The Express.
London, England, 1852-04-23 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY

nes, and the to for knowledge et some Wad se ano-
ther. is se evidansd the nun of thatnalle:
be this *ad tis lint sap.
Ed* ha be eire datlia el sone
, isalhettea 1410 met be the atla Of the
law.' is so low a main of 004 but a lOW of
sad tliitfeu
ezteß well-wished Of his
nest ersll: that • ligzVat of Ma-
so
a pees so it Is possible to redber it.Haar,bear)
I hoe digit with the advertionesst,4 la paper, ad the
afanipper amp atioategairnanson nen am. team
=at the some tine. we , at tnythor, ad I
sit Saab be taboo tinttbsr, -Met, boa)
flay were redwood glee eagle iniesaiLl admit that the
-duty alinill-but
men sea wan* apnea= is a large sun
whoa least at ameisny to ask you to repast. The ne.
soialen ails ear the immediate repeal of the Bastariapar
item' sea no eivertienisa duty a; as I aid bane, I
Way sok yea Is Tema yne spina SWIM ppm duty neat
sat le Maned es poignant an= tingen. Mose,
bear.) I have great suspisioni. end I win give sty reams
Pm those saepisbas, that dwell rd the paper duty nett
=der the specious dioguise d Wen, reessep, as it was
sailed, for the purposes MI the _my wan really
only parts of a system enthailn At the pur-
pose of restraining Pterathee nod Weft down the
rinisallessr,trer.)
psore km=
eve es innttligaed Ingtwitkolaz
bag they Were all eansted la the same law. an I
mast theabing that as they tone late beim ct the
sane tine and by the seen est el pediment, that similar
mines sagated the pedinsont el then days as regarded
these isagals. .11e the avertmement duty,
whet is it oaly • year. (Hear, hear.) Is that
• lens nos aa be at? (Loud miss of " Hoar,
hear.") Let us remake what a lap saga revenue we
ban when we talk shwa rennin a day which I believe
strikes nor• this wean she is this esairy at the very
revenue whisk wee mined to be ingnated by its nap.
tics. (Har, ham) A was so siesetinnegls I •az pre.
riding that ne ingg sahat be whin% or Isi Ina Ise
wants in the wag et iete tramentions samotbsiog
Is. 6d. every time he speaks threnair inky shantssiety7
mom of which he can make
=anat.) It is be ble to enesZiffailimay be
to teem en ettpsissin. a mare
gaga tog then adnetionint duty. Ma, if I
tiontid to Sod cat a node he the re-
gime, I shed* and* lama we eh, sera.
aresieglisa bus. esemgonsisi sue.Od Irsom(rig
annusintieme Issas inaestison lam weft, lessen
alesongligo—is amt. lens In sonar ben which
wags mina. (Hear, hoar.) Denim to tie iaterest
If to reviass, I natant to soy that if you repeal this
ISLIMA a year you will sever know it ID nest year's in-
soles. Mart hem) Tan, if this be true, can anything
Wu ein .uel *ea to oz. b
that the r want
pone servant girl
? (Hear, bier.) Take
41." netaannaineefeaery
nen than that Seadhl impedse
the alhoille~g is ve serail go way
negesalle a
Thee Is asthies a
lo set gobbh same elm mass ass aft wag, if
meld ady be Una vegan. De set edde dm,
to wanneble dilletdins of Ink disk en thus-
' naves lairan=lie sot gliarin Wig d the people
adder vests luble•ld lea Ohm (Hear.)
Lek as the trailed States, win *dr tea nation of ed-
voalsomens easy year. Hew way rue in Dag-
and with • 'alb% end, If ngosesial
=rl? bre Ife 1 lad yea see thus de-
e eight inallsos of easethinaste by the duty.
(Noir, hear.) Am& who are those Manson who are shut
out by thin duty ? The ven poems' et tbe perdition. (Hear.)
The rich advertinr who takes his seism of the
The.. pays his is. a., aid the peer senausnaid,
who wants • eta
assinirdy taxed. Why, than is so
=in the the tax setting side the an-
of the poinsipie. Its leresitiry isairaleg4"tritt,
whiter I admen ie=et or
Mode* is to as" is what I no as}
pond to Aitglig der. I grant Wine tha the
waxy. erat, is armee the with the
ham. Imam aria al be the rases why rational
bane theuld pant analsinig a tax whleh is opposed
Id Miry must ouriumial pellepie. Then is sassadstag
sin ; gad that exissilear 14, to aduse god besp down
the gad se nipple iss leaendence.
(Hrter=rlCils node evident by the toner et your
law. Ten say to year eat of gasilemat that every time
a man niveraise is a sregapar be nest pay le. 6d.,
bet if be adleseeles ea • trall sir in es manias, or employs
en
of these suinageso the n to which an
boa. awl gannetnumber sowewha
llas siege sand the ease-
lien el the beam Missy s de se, sod lion is ae duty.
tut sat Ma ge te gni be is arallod 111 a
aty
ac ethenienones hen the
t. ford As supporting • aneptga, one if yen
esgie any ken ile selenneyn tete ihe snot direct
neon peedlie hr Waft sail lesssolas the inisgesenes
of the Why, ell then weisme is.,
plonala compomise are only se Inv presto
idea et the duty an the seems ol
. lan bone darn that a hes asteally
tamale*, papaws inns mak odvalling. Pet
year siesillatent day doss net WM then. h ady
whoa yea gp le the anihrtneete aownsesa the Initinete
abide fir Ws had of hantbdigis, wadi alga to have
the beanie of Dia ethathoonals, that the pia* is fn.
tweed. (Hear, hear.) I held the preopsens el Die sow
(any is my hand, sad ben this it that
the conpiny uadertakos amain end
everything, ad will shah the adeselleante this would
the newspapers, wen It an for the lag. And after
di what is an advertisement? The Board of Inland
Bennue doss sot know, it slags is the ma that even
'Mehl penensgetemanst adoesland or midst it. (Hear,
boa) Then kin incense the Daly Nam, a paper
,tat undigleek to give o list of sales attest le lake place,
pa legirt=f Oa aballsonest, nor charging aaything
Ht the
st=lllllte It merely with a view of mak.
sad to supply the pubis with a
metal giCired telhonaion. But ne Bend of lilad
Daman at ones pawed lowa ea the pospetenes and
melL " Tat shall Mann this Mot withal yea pay la
each moping gessupenenn" Ana, itwan that Its
le na adesdiesasat, 11110111 Wee•
171161:11.19=Sre.tree b tILly. Lipeedielidgeillde•er=

IG, APRIL 23, 1

plea eheald
tif
.1711.4-ittptri.h..with a desire by the strewn that lal
noes review easetissasaarimisetisPiars=
ea the *Maas of the side for le MA,
it t Os= pst free, Meuse that was
his in ash team its with
M has who did. The tax wee
aphis while asly u shies passed=si
he stamp were INIMOVOI
be sable Ow the sweepers ef there 33=11rda sopa
less abeam do a was sew paid. A asellped
mapper he else by pest wend obviate he et-
May laMatiee. mans to the 'Selma *et of the les,
be eatteshil a length that it in se way lambi that
2:rthe law asteally not pandas enalmt libel and
isissiktiiratimtisr, er whet sawyeselherwriting
tessling to hag Obristimity earl the ceashaisa late dis-
repute. Tide /19 endowed hem arta& pahlketleas eiser
staidly addeessi es the 1110111ing people Iry ILr. Ernest
Ames and others, to wash peisse that elan
meld prefer a wholesome newspaper, wen they el•
awed a heap one. It was mat sissirelie that tie
moon should be permitted Gush ree&lag. The mice
asempapre waa graduy ally lea the w-
aofllah= er scene all
_the dail Leade&n
Ism oof
et whisk ItseoW le ths iressme *
'nil& bad
tezker
rieee is the dandades ef tits Da Nem whin it
its prism Iree add he Bard of Rellalle dada
what was rammegrea, es bed been shows is Mr. Mahe
Dickens's Houesield Narveriss; wherein Mr. /Shah a
man of spirit ami property, had defeated the officials, but
hundreds of feebler peteme had been laminated for weak
of ability to &and lIIIOMOITOO Weft OINIOINOIS to be the
canyon of oar affesellmeas ? Yet, he meertal, government
was afraid to repeal in 1661 the crusade of la" against the
undamped press; and if the law were set le be ealsaied
why was it sat on the books ? The Repo TWegreph
was regularly published, announcing the Earl of Deeby's
victories on the turf and other matters of public in-
terest, but the board never attempted to tax this journal or
others containing information of a elm nature, obserra-
time on the proceedings in parliament, and general nem.
Apologising for the great length of his speech, Mr. Gibe.=
abstained from peroration, and concluded by moving the
Ent resolution.
Mr. E WART seconded the motion, ming that the press
was now the chief channel through which the people de-
rived their information, mad thatit was et the utmost im-
tance that such informaies dash be hoe* eaneyed.
Thinking that all the duties is psalm amid le removed,
he specially urged the espalier the advertisement duty.
The resolution nepe the paper duty having been
put by the SPEAR'S,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER see and
said . Sir, in any observations that I may make on
this motion, I can assure the right hon. gentle-
man that neither I nor any of my colleagues are at
all influenced by those sinister feelings which he has
ascribed to some public men. I will say, frankly, for my-
self and my coliseum, that we have no fear, no apprehen-
sion, respecting the influence of the prem. (Cheers.) In a
country like thus, in a country long used to the paean of pub-
lic liberty—in a country eminently religioas, I cannot admit
for a moment that the inferences drawn from circumstances
in other lends, velure—l will not say the aloyment—but
the apneas of ea satesisiseeil press has malted in ef-
fail high elli diminis leasesselse a moment admit that
sash lelowases fie be egad es a warning to us. (Chews.)
I nap mike WI ere Is a way much less laterallag,
=Mb ble phliseijilles tea adapted to charts the
home they tist will; heeleenlees pursued b the Apt lea.
genthese. It is *hho Ply from the pie et
view that leas ;Meta leimet to view this quislise. We
have beep se One peepeillees; ash of wadi ff
would noliae - Moose et this =1,61:11146
, weeld very ant
twitlikeeemes. The Mss now called as te way
thrift pee shies ; bat I will follow the esempie of the
r
tiles.
ea
ewe mg advert to the these peids so
ea selei— l'he it
boa psolisews
= alb epee us, it set femeMtely this Stu, te air sel
in *wise that the duty sapper 'might le be abolished et
=to expanse sue& set spleisa se yield awl the
It doss who sae supsesible ter the Amass of the
ea eseelm New; II sok the lest plese, that I de ate
with ler ea WSW le weed the eseeney et the view the
right be. geillemes les *ma with rapeet to the Whet
of theezehe es Oyes we. ibeassubreare of that mimic
kereyber,filize wows bet:, petioniseasready to vaginae
ilteeee • (Hews illorj
But :lease the elphe hveseeeMe grethowa MIAS
flar alleidlS 10 IN Wakes asenesmes a an
mho felt upon the ernmastaetese inns parasitise article,
lea beast to say Set I em cast aware that the evil
abets of en Excise duty is limited* the me article alone,
et that even if we compass the Jest of this regulation
era paper with the effect of a similar regulation on other
media, it would not be possible for me to adduce in-
seams in which the influence is far more pernicious.
I do not wish to enter into the diseneffen of that general
%station • but if 1 were to have rises wad, in the way of
amendmint, dilated as the of an Re-
im dupes web he example—
I dire sif allii have Rae eat a sass mei carried the
hew wan ewe albs, though it might set be so ably
weed se tie lees pet forward by
be hon. gen-
Sam will mod to paper. (Pleas Aar.) -We
awe; lasiever, mast leather in this assay these
lises erne nee =eta:: nut raider the 'bi-
lk WWI we lave the larbseisy of the errantry,
mei whim lied wpm if we any power, which is the
Motet hosseles in which we may we so as to effect any
mien es relief. lam not wishing to give any maim in
hear Ohs relief from the excise es soap : I mention
that histance only as an illustration is :whams te the plea
ger paper ; and I think the right km. will cal
that the injurious effect of the min ea the anniffee-
tare of soap is not ism des the
effect a the dut on mot ea the emu=
of that article. I em obliged te cm-
eider the imenties as aped. the ear ea pepw
in the atingal plat of now. I shad" be ashassly=
lis this Letease, a is may ember Loess% te edam fades-
' try or to alma the of the hems sees or the
wisest*" etthe tI have apeollm=ty—
I have to assider with regard to the
In the reams of thisessunizy, I can comeat M hie
hies. ato any iliae memation : and I camel ;X
I wend hal justified is tereaties 10 this partissier pep-
'idea of he right boa. mateems. It is sanely, indeed,
fair to metope sme et this neenst on this point. I hope
.

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wpm k Whit the sewed newspepor k barked vIM, believe to be Ms net Was of is grow et the emmtry.
awegnemetwo es (Lendeeke et "bges.")lllintbo risk bra gentimes eni
they
k Miffs Zap se La** is whioh you Ids NNW ow sirpemenign eli Me bob *kb I doll
bath widens Lai et gewomegande, which it amen to place behre Mees teriebentbmbeitelblened embeviews et
gio No jut midis to duty no Me upon WM tie duty her llejelp•t geminiewt, M wEI be pedal* men to them,
Is Meteltos sew," Wen is ebbb Slid if they aerie Memselme Welldsd, es- it Soy dispute We
anise ; owl maw In et wine k sell* w peaky we mommiesd—it will be plebe* OW in We ask
Ifemm"—(a ugh), in Wide Wee is • keg NM et boa. mademen to Mews hie viewo—ke annter.
deg fake le ewe eff poblinbegssi, Were eiim of dens it be amiss to NNW they, mil Mw any oz:Tr;
=wid. k attgail"
for
the
Pla= *eta,,
eau, his 8111 As
AX:lll.l4ltieuvmees(.l4l.2
M t/wilsedbillsyet Mess b reline melte would be to • dederatim en ibet of the
• nimetinntenteity. liner.)Ark, k die boon that lea ea MR_ Mogi
einnweeennenti m *pre Ikea is hear.) to to me
eemeenumseg eta lbe lake is w pima. For eight bas. pailisines, An Me dellee gpme okeeMemeate,
Mews is Weida*, ilea gemegneed to light at and tie stamp wpm gerenvegesa Ikw inelletim
111sulastam." lbeelow or Mesa alike genewee- saying that I Wait May to. Wsleele Wait donne sue
wenn Wow what I tine to my with rip* to Wee mt• very grove essidoregiso et •to nonuse et M. Walegeer.
nemommesnee io, ltdMgyen melt ism mirage to the But .gala I must ewers, Me pinwily with regimes
pub* ibis We *ship k end es to kik plane, end to the Abet et way gieemmended by the right boa.
MM Me knee am as mesh ad** le rim
badgers es wgentlemen Mai
gmenne Me away. That is the
Womb I have reed. Apia Ike* an Hew sew" sad only esmifteriliga eke sea indgegio me at M. pant
ite=st, drigicesse ; sod enedliff
to
ammowtinziei r=teseriLtisszlyedwilli re
yw t=sibodetet et Mine
is goneweid list* Ilabe en • meek swine than died=ws to wits elieuvelks. lb=
n pest wales et We ell lee Ida* k • verb& net* et Wee two item b net enalmildie. Taring
t. short Mee et lime by ser_tt at • vekinbenes the MIN twether, tbe emu* is impsdeni NW Wel
liallisi la We .) New Me we Me Inselins ettbe elk* et that defy elemliesionals b
wire Lege Ibaz=s..=--gmkt Wm Ws ea. one WWI sink to le rarely andimed. (10beern)
amid es fle a commordel tragere. Ide an erkb et lthemonmet Mwe wee lben that
atitelirlirst elk telleve pep f. ..t to kind* it k use wbiele kr gensibmil.
ids stn dieseiplisn irbieb le oft inler. (Mean) Ime net by Me bonds= Weems.
Wks limelnin deem eniebenlelkg only men pordos time et the rig* leek genlinnen peglindly meek-
bemoans, widloyeadomegyabiegtobwpintkownewee. fig, von we le eel Ili* the stomp at we
mane is Wpew* end weir gic jaws et We Medi king Moat tbe eatiebtleg obis of
-Teo Mgerell dime gessiamements Me* peke. NA* Min Wk. I Belt elan Itia ram
eniaseliggeot palikbeenee, and mkt: Tr Sae eheareeresedea ef eZgrea 11111141:
beci tbe deed OM* (gar, MO
I:y.lrbenftwil enwastherain:dlerst!evimeethe ettbeA then
meml *tilt end 6 its 12-Ilindislitatrverymell=limi elilas:gi
eslamity, We amegammenle were et modem, en *Wiwi are now eelled apes to give a deedsion.
*wee weld in sesehed. and Me vb. MA MAW en dyer. Thu event. Mr 10 lute ea
ameepped in Mee gweenomente_ps/le, dis Bead of wet* tint every we awn ireta Moe*, I may my,
BMW Wvones see Mr its le. M. It wee the tiny eement to Wet deb of the revenge. And I meal bug
sem hi tha of the haw, and k alleraboniptions to beam set to be serried away by M. lively deeniptiens
kr religiens *spew • great peportim goes of Me IVA boa. gentles= of tbe kieweniesee end Ist*
to the gemenimmt ; and it
and
we km siege allele of the wise duty en Mat emenbilme, sad
to the grill wielSiZa end sm. sett. Mikis Wet tide le We eels weep** Me sok in-
dell " Mel M. et Bevesnee erne- stance, in win* throe binds= 'Mete see esperimesd. If
era Ina maws Whew. (Haw. toe.) I hap.. Wen, we are to relieve the Wang et the .entry hem
Img awed to Mt bow he wmod et moles dudes, it balms ads
tall di*
this silsertisenest duty, white nipple ties and most Important and deep
poems Me MAW* et a met me et metal aide which duty is la Me lemon Mileutimebt
WWI between tbe eamplorw awl die mid But the potability ci Wig is Mk fir ley Mbar *twee
pentieled in, km • met nvemeive en tbe awn. de**. ea the date et your immeas and ao, se I amid be.
din kW and emu* fa whisk Ibis esnatry r en- fora Is the mane of a week I .hall feel it my duty to place
Mpg with Me 17alted Sleek (Me* boss.) I Whey dm be.. the exact stele of the Ineweit, lam sure
IWO bans the smart et lb* meld. hid We ifiewbsi far tie Wise wM lbel the great imeninhase, however hau-
lm*" wbo ow have no eh**. m aneseini maw the debate may be, et semis te s pranatme deal-
mad eta always expels* biwelf the bird et • ion m any belated opinion et Ws kW. (War, beer.)
klepeedent yew. Der* I may de* Ids em- I pup =kW hea. redissaset et the owls* et We Bosse
owl fig my melies. (Kagr, all.) A. • mews of 'sure d Consweie et bus yean with sewed to finance.
I doll bow the support et boa. gentionso sppein, win Every me knew that for a weidegable period
bzrrbows* • vele of ammo en • mem- there les been a determination en Me pert of the
tite iste preammant illy sew tresweike wish • House of Owners set to rake We :mane of lbe
aware* i a basal. Why, Me ewes that them mews- country by dr ism d now isdirest tam. It there
ppm haw eepened to be letwered to take new by been more tem swedes*
be wiling up tide oe Mgt pedaled .hew r ate. = and Wm enetber it ton been, *deg
yes devolve tea by test* et dm Wilkke mews el the bakes et Me grimily, Mat we amt So cement
men beset Ind lidnestibed seem And let to ea keratin et resr rennet by the wow We bare
notearVesle• tatMegegbest the wink wmpoper press, eyelemetlesiOy wade war on mew dank And now
dthe Mem may be SINN sigh* as to the newevepsr them ft atb:zeogreatatt=ion to melee dad* Yen well ;
Wpm I ewe met MN_ penes win we set der des replial rim
.00 be* seems et year indite*
et the advenkeneent duty g end It mew el** Wet they Wawa. I Melt, rd ..W radium ale epee with
Weld be ne, bows, to I,seeso es yea rodeos we sea me, Wien yea were preelpilately caning eft Me sem* ot
7as Ism wean Me m-ti adiowtssisgs wo set walks bow Weenie duties, Aid amide*
sees et the Met it weld be beponible he it be bine wee wised* More relief to Ms iniestry et tan waft Wilk not
Wesewswinte tims preseet„ it it would Wes hoeinte a be given if you *kw mailed or roped* year eneketbaties,
beak. But Wee weld be en overflow, end Men every ether your internal Saudis mike than pew estomel name.
newspaper weld have • sir Weeps et •• Wm. The But remember ibis, Mat ben. gentienes walk maw
Time "mid Wein ell it wis, esa i• tin n} in led/ Me right gentlemen TA* Meek* dlie WO%
ommotereirl pa* of view, the peer Meow or maw gentiewn We mend* it, never eenellseed ids
sera* vibe **Wed weld be teateelelly base- priociple, but, en Me endreey, always sapped* Se paw
Its*. Yoe mat rosins* that the advertiam which redoes& the enelenn balks. Welloarewi gnat
esr only • awe seedy meted adverbing than war is being wide mei* tbe navies duties. WI lbw
the , end that It is not wiled to the attacked suesseetelly we met mums of our imagist lege
serve* or , who maim the Weep* possible tin, and now we an **dna tbe mond seems of *li-
med* et maiwitommat. Thee, to be question reet taxation. Well, what b ewe power—what b our
the dean, duty, r. Gwen swifts' to it, position with respect to our liked lamilen t We bane a
original lm which we. laid on gosbe lit Jo* in committee sitting up stein whielt ie abeektely =Wing war

the matter ; and my mistake may be excused. The right
hoe. gentleman to aware that the information sgaiust the
Hessallahl Narrative was Sled by my predecessor in (Ace.
It wu insisted that it was a newspaper and liable to
the stamp act. The point wee discussed in the Court of
Exchequer, and it wu decided, there being 3 to
in favour of the exemption of the pubiication in question
from the Stamp Act. The Attorney-Genet:4 and the Soli-
eitor•Cloneral had the subject submitted to them for their
oonsideration, together with the Counsel of Stamps and
Taxer, now Mr. Justice Crompton; and they !greed that
the Judgment of Baron Parke wee, in their opinion, more
correct than the judgment of the majority of thy court.
When I came into office the question wits laid he. fore me
and the Balicitor-General, with the opinions of our

Olia.sr.)ll=iir.l sing he ofthemffeolidertl:etsza6a. .1i lil that
i I episfes
committee, It Tese, both fres the meowed opi-
nions of the gmatiemen (Kr. Hume) who
meted and serried 'eppeMblisat of that emnindttee, and
from every indlvidtial 0 themes* Mepertensit apes the com-
mittee that, wheteme nay be their eldeleas respecting
direct Mxatios, they disepgme of the mind* 'mon which
direct taxation is at poems% kneed in this couotry. They
tell you that they are hisparelle to direct taxation, but
that it must be direM Oman without exemption : it moat
be direst taxadon tree tea Ansi objections which they
allege against the pousent apnoea. Thus this is oar posi-
tion : we have reduced ass great branch of our indirect
taxation is the repeal Kenny messes duties ; we are now
attacking Mother source of our indirect taxation by motions
like the preemie; while the principles upon which
direct taitatent can be satisfactorily established are
SRI the eahemete of controversy, and are at this
moment under the discussion and investigation of
a pardinnentary committee. Now, I ask the house cab*
to eamider whether this is a atisfactory state for the
lamer of this country ? (Hear, hear.) Is it not whir,
then, to pause before you diminish your revenue from in-
direct taxation until the house and the country have arrived
tetithiatainier principles upon which direct taxation is to be
? (Hear, hear.) Can anything be more injurious
—can anything be more unwise and rash—than to diminish
the lours of your indirect taxation, when at the same time
you are challenging the principle upon which the main
source of lour direct taxation is now established 1 (Hear,
hear.) Now I put that view with great eciatidenee
to the consideration of the house. Them are not subjects to
trine with ; and I am sure that these questions will be
looked at as a whole. The right hon. gentleman has made
a pseesnal reference to me. He has spokeu of my having
supported • motion like the present, two years ago. If the
right hon. gentleman had done no the honour of looking
back to the observations I made on that occasion, I am sure
the house would do me the justice of admitting that I fully
vindicated the vote I gave. I do not at all wish
to refer to any personal considerations on an occasion like
the present, or to introduce them at all into debate ; but
es ay vote has been spoken of in so marked a manner, the
house will perhaps permit me to explain the circumstances
seder which I gave It. The house had been informed, from
the throne, that a great productive interest in this country
was suffering—an interest which I, among others, was scot
particularly to represent in this house; and we thought
that there might be a certain remission of taxation which
would have relieved the sufferings of that interest. But
the minister of that day, in possession of a surplus, said
that he would not apply any portion of that surplus
either to the relief of that interest, or, on the other hand,
to the diminution of the public debt, which, b the conse-
quent diminishes of the general taxation, would have been
• ammo Keening relief ; but that instead ho would apply
that surplus to means of which we did not approve, and in
• method which we thought unjust and impolitic. And,
themes", all I meant in the vote I gave for the
whoa of the right hon. gentleman, and in the
expremiesie I used, was this, that if there were to be
• emblem of thaws, wLich I considered was not on •
fide minedple—which neither relieved the particular in-
terest, referred to as entering from the throne, nor relieved
sensual interests by • diminution of the general taxation
et the country, through a reduction of the debt-1 pre-
ferred the poicy of the right hon. gentlemen to the pfihey
reeenmosded by the government. I should have It▪ preferred to have relieved the industry Kele
by a rookies of the duty on paper and by • sel=
he dudes ea advertisements and of the nowqmpee Mole
te the mmeares which were urged by he gevetemest.
(Hear, heat.) I cannot conceive that a position mem
air could have been taken by a member of this Mem I
and it Is one from the recollection of which I experience
as regret. (Hear, hear.) I cannot enter into the inter-
esting details which the right hon. gentleman has again
favoured us with this year as he did two years ago.
I an not ben to dispute his facts or to dial.
Imp his conclusions ; and I cannot permit my-
, self in the present state of affairs to enter into the
social consideration which the right hon. gentleman
has dwelt on, or to comment upon the political conduit:se
at which he has melee& I meettake a most unia
view, I admis-.• meet limited and narrow-minded *mel
shall be prepared to hear it called—one confined entirely
to the eseisim of the effect of the motion of the right
Ms. te gemras *pea the present state of our finances. The
dema bas brought forward a motion which,
r...d sat, would mime the revenue by • sum
sew appresehing to awl, 1,600,0001. (Mr. Gibson : "No.")
Of enue lam net giving the precise figures. Well, it is
• hat. QM all hessitensi are on the increase; and it is a
SUS •MAIMMEIHM finance may look forward to. I say,
tbeeeihre, 'that the right hon. gentleman has asked the
beme to meant to a whim at easy greet importance. In
aseetateremakstaittewwofaihetbie
Iftneassa":ll:pant enitbithelillal riak:llll....lisamibp.manoirkiiiitilerdngthet
hielee le lierethice the fish thensiel statanent told* I l
.Mew the bower et mbmitlieg to them, ma whit I hall
mink In the seem et a few days, within* thelieedra end
he leemtbeenee et the basso having enured to • vete
as the right boa. gentleman cane apse us to give.
Mem.) Ido net Meek that that is an matemonable pro-
(Hoar, hue.) I cannot think het the house will
Peadairiteelmenastimeas sanction the maim of the right
li=n • mail is with thee views—limiting my
eithismodon in the present instance merely
andsleistly to he ameba bearing—offering on this cocoa.
Bien so opinions es these wider questions to which, under
the circumstantial I. which the right hon. gentleman
spoke, he wee no doubt stified in calling the
attendees et the house —but desiring to place
bell= the lbw of Common" to-morrow week,
within' say emberreamient which I might experience
frame vote like the present, a clear and undisguised state:
noun of our financial position—that I feel it m duty to
airthe motion of the right hon. gentleman. (Chess)
WA&LEY said that the manner in whisk lbe
Climeelft, of the Exchequer had treated the motion teed
• oisilied him infinite satisfaction. The right ben.
gentleman lad made the right hon. member for
ter • Mod and reasonable proposal. He had asked hat
this BO MA should not be considered until after be
Oar. Diermli) had made his financial statement.
nder such circumstances he (Mr. Wakley) did
sot think that this debate could be prolonged
with advantage to any one. (Loud cries of " Hear,
Meal.") He trusted that his right hen. friend would at
MID agree to the proposal of the Chancellor of the El-
datum, and that the house would agree to the adjourn-
ment of the debate until that day fortnight. (Hear.)
Mr. COBDEN then rose ; but
TM SPEAKER said—Does the hon. member for Fins-
bury move theeejournment of the debate ?
Mr. WhiL—Yes,_ air. I move that the debate be
atite tomorrow fortnight. (Hear, hear.)
.striOADlN—Thin I will second that motion. That
will be the beet amuse to take. But Ido not ace that there
is any meets why we still should not enforce the points of
this question epee the attention of the house. I have been
helm if . sides apes • select committee of this home to
iamb, Into he state of education; and I have felt very
strongly then that there is an almost insuperable diM- CONSECRATION OF ET. MARY'S CHURCH, MCNSTERe
*thy in ear way, as respects the edusit• of the eQU AlM—Yesterday morning the Bishop of London eon-
=la these taxes on knowledge, Theo, tans are swatted the new church in Munster-square Regent's•park,
we to the real education of the people— which has been erected and endowed at the expense of the
Ask edusetieei by themselves, I was pro with Rev. Edward Stuart, the incumbent. The first stone of
eta het lliama this 'abject, f • ed ea. a the new church, which is dedicated to St. Mary Magdalene,
gesesma who has taken greet pains to proauee wee laid by Sir Edward H. Alderson, one of the barons of
make adeulated for the improvement of the working her Majesty's Exchequer, on the 10th of July, lftie. The
classes—l mem Mr. Jobe Cassel. This gentleman pub• style of architecture is the decorated English. The design
Soho 11111M1MTMINI weekly work at 2d., containing mouse for the church, which is as yet only carried out in part,
edairabile weed este. He produces the ropssior Edo. consists of a nave, chancel, and north and south aisles, to-
maw, • work to enable people to educate themselves. He gather with a lofty tower and eider. The tower and spire,
ma.
ththearWeedisey Man's
orkday .
and
diergi atpi Id. ;dthety 2amow" ti)7lTvrehellsitoe (wbehicturtu, filtr,7l.l: side
siw of 'gee:s has
ten
alone by him, for hummer m which thee: pareattLe been musehaudaby Mr. Stuart.
Tam: iifitet.rioranof.theoFthinuer:
are amounts to 4,1001. a year. Now for this house an PPe "of . "to bl
tr
eel .a whichll
the
to pretend to m anxiety is iteale the people while t prominence la Peen
.the c en ,in ,
It retains wadi bum as those aa theekaulahn ci the mane service will always be said, at the same time that
M obtaining knowledge, is just to pines is all before the there is no practical separation between the clergy
defined world in the peddles of unmet hypocrite, (Rear, end the congregation. Tho eastern end of the chee-
kier.) On the Wen tithe hasps, I cannot tel, or sanctuary, is ornamented with an elaborate
=lth the him. -hehanim. • Cheaseger a the arcade supported on grey marble columns. In this part of
mr, that somi bhe heel wroolderagoo the church and on the ceiling of the chancel some excellent
whether we are to give up a revenue. -I cahoot decoration has been introduced. The cut window is of
mak myself that the transfer of the stamp to considerable size, and is filled with very bold tracery of a
would affect the revenue very geol. Pevuliar design, having seven wings or lights beneath.
rr.:41:..., if you tempailsi
at!_j_nr e . This window is enriched with stained glass. In the centre
mob for postage Wheel it seat. the light is represented the Crucifixion, and in three on the
=IIP, dist would get wry mash hm thrargeq. ; north side St. Mary, St. John, and St. James, on the
M; It is esetela that yea hang h that way south St. Mary Magdalene, St. Peter, and St. Thomas. In
ma=
TM
revenvie,r.,
dump.. aismatardamegninp
hmlittge thpieet.dtrasceurynotledvaiggrioonusi. oLordredre,
eon(
otrhoenehdeainvethnley
achotsotfarchendce.-
6
. seeders eorthe farts. diction. The organ is a striking feature in the church.
Se sm. of tb. newompme, ara thbiatogy; e flicts which and is well placed on stone corbels in the south aisle. to-
MUMS eel shot mil us all, and that stamp is the wards the cut end. it is contrived so that the player mu
=obeembe to is h this Gauntry, (Hear, on the same level with the congregation, the instrument
That Swap dude eat the newspaper altogether from being placed above him, and with his face towards the
11111, mama of the peagle. Take the rural population, choir, with whom he can readily communicate. The
iMiM OMNI will admit est it would he et the greatest whole of the sittings throughout 'the church an, entirely
ff yes could the gems of the essarry free and unappropriated. The chancel is built trout the
glepin to hawed la ghe libsidass of tabour design of Mr. Carpenter, Carlton Chambers.
hi' ealployment, and te be eager he information on the MEXICAN COMPANY.—Yeoterday a special meeting
thethmetemloration, ill the EMIIIII of land in foreign of this company was held at the Office In Great Winchester-
emelftlells,,, alli lit the mierise. Zaire ono will admit that street, City, to consider of the state of the COrlpfl!ly 1
U . .Y" .
is villages
supplying much practically affairs; John Oliver Hanson, Esq., took the chair. The
lininki MUMMIIMIM Mlle villages and into the families correspondence between Id. Finochici and tho directors was
et
Mew^ II ha geed Abet would be produced read to the meeting. The Chairman said the whole of the
Aa =ho t to think of exertion"' and correspondence had been gone through, in ender that the
ta i re.
,tethe world beyond their position of the company might be seen, and the propriety
men district, and SO, be emigrate in many cases of the views entertained by the directors and proprietors as-
to places whom meld and the beet rewards for their umbled on March 11, "that it was quite hopeless for them
them In heir pea meld king about this you would to continue thin company," might be approved. The directors
tor
011110011111 MISS thin in any other manner you thought there was no other course left for them but to wind
eaddiervine dm rotes that now presenpon op the affairs of the company in the hest way pmible.
peer raga As I lipm sgriculturel mind, mare- The means at the disposal of M. Finoehio had been cre•
Wig all mall= INW to, is as much a' blank dually reduced from 4,200 dollars in January, IKil, t)
se It was in the dem et our Saxon forefathers. I must 847 dollen. Notwithstanding the withdrawal of Mr.
bear testimony to the het, that in the committee which sat Hampshire, there had been a gradual reduction in the
last seseion on this subject, I was greedy pleased with available resources of the company. The profit and lose
the conduct of the 'hon. member for Dublin (Mr. account for the year showed a balance of 1,3921. !M.161. In
Hamilton), who is now in the gervernment, and consequence of this state of things it was his duty to place
whose fair conduct towards this question rendered us before them a resolution for the winding ttP .'i
deeply indebted to him. (Hear hear.) If the hon. gen- the affair. of the company. The course prepowl
demen'eapirit is at all raid among his colleagues, I was that eight proprietors should M asf•Ori'lfra
think that we may really ope for something from the pre- with the directors for that purpose, whose Ara
seat government. (Hear, hear.) I expect to find tomer- would be to realise the meta for the best advantage
row week that the government will deal in a liberal spirit of the proprietors. The money at home was ROL Ss. I'm',
with the question ; and, speaking for myself, I may say and the only liability they know of was 261. les. 6d. for
that I will receive • measure on the subject from their unclaimed dividends. There was also due 36(6. far m
•
hands with as much cordiality as I would accept it from )'inochio's half-year's salary, and 1001. for his return
the hands of any other party. home. The assets abroad wore reckoned hy M. Flambe
The ATTORNEY GENERAL-1 wish to make one or quite sufficient for the liquidation of all lialiilities, and o
two remake in explanation army conduct, which has been surplus would probably remain if the stores were sold ac '-
spoken of by the right hon. gentleman, in reference to vantageously. The resolution for winding up the companY
Household Words. was agreed to unanimously. The Chairman mid another
Mr. GIBSON—The liostashold Narrative. meeting would be necessary to confirm this resolution.
The ATTORNEY GENERAL I beg pardon—the After a vote of thanks to the chairman, the meeting ad'
Household Narrative. My attention is freshly called to Panted.

dressier', mid we were called upon to deci•'.e as
to the ems' which ought to be putened. And
without entertaining any very strong opinion one way or
the other, we both of us felt that it was essential that the
law should not be left in the uncertain and tuersti,,f,,o,l,
state in which it was, and that it was very desirable that
we should obtain the judgment of the supeeior tribunal.
Under these circuusstances, we recommended that a writ
Si error should he i.sued, and that the judgment of the
Mut of error on the subject should be obtained. On re-
fection, I cannot feel that I have acted otherwi.than with
a due regard to the interest of the public in thus taking
age to have this most important ItueNtiou definitively set.
fed. I will add to this, in answer to the remaiies of the
right hon. gentleman as to other publications, and to his in-
quiry why I have not prosecuted them, that I nevi,. h. aPi
of the majority of them before, and that, as to all, I am
sure I never read one of them.

Mr. COWAN wished to auk the right hon. gentleman,
in the event of the adjournment being carried, whether the
objection formerly made to the discussions of questions of
finance, with a view to the repeal of taxes, after the state-
ment of the budget, would be repeated on tbi. invasion.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER—If the
hon. gentleman wishes me to tell him what 1 intend to do
on Friday next, I beg to say that I cannot du so. (Hear.)
Mr. M. tiIESON ad been informed, not having been in
the house at the time, that the right hon gentleman the
Chancellor of the Exchequer had stated that the advertise-
ment and stamp duties were under the consideration of the
government. (Hear, hear, and cries of "Yes.") Coder
these circumstances he freely consented to the adjourtinant
of the debate until Wednesday, the 12th of May mat.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEOL ER desired
that no misunderstanding. should exist, and should be very
much annoyed if any misconception had arisen from his
speech. He did not wish the right bon. gentleman (Mr. H.
Gibson) or any one of hie friends to understand that the
particular duties mentioned were under the consideration
of the government. (Hear, hear.) It had been the duty of
her Majesty's ministers to consider the taxation of tho
country in all Its branches ; but he did not think that the
inference was a just one—that to be drawn from that st de-
ment that the particular branches of taxation to which this
debate had reference were still under the consideratiun of
the government. No such impression was intended to be
conveyed. (Hear, hear.) The proposition fur the adjourn-
ment had not come from the ministerial side of the house.
No terms whatever had been made. (Hear, hear.) lie
had agreed to nothing—(hear, hear)—excepting that he
would to-morrow week make his financial statement.
(Hear, hear.)
Mr. HIJ ME thought it would not have been in accord-
ance with custom if the right hon. gentleman had given
any particular pledgee on the subject of taxation ; but he
(Mr. Hume) hoped and trusted that the government would
seriously consider this question. In the agricultural counties
the immorality and crime was greater than in the manufactu.
ring districts. The best and cheapest means of twisting their
education, would be by cheap and good newspapers. In a
moral, educational, financial, nay, and even in an agricul-
tural point of view, it was extremely desirous that the
government should con,ider tho question. The adjourn-
ment of the debate would give the government an oppor-
tunity to do so. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. MOFFAT understood that the right hon. member
for Manchester had accepted the amendment of the hon.
member for Finsbury. Ile (Mr. Moffat) regretted that
course had been adopted. The question ought to have
been pressed to a division, and the hands of the govern-
ment would moat probably have been strengthened. He
wished, however, to invite a clear expression of opinion
that the discussion of the question woe not to be tenni-
-bated by this adjournment of the debate. (Rear, hear.)
The adjournment was a bona fide one ? (Hear, hear.) la
the event of the tax, then, not being removed in the budget,
it would be open fur them to renew the discussion. (hear,
hear.)
Mr. FREWEN thought he hail been hardly dealt with.
He had withdrawn his motion with regard to the hop
duty on account of the government only just having taken
office. Ile thought hon. gentlemen opposite ought to pur-
sue the same coarse._

The delwte was then adjourned until Wednesday, the
12th of May.
Tho Linen Manufactures (Ireland) Bill was read a third
time and imaged.
The Loan Societies and Stock in Trade Bills passed
through committee, and
The house adjourned at a quarter past 8.

CARY COMMITTEES.

METROPOLIS WATER SUPPLY COMMlTTEE.—Yes-
terslay the committee passed the second enactment of the
Government Water Bill, as follows :—That from and alter
• certain date in 1854, every reservoir within a distance in
• straight line from St. Paul's Cathedral, not more than
five miles, in which water for the supply of the metropolis
or any part thereof is stored or kept by any water company,
shell be roofed in or otherwise covered over, provided
always that this provision shall not extend to any reservoir,
the water from which is subjected by the water company
to efficient filtration, after it is discharged from ouch reser-
voir, and before itis passed into the mains or pipes of the
company for diatribntion.
Bourn EASTERN, AND READING, GUILDFORD, AND
REIGATE RAlLWAYS.—Yesterday the committee passed the
preamble of this bill for the amalgamation or merging of the
Reading, Guildford, and Reigate Railway with the South
Eastern. It appeared that the share capital of the Reading
company is 800,0001, in 40:000 Shares of 201. each, all of
which shares are fully paid no, with power to burrow
266,0001. It is proposed that the South Eastern shall
create or issue for the purpose of the amalgamation pre-
ferential stock, or perpetual debentures, to represent the
Reading company's capital, the South Eastern to he em-
powered to use the borrowing powers of the Reading,
Guildford, and Reigate. Preferential stock in South
Eastern to be equal to 201. Reading shares.
EAST ANGLIAN RAlLWAY.—Yesterday the committee
palmed the preamble of this company's bill for new lines
and deviations at Runtingdon, St. Ives, Wisbeach, Lynn,
and East Dereham, with powers to use certain lines sad
works of Eastern Counties' and Norfolk Railways.
MANCHESTER AND SALFORD EDUCATION BlLL.—This
committee met yesterday with closed doors.