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After Some remarks from Mr. S. WATIREIL
Lord J. MANNERS replied both as to the 'Wellington
Monument and the river Thames. On the first'
point be described the proceedings subsequent to the
exhibition of competing designs, Re far as he was
connected with the affair. Respecting the purifies-
tion of the Thames, the subject did not lie in his'
department, but fell within the jurisdiction of the
Metropolitan Board of Words. He confessed that
the present system partook of the nature of a double
government, and required change. But he reminded
the house taut if the Ministry undertook ilte tidlk '
the nation must pay for it. If it was left to tWe
Board of Works the expenses would fall npon the
metropolis. • I
AMERICA AND THE SLAVE TRADE. '
Mr. BRIGHT having urged a 4uery touching the
proceedings of the Englis4 squadron engaged in the
suppression of the bkiVe trade and with respect to
our relations with the United States,
Mr. S. Firzoettan said that the officittinforma-
tion on this .uoject was still incomplete.' lie had;
however, just cause to believe that the resent tact '
understandings with the United St atek were let oentee
of amicable adjustment. The British IGeVernritent.'
would frankly and voluntarily make !Melt reparetidri'
for any infraction of international rights twittcli,l
might have been committed by their officers 'lre Yeti'
excess 01 zeal ; but at the same time they were
assured that many of the accounts of alleged
outrages which had appeared in the America i
journals were grossly exaggerated. On this point
he read some explanatory statements relating to'l
special instances, and proceeded to Mate that the
right of-search question having been submitted to'
the law officers of the Croivn, a unatihnotts opinion
had been returned to the effect that no such right
could be claimed in time of peace. Her Majesty's
Ministers had accordingly resolved to abandon it
completely. The subject of the slave squadron was
under consideration by the Giivernm_int, whose
present intention was to withdraw the blockading
cruisers from the Cuban waters.
Mr. ROEBUCK said that the explanations given by
the right bon. gentleman were highly satisfactory,i
and the tone he had assumed very creditable:.
Without seem Heine the di; nits of England, he had
pacified the irritation of the Cubed States.
Lord J. RUs4Ru. intimated his concurrence in the
satisfaction expressed by Mr. Roebuck with the oon
duct and policy of her Majesty's,3liiiisters.
Lord PALMERSTON declared that the American Go.
vernment had cordially co-operated with England in
attempting to put down the slave trade.

The CHANCiLLOR of the EICREQU&R stated that.
the Washington Cabinet had been invited to suggest.
some scheme by whi‘th England and America could j
in union operate more effectuady fur the auppressiost
of the traffic in slaves. The answer was not )et
ceived, but he looked forward with much hope to the
contrivance of a successful scheme to effect the
object in view. He had no fear of any intinrapligal
of friendship between the two counttiesr who went,
he observed, bound together by strong ties, spring-
ing not only from their identity of race and commer-
cial interest, but also from a complete accordance in
their national spirit and policy.

1 •

.
After a few words from Mr. IV.tuanN the subject
dropped.
The Funded Debt Bill was road a second time.
The house, having gone into committee on the
Sale and Transfer of Lund (Ireland) Bill, proceeded
to discuss the clauses of that measure.
On resuming, at a late hour, the other orders of
the day were disposed of, and the bouseadjourned.

THE QUEEN'S PROGRESS THROUGH THE
MIDLAND DISTRICI'S.
Oa Tuesday eveninl., after her Majesty left Birming-
ham, ,he made a detour from the railway station at
Kenilworth, on her way to Stotieleigh, through the
ruins of the Castle of Kebilworth.
The dinner party at Mary
consisted of the
Earl of Warwick, Lady Mary Fielding aad Captain
Fielding, the Hon. and Uev. H. Cholmnnieley, the
Marquis of Chandos, abd Viscount Hood. The
addition to these were the nobility sod gently
staying is the house. A large party of the nubility
and gentry resident in the neighbourhood received
invi.ation-4 for the evening. Portions of the abbey
and domain were brilliantly illuminated.
On We,lnesday morning her Majesty weak orftlbe •
grounds at Stoneleigh, remarkable fogttlfght•olll3
natural beauties. At one o'clock the queen Apek
leave of her noble host and Itostese, aad departed
for Warwick Castle.
The inhabitants of Leamington bad prepared,,
themselves to give to her. Majesty a hearty reception I,
a large sum of money was subscribed for sui,t4hti
decorations ; and the members of the ruling .1.904,
corporate, the " local Board of Cammissioaers,"-com•
canted, on this occasion only, to form a squadron of
horse as a body guard to the Sovereign from one awl.
to the other of the parish, boaadary.. The people of
Leamington were not less aeelen. is Able reoPPet

than thetiri .I%llre were house,. deeprationi ,
an xterirlivW' Wake!" cotit'se thete tobk'S floral
' turn and pretty wreat end- gar'ands, with thou-
sands of bright flower* interspersed, met the eve.
AV:Mak well executed and elaborately decorated
oreja,44,lseliZerrilworth -New-road. bet hisjesty's
careiuse; passed, and thalme proceeded, amidst the
heartiest demons rations, down the Parade. 4, God
mega your Msjeety," shouted the people alt along the
line, as she rode on; and the Queen, looking well
and greatly pleased, s:niled, and acknowledged th/
salutations of her subjects frequently.
At the mootent her Maisety passed,• the Jephsoa
Gardena. lbelloon ascended.: the. Queen cmight•
,of ,M' tinmediatelh•etniled, and directed
Prince Consort's attention to this mode of displayieq•
the penpleggliertialty. :Dart:argil • the town•and on the
road tort Warwick , Car/le.:there were exuberant and
genuipe,demonmtratituns ofnuthuaiasin.
Along the .pleasant and neatly trimmed old mad
leading kink: Leamington stitLAYarwrok Ce,tle the
Loyal carriage went on IN lertry, accompanied*
military escort,: • acenpossdu ftillarni Leigh's asap
yeomanry. ...A.,itt4 00! art•
T Q ueeo ndlasifealy!,teuoit delighted with
the superb vies' of Wircwick Goths al:deiced from the
bridge which spans the Avon. Nearly a thousand
years 4111101:411aled., away since the budding wet
ereoted-erh .1-, . 11.mq • u;
• Anvonuel tan iteasaried•spes-.11 tit 11 n •
Yaltutibalir expand. •

end iWateritelt tattle AEI; titian*, en described
the Ariesto of the North„ 0 the feireet monement .
ancient and thivalroat splendour •whitti yet remain,
uninjured- by duet.' , •
Next tokervietti ifsibetentlii;feein ',the Midge
moonlightettothintrickilitAhheit" beenti Min+ that, 1
view whiehCber,,Milldntitibtinned drtlidliCastle
Wednesday: :•The eAftt I shone ftirah'ilkilititisnm_
brilliancy, Without it,elend eb largetit'dthiati's hand
in view; and amidst the cheers of her faithful
jects Queen Vietortia drew up in front of the vent,.
cable pile, the founder of the original structure upon
the site on which it stood Being the great Altred's
daughter. i. •.'
lit Ml* minntes past twd'ettlivek precisely the cacti(
St tet vi'erti'leteting oPen, dild'the•Qdeen's carriage
entered ; it the itoment the Streereigit entered, the
eoyal standird'inetcti from the far-famed Cie -
Tower.
The preparifiuliiii*lldo by the Earl of Warwick
:t for the recepti ll' been on an extensive scale
of these ,sVet . `lakii enter into detal. In
superb -fifth.% ' fifelf"Ceetres all interest. In
inspection of the eoloseal giianditurs of a byg m.
day contained' within the eittiet watts, her Majesty
4,
must have foutidinidi Iditditte of special ihteresti
'yid much; for'enn i* ed **Elie' observation.' •
i The gritten Ihrich . '-)at ItiVita?Silel it SeleCt party,
tf the nobility. end' hr. the 1 neighbourly od"
icing invited. Harldejedif left the castle'sAufrei
efbre five o'cleck; th:dlitiaitht thro'ngh the"Wiettl''
Warwick (hsfidsbritely ' deehietekt),-. eirOutiterli
•• t,i) vi• •• - •
riii
Mother Ovation. • •
A large-concotirtniil4'
the Warilek'letatiMil-'''.' `'lNE""Nklatte' carriage
iitiat up tis'iliiiiilatfhith, bie•'littal- d- with many
'nth or out
Pted ife_hiiilititjtilitY was alighting. ''
vtir Phifdrveod"bridl'handid to her the .
pOrvitiois ikiliditcilittifiAtis'it'fitelYhtilfieteeitied.
The Quedfi lid tdietibtftiyid, sillaitaillthlbeaterely
bet; ht;iiite. ximog '14,4114-' / To t^rd
Warteick`ined With Lot*d ea La LOgII.; To 'bot
she 'eipie,sed Hai Iftget"iiitills' - ht. the rebeption
she had eiperiefieed.' ' ' '''. ' '''" .
At fifteen mirfutes pact five tile •Maleitt 14'
London, amidst enthasiattia'hb*Wint M
' ratinuf Of the Station. ' .. ~ :1 `,.--ro•rt tr-t,
The Queen.. ind Prides art/4,48'1dt ifilimtleidee`
twenty minutes before eight • o'clock' 'tide iliW d' b
Duchess of Athol!, Hhn. HoratiO'fitopfurd,
Delawarr, the Marritli a of Abercet'd_.`Cei.'tlie Hoz
Charles B. • Phippe, Malin-Geri" lildtititifitf; fed'
F. H. Seymour.; •
Mr. Secretary :Weirdo littilifietthe Itifieen
1 L°ridelV• -"" ''' '• ' ' ,' li•ar ::,u,„q,,,,1, ,ir
, ,A,,, 7.4,,,,07iift1f ;Wig IfI7,(rIII131U4 ' ""I'l
. :, •I 4 fft,?l, ~ to •-',lr' •I'l I 111011
A CABIJIZT COUNCIL was held on se*Sedey at
• oft/eial residence ottho Chancellor of the Exchequer
I in ,Downiowetrent.j,, Wile Ministers present were—
The End of Derby,,,llte• Lord Chancenot, the !
quis of SelisWhthst Fi4rl of Hardivicke, the CI
cello? of the Esehequer, Mr. Secretary Walpole,
Earl cif Malmesbury, Sir E. A. Lytton, General
Sir Aloha Pakington, Lord Stanley, tha Eight
J. W. Henley, and Lord John Manners.
Tuz family and friends of the celebrated .
Morgan have been for the lest two weeks labouri
under the greatept, shaiety on Account of her ral
failing health. !It .10,. no* underatbod that her •
ship is in imminent danger, and her medical advisb.
have:emotion:tad *Elbert.. The numerous inquiries
. after the illustrious *offerer at her residence in
Albeit gate prove the extent of the Floridly evinced
for her in the world of-literature and fashion.

crlttngs . raliamott.

LOUSE OF LORDS--110SIDAY.
motion of the Earl Of MALMESBURS, the
,ing of the Oaths Bill was postponed from
account of the indispobition of the Earl of

‘vorce and Matrimonial Cau3es Act Amend-
went through oomn,ittea.
THE MILITIA.
. to questions put by the Duke of Buc-
reference to calling out and training the
the appointment of a Royal Commis-
mire into the organization of the militia

HARDINGE stated that a commission would
appointed to inquire into the subject ; the in
the commission had not yet been tub-
points involved in the Duke of Bite-
questions would be fully investigated by the
ion. A portion of the militia would be called
training during the next autumn.
discussion on the general efficiency of the
followed, in which the Duke of Cleveland,
of Clanricarde, and Lord Lyttelton took

GREY thought it should be decided whether
• - was to be a separate force, or a reserve
ig recruits to the regular army. At
competed with the army in recruiting. If
were reduced to its proper character of a
the expenditure saved would add to the
increabing the efficiency, of the regular

?hich the country must ai laet depend.
. .

of CAustuvoi believed that Rich ques.
be best considered by the commission,
understood would make a very full in-
militia might be both a local force, and
valuable means of filling up the ranks of the
lordships shortly after adjourned.
OUSE OF COMMONS—MONDAY.
INDIA.

Swim's, in reply to Sir E. Perry, read an
from a private letter of Lord Canning, and
from a private letter of Mr. Montgomery,
he former, giving a favourable account
progress making in the settlement of Oude.
house having again resolved itself into a
on the Government of India,
.ANLEY moved the fifth resolution, "That,
- to the efficiency and independence of
,it is expedient that it should be partly
and partly elected." If, he observed, the
t to be a reality, it must possess substan-
independence, and be known to have that
If the members were to be nominated,
three modes,—first, nomination for good
practically for life. This mode did, to a
de extent, insure independence ; but the
forcibly applied that, under such a system
'nation, a certain proportion would always be
through infirmity or other causes, of per-
-4g their duties in a satisfactory manner ; and if
Council should be divided into committees, part
- filled by incompetent to the exclusion of
men. A second mode was nomination
, term, without renomination ; and this
Inexpedient in practice from the manner
it would operate upon persons of different
there would not be the same guarantee
-deuce as by nomination for life. A third
;as nomination for a short term, with a
renomination, which would practically
members of the Council in a position of
• dependence upon the Minister than any
iblic offite, and men of station and ability
r to the acceptance of the office for a
of years. Of the three modes, he thought
presented (the fewest inconveniences ; but
adopted one of them, the house should
deliberately consider whether a part of
might not be appointed by another
proposing that a portion should be
Government were improving rather than
from the present system. He did not
principle of election with that of re-
he proposed it as a means whereby
• of men at onoe eminent and independent
obtained. The constituency, to be pro-
subseqnent resolution, would consist of
of East India Stock, holders of Indian
shares, and retired officers in the various
`r the Indian service, forming an aggregate
between 7,000 and 8,000, embodying a
amount of persons interested in Indian affairs,
large amount combining with a knowledge of
administration, freedom from political bias.
, RUSSELL moved, by way of amendment,
• members of the Council be appointed by
41ajaat3. This, he said, was the regular mode
appointment ; every one knew from whom the
"oent emanated, and there was the constitu-
security that there was a pers3a responsible for

T, E. PRESS, Jt NE 19, iBSS.

any unfit appointment. If a change was to be made,
in his opinion it ought to be complete. He objected
to the proposed constituency ; with the exception of
retired Indian servants, they would feel no special
interest in the welfare of India. If Lord Stanley
should succeed in his proposition, and ten out of
fifteen or eight out of twelve of the Council should
be returned by his electoral body, he would give rise
to a system of corruption. He (Lord John) would
have all the members nominated by the Crown,
through a Minister of the Crown, responsible for
what he did.

Sir J. GRAHAM said he had been of opinion from
the first that a change in the government of India
at the present moment was most inopportune, and
high authorities were of opinion that at this time it
was inexpedient. But he admitted that effect must
be given to the decision of the horse. Although
the Court of Directors of the East ICclia Company
had yet had no accuser, Mr. Bright had desired to
have a Council as unlike that Court as possible. So
far from this, he (Sir James) desired to reduce the
change to a minimum, and, in the main, to make the
Council as like the Court of Directors as possible.
Sir Charles Wood had said that a better Council
than the Court no man ever had to aid him, whereas
Sir G. Lewis regarded the present system as cum-
brous and inefficient. The house having resolved
that,the government of India should be transferred
from the Company to the Crown, and that there
should be a Council to assist the Indian Minister,
he would build upon the old foundation. He was
disposed to think, on the whole, that the members
of the Council should be nominated in the bill; that
they should hold office during good behaviour, equiva-
lent to holding it for life ; but that a large portion of
the present Court of Directors should be among the
persons nominated. After throwing out suggestions
for combining the principle of nomination with that
of election, he was prepared, he said, to vote for
this resolution, but not for the 7th, which established
a constituency like that indicated by Lord Stanley
fur the elected members. On the whole, he wished
to feel his way from time to time, and thought that
by the Court of Directors, with its knowledge of the
subject, being made part of the Council, a safe means
would be afforded of introducing further changes
with the least shock to the people of India.
In the debate which followed, the resolution, the
amendment, and the proposition of Sir J. Graham
underwent a very long discussion, which wandered
from principle to details, and into the policy of the
whole measure. In the course of the discussion,

Lord STANLEY said he had only asked the house to
consider the principle of a partial election as an
alternative proposition; and, if there be an election,
a constituency must be found, and this was a ques-
tion which did not admit of an answer altogether
satisfactory. Sir J. Graham's proposition was com-
plex in its character add required consideration ;
but that proposition, or any other of an analogous
character, fell within the scope and terms of the
res lution, and the committee did not pledge itself
by adopting it to any expedient for framing a con-
stituency. The Government merely desired to place
some check upon the uncontrolled nomination of
the Crown.

Lord PALMERSTON said he did not think that Sir
J. Graham had proposed a plan that would solve
the difficulty. He had argued against the principle
of election, and was yet prepared to vote for a re-
solution which embodied that principle. We lived
under a constitutional monarchy, the principle of
which was that in every act of the Crown there
should be a constitutional adviser responsible for
the act; but a Council, not appointed by the Crown,
nor chosen by a legally established constituency,
would be an irresponsible body, which would be
wholly anomalous. If the elective principle be good
it ought to be general, and the whole Council should
be elected.

Mr. GLADSTONE observed that it was evident that,
in the opinion of the committee, there were many
strong objections to both extreme principles—elec-
tion by a constituency on one hand, and pure nomi-
nation on the other. With regard to the first, it had
been brought before the committee in a definite
form ; but as to nomination by the Crown, the ob-
jections to it were of such a character that they
would feel them more and more strongly as they

proceeded. He felt the constitutional objection, but
this was secondary to the consideration of how to
reconcile nomination of the Crown with the inde
pendence of the Council. It would be impossible
to have an independent Council free from suspicion
if the principle of nomination for a term renewable
by the Crown were adopted; and if the nomination
were for life the offices might lapse into sinecures,
or the holders might become incompetent. It was
difficult, therefore, to get over the objections to
nomination by the Crown. The favourable manner
in which Sir J. Graham's proposition bad been re-
ceived by the committee, in his opinion, held out
a prospect of its ultimate acceptance. The sound.
ness of its principle rendered it likely that it would
secured increased favour ; it recommended itself,

591

first, by its merits, and, secondly, as a mode of
escape from a difficulty.
. . .

After a further discussion, in which Sir J. GRAHAM
gave a fullar exposition of his suggestion for com-
bining the two principles, and the CHANCELLOR of the
EXCHEQUER reminded the committee that the reso-
lution did not pledge it to approve any specific mcde
of election or any particular constituency, a division
took place, when Lord J. Russell's amendment was
negatived by 250 to 185.
The question upon the resolution being pnt,
Lord GODERICH moved that the chairman report
progress, in order to afford time for the consideration
of Sir J. Graham's proposition.
This motion was negatived upon a division by 239
to 155.

The resolution, after a few words of explanation
from Lord J. RUSSELL and the CHANCELLOR of the
EXCHEQUER, was then agreed to, and the chairman
was ordered to report progress.
On the order for tho second reading of the Peace
Preservation (Ireland) Act Continuance Bill,

. .
Mr. BAowELL, considering that there was no ne-
cessity for the bill, moved to defer the second
reading for six months.
Lord Nees stated reasons why the powers given
by the bill should not be taken away from the Go-
vernment.
Mr. Sergeant Deasy and Mr. C. Fortescue spoke
in favour of the second reading, and Mr. P. O'Brien
against it.

Upon a division, the amendment was negatived by
168 to 20, and the bill was read a second time.
Other bills were forwarded a stage, and some other
business having been disposed of, the house ad-
journed at twenty minutes to one o'clock.

HOUSE OF LORDS-TUZSDAY.
MANNING THE NAVY.

The Earl of MALMESBURY, in reply to a question
from Lord Brougham, stated that a commission had
been appointed to inquire into the best mode of
manning the navy ; but it should not be supposed
that the present naval force could not be manned in
a short space of time, or that ships enough to defend
the Channel could not be immediately provided with
Crews.

PROPERTY QUALIFICATION.
Earl FORTESCUE moved the third reading of the
Property Qualification Bill.
Lord Ravensworth, the Earl of Clancarty, and the
Earl of Wicklow strongly opposed the measure, on
the ground that it would lead to further changes,
such as the payment of members, and would abolish
the security that an individual returned to the
House of Commons was entitled to aspire to that
honour. If he did not possess the security of a
qualification himself, the present law compelled him
to be of such standing that be could be trusted with
one.

Lord Baouonam thought that as a qualification
was often proved by falsehood, and sometimes by
perjury, it ought to be abolished; but the abolition
should be accompanied by an act, rendering inca-
pable of holding a seat all persons who should not
have paid their debts within twelve months after
they had been declared bankrupt. He gave notice
he should introduce a measure to that effect.

Lord DENMAN moved that the bill be read a third
time that day six months, but it was negaiived with-
out a division.

The bill was then read a third time.

The Marquis of CLANBICAP.DE, after some discus.
sion, withdrew his motion for considering a petition
from Mr. W. M'Dermott, praying that the hearing of
the articles of charge against him be postponed from
the 21st of June to the 10th of July.

The Marquis of SALISBURY, in answer to a ques-
tion, stated that the last correspondence between
her Majesty's Government and the Governments of
Naples and Sardinia would be laid on the table as soon
as it was complete.
There lordships then adjourned.

HOUSE OF COMMONS-TUESDAY.

MR. TOWNSEND'S BANKRUPTCY.
Mr. FITZROY, at the morning sitting, moved that
a copy of the record of the adjudication of bank-
ruptcy against Mr. John Townsend, the member fq
Greenwich, be read in conjunction with the Act 52.4
of George 111., cap. 144.
This having been done, a discussion e■svads is
which Mr. Townsend took part, and whi,n resulted
in the following resolution :

That Mr. John Townsend, memlye for the borough of
Greenwich, having been found, d•elared, and adjudged a
bankrupt from the .29th of Mara, had since been, and
still was, by law, incapable of sitting and voting in that
house.

This resolution wag agreed to, the SOLICITOR-
GENERAL remarking that the statute did not require
that a bankrupt member should immediately lose his
seat ; it allowed him an interval of twelve months,
during which he might get the commission
seded, or pay his creditors, he in the meantime
incapacitated from sitting and voting.

• Vrotrt
HO
On the ono
second reading
Friday, on acs
Derby.
The Divorce
meot Bill went
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militia, and tl
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Lord HARM
be appointed
structions to t
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clench's questi
commission. A
out for traininj
A discussion
militia followe
the Marquis of
part.
Earl GREY
the militia wa
for furnishing
present it comj
the militia wet
local lorce, the
means of suer
army, on which,
The Duke of
tions would b(
which he and
quiry. The lEI
also a valuable
army.
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Lord STANLE
extract from a
another from s
inclosed in the
of the progress
The house
Committee on
Lord STANLE
with a view to
the Council, it
nominated and
Council was to
tial independe
character. If
there were Oro
behaviour, prat
considerable e:
objection forci'
of nomination,
incapable, thre
forming their
the Council slt
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competent me
for a long ter
would be toes;
in which it woe
ages, and theist
for indeperden
principle was
power of rem
place the mem
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would demur
short term of 3
the first press
before it odor
fairly and del
the Council n
system. In I
elected, the Ot
departing fror
confound the
presentation ;
the services of
might be obts
Posed in a sul
Proprietors of
railway shares
branches of the
number of bet
large amount c
and a large an
Indian adminh
Lord J. Run
that the mere
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aPPolntment e
time security