The Express.
London, England, 1862-12-22 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, MONDAY • 04141h46t, DECEMBER

10 o'clock. Having the papers before me, 1 said, "I have
one or two questions to pet to you, Mr. Hudson, about the
Ridgemont estate." He said, • ' Are you not going to
continue your examination of the previous mewing
and complete it! because I wish to mike an ex-
planation with referent's to as answer of the prem.
ceding evening," and BMA be would think me to
hand him over the letters I did se, by passing
them in a proper manner, and the master taremeirer quietly
handed them to him. He bad asked for them io a civil
manner. When he got bold of them be folded them up,
put them in his pocket, !maimed up hi. coat, folded his sums,
and in au insolent manlier sold we should not have them,
and that we were a set of blackguards ever to have got
them. He certainly applied it to me. He wee in an ex-
cited state. He abused and defied the bench. He said he
thought he was in the society of gentlemen, bat that he
had been treated by them as a blackguard, and at that
moment I don't recollect anything more wee said, for a
scene commenced. He was very violent—shaking his tisk
and so 00. When is that attitude the master treasurer I
said, " Mr. Hudson, be seated." He replied, " I act with '
advice (or sdviaedly). I have got the papers, and I intend
to keep them." I then said to biro, "I handed you those
letters expecting you to return them. I have treated you
as a gentleman, and I ask you for them back." One or two
other benchers, with Mr. Bovill red Mr. Bagshawe, civilly
remonstrated with him, and asked him to return the letters
in civil language. The under-treasurer, on approaching Mr.
Hudson, wee told by the latter, "If you lay a finger on me,
T will knock you down." The master tremors', I think.
then said, "We must have those papers, and you catitt
be permitted to leave the chamber without returning
them." Mr. Hudson said be would not, and that
he would keep them in spite of everybody. I don't
recollect him 'laying to the under-treasurer, " You
are an old man ; don't interfere with me.
The under-treasurer then went out and brought
in the porter. I think the treasurer desired him to do so.
I did not me Mr. Bovill put his back to the door. I don't
think any of the heathen had moved from their teats at
this time, except Sir W. Alexander and Mr. Reynolds, who
backed &little when the plaintiff got up in such an excited
state. The porter came in, and be was told by some one, I
can't say who, to take some papers from Mr. linchion. The
under porter was also in the room, and they endeavoured
to get the letters from the plaintiff. He was oath, ground,
with his back towards the chair. The porters made an at-
tempt, but were unable to get the letters from him. Some
of the benchers were then moving about, and there was a
certain amount of confusion in the room. Not one of the
honcho?, took any part in getting the book of letters from
him. One or two of them said, " Make him give it up," or
"Get that book from him." I did not see him raised from
the ground and held up in the air. He might have been
mimed from the ground to the chair. When he got up he
was let alone. Soon after that two policemen came in, and
then Bye and Warren, the under porter, were endeavouring
again to get the letters from him. The honcho's were then
rather more clustered mooed tae master treasurer's chair.
In the second attempt I saw no beneher lay hands
on the plaintiff. I don't believe it wee done.
Mr. Baphawe took no pert in the emelt, either
with his fist clenched or unclenched. Plaintiff
was not taken off the ground by half a dome
people. I did not see Mr. Dakyns put hands on the
plaintiff. I got up from my seat, but I did not move from
it the whole time. Mr. Green and Mr. Baphaws were
sitting by the side of me. I was talking to Mr. Begshawe
the principal part of the time. I taw Mr. Bovill on both
sides of the table at different times. He took so pert in the
assault. I think Sir F. Slade had been sitting near Mr.
Hodson. He went up to him within a yard, but took no
part in the assault. He said " You shall given') the papers.
Hudson said, " And pray who are you, sir II" He replied,
"I am Sir Frederick Blade." Plaintiff maid, "Oh, I am a
neighbour of your sister, and I have no desire to make your
acquaintance. Yen call yourself one of the celebrities of
the law, but you are a fool." (laughter.) It was mid in
a most offensive manner. The le:ten were not taken from
the plaintiff, in consequence of the interference of the police.
There was no third attempt made, and I was astonished to
hear the plaintiff say there was. Directly the polies came
in there was a certain amount of Quiet. I did not see Sir
Frederick Slade take bold of him by the collar, or hear him
say, "D— it, I will have it." I think some one said it.
I cannot, " or any other man "—(laughter)—pledge myself
to the conversation.
The Lord Chief Justice asked what the laughter was &bent.
Mr. Chambers said he understood that there was song

"Any other Man." (Laughter.)
The Lora Chief Justice (laughing) said he had not the
least notion of it, and was at a loss to conceive what caused
the outburst of laughter.
Mr. Rodwell then said that Mr. Bagshawe moved that the
plaintiff should be given into custody, but nobody seconded
it. The plaintiff was removed in custody, but I don't know
how it happened. Plaintiff asked if they gave him in
charge, and addressed himself once to Mr. Bovill by name.
I can't recollect any precise order being given to take him in
charge. After plaintiff was gone 90029 one said," Who is
going to the police-station?" Mr. Begshawe said, "I will,"
and lett the room with Mr. Dalryna. I followed, and over-
took Mr. Baphr we in Temple-lane, and walked with him to
thmirtioe-station in Fleet-street. Mr. Hudson asked Mr.
i we if be charged him with stealing. lie replied, " I
charge you with having taken improperly the book belonging
to the bench." Hudson repeated his question, and Mr.
Bffigahawe stated to the official where the book had been
taken from, that it was in the plaintiff's poessoision, and
that he wanted to regain its possession. Yr. Bageluiwe
mid "taking" and "stealing" arethessme. Mr. Hudson said
" No, give me in charge for stealing." Mr. Bagshaw still said "
charge you with taklog," and did not move from it. I don't
recollect Mr. Hudson's illustration of the difference be-
tween taking end stealing. Mr. &tympani once or twice
entreated Mr. Hudson to give up the book. Mr. Digby
Seymour said it was cruel in him not to do so.
The further bearing of the case was adjourned to half-
past ten o'clock on Monday.