The Express.
London, England, 1852-11-27 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT

THE

geadesnaa would make his finaaeial statement—whether hod
would introduce it on Monday, or pelages* it till the soh
lowing Friday seeming /
The CHANCELLOR of the 4.I[CREIWAS. said. •
ems the debate finished that night, he WWI& Moafierg,
was engaged for business of seas interest to the braes j hut
he had beets told that it was ant clear that the debate wadi
fiaiah that night. (Cries of "Oh, oh.") He blmeelflispai
that it would conclude. TOG bon. member ke Beall
meta bad • mullion of • personal chereeter he
Monday, aad probably that flay week would, w
en the whole, be the most convenient day for making the flaw-
Gist statement. He had ao doubt that if the present dis-
cussion concluded before he should be able to introduce
it then.
Mr. RICARDO said he wished to ask a gustiest of the
Chancellor of the Earhequr with regard to tbe adjourned
debate. He found from the vow, which he had *Maimed
awe he came into the house, • resolution moved by the
noble lord the member fur Tiverton as an amendment to
that of the bon. member for Wolverhampton. These very
important words, which, aa they were told on the previous
day, the right boa. gentleman the member for Carlisle in-
verted, were left out of the votes delivered to the house that
morning : " That this policy, prudently maintained and
firmly eztended, will, aphout inflicting injury on any Im-
portant interest," Ike. He wished to know whether that
resolution was the one whisk the goverament adopted in
abandoning the amendment of which they gave notice.
The CHANCELLOR of the BILCIIEQUI ER said he did
not find, from the paper in his head, that the words quoted
were omitted.
Mr. RICARDO—This asseniog they were.
The CHANCELLOR of the EILCHEQUER--Well, of
roam we are going to decide on the motion which is on
the table of the house.

HOUSE OF LORDS.—FamaT, Nov. 26.
no LORD CimaClMAoe to* bit mat at Ivo edoek.
THE NORTH AYRIIOAN FISHIMIRS.
Lard WILL RNCLIFFII wield to adt the edit earl to
Mims Ur Mum wbothor As old =Mei 1
aillasp-milik 101 l bass tor elm litre pot paleAsktaw
now
maws it boooght Is a atasiatlak Witt nowt* Os EOM* as
doe Norsk Amodosa dateless soy
ist; sad V
ettoirrbo isteadloi to lay Vie paws esauseed with Hue
Iblassolloas beton militarist; or whether be would bare
diltattea le pelisse ante papers, oa • motto ban
orb tar theia
no Earl of EALMESBURT—T to mils boss IN
fie way exaggerated the importance of the tendon te nbllh
Ifs bat referred. it is one which, during the Ira es
likeetie, has certainly occupied her Majesty'a govemeleMill
me such es it deserves. The noble baron has alluded to •
Mkt written by the late Mr Webster, Secretary of State
et the United States, comp:aiming of the conduct of her
Neuary'seoverameat, when they issued orders foe SSW
description of Towle, and a greater number of Mena*
protect the North American fisheries. The &ebbe him
bee attempted to account for that later. and Ms suppeeed
that it originated perhaps trom orders heti,g bees glum
by her Majesty's government in such terms as wen sot
pleasing to Me United States; or from another reaps,
namely, Mr. Webster haying supposed that the British
government gave ens t new eonstructioa to the treaty of
1818. Now, I Can uudertake to answer for her Majesty's
government, that neither did the oaken in her Majesty's
colonies, nor is the United 8 ttttt of America, use my len-
gume which ea not entirely fitting to employ on such cc-
casions ; and I eau add also, that h r Majesty's government
gave no sew conotraction to the trvaty—th,y made no new
clam whatever on the Americas government—they asserted
uo new claim themselves—and they added nothing to the
material force already existing on that station. It was
rather a police reguiation than anything else—a new end
1110“ useful vem,l being employed, and in greater numbers
than More The number of canoes was even diminished,
and there was nothing to eacite the jealousy of the Ameri-
can government. I .lo not know what gave rise to that
letter; but the noble lord who his just sat down having
berm ia that country, is well aequaisted with its customs,
and knees that the periods occurrence of resale shill;
take place there may account for the eorrespondelhes trbidi
Ito lies alluded to, and which at another time selpbtaab
bays happened. I say, therefore, that her Majesty% gen
moment are not to Plame, either on this side of the
Atlantic or on the other. As to giving amain to the Amen-
CIS VI/MUM at, I CM oily say that es soon as this chants
in the navel arrangeoteuts was made, I gave notice to the
Americas *overeaten( that such a change was about to take
place; and I did so, not because I was obliged to do so, bet
from the diplomatic relations beltways the two countries,
and frees the courtesy which I felt to be dm from one to the
other. (Meat, hear.) If my one thinks that I ought to
have done en before, or that these new arrangements should
have been put elf until the American government had re-
ceived longer notice, I thick it would not have been a ems-
'linnet to have supposed that the American government
ware privy to the seta of aggression on our shore which
some of the American subjects had long been accustomed
to exerei4r. As to the present state of the neg..tiations
which this leents have been the cause of producing
between the two countriee, I must tell your lordships that
they are is such a state as to oblige me to refine the noble
lord his request that I should lay any of the papers on the
table. Those negotiations had but just began. Mr. Web-
Met, before his death, had earnestly entered into oar pro.
posal to conduct the negotiations on a large and wide field,
which would inelude all disputed questions, not only as te
fisheries but as to the trade of Canada and our other cola
Ries. Mr. Webster, from the moment be wrote the letter
which has been refereed to, acted is the greatest spirit of
anneiliatios, mad declared to Mr. Crampton before his death
that it was hie moo salons de-ire that oar trade should be
established es a apse free basis, and that all possible muses
of dispute between, thees two groat nations should be re-
moved. (Hass, hear.) For many mums we mut re-
gret the death of that great statesman ; bat be dim.
at • mown when his death is peculiarly to be
osprottod by this country, bases, it has temporarily later-
rased the aegelliations which had berm between the moo.
rims sad • erosive@ ; sad I have had ee talk,
la of eers sweetener having bees appointed. Prom
rootioast Mason we have received the seam amasses of
psi
ME. sad ostomeno of themeet amorous desire that
be should sesskd se so narrow greyed; but
es trbetatiot possible bola (Hear, hear.) We have
boos on la the sues "kit by Commodore Peery, who was
seat by the bomb= rimeramient to watch over the in-
terests of the Alatoloot Marmon asereisier their rights
mud oar sham Ia has, from the American roverimeeent
slues that Iret letter, width appears to bete been written
I. a moment of eacitement„ arising wisps from Mr. Web.
Noes serums under the Ware with ',Mob he was se los t
adlisted ; with the exeeptisa af that sae letter, not • word
has hoes written by any ego esemselled With the govern-
meat of the United States whit b don sot give as the moat
sanguine hope that Bare aopoolstion soy shortly be
brought to a coaclusion ; arid theed pootiblo moms for
dispute between the two countries would entirely mar.
Whoa that period shall arrive, it will be satisfeetory to me
to lay, as sees as possible, as the table the rayon whisk the
noble lord eau shed foe. (Hear, beer.)
Their beedelups thea adjutant at half-pea 6 Vika.

Mr. RICAHDO—Do we understand that the right bon.
pt ea t lem au bee adopted this resolution as it stands, in lieu
of the amendment of which he gave notice ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—I did not
say, I had adopted any resolution. I mid, I should with-
draw my resoluuou in deference to what I considered the
p,evaleut &ding of the hosier, aad give the preference to
the amendment of the noble lord the member fur Tiverton;
and the only amendment of the noble lord the member for
Tiverton, with which I am acquainted. is the one whisk is
on the table of the house. (Ministerial cheers.)
Mr. RICARDO again role, but was met with aim of
" Withdraw," amidst which ha sat down.

NEW NATIONAL OALLRRY.
AN HON. iiBllll3ll WWltd to know whether it wu
t►e intention of the government to puree the erection of
a new National Gallery on the site purehased by the Royal
Commissioners?

The CIIANCELLOR of this EXCHEQUER said the
report of the Royal COollaissina had bee. laid ea the table
of the bAise, and would coos be in every hon. naember's
hand. When the house were ealleiestly acquainted with
the contents of that document, h• should call their atten-
tion to its recommendations. He would then propose a
vote to parliament, but it would not be confined to the ape.
side object to which the hoe. 'militates referred.

HOUSE OF COHMONS.—FILIDAY. Nov. 26.
TM Ma'am Imit to Mai• at 4 Vika.
NEW WRITS.

New write wen ordered to be issued kr the fellowistr
places The Borough of Shiesdos. Is Ile nem of Maier
Ceeldrld. deceased ; Bevy St. Massada, Is the nos of
Vice-Chaseellor Stuart; the City of Durham, is the ram
of Mr. Orsieser, deceased; the Bernet of Oldham, I.
the roses of Mr. Dims" deceased ; the City of Peter-
borough. la dm MOM of Mr. Wawa. deceased.
PUBLIC BUSINESS.__

PETtT:ONB PRESENTED.
CARIB or EDWARD MOILD.AT.—PeRtiORII from to
Moroni i• favour or interference so behalf of Edward
Murray won Narrated by Mr. T. DOsoodso Rad Lord D.
ervaar._

Naw hose Mtgs.—By Sir J. V. SHELLEY, ham W.
wafts sat echoes, sauna liarth that they had invented a
NSW leer in, whisk would reader wheat 0.4 M
Leriljahio he.. whet
saitrara gave ratios tha W
hew tea ea a.
the early
i
ate psalm
all=aor Nv smates.—By Mr. F. M HINZ 11,
lgasa et Liverpool, praying fee as ins...etiesi
(Lawiliter.)
Measemea Onairr.-117 Col. GILPIN, ham Pertealtall,
itiMmirkin, prelim for the withdrawal of the Mayaooth
111111,M111n, aad for aMU I. remit the intimidation of
sisseen ta Inked.
flus D.T11111.-157 Mr. BRIGHT, from the Cowmen's'
Aasestatien of Mariehester, preying Ise the removal of this
prelaMbre duties is Ilk, sad stamp that the silk trade
was Wand Imam duties, is cassequenee MIMI, matiag
as hapelekta that the British amaallesteves of silk were
bad! ftrolaa.
Oa the Mimi that the been% at its Meg. dwelt alljean
M Meade,.
Lord D. trrtr ART said be mold take that oppertmity of
imairiag of the noble lord at the heed al the Beard a
Works, 1, some other masher of the gensmant, who.
Ster the attention of the goveramat had lona ailed te
ths delbelin arraimemate for admitting the pales M view
W Cathedral of St Paul's ?
Mr. GLYN said be wished to ear one word oft this sab•
Oreat imeavesimes had hem esessiowsd to the ems-
mme of Leda.from Moire the dim fee the koalas of
SAM find is the very heart of the Oki, sad be hoped
that I. future dm ebleotien s be obviated.
Sir DE L. EVANS tbsoght that, it the govermasat
wished the pahMe to ban ma it of MINE. the
tallied*, they shosld use then Thus.. with the bus
mid Okapis to 11111110 prepor 111111,11,10•11.
No 1•111Ple smagives to Lmd D. Staart's MeefMn

TINE LETT EICC • RIMEILS' CEEIIBIY BOXES.
Mr. T. BUNCOMBE wished to mit the hewn, to the
Tromery a question, of which he pm him aides es the
=&ay, sanely, whether tbe rairiga,
Work& that the IsSemersises of the
metropolis should set receive say Oheisimes beam Mb
year, .04 whether is that ease thersees to melee Easy
eempemstiso for the Mee et them. The fish ef the ease,
be believed, were those. • sheet time see tbs Pmeasseese-
Gemmel homed a gess* Mike that the lealemanlims of the
satin Weeds. shembil missies so smelmilise at Cheisimes.
dYaea rat thee the helm mud* ort he.ew& bad pe-
Mimed MBestmesiso.Oesseal, *the the great lem
oesedemsd to dim —.my their nth, bee** the Aril&
saes hoses esseisseed above eme-thied of tbeir siftetes, sod
stem they awes* the sewver le was elm* sessidered a
catist thole ~who. Is assidaraties of thed, the
Ommal sold be meal set *hese Me eider as
=erthrekraletteemesesse ef the meteepells The samelsy
them mid that they might she be es-
espied Sem the "perm* of the seder :..d the whose
our that the PestamiterMemsral would enforce the ..der
Ms lettereernees ?thoseebest the Usimid Lissisos.
..*O. ratsleet SIIIIIIMS6 oppiered is the
sad the piebald* mow .relied to the r
de a .arm as the sew let* INTIM N.., be
woo skim ef the Wass or-
ris% m fiesaltrilesse of Om
wwM .to
the
irrelerinLTo4l=lll9Zl ••• ••spzers ad
the Tesaimelm-Osseral to whet the or 110.
hales by the hese 'WWII of the eielles= Wee
al =Wafted $lO Seeihaled sea mums
as g
STr7V. BisW.ET the YAW su melt met to
be depends*. lb* imammeellsm.
MU
mr. a. zoom irrom •pT•• &
a Valles t. the
Crlowelho M the Isidssitess of impost tithe essdelma
of duty es the ea* of besse-made spirits is bead. It
would be la the esseftedes of the hems that is the moles
ef ISM he Mr. sessessisi ha wits' a reselmies
to
the West that the Dish Medan wen treated
the
preesst Ism, a* thee be Mime se he holt litt
et the menet Clemseese of the Isehmess
whimmeem, that fiedinift, the Irlelk Beam me-
=Med is dm same pull* as they teemq amd be whited
to haw where the wit boa. emetheses most tee.
Ire.. dear&
The CILLOS EXCIBIBIEM add be was
me Ms Error rrl hal *NM was met Oh to pme Mee to
miske samansissties with regard to imeaded rani..
Mess of May es the me of s Seemisi stemememt. The hoe.
modsmerireeld
deistsees hem as epos**, esperiag
Ws Mew 111
Mb APT BOACEIIIO FINANCIAL STATEMENT.
Lel J. BIIMMILL shied M *sr west the debt boa.

SATURDAY EVEN6TG, NOVEMBER 27, 1852.

11;g8ht to chide Me liseaselves j and he
te thy, bowie boil mlnd on
iste;Os
to the donna, that the t
rilldelegate the deeisiat of quistioes if .Itie
eenstitmesies. There might have been omensos whim
wdoiseers had done so, but it was geteraliy in warm whine
lite question had been closed ; but, if legieledso wee M
take place from year to year on that principle, he mei
that it wass, least a new one, and, though be gave se
Moe as to Its influenes on public political morality, Yet
could not see such a principle laid dews without series.
alarm. (Hear, hear.) He should, therefore, prefer the
motion of the hon. member for Wolverhampton, and so fas
as those words which had been so much the sulijrct of de.
hew—namely, that the measure of 1816 sere " wise, jest,
and benelcial"—were eoneerned, it was impossible that be
(Mr. Herbert) tumid refuse a hearty assent to the fact that
that measure was " wise, just, and beneficial." He appro.
headed that the government could hardly nectar. that they,
who were about to introduce and carry out measures
founded on the principles of that measure, could say other-
wise than that it was wise, ju,t, and beneficial. But he
must say that it was impolitic to put those words in a recto.
lotion the object of which was to pledge the largest pow
Bible number to the principles of free trade, and to
alloy agitation and put an end to some topics a
the subject of protection which were still entertained.
The hoe. seediness who were responsible for the words
objected to in three resolutions disclaimed the charge that
they had been introdeeed for the purpose of giving offence.
Bat the question was, did they, as they stood, bear that ap•
psaraneeT Frankly, be (Mr. S. Herbert) must say that
they did. (Cheer.) And in thew matters generosity was
the best !volley. (Cteers.) The more they conducted their
warfare in that house according to the established rules, the
pleasanter would their campaigns be. (Cheers.) For, of
mares, if it was the system never to give quarter, hey
never could aspect anyone to yield. The House of Catt-
iest@ was n propaganda—each man summoning others to
ease round to his opinions ; and, in proportion to the eorn-
of a victory, ought the generosity to be. (Hear,=lsm ) When putlemen were willing to renoance a heresy,
the MO ef the renunciation ought not to be made °wadi-
OW me pesesal humiliation. (Cheers.) A witty tton-
temipelethloas writer had observed that all sects in this
egeolep mode proselytes, except the Jewish; and in
oplenellee it that, the• writer said " How could you
tegreet proselytes to a religion which commences with a
a operation t" (Great laughter.) In the same way, is
Me nose of Commoas, when gentlemen oorfeseed a change
of opinion, they must not be pu• in the pillory, and pelted
with .• Hansard." (Cheers and laughter.) But, taking the
resolution of the hon. and learned gentleman (Mr. Villiers)
and the amendment of the noble viscount as documents
declaring what it was the desire of the majority of the
house to have put on record, he coofessed that he thought
that of the noble viscount was, on the whole, the strongest
of the two. (Here the right hon. gentleman compared the
two propositions verbally.) As to precluding the ooncessiou
of what was called compensation, he held very distinct
views. The repeal of the corn' laws, he bad from the Bret
held, was per., an act of justice. (Cheers.) The repeal
of the sun laws was a restitution to the country of that
which the landed Interest—and he spoke as including him-
self—had unfairly enjoyed. (Cheers.) Ile said, therefore,
distinctly that there was no just claim to compensation ;
sad that the substitution of protection by some Indirect
means would be as inequality and an inequity which would
be hateful to the people and which consequently could not
last. (Cheers.) The right hon. gentleman the Secretary
for the Colonies had made a singular objection to the use
of the word "just" in the resolution first proposed—for, said
hi. how Can I say that was just which ruined the West
Indian interest? But the words of the motion only applied
to the act of 1846, which did not touch the sugar laws.
Sir J. PAKINO TON—I did not erase merely on the
pored Meager. I spoke generally. (Hoer)
Mr. S. HERBERT was mistaken thou. But he had ob-
served a great difference between the government speeches
on Tuesday night and the government speeches on the
previous (Thunday) night. On Tuesday right hon. gen-
tleman were all for free trade ; but on Thursday they went
into details ; and it would appear as if Tuesday, having
been given up to the puhlie, Thursday had been devoted
to reconciling the party. (Laughter.) An argument much
lased for the preference of the original resolution to the
noble viscount's amsadmeat was that the original resolu-
tion alone contained a vindication of the memory of Sir
Robert Peel. He (Mr. Herbert) confesseed that bethought
the acknowledgment in the one ease was in 'obstacles quits
as much as in the other. Bet he thought the memory of Sir
R. Peel stood on a pedestal which no resoltatien of that house
could render firmer or broader. (Loud cheer.) He had
known Sir R. Peel ; and hod admired him, he might say,
all his life. He had admired him as a musician—he had
followed him as a leader—and he had loved him as a man.
Acid he had sat beside him at a critical time on those (the
Tenney) benches. He (Sir R. Peel) was a man, let them
elmumher, ensireptible to as extreme degree; pure, and
joetly proud of the purity of his motives; and jealous of his
Wiese. Ana he (Mr. Herbert) had sat beside Sir It. Peel
Oa time when he was being attacked In the foulest lan-
progo—(loud cheers)—and when he was accused of the
sent crimes. (Load cheers) But Sir Robert Peel was
••••• of • nature. (Cheer.) He would
low Kite humiliation of an adversary; and in
Oh seen bed he Men in that house to guide It, he would
have remember d that the humiliation, levelled at a party,
was to be inflicted not merely upon icies who had so un-
justly and se malisseatly assailed him, hut on gentlemen
when eirsoner he regarded, and whose fame be would
have heM dear. (Cheers.) The same of the gentlemen
opposite (en the side) were not to he eanfousded
with the men ego bed ealumniated Mr Robert Pod. To
the very last a liege piepertise et the walled protectionist
party adhered then oli leadon sail even meted with him on
the question on whisk In left ellen (Rear, bear.) The
memory of Sir Robert Peel required, however, no vindica-
tion from that home • it was embalmed In the minds and
hearts of a grateful People. And if a retribeties wen
wasted, it should be borne In mind that not words, but
deeds, humiliated. And if anybody wanted tome a humi-
liation—which, God knew, was at all times a painful sight
—they had but to look at the aspect of the men who now
sat ea the Treasury bench. (Loud sheen.) In estimating
what had bees the services of Sir Robert Peel to his coun-
try, and is framing an aakaownipeent of th• benefits of
his policy suet wet merles& lie svii he bad averted.
Bat der the at KS where wield they-4M oseatry
se boss lon ISO t The Condom. wee in a
diesels had dialsished the iseeforta
car own peeple—wd what might have been the social
and obeldelb It the
the
shield hew had
to say, es the Ream did. dot the pension oil net the
pO, had peados' then miellartuces ? (Lai shesen)
Why they wall haw hod a bowled and swamisg redone
of parliament esseestleg to esosale. eury little sheet or
salvereal sidles.* ; mg-wee that a mak with whiah_gen.
demo omega weld bare ben wommed (ZOO
asses.) The right ben gentleman sensholed by maybe
Om be mould vets he Lied es mondoest. and
that he litsertbet the lione Oaf bed Wwould thaw
the Kea et stoopting la way ahem sr Act may
Cirto
ery. we sods* easookes to any aloes or interest
lint
.H. DRUMMOND thighs the weeds NOOK by
Ms has. sad leased pagemea (Mr. Villiers) were the
=weds. gimes free WM opposition.) Ili* party
(Mr. Dminessmirs) side woad one bis advise, they
wield accent that sedan and en solos their delosim
MINT. He (sell net steeessil the repos* of Wont-
ehosaoy, see die shoos of allowing an error • sad, as re-
the esamolmes it that Woe, he hardly wished
!:arli.:l Hamer was at the logos of the sea ; he was
5515 it was heavy enough is sink. Moot laughter.)
Mr. WUNTZ said be we in the dillselt pentium of net
apronsg of either of the resolution,. He was ow et the
tours opossum of the morn-laws, but he was lisle pee.
to rat lie repeallawe was
rtinltialeO tae. th t
ll Of 'Till. bet a/ the coo
a tar greater olin sold
have been dine to a great many in Ws country Kee bed an
voices in making the taw. He had heard dunes this debate
some einumbeary remarks *Ai* led hum is think that
bee. mann on both aides et the here were esseediagly
dot to memory. It apposed Is him doe him gollemen
hope Mw wee ever any prosperity le this lagdso beide.
He wee guile toady to admit that the prod Mee of the
working dome wee eamedlagly (00011. and IMO some pro.
gram bed boss made In the lest 12 asathe le dm peels, of
the emeases; but the woo* of do peewee doe was not
to be emorwed wide thriet wilea provialoss, with
the essajpelon of sometime lower them at pressen and
were Ii per mon sr New, Oen we no one
mace aaziese then be wee that tree trade la emu Weald
cooties'. Re Owen it woe a proper mad wise measure,
but he believed Kit the Feat same ei the pretty was
owng to the peel Wait of obi the had lelen
With Os IllOpigisa of them west, he had eo 2.ziert
either of the ruelloisee ; bet be throbs the WV'
nodes writhe hest, and it should have his twig
The Marquis of GRANBY agreed with the=
member who had just sat down that it was imps-
ellen dr him wee with *Wm of the resolutions,
bet be out disagree with hint so fee that he was
enelde te vets he Weber of them. He Gould sot ogre,
dog the paseped. of the country was as great sow ae,t
bad been tole Merest and a wiser system. In the
emend Keen adolging the pomposity, he thought it was
So he eilesnalled Mt ether reuse the recent
eel oNsiled eiafpmilWa. The reason was that, woo&
leg that the peepetley was Owing to tweet legilanon
thee logidadee was use stamped with rentk eg new
sited liniefidOS. For time two be bend le
Lt is tor Km to eenaent to dater of the resin.
Mr. FITZROY wished S. explain, la •he words, the
lime he iatemiledto punts, as an lidependeet samba/ a
, the hoses. Uetteey their resales wee age of.=
&Moony ;,fee all whiled ttake a mono that
at mop be to his ofteeleace sad the
to these IbisatWer
_pertyggeseletiese wide b
to sway omm. Ter himealf. be deseld be eettOare
the en of the wide Bed, assffording to theelar
eiple they woe all &also te advocate, all that
whisk they bad aay right to soot fee it lan say=
I Sea of Ofe beam; hen endannesautly, be was sot Awed
to give his vete as upee the Metros' mono
earK
the resolution. (Roa, Marl Heventure
d mist .
neatly to retreat the beeserable gentlemen (Kr. Villiers)
to withdraw his ressiolley nod le pt that whin wad
tandem least with the tomeiedo of MuM volisszlhe
I pried* It was their ammo fteel nmbetele.
sal
Otherwise, wise the shoseeleesse be had
rom imbeds to Ibe didegabhed tw whoop elle.
I they all now append, be should gine his vote meet de-
: 'Woolly for the media of the bee. member for Waiver-
' limeetoe.
Kr. N. RIINDALL (the oser ineober de Rest Cornwall)
said he raw se mem for obseging ir. opinions. It was
his lendides that but he die oposilso of other causes
apart tem tree loin net only the working classes them.
selves would vley posts* hare demanded a ',impend°.
of tbe hapset dig OS ens—beg sandtat don a oars dem-

genres one. those who wpeesMted the manufseturing in-
Nast, would have puns the same amen. (Laughter.)
He sees not anxious to restore the import duty on corn,
either direvly or inclined,. The protectionist party had
submitted ss quietly an they possibly could to the victory
that had been seined over them ; and now it seemed they
were to be insulted, for he maintained that the word
"odious," as applied to the terms " wise, just, and benefi-
cial, "in the resolution, was a very proper word. Whew
this matter was disposed of, he hoped to be able generally
to support the government ;—(laughter)—but he could net
vote for either of the resolutions before the house. Let it
be remembered that the agricultural class was suffering ao-
Timely, and were entitled to relief.
Mr. BLACKETT said he should vote for the original
motion, rather than for the amendment. He doubted not
that honourable gentlemen opposite were still protection.
isle in their hearts; he was, therefore, anxious to apply to
them the most stringent test that could be devised.
Colonel SIBTHORP believed that neither the tradao
sun, the farmer, nor the labourer, if asked the
question, would say that the measures of free trade
own unite, or just, or beneficial. The prosperity of
Illefeguntry, which was so much spoken of, was owing
to the discovery of Californian and Australian gold.
He believed the poor man would not he compelled to leave
hie own country, if he were only properly treated at home.
Met they introduced exhibitions and such things to encou-
Mg. the foreigner, at the expense of the home producer,
and the remelt of which was, that there never was so much
disease in the metropolis as since the day it opened.
(Laughter.) The resolution of the noble lord (Palmerston)
was a men trap_ to catch the unwary—it was a composing
draught for her Majeety's g aaaaa ment—(laughter)—a com-
promise, es it was called. Ile detested all compromises.
(Laughter.) He would not vote fur anything—(laughter)
—and would walk out of the house when the question came
to a vote. (Laughter.)
Mr. WAItNEIi (Norwich), said, that as the representa-
tive of a large cceistituency, and as one of those m w mesa-
bens who were untrained in the arts of factiou, he wished to
state that he should give his support to the reso-
lution of the hon. and learned member for Wolverhamp-
ton, which had been characterised by the right hon. gentle.
man opposite as odious, insulting, end factious.
stir J. ()NAHA!! said—`Sir, I presume that this house,
which has now fur several nights beta debating a question
• is a great degree has turaed upon the use of words,
Emit be ansious to have this discussion brought to a close.
(Heath hear.) Considering that I have al.esdy almost tin.
warrantaoly trespassed on the time of the house last night
--whoa, although strictly within the rules of the house, a
discussion was originated in a somewhat unusual
I feel that I should be inexcusable if I ocenpied its time fur
any length on the present occasion. The hon. member fur
Cornwall has observed that there is nothing so painful to a
man uto swallow his opinions. lint I can tell him that
there is nothing very agreeable in having one's words sud-
denly brought up before him in the shape of a motion when
you least expected it. (" Hear, hear," and laughter) A
gnat deal Las been said in the course, of this debate about
old stagers, and appeals to young members. I fear that I
meet place myself in the category of those first mentioned,
and that I must confess myself an " old stager."
(Laughter.) As an old stager, then, I would give
this pine of advice to the younger member s— the
result of recent experience--that there is nothing so foolish
as to write a book or a pamphlet. (Laughter.) It is evi-
dently utterly impossible to frame a motion which would
please everybody in the house. Yet I should state to the
house that the result of this discussion has been very pain.
fad to me; because, in discussing the comparative merits
of the original motion—for which I may be supposed
to have a sort of paternal fondnrs—all the arguments
in favour of the amendment teem to be of a most repulsive
character. The Chancellor of the Exchequer complains of
Illse epithets in the original motion. He designated the
wards "just, wise, and beneficial," applied to tee corn-law
oopool 0(1816, as odious." Now, if epithets are to be
epplied the English language contains none which are so
yposit• 'ethos' in the ceiginal motion. (Hear, hear.)
The right bon. gentleman the Secretary for the Colonies
went the length of stating that he cou,d not con-
cede to the opposition that the repeal of those laws was
just or wise, and, to my astonishment, the amendment to
which I believe her Majesty's government are now parties
—the amendment which we are now discussing—contains
these words : " That it is the opinion of this house that the
improved condition of the country, and especially of the
industrious classes, is mainly the result of recent legisla.
tion, which has established the principle of unrestricted
competition, has abolished taxes impose I for the purpose of
protection, and has thereby diminished the cost
and increased the abundance of the prin. ipal
article of the food of the people." (Hear, hear )
Did I not understand the right hon. gentleman to have
made last Meat some reservation also with regard to sugar ?
(Hear, hear.) la not sugar a part of the food of the people ?
(Hear, hear.)
air 1. PAKINOTON made as observation which was not
beard.

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en(
rnr and
kindly
n whoseade
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n the member for the cmndy mf
Surrey has referred to the history of the Anglo-Sixims,
and at the risk of laying myself open to the charge of pedals.
try, I must be allowed to refer to au lucid tit in
Roman history, which may eeeee to illiedrete the pmiteia
in which we are now placed. (Hear, hear.l I refer to the
passage in Livy which relatesto the conduct of • Hunan
general, who had to deal with an army of prisoners, e.d
whose ultimate decision in reference to their disp,sal
treated of by the historian as • masterpiece of policy. 'lb.
first advice given was, that they should be set at !Merle;
but that was said not to be expedient fir the public saleiy,
and a middle course was suggested. But the answer was,
exterminute them there is no middle coarse. So it
here—there is no middle course, and if youwitli to preserve
the public peace you must settle this quedii n upon terms
that will be acceptable to the public. (Cheer.) Ido not
wish to stigmatise hon. gentlemen isppodte for their past
policy; it is enough to vindicate this gri a tuna
by words which will cover all the principle.
to which I am bound, without referee, to the
future meanies of the government, but I must
at the same time declare that if it should hereafter become
necessary, there is no gentleman in this house who will be
more prepared than myself to resist the doctrine of compels.
action or aid to the laud. (Cheers.) We ought simply
now to call upon the goverument to coutirm the policy
which was adopted iu 1816, in terms which shall declare
Its wisdom in the abstract, oral I shall ihereyore
not depart from the winds of the amendment, which
I have already admitted are verbatim et liter aim my
(Hear, hear.) It is painful for no. to vide auai,,,t the pro,
position of my hoe. friend the member for Wolverhampton
and thou° gentleini with whom in prdiciple 1 entirey
tierce • hut I should be unworthy of my
if I hail heeitated to state that by which I am prepared to
stand. (Cherri.)
Mr. ILLIPS said he should cordially vote foe the
amendment of the noble lord toe member fir Tiverton,
believing that it rocogniaed the principle of non interference
with the mat policy of the government. (Hear, iteer
Lord J. RUSSELL said—l have some Milks, Irnis the
appearance of the house, that there is a desire to tiring this
discussion to a close to-night (chi ers)—antl I ant sure ihst
the exhausted state of the debate would well juttity the
house in not prolungiug into smuttier week the present de-
bate. (Hear, hear.) Bat, sir, 1 hate taken tie, lira a
part in these discuations, and have been too frequettly re.
Irma t io the course of the debate en the present ,e„,n
not to feel obliged to esa the indulgence of the bow,. •bia;
I make some obeervatiohe on the state of the questiou which
is now before us. In the first place, tweeter,
I I
athhoiunikel sittateismydvuieew to
view the
he greueeolustiotinonsitikwhlichtia'ar:
before the house. As my hon. friend proiaie d hia reso-
lutions I understood them to be waited lv ray wean of the
gentlemen who have taken the lead on the great qv alma
61 free trade. I understood that my hon. friend, wring as
I think it was his duty to do, consulted various roaninre of
this house. He naturatly consult• el the hon. mender for
the West Aiding of Yorkshire and the him. mew. r
far
Manchester (as was underatuual) ; he likesrhiegoin,n,nd the
noble lord the member for Tiverton, the right hon. gee:fe-
u:ion the member for the University' of ()steed, eel the
right hon. gentleman the member (or Carlile; and I cer-
tainly understood my right hon. friend to say that lie thought
he had their concurrence. But my right hon. treind the
member fur Carlisle made a statement last night with re.
spat to another form of resolotious, which were referred te
in debate by the noble lord the member for Tnio.ront. The
noble lord made a speech to the house in which he lamented
that gentlemen on the other aide of the house could sot
agree to the resolutions which were before them, and
stated his opinion with regard to the house having n dlong
to do with the private opinions of public men—an opinion
in which I cannot gay 1 enticur—(hear, hear)—and he
ended by producing thous resolutions of my right hon.
friend, which had the effect of very much enielding hem
gentlemen on the opposite side, a course which mewed to
be °wondered, as the noble lord said it would be, acceptable
to their wounded honour and agreeable to their minis,
while at the same time it has made a great di-
vision among those who were engaged on this
side of the house. (Opposition cheer.) That being
the state of the question, then, I hove to consider
what my course shall be with rega d to these resolu-
tions. And, sir, I must declare in the first piaci , that both
sets of resolutions are exceedingly well homed, and both
seem to me to go generally to the some object. (lear,
hear.) Bach set is divided into three ports. Each ettirms
the benefits which our commercial legislation in past years
his conferred on the country, and especially on the working
classes ; end that it is desirable to maintain it'd extend
that policy ; and affirms, in the last place, that the home
will be ready to listen to any measures which
may be brought forward. Therefore, sir, I own it
would appear to me that the resolutions which were
first produced, and which were introducid by a member
of this house in whom I and all those who value the tree-
trade policy could so entirely cionfide—(cheers)—the boo.
member for Wolverhampton having had the priority—(
think it would be difficult fur me, it I du me duty, to con-
sent to give a vote which might have the effect of setting
aside *Aid rejecting those resolution.. (Oppootion cheers.)
For that, sir, is the question which you will have to put at
the end of this long debate. You will have to ask the house
whether the words that are proposed to be left out shall
stand part of the question; in other word*, whether those
words are to be rejected, and not put to the house as the
main question for consideration. Now, 1 own I should be
disposed to say that if the resolutions of the noble lard the
Member fur Tiverton, drawn up in the first instance by the
t hon. gentleman the member for Carlisle, had beta
first before the house, and the resolutions of my hon.
d the member for Carlisle had been moved as en
amendment, I should have taken just the same course,
which would have had, however, the reverse effect—l
should have voted for the resolutions of the noble lord, the
member for Tiverton, standing part of the question, and
agaiast the resolutions moved as an amendment, because u
they seem to me to he very nearly the same—l do not say
that they are so in the view of hon. gentlemen opposite—
(hear, hear)--as they both concur and coincide in my mo-
menta, I think it must be my duty to prefer those which
were first propped to the house. (Opposition cheers) Wells
but then, it is said that there are words ia
those resolutions of my honourable friend, which give
offence to gentlemen opposite, and that in an " anemblyof
gentlemen," you ought not to ask others to affirm that
which would be offensive to their tailings and degrading to
their honour. I certainly do not wish airy gentleman to
epee to that which he thinks " degrading to his honour."
(Hear, hear.) 1 am not speaking of my own sentaneou or
my ewes opinions; but I certainly could not ask any one is
this house to affirm a resolution to which he attributed
that offset, and whether it be the noble lord the member for
Timeline or bon-gentlemen opposite, who take that view, I
ceases osinolaia of itsbeing taken ; but I do not see why
Inn he make nip mMothipendent upon their feeling.. Passing
to tbegenemel Itheollem the noble lord continued. There is,
however,* meth olleged why, slit is raid, injustice attached
to the repeal *idle seen laws—namely, that the repeal of
the Men lams mu me sadden as very unjustly to expose a
most deserving dos to very great hardship.. Well, sir, f
that is the nee, I do not think I. am at all to blew
in that respect, because, as the right -hon. gentleman re-
minded me last night, in 1841, and indeed in 1840,1
proposed an Is. duty, that the change might be more
gradual—(" hear, bear," from the Opposition)—and even
in the you 1846, I still proposed • fixed duty. But hon.
gentlemen opposite would never listen to such a proposal as
that, sad Ihmegh I repeatedly told, among others, the pre-
sses rim minister, that if he did not assent to such a
&Mgys be would find agriculturists at last deprived of all
preeeseism ; yet be still went on obstinately resisting any
mash Ohmage. (Hear, hear.) The change cams as I had
r; It swept away the whole of the corn laws.
ierld. Derby, who in 1846 said an Si. duty we.
sae duty at all, endeavoured in 18.51, but endeavoured
in oath, to get some members of this house to
loaner with him in proposing a duty of no more
them Ave shillings. (Hear, hear.) Well, now, I
notation this matter because I remember that at the time it
was very panful to me. 1 war held up in 1841 as being
the great enemy of the farmers, as wishing to destroy their
property and their interests, and every endeavour was made
to make me odious to them. (Hear, hear.) Sir, I
felt this very much. The family to which I belong
had always been connected with land, and I could
not but feel it painful to be thus held up to
odium. (Chun.) Certainly it is some satisfaction to me
now to see that the wart measure for which I was held up
to odium is • boon which they who then held me up to
odium would be very glad to secure. Well, air, having
said this with regard to the past, I cannot but say a few
words with respect to that question which has been raised
daring the debates of the last three days, and which I see
gang to become one of very great importance. We have
bad, 1-fear, the signal of a fresh struggle from the right
ben. gentlemen the Chancellor of the Exchequer-1 refer
10 the question which I believe he would not call one of
compensation, but one of relief to the landed interest.
I dare say that I shall be misunderstood by the farmers,
as I was when I proposed an Bs. fixed duty ; but it cer-
tainly is my opinion that it would not be wise of the landed
interest to ark for any special relief, whether it was
called compensation or anything else. (Cheers.) The
member for Dorset/him has said that the protec-
tionist party are divided into three classes
one that never expects to see protection restored, one that
hopes for • reaction in course of time, and • third that
hopes for a restoration at once. With respect to two of the
classes I can say nothing, but with respect to the third, who
think that protection can never be restored, it was not can-
did of them not to tell the farmers what would actually be
the result if their friends came into power. (Hear, hear.)
But the right hon. gentleman has a case for them, net •
pleasant one, because it is merely technical, showing
that he has never made any positive promise, nor
made a proposition that went to the restoration
of protection. Drawing this, granting that the character
given to one of his predecessors, one of the most witty and
able of men, Charles Townsend, of whom Mr. Burke said
that "he was infinitely above having en opinion "—(loud
laughter)—giving the
ntigthhatt boa.a gentleman
respect,
. .th cenred for
being
like
the conclusion that, thinking protection cannot be re-
stored—being, perhaps, rather an favour of free trade—the
right hon. gentleman has allowed his party and the rareness
of the country to think that he was about to restore prase.
don, what in truth he meant nothing of the kind
(Hear, hear.) The right boa gentleman has described seam
of as on this side of the boom, whom he designates as the
Manchester school, as the enemies of the formers, but I
think that the farmers should know the truth—should
know the opinion which eminent men in this country enter-
tain, and I think that if the right hon. gentleman has
thought all this *tins that it was impossible to restore pro-
tection,: and' that relief for the land must be sought else-
where, then I think it was du to a large body of men to
tell them what were his reel convictions. (Rear, beer.)

Sir J. GRAHAM—The right hon. gentleman will pardon '
me. Ido not wish to refer to election speeches, but I
think he stated very broadly last night that with raged to
sugar be retained all the opinions he ever entertained.
The right hon. gentleman said formerly that the West
Indian colonies were unjustly treated, and would be ruined
by the removal of the differential duty in favour of colonisl
sugar; and he said lest night that he retained his former
opinions as strongly as seer. The house will remember
what took place in the month of June last. The descend-
ing scale of duties was about to come into operation in July,
the right hon. gentleman said he retained all his former
opinions, and that his wee sly unable, from being in a
minority, to rasters the sliding seal*. (Hear, hear.) Does
not the right hon. gentleman then openly avow his intention
of adhsrini to that policy ? And bow, I ask, can the right
hoe, gentleman possibly vote for the amendment if he
really Melee those equities ? (Hear, hear.) I have
read somewhere that sugar is the delight of childhood, the
soother of old age; bat that in polities it has a great
tendency to lead to disaster. (" Hear, bear," and laughter.)
1 well remember reediog theht goo. gentlnitha's (the
Chancellor of the Exchequer" Political Biography of
Lord George Bentinth." and I think in oas part of it
there is a most graphic description of what took place with
reference to this very question. It appears that the West
India iaterest did not take any decided part in resisting in
1846 the repeal of the conslaws, and when the question
arose as to repealing the sager duties, Lord
George Batista was asked by some members of
his party to withhold his rapport from the West
India istereeL And what was the noble lord's reply ?
Why with a elgailleant shake of the head that was peculiar
to himself he mode Mk obeervatioa : He said, " No, we are
entirely fat pmeestins as • prissiple. We are not privy
(muscatels, but we are beast ate ; we atom stand by our
principles cal Feast the West Wise." And yet, sir, the
time pas arrived when right hen, madssma opposite have
been Montan', nempelled te seemise their prieciplet ; hat
lam on the whet net sultriest at their change. (Hear,
hear.) For: I remember the speech :of the noble lord
the member far Thorns at the seemed reading of
the bill for the roped of the • sea laws is
1816. It was an adaurehle speak and in that speech the
noble lord, Ia hie own dear cad tereible means,, fore-
shadowed what has bees the result et the pally conflict in
reference to that measure. (Rear, hoar.) The noble lord
said long experience had made hkm wise. and he was satisfied
that if is the course et eiremestamm those gentle-
men who were thee for protection should
ever become t Treasury beaches.
sit weeks weurrsr s *pee before their tganakin.
en ills awn laws would underge great
or esseiderable Olean krer.) "It had been
maid seeneerbere," the nails inal treat on to say, " that
these weft imetsia Ammo whisk were sterilr for certain
diem o% and he mid he would Wee any proteetimist, and
no metier beseipmemilivespri pmesslea Sever might be4reells
last hiss la Om sin months, and he
waderleke to lay Ike malady wadi les eared." (Laughter.)
And so it has tuned eat he the use. It would have
been hardly Pewit* sem minas ape, to cenvinos hamar-
able gentlemen egpseite that Me results to be found
in Yr. Pernik leek ever have been realised. It
meld ham hese psesible for them to
foresee that She free saw duties could be diminished
a bundled pee mat., and yet the quantity imported
sitosid he inenneed by enerthird, while the original price
hi latiOt. ma that the revenge derivable from that
secret shield net liaartaaa bat segment. (Rear, hear.)
All them this. were hardly credible, but now my
right has. hind the member for the county of
Oaked is Pessident et the Board of Trade, and he had
seellemedi *we melts by smashing his signature to the
Asia' mares from which obey have been gathered. (Hear,
hear.) Now, there is another topic upon which I wish to
Wools if the bense will allow no so long to trespass
apse their 'seed... The right hoe. gentleman the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer last night unadvisedly made use of
the word " compensation," and said that he was not aware
that a word like that, except it was amid at the hustings,
mold be found in sal of his speoehes. Now, without
making reforms, to " Halliard," I may state that I have
discovered that the right hon. gentleman has made use of
such a phrase, and although I ass sot disposed to criticise
words at this time of night, I thick it right to mention
the surprise that I experienced upon looking over the able
and mutiny speech of my hon. and gallant friend the member
for Middlesex to bad that it coutalned the passage quoted
tram a speech whisk the right hea.reatkiath the Chancellor
sifthe Bathe/quer, delivered in this Louse on the 14th of May,
111
18.30, upon Mr. G. Berkeley's motion for an alteration
la the corn laws—. I ask you to protect the rights and in.
Waste of labour generally—in the lest plass, by allowing
no free imports from coantrise which meet you with
countervailing duties ; end, in the second place,
with respect to agricultural produce, to oceapea-
sato the soil for the burdens from which other
Blames are free by au equivalent duty." (Hear, hear.)
There is compeasauoa spoken of here certainly, and I am
rather surprised that the right hen. gestlen.an should have
been betrayed into such • declaration as that to which I
have referred. (Hear, hear.) Now, sir, something has
been said in the counts of this debate to the effect that the
repeal of the corn laws was earned by bowing to public
opinion. Such 'amuse, I mast take leave to observe,
is am meetly courteous or parliamentary, when it is di-
nged to those who supported that measure; but, sir,
I am not aware that tits cora laws were repealed in that
way. (Hear, hear.) My hon. friend the member for the
West Riding took occasion the other night to refer to what
he sailed the Christian forbearance of the friends and sup-
porters et the late Sir Robert Peel. My hon. friend ee-
l* surprise that we should have been so forbearing but I can my b. friend in
framing those resolutions lassure framed them in a spiritthat which
I believe my late right hoe. friend would have adopted
soder preset circumstances had he been spared to us.
(Cheers.) The term, however, of" Christian forbearance" i
was, however, happily used by my hon. friend, for it has i
given my right hon. friend an opportunity of paying a
well-desered and savviest tribute to the sensory of my I

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fag vs the Ihniosed this country to be as respectable and ormednielles i Handeset Illetallaisideee empty, and
..eg- Wa.• • CIAO WI any other is the commaurty, but in poem eg ygirkeyw as from the
--1 d; ~,,t believe that on IC00001i4:01 subjects they . anodised ad
with seam and en the read
fa,, MI soled the mitt r to its found itiosa, or, sides is despair. I say, illmee MEMO eireseastanees .
thr.114(13 Adam &m,'', or other authors, on i were as clearly traceable te the en laws as to any
r. nem". Ihrrseare, I think it sem due to them to other causes. (Hear, hoar.) If we Is* at the prices ell
..".., is, settled sonnies.' rat the last Boum of Commons, and' • :i.at is Prillail. in Oerumay, and Antrim, then, and
srb-.., 55,11 probably be tic osmium of this- lairly sad i compete it with the pli.,•111 created by attileial means in
k„„,..,ey refute them. (Hear, hear, Mar.) It has he this ssointry, it showed that if the bonier. of prohibition
--0,,,,,e httlorto, according to the constitution that when bad lieen broken down you woeld have had milling of
FM •h re intertain cedars nation, certain views, arid clearers of core to feed the great mason of the pep's.
,e pirieeder, dud ih.y tied they are thwarted in them What had been the effect of that law on the k•alth of the
8:11:,:i they think they ought to be candied jute effect, du y country, and what ku been its effect on the criminal
a,., ~,, ,i. lit• Ill 01. Itiet . Olt M..) DUI, at I understand statrsties of the country ? In 1838. when corn was at 3.is.
iii.i,ertlen token by Co present ministry, it 1$ this : if the aqu ieter, the number of eommittaha was 29,040. In 1542,
~,,try AirrOtt• of protection, wo will carry it out; bat when the price ot sewn was 645. a querter, the number of
ti:-,s„boold be in favour of kW: trade, then we will carry committals had lammed to 31,309; and in 1834,
"I we ti. 4.. mil it *gain, we should hereafter Ond that when it was at 40s. 3d. a quarter, the member was
you,. usiss.sgly right, sad that feet trade orodeees then 26,813, markiog an increase of 60 per cent. in six
~g,,mties we 'enervated, then we will he protee- ye.irs when prices were high; and although popnt
6,7.5 ti, mese, et Rear," cod a laugh.) Thus the same lotion has been increasing, yet the emansittale have
w ary may remain ps isurnently in ofnee, now as free diminished by 3,000. Is it not as clear as daylight that
velem sad sew as pretectionists, mit suits there purpose. your system has been producing calamities which, as
Isere mu poseibly be some advantage to the Christian meg, yes ought to end • to avert, and hay-
',miry is li moot new measures mid sew sine, and loh ill ing brought yourselves to that conviction, there ought to be
se earfectly ready to her whatever measures may be no mincing of matters as to whether or nut you should
~„„1, .11,1 should be sone to do anthing to may
brand three lows as unjust. (Bear, hear.) I have elute
r,,, sar.,,teetorn ; but I may .t the mom time we am thought how little you in this Muse know of what isgoing
feted to smelt with jealousy show measures, fur the whole on out of doors. While war are now discussing whether or
wag, ..1 the Firmest debate has show. that there are many set we shell declare the measure of 1816 "just," the only
ot . t• euppoirter. of government who are still protectionists complaints I have received are that we are too quiet, and
ii, ~...a. oier. 0 them •houlit be anything like a reverse in do not selliciently assert our principles. (Loud cheer.)
see rensmermal prosperity of the country ; it, lens over I think there is ground for such eoropkista, and I think
4,,,,a0.,,0, or other enema, temporary distress should be we have allowed gentlemen opposite to sesame too much
pureed, wiled be reedy, after all, to reopen the qua sties, the tone of a grievance, and to my that we want to trample
wi begs. to Agitate far a rieurrenee to Pm uldeystemof pro- there down. I see nu symptoms of their being crushed
dvion. Usurer%) Imy we IRMA watch them symptoms -the down: they germ in good spode, exhibit mach confidence
bait al am y•t be c onrush:J. and it will be our duty to and no little Intones/me towards free traders; and I e limo
tae t erre that tins great relies do not suffer. (('been.) help amine that I witnessed with d.spist the mouser in
Ur W.tI.POLE made some obeervatimn in explanation which • pillion of the house treated the son of the Mee-
goo J. was, in rt treelike to some insotuations thrown out by triers man to whom we owe the measure of 1816. (Loud
lord Jobe Rossetti against his 'miasmal con...teary. It. de- cheers.) I see no danger of your being trompled down. I
linvieivit the r.woutim of Mr. Villiers as offensive and an- eimmlain of gentlemen opposite, not that they are Mails d
On.. and with regard to do, gen cal subject, was still of together against tree trade, but that they have behaved
wawa tt at -ern slaver might be present appearances- badly to Uwe* who sent tnem here. (Hear, hear.) You
de repealed the COM lass was a sadden and • hasenloos make it • complaint against free trade Inv the injury which
lersoure.
you say has been done to the farmers. But I say that you
tar. t WIDEN mid-Os this, probably the very last are the &whom of all the peachier which has been done
ere ...• on which the e ktroverey betweet free trade and to the famine singe the repeal of the corm laws. Den ag the
preeet. n may ever he hard in this hesse-(load cheers) fast six years you have done nothing but agitate th
-i. nea tot'. 1001104. be P.....1P1tc..s to otter • few question of protection, and that in those years which
word. to 1 o home. (Chien.) It is not • little. striking to my were a period of tranotion for the farmer, few we admit
eo,. an-i„ ...is's., eirmisestancee, that on the last solemn that is • great cheap like that which has tetra place,
w,„,,,.....0 this or...tam was debated by the hoes*, I Wale persons must suffer during such • state of transition.
el, oi tte ...road mediae of the ball for the repeal But the burden ought not to be throws on the farmers.
of the torn laws, introduced by Bir IL Peel There have been effects resulting from your agitation
is tyke, 1 remember quite well that the CAW' of which you are not aware of. It seems as if you desired
t ,„
~,, ~...,,,, aro cud uneasiness in my mind, was the to get rod of all the burdens yourselves and to throw them
V,' f . ~,„nine noble lord the member fee Tiverton would on the tenet farmers, for by sending agitators about the
tyke on that VA a.,'.. (.• Hear, hear," end a laugh.) It country, such, fur instance, as the noble member for War.
is no s. stet that is that parliament • taro* majority of the wirkshire (to whom, by the by, I cannot return the cum-
boor ism ,n their Marts unfavourable to the repeal ot plineent he paid me, by saying that Ise hay been a Inc.
se, ;ors laws. Probabie it is not too much tosay that two- metal demagispit)L(great cheering and laughter)-I
thirds of that hoes* by their interests, it not by their con- say, if by wending them about on every platform you have
ineneoe,wasoepotiellto that measure ;and there are not per- kept alive the delirious of the farmers with regard to
begs 20 peen* the other house who were really favour- reentioa, you are then their m ergot enemies. (Hear.)
mys to ii. It gam me therefore, who was so deeply inter- I heard it said by the hes. member for Cambridge-
mai is the prasjog ef that stessare, %hewn S*1110061:00. hire that in the last six pars he has been steely ruins t,
tern, test there disield be found a salrieet number of the and that that ban been the fate of the tanant farmers generally.
',wow aeteeenen sf th, .Lay, ens either or on both sides of What have the agents of your landlords bee. doing?
the house, who would be willing to tarry on the *Masse Going shoat, when the elections were coming 00, a'...
of the country and mountain the imp:winos in •du :y on taped to the farmers, " Oh, you mustn't talk about rests."
tom, for 1 was sere that it uoly required such an cronies- (Loud and reiterated cries of . Oh, oh.") . Don't talk
bee of caliiiel men, with the support of the Boum of now," said the agents, " about clearing away hedgerow.
Common, whirl, they would have received, to have de- or about diminishing game." (Renewed cries of "Oh,
fisted Mt R. Peel, and prevented the repeal of oh.") Then" Oh, oh's,' tell me lam hitting hard-that
the corn lows. I c00t.., therefore when I heard the lam sear the marrow. (Laaghter arid reviewed intemap-
pleas lord the reenter to liveries, at the eoselesion of a ties.) " Yes," said the agent., " don't talk about improve-
very able opiech, &Mare that even then he woe in favour menus-all you have now got to think abort isAProtection.
of a hoed duty, that declaration gave me more anxiety Protection is the thing; and you mast tram to Mr. Neon-
than seythose which laid occurred in the diwomiuu. 1 mate and his one hundred protection societies." (Laaghter,
trek to ii,.i oiliest anis* he has pentad %see as the cheers, mid cries d"
Order.") I think I he ird the hon. no
e0,,,,et of tee Immo policy of the country. I was one .1 gating member opposite (Colonel Sibtheep) cheering me.
sits ,i, nth,* ri on tills side ..l the boum who voted ageism (Here Col. &taken, to the greet aisseesaiset of the now,
the moan of the hem. member tor Sheffield, spprovong of gave • hearty cheer.) I motet that hoe. and sanest
the toreupi poiwy tit the tootle lord, and ray opinion of his gentleman. He at least has been consistently wrong-
rehab.. c toduct at borne has ben formed on his contlect (cheers and laughter)-bat what I complain of the gentle•
wah fteintl to oar toreign policy. I have been accustomed nuts around him is, that if they have • principle they don't
Is deer Lori Aberdeen spores Of as the supporter of der aeon themselves worthy of it. (Chimers.) They .ell the
piton abroad, and the sioole lord the member tor 'Tiverton farmers that they are protectionists, end swan to have
an am moo determined o, portent; bat I teapot bum re what they call "Justice •• but when they come here they
Bullet We prompt adhesion of Lori Aberdeen to the riser say: " Alt, here's a gagoirity against us ; well, let us bow to
aou of the r. prat of the corn laws, sod his @faun that it. (Cheers and isteibter.) And accordingly they bow,
he only reeretted that it was net to be sad trust to the diplirsoy it the noble viseenst to let them
ima,,hat, ly ; and 1 n,:.er fell into the prevailing down easy. (Oven Isnghtert mingled with cries of" No.")
dos-ion of the honesty of the motives of the noble lord the Yeomen not is me ;it a aeceseasy that yes should
at, niter la fivertao. I mention this became I think it is beer all this ; sail es it, the fanners will reed all this.
espe,, ii reason tor reetriumendutg this side of the homers, (Hoar, Mar.) WI, 't yea imitate us, the fns-traders?
torsi.
en. ~,rt,, Marl) those juveniles who have been so often Did we bow to a stoderity f When 1 wire into this house
alined to, sot to follow the footsteps of the stable lord is 1641 the first %Nog I saw dies was the *es member for
the member for Tiverton, but to go into the lobby to sap. the West Riding (111 k. Watley) moving a vete of want of
port , toe rmulutions ut my ho.. friend the member mafidnee in mirth's berm they were proposing a tr-
im Wiserbamptoo. What bee been the coarse of the diled system of foe trade. That was net roosragestest
Wile had? When es rose with that blandness of rather tea frontal' ;it was osithili to mike the heart ink to
so characteristic of him, manly to signet an alteration ia led the rtpeseeatrios of melt • eenallaesey taking suck a
the motion be his amendmeet, we were led to seppme that issaies. 1.1 we did sot bow to yew ethisthe of 80, which
the noble lord, who still site as this 'idea! the hosse,wisbed tuned eat the whip. (Cheers.) la; vs en to work ; and
to som a. it to his friend. us this side, and that he would la lee years we woe the West Biding.ateonalthid Si, R.
haire6en mewed, had we wonted his mediation, to have Peel to carry the repeal of the WS bwei. (Casein) If
withdrawn his amendment. (Hear.) Bat it appears that the you think yea are right. parer the armis arse' • and I'll
seals Wed was swam that nimotenths of these who sit es tell yew that you want tie awry of year ormiposa if,
this ode and with whom be is politically connected, thief/km yes ere right, yea withrthelas sank from you
with a hes heading exceptions, would vote for the motion of Ili* are " bow" bo • Iliciarii7- (Lied sheen.) Perhaps
my hon. friend the member fur Wolverhaniptes ; and ye- tn. MOM •FOll% Ha you.; bet yes swot say that t
le km mewed his aseadeseet into the sawn of the pro. waited he pomade Pe 10 join in • wooldlitioll which yeti
tedeontst goveremest ; sod if the divisies es this ineetion aty midi thithis wyam. Mash has hen said by some
sheen have a rush iniseenrablis to the fras.trede mar,
elf pea la isaire at the coarse takes by the
the mead, will -thin he is the rather of ear Clarkin if the inhereser; and, indeed, I think It le
draw,. (T. m the ipprillea, sad imaginal, to spa la language too Meng of the lark
sae of " Oh, oh," sad eenese sheers from the nanerrial *OMB bens aimed to the mesa, the •••••••• NUM of the
beaches.) Now, I don't omens* of the terms et the Ilw.eaderind . oh")-by the language
inseadment as the noble heed het sow gives the., or so Mid by w Ma. gentlest'. with* the last 48 hours.
much became it does set go Wks fall extant of this avowal (Aom) Ti was him, sae wart be led to belle,, that
of free trade principles. but I MOM that when the genesis. led it men bees fie him, the an of '46 would have bees
of tree trade is perfectly eig&-Ifer yew meld as weal pull the Inimalfildly sigaski. (Chews aid laughter.) Bet do
stirs out of the 6 roarer es hapset sae fartbiag of duty hissitheasnagese la that hbeely of the struggle? It does
on the importation of era-the alas lord, by hesintorven. mar illidkaw ; he ket sight he broadly told the noble
tool, should take away the only there of ear kleatifyiag lied (Orally) that Ids budget would laird' large rear.
'orrice, oath it. (laud eibeess.) The earoillaint II dai dial Ilinieffelo kith be cheer die dimes vin have cached
__•f
tiara lord it se framed Is us biros Ike r • vets of this resekth WA ...._./R
..111.10611. leth mama bbl right head
booms en do so, all Massa * rawer sties ; bat by rehashes allsegth (Kr. Waggle) amino um that we mast mote:pest
to my that the repeal of the ass laws was wise and pm. be see any kind of sionall norwies at eel. (Cheers and
and by eddies that it bed wand nth prosperity as lialkter.) Bat we on ft Ithse the elehenamt of the Chas-
'Nola enable the =it better he bear sa burdens they NOM of Ike lirtheasee la othotaka MIR the hint is the
right lave, lord tre ore' tie door to tie feral speech, mad la athassisa with the the haus of
lustre in In
steraistna. (Hoer. bur) Ido not deny rate of the Vint Nielsen ; and it smith be bla Om
the
what has rid as the ether aids. that it is tortrair to divines will net* be between tins wile was he in
asp one to peeps, to Fast 0111410011.1d00 to nay Mom, lead• Writ* all ampaithisa, sad these who vets ke Owe
whatever may he the decision et the berme mew . and I ip trade leaving ebeleelebee
__er bee.,_lleeleePee•easTbilegi.._, rte
farther, and say that even if the bore was as decide that ..i.• of " Ilkke lea-,1 6the fe the Weethee , se_._..=
rapartir wee mot to be, yet, if say ha rirbortblak• tbe Iteeekse. I ele.,.th a 090. 111•118,._.___las is taule.,_ht. thezeibeiL
etherere, dis his defy to advocate his asoileiliaa mad 11l boa. rllllllOllB I••• 4 "Me tiMP.l6* Mr.,,_,..._,._'.
kiss the geestios before the hems. ilea with we wthatid and . alethkfle) who were the mmw------iii
ons, that se thee, the first assembling 'tithe hear after the seiliefre egi ale Bethel Peel, ••• sewer e• thew
Celection, a majority*mild swam as inane tent edam it ping inns the lobby with thepm t
remi pall of the ems lawis Jail, sod -tiet toses porn ageism a neolutin wideli isidnes that t&a- gem /I
Is is . ado is the leaded inmost * gay eon IMO was who mad JO" Oast dm/4 I *NM Ma
10•111611. (HNC. kW.) Now the wide lord In oath • reeehries wail has. bra Ars ei some'
pommel that thaw (him ) The rade lord did not es these radomm_ Mann) lea es)7 thy.
41
fear wad Wool Ow roar of my has. kind the mess. . Win* lateseethath was waste sad was sot-
be Weir thingisa. Asa the essikare, he rid Met he that MSS 11111=1111111 Winkled le pat ea cad to 'Hon,
mite wed of it and mould vele he Ilk sod be has Us amid Itsangraefe maid,,, and 1040111.-(trim et "eb ")-
aspire winch ohms Um be Obis tire who en sad every odemity that as bold pertlaties-I
ait au marg. ls it re so now nee iii real wlll wets he the rembedea et my ho., and horsed
hand to the rear se ge mod ea eleesehmet witch Ilea& (Lipoid theses.) Lod la &fag es I hag rest
is eilosterd u
he he. le these wtas ere enrol ft ii. retied el en•hefAwollY 08 sera ohm tow ir omen 68 net•• 111•-
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eed••••eriar
he anseteis - views es
r Whet are ibis einallsas le the nisi "jun " is
this mann / IsseDaaaty te pennon she an set
herweilas at el. anis ja*Mtines na ehasis we ban
at Mere, tun us
pe ay Ili AM Man te the OP@
otn m M
asses. If as thin be sttsh—l de set
sepia then to sae ler either yespeilisa saw
Inn the hen% her they wend Ming nek
nestallby name kr the SESsioseit
rti sbise erne Mid 1M sambee fie, Theresa, es bp Begat
M Me nen. ef ny Ma. M.. 4 the amber fer Waiver-
bosses Nay nem if Uwe be ono Ewa who thins
M. trade in boss lajormeue to the awasavy, sad that par
man a right panne, be betnye hie sesniene
ta seestri—J he eases tee either the maims sr the amen-
ern hr the eassinest ef th• aside Met darn the
M of hie Inge lolls es nen es this ones if of
no HOS hes. pathemes dee essiellory
So Ism Deputaist sop, Oat bo same* alias nes sae
as ef IMO wee "Jen" Maas he was sat sollpwitai
eV_ nes M lad ensued hassairly the whale amenny.
met nat is ell the gainse I had IMP lasilha
Weise a law wee hal le no pat body of lhe peen.
er what ar it was a law whine wham it was heasieS ID
nal hostas. wee pedestals et
Heil ewes II
we sheer that we hew ulabt la aid Mine
nand as repel. M Wag lellood es es.
thisielz=ittersi is the omen of Os ispsy win
as the -pen mon the peens, sad
Mal of siviag yes esapasseueson slim hen net nsW
%kW Onnems who sepal ne olft hi
pt naps. sad hew kin salted. It nen sesipliate
ail line la
its
lam leiresi there no sail a
spina regilhe iitc7
Mar. bar) AM beer bas It lashed
psi. the poses ISM ISIS, sad 1519 P la that last pier
the seems pie* of nee we. 745. a pun (es we Inds
steed I will seuasen ea sena frees oilers treaty
• sups inn d_ . I nen the ladastry
base. lt .• nand " the Self Caatarf." le watts
by Mr. Win. alts boa. panne' thw read, anl6ll
lush acne sad hinneptin. ea attest. to the nt "
le Kay, Isl 7. 'drat was 58 In sat
ineeles
an by the sad of the year bed isansed la
124. a
ante pater. sad the remelt SAM
mann lassadierin, reds demeawee n IMO
Iseyie hr bread: easeenee sad mil* nth littrnay
Vies hewn% 36 sal et sae tine nee wen sew
Mae ef death he deft ; dal setae ef the OM= ill dr
awn eine ep with patios es the Prises Repot ; thst
le may ef the lees neeeneseries the fereesse sere pst
sat ; sad that is Leirmainbile sad Neatiebesaine
neasease Innen is enema mad that names
sea semen sanest weivenally pa- wi 1 Polities!
interbnese 11411Pla lb sten ef thiepose airy raw=
; tbe ken Ills se MS non
ow_ la Os wan die
brelskinstar= was
MI nested le heap dna tbefies Ii
wee alma enured
In evens bspe=wiatut ate on-street eseephan sad
rang nth the whin in te re-
sales whin Me be.. ifttialiVee peen tine; sad
I nen V
sash
am est at dated
has the estesineet the oo sera kwe MI& That law
*wed a probthlilvo duty ow want till the peke monad Ws.
tense. Whet ws• no state of the cosa whoa I sa-
llied thee been is 1511 Whole diarists try
Inseshire

mind ow pebbles be
401--idiabie Oise win hen bus dodged et the
dghtight at lambi ow/ hod Wish shell he wet Mewed se
ges belt huh Ye ea pullenaa
seadedsd MINIM =llllllldrijos et gi
Mr. BUTT ash is peel whet what he
seedasod the rode Noe elf be Nrsb whisk het
alba Am Mr. iblibu vie oimieue be du et a dishelse
slime either be salsa se WS. II • Wads his hp bat
bolassien. bobs • preleedoeht he anal net vete toe
elms wades, bed Ihe eosin gen is ft tee bin at say
seat to we that the 1161111,111 wade is Mr. Tilliene
meths be emitted.
Mr. OLAIMITONE, I bet se intrados et taidee
ast Mt We Obese. he Ow Ihe admirable shah a/
my neat toss. friend (Mr. S. lbellset)--atta the ebesnw
her which I thought were es July made by the mile
hard the whet he Luisa is the span et tin
Mar a Um ftellYi let me add,
man sesimbellos seal. after the soiskiag Whet,
ten and sediselle bee 0' the yeah EiLi:go.i
Mu Mend the flossuary tee the Haas
nu% rseams windy le pass by the Wen of
▪ Meoutlea whin has Muni Is she earessiset
et ihe ands.- who sew Mil the who et perm In
hen hoed Ina the lip of rise. pelisse the earhatter
ter the West Biding as appal le the thee Olio
Reber Ted ; as espeowles esliabemes his pert at
the even whisk they Yost le pone I sat seky,
eh& he Mimi. so unibelleed bow it was pa~wle slit
lisp .she ewes* is the gentles at hie web le be
amid r She sun Why with the party of pan-
da open* It ie lane hapsesible that ea this
suedes should set reueaL_ (Chen.) The reuse
erW ohm thh aeries, ass mimas d 111, Sobers Peel
will hued wain la tame et de emeadener
of the noble Amen% whelk h Mewls. seppened by hot
Mrpoits governosent sell flak hareem h bonus we M.
lin. eat veem to be disused by • reseed to the nisei* .1
leinzic (Chars ) I we sults Mak het the bee. awl
umber it Wehabempush, when be se
lease his neeleties, did e.hued le am mean be pessesdeles-
Wine werlhaeow es inerelese Isle Se whom ef oar
whiaire= Ineesher bs a nosebag be greeter
=ass the which►we eel sermenly
es. ireallWrina the euan tee hare
beard tonight tire the et the weeds li
e-.ps=
lee h n 6.1 Why Oahu less shudy le
pm mono= d hes hue alba •esupeausien."
I nut suet sashay tW Weft mesh Me busby with
the measles et as be relies et the boa. 'enthuse =ebbe) hat be pidell
se whisk we en to divide in Meth ides..
et we sup enviesed, ea the see hoed. bet the milieu
==
tar the rued at the sera here mole de-
t, whir hoed, an esaviesed bat se such
WOO sled/ be eehataieed (Chews.) I hold that tree
seleed suesnweisa et the werds la the eushaties fle-
eted* pound is it peedhle le delouses& ea hareem.
The Nei b.ly ea the het that yea had theses edam
ties thes the repeal of the is laws wes het. Bet surely
warts potbelly ponibie Oft this or Nay other yea sesa-
shy be jest, Wed le kaperatinly sad. beineely
regrind by s prier:leis of Junes, sad rot that from
its episodes then might collaterally arise dame for relief
—aye, eves he eampeseatiOa—(eosin frees the minima/dal

been drawn up without great eonsultation with a great
amber ad his friends. A. bon. member said that "too
, MY, *sae spoiled the broth." (Laughter.) WeU, per-
' stills thee might have bees the case, but • great number M
=rnsbe bees consulted. He was bowed to tell the
to the hoese—(chatrs)—because some verya=
things had ken said 'bout him. He bad been
midi haling hearoght forward a resolutiou without—writ:
Medan' peobsdest--• most ungenerous resolution, and
one that hart the feelings of honourable gentlemen.
Now if he had been guilty of all these things he had to
spoicrimfor them, fur they were very carious imputations.
He was sot aware, however, of any person who bad east
smelt hope tationa upon the mover of the resolution that bad
not peen himself • party to it. (Loud cheers.) There was
a great distinction, as everyone w0u1d..., between the ex-
pediency of • resolution—wheker Mist referred to words or
Mem:manors—and its character. Now the resolution was
agreed to before the ainenduieut; and if the former was so
imperfect, nay, so perfectly objectionable in its principle and
charaner, then it was as Muth so before the amendineut was
proposed as after. Before the amendment was proposed
it hid 'sees referred to the right hon. gentleman
who had spoke. last, sod he did not say that it was
exceitioueble. (Cheers.) Ile referred at also to the
nobly lord (Lord Palmerston), and he considered that a
in in of his experience, if there had been anything tinge's.
tletntalike or unparliamentary in the resolution, would
have pointed it out to him, • young man—or at least a
louqg man compared with him. (Cheers.) The noble
ord did point out something in the origioal motion to
whit% he objected, and that he (Ilr. Villiers)
irmandistely altered. (Loud cheers.) He did not say
that he smote lord had not proposed • more expedient re-
solution to be carried by this hoses ; but he could nut d is-
tiagiish much between the two so far as strength of len-
ges'. west. lodeed he had heard it said that
night that the amendment contained even stronger
laugiage, and therefore he thought he had so
far et himself right. He did not think it con-
tained any offensive langasge ; and his only ob-
ject was to ermine what had been so emphatically
admitted by the first minister sod re-echoed by the right
boa. gentleman opposite, who had said that there was
an overwhelming majority in favour of free trade.
(Cheers.) The hon. member for Cambridanhire had
denied that free trade had produced any of the results such
se those stated in the resolution; and si there had been a
bomjedo amendment, that would have been perfectly fair
and perfectly intelligible. (Cheers.) Every man, how. '
ever, who went out against the motion would, in effect,
declare that what had effected such improvement in the '
tounitlen of the people,wes not wise and beneficial. (Cheers.)
A od this brought hint to another q ttestiott—w hy was this done?
They bad Ist the at out of the bag* they had disclosed the
secret. (Cheers.) They said in effect —" We have some-
thing behind the curtein—some compensation ; we want to
fulfil what we have promised. We will Ave you • substi-
tute fur protection. Trust :we have always done you
some good at the expense of the Community, and will do it
regain. (Cheers.) If you believe we deceived you,
trust as again, and we wall find a substitute for protection
that will do as well." (Cheers.) It was for no other reason
bet to exclude conspensotion that the words, " wise, just,
and beneficial" were inserted in the resoletioa. (Cheers.)
Mr. Drummond had admitted that there was nothing to
the resolution but what the house might properly be celled
upon to 'farm, but said he should net vote for it, lest his
constituents should misconstrue his eeuduct. Would he not
then make some allowsum II he (Mr. Villiers) declined to
withdraw his resolutom ? (Hear.) What had been the
coarse of the discussion ? The members opposite had avowed
that they did not think the free trade measures were just,
and that protection ought to have been kept. Two minis-
tent of the crown (Mr. Walpole and Sir J. Paints:o) bad
avowed that they did not think the free trade measures were
lest. They is effect said they were not epeeist...4, but then
*owed to a necessity. (Cheers.) The speech of Mr. 8.
Herbert was one of the most extraordinary he bad ever
heard. It was one of the most passim ; for be had de-
clared that the mason of 1848 had saved lie from a novo-
lades in 1818, that it was the justerit measure that ever
could be reseed, and under the circurna•Sneee the wisest ;
still he would vote in favour of the amendment. He (Mr.'
Villiers) had no sinister object in proposing the resolution
•
and if any member objected to it who had been free traders,
sad who stilt thought that the repeal of the corn laws was
wise, jest, and beneficial, be was entitled to say that they
had ulterior views. Hs perfectly understood the °Nee.
Lion to the resolution. All parties agreed that there ought
to bs a resolution ; his resolution declared the fns trade
measures to be tt wise," rte. ; and he appealed to thews on
his side of the house who had been advocates of free trade
to support It. (Cli.iers.) He proposed the words, not out
of respect to Sir Robert Peel, but because he thought Mom
tree sad applicable. (Cheers.)
Viscount PALMERSTON-112'1v hon. and learned
friend has mentioned a dramatises chick occurred be-
tween himself and me, perhaps the house will Indulge me
for a monseet. It is perfectly true, as be stated, that one
evening towards the end of the week be showed men draft
M the resolution be was about to propose. I considered he
showed it to me to eseenain whether it was framed in sub
a sunset es I could vote for It. I pointed out a part to
whist I said I could not commit myself. I argued it at
mom length with him; and that passage was not head in
Ms isolation as permed. The resolution wee laid upon
dis table. Immediately ladies was given of en smendlmest
es the t of the government I them mete to ay las. sad
lassaadfriend; I think I said that I pears' dee oldsnden
of the governante was founded spin a mationlew ported ids
tosslnnem I stated that I wassony to see that • modem
Malt ems isteedodi to bad to • solemn allnnatisa by par-
liament Ma great petodpie M domain paltry wee about to
digammits into • sure ordinary party straggle. (Cheers
Ibsen the ministerialists) Aid I -payed my hon. sad
leaned Need to eadsmonrE by oestemmiestion with the
is ism mum Itom et wade whisk might be
mbi mionimmely ley a majori of
thaittetpi
ni
.ht and loused Mend peat ty
that he would
see me la sibmense in the hoses. I smidaw him, and we
talked over the matter; sad, without stating the particu-
lars of that eamminneeek it may be enough for me to say
that what Menai ms ems left upon my Wed dm Immo.
don that be was aft mann of his own semdest, sad that
he was in the hands stable persona._ (land sheen from
the gonammens lesmiss.) It is thershos am fide for my
he siedleareed blond ft lead AO hamto engross that l
led now hi lhal_part of the twolutios which led
to the —tird I made me objection till I moved
my residotiss. I undessised he was perfectly at Motto
make whit me be pleased et that reeolstios, sad to w
ands rad It to whom be Mod. (Loud sneers .trio the
beerisliste.)

lets)--sod son fie It wen he isepoesithe to vent ' It may
be just he aid* a enerare. but at the same Haw it may
b• viShe Se esonnitio to the holder. It 1888 just
,„,____,__t• en setei negro slaves; bat parliament
.1001•4188„ tha it was just to give eomponsittion to
Sim WOO had ben the masters of thew slaver. Do not
Merlillaillti Oat 1 am ewes, lag ea opinion that these Sr.
"VIM_
__l ID IM ogee. lem only showing that
W wain ea 11111 nail and truly arequal to bear the'
88•88 Mehes agate, ( r. Cobden) his sought to put
ape. them. I speak with the utmost deferenee to the opinion
of that hon. gentleman os the gannet' of free trade I do'
on
fared, sad I do not undervalue, the services which he
has rendered to that great cause (Loud cheers) Agree'
with him to general policy or do sot—compiling of him
yea may, if yea think you have cause, in the exercise of
the filmdom of debate, of the breadth and fires with
whin he ocessiosally states his views in this house; but it
L impossible fur us, I thigh, a. the free trade party, to
deny that these animist hinging', the existence of which
we are all acknowlodgiog, are in no small degree, at any
rate, due to thaw laboars in which the honourable
goatlessaa took so distinguished a share. (Loud cheirs.)
And therefore it is from no desire to depreciate the praise
he has go fairly earned that I venture to differ front the
course that he has declared his tatention to take. The die-
tioction that may fairly be taken appears to be this. The
Secretary of State fur the Home Department has fairly
told us that we, I. 1856, did that which was not just la re-
pealing the corn laws; but if I understood the right hos.
gelatin's* right, he thinks it expedient and just that the
system thea established should be maiatainel. Then if I
ondentaad we are tainted, I do not speak of thew who go
with the hon. gentleman who his last addressed us, but of
ad of us who will combine in voting for the resolution of
my noble friend, not only that we ought to submit
as • choice of evils to free tribe, bat that we wi.l
adopt it es a system. And Ima aot one of those who ques.
son the justice of repealing the ecru law in 1846, yet we
aro now resolved to adopt it, not from • noesesity to submit
to an iron yoke, but from a sense that its maintenaust is
wise, just, and beatific's!. And if that he so, the differ-
ence Itemises us is this—that those who support the reso-
lution, insist that at the cad of 183/ we shall travel back to
1846 ; that we shall revive and renew the circumstances
that then ended ; that we go back to a position from
which we have advanced, and this for the purpose of pre.
veutiog as united aud uverpowering expresaion of opinion
is dell'arte of the principles of free trade. And I venture
to put it, with great coundence, to the hon. and learned
genties um, that in the moieties that he is now proposing
to the how*, he is taking • step and adopting a form of
longue's, so farm my knowledge go-s, entirely without
whanivotary precedent. It is a matter of the highest
importance, as it appears tome, that we should not be re-
eponsiblu for giving in our own panne, in our own con
duct or words, any 'maniple that we hereafter be quoted
adi precedent, to warrant that to which he would not be
hereafter bound in the political warfare of this country.
Now, 1 do nut mean to say that there has not been a ma
Wask in its purport similar to this, but 1 put it to the
Musa and I put it to those who have esprond a deter.
Mination to VOW for this resolution, that (berets no ease in
nine the house has supported such • mobilises. A case
Ins bsommematwa.d in this nighesdebata, thecam which was
=y knowa as the appropriation clause. I tiler to it
tithe stigmas% desire to revive the bitterness CO..
eseled with it. The noble lord the member for London,
who in the coarse of his long caner has so often and so
frig been the champion of causes which he has seen ad.
canoe to victory, can well afford to have a matter alluded to
M which his efforts have been honed ; but we all remember
that after he had ousted Bir Hubert Peel from Mike in 1835,
red alter he had cuostrue ad his own goverameut, the
coarse ho took with toluenes to the appropriation clean.
He fought his battle inaidully for several yew., and rodeo,
wore/ to Induce parliament to adopt the views
which he had embodied in an abstract rwelutioa. The
noble lord is 18.11 was obliged to give way.
He had carried • recitation that the surplus revenues of
tile church iu Ireland should be applied to the purposes act
edacatiou. He then tworel rosoluUsios for the settlement
of ne tithe question not soataining any project tow apply
the surplus ; and his hoa. friend the member for Devoe-
shire then submitted • motion, as it appeared to hies, in
spirit approsimating to this resolution, toot was to solemnly
monad toe resolution that had bee* before agreed to.
And what was the answer of the noble lord ? Hs said,
" You have obtained your point, the legislation will be is
your view ; but do not ask this house SO stigmatise Its
termer resolution, do not ask the goveramest to Otifilli•
Om its former aot." And soother noble lord said, " You
are not coatent with oar having reversed our course
bat you want as to reverse our words." That appeal was
saeasestuL Now, sir, I trait that, notwithstanding is-
dividaal ispiratioas, and the extraordlaary prolongauest of
the eealict we aro now closing, that • similar spint of mo-
deration mad forties:saw will will predominate in this
hers; and I fairly tell the hos. gentleman, the member
for the West %disc that these is no faros at all in his ap-
peal to me when he quotas the SUN of Sir It. Peel, nut
sesames that awe is not precious is ay eye, but berme
I ma envision that is giving my vote for the resolution of
my Debbi need,ihat we are taking the loves which would
have bees the nesse of Si, R. Peet himself. It honour
sad guW be he his tollowen, an if we are Ws followers we
WII endloasear to imitate that which was the charactoristie
of Um mm. No doubt Sir Hobert Peel, when he severed
W the ef 33 years, felt this price he was paying is the per-
fereeseas of has ditty. It was so small matter is a life like
his to been up its habits and aseemtion He looked, por-
ter his revenge, bat for what revenge did he
t He did not seek to Sadism his esodust
by missing speeches and motion in favour of him
if they bore a sews el mortidealiss to the mine el
kmiseahle mea. TM ebellinelea this he looked to am
Mis—he knew the widen ef Me amt. he knew that then
who append tbs. would askssidedge then, after afar
rinse; be ban he see nest menidiehed ins the esteem sal
sound pulpiest el in sammypsitimis tenni to an then Is
slew hat sees Munn lie of *my maim la the
civilised weds Ma sins dean she mold have his es-.
ward, Area of al4 Is the salmeatiel pea that he was ea
iastranien he Or bads ef Peniimes Is sashes ; es.
madly, is the rispatetioa that he knew wasid be lie oft
appropriate reward ; and as to the ansemorasye wham po
poonsioam he might feel he was thwarting, lea isselesed
that, with prophetic foresight, he would antielpete the des
woes the very nee who reviled him wean sinew-
ledge that sever was eppeeitioes leaguers as ill
deserved ; that those vary men In are seven
of time Irani see that be had rendered them
• great and ensatimi AlleMel 7, hae, while with the
sin pewee of hie_ geneameat he propmed the repeal of
the men laws, he believed that throe win a mend eau%
that the sziesearsep el liaglaal was es *moat is Use mail
Ilia whhi the welfare of the swestey was
Xre =
emmi spa sod with him therehos it wee a
es Mee amuse. It was a sams whiithedi hem
"MA tidos-
wish imptillat knowlightledge sod with nemeses views.
bat lathe egos of d appeared, mad was every
day essawing men sad mere In he view ef ths
pan of Yr seemessaity,tbe ammeter of what wee sor=i
what was Mee. He setirdpated, I an esolliwn Oben
hkeedlei rewards which yogi have bees bemeeorable mid
wr»s in, had it pleated God to spare bin, whisk
mspraloissod deligatful to them who slain
Mailed le Mat malt, and le se who had the
privilege of by his aide, mad who me
Ala
SO se ever washed to Ms . He
to ft the ilme as we are sew serivileTam, we
ago seleleming Me sheigmbs of the Monism poilissy*.tat=
soaks. daise the pelisy thee
wee admitted se be ng
thee
emphatially fee the Mheoab of the
ensany. Let es who lesil• amhdly Ise bee mede—be
an esammrar lee pas away hem aumedess all hells. M
mink the gt paths geed whisk we home hem molded
se my mg he my ewers la she sehdamme et lOW geed
be so ensmaimpanew te as In the perhnomes of pales
asp la terse _ (Chests.)
Ma 311/11WDZGATI rote maid lead ides et " divide."
Hs seed he Ind adormatedi what Is immiliered 10 he es
same el jostle& The lea. amembss As the Welt=
tarsi
bed mid net if
he assail were dine Msame the
haven naiad get up roshee agleam as Moo
hoe se thus whisk gee seeded ea with smapest te the ISM
hoes. Hs hod mid that the boa. eromine he the Wise
Man was a hl
me
wish agssimill is hems
ea atelment. new begged me nem *ism empleadem
Yee Massif he bed eminent the pawns plemeael kisammis
ham Mr Heber: Pod. wile had*ail Me reqedidso Se
him (Mr. Newel/gey
l es Mad he Honk Warwielibs.
Ma bad foll ied lb m
Ms spieler se him ea th=4
ef sem Ism ; and elan send hew aa
whims ashen is HMS meld have afforded the alphabet.
Wane m little 1111111/1111. He (Hr. Newdegaeo) wadi am
asheil Is the *panties that be had bees pmerpit
se that ke had boa is the ham
sauna
(lb. Oehdes) lad. right le be ewer
aloe aOs the Inas applied le Mem. fee belted Mat rimy
sighs elperilemi the. (the emotestleedeso win
soled Ihmlernad he might almost map mmdmaksettir h.i
vibeffy le same the "premise whisk he had
te he'. meratne. sod whim in hit as
=sale erne Ins If my peed should be. the
elevessmearimM gasp. IS weld he be aorta-
tag the hes. imelemma if the plea he red at the kestiage
Ire wahreirkg eve imillathaa (Divide.) Mr. Newdegme
esosioded by Skokie Len Palmentes. sad by esearimg
him than if it were posabis hr ten to have voted fee • kee-
ned. reeslatio he ekeold have supported the menedasat.
As it was he 161111111 leave the hems.
Mr. VILLIZILI rase amain Mad sass of " withdraw "
is repl).__ Ha mewed the hmun Mai he mold aft abuse
Me pallier mended to the never el • resetutlea. he kis
remerke would have mimeses ealy te himself; but !swished
to mobs a hw ebservatiess fa similarities) et him maim
end et Isis deem (Chews.) He ss posmiss them
SO Ille would be the bet amass ea whisk he 4514
Zirla MI dressier, or as ,ha Mynah et a mann of
sigad sa bold( et mesas wbo did mot quite = ..—.—...........
apes the stillest (Cheers and 'mightier.) He was
be led an ham oil molested 10f the purses* (Mom.) DOM/VIM Flu lti HALWAX.—Os Friday
He had bets dress lit a IMMO whisk had bees mired is mooing het, a vast inegalar ma of building, onsistiag
Me mane of Meilen ; sad that wm, if he night WOW, ef a wales Willa,
a weasel milk sad a en= sent mill, were as my se nosh he lisself, breams he had beams the OW welly thieboyed by lea at MINA nom Hawn. The week
alias einem* ef semen seamen* he a ems% Mae, be- of deminualso hippo • III& Mhos six Wok& la the mora-
inal* he bad • siegs ia view, and beam he wee leg, end had le eel* la Ike third storey of the mums sew, as semi bessusalds mig. when s inmootbsa lightlag It up simian the arrival
igarigireasd mooeo le say, who Vora., Oils werkpleghs_ pmmitted • -match to fall spin isms
W_
alma wish say Milner poripese. (Lind Memel " sates ly," embh immegkedy laatina bans jab a
low tlet hod hem kis maislestme—omphare)..itesaress he Mum All saheb le ms gum wore mainmaiL•
W bees seleind apes that moles te min Ms intim and the mediae demi* wanted with aH. had bees requessid se move the resslstimm sad he bad the week el dendltisa wan emsaligs7. The mils Imes
ems bezeir the *Mk* lathe me*, is Mm side :=lmmly gutted Is Ore laumeb by whisk tine nee Mho MOs sailmeals. wee. Ile bad Warbim pre- Is the Haas mil Leigtaley Amines, pond was la anordesse with Ms awn MONA and Osmpsaybstrand hen HMOs. bat Me late se be et
with what be billowed were these of the rodiegir and ef eop,ansatial envies. Th• were ste "open a
the wholes/ rutty. (Cheers.) That was hie peshies. As Mem A. end C. Pi of mad, who VSB be had said lam *ht. be bed set the credit of babe the ends& so the woollen till, bat the ether reams were let
author alike ms m. but be esetaialy bad smoothies Is de elle teams.. It is estimated that the done is bir with It, end he leek the whet respeasibility of it tweets 4,0001. end 6,0001., tie we of wdZin yerptaisidy
upon hinialL (pans.) It had Weighed that it bed not onseed by imarame.

Kr. GLADITO3II I au boned to request the indul-
ges*. et the beam he • purpose similar to that of my made
Mee& mod I - Ise eves mote ferbearamps. If we are to
be pat nee $ ewe bee-hive with reference to all proceed.
lap stomata[ with the formation of those resolution, I
ma only say Sere is mot a word I have spoken or written
that will aft be mainly as dm minim of the beam.
(tthserej in I thin& ft pradesa ram the seme-
n say pocket. (Chores. mod Mai of " "
=ditillargoverameat basin) Al Mat I AM! magi I
b Pit t being swan of the agingeas Ada et missester-
ig Mithat oda Is these augaplicated absei
I woe eggelal eadedi xt: magma the letalZ
4allesea. of anyedag the most bravo.,_,ThTd elgeo mho la the whets et lie
As te that whisk I gam Ihirly gall the
the:tepar 'ma wilt ase, I nest
whims lase detail, that I Wiese the wades
Ska of this huge at the 12 stele& sit-
-14
ea Wallassday, Me Ink of N sad that on
Tomesitty, tbe lin of November. at Ma if I wrote a
Is the hes. mad lensed gattlegma, andlansiiMay
it to the address from int& be bed weittea to
a dematifsa d
teem et tile suelaties la the praise
pin at abletal haw **O to it legslita. ga the mead
Sat they weghl pawed begsA vein lath big neap sees
)
ea% allpolly swami Is eseadaw repea4 had
due baagarghly gad dam* anima is and aseepted
(fteate.
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Mr. VILCIERB maid that then was ad a ward
tibial bad hike his. his bat send be
*them ((Ass.) All be staid wee Est the noble let
saw the resdatisa with theta Wes whisk he bad eines
esweldsmil se shketienable. ad whisk did set thee strike
W dies kid la Ed Egin. (01sisen) Everything AO
walk lord hd idled as Is what had lahsapieisNa.. the
earadssat wan pet ea the dew was marred
Me Value) led never said myth*, abed Ali
who WI said was. Om it thus isms woe diediseable
en ewe tiasighe: were es at torteher. (Load shassa)
bd
Elm the t ben. pathos. sided was pain*is dr-
sad ha to aratim ft* Imo 1101 mid
kegs Ed he wards were deeded he lha aspaen kia
pewee.
es•• *bum. seetinea the Oiseedirefibe lasbeteer
amii, ef rnleg hoe. pedesala aerie heea vides he
ale. lad thee le Ole. Tahoe) seated la We
reply Ihet ea wee heesetee Wanted his iseedeg
th• ward.. (Elsa; War.)

TM beeps this divided, whoa Mete appeared—
AssTer Mr.sse Villiers's make
Majority SO
The Isms again divided en Lord Palatentoa's ElO4lOll,
whoa tilers "

ac—
For Lord Pahasisiss's modes
ASWAN a
Wierlty la favour of Lard Prlraersiss's notion 416
The bows dm adisarard at 2 Vida&

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Mr. PITO paired with Sir E. GOOCH in favour of
Mr. Vaitores mocha.