Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-02-10 00:00:00

GAOL COMMITTEE

The proceedings of the gaol committee were read,
but contained nothing calling for special notice.

TOWN HALL COMMITTEE

proccedin

)f this committee contained a recom-
the tender of Mr. Joseph Bretherton,

;es, and prove
£440 per annum
I' tuner moved
,the confirmation of the
the adoption of the recommendation.
i seconded the motion.

le men and

proebedings,
Mr. irougi
Mr. Crone(

aid, before the

he would nirov

i it be an instruction from that council

to the town-

hall committee that they in future strictly
adhere to the requirements of the Chimney Sweeper's
Act,. 3 and 4 Vic.; cap. 85, enacted for the prevention of
boys going up flues for the purpose of sweeping them.
At the last monthly meeting of the council he (Mr.
Cropper) read an extract from a newspaper, stating that
the chimneys of the town-hall were swept by boys. He
would therefore beg to move that this instruction be
entered on the books.

Mr. Johnson seconded the motion. •
Mr. Jeffery thought they should not stultify themselves
by putting such a resolution on the books. Such
record, he considered, would be highly

discreditabl

council

to iii as a body
_„red tho committee mere perfectly competent
the law in future without such an instruction,

) they Might have done something con:

trarftci the strict laiv

Alderman par

id, as they were 1

makers, they
He had

must not

nselves law-breakers

no objection to t

rescatition, but he tho

on the books was•alto

kr. Turner said, if the suggestions of the surveyor

were carried out.

reference to the alterations of sOm

of the chimnies,

iere , could be no nec

ity for Mr

Cropper's motion

Mi. Beckwith said he would like to know whether any
children had been employed in sweeping these chimnics.
For his part, he did not see any necessity
.whatevFr of
adding this motion to the proceedings, because, if the
resolution of the council was properly carried out, and
if the ehimnies were altered as suggested by the surveyor,
in order that they might be swept by nechines, then
such a motion was useless.
Mr. Job said it would not be proper to instruct any
committee to obey the law. It was not an old or an
obsolete law, and he was sure the hall committee were
ready to obey it without any such instruction..
Mr. Cropper said, they had broken the law, and he did
not think they would be stultifying themselves by
instructing the. committee to obey it in future.
.Mr. Jeffery said, he had no objection to that, but he
objected to a record being made of it on thei‘r books.
peared—
The matter was then put to a vote, when there ap-
_.

For the motion : Alderman Dover ; Councillors John-
son. and Cropper.---3..
Anoint

Me Mayor ; Aldermen Chilton, Bennett
Bold, Parker, Turner, lieughtou; Councillors Anderson;
Woodruff, Crellin, Shell, Shimmiri, Corbally, Holden,
Steains, Rae, Jeffreys, Ridley, Tobin' Job, Earle, Jeffery,
Hodson, Beckwith, Aikin, Farnworth, Anthony.-27.
The Mayor declared the motion lost by a majority of
. -

Mr. V
tender a

I a question with reference to th

for horsing the Mayor's carriage, whether
it was advertised or, obtained by vote; and if it was the
lowest tender that was accepted ?
The Mayor stilted, that it was obtained 'by vote, and
that the lowest tender was accepted. The highest tender
was £620, and the lowest £440.
- The proceedings were then confirmed.

TUE MUSEUM AND GARDENS. COMVITTEE.
The proceedings, resolutions, and reports of the gardens,
library and museum committee were read, and comprised:
1. The laving of a rate under the provisions of " The
Liverpool Library and Museum Act. 1852."
2 Recommendation to lay out £lOO, instead of £5O
previously named,
an for the alterations required at the
Mount Gardens; d also the appointment of Mr.

Burdhell as superintendent of tho gardens, in the place
of Mr. Shepherd, deceased.
Mr.. Beckwith .. said, he bed to move the adop-
tion to the report of this tommittee, and that they
be confirmed. lie believed.that the adoption of the rate
had been carried at the' lagt '-nieeting of the Council, and
therefore it was unnecessary for him
,to speak on the

subject. -
. •
The
_Town-clerk : It was resolved that there should
be a rate levied. It is now merely to state the amount.
Mr. Beckwith : Tycn my duty simply is to move that
a rate of one penny the pound be levied for the Liver
pool Library and _Museum.
Mr. Job seconded the proposition.
The Town-clerk : There is also the recommendation
to lay oat. £l.OO, instead of £5O, fOr the alteration of the
Mount Gardens.
M. Beckwith, in moving the adoption of this portion
of the proceedings, said that the committee had recoin-
mended. the appointment of Mr.. Barchell in the place of
Mr. Shepherd, who had looked after the gardens. Ile
would tell the Council that he believed if Mr. 'Bitrchell
had not been appointed, the whole of the. trees would
have gone into c.:nnplete decay. The trees had not been
attended to, and Wore so growing one with the other that
they, had nearly to take up every tree in the garden.
Mr. Job seconded the motion. •
Mr.. Alderman Parker said he Should' like .to know
,whether the money laid out on the gardens was not to
•be paid out
.of the general museum rate, or .whether it
was to be paid by the council ?
The Town-clerk : Not out of the „mascara rate,
because.they were established before the act came into
operation. To the Botanic Gardens it would apply.
Mr. Alderman "Parker said, then as he understood it,
the money
,would have to be paid out of the Council
funds as usual. The gardens
committee had seen how
willinglk the council had granted them LA and so
they had asked for £l.Ol He had no great objection to
that, as no doubt the scheme would be a good one.
But in reference to the circulation of the books of
the library, lie would like to know- the quality of the
.b7oki circulated, whether they were on history or

biography, or, whether they consisted in the distribution
ofthe heap of trash that , was so prevalent. They
had a right to know what " sort of books
were distributed

return

hooks most in c

future a return of th

Formerly, they had had regular
3d the quality of the books, and in
I might judge of the quality of the

oil, he begged to move- that in
ooks circulated be laid before the

lair. 'Alderman Cooper said, with regard to the classifi-
-cation of the books, which the worthy alderniaU required,
it had only been made once a quarter, or once every half-
year, and that was done for the purpose of obviating the
unnecessary amount of statistics being brought before
them.

. Mr. Steains said he begged to be alloWed to state, that in
answer to the question put by Mr. Alderman 'Parker that
the greatest attention was raid to the return of the books.
He could assure the council that the committee paid the
greatest attention to that part. Not aline to the authors,
but, the publishers --not one of the works of the French
school or of Dumas' class of novels were allowed, and
the committee took care that only, the high class of novels
should be circulated.

Mr.' J. H. Turner expressed an opinion, that in the
contemplated alterations in making a straight walk
through Falkner-square gardens, that they would be
making it very ugly, and he hoped that, taking all things
into consideration, the gardens clramittee would pause
before they carried out the alterations.

Mr. W. Earle said, as to the making of a straight path
in the gardens, it was a mere mattet of taste ; but as to
taking down the trees in the Abercromby-square gardens,
it was not only requisite but unavoidable.(Bear, hear.)
In the course of a few years it must have been done, and
then the ladies would have had to bear as. much exposure
as they, were at the present. What had been done was to
remove all the unsightly trees, which chiefly consisted of
forest trees, the roots. of which were perfectly rotten, and
return those which were healthy.

Mr. Beckwith, in ,Zreplying, said the same system
had been adopted in Falkner-square as had been
adopted in Abercromby-square. They had cut down all
the unhealthy trees and left the healthy ones to stand,
some of which were dead and withered, and were mere
stumps. He was of opinion that, had Mr. Shepherd
lived, there would not have been a tree in Great George-
square Gardens. He concluded by moving the adoption
of the whole proceedings, which were confirmed.

\V TER CO3IMITTEE

The proceedings of.this committee were read.
Mr. Hodson moved that the proceedings be confirmed
Mr. Earle seconded the motion.

Mr. Alderman Parker begged, before the proceedings
were continued, to congra.talate the council, and the
town at large, upon the fact, that ,the water was now
better in quality.: They all knew the cause of it. As
the proportion of the sandstone water, mixed with the
Rivington, was greater or less,the quality of the water rose
or felL That fact was perfectly clear. He had no doubt

that the time would come ere long when they should have
no mixture, but the genuine, pare, sandstone water for
the supply of the town at large.

lir. Alderman Turner asked whether any steps tad
been taken yet to impound the water at St. George's
Church, which had been ordered by the council six

months ago ?

Mr. Ilcidson said the matter was in preparation, and
the engineer. had the authority to get the work done
as speedily as possible. lie (Mr. Hodson) should take
care to ask the engineer about it immediately.

Mr. Jeffery said, he thought the question was at
present in the .hands of the health committee. The
water committee were prepared to supply the water, but
the health committee had nut supplied the troughs.
The proceedings were then confirmed.

. The proceedings of the baths' committee were read
and confirmed, on the motion of Mr. Wagstaff, seconded
by Mr. Jeffery.

Mr. Stewa'rt read the coroner's account, which
amounted to £26 19s. 6d. It was referred to the finance
committee for payment. _ _ _

Mr. Earle wished to ask a question, as to whether
carriages could be allowed to stand at shop doors —a
carriage standing at a door waiting for ladies or ,others to
come out. He wished to know if it could be allowed to stand
when another was coming up to prevent the others from
stopping. Such, ha had observed, to be the case in

Boldpsfiect

The Town-clerk replied that there was a provision in
the Police Act to prevent such a system.
Mr. Earle did not blame cab-men so much as carriages
of private gentlemen, which were more in fault, generally,
than cab-men.

Mr. Hodson was very glad that Mr. Earle had men-
tioned the matter, as it was a great annoyance. He
hoped the attention of the police would be called to the
matter.

Mr. Jeffery said it was almost impossible to,keep the
street, clear in the present narrow state of Bold-street and
Church -street. There was little hope of them being
made wider, till his Worship, the Mayor's carriage would
be broken iu, when driving to church. He hoped how-
ever, that his Worship would be saved if that should
come to pass.

MAYOR'S COMMUNICATIONS.
A letter was read from lessees of land at Birkenhead

ng attention to the parliamentary notie(

Company, as to stopping up a portion of the corporation
road,. or Canning-street, Birkenhead, and urging upon
the council to enquire into the effect of the proposed
measure, and, if necessary, to petition parliament against
it, in order to protect their own interests and those of the
public.
The letter was referred to the finance committee.

A letter was read from Mr. Walter Wilson, setting
forth the evil results of the unchecked and indiscriminate
sale of poisons, and urging the council to petition in
favour of the sale of poisons' bill, for which purpose a
form of petition was enclosed.
Mr. Ridley ".remarked, that that measure was brought
before the house last night.

The Town-clerk said, it was not too late to present a

petition in its favour.
Mr. Hodson remarked that it was a very important
subject, and one in which the council ought to feel deeply
interested.
Mr. Ryley moved that the subject be referred to the
health committee, which was seconded and agreed to.
INCREASE OF SALARIES-STATE OF THE CORPORATION

BOOK-KEEPIN

Applications were read from Mr. David Hennessy,
book-keeper ; Mr. John Evans, draughtsman : Mr.
Philip Page, messenger ; and Mr. Patrick Gavin, sur-
veyor, in the borough engineer's office, for increase to
their salaries.

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at all, to make sonic remarks upon the system of book-
keeping adopted in Cornwallis-street offices in particular.
Some time ago the auditor applied for an increase of
salary. Upon that occasion,,the application • was
not entertained, because "of an observation
which he believed he (Mr. Jeffery) made, and
it was considered necessary that the audit should be
examined. He did not think the system of audit was at
all satisfactory, and he feared the same remark would
apply to the treasurer's office in that building. lie was
not prepared to make any motion at the present moment,
but at the next council day he should have no hesita-
tion in moving, that a special committee be appointed
for the purpose of investigating the system of book-
keepinc, connected with the entire of the
corporate estate, both in the treasurer's office in