The Express.
London, England, 1862-03-15 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, MARCH 15, 1862.

sat C. W( II ili rid the Lou. gentleman must see that it better than endeavour to carry out the simple, and easy,
was iniposeible ti Answer the question ; and with regard to and able sensations contained iu the valuable report to
spotter, of which the hoe. baronet had gives same, he which retereeee had been made, and which he belted his
would pi-lmo the correspoodenee when it wee concluded. hon. friend weed not press for until it could be laid on the
lb.,' corie.p.oidelee would alone give • complete anse‘r to table with the sanction of those for whose benefit and
the has. gentleman's inquiry. with wham madam it had been prepared. (Cheers.)
RUMOURED CESSION OF ITALIAN TERRITORY Yr. FREELAND mild, under these earaumetances be
would withdraw his 1110i100.
TO FRANCE.
Mr. D. GRIFFITH asked the Under Secretary of State 1 CONSOLIDATION OF THE STATUTES.
for Foreign Affairs whether the Secretary of State for' Sir F. KELLY called attention, in • speech of some
Fore* Affairs would eoileavour to simulate that there was length, to the consolidation of the statutes, and asked the
no iotoutiou on the port of the new Indar ministry of Attorney-General whether it was the intention of the gie
eutertamiog any question of the cession of any territory vernment to proceed with the consolidation bills prepared
now behaves to the Italian kingdom to France, under any under the direction of the late Statute Law Commission.,,
protease or reanimation whatever ; air moved an address the passing of which, he said, would, by the processes
f• 4 copy of any communications relating to that subject expurgation and consolidation, reduce prodigiously the bulk
which might have takso place with the late I Wien govero meat. . of the statute-book.
Mr. LAY ARS said this was • very important question. I Mr. LOCKE thought it extraordinary that the 90 bills
His boo. friend had • perfect right to bring it before the , ekeelb prePered should have been aliened to lie in atreY'
house, and he felt much obliged to him for the courteous suesir soil this mine of wealth in the shape of consolidation
way in which he had done so. He trusted that the house be resealD entirely useless.
The ATTORNEY.OkiNERAL, after stating the course
also felt grateful to his hon. friend fur the vigilance which
he exercised over their public relations— (hear. hear)—bet la this matter which the present government had adopted,
be hoped his lion. friend did not think it necessary that he explaining the peculiar difficulties to the way of expurp-
'bomb! follow him in the somewhat discursive speech which tioa, and the progress made, said
not in a condition,
that the bulk of the hal
be had male is travelling from the land's end of Italy to referred te, and the bills generally, were
revision, to be laid before parliament. It
Turin. This question was vary fully discuseed last year;
arid after the ample statement made by his noble fniesd.the
government,fWsswilb°noutt,..theiristore,
..the intention
Lof
work
at
who then represented the Foreign Department in that present, to take up those tiil The expurgation
hoar, be thought it could not be necessary, sod indeed we., however, going ors as satisfactorily as possible.
would warmly be becoming in bins todwell upon it at length. RELIGIOUS PERSECUTION LN SPAIN.
Lord Rand stated en the commies to which he elided Mr. xpigAgym said the First ugdee the Treasury,
that he had received the most distinct nernrearie freer le Warms to what took place last session on the subject
Baron Ricesoli that not an inch of Dallas peed meld d the penneatiose in Spain, end the efforts which were
he added to France. The noble lord also expressed the eadereteed to 'mahout to be made by bar Majesty's &ire-
that it was 0" the intention of the &defer a tory d State for Foreign Affairs in order to obtain ramie-
rilTroch to ask for the cession of the dad of doe of dial/mat for !demotes and others, who were
lbeiliki, and be (Mr. lanyard) would fain hope that that undergoing imprisonment, and were now under sentence of
Idabel was well founded. Her Majesty's govereireall the galleys., on the charge of maintaining certain religious
tallnlied the assurance of Baron Ricasoli, not as • Pensmal opinions and practices contrary to the religion of the state,
smarm from hint. but as an memories which he was whether he had any objection to dam to the house if any,
tratheded te mike by the King of ltaly and the Italian and what, steps bad been taken in reference to that
gemnional. He (Mr. lanyard) should take it as an affront it ; and whether her Majesty's minister at
M the ef Idly, and as an affront to the great Italian Madrid had been able to obtain any satisfactory as-
sails% is donM ter one moment that loyal assurance, Rod mess that • favourable consideration would be
be eke thought that it would sot be becoming to imply a given to his representations on the subject ?
doubt et the sincerity of that assurance, by asking that it The hon. gentleman said that the subject had been brought
pupa be renewed. net had accepted that wentrence oo before the house lam session by the right hon. baronet the
the ert of the King of Italy, and placed full reliance Chief Secretary for Behind, and though he was sure the
9sE his Maiesity's good faith. (Hear. hear.) He did Dan right hon. baronet bad not changed his opinions. yet lass-
Sandi it nemweety to OW .BUPIUDS more. He could ask much es he could not be expected to take up this subject
ester into any grimmest atm to hon. friend with mood to in the vigorousway be bad formerly done, be ventured to
the conduct of Comt Gamut. His boa. freed bad mr- pt the inquiry to the noble viscount at the bead of the
reedy represented what he said co that subject last year. derrerneweit.
What be than stated he believed to be true ; and be Lord PALMERSTON--Sir, I admit that my hon. friend
treated that what had happened would never happen effetn.. , has performed • duty of which nobody can complain in
lie hogged to sal further that the government were u"1" laden this matter under the attention of the house. There
to give the papme which had been moved for, and be hoped sb• ao doubt that the expression of opinion in the
his hon. fried would not peer his motion. It would mot Thritiolt House of Commons must have great weight with
be eanvesient to the publics service for those papers to be glom, of whatever country of Europe, to whose conduct
laid on the table. that opinion applies. (Hear, hear.) lam sorry to say that
Mr. GRIFFITH wished to know whether he was to us- I eased make a report to my hon. friend and the house as
&retard that there were no papers, or that there were to any satisfactory result which has yet followed any st-
overs, bat his bon. friend declined to produce them. tempt or exertions of her Majesty's government to obtain
Mr. LAYARD said of course if there were no papers he tam edess mid freedom of tint Potions of wham he has
could not decline to produce them. (lAughter.) apeduna. The difficulties, as he must be awme, are vary
ped The Spanish nation Stull of high, noble, and chival-
REFORMS IN TURKEY. rem faddy and sentiments—(a laugh)—but unfortunately
Mr. FREELAND ram in pursuance of notice, to call is Spain the catholic priesthood exercise a sway greater thee
attention to the pipers presented in Ifid relating to reforms that which they possess in any other catholic country. And
in Turkey, sad to dee mission of Lord Hobart and Mr. however liberal, I believe I may, fairly say, the catholic
Fatter to Corlaeffeees ; and to move au address for copy laity are in most catholic countries, history tells us that
of their report es the Moore of Terkel., sad et my mere. wherever the Priesthood have •gained • Predominance, there
spender* that may have taken place hetwersa the grim. the utmost amount of intolerance ie invariably the practice.
mode al ham and Inland relative to their minima (Cheers.) In countries where they form • minority, they
ARM* who reed the communications reseived frees **Meetly demand not only tolerattoo, but equolity ; but
day to day from the East must feel that g in countries where they predominate, they allow neither
was of the Mood Importance that the polley toleration nor equality. (Cheers.) The one in this inetsoce
of Frame and Megiaarl should be err Idea,. bears upon the law, as it is called, and dose not tig=l on
The policy of Tres was, be rejoiced to say, identical with the will or action of the Spanish goverment.
that al leglard. limy yeen.ago that policy was pronounced ancient laws of • most intolerant and pementicig kiad, which
by M. Glad le he he maintain
the balance of power In havebrocalledin actionby ministersof theChristiastreligtoo.
Europe,asd 0011101111118 at moire:tele, it, to uphold the Otto. Their action has been the condemnation of these unhappy
man empire in its iategrity. He (Mr. Premised) believed men to • punishment which must in its nature be revolting
that France wield loyally parer a policy of co-operation to the mind of any liberal person. (Cheers.) Efforts have
with England, end would act le the present day attempt to been made to obtain from the ministries el the crown of
undo in Syria and Egypt that which she has done in Coo- Spam their advice to obtain from the mererelgo that exer-
stautinople. He trusted that thetwogovemmente would tell else of memy which below to the sovereign of every
the Turks frankly and plainly that the hour for the intro. country. Those efforts have not yet boon encomefill•
duction of general and financial reform had come. Turkey Mixed up with the admirable qualities which distinguish
has sow on the throne a yon m& sagacious, and energetic the Spanish people there is the quality—a quality not un-
sovereign, She has at the head of her divas aa able and deserving of respect—of • feedsg of jealousy of say foreign
enlightened minister. There were no doubt, oddities is interference in their internal affair —a quality whith u
the weir el miens, but they were not such as could not be imeseted with some of the highest Mimed virtues ; and
eiveneeme. did set want a anaemia of Mover therefore it is obvious that in any endeareur to obtain •
thee, per roMiibmk per wars waged—like the Crimea revise', or • mitigation, or • ceenttion oifmniehment. great
mr—at • Mile grimeel Hie and wealth. ne wants 1 del:l2 and ears must be exercised lest in endeavouring to
that strength wide lir ends bee Own reach—wise law de we should, en the contrary, do something to per-
m& Ministered, *ids= edam firmly carried eat-- meanie the evil. (Hear.) Ices assure my hon. Meted that
thee elemagth which eadderl ato threw them. effort will be omitted by her Majesty's government which
eirree upon the ef a waLl.govereed people. they think would be really conducive to the attainment of
lisifire2ntri I thwetiogrerindien el the papers to which he the object he has to view. (Hear.)
W aseedead the progress of reform in Mr. BLAKE bad been informed on authority epos
Today, he begged to mere the presentation of the humble which he could rely that many of the partite re
-
adder of whieli he bad given notice. (Hear, hear.) fend to by the on. member for Perth bad sot
wry em proteetantism, but had also taken the °ppm. '
Mr. L &YARD said he rejoiced to find there was one hon. =of making themselves exceedingly obuormis to the
member in the house who took eo deep an interest in the io people of the country. It was strongly esspected
Trickish question, and certainly the bon. gentleman who that some of th bad been bribed. and had received mosey
bad just &claimed them was as well erred re any ...... romemawawdote to gadead to their rah_
merailmr of the house to refer to a subject '''.--ia ri...i. The hon. Male by
W which be bed Paid ee much "twit"' Mc &Promo .Q--befeee any further dissuasion tookthe .=
entirely agreed with him that the lateral sad s worm," meow lay the eorreeyosamee ea tags.
E•a•b!io4 of the Turkish empire were intimately cosuected fin widAmisy 44 ootwithmewdieg what bad mks
614 mixed sp with that of this country. He believed that from the M. ember who had pi* spoken, no evidence
the Indthenedie ei Turkey as • powerful, pros
hedepaadad mod was a win policy to pore•de:- --ar'ear could be more medneive than that which bad been adduced
' to prove Mt Matamoros maids companions had been
Ism) It wee • policy which had even been advocated by Wry and entirely on the ground. dated by the
the ruble lord at the head of her Majesty"s government, and aseds•Lstier for Perth.
he belbred it woe • policy which should be always advt.- &or' puti, w.: :
Lanett to my am word in justice to his
mated by the government el this country. He
equally agreed with th view Eis hon. friend had hoe. fried the member for Penh. He was much obliged
to Iris boo. friend for the temperate manner in which he
trim with regard to a redid andentanding with bed brought forward this subject ; and he thought the re-
France. While this country and France cordially uodetetood ply of his noble friend (Lord Palmerston) must have con-
each other there was little to fear for the maintenance of the viand him that the
irovernment were doing all in
Turkish empire. A very important matter to which their power, .. they lid last year, to relieve_ if ~.w.
he desired to refer was the treaty of ommerce with eihki ie saieciap: 01 these moor met, in' Spain.l
this country. Mew. bear.) ~..._Previu" to itt.,.....heielf.,_ (Hear, bear.) He thought lire- - -honoursble friend
adored into expects from smite, were stirecv se the member, for Waterford (Mr. Blake) was in error in p-
a duty of twelve pee cent. That had been reduced to eight . that these
resins had h. in
aiiicay atiaLlad
per cent., sad would be annually reduced one per rat. Cslntiem tratmertioim That had been distinctly amid.
Isla it ears down to one per cent., at which it would re
Ma axed for all imports. Imports into Turkey would e.et,nr'dorthewrielrtmlespowmodasy; betlle hetteewuwithieresaesetwommowte the
may a somssovesside" 8 spuilirbssat's ehinorn, ad country
im ettairys more ;DTA that the prior who were imprisoned- in Metro
Thaw I.
wweeerea, He believed that the treaty would were in no way implicated in the traneactions which or
aided during the autumn of last year. (Hear, hear.)
move a moues el advantage not only to Turkey, but ahe '
Mr. HENNESSY could not help calling the attentioe if
to this ccww*7* (Hear. 'war') A temporaryY Ice. cd the pveremeet to the inconvenient position i' which the
moms bad beta crannied by the recent chsoges, but la ken was sow placed. A most important ;Mlles bid
seder to make up for it the Turkish government bad been died, and two members of her Majesty's gemmed
Inc" iscrwPclial al tobacco sad silt' from which which bed spokes, neither of whom bed ted he Aspen.
accepted t
au=evetibyuth.e wesulut.ld
wash
hey
Anaotthheer i . . n
barre f on'' gives them by the hon. member for Waterford, to pecdeue
mail el the ministers, by which they bad power toar the correspondence which had prod between the two go-
rumors ors this question. He joined his hoe. fried in
Mae for the liabilities of their several departments with- the hope that those rapiers would be produceu.'
ad any redridisa whatever. Thos then was no males of The subject then -dropped.
emetededgeseendely the stated the imam New • THE
Imes ndedeter was appoisted, die had the Me antral POSTAL PACKET SERVICE.
ewer the
be of the country. (Hear, bear.) He (Mr. Thelma went into committee of supply.
Ward) hail hen asked about me or three other redeems ; The vote ei iiiiNti. for the Picket semis aes agreed to,
end Mt ari In the mike. lip to the present the of
and the hew" mute".
had set hem .....i to ..e extent that weld he amt. REPORT OF SUPPLY.—THE SANDHURST VOTE.
Hat it Mudd he hem in mind that there 'were great UP"' the Wiliest up cd the rePortiof the committee ed
digliculties in the way. The police, he was sorry to ry, enfid7. •
ware required, not for Turks, but for Chnstians end r. CONINGHAM objected very warmly to the Suit
gemwen. Quer foimpt the igehemedeee woe ma, dust College vote, coesidaring it detrimotal to the public 1
se mew et ewe time it was so much so that a ehrip. service, he said, that a kind of Ilona Guards preserve should '
lewpm wield ad think al petting • luck on hie he established at
It was by chriettewe mg keerdeeni that mom op the
O.
After soma rerearketit J. Shelley, Colonel North, Sir
edam ef hakes emeritted. and the realm was tr..ioniei end_ ,
__Mr. Artons .the vote was agreed to.
that mil newer emehed as dilated control over ~.
_rtehort au""" took Pa" upon the other Teal, 110,1
their we subjects, and did sot allow the Turks to inter ins entire "Mt was ultimately agreed to.
fad England was amongst the first so give up that claim, CONSOLIDATED FUND BILL.
sad there was now a very efficient jurisdiction is Coestanti- This bill (18,000,00014 was read • third time and passed.
Boyd by means of which law was enforced with our seed TRANSFER OF STOCKS (IRELAND) BILL.
team Ceder these circumstances he hoped that This hill was read a third time and good.
a better system of police would soon be canted CROWN SUITS (ISLE OF MAN) BILL.
est M Turkey. With reference to the Ade. Thge hill was reed e third time Leg weed.
ekes of Christians to give evidence, that was • vary
important matter, but be thought that in the considers- COURTS OF JUSTICE (MONEY) BILL.
ties of it we did sot alwaysr,
act fairly towards Turkey. Mr. COW PER, in moving for leave to bring Is • bill to
supply moos towards defroyieg the exposer of providing
th Allowasce was sot made for the immense difficulties oliteh
the
way of these reforms. We know hoar many courts of justice and of belonging to the same, dwelt
stood in
v the insufficiency of the accommodation for the courts,
ears y—he mi;ht say centuries—it had token to introduce , .
reform' in this country, more esperially those , w n some cases in
h i • torfered with the p reservation of
rtridsach raj •on was roecerted, sod who. the , order and deourum. The matter ler been carefully oonsidered
Torii. were asked to put Christians rst the sea. loot. ;by • royal
. commission, which bed strongly recommended
tration of the courts, and had unheeded a con-
ing with Mahornedans it should be borne in mid I a 86- D'e.
slant site. Foods, fortunately, be observed, existed
that the 'Turks had been taught to look down to the amount of 1,4110,0001., that would be available to
upon the Christie 's@ as ea antagonistic element amongst ,
them. (Hear, hear.) It was not, therefore, surprising that ' meet,__the.„cbsrge. srLdss_,tmet, the the bands the Court
they objected to raise Christians to the rine portion surplus "' ussPPrennet" rem, In te° new" tn.
Of Chancery, which would leave only • comparatively small
on they occupied themselves. He believed et the same time ,
am to be provided for by the Exchequer.
that it would be the best policy for Turkey to do this. 1 s
Objections were ctfered by Mr. Lye.= and Sir H. Wil.
(Hear, hear.) It would lie true policy by which the Chris• loughbv, which were answered by Mr. Crawford and the
tail pop co population would be nciliated, whereas by excluding .
Chancellor of the Exchequer
them from the rights and privileges esjnyed by the Turks, Leave was gives to bring in the bill.
the Turkish government would hareem antagouietic popula-
tion within their owe limits- He had 00 &plot that the en- ECCLESIASTICAL COMMISSION.
lightened own at the head of affairs would take the name Mr. H. SEYMOUR moved to nominate the select oat-
".., sod that the time would oomo when the elated... =Motion the Ecclesiastical COMIDiIsiOD:—Ms. H. Seymour,
and Turkish subjects of the Sultan would be placed as the XL Cardwell. Mr. Lowe, Mr. E. HeYdell Boum* Sir J.
same footing. Tine, however, should be given to the Pthingtos, Mr. Walpole, Mr. Deeds', Mr. Selwyn, Mr. L.
Mag. Mr. Fenwick, Mr. Alderman Copeland, Mr. Newdir
Turkish government. (Hear, bear.) Unfortunately, Tier.
key had had a fair charm°. Internal peace and Mr Os, Mr. Kiunaird, Mr. Freeland, and Mr. Tite.
quillity was repaired for the introduction of great aad On the fret name, however,
froportant reforms. (Hear, bear.) He word not Mr. LYOON divided the house, and there were—
then enter into the memos why Turkey had not Ayes
bad that internal peace and tourquillity. Elements Noes
bad been momently at work, whether intended to disturb' ' The total number of members present, deluding Mr.
the property of the Turks he did'not pretend to fty. the . Speaker and the tellers, beim thus only 31,
asserted that those elements to which he alluded had pre- The home was in effect counted out at 20 minutia to 12.
vented internal tranquillity in that country. It
was unreasonable to expect the Turkish goers.
rent to go at great speed in the work of reform BELE-IN•IXIIICI EY • BOY.-...A lad, living near
They should get time • bet such was his confiders ftkore-bell, who appears to have taken • fill*
to tWo character of the 'Sultan that be believed he would te reek, driberatety de head ea the rails of the
014110011241 all the diffioultiee which lay in his way, and they Mli mid lips when • goods nods was se-
... of prosperity was ia store for the country which he peeding. The bead was fearfully crashed, and Mr. Ward,
genie.
He (Mr. Layard) had sever changed his *doe. eargeem fond it samemyheipezatette it. The led mot
rept l
petted what he said when he was lint returned to that mooed • isimob iietriatibei or mimed the bed
' house, namely, that be bad great hopes for Turkey. Re degree el sedietimp He both omFinfed in a_nellik
did not attempt to justify the mismanagenunit which had Imo* *eel Awe, sod had Prewhontalregoented MIM
be S' On
existed, but be believed there was • fundamental honesty in to met his bead with his hemmer, he might die-
the people. They paid theirdividede to the day. Thermo died gat week, The lad dieeline4 sad as it &ppm be
war in erred: arm eepudiated. They were strictly Meet, bed reseed wpm bevielLtt. done somehow.be to
Wsad bed shows tbsaushres savers of the vetne of 'ebbs abide 1110111/ ill IWPIWIWIW hit 014114.—dihtillid rads-
assaiL Tbe Todd& gemeament could sot betimoreglit de pearled