The Express.
London, England, 1852-12-17 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY EVENING. DECEMBER 17, 1852.

eillethe, we have sever hen loathe lite seensity if
appealing. sir beakers. (Cheese.) Well, sit, the son
agree tea will enderstami that if the 400,000 L had
hese paid hate the hainees of the Itmeherease, it yeah!, in
the preseat state of sad., hams hen kat Mks kekkg up
that 400,0001.1. an hen shin (Chess) There it would
have Ma lannabia, inn, alai table. (Hear,
hear.) I nue walk elk the madamsapell to peados my
he
manilahaste kis pertimiktio ON' downs i'l la""
are sot well n sees to the hem. The Whammies
is meet to myself, for I was not hems • Chanel., of the
Exchequer. (A laugh.) I an ems ef the pediment.,
rabble—(laughter)-4., MMs .is re dmenerier whir
have bees sane, I Met that hen nenhase will see that I
do know semetking Nast It. (Cheers.) Will, then, It
was quite Iles that the sink hen amber for Kalifs:
was not la Men el Nit 46,6881.. be* paid lab' the ha'
bloom a the 22211/18. bat the eight bon. gentleman
waken. that. ile to redselag the debt of Eat
land. New I de not *et to that, beenes it is elitirMY
the view of the Remanent (Cheers.) The original
tranaction bags. with 1,006,0001., namittlli the Etsb•lllln
ball .1842; and it will be messiest to begin at that
date, shim, h dam was a small suss funded before. In
that
theyea; then, the satioaal debt was is ; and,
saps right hes. member foe the University, Jou ought
te defray that anent by the repayments. Well, the.
the right benumb. patina= (Mr. Gladstone), me well
as the ban. member far Halifas are against the .am being
paid late the balsams of the Exchequer. Let se minim
this quake of the rennin of the debt. Now, upon this
subject there is a very great !gamines prevaleit even is
this hens. I have hese asked myself, "What do you
leave for the technics of the debt in your flitansial scheme ?
Yes have left nothing." But the mode, the method, sad
the steam by which the siskirig fend Is put late operation
and by whin the public debt is liqukla.ed, does not depend
sport the will of the Laker, or upon • vote of the me
of Common (Hear, hear.) It is provided for by the
legislature. The law has perheribed the method by which
you must reduce the national.... Tiler. is only one mode
of doing it, and that meth is this :—Tbe law has prescribed
that every waner an &cosset shall be taken of the income
sad expenditure of the Trenton ; that the surplus shall be
merman; sad that sue-fourth of that surplus shall be
instantly devoted to the liquidation of the public debt, sad
to set the sinking had in motion. (Hear, hear.) This is
sot la the discretion eta Ingle House of Parliament ; it I.
• law inexorable sad peremptory. (Cheers.) It te totally
impossible that you on down the debt sad
et, salaam you brineatg mosey into wan and
re-
mesas It is only when it eaters into the
belesess that a surplus eat be ascertained, sad
that on-fourth of that surplus era be appropriated to
the pansies of the debt. (Cheers.) I till show you
hew 1 ken seen ea the debt, sad the way in which I have
reenimened parMamest to deal with this 400,0001. repay-
ment of lens. The bones will perhaps meek this, that
en surplus for the swain( year is • mend oni. I hat
400,0001. will some in, the mosst of the keens and sa-
p...item takes at the end of the Ant quarter of the Sem-
-2141'. The surplus is 400,0001.; and a gnaw of that
far the year is isusedisitely devoted te the Moo-
ds. of the debt. (Cheers.) Toe sass openstion takes
pleas la every three maths ; and, at the end coke year,
the whisk 400,0001. will have ben devoted to the reduction
of the debt. (Chaste.) Ia three years, A things renutin-
ing *same, end the sense repaymenui eentiaulag to eater
lags the Tsaesery, the whole sum of funailimehnetem hill.,
the slaw or sessey, would be liquidated aed paid fee the
✓eention of the debt. Then is no other way in which
yea en set upon the public debt ; and If the ematittee
with the two eight hen enigma (Mr. Madam and Sir
ttheeles Wee. de set approve of leaving the moan as an
lams helms in ea over fall exchequer, and object to the
se.. whisk I take, there is no ahem:tin The law has
diddled It. (Cheers.) I have recommended, then, the
sonntittes to put an end to • disastrous waste of public
money. (Ches..) la the second place, I have relieved
the sessobdated fun of an nasal papas. of 3,0001. •
year; and I have laid the foundation of the reduction is
the fourth year of the public debt by 1,000,0001. (Cheers.)
Now, sir, I think that the mune has seemed • very
thanes as t. (Loud sheen.) Bet this is oaly on se-
conn el what I have den. Lit us is. what the gnat
asehnities have eNd apes this sallest. Hitherto as I have
pet *sear. tho merry of the Meer of Career may
have hen of eyries that rough I have reed discreetly
sad wisely, I have oar eareadietedly.
__ But what
de the higher eiathentise say ? It IBM • 'sleet
erwarittes of this keen the @proud** le inspire
isle the pare ammeepr ea et remearemill the rem b
whisk the ►kerbs Ma thus elements larks be
To that eissittee we are holated for dmst every for..
Oporto resat' whisk are , Fever ; and what wee its
nermemeetheisa ? That airatlee, helped as it was of
dr mit diergelehed men who la eeneeteatin their
setwilien urea dile lane% ipealleany asermainied dial
a shies advisee _S seppreate sherd eater into the
aunts of Seers an impmmillter•——ead for sit
yam afterwards they did asseenngly me
in the public
amousts. (gear, hear.) Now, I Isom it will be said that
✓ime was earner eamusittee is 1828, and that they took a
dialect Cow af the ere. That dose not invalidate the
hi* avithedref the eurrittee of 1822, or deprive me of
re pre that /alai: Is met unprecedented ; but the OW
Mame of legg, dry natmanseaded„ r sore rave.
moms, that ate ran end repayirate *rid be
kept swam*, they added that whenever those st-
eam Medi be Opp* the repayments should gain
be breogit ins the IMO, accounts. (Cheers.) But in INS
• law was panel which entirely took the matter out of my
discretion The 10th of George IV.,:ehap. 16 declares, the
rely w 4 15 whisk the Warr ens as—namely, in defer-
rers pe libe emerreadmilene of the two committees, to
bring the Oat the Weft should be stopped, into
the war imi uses.. (Cram) It has been to se, •
nem • pukka matter to have to trouble the
committee this subject, but I think after the
sliorelos beam rude, it was a duty to myself, sad
ens to the depirtmest to Which I. belong, to give the kom
these detain (Chaars.) Wall. ear, I now . approach tha
snood arrait . the right hon. baremet has brought
spinet ay thil statement. He says that it was a
grams mink that I mule is estimating the deficiency
that weal sees, to the revenue from the raj et of the
si of the tax. In pheing that Miami
betirlell melt
emerniier, I amid I believed that la the yea:
18114-2 there would seem a lees from the Stand ran duty
...4,,,
of 1,760,0001. Tier ben. endure seethe he less
mar he ausesically . ; hut he
of 200,0001. Met mu it
,Eriait air rade an allewires he dutch
herot, amid It alight be take& at 1100,0001.
ead Om thh_ peispirenes budget errs perfectly &titres.
Me C. viaga—l ve yea credit lees 400,0001.
The CHANCELLOR of the =CHEQUER—Now
errs I bright here the considerades of the emarnitios
the grams et the arise* of the malt tax, I ter that
her Illsaware givesereet bed lamed in their area
of the ran us the imetrerederies et the etrentre of
Baia Insley weird roe by Air H. Pena. That
roarer regermedei rat _ whomever there sheer be
free trades re aka, as Ibsen be boil riceelitheed that
the teak given to ambers by the ciao sherd be re-
=.llLew, thisegb theeii,,,eredit wet three Is rim.
snt resiiiith ia and threes ft wee errs-
=Mt rake same ,I die( wins to distort the
But seder cpailserata I geope is 1824.5
these will be a anas ef MOAK pat SS the Warm which
word sot atherwies her taken plow. Ararrag,
tzi that the aeradad bee aa the imaLrepeal
,116:So be 2 art darker, that, of erne
ill would give I she ded•red the
whisk the Ma. laser arida her the
....a.=.l.drarth4e_erti and ben ; ain that perms
the I MAIL I milill no olleememe at
-argelearesied _ j_biaLkeinag art free* the
tight boa. Wear kbirtpl.M,Ml. t if I took the data
=lBllme by the metbwitir in the Salk the ler
ealeturt te • rent ens. (Cheer) If I only
teen the hiereeed eenenrplies at 400,0001., the melee
weal be 11011,0001., an sr MAU (Load cysheer) list
the rah hoc Oaderis (Me. sa Iva h
redo isseare KeedimatiaCleelg yeabsra;mmelt drawback.
To. have Items airs he r sod you sass he wrong.
Now 1 pay 'peal althaties to the visarke ef the esChen.
NUM el tbe theibegeer, who have her like beldame
raligtherherberan (Leaskter.) En MUT allthelmear
Meier rear yea ewe Jeigraeat am the theta whisk are
third behee lee. (Hear, hear.) The bier* aught:C-
-r% whiteharmonise es this sabjer ere vie reel, sad
wire dgemie and lergrity et aimemplir ow ses
=umber I or imilera iimr der grei SUM.
ea nIN. elf des de firs re be patrol
haling—theme earthears united ties rearraseadies re to
take re-third et the reek es the serer ea ~a the
drawback wird bees te be paid ea the Irk of Oeleber.
That is, of thorn* of the duly i obi the ear I
err nr.srifi to err ea • eery mor Ma IRIS MAU
Weil, I took it et AI AK eicilleil. (Haar, her) " But
gal Mr. Lowe) why fa era the 10th of Orehr ? Here
is the white plee—M re re only AM eat why the
neat red apse the 1001 et thlober." I bare Mr-
11
veey rem rani he his aria emseidenble ieheratiee ;
sad se re lestral, bemeriag, he
syei has thews imirratima
mapeiise le rem bar I as wased skis • grams
she appeased to ibierghly seater eta er eg rewfag,
sad gave seek en_ asat dream 0 re ran .1
credit te wialigehmalf me why tl ear ea Ihe
Oiler, re enrsetWeal of the salt ims.afta
had hese me as with *fee reselelleas it
was est ran& the ea the salt tax would he
pared; yet the pay which I recommended and ma-
emenesd in Dresher wield, had I net promised a ran-
t/ma, have paralysed the trade. Every relater be the
essaft7 wield MID raga, (Hear, hear.) It wee abr.
Maly aeceeeeey that I !veld marquee a drawback an the
Our be hand, earl the eireeraere le the troth gees en
Jet as eras. (Heir boar.) The boa. tl with
his rerehable imMINIIMIS sheet ng end milting,
aught to Uwe thed= theanteent of the duty
he Shia dna is hr IBRI Is charged between the
sculls er threbee eakgpd. The arequence would be,
if I milirtheed a &mirk te be ghee in April, that I
1:2
ibe cad ea fee three times the arc s t. (Hear.)
virtually sores at the end of May. From May to
Oileber it does net p es, but brewing dose go on. (Hear.)
The brewer esti upon the stock of the stater ; sad there-
ilir, ill have le pay a drawback, I pay it ander the most
aleargethe oreemistiner at the period when the malting
✓em aria emealaillella (Hear, bear.) And fa fixing
tint day I laid the airy day which I could prudently
select. (Hear, heat.) Mr. Lowe reminded me that he
should expel an sneerer In es reply to what he called a
parallel me, obit the 400,000?. reps s of lows My
wenn eve wend be this. I should trig the ere of a
wend master 0 a Zany, who every three menthe took
limelesinelinerraelp%peaditure sad Wooer, and devoted re-
;lZr dab Lestilisgayreat of his debts, a perks
by idea nem fee hit see • but
his sea, tibia he mans. his repays se, maim then: late
the Makin who gave hies the order ; sad the father, ia-

' IMad of allewiag the balsams to remain at the beaker's,
tithes them into kis gamma amount every three mouths,
and with the surplus contributes to the reduction of the
debt. (Hear, beta.) Aeolis.: fault found with my budget
is this. It is said the Kaffir war has not terminated. In
=titsup my opiat es that subject, which I put
e&
with great humility, I made a statement as to
the prospects of that expenditure. I formed that
with Irma & re foresee to the dispatch* received by
rlieeletary far the Colsaies, and to those addressed to a
hesanit at the ferries leader my own control—the commis-
*slat. And I meet say, whatever may be the result, that
I believe a public had was never more ably administered by
public men then the extraordinary expenditure for the
Kaffir war has hese by the ammissariat. The infer-
'Ratios thus naiad, which has
justified met at the commencement of the year in not calling
upon the home to sanction that vote of WO,OOOl. which had
been proposed. (Hear, hear.) I made the statement the
other night, that I believed the Kafir war was closed. We
he* had more sweat iaformation ; and I can truly say that
all the information which has ratchet me has entirely sub-
Mutated the statements I made on previous authority.
(Cheers.) I have not the least hesitation in saying that the
Kaffir war is terminated ; sad the best evidence of this Is
that the commissariat department, who ate dealing with
the extraordinary expenditure, are winding op their
extraordinary accounts, and, except for some casu-
alties which may occur in winding up the account, they
would not trouble you fur any further advances. Another
point has been urged by Mr. Goulburn. lie says I have
made no allowance for the lam to the
permiesion I ant going to accord to refine in bond. It will
be extremely inconsistent fur me now to enter into details
on that subject. The refining in bond will depend on con-
ditions which I have pledged myself shall be pisoed before
those MOM interested without being previously bruited
abort I can only say, therefore, that I did not make any
allowance for that lees, because I believe not the slightest
lam to the revenue will Moue. (Hear, hear.) It has been '
said that the house tax has bean proposed by the govern-
ment in order to carry the semi-repeal of the malt tax. I
admit that that is • plausible chugs : it is a good party
charge. (Hear, hear.) I don't object to gentlemen oppo-
site making the charge ; for if I were in their position and
circumstances, it is very possible I should make the
charge myself. (Cheers and laughter.) Nevertheless,
it is not the best charge, nor a true charge.
(Cheers.) They have no connexion whatever in the origin
of the measures which we have thought it our duty to re-
commend to parliament. fitir J. Graham informed the
house last night that I had promised the country a new
system of meat., i, but he did not addues any authority for
that important statement. I will sit down now if the right
boo. baronet wil give me say authority. The goverment
did more than they promised ; ail did not promise a
sew system of taxation, but fay did revise the system of
taxation of the country. (Heat, bear.) We
mised it, but we did it. We gave to that aubject a long,
an anxious, and • most painful consideration. (Hear,
hear.) In reviewing that colossal subject I may call it,
the question naturally divides itself into many groups. In
the first plat, we had to consider these arueles that en-
tered into the general assumption of the people, that ware
necessary for their healthy sustenance, and that were ex-
posed to soormous imposts, al tea and malt, on which we
felt it was necessary that something should he done to
meet the principle of unrestricted competition now
permanently established as the principle of our
eenumercial code, and in order to assimilate the
financial system under which a community live who were
subject to the principle of unrestricted competition. We
had to consider the whole question of the stamp duties,with
reference to those real burdens upon land—upon the trans-
fer of land—(bear, hear)—which must, wooer or later, be
dealt with. (Cheers.) And there is a question of the
utmost difficulty which must also not long be neglected,
—the question of legacy and probate duties. (Chem.!
We had to consider whether it was possible to propose to
parliament a duty on inceessimis, which, in connexion
with a total reformation of the burdens on the transfer of
land, would he sa equitable and just settlement, and one
fir the welfare of all classes. That I call the second division
of the subject. In the third place we had to consider them
stains laws which exercise a pernicious influence upon the
employment of capital, and upon the employment of labour,
bke the soap and the paper duties. (Criss of
't Hear, hear.") The question of the assessed tans,
with the necessary reforms which they require, alone
formed a fourth : end we were obli.led to consider
the whole of our foreign tariff with regard to our
commercial relations with other countries; because there was
an inclinatioa on the part of some countries to increase
those manneercial relations, and because we wished to enter
into *am (Hear, hear.) Thaw was all great subjects—
all deminding our attention, with all of which goveranteut
mu* same, or !wee deal ; and we had to choose bow to
ear meow this arduous effort. There was also another
very impareent mean= to consider and to settle before we
could donde them as to the first step we could take, and
that wee the gawks how far we should prevail upon the
country to Ix urea that sum of direct taxation which was
necessary to my finistry which attempted to enter into
the carter of commercial reform. (Cheers.) I hays been
accused by fir Charles Wood of making • proposition
which recklessly increases the direct taxation of the country.
I have been accused by the right hon. gentleman the mem-
ber for Carliale—prompt in accusation stall tirats—(cheers)
—of pushing direct taxation to a rash extent. These are
weighty charge.. But what are the facts? In the first
place, the proposition made on the part of the government,
instead of recklessly increasing the amount of direct taxa-
tion on the country, if it month will sot waft so great an
amount of direct mistiest se permiled wader tbe oaperin-
teedeace of the fineness if Ilbe right bus. ganiemen the
member for Halifax, whoa be orleyed set only ea hems
and property tax, bat a window tax whisk brews* Ma ha
2,000,0001. sterling. (Hear, hear.) nand** Ism gesitle-
man will reply— but but I was aware taut yes must nth
ruthlessly increase direct taxadme-4 Wes leeteme and pra
perty tax, hut I took we to redoes 1,960,0001. that
I received last year as window tax, and was content with
the modest sum of 70(1,0001. by way of commutation as
house tea. • (aser, hear.) I cannot let the right hon.
gentleman offin that way. (Hear, hear.) I cannot forget
that when he recklessly charges me with increasing the
amount of direct taxation, he had, even after that commu-
tation of the window tax for the house tax, a larger amount
of taxation than that which I now propose. (Cheese.) Bat Is
this all ? He who charges me with recklessly accessing
direct taxation wee the minister, who, with • property and
income tax to the full amount, and with the tax in
addition, au* down to the House of Commens one day
and startled it with a proposition which would have
nearly doubled the proper* and inmate tax. (Vehement
cheering.) Reckless= ! Why, sir, I look apes recklessness
es
a carelessness of seasequences, as the midis* of a man
who did not oust in what enterprises he embarked.
(Cheers.) If the right hon. gentleman had carried that
duplication of the property and Income tax, I think he
might be fairly eased with recklessly ineressing the direct
taxation et the essatry. (Renewed cheering.) But the
most curlew thing I that the minister who made that pm-
position, sad volunteered grave home to °then, at the first
murmur of the oigemithe withdrew the proposition. (Be.
Mrcheers.) Talk of recklessness, *deed. (Chien.)
, is the whole of dna** there is nothing like
this mailgrams of the hes. gentleman. (Cheers.)
And what was the en which he withdrew the
vionstrem and one mews ymptoitioa which he vainly
V * St f •Whim le Ms defeated, kidded,
sleseete OWN down to the house
ad head that be al ellillieient remise without doubling
the theme aml peoperty tax. (Prolonged cheers.) Why,
=ill at end* it. (Hear, hear.) The future
will net he believed who tells that a minister pro-
posed to double the property and income tax, and when
refused that ha sem down to sprdat he bed sufficient
ways and MOM wftheut it. eltesseet thearing.) And
then he tolls me, in wet very sod snares) y parlia-
mentary language ,_ that I do net knew my business.
(Lend cheers„) He may have lamed his business.
(Laughter.) The Renee of Comae Is the best judge of
that. (Chases.) I ears sot to be We eritk ; but if he as
horsed his business. Its has still to boars that
=le nth and that therdenes is not
ik aM ' ministerial **nag.)
Is the he great mote of taxation to which I
sod all 0 which demand the considers-
**, = of this country, I must advert to the
great q of direct taxation. There was limed an in-
MOM sod tax ia existents for a brief space. It
Woe whine that if the minister came forward with
antis a Iktejoilien be might obtain a temporary cantina-
emse of that Wroth though ft was not by any mesas for.
,Ufa. Bat there were peculiar oirennutances econectef
with the polities of the ministry and the property and a-
muse taa. Not llejestre mermen% were of opiskn that
the liallielesill4is= be lidera& when the government
of ibis • a difference of incomes
whin teem permanentr:rdssinemass arising from preen.
rime therses. (Hear, hear.) It was natural that we
should set theirs to diminish the proceeds of taxa-
tion et a niement when we did not wish
the resenras hots direct taxation to be hymned.
It *Althea to answer every observation that may have
been motion the course of this debate. But 'bother right
be. eiWmma eriticksed my bill before the proper das—
h's/me it hem hum laid ?afore the house. When my bill is
Mhos Hanlon" and when he sees it, the right hoe egotis-
m& may the witicies it. (Hear, hear.) dir, I can tell
the right bLanat gestleman the member foe Portsmouth that
we are not of the anomaliesanomalieswhich exist in schedule
D. (Hear, .) The right hoe. gentleman may and
some dailiwit the, seaside
yof my Clike that I have not neg-
ligent snidest (Hear, hear.) It is a subject of the
reale* with whisk any person can have to deal,
sal to }redoes &waste which would do essapiete justice
to ad, may well esimes the genius of the man that
ever existed. (Hear.) But we have anifeaveneed in the
bill which I may have to lay lame the hews Meath that
diffiadt question. (Hier, hear.) Bat it is imible for
me at this moment to give our estimates to the house. The
difficulty of the subject is great, tad schedule D is not the
only one in which we have made alterations. (Hear, hear.)
I said that in the estimates I brought forward there would
appear not a soesiderable, but an apparent deficiency as
compared with the lest year; but I said I did not think it
would last. I do not think the present is the proper time
for entering into the details of the lamas and property
tax. (Hear, bear.) I can snare the hones they will find,
whoa the proper time arrives, that the subject has not
been neglected, though I venture to say that whatever de-
cision the house may arrive at u to details, it will not ma-
terially change our financial resolutions. (Hear, hoar.)
We have considered the great subject of direct taxation,
and we found that it would be impossible to embark
on any career of financial reform which was to
be a reel and easiest one oaks there was a certain
amount of dined lawation to which we could trust. (Hear,
hear.) What is the ala we laid down he ounelves ? Li-
aised of • reales bellastisa to pita Most Imasion to a
fob eatrusee we embed eat lb. dust lasiliss oa which

we should rest should be In amount inferior to that which
mealy prevailed in the country, and which ince the
repeal or the corn laws has been cheerfully scented to.
We laid down two principles in dealing with this question:
first, that there should be • difference made between
incomes derived from a certain and an uncertain source;
sad madly, the principle, which we believe to be a just
principle, and which I am convinced will yet be
thought a jest principle by the pulnie—namely, the
principle that the basis of direct taxation should be
enlarged. (Hear, hear.) Having these two principles to
guide us, we thought that we acted moderately, scientifi-
cally, and wisely. in the measures which we have brought
forward. (Cheers.) In reeognising sod applying the prin-
ciple of the difference of fixed and precarious incornee, we
certainly have not erred on the excessive side. (Hear,
hear.) We believed that the reeogeition of that principle
would be gratifying to the workiug millions of this country.
(Hear, hear.) And in asking the 101. householders to
contribute to the revenue, we thought that we were taking
a course which was perfectly justifiable. (Hear, hear.) I
did not introduce the subject of the franchise. But I am
one who never associated the possession of the franchise
with mere money. (Hear, hear.) And I tell those who
are so anxious to introduce this subject, that it it is to be
recognised as a permanent feature of our social system,
that there is to be a political elate in this coun-
try who are to exercise political power, and if you
throw an undue weight of taxation on the wealthy cleaves
and of indirect taxation on the working classes, I cannot
imagine any circumstance more fatal to the country or
more pregnant with disastrous caesequences—and pregeent
in the Bret place with disasters to the privileged class.
(Cheers.) The right hon. baronet (Sir J. Graham) told us
that the class of persons who had 1.501. a year were those
who were least able to bear the burden. The came ar-
gument was used by the hon. and learued mem-
ber for Southampton. (Hear, beer.) Now this qua
has been investigated by, lieu who are superior
'to all our party strifes. It has been investigated by a gen-
tleman who, I believe, is a liberal, and who, though he
should sit on the opposite beaches, I should like to s-e in
this hove'. Mr. Gregg says, that if there be any position
well established respecting the incidence of direct taxation,
it is this—that there is no class on whom it falls
more lightly than on those who have 1.501. a year.
It is the property of 3001. a year that bean the brunt of
indirect taxation, and that I think has been shown in a
manner the most complete and satisfactory. But we had
last night from the member for Carlisle (Sr, J. Graham) a
most piteous appeal to the house upon t''.e hardship of tax-
ing poor clerks of between 1001. and 1501. a year. lie stated
that 1501. was exactly the point where skilled labour ends.
Toucan recal the effective mane= in which the right hon.
gentleman said that—(great laughter)—an unrivalled artist
In my opinion when he tells us that this is the point where
the fustian jacket ceases to be worn, and broadcloth becomes
the ordinary attire. (Much laughter.) Stich, sir, was the
representation of that eminent personage, for whom I have
great regard—l don't so much respect him, but I greatly
regard him. (Roars of laughter.) Now in deciding upon
the incidents of taxation, no one kn-stir, who has not em-
barked upon that terrible enterprise, the authorities that you
have to appeal to, the documents that you have to read,
the labour that you have to go through. lam sere that, as
for myself. there is probably nothing that was ever written
or thought upon the subject, which I have not had to
digest. (Laughter.) My researches have been ample; and
among the memoranda which I have had to guide me—for
what should guide me T—l hope I sin superior to quoting
Hansard and all that sort of trash— (great laughter)—but
still in matters of business, state papery, the documents in
public offices, the records of great minister, who have
preceded my humble efforts, must guide me—l say
among the memoranda which I had to mein me, I found
the Superannuation Tax Bill of 1834, which was drawn
up and introduced by the right hoe. gentleman (Bir J.
Graham), being one of those great and praiseworthy efforts
which be made to improve the administration of the public
oboes. And this is the principle which he laid down. I
find that in the Superannuation Bill of 1834 the line was
drawn at 1001. per annum—(great laughter)—that the poor
clerk under that sum only pays 21 per ceat., and that the
poor clerk above that sum, though he may have
only 1101., pays 6 per cent. (Load ministerial Metro)
That is toe of the great legislative labours
of the right ben. gentleman the member for Carlisle. What
is my budget ? I know my deficiencies as much as any
man in thi, erase, probably more. But, after all, what is
to guide as T lam pet Italy willing to forget all the epee
pteneenta of debates ;but, when I get into office, when I look
at records, when I fled statutes, then I suppose I read the
calm conclusions of statesmen. (Hear, hear.) Although
I would not legislate, whatever respect I may feel for the
right hon. gentleman, upon a speech, if I reed hisdespatches
and statutes, then I feel that, though times may have
changed with regard to political matters, yet this is the
better mind of the man—(ministerial cheers)—and it being
the better mind of a most able man, 1 confess it in-
dueness me and it has influenced me, in that arrange-
, meat respecting the poor clerks which was so much
at last night. (Loud cheers.) And remember
awulailhatitappeasid to the poor clerk since 1834, when this
statute was drawn. (Hear, hear.) Remember the reduc-
tion of taxation which the poor clerk has bad the benefit of;
remember the repeal of the corn laws. (Hear, hear.) Look
at the position of the poor clerk who, with 1201. a year, had
a doable tax placed upon him by the right boo. gentlemen;
look at his petition now, and consider what it was in 1834.
I say, without hesitation, that I do not believe the position
even of the labonring classes of this country has been so
much improved as the position of that peculiar class. (War,
hear.) Well, sir, having agreed that it was necessary,
before we undertook the great labours which we thought
we might accomplish, that we should have a certain amount
of taxation to rest upon; having determined that
we would make these differences in the assessments of
the schedules which must inevitably reduce the amount of
direct taxation tram that sum which our predecessors en-
joyed ; having attempted to supply the amount which was
secemary by our proposition with respect to the house tax in
the manner which was reasonable, which was lust, which
was on the whole most beneficial to the country, and which
, in its operation would ultimately tend even to the =lvan-
' tage by the effects which it would produce, of the chute
which we wished to affect ; having by these measures, if
eneassful, obtained the emeent ef direct taxation which was
ameesty, and Walk lii is. again remind the house, was in-
herit to that whisk only two years ago was en-
' =hy ear proisierseors' we had to decide upon
of tie fith grasp of taxation we should operate—
efrealgalber-4 am obliged to repeat it—reeogeising that
a great permanent revolution bad occurred in this country
=aftg the tact that unrestricted competition wee
= be the principle of our commercial system,
sad the easy of our social life—wishing to assimilate our
financial and commercial system—presuming that we should
obtain this amount et direct taxation to rest upon—we ulti-
mately decided that it would be the wisest course to coo-
MOOD by acting upon those articles which entered most
late the consumption of the people for their salutary ad-
vantage, and which were subjected to the largest imposts.
Now, that is the real history of this matter. Well, sir,
under them circumstances, we were induced to recommend
to the house the proposition that we have made with
respect to the tea duty and the malt duty. At this
late hour I will endeavour to be exceedingly eueeinet. and I
will not touch on the subject of tea. I think the house and
the country recognise the wisdom of the course which we
have taken on that subject. (" Hear, beer," and cheers.)
I will cot enter into any elaborate argumentation with
regard to the effect of the reduction of the malt duty. I
am told that if you reduce the tax to the consumer—and
only as • tax to the consumer, in perfect harmony with all
thine principles which we have laid down on the subject of
tweea de we consider it—l am told that if you relieve
the consumer upon one article to the amount of two-and-s-
-hall millions, you do not effect any reduction is the price of
the ankle. (Rear, hear.) All son, it is saidAto the
brewer. Well, sir, I remember that when we used to &s-
-em the abet of taxation upon another article, similar ob-
servable were made; I don't ore to remember from
visa porter they emanated now ; but the object of those
ri=was exactly the same, although they related to
wake (Hear, hear.) Then it was those vii-
Wass halls.' (Cheer and laughter from the ministerial-
feu.) Teo ads% rodeo the price of corn, you might ruin
the maser, gentleman and the farmer, but the consumer
wadi sot gain anythiag. (Laughter.)• The bakers or the
MOM would take it all. (Much 'gingham.) The millers
were the wont; they were demons, far worth than those
villeins the bakers. (Renewed laughter.) Thee arguments
had at the time considerable effect. There was such
a prejudice created by them against the bakers
that I should net have been at all surprised if they had
been all Imaged co the same day, as the token of Coestes-
tinople were. Bosh views prevailed for • long time. It
was shown that a OM of 10s. • quarter would not affect the
pros of bread. It was mid that though bakers were not,
like brewers, great capitalists, yet there was • sort of truce-
sorter, a fratemity, amongst them, which made it totally
impossible in any way to obtain a cheap loaf. Yet such are
the vicissitudes of political life, that we now bear the same
arguments from those who once wanted to buy in the
cheapest market and to sell in the d melee (Great
ministerial cheep.) The great advocates of the interest of
the consumer, the great opponents of colossal im-
posts, the members of the imports' committee—hers
we And these all tingled in favour of high taxation,
in favour of the produeen—(Cheers and laughter)—and we
may now taunt them with suing all the fallacies which we at
least, have bid the courage honourably to give tip. (Loud
chain and laughter from both sides of the house.) Tell me
that proteettion is dead—tell me that there is no protection-
ist party—why it is rampant—(immense laughter)—and
there it alto (pointing to the opposition). (Roars of laugh-
ter.) They have inherited our principles with our politic,'
and, I believe they will be just an unsuoceseful as we were.
(Renewed laughter.) I say that it is for the interest of the
consumer, in complete accordance with the principles which
we have laid down in revising the taxation of
the country, that we alone recommend this
measure ; but I do not say that I think it
oil' not also be for the interest of the cultivator of the soil.
(Ilear, hear) By remitting the duty on tea, I have no
doubt we did greatly promote the welfare of our Indian
commene and of our China trade; but 1 do not bring for-
ward the proposition in the first instance for the sake of the
advantage to the mercantile interest, whetber in India or
China. (Roe, hear.) Let the farmers, let the culti- '
ust
c b ja permitmanufacturer
dinm:fneni advantagei s 'P-
ilif the soil, •
vetoes,
tv
so
ontuthffe awn
legitimatesthoseh
t consequencesfodiousnbeings,lin orwe„?s,
owe i lee r s
the ar
of reducing the price of tea as well, as the poorm t cottager •
in the county of Buckingham. (C heers .) What I said was,dest
with the interests of the consumer, take that as your prin..' ••
eiple, and indirectly it will operate the greatest advantages
to the great productive and the great fiscal inter. eta of the `
*matey. (Cheers.) Well then, sir, lam told that by par-
Catty repealing the malt tax, notwitheteadeg the asoi '
amount at which In my manatee Ilells tlat the li_
of the country, lea shaking to Its Aerie. OR
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Englead. The agile of hell) —es this farthisg.
aa4 in the prise elf the We Male* haw ! enal
cheers.) 1t.,., shall I heist the ink of that weird
the right he. nothowas the member fee the University of
Cambridge (Mr. Goolleara)—(rean a laughter)—when he
gave as last selmas warsing.letheittitialthny eircammasess
cos justify psesnel wads alba Ws& Pablie credit, he
eats is en dasgm, arak sir, Ido mot think public credit
is is datia. (lliehlabsi shears.) 1 think tablic credit
sea sever ea a better poshism ; nut do 1 roaraber say
period in the history el the country whoa the romarese of
the is try were daily so visibly Me-missies as they are at
the pelmet cement. (Cheers from both sides) I will not
now ester ism the gaieties whether this is the elect of
gold, or the repeal of the sees laws. or emigration. or say-
thin elm. Though, by the bye, os the subject of 'aigre-
ttes I should like is notice smastling is the speech,
which I have sighed is mach already, of the boa.
member for Kiddereniaster (Mr. Lowe.) I do aot
know, I say, what the sues is. My liminess
to Mt is to answer, es the pert of the sacrament, the
attacks which lime ent made as their proposals. I do
not want to eater into on sapoistion of any kind
Bet I consider the hoe. and leaned ,raiser foe Kiader-
mustier to be is heretical ea the subject of straiseatioa es he
is on the brewing and ash questions. I have great respect
for him, bet all the opinions I have bawd from ham me
peer to me to 1.0 gait* assoithil. (A laugh.) In the first
oleos, on the subject of entigratios, ha confounds two
things, between which I showed the distinction the other
night. As regards its elms is Beglead, 1 will read the
letter of en animal actuary sad high statiAteal
*limit), who a wall know. to 11110 hos. member
tor Mostrese. This writer says, " The rate of
births and marriages has lately Mamma is this country,
and 1 think it possible that emmrstion may accelerate ulti-
mately rather dies retard the tocressit of population at
home-7' frau.* of producing power we have in this
emotes." (Great laughter) Now this is meetly the point
to which I wish is call the eternities of the hos. and learned
archer fee Kidderminster, who has spent so neck of his
life in a thalami colony, that he has no sufficient ides of oar
KIWI! of redeem( power. (Cuntiosed laughter.) The
writer from shoat I cisme says " The reserve of produe.
big power we passes may be inferred trust the fact that
now, to • vouth eastern county, the tenses shows that to
100 married wend' of from 2i) to 46 years of age, there ere
70 women of the mime ages unmarried, and of whom only
7 beer ehildres msteritlestandieg." (Contismed laughter)
I have • conlidesee in this reser.* of redo/sag power,
the Wt. sad Monied gentleman with his cuissial ex-
pense.. his sot given this eimatry fell credit for. My °M-
aio" with respect to our surplus is, that eyes under
the arrangements I have recanintraded, it will be very cos-
Likeable in 1861 sad 1861. But I look to other
I look re retachment is our magic espead==
O m re
I will, it permitted, delay • moment oa that point.
believe that safe netrenchimeat eau only be elected
by looking to the efficaracy of ear ostablishana,
and trusting to mamas se its natural results, his 1 do net
**met that them results ma he *rived at until 1864.5.
One Wog Is quite clear, sad that is, that we cam
sot embark is these usiertakinp salsas we have the
support of the House of Comatose. (Hear, hear)
My owa °paha te, that it is sot wise to grapple with these
tercet departatests of public expeaditure by esessittas.
( flea, bar.) I ea of opinion that we ant nest thus
by communise, the sun a was breaght a bar la
the ease of the reams*. Bet, altheeph sea map have the
royal amnia fee a eammilmies. still it is Malleme=
gratisahead es brava before the Eisen of
and shoal& amnia its moral saaetion. goat waillanakiass
es
I have alleasil or the Ina diilladt a nanistry ne-
n& in oars yea have the wows sad parlamenti whit you,
when tunas ie mare. (liar, boor.) Wells elan lan
told that I her. set awed my sashes he UM-A
I tell you Ihe other reasseess thisthem View* new
uosal, std I believe it will be the fault of as liens of
Cosmos' if, in '.14-46 yes des's led the yobbo servile
amen diciest than it is sad late mostly. I think I have now
touched no wady awry okhaisa of ),perms whin has
boss urged %shaft the prison propesitima. I has
avoided Waft late the assaise a a the mastitutiesality
of oar mama sonsalite the imam tn. All that ran be
aid on this sanest Ms ben sad. and the lettilatei• oppor-
timity will ernes he Owing the awn of all
parties bear the hew. I hare avoided many moor
res. we Inv, I mopped to amnions the arringsaat
the lienesn' oshodas, hoses it it beast a jest arrange-
Mat, Ist it be seams sad it way be shred. I shall be
m a
bare theanimaanimathe ason which
Coallid le layalland to a give it its preen& how ad as oar oa/y
Ina sot teat ea dime shemn the pee-
vil s{ egpime ear aide elasenesseset. (Hear,
beer.) 1 1101•111/ lees • dissesisa ea the hop duty I
mow of a yeeleassal ante la mash @peahen of ash
eisimemew lave tan part, tam I bops that M 1 avoid this
and Was similar espies, the assaktee will cos-
sada that I des n rather in dellanes to its
ppastmwsmeeee them &ea say wish to avoid the '
diosomsn I awe had NM advise is the amass et this
dolma I.
have ben Mid to windrow any haapa—aid
that Mr. Pinned's, his beast; sad I haw rate eases
have wiadeassa "Ws Won (A laugh.) I a net antes
a the fens at la. Mt bet I will ma ashen to the do-
Sam (Load nialasalal ,been.) No. : •
base sa n
seen as anenessees al a epeeement boas midge '
to pre Ile asnsans—esseseponee ea lessamehle to the
romemanmall. amt whamegoan to the ammeay. ea ay
ninon esesievivo the apeman if this heasejimbish
nest door la no. I lees.a balsa anima
nod ye-withdraws, sad wMmmnw. aria la the par 1818.
(Lwasiter.) What woo this thinwesinnso d • soma-
neat sashes ea embalm / What ass the ansainess
ea the imam of the mann I Why. an Ismail awn
alas neposent the enuntesima d the wales Gad
boas dant width wow I as obliged to Mann a natas.
(Chan aid laastam.) Sir, the oeusquessos ore he aim
that mare nap semadaratiews. When panes an
Wasted, what a saormasat mama pre he non
sank as VOW primaries a poblis la. the
ma implant
_dogma a Patties. airlisaid
pony atesiloas. Look at this gamin of fans tansiipa
—the asst implant_ gaieties of the day, whisk and
snare a tae peen INN me all—sad I ate at this assmost
as Mae 'lna* one, se far a that quotas Is sow
am& erapnales with ay policy. (Chests.))Hate er.
durst %seen. *batik s=B" ws".4 vlsil "In
ease g
. and with prudes., party amnia. -
sassed drew) Talk of admieltrative ran. I—of
imam anuenins imaildas lase air &shwa I—if I
wive—eilish wa est be ebegrher lesposibis—if 1 wore
by bane labouy r to bring heatard a seas by whisk stil-
ling alOt be saved to the assatry. admaidiativs reform I
wadi fta beano a Tasty amass toneesew.
sod swats& sheories ham am eaaisaideilla.
ham what I bawd hoe l-v(asea ebamdhtg3 I ben to
ha • wislitisa (11410entalaroink) Theastaballisa eat
be sescastid. A nealliwalan balm= baredl sawansi ;
Mt salinan thee. they map be smossatd. ban dans
faad that their eiambe bags berm but hdot (Cheering
nom) This I knew. ties assioad dam net ben eselleine.
(Choosy Ind I sprat how da natien to dise p.llk
opiates wash somas she seitaip—r Oh). that palls
attain when wha mai insietablenamee as swami
eves the doom 41 sod althea whose seppost
sae the met isdaselon hsaltaiime see tat as the
Menaieria theales hien a.) ,Wu (Lead sad Mai an
itat
Mr. OLABOTOWZ the, sae, let sea sameind with
seas alga alesoneiss from the appeillsa lode.. He
Wee MOON a aimpitie is the ,Nestles of the lease at
that isle bear, bat the !push they had jest hard
to nest with soma mat, sad that an the seemilea ;
Oral (aid the doltiboa. soationsa) by tabs
Hhissesrse ia Bitteer that I ped=est
some asneals tbs beaky ~me he have kis
or sot. is War to Masa bin that than Sr. sons
whisk he was ya Yam (Oggsdas shock sad=
of " " Assn the alba sae) i sad that then are saw
runs' boas those of Waft, sad Istrigiasy why be
noon bass aparmi as as illensmius tattizar gab.
yeast saloseirs. fines the
sm•ohmsailbeas the ) And I 'dills olhala
salaams asse.thee et Mega se be bee wad
—(a pewortal anon of dance Ana tress the book
anistotal herib., emstnesil by Ana mealy load hue
the Manna the sealase)—as
be bas • eireseles st boaassabb aria
—Owe yarns be his eppllai—e ab.
eh." fordat." sad )—es ass whose paths mar—
[the amain wee hen sat ant by poems ?ad
hen the sae *lkea! Ikea arise et " sake,' As
has the Whir} My wish is to hespanolf—tbewi lie
M 1 soul as bast those pima applied to boa sena.
Sala sail mei allsotabar rennall—ny wish is to kap
7:epalifie=wllllMailtebswailsat ardor ea&
• eb," and nos of os,
yea bear trim mte on syllable trospessis looped
that you will have the khan= to caress me. (Haat
obsess.) Hat 1 want ow to these goathrea—ase 111,
Few party swabe ilea whoa I have saw meant
asythiag set seensay sad holisseseso—bat a ane sew
dean whe, is roma assess of the hoeme—{heaejwuat
—esean
iliserama at the deshasso is whin they are
insevia-1 wend ess te awn that *twn beer es
hea ibele Chsaadler is os toss la
lie nansets apes eases. beriblilltige ha el the spines
of es sonaitess, eel teal by thew ha el &swam nil
wrist, to whisk we all as eaesabia (Chens.) We an
sawalossal are Os Okla es as we mahaleas et the
seems" b
wmay phetwaciri
beasetty sire
iis Vaal, Mai
wariterity itM le by Ha allseide e
away bola by am at lhe iYsss
(Seer. bean reply ayeshallena sal wait
meletafhimyeshelesslslNMd banjo oda Warm
ma a a blob Nehlaa sad se bleb sbaniter
this Ism no Wang. (Mesh obeesioll) I awl
all bin yes he is set Man is no, is
esty elishi boa hind the samba he Oman that be re.
bat ass sot ranee him. (Chem mad saator
ihrea.) bad I rest top the tight bow. entleart that
=she he any IMMO Herat he bat me antis keep
am el iharrisa. el redevelles. at ter
bream vet aught la restria the mina ad
hepreps
titherbet a this
she et " hatlugg=rsbrealliPet
wartal, le le la Wier ibe merser mow as b
is More et towhee we*, vbetearalrot by the rear
of the Sow et Osaiersa (A err of erre messial the
earladea et this rassask SMIPOINSI is WIN hen the
,Messily heaths& wit Sawa " sh.") His yam* ea
Ible seer piked sftrt, I whk is sall the stiontisa
attbararillee tie rim balm us, mai to emery as 1
wera Ler gair et as position la
we elm& We .s, r I rearrad, ailed
am% vile bealblit se the ant et the atria of rosolaissis
Oil Ire ayep yew kw& New, ano
malaimill two kailisi pospasitian
Wiribrislyer saw made le se nein the possum stabs
as
law. am et
her
the err at ea here ra
of
herr et the *is itletajz
&Wilbe eel, et th, brae Or le NI

he. Um raid te-sigle, sad swirled, doing the ishaes,
that U boa. memberswoala but vete he tisabilpire
haw tax ea this otemion, they would be free se
hem, to modify, se to alter that vets at say foam say of
the measam. But it is most important we *add dew Is
what seam that is true. We have, I appeeheadomlnuadel
liberty of action I. all the stages of the hilL The hems ef
the home have provided • vast scabs, of stages to every
measure, that siemben may ham the apperteeity of re-
eassideruag their judgeseat ; gad, KtNttatskilee be ems
' passed, it will be opea for soy .caber to vete Molter, ea
the hill, that the retool th• bows tax be Is. hi. ; NA, epda,
co the repel that it be la. Bebesquestly is the oseeds-
' tee on the bill that it be ay 6d., sal cm the Wed madam
that it ho abolished altogether. Yea may do that Is the
some way that yea ell e pesos say saber lailasaielrat
care.. (Cheers and • laugh.) la buy reseeding la
which duo house brimmed, that is the pewee meted of
, per ilsease. (Hear, hoer.) had I amid have you re-
' eolleet ales that you an oat Iwod ben is • mere head
premelim. There is a tad • seam Ia the re-
mamma We may meow he se Merin a tax
meet disthefast Wenn twa a eremites alas
whole merely fee die purpose of heehaw •
frail mashes @the home to the iatwdMMsa at sash
seeseare, bat to mime a searching and ha dheenies
sake that all the euthoeity may be gime to
ear ilsolisas that belay obegielma of the
Hams of hemeacies. (Hear, hear.) NA sew we
hear the eight. bra. pailegiaa gashing is la-
of essedemmisa of Wee of his pre.
dwwean who have withdraw. their budgets. He
le well reed is Me seem of Mr. Pitt is this
resent. Hs remembiem want was does by my right M.
freed (Sir C. Wood) ia 11l ; bas is his reseasetlas
geed as to the *vest/ dials easales heer-ligkilaese
le remember that this m had mhos has It &dared the
owe of the gareameat that this tamers at the
tax was the pried* of the vote that was to he takes, easy
that h. that vete the t woald gaged or ;
sad hea we have it deelmad by the right Mn patlemse
the Home Secretary the they are willing to inseie M on
umedaseet to intredese late the inatlea hat win
would defeat its priiitt lad this abeades phe if
the government alt . W. sod Isiespzilre•
lam (Mr. Waite:ids bad semeamated he ea
their vtUaee bat lee thee& there arm was ea media
whoa that vigihme was mei seemary. He (Mr. Mad-
ame) had set allowed the immelel trolley of the right
hes. gamlemea the ameba he Halifax la all par-
anoias ; be hal opposed his
_is Jae* last year
la .am
la Me preen' ClieNeßor et the Exchequer,
but that was fa taped se • poseellig est bait KO exert-
datable as Mis. BM the magma of that right hos. gen-
tleman (Be C. Weed), whether eiheased or withdrawn,
were Mewed is withdraws, as the use might be, is •
maser the meet *oak sad the meet straightforined, ad
free from ell layisies it Oasis/ motives. (Hear, haat.)
Hs (Mr. 0.) maned he somiatioa is the ob:irmaa's
head., whaler It wets as a vote ea the beam
tax eat ahe beilphow_disei He Meese& it as • new
sties we the Wee be was by se wens
pared to maser with hem w had espremsd tbmsiva
safrimdly to the pried.'" of exterdieg the home tax.
He mum wear We wine he was eatable of the dead-
=ifilasibssaidiat ken of Wailes, he did met
the bey Mat might be placed oa a wider begs,
sad Meow • /teat weeniest arm of au WI
newesese. (Ease bear.) There wen, however, may
dldisaMla stegeheg the hew to whisk hod bees
emeadoed, sr, if aot overlooked, dodged wrongly I. the
peopelliee Mhe goverameaL For 11511111*. why the area
of
UMW sheald -be Mukha te or biped lOL thly lead
had as junikatica hose the goverameat. Thee as ease-
ties washer it meld be wise to geadaats the teem of duty
is diligent dome of hews didl on appear ft We Mee
lesegat mar tbsie melee. (Wer, bear.) Tbe sem
Mem amid remember that le every previous bow he
▪ sad la that of the wham duty act, this priaaple of
gredmelea had bees erlespieleded ; sad he vies eft
prepared te ge late a which totally dieregooded
the prised*, if West taz acts is • nonage most
iseganaisat and lempasat. witkoet
ed wee having wee
names why this Weft» from preach made.
Apia. here was She Met impertaat enemies with refer-
*am Mao in
of Wm sal austime se Mbar of the
aseliepolls end he pmehese. rah mope* le MIMI. It
woo to samba Oh ph of the ~ell Ser
measieg the house Is. MOM Meg e. .4 that the
whole miter et rat*/ requited to be put emir spiel se-
ponies.. if they wen ghee le resort to the bow ten es •
great same la ear ilaseaM system.
_Meer, bier)
Than was atilale UM pen law la Se Meuse taa
whisk had dimly begammendeZtbe right hem mew
bwr Peetmeela to be j_S.d
hare the mmeolamo oweeled to doable the Deem W.
He named ft he bet hat M PM Mrs paged the mew
slea gibe ahem= i Ms meeley Weald be messed at
Sti. • pee same seamy ebegiseper is Liaise
woeM be pet Woe at UK Mar, km) Why bed OM
set beim osploked The MAW beneusabie sesames the
Chasten ea the liwilefesse ease • Maillinaties ef may
meatbesiesposed what he seedliondeEred to him
he Weseable whew might es lerea bah
het gme be man hie (Hale beer.)
guestim it peat impanomee was to Wig
whetter/ the tag, la the ease of leases of sail .seta,
should be paid by the Wessel or the team; bat he
apt bremliCesa bad said maim apes say of Wee
Mpg dld metappear ever to have pond tamsegh
W Wed, be had spina upwards of
es • ilemer semise, omy as eight be had •ddimeed the
committee for apogee& of We been. (Rear.) The
right brim geollome heal ilhe he deal with the Wails
of ea Isleb gam hot be 4111 met for is. want
attempt le Wens to the esemalles the mem why he
had peemil_ae every sae et We peat qameloom (Hear.)
New be MI the right boa. goodemin that he maid an
=Li=e upon the Mese too Wow for the ea say
.spa he sew all those wholi be
bed le=limmtsagebedst spa folly gemidered anti Whim
melee at epee hem (Wee hear.) OA
bee. pallemea gems snow has If he impademl ble
somairbet mw Wed dna eves
6M's** peeped WM the Mum tax. He could
hardy the eWneamos OM would Mime him
to meat r • assmuld Mew, while latiediesellato eke
taaatha d M. waft toe new SIMIi het wee so
adroitly maned. that both of am WM galas peolooly
the same daft. (Hem hem) no me earn Mena
trees SOL to • per_ . we the very ma who
lisZta a Imes treat NIL ft WA. • per. (Hear, her.)
Now the Ogle hon. pellema bed shied the right boa.
gentlemen the meMist ass Oa lageaMs gushiest Mho poor
elide mi as he MOM
weil hin.:was food of imasees.
he lthe he d Ibetge his. to see or two. He
Mew he Mae bea. pima hem • wear stem-
pesky her the per elms, he Wee emeW dm for
whoa he was we he apt bem_geeilknme pmt as
ism* if met grease opmgetky. We mated to bare hew
he Woad Memo wee to bear apse M. = la
was the
egematise of he owe hal (Roo; krt. That a
dm wide had the right his. pathmea's Mem
la thess days whim he was meeelemed to make imam is
Mee bum ea the sateen at opiselleml algae
(Ohms.) TM right hos. sablema web what In
Iseresn: tell them hat a wield be • pea Waft IC
la the sprightliest Weft, they I~ealp to the
great • Mw 111111 ho right bee. told
Wm • Imp dish soma. mommt }hem wee. to
be hand W mon Mamba -paha of
the
the whet pregelneee et hogareh that
We. erbie eseined ems
she
tezromenserusers
the ape eel isedeniaas el ear Samoa
heir) Wad, hew 1M the eget pedsemm
to deal walk them The Imm o homy eseepisne=
was like SOL • Fele, that wse ea sass amea ease,
gal M relied la • Wee at IV. • year. At pre-
NM he pepe me been tot air hems tax. Has bean his
Meads bete eme iste elloe—win a meant of malte-
ds. that nom haw We to him! as has beeadlese me-
adows la the theft of the Choosier of the ambequer.
let he.. demos eremite that
LeCilepri Deet
lleisseee) wi heed at all to *pasties thel:7Bt his,
patlemeds bemuse he wee happy to say M siameely re-
==bitizerig
aus= sem had bees say pommel
him sad the =ghee. made.
MA, 11•1 be .am be fully te
maven Me *Meet, perhaps the sommittee
would sum he mid that he scald beer as meek
teelle=se limgeeles of the et bee. geatleme as the
lb
Mee& Phan.) Bat Ise was de.
lashalllug Maw ef las pompom. sad it was jun
blew be bed Mewed
Word Meat bea geedensa with seek
vast admeshm that pleteme wadi be the Ems
binge Cline bear.) He Mom the daft it dr
be..issagnis wag, he kame some—be knew tag
hemmer eel strom of he ksad et the n
Mews mid tholes Weds Mesh mem do sa
et they meld irkehrhim, yetis say rats they Mlle=
am agog. Me bee gime op pommies, be he Wm
Wed 'empennage, but way he it aot to be weeeded by
Ode beaL AM yet be was sew to be mhos with tee
teem of Mesa IMF mene be bad hams weialm. (Hear,
beer.) rpm aie SOL natal a his hat be wee
is be stemped rd. is he peaty, se W. Se. hi. ;
and he meld have te eastribuie to the temum some
lte is the shape 51 bow sm. Mae, km.) Therefore
Mount
peerless mead be gelid 'me seasepoess of the
advent of Mee Ohmesam he Whew to power to
Lay I...ttLer seat eat of Me ppm home ft he &Mimi
, sad la reams be our to maim &thief saving
Int take wean rats. Take the
m•
eet he kwi. l deemmes, wee bed to pa 7 se I:Ti4
he Mme
la of Mel Imam ; what was th
, ea he mein to Aloe if ten proms immures ? Who
bed bele the groat Wm of all ftleael ea to= et
Joni mastioa (Hem bear.) why. the
the latihresie gad lion=delles the pee Meow
'sea of our that all rbe ode of
wegYMeg WNW. WI bad We se loag th=
be the blithe, ups Ihmeatelerskril :rile as-
Wpm theowlag over big s.l the whole question
el Mal Weeks la on slops lets a bieuessime
'
shy. (Obeers.)
to la pies et the relief that he had hese
Metel be was
_pay ow Mew tea af IL Ills., sad •
of 44. or 4 pm not spa Wwhen la-
cow. (Hear, hear.) 'He would pan sow te masher put
of the budget mad some Is the wed= of the
malt
he
_peeped to wag `alf of whisk'
penibly onset le. (am, We.) let
that wes set • reams "Me Amid leihnees hs Memo
, of Commas. If thy bad • Mika WI a her le Owe of
of
wh mum seasider he beet maser is isk to &pose
: it. gem leek MO atieniten at the ogielleg deem sad
Asap oboe MIK hey maid
M ftra irerimerisw. Meade mei
Weeme end by Mat Me We Weld hey be
Tr▪
ek
Ilea le he mount pepodise that. appeared to
alas,` len last as mak an—ablek meld be se
othelhee- Mil • meek of meh
gemilui so qpisimml moos. 'Ace apt ham,