Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-02-18 00:00:00

TOXTETH BOARD OF GUARDIANS

Yesterday, the usual weekly meeting of these guardians
was held iii- the board-room of the public-offices„Park-
road, Mr. Urquhart, in the chair. The other members
present were—Messrs. Moss, H. Leyland, W. Layland,
Johnson, Harrison, Miller, John Wilson, Craig, Joseph
Wilson, Johns, Ogden, Grindrod, Siddeley, Rogers, and
J. B. Hughes.

The gulrdians granted cheques to the amount of £ll5
to several relieving officers, for the out-door relief of
the poor.
The offer male by the body of Friends for the 6,640
yards of land adjoining the new workhouse, for which
they proposed to give £1,200, and to build the wall be-
tween their ground and that of the guardians, Mr. Moss
moved that the offer be accepted, and Mr. Leyland se-
conded the motion. It was finally agreed to, on
the condition that the Quakers shall undertake to Pay
any additional expenses incurred by the guardians, in
consequence of their sewer, being subject to the approval
of the Poor Law Board.
The Clerk read a minute of the medical relief com-

mittee as follows :
" At a meeting of the medical committee, held on the
14th inst., it was moved by Mr. Moss, and seconded by Mr.
Johnson-4 That notice be given to the vaccinators of the
township to determine the vaccination contracts forth-
with, and that an advertisement be inserted in the papers
for the appointment of two medical officers for the town-
ship, and a dispenser, upon the terms already agreed to by
the guardians."
Mr. Joseph Wilson said he was of opinion that the
board ought to do without the services of a dispenser.
Mr. Moss said it was in accordance with the recom-
mendation of the Poor Law Board that the committee
had formed the resolution, and it was submitted to the
board for their confirmation. He would say that they
should advertise for a dispenser, at a salary of
£7O a-year, and try it for six months ; and then, if it
failed, it could be given up. He thought
it would be discreditable to the committee to have the
resolution rescinded. He thought that an advertiselnent
should beinserted in the papers specifying, that all duly
qualified men were eligible as officers to the guardians,
whether their mode of treatment was allopathy or
homceopathy. He would therefore propose that they
should not object to the application of any man on account
of his mode of treatment, provided he was qualified in
other respects.
Mr. Harrison said, that these medical 'establishments
were very expensive. They could get their medicines from
the respectable druggists as they were required. They
would, in order to establish a dispensary, have to fit up
an establishment which ought to do for twenty or thirty
years. He would, therefore, object to a medical estab-
lishment for the present.
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Mr. Moss said, they were not in a position
dtoiscruse-soepd7 tated
of by the Poor-law Board.

The Chairman held Mr. Moss's opinion, untess some
member was prepared to give notice of motion to have
the resolution rescinded.

Mr. Joseph Wilson gave notice of a motion for next

ard clay

Mr. John Wilson said it was simply ridiculous for
these members to be coming forward with their
objections. They were members of the medical com-
mittee, and if they did not like to attend the meeting,
having as good an opportunity as other members, they
should not come to the board to raise objections. Every
one knew that they had a dispenser when the township
was much less than at present.
The Chairman said, there was a remark made by Mr.
Moss which ought not to be lost sight of. As unprofes-
sional men, we are not competent to enter into the merits
of allopathy and homoeopathy, but in our capacity as
guardians, we are obliged to exercise our judgment in
adopting that which we think is best for the comfort of
the poor and the economy of the township. I, therefore,
think, in common fairness, that homoeopathists should be
invited to offer themselves as candidates for these situa-
tions—and more particularly so, seeing. that the Poor-law
Board leaves it to our own discretion who we should
appoint, at the same time showing they ap-
preciate highly the principle of homoeopathy, for
they themselves are homoeopathists —for the Poor-
law commission, and the general board of
health, make it imperative and binding on the guardians
to see that the principle of homoeopathy be applied
throughout the kingdom, to prevent disease and death
in vaccination. We, as guardians, ought therefore to
recommend the same principle, to restore health and
preserve life, as wrought out in the homoeopathic treatment,
by which mortality is smaller, the duration of illness
shorter, and the expense much less than by the old system
of treatment. But, as guardians, we are not to discuss
the merits of the systems, as legislatures follow the example
of the Liverpool Town Council, who allow the system
of medical cure to grow without persecuting one system,
or patronising another, but treating allopathy, homoeo-
pathy, hydropathy, and all other pathies, on an equality,
where good is doing, by supporting them in their
dispensaries and in their valuable baths, their sup-
good to the- people thai -all 'that could De monts
by both homoeopathy and allopathy put together.
At the same time, he must not lose sight how homoeopathy
is gaining in favour with the inhabitants, as shown by
the returns of the Allopathic and Homoeopathic Dispen-
saries. The last year the Southern and Northern Dispen-
saries issued 32,594 prescriptions, while the Homoeopathic,
including the public and self sustaining dispensary
for the poor, issued 32,704 prescriptions, being more
prescriptions issued than the -whole of the issues of
the Northern and Southern Dispensaries, with all
their extensive places and large host of medical men.
I, therefore, would recommend that duly qualified
homoeopathists should be invited as candidates for
these selections.

Mr. Hughes said, by the introduction of homoeopathy,
they would not need a large establishment for drugs.
It was finally agreed that they should receive applica-
tions from any one properly qualified.
The Clerk then read the following letters received
from two of the medical officers .
" TO THE CHAIRMAN AND BOARD OF GUARDIANS,

TOR TETE PARK

" Toxteth-park, Feb. 16, 1859.
" Gentlemen,—Pray accept my acknowledgments for
your courtesy in favouring me with a copy of Mr. Arch-
bold's opinion. Ire shows very clearly your remissness
of duty in not arranging your intended medical changes
before you had committed yourselves by entering on a
second year.
_ _

" Now, as to his assumption that the medical officers
are at present working on sufferance, allow me to ask
you, Who ever proposed to me to hold the office on suf-
ferance ? You never did. Again, Who authorised you
to avail yourselves of my services on sufferance? I
never did. Finally, I know of no contract or understand-
ing between us except an annual one, and to that agree-
ment I hold you.

" If, in blind precipitation, you determine to involve
the township in the expense of a double staff of medical
officers, you will of course take the risk of being sur-
charged with the expenses. —I remain, gentlemen, your
obedient servant, "E. Warrrui."

" TO WILLIAM CLEAVER, ESQ.
"Liverpool Feb. 16, 1859.
" I beg to acknowledge the receipt of Mr. kr chbold's
opinion, upon which I have taken legal advice.
"I am advised that Mr. Archbold's conclusions are
not warranted by law, and that I am legally entitled to
my salary until the end of the year, which commenced
from the Ist of October last; and I have, therefore, only
to repeat my former determination to act as surgeon to
the board until the Ist day of October 'next.--I -um, sir,
yours faithfully, " B.'BARRETT."

Mr. Moss said, the letter of Dr. Whittle was respect-
ful, but that of Dr. Barrett was impertinent in the highest
degree. He had no doubt that the guardians had as good
legal advisers as the medical officers, and these ,men
ought to have known that their threats as to surcharg-
ing the board would amount to nothing, and
the board had power to discharge them on
a moment's notice.
The Clerk said, he would be accountable to any mem-
ber of the board who would be put to any personal ex-
pense on account of the surcharge in this matter.
Mr. John Wilson moved, and Mr. Moss seconded, that
the vaccinators get one month's notice, to the effect that
after that time their services would not be required.
The Clerk said, the guardians were indebted to the
treasurer £144 4s 4d, and that he refused to advance
further.

Mr. Moss moved., and Mr. Rogers seconded, that the
officers be called upon to admice £l,OOO for the general
purposes of the township.
This concluded the business.

On inquiring at the Northern Hospital last night, we
learned that John Harris, the rigger, who fell from the
foretopmast of a schooner in the Stanley Dock, and
received severe injuries, is in a most precarious condition,
and it is doubtful whether he will recover.
OUR MAYOR AT HER MAJESTY'S LEVEE.—We under-
stand that orders have been received to the effect, that
our worthy Chief Magistrate, with Mr. Turner and Mr.
John Stuart, the mover and seconder of the address to
her Majesty, are to attend at the next levee to present
the address. And it is further stated, that there is e
sensation amongst court dressmakers, as the repr9senta-
fives of Liverpool will, of course, hues to appear in that
very questionable—or rather unqtionable costume,
called " court dress."

LivEnrooL POLICE INTELLIGENCE.
BEFORE MR. MANSFIELD.
a Pool?. Box.—Mr. Mansfield acknowledged the
it of £6 for the poor box, from "A. Z.," a portion
applied to Martha Lumsden, the poor sailor's wife
t ease appeared a few days ago in our paper.
stria ON. A YOUNG LADY. —A young woman, named
Armstrong, was charged with having assaulted Miss
the daughter of Mrs. Lyons, a publican in London-
_ Mr. Bluck defended. The complainant said the
prisorier came into the house, when it was opened in the
waramang. - There was a young man with her, and she
asairaf-11 worse for liquor, and, on asking for some more,
ere witness trefused to give her any. The prisoner then
On getting a bed in the house, but was refused,
then she struck and scratched the face of complain-
.rteßlack made some excuse for the prisoner, and
and costs.
THREE "QUID."—Two young women,
Catherine Buller and Ann Kelly, were charged for
; a watch from W. Duff, in a house in Banistre-street.
, officer 142, said he was at the door of the house
he heard the prisoner inside, talking about a
a," and one of them said she could raise three,
1" 'on it. Mr. Mansfield : What's a " quid ' ?
is A pound. I listened for a shot% time, and the
said, we are all right if that Lynch (meaning
ois not listening. On hearing this I knocked, and
the door was open I rushed in and arrested the
ers with the watch in their possession. Mr.
for the prisoners: Why this watch is not worth
turd ; " its a common verge watch, made about the
Noah's flood, (the big rain). Lynch : No, its a
'ouble jewelled. Mr. Bluck : It does not tick like
Mr. Clough : Oh, but yours is a gold lever, of
lue ; but you are not so good a judge of a lever
you are of a brief and fee, although you are an
a. Mr. Bluck : And to your many other
is' you add that of a judge of watches.
Zar. yea think this watch was made to "go ? "
Witr. Mansfield : It " went " last night, at all
airrarts. Mr. Bluck (to Lynch) : Did you not tell the
-,Er of the watch that he could not get it, unless he
to the station-house and charged the prisoners ? No ;
I said was this—He wanted me to give him up the
without going to the station, and I said "we" did
in that way. Mr. Bluck : Who is your
"we" business ? Lynch : Why the ends
(Laughter.) That is a highly respectable
,if we could only find him (her) out. It is the
Eime I have heard of that individnal being in part-
Astip with a policeman. After some further amusing
skeerrations, the prisoners were sent for trial, for having
"lam time by the forelock."
Tiein-e IN A. BEERHOUSE.—Peter Coyle, a well-dressed
acra, formerly a publican in Williamson-square, was
cleaged with. having stolen a gold watch, a silk handker-
daisec and a pipe, the property of Owen Davies. Mr.
Collb appeared for the defence. It was stated that
tlkeprisoner went to the beerhouse of Robert Reed, at the
costaer of Queen-street and Pellew-street, in company
'fit another man. The prosecutor was there; intoxicated,
masa having missed his property, he gave an alarm, and
f(leeT was called. The prisoner's companion escaped,
cad us the watch was not found it was supposed he had
tato ait with him. The prisoner was not suffered to
ensupe, and having been given into custody, he wes
and the handkerchief and pipe were found upon
i4he prisoner was remanded.
CsaARGE or STEALING TIMBER.--John Rogers, a well-
awned man, a joiner, was charged on suspicion of having
aloSen a quantity of mahogany, valued at £7. Mr. Cobb
eiesded. Officer Inskip found the prisoner with the
limber in his possession, and as he did not account satis-
factorily, he took him into custody. Having ascertained
Int the prisoner had been employed at Mr. Laird's
rI, witness went over there, and was informed that
v.- timber similar to that in the possession of the pri-
- had been missed. The foreman promised to come
1:1 look at the timber, but had not done so. Mr.
lid he was prepared to account for possession' of
'r at the proper time, and the case was remanded
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DI6ONRST''SITOPEOY.--A well-dressed youth,
iNelson Waters, late a shopboy in the employ of
Then Grundy, pawnbroker, Richmond-row, was
‘—kving stolen 10s. worth of postage stamps
belonging to his employer. Mr.
trussed the stamps a few days ago, and having
the prisoner's box in search of them, he found
ne slippers, which belonged to him, and which he
A Rot missed until then. Mr. Mansfield : How long
AS this hopeful lad been with you ? Prosecutor : About
*votes, sir ;he came from the Bluecoat School. The
prim. er bad nothing to say. Mr. Mansfield said he was
Aery sorry that the boy had so disgraced himself and the
frastitution in which he had been educated. The
aslorrirter of that charity stood very high, and it was said
Mira the boys from that institution did uncommonly well
--P-ter than those from other institutions. The
vrEgslo3. *iion'N"ny AND CASTELLAIN.
MIR CHARGE OF BREAKING AN ARM.—Robert Rim-
isasr-vas charged for having broken the arm of John
"Airtii. Mr. Bluck was for the defence. This
„as partly. heard on the previous day,
slid was published in our paper of yesterday. The neces-
auri rziidence of the service of notices, &c., was given.
Er_ Bluck addressed the bench, and" contended that
7-were of opinion that the case bad been made out,
--‘'ould say it was an accident, and therefore reduce the
Mr. Castellain said he was satisfied with
evidence, and made-an order for £5, instead of £lO,
Inght by the c)mplainant, thus agreeing with Mr.
'‘at it wts an accident.

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L'VALE IN THE RIPER.—The captain of a Dutch ship,
ate' the Harmonic., summoned Messrs. Hetherington
Sar .411 as, damage done by the Ant ferry boat on the
alight of the 21st January. Mr. Aspinall, solicitor, was
Ltic the complainant, and Mr. Jenkins for the defence.
Tie short facts were these. On the night in question
Ant was at anchor at the potteries, and the
man at, the King's dock wall. It
appeared
't the Ant dragged her anchor, and drifted'
'st the Harmonie, doing the amount of
alleged. The defence was that the affair was
11, and that The defendants were not, therefore,
On, hearing the evidence on both sides, the
Tougistrates said they, concluded the steamer to be in
Ttss.,'l, and made an. order for the full amount claimed.
Captain Jevons, of the steamer Brother Jonathan,
summoned by the Captain of a French vessel,
Lne Bon Pasterna, for over S 8 damage.
Aspinall. (solicitor), was for the complainant,
_ aptain Newton., the manager of the Steam-
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Copn t whic the Brothr Jonathan
licangs, w mas fory the h
defence. This case was like the last.
'The defence was, that the steam-tug was knocked against
..z.•fiat, Und,thus she was forced against the Frenchman.
&Pox- hearing witnesses on both sides, the bench decided
wit :here was no want of caution and attention on the
e persons on board the steamer, and that it was
t ; and, therefore, they dismissed the complaint.
wton applied fon the costs of the case as against
t their Worships refused to make any

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that" these cases had stood over tc
,ndanee of the Harbour-master. hut,

5 BOARDING-HOUSE

—Samuel

is summoned by Mr. Henry Murphy, the ou
rintendent of the Local Marine Board under tl

heprerchant Sbipping Act. Mr. Cobb a,
cution, and Mr. Bluck for the defen
the statement of Mr. Cobb,
ailor, named John Caldicut,

that on thi
o lodged a

sto honse of defendant, signed articles to go to. sea in a
tiled the Stork, and got an advance note for
6d., which he paid to Weeks, and got tis. ld.
On the 13th, it was stated that the defendant
hiin to leave and sign articles in another ship,
because he got more wages.
•••• the 14th,

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th.. Stork; anti then he µ informed- Mr.
NNl:by that Weeks made him do so. On this he was
``,:.-1:7;;ed, and admitted as a witness against Weeks.
ction of the act under which the charge was
tatcs, that any one persuading,'or attempting to
- induce a sailor
to leave a ship, was liable to
RlO. This as the case for the corn-
Bltick endeavoured to 7‘
were made void, in consequence 01
e contemplated 'voya, and that share by the' captainge of the Stork. ri• and argument-lye speech in' favour
and '• called two witnesses, but their
1, not alter the fasts. The magistrates after
,ultation, found. the defendant guilty, and
10 and costs. Mr. .131tiek said he would
' the decision;.

how that

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