The Express.
London, England, 1852-05-22 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS.—FRIDAY, MAT 21.
The LOAD CHAttPETerLIMR took his seat at 5 o'clock.
ITION PRESENTED.
Tee CIVIL Color. IN INDIA.—Hy Lord CAMPBELL,
from Sir Charles Campbell, who hail been for many years
• member of the Indies Council, on the subject of the
Reformation of the Civil Code. The petitioner suggested
that universities should be astaalialted in India foe satires,
and also in this country, where net yes might study without
hoeing caste. Re should move that the petition be referral
to the commit,ce sitting upon the subject of the Macao' of
the East India Cvnepany's etsarter.--Agreed to.
Etd• • P ITY ROCEDURR BILL.
This hill was read pro/or/al • second time sad termed
to a saint eemmittao.
CIiANUE 01 GOVERNMENT IN SARDINIA.
Hut GRANVILLE wished to put 'question to the noble
earl opposite namely, whether had soy objection to
state to the how what was the meet recent information
which he had received on the subject of the late political
&images is the government of Sardinia. It was stated that
the Marquis deAseglio hail tendered his Isation to the
King, and sines that he had bees omunanded sgaia to fore
a goverment.
the Earl of MALMESBURY said that the intelligence
which his noble friend had received se to the Marquis
&Aurelio was perfectly correct; and be was sure that their
lordships on both sides of the house would rejoice to know
that on the 17th—a period subsequent to the resigostiun—
the marquis hail been tent for again by the King, and had
resumed the seal. of ether, his majesty giving him a ear:e
blanche to choose what ministers he pleased. (Hear, hear.)
He believed, from • despatch which he had seen, written
by his own hand, that he would gad ea difficulty in effect•
lag that object. (Herr, hear.) He could not sit down
without capering, on the part of the government, the
greet pleasure which this news had given to her Majesty's
geverameat. The Kiss seemed papered to uphold musti-
ly:tonal principles in his own dominicoss, end to give en
example awl a proof that there wee one other country be-
side. England in Europe which could prosper ander con-
stitutional government. (Hear, hear.)
'fie Marquis of LANSDOWNE had heard with plea-
rue what bad jest fallen from the noble earl. He
had for some p•ars observed the conduct of the Marquis
d'Aseglio, and he thought it his duty to make these obese-
ratites.
TILE WARNER INVENTIONS.
The Duke of WELLINGTON, puissant to notice, rose
to move, .4 that an humble address be presented to her
Majesty, praying that her Majesty will be pleased to give
dinictsuas that there be laid before this house copies or ex-
tracts of any report made to the Master-General of the
Ordnance on the subject of the inventions of Mr. Warner."
He had to apologise to their lordships fur not being pre-
art when the noble earl opposite brought forward his mo-
tion fur referring to a committee of their lordships house
the inventions of Mr. Warner. II he hod been in the house
be should have represented to their lordships that the sub-
ject was already under the consideration of the government,
sad the Master General of the Ordnance, in consequence, he
believed, of an address from the Howe of Commons, but,
at all events, at the particular desire of three of tie Mt*
principal ministers of her Majesty -Lord Granville, Lord
John Ito sell, sad another member of the late cabinet. The
subject was under inquiry in the office of the Master-General
of the Ordeal:me, sad being one of • very ecientific nature
it was nut exactly • subject for inquiry before • committoi
of their loeslehipo" housemore particularly as the result was
intended to be, if succesoful, the expenditure of a verylarge
suns of money. There were a great many speculators upon
it, and Urge sums had been advanced to this gentlemen ia
the hope that he would receive • large reward from the
government foe these ioventions, and really it ap-
peased to him that it was not exactly the question
with which the House of Lords ought to mix itself up na-
me-tweedy. (Hear, bear.) If he hail been is his place se
that day, hr should have felt it to be his dsty to advise
their lordships to have before them the p&&ssiisp which
had taken place in the Onlnance-edlee; affil thasehre en
the earliest day afterwards he gave rein Hat he *NH
Roes an mashes which he was now shoat le used.
The Lail of DERBY was so far in the maw praidea as
the noble duke, that be wee net present when Se motion
for the committee was salmelleted to the hens; mad if be
could conceive the case le leap tie mile ado
be should have come to the Mime semilgiopeanensilhalinst
was not expedient that their lordships noel eater as • He.
gasmen of the merits of these leveed's% Mlle eitenniffillie
had been moved for as an appeal ended the dribs demo.
potent officers, appointed on high sitikwati le =mks mai
mat, he should have tale Mi. see* se the smite die
that nothing could be awe Isis t than to agpoi
from a son competent te•bmerrentphist authority Ike OM
purpose of investigating the ems hie. (Hear, beer.)
Lad if this were • question of amen fres that *Rd%
kW the purpose of obtaining Mem peallement • ma Of
money, in contradiction to the epees* aft
the pine
eaters who had examined into the sperelse, be shend be
the foremost to object to the inquiry ; hat he =
that the noble and gallant duke was seasewbet
' as to the intentions of the committee which hi tees idol
for and granted. There could be no doubt that Capt Wesel
was possessed of the secret of a highly explosive pew,
which did produce extraoedinatyl effects in the mammals
which it had been applied. Ou affprevions °creams Captain
Warner had desired that sa the esteem of the experiment,
and upon one ;art of the sneer of Os operations, a large
gum of money should be paid dews te him by the public.
That was the propmitios whisk he made to the late Sir
Robert Peel, and to sottish Peel, be nos_ t nepicly objected.
Captain Warner now ems. however, be their laddds
with a:different propeeitias. As ear had sew hese made
Captain Worms, through the median et the stele
(Talbot), that he would now gs began • ematittee wittiest
say prows; pledge, or even understanding held oat ea the
part of their krdships with regard to any seas el away Is
be paid to him. He desired, for the mks of his ewe eh&
ratter and position, that he should have an epportealty of
appearing before • committee of their lordship's Musa, he
fore whom he was prepared to lay, as he ( Mel aDerby)
understood, the whole secret of he composition and hives-
tion, and to explain to that amunittee, triestlug to their
honour as peers of parliament—(hear, hear)—that which he
never would explain to any paean before—namely, the
composition of his invention, ant the mode of its
application, without binding parliament to anything.
Now, when a gentleman having an Important
secret, was desirous of explaining the whole of that mend
before a committee of their lordships' house, and that upon
& distinct declaration that the house, by granting • com-
mittee. was not bound to purchase his meat, or to pay
him anything for it, it would he a bard case, and gamely
justifiable in those charged with the management of public
affairs, entirely to refuse that gentleman a full opportunity
of explaining the whole of his system, and giving to •com-
mate° of the House of Lords full details. Further than
this he did not understand that their lordships were
pledged , but to that extent he thought it was not fair to
refuse to hear before a committee what Captain Warner
had to say.
The Duke of WELLINGTON said, at all events, he
desired, before a committee of their lordahips house en-
tered into the eonsideraties of the subject, that they should
have before them all the lahniatioa which the Board et
Ortlnasee could give. (Iteerlsese.)
The Earl of HARDWICRE theaght it desirable to
know what the inventions irlin, Mid whether they were
available for the public anise k mid kr this psepess the
committee was to be formed. He was no ef the - elms
sent down to witness the espesiesest of the espied.* meat,
and he should relate what he saw and what be did ad ere.
(A laugh.) He saw the effects, but be did sea see the ma-
chinery. He saw a strong oak. built ship blows to pines,
sad net a piece left larger than his mm ; bat me see basw
hew it was done. Now, Captain Warmer propesed te state
what the explosive agents consies/ mad haw Ow wen
lei, to state, in fact, the maim anis Westin* Veen-
sees ; end the eassiten wesM be sealed ile Mil before
them seen and earn to see whether the naming esald
be netted le EAGLES re of werliee (Meer. beer)
Laid MON il the Id posperities mode by
Captain Warner to the gweennest wee merle to him when
be was in office, and he seemed It ea Me awn (afterwerds
Lea) Vivian, then essaterigemerel ef the ardeasse. He saw
him the following day, when lir II NU bin that it was
a bad speculate:a, or that the epesslrls wee faism, for he
had asked Captain Wynne vibe the *feet of she spoilt:a-
tlas of the ceptedwe agent at the iMIMISO of Gibraltar would
be. and he seIJ that it would not rely destroy the worn,
bet blow cep the rock itself. Sir Mom Vaasa regarded
tha4.llt ea alerstalle triunity, wad mid (he seall met vs say ea.
61111Ctea It appeared le bka Led )
eintowspoities M refer doh men to a saint wank-
Ise wis tressessilable with nee= sense asil
tr
y usage. (Hear, hear.)_ He held la XI: 86-d
a
len • the late Sir Hebert Peel to hr Henn
Deeptem 'hewing that the matter wee mot disposed
a Is the nosey question, bat apon its meg&
.The week of fir Hebert Peel were the : "I ban
lead the yes weregood enough to end as. It is
bid I did sot require such a desseastrao
I .ref the 0 Mr. Weiner. I deeply regret
that me mesh shells ens has bees thrown away upset
-enh • enabaleseesiaz his pr wonle." (Pram) Now Oh
sepesein ef hes Hobert Pei steady showed
thee*, mei" et SISI time wee set an objection
sheet nessi,but wee bea dips a sesvisties of tho Aar-
beeneede of ier. irsaarr. lie Mama-M) would
Hoehn eri wersopeir solar' establish .
ra hy She inreit His what mold met
41.
earna aleshlneel paeeeden. tV, that the
(Derby) wield reseeidiar bis
Het TALBOT said it wee sew pan if his nee
fat the* lavestior hid sew yet Isis hirly Wood. As
Ulna Nil ea • hien eseries, An bed base the whew
ef three eirpetheiste of dr fenlelu sheik and the fleet
nernet be sew the :
reeler ef the sepereas he felt that
ohage= y
insed was as eneendleary Ided. Ho allotted
en the endsoiss selent bed takes pares is the
peasesse et messy of their lerehlge red awhileiy in the
preens of a great masher of nanstere Mos al the es.
pelmet, at Beigiess. he ebet ass the popssal was
ask that the ship to le spewed apse sheiM be la the leads et Mien ef nos enennest, la seisesired that
that emanate* at hest should be gives by Mr. Warmer
setsiast nay mad* play ; sad dine weld the. be ae doubt et the latephy of the expo-
rimiest. Is sake farther, that all ideas of collusion
set triek should be Inlaid'sr it was agreed that the mph"
don 'hada he mend =Weiner es his (Earl Iblher4
raising the flag eigasi to limo whin he we so
n mess es whom? amen he teed Med sad witheas my
le Mr. Warner. The nes& was all sues.regestalp MY In omen with the explosive ealetnea sad
she tree imenedleenf destroys/ Of omens, he sight be
ninks• ' bell lee diits lwldere hem thee said kw einhoo,
mespe'riesseleo least Idly bane that thee bvillle
et setwiatin would pen of the pestell Me
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