The Express.
London, England, 1852-05-05 00:00:00

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mesh that etatmeist dm be mead, yet I believe it ie
Written in W4me lad 'ober earnestness. (A laugh.) My
hos. 'ridged may laugh, but if he will read the
gtanhe will poreeivo a sober seriousness
whieh will senvinee him that these who Weeile
it are in point of fact, the parties at whore
Justice:km much of the opposition that has been mode to
this measure has come from. (Cheers.) Now, then, the
house and the country are to determine between two alter-
natives. The one is, whether they will, as required by the
party from whom this pamphlet emanates, voluntarily sub,
wit this country to the miseries of a conquest by France,
which they say le ajust punishment for thesis' or this
try in swaging in war—or whether they are railiciently
wedded to these mutest notions of independence and self-
vindication which would lathe's them to roust a foreign
invader, and that they will take measures by which that
invasion, if it ever should mess, may be moreenfally m-
aimed. (Loud cheers.)
Mr. WAKLBY said the noble lord commenced his
MTby stating that he would meet assertionby user-
,h and he bad kept his word; for sot an. argument,
not one statement, not one fact, had he adduced to prove
the polity or amenity of this measure. But the noble lord
had quoted a pamphlet, and he was astonished that the
noble lord, with his gigantic powers of intellect, should
have descended to quote such despicable trash.
(" Hear, tear," and laughter.) The noble lord had
toed them whet the King of France said, after he visited
this country in 1844. He wanted to know it the noble lord
believed him. II he did, why did be omit then to act on
that belief, and to mem forward at once, and say the coun-
try was in a defused's. state, and that he was afraid of an
invades. But ledead of that, the noble lord had
only come fenced in support of this proposition since he
Ice the is he edinieihnlism He mid the noble lord by his
sondind hell absent fibst Ow glue no credence to the state-
=riga Welsibi. LW be would ask the noble lord '
Mlle ad loss both retatlow and Fo-
am peatlbill Pu
Mmentioni la esonsouse at his having by
.0M isadent WI to s belief that be was OD waxlike la d
diem so whims, and so wield' to all fore
seals that we • sever had esearity for peace in
timso long he was our foreign minis-
bal as
not that the universal feeling ? Ilia
(Mr. Wokley's) one esseletion was, that it was as unjust
one, time we were hied to the noble lord foe
his ennikeet as bmlr of this country. But he
Wei he noble Rd b imbOtain his hitherto exalted
=rsod aft be knob' for one moment to give
em* iiroilists obese& statements as that haled
1&...11....11•1 leadelL Isehios at the measure as
imott
end Vast" be Issas at every stage give t his
P•711-1010PliebtelhelpFsities. (Cheers.)
Oilbod 1110111110 M stationed the house against being
MIMIao mmildette which the noble lord had alluded,
WI: meenessetain that it was not by the authors
. did net Oink tie plan proposed was the best
=isailitig deewwiskiellee. (Crises of " Divide.") He
Owe we. on wiser that would not prefer volunteer
'sop to a lad allitiamtli as was proposed to be raised by
WWI ; but ettlei OA ropier militia and the Palau,'
methe had tin betel apish& (Cries of "Divide.")
H. DRUMMOND emegiatalated the bows on the
donnas of having mere " Piastre " in the bob_ et ter the
plater of the mwsphlet to whisk the noble lord lad referred
wen now a andidate for the vacant eat of Mr. Fox Hanle,
st Perth. (lissgborr.) He (Mr. Drummond) had no love
either he a stoullog army or for a militia; and he should
have bees bear plumed the noble lord at the head of
the government—Mein been sitting six weeks upon this
, egg, with be Wonly half hatched—had given them a
1 alesese• et Eames better suited to the circumstances of
the esustry. But this was the only meatus' which
these charged with the neelenal defences had
proposed, sod the only miestion was whether
they Weald sews* it or roma undefended. (Cheers.)
He spool with the hrs. member for the West Riding that
there *PAU a better distribution of the troops. He
sbuil bliss to 'so thus withdrawn from the north and eta-
Mewl in the Footle. (Laughter.) He did not
era my room why lbOold be stationed in the neigh-
bemeheed of the man towns; and he would allow
hew druldfel a thing It was tha military to trample on
the pee*. (Laughter.) If the Peace Society would enter
into a treaty with the President of France only to go up
the Mersey instead of the Thames, he was not quite certain
whether he should not be inclined to vote against the bill.
(Loud laughter.) We were much in the condition of a
great overgrown, spoiled boy, of whom one said, " I wish
somebody would give that fellow a good licking."
(Lavishes:) He was inclined to think that a good licking
would Is us a great deal of good. (Laughter.) lie
tztthat the dm time an Invading army got near
those mills which had dons such wonders would
emu to widr..lobeers.) The bon. gentleman (Mr. Wakley)
said delyeeenst legalded entirely by the great constituencies.
4,.... e could, nal ds
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whatilliallakalemilleta"llllabsPliliraliewsaiii"dednlnowtheing of Finsbury. (Cheers.)
Ike bus. gentleman never bought a bit of coffee, of
OW Whetter, or bread in that neighbourhood ? (Loud
istri). MANNERS (who was received with much im-
=bed hoped that the opinions of high authorities
11l bees plied would have been some justification
sr we smeree, eves to the hon. member for Finsbury.
I** members placed !dime men the fleet; but even if
wee dip were recalled tram the stations were, in the judg-
Ross or Re highest authorities, they were essential to the
!Illninionenee s( we • baswar and interests of the nation, a
Toy Alit thee would din before the government would
be asked either to tabs he. oat of commission or to send
them back to the statisnehma which they had Limn brought
hems. It was in obedient's!, le the order of the house that
the goimossat had introdused the bill, and now wished to
go Mb emaittee, in order that Its details might be dis-
-1 enissil. The government considemed that a
large addition
swore: 0 defences was nom pery, and it was because
the swear* was Ism hostile to the feelings of
thielewillede mil best ealeulated to answer the ends for
width It woo beiskel, that they asked the house to reject
the asesramisto and agree to the motion before them.
(ilear, WO
Lord J. RUSSELL raid he would not vote for the
smendeeent, because he timpeght it desirable that the house.
' het* derided by a very hey. majority in favour of the
seseeissimor, should passed is committee to disown es
iltgi=d prey
amid = ovforytheabbliell. Ha diadisetth:pboto.
ma it area WWI MM., and he meet robot opilet
the flow* Ad Weiss pat forward by the sobs lac
the sisals' he Itewhin. That noble lord bad bid the
bras, "If yesisee he this bill, you may be safe ; if you
vete he the anisailemnb you may net be safe, and probably
may be rained." The whole of his objections to this bill
was, that it would not make them safe. (Hear, hear.)
He agreed with the noble lord (Palmerston), not u to the
abut of the daeger7-not as to the sudden nature of the
attack which he thought impending over us--bat in the,
necessity of providing against dangers which, in the case of
war, would be more imminent than on any former occa-
sion. His objection to the bill was certainly net that it ,
was intended to provide against that danger, because go-
vernment
were fairly acting on the resolution of the house
that the bill skald be brought fa—but his objeetiss was'
that the MB, if carried, would net provide the We* which
was seessery. (Hear, hoar.) He had cillibliel thil
matter so well as he Nub' before the isbil illeall•
Ida had esublered whether It was pesibb he his le me-
pre some sass mints Is eemailfts se *NU mise do
bill tbo moos of lit shiest deffisi.' ft -bsi Nand Se
Ms ask while be might p~flit lidiedid in derail--
b. BIM of the abuses, he esdilablpirritasi is ism*
bg ewes whisk would give obeisab pielliney to the
bill. Ile therefore came tothedemimien tame it was better
we Mil aboard be at once relied* Malin that the govern.
seat might provide atiodue Min omiiist. (Hear,
bear.) Yukio other seaman bat bees soggemed ;
and, bed the bill not Mee aneedideni, *lee wsa
not the swellest doubt the governable would have
adopted use of those means. It simelwed to him that
than WNW boldly wry which would net love hues batter
boa the pussot WU. (Hem, bear.) no bit had been
yapme abound; sad namely any ;se of impedance,
MN rem of silibey esperiesu, womb say that the bill
wadi ha diebut. Mop sub" 'molar force were not in-
orwedloheald wet boa eut..wilt the expeetatione en-
tertained.' balk ban tbo eisensel. it wall he impossible
he the Os measilasirladel to Agora* the mall Ewes ho
bad is tie soighimeodsoi ef the seeiropolk. Owen an
imusiss is Osswall sr Roaltaltswould it be ossiimat to
mod MOO or *46* dila raw Niato Ft that Moak I
Osuld any MS Wm thstrealtaaasSweio lissolkirat i
Ilia* then Ma hill weld be • t. woe WE Ike
Rerun be propered was moony ent, and vast he
psalm Weems a issak_aoll
_spool militia was es• ei
texas imporissee. Me deoW sit was entirety Ms
alms sai pekoes.: that the hones had reload
Qlba awns et bei . gigs in his bill. He had
suet hopugned tho sertivesof these the bad deprived Wm
did pewee et lobs she 'bough he Waned it tun• pa-
audio" ebb. stabil psese Dot wise!, adored,
es be seamed esodioget this bill, that It was bebisot for
the peeps% abad best "barged with acting, set us as to
sewee- fte debase of the ealattb but purely been Putty
ashes. Be entirely dulled the Initrreetalion p* elm
his motives t it was quite at alltiesee with whet his been-
thus were. (Hear, hear.) The eight her. the Arm Se-
cretary and other gentlemen on that dim the hese had
most &Sly addressed themselves to his urgement; be had
nothing to complain of from them • end ••••dis ISM be
more fair than the manner in which the Bean Semetary
bad met his ugnmeats. As the matter at prime. shod, he
thought it far better that the bill, the house having Wrided
in he luau, should go into committee, and that see skew
tiensshould be made which were inconsistent with ihe M. 1
nerd inientioes of the government. He would not wheelie'
any wales view of the effect of the measure. He thought
it wonted be "Nod necessary, probably at the commas*.
meat of the sea seetion, to review the whole subject; and
be hoped they should then arrive at a system of defence
whisk nicht be hews than the Meal militia he had pro-
monk sod he halter than the sae sew ,and with
which all alga he reskiai H. baled iLMMI Slll7ll bill, when
in upseetione WPM be Rosa lb be djmetiesallt in many