The Express.
London, England, 1852-08-04 00:00:00

THE CHARGE OF DEFRAUDING POOR
EMIGRANTS.

THE AUSTRALIAN GOLD MINING AND
EMIGRATION COMPANY.
MANSION•HOUSE.—(THIS DAY).
Sir R. W. Carden reheard this ease. The first witness ,
called was
James Baker, who deposed that he was a grocers' moist-
ant, just now out of husinrs.. His last place was at Deering,
and being desirous of going to Australis, he came to London. gs.
and called at the office of the Australian Gld Mining and
Emigration Company, Austin.friars, with Mr. Jones, en. 91.
other in:ending emigrant. Saw a printed paper on a
board at 6, Austiu.frisre. It referred to the Austra- „.1
Ilan Gold Mining end Emigration Company. He went on
FrillAy, June 25, with Jones. They went into an office,
on the attend fluor. Ile saw Tlipe, the defendant ;he first 171
6•11 some boys, and he was then introduced to Tripe and s'.
mother—a stole gentlemen, whew. name he did not know.
Could not see that gentleman it court now—(the gentleman so
here came in)—that is the gentleman. (The gentleman, in
mower to the clerk, said his name was Greenwood.) Tripe is
mad Greenwood were sitting together in en inner room.
There were other persons sitting in the room when he went 2°
la. His friend, Mr. Jones, was spok. Mlle, and askod them
if they had a ship going to Australia. They answered, se
"Yee, we have one about finished, end her name is a
gee Camilla." This was said by Tripe. Mr. Junes
waked to know where the ship war, and Tripe mid
in the Import desk, at the West India Docks. Tripe y.
mete it down en • slip mf peon. They then said to Tripe
that they mead p dews eat use her. Ile heard nothing r.
abbot a atwitter Mk that thee. They went to the West a.
Ulla Decks Marla emmatt, Tripe went with them, end
they mw the used them. They did not return to the of• t
kw that day. Mr. Jones abut what they would charge.
This was before they went to the docks. Tripe mid the
hre was to he 251., but that they would take something t.
we
Mr. Greenwood wrote down figures on a piece of 00
pwr. Greenwood and Tripe spoke together, and then 1..!*.
T*se said they would take 901. for four persons. Mr. Jones
themashed whet he would charge for half &dozen. Mr. Green
greed said 1401. Mr. Jonas said, "You charge 231. each fur w
the other two, and that is too mach." They were then told 11l
sail nest day, and they did so call, sad saw Tripe on
Melt way in Austin•friars, sal he asked Mr. Jones if he
MI seam to pay the meaty, and he said " Yes." Mr.
Tripe west back to the slice, and when he eta* out again to
wham and Jones went in, and he told them they could fit.
tot 221. each. They then went up stain, and saw Mr. "
ue and Greenwood in the inner room. Mr. Jones P3,‘
ITS Ventague that they were come about the passim, to •";.
amilaMic in the ship Camilla. He replied, " It is all right,
sir that he had sun Mr. Tripe, who had told him about it' a
ins deo said, " I believe you are to go for 221 each.'.
Eat some conversation with Mr. Montagu respecting Alia.' 1,•
Walla, and he told me that he was going in the Camilla ,4
with us, and that we should be very comfortable. He said
be was a mineralogist, and was gang to the mines. He said 4
he was going for the eampaay, who were respectable persons.
He said the mewl would sail from the lath to the 20th of 10
July. Tripe came in while the convention was going on. LI.
Tripe said to Mr. Montagu "These are the gentlemen who're ;
going." We peal Montague 111. each, as • deposit, on that it,
amnion, and he wrote us reeeip:s. I paid 111. for my- Is
suM, and 111. for my brother at that interview. is
1 Dmii the money to Mr. Montagne. He laid it or. the 1.
OW la front of a drawer. The receipt was written and
eland in his presence. Mr. Jones said hw hoped the cons- a.
wiy was all right. Moatarm said, " Ob. yes ; there is no eL
Lear of that. He said he was going with us. I saw the 11l
dietary on the 25th. It was given to us by Tripe. (Dietary ei
produced). There were shipping bills up in the office. I 10
ad ant ens a prospectus. We did not ask who the members
of dim mingsny were. We were satisfied on Monaca' Ili
waft that he was going with us. A week atarwards to
he WI Tripe at Harp-lane with Mr. Nicholson, having M
hand the parties had not imaged the Camellia. It was
NON time after he paid the money that he maw Tripe. Mr.
Siam wasakawith him. He had no eenversation with 6".
thee, as Mr. Jones saw him by kilned( He saw so
IkfM afterwards at Capt. Lean's, Lower Thames-street, SO
ma tad him he would take iris stass, back, and Tr;t• pro- ...
duet that he should have it on the Thursday, but he did 1,1
NM get it. He did not are Montague after paying the ;
messey. so
Is reply to Alderman Sir H.
_Carden—l paid my money ii
belief " the" It

in the b..— that 1 would be shipped in Caeula. It it.
wu my belief that I was in the hoods of • respectable coop is
Pan,-
Creenezamined by Mr. Sleigh—lt was on the under-
standiag that I shoula go out in the Camilla that I paid the
saw y. When I paid the money I did not notice any tot
notoust-books. The book produced was not before him.
Cries-esamined by Mr. Owen.—ht the first interview
limy said they had a vessel for Port Philip. Traps ap ""I
peered to be the leading an. When we bargained for the sq
ueuey, Greenwood said it was too mace to take off. That
mo• at the first interview. This was in the roost.
Ha afterwards saw Montagu. It was Greenwood who ~11
put the figures on the paper, after they had consulted ~
together. Greenwood said it was too much to take off after ",
' Tripe bad said we could go for 9W. Mr. Tripe appeared to so
be directing Mr. Greenwood. On the occasion on which I
paid the money, Tripe came in before I did so. I did not it.
I hear any name mentioned as forming Dart of the company,
either on the 25th or 26th. I did not ask Tripe to get me a
peonage in another ship at Captain Lean's.
[The ease was proceeding when we went to press.]
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