Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-10-29 00:00:00

VAUXHALL WARD.

A meeting of the Meals and supporters of Mr.
Shimmin was held last night at Mr. Johnson's, corner
of Eaton-street, Vauxhall-road. The room was crowded.
Mr. Lafone presided : among other gentlemen we
observed_Messrs. Lancaster, Swift, Wise, Singleton,
Walker, Wilson, Tyrer, Knowles, Fowler, Starkey, and
Williams.
_ The eItiIRMAN, in introducing the business of the
evening, referred first to the'absence of some gentlemen
whom he had hopel to bring with him, among whom
were Messrs. Oakell, Horsfall, and Peel. He saw before
him, he said, many from Whom he once differed, but was
now glad to meet them all in the character of supporters
of Mr. Shimmin. The-old names of Liberals and Con-
servatives were now merged into that of Liberal-
Conservative, and he should be sorry if he could• not
meet his brother man without politics interfering.
He then went over the claims which Mr. Shimmin had
Fpon their support, and counselled them all to be early
their"lsface on the first of November, and return Mr.
Shimniin to represent their ward for the next three
years.
Mr. SHIUMIN, who was very warmly received, said
that, had he consulted his own interest, he would not
have been here ; but he was always willing to come
`forward publicly when called. He did not, at one
time, intend to stand as a candidate for the suffrages of
'their ward at this election, and had the requisition not
.been presented„ he would .certainly have retired. This
was the largest requisition he had ever got, having been
signed by 140 names ; and on the assurance that no
opposition would be offered, he consented to come forward.
He believed he could come, before them to-night with
clean hands, having attended to his duty to the utmost of
his power, hairing been present at every meeting of the
Council srncel he was elected, with the exception of
three, andnia these occasions he was ill, or out of town.
He had the honour to be ikkta a -member of the Mar-
kets' tommittee, and hid =considered it his duty. to
inquire into the system of book-keeping in use by their
officials, and how far it supplied a check against the
abuse of the public money. , He was, however, snubbed
at first, but, by the co-operation of Mr. Bowring, a sub-
ccmntittee of inquiry was- formed. The results of their
inquiry inevitably led to the conclusion that the sooner
we took the besom of destruction and swept away the
cobwebs, the bettor. When we came to frame a
new set of books, this had to be done by deputy,
and there was only one alteration made. Had
we taken it into our own . hands, our officials would
not have been able to mystify us. The conse-
quence has been, that we have lost nearly £lOO,OOO,
which, if we had it now, we would not be under the
necessity of applying to the Chancellor of the Exchequer
for £41,000, or any other sum. Observing the gigantic
systems of fraud, he naturally asked himself if there was
no one who would come forward to stem the tide. lie, •
consequently, formed a set of books supplying effectual
checks on all departments; but, on brmging them for-
ward, was "pooh poohed," not because the system was bad,
but because it emanated from him. He had to stand
alone ; but, was happy to state, that, after all, his system
would be adopted. He then referred to the urgent
necessity there was for improvement in the. ward, espe-
cially in sanitary matters. A great deal that was scur-
rilous had been said as to his connection with the
Government, but there was no more connection between
him and the Government, than there subsisted between
government and several of the first gentlemen in Liverpool,
Mr. Brocklebank and others whom he would not name.
He did not see that his connection with Government
incapacitated him from exercising his rights as a citizen.
Mr. Shimmin concluded by expressing his willingness
to answer any question any one might think fit to• put
to him regarding his stewardship.
The Cir..maNsAN then called on Mr. Blundell; who
repudiated the charge of bribery which had been
brought against the ward by Mr. M`Gregor, and he
thought they. would not be doing their duty if they did
not return their candidate. He then moved that this
meeting pledge itself to use every legitimate means to
secure the return of Mr. Shimmin, as their representa-.
tive to their Local Parliament..

Mr. LANCASTER seconded the motion, which was
carried. without a dissentient voice.

Mr. SHIMMIN again rose, and said he wished to say
something in reference to Mr. M'Gregor's charges which
had been brought up to might. He could not see their
consistency, when the same gentleman actually pre-
sented him with a paper containing a list of the names
of Aldermen, coupling it at the same time with an offer,
that if he (Mr. Shimmin) voted for them, he would not
be opposed in Vauxhall Ward.
The business of the meeting was concluded by a vote
of thanks to the Chairman.

NORTH AND SOUTH TOXTETH WARDS.
A large and influential meeting of the friends and
supporters of James Robertson, Esq., and J. G. Living-
ston, Esq., was held last evening, at the Royal Oak Inn,
Park-road. Amongst those present were the following
gentlemen :—John Stewart, Esa. ; Hilton Halhead,
Esq. ; F. H. Halhead, Esq. ; -James Bland, Esq. ;
'Quentin Fleming, Esq. ; Edward Lawrence, Esq. ; S.
Siddeley, J. B. Hughes, Joseph Harrison, Thomas
Harrison, H. H. Benbow, Llewellyn Williams, Alfred
Pickup, M. A. Johns, G. W. Hunter, Joseph Brundritt,
George Brundritt, Wm. Warke, M.D., James Lardlan,
.J. Twinem, Mr. Thomas, Captain Caine, Captain Lloyd,
Richard James, Philip Caine, John Kidd, P.-Kelly, Wm.
Davies, James Boyce, Thomas Martin, Edward Taylor,
J. G. Bowdler, Wm. Cooke, John leap, Thomas W.
Kelt, Thomas Jones, James M'Quin, R. A. Watson,
W. Parr, R. Zwilcherbert, jun., Gtiffith Owen, W. F.
Collins, Mr. Lloyd, Mr. Martin, W. W. Cochrane, and S.
Roberts.

The chair was occupied by G. Henry Horsfall,
Esq., who strongly urged upon the electors the neces-
sity of using every exertion to return the. Conservative
candidates.
Mr. jouN STEWART moved a resolution to the effect
that James Robertson, Esq., is a fit and proper person
to represent the South Torteth Ward in the Liverpool
Town Council, and in doing so spoke in very 'high terms
of Mr. Robertson'si services while he had been in the
Council, and expressed a very strong opinion that no
gentleman could be found to discharge the duties of a
representative more faithfully and effectually than Mr.
Robertson had done..

JAMES BLAND, Esq., seconded the resolution, and in
doing so stated that he had known Mr. Robertson for
many years, and could bear testimony to the zeal with
which he had served the Ward ever since he had been
returned as its representative.
Mr. ROBERTSON thanked the electors for the honour
they_ had done him in returning him twice unopposed,
and would be. quite content to retire, if they thought
they could find a better man ; but if they thought fit to
return him again, he would do his utmost to promote
the interests of the ward, and the town at large. He
then alluded to the chief topics of interest that have
lately come before the Council, and expressed his readi-
ness to give any explanation that might be required as
to his votes, or to answer any questions that any one
might be desirous of putting to him.
MT. EDWARD LAWRENCE proposed Mr. J. G. Livings.
ton as a fit and proper person to represent North Toxteth
Ward. He vindicated his party from the oharge of
bringing forward an unknown gentleman, arid he felt
sure that Mr. Livingston wo ald do all in his power to
promote the interests of the ward, and trusted that he
would be returned by an overwhelming majority.
Mr. HARRISON seconded the motion, and urged upon
the electors the duty of being early at the poll.
Mr. LIVINGSTON briefly thanked the electors for the
enthusiastic reception accorded to him, and pledged him-
self, if elected, to use his best exertions to represent
them faithfully.
Mr. HALMEAD explained that the candidates had been
already nominated in pursuance of the requirement of
the new act of parliament.
Mr. Robertson was nominated by William Clay, Esq„
of the Mersey Steel and Iron Works; and Tindal Bright.

_Zan, of__stumy Side, Prince's Park, nominated Mr.
Livingston.
A vote of thanks was then passed to the Chairman,
who acknowledged the compliment, and the meeting
separated,

.
EVERTON AND KIRKDALE WARD.
A meeting
=of thedidate for this
friends
and
ward,• supporterses
s h
Brunel-street, Evertor. The meeting was very large, every
part of the-spacious building being occupied.
On the motion of Mr. Dreaper, Mr. E. Whitley took the chair.
viz. :—Messrs. C. E. Came (candidate), John Longton, Joseph
Hubback, Kthre ACthearnnewa'm
the
Conservative ,
Amongst those present we observed the following gentlemen,
Hubback, D. Crosthwaite, T. Brakell, John C. Dreaper, Thos.
Holden, W. L. Brown, H. Wilson, James Brancker-Spence, J.
R. Chambers, W. C. Fosberry, W. Overton, T. D. Anderson,
and Overton.
The CHAIRMAN rose, and, was greeted with cheers. He said
he had to thank them for the honour they had conferred on
him, by electing him to preside over such a large and influen-
tial meeting. Since he had last the pleasure of addressing
them at Kirkdale, there had been a meeting of their opponents
in that building. They had started clear of personal
remarks on both sides ; but he was bound to occupy
a few moments in calling their attention to- some
of the statements made at that meeting. Mr.. Stitt
had made some allusion to the remarks that he had
made at Kirkdale. Mr. Stitt said that it had been stated
by him (the chairman) that he was opposed to religious
instruction. Those who were present at Kirkdale wore aware
that he said nothing of the sort; but what he did say was,
that when their respected representative, Mr. Anderson,
brought before the Town Council the flourishing state
of the Corporation Schools, that Mr. Robertson Gladstone
made an attack on these schools, and stated that it could be
said that these schoOls were in a satisfactory state because the
Bible was read there, and, consequently, Roman Catholics were
excluded. He stated that Mr. Stitt supported Mr. Gladstone
in that attack, and he was therefore muck surprised to learn
that, when Mr. Stitt addressed the electors of the ward,
he stated that he was not opposed to religious instruc-
tion being given in these schools, and that the rector
and the bishop of the diocese were in favour of the
voluntary, system. They were all aware that neither the
Bishop of Chester nor Rector Campbell would be contented
that religious instruction should be voluntary only. They
were aware large grants were made for the religious
instruction of the poorer classes, and it was very disin-
genuous in Mr. Stitt to state of the bishop and the rector
that they were in favour of the voluntary system of education.
No man could rejoice more in a man being a Liberal than he
(the chairman) did, when his liberality was of such a character
as to improve the education and secular condition of the work-
ing classes; but it was a very different thing when they were
called upon to sacrifice a principle. Ile had been interested
himself for many years in the question of education, and he
could assure them, if Scriptural education was taken from the
schools, it would be impossible to maintain the national schools
in Liverpool. He had before him the remarks that Mr. Stitt
made in 'the Council Chamber, and he would call their
attention to that statement, which was as -follows :
Mr. Gladstone considered the statement of Mr. Anderson was
not satisfactory, and he feared from his silence that he could
report nothing satisfactory as regarded the attendance of
Roman Catholics, who were one-fourth of the population, and
in their absence any statement of efficiency was a snare and de-
hision.---Mr. Stitt then said he had no desire to rip up the
school question; it was not the time, for the subject was far
too important to be entered into without notice. At the same'
time, he believed that many gentlemen entertained, with hint,
opinions different from the chairman; not that they differed•
as to the value of the education. The thing might be valuable,
but there might he a right and a wrong mode of supplying the
people with education ; and for his part he had a strong
opinion that it was not the duty of the Corporation to.supply
the people with education. It was not the time to raise the
question ; but, with. Mr. Gladstone, he ,should be extremely
glad if the chairman could give them sonic assurance that the
arrangements in connection with the Corporation Schools, for
which the Council paid so much. were of such a nature as to
allow the inhabitants of all creeds and sections to avail them-
selves of them, and that„in fact, they did avail themselves of
them.---He would call their attention to the fact that Mr. Stitt
stated that he would be glad if the arrangements made in those
schools were such that children of every denomination could
attend them, sad that meant that the Bible was to .be taken
away ; so that when he stated that Mr. Stitt was opposed to
religious instruction, he stated that which was deducible to
Mr. Stitt's own language. He proceeded to say that they
did not want the advice of the peripatetics who were going
about from one ward to another, giving instruction as to who
should represent them, as the foLowers of Aristotle used to
walk up and down the school when giving instruction. And
among the peripatetics of Liverpool he reckoned Messrs.
Jeffery, Aspinall, Stitt, Melly, &c. He considered that in Mr.
Came they would have a man that would attend to their
interests. He concluded an able speech by introducing Mr.
Came to the meeting.
Mr. CARNE, on rising, was received with deafening cheers,
and rounds of Kentish fire. He said it was quite impossible to
express in words his feelings at the kind reception they gave
him ; but as the chairman had told them, he would do all in
his power, in every shape and form, if they returned him to
the Council, to look after their interests in particular, as well
as after the interests of the town at large. He had been thirts,
years in Liverpool, and held a considerable position in mer-
cantile life ; and he thought he had acquired such knowledge
and experience, that he should be able to do his duty if he was
returned to the Council. He was not able to point at what he
had done as his opponent (if he might so speak) Mr. Stitt
could do, whilein the Council. Mr. Stitt could bring forward
statistics of various matters that he could not do, but he felt
that if he were returned--and from what he had seen he had
little doubt about it---he would be able to do his duty. At
Kirkdale he had explained his religious principles, but he found
that some parties thought he did not sufficiently explain
himself. He said that he had attended at the Rev. Mr. Ew-
bank' s for many years, and that he was attached to what was
called the low church, but he did not say anything to the pre-
judice of any one who differed from him in opinions ; on the
contrary those who had an ear for music, and coasidered that
it contributed to their devotiona' feelings, and attended at the
churches where it was practised, he was perfectly satisfied
that they should do so. He considered it would be absurd in
him, or any one else, to attempt to condemn them. He went
on to make a few comments on Mr. Stitt's speech, and showed
clearly that Conservatism was the true politics of the British
Constitution' as Conservatives were the only true reformers.
He sat down amid great cheering.
Mr. Baaxma. then proposed the following resolution :

"That this meeting having heard Mr. Carne's statement, ap-
proves of him as a fit and proper person to represent this ward
in the Town Council."
Mr. ligNltY WILSON seconded the resolution, which was
unanimously adopted.
Mr. T. D. ANDSIISON rose, and was received with long-con-
tinued cheering. He expressed his gratitude for the welcome
they gave him, which showed that he still retained their
confidence as one of their representatives. A report had
gone abroad that he was not giving his cordial support. to
Mr. Came, and he had come there at considerable inconve-
nience to himself to give that report a flat contradiction. He
believed Mr. Came well qualified to be one of their represen-
tatives, and he should be very happy to have him for a col-
league. He had a very high regard for Mr. Stitt, but
they differed on some points on which he believed Mr.
Came and he would agree. lie did not believe that
Mr. Stitt was in favour of excluding the Bible from the Cor-
poration Schools, but that he was inclined to give them up
altogether. He was convinced that if gentlemen of Mr. Stitt s
political opinions gained the ascendancy in the Council, the
Bible would be excluded from the schools, or the schools would
be sold. (Hear, hear.)
The meeting was afterwards addressed by Mr. Crosthwatte,
Mr. Hubback, and Mr. Hutchison ; and the proceedings ter-
minated by Mr. Dreaper proposing a vote of thanks to the
Chairman.

COURT AND OFFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.

WINDSOR CASTLE, Thursday.—There was no addi-
tion to the royal dinner party yesterday. The Queen,
accompanied by the Princess Alice and Prince Arthur,
rode in the riding-house this morning. The Hon. Lucy
Kerr was in attendance.
The Infanta of
.Spain, wife of Prince Adalbert of
Bavaria, has just, given birth to a son. Prince Adalbert,
who is brother of King Otho, is, it may be remembered,
designated as the heir presumptive to the throne of
Greece.

BANKRUPTS.

George Freeman and Henry Bentley Wrixon, lead
and glass merchants, Denham-street.
J. Davidson and Adolph Kanter, merchants, St.
Mary Axe.
William Gray, grocer, Ipswich.
Thomas Jackson, contractor, Cannon-street. • ,
William Archer, draper, Leicester.
William Moore, shoe manufacturer, Leicester-street.
John Henry and William Randell Smith, victuallers,
Bristol.
William John Scribbin, butcher, Plymouth.
Robert Brown, brewer, Great Driffield.

THE HUDSON'S BAY COMPANY.—The capital em-
ployed by the company is £1,265,068, and consists of
stock standing in the names of the proprietors, £500,000 ;
valuation of the company's lands and buildings, ex-
clusive of Vancouver's Island and Oregon, £318,884.
Amount expended tip to September 16, 1856, in
sending miners and labourers to Vancouver's Island,
in the coal mines, and other objects of coloniza-
tion, exclusive of the trading establishments of the
company, and which amount will be repayable by
the Government if possession of the island resumed,
£81,071. Amount invested in Fort Victoria and
other establishments and posts in Vancouver's Island,—
this amount is not exactly ascertained,--estimated at
£75,000. Amount paid to the Earl of Selkirk for Red
River Settlement, £85,111. Property and investments
in the territory of Oregon ceded to the United States
by the treaty of 1846, and which are secured to the
company as possessory right under the treaty, $1,000,000,
—say, £200,000. The distribution of profits to
the shareholders for the years 1847 to 1856, both
inclusive, have been,-1847, 10 per cent. dividend ;
1848, 10 per cent. ; 1849, 10 per cent. ; 1850, 20 per
cent., of which 10 per cent. was added to stock ; 1861,
10 per cent. ; 1852, 15 per cent., of which 5 per cent.,
to stock
w;
aslBsa3d,de£dlBo4ssto. 6ad.; pleBrs4c,enito.,
per
wwhasichoddieBd
cent. ; 1855, 10 per cent., and 1856, 10 per cent. The
price of the stock, ez dividend was,—July, 1847, £2OO ;
1848, £2OO ; 1849, £2OO ; 1850, £2lO ; 1851, £210;
1852, £215 ; 1853, £225 ; 1854, £2lO ; 1855, £2073 ;
1856, £2OO. Out of the 268 proprietors in July, 1856,
196 purchased their stock at from 220 to 240 per cent.

=.=.=.

OCIOI3ER 9, 1859

CORRESPONDENCE.

[ we do not hold ourselves responsible far the opinions of
our correspondents.] ,

LADING ENQUIRY AT ST. JAMES'S
CHURCH.

TO THE EDITOR OF TIES NORTHERN DAILY TIMES.
• 4. 4, 4- „ ~,.„.october 27th, 1859.
ft Snt,—An entirely false impresstoh. ha?...nne forth to_
the public as to the above case. The affair really. stands
thus :—Last night I was replying, point by point, to
oa
re
nteod dissolveta ntipth. ems
stands
n meeting.dsAfirb y allwn had
adjourned
dee
wm emer-
gency the clerk's counter stalemant, when a most discreditable
disturbance took place ;—an irregular and illegal at-
upon oar notice : I allude to
aunptLsol Monday neat,
dneedath,
himself
sel.f3o
Pew proprietor, there-
fore he is excluded by St. James's Local Act from tak-
ing any part in this enquiry. Yet this man, after the
tegMeniril.cpytJowlhnasadmj Wilson—he is not a
adjournment, did not hesitate to propose that most
unbecoming show of hands which you have noticed.
By some means several persons had been admitted into
the church. Those men, with a few others who had no
clear title to adjudicate, held up their hands as has been
described. The opposite party very properly declined to
notice the movement.—l am, sir, faithfully yours,
LEWIS F. THOMAS, 8.A., Incumbent.
RAILWAY REFLECTORS.

TO THE EDITOR OP THE NORTHERN DAILY TIMES.

SlR,—Within the last few days there have appeared
several notices of a patent purporting to be the inven-
tion of Mr. C. Batty, of Manchester; for enabling the
guard and driver of a railway train to communicate,
thereby preventing those fearful accidents which have
been of weekly occurrence. Such an invention has
been frequently attempted, but hitherto unsuccessfully,
and it has become a desideratum that the press has
earnestly advocated.
As the inventor of a plan 'oy which so many valuable
lives can be saved deserves public approbation and
support, and claiming this as my invention, I trust you
will grant me a little space to briefly state a few facts in
connexion with it.

In the year 1858, from the great number of accidents
arising from the want of communication between guard,
driver, and passengers, I conceived the plan of adopting
reflectors or mirrors, so that the whole of the-train could
be seen at a glance by the driver or guard; and, having
completed my design, I laid my plan before the Local
Board of Directors of the London and' North-Western

Railway several months before'Mr: Batty introduced it.
The board so far approved of my plan as to refer it to
two of their engineers and the carriage-builder, for their
consideration and report. After several applications for
their decision, and being kept in cruel suspense for
several months, I received a letter from the engineers,
saying that they could not recommend' the directors to
adopt the plan of placing reflectors or mirrors on the en-
gines before the drivers. Although I offered to fit
up one at my own expense, it was not accepted;
and after many months of suspense—being only a
working man—l was perforce obliged to content myself
with the decision of the eminent engineers of the com-
pany that the plan was not feasible ; but in a short time
after-, one of the engineers who had condemned my plan,
I foand, was fitting up an engine at Crewe with
reflectors (my plan), which he himself acknowledged.
I have written' three letters to the Chairman and
Directors, pleading my cause, and respectfully. re-
questing my right to the invention to be recognised ;
but beyond a mere acknowledgment of the receipt of
one, I have met with no redress ; therefore, the only
remedy that remains to me, is to lay the matter before
the public, and leave it for them to Judge between me
and the railway officials 'whether in Justice I should be
deprived of my right to an invention for the, benefit of
the public,' which is now recognized and extolled—
whether, in fact, because I am a poor .man, the inven-
tion is quietly to be taken from me, without recompense
or apology: :With this view, I have as briefly as possible
laid tho outline of the case before you.
In the notices by the press, it is stated that it will
undoubtedly be attended with important results ; and it
is imagined that it will ultimately be adopted by most
of the railways ; that it was exhibited before several of
the directors of the principal lines in the kingdom, who
were unanimous in expressing their approval of the
great practical utility of it. Yet, this engineer of the
London and North-western Railway told me lately, in
the presence of a director, that it was not the intention
of the company to adopt either my plan or. Mr. Batty's.
If the utility of the plan is such as described, it will
be fora. higher authority to judge how far it is to be
carried out, and its adoption made compulsory.—l am,
sir, respectfully, WILLIAM GRANT.
22, Hatfield-street, Edge-hill, Liverpool.

EVERTON AND KIRKDALE WARD.

. •
"OBTAINING VOTES UNDER FALSE PRETENCBS."

TO THE EDITOR OF THE NORTHERN DAILT TIMES;

Sru,—Under the above heading I have read a letter
in the. Daily Post, of this morning, from Mr. Charles
Millward, the secretary of Mr. Stitt's committee, and
trust, in your usual desire for fair play, you will find
space for these few remarks.
Now the only " false pretences" Mr. Millward shows,
is the heading of his peculiar epistle ; for those parties
who signed the requisition to Mr. Illubback are free to
vote as they choose ; but as Mr. Carne's opinions are
much in unison with those of Mr. Hubback, it is only
natural they will vote for the Conservative candidate.
Where are the false pretences ? I will endeavour to
explain what I understand by false pretences, and will
base my explanations, on positive facts, Some two or,'
three weeks ago, the canvassers for signatures to Mr.
Stitt's requisition induced several Conservatives to sign it,
under the representation that it was "only a matter of
form," "simple courtesy to Mr. Stitt," " there would
certainly be no opposition," and so forth. Now, to a
great extent, these really false pretences have succeeded ;
and the.unfortunate Conservatives, seeing they have
been done, and expressing a desire to have a proper
understanding, are threatened by those truly liberal men
to post their names on the walls if they vote contrary.
The above are facts. In Kirkdale, and the neighbour-
hood of Bootle-lane, it succeeded admirably. Some of
the inns were visited in the evening ; and when the
cheering glass was going round, the " matter of form "
petition was introduced.
Now, Mr. Millward, take your choice of " false pre-
tences." VERITAS.
Kirkdale, Oct. 27, 1859.

IMM

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