The Express.
London, England, 1852-06-16 00:00:00

front the let of April, 1849, to the let of February, 1832,
there were 23 cases connected with crimes growing
oat of this ounfederaey, and 17 of those cases includ-
ing several murders, not one of the parties were brought
to /twice. Yet thatcounty was otherwise very peaceable
and quiet. It was not the number of crimes, but their
character, which was chiefly to he considered ; and the
member of agrarian crimes in 1851 was nearly double the
number in 1847. These were the crimes in which the Rib-
bon confederacy engaged--a standing confederacy, which
rixtended to Mtneliester, Birmingham, Glasgow, and to
almost every place where there was any supposed grievance
to be redressed. The Sheriff of Louth was examined as to
the intimidation of juroni, and said he had no doubt that m
anything like a remote district if a man had been on a jury
by which a prisoner bad been convicted his life wu mot
see. This declaration, he said, was founded on his own
,personal knowledge and experience. If the constabulary
were taken away from such districts, and the confederacy
allowed to have arms, what would be the post- ,
tioa of those poor men who were oblixed to give
a verdict according to the evidence? (Rear, hear.)
Sir Matthew Barrington had written to him declaring that
he considered it absolutely necessary to cuntiaue the act ;
and it was his (Mr. Napier'e) belief that its continuance
would prevent many fatal outrages. All he asked was, that
it should be continued until the 31st of December next,
leaving the question of its further continuance to be decided
by the next parliament.
Mr. LAWLESS should oppose the introduction of such
a bill, unaccompanied by any measure for ameliorating the
condition of Ireland.
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Mr. F. SCULLY conside►ed it unfair to introduce the
bill before the evidence which had been taken by the
committee was in the hands of members. He opposed
the bill further on the ground of the severity of its
provisiowi, anal because the outrages against which it
was directed arose from the disordered relations between
landlord and tenant, for which remedial measures had
been promised in 1847, but the promises had not yet been
redeemed.
Mr. S. CRAWFORD likewise called fur remedial mea-

lure. before coercive ones were enacted The whole cause
of agrarian outrages in Ireland, he believed, was to be found
in the disordered relations between landlord and tenant.
Mr. C. ANSTEY also opposed the hill, contending that
no grounds had been offered for a measure of that descrip•
Lion. As to Ribbonism it would not touch it, and there
the only feasible reason fell to the ground. Besides, he
objected to the practice of coming to parliament to ask for
a previous indemnity. Let the Irish executive act on its re-
sponsibility, and if it acted rightly the courts of law
would sustain it. The branding of arms was an incon-
venience to the innocent, and no check on the guilty
Neither were domiciliary visits of any use, as it was well
known that houses had often been thrown open at night to
supposed policemen, who having obtained an entry, turned
out to be whiteboys. (" Divide.") He knew why gentle.
men cried out" Divide." It was very well known that
her Majesty's ministers had mode arrangements for a count
out at 6 o'clock, and he would not gratify them, unless they
promised not to press this objectionable bill. Ile should
move that this debate be now adjourned.
The motion not being seconded fell to the ground.
Mr. KEOGH complained that the present government,
notwithstanding former professions, had introduced no
measures for the redress of the grievances of Ireland, ex-
cept this coercive measure, against the severe penalties of
which he inveighed. Ile disputed the accuracy of the sta-
tistics of crime adduced by Mr. Napier, which were at
variance with a recent official return laid before the com-
mittee, showing a decrease of crime; and contended that
no case had been made out for a bill like this, which, he
observed, taught landlords in Ireland to rely upon the
legislation of that house instead of, as in England, upon
their own conduct.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER denied that
this was a measure of coercion it was a measure of police,
which was expiring, and the condition of Ireland required
its continuance. With respect to remedial (measures
such measures, ho said, had been already prepared by the
government ; but he asked whether any member, looking
at the position of the ministry and the temper of the house
generally in the transaction of public business, could really
say that it had been in their power to introduce them.
The government could not incur the responsibility of letting
this act expire, which would release great criminals; but
the bill was to continue only until next December, so that
the subject must be reconsidered in the ensuing parliament.
The house then divided :
For bringing in the bill l4O
Against
The bill was accordingly brought in and read a first time.
PETITIONS FROM THE CITY OF LONDON.

The CorruaLL and Swim brought up to the
bar two petitions, agreed to in common council assembled
from the City of London; the one in favour of Jewish
Emancipation, and the second praying that the law apply.
fag to steam furnaces may be applied to the steamers navi-
gating the Thames.
On the motion of Mr. DISRAELI, the house at d o'clock,
adjourned to 7 o'clock.
The house resumed at 7 o'clock.
I'ETI I'lolo.

INSPECTION or NrNsrocrs.—By Sir. LACY, from
Camberwell, for.
COMMON LAW PROCEDVRE BILL.-By Mr. COWAN,
from Edinburgh, against.
VENTILATION OF THE HOUSE.
Mr. HINDLEY begged to ask the Chief Commissioner of
Works, what course the government intend to pursue in
reference to the report and recommendation of the com-
mittee on the ventilation and lighting of the house; and
whether Dr. Reid is to be restored to the position be occu-
pied before 1816, and to have the charge of ventilating and
lighting the house and its appurtenances, under the super-
vision of the Chief Commissioner of Works, assisted by a
committee of observation, to be appointed annually by the
house, in order to report their opinion as to the way in
which the management is conducted ?
Lord J. MANNERS replied that in the opinion of the
government the recommendation of the select committee
is wise and prudent, and there was every disposition on
their part to carry those recommendations into effect.
With regard to the second part of the hon. member's ques-
tion, with reference to the competent person who was to
be appointed in accordance with the recommendation of
the committee, it was not possible at present to state who
that competent parson in the opinion of the government
ought to be. His own individual opinion was that the
system of ventilation adopted by Dr. Reid had not received
that amount of fair play which was necessary to come to a
decision on its merits.