Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-12-31 00:00:00

AECIIITECTU.kIAL AND A.RCHIXOLOGICAL
SOCIETY.

WEST DERBY BOARD OF GUARDIANS.

The usual fortnightly :meeting of tide Society was held in the
Royal inttittition, at halt."-past,, seven o'clock Wet night. Mr. S.
Hug,eins presided.
The first bustles; on the Het wss a notice riven by Mr. Piston,
a motion to the effect that the regular paper of each night sbouid n
be postponed under kny circumstance, beyond hal-past eight
o'clock. :'.7r Bonit drew attention to the faet Chit the notice was
not in accordance with the Mies of the .ociety, which required
seen days' notice, by circular.. of any motion ,hich to
site: er, "'sting regulatdoo. The chat, man deckled in favour of the
objection, and it was therefore agreed that the motion should be
postponed until the ne't night of meeting. and that regular notice,
in accordance with therms', should he given.
Toe following donations were rtorion,,ced :—Lithogranlrs of Pe
Episcopal Chapel. Wig. n Cemete-y ; Roman Cathidie C-or.-1, Wigan
Cemetery;
Di,senters' Bpi Cem 'tery ;anti of the Lodge.,
Wigan Cemetery. from Mr. T. D. Barry, crchheet ; and Vol 3, Nos.
51 and 53. of the Building News.
'lhre ,ociety's prz, for suneeis in the como.titii-m in at et-ling wis
awarded to Mr. John Pepper, and presented to that gentleman by
tae chairman.
A letter w,us received from the Master-builders' I ssoci of n, stating
that it was the irrention of thot hody. to invite the members of the
n.c`titecturai pro!exsiok to a meeting to be held at the Cl ren,hon-
rooms oa the 6:h of January, for the purpose of considering'how the
strikes of workmen might be ::voided, mad reqtte,ting that the society
would cal; att ntion to the fact.
A short conversation rook pace 117-m the subject, ie the eenree of
which the Secretary remar-ed that that sot sty should not. while
giving publicity to the letter, be usideretoed to Lientify itself eitl-.er
with coasters or workmai, .

Yesterday at half past eleven o'clock this Board held
its usual weekly meeting. Mr. EdwArds in the chair. The
other guardians present were Messrs. Roberts, Ledger,
TAylor, Lunt Shaw. Pitts, Abraham, Stone, Roscoe
Mawdesley, Almond Sago. Birch. Medcalf, and Parr.
The following cheques were granted for out-door relief.
Mr. Potts, £130; Mr. Olney, £32; Mr-Lythgoe, £23
The nnmlners reported in the Workhouse last week
werr, 716 ; admitted since 29; discharged 15 ; Die 1
Nnmb,r this week 729, of whom 430 belonged to Toxteth
Perk Union. Num'.;er for `the corresponding w:ek last
year 695.
The tnutine business having been gone through,
Mr. Cleaver asked the Board if thny were ready to con-
sider the p-npriety of retaining the serrice or The as,istant
relieving-officer. Mr. Brslinan. There had been several
charges of neglect of duty brought against hint, and last
week there was two other serious charges of inattention to
duty.
After FOlllO conversation on this matter, Mr. Bushman
was called in, who stated that it was want of time that
obliged him to omit the duties spokea of,awhich were some
cases of out-door relief that had been unattended to.

Snme conversation al,o took place upon the natze and cancel o'
dry-rot In timber.

The Poor Law Board had not yet ratifi,gl the apnoint-
ment of Mr. Brahman, atd it was, after some fUrther
consideration of this subject, agreed that the clerk should
write to the Po )r Law Board, and ask them to suspend
their official appointment for a short time.
Mr. Cleaver said the next matter that came before the
meeting was the Doctor's fee f.nr lunacy cases.
. It was then moved, and unanimously aered to by the
Board, that the resolution passed on the 14th November,
1853, allowing a fee of 10t. 6i. to be paid to Dr. Nevins
in all cases of lunacy, or reputed lunacy, sent to the work-
house, be rescinded ; and also, that in all cases of reputed
lunacy sent to the workhouse for safe custody, under the
certificate of any district medical officer, the medical
offiler signing such cerificate be respecdolly requested
to accompany such lunatics to the magistrates
before whom they may be taken for admission to the
asylum ; and that the master of the wo►khouse do give the
necessary information to such medical officer.
Mr. Roberts, in accordance with a notice of motion,
moved that the resolution appointing the (Moen' Corn.
mittee be rescinded, and that all charges or complaints be
brought before the Board. ani that during the investiga
tion f such cases the absence of the reporters should be
requested. Mr. Roberts s:id, it was no through
any 6srespect to the gentlemen cocaposng this
commitee that he trade that mction, nor did
he know of any complaints that were ever made,
in reference to the discharge of their duties, bu% he thought
it was more judicious to have all matters brought before
the Board.

ANONYMOUS CRITTC3.

Mr. Pieton begged leave to draw attention to ri subject rhich he
stated he approached with reluctance, and almost with pain. One
main benefit wilt!' he conceived to be derived from that society was
in the feet of the free and open conversations which usnal:y
Preceded the more eiaboratepapers read each evening. ale was afraid
that in that respect they had seen their best days. He found that
they had got among them a " Tniaking Mae." who from time to time
published his thoughts on various subjects connected with that
society. It misht at first seem a harmless thing that a wtiter should
thus crack his jokes and amuse himself at the expense of the sec ety..
But he wanted the " Thinking Man" to th nk a lisle more, and tak3
a few hints, if they were wordy of being taken, which he (Mr.
Pi ton) should endeavour to explain He pointed out that the result
to the society must be injurious if a gentleman, not satisfied with
having an oppor unity of advocating his own op nions and replying
to others in that loom, was to have another bit at his antagonists in
anoth r way, was to step into the darkness, and from thence to
launch his arrows—if he was to tale such an opportunity of pufflag
himself and his own statements at the expense of ethers, of making
invi lions comparisons between this gentleman and tint, and all
under the cloak of an anonymous communtcation. As one
effect of such a souse, he dweit upon the fact that a
censorship of such a kind must tend to ke le the young• r members of
the society from getting up to exereas as opinion at all. The ten-
dency must be to chill and keep down 70.3, ex,ression of opkion
from young and latent talent and in this rasp ct coald n,,t hut have
a prejudicial effect upon tee usefoli.ess of the society. He thought,
if the gentleman who wrote in the papers, and who, probab'y, we.; a
good-hearted indisidual, although coda nly inclined to ridicule,
would serinnly consider the thing in that light, he would are how
very undesirable it was that such a course s ould be continued. Mr.
Platen read portions of the Liters to which he alluded, and painted
out some misrepresentatons of remarks made by hi n at the List
meeting, and concluded his remarks amid loud applause.
Mr. Hay expresse 1 has coniorri-nce in the remarks of Mr. Plefou,
and complained also of misrepresentati n cf his observations upon
the same ocos sten.
Mr Boult thought the subject a little irrelevant to the business of
the society. which he thought would not do well 'o enter Into a
cont st with an anonymous writer. He had not the slighiest 'dot
who the writer was, but if, as ~piets ;red to be the case, Mr. Pict n had
some conjecture on that point, he would suggest that a private hint to
the writer would probably be more efficacious than the discussion
of the question there. For himself, Mr Boult remarked that
if ha had any means of communicating with the writer,
he would suggest that he should abstain from personal remarks.
tChroitgci::tme‘.mtrigemht,
lbyedavnergyesobuns inefibut wha,. he objected to, and
letters of the writer stinted to,
end of " Eye-E,r," was a 'endency to degenerate, as all such writers
had, into mere personalities. 'f the writers would confine them elves
to legitimat s criticisms of facts and cpiubns. they might d) a great
deal of goon,
lfrb.ePelaeuthree hefe:aPcrioeamiiil'sQludacihtnhewad that his
i
inslss own cc •onnt, but because of the
‘ject in alludiog to the subject was
tendencyno would have to injure the society.
The subject was then elloned to drop.
The paper for the event .:g was eat tied, "A shower of Tarthian
Arrows discharged against the error of the great cemnetition," by
Mr. W. H. Leeds. The paper, nhich was aced by Mr. Iluziens
admi iist red some severe hits to the recent system adopted in the
competition for price clielena of the Geyer. mcnt Ofilzes ha Lontkri.
Some conversatim arose on the subject, and the thanks of the
society were awarded to the wrier.
This concluded the business of ths evening.

Mr. Ledger Feconcled the resolution. Ile thought that
the Ofa,!ers' Committ,e were pleasing nobody, and he also
thought that the Board ettild do all the coarnillee was
able to do. No harm could ba done, if all the letters we'e
read before the B-)ard, if the reporters were to withdraw.
Mr. Taylor said, he would move that the reporters be
allowed there on all occasions. This would make the
guardians more cautious in what :hey said.
Mr. Taylor's motion was met widt cries of " No, no "
After a len,:ythened eilcucsion of this sultject, in which
four cr fire gintleman could he heard aneak'ng at a time,
Mr. Roberts' moion was put to the Board, and carried.
This concluded the business.

THE DUKE OF SUTHERLAND MULCTED IN £2.ooo.—We
understand that an action of damages f r defamation was
recently raised in the C urt of Session by the Rev. Mr.
Me,elte•ller, of the established church of Clyne, against his
Grace the Duke of Sutherland, the damages claimed being
£2,000,. and that a decree for that sum has 'been obtained,
his Grace having failed to enter appearance. The ground
of the action is said to Ise founded on a letter written by
one 'of the Duke's agents containing defamatory state•
men's tag arding Mr. Mackeller.—Northern rnsign
HALIFAX CORPORATL,N.—At a sp• c'al general meeting
of the cannel!, on Moudey evening, it was ordered that the
corporate sel of the borough he affixed to a petition to
the house of commons for a bill to cnafi.m the gift of the
People's Park, by F. Crossley, Esq., M.P., and to
authorise the corporation to maintain and regulate it, as
well es to provide public baths therein ; and to give power
fur making a cemetery. extending the gasworks ant water-
works, and effecting further improvements in the horoueh.
Molt r the authority greeted th m by the act of 1853, the
town council have &vasty borrowed £72,400 ; and it is
now proeosed to ibtain power for borrowing £152,500
mers,—Ze,ooo neon the waterworks, £63 000 upon the
gasworks, £7,500 for baths and wash-houses, £lO,OOO for
a town hall, and £25,000 for sewerage.
Stems-Beam —The annual returns made by the
savings-banks in the eat les counties exhibit generally
satisfac'ory results, and show either that the benefits of
such ies'itutiona are more apprecietel by those for whom
they were intended, or that the eon Ili to oF the workine
classes has enabled them to gradually extend their di:Resits
In the Cambridge Mints 503 new 2c:taunts hive hens
opened during the year cuing Nov. 20, and only 341
have been withdrawn. In the Sleaford Bask the depo
received have been £9,418 66 101, while the sums paid to
dip eitors, including in'ereit, have a-n .0 tied to £8,41 1
14s 31. At Boston there has been an increase of 1,082
depositors during the last ten years, and of £6 209 2s 1 d
in the amount deposited. At Lotith durinc the past year
299 new depositors hare onenel ace aunts, £11,116 18s 11d
has bsen deposited, an't .£9,817 51 31 withdrawn.
A RtcHMOND DINNER Test E HUNDRED YEARS Acct.—
We find, in the Lansdowne Manuscriets, that about Christ-
mas, 1509. certain officials of the court of King Henry VIII.
dined together at the village of Snene ('tow called Rich-
mond). and that at th cod of the entertainment me host
of the Star and Garter, with many seletiaions, handed to
them the following bill S—For brede, 121; ale, 3a. 4d. ;
%Type, 101 ; two leynes motor', S.i ; m iribenes, 6d ; poet-
dred beef, 51; two (moons. 2s ; two gee'e, 141; five convey,
151 ; one legee moton, 5 b %night, 4d ; s'ae plovers, 18d ;
six pegiens, 50 ; two dozea larke,, 12 I ; salt and sauce, 6cl;
bWer and eggs, 101 ; wardens and quysces, 121; herbes,
/ 1; spices, 2:s 4 1 ; floure, 41; whisht cunpes and cruses,
61; which, summed up, gives exactly £1 sterling as the
total expenses of this alderrnanic feast. Many• a party,
gentle and <imele, has since that time dined at the " Star
and Garter," but none ever go so many substantial things
for their twenty shillings as the subjects of young King
Hairy The Statesman
DxATif (F w Marilee —On Monday afternoon last Mr.
William Peync, coroner for the city of London, held an
invest tat Bethlem Hospital on Mr. Hugh Pollard Wil-
loughby, aged 56. The unfortunate gentleman was
connected with the family of SrH. P. Willoughby, and
became an inmate in the ebove heisnital under these
singular circumstances. In the year 1854, in the course of
a trial at the Old Bailey, the &ceased psrsistsd in inter-
rupting Mr. Giffsril, who was addressing the Court, and he
was ordered into custody, but ultimately liberated. The
deceased Afterwards attempted to shoat the same learnbd
gentleman (ilr. Giffird), for which he was tried and
acquitted on the ground of insanity. Mr. Willoughby was
aceereingly removed to Bethlem Hosoita', where he has
remained up to the time of his death. The unfortunate
gentleman has received the utmost attention while in
c mfinement, but notwithstanding his health gave way, and
he grade illy sink, and died some few days back, The jury
returned a verdict of Natural death."
A NZw ITEM IN THE SCHoOLNIA.STEIt's BlLL.—There ie
a rise iu the tone of society on the subject of religion ;
people talk more about it. and, we have no chubt,
think more about it, and feel m're about it, and many
people who do not think very much about it for them-
selves think a great deal about it for their children.
Well, then, religion and earnestness and conscientious-
ness being in fashion, there rises up this new and
iraproved class of schoolmasters, who partly reflect and
partly meet the wants of the dm Thay start an
improved plan, give a moral tone" to education, and
invite parents to commit their chillies into their hands
upon the ground of the tender, anxious, and zealous care
which wi'l be bestowed upon their morals end religion.
They are earnest. sincere men, we have no doubt, and they
take atl the more lively interest in education on account of.
An adjourned meeting was held on Tuesday morning in the its growing alliarce with religion; at the same time, in
messroono of the officers of the Royal Artillery, Woolwich, at tho
request of the Commandant of the Garrison, and was attended by what may be called their mercantile capacity, simply as
officerslieaaijios,,-Geeheneiorati,tglnisvenignaglitaotrnia
Major-General S'r W. F. Williams, colonel Brawn, R.M., Colonel men conducting a seeculation, they are keenly alive to the
Brockman, East Kent Militia, Colonel Bowles, Oxford Militia, Major importance which the society attaches to this qu ilisy in
iteheols, and they charge for it according to its degree of
the chair, by stainer that he had reqrtnBh:esl
ascedimportance in the minis of parents rather than according
tseheßanovnyaalorn.onMi itary Train, and upwards of 109
to the actual addition of trouble and attention which it
to discuss the advantages to he derived from the establishment of will imnose • them. We mean no reflection, hat this
Identl objectß
ioronf
attendance thed duty
nW
meeting6ilwt
orderrleo hm
a military institute, now in prozress, for the benefit and recreation . opm
of the private soldier, end which he hoped to sae liberally carried out
IS the plain state of the case. There has been an immense
end supported by the contributions of every officer in the garrison. talk abort the religious tone of schools of late years, and
The General, after point nz out the numerous advent ages which such this has been the concomitant of it. With the male of
an institution would confer on the whole military community, sea he .
was most a xious for its inauguration, as he had it t. __nesse
the piety the scale of price has also hugely advanced ; the
benefits of dollar, establishments in other garrison town,. public has thought a particular improvement of first rate
Colonel Brown. exprsesad himself highly in favour of importance, and it has been charged for proportionately.
forming an institution whi.id would offer a second home for the We do notchar
ge anybody with making a gain of god.
leisure honrs of the soldier and free from the contamln,a ion and
allurements of the public-house and coffee-slop. It cannot be denied lilies, not the truth is that our new improved school-
(continued Colonel Brown) th t the domestic accommodation of a masters, earnest men, sincere men, devoted men as they
married soldier's quarters, usually on a mast limited scale. is often- are, cannot wholly overcome the commercial instinct
times most uninviting. In such cases an estab ishment like the one which
tells a man to charge for his article as much at
now under their consideration, if properly established, would he
fraught with marvellous advantages, and would offer a second home others are willing to pay him. They know the public
at a most insignificant expenditure. The Rev. G. It. Gleig, M.A , thinks a great deal of religion, and they make the public
Chaplin-general to the army, enumerated in.tances of the mural old 6, hancsom
i el for it. iwhether it
y Trifle s trade,
advantages which, he had observed in Dover, and other places, whi re . "4"
these establishments have been created, in order to provide for the is Scheolmaster's trade or any other. It is a simple fact
relaxation end amwsement of the soldier's leisure hours, and raid tl',at these " earnest me*" have made twice as tench money
Blare could not bs two opinions on the benefit which a similar home by education as any of
their predecessors did. They are
would confer on Woolwich on the well-di-posed of every age, but
more particularly on the moral and social well-being of t e Tow., large .yi 'n pocket by every rise of the religious pulse of the
soldier Colonel Gardner and other officers an sentlectlY addrer,a ,u nation, and as our schools grow more and more virtuous
the meeting, when a show of hands was requestrd by those, who the schoolmasters' bills are becoming so tremendous that,
were in favour of the institutton; and who were willing to coratribate weback •fdo not take care we shall have to fall upon our
towards its establishment and support, and a show of s.,„d, for
1
the contrary object, numbers exhibited a majority les favour of old festooned lax scholasticism again from sheer inability
the Institution, to pay for the advantage. of piety.—Times.

CONVICTIONS UNDER THE SMOKE ACT.

At the Southwark Police court, on Tuesday Sir John Rennie and
Sons, the extensive engineers and Government contractors, were
summoned by sir Oettree Grey, Secretary of State for the Home
Department, under the Smoke t, nig:ince Act, for not having their
furnaces so constructed as to consume the smoke. Mr. Bodkin
tetended en beealf of the Crown. Mr. Sand son, civil engineer, of
Maiden-lane, Covent-garden, raid that he was ordered by Govern-
ment to inspect the premises of sir John Rennie and Son., in
Holland-street, Blackfriars-road, and On the 31st of October he visited
the place, and found eleht forges at work without hoods, or anythin
to carry off the smoke. The place was filled aim .at to suffeeetiete,
and the ,moire was forcing its way through the roof. There wero
also four furnaces in action without anything to consume t o smoke.
Coal and coke was used there They comnennicatei with a high
shaft. The manager of the firm stated that they were workieg eight
and day in manufaAnring gun boats for the Indian n vy, and they
did all they could to comply with the law by burning coke. Mr.
Combo told him, that because they were making money by manuf ic-
turing gan boats, they could not he allowed to break the law and
poison the reiehboarheod The ffleniants must pay a fine of £5
and costs.
Mr. Norris, the proprietor of saw mills in Barron's place,
Waterloo-rood, was next charged with a similar offence. Mr.
Combo fined him k 5 and coots, reccenmendine him to make the
requisite alteratioesimmediate;y, or he would be summoned again,
aud'each time he would hove to pay doable the former pens ties
Me- ars and Co , owners of sow mills in Mermaid court,
Borough, were charged with the same off- nce. Mr. Combs said
this was a c'ear case, and as there a e eared to be no difficulty in
complying with the Act of Pardament, .he should also fine him £5
and C 3 ts.
Messrs. Efumphrey and Son, patent candle makers, of Suffolk-
grave, Southwark, yrere also summoned for not censumie s their own
smoke. Mr. Sandithn was about to prove the case, when one of the
dstentiants plea 'ed guilty, and h indei the £5, and £2 coats, to
the clerk, info,ming his Worship that they had complied with the
Act of Parliament.