The Northern Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1857-03-24 00:00:00

NORM- AND SOUTH TOXTETH WARDS.

The friends and supporters of Messrs. Horsfall and
Turner, in these wards, held a meeting last night in the
Park Theatre, which was crowded in every part, but,
without any disparagement to Messrs. llorsfall and
Turner, we assert that such a lot of people we never saw
collected within the four walls of any building. This
`remark of course does not apply to the stage, where there
were a few respectable persons, but with this
exception there were not ten vo'ers in the Theatre.
The conduct of the assembly was just in keeping
rather disorderly ; and, if the Conservative party rest
their claims on such meetings as that at the Park Theatre
last night, the chances are " all up " with the " party.'
At a quarter to eight o'clock, the chair was taken by Mr.
Halhead, who addressed the meeting, and said he rejoiced
la calling them brother elector; alit frearnoni and hoped

that, as they HU often done their duty befcire,,theY would
do so again, by returning their candidates: He called On
them to support Conservative and Protestant prindiples;
as they Clad done so before, (Hear, hear.) Mr. Horsfall
had served them day and night, and he was willing to do
so again. He thought a more fitting colleague could riot
be found to Mr. Horsfall than Mr. Turner. (Cheers.) He
eulogised the Conduct of Mr. Turner in the Town Council
and the Dock Committee, and said, that although Mr.
Ewart was a respectable man, he did not represent the
principles that Mr. Turner :represented. He apologised
for the absence of Mr. John Stewart, and called on Mr.
Shand to move the first resolution.
Mr. Shansi came forward, and for some time stood at
the foot lights amid the utmost confusion. At last, he
got a hearing, and then took a review of the circumstances
which caused the dissolution of parliament, and went on
to canvass the merits of the different candidates, and
referred to the elections of 1852 (the everlasting theme)
and 1855, the celebrated Benham" defeat. Ile spoke
of Mr. Jeffery and Mr. Rathbone, and in regard to the
latter he cried, " Pity the sorrows of a poor old man,"
and then went on to Mr. George Melly, amid some con-
fusion, Here the speaker paused for some time, until
cries of "go on " roused him, and he then spoke about
bishops, and Dr. Mile-4'olle and Lord Palmerston. (This
was received with load laughter.) He was proceeding to
read some document which he said was issued by Mr.
Brocklebank, when Messrs. Horsfall and Turner entered
the theatre, and were received with long continued
cheering, Kentish fire, &c. The speaker went on to charge
Mr. 13rocklebank with not having got his ships built in
Liverpool. (Cheers.) He trusted that on Saturday next,
by ten o'clock, they would show their opponents that the
Conservatives were the men. He then proposed a resold-
tion to the effect, pledging the meeting to return Messrs.
Horsfall and Turner.
Mr. Corell seconded the resolution, amid cheers and
interruption, and contended that Mr. Turner would fight
the battle of the Town Dues;
A Voice " Aye, and Maynooth.'' (Cheers).
The speaker hoped the two representatives would be
found voting against the Maynooth grant. He then
seconded the resdldtion, whidh was carried unanimously.
The :Chairman then called on Mr. Horsfall, whof on
coming forward, was loudly applauded. He said he came
forward to give an account of his stewardship. He
eulogised the electors of Toxteth Ward, for in that ward
the largest majority. for the Conservatives was always
found. (Cheers.) fie was charged as being the oppo-
nent of progress, but for All progress that was beneficial
he was the advocate. (Hear, hear.) He opposed pro-
gress and reform—progress in the money diredtion—of
the Town Dues (hear), and he spoke of Sir F. Thesigaa
who had warmly supported the opposition to that bill.
so that it was thrown out. (Hear, hear.) Passim from
that to another bill, he alluded to the bill which came in
the character of a private bill—the Mersey Bill—and he
called upon the people of Liverpool never to be satisfied
until they reformed that rotten constitutution, the Board
Of Trade. He then repeated the observations he made at
the Amphitheatre in regard to the Board of Trade. He
said he was for ecclesiastical reform, and the reform of
all abuse. (Loud Cheers.) He referred to the ballot; and
expressed the same opinions as he had already on that
point, and objected to it, as all the community ought to
know how votes were given. (Hear, hear.) On the ques-
tion of education he thought his opinions were well
known, and on the subject of Maynooth, he had spoken
in the House of Commons, so that there could be
no mistake about it, as he recorded his vote against the grant.
(Kentish fire.) Ile believed itomanisin to be wrong, and
therefore he opposed the grant. (Prolonged Kentish fire, and
cheers.) He regretted that his friend Mr. Spooner found
opponents not in the Liberal, but in the Conservative party.
He did not mind Liberals voting for the grant, but what could
be said of Protestants, who believed it to ho wrong to vote for
the measure ? (Hear, and cheer 3.) He read an extract from
the Act of Union between England and Ireland, to show that
if there was a compact for the grant, it had expired in 1820,
according to the act. He next alluded to the opening of the
Crystal Palace, and the national museum and gallery, en the
Sunday, and said that the promoters of that question
had abandoned it,, seeing the country was oppos"d
to it. (Hear, hear.) He had given his opinion
on the licensing system, and was in favour of the
press st system of licensing, and against the billeting
system, which was unfair and oppressive
A Voice : " Are you au advocate for church rates ? "
Ihe Hon. Gentleman said, if a bill was brought in to
sweep away church rates, he would have voted against it,
bust he was for an equitable adjustment of th; question of
chitreb rates.
Here considerable confusion followed by a fellow in
the gallery asking " What about the marriage of the
Princess 'loyal ?"
Mr. Horsfall assured the person, that if the lady
consulted him on her marriage he would give her the
best advice he could, hut if the question of dowry camel
before him, he would vote for a dowry such as was
worthy of a British princess an i the Engli,h crown.
(Cheers.)
A Voice : " How much would you give her?" (Con-
fusion.)
Mr. Horsfall : If I were the British minister I would tell
you ; but if the question comes before me I 101 l see that it is
not too little nor too much. (Great cheering.)
Here a person in the gallery got up, and in a stentorian
voice cried out : want to know if spiritual matters are to
govern politics, or politics govern spiritual matters?"
This caused an unbounded shout of laughter and confusion,
which lasted for some time, and when silence was in some
measure restored, the chair Man interfered, and said there was
another meeting at which the candidates were to attend, arid
he begged the meeting would allow the honourable gentleman
to proceed.
Mr. Horsfall, after a few words, then thanked the meeting,
and sat down amid loud cheers. •

The Chairman then called on Mr. Turner, who, in
coming forward, was greeted with several rounds of
Kentish fire. He went on to recapitulate the speech
which he had made at the Amphitheatre, referring to the
miserable and vexatious opposition given to his election
of 1852, and he, therefore, claimed their suffrages before
Mr. Ewart. (Hear, hear.) He alluded to the abuse
heaped on him by the liberal party, and said there was
no allusion made by the Liberals to the petition that was
presented against him. He again went on the petition,
which he alleged was for the purpose of disfranchising the
Freemen of Liverpool (Hear, hear.) He hoped the
Freemen of Liverpool would bear that in mind,
and that the Liberals would, if ever in their power,
disfranchise the Freemen of Liverpool. They had
applied for a commission for that purpose, and he could
assure them that if they ever got an oppor:usity, they
would disfranchise the freemen of the borough. (Hear.)
In regard to Education, he expressed the same opinions
as he had at the Amphitheatre, and said he was opposed
to Maynooth—(Cheers)—and he thought th€se were the
main questions he had to answ,r. He was opposed to
the vote by ballot and universal suffrage. In regard to
the China question he would say that, if he had been in
the House, he should have voted with the Government on
that question, as he thought it was a right question.
A Voice: " Will you vote for the expulsion of the
Jesuits from England." (Confusion.)
Mr. Turner went on to address the meeting, repeating
his speeches at former meetings, and trusted that they would
nos see their principles nullified in the House of Gammons,
and therefore he called on theni to return him along with
Mr. Horsfall. (Loud cheering, and Kentish fire.)
Mr. Robertson proposed, sad Mr. Campbell seconded a
resolution, to the effect that all legitimate means should
be used to return the candidates. The motion passed
amid loud eheers, and after a vote of thanks to the chair.
man, the meeting separated.

PITT STREET WARD.

➢fEETING OF THE COOPERS.

A meeting of the Coopers' Association, in favour of
Messrs. Horsfall and Turner, was held at the Vine Tavern,
Pitt street. The stairs was lined with men lying quite
drunk, and the room was full of people who ap-
peared to have " spent the evening out !" At
half past nine the chair was taken by Mr. W. Lind, and
shortly after Mess s Horsfall and Turner entered the
room, and were received with loud applause. Several
of the gentlemen who were at the Park Theatre, accom-
panied the candida•es,
The Chairman at once introduced Mr. Horsfall, who
was most warmly greeted. He had, he said, addressed
three meetings that evening, and he t at Itwi that meeting
for the cordial reception given to him. He assured hem
that, if elected to represent them, he would ,!o all he
could to protect their rights. (Elear, hear.) He said, if
the privileges of the freemen were struck at, the rights
and privileges of the aristocracy would not sand long.
(Cheers.) He alluded to the Mersey Conservancy Bill,
which he called a dangerous and insidious measure.
(Hear, hear.) If he were their representative, he would
do his duty to the town.
A voice : "And Turner shall help you." (Cheers.)
Mr. llorsfall then said he would not address them on
general topics, upon which he had addressed two meetings
that evening, but he was ready to als;ver any question that
might be pot to him.
A Voice: " We can trust you ; we don't want to ask you
any questions. We can trust you." (Cheers.) •
The Chairman : Is there any gentleman who wishes to
ask Mr. Horsfall any question ? (Loud cries of " No, no.")
The Chairman then introduced Mr. Turner, who was
received with loud cheering. He proceeded to address the
meeting in the same terms which he had delivered at the
Park Theatre, and said he was ready to answer any
question.
A Voice : " When you get to the house you must disfran-
chise the Pope." (Loud laughter.)
Mr. Turner referred to his past services, and said if he
were selected he would do his best to serve the country so
dear to them all. (Loud cheers.)
The meeting declined to put any questions to Mr. Turner.
Harrison propesed the first resolution, and said the