The Express.
London, England, 1863-03-17 00:00:00

THE EXPRESS. IiTESDAY‘ EVENING, MARCH 17, 1863.

retorted to the deep interest which we had to the rod go.
'turnout of that country, and Mien stated that the Greeks,
by the «latest 1111SUIM0114 otter of their throne to hien,.
Alfred, had evinced their medium to look up to England for
guitlauou aud protection. But he n,gretted to bud himself
compelled to add that is his opeeios the cionduct of
her Majesty's government *amnia Greece throughout
the recent transactions had been neither just nor
poem* and that their &Mous and insincere
policy Wbeen productive 'eV great injury • to
the Greek people. The noble earl the Secretary of
Suite for Foreign Affairs had at the outset very properly
communicated to the governments of Frases sed Russia
Ins belief that the reigwng families of this!, powers were
excluded by protocol from lug right to furnish a candidate
for the vacant throne. &it Mr. Smitten ada Mr. Elliot.
the diplomatic agents of this country I. Greece, acting oo
doubt upon instructions received from the noble earl,
had virtually supported the candidature of Prince
Alfred. and had thus contributed to, deprive the
Greeks of the support of the other powers. After wash* of
isrucnoltination, however, it wu unmated on the pert of
her Mallet'', government that under no circomstarosts
would her Majesty allow Prince Alfred to accept the offer
of the Greek throne. Then came the mndidature of the
Duke of Saxe. C,oburg, which, after nnother period of delay
and mystery, had ended in a similar disappointmeet to
Greece ; and the people of that country were thus reduced
to a state of the most extreme difficulty and embernus•
meet. For his part he regretted that Prince Alfred was
not allowed to accept his election to the vacant sovereignty.
He hoped, at all events, that fresh deceptions were riot in
store for the Greeks, and that if they bad been promised
the Josue Islandsthstprounse would be fulfilled.

Mr. GREGORY mid he had followed the observations of
his boo. friend with much attention, and with that portion
of them in which he regretted the present untoward state
of Greece he (Mr. Gregory) entirely concurred. Ile also
sympathised entirely with those generous aspirations that
his hoe. friend had expressed with regard to the future of
Greece. But the sentence in which his hon. (rased
had uttered those aspiration concluded with an ex-
pression of the wish that Prince Alfred had
been permitted to aseeod the throne of Greece. Having
regard, however, to the interests of this country and af
G., ace, he (Mr. Gregory) thought t.ist nee bislcst)'• go-
vernment had taken the right come. (Hear, hear.) to-
ilet...ad/esti, of those considerations rebidb were contained
in Earl Russell's despatch on the position of Prince Alfred
as r. gaoled the crown of Englan 1, we could not shut our
eyes to the fact that jealousies m art have nine from his
acceptance of the throes, that ompheatioos of a grave
diameter might have arisen, that an example might have
Aeon given for thrones to have bom ocroni..l hv. ave. end
to have been made for, future royal. and perhaps imperial
princes, and a most dangerous precedent might have been
established. He maw no reason why Greece should not have
her grandee idle as well as France or Italy. If the Greeks
aspired to Constantinople for their capital. and to &Sophia
for their temple, he trusted they might ultimately succeed ;
but he hoped they would obtain that extension of territory,
not by violence, oppression, or intrigue, but 'by giving an
example of good government, which would make the sur-
rounding countries naturally gravitate towards them.
Mr. MILNES doubted whether his boo. friend had dose
good service to the Greek cause by diverting the question
into a Turkish one. (Hear) rhe Greeks had given the
best prod of their capacity for self-government by direct.
ing, in the present crisis of their fate, their emegies to in-
ternal affairs and abstaining from foreign aggression. He
believed that the foreign policy of the government was
founded on the best and *merest intimation. towards Greece,
but the issue had not been as successful as the intention
was good. They showed their interest in Greece, but he
doubted whether they treated that country with proper res-
pect in leaving her to be dealt with eatitely by diplomatista.
Why should she not establish herself on a municipal basis,
and continue, at least for some period, a republican form of
government? If she did. be believed she would acquire a
high position. It would be a hard and a strong test;
but let her succeed in doing Una and the time
would conic when primal would not think it
unworthy of them to become chief magistrate of
such a state. and to take part in the future destiny of such
a people. lie regretted to say that hitherto the mercantile
classes of Greece, with whom it was impossible to compete
in the commercial cities of Europe, had refrained from
exercising oo behalf of their own country Eat energy and
Intelligence of which they were constantly giving proof.
and which enabled them to take back to their own country
the wealth of which they were possessed. Lel cot the
Greeks go about Europe for merely nominal sovereign as a
symbol of foreign protection. He pmfoune(y regretted
that by the conditions of the protocol they were prevented
mating Moire of each men as the Doke of Lenchtenberg,
Priem Napoleon and the Duke of Cambridge. (Hear.)
Mr. LAYARI) defended the policy of tbe government
in reference to that question. They were precluded by
the engagements into which this country had en-
tered from allowing an English prince to accept the throne
of Greece ; and, on the other had, it was impossible'
foe them to prevent the Greek people from putting forward
any candidate they might think proper. He believed
that the moderate course which the British government
pursued in Eastern Europe was the beet calculated to pro-
mote the real interests of the Greeks themselves, and at
the same time to melanin the pone of the world. Gomm
'odd sow devote herself to the development of her re-
sources without the apprehension of any foreign aggression;
and it should be borne in mind that the Mahomedans in
Europe could not be expected to surrender the territories
they at present occupied without a struggle, which would
most y be attended with the greatest calamities.
Lord J. MANNERS said he had saver known a debate
which had wandered no moth from the subject before the
house, and he would endeavour to meths himself to it.
If the Turkish government would pay attention to their
comrnerm, discharge their debts, and respect the rights of
their neighbours, they might be left done. The question
which the home had to discus. now war—had the conduct
of the Em.l government been straightforward and honest
and calculated to maintain the dignity of England and
the tranquillity of Eastern Europe? He was prepared to
contend that the English government had failed
ia these particulars. In his opinion the cession of the
lonian Islands was a most impolitic measure on the part
of England. Looked at from an English point of view, it
was giving up a valuable and impotent naddernmsen sta-
tion ; and in the eyes of Europe it was the abeam-
meet of a trust which had been edema, imposed and
fairly accepted. AA to the safeguards proposed, they
would not, in the case of an European ferment, be worth the
paper on which they were written. In all the nonagon.
dense which had passed on this important subject he mold
not is. that a word was said about the parliament of Ear
land. There bad been a case of the kind occur before. in
1708, when a *sanction having been perfected by the
government, was afterwards conosiled by the parliament.
If this cession were carried oat, Corfu would certainly become
the centre and swims of a succession of send-piratical ex-
peditions menet Epirue and Themaly, and p refuge for all
the troublesome and revolutionary spirits of satire Europe.
Perhaps the beat solution of the difficulty would be to con-
fer the crown of Green on the noble Secretary for Foreign
Affairs, when the sew kimdoes would obtain a model of a
coastitutional monarchy,aod Regisad wouldloee for a time at
lean the envier of the most oda the most impulsive, and
the neon meddlesome of all her minister.. (A laugh.)
Mr. H. SEYMOUR defended the government, and ceps.
daily Lord Russell, In their adherence to the protocol of
1830 e A more energetic action ought to have been
takes with the Turks since 1866. They ought to have been
told in peremptory Impose that if they did not make the
reforms they had sopged to moth, out they must go. He
rejoiced that the government had taken the coarse they
had done with regard to the lonises Islands, sad he should
' rejoice to see them united to Greece. That would be the
binds's* of the solution of the Turkish question.
HENRY SCOTT said the guidon was—whether
government had pursued a straightforward course in this
water; and it appeared to him that they had not. If they
had actually athoonced to Greece that Prince Alfred was
sot to booms king, this unfortunate imbroglio would mot
have arisen. It seemed to him that her bfejeely's govern-
ment had been actuated marebyadesiretoprevest theDoke
of Leuchtesbarg being King of Greece tins to have a king
elected. It was a Very unworthy parition in which to place
Prince Alfred, namely, that of a "stubble" candidate to
provost the eleatioa of a Russian. (Rear, hear.)
Mr. D. GRIFFITH complained of the vacillation and
uncertainty which had characterised the policy of this
country towards the Ottoman Empire—at one time making
a point of maintaining its integrity, at another allowing
the jpgdom of Greece to be formed oat of it ; and thee
refinilig to allow that kingdom to them provinces so indis-
solubly connected with its easiest history and most glorious
anociatioes, that it cooldaever see them easteatedly severed
from it.

Mr. CAVE was glad to hear the premier grate
lately that be was not about to abandon Gibraltar or
Malta ; but it must not be forgotten that the table lord,
in 1861, used precisely the same leaguers with regard to
the lonian Wands, which now the government were willing
to give up. He (the boo. member) looked epos the future
of Greece with more hope than be looked to that of Tur-
key, bat at the same time be admitted the Logan Islands
were sot of such value to Eoglaed as they were before the
introduction of Noun, @wee with regard to our lodise omit-
-1111110i0141/011.1, and especially sham the exteesioe of railroads
ia Italy. Bat a rapture with Frame or Italy would make
the route by Trieste, and oenseqnsatly the possession of
Corfu, of great impertusee. (Hear, hear.) The fortifica-
tines woes of oresidereble strength, sad in the days of Col-
lingwood, when far weaker Shea at present, kept at bay •
whole British squadron. The islands involved • foe-
Womble annual expense, and placed us in • some.
what false position, bat they could not stood alone. Their
manifest destiny was Greece, for Greek they were, and he
should not object to use them belong to Greece ; but it must
be to • well governed and tranquil Greens, and they most
sot be used as • sloppier-stoop to sumesioo oo their neigh-
bours. °MOO Mid prove that eke could govern live cities
barge she could claim to be invested with tea. (Hear,
bear.) We had done the converse. He believed the ex-
pease of the lonise lalaods might be greatly lammed ; but
however that might be, be felt the truest sisoncene au cur
part wee the maintenasee of the eatioeal character, and
that by this prectipitericy we were acting inconsiderately
towards our allies, and would gain neither the gratitude of
Greece nor the good °plaice of Europe. (Chem.)
Mr. CLIFFORD said the people of the !mien Islands
might be divided into two elasess—thone who had got places
and Wes who wanted places. He bad lately received •
Utter from Corfu, Informing hias that when the news of the
proposed series of the islands arrived, an inhabitant es-
dakaed, " What demon has Inspired the English rovers-
meat 10 entertain so herrn& an idea!' Inferneast
the. waked, " How is it that yea have diametric:ly etwased

ipiaiosr The repkr cb.rmingii
lump a plaa• now, but I wAated a plate 'formally."
(LAugbter.)

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Lord PALHEItSTON-Sir, I owe that when the hoe,
member who mad* this motion gave notice of his intention to
Wing it forward my curiosity was greatly excited to coe-
ditor and to discover what could possibly be the
ground upon which he would found an attack upon
her Majesty's government foe its conduct with
regard to this affair of Greece; and oertaioly the
result of hi* speech has shown that whatever talent
he possesses-and 1 give full credit to it-that even his
ingenuity, and that of those 1140 have followed him, have
been very much at fault to find say tangible point upon
which they could rest soy real attack. They have Leen
INoral in their personal abuse of my noble (need at the
Heed of the foreign department. (Oh, oh.) That conduct
-the able conduct of our foreign relations by my noble
friend-is sufficiently well known (o the radio to make him
perfectly indifferent to those personal attacks made upon
him in the course of the evening-(cries of " hear, hear,"
sod "oh ") ; -and if anything, judging by some of the
observations and assertions which have been recently made
in regard to the casket of persons is the looiau Islands,
who an described as only attacking the govern.
ment when they want place-judging that to be as
generally applicable to mankind as to the Joann
Islands-(a letrgb)-if that be no, I think the refiection of
that remark will make my noble friend more indifferent
than ever to such personal attacks, or to any of the observa-
tions which have been made in the course of this evening.
(Hear, hear.) As far as I was able to collect from what bee
fallen from hoe. gentlemen opposite, I think there are one
or two things which have grievously weighed on their muds,
sad excited bitter regret and disappointment The fist is
that the Greeks should have exhibited so universal • desire
of electing an English prince. (Cries of "No, no.") I will
show it, bemuse one attack which has been made upon the
government is, that we did not tell the Greeks, and let
them know that by our diplomatic engagements and con-
siderations of our own, Prince Alfred could not accept tie
crown of Greece. (Laughter and cries of " No, no.")
Bat those who made that objection were compelled
by the papers in their hands to acknowledge that at the
earliest possible moment we did let the Greeks know that
our diplomatic engagements and our own imperial considera-
tions would prevent him from aceepting the Greek crowo.
But then they said, " You did commit • most egregious
fault, because when you had told the Greeks that Prince
Alfred could not accept the crown if elected, and when in
spite of that communication the Greeks went on with •
full determination to elect him, hoping, as they avowed
themselves, that In spite of the first refusal, yet that if
elected by the unanimous vote of the Greek nation this
objection on the part of the British government would sot
avail,"-then they mid " You actually told your minister in
Greece that he was not to interfere in the Greek
elections." Well, that is indeed an offence. (A laugh).
What then, would they have had Mr. Scarlett
and Mr. Elliot to go about to all the Greek hustinge and all
the assemblies where votes were to be given and say, "Now
mind, you are not to vote for Prince Alfred, but you may
vote for anybody else you please!" Why, if we had told our
minister to interfere in the Greek election we should have
been told it was most unbecoming and indecent to interfere
thus in the affairs of other nations. (Hear, hear.) We did
oar duty by taking the earliest opportunity of letting them
know what the decision would be if Prince Alfred was
elected, but it would have been gnus impertinence on our
part to interfere in the details of the election. (Hear, hear.)
The noble lord (Lord J. Manners) chooses to assume that
that meant we would sot interfere in saying whether the
election should be by ballot or by universal suffrage. No such
thing. Icould not coooeive anything so absurd as that. (Hear.)
What we meant was, that having told the Greek government
what the decision of the English government would be, our
minister was not to meddle or interfere in any manner as to
the mode in which they chose to express their opinion and
their votes. (Hear, hear.) I say I 'madonna:mil that boo.
gentlemen-Englishmen-should feel this sort of regret,
which they evidently feel, that the Greek nation should have
exprestred their coolidenoe-- (Cries of "No.") If it is not
Net, what is it they mean? What would they have had us
do? It is evident two thins weigh on their minds; first,
that the Greek nation should have bees permitted to express
an unanimous vote in favour of Prince Alfred-Wigs of " No,
no")-and secondly, that they should nabs allowed to sleet
a Russian prince. (No, no.) That is the oaly reeeluaion
to which I can come according to their argument. I
asy, therefore, that when hon, gentlemen amen we have
deluded the mike and brought them into • critical coedit..
Hon, I deny every one of those assertions. I say our course
was perfectly freak and straightforward from the beginning
Ito the end. (Hear, hear.) The Greeks knew perfectly
well what oar decision was, and what would be the result
of the election ; if they chose in spite of that to manifest
their confidence in the British constitution and their respect
and attachment to the royal family of this country, I say,
' instead of repining at that, as boa gentlemen sum to do-
. (zse, no)-they ought to be proud of it. (" Hear, hear,"
and " No.") They may nay "No" if they please. I say
the country), when they read this delete, will say
"Yes." (Hear, bear.) I say that, instead of repining at
the result, they ought to have been proud, and to have re-
joiced on an occasion which enables • nation, in the Nos
of all the world, to manifest their respect for England and
their admiration for our Queen. (Cheers.) Well, sir, it naiad
that we have neglected the Greeks, that we have not
taken pains to fulfil the trust they were kind enough to
repose in us in regard to suggesting to them • person fit to
be their sovereign. We have lost no time and spared no
pains. (Hear, bear.) We have communicated with several
distinguished persons, whom we thought lit to be selected
by Greece for the high poet of reigning over that people,
which, f
in spite of all that has been said, is, I say, a most
enlighteoid nation, and • nation destined to ries to high
distinction among the people of Europe. (Hear, hear.)
Bat thp very fact of the distinguished persons to whom
oar Peen** woe directed having been fit for the selection
involved also that they must be persons who had other
interests sod other occupations which might have pre
vested them from accepting the post if it were offered to
them. Bat undoubtedly we did from time to time let the
Greeks know that we were in communication with this
riziand that, and we were greatly mortified, en the
. were much disappointed, when it appeared that, ono
after another, those illustrious pares found themselves
prevented by local ties from acceptieg the offs, to be
put in nomination as the sovereign of the Greeks.
But I do not despair that we may. yet he able to point out
to the Greeks • person who may de competent to perform
the high dutim of reigning over that country, and who may
be acceptable to the Greek nation. Bot, undoubtedly,
most rest with the Greeks themselves to decide, because
we have sot received, as my hoe. friend supposes, that Dort
of full power from the Greeks to choose a sovereign for
them. They are to exercise their own choice ; and all the
British government can pretend to do will be to suggest to
them for their choice individuals who may appear
to be fitting on the one hand, and likely to accept
on the other. Sir, it has been said that the <Snake have
been reduced to • lamentable ocreffition. They are reduced
to no lamentable condition. (" Hear, bear," and laughter.)
The Greeks have shown great wisdum sad great moderation
-(hear, hear)-they have conducted • great revolution in •
'manner which does them high honour- (ben, hear)-then
have been no sets of violence, no popular outbursts ; they
have had great difficulties in arranging their provisional go-
vernment, but they have done it to the best of then judg-
ment, and nothing has happened to entitle any man to say
that their condition is miserable, or that they have suffered
in the opinion of Europe for the conduct they have
pursued under the cueumetanoes in which they have been
placed. It is the more meritorious on their pert, becalms
undoubtedly the government under which they have suf-
fered for the last 30 years has been calculated to degrade
sod demoralise them. (Hear, hear.) It has been • govern-
ment carried on by oorruptiou for the purpose of arbitrary
sad despotic nil*. (Hear, hear.) It is a governmeet upon
which • constitution was forced in 1843, but from that
moment to the last they endeavoured by every device and
artifice to render that eonstitution a nullity by mesas of
corruption of every possible description. This led
at last to the events of October. Bat when
people say that the Greeks an a nation so dif-
ficult to govern that you cannot find a prince
capable or willing to undertake the task, I say a nation that
for thirty yens has submitted without outrage to such a
t that which they have lately freed themselves
rre7enrwlesenc4 as
be difficult to sorer', and must be premed of
feelings of subordination and order which give rise to en-
couragement, and not discouragement, to those who may be
totake part in their affairs. Then, I really am at a
Ices to know what is the point on which the government
have to defend themselves. I say that from the begins*
to the endwe have been straightforward and (mak in our
language and declarations to the Greeks, and we have bee,
persevering in our efforts to find a prince who would he
willing to undertake the duty, and who would be seceptable
to the Greeks themselves. (Hear, bear.) We did not wish
the Due de Leuchtenberg to be on the throe* of Ore."
because as • Prince of the Russian family he was excluded
by the protocol agreed to between the treaty powen. It is
quite true, as my hoe. friend said, there was- I will speak
out-shorting and evasion on the part of the Russian
government-(bear, hear)-and it was with the utmost
fealty that we brought them to acknowledge that the Due
de Leueliteeherg was, as be is. a member of the Imperial
family-doubly • member, as a sou of the daughter of the
Emperor, and Mies by • ukase aggregated to the Imperial
family, and bought into the hoe of encoesuoe to
the Imperial mown. We had a right to have expected •
more straightforward spurge of conduct on the part of the
Russian government at the outset than that which we had
to =need with io bringing them to a frank and fair cate-
gorical admission that the Due de Leuchter berg was ex-
cluded by the protocoL Other topics have been brought
into discussion. My hon. friend the Coder Secretary Ms
berm taxed with having introduced the topic of Turkey, and
of the European provinces of Turkey. Sir, it was Dot my
hoe, friend who introduced that topic, it was my hon.
friend the member for Galway, who vagzoon broke
loose from Greece into the liar,
about , Rua*
and Turkey, and my hon. Mood following him, very pro-
perly set right errors into which he had fallen, and maintained
-aed I think, from my hoe. hieud's own pereseal knowledge
said local expeneses, so man le better entitled to express
an opinion-that Turkey, so far from being in that decrepid
state in which it is the &shirrs to some quarters to represent
' it, has. no the opener', of late years, made great protegee
newasda that state of <dynasties', which I
ith may ultimately arrive at-!bear, heart-mid thieer
whatever may be the nreNdmes which hoe. seethe.-
hose may entsetale, Ti is perfectly clear that edit.
Imam sad intelligeoes are spreading among the Turks
I their government is improviim, sad I tract their ergan
mams wills° oe .ademeelog from day to day. A. the
Oluistiaiss, no deal* there ere Imlay privileges sad p.a.

ties which as yet have cot beer conceded to them, but
they are much better off sow that they were at a former
period. Now, I will sot go into the siege of Belgrade, or
tight the batalsof those who threatened to fire upon the for-
tress, or who did not ; but with regard to, the question
which is no diiubt connected with the 'tibiae, in debate,
though it Mend been much alluded to by the hon. mem.
bet who opened the inquiry, namely, the cession
of the 100 ill" (Blend; the honourable member for
Nein. (Mr. Griffith) at great length argued
as if, first, the loain Islands qui been a possession of the
British crown, and next, as typir., in the course of Met
autumn, alienated Hone islands: Now. Met of all, they
are not a possession of the British mown—Omar, beer —and
in the cent place, though we have intimated to the Greeks
that under certain circumstances we will take pertain steps
which would lead to the annexation of those islands to
Greece, nothing, in point of fact, has been dons. (Hear,
hear.) Therefore the objection of the hon. member, that
we have surreptitiously alienated that part of the poems-
sions of the British amen whilst parliament was not sitting,
falls to the ground, because nothing of the kind has
been done. The bon. member for Shoreham (Mr. Cave)
mid, if 1 understood biro, that he was very much against
the cession of the islands ea was proposed. But he said
t hat, indeed, if the Greeks had a government which would
maintain eider within and pram without, and which would
render its people happy, then perhaps it might he well to
cede the islands to that government. But the bon. mem-
ber has only paraphrased in more words a passage in the
despatch of my noble friend, bemuse those were precisely
the conditions on which my noble friend said the British
government would be willing to take step* towards the
cession of the lonian Islands to Greece. The bon. member
began by stating a fret which he said had mime
to hi knowledge locally, to show that the lonian
Islands were anything but willing to part with
English protection, and to be emaciated with Greece. No
doubt, as Greece was under King Otbo, it would have been
• great misfortune for the people of the lonian Islands to
hare been transferred to Greece ; sod when we are told that
in 1861 we argued against the cession, it was because Greece
was so ill governed at that time that we felt it would have
bees really cruel to those Weeds to be accessary to placing
them under so bad • government as that which then pre-
vailed in Greece. But if Greece under a new sovereign
becomes a well.governed country, and regulates its policy
according to the principles stated by the boo. member for
Shoreham and by my noble friend in his despatch, why
then, possibly, it may be very likely that the feel-
ings of the declaim may be entirely altered,
and they may be desirous to be annexed to Greece. Then
the boo. member said that the annexation to Greece was
the manifest dcatiny of the lonian Weeds. Well, if that
be their manifest destiny, surely we are not to blame if,
seeing and acknowledging that manifest destiny, and be-
lieving that the time is approaching when that destiny may
be accomplished to their benefit and not to our logs, we
should be willing to contribute to ita sccumpliahment. The
boo. member said we shall be laughed at in France for
thinking of transferring the lonian Islands to Greece. Wall,
perhaps it a country which recently made such acquisitions,
and in such a manner, as Savoy and Nice—(cheers)—.e volun-
tary surrender of anything that belongs to na may be looked
upon ma • c.bildish piece 4' folly. (Hear, hear.) But I micoot
help thinking that the example, if we set it of principle,
and without regard to selfish considerations, of releasing •
population from ita role, from the belief that it would be for
the advantage of that population to be PO releaaed, may be
applicable to so many transactions pending in future in
Ecirope—(bear, hear)—that it may not only be honourable
to this °motel, but may perhaps be useful, sod lead to
great results in other parts of the world. (Hear, hear.) I
can only say, then, that I hope the hon. gentleman who
made this motion will beautified with having expressed his
own opinions. I hope he will be kind enough to with-
draw his motion, and let us go into committee of
supply, and I promise him that se time and the correspon-
dence goes on, when there areother papers of interest and
importance to the deliberations of the house, we shall have
no objection to lay them on the table.
Mr. S. FITZGERALD said that Greece was at present
involved in • state of anarchy ; her hopes and wishes had
been trifled with ; and an opportunity bad been lost of
conferring upon her a constitutional government. That
unhappy state of things was, be believed, to • great extent,
the result of the policy which had been pursued by her
Majesty's ministers. No one in this country regretted
that the offer of the Greek throne made to Prince
Alfred bad not been accepted. He felt persuaded
that the adoption of a contrary 0011110 would
have been fraught with embarniaseesnt to this coun-
try and with danger to the peace of Europe. Her
Majesty's government had, therefore, very properly an-
Neuwied at the commencement of those proceediop their
determination to decline that offer. Bat they had after-
wards caused a doubt to exist as to their intentions, and
they appeared to have employed the candidature of Prince
Alfred as • means of preventing the possibility of the elec-
tion of the Duke of Leuchtenberg. That was an unfair and
a disingenuous mode of proceeding ; and in their subesquent
attempts to procure the acceptance of the Greek throne by
King Ferdinand of Portugal and the Duke of Saxe Coburg
and Gotha they had betrayed a want of foresight and of
good management which had very much contributed to re-
' dues Greece to her present unhappy 000ditioe.
Mr B. COCHRANE said it was not his intention to
divide. upon the question. (Hear, bear.) Hs denied that he
bad said anything in disparagement of the Greek people, or
that he had expressed any regret at the offer of the Greek
throne to Prince Alfred. Oa the contrary he bad distinctly
referred to that circumstance as a compliment to this
country, and had given the Greeks the greatest credit for
the matter in which they bad conducted themselves =icier
great difficulties—difficulties which were increased by the
policy of her Majesty's government. (Hear, hear.)
The motion wee then, by leave of the house, withdrawn.

On the vote of 255,9931. for the expenses of medical
esteblialiment, services, and eupplie.
General PEEL drew attention to the state of the medical
department of the army, more particularly with reference
SO the paucity of candidates at the medical examination.
' Sir G. C. LEWIS said that arrangemects were to prqrress
which he believed woold be acceptable to the medical pro-
fession, and increase the efficiency of that department of
the anny.
The vote Ina agreed to.
On vote for disembodiedsmilitia. 751,0941.,
Colonel DUNNE urged the importance of providing for
the military Reetectioo of Ireland, either by extending the
time during which the militia are called out, or by making
a provisioollealngoes to the Eogli.b volunteer system.
Colonel DN'.HBON drew attention to the Inadequate fees
paid to the militia serious.
In 'sewer to Lord ENFIELD,
Sir G. C. LEWIS mid he intended to act on the suggestion
°Detained in the report of the committee presided over
by the noble lord, with regard to surge-cos io the militia.
The vote par then agreed to, as was also a vote of 94,1621.
for the yeomanry.
The CHAIRMAN then reported proms.

OONSOLIDATKD FUND (10,000,000 k) BILL.
Thin bill was rtad snooped time.
MUTINY BILL.

This bill was read r:;;oia
NAVAL COAST VOLUNTEERS ACT AMENTALEIT

BILL.

On the motion for the tilelTsading of this bill,
Mr. H. BERKELEY said that the bill enabled the
Admiralty to send the naval coast volunteers to any quarter
of the world, whereas in the existing act there was a stipu-
lation that they should not be sent a creator distance than
300 miles from our shores. Hs charactensed the bill as
vicious, and said that if it passed it would destroy the effi-
ciency of this valuable force, ou which the country would
have to rely for the protection of the coast. He con-
cduded by moving that the bill be read a third time that
day six mouths.
Lord C. PAGET said that it would be practically impos-
eloe to make use of these naval volunteers unless there was
some amendment in the law. Supposing, in the event of
war, a vessel manned by such volunteer, was chasing a
ship like the Alabama, the captain would not, under the
act of parliament, be justified in going further than 300
miles from the coast, and although he might be jest coming
up to her, be would have to stop when he had reached that
limit. The bill was entirely prospective in its operation,
sod no one would come older its provisions unless with his
consent. Under these cireunistanove he hoped the hon.
member would withdraw his ameridment.
The oil was then read a third time.
TRUSTEES ACT AMENDMENT (SCOTLAND) BILL.
This hill was read a second time.
METROPOLIS TURNPIKE ROADS ACTS AMEND-
MENT BILL.
This bill was read a second time.
HARES (IRELAND) BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
REIGATE ELECTION.

A letter to the Speaker wu teed, anoonocuwg that It wu
not the intention of the parties patitiossing spinet the re-
turn of Mr. Gower to proceed.
The house rose at half-past 12 o'llook.

THE LANCASHIRE DISTRESS.

CENTRAL RELICT T[l/CD.

The weekly meeting of the Ele.:utire Committee
of the Central Relief Fund was held at the Town-bell,
Mancbeeter, yesterday ; Sir J. K. SacTrtxworra, Bart.,
presided.
Mr. lineman, Hots Secretary, reported that the com-
mittee bad sent off last week 22 bales of clothing, two
hampers of wise, and five cases of provisions. The total
receipts last week had been 5,1891. The balance at the
bankers was:—General amount, 426,376/. 18a. 2d.; em-
ployment and school amount. 11,7221. 2s. 6d. Total,
438,1061. Oa. M. There had also been received that more
ins 1,0001. from Dublin • 16. W. from the British merchants
and residents at Rio Grade de Sal ; and 701. lls. 14. (third
instalment) from Pernambuco.
. . _

Mr. Con;massiooer FARIIALL presented the following re-
port : "My Lords and Gentlemen„—l beg to inform you
that on the 7th instant there was a decreue in the number
of persons receiving parochial relief 10 the 27 anions is the
cotton manufacturing districts, as compared with the
number so relieved in the previous weak, of 1,511 This
durum of 1,513 is explaioed as follows :—There is • de-
crease at Barton-upon-Irwell of 36, at Blackburn of 96, at
Bury of 173, at Charlton of 392, at Clithero of 8, at the
Pylde of 60, at Glossop of 5. at lisalingden of 31, at Lao-
caster of 47, at Macclesfield of 168, at Manchester of 999,
at Oldham of 49. at Preeton of 288, at Salford of 165, at
Warrington of 132, sod at Wigan of 47 ; making • total de.
crease of 2,605. But there is an increase at Ashton-nodes,
Lyne of 345, at Bolton of 71, at Burnley of V 39, at Gar-
sung of 57, at Leigh of 44, at Prestwich of 3, at
Rochdale of 312, at Saddlewortir of 1, and at Southport
of 50 ; maid • total increase of 1.182. So that
there is a set of 1,513 ; and since the 6th of
December but a total decrease of 58,276 has taken place.
Although, however, this decrease has taken place, it is
to be remembered that there are now 213,706 persons in
the receipt of parochial relief in the unions adverted to,
end that local committees of charity, resident is those
ulcers, are aiding 226,452 persons who are not In receipt
of parochial relief. waking a total of 440,150 persons
who subsist either on the poor rates or on charity ; while,
under ordinary circumstances, the total number of per one
receiving relief is about 50,1100. The total weekly cost of
out-eoor relief cm the 7th iost. was 14,1291. 9s. 51 ; and
the 150 local committees of chalky, in these unions,
are expending 22,786/. per week in relief also, Md.-
peodently of the cost of clothing and of incidental
expenses; total, 36,9141., while under ordinary cir-
cumstances, the cost of out.reliet per week is 2,320 f.
In the month et March, 1861, 21 of the Population, is
the unions adverted to, were in the receipt of relief ; now,
37 per cent. of the population of the Union of Ashton-
uodar-Lyne subsist either on the poor-rates or on charity ;
26 per cent. were in the same pceitioe at Blackburn, 21 per
aut. at Burnley, 2.1 per cent. at Bury, 25 per cent. at
Charley, 40 percent. at Glossop, 25 per cent. at Has.
Bogdan, 29 per cent. at Manchester. 21 per cent. at Oldham.
38 per cent. at Preston, 27 per cent. at Prestwich, 27 per
out. at Rochdale, 30 per cent. at Stockport, 26 per cent, at
Todmorden, and 19 per cent, at Wigan. The amount of
mosey in the heads of inseams of the 27 unions on the
7th inst. was 8.5,1371. 7*. 10d. In conclusive, I have the
satisfaction of informing you that the general health of
tha people is good.
'H. B. FluratA, Sf soul Commissioner."
- -

Oe the Motion of Mr. FWALL, seconded by Major
Eorrros Lyme, It was resolved, ~That a letter be ad-
dressed to the various relief committees, suggesting the pro-
priety of considering to what extent able-bodied men, who
have hitherto derived their livelihood wholly from out-door
labour, can at as early period be removed from the lists of
perilous relieved by them."
The committee discamed the various expedients adopted
to secure a careful investigation of the cases of rscipmete of
relief. These included the employment of weds& paid
visitors to assist the voluntary visitors, the 01• of wages
schedules signed by employers,and the preparation of indices
of the oases relieved by the distress committees and the
boards of guardians open to the inspection of all visitors
and oflicers. The advantage arising from the adoption of
times expedient.; was Etroogly confirmed by various mem-
bers of the committee.

It was decided that the pest meeting of the General
Committee should be held on Holiday. the 30th inst.
The following grants were made:—West Houghton and
Losteck (3), 501. ; Manchester (4), 6,000/. ; Oloreop (4),
1,5004 ; Darwen (5), 2001. ; Dukinflidd (2), 1,000/. ; 'Tod-
mordeu (5), 7804. ; Rilicheeter (5), 601. ; Tread,. (5), 201. ;
New Mills (4), RV. ; Tiatwistle (4), 2001. ; Little Rey-
field (4), 701. ; Cadialtead (4), 50/. ; Crostini (5), 601. ;
Moore& (4), 251. ; Browalow-fold and Astley-kidge
; Ashton (2), 1,5001.; Markley (4), 501. ; Hs,:a
(3), 20/ ; Chaddertoo (6), 1001. ; Haden Bridge (5), 5001. ;
rendlebery and Swinton (4), 1501.
The following grants were reported from the Employ-
ment and School Fund :—Knowle Cr..., Ribelestert 124 ;
Rochdale, ; &cup, 241. ; Blackley, 381. 14a ; Lower
Orumpeall. 131. 11s. ; Chorltea.upon-Medloak, 306 ; Bs.
Thomas, Red Bank, 241.

LONDON WIEKLY DOCK ILSTIINNS.—NLacz 14.

Impost!
11604 a—W. 1. hbds g 2,466
Mauritius begs 30,963
Let India begs 1.045
Slew baskets
340115 lugs 13,499
Hanna box 1,656
Cubs boxes
=pilluseovado 284
Do. —
ceysig—W.l. ..pack 737
Do.. Dela A bags
Der 746
bris & 1,690
Marlin packages' 274
Other .E. India packages 61
Brasil & Doses Lea bogs 1,106
Cooos
foreign 2,811
Bum 1.178
Do. little
Rion. XI tio.:l DI
841.7rwieue letrasyn or
Poems Ma

IPr. Btedc

;106
Wit
106
US
676
1.106

677
kWh

1,324
IM

1164
171,7511
MASS
1,711
IRIAN
4421118

11.78
81,01

1,41

6,629
10.940
9,231
26,429

24,200
20,113

1.667

Mal
148,1171
1/1,141
1.140
111,121
ANA

_
Stfill

8.928
MHO

14.010

4,637

kin
16.718
41167
17,801

27,961

4.712

DUTCH Ritstenre RAn.wcY.—The receipts for
as fortnight ending February 28! 1863, amounted& 6,3901,
15s. 44., god for the oornieponding period of last year to
6.1761.85. 64d., showing an lOCIVON of 2144 13a. 94d. in favour
of the present year. The receipts saes the eanusecooment
of the present book year, on the Ist May, including the
above, amounted to 175,5411. ss. 10:1., showing an increase
u oosopared with the correnpoodieg period of last year
of 8,8811. 14a. fig& The Working expellees for the fortnight
amounted to 3,158 L, or 48.95 per mot. of the re-
ceipts, and for the oorresponding period of last year to
2,9971. 6s. fid.„ or 48.53 per east., showing so meteors of
' egpeases smountiog to 1301. 13s. 7d. agaiost the present
year. The working expeneee from the Id Nay, 1862, to the
Wth February, 1864, amonntal to 68.7621. la. 110.. or 30.17
par sent. of the Tempts. The working eapeuese far the year
1861-1862 were 38.45 per mat. of the receipts.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.

TATTERSALL'S.-MONDAT.

SettHugon the past Liverpool sod Shrewsbury meetings
occupied the attentioa of memten during the greater put..
Soo of the afternoon ; said it was not until late in the day
that any attentiou was paid to speculation on coming
events. The lengthy list of quotations which will be
found below apelike for itself, and rcrinires Do comment.
Clueing prices :
NORTHAMPTONSHIRE STAKES.
. . . -

15 k, lapt Mr. T. yrs, Tat 51b (t)
Bto 1 Colonel Calthorp ne Kontdord, 5 yes
Sat Ilb (t)
15 to 1 Mt. Wrigbts Cbaft 37n, sat 71b (t)
15 to 1 Baron Rothschtld's Gorse, 4 7st 4lb (t)
20 to 1 Lord Alfesbury's Freeholder, 4 yrs,
6st 816 (t)
20 to 1 Mr. W. Da 's Oansooette 3 yrs, Sat 1016
($25 to 1)

SPENCER PLATE.
14 is 1 apt Mr. Naylor's Bios&Ils, 4 yrs. Set Ub (t)
CITY AND SUBURBAN HANDICAP.
20 to 1 opt 11r.
off)'. Gardener. 5 yrs, 781 41b (t
and
30 to 1 Mr. E. Monlis Bescby Heed, 4 pa, 7st
101 b (t)
'2O to 1 Mr. J. G by's Adventurer, tyre, ht 1216 (t)
33 to 1 Mr. J. John•ton's Oberon, 4 yrs, let
11b (t)
33 to 1 Mr. Papso's Alcbymist, 4 yrs, art 101 b (t)
33 to 1 Lord seterlleld's colt by Stockwsll—
4 yrs, 6et 2lb (1)
CHESTER CUP.

18 to 1 apt Count P. de Lagrange 's Stradaa, 4 yrs,
7st 4lb (t 20 to 1)
TWO THOUSAND.
3 to 1 apt Coast P. de Lagrange'. Hoepodar (off)
9 to 2 Lord Strathmere's SaccLarozneter (t)
11 to 1 Lord Gleoginea Rapid Rhone (t)
11 to 1 Lord Durham's Michael Scott (t)
12 to 1 —loss's Blue Hestia (t)
MO to 2UO Hamada and Seccharometer, coupled (t)
DERBY.
6 to 1 apt Lord St. Vincent's Lord Clifden (0
11 to 1 Lord Strathmore's Beecbarometer (t)
11 to 1 Count F. de Lagrange's Hoapodar (t)
28 to 1 Lord Stamford's Automaton (t)
33 to 1 Mr. Wattle National Guard (t)
33 to 1 Lord Glasgow's Rapid Rhos' (t)
40 to 1 Mr. Bowes% Early Purl (t)
50 to 1 Mr. H. L. Wigram's Melrose (t)
1000 to 15 Mr. flazon's Jerry (t)
DONCASTER SPRING MEETING—Moaner.
Tag Thud. Swine of 5 son. each, with 30 added, for
3-yr-olds sod upwards ; penalties sad alloyosoos.
(9 auto.)
Mr. Temperters Metall by Weatbertyle—Meudiene's
dam. 4 ,nom 4lb linowelou 1
Mr. Lieharsiers Omit, yrs, dot 12Ib (Whiteley) I
)ur. H. Smile's I by kweil—Skanda, Ayes, 044 (Lb
(A. Wodetteure
Ties DOW/Jen:l Bram limanc.ce of 10 son. eaeli,fit,
and only 3if with 100 added. WiNDOIS extra. St.
Leger 000244. (40 aub. 13 of whale tavial &Wand, pay
3 son. each.)
Hr. Temparteys Joey Jones by Neermlaster—Mre. beads
by Si , 5 yrs, Ist 11Ib_ .. .... Snowdon) 1
Mr. Hodgman's p4w, Wet 4122:U (Marl.) 2
Mr. Yeberre Vppsrbasd, Gyp, lat 1910

THE HOILOL Waxes, of 6 soya each, wt iiir:aied
by the corporation of Dom:aster ; for two-yrolds ; coke,
See 10Ib ; Elia owl goblins, Set 710; wiaarre Wm.
Hopeful 0r..... About 5 furlongs. (ZS abbe.)
Captain goouts's fltarbsoss by Kinipton—Ellalls plariolton
•WY deli, net 710 (3. Reeves) 1
Mr. Druninttors b 1 by Mountain Doer -Ares. est 7lb
(0. lordbani)
Mr. Onuses b eby Teddington—Nabro, BR 10Ib (T.Preueb)
Teo LONDESSOIWOOR Puts of NV., for three-yr-olds
and upwards ; wieners extra. Red Hews ie.
Mr. Gilbr• Adventurer by lloonniodde Tam by
Ennlius, 4 yrs. Col bib (0. Nobie) 1
Lord Matennell Poilluotr. yrs, Mt 210 Inc 710 eat,
41. Furdtuur)
. Sayile's ar f by IStockwoll—Miranda, S yrs. sst 71b
,Woodbouse; S
BETTING ON THE OOURSE.
CITY AND SUBURBAN.
200040150 apt Olossoebty colt (t)
2000 to GO Adventurer (t)
DERBY.
28 to 1 met Hatierd Gard (t)

RUGBY HUNT AND GRAND MILITARY
STEEPLECHASE —MONDAY.
152 GRAND Mn,rrAay GOLD COP VI! 100 soya,
added to a sweepstakes of 10 son. ;DO
soh. 5 ft. amid 50
added; 12at each • wieners extra; gentlemen Men;
wooed to mare his stake and receive 20 sues. Three milas.
(26 subs.)
Captain P. ratea's Rifleman, by Red Robin. list 10Ib
(Mr. Riddell) 1
Mr. Justice's Jealousy, aged, 13it (Inc. itib extra)
(Captain Mitchell) 2
Mr. leatherstouhaugh's NeLudsor, lint )(Yeller) 3
Tilt 13DGEST HUNT CUP, value 50 soya ; added to a
sweepstakes of 5 Km. each ; weight for age ; winners extra,
About 3 miles.
The Hon. W. North's Antelope, by Grecian, aged, 13st
(Mr. Jame.) I
Mr. B. P. Chichester's Bridenadd, hb, aged. lit (Omar) 2
Mr. aiding nd Jacques. aged 13st (Mr. Parker) 3
Tits Ores SuarallosAaa (Headieep). at 10 eon. each,
with SO added; 'imams attn. About 4 mdse.
Mr. B. Land's Deceiver, by langlea-lieGagh, itea IMb
un.
Mr. Erteooe's Yeller Gal, list lib ( (LanMr. dDixon)) 1
Mr. Handlers Doubtful, 10st 71b (C. Boyce) 3
Tee ViTlNalf Brag= of 10 sous. etch ; 12at each •
seatlemea riders ; wiaaere sibs. Itilitery Steeplechas
course. (20 sells.)
Mr DtiMeles Bottum 134 lib (Inc. 145 ex.) ....(Owner) 1
Mr. lisudiey's Tommy, itst 71b (Capt. bersrlay) 2
Mr. J. A. Park's The lady el La Gems, lst 71b (Owner)