Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-09-09 00:00:00

WA REHOUSE COMMITTEE

-There was, on the proceedings of this committee, a
letter from Messrs. Gibbs, Bright and Co., on, the sub-
ject of -abcommOdation for the guano trade by water,
during the progress of ,the- dock works at Birkenhead.
It was recommended, that • a reply should be forwarded
to the company, stating that the., board could not -inter,
fere in procuring an appropriate berth, for the guano
trade ; and that the superintendent of the warehouses
had instructions to co-operate with the Birkenhead
Railway in offering to them es'ery facility.
The proceedings were confirmed.

MARINI

3IN.IITTEE

It wa's recorded on the minutes of the proceedings of
this committee, that an investigation had. been Made
into some charges preferred against the master of the
-Noqh landing-stage ; and that the charges had not
been subitautiated. In reference to a duplicate- ball-
beacon, the committeeresolved• that tenders should be
obtained for one in the fair way of the Queen's Channel.
The solicitor attended the cdmnsittee with. reference
'to the memorials en the subject of boarding vessels in
:the river by unauthorised persons. Having heard the,
Solicitor's report, it was recommended that the necessary
steps shOuld be taken for the ze.gistratiou :of all ;heats
plying on the river for hire, in compliance with the
-^,tian of the act of parliament.
The CHAIR :JAN.—AII boats not-being ferry-boats.

A cothmunication was read froin the Watch Cam--
•mittee, including a report from Major Greig 'on this•
subject.
The report quoted the clauses in the, acts of parlia-
ment referring to the subject; showing that, under the.
Merchants' Shippin Act, .the 'board made the depart-
ment to undertake the general superintendence of such
matters relating to merchant -ships and -seamen.; also
that the master had power to .give every person into'
.custody .for. boarding. the ship without being duly
authorised. The head constable suggested that addi-
tional. police constables might be posted on -the Great
Landing-,stage and the 'more prominent pierhetls,- ready
t) go off to any ship hoisting a • signal, and to receive
intotheir chin ge any person taken into, custody by the
captain or his officers. This, he said, could he -done at
the: present time, if the poviers given to Masters were
known and acted upon. .lle also suggested that .n boat
should be placed at either end of the Landing-stages,
and upon a signal being hoisted, to be manned by 'dock-
gatemeA, who were constables, and accustomed to the
handling of boats, and who would at once pull off tattle
ship, -and receive any person in charge. 'ln: conclusion,.
it was suggested that all boats plying, on the river for
hire should be registered, and 'the boats to be numbered,
and certain fines to be inflicted in case 'of an offence.
A resolution-was read from the last. Meeting of magis-
strates, expressinz, their Opinion that it Was desirable
that a river police-force' should be established in Liver-
•
pofil..

Mr. MosnEL nioved the confirmation of:the proCeed-
in.'s. He said they would. see; by the proceedings, that
the committee -were taking steps to register the boats
plying on the river, by numbering- Ahern. -He did .not
know that they could do much more in thc matter .than.
suggest that some signal might be Used 'then any
unauthorised 'perSon was b -mrding 'the' Vessel. .
Mr. • BOULT asked if they were to' understand that
these parties boarded the ships piratically, and that the
captain had no power to put these- people off his own
ship. It seemed to him an extraordinary thing for the
public ,to do that which parties were able to do for
themselves. The captain, haring a proper comma-id .of
the ship, could decide any time as to who was to come
on board or leave his ship. lie really did not see why
that board was to he troubled with this matter ; nor did
he see why the whole paraphernalia of the authorities
shouldinterfere in it, _ _ _ .

Mr. BIJAHrit said Mr: Boult would admit that a
treat source' of immorality had been proved ; "and the

witnesses who lived iT"-;-- ' .
in 'toe same house with the question was, wou„._
'9ner, and they _ one duty of tha,
43 was not credited ; and the prisoner as sent for' remove the eVil. in believed they had. got the nadaer
now in a practical shape, and that much good would
arise from it. If the captains did' not do their duty,
that -hoard should point to than where their duty lay.
The better the order kept, the more morality would be
. - -na. to say nothing of thc interest they all had in
- - ,_ ---1 44..., mhrnla of flu, RPA-

her it was not

E COM:it

rrr.—At the weekly meeting
la yesterday, Mr. Churchwarden
hair. The other members present
)enton; Scoff; Owen, PeA,BroOme,
Thn -

It'Apex
ete
!it4,,Yford, and (

Smith. I

occurred i

the past w

the establishment

were men, two

men.
Mr. ANDERSON said he did not agree with Mr. Boalt
that the captain could at all times prevent these men
from getting on board, and prevent the sailors oxiing
—Tay lie was very glad to hear that the .boats were

alent

number of patient
4 ; new cases since

118 ; nov

em 26 are fever, 18
It was reported that

gtLoi ngIVCLI.
g to be registered, as be thought it would do a
great deal of good. However careful the officers might

instant

wing a (1(

men, 60 women, and 10
of 9, when compared with
?crease of 54; when oath,

v4l_
Na'wlous weelc, and

of last year. The
e number of inmates in the
as 1,787 ; number this week,
1g a decrease of 72, and, when compared
responding week of last year, a decrease

'''"UrreS
-4161,2ePorted

.ntii --`-‘• t3.---UOMIIISSIONERS' Al
__EET.IN.G. --- The
1(4 h? Meeting of the St.. Helen's Commissioners was
Ltre......%,.(1 011. Wednesday. The commissioners present
I,l`Ni(4,4,essrs.. Gamble, Gurney, Johnson, Bailey,
butor4"°l) and Drom,goole. It was moved Da M .
ttibl°°l..L, and seconded by Mr. Bailey, that David
ital.. eii-m., be appointed. chairman for the current;
t. the 0 following committees were also appointed..
po- clirrent year, viz., water, lighting, and general
44, ges • .
), 04 Paving, highway, and sewering committee, ands
et; committee The only general business wa
'ePot;i'llg a plan Of a new beerhouse and concert-hall,
4vi, to be built in 'Waterloo-street, by Mr. Richard
the
~';44,4l.,,LoTae.tiTfyr:tehyeo,r, said plan was defective and
Towns' Improvement Act," whicho.
44,1, ed
aoll'en yard space at the back of the dwe in,
‘,,,18c°41di,,--- equal to half the area of the house After
,o,4118,:c-11, tha application was refused., cii
GERATas
kl)tis 4A,TICM OF ST. JAMES'S tdIIIJR ,
/Iti(1 ."--t-t Ile IleW church erected in memory eneral
of
G Reid,
t bY
Phis
Sisters Misse3 Anna Maria and Louisa
Ille iT.rds Cross 'consecrated by the Right Rev.
hkr,11`?11) of Oxfordwas onthe 30th ult. About three
th 14.0,81, co, these ladies expressed
lkilieff,,'"a memory of General Reid,
a wish to erect a
1,444„"°Q the aid of the E. Moore, teethe .lord of the.te
iteat'tt Pahalfont St. Peter, who kindly
theti ,Ile k Horse, end of the common. Plans were
granted a site
ales"'llt in and approved of. Some preliminary d.iffi as to the site having been overcome, the edifice
)?4,lProceeded with, and has now been completed, and
tb• eoliseer
churche day above named. The distinct
foie t of the, ania the leading particulars of. its
trok'' will be found in the following transcript,
1141,4 pion,inscription on a slab, placed in one of the com-
-""lents of the north transept. It is as follows :

To the Glo
and in M

GEORGE_
At;

, Ls u., hiember-Olia'rullaßmielnEtifOr \\.-111sti; M.A.
and 6ololetio7Teerli!e;lp2inTteAn"'
s 2nd Life Guards,
this churcuji:e -
Alixa Itanu. and Lec ed.tbY
'is attached and maurnin°;:f:istellrsEthtua' der
the direction
WILLIAM TITI:, Esca , M.P. 1'
the valued. friend' 31'8"
' znented brother. : •
%, k.onseerate,, ix., A.D., IIDeCCLIX.
as perpetual
~,,' tie clergyman appointed to St. James's,
who has been
it,,l4e, is the Rev. W.•J. Bramley-mo' ore,
here we shall
'shed -with a suitable residence on the Common, an
,clistance from the establishment; and
hig ue out of place in remarking that. this der _ an
kilo Selected from a number, that his name is well
ttit;!ti in ecclesiastical circles, and that he accepted the
'4'7y not for any pecuniary motive, but solely to carry
),t,e4e relip.,ious good which the Misses Revd have so
$4481Y conlraenced.

of their 1
Aug.

111 r. 'CRAVES thought the matter might be safely len,' --
in the hands. of the. Marine Committee. , He was told ground,he was in favour of the appropriation:as Well as
that there were many boats plying on the river in this on the ground that it gave a capital of £5OO per 'annum).
way, that did not ply for hire at all, and he thought it for what was now bringing nothing. (near, hear.) He
would be well for the committee to consider this,.if they thought, that-vas a step it the right direction.
had power to act. Mr. Boult asked that the masters Mr. TOBIN said, if this had been a question of income
should act for themselves in the same way that people of £5OO a-year, and that had been pat forward as a
on shore do. He (Mn Graves) was quite sure the prominent argument, he should have been opposed to it.
masters would wish for the same protection as was en-' He agreed to it, because it 'was his own'connetion that,
joyed on shore ; and the chief point in the head con- by these appropriations, a greater amount of business
stable's report was, that a few police shouldlie so placed "could be done on the areas of their docks;
ehanabdde,ntdelisettrtieenfdoctrbley,
as to carry out the wishes of the master when anything tshuechtmardperoapnrdiateioomnsm_ercaes e3fitrh.e
Rpoarntkwiner
should take place requiring their services.
s
i6BOI juusalwhdnea)let ay
tt.
Mr. SHAND said the masters, when bringing their stated, a greater amount of work could be performed,y
afforded.d
ships into port, were full of anxiety to get their vessels NlVillei It%
oiunghrtea
tlayargrremateenrtaucLodmbmyodiart.
inquired
The docked, and not paying attention to who was boarding
their vessels. Some allowasee should be made for this. pthreracetifcoereh,wavasinagreexaissotnedwhfoyrotlheimrt
matter years—tcr s h
(Hear, hear.)
The .CHAIRMAN thought great good would be done into, because a great revolution had taken place in our
by letting the masters know how they could be pro- commerce during the past thirty years—was not of much
tested. force. A revolution had taken place in the steam trade,
Mr. TOBIN said this recommendation was merely for and it was impossible that the steam trade could be
the registration of the boats. The registration itself properly carried out except by the principle of appro-
went for nothing. He presumed it was intended to priated berths. Sailing vessels might very likely have
bring before the board some bye-laws, or regulations, as performed their work economically without having-
the registration by itself would be a mere nullity. appropriated berths. Mr. Bushell had spoken of a
• The•CHAIRMAN.—It is merely the first step. monopoly in the American trade; but they had also
Mr. MoNDEL said he had no doubt great good would another subject to consider. This was not the only
be done. There was a great number of people boarded port to which vessels could come ; and unless there
the ships and took away the seamen from their duty,'were conveniences, it might not be a question between
leaving the vessel to be worked in any way, and often Liverpool and America, but between America and sonie
there was no option but to employ riggers. ' other port. It was, therefore, on the grounds of
Mr. MAcIvER thought some direction ought to be greater accommodation that he supported this.
given to the Marine Committee before it was referred Mr. Boma said they had a thirty years' experience of
back. They had always a good sprinkling- of the mem- the working of that system, and they found it could not
hers of the Marine Committee present at the board, and, be done without ; and they found also that, they got an
the same matters would just be discussed in the same amount of work out of the quays which they could not
way. There was a question of jurisdiction to be consi- by any other. Mr. Inman carried, by his vessels,
dered, as it was a matter of question whether policemen 250,000 tons in the year ; and that amount of work
had any right to go on board the ships ; and he should could not be done if the ships had to go and.dock
like to know to whom they were to give any person into wherever they could get. He was satisfied they could
custody, for offences on the river. not get the same amount of work out of the docks in
Mr. Locittrff.--The solicitor will tell you. any other way ; and by giving this berth to Messrs.
The matter was referred to the Marine Committee, Mess' and Co., they should be leaving more space
and the -proceedings were then confirmed. for the steamers belonging to o her
fir
Co.
.hd It
been
was
The proceedings of the Pilots' Committee were read, known that Messrs. is
and . cl
and, on the motion of Mr. Shand, confirmed. occupying two or three berths at. one time, and the
DOCKS AMD QUAYS' COMMITTEE. whole of the work would be done in one berth now.
The proceedings of this committee recommended the There was no such principle as monopoly involved at
appropnation of a berth of 300 feet on the nort-east all. The firm had the business and the sliips, and they
corner of ellingtondock to MessTS. Moss 86 Col; also must be accommodated. He was satisfied they were
aportion of
the for which the company were to acting for the interest of the estate, and • all parties
of shed, concerned, by appropriating this berth.
difficult arisina• from
application having been submitted to the coin- Mr. SHAND said there was a . y
pay £5OO per annum.
An to (rive accommodation to the steam
want of power ,
mittee from the engineer, for authority to run thewhole their
by appropriating
of the docks and the great float dry at Birkenhead, after vessels of the port, and he saw clearlythat that ab.co,m-
the morning tide on Saturday, the 24th instant, it was modation would be much greater
recommended that the necessary notices should be given berths in the way proposed.
Mr. MoNDEL said he agreed with Mr. Boult
preparatory to the proceeding.
there to do
The CHAIRMAN said there were two letters with refe- in his argument, that much more benefit was derived
reuse to the graraing of the berth to Messrs. Moss and from appropriating berths ; but they were
not coin-
Co , and another with reference to the running dry of justice to all parties ; and while they were benefitting
the dock, if it were the pleasure of the board to have Messrs. Moss and Co., and others, they should
them read. • mit a practical injustice on those who had not appro-
The Clerk then read a letter from Messrs. Gibbs, priated berths, and who should seek accommodation at
t,Bright, and Co., objecting to the appropriation of the their hands. If they
had docks
constructed for the
uerth to Messrs. Moss and Co. Another letter was read accommodation of steamers, then they ghotild carry out

chain-

. ,
lie_.princip4lstial4r:l),utopl4ll ttitia,they,khould deal with
is' riiesti6n It they went on _
appro-
priating their_doelc't at_the.same. rata-as _they_wPF
now, thek:estate would soon be bankrupt.
_

Mr: kir,A,NlB6liithhe'ilainieaidArr Foiwood and others
ohseryei that hitiiectb they had -been- pursuing. a wrong
eau s 6, 'Ond4hat, therefore they were bound to continue
it. The Christian- maxim was, if they took an oath to
do a wicked and improper* thing, they .were to repent of
it and.not perform it: ith rciard to the justice of
'the
.thlngi, heysoniidered that disposed of. They heard
from Mr. Bouttlhatthese parties had the ships and the
trade • but did Mr. )3oult mean., to say that others had
not ships-L—but tliey.were to be shut out? Next, they heard
an as.scrtion'that:it.was for the advantage of the locks:
Did th 4 mean. pecuniary ? (Yes.) Well, Mug forwrad a

stateineat, and let thcm See how it would look on paper:
cane they .to fix on $5OO a year ? Had they
asked anybody else if they • would not give -£7OO ?
(Her,'hear.) . What was the whole of
.this but a closet
kind of jobbing,--nothing else • They had Ro evidence
for these assertions, that this would work-for the benefit
of the docks. It was not in the nature Of things that
these. 'appropriated berths would be always occupied;
there were.many intervals and casualties that would pre-
vent it. He asked them to give him a calculation of
what 30q feet of ii berth woUld• do, and what this shed
Would produce supposingit were left open for Competition;'
and he would. be glad to know what security they had,
after-they gave a vested right in a shed, that they would
get it back agaitilien required. When they tame to
make such assertions, they might to give it to them in
s. d., With statements of what had been done, and.
whatit would produce by competition. No such thing.
vague been produced. They_ had vaue declaniatiohs;.bit
he would like to s6elit tedaced Cry' pecuniary accounts;
•
with &correct estimate of What would be the amount of
basinesi•got there in case :of;a monopoly; .and in Case of'

general use

Mr, GaNvEs rcad.,from,the last printed report, shoW-
ing the working of the appropriated berths, several
entries to prOve that there,was a considerable number
of days when the'appropriatea:berths were not occupied
.by the companies' vessels, and was thus to-the favour of
the board.'
Mr. Busy

LL said:Mr. Graves was going. on the
. .
u.
assutption that 'these berths .were always occupied by
other vessels when • .not occupied by privileged-coin-
panies;! which was not`n fair aisumption. The practice
had arisen front au .a4tivated and. exploded- system..•
Mr. LAIRD- belisted Ahat with'. regard to the steam
trade •. it !could not be . carried ,out without this

tO:i.inncla greater, extent than
And by this extension; he
largely. increased 'revenue

what it *as .at:. presant
1(1' hay(

!clievedtliey

4AN said

. he a ;reed with many, gentlemen
a saying that it was very dilieult, if not impossible, to
lin trade -artless they continued the sys-
tem of ate nopriatiag berths lie had been long enough

carry on the stc

connectedconnecteu with the doCks‘ to sea' that ; the system had
arisen front the necestitieS of the case, and not frOm
an antiquated and exploded. system, as Mr. ..Bushell
had observed, but because it was found absolutely
necessary that with ~the. .extension of the steam
trade they should, extend this system.. The appro-

printed berth might be taken away at any time the
board thought propei't ;fin fact,'he was quite sure that
a lare paition of 'the steam 'trade would leave the port
if they did. nit carry uat this system. lie hoped Mr.
Bushell,wmild withdraw his amendment.

Mr. BuiptELv askedif the committee were prepared to
grant similar applications to other parties.
The CHAIRMAN said these questions were all questions
of degree_ Everybody knew that, besides. appropriated
berths, they must leave open a certain number of berths
or the. transit trade.
Mr. MONDEL said the committee were quite prepared
to consider' favourably the application of any company
that had a sufficient number of ships, and to grant them
a berth for the general benefit of the estate, if there was
room in the docks. He would be the first person to re-
commend the committee to do so, but they could not
give berths if they had not space
Mr. BiisnELL said, with the consent of Mr:. Brockle-
bank, he would withdraw his amendment. The public
would now have before them the reasons why this -appli7
Cation was granted, and they would see it was not a
matter that had -been .sMuggled thiough that board ;
and he trusted they would see that they had decided
without partiAlty to a member of that board
Mr. IN MAN insisted that the matter should be put to
the vote. •

A vote was accordingly taken. There voted for, the
amendment Messrs. Brocklebauk, Bushell, Evans,
Hubback, Monclel, Against—Messrs. Bonit, Farn-
worth,' FOrwood, 'Graves, Hutchison, Inman,- Laird,
Lockett, Maclver, Rankin, Rountliwaite, Segar, Shand,
Tobin, 'and . the Chairman: • The. amendment was accord-
ingly lost by a majority of 15 against 5.
A letter. was read from Messrs. Newall and Co.,
asking the board not to run the Birkenhead. Docks dry
till the Ist October, otherwise, there would be inflicted
a severe loss and inconvenience on theni, becauSe 'Of
their steamers Imperador and Imperatriz now lying
there, ready to take in the Indian and Red Sea Tele-
graph Cable, which they 'had made, and which they
would, hot have completely -loaded before the 28th
instant.

In raply to the Chairman, the Enoineer said if he did
not. get the docks run dry on the 24a, instant, he would
not have so low A tide this year again, and he might
not be able to get them run dry at all, if he was not
allowed to elrry out his plan for running them' dry on
the 24th instant ; besides, there was preliminary work

o be done.
The ClIAT.Miki supposed. that would be the answer
hey .would' give to the letter
The proceeding
The proceeding, M flip Master Porters' Committee

)1111 Shear(

A. letter was r

referred to the Finance Committee

;r. of undeniriters

the board to continue t

shipoWner

on an improved principle. The
by. 100 shipowners 'and others,
lie Works', Committee.

and it was refery
This concluded the general business
•

LIVERPOOL POLICE COURT.---YtsrERDAy

[Before Mr. PRESTON.]
CHARGE OF OBTAINING MONEY UNDER FALSE
Es.—James Martin, who, ere this, has appeared
in the dock on charges of a similar description, was
brought •up. accused-of obtaining five pounds under false
pretences fioM Bernard Burns, who keeps a boarding-
house, at 25; Dennison-street. Theprisoner, a tall, good-
looking mail, it appears, shipped as cook and steward
on board the ship. W. H. Warton, and obtained an ad-
vance note, which Burns's wife cashed. Martin worked
on board the ship . front ,Friday until Monday morn-
ing, when :he took his clothes on shore; and left them
at the Sailors' Home. When Burns heard of this, he
went in search of Martin,.and gave him into custody.
The '
prisoner on being asked what he. had to say,
replied , that .he fell, down some steps, and hurt his
breast. As he .'had to do the duties of cook and
steward, he was afraid that he could not give.satisfac-
tier' to his employers, so he came on shore. His wor-
ship said that no doubt. :he had behaved very badly to
Burns ; but no jury could convict on the evidence, and
he must therefore be discharged. Burns then
expressed a desire to know how she was to be paid her
money,. and wal informed that she had better sue
Martin in the county court. .

PItETEN'CI

ANNUAL GENERAL SESSION.

Yesterday, the annual general session for this county
was held by adjournment in the Court-house, Preston,
for the purpose of electing a chairman for. the ensuing
year,nppointing a chief-constable for the county, vacant
by the resignation of, Capt. Sheppard, and for the trans-
action of other business in connection with tile county.
There about 200 magistrates present.

ELECTION OF CHAIRMAN

"..On 'the motion of Mr. T. B. 'Addison, seconded by the
Rev. T. S. Mills, the Right ion. M. T. Barnes was re-

REPORTS

On the- presentation of
.:the report of the General
Finance Committee, Dr, Breughton . highly eulogised
the labour of that committee, and begged to thank them
for their exertions. The report was adopted

A report

by the committee appointed to prepare a bads or stand-
ard for equal county rates was alsoreceived. The
committee reported that they had altered such basis or
Standard by reducing the amount of the full and fair
animal value of the property, messnages, lands, tene-
ments, Sze., rateable to; the poor in the township of Al-
tham,.from the sum of .f.,5,239 to the sum of £2,123. The-
reports of the other committees mere neit received and
adopted.

TWo NOTORIOUS BUROLARS.—John Berry and Ben-
jamin Lee were brought up under the following circum-
stances :—Detective-officers Scaife and Marsden were
in Fox-street, when they observed the, prisoners in com-
pany with two other well-known burglars. The officers
considered the prisoners were after no good, and they
endeavoured to arrest them all. They succeeded in
securing Lee and Berry. Lee attempt dto assault
Scaife with a ' "jemmy," and Berry used a crowbar
against Marsden. tee, in the meantime, had thrown
away it dark lantern, and Berry had disposed of a
bunch of skeleton keys in a similar manner. Both,
however,' were recovered. On searching Berry, there
was a quantity of rope found on him, which was,
according to the officers, for throwing over a safe, and
so to have a purchase to use a bit in breaking open a
safe. On Lee was found a bottle, containing oil, to
facilitate operations,—similar to what was used in a
recent burglary 'in ldhall-strect. Both prisoners are
well-known characters. Berry was tried at the assizes
in 1857, and was sentenced to twelve months' imprison-
meut, for, burglary.
He was sent for three months'
confinement, in
1858, as a suspected character ; in addi-
tion to which he has been twelve times committed and
six times discharged. Lee was ordered to be imprisoned
for throe months in January last, as a suspected charac-
ter; and also twice committed and twice discharged.
They were committed for three months as suspected
characters.