The Express.
London, England, 1855-02-08 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

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HOUSE OF OOMMONS--WEIMIIIIDAY, FEB. 7.
TM Srmzaz took the shah at twelve AIM.
COURT OF CHANCERY (LEELAND).
Kr. WHITE/IDE pa Mho 4k as Wegoseday, the
glee, he would introlose a Realter of DBIB kr the reline
of the Coact of Chamary in band, viz., a bill to abolish
the Masters' Ages ; a bill Is mend the procedure ; a bill
to regulate the wake aft Merl with Mond to the AP
adamant of reeshogal 11111 to MINIM the seis of Mateo
seder the 'Waft of the Genet ell Chearsey ; a bill to
remove the emu of delay sad soma lookiest to appeolot
sad a bill to regulate fess sad eshries.
SERGEANT SULLIVAN.
Mr. F. FRENCH gave notice that the sat time he saw
the Debts lord the ember for Tiverton in his plea, be
would ask what were the reasons why Sergeant Wie*
veto had tarried the colours of the 30th Regiment at tha
Wale of the Alms, sad had been specially eamendei
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General Evans for his gallantry, had not bees peensaelf
THE NEW MINISTRY.
Mr. HATTER roes and said—l big to more, sir, that dm
Speaker do Mae his warrant to the Clerk of the Crows to
mks out • writ for the election of a besiege to sera Is lib
parliament for the borough of Tiverton—Ow. Mss')—i4
the room of the Right Hon. Hem J. Vilma Paintrallwe
who, linos his clause for the said Wm" bee assillea
the oleos of First Commissioner Mr eve/sue lbe ale of
Lord High Tremors: of Groat Britain and Tinging dal
Essliequer It Ireland. (Beer, hear.)
The Sramtaa having pet the question,
Mr. HATTER aria rose, and moved that a well Iwo
for the elcctioa of a knight of the shire for the soilbess
division of Wiltshire, is the room of the Right lies. film
Hubert, who Bice* his election had aceepte4 the also of
am of her Majesty's Principal Sonetarise of State. (Hear.)
PUBLIC LIBRARIES AND MUSEUMS BILL.
Oa the motion of Mr. EwAir, this bill was mad asetentd
time.

_....,isSTART ORDNANCE ESTIMATES.
COURSE OF PUBLIC BUSINESS.
The order of the day for going iota committee of supply
bora, been read,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said—l beg
to move, sir, that you do now leave the chair, in order that
the house may go into a committee of supply. In the con-
mitre, I purpose to take the vote on account of
the supplementary estimate for the Ordnance Depart.
meet of which my right honourable friend, who has
sines accepted the *Mee of Secretary of State, gave
notice yesterday. The government are of opinion that A
will most probably he the wish of the house not to proceed
with any bluing's liaises what is of absolute necessity until
those who have accepted or changed their ears la her
Majesty's government, or, at the rut, the chief members
of 1., have resumed their seats; it word probably be fined
inconvenient to proceed with any important business is
their absence. As far as the government are coseerned, it
will be quite convenient to them to go on with any bll5
sow standing on the votes of the house, if there shall be any
expression of opinion on the part of the house to show that
such is their desire. But I submit such& course will hardly
be deemed expedient. The first important public busies.
which the government propose to take will be the navy
estimates. I intend to fix Friday week for that purpose, be-
cause it will not be possible for my right hoe, friend the First
Lord of the Admiralty, who hu been seriously indisposed for
some time, to undertake to move them beforktbat day. I hope
he will then be present; but if sot we will make some
arrangement for bringing them oa. With respect to the
vete which I propose to take to-day, it will only be mow
may to remind the house of the restrictions which the rules
and regulations of the house impose on the government
with regard to the public money. The house will bear In
naiad not only that all money to be raised must be raised
by their authority, but the money when raised causal be
appropriated to the particular senior without a farther
parliamentary sanction. The effect of these usages sad re-
Unctions is, that this money, though legally raised, esiMill
be appropriated without a small ways and means bill. Is
consequence of the excess of expenditure in the ordnenie
and navy department, it wu found necessary to propos
supplemental estimates for the present year for the de-
partments—in the first place, to authorise a farther expen-
diture of money for those services ; and secondly, to
authorise the use for such purpose of so much money. The
operation of the rules to which I have referred ray be
attended with some inconvenience in each cases, for we
mount, without • ways and means bill, use the wormy
furnished for these purposes. What we now ask is we ad-
dition to the Ways and Means Bill of last session. It is
sot in the power of the government to proms* an absolute
adjournment of the house till next Friday week; but is
the eowindtbse I will only ask for a vote on account of the
ordnance estimate. This will preserve for any hon. gen-
tleman full liberty of discussion. When the ramrods, of
the vote is brought os, full opportunity of discussion will be
gives ; but I trust the house will now make so objection,
and throw no difficulties la the way of providing for the
exigencies of the public service. It may be necessary to
ask foe some other vote before we resume business. If the
house sow gnat the vote, I proper the resolution should
be reported Otemonow ; in the meantime we will carefully
examine whether there is any other sum of money that it
will be absolutely necessary to provide before Friday week,
in order that we may not, without asperity, give the house
the trouble of meeting every day for men formal business.
You will also, sir, be able to inform us whether it will be
convenient that we should meet foe the purpose of forward-
ing private bills. To-monow I hope to be able to announce
what arrangement will be found wavenleat. The vote /
now wish to take will not be the slightest obstacle to the
fullest discussion of any item by boa. umbers, as the re-
sidue will still remain to be voted, and afford full opportu-
nity. I therefore move, air, that you do leave the chair.
Mr H. WILLOUGHBY thrombi the mune reposed
we. most irregular. The hems gestalts by entlehe. Lod
Crht the right bon. sestinas. the Iserdney hi the
onies had told them that nothing but some *meg bed-
mos would be taken. This monist; they see is the mew
" Mr. Secreterrat-War—Vote on sotount—Osdmase
Estimates." He wished to know whether ea melt
a notice it was competent for the house is p
Into a committee of supply, and vote • large ors of
money. There was soother point to which he wished se
cell attention. From the papers sent to members it ap-
pared there was an excess of expenditare in two degart.
mints of 3.340,0001. He wished to know whether there was to
to a supplemental estimate for the army, as well as for
the ordnance. Oa the 12 hof August, 1854, the Chaneellor
of the Exchequer stated that the supplies thus voted,
amounting to 2.5,247,0001., would softies for the expenditure
of the year. He wished to know how mush of the three
millions and a half was in excess of that amount, aid
whether soy further demands would be made on account
of the army. The right bon. gentleman made several
estimates last year, which eventually ran up to 25,247,0001.;
but he stated that that sum would be saffloient. Why then
were they now called on to vote over three millions, nate the
mem st circumstances, for the navy end ordnance alone?
He wished to ask whether it was constitutionally right to
cell on the hoses to vote so large a sum of money while
they had manly an ad interim government, and to go late
committee for that purpose on so short a notice ? He had
farther to ask whether there would be a supplemental esti-
mate for the army also, and when they were likely to he
informed what umpire would be required for the year
1855-56 ? He loped the house would not go into committee
. till a satisfactory answer was given on thine points.
Mr. MUNTZ quite agreed with the hon. baronet; the
proceeding was mast irregular. He had, moreover, strong
objections to some particular items of the proposed esti-
mates. One item was 26,0001. for a shell manufactory. He
spoke advisedly when he said there was so necessity for It.
Government could get any number of shell they requited ;
the authorities at Woolwich admitted as muds. He had no
interest in the matter, but he mast say it was a gross job.
There was another item, 15,0001., for a small-arm manu-
factory. Before they agreed to that, they ought to know
what had become of the money voted for that purpose last
year. He should oppose this proceeding, unless the right
hon. gentleman pledged himself that the vote would not
tied the house to say one of these items.
Mr. wALrovh understood that the only object of the
Chancellor of the Exchequer in going Into committee was to
take a vote absolutely necessary for the public service, it
appeared to him the house could not refuse that to any go-
torment. Be thought they ought to go into committee.
When in committee hon. members might cell the attention
of the government to the details, and explanations might be
given. He was glad to bear that the right hon. gentleman
intended to report the resolution to-morrow ; that would
give members an opportunity of being present, for it was
certainly understood the day before that nothing but private
business would be taken in the present witting. (Hear.
hurl If an adjournment was to be proposed till Friday
week, an opportunity of discussion would be afforded, but it
was then premature. It was not fair, is the absented toe
sable lord at the heed el the geversamist, am was it ad'
Amble to enter into a general dieswedea oasis be Wen g-
ratuity of stating the views el 111 govennant ea miens
pdats.
Mr C. WOOD wee quite nathled with the statement of
tallbt hen. weadeamin. He hewed to naiad hie ban.
the woodosit gar Birmiegimm (Mr. Manta), OM the
Chemeallee el the Mostesque had dearly explained BIM I
IMMO isenalled le pledge lay meether la any way UM
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vete of amenne. Whoa cash a ere wee taken a mid** ,
wee always left. so dialt every possible sabject iavolved in
the elieneles Bight he telly Mamma afteuriade. He
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