Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-03-16 00:00:00

IMPERIAL, PARLIAINIENT.

nousE. OF LORDS.—TUESDAY.
• Their Lordships met at five o'clock.
STADE DUES. p ie,T..11 Earl of Clarendon put a question to the Secretary for
,of 75,tign Affairs with reference to the termination of the treaty_
.0..bp50...;te: with Hanover relative to the Stade Dues. e
erved that a committee of the House of Commons having
unanimously last session in favour of terminating
that treaty, it was believed that notice had been given ond
j!le 14th A
-.llgnst, but the Hanoverian Government asserte se the notice was not then (riven ;• or if given, that the
ieretary for Foreign Affairs': .when on attendance on her
aieStY last year, had promised Count Platen, thg nano-
iiieerttn Minister, that it should be withdrawn. These con.: in._nice, statements had led to doubt and uncertainty, and
tisitry to British interests, and he asked, therefore, whether
ue,,,reaty Would terminate on the 14th August next.
hektolT Earl of Mahnesbury said that on the 11th of August'
treat Count Platen that notice of the termination of the
~ would be served on him in a few days ; that Count 00,,Tn begged that it might not be done ; but he (the Earl walsu-ainesbnry) stated that it must be given, and that it
Was iiven accordingly on the 14th of August. That notice
thereuillY, formally, and officially received by Hanover, and
110 hoped be no doubt _that it took effect. from that day.
be r aPed that by diplomatic means the Stade. Dues would.
conie 40, and that the grievance under which British
rijaeree laboured would'be removed. house adjourned at half-past five.

_SE OF COMMON S.—TUESDAY.
At the • CHURCH RATES.
rmornmg sitting,r:ehastoltrrur:oo.nritrelawney movd the second reading of the Church
Ais Abolition Bill.
:fftth,,raoved, as an amendment, the following
That any amendment of the law relating to
rug Rates, which should exempt persons from contribut-
fr me,.,,solne other place cf worship than the parish church,
that° tilue payment of the rate ; at the same time he thought
the elle machinery for the support of the fabric. of
nlion 4iireu of England, should be continued in operation
coesid e members of her own community, is worthy of the
viz% eration of this house."
'draw 11.6' seourt appealed to the hon. member to with-
the di ~isfam°ndinent. The present was an occasion in which
rateshad question of the abolition or retention of church
Mr. to be tried.
-elvart admitted the amendment to be at present
be adoadvi atbele
A but hoped that some such arrangement would
l‘lr.'otril'ffist a future time.
tt 13 'l,``4ll withdrew the amendment.
o dill j)„.'°l3e then moved a second amendment,"”Thiatt
that
▪ fret, '„read a second time that day six months
th -A'ue anti-Church State Association he contended
tl+irl).4'y for abolition arose.
"Mr. eedes seconded the amendment.
the ta Osborne said that the compulsory char.acter of
its essz was an ecclesiastical encroachment, and illegal
heti:nee. It was in its origin a purely voluntary pntr
°if 413-(,I;„WhY should not Lord Derby' adopt the principle
ItoolisC,'"en, which he had already recognised when he
kr• a" the vestry cess in Ireland ?
eolleius9 the
declared that he had at last come to the
Could :" that this festering disease in the body politic
in.o et be Cured, except by excision. It had been. an
tie .7 at once to the church and to the whole community.
h° gold
b suPPort the second reading or the bill, in the
tens 'sat Some provision might be added for the main- of th
Mr c; e church fabric in poor districts.
" • Ilerbert said, that the total abolition of the rate
fur
one
the substitution of an injustice on the churchmen
tt. °lie on the Dissenter He felt that church rates in the
ITT°sent form must go. 'He approved of the plan proposed
hir Eltont that the rate should be abolished, but that
ti e conotry churchmen should be formed into a corpora-
tfon for the
e vestryvote Until some such provision was made, he
NI vote against the bill.
Mr. 1.6
Pael(e oPposed the bill, which was supported by
eenwood.
.14Cor T
bad 4. • Manners protested against an agitation which
'eh 'et. its object the extermination of the. established
cilizre;l4laandd against the bill as a gross injustice to the poor
• Sir J. Turelawney replied. The abolition of Vestry Cess
in Ireland had, he contended, preserved the Established
Church in Ireland and the abolition of Church-rates would not • • • , njure it in England.
t'he house divided
by 242 to 168 , when the amendment was negatived
The bill was then read a second time.
EVENIN SITTING.
It The house resumed at six o'clock, when an hon. member
'nee moved that it be counted, there being only 34 I
members present.
The hr.1,.-4 Lto',:i adjourned till to-morrow,