Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-11-15 00:00:00

Mr. jOIINSON moved, and Mr. RIDI
Mclennan John Buck Lloyd be tl

onded, that

deputy chairman

Alderman LLOYD suggested that an old member Of the
committee should be elected.

Mr. ROGERS moved, and Alderman LLOYD seconded,
at Mr. Ridley be the deputy-chairman.

Mr. JOHNSON said he had acted for many years with
Mr. Alderman Lloyd upon the Markets Committee, and
that gentleman had paid more attention and shown a
greater interest in the affairs of the market estate than
almost any other member.

Mr. CROPPER said there was a very good reason why
the deputy-chairman should be au old member of the
committee. Mr. Ridley had opposed the late system of
management, and therefore it was due to him that he
should go to the helm as second in command, for under
an entirely new management they might get on better.
Alderman LLOYD said he felt he should not be doing
his duty to the Council, if he did not .at once accept
any office that the Council placed upon him;. but there
were things which had been under consideration for
some considerable length of time, and he would very
much prefer that those subjects were brought under the
notice of the new committee by some member of the
old committee, and therefore he begged that Mr. Ridley
might be elected deputy chairman.

Mr. Ridley was then elected; there being 6 votes
for; and'3 against him.

The CHAIRMAN briefly thanked the committee for the
honour that had been conferred upon him, and said he
trusted the committee would work harmoniously to-
gether, and give satisfaction to the Council and to the
public.
The following sub-committees were then formed :
St. John's and Fish. Market—Messrs. Johnson, Shim-
min, Holden, Cropper, Kitchen, and Lloyd.
St. James's, Gill-street, and Cleveland-squave--
Messrs. Holden, Shimmin, Rogers, and Cropper.
St.
,Martin's Market—Messrs. Houghton, Haydock,
Nickson, and Barton.

During the election of members for the Si. John's
Market sub-committee, Mr. Cropper suggested that the
same objection that had been raised with reference to
Mr. Johnson being placed on the general committee,
would apply equally to his being placed upon the sub-
committee.

Mr. JOHNSON very warmly expressed his astonishment
at this remark, and said it was almost too contemptible
to reply to.

Mr. SHIMMIN expressed his belief that Mr. Johnson
would never exercise any influence that he possessed
in Lime-street Ward in an improper manner in refer-
ence to the market estate.

A , market constable, named Bevan, was reported for
drunkenness when on duty in Cleveland-square Market
on Saturday evening. The committee decided by 8 votes
against 2 that he should be dismissed, as an example to all
the other servants in their employ, and it was intimated,
through the chairman, that the committee were deter-
mined to commence a severe system of discipline amongst
their officers and servants, and that any one found drunk
would be immediately dismissed from his office.
The CHAIRMAN said the next subject for consideration
was the scheme for a wholesale market.•

The matter was referred to a sub-committee of the
whole committee for consideration and a report.

Mr. JOHNSON said he doubted whether any site that
might lso propoood to the Counoil would be entirely
satisfactory to that body. A suggestion had been made
to make a wholesale market on the outskirts of the
town, but that, he considered, would be an entire
failure ; and as something had been said about the
continuation of Gill-street Market to Pembroke-place,
he had asked the surveyor to give the committee a
sketch of it, and he found that the whole would give
an area of between 7,000 and 8,000 square yards.
The SURVEYOR produced the sketch, but said he had
no idea of the value of the.property.
Some conversation took place in 'reference to the
servants of the committee entering sick clubs, and some
members expressed an opinion in favour of such a
movement, but no steps were taken in reference to the
matter.

The Manager of St. John's Market was instructed t o
prosecute Mr. Robert Isaacs, a twilit in the St. John's
Fish Market, for causing an obstruction by piling up
hampers and boxes of fish opposite his shop. This was
stated to be a common offence by the, tenants, who
refused to abate the nuisance or to pay toll for the
accommodation.

Mr. RIDLEY drew attention to the present state of
Cleveland-square Market, and the attention of the sub-
committee was directed to the matter.

On the motion of Mr. KITCHEN, a copy of the report
of the special committee, of which Mr. Bowring was
chairman, was directed to be sent to each member of
the committee.
On the motion of the -CHAIRMAN, each member was
ordered to be supplied with a copy of the markets' bye-
laws.
The coramittee then proceeded to the transantinn of

financial 1

usuiess