The Express.
London, England, 1855-03-27 00:00:00

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ymDAY EVENING, MARCH 41, 1855.

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jut the meseure, but they ars tinder some difficulty in
taking that course openly in essesquenee of having eon. I
marred in the resolution of let year. (Hear, hut.) They
cannot well get oat of that position, mad therefore they are
endeavouring by a aide do r to undo that which they have
already acceded to. (Hear, hear.) But I have a confident
expectation that the house will nuke good its mewled*, of
but year, and concur in the second reading of the bill.
(Hear, hest.)
The boas' divided :
For the second reading 215
For the amendment
The bill sou accordingly read a second time, and Dom-
mitted for Monday, 23rd April.

ime mm perm proposed by a Tressary warrant te Ss a lower scale. so ea to
payee would net prevent those who would engage in etchpermilingating ltaidtgasiblitedietion of
Piet the five postal fasilitim to cheap printed matter ;std it is =tie'
en in (rem demi it sow. But be was perfectly sure that if tble the hen pademen Mad Mee
such an ateseime attempt at fraud amid robbery were to be late Me. Perri, which 11l net _
.110 his paled that there will boa la
gm bus in the receipts of the Post -office It is a aware which can
made by say person in body of peruse. os an action belay arguneat He then sempleated thet .1.11
that
cams a die pm.. hell sogistion is the ratan charged on books. and doe l i
ma aug emanation from this icons
geangle be serried into effect by • Treasury warrant; it is a mere
bresgbt Its tedignatioa of the jury at such an outrage libelled, by Wag sawed a relation of Priam
vomit ben groat that they would give each damn, a as he was asehlzdsosief the kind ;
would at ease put a stop to such a robbery. Bet if the law garbled*,s not rigs re
gives by Lord LIMO been the Babas- the used= of en art of r
Id negrefillt was sot saddest trader the ordinary • t ate of *eel aesamittee; sad that, on the Wald semehien of hie. adeaelal Union of the PalgovermelealeB=e. ,BlaeLeirg ensaYelaie at
It blbill
theme 18 mind the great joursab, it would be the duty, the norm manse him had bees published end the defuses in the Mode of the boss,
an be we nn it would be the Welton's.. of parliament at left est. TM press had been unused neennill nee Win otteeldelatlen the importance,. "medal on
their
nen to smoke • law to make *myrtles'', mean. He was of bribery; they pretested loudly again IMO; bee *!; Imnindie but oa the d not
wily
w "'wise el
envy above detained the bun so bathe was anxious had positive proof, from O'Mearee ;nen* that Iklen resolliben of the houseiriew, and of
of %la% ttalawailagi - the
°
and on the ground of patting an sod to the monstrous and
to new the great difficulties in these who have to from • mouth was paid to the Tenn by the meennint of ommistasey of the house, and preereviog its decisions;
eilminstes the law were pined to Me Undend the hums that day. But the gnat objection to the prese wee the in-
set, for the sake of getting rid of • minentery dielaulty, satins of its lasipaage ; and would they dare t e am such anomalous state of the lew, add the perpetual scandal
M Mee., with this question, but at caMee., to • dal*• league if they did not find the ministers mouthing re cause
before by its administratios, '
vies. It we perfectly mussel ens that the km Nand een- them ? (Hear, hem.) The sense' of the press on this the bill either by reading it • seew:ritime actrelew elss by rejecting
en
e
linen its union sun. 'ltem ere la OW ,p 11411111•4 me- question rentiaded him of • sign he had sin on a public- it at one; and by sot amnia, to the memeaning, aseleas-,
mist, in additim to the newempiefi Wien* he hod caned hoses somewhere near Autos : sad ddatory motion of my boa. Mind. (Hear.)
the limeades of the house, ethos up by sense. Mete toe teat . Magpie. ea the rigid i Mr. DISRAELI said that the Chneeder nth, liashegur
The great interest excited la the by the events Theatre hos bra getup ass oft ere.
nth' wee bed "died op ureter* dented exeineral to
sins sopa lb. wen awe ..adb.ii.... , hot he we Some of them chattered black, and setae chattered white : dht:ddl'auf:nistasdetottnolluerca Cialisicpwl to
"wicabiliiisilliiiimelliditatsim. Pemelifess...:k7a....bat.::bie
woo. I, eying they woos It plot 4 tut, minded but they were all enzime to prevent .aybody diadem-Log right hoe. swum= to object to uto
noon.
mot
to
modi
as
lllllPlgnpare in every seam of the and against which but tb"""1”L (lA•gbt"') the great principles of policy which had bees so abl ad
tiem the low ought to be so tin were is Mr. DUFFY wished to explain Ids vote on this aces- sated by the hon. member for Hertfordshire that ►yh emi"-d
tid amenity, that at the very easmen these t
he
sloe ; but the homilies°, of the house was no great that very at other times with great ability by other bores? bit be-
nne sheen the government bed dellernini to Wen the Little which fell from hiss could be heard. He was under- camas the recorded opinion of that home we a het of that
sloswasoommashigues goimmolism
if
owswis wissidrimmitosastbessew asshogsbui etamoodwteheeereyperet bytimehorgulidumitrepportrowethr etheremetleoun,gotht the
begropuz: gcrahalety,llthoraatf itthweasßlictwipoesuoirble.
to forresisttheisso,
oseenediagemsa.
so
ptoresisethe
smeLlas use,s sash einsadassis. The mow ha wog *al knowledge. He dialed that newspapers were menu- and so definite. How was the fact 2 Had it always.
ors;--buton it, ion hand, it did ass sow over with tile emmladien, or that they could be bought and sold as or ever been, the sours. fin Chancellors of the
td other 0imi............ whisk gig god pay the tag sessitedlep die Met speaker. If this were dote, niemben Euliman, when a vote of the ho wee given
Mac) Be objected to that part o the unsure which would which could sot be relinquished by the goveroments, and
mommimmo soice-ostiToimood. mod ho thought with of that be might as properly
he their votes. (Hear, with respect to a particular measure to treat it as jot.
,M
. It we riVat that ibeft eh* ef thin should be
deco
sway
will., he law am he estened equally i„,4 resew the seining securities : without such a restriction as with regard to which all question of the policy or ez p°-
anitonely • bat tee it was mealdfillealt to ester on a thatilbolionamblicatiosa would swarm, especially in Ireland. dieocy of repealing the tax,_ or, as now, the proper time f
mow
to immoomowo which mom memo atoms the chi_ The last seem why the journalists he hail all to taking that stop, was to be omitted from discus'. in the
si
define
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amilatheehol Meal!
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ddeelamtyher;
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tuomyessitmemsewadesstherilaw tomtisebiii.i.muaiiiii
show:ha:Maw wesewroeu,
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taihmonsees;whontowwkauwuoadwiltiledthadgett,hoewnglasynutztolonhesesainoiozeuthflagorne
pe,thialite thoheroyEer,
desk soccooot ho down with this „seem, and that it was them APO it est ; the present joureale had nothing to do and the repeal of the advertisement duty was
um mils ter minim l miwee premien to adjourn this question to • distant day, all meat then express the upnlon that the deciaion
lk ibeitmeaties. Aa to the a.endaent, by which it carried by a large majo ty ri 1 Did the govern-
/be Jr. T. BAILING odd be had Wenn with pen "ties-
tine se the toss het ellealent while bed been bet he Muhl my wee that, whatever the hone eine to do, be of the house was final ? Again, they had had the malt tax
mimeo
or theca hog mot the oidoomso smut zit
spr . entreated them not to consent to any nth adjinerainene for repealed by a vote of the house ; and did the Finance Mi-
member fee Kent, that the Chancellor of tb• 11
o
thereby gnat
as to the public, and he trusted that the question tax should be repealed in consequence of that vote of the
„aagreat Jejuna°, would be done to large interests as ouster feel it to he the duty of the government that that
promeing • rusts by libido there would be • Mee to the
runs" of *We than 200,0001. • year, sad that the house would be disposed of at once.
Dow ? Os the contrary, they not only rescinded Is, but
would have to make that up. He we told the eeestry was The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said—l the right hon. gentleman the member for the university of
nosiness en this mint ; but if so, how was it that hon. willingly acquit my hoe. friend of say infinities of making Oxford stated the other night that Sir Robert Peel
suflisman ennadi es extremely sazious to get through the a hones motion by proposing his amendment, or of any resisted that vote of the Bosse of Commons, and
geduides dim duty before they had the equivalent before desire to obtain a party or political triumph. I should not csiled en theme and successfully, to rescind it.
a strong government to repeal the sugar duties, but
them. It woe usual when the Cbeneeller of the Exchequer have had any difficulty is media' to the amendment He (Mr. Disraeli) remembered • vote carried against
a reduction of taxation to ask them to take a full eould I have brought myself to look on this question excite-
that duty was not repealed, and the house was called on to
Mege:mdiprobensive view of their flounces; bet on the pee- lively or principally as one of Assam. Whet I latrodaced
sine essisies:they were salted se go out of the Masi Mune. this rilwiesure I did so under the impression that I was giving rescind that resolution, and it was rescinded. What hap-
The woes he bed pentad out had bus always followed, effect to the declared and recorded reeolation of the Pelted with regard to the attorneys certificate daty 2 There
ezeept ea one osession, when be concurred is a dean. low in May, 1864. Let me Bell he attention the vote wee ,rarried by a large majority, larger than any
den from it. be holding at that time a subordinate of the hoses to the words of that resolution : which had carried the repeal of the tax under discount
dice in government. The own= he referred to " That it is the opinion of this house that the laws in that night. Did the Chatoellor of the Exchequer come
was when they reamed the rates of postage, reference to the periodical pima sad the newspaper stamp forward and say he felt it incumbent on the
they redwood it under circumstances of political difficulty, are ill defined and unequally entereed ; and that it appears government to repeal the duty ? Why It wee not
and he (the right hon. baronet) thought it •• most motor- to thie house the subject demands the eerily coasideration of repealed at that moment. You bad had financial reform,
tussle proceedisg. But they were told that they must do parliameat" Now, air, it is important te observe the time and tuition had been revised, wad yet the attoroers certi-
it becalms it was •• great morel queries, and that they when this r: • dation was speed to. My right hon. friend finis wasnot repealed though Its repeal was sanctioned by
ought not, therefore, to consider it was a mere question of (Mr. Oladeteae) made his Heusi financial statement, pro- refloated votes of that house. Now the right hon. gentle-
£ s. d. He did not wish at all to andante the •rtne posing ten millions of taxation for the expenditure of the man said pat he did not propose to introduce the repeal of
posed to
of the results that lad followed the change ; bat one con- war, on M.y 8, 1864 Oa May 16 my right honourable the stamp duty in his financiel scheme, but he pro
!sequence of it had boon that they bad got the income-tax. friend the member for Manchester moved and carried his repeal the tax before the house was favoured
(Cheers.) In the present ease they were told that it did not etiolation. The house therefore passed that resolatioe with his financial measure,, and were aware in what
involve any great financial difiloulty ; but still the principle with a fall knowledge that the expenditure on the war was manner his plan war constituted. The Chancellor of the
ci was the same. If itey admitted the plea, they would be to be met by increased taxation, and that in • few days Exchequer laid down as a propositioa that could not be
'elentitualy having hon. gentlemen bringing forward =otiose after the statement of my right boa. friend, sad wish that controverted, and se a prin ple which the government had
Ng reductions of taxation, and they would be told that we knowledge fresh in the publie mind. (Hem he If adopted, that when the house passed a resolution repealing
nee a great nation, and that the reduction is question Mania cousiderations had premed en the hew last year a tax it me the duty of the government to act in conformity
ille a small matter. In thin instance their position was still as strongly as they do now on some hoe. gentlemen eppo-
with that vote. He did not agree with the Chancellor of
Mao usoomfortable. If the Chancellor of the Exchequer site, that resolution could not have been carried. As the Exchequer. He subscribed Is the &liiments used
molly and bona Me intended to act upon the pimple attempt bad been made by geatiemes oa the opposite side by the right hon. the member for the Doi-
, which he had laid down, namely. that of nein of the house to throw some doubts is the way varsity of Oxford in the case of the Attorneys
the mosey required for the public serene by means of the of this resoladoe. Objectless have been and' to certificate duty. What did the right hon. gentleinan say
taxation of the year, he was afraid the right hon. gentlemen poising &buttes* resolution en questions of finance, then ? He said it was the duty of the Chancellor of the
would fled that even 200,0001. was not a sum that he could and 1 somewhat regret that my right hoe. friend the Exchequer not to accede at cue to arguments In favour of
I Unpin. (Cheers.) Bat there we • possibility of their re- member for Manchester not bring some specific plan be-
such a motion ; hut on the question of any tax being re.
meting to • loan; and though it might be right to throw fore the committee, stating what we sad what was not Pealed, have the option, the opportunity, and the advantage
tepee posterity a portion of the wet Of • war undertakes oa the law, and what wee the remedy he proposed. But there of listening to arguments which might be of benefit to him
public grounds, yet to raise a loan fee the purpose of redoing can be no reeeouable doubt that is the ease of a resolution, in framing his financial scheme, and to profit
i
taxation would be neither an honest nor a straightforward as in the MOO of an oath, it must be ontrind seesawing. 12y the Information afforded by each a discussion.erserse. (Loud sheers.) In this ease the usual plea, that animas deponent& ; and so a resolution must be interpreted he right hon. gentleman said that if the House of Commons
the trade had been neglected, could certainly not be brought according to the way in which it was made. My right boa. was to dictate to the goverement the financial policy which
iterard. The paper duties had been decreased, the adver- friend then called on the committee to declare that • news-
they should plane, he wanted to know what was the use
Unseen% duty. &holland, and the stamp reduced from 4d. to paper was Oct a proper subject for tax atioa, and upheld of a Chancellor of the Exchequer. So he (Mr. Disraeli)
Id.
Id. So, egos, when motions of this kind were brought in his statement oleos inimical to the newspaper would say to the right hon. gentleman with the greatest
forward, they were generally fortified by complusts to the stamp. After hearing thateterteinent of his views ths house respect, what is the use of the Chancellor of the Exchequer if
effect that the objectionable tax was so heavy that thetrade acceded to the motion. Cat there be a doubt that when be feels himself bound to carry out every resolution for the
was being destroyed. Wes that the, case sow ? On the eon- that motion was carried it implied a relaxation of the law, remission of taxation which the House of Commits, may
nen, the parties chiefly interested made no complaint sad was virtually the abolition wad repeal, so far es a rep- agree to. He should support the amendment of the hon.
Whatever. (Rear, hear.) The fact yea, that this was not a lodes and do that, of the newspaper stamp? (Hear, hear.) member for Kent, and in doing so he did not wish it
San at ell—it was a composition for postal privileges. The The resolutioa by its very tonne implied that the law was to to be considered that he was voting upon the
Chancellor of the Exchequer had stated that 78 per cent. of be altered. Csa any one have the hardihood to maintain merit of the question. He would be ready to
the total weight of the mails was made up of news- that the law, when altered, was to be made more stringent disease the quieten on its merits, when it was fably before
ripen; end nine more per nat. of the bags, of which and saver. ? It therefore wee to be altered, and not made the home ;bat at the present moment, when they were
** nerellgileMs certainly had their &hate. Is fact, more eminent and severe. Well, In what way was on the very Terre and very threshold of the financial state-
B sallalit i•sieshly estimated that 80 per cont. of the malls it to be altered except by bone relaxed, and hew Rent of the right hon. gentleman, no proposition weld be
ay anaidaa the Imposition more rational, or recommend itself by more unasswerable
amemen ef newepapen ; and the sharp for °Gaveling them could it be relaxed except arguments, than that of the hon. member for Kent. The
wed en pansy each, with a small addition for some of the of the stamp not compulsory, bat optical ? For the reasons
Nimbi ; though to other', Australia amongst the restehere I have stated, I believe that in inooduabig this measure. I right hon. gentleman spoke with perfect confidence of his
MOO uni addition. Was a penny too much? (Hear, hear.) was giving effect to the distinct will of tbe been as inn- scheme. The right bon. gentleman, be had no doubt, had,
OS ilide point • few statistics would be valuable. We paid mated last session. It it pleases the house to rescind their confidence in his own scheme, and the government
1
he thenseneyanee of the mails exclusive of office charges, decision, to change their opinion and depart from their re-
might have confidence in the right hon. gentleman ; but the
define sorters, and letter carriers, 693,0001. per ansunteTbe solution, let them do so distinctly by rejecting the bill, not question was, had the House of Commons confidence
packet service cost 794,0001. more, making • total of about by waned the dilatory motion of my bon friend, bat by a in it When the right hon. gentleman asked them to agree
a million and a half for mete conveyance. The sea yielded motion that it be read a second time this day three months; to his proposi.ion without condescending to communicate
by the newspaper stamp was 400,0001., or, reckoning the let the hones rescind their resolution of last w what he intended to propose in lien of th, loss of taxation
additional charge for colonial postage, say halt a million ; nom, and plan the government in a clear Position which be admitted, be thought he was taking a more san-
in other words, the newspapers yielded only one third of with regard to the administration of the law. If you do guise view of the influence of an existing goverement than
.) The right hon. see-
the actual cost of carriage ; whereas they made up four. reject the second reading of the bill, in what position will be was warranted in doing. (Hear
fifths of the veleta. (Cheers.) If they Mese to take the the goverment stand with referee. to this question, so tleman seemed to labour under a difficulty of defining what
whole cost of the establishment, they would find items to ably and solucidlyexplaised by my hoe. friesd the Attorney news vac He hod moistly met with • kind of cabalistic
2,430,000 i. (Hear, hear.) The Attorney 0 ' had General ?Do you propose to alley a certain clams of pub- definition of news in a book of childish amusement which
stated that the government had only two courses open to lifetime, with regard to any one of which it is dilirtilt to might afford Dome instruction to • nilediter of
it—either to prosecute all offenders or to repeal define to +hat class they belong? We have found it dial. finance. (Laughter.) News was there described by the
the law. This was certainly the first time in his life salt to define what a newspaper is la its most extended initial letters of the four Pointe of the compels, these letters
that he had hind then Were not " three coons " seas. Will any define to the eetiahetime of judges and spelling the word il new." (Laughter.) The right hon.(seghtar)—aadi be should certainly have thought that the juries what is a newspaper, or draw • wietaPhysisal line gentleman, therefore, might unionised that whatever
*mai ef Ihe bee. and learned guanine might have between this or that newspaper? If you do impose came from north, east, west, or south was newt. (Laughter.) THE FATE OF THE NEWSPAPER STAMP.
i p te him a *in—namely, the obvious one of de- this task oa the government, I hope somet, gsatlinan oppo. But if it came from only one point of the compass, and
Wig what timid Umlaute • " newspaper 2" (Hear, sits will bring in • bill and give us the besefit of hie eel- •
ssisiS
tap eared in a class pu
boar.) The ben end harmed gamins= said that that was vice in dealing with it. If yon adopt a new &dilation of (Laughter.)
blicei___
This simple insation, then it was not news. e
truction might help the right X eiR question of the newspaper stamp has at
• task of too peat Millenty ; but it wee not avoideil by the the metaphysical difference between ads and that new,. boa. gentleman over the insurmountable difficulty of getting length undergone a full discussion in the Howe of
bill, for there were NO clauses in it which still referred to paper, is the government to prosecute some 160 newspapers at • definition of news. He considered the amendment so commons. Last night, the point at issue was not so
" newspapers." The Cbancellor of the Exchequer stated which have received the indulgence of the government, sound and just, and so suited to the circumstances of the
that he had taken fennel of Puck, and he (Si, F. Baring) and which have grown up under its permission, that the question with which they had to deal, that he felt it to be much the propriety of abolishing the stamp, as that of
thought that if the Attorney-General had consulted on or letter of the law would not be carried out, ante which many his duty to give it his rapport. (Hear.) bringing forward the subject at all until the CHAN-
two sousd, common penes Wines, he might with troth have pumas have bees Induced to invest their capital— Lord PALMERSTON said—The right hon. gentleman CELLOS of the EXCHEQUER had made his financial
devised a definition of what, in the present state of opinion which have masa Into existence a large dam of readers— has stated with great accuracy that the House of Commons
and law, might be considered • . newspaper ?" (Cheers.) whisk have so grown up under the keewn toleration hes enmetimei some to resolutions with regard to remissions statement. The British public is certainly a strange
The bill would by no means be a settlemeat of the question. of the government, end connived at by the been- shall of taxation and finance which the government of the dsy mixture of liberality and churlishness. We throw 1
Two of the most eloquent supporters of the bill (Mr. Glad- . those publications on day indenly find themselves the did not deem it to be their duty to adopt and carry out ;
stone and Sir H. Lytton) had declared that they ought to objets--I may say the victims—of sal 0/800 peellellinaoss, bat he omitted to consider the peculiar character of the re- away millions, and make as much fuss about ahw
have a law of copyright ; but that was left untouched is sad deprived of the privileges they have se Meg enjoyed ? solutions to which he applied his remarks. When • fen- thousand pounds a year u if the national tremor,
the bill. (Hoar, bear.) He (Sir F. Baring) would (Hear, hem.) If that is the entree to Ail OM "mew lotion, which a government resisted, was carried in spite were empty. We are almost ashamed to record the
not enter ups. the morel aspect of the question. mist is to be drives, I trust that the will ef the beim will of the resistance of that germinal, that government, set-
t, the bill pseud, is impel that it would produce all the be dinned, signified by those who supped*, amendment hie ea their own dew, may abstain from Wing any step to fact that a considerable portion of the Hone of
good that was ungsagul Demi it ; bat he was himself by no of my hoe. friend, sad that by tb• rejoins of the nun give effect te the resolution so carried in spite of it. But Commons would absolutely refuse to perform an act of
moms martin wren the putt. They mut remember that reading of the bill. I will not attempt te trued emit the the resolution now under consideration is not of that cha-
they had ems the Nee* of satire freedom is • country not pond of general topics which have bees so ably Maned sad teeter, for it was carried without a dissentient voice : it was acknowledged justice for the sole reason that it might
very &senile: te on own; but when the hon. gentleman so entirely exhausted in the eloquent and net lees regumen- concurred in by the government of the day, and therefore cost the country something short of 200,0001. a year.
(Sir R. Lytton) game le speak of the peon of America he tative mein of the hon. member for Hertfordshire. the government are as much bound by it as the person by What happened only last night ? The Government has
was ennui nes teatg any opines ea to that prem. It had (Hear, hear.) The debate hasalready diverged into sowhom it was emend. (Hear, hear.) Then IS, there.
Mel described by ad bed- gentlemen as "a Memel g; " but many directions, that it is ennecemery far me to say any- fore, an essential difference between a resolution concurred lately concluded an 'ilium with the King of
he "fir F. Egideit) had spoken to Americans who by no 1,i,11 on the various tapirs which have bees brought for- in by the government, and a resolution carried in spite of u.
sDARDINIA—the conditions being that the Sardinian
was meggieM k Woking it so. (Chen.) Upon eery . I will only advert to one point, en which the hoe. it. (Hear, hear.) With regard to the financial put of the
parade N me* gnat end present, neeeseity had bees member dwelt so copiously, I mesa the great alarm which subject, if the question was one of a mere preference be- Government is to send out an army of 16,000 men
wade eat as weeht Justify them in their proceeding with the has seised the ntembpolitan and proviadal eirem with regard twsen financial operations, I could understand the ground on
bill. He' min mintend that they ought not to take off tale- to the mused abolition of the stamp. The metropolitan which thole gentlemen who cling to the tax as it stands resist tO the Crimea, and that we are to advance a million
den unless they she showed the means by which the dia. prow we* to think that when the pearly .tamphremoved the meths of my right bon. friend. But the motion is not • year for the expenses that will be incurred. Some
deny they Nested might be supplied ; and he should it will be ruined by the provincial press, sad the provincial greened OR financial preference. (Hear, hue) It is objection indeed was made to lending a large sum of
therefore vote he the amendment (Cheers.) mese eons to think that in that cam it will he ruined grestdel net merely on the mention of last year, but oa
Mr. PACKS entirely agreed with the sentiments of the by the metropolitan Tinos, end they both appear to think reechoon which that resolution was and founded. money, which may possibly never be repaid, and the
Might hoe. baronet. that they will be by some mail* press which is net (Beer, hem) All must agree that the law on this subject Tories, to do them justice, protested against what
Mr. MIALL felt persuaded the loam Weald sever repent yetis mistimes. I confess that with meet te thus fears was in an hieenvenient and intolerable state. (Hear, hear') looks very like a return to the pernicious polioy
of its decision Is adopting this bill. they seem to proceed wither hem imeshmelen than hem The law as it stands cannot be enforced, and therefore it
Mr. DRUMMOND said ha bald *neon os his qua. reason and examination of Worley gusaisi ma expedene mud be altered. .(Hear, hear.) The law must be al. of subsidies. Bat the thing WAS done with-
tioa eery dillieset hem them whin lie led heard expressed and on foam Whet was the einref lie reeleetiee se the terse, beans. it is • 'caudal that a law should out • murmur. It eru quite pleasant to
on either sides( the Imam (A lath) It was his opinion 44. stamp told. Surely that minsiss hew limn had • exist which by its own satire cannot be enforced. (Hear,
wanes' the alacrity with which oar representatives
that,
that, instead of the pealed 'limy en advantage to the greeter aeon on the large newsmen then the eseeneal of hear.) Bitter you must make the law more stringent wa
country being the press is its present state, it was his firm the pony damp can possibly hue. Tell we know midi) more precise than it is now so am to enable the law voted away a million of next year's taxes. No sooner
impotence Plea hires tee of the grey hn memo (Laughter.) expenses that the newspapers which ofileen to entry the penalties imposed for its supposed infra had this been done than Mr. DEEDgs rose and oh-
Thews penegyeigi of a free pmm wend have been very largely I. the metropolis anti the megineee bear- tion let execution in every we in which • doubt existed.
vellum; is Seem of the Tnd.e s esaepw the Steams ; bet dud rather than lest by the Medea 0 the duty But that is • mune which I think the house would not be jectod gravely to the immediate abolition of the pewe-
es leMillity 01 arms &on wenn of a power from 44. to Id. They are in pemehate• of the market, of prepared to follow, and, if not, I think you must follow the paper stamp, lest the CHANCELLOR might not be able
they dared net sin & (lionind sheen.) They who owe sepital, of eczneximo sod an the Oki dna* he elver- course pointed out by the resolution of last year, by relax- that sum from the revenue.
the beat j is press thenseives, bencen and declared *deg, and they mu ester the ttew hid el enepetkion ing the law, and solve the difildilty is the way of Mitigation tom ePere a filth part of
plainly that were the Ins Ossetia ef aerobe, of the with glutei ad than ay el this nos genipati- and indulgence. Ido not exempla' that the change is Poor Sir FRANCIS BARING war petrified at the km.
ads
nation, sad the atembeed die ...ninon who had tore. I "oppose that • Muse will expect OM I should likely to be followed brae danger and inconvenient, which gnlarity of the proceeding. There are some men, we
esatleseended te it es the beinek end essays their salaries, say souseelsg of the financial aspect of the quetien, which is anticipated by einelem. gentlemen. Ido not anticipate
were My the roman et the bikini ef dm nem Be hasrevivedme muck attesting in the**, el the debate. that it will be pridnelin sleben injury to existing news- suppose, who are so attached to the " established
'peed with them who thenght nee the demand of the lam sot Mon to deny that the estimated We of 200,0001. papers which the niespereeithemailves are so industriously
pm.. wash es it wee, woad be meteridly lensed by the a year is • Materiel eireamstanco fee the eassiderstion endeavouring to punk the 'public that they see threw order," that they would sooner see the country go to
proposed. Talk of the prom se We' the wow of the how. Nevertheless, in emetreetiog the plan toned with. (Hsu.) I am pomaded that the existing wrack and ruin than sanction the slightest change in
may..
the essatry was isettnelid 1 Nei minder then of finance which it will be my duty to lay newspapers commercial speculations if you Please, as official routine. Once, too, when Sir Fa Aldo held
kapassairy we so 111 histuseed. Be* mid it ens before*, hens dined immediately after the boil- they were deeerhed in the amusing' *Wei Of the hon.
the preesthat the people Mond day leletary ; and dam, allowance bee bees made for the lees of revenue um- member for Surrey will maintain their ground in a subordinate position in the Government, as indite.
melees ago they nee told by gems patinas that it was dosed by this redlines, and the /Meanest in their re- spite et any competition to which they ma be cation of this kind happened to lead to some rather
sears worth wills Wren • page of • ousemper the& the sposeibility will proves* mei a sehenbe of Inns es wi.l exposed la consequence of this misfire. (Hears hear') serious consequences. The memory of this disaster
whole of Therylides. (Hear, beer.) The tenth of the peed& amply for the expeaditare of the year, including lam satisfied that the apprehensions they entertain are
matter was Platdie weall cant and soneenee ; the press the loss occasioned by the redaction of the newspaper gromiC110111; and iam equally convinced that then will be has haunted him ever since. It has pursued him
was • emeshdes, sod nothing she. Why should apt she stamp. That will be their propeeitlee, and whatever risk so real diner to the morale sr the loyalty of the country through life as the insect pursued 10, and has now
Mesas. Willie sad their huni4 set up a great masersa- they run by that loss of revenue ; the governmeet will take from theZeeezipublicatiose which may rise up shin the
tory of mon jest as the ben member he Maselteder the reepeosibility, and with the full knowledge stamp Is ohm, Imo m], so beaus think I have driven him into a course of policy which simply
weld set up aumanfastory for seinen ? (Laughter.) They that the reduedon is to be provided for on the ooash&• In the good wise and good feeling of the lower contradicts every previous art of his political history.
IMO fait Os* seasfestar• to different sonnee to the proper oceans by the home. Thus the lope of 200,0001. is classes of this ecnistry. (Hear, hear.) It is to them only
laden the .In Rome, for instance, they carried on the estimate of the Post-oftee &ethernet', Mt it Is not that the ebzmutiblications will be addressed, and I have So much for the financial side of the question. It
t of antiquities; lien, nobody sand fended on any seetchadato, but euly en the beet thet End such in of their good awe that I believe is extremely doubtful whether the revenue will not
antiquities, therefore it was sow te saansfeetars be fiend. The estimate doe, sot make allowance fee soy to rabibiadene which may he fraught with dell" benefit, instead of suffer, from the change in the
Ilsoll. la Muesli old modals wee menahatared; bid incemee In the paper duty. TM parer peeduse "bent to nese& will have a permanent existence. It is possisle
Stamp Law. But we think it perfectly monstrous to
that would sot answer here very well. Upon the whole 1,000,0001. • year now, and if the enielpseiser we have and probnie that the attempt will be swede to establish each
*tests of the Wish pope wee he gerdp—pnlttloall based with regard to the emstry behtinmeinhei with new pabliedemet but he was sure that the readers to whom they allow any considerations of probable lose to inter-
. and that they must have In toe rwrn or another, seuempare is realised in say pineeptiblodurn by so mach would be eilirentd would reject them. (Mear, beer.) 0
- ° fere with the enactment of a law whose • tice • Jus is BO
, what it might. Theyisad Ithell e gnu many (dittos ea we may anticipate an imam is the enenne of the the ether hand, I believe that a else of cheap publications
r nue eine he knew it ; the feet be remembind our a rape *sty. I de we leekee le give may esti- will Wee, whieli will COMM ate
them whit ore not able to obvious. Sir LITTON BULWEB, in a speech of
Tooker; .Ist that they ha had a greet many clever nee ef the iseresse if the paper duty. I only My thinner ;open instractiou and Mowing*, by which mrpwing eloquence, had the honesty and
SW beeneene Walters family awn set do an she link say Media the et MBA& enkinlated .cen so allowenee their uatentandispe and morals will be improved, and their
as they hired peewee to de •it far them, and has less endie he ma kressula no p ' den. There is minds at the same time entertained sad =Meg. (Rear.) the courage to desert his party banner and
war one of those enteenleat Ms. • banister of o*Weetelifilleintildibileislemin to ;Igeneumi hon. I therefore immortals an •apprehension on that soot*, and to stand forth as the champion of an unfettered
/MI Itharliagr who wee reedy le tee_•_seelt„,._,as eleeebles_
_____, _llB_6 MON a IaPPIYISS a 0 Nee ealleei by the that being say opiate, I thank the hoses will best perforela
meet. BeH remembers i next Mr. names ,aar. wenn* of 140 emernbery stamp. I mean • book- its daty to the public by emouring in the proposed bil . Prelim- It is
' , Mr. g , Mr. Dotatee, Me. Media, do Lowe, pet i n en men liquid and wheelie ere (Hem.) Bat of this lam sere, that we ought to deal with oomplaints put forth from week to week by persons
4
ma . Dealt. ( laughter.) . These Men nee very sot eels bill; white are set awariellsola bat the usesticia 4eo way or other. (Hea Letnot i positively ludicrous to read the whining
- the -n. who seem to think that the character of the British
to listen to, bet is the whoa they make of eipted risme et variant aorta, sad whisk en not entitled 'idioms *deo of the hon. member who propc.ed delay _ ,
Sti
" they frightened every I
men
otTe.
Some
„p.m
lies
viewer:, A:towboat:lt
smote be
.eleseeed, mitintliMee the metal Mintage derived decisive any en. (Roar, hear.) All should under- Free °spends upon the payment of a peony to the
. onnesuatented with the ffeemeaster• wand that what we are voting for is whether the revenue for every copy that is sold. It is the old
iteemelne too pm*, ea the redden, end then when the OsepraWam te sine ebonite gemeasient will, Bible hill memos le to be adopts/ or sot. Let it be ender
,tor
went dews, down west the mime. (Laughter.)
seemed to kW, eat the Ten perfeedmi Si jollrealbee wee g•rryafrandi We Weeds's • beek-Pellthell at Wow Moe or no fee the hill- (" Ber, bear," and " No. no") lear one speaker last night, every man wants protection
ree.1.48 4" ellastiew a the *set he pep by a Tree: steed that the vote we are called ea to give is eye story. iie it was very properly put by more than
-dieidaal Musty and collective ionsptien. (A Intq) -*ea, these that sew Sint. Ilia muesli book postage. ea. passossa say " No." Weenie Ido sot expect that for himself, and dente. it to hi, neighbour, Talk of
Net evil was the. lawless systole ef libellee. it , steps at 1 lb. for ea. fee mead huh" ,spelaspreeed eerier. ribose who use opposed to the meows will nom in say in-,
4to a Feee 'sleet In that meet hi tbss; t That postage is sqeldiebed by a Teem wee, ud it is lerretelk, Sqlll2 misled of the Tillet TOOT wish 19 re- inCOnsideficy 1 Wb7 bete are a score t( papers that

SUPPLY.
The boom; then went into eosantittee et supply, sad the
following votes were agreed to.
836,1821. for salaries and expenses of the Cur tons dope:t-
aiga.

482,8381. for salaries and expenses of the Post-Aim de-
partment.
1,186,0001. for salaries and expenses of the Inland Revenue
department.
The house then resumed, and the resolutions were or-
dered to be repented to-morrow.
The other orders of the day were then disposed of, and
the house adjourned at half-past 1 o'clock.

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LONDON, TUESDAY, MARCH 27.

LATEST FROM ABROAD.

The Moniteur of yesterday contains the following
atement :

" General Foray quits the command which he
lately held in the army of the East, and proceeds to
Algeria, to take the command of the division of Oran.

" This general officer, considering his military
honour affected by unworthy calumnies, tendered
his resignation to his Majesty. His Majesty has
not accepted it. The Emperor has been unwilling
to deprive himself of the good services of an officer
whose long and brilliant military career is the best
reply that could be made to all these calumnious
rumours:

" The general has just addressed to the Minister
of War a fresh letter breathing the noblest senti-
ments, in which he insists on his resignation being
accepted.

"The Emperor responds to it by conferring on
General Forey the command of the important divi-
sion of Oran."—Daily News.

The Time* gives the following as a telegraphic'
despatch from its correspondent at Marseilles :

" MARSEILLES, MONDAY, MAaca 26.
" The Thabor, which left Constantinople on the
15th, and the Enphrate, which left Constantinople on
the 19th, have arrived.
1

" Despatches for the government left at 6 p.m.

" Letters from the Crimea of the 17th account
that Omer Paella arrived at the camp of the allies a
Ithe 12th.

" On the 13th the Russians opened the fire of their
batteries on the heights of Balaklava.
" The English, assisted by General Vinoys, routed
them.

" On the 17th the Russi►ns attacked the whole
line of the allies, and were driven back with great
I loss."

The Moniteur of this day (says the Times) pub-
lishes the following despatch from Constantinople,
dated the 19th:

" In the night between the loth sad 16th inst. the
French troops carried a line of ambescades occu-
pied by the enemy's sharpshooters; at the same

. .
time the Russians Made a sortie on our extreme left,
which wu vigorously repulsed. _ _

" They had 60 men pat hors de combat, and
withdrew in disorder."

;.
3

a few years ago were hunting protection to the
death, and triumphing over its final annihilation,
now beseeching the House of Commons to defend them
against competition. No. Let us make a clean breast
of it at once. As public journalists, we perform
great services, we gather an enormous man of
information, and pretend to instruct our neighbours',
but we still are human, fallible, and inconsistent.
We must refer our readers to the admirable speech
of Sir LYTToN BULWER for a crushing reply to whet
we can only call the trash that has been uttered
as to the possible deterioration of the Press in case
the new bill should pass into law. Why should the
Press deteriorate ? The most probable result of Sir
CORNEWALL Lxwts's measure will be, that instead of
one class of daily newspapers we shall have two,
and the rick will buy the more expensive one,
while the poor will have a supply equal to their
demand. Statesmen must have a low opinion of the
intellectual condition of their countrymen if they
think that persons who have been accustomed
to daily journals, conducted as most of them are at
present, will be content with an inferior article; and

the masses, as they are called, must be in a lament-
able condition if every cheap thing that is sold must
perforce be also "nasty." No paper that fails to
furnish news will live for a single day. There will
' be class journals of every kind, but any journal pro-
fessing to do what the morning papers do now must
be conducted as they are, or die. All we ask is, that
no legislation shall stand between us and the public.
The price of our commodity will be regulated as
easily u the price of corn was on the abolition of
the duty. For ourselves we really don't want the
few pennyworths of daily protection that we are sup-
posed to derive from the existing law. We wish to
be in the same position as other merchants, and to
make

our own bargain with our customers, whether
they be the public or the Government. As for the
cheap and piratical newspapers with which we are
threatened, the ATTORNET•GENERAL last night ex-
pressed his opinion that the existing law of copyright
is sufficiently strong to protect us against any injury
of that kind. But if these hopes should turnout to be
false, the same House of Commons which has decided
to give full freedom to the Press can surely enact a
new law to meet any emergency that may arise.
We do not think that, so long as the British Press
maintains its present character, or, rather, grows
with the growth of years, expanding and advancing
with the resources and demands of the country, any
man of sense will wish to destroy its power. We
have no desire to encroach upon the duties of our
rulers, except, indeed, so far aa the greatest states-
man is he who mostiaithfully expounds the public
opinion of his time. We have our own work to
perform, and are by no means anxious to do more
than to collect information from every quarter of
the globe, and to pursue it with faithful com-
ments. Let the public judge of us by our works. We

are very certain that in cur case, as in the •
cue of every other department of human labour, our
success will be in proportion to our efficiency. The
House of Commons has now, by a considerable ma-
jority, acknowledged the principle for which we con-
tend, and it is to be hoped that not many days will
elapse before the Press is set free from those restric-
tions which have hitherto done so much to thwart its
legitimate influence, and have at least made that the
privilege of the few which ought to be the possession
of the many.—Day News.

(room Sus

FRANCE.

r DINT OP Till DAILY NIWS.)
PARIS, MONDAY EYNNINO.

The departure of the Imperial Guard for the
Crimea, which was postponed last week, is positively
fixed for to•morrow. Three trains are engaged to
receive detachments at the Lyons Railway station, at
9, 10, and 11 o'clock. Other portions of the force will
leave Paris every day throughout the week. The
Guides bivouacked in the Bois de Boulogne yester-
day, and were inspected by the Emperor and
Empress. Yesterday evening the Emperor enter-
tained a large number of officers at a " Punch
d'adieu" (farewell bowls of punch) at the Tuileries.
On the subject of the reported waiver by the Em-
peror of the demolition of Sebastopol as a condition
of peace, the Constitutionnel says :

Without being in the confidence of the government, or in
the secrete of the conference, we should suppose from nu-
merous indications gathered from various quarters, that the
impossibility commonly believed in, on the subject of the
stipulations relative to the Black Sea, dots not exist. The
destruction of Sebastopol no longer figures in the number
of these stipulations, for the reason that the siege of which
this place has been the object bas never been considered
otherwise than a means, and not as an end, by the Western
Powers. What they pursue is common in the Black Sea
with their fleet and army, is not the ruin nor the capture of
a military port, it is the reduction of the farces which Rus-
sia has msiatainod in time parts—it is the species of domi-
nation which she exercised, and the privilege she enjoyed
there, to the detriment of all Europe, and, above all, of
Turkey.

The Pays speaks to the same effect, and it is clear
that this is the authorised diplomatic language of the
hour.

The Monileur de l'Armtse says that several foreign
journals have exaggerated the amount of the Russian
force in the Crimes, stating it at 170,000 or 200,000
men. This journal affirms that the total effective of
the enemy's troops, including the garrison of Sebas-
topol end those stationed at 'l'chernaya, Batchi Serai,
Simpheropol, &c., and before Enpatoria, does not ex-
ceed 115,000, of which 25,000 belong to cavalry and
special corps. The number of Russian guns in the
Crimea is also mach less than has been stated.
The Bourse was somewhat lees confident than on
Saturday. The Rente fell 35c., closing at 69fr. 90c.
Most of the railways, however, improved. Eastern
rose 15fr. Austrian fell 3k. 75c.

General Prim has just arrived in Paris from
Madrid.

A bill has been presented to the Corps Legislatif
for modifying the French patent laws with a view to
the Universal Exhibition. Any exhibitor who may
desire to reserve his right in his invention will be
allowed to apply to the directors of the Exhibition
for a certificate, instead of at once taking out his
patent, and paying the first instalment of 1001 r.
required by the present law. This certificate will
protect him for a year from the day of the deposit of
the article with the committee; after that period a
patent must be taken in the usual form. The bill
will be applicable to foreigners as well as Frenchmen,
and to articles not strictly patentable, which, under
the name of detains de fabriqw, are regulated by a
special law.