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MEDICAL BILLS.

The first three orders of the day were roe- the
second reading of the Medical Practitioner*Bkeihr
Medical Profession and Medical Corporatices Bill'
and the Medical Profession Bill, and the debreeruponi
the first unavoidably extended to and embraced tint
others.
Mr. CovrrEn, in moving the second reading of 'lie:
first-named bill, explained its principle and details.
Mr. BLACK, who was hostile to all the three bills,.
having missed the opportunity of calling for a.division
at this stage, and the bill having been road a second
time, moved to defer its committal for six months.
Mr. BRADY supported the bill.
Mr. WALPOLE, premising that all the bills con.
tained principles worthy of consideration and of
adoption, and that the subject was encumbered with
difficulties, said he thought the best thing lie aouba
do was to point out the evils and anomalies, and the.
remedies required, and to consider how far those
provided in the several bills were sufficient ;. and
this led him to a critical examination of the diree
bills, and to a comparison of their objects anti.
provisions. He concluded by laying down cerniiit
leading principles which, in his opinion, should pith:
legislation in this matter, and recommended that
the bill immediately under discussion should be.
made the basis of a measure that would meet the
objects which all had in view. For this purpose he
offered to prepare clauses to be introduced into the
bill in committee.

Ultimately, after a long diicussion, the amendment
was withdrawn, and the bill was ordered to be com-
mitted on the Bth of June.

Mr. T. DUNCOMBE then postponed the second
reading of his bill, the Medical Pro'ession and
Medical Corporations Bill, and the other bill was
withdrawn by Lord ELeno.

PROPERTY QUALIFICATION.

The adjourned debate upon the order for goin;
into committee upon this bill was resumed by
➢lr. RENTINcK, who objected to the principle of the
bill, but his chief objection, he said, was that it was.
part and parcel of a Reform Bill, and that it was not
fair to call upon the house to deal with only a
portion of such a measure. He justified the reten-
tion of rti property qualification, in the absence of
which, he observed, there was no reason why any
ntm►ber of bankrupts might not obtain admission
into the house. He cited the recorded objections of
leading members on both sides of the house to the
abolition of this qualification, including Lord Pal-
merston, Sir G. Grey, and Mr. Henley, and moved to
defer the committee for six montl►s.

Mr. K. SEYMER, looking at the example of Scot•
land and the working of the principle of non-qualifi-
cation there, and believing that our qualification laws.
were really a snare, while they were nugatory Tor
theirintended object, supported the bill.
Mr. Ditummorin said he regarded this as the first
attempt to separate power from wealth, and if pro-
perty was dissociated from power, it would be im-
possible to preserve it.
Sir G. LEWIS said the view he took of this mea-
sure was diametrically opposite to Mr. Drummond'..
The real security for the social position of the mem-
bers of that house, in his opinion, consisted in the
power of coming forward as candidates, and sub-
mitting to the ordeal of an election. The substactial
property qualification for a seat in that house wouid,
after the passing of the bill, remain as it was; while
pitfalls, and those objections which were a scandal to
their proceedings, would he removed.
tlr. NEWDEG TE said he was not prepared to
reverse the votes which he had given in favour of the
maintenance of a property qualification as requisite
for admission to seats in the house. He knew not
what reasons might actuate her Majesty's Govern-
ment in the course which they seemed inclined to
take, but he was sine of this, that the members of
this house, who have for years voted in support of a
property qualification, and who suddenly and for no
assigned reason reversed their votes, would have an
awkward explanation demanded of them by their
constituents. The hon. member for Dorsetshire has
argued, that because the Scotch members are not
required to have a property qualification, therefore
none ought to be required of the members for
England and Ireland, and he has alluded to the Scotch
one pound nous as a peculiarity of that country
which currency reformers think should be extended to
England. He ( Mr. Newdegatel was not about to argue
whether we ought or ought not to have one.pound
notes in England, but he begged his hon.

friend to consider why the Scotch have one pound
inotes when the English have none. It was plain that
rho Scotch have retained their one-pound notes,
because they have shown that, owing to their manner
of transacting business, and owing to the system of
banking which is peculiar to that country, they know
how to use these one pound notes safely, and that
the retention of them is essential to their material
interests ; this is a ptivilege adapted to the peen-
itarities of Scotland, and he held that it was most
unwise to neglect these national peculiarities, or to
atttemFt to enforce an arbitrary uniformity in treasures
applicable to the three countries. It would be to
;ignore peculiarities and difficulties which you cannot
:annul. He therefore answered his honourable
friend's argument by his own instance, " The Scotch
have one pound notes while we have them not in
England." (Hear, hear.) But his principal objec-
ition to this measure was, that it ought not to be an
isolated measure, but to form part of a general
scheme for the reform of the representation of the
ipeople. He thought that a Reform Bill ought to
;he introduced—a comprehensive scheme of reform
'such as would enable the people to weigh one
provision of the measure against another, and thus
to form an intelligent and sound opinion of the
;general effect of the measure upon the represe n-
ltative system of this country. He condemned this
piecemeal system of reform, because it virtually
:proposes to effect great changes without the know-
ledge and consent of the people of this country
—(Hear, hear)—for men engaged in business and
.daily avocation cannot keep their attention fixed
upon the constant current of measures passing
through this house. Piecemeal reform, therefore, is
reform carried on behind the backs of the people of
this country, if be might he allowed so to express
himself. (Hear.). He objected to this measure on
Wiese grounds, but still more strongly because he
aloaoidered that these isolated measures formed parts
.of a system of agitation ; that they are intended to
.00llect A certain amount of spurious popularity for
ale mailers and supporters of them, and to entail
&hum tow the House of Lords on account of their
rejection. Katlear, hear.) He stated this last night,
And theirtaliesiad to the same opinion to day. (Hear.)
In conclusion the repeated that he refused to reverse
the votes which he had given against this measure
where no new @w and for his doing so was shown.
(Hear.)

Mr. KNIOHTLEY Pad Sir W. FARQCHAR spoke
,against the bill, and

Mr. HENLEY said be retained the opinion he bad
Winerly expressed, that this question belonged to a
Larger subject.
t; pon a division the amendment was negatived by
fte AO 109.
The house then went into committee upon the bill,
where the principle and policy of the measure were
redigcussed but the clauses underwent no alteration.

Some other bills were advanced a stage, and the
house adjourned at twenty minutes to six o'clock.

HOUSE OF LORDS-THURSDAY.

lEarl ST. GERMANS called attention to the number
dl,iestions on several different subjects of which
notwie had for some time been given by Lord
King-film (who was not present) ; none of those
o.lleStMini had been asked, and he thought it was very
inconvenient to retain them so long on the paper.
The Karl of MALMESDURY admitted the inconve
mence, particularly to the Government ; but giving
notice of questions was a matter that must be left to
the discretion of their lordships; in the present case
there was no remedy.
A short conversation took place on the subject,
'during which Lord CAMPBELL remarked that one of
the questions involved a charge against Rajah Brooke,
and, from the publicity given to the questions, that
• charge was circulating through the country without
any reply.
Lord REDESDALE thought Earl St. Germans should
have apprised Lord Kingston of his intention to refer
to the subject.
Oa the motion of the LORD CHANCELLOR, the Non •
.Parochial Register Bill was read a second time.
The Chancery Amendment Bill was, after some dis-
'cession, read a second time, and referred to a select
,committee.

Lhe Earl of CARNARVON, in answer to Earl Powis,
11tubiJ that the arrangements for dividing the diocess
of %eiar Zealand were nearly completed.
INA Marquis of BREADALI3ANE gave notice that he
shotili.on Friday put a question to the Government
for the purpose of ascertaining what are the relations
in military matters between Sir Cohn Campbell
the Governor-General of India, and the Commander

Their lordships then adjourned.
HOUSE OF COMMONS—THtrik.nAv.

On the report of the Committee of Supply,
Mr. HORMAN took occasion to vindicate himself
from a charge made against him during his absence
'on a preceding night by Mr. M'Mahon, of having,
in the two years he had held the office of Qkief

Secretary for Ireland, neglected its duties, affirming
that not only were the facts stated not consistent
with the truth, but that they were (not meaning
thereby any personal offence to Mr. Al`Mahon),
diametrically opposite to the truth. In the course
of his vindication Mr. Horsman gave a pleasant
description of the duties of the Irish office in London,
which it appeared were not sufficient to employ a
salitary clerk.

Mr.-M'Muros, in replying to Mr. Horsman, made
some rather strong remarks upon that gentleman's
parliamentary conduct.
Sir G. GREY bore testimony to the efficient manner
in which Mr. Horsman had filled the office of Chief
Secretary ; but

Lord SliAsiave the most unqualified contradiction
to his representation of the amount of business apper-
taining to that office.

The matter, after some further discussion, was
allowed to drop, and the report was agreed to.
On the order for going into Committee of Supply,
in reply to Mr. WISE,
Mr. S. FITZGERALD stated that Mr. Tulin, re-
cently Vice-Consul at Oran, had been appointed
Consul at Mobile, and that a certificate of naturali-
zstion had been refused to hint ; and explained the
grounds upon which be had been appointed to an
American Consulate, there being no legal impedi-
ment to the appointment.
The house then went into a Committee of Supply
upon the civil contingencies, and was occupied
with the discussion of the various votes until mid-
night, when the chairman was ordered to report
progress. _ _

On the order for going into committee on the
Joint-stock Banking Companies Bill, moved by Mr.
HEADLAM,
Mr. BUCHANAN moved that the debate be ad-
journed; but this motion was negatived upon a
division.

Mr. Wit.som then moved that it be an instruction
to the committee that they have power to extend the
provisions of the bill to insurance companies; but,
atter some discussion, this motion was withdrawn
on the ground of irregularity, and the committee
was postponed.
The Hainault Forest (Allotment of Commons) Bill
passed through committee.
The Ecclesiastical Corporations Leasing Bill was
read a third time and passed, as well as the Property
Qualification Bill, after some remarks by Mr. BEN-
TINCK and Mr. DRUMMOND.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER obtained
leave to bring in a bill to repeal certain provisions
for the issue out of the Consolidated Fund of fixed
amounts for the reduction of the funded debt.

The house, after some further business, adjourned
at a quarter past one o'clock.