The Express.
London, England, 1855-08-04 00:00:00

to wavy est kin poliey. • little time sge I alleded to the
right boa. redeem& is a Oahe maser, whisk, I am
three who have Egli the promeative I have readied
will seism The sent day he same dews, gad an
adjourned debate, ia whisk he had already
4111 a Friday night ea the modes he
ease% whsa you, alt, were sot la the Malt, or I ale
ease yes would me have permileed it, he read lemmata itiaka
• speech ha had lersterly made at Leeds, gad drillosi
that his matimeste then meetly agreed milk her pineal
madset. I add set ham the debt hem
ad se little imilsed wee I le Wog • peillW Mearsee of
this hied fermi that I wesii set have demo smolt the
kedge of relsering to the sagest, but thee the right has.
polkaed did net give Me a "Mae, of peados it by. It
aims nee that the old eiginde
_with which the gods were
said ee abet Ines poetess tle Mete damnation, has assailed
the eight ham
slew'mama INW snuff what was Ito
de: wee Ito o the ABM beset ibis freedmen to
game garbled eatraele. I.lhsmgM thediglet gislismee
wee too rigid • logielen
hea swele heft of
• eepliserise. To make eat hie eseed lasi MOM. m
his Leeds *web. What I wieldesk is that the rlßleKu keel
demon should be cempelled to rod the whole
Laughter.) Be reed same retreats Se skew his am=
ads wee esesistent with his prem. eisdnet. la 1840
we were es the Wish ea way with Frame is amenat of
Tahiti; we were la alms alliance with Beeds; sad the
noble laid new at the head of her Majesty's pesesseent
was the sonatry late • wee. On that swiss
the rights hem. Beadspartyman went dews to Leeds, sad
rahis ewe , the old whige, d=
. —obi In the streets of Leeds, sad
ear .1111 Nem& la his speech he took sits la mad
bliolilbsat scafosaded with those wle„ipeelt....et...Bel
say dews el US& taking possession of
Ho there latel dews a hypoiketiml ease in lenuuuma laimu"db,
said his sposek, sad it was to that cam be
awe* he bits aims gamed as his owa. Itemee a mem
zed • litypetheile which he had taken care to re-
bores by stades that mato parties jactihatl
ere by the fears of the esesegsenees that world issue
IsewsMek rmeades Well," said
dslit geolmaa, that the calamity
IN& me orpebsalks. easmA that Buda bee taken
susidea orOsedisaimie., sad that (lends's, every law
• lemma Magma GM has forbidden all intereoune with
• imisbat may port la the Black Bee, sad when she has
eimmillaand bee power she has commenced the mode
Barepaaa eivilisetioa--sePpom all this, and my-
*, y aboard that can be taken for greeted, as
Vie seseequenco ol Kumla taglag pommel= ol
Ossemedimple." The right ha. gentleman thee west
ea. hi mule subsequent soma was grounded co
ale All them nominees, however, of the
✓am el Russia, which the right hon. patinae§
are so utterly absurd, are bites by Lord
as fasts which justified the war. I could
Set dell to haw the sentiments of the right hon. gm-
ileums ea this heed, fee 1 remember bat in 1840, whilst he
was is Reds, I was agitating and holding meetings in Man
skeeter See prosisely the sum objects. 1 will venture to say
that the asstimests of the right bon. gentleman precisely
agreed with them which I have held until within the Ist
eighties months—that is to say, for twelve mouths after he
Uses* a ablest miaister. lam persuaded he cannot deny
that he thee entertained precisely the same opinion
as he did fifteen 'ears ago. I don't defruvai:ty
man the right to change his opinion. y,
who discovered the circulation of the blood, said be
never found say man over 40 an honest coitus to his
conviction • but I will give the right boa. gentleman till 60.
All I stipulate for is, that when the right hon. gentleman is
to deal with a question like this, about to denounce sea for
' bolding opinions which 18 months ego were his own, be will
at least ceadeseend to aanounce on what ground the change
has takes place, and that the tint intimation his friends
should receive of the change should not he their being due
!minced as nefarious, unpatriotic, and discreditable. I will
not follow this disagreeable topic any further. I have dim to
the right bon. gentleman as I would be done by. never I am
found holding one language to my friends in private, and
then denouncing them for holding those very opinions. I
shallanpect, not that they will come to remonstrate with me
in private (for in such a cue all friendship must be at an
end), but that they will publicl), in this Bouts of Com-
mons, the most public place in Europe, denounce me as one,
in • political sense, utterly us faithful and utterly unworthy
the confidence of my political party. (Chun )

Sir W. MOLESWORTH—As I am suddenly called on
at this late hour to answer this mast nee:put d attack, I
trust the house will "Mead their indulgence to ma for a few
moments. (Hear, bear.) Toe hon. gantlets= has called
as to account for a speech I delivered • few days ago to my
constituents at Southwark. I cannot say, sir, that I either
regret or retract one single sentiment I then uttered, for I
believe I. that speech I ',pressed the opinion not only of
the 11,000•Iecton of Southwark, bat of a groat proportion
of the rational men of this country in reference to tU con-
duct of the hoc gentleman in regard to the Turkish Loan Bill.
Sir, when I appeared before my constituents in Southwark,
I !crud a 'lraq feeling of alarm and anxiety pervading
them last the alliance with France should be disturbed and
the war be brought to a disgraceful arid discretable terming-
don. In cedar to allay and tranquillise their alarm, I told
them that if each an event should occur, it would not be
brought about by my stable friend,or the government of which
he wee the head. That was the opinion which I o:primed
to the elsotcn of Southwark. In so doing, I denounced the
throe parties who I thought had united fur the purpose of
eurprisieg the government, on the Turkish loss, and I re-
peat that not • Wail* sentiment which I espreesed on the
mueslis do I 'intact. The hon. member for the West Riding
has refund to a conversation which be says took place
between himself and me at the period of the formation
of Lord Aberdeen's government. No doubt, air, very
friendly relations had edited between the hon. guillemots
and myself. I had for many ye era the honour of his GO-
qsaintance. Upon many subjects I agreed with him, but
upon other subjects I totally and entirely dint/reed with
him. I disagreed with him, as he know., on the subject
of his eatraordinuy sad peculiar views with regard to the
possibility of universal pesos, and so extreme did I think
hi. viewa on that point, that I doubted whether his tine
intellect had not become gbh, rrsnt on that subject. He
Ws, I told him that I was to be appointed Secretary at
ar, and that I had consented to accept aim without
• seat in the cabinet. I have no recollection of having
made each • statement. I never war uked if I would hold
that ellicet. I was offered oflice without a seat in the
cabinet. I recollect talking to the Lon. gentleman before
the formation of Lord Aberdeen's government, about the re-
lations of various parties ; and it is perfectly true that I said
to him, "I ague with you perfectly in opinion on many
subjects, sad it would give me very great pleasure, were
there's& a combination of parties as it is generally en.
moored will take plus if you were • member of the ca
blast." I said, "On the question of free trade, your opinions
would urgent miss." Upon a great number of questions
I have agreed with the hoe. member for the West Riding;
but I never did agree with him upon the subject of
sad he knows that I would never consent to join
pence,
the agitation with regard tO it; and I Colt'
Dim I. private that I thought his views on that subject in-
jured his reputation with the people of this country. I
received him at my hone" for a considerable period of time.
There we had conversations on ail sorts of subjects ; bat I
Myer made notes of those conversati:ns, and cannot now,
like the how pa Osman, repeat what psuld in the freedom
of coaversation. (Rear, hear.) The hon. gentlemaa has
referred to an opinion which I szprersed in a speech some
fifteen years ago. I have read that speech over very care-
fully. It is perfectly true that in fifteen years considerable
change takes plus in men's opinions. It is true that in
some portions of that speech I untie r. 'Olmsted the ambi-
tious deigns of Russia ; but I ii.SO said that if Russia had
the designs attributed to hi r France and Rag.
land ought to asks to prevent her from carrying
them out. Now, sir, on the subjeci of the ambitious de-
signs of Resift, I admit that I have chaoged my opinions
during the last 15 yeas', and one thing which led to that
chug' is the knowledge which I acquired as a member of
the government, of the secret carrin.uadence which took
Minister.
between the Emperor of Russia and the British
Minister. (Hear, hear.) Thom were among the circus-
staacies which induced as to belies, that the ambitions de
micas of Russia, to which I had not previously attached
mach importance, were in reality. Ido not know that I
have 'slitting more to say. I merely rose to say that any
altoratioas which may have taken place in my opinions, are
the result of careful redectiens. I have not of late ozonis-
ed either la this house, or to my coortituents, any opinion
which I am not prepared to maintain.

Sir J. GRAHAM said he was most unwilling to take
past in this discumios. The right hon gentleman (Sir W.
11tewortli) having, bows er, said, with reference to his
speech at the late etection, that he bad ncthiag to retract,
ha rose to say that, having recent:y been a colleague of the
right hos. gentleman, he had such respect for his character
that he was quite sure that, when be had shown hiss that
he bad unintentionally uttered an uatru:h, he would be
prepared to retract • portion of his speech. He understood
the right hon. gentleman to have said th 4 he considered
the conduct of certain parties in that house to have been
unpatriotic, discreditable, and nefarious—attempting, as
the) had done. to surprise the rvernment by a teethes,-
tie° of parties in the vote on the Turkish loan.
New he (Sir J. Graham) happened t be sitting neat to his
hon. friend the member for the P leries (Mr. Ricardo)
immediately before that hon. member rose to address the
house; sad he asked his hon. tele cd whether he was aware
what was the intention of hon. gentlemen opposite with re-
spect to the vote on the loan. His hon. friend told him that
be bad no knowledge whatever as to their intention; and
he (Sir J. Graham) had himself riot the least idead the
gown which those hoe. gentlemen meant to take. An bon
member who was sitting near (as was understood), and
wke was known to both of them—the bon. member for
Horsham—observed that he bad reason to believe that it
wee the intention of hon. gentlemen opposite to support the
meths about to be made, and till that moment neither he nor
his hoe. friend (Mr. Ricardo) had the slightest kaowledge'
ma the subject. lie made that statement poseitively on the
pert kis hoe. friead the member for the Potteries and
and, basing made it, the right hon. gentleman, the
womb" for Southwark would, at all event', from
=rime the statement that there was a sehebua
of partite. ;Hear, hear.)
4,411 f. HOLESWORTH—By the woes "combination
to =uplift the governm• eat," I certainly sever
Sts ilmeribi the impressions wbleb were produeed
• Vied by the events of last Friday week. Oa that
mp wan surprised, not, I will say, by the pate
, Waft With them there has been perpetual wed en
ter—batbythe sodden opening et the
ottasirtitaXht 13011. gentleman who sit! ups Sass
tang loth* beaches pied by the 18061111
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