The Express.
London, England, 1855-05-01 00:00:00

MINES.

MONDAY EVENING.
azd scarcely any transactions are reported.
The market for home mining stocks remains very
doll,
The gold mining shares are also devoid of move-
ment.
Imperial Brazilian shares were Batter, but National
Brazilian (Coates) showed au upward tendency sub-
sequent to the close of regular business.
At the meeting of the Agua Fria Gold Mining
Company this day, it was reported that the subscrip-
tions to the debentures only amounted to 8,000 f., and
with a view to induce the shareholders to come for-
ward, by securing to those who do so the exclusive
benefit, it was proposed that a bonus of 501. per cent.
should be given on the redemption of the debentures
in addition to the interest of 15 per cent, already
offered. The meeting adjourned to Monday next.
Tha following dividend, have been declared during the
mouth of April:
Per Share. Amount.
South Emmet £2o 0 0
South
Betaneck
7 0 0 1, .00 0 0
South MOM .........
Alfred Cossola 0 4 0
West wheal 1,024 0 to
heatea , 3 0 0 1,000 o 0
Wheal Clarktrd 2 II 3 653 17 6
Wheal Arthur
Nankai audits/WE 0 1 6 377 0 0

Total

the suns of hie hoe Mead with revisit to the 0111011
this meows est the prose of the orientry even •
Crby a eopiright He scold not sae/stand what
was in the taking off the stamp which would reader
copyright more Rosemary sow thee it was before. Is theme
depot Penay Cyslot miles aad sheep literature, he had soli
her that a Neap neespaper mews would be Wisdoms to the
piss* el this country. He wee netlike% is the liberality
ogles boa. fined if he believed that cheapness was these.
pogo with utility Ho believed that Whist; would Med
Mere be improve the morale of the people. At an Meth
the themeelvies the but Pares se the sage*
It wee fee to say what they would bey, and it wee sot
foe thee how to provost them from having the oppor-
aao,tp. ar )
Hr. BEN lINCK lased the bon. and learned gentleness
the Sohn; r O- aerial with misrepresenting the opiniuos cad
argnarats eapr.ased on hie Bide of the bow. The arge-
meat of his softie Weed (Lord L•ivaise) referred to the
~to.. sad ea to the use of a. wspaper artieles. The hoe.
sad /earned goi.ileinan admitted that a part of the due ad-
militant oe of justice mast be (teen up in order to harry
iii ski objected tots ales'.. Anil atter such so adoeigina
se that es the part of se high se authority, there could be
little doubt as to the mousier ia which the committee would
deal with it (Hear, locus)
Mr. BRIGHT trussed Ih-1 ths governothut would sot, in
oddities to she In.ny oiler pealing questions with which
they had to deal, tavolve themselves is this. That their
patianiu who were competed w th the Dustiness of sews.
paper making should have s lair ressaneration they were
all agreed, but it did net Solna from that that theiroccupatem
should be resigners'. d by the introduction of such a claws
as this. The Ti... cooly e implaised of the want of cosy.
right as • e dour to sosetbiog elm. The was no grievance
tar the Ti..... The Tama wee published for bd., hut soy
one who chic mioit coo, em paying the stamp, bring oat a
paper for Zd , with the men Imponant Intelligence of the
Thin contaimit is it. So sodas:lova were wine persons in this
respect that they actually attempted to take an office nest
door to the Times, tha, tt ey might have the paper at ant
heed, end lb., mealy mad* arreagemeate sad contracted
with the news peter to supply them with Item from their
baiter—(lnachtier)--eo that they thought to have the
steam of that paper is mar masts this cue.
(Laeghter.) Bat the attempt did not last nthoy
doys oe weeks, aid no attempt of making property of that
hied bad ever yet eseeeed.d in thismentry. (Hoar, hese)
What was the fact with.rvgard to the Tomes Coming
up from Neeithester that day he amid nut git • copy of the
paper till be came to Rugby ; and when living at the bolas'
of St. James's-west he often meld not get it before Pr. Ive
re ewe o'clock is the day. Were they, then, to be ignoraie
tf what was taking place is the world till they weld go" •
copy of she Timm. they had bard a great deal about
American asooper rs,aud h. toned that when people fused
• diffieuity about saying anythisig us this t to.; had •
kick at the American ',castration The Ana York Tribune
—s rosy paper—had no copyright; sad anther it, ant the
New York Bereld, our the Currier and Enquirer was ever
heard to complain that they wers_pirated •i her in New
York Of in other partes.f tic Union. The people always liksd
to bey at Gm hand. (H-or ) This question of pear
got op sad brought torwerd to t mea in this use
from looking with feeler on the bill brought la by the
Chancellor of the Esehemser or the right hoe. gentlemen
the member ler Oxford Uoivenity. He read a p •ragrapti
theothii night token iron the Glass, which copied it from
a Cambridge paper, is. the subject of piracy, and it stated
that the gentlemen moot conceraed in bringing about the
abolition of the newsy per stamp—meaning, Le espoused,
himself and hi. boo. friend near him—won themselves
making ansngentrats fir eatabliebigg • cheap newspaper ou
the beecaiteeneg principle. Every ono mould be able to
appreciate at its lull vice the ischgastion In the mind
of the Globe—at the Globe had a mind. (Lai gluey)
It was necediery to milt the attention of the boom to the
fact that the thaw was the most extensive pirate they hod
in this country Adoot this Maine, and they suppressed the
Wok altogether. But what did the Globe say when this
MOP Old ? published • loading article, which he must
my was mach more 1 .gical this lie articles g Ily mare,
in which it staved twit in it, opinion the reputation of
joureels for oti-giefility of news and writing would prove
their best protection, sod that there was little leer, on •he
part of those who had acquired that reputation, of piney.
That was exceedisigly judicious, and agreed entirely wish
his opinion on the matter. The &hitter I Imo made
so allusion is piracy by seespepers in the city of Mers•
cheater, and the Times this morning had an article, in which
it stated that • tbreepeney paper Misted its news. That
paper was about the Pit* of the Globe, and when the stamp
was abolished it would be published for Isle. But that very
paper published in Manchester the news of the battle id
Alma jest one day be fore it was published in London, aid
therefore it hid not follow that because it was published ie
Manchester it was copied from the 7 SSW or the Dail. New.
She newspspers in Manchester were published be per. me
tiniest large emits' He alluded to the ilionehever
Gisordion, the Manchester Emsnesseer, and the At,techester
Coaster. Tiny had able eorrespindents in woe
ef the continental cities; and he thould like to know o hen
those tem spondi rite transmitted messages by telograrb,
which might be nearly the we or the same as mime
tranamitted to the London aewspapen, ir,thet was to be bele
te be piracy, and if the proprietors of the London j 'tussle
wen to go do•o to Meachestsr and summon them respect.
able men, the editors of the Manchester papers, before two
justices of the peace ? He hoped the Cbancellor of the Ea.
chequer w.'uld agree with the house, and that the house
weld agree with him, and withdraw this clause, or it not,
that seat session they would have the bill before this again
for the parolee of re:iesling the clause.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said he ap-
preheatied there was no doubt that by the law as it at present
existed newspapen did enjoy • copyright for leading at icing
and other +niche of newa It was • new doctrine to his,
at least he Lad heard it broached t i-night for the first time,
that It was acre sary, in order to have • copyright, that the
name of the author !mould be published. Take, for inneiess
the case of an eacyclopelia. An encyclopedia published
anonymous animas, and noquestioisably enj yid the
same copyright as a poem, or a book published
with the name of the author. It bad been lowed
so practice that the greatest difficulty existed Is
enforcing the legal right of copyright which newsmen
enjoyed. A newspaper proprietor could not with &Sea
apply to • court of equity for an itjanoti a again.' •
pratical newspaper to prevent a publici'ioa when teal
publication was merely ephemeral, our could he with tar
probability of euccew neon to the more ordinary remedy
in action at law. It was thought th it in int:AlN:in( •
measure by which the number of cheap newspapers would
be largely augmented, it was • matter of common polio, to
IWO newspapers an effectual remedy by which their present
tights would be enforced. With that view the clause now
Oder the consideration of the committee was prepared. It
vu with a view of doing wt at was thought bat justice be
the rights end interests of gaining newspapen; but after
rem is which the proposition had been received es
huh skive of the house, he did not consider it incatabest
at his to peas the natter farther. (Hear, hear) TM
object that he bed is view was, that this ipAltille
61111.1 be fairly considered by the house, sad that they
might see what was the existing state of the law. If they
believed that there was ao &ape of alwase—if they pee.
fared to wait till the 'Let of thee pmeast wieseure should be
develop.d to practice, se as to me whither say additiciefill
Maly was needed, he PQM sake so objection to 1111.4
Num, sod theiefore he should AA thick it necessary le
press this claw.
Mr. DISKAILI add ha MN mg glad that the right
sea. gentleness hid wee to the oagdpiou that he had
eimeeaced. The sight boa. pealsmas had told awn, mod
bo Whey, d careeelly, that as the law sew existed per
papers bad a right of copyright, end so doubt there were
may rights sow existiag which_ pen ally could set be
eaferesd. There were sway thdividluelo who possessed the
right of free wanes, but be did awl oppose there wee op
who permed that right who would asereise it. An boa.
somber bad spokes of oar pose as simpered with the
ILSOfilell press, sad had appealed to the fears of those who
apprehended that very *Arline ants would arks.
Ifew be believed himself thee the tea 'easy of this
alteratioa of the law wewlii be to assimilate the prises is this
seeatry to the Americas prem. He did not think that the
lose of the LI/IffilS• prose wee peasioned by laws of this
Had, beams, as they did set ambit, that woad be aboard;
bat h. tone of theAmelean paw was lower than the toss
of the English pewit beam M we. the press of • younger
mestry, of a still celeedel rowetry, and thereLre there
iii. net thee mown at week whish would enstain, no
kelps, fora emeidsealle tiewl,tbe Awe el the ffsiglish press.
let the tendestifitle wait me doubt, to lower
be toile of the trios, busses M to adency was
leer the amount aphid and the degree of talent the
ill elected. Bat than they had opportunities, to • pp
ha doves, at the powleal no=aed Pentorseting Ilhe
Ned effects w Ala Ibis losidelon ponies.. *WSW
they were bound, film did mot admit • ”yligh t—oscis
wet himself °ppm* he adult • eappfght, bormie hs
Wight M the IMAM it wee, tos post 'moot, fop*.
blo, It woo Is a post di.
the won baud as sub
of ultimate MM.
saifl ofbbb bad Msoma WO
oraillioe, Teo pigtails of
Wm Asia to by one sr tN
bus ibst propedlos woo •
fps tboy wadi i so
_ooli mel azietlas. limeylvo wero
poiellis moaner MN abeam a
yob orbs night avail this..
• Mils& Therefore whoa
roMpoit lbo asoombiost.whisb
&mkt dosolito by the
"Nw=ht. li. tileusbt loader
mid be able to Nokia as fa-
• exist, and wht\ go oweesald
• • newspaper welch Wooled
ti piped Is oggetlliew to •
ul oeptial re Nils& lot
that as oslabibboi Looks
se eta* wall new by trio
bled it. Eva ot the punt
piracy milled. At that
sight Milne isfonsation of what
that prevent *ea from
a fall report of the de.
use whoa they cane to Pr
proviarial town. People would
▪ There wee no poolibility
.._
_As costeraptible form in
coontithed weld compete with
1/4 eraeogeently that which appealed •
pad to their anus of
always be prekrre d
ui
Bo Belt pomaded that I
the taw of &OM jar-

salons provided they studied is every possible mailer to
I fiellits'te the ermainaleation of intelligthee. Hs was asked
to give a eopyright is news. Now his idea was that his
duty was to facilitate the oommenieetion of intelligence, sad
not to give • copyright la sews, but rather to devise every
mode by which sound authentic {anthem* could be
• eireulatel in that swan by whisk the largest iambs, is
'the cottony weld he famished with it. His noble friead
the member for Nortbantierised had said, that • copy-
relit in newspaper litentere might be conceded,
on condition that the author segued his names,
and he said no man had • right to copyright who
i published anonymously. Now he_ (Mr. Disraeli) did not
• think that that at all mattered. Hs must say, however,
!that there was sorartbieg which recommended itself to
every manly mind is the properties that every one should
be reap osible for what he espreseed, but, if they came to
practiee,Ol was very doubtful whether they would be able
to secure that responsibility. What law could they devise
1
by which they sou-d secure that the writer of a leading
article in a journal should cortaihly be known to
everybody who read the article They might pus
i • law that should make it incumbent on the
newspaper %bat the name should be nosed to every article,
1 bat what name would appear? How could they secure
th .1 it would be the tame of the writer? No doubt there
were circumstances milder which nosh • law would increase
i the ant teeny of the prow. The writer who bore an Blue
trios. name might not hesitate to sign that name, and he
Imight Mintage the influence of the article and the sale of
the journel by so doieg, but the writer who did sot bear en
illustrious came, though he a ght sign ens which might
, bosom. calibrated. ...Laid et coarse hesitate before
he sign d it, and they might have see which was
utterly in tperative for the object that they d ' d to
attain. Far from this bringing under their supervision
the names of node whom they suspected or wished to become
acquaitred with, those were the names they would obtain ;
Ina it was the obscure, and not the illustrious, whom they
would chilly ge. He hid se doubt his mottle friend, speak-
ing of month circumstances which might be fresh in his
mind, bed used inpreesions which, on the whole, were nut
justified la speaking of the newspapers of this country
It keenly tee peen tad ezpressed opiaioas is a so that
Isom.- .1 them regretted ; but that the sewers! 'cockney of
their labours was to maintain the public spirit of this
le tuntry, and to guard and uphold the public liberty
of this country, he thought no impartial person
could doubt. Several parteasen had referred to
anonymous writing. Why anonymous writing was not the
eaceutatio but the rile of literature in this country. It did
not apply to political literature alone, but to the whole
course of litereture ? Why, who wrote f homes a-Kenspis ?
Who wrote the Wbole Dutyof Man? That was a book
which every one of them ought to have studied.
(Laughter.) For generations their predeenters bad studied
teat book. It bad gone thongs more editions than any
boot in tbe world ; it was not • scandalous
b ok, nor • libellous book, nor a political book,
but it was en anonym us book. Then who was the
author ol " Weenie, ?" Au anonymous writer. Who
ors tie author of " Rubino's Crusoe ?" An anonymous
writer. Who was the author of the " Essay Oil Man ?" Au
enooymous writer. Who was the author of " Defence o Na-
clonal Society ?"Why he was one who became afterwards one
of the most brilliant ornaments of that house, to whom
they were always referring assns of the mat eloquent of
orators, as one of the most profound thinkers; and if they
referred t. him as a statesman, it was to aba-s the whip
for not having put him into the cabinet—Mr. Burke. And
who wee be who onapied one of the highest posts, whose
name would ever be remembered, whose oratory,
though a tradition, was still rife and rampant in the
recidiectioo of the union ? Lord Bohm. broke. Why Lord
Bolingbroke's work., which they were always quieting, were
,I toshiottid as anonymous works. The aunt poem in the
i Ei.glisb language, 11 fur a moment they forgot Bbakspeare,
was so attospeou work. Clearly when they remembered
this. sostuct ei, and they might reeal • huourea examples
with a moment's research, it was too absurd to condemn
anonymous wrong me rely by s ppealieg to political arti. les ia
newspaper.. He could not help thinking, that in attempting
t is great change, opine in its coo eptiou he believed to be
•just one, but es applied by the present government, seemed
io tie uncertain and unsatisfactory, they had attempted in
this instance to combatand meet • difficulty which it was
ite • in for them to cops with. They could not, is his
opinion, give copyright to news. They could not give to the
rumour or the whisper of the day, even if authentic, the same
permanent privilege that they would give to an epic poem,
or to one of those histories which would oust fur ever. But
they euuld gtve to the proprietors of newspapers, and they
were bound to Five them, the utmost facility fur circulating
newspapers. 'Li attempt to restrict the privilege of I tiding
aewspepers through the Post-tau, su that they might be
read by the millions of this country,war not to be tolerated.
T. declare, however, that the news they diffused should
hive the monopoly of a tem hours, was incompatible with
our civilisation, and with the moaners of the age fq which
we lied; at the same time it was intolerable that they
*lnuit by artificial means monist the circulation. Let him
Mores. on the e• inmates that it was their interest that
newspapers in this country should be supported by capital,
eon fed by the intellect of the country, because it was only
by this mode that they could maintain the spirit of the
&with pone, and retain that superiority over American
newspapers to which the bon. gentleman bad referred.
L tr. LOVAINE wished to explaia his seating. He
bad proposed to mike the editors of newspapers or
the writers of articles sign their names to anything else than
th..l* artiales for which they claimed the privilege of a
copyright: no under any other circumstances.
Mr. J 0. Pill LLIBORE said he should wish to pot the
right hoe. gentleman the no other for Buckingh imshire
right ups two matters. The first was with regard to the
" Nosy on Man," which, he begged to inform the right bon.
gentlenorts, was not published anonymously; and the other
matter was with regard to what the right hon. gentleman
called " Thomas • Kempia." He presumed the right ben.
io iv lemon meant to eay that the "De Imitations Cbristi "
was written anonymously; as for " Thomas • Kenspis," Ls
supposed that Thomas a Kemple was the writer of it.
Mr. DISRAELI answered, that, unfortunately for the
hon. snit learned gentleman's correction, he (Mr. Disraeli)
happened to have in his own peeaeesioa • copy of the very
first edition of the "Essay on Man," and that it mi. mite.
lished anonymously. Who "Thomas • Rumple" was he
a had yet learnt, and should thank the t.lllO. and learned
gentleman to tell him. (Cheers and laughter.)
The clause was then withdrawn.
Mr. M. MILNES thee proposed the following amend-
ment:—" Every periodical publication that shalt be printed
and published at intervals not exceeding seven days be-
tween the two cease entire parts or numbers of such pub-
lication, and the superthin of which shall not exceed three
thousand five hundred inches of printed matter, shall be
entitled to the said privileges of iranamisaion and re-trans-
minion by the post, if duly stamped with the appropriate die
of 14.: provided always, that such publication shall be subject
to the terms and conditions imposed in the 3rd clause of this
act " H. said the right bow gentle, in (Mr. Disraeli) had an-
ticipated almost all the arguments he should ban bought
forward in favour of this amendment. Hie object was to
mak something above the dimensions of the largest news
paper now in circulation, es the measure of what should go
through the post foe ems penny; leaving • tree margin, but
not increasiug to say great *Peat, the berthen upon the
Post-dike. It might be asked why did he not take weight
as the criterion found of size ? But be was informed by
competent judges that weight would in inch eases be a very
uneertein criterion, depending as it did not upon the
extent of paper, but on the quality of paper need. All
que,tions eonneeted with the mimetic-tare of piper were at
present very much la doubt and difficulty, and might
undergo some great alterations. He had therefore in tbis •
amendment followed the act of the 16th and 17th Victoria,
chap. 63rd, in which about the diateasious of the largest
newspaper were taken as these of the papers which should
go through the post for a posy. His right hon. frisod the
member for the IJalversity of Oxford, being Coaseellor of
the Exchequer at that time, regarded that as a jest prim-
eiple. He knew it had bees urged that parliameat should
not settle these minatim of the Moor weight of a paper, hut
allow any newspaper to go through the post, without say,
supolatioa as to its Me, relying apes it that from the fact of •
the daily publiaatioe so very tioasiderable weight would
be produced. He might answer that by the ergununtuas '
ad altannhoes. Beppu an editor Mamie to wrap himself up in '
• copy of kis newspaper, should he claim to be personally
conveyed through the post? (A laugh.) But the privi-
lege was net to be menithed to daily papers; it would betties,
alas, to the eseellest provincial papers, soak as the Leeds
Mercury, and the admirable etriehlo metropolitan papers.
He hoped, indeed, the geeeenMee weight especially take
case that the daily papery, width asirlbstait, with extra-
ordinary energy sad ability, swab a variety et useful and
interesting seems all over the alma net be un-
i justly deprived of their meensiteedreelihnlaties at the time
when an eseemmenneabin denellagegmil pap= Were about
to be created In OMIT WM etas eleillry. The papers to
wbich he alluded nem OM dialik whisk members of
that house were le vagind almost as political
rivals, but from whisk they Meld mt withhold their admi-
ration—papers which, not themeless to any
party,—osither flattering the vanity, Petting tte pre-
iodides, nor defending the errors of any political
clique,—but holding the balance between the fluctuating
*pillions of society, were so coadeeted, Bathe could not lay
stub a paper down without the impression that be had been
ecieveniag with the most liberal and wisest minds of the
tints; when confident, their confloesto was justified by
events; when doubtful, it was bemuse the evidence was
imperfect. (Cheers.) He appealed to the house, therefore,
to allow sash jenruale a fair chasms of keeping op their
WO laMilestaal position. The late Chancellor of the Rs-
alleging bed NMI that the weight of • paper carried through
the pest fee me penny was so nicely adjusted, that the
railway. were unable to carry the paper with its supplement
by the first delivery, sad that the supplement was therefore
carried by a later train. He (Mr. Manes), thinking that
very improbable, bad made inquiries, and found that each
was the fact, but that the Inference was not correct. The
muse of that arrengesmat was the dillealty of manipulating
so large a number of sheets el the Tow is time for the
early train, and therefore the supplements were seat after-
ward.; but it we sot becalmed the excessive weight. Redid
not say, however, that eves if the advantages be asked
wen denied, that great national Institution, the newspaper
press, would be destroyed. There was elflisient energy
and enterprise la it tot:mums. all suck difficulties. When
the stamp was ispos•tuPoa time iater,rlial Peli_earliiell'
I the " British litessyin, though all Orrstrelirlisilharti
the Spectator ungifted in full vigour, sad
Steele, in the het article of It, umgratalated himself upon
the enormous circulation it had attained. Bet without
the stamp its eircalation might hens bees teaflild mem
(Chem.)
blz. COWAN said with mord to the sat of
which he had gives so**, that am it was **Mil to b 7

Ithe right keno meshes fee Maehater, ad also by the noble
lord the member tor King's Lynn, he felt it would be isn•
wise foe him to prose it; but he thought the house was an
improper tnbunal to decide what limit of weight should be
fixed; and they should take ears to ascertain hew much
the Post ales was able to do in the way of de: patching these
enormous loads by railway train without causiag •
delay of the mails. It was proved by Hr. Rowland Hill,
before the committee which sat upon the conveyance of the
mails, that the weight of the mails which every night left
Ludo& was no less than 14 tons, of which newspapers
formed a very large proportion. The illustrated Load"
News, he believed, weighed as much as ten ounce,. Having
referred to ease stalls cs, which he found in en old number
of the Bwrnpsew Ilapreow, of the Dasher of papers
printed wee yls London at that time, the year 1808, and
having unpaged that statement with their vast increase at
the present time, he said the weight of the papers, daily and
weekly, that were printed in London now in the course
of a week was no less than from 150 to 150 tote
He did not intend to press his antendineut on the govern-
sent, eat he felt disappoiated that after the representations
made to them by the provincial newspaper proprietors they
had not adopted the halfpenny stamp. He did not expert
the committee would agree to the amendment of tee hon.
member for Pontefract; for his put he thought ti •
proposal of the government very ample. The late reduction
in the duty on receipt stamps had produced a considerable
increase of revenue. A reduction in the postage on news-
papers might be attended with the same effect. H. hoped
the Chancellor of the Ex:began would take into his favour.
able consideration the propriety of imposing a moderate
amount of puttee on a limited amount of space.
Lord STANLEY said that the proposal of the hon. gen-
tlemen, although apparently oomplthated, wee simpie
enough to those acquainted with the details of the stoject.
He would briefly state to the committee whet he
tonsidered to be the object of the hon. gentle-
man. The principle be wished to affirm was chat
anything iteelf • newspaper should be allowed to
pass through the post at the same charge of one penny, ir-
respective altogether of bulk or weight; for although he
took a maximum limit, it was only became it was that of
the largest paper no . knows, and be was prepared to in-
crease It indefinitely. lie agreed with the hoe. retinues
that it was only • qinstion—but, unfortunately, he
thought the pasties of the case was not on the side the hon.
gent/ease advocated. They should not deal with toe
quasi as if it was personal to one journal or another ' • if
they once got into questions of that kind, they world not sat
on any ascertained principles. As he understood the pens-
Mph, of the amendment, it was this, that formerly • tax
had bees imposed under certain circumstances, but
that they had now abolished the tax and sub-
stituted a postal charge. (H.ar, hear.) There was a uistinetion
between the two cane: • tax properly so called might
be very unequal and fall more heavily on one than on
ano..her, and yet the icequeiity be balanced by some advan-
tage in other respects; but ff g runt undertook for
a certain compensation to perform certain services, the only
rule they were b-tiod to obese,. wee that the charge-
imposed should be proportioned to the service rendered.
That was tee fair principle of contract which they were
peculiarly bound to obwrve in the Poet office, as the Cu.
tamer had no °pion. The hon. gentleman proposed that
a newspaper of unlimited weight should be carried for
an unlimited number of miles at a uniform rate ; were they
prepared to extend the same rule to all printed matter ?
(Hear, hear.) The house had expressed its deans not to
give newspapers any advantage, nor to Whet ny disesteem-
tags on toe, in comparison with other setter. If they
carried them on more unfavourable terms, they were taxing
what they declared they would not tax; if they cern. d
them on more favourable terms, they were subsi-
dieing them. Were they prepared to extend the principle
of the how gentleman to all printed wetter and to private
letters t A letter under half an ounce was charged a penny,
• newspaper weighing six ounces was only charged the same,
so that it was conveyed twelve times cheaper than a letter;
• newspaper bad moreover the privilege of re- transsuisaion
for a week, so that it received seventy-two times the am ,ant
of privilege of • letter. There was no argument founded
on justice or public policy for such • course. The fair priu-
triple would be to agree that a certain quantity—nay four
ounces of matter, whether printed or meroncript—shout.
be conveyed foe the gime charge. (Hear, hear.) They
could not indeed du that immediately, for the Pie.-offl .
should be kept up; but the loss would not
hes* great as might be suppose d, for the number of Minn
over half an ounce was not so great in comparisom as might
be imagined. As the bill now stood, eight times more
weight of newspaper molter than of manuscript oouln be
seat at the same rate ; and it farther reserved to newspaper.
their privilege or retransmission for a week. He thought
they had already made &homilies enough for vested into
rests; but, if this amendment passed, aid their privilege.
were still further . xtencicd, the house would only be stulti-
fying former legisletion and reetorieg privileges which had
been formerly abolished. (Hear, bear.)
Hr. LOWE felt very nlactent to address the oommittee,
and only did so because be thought he could give them some
information on the details of the subject. The noble lord
argued the question as if they were about to lay down totally
new rules for the conveyance of printed or written nutter
through the Post ogles. The gaieties is, whether they
would extend the privilege of isoeveyance by ea st for one
penny to matter of the extent of 1,600 inches. The justice
or iniestice of that did not depend on the principle laid
down by the noble lord. It was not a mere gonna!' of
degree, as if it were a tax ethos the paper. The noble lord
would treat newspapers and letters alike, and apply till
Same rule to each—C.A.-a:" fro, Lord tenley)—hut he
thought his proposal would be found to lea practically
inspraiticable; if they took the letters as their guide, and
pet the same rate on newspapers, they would exclude the
latter from tee wet ; if they took the newspaper for their
guide they would make an immense thermion on he Post-
ale* revenue ; the result would be that a number of letters
would be sent in one large envelope to a party who would
diatribe:" them, and a trade of that kind would soon spring
0p.% If they began with the letters they would exclude
newspapers from the port; if they began with the news-
papers, the revenue from letters was extinguished. The Post-
alee was established for the purpose of carrying letters;
if It did not carry • single newspaper, it would
be impossible to deduct materially from the expelsse of the
establishment When Mr. Rowland Hill was asked what
deduction could be mad*, he said, " Very little, indeed."
The truth with regard to the newspapers was this, that the
Poet-office, tinting for carrying letters and having a surplus
ability to carry other matter, and the house o)nsidenng that
the conveyance of newspapers was • matter of public utility,
they chose to carry newspapers at • rate infinitely cheaper
than letters. That was the ground on which the matter stood ;
and he was sure the committee would admit there were
reasons of public policy for facilitating the carriage of news-
papers. The proposition did not require argument: the
newspapers were the great channels of latelligenee—they
were the vital breath of the country ; by mesas
of them the people were made parties to the
debates in test house, and it was through their
agency that an hon. member's speech was addressed,
not to the house alone, but to the people of the country and
to the whole world. The question whether the present
limit of 2,295 inches ought to be altered or not was • prac-
tical one, and he would illustrate it by the imams of the
Tons/. When that paper printed twelve pages, as it did
about three days • week, It did not exceed the limit of
2,296 inches, but when it printed sixteen pages, as it did
about the other three days a week, it exceeded, end had to
pay an additional halfpenny. Taking that In account,
and the nest of paper and printing, emit extra
supplement cost 1251. ; but they were forced to print the.
in order not to send away advertisements. If the tax was
uniform the Times might raise its price, and so escape loss;
bet as it was only occasional, it could n:ot. The of the
1t.... might be that of any ether paper is- a few years.
The present law was boldirg out • threat to every paper
that if it reached • certain point it would be subject to a
deduction on that aecouit. The knee had been
frightened with the ides that the aseening papers
would Mame, to an excessive magnitude : let
them see how far that was likely to be the ease. In
the first place, there was the intend limit of the news of the
day and the advertisements of the they ; sad there was
another limit, that of the an which • man weld read
or get through in the ears" of the day. (" Hear," and
laughter.) Now, that limit was already rushed. Teen
was another toast, sot so very obvious: it was evidently eat
the interest of any daily paper, however large, to raise
its price beyond its fellows. The Time. ma the Globs sold
at the same price, eo that competition must always keep
down the price. There were two sonnies from which
a paper derived Its ineoino—airculation and adver-
tisements ; and two soirees of expenditure, the
expenses of eiratlatio• and the meta of the filling matter.
It were evident, tinnier', that es theimpeneee Mermen with
the expenses el eirmilaties and the limes. 'fiat while
the Floe remsined lieeensAle pew abseil se ranch
all sit at whisk it would *ease to rams • t to its
proprietors. He believed the These bed saw reeebed the
limits of profitable eiredelka. The swabs, for Blan-
chester complained of the dificulty of pttleg a eopy
of the Timm, and the prosaism that had to be
paid for it. How did he account for that ?
The reason was clearly this : matters had already arrived at
this point, with the reistesse of the halfpenny put on by
government, that the Rena was ensigns, as be as it weld,
to Nutria its eirenlatiew What was get by the circulation
as to be say seaddeastisa. and *Mr aszkoty was 0017
that it shoal benne, ket:(Bzwessiesse of seeps e.) That
was the state is whisk things were, and the sesta at which
every aesuper wed sewer se later arrive. There being
this natural limit to the eie of every daily paper, be irked
the hoses wheals it was ware while, rawely far the pu-
pate of akin Liallpiaire ma% la *ON Ilellelele•
meals sad imWies be lie way el the natural IMO= of
the poem The manias pews stood in • very different
position from way eds. Fell= of the prem. They were
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other ire la lbw Min wee extracted.
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ex and walla lbesseed channels.
(Hear, hear.) He did ad sethat ; he believed it
was the natural law sifts, Esse literary property
was fairly entitled W gassiselles. Pei ketenee, if • person
was kept, at great pws, is the &Wet to write keg
amounts of what eja.sd these. it was ea 'awake of literary
rights of a most =safest Ammeter if, before the ink was
well dried, thew sensate were transferred to the pages of
as evening po It would be essfasiag right and wrong
not te say se. They was sew exposing newspapers to •
west severe cad enemas asegelilles. He sompleised not
of that Be led se syspatky la the feeling, of the coasts,
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