The Express.
London, England, 1855-05-02 00:00:00

J dance In the last year was only 640. His Mead
I Mr. Alderman Sidney bad remiudisii them that they bag
\stalled God to mitoses that they would Meehan* the IMO
aommitted to them. He *mewed in that VW., sod he
called
out opinions upon tof door ees to thmen pr e management oesent not to
management bithe h sesed by the
but to make only such cheeps as they believed wiZite.
and ' to the diffusion of necessary, soncd, sod nodal
lea:alai. There were essay other points to which be might
have alluded, but he had net done so became he wished to
confine himself to the questios of the aeries i vide li tka'
committee of almoner was to be eonstitatells (Obleem)
Mr. ions RAIIDLLL, referring to the sposekef by vs*
highess 4, said it was well known that it was only the mom
mendations of the ooma.tttee of almoners that came hake*
them, and that their proceedings wars never reed there in'
their integrity. Tim meet important huskies of letting
their estates mos elms brought on after morteseiting disess.
eons. Then, egrets, it was dear upon their eon Callit•lMlTl
that the eeminittes of almesers had never made inquiriesl
into the preetios punned in other public ectiooles and be I
was ably tom" that in Christ's Hospital OW lower boys were'
*writhed to a few favoured ones of the sipper forms, who
wore fermi forwards so snake a show at the examinations.
This thalami°, classical classes eonsiseed of 128 boys ender
the ma of Mr. Hawkins, while the head master had charge
of esay $6. That wee only one illestnalou of the errors of
theiruyetem, sad ea remedy it he gave his hearty support to
the resolutiess moved by Mr. Gamey.
M. LAWninen and Mr. Jostaa 'Wti•Oie briefly but
energetically supported the original motion.
'sr. Emma QUIZ= having replied,
*The seertdividad, when there appeared :
Far the amendment
Against it 7B-89

home for mess. Navigation would have been useful,
"I it walla byre been a better measare if early is Noreen-
' her Ladd ear des had been seat out to make the road, then
the'tehaegrant contraction of the railway. They would
have hive of great service in putting the road in order, leat
unfotranstely it was not thought of. He did not attribatel
the deaths sad loos that occurred in the commitearklV
to the state piths road, but undoubtedly the state of the
road loareued the amount of work. No doubt the lute
sad hones often stack is the deep mud, and loon after be
got before Sebastopol be found the horses of the commis-
sariat overworked, and in bad eanditioe. Lord Raglan
weld ban instituted ea inquiry to manna bow best to
provide for all three boasts of nutken, and the Commander-
in-Chief bad power to institute an organisation, bat whether
be bad the means was another matter. The Duke of Wel-
Inglis frequently did this is the Peninsular war, aid it 1
wee steamede done, under dire necessity, in the!
Crimea, bat It would have been better done at first,"
thouglidifficelties existed which did not now. Lord Raglan
maid have written home se ask the government for a well,
qualified officer to organise and superintend the transport&
Be might have got officers out there. It was the Quarter-
master Gtherel's striudul to make roads, but be simile
had engineering assistance. Ile (Sur J. Burgoyne),
made any remonstrance to Lord Ref /*a as to the sheeniest
the road. The Turkish troops were root adapted for trim&
work, and were very sickly. The iaconveaienoe of the NMI
was greatly felt after the battle of Inkermann—tbe full Ine.
cooavenienoe use then felt. The road became worse end
worse, and at last was unavailable for peek horses, whisk
fell down and died. The road was one of the greatest diffi-
culties the army sustained, and caused great delay and pli-
nths& It was • very letiOU• evil, and it would have boom
desirable at any soot to have improved it. Tire Turks wee
employed, but failed, and the labourers in the surrounding
eoustry would have been as bad as the Turks. Ail this wee
the -fault of our military institutions which, in his opinion,
in the field were notoriously insufficient. After the Wats
of the first fire before WA topol, Lord Raglan consulted
him as to the neat step to be taken, and he (Sir J. Bur-
-1 goyne) was not of opinion that heavier ordnance would
be required, as it was very heavy as it was.
By Colonel Lindsay—The deficiency that existed was not
in the calibre of the guns so much u their quantity. The
restos they did not expect to wtuter in Sebastopul was the
expectation that the isereased ammuoition would have been
snatualully instremeatal to its capture. When he formed
the opinion they would have to stay the winter, he commis-
sioned it to Lord Raglan. The weak state of the army, and
the state of the weather and roads preveared the batteries
hem opening fire, and compelled them to stay the winter.
It wee sot possible to employ soldiers in making the road
without taking them eta man important duties. The em-
ployment of soldiers to make the road was • matter of
military pnitn, and subject to the circumstances of the
esinfengn. There was nu wain of pecuniary means.
By Lord Seymour—lt had been his of mion some time
that the whole of our military institutions were insufficient,
and that they undertook the war in the Crimea under those
circumstance,. He c antlered the artillery efficient, but
the engineers wanted more sappers. The commissariat he
considered insufficient. Our military institutions were not ,
on • sufficiently large scale, bat the army was more fully
provided with sappers than it had ever been. He considered
the infantry and general staff perfect. The pnociple
of selection was made good by placing it in the hands of the
commander-in chief. fie was not swatted with the °egad-
'ratios of our cavalry force. It might be much lighter thrall
it is. He thought, from guard mot. the' experiment of it, that
the commissariat was inefficiently organised. IS MOS Se
be more military. He included the land Mayen in Mel
opinion of the commiseatiat.
At this point of the proceedings the room wee cleared
upon • question put by Mr. Lapard or to whether the tom-
ennader-inchiet was constantly in communication with the
officers of the army and aware of their qualifications, but on
the committee-room being reopened the question was not,
repeated, and Sir J. Burgoyne in continuation said, if a'
number of officers had represented that the tools served out
to the army were very deficient and bad, and if the Duke
of Cambridge, General Evans, General Beatinek, Captain
Shakespeare, Captain Wrottesley. and Sergeant Dawsen 1
(whose evidence was read to the witness), had given this tea-
timony, he could not say if it was without fouadnion.l
There might have been some particular toots that were go,
bat it ward not have been the case with the whole of the
tools, and he thought it must have been of emu acci-
dental or exceptional circumstance of which they spoke.
The great mass of the toMe was provided by the Ordnance,
and under • system of contract. 1114 system was to take
the lowest tender, provided it was made by a respectable
manufacturer. Many of the tools used in the Crimes came
fuel Malta, where they had been stored for many years.
B. was not acquainted with the rule as to the periodical
fWection of Ordnance stores or as to the replacing such
MI became deteriorated in semi.
To the Cheinn-n—lt any of the tools sent from Malta
were bad, he thought the blame would lie with thy store-
keeper there. He was not aware that • committee of
iavestigation bad eat on the subject of the tools at Scutari.
To Mr. Layard—Several parts of the road were very bad
sear the village of Kadikoi, from epilogs of water in the
middle of it • bat he was not aware that anything was done
to repair those places. That was • duty which devolved en
the Quartermaster-General. When the fire opened on
Sebastopol most of the mortars in use were ten-inch, but
there were some so lesge as 26 inches and 13 inches.
To Sir J. Pakiogton—lie was so far consulted as to the
army going to the Crimea that he wee out in the country
beforehand and made • report. He was not consulted as to
the chances of seems. of an attack on Sebastopol before
the . attack was made, and he gave no official opinion on I
that subject. He would rather not give an opinion (es we
understood) as to the tufficieney of toe allied forces for un-
dertakieg the expedition to the Crimea.
To the Chairman—The personal staff of the General com-
manding was selected by the General himself, which he
(witness) thought was the beetprinciple on which the 'elec.-
tion could be made.
To Sir J. Pakington—lie thought that a light deocrip.
lion of cavalry such as he had recently seen recommended
in the newspapers, would be of great service in the field.
To Mr. Leyard—Witans selected has own personal staff.
The siege train sent out was intended fur general service,
and not for any one particular operation more than another.
They depended partly on the horses of the country for mov-
ing the siege train. The country horses would have an-
swered for moving siege artillery, and even large guns, if
there had been plenty of them. Be was not aware that any
harnen was sent oat for horses that might be got in the coun-
try. The material of the Madras platform for mounting guns
was good, but the platform was made on • wrong principle,
and it tailed in action. The ground on which the army
was encamped before Sebestopul way selected by the Queer.
termaater General, but that of the siege °facetious by the
engineering department. The Russian plan of defence ha :
nothing new in it; it had been in construe for hundreds of
fears; it was simply the construction of earth works in
ront et the fortress, which were not equal to masonry as •
means of defence.
To Mr. Drummond—Balskleva is a poor village, with
no good buildings in it. The house there on which Lord
Raglan bad his name inscribed was chitty used by uffioen
falling sick.
Mr. Drummond—Yon knew the house, of crone• in
which Lord Raglan had his gluten ?
Sir J. Burgoyne—Yee, 1 lived in it.
Mr. Drummond—What sort of a palace was it ? (A

The PSISIDZIIV declared the assendseat carried.
Oa the qeestion, that it be adopted ea a aabstanti

6104011,
Kr. Buns= Gotta= moved, as as amendment to the
third resolution, that the number 18 be substituted for the
number 27, and that the year 1858 be struck out.
Kr. Alderman Winn seconded the amendment, which he
said was of great importance for the infusion of new blood,
whisk ell parties appeared to desire.
The amendment being oppcsed, the court again divided,
when the numbers were
Tor the amendment
Against it lO4-32
The PIIBIDINT accordingly declared the amendment

lost.
Mr. ROISILL 00/NIT then moved, in the fifth mole.
ties, to leave eat the words, "during the last preceding
fear years."
Mr. Gatmeinn acceded to the amendment; which was put
and agreed to.
Mr. M•Onacuy then moved. and Mr. Hatiznahweonded,
a vote of thanks to the Select Committee, for the attention
and labour they had bestowed upon their duties, and their
sincere desire to promote the interests of the hospital.
The motion being 'greed to,
The PAUIDINT, in declaring the vote carried, said he
had greet pleasure, as President of the Hospital, in ten.
tiering hie own thanks to the committee personally for the
sire they had bestowed on the subject ; sad though he had
had the misfortune to differ from, the opinions they had
stated, he fully appreciated their desire to promote the 'rel•
fare of the hirpitaL (Hear, hear.)
The Duke of NOZTIICYBEZLAND moved a TOW of
thanks to his Royal Highness the Hike of Cambridge, not
only foe what he bad said and done, but for the conciliatory
amuse is which he had acted, and which be (the Duke of
Northumberland) hoped would emu terminate to the at.
tisfseds• of all the differences which bad for some time
pest added this.
M. Alderman Winn ascended the motion, which being
unambamaly agreed to, Ins Royal Highness briefly re-
; tamard thashe, sad the pee:oath° gs terminated.

THE ARMY BEFORE

MR. ROEBUCK'S COMMITTEE.
Sir Um Burgoyne, under whose design and super-
intendence, the engin.ering works were carried out before
Behostepel, was esamiced yesterday, but delivered himself
it ea low a tone that it was difficult at times to catch its pur-
ple. As the gallant gentleman's evidence is likely to be
Mai it is desirabl. that it should be loud. Be stated that
Ms essimander-in-chief, Lurd Rastas, entrusted to him the
=operations before Sebastopol. He had not been
sg ta before, but he had been in Turkey. To him
wen finaided the formation of all the appeoechee to Sebes.
topol stir the trenches to be curried out by the army. In
carry*, Gut his strategical operations he could not get any-
thing like the quantity of work done that could be wished.
The generals of divisions complained of the exceesive work
the men had to perform, and constant app:inations he
orb far working parties were refused because
the May was not strong enough. The extent
of week undertaken was greater than the force
at mioneand could accomplish with rapidity. The commu-
nisation by road near Balsklava was good before the cow-
sessmampat of operations, although it was • mere track
MONS all inrinatry, but when the hard weather set in the
Nei benne muddy and difficult to use for transport. It
was supeatatioa when they arrived before Sebastopol
thug they should soon be in possession of it, and be was in
bepes they would, and that they would have taken it at
eels; but directly he saw the fortification he altered hit
(*Woe, though he still thought they should take it before
the bad weather sat in November ; and, again, after the
cessation of the tint fire, he had occasion to change his view.
It would have required a very large three to have made the
road, which was seven or eight miles long, of bad soil, and
muddy. There was a great deal of limestone to be bad,
which would have contributed to make it. He could not say
how long it would have taken a thousand men to make the
road, but speaking of-hand he should think it would have
taken thaw two or three sneaths, and it would have required
• greater quantity of tools and carts than they
that had, and they had not the particular de-
scription of tools required for that kind of
work. It certainly did sot conduce to the ethedency of the
army to allow the road to go to ruin. It would have been
far better to make the road, bat they could not take the
men from the trenches, and tad not the trenches been made
the Russians might have advanced, and ande r these circum-
stances he was of opinion that it was to the advantage of the
army to matins* making the trenches and not the reed,
notwithstanding all the horrors and inconveniences that

laugh.)
Sir i Burgoyne—lt was a good building, with a good
roof. Lord Raglan had only one room in it. Toe rer were
occupied with the staff. Col. Steele, the military secretary,
slept in hie offiee.
To Lord Seymour—The flank movement made by the
army across the country after they I.uded in the Crimea he
thought was rightly planned and properly executed. He
►eft the Crime► on the 20. h of Marsh.
The committee then rose at a quarter to 3 o'clock, up-
wards of an hour earlier than Imam, until tomorrow (this
day).

FIRE IN LEADENHALL-STREET, AND LOSS

VFElik

On Tuesday morniog a fire, which resulted in the
destruction of property of several thousand pounds value,
broke out on the premises or Mr. Prestan, stationer and
lithographic printer, 65, Leadechall-stseet. As soon ea he
wu apprised of the outbreak Mr. Preston proceeded to
arouse the who, members of ire family, and the apprentice
I iad, whom he told to halos him, end all, with the eacention
of the apprentice, effected a sale retreat. Up to 6 o'clock
last evening, however, no tidings tf the apprentice could
be obtained, and there is little doubt bat that he must have
human overpowered by the heated smoke. and perished
in the names. The premise. being about 200 years old, end
the timber beams extending into two other buildings, the
conflagration made rapid progres and eltended to the
house. of Mr. Jackson, boot and sloe maker, Mr. Levy
fibefleld warehouseman, and others in the immediate

eras from not making the road, though he did not think
that thine horrors were so much deprndeat on the road se
' was imagined. If the commis ariat asserted that they
could not supply the troops with food and the horses with
fodder, in consequence of there not being a proper road, he
could not say it was an exaggeration, bat no doubt the
supply would have been better, bat be did not think thew
was that deficiency in that respect that was generally Sop
posed. The greater part of the army was never deficient
at All, and that portion that was deficient was only otos
'tonally on half rations, and not at all in a state of gigue&
starvation. A good road would have been a great advant
13r supplies and cattle, but many more of the animals snighe
have been saved If due care only had beta exercised by
those who had charge of them. The horses no doubt mull
have bees better under cover, and the espouse had a peel
'Hest upon them, and the road would have been of
service is bases' up materials for this p
lie eonsidered tau want of can to be a gteat national dee
feet. The materials for the huts arrived after the rust
was in a very bad state. lie heard no complaints about the
tools that were employed beyond those that were in the
newspapers. Some of them might have been bad, and these
might be some ground of complaint in some instances, by
he could not understand bow these complaints could be jar
tided to the intent represented. The army all wbbeci for
sew tools, but the storekeepers, studying economy, data.'
bated both old and new. Ills knowledge extended to the
tools in the eagineeriog department, end in that department
no complaints were made to his knowledge. The eaten' of
siege operations undertaken on the arrival of the army
before Sebastopol was abate three miles. The number of
men required daily to carry on the works in the trenches,
and to act as covering partite, was two thousand. The
number of the covering party was shout one thousand,
but it was subsequently reduced. As far as he
ham, the unit landed in the Crimea without say
knowledge of the Russian forte, but it was always evident
that sooner or later the Russians could receive great reia•
toreements. It was thought necessary to take advantage of
the impression made at Alma to commence siege
operations as soon as postible, with every available
means, sad nadir these circumstances it was not
desirable to employ the working parties in the
ecustrutien of the road. If the trenches bed been aim
dosed to make the road, the army would have been liable
to have bees attached at an moment by the full Russian
twee. It was not within the scope of his duties to make a
representatios to the authorities, either here or in the
Crimea, to the effect that they were tarnished with too
small sa amount of coca to carry on the duties el the siege.
He never made say speedo repressatatims, hat was saw
steady applying fee assa to retakes@ the westing eisr=
bat the Acjutantplisseral told his be moldpartiea,
nut
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to Lewd Zedba that he leg le gam_ ea He siege
weeks miaow' as wino:4e wtwidad twee. He bed the in-
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vicinity. Between two sad three o'clock, the weight of We
prams in Mr. Preston's warehouse, which approximated
to four toes, forced down fl,or after dun in rapid sucermion,
sad se at was tbs vibration of one ot the adjoining houses
that a Inman, named Norman, was thrown iron tile spot
where he was standing, sod tell through a globs r sus•
Mining nab injuries so necessitated his removal to Ouy's
Hospital. Mr. P n's bones and wanboasee, with their
Illetitfta, were all but dertroyed, includieg the property of
Mr. Lest, who tenanted the thira aJOr. At Mr. Levy's,
adjoining, the asoond and third doors were burst out, and
other sestets damage indicted. The premiers of Mr. P..und,
mink maker, Mr. Hoarier, tailor, Mr. lailvos, boot-mskrr,
&e., were mare Or lON damaged. Mr. primes dad Mr.
Pound wore housed is the Sun caw, sad Mr. Levy in the
Phasnin. The Mims unknown.