The Express.
London, England, 1852-11-16 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, TUESDAY EVENING, NOVEMBER 16, 1852.

geatleman (Mr. Walpole) whitlow sey esomeederilles field
beta made by the Arshhideepef Costothery te the iron-
=est is reforms to sada. id eesteelalles. and whether it
would be allowed to sit sump lathe Waal way t
Mr. WALPOLE said %hag se Owirasidraties ewth es the
boa. gentleman had ref be W hiss Mb Nosy own-
her of the government-1111011Wbelle w hem Nods to
hismelf. As to the *swedes whitlow the essoaelts mall he
allowed to sit, he had to state that the owed NOM would
be observed, sad that wee the iseostios of the loonewist
from the begianiew. (Hear, Mara
ST. PAUL'S CATENDRAL.
Sir J. V. SHELLEY said that hi was set swore that
►is hes. sod gallant eellespee wee sheet to pt a ilieellea
to the peerament es the tkkete &Soled to the Demo end
Chagas of St. Peal's; bat as hi lissoded te have put sae
hbossit ea the MN saltiest, sad as the sower of thi=
hem. rattans. wee wet guile eadeloloy et_ eiserly
eased, be wished le hew heaths seldeloti tha....f
the Beard ef Weeks whether it wee tree that
like 3,000 tiekew had boa reserved he the Dessit
Chapter of St. Paul's, and, if net es, what number bed
been allotted to them
Lord J. MANNERS said that 3,000 tickets had met loss
allotted to the Dena and Chapter of St. Paul's, but to the
Dean and Chapter of Bt. Paul's and the City of Leadoo.
(Hear, hear.) He would take that opportunity of sating
that it was unfounded sad antra. that the Dean and
Chapter of St. Pad's made application for VMS et 5,000,er
any number of tithes whoever. H. wesM she further
say that the Newsrooms* seesived every poll& facility es
the 'plena awl t owlet bets the Deem and
Chapter of fit. PaaT., without wehresee to their private
eon vergeose. (Hoer, hear.)
MR. VILLIERS'S MOTION.

Mr. HUMEganyne;;;tirt oa Friday neat he would
lanes for a call of the house on the 22nd, so that every
mambos of the helm might be present on the occasion of
the motion of the hon. member for Wolverhampton.
(Hear, bear.)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said it
would be convenient to the house, particularly after the
motion just given by his hon. friend, if the hon. member
for Wolverhampton would Weer them with the terms of
his notice. (Hear.)
WINE DUTIES.
Mr. OLIVEIRA said he wished to know from the ht
hon. gentleman whether a redaction of the duty on
wines would form pert of Ms jilts ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER maid le
thought it would be more respectful to the house that M.'s
a member of the government, should state his views and
plans to the hone generally, and not in answer to a question
of which he had not even received notice. ((fear.)
FRENCH DUTY ON COALS.

Mr. LlDDEll;ZdMinowtihrdier anY ammonia-
tics had yet takes place between her Majesty's government
and tie governasest of Frames relative to the equalisation
of the duties apes English mil end oohs impacted into the
latter sentry ?
Lord STANLEY mid be could only say, in meteor to
the question,that the subject to which it referred was ems
upon which he attention of the government had bees fee
ems time find. The goverment were hilly aware of the
advantage it wadi be to British interests, and dee to
French interesb. Is lower the rate of duty on British sod
eat coke latredelei We Priam Eat, sailer ell the sic.
eameememe, eel elailleebs the maw of the ether NSF
metelal teletisee Firaes, le the It batter Est to
enter into en/ beigelieliess on this subleeteeparegely. Co..
tatutioatieme lad pre* relative Wit betweea the two go-
venom% sad hem these
einatas
tee ieetteas it that
tie esweremest Frew as se
wee set et Ibis eirestry to it elra=tile
atiaa of their result lateradiesal comeereial system.
(Star, Mee.)
ANSWER TO THE ADDRESS. _ _

The Hon. (57iolitiiriz. segai;iiiii of the house-
hold, appeared at the bar and ammenelleated, by omanumel
other Majesty, tba following palm reply in answer to
the address of the boom
" I have received with asthihstion your loyal aad dutiful
address, and I rely with emaliesee es your co-operating
with me la endeavouring in remote the welfare of all
dames of my subjects."
BILLS OF EXCHANGE AND PROMISSORY

limpet, am is termised hew oath • saes wee
Welty etatary saner a his silthh His so
a la
(Beer been) only dee miai hem
Vain; ft Weida; sat hat the CM 6i lb emo.
simian the het fteeemehe tha be hosed miseibli held
of helm empty pew end& imai be fteepog. (Hcar,
mat lad daft.) He was M sember pro-
tease ; and the peewee aid meet ememmtal warrior,
if aft is the prime, at Led le the perfection
lea he ammithod • del eerier soareely
1611011•161. owed/ than dial
althea ea leash lives 111 the
hear.) He was thrift the emibmendelliel, his set Alia.
thee great ideefte _ Set settaimittes
leaps. Tam alba er
der-ef
inClaf oldie law • mice was PAM Minima ft
MAm& le the heehaw of he lib be yhe fed
ahomeed der ble emestry. , losa) It was 1
enly aOm smile lathe we lest lan th(leerat be bawd by
his aumi mike anikkos the masa arisen et ths
mews empeeing that wow le the Set, if which as one
add be me ampleet be dew up his vireo i•
a late palm washy ed Basim. AM, lathed, whim be
died he God All the Mho *halo et that Malthus
army le wire bet pen the treditioe if his
I. ghat dram.) there h enevart
I. the lgt sew Doke .1 Welliesioa
this pleekeed is that fteasks, I eight seta ht pam un-
noticed. It is our pride that be was one et 66111111011 ; It is
be:4m that air Arthur Wdleeley este sat on these
Meer, beer.) It we review hie i 5..., in the
Sweet et Osetheme bp the huh of sae= which are 'p-
rtieemee pen, his saner, *sat *1,4 was still
He awed rad esmodle and exercised
high eine Osten Bat the mum at Sir Arthur Wel-
lesley is the Ham of Commas must not be easel by the
Got that he wee a Perrault elle or Ihmetray le the
Lord Lineseamt ; he as here • mem ada the
pearl shish, end the most lefiliest mast an sever
bop M eselasilhb That wee • peat pearneentary
triumph, whom be rose in his piste to reesive, es • member
of parliermeat, the thanks of the Speaker is, a brilliant
victory—Nee bier)—and, slid leer, sir, when
at that bar be naiad boa men of your pre-
deceases, in mientatithe wean the thanks of a
Mimode t r.eeeet.Lad Ninepin (Lend cheers.)
re is ea seem of ,castes. whisk I think the
people et lashed eases at this mement seder the same
bereavement width they eau= even It is their Intimate
aremaintenne alb the thernmen end even with the pa
sow et this pest ans. Than weer was • great man who
lied re lea eel se mei is the male op. I will be
heal Awe is set • uniknia is SO been who has not
and
bhe ; =my
sere who
Ile esevemed with him ;
and eerie there ere who law WNW his band. Hie
image, his onenteumen hie miimse. his voice, are im-
pressed up= every waseryomil the k army ear. la the
golden saloon and is the busy as le the bet be
might he bend. The mew whim be
lived will reediest his= of kkabess, and the pale
followed his. Is the street will that lingering glanosd a-
roma anemia which mad never to ure. (Malt
cheering.) Wla ideti, wp ever target that amend&
and
g lessi—dge with line, end radiant, it were,
w ith lory I
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—ilia elaalt apes et Kola faidt
Thee we Xr:et be unameisintid with lie inward and
*And senses, that we might mikeetend how this leve-
rets mar et duty Milled the menifold oiler of his life
with torkniied activity, he Stewed me with a calked= of
sinewy mg Stwareset which no age and no
ecounby 1111111 sent ) And, fortunate in all
Minim Wdligessit rill i Ets-ilse en historian wham
irmend sew rinks with the dories of that land
whisk Wilfrlel eared. (Lewd sheers.) Sir, the Duke
of Wdliegten has left le he snowy a great
legsge psalm MIS than his hone. Ile kaa left it
the -asemegledes 11f his 'Warm (Hear, her.)
I Ida set ay Is lesland that be revived the INNIS of duty,
ter I was sever het; but that le lee mode as
some of goblin Eh mum maestros, that ha km embalmed by
his mem modems mak, sad rewrimmadoel nilo enrbid err
eselibelly ef Wigglier egetimn, I think
meg-
=gobs. (Olemeu) I ee believe that Ma tie
le the lowest, hos these The an and upon ie
War the meat WWI raigesaildity of the state to these
• emsedes the irembleei data el mer moiety, there are
masemle of illienity and of impedes, when the image el
Williston mat ewer to the mumey, sad the awe* sl
duty mielain end empeeet the mid. (Har, briar.) Although
the Dehe of We lifegtea lived se ands In die hearts sad
rise sties seentrymem although until the end of his long
mem he sampled the mast sent pities, sad W-
illed the mter august Mises, mee
ass
seemed le be maim
of whet a epee he emelt is es tameghte end hasp et
hie eeenwaW hen died. !Whys the blesses of
tree wee sew seem eemektdy asented. In an
see w a belief is iatellestoil evade, letters the self-
=seat all. wsmy ON adisewiedeed that the world
m grimiest elms. la es ye et utility,
ernmet
buy mad the assetmemmen-sesee gee* in the had hid
no
vest hetbeir wee► end se repeasstative for their grief,
but in the seksambly at a And we, who are a".
ambled Mee Ma mew ea isrest—h vestigate the
omen ef the weelth Olathe%M te bum mes inhes is oasis.
tied memo* te esommoor sash ether is hid eestreversy
—we aim el the WU the melt eablime astlwiiag
spieled* that hum ideemsoleaces ems Weil
'farads el a senate lessridne a ken. The right hes.
gendemau them moved that as tumble adders 1111•11 i be
preseeled to her Ninhety, thanking her Ibeet/M for hawk*
gium ands= fiss die podia iateresint ef the eared re-
make of hie Geese the hie Duke of Waivers, and as.
111 hSyeey ef the esedid aid of die horse is ender-
to give to the takitsmity fitting lapsaftris.
J. 1
meow of 141.11388 LL mid he areerzedle .send the
sat wik i
rid a deg% w:eVe the easeme L oldie it had
' hoes iteetissed, awl he the whale hoes wield
maw is as eggespriele testimon.
The meths was Men weed to. y

The CHANCILLOII4ImIIIOIIZQUER then moved
that Dukeer
at
the bow Astrid attend the funeral
of ti at Woßington at St. Peel's Cathedral on
Thursday mot sal thut a select enualttes should be ap-
pealed SesesWsrgo atleadmee of the house cad their
Om in dee miarnity.
The desist Moe mobil, nodes el the latest:lee to
tMw /NS asletl wee, is lie =egos of the rlehe
Ices. gendienten. elligended I mat Ho receding nce&l
beak. bees wend to, Ike Iblinering members wore mak I
rad as Ho West aentonlennz—LarA Jail Ransil. Kr.
I W*sia,
_Kr. anbisne,:ritata. Pohlmann, Sir C. Wood,
3. Kamm. ar P. , Kr. Hants, Yr. Chriato-
' plow, &r RAM LOD, Kr. play, Kr. G. A. Hamilton,
sad Lard !stamna. _ _

(}lees bear.) With regard to the Cower of the United
wee well known that, is ha plisse
badmen et each state was earried ea ley the loose:Tenth!
mast alf Inen Ma i% end, ha the emend ple•e&rtte
admloie-
Wades did net hem parte( the foto, there
were set those debates as MC= of administratioa
whlsk tusk op so meek of the badges et the British House
of 011•111111111. Linking at the Mod and rarietya Mai-
ms whisk the beam bed b basseet, they must molder
whether It Testi sot be sosersary, if they adopted the
pessestyespeilies, to alter all the nibs by_ whisk the NW
deet of OM Moses was reguleted ? Shim. Meal who
lest spoke (Hr. Hamel had admielled We it waddles se, and
had ellapeled Is the emit of the maths big car-
ried—the 1111.11.1.11111 d a e4llllll'alM In seedier the
subject, and devils sew edes for the purpose. That befog
the ease, it append te him that they shed& lave the
whole seism beige them at .see before they adopted
es* a pepedlies es that sew soder meadderatb.s. If this
modes wen Genii, it weell be epos to a small section of
the been who might barges le be opposed to say pram-
be mew* to which the majority were &mesh* by
an*g as the debate till 13 Wendt, night after sight, to
delay, sad prebably to deb* le. It would, thee, become
seastary b essolder whether the majority should sot have
the power of Winging the abaft to • close, in order that
the ea Diann of the house es the main question might be
takes. This would be shaft a t and an entirely
new power in the hands eff ty, to abridge discus.
sues and interfere with Ike of debate. (Hear,
hear.) It might also brims a sisestioa whether for facili-
tating the progress dieshieeles it might not be necessary
to limit the number of sieges se eposedess which, under the
existing rules, were required in the ease of every bill. To
some extent this had he's done already, and the number of
time* ea which a division might be taken against any
measure (formerly 32) had been considerably reduced. But
if the motion now under consideration were affirmed, it
might become necessary to go still further, and say that a
bill should be considered an passed at the second reading,
instead of requiring it to pass through three separate
readings. (Hear, hear.) They could set deal with a pro-
position like the present without taking into consideration
the whole subject, and what other afteestbse it might ren-
der necessary. He did not say that smote eases might not
be adopted by which the badness of the home might be
better conducted, or at least eondaeted with men primal
convenience to the member, but he was essvhseed that to
lay down any rule, such as that suggested, without first
conaidering the whole subject of their rules for carrying on
the business of the house, and how those rules would be
affected by it, would be most injurious to the house and the
public ; he must, therefore, vote against the motion.
Sir H. WILLOUGHBY objected to midnight legislation.
He thought the hen. member for Salford had somewhat
overshot the mark, for were the motion carried it would be
in the power of a small minority to stop any debate at
midnight, and thus impede the progress of legislation by
rendering it necessary to begin the discussion over again.
If the hon. gentleman proposed merely to prevent the intro-
duction of any new business after 12 o'clock, that was a
change which he thought would have a beneficial effect.
Mr. BROTHERTON was terry he could not obtain the
support of the leaders of either side, to a change which he
believed necessary, not only for the health of members, hut
for the proper conduct of the bueinen of the Donee. He
thought it far better that they should have mese definite
rule, than that they should be engaged ewe or three ItJurs
after midnight, asthey often were, in discussing whether
they should adjourn or not. As he had some hopes of the
new members he would take a division, notwithstanding
thre opposition he had met with from the leaders on both
aids'.

The Douse then divided—
For motion
the
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200-196
Ma =LES rose to same the reeggelatenent of the
sekvd eemmittee on the government of ow ladle. terri-
tories. with the view, as be said, to that legidaffies which
mud take place at a rely early period,—whether parlia-
ment determined to continue the present system of ad-
salaisteriag the attain of these territories or not. He need
scarcely remind the house that a committee was appointed
early in the last soden for this important purpose. Her',
Majesty's government, on their secession to office, had lost
no time in movies for the appointment of the committee— 1
the sew approximation of the period at which the exist*
set aster which the attain of India were adatiniatered sir
=iit indispensable that some logislatios *Odd
y take place; the object of hie_pressot maths Maw
la resew that committee, be did set saliMplo
eAmilisa to it. (Rear, hew.) He said to maw that
osmagaso. hr theash, in point of fem, the nudes would
be ko the appelatment of a we semedtme, witia in its
sempeshisa weld he is same rosposes afforest hem that
of hot weirs, metals membein of the previous emmilles
oat Wass besa retuned In We sow partisans* sad ter
whose Mates others woad asomearily be substituted, it
would, in point of fact, OS merely the rapppointment of
that einmat which last maks devoted so mush time,
taloa, sad ateestioa to the , and the mesh
of whose Mows was la the blue bola
which bad bow laic as as (Hear, hear.) The total
number Azad es he the semmittas was 31, and it had been'
so well attended by all thous who sat cm it that it was found
to work well, Mr would it be probable that more than 31
members wad seaveniently amemble. Of that who
mewl so the hot semis. may 27 remised who were
available, sail thessfen Aue =Ware must be appointed is
at raw (lithe's who bad bon lest, viz., Mr. Cardwell,
Lard Moho., nut B. Clelebosebo, Mr. Plena., and Sir J.
Esnmeress Tosasmt. Ks Weald propose Kr. Macaulay,
Mr. Weird Hasa, Lori Inaaley, Mr. h. Olin, 'ad Lord
Palawan.. Os the waist esseiest he skald, however,
ocellse hismalf mans Om the rsrappiattneast of the
oreasaluse.

—Mr. HUMB seconded the mike, sal waged that in any
futon inquiry some of the batter lahemsd satires of
India should be mamboed, sepsailly as they hewed mod.
aeons at Bombay and tinseling to protest sad look after
their own interests in say Mato arrangensata that might
take place. TM ialarans of the Ban ladle Company
alone ought ma M M sonsidnel a sash as *shy, bat
due regard heal be had he ha naive papalatisa.
Mr. XVINGOR urged thee then should be some mem
ben as the monositte• emassesd with the maritime and
essemanni Wain of India, awl that some Scotch member,
who *NM represent their Waists as oseaseted with
Sonhad, should be Molls IL
The maim was thsa
_speed M.
TEE DEBBY BRIBERY.
Sir B. HALL (La the ahem* of Sir Ale:aads,Coibsra)
moved that the peddler Who donors of Derby, prsssated
sa Ma November, he mina with this ache sad, ea
W his W 1 of hem sad Maud Mead, he to give
** *Ale the Mu
anise st latmlies, ea Map amt. to the sub-
m
Ilk H. WILLOUGHBY mound that os this natter
mut have to miss before a Mind tailteml, whether the
mattes had am bettor he
ek B. HALL NM That_ was who=
spestive of say Inestisa thst emcee before se
esamnittee ; laden his sod learned friend ia-
ttedod to heal a make at the peaks, he could an do
se Wm it woe mina with the voles.
The motion we, thin word le
CHICORY AND COFFEE.
Mr. HUME nom' he amiss of all the inhales of the
Timmy lispeetime Wa aims IMO; sad, af the sew
Tressary when r;
Se lbs oak of Mislay with safes
aim, mama et the mether at leseesdals prenaiai the
Mearsull Onamsee fir sal spinet the romfahag of the
Tammy Maim. min ham whom, mail the
sa▪
mbas edsiontaros to ask asemsdal ad. espies of la-
atawtiees VerZ7, imbed to he Oimminisesso of Mead
Roma* that Tommy Oder sad, of tho adore
waifh ha Omminbean of Weal Pernerm he dis pm-
the Mohan of dam nth man abo, so
mama% of Ms addidong saps= he hosaned Is any-
hilt* these 111111111111118, width was mend M.
ThBATMENT or 9/puma._ AND DESTITUTE

JUTIMILIM.
RUNTS mood To riceppolet bit.shot mai
Muse *pleated Is the last mesa to isla Op
presto atomises et Maisel sad dudish jamb% sal
what cheeps aro daskshie Y to poise lissaimeik
order to supply iselailsid Malabo in to maim Mac
natio with doe sessesdua eflateaffis telma"-.-11011111111.
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IardPALMIS TOADSM
ITOM mood Of II O.M KIM
41 heves immeted teA. Ohs ead Bare sass the list so.
=Mile bed has seeds mar Om nooses•rap-
e, the deo Inds.
Mr. HUMS Om& in it wo UMW with. sibs,
like the elms to Marepard to wadi pest Omar bad
hoes eahheadi
_Oh smoky, sad ea essoust at Ishii
pate aramels lad Mai auslised pima the aim
essosties et hods, by Opole Lid TeMegal. to tho
dames of which s ma el Num lod Iwo pill
sober the treaty es Oat they would de
la their power to mid la Oa espeuelea of the demi
bode, sad alba disp bad est dem hesibilabiee oei
premishoes "WM led beta sosideed hoot Damara md
oho miss solosies Mt& bsel to meta& with dos.
loiter tla simales of the peamessal NOS to to directed
to the podia. He the the ashes UM amid have a
hisialuee or draw up toter dreamt la mbar to thew
what had boa dose lad Mat was the true Mae of the
paths.
Lend p ALMERSTON these* the hot muss meld be

to pt the taste Mt mad Ikea two take say steps that might
be motemary.
The Howe thou sajoersed at sem o'clock.

P0R111101778, Nov. 16.—The Rosamond, 6, deem
sloop, Ccaussader Orstribra, eselved et Splthoad this
monde; taxa the Wet Wks. Ile bm been nearly ilye
weeks is the hem Pert Pm*, baying chiefly eons
home sailer wee aelesiedeaed le October, 1861,
sad slam the that het het haressa et bee lOW. Ohs has
some bases WNW" hue hem skim= en beard, them
ban
of allthis y bre
aelesis er eves agm et hyor. The great
defeat eds webedity sm be
the fact of the bilge weber Was tamedvowel
pashody ug to
blac is
k,
setittlag nest Weiss 'data twelve hems et ite
1 wag in the ihip. the bee corrempteally bed to
ae pawed out led emesdeme swim
day. She bee here a her invalids
heat the swim Fear days due she
_peeped the
merchant Kate Kearney, 1111 derttele:erNienleasia to
Loudon, dashed to be reported. The 1111, slow stoma
guard ship, watt IRS et le BOUM
to-day. The weepeheater, K Mein week Llseimat
Parlek, wee limpaelM W the Ommeedee-ie.Ohlet
awl west est to Ilpitheet this altereeen. The Frolic, 16,
wee laken awl et ANIL le.day, and ibe Palsy wee taken la.
The Peweetel, 114, was lehee est et the sad basin today
and the Pitt, 72, wee likes le be eawyerted Ye a seal
ewites to be ylered at Om Mabee/mak. The Iteemay
wease bee agleene. Wig hem ihe mum*
berde. The ladle ranasiPtArallet UnkOTtiM
ee tetrad MU Maim lie Who, te be
I mita.