The Express.
London, England, 1863-07-15 00:00:00

TALLOW MARKET -(THIS DAY.)

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The market us steady. Toes tallow quoted Vie. ;
Petersburg Y.O. on the apt, 4Y.. ; July, 42.. ; .tuzust
to Septeuxbet, 424. Gd. ; October to Decewber, 455.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS.—TeESDAY, JULY 14.
I..iwcul.vek.LLog took his seat on the woolsack at
Stu o'clock.

PETITION.
f. ml li izoro HAM presented a petition from the Church
limo Society, iseupLeniug of the present mode of electing
bidele), and praying that they might in future be elected by
the dean and chapter, the clergy generally, and the laity.
THE lONIAN ISLANDS.
Lord IsTRATfORD de It Elle'Ll FFE gave notice of his
inter tine on Tuesday neat to call attention to the cession of
the lou iau Islands to Greece, and to MGVO for the produc-
tive of certain papers.
.1 A PAN.
Earl ()REY mid that siuce the recent debate on their
reiltions with Japan he bad received a letter from Mr.
the gentlemen who was accused of shooting • pelica-
n) ,n. enclormig a pamphlet and statement, which if true
nut e-ely exculpate,' dim from the charge, and showed that
he had been greatly ill-used. He (Earl Grey) had made
the statement on the authority of the work of Sir It.
Alcor*, and he wee not aware that it had ever been con-
trameted. Mr. Moss stated that he had been attacked by a
body of armed men. and that the gun west off by accident
after it bad left his hand. He also complained of a denial
of tastier on the part of Sir R. Alcock.
a el I( USSELL raid that Mr. Moss had complained that
.Z. -11 cock win too favourable to the Japanese.
PRIVATE BILLS.
On the motion of Lord REDESDALE the Ely Valley ex-
tension Railway and the Brecon Junction Railway Bills
w. re read a third time and passed.
SAVINGS BANKS ACT AMENDMENT BILL
flu the motion of Lord TAUNTON this bill was read •
second time.

PRISON MINISTERS BILL.
The Commons' amendments to the Lords' amendments
on this bill were considered and agreed to, with the
exception of the atnendment on clause 3, on which
Lord Itridonsts moved an amendment to the effect that
Mona!) catholic chaplains should be subject to the rules of
the gaol as laid down by the justices. The amendment was!
agreed to.
SHEEP AND CATTLE (SCOTLAND) BILL.
Certain atnendnienta to this bill were agreed to, and the
WI was read a third time and paned.
STII'ENDIARY MAGISTRATES BILL.
On the motion of the Marquis of CLANRICARDX., thin bill
w 31 read a second time.
REMOVAL OF IRISH POOR BILL.
This Lill passed through committee.
GROWING CROPS SEIZURE (IRELAND) BILL

This bill was read a second time.
CLERGYMEN (COLONIES) BILL.
This bill was read a second time.

HOUSE OF COMMONS--Timsnar, JtLY 14. I ARMY rßizz PROPERTY.
At a mot iiing sitting, Colonel NORTH rose to move that au bumble madras' be !
The Fortifications, Provision for Expenses, Bill was re. 1 presented to her RePety. Preying that she will be graciously
pleased to issue a royal commission to taquiro into the reah-
committed, and a clause added founded on the reeoluth n
zatiou of army prize property and its mode of diabibution,
nrovithog for Ps meet of expanses to the Bank of England
, and to inquire into the cause of the extraordinary delays
in connexion with the loan. I which have, in most cases, occurred in its distribution to
On the order for going into committee on the Union Re. •
, theca ptors with a view to a remedy for the imea,
lief Aid Arta Continuance Bill,
Mr. CHILDERS moved a resolution to the effect that it : ,Lo..roilffic.PAr LanMaERtIST. OhNio,seM ii,tate...to,tke h0n....50d gal-
ouse that oar us•iesty's goveinment
was desirable that soy monies raised under the bill by way . i"`
made.had n objection whatever to urge against the motion he had
of loan on the security of the rates in the distressed menu.
(Cheers.) In fact he was quite of the same opinion
factoring districts should be applicable to assist emigration
I with him, that an ioquiry io to the matter might be attend eil by
to such colonies as might be willing to co-operate iu carry-
-1 advantageous results both to the army and Derv. He would,
ins it out. I however, suggest to him that he should leave out of his
The 'notion was 'seconded by Mr. Marsh and supported by
i motion the word "extraordinary," because he was afraid it
Mr. Feriand owl Mr. Bagwell
• Mr. HI ft BERT thought that emigration should be carried ; did not represent the truth of the fact...
Sir S. NORTHCOTE congratulated the hon. and gallant
on is the ordinary way, and not stimulated by the resolu•
officer on the success which bad attended his motion, but
tics of the home. he would have been glad if be had carried the terms of the
Mr. A DDF.RLEY recommended that the motion should address a little further ; and as the noble lord was about to
be witidrawo and • clause moved in committee. recommend the issue of a royal commirion, he would sug-
Mr. VILLIERS said there was no proof that the colonies
gest to him whether it might not be possible for that com-
would be favourable to such a scheme of emigration as was
mission to investigate some other grievances which had not
proposed. Emigration was already going on upon an ex-
been touched upon.
tended scale front Lancashire, and on the whole be thought
The motion of Colonel North as amended was then
the course now suggested was contrary to good policy ; and weed,.
he hoped it would not be sanctioned by the house
Mr. HENLEY expressed himself favourable to the appli- THE DUTY CHARGEABLE UPON FIRE
cation of soma portion of the money raised under the bill INSURANCES.
to the purposes of emigration. Mr. H. SHERIDAN moved a resolution that the duty
The disco...lino was continued by Mr. Cobden, Sir B. now chargeable upon firs insurances is excessive in amount
Leighton, and the Chancellor of the Exchequer, and even- —that it prevents insurance, and should be reduced at the
tunlly the motion was withdrawn, and the bill passed earliest opportunity. Having explained the reasons which
through committee. had preveuted this question being brought forward earlier
The house resumed at 6 o'clock, in the session, he stated the grounds upon which he sup-
ported his resolution, and the reduction of duty he proposed
THE FACTORY ACTS.—BURSTING OF BOILERS. —namely, that the present rate of 3a. per cent should be
Mr. FERRA ND said that on Thursday next he would reduced Is. per cent.,
_and at the end of five years another le.
sak the Secretary of State for the Home Department per cent. The immediate loss of revenue, be contended,
whether he intended to introduce any legislative measure would be more than made up by the increase of insurances,
for the purpose of placing children employed in potteries while the reduction would be a benefit to the country. He
and paper tube factories under the protection of the Factory showed, in the course of his argument, the vast amount of
Acts, and whether his attention had been drawn to the property that might be brought within the area of iteur•
destruction of human life by the bursting of steam boilers, once, criticising, in considerable detail, the positions laid
and if to, whether he did not think that boilers ought to be down in the work of air. Code, upon whom, he observed,
placed under the government inspectort the government relied, bat whose authority upon this goes-
PUBLIC EKECUTIONS. Lion he impugned, preferring the evidence of practical men ;
and be cited the testimony of well-known writers and public
Mr. !HEBERT said that in consequence of the illness of bodies to the soundness of his own views.
Sir George Grey he would now give notice that he would Mr. HUBBA.RD, assuming from the manner in which
early next session call attention to the demoralisation Mr. Coode's work had been circulated, that its arguments
caused by public executions, and sak whether au ahem• and facts were adopted by the Chancellor of the Exchequer,
Lon of the law was not possible, minutely examined some of the conclusions of the writer,
INSTRUCTIONS TO N AVAL OFFICERS ON FOREIGN exposing what he considered to be his fallscies and false
STATIONS. views regarding not only the theory of insurance, but the
Lord NAAS asked the Secretary to. the Admiral who- I general principles of taxation, and his arithmetical errors.

tbsr orders would be issued to 'lava' officers on foreign
stations forbidding them to attack the ports or ships of
friendly powers without • declaration of war or distinct in-
strustions from the home government ; and said he asked

HARWICH HARBOUR BILL.
This bill was read a second time.
HOWTH HARBOUR BILL.
This bill was read a second time.
MARRIAGES REGISTRATION (IRELAND) BILL.
This bill palmed through committee.
SIR ROBERT HITCHAM'S CHARITY BILL
This bill was read a thinl time and paned.
RUTHIN CHARITIES BILL.
This bill was read a third time and passed.
COLONIAL ACTS CONFIRMATION BILL.
This bill was reed a second time.
THE MARGARET AND JESSIE.
The Earl of AIRLIE asked the Secretary for Foreign
Affairs whether he had received any official report of the
attack %hick wee alleged to have been made by a ship of war
of the Ctited States no the ship Margaret and Jessie in
British waters?
Earl RUSSELL s►id the American Secretary of State,
buts; seen the matter mentioned in the New York
papers, immediately assured Lord Lyons that the captain
of the Rhode Island gave a totally different account of the
matter. It was impossible for her Majesty's government
at present to do more than make further inquiries ; and
no doubt if it tamed out that the American officer bad
been iu the wrong, the government of the United Stater,
in accordance with the voluntary promise of Mr. Seward,
would make ample reparation.
BRAZIL.

ie supoiwted the resolution.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he would
give a slight outline of the facts. In 1tt.58 the then govern-
ment—he thought unfortunately—acceded to • geuend reso-
' -• .

the question in consequence of the discussion which took
place the other evening in reference to the conduct of our
officers at Tringann.
Lail C. PAC:ET said he had to state that the instructions
given to our navel officers generally were to the effect that
they were not to engage in hostilities or have recourse to
violence without the sanction of their superior officers. And
the officers at Tringann bad received positive instructions
not to engage in any hostilities without the sanction of the
Secretary of India or of the governor of Bombay—(hear,
hear)— except in those cases where the liven and property of
British subjects were threatened.
THE SANITARY CONDITION OF THE ARMY IN
INDIA.
Mr. CONINGHAM asked the First Lord of the Treasury
whether it wie the intention of her Majesty's government
to act upon the recommendations of the commissioners ap-
pointed to inquire into the sanitary condition of the army
is India, and at once to introduce remedial measure,' fur
the prevention of disease in hot or unhealthy climates, so
as promptly to check the mortality by which. " besides
deaths from natural reams, sixty head per thousand of our
troops annually perish io India."
Sir C. WOOD was glad to inform the hon. gentleman
that the attention of the government had been directed to
the subject. Since the report of the commissioners was
presented several improvements had taken place, and still
more effective measures would be taken for the purpose of
carrying inth operation the recommendations,,of the corn-
, =smilers.

lution condemnatory of the piper duty. In 1860 the go-
vernment in office bad to consider whether it should pro-
pose to repeal the paper duty or the tea duty. They
determined to propose a repeal of the paper duty, and a
material element guiding them to that determination was
the fact that there had been recorded a condemnation of
the paper duty; but they afterwards found that one-half
of the house was indisposed to attach any weight to that
abstract question. (Hear, hear.) He was not going to say
who was right and who was wrong, bat he moat say it was
another proof of the danger of these ambiguous resolu-
tions. (Hear' hear.) The suitable time to propose the re-
peal
of a tax was when the financial plans of the government
were before the house, and than that tax might be placed
against the tax which the government thought ought to be
repealed. That was done in 1861, when the government
proposed the repeal of the paper duty. The opposition
thought that the tea duty ought to be repealed instead, ard
fought their battle well, but the government, fighting still
better, carried the repeal of the paper duty by a majority
of 12 or 15. It was very rosy to condemn tax by tax, but
the proper way of proceeding in matters of taxation was to
consider the various claims for deduction together. Nothing
was more easy than to propose abstract resolutions on the
income tax, the sugar duties, or the tax on conveyances, or
on a multitude of other eubjecta, hut the house ought to re-
ceive them with caution and circumspection. There could
be no doubt that they ought to part with this tom if
they could, but if they could meant something relative
and comparative, and they were not in a condition to judge
liar tax - it
-

Lord CHELMSFORD called the attention 'of the house
to the memorandum regarding amassment of compensation THE CHANNEL FLEET IN LOUGH FOYLE.
in the cam of the Prince of Wales, which had been laid Sir H. BRUCE asked the Secretary to the Admiralty
capon the table : and asked the Secretary of State for whether their lordships would permit the Channel fleet to
Foreign Affairs to inform the house upon what grounds the anchor for a few days in Lough Foyle during their cruise
Queen's Advocate founded his estimate of the sum of this summer.
as the amount of compeosation which ought to be Lord C. PAGET said that the magnificent Channel
paid fur the cargo after making allowance for probable and equedron, as he might justly call it, which was composed of
necessary damage,. what wasthe nature and description five armour-plated shim sots now making progress around
dthe cantosad its invoiced sale° and if the owner had I the north comet of Scotland, and it would touch under the
remised anything from the underwriters in respect of its I discretionary orders of the admiral at the principal ports,
lees • also, re what manner'the Queen's Advocatehad ewer' I weather permitting. No doubt the fleet would visit the
Wad that the lam of wages and effects ought to be esti- i "ecipal porta, and perhaps that port in which the hoc.
mated at 2901. and the compensation for " pasible murders" I rootlet felt interested would receive a visit from the
at 8401. squadron. (Laughter.))
Earl RUSSELL said the noble and learned lord found
great fault for demanding compensation for possible THE COMMON LAW COMMISSION REPORT, dm
murders. It was quite true that Mr. Christie made Mr. LONGFIELD asked when the report of the Chee-
p,' demand oa this ground at fug, but when eery and Common Law Commissioners for England and
the &ionise government refused the meths of laves.' Ireland would be presented to the house, and also when the
*Mks the conclusion come to was that the crew returns ordered in reference to the Lauded Registry Court
had bees murdered. The words used in one of the de- would be laid ou the table,
apatee were 'a the too probable murder of some of our I The ATTORNEY-GENERAL said that the report had
net," which was much stronger than the possibility Of been agreed to, and would be presented at the end of next
their being murdered. Ho belief was that the greater part' week, and that the return of the Registry Court would be
at the crew were murdered, (Hear, bear.) And that was km on the mhieto.morrop.
the prevalent °plains of the people in that part of the
country. (Heir, bear.) But the Brazilian government EAST INDIA.
allowed no inquest to be held they did not Mr. A. MILLS thou rose to call the attentio. of the house
allow the bodies to he shown. If the bodies were shown, •to the constitution of the Council of the Secretary
and it appeared that their throats were cat, would it be of State for India, and to move an address to the
said that no ommenastion should Meade? The noble and crown for the appointment of &royal commission to inquire
learned lord looked up, a this demand for encopensatiou on and report whether any and what alterations might be
the part of the families as extraordinary. But he remold advantageously adopted in the home government of India
tested a cam where compensation was given without even *constituted by the act 21 and 22 Viet., c. 106.
being asked for—namely, in the sue of a Portuguese soldier I Mr. BAZLEY seconded the motion, which he said was so
who bed been killed in Macao in the rescue of • British sub• deeply interesting to the district with which he was con-
iect who was supposed to have insulted the Roman cath meted. He feared that there was a want of harmony in the
lie religion. In that aw ao ample apology was made end working of our different lodian department, which militated
esuipensation granted. If the Bouillon government bad seriously against the advancement of that country. As an
the least seam of justice—if they did' sot feel morepride in instance, he might mention the manner in which the medi-
netting at defiance the British power than in renaming an cal service in lodia bad been treated. He trusted that
Injury, they would have token the same course. The noble trendasked which had been so forcibly and so elo.
show the value of the cargo and what it consisted of. There gummy wad, and, if • too late this session,
were one or two Panora, but be did cot think they would take an opportunity early next maim to reform
would give moth further information on the sub- the whole machinery of Indian government. The resources
ject. Mr. Stephens said be had a ealoable cargo, of ludia were immense, and be believed that if they had
that he sent that valuable cargo under the con- been properly developed by government, Lancashire would
duet of a man whom he could perfectly trust, ; not now be suffering the calamities of the cotton famine.
that the cargo had been plundered, the crew fouly dealt • He had great pleasure in seconding the motion.
with, and he asked for compensation. The sum demanded I Sir C. WOOD was not aware that the Indian govern-
eras far lees than what Mr. Stephens asked, and it was on meet had failed in anything which its constitution required
the whole a moderate demand. His opinion was OW. if it to do. All he could say waa, that everything be had
they allowed things of this kind to proceed unchccked, the doee had been doee with the approval of the large ma-
cargoes of vessels would, under similar circumstances, jority of his council, with the exception of the settlement
come a common prey to evil-disposed memos. With regard of the waste lands question. He therefore thought
to the award, whatever might be thought of it, it had not that the working of the council had no bearing what-
diminished or effected the original fairness of the claim He ever on the present motion. He (Sir C. Wood)
did not think they ought to snow their vessels to be pion- did pot in any way blame the council for the manlier in
dared without making some remonstrance. (Hear, hear.) I which their proceedings had been conducted; on the con-
The Earl of MAL SIESBURY said that her Majesty's wary, he felt very grateful for the assistance he had re
government had most improperly assumed the offices of " calved (rum them, and was of opinion that it was impos-
judge, appraise:, and exeoutant of their decree. He thought sible for a Secretary of State for India to discharge his
that regret might have been expressed to the Brazilian go- j duties efficiently without the aid of such a body. Thew
moment for having had recourse to reprisals. might be councils at Bengal, Madras, or Bombay, but the
Earl RUSSELL said that the noble earl had observed council in London represented the opinion of the whole of
that it was of the highest importance that the Brazilian India, and souldoome toa hetterconclusionuponthequestiona
government and the government of her Majesty should be that came before them than the governor of any single pro-
m good term.. He (Earl Burnell) had been informed by vince. He conaidered that the measure of the noble lord
the minister of the Court of Portugal in this country was a very wise one, and that a very admirable selection of
that his sovereign had directed the minister of comollore had been made. If any fault was discovered in
Brazil in his country to take some steps with a view of re- the system he should be the last person to object to inquiry,
storing a good underteading between the two governments. but where no fault was alleged he must object to an inquiry
tr oder these circumstances he thought it would be better which could lead to no practical result. (Hear, hear.)
to wait sod see the result of those measures, nod he (Earl Colonel SYKES welted to see an increased power
Russell) should be most happy to be able to animus.* that in the council of India, that they should be able to call for
they were successful. what papers they required, to consider what motions they
THE GALWAY PACKET CONTRACT. liked, and to decide upon them by ballot; sad if the Secre-
The Rail of HA RDWICKE asked the Postmaster-Gene. tart' of State took upon himself the responsibility of acting
cal, let. Whether the sootiest for the conveyance of mails ra opposition to the resolutions of his council, an oppor-
between Galway and America hes yet been concluded. 2rid, tunity should be afforded to the house of deciding between
Its terms ; and whether any and what modifications, more them.
especially as regards the leading of mails or telegrams at St. ; Sir E. COLEBROOKE should be glad if the members
John's, Newfoundland, 3rd. When the performance of the of the council were not excluded from parliament, also
service is to commence. 4th, Whether, notwithstanding the if they were permitted to take the initiative in
reports of the Admiralty surveyors as to the unfitness of pressing matters awe the attention of the govero-
the vessels. thegovernment we prepared to incur the nth of merit ; but be feared that the proposed inquiry would
smiler failure in this service. sth. Whether any teal to weaken the council in the confidence of the
steps have been taken by the government authorities public.
to enema the public against the oonsequeuoee of than. Lord STANLEY said that if his bon• friend pressed this
deficiencies in the vessels of the Galway Company misted motion to a division he certainly should not be able to
out by the Admiralty surveyors. divide with him, because he thought there was great objec •
Lied STANLEY of AL DERLEY said be would swim. Won to en inquiry of the kind proposed. A royal t•onimis-
your to give a categorical answer to the goestioes proposed. woo was an excellent iaatrumeut for investigating questions
(Hear, hear.) In reply to the Gest question, be begged to . • which involved a large and complicated mass of details, but
say that the contract bad been drawn up and bad been fur- all the questions on which the hon. gentleman had expressed
warded to the commisy. and it remained for them to say a deliberate opinion, and which be desired should be in-
whether they would accept it or not. He believed that (pored into, were questions of general policy ; and, more-
they tad resolved to accept it. Secondly, as to the terms of , over. not more than five years ago they bad been fully die-
the contract, it was precisely of the more form as the cussed in that house. There was no desire to consider the
previous cootract, without any alterations or raodi. arrangements made five years ago as necessarily final, and
imitioes except as to two points—one, that no party if his lon. friend had any plan to bring forward, the home I s THE JF.SUITS.
to the contract should be a member of either house of ma- would no doubt be ready to discuss it. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. WHALLEY moved for a retool of the notices of
Bement ; the other, that the contract, before it OM signed, I Mr. A. KIN NAIRD said that during the last five years _tntenente whin.n, pursuant to the per in of the Act 10
stmuld be laid for one mouth upon the table f the House of the improvement in the government of India must have
George c. 7, and the schedule thereto annexed, have
Commons. In reply to the latter part of the second gum been manifest to ell, and there could be no doubt the natives deli, .
wee to the mayoral els k of h• r a the pease. or their
lion no 'lteration had been made in the terns' of the con-' had shown increased coatidence io that government. (Hear ""'
tract as regarded the landing of nail and telegrams at St. • hear.) He would join with his hon. friend (Sir t. Cole! deputies, in. Great Britain and I 're arid, by Jesuits end
John's, Newfound:sad. As to the time when the ger- I broths) in paying a just tribute to the right boo. gentlemen • member of other religious orders,
have been cieties of the church of Rome, bound by ommnsities' or so-
Tice was to cowman:a, that period depended upon ; the Secretary for India for the wisdom mid justice which had
rteteets monastic or reli-
the eoeseeny, sad as soon the company en- !guided his movemects with regard to that country. ours vows •. copies of which notices or s
__,___e.. and Greet Britain to me of her Majesty
noose their readiness to commence. a day would be I Sir IL WILLOUGHBY trusted his hon. friend would In Ireland tranansitted to the Chief Secretary of the Lord
rerm si's
named for the purpose. (Hear, hear.) With respect to the' not press the motion to a division, although he thought this oi
pnneniar secretaries o
pera state, aocovding to the further pro-
fourth and fifth quietism, he was not aware of any addl. I discussion was calculated to do good. He believed the pre-
v* iof said act ; •ying the time or ti at or ahout
.....tional security tiag...d.wasoded.
...yfor.or thh.de fulfilment of thwe CO nth.-
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hao.f.g.ovi.t.,ernmeostadhandeturzed.
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Admiralty that the vends, though in some respects fit to' house came to a right decision oe the subject five years ago. ''l" `."•"'
emf the
whom the voyage, yet possibly whets loaded might not be Mr. A. MILLS said it had hem remarked that this was of parliamentary "re"' Na of ;Na 66.
nun kaer pp the int." speed ;
yet the
ipteeeeeteet
goantonuo moot., but. in 1858 the noble lord et the bead of marloson 1836). 1831-2 ; No. 411, of Maim 1833 ; end No. 110, of
were not prepared to insist apse the complete fulfilment of of the government promised that in some form or soother Dem
the terms °I this °Mt' ISS uthis meted ; bet if the the whole questioe should be considered in the coarse of the ! Mr. HENNESSY ascended the tactics.
voyages were sot performed within the time specified, present year. Of comm. under the eircuariestem he should' Arta. • few wade from Mr. NEWDIOATI.The mom. ...pow to.
the government would insist epee the penalties which were not pees his motion te • division, but hie opinion as to the'
stipulated for by the tams of the contract. He treated unsatisfactory nature of the ansagements remained on- LAND TAX (COMMISSIONERS' NAMES).
he had sot answered thine inquiries too " sharply."' altered. sod be believed the time would 0011Ie when some . Mr. PEEL obtained leave to being in • hell to appoint
(Hear, hear.) alteration most be made, 1 additional commissional; for mouth% the sots for granting
The her *SO rittesnisd at a quotior to 6. The motion was this witlidonwo. • e Lod tog sod other rota and loam

whether 'they could part with any particular .x except
when the whole taxation of the country was ender review.
That was the principle on which he took his stand. and
therefore he did not best about the bush by moving the
previous question. He did not admit that an abstract
resolution condemning a tax was fit to be put at any time,
and after his experience on the subject he was determined
to take every opportunity of registering his decided protest
spinet such resolutions. H, however, next year, they should
be in a position to make a reduction of taxation and they
thought this the best matter for reduction, let them give it
the first plena, but it was essential to public justice that they
should not do it in the dark or M a corner, and without plac-
ing the tax in fair competition with the claims made by other
interests in the country and in respect of commodities at
present subject to taxatioe. (Hear, bear.)
Mr. T. HARKEY said that the bringing forward of reso-
In.ions of this kind was the only way in which such guns-
Vons could be brought under disoasaion, and reminded the
Chancellor of the Exchequer that it was in consequence of
an abstract resolution that the repeal of the paper duties
was ultimately earned. He condemned the report of Mr.
Coeds. and observed that greater rubbish was sever put
forward as an official document by any government. He
did not think it was unjustifiable on the part of the hon.
member for Dudley to ask the house te agree to the resolu-
tion, because be believed that if it were passed it would
assist in bringing about the abolition at no distant day of
this tax.
Mr. SHERIDAN having replied,
The house divided :
For the motion
Against 67-36
The announcement of the numbers was received with
deers.
FELLOWSHIP PORTERS OF LONDON.
Mr. AYRTON, io moving for a select committee to
inquire into the treatment of the fellowship porters of the
corporation of London, said that these porters were a body
long associated with the corporation of the City. They
were a limited number of measurers possessing the freedom
of the City. The last act of the corporation io regard to this
body of persons was passed iu 1810, and they mulcted
them to the extent of- one peony iu the shilling of their
earnings, which mousy was spent io extravagant entertain-
ments, and not for the benefit of the fellowship porters.
The benefit fuod was distributed in this way-001. for table
Z 341. to the rulers, 1381. for an office, 100/. for a clerk, 101.
for • servant, and only 1171. for the relief of the fellowship
of the porters. It was monstrous that there should be this
extravagant waste, lad he hoped that the house would in-
quire into the matter.
Sir J. SHELLEY seconded the motion.
Mr. CRAWFORD said be did not wish, and be was not
instructed to ask, for a suppression of inquiry. lie had
heard the speech of his bon. friend, and he confessed he
could not cee on what ground be impeached the conduct of
the corporation of the City. The fellowship porters were
an old body connected with the City, and although the
right of the corporation to make rules for them had been
disputed, that right was confirmed. No doubt it would not
be right to establish such a body now, hot the corporation
had no interest whatever in their existence. They were
placed by immemorial usage confirmed by a decision of the
Queen's Bench more than 100 yews ago, under rules made
by the corporation of the City. They were nominally shout
1,600 orl, 000 in
n number, but
herc o only 600 were working men,
ofand these 6
petitioned um est inquiry,
not that they objected to inquiry, but they did not thiuk
that any good could result from it while the dissentients
wished to have the society wound up, and the foods,
amounting to about 3,0001., distributed amongst them io
proportion to their respective shares. Ile therefore hoped
the house would not moment to the motion.
Mr. BRUCE said be thought hno. members would be of
opinion that this was not a subject which ought to be
referred to a select committee of the house. The question
was one of a quarrel between the corporation and its em-
ployes, arid the better remedy would be that they should
have recourse to a legal tribunal.
Sir J. SHELLEY mid that these persons were unable to
have recourse to a legal tribunal.
Mr. AYRTON thought that the corporation was respon•
Nib's for acts of injustice done to working men.
The motion was then withdrawn.
Sir S. NORTHCOPE moved an address to her Majesty to
give such directions in the matter of the Banda earl K ir-
wee booty, or prise mousy, as her Majesty may be advised
by the law officers of the crown, or by some competent
judicial authority.
The motion was seconded by Sir M. FARQITHAR.
Lord PALMERSTON suggested that as the osiers re-
lating to this matter would anon he laid before the house,
their production shook' he waited for. He stated the lead-
ing facts of the case and hie own view of its merits, observ-
big that there was no law or rule upon the subject.
The motion was ultimately withdrawn.
PETTY OFFENCES.
Mr. WHALLEY obtained leave to bring in a bill to
amend the law as repels persons charged with petty
offences, and to enable such persons and their wives to
give evidence.

INDEMNITY.
Leave was also given to hip. Plink to Introduce a bill to
indemnify such perwons in the United Kingdom as have
omitted to qualify themselves fur offices and employ [rents,
end to exeeud the time limited for those purposes re-
spectively.
The Turnpike Trusts Arrangements Bill and the Turnpike
Acts Continuance lea., Bill, pawed the second reading.
The India Stock Bill was read a third time and passed.
The house adjourned at twenty minutes to one o'clock.