The Express.
London, England, 1864-06-17 00:00:00

THE EXiqiiSBlr fittPAY EVFNING. SITNE 17. - 1864.

that for the object for t hick these guns ware intended
oinzrle-laut,g aou.l be more useful tuau tresch.loading,
and insomuch as the skeet principle wu ono which the
&Nairn/et had hail most exocrine°, and which had already
pre•Jueed very favourable reselle, it was decided to rifle
them on that plan. It must be recollected that these gees
were mall afautund by Sr W. Armstrong, and adapted to
his xi st.m, and probably it would not have been at all
sati.factory it any other system of titling recommended by
any other lot-moor bad been applied to them. However, the
detennioation of the War-offieedid not lathe least bind them
to the adoption of the shunt principle, the prieciple proposed
by Mr. Whitworth, or any other, for future coos trocuoti. W ith
regard to the latter past of the question, the system bad
Leen extensively tried at Shoeberynom and on board the
nery practice ship Excellent at Portsmouth. They bad
a great number of reports at the War-office relating to the
sul.jew, and he was not aware of any objective to laying
them upon the table. It would, however, take a consider-
able time to prepare them, and as no definitive resolution
had been come to in regard to the system to be adopted, he
thought it would be as well to defer a productiou of the
reports for the presort.
REGISTRATION OF TITLES (IRELAND.)

Mr. WALDRON asked whether the Bill for the Regis-
tration of Tales is Irelead would be introduced before the
esii of the 'swims ? and

Mr. SCULL] inquired whether if a bill would tot be
introduced this session the government would consider the
props istv of issuing a commission on the subject?
Mr. O'HAGAN announced that a bill on the subject of
the trader of land in Ireland was in preparation, end he
hoped to lay it upon the table on an early day. He did not
anticipate the necessity for a commission, se be was can .
dent of laying the bill on the table this session.

coatroom decency. (Hear, hear.) But when imputations
were so lavishly ease Ines the characters of honourable men
without notice and!withint affording any opportunity for •
reply to the charge*, he thought it only consistent with
right and justice to Mon • mama a Lich, however right is
itself, was brought forward ender tech circumstances.
(Cheers.) He hoped that the boom, rennet Unbeaten,
that the goverment had no objection to the inquiry itself,
would reject a motion brought forward as this was, Red in
that way Mein • proper meson upon the manner in which
the boa. gentleman had performed a public duty. (Cheers-)
Mr. M. SMITH said it was not his place to defied a whig
government or ita appointments, bat knowing the commis-
sworn who hoed been wailed by the hon. member foe
Devonpott he most state his belief that the charges brought
forward against them wen wholly unfounded. (Hear, bear.)
The noble lord who was at the bead of the government
when the appointments of the momentums,. were mode
made them with reference to the ability and the integrity
of the men, and be was quits sure, as far as the chief com-
missionr was 0000erned—a man whom be had known for
many years—• moan honourable and conscientious parson did
sot exist. (Hen, hear.) U that gentleman had any poll.
Cad feeling at all, mid if nit weed the mildest description,
not a tinge of that feeling would be allowed to enter into say
of his decisions.
Mr. OSBORNE, however be might regret the highly
coloured, if not exaggerated, etatennta made by the hoc.
gentleman the member for Devouport, is bringiog this
motion before the house, could not help regretting also the
manner in which it had been met by her Msjesty's govern-
ment. (Hear, hear.) Whee they bad a member of pule-
meat on his own responsibility remelt down to the house
with an imposing array of farts and &collection of oranges—
(laughter)—and making • speech of an hoar and a half
long, containing the gravest charges possible to be made in
that house againt gentlemen to public offices, he did
not think it wee lucomiug to the government to resist
gelatin a committee of inquiry. (Hear.) If these change
brought forward by the boo. gentlemen were not founded in
fact they would rebound upon himself, and he would neer
be able —he would not say to show his face again in that
house, for be knew he was • man of great bravery—
(l•ughter)—Mit to bring forward another charge in that
house. (Haar.)
Mr. ADDERLEY would be sorry to give • vete which
should to any way appear to redeet either on the Charity
Commission or the Charity Commie:osiers ; but when
uneaten were made against them. although the house
might take exception to the tone and temper of the bon.
member—(bear, hear) —he thought ths accusations should be
I iaquired into.
Mr. LOWE said that he could not agree with the hoe.
member fur Liskeard or the hon. gentleman opposite
(Mr. Adderley), that because • gentlemen chose, without
baying the slightest regard to the feelings of other., or
without giving any notice to hon. members who were
able to defend those who were precluded from
defending themselves, to get up and scatter ecru.
sations broadcast against honourable men, with-
out !mein regard to the fact that whatever was
stated in that house was published, and that stains might
attach to men's characten from his wanton trey of talking
—he could not agree that such accusations, so made, were
sufficient reasons for calling upon parliament to inquire
into the matter. That win particularly so when such
charges were made by a gentleman whose past career in
that house ought to have made him particularly careful in
exercising that right of speech which they all poseemed,
and of which they were justly proud, but which
ought to be exercised with dignity, moderation,
end care for the feedings of others. (Great cheering.)
The hon. gentleman, when he moved for the papers on which
he founded his prevent motion, asserted that the Charity
Commissioners had abstracted 78,600/. from the money of
the charities, and he pledged hinmaU to prove that to the
house. But where was his proof' He had sot brought for-
ward any—(bear, beer)—and be (Mr. Lowe), therefore,
asked the house if, with these samples of the hon. gentle-
man's reckleesome of assertion and vehemence of accusakoo,
they wen willing to grant • committee to inquire into his
charges spinet the ODMMiIIIiODOTIL (Hear, bear.)
Mr. FERRAN!) explained that he bad distinctly stated
the chine of misappropriation of the 78,0001. was oue made
in that hones by Mr. Apeley Pellatt.
Mr. J. A. SMITH said that the charges against Mr. Grey
were utterly and gratuitously false, and in opposing the ap-
poinciana of • committee be took credit to himself for
doing so on grounds more clear and more distinct than any
yet mentioned. He foetid them in the journals of tee home
for the 10th April. 11444, which declared that the imputa-
tions which the hon. gentleman (Mr. Fernand) had in that
year made upon the character of the late Sir James
Graham and Sir James Weir Hogg were wholly
unfounded and calumnious (hear, bear)—and did
not effect in the slightest degree the honour
and character of those two members to whom they were
applied. (" Hear, bear," and cheers.) Just so, the charges
against Mr. Grey did nut affect in the slightest degree his
honour or his dignity. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. MAIANS believed the commission was working very
admirably. He regretted that a gentleman who sat oe the
some side of the house with him should not 'mese:erne d
more forbearance and delicacy of feeling for others in
bringing forward his motion. (Hear, bear.) He truskd
the house world not make itself • party to these personal
attacks. (Hear, hear.)
Lord GALWAY said he thought that the charity com-
mission was at any rate preferable to the Court of Chancery.
Anything worse than the Court of Chaocery's superinten-
dence of charities was impossible. if the inquiry asked for
was to embrace the question of expellee he would vote for
it. He did not wish to say a word against the Charity Com-
missioners, but be could not help stating that the solicitor's
bill was most exorbitant. (Loud cries of " Divide.")
The house then divided, when the numbers were:
For Mr. Ferrand's motion 4O
Against it ll6-76
SUPPLY.

The hones then went into committee of amply.
On the vote of 21,2784 for the salaries end allowances of
the governors of the West li.dian mid South American
colonies,
Mr. HENNESSY moved the reductive of the vote
by a sum of 450/.. the additional charge for the colony of
Anguilla. The island wee formerly owe of some importance,
and was the spot from which Sea Island cotton originally
0n.... Its trade was now greatly dinliniehed, and it. total
reveeue amounted to about 4141. asonally. The population
consisted of about 100 whites and 2,40 U blacks. There was
a local body, which levied taxes, and seemed to regulate the
charges that the committee were abed to pay. lt wee now
sonOt to increase the annual grant by • sum of 4501., for
the ezpooem of a presiding magistrate, and to this additional
expenditure he objected.
The committee divided—
For the reduction 34
Against it

104,561. for consuls abroad.
Yr. AYRTON wished to know whether any arrangement
had bees made for the re•appointmect of consuls in the Con-
federate States! He was afraid that there was a sort of
combination between our consuls and the foreign police to
elect money from English traveller..
Mr. LAYARD muse say it was a most unjustifiable thing
to bring such a charge against our consuls aimed. (Hear,
hear.) He repudiated the emulation altogether. It was
utter', unfounded. With regard to the consuls in the Con-
federate States, no arrangemeats had been made for their
reappointment. but it would be very ungenerous to stop
their galena under the cinumatances.

Sir G. BOWYER said that the burst of red tape indigos,
tiou which they bad just heard wen really enough to take
away one's breath. It illustrated the saying that there was
only one step front the sublime to the ridiculous. (Hear,
bear.) With retard to our eosin! at Rome. be could
understand what wee the use of • annul there. He wee
not aware what conneetioe there was between Rome and this
country. (Laughter.) Rotue was not • 'commercial city, but
the fact was that the British consul is that city bail always
been • political character. He thought the consul at Rome
ought to be suppressed, bemuse he was sot only useless bat
mischievous.

Mr. WHITESIDE baked for so expleoatioo of the &Wee
of Mr. Ode }Wastell.

Captain JERVIS also joined in that request, and asked
what salary he received.
Mr. LAY ARD said that every member of the committee
moat be perfectly well aware of what the duties of Mr. Odo
Russell consisted. (No, no.) Well, if they did not know
them, be could not explain what they were. (Laughter,
and " Oh.") It was well known that by the act of panic.
merit no person could hold a diplomatic position at Rome— '
(Cries of What salary ?")—but at the same time it was
well to have a British agent at Rome to report to the go-
vernment at home. He really did not know at the moment
what salary Mr. Odo Rouen received, but he believed be
was paid the salary attached to the office of a second seas-
tory. He would repeat that Mr. Odo Russell was not ac-
I credited to Rome, but resided there for the purpose of
attending to business which could not be neglected.
Mr. AYRTON said the real question was whether the
amoral at ROW, could not do the business there without the
interference of Mr. Odo Russell. whose functions the
Under-Secretary found it ito difficult todefine.

Lord PALMERSTON mid that by the lawn it stood we
were precluded from Laving direct diplomatic relations with
Rome. As act of parliament had bees passed some years
mime authorising such relations. but that act contained a
clause providing that so ecclesiutie should he received in
this country as the representative of the Pope.
The court of Rome took offset* at that clause,
sad said that if it could not be represented by
as ecclesiastic it should not be represented at all,
sad also that an accredited minister from England would
not be received. It appeared, however, to the government
almost childish that the great object of having diplomatic
intercourse with the sovereign of Rome should be foiled by
a mere question of etiquette, and accordingly the Secretary
of Legation at Florence was sent to Roma, to be our us-
organ these. He (Lord Palmerston) forgot who it
was who original) y went there, but of late Tears
Mr. Ckle Russell had been, although unofficially,
the diplomatic agent of the aroma of England at Rome.
He wee permitted the freest access to the Pope, was on the
best possible terms with him, and was these solely for diplo-
mat& purposes. It was qeme a mistake te suppose that he
was engaged is any polities.' intrigues, or otherwise em-
ployed than in giving his government the information which
was usually supplied by diplomatic agent.. Hie functions
were totally distinct from those of • coral, sad could sot
be perfermed Ly that functionary.
Mr. H. SEYMOUR said that the consular sad diplomatic
duties were salted in many places, and be did not see why
they sheeld sot be suited in Rome.
The tole was spud to.

Os the vote of 106,503& for tbWoonsular service abroad,
Mr. H. SEYMOUR moved that the chairuuus report
Progress.
Lord PALMERSTON said u the discussion oo this vote
bad lasted two hours, be hoped the committee would agree
to this vote to-sight. The 'warmest did not mess to
take any other vote blight
Mr. H. SEYMOUR said there were msny important
questions still to be discard on this vote ; for iestues. Use
small amount of fees paid over by the consuls to the
government.
Mr. LA YARD said if his hoe. friend would look to the
accounts be would see there had been annually as itlarellall
in the amount of fees paid over to the government
The committee thee divided :
For reporting progress
Against lll-71
Mr. D. GRIFFITH moved that the Chairman do leave
the chair. (" Hear, hear," and " Oh.")
Lord PALMERSiON hoped timbals, would go on with
this vote.

Mr. GRIFFITH had no objection to go on if the house
would only give him ten minutes. (" Oh, ob," and
laughter.) He wished to obtain mime explanation with
respect to the system of fees. He condemned the system
of taking fees air passports, whether the money went to the
consul or to the government.
Lord PALMERSTON said that at one time the consuls
were paid by fees solely, the result of which was that
there were great inequalities in the salaries of the consuls
in different localities. With a view to remedy these in.
equalities the committee which at a few years ago recom-
mended that the consuls should be paid by Axed alariee.
That was done ; but the eoosuls Mill performed certain no-
tarial acts, and he thought it only fair wheel individuals
called on them to perform such acts that a small payment
should be paid for such services. (Hear. hear.)
Sir M. FARQUHAR said he did not see why Englishmen
travelling abroad should not pay small fees for services
for which they would probably have to pay more at home.
He thought the fees ought to he defrayed by the travellers
abroad.

The amendment was then nefottived and the vote agreed to.
The CHAIRMAN then reported program, and the home
reeamed.
SUPPLY URPORT.

Oe consideration of postponed reeolutions of supply,
Mr. BUTT, who had on the paper a notice, on resolution
of expenses of inspectors of factories, to call attention to
the inadequate reinueezation of the special commisauners
of Irish fisheries, especially the legal commissioner ; and to
move, that the vote be reduced by the sum of
1,4451., the salaries and expenses of the coin.
missiasees foe Ireland ; bud b• must call the attention
of his tight honourable friend the Chief Secretary
to this subject. (Cries of "Adjourn.")
After a short conversation,
Mr. BUTT withdrew his arneedment, and the resolution
was agreed to.
INLAND REVENUE (STAMP DUTIEI3) BILL.

The bonne went into committee on this bill

The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved a
ISMS of resolutions which we published yesterday, and
which were pet and *greed to.
Si, F. GOLD:BCD moved the adjournment of the
house.
The hours divided :
For the motion
Against it
On the order for the adjourned debate on the Election
Petitions Bill.

Mr. LOCKS moved theadjouremeat of the debate, which
was agreed to.
The other onion of the day were then disposed of, and the
house adjourned at a quarter to two o'clock.

LAW INTELLIGENCE.

HOUSE OF LORDS.—Toss 16.
.A.PYEALS.
TILVERTON ek, YELVIRTON.

After our report left yesterday,
The Attorney-Guaira having gone through the cor-
respondeDoe and quoted pommy* from it illustrative of
the argument which has been stated, and having brought
it down to the point at which the appellant and respondent
met in Edinburgh, at the epoch when the Scotch marriage
is alleged to have taken place. proceeded to argue the ques-
tion of Scotch law involved, affirming, as may be
supposed, that there was • verbal contract between
the parties which crested what may be called • prima facie
marriage according to Scottish law, and that the cohabits-
tioo, which the respondent admitted to have occurred alter
the Iriah marriage, was such as to satisfy the requirements
of the law of Scotland with regard to copula, and its con-
nexion with the marriage contract in that country. He
urged that consent to marriage, • promise of marriage, might
be discovered by habit sad repute, and that the erideave of '
habit and repute, as applicable to that deduction.
of the parties in Scotland was quite sufficient
to establish such as &grew:gaol to marry. He quoted au-
thorities and cases decided by Lord Stowell in this country,
and by the judges io Soothed in support of Lis coateotioc.
In regard to the conduct of the respondent while in Scot-
land, it was contended that it was consistent only with the
purest intention, and with a view to marriage alone ; and
that was evidenced by the fact that she took with her and
kept as an inmate, layout's lady of 20, Mum Macfarlue.
If she went to Edinburgh simply for the purpose of throw-
ing herself into the arms of the appellant, there
was no difficulty in finding every convenience
for carrying out such • purpose secretly and quietly,
whereas the respondent took care to festal! herself in a
respectable lodging, most ill-adapted for carrying oa an
improper intimacy, west into society, and moved amongst
ber friends ; acting altogether as a person who had no
notion of the deliberate impropriety which bed been attri-
bated to her. The evidence of indifferent persons in Edin-
burgh went to sbow that the conduct of the appellant and
the respondent towards each other was perfectly correct
and proper, while it was that which might be expected from
two persona engaged to be married. The learned counsel
referred to the letters written by the respondent after she
left Scotland, and in the interval between that time and
their meeticg in Ireland, sad urged that the deduction
from them was that there had been a Scotch marriage
which did not satisfy her conscience sufficiently to induce
her to permit the appellant to enjoy those conjugal rights
which he had pressed ; and the refusal of which had
caused them to part angrily ; sod expressed her fears of
her own weakness ou that point if they should meet again
before such a ceremoey should take place between
them as should satisfy her religious scruples as a
Roman catholic. It was contended that in the letter in
which the appellant acknowledged the receipt of some mar-
riage cords of Mr. and Rm. Shears, sent to him by the re.
speediest, there was a distinct admission of promise of mar-
ries, while the agitated sad impassioned letter of the nap=
dent in reply to it, which had been so much commented on,
and which contained the expression. " I who have sacrificed
ell but God for you," proved that she bad not yielded to the
appellant ; for that expression could ocly be construed into
meaning that she bad not sacrificed her religious scruples,
which had not been satisfied by the Scotch marriage.
The lammed comae' had not concluded when the home
adjourned.

planation is very ussatisfactory. We beg once more to
point out that our columns are ogee to the lady or her legal
representatives, and that we shad be happy to publish any
further eaplsnatios that they may think desirable or us-
cosset y."
The plaintiff, her father, brother sal eider
were essinised, sad they said that the assoysaa
caused by the articles was so great, that it wu not &mire-
ble that the plaintiff or her sister should continue in the
shop, aod the takings fell off from 10/. or 11/. a week to about
half that sum. It appeared, however, that previous to the
article there bad been a bill up that the shop was to be let,
and the plaintiff said she at that time intended to take
larger premises. It also seemed that the plaintiff had not
been much in the busincee for three months before the
article was written.
Mt. Chambers submittal that the article wee not libel-
lous, inasmuch u it was only a fair comment upon what
had taken plaoe at Guildhall.
Mr. Justice Bytes said that he should leave to the jury
the question whether the article was libellous, but he added
that it was evident that there was no malice—in the ordi-
nary meaning of the term—on the part of the writer.
Mr. Chambers than urged the view which be had pre-
viously submitted to the judge upon the jury, and after
the putting io of the report of the proceedings at Guildhall,
which were admitted to be correct,
Mr. Hawkios replied upon the whole case.
Mr. Justice Myles, in summing up, said that the iouendo
in the declaration was that the libel meaot that the occu-
pants of 151, Cheapeide, were suspected of having allowed
the use of that house as an address for the purposes in the
libel mentioned, and that it was necessary for the plaintiff to
do something not dated in the libel to clear herself of that
suspicion. If such were in fact the meaning, then un-
doubtedly the article was a libel, for a libel was anything in
wilting which tended to bring a person into hatred, con-
tempt, or ridicule ; but the question for the jury was,
whether this was the true meaning.
The jury, after considering the matter for two boars,
found a verdict for the plaintiff—damages 40s.

COURT OF BANKRUPTCY.—Jmoi 16.
(Mom W. Oommisamir Goultbum)
IN ILE COLOSZL WAUGH.

This wanes adjourned dividend sitting. The bankrupt is
the well-known William Petrie Waugh, who wan road*
bankrupt in 1836, while abroad, and who has sine* been
allowed to surrender, and has obtained his release from
custody. The debts already proved an about 50,C.30/.,
sod thin are asseta in band of 7,800/.
Mr. Bagley appeared in rapport of a proof tendered by the
official managers of the London and Eastern Banking °cepa-
ration (now winding-up) for no lees a sum than 239,C301.,
being the amount alleged to be due from the bankrupt for
calls and on balance of account.

Hie Honour, 11;f;Iiiiiii;ii;prooerdiugs, mid it appeared
that the proof had been brought before the late Mr. Com.
masiouer Evans, sad by him rejected, except se far as related
to a sum of 14,5004 As the matter had been already adju.
dicsted upon by • commissioner, be did sot think that he
could now entertain the application.
Mr. Bagley said it was an entirely different proof which
he DOW 1:0010t to MlbMit. Besides, the matter bad only been
put before Mr. Cominisconer Evans as • claim, and allowed
by him as • claim to a certain amount.
Hit Honour said he had been total by Mr. Evans himself
that the claim bad been tendered as • proof, and cm such
rejected by him. As it was only entered on the proceedings
as • claim, be presumed he moat allow the case to be again
discussed. It was very unjust to the other creditors that
parties should beallowed, instead of going to the appellate
jurisdiction, to come 1141114 to this court, after • lapse of five
or sic years. and seek to get • decision reversed.
Mr. Harlitt, the registrar, pointed out as order on the
tugs directing that the claim of the Leaden and
proceedings directing that lb. claim of lbs Loodo and
Esatesn Bank should be investigated by Mr. Tutquand, ac-
countant ; but it did not appear that any report had been
made by Mr. Truguand.
Mr. Bagley said that would not affect the cl•imante, as
they bad sot consented to the reference to Mr. Turqnand.
Two proofs were now tendered on behalf of Mr. Stuart and
Mr. Ball, the otficsal managers of the bank—ose for 239,5.561.
Ida. 10d., the other for 36.2501. is respect of calls on 290
shares, in all 275,8064 18s. 10s.
Mr. H. Unklater, for the assignees, said he had en-
deavoured to agree with Mr. Munn' as to the
amount, but before doing that he felt that they
most have something on the proceedings on oath. He was
told by the bankrupt that credit ought to have been given
him for 91,011:01., as would appear from the books of the
bank, in respect of Agra Bask shares and other property
deposited with the Loodou and Eastern Bank ; also that he
had been debited with 230 shares which in reality belonged
to Major Loogworth. He also complained that be bad
given the bank security on the Bracksea Island property,
and that it was owing to their own lathes it had not been
realised. Under those circumstances it wu desirable that
the matter should be adjourned for investigation, and they
might then agree on some amount which should be proved.
Mr. Bagley said that Branksea Island had been
before the bank bad anything to do with it. It wtiorlgbil
the first mortgagee, and had sot realised the amount of the
mortgage. He war told that the assignees had already had
ample time for investigating the proof, end they had not
succeeded in reducing it by one shilling; they merely rug.
gaited some possible set-offs or =eolith He must oppose
the adjournment.
His Honour said be was bound on every principle to grant
the adjournment. There had been so affidavit on the file
until this day, sod the assignees were properly wished to in.
vestigate the claim. Here was a proof submitted for up-
wards of a quarter of • tuillion, and not to give time for its
investigation would be monstrous.
Mr. Serviced, in reference to the seemed proof for 36,2504,
stated that Colonel Waugh disputed it all bat about 7,0001.
Ultimately the consideratiou of both proofs was ad.
Joni oed, his Honour suggesting the desirability of so agree.
meat as to the amount.