The Express.
London, England, 1855-06-14 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, THURSDAY EVENING, JUNE 14, 1855.

asserting that Sir James Grahame had been guilty of noise
what was sot correct. (Lead laughter and amen.) And
Lord Palmerston treated bin with derlsioc, and mead in-
clined to tramp.. him under foot. He denved some moo-
lotion Peas tin saying of an old British statesman—fir.
'finery, who sew a man beating another when he was on
t;.. emend, and when he remonstrated with him, telliog
him that it was not like an Englishman to act in that way,
the man replied, " If you had had as much trouble is
genius him down as I have, you would not lot him off
without a kick or two." (Gnat lughter and cheep.) Well,
he (Nr. Lewd) was up again--(" hest, hear," sad cheers)
—and when he said that he stood aloes he made a mistake,
for what had happened that evitolue had snows him that
he did not stand alone. (Great cheering.) He was told
that after the landed interest the army interest was the
strongest in the limns of Commons. That was not teas
sad it would have bees soarer the fact if it had been said
that the " Guards" iaterest was strong in the hones.
Then Were, however, few representatives in the House
of Commons of the regimental effigies and soldiers.
TM army was repressand in the Hones of Co..nell. by thou who owed their rise to the very
eruption of which the country complained. he would
deem • way by which at once to put down the greatest evil
*Web existed in the army—the system of purchase. (Hear,
bear.) All the military authorities, including Sir de Laey
lbw, whom be considered the greatest among them—(load
meets)—were opposed to the system of parches*. It was a
apses to the nation and the wonder of foreign nations
OS Mon should make an hocourable profession like of
saddler the subject of purchase a. d isle. Whoa that
any
attempt was made to pat an end to it, Lord Palmenton and
others said it woe true that it was en evil, but then you
must consider the vested iaterests of those who had par
chased commi.siore, sad whom the country could not afford
to pay off. He (hr. Layard) was not desirous that Wieldiest
elwald be done to vested interests, sad we should always be
tinder with vested interests, bat he +said point out a way
by which the purchase system could be done away with
without loss to the bidividuals or the country. In cones- I
gown of the war more than half the commissions which
bad been granted within the last six months had been
granted without purchase. He said it was unjust that a
man who obtained a commission gratis should be allowed to
sell it. Then let it be said that from this day every com-
mission that was given without purchase should continue
to be given without purchase. (Hear, bear.) Let that be
said by that meeting ; their word would go forth to the
army. He had been throe months with the army, not with
the g lor staff, but with the regimental officers, and he
knew their opinion of the system of purchase, and the man-
ner is which rewards were distributed, sad their feeling
was one he would not say of indignation, but of deep de-
Wig. They knew they had no charm of rising, that that
was confined to a few favoured individual.. What wail I
these men think and say of those who sucported this argo-
naut, when they knew that they were 'rucking for Shen,
fee the principle that every deserving man, and be only,
anould be rewarded ? (Hear, hear.) That was a pilot
which might be fairly worked. When the administrative
reform movement commenced, the government leas-
&lately said they also would make reforms. What had
they done ? They had united the ordnance and Um
army under one head, but that was a thing that bad bees
tel of for years. He remembered Lord Penmen*, is
latrodacing that measure and speaking of the appointments
which he was about to make, said that they could emphati-
cony show the " right man in the tight place." Who
were the persons appointed ? These appointments bad
been commented on by the Times and the Daily Naos.
One of the gentlemen was Lord Pumure's own nephew,
whose great practice beamed to be that he had been private
secretary to the minister, and in his plats Captain Ramsay
was placed, and no doubt his position of pri-
vate secretary would be considered a future claim
to the other appointment. They were told that
the bast men were to have the plates, and the
places were given to Ramsays, and Russells, and
Greys, and, therefore, it must be sauteed that they were
the hest men. The process was like those mental pussies
that used to be current in former days, and of which that el
Dr. Johnson was a specimen when he said—

hey entertained doubts of its ultimate success. Of this 1,
they might test a.Hod, .114, the ',mutant such persons
would appear rip the.. list ot the association when this amoci-
ation tied attained, at pluse Gad it would attaio, • her and
flood ram"' of success—(bear, bear); hut he trusted that
when tin day of triumph cam., the public would take rave
that it should he enjoyed by those ono hod really won .c.
(Willem ) This coontry had, as he had before remarked,
begs enjoyed (-emanative peace. During that time they
lad almost been led to believe that war had become imps-
"ibis. A small bat very influential party in this country, in-
decade' from the greet and distinguished tektite of its
leaders, bed end, Renoir I. and not without PIC:VO, is
propmente their pe-culiar npini no in England. He 3.:1:i,e ,
of emirs.. to that party which was vulgarly called the
pease•at-sorprieri party. He believed met the opinions
advocated by those gentlemen were •o-English cod den-
gems. (Court) If saltation' had slumbered ice them-
selves, if the arta of peace aad civilisation had succeeded to
these of war, they might bare gone on attending to their
*WS cowmen.. But, unfortanately, ambition never slum-
bered. (Hear, bear.) There wen those who had been
waiting to see them in a deep slumber, and ready to take
advantage of it. They bad been rudell, awakened from
their dream. Nor, he believed that tivideneo never
sabered great Emery to be inflicted en mankind without a
geodobject, sad setting aside political considerations, one of
the good results of the present war was the commencement
of an association whose foundation they were met together
Oat evening to celebrate. (Hear, bear.) If that won had
sot taken place it would have slumbered too long. Now, he i
did not wish on that occasion to enter into political consi-
derations in coalmines with the war ; rut be would appeal
even to members of the Peace Society whether, as the omen-
try was engaged in a war, it should not be the desire of all
that it might be carried ea in a manner which would be
mat consistent with the honour and dignity of the country,
end which was due to the position which this country held
smug nodose ? (Hew, hear.) Oa that point he thought
they must ell be agreed. Wait, then, bed been the case
with regard to the conduct of this war ? It was sit very
well to throw blame upon systems end to ex-
culpate persons. Th../ were all aware that be
was a member of the Sebastopol committee ; and
is the iomury which woe conducted by that committee
then was hardly a single fault which was not attributed
Illitiser to the system or to poor Mr. Ward, who died many
Meths ago, and whom, therefor*, it was perfectly safe to
blame. He believed, however, that to this system but
)fie of what bad occurred was to be attributed—it was to
be eatrilisted used, to the fact that nearly . inc had
been mismanaged. Tbe indignation of the public at length
eget • form which led to an attempt to remedy the evil.
Tbs, bebastopel committee was appointed. That committee
bad published the evidence in three large blue books,
sad if at some fature period the wont enemy of
Ragland were seeking means to ealumaiate her,
and to show bow hollow her institutions were, he could net
promote his object more effectually than by reproducing
thaw three books—(hear, hear)—records of incompetency,
asemrds of isdideresce to suffering, rut ids of ignorance.
MISR& of obstinancy, which had cast slums upon us and
11.11. oar system. but fortunately they could also point to
*Maces of heroic suffering, endurance, and virtue which
tho world had newer 'goaded. (Cheery.) Amid the suffer-
lags of our army a ray of hope at length appeared. But
whence did it come ? From the midnight lamp of that
heroic woman—(gnat cheering)—oho passed alone down
what bad been well described as " miles of agony," sad from 1
the funds of private benevolence administered by one who
had n seen war or known sickness of such • character
and who was chosen merely fur his intelligence and suitable-
ness for the performiace of the duty entrusted to him.
'Teen all the great appliances of the nation, which had cost
minims of taxation, were found totally unable to meet the
oessaion—(near, hear)—if anything important happened
jsad if anything could give the country a lesson it was this),
gaily improvement bad taken place, it came from private
suggestions, and every substantial alleviating of seffering
bad been the work of private charity. (Hear, hear.) Neese
they to theorised at that state of things, when they had on
record in the examination of the ministers, of Lord Aber-
deen, the Duke of Newcastle, nod of Mr. Sidney Herbert,
that during the two months while the greatest events were
occurring in which the country was ever engaged, and
daring which her honour and dignity were pledged as
they
cosseil was held ? (Hear, hear, and cheers.) Every member
of the cabinet, except one or two, and let justice he done to
them, they were the Peelites, was away &mooing him-
self in the country, and those very men were those who
were now is power. Again during the whole time of the
expedition up to the month of December. the government
had no information whatever, and Lord Aberdeen geld that ; •
the information of the government was derived almost en- I
tirely from the reports is the public papers. (Hear, hear )
Look at the ev.dence of the generals employed with the
army. They hod said that the army was newt to the •
Cries, as regarded appliances and Comforts, i hat '
as the army was sent to 'the Peninsula, and
thus while the public generally had bun Adopting
every modern invention those who were fiestas I
our battles were left in the same condition es the I'
widish of fifty years ago. Lord Harding, took greet credit 4
to himself for introducing the Minis rifle into the army, i
but it had been long adopted in every army in Europe, and 1
• entnufactuttr might just as well at this day take credit to I
himself for introducing steam power into his machinery. ,
Bat, in fact, the soldiers were sent to the Crimea with old I
sass, old tents, old habits, and old manners. Could the I
result be other then that whichi had heppened, andthousends I
of valuable lives had been sacrificed not on the bloody shrine '
of war, but on the shrifts of incompetency, obstinacy,
and neglect. (Hear, hear.) Such bei' g the case, was it
needled to sets it the Administrative Reform Society was I
necessary? Was it sot necessary that the deep-seated
indigsant mutterings of the people should find • voice
That was the object of the society. He was told that the
SU:CUM at the seat of war of which they had lately heard ,
had done away with the objects of the society (Hear, I i
Gear, and "No.") S hue time ago, when intelligence sr-
rived from the Crimes, and it was asked in the House of
Commons to have it communicated, it was said that if such
communications were made the cypher would be-discovered;
but when anything turned up in favour of the
government nothing was said about the cy pber,
and you Mul "Lord Panmore's and Mr. Osborne 's
enaptiments "to the newspapers every hour. (Hear,
bear.) He was not so unpatriotic as to have believed that
we 'build setter have successes; he did not believe from the
beginning that we should have nothing but • series of re-
verses. No; he always believed that we should eventually
be secs-eful. Carry out administrative reform, and Sebes-
topol and a great many other thiess would he ours. But,
potting aside that, did not our successes afford an araument
is favour of the society ? After • lung period of inactivity,
a new and vigorous man was appointed to the ChM-
mead of the French army. (" Hear, hear," and cheers.)
What followed ? His name was mutely mentioned in the
united camps than suave followed. The fact of the right
man having been appointed encouraged the troops, and
mous followed, and would follow if things went on on the
same principle. (Great cheering.) There was another
rearm why be said you should keep up this movement,
sad let the world, and let our troupe know it was going on.
To whoa did we owe our successes? Was it to the com-
manding officers of the Staff? Was it not to those heroic
sea who bad through a long winter of suffering kept up
their courage and their spirits, and were now rea.y to
undertake anything s (Tremendous cheering) As yet
all the honours bad been showered on what the Tsmss
oanespoudent called the " coked hats" of the thaff.
Letthse society and the people stir w that they were pee-
l° shower the honours on those who deserved them.
Hear, bear," and cheers.) Let it go forth to the men in the
"Hear,
rises who were watillieg this movement, that they were
struggling on behalf of the regimental officers and soldiers,
and that their one object was fair Mu for all end honours
foe thole who deserved. them (Loud cheers.) That win
lalavirage these men for the light, and they would be ever-
lastingly grateful to thou who thus supported them, and
wise would be thus only doing their duty to them and their
ecastry. (Hear.) He would maintain that no mecum need
camp the ardour of the society. He was told that the
enisty bad no definite objects. (Hear, bear.) He sup-
posed that cheer was a symptom that some one thought that
was possibly the cue, but be differed from that opinion.
Hs would maintain that the address of the society contained
caw sod definite ideas. He was prepared to state the
greeds on which the emulation proceeded, and he would
do en to gems eaten* that evening, and he should do it folly
en Friday next, when the motion of which he bad given
seta, ease iss. (Oreat sad tostineed cheering.) And let
it be remembered that he had never qe tiled fur a moment
with regard to that motion. He certainly did think test
beings Whitauptide it would be better to discuss the question
oldie war; but the question of administrative reform wee
eve disdain in itself, and nothing on earth would induce
Ma to give it up. (Hear, hear.) The first object of the
moiety was to gain information. There was nothing iodefi-
site is that, although the gainmg of information involved a
anltiplitity of subjects. They could not move without in•
ferastioo. Everything connected with the government was
searaisded by • veil of mystery, and it was the purpose of
the essiety to break through that veil. When the
Come Law Lamm was formed a quarter of a million
of gamey was collected for a specific object ; and
yet the abolition of the corn laws was, to his
mad, a secondary °Meet te that of this association. Get
the right see into the government, and the abolition of the
torn laws, or any whin noxious law, woo d follow of
emus*(" Hear, hear," and cheers.) Let those who wished
well to this cause enable the society, pecuniarily, to obtain
information, and the best men should be employed in get-
ting such ieforcesti• n. Then came semethieg more tangible
is the three great branches of the public service—the army
and navy, diplomacy, and the civil service. With regard to
the army, that was rather • delicate subject with him.
(Hear hear.) He tied made • first attack on it—s kind
of Bslaklava charge—in which, though he had got •
had Mow, he had yet done some mischief to
the enemy. On Friday sight he should put himself
right with regard to • sligM error which he tad made; sad
be yawns* nub to blame is that, for from the complexity
of the Mau it was setvery ouy to get at the truth. He
onset Ida snob as ahtapYalB of temper should have been
,wad W lis slight mielelta But his experience of the
Meoner Mama lad same him that you may be guilty
et se away VON iesmonsise as yin like with • party,
bat beware bow yen make a mistake if you stand alone.
(Lad sedhageontissedshearing ) If you did,upjeloped
• umber sit isillment coisnels, who say that they ere gar-
primed et tar impsienes of any one who paused to touch
the army; 1181 the ial of Derby, in this instance, kw-
PIM or I" P•tbilll impetuosity which gained for him
the ISM Glir the " Prises Rupert of Debate' " did him (Mn.
loyeidithe buses,buses,to say that he bad se connexion with
Ms. (Lulea", sheen, and arias of " You don't want
Ida.") Theo Sir Jeks Praia/tee roes and delivered to
W a king QUA., Sembas legate on the impropriety et

When a man who turnips crier,
Crier not when Ina father die;
"TM a peon( Motile bad rather
Ilan a turnip than Ma father."

(Laughter.) That was a play on words, and the meaning
was made convertible, and so it was now, for it was said the
best men have the but places ; the Russells, Rentsays, and
Greys, have the places, and therefore they are the best
men. (Hear, hear, and laughter) With regard to the other
appointment he should not say much. Mr. Howell
was the partner of the brother of Mr. Hayter, the
flosretary to the Treasury. It had bees denied that the ap-
pointment was made through any party influence, but did
say sae think that Mr. Howell could have got it if his
serener had not happened to be Mr. liarter'a brother ?
(lieu, hear) Although he did not say it might not be a
good one. Then look at the diplomatic service. It needed
a thorough reform; most of what had happened of late,
even the war in which we were engaged, was owing to the
defects in the diplomatic service, and lie should have to make
some suggestion in that touter in his place in the House of
Commons on Friday. He was aware that there was • Cr,
spinet secret di:4°lE64l,ost he warned those who took up that
cry against indulging in it. Diplomacy must, to • certain
extent, be secret, but at the same time there seed not be
Igo much concealment emulated with it as was the case
now. The third point to which he had to allude
was the civil service. That wee, tho most important
question. In that respect they bad some grounds to go
upon, for an excellent report on the subject had been pub.
and things would be greatly improved if the ream.
ntemiliations contained in it were only carried out. He
would adviie the society to have Liquifies made as to how
the business in each office of the government was carried
on. Men were put into those offices merely on political
grounds, they were over filled with inefficient men, and
lisquines should be made whether the number of persons
in the civil service could not be reduced, and the work at
the same time be well and better done. He thought that the
officials in the civil service were under paid, and if proper
redaction in their numbers were made, those who were
retained would be better paid. The liberal party in this
country had made a great mistake in pressing for reduction
in salaries of public functionaries, for the result had been
that it was not the large salaries of the greater ogle, s whiob
had been reduced, but those of the little offices, filled by
hard-working men. (Hear, hear.) He woad say put
down everything in the shape of a sinecure, but it was an
injastice and a cruelty not to pay well those who did the
work. (Hear, hear.) There were 60,000 persons con-
nected with the civil service in all its branches,
all of whom were under political influence.
He was told that, in the terms of his motion, he had made
somewhat of • mistake, and that instead of saying that " the
fume viewed with deep con ern the state of the nation," be
ought to have said that " the nation viewed with deep con•
cars the state of the house." (Laughter and cheers.)
Although such terms as had been suggested might have
bees rather oat of order, and might have called down the
Speaker's mace upon his head—(laughter)—yet he thought
they would best have expressed the feeling of the country.
(Cheers.) The people were beginning to have less faith is
the House of Commons. They saw in it a mere struggle of
parties. The association might have to go further thee'
they had anticipated. If they could obtain such re•
Iforms as were most needed, they would sot p
beyond; but he believed that the association were peepttall
to go—he, for one, certainly was—lS far as might be user
sary for the attainment of the object. (Cho. re.) Let met,
large town in which a ommittee was organised call upon
its representatives, in the words of Lord Oodericb, " not to
darken the doors of Mr. Hayter." (Hear, hear )
Ono of the strongest arguments used in favour of
the rotten boroughs was that they afforded facilities
for bringing forward young men of genius in parliament.
It was • reflection upon this country if mea were not now
returned who wero fit for such • position. (Hear, bear.)
He thought that Mr. Tile was quite right in the course
which he had recently pursued, and that the association
owed that gentleman • debt of gratitude. Hitherto the
Hums of Commons had been divided foto two parties, both
resting their power and their strength upon traditions,
open family, and apes the representation of a class. Let
*webs a sew party, representing not a ease, but the
111.11111111.11 sad feelings of the people of England; relying for
sopport see upon family or a class, bat upon the
Aegis elf this country; and let this party be celled
des gulikessl party. (Cheers.) Hitherto the House of
Cu_mens has been arum; on • peat straggle
nimiladfal of the people. The members were struggling
lit *CO, and knew nothing of what happened oat of doors.
They were like gamblers; everything was staked upon •
Meow; but the police were already at the door, and if they
went os much longer the cards, the players, the lights, and
the dice would alibis taken. (Cheers, and laughter.) The
erldes had staked very heavily on the liberal card, and they
bat stet ; but they showed no gratitude to the liberal card.
The .assent they had pocketed the stakes they left the
asi WM fate. There was not • man in the cabinet, and
sawed/ ass in the subordinate changeable positions, who
11121 SW either a lord or aa honourable. There were
bet Om or five exceptions to the rale—Mr. Ball,
Mr. Magaman, =done or two others. Tbey were told that
• mem wee open in the House of COMINGS to every man
at talent Let him ask, was that so? (Loud cries of
" No.") A man might rise upon certain conditions ; but
haviag born at the trouble of making a list of the whig
artaistries for the last 150 years—no very pleasing task—
(leughter)—he had found the same names always coming
se, with one exception, that eminent whig historian, Mr.
Macaulay. In such cases as this lest there was always •
meet of compromive. That explained the attune on that
aseasion of Sir William Molesworth and Sir Benjamin
Hall, of whom he might say, " If they had not
been there, they would have been here." (Laughter.) If
there were any mat who might well have been expected to
alter the system, that mast was Lord Palmerston. (Hear,
hear.) Lard Palmerston was carried into power pre.
oedema,' by the people. Yet in his case they had, for the
gnat rime, usa a Prime Minister who had jested at the
sufferings of the imam He had never seen Lord Pals
mentos is Am wheal* bad sot vilified the people. (Yer•
premien. of dissent.) Let them read the reports of the
debater, and see whether each was not the cue. (No, so.)
One of Lord Palmerston's objections to this movement was
that it was an attack on the aristocracy. He (Mr. Lava)
denied that se completely as hie friend in the chair bad leei.
(Cheese.) It was so compliment to the aristocrat* taymg
draftK pub& maplomsents were thrown open to fair seepo-
*Noy they would be iseladed. (Hear, hear.) The mew
elides mold require great *serfdom; it would require ors
who westil ester lam the work with boast boar% with
snealleh dome, sad with adetermisatiou to weevers twill
the Ogee bed bees seared. He believed their chairman to
be mob a mos as be bed described, and rejoiced to me him
is that purities. (Ohms.) In the words of are address (snot

by the committee, "If they wanted an honest Rent,'
they must choose their members honestly." (tZtleer.)
Let their motto be, "Fitons, not favour;" and if they
were asked what ware the objects of the maculation, let
them reply in the words of the Immortal Shakspeare, who
expressed the sentiments not only of the Englishmen of his
day, but of Englishmen in all thaw-
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Who will go about without fortune,
Mad be honourable the stamp of malt?
Let none morass* to wear an untieseteed dignity.
0 that estate% degrees, sad Mikes were not derived wernotly;
And that sear homier were pureharn by
The merit et the wearer. How many then
Should COTO' that amod bare ; w many
De eumreautkil that onnobind.
The hon. gentleman resumed his seat amid repeated rounds

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of applause.
Mr. LINDSAY addressed the meeting nest. He said he
NMI befits the meeting as a plain man of business,
having no pretensions to eloquence, and dealing chiefly
with facts. He sad others who agreed with him
bad too large a stake to be amenable to the
chugs of seeking to overthrow the constitution. They did
not make war against the constitution, but they contended
'that the government of eke country ought not to be vested
in a family clique. Some denied that such was the case;
but his reply was that if any one of the number were to die
iatestate, some of the sus vivors would claim his property by
right of kin, and be able to prove the claim in a court of
law. (Laughter.) Although this movement had already
to a certain extent urged on those in °face, and led

fir the ship to p to the engineer, and that it would oost the
country less, act the engineer weld come over to Deptford
for 4d., and the ship would out 1001. in going to Wool-
wich. The Admiralty ordered the ship to go dome,
but the owner said that he would not send her dowo, andl
that he would rather take her away from there. Hal
could go into a dozen cuss of similar anstosnagement,
, the details of which would make their hair stand on sad
Tide was a very serious question, ant manly as regarded the
1111111 deanery, but as regarded the disgrace such edam.
nelantend was bringing upon x He need not lIMMIBH
IbMII that the great cause of the disasters of our army in the
Hut um from mismanagement. Some 90,000 or 100,000
Mesa atom had been salt to have he.,, sent out to feed our
I may in the Ba-t, and yet our soldiers had starved uncared
lair, and died like dogs in ditches. Oa -the 29th of January
I he had moved for a return of those store*, and five months
afar he bad obtained it ; but although there was in the re-
turn mounts of other things there was not a word about
these stores in it, and he did not mean to let the govern-
ment pass by with respect to it. Re had also moved for a
return of the number of transports employed; and, again,
after five months' delay, he had got it, but it was full of the
grossest errors, such as, if they had been committed by a
clerk 'Able, he would dismiss him immediately. He ut.
tended, if he found that the mistakes is the
return were such as he thought, is • repre-
sentative of the people, to insist that the men
who made it out should be dismissed from the
public service. (Loud cheers.) That was the way to gm I
the right men in the right places. (Loud cheers.) He was
aware that by the course he was taking he was makieg
many personal enemies, just as his hon. friend (Mr. Layard)
was. But he cared nothing for that, and while he took on
himself Unissued respensibility of a representative of the
people no threat of personal injury to himself should clue
his lips or prevent him performing his duty, or carrying
out the lured trust committed to him by those who had
sent him to represent them. The practical object of the
society was to diminish and destroy the iellunces by means
of which incapable men were placed in offices in the public
service. (The boa. gentleman here read an extract from
the published address of the society to the above effect.) He
should like to see this society go band in hand with parlia-
mentary reform. (" Hear, hear," and cheers.) You would
never have the right men in the right places till you got the
right men into parliament. (Hear, bear.) He wished to
see means taken to put down bribery and corruption at
elections. (Cries of the "Ballot.") Oh! he was an ad-
vocate for the ballot. He knew what a csntested cleaner
against strong influences was. Yet he shoulc.
aka the society ti looe sight of its one ob-
ject, that is. the correction of the mismanagement
and abuses which arose from the system of parliamentary
patronage, and that system must be abolished entirely. He
believed its abolition would be supported by members of
parliament, who would rather that the system did not exist ;
for it was simply a nuisance to them. It was said that no
government could exist without patronage. Such govern-
ments as thou of Lord Aberdeen or Lord Palmerston might
not; and any government which could not be carried on
by its own istrinsio merits and by means of the confidence
of the people and the House of Commons, such a govern-
ment ought not to exist for a moment. (Loud cheers.)
Mr. W. TITS, 111 P., next addressed the meeting, and
adverted to the novelty of his position on that occasion es •
scientific man who had rarely until now mixed in political
matters ; he alluded to the contest he had recently bad for
the representation of Bath, aid declared that be owed his
success in a place where he was quits unknown entirely
to his !ohm the representative of the principle of adminis-
trative reform, • principle that was adopted after it was
found to have served him so well by his opponents,
just as in another place the opponents of Mr.
Layard and other administrative reformers were beside
Ding to adopt that principle also, and endeavouring
strip them of the honour which belonged to the movement
The hon. member then quoted Napier's " History*, the
Peninsular War," to show that at that time official incom
potency led to results similar to those wh ch had been re•
cently witnessed in the Crimea. He then adverted to the
subject of patronage, and was proceeding to quote the lints
from Shakspeare, which he said appeared to him apposite,
commencing "O that estates, &c.," when be was inter-
rupted by a roar of laughter, analog from the fact that the
same lines had been previously quoted by Mr. Layard. The
hon. gentleman explained the apparent oversiaht by observ-
ing that he was not present when Mr. Lapsed spoke, and
observed that the sentiment expressed would bear repeti-
tion. He concluded by expressing his belief that the
movement, if rightly and perseveringly conducted, woulu
be crowned with success.
Mr. OTWAY, said he had heard it remarked else-
where that they wen theorists, with no practical object;
but he thought that what had been said that evening by
the chairman (Mr. Layard) and by Mr. Lindsay, gave the
most emphatic denial to that smartie°. (Cheers.) He
could imagine no objec• more practical, especially at the
present moment, than that of ensuring good government
foe this country. (Hear, hear.) The civil service should,
he thought, be open to every man in the country who could
show that he possessed the necessary qualifications
(Cheers.) And not only should all be &duels-
sible, but the prises, instead of being reserved
for those who had the ocinmand of influence, should
be awarded to hard-working and competent persons
who had proved their capacity. In defence of the system of
purchasing commissions in the army, it had been said that
it was impossible to define merit. It was merit that regulated
promotion in this case, if non-commissioneu dilate, and
even if adjutants:, why should not the same principle be ap-
plied in other canes ? (Hear, hear) There was in this
country an institution which wai founded especially for the
education of officers of the staff, upon whose efficiency
the success of military operations so greatly de-
pended. He had • return of 136 officers employed
on the staff in the Crimea. Of these 136 officers, how
many had shown their qualification by obtaining certificatae
at Sandhurst? Why, nine, some of whom were generals.
Then, again, as regarded diplomacy, there had been lately
published • little work setting forth the names and services
of all the individuals employed in the diplomatic profession,
and the results were curious. They had two ambtssadora,
and no more; both were peers. They had 22 ministers, of
whom five were peen, six sons of peers, two baronets, and
three paternally nephews of peers. Of the 22, 16 were
either peers or neer relations of peers, leaving only
six for the other classes in the state. They had
three secretaries of embu-lee. Of these one was a
peer, one the son of • peer, and one a commoner.
They had twenty-two secretaries of legation, and ten of
these were sons of peers, and the names of:five others showed
that they were nearly connected with peers. Of the 124 ap-
pointments of which the diplomatic service was composed
sixty-four were secured by the peerage. (Hear, bear.) Was
it, he asked, a proper state of things—was it fair
to the intelligent middle classes of the country,
that a great profession like that should be monopolised
by the peerage ? (Cheers.) It had sometimes been said : It is
very well o talk of having the right man in the right
place, but how are you to determine who is the right man ?
(Hear, hear.) Well, that was not always passible; ball
there was one thing that was always possible, and that was
to say who was the wrong man. (Hear, hear.) The hon.'
Imember concluded by referring to the Affghanistan war,
I as affording by its:dimmers under one set of commanders,
audits triumphs under a succeeding set, a striking illustra-
tion of the advantage of selecting the proper men to serve
the public.
At the conclusion of Mr. Otway's speech the meeting was
about to be dissolved, it being then ten o'clock ; but there
were loud and coot nued crie. for Sir Charles Napier, who
at length came forward, amidst loud cheers.
Sir C Karma then said that he had not words to express
his thanks for the reception they had given hint—a reten-
tion he had no right to expect, being a man who had been
dismissed from his command. He was not then prepared
to address the assembly, bat had come there merely as en
observer. He, however, intended to join the association,
believing that the safety of the country depended on its
sumac What they had seen it the Crimea, and the dis-
asters which had happened to the army, showed that reform
was required in ovary office under the crown. (" Hear,
hear," and cheers.)
The CHAIRMAN said the meeting was now at an end ;
votes of thanks to the chairmen having been agreed to be
dispensed with, and it was now 10 o'clock. Mr. Bennoeh
and other gentlemen would address the next meeting, which
he hoped would be on that day fortnight.
The proceedings then terminated.

to a show of doing something, them was still a
large amount of gross mismanagement; and he must,
t►erefo», ask their attention to some plain facts
bearing on that point. About six week, arm a brave soldier
who was very well known to them all, Sir De Lacy Evans—
(cheers)—asked him (Mr. Lindsay) in the House of Com-
mons if the scarcity of shippiog was still as great es it had
been ? He replied that it was not, and that there was ship-
ping to be found at mat moment to any amount. Sir De Lacy
Evans said, " That is very strange, for I have been waiting
for more than a month to send out three thousand hone*
to the division whichl commanded in the Crimes, which
is very much in want of horses. I have bonoht the bor.'s,
but the Admiralty tell me they cannot find tonnage to
send them out." He (Mr. Liaasay) made inqui-
ries at various places in the City with the view
of ascertaining whether suitable ships could not be
obtained to convey these horses. He afterwards wrote
to Sir De Lacy Evans a letter, which, by that gentleman's
desire, he should now read to the meeting, observing before
doing so, that on the previous evening the gallant general
said he was sorry that the delicate state of his health would
not allow him to attend the meeting, and that the letter was
to be regarded as his protest against the present mis-mmage.
ment of the war. The following was the letter in question :

-
"8, Austinfrian, City, May 1.
"Dear Sir De Lacy Evans.---You mentioned to me a short
lime sines that you were anxious to see sent out some 3,000
hinge for the division of the army you commanded in the
But. and that though the horses were ready, the govern-
ment over and over again told you they could not find ships.
I expressed my surprise to you, and I thought that where
there was a will there was surely a way. I referred, and
found that at the very time the government were telling
you they could not find ships, a friend of mine had in one
letter offered to Lord Penman a inastoificent fleet of, I dare
say, the finest and swiftest ships in the world, ready in 24
hours' notice to convey at the low rate of some 16s. or 17s.
rer ton register, 2,200 horses from this country to the
Crimea, and that the only answer he received was the usual
one that it would be considered. That day I suppose that
important letter was popped into the great big waste basket
at the War Office, or sent to the Admiralty and lost in the
chaos which there appears to reign supreme, for he heard no
more about it. These ships have, of course, since that time
all gone on other voyages. Last night. in • he house, you
told me again that the horses were rill eating their heads
cff, while our army prayed for them in the But, and that
the same cause kept them here—no ships, at least, no suit-
able ships. It is sad to think of all this perverse—what
shall I call it?—perverse imbecility, if not something worse.
I spoke to my friend in the City this morning, and here is
another fleet all ready for your horses at about the same low
rates. They are all ships averaging from 1,200 to 2.100 tons re-
gister, and could carry in safety the winner of borsea lazed
te each :—Beacen Light would take 160 bones; Alen. 180;
Sifted°, 220; Conseil& Lawrence, 175; Chariot of Fame,
200; Star of the Empire, 180; James Chilton, 130; Ben-
min Thaver, 140 ; Aurifers, 100; Pride of the Sea, 180;
Weisel's'', 165; Neptune, 230; King Lear, 230; Panther,
UM; Conway, 170-2.660 horns in all. He will also fit
then ships for the horses; be will feed them, load them,
god take them from the fields here to the fields of action in
the Crimes, if you like, and lead them, while our govern-
ment are thinking, or, rather, dreaming, about it. They
are all what are called ' clipper ships of about 8 feet
height between decks, of known and established speed, and,
I might say, that I would stake my reputation upon the
face, that they would make the passage to the Crimea in
very nigh as short a time as many of the steamers now in
the service of our government, and for which they are pay-
*: more than three times toe price. If, however, steamers
are wanted for there horses, I shall undertake to produce
men in the City who will find you the requisite number of
them within eight days from the date you send them the
order, and give you no trouble about the horses, till you heat
of them landed sung and safe in the Crimea, with a loss
not exceeding 3 tor cent., and fresh for the campsite,
which I wish your health would allow you, for the sake of
my country, to go and lead. Or, if you only drill me for a
couple of weeks in the arts of war—sailor as I am-1 would
feel half disposed to leave my dingy desk and go myself. I
would do almost as well as some who are there now.-1 ant
moat faithfully years,
(3igoed) " W. 8. LtstrisoY.
"General Sir De Lacy Evans, K.C.8., fltc."
the government would not allow City men to do the work
Ire them, they would do it themselves, and it was now
theme months sisal these horses had been bought, and he
sadsrstood the larger part of them had not yet Leen sent
mat. (Hear.) The government were certainly now =sk-
im a push in their own way, but they were doing little real
work. He would give another instance. There were two
steamers lying in the Clyde, and the government was
anxious to have them. The owner was a Manchester mer.
shant, and he wrote toe friecd in London, telling him to
make a tender of the ships to the government. He did so,
and in four or five days he got an answer; but the condi-
tions attached to the acceptance of the vessels were
sash that it was impossible that any man of bul-
lion could agree to them, and one of them was
offered to the French government, who accepted it, and it
win sent into the French service. On Thursday last the
other steamer ern offered to the government. On Saturday
they agreed to accept her on condition that she came root d
from the Clyde to Liverpool, to be examined by the govern-
ment officer there. ("Oh," cheers, and laughter.) His
friend wrote to the Manchester merchant to that
effect, and the Manchester merchant wrote in reply :
It I
propositions of the English government, and I do wish
above all things that the French government were in the
market at present for vessels of her size and OW, and thus
give us the opportunity of chartering that ship also, at even
a lower price, with a foreign government, and showing up
chose precious fellows at the Admiralty, and which! would
do through our local prem. The loss to the country by those
bungling and ridiculous orders is quite beyond calculation.
Who would deal with them who can deal anywhere else?"
Not satisfied with that letter he came up directly to London
and got the vessel into the French service, and the British
service lost another excellent ship. On the 12th of June
the neat of the owner thus advised the Admiralty
" June 12, 1856.
" Sir,—l was duly favoured with yours of the 9th and
11th inst., in reference to the screw steamer
The owners declined to incur the heavy expense of sending
so large • ship round to Liverpool or Deptford eithout first
enemas that your surveyors approved of her ; and they
felt that your demand was so unnamable sad unbusinear
like, when at so small an expense you m ght have sent a
yor to the ship at Greenock, test I have by their
orders engageo. the ship elsewhere —I am, air, your
obedient servant, 46
To say that things were going on better, In the face of
such statements, was absurd. That shipowner said to him
that this fact bad ceased him to become • thorough ad
miaistratin reformer, and that he would mud 1001. to the
society. (Loud cheers.) But that was nothing to another
ease he could relate. Just the day before that great ad.
minietrator Sir James Graham—(laughter, and " bear,
hear"j—left office, a steamer of the value of 60,0001. was
lying at Deptford, and the Admiralty hat 12 tons of stores
h,itag at Newcastle. The steamer was under orders to go to
Teetemoutb to take up trooos Immediately for the Crimea,
bat orders were given by the Admiralty to the owner, that
is her way to Portsmouth she must cell at Newcastle.
(Sheets of laughter, "hear," and cheers.) If this
use sot so various • matter for the country, be
eesld laugh himself—but to be ordered to go to Newcastle
to call for those 12 toss of stores ! (" Hear, bear," god
sheers.) The owner wrote to the Secretary to the Admi-
ralty, saying that those 12 toes mould be brought up from
Newmatle for 81, but that it would met the country 2,0001.
its the ship to ge round for them. The Admiralty wrote
• very angry letter, as if he was presuming to dictate to
them, and ordered the ship to go round. The owner again
remonstrated, and an order cows down is which it was said
that " Sir J. Graham iasiated that the ship should In made
ready to go to Newcastle to take in 12 tom of combustibles
co the following Monday, on her way to Portsmouth."
Still the owner said he meld not put the country to the
Met el 2,0001., and be would not let the ship go, let the eon-
sequesees be what they might. (Load cheers.) In three
days. the Admiralty being ashamed to write a contradictory
leder,
_a letter came from another department at Deptford,
in which it was said, " Captain Ardis begs to inform
Mr. —(cries of" a -me, name")—he would give the name
to any one in meadow*, but he did not think he should
be required to smelt publicly. Well, " Captain Austin
begs to inform " Mr. —, that it extesqmnee of • tele-
paphie menage jut received, it is not intended that his
ship should go to the Tyne, as the articles at
Newcastle will be sent theme to oolwich." (Hear, bear.)
And so they feud est their mistake at lees (Hem, hear.)
He had got mother ems still more monstrous. (" Hear,"'
esti lereghter.) • steam ship was lying at Deptford, and
t meager who was to ge in her lived at
lee= was neesesary that before the ship was
aimed the engineer should impost her engine,. Orders
MN fees the Admiralty to the owner to take her round to
Woolwich, in order that the engineer might walk on board.
('. Hear, hoer," and laughter.) The owner answered that
Ii would be better for the gallium to some le the ship thaw

ROYAL BOTANIC GARDENS—Yesterday the second
exhibition of fruit and flown took plate at the Berreat's.
park. Although the morning looked lowering, there was
men than an average gathering of fashionable society.
Indeed, the grounds have not been so well attended for
some years past. Throughmet the day there were symptoms
of rain overhead. Fortunately, however, the weather held
sufficiently propitious to enable the company to enjoy the
gay variety of the show unmixed with any alloy of personal
discomfort till near its clue*. The arrangement of the
flowers wee admirable and artistic. Ranee, cacti, orchids and
heaths ware in rich variety, to please the experienced eye of
the connoisseur or to evoke the sentiment of the unpractised
novice. The fruit included pion, grapes, peaches, nectarines,
cherries, and strawberries, apparently of excellent quality.
Among the visitors were the Duchess ut Cambridge and
Princess Mary of Cambridge. the Countess De !destiny and
the Doc d'Astuele the Princess Adelaide of Hohenlohe,
and the Princess Fiodore of Hohenlohe, the Duchess of St.
Alban's, the Counteiesof Bradford ; Ladies Enfield, Deere,
Stirling, Caveadish, Maclaine, J. Lashington, Macfarlane,
Peto, Willoughby de Broke, Morton Peal, Finlowes,
Burton Buchan, Hamilton, and Barrow • the Bishop of
Winchester, the Mat qui, of Bristol, Lord Panmure, Earl
Weldegrave ; Sirs H. limas W. J. Newton, G. Hodg-
klason, J. Lushiogton, Claude doom
A HINT TO ARTISANS AND MECHANICS.—The

---
Commissioners of Patents have presented a complies col-
lection of their valuable series of copies of Specificatiims of
Patents, with descriptive plates, indexes of patents, and all
other works printed by them, embraeieg a period from 1617
ro tko mom, time, to the fdarylebone Free Library, 27,
Gloucester place, New-road, on oonditios that trey should
be available for gratuitous masaltation, and the taking of
notes or sketch'', every day in the week, from 10 in the
morning till 10 st eight. The series relating to Smarms
is exceedingly interesting at the present time.
Honorary degrees will, it is understood, be oon-
fened at the ensuing Osford Commemoration on the fol-
lowing eminent persons, In addition to those whose names
have been already nisenoced :—Kr. Alfred Tennyson. poet
laureate ; Sir Charles Lyell, the geologist; and the Rev.
F. W. Rope, late president of the Entomological Sosiety,
and the manifleent donor of the soUsetios, library, sad
. sagravisus, sow in the Randolph sad Taylor building, sad
Weeded to be placed in the sew masts.

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Eakv iinteritcsence.

INSOLVENT DEBTORS COURT.—JoNE 13.
111:70113 XI. COMIIIIMIOIIII VORPIIT.
IN RI Th011•B YosWN 111110HAY-11WINDLIX0.
This insolvent, a respectable-looking man, applied to be
discharged from the Queen's Prison. Mr. Sargoad op.
posed for Mr. Waters., British wins and vinegar maker. Mr.
Reed supported.
The me presented some remarkable features. The
insolvent, who was discharged under the act on a former
occasion, bad upwards of 30 residences in his schedule,
where he had pursued his occupations for a short time, and
had appeared before the public in several aliases. There
were upwards of 200 creditors on the schedule, and the
debts were nearly 6,0001. He had been known as " Wilson
and C 0.," also as " Ward and C 0.." and latterly, before he
went to prison, as" Hobson and C 0.," in the naphtha line.
He was arrested and taken to Orford Castle, from which
place he was removed by habeas corpus to the Queen's prison.
On his application to this court his petition was dismissed, for
the wantofjuriediction. The insolvent, however, remained in
prison, and had obtained permission to file another petition.
The question was again raised, and atter consideration the
commissioners gave the insolvent leave to be beard in Lon-
de*. To-day was appointed for the hearing, and Mr.
Waters, the complainant, seas examined. and from his evi-
dence it appeared that in November, 1819, his traveller,
Lamb (now dead) sent him au order for 641., in the name
of " Ward and Co., of Rochester." The goods were sent as
directed, and both the insolvent and the goods quickly
disappeared. Had Mr. W known the insolvent was
the same person who applied to him in the preceding An•
gust as of Bedfordrquare, Commercial-road, he should
have known be belonged to a gang of swindlers. He (Mr.
Waters) had been made a victim of the parties, and bad
pursued the insolvent at an szpense of upwards of 1001. It
was through the conduct of his traveller that he had been a
sufferer.
The insolvent was esamined as to his residences and occu-
, nations, as also as to a number of debts he had omitted
because they were barred by the Statute of Limitation. It
appeared toat he had been in prison for 16 months, and has
petition was Sled in March last.
The case was urged upon the court as one of a swindling
character, and for the sake of th, trading community a
I lengthened judgment was prayed.
Mr. Reed contended that alter an imprisonment of 16
months the insolvent was entitled to his discharge.
Mr. Commissioner Murphy gave his opinion on the case
as it was to be adjourned to insert creditors. Since he had
bad a seat in this court he had never seen a more perfect
swindle. Cases had occurred in which, although compelled
to give adverse judgments, he had felt for the insolvents; but in
this case there had been a gross systematic swindle. Here was
a person with 31 residences, several aliases, with debts to
4,8001., going to Mr. Waters, in London, and being refused
goods ; he then sent an order es from Rochester, as
Ward and Co." The gown were admitted to have been
sent to London within six days, and disposed of by one
Foster. It was "diamond cut diamond" u between the
insolvent and Feeler. It was a very gross case, and the
answer was that the insolvent bad been sixteen
months in prison. In such a case be should not con-
sider the imprisonment the insolvent had undergone, but
act upon the case as it he had only been is prison from
the vesting order in April. He was clearly of opinion
that a debt had been incurred with Mr. Waters by false
pretences, and the judgment would be an imprisonment of
18 calendar months.
The judgment was deferred to insert some creditors.

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name and address; all olh, ram sourioto. ;natation,.

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Great Exhibition. Section 22, No. 462, sad fur which the trolls
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