The Express.
London, England, 1852-03-17 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY EVENING, MARCH 17, 1852.

IMPERIAL R

HOUSE OF LORDS.—TuraDaT, MAacll 16.
TM LORD CRANCILLOR took ku MI 115 o'clock.
PETITIONS PRESENTED.

VOLICT or Tar 00•111AIIINT.—By Earl GRANVILLE,
numeromly signed, hula burkies, merchants, and othtn,
Liverpool, and the Dike of NEWCASTLE, from %ha
Commercial Association of Manchester praying that lir
country 'nay be relieved u soon as poestWe from its pea
seat suspense on the subject of the oolzuncrcial policy of the
government.
THE POLICE—RIFLE CORPS.
.....

The Earl Or ELCENfloliallii gavca;iice that on
Thursday he would more for returns showing the number
of rural and municipal polite ; end at the same time he
would ask, whether the goverammt adhered to the deci-
sion of their prodoomesors nut to giro any aid to volunteer
COrialtelmN T COURTS FURTHER EXTENSION BILL.
Oa the motion of Lord BROUGHAM, this bill was read
a third time and per*
EDUCATION IN IRELAND.

The Marquis of CLANHICAHDE rose, pursuant to
Sohn, to ask if her Majesty's ministers intended to pro-
pose to parliament any alteration in the present ap-
plseation of the public funds for educational purposes
Is Ireland. The noble tnoryuis traced the program
of the National School system, from 1832 down to the
last report which had been presented on the subject,
with a view to show the progress which it had made. In
1631, there were 71.9 sc6iols, giving education to 107,006
children ;iu 1813. the schools had iacreased to 2,9 i and
the children to 3i3,000 ; hi 1666, the number of schools was
3,600. and sehoLus 433,00; and according to the last report,
In 1810. notwithstanding the great extent of emigration in
1849, the number of schools was 6,317, and the pupils re•
airing instruction 311,6 W. Additional accommodation had
Mon been obtained, and the schools now numbered 4,600,
having 320,0J0 scholars. Now, he maintained that these
school• ought to be' preserved by the government of the
Country. tor, he took open dime& to say, that there did not
*Met a better system of Christian education in any part of
the civilised world. The books of the Natimal Society
were sought after not only. by schools in this country but is
various pins of the continent ; and it was a system of
education eminently practical. There were seventeen
model schools in different parts of Ireland, besides those
which he hail mentioned, and the whole system was cal-
culated to by of the utmost beat& to the country. This
being the case, he was sorry to have hail his attention lately
eallo,l to a speech delivered by her Majesty's Attorney-
Oen, rd iu Joel tad. He did not wish to find fault with
any prtieular words of that speech, but w,th its general
purport, which appeared to be to find fault with the present
system of national education, and to state that he should
111011C1V011f to induce the government to lend their support
to a different system. He stated that Lord Derby had said
that he would have an honest inquiry to see what could
be done Such a rpeech coming from so high an autho-
rity ;would certainly have the effect of leading per-
sons to suppose that the present government were
inclined to eatend their plans of education to other sys-
tems than that of the national board, in contradiction to
the policy of their predecessors. When they considered all
the dilSculties with which the National School system had
bad to contend—all the antagonism which it had to en-
counter—it was imp:eal6le not to award praise to those
noble, leiraed, and reverend persons by whose untiring
seal and assiduity—by whom its success had been mainly
secured. (Hear, bear.) He hoped the pre.ent government
would support the system; but if it was said that the
matter was nadir the consideration of the government, and
a doubt was thrown upon it, it would be most injurious,
not only to the system itself, but to the government; and
be thought he was doing no bad service to her Majesty's
government b asking the noble earl if it was his intention
to mike any ebony whatever In the appropriation of the
public funds P
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The Earl of =MR odd be wee ease eat their lord-
ships and the
de wsribignall WENN seed some% that if
any Man win be wed
of the system o ed Isesed.ll mit be Ire=
vidual who had thee the lesser of wilsessess Orr bed-
ships ; because Mart Wide to limit dam
credit, he was ate pima during whose GS
chief secretary of tat WIWI of Ireland, the wider mar
of former commiwism sad pleas peptized bp bawd or
painstaking isdiebbil, were eirsieed ; and a sevess-
anent of which be wee • member, is.. to the esselers
that it was nassmary to introdese a sew system of taw
bined educadem It was his geed brews to be de airs
of that govermasat is tee resobilese
introducing that eases. Re wi die deepest
Werra, ad mai howdy , the preipes_s aid frees,
whir theds arrauisled suably abeleited el the amber
of wheels ad sebeless eider the agile. then betoodesed.
He believed that se ere whir eerie be takes seat hove
any effect in weakening the bilasase which that spleen
had produced on the Wei of the people of kid Ile
believed it
elted.dreprated iteelf b Ile iedileelese sit
alleetioes of the or that of Het the perm eke.
tern wee as as be believed its rush% as the whole,
had bees bearded Orem es bed bees the issesee ef Hr
Rumba, of Win/ sad ruildle, he believed It bed rot loses
more than essmesseeste with the MINNIIMSIIII. ia pastel
quality, of the eimatiers Sew la hied woke Ow
asp
ef Nalleeal us serreed He
csiality of Ha edsseilei erns am emir rase sip- Aid
ae also believed dot if alt Hat sismse all gmerrost
emetaste druid be williess bes setaan ether
eakools, $
peat sr primer ardor meld bed bees
derived. The poople of beard sew he., or yr mimed
what ray seed Wier= wod se oireised web OM
prowleas sere or IS rem op end they meld
set be sethied with odeesties of an Shim quality, to
that which they now esseired. Nor did he believe it to be
in the power of any dies of proem hewer great the in-
fluence they might merles over a posies of the popula-
tion, to support sersis of es Melee rarest.., ia
lion to then el the poem gra Jibes, her) *
gladly joked r the Isibule lest which the sire mar-
quis bad paid to these imwor or leaded perm to
whose assiduity the me mm of the "dm mss seer to be
attributed, this to mg serene whir bud boss N.
elc :war. Ns bed spins of diem • errs of
me de more dm k was Imposible ihst
salt eimple ONO met whamiedr, ma he sir hlsesl4
that is the muse of twisty various atedilaileas
the details bad bees eat various anteedees in
the minor details of the bee* and ores sere ossiser
with =Minor Per toseriple, le
stood, for for he 1•1.2=11118.allmid Mime* le the
details of the Works Is perms; bathe belber Hue
that which la the Mee rearm sr esedered ,
seemly, the in of error home be dile vole bee,
Mos misos. bees lob he He MI or Irmo of
the meie me
ler er, emesqiwoft, wiesb Men
mired rime moo set red, dm wanes of sodplere
Merles shisle due rub des wee odshilly
emphiled dmo rim lie did set mess le we 1621,
=thee was Ibeszareeo set
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flies lets
Ile Vases a or sun
seed edmilles Ibm they weeilliewthrilemeived War
bed see bees elleilbied. IN eider of
which dee Mt er. alsles plea dis Ire le lime.
They sew emus OM sem time ege trim dieddiseo
based es idede, wore tars es lhe pert of de
Preoloymbs belles,se who rid Ober odd se sash
penereeise es rosy—be shrift des wrie—
r re embed
li dr aeleradetos or Inked. The
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deism No It le by
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tie,
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tuitive set rim 11/ lasesbetlos
s"1.
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re peed% sr deeds roe the red sot only of de
bee de /lam addle preisies—es
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porseb, bet breildelly Dr while br
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sub as Mew. be wee set arena to soy be esseldred ft
a weir of de err imporsee to mewled
widest deperVisdemoom odered system it Zit
be yailhe ire dm erten melt
earn modill-
a ribs rtqoate Hs droller. ma Irmo the
deep le oseporst• 6r tree kw dm
bed blare dem is the arra * Ohm bear,he bed set bed lees so reed sidi wed he lb
bad sr bored bier the for WM.
If be herd what wee this takisigkiessid soe ark
that he wee rift hi. with V he Meshb
111,41111111 ire be bed set seed the 7mef le whieb d. tedfi
mord hod sired. Ist die he bass, rat be
base hob
orimmisellms veld bin et the riled end be Imew hi
doulshremed sr rode
disaster too 11, set ft
believe dell be bed rode se statement is whir he
wee sot entirely boost me art wenested by do
eve which be (be led of Deily) bed mei.
2=m innsatimiliss meld sr to mime Wm-
•• both dim eat he illsetsd at OM Win
that he wee me m& diresed be saber de queries tor
their broblpi emidemeiss, •M to mem that • eswerto
M of here_ hergekeed. Are woe re sleet shish
be It doirdte aside., bow her die ries wee
psedr Mb • swabbed edemeled Mesh meld beds
zlhe_yeeth of heir Is smiler aid beers imseemme
rudose
dust• s albeeet r
bee sellober poseries le themeres,
sed beremay Lira dim van
shish try ewer des es whir Alliedi arse
and • trim we on eadedm opers, set prelbsob het
it result. ; how far de smode err perpreeles we-
esereset were practically erased lowmehLesier ; hew
•r `the seer and west of
of the pork wow Lew seders, esd the sine woes
grew Ile mmeseemet of &ma or oelle perm, sr
led Rome arr. idesherese—or as the greet ma-
Jeetty ed the people were Liam seder he did
as* owl & d thee& M err thee they should
/mew by de beeeellopelos Mow Ar Oil yam was pacti-
deny • vetoes st essarma odesedes. Ile isesgbt for
dat purpose it was arable dm a esomdme &sold be
=owed o be reser that the lobsexe, sode, ismoligations,
of that committee might renew • ponies
of the' trjseleitim ioa• that new existed. I file node of the is -
quiry was to find that, practically iqualthic
mni•irity of schools in which it was intsil •tembisd
ryuin should prevail, there was is reality as esdeive
Intern; that there were presbyterian echoels hem, wed
Homan catholic schools there, from which a portion of the
community werepractiedly excluded by the rules of the
boanl, hr hoped it would not be considered as anything that
would in th, slightest degree trench on the existing system, if
they entered into n calm inquiry how far assistance might to
• certain degree he afforded, even to schools which did
not come within the letter of the law, whether by the sup-
ply of school requisites, or by the supply of the lite-
rary works of the Amid, which fully deserved the praise
the noble m,rquit gave to them, and which he haat', had
been adopted, not adz throughout this kingdom, but in a
great part of Europe ale, ae had keen recognised both by
peotriotaat and Items Whole. Raid not 'brisk from the

cosennenat adverted to by the alibis marquis. If they gave
enek reinsee to prelnessat easel. they could net with-
hold *Mar oniisses ben Mom 'scholia Is
1831 and Ind. whim this no mat Let then
wee a didnease Of Wig been dot midi penned ow
whisk wend hen mined on anotose• NINA OW.-
nvely nom dandle es Pe_ pet .1 dad MOO
=ll.la spatter of alleadio ioneeentft.
Inria to believe not the hellos midi then
misted did not end Is the peenot der. Ile
band that the objection. whisk wen tbea aster-
toned, se to onset* Pam Canalise as Been Oa-
Oaks, had set no one !dent it no ands d thoic:
pie now that they had in 1361. beilned. Not s
*such seelstaacc to a school, esespood at &MS Ca.
tholice, wend sot meet now with the oppeddes sod
b! liOrks whin it would ham met with he nil sod 1632 ;
ut, he adwasied, theta they gave mei asaistriese to schools
exclusively poitestant, they seed sit ream it to schools
exclusively ealkolic. Whether it Was possible to enabine
the independence of these adosis, In their inmost In
rangeland, with the saperiabsdnee of the bowl. whoa
they received aid boo the anima funds, was a moth. ea
which, at the soneat, he mold aft give a mad,* opines.
The Marquis of eapreesed his sessww,
rents in what had hike bee Lord Derby, and seised the
opportunity to para are eulogy OM the leis Archbishop
Murray.
After a few words from the Earl of Delimit,
Lord RODEN trusted that the present govendand would
not continue the system pursued by the late and by MIMI
governments. The people of England believed that ialafro
tors would uphold the protestant church and institutions of
the country, and he sincerely hoped that those expectations
would not be disappointed.
Lord MONTEAGLE hoped if such a committee were
appointed care would be taken to keep its inquiries within
fair bounds. He wished also to move fora copy of Mr.
Stanley's letter to the Duke of Leinster, laying dawn the
principles upon which the present system was established.
After some conversation between the Earl of Donough.
more, the Marquis of Clanricarde, and Lord do Roe an
order wu made for the production of the letter, and the
subject dropped.
The house adjourned at half-put 7 until to-morrow
(Thursday) afternoon.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—TuzsDAT, MARCH 16.
The Srus.aa took the chair at a quarter before font
o'clock.

MEMBER OF THE GOVERNMENT RETURNED.
Lord CLAUDE HAMILTON took the oaths and his meat on
his re-election for Tyrone.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The Humber Conservancy Bill, and the Kingston-on-
Hull Ducks Bill, were severally read a second time, and re-
(erred to select committees.
PUBLIC BUSINESS.
PETITIONS PRESENTED.
MILITIA Bita..—Against, by Mr. 11. BERKELEY, from
a public meeting at Bristol; Sir J. Y. BULLER, from a
place in Devon; Mr. M. GIBSON, from Manchester.
ECCLESIASTICAL TITLES ACT.—For the repeal Of. by
Mr. REYNOLDS, from Enniskillen, Tyrone, and other
places in Ireland, and from Ashboorne, in Derbyshire; Col.
DAWSON, from a place in Monaghan.
GAME Laws.—Against, by Mr. J. ELLIS, hoes Lei-
cester.
ST.CULAR EDUCATION.-411 SIMI" of S parochial system
of, by Mr. W. J. FOX, from Dr. Watts, of Manchester,
sad others.
Reroute or Pant.tastarrr.—ln favour of, by Mr. LOCKE
KING, from Croydon and other places; lie. J. STUART,
from Inverness, praying for an additional member ; by Mr.
SCHOLEFIELD, from Birmingham.
GRANT TO MATNOOTH.—Arnot, Colonel DUNNE,
from several places in Ireland ; Mr. SOTHERON, from •
place not beard; Mr. HARDINOE, from Downpatriek ;
Mr. TATTON EGERTON, from inhabitanu of Attring.
ham, Bowder, and two other pions; Mr. FARRER, from
Bishop Middleham.
TENANT RIGHT AMMO of, by Mr. SCULLY,'
from Tipperary; Mr. H. HEREIZET, from Kerry; Mr.
HEARD, from Kinsale.
M•SCHISTIE AND SALFORD EDUCATION 81LL....E7
Mr. SCHOLEFIELD, from Manoloster,
NOTICES OF MOTIONS FOR TUESDAY, MAWR
STEAIe Nam--By Mr. ANDERSON,—To Mil OW
Lion to the report of the select ammittee of ISie
to inquire into the pesmisability of podding, by MOM 111
the commercial steam marine, Or • mane kale OR Moll
seesmaeonyl Se mew the lasering resolution, on**
is dm of this brew that, with a view to onside
men he the pulls 'arty, to eaenen Ohs
pais new, and to miens posse, it la desirable that
numbs elated ea twiSS the ememeretml seam marine
gessimilly awaide
tie alas retro force he the nom nary to
meA any sand ex'
Wars Dors.—By Mr ANSTEY,—SeIene faimialtice to
Inquire top dm antes of the decline of the revenue duty
VOIDn tbe import of foreign wine.
Di Rat.Lor.—By Mr. H. BERKELEY,—A bill
to wiebila MB mode of voting at elections for MMISDIMI of
vadlomeDlS hear.)
COUNTS PHANCHISE.—By Mr. L. KING,—A bill to
switailate the county freesia* le that of boroughs W giving
On right of Toting to all 101. hemembeiden, and to *sit the
voting to one day.
Bonus Rarcs.—By Mr. TILELAWNY,—A reeds-
*n against the continuance of.
ALLEGED SHOOTING OF A DESERTER.
Mr. W. WILLIAMS, refining to • report which had
emend in a new:ithof • modes bed been di-
* Captain the senniandsr of • British
vZoI4 war ia the le ant a maw who wee es.
damming to dement to Iltrfoolsoo, sod that skate
es was nopenitterpes4: was embodied Min
• mesa time. mar • et puelabastat, ekes am
seans was ast Med ; fee mg tbe Admirehg hid
rewarded the wart* with a pods.; asked whether the
salumen was tree ?
Admiral BERKELEY thought it well bare ben awe
isnewand had as hen. spawn pot the tuna* le as
florroOmy al the Admiralty. Al be seal :=
peso{
neon* ef mask esserresee„ es Mat
te. bed been resulhod at the Allmiralty midis be was in
ease.(Hew, beer.) With roped to the peels., the
bed net the power le "ant • pain to any
made, anseot kr kat servile es wands.
TEE LATE OPERATIONS AT LAGOS.
Mr. FUME W suited, seas ass age, if there was
orry oijoslisir ts greases tiw amoslass seat MI by the
Is the eeniessadar et Ibe swishes et Loin.
Cll:itralsot pieta the lama% ha essmsgesess et-the
in the saltily. He new begged to give alai
alleallialliee ler those dospmdior tomerrow Ohle
day.)
THE TERRITORY OP SARAWAK.
Mr. HUME had put a mean on the fur Is awe fat
a espy of an=ze rank near bee Nmesety's
and Omni Omani to the Salsa end
=shet dish of 111111 M, Mat r.lmesitary of Sers•
wek, is the hind ef Reran; sawing volliaor the Owen
of the one be rat of at loapsawl sersemign, a of a
vowel ming Whoa Is the Subs espi
es t end, else,
under watt -anandly the Bahl kited at Saw
teak. Maw Medea that was on the w, le hid been
inforwed aid se ash desnasnis wise le be heed la the
naives of Ike relle. lie wished saw weedy Is
ea the Chandler*( the Inhequer, whease he bad web
lard(ns megmealed with the fact se to the nalsase e( sac
peo air set P
- The CHANCELLOR of thit EXCHEQUER umannlesd
diet then wen se snit awsmassa as then dads' M in
the archives of the F and be lid bees he
hewn that the Bradt aster been behead at
Sarawak.
THE VENTILATION OF TIE HOUSE.
Imd E. OBAXIVENOR, la Mike a quallen lathe dal
eenniwiner et Woods and Fen& es she safest at the
mendistisn of the been, Mew a Mehl Oman of as en&
Glop ammaltew wen annodled rmime whia mamma
fag le dna leolabsin demise. f esinething were net den
speedily* at
heal tetwocanne.
Mr. W. PATER ad a sinar esuillint in mpg/
to the eanwelltse ream
Led J. MANNERS wet nye ih=lllda Sias Seel
set bins gives say resew for the 4111
nee
boa imitate neet hare ggpes
say aralizedy rowdy, if the°
Ass
ma seal ge, every Linty dila
boas er was in the grogram of =
dewed.hafts ae recent(
o the beam a ressinan was
en Dr. Reid le report on all the dreenetanwermatehraite
mils Maid MI ailed*.
eslVzil J. Masests) in la
Geed that Dr. am had 11
his report, bus
net yet lea lined is hie aside Ind's) Moe.
`ms
hat *pee amt whet bed ham Muss MOM net be sad Ulf
in the bear)—al Ste lea
W pant /saber Ass eaninalse aseeel rot
onsfibor anima oreibmimmal win amid be eamidled. B.
(Lewd J. Mamma bad Ihneame Mow dinsilses ea *JO
anus to gat of the he.. awn be mended a Mice
retrypact
bid aloe been nowsuled
oset. as be maid edited ony_ ibellidie *dm agglim-
Es. elm erelses resowly he wadi& oh but he was own
is mew hm See WPM either etas quassia= which
lad bean pet to Idna (Roar, haw.)
WATER SUPPLY AND EXTRAMURAL INTER.
MENwTE GLASS PALACE.
14. swap.t"ALPOLE, wag Is Mr.
baliented So it weal awl essilemseD.l74
swan ad OM state of past brawn whither asst' sow
sera wand be substituted for rr of last year, wldelk had
tailed in **eel of carrying are extramural interments.
Noddles NOM be done in referees, to the metropolitan
watieroggly until they had the report of the select com-
mittee eat she @object And in answer to another question
the ben gentlemen Intimated that the Crystal Palace
would be removed by the Ist of May.
PUBLIC HOUSES (SCOTLAND) BILL.
Mr. OSWALD asked the Secretary of the Treasury whe-
ther it was his intention to proceed with this bill as • go-
vernment measure?
Mr. FORBES MACKENZIE answered in the negative,
but intimated that he should probably introduce • bill on
the same subject.
OUTRAGE ON BRITISH SUBJECTS AT
ask her Majesty s PF.STII.
•
Mr. ANSTEY begged to ministers I
whether any reparation had been made by the cabinet it I
Vienna for the outrages committed on the persons and
properties of the ministers of the Scottish church at Pesth ;
whether any reply had been received to Lord Granville's
representation on the subject; and, if so, whether there
was any obj..ction ti I iy it le. fore this house ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER had to
state in renly, that Lord Westmoreland mentioned in his
list despatch that he had had an interview with the cabi-
net vi Vienna on the subject of this alleged outrage; but

that the matter was still alai, dissamiaa. He was there-
fore unable to comply with the Illsora's must.
RELIGIOUS ENDO
Mr. ANSTEY mewed for ester slsift-
er elsrltabie leelthetioss sawed Ilse
of the pahh revenues ease he eta=
parliament speeifyiag he amnia d
and the yeah whespiVeduemlevelehile =Ers
lint made, sad the nigher se elm or
rupees. of all sash institutions; sad Is
what way and in what year or yews the esimesi slit mei
andoweasate bars umistganedwimvarlatia ag
gglwtrsessetisusl, se servises
but setsivis of esm-
issyl
shipset est se the puha seeessms, reader the like
I risslitlfog the ameusts respectively so reosived,
and the pests whim sash was Ant ',lna to such
lostiblafts se sanisse and the particular re-
HgisO other slimes he whisk the same was given ; and
ag la what way, and in what year or years,
the SIBISat of shilimy expended on such support has under-
pass thy varieties.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER ebscrthd
that there wee so public or party objethies to these re-
turns ; bat he was bused Is say, after baying assn eked
those is wises 4=eatillitsted then
were thry geese it wee or eves
possible, to give them, Ma essiplozity and
volusainoussem If the lea. genisma wed( communi-
este prim* with hi., he wadi ens whither some
snengsment held not be mho to demi bin Its Infssma•
dest be sought. At must, however, he thought that the
Meese mould not possibly be made; or, if they could, it
wadi oh be after a great lapse of time and a large expen-
diture et the public money.
Mr. ANSTRY would comnianicate with the right hon.
gentians*; but as it was his intention, at no distant
period, to bring the whole subject of these establishments
before the house, ho must persist in moving for the substan-
tial information be sought. He would therefore postpone
his notice till to morrow.

MINISTERS' MONEY (IRELAND).
Mr. REYNOLDS observed that in 1849 a select com-
mittee of this bean was appointed to inquire into this
impost. That ellernittee recommended its abolition ; and
in 18111 the side Led at the head of the late government
stated to the line that the question wee under tho con-
sideration of the t, with a view to the introduc-
tion of a biU far met pipes. He (Mr. Reynolds) there-
fore wished to ask what were the intentions of the present
government on the select ? He had a notice on the paper
that the house should resolve itsoWinto a mosninittee to con-
sider the act authorising the napailiss of this tea ; but if
the government wemill peseleei mdertako the responsi-
bility, he would lublay leave it Whole hands.
Mr. WALPOfiaid it wee mete true that the com-
mittee had rearnmeaded the abis of the tee; and in-
deed all were owed that it was One mbar wend wish to
1 continue, if any substitute moil he heed he is. Her
Modesty's pommeled were audios M Sdi a Nib
mimes ; but es the =hie lord (Led J. i hed tiles
from 1860 until sew, perhaps the Ms. wed&
allow them likewise sem little thme he the mediersties
of the question (" Hear, hear," and a level l
Mr. REYNOLDS would postpone his msiisa until that
day week, in order to give the government time to consider.
(Laughter.)
ALLEGED COAL FRAUDS.
Mr. G. THOMPSON in a speech of seese length, moved
for a select committee to inquire into eselshi alleged frauds
in the eupply dome by centred to the deskyurda mad pub-
lic ogees, in man be sea, to 'mow the napkin. as to
the integrity with whisk Mina elninals an MIRA. The
chair was that ergots of seals from the Tye% Laded
within the jurisdiction of the city of Leaks. were de.
livered UM gevsemeent tispein, not wider the imps
non of me ss% but id semeels of the oontresemet wiler the
superisteedenee sawn senessied with the , awl
that certificates were inn
inMileri quantities were
actually delivered.
The motion was senseded by Mr. Hone.
Mr. BTA/FORD offend the meths, which was not con-
fined to time es plass. end, on the behalf of all public de-
portee% be preessesd against *nit be called upon to
Now warn analnala like tile, whisk it was, indeed,
hepenlib Ilse siq isgeenne at properly to meet. Without
a lanwear ens, sad Min minute details, It would be me-
oldness to appoint a anmitne, which world disturb ox-
ides semegessette, unjustly stigmatise certain dockyards,
and Mimi the progress of salutary reforms.
The gallery was cleared, but no division took place, the
motion having been withdrawn.
PERFORATED POSTAGE STAMPS.
Mr. MUNTE mired for • select essemittse te
Mee the egmement bowmen the Ceemlielessee ef
al
Imenee eel the wee% re lative to medies he pa
-
Mr. -
sheetspee ef labs& lstriltßOGAN eepp the melee, and mewed that
the Jaquith' of the semmittse should be Mended le the
mode of engraving, pdating, and gumming the postage
label
Mr. air
HAMILTON objesteil M ths seigMsl Imam.
that it was handed am an semengelen OM en epee.
meet added, whisk der Majesty's gemenniont denied.
With mead to the sammisient, he tbeart Mrs was a fair
imagist it lagrsy ; and the governamM weft willing that
a mernietee should be eggeinted he that Mimi, which was
the meet estnpsehenehe. _ _

—After • inn dionniss, Mr. Myers withdrew his mo-
titre, arid that Of Mr. GB.OOAN WOO Weld 10.
GLASGOW AND OBAII RAILWAY.
Mr. J. STUART, la web( a resslelien w Is the u-
psilon, of mimosa Mime Model y pedimat sad the
t, t. MOW, the lationsin awl Mae Memos
tie ~letlwa mai Lisa sal the nothas pails of
tows
the
el Kinyboa, ,by tho anoinuollea
Oh et a railway lion the
mad harbour om ia Argyllshire. es
mid that he did not eons le wit pennant hr as sinew-
Clisogew,
upary irsairuLtolminivonso of nosey on MINN of a
tshenujould mind assillY. *of dvidliPropmust. TM
nature of the wok propessilarwas M loss a rail-
way aonnsahaties ham= Glasgow sad the port
of Ohm. The winalsgos to be g nand Ana this
work won, dust It would obviate a hag mad demgerons
Navigation. wed open • 'whet In the oalmain hen of
esuatry ha On west et Sonlaad—tin feheihmatu of th.
Weeds aline ansmating to 100,000. The Clossabor of Con-
ant* of Ohnew la addressing the Chamaliss of tha Re-
=thopui*t, said that there oath sat be a nose
ap of pubis anon tommia en
▪ ot this dsolsolie aidsrleihn. Itthis maid pen
• end pommel lomat to Pe IsMihons the
who meld Mu bare spend mg to thin ro-
wenn whisk wen se_pronn rapredanive mod devianthr west of nadosh. The peigho .f the Ilighlosde wore at
al IMMO simian to oh ilor smaishme hona the public
=it and if this west ef 110 Mlle were own-
hr Uses. thew world be we nesessity for
asmoilm lo pediment hr pile mid ia lona. Rea object
in deg this whoa was le hi may with that public aid
is This aide of Meek*, thr nomotroso of the
mak, was trot mew. Abed a enemy you Ps Ant
adeopdmo of this Wad was minhkes min-Lead
tlieemlreetioa t a talllesey road through the
AM also boon ealuniod by the genemsat
he the ocumatnisika et • railway hen Ar.
briar:lag thellainflginnkg ; and szlisik he
neelhetaL led Pm Minn hy Loyd Gongs ma-
Meek whoa la pawed his oohs mad hemenion rail-
way mime for holed. TM mid which woo gleam
to RP lase was maid la a fezfl whilst pin
Made was don to the dhlrist. . _ Maar the
An of 1846, oomph* moo mad it was nour-
ishing that the capons of Who would be
MAK To osnpiele the iamb would, in the
Mof onaphost ;wpm% smoke about 600,0001.,
isliatialy mg la whin that m~
raked was by Ma
pamphlets agresim. as they Inee pored to
cosine
Memo two4Mis.
litgass=nowe mold
to Mums the as • hem as the saes-
rity of Ps mini: 14111 e did an pun the gowininume
• hang Asoblea ; le al sit elk era Wow Is *thin
wine ll•past *trona ressay. Alleasind was limy
would mosonala, through tha seen et on saglanor, whether
sr an the ospremnaohns whisk had Pea nada sue true,
mil that they would thou lit is menden& with the result
of the
Altar ism seimmoks by Mr. Kumagai' is favour of the
notion, and Mir 0. STAICILLAM wire it,
TM CRAMILLOR of the RICREQUER said, he
did nee MAW Swan led flotillhhad the position which
he profaned to mho the basis of his CAM He (Mr. Dis-
reeD) did net lay down a nil, that the state should not,
ender aay eireareelasess, assist private ; but
WVigsmai he oussind with rug pun amain. If •
Mnalay hod Iran wink ups a wisitof grad
moaning dine*, mai awned est, vlma=
aught, in sancraltige=eat tbsINIKINX:
ewes. But at posans. la tile seas, avowedly hit
hen Mas.

Ha ILLIS osaidend it the duty of dm at to
edit Ole laadlords of this district is dein aping ita re-
SINIMPIas mad believed that in no way mold that be done
a elhotoally a by assisting la Ms iNasavolloa of •
1 railway.
Sir A. CAMPBELL reminded Me lime Mat the pre-
pond railway
_partook mete of • radio thou apricots work.
Mr. HUME was MINIM tart the only tweedy foe the
distress in the Ilighlaaills waseadiration. He sawatioo, no at-
vantage that could result to the essatry from a railroad in
the district in question, wham ems was no traffic to make
it remunerative.

After some further eonvoroadook,lo which Mr. Trelawny,
Sir D. Nonreys, and Mr. Booker took part,
Mr. F. SCOTT moved the adjournment of the debate for
a fortnight, to give the Chancellor of the Exchequer an
opportunity of further considering the subject, which was
agree to.
THE LAWS OF MORTMAIN
Mr. HEADLAM moved the appointment of the select
committee, to consider the laws of mertmain.
After a brief conversation, the motion was agreed to,
when the following committee was nominated:—Mr. Head-
lam, Lord John Manners, the Attorney-General for Inland,
Mr. Hutt, Mr. Marshall, Lord Harry Vane, Mr. Shaft°
Adair, Mr. Austen Mr. Drummond, Mr. Fitzpatrick, Mr.
Hardeastle, Sir Robert Harry Inglis, Mr. Heald, Mr. Keogh,
Mr. Philip 110WIlfal, Mr. Monsell, and Mr. Meagher.
RIBBON CONSPIRACY IN IRELAND.
Mr. NAPIER row pursuant to notice, to move for a
'select committee to inquire into the state of those parts of
the counties of Armagh, Monaghan, and Louth, which are
referred to in her Majesty's speech ; into the immediate
cause of crime and outrage in those districts ; and into the
efliciencnof (he, laws, and of their administration, for the
suppression of such crime and outrage. He said that
his motion was substantially the same as one which
he had intended to make previous to the change of govern-
ment in this country. He could assure the house that this
was a subject of the deepest importance to all classes in
Ireland, and he trusted might claim the attention of the

hoses, beeSre there sold be aohl. el greater bapse
one' telt fraprisseat of tort Sea the seeadey
of Nib pewee.. _ The epee. km he Orem having
reopen? dale these ditels. le mold new per
et. to lay the hare week dear est unsebigoise
evidenco Mink dale es weald, le Waded, SM. ile
lead their 01 la Riled. ft.- v, and Sao
the hatiodoeder grime woad eapital into heit 7.4.*
Irk WOmq he bed as to the state of thee disk..
was the Elgeoulel of the grand jury adobeessd is Lord
, ClaraaM, amplaining of the wide speed of the
c a. praying that an mod.. polies Sim
m°11141111.1740t down fur the purse" ef airlift ea sees
rata lumbago of the ribbon system- Wilk sped to the
administreden of the law, he had procured a retire of the
state of Lodi for two years, selecting only these armee
which were mmaccted with the ribbon system emit wins*
having thislieenharity, that they were the overt Mil 401 •
greet coaho which, if not pot down, woad assa-
pietely override the law with an sp.ed
e
tzt life and property. The retort ass hlbri mt e 2
1849, to the 29th Dec., 1861, ad 'hewed IS separate
ears of ribbon offences, including muds. deeeelog with
latent, and various grades of surdenine searall. Os of
these 23 oases there were only five or reties ; is all the
rot the law had not overtaken the criminals. Shortly after
a social commission was issued for the county of Monaghan,
ma while the commission was pending the series corn-
mewed. The prosecutions at that commission were con-
ducted by his right hon. friend the late Attorney-General
for Ireland, and he was bound to add with great ability,
although perhaps greater precautions might have been
taken to obtain • higher class of jurors. He did not mean
to impeach the conduct of those jurors ; all he should say
was, that at this commission, presided onr by a judge of
distinguished ability, no conviction took place ; there had
been no attempt to try again, although no cases had been
removed by certiorari to the Queen's Bench. The Lord
Chief Justice, in his charge to the grand jury on that occa-
sion, referred to the proved existence of a Ribbon associa-
tion, and to the case of Mr. Bateeon, with the dreadful
circumstances under which that murder was committed in
the open day, and the clear evidence there existed that it
had been the result of a dreadful conspiracy. Another im-
portant document, to which he would call the attention of
the house, was • memorial which had been sub-
mitted to the late Secretary of State by the magistrates
of these essaties, signed he 126 magistrate', 3 lieutenants.
the peaty members, including his hon. friend whom he
saw tipped. and 27 deputy liestesaate. The description
which those ialeaselalists gave,. hooded ea local know-
ledge, 00fragnaged esactl with the mar. statement of
the judge. They of the sameselea of murders
and ars.* to warder, seil the mashat ash et intimida-
tion sweating fres seeret asighaeles pareseing the sym-
pathies, or at least the obedienee, of the whole pepulation.
To such en extent did the organisation prevail, that the
law was of no avail, as jurors and witnesses were completely
intimidated. lie put it to the house whether this was not
a dreadful state of things in a district otherwise so ad-
yawed and civilised. (Hear, bear.) Since the special
essamission, an anise had pawed, and no one was put on
his trial, a state of things which in his opinion
required calm and searching investigation. This was
no question of party, as It was the duty of all
indiscriminately to aid in the restoration of law and
order. Having put the house in possession of the
opinions of :my high authorities as to the na-
ture end working of the Ribbon system, he would
advert to the manner in which the law had been brought
to bear on them. The first case was that of 1822, in which
a man named Keenan was prosecuted by the late Lord
Plunket, then attorney-general, for being member of a
, ribbon confederacy, under the statute 60 Oeo. 111. The
object of that prosecution was to expose the character and
objects of the confederacy, in order that it might be gene-
, roily understood by the public, and it was a singular fact
, that the passwords proved on this trial were afterwards
found in Louth by Mr. Hamilton. Soon after the trial of
Henna there was a searching inquiry in the House
of Lords, when Chief Just. Blackburn" was exa-
mined, and he gave evidence 28 years ago which showed
his vast acquaintance with the workings of this system.
, Ho did think that some regard should be had to the
humbler classes, for observe the position in which they were
placed. The peasantry, when the country was visited by
these fellows, were surely not in • condition to resist their
feil tyranny, when it was exercised even over persons in
circus...a of • sash sore favourable character.
(iloar,trae.) lie regosesil that their sympathy was due
, to the Iftsabke dams. People talked of murders being
eeneelteed in the breed day, and a whole neighbourhood',
Inking ea ; but did not know how much of this im-
punity was to iatimidation. (Cheers.) He
knew that the wow dime were grateful for the protee-
ties whisk sessono et as astraerdinary feature the the
atippressisa of aim gave Ikrs, sod he esld quote in-
News mime they hod pethisned hr their con-
d... (Rear hear.) The next of these mea-
sures was Iles *plaid 01111111olion of 1832, and it was
accompealed by a mairelebes of that heel, for it was
to be isselted that geoid coassithes were almost
eseampreseess with pediementary esusiltra. The re-
poet of that =snit. adseled to Or hat that the special
commission, which had dead before they had daished
their labours, had tried IS geese in which id servistione
had bees obeained, the Steel berg et the brasses
of the Marerry-Oewaral who did aft udder the
cyders ealleisat to worm. $ Sad. of . The
cemasittee remedial that the aseseledeso rim themselves
amain eta 1.5.111, belay the law Mopped t 5., sad they re-
warmed. SS the ere. should have as 'oat sa the
spot. That eases ths earbratecl coercion est eff Lied Om
which coatiard hir rose years, and whisk expired hi
183.5. The low this reverted to its mawel slate, and the
attorney-gearalo having given soar seystringest instruc-
tions with repel be letting sadejerposa, the course of
justice was moth haled. He was bawd, however, to say that
his right his. predessear had art MEM the crown
counsel in stria eases. Re bed veey eddy orridered both
W eight sad the duty of the ore. ; sad bed exercised
the eight so as met to put lescrefer peones ea the juries,
but Si ezelude improper paw hen dm. Is feet, he
had erred it to he exerciesiljar in the sore smser as the
wriesser's right of chadasitei pumas when he aliht sup-
pose to have • bias ages. kis. (Neer, hsar.) The c0n-
..., however, el the Imeneeins to whisk he had re-
ferred. was a greaeineresse et Milibeedea, sad In 1838 there
was a committee of the Roane of Lords. That committee
made no report, but their lemidds took a great deal of
evidence upon the workings/the Ribbon conspiracy. That
of Major Warburto• wee posalieely valuable, and -COW-
pletely corroborated die slehamat of the learned
judges, to whickitt OM& login) hod referred. The witnesses
described the HNI gam as beteg padded rather
agrarian. Mr. Hamillea sated thet the -8M...a made
ILO of their moiety le Abet sersaguesate he thmielves as
to land. At swat their pia wee this :—Whis a tenant
was disarmed they cooped. the hem to lie waste,
until the peen' rate sad the ems, ems eseirsalated to an
extent that made the kWhmd gledi to let le at any price.
(Hear, MO Is MO a as. was dined to sea the evils
is elan holosed, end it wee reesarkable hat nearly all
dr fearedwas weds that est were obtained leader the
dare whisk be bed sasedswed se laving beat repealed in
1846. The einesawease et the degrades et that provi-
sion had boss to sulakesavielleas very secs, wad thus to
harease the eel by the very ispaa=whisk was en.
joyed by the perpeweises et the No knew
dot it was essellues add Wt these wen the results of
out sgskitirg the Maim between lealleal sal leant ;
bet be led abesevall dial la saes where tousle were es-
read time were asia af a due that woad sever he bene-
fited by say ableesties is she law. (Hear, Mir.) He had
always esasidired, liewever, that this was a setter of the
greater Ispertenee, and that if the legblature could do
e.t.a. hey ought to do it at owe. (Chess.) Fos
his own pet, be had gives his ber Mention to the 'ab-
ject, and he Spoil dray to lay wpm die tabled die bean
a code of Mr elosplltybeg the ed.et of bra..d sad
Meant ; tai So de es midi as be bedewed Is bh
eareieace that l ie esabi de hr as hail the bawl
sad industrious. Re believed that there was nothing of
greater begarlean to the piss et Izeirad, than that there
druid be • seeseebsediag of the ass of he law in pulling
down by orethaelswel awns the criminality which had
prevailed, (Ifeee leer.) He held in his hand a list of
several need= whisk had bees emaiitted is the seates
to which be bed ideated. dime the Illthesestaldie,
there had bees SOON taw twelve, end la as ease
had there bees imbibe. A geoid was
to gala a dishaled diaist, bat this
ceLent, zPLardease with reepost to those ruder discus.
dea. He was sue that his tier ht.. friend (Mr. Hatehell)
wield agree with him that sash a state of things was
frightful. (Hear, hear.) These woe a fearful • •ainasy
to defeat justice. N they alai ear jury.. bus the
Menu they would lad them depadeat spot their aniatry
eastessers, and when the seise ems ea saliserigliass
world be levied upea this he the Mimeo of the pet-
seem. If they teek then tress the efiealai they were
title to the grand balbodthtlea. (Hem) The duelling
MOBS copy efi Mew whisk he (Mr. Napier) hoil nos.
My dear Rapier—You know what a esosirst reads.
I have ever bees, and how I devoted my time and ISMS
to the imeigoveseat of my Maury, md t. their otwahrt.
To inset the these, I, awe than two redwood
all my sere is Mk this mostry sad By •
valuation. the rent was so arranged that, eseeeedhag to the
corn alf rages et three years, the tenant should have two-
thirds of the value for himself and his labour, and I but
the value of one-third for my land. The average was taken
when corn was lowest, and yet such is the organisation and
intimidation in some districts, thlt those that I know are
not only able but willing to pay, dare not ; and, as to taking
measures to enforce it, that is out of the question, for, en
my bailiff said, no keeper would be allowed to live • night ,
iu it. Rome additional military and police have been sent
into the district, but that cannot reach the root of the cell,
as was proved by poor Chambre's murderous attack, The
Ribbon system ss at the bottom of all, and some act to
reach it must he palmed. In all agrarian offences the venue
must he changed from the county in which they occur ; for
oven if the jurors were faithful and fearless, and disregarded
thereto, the bloody menaces would be addressed to their
wives and fanulies---and, to my knowledge, had
been; and who can stand that? with such examples eel
poor Mauleverer, almost all unavenged by the law." He
(Mr. Napier) propoeed to examine before the committee
Captain Warburton, Major Brownrigg, sod other persons
of great experience. It would then be a matter fur COlaii- •
deration whether they should not restore the clause which '
had been repealed in 1815 ; and adopt some other plan in-
tead of allowing the barony constables to return the '
jurors. At present they often got bribes not to present
persons, and in the Armagh assirep a barony constable was
himself ia the dock for a ribbon offence. (Laughter.) The I
county cese used to he the test fur Pinata, but now there
was the rating to the poor-rata by which the franchise was
adjusted, ant probably the committee would recommend
the substitution of that. It was also proposed to consider
whether powers might not be given to the Court of
Queen's Bench, when the circumstances of the locality d.-

mended it, to NOM eaeer to other districts where ao in-
Banidatkm aged ha bond. (Hear, hear.) The right hon.
simalemema emmishilaimiug the hearty co-operation
at had. winaban, without reference to creed or party.
(Loud cheers.)
Mr. MATCIIBLL, without offering the slightest objec-
tion to the motion, which he thought ought to be acceded
to, justified the course he had pursued in the criminal pro-
secution., and detailed the obstacles be had encountered,
which the inquiries of the committee might remove with-
out altering the basis of the existing law, and thereby
remedy a crying evil.
' Mr. lIALLEWELL commended the motion and the
speech of th • Attorney•Generel for Ireland, observing that
unless the Is, was made a terror to evil-doers, evil-doers
would become a terror to society.
Mr. M'CULLAGH sympathised with much of what had
bass said respecting crime in Ireland, but was of opinion
that this state of things, though it had not been originated,
had been aggravated, by the fearful state of distrust between
dm and class and the oppressive exercise of the right of
•
FThe motion,
after a few remarks from Mr. Grogan, was
then agreed to.
ANNUAL INDEMNITY BILL.
On the motion of Sir W. Jou.lera this bill was brought
in and reads first time.
EXPIRING LAWS.
On the motion of Mr. G. A. liamixros, the following
members were appointed a select committee on Expiring
Laws: Mr. G. A. Hamilton, Mr. Mackenzie, Mr. Attorney-
General, Mr. Bernal, Mr. Stafford, Air William Jolliffe,
Mr. Freohbeld, Mr. Hume, the Marquis of Chandos, Mr.
Greene, Lord Henry Lennox, Mr. Aglionby, Sir John
Young, and Mr. Rayon.
FRIENDLY SOCIETIES ACT.
Mr. SOTHERON, in moving that the order of the day
for the second reading of this bill be discharged, said the
present act expired at the end of the present session. The
main object of the bill was to render the act permanent,
and it contained a few other provisions; but looking at the
state of the session, he now gave notice that he would, to-
morrow, move for leave to bring in a bell, the object of
which would be simply to continuo the present act in force
two years longer.
The order was then discharged
The report of the committee in supply was brought up,
and agreed to.
The house adjourned at 11 o'clock.

7ARY COMMITTEES.

RAILWAY AND OTHER BILLS ON STANDING ORDERS.

1
FOREn OF DEAN CENTRAL RAlLWAY.—Yester-
day, on the re-assembling of the select committee, the
standing orders were declared not to be dispensed with in
favour of this proposed line for a railway frem the River
Severn to the boundary of the Forest of Dean, and a branch
to the South Wales, on the ground of incorrectness of
levels.

OXFORD, WORCESTER, AND WOLVERII•MPTOX RAIL-
WAY.—The application, on petition of Lord Ward, for leave
to deposit a petition against this bill, for extension of time
for purchasing lands and completing works, and for devia-
tions in Kingswinford and Dudley, was refused by the se-
lect committee. _

The standing orders were dispensed with in the cues of
the Swansea Local Board of Health ; Liverpool Corporation
Waterworks (for leave to deposit a petition against) ; and
in the case of the Birkenhead Dock Trustees (for dispensing
with standing order, 152).
LIVERPOOL CORPORATION WATIERWORRS.—Yesterday,
the committee on this measure, consisting of Mr. Alderman
Copeland (chairman), Mr. W. Evans, Sir E. Gooch, Mr. '
Collins, Mr. Bell, Mr. Cardwell, and Sir T. Birch, met for
the first time in committee room No. 9. Mr. Talbot, Q.C.,
opened the case for the corporation, and stated that the ob-
ject of the bill was to deviate the water supply at variotui
places between Hindley and Knowsley, with reservoirs at
various other places. The bill is opposed by Sir J. Gerard,
the Chorley Waterworks, and owner. and occupiers of pro-
perty, for whom counsel and parliamentary agents up-
reared. Mr. Hawkesley, C.E., was examined at great
upon the expedproposed
iency of the deviations,
which would would be greatly advantageous to the district, and
the committee adjourned to this day.
EAST LONDON WATER-WORILS. Yesterday, in Mr.
Bernal's committee, which sat for the first time this session,
the preamble of this company's bill was declared proved.
The object of the measure is for improving the supply of
water from the river Lee, to raise further capital, and fix-
ing such capital at 760,0001., shareholders to have one
share of 1001., and one of 601., in lieu of one now existing
share of 1001., no future call to exceed 161. in the hundred,
the company to be empowered to execute additional works.
Marisein.ti C . .—The preamble of
this company's bill for grant of further powers, and for ad-
ditional capital, was declared proved.
ACCIDENTAL DRATIi INSURANCE AND RAILWAY AS-
SURANCE CONPANIZS AMALOANATION.—The further con-
sideration of this measure was adjourned.
The committee, consisting of Mr. C. Legh (chairmen),
O Mr. Orenfell, Sir . Pechell, Mr. Damn, and Mr. Dawes,
met in room 8, and passed the preamble of the Wolver-
liriston Gas Company's Bill (for increase of capital), op-
by the London and North-Western Railway, and the
Birmingham Canal Companies, and then proceeded with the
Cheltenham Improvement and Health Bills, the further
consideration of which was adjourned to this day.