The Express.
London, England, 1852-04-28 00:00:00

Wei intimated that he would vote against the
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eared SIBTHORP would coisseet to • Eli. franchise
fee read= bet 10f. was too low. It ereell swamp the
midi rusty t essetheeneles.
Lad J. EU (who spoke in • veep= Wee of '
sees) wet eadtmehmed be may—l feel it my haw te vote
shies this ha Dat I doe esetainly est elle rap vote
rilMarie wean Inn by the ads lieh meow
e Oder= (Lee J. kosten)—as rad,
per '
semsly, that the direeded • bill of this Metli
the prep= ot the este= towards a dimities. If the
gerterest we to way eel they were easiest to rules
with the isilleeratile peak brims, we
this bill =dee hem= eassiissattess. Better have
the oversees= sot asked he Trek" dry Wee =e
rest reinetent to take the Thessige. amestee, sad
wheel "Oh, ob.") I ems= thememe, parrive the
objesties to taking a sosermsof the ammeter of that
sew Mere es, on a Tuesday. (Haar, hear.) It oppress
to me certainly that it is a hie meal= he rah
deentime In this house what shell be the astemat of
an occupation franchise for comes. The Rehm Let
sustained a clause introduced by the Marquis of Chasidim, 1
wide conferred the franchise lor settees upon SOL tenants
at will. The late governess= were is Ireland an Si.
sad a 121. occupation freebie was agreed to
Ledlilitiltism' sow the law is Isolate. Is a bill which I intro:
thee during the reseed derisive laughter)—l
proposed le rider Sr 601. q• = to a 20/. qualifies.
ties In English mention So that it errs to me, weeding
set only to the propritiess of deism= nemeolues, bet as-
ending to the changes peed to by pertinent an sea-
tampion by govenurste, with super to the temelke,
that we may fairly consider such • bill as that et the
boa obellair for Surrey. But I ewe, sir, it =per to me,
Y reed le measures of this kind, peepers =pees
eel with
the tersty fasseities, that it would be - wir to hie to the
rased =arras= of the represeerties, end that it
weed be de bet= that ppaarrliament, sets it lees resider
this mitojest, shoed oeesfdrr it as a whet, an mat be alter-
ing from time to Ease the franchise for rest= sad after-
wards in separate acts the franchise for borearbs. (Hear,
her.) On this seideet I cannot say that I differ rue
boa what I saw Aleut of the opinion of the has. anti
learned gesesemes the Attorney-Oessend, whim I see Ipp-
on& I nadoesteed ha to isq that he thought it of
importance that the wirer ef the lentereldPolicy
of the seem, awl be settled, a= that we then
proceed to Mee= awseasee; and not bere, for the tietele
of the representation 0 the people. I meet say, bower=
I entirely Dee with hint as to the statimet he role that
the coupe, is sow in a state of ruin owing to the memo
called the free trade measures. Equally de I her with
the noble lord the member for Colchester and the right
boa. gentian= the Secretary for the Cohehe is re-
se= gard to the alleged ruin to the colonies Era the
mated seser.: I she diee item the
has.. gesthesen the meaberAnd be lionenegb OIL Cf: P.
Young), who uses to be .muted that the
=ten= ere is • elalities 0 =lee pirtmliea I
es the smeltery, that whes these onseeteps, arm es free,
trek lamer= memo I. be swesamed A the sew parr
swat, the Hoer of Cermet= with the sppobalisa of as
many, will declare that then moue= gemsallt eel.
leetllvslleetivel , and individually, have greatly *meted the
of the ormatey ;
she that, thenehre,
toit will be
the date sif pediment seelatela sad erten
these Meeellelle. But I de tide that that greet flew
ties abseil mei= a deers be we begin
sena* to smear mewans ft the stets of
as werontatios. I was very to hoer the
ante in the
member for say, r I
lailwelsee hie to say that the press= t would
be any to ensue is aay Mown he the
tiqated patilemset. (Lin Saha diweated.)
that I be set misrepressat the oak len la base-
by he rid that this was a question wry hid, open to
the earkilestise of this or say ethic peillnisat ; sad, I
bin nudes, whoa we have den with ths weed= of
ear Ann seemesedel policy, thimble In nee/an ia 1
the view I should tee with repel to bang with the a-
preseetation.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said—l
hive been entire to say • few words in this de-
bate, the . awn especially es the noble tied who has
jar addressed you seers to have greatly =map-
rigiwkat was and by the noble lord (Lord
strie._ _ ). I certainly did not undmtend my
melds friend to may ,that her Melesty's government was
" casein in any nisesum" for the relent at
ambl to
e. (Cheers.)
Lord J. RUSSELL—The right hen. ggusustlsmee it is
NM. I said, " to concur in a well essaus."
Meer. hear.)
Mr. DIEDAILL—Sir, I think it is evident that to "see-
seer" en to " cower" are two very different thaw.
(Ls= obese) I sued, rase& be My sorry if mayhem.
gnaws wadi art be yearn ion le 07•Iihte II lee&
tele:er na an breast at aessaor OM it would sad the
animas d
eninn (Lan win
lens et Sew, 142
I hen se an twain as est this
of yedissentss7 seam that ens if the weed Awe—
(lsseliise)..4loB Ma at iwad—(bar, lasor)—l weak
within es essaist ulnae, barely waters tomlan ea
yew atewaisa at pawn Bet I have se nib et A se
wawa sly Maw with respect SO de rainier nommi.
I have ee dais to and giving say again stilt; banes
et the penis; nesownses et the penal anew MS
etas. to this sense As wins MOM :—I ehleet lie
is the AM elm. leagues It h pude". (Heft kw
I think that he wenn was be viewed ea a
mach Imps wile thaw that which is nignel by
tin the hat. lieletleelle the manes As
lust Sestey.prepense M et
aw, hear.) Aut I have Wee esellar la
jean Os this hi I base shoo sal to lib heno-1 so-
peat it an, in it is as nyeense el a ilestsal inn
esavisties that ow pert.obst I thin that la as
ties of that memeeitle law, the Rohn Apt et illriar.
.... • ailli..44.lllolelikh ameleed is • weet
of deemseeemesese • et the rhino et the
lag demo to the freashise ; sad I own tin Tt,
toy yin; os a sewn esiesits, to bete the asblia4
had et that law sabonsige that a ism
had Wan Ina to bill the mane entisa—sa
whisk be sesteisly bay sedeloi tan Wien be t
peat itakway la se/ owl= pi wywessalisa I sew
redly sense unmesten hew ills sew es the other
menses nab Urn Mee se 'man; are at
all to met theddelateg, User ollis":11-egelesa, bewever
we may =Sri le .miler le the anseetemeste that
then eested—l re= to the of the herscra—there
is so doubt that the WOW of the kkester were
rek...amlsdEld .leLlimild We eineelly do-
those wpm In none nen that the rig ta
iiiirtiasaysweessmines nown. But the Isonas which
gamin that oweasney met millefed you
mai A Alt.
we astaelly lessinatei awe rights—the Rani Wins ol
labor nth the sire et bosses were ilastreyeL I as sot
ter • wenn nib asw to =lawn eat awe wen sot
snag masses why the *Wong atangsateats Wind be
Wean with ; but, tan Inver hen • ream why •
wen t could set have bin substi-
tuted: sew of (Hear. boar.) I tree h
of tbe nesalsat la this esoot, nigh at nose beemb7sn
raiblib wia awn to as Inn bet of IMO,
thealirenwha le whisb I have ativerwa. (Rear,
,hzil WA as% sie; what Ms ben the remedy
has Ista easel by these who ateeemis to
themeless the the peeve of representing sad anyisa.
laanw tbe rights stile nabs classes 1 They one Aswan
they rayon a renaly is is feet • bap
den et et the sinste, Tinny niwhichnon Whip ; an that
needy is to threw the whole power se as lass the
bins et a awe slam. (Cheers.) I of sari= a
elliolibriAq which gives to property all the debts of aro-
=l:firMilk=sletkleab°eXtealnicettritri ribew.wilth
triskesistaime.thle
iota aaspolit adotlheraphise, of
et the orwilitior,of this , my o mar n:
Warsaw et its sear, bulb social sail tbeY Pe-
nes, as • nostly, • own wink Nesalially Is • measure
of class legimiriss„ bermes they peones to give political
autheeity to • dem so annerees that they wen be able
to entirely downs the eawastisa se as sowelly. (Lewd
sheen.) To walk • thaws I en spined, began herald
In a name Is the constitution, awl Wenn as I think,
It would most injuriously asset the team and condition
of the souse. (Chews.) But thus, ilit, that is me wean
why we dead set nobler ae iwporteat
whether so hantrial Mashie soy est bervialetka7
wadi• wend en estiastisa to the* who have
a tint an the et the entry.
net is a twain whin I which the ante lard
neeeez=odi end yid* MI the and led as-
k it, I seatanesil ss which deserves
' greet sonalimethe easy mils remp saeossibl thee he the good go-
wns* of ay sowely. Pat I elk yes is this missies
la year Misr Ast—the wane of so meth public discon-
tent, ad wide may lied aldstottely to public disorder—
by the mann sew Mare as Moss ? Oa the ontrary I
for what Ism bow mann sodas with the Ina mar

her be- HEM complain that property is eves
tea Mush we tees, in existing Geastitumeies,
let us Ns what the *sewer mode to the claims
of O&M by the lea amber and his sib* The an-
'serer is "he will repeemat property still mess." (Cheers.)
That, at any rate, is pre answer, in this kV, hon.
oentlemae. (Cheers ) Sir, 1 cannot flpar WHIM lega-
lities so crude, uses, tss I believe, founded Ugh pee
nines principW I say this on the part ef mooff bed en
the part ettilysegurie—l have said it belle% owl I re-
peat it now, in Witt that our opedees may net be
derstood—that we& act laments es Mesita Ohs suf-
frage mutually with the extension of demaseelle .
(Cheep.) I! I Swag see ea IMMO few-
ward—well aot la peesioa,
bat with a shessimitin 4hre at 'Mei to eisse4melakaas thee
enemies el the seilimpe hi • me rase with the
mintemenes at these inesitstises whisk believe an as
mach hr the intrests of thus Wham es they are for the
interests of say Wee awe of this issoatry—l
mash a wpeornldeive
and rmmenii them with whoa I aid, Istics:
sa
a drapeasteathskhsd assiderraisa. (Chews.r. But,
sir, the 'Min et the bat. pendernars is not of this Glass ;
end luta einseineffienia is bowl* horsed which, so I think,
awls the diihnieka mad solonmeiss et the ere, is well en.
tided lathe sesmiiwidiss et enetiment, I mat lake ley stand
am the settlement which eniste—net am say supsntl-
trees moreess fir that esthensent, bet bums I am op-
reed to year Mir year taspering with time anstitution, a
teaming whichi em esavhsail is the seam of political
weekasselmil of (" Hear," and cheers)
The pressat mewasiment have only ow object, en
object which I sinesedy believe is OM sideat of all
the members of this hens% the good iloolosoloot of
the **marry. (Mom) Bat they desire to see the
greats= of the mins maintained and the preepe-
rity Si the people enbeemnd. And if a change
in the franchise is only prommed as a mate of
obtain* political power and of exciting political
agitation—(cheer)--te sash proposals we must give our
unconditional tad unempromising oppoeitioo. (Loud
cheers) I will net orb in sympret for the hon. member for
East Surrey, that the present Is a measure of this kind.
But I must nevertheless describe it ea essentially unsatafec-
tory, not calculated is any degree to meet the exigenicy of
the state of affairs, use wikb I can easily understand may
lead to much disturimaes and re-adjustment, but which
at the use tints ant condom* to no permanent
or enduringly osseplehis settlement—and, therefore, I
must give le it--eatlemerme this is the last session of the
existing Firths's!. bet besauss I would take the same
view tends any Whir eirammetssosa—an unqualified oppo-
sition. (Loud sheers)
lir IL HALL (mid loud cries of " divide," from all parts
albs haw) insisted, despite the sanctity of the hour, on
fieinfaizats,ara en wvigusarks upon what bad fallen from the
gentleman who had just sat down.
Mks. pntionen had placed himself, by this address,
itnagely at nehmen with the policy announced by Lord
Der
by on tanner *See. Lord Derby had distinctly de-
elandagainst all further " revolutionary' extension of
the suffrage. The right hon. gentleman bad invited reform.
(Hear, hear.) But was this concession a reality • or was it
merely a new miserable clap-trap ? Meer, ear.) The
defect found by the right hon. gentleman in the
act of 1832 was, that it had too much excluded
the working elutes. Wu the house to infer from this unex-
pected intimation, that when parliament met again, after
this session, the government would be prepared with a
measure extending the suffrage to the artisan elate? (Hear,
Year.) It was a sham or it was ',milky ; and it must soon
be tested. Probably the right hon. gentleman had become
a convert to the doctrines of free trade, had tongued the
cry of protection, and bad now hit on this new claptrap to
catch the sweet voices of the people. (Oh.) If the nght
hon. gentleman was sincere in what he had just said, it
could only be his intention to bring forward a measure of
parliamentary reform, and if so, he ought to say so at once.
(Hear, hear.) He (Sir B. Hell) would be glad to see the
right boa. gentleman reappearing as the radical reformer
which he had confessed himself, or pretended to be, when
be was turning his attention to the borough of Maryle-
hoc ("Hear, hear," and laughter.) The soneti•
teensy which the right honourable gentleman the
Woe Secretary had contemplated creating would have
been a constituency of loutish clowns, perhaps feeder' of
r pigs la farmyards, and whose only possible qualification
' would be a height of five feet two inches, and two years of
drilling (" Hear, heir," and cheep.) And yet the go-
I vernmest which would rust a constituency like this would
refuse the franchise in couuties to every man not paying
I tell SOL a year rent. (Hear, hear.) But 'if the government
amain to Introduce a measure such as the right hon.
geotleaas had jut described, he (Sir B. Hall) would for
one be glad of it.

Mr. LOCKE KING replied. Die proposal wu a sim-
ple measure of justice, and ought to be carried out, though
I might bo unconstitutional. The holders of household
property in the counties were very unfairly represented.
The house then divided—
. For the motiin
Assiut it 202
Majority against 63
Sir W. P. WOOD obtained leave to bring in a bill to ex-
tend the provisions of the Trustees Act of 1850.
COLONEL OUTRABLAN.D..THE BOMBAY GO-

VERNMENT.
Mr. ANSI'S'S!' moved for papers respecting the recall of
Colonel Outruns from Scrods, and was procewling to make
• speech On the 'abject. when ho was interrupted by •
count out at • quarter to 8 o'clock.