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isilylakiag plass. It bee been said that I wentlsanchsa
about the mealy at that time. (Laughter.) It is true
that my boa. Mead, the member for Bristol, said to me on.
day that, when the Mee separated for the holidays, it
mad give great gratiestation to his Meads at Bristol RI
mild attend a meeting of a literary society at that place.
• day was named for the purpose ; and when I was eosaing
Spew the arid, being at the boas, of my brother, he ia-
Bimedi as that his neighbour* at Bedford would be big*
podia VI =aid attend • literary meeting there. lan.
with those two invitations; and I certainly did met
mush time on the study of what I Meld say Nora.
(Laughter.) As President of the Council thus meetings wen
=I very slim from the object of the Vice which I held,
But peed= from this to • me important subject, I must
my that I have attended all the Mast councils that have
mot. And, upon this aubjeet, I will state that I wiete Se]
tag noble friend, Lord Aberdeen, to say that I sumpessill
there would be MUM at the beginning of October, sad
that I slab be may to attend them whenever they met.
aslie hind Yam& me that he should not ram
▪ Ilistiel all alma the 14th Oct. On the lYth of Or
Wei a Mb= eennell met, and I thought it my duty to
mod. Bat I. the course of that month and the beginning
st trees melt of November, it struck me that a Uttar ad-
sdableillea a affairs relating to the war was required:
(OW. IBM Oa Opposition.) I made spiny mind with
iensidemilie Insult,. The matter Masted, in some de
greet, the rtaidatien et • cameo who had net leg helm
armed sem; but still I thought It a duty, end • sorra*
palms sassed between my noble friend at the head et
the governs's* mad myself, from which I ant obliged
to read soles =trade la order to put the am is
pomades of *spotted' upon whisk I came to lay Milks ea
Tuesday mid= lest. The eorrespoadence itself le'long;
it eaten into details sad saute perusal matters whit* it is
quite naseessury to quite; bat as it is, I mast request
the home to liana to the application which I thought it
Imo my duty to make. I wished, If possible, to pat the
matter la • light that would bear ratherthe air of a different
Wield unagement than any displeasing= of • colleague
from oleos. I therefore stated the quid= of the War De-
partment In two points of view :—The one, as concerning
the maspateats which it was necessary to make is erne-
queue. of the pledge given to this house last susios—(hear,
hear)—that the whole of the War Department should be
considered with a view to sash arrangements as should beet
provide for its eilloieney ; the other point, that which re.
pad to the carrying on of the war. (Hear, hear.) With
rasped to the first point, I said I thought it was of the
utmost importance that • pen= ,with the rank of privy
coundlior should hold the Mice in this house, upon which
devolved the moving of the war estimates, and by which
authority he might be able to answer the =-
dem dielcult questions which I foresaw mut
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beim the boon. I will not trouble :the house will
soktttlti in that pert of the question ; but I proposed that
WO Ass of Beentary of State sad Secretary at War Maid
is OM by the same person. The date of that letter is the
117th of November, 1864 : " From the other point
at view (I continued) the prospect is equally dear,
Ws au in the midst of a great war. In order to airy as
Mat war with elleiency, either the Prime Minister Naas
be mastaatly urging, hastening, completing the sallitsey
peepeastions, or the Minister of War must be strong smith,
▪ essarel ether depaelaisais. (Chem.) Every ettiessisal
of ether Ministece—the plea of foreign interests to be
stlemiled to, of naval preparations not yet complete, and a
timmashil ethers, justifiable in the separate heads of depart-
iamb, suet be forced to yield to the paramount necessity
eferseryfag on the war with efficiency of each service, sad
1111110011allaS of seam to the end in view. . . .If,
limeade= the list considerations here presented lead to
Me sessissits that the Secretary of State for the War Ds.
Foremost meet be in the House of Commons, the latter eau
aideratioas peat to the necessity of having in that Mace a
man who, from experience of military details, from inherent
vigour of mind, and from weight with the House Of
Commons, eat be expected to guide the great operations
of war with authority and success. There is only one
lemon belonging to the goverment who combines
these advantages—my conclusion le, that before Par-
ibas= meets Lord Palmerston should be entrusted
OW the seals of the War Department. (Cheers.)
That was the opinion which I gave confidentially to Lord
Aberdeen. Before I read Lord Aberdeen's answer, I will
say that, he having requested some days to consider a matter
of so much importance, I wrote to him again on the 18th,
to say that I quits concurred in that delay, and I added,
"I wish, however, that before you decide you should show
my letter to the Dake of Newcastle. It was my intention
is writing the letter to avoid throwing any blame upon
lathed, I think he deserves very great credit for the seep
doss he has made. But he has not had the authority regall
alto for so great • sphere, sad has not been able to do all
that might have been dons with larger powers of control."
Lead Aberdeen replied—misstating my proposition, I =MI
say-.that he could not agree to the proposal. On the 21st of
NOMA*/ be writes thus :—" Tour proposal being founded
en the supposed impropriety of Herbert moving the estb
mates, and the eonesquent necessity of the Secretary of State
for War being in the House of Commons, renders tie
removal of the Dake of Newcastle from his present *Rai
unavoidable. But, although you would regard this u the
Imitable malt of an official amusement, it is not to be sup.
mud that it would be considered in this light by the public,
er, indeed, by say impartial person. The dislooatioa of the,
government would be so great, and the reason assigned fer it
apparently so inadequate, that it could only be Moldered as
a made of substituting one mat for another. Although you
may be far flea entertaining any such desire, the Venue.
Hen could receive no other interpretation. In justice to the
duke I do not think that his colleagues, without very strong
grounds, would wish to place him in such a position."
Lord Aberdeen, in the other part of his letter, stated that
he did not think that any man could undertake the duties
which I proposed should be undertaken by one person,
namely, those of Semetary of State for the War Department
sail at the WIG time Secretary at War. He considered it
to be necessary that • privy councillor's Mice should be
Matsised, and that office connected with the fineness of
the army, independently of the Secretary of State for the
War Department. He stated also--a consideration well
deserving of atteation—that it might be desirable hereafter
that some military chief who was in the Roma of Lords
should hold the Wee, sad therefore it would not be always
held by a member of the House of Commons. After m-
elded= the various objections of Lord Aberdeen, I
wrote on the Mit of November, 1864, as follows:—" I
oesse, therefore, having cleared the ground of all the ob•
'freedoms to the real qualms, to what are the requirements
of the great war in which we an engaged ? Setting aside
all kistoeleal references, both on your part and mins, I
think it is dear either that the Prime Master mast be
himself the salve and moving spirit of the whole machine,
or the Meister of War must have delegated authority to
control other departments. Neither is the cam under the
present umagesamt.
The Cabinet has, it is true, in Its meat aseetags, done
much to repair esalernwei; but • Cabinet is a cumbrous and
unwieldy instrument for carrying on war. It at famish
suggestions, or make a Maas upon • measure submitted
to it, but it mast adadaister. What you west, therefore,
I repeat, is a Minister al Wee of vigour and authority. As
the wellies of the empire and the messes of oar present
'saint are seassemi, I have ao ample in saying so. Keep
up, if you think right m a temporary arrangemat, •
Suretary at War. Maks it elm that it is temporary—
that is to say, only to last till more complete canolidatiou
sea take plea; but let parilemeat and the country be
aimed that yea have pissed the ceadaot of the war in the
beads of the Attest ma who sea be fenced for that duty."
In seam le this I ressived a long letter hese Lori Aber-
deen, from yid= I will read some memo, dated the bah
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Nov. He says :—" After an, I think your letter plainly
realms the mediae to the simple Issue of a personal pre-
Imam sad the sehatitation of cue sea fir another. In
seem S. my eaggestim, that some eassidentim was due
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