Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-05-05 00:00:00

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subject, and that gentleman stated that the practice had
grown up of appending a certain statement which really
conveyed no accurate knowledge whatever. Certain matters
were put forward in it as balances, such as the balance con-
nected with the Old Court of R.-quests Act., which it was
perfectly useless now to put forward. The town-clerk told
him that the statement was utterly valueless.

The Town-clerk said, the treasurer told him it was no part
of the corporate account. If he were to put forward a
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THE NORTHERN TIMES, THURSDAI, MAY 5, 1859

others, showing that the unregistered houses are a very
large number, which ought to be registered, which were not
so, and those, too, of the worst class. We have it sated,
that, under the sanction of the bye -laws, 3,269., applications
were made for the registration of these. 1,848 have been
reported or certified for registration ' • but at present they
admit 650, and they are now reduced to 505. There must
of course be a vast addition in number which ought to be
registered and put under the bye-laws. If this system of
night lodging-houses is to be carried on in Liverpool, I
believe that the police, who would admit that many of these
houses take in lodgers for the night—but they themselves
deny this, in order to evade the registration, —these
persons might he detected and fined for doing so,
and that would likely effect some change upon
them. If that system was adopted in this town which is
adopted by magistrates throughout the country and other
places—that of making the police answerable for these
irregularities—there would be an improvement
wishes to say that the health committee has not done
great deal for the health of the town, and in such a manne
as to be creditable to the committee themselves but it does
not follow that, because a great deal has been done, a great
deal more is not to done. There is nothing suggested in
this report as to what is to be done to prevent these evils,
but I will venture to suggest one step, without interfering
with the duties of the health committee. Ido not see
y it should not be the duty of the police, when they are
leir .constant rounds, to detect these people.
another thing which the health commitee
reports, and no doubt on (rood authority, that Lord Shaftes-
bury's act of 1851-53 can be acted upon by the Liverpool Town
Council as well as that of 184 G. Now, if this be the case,
why should it not be •put in force in regard to these houses,
where every kind of filth is accumulated in themselves and
of their inhabitants ? I beg to suggest to the health corn-
committee, that what I have pointed out should be
attended to.

Nobody

Mr. Clint said, the information, as given by the police,
showed the nu caber of inhabitants to be about 71 to .the
house on an average.
Mr. Earle : I admitted that.
Mr. Clint said, he was not alluding to any of Mr. Earle's
but to another matter. It seemed to be a very
long time, and on different occasions he had thought of it,
that an application had to be made for the registration of a

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I Mr. Dover said —there was no doubt whatever that the
health committee had great difficulty to contend with in the
manapment of these lodging-houses. He recollected, some
time ago, the police were said to have intruded themselves
into these houses, and were obliged to go into the bedrooms,
much against the will of the people, and he mentioned this
matter to show thatit was an exceedingly hard thing to deal
with the matter in such away as it might seem desirable to do.
When a police officer was obliged to exercise that authority
which the law has given him, he must exercise it with a
great deal of discretion. The reason why Lord Shaftesbury's
act was not carried out was because they thought that there
was some opposition. He thought that the statements which
Mr. Earle had obtained from the police would have
gone to the proper place if they lead been
sent to the health committee, and he thought that
committee had done something for the health of the town in
the expending of three millions of money for that purpose.
He did not think that, taking any other body of men in the
borough, there could be found a more useful body than the
officers employed by the health committee. With regard to the
time that had elapsed, through the illness of Dr. Dun-
can, now that he was better, he would be able to see these
places, and he would call his attention to the fact that had
been suggested, that six weeks or a month was too long
a time between making the application and the registration
of the houses, and he was sure the health committee would
give it their attention. He concluded by moving the adop-
tion of the report and the general proceedings.
Mr. Shand said, before the 'proceedings were confirmed,
he wished to call the attention of the health committee to
the state of the roads at Prince's-park. On the foot walk
at that place, large lots of cinders had been put down, and
was worked up into such a state as to be totally unfit for
walking upon. lie had spoken to the surveyor, and he had
promised to put something on it to bind it together, but
that had not been done. At this season of the year, when
the water-carts wet the centre of the roads, there was
nothing for foot passengers but to walk on the rough pave-
ment at the edges. He thought that something should be
done to remedy that as soon as possible, for it was a place
of great public thoroughfare.

Mr. Alin agreed with the observation made by Mr.
Shand, and hoped to see the road in better order soon.
Mr. Dover : Perhaps Mr. Earle will reply -to that, as it is
something in his way.

Mr. Earle said he had no objection to do so; bat the fact
was, that it seemed to him very like taking care of "num-
ber one," when the gentleman at the park mentioned the
bad state of the road there. He was sure Mr. Aikin would
excuse him saying so, because he could not dany it.
(Laughter.) It struck him that these cinders would bind
sufficiently, though he thought it would be much better to
have flags, but he thought it. was one of those questions
that should rest for the present. They should meet the
thing fairly in the face. They had spent £12),000 in se
era

ge, and very properly too, but after spending so much
money under ground, they would have to spend a little
sbove ground, before all these improvements would be car-
ried out. But wait till they coild

t a new improvement

Mr. Picton wished to know if the health committee had
come to the resolution that had been passed by the council,
that the committee was to comiciar about the new T
hall ?

Some conversation, of no public interest, took place,
and the subject dropped, without coming to any final issue.
The proceedings were then confirmed.

tGE'S HALL COMMITTEE.
The proceedings of the courts of law and George's-hall com-
mittee were read, and Mr. Earle moved their confirmation.

Mr. Riley asked why there was no true statement of the
expenses in connection with the hall ? Tie saw several
things jumbled up together, here and there, but it seemed
to him that it was for the express purpose of mystifying the
matter.

The Town-clerk stated the total cost of the hall to be
£320,659, up to the present time.

The proceedings of this committee contained the follow-
ing : —Resolution respecting Mr. Luya, and direction to Mr.
Hutchinson to take temporary charge of St.' John's Market ;
Recommendation to accept the tender of Mr. E. P. Jones, for
clothing for the market officers.
The resolution regarding Mr. Luya stated that, upon in-
vestigation, it appeared that defalcations amounting to em-
bezzlement had taken place, and his apprehension was
therefore directed.

Mr. Johnson moved • that the proceedings be confirmed.
He submitted that, at prosent, it would not be
advisable to go further into details, as Mr. Luya
had been suspended, and was about to be apprehended.
There was no doubt that he would he apprehended, and the
proceedings would be the subject of an inquiry in a court
of justice. The committee were going on with the investi-
gation, to ascertain what the full extent of the defalcations
might be, and the result would be reported to the council in

Until these investigations bad been brought to
a conclusion, it probably would not be wise to enter into
much discussion noon the subject.

.ins did not, concur with Mr. Johnson. He
[ley must even go a little beyond Mr. Luya.

stances c on-
apeached the

(Hear, hear.) lie regretted much that the deputy-chair-
man of the finance committee was not now present. That
gentleman did him (Mr. Steains) the honour to take down his