The Express.
London, England, 1855-07-17 00:00:00

PUBLIC) 317SINESS.
DUTY ON FOHNION HOPS.

la mower to Mr. Pius-err,
TM CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said Users
was stoats, is lb* preepeete of the preseat imp of hops
which would reader it incumbent es the govetaweat to
Interfere with tMserssts wader Irina the duty os
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HILT DO TIBIA
Kr. B. BALL asked the CLEsseihre ef the Badgers U
In had takers into his eirsederatieet the inconveohoiss god
lee eselabed try she assigOor hest ble Wog obliged 10 Ili
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hardeldp that peruses se beseadost seesafiles sake Sisk
eNM .e reeperible far QS mid &ies, sad were pew
hots daspoliag tad say parties of VW: estate is bad
at Isom
The OIANOBLLOR of b. EXCHEQUER said he
goiliesised **pleaded griersaos of the mimeo was, UM
sbes their beads hied hem registered is the Court ell
Ceases Pleas, them was so cheep and easy new by
triads their lialdiitressid be removed sifter the aseeseity
sessed. Es bad ammisisgsfry late the peacoat state of the
law, eat dwell be prepend to sweet to the eztearies of
the regulatiess that were iatredaeed with regard to bonds
eves ge the easesemiali:oi the last aeries but ears.
1 hat eiteritioa„ le would remove the grimace
semplaised of ; es& be prepared to introduce a
elegem Se that West hie **VII feistiest to eagles sad sump
HMOs seer Were the hews, lad which stood fer ONllllittee
ea Werisseday seat.
THB BINGO TIMONIUM

Str C. WOOD, is &sewer to a question, said that Admi-
ral Caudal bed writtea to the Mialeter ef War at et
Petersburg desaadtar the Akan of those primers. At
the doe whew the mail left Croustade so answer had bees
resolved ; sad he scold not, of eosins, say what prcepeet
there was of the primers betel Mewed. The house would
be happy to hear that suety an was taken of the wounded ;
they were treated all kl.dly ea passible.

GENERAL GUYON.
Mr. H. RIMS BET had placed a question ea the paper;
and wee about to profess it with an szp/aaatoey inatemout,
but the house nudheted its baptism* by arise of " Quie-
tism. queue." The boss gentleman then paths following
quatioa W bother the Fint Lord of the Treasury would
have any objection to instruct the British Anbanadov at
Condastinople to ue his good offices with the Turkish
gOVerellellt to maze s military command tea Gemini
Gayest
Lord PALMERSTON said he was very lied to bear his
testimony to the pawn of the oMoar referred Mond la the
very valuable and haboriees seniors whisk he lid wadwed
Si the Turkish gogeramest dace he bed bass Melds en-
vies. tau yesr he we. with the Terideb gamy is Asia.
He weapon at Conataatiaople ; bat tt wail dim' gnat
Pawn to the gegarameat. awl would to a of skean
" rstated to
esaaread
them. if akenmstmon simatU load to his
I,lillia.
THE OFFICE OF POSTMASTIMPADEXERAL.•
Mr. MOFFATT put the felbewiap ass lluet—Whither
it is the iataatioa of her Majesty's at and eim
edges of the mend gamey to abolish the oils a a*
saasteraneral, and to appoint • chairman napes ibis to
the Treasury, in onforatin with the mire easheadeet and
pricked system whisk obtains is the ether grail depart-
meats of Fedi, nary vim. the Costae% Eagles, Swop
pi Taxes t"
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=so aster:Ws rosostg he ot the Post-
nes to s muds uNtrit, Soma sot a sty
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and aside osplosithe oollooks of mow. owl
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the 'Poles of these to Oil bass who have soot gins
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at Ire sae INNS, is So Osolows sob Voids. With

regard to the secs. I thisk none would result
from the pl.. propess* and I think that nothing but
incioamaisses would arise.
CRIMINAL JUSTICE BILL.
la answer to Sir F. Km&e,
ATTORNEY.GENERAL stated that it was the ia-
testiesof the sevorumen to pawed with this bill. He
proposed to take it at a morning sitting.
THE VIENNA NEGOTIATIONS.
Captain 8. KNOX asked whether, at my time is the
remit *egotistical, a subsidy to the Austrian governemmt
was ever entertained by tie government of dab country ?
Lord PALMERSTON—No, sir, never. (Cheers and
leffehme4
LORD JOHN RUSSELL'S RESIGNATION.
Oa the motion for proceeding to the orders of the day,
Lord J. RUSSELL rose and said—My noble friend the
Fret Lord of the Treasury has given notice of a motion to
postpone the orders of the day, for the purpose of allowing
the hon. baronet opposite the member toe Hertfordshire
(Sir E. B. Lytton) to bring as the media of which he has
gives notice. Sir, as that motion refers both te my conduct
at Vienna, rod also to my oestiasases is °See ober
MP *WS frees Vienne, I Mak it *him Mate le die homes
the* which km a pest booming the motion whisk the
has. banged wishes WI make. I have to state to the house
I that, bevies es Thursday amnia' declared to my slitle
friend the First Lord of the Treasury my wish IS alio,
from the Mice which I held, her Majesty has Imes earl
closely pleated M mespt my resignation; sad therefore I
I only hold office tail my sitecomor is appointed. I should
have bees disposed to rest satisfied with this declaration.
were it not that recent events have bees of es implicated a
name in themselves, and they have likewise beta so per-
, meted by malice—(olions)—that I think it is desirable to
plies before the house some acoosat of my conduct is those
recent and very &Sault Mansactions. It has been stated,
in a circular of Count Bnol, that I informed the Austrian
lbaitur kelPareiga Affairs before I leftVienaa, that I would
meeemplellsmints I might possess for the eomptanes of cer-
inia/neildas preposidons which had bees diseassed. Idi
sot dispute the general COttseisesi of that armelies.
It is sot tree, as has bees said, that I engaged to urges
the cabinet the view that I entertained ; but it is tensible
I did promise to lay before the government, is the mull
able manner I could, the propositions that had been made.
I did so is ocinjunotion with other persons of great weight
sad authority. Besides the three reddest ministers of
Frame, Great Miele, sad Turkey, *ore were as that time
is the eapital of Austria the Minister for Foreiga Affairs of
Femme and the Mistimes for Foreign Affairs of Turkey,
After many and repeated discussions, there was at length
a proposition Made to me, which both the Minister fur
Foreign Affeire of name sad the Minister for Foreign
Affairs of Turkey—this lattar a penes ontaisly lees well
known in this couatry, bet a man distiegvished for his in-
telligence, sagacity, end knowledge of affairs of the world—
thought might be accepted as a foundation for prayed-1
thou which might become the basis of peace. I concurred is
that opinion; sad after a conferesee with M. Droop' de
Lhuys, we eagagod—be to bring to Pais, I to London, •
writs.. coausaniciatioa matainieg those propositions. I
will not sow ester Into the mature of those propositions.
though I may have somethieg to say to them by-and-by&
I brought those proposals to Loudon. I arrived on the
night of the 29th of April. Oa the 30th there was a Wiwi
council on the subject of my mission to Vienne. I havi
already stated that the malt of the dissuasions of the
eabinet was, that those propeeitioes were not adopted by the
goverameat of this country. But, sir, I think I should
state, as that temp elm what I than said, that there were
circumstances which arose in the muses of those discussions.
which made it appear to my mind impossible to urge the
&sceptic°, of atom propositions ea the cabinet. Thor* was,
therefore, at the end of that week, a comerrence of all the
members of the cabinet that those prepositive. could not be
allowed. I should say that the eireamstaaoss to which I
allude were oircessatanoss quite independeat of the merit of
Übe propositions themselves, and did sot altar my opinion of
the merit of those proposition& This agreement
having been come to, Lord Cluendon wrote a deepatcb,
which is in the papers recently presented to parliament, and
whisk is dated the Bth of May. A few words with regard
to the merit of them propositions—not that I wish to enter
into them at ell completely, bat I de so is oonatiquenas of
au observatioa tibias was matte by the right boa. gentle-
man the member for Buckinghamshire (Mr. Disraeli).
That right bon. pallets/A said that if those propositions
were seals as to °mein,' the people of this country, that if
those pospositiests were received, there was ao great issue
at stake which *tilled the exertions that this country was
making in serrying on the war. Now sir, it was because I
thought the war necessary, it was became I thought these
onetime should be leads, that I was the Maras elitism
proposidoss, and thought that they were fit to be assipled.
I acessived the merges& of the peril to Turkey to ha car,,
I conceived both the power sad ,the projects of SO&
to be such, that it was necessary to unite, if Milk
all the great powers of Europe oat of Issele,
in order to combine against her effort, la war, and
afterwards to give Turkey security in peace. Such was the
foundation, therefore, of my opinion—an opinion sot
formed seetaialy epos the merits of the earlier of these
propellants, because thaw who have read the recent papers'
will dad that I objected to that which is the main principle
of those propesidons, tamely, the principle of oesster-
poise. Bat obis these peoposkisee same to be isforeed
whisk they were only the day before I Vienna, or per-
haps the very day—by a declaration of the Emperor of
Austria, Omagh his minister, that he was ready both to
present these Mhos as an ultimatum at Petersburg
and after the touclesioa of a treaty—if a treaty should be
aonaleded—to enter tato an alliance, a defensive alliance,
with Fosses sad with Great Britain, to provost and to
resist in future my aggression on the part of Zunis
against Turkey—l did think that thereby a security would
be obtained for the future pesos of Europe whisk,
whatever might be the masa of the arms of Frame
and Great Britain, and however glorious their • starts
might It, would plate Turkey in a more sewage
position the. she would be placed I. if Austria did nell
mentrise with as, or Mould at asy future period partake In
the designs of Roads. Is stating this °Oahu& I shield
berslly expect te hear any difference of view from the hem
baronet the mamba for Hertfordshire, bemuse, spooking,
as be always does, with great ability and with great do-
gmas', be pointed out the advantage of having Austria as
as ally, and the importance of her position in the centre of
Europe. Bubb, the., was the general ground upon which
I thought that those propositions might be accepted. I
have said already that they were not accepted; and the
eaMest of the day laving all come so that conclusion, tome
ea me ground, some on mother, and I having concerted is
the mmvisties that the prepositioes should not be prnred
h alter the eireninsteases to which I bay. refereed, it only re
mained for us to tumour In the deepatch.of Lord Minutes.
That despatch wen dated the Bth of May. On the 16th of
May Lard Wielnimiliad wrote • despatch whisk contained
the Titters of the Austrian goverment, is which he statsd
that the Amities government conceived that by prepositst
their ultimatum they totalled the conditions of the treaty et
December 2, sad they proposed only that they should is the
eonkrenee lay dews some prepositime It, the lialtatlea et
the Russian last, &Marto' at the ease time to the peers-
meats of Prams and Great Britain that having somplied
with the treaty of Dedembii. U that proposition was retested
by Russia they did not mesa te make it • cam &Ili, but
that the coafemae e would then formally clot. Wises we
resolved that despatch, there was so doubt on the Pali of
her Majesty's government, sad I think there meld sat well
be say, titat it was not worth while to go JAM conferees' M
support a proposition of that kind, being • proposition Mee.
favourable to Russia than the one proposed by M.
Droaya de lamp and myself, and therefore oar-
tale to be rejseted by Ruda, mein that Amble
would not ripped ills the extant of going to war, or
eves making further meantime for war. Instreetime
WWI asesediagly gives te Lord Westmoreland that if such
peoposidea ens made in the maierence he should not
disease the merits of it, and should not enter into any
farther debits, but declare that, is the view of his goyim-
Most, ft was desirable to put an end to the eosiomme ; sad
shallot iesimetioss were mat to the minister of France.
That mama M Austria anived en she Mt of May, and
front that time therefor, there was ea sad of all negotiation)
with Austria for the purpose of praposiss as ultimatum to

Burt. sad no doubt w

ram loft that the war moat be sow

tined fee the pavement obtaining the object of the allies.
It was declared that the effeative arrangements for carrying
the third point into effect nut depend on the event of war.
I will, however, take the liberty of reading to the house the
terms of the third point In reference to the revision of the
treaty of July, 1841 The revision of the treaty of
July, 1811, rut have for its °blest to connect the existence

of tile Ottelielt empire sore Le spletely with the Eum
Ms eqailibrium, and to put an sad to the preponder-
ates of Russia in the Black Sea. As to the arrangements
to be taken iu this respect, they depend too directly on the

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swims of the war for it to be possible st present to deter-
mine the besot; it is sadleient to point oat the principle."
We reverted, therefore, to that condition of things in which
it vies necessary to carry on the war in order to obtain
that solution of the third point which we were

am able to obtain by negotiation. This has m-
imes*, to my conduct up to Aim period. The
neat period to which I shall refer is when the right
hon. padoman opposite (Mr. Disraeli) made a motion is
this how, which my noble framed at theitoad of the "b-
-urials( told Wm was made %hew the aegoeiatimo could
be said to be formally closed; bat which, however, he premed,
sad which ended by the bonito 'declaring that they would
WWI her Majesty's govarameat in the condact of the
war. It i• made a reproach to me, that ia that discussion I
appeared to be in favour of- a vigorous prosecution of the
war—that I was an iimospromialag advocate of war. In
my coaduct, what else °mid I possibly be. The govern-
meat had determined ow patting as end to the Cellfefeellell.
VI bat other means were there of obtaining a citation of the
third point ? What other seems were there of obtaining
mace, map' by a promotion of the war ? The only pro-
peskiest' dimmed were repesitiou sada by Ramie in the
°valorem*. It was amiatamod, by these who thought that
peace could be snared by this proposition, that it had
sufficient elosamem ea which to funs a pacification. I en-
tirely differed la opinion with regard to the first ; the
second wee rejected by Lord Weatimeeland, most properly,
salt appears to me, without dismassies. Neither appeared to
ma to afford the elemtate at a peaceful solution, sad
therefore astsrally, sad, I think, inevitably, I took part
with the house in vapporthig the prosecution of the war.

It is said that at that time the • Miss was cot informed of
the preposition of Austris, the terms which had been laid
down by Austria, and t►e answer which had been given.
I was sot daily responsible for that eonneenication not
being made. My noble friend Lard Clarendon was the
parson to have mad* it, bat I think my sable friend and
the government were right fa abt bating made the commu-
nication at that moment, bemuse it is clear that when
Austria ems to the decision not to interfere by arms, not
to move her army on the Russian territory, bat, ea the
coatrary, bad determined to withdraw from the prospect of
the tamest, and even to dintialsh and retinae her forces,
it was evident, from that masa; that Russia, which had
boo threatened, which had felt the pressure of the great
increase of the Austrian army from a cemparatively small
amber to 600.000, would Mel herself at liberty to detach
some of the best and finest troops of her army to the shores
of the Crimes, to oppose the armies of France and Bog.
land. I thick, therefore, t►at it would be quite usjnetinable
for the government to have stated prematurely before it wee
knows to the other cabinets what the proposition of At stria
and oar mower to it was, sad thereby eatable Russia to send
her forces to the Crimes. (Hear, bear.) I cannot conceive
• greater dereliction of duty than a declaration of snob an

end of the negotiations would be. With regard to the speech
I made on the 24th of May, when the right hon. gentleman
made his motion, I stated that I was for a vigorous
inapecatioa of the war, and I wittieca in that
°pinkie sad is f of that pulley. I may say, perhaps,
that during the period between the 13th of April and the
6.11 of May, there wee much consideration es to what should
be due; but from that time, the part of the government
being taken, there were no questions with regard to any
fresh negotiations which created any dissenaions in the
cabinet. The cabinet were ma united as say osbi,at I ever
knew during the two months which have elapsed since that
pelted. I some now to the time when the hon. member for
Rednonbire put • question to me with regard to • certain
proposal of Count Boni's, which he had seen in the news
wen, aid shortly after which the right boa. gentleman
toe member for Manchester took —as I think—an inoppor-
teas omission for making an attack on my conduct. He said
that I almost led the way In loaning my right hon. friend
the member for the University of Oxford as • person willing
to consent to an ignominious pease, when I myself was
willing to accept the very same tetras. I took no notice of
the charge at that time, but whea the right bon. gentleman
gave notice that he should call the attention of the house to
the subject, I thought it necessary to take that coarse
which 1 bate taken. I did not deny any part of the conduct
I bad taken. I communicated with my noble friend at the
bead of the government and with my noble friend Lord
aereedes, as to the put I Weeded to take in the debate.
I Weak it would be unworthy of my position, if I had shrunk
hem this question, and if I refuted to answer, when called
epos, whether or net I was in favour of the same conditions
which my right hon. friend (Mr. Gladstone) thought to con-
ed, the elements of peace. I pointed out that the propositions
med. by Austria, which Count Buol in his circular explained
at mars length, were propositions of a totally different
uteri. I avo aed—for I did not wish to deny it—that I
had been in favour of the proposition of Austria, and which
had the consent of all the represeatatives of France, Bag.
land, Turkey, and Austria. la looking back at that spindle
'I do not know—however 11l I may have expressed myself—
drat I mild have done otherwise than own the part I had
taken, and I should be ashamed of myself if I denied that
which I had done, and what was my conscientious opinion
if what was due to the interests of my country. (Hear,
hoar.) The honourable baronet (Sir B. Lytton) thought
that it was • ground for moving • vote of want
of eonfldeacie la tin whole administration that
I continued to be • member of it. lie is of opinion that
became I took a view that the propcsition of Austria
might hue been accepted on the let of Kay that I must
ever hereafter be neapable of senior her Majesty in carry-
ing on the war. (Neer, hear.) That impression, I know,
woefully prevailed. For myself I neither see the logic of
it, nor do I concur in the justice of the conclusion. (Hear,
hear.) Bat I tome now, having stated these matters as
shortly as I could, to this last period, in which I thought it
necessary to tender my naiveties. (Hear, hear.) When
my noble friend first occupied himself, in obedience to her
Majesty's commands, with forming a government, he did
me the honour of asking for my assistance in office. I de-
clined the offer at the time, but I felt convinced that with
the assistance which he obtained of men of great eminence
end %alum, some of whom I see now in the house, my
right boa. friend the member for Carlisle, and my right
hoe. friend the member for the University of Oxford, and
others, he would be able to carry on the goverment
with great advantage to the country. Unfortu-
nately, • few days after, a difference of view with
rupees to the appointmeat of a committee led to • separation
of these gentlemen, and they resigned once. My noble
friend gala did me the hnour of asking for my assistance
is oaks. I believed that my noble friend from his great
ability—from Ids great acquaintance with the relations of
this country pith foreign powers—hem the high spirit which
he two evinced in maintaining the honour of the country
(hne; Itear)—was the fittest person her Majesty could have
seinen for tarrying on the government. (Hear, hear.) I
thought it possible that as my noble friend asked my ends.
tense, my 'sputum in parlialseat, and the politica I
ban sometimes held, might be of some use te my noble
friend, In assisting him to accomplish a task which it dose
Isla the greatest ereditthat he undertook. (Hen, hear.) I
complied with the tequet, and arospeed ens at
the anise then vateat. Bat when I returned
from Venus I told my noble friend that I would relinquish
°Mee. (Hear.) Bat be auto be could not see how thee
could be any adman, to the public. A few days ago I
stated the same thing, being only anxious to scalds my
'able friend to carry on the Whin of the country with
Mewing*. (Clasen.) My noble friend again deelised
accept that ofiee. Bat lading that the irepreseien whisk
I have referred to—whethor that besprinkle was handed
oa errors I had sommitted, or, as I believe, headed &greet
deal on misspprehensiee oe miarepreaset•tiOn of or een-
doet (hear)—but, be that as it may, this impeessina
generally prevailing that my messes ia the Sabot

was searidend a disadnatoge to the carrying on
the again of the country with that benefit which
it was my intention to afford my noble Mend—when I
felt convinced of that, I told my noble friend that I could
not listen to any arguments he might wish to oddest' to me,
but that my resigns: on most be decided, and that he must
be pleased I o lay it before her Majesty, with a recommenda-
tion to her Majesty to accept it. This occurred on Thun
day night, and my noble friend accordingly laid my resigna-
tion befora her Majesty, aooompanied with the handsomest

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expressions towards me. Now, sir, let me ogy, that having
mitt n this coarse, I do not feel at all disooneated with the

position in whishl stand. I see no reason to bo sfi. In the

first place, I bays sated always from what I believe to be
beneficial to my country. (Hear, hear.) I have thought
over this questim again and again, with a view to the
pabl c interest, and I have advised that which I thought to
be expedient to the country. (Hear.) I have bad, in the
position I haye:oecupied at various times, many dear and at-
tached friends, and I must say that, generally speaking,
they have begun with the =mbar. of the Cabinet
I have left. I have every reason to thank them
for the cooldenes and kiadases they alweys showed to-
wards me. But there are others of a different class of friends
—that kind of friends who, when there is a rub in your
fortunes—(loud cheen)— who when they only perceive the
least rub in your fortunes, fall away like water from you,
and who are never found again except to sink you.
(.beers.) There are some of thew, but I trust they are
few, and I cannot regard them with anything bat contempt.
(Cheers.) With regard to public affairs, it has been my
fortune, far beyond my desert, to carry, or to assist in car.
ryieg, measures which have promoted civil and religious
liberty, which have tended to promote the material and
moral welfare of my country. (Hear, hear.) I say I have
bad that good fortune far beyond my desert; and it is a
satisfaction of which I cannot but feel proud that I have
been slandered and calumniated, as others before me have
been. At that 1 ought to feel neither surprise nor dims.
tistaction, when I recollect that one of the beet men I
ever knew, a dear and lamented friend of Wu, Lord
Althorp—whose only desire was to steer clear of oSee, and
who, when he had the highest position to which he Gould
aspire in this konse—w.s yet accused of shaping his conduct
for the sake of place. (Hear, hear.) I have oleo seen, and
that but lately, as good and tallest a spirit as I evil knew,
the brave end humane Lord Raglan, persecuted and slan-
dered, and that to the very verge of the grave. (Cheers.)
I can, then, feel no dissatisfaction or surprise if I am ca
Inmaisted ; bat if I were now finally to close my
political account, I can say that I have been
enabled to promote, by measures which I have sup-
ported, the welfare, the advantage, the liberty, and
the prosperity of my country, that I have had many
warm, attached, and excellent friend., of so noble a
nature as any men who ever belonged to any party.
(Cheer,.) I have likewise the satisfaction of knowing that
whatever errors I may have committed, whatever mistakes
I may have made, I have always endeavoured to satisfy
my own conscience. (Cheers.) The:efore I feel t►at I have

no noon to be discontented with the result, even if the
result should be that ever fer the future I should be ex-
eluded from political and official life. I am ready to say,
therefore, that whatever the event of the motion which the
hon. baronet easy think it necessary to make in support of
the view be entertains, with this explanation, I am content
to abide the &Melon. (Choors.)

Sir E. B. LYTTON reviewed the conduct of the noble
lord with relation both to the previous and the existing
verantent, u well as in the Vienna Conferences, @attending
toot it bore oat his resolution, which set forth that the
confidence of the country in the ministry was forfeited
by the retention of the Colonial Secretary among the
advisers of the Crown. He (Sir E. B. Lytton)
would accord to the government all the praise
he could, and he was willing to admit that
so far as Lord Clarendon was conouned— (hear, bear)—he
had displayed a vigorous, hearty, English tone in his des.
patches. (Cheers.) He could sot, however, extend the
same praise to the noble viscount. Lord Clarendon repre-
sented himself alone, but the noble viscount, as first
minister, represented the entire government. It did seem
rather suspicions that ths noble viscount, who must have
felt sufficiently anxious for the success of his negotiator,
should not have addressed a single letter direct to him;
there did not appear one such letter in the entire cone-
%atience. (Ironical ethers from the ministerial benches.)
Of wine he would be told that the Secretary for Foreign
Affairs was the official chinas' of communication. He
thought it to be regretted, for the sake of the country and
of the noble viscount himself, that some of these letters had
nut been inserted ; it would have relieved the perplexity of
the public. Nobody suspected the sincerity of Lord Cla-
rendon, but there were persons wicked enough to suspect the
sincerity of the noble viscount. The despatch of
Lord Westmoreland, In which the Austrian proposals
were communicated to the English government, was re-
ceived in London on the 19th of May ; Lord Clarendon
had &hetet invariably answered all previous communica-
dons on the following day, but this despatch was not an-
swered for ten dap. Whet occurred in England during
these ten days ? conduct of the English government
during that period was such as to induce the right hon.
gentleman the member fur Backinghemshire to bring on
his resolution, charging them with ambiguity of language
and indecisive conduct. During the ten days the cabinet
was deliberating on these proposals. Lord Clarendon was
not instructs/ to reply to Count Boot's proposition till they
bed ascertained that the sentiments of the House of Com-
mons left them no option in the continuation of
the war. Was it not a fair inference that the
noble lord did not stand alone In the coun-
cil that Lord Clarendon was not the spokesman
of a united cabinet. It was not till the tensper,of the
home end of the country was clearly ascertained that
these propositions were rejected. The noble lord had
',droned to ea expreuion of his with regard to the Austrian
alliance, he took a distinction between an alliance with
Austria and the friendship of Austria; be desired to have
her as a friend, bat he should wryer court her &ilium He
believed it would necessarily proclaim a schism between
Ragland and France. Even while Austria was only a
mediator she bad made a propoaitioo which France had at
one* rejected, but which the-English had taken into con-
sideration. What would have bees the result if Austria
had been an ally added to a third co-equal voice in their
euncils ? Suppose some proposition made which France
would accept ; then the prophecy of the hon. member for
the West Riling might come true, and England
might stand alone with exhausted finances with
the remnant of an army. He had another objecting
to that alliance still more forcible. It was important for
the future tranquillity of Europe to show that Frau' and
England united were able to chastise the aggression of
Russia; if they could sot succeed without the assistance of
Austria, whatever material success might attend their
arms, it would not weaken the moral power of Russia is
the least. She would state to Turkey and to the East—. It
has at leant shown that Busload and France united are no
match for me l it required the combined forces of Mutant
Europe to restrain me ; such a combination cannot occur
again ; their combination is oily momentary my ambition is
eternal." They might have the friendship of Austria, but
in all her engagements she was actuated only by a hearty
sense of bar own interests. It they desired to have
Austria neither as • Mead nor as an ally, they could
not take • better course then to allow • member of
the cabinet who bad promised to give his support
to proposals emanating from to remain in office after
he bad advised his sovereign to reject these proposals with
disdain. They would be exposed to the ridicule of Earns,
and the great name of England would be frittered mew.
Let them have a cabinet united in a hearty seal to carry she
war toe proper terneisatios. He should be glad to kw,
' if the guru:meat was now united for that object; was
Lord Clarendon the spokesman of a united cabinet, he
should be glad to know it, not from the cheers of the gas.
datum °poodle only—(loud churs)—he should be glad to
hear it from members of the government who bad new
yet expressed their sentiments. (Cheers.) lie should like
to hear what were the opinions of the Chateau et the
Exchequer—what thou of the First Lord of the
—(cheers)—be should like tab's? from them gig=
Clarendon was really the spokesman of a enitedathitiet. Hi
'humid be glad to hear it, and then they ereold see whet
grounds there were foe the belief in that house sad In the
country that the noble hoed did not stead alone. (Cheese.)
He would give the government the benefit of the doubt.
The retirement of the noble lord had, so far, effected the
object of his motion. It had effected this—that the ernes
of the noble lord (for so he would call them) would neesil:
• time at least, be injurious to the public servile.
there wee the obje t still more important, which would be
more lasting than any peace, more glorious than say—the
maintenance of that high standard of public integrity with.
cut which a nation may rot though she has use enemy, and
with which all enemies may be defied. On Purity week that
cabinet win united
existence by the dismissal of the noble lord. Se far as he
they had since pined an additional
was coceerard he had no wish to obtain • mere party
triumph. He would now ark their leave to
withdraw his motion, and in douse so Ls thust
ungratulate them on having obtained a recognition

of that public virtue which demanded that the _r__. ir
actions should not with sinister audacity give the he ts
their irosyletions. This wee the good that he would moons-
plien, with the single sneeption of the mere party object of
a change in the government. Tust might come 'testi but
Le trusted that In the mean time, in their present enter.
gooey, an object so comparatively trivial would not bet fore-
most is thew thoughts. Re was willing that the peens-
mint should have a reprieve ; but they would be more than
ever under a vigilant sarveillans• of public opinion. -It re-
mains yet to be seen whether, in making a sacrifice of •
man who was trusted by his country, and revered even by
hie opponents—(bur, hear)—and who, on two previous occa-
sions, would have retired from office when be might have
dose so with honour, but la an evil hour for that honour
bad been induced by them to consult their temporary in-
terests, and dim the lustre of his imperishable name—
(hear, hear)—it remained to be seen whether by that sacri-
fice they had removed the only obracle to the earnestness of
their purpose and the unity of their councils. (Loud
cheers.)

Mr. BOUVERIE did not intend to follow the hon.
baronet through the various topics of his speech; bat there
was a matter petal:mai to filmed( in which hie name bad
been connected with resent transactions, in a manner that
bad given the despot* pair to same. (Hear, hear.) He
I 'Mod, therefore, that the house would permit him in a few
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enstencet—(bear, hear)—to justify himself. The statement
to which he referred was that one to the effect that he, on
the part of a number of his colleagues, not in the Cabinet,
had represented to the noble lord, the nimbi, for the City
or London, that they were prepared to reign office rather
than oppose the motion of the hon. baronet. As far es he
was concerned he begged to say most decideoly that the state
meat was not only not a correct representation of the fact, hat
was in deed and fact the very nurse of truth. (Cheers.)
In spite of the criticisms of the hon. baronet on his noble
friend, be did nut hesitate to avow kis strong political
attachment to hie noble friend. (Hear, hear) He still
believed in his integrity, his honour, and his sagacity. If in
any of then recent occurrerees he might be disposed to
question the exercise of the judgment of his noble friend,
he still mast say that the glory of ell he had dole in hie
long career was such as to dussle his vision and p t
him from seeing the spots which might appear as blemishes
on his lair lame. (Hear, hear.) Apart from all this, he
would be unworthy of the distinction of the friendship with
which the noble lord had honoured him frun his first entry
into public life, if, in hie first hour of need, he was to has
found amongskthe number of thine wha, ready in prosperity,
are not to be found in adversity he was not one of those, and
helmeted he should be. The transaction which had
really taken plant was this: he wee aware that there was •
strong impression amongst a number of his consignee, that
the non of the house and the sense of the country was so
strong against the noble lord, that it would be idle for them
to contend against the motion, and be was also aware that
a representation to that effect was like], to be made either
to hie noble friend himself or to the noble viseouot ; he die-
' thistly refused to be a party to any such representation, on
the distinct ground of his personal attachment to his noble
friend—(hear, hear)—bat at the same time he stated, that as
, a friend of the noble lord, whatever hie own opinion might
be, he son ready to convey to him the impression which
' existed on the minds of his colleague. (Laughter and
I sheen.) He was not aerate there was anything
in that proceeding to give an occasion for this
humour, be thought be had acted the part of • true friend
to the noble lord. (Ironical cheers and cheers.) It wee
most painful to himself to discharge snob a task ; he bed
I endeavoured to discharge it to the best of his ability, and
be wee satisfied that his noble friend had Jelly appreciated
, the motives which had induced him to act so. (Cheers and
laughter.)

Lord PALMERSTON—Sir, the resolution to which the
bon, baronet the member for Hertfordshire (Sir E. B. Lyt-
ton) has come does ea much credit to his discretion as his
eloquence generally dose to hie talent ; but at the same
(Ministhna t his.
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taw: tetewenh i.e)6
ne
thre
firstjne t p
lfaacev utrheedb
boat time I have never heard a speech more full of inoonsistencies
I
'lbahrOowle.net,
while the speech of my noble friend was still ringing in his
O&M when my noble friend had just stated that within a
' few days after hie return from Vienna circumstances oc-
curred, or rather came to her knowledge, which convinced
him that the plan which be had thought practicable at
Vienna was no longer practicable, and that, in consequence
of finding it impracticable he abandoned it, end that, hay-
ing given it up, he was heartily preferred to concur in the
vigorous prosecution of the war—while those statements of
my noble friend are still fresh in his memory, the
hocourable baronet goes on arguing as if the con-
trary were the fact—(hear, hear)—as if my noble friend
had from that day to this continued of opinion that the
arrangement was still practicable and proper to be adopted;
and he went on to make that assumption—that groundless
and disproved us caption— (cheers)— that usuuption which
he must have known, if his memory were of ten minutes,
duration, to be unfounded—the foundation of his charge
against my noble friend, and of his impeachment of her
Mejestp's government. (Hear, hear.) Why, air, I am
astonished that the hon. baronet could condescend to such
parliamentary tactics. (Cheers.) But then, forsooth, he
is the man who is to stand up and question other 'members
on the ground of their sincerity. (Renewed cheers.) Why,
sir, upon that point, I give the hon. baronet his chain
between deliberate insincerity or the greatest political igno-
rance. (Loud chitin) The hon. baronet says he approves of
and applauds the despatches of Lord Clarendon, but that
Lord Clarendon, as Secretary of State, is only the organ t
his own individual opinion. Why, does the hen. baronet
believe that SalertiOli ? Did be state what he believed to be
the teeth ? (Chain.) If he did, tie is more grossly igno-
rant—l will not say than any man in this holm—but than
any child who has ever read a newspaper.
Sir B. B. LITTON—I rise to explain. The noble lord
must really excuse me ; he is misrepresenting me alto-
gether. (" Oh, oh," and opposition cheers.) What I
stated was, that I regarded Lord Clarendon as the reprnen-
tative of hie own opiniens—(cheere from the ministerial
ride); I did not say that he was not the representative of
the opinions of others. I consider the noble siseount
responsible, 'schist minister, for the opinions of the entire
eabizet. That is, I think, a very fair representation.
Lord PALMERSTON—I feel very much obliged to the
hon. baronet for his explanation, which leaves the matter
just where I put it. (Cheers.) It reminds roe of the well-
known question: "Who should interpret for the interpreter?"
(Laughter.) The bon. baronet's explanation itself requires,
I think, somebody to explain it. (Renewed laughter.) He
admits what I stated ; he cannot deny whet is so recent.
He stated distinctly, that Lord Clarendon was the organ and
exponent of hie own opinions. And he drew a contrast. He
said—" The noble lord, the bead of the government, speaks
fir the government ; Lord Clarendon speaks ter himself.
I should like to know what were the lettere which the noble
viscount wrote to the noble lord the member for
London." When .he said that, there was a derisive
cheer from this side of the house, which said,
in effect—" Does not the honourable baronet know that
the official correspondences with a minister plenipotentiary
abroad is carried on by the Secretary of State, and not by
the First Lord of the Treasury ?" (Laughter.) I repeat,
therefore, that I offer the hon. baronet his choice between
deliberate insincerity and gross ignorance. (Loud cheers.)
Sir, I again say that I wonder how a man of the hon. ba-
ronet's standing-4 mat who has been given out as one who
Is to hold high office in the government that is to coma—
(laughter)—ceuld use such language. The hoe. baronet
said that these repeated changed of ministers make us the
ridicule of Europe. Why, Sir, there might be a change of
gewerament which would make us still more the ridicule of
Z"wonted sound of a clapping of hewn.) Such, I think,
would th Ch
the hon. baronet were to
d
hold a high situation in this country. (Laughter.) The
(e case
if an s
sn laughter,like
hon. baronet wants to know whether Lord Clarendon spoke
ar
and wrote the opinions of the government. I say he did
speak and write the opinions of the united cabinet. I say I
have spoken the opinions of the united cabinet ; and I
defy the hon. baronet, or any of those who sit by him, to
taunting or to quote any opinion expressed by me, either in
this house or out of it, which does not tally with the dew
Pseenca of Lord Clarendon. (Cheers.) Sir, I wonder that hen,
gentlemen can condsseend, from party motives, which they
are compelhed afterwards to disavow, to these unworthy
parliamentary maamavree, which must lower them lathe
estimation of the country. Well then, sir, the hon. baronet
blows hot and cold almost in the same breath. Be begins
hie speech by taunting the government with having *seri-
Geed a victim for the purpose of avoiding a storm, awl then,
in the conclusion of his speech, he abuses the government
for not having emptied the volunthey tender of resit/mafiosi
on the part of my noble friend. Can the hones reconcile
thine two (Mop ? (Hear, knr,) I deny

the charge. tad

I seer* the rem's*. ebb we did sot merlike my noble
friend. I did &slim his sea of resigned= when he pee
It me as Kosday i sad men ea Thursday, wises he told
•me ho had made up his stied is resits hie Meatier, I Mid
Ida diet it wes set for no tejoiterthat the goestios
bM
warmed a mbar se pasclimit perusal to himself, that 1
mad sot retied to give him advise as to the meet
whisk he should mom' but I told him, slant
that if, *ma rt beim, he thought it would he
I should be prepared tit AM
beam to stay in,
the ben. besseet—(misisteriel sheen)—to has 11s
with the goverment as it them stood, sad to stand sp hers
end Woad the nurse whisk I was ready to mum.
(Cheers.) I my that there was so amides ef a vials.
(Hoar, hear.) The mane whisk my Roble friend adopted
wee that which was met maistrat with his ewe helixes
but I say that, so far frees demist it
,a retread that I did
not sant his resimastim I should have thesght it sa•
worthy of myself, end *earthy of the tomatoes& to adopt
that course MIA the hes. barest was pleased to mention
at the Weenie, of \karma. Now, air, the has. baronet
witless a very oatmeal with, sad very agreeable
the estertaismost would so doubt be if the wish
wire hillillod—to clam every member of the p.
tensest elm the stool of emmisatio• ; sad to
ask him what he Alike se this matter sad of that.
Now tell las what you shish about the war ? Are you of
episioa that it was wise es go to the Bea of Aso,? Do you
talk it would be better to leave Rapatocla ? What Is your
*aim about the state of Babbler& ? I have no doubt it
would be very entertaining for the hon. baronet to ask a
gnat many members of the cabinet gusatioos of that kind.
(Hew, hest.) But I beg Mee to tell him, is the same of
say optimum, that there is no division of Maim in the
'shiest ; that we are all Masted by the same determina-
tion to carry oar thp war within the vigour with mid* the
emouress of this wintry may provide us, mill we
shall be able to acemplish a pesos safe tad he-
mutable mid moisten with the objects for which
this war was ememissed. (Chem.) Sir, I say Ma that
the hos. baronet tabrepremeted my mid' Abed; sad I
my Me that ke sostradiehed himself over and ever again,'
TM may Mot es which I sea empatulate the hos. baroast
is the disunities white he hoe shows la shrink* from that
mutest of which he bad gives se sotloe. (Cheers, sad
laughter.) He said kis sharp wee sot diluted mural
staked my noble kited, but theisded the whole of the go-
versmest. Here we ere, reedy to meet him face to hies
—(loud miabterial eleses)—and Mee the lamentable
essi-
bitioa which he has made this evesisg, we shall as fast (se
was andentood) to impose meshes to the dame, of that
Beropeas ridicule whisk, sisordist to the 'tetanal of the
hos. beroset himself, would Mead that clasp of wetn
mat which it was the object of his adios to kin about.
(Chem.)
Mr. DISRABLI sail he should hardly have thought it
seemeary to mite lay remarks, after the short address M
the noble lord, were it sot that • tribute et ~ten was
An to tiny isdieidual who filled the vary eminent poetise
sot only of First Minister, but loader of the House ef
Cosmos. He messed the house would emus him fae
making a few comments ea the 'smallish* Wiesen Wish
it hod just based (Owens 'Meer) What
was the statement whin the vain lord had men that
sight ? He had end the wean he she City ef Leader
nee bask tram Visas end preassed swain terns he
me. These teen were densened bah by the Beale el
Cemmaas NA the natty. Dee *et wee nut the name
why Oho win Ind did an siege time vanes The seem
wasthaser ally would use ewe le aren. Peer, beat)
The Less Mbi Brass, est iii*Coists, hes Wilms
*et II inns bed letweisd no dl nNy, the lean upon
whin tide peat war was to he andeded were
is diem these brought by the sable Led (Lasd J. Res-
eal) has. Vaasa. (" No," beet the Ineougg beach.)
Sew am said " No.' All ha wished was that sone of the
mclostsee of the rouble lend would get up and speak for
Illiereless. (Chain.) Inset& lard meld set sus* again,
let thsee were pise * of his asikagess. (Ober)) Lot
lben WNW thew- seises. He mania repeat that the
Wig Memo which be add ism Me the rush and en
menses enema- M In Wile bed mese OW Hie=
Of geideolin With *embalm* the weaker ks
=itweld ben ben meigesil had ea keen de the
whin men ben itensis Has.. they new,
iehrearrally, what wen the objesie fer which the gown.
*Pat wen now prolongisg am wee, nod he wend pat it to
Yen hew, it this be the stele of lbws% hew mid may one
*Mil the induct of the mein lerd, who had Men pro-
claimed to the would ea emeatially the war minister for
aI&adPALMERISTON—I rise to 'spiels. What I
Win was that the opinion et my noble friend (Lewd J.
mrepleM as to the preetimbilley of Malone( these terms was
by eirsumstesess whisk faros to his knowledge
s rook after his return. But I sever stated that
emir wee the Win of the rest of the cabinet, or my own
opines. Oe Ile sennityt I Meted the wry seven foe I
sad that the lesenege of LW Olareedee is despabes
—WI* is gab igen* Is lbw as
the
t=tled if
We giant Ihs whole el the
ed d mania wet poraseliter, (Ism hear.)
Mr. DISHAILI defend that thereat/sherd% explanation
at ell weekend the nee of Ms ayumast. Is consegnsma
et the eireememeess to whisk eyudss had bees mace the
sable load (idlesesil) almeneed his Mee mid remained is
Ys sablmatt eel fe emegesese. he supposed, et those
seen Nrenmalmaes, these eine ammhas We had been of
the pan nine— " Nose," from Lied Palmentoo)—re-
mend also. Hs ( r. Disraeli)) woad imagine the min
lord (Palwan) adenerieg his tease, end saying :
" Gestlenene—Ciresamiseas hove enured which render
it impossible se woe eet ggepoides • wit my. then
fen, at nee Mean it So ihe Oahe 'el
schemes." The wino ef the mss Mtn gmermain Weed
upon this feet, that shonmeteesse emend, via, the SW
duet of the French governess., whisk rendered it
unessesar4 ler theansot asy
hie Manse heat tile.
lamiL am it
lsi those elteaustesess met eetswel, the
Neat meld Mee accepted these terms, and it pose =
Wei Men ihmegh parliammat I sad admitting this lan
we% what wee the Neese es Honk of the noble lord, wits
was mentially • war soblelso--elbet ewe they to think et
blo modest to his late selleigese, the swan for Carlisle
rJ. err )mad his Maas 1 This WY net • subjeall
g. The house might to Mew dimindy
=le use it was the last that Ike sale lad (I. Ism
addi aninalealed with others et ble thee lbws
whom maw appear se the germ Ware hew % eel
whathes he Ali or tW sot wesseeleete le thin the solibe
sad spirit of the peaty Wl* was donning osier lb
Venat Timm. (Hier, hear.) Did- the sails
resetve any disoeuming reply from Wm IP
Cr:) He (lit. Dkraslo had reason to MUM
* comeassiestiose were made, that the noble
bed did sot nodes lush • reply, and he thought that
at Mast Mime' from this esereemedesee ought to he lea
en the table. Was it afoot or sot that the French minister
eseumaicated with the authorities at Par% while he was at
View t Did he receive a reply which was f hie to
east (imposition, and was sot that reply soessinsieated to
the noble lord the member for the City? Did not the sable
lord the isesiber for the City munualeate them (acts to
his sollesgues ? and did sot—he would set say a ocispact—
but a general andentandiag, Mat between both were
meats that these terms would he speed to Was it not a
fast that there wee at least a day—he (Mr.
Disraeli) believed it was a mesh longer peeled—whoa these
tames were sordidly accepted by the government is
Loadea ? (" No," from the Trsasui bomb.) He (Mr.
Disraeli) remembered six weeks ego making • speech ape.
the ambiguous coed set of the government, aid he heard thou
the same cries of " No, so," iron the Treasury bemb. He
did not know whether the present session would lit six
weeks, but if it did, be believed that the remarks which Its
was than making would be proved to he correct. He would
ealy add that the information upon which he based those
ebeetemtioas same from a quarter is which be placed the
highest confidence. And yet they ware told that they were
'outing " Much Ado 'butt Nothing." Two years ago the
aosatry wee involved in diphimatic negotiations, upon a
Rest important subject. Did any member of that house
rise and put a quintile and told, "Do not prate
your quashes; you will embower our negotiations"
What was the result of those negotiations? The great**
diplomas defeat which this country had knows. Another
year ISM. The country wm involved M war. DM
any maker the. rise and ask for informants, and wet
by " gee will inform the enemy .1 ter apeMees
end .stems the wens of the war" ? The nosed pee
hod et Inge ens Then all was silent— a foreign does.
sent
•=1 Ye mind of the country was agitated,MOO that these wee guilt is the anasagretent
of
ekliw—the be tolled Is gob to some Mee to • Gee House
et Otwwito ghe owes= "hi* Mee many at vantage
wits ent ineestinst lib hedge newest appeared,
gLeatirri inelies=learti nun What
set asst ie
wk.:tweed.;
Wl* am* s wean wield being !award. H. !runoff-
MeV Melted I. who Me a r -of a qmrter of

pea sad kid himself is the back beaches; he disappeered
ism vas Treasury Mesh. The tidal his. gentleman (Kr.
illeasii) had behaved to the noel Men reposes ei •
"NW of • century ; I fear that ObeaFritatift Media.
append also. The moble lei tangy hig delY to
Mgebed, to this bone, to • benei, *ma.
gaimunsurs.) Weselo ebis be mkt ems, In
eseeseethes of • midst of whisk I-gave mode. is this
hew the noble lord toting hem the goveremeat of lord
Abeedsol, and, is rote*, left bolded him a speech,
• Is fast, *the op that cabinet. Then, like Seek
is the bea, be tons sp at View. There he is estnetedi
with the Past *tenets of Ws great emetry. He genthein
with &Petite lestrestione—lestreetioes which do the sells
lord the Foreign Sesenary groat hew& Whim there, emu
tan proposals are mode—they ore said to ken been mode
by the Antrim minister. To these proposals the noble Mel
saint. Hs suggests this to his saltiest with s sipilloset
paragraph at the end Ml* Mese to this effect :—" I hope
no
decisive newer wIU be gins to his proposition before
I am heed." The noble lord ensue to this hoes is his
Atareeter of • member el the sabinet. The quieten of the
aoafereacts is hen& before this hewer. He has been
heard, the cabinet Mew his opium, they know the greyed
of them °Melons. When the noble lord ow to this hoses
he ease to led his coodeet as a minister impugned.
Now I will appeal to this boogie—l will appeal to every
hos. masher who recollects the speech of the "able lord
es the 34th May, whether in that speech its did mot adore
himself an uscompromialog advocate of the war. Did he
in that speech give us to endentand that the negotiations
had bees es married on, that be had received proposals for
pease from the Austrian minister which had east his
approval? (Hear, bear.) Did he not lead the bow—l
sore he led me—(bear, hear)—to an opinion which pee to
the noble lord et the head of the goverment • large
majority on that occasion? (Hoer, hen.) Now, I will
make • soefeesion to this house. I cams to this hones upon
the 24th May fally attending to vote with the right Me.
wawa (Hr. Disraeli). la gmei el this I may make
one statement. I remind • liebelreth the noble lord at the
item* d hag Majoste's governing Wan me to want
of hie Meal owing to that dismism. Peeing within
=VMS I uses as* to oppose the milde bed,
,etsddid net
lint mealleg. I felt it we me peal* see. Bet I
wsl well the aside bed. Why ? Maw dile epee**
the eside hid the Wale, fee the City of Lease. I sell
to metal Whom I ow le Ibis Meet, "I will Mt tete he
divided est." I tingle tnat the wits ised—amd
it is that these MOS theoug the M% nil
every gain of it, • nenwar to that.hob—woomming
down to make a peas "seek Issue/ of doing See is
made a *pew eaden*a en Mods. I ell we We me
a embed emblem. I the use the denim el swan suit a
shiest. TM noble kid navies* me; I wee
sad well with kis. He seetised_ wen me a ieseirse=.
I say that the melds lord is the heel of hoe Illelomlre p.
venom* entimod with that isseit—(theen)—end I am
this is set doing your duty with truth sod hewn The
. weeds which were as the lips Ode noble bed did eel ems
from his Mart. He mese down to this hew and urged me
to war, whim be Wawa was ia fewer el peen. Bat Ile
Roble bird sap that after be seas hen View and arrived
in Load= eireuesstacces osonesi which altered his
opinion. The right boa. gnaws (Kr. Disraeli) nye
these einemstanses were the inns** el France. The
sable lard at the heed el the min no Seth
thing. [Lon Palmerston-1. Ns.] The while lord soya
.• No." Thee it was the oppositios d Flew t [Lied
Psimereten—" I did sot say so.") This is sample of the
annigeries phrases at the government. (Cheers) When the
right boa. gentlinsaa (Mr. Disraeli) aye that then drew
steams wen the opposition of Frew, thimble lord denies
that is* Now, however, he demise his desisl.
Bet I ny U it is not the opposition of Frew, we
tan • 41tt to know what it is. (Owe.) We
have had two sets of pepers planed tapes the
table, the 13th and the 16th. The 13th set were placed upon
the table penises to the 24th Kay, and they were needed
to eased to this hens Imiermetien_ open the subjeet et the
esetheenese. Did they eked Ike MOW imantation with
nosed either to the easiest at tie bed the membee
for the City or of the AOSIIISS minter ? Thee, I say
again, that the noble Mid all the head of the government
hes penal in (halt, for it was ken his hand that them
CtIsNSW And I want to knew who else is with the
led—l meat to know who are the traitors is Ile
oaten I (Hoer, hear.) I want to know what is the opiate
el the eight lea. baronet the Home Secretary epos the
sere; I want to know the opines el the Chancellor et the
liesinner, sad what is the opiates of the First Lord el
the Admiralty. It is my slaw head that they coincided
with the noble hoed when lie mew* bens Vienna.
I my this es far him having ma mania* oddest, we have
sae whisk is mot eantieg am the war with their whole ban
smi reisdOse they en abided wag themselves, end •
great number of Si. seen with the wile hind.
Sir 0. GREY—As the males el the hen. baronet is to
be withdrawn, I Amid When the/tight it roman tem
anything had it mot bees /se the mmertions pointedly mule
by the has, sal isms* gentiemea (Mr. Rosbuck)—witi.
out his hating Wes* sae last in support of them--thet
then were members of the cabinet who thought that the
'Austrian proposal brought by my noble friend (Lori 1.
Bessell), and discuseed in the ethiset is the lint week in
May, ought to be adopted. He Ms dons me the honour to
all open me by ante to state whether I was one of those
mombere. I decline to answer the %maion of the bon. lei
kens& samba. (Laughter.) Is this estuary, if I. as •
menthe, of • fishnet, in my speech, here or elsewhere, beil
wpm* opimiens, or had done say set calculated to throw
sespision spec the sinserity of my °seduce, I should have
kit that any hoe. member had a right to call upon
me for say explanation of whet I had said es
dose, and to require me to vindicate my was&
Bat when the boa. sad learned member stades te War
maws whisk have no • Menace, save ia his own
I my that lobed* demean myself ia the Me el titraleseliZe
of the esesMyftl attempted any enseeeete his obeenteisms.
The papaw MO new an the table ehswkg the rem* el tie
deliberations el the saint with rehremse to the Amoeba
proposals, Wale maths that inducted** eshiset's rejection
of them are eine en the table, expremei In his noble friend
the Secretary be Finns Affairs is bump which I tidal
has Milted the universal approbstin deb house, inept
those who think absolutely that the war ought to be termi-
nated and peace restored. (Cheers.) I feel bond by those
papers, as the record of the opinions of the cabinet. As n
member of the cabinet I sen responsible for its eats,
sad I deny the right of any member of this
house to bring forward without proof the argument
that I, in my individual capacity, hold opinions differing
from those of the majority of my oollesgen. The right
hos. gentlemen opposite did, I think, something of the
same kind whom is shre the government with using
ambiguous howas reepeeting the correspondence which
has bees kid Were this hone ; and when he asp that he
iseetrmla• se private information from sources not
to this hew On the strength of that info:me-
an be Mime span himself, in his place in parliament, to
alba that *re was • time when my noble friend et the
Mad of the neeenwee mew* his opinion in f of
the.. Ansle propessis. Mr, to that general state.
meat that time was a time when the cabinet
sensidered—l am sot speaking is my own wee,
keg is that of the goverment—when the rabbet
othsthered that the Austria. proposals might he
sesegesd, 1 give the most sequoia** emendietion. (Hut,
Max) The prone, alluded to was M doubt seesidered is
the othiett, sad here I must my that I heard with
the web made by my noble treed the member for
ism em the 6th, because the elsilmessMe is that speech wen
moth "West to my noble friend idesseif. My noble triad
=t the propositions home them Vienna, having per
requested that they might net be rejected without
hie hag hoes Mud in their defence. The propoiltione
now dimmed dories the weekarimbeginningor the Slat Ap-13,
PthLthe 7th of Kay, sad d that Illessids• my Wl*
OW his Me*, elier seashomeof the ablest Wired
e dissumiss. with the new el main to the oesehelen
mat likely to be ontiesive to the Wens* of the .entry,
mod at the elan of She week I should lave been prepay*
to assert in wusaleil hems that the unseissom decision
of the es Meet as OM the Were* *the sentry required
that the Ameba pragesis should be sejested. (keeled
cheers.) I sholinge, an, the right ion. gentleman fee
the proof el his swam that at say period the emblem
monied an agues thimenble to these peopositiess. On
the coetrary, tom mini at se summons eensinsiee—esese
might have bees banns* by one nesse, *hem by ass-
Cher—bat at last we arrived at the usselmene esnehnen
that the duty of the govethmest sod the Weals et the
coney required the the Amoeba .p.-hiss should be
rztat It wee steeled. end the dispeesk onetaining the
f was onmeseined Os every 11111111ber of the cabinet
before it wee soot • I I, sad received the cordial sad naenl-
awus of MI. (Hear, hear.) It le now said that
my nets freed peals* a dwelt it the house on the 24th
of May, when he ingosslai a vigorous war, and that we
were partaken Is the deceit for not having remoestrated
einem the thieremese to be deem front his state-
- --As. I May, lir., that either government or my
.
He

repetition .
• 'canary ; bed relbeneed perlissient ; ;rho bad
told the hews tweety times, sad it was to his credit,
that 'us wee the eltaateita of eivil sad religiose liberty ; who
had bees osanseted for a tine with so lees a
117" then Sir Robert Peal; he dared sot meet the do-
(Ow.) Bet who dared soot it T—(bear)—thet
Arse seisieuer of the crown, who had addressed the hue
that sicbt MIMI/ .114 r langsage latterly unworthy
his poctiea—(;ben)—attelly =worthy of the eetweion—
(hear, hear) ; who bad shows that night that if the hemmer
and ice' *ay Weer a-

sehle f 4ss& woos aim sable with -such &wit.
war is briump la w blab all bla °onuseee
paellelpesed what Is lei Oa loses to believe that he wee
ouniesed tr bums ad Mama d du °pantry required
that Me Auld= pregmele abseil be sdoeted, sad that ad
mum abseil be lobes le beles the wet is the Crimea to
estualmt amdmims. The epee* of my noble Mead wee
la ha ewe Or odd& aim *bit esWessoe maid Mi.
Mumbled, meleisedi ao doubt hie sirs beast sled osmiut
embvietiese, mad hemembad ssdeabledly with the NMI
'sesta of the r kW`

THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY EVENING, JULY 17, 1855.

daimons, but with most imperfect informailec in respect
so tea qmstica leader discussion—it appears, I say, quite
1"15 W owe Oaf there Meet .be sic eddy ma
INV dilesesion es tee ent4set. (War, bear )
At vs:4llB:l=evese is the WIN otibe dialeahiss y which
we an Meemposeed, Ore papers rake PM googliess arK,
whickh is desirable that the ipmermiont should hole the
oppertnaity of giving the Wiest intesmatioa asd, espisaa..
Um, comely, es regards the obi:Wks that was eo thoot te
isosamuleate luny to the home parrs, ,when apes those
pipets are to be raised solema die:seeks., wed on two oto
abe based solemn desisisen. (Hear, beer) The ant
objection I Issas to take Is to the epees& delivered by my
noble &lead the seer.ber to London ea the 24th May.
I do net wish to overstate or exonerate the Inspertame
of that special us a demoastratios is favour of a warlike

the expregili.

TO CORRESPONDENTS.
Atteediemewbsteteeded tte Loren," Lallans Eveehig gem
weet be Ibe OKse. Oeues. by Two Vele* es the
day et patitlesties.

Wigs 84 lib MIMI slimly la ay own neolleetioa, that
SISSIIIIhe ,into if the dissuasion, and speaking before
es, litedier of the governmest had uttered ea *piece, I
einstered to my that it appeared to sae that the last two pro-
widow of the Reda& pisaipotentiary, iastead of being
summarily rejected, ought to have been treated as the start
W to for further oessaNsbation, lay noble *feed, tol-
taa that debate, deaweaord in toe wagged tenni
these r roposals—(heer, hear)--and eves west so
far as M say that, rather than adult terms mbereatially
earroepaging with those proposals, it would be better
sec to have thrown over the third point altogether,
NA
your inability to de.l with it. (Hear, bear )
I Mint ennibes that having throe mapliatie words of my
debit hind fresh in my recollectioa, it was with eoneider-
• IMlgnies I read the letter I dad in the Bth page of
One impatahot, in which he, ea his own part sad as that
of the Preach Imbrium. proposes to her Majesty's -
INN aortas plans for the settlement of the q I
here no doubt bat that sort montboro at Ede
hem have read thaw papers, and shall at them
One road than farther than that potties et pp
8, in which my noble friend says—" If other hops Is
lost, I wish to propose to the eonfereitee the following plea.
The French miaister is (avowable to it. Austria will suet
support any demand for cession of territory.. AN theta
he pressed* to detail the plan which had precisely the
same hods as that which my noble friend sehregeently eon-
deemed in this hoes*. (Rear' bear.) This is net a pos.
tiaa otthe Nome_ prepood by Austria, this la a Ultima pro-
vost Om the Belli* miebtar, end it sown to se to re-
eemmeil to the roversetsat tomes terms width la every
oebelwatial point opts with those of the Russian
piodpelwatiary.
The motion was thee withdrawn.
DOWNING-STREET PUBLIC OFFICES BILL.

AM, sae se two oboortations from Ba H. WlLLoyeas
sad Me. W. Waitehe, the house went into 0:0110littil0 01
this MIL _ _

TM several &uses ware you through, sad the bill wi
wired to be reported.
MERCHANT SHIPPING ACT AMENDMI
This bill as amended was *ea passed.
SCHOOLS (SCOTLAND) BILL.
Oa the 'soden that the ceased reading of this bill be
postponed till Mouthy,
Mr. ELLIOT Moved that it read • second time that day
three mouths. The object of the bill wee provided for by
the bill which had reeestly pored the house.
After a soaverestiois, the house divided ea the question
that the words "that day week" stand part of the
AyrAy
Now B4-19
The bill was consequently lost.
FRIENDLY SOCIETIES BILL.
_

IT BILL.

HAD Sir BITLWER LTITOST persisted in his motion
the result of the debate would, no doubt, have affected
the interests of the pbople. Nothing can be said or
done in the Legislature that does not affect the inte-
rests of the people, directly or indirectly, more or less.
But the interest of the people in the success of Sir
HULWEI Lrrrox's motion was ssomlary and incon-
siderable. By wafting his censure to the delin-
quencies of one minister in the first place, end to the
distrust incurred by his colleagues for concealing
those delinquencies in the second, Sir BULWER
Linos evaded a discussion of the broad general
grounds on which Ministers have forfeited the public
confidence. The very utmost he could hue ob-
tained, had a majority voted with him, would
have been a change of Ministry. The successors
whom that event would have given to the present
Government might have persevered in its temporising
and inexplicable policy—in its nepotism and blunders
of all sorts—on the plea that no positive and express
censure had been pronounced on it by the House
of Common.. To have had the Duke of NORTHOX-
RIRLAND and Mr. STAITORD reinstated in the
places new occupied by Sir CHARLES WOOD and Mr.
BIRNAL OSBORNE would certainly have been no ices
for the nation, but as certainly it would have been
no gain. The only advantage that could have
. accrued to the nation, from the triumph of Sir Sm.-
wax LTrrox and his friends, in the party contest to
which he dared ministers, would have been some
possible alight accession of strength to the popular
cause from the mutual weakening of the two faction..

EIGE WATER AT LONDON BRIDGE.
Taos DAy—Kondag. A. Y. fis.
To-isoaaow—liastai O. s7m Annum. 4k. Us.

L 016021, TUESDAY, JULY 17.

The Lords' Us;;d;.;;t.t; Wig iiiiWen7cosidered, and
after some farther ansendemit they were speed to.
MORTMAIN BILL.
This bill was read a third time.
DISSENTERS' MARRIAGES BILL.
On the order of the day for the further proceeding oa the
third readin of this bill,
Mr. CHERTHAM moved to leave out clams 8 sad insert
salaam providing that the notice of the intended marriage
shall be suspended in the office of the superintendent re.
gistrar dmtpli suesessive days before the solemnisation
ass&
Mr. Ci7iffiiit opposed the ameadment, on the ground
that the registrar's dies was not a safileiestly public place.
Mr. CHRETHAM persisted in his motion, and after
some remarks from Mr. Hatay, it was agreed to by Sir
Gaortos Gamy, and the clause was added.
Some other slight amendments were made, sad the bill
was read a third time and passed.
THE SEBASTOPOL COMMITTEE.
Mr. SPOONER asked the hon. sad learned pnesman
the member for Sheffield whether Its meant Is bring for-
ward his motion apes the *abject of the may in the Crimea ?
Mr. ROEBUCK—I certainly do intend to bring it for-
ward this day (Tuesday).
The Clerk i :then read the; resolution of which Mr.
it-iTteli has given notice.
obtained leave to bring in a bill to provide
for the vaccination of the people of Basland and Wales.
The SOLICITOR-GENERAL for IRELAND obtained
leave to bring in a bill to slier the constitution of the Irish
Court of Chancery, and to supersede the Encumbered
Estates Court.
The house adjourned at five minutes past one.

It is less the Ministers than the House of Commons
that are put upon their trial by Mr. ROEBUCK'S
motion. A dissolution and a general eleation can-
not in any circumstances be far distant. The nation
yearns for a new House of Commons : it has lost all
faith in the old. There is not a fireside in the country
that does not mourn for the loos of one or more of its
"old familiar faces," sacrificed to the jobbing, inca-
pacity, and want of principle of Government
There is not a man, woman, or child in
the empire but sees that the lack of ability
and high principle in Parliament is the only
thing that keeps a weak and unprincipled
Administration in place. There is not a reflecting
man among us who does not see in the perpetuation
of a Government branded by the national distrust,
and of its catspaws in the Legislature, a dreary
prospect of national reverses, profitless expenditure
of blood and money, and possible anarchy. The
muttered demand of the people for a dissolution and
general election Jo already making itself heard in low
ominous whispers here and there, and will soon break
out into one loud, general, irresistible clamour. On
the other hand, the very rulers whose sins of omis-
sion and commission are condoned by the present'
House of Commons, are anxious to get rid of it. They
know that for the tolerance the House has shown
them they are indebted to no love it bears them, but
solely to its vices and its fears. They are well aware
that the precarious support they receive from it, is
reluctantly, grudgingly, ungraciously bestowed.
Like desperate gamesters, they are ready to set their
all upon the cut of a die, and risk the return of a
hostile House of Commons on the chance of
their being able, by Treasury and other sinis-
ter influences, to obtain one packed with • ma-
jority of their creatures. The common talk at
Snoozing's, and other Dom-Daniels of the
faction in power is, that the present House
of Commons is growing daily more un-
manageable, and must be got rid of. It
is well known that the PREMIER had made
op his mind, in the event of his being wonted in
the contest from which Sir Burman Lrrrox last
night withdrew, to try the chances of a general
election before he resigned. Tits respite granted to
Ministers, in consequence of the reluctant self-
sacrifice of Lord JOHN RUSSELL cannot be of long
duration. The characters of all parties in the Govern-
ment have been so damaged by the late shabby
transactions that their weakness has been immensely
increased. A dissolution is imminent, and the people
are eagerly watching to see how every representative
will vote on Mr. ROEBUCK'S motion. Every member
of the House of Commons who votes against that

'gig frourt.

OSBORNE, JULY 16.

The Queen and Prince, the Prince of Wale.,
Primo Alfred, and Prisons Aline, attended by the Ladies
and Gentlemen in Waiting, west to Whippingham Chartsh
yesterday morning, where the Rev. George Prather** per.
formed the envie,.

motion—or who shirks the division—will have to
account for his conduct at the hustings on an early
day.

The fate of the people of England is about to be
placed in their own hands. If they wish to avoid
the horrors of last winter's decimation of a gallant
army in the Crimea by cold, hanger, and disease—if
they wish to avoid seeing an inglorious war wound
up by an unsafe and ignominious peace—if they wish
to put an end to that nepotism and patronage of
worthless paruitss which has been the source of all
these evils—if, in short, they want a Government
honest and powerful for good—they must bestir
themselves immediately to return an honest, intelli-
gent, and sturdy House of Commons. The electors
in every constituency who are alive to the urgency
of the crisis ought to set to work Immediately. No
man ought to allow himself to be deterred by false
shame—by fears that people will ask what right he
has to move first. Let him be prepared to answer
all cavillers by saying : "If I am lint to move, it is
because you are laggards." The great danger for
the country ia in that apathy and indolence which
induces electors to abstain from seeking out and
bringing forward proper candidates until it is too
late. Constituencies are thus obliged eithec to put
up with approved incompetencies, or to take upon
nut some forward fellows who may, for aught they
know, prove worse than their predecessor.. All
the mismanagement, all the suffering, all the dis-
grace that has hitherto befallen the country in the
present war, are fairly attributable to Government
and Parliament—for all that may ensue the people
themselves most be held responsible.

Tin wpm:tallow which were excited by the note
of preparation fora pitched battle of parties were
yesterday doomed to disappointment. No battle in
feet took place; nothing bat a series of parleying*
and preluding*, fee the most part vain and vapid
. . _ _