The Express.
London, England, 1863-05-20 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, MAY 20, 1863.

England were prepared to make= to the Mugu, • pnted the estimation of neutral obligaticee given by Lord
whilst they were prepared to go any lengths Palmerston.
they might think fit in the direction of the Mr. PEAOOCKE complained that the Foreign, Colonial,
church of Rome. And what had taken place since? Why War, and Naval Departments were not represented in that
that the clergy were prepared to go greet lengths in favour house by the beads of the respective offioes,
of liberty of opinion, and it was needless to say in what Mr. LAYARD replied to Mr. Peacock°, and other sub-
direction that liberty had tended. He would mention no jects became mixed in the discussion, including the recent
names whatever ; but they had been told of proceedings debate on China, the regulations by which naval courts of
being instituted against more than one reverend person of inoyyairy were governed, the censure passed by the Board of
the church of England for declaring opinions which were Admirvty upon Lord Elphinstorie, of her Majesty's ship
alleged to be contrary to the church of En • and Vigilant, and the course taken in the inquiry into his non-
though
not from themselves, yet they bad beard from their duct (a subject which was dismiss/did some length), a stale.
friends by means of letters in the newspapers, meet in Irish papers of a meeting of Irish members, con-
that it was maintained to be little leas than veiled by Sir R. Peel, on the subject of the Irish Salmon
persecution that any legal process should be indituted Fisheries, to which meeting other members, representing
against any clergyman of the church of England for advo- large interests in connexion with the fisheries, were not in-
citing any opinions whatsoever. It was not of course main- vited (the discussion of this matter being marked by some
Mined that any amount of difference of opinion was ad- rather eccentric features), and the condition of the lumina
miscible, but that any legal process of this kind was in the trade.
nature of persecution. Now eo far from seeing anything The motion for adjournment was at length agreed to.
like tion in these attempts, whether they were sue- . Mr. DILLWYN moved for a select committee to hi-
nt or not, to proceed against clergymen by law, he • quire bow far the present distribution of endowments for
thought the church of England had very much cause religious purposes throughout Ireland may be so amended se
to be alarmed at the absolute and unbounded liberty most to conduce to the welfare of all classes of her Majesty's
which was claimed on behalf of clergymen of the church of Irish subjects. He stated his belief that some attempt at
England. • dealing with the temporalities of the Irish church must be
The Bishop of OXFORD did not believe that this declare- made ; and though he was of opinion that it was a task for
tion did keep any conscientious man out of the church. He government, as the present ministry did not take it up, it
thought he was entitled to emelt from his peculiar con- was neceesary to bring the question before parliament. He
nation in hie own see with a great number of young men who contended that the Irish church was a source of great weak-
were preparing at the university to enter the church, and nem to this country, and was an unsuccessful institution.
he thought he might add that there were very few of his Mr. H. SEYMOUR moved, as an amendment, that a
right rev. brethren who were addressed by so many young royal commission might issue for purposes specified in his
men who were about to take holy orders as he was, notice of motion.
He had consulted several of his right rev. brethren, and' Mr. WHITESIDE argued that the church in Ireland re-
they informed him that they knew of many scruples which presented the cause of government, order, liberty, and
had detained young men from taking holy orders, but they truth ; and that if it was the case that it was the church
never knew of one practical instance of a young man who in of the minority, that was the very reason why it should be
consequences of fVtuples arising from this particular declera- maintained, with a view to the preservation of its great ob.
tion was prevented from entering the church. He believed jects ; and he showed that there bad been a large increue
it was • mistake to 'lmpure that this declaration had misled i •of churches in Ireland sincethe union, and especially of
anyone. He believed the main reason of there being a di- late years.
minution, as observed in the public prints, in the num- I Mr. B. OSBORNE moved the adjournment of the debate.
bee of young men entering holy orders, was owing to the Mr. DILLW YN hoped the government would give him
numerous new paths into which parents were led to direct , and his friends an assurance that they should have a night
the views of their eons. I for the discussion of this question. (Laughter, and cries of
The Bishop of LLANDAFF said that if the amendment I "Go mi.")
of the mast rev. prelate were adopted no concession what- Lord PALMERSTON said that the government could not
ever would be granted to those scruples which undoubtedly undertake to gam the hon. gentleman a day. No doubt
did exist in very many minds ; and that he thought WI/ a I the hon. gentleman would very readily find a day for the
result which could not be desired by their lordships. He I discussion. (laughter.)
could, therefore, have wished that some course had been I Mr. MONSELL said that he did not exactly understand
snwsted intermediate between the motion of the noble lord 111 what fell from the noble lord. Were the government pre-
and the amendment of the most rev. prelate. He thought I pared to give his bon. friend a day? (Several voices from
that in the 36th canon language might be found which i the ministerial bench, "No.") Then he recommended his
would go far to remove the scruples of those who certainly her. friend to give notice of his intention to continue the
did stumble at the womb "my unfeig ed assent and consent debate on the first supply night. (Hear, hees.)
to everything contained in this book.' Mr. DILLWYN said he had no objection to that course.
The Bishop of CASHEL thought that their lordships, (Laughter.)
before they effected that change in the Acts of Coffer- Mr. OSBORNE gave notice that on the first night of
mity which was really required,were in want of a body which going into committee of supply he should make a motion on
shouldfairlyrepresentthevieweof thechnrch onthisquestion. the subject of the Irish church. (Hear, hear.)
Earl GREY said be could not help observing that the Several HON. Memetae—W hen ?
speech of the right rev. prelate (the Bishop of Llandaff) Mr. OSBORNE—On the 28th of May.
had furnished a strong argument in favour of the second The debate was then adjourned.
reading of this bill. What was the title of the measure ? CASE OF MR. REECE.
An Act to amend the Acts of Uniformity. He thought, Sir R. CLIFTON, who had given notice of a motion for
therefore, that by agreeing to the second reading, their lord- the production of correspondence relating to the removal
ships would be simply affirming the acknowledged principle, of Mr. Reece from the Queen's Weeminsters, said be would
that the Acts of Uniformity required amendment, leaving it postpone his motion till the 2nd of June.
open to any noble peer to propose such views as he might con- CIVIL COURTS (IRELAND). BILL.
eider reasonable in committee. He could not help expressing Sir R. PEET, moved for leave to bring in a bill on the
the extreme pleasure with which he had listened to the speech subject of the civil courts in Ireland.
of the right rev. prelate who had spoken early in the even. Mr. HF/INiffISY linked the right hon. baronet to ax-
ing (the Bishop of London). But he must also say that
even that eloquent sod able speech went along way toon c- plain the object of the bill.
Sir R. PEEL said that it would be highly inconvenient
vine him (Earl Grey) of the necessity of some such DM' at that hour (half-pest twelve) that he should go into a de-
sure as that which was now before their lordships' house,
The mere fact that prelates when consulted by young men tailed explamtion of theme asure. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. HEN NE2BY said he feared be most divide the
who had doubts had removed those doubts by the explana- house on the question ; but the motion war ultimately
tiom they gave them showed that the necessity for this mea- „Ems to without a division.
sure was MOOD urgent than he had supposed, for nothing
in AFRICAN SLAVE TRADE TREATY.
could be more demoralising or more corrupting than the en-
Viscount PALMERSTON moved for leave to bring in a
°Garaging of young men to make solemn declarations a bill to carry into effect an additional article to the treaty of
non-natural sense. (Cheers.) the 7th of April, 1862, between her Majesty and the
Lord EBURY, in reply, expressed his 'willingness to United
.States of America, for the suppression of the African
adopt any other form that might be thought more desirable.
slave
trade.
Their lordships then divided on the second rending :
50 Agreed to.
ContentsNon-oontents 9O-40 POOR REMOVAL (No. 3).
Mr. VILLIERS moved for leave to bring in a bill for the
So the bill was thrown out. further amendment of the law relating to the removal of
The Redemption of Rents (Ireland) Bill was committed pow p.c.., natives of Ireland, from
pro forma. Agreed to.
The Marriages, bc., Ireland Bill was read a third time, DISTRICT PAROCHIAL CHARITIES (IRELAND)
and, with amendment', passed. BILL
The Stock Certificates to Bearer Bill and the Customs
This In7l was read a second time.
and Inked Revenue Bill were severally read a second
time, and the housesadjournedat ten minutes to 8 o'clock to HARWICH HARBOUR BILL
ThtUaday. This ball was read a second time.
SALMON FISHERIES (SCOTLAND) ACT CON-
TINUANCE BILL.
This bill was read a third time and
The house adjourned at 10 minutes passed.
1 o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—TuraDAY, MAT 19.

The Simacmi took the chair at four o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The Bream Junction Railway Bill was reed • third time
end passed. MEETING OF CONVOCATION.—Yesterday morning
both Houses of Convocation assembled at Westminster for
BRITISH CLAIMS ON PORTUGAL. the tnisaactioe of business. In the Upper Houma the Arch-
Mr. AYRTON asked the Under.ffecrotery of State for bishop of Canterbury presided, and there were present the
Foreign Affairs whether her Majesty's government had Bishops of Leaden, Winchester, St. David's, Oxford St.
made any representations to the government of Portugal Aeaph, Lincoln, Salisbury, Bangor, Lundell, and man.-
with regard to the claims of various British subjects wbo or- ter. It was ordered that an address should lie presented to
vested their money, by request of the Minister of Public the Prince and Princess of Wales on their marriage. Many
Works of that country, in an undertaking called the Union r :--
tstorob were presented in reference to Bishop Colenso a
Mercantile Company, the stock of which is xuaranteed,__
has
rook, praying the house to take synodical action in the
royal decree, and by acts of the legislature ;II so, whet itre matter. A long discussion took place in reference to foreign
been the result of those representations, and whether there chaplaincies, and the advisability of appointing a bishop for
would be any objection to lay say papers upon the table their superintendence. In the Lower House there was a
connected with those claims. large attendance of members. A report was brought up
Mr. LAYARD maid that her Majesty's government bad from a committee appointed to investigate the contents of
made representation. to the government of Portugal in re- Bishop Oolenso's book. The report entered with much tul-
ip/A to these claims. It appeared that certain British sub- nee into the cootenta of the book, which it condemned as
puts inverted considerable sums of motley in the Union mischievous and dangerous. The report was adopted, and
Mercantile Company with the understanding that the money conveyed to the Upper House.
and the interest were guaranteed by the Portuguese govern- THE Prrez Socilm—Last night the annual
meat. Neither the money nor the interest had been paid.
meeting of the members of the Peace Society was held at
Her Majesty's government had urged that the matter should
Fitaibrov Chapel, Finsbury-circus Mr. H. Passe, M.P. for
be brought to • settlement, and he trusted, for the credit South Durham,• residing. The Finsbury-circus, red the annual
of the Portuguese government, that such arrangements ''''''''
rt.whichreferred at gre. at length to the Tee-ping hos-
would be made as would meet the wishes of the investor.. r! ..w°— w •
He should have no objection to lay the papers on the table -
turtles, and said that the committee had memorialised the
government, and the result bad been that there had not
of the house. since been a repetition of those atrocities in the Chinese
THE INTERNATIONAL EXHIBITION. Empire. The committee bed had their attention called
Sir H. VERNEY asked the Chancellor of the Exchequer to the reckless amount of military expenditure, and the
whether he could inform the house for what sum the increase which the year 1862 showed over the previous
building of the International Exhibition of 1862 could be year i and they had found that in the past ten yews the
purchased, with • view to convert • portion of it into • i.nenzneLn,in the toyitary efts,blishf.e_ntoohltdootbeeonodaboooo.ve
Museum, or a gallery for works of art, or some institution 14,uwintn.- Petitions, Prat".4 "'"
for the encouragement of those objects to which the late nomy, were presented, and the government had taken
Prince Consort devoted him efforts, and to bear his name. sufficient notice .of them to reduce the expenditure
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER was not able 2,000,0001. in this last pear. The committee laad done
to give • positive answer as to the question for what sum their "met to extend the operation of the society, and
the building of the International Exhibition should be par-country. The
would continue to do so over every part
iof theious .ot
chased, because in point of fact those who were principally
interested in the building of 1862 were the commissioners of receipts for the past year, including •prev
1851. and they had not yet had an opportunity of arriving 9941. 17s. 3d., bad been 2,6191, 1 leo 9d.bo , and totheutexEretnudi.told.re
had been 2,1701. Oa Bcl., leaving
ad
the
meeting,
Chairman then briefly .
at any definitive conclusion on the subject. At the same —The
time, their finance committee, which advised them on thesegentlemen spoke in support of the objects of the
several
matter., bad had an opportunity of considering the matter :
society, and several resolutions were adopted.
and on Thursday the commission would itself meet for the per- NEWAVENDORS BENEVOLENT AND PROVIDENT
pose of deciding upon the question. He hoped, therefore, INBTITUTION. The 24th annual meeting of this society was ,
as there had been some communication between the govern- held yesterday at the News-exchange, Black Home-court,
meat and other parties on behalf of the contractor., when Fleet-street, Mr. Kennedy in the chair. Mr. Miles. the
the house assembled, either to make a statement in terms hon. secretary, read the report, which congratulated the
corresponding with the question of the hon. gentleman, or members on the increasing prosperity of the society, and
to lay on the table that which would show more distinctly the fact that daring the past year many members of the
what were the views andintentions of the government. He trade who had hitherto stood aloof lasd come forward
need hardly state that if the building were acquired by and joined the society. By a wise rule of the society the
the government it would be acquired solely with the view election of its pensioners was limited to the amount of
of devoting it to the purposes indicated in the question of dividend received upon its invested stock, and this now
his boo. fnetaL (Hear, hear.) amounting to 1,9251. enabled the committee to receive
SMALLPDX IN THE METROPOLIS, another pensioner on the fund, whose election i
would take place at the close of the meeting, making a
General BUCKLEY asked the President of the Poor-law total of bee pensioners, one at 161. and four at 101. per
Board whether he was aware that fresh oases of smallpox
annum each. The committee were enabled to announce •
were brought into the workhouse of St. George's, Hanover- large addition to their funds, by means of donations m-
erman, perish, and other workhouses in London, and whether ' craved at the late anniversary dinner, presided over by Mr.
some arrangement could not be made to prevent fresh
came of smallpox being brought into the populous parts of due. The total income of tbe society for the yaw had
Charles Dickens, to whom the thanks of the members are
London. . been 342/. 9s. 7d., and the expenditure 3371. 6s. sd. ; leaving
Mr. VILLIERS said he had not heard of any fresh cases
He • balance on the year of 23/. Is. 2d. The office of some-
hbeadif merdadmi,tittedoweinvMer,St'thatGerhee'Ladm oyibweasr wrenkherrmlly on 'thee being vacant, consequent on the sudden retirement of
Mr. Hoskins, the committee recommend Mr. W. Junes,
decline throughout the workhouses of London. Some weeks. of the Lambeth Savings Bank, for the office. The report
since the Privy Council issued a circular to all the metro- wan edopted. Vote* of thanks were given to the committee
politan unions urging them to take precautionary measures and officers. the retiring directors and auditors were ft-
with a view to the extinctiou of the disease, and since then elected. Mr. W. ions, was unanimously elected as macre-
answers had been sent by 25 out of the 40 unions stating t. .
that theirsocommodation was more than adequate to the The suosesefill candidate was Mrs. Rose Wild,
numbar°f patients. With regard te St` George's rrith who polled 239 votes against 91 given for Ida. Lied*.
wirdeow of the late Mr. Wild, of Catherine-street, Strand,
they be
within the last few days reported that t e go- .. -
warners and directors of the poor had, with the assistance of DLEALTH OF LONDON.—It appears from the
the medical officers, appropriated a wing of the workhouse weekly return of births and deaths in London, that in the
for the reception of smallpox patients ; that that wing was first week of May the deaths in London were 1,459 ; in the
capable of accommodating 40 patients ; that the greatest week that ended last Saturday they fell to 1,350. The
number at any time had been 30, and the total number since average number of deaths, as derived from returns of weeks
the outbreak of the malady had been 50 ; and that the (in ten years 185342) nearly corresponding with last week,
greatest attention to cleanliness end the use of disinfectants is, with a correction for increasing population, 1,214. The
had been effectual in preventing the spread of the disease in actual number of deaths in last week exceeds the estimated
the hones. number by 136. The weekly number of deaths from small-
THE CHINA VOTE OF CREDIT. pox has been always above 60 since the week that ended
Sir S. NORTHCOIE asked the Chancellor of the Ex- 4th of April ; hut the number in last week was lower than
chequer whether it was the intention of the government to in any other of the six weeks that have elapsed saves that
surrender into the Exchequer the balance of 526.1041. re- date. In the first week of May the deaths from small-pox
n melo' unissued from the vote of credit for the China war? were 71 ;in the present return the number is 61. Of these 61
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the time (arc - 7occurred in the west districts • , 15 in the north (6 of
bad not yet come when it would be desirable to make a which were returned by the Small-pox Hoepital) ;6 in the
surrender of that balance. It was sot • cosh balance, but central ;22 in the east districts (5 of which were in Poplar)
a balance of credit, and it could not be sorremlered at pre- and 11 in the south districts that contain nearly 800,000
sent, because there were certain claims which bad not been perona who live on the south aide of the river. Scarlftisa
closed. He thought it better that no surrender should be wee fatal in 89 imam, 4of which were in P.egent'apork sub-
made till they were able to announce the conclusion of all district, 4 in Somers-tows, 4in St. Botolph sub-district. 7
the questioes in reference to the expenditure connected with in Bethnal-green, 4in St. Peter, Water . ortb Measles,
the Chine war. which was fatal in 55 oases, appears to prevail most in
Chelsea and the east Bub-district of Islingtoo. Three deaths
Mr. HENNEASY inquired the course which the govern- from scarlatina occurred on the 9th, 10th, and 11th instant
meat would take with reference to the conduct of the respectively in one family at 18, Osnaburghstreet, Regent's-
Prowl= authorities towards the Russian troops crafting perk. Five deaths of nonagenarians were returned in the
the Prussian frontier, which be considered a breech of inter. week, The oldest of these persons were a widow 95 ran
national law and showed that Prussia was meting in concert old and a man 96 years. Lest week the births of 919 boys
with the Russians ; that Prussia was, in feet, at war with .4 956 girl., in all 1,875 children, were registered in
the Pots. Load**. In the ten coresponding weeks of the years
Lord PALMERSTON, after explaining the duties of 1853.62 the average number (corrected) was 1,881.
neutrals towards belligerents, was of opinion that there bird Full benefit of reduced duty obtained by par
been on the part of Prussia no violation of international law chasing Bornlmank Pure Tea: very choke at M. ad and as.
or of neutral obligations. • High Standard" at as. 4d. (formerly Y. Bd.), Is Use
Some further dincusdon followed upon this and kindred and most delicious Imported. Agents In every town 'optima?:
topics, in the course of which Mr. K FITZGERALD die- pasasta—Ladv.rtisamesta