Northern Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1859-12-06 00:00:00

COUNTY COURT.--YESTERDAY.

(Before J. B. BLAIR, Esq., Judge.)
COMMITMENTS.—R. Parry, Northumberland-street,
was sentenced to fourteen days' imprisonment (warrant
to be suspended for a month), John Gardener, 26,
Lower Mann-street, to fcurteen days (warrant to issue
in, a fortnight), and George Clarke, 3, Coleridge-street,
to fourteen days (warrant to 'issue in a week), for non-
compliance with previous orders of the court.
CLAIM BY. A " CHIROPODIST" FOR " DOCTORING" A
DOG.—The plaintiff, William Teasdale, is a chiropodist
(English, corn-doctor), who declined to give his address,
and the defendant, Philip Sampson, a licensed victualler,
in Roe-street. The plaintiff claimed £5 for professional
attendance upon " Come-on-Macduff," a happy dog,
rejoicing in this Shaksperian cognomen, and " residing"
with the defendant. " Come-on-Macduff" is a sporting
character, and, that he might gratify this pardonable
propensity, he was taken by his master, on the 16th Sept.,
1858, to a coursing-match at Ince, where he met with an
accident. When the " run" was over, " Come-on-Mac-
duff" was found to, have sustained a severe wound
on the log, having trodden upon something sharp, and
the plaintiff, who happened to be present, offered -his
assistance, bound up his wound, and ordered the dog to
be taken, to the nearest hotel. This was done ; and
subsequently the canine invalid was borne to the house
of his master, where he was many times visited pro-
fessionally by the plaintiff, and at length became conva-
lescent. When asked by the defendant what his charge '
was, the plaintiff alleged that he replied that it was
uncertain how the dog would turn out, but, that if he
turned out well, he would, with the defendant's con-
currence, agree to take for his services half the first
stake which the dog should win. Alleging that the
defendant agreed to this, the plaintiff rested his case
upon his own evidence, which was to this effect, and the
, evidence of a man named ,Wilding, who said that on
the 17th N0v,1,958, in match between his dog and
"Come-on-Maeduff" the latter was the winner of a sweep-
at stake of£lo. Mr. Sampson, in defence, said, that when the
-1 dog was found to be lamed, the wound was attended to
by another man; but after
,the wound was bound up,
d. the plaintiff came up "jumping like, a maniac," pro-
duced a box, said he had materials in it for anything of
that sort, and almost insisted on removing the bandages,
which he replaced with a strap. The strap was kept on
for a day, or two, and the dog was then
:taken .to a
veterinary, surgeon, who cured him. He asked the
plaintiff on the ground what he had to pay him for his
trouble, and the plaintiff replied, " Oh, nothing ; I
will oaA and have a glass of brandy and water with you
and a cigar." The plaintiff did call, had brandy and
water, and cigars, and asked the defendant if he would
recommend him to the coursing club as no man lune,
-I_ more about dogs and horses than he did, adding
that he was cousin to the Queen, had £15,000,000
coming to him, and that he would " stand" a very
handsome "feed," •if .defendant would favour him with
the desired recommendation. The plaintiff called, and
had brandy and water and cigars three or four times ;.
but the last time, which was about, a month before the
summons in the-present case was issued;. defendant told
him he must pay for his brandy and wafer and cigars,
as he had had quite enough. The defendant produced
a piece of 'strapping which the,plhinfiff bad given him,
saying it was corn plaster, wbereupon the plaintiff
eennneneed.,an eulogy of its medical properties, btit he ,
was stopped• by his Honour, who said he had noambition.-
to be initiated into the mysteries of the plaintiff's pro-
fession. Two witnesses were called
,by the defendant ;
the first, a person who said he had cured the dog, that
the plaintiff's treatment was improper, and that the
charge usually made for dressing •au animal's wound was
a shilling; 'the second, a man who was on the ground,,
and who said that he heard the defendant ask the
plaintiff what his charge would be, and the plaintiff
reply that he would go and have a glass of brandy and
a cigar. His Honour said the case was not made 'out to
his satisfaction ; it was like one of those claims of which
they had many there, and which were often manufac-
tured by an ingenious plaintiff. Verdict for defendant,

EMIGRATION FROM LIVERPOOL

The official returns of the emigration from the Mersey
for the month just concluded have been completed by
the Government authorities, and when compared with
those of the preceding month of October exhibit 'a
decline of nearly one-half, as well as, a considerable
falling off when compared with those for the corres-
ponding period of 1858. This decline is chiefly observ-
able in the emigration to the United States, that to
Australian ports being pretty much as last month; The
principal falling off appears to have taken place in Irish
passengers, although both English,. Scotch- and
foreigners participate in the general' decline.
During the month 10 vessels sailed for the
United States under the Act, carrying 67 cabin and
1,482 steerage passengers, of Whom' 388 were English,
39 Scotch, 991 Irish, and 64 were foreigners, against,
in October, .17 ships, conveying 133 cabin and 3,670
steerage passengers, 907 of whom were English, 89
Scot* 2,526 Irish, and 148 foreigners, being fallinga ,
off of 2,254. In the corresponding month of last. Year
the numher of cabin passengers was 80, and the steerage
1,825, comprising:s7s English, 85 Scotch, 1,078 Irish,
and 87 foreigners. The above is not inClusive of " short
ships," not coming under the provisions of the Passenger
Act of 1855, of which six sailed during the month, with
132 steerage passengers. Nor does it embraCe the pas-
sengers carried out by the Cunard or Canadian steam-
ships to Portland, which conveyed 567 cabin passengerS
to the 'United States. To the Australian colonies the fall-
ing off is in by no means the same proportion as to the
United States, the total decline being. about 100 when
compared with the month of October, but a decrease of
about 500 when compared with the corresponding Month
of 1858. During the past month five vessels were de-
spatched to Melbourne,' yictoria, with 30 cabin and 993
steerage passengers-427 English, 189 Scotch, 344
Irish, and 33 foreigners, 'against in the previous: month
50 cabin and 868 steerage passengers-390 English, 83
Scotch; 347 Irish, ^and 43 foreigners. In the corre-
sponding period of 1858 6.5 cabin and 1,604 steerage
passengers sailed for Melbourne. In. "short ships" 33
persons took their departure during the month. To
New South Wales one ship was despatched' with
432 Government emigrants-219 English, 53 Scotch,
and 160 Irish, against' in October 445 steerage Govern- '
ment emigrants-171 English, 60 Scotch, and 214
Irish. To New Zealand the usual monthly liner sailed
with 15 cabin and 227 steerage passengers-141 English,
28 Scotch, and 18 Irish, being an increase 'of above
100 over last month, when 2 cabin and 136 steerage
passengers sailed-91 English, 29 Scotch, 15 Irish,
and 1 foreigner. To South America one, "a3hort
ship" sailed with 4 passengers, against 21 in November,
1858, and to the West Coast of 'Africa the mail steamer
conveyed 30 cabin passengers under the Act; the total
emigration to all parts was 112 cabin, and 3,134 steerage,
against 185 cabin, and 6,369 steerage in October, and
against 146 cabin aud 3,848 steerage in the corresponding
period 4'1858. Including "short ships" the aggregate
number of passengers sailing fforn the Mersey amounted
to 4,194 souls, against 7,149 in October; being a falling
off of nearly 3,000 souls. It shoald be added, however,
that last month there was no emigration to either the
Cape of Gocid Hope or the East Indies ; while,- in
October, 222 free emigrants'were sent to the former
colony, and 1,023 soldiers' wives were sent to the East
Indies ; both of whom were included in the October
return, If we deduct, then, these numbers from the
November returns it will reduce the decline to about
1,700 souls. _

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CO3intrrAlL volt Rehrtruk. -L-On Saturday, - Eliza
Palmer, a married woman, was committed for trial at
the ensuing assizes for Sta,ffordilfire, the charge of
wilful and corrupt'perjary. On the 25th of 'November
she swore in the same court that on, the previous day
she saw one William Bratt, one of her husband's work-
men, take her husband's watch from a nail in the shop;
and walk off with it. This she asseverated several
times; and a young woman partially corroborated luir by
saying .that she saw Bratt go towards the part of the shop
wherethe watch hung, put up his hand, and return it
to his pocket. Since the commit;.ll, the parents of a
boyimined Rigby, a neighbour of Palmer's, aged thirteen,
foundhim melting down the silver case of a watch in a
small pot, and learnt afterwards that he was in possession
of the:works of a watch. On queStioning the boy, they
found that the watch was Palmer's, and that the boy
had taken it from the shop on the day in question, and
that deeming the works of the watch to be the "prettiest
part" (as he himself said), had preserved them, whilst
he melted the case. Bratt, who, however, is of an
indifferent character, was thus proved to have been
innocent of the charge for which he was committed,'and
he is now out on bail.
DEATH OF A SHIRT-MAKER PRIM DESTITUTION.-L
On Saturday Mr. Humphreys held an inquest at the
Coal Meters' Arms, Heath-street, Mile-end, on view of
the 'body of Sarah Stafford, aged 43, a single woman,
residing at No. 89 in the same street, whose death
was accelerated 13y the deprivation of the necessaries
of life. The evidence showed that the deceased,
on the death of her father, who was a farmer, at
Woodford, was left with property. Through unfor-
tunate circumstances she beoame reduced, and was at
length compelled to earn her livelihoodby shirt-making,
and the utmost she could latterly do was to earn four-
pence a' day. She received 3s. a week for her rent from
her brother, who is a licensed victualler at Woodford.
She was occasionally assisted by a young woman named
Charry, who lived in the same house that she did, and
who stated that she' had not sufficient necessaries for her
support. Mr. Robinson, surgeon to the hamlet of Mile-
end Old Town, stated that it was his opinion the
deceased's death was accelerated by the want of the
common necessaries of life. A verdict was returned to
that effect.
LAUNdII OF ANOTHER FIRST-RATE MAN-OF-WAR.—
On, Tuesday, the 13th instant, another magnificent two-
' dedker screw line-of-battle ship, of 101 guns, to be
christened the Duncan, will be added to the force of the
ROyal navy. She is expected., according to her lines, to
be the fastest and most poWerful two-decker that has yet
been built. Shortly will follow the converted 120-gun
three4leeked sailing ship Prince of Wales, of 131 guns,
'Which has been lengthened aft to make room for an
auxiliary screw propeller. She will be about a 'match
for the Duke of Wellington, having rather a bluff bow.
The next will be the Nelson, 120-gun sailing ship,
converted to a 91-gun screw ; followed by the Royal
Frederick, converting to an 86-gun screw, sister ship to
the queen, now in commission, and fitting in No. 7 dock,
at Portsmouth. Taking, then, the force of efficient ships
and those bringing forward, at Portsmouth alone we
have' 'the 'Duke of Wellington, 131, screw ; Royal:
Sovereign, 131, screw ; Prince of Wales, 131, screw ;
Victoria, 121,- screw ; Duncan, 101, screw ; Princess
Royal, 91, screw; Nelson, 91, screw ; Royal Frederick,
91; Screw ; ColosSus, "80, screw, the Mien and engines.,
of which are quite ready to be placed on board. Then
such 51 screw frigates as Imperieuse, Shannon, and
Bacchante,' beaides a host of steam sloops, gun boats,
and mortar vessels,
COUNTERFEIT' COINERS SURPRISED.-It having come 1
to the knowledge of the Manchester detective officers
that some coining operations were taking place in a cer-
talioOcality, Sergeants Shanley and Sandford went on
Friday forenoon to a house in Ebden-street, London-
road, occupied M -AM by W zones and his wife, Lydia ,
Jones, They found Mrs. Jones in the kitchen, who
said, in reply to a vestion, that her husband was out.
Sergeant Shanley went upstairs, and found Jones busily
at work with a galvanic
battery,in re
electroplatings shillings
with silver. Some, wereof process, and he
had 33 in a , basin ready for the operation. Jones
struggled to secure those in the basin, but Sandford
'ilyas called to assist, and these were secured, and three
shillings, very Well plated, were taken ,out of Jones's
hand. Sandford discovered 14shillings in a jug, and 23
Sixpences were also found. , Every kind, of apparatus was
-
at hand, petal, melting pot, Plaster of. Paris, and moulds.
'When the officers brought. Jones and the appurtenances
of his illicit trade downstairs, Mrs. Jones, was mending
the fire.. This was a dodge well knoWn to the 'detectives,
and on 'the fire being raked out, broken moulds for
shillings and half-crowns exhibited themselves. They
were taken to the police-office, and on Saturday
Jones and his wife were placed before the city magis-
trates. The above facts were given, in evidence, sand
they were remanded to Thursday, in order that the
authorities of -the Mint may be communicated with,
when they will no doubt be committed for trial,

PRESENTATION TO A CLERGYMAN,
LAST NIGHT.
Last evening a tea party, in connexion with the Pro-
testant Reformation Society, was held in the Market-
street Schools, Birkenhead, for the purpose of present-
ing a testimonial to' the Rev. George Donaldson "in
recognition of his invaluable services in the:Protestant
cause," and on the occasion of his relifiquishing the
pastorate of the Birkenhead Working Man's Church, to
assume the labours of a missionary to the Roman
Catholics at Clifden, county Galway, Ireland. About
125 persons partook of tea, and after a hymn had been

Mr. BICKERTON took the in the absence of the
Rev. IL Linton, who was detained by business in Not-
tingham. The chaixman said their pleasure that even-
ing was mingled with regret, for they were. met -to say
" good bye" to one whose services, although they had not
not been of long duration in Birkenhead, had been greatly
appreciated. The Rev. Mr. Donaldson had however
won the confidence and love not only of Protestants,
but also, he was happy to say, of many of the Roman
Catholics too. It was a great deal to say that, for it
was not easy for a man to stand upon a platfurm and
say he believed God's truth without making some
enemies; but whilst he had not compromised the truth,
he had spoken it faithfully and boldly, and yet with all
love. The Rev. Mr. Donaldsbn was ' about to leave

them, but not to leave the work, for he was, as a
minister of the true church, going to carry the. Gospel
to our Irish friends. Having referred to the great good
effected by the rev. gentleman's week-day lectures, and
his, Saturday evening class, the chairman went on to
say, it was a noble thing to see. the other day hundreds
of young men going to St. George's-hall to take.an oath
that, should a foreign foe dare to invade our country,
they would protect our Queen and Constitution. That
was a great peace movement—(applause)---a movement
not aggressive in character, but defensive. (Hear,
hear.) Now although.we had no Frenchmen invading
our shores, yet we had dire enemies on our
shores in, high places to which Roman Catholics could
not reach. •The other day;- he saw that a Roman
Catholic priest was permitted to have free access to,
soldiers at Aldershott, whilst a Protestant missionary
was_ not permitted to go near, for fear of giving offence.
to "his Eminence:" (Laughter.) He believed, how-
ever; that this fear in high places was offensive to our
Father in Heaven—(hear, Bear,)—and he highly de-
precated the tendency of the age to erase from our
Memories thoSe interpositions of Providence,—such as
the discovery, of the Gunpowder Plot,--to which so
much of our national. greatness was ,owing: He "saw
no reason why gunpowder treason should' yet be forgot."
(Applause.) The Bible told us that we We're not to
forget all God's benefits, and he thought they Were
ignoring a great_benefitewhen they, forgot to remember
the miraculous iuterpo,sitions of Providence; which so
wonderfully 'affected our national greatness. He was,
however, thankful that we had a Protestant monarch,
and asked-his audience if they, had seen " The British
Workman" of recent date ; it depicted an African who
had been sent over as an ambassador by a negro prince,
to inquire what was the source of England's greatness.
Our beloved QUeen putting a Bible into the negro's
hand said, "That is the source of EnglaUd's greatness."
(Loud applause.) That man might return to his home,
and thus the Gospel might be spread throughout Africa.
(Cheers.) The chairman concluded by calling on Mr.
Lowe to present the testimonial to the Rev. A-fr.
Donaldson. ,

Mr. LOWE was received with loud cheers,. He said:—
Reverend Sir,. Christian Brethren We are met on this
occasion for the performance of a work that is a pleasure
to all of us, yet 'tis mingled with pain. We, as work-
ing men and friends, are glad to have thiS opportunity
to show our appreciation of the invaluable services ren-
dered to the Protestant cause, by the untiring zeal,. the
Powerful energy, the unanswerable arguments; and
Christian character of the -Rev. Geoige - Donaldson.
(Applause.) Nearly two year& haVe now elapsed since
he came to labour amongst us in the cause of truth
ag,ainsterror;--helding forth the oracles of God against
the idolatries and .superstitions of Rome. (Applause.)
And those of us Who have 'attended the Saturday even-
ing controversial das, conducted by him, look back
with pleasure to those meetings, where weapons were put
into our hands that are. mighty, through God. (Cheers.)
The dearest friends on earth must part ; and in the
order of unerring Providence, our much respected and
beloved friend, and we ourselves, are called upon to
part. He goes to labour in the Irish Church Missions.
May Jesus, the Saviour, the only Head of the Church,
go with him. Reverend sir, we the working men who
have attended your meetings, humbly beg your accept-
ance of this purse as a small token of our love and
esteem for you; and we humbly pray that the blessings
of God may attend you in all your undertakings—may
He direct your path, and make you a faithful minister
of the Gospel of Christ, so that when you are about to
lay aside your armour, you may be enabled to say—" I
have fought the good fight." May the Lord grant that
if we no more meet on earth, we may meet in heaven.

Mr. DONALDSON said he felt deeply grateful for the
kind expression of regard with which they had just ad-
dressed him, and for the kind token of their affection
which he had.had the honour of receiving from them.
He need not tell them that the regret at parting was
mutual. They,felt, he believed, regret—a kind regret
—in parting with him ; and he could truly say that he
felt a deep regret in parting with his friends in Birken-
head. (Hear, hear.) He had done his best to remain
amongst them ; Sand he must also say, that the Rev.
Andrew Knox, his great friend, had done his utmost to
I retain him as curate in his parish. However, it had
pleased God in the order of His providence that he
should go to another sphere of labour ; but he trusted
that he should not lose interest in their prayers and that,
though they might be absent in body, they should often
meet at the footstool of Divine Grace imploring God's
blessing on each Other. (Applause.) Some notice
had been taken of his humble services during the time
he had been amongst them. That time had been com-
paratively short, and he had always stood at 'a dis-
advantage, inasmuch as he had had to keep his college
course at the same time that he was ""endeavouring to
office
discharge his as a missionary amongst them. ile
could not therefore devote that energy, and that time,
and that zeal in the cause of Protestant advocacy which
he wished to do ; but their kindness to him at all times
had been great, and he was thankful to say now that
they were parting that he had never had a personal dis-
Tute with any person in Birkenhead. (Hear, hear.)
his to him was a cause of great gratitude, and it
would be, remembered by him as a proof that they,
were kind enough to appreciate his labours amongst
them. Some reference had been made to his
going to - Ireland to labour among the Roman
Catholics ; and it might not be uninteresting to them to
hear something of what he witnessed when lately'there.
The rev. gentleman gave a flattering account of the pro-
gress of the missionary work among the Roman Catholics-
in Ireland, and said that they ought to feel grateful to-
hear that God was doing so much for their sister land. In-
cpclusion, he expressed a hope t. they would live to
see each other again upon earth, and that he should-
live to address them again in Birkenhead; if not, he
trusted that there was not one in that meeting who bore
the name of Protestant, who would not endeavour, by
God's grace, to have that religion at heart, and who
would not remember that the outward privileges would
fail them unless they had heartfelt religion spread
abroad in their hearts. He hoped -God would bless
them all, and give 'them that religion, for his name and
mercy's sake. (Applause.)
Mr. PAItSONAGE also addressed the meeting, and a
vote of thanks to the chairman having been cordially
passed, a hymn was sung, and the proceedings con-
cluded by the Rev. George Donaldson pronouncing
the benediction.

RIFLE Conrs.—The question has been repeatedly
asked, how many rifles have been enrolled ? From an
1 official source we can state that the number was' 40,500.
1 on the 19th November.—Court Journal.

WATER' COMMITTEE.

Mr. T. L. Hodson presided at the weekly meeting of
this committee yesterday ; and the other gentlemen
present 'were—Messrs. Farnworth, C. Turner, Rae,
.13eloe, Vernon, Earle-, ,Estill, Crellin, Woodruff, Jeffery,
and the Mayor, T. D. Anderson, Esq.
WATER AND HEALTH COMMITTEES AND THE VOLUNTEER
MOVEMENT.
His Worship the MAY,..)a said—lt- having
.been sug-
gested to me by several gentlemen of influence in the
town, that a. very effective 'force--a Volunteer Corps—
might be raised out of the men employed by the Water
Committee and by the Health Committee; I, with the
sanction of the chairmen orthe Water Committee and
the Health .Committee,. thought it my duty to ask the
Borough Engineer and the Water Engineer, to Make a
report as to some particular points, to guide not only
the committees,' but also the Council, in coming to some
conclusion on the matter; and perhaps you will allow
their report to be read,. whiCh will put you in possession
of the particular points.
The TOWN-CLERK then read the following reports :
FlLTgßS.—Nothing out of the ordinary course has
transpired here beyondilfe—branary cleaning and sand
washing. I have found it necessary to increase the sand
washing accommodation,--as recently the washed sand
has accumulated faster than.heretofore.:

The only works remaining to be done at White Cop-
pice Gauge Basin are the making up of the side of the
embankment, of the goit through which the temporary
supply to Cocker's was given' and painting the iron and
wood work. These were to be commenced this morning:
At. Roddlesworth ,a short length of the embankment
over the last made up portion, having sunk slightly,
being raised to the proper level, nothing else is in hand.
The rainfall for the week ending Saturday, the 3rd
instant, was 0-.68 inch. _ ___ •
The rainfall for November was

Making for eleven months of present year 4l 44
Corresponding period last year 37 26
• Increase 4 18
The depths of water, in the several undeinoted
reservoirs were, at the above date, as per table :
Dec. 3. Nov. 26. Rise. Fall.
ft. in. ft. in. ft. in. ft. in..
Roddlesworth .. ~. 10 11 ... 9 4 ... 0 0 ... 1 7
Rake 9 8 ... 12 4 . . 2 8 ... 0 0

Anglezark l2 11 ... 12 11i ... 0. ... 0 0
Rivington
Prescot (No. 1) 0 3 ... 0 114 . . 0 71 ... 0 0
Prescot (No. 2) 1I I ~ 9 IN 0 0 1 2a
The quantities of water drawn off durini, the week
ending the 3rd instant, and left in store 'at the end of
the same, have been as below :

Dec. 3. Nov. 26. Increase. Decrease.
Roddlesworth 59,831,298 64,713,925 4,882,627
Rake
Anglezark
Rivington 1,338,382,689 1,391,331,210 '52,948,52:

1,867,533,397 1,917,977,663 7,386,882 57,831,148
1,867,533,397 " 7,386,882

50,444,266 50,444,266
Off for Upper Rivington... 9,500,000 9,540,000

Decre4se... 40,914,266 40,944,266
On the pipe line nothing out of the ordinary course
has transpired. All is in good .condition.—l ani, sir,
yours faithfully, . Trios: DUNCAN.
!in. Shuttleworth, Eq., Town-clerk.

Mr. DUNCAN. also-reported that the quantity of water
received from Rivington during the week ending 3rd
December, 1859, was :
Gals. Gals.
Into Kensington ' 26,750,215
'lnto Audley-street
Into Park-hill.
14,987,526
Quantity of water pumped from the wells :
At 13tx)tle
At Green.lane 21,405,138
At Water-street 3,506,100
At Windsor 7,005,750
38,880,088
Quantity of water in store week ending
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26th November, 1859
Ditto 3rd December, 1859

8,110,739
8,830,469
-- 719,730

Washing out mains, sewers, &c

31,147,884
1,500,000

• 79,647,884
Delivered ht Bootle unmixed 2,500,000. .
Ditto mixed , 77,147,831 ,
79,647,884
Proportion of Rivington to'well water, 11 to 9.
VOLUNTEER ENGINEERS, SAPPERS AND MINERS CORPS.
TO THE WORSHIPFUL, THE MAYOE OF LIVERPOOL, THOMAS
DARNLEY ANDIARSON, ESQ. •
We, the undersignectofficers and men, in. the -service-of the
Health and-Water Committees, are desirous of being formed
into a volunteer corps of engineers and sappers and miners,
under the auspices of the Town Council, in aid of the present
movement for the defence of our country..

We,, therefore, ask you to bring the subject before the
Council, in older to obtain their sanction for our enrolment,
and also their kind assistance towards our equipment.We venture to assure you that, if, our request be complied
with, the regular performance of our duties ehall not in any
way be interfered with, and that we will do all in our power
to preserve obedienee to the authorities.

TO THE WORSHIPFUL THF. MAYOR OF LIVERPOOL, THOMAS D.
ANDERSON, ESQ.
Sin,—ln accordance with_your _Worship's expressed desire,
that we should obtain some details as to the necessity for, and
the requirements of the suggested Volunteer Engineer and
Sapper and Miner Corps, we applied to'Major.Greig, who,
with ready,,aindness, obtained for us from. Major Edwards the
following mfor4nation

A corp-s, such as that proposed, is one of the chief desiderata
of the volunteer movement.

The men belonging to the Corporation, artisans, paviers,
navigators, and miners, are already educated in all the opera-
tions requiring to be performed. They require only to be
drilled and taught Vie rifle practice. Thescoperations Consist
of digging trenches, mining, throwing up breast works-:of
earth, or of sand bags, or of faseines and g-abions, forming
rifle pit's, and trous de coups, forming roads and railways, and
also breaking, up and destroying roads, pulling down buildings,
and clearing away obstructions, and assisting and covering the
artillery. ;
The 'corps mast be officered' by engineers ; and the civil en-
gineering staff, in the employment of the Corporation, require
only some instruction in military field works to render them
efficient officers. In laying out lines and topographical survey-
ing, and carrying earthworks, and mining operations, they are
already proficient.
The equipments of a sapper and miner consist of a shovel,
pickaxe, and 'spade, or a saw and hatchet carried in a leather
case, and a short carbine, with sword bayonet, slung over the
shoulder.
The cost of dress and ,eqtlipment, with the exception of the
carbine, is estimated at £3 10s. per man. It is understood V.:at
Government at the outset will supply 75 per cent. of the arms,
and eventually the whole.
Major Edwards advises that the corps should be divided into
companies of 100; each corbpany to have' a captain, second
captain, and three lieutenants,-all 'engineers.
The number of .men who have sent in their names as
volunteers is upwards of 400, which will give four, companies.
The equipment of these will cost £l,4oo.—We have the honour
to be your worship's most obedient servants, '
JAS. NENTLANDS.
Liverpool, Nov. 26, 1859. THOS. DUNCAN.
The,MAYoR said, the town was of opinion that the
Corporation might do something. -He• believed they
had no power to grant money for the formation of the
volunteer corps; but he brought the iluestion before the
-Rifle. Brigade Association, and he believed they were
willing to bear the expense. He did not suppose the
Council or the committees would feel justified mdoing
anything, if by giving their sanction to the-men to enrol
themselves as: volunteer corps, would interfere with their
services to the Corporation; but he believed it mas the
opinion of the engineers that such a result need not be
expected. The men under the two committees were
particularly adapted for mining•purposes; and he thought
it his duty to bring the matter before the 'committees,
and if they thought it necessary, they might refer the
matter to the Council. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. FARNWORTII did not think they were in a position
to consider the question at the present meeting. •
Mr. 'VERNON thought they were morally bound to do
what was asked 'of them ; and if they could help forward
this necessary and very popular movement,. he was sure
every member of the committee would be willing to
do so.
Mr. JEFFERY quite agreed with 'Mr. Farnworth that
the matter should stand over for the present ; and sug-
gested that it be referred to the Works Committee,
with instructions that they should confer with the
Health Committee.
The MAYOR thought, that would be the better plan
and .the matter was accordingly referred to the works"
sub-Committee.
COMPOSITION FOR WATER RENTS. •
The sub-committee appointed.to consider this subject
reported that they liad passed a motion to the'effect that
the resolution of the sth of October last be rescinded,
as -it included tenements paying a rate not exceeding.ss.
a week;. or £l3 a year.
Mi. FARN WORTH; in moving the confirmation of the
resolution, said they "carefully considered the matter ;
and they found that in no other towns was so .large a
discount alloWed as in Liverpool, and that the rentals
upon which the discounts were made were not so high
elsewhere as in this town.
Mr: BELOE stated that he had considered the matter
from an impartial point of view, and he felt justified in
moving the resolution which had been referred, to.. It
was an experiment, and if desirable it might be rescinded
at the end of twelve months.
Mr. WOODRUFF complained that he had received no

notice that such a serious matter was 'to be considered.
He objected to the rate being fixed so low as £l3. 'ln
.the first place, he thought it would be a bad bargain for
:the committee themselves, because they would not col-
lect 75 per cent. of the rent, and the owners would not
be the collectors unless the committee paid them for it.
Mr. JEFFRY said it was stated by the:deputation,
who waited on tiie committee, with reference to this
subject, that many of the houies ranging between £l3
and £2O a-year, were occupied by two or three or more
families. He should like to ask the gentlemen of the
'sub-committee whether they had any evidence before
them on the question ; and that would lead to a second
question, that of having a distinct supply for each family,
and for each fantily to pay for such supply. That would
involve a risk of bad debts, and a great increase of the
tenantry from whom they would have to collect the rents
for water. •

Mr. GRELLIN thought Mr. Jeffery must be aware
that the owners, of property did nql let the houses them-
selves ; but a tenant might sub-let his house, and that
tenant was responsible to the landlord for the whole
rent.

_
Mr. BELOE wished to ask whether the Water Com-:'
mittee were bound to supply a lodger with a Separate
supply of water ?

The TOWN-CLERK—Not unless it is an entirely
separate occupation. _ • _ _

Mr.. BELoi was of opinion that that answer.would
naaatliir. ieffe.ry:4..question
The resolution of the sub-committee was then con-
firmed.
_ When the committee proceeded with the financial
business, the reporters were requested to withdraw.