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THE CAMP IN THE CRIMEA.

I

JUNE 14, 1856.

THURSDAY.
ENCUMBERED ESTATES COURT.

SARDINIAN LOAN.

justified the conduct of the company in stopping
payment of the annuity in question, and warned the
house that if they taught the natives of India to
look for the redress of their grievances, not to the
local authorities, but to the English Parliament, they
would destroy the influence of the Government of
India, and transfer khadput (not corruption, but,
what was still worse, undue influence), which they
bad banished, from Baroda and Bombay, to
England.
Sir F. Kelly withdrew his amendment, and the
further consideration of the bill was postponed to
Wednesday next.
The Aldershott Camp Bill and the Oxford Univer-
sity Bill respectively passed through committee.
The Insurance of Lives Bill was read a third time
and passed.
Leave was given to introduce "The Earl of Perth
and Melfort's Compensation Bill."

The LORD CHANCELLOR, in reply to Lord Donough-
more, said it was the intention of Government to
bring in a short continuance bill in reference to
the Encumbered Estates Court, unless the House of
Commons should decide upon incorporating that
court with the Court of Chancery.
*The committee on the Reformatory and Industrial
Schools Bill was postponed on the motion of Lord
RAVEN SWORTti.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER brought up a
message from the Queen, relative to the remaining
one million of the Sardinian Loan. The Chancellor
moved that the message be considered on Monday
next.
The house then went into Committee of Supply,
and passed the vote of 100,0001. for civil contin-
gencies, after a protest from Sir F. BARING against
the insufficient information afforded the house, no
statement being given of the balance in the Ex-
chequer, nor of the amounts in the Pay-office, or of
the sums loaned out.

On the educational vote of 151,0001. to complete
(in addition to 300,000/. already voted) the sum
necessary for defraying the charge for public educa-
tion in Great Britain,
Sir G. GREY entered into detailed statements
explanatory of the increased charge, and of what had
been done during the past and preceding years to
promote popular education by means of parliamen-
tary grants, appropriated by the Committee of Coun-
cil in aid of voluntary efforts. Since 1839 upwards of
2,000,0001. had been granted by Parliament, and
distributed by the Committee of Council on Educa-
tion, in aid of voluntary instruction. There was a
rapidly increasing spread of education. In 1839
the vote was only for 30,0001., last year it was
396,000/., and this year 451,0001. Since 1850 the
number of school buildings, pupil-teachers, Queen's
scholars, students, examined masters and mistresses,
inspectors, schools inspected, children examined,
and per centage of children under ten years, has
increased from 285 to 414, from 4,660 to 8,524,
from 39 to 972, from 205 to 1,254, from 980 to
3,432, from 19 to 36, from 3,098 to 6,966, from
214,873 to 569,076, and from 37-17 to 33-44, ex-
clusive of the 600 workhouse schools. These figures
he contended were highly satisfactory, and suffi-
ciently proved the excellence of the present system,
which should be supported and extended.
Sir J. Nen:trots, expressing his entire concurrence
in the statements of Sir G. Grey, and his thanks to
the Government for proposing so liberal a vote, con-
tended that the education was deficient in quality,
and the provision insufficient in quantity, to supply
the education requirements of the community. From
the want of a better system we were rearing up a
vast criminal class entirely ignorant of religion.
An improved system, and money, were the two things
wanted. The education of a child cost 6d.; the child
contributed but 2d. towards that sum, and the ques-
tion was how to supply the other 4d. He hoped
that before the close of another session some definite
measure would be brought forward to make adequate
provision for this deficiency.
Mr. BARNES moved to reduce the amount of the
vote to that of last year's, which was 396,0001., on
the ground that the present system of grants was not
satisfactory, and he desired to prevent its further ex-
tension. He denied that the great difficulty was
want of money; the monster difficulty, he said, was
the indifference of parents, and our efforts, as now
directed, tended to increase their indifference and to
undermine their sense of responsibility. If the grants
were exclusively confined to classes so poor as to be
incapable of educating their children, he would not
oppose the vote.
Mr. M. GIBSON observed that the arguments of
Mr. Barnes would justify the discontinuance of the
grants altogether and refusing any parliamentary
assistance. He urged the revision of the minutes
of Council, the adaptation of them to the wants
of the population, and the injustice and impolicy of

THE PRESS.

denying any participation in the parliamentary grant
to schools in which secular instruction only was given.
He could not vote for the amendment of Mr.
Barnes.

Mr. Fox opposed the amendment, but urged the
Government to extend the grant to secular schools.
Mr. CROSSLEY supported it.
Sir G. GREY, in a short reply, observed that, with
respect to applying the grants to poor districts, how-
ever desirable, there was this among other difficul-
ties in its way, that there would be a deficiency of
local voluntary contributions, and if parliamentary
aid were given irrespective of such local contribu-
tions the effect would be to check them in other
quarters. He could not hold out any prospect, he
said, that grants would be made to merely secular
schools.

The amendment was negatived, and the original
vote agreed to.
The chairman was ordered to report the resolu-
tions.

The amendments to this bill were considered, and
the bill was read a third time. The question that it
do pass was postponed, in order to give Lord Robert
Cecil and Mr. Heywood an opportunity to move cer-
tain amendments.

The Aldershott Camp Bill was read a third time
and passed.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that he
would not name any time then, but only engage that
the army estimates should not come on on Friday.
Mr. BAILLIE thought it right to state that he did
not intend to adhere to the motion of which he had
given notice. In consequence of the important
events which had taken place in America, he should
give notice of the terms of his motion when the time
for bringing it on was fixed.

PEACE PRESERVATION (IRELAND) BILL.
Mr. MAGUIRE moved to deter the second reading
for six months.

Mr. BRADY seconded this amendment.

Sir G. GREY justified the Government for intro-
ducing the bill, the object of which was to give the
Lord Lieutenant power to preserve the peace and
repress crime in certain districts.
Upon a division, the second reading was carried by
77 to 10.

TESTAMENTARY JURISDICTION BILL.
Sir F. KELLY, in reply to Mr. R. Phillimore, said
that the amendments to the bill were not printed,
nor were they in such a shape as to be placed before
the house before the second reading. In moving the
second reading the Solicitor-General would take the
opportunity of explaining the scope of those amend-
ments, which would be brought before the house in
a formal manner prior to going into committee on
the bill.

The army is now being rapidly broken up. Upwards
of 20,000 men and 1,000 horses have already em-
barked. A grand parting review of the army was
held on the 24th of May, in honour of the Queen's
birthday. The French medals were distributed to
the army on this occasion ; 25,000 men were present
on the ground, and the review was attended by Mar-
shal Pelissier and staff.
The health of the army continues excellent. The
28th, 4th, 44th, and 47th regiments had embarked.
Fort Nicholas at Trebizond was about to be given
up to the Russians. Sonkhum and Redout Kaleh
would not be evacuated till the end of Jane.

MARSHAL PELISSIER AT THE REVIEW.
Marshal Pelisaier, in the full uniform of a Marshal of
France, his breast glittering with orders, rode a large and
showy jet-black charger, richly caparisoned, and his ap-
pearance suggested a comparison with that of Sir W. Cod-
rington, who was attired in the undress of a general offi-
cer, and was mounted on a small grey horse, scarcely to
be distinguished from a pony. The Marshal, who is by no
means formed to be a good horseman, being very short
and very fat, with legs of a great thickness but little pro-
portioned to their length, seemed rather tired before the
march past was finished, which is by no means to be won-
dered at considering the frequency of sights of the kind
which he has attended for the last three months.—Tiates
corr., May 24.

THE DISTRIBUTION OF MEDALS.
The divisions were formed in square, inside which were
the generals and staff officers of each, dismounted and at-
tended by the regimental staff officers. Marshal Pelissier
and the French staff and Sir W. Codrington entered the
square of the Guards and assisted at the ceremony, and
the Marshal, I believe, said a few words on the occasion
to the officers around him. Lord W. Paulet, in distri-
buting the medals to the light division, made a little
speech which did not please some of his officers, for he
was supposed to have said the men ought to prize the war
medal more than that which they had received from their
countrv. Lord Rokeby and General Barnard distributed
the medals in like manner to their men, the reason for
the bestowal of the decorations being read oat as each
man stepped up to receive it, and the presentation being
generally accompanied by a few kind words or some brief
eulogy. The 58th Regiment received the medal for valour
and discipline in the trenches from the 29th August to Bth
September. The 82nd, I believe, did not receive the
medal, as they came after the siege was over. The High-
landers had anticipated the ceremony, for tbey had ballotted
for their share of the medals. and they bad been presented
with them by their Brigadier at Damara the previous
Saturday. It is a very pretty decoration of blue enamel
and silver, the medal hanging from an eagle's claws, and
the eagle itself being attached to the breast riband. On
the front of the medal there is a well struck effigy of the
Emperor. and on the reverse are inscribed, within a
wreath of laurel, the words " Pour valear et discipline."
—lbid.
After the review General Codrington gave a grand
dinner to the divisional generals.

Interesting scraps of gossip connected with the
great siege still continue to be picked up from stray
Russian officers, who seem on the whole to be tole-
rably communicative :
. _ _

A Russian engineer officer (mites the Timex correspon-
dent) who dined in my company last night, told us some
interesting facts connected with the siege, which showed
that there is the same jealousy between the various
branches of the Russian service which exists in our own.
Todtleben, who is now at Cronstadt, where he was sum-
moned to superintend the defences, never could get men
enough from Prince Gortschakoff to carry out his plans.
The Russian engineers say Todtleben always predicted that
the fall of the place would begin to be accomplished when
ever they were obliged to abandon their counter-approaches,


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justified the conduct of the company in stopping denying any participation in the parliamentary grant I The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that he
payment of the annuity in question, and warned the to schools in which secular instruction only was given. would not name any time then, but only engage that
house that if they taught the natives of India to He could not vote for the amendment of Mr. the army estimates should not come on on Friday.
look for the redress of their grievances, not to the Barnes.
local authorities, but to the English Parliament, they Mr. BAILLIE thought it right to state that he did
Mr. Fox opposed the amendment, but urged the not intend to adhere to the motion of which he had
would destroy the influence of the Government of Government to extend the grant, to secular schools. given notice. In consequence of the important
India, and transfer khadput (not corruption, but, Mr. CROSSLEY supported it. events which had taken place in America, he should
what was still worse, undue influence), which they Sir G. GREY, in a short reply, observed that, with give notice of the terms of his motion when the time
bad banished, from Baroda and Bombay, to respect to applying the grants to poor districts, how- for bringing it on was fixed.
England. ever desirable, there was this among other difficul- PEACE PRESERVATION (IRELAND) BILL.
Sir F. Kelly withdrew his amendment, and the ties in its way, that there would be a deficiency of M T MAGCIRE moved to deter the second reading
farther consideration of the bill was postponed to local voluntary contributions, and if parliamentary for six .
months.
Wednesday next. aid were given irrespective of such local contribu- Mr. BRADY seconded this amendment.
The Aldershott Camp Bill and the Oxford Univer- tions the effect would be to check them in other Sir G. GREY justified the Government for intro-
sity Bill respectively passed through committee.
quarters. He could not hold out any prospect, he ducing the bill, the object of which was to give the
The Insurance of Lives Bill was read a third time said, that grants would be made to merely secular Lord Lieutenant power to preserve the peace and
and passed. schools. repress crime in certain districts.
Leave was given to introduce " The Earl of Perth The amendment was negatived, and the original Upon a division, the second reading was carried by
and Melfort's Compensation Bill." vote agreed to. 77 to 10.
THURSDAY. The chairman was ordered to report the resolu- TESTAMENTARY JURISDICTION BILL.
ENCUMBERED ESTATES COURT. tions. Sir F. Keels, in reply to Mr. R. Pbillimore, said
The Loma CHANCELLOR, in reply to Lord Donough-
OXFORD UNIVERSITY BILL. that the amendments to the bill were not printed,
more, said it was the intention of Government to The amendments to this bill were considered, and nor were they in such a shape as to be placed before
bring in a short continuance bill in reference to the bill was read a third time. The question that it the house before the second reading. In moving the
the Encumbered Estates Court, unless the House of do pass was postponed, in order to give Lord Robert second reading the Solicitor-General would take the
Commons should decide upon incorporating that Cecil and Mr. Heywood an opportunity to move cer- opportunity of explaining the scope of those amend-
court with the Court of Chancery. tam amendments. ments, which would be brought before the house in
*The committee on the Reformatory and Industrial The Aldershott Camp Bill was read a third time a formal manner prior to going into committee on
Schools Bill was postponed on the motion of Lord and passed. the bill.
RAVENSWORTH. AGRICULTURAL STATISTICS BILL.
SARDINIAN LOAN. The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in reply to
THE CAMP IN THE CRIMEA.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER brought up a Mr. Bentinck, said, on Monday next a statement
message from the Queen, relative to the remaining would be made of the day on which the measure
one million of the Sardinian Loan. The Chancellor would be brought forward.
moved that the message be considered on Monday COUNTY COURTS BILL. The army is now being rapidly broken up. Upwards
next. On the motion that the Speaker leave the chair to of 20,000 men and 1,000 horses have already em-
The house then went into Committee of Supply, go into committee of supply, barked. A grand parting review of the army was
and passed the vote of 100,0001. for civil contin- Mr. ROEBUCK requested Sir George Grey to inform held on the 24th of May, in honour of the Queen's
him whether it was really the intention of Govern- birthday. The French medals were distributed to
gencies, after a protest from Sir F. BAanio against
Govern-
the insufficient information afforded the house, no ment to pass the County Court Bill through the the army on this occasion ; 25,000 men were present
statement being given of the balance in the Ex- House of Lords. on the ground, and the review was attended by Mar-
chequer, nor of the amounts in the Pay-office, or of Sir G. GREY said that he had communicated with seal Pelissier and staff.
the sums loaned out. the Lord Chancellor, who expected that the bill re- The health of the army continues excellenembartked.
. The
ferred to would leave the House of Lords in about a 28th, 4th, 44th, and 47th regiments had
EDUCATION. week or ten days. Fort Nicholas at Trebizond was about to be given
On the educational vote of 151,0001. to complete up to the Russians. Soukhum and Redout Kaleh
(in addition to 300,0001. already voted) the sum RELATIONS WITH THE UNITED STATES. would not be evacuated till the end of Jane.
necessary for defraying the charge for public educe- Mr. BAILLIE wished to ask a question with respect MARSHAL PELISSIER AT THE REVIEW.
tion in Great Britain, to the course of business on Friday, in reference to Marshal Pelissier, in the full uniform of a Marshal of
Sir G. GREY entered into detailed statements his intention of bringing before the house the sub- France, his breast glittering with orders, rode a large and
explanatory of the increased charge, and of what had ject of our relations with the United States. He showy jet-black charger, richly caparisoned, and his ap-
been done during the past and preceding years to had been given to understand that the army estimates pearance suggested a comparison with that of Sir W. Cod-
promote popular education by means of parliamen- were to come on on Friday. The noble lord at the rington, who was attired in the undress of a general offi-
tat7 grants, appropriated by the Committee of Coun- head of the Government had promised to give him cer, and was mounted on a small grey horse, scarcely to
ail in aid of voluntary efforts. Since 1839 upwards of due notice before these estimates were brought on, be distinguished from a pony. The Marshal, who is by no
means formed. to be a good horseman, being very short
2,000,0001. had been granted by Parliament, and and he therefore wished to know whether it was the and very fat, with legs of a great thickness but little pro-
distributed by the Committee of Council on Educe- fact that they were to be considered on Friday. portioned to their length, seemed rather tired before the
tion, in aid of voluntary instruction. There was a The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER, in reply to march past was finished, which is by no means to be won-
rapidly increasing spread of education. In 1839 Mr. Baillie, with respect to bringing on the army dered at considering the frequency of sights of the kind
the vote was only for 30,0001., last year it was estimates, as regarded his motion on the American which he has attended for the last three months.—Tisses
396,0001., and this year 451,0001. Since 1850 the enlistments, said that the intention of her Majesty's corr., May 24.
number of school buildings, pupil-teachers, Queen's Government was, if the civil service estimates should THE DISTRIBUTION OF MEDALS.
scholars, students, examined masters and mistresses, be got through that evening, to propose the navy The divisions were formed in square, inside which were
inspectors, schools inspected, children examined, estimates on Friday, and if then permitted they the generals and staff officers of each, dismounted and at-
and per centage of children under ten years, has would, after going through the navy, proceed with tended by the regimental staff officers. Marshal Pelissier
increased from 285 to 414, from 4,660 to 8,524, the army estimates. and the French staff and Sir W. Codrington entered the
from 39 to 972, from 205 to 1,254, from 980 to Mr. BAILLIE objected to such a course, which he square of the Guards and assisted at the ceremony, and
3,432, from 19 to 36, from 3,098 to 6,966, from should consider a breach of the engagement into the Marshal, I believe, said a few words on the occasion
to the officers around him. Lord W. Paulet, in distri.
214,873 to 569,076, and from 37.17 to 33-44, ex- which the Government had entered.
boring the medals to the light division, made a little
elusive of the 600 workhouse schools. These figures Mr. DISRAELI said that his impression was that
speech which did not please some of his officers, for he
he contended were highly satisfactory, and suffi- there was a distinct understanding between the hon. was supposed to have said the men ought to prize the war
ciently proved the excellence of the present system, member (Mr. Baillie) and the noble lord at the head medal more than that which they had received from their
which should be supported and extended. of the Government that snfficient notice should be country. Lord Rokeby and General Barnard distributed
Sir J. Peentorort, expressing his entire concurrence given of the intention to propose the army estimates, the medals in like manner to their men, the reason for
in the statements of Sir G. Grey, and his thanks to in order that his hole friend might, if he thought fit, the bestowal of the decorations being read oat as each
the Government for proposing so liberal a vote, con- call attention to the question of our present relations man stepped up to receive it, and the presentation being
tended that the education was deficient in quality, with the United States. It would be in the memory generally accompanied by a few kind words or some brief
arid the provision insufficient in quantity, to supply of the house that he had on one or two occasions ad-
&eudlog scidi. Thne in e s.Bth Regiment received the medal for valour
pli the trenches from the 29th August to Bth
the education requirements of the community. From dressed a question to the noble lord (Palmerston)
September. The 82nd, I believe, did not receive the
the want of a better system we were rearing up a upon that subject, to which, however, he had ob- medal, as they came after the siege was over. The High-
vast criminal class entirely ignorant of religion. tained no precise answer. Had the noble lord then lenders had anticipated the ceremony, for tbey had ballotted
An improved system, and money, were the two things been present he should have repeated his question, for their share of the medals. and they bad been presented
wanted. The education of a child cost 6d.; the child because, although no arrivals had been reporte.i, with them by their Brigadier at Kamara the previous
contributed but 2d. towards that sum, and the pies- there was an impression about that communications Saturday. It is a very pretty decoration of blue enamel
tion was how to supply the other 4d. He hoped of great importance bad been made from the United and silver, the medal hanging from an eagle's claws, and
that before the close of another session some definite States to her Majesty's Government. However, in the eagle itself being attached to the breast riband. On
measure would be brought forward to make adequate the absence of the noble lord, he (Mr. Disraeli) the front of the medal there is a well struck effigy of the
provision for this deficiency. thought it more convenient for the due discharge of Emperor. and on the reverse, are inscribed, within a
wreath of laurel, the words • Pour valeur et discipline."
Mr. BARNES moved to reduce the amount of the public business not to put the question, and no doubt
—lbid.
vote to that of last year's, which was 396,0001., on his hon. friend (Mr. Baillie) was influenced by the After the review General Codrington gave a grand
the ground that the present system of grants was not same feeling. He therefore thought that some pro- dinner to the divisional generals.
satisfactory, and he desired to prevent its further ex- per opportunity ought to be given to his right hon.
Interesting scraps of gossip connected with the
tension. He denied that the great difficulty was friend for bringing forward his subject, and if the
want of money; the monster difficulty, he said, was Government really intended to bring on the army great siege still continue to be picked up from stray
office who
the indifference of parents, and our efforts, as now estimates on Friday, they would perhaps meet the
rabl Russian
ommunicrs, ative :seem on the whole to be tole-
directed, tended to increase their indifference and to convenience of the house by appointing a day for the
undermine their sense of responsibility. If the grants discussion. A Russian engineer officer (mites the Timex correspon-
were exclusively confined to classes so poor as to be The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, if it dent) who dined in my company last night, told us some
stin fts connected with the siege, which showed
incapable of educating their children, he would not suited the convenience of the house, it would be thatinter there isac
the same jealousy between the various
oppose the vote. better perhaps to fix the army estimates for Monday.
branches of the Russian service which exists in our own.
Mr. M. GIBSON observed that the arguments of Mr. DISRAELI said that the time which would be Todtleben, who is now at Cronstadt, where he was sum-
Mr. Barnes would justify the discontinuance of the most convenient to bring on this question would de- maned to superintend the defences, never could get men
grants altogether and refusing any parliamentary penil upon the information which might be furnished enough from Prince Gortschakoff to carry out his plans.
assistance. He urged the revision of the minutes by the noble lord at the head of the Government. In The Russian engineers say Todtleben always predicted that
of Council, the adaptation of them to the wants the absence therefore of the noble lord, he thought the fall of the place would begin to be accomplished when -
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of the population, and the injustice and impolicy of it would be better not to fix any precise day. ever they were obliged to abandon their counter-approaches,
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pearance suggested a comparison with that of Sir W. Coil-
rington, who was attired in the undress of a general offi-
cer, and was mounted on a small grey horse, scarcely to
be distinguished from a pony. The Marshal, who is by no
means formed to be a good horseman, being very short
and very fat, with legs of a great thickness but little pro-
portioned to their length, seemed rather tired before the
march past was finished, which is by no means to be won•
dered at considering the frequency of sights of the kind
which he has attended for the last three months.—Tisses
corr., May 24.
THE DISTRIBUTION OF MEDALS.
The divisions were formed in square, inside which were
the generals and staff officers of each, dismounted and at-
tended by the regimental staff officers. Marshal Pelissier
and the French staff and Sir W. Codrington entered the
square of the Guards and assisted at the ceremony, and
the Marshal, I believe, said a few words on the occasion
to the officers around him. Lord W. Paulet, in distri-
buting the medals to the light division, made a little
speech which did not please some of his officers, for he
was supposed to have said the men ought to prize the war
medal more than that which they had received from their
country. Lord Rokeby and General Barnard distributed
the medals in like manner to their men, the reason for
the bestowal of the decoration,' being read oat as each
man stepped up to receive it, and the presentation being
generally accompanied by a few kind words or some brief
eulogy. The 56th Regiment received the medal for valour
and discipline in the trenches from the 29th August to Bth
September. The 82nd, I believe, did not receive the
medal, as they came after the siege was over. The High-
landers had anticipated the ceremony, for tbey had ballotted
for their share of the medals. and they had been presented
with them by their Brigadier at Damara the previous
Saturday. It is a very pretty decoration of blue enamel
and silver, the medal hanging from an eagle's claws, and
the eagle itself being attached to the breast riband. On
the front of the medal there is a well struck effigy of the
Emperor, and on the reverse are inscribed, within a
wreath of laurel, the words " Pour valear et discipline."
—lbid.
After the review General Codrington gave a grand
dinner to the divisional generals.
Interesting scraps of gossip connected with the
great siege still continue to be picked up from stray
Russian officers, who seem on the whole to be tole-
rably communicative :
A Russian engineer officer (mites the Times correspon-
dent) who dined in my company last night, told us some
interesting facts connected with the siege, which showed
that there is the same jealousy between the various
branches of the Russian service which exists in our own.
Todtleben, who is now at Cronstadt, where he was sum-
moned to superintend the defences, never could get men
enough from Prince Gortschakoff to carry out his plans.
The Russian engineers say Todtleben always predicted that
the fall of the place would begin to be accomplished when -
ever they were obliged to abandon their counter-approaches,
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