The Express.
London, England, 1862-01-14 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, TITESPAY EVENING, JANUARY 14, 1862.

TSB WINDHAM LUNACY COMMISSION.

(Clautinued
When the from proterday's Evros.)
watt mooed,
Pk G. Analogs, the feesman eat ea tom banded he •
gam whisk elated it was the weenimesw opinion cf the
jam that the interview with the alleged lunatic should
take plus fa the Amos of ceemeiL
The Master said • shoot-head writer would be pre-
sent ee • protection teen pieties, arid be (the Master
would take with him from each counsel the points
os which they wished to have Mr. Windham questioned.
Mr. Conway Menem, examieed by Mr. Milward —I re-
side in Westenineterbridge-road. lam the younger
brother of Mrs. Llewellyn. In October last I met my
rarer, sad ohs asked me what I was doing. I said,
witalles Mho eepiied, " I know of a capital thing for you.
Nun you ever heard of young Windham r and
I mid I hod • faint recollection of him. "Well,
tin me* lb. uomeal, is going to bring him in mad,
and yen would use forward on the general's side and
date thin it would he the making of you, and you would not
require • illestioa." I said, " How eon you ask me to state
such • thing. whoa you knew 1 know soaking of young Mr.
Windham or the general either ?" OM said, You know as
much as most people. What I smut you to say is this,
that you lived at Dakuskeel as =irk, waited on Mr. Wind-
ham, and tied ample opportunity of seeing Mr. Windham.*
I mid, " I would do so emit thin. /low can you ask
me to come spirt • young man and put him
in • seed.house when I know nothing about him r
Her wore then were, " You are very foolish. It is
the general and not young Windham that would have the
mossy. Do you think lam working for nothing?" I said
I would not for her or 20 generals go into • court to far
swear =pelf. She then said, " What if you do bring him
in insane; ft will not injure you. It will be the making of
yea If yea do sot do what I ask you, you nay take your
ova comes." I Left her. She did not Is the conversa-
tion state whet Mr. Windham's habits were. MI did not
know ens wry or the other whether I was or was not au
quelled with Mr. Windham, and was never fa her house
Dukustrest, and therefore was not at any time • oink to
Llewellyn.
Clerouneemionalli Mr. Ohominni—l leflPiellsobsouss I
whin& to pie amide the Air die of the water. I get nay
of
Maiszen tandiugright neumer. 1 have so situation, but
em the lihodasse hiss& I have not had •
slam mother's death. She wes in independent
olesenwehrose. Hdau that I lived with Or Wm. Tester,
and with &BMW merchant is Liroeutrest, City, as heed
desk. It hue what my seder wield, that I west to live
with bee at Pelham. I leave bees in the riles, sad our to
have • eommiUicet. I was neer on the stage. I pay a
shilling • sight for my lodgings. In HindouatreeLPimllw,
I paid & dd. a week. T sever asked the name of the lead-
lord. I have wood some money by copying writings for
my brother, who is clerk to • solidtar, Mr. Wilturs. I
west ci my own accord to Mr. Gregory. I have eines the
conversetion with my alter, Augusta, written to her =get
nova situation. I wee sever six months in the employ ci Mr.
Llewellyn. I wrote the latter handed in. It ie dated the
sth of December, 1861. (In the letter, which was mad, the
witness requested his sister to state to • rile segos=
that he had lived six maths in the boom with her, to en-
able him to get • beams an • conductor.) She did not make
that statement for roe,
itueurnieed by Mr. Kmelake—l went to Mr. Gregory In
consequence of the statement made by lbs. Llewellya with
respect to my sister aim, who is • good, virtuous young
woman. Dived with my later Wise as long en my emus
would supply her. I wee sot in Duke-street making a noise
on Christmas-day.
By Sir G. Armitage and other jurors—l was clerk to Sir
Wm. Tester, who wu mouser of • ire lemma aloe.
It we. about firaritiF.ap. The name of the gem&
merchant wee &se Hs hes gene abased. I had
15e. • week. I 13111. after my mother's death. My
sister is America sent me 31. by the list mail. I left Sir
William Foster because after an moths' gratuitous service
I asked for • stated Wary The yams of the secretary was
Mr.GrafPf9. My matber's ems= died with her. Tho
amounts I received for espying were in very sued amounts.
lon indebted to my eider, Augusta Lowell; for the
clothes I wear. I was is the court whoa my slaw swan in
the most positive abase= that the convened= I hoes
detailed sever task plain. Whet she swore was him, and
what I sow swear is tree, Os Obrielsowday I was mDebi-
t** from 11 e.m. to 8 p.a. I dined in • etedsokamo
I have a summons out spinet Llewellyn for an elm&
Mr. Samuel Becker Hi 1, =wised by Mr. larthis—
am of Meson. Hervey and Hudson's hank, at
Norwich. Mr. Windham kept an seemiat them. I
have men young Wiedbein come la with his father at
interim's for the last 14 or lb yews. In 1880 he borrowed
20/. of the bank. In Angled lest be opened an amour
The first mow paid bete kb credit is 908/. 14a. The next
is 1,0001. in Osteher. Thom were the only two came paid
ia, and he avow cheques spinet them. There is din •
smell Ukase to his aessunt. Os use musk* be come and

Weil fee 1001.7 which I gave him an his cheque, in the maw
win which he wanted it. Until the pewit prooadinp,
I bed no simpision that be was of unbound mind. There wee
so hc=maimok.
sa
by Mr. Chanibees—l have got 21 cheques,
the lest Dee. 14, for 51. The haws on Thursday lest we.
171.45. Frnsessersi Mlle we Tweeted and retiusa.
We bed rot the meas. The lapel' cheque is 3001.
an net all ailed up by Mr. Windham himself. ThorTbZ
one dated Oa 27 in favour of Mr. J. Roberts or order for
1301.; Oct. 23, there is soother in favour of Mrs. Whalers
for 3001. There is another on the saw day on ;ear paper
for 1671., likewise in favour of Mrs. Windham, and it is
Wooled J. P. Davis. There is ore likewise on plain paper
dried the Ist of November for 1001., in favour of self or
bower, and Waned Laurence end Fry. I had no pri-
vate earestatence with Mr. Windham, end never saw him
oat by sight la Norwich.
By a liarar—The 201. lent to Mr. Windham remained doe
Me thee* tweets were pad in. When Mr. Windham
wweed with on at the bank. I had no suspicion of his
la-amity.
Joseph Kemp, examined by Mr. Milaird-1 am pro-
of baths at theists of Wight and also of • how ed.
wash I let eat to ledgers. Mr. Windham lodged
then Aped, Ufa, aid weird for nearly three
I ear him every sky. I have a reading roam attached to
the baths ; Wareham aka at there per ea boar to-
gether. flosetleses I sat with Ida la the oven* in the
wattling room and talked with Idea on polities ad the
news et the pima Re reed to talk freely of his property
red a watering aro, there—Ctemer. Me sake- ol the
mat, and mid it was daimons. At Rydei, In Way, 1861,
be and to go out Ishiag, and remained a forai&t. He
west or the same way. He reed to bathe every tears*
in the baths la the low. His rooms weer perfectly
clean. He was pertieslarly Wm. Whoa he left be
mid he wee gang kfarder to eseetWee genera. He spoke of
his twate. sad spoke of =stag two farms Into one. He
wished to We a railway thrum& W property. He l ear-
%hay of a woad naiad. He sever did anything to make me
daubs it.
Oreseimernined by Mr. Chearbses—lt was in 1861 be
spoke of his property. He did not say anything of the fine
trees ma • fine old Louse upon the property. The mover.
Wier took place during the day. I p into the room to get
maw He was particularly eater. I never once New him
tipsy. There is • yacht club at Ryer He aver, to my
kerwkdge, dined at the club. I aver saw him in ma-
pay with angentlentau while he was at Hyde. He used
to have his clothe, nicely folded and placed upon a chair.
That I all being particularly clan.
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By the Muter—He had no valet with him. He could
at get dirty at Reds. Then is no dirt.
Mrs. Kemp, wife of the Met wittiest, confirmed her bus-
, band's evidence. Mr. Windhaues "cooduct was that of •
perfoitzers.tleetan. Ha did not do anything to asuoy the
other
Oress-examined by Mr. Chambers—He would sometimes
give orders for his dinner, and would speak of what was
going as at Hyde. I never noticed seythiag peculiar in his
voice or manners.
By the Master—Mr. Horroeks was with him on
the occasion of his first visit to Hyde. Mr. Iforrocks and
Mr. Windham were not on very friendly terms. Oa the
second occasion Mr. Peatfield was with him, and treated
Mr kindly.
- Jolly, examined by Mr. Milward—l am waiter at
the Betel Melvin, Rue de Hindi, Paris. I recol-
lect Mr. Windham. He arrived at that hotel, accompanied
by Mn. Windham, her sister. and two servants, at mid-
sight on the 30th of August. They remained shoot ten
days. They had a suite of rooms on the first floor. He
dined daily at the table d'htte He got up at half-past eight
,in the morning aod always bad a bath. There was nothing
twine in theirooaduet. There isa large table d'hOte. They
behaved themselves very well, except no one occasion when
the lady wished to go to the Mabile. The gentleman would
not consent. I think they slid not go. They went to the
; theatre and to the other places usually visited by
famffies. I one morning eaw some furniture moved in the
non, and I was told by the servant that he and his master
were trying their strength.
Crosaexamined by Mr. Chambers—The pine of furniture
that was moved was a commode. Ido not know if it wee
heavy piece of furniture. I was about two feet away from
Mr. mad Mn. Windham when they quarrelled about going
'to MAUL The company niey not have heard it. Mr.
Windham was very affectionate to Mrs. Wiotlham. I
should not say that Mrs. Windham was affectionate to
i him. They spent a good deal of mousy, but not more than
• they ought for what they got. She was very expensive, and
I heard bin remonstrate with her in regard to the dishes.
By a Juror—lt isgenerally the gentleman who wishes to go
to 'labile. Good peoploko there to see, and others for what
I cannot tell you. (Laughter.)
Yr. John Coonor examined by Mr. Mff ward—l am a
privets tutor and reside at Torquay, and know young ,
Windham. His cousin, young Seymour, was a pupil at my
hoses when Lady Sophia was m Torquay. The year 1867
was about the middle of the time I knew him, which was
on and off for three years. I have considerable experience
of lade I think him quite of a sound mind.
Cross-examined by Mr. Chambers—The last time I saw
him was in Palace-yard, last month. I heard of his dollop
at railways, but never knew him to act as •link be/. I art
him frequently in private parties at Tortmey. I did set
how coif his polling a gentleman's whisken. Inner hand
Ids hidlee. He was very food of laughing. H. Loren'
vary badly, but time was nothing oohs peeshor in be
• lamb. I bum on we aearion of its Irving untested Wee-
; tin at • *waft party. It via after supper. and ray isa-
maw WWI tint be MS the wane fee what be led ei
soin.~ I roar brad bia ary like a eat.
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