The Express.
London, England, 1852-06-12 00:00:00

PETITION Pl

MILITIA BILL —Bj the Earl of ALBEMARLE. frogs
Swansea. against.
TIIE COMMITTEE OF PRIVY COUNCIL EDUCA-

TIONAL GRANTS.
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE wished to ask the noble
earl at the head of the gmeramist wheal, my minute had
been agreed to by thesarsilnlfpig semen effecting
any Mendel in the peat Mir MN parliament for
sestimst psemgs.
TrilledidDEßßY said a sinste had bees egresd to in
wahrimim bet the timer kg set yet bees smiled,
whimbirsdi isielhetrmeseisrlim
leremillesim=
ea id set wpm, le rube erry
dierim me dem* bet ft tem
Noah with mpg oillook, which Mire admit
Wright he inleliimilltilasf ether words in tbersimp-
-4110 *WM I ire MOSIONI mf those words, at the eplies if
Ito
`Mph Me ale f Medi set ibiredify them front receiving thee-
receiving
_ Tip Marque of LANSDOWNE said, that what r-
ims! him to put the question was that the alteration.
which had been described oa high authority to be as irm•
portent alteration, had been proposed at such a time. •
few days ago a vote bad been proposed in the other bowie
of parliament for applyin g public money to the continua-
tive of these grants; and it had Area uniformly the pros-
tier when say material alteration was made to lay It Meow
dirtily before parliament. And he must confer that he
thought it was deeply to be regretted that the altemMisw
whit* had been stated to be an important one, steed
not have been coromuoicated to parliament, or that
there was say intention to make such alteration.
at the Intawst when the other house was called ea M
provide for that portion of the public MT, id* which
WM so provided fee, we doubt, on the esetvietisei that we
such alteratioa was meditated. He must say the ether Irene
had not bad the Fermi, which they direr beim bed
11.12 and hid • te Um of befog ishosed of the
mode is whit* messy they were wing me le be
tame
Earl of DERBY hoped the noble arrquis did sot
impute to her Matestre government that they bad been
actuated by any unworthy dearm of deluding ordeceiving
that or the other boiler of parliament. They had bad fre-
quent repress mations made to them, they had glee been
made to the noble marquis when he woe at the head of that
department. and which they Armen well tended In
justice on the part of members of the Merit of imbued
with regard to the stringency of the regulatiess, sad that
they wore sot Owed is • footingnheralty with other
denominations. He had never co his midst that,
in that teepee. the church of England bed mums te elm
pleas of the stringency of the eamsgerent dams% umd et
the earliest period possible for the gomorannet MrieweiMere
those dames they bod dose on, with a view to see—korryksi
in view the pied* of peter fairness and equality amend
different deetemlnalienw.sesistaining the principle of the
maaagemeet chinsee—mbaber it was sit musical to Mao-
ism some amendmest he meet well- founded -and
Millv• Jest emcee of madaint. They had set Is
the slightgt degree aired the elioties sememeasst dams%
let where liberty bed bees gives to 'dm ollosomisolloso
with teganl to the religious and need edseales of the
pie r, did not think the Chow* wee el Knees* w
naan unreasonable demand If they requested that the
ewer y which had been given to other desmainatioas
shield be enjoyed by them also. Ile gaits agreed with
the mere ramours declaration that it was the duty of
these engaged in ailininistemg these fends to give the
earliest balsematiosi to parliament of any alteraboa they
sight band to envy into effect. At the same time, he
=die noble marquis would set.. se tar as to as-
Mite the lams of the mMule were actually
.grades ammittee of gory semen itself that •
shield be reds, met of • Waste which lad
bees ea, but of a mints width wae about to be
to, (Wa Hear.) When the
Bid
alteration
a". par-
aM,agile shied be 141.111111:211411 it. It wa bsforean al-
teration dome amoniaa, but wily in this respect, that
=ad it wield have the ear of removing well
diserhastien es the part of members of the
dwelt el lingket• ef healing dissensions in the body of
that eltuseek, sod el boreasing materially the extent to
which the smnabmit dr March might profit be that aid
which was abided by the seuetry to all denominating',
and which he thought ought to be afforded to all with
equal liberality. (Hear. Iseer,)_
The Marquis of LANSDOWNE said the noble seri bed
entered at some length into detain, but had avoided the
question which he bed put to him, art bad by so mime
satisfactorily samara it. As to Me manner is which Mit
remoras of the sommires of the Privy Coma wend
affect the church of Bagbai he should be peepsted Is go
into that quietism. sad Mem that the dumb if Ljiaed
was mom advanimgessely diger ate thee per
any giber reeper, any eileestion is the ismegssisst
clan.. te the dune of Ireland 'must be arssied
with ushetanate comegnesses, making absentions
▪ easerr y in the esaditioss ansessi r the
pests Is ether mete. Ent be wired drawly to
ampler that the ode pearl Obis emsamint_wse tint rim
of the semsehme ot Privy Omni" Ind been va-
lid en the softest, end the rode out itimasitled
elatemi t subjer had lees remora, mar esedier-
sties eines the appraiser of the sew ....NM., mod
whoa the noble earl sprite of the Mpernme of onfolos this
alteration, both Mtn and after be SIM ire ISM be
OM firers of Immlowne) somplared that true mart.
Mgt bed fern dinged to pm and UM the emeddimemies of
the metier was =known to W guide up to Ihe ire Mies
the vote had been obtained. (Cheers.) And be sass more dis-
tinctly stated that there had been an math& mate at any
time poised by the committee of Privy Cessed while be
had the hamlet., be connected with it, which had set been
comandeated to parliamest before the yule if mobile
nosey was inked for.
Earl GREY would be glad to know whether it was in-
leaded that this sherries should take sleet with
regard to the make/ mosey which bad jut bees voted,
or whether it wan to be preepectin for mother year
If the sable lord wished to Mbar to what bad Maser
bees the raetre, bis mune was simple mewl : the
Hewes a Mawr bad set erred their sometime of
aepply, and the astral and theism inns to be takes, if
the noble sail Mild to keep primmest idernisd of the
meaner in whisk the mom wee m be applied, wend have
Ares to ohs this eels use the ethane bad Mw prim/,
and is the rearisis amempleteAs miner if ememmi,
sad Is boy It la the tale ofthebem_edimg ribs
:elbeim sis ere was pima thiseller, said the
emel obit*, be meant that Ste wl bad jigt
loses mode shield be Me mime mei
ui regdiese Irish Me =of Is
Ognmmss,
merry,_
_bdiesed bo be be twee, set Eh* tab=
The NM of NW did maw
emir te bees sad
ea to ester hale • dinumiss tbis scaler bees the neer
which bean items is Mr by the noble rings& lie
Ins sett
ee all abb ft dale the raider Vise et she
par
.st 'bleb impaled ng Wits lis mit I but If be
wes nut .....hadtx,..ea. Mint imponsall allow
time sad &diem bed boon MSS Wby the Ns. :
mitre ef edseatiss glies redid WNW by the ad* rim
yds, bad hem brow lie isms ripedisment, end sure-
=the pripil Orga memehd Imes
, Is bed m amis. Met dwell =it
Milder Smile Medea m ts iM potpies kr lira the
Srbe4Lbessyestleil rib Isere
mermcy= tor dr mite
with Ws eltemoil espie lleas
have boi ton oppieb if yesmosadng
es the meager orinesleneyof Ihe silhentiss.

POITAL ABSAlsfftE>tEllTs WITH FRANCE.
Tito Ilmweis et CLUMICARDII pat a gang= with
roped se e peal siethwommes Wenn osuatty sal
Freese. ththilaybed iththerse tie repeat= sthish be led
thole la WO te the Flew& opmemmeth led loth reamed,
es whether say .gulls.. IMO sill in with nee
11•09 &NM
TM Eat et ZAIDIVICKE sellibet it wield, as death,
be is the advents.' el both emorise that a ridaslisa
sheall be awls i the posed m
be die= Tyldsfellawh
shish led beta ale hid bee
WM" sad he bad meth meta to seppesethetV"—emalli
le salsa ewL Male the math seem* bed bll WEN
Ile Fseashitheseament had lathed that the •
_weal* Isles
Et mast thee their mathiseallsw. sal be Awl that be-
thee hag it wadi be head Ewe tbs bel sired Is it.
TEANSATLAJITIO FACEITS.
The Earl se DIM, le Earl CAIVOOI, said
As as pest wish teseil bsa with respset to •
themilleatin mist stadia whims tbe tallest seasiders-
Ilia Clothe them se the deism et 11111041weee.
TEI CLAIM OF TIE SAWN Di BODE.
Lod LTEDROAST mewl :—" them enlist sammities
he maimed le *Wm thee the ~ems et the Ewes de
as tln yeithew" Ile mid that. MS NOW eirethethasei,
the sem W smased a may= Ibleta it wee la Jr/
sas
▪ etherwiliZe bolad tikilidt Wiz ass their
theism. Etat be was saes they would et Leidy alba tea
..essay Owe ire how the seer. The widths •
S. night be Otafillit shriert • els& itesiewee. The
them le aide wan a Width whist Hi pemmeM a kw
property Is Frame; that primly Ism mwdetheal byes
remincaeary posmiumat .1 Fraser. At tho Ems
et the poem 1116 there the treaty be.
;wen the aims of thanes sad Via.:
et this seestrb by whish • Wipe N. it raw
was paid over to S. British wesernateat the the
parpwet giving indsmsaig whets yeepasty bad alai lOW
by the rerolatthwey penewmeth e( 7—. w • as
aidssable_ parties a Ere inembeed sir mapped..
110. ..stash. es a bathe bal
senewsial W tho Ftwase. allied Cr:
Amadei ash et dm rowels, et the path by Or
=mew et Francs to the gemenment et .sassy the
Meths as this ere 111115 r Si bessaltel,
ley
a Ves7'whedies and misemeallandmes of die seest
parmarthery Wm lapdog la ebleitleg Mims Esse
=Saadi dolts meatry. is A. maim Ito bad hem
his saleathere is obtain robes by maims NNW
smiths ea the ether Mese perlimmeth Amt e% am
set by the anxiety sal di esppidement i ass
Ws .6104 is• bast sank Amy Was grave; and
bo itemaiimid kis Mahn is the mew pet 4
*NM bie Ma. Mir, and poeseml rsthossatative.
He awed )
Isea
theme is their besithip' been
mina they ail Nair la
wbkb thsasseo
Ware lie thall albeneseds
le kiss dm iheir an
sheath bays Mae se last amiss bat he the rnda l
mike whisk be ithsserel, atbsr seem awathor,
than thee awls aymmis. he Mt Marl to OM IL Ile

noble lord then entered into a detailed statement of the sass
and the various measure. taken for Ito segkismit, gad in
conclusion contended that the Treasmy were hound 4 isesm
mos justice and honesty to ref iV the mosey which they hat)
received. (Hear, hear.) Dun the piece's el the ease, a'
learned gentleman stated that it was a ilisgrece to the
country and to every ono in it ; and that he would
"ell the coat off his leek rather than be subject to such an
imputation. (Hear, hear.) That burst of indignation was
remised with just applause, and he (the noble lord) felt
quite Si strongly, although he was not capable of express.
ieg himself with the same force. (Loud cheers.) The noble
anquid learned lord concluded by moving fur a committee of
in ry.
The Earl of DERBY had listened to the statement of the
noble and learned hied with pleasure. Seldom had his
noble friend in his best days delivered a statement with
such force and with such complete command of the 'minutest
circumstances of the ease, although he had been unassisted,
as their lordships would have observed, by a reference to a
single note. Seldom had the cause of humanity—he would
not add of justice, lest he should seem to prejudge the case
—but seldom had the cause of humanity and of national
honesty been placed before them with more eloquence,
and with arguments more forcible, or in a meaner
more calculated to win their admiration. (Cheers.)
There was no noble lout on either aide of the house that
would not bane been delighted to find his noble friend's
mental powers so unimpaired, and his high lease of the
national honour maintained with as much warmth and sin-
cerity aa hey were in his younger days. It was now
24 years since he (the Earl of Derby) had taken upon him-
self to bring the wrongs of the Biron de Bode, the father
of the present petitioner, before the other house ; but many
of the circumstances had faded from his memory, until
had been revived by the speech of the noble sad
lord ; and it would be wasting their lordships' dim if be
were now to enter upon a diaeresis* of the matter, *MUM
were able to do so. 'There would, however, be hat one
feeling on the subject, namely, that after the mammal
they had heeled from ;soh an nalberity, there ought le be
a searching inquiry into the saes. (Hear, thee.)
At the present &demand state et the wades,
however,
it would he very death' whether Inaa leguip math
be made, bat if the noble In
be It le ►prom- le the-
lion he should be he hem ~mg it any ',piles.
(Hear, hear.) If that mammas, should even be able le
make a report this melee he hoed there tenth net be
mach dimmed= in the etbse Mere r roped with gay pi-
etas, hew may demised handed Mil s repset ; but
be bruited that if such a report aheW mbetantiate the ease
of the Biros de Bode, no laps, af fima. se technicality, sad
no
sem of the ineenmeisses of however large
that
t might boorewid perraet tbe an the arhis raaway et lei just eingatiene (Lead sh p een.) If `
tame
commas, druid these to a dear awl midenbling emir
nee, upon medmisble fact., that this gentlemin had I.
Min ftulV. sad morality a urea the nation,
be (es%the re -mid) timeed that war the erreethy nee lbe
Reuse &
ef Omnenens mull refire to oneselath libeemily the
Rush OnMelled In the sentiments taprooms'', the
nimble earl, but be mould net help entertainiag sense sinless
doubts se to whether the egpeimement of a emmenilles of
that house we. the thew meth ef
_at a ilethlen
ea thishithietipmetien.
theaissW, net hie
their le divide. but when geseden of the ap-
pointment • stensahles came beim them be should say,
no-s-mestest. (Rear, hear.)
Lad LYNDHURST hogged leave to remind the sage
earl that the ere bed mestmed se esti:4y new shape within
the lest MN pate, ea ameseat of the two theosseive verbose
which boppiesiarmesed ape. it. (Hear, inar.)
Rut expressed her surprise that the
noble lord skesli haw apposed • soothe for inquiry into a
esee insole's' anther mrou nor less this the honour of the
country. (Chem.)
After a few were frees Lord MorresoLe and Lord
LYNDIIUMT,
Lord TRURO supported the motion. There was not
now in reason tease, or justiee a single fart in dispute in
th;s ease. Alstiedy move than 200,0001. of the money proved
by the jury es be la the bands of the Treasury had been
but that was sot to affect this ease. Baron de
t=lit
urged his claim before every tribunal where he
had the remotest chance of redress, until the public was
tired of hearieg the name. lie thought government would
do it's!: linear in consenting to the appointment of this
ethenitter.

After a welds hem Lord HAIM/WON is support,
The modem was agreed to.
METROPOLITAN BUILDINGS BILL.
This bill passed through ossamittes.
BILL.NSION SCHOOL SITES EXTENSION _ _

Oa the ores of the day for going into committee on this
bill.
The Bishop of OXFORD rid this bill war seedy
carry cos step further the legislation which had hoes
going es kr several yeses, to praise the inks a
school kiss for the etheetio• of dining* die of the
agemassity. He pewee to arm prise to sell, kr
• eihrhie asedeatiga too ergs of lead, gri te enable
esdeeketkal oseperstiese to great, with the alai of the
iiressa, two area of id. fish the send der et eisk
which were for proem who had pored air the soi-
ree , and were prepig Dr hely is% to grad a
year
Tie Mt! Iva gesitege, threV.
rents wed by e right rev. prelate being agreed the
m to.ood-
-81111111NDER OF CRIMINALS (CONVENTION
WITH FRANCE) BILL.
Os the gear of the day that the Pass go into coranit-
tee as is
I The lad of MALMESBURT aid that the big
road p tele asszaittee ou this IA gad explained ear
ansimilasses whir be had peeped a girt le the hew
he elellillen • VaWIN••••11.11 add b• ems up la El
Peen r Bey; het eke Peen& goaresest mold ho
WNW gab the seigniors is the hi whir
r riiiPpeZeosil to keelson is soninee. The
bed palms:
Ages aseereirals reins, le the farther el
lie Ma/V are ger Met. Ile yelper that dr
▪ sifts Aeon sot lowa his weir for the iris of
any seemed Fiadeasat sail there we nesenaMe SWIM ID
sapper his Mork to be redgebted ; hat es no aslant
shear be be reassitered te doe Freer pareinent oar
peel rigida lad
F been gives. lb thee pergied rgive
aiding
_pieta to pail pen al le ell GlsAka the reak Oa' ledri preared that •kw
ikons le ewe sherd be pawedif is France. The ark
art eremite ilk& hat they did not beer in
the big* of the Pia seversrest it we of so see to
ester We a asides ge an. They cost have sone kith is
ewe grimrpia The asitlea said sot be pat in ratios
▪ be eget speed.
Alta • low wards is dr Zest of Mum,
Lad CAMPBELL gegpelol the withdrawal of the bill,
and the raking of a new arestios to be ratified by an
et
gf priest. All lrsilks &Seri eight then
ill=y di aid Ma • =MOW Pernel as word ho ra-
te
After sere iligeariss,
Eagrral GRANVILLE . (who epee with his bar to
the asit wee on
irodilik) pa a detail ef the
alp W bees ion while ho wee I. meanhe tarry-
ing est Ike_ thle bIL was eadneleed le egry
that he to theVte
reset
had
bees rafted rte
It boon it the
semi SIM girl ho seaspiried gess ..at of
-at ar re din Zs Ed net awe the
:=llilt seise pia
11181:116 Ng away; gad an le be
tin Est dui Wisps' roe set gadder ea the pais
el kiss re eller el gene eibi• 12Wase. seggered
it the MN gird ha sinerleit sod
Leal CSANWOBTS geld le w astir ray by a
lies rare to make the hi ears& The midi of
the Asir tasty, apied essh pate( the die
r wed* waist the' essesaint et the piety k this
easstry bait ho egs gas ac hod of 11•11011ansied it
isoperaths. How wee die to be rsHii f 3 sopirisi
esagthingts be tomilthod to re Eigestery oflabe doge
ins the preeedkp
_bed Von k liege advise
to ere passidkplsree • ors. It bad bogs add
that we ail be emit with a slim serierni Weft
were • peesnedieg "hie took phi ease as in
perm di re pry sherd Ire pat sa itl
eridesti hot
has
bo sealegeor
kind
depiess hams& The eight be gene kind
eldielks vested fa the deseetary of its. (Near, hear)
Uri weigir mni=Mst dee treat y to give up
curer ft bed a resoda if set he-
tie • SOW (Seer, hat.) The gene illeggelles
right to ho Aka are Fish gevierei As the bill
=yoga be epos to am pima end issially
rigs • pry was air es • eerie gime, it
alio be age fee gin enseedy on
Lord ItialiONT said the bill did sot is reality vary
out the inatien The Pia eipveransat were esly
required keg " flies be hood doe ire 114
bat daft wee the ea
robins ides rthat
w edieene Is die %emery
erne The agglelgi wee are to ac et
t Sestately
y ; he. hod ne dkiselige t nor had the Bearetary
of isle p whim to step the yeesteilii or
reit the pay belettildi wad up.
The Nolsaya ef ewee
air sew.
n
Lad NEAUMONT ire cid set hi Ibsen
erodes be the gesition *NO it wee It ho
gear thaw the stases of the bill wege algreT they
be of se lie erne they idea sat the essides whiel
w
will Is the preeik. Hs head the bill would set
be peessiod Irk
Is re genre ef farther
Lord CAMPBELL esatoried that verosable peer
should be gives of the ogeirion of resift with whir
the party degraded Need ehargood. It hey pre ter the
Frame pianist the dght demi every lir
cities% Me site, ward se tenger be ea.seylent.
lard iIIOUOICAId
id:at a pure facie ore of
pet girl be rade sea the extradition.
The net of AIIIIRD that if the Fish go-
veriest imp with the lei
red
lbw
hal
and raniwart pi that lly
b* party asesied =
an set Medi woke the kw of this sift wail be rind.
na4 he ward he ghee sp. There was se seemag there-
in, for this - - - -

fiadwl of DWT riallsial dosage easi tbat baled
bisetlf, la leaf. alailtesi Ho hiallisitaay of the wades
Tfa esaysalisa woad le Imam
laam Nis! ioritet.

I.arseever be thelsst Bite AtheaDes;,
The 'eel et DERBY said that ems et the ainesieNthe
pretheed le be inserted hi the WU wee, that any
esaveththe it ebothaties that wig* be eetered ithe
M endareil the the wpm elle set as pert der alp
Oki surristies.
TM NM if AMIN= posolW that the QM teethed
the eestheteles sod weaseled Is emir, It oat. It ma
ingeeeMtthe dos te eyes ti • semsalies thee bed set yet
bees asi law

...--
..
if LordillEi ONT taidg the view of the cam. The
gads o ing provided btl sold* lord walla My
Irisb way elation.
The Eye ERBY lidd the aatsenliwa had reitidved
-the sat' two eneansaire goverment', and had been
metered to with the French government is 0 most ami-
cable manner. It had received the searev.tl of the most
eminent statesmen and lawyers on both aides of the cheese! ;
bet temewhat he had be that night ha wail afraid that
it they had half a doyen sew ecteveutions they would all in
objected to. Ile relayed, however, to say, la spits of the
noble baron (Lord Beaumont) that their lordships had
nothing to do with the eonventlig. (Hear, bow.)
The Earl of ABERDEEN Witted that they amid not
lthan
egislate except ea a oonventiat that was already before

TT; LORD CHANCELLOR rid that the proposed pro-
vie. was le Maio her )(sleety to eater into a Inpnleasen-
eery tread lawaskevaity with the bill. It word not la
the It kreehee with their power.
The earadrear woe thea weed le. dad the bill, bay-
ing gene theeesk ouredree. wee eriteri to be reported 06
ThMagliellitiamatiel Does Bill was repereL
The Fakir Werke Bill, and the ladeetrial add Provi-
dent Societies Bill were read a third doe sad pared.
A nurbtr of private bills were thin adverted a rap,
and their lordships adjourned at &quarter par elm

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—FatoAT, Jura 11.
The Brzaisa took the obeli at 12 o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.

The Lords' iii;aendriieristlikirlpwieh Dock, and
South Eastern and Reading, Guildford, sad Reigate Rail-
ways Bills were considered and agreed to.
BILLS Ila•D • TIIIRD Tutu AND PASSED.—Chelsea
Waterworks; Tees Conservancy Bills.
SECOND RZ•DlNOs.—Gedling's Estate ; Leith Exchange
Building Bills.
PUBLIC BUSINESS.

PETITIONS

INTIXTZILA;4;I:::iy Mr. L. HEYNORTH, four peti-
tions for inquiry into the causes, practices, and consequences
at Wampum's; ma bum 4,964 members of Temperance
Ilsoistiss M mina pails of die United Kingdom ; one from
'mesa Walden; are tram Peel, Isle of Man; one from
Bethnal, Northumberland.
OcIAN PINNY POSTAOI.—By Mr. S. CRAWFORD,
from Rochdale is favour or.