The Express.
London, England, 1852-05-20 00:00:00

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ergs el the theseb. Fie deemersi Our@ thisth dim-
tie. wee the me* et rider a dair es the part of the
horn et the luM. Zs thou re seed lithe demands which
Mr. Cleresse bed reressuWl es bevies bees node by the '
@demise, stdemir Met they win d lbr inn a bill n
having se de re Se mere& be the Chunk el Bar
kad. or to dees twarrewary • the grows; sad le end
• series of desemens from the colones in support of thse
statement, Masi that the Bishop of Ca Tows led ex-
needy sesta •Um that he ody • creator rules
of action tor Ow arid ark, eedi would =en
separatism m a amid of superey. He e • Iss
&dazle( est la avail he am party te beer* the Mani
el Laird avail
derision the mernmey
the news, sad lie hrlseei Kr. Oleinse set le wend
with the bill. He sieved this the here drag se to the
ether emir of the day.
liir. ADDEBLEY whited le wane the edleurement of
the debate bmd_ _
The SPEAK= said he mould est do me till the amend-
ment Jost proposed was din ot.
Mr. GLADIPTONE mid he weld not now make his
reply,
had
is ass pert of his wen the right hoe. gentle-
ness had grimly reemeessted him. Be had spoken much
alt arm of the seetne—seid he wee slow to believe
that he . Olmistese) wished to impugn it, but expressed
• belief the bill would have that effect by dispensing
with the eel of supremacy and the declaration in the 36th
MOM The slight re. gesdasen had quoted the 7th
SWIM ef t NS, but he err' la the middle of the am-
Ossme; had he pews em Y rad have found that the par-
ties aired were required to take the oath of &Enlace,
Mieseelhe the Thirty-alas Attire, and declare their as-
sort end assent to the Book et Osmases Payer. ((fear,
hem) The Thirty-seventh Arden ef the dumb of Er-
rol Agreed the supremacy 415 the Ones in all causes,
adsmindeel or aivii—presissly the ire es is the 36th
mum The right he.. gesdemes most have overlooked
this pen dr bi 4 ft ha would est have made soak a mis-
npemerir. They it we aid that the oolesiets would
be embled le mike regulations for self-government without
try isle Ms the alswa, except in eases whore the para.
plias was asseomod. This was a part of the bill whir
night either be Wheeled or not.
54r J. PATINOTOS regretted that, f,r form's sake, he
had not read the whole of the elaume ; but what he had ma-
nned wee wollesshed7that_the bill dispensed with the

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oath of supremacy and the 313th eases. It wu no answer
to say that the articles in the Bonk of Common Prayer
contained a declaration of the Queen's supremacy. (Hear,
hear.)
Mr. OSWALD reminded the Colonial Secretary that the
form of ordination required the acknowledgment of the
Queen's supremacy.
Mr. ADDERLEY would support a measure which he
believed would remedy a practical grievance, and extend
to the church in the colonies that freedom of action which

was necessary to its efficiency.
Sir It. INGLIS believed the effect of the bill would be to
break up the church of England in the colonies into so
many distinct churches, without affording any security that
even the rubric and formularies of that church would be
retained. _ _

Mr. A. B. ROPE spoke in support of the bill, which he
said asserted the rights of conscience and pre free action
the church in tke colonies.

The ATTOUNEY-GENERAL remarked that there was
nothing in the existing law to prevent the clergy and laity
in the colonies from meeting together to make regulations
for the government of the church, if they thought proper to
do so; and beyond that, wiles@ the object of the bill were
to offset the complete separation of the church from the
state, it would be inoperative. With regard to the supre-
macy of the crown, he thought it better that it should be
guarded as at present by the oath, than by subscription to
the thirt7-nine articles, which experience had shown might
be explained away or interpreted in a non-natural sense.
Mr. BETHEL'. disputed the ground on which Mr.
Gladstone had founded the measure—vr., that the members
of the church of England in the colonies were subject to
disabilities in regard to their ecclesiastical affair from which
other religion, communities were free.
Sir W. P. WOOL) denied that the church in the colonies
was as free ar dissenting bodies, and instanced, in confirma-
tion of his view, the power which the colonial bishops pas-
ser to remove clergymen without appeal. In the United
States the church possessed synodical action, and the result
was most benefie
Mr. HORSMAN warned the Colonial Secretary that he
might possibly, in the attempt to establish equality in reli-
gious matters in our colonies, really increase the inequality
at present existing, and while maintaining the advantages
of state connexion avoid the necessary restrictions which
that connexion imposed.
Mr. GLADSTONE inquired if the right hon. gentleman
the Secretary for the Colonies would have any objection
to lay on the table of the house the correspondence
between the Archbishop of Canterbury and the Bishop et
Sydney ?
Sir J. PAKINGTON said that as the correspondence
was a prints one he could not undertake to lay it before
the house. _ _ _

The =Minuet was then carried without a division, and
the house proceeded to the other orders of the day.

COUNTY ELECTIONS POLLS BILL.
Lord R. GROSVENOR. moved the mesa reading of
this bill.

DENISON said that having had some experience
It county elections, he was satisfied that county electors
might be polled is see day. He had scarcely ever kaown
as instance where the result of the ant day's poll had been
reversed by the second day. A county election was always
• holiday, and gentlemen who were acquainted with the
manufacturing districts would acknowledge, as he did, the
evil effects of the second days election.
Mr. PACK' opposed the bill.
Col. MIMI P said the bill was &diagram to a civilised
community, and he hoped that the house would give a de-
cided negative to it.
Hr. W. BROWN thought the bill would be a great bene-
fit ft eounty constituencies, and he should therefore support
IS OM.

Kixo rupperted the bill.
Kr. B. OSBORNS *emit that every hon. seenher who
bad any wish to put an sod to the ortem of intimidation at
ems* elections would veto fee tide lin. To les SIM there
was so Inv tm= at essaresteerolisno TN Annk when
the wiffy whisk
=been given to the wed& wilids=lew dap be-
twain Mr. Ker sad the fiengwis of Leafonderry.
1/Ir. BILAIKBTON apposed the bW en the ground that if
afbial endidate were snide* WNW without notice on
the pilis day, then wesid be no time to carry out the

anrigunoista:
/h. PALMER thought this was an alteration which
ought toi he made at sum gam though he did not think
tbh the propor som
Aka moo routaiatto bona Mr J. Pakington, Lord B.
—mats, sad the Chancellor of the Exchequer,

The laves nal • asonsli thee.
LAYNOOTE COLLEOZ—(ADJOURNED DEBATE).
Oa tie media be the fat them actiountsseet of this debate
ME the lOds of Jump,

Yin CASIMILL said, as that was a day on which
aaaq kon. nwiabsrs thought that this house would not
anki, at any rate that it would be too near lta end to allow
et as investigation of this nature to be carried out, he
wished W know what were the real intentions of those who
had imeleatod the /106.11.

NIWDIGATI mid that se hie boa. selbegue (Mr.
ligessor) bed met with at widest, he bad desired him to
Meta Mr of this ramie& For this purpose he
had made and ea her Majesty's pressmen, Gould
set pm Ma • ther spoially kr the prpmee—prosical
sta=rhued dui AM' lith of June wee the ant day
hie mein mull be Weight froward with a
view to Jimmies. As this was $ pudew es which the
country ins desissus el aleMbig the daisies of the holm
in the kelt alibi sestina Isfel Were it, he had felt himself
homed to Is timmoorral of the debate for that day.
Levi S. ffitiffitiffiLL said that timing the debate for so
late a pried wee, he thought, a mere mockery. If there
woe to he so bquivy IBM Me gelem of education pursued
at Mayseeth, it melt sot be by a ommaiitilo, which could
not einumence its witting heffire the 18th of June, and
could sot (mations them lager than a few days.disregard He
=this wee treating tle tios with g,
lisped that tithe t= add set bet brought on
mere, that it would set brought on at ell. He himself
was not opposed to Inquiry on this subject, but still he
Meld not say that he was prepared to vote for the motion of
the boa. geatlemem, for it was one thing to propose to in-
=abeam the mama of education at the College of
was weir it ought to be supported by a
grant, and another thing to question
Clergitory mends on which the grant was made.
Ho thought the inquiry would be much better instituted by
the government, according to the powers which they pee-
Isnot He regretted that the epos* of the right hon. gen-
esis= the Home aserstary bad set bees more explicit as to
the istemliese el gessamest es the west of the May-
wroth past, sad be hoped that by the thee this debate was
renewed they weld have made up their minds on the sub-
ject, and be prepared to tell the house whether or not they
meant to proposes the abrogation of this grant.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
the government had no intention of proposing the abroga-
tion of the pant to Maynooth ; nor had anything fallen
from any member of the government calculated to raise any
soak treposmies. He himself was not inclined to concur in
the pease kr the inquiry which had been given by
the boa maser, although he did think it desirable that on
inquiry shiseld be made, end that too in the manner now
proposed, aid he considered there were great objections to
the mode of a royal commission as proposed by the noble
lewd Vas. With regard to the government not having
gran a speeific day for the resuming of the debate, he
thought that the prow of business which they had at present
was a sufficient answer.
Mr. 11. 031301,NE said that there was no motion Seed

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TM Bta►aaa adjourned the boom moNI logmevroM