The Express.
London, England, 1855-07-31 00:00:00

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house should are caused to oats o'clock on nauusys,
than open tin 3, thea closed till 6, after which they were
to be oyes till 11, bat the bill ea it was priated, it appeared
to his, that public houses sight be open the whole day ca
Sunday until 3 o'clock. He wished to know if that was
tended or not ?

Mr. COBBSTT as one of the committee wished to say
that if the provision was as the boa and learned gentleman
had stated It was entirely atuddental. The recommendation
of the committee was that public houses should be dosed
from 12 o'clock on Saturday night to on. o'clock on Sunday,
when they were to be open till 3, then lobe elated till 6, and
thee opened till 11, and that was intended to be the
provision of the hill. With reference to what had fallen
from the bon. member for Liverpool, who said that the ease
of the publicans had been gone into by the committee, and
the ease of the public bad not been considered, he could
assure the hon. member that the east of the publicans bad
been earefolly excluded by the committee. They from the
Sett took the arrangement of the care into their own hands,
with the view to its being conducted as they thought
it should be ; and they called Info:* them the principal
magistrates and the ecnimlasioners of polies, who, with
one or two exception., were the only persons summed, and
the case of the publicans was not entered into, it being
intended that the examination should go only into the case
Of the public.
Mr. FItEWEN inquired whether any practical good
would mite from going on with t►e bill, which would most
likely be rejeeted in another place on the ground that it
altered a bill passed last session, which could not be said to
have had a sufficient trial.

Sir G. GREY wished to say one word with reference to
what had fallen from the hon. member for Youghal. With
all deference to the hon. member's legal knowledge, he
thought that this bill would not interfere with the
act by which public-houses were closed during the whole of
Sunday morning. There was another provision of the bill
which be thought should be considered in committee—that
which gave an appeal from the conviction of a magistrate.
That was not recommended by the committee ; and it was
doubtful whether such au appeal should be given, when it
was sot given in other acts relating to this subject.
The bill was then read a second time, and ordered to be
committed this day.
The Dwelling-douses Labouring Clams Bill was read a
second time.

Tae Lode' Amendments to the Dwelliog•honw (Scot-
land) Bill and the Religions Wonhip Bill were agreed to.

.ati stop the carriage. The hor.es began to plunge, and
but for the isiterienecis of the police the horses would
have got beyond his o ntrol. The general and his sieve
were in the wrier.
Crasociamined by Mr. Mitebell—The bmsse he was
driving In the perk were young horse.. The more the
nuns were frightened the more We crowd ibuuted.
William Mahatmas, footmen to Sir E. Blakeney, who
wee on the carriage, corroborated the evidence of the lest
whales.

Mr. Charles B. Saw's, M.P., for Bothnia, wee in the
park from kelf-put 3to near 6. The crowd were very noisy
sod riotous. Saw stones thrown in the direction of the

police, who were cleariog the drive. Saw two hones nader
a enriage, with some Wise very much frightened; they
plunged and galloped off. Saw several prigonen taken
towards the receiving house. The police used no unneces-
sary violence towards them. One man in a black coat and
s►tin waistcoat was exceedingly violent. The conduct of
the crowd was such as to call for the interference of the
police. Saw no unnecessary violence used by the police.
Cross-examined by Mr. Mitchell—The crowd was not
noisy, melees when a carriage or a cab with prisoners pureed.
Cannot say he was intimidated by the demonstration, eor,
had he heard of any other member of parliameat who wee.
Inspector Jamas Macintosh, of the M division, a native of
the north of Sootbutd, 38 years of age.—Mad been twelve
years in the force. Was in the park on the Sunday.
Had the chants of five *emends and fifty men of the A
reserve attached to the SI division. Divided them into two
panne, and auectta them to lie on the crass near the Ser-
pentine. Abaft half-past two saw a man throw a dead eel
at two ladies who were sitting on the grew The ladies were
melt mutoyed,bst said they did not wish the men to be taken
into onatody. Sews after saw a crowd about one of his par-
ties. The eel wee again thrown, and hit two sergeants in the
face. Told a constable (605 A) to throw it into the river. The
eel appeared again in about a quarter of an hour, and was
again thrown at the police. Seeing there was no nee In
throwing it into the river, he told a man to take it to the
Magazine. 80 A went with it. A large crowd followed
him. Mr. Withers told four or five other men to follow

o the Chief Commissioner—Made a report to the Com-
=Ulmer of Police some days after.
To Mr Ellis—When the policemen were coming back from
the barracks they were h heed and hooted. When they
sat down again pebbles and orange-peel were thrown at
them, and every petty means was used to irritate them.
Told the men not to mind. About half past 2 a carriage
cases up the drive. The mob left the spot where the police
were, and ran to the rails. They commenced shouting and
hissing, and drumming on their hats. When the hones
were frightened the crowd only yelled the more. Went to
Saperiatendeut Hughes,and asked whether he should bring
up his men to clearthe rails. Was told to do so. Brought
up his men. First told them to draw their trun-
cheons. They than proceeded to clear the rails. Witness
meat LON tail to stand bark. His men need
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in ; bat they asilidid notstrgiktheeeneycloevetreotte. heTadh:itoefastiltre
first clearance of the rails, about half.past three.
To the Chief Commissioner—The reason for clearing the
spot was, that there was more noise then then elsewhere.
His force extended from a point Kyards from the receiving-
boost, to, perhaps, 100 yards to the east.
Cross-examined by Mr. Mitchell—ln the latter part of the
day the hiring was principally at the cabs. Thought
it quite right to take away the eel, as it was causing dis-
turbance. The men lying down were called " lasy dogs."
Thought it was an expression sufficient to irritate any per-
son. The eel has not been stuffed and placed in Scotland-
yard. (Laughter) There had been no complaint made
against any one of the 50 men under his command.
Tn the Chief Commissioner—Could not say what inspector
was in command of the party on his left. lies known Super-
intendent Hughes for 12 years. On the Sunday saw him
every 20 minutes. He was as cool and collected as witness
bed ever seen him in the discharge of his duty. He did not
appear excited.
Superintendent O'Brien, of the C division, 40 yeah of
ege,l4 years in the force, an Irishman.—Was on duty on the
let of July. Received directions to pay attention to Lord
R. Grosvenor's house. Made arrangements aecordiagly.
Everything was quiet up to 2 o'clock. Sometime after 2
went with a party of men, and remained at Stanhope- gate.
lespector Webb had been stationed in Paik-street. About
6 o'clock saw a large number of persona crossing the park
towards the reservoir. They were ehoutiog,aod persons were
running about in Stunt and at the side', as if encouraging
them on. Twos gentlemen came up sod said the mob was
going to Lord It. Grosvenor's house. One said they had
stones in their pockets. Sent a constable, 331 A, to ascer-
tain if the mob had gone in that direction ; the constable
brought back word there was a large mob before the house.
Wilms, then marched his party to Park-street. Went in
by South-street, in order that the people might lee the
police, end have an opportunity of dispersing. The crowd
was turbulent and shouting. Saw only one stone thrown
diriug the day. Formed the men into sections five abreast.
He did so to let the crowd see he intended to make a
moement. It took a little time, nod the crowd did not dis-
poses. Marched up to remove them.
To Mr. Commmissionar Henderson—When they get near
the people they were received with a terrible shout.
To Mr. Ellis—Got into the crowd a little in advance of
his men, and ordered the people to leave. He was imme-
diately tripped up, and fell on his face. His men moved oa
and dispersed the crowd. Does not recollect having given
any word of command, but he accepted the responsibitity of
having dons so. When he recovered from his fall he fel.
lowed his men. Had reported that three persons had been
hurt. Saw ens man with his face bleeding. Another com-
plained of having been struck on the back, and another on
the arm. Saw nothing of Mr. Stephen., but thought one
of those he saw was the German who had been examined.
When the inept was cleared he ordered the men to fall io,
and marched them back immediately to Stanhope gate.
Thought it was his duty to clear Park-street at the time.
Could not ascertain under what circumstances the three
men were hart. The crowd was so thick that one police-
man could scarcely tell what the man next him did.
Cross-examined by Kr. Mitchell—Did not see Sir R.
Mayas on the Sanday. Saw him on Saturday in company
with some of the officers and superintendents ; that was at
Whitehall-place. Sir R. Mayne rend an outline of the in-
structions that wen to be issued, but gave no verbal
directions. There were no special instructions given but
theses in writing. Cannot say whether say survey of the
tuned in the park had been made. If he was to have had
,l mend of the men he would have wished to have exa-
mined the ground beforehand. The duties of the sauna-
teadent are various. It is his duty to go round hie division
occasionally. He receives report. from his inspectors and
men, and he ought to know everything that goes on in his
division. Hyde-park is in the district of Superintendent
May, of the A division. Mr. May had been in the park on
the previous Sunday.
Mr. Mitchell expressed a wish that Superintendent May
Auld be examined.
The Chief Commissioner said that if Mr. Mitchell wished
to have any person called he might suggest the name to the
committee, and they would consider the propriety of
doing SO.
Cross-ezassinatim continued—The assemblage in Park-
etten was a mob rather then a crowd. Reported to Sir
R. Mayne that there were about four thousand people in the
crowd he saw noosing the park. Did not think they were
leaving the park oa their way home.
Ti Commissioner Armstrong—He thought there were at
least two thousand persons in the crowd near Lord R. Groove-
sore kora
Cross-examination continued—The crowd was most dense
opposite the house. Gave no orders to his men, but be told
the crowd to "disperse." His men must have understood
it as if it wee an order to them, and sated accordingly.
Weald take the whole responsibility on himself, as he
thought the time bad then come to diapers° the mob.
When a mob is apparently bent on mischief, the sooner
they are dispersed the better. Did not hear the people in
the balconies cry " shame." The inspector told him he had
heard some person is a house say " take his number." Scow
of Use men had their truncheons in their hints. The in-
spector had asked him if the men should draw their
truncheons, but witness said it was better not, if he saw
occasion he would order it.
To the Chief Commissioner—..—
Georke's Hospital.
Cross examination continued—Saw some handbills calling
the mewing in the Park. Saw them in the effice in Scot-
I land-yard, but did not see any of them posted up.
To the Chief Commissioner—Went to Vine-street station
at nine, and found a large number of prisoners there.
Wrote to Sir R Mayne to ask leave to remove twenty. Got
his p.rmission, and did so. After that removed eleven more.
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Cross-examination enestinued—Returned to Vine-street
about nine o'clock. remained until one o'clock, and returned
again about nine o'clock on Monday morning, but was never
in charge of the station.
The committee then adjourned until to-morrow (this day)
at eleven o'closk.

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THE ROCHDALE MUILDER.—The woman murdered
whilst asleep in bed by her upposui hoof:wed, en &uoday
week, at a public house in Rochdale Ulf butt identified u
egergarot Jou*, a widow, from fiitillperi. fibe had three
was living M Manchester, and th•F fie* Identiliad the
body on Satarday evening. Thrne isflasee te hs eta
that slut left Manchester on the de,Airelmshe "wit with
a fail":" is a foundry named Joeidban He7lroDat about
the age of tho man now in onstody,kind devised a good dent
like him. Heywood is said to ta44likei bee away wady
• minima of marriage, and the pollen an immilueg fagairy
alter kim.

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