The Express.
London, England, 1855-07-28 00:00:00

LONDON, SATURDAY EVENING, JULY 28, 1855.

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ADULMATION OF FOOD.
The report of the nemtilltase es the above subject wee laid
on the table by Mr. Seheleillehl.
AN IRISH REGIMENT OF GUARDS.
Mr. V. SCULLY asked the First Lord of the Treasury
whether, having Tepid to the galling eanduet of Irish sol-
diers in the Crimes, her Majesty's perellesaent would re-
commend that a royal regiment of Qmosn's Irish Guards
should be embodied, with privileges similar to those enjoyed
by the English and Scotch Bailments of Grenadier, Cold-
stream, and Fusilier Guard'?
Lord PALMERSTON—The matter to whisk my hon.
cud learned (Head alludes bee been fully easiddered. Un-
doubtedly we should have been very desirous of making
any arrangement that would be gratifying to the Irish,
to whose services on all occasions, especially lately—al-
though I need baldly say lately, as ;here has been me
dif-
ferenw, whenever and wherever they have been employed
—to whose services by sea and land this country awe so
much. Bat with regard to the particular method now
suggested, it is to be scandered that the Goads are a
privileged body. and that their privilecm are semetbare
the subject of observation with the rest of the may.
(Hear, hem) We shish that the privileged eons her as
large • to the rest of the army as we shoal& be
dh apron of, sod I do not think it nenhil be
advimillete less o the establishment. But indmitemeuts
have hese bold out to the Irish coastahaltry to sneer late
the Glenk sod these regiments wherever erpraleed are
oensideted as heloaging to the United Kingdom.
Colonel DUNNE said that Oho arible lord wall perhaps
not aware, that until the war Irishmen wore refused in the
Oserde.
Me. V. SCULLY said be accepted the answer of the noble
Lund am • civil refusal. He should take an opportunity of
bringing the matter before the hone, and having it fully
discussed.
NAVAL PENSIONS.
Sir G. TYLER asked the First Lord of the Admiralty
what steps the Admiralty had taken to intend to the widows
of °Goers of the royal navy the boos whisk her Majesty had
lately conferred upon the widows of alma of the army, by
intending the pension warrant, so as to create • special scale
of pensions for the widows of officers who might die from
flame spontraeted in the field ; also, whether it was true
that the widow of the late Admiral Boner bad only been
ranted the ordinary passim for an admiral's widow, viz.,
g 1201. • year ?
Sir C. WOOD said that there would he no differs.* in
the warrants for the army and savy. With respect to the
mooed gamin', Mrs. Boner had received the highest
pennon, and in addition her Majesty had taken the ease
into cotisideratios, and mortised its posaliarity in • satis-
factory manner.
CAMBRIDGE UNIVERSITY BILL.
Is answer to • questioa,
Mr. BOUVERIE stated that the above bill would not be
takes on Monday nest.
COLLISION WITH THE NATIVES IN AFRICA.
L answer to Mr. Breton;
Lord PALMERSTON ;Kaaba the papers connected
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with the above affair oa Monday next.
OMER PACS&
Sir J. WALSH observed that a rep sit had appeared In
the newspapers that Omer Paoli* had returned to Catsup-
Olson'', and had tendered his origami= of the command
of the troops of the Ottoman empire. Now Omer Fiche was
admitted is be the most distinguished Turkish general that
had appeared apse the IbilirrO of war, and had achieved
more important results Ia the louse of that war than any
other general engaged ia it. He believed also, that he was
actuated by • most cordial feeling towards the English
Ratios and bad in his satire confidence a distinguished
English ofilesr, who had beau of great ass in the operations
Colonel Shamonds. He hoped to hear from the
noble lord that the rumour he alluded to was without
foundation.
Vireoleat PALMERSTON—I am happy to my that I
can give a satisfactory answer to the question of the how.
baronet. It is true that Omer Peeks has retuned to Con-
stantinople, to hold communisation with his government on
military 'natters, but net with say infection of with-
drawls, from that commend in which he has been so sue-
useful, aid which I trust he will bog »Oda. (Cheers.)
After a brief conversation between Mr. CRAIIVOILD and
lir.Wiaroan, In referents* to the report of the Statute Law
Commission,
The motion that the house at its rising adjourn till Mon-
day was put and carried.
OFFICE OF SPEAKER BILL.
This bill was read a third time and passed.
ABSCONDING DEBTORS (IRELAND) BILL.
The order for the third reading of this bill Ina read and
discharged.
TURKISH LOAN BILL.
The house then resumed the consideration of this bill in
committee.
Mr. WALI.OLI, the CHANCILLOR of the EXCHIGIIIIR,
Mr. OLADBTONI, Kr. MILWRII GIBBON, Mr. RICARDO, the
Sowcyroa-0 ANIMAL, sad others, offered various comments.
Mr. DISRAELI said what had been witnessed that
night formed a sufficient jostifiestion of those who
' bad been unwilling to proceed with that pro-
cipitation which the noble lord at the head of
the government In his impassioned harangue ap.
r peered to wish for. HIS right how. friend (Mr. Walpole)
Ihad already succeeded in introducing into the bill an
, expression which gave it gaite a new character. He had
succeeded in giving to the convention an interpretation
which It did not bear at mix o'clock, is the opinion of ha
Majesty's government. It appeared that there had been a
cabinet council respecting the interpretation of a most On-
, portant French epithet, and that that council decided upon
, an interpretation of this epithet entirely eonWWrryy to the
sense which it really bore. At six o'clock " "
meant united responsibility, it now meant separate and
t several responsibility. (Hear, hear.) He could Dot help
. tkiskisg that this alone 'astAlimil the souse taken by the
r opposition. The C the Exchequer shook his
. head, but he could oat noes to sopsdiats the iaterpreta-
it= of the Solicitor-Owaidok yho Solicitor-General bad

certainly made a strange admission to-day for a law officer
of the crown, in sating that he had not read the convention
till that morning. He (Mr. Disraeli) thought it would be
more convenient if the noble lord would medals:end to eon-
salt his law officers respecting the meaning of treaties before
he recommended this blues to sanction them. (Hear,
hear.) If the eon. and learned gentleman had contented
himself with the exprersioa of opinion to which be had just
referred, he should have listened to him with unqualified
satiefaetion ,• bat the description which he gave ot the se-
curity which they were to obtain under the soavention filled
hiss with alarm. It appeared that that security was strictly
• mortgage =Turkey. Well, he wanted to know who was to
be appointed receiver. (Hear.) He Gould not sonosive
anything more pregnant with difficulty sad danger than
the arrangement nude by the government, soserffing to the
opinion of their dints' shed law officer. He (Mr. Disraeli)
had not risen to vindicate the vote which be gave last
Friday night. He looked beck to that vote with great satio-
Italia, convinced that it was dictated by sound policy and
by rionatitstional failings, and that it would ultimately be
recognised as a wise and prudent vote. He was perfectly
reedy to take the coosequences of that vote, and he oriole
not (or • moment condescend to vindicate it. But he must
say ha was r. rprised at the opinions which he had heard
that night from gentlemen repteeenting numerous and
popular eonatitsencier, opinionswhich he scald only
tame on the charitable supposition that they
were uttered without previous reflection. The House
of C3111M0116 either had or had not the privilege
of sanctioning financial arrangements which were made by
her Majesty acting under the advise of the government;
and if they were to be told that it was disloyal end impolitic
fur that house to presume to question their 'propriety, it
would be much better for them to rid themselves of so proud
bat so augatory a privilege. (Hear.) He was not prepared
for that. He held that this privilege wee a reel and sub-
naafis' one, to be exercised in the proper exigently, though
of sours* under a due sense of the responsibility which would
thus be incurred. Let the house conceive fer • mo-
ment whet would be the consequence of their
agreeing to the proposidea made by the Chancellor of the
Buthequer on Friday last es a matter of coarse.
Why, is that ease, &Mho money necessary to conduct the
war might be raised without the interference of parliament
in any way whatever. If the government could thus raise
five millions they could raise ten, if ten twenty, if twenty
sixty. They might raise twenty millions for Turkey, and
place it in the hands of wiientestary commissioners, who
walla pay it over in thelsed. There would not, is short,
be the airthat Genteel sr sheik. Nothing, therefore,
amid be awe ahead Ora than eseemea-pisese with which
the ben. seeable M Lembo& (Mr. W. A. Wilkinson) had
impugned the audacity theeismente of the bill, implying
that tiny scull he preespsed by hue, disloyal, and un-
patristic meths,- (Mesa) the Wig a the seam-
mad MIN 11810•4 it weal bear stay masa& sad
etterreament woad he eerragar eametnneee t
and, ea the (Aker Mao ne mioritiasweld
prep a pokey Maid ea pelesigke whisk were
Maslen& New be (Ik. Dingell) agreed with
tame who diteppeoved of the maser i which the policy of
the gemmimemb—edmitting kr the moment that it was
scam—wen pease& te he earned est, and, having listened
to the debate. he bad hosed se eatisteeseey answer to the oh-
Jardine whisk had been seed ea that peas. Bet thee, be
>t rite he fold that ell n. the palm nerd be unwise
k wee ant beeseiene le alma So dreg, the measure
of ye glawrisasst.assava• each a ionise might
and 'name Aseary, the abase with Nesse. It tte free
inprgoigg of their aphasia mamma the alliance with
Frassey rub alkali wee net the ealeantlel 'thing which he
MI halNssl N ten a It woo the aspianien etepinion in this
agog iimparted the aniffisee VW /Wan. If they
woe ID Is prolosily spool*, it p widest when the

seas and the hallessnief their great ally were mentioned,
they satOt rent aimed that a ve short time would elapse
hellese On Mirage would be danger. Unless it sprang
heft • esneeef ideality of interests between the two clue-
sod plass the sentiments of the put majority of
the pongee of the two couetrir • were in favour of its eon-
tisesessote diplomatie arrangement—so ministerial ma-
=etAitseuld maintain it. It was bemire he Ps con
it mu from that great homogeneity of interest
t#ld hats which had for many years prevailed between
lb. of two great nations that he believed the
animas betteems England and France was sound mad sub.
Menai; end her thought then wee no way in which it
maid be batter saalstsieed and cherished than by speaking,
when the tellmeses of the two countries were concerned,
with the Unmet frankness and, at the same time, with the
utmost ft nerve. Bat was it a fact that, if after
the wows had ozonised its undoubted prerogative by en-
twine! fan it emanation with Frans, ths parliament el
Pagbrildlinetappinve of the advice given to the crown by
tirouseeeeneist the milieus between the two emottries
u semis y be endangered? (Hear, hear.) The
treaty of Utrecht presented an lettuce in which a treaty
after it had been negotiated and ratified--a treaty, toe,
I which in his opinion was one of the beet that was env
entered into—wee refuted by the House of Cossmons,and in
which, nonetheless, that rejection did not prevent the eon-
elusion of pesos. Hewould refer to as instance mouth
sure recent. In the peer 1852 a treaty was negotiated
with a sovereign power of Europe—the Emperor of the
trench kimegf, touching • subject iefinitely more
istereetteg to him at the mutest than even
the question involved in the emanation was now.
That truly was negotiated by the predecessors of
the governmeat of the day. Its object was to secure the
extradition of criminals between the two countries, and
is order to carry it out it was necessary that there should be
an appeal to parliseaut. The noble lord who was Seem
tuy of State for Foreign Affairs in the internment of Lord
Derby introdued the subjeet in the Hesse of Lords, and
the governesses :Mee net with the opposition of their pre-
decessors wimp had negotiated the treaty. Such, In fact, was
the prejediee, the snjurt prejudice, raised against the bill
that it wafted imponible to carry it through parliament ;
and when It We monsulted on the subject by the noble lord
(the Bartel Maimehury) sad by the Home Secretary (Mr.
Walpole% Its oat,' I think the best thing you can do is to
state to the lamb government your exact position,
and throw yourselves on the good sense and the
high spirit of that individual who, fortunately for
Europe. governs the destinies of Femmes." Had
they had to appeal to a common-place ecoverelen
the computes might have been serious; but they had,
fortunately, to appeal to a man of great capacity, one, too,
who had long lived in this moisten, and his Majesty, in •
meaner which became • person of his peat position ami
talents, though nothing could have occurred more °beim-
tin of his policy or more injurious to his interests, did
justice to the spirit of the English constitution, and the
French alliance was not destroyed. The Emperor did sot
immediately turn round and say, ""there is an end of the
'simnel [smiths which has hitherto misted between England
and France ;' co the contrary, he said, " I respect the
efforts which you hays made ; I deplore for the sake of
Preece, of England, and of Europe, that the treaty hes not
been 'married out; I limiest that we have been obliged to
yield to the false imputations which have been raised against
us; bat** alliance between England end France is too pee.
oboes a thing to be subjected to snob political aseidents." And
although the government were obliged to give up the effort
to marry out the treaty negotiated by their predecessors
yet he flattered himself that the good understandieg between
Ragland and France was not diminished during their tenure
of dace. That was his answer to thou who said that If
the parliament of Ragland, in the exercise of their our
atheneum! rights, ventured to express an opinion upon
convention negotiated by a constitutional minister they
were endangering the alliance between the two countries-.
an 'Wanes which, he hoped, would always be the key stem
of the prosperity of this nation. There was ne
person who would less ?nue, the English parliament
than the Emperor of the !ranch if they were he
gin their votes at the dictation of a Minister.
He had only to address himself to one other point, and that
was whether if the house had prevented the arrangement
contemplated by this comeention from being carried out,
they would have diminished the degree of vigour with which
the war was carried on. This feet had been entirely
assumed by those hon. strongmen who had urged it, and
no segments bad been adduced by time in support of their
views. Notwithstanding that it was but a bare assump-
tion, the right hon. gentleman, who was lately the member
for Southwark (Bir W. Molesworth), seemed to take it as an
iiadoubted principle in his address to tne electors of that
borough. Hs (Mr. Disraeli) would not follow the example
of other hon. members, in making observations upon that
hustings speech. It was not fair too Mutely to criticise
that crowing ebullition of the right hos. baronet, who had
been so suddenly and unexpectedly elevated to a high posi-
tion. (Laughter.) The emitemittee ought rather to sym-
pathise with him. (Laughter.) The right hon. baronet
was a distieguished ornament of that house, and as
such he (Mr. Disraeli) had • great regard for him,
The right hen. baronet was the editor of one of our greatest
authoss—(renewed laughter)—and finding himself a metro-
politan member and a secretary of state—the fleet metro-
politan member who had held that high office—he could
well be imagined breaking out in enthusiastic admiration et
despotic power, and • determination to control every en.
preemies of opinion on the part of hie late colleupith
(Laughter.) Stich feelings woald no doubt per away when
the excitement of the moment ceased—wben, like Chris-
topher Sly, he woke and found himself Christopher Sly
egain—at all events, it would cease until he found himself
slumbering on the Treasury bench once more. (Much
laughter.) These were things to be lightly paned over and
forgotten—they were but the canival of sucemsful offi-
cialism and the saturnalia of salary. (Laughter.) The right
hon. baronet had
without uneasily attacking him; of this, however,
he did not complain. All he hoped we. that the
next time the right hon. baronet appeared in that
position he would have to offer to the country the defence
of • defunct misittry and the programme of a progressive
opposition. (Muth laughter.) At that period of the year,
he did not think that there should be a protruded discoi-
d= epee this measure ; but it was seeemery that, even at
the last moment, they should vindicate the privileges of
parliament—it was necessary that, upon • measure the the
I present, they should express opinions, which not to expel"
would be totally unworthy of the position of that how.
But be thought that it was not • time for exploring the
opinion of the house upon questions of policy in which the
conduct of • cherished any was involved. If it had been at
an earlier period of the session, he should have asked the
house, the next day after the division on which this resole-
dos was founded—or at all events as soon after as possible—
to have addressed the crown, and expressed its opinion
that the manner in which her Majesty's minister, were
carrying on the war was not the cum whisk ought to
be pursued. But they had no opportunity to take such
a course at the end of the maim, and with diminished
numbers. The noble lord (Palmerston) unexpectedly cams
down to the house and made • demand of very great im-
portant, • demand which, if acquiesced in, might have
afforded a most dangerous precedent, which sight have led
to the expenditure of many millions without the sanction
and direction of parliament. The course whisk the house
took was in his opinion • right one—it was significant, and
had made an impression upon that house and upon the
country. He was quite sure that the noble lerd would not
spin propose such a course without du deliberation. But
if he did propose it, no commonplace declamation about
interfering with the vigerou. prosecution of the
war, none of the evils which had been threat-
ened from different quarters during that debate,
would influence him in the course which he should take.
He would oppose in every way this mode of carrying on the
war by what he must nail a system of subsidies—(bm,
bear)—either apparent or disguised. He would not enter
into the question of the manner in which the wan VII now
proesetted ; he would only mention it to guard against Ws-
apprekiessioa. He did not think the war was vigorously
prosecuted. (Cheers.) He was sot satisfied with the prin-
ciples or the progress of the war; he thought that we wanted
an entire change is the conception sad management of the
tempaign. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. LABOUCHER remarked that the right hon.
gentleman who had last spoken had declared that he should
not viedieste his vote, but he thought that the
ammittee would net have heard the statement which had
just been made, had not the right hen. member been anxious
to give tome intimation upon that head. Bat the right,
ken. pentium had throughout fought wide of the tuse.
tlee. He bad said much upon the privilege of that hue*
In mum its opinion in eases similar to the present. Ns
ene denied that privilege, but what he and these who bed
used with him said, was this, that that privilege
me to be seed with caution and discretion. Is
gas present instance the rejection of the resolution would
boo Ng to the most inconvenient results, and he thought
INS time inereavenimmees ought not be incurred because of
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NUM evils which might possibly arise from the
the resolution. He need hardly remind the
lgiitlMgaat a:ejection must have necessarily resulted in
a damp dorm ent, an evil certainly to be avoided at
*at dam Mar," and laughter.) He mold conscien-
timely t were Lord Derby in power—provided he
(Mr. re) beiend that the war was being prose-
cuted with vigour—be should be equally anxious that
nothing should occur to disturb their tenure of office. If he
thought there was ground for supposing that the govern-
ment was not properly oondttetieg Om war, he should allow
nothing to provost hie voting against them ; but so long as
that was not the emu, he theeght it most important that
they should have the support of that house.
Mr. CARDWELL said his right boa. ?rind bad fa-
voured the houe with a lecture on constitutional principle
isetsad of 'rpm say argument in support of the present
measure. (Loud cries of " Hear, hear.") No Independent
number had =deputed to deiced the mums by arm.