not an ab -..mination—far from it----but a delusion prevailing
elsewhere. (Loud cheers.)
The proceedings then terminated.

DOCK COMMITTEE.

The weekly meeting of the Dock Committee was
yesterday, Charles Turner, E-q., in the chair ; the other
members present were Messrs. Brocklebank, Bold, Holden,
Anderson, Mondell, Gladstone, Rounthwaite, Robinson
Holme, Clint, Smith, and Rathbone.
THE CROSBY LIGHT.
The Marine Department of the Sub-committee of works,
reported that complaints having been made of the defective
condition of the Crosby light, they had caused another
light to be put up, whereby there would be an additional
reflection.
ME. GLADSTONE said, it was of importance that the im-
provement should be mtde public.
THE CHAIRMAN said there was no change whatever in the
po.ition of the light, the only effect of the altera ion was,
that the light would be str_nger.
THE LIVERPOOL OFFICE IN LONDON.
THE CHAIRMAN said, that Mr. Bushed and Mr. Cook
wore in attendance, as a deputation from the Chamber of
Commerce, on the question of the Liverpool office in
London.
The deputation were then introduced, and Mr. Busl- ell
stated to the committee, that the Chamber of Commerce
and the various commercial associations were desirous that
the Liverpool office in London, which had hitherto been
managed by the late Mr. Wainright, should be continued.
The various mercantile bodies had appointed sub-com-
mittees to consider the question, and they a'l concurred
frith the Chamber in the opinion that the office, in some
shape or other, should be continued. It was thought that,
as an act of justice to our borough members, they ought
not to be left without an office in London, for every one
knew, who had any experience on the question, that an
immense amount of labour was thrown on the members,
more than applied to the members for almost any other
borough. It was therefore considered desirable that there
should be an office in Lend:in, where the members should
be able to communicate with different parties on the
general business appe taining to the bot ough. The different
associations having - greed with the Chamber of Commerce
to contribute towards the support of the office,it was thought
desirable, before taking any decisive steps, to ascertain
whether the Dock Committee considered it advi.,able to
contribute, the committee being, as the Chamber believed,
deei ly interested in the continuance of the office.
Afrer some discussion on the point,
The CHAIRMAN said that the subject should have the
fullest consideration of the committee, and they would
communicate their decision to the Chamber.
The deputation then retired.
DOCK FINES.

On the
.motion of Mr. Rathbone, the report of the tub-
committee on the Dock Fines was referred to the solicitor
to prepare the elauees, and report again to the committee
DOCK AND GRAVING DOCK ACCCMMOI/ATION AT LIVERPOOL
The CHAIRMAN said, the next business of the meeting
was the report of the sub committee, appointed to con-
sider the question of the extension of dock accommodation
at Liverpool
The report of the sub-committee, which was read by
the chairman, was as follows :
"At a meeting of the special sub committee, on piens
of dock extension, held this 31st day of October, 1857
present, Mr. Ralph B ocklebank, chairman,—this special
sub committee, being desirous of enabling the New Trust
to further consider the best means of increasiug dock
accommodation, and finding that it is unnecessary to
specify any particular works, and having as referred to
them by the general committee on the 29th instant,
taken into consideration the general question of
dock and g av'ng dock accommodation, together
with the memorials and communications from mercantile
associafons, merchants, shipowners, and other parties,
representing the necessity of increased deck and quay
accommodation on the Liverpool side of the Mersey, in
addition to the quay and water space now in course of
construction at Birkenhead, are of opinion that instead of
the roc emmen lation of the sth instant, the notices of ap-
plying to Parliament in the next session should include
powers to borrow a sum of £866,000 for extensions and
improvement cf dock and quay accommodation on the
Liverpool side cf the river."
Now, bearing udon that question, they hai had a commu-
nication that morning from Mr. Nichol, who was chairman
of a meeting held at Manchester yesterday. The letter
was addressed to himself, as chairman of the Dock Trust.
[The chairman here read the letter from Mr. Nicholl,
which was accompanied by a copy of the resolutions,
which he also read, passed at the meeting at Manchester,
and which appeared in the NORTHERN TIMES of
yesterday.] The chairman, in continuation, said that
the question referred to in Mr. Nicholl's letter,
and the resolutions that accompanied it, was entirely,
beyond the control, i t ary shape or way, of the Dock Com-
mittee. It was a question whisl was at present entirely
in the hands of the Corporation of Liverpool, and it would
not coma under the cognizance of the Dick Committee
until the let of January next, and, therefore, it was quite
eeres.tete eree— —.al.
in which they could deal with it was to send the letter
and the resolutions to the Corporation.
Mr. BROCKLEBANK said that a copy of the resolutions
seemed already to have been forwarded to the Corporation,
as well as to the Dock Committee.
Mr. RATIIB9NE considered it was altogether a strange
document.
The Cse.rastees said he was sure that if the parties at
Manchester really knew the feelings of that Committee, they
would not say what the resolutions alleged, as to the desire
of the Committee to keep back the Birkenhead works.
He (the chairman) could say on the part of that committee,
that there was a most earnest desire—and he believed he
might say the same on the part of the Corporation of
Liverpool—there was a most earnest desire to complete
the Birkenhead works entirely, in the best and most effi-
cient manner possible; and he was convinced also that it
was the most anxious wish of all the authorities in Liver-
pool, that the Birkenhead works should be fully developed
in a manner the most effectual to provide for the trade of
the district. (Hear, hear )
Mr JAMES /ICLMIC said, that yesterday ho hai occasion
to be in Manchester on railway business, and when he
entered the Beard room, he was shown a paragraph which
appeared in one of the Manchester newspapers, on
the qiestion of dock extension. On reading that
paragraph, he thought it advisable to go to the Town
Hall at Manchester, where the meeting was then
being held, because he considered that the most
straigh:f e-ward and fairest way for those who we o holding
the meeting to have pursued wou'd have been, to have
invited the Liverpool authorities to attend the meeting.
As it was, the Manchester pas ties had it all their ewn way.
On arriveng at the town-hall, he sent into th-: room for Mr.
James Aspinall Turner, the member for Manchester, and
also for the chairman of the meeting. Those gentlemen
came out to him, and he thought it his duty to inform thorn
that he considered it most unfair for such statements to be
made without the Liverpool authorities bring present. It
ended in this, that he (Mr. Holme) stated to them, that if
they would send a deputation to the Dock Committee, to
receive information on the subject, the committee would
only be too glad to see them. (Hear, hear.) It would,
perhaps, be out of place, on the present occasion,
to go fully into a question of such vast importance
as this was, but he was quite prepared to do so. When it
was stated by these parties at Manchester that wo have
expended 17,000,000 on further dock extension at Liver-
pool, he begged to say it was not to. Mr. Hartley had in-
formed him that they had expended on the north works the
sum of £232,000. Tony had expended up to the end cf
June £182,000, and, therefore those statements ought not
to go out uncontradicted. (Hear, hear.) What object
could the Committee or the Corporation of Liverpool have
in spending the d ck funds improperly, and in a manner
that was not calculated to benefit the trade of the port ?
( Hear, hear) While he ag-eel that they would be mad-
men to atop or impede the works at Birkenhead, which had
already cost such a large sum of money, he would, at the
same time, say that it would be equal madness to stop the
works on the Liverpool side. What had the Great Western,
or the Birkenhead and Cheshire Junction Company done
that they should set themselves up as the best judges of
what was best to provide for the requirements of the
port? He thought it was highly necessary for the Dock
Committee to set i self right with the commercial men of
Manchester, and show them by figures that the money
they were spending in giting dock accommodation was
really for the benefit of the commercial community.
(Hear, hear).
Mr BROCKLEB sic believed that the reason why some
porti ns of the Birkenhead docks were temporarily sus-
pendtd WAS, that it was considered M.. Rendeles plans
were not the best; and Mr. La,rd himself, ho believed, said
so ; and that other plans which had been prepared would
have been found to h. better ; that was the real reason
why the works at Birkenhead had been stopped.
Mr, SMITH a-ked, was it not a fact that the contract for
the works on the upper part of the pool at Birkenhead wets
going forward, and that, in fact, the works were nearly
completed.

The CHAIRMAN was understood to reply in the affir-
mative

Mr. SMITII continued : One of the complaints made
by those parties was, that nothinb had been done
with reference to the outworks Now, on this part of the
question, Mr. Hartley and Mr. Brunel agreed on certain
plans with respsct to the outworks, which were considered
better than Mr. Rendell's plans.
Mr. BOLD considered that the committee had nothing to
do with the matter. All the discussion, if it was to be
discussed, should take place with the Corporation.
Mr. Smrrn begged to differ with Mr. Bold. The parties
brought charges against this committee as well as against
the Corporation. He would ask these gentlemen what it
was that they found fault wi!h? It could not be that it