The Express.
London, England, 1862-05-30 00:00:00

THE MURDER OF IL THIEBAULT.

Mr. SCULLY asked the Chief Secretary for Ireland
whether soy, and how many, extra pollee were or would
be stationed at or mar the spot where the late M. Thiebault
was murdered ; what was the estimated cost of such extra
force, sod would it be charged on the occupiers of soy, and
will,* particular towalseds.
Sir R. FEEL said the government bad sent down ten
extra policemen to the locality where M. Thiebault was
assassinated. The estimated cod of sash man was S.V. per
annum, parable in advance. As lose en these men were
stationed there the cost of their minimisee would be
charged on the towidends is the vicinity, but of course the
towaland of Rockville would not be charged, because it was
the property of the murdered man.
THE REPORT OF THE DEFENCE COMMISSION.
Mr. GREGORY asked the Secretary of State for War if
the evideees taken before the Defeoce Commusioaere would
be laid before the home together with the report ; and, if
so, when?
Sir G. C. LEWIS said the report was presented in the
lid instance without the evidence, because it was thought
the house wished to see it immediately. Bat the °video°e
was in the hands of the printers, and would in a short time
be laid on the Wile of the house.

EKENCH AND ENGLISH IRON-CASED VESSELS.
Mr. LINDSAY asked the First Lord of the Treasury if •
he bad any objection to lay on the table of the house a
return of the number of boa-cased vessels built and build-
ing, or in course of conversion, for the use of her Majesty's
navy ; and • copy of the list in the poessmion of her Ma-
jesty's government, of the thirty-six boa cased ships said to ,
be built or building for the government of France, with the
state of progress and tonnage of each vessel, as far as ;
practicable, and in both cases distinguishing ens-going ships
from floating batteries'
Lord PALMER-SlGN—There can be no objection to
laying on the table of the house • return of the number of :
iron-cased weasels built sad buikii or in course of con-
version, Lir the nee of her Majesty'ss navy, when they were
launched or when they were expected to be launched, as
far as the Admiralty can furnish that information. With
regard to the iron-clad ships in the French service there will
also be no difiloulty, I believe, in laying before the house
from the Foreign-office documents the number and names
of ships which are built and building, and the plate where
those ships were launched. With regard to the particular ,
state of of each vessel lam not sure we have the
means giving such details. Perhaps the French &cu.
meats may give the time when those that are not yet
launched may be expected to he launched.
Mr. LINDSAY asked if it were the ease that a special
document was given by the French goverement to Lord
Cowley, with the request that Captain Gower, the naval
aide-de-camp to the embassy at Parrs, might go and examine
for himself. if the noble lord had any such document, would
he lay it on the table of the house ?
Lord PALMERSTON said Captain Gower had bad every
facility given him to visit the French arsenals and dockyards,
but he was not aware that any specific document had been
given him.
SUPPLY OF IRON FOR THE NAVY.
Lord R. GROSVENOR asked the Secretary of the Ad-
miralty whether, considering the great importance which
&Schee to the quality of iron, both for building and for
plating ships, the government proposed to take any new
steps for !securing a supply of iron for the purposes of the
navy of the Lest quality'
Lord C. PAGET said the question of the noble lord was
one of considerable importance, and he would endeavour to
state what the Admiralty was doing in respect to the iron
for the supply of the navy. Hitherto the contracts for iron
had been of • very simple description, but as they
had progressed with building iron ships, and espe-
cially iroo.caseflehips, the Admiralty thought fit to take into
their 000sideration the Lest means of obtaining the best
quality of iron, and they had, with a view of issuing fresh
contracts, given notice to close all their contracts for iron,
and they were going to call together some of the most min.
salt men who were acquainted with the various qualities
of boo to suit them in preparing 1001 mm by which they
might issue tenders for contracts, giving minute details as
to strength of iron, and the various qualities required
for plating vessels, sad for iron yards and masts,
sod stating the test that would be applied,
and he might say that the teat they meant to exact would
In no cue be departed from. He trusted that in the
course of the autumn they would be prepared to issue
tenders, which would apes the trade as far as possible with
a view to getting the beet quality of iron for shipping par.
paws.
NATIONAL EDUCATION IN IRELAND.
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Mr. WHITESIDE asked the Chief Searebuy for Ireland
whether any rule had been framed by the National Board
of Education in Ireland which permits the use of prayer at
the opening of a school and dunng school hours, or the post-
ing of the Ten Commandments in the school 1
Sir R. PEEL said if the right hon. gentleman would
refer to yoke 12, 14, and 16, he would find that they per-
mitted the use of prayer at the opening of schools and
during schools hours after the ordinary school business was
closed. The managers of schools were not required to ex-
clude from prayer any child; but the children whose
parent, or guardians objected to their remaining miOit with-
draw. As regarded the Ten Commandments, they might be
bang up in the school.
CIVIL SERVICE APPOINTMENTS.

Mr. HENNESSY eked the First Lord of the Treasury

whether the government had takes aa7 steps to carry out
the recommendation of the select conmottee on civil service
appointmeats, to the effect " that the experiment of open
competition for junior clerkships, tried at the hid's, Board
in 1850, be repeated from time to time in the other depart-
ments of the civil service."
Lord PALMERSTON said the present arrangement for
taking the examinations was this ; the candidates; were
examined in the first place up to a standard test to see
whether they had what might be called the minimum qualifi-
cation, and then the usual practice was that for liTel7 vacancy
three candidates should be submitted to competitive ex-
amination. It was not the intention of government to
widen the range of competition, nod he thought there was
good reason for not doing so. If this competitive examina-
tion were thrown masa to all camera the result might be that
for ten vacancies indeed of thirty competitors there might
be 300, the result of which would be to spread over a wider
surface the disappointment which wax the inevitable con-
sequence of even the limited competition which took place
at present. He thought it would be a hard thing to allow
a whole troop of young men to compete for a small number
of vacancies, diverting them from occupations in private
life, in which they might hod a profitable career.
Mr. WARNER asked the noble lord what became of the
two utumccessful candidates. Could they compete for the
next vacancy?
Lord PALMERSTON said that would depend on the
discretion of the head of the department where the
vacancy was. If there was reason to think that the two
unsuomesful candidates were well qualified, though not so
well au the one who obtained the place, they might be
allowed a second trial, but they bad no right to it.
THE WHITSUNTIDE HOLIDAYS.

Mr. WALPOLE naked when it woo proposed to adjourn
far the Whitsuntide kolidays, and fur how long the at-
journalist would be ?
Lord PALhIERSTON Paid it was usual not to sit on the
Derby day, which would be next Wednesday, and therefore
naturally from Tuesday to Tnuratliy,
they should adjourn
and seeing there ass only one remaining day, and that was
a volunteer day, he should propose that they should ad-
journ from Thursday, the sth, to Thursday, the Lath of
June.
POOR-LAW (IRELAND) No. 2 BILL

The hones then went into committee on this bill, and
progress was resumed at clause 9.
A protracted discussion and several divisions took place
on this clause, turning on the point whether outdoor relief
'ball be given to young children, either by being sent "to
nurse or otherwise—the latter words being the gist of the
argumentation. The result was that the committee ulti-
mately agreed to retain the words "or otherwise." sod to
allow orphan children to rebeivoiritifriom relief up to the
age of eight years instead of five.
A long dimmed= also ensued on clause 10, relating to
the religion in which deserted children should be brought
up ; and upon a division it was agreed that their rohgtsn
should he that of the person in whose care they were im-
mediately prior to their admission to the workhouse.
Proper was reported at a Lie boor.