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also the powers vested in the Crown by the Act of Parlir
meat we have referred to, and that your Majesty will issue-
accordingly an Order in Council, placing the ships of non•
reciprocating countries "on as nearly as possible the same
footing in British ports as that on which &Also ships are
placed in the ports of such countries."
In urgently soliciting your Majesty to adopt this course,
we emphatically protest against any attempt to connect our
application with any consideration of disputed systems of
general commercial policy. The relief we could hope
from your Majesty's gracious acquiescence would, we are
too well aware, be but scanty and insufficient, but the im-
partial administration of the laws is an act of simple jos-
hes which it is natural we should claim ; and we venture,
therefore, respectfully to submit to your Majesty that
longer to withhold from an important, an aggrieved, and a
sufieriog interest the alleviation, however slight, which the
law has provided, would be an aggravation of what that
interest has always regarded as au undeserved and im-
politic injury. Tt is satisfactory to as that if we should
resolve to seek further redress, it will be to the Legislature
we shall have to urge our claims, and that we shall not
have occasion again to intrude, as we now do with great
reluctance, personally on your Majesty. But, meantime,
Parliament having been pleased to vest in your Majesty
exclusively the power to afford the measure of relief we
seek, we appeal with confidence to a Sovereign among
whose strongest claims to the attachment of a loyal and
devoted people will ever be recognized her uniform anxiety
to dispense impartial justice, to redress proved wrong,
and graciously to listen with readiness and attention to
every reasonable remonstrance of her injured or suffer•
ing subjects.

MESSRS. BRIGHT AND GIBSON AT MAN-
CHESTER AND EDINBURGH.

ON Friday evening, December the 10th, a soirée was
given to the Right Hon. T. M. Gibson, M.P. for
Ashton.under-Lyne, and Mr. John Bright, M.P. for
Birmingham, " for the purpose," in the terms of the
announcement issued by the committee who base
conducted the arrangements, " of congratulating the
hon. member for Birmingham on his restoration to
health ; to celebrate the return of himself and his
;ate colleague (the Right Hon. T. M. Gibson) to
Parliament for the boroughs of Birmingham and
Ashton ; and to thank them for their patriotic con-
duct during the last session of Parliament, as well
as for their long and faithful services as represents-
tire' for this city." The soirée was held in the
magnificent Free Trade-hall, erected to commemo-
rate the triumphs of the Anti-Corn Law League, to
which both the hon. gentlemen so materially con-
tributed.

Letters were read from Lord J. Russell, M.P., Mr.
Cobden, Mr. C. P. Villiers, 11. P., and Mr. L. King,
M.P., and other influential members of the House
of Commons, apologizing for their inability to attend
the meeting.
The following resolutions were moved and
seconded, and carried by acclamation :
That this meeting presents to John Bright, Esq., M.P.,
its respectful and cordial congratulations on his restora-
tion to health, and expresses its devout gratitude that he
is thereby enabled once more to devote his great energy
and eminent abilities to the service if the people.
That this meeting records its high satisfaction at the
return to Parliament, by important constituencies, of the
Right Hon. Thomas M. Gibson, M.P., and John Bright,
Esq., M.P., and hereby tenders its warmest thanks to the
electors of Birmingham and Ashton-under•Lyne, for the
obligation they have conferred upon the nation by revers•
mg a shameful verdict, and restoring those gentlemen to
the House of Commons.

That this nicedm/expresses its admiration of the
honest, consistent, disinterested, and patriotic conduct of
the right hon. member for Ashton-under-Lyne, and the
hon. member for Birmingham, during the whole course of
their political connection with this city; thanks them most
warmly for their public services on behalf of political,
commercial, and religious freedom ; and renews its earnest
hopes that they may long be spared to labour for the ad-
vancement of the best interests of the British empire.

Mr. GIBSON, who was received with loud cheers,
after expressing his sense of the honour now paid to
him, proceeded to comment on the late speech of
Mr. Lowe :—Mr. Lowe said he expressed one very
confident opinion—be was very sure, he said, that
nobody wanted Reform; that universal apathy pre-
vailed, and that there was indifference among all the
classes of society into which he entered as to the
proposals that had been made to reform the repro.
seotation of the people. Now, the people of England
were a business people; they bad their daily occupa-
tions. Men could not be constantly leaving their daily
avocations for the purpose of promoting political
measures, and it did no, follow that they must be
sincerely desirous for changes that were proposed,
and that their opinions might not be deeply founded.
Mr. BRIGHT, who then addressed the meeting,
merely reiterated the topics of his Birmingham
speeches in such sort as to render any consecutive
analysis unnecessary. Mr. Bright said, among other
things
Now, what is it that T propose ? That every house-
holder, of course, because every householder is rated to
the poor, shall have a vote; and if a man be not a house-
holder strictly, but if be have an office, or a warehouse, or
a stable, or land—Sf ha hay, any property in his oecapatiou

which the poor-law taxes—out of which he mnst con-
tribute to the support of the poor, then, I say, 1 would
give that man a vote. Now, sixty years is a long time.
We have members of the aristocracy of this country ex-
}Hnting themselves frequently on platforms on various
occasions. They toll the people how wonderfully educa-
tion has advanced, how much Parliament grants every
year, how much voluntary effort does, what a great step
the people have taken forward. I wish they would come
to the legitimate conclusion after all this praise of the
people. Your statisticians may that 2,000,000 of the
people are subscribers to benefit societies, and that they
have now for funds more than 9,000,01,01. sterling. Is that
no proof of providence? Is that no proof of improvement
and advancement? Who is the man that dares stand
before any considerable number of his countrymen and
libel them by saying that that which Mr. Grey, that
which Charles James Fox, advocated for you in 1791, you
are still so turbulent, so degraded, that you are not fit to
be trusted with in the year 1858? And, of course, with
regard to your small borough, you must take some point of
population, and you must cut off all those belm.v it; yon
must allow their present electors to merge, as they would
necessarily merge, in the 101. franchise, which, in all pro-
bability, you establish for your counties. Bot still I know
exactly how we shall be met—" Yon are going to Alum
ncanize ns." Nothing is so dreadful to an Englishman
who is thinking of emigrating across the Atlantic as that
we should be Americanized in England. That is a phrase
hi: some cunning knave intended to catch • good many
silly dupes, and no doubt it will catch some of them ; but
I should like to ask these gentlemen whether representa-
tion is is not an English custom and an English principle.
They were Englishmen who first took it to the United
hates. It is said that wherever an Englishman g :es, just
at; he takes with him his white skin he takes with him
the foundation of representative institutions. He has
taken them already to the Cape; he is already as busy as
possible in building up four or five monarchical republics
in Australia; he has carried the representative system to
Canada; he carries it wherever he goes. Why, the Bill of
1832 was a desperate measure in the direction of Ameri-
canizing us. It took some boroughs where twelve members
of a corporation returned the members to Parliament, and
it gave the suffrage to come 5,000 of the people. Was not
that Americanizing such boroughs with a vengeance?
The more yon extend your representation the more, of
course, you become like that systematic and theoretically
perfect representation which exists in the United States.
Why, we have come now to a pretty pass in this country,
and it is curious how free countries, and conwries that we
deem not free, often exhibit just the same kind of thing at
the same time. You know that lately a most distinguished
Frenchman wrote a pamphlet about a debate in the English
Parliament. He was charmed with the fterdom of debate,
with the absence of all kind of difficulty in expressing our
opinions. He went away full of this impression; and he
wrote a pamphlet, in burning words, describing what he
had seen in England, and by inference, of course, saying
something that was not very palatable to those who are
the present directors of the Government in France. 11 ell,
what was done? It was found out that it was an indictable
offence, and the advocate for the prosecution said in so
many words, "You praised England, and in doing so you
humiliated France." An humble individnal like myself
comes before his constituents, and he finds a nation of
twenty or thirty millions, chiefly Englishmen, on the other
side of the Atlantic. He finds there, with some
small exceptions in two or three of the Trans-
atlantic cities, which are more German and Irish
than American, in all the free States laws and
order and security for property equal to th.t which is
found in any other country in the world. He says that
to his constituents; be is indicted for it; they do not
inflict upon him so many pounds fine and so many
months' imprisonment, but some scores of writers for
the press, men who, some of them, pretend to be in
favour of liberty in England, but men who, if they were
dressed in the garb that most becomes them, would be
dressed in plush ; these men assail me, and, probably, if
were in France and they were in France also, would
do their best to indict and prosecute me. One word more
upon this.—l hm.e said over and over again that perhaps I
am the very last men in England who would propose any
institution here because I found it elsewhere. I am not
insensible to some things that appear to me to be errors
in principle—some that are errors in practice—in the
constitution and tile customs of the United States, but I
protest against our being shut up to take nothing from
America but cotton, and rice, and tobacco, aud, in fee-,
we do take a good many other things. . .
I cannot, of coarse, help the fact that Lord Carlisle for
a moment has fallen into rather a foolish panic since I
undertook to address my constituents at Birmingham. I
can assure him that I do not wish to introduce American
institntions here, but I want to argue this point, that the
people of England are n( w in a cordition in which it
would be just to them and safe fur all classes in the
country that they should be widely intrusted with the
possession of the elective frranchise. Now, I want to ask
you before i sit down whether we can realize or whether
we can do anything towards realizing such a project of
Reform as tl.at of which I have given yon the very
faintest sketch to-night. There is a danger awaits us. It
is quite possible,—l think it is not entirely improbable,
that if the present Government should introduce a bill
very ineffectual, wholly falling short of what we have a
right to expect, t itit there should be some combination of
the most Unworthy portion of the Whig party with the
present Government for the sake of (-timing that bill.
It would be • grist misfortune to us if any such thing
should happen. But that misfortune would be but tem-
porary. It would be a fatal act on the part of the V.
pats, to take anj such eeur.e as that. They would bring
&Isola this great result. that the aristocracy, who were
wholly opposed to free Parliaments in this country, would
sit on one side of the house, and that we, who may be
mmaldered of a more democratic party, would take oar

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seats on the other; but I will undertake to say disc if
that division should once take place in Parliament, every
election would increase the power of the democratic
section, and that the remembrance of the treason to the
people which would be effected by conduct ruch as this
would create an animosity against the ruling class, against
which I believe they would be wholly unable to contend.
I have now come to the conclusion of the observations I
intend to offer you upon these questions. Of myself I
must add one or two words. My posilon in reference to
this question is just now, u you know, one of heavy
revonsillihty. I feel it to be so,—l know it be so. I
have been requested by those who believad they repre-
sented a large amount of public opinion to undertake the
preparation of a hill to be submitted to the House of
Commons during the coming session. I have not sought
the office. I did everything I could to decline it without
being guilty of an absolute desertion of what appeared to
be my duty. I am told by some that are not friends of
mine, and some that are my friends tell me, that I hazard
whatever little reputation I have with the public In
taking this course. If it be so I an only say that t►e
creation or the sustaining of a reputation has never been
the great motive in my poLtical life. I have said before,
and every de) I am more sensible of it, how ill-qualified
I am in many respects for the work I have undertaken,
and I am more and more sensible of the almost insur-
mountable obstacles which lie in the path before me ; but
I know that the cause is a just cause. I know that its
success is necessary to the great future of this country,
and I am perfectly certain that sooner or later it must
prevail. From this platform Ido not speak to you only.
I speak to all my oonntrymen. If they wish for Reform,
if they think me honest, informed, capable upon this
piestion,—if they bave any confidence in those with
whom I am associated, then let them meet in their cities,
their towns, their villages, in country parishes, even where
free speech is not forbidden. Let them meet and speak,
let them resolve, and let them petition. If they do this I
think I con promise them that before long they will be in
full possession and in the free exercise of those political
rights which are not more necessary to their national
interests than they are consistent with the principles of
their boasted constitution.
The hon. gentleman sat down amid hearty and long-
continued cheering. His speech occupied about
an hour and twenty five minutes in its delivery.
Ls soon as Mr. Bright concluded a very general
move from the hall commenced.

Mr. Alderman SIMPSON was unwilling that the
organization now established should pass away with-
out Manchester showing that example to the country
which it bad shown in past times, and which had
produced for these islands. great, important, and
valuable results. He therefore moved,—
That the meeting, composed of the leading and active
Reformers of Manchester and its neighbourhood, hereby
expresses its desire that a Retwm Association should be
at once organized fir the purpose of giving effect to the
opinions of this county and district on the question of
Reform in the agitation now existing ; that the Banquet
General Committee be, and is hereby requested, to take
the necessary steps for carrying out the preceding repo•
lotion.

A short time ago there was an attempt to establish
a Reform Associatbn here, but it was limited in its
object, contracted in its sphere, and promised always
to be small and select, never great and powerful ;
but the constituency had it in their power, from the
large organization to which this resolution was
committed, to have such a Reform Association as
would represent the opinions of the great maws of the
constituency. Reflect what a powerful answer it
would be from auy Prime Minister to be able to say
to Mr. Bright, when he brought in his bill, that the
voice of Manchester was silent on the question.
Many recent events showed that a change had taken
place in this city, that the parties to the rejection of
the late members were endeavouring to attach them•
selves!to their old friends, that they sought repentance
carefully and with tears; he would give to them the
opportunity of reunion, and he believed that the
resolution, if passed, would he enthusiastically
received by the great body of reformers here.
The motion was seconded by Mr. EDWARD WATICIN,
and carried unanimously.
Mr. GIBSON moved, and Mr. &war seconded, a
vote of thanks to the Chairman, which was carried
by acclamations, and the meeting separated with
" three cheers for Gibson, Bright, and Cobden."
On Wednesday evening Mr. Bright addressed a
large meeting at Edinburgh on the same subject.
He suid : They were not conspirators—they had no
secret societies, and their correspondence was not
opened at the Home .office. They had no object but
to discuss the question in great meetings like this.
They wanted to extend the political rower of the
people. In so doing they must necessarily diminish
the political power of certain small classes in the
country. There was a time when the Crown in Eng-
land was absolute, and fiom adherence to absolutism
one English monarch came to an unpleasant end,
and another was driven away ; but the question
between tile Crown and the people had been settled.
They did not now propose to limit the power of the I
Crown, but they did propose to limit the power of
the aristocratic classt a, and to do that, not by injuring
them, but by atlosing public intell*eee, public A
interests, and pub:ic virtue to play their part in the
legislation of the country. Tbey poperld thiply

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•-1-0 of the Act of I again dernsnded, and it was fixed to take place on members of an illeb
the 12th of January and other days. A half•yearly were taken in the tow_
`its rate of 2s. 61. a share was then Killarney.
L is a

to carry a little further the principles of the Act of
1832. After some remarks as to burghs to be dis-
frauchise.l and seats to be reapportioned, Mr. Bright
adverted to the Times newspaper, whice he contrasted
with the Great Eastern tossing about in the Bay of
Biscay without compass or chart ; but said that, as the
Times usually went with the stronger, the moment it
found the people in earnest it would be as zealous
and as entirely with them as it was in 1832. The
Times had asked him why he did not produce the
details of his bill ; but, though itself professing to
be a great public instructor, it had never put the
clauses of its oast bill into a leading article, and it
bad never asked Lord Palmerston when he was in
office to explain the exact clauses of his bill. All he
could promise the Times a•as that whenever he spoke
on the subject he should make his audience under-
stand what wer3 the principles be thought should
guide any measure of parliamentary reform. He then
alluded to Mr. Newdegate's challenge to him on the
subject of county representation. That gentleman
was laborious in statistics, but most feeble and con-
fused on any question of principle:. He asked that
gentleman if he knew anything of the constitution of
the House of Lords, or of the original objects of the
hereditary peerage. Now, he should like to ask this
question—Did tie House of Lords represent the land
and tenantry on their land, or did they only represent
their own individual interest? If the former, what
came of the question of county representation' If
the latter, on what ground were •100 individuals to
set themselves up against the will of 30.000,000, and
reject year after year, as they had done, beneficent
and excellent measures passed by the representatives
of the people—a veto which for 150 years the
monarchy bad not ventured to exercise ? The views
of Mr. Newdegate would compel a complete change
in the constitution of the House of Lords, and the
Lords were at this moment sufficiently severed from
the people in political opinion, as was shown in the
fact that not even a single Liberal peer had come
forward to sympathize with them in their present
movement. But suppose Mr. Newdegate's views
were carried—the party in the House of Commons
which sympathize with the House of Lords made
much more numerous and powerful—what would be
the result! It might not come in a day, but with
the Lords and the majority of Commons separated
from the political opinions of the people, as the
House of Lords now was, the estrangement would
become greater, and they would be on the high road
to changes in their political institutions which cer-
tainly he did not wish to see, but which those who
called him rash and innovating would tremble even
to think of. " I have come to Scotland deputed to
ask whether you will join this movement, and when
I recollect your history, and when I think of your
character, and when 1 see the thousands who are
here to-night, I feel beyond dispute that I shall not
ask in vain."
Mr. Bright was throughout heard with great atten-
tion, and was frequently and warmly applauded.
Mr. PRICE, secretary of the London Reform Asso-
ciat►on, then addressed the meeting ; after which the
CHAIRMAN made a few remarks.
A resolution pledging the meeting to the principles
of Mr. Bright's measure was proposed rod carried.
Thanks to Mr. Bright and the chairman concluded
the proceedings.

again dernended, and it was fixed to take place on
the 12th of January and other days. A half•yearly
dividend at the rate of 2s. 61. a share was then
agreed to.
THE ATLANTIC TELEGRAPH COMPANY held a
general meeting on Wednesday. The report stated
that defects existed at both ends of the cable, and
that it would be necessary either to unkicrrnn or to
raise it. The Directors had applied to the Govern-
ment to guarantee the remaining portion of their
capital before it was called up in the same manner
that they had guaranteed the Red Sea telegraph.
The chairman, Mr. Stuart Wortley, strongly urged
the adoption of this course on the part of the Govern-
ment. The report was unanimously adopted. Mr.
Whitehouse, the Company's former electrician,
announced that a second company had been formed,
and that half of its capital had been paid up. He
said he was ready to state the terms upon which the
new Company was prepared to amalgamate with the
old. It was agreed that Mr. Whitehouse's proposi-
ian should be submitted to the Directors.

Mr. MusxErr, the assistant surgeon at St. Pancras
Workhouse, in the execution of his ditties, effected
the ruin of some young females under his care ; and
to prevent the consequent exposure and punishment
of his conduct had recourse io means for procuring
abortion, which resulted in the removal of one of the
unfortunate girls to the infirmary. Upon this the
delinquent took to flight, and remained some time in
a place of concealment. While there he took the
resolution of sending for the chaplain of the work-
house, the Rev. Thomas Pugh, in order to unburden
his mind to him. He accordingly confided his ad
dress to the rev, gentleman under the seal of confi-
dence, and shortly after received a ministerial visit
from him. The visit took place on the Saturday. On
the Sunday the matter got bruited through the parish,
and on Monday a Mr. Wyatt summoned the rev.
visitor to appear before him at the workhouse, in
order to give up the address of the offending medical
officer, and to communicate any other information
in relation to the guilty person. Mr. Pugh refused
to afford the intelligence desired, and was dismissed
from his post in consequence. It appears that the
rev. gentleman had first obtained an interview with
his vicar, the Rev. Canon Dale, who is also the rural
dean and the proper authority to afford advice in such
a juncture. Mr. Dale, it appears, recommended a
firm resistance to the demand of the board. Two

members of an illegal society. Nine of the prißoners
were taken in the town of Kenmare, and four in
Killarney.

gab) an Volict.

SCULLY V. INGRAM.—In this Case steps have been
taken on the part of the defendant to obtain a new
trial—a motion for which will be made in the
ensuing term, in January nest. No public reference
will therefore be made to the circumstances connected
with it, which will be fully detailed is the course of
future legal proceedings.

THE TOMAN DESPATCHES.
Wednesday morning being specially appointed for
the trial of William Hudson Guernsey, of 20,
Regent.square, who stood charged with having felo•
niously stolen, taken, and carried away certain
printed papers containing despatches from Sir John
Young, with inclosures, the property of our Lady the
Queen, the court was excessively crowded, and great
interest was manifested throughout the trial.

Shortly after ten the judge. Mr. Biron Martin, en
tered the court and took his seat on the bench, and
amongst the principal persons present were the Earl

of Carnarvon, &c.

The prisoner pleaded " Not guilty."
The Attorney-General, Mr. Sergeant Ballantine.
Mr. W. Welsby, Mr. Clark, and Mr. Gitrard appeared
on the part of the Crown.
Mr. Sergeant Parry and Mr. Metcalfe appeared for
the prisoner.
The Attorney-General in opening the case for the

prosecution proceeded simply to narrate the circum-
stances that came out in the examination, and which

are repeated in the evidence this day. The learned
counsel eaid be appeared there to discharge a very
painful duty, but the authorities felt bound to adopt
the c3urse they had. He would now proceed to
call the witnesses, who would prove the facts he hal
narrated.

Dim,Arm APPOISTMENTS.—We believethat the
following appointments in the diplomatic service will
be soon officially announced :—Lord Napier, at pre-
sent Minister at Washington, to succeed Lord Aber.
cromby as Minister at the Hague; Lord Lyons, at
present Minister at Florence, to succeed Lord Napier
as Minister at Washington ; the Hon. P. C. Scarlett,
now Minister at Rio Janeiro, to be Minister at Flo-
rence ; the Hon. F. R. Forbes, from Dresden, to be
Minister at Rio ; Mr. L. Augustus Paget, Secretary
of Legation at Berlin, to be Minister at Dresden.

barristers gave the same advice. The Rev. Dr. Sin-
clair, archdeacon of Middlesex, aad the Bishop of
London, on being appealed to, approved of the conduct
of the chaplain. Corroborated by all these testimo-
nials in support of the propriety of his behaviour,
the Rev. Mr. Pugh comes again before the board with
a respectful lett,r, requesting his restoration to office.
ROBERT JOHNSTON, the individual charged with
inhumanity towards his daughter, Frances, made a
public appearance in the City on Saturday afternoon,
and stated the case from his own point of view, and
in a way which impressed the audience in bis favour.
From the statement he made it appeared pretty
ev;dent that the magistrate who condemned him
had done so hurriedly, and, by refusing the applica-
tion for an adjournment of the investigation, had
prevented the defendant from calling evidence in his
favour. Of course, the defence which Johnson made
imputes bad conduct to his children, but what he
does say renders this so likely as to make one regret
the case is not re-heard. So much, indeed, is in-
volved in it that it is a great pity the defendant had
not the benefit of a jury. Before the meeting closed
he replied to a number of questions put to him by
the audience ; and the proceedings terminated with
the adoption of a resolution expressing the conviction
of the meeting that he had not recommended his
sons and daughters to lead a life of infamy.
THE SOUTH KENSINGTON MUSEUM was visited
during the week ending 11th December by 8,204
persons.

Mr. James Thomas Miller examined by the Attor-
ney General : I am now employed in the Colonial.
office as sub-librarian, and have been in the service
of the Colonial-office about twenty-three years:
I have been sub-librarian about three years. About the
month of September last I remember the despatches
being printed ; they were printed, by order of the
Secretary of State, at the private printing office. At
the Foreign-office they are kept in custody ,of the
librarian, or in his absence the sub-librarian. Mr.
Mayer is the librarian. There were twenty-eight
copies printed. I received them from Mr. Holding.
I placed them on my desk and placed a large folio
upon them. He afterwards saw them there. I took
my leave of Mr. Mayer about the 30th of September,
when he went fora holiday. Mr. Guernsey went to
South America, and returned about September in the
present year, after which he called upon me. Mr.
Guernsey was a trustee for me. I occupy the room
of the library alone, in the absence of Mr. Mayer.
Mr. Guernsey called frequently upon me there,
and we were in the habit of going out and dining
together. He asked me about obtaining a situation
in the Colonial Department, of which 1 approved.
He applied to Sir Edward Lytton, but his application
was unsuccessful. He was very much annoyed at it,
and afterwards he asked me to recommend him to
the War-office, which I did. Mr. Mayer returned
on the 23rd of October, and I gave up the charge of
this office to Mr. Mayer on the 25th. Mr. Guernsey
frequently called upon him. Sometimes he waited
an hour, sometimes an hour and a half. He was
frequently left alone in the room. Ou one occasion,
after I had left him alone, I came back and found
him near the table. He was near that part of the
table where the despatches were lying. He was
moving away from where the despatches were lying.
When I came in he said, smilingly, " I am not prying
into your secrets." I said, " I don't suppose for a
moment that you are." When I returned into the
room the prisoner was not in the same position as he
was when I lett it. Hs had removed from the Roil-
tion he then occupied. Lately he made an applica-
tion which was rejected, and he said that Sir Edward
Balwer Lytton would be sorry for it. He had some
conversation with me with regard to the political state
of South America. Mr. Guernsey had spoken tome
,
about some letters that appeared in the Daily Bates
about General Lopez ; has never told me that he
was acquainted with the editor of the Daily hews.
The letters produced are in the handwriting of Mr.
Guernsey.
Mr. Walker : I am principal editor of the Daily
News, and have been so about three months, and
have an office in Bouverie-street, and live in Doughty-
street. In November I received the envelope pro-
, duced with the papers, sealed with the seal that it
now bears. The piece was cut out and the direction
at the time. I opened the envelope and found a
letter.
The Attorney. General read the letter, which wai
, to the infect that he had forwarded something of

portance, which no other raper had go.