The Express.
London, England, 1862-03-05 00:00:00

while we do sot feel so." (arise at " Name?) H.
had so roam to give, (Cries of " Ob.") Did as hoe. gen-
tleman consider that there vas any donlie that this Whom
llt
truly rerassated the motimmts of the iodate of Nay-
nooth -Ile would not bars reed ills extract from the
Nefice m oonfirm hie former stalewite les het sat tabor
all the was in hie power to esembeia that the wits he
had weed trelyrepreeseted the emealeseffile of the mindsets
of Nemeth. He asked the nght ha. geristnan whether
ho thee& it to WM inquiry Were he allowed the ad-
dress idle paneled. He would ask permission of the
hems M reed the evidence that wee heisre the right horn..
dthe emathaents Mentalist se 'Wroth, rt.
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whisk ism ghee before the somaisolos=
wed fce * brab awry for North W
Mamma enthtieWee awl thee at Maysooth Use
dose elfin Wl* system wee direst sad positive
he the severeip. et the sosatry. (Cheer) Zee
a few wads QUI& embodied OW widens* el for or ire
witnesses. Hr. W. J. Binh aid. "Preis the ern mad
undisguised disloyalty practised at MeLatnii from the
sow that took place in 1829 at the talftg the
oath of allegiance, I left it a rebel of the trot water, .t,-
lag, desiring, sad praying for the destruction of the British
empire, because it was protestant" The book costelsed
four or flee other statements to the mine effect—not one
word of which was contradicted, showing, that ell he had
adduced was in accordance with the principles and
of Hay 000th. This was the sag that was meg. (La=
He thought it necessary to quote this to justify him is ask-
ing the qucetion. (Orion of " and bsglitsad
If any gentlemen were desirous of it, he td
the words in pegs 343 of the Bre-
" Oolumbia's teaser floats as high,
Her Silk seines at its prey ;
This, Etisp, wig* thy tiled Mr
And raise toy here as Patrick. Day."
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o.4mghter.) Only two mom lino. glassind laughter.
The toart was— . _ _

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" Albion's fall and Erin'a rim oa Parka's day."

(Laughter.) Such was the result of the teaching at May-
math. Therefore the evidence of disloyalty was before
the right hon. gentleman, and be would now conclude by
asking him the question of which he had given notice.
Yr. NEWDEGATE said before the right hon. gentle-
ran answered the question be wished, as it would appear
to have been asked on his authority, to state that though
be was prepared to support all- he had ever said on the
asks= if Maynooth, la knew nothing of the question be-
fore he saw it in the paper.
Sir E. PEEL was sure his boo. friend would say that he
had nothing to do with this question. The address of con-
&tepee was forwarded from Ilaynooth, and was forwarded
to his right hon. friend the Home Secretary, and we dealt
with in the usual manner. The mottos of which
the hon. gentleman spoke had not come to
his (Sir IL Peel's) ea= He had no reason to
doubt the loyalty of the students of Meynooth.
As moot of the authenticity of the address, he held in his
band • letter from Dr. Eason, which had accompanied it.
Mr. B. OSBORNE—I will say nothing about the taste
which bas induced the ben. member for Peterborough to
drag before the boom any address of condoleme offered to
her Most Graeious Majesty. (Cheers.) That is • matter
which the hoe. gentleman must settle between himself and
his followers, who are about to attend at that tower which the
hon. gentleman has built in his corner of his leased pre.
wises in the county of Denbigh—(laughter)—but I must
warn the hour that the hon. gentleman in reading that evi-
dence was playing off one of those old tricks which I heard
him play the other day in Ireland, at the Rotunda meet-
-(bear, hear}—aid which he afterwards followed
up in liootland. He goes about with that blue book,
and he is ortisually quoting that song. (Laughter.)
have heard that song read at full length in the Rotund()
in Dublin ; for I was so fortunate as to resin • ticket to
attend the meeting, where Mr. Whalley was advertised
in red letters in the bill. (Laughter.) He appeared and
taxed not only the Roman catholic priests, but also the
Roman oatholic people of Ireland with disloyalty; sod I should
gay that there could be no greater proof of their good
humour than the fact that the hon. 'soilage= walked out
of the building in a catholic city with • whole skin. (Cheers
and laughter.) The boo. gentleman thought proper to
read that song, and there was of course tremendous cheer-
ing and some laughter. The laughter I was not surprised
to see predominated in this house—(hear, hear)
—for I think the British Haase of Com-
moos is far too sensible to let • subject
which has descended from the hands of the, on other
questions, highly respected member for North Warwick.
shire. be dragged through the kennels of Peterborough.
(Loud cheers and laughter.) Ido hope, air, that though
there is a great lack of Meioses this session, if we are to
have this Mammoth debate revived, the noble Iced will give
the hon. member to-morrow, after two o'clock, to discos.
the question. (Hear bear, a= laughter.) What I de-
precate is that thin insult w queerer should he put
respecting our Roma catholic Maw-subjects ; and above
all that there should be adore= the Oak arguments sad
forgotten songs which the boa. gentleman is in the habit of
using when he stars it in the provisoes. (Loud cheers sad
laughter.)
le remit CABTLEROBSE—As one of the trustees of the
College of Mayneeth, I protest against the language just
used by the hon. member for Peterborough. (Cheers.) The
statements contained in that anonymous letter are quite
untrue. (Hear, hear.) I have here the beet reason for
making that assertion. The statements in that letter are not
founded in fact. (Load cheers.)
Mr. WII ALLEY— I am mum the hour will permit me to
make a statement. (laud cries of " Order.") I rise merely
to explain. (Hear, bear.) The statement of the hon.
number for Liekeard—(order)—
The SPEAKER—The hon. gentleman's explanation roust
be eoefiued to what he has said himself ; he must not reply
to the hon. member. (Cheer)
Mr. wasuzy, after persist/or for a few moments,
amidst load miss el "Order," in hie attempt to obtain •
bowie", resumed his se=
The motion was then agreed to, but it was resolved that
committees might uevertheless have leave to sit.
COLONIAL GOVERNMENT.
Mr. A. MILLS rose to call the attention of the house to
the report of the select committee of last semi= ea colocial
military expenditure, and to move the fOlowhig reminisce :
" That this house (while folly recognisiag the di of all
portions of the British empire to imperial aid in their pro-
tectioc against perils arising from the consequences at im-
perial policy) is of opinion that colonies exercising the
rights of self.government ought to undertake the main re-
sponsibility of providing for their own internal order and
security." The hoe. gentleman rid the committee bed
been most impartially selected, sod they had examined the
beads of the military, the colonial, and the leancial std
heads
of the government. They had also celled as wit-
OMNI many gentlemen both in official and Don-olliciial sites-
tie= • and he believed, in fact, that they had taken all the
evidence which was accessible to them. The main con-
clueless of the committee had been unanimously
agreed to; and his resolution was based upon
those conclusion, so adopted.
Mr. C. BUXTON, in seecediog the motion, said that the
point of his hon. friend's in which he felt most in-
terest was, if they to the colonies the monument
of their own defences what the effect would be on the free-
dom of the aborigiess. He admitted that it was much to
the honour of the home government that they had
showed themselves so sensitive towards the nations under
their rule ; but it was yet open to doubt whether their
policy as well as being • noble had been also • sound one.
The feeling in the colonies was that we insisted on their
union with us, not because it was • boon to them, but
because it was an advantage to ourselves. He believed that
the present system engendered discontent and jealousy ;
and if we only put ourselves in the position of the colonists,
and bad our defences provided for us by some foreign nation,
we could easily understand how such feelings could arise.
Mr. BAXTER moved to add to .the resolution the fol-
lowing words (as he thought it did not go far enough),
" That such colonies ought to contribute towards the im-
perial military expenditure incurred in their external de-
fence, and that u • rule, and except in the case of great
fortresses, no further charge ought to be made upon the
imperial treasury for colonial fortifications." But he sub's-
queutly withdrew the latter part, and substituted for it
words extending the resolution to the external defence of
the colonies.
Mr. C. FORTESCUE said that the government thought
that the introduction of this subject was calculated rather to
strengthen than to weaken their hands in any negotiations with
the colonies in reference to the present system. The employ-
meet of British troops as a kind of domestic police for pre-
serving internal order in the colon= was most objection-
able. Still there were some places where that course might
be pursued with advantage, such, for instance, as the West
India colonies, where the inhabitants were not purely
English, but forming must heterogeneous communities,
composed of various races and descendants of different
nations. He °sly mid this to guard himself from mis-
oonceptiou in assenting to the general principle of the
proposed resolution. There was also an exception to
the rule in the case of colonies like the Cape
and New Zealand, where native tribes were preva-
lent. He entirely agreed in the principle of that part
ef the additios to the resolution moved by Mr. Baxter,
which candeamed the tem of fortification in the colonies,
which had hoes • but he preferred the amendment
as it now stood ; and in ihat form he should accept it. He,
however, urged that in many cases, if not in all, it was the
dot of this coustry to defend its colonies.
air J. ',MUSSON, generally agreeing in the primly',
ef the resolution, urged that its tendency was perhap to
go too far especially when coupled with the smadmemt
which had been moved by way of addition to the WOW
notion.
Mr. SALIM:TETON stated that whatever miggs6 be
the abstract vale* of the resolution, tits peewee
was the most inopportune moment for raisin the
gessitoe, looking to recent events, which bad nearly
tweeght us into a war which would have involved
tbe safety of the North American colonies ; and when,
"leder the circumstances, those colonies had shown
so much spirit and vigour in preparing for their own de-
fence, in au imperial war. In time of peace the Mee*
American colonies did not want • single soldier, and it ems
mot their fault that any military expenditure was Incurred
In this respect by the imperial treasury. The defect of
the resolution was, that it applied to all the colonies, which
mom se diverse in their circumstances and conditions, that
el. lILDgird diffirensat • colonist, body expresd the
eatiefsetiou he felt at the resolution, llod thanked the bow.
C■ for having brought before the house a
ermatteratie, and one **likely to modems to the=
be bee el ths oolonies and of the empire. (Beam hear.)
The se breaded. was wool to.