The Northern Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-03-28 00:00:00

Association were the most ardent supporters of Mt'
Ewart on this occasion. (Cheers, • and • "Oh, oh.")
NoW they. were-called on to elect a gentleman to represent
them for the nett seven years, and if the question were that
of the Chinese war—(great conftision)—if it were' the
Chinese war, he had every confidence in Mr. Evart
—(cheers)—aril if' it were one of foreign • policy,
there was do man more ready to • uphold the
national honour. (Hear, and loud cheering.) Bat the
Rustfian and Persian wars were .ended, and in a very short
time:he trusted the China war would be brought to a close
too. (Cheers.) The next Parliament. would be essentially
one ,which would have to .devote itself to home policy—
(hear, hear, and cheers),—and 'when we ewe to consider
what were the principles of Mr. Ewart a most
ardent supporter
.of.: ,direct taxation, and. :a Marge
increase of , the lacunae! Tax—_(fond cheers) —he
argued that the 10001113 tax was most inquisitorial as
well as unjust, and unequal, in being levied—(chears)—
taxing fundholders whose stock was worth 25 years'
purchase, and taxing a merchant when Profits one year
were swallowed up by the losses of the n'xt. (Heara
He eves in faveurhof indirect taxation, to he leafed in the
same menaer as Napoleon did during the French revolu-
tion. Oil the question Of education hd alleged that secular
education-was opposed by most of the people in England,
and' havitig effered a few other observations, he concluded'
by seconding the nomination of Mr. Horsfall. (Prolonged
cheering.) • •
Mr. Heywodd, on coming forward to propose Mr. J. C.
Ew4rt, said, I promise not to detain yon with any lengthened
observations or to go into statistical subjects, as the seconder of
Mr. Horsfall has done. (Cheers, and hisses ) Ido p:cenis • ,
yon'that if I eel note iritet.rupted I will mot detain you at any
great length, and lat once beg to propose ass fit and prepet
person to represent this borough in Parliament, Mr J C Ewart.
(Enthusiastic cheers, followed 'by groans. and hisses from( the
other party.) He has been yonreepresentative. (Cheers.) He
has been in the balance, .and his not been found. wanting—
(Great apelause and cries of No, no")---and .I am sure,
gentlemen, he has gained the respect of All parties, and
he is a sincere supporter of the town, in which he was
bore ; and in po'ieles he is. while, a steady friend of
progress, a tens rot© reformer. (Cheers from the
Liberals, and grouts from the opposite eida of the
hustings.) lam not e :Me hete, gentlemen, to say one
word against. Mr. Horsfall, for I have been tore long
acqaeinted with bini for that. (Clie,ers) I have been
on ..the —noose intim-etc terms with him, and I am
pleased Co say that I respect. hint still—(loud'elieers)—,
and I beg here, on the-so hustings, to thank him for the'
support,'and the way he defended the British merchants
When they were rudely and shamefully assailed by a party
who ha I- no right to do so; and 1-stand here and do most
unheeita.'ingly state that he has the respect and support of
thee:more .moderate of his own party, and. also the party'
to which I:belong—(cheers and hisses)—and I say
that there was no occasion, to have brought forward
any other candidate at. this election. (Great cheering
from his 'Own perty;and strong marks of disapprobation from
the Tory side.) I say that the ,opposite party *might' have been
satisfied wits him sad Mr. F, wart. (Cheers, and cries of " No,
no.") I 'say cvB were satisfied with him: (Cheers) Items
not our intention tohave proposed any other candidate (Great
interrupion ) I say that the more moderate of Mr. Horsfales
party had no desire to have any other candidate. (Cheers.) But
gentlemen, we decided in eating in accordance with the
wishes of the most moderate of our own party, and bring
forward only otis candidate, although there were some of
our 'friends who thought that we might lava had two.
(Cheers and marks of disapprobation.) but, gentlemen,
I was not of that. opinion. (flear, hear, and loud
cheers.).. Bat I do think that this .c ntest might
have been avoided. (Cheers, and cries of " No, no," and
" Why oppose Turnen't) , Gentlemen, I have. important
duties that call me• elsewhere, therefore I shall conclude
with prp.pesing es a fir. and proper person, Mr. J. C.
Ewan, to represent this town in Parliament, and I have
ro doubt but that he will be real ned. (Great cheering
from the Liberals,,and marks of disapprobation from the
Tories.).
Mr. James, Aikin , seconded Mr. Ewart's nomination.
Ile,was received With a storm of -hisses and shoiiting from
theCongervatives, 'which Was kept up without intermission
during tlee whole 'time he essayed to address the MaYor.
He said: Gentlemen, I shall 'not occupy your time by
making• reference, as the seconder of Mr. Horsfall has
done, to the questions mooted by the Financial Reform
Association of Liverpool—(hisses)-abut, gentlemen, some
of us on this•side of the kustings might have referred to I
them, for some of us have been in the habit of being hero
for half a century and more, and advocating the doctrines
which were held at the time to be dangerous and destruc-
tive, but wiiictileow are acknowlealeed to have been,
despite of all that you (the Tories) said, the most salutary
and conservative.. (Cheers.) Gentlemen, Mr. Tobin has
alluded to the fact that, compared with those great
reforms which have been established, very few points of
importance remain at issue between us a but it was for
that very reason that the observation was made
by' Mr:' Heywood that we ought to have been saved
this contest. ('•Yes, yes," " No, no,"'and 'laughter.) I can
speak of•my own knOwledge when I assured you that the feeling
on our side was almost universal that there should be no
cmtest—(laughter)—and I can say of my own 'knowledge,
that the feeling on the pert of a great number of the enlightened
friends 'of Mr Horsfalt was altogether of the same kind.
Gentlemen, td such •an extent was 'that feeling expressed, that
I call upon these gentlemen as men of honor, to give us that
which they almost pledged themselves they would give—to
give us their split vote for Horsfall and Ewart. (Cheers, and
cries of Noa nor and hisses from the. Tories.) Gentlemen,
we not.only -acceded to the.general wish expressed by influen.
tial men on both sides,-. but we have adhered to our intention
in the hope• that, it would have deterred, you from
bringing, forward
•Mr. Turner. From, the alteration
which has . taken place in the register, I am
led to believe that there is not the slightest doubt that-we.
should-have carried :two candidates for thii borough—
(hear, lima, and laughter)--but having acceded to the
request expressed on both sides, we hate adhered to 'our
intention and brought out Mr. E wart only—(cheers)—nut
I do repeat that there are a number of the supporters of
bath Mr. Horsfall. and Mr, Turner. who.stand.pledged to
give us a split vote for Mr. Ewart, (Cries of." No, no,"
and "Yes, yes."). , Gentlemen, I-am sorry that my friend
Mr. Horsfall has not stood upon his own merits. (Hear,
hear.) know that Mr. Ilorsfall stands in this position,
that praise from us would not be at all acceptable. , He
would jttet as soon be without it—(laughter)-a-and there
fore I shall not • •injure him with - his .par. y by prais—
ing him—(hoar, and laughter)—but if he had not been
dragged by by his party.into association with Mr Turner,
I believe he would have rood better in the eelimetion of
men on both sides. (Cheers from the Liberals, and hisses
and cries of "Na damaged g 'ods here," from the Tories.)
Gentle Men, my, friend Mr Ewart—(heers anti hisses)--
has combined in himself those quali,ies which peculiarly
fit hits to be the representative of this great commercial
community. (Cheers.) Mr Ewart was borti in Liam--
pool ;' was bred to lousiness —; he has had much
xperience in business; and his knowledge is such that
hei has been sought' for as a trustee. and director in
various important !public trusts and companies, in his
private . capacity, I dare call on . the world to
utter one disrespect fa word in regard to
his charaeter: (Cheets,) With ' regard to his
public conduct. it has been acknowledged to be marked
by the greatest honesty and ability, and I sin quite sure
he has commanded the respect and esteem of men on both
sides. Gentlemen, these are facts which none of our
opponents will attempt to gainsay.. (Cheers and hisses.)
Gentlemen, a great deal has been said about religion.
Mr. Ewart's reiigion is not of an obtrusive character,
hut his Sincerity as a Churchman is best evidenced by the
fact that he has given large sums to the building and for
the rneintenance. of churches.

[Here the interruption from the Tory party became so
great that it was almost itnpossiblo fur Mr. Aikin to go
'on.]
Mr., Aikin : Gentlemen, in the midst of this
noise and this interruption, it is scarcely pos-
sible that I can continue the arrangensnt of my
address . as intended. I am suffering from
a very bad cold, and cannot exert myself. We heard
with patience the drover and seconder of Mr. Hortfall, and
I call-upon ybu as geatlernen to give" us also a fair healln,g.
(Cheers anti uproar.) You may rely upon it that this
interruption will tell against . you—it wilt go forth to the.
wurl that,fou are aisle of what may. bo nacre I. (Hear,'
hear.) Gentlemen, a plod deal was said with regard to
Lord Palinerstor;being at the head of the Liberal govern
merit at pe,ent, but the very fact of his having been sought
for by so many governments is the strongest pro .f of his
great ability. (Cheers.) Gentlemen, from the time that
Lord Palmerston came over to the Liberal ranks
with .Me. • Ginning, and Mr. Hu Alison, and 'others,
fro'm'' that day to this he has been a 'constant
reformer—(cheers)—he has been a constant advocate of
progress, and I am satisfied that, if he has fair, play, he
will continue to .carry forward measnres. of reform.
(Cheers, and great interruption.) Gentlemen, in the next
Parliament there will be many bills presented affecting
the management of. our 'docks and the Town Dues, and
I say boldly on this hustings, that a more unfortunate
selection as a candidate for Liverpool than Mr. Turner,
under the circumstances, could not by possibility be
made. ,(Loud ' cheers from the Liberals, and
deafening groans and hisses from the iries.)
Gentlemen, I have no * desire to give utterance
t) my sentiments 'on this subject, bat I take the firs.t
opportunity i.•of meeting Mr. Tumid- face to face,
and s,ay.is34l here boldly in his presen9e, that,
mixed up as ins name 'has been with the town dues,
he is not the man of all others to have
the representation of Liverpool. (Cheers, and uproarious cries
of " sit down" from the Forks.) I will en you another thing
if you are not aware of the fact, I ant prepared to
substantiate all that I have said on this subject.
(Hear hear, and loud cheers.) I have written to
Mr. Bushell calling on him to point out one single particular

n my statement with which he could find fault with as in-
correct. (Hear, hear, and cheers.) And I challenge Mr.
Turner, or any of his friends, to point out any misstatement
on my part on this question. I challenge them to
gainsay what I have said. (Cheers.) I regret very
much, on Mr. Turner's own account, that he should
be brought forward as. a, candidate, because I
Wieve he might have got in for same other
borough, and have rendered service to Liverpool, but I
declare that in the House of 'Commons when the word
town dues is mentisned, Mr. Turner will stand hi a false
position. (Cheers.) I invite him here to' ask me any
question on' this subject that he may desire: and I pro.
mitse that he shall nave an answer. • (Applause, and
groaning from the Tories) , I conclude by seconding
Mr. Ewart's nomination. (Cheers )
Mr. Tyrer then came forward to propose Mr.:Turner as a
fit and proper aerie's to' represent the Borough of Liverpool in
the Imperial Parliament. He was received, with cheers,
groans, hisses, and great confusion. He said be felt very
great pleasure in proposing Mr. Turner as a worthy candidate
for the representation of the Borofigh of Liverpool. (Itcar,
and hisses.) He did feel great pleasure in doing so, as he
thought there was no man in England better qualified for the
trust by his great talent for business, and ho had shown that in
many ways, and on all occasions. He was chttitnian of the
Dock Committee, and a director of the Pacific Steam Naviga-
tion Company, and if he were not a first rate man of business
would the merchants of Liverpool have selected him for such
trusts? (Choors,groans, hisses, and great noise) Tyrol.)
was.not ashamed to coafess that ho was no speaker, but lie had
vanity enough to sav--(Confusion, which lost the latter
portion of the sentence.) Ho had vanity enough to tell the
honourable member for Lime street Ward, that ho had some•
knowledge of business—(A Voice : " Three cheers for
Jeffery." C'neera and groans,. hisses, &e.)—and he hoped
the worthy magistrate would not cell him over the coals
for that. (Hear, -hear, and great uproar.) ,If Mr
Turner 'was not a fit man 'to represent them, would Mr
Brocklebank, and Mr Aikin, and other merchants of Liverpool,
who were 'at the other side, have voted for him to occupy the
position which he did in the mercantile classes of 'Liverpool ?
and he would tell them at the other side that they hail net a
man. amongst them fit to hold a candle to him. .(Great uproar.)
If you return Mr Turner—(shouts of "Never," and uproar)—
he (Mr Tyret) had the vanity to say— .
A Voice : " Tyrer, you have vanity enough for any-
thing. We know that,well enough." (Cheers, laughter,
and confusion.)
Mr. Tyrer : I have vanity enough to say that, ai a rtian
of business, I know the capabilities of Mr. Turner as a
mAn of business, and. not one of you Can deny that.
(" No," and cheers with groans) If he is 'fit to sit as,
yoar representative at the dock trust and other important.'
.places, surely he is St- to be your representative in Par-
lisment. (Loud cries of " No," and great confusion.)'
Now, I want-
.to say a few words to Mr. Aiklu:
(Hear, hear, and loud cheers.) lie has stated, 1
am sure, quite unintentionally, what was not the fact. (Here
the confusion was so great, that the only thilig that could be
heard was some allusion to ward meetings, and the famous.
petition against the election of 1861) ) Ile went on to 'say
that that petition was most frivolous and vexatious.

A Voice : "It kicked out Turner, however." (Loud
cheers.)"
Mr. Tyrer : Well, I shall conclude my address
---
A Voice :" So much the bettor. We shall -thank you to
do so." (Loud laughter and cheers.)
Mr. Tyler: I shall conclude my address, as I can't ho
heard, by proposing Mr. Turner as a fit and proper person to
represent you in Parliament. (Loud cheers, groans, hisses,
and great confusion.)
Mr. James Holme came forward to second the nomination
of Mr. Turner, Litt it was all dumb show for some time. ile
said, as well as he could, that it afforded him groat pleasure to
second the motion.

A Voice : " Well, that's wonderful certainly." (Great
laughter, in which the worthy gentleman joined heartily.)
Mr. Hoirne : I say I. feel great satisfaction at being called
on to second the nomination of Mr. Turner. ' A!sociatod as I
am with the working classes of this great .commercial
community— (hisses, groans, and shear..) -
A Voice : " Jena, shut up." (Cheers and confusion.)
Mr Holme : I have no hesitation in saying that I
strongly put forward the claims of Mr. Charles
Turner; and, although I do so, it is not with
any disrespect to Mr. E wart that Ido so. (Cheers.)
We are told that Mr. Turner is the disturber of the peace
of the town,

A Voice: "And so he is." (Cheers and confusion.)
Mr. Holm: No,- but it is the fear you entertain on
the other side, of his success, that is disturbing the peace
of the town. (Frightful confusion.)
A V.vice : " We are not afraid."

Mr. Hoime : If sou aro nat, why did you not bring
forward another candidate. (A.wful confusion, cheers,
hisses, groans, and ail sorts of uproar.)
Mr Heir:3e.: There are many local questions of im-
portance, and national questions of great general interest
that will, no doubt, be brought before the House of
Commons in the next parliament, and—
A Voice : '6 Will the question of bales and trusses come
on do you think?" (Loud cheers, laughter, and much
confosiln.)

Mr. tiolme : These questions will be of great impor-
tance to your interests, and, as a business man; Mr.
Turner will be .able to give you great assistance in these
&netters. There were charges and assertionsmade against
Mr. Turner, and he was willing to say such things did
not become the other side. •

A V.)ice : "There were no elm ges made.expept what
was true." (Cheers and confusion.)
fir Hilme : I willing to admit alit at election
times there is much liberty allowable, but

k. voice : Its all true, and you dare not deny it."
(Cheen, hooting, Bc,c )
Mr. Holme : If Mr. Turner had been guilty of the
vi!e canduet attributed to him, -

A Voice: "And vile enough it is, es yoti know—he is
guilty!' (Great cheering, groaning, and contusion.)
Mr. Holme : If Mr. Turner were guilty of the conduct
that has been attributed to him, would the merchants of
Liverpool have selected him as tbe chairm in of the Dock
Trust, of the Indian.AssOciation, the Insurance Company,
and ----

A : " Ho is a decided humbug—bales and trusses."
kCheer., groans, and uproar.)
Mr. Holme : If there was anything detrimental to his
character as an honest man

A Voice : Was his cou.luct on the bales and trusses
honest ? (Great cheering and confusion.)
Mr. nolrne : If there was anything detrimental to his
cliaraeter, would he have been selected. by his fellow townsmen
and fellow merchants to fill the great trusts reposed in hina
(Confusion.) I have heard those things with great regret,
and --

A Voice: "Did you over hear of the detection of jobbery
except with regret at its being discovered?" (Laughter,
cheers, and confusion.").

Mr. Holm?: L-t, us look at the conduct of Mr. Turner,
and let us look at the conduct of the parties who spoke at the
ward Meetings, and there was nothing but the foulest calumny
uttered at those meetings against him. (Confusion, and cries
of "no, no," "all truo.") Mr Holme went on to speak for,
some time, butt could not be heard in consequence of the
cheers from his own side and groans from the other, and at last
he concluded by saying that as he could not be heard, and as
there was so much excitement, he would simply content him.
self by seconding the nomination of Mr Turner. (Ile con-
fusi,m. that followed was long continued.)
The Mayor then asked if any other candidate was to be
pr )p ssed.
Ya answer was given.
Horsf dl then came forward, and was received with
loud and enthusiastic cheering, with some slight interrup-
tion. He said : Mr. Mayor and gentlemen, standing here
to-day, for the second time, to ask at your hands the dis.
tiuguished honour of .bolng one of your representatives in
Parliament, I feel that it is no less rny,first duty, than it is
my, first inclination, to thank you for much past kindness—
for kindness, sir, which I have received, not only from my
politiod supp-Iters, but kindness which I cheerfully ackno w.
letLre to have received from tb.se who were my
political op:ionents—'(hear, hear, and cheers) —a kindness,
Mr. Mayor, which I feel sensible I did net merit, but a
,kindness which I well know the people of Liverpool are
ever ready to xtend to every one who, however imperfectly,
yet sincerely and honestly, endeavours to do hie duty and
to serve his felltiw,towpslnen. (Hear, hear, and cheers.)
There are gentlemen, sir, on the hustings, who can bear
testimony. to the fact-that,, dating the past week, I have
had opportunities, in common with my friend Mr
Ew'art, and my friend Mr. Turner, of addressing
large bodies ofd the electors of Liverpool, until at
1 tst, sir, I almost shrink from the sound of my own
voice. (Laughter) Upon this occasion, sir, I shall
et'eayour to abstain from touching upon any question
which may give .rise to any angry or irritable feelings.
(Hear, hear.) - I would rather dwell for a short time,
particularly when I see myself surrounded by commercial
men, upon one or two important questions which must
come under the consideration of the legislature, and upon
which your representatives will he called upon to give an
opinion. (Hear, hear.) I take first, gentlemen, our
monetary system. Tbefe is no question that there is a
general dissatisfaction with the bank charter. (Hear, hear.)
There cinlbe no question, that it does not, under the act
of 1844, meet the requirements of the country. (Hear,
hear.) There can be no question that it has disapp inted
the expectations of its promoters.. Well, gentlemen, I
know that that question has been well considered here,
for I have received a series of resolutions adopted by your
Chamber of Commerce, but that very Chamber also
acknowledged the difficulties which surrounded the
question ; for whilst they adopted resolutions, in which
I think I may say I fully concur, they felt the necessity
of accoinpanying these resolutions with three different
draft reports, setting forth the reasons which have

induced them to come to their eonclasion. ({I:-.r, hear.)
Well, gentlemen, what has been the COWSt! pi a ,ed- oy the
House of Commons ? - Her Mejeity's goy .rerient have
thought it right to refer that subject to a selec, committee
for tho purpose of taking evidence and of making a report,
and when that evidence and that report are brought
forward, it will be not less my duty than my privilege to
communicate with you, :and to ask your, advice and
assistance to enable me to come to a right conclusion
upon the question. (Cheers.) Gentlemen, I pass on froni
that to another charter. I allude to the'charter of the
Hudson's Bay Company. This is a question which I
believe has not been mooted in Liverpool, bat a question
which-has' been mooted in the: House of Commons, and
upon which her Majesty's government are already taking
ineceedinga. And, gentlemen, L think it is a question
deeply interesting to this community,, and the sooner
some steps are taken upon the subject the better. The
charter of that Company dates back to the year 1670,
and bear in mind that it expires in 1859. If that charter be
renewed it will give to the company an entire monopoly not
only of the government, but of the taxation and of the
exclusive trade of a largo portion of territory.
(Hear, hear, and cries of " Free trade.") My
friends call out " free trade." I am' at . much
opposed to monop ply as any of them. (Hear, hear, and
cheers.) Now, gentlemen, I return to that subject to which'
I ventured to direct your attention in the address, I had
the honour to submit to yoa. I allude to the proceedings
of the Board of Trath. (Bear, hear.), I repeat here what
I said beiore, and what I shall slrn
y in the; Home of Com-
mons if it be needful, and if you do e the honour
of sending me there—(fonti cries of "we will," and
cheer;)—that I believe, nay 1 am sure that the present con-.
stittition' of the Board of `l'lade Is a perfect mockery of a.
mercantile community. (tleer, hear, and cheers.)
A Voice': "Cardwell." (Groans.) '
_ _

Mr. Horsfall : I care not whether Mr. Cardwell or any one
else may be President. I sae that in its present constitution` it
is a mockery. ,(Cheers.) Who' are the gentlemen composing
that Board of Trade ? It was not originally intended to
be a mere executive, composed of a peer and a lawyer,-but
when it was established, it was provided that twenty
tnerebapts should be summoned from different parts of
the country, to advise with the G'tvernineet .of the d'ay
as to any important measure to be taken.' Bat what
is the fact now ? A peer is the president and a lawyer
is the vice president. (Hear, hear, and great laughtet )
I ask, again, is this, or is it not, a mockery of the m otan-
tile interests'of the country? (Hear, hear, and cheers.)
if evidence was wanting to the gentlemen on both sides of :
this hustings, I would appeal to the American Chamber
of Commerce, a 'deputation from which 'body I had
the honour :of accompanying to the Board of Trade,
with reference to the . amending of the dews re-
garding _ bills of lading -- a most important
point to Liverpool.. (Hear, hear.) Well, gentlemen,
what was the answer• of the Board of Trade ? What was
their reply upon this; the very question which one might
,have imagined they: ought to have taken in hand ? " Well,
we can do nothing in the matter ; if you wish to
introduce a bill,, or to get a bill introduced, entrust it
to your own members." Well, gentlemen, nay honoerable
friend and late colleague—(cheers)—and myself, in .con-
nection with Mr. William Brown; Mr. Cairns, and Mr.
Baring undertook to introduce a bill into the House of
Commons which had received by the American Chamber
of Commerce, and by your Chamber of Commerce, the
greatest possible consideration. What was the course
pursued by the Vice-President of the Board of Trade when
it was introduced into the House of Commons.? Instead
of supporting the measure, he struck out of it some of the
most vital and important clauses: But, gentlemen, how
was that done ? It was done bet Ween one and tWo o'clock
in `the Morning, when the goternment men remtiaed
behind, and if the government -members had not voted
upon it, they would have been in a minority.
(Hear, hear.) ' Gentlemen, I mention this as an,
instance. Nowel turn to the gensral chamber of commerce.
and I appeal. to them with reference to the constitution' of the
Board of Trade. (Hoare hear.) What was the. course
pursued with regard to another important measure—l allude
to the Joint Stock Companies' Act. ;There was one important
clause of which every mercantile man will feel
the importance, introduced by my honourable colleague and
myself, that in appointing what are Called official liquidas
tors to wind up a concern; it should be' the right of the
creditors to appoint one. ( Jeer, hear.) Well, Mr. Lowe
refused to admit thtt clause—(hisses)--and although I
felt it my duty to take the sense of the House of C ,mmons
upon the subject, we were left in a minority.
Now, I come to another 'point. That clause is in the
bill t 'but how ? Thanks to the House -of Lords. Lord
Brougham—(loud cheers)—Lord Brougham moved the
amendment which I had moved in the Commons, and it
was carried in. the Lords. (Hear, hear, and cheers.)
Mr. Mayor, there is another .very important subject
a question interesting to every shipowner, :eo'
alone of Liverpool, but of the United Itingdom. Shiet
owners are not aware orthe extent of their liability, under
the law as it at present exists, in the 'event
of a collisio"t at sea. (Hear, hear.) This is felt to be a
monstrous grievance, a monstrous evil, an evil which
might ruin the richest man on this hustings in one day.
Is that a safe state of the law ? What have the Board
of Trade done:? They have refused to do anything !
A voice : "The circumlocution office." (Cheers an'l
laughter.)
Mr. Horsfall : But i rejoice to say the feeling among
the shipowners of Liverpool and the shipowners of
the kingdom is sock, that they would not submit
to , take the . mere answer of the Board of
Trfde. (Cheers:) hmy late honourable colleague—
(cheers)—l bed the honour' to accompany a:deptitation of
shipowners, the largest I ever aecomeanied, to the premier,
Lord Palmsrstone much mistake if that noble lord, in
the exercise of Conservative principles—(cheers and
laug'ater)--does not give to 'the, shipowners that redress
which his president and viee-posid, n: re' the Board of
Trade refused to give.. (C lee o.) Gentlemen. thee;
are many other important ret eness, von which I tnight
address you, but I feel not oe;y that your time,
,but that
my lungs are rather feiiieg. I need not. lam
sure, dwell upon the roc nt vote 'of the' House of
Cemmons, which has been instrumental in returning ms
to my constituents. I believe you are all
aware that upon that question I felt it to be my duty to
support her. Majesty's government. (Rear, bear, and cheers.)
And I do not hesitate to say for myself, as has been said of
me by my friend Mr. Tobin, that whether upon Buell a ques-
tion as the China question, or upon any other question, when
I believe her Majesty's Government to be nigh,, they shall
have my cordial support. (Cheers.) But, gentlemen, when I
believe them to be wrong, I need not say that I Should
not be your representative if I did not oppose them,
(Cheers.) I think it is not necessary, speaking in the
presence of the assembled merchaots'of Liverpool; to say
one word in rep'y to the compliments which Mr.
Cobdee has been pleased to pay to you. (Cries
of hear, hear ) I feel, gentlemen, that when he
spoke of the merchants of Liverpool being actuated by
selfish motives, lso only used the, language which has
characterised, S 3 far as I have been able to observe, his
whole course of conduct upon every occasion on which
he addressed the House of Commons. (Hear, hear, and
cheers.) Now, Mr. Mayor, there are one or two other
subjects, to be sure, upon which I might touch, but I
do not think it necessary to occupy your time. I think
need scarcely make any reference to the vote which I
gave in 'opposition to the government upon the question
of the estimates. I voted, as you probably all know, for
referring back the estimates, because 1 thought there was
an undue proposal for expenditure, which if reduced would
enable the government to reduce the taxation. (Hear and
cheers.) Ido not feel, gentlemen, that I ought further to
occupy your time, but I would just make one allusion to a
circular which I believe I have received from the Chairman
of my la,e honourable colleague's committee. In that circular
the electors of Liverpool are called upon to plump for my
excellent friend. (Chee.s and laughter) Now, I have
no doubt that my friend, Mr. Broeklehank, if he will
allow me to call him so, knows what is best for the
interests of his own' party. But Ido not say to any
of my friends, " Vote for me." ,On the. contrary. I
cannot see how Mr. Brocklebank, when her most gracious
Majesty has asked you to return two members, can ask you
to return only one. (Cheers and laughter.) I can only say,
gentlemen, for my own. part, that I .wish for no plumpers,
and I hope you will give me no plumpers. (Cheers.)
Well, gentlemen, I think I shall exercise a wise discree
tion in stopping short here, although there are other
questions upon which I might take this opportunity of
addressing you.' I venture, simply, before I conclude
to say this. If, gentlemen, you are pleased again to'
entrust to me the honour of being one of your representa-'
tives--(cheers, and cries •of "We will") —you may
depend upon it that when I retire from that henourable
position I shall endeavour, at least to return your -trust
untarnished. (Loud dicers.)
A Voice : hWe know; you will." (Renewed cheers )
Mr. Horsfall : I have only one word more to say about
my friend and late
,colleague, Mr. - Evtart. (Rear, bear,
and loud cheers) It would be presumptuous, Mr.
Mayor, if I attempted for one moment to allude
to what may he the decision of this important town. But
this I venture to say to my honourable friend and late
colleague, that although' it' may In coin event' to the
electors of Lite rpool to break the link of the ehein which
has bound our political connectioneit will not be possible
Mr. Mayor, for the electors of Liverpool, so far as I am
concerned, to break the link of o_ur personal friendship.
(Leudeand general applause, amid, which Mr. hurtful!
resumed his seat.)
Mr. Ewart then came forward, and was received with
loud and continued cheering from his friends, and
groaning from the Tories. He said :—Mte Mayor
and fellow townsmen, after the many
,ward meet-
ing which I have addressed during the last ten
days, I feel that it ikscarcely necessary for me to go over