The Express.
London, England, 1852-03-16 00:00:00

add screaewhat to the incomes of the rich. (Hear, hew.)
Sir, the view which I entertein is strictly this : that the
Hone of Conlinne ought to assist the government in ear-
17OISSMI me may be necessary preliminary to the
geparEssest. and that the government ought
to bold blond to dikaohe as stem as the state of
badmen admits ottbefr doing so, and as soon as the elec.
dmas are own they fright again to aseemblo parliament, in
nay that *in 'introverted quaidone of commercial
white *be two sides of dr bane are at variance,
be M are osbraitted to aad Nettled by the decision
Odom Hon" etClionona. (Haan boor.)
Si,. 0. 113111.111L1T whited to know where the majority
spoken of was to be *mad, as It certainly was not in the
party of Lord J. RaneU, of Sir J. Graham, or of Mr. Cobden.
Mr. M. GIBSON denied:that his party werejustly charge-
obis with faction P.s.r r..!•.!:g a new government quotinns at
to their intentions, before granting them public money. He
considered that such a course was most constitutional and
legitimate, and he declared that party objects had
nothing to de ;with the conduct the opposition were now
adopting. Ho begged to caution gentlemen connected
with agricultural districts not to practice again upon the
credulity of the tenant-farmers, by making promises which
they never would be able to fulfil. lie contended that a
dissolution was—and the militia question was not—one of
pressing neeessity.
Sir J. TYRRELL expressed his opinion that the agri-
culturists' appeal to the country would not be made in vain,
as they desired only to assail nnjuat taxation.
Mr. OSWALD charged ministers with paltering with
their followers, and complained that they had not given •
plain alma er to Mr. Villiers's question. In reference to the
question of free-trade, he paid • solemn tribute to the
memory of Sir Robert Peel, and warned the protectionists
of the depth of feeling they would rouse against themselves.
Mr. NEWDEGAIE said that the whole proceedings of
that night, on the part of the Opposition, were only parts
of an interested agitation. Sir James Graham's declaration
that ho would "do anything" to support free trade, bore,
from certain antecedents, a very wide interpretation, and
he had not forgotten Sir James's hint, that the loyalty of
the army might be endangered by a protective policy. Ile
pronounced a warm culogium upon the virtues of the pro-
tectionists.

Sir A. COCKBURN said that the whole object of the
debate was to elicit from ministers an explanation of the
commercial policy they meant to adopt. The chief difficulty
arose from the contradictory language held by Lord
Derby and by his followers. A I cry unsatisfactory
solution had been given to the house that night. The Chan.
cellor of the Exchequer, with many promises of frankness,
had given Mr. Villiers an answer which left it in doubt
whether government would or would not impose a corn
duty. Ministers were placing themselves in • humiliat-
ing and degrading position; but he would again put
to them the real question, which was, whether their fu-
ture policy was contingent upon a parliamentary majority ?
Unless government were more explicit the appeal to the
country, of which they talked, was a mere farce. Again
taunting ministers with their ignoble policy, he urged upon
them to give • frank answer.
Mr. BOOKER exulted that protection, which had been
pronounced dead, was as vigorous as ever, and Nourishing in
the face of a heterogenous and agitated combination against
it. If the opposition were so eager for a dissolution, there
was their boasted majority, and the pule was in their own
hands. He denied the prosperity of the country, and
quoted the present Mr. Henry Grattan as an authority.
The house then went into committee of supply, Mr.
BERNAL in the chair.

On the first vote of 39,000 seamen and marines,
Mr. HUME objected to going on with any rote after
midnight.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER hoped the
hon. gentleman would allow one vote to be taken. He
feared he had misunderstood the character of the debate of
that evening, for he thought there was gnat anxiety
expressed to advance all necessary measures. (Hear, hear.)
They would never reach the Mutiny Act unless they got
on ; and he hoped at least one vote would be taken.
Mr. W. WILLIAMS said that if this vote was allowed,
the whole of the naval estimates would be taken.

Mr. HUME said that it had been agreed that no vote
should be taken after 12 o'clock if i‘ was objected to. Ile
should be sorry if the right hon. gentleman the Chancellor
of the Exchequer began wrongly at the very first.
(Laughter.)
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER would not
press a vote against any rule that had been made, but this
was an exception which proved the rule, and the circum-
stances under which it was proposed were peculiar.
Lord J. RUSSELL would agree to the vote being
taken. He had never concurred in the opinion of his hon.'
friend, that no vote should be taken after midnight. If
there was any objection to the number of 39,000, the
house would no doubt be ready to hear it. (Hear, hear.)
Another reason for agreeing to the vote, was, that the
right hon. gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer
had that night beard the opinions of many members, with
respect to the expediency of the government advising a dis-
solution of parliament, after the necessary business had
been gone through, without the house being called
on to take into consideration any of the other
measures which the government had stated
they were about to bring forward. Perhaps, before
Friday, the next day for going into committee of supply, the
government would reconsider their course, and concur in
the wish which had been expressed in the debate of that
night. He should be sorry to give a vote adverse to the
government in committee of supply, if they merely went
on with supply, without entering on measures with a view
to a protracted session.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the
noble lord only did him justice in believing that it was his
duty and his pleasure to listen to the sentiments of the
house, and to defer to its predominant feeling; but he
was sure the noble lord would not ask to come on the
sudden to a decision on this point. He had watched
the proceedings of the evening, but when the noble lord
said that all the government was required to do was to pass
the proper measures necessary for the service of the country,
he must remind him that on that evening there was a very
important difference between two of the most eminent sup-
porters of the noble lord with regard to what measures
were II
Mr. cleft's:a said he wished to have an opportunity of '
remarking on the distribution of this very force, and to
show that if it was properly distributed there would be no
necessity for any additional force, but he had no objection
Ito go on.
Mr. W. WILLIAMS did not object to the number of
men, but he objected to taking a vote after 12 o'clock.
A vote of 39,000 seamen, including 11,000 marines and
2,000 boys, and a naval reserve of 5,000 men, was agreed to.
On the vote of 1,489,0541. for the wages to seamen, ma-
rines, and naval reserve,
Mr. HUME said if the vote would facilitate a dissolution,
he would not throw any impediment in the way. (Hear.)
After a few words from Mr. W. Wittiams,
The vote was then agreed to, as was another of 606,5781.
for victuals. The house having resumed, afterwards re-
solved itself into committee of ways and means, and a vote
of 8,000,0001. was taken.
The Burghs (Scotland) Bill was read a second time.
Tbo Charitable Trusts Bill and the Copyright Amend-
ment Bill were also read a second time.

The Suitors iu Chaucer Retie[ (Stamp Duties, &c.) Bill
plumed through committee.
The house adjourned at one o'clock.