The Express.
London, England, 1852-03-05 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY EVENING, MARCH 5, 1852.

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SOCIETY OF ENGINEERS.

WING OSP THE LONDON
TRADES.

A very. large of of members of tin dame
Ind"' wu•th--tharaeciW by the sanative amen of the
Working Rftlatitre Bersietv--eres held lest elan is
Mania's Half Leann's. Upends nen asesen per.
OM were peWsit, the liege ball nag most isesseenisedy
erewdeleven the seats set apart des the retorters were
in
landed working Ma. Ms. VANETTAST 1.41A.Ln
the .
.sea -the
ea anal la the en atd of henna se Is Ms
beer of meeting befog therein stated le be sight
o'clock, while the proceedings ..---toed at sena—we ere
unable to gin an accent, report Of WI earlier portion a
**Trent' .111% MAN opened the proceedings of Sho
meeting by • reference to a alveolar honed by the
master engineers, which he dodoes& to be decided]
contney to the spirit of ea .tie et pediment p
for the ramose a legalising M. combined's', sad
nwetiap of w
ad reas pawns et Snag the
rate of wages sad the Meme en whisk they enteM wen.
The entioyere requited Mem no wisdom a seine Meta
ratios that they would mask eameidsi the right
whist' sa set et pediment bed praateed to them. sad
whisk it might theentre he mimed k was right led=
In them le enmeine. Meer, boar) It was lawful
meeting peeeen spied snit as erjardshis tateribrease
with the rift* the potpie, wed he wash venture Is
soggiest that them amid arise snit that aseliag a en-
ds. to the kmideeme, to secure eine marking men the
sennered agonise of the Agin grand them by the
Ouninatios Ast (awes.)
Mr. JIWITITON neee te address the tneetheg, sad was re-
solved with the most dunning applause. He said that he
hod to make a stateamst en the part of the Amalgamated
_of their peered.; the executive council
Of WWI did vedessalls Abe 'bility of having
called the flefeedne. That ity was greeter than
at any of don tense issedeps. Per is calling together
the member admit own society, whose sentiments they
were well acquainted with, it was possible to judge before-
hand of the character of the meeting•, but on this occasion
they had invited the whole of the trades of London, all of
which were not perhaps prepared to go so far as the Amal-
gamated Society did, while some went even further.
(Chem.) He believed that the ohmmeter of that meeting
would add a dignity to previous meetings. The Amalga-
mated Society had been forced into the position it now
occupied. What the request was first made to the em-
ployers that they would discontinue overtime it was not
thought that it would have met with se great an opposition
—that the employers would have angered the long-existing
connection between them and their labourers to be
broken up upon it, or that it would have led
to the enunciation of such doctrines on the relttion of
labour and capital as had been issued in the circular of the
employers. (Hear, hear.) Keay years ago the abolition of
overtime and of piecework was considered necessary ; but,
in consequent* of a conference of 60 delegates, from all
pars of the country, who concurred in that view, the cue-
maim council of the meeting consulted its members on the
whales, whoa, by a majority of 4,000 over 20 systematic
maim end piecework was denounced es evils improper to
be eintised. The council then, merely administering the
veristra of the panda( generally, issued • circular, dated
Dumber 24--theugh to reality bend in November—in
whisk it was stated that the mea desired the abolition of
spasmatis overtime, nil of ppise week. That circular
hal been moth aimemlem. (Hear, bear.) It
hal heat stated that the of the society was not only
le Walk& that owl. dmel•Maidvs., but for all ether
Mian messlaue et the moiety, and that they wished
slli tste is the amgl yen the terms en which all workmen
awn be is that geese, the circular of the
embity was sentraed into a dietatokal one. Nothing of
the bind was intended. (Heir, hear.) It was meant to
slaty merely to the members of the Amalgamated Society,
ithrit less new led by the Quentin council. The
inseam lbw eosin upon the point as to whether
workmen had three? to state the terms for which their
labour sheath be . (Cheers.) If that were conceded,
it meet. he thetsght, be acknowledged that the workmen
wen die is their down isles ant to persevere in prae.
Wet width they esesideredi ft he win It was said that
they said is haw marmiled their emglryere because there
won two peens te sassy bargain. why they had been
emealtirm drip asinere for the last Ohms can. (Loud
sheers.) And he knew that every bad been
dismissed from employment for attempting le pas these
evils radrested. (Hear, hear.) The sirens sew de
dared that they wean ass be Arran to. When the
Leaks Was esseend, sew time ego, the employer
pre wry, massatiag es pay II per sett. for the Aar and
xi per sest kr every other ken of overtime. The work-
ism ins thought that they led straek a belly blow at
neetime. The system bail, hownen nes not
drop the work se be paled wee not
asassary, though ilsomarids of ass were eat et employ-
mist, end awseees stockinet set at work. (Cheers.)
The wiry had in taintee IMO to the conclusion to
the enismatie wmrmr sail pinework. What was
meant by ~doe weweasel that earprai for the repair of
mashierny esswary m gin the mat empieweet, but such
sew seam% m were lain by the ankle with the know-
ledge din they wan set be carried out without drawing
en the fadestry sail energy of the working mos to the
eaten ef twain or leartees bean a day. (Beer,
bier.) Then wen way thelnise is this .sues Me
the wen wise ef width had set bees Is, months,
incept hedger en weln—leses, which men
were wend in M how easseminly, sad may allowed
them is se eight hours' rest, after which they bed to work
nether SI bare--(beer, bear that he seethe at a
time. The neigh a the Bear, was a bene-
volent one. IM members, brawn bed theses that the
extra wages whisk they ousel by needles settnee work
might with greater advantage to thennenes be bestowed
in giving employment to these aoa wet ware out of wort
ratan et their grist on charity. Nelhim could be more
rut, she., that their demand for the ab.YtTon of system&
everthae. The employes., however, stated, that if
...psi,* to employ extra bend dry would be obliged to'
Weal their workshops sad M peWhime now enaohinsg.
Wes the outlay of • small sweat a swirl to be put
somparben with the general, smith end moral improve-
ment tithe working men t (Lend news) That was
the juilikades of the society see imolai the circular in
' sweelies. The rather then promoted te detail the CUM.
pens of that =snare, the essmilion of labour by the
workmen an the .being of the fineries by the employers,
thareadaddert the leader of the Won to fulfilling their
, piedgeas may Wearable with ass ef the latter. The
emplsvms~le east nein, hod stank, met the workmen.
The eatiness Wined M ward set any their own co-
, SW, their , and its application. but the wages,
the hands ef the men. That, however, the work-
men dallied *Ass. rs.) The masters had opened
webs whole isseirs of espied aid Wow in their pam-
pier : k wee an the workmen who had dew so. The
lad been senfal to avoid ens the Mara words.
.) They did out wish to Weeds= the discus.
MIS awns theeries. Bat, as Mr. Prides had said
is kis letter. the disunion of the capital and haw quistioa
wee a most despises we is sapiaL Lbws bad nothing
to lose bat emeiding te pia drama phdiemphie discussion
of its rights. (Lewd theses.) They wen set afraid of it,
and he wind Imes the Wiles of the eastropelis and of
ral* to *brink from its andisesties. In order
ad* be di maned, that asalisehed Mss called.
The meows had prevened the athethedra of nia.
shisery • dog prenelei eadi pesdissed it (Hear,
boar.) beg babied it to be ens of the greatest blessings
kbesradroperly applied. Their duty was to see that
k wee imia:ZadijOltiontin ja:4 did sot complain
et as is a saaaer most
bondisid no theasseinslWhe and the .testy mow asked
that the trades of this sentry sheath await them in apply-
lag It, so that it might be made were beneficiel to the
workmen. (Cheerealeb4iThe ungluing now con-
sider themselves as werimms, wiling to work if
it was in ask pewee he se. They wee hailasiag to
apply the merry sew la band is peemerthrg employment
without the itarrnaties of the means. The trades of
Hs sonny had Lap sem of mosey. The working-
claims had large lamina% ametatiag to many millions.
These of the trade nerds, sameasted to bell a million of
Create
le
ns be noway. Let the Ins mad pna4b s of the quee-
on
soon
thereeid athealles; and theys
ban some ionmill edlestall n wonld
ocia
te esities
weekeine. (Great chiming)) What the council wanted
M bow was, if such a plea were matured whether
the Weiss of England wend emir them in carrying
kan Their dews will be tend fy resolutions, and If
they banal that co speradoe wblipa were necessary
they wand vote kr these reselstiess. It was the opinion of
the imumell that they might, with the assistance of the
trades, than ama et army suMeieat to sontinue the
astassam lappet te their =ton est et employment,
tea soon.add be tehre kr providing them with per-
manent esespeelen thispeemisst of the menre. (Cheers.)
The ems wend sever einem to sign wait a document as
that pat hewn by the employers; it we contrary to the
sprit et Ilegthimen. It wee a nodes of deception and
impeedble le he earned ask eed he looked to the
r"...n.vappert the working melt Is • struggle against a
Salo) larak was equally hostile es them. (Hear, hoer.) For
dir WNW the society have supperesd the whole of the
mla estmealed with the miens breathes of the iron trade
who hall beet throws set mf msplwsoat. Members
of the uskey have he.. la it receipt of lie.
and naln•ollailana af 11R per week. The men were
Wined with that amount, believing it to be a fair Ma-
me if limped. H. psi this saiseseat would be satin
flarren to ail who hadhalalssNsd, Jed that it would induce
them to resew their sebesolpeiser to a larger amount.
Meer, hear.) It was set Mews hew kw this cotter wee
to lent Whoa the own ..sensed, the tear of the
esengensuatedi M IMAM; they were mew redseed to
16,000 f. Of MAX Mr. Newtoa essidade* his address by
a flatialldnit Obis appeal to the tines societies for • large
msaesw Oftten4azilappart, to assist the society in put-
deg dews capital over labour. (Loud
diserink whisk WWI is same manatee.)
On die notion of Mr. G. W. PKIDEAuX, cabinet maker,
Mtlandild by Mr. J. Perna, painter, the following resolu-
tion, "That, having heard the statements which have been I
mule on b-'half of the Amalgamated Society, thie meeting'
May uprises. its concurrence with their entire proceed.
leis sod pledges itself to support the society in ha resist.
OM. M the violent measure, of the employers of operative
eutrawas curled unanimously.
st;cond resolution was moved by Mr. T. C. OtLe.
RansilAW, hatter, and seconded by Mr. EDWAIIU Mule
uaN, tailor—" That this meeting, believing that the lode- i
pendent* of the operatives of this country is threatened by
the proceedings of the employers of operative 'minters, I
pledges itself to take such measures for the effectual organ'. I
intim of the trade', as will ensure sufficient funds to car I

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dam the prem. widem eel mobil@ the seehmes to our
Nish themsehee pememmelly emedethe seelehops"
Alter sided leetemplise by it penes. she mhos& to
elm War., tabbies to speak
The essesd smielles wee pat sad serried mid lead
atars.ptesseei by Mr. Baum, sips maker, sad @seceded
by Kr. Lem, pdffiler, '• that a esahream a the metropo-
lises trades be 111111110111111 OS elegy as possible, to carry oat
the 2rwholigt thismeseks. eel that a committee sompriahm
the workmen be appointed to take the necessary
pop hit sesseeleg the lame: )&.,us. T. 011ermishaw,
Mabee t Join Est*, painter ; Edward Morgan, tailor;
B. Whielem milest mike: ; G. W. Prideaos, cabinet
Waft I ROM, UO..j Jaws, tobacoo trade ; Gregg, tailor ;
Kerairy, dam; , block maker; Stevenson. boot
maker; Dodd*, ghee maker; Harvey, moulder; Wyatt,
wheelwright."
This resolutioa VMS Mee canted unanimously, and after
• vete el drubs se Mr. V. Neale, duly acknowledged by
him, the vas someddism quietly dispersed at eleven o'clock.