The Express.
London, England, 1864-05-21 00:00:00

SUPPLY.-CIVIL SERVICE ESTIMATES.

The boom went into committee of supply.
The following sums were voted :-1,517/. for the British
embassy ►ones* at Paris and Madrid. aid 3,2011. for the
British. oonsalate and embassy homer at Constantinople.

=he salt vote of 75,0001. for the new Foreign-office
Mr. A. SMITH weeded to know for whet reason the
total estimate for this work had been increased from
200,0001. to 228,01,31. He also asked for explanation with
rasped to a seas at 4,890/. charged as prebmisary
peon* for design.

Mr. COWPER explained that 200,0004 was Mr. Scott's
estimate of the sum that would be likely to be required.
but they could sesreoly end fault with the estimate. the
pries of labour sad material having rime since it was
framed. The 4,8901. was s charge incurred by his prede-
oessor, the noble lord opposite (Lord J. ?daimon), for the
preparation by Mr. Scott of complete designs for the Gothic
:Ilpeiwhich the house determined after full debate not to

CAPTAIN aslNrs COOKING APPARATUS.
Oa the motion her going into committee of supply,
Conan NORTH moved that this homes would,r=
itemday next, resolve itself into • committee to ixe
of as bumble address to be premoted to her Majesty, pray-
* that she would be graciously pleased to consider the
serviose of Captain Great, and order him some
seilable reward for ha services in improving the
system of cooking in the army, sad effecting a
masidsrable seven is the public expenditure for feel.
The value of Captain Grant's system had been tested by ex.
mince, and received the approbation of General Biel,
General Knollys, Gilman Peesefather, and other high
antborities. It was the means of effecting a great public
swift ie fuel. Mr R. Hill had received cempeneation for
the Mmcable edema which be effected in the Post-alien
gad 5,0001. bad been granted for the invention by which
puny stamps were en gamily separated. Be thereon
thought that genie communion should be made to Captain
Great (Hem, bear.)
The Marquis of HARTINGTON said this question bad
been before the home oe several previous occasions, and be
hoped it would now omen to • final decision. The hoe. mad
gallant gentleman mid that • large saving bad been effected
ia the expeaditare of feel. That was the only ground ea
which Captain Gran peered his claim. Now several
winsome had boa examiaed by the committee last year on
this point, and ie their report they stated that they could
not emecieetimely my that any saying of feel was to be Yesterday morning the Venerable Archdeacon
attributed to Copan Grant's apparatus iodependentJy of Hale held the annual villains of the clergy of the arch-
ether causes. The feel was that the old paten boiler, or deaconry of Lemnos at Si. flepulchrs'a Church, fleowlaill.
aintsia Grast's apparatus et the otwoot town The Archdeacon, in hi charge, called the attention of the
melt beusedecooomically if {homeliest) kaowthebestroamer olerOls as Ares plane to thol increased god incresei
ef usin them. The saving of coal mascot owiug to any oso anal wants of the peplatim, sad to the seaway which
particular apparatus, bet was due to the instructions the mists for en intense= of the maistry to meet them wants,
me received in semomiging the fuel. The Secretary al especially in the densely populated districts. The duties
State for War quite admitted that great credit was due to particularly calling for an rammed number of persons
Captain Grant fee having called attention to the defective properly qualified to perform them were, to Irian from
arrangements which formerly prevailed with regard to hour to house, to inquire into the religious couditkh
cooking in the army. The committee of 1858 had of the family, to read to them the Holy Scriptures, and to
folly investigated that subject, and would no doubt pray with sick peeeoe. The present onetime of the scrip-'
have recommended the improvements that had sines tore readers did not seem wholly satisfactory ; • layman
ben adopted, even though Captain Grant had taken employed in such Meech work should have an sods
we part in the matter. There was nothing of the nature of Mahan character given to him, and this object the
Invention in the system; it was only the adaptation of • archdeacon considered might be attained by the revival and
system whin' was namely known. apparatus was not establishment of the order of aubdoecons. The members
at present erected to new barracks, and the fact was that of the subdiaoonate might share some duties already pm-
while it required • coneemptice at the rate of 11b. of coal farmed by deacons, gosh as reading the Holy Scriptoria and
par man each day. the apparatus mow in use only consumed homilies in the church, instructing the young in the Church
from half • pound to three quarters of • pound of coal Catechism, and egazebues out the sick memos in the pariah.
daily for each man. Under these circumstances, he believed No innovation could be regarded as thereby rietablabed.
that the case of Captain Grant for additional remooention when they regarded the practice in the Royal Navy, sod the
had not been made oet. He was at the time a captain in Forms of Payer appointed to be used at sea. If a Dew order
the artillery on half-gay, and he would probably have been of ministers were required, the greater the dignity attached
pieced on the fall•pay lit while he was employed on big to the office, the greater would be the readiaem of
experiments if he had made an application to that effect. qualified persons to undertake it, for mean offices
Be had been offered 1,0001. as remuneration for his set- sad mean duties should have no place in the church.
Wow, and that was aonsidered a fair sum by the War-office, Some public form of conferring the office should also be
bet be (the Marquis of Haningtos) was not aware whether instituted. Publicity being esesatial to authoritative esiwkw
the ogee had been accepted. to any duty in the church. The qualifications for the office
The hong thee divided : the age sad station of the person to be emitted to, it should
For the original motion lO4 all be properly and authoritatively defined, as well as the
For the amendment 34
proofs which should be required of their own conformity
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to the Church of England and of their knowledge of
OUR RELATIONS WITH CHINA. the Holy Scriptures, together with the proper form of their
Mr. BAXTER /040 to Gal attention to the state of affairs ordination. No moms would be more likely to draw to-
le oth.., and to pet • question to the First Lord of the tether more closely the clergy sad the laity, and the church
lbsesery on the subject. Tim hoc. gentleman said that he might hope for the emmeary meet of the crown is order
was very sniffling to take any course which might be eon- that convocation might take the initiative in the este.
arkind unfriendly to her Majesty's government. Re did blishment and regulation of the subdiaconate. The
answer is the dissatisfaction expressed by boneuuable imams of the diaconate he comidend as azooopt the
gentleman opposite as to the general conduct of best UM= of meeting the growing want@ of the church.
ear foreign affairs by the prawn administration. On the Then was soother breach of this subject, that relating to
eentrarY, the come they had pursued is Europe and the Mersin of the episcopal order, to which he cleated
America had insured the continuance of our peaceful rale- at some length in the year 1858, and to which be might be
dices with those counting. But it was became he approved allowed now to revert. The beauties of her Majesty's go-
of their policy of penes and mointerfersnee is Europe and worriment. as well as the Month at large, had been directed
AlMitiCl, that be could not conscientiously approve of their to it by the present Bishop of Exeter. Why they needed
policy of war and interference in China. He believed the more bishops now than heretofore might not be gems
time had come when • atop ought to be put to • worse of rally known, still lies were persons aware of the pro-
proceeding which was sot creditable to British arms, and vision which the statute law bad made for this conic-
which, if it were much logger persisted in, might lead gency and of the power which the episcopal order pos.
go into difficulties the importance of which it would messed of increasing their number if they were inclined
he hard to examierne. Last year the noble lord to do no. He believed that the Menem in the number
at the head of the government, in reply to of bishops was a question which concerned personally
the noble lord the member for Cockermouth, sad, the bishops rather Mae the church at lane, and which
Wait a year and use the result of our policy." The house must be settled by neoa@ory practice rather than by
and the country had waited • year, end he (Mr. Baxter) theoretical views. There be no doubt that within the
believed that every won spoken by the noble lord mom:rite last 30 years the labours of the episcopal office had been
(Lord Naha) had proved to be perfectly true. Therefore he greatly increased. To speak plainly there had been much
wished to pet • question to the noble lord at the heed of more business to do. This age was remarkable not only for
the SoTornmost—nnon, all would be delighted to as again its activity, but for the changes which had take° plan is
in his place in that beese—(ebeere)—whether he meant in all matters respecting the church, every ens of
the future to adhere strictly and honourably to the defeat» which demanded • share of the bishops' time and
ed British property at our treat ports, and to refuse thought, and consequent labour in correspondence with
&reedy and indirectly every kind of aid to the imp.- all the parties interested in them. This was an age of
liollte in China, and to abandon altogether the; church building se well as cloth repair, and the bishops
attempt to bolster up and support the goverernent ; bad, in addition to such duties, to preside at religious
at Pekin ; and he would him to know what , meetings and in furtherance of %kin's@ more or lea coo-
instructions, if soy, had been sent to her Majesty's agent.' meted with the religious welfare of the diocese. The arch-
is China, and whether they bad been instructed that they ' deacon spoke at some length on the subject of confirmation,
were not in future to accept office under the imperialist ! aad of the seaway of mom more regular plan of its admi-
goveroment, and that they were to refrain from taking any nistration, Whether it was necessary to multiply
steps in support of that government. Now
gentleman whe wee acquainted with the bigot,' of India ' not pretend to determine, but it seemed to him that as
must be struck with the remarkable analogy between the the worn-out ur overburdened incumbent found relief in the
'coition of that country when British merchant' resorted to aseiasenea of a curate, so the bishop might find relief in
it, in the time of Hastings and Clive, and our present pool• the appoint:rent of • suffragan, which he was able to do
boo in China. We had only just begun to develop the under Crammer's Act, and there were many excellent man
eivihation of India, which had so recently become a part to be found who would cheerfully perform the duties of a
of bee Majesty's dominions, and we ought cot to mix this suffrage° without being expected to he recommended in •
soestry up with sew responsibilities, but hold imamate ton& if lirr to succeed to the bishopric when vacant. The
aloof from the internal affsii •of such a °poetry al China. act of pariktoseat foe haffragaiss was so little understood
Lord PALMERSTON defended the Chinese policy of that he purposed Mona it at length as an appendix to the
ministers*. Mist in accordance with the wishes of the collection of the charges on the manioc of the ministry,
meatry generally and the commercial classes in par- which would shortly be published, and to which the present
licelar. He observed that they bad interfered io the pm. charge would form the introduction. Some practical out-
most mutest simply for the purpose of protecting our treaty ties were discusad, arid the visitation was brought to •
sights when they were endangered, cad our national in- close.
tenets when they were et stake. With regard to the _ _ _
Teraings, wherever three ragamuffins appeared there
the country was laid waste and the people reduced to THIINDEILSTOKMI3.—For several boars last nip lit
Mention ; and this was a state of things which he thought the metropolis was visited by a severe storm of thunder and
mold not be madmen to British interest., or that it was Relining, accompanied by • stead,. and at times heavy
desirable should be mended to the immediate oeighbour rain. The midland counties were similarly visited dories
hood of the treaty ports. So far ea the ieforroatioo in the the afternoon. Our Manchester correspondent writes :
of the government went, it seemed that the re- A heavy thanderstorra burst over Manchester yesterday at
Moe had been aawriewed within a much more restricted noon, accompanied by dation of rain, and lasted several
Mete than it was • year or two ago ; and if be were to hours, bet we Magda no casualty. After a long raja" of
speculate on the future at all, he believed he should be dry, gunny weather, such as has prevailed in the neighbour-
wafer in predicting that the insurrection was approach • hood, the rain was much wasted, and will do good Navies to
Mg its end thee the government of Pekin. If the agricultural and horticultural interest. Cur Hermitic-
that covenant were to fall, and the Tespinp ham correspondent writes :—A thunderstorm passed
were to succeed tom, so other result thee anarchy over this town between 4 and 5 o'clock pester-
must ensue ; sad hie ecievictiou was that by putting day ; this was accompanied b • shower of hail,
down the rebellion the Emperor's government would not the particles being larger than good-sized peas
ealy gain emblems foe themselves, but confer great ad- Oar Liverpool correspondent mys:—On Thursday night
wastages upon tbe cceramercial interest' of England. The and ynner&y Liverpool was visited by • series of heavy
sable lord also remarked that it was not intended to anti -in thuodsratorms, which had • most beneficial effect in re-
alm direct ioterferesee ins the military or naval service of dining the temperature from tie week's average of 78 to 65.
Mina as between the government and the Taping., The thunder, lightning, and rein were worthy of the tropical
beyond the protheise to be afforded to the radius or 30 regions, bat fortesstny no serious damage has been re-
make frees the treaty ports; and if the commercial com ported. The lightning was sees to strike the steeple of St.
smite meld be congelted mad their opinion asks', he had George's Church, but it fortunately glided off apparently
ea &CM they wend my, " For fleiven's sake protect on sabring injuring the strunnim—A terrific Minder storm
monism with Chia" over the city sad county of Hereford yesterday. The
Mr. LIDDELL iresseded the reply of the rob!. lord as =ones called The Grove. at Asbperton, was struck by
• meatisfeetery. and warned the bees@ how they ea- the electric fluid, and received some damage. A steal Seek
esersipd • May shish men Urethan disestrnally to our of moo and lambs wee killed at K. e, agar that city,
Wend, in that part et the world. sad various damage has hem by timber in dit
Mom aserniams mere also made apon the su*eh by WIWI PM of the 0014.

WILLIAMSMr. wanted to know when the Foreign-4So,
wee likely to be Galahad, for the expense of hiring buildings
for public came was perfectly moutroue.

Mr. SMITH. alluding again to the charge for designs,
complained that there should have been such delay in
sending in the claim, and observed that in the architect
accenute for 1860 there was an architect charge of 2.000 f.
for preparing designs, and TOW. architect commimion.
He again drew attention to the paucity of members
pesemit.

There beim may 28 members in the house the Chairman
reported the fact to the SPIAIII, who upon his arrival
found than were only 29 or.eniben present. The house was
masequeatly adjourned at 20 minutes to 8 o'clock.

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