The Express.
London, England, 1863-09-28 00:00:00

[Stamped, Id. Additional.)

be allowed, without interformen to throw off their
governmente—most of them corrupt and gilt —(cheers)—
and to attempt freedom and unity for themselves; or
whether Metre, or Frame, or any other power, should
interfere sad turn aside the destiny to which Italy was
aspiring. The government of Lord Palmerston did not
hesitate for • moment to my that the people of Italy ought
to choose for themselves their form of government ; sod the
capacity th.,:fielitad allows, and the courage they had shown, It
was our that they went fit to take their place
moor the great nations of the world. (Loud cheers.)
Gentlemen, it so happens that I expressed that opinion
as as orpo of Lad Talmerstires government in one of
your own Eloottith rites—the city of Aberdeen—end I
found, I mast say, that the whole oouutry responded
to the opinion I then gave, and, supported by that
public opinion, the voice of England was powerful in pre-
venting say etenentiou without the wishes of the Italians.
I well remember there occurred that which is sego now giv-
ing us painful mess, I mean the civil war which has taken
place is Polaed. For my owe part, lam reedy to ddead, if
seed shall be, the course whisk her Majesty's government,
is coejunctiou with France and Austria, have taken on that
question • but I have stated in my place in melanoma,
sod I gold the °rem still, that "either the obligating
of Ragland as the interest of England require that
we should go to war for Poland. (Chain.) Holding
that opiates, I thick it unbecoming of as to mil at
Muria. when we am not prepared forcibly to resist her
aggression However, I most say that it am ounded me that
at the end of snail smiths of oorreepoodeoce Russia hes
broken the We the has dos. The portiuon of Pohlad was ea
meat which was the scandal of Europe in the last century—.
leitiers)—which is the reproach of the three Amen who
were puska to it. Bet lathe treaty et Veen. it we. thought
At—And siesiamemand oxpediegicy perhaps justified what
win done—it was thought fit to admit, as it were, into the
law of odious the state at Poked as divided between these
row/19,68d to give a kind of retrospective sinotion se it
wan *etherealises of Poked. The Powers of Ferree be-
came, to me • legal pluses, accessory after the fad. Metre
mid Prussia seeptied with the "seditious of that treaty.
Ramie hie not complied. It assets tone that vasseed of
great is rndieee in Russia when she had the great ad-
notes, to have the act of spoliation and partition condoled
as Ii were by Kerma, to nejed the tam= which that sem-
Om was give., to rest it as she now rests it as the title of
unkind partition on the title of conquest. and reflecting all '
those condilites by which by the treaty of Vilna that title
was emit waremeepted in Zoom. What may be the mese
=of that act. what conduct the different powers of
may fellow, are not questions on which I can properly i
enter. I merely wish you to rework the feet that those con-
ditions which are oontaised in the treaty of Vieum, by
whisk Russia obtained the kingdom of Poland, bays not been
coppliel with ; end with the eceditices of the Mean
betoken, the title Mead ma Medi, be somplied with.
(Cliesce.) There is another question concerning our forage
relations on which • good deal of misappreheasion has very
likely prevailed ; I mesa the gnestisee ed Merest It is said
the, there has boon intensities in Mexico, and that we
toed part in that intervention in Mexico. Now, that word
isteremtion is ace unfrigesetly applied with • pm* de-
gree of looseness and eiefusioe to very different kinds
of reemedings. There is an intervention certainly when the
subjects of • power are wronged, and that power seeks re-
dime for those subjects when their property has been us.
timely taken or when the persone of tam subjects have
ben iejured i ; bat thatintervention is gtite justifieble
mkt kiespeneably neesseary. (Chew.) But there I.
another kind of intervectina menet which I hays often
paoteited, and which I think is, very rarely indeed to be
Petalled, ad which emerally Gods its coodcronatime in the
COMVISOION which flow from it—l mean Mierventioe ill ,
the littered affairs of mother nation to dictate what
=cd geeenituest it, ehrdi adopt an who shall he its
la the former hied of letervintioa we halm taken
pet; be thunedithely the latter kind was adopted by one
of the powers concerned in these hostilities
is Mexico we at '
ease parted company with our allieicand have stem taken no
port in the Wain of Mexico. (Hear, bear.) Seek is nor
setedieles M the resnot me=et. If the people./ Mesier
approve of the intervention that has taken plan if they 1
4sureset spa moarisehy, if they like to obey, if they are
to sash pees and prospenty in Mexico on those
etooms, I tar with all my heart let them do it.
(Mount) Miry have adopted it, then I must say it is so'
Waimea of oars to ocetrodict them. Bat the people of
Meese tetra inertial their firm of gomenmeat
by. bet WWI hmenrer the eenetry has been de-
formed sots of robbery and valence, et Ido sot
think we have any right to interfere with their owe
I choke of their own form of goverment. Well, gentle..
1 . , I come now to another question—a gaieties
M es ell—, quieten to white I beg year
I with to saphito mine ciromastagoes in
I think thunder et this come, km been
selipied—l am speaking of what occurred le What • few
yin ago were the Limited States of America. A few years
[ Irwe more eruisieg is the prosperity of that eseetry.
e wire happy to use the people, derived from the same
1 4zlncee as ourselves, enjoying free institutions, enjoying
t hannoey use with soother and with whom welted •
—et least just before the civil war broke out—hardly 1 Me-
nem Thom was a Menem about a small Wend Galled fit.
Joan, end which en pesposel to tiler to the arbitrates et
' the Swim Republic. Seek was the state of attain whim
that in whine licourbirly had no part broke out. Nine
of the Southern Whim of Atomics declared that they
mould form so ildemedest Republic. Onr merge ea
that subject has been decked and Mimed sometimes
to the bitterest tams. Banged seesetheas by the F.l
sometimes by the Coefedantea. The first efface wiasett
'by the Federal". They state that we had en right to greet
' —as far se we way cremeraed—te she Osafedemes Sides
the rights el belSgemetn Well, geatlemse, that queen-se of
1 the rights d balligereets is a question of facts, and I pat it to
you whether, with five millions of freemen declaring them-
selves in states. and orillectivedy an iodep ndeat state, we
maid pas it over as • petty rebellion. Oct edierals asked
1 tether the ships they met bearing the Ordained*
should be treated se penises or ad. It we
treated them as pirates we would have been taking
put in that 000 test. (Cheers.) It was impossible,
holder at it es a oommenity of 5,000,000 el people, to
treat it as a mere petty armrest:eon—(hem, hear)--eras not
having rights whisk at all times have lime given to them
who by number. sad importance and the extent of territory
the possessed were entitled to thoserights. Well, it was
sad that we ought nos to have does it because it wee•
immensity of slathholdays. I trust our a.bonsece of
slavery is nut is the lout abated or diminished,
(Cheers.) For my own part, I consider that it is ass of
the most horrible mimes that yet disgraces humanity.
2416 when we are treader of the relation week we tear
to the oommunities of saes I doubt wheelie it weight
be expedient or usual fur kienseity to intredine that
as. element, declaring that we will have no relation with •
people that permits slavery to exist emong them. We have
never adopted that yet—never adopted it with Spas et
Bsesii—iuni I do sot believe the mine of humidly ovoid
be awed by adopting it, (Cheers.) Bet then it was mid
the Confederate States were rebels !against the Caton.
Perhaps we are not ei nice as we ought to be on that sub-
ject. But I recollect we rebelled atemst Charlie L, sped
James I 1., and that the people of New Zeeland, not mates*
with these, rebelled spina Osage 111., Ide not my new
whether all them were justifiable or wrong. Ido not say
whether the rebellion of the Southall States is • jus-
tifiable insurrectice, whether it is • great fact, or • peat
crime, bet I state the mere fact that a rebellion is net
in itardt • ensue of se deep a dye as to mum us to
renounce our relations with people guilty of rebellion.
(Chem.) But to look at the orations of the New
England orators, and I have been reading lately, if
not, the whole at lees the greeter part of • Ism
mesa by Mr. Sumner in New York, and I mead, but
warder that this man—the offspring of three, as we are
of two, rebellious—should be speaking like the Czar of
Russia or Louis XIV. of the dreadful guilt of the crime
of rebellion. Thee metes another oneoplaiat, and it
' seem frost the so-called Cedederme Staten It is said
we have, imentary to the dada/alias of Paris, meteary
to internatimal law, permitted the blockade of 3,000 miles
of American coast. It is gone true we did so, and the pee
suniable cause of complaint is quite true, that. although
the blockade is kept up by a selleieut somber of ships, yet
these ships were met loth the United States rim i y s a
hurry, and are ill-fitted for the purpose and
did net, keep up so completely and effectively as
was required in an effective blockade. (Hear, hem)
Still, looking at the law et nations, it was a blinded'
we as a peat helligereat Power, is former time, shield
have aekeowledged. Ws ourselves had • blockade d
upwards of 2,000 wiles, and it did seem to me that we
were bound in justice to the Federal Bides of America to
acknowledge that blockade. But these was soother reams
whieh weighed with me. Our people were suffering severely
for the want of that materiel whisk was the main owl of
their ioduary, aid it me • question of self-uatereat whe-
ther we ahead not break that blockade. But in my Jeanie
the mead England would have hose for ever Maumee if,
for the sake of their own interest, they had violated the law
of Wiens, and made war in ccejunction with these alevebold-
leg seas of America areas the Federal states. 'Cheers.)
las sot speaking muniesets wheals are peculiar to me,
wbe had no interest is the question, but such I believe
to be the seetaneets et that nobletcarteri people of Lanca-
shire who lived sad ilearithed by that industry, bet would
medlar serails spot es their ileartilsoula la -order to the
maideuemes of that industry. Well, gmalenien, we cane
to asw eamplamte on the pert of the Fedends, that we
allayed dupe to leave the port, et Liverpool, while
afterwards euenoit &pedaloes is their onnimerall.
It wield lead tee jr it I were to go into all the
perthelare„ but, yes wee know that in order to
, prom yea require "sidemen such (nide.e as might
be sifted in a coat d juntas, sad it was sot until the day
the mend left that we bad se opulea of lawyen seeming
to stop that vessel, and 1 doubt if eves thee we bed
bomOt it before • seed ed law whether there would have
! ben evidence suificieat to coodems her, became by a
..seism of the law the ship was fitted up without arms or
equipmeet, and that equipuiest was cue voy eal to her in
the writes of a foreign mean, very far from the juris-
aides of this country. GeaUsaiey these goatious most