Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-11-10 00:00:00

)URTS OF LAW COMMITTEE

Alolerman J. H. TURNER moved the following names
on this committee :—Messrs. J. H. Turner, John
Stewart, James A. Picton, James Parker, Samuel

Holme, William Earle, Thomas Littledale, Thomas
Avison, and Mr. J. B. Lloyd in the place of Mr. J.
Bramley-Moore who was a member of the committee

last year.

suggested that the Law Courts
Committee might be amalgamated with the Town-hall
Committee. Mr. Jeffery was proceeding to disChss the
question of party politics, when—
Mr. WM. EARLE ,suggested that short speeches would
meet with the approval of the Council.
Mr. JEFFERY said Mr. Earle must not talk to him
now as he had been in the habit of doing hitherto. If

M. J. R. J

Mr. Earle did so then he (Mr. Jeffery)'lVoald meet him
in a way very different to that NV hi ch he had hitherto

met him-

ifter a lengthy discussion, during which the Mayor
mes ruled Mr. Jeffery out of order,
Y moved, and Mr. STITT seconded, that
doore be elected instead of Mr. Lloyd.
ion Mr. Lloyd was appointed by a majority

Mr. Bramley--
On a d

of sixtc

MARKETS CO'MMITTE

-"fr. JoimsoN moved, and Alderman Coorral. seconded,
oodruff be a member of this committee.
KWITH said, after the recent votes of the
should have thought that a committee of

Counci
entirel

nen would have been appointed

Mr. JETTEFY regretted that Mr. Graves was not in
his place, for, feeling a great interest in this question, he
had consulted several gentlemen in the room, and had
discussed the propriety of re-constituting the com-
mittee, because the 'Council had declared, and he be-
lieved the public out of doors held the opinion, that they
could have no confidence in the late Markets Com-
mittee.

Mr. H

Mr. JEI

TN—No, no.
ERY hoped no gentleman TT

Duld take the

remark in a personal light.
Mr. HOLDEN-But I do take it as personal, sir

Mr. RIDLEY rose, in the absence of Mr. Graves, to
move the reconstruction of the Markets , Committee,
without intending any disrespect to the retiring mem-
bers. The committee, it would appear, had not done
all that the Council expected from them, although the
committee had done all that it was in their power to do.
(Hear, hear.) The manner in which the plan for a
new wholesale market, as propounded by the committee,
was received by the Council, clearly showed a want of
confidence in them; and it would, therefore, be for
the benefit of the town, and for the convenience
of the Council, if a new committee were appointed.
His intention was to propose the following gentlemen,
who, with the exception of Mr. Slid and. Mr. Farn-
worth, were gentlemen entirely unconnected heretofore
with the Markets Committee :—Messrs. Aikin, Nick-
son, Wilson, Estill, Hutchison Beloe, Horsfall, Job,
Cropper, Farnworth, Shiel,,Crel\in, and Rodgers. He
would move, as an amendment, the name of Mr. John
Aikin. .

Alderman PARKER denied that the recent decisions of
the Council on the question of providing• a wholesale
market could be construed into votes of censure upon
the Markets Committee of that day.

Mr. WoonnuFF said it was immaterial to him what
portion of the work the Council thought proper to
confer upon him. The Markets Committee, until the
last two divisions on the question of providing a whole-
sale market, had been supported by a larger majority of
the Council than any other committee; and on those
two occasions the Council differed with the committee,
feeling that a question involving an outlay of £45,000
should be referred for the consideration of the new
Council, the old Council at that time being about to
expire. He (Mr. Woodruff) had been a member of the
Markets Committee for the period of twelve years,
and he could defy any. one to point to a single vote
that he had given during that time, and say that it
had been dictated by party considerations, or that it was
contrary to the interests of the town at large. With refe-
rence to the re-constitution of the Committee, he thought
it would be exceedingly unwise to hand over the manage-
ment of the market estate to five or six new members of
the Council. There was a surplus of over £5,000 a-year
from that estate, and the continuance of that degree of
prosperity mainly depended upon the seivices rendered
by members who had been on the committee previously,
and who knew the working of the markets. But, whilst
he said this, he would not wish to be understood as
having any objection whatever to an infusion of new
blood into, the committee. All that he protested against
was the adoption of the very unwise step of placing the
management of the markets in the hands of necessarily
inexperienced persons.
Mr. BowniNG seconded Mr. Ridley's amendment.
Alderman BENNETT thought it would be a most un-
gracious thing to attempt to remodel the Markets Com-
mittee, against whom there was no ground for com-
plaint.
Mr. *JOB thought the vote given at the last meeting
of the Council was a very significant one, and he was
not astonished at gentlemen consequently seeking to
• reconstitute the Markets Committee. He believed that
a remodelling of that committee was demanded by the
public interest, and that unless that were conceded
nothing but dissatisfaction would ensue during the pre-
sent municipal year.
On a division there appeared for Mr. Woodruff 15
votes, and for Mr. Aikin 13 votes. The former gentle-
man was declared duly elected a member of the Markets
Committee. -4

Mr. JOHNSON moved that Alderman Raymond W.
Houghton be a member of the committee.
Mr. RIDLEY proposed as an amendment the name of
Mr. Nickson. _ _

Mr. Houghton was elected by 31 votes to 16.
Mr. RIDLEY said he had given the Council a fair
opportunity of testing the question, and after the two
divisions just had, he should withdraw the remaining
names orf his list. (Hear, hear and applause.)
Mr. JOHNSON moved, and it was agreed to, that
Messrs. Holden, Haydock, Ridley, Shimmin, Nickson,
Lloyd, Rodgers, Barton, Cropper, and Johnson should
be members of the committee.

On the motion of Mr. CLINT, seconded by Mr.
Smrmmix, Mr. Kitchen was added to the committee.
It being how twenty minutes to five, MR. GLAD-
STONE moved the adjournment of the Council ; but on
a division the motion was lost, 30 votes against to 20 for.

EDUCATION COMMITTEE.
Alderman GARDNER moved the re-election of the
following gentlemen on this committee—viz, Messrs.
Wagstaff, Jeffreys, Robertson, Crosthwaite, Kitchen,
Clint, Hutchison, Cropper, and Ridley.
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