The Express.
London, England, 1855-08-03 00:00:00

IMPERIAL R

HOUSE OF LORDS..—TntrasDAT, Auourr 2.
Th. Loy) CRANOMUML took hic coat at 6 o'clock.
_ BALARIgB OF COUNTY COURT JUDGES.

The Burl aisearlas.sers-1
*Lining of the power given to the Treasury of offering
1.6001. to one judge sad only 1,2001. to another. The only
argument which be could oneseive in favour of plating each
a power in the heads of the Traasury was that it would
strengthen the goversineat, bat he thought it would equally
strengthen thus by placing the power in the hands of tits
Lord CheneAlor.

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Earl GRAN VILLE acid the subject Was under conside-
ration.

The LORD CHANCELLOR thought It would be u
elect enable to place the power in the hands of the Lord
Chanoellor as in the Treasury. He thought then ought to
he no discretion anywhere.

. SALE OF BEER BILL.
This LIU was brought ap from the Coassaoss, sad read s
drat tine.
TURKISH LOAN.
This bill was read a ant time.
Their lordships adjourned at 6 o'clock.

HOUSE OF

-THURSDAY. Ago. 2.

[Continued from minders ZzprEss].
SUPPLY.

Upon the vote of 3,7111. for the *spume of Me Statute
Law Commission.
Mr. WILLIAMS believed that a chug* of 1,6001. was
ematainod in this vote for certain bills for consolidating the
statute law. • It was worthy of remark that these bills had
never appearoi upon the table of the house.
Mr. CRAUFURD noticed that the vote of last year was
for 1,0001. for Chief Commissioner. sad 6001. each for four
other sommisaleasse. Sisiee then, the frame of the tow

Rhodos bad bees entirely altered, and the money had bees
differently applied. He supposed that there was some
authority See that Meg.
In snawer to Ur.
Sir G. GREY stated that Mr. B. Rev had been of soma.
Sal um to the Lord Chancellor in reporting upon bills in
their progrerm through parliament. Those reports were
generally in elm nature of private, sometimes indeed they
were only of oral, communkations, and hence it was not
poesible to Produce Sutra.
Mr. NAPIER made some general observations upon law
reform, which were echoed by Mr. MAURY.
The vote woe then agreed to.
3,000,000 i. VOTE OF CREDIT.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that,
after the statement which he made in April last, it would
be necessary to trouble the house with but few words upon
the present occasion. He then stated that he should prspose
a vote of cradle to the extent of 3,000,0001. for the purposes
of the war. That rem wu taken into account and in the
estimates for the budget. His only duty at the present time
was to move the vote of eredit to the extent whkh he had
already mimed, in order to enable her Majesty to pay any
additional 'imam which might arise in the conduct of the
war.

Mr. WILLIAMS ►ad thought, from what wu stated upon
a forme misesice, that the whole of the vote of cr.dit of last
year had not been upended. The amounts required both
foe the army and militia had certainly fallen short of what
It was estimated would ►ave been the sum wanted, and
Yeses Sum ought to be a haunt in head under that head.
Kr. PEEL said there would no doubt be • considerable
saving in the pay of the army and of the militia, but on the
other bud there was • large inarsau in respect of hospitals
and for the pay of the Turkish contingeet.

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER (as we
understood) said that one million sad a half of the vote of
last year remained to the credit of the Exchequer.
Mr. WiLLIANIB did not see bow a vote of 3,000,0001.
would sulks to cover an expenditure for extra purpoies
which would sauna& be behaved, to upwards of 6,000,0001
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER did not
quite undentand the meanies of his hon. fnend. and could
not therefore see the dill:ally :whieh appeared to strike
him. His boa. friend wu aware that a certain amount WU
voted for the army, soother sera for the navy, another for
the ordnance ; but that wider consideration was • general
vote of credit for 3.000.0001. • the whole amount of which
would be applicable to the carries of tie wee, in addition to
the other special tutee. Of cows the fast of • vote of credit
being takes did not iaereaeo the expenditure. If the arnosat
was not required it would not bo drawn upon.
The vote was that agreed to.
BUPPLR‘I"—-'""t9,—COMMIS-

7ARY ESTIN
SARIAT.

Mr. PEEL, is rising to --------- of 2,668,33 M. for sup-
plementary eotamisteviet Papooses, stated tbat Mom the first
estimates ander this head wire moved, at the entometme•

meet of the Isar, the time which had elapsed had enabled
the government to form a more accurate notion than they
formerly cond do of what the wants of the army
would be in this respect, and they found that the sum
already named would he requisite to meet the necessary
expenses. The circumstance of to large a supplementary
estimate being needed might be said to show a want of
foresight on the part of the government, but the committee
should remember the nature of the service for which this
farther sum was asked. That service was of so peculiar a
nature, was liable to so much interferon', in its operations
' from the rise and fall of markets, and from many other cir-
cumstances easily imagined, that it was impossible at the
early pert of the per to state with accuracy and eartaiwy
what would be the demand which it might make upon the
public toe. In addition to those matters to which he
had already alluded, the magnitude of the vote depended
very materially upon the number of persons for whom the
nation was called upon to provide ; an element of calcula-
tion always varying, subject in the course of a few months
to most material changes. To give an instance of this, he
had only to mention tbat since the vote was taken
in the early part of the year the government
had had to provide for the provisioning of large addi.l
tional bodies of men. They had had to undertake this
duty in respect to the troops furnished by the kingdom of
Sardinia, although the amount paid under that head would
ultimately be repaid by the Sardinian government. Then
they had also had to provision the men forming the Turkish
contingent tinder General Vivian. He thought that the
fasts which he had just stated would be sufficient to show to
the committee that it was impossible at a distance of towel
months to fix with certainty what the requirements of the
commissariat department might be. The first item upon
the estimate was a sum of 1,0001, 7001 of which was required
for salaries, and the remaining 3001. was asked to cover con-
tiagescies of that as . The next sum was 761,7501. for
the Land Transport Corps, the whole of which amount arse
required to pay for the animals sad other nei solaria apper-
Wising to that body. Is the early part of the year
238,2501. was taken for this part of the service, but from
the experience of the year the government found that a
mush larger nun would be necessary. He might take that
opportunity of mentioning to the committee that
great difficulty had been experienced in raising
men for this corps among the Turks. Whether this
arose from exaggerated statements having gone abroad
In the East with regard to the sufferings of
our army in the course of last winter he could not say, but
of the fact itself there was no doubt. Such being the cast,
it had been recommended that a body of 1,000 men for the
purposes of the Land Transport Corps should be raised in
this country, and the government were taking steps for ear-
trying that recommendation into effect. The large inmate
which had taken place in the number of animals be-
loosing to this corps would show to the committee that an
increased vote was necessary. He found that at the begin-
ning of May Colonel Whfurdo took over with his 2.500
animals, while as the 26th June he had 7,000. Vika' the
numbers were now, be need not stets for obvious reasons,
but he could amours the committee that a proportionate in•
crease had gone on. Honourable members were alto aware
that to this corps the duties appertaining to the ambalasee
division attached. The nest item in the estimate was the
sum of 15,0001. for the freight aad transport of specie to va-
rious statibiltibt Medan expenditure from the commissariat
chests ; for whisk wpm a sum of 7,5001. was voted in the
early part of the year. Ilse large increase upon this item was
partly owing to the ken which was guaranteed on behalf
of Turkey for the Nagoya:me of which to Constantinople
the government had to provide. The next amount to be
voted consisted of the sons required for provisions, forage,
fuel, and light. Ia the bet place he would direct the atten-
don of the committee to the first of them matters. The sum
now asked in respect of previsions was 823.7251., the former
vote having been 531,5501. Part of the amount now asked
essietod of 274,6001., to be applied to the provisioning of
the &Wit:lien army, a sum which the Sardinian government
by a convention Into which they had mitered were bound
to repay. In addition to this extra source of expense there
was the provisioning of the Tarkish contingent to come out
of this amount. Another body—for which the government
did not expect to have to provide during the present year—
, via., the Foreign beat, would also require a portion of
this sum. The governments had also taken stem for the
establishment of depots of provisions, and this again
required a large amount. It would, perhaps, be satisfactory
to the committee if he took that opportunity of stating
what was the dietary of the soldier at the present time.
He had a pound of most, a pound of biscuit, pound of
bread, for which a deduction of nd. per day was made ;
Id. alto was deducted for an allowance o nue. In addition
to these articles he reesived 12 os. of roger , I es. of groenA
coffee or tea, as well as pepper, tto , and vegetables either
fresh or preserved. It was also, he thought, satisfacttry to
state that arrangements were now made by which the men
were enabled to have fresh meat five days out of 7. One
other point in connexion with the matter ought not to be
passed over ; it was that M. Boyer had lately been both to
Scutari and the camp, end under his direction various ar-
rangements had been made which would enable the men to