The Express.
London, England, 1852-04-20 00:00:00

rism,..2ftleil a esonlimi** GIN ihnimilllemit s 901431400KE etertlind his satifeetioss at
Otlldslidassip be bg heel Ace-hreldeb the natives of India were employed
inn OM el be the benniona of their own country, but suggested
yealle. MIA by my. awake 4( Ms that same animation should be given as to what steps,
' who Meld •be brought ever to tall NNW It if any, bad been taken to improve the condition of such
wee stated a o wasittee of that been,* lIIM, as were employed in the subordinate departments. Unless
lint a tbe pee* el Inlit laa essain the inquiry wire • *II and searching one, including all
igiall
ehesbeine .' If Os bin,' pegillei *hastens of the gehernment of India, it would out give
ti-cal was no ether—were to entrinn satislhetioa. , /
preeen, he asked the slght hon. bow sew Mr. HAWING:I was satisfied that the result of the
whammies of that inn weal he get a proposed Ineiry Weald be to show that the Court of Di-
Not • Made°, net a li b. , or Imam , remote had not neglensd the interests of the 160,00(1,000 of
usesp,
would erg" tb° sea kw "I" • PloPooo. Tao psephe aenraltted le their charge. Ila adverted to the re-
ks (Mr. Ansley) was Mean nabs wee se 1 One de** eitM per rent made in the sah tax, to show that
were preesuisais fee it—a eimenhiss had bee. Nilt at te they was set unssindfal el those interests, and declared
South Mita by the Ida Inentninne Ind it wee anght bh andidinse tbed. while die were treated with d
by ell pasties in the hem
.111e$ Ingsky wail be beat soweidentiss, there need be 11011 Ci des
for the stability of our
made on the spot In haws pesos aessweinisa bad been Indian emopirt
sent to Linke into the Isere lig **by. *MI ear North Mr. HUME saw no necessity for sending out a commis-
AmMom @oges( sad V =ad_ _
_le mad eau • ean- Mon to India, as ell the information required could he oh-
maim 11011101101110 mu. ...0 _ Or me ladma,
the
tamed here. He wee glad to find that it was not proposed
The, In lam& as would he Nam that In sail to interfere with the Court of Directors which ought to
Or OD onhodttee of 18411 wide had been ace as the counsel to the Board of Control. lie gave credit
attemalml flik ONG Inkelss to inareassid Inielles_,„ d to the directors for the improvements they were carrying
tellredes 11004.==e1red oot .bi.. 11.1118 .. • .... out, and which, according to Mr. Berries, had caused the
missies Mr by the leen pootenoest excess of expenditure over revenue, and only regretted they'
Why sheeld—Wei see be a ehniter emandriew ea the sub- bed been so long delayed.
list while Si. Alit be allaalklaan had " Isla& hewer Sir JAS. W. 11000 entirely agreed with his right hon.
**bon. imam* bad talked of peemedents. In
h.,1 friend, that it would be much better to postpone tho di,-
4"/.181 when a ellaalml of the elmalraltra *barter --- cession on this subject until the committee should hove
i been n question, there bed been a throe rood preliminary
made its inquiries, and until the house was in paesession of
inquiry. Bat it was a suakery to enter ea oath an inquiry the facts. Speaking for himself, and for the great company
by • committal of this or the ether house. A commission which he had the honour to represent, he could only say
of inquiry, ithhh weal go he whether *ere was • disco- that their solo and anxious desire was, that the fullest
lution of parlientent or net, wee the fittest means. He said end most ample information should be laid before
this on the assumption that the state of India wu correctly the house and the country. (Hear, hear.) As re-
stated by the right hon. gentleman the President of the
graded the result of any inquiry that could ho
Board of Control. The right hon. gentleman said that the mode, they had only one wish in common with every man
debt of India did not exceed three years of her revenue, in that house, namely, that the result, whatever it might
and compared it with our national debt But there was a
be, might tend to the welfare of India and the advancement
fallacy in drawing any such analogy. The revenue of India and prosperity of it. annual. inhabitants.
(Hear, hear.)
wu made up partly of the rent of the land and parts of
of
He did nut feel at all disposed to follow the hon. and learned
taxes, and not one farthing could be added to it. There
gentleman (Mr. Anstey), for he scarcely knew a single
had been 60 per ant. of the revenue taken from the produce topic to which he had not referred. He did not wish to
of the laud, and the remainder was derived from taxes on speak disrespectfully of the bon. and learned gentleman,
every article, from those of the utmost luxury and vice, down but he must say that he had listened to him in absolute
to the commonest and most indispensable necessary of life. amsument—(hear, hear)--and every gentleman at all con-
This revenue so compounded never exceeded 21 millions versant with Indian affairs had shared that feeling with
sterling nett, and this was derived from 160 millions of our him. Perhaps he should scarcely have noticed his
immediate subjects, besides 30 or 40 millions of tributaries.
s h at all had it not been for his concluding
On the other hand, there was a growing yearly expenditure observation. No member of that house could be jests-
which was to be provided for, not only out of the present fled in getting up and making a statement without
but the future . That was the condition of India he possessed the fullest information; but if that were so
which the right hon. gentleman said was so flourishing. with respect to general topics, what would the house think
The people of India did not think so, but said that they of statements like those which the hon. gentleman had
were in a condition of hopeless misery, and had been so, made with respect to the case of Colonel Outram, in which
mere or less, since they came under the direct rule of this almost the whole of the authorities both in India and at
country; and, wretched though the tributary states were, home had been, if not directly, at least indirectly, accused
yet their condition was so good as compered with that of
of the basest actions, and had imputed to them the basest
the inhabitants of our own territories that thousands were motives ? When the hon. gentleman asked the right lion.
emigrating from Masulipatam and other parts of the Madras gentleman (Mr. Harks) for the production of the papers
presidency into the territories of the Nizam, the King relating to Colonel Outram, he was told that the whole of I
of Oude, and others, where the British rule was less them had not then reached this country ; yet when he ,
dine. India was a country in which the people knew that they had not been in the possession of the India
lived principally on rite, and were liable to diseases HOUND he came forward with the accusations the house
whille weuld "ir be met by the use of salt, which wee had heard him make. The hon. gentleman had alluded to
tend, sad hew. Them were two methods of obtaining the circular which had been issued by
craved the Bombay govern.
salt—hem the earth sad from the water of the sea. By meat, and he (Sir James Hop the attest-
law the nanalssture of salt from the 'ea was forbidden, tian of the house to the facts. here:wore rumours—
ad by ma am of 11139 any one attempting to obtain salt by it did not matter whether they were well or ill founded--
erreporadon frost an water was liable to a fine varying bat there were rumours that certain indirect influences were
hen 60 to 600 rupees or imprisonment at the discretion of supposed to be at work in the presidency of Bombay that
the swgistrate from three to six montlut That amounted toss mum' produce certain results. Now, too house would ob.
°bah" of the manufacture of salt from sea- serve that, whether this was true of not, it would be ex-
alleir• 7fe 112111. we a monopoly of salt taken from the uodingly injurious for it to be believed that any persons or
MM. wheel own OM mum take nom the mouths of the officers could extort money from native subjects or princes
a pits at a Seed price, which was of course en' for the purpose of influencing the courts ; or, indeed,
Waled by the arm° of trade. This tax Wag unknown that money found its way to members of the go-
fade the Mahmonsia rifle, till the time of the emperor vernment at all. The Bombay government therefore sent
AM*, Mr legend a moderate tax on salt ; but in his the circular in question to every political servant under it.
dm it MIN be bought at about Id. for 82 lbs. for good No man would speak of Col. Outran and his distinguished
ink MI. Ueda mew the same quantity of the worst kind, services with greater pleasure than himself, for few mon
wet lei sum% met 6s. 6d., while good Cheshire salt could, had readered better services than he had done. He had
if not =eluded by the monopoly, be bought in the Cal- entered into the inquiry at Banda with all his heart and
retta market for is. a bushel. The consequence of this soul—the case of the wretched widow alluded to had been
system wee that the natives of India were compelled to imbed to the bottom—the infamous conduct to which she
e the use of salt, and the cholera had become the had been subjected had been expeeed by Col. Outram—
•e mat order of things in that country. The highest me- and he had received the approbation of the government for
Meal authorities had reported that that disease was not felt his conduct. With regard to the subsequent proceedings
'severely among the rich and well-fed, while it commit- the papers had not yet been received. Though charged
tad tearful ravages amongst the raw who lived with wishing to smother the inquiry, the government had
en the diet he had mentioned. It was re- directed it to be made ; and it was made in open court at
markable, that the first authentic account of the Bend". The people there attended-moose took notes;
*holm. was co-existent with the imposition of the tax on and from the information thus derived the hon. and
salt by Warren flutings, and it had sum continued to learned gentleman (Mr. Anstey) must have spoken, for he
prevail. The same arguments might be applied to other did not pretend to have had any direct communication
taxes..,.„._n_ whiah..2l4_,,._bsea,..eiallseeed„.e_
......_,__ts India by the „.elteet. with Col. Outram. No doubt he was influenced by
ntlins•••• ••• taswa es ," ww•o end am'', •"' on. honourable motives!, aid believed Col. Outram to be an
hen or samther, oesaprhsd sway Inset of *dungy and Reprieved man. Of this the house would be enabled to
aide. Eae do tools of tat anima paid an 'sato duty e when the papers were received and laid before them.
°Pal to what they cost Ia the Wagagg. Stamps, the "du" What he deprecated was the making of statements so inju-
sanneasfli sad._ll.• Ina____,____ .„,.., bad bee ea.,•„staaam.,l9ds..___.."2-, rious, not only to the government but to individuals, when
tr - ." Mt ".....".mml/2111. "......6 ""'• 'Pim"' e' the whole facts of the case were not before the house.
Cure sell MA the defining in the renews et lathe (Hear, hear.) The hon. end learned gentleman had also
was Islas Imo a lab" they had hem
eased referred to what took place in 1843, and had strangely
bat who node these wars ? They
_hail been by mixed up • report of the Advocate-General as to the mis-
t)" mallea7 wide Mr. CoofeanY haa NM was W Mat conduct of certain individuals at that time, in such a way
value, " "II "aft" were • Bawd If °wilful "I° the that many who heard hint must have thought it referred to
Beath of Cow** Yd that ash ei SINN bodies would the transactions in which Colonel Outram had been en-
act on the ether, seas to moven lb* being inNy.e.f mod, whereas that report related to individuals at Bombay
he
bosettioU,balfiul__,fi" ~._ni..._Tl__.•ll:_f_inirseg wawa_ who had driven • trade, and were still doing so—but which
Lae company Ma std 6". WM", UM. whack Ma f 5" he hoped would soon be stopped—of inducing the unfortu-
Bulled in a vast inereeme of territory, and a great increase nate natives who supposed themselves aggneved to pay
of patronage, of whisk now each director permed • share money to these designing individuals for obtaining redress
amounting to 15,0001. a year. Thn eight hen gentleman fro= the British govecusment. The gotesamput Of -130/abay
in stating that "0° wars had caused So Mid an addition were aware of this practice, and were most anxious to put
to the debt of India,
forgot that the acquisition a stop to it. The hon. and learned gentleman had de-
of territory and treasure in the wan an sonde, flounced the court of directors, but the subjects involved
Use Panjaah, Bo- had assisted to pay- for the" ware far too momentous to permit him (Sir J. Hogg) to in.
Novo 1" Potiey of ;b° British heawasteat " Ind" had dulge in any recrimination. When the necossary decuments
MOM. .11. of Penetad Wood= sad ••••••ot Wool' were laid before the house, should the•Beptieepeeve to be
dimmest—that wee to say for the last fifty se sixty lure— true, the Court of Directors would ham • bad ac-
financial eadedea la the affair of the country had been a count of their stewardship ; if the allegation' were proved
imam MAL eat thellih there was an apparent inert"' untrue, they would be injurious to *sae who had ventured
of rename, nen had undoubtedly been an annual deficit to make them. (Hser. hear.) The hen. and learned gen-
The question dm the Hawn of Connotes was—wu this tleman said he Mae PIM or etaidesse he official in-
policy of t to continue? The preamble of formation; and that was the only mass that could be
the la of
~,was a__Mdwateas ea the Pa se the,_vg; oared for his making the daminests he had done. He said
ture that further std emendinnuala in no native population in the British territories wee de,
would be impolitic, and that had the panel iheling ill ereseho while the returns en the table of that house,
this country- But he sealed to • recent ii"•••"" um" sawed for ly Mr. Hume in the Isar sasses, showed that the
by the present Cienner-Oeseral of India. lard Balheasie population in dm British enemies was nearly double what
raid, that, "la the ameba of • was mad semi P the silkyit was in the ethers. At leset, the hen. and learned gentle-
British fiesetwassal Mama& not to pt adds 01:fleat ma am should ben settledthin retinue, before stating that '
rightfulePPelasaatles d sequined taleasaY mama ger torettotitt was being depopulated. Ia the north-west ;
as nay fres time te time present thimselme." This was provinces, the sateen of the settlement had been most own ,
I YAM dameriresd to the wan". of the mat foui" pies ; the proprietary cultivation had been turned almost
ant era who had rrilhdela_ eardmisla_.__M__lndaer sad ins proprietors. After &tines the stets which had bee
VIM tee eled•=lol,loo_,.._araisa______--7..21wa5......._ taken in forming those settlements, the bee. beams& *led ,
of • WM* me same waemat7 mega sw ,w• that of the net rent only 62 paren t. went to tingnmensent, j
mummemenent Mae &Win and Meths BritiskenalAto abo Towdadaow the prey • ..etheibuie.e. Tun*
is fad* Tim dela Vellsalade Seadsmaa_ OIL Buns') Unmet niadoeathis pone* ire—ii'ersinearlip sermenful,
had IP** dMs Wham ttrawalP between the /town and it was undterable foe SO lam. The lend in the
mg the • Hie _aseefe) sliddsa___,_ _olma_ southern dllilit bad ben 'MIA en a Mailer principle.
paint nest con.
Thr.... WWl_ _ _ _
__.,._.. be in Behrens had been mien the duties of the Court of
the Maim of *see ellales_. _ ,_la ~.„___ Ida,
____weaLTi.lll.la...__,____ Dinelmes. Os thh Wien ha would merely observe that
fee the Or AMOOO• tom', =as "11 Mama all netters relating he war or peace, and treaties with the
ago le be fa* aleaded le Ms landeema la eaten powers, were preemely embed in the government.
lad* 1.0.......__a5ver be wdl pressed until "oWili Th. doestehes of the Nadel of Control were sent, not to
.......• ............ Maitettera ta.,m, toma. the Osiers of Directors, bat to the secret committee, can-
tabiles Ad eel* te edasse, Ia asst da of ladle, sad inn Mate Mamma end demnpahainsen of the direr,
la thaw purism the Inmadal sommgenant wee pelgabo tees; mad it wee the hay of the mese ammonium to trans-
the bout bait mod al Palma he ......." " nit these despatches imassoliately he India. For this the
ratite Inneste, sad me WSW I. adamalle iii If" government wu exchndvely rosensible. But that was
interests of the SOO ease vibe VIM tie legniegelkie only a wain pen of the aniaymdia of the aggro of
of all the wallth and of ladleaelnewer Vellsam Me! India; all tanadid, socilel, sad pegged natters ware ?tin-
ware the crate el CeserfeY• Them hen by the Osurt of Meant. .1131pagni et that land
wen 1111,1110agle arlives ; and these were an led satires la Noe to mem, sad moyingiand ag the gagman. which
the receipt eg_.eldleillusalif ileassatad__ _ _ __e==pda ewe hot matenteed Mme -ordeal ofa ennwilbe, and then
rupee' • =near W 005.... M. SW ... 10. .... underwent the aremisa of the whole sewn. Afterwards,
Tao* of ti. Ogargre 110 elf. la mg tart 41.1.11a1 the desperlehm went to the Beard d Clentrol, who
lino BM sod IMP Milo • "0"11 at Maar wade the either leeletei es- aillgeVei Om t he he latter
adeped aitlesnea seneses wally set him here the man- ono. agi drawn, bat -gag dog or miesebeieft,
toes efthe esiein ef the maths& Thus wee wens be gni go prodigal op *"Huai of Control was
the Led Dolma& bed anemeneed a neer span hi ps- sal ai ee to eat* mem lee the alterations.
sestieg amMeme bedhadNPleMase_l hsa V• (M•••marj • mord was kept ef all *see seeps is ea* we, and this
Oat
_f10i5w0ftw01..............1.1...1.........• was a reel and peastical penman mg** Imprudence by
in seas unit* solar/ silty bed legmeglies bed bosun*** the nom It warm any pradand nankin an undue
kentediseel74 easadas. _hi Me Pestala d.• =Vey pewee. Of the lotions marred he the sown ornatittes
ben. era igeillel Illetleloa hen se- the coo body a the dsgeopie knew segbaby. no g•-
=tr. to the esell do* Oates.) Old. OM** temp *the anon* had boutrehmedlte, swig wan*.
le this ewe, almaleed te Masai's* Islam. lad Mate Ilealematisel he histlelessh en. An intinhy had beat somas
Math the hada sad dismiss Pella* la 480••• d Inn 2.90 eswelatments, wikh were sll recorded; and at
itallek la his asadallsa Mamba hem emPladads_._____ these I,laUlall lama itTOD to sons of the eremite of '
off was sew la mrms settLd.taide7 sad Imam the mesemp—otemrdseat)-1,700 to sons of the nobility,
Me hquirlse slat he awe ti. USN= VIM mu. -,ma preemiseal men ; and of the woe a very
mad the amused asapal col* hqueley. The wee ghee, as t*y ought to be, to sons of
t was see ewe Wahl •• it amel="isailltep iiiiMMl of the Quesa's service, and the
den bad It ea the shilesesat ef the Lord Obfuf Sue. larded agogoraboa of all he the Kee of the clergy. mow;
II M. that dae_shal. of Me salmaadd ef eat leer. It wee tree *we were OWNS everywhere, and he
_t ".•.11., ID PM "SO* 111.„Illeivilat scald
In el we greeter abme than a man eanwashig
sLinsesi
Them MOO the ate was ma reedeed On a seat In the AM -India dirsollen sad votes
nosy *doh hod been paid. .Be would ammiss no by pro nn us loargoago. grad naiad nor
lint *mined! d the late de, theihodalids la Ind both in asses vibe gave the _ promise and those who
end Onimmi Outran, hilly peeved Os bee. Of asked it. (Rear, her.) Daring kis canvass he had never
straw tilakeit A issuiry, bat be belletrad la WS soul had such a made to him, except by one
sad maellffi_ate Marilee SPIN the VIZ iodividual, and he het his roma end deelinedhis
1.728%=.1. VMS wieddlame support. The attendees* et Mentes bad been alluded
11 hisent,.= . .44 d 1...... ./.1"=.... ile By law, them man he a wart saes a week ; for five
are the .. .... "V... maw be re. years the merle attendees' eat of the 24, bad exceeded
need In e willeadises who had asmilled the eviiimee 20—(bear. boar ....ani hire was not a day in the year
whelk had bus.Wl Via the bale e• Me hems t ne when there were not hen eight to 10 present. (Freer,
hems nelehdy ought set he be emsleseert with sue tree- bear.) do he the easieymat of waives in administrating
in* Is WOW* the hexes a_ t_..Mm media, thejudidal basins. et he wee prepared to Mate, that
and by aloft *Me ma lama aesamm me trawhir in the whole of India, hi 1849, there were dis of
of the preflor who wen oletedt. , MINT lommo•-,.. .._ 268,574 original suits, of which 268,161, or 99 percent,
TM he. sad Imam PlatMlaaa. amemea_, bisamaa. als were deposed of by native judicial officer', and only 2,423,
missedmillialls • that se allablia lteamill... Meeland_ or 1 per cent. by European judges. (Hear, hear.) In the
le ber.... _ the Wm* et the ..=. same year, the whole of the suits disposed of, including op-
ium of rein whin therm= mad - peals, was 840,918, of which 319,664, or 93 per cent., were
tiestilliligh 611 0r... )11.4..r .lain. of of by natives, and 21,364, or 6 and a fraction per
donde/as Is saw en will =hook delminim, and onit., by European judges. Of these tb„preale were 15
Ike urgent importeneeef ableiniss a into per cent., and the reversals only 4 per cent. It had been
She 411011".. Of ".." 40.01.1...
._._
_._tadtilit__ . = and said that it was desirable to have in the direction gentle-
wishm dthe 911....8 mane % Md..... DIPPS." Mas who had Indian estates. He contended that it was
MUM *Ohs tell nom ban postinent is eagle era he essiot hr the public, good that there should be among
Ma say mamma he eadatdallits add ream and sada' the alaee iMe a emPertiwo of gentlemen of talent and lista:
Atka' and praying her Mailig___.....,_thed MP" W_Dealle,___,_thu Visas* lasenmeted with India. Many of their most useful
neermary measures for ""'"""'"'"• " °.1•"7 mat tho wort of directors, who, from long experience,
into Hellish Isle, duly nod ampewened be sew had berme singulrnly ormisemat with Indian affairs, had
MIN lei proneute all regnidle hogoides in the posstiess, he.. ago elle sew am bei...as ego prime, Baring, sir
and to Mon the edam" Isestlar with their elleassa" Meth Ise* Y.r. lionainet, the late Mr. Astell, and many
tins thmeemin, to his MOM In prignment e of has present. colleagues. In the Imiriod from 1814 to 1836,
Mr. MULLIS *god ti. Inn Ind Ise** gentleman 26 mecitheiv, had occurred in the direction ; and of those, 10
would he added wink hualiebad the clashing wen) Clod up with seen unconnected with India. Since
hie statement. He Dlr. ) sealmaSed the mane 1834.90. vacancies ma 011111104. 1114 May a single director
who had petitioned maim' the pew* of nacoVnected with India bad been elected; he was as useful
Wien aline had me wiek that a spoil mum* oa should • me,mber as any they had, and a member of that house.
be seat out. With rearm to the weight of taxation, and (Kew, hear.) The court had no object in view—no wish
thoslnfils af_lotZlits is daahald_wleether _ thamwlio co-ak 'whatever, except that the wisdom of parliament might
Name ellen may mem by whit ni,4109.,11944.., of I arrive at that conclusion which would tend most to the wel-
"110. wald be Weed. We elmidiss er Oppreritee fAlra fare of India, and conduce most to the advancement and
thee mew adopted, prosperity of the people. (Hear.)