The Express.
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;noel 'fbr the adoption of deo eimuffillese-e mune whisk I up by ile eabeill,elm 1 awl I bed, apes ma-
welt cannot believe diet my pads* um. deism paring the lem la the eenaties
may be his political eir emamideal eginitse, can tor with that la the egdeeltarel aselislingri allege thsllite "Wet is
'leveret hesitate is eif= id essiefilealag. I have mesh MOM madimeble fa the letter. 1 take Emmy, Hid-
touched upon the canon TWA seer attends the Hem, sal Lemmeldle es fair exponents of the noin;
menigemeut of the flies see of salty. I have en- and Ullmildire. Norfolk, and lame of the Weer. Is the
&secured to bring the omomffine to ends a Mow that it dine Sot diarists the i mount of house tax ii 260,0001. •
may become habituated se males that obingerwst meth the annual of lacy surrendered is 290,0001,; while is the
jest with—permit use to say--meseshell mem of abeam three agricultural counties the actual produce of the house
Ira of pat epee than have the seMeemats of a tax is 18.0101.; the amount surrendered 77,000 L—four
novice minister of late yeses. tight Ins. predeameer. time as me Is was retained. (Hear, hear.) I will oily
age Ted
whose ch‘ldi,s I :woe's's* willb eiggseilsom ertemerreso mobs es eleteesation or two on the right hon. gestitesans
io hae place than, I well remeadmer, he wee nualled by a pawed. He sir" tithe income tax is renewed, he shall
theound &met* which in Menealvee may have been Jest, ha vi a ampus at 411110 ht. ; and with that amount of 'me-
ws 'owe, ellen viewed with esepeet to the remerees of plus it amid be ambess es attempt any reduction of taxa-
the isometry. I cannot but feel were unreasoaable wheu tioa, mere especially m I doubt whether that surplus will
they wore urged, and many of which, I regret, were tom. be realised to the MI extent. I think he has erred in
pled with—l will not say with renovation, but be a too taking the excise a little Me high ; and I fear he will be i
Weer* wreeseity.. Sir, her Majesty s ministers would not disappointed in hie eetimate of the provable expense of the
shrink Vora reviewing the whole system of our finances, Kaffir war. Front all that I eau learn, the probability Is
with se attempt, if possible, to induce the Howe of Com- that the 460,0001. will be expended before the curl of the
ewes to a Olin to sonic clear and decided opinion upon the year; the expenditure is still - ging on; sad
principles upuu which the public revenue should be 1 very much doubt whether 200.000'. will he
moed. 'they look with "treat apprehension at the sufficient to cover the probable further expense.
opoitues preseleut in this house, which liens imposed to all Making allowance for those tee probable errors, my can-
dle great warms of raieiug this revenue. They consider elusion is only the stronger uto the propriety of the course
reet 'allow may be more injurious than rashly and rapidly which the right hon. gentleman proposes—to make no
to ratio..• the amines of luilirect tasation, while you have alteration in the taxation fur the year, but to renew the
come to au general maielusion as to the principles upon income tax fur another year, and to proceed with the in-
s hieh dirt et taxation Amulet be levied. (Hear, heel) quirt'. I think the right hon. gentleman has judges' most
They ate of opinion that, if se continue in that Ino.l of wisely in taking that course • but I must express my regret
mina - .1,1144301 e as is the industry, vast es is the capital of that he has postponed so lung the resolution for renewing
than country, great tan are the advantages which it receives the income tax. As he km stated that inconvenience arose
from the political institutions that have secured it order, last year from the late period at which the assemment wan
wealth. sad liberty—it would be impuaeitile to maintain made, i should have recommended him to introduce the
the retinue of this country in that manner which public resolution for renewing the tax at as early • period as roe-
coda and the wants at our national otahliehments re- sible. I trust the house will agree with ins that the
quire. (Hear. hear ) Sir, we have a profound conviction greatest facilities should be given for pawing it int, a law
upen tin, head. We deem it our duty to impress upon the with the least partible delay—as no ramps can be taken for
folaillatt, And upon the country the danger of the course collecting the duties until the set is renewed. I gratefully
oa a leee they have entered, to inipners upon them the ab- acknowledge the male and manner in which the right
oeute nee. -...h'. now or in auother parliament, of hon. gentleman has spoken of last year's measures, the
arriving at some definite understanding upon the kind manner ho which he hoe expressed himself towards ma
prim mho on which the revenue of this country personally, and the testimony he ha, borne to the effect of our
ought to be mused. (Cheers.) They deem it their duty to recent policy. I take that es a strong augury that no change
di neunee, as meet perincious to all .line" of this country, will be attempted. (Cheers.) I entirely approve of the
the oseueitie reduction of issdireet mention, while at the course proposal for the year. Su fur as depends upon me
eni is'iime you levy your direst lanes from a very limited and those who have stied with me, every facility will be
a :OS. 01. Sr.) Sir, we should not have shrunk from ss- given to the right hon. gentleman for carrying, with the
al nelson: the leborious effort of ecipining the whole of our testa possible delay, his budget (or the year. (Ilea.)
hem. i a astern. animated by them views, sad actuated by Mr. HUM E said that if the tax, confessedly unjust in its
thew pi i'aipli e (flee, hear.) But I put it with mei- present operation, were to be retained, the proposition ought
&me te the tin se, elicitor it hes been possible for us to to have included its re-adjustment. However, it was cre-
tin...ease a they which demands labour so patient, re- ditable to the Chancellor of the Exchequer that he had
serval eo cePilate.e.k, and a time niueh more prolonged spoken the truth about the recent financial policy of the
than I one sure hes yet been at our command. (Hear.) country, and referred to the persecution which had hunted
The committee. lam sure, will recollect that it is—l believe Sir Itobert l'eel (to whose patriotism he subsequently bore
toolay ail.. two mouth.' since her Ilajesty'e ministers a warm tribute) for introducing the system which Mr.
aceedol, somewhat unexpeetedly, to office. at is indeed Disraeli, standing forward in his place, hail just declared
only six weeks since that member of the government who is to have worked so well. lie said that further reductions
pestilealy resainsible for the conduct of its finances, from ought to be made, instancing tea and soap es proper objects
the maseeity of meeting his constituent., could resume for remission. The paper duty and the malt tax ought also
his oat in this house. (Hear, hear.) And although to come otte Ile could consent to the income tax only as a
the inanicence of that house, of which no person temporary expedient to enable other odious taxes to be re-
vived be more sensible than myself, has anointed me moved.
in attempting to conduct the business of this house, still the Mr. NEM/DEC:UTE defended his own published views
bunnies of the house and of that department have, I can of the depressed fortunes of the country.
essure the committee, remitted it physically impossible for Mr. BARING s.id that he should support the govern-
re to embark at considerable length in the inquiry I have went, and insisted that it was the duty of a ministry never
indicated. (Hear, bear.) Bet, although the proposal on to endanger the future (or the sake of a present popularity.
the part of the government I am going to make is one of lie earnestly denied that while differing with the late Sir
a very uainteresting—to use a modern phrase, of a very pro- Robert Peel, he had for an instant doubted the purity of
vieioneleltareeter—l hope the house will not suppose that that statesman's motives,. Ile thought that the Chancellor
ae are shrinking from the fulfilment of our duty, or that, of the Exchequer was taking too bright a view of the cove.
it it please the parliament of this country to give us that menial prosperity, and said that 1851 ought to be coma
opportunity, sic shall then be coutent with again making dead a disastrous year, although the manufacturing into-
provisional proposition. upon this important subject to the rest might not have shared its detesters. Our financial
blow of Commons. ether, hear.? Sir, under rheat. Cif- prosperity. must be attributed to the imposition of the in.
fUnSSOUISC,. lam sure the house will anticipate that I shall come tax in 1842. He concluded with a glowing testimony
feel it me duty. on the first opportunity, to recommend for of admiration of the genius of the Chancellor of the Ex-
teea adoption a contiauance of thine duties on property che_ quer.
and income—(hear, hear) —for a limited period—(sheen, Mr. J. WILSON replied to the let speaker, contending
and great laughter from the opposition) --- white that the case of the general prosperity of the country was
have been the subject of our criticism here not affected by the exceptional instance brought forward by
and in the committee that iv now sitting on thou: Mr. Baring. And he said that the results of the disastrous
duties. Sir, it would have been more agreeable year in question were already is course of reparation.
for me to have relieved the industry of the country—to Mr. 0 LADSIONE disputed the accuracy of Mr. Being's
have forwarded that great cause of fair adjustment of taxa- representation that our prosperity arose from the income
ties which I believe the majority of this house are inclined, tax, nearly four millions of its prattle* having been applied
on both side., on right pnneiplee to make. (Hear, hear.) to make up deticieecies. We had taken off eleven millions
That is not in my power. My duty has only been to lay of taxation, and this had been actually made up (within a
before the Hosea of Commons the condition of the public trifle) by the increased demand. lie could not help sayiug
finances —to offer that advice which her Majesty'. govern. that the course Mr. Disraeli hail that night taken entitled
mut under the circumstances feel it their du. y to tender. him to public approbation, not only for the clear and able
Awl now, air, in placing this resolution in your hand, 1 statement he had made, but for the wise course he had
trust that the house will, on this and on a subsequent op- recommended. We were looking to a new parliament for a
permeate, give me every hake to eery the laws which full and final settlement of the commercial policy of the
will continue for the limited period of one year the property country, and when that settlement should have been made,
and income tax. (Cheers.) it would be tme to deal with our finances. In the mean.
The resolution having been put front the chair, time he trusted the house would rally round the Chancellor
Sir C. Wool) immediately rose, and after the confusion of the Exchequer and protect hint against any untimely de-
resulting front members couvereine and leaving the house mends for reduction of taxation.
had sutaided, spoke as follows,.—Sir, it has often, in the Mr. BAILLIE said that the increase in population had
course of the last five years, been my duty to follow the caused much of the lammed consumption to which Mr.
right hon. gentleman who has just sat down, when Gladstone had referred.
I have differed from hire most materially upon mat- Mr. WAKLEY commented upon the lofty tribute which
ten of tinauce and policy in general ; but upon Mr. Disraeli's speech that night bait offered to the wisdom
the present occasion, I have the much more pleasing task of Sir Robert Peel. But he was by no means satisfied with
of following him when I concur, not only in the course he the pokeywhich had been shadowed out.
proposes, bat in must of the observations he has submitted Mr. W. WILLIAMS complained that no taxes were to
in support of it. (Hear, hear.) I think it due to him, in be taken off, and recommended the Chancellor the Exch.•
the first instance, to iosure hint that no apology was nears- quer to add to hie anticipated surplus by the aim of ceche.
eery from him as to the meaner in which he made his quer-bills at a lower rate of interest.
statement, end the mode in which Fe submitted his first Sir J. TYRELL was thoroughly satisfied with this bud-
buds, tto the house ; for I think he has succeeded in con- get as • provisional one, but denied that its support by his
crying as clearly as possible, not only the financial state of party implied any conversion to the views of gentlemen
the country, but the views which he, on the part of the opposite.
government, was bound to express thereon. (Hear, hear.) Colonel SIBTHORP utterly denied the prosperity of the
I beg to arsine him, having watched the course he ham country, and protested against the co'stinuation of the in-
teem on termer occasions with no slight interest when come tax.
appeased to him, that it is with sincere pleasure I have Mr. REYNOLDS bad listened to Mr. Disraeli's free•
heard his mast successful explanation of the first budget he trade speech with itainlamil pleasure; but he strongly ob-
has had to introduce. (Cheers.) I will, is the Ant place, jetted to the proposed expenditure for the KaMr war, and
say that I cocoa to the views be hes amemesd as to the urged the claims tithe lAA distillers.
difficulties experienced by any perms plead to the Mr. BRIGHT desselbal the Chancellor of the Ex.
*able situstiou of Chancellor of the liiselltormr. I ha= chequer's speech as es admirable one, and was satisfied with
femme five years the object of that illegasides le ml the course he had taken upon the income tax. Bat he
plunder which the right hon. geatiemelhas tlei M; ami pointed out objections te the present admiaistration of the
I am lay no means sorry to me the felt et zasedng them system and recemmemied that the Income Tax Commis-
attacks transferred Into gum hinds (Itese, tear.) Aad sinew should be dieted by the lottal tax-payer,. He de-
I promise the right hes pallemea that I mai be se party deist that all me peat fiscal changes had arisen from the
to any attempt that male made le pey ea mid }Wader eyed of the hopes Duties Committee of 1840. The remit-
him. (Cheers.) The *he lemeloshie dm politicos at adeedule Dhe complained of as knotted
truly stated that it some MN easy to a tax apes the word gaciple, but he did not believe that the
wheel was perfectly ble; but when he says MoneMlor of Exchequer's estimate of loss in that
that we on this side of themease no geed TM= kr map* wan jugged, m the formers would not appeal often.
the reference we have sham he Abed seer baked taa- Alter wilco Most a kers 5.m thea was contemplated
sties, I dank that the 'videos he hes himelf WPM said he 51 th• *r Pverungsto he_ tamed that
ands the meet complete justifications( the mane we hem he duty mil mant, maw 11110001=1 we MA"
permed. (Cheers.) I certainly had awe dies to theism, ea The am is be spat ea die elteuld lave gone
with use outmost. ate the MUM et the }alley is tikelleift the Pimp and sharthmineat dense.dense.efrrel:et m
tea years. I disk it Peep to predase Nit JOHN PAKINOTON whited it borne in mind that
=Cheers.) I appeal to the hew geode;; the goat threw to the cessomption of sugar was by no
, who ha, spoken in the urea ad ma wed mien • wean be mixed oregretebties. It bed not
smart (end most grateful do I feel te bin he die bergeoge Ws Itzdholvel mad kg ill ass of 18.1tobett partly aro"
be has used) of the “111/911 1 pithead bet year. awl which bus tho hit lest bassist were bobs math &ti-
the late Revetment ithWesst Ho bee odhood the sent wad on the Haththest, da taw had thereby
ample testimony to the mem of that it, az
isempre.) =ito a peat ethos% inal asiddit gensequenee, had
The rigla her. gentleness boo staid bet No way YU the saheb of oesseey. So that
nine milliene of customs einkea ifilamatlnbelf sellasielf ems eiliwiel poeisorse IMPS ant besedtbd, while the in-
cense duties, half • milli= of same} dedier end these tenth of the itheirwwww wise preelliSi. Supporting his
100,0001. on the window aax, hem bees pipes ulse reamed. eageoesthe by Vaasa. be added Oat be was way to say
I have summed up those "gem; end the thdoelbs of thee tithe grows wipe was esthemod to the mantry to an
tuition is the last ten yeses apes the WINN DM, MOWS before IA& the mad ithbeethig *c-
anna, and taxes, amounts to me he a sum Has eausle wee Wag itagetved froth ewe own Nimbi&
(Cheer.) Now, what is the ishoodes is the rodeo of Hr. LibE regretted bet Mr Ida
those taxes ? 1,400.000!. (Hem. ham) The total name bed istiodesod. thellestally, a added begiwthert to
of the country ie 1e42, excluding the knows= mad ither he eiparately eirdiored, and bed seed kropege, w
extraordinary sources of renumme, wee 4$ minium; last matiag bus lath wed& bad to Pram Me. limes is the
year it was 46,600,0001. The leen le the reveals Weds of tie abaft that they siesta have lipsitheth pro-
ws. less than 1,100,0001. Asa a mimed= of tam- Weds'. The low_gdee of emir was Wolfs pewees' west
coo to the emend of 12,200,000 i. (Haar, hear.) is aimatati the 41111113 Of the davatreder, se it dialed him
I epees' to the ho'—ws the coaatry—telhe cwt bigoted the teethe width was the diet therletbs. He warmly
opponent of the policy that has bees peal, es se the ousgbeeelod Mr. Dimmed es his etbeee, sad added that
result of that policy—the result athhe dm bess NMlemes the bbale et that night we the deathblow sad the knell of
has put before us to-night. (HOW, beer.) I Inlet thebeded•
that with this unsuspicious 'edema, fairly, beethily, est *Par wee thesethethe *we Aldine= Thaspeas and
candidly given, the country will emu to • ONIIIIIIIOIIIIIII IS 119 RidM erg Wood
what the proper has bees, and win to, this MepactlL OZOSVlNnsgelasei that he bad mom lama a
aail future finest" of this matey to poem 6161111 ism sWII 00110011" thePiadibs .1 dm' le"
(Ch, res.) I have always mil that I thirep Amp et a lon Mrs no 'pa
t a th of die Obeaseder of the
ire
Est
v. nozient nad many adimatagee. Meer, bear.) iam afro owl bt rellsollilsi Si thinkMatthefuture
glad to see hon. gentians ,ems to this table with the re- *sty the Mem he to itztobiar the best mode of
aeonsihility of office upon them. (Hear, bear. There agpliptall thole Pfklarl• Rl° israddjarbaarantlY intl.
Lave been many attacks, many many meted his intention veseirteg Mum es o attoroey's
which I have bad to answer, as to the mimed cry of die eartilleate duty._
true from every clue in the estuary. We are told to- Mr. HODGSON said that the Modem weavers of Car-
night, upon the authority of the right hon. gentleman, with lisle did's* at least participate in the pawal }asperity of
the official means of informatics which he possesses, that, the ethatey, be they VIM receiving 'sly 4s. 11. to 6a. 6d.
taking the country together, it is in a state of great and in- per week. He hoped P boa. gentleman would take
creasing prosperity. (Cheers.) The incressing metes' is the their ems into Isisim= •
best proof of the truth of that assertion. We wants. farther Mr. 'WART UM that the taunter of direct taxa-
evidence of the benefits resulting from what has been dose Iles WM at last to bokirobed. The right
in the last ten years' than the statement which the right hes. psalms* bed see a free trader, but
hon. gentleman luis made this evening. (Cheers.) fie be had stated haft These Mau Would go to the country,
steed quite correctly what was done with regard to the and the wadi draw Anis ewe conclusions from
window tax, and the reasons on which I recommended the them. (Ilea; )
change. I stated at the time that I was entirely in favour Mr. SANDARE said that he would set iggthe the
of levying a tax upon houses, thinking that the mode of ineome tax for aseffiterr year, but he would tepee It se a
levying it by the number of windows was objectionable ; permanent tax, ankse Its present injustice were news&
but I never aalicipated that there would not be a loss front (Owen.)
the alteration. The right hon. gentleman has borne meet Mr. C. VILLIERS thought that the importance et
henourahle teetimony as to the assessment on incomes. that night's discussion was the opinions which bad
Time after time we have been told in this house that the been elicited from different members with regent to the limr-
felling ;off in the income tax we a proof of decreaming dens of the people, and the prosperity of the eountry. He
prosperity. (Hear, hear.) Whilst we were urging the remembered that he (Mr. Vallee) was laughed at, in 160,
Prosperous state of the trading end atanufactariog climess,, when be stated the cause of the deficiency in the re-
it was moil that the decrease in Schedule D toe moose to be owing to the commercial policy,
everything that was said, and established beyond the peed- which by keeping up high peaces in articles of con.
bility of doubt that our representation was a mere deludes ensaptloa prevented the people from buying them. He was
—that mere trade might be carried on, but that it happy to hear the Chancellor of the Exchequer, when he
was carried on at • loss. An honourable gentle- stated that the Gas policy was not to be considered without
man, wham I do not now see in his place, has the other, and then directed attention to the change which
eintilldsod -pomades year after year, to prove that followed onthe adoptios of that of free trade. Ile hoped
the trade of the country was carried on at a loss. But , the right hon. gentlemen had been rewarded for his manner
the right hon. gentleman has dispelled that delusion. of treating the googlies by the general weed of spirted'.
(Chen.) We knew that the meemment under Schedule Lion he had received. He believed, however, that govern-
la was no test whatever of the state of Lade for the ear- scent often suffered more from the strictures of their friends
rest year, being founded on an average of three pan ; than their opponents. After a very glowing state-
and that the falling off was accounted for in great measure sent, in whiten he described the prosperity of the
la the unfortunate circumstances of 1847 and 11445, to country, the Chancellor of the Exchequer concluded
which the rigle lion. gentleman has alluded, and that it by suing that such was the state of things that
• ea.l ean altogether vanish. I trust, with the means of he could do nothing. After that up rose the hon. gentleman
intennetem now in the right hon. genstlestan's power, the member for Huntingdon, who he (Mr. Villiers) was
that we Omit hear no more of this utterly exploded notion. glad did not occupy the place of the Chancellor of the Et-
(lieu, hear.) I will only refer to one other point in ton. chequer, and said that the last year was most disastrous.
uezion with the window tax, in confirmation of the state- (Hear, hear.) The people were contented, the rates low,
- , that the substitution and trade great—neverthele Se it was a disastrous year, be-
ll be to • great extent cause great profits had not been realised, and speculators
diaries more than in had not succeeded. It was thus that some gentlemen
es I directed • state- viewed the state of affairs ; they looked only to their own
, the bout tax in interests, and identified them with three of tho nation, and
of revenue given compared the state of the country only with the state of

is sill meat I made at the time, namely, that
r sod. Ma linise t.s. for a window tau would b
Mhos I:( IA fi, ially felt in the agricultural did
s~a!►
the large towns. Before leaving ones
wet to be prepared of the produce of
gillis each county, and the amount 0