The Express.
London, England, 1863-08-29 00:00:00

gni. He said that tide wu the only Ere he had wee iu Eng-
' latad, and therefore he was unable to state whether this fire
harmed with greater rapidity than any other.
A police-mutable gamed Otley deposed that he sew the
fire, and he and it appe►red to him as though the flatus
did not spread through the tunings but ae though every
room in the house was cm fire.

Green, the firs escape man, proved that he was at the
lire with his escape a few minutes after fair. At this
time the house was entirely alight exempt three or four
windows. He saw that a life was in danger, and be there-
fore maw no more than that the house was " well alight."
and he directed his attention to assist in reooverieg young
Temple.
William Swanton, superintendent of the fire brigade at
Watling-street, aid that he arrived at the fire at about
20 minutes to 5 o'clock, and he at once saw it was useless to
attempt saving Camden-house, and all his attoptioe ens
directed to the house of Mr. Egg. He had examined the
ruins since, and he saw nothing to induce him to come to
the conclusion that the house was one that would be burned
down eerily. There were some very moieties tim.
ben in the house, and being of oak, they would
burn much lea freely than deal or pipe. fife should
not expect a house like this ooald have been burned dowx
in the short period it was. It would in his opinion be •
difficult thing to cause sash a house to be an fire all over
in such II shod time, eves if every room had been specially
prepared for burping. He saw nothing in the appearance
of the flues that would lead him to form the conclusion
that they were the cause of the fire. Where a beam wee
ignited by means of • fine it would smoulder for many hours,
aid he had known thom to do so for weeks.

Cross-examined—He did not remember e7er having seen •
fire at mob a place as Camden-houre, which was peculiarly con-
structed, having • large staircase in the centre, end corridors
each side. He remembered the fire at Sir Watkin Williams
Wynn's mansion at Wynnstay. This was • building of the
same description as Camden-house, and it was entirely con-
sumed in a very short time.
Mr. Ellis, • plumber and glazier, living at Kensington,
deposed that about twenty minutes to 2 o'clock on the
morning of the fire he was in Sheffield-place, near Camden.
home, when be met Mr. Woolley and Mr. Crosier wade;
together towards home. The wane. gave a very confused
account as to the pieties spot when he represented that he
met the plaintiff and Crosier, but be said be was positive
they were the poisons he saw at the time he roentioeed.
He said, however, that what he meant to mom wee that
they ware ahead of him, and he did not see them until
they turned round.
The witness, in croseaxaminatioe, was asked to mark
upon the plan the places where he was himself, and where
he saw Mr. Woolley sod Crozier, mad he accounted for the
form of one of the letters he had made by suing that his
band shook. He denied that be bad had delirium tre-
mens two or three times, or that be bad ever maid that
when he came home on this night be was "glued."
He remembered one of Mr. Tessdale's clerks coming to
him, but be denied having said that be saw two
the night of the dreg but he did not
renYwie on
who they were, as be only saw their backs. He swore
that he did not may this in the presence of Mr. Woolley.
Mr. Woolley did call upon him and inquire whether he was
taboo:mud to prove that he saw him with Crozier at
2 o'clock on the morning of the fire, and be at the same
time said that he had better be careful what he said, for if
he swore that he was in bed soot attar 11 o'clock it might
be ray awkward for him. He did not recollect whether
be said when he was questioned by Mr. James that he did
not see the faces of the gentlemen.
This witness answered the queetioes that were pat to him
in such a flippant and unsatisfactory mantra, that he was
more than coos reproved by the learned judge, and re-
quested to emeduct himself in • becoming manner.
In answer to a question put by the learned judge the
wither raid be would rather not state where be had been to
on that sight.
Sound pobeemastablee were then examined with a view
to show the different appearances they observed at the fire.
Their evidence, however, did sot differ in any material re-
spect from that which had hem given by the other wit-
nesses, and they were not crew-qusetioned by the counsel
for the plaintiff, sad the learned judge expunged his opinion
that it war quite umuceseary to give any farther endure
upon this had.
Mr. Duman said that a grass attack bad been made upon
the polioe by the other 64 and suggestions were made
that they had neglected their duty. One object, therefore,
that he led in view wee to show that there were plenty of
pace at the spot immediately an alarm was given.
Mr. Swanton, the toperiatendeet of the Tim Brigade, was
then recalled by the learned judge, who put amoral qua-
tioos to biro.

In answer to those questions he stated that if the Ask-
ew of a house was ignited the fire would run tip it very
tepidly ; but • good deal would depend as to the mares the
Ramie would take epee different earetunstancen. If, for in-
stance, the doors upon the landings were open, the Are
would protehly run into the TOMS sad set them oe fire, sod
the mischief would be increased if any windows were open.
He did not think it was probable, supposing the fin had
gone up the Nair:lW of Camdeei.house, that all the rooms
would have preeested the appearance of being lighted up
at mos, in the way that bad been described, without the
ceilings being burned.
Mr. Randell, the solicitor for the defendant, was then
called, to prove that in 1856 Mr. Woolley executed the bill
of male apes the whole of the furniture of Camden-house to
Mr. Edmund Robins, to secure a loan of 1,0001. He also
that a second bill of sale was executed to Messrs.
in 1859 to secure the sum of 80001., and be stated
that he had examined the schedule of the furniture attached
to the two bills of sale, and that the one executed I. ISM
did not contain somany lamas as the cue of
.11156.

Mr. Gwynn, cabinet maker, proved that in 1856, while
Colonel Waugh wee occupying i&mdee-borwe In by hie
orders made sixty peeking eases for him, and he saw them
filled with antique articles of furniture, painting!, and other
than
crigof that deemiption. Mr. Woolley cams in while the
was going on, and he ordered it to be stepped, and
said that Colonel Waugh had no right to remove the pro-
perty. On the following day, however, be resolved a letter
from him, authoriiing the property to be removed, and the
whole of the eases were subsequently taken to Blanks's, so
Captain Waugh's residence. Among the property that was
so removed were two crimson and gilt notes, and those sofas
he knew were afterwards mold under Colonel Waugh's
bankruptcy. Those sofa. were the articles particularly
alluded to by the witness Temple in his evidence as not
being in Ounden•home at the time of the fire, although they
were claimed for by the plaintiff.
The following Inhuman were then called by Mr. Bovill ia
rep4' to the defendant's cue :
Mr. Cr.., a surveyor to the Sun Firwoifice, proved that
in 1856 and again in 1859 be made a survey of Oatoden-
house, arid that the insurance ultimately effected epee it
wee a special insurance at a higher rate of premium than
doubly hiwardous.
Mies Cope and Mr. Buncombe were recalled, and they
stated pesltively that the sofas removed by Colonel Waugh
were not the same articles claimed for under the insurance,
and that the latter were in the house when the tire occurred
and were &strayed.
Mr. G. C. James said that Its was a solicitor, bet for two
years he bad bees asmatiag Mama. Maples, the solicitors
fey the plaintiff, in their lindens. On the 26th May, in
oceacquesce of something he heard, be went to the house
of the sitars Ellis, accompanied by Mr. Woolley. He
told him that he had heard that he had stated that he saw
Mr. Woolley and Crozier walking together cm the morning
of the fire, between two and three o clock. Ellis at first
awed disisclined to say anything, but he ultimately said
that he bad seen them on that morning. Wittiest asked
him when he saw them, and he replied is Sheffield-
gardaoa. He put some other queetions to him, sad he said
that he rely saw their becks, and be seemed to be uncertain
whether it really was Mr. Woolley or not.
Cromexamieed—He believed that something was mid
Ito the effect that if Mr. Woolley swore he was in bed noon
alter 11 o'clock on the night previous to the fire, and he
I were to represent that hem, him out with Crozier at the
time be stated, it would be• very awkward thing for him,
and he wee advised to go and inekesomeizquidee of Temple,
to update whether Mr. Woolley really did go to bed at the
time he stated or not.

me of the fanner witnesses, was recalled, and
be stated that he was acquainted with Ellis, end a few dim
after the Ire b had some amvenatiou with hire about it.
During that coeverestiow he stated that when he came
home on the night of the fire be was rather " slued.*
This concluded the evidence on both odes, and the court
adloarned until MU (Saturday) meriting, when Mr. Lash
will sum up the case for the defeediat.