The Express.
London, England, 1855-04-21 00:00:00

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yes Manspillag so far as I was able to show Pt Me
soattary.
Tim Chairmsa—The point is, tread tit• acassation be
Vast yours was the fault, not whether the &legation was
either true or fats?—lf government defended itself
ley saying that all the Winston wan owing to deficiencies on
Mewl at She alommimariat, it raises a strong presumption
tbalt I nollsallat rig dusty.
Legeml-1 dle see wish to threw the Maras on you.
ThaaWsm etelb• nimmittes is to ampartaia who is to ba the
reereedble pewee eel sapped." government affirmed
them illeree to who ben ifiee in the commimariat,
de yes milder that yes am le Mine, or that you are re-
spond_P—lt throws great responsibility—it throws the
reepteellelty on me whether that resrannbility resolves
itseM
The Wavle wee.
Olsairman—That is another question. Whether you
hays dams yaw duty is soother question. The question is,
was it your easy?—lt was my duty. acting under the
panel direetteee at the Minister for War. lam the person
latatedlately emusedblo.
Mr. Laye
sem i
eili—Me yea eink was an anomalous position,
Wing at Um winteat n tho Treasury and under the
dlroetka of the Miehter of War ?

Sir C. Trovelyen—The position, no doubt, wee an anoint•
leas ciao. I was serving two masters—acting in two capa-
cities; in asocial matters I was acting under the Treasury,
and in general army rotten under the direction et the
Mahler et War. Witness remembered two peones well
knots smd aegsainted with the resources of the Best—Mr.
Lerma sad CeMsei Diskson—who were esnalted a to
whet wnnidi be fresesoey do as army in that esnatry ; but
he amid net diem his Emmy te say whether Lsyard
:rato
Mr. Mir the WIMIIINIS et ispile Om
re limee was sce teenspint snobs lathe Sot
tt wn the utmost impotent to swabs ow. He
did ad rosseaber whether Mt. Lapsed suggested
the orgeahatlon of bands of Amoebas, who could
be depended on, to accompany the army,_ instead
of Greeks, wise would ran away or betray it. The com-
missariat took the best possible means to obtain the best
information on matters of supply and money in the sentry,
end oat to the Turkish Embassy for reports on the state
of the country. They bad various officers in the
commissariat, who had seen active service in connexion with
the British arms in venous quarters of the globe, but there
was no use in the commissariat moistly acquainted with
the resources, supplies, and peculiarities of the countries of
the Best ; bat they bad men of approved fidelity and
trained badness habits, and who could acquire all necessary
tool isfoneetime hum the consuls and merchants, and by
aid of Otero/Min, le. He did not agree with Lord Luesa
when he seid the essemimariat damn were good account-
ante, bat knew sathing about horses. It was not the bot-
tom of the sentollesseiat to be acquainted with any hones
beyond their own. It was their main badness to under.
stead the qualities of forage rather than of horses. If Sir
De Lacy Evans stated that the commissariat allows were
good accountants, and that, if the Treasury knew them
to he good ocountants, they thought them competent
for their duties, but that they knew nothing of field
duty, he, Sit C. Trevelyan, must deny the gallant general's
statement. The commissariat diem had great 'spoliate
in field•dety. and this bad been amply proved and attested
by Captain Fishberne and others is connexion with the
Canada 'shelties, in New Zealand, sad the Calfrarien caw

pigs
The Chairman—Bat though they suemeded is Ceara,*
they failed in the Crimea. (A leash.)
Sir C. Trevslyaa—Yes ; unfortunately there was some
great defect at Balakiars. There was no beach-muter
there, or a sufficient body of mu to dispose of the storm as
they arrived. The evidence of Sit De Lacy Evans, the
De of Cambridge, and others, was to the effect that there
wire so stores or magazines whatever at Coastanticople,
and it was very palatal to him to have to mats a statement
mammy to sash high and general authority ; but 1 post.
tired, (said flir C. Trevelyan) deny any deficiency
in the stores. The commissariat had ample stores
met may at Constantinople and Vans, bat at Malta, en
heard the traasports and elsewhere, and farther than this
the amialeseriat were continually taking stock. There was
• emagets depot for 2,000 live cattle at Smyrna, which was
new mated, and which become a great burden to the
eammiseriat. There was also a large eleipot for the constant
suggly of live male at Constantinople. If, notwithstandiag
thins dispel% the army in the Crimea had not a sufficient
s+/!1y ef km& nest, that was owing to the irregularity
sad hat mrsagement of the see-transport service. Then
wag, meaner, a large depot for live male in Dai-
wa. The principal mime of the breadth', down
of the commissariat transport was the blinking
Mof the road from Balsklava to the front. Mr.
ir stated in one of his letters that up to the day of the
great hurricane on the 14th November, no army in the Said
messier better supplied with commissariat storm than that
before Sebastopol. Down to that day they had, among other
things, boss supplied with freak meat every other day, but
after that the arrangement, of the commiseariat were
greatly deranged, end the army was in consequence subject
to more or lam of privatioa.
Mr. Layard told the witness that the statement of Kr.
',tidier, as to the supply of fresh meat up to the 14th No-
vember, was contradicted by the evidence of Sergesat
Dawson and other witnesses before the committee.

sir Chalks mid he wee wl giving the committee the in-
formation he permed. Kr. Fdder had made tke stele.
:sent he had Just reed to the committee. Hs knew
Kr. Ftlder, from many years' sapsriesee' to ha a
most tratlifel persoa and a man who empletely
endastood his bantam. He might take that
partially of saying that Mr. Filder and the Khan =s-
lag under him felt very keenly that a great deal it "Kim*
had been given spinet them in the semadtise whisk Key
were at present preshaded from aostradielleg as migiehleg.
In reply to other sondem, he staled that the 'Freafrary
been continually tileheeies the essmissariat byeaiis
it ulcers'miring lime hem the 'sissies ; by
hem the Irish essidebaksy, dimes who were well
and who had bad malegess dudes to perform in Ireland ;
mad by ahw Flamm tam Irma some of the pa&
Kim lien who tad lase Bas emsdiagly well is
the amakerideL Before the army_ left Vents lir the
Crime. Kr. Fader, in a letter to the Treasury, stated that
be had Ken mere than enough of persons tie his staff dams
sort sad maetber, bit not of the right sal, and that he lambi
rather have me properly trainA eemmismr• t shore than
the mistanse at tea pollee Aim hi his department.
Mr. Filder, shame Vmse. had Pethilaidiseilter" that
a number of ma hem the pollee hires as/ est
from thh sonatri. M act es subordinates in the semaimelet
department. When thou' MS arrived in the me, though
sew I. She Madam of the messaisseriat, they Demme very
metal; mil they performed very maim dads" is the
Nate aspen end elsewhere, when the "'Kim leaked after
themehee.

To General Peel—lt had hitherto bees the pnetiee for
the geseral someaandlsg in the field to take the commissary-
general to We bison. (it laugh.) It ins the commos law
of the essiseheadat, so to speak, that a comambeary-geseral,
whoa as army wee to the held, should constantly comma-
skate with the general is emusand, as to the ocisoition of
the commassariat department. That wee always the
practice with the Dake of Wellington In hie Peninsular
campaign.
Being readaded by Mr. Layard, that the Duke of Cam-
bridge, Lord Lama, General Sir De Lacy Brans and others,
had stated before the Committee, some of them, that they
had rarely seen Mr. Elder, and others of them, that they
had seen him at all during the campaign, Sir Charles
said that the (section of a onsnalseary-geseral war to
forme and provide for the wants of the army, and to
arrange and mashise on a large male. That was hie port-
lier basi•eas, and that Mr. Filder did in ea admir-
able meaner • but that duty WAS 0011 of iIIIMREIN volume,
labour, and tiaziety, and alms the commissary-general wee
bares with, sad eappurted sad easearsasd by the leading
officers of the army, it was imposable that he could properly
perform hie duties.
To the Chairman--Hs bad stated that during the NCR-
seder Was it was the practice fur the Dake of Wellington
to take the Commissary- General to his boom. He was not
in a position to salibither or not that practice had been
followed by Lord lea.
To Mr. Layard— • was more or less familiar with the
despatches of the Duke of Wellington, and he
was aware that almost the first thing his Grace
did, at the beginning of the Peninsular War,
wee to draw oat with his own band a most elaborate sense
of rules and mitigations for the guidance of the Commissariat
Department. It was true that he (witness) had often re-
ferred is the course of his evidence to things done during
the Piedsealar campaign, but that was merely an Blahs-
ties, sad sot injustillcation of what had been done in the
ppreaumsaalt ow. The offer made by a mercantile firm in
Ilinpssl In supply the army is the Crimea with preserved
mesa sail wcptablee on a large seals was not accepted,
Mai* WSW' it bed been found, from the ezperianoe of
thesemy/sebit the Isar war and elsewhere, where those
mesh WI Wes Mel, that they were liable to spoil, that the
arrival( krospieid au y like them, and that the Commie-
s.** had Rum for maiming upon obtaining large
seiptillm fresh meat is the Bast for the um of
the M. Wieser reed a Uttar he had written at
the emememesenat et the wee to Mr. Pelee ; the feat
.diet tie Tram" dada Me own temperer, &biome,
hem ilesesede mama, In Beemessesedri, to show the animas
whisk bad actuated his department in providing for the
eseeffiet of the army. The letter recommended, among other
=
be that_ qualities of pother and other artieles
Wley From for ,the troopr, regardless of
iCObehrmiteteibt Maw& the Cabers was usezosp.
*soli% hat the allellesetilie war that the soldiers bad not
strithe basal efffilip things. flAwill!sr)
allwiliald Elmo ban will* ha el at) been read
sounded very tellesperw ; has did the fruits prefer
to assume that all the Waage spokes of is Nig loiter bad
been supplied to the any, se a mean of I. aurae, instead
of auditing all the endow* gives to the contrary by pre-
ceding witnesses ?
Bir Charles replied that he believed in the truth of the
official statements he had fait it his Jilt, W bring before
the essakittas, sad which were bawl ea fibs **charity of
pabiia samba li ham!.
lamely W /11. &maw. vitals' tail lie iiiiilbsied