The Express.
London, England, 1863-06-13 00:00:00

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ply. he should cull the attention of the hors to the air
cumatatiose connected with the recent interruption of the
diplomatic relations brtwren this country and Brazil, and
thst he should mama a motion to the house on the subject.

IRISH DIST'RKSS.
Colonel DrziNE, is rising to bring before the notice of
the house the present depreesed coodition of Ireland, to-
gether with the amount of taxation imposed on that country,
and to move for a select committee to =quire into the cameo
of such depression sod the effects of the taxation she now
bears mid that it was the habit of some writers to ascribe
the distress which was admitted to mist hi Ireland to the
bad harvests of the last two or three years ; but that could
not be the true explanation, because if he went back for
62
years, to the period of the uoion, be found that Ireland had
not attaieed that prosperity which it was said she would
attain from her cootie:Joe with this wealthy country. He
did sot object to the union ; be had no wild notions of an
szrarian law; he was for the closest connection
with England ; but that connexion should not be
based on the inferiority of one country, but on the mutual
interests of both.
Colonel FRENCH seconded the motion.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER admitted
the gravity of the ease and the actuality of the facts, but
he controverted she argument which was founded on the un-
due taxation of Ireland. In reference to the alleged evil of
absenteeism he did not see how parliament could deal with
it, except by studying to give to Ireland all the advantages,
social and economic, which were possessed by the
other parts of the kingdom. He demurred to the
argument which had been advanced, to the effect
that there should be an expenditure of public MODS,
in Ireland equivaleot to the amount of her.
contribution to the general taxation an this would at once
strike at the very principle of general taxation. Although
be believed that the depressed condition of Ireland was
temporary, and owing to the vicissitudes of the heavens,
he did not deny the right to bring before parliament her
financial relations with the rest of the community ; and,
in considering that question, he would assert that Indeed
had her fair Aare of the benefit of public expenditure. AA
regarded taxation, he argued from statistics that Ireland
did not more than her due proportion. Is declining to
accede to the motion for a select committee, he must aot be
thought insensible to the evils existing as, he treated, the
temporarily demeaned condition of Ireland.
TOO motion was supported by Mr. Longfield, Mr. Gregory,
and Sir P. O'Brien.
Mr. COGAN, in demanding more justice to Ireland, and
by no means asking for eleemosynary aid for her, took oc-
casion to make some severe remarks on Sir It. Peers having
taken part • day or two since at a proeelytlsing meeting for
West Connaught.
Sir It. PEEL explained that he was present at the meet-
ing only as a hearer, and should have taken no part in it
but for having been pressed to do so by the chairman. He
argued that the Aintree' of Indeed was over-rated and
temporary in its character ; and he showed that there bad
been a remarkable decrease of crime in that country, and
this was a good gigs, as mime was mainly attendant on
poverty._
Mr. WHITESIDE urged that the motion did not demand
inequality of taxation in favour of Ireland, but ea inquiry
into the meditiou of that country with • view to a redly
equal apportionment of fiscal burdens. He co,nplaioed
that no suggestion had been made by the government in
reference to the admitted facts which had been elicited by
the motion, or any hope held out of any attempt at reme-
dying the acknowledged depression of Ireland, and there-
fore he maintained that a case was made out for the Inquiry
which was asked.
Mr. WAOIHEI and Mr. WHALLEY supported the motion.
Lord NAAS was of opinion that the motion as it was
now constituted for inquiry into two matters would be
productive of no advantage ; and, although he would sup-
port inquiry in • different form, he would vote against this.
After • few words from Mr. R. P. DAMON, protesting
against. the introduction of the religious element into the
deminsion,
The motion was negatived.
THE CHARGES AGAINST COLONEL CRAWLEY.
Mr. CONLIGHAM was about, pennant to notice, to
call attention to the memorandum of the Commander-in-
Chief in the ease of Sergennt-Major Jim. May, when
Lord PALMERSTON nee and said -I have to make an
appeal to my hoe. friend. I understand that be bag'
given notice of his intention to call attention to the circum-
stances connected with the transaction which was the subject
of a discussion the other evening, in which Col. Crawley
was concerned. My noble friend in the course of his state-
ment the other night said there DM circumstemoss still
under consideration connected with Cola Crawhm's conduct
which might lead to subsequent measures. The Commander-
in-Chief has determined that there are circumstance con
nected with the case which will jostßy and require that the
conduct of Colonel Crawley shall be submitted to a court
martial. (Cheers.) That being the case, and judicial pro-
ceedings being determined upon, I would submit to my hon.
ft iend whether it might not be better that no discussion
should take place upon the 'abject, which, by elicitieg
°Milieus favourable or adverse, might in some degree in-
fluence the court of Patios in egard to the case.
Mr. CONINGHAM said be should have no hesitation fa
, responding to the appeal did not the gumtree involve the
much greater issue of the trial of paymaster Senates, and
having only that day permed the documents connected with
the court-martial in that cue, he was unwilling, as the noble
toed had said, be could not give them • victim
that be should not give them • some-goat. (Hear,
bear.) It wan not merely Colonel Crawley who was coot-
ie these transactions, but two officers in
rediair, vda
eommaader-in-chief in great
the com-
mander-in-chief of the British army, and the autho-
rities of ' the Horse Guards. (Hear, bear.) Was
it not monstrous that because the paymaster of the 6th
Dragoon wrote what was characterieed as an insubordinate
letter instead of • proper investigation being made as
to the facts, Colonel Crawley immediately brought him to
• court-martial, and impounded the witnesses who were
reedy to establish his caw!
General PEEL rose to order. The hoe. member having
'Oren notice to call attention to the case of Sergeant-Major
LEI, it was not competent for him to eater into the parti-
culars of a court-martial in soother case with reference to
which be had given no notice.
Sir P. CYBRIEN said he thought the boo. gentleman
wan not nut of order, but the real question was, whether
Sit Hugh Rose was to be aupperted by the Ere Guards
or not.
The SPEAKER said he could not support the call of
ceder.
Mr. COM:MOHAN said the interruption of the right
hon, gentleman was coneistent with the whole ceeduct of
the military authorities. It was all for suppression, but as
long as be had the honour of a sent in that home, he would
not allow Ito monstrous an injustice to be perpetrated. In
the name of the non-commissioned officers and the
privates, he demanded that justice be dons, whether
in so doing they condemned puma officiers or
commanders-in-chief. (Cheers sod " 06, oh.") It was
sod that the memorandum of the Commander-in
Chief had been modified ; thereby the Commander-in-
Chief had condemned himself. It was for that reason he
said, Do not give them Colonel Crawley as a somegoat to be
tried in India. It was hers that the investiption ought to
take place. The case ought to be rigidly investigated, and
he summoned his royal highness the Commander-in-Chief
to be tried at the bar of public opinion, not by his equals,
but by those who would not stand by and see injustice
done, even Rit was supported by great names. He would
read an entrant from a letter from Paymaster Smales to
Colonel Crawley, dated the 20th February, 1862 :—" Sir,
—Your recent proceediegs towards me will, I trust, be an
apology for my troubling you with a respectful ninon-
stream, while at the same time I submit to you that my
position has now become one of a painful a character,
owing to the lice of conduct you pursue towards me, that
I feel bound to appeal to the higher authorities."
Colonel NORTH rose to order, and asked if the boa.
gentlemen could refer to the promedinp of a court-martial
which eeembers bad never beard of.
The SPEAKER said he had alreedy stated that the mere
fact of the hon. member sot having included all the
matters collateral to his notice would not make him out of
older. As tar am reprded the rights of the Mame, it was
competent for the bee, member to bring forward this
motion in committee of supply without any notice st all.
General PEEL said, as far as be undentood the question,
it was whether the hon. gentleman had a right to quote from
a document that was not in the possession of the house.
("06," and laughter.)
Mr. CONINGHAM said he would reviled the right he.
member that the minister of the crown was is posesesien
of all the documents, or at least ought to be.
The lion gentleman proceeded to read extracts from the
letter and protest of Capt. fintales, which be contended
proved that the trial of Lient..ooleuel Cowley would not
conduce to the object which the *matey at lame desired so
anxiously, namely, • fall and searching isirestigatioe into
all the circumstances of this most disgraceful busies.
These extracts proved that the statements bad been ex
parte, and unsupported by the evidence of credible witnesses.
He (Mr. Conierhath) maintained that it was competent for
subordinate eerier to makes complaint against a sepesior. offi-
oer. He matured to submit that no trial of Ideut..oolonel
Crawley in India could properly satidy the demand which
they had a right to make. What they waeted was • rigid
and seerchieg examination, from which no delinquent, how-
ever high his birth or distinguished his services, should be
exempted. He begged. therefore, to entreat the noble lord
at, the bead of bee Ma sty's government to enforce the law,
end take ears. that no one isho bad committed wrongshould
be allowed to amps from justice. (Hear.)
The Marquis of HARTINGTON said that although the
Speaker bad deckled that the boa. gentleman ma is order
in the address which he had jest eireelluded. them would be
no difference of opinion se to the good Leto which had
merited the conduct of the hoe. gentleman in making the
observations which be had done epee the notice be had
Owed epee the paper. (Hear, hear.) This notice was the&
he would ell athletics to the anemeranditra of the Cow
en emu tie owe of Seemant-Illajer Ling.{
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