The Express.
London, England, 1863-03-21 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, MARCIE 21, MS.

from which he abdusted the said Ellab.b balmy, sad
that he was discharged with the nomad panishment of
entering into his own recomusanoe in the sum of 1001. The
bon. member read a number of affidavits to show that a
serious outrage bad been committed, and imetended that
through admitting the perpetrator to bail the ends of justice
bad faded.
Sir R. PEEL said he could not exactly understand what
the object of the hon. member for :Sligo (Mx. O'Hara)
was in submitting this case to the house. It
was true that apparently violence was offered to
the young woman. It was in fact a rather
rough courtship. (Laughter.) The young man was in love
with the young woman, the parent readed his wit, and an
abdaction was attempted. (Laughter.) The ease after-
wards prooeeded to a second attaok, and after that the
young man married the young woman, and they were, he
premmed, living happily together at the meant moment.
(Renewed laughter.) The hon. gentleman had said that it
was very hard to have released this man upon bail, and that
it was an outrage to justice to have attempted such a pro.
needing. But the young man appeared when called upon,
and pleaded guilty to the charge and he really did not see
that any great infringement of justice had taken place
under the circumstanced, in releasing the man upon bail

after he had been six weeks in prison. At all eventa, the
ease wee happily finished, and be trusted that the young
man would cooduct himself properly for the future.
(Laughter.) With reference to the remarks d the right
hon. gentleman (Mr. Whiteside) he was equally at a loss to
understand the object of bringing before the bOelle at the
present time the came of the unhappy and unfortunate
murder of Mr. Sreddel in July last year. That caw was
brought under the notice of the house on two or
three occasions hat year, and he (Sir E. Peel)
bad then endeavoured to show that everything
had been done by the government to discover the
known perpetrator of this meet audacious offence, but as
had been truly said, up to the present time the man bad
escaped.
Sir G. C. LEWIS, in replying to certain observations of
Colonel Dickson, offered some explanations in reference to
the making up of clothing for the army at the factory at
Pimlico.

- Sir H. STRACEY brought under the notice of the house
the expediency of constructing the works necessary to pro-
tect the Yarmouth mutates& from attack by sea.
The house then went into committee of supply.
On a vote, of 321,884 L for the volunten being pro-
Poled G,
Si, G. C. LEWIS mid, in reference to the fairness or
unfaireens of going into committee of supply on the present
oxasion, that when the change was made there was a
clear understanding that the government were to be at
liberty to go into committee on Fridays as well as Thurs-
days. The simple question wet, whether it was possible to
continue the public business at • quarter past 10 o'clock.
(Hear, hear.) With regard to the vote before the com-
mittee, there was an increase this year of 199,0001. The
increase was owing to • government proposal founded upon
the report of the royal commission,- which took evidence
upon the subject of the volunteers, and reported that. in
their opinion, the volunteer force bad reached • put at
which a large part of it would be dissolved if it did not re-
mire some subsidy from the public. (Hear, hear.)
If they looked at the !Astray of former volun-
teer corps—the volunteers in 1801, for instance—they
would see that the country came to their assistance by pub-
lic grants at a much earlier period, and to a much greater
extent than at present. (Hear, hear.) The plan proposed
by the commission was that there should be • capitation
grant for • defined purpose. The sum should not be paid to
each individual, but to the adjutants of regiments, who
would disbar*" it and account to the War Department
There would be • capitation grant of 20s. fez every man
who passed • certain scale of drill, and • further grant of
10s. for way aim who pass • certain course of military
instruction. He truted the committee would feel that,
upon the whole, the government were justified in proposing
this vote.

Lord LOVAINE objected to the vote, and complained of
the gradual increase of the charge for volunteers. He
thought he should claim the assistance of hon. gentlemen
below the gangway when he moved for the reduction of this
vote. Those gentlemen must acknowledge the form of the
argument, either that there was imminent danger to the
country, or that the danger bad passed, and that it wae now
time that the volunteer force should support itself. The
object of the commission was not to ascertain whether or
not the volunteer force was neonfary ce useful, but bow
it could be best maintained in its present state
of efficiency. The question was, did the country
really want this force of soldiers. This ospitation put
amounted to nearly 160,0001. If this was a mere military
luxury, he at least insisted upon the neceesity of not grudg-
ing the public money towards the maintenance of the health
and comfort of the regular soldier. He moved that the
vote be reduced by 154,5761., being the amount of the ami•
tation grant.
Mr. WILLIAMS said the noble lord complained of the
expenditure of 154,0001. upon the volunteer faros, but he
made no complaint of the expenditure of 14,000,0001. upon
the ntar army. He thought that no GOO of the TOWS
which been submitted to the bones was more economical
than this. (Hear.)
Colonel BARTTELOT said that the question was,
whether the volunteer force was a useful body or not. He
wee one of the royal commissioners who had to consider
this subject, and one of their inquiries was whether or
not the volunteer force was likely to dwindle away unless
this vote of money wee made for them. The commis-
elopers thought that would be the case. They found, also,
that there was no other way than this of getting a clam of
men to serve their country without pecuniary madame.
The volunteers included in their ranks a body of men who
would never volunteer into the ranks of the army, navy, or
militia. He thought if this money were voted it would not
be thrown away. At small expense a most valuable 'tipple-
mentor, form would be obtained to the regular service of
the °poetry.
Mr. H. LEWIS agreed that this was cue of the most eco-
nomical votes that had been proposed to this hones.
Sir G. BOWYER said that the speech of the noble lord
would be received with unanimous dissent by all classes in
this country. The volunteers came forward at • moment
of emergency, or supposed emergency, and he did not be-
lieve that the country would grudge the osmium necessary
to keep up so valuable a force in an efficient state. There
was ocrusiderable advantage in keeping up the military spirit
of the nation, and as the volunteers contributed to this end
he thought they ought to be supported to • fair end raison-
able extent.

Colonel DUNNE maid not conceive why they should
vote 190,000 i., or 300,00 W., or, as be believed it would ulti-
mately be, 500,0001,, for the volunteers when Ireland wee
Left without any defence whatever. The volunteers would
be • valuable body to doubt if as invasion were to take
place, but at present he (14 not see what wee the me of
having a body of men dressed up in blotting-paper, and
standing together on certain days, taking up more room
than the regular soldiers did. (" Hear," and laughter.)
Colonel NORTH considered the volunteer force most
honourable to the country, and that they did their duty in
• manner that was worthy of all praise.
Sir J. SHELLEY said that the volunteers were admirably
drilled, considering the time they were able to devote to
drill. The question was, whether the volunteers, as • de-
fensive force, were worth the money which it was proposed
to vote for them.

Mr. DILLWYN supported the vote, ou the ground that
the volunteers were a cheap and ►t the IMO time a de-
fensive force.

Mr. BUXTON laid that every volunteer in the country
would be most grateful to the government for proposing
this vote. (Haar, bear.)
Yr. JACKSON said that in the case of the riot, or rather
row, referred to, which had occurred at Birkenhead between
the Orangemen and the Roman catbolio mob, the volunteers
were tot in a position to use their muskets, even if such •
course bad become neccesary; they were acting as special
constables merely, and an order was made by the magis-
trates, with the concurrence of Lieut.-Colonel Kies, that
the nipples should betaken off for the purpose of rendering
the muskets useless to either of the contending parties.
Mr. ADDINOTON thought that the numbers of volun-
teers were overestimated,and inquired what the number

of efficient men really was'?
Sir G. LEWIS raid it was impossible to conceive a more
efficient force obtained at a law expense than the volunteers
ootietitutecl. In reply to the hon. member (Mr. Addiog-
too) he should state that they amounted now to 138,000
effective men. (Hear, bear.)
Lord LOVAINE protested spinet as expense which he
considered was not required, or justified by the nessesitiee at
the country.
Mr. GARNROTE supported the vote.
After a few observations from Mr. MLCI26,
The unsuclinent was withdrawn and the votearml to.
Th e vote of 58.8471. for scrolled passions,. end re.
serve wee agreed to.
On the vote of 958,3851. for the naculaotaring depart-
ments and materials for the manufacture of warlike stores,
Sir J. FERGUSBON said it wu impossible to pro ly
consider this vote CAM MOM iDfOlllllO4Oll with regard tO it
was given by the governmsuk (Cries of "Postpone it" and
" Report progress.")
Sir G. LEWIS then moved that the Chairman report
progress, which was agreed to.
MARINE MUTINY RILL.
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In committee on this bill,
Mr. WHITE moved to omit clause 28, which gins
power to indict corporal punishment ; but the debate woe
adjourned ; and
The CHAIIIIIAN reported progress.

TRUSTEES (SCOTLAND). ACT AMENDMENT BILL.
This lin yea read r third time and weed.
ROMAN CATHOLIC MARRIAGES REGIETRATION
(IRELAND) BILL
Mr. BUTT obtained leave to brim in a Mil to permit
the registratloa of throe earners.
OFFICE OF SECRETARY•AT•WAR ABOLITION

Sir G. LEWIS obtained hove to bring i► ►IAD toabolish
the coos of Secretai7 at War, and to *sestet the dation
of that elks to One of ber Majoity's Principal Seezetarioe
of Stets.

AUFURD obtainod leave to bring in a bill to give
relief to moos wbo May ranee or be unwilling drew al-
leged sowneitatiows motives to be sworn in criminal pro-
oseft. in Inetlead.
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