Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-07-07 00:00:00

THE NORTHERN TIMES THURSDAI, JULY 7, MO

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want of that discernment, andordinary acuteness-whicVif
it had been displayed by him, must have detected the frauds
practised by Mr. Luya, -which- frauds seem to have been
committed by Mr. Luya ever since 1848.
Mr. Alderman Holme, in moving the acceptance of the
tendered resignation of Mr. Bally, said, that the report
which the sub-committee had submitted to the finance
committee, and which had been read in their hearing,
was one of a very .painful character; but he deemed it
right to say, on behalf of Mr. Bally, that he believed,
and the committee were all of the same opinion, that
he was an honest and conscientious man ; but that
he had been guilty of great remissness no one could deny.
(Hear, hear) linen they went into an investigation, Mr.
Bally was himself obliged to say that he had not seen some
of the books. He thought in a great measure it was owing
to his remissness that the corporation had been defrauded of
a considerable sum of money. But at the same time they
were to take into consideration that he was -an old
man, fifty-eight years of age, and had lost his situa-
tion worth £..300 a-year, which was a most
severe punishment, with a family to maintain as he had.
He believed Mr. Bally had a deep'and designing man to
deal with. He should have gone before the finance com-
mittee, and told them the position he was in ; and that he
could not get the information from Mr. Luya, but he had
not done that. Under the circumstances, he could not see
what resource there' was for the sub-committee, but to, come to
the conclusion which they had come to. At the same time,
feeling as they all did for Mr. Bally, and as there was not
the slightest charge against his honesty or integrity further
than that he had neen guilty of remissness and neglect, he
trusted the council would endeavour to place him in some
position as under servant, and not send him and his family
to the world without support. He had paid the penalty.
He had been obliged to tender his resignation to the couneid,
and he (Mr. Holme,) was sure the council would join him en
the expression of his sympathy, and place him in some posies
tion aeklerk, but at the same time to accept his resignation.
Mr. Gladstone took a very different view of the conduct
of Mr. Bally, from Mr. Holme. For some time past he
had proclaimed his own incompetency for the office which
he held. About two or three mcraths ago, it would be
renthibered by the council, he (Mr. Gladstone) had said
...nom et, awlfut. tie was astonishes at Mr. ' that Mr. Bally had disgraced the office• of auditor. Much
Jeffery complaining of the time of the council being occupied, as he regretted his position in regard to his family,
for there was no man occupied so much of the time of the that was no reason why it should interfere with his 'duty to
council as Mr. Jeffery. With reference to the other (pies- the üblic. Mr. Bally was the responsible- officer, and he
tion which he (Mr. Jeffery) had introduced that morning,
recefved an officer's pay, but he had acted indiscreetly and
the council would recollect that when a proposition unjustly towards his employers. And yet that was the mem
Was made a short time ago for going on with a new that they were to put in a situation.
Let tbe• council en-
street in Mr. Jeffery's ward. Mr. Jeffery was the gentleman
. deavour to raise itself in the scale of human II
opinion,of
far from giving them assistance, and his constituency to' depress itself, for they were low enough. Too many of
absolutely made a motion for a postponement fin a week. them thong it was " brother helping brother.” to-look
they
But the council gave them permission to proceed, and the had a public duty to perform, and they had no right tolook
work was now going on It would have been better if the
subject had not been introduced. Every man who took a ask how many thousand pound:, had the corporation: lost by
upon this man's case in other-light than that. Oe would
public situation was liable to have his conduct criticised, but that man's neglect ? Did they amount to ten thousand ?
it was for him to live down calumny, and Mr Stewart would and if so, whey was next to Luya' but Bally ? They must
live down such calumny as disgraced the canvas of the have their feelings for their fellowemen, Nut their business
Mercury.
was to look to the discharge of thepublic duty, and he-would
Mr. Alderman Parker regretted that the scribbler should deeply regret that such an insult should be offered In the
have been noticed. But lie thought such attacks were the honest man as bye their assuming to:place him in another
greatest compliments that could be paid to them.- As-to situation. He bad' forfeited all clinur to be placed in a.
the," dummies," he thought them the most sensible in' the' situation under that' council. He would not see the palic
committee, and, perhaps, in the council. They were not business abused by-any such measure-se-long as he had the
prattlers like Mr. Jeffery and himself. (Laughter.) The power of lifting up- his voice. He supposed that it might
best way would have been for some gentleman to have' be, the'deputy-chairenan of the financecommittee had been
brought forwad a vote of censure upon the finance coin- tempted outof good feeling, tosay a 'word tor Mr.-Bally ; how-
mittee. He challenged them to to do this.
Mr.: Robertson Gladstone said, this matter ever much he should'himse/f simpathiie with that feeling;
came very he should oppose any attempt to re-seat' Mi. Dilly in the
indefinitely before hint as a member of that council: Inas- service of corporatituti (Hear, hear,)'
much as he had not been present on the occasion, lie was
unable to tell what the- merits of the case were, but he The reeommendatiorYwas accepted.
thought it evidently pointed to one very important subject, Mr. Holm then proceeded to more-the above recom-
which was this: The finance committee was nosy, since- mentlatien• in reference- to the removal of the- statue of
they were deprived of the town dues, the great monetary George llrt He stated: that it was proposed to grant
hinge upon which the affairs of that corporation turned, . a position for the column below the statue of
and he contended that the very least that committee could George 111.. inn London-road. The foundation would be
do, in justice, in deference to the public, was to admit the ; et rock,
reporters of the press. '3 •
and) as there was- considerable-epace it would be
seen from a- long distance.- It would remain as-an open
FINANCE COMMITTEE. reaestion until the colunktywas raised, whether they- would
The proceedings of the finance committee were. read, remove the statue-at all r and in case it was thrown in the
shade by the- eolumn, thon , it would Be removed'` at the
which comprised the followinz recommendationa :=Recom-
expense of thesubscribers committee, to some Othersite to
mendation to accept the tender of Messrs Kilpin and Mon-
tgomery, for the construction of a drain from land, Walton be• fixed upon: He moved' that the rommenclatien be
confirmed, with- the exception' f the renwral 'of the, statue,
Gaol road. Recommendation to accept the tender of
Messrs. Knight and Son, for painting the outside of the which would remain an open question.
new gaol, Walton. Recommendation to- grant, subject to Mr. Alderman= Gardner moved that the recommendation
beenot confirmed-, but be referred back to the committee for
the consent of the Lords of the Treasury, the reversion. of
a small strip of land adjoining the Baptist- Chapel; Myrule feather consilLeratfon. Hee said they wanted something
4- for the sum of £5l. Recommendation to accept very- striking- when th err ecarstry friends come to town, and,
thought lizer
.fitnaonlz
amittueeehereejltd meetl tthe sub-
.enation of Mr. •J. H. Bally, corporate auditor:- be
eirtep
ear
too, ereot'seea
eeommendation to authorise the removal of the-statute of
the committeecolumn atfet.' jeer % Dock.m Ile'
Kin!). George 111. from its present. situation inl.ondon-
-nonument tothe_gneen, feleone to General Hapveloca. He
road, and the erection of the column in memory of the
hoped the committee -woulda,econsider the.matter:
late Duke of Wellington, near the site of that. statute
mr. RN ley said he -would second Mr. Gardner's ..
Report of town-clerk on his establishment, and that lee has :,e e. - s
at 01 u4orge the 'bird was ere, teu by pewee suu-
appointed Mr. T. Abbott in the place of the late Mr.:Hughes,
at the 'salary of £275 for the first year. seription, and he- thought- rt. liras rather tatnsual to remove
Mr. Alderman Holme said, in theabsence of the chairman a sovereign ape and doiyree the town to make
-room- for a
of the finance committee, who- had been called. to- London subject.
rather suddenly, he would
take upon himself to. veahe Me. Alderman Parker cheerved that.. Mr. Halite had
said, that the-coleimn woad stand on a rook, and' he sup-
confirmation of the proceedings.
posed he would plant George the Third on a foundation of
The following report was read
mud. He had a great respect for George the Third, and
.
Your sub-committee report that on the 27th at „ May last he believed ne- was the only man n; the. room that had
a deputation from the markets committee, consiiting of Mr. reed under him.
Johnson, Mr. Woodruff, and Mr. Ridley, at anded your Mr. Bennett hoped the finance caninalttee would allow'
sub-committee in reference to the- defalcation of Mr. Lua the matter to, he referred back, as they would have
y , -, ~ go to Phrliatuent for a site ?or a large wholesale
and submitted a report of the treasurer on the accounts of market, arid they would very likely have a , good
St. John's Market, which had been closely examined by him site for the statue where that would' be obtained; What
by the direction of the markets committee. they now called the New•.-Haymark* south of St. George's IHall, where• the large lamp stood, would be a very suitable
.
It appeared to your sub-committee to be necessary that an °place, as it would be, seen by scores of thousands, awl-
- should take p' e le the first impressions upon strangers ware the moat
objection, would be eared to • :

committee, to say a word or two in justification. He must
deny, on the part of the finance committee, that either Mr.
Stitt, Mr. Jeffery, or any other gentleman who formed a
deputation, had been received by the finance committee
with the slightest discourtesy. They might have sup-
posed so, but they were not accountable for their sup-
positions. He for one came into that building on Friday
last, at half-past ten o'clock, and he did not get away, on
account of the enormous business that had to be gone
through, till three o'clock; and when it was stated that a
deputation was coming on the subject of the piece of land
in the Haymarket --a subject which had already been taken
into consideration—it was considered, when they looked at
the paper, and saw the large amount of business which was
likely to detain them for two or three hours, that it
would be advisable for the chairman only to speak
on the subject, and they would be glad to know
from Mr. Jeffery, or other members of the deputation,
what they required. Mr. Jeffery was the speaker on the
occasion ; and, after they had heard the deputation, the
chairman, as usual when / large amount of business is to
be transacted, replied to the deputation. They had heard
their arguments, and thirteen or fourteen gentlemen who
formed the finance committee could nQt enter on a dis-
cussion of the subject ; because if they had, they could not
have got through their business. The Chairman spoke in
the most respectful and straightforward manner, and he
(Mr. Holme) did not see any of those peculiarities to which
Mr.. Jeffery had alluded. He would have taken no notice
of the letter, and he was sorry such had been done, unless
some gentleman had signed his name to it. And for Mr.
Jeffery or Mr. Stitt, the most proper place for them to
make a complaint would have been in that council-room,
in the presence of the chairman, who would have replied
to any remarks, which he was so well able to do. He
thought it to the honour of Mr. Stewart, and to the
honour of any man, that he had risen from , being a
tradesman to his present position, being selected
by that council as chief magistrate. He very
mach regretted to, hear Mr. Jeffery say that
the chairman's conduct was such as if he had said, "don't
you wish you may met it." That was not the way they
were desirous of conducting the public business. He never
yet heard a deputation except in the best spirit of courtesy ;
hf
eardnnce all they had to say, and then bring it into_lemislation, I
iihla r_l

the resi

I?,OtiOn

lace by them as to the mann

Bally, the corporate auditor,. hes. performed h
and vour sub- corn m i

He hoped

duty in reference to then

being refigred back,

have instituted such inquiry, and now report the result
Your sub-committee have been attended

constaeraote ampunt of talk ws occasioned' by this
subject, the result of which was, that Mr. Ilohne said he
would withdraw his motion, anti, allow the matter to stead
over a-mouth.

by the treasumar

whc.has completed an examinatim of the accounts of St

ohn's Market, in which he

has discovered many errors

Mr. Hohne then: moved the qlext recomn-4endation, rela-
tive to.3he appointment of iii; Abbott in the place of qtr.
Hughaa.

inaccurac

and tt

have al

Mr., Gladstone objected to- Iris. ap

In order to make the subject wro intell:igibl4 your

Tr. Abbeti able to read t'o'the council. it;v/nen
were•able to read so as to be beard. Most of tham, both
I lay and clerical, made a. noise like a. bee in a bottle.
le could nob consent to the appointment of

consicter

sub-committee beg to refer to a resolution of the raarkets

the auditor was directed to report
check he has upon the receipts for rents and toils in the
markets, and whether he approves of the Mode of-collectinn

to that committ

" what

fighter.)
Abbott.

The Town-elerk exrlained that Mn:.Abbott had been a
month on trial•from 'a situation in London, where he was
much valued. The situation was kept open for a month
for hiin, and it was now • expirek, and that was kris
reason for• bringing the matter- before the council.
He thpught, by the changes recentlyinade in his establish-
ment, there wouhr,he a saving from: X9OO to .£l,OOO. in
justice telfr; Abbot it was his duty. to state that, in every
respect,, except in reading, he was. a. most efficient assistant.
The. Mayor saki if the gentlemen would, pay a little. more
attention, reading Would not be so hard work.
The appointment was conffinned.
Mr. Woodruff said, before the general proceedings were
confirmed he wished to mer,tiim that he found one item in
the accounts, on the 17th June, amounting to £1 16s 2d.
The amount was very small, but it involved a great prin-
ciple. Goods had been supplied by the firmofJeffery and
Morrish, to that-amount, and he wished to know if it was
in accordance with the law, and whether any member of the
council was not disqualified, or entitled to pay a penalty.
He mentioned the matter because 'they were so strict in
other things.
-_2t

dopted.

In compliance with this resolution, Mr. Bally submitted
a report dated the 12th of March, 1855, which is recorded

on the minutes of the markets committc

on the 27th

to refer

Mr. Bally there enumerates the various books i
the markets, and the check he has -dpon each.

system of audit and examination of these accounts, as
.
detailed by Mr. Bally in this report, had been folly carried
out by him, it appears to your sub-committee that any
errors or defalcations would have. been diseovered ; but

your committee regret to say that upon th
Mr. Bally himself this has not been done, Thus, as to St,
- Market, the total amount received from quarterly
is entered in th. _

admission of

ae Town-clerk said Mr. Newland's was directed to make
some plans, and- the material had been - bought at the
establishment of Mr. Jeffery, without his knowledge,-hy. a
8 servant of the council.
Mr.' Beckwitt

with the rental book. which
Many

le did not se

And without a sixpence of profit tonMr

Jeffery

Mr: Woddruff: We have nothing to do with the profit.
Mr. Gladstone said Mr. Jeffery had mentioned the
matter„th.hi'M, and'said he would
.object .to. it, but he did
not consider it worth notice. _
Mr. Woodruff said he was sure Mr. Jeffery would not

Mr. Jeffery said the transaction bad occurred without his
loowledge, or sanction, and as be was, not. always. at .his
place he could not'see what was done in.his absence.. .4„ow-
ever, Mr. ),Voodruff was right in mentioning the matter.
Mr.. Woodruff said
,he was sure Mr. Jeffery would ,give
him 'credit'for saying that it was without his knowledge.
Mr. Stitt said he observed an entry in the proceedings of
the committee, in reference to the improvements in Whit=
field-road and Whitfield-lane. He would like to know
why they were not to be carried out ?
Mr. Samuel Holme said he had not been able to visit.
this site lately, and he was not therefore as familiar with
the spot as he might have been. The finance. committee
were of opinion, and individually he.,was of opinion, that
these proposed improvements was an attempt on the part of
the owners of the property to get their own. property bene-.
fited at the cost of the public, and the committee therefore
recommended the council not to sanction the proposed
improvements. They would cost £4OO.
Mr. Stitt said he was sorry to hear what had fell Boni
the deputy-chairman of the finance committee. Ile con-
tended that it was a most important public improvement,
which might be effected at a very triituf; expense, and

ventured to think that very few of 'the members of the
finance committee had visited the spot. He moved that the
proposed improvements, as submitted, be made at a cost
not exceeding £4OO ' -
Mr. Anderson seconded the motion.
Mr. Crosthwaite said the health committee had several
communications with the finance committee on the subject
of these improvement, and it was the desire of the health
committee that it should be carried out.' He considered
that it was an improvement that should not be lost sight of,
as the population of Everton was going on at an immense
ratio.

Mr. Sheil said he had visited the spot, in company with
Mr. Newlands and some other gentleman, and he was very
willing to confess that it would be an improvement which
ought to be carried out, and 'in which various parties were
interested, and his opinion was that those parties interestel
should bear their fair proportion of the expense necessary
to be incurred in effecting them.
Mr. Jeffery said he agreed with many observations that
fell from the deputy-chairman of the finance committee.
Mr. Plunket, the original owner of the land, ought to
have laid it out in streets sufficiently wide; and, because
this was not done, were they to punish themselves and the.
public on that account I But this was not a principle that
they could always adhere to, that merely because they could
compel the original landowner to make streets broad
enough, they were therefore to cease making improvements.
He considered the improvements ought to be made, and
were very desirable, and they might as well dissolve their
improvement committee if they did not make them.
Mr. Kitchen said he had also visited the laud, and he had
come to the conclusion that a more desirable improvement
could not be made for so small an amount, and he hoped the
council would sanction it.

Mr. Bennett said the improvement must be carried out
by somebody, whether by the landowners or others ; and he
thought it would be the duty of the corporation to carry it
out at once, as at a future time it would cost a large amount
of money.

Mr: gteains said, he admitted that the proposed improve-
ment was desirable, but it involved a Ncry great principle.
Were these improvetatrats to be made for the benefit
of certain land speculators —(hear, tar)—at the 'RE-
' perm.' of the corporation 'He viewed this as a most
bare-faced attempt to swindle the corporation out of
£4OO. At first they werronly asked for 2100, but now. it
was shown that it would require £4OO, and it was doubted
whether that sum would be- enough.
Mr. Frocrscrr said, from thetenour of the debate it might
be imagined' that the commerce of Liverpool vtotild be iry--
jured if these improvements were not carried! out. lie'
was much autprised that such a, galaxy of talent was ea-
listed at the' other end of the- room in advocating the-
street improvements. If thi9 land were to' remain
for 500 years, it would be nothing else than- a bye-road.
When the corporate money wae,ta. be spent on improve-
ments they mustbe for the general good of the public.
Mr. Parker saiil'he never saw anything better " itrtled "
up' in his life,-that this Evertor-110: (Cries of- "'order,
ether.") He pointed to LimekilhLlane, for which two
improvement acts= had been passed; and nothing had yet
been'cione to it.

Earle said, ~sere was nothing -to. improve the-,
of Liverpool, but an,att of parliament to• force these people
who were exacting such large SUMS • oat of the corporate
purse, unmake proper 'atreets. He was-always an advceate
for improvements, lydrhe could not conscientiously recom-
mend. ping into an improvement of this. nature. These
little "ferry " build-4m' were a g!reat- nnisance, They
built licuses that the corporation"might i pay them for kw
to pull them down. He thought it was a very
principle for them to advance large .
improvement to other rrepple's property.
Mr. RyFer said, the improvements were

money for

absolutely n€

-sary, and if they were-not carried out now; they woti
%cost, at. a flitttre time,
.perhaps as many thousands as Om
would hundreds of potihds. He woula; therefore,-say, can
them out atronce. They-. were told that the- land-owne:
had met them very faiyi and were willing to sell the. lam
at a fair price; and he, therefore, thought- it ;lie duty of th
corporation to carry such, improvements out,
Mr. Alison said, he- agreed with,' Mrs. Steains, thi
although it was a small matter it involved agreat principle
IT-'a gentleman bought land it was hia. diit
that it was Oat in properand sufficient street
should --adopt this ireprov,
precedent, and they would
cases

be calle (1-' up on agaii

ofh€

Mr. Anderion said, his reason fo:.-,seconding- Mr. Stitt
amendment was, that he considered it would be a ver
great improvement at a small cost, and that the g
of pupulation is that neighbourhood-required-it..
Mr. Gladstone said the public had . certainly, an intere.,
itfhaving these impro-oments carsied out, but at the sam
time it would be extremely dangerous if the would allot
those who speculate in-land to come to the.funds of th
corporation. and make there ameaws of improving their own
position. It appeared to him that if the publialiad an in
terest in having these improvements narrir,cl rnnl firov Jima,

Teat increa:

the. projection, of Mr. Crostliwaiters house into the road ova
a.matter which would require some consideration, and hr
thought it would be well to have the matter• referred bae-k
again, that the committee might have an opportunity of
looking close into it. To leave the projection: as it is, woad
render the itavrovertents incomplete.

Mr. Picton said, tile questioar-Of the projeetion just raise
by Mr. Gadstone required aonsideration, and sufficient
notice had, not been taken of it. It ;vet
tional sum to remove it • an 2 the in-pros
ineffectua) without it.'
Mr. INUdruff pointed to ' numerous. other places in,thE
town wh'.eh required improvaent, foc-manv re;
much as Whitfield.flain

,st an ad

,nt woulclA

ars, qu

Mr. S. Holme replied to the varir-,,,u5. remarks mat- by
those ia:favour of the al-newnent, and: stated that the. esti-
mate of' £lOO was the estimate of the. deputation, an after
seeing that the oorporation.,were so good natured, thc.-made
an appiyation for £4OO.

Thii•Mayor then put the. amendment, and the voting wa
aa follows :—Tor : Aldermen Chilton, Bennett, Robinson
Councillors Stitt, • Crosthwaite,
Hutchison, Gladstone, Jeffery,
The- Mayor. Aldermen Dover,
Houghton, Hohne.
Corballv
Avison Bowing, I
,

son, Bart

ktfor' _Kitchen. .4qcoir,

Turner

, _ °matt, J ob, Earle, Johnson
Pictoni Hodson, Clint, Beckwith;, Robertson,. Farnworth
Anthony-, and Cropper.
The amendment was. deelarpA
and 1a for.

a. him, as

tion financially, ti the negooihtions which, I
understood, were, pending, upon the other side of the wa4
in reference-to. the Birkenhead Dock estate. That beiric
quarterly council, he believed he was perfectly in order
The -Mayor: No

t was not a quarterly council

. _
Mr.' Jeffery said, he would then put what he had to say
in the form, of a question. He understood that when any
property was about to be submitted for sale by the, finance
Committee of. the corporation,
,the• value was 7estinAted by
the surveyor, his valuation was, submitted to, thaebairman,
and deputy chairman, and it' was deemed of considerable,
if not of vital importance to the sale, that no other member
of the finance committee should be made aNttainted with
.the estimated value, which was the reserred' sum put
uPart the property to be submitted. Now, these two
estates, the corporate estate and the dock estate, :had, ae
they all knew; been' separated by legislative 'enactment.
The dock estate had the power to take compulsoiy posses-
sion of any land which in their requirements they might
stand in need of ; and if the owners of land should charge a
price for it which the board thought unreasonable, the
question was sttbmitted, under the powers of the act of
parliament, to arbitration. This had occurred, he under-
stood, upon the other side of the water. The Mersey
Board required a considerable amount of land, upon the
margin of -the''Birkenhead docks, The parties owning the
land had set a price upon it which the board thought
.higher than it ought to be. The board had, therefore,
very properly submitted the 'question to 'arbitration, and
had selected a gentleman to be their arbitrator who was
sitting in judgment upon their.side of the question for the
purpose of getting the property for them at the lowest
possible', price. He was, in fact, their advocate;
because there-was a third party sitting with the two, and
it
,would therefore,
,- ultimately, become a question
for that third party. It became a very important,question,
therefore, seeing that the corporation were interested in a
portion of the land about to be subjected to this arbitration,
to know who was the arbitrator who - had been selected by
the Mersey Beard, and whether he possessed any informa-,
tion which might operate to the prejudice of the corporation:
Now the Mersey Board hadselected as their arbitrator the
chairman of the finance Committee - of that council. The
corporation were ,interested to the extent; he believed, of
£50,000,, in round numbers, in the very questions about to
be at issue, 'Now it was an unfertunate thing that Mr:
Stewart was not: present that day. It was unfortunate, he
thorglit, that Mr. Ftewart, while he occupied. the position
of, chairman of the finance committee of the corporation,
should have accepted duties which were clearly antagonistic
to the duties he owed to the council. No man could serve
two masters. He spoke with all respect for Mr. Stewart,
but Mr. Stewart was only human,- and under such
circumstances, he (Mr. Jeffery) felt that the interests of
the corporation were not placed in that position in, which, ,

as representatives of the community, and custodians of the
corporate property, the members had a right to expect them
to be. During the short time that he (Mr:Jeffery) had
had the honour of a seat in the council, he had had an
opportunity of seeing how no man could serye two masters.
He had seen where there was united in one person an
interest in the Mersey Board with an interest in the Cor-
poration, on which side the leaning had been. He, there-
fore, said it was unwise and improper, on the part of the
council, to permit the council to be placed in such a position ;
and he hoped that, after these remarks, the chairman of
the finance committee would feel it his duty to pursue' one
of two courses—either to resign his seat as chairman of
the finance committee, or resign his seat as one of
the arbitrators upon the land in question. The
arbitration had not yet reached the interests of the
corporation. These were, however, - remotely affected
by the proceedings which were now in course of progress.
He believed he was right in saying that the chairman of
the finance committee was now in London upon that very
business. The first decision which was taken would no
donbt be received as a guide for all that would follow; and,
therefore, a considerable amount of injury might be caused
to the interests of the corporation. He begged, however,
that in makinc, the4e remarks he should not be misunder-
stood. He would be the last member of the council who
would impute impure• motives to Mr. J. Stewart. -He was,
however, bat human; and therefore he appeared to be doing
wrong in placing himself in such a position. It was; to be
hoped that he would take the first opportunity of relieving
himself from such a position. On another point Mr. Jeffery
also begged not to be misunderstood. He did not wish that
the council should extort from the Mersey board the last
shilling which that board was capable of paying. He was
sure it would be the Irish of the council to meet
them upon equitable terms ; but the council ought
he permitted to, bring 'forward such circumstances
as they could do, to shew what the just and equitable value
of the land was: and he knew of no witness they should sooner
produce• upon their side of the question than Mr. John
Stewart, if that gentleman had not fih•st entrammelled him-
self by becoming the paid advocate of the other side. (Hear,
hear.) He much regretted that Mr: Stewart was of pre-
sent : bat that was Mr. Stewart's fault, not his, and Mr.
Stewart was not attending the public-business in London,
but private business, for which he was' professionally paid..
He (Mr. Jeffery) thought the interests of the country would
be jeopardized, indeed seriously injured, if this opportunity
were permitted' to puns without this fact being brought
under the notice of tire council.

Mr. Alderman•HOlme said he was *rather in hopes -that
the Mayor would have suggested to Mr. Jeffery that he had
better reserve his remarks until Mr. Stewart' should be pre-
sent, and that Mi. Jeffery would, with his usual courtesy,
have given notice,tho Mr. Stewart. • It wouid be ;_improper
of him (Mr. Holine)` to soy anything connetted with the
subject, and he would therefore leave .111 r: Stewart to
dbfend his own conduct, which he did not= doubt that
gentlemen would he ' well able to do. (Hear; hear.) Mr.
Stewart had been for many years the valuer-of tlie docks,
and; in that capacity-The was employed. He wtrila' not say
one-word as to the anomaly of the position, because; doubt-
less--Mn Stewart would bealife to give satisfaethryreasons
for the coarse which he deemed it his public duty to pursue.
Mr. Xeffely's statement with reference to the course pursued
regarding- the valuing-of the property was correct - When
large propelties were offered ter sale the surveyor made
correct plans of the property, and submitted them- to the
finaneenonarnittee. The finance- committee brought up the
plans anda list of the property, which were placed,upon the
table, and they asked the- council to sanction the sale..
Previons'to the sale it Ives requisite for the security' of the-
corporation that there shenkralWays be a reservedbiti:' The
chairmtir and deputy-chairman were lade acquainted with
the reserved bid, and in order- to cheek the surveyor they-
examined' the property, and made- a valuation themselves:
Where the surveyor's estimate appeared too Tow they raised it,
where it seemed too high far the euretnt prices of property
they suggested a iowering:;:and'thny between the taree, the
chairman; the deputy chairman. andthe surveyor, a reserved
price was agreed upon. With reference to the property
to which Mir. Jeffery had alluded; thr re. was no doubt that
the Merseyboard were about to take a very. valuable piece
of river frontage belonging to the corporation. Air that
had yet been-done was in accordance with the act orparlii— f

make a demand which thi
cover the value of the land

knew would be sufffrient tc

The qtlestio,ri was not

'eferenee fir,London
The Town-clerk : Not the corporation land, yet
Mr. Horme,r That of theother landiewrners.

The Town-clerk : One of the other-landowners.
Mr. Holm-said the arbitratiiin regarding that land' would
be succeeded" by- others, and before any step' could be-taken
with reference• to the corporation land, the council must be
informed of 'the whole of the• proceedings, and the proceed-
ings must have• their sanction: Therefore, until that sanction
had been received, the corporation- land would remaiit
entirely imatatls quo.

anittee were confirmed

WATCY

COMMI

The pmdeeding,s of this, committee contained
of public importance.
Mr. Clint moved their -confirmation, which was
to without-diseussion.

lints of thiszommittee contained the follow-
Itcoonmendation to adopt certain parts of eiio-Local

HEAL'

adthing

The pro

uruverunmu ace, loan, comprises in 5(
thereof. Reconithendation to make-the following alteration_
in the treasurer's department, consequent on the death of
Mr. Widtiows, late collector of sanitary and other. rates :
1. To appoint Mr. James Rogers, at present a clerk. at £lOO
per annum, as collector on the lowest scale of salary, viz.,
£1.50 per annum. 2. TO increase the-Salary of Mr. JaMes
B. Tyrer froM £7O t,), £B5 per annum. 3. To appoint
Mr. IVr‘liay to fill Mr. Tyrer's situation, and increase
his salury'froml6s to .£7O per annum. 4. To appoint Mr:
Joseph W. Cooke as a. junior. clerk, at £6O per annum.
. • •

.ons *.;,2 ant

v. 11,t5t.,-unnnenaation- to appoint
Turector of Nuisances, at

Robert Hic. o .ins
-.
f£l

.ary _..,,,nper annum
re-arrangement- of the Staff of that department, conse•

let4rn

Ge•lst Meeting

The recommendation to adapt certain parts, of the Local
fi-byernment AO: was postponed until the. next council,
there not being, the requisite number of members (two-
.

he council) present

attention to toe suojeet of the returns as to common
lodging-houses, and alluded to Mr. Theodore Rathbonets
letter upon the subject. lie defended; the officers of the
cominittee, for the manner in which they had carried out
the provisibns of the act; and, maintained, that they had
exercised the powers given by the act, far as they were
le;ally entitled to do. lie reminded the council
of the extremely, delicate and difficult character
of the duties entrusted to the of tiers of health, under
the act, and contended that, upon the whole, the duties had
been, discharged with the same efficknoy as those of all the
other departments of the health. committee, under whose.
diiections the public health of the town had been, so greatly
improved.

Mr; Earle expressed a full concurrence with the views of
Mr. Rathbone's letter. He believed that half the prostitu-
tion of the town arose fro= the common lodging-houses.
He, therefore, moved, as an amendment, that the duty of
the registration be placed in the hands of the police.
Mr. Woodruff seconded the motion.

A somewhat lengthened debate took place, in which Mr.
Cropper, Mr. Alderman Holme, Mr. Anderson, and other
gentlemen supported the amendment, and Mr. Hodson,
Mr. Beckwith, Mr. Clint, Mr. Alderman Cooper, and
others, opposed. It Was filially • suggested by several
members that the question 'should be postponed for a
month, to give the council full, time to consider it. Mr.
Earle agreed to adopt this suggestion, and the subject was
postponed Accordingly.
The general proceedings were confirmed,

The council adjourned at four o'clock, to eleven o'clocl
on Monday.

~.

SINGULAR PHENOMENNON. —A correspondent at 'New
York sends us a description of a phenomenon in natural
history, even more wonderful than the Siamese twins,
namely, a two-headed girl who:is being exhibited publicly
in Georgia. Her colour is that of a dark mulatto, and she
appears to be two girls, so far as tWo heads, four arms, and
four legs and feet would indicate personal identities ; and
yet she has but'one body. The spinal column branches off
about the position of the lower portions of the shoulder
blades, and connects with the neck and heads of the girl.
The abdOminal 'portion seems the naturally formed body of
one person. The child, we understand, was born in North
Carolina, and is about eight years old. It has two
symetrically formed heads, very handsome faces, sparkling
eyes, and very pleasing in manners, address, and appear-
ance. The announcement bill states that "her mental
faculties are of a superior order and double, thereby
enabling her to converse with two
persons at one time,
on one or different subjetit; or one head may be
engaged while the other remains pasasive. No difference
in the intellectual facatitks bf either head is pereeptible."—
Milletin.

Quebec.

SHIPPING INTELLIGENCI

THIS DAY,

lIIGII WATER.

NOTICE.-

Morn.
4 12....
WIND

Even. Height
440 ..15 2

Chief
&con
height by
York dire
Freight Sn ]
Pircels for
Packages,
p:arpose
Pomona P bon in A
Earl of Derby •• •• b freight,
Adriatic
Albatross -
Jane and Elizabeth,Plin' " kol
44 1
James
. /0
Jenne Auguste.. Theos
Fairfield,. .. .... Chad':
L
Louis Maurice .... 1,4% PERSIA.—
Prosper w- ARABIA..,
ASIA
CANADA

At LIVERPOOL, ...N.N.W....Light breeze.
„ HoLyttE,ID„..W.S.W... Light breeze

A R R

Etna
Imperial (ss) Smyrna
Istria Buenos Ayres
Mceander (ss) Trieste
Plutarch New York
Webster New York
Thomas Tiandford . „ __ _

Thetis (ss)
Auguste..
Itariequin
Nancy ,

Londesboro'
Nemesis (ss)
Advance ..

Wm Henry ..
Mary Lloyd
Commodore ..
Ind/an (ss)
Norah Greame

Phcenfx
British Merchant

Alexandria
....Ghent
..Montreul
.. Morocco

Pernau

Bore
. Bathurst
. Gibraltar
. Dunkirk

IV E D

D
Ranger Darbe
City of Washington:li 1°
Coniston AFRICA

Tafo (ss)
Hertrales
Tarnerlane

, Boston
Montreal
, Bombay
Antwerp

Saldplah
Roie

Heimiug. e

EUROPA.
PERSIA ''.
'TRACT'S. 6i ARABIA .
landed at di
LrrAttPoor.7 SUIt,A ASIA
HOLYHEAD, July s.—The Sylla, from Swansea to 1" CANADA
GO The Pass.
pool, ran whore in Church Bay, and has broken up;
Saved.
of New Ye]
The Goldffnder, arrived' here from Akvak was 120 u'' Passas
on the passage; and during 112 days carried :der main-5N I
sail. ,

PERSIA
'6lOO ASIA ARABIA
1.0 ...
-IN CANADA
31eib.,„ °' AFRICA
IP EUROPA..
• P • I 4 PERSIA •
ervaill

MAR/TIME 1

CONSTANTTNLE, July' 61 Belnaont,.. DrUttlw-
for Liverpool, ho been stranati; requires £2gi for sail
2

nd expense

l'nese rate

_ __.-
, Wi
than that q
HONGKONG, It s.—The- Jeremiah Garnett, frliPw These st 4
Bangkok, arrived here, reports strong N.E. wiuds-the gle) Second cat
part of the passage; lost an anchor-and twenty-sevan• fatb,,°' Passehge
of freight, 1
chain, and made a deal of water. (Mdm. : A-letter fru.
the captain states the vessel to be lght.) tonal lugga
Gb-LcurrA, May IT—The Mary Spencer, arri-md Passenge
had passed. over a buoy; her bottom; will be examined ' takes the 11/
divers: The Marian, moored off the Tower in shallovi repectflll,
sat upon an anchor, became very lead, and is now iiTd , allowed to'
but not: ready for surveyc The Chanee; Perkin, bein„.leo, Parcels v
at Akyah, came on here for repairs, and grounded in ZI-intd '5'1121::1,
Reach, was this morning- examined and water seen rtill'" office. No
out by the hooding-ends on the port-how, aid an aara APPIY; h
A
hole found near the five-feet ,te,. --ir • &I. G.Bat
QuEniff,

,(ft water-mars. Currie, 21
June 24.—The Coral Isle; from Liverpooi, Boulevard
oring,ing up on the 18th inst., fouledza: ?mach of ancll street; in
carried away windlass, annad to slip Mn an anchor
thirty fathoms chain. The Al6aturday,
The submarine cable from Point of -,kvr, River Dec. " the Landis
Hilbre Island, was successfully laid this morning by stein Twl o'cloc
tug Resolute. j PRI I'ISH
HAsll3triira.,,Tuesday.—The-Leith stearker Dunedin, barr, for this porn with passengers and a general cargo, was Pit r"
collision last" night with the- Lady Alice-• Lambton, screq
steamer, outward bound, and the Dunedin immediately
went down fa,six fathoms of water. Crew, and passenger
saved.

. k
ANS
The J I

SPOKEN

Will be de

May 17, Inlindin, from Cochiir,. iii lat 12 Ton 6W.
May 24, Woodcoat, bound south, in lat 2 Sr lon 20 W.
June 4, Solo, Bahia for Falmouth, in lat lon 29 W.
June 25, Haidee, off Quebec.
June 25, Bacchus, off Grosse Island. -
June 25, Ailsa,. Annandale, Watersprite, Pearl, Constii4
Great -Britain, and Aspasia —all off the Pilgril
June 26, Nova Scotian (ss), hence to Quebec: in lat 50
lon 63 W.
3, Muscongus.
3, Maurice, hence westward, in lat 5
3, Devon,: hence westward, in lat 51

Freight

Goods
Iluskissor
Apply it
Foord ; in
to

'X, lon 9 VV.

OUTPCIrfS,

0 9 W.

v a I, ale CMS, TIOM
Bay ; C'alcutta ; Dione, Table Bar; Anne LogO:
Panama ; Indbne, -Nelson's Bay ; Didholt, Trinidad
Zetland, Quebec ; Struckshcm, Porto Rico ;
Calcutta ; Marfa,. Christiana-; Two Brothers, Stettin ;
Theo, Gravelines ; Lionne; Gravelines ; Pm•et, Gravelines;
Vanguard, Fao-ohoo-foo ; Ganges, Quebec • Darnel,
Warms ; Schwalbe (s), , Brc,,men. Sailed':: ;rbe Miles
Standish for Calcutta ; Sylphide, Kurrachee ; Despatch,
Cape Good Hope.
DEAL, June G.—Passed The Eliza Staart, Bombay to
London ; Mlford, St Vincent to London ; Salamanca'
London to Adelaide ; Thorwald;' Alicante ter Hamburg;
Icense, Columbo to. London ;: Guilmenono, Oporto to Lon'
don ; Clarinda, Monte Video, to Hull; Jenny Felix, Monte
Video to London ; Ameadrae Bahia to London; Inglewode,
Moulmein to, London ; Evarrgelina, London, to Port Natal;
Eliza, Bombay to . London. -Anchored': Mary Scott,
London to Adelaide ; BoSpborus, Caleuttat to London (11/
tow) ;• Ocean, :BataVia to Alasterdain.

Or other

CAMBRI

ShiPii;
load ofe E
Packages.

o_.
ror par
!l'Orleans ;
Da London
tqal J. Bur
&, Mark

STEAM

QUEENSTIWN, July 6:—Arrived: C
stantinople-; W. Lopet, St. John, N.
from Altona ; Miss Nightingale, LondoL,
GREENaeIi, June 6.:----Arrived : The Pfzuro, -from lb,
vannah; Gilbert Wheaton, St John,N.B. ; Sonoro, 5:
John, N.B, ; Augusta Louise (ss), Dunkirk ; Faith,
Nazaire ; Margaret Pryde, Sines ; Flown, Palermo ; Pete
and James', Marseilles-;: John Bail (su)„ Montreal ; Inker•
man, 1-104 head.

Aoni;st, froin
B Off : Blot War/

- .
try
ditrt 1,

Are inte

SIIANCRO
SHAMRO
SHARRO

N.8.-i3

Pleaaedi;
Sligo, and

FOREIGN PORTS.
Athanian (ss), from Africa for Livert
mails, arrived at Madeira, July.-2..
—dope (ss), hence at Madeira, July 2, with outward
mails,fav Africa.
Nava Scotian (ss), hence off Antioosto, June 26.
Christabel, Lamb.
—ton from 4allp af

with the home-

aoOds---r

A-dins, and Mermaid, from Maithitu,
Albion, Wheeler, hence at Madras. -
Julia, from London ; Jeremiah. Garnett,-Bangkok ;-
, and Judith, Mama° all at Hong liongi
contest, and Fiery Cross, from Hong Kong at Wliampoo
Richard Cobden, from Singapore at Swatow.
Famine% filing; •J. W. Johnson, Corlyon; Sweinanir
Cook ; Minerva, and Marie Elise—all hence at Cronstadt•
Louisa, Dudley; Swift, Ferguson ; and Lod: Lyons,
Dynatus—all hence at Alexandria.
PactoXls. (ss), Mills, hence at Malta, anrl

-both at liadmg,

Bibby, Singapore

;ailed for

Eleanor, Watts, hence at Malta.
Enrichetta, Boitard, hence at Cagliari.
lonia (6s), Bonfellow hence at Genoa.
Nelson, Rose, hence at Cadiz.
Gannet (ss), hence at Dunkirk.
Troth, and Countess of Seafleld, from Shmighai at Swatow.
Euphrates, from Swatow, and Radnagone from Singly
pore ; both at Amoy.
Emma, from Shanghai at Poo-choo-foo.
Windex, Bride of the Seas, and Minnehaha, from Japan,
and Livingston, iron). Swatow ; all at Shanghai.
Ellen Austin, andlohn Kelly ; both hence at New York•
Samuel Pales, Young, hence at Boston.
Doctor Kane, hence at Montreal.
Euxine, Watson ; Illutrious, Miles ; Colonist, Welsh;
Lawson ; and Isis, Jewett ; all hence at

Agarne mnc

Appointed
_Ap tc
Mancplyhe-at

M. PERREE, auditor of the Council of State, who hesjust
returned to Paris from the Emperor Napoleon, to whom he
carried despatches, relates that he found his Majesty the
morning after the battle of Solferino in a house at Cavriana.
His Majesty had passed the night in an ill-furnished room,
which was also occupied by some of his suite, and the
Emperor was only separated from them by a simple curtain.
The Emperor was In perfect health, and entertained the
auditor at breakfast, A table in the room was covered with
maps and plans. After reading the despatches, the Em-
peror prepared his answers to them, and in a few hours sent
off M. Perree. An interesting fact. was related to that
gentleman:—Two children of the family to whom,the house
belonged were in the morning caressed andn presented with
sweetmeats by the Emperor of Austria, and in the evening
received caresses and bonbons from the Emperor of the
French !

lir A RAGE. ABOUT NormNo.---Hyde-park-corner is the
choice rendezvous of those who love to look on a lord. Here
the Queen passes by. The bewildered foot, passenger bad
cause to be grateful when, some time ago, a kindly official
placed a small paved place of refuge in the centre of the
road, fronting Apsley House; where he might take breath.
For some weeks this little resting-place has been covered in
by a mysterious tarpaulin tent. The thing is now un-
shrouded, and the mystery is solved. And, since the time
when that disreputable person whom Moore made famous
as the " Veiled Prophet," revealed his ugliness to the
world, we do not believe a more offensive and more insulting
spectacle has been uncovered to a curious crowd. Had the
wildest lunatic employed his addled brains on the work, he
could scarcely have produced a more tasteless and incon-
gruous enormity than that which now disgraces Hyde-park-
corner, under the immediate sanction, we suppose, of Lord
John Manners, the late head of the Board of Works. If
this deliberate outrage oa good taste and public decency i 5
tamely endured, it is a pity that the brilliant idea thus
embodied should not be Nay worked oltt,---Lancet.

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