The Express.
London, England, 1863-03-28 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS, SATURDAY EVENING, MARCH 28, 1863.

THE LATE EXHIBITION.

Mr. GREOOkrYaskeil tlanTGhancellor of the Exchequer
(ia coooexion with Mr. Seymour's question) when the Royal
Commissioners of the Exhibition of 18111 intend to publish
their teal report ; and whether the oommisaionere of 1851
intended to insist on the removal of the present Exhibition
building within six month' after the closing of the Exhi-
bition!
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the
government had entered into no negotiation for the pur-
chase of the buildiog, end in point of fact am minister be
was not io a position to give the hoe. gentleman
any information on the subject. But his hon.
(need was perhaps aware that the disposal of the
building rested upon the joint coocorrenes of the orica-
mieskiners of 1862, those of 1851, and Messrs. Kelk and
Lucas, not upon Messrs. Kelk and Lucas alone. He be-
lieved the nOl6llCe COI11021“0111 of 1851, which was in some
ammo the organ of the commiasioness of that year, had en-
tertained the question whether it would be expedient to
make a proposal to the government to take over the build-
ing, and they had had a communication with Masan. Kelk
and Lucas, but that communication was upon their own
&amount, and not on the responsibility of the government.
Having heard, though not formally or officially, what were
the views of the contractors, he did not think—so far
es he was able to comprehend them—that they were
compatible with what the government would think
due to the exigencies at the public service,
or to the jastioe of the case. On the part of the govera-
mint however, he (Kr. Gladstone) had to any absolutely
nothing. (Laughter.) The commissioners of 1862 had pre-
Erenot their final, but their principal report, and he be-
di. that it would very soon be in • oonditiou to be laid
before parliament The commissioners had given notice to
the contract we to remove the budding, so as to keep alive
their full rights as they stood in the original agreement.

stop the Alabama, yet she was allowed to rioter Port Royal
' and sot detained there. He we not is possession of all the
face ; but he would menthes this fact. that to stop • yawl
for • nolatioo against the Foreign Enlistment Act, it must
be during the mine 'um, in which the offence was coal-
: witted against the act. If an oppottuoity had offered some-
thing would have been done, but he believed that before
instructions were sect out to Jamaica the vessel had become
the property of the Confederate government, and that
made it impassible to detain her, as she had
passed beyond the laws seder which her Majesty's
government could act. He hoped the house would think
, that the government were free from blame in this matter;
but if the introduction of this debate should tend to ft-
• move false impressions, it would be • circumstance for which
. they would have reason to tionpatulate his hou, friend and
: themselves. (Cheers.)
1 Mr. T. BARING said he had beard the speech of the
hon. and learned gentleman with regret, and with great sur-
prise, became the toes of it would not he likely to allay
the feelings which had been created on the other aide of the
I Atlantic. (Hear, hear.) He felt quite sure the hon. and
learned gentleman did not wish to increase the irritation
which existed, nor the government desire to provoke say acts
against this wank, ; but when the hon. and leased gen-
tleman founded his speech, not upon the particular matter
which had been brought before the house by the hoe. gen-
I demo opposite, but had brought charges against the go-
, vernment of the United States, and referred to the diplo-
matic ourrespondence with that government in support of
them, he thought the effect would not be conciliatory. but
would rather damage our position in that country. (Heer,
bear.) He was afraid the United States goveramot would
I read the speech of the hon. and learned gentleman as very
much like an indictment of the past. (Hear, hear.) And
' if ever there was a moment when is that
house ovary miry feeling should be laid aside,
and when this country and the government ought
to show forbearance, it was when a great feeling against this
country had been created on the other side of the Atlantic.
Mr. BRIGHT maid he was sorry to hear the of the
hon. and learned gentleman, not only asregarded its tone,
i but because it was very different to a speech delivered by
I the boa. and learned gentleman io the last session of parle-
meat He speed with the hon. member for Hunsugdoos
that the toms of the speech was unfortuoate, because
it was delivered by one of the chief law offers
of the ernes. The honourable ant learned see-
llamas had referred to the diplomatic correspondence
of Mr. Seward, and had pointed out some incoesistencue ;
but as this country had • minister at Wethingtoo, and the
United States government • minister in this country, Mr.
, Seward might have thought he had foundation for the hope
1 that in • cm like this war—not a war between two inde-
pendent state—there would be more forbearance towards
his country than the bad received. (Hear, beer.) He would
not follow the hoe. and learned gentleman in his speech ;
but he could not help feeling that the effect of it
brought to his mind the sort of speech the hon. and
' learned gentleman would have delivered if he had
been in another court cud hold a brief.
(Hear hear.)
The hon. and learned gentleman said that the Foreign En-
listment Act was no part of the law of nations, and
that if we chose to repeal it we might build
ships of war for anyone. He (Mr. Bright) did
I not know whether this was so as regarded us,
• but it was not so as regarded the United States ; for in
Itheir act they acknowledged that the measure was intended
; to enforce ciao of the lAMB of nations, which were invented
to preserve peace between different powers. (Hear, hear.)
He would sot go into say further details ; bat be was satis-
fied that the speech of the hon. and learned gentleman
would give no greater satisfaction to very main, persons in
this ormatry this it would give to very many in the United
Stales. (Chem) He was satisfied further that if any-
' body in this country was building ships of war in-
. Waded to help the revolutionary party, say, in the
little kingdom of Portugal—which was so great
• favourite with our government—her Majesty's ministers
would at once interfere to prevent these ships from milt%
I say, continued the 1100. gentleman, that your neutrality
a cold
and unfriendly one. I say that, coosiderieg the
, natural alliance between this country and the United
States, and the enormous interests which you jeopardise,
it does become the government fairly to look this question
lin the face, and to exert the influence which they possess,
and which I believe the people of this country would
support them in exerting, to prevent the mailing of these
Teals, which can by no means whatever have any effect,
as far as we are concerned, but to imperil
our relations with that country, which of all in
the world we have the greatest interest in
remaining at peace with. (Chown) Do not for one mo-
met believe that beam the United States are in this
peat calamity they will not come out of it • great la-
ties. Do sot believe for one moment that acts like this can
be forgotten now, or forgotten ever. There ere people in
America interested apparently in creating an ill feeling he-
-1 tweea that country and England. Why, there are two
• million Irishmen is America, and wherever an Irishman
' planta his foot on foreign soil there stands an may
I of England. (Loud cries of " Oh, oh !" with
some cheers.) Yon have only to go hack
, to the last war for proof of that. I oould reed you • epee&
delivered in this house by Lord North, in which he
I lamented that amongst those moot hostile to England
I during the revolutionary war were those emigrants who had
I gone from Ireland. (Hear, hear.) Well, then, if that is
so in America, there may also he in this country elements
I of hostility towards America; and any rim who is worthy to
be • minister, instead of speaking in this cold unfriendly tone,
would feel that all the living world sad all posterity would
judge and condemn him if he permitted anything to be left
node* which he could do to peace between the
United Sete' and Eogland. (S=7 I am not afraid to
I stand ap here in defame—not of Mr. Sewarffe dapateles—
but of the claims which the people of the limited States
I have upon the generous forbseisme and sympathy of Eng-
light:nee. If you had heard last night—(derisive cheses)--
if you had looked into the faces of 3,000 of the most intelli-
gent of the attire classes in London as I did—if you had
heard their cheers and seen their sympathy for the country
for which you appear to care so little, you would imagine
that the more forbearing, the more generous, and the more
just the conduct of the government was to the United States,
the mows it would commend itself to the magnanimous
feelieg of the people of this country. (Chasm.) If the
aside lord at the head of the government, who is a man of
amgualledexpariencein politics, and who, though he some-
times drive, the coach very near the edge of the precipice,
menet, I should think, intend to drive it over—(hear,
hear)—ifaiemdthe noble lord, who has now for en keg • time
d me
the affairs of this country, with a meter de-
gree of concurrence in this house than perhaps any
minister ever enjoyed during his recollectiou if the
bolds lord would now come forward with kindly
words sad perms acts, in a noble and friendly
spirit towards a (restated kindred peoplie—he has it in his
power to perform services to both eater and to the world ,
at large not exceeded by any that his warmest admirers
would say he bad rendered during his lee and pro-
tracted mem (Cheers.) The Melt, on this floor,
thwack& lord, In five minutes of thane genial and friendly
wards white Boas know so well how to neer, might send a
:mew to the United States that would allay much irrita-
tes, and would give great confidence to the friends of peace
tot only on that side of the Atlantic, but to a vast number
who hang epos his utterance in this country. (Loud cheers.)
Mr. LAIRD said that every transaction senesced with
the bail Meg of the Alabama, from the Wile down of her
keel to her kaiak bad been perfectly straightforward sod
above hoed. Ber Majesty's government had every facility
afforded them for inspecting the ship, and when she left
the dock the had a custom-house officer on board. It had ,
therefore bees • perfectly legitimate transaction throughout. 1
There was however the point that bad been lost sight of !
du
ring the discussion. if a ship without gnus were re-
as so dangerous, guns, muskets, and ammunition of
ell aorta must be allowed to be much more so. (Cheers.)
: Now he (the bon. member) had been to the custom-house,
sad looking up the records relating to the shipping of im-
plements of war to the Northern States. (Conservative
cheers.) He found amongst shoes who bad engaged is
. transactions of that hied the eminent house of Baring
. Brothers. (Loud and long-continued laughter and chem.)
He found also the Inman Company, Brows, Shipley,
and Co., sad many other well known firma.
Perhaps the house would like to know the extent
to which the United States had had supplies of arms and
, munitions' of war from us; and gentlemen opposite would
doubjeas be able to obtain much more informattco on that 1
more from the consul at Liverpool than he could hope to
procure, for that official maw every manifest and had to pee
a toss to every ship sailing to Aniline& He (Mr. Laird)
found from the official records at the custom. home that
: from the Ist of May, 1861, to the fist of December last
, thee* had been shipped to the Hatboro States no fewer
than 41,500 muskets, 341,000 Atles—(eheers)--26,500 gun- 1
' flints, 49,900,000 percussion ape—(sheen)—and 2,205
swords. (Loud cheers.) To that must be added at
least a third more for article like swords, riles,
. and the like, exported under the name of "hardware." 1
(laughter.) He had very recently heard of a ship of 2,000
toss taking out • whole cargo of this hardware." (Hear,
her.) From the let of January to the 17th of March, he
found that 2,347 gun barrels, 3,105,000 percussion caps,
' sad 30,802 rifles had been sent out in addition to the
name= quantity of warlike storm which be lad read to
1 the house. (Cheers.) If, therefore, the Southern States
had got two ships unarmed, and Dot fitted while in that
state for the purpose of war the Northern
' States had been very well supplied with the most
efficient means of warfare from this country. (Queerer
' The house bad bean told that the United States had
behaved well to us during the Russian war ; but be had
heard that a war vessel was built for the enemy in Amelia%
and Meally sailed to Petropthlovski. (The hon. gentle-
man then read • letter from San Franthiso. Ovine ;argos-
ies relating to this vessel. It was called the America, and
it was taken to Petropaidovski by Lkatenaat Hudson, who
was or had lately been io the United States army. and was
at all meae the ace of • distiapithed Amerian officer. It
was protected at various places by American ships , it
reached Petropatdenki in the to do the Russians
good selves ; sad Lieutenant Hudson was lad-
sanely rewarded for taking her safe there.) Bet
that was not all. In 1861 letters were written to
a firm with which he (the hon, member) was connected,
oriWg the they should build iron-plated vowels of war
and gunboats for the Northern gourmet. (The hon.
gentleman read • number of these letters amidst the load
olVEwlalktibe=oB.) C°ltdestneirlrotiliels:thitedrto
• state the name of the Asterism agent; but if anyone doubted
de word he would plats the misdeal Wm in the bands of
the Speaker, or of the noblelerd at the heed of the govern-
natind. who should malaise them is the deleted eeefidetiom,
and Wahl whether they were eat genie. The Asserimes

were employing every detective officer they could get bold
of in the country, sad they bad apire everywhere. They
had them in his (the boo. member's) eon's building-yard at
Birkenhead ; and • gentleman told him that they had been
dogging bim about Lmdon for weeks Fast. Meer, hear.)
II they called this freedom he (the hon. member) coLlemed
that he thought we had better remain se we were.
(Laughter Rod cheers.) As to the remarks of the hoe.
gentleman the member for Birmingham, he (Mr. Laird)
would rather go down to posterity as the builder of a dozen
Alabama, than as a man who bad striven to set elms
whist clam—(great cheering)—and who bad cried up the
institutions of soother country which had proved nothing
but failures the moment they came to be tested, sod
which made the very name of liberty absurd. (Olieen.)
Mr. S. FITZGEIULD, after having stated that be be-
lieved leer Majesty's ministers were perfectly justified in not
proceeding to act upon mere suspicion in the case of the
Alabama, directed the attention of the house to the recent
capture of the British ship Peterhof by Commander Wilkes,
of the American navy. He believed that capture had been
illegally. effected, and he called upon the government to
protect to that case, and in others of • similar character, the
rights of British subjects.
Mr. B. W. CRAWFORD stated from his own knowledge
that the Petals/A had no contraband of war on board.
PASSAGE OF RUSSIAN TROOPS THROUGH

called neutrality. (Hear, !marl But whether our neutrality
• is warm or cold, friendly or unfriendly, it is sincere and
hornet—(ebeers)--ead I eon arum my hon. friends sod the
home, that whenever it is in our power to enforce the pro-
visions of the Foreign Belistment Act, ally and in cc-
, cordance with justice, we shall not be found wanting in the
performance of our duty. (Hear, bear.) It is • gnat
• mistake to suppose we can see with pleasure my
transactions in this country tending to violsite sot only the
letter but the spirit of the law. It would be much more
agreeable to us uteri those supplies wbichbave bongo well
' enumerated by the hon. member fur Birkenhead as having
been furnished in abundance to one arty sod very scantily
• to the other, U the whole of the United Kingdom bad re-
I mined in a state of perfect neutrality between the two
! parties, and if so supplies had been furnished to either on.
• party or the other. (Hear, hear.) Bat when we are so
much reproached for not having acted upon mere suspicion,
it is fair for us to say that so far as suspicions go, we have
! been informed, it may be erroneous)y, that not only have
arms gone to the Northern part of the limited States, bat
that endeavours have been made, in Ireland especially, to
enlist persons to go and serve in their army and navy ;
and unquestionably a considerable number of rum have
arisen in North America, of British subjects who have been
seised, and attempts made to compel them to serve against
their will in the war sow rag*. (Hear, hear.) Therefore
I say, feeling a desire that the moat friendly relations
should be maintained between this country sad the United
Stara, I regret exceedingly any circumstance of any kind
which could have crested imitation in the minds of the
people of the Northern Unice. All Ima my is, that we
cernaot go beyond the law. (Hear, hear.) The law is me, I
know, verydifficult of execution ; but thighs not the firet time
when that has been discovered. Whim the meter was melee
in Spain between Bon Caries and Isabelle, it wee my duty to
prevent supplies reaching Don Carlos from this musky.
Ships were to our knowledge fitted out in the Thames to
take part, as we suspected in the war, bat we bad not suffi-
cient idol mation to enable the government successfully and
efficiently to interfere with them. I hope that these gen-
tlemen who are warm advocates of the North will age that
influence which they are entitled to exert by the course
they have taken with a view to prove to their friends at the
other side of the Atlantic, that the charges made against
the Brinell government are not founded in reason or in law,
and will 11111(1re them that her Majest)'s government will con-
tinue, as r °coined the, have done hitherto, to execute the
law wherever cases shall be brought before them in regard to
which they can safely act upon good end sufficient grounds.
But, am I havestated, there must be a deposition upon oath
that deposition must be made upon facts which will stand
examination before a court of law but to call upon us
arbitrarily sod capriciously to seise n;oels with regard to
which so offence can by proper proof be afterwards esta-
blished is to urge the government to adopt a coarse which
would mat discredit upon them and would only lead to• dif-
ficulty and embarramment. (Hear, beer.) I ma only say,
therefore, that I trust and believe the government of the
United States will meg that oar anxiety is to cony
out the law ; but they should not imagine that
the cry raised will induce us to come down to this house to
alter the law. (Hear, bear.) We have bad some experience
—I at least have had-{laughter)—in matten of that sort
heretofore—(renewed laughter)—and I believe that some
maritime' who are sitting upon this bench would not be
disposed, even if I were, to concur in any proposition of
that nature.' (Cheers.)
The discussion, chiefly with referent* to Poland, wee con-
tinued by Lord Fermoy, Sir F. Goldemid, Mr. Newdegate,
Sir IL Verney, Sir H. Streosy, and Mr. H. B. Gemini.
The motion for adjournment was then agreed to.
The house then went into committee on the Saving Banks
Acts, when, on the motion of the CHANCELLOR of the
EXCHEQUEtt. the following resolution was sawed to :
" Their inexpedient to amend the laws tering to the invest-
ment of the monies of savingselmoks, established under the
sir 9 Clomp IV., e. 92 ; to create a charge for such @avian-
banks upon the Consolidated Fund, in place of certain
perpetual annuities now standing in the names of the
orninienimen for the reduction of the national debt for
such gavingshaoks ; to give powers for converting certain
other immure of such perpetual &nunlike into certain other
annuities, and to provide tor the due payment out of the
Consolidated Fund of any deficiency which may arise from
ineuffloiency of the sonorities to meet the legal claims of
the trustees of such saviap-banka."
Leave was given to Sir G. 0. Lewis to bring in a bill to
consolidate and amend the acts relating to the voltunecr
force in Great Britain ; and to Mr. Bruce for a bill to con-
firm certain provisional ceders uader she Local Government
AM (1858).
The other bunnies' wee disposed of, and the hour,
journed for the Easter holidays to Monday, April 13.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.

CROXTON PARE —Fanuy.

Tim Femme' PLAYS of 50 soya., 20 to go to the aecood,
and 5 to the third, for 4-yrotds and upwards sot thorough
breds, the property' of and bred by torsion residing within
the district busted by the Belvoir, Quarudoe, Cutworm:no,
or Mr. Trilby's hounds, or within 15 miles of Crortou Park.
Farmers, farmers' sous, and pridemeu riders. Heats.
2 miler. (11 tube.)
Mr. J. Goodson's kirdellYeld. by Drayton agsd,thrt
(t4llsrrelll 1 1
Mr. Thos. Abbott's Bandollos, 'god, lYst Sib( '
Mr. T. Crow's, 11m.. TaMsat,.4 Yrs. list Ilk
sorpai

_
-Tin WaLrnsm PLAT' of 50 sem, added to a Sweep-
stake. at 15 eon. each, b It, for all ages, maids. allowsuscas
and winning penalties. About three-quarters at a mile.
(12 robs)
Mr. G. Bryan's Welland, by Angnr-Backbat,4 yrs, list 119.
(J.oslatm.) 1
Lord Wilton's c by Modurell—lady Evelyn, 4yrs, tot lUb
(G. Needham) I
TEE GRANNY nannies, of 20 lova each, 10 ft, and 5
only it declared; winners extra; gentlemen rides; pro.-
sifts* 71b extra. Granby Gnarls (about a mileand a half).
(53 subs, 40 of who.. pay 5 eon. each.)
Mr. Moore na fidolon, by The Flying Dutchman—Black-
eyed &wan, eyes, lest (Mr. 0.8. Tbosupwe) 1
Lord Wesimorlaad's Oskapple, 3 yes, list LtAb
(Mr. Edwards)) 2
Mr. Malvinas Conundrum, 6 yes, list Lb (mc Mertes)
,laptala Little) 3
Tin Biumwoll COPLOW (tuxes of 3 sors each, with 50
added, for hunters ; gentleman riders. Once round. (25
two of whom eatenog late pay 10 soya eseh.)
Mr. L. Klag's The Dotter, 1.• yrs, list 71b.. (Mr. W. &Mil) 1
Lord Andover na Hamlet, aged, 13st 121 b .... (Mr. Dixon)
Colonel Reeve na Haycock, aged, 12st 7lb (Capt. Little) 3
ins linvoat Cairns Breen of 10 soya each, with 80
added, fur 3-yr-ulds ; colts, bet 10Ib; and fillies, Bat 7lb ;
maiden allowaoces and winoers extra. One mile. (19 subs.)
lir. Illphinstotefs Dunkeld, by Drumour—Barbariaa.
Bst 6th
Mr. R. button's Olenorchy, est 31b 'J Kendall) 2
Mr.J. Osborne's Comet, ast 10rD (1. thibona)
TB! &MAT &sue of 5 wows. each, with 25 added; for
3.yr-olde end upwards; insides and selling allorautoes.
Half a nnlo. (3 subs.)
Mr. Beaumont's Tbe Little Baragh, by Weatherbit—
Datclunan's Daughter, 3 vs (6011, est llb
(Mr. O. 8. Thompson) 1
Mr. R. Law's Prlmltl (601.), Set llb (61r. W. liev111)
Lord Westmoreland's 6 yrs (661.), 161 (ear.
est lUb) (ltr. Edwards) 3

Tax Cioxros Pau PLOW et 50 sane, addecrto a
Sweepetakes (it
when. each ; ter a sea ; winners extra.
One mg°. . .) . _ _ _

Mr. J. lisbUrns's latirduas, by Ths Can—Lao, 4 ms,
(W 384147) 1
Lord Westmoreland's °Asp*, 3 yr; Tat Mb
(Mr. G. 8. Ilsompson. ) 2
Mr. IL. Law's Indtatas, 4 yes, BA 41b
The CUP of 60 am. in specie, added to a handicap
sweepstakes of 20 mom each ; 10 ft, and oat sif declared.
Mr. 8. Thelisson's Bally Sdasurd, by Bement way.
eye, 1 Ist 1110 OIL U. B. Thompsoo) 1
Lord Wilton's c bl Stockwell—Lady bvslyo, 4 yr 5,10.4 bib
(Captain Little) 2
BETTING ON THE COURSE.
CITY AND SUBURBAN HANDICAP.
14 to 1 apt Adveuturer (t)
100 to 7 Oberoa (t and off )
25 to 1 Alohymiet (t)
33 to 1 Glenoehty molt (off)
DERBY.
30 to 1 aget Gleaochly eolt (I and off )
40 to 1 Duukaid (t)
BETTING AT MANCHESTER.—FAIDAT.
CITY AND SUBURBAN.
100 to 8 apt Adventurer (aff)
14 to 1 Moro° (t)
15 to 1 Glesochty It)
15 to 1 Misfortune (off)
DERBY.

100 to 14 apt Lord Cliftlen (t)
There was only a limited attendsace. sad so busbies of
any coosequeocs transacted.

NAVAL AND MILITARY.

ADMIRAL:I7, MARC IE 27.—PZOKOTIONS.—COM-
Olander C. G. Niacin, to the Galatea.
Naval Instructor B. A. Yowler, to the Galatea.
Pap:nester E. K. Mill, to the Archer.
EugumerJ. I. Davies, of the Sphinx, promoted to en-
gineer.
Kr. W. 0. Stone has been nominated to a enrol cadetship.

DIETZIDLITION or NAVAL Pit= MONlT.—Notice
im Hiroo in last night'. Gazette that preparations an now
beim made for the intended distributios of the slave and
tonere bounties of she slave torque Lyra, or our un-
known, captured on the 29th of October, 1864 by her MA-
festy'a ship Ranger.
WooiwicH, MARCH 27.—A eonaiderable number
of artisans will be discharged to-morrow frees the Royal
Aremessl, and pending the settlement of the question at to
the merits of various descriptions of rifled ordnance, a
liege indention will shortly take plane in the Arartroog
gas fact/mac
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