The Express.
London, England, 1852-02-12 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT. They masted a bill, offering _ esligions list=
secular 'thumbs, ad free from tied.iesties of is
the eeserisam ; asd for their at% ell thurs wae la- I
HOUSE OF COMMONB.—WZDNIIIDAT, FEL 11. ite Ili Under them circusasemalseels il nem
The hoses met yesterday at nom. hardly fair that_ they abed* be vest by s gbh: • Tioll
NEW MEMBER. ceeporation of 1111 inter Weird gem ealtdiag
Mr. FOX MAULS took the oaths sad his seat on his ceders, if they ehook a= aeon II hid cam-
esseleetion for Perth. natal it would he emapelmet flit . say of that
PRIVATE BUSINESS. lase to move the* it le oreediseed • •
The following bile were read • seelad time sad re- Mr. FOX wield set have 1110 tow olherbiestjl;
breed to 'elect eousesithies : —Barnsley Improvement, Police, minims sad andantesspeeelely
Markets, Le., Bill; Chester ad Holyhead Ilailway Bill; member foe Oohed University, Wet he sewed ta
Chelteshana Improvement and Melds Bill; Haw Bridge impression seas effect that there mee ~Aft
sad Roads Bill ; Liverpool Museum and Library Bill ; big to ii the relishable esd of
Liverpool Coration Waterwerks Bill ; Lockwood and MaseliceteilVll= es the WPM el die M. not
Molthiun Reed Bill ; Maceledield and Beath° Rood Bill; wee very he hem be the feet. (Hear, bees.) It wield
Midlaad Great Western Railway of Ireland Bill , Nene be found that la Marseheater the laws albs& priesthood,
Valley Drainage and Navigation Improvement Bill; the Jew,, and the Society of Fria* had all tomonstrated
Oxford. Worcester, and Wolverhampton Railway (No. ll sad protested wiled the provisions', this noseare. There
Bill ; Oxford, Worcester, and Wolverhampton Railway were oho nod sleisties in the field. The spastics bigkil
01' 2) Hill ;. Portaea Go. B'll; l'ortdentleon end Ninth- whisk is Mannheim allotted to public mieollegma
wynatit Roads Bill ; Rooney, Broughton, Stockbridge. end .t. toed these seat meeting., attended by
a
Wallop Roads Bill ; Runcorn Improvement Bill; Shilling- Mouses& of obi& one was in support of the messore,lZ
ford, Wallingford, and Reading Road, and Shillingford two hostile. Another r. awn for postponement was, that
Bridge Bill ; Aouthamptnn Corporation Bill ; South Essen they were Inaking forward to a palm& e.
Estuary and Reel ignition Bill; Tyne Improvement Dill; sure to he breasts forward by the goviesiseat ihslL
Wendt° Water and Sewerage lhll ; Wexfurel Harbour Ime There were tame echaeiplea involved in the quacks wide '
promment Bill. which parliament bad hesitated to deal, bet into which '
MANCHESTER AND SALFORD EDLT.ITION local boards bad not feared to rush, with a view of perms-
BILL• neatly selling them. He was nut opposing the bill on Mi-
ler. BROTHEIZTON, in moving the second wading earns ground., because whatever might be his own notion,
of this bill, stated that it. object was to provide free educe- 6 should defer in that matter to the opinion of the locality
Lion to the childri a of all the inhabitants of the two to be alfec ted. Ile roptened it on the ground of not fulfil-
boroughs, by means or • local rate, to be managed by the hag the conditions laid down by the noble lord at the bead •
town council or committee appointed by them. *fhb, was of the government, who hail said that two things were rob-
in part carrying out a eleaire very generally express/eel by sedately essential in an education bill—first, that the edam- I
th • inbutitants of the three townships roMpriwit in the tionshuuld be religious ; and second, that it should do no •
bill, that their youth should he brought up religiously and violence to the conscience of any class. He believed that
morally, the right of conscience being regarded. For this there were darns, and respectable classes, to whole con-
purpose
they had consented to tax thristsci•ye. lie was science* this bill would do vielence. (Hoar, hear.)
aware there was anew 4111ra-reale of opinion among the pro. Mr. HUME, es an ardent supporter of education, ap- 1
motet. oleo edeeatiemal scheme for these boroughs as to prated to the promoters of the bill whether it would not
souse of the details of the measure, hut not more than might be prudent to content to • postponement of a few days. HA
he satisfactorily dispowd of in committee. His own feeling opinion was, that the education question should be takes I
was is favour of a general system of secular education up ha, government, said therefore he Mould support the •
which should not infringe the conscience of any individual ; amendment
but they must treat mankind as they found them, and Sir F. T. BARING admitted the great importance of
when he found that all parties and all sects in Manchester this bill, and regretted the non-attendance of his noble •
and Salford had united together in favour of this bill, making friend at the head of the government, who had been most
mutual conreseions to promote the common object, he felt it willows to attend, but was prevented by important busi-
his duty to assist them as far as he could, in the hope of ac- Imes. Under these eircunntaners, he thought a pintpOne-
compli.liing • great good. In the present state of nubile meat the most convenient course. (Rear, hear.) He
frebug he believed it would be very difficult to frame my should, therefore, move the adjournment of the debate
g, need mesnere which should ho Applicable to every to- unto wi.doe„duy neat, to give an opportunity for discus-
utlaty, manufactiiring and agricultural, and therefore he 'ion, but leaving the question as between the bon. member
was the more anxious to wenn. to Manchester end Salford fur lAneashire and the right boo. measlier for Manchester
the benefit of an educational system under this measure. as it stood at present.
Mr. BROWN seconded the motion, adding that he gave The qui stain of adlournment was then put and carried,
hie support to the hill for the same reasons &I had been and the debate wee adjourned until Wednesday next.
stated by the boo. member for Salford. NEW RIVER WATER COMPANY BILL.
Mr. el. GIBSON bad considerable difficulty in agreeing On the motion that this bill be read a second time,
to the Wenn Iri ailing of the bill, at least for the present. Mr. COWPER moved, as an amendment, that it be read
Hut he should be sore) to throw any obstaclee in the a second time that day six months,_ on the ground that it
way of smiling the measure un to a private bill contemplated robbery as spinet the River Lea Trust.
committee, be.auw when • teepeetable body of men Sir E. COLEBROOK F. supported the bill on sanitary
came to parliament with • bill which they required grounds, as being intended to improve the supply of water
to have investigated before a judicial body like a for 8,000 or 7,ooobouses is the metropolis. He denied the
Private bill committee, a very strong reason should be eximence of any lawsuit likely to be iaterfered with by the
shown for refusiog them ; but they should also take care bill.
that thou: whooppneed the hill Mid equal favour extended Major BERESFORD supported the amendment.
to them; and especially that • corporation which repre- Mr. HUME supported the original motion on the ground
anted the whole bud of the people of a large town like that government having delayed publishing a general ye-
that of Slanchester should be heard, if they desired it, in port, parties were entitled to be placed in as good a position
opposition. But he could allege, if neeralary, an enweial this year as thee had held last year.
reason for the amendment with which he meant to conclude Mr. MACKLNZIE supported the amendment, and the
—to postpnne the el rood reading. Ile was informed that house divided—
the corporation would hold s meeting on the 18th of the For the second reading ge
present niunth on the subject of this bill. By the standing Against it 64-28
erders any person petitioning against a private bill must The bill wee then reed a second time.
deposit his la tition within 7 clear days of the second read- PORTSMOUTH AND GOSPORT WATERWORKS
inn if therefore the corporation should at their meeting
BILL.
decide on opposing the measure, and the second reading
Mr. °EACH said he had been requested by the hon.
should take plate now, they would be too late to present member for Bodmin, who hail charge of the bill, to move the
their petition, and, consequently, be shut out altogether.
poet meat of the second rending until Monday.
lie mend that the second Teasing be postponed for a fort- After a brief discussion the motion for the second reading
night.
was negatived without a die akin.
Mr. BRIGHT seconded the amendment.
Mr. W. PATTEN was pre dto support the bill, not WANDLE WATERWORKS AND SEWAGE BILL.
merely oe the technical ground, but on the merits. The This bill was read a second time.
subject had now bet's under discussion iu Manchester du- WEXFORD HARBOUR IMPROVEMENT BILL.
ring the last two years. It had been canvassed in the sews- This bill was read a emend time.
papers, and the nature of the measure had been known PUBLIC BUSINESS.
there for months, and it was in the power of every person PETITIONS PRESENTED.
there, who desired to do so, to present a petition against it Neuxuarea.—By-Mr. J. JOHNBI ONE, from the ladies
in time to be beard. He believed there was no positive ob- of Allele, N. 8., praying that the Roman catholic nunneries
jection to the principle of the bill, and that was the may be opened to the visitations of the civil authorities.
reason why the cureoration had not petitioned against it. PATENT Lsas.—By Mr. I'ILKINGTON, from the in-
There might he objections against some of the details, but habitants of Blackburn, for amendment of the Patent
those could be disposed of in committee, where thcopinions Laws.
and feeling, of the corporation would, of course, receive SUPPLY.
attention. With regard to the merits of the bill, he Oa the motion of Mr. C. Lewis,
believed so question crested so strong a feeling in his The house went into committee of supply.
county as that of education, in many parts of which meet- On the vote of 17,742,8001. Eschequer Bath,
:new had been held on the subject. The bishop, the dean, and Mr. HUME inquired what was the rate of interest on
the other clergy of Manchester were without exception in fa- Exchequer Bills?
your of thisme nun, as was a great majority of the dissenter,. Mr. C LEWIS said that interest at the rate of lid. per
It was only a fast of the Roman catholic, who objected to it, diem was charged.
but they were provided for in the present schools. Forty Mr. HUME thought that in the present state of the
thousand ratepayers out of KOSS had petitiesed in favour money market there ought to be a reduction in the rata of
of the hill; and, seder these eiremeataaem, the home could interest.
scarcely refuse to wile. ht Mr. Mr. C. LEWIS would prefer that such a question should
Mr. BRIGHT then& the . gentleman who had be addressed to the Chancellor of the Exchequer.
just spoken, had not met the objectios of his right hoe. Alter • short convereetim.,
friend, which was that the morperatioa ad Masehester had Mr. Ill:ME said, that in another committee of supply he
appointed &day to discuss the question, sod that if the should take an opportunity of moving to reduce the rate of
second reading were taken to-day they wadi, should they interest, which he thought the public had a right to
decide against the hill, be shut out ham wefts it berm expect. lie had intended to extend his motion for
the committee. It was true, as the boa. goatisona had the reappointment of the committee, as as to enable
said, that the question had been under dienmise be sow them to inquire into the abed* questim of direct
time is Manchester, but be should remember that the pia sad indirect taxation; but .in eoreqarea of what had
submitted • year or so beck had undergoes very maw pissed between him and the Chancellor of the Exche-
alteratioss. Classes had been withdraws sad ethers add= ease lest night, Ise had agreed that the committee should
to meet objections, in compliance with evaggsahmea, so the bo the snow so that of last year, and finish the business
the corporation had not had an opportunity le seselar the whleli was appointed for them last moire ; and after they
stramie, seta the promoters had laid it en the tehle. It had does so, tie question of direst and indirect taxation
was proposed, in the first place, that all the people et maid be raised,
blinehnter should be rated for the pumas. at Sir H. WILLOUGHBY thought that there should be
education, and that the ' • (am authority sww,pirsd es income-tax in time of pesee, and that the legislature
by the house) was to b. an instoment fa eaSmYeg was pledged to regard it only as a temporary measure. He
the rates, but sot to bees the absolute dithfbattea ad than. thought there was no need for this committee ; and the
The bill might pes to that same other &theft vitalise of whether them should be an income-tax would
superior to the 'weld iatethee Is the &mid. be settled long beton they made their report.
strati& iet the sad he thelehre if that badly The vote wee then agreed to sad the house resumed.
Red awl a=all dia diudidlad an dinaltailia. Ems THE VENTILATION AND LIOHTING OF THE
hosed to to be head by the been as the sallime, HOUSE.
wad the Rom of thee..,_•••B 1,10! "_ _ .16•5 bound tails,' attols- Mr. B. OSBORNE moved the consideration of the 'vi-
des to the* wiehae Km worn* ad that 0f,... these who__ dew OTOS by Dr. Reid at the bar, relating to the yentas-
task the MINS View, wen awe to throw the OIL SME. DM alas stubs beam It had bees preposg, be said, to refer
he wield congest to Ms wearable fries'', the thethbee_____,_
_be dee peed& •le • esimmittee, bat all the mischief which had
Salfert. viewer be would am, in fact, wblew swum, aims Is flosseedes with the mew bendier had proceeded
tbd meet Oh"' uhaan bia l'attwintad by anwiltiet to halm eseimidess. Dr. Reid's evident' showed that, se fir
the as relabel= im seseermed, the trrierous defects complained
Mr. GLADSTONE mid that the dillkedty be wits of hem divided sathonty. As matters stood, both
to draw 811110118 M to was this, that =dor the =sae the sod sho wort had, cud, if cam.
sad teshaford dalbeition of a private bill d ey
__were die- tive ossonnom were notatingoppliea, the health and strength
=:o,paillts• uldall w" nelk • Wilk hell. 'w and eyelid* ef Embers must inevitably 'offer. All
Obi 0.. I. prili.al over I" matey, hat • within the wale was sufferers equally with nenehms,
:NI %Shama tisszri—
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tied 1117--greevestbleep.b,llo: whether sonalla eedeettn, or the lady visitors. Ice
lie *Wes, It wee &whitely necessary that the mad-
Se bare be mil& spa le semiller. H• ,sale it • woo sal gahtime sheedd be placed under to remota.
MOM, areal didinalVibad_•_n finatilla nd Sim Mid am. d sills
peens. 'WA the new of carrying oat this plan,
ho Weft* es cwt 41;b00,01 =9 IPPOini of las aaadano sad ebilidelog the immediate correction of the =ore
=sod up wkii wake a& ether mho= se a primate Mr. Osberue moved three reeds-
setae°. sad 60.„1"..110000____._4601•818b_. it ha 4112_,±,_
__it"' W=lhigrageirilling Dr. Reid to eerreet temporarily
of mind 'n "'nun • stem unrana =8:0010", the owe pogisseavesi•eie ; the meet that the VOW
Sowed of wild that MINIM mid &kb tgodos old be plead saw one pees& ; sad,
ouch a MIMS?, required. The Um. swabs, ffse Um- 2, goo Dig be wool to mks a report spat the
ambits. had inferred that die bill applied entirely to the of mutilation mail IlailiMag.
rola. 611111""b"ler sail dam ',lt Ha raatad that. Ilk Ait— MOTOR sommiel the eleptiom of the re-
-able appeared ea thi face of the sill; bat when his M. oistkoo‘
&teed tad bilb that a system of &moles. le**ll a Lead SITMOUR eater& Ishe blahs to thaw the
Spies of sweaty and import's= was to be *a mei swum already konoosog la oomint at the
400.000 people. lie would eat hits whither the alr ;altitudes et the beildiege. Betteme Mr. Nov sad
its &optima would met prejsdp the whole , De. Rail ISMS& Wesbe emposied. Of that saes,The WA, teed, the Prime Itiaisew. had alk— ilia 67,SSM. had bees Wen& kb watllmtlag the Gam.
that the %swam si Palliawastall ladle= diaPawd eft meme bmesamia. ta• einaska at Dr. Reid. With most
the neat great meccas foe the oessideratio• of die to tbo Leeil Daywaras Waglibta„ till lately Hat
.Mraii amid in tie adwilidsa it tin Pelaldl- diet depeelmest bed oho bees wads &ramp of Dr. Reid.
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_my tEnd_6lo___TUri,nl at this „„... _
__bill wield
_ to ru .. be melt meorteio. Mr. Derry Wisp eve
MVO OM Wawa de pill= /0/11/1/14lawist1111101114 It which Di add mow him to do tit the way ep cwcyitreit
2= to him rd hi besseedie wee to this to&telg ioneotios. Loa Boman, mum' --d maw
It they adqpial kr Mosabarair Has mew pria- &swig that la many et his 'gamier, Dr.
dale of edeestirsorapperted by rates, a& hsedloil es • 'op not boon Amour mostogg. Loog swum,
spells 'Wpm bait es yot aka..' 0•••••••17. limo that the better coma weld he to lesee the
quite *tibiae& ill emit have some beariates the emmilor• Ia his (Lard Seymour's) leak ewe be wield avail
awned 00•••". In kis 119.1•1 SIM" r !WNW of the beet seised& emblems he meld posers
=Ley have ea edemas. bell repo& aw Copt FITZROY &pad the soggeolles, asd moved It
as it would be to propose as makshe seellemes- so on ononanont,
sigy miumillill. (Hear, hoar.) He shell, A Meg searereatlea meek same members Sift the
pit Os IsMies of the right Ma. gesalameaMnits= Fin op js,. gam soon a Dr. Rom . oomo
die be gbh lit the forme of the leen wadi peemit of the that moo atm *bony ao sago& in °a=
IS bekeLdbeemod as a wails gemodea. In lei antes of co La glom asemeget the WINS Is lie
Plierne Nib Os application ads lial.wial st all•PaVan we. end, Mr. NISIIIIiiiOII Me OS II
=alailsiift with tie esm es& they wove oe. gs woo, eider Oft •
to Odd to arguments whisk wan insdaihelbie sa aimmaireasamall as ong amid
a polite MK AO this ball was tee impeeleat to be so trolled : mamma to, 0,,0 ode of atm bohio My
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and those/me he put it to Me hes. Mead whether he 4.pt win taken.
would peed* ha whet might
totidy_ be called as
THE PRINTING COMMITTEE.
••••••all• "In a ThepBl4 6.1"11"16.4 ille Mr. C. LEWIS moved that the hilewieg be di. wed
ciples id vital public impertamee. ead:ter wei iajthat, if . .
committee," to assist Mr. Speaker is all masses whkh eir
'hie °Pi= of thimaucial peat Pablie I. Pniat. late to the pristiagkaseuted by order et die boom, seed
bills were anetwil to prevail. the or of the
coon. ry would bo throws lase teelladeapsollse • private he the Purim.. c't "lectinti "" ""*TIT Ihd Plain& ".
bill would swage discussion, ad by wad thus term and papers presented In perseease Of metlees made
one by as projedgs every great public question, so that hY °wish' of the beese," el's'. Me' °them° Lewis, sate
Robert Harry luAlis, Mr. Pusey, Ml. SIMS, Sir John
whea the been some to diocese each questions as public , .. '
itessuso obey yam lad thew mods completely tied
.1). . =so, N iscount shon, Mr. Jolla Or ace, Mr. Cardwell
=a tar. Loch. Three to be the quorum. Agreed to. '
A hetet wee se samosimallie delay, awl, that being his
W me braked& tai=g the runendinest THE INCOME TAX.
SPllleilheirialse. member he Mr. HUME, in accordance with an arrangement he had
Mr. c wpm. bow am mono the highest sods made with the Chancellor of the Esehcquer, moved the m-
ato die high& ability hi that bow would be sweat- I arpeintsnest of the select committee 'to inquire into the
rifYi. difisthe o mow, a coo kind on around. entirely i motet mode of messing end collecting the income sad
archaised. sod which is limeades were entirely opposed to
ass assigoe. As to the time, what time could be some, eo se to render th.• tax more equitable, Can be
men liteeemble for ea se sad full discussion than the 1 adopeelP9Party,' "'
and nominated the following members, viz., Mr.
second Woisseday is the mei= ? Then, if his right has. Haw, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Mr. Thomas
friend rested ea psis principle, let him wait until the bill Baling. Mr. Cobden, Mr. Denali, Mr. Hansoms, Mr.
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cc. dews itemthe ...matt.., when tho principle "add Henley, Mr. Vestry, Mr. Mackenzie Mr. James Wilson,
be deleted wleb all the meistasee ahead by the argument Mr. "Mei Mr. Roebuck. eel- 'LEWIS, Lord Harry
up stain. Ills eight hes. Mimi mil she as a bill affect. Vase, and Me Sather= Agreed to.
isg general edueation shoal/ set be posed he Manchester THE MUSEUM OF THE UNIVERSITY OF
alone. Had they had no stream* of the attempt to in- 1 EDINBURGH.
%palace a general education MB ? A orealse plan was Mr. HUME moved for returns "of the number of
brought is by the hon. member for Oldham, and was re- visitors admitted to the museum of the University of &lin-
iecteel became it excluded the religious principle. Again, • burgh in itch of the last ten years, stating the number that
in 18-1:3, the right honourable member for Ripon brought i paid for admimion and the r .te of charge fur each prson ;
in souther bill, supported by a strong government, and also, the total suns received in each year, and showing to
it met with a like suocees. The people of Manchester whom and for what purposes these moneys have been
now found that a whale generation of children had grown yearly paid; showing also the amount paid to each person
up in *comae and vice since the failure of that measure, in each year, and of the number of traitors admitted to the'!
snd now they said, let us prepare a hill adapted for Man- museum free of charge in each year, and by what authority
cheater dose, sad presented on their own responsibility. the free adiabatic were granted."—Agreed to.