The Express.
London, England, 1863-02-27 00:00:00

THE PRODUCTION OF DESPATCHES.-THE
AFFAIRS OF ITALY.

In reply loth, Marquis of NORKANBY,
Earl RU-U,E1.1. said if the noble marquis wished to have
the despatches from which he made quotations the other
evenine he bed no objection to their immediate prediction,
and therefore. they should be laid upon the table to-morrow.
No doubt it was in conformity with the rale referred to that
despatches tkat were quoted from should be produced, bat
it was not always followed, for he remembered an occalitm
when a f0..-wer Chancellor of the Exchequer quoted from a
despatch al his (Earl Russell's) which was never produced
at aIL If e was rather surprised that his noble friend should
he so co annually harping upon the quotations from bin
despate bee, for be thought they were as creditable to
bim as anything which happened during his diplomatic
career. 'it was very natural that in reference to the
Trench erecup•tion of Rome the English government should
make representations in favour of national liberty. If they
were well taken, they produced good ; if not, they reflected
so discredit upon the English government. No doubt there
was a peat difference between the position of the French
sod English governments with respect to this question.
With respect to the question relating to some despatches
from Carffinal Antonelli to M. Chigi he could only 'tato
that he (Earl Russell) was not at all responsible for what
Cardinal Antonelli might have written to the Papal Nuncio
at Paris, and what had appeared in the papers be wax
ignorant of, excepting that to which his noble friend
had called his attention. The statement made
waathat he (Earl Russell) had written a letter to Mr. Odo
Russell to the effect that the Pope ought to leave Rome,
and that if be did not comsat to do so he would be obliged.
He (Earl Russell) never expected the Pope would leave
Rome knowing that as the Emperor of the French had
changed his Foreign Secretary he did not intend to give up
the occupation of Rome. Therefore it was not true that he
felt disappointed that the Pope did not accept the advice of
Mr. lido Russell, and it was also not true that
he (Earl Russell) had written a letter to that effect.
His noble friend had asked what business this country bad
of an attache' at Turin who was to go to Rome. In the
first place, Mr. Russell was not an attaché at Turin. There
was first a question of his being an attaché at Florence, and
afterwards st Naples ; but ea the Grand Duke of Tuscany
and the King of Naples had withdrawn from their respec-
tive territories, of coarse be could no longer be an attaché
at these court& Cardinal Antonelli inquired of Mr. Rummell
in what character he was at Rome, and be made some ob-
servation to the effect that as the King of Sardinia was an
excommnniested sovereign it would not be agreeable to
the court of Rome to reoeive theattachr of an embassy from
Turin. Under these circumstances he (Earl Russell), in order
to accommodate the Roman government in that respect, had
made Mr. Russell an attache to the Foreign-office direct?
If Mr. Russell had spoken to Cardinal Antonelli upon state
affairs it was in consequence of Cardinal Antonelli having
repeatedly spoken to him with reference to Roman affairs
in the most confidential manner—informing him of course''
that there was nothing official ia his communications.
The Earl of DERBY said that the noble earl had not
answered the important ponies of the osneMion which had
been put to him. His noble friend had not asked him to
produce a despatch from Cardinal Antonelli—which of
course be could not do—bat whether he had any reason to
know that Cardinal Aatoaslli, in a despatch to Monsieur
Chigi, had declared that the representation made by Mr. Odo
Russell was incorrect with respect to what had taken place ;
and that so much inconvenience had, in cosesquence, arisen
that Mr. Russell was not to be recognised in any otitis'
capacity,. and wee merely to be considered as a private per-
ton haying no more authority than any other private indi-
vidual. The question really was whether a person accre-
dited by the British government, and charged by them to
speak in their name, was not to be so received, but was merely
to be regarded as a private individual.
Earl RUSSELL mid that he had of course received no
communication from Cardinal Antonelli, and could only
have derived such information as that referred to by a des-
patch from Mr. Russell No such despatch had been re-
ceived ; Mr. Russell had forwarded no statement to that
effect.

The ooaversation they dropped.
PUBLIC GARDENS IN TOWNS PROTECTION BILL,
This bill was read a weed tires.
ENGLISH SERVICES IN WALES BILL.

On the motion of the Bishop of BANGOR, this bill
pasted through committee.

THE UNIVERSITY OF DURHAM.
The Bishop of EXETER slated that the ordbanOes pre-
pared by the University of Durham Commissioners bad
been laid upon the table of their lordship' house 16 days
before the close of last semis& Under the maritime of
an act of parliament this, ordinances, if not objected to
within 40 days, were to be smarmed, and to acquire the
force of law. The question stone on the construction of
the act whether the 40 dsys skald not be wonted from
the oommeecenteetel.thejerrete session, as the PrF°-

=had the effect of perte an end to sierything- which
plass hi perhament s of en act of parliament.
Tbs LORD CHANCELLOR said that the question raised
by the Right Rev. Prelate was one of considerable import-
ance. He was of opinion that the forty days must be takes
ft mean forty session days ; injustice might otherwise result,
if ordinances were laid on the Labile & few days before the m-
esas, and were, by lapse of time, confirmed at • period when
an opportunity of objectiog to them could sot be afforded.
That the forty days should be continuous session days,
would, however, require stronger expresions than were to
be found is the statute.

The Bishop of EXETER then gave notice that to-morrow
(this day) being the last of the forty days is the
came, he should move their lordships that an address
pre-
sented to her Majesty, praying her 361,11115i7 to withhold her
confirmation from the ordinances of the Commissioners of
Durham University.
Their lordships adjooroed at ten 'Monks to six o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—Tarrastuy, Fmk 26.
The SPIAXLIt took the char at four o'clock.
NEW ME ES&

Mr. 8111/10171 took the Gees and his met for Lisburn, in
the roan of Mr. Richardson, retired.

PRIVATE BIJEINESS.

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The following bills were read a second time :—Athenry
and Ennis Juoctiou Railway (Abandonment); Birmingham
sad Sotto. Coldfield Este Mos Railway ; Private Telegraph
Company; and Stockport District Water Bills.
MARRIAGE LAW, IRELAND.
Mr. P. DAWSON gave notice that on going into mar
mittee of supply tomorrow (this day) he should bring before
the home the anomalous and unoertain position of the
ww,mairs law of btlaad, so es to produce uniformity of laws,
and secure a proper registration of marriages.

FRENCH AND ITALIAN 00/111KRCIAL TREATY.
Mr. W. E. FORSTER pre wake for this day of his in-
tenta to mak whether the Foreign-office were in possemion
of IL copy of the commercial treaty between Franco and
Italy now waiting the ratification of the Italian chamber ;
and a copy of the Italian tariff ; whether, if they were in
possemion of both, the Mader Secretary for Foreign Affairs
was prepared to ley them on the table ; and if they had
not got them, whether he was aware that several days ago
they were laid upon the table of the Italian chamber by
the Italian minister. (Hear.)
THE CASE OF PATRICK BOURKE.

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Lord J. BROWNE asked the President of the Poor-law
Board whether, in the promised inquiry into the circum-
stances attending the removal of Patrick Bourke from Leads
to Westport, be had taken any steps to secure the attend-
ance of a representative of the Irish Poor-law Commis-
sioners.

Mr. VILLIERS replied that the day after the noble
lord brought the matter before the house he received the
papers connected with the sul, from Ireland, end sent them
forthwith to the guartliansat Leda for their explanation. He
bad only that day received their answer. They took isms
upon almost every fact stated in the topers, and stated that
they were perfectly reedy to enter into the fullest investi-
gation of the case, and to assist in every way in laying
before the board the whole of the fade. It would be open
to the noble lord to see their answer, and be might then de-
termine for himself whether any inquiry was mammy ; but
tie ordinary course wee to direct an Inspector to proceed to
the spot sad hold an open inquiry into the matter in goes-
Con. If that were done it would be in the power of the
noble lord to send to any parson be might think proper to
attend and wale& the inquiry, or take such part in it as be
might think necessary. It the noble lord thought further
Inquiry nocemary, he (Mr. Villiers) would direct notice to
be sent to him and to the Poor-law Conimissimers in Ire.
land of the plea and the day where the further inquiry
should take place.

PATTERN POST TO ODD!. AND HONG KONG.
Colonel SYKES asked the Secretary to the Treasury on
what grounds British manufacturers and others .ere prohi-
bited from transmitting to India sod Hong Kong specimens of
textile fabrics of British manufacture under the book post
rsetrictio-a, as they were permitted to transmit them to
Treece sod elsewhere.

---- F. PEEL paid that, with the single exception of Prams,
as to which special arrangements...ere made in the beginning
of 1861, the Post-oince did mot undertake to carry, under the
=B:relating to book post, specimens of teiiile
ny other trade patterns. fie had Do doubt that
a general adoption of the principle would be bene6cial to
commeroe. but he was told that there were considerable
ddEculties in the way, and it must depend upon the posinbi.
lily of overioining those diffacultuts whether a pattern post
could be introduced.

REGISTRATION OF ASSURANCES.
In reply to Sir E GIoOAS,
Sir R. PEEL said tbat the government bed PmFund
bill on tine subject, and Saw proposed to ask lea,* to intro-
duce it immediately.

THE LICENSING 'warm.
mg. LAWSON imiquired se thit Seerelary of Stab Ire Ur