The Express.
London, England, 1852-03-26 00:00:00

smiths of moswity appeased to him one in which they
Ma thee, yield to the &-
muds Zeilaidilrbuldoesiertget_ rte,
the mutt, in
siiSi he lade/Mad to le au useawleg of
" • r then, Indeed. they wove to have a 'sea-
man wheat give game* and pernament satisfaction.
Bat whoa they gam Atm sort of general and permanent
satlabietka, it wee said by the " We
ham had our way ; it requires nothing agitation to
move the Rothe of cammitee. It is to get them
to ogres Its mythkg fee OM geed et the pesple withut."
Tim right essasiman geld further, eet miler the Re-
fer= although it was against the intermits of the tory
partv tits imenstry bad been well governed. It was •
rtisfaetita tis kill to think, that under the
art that he hod the looser of Introducing now
nose diall 11) pan age, the emultry had been
won Novilella MEd that many ommeres of a liberal policy,
and whisk tended to the prometienef the good govern-
ment ef the people, had been carried in that period. He
never 'ensued the party opposite would maintain what was
for the pod of the country was against their lot, rest. He
should have thought that their interest was identical with
the interest of the country at large, end that they would
never have said that their ietcrtsts were opposed to the
general interest of the country. For the reasons that
ho had given, he must vote against the proposition;
but lie did trust that her Misjesty's goverantent would re-
consider the course which they had announced to-night,
and which was too well to ho expected from the annouuce-
ments made the other night, that they would not wait till
the necessity arose, but that they would take the opportu-
nity of considering maturely the present state of the repre-
sentation ; that they would endeavour to remedy it ; that
they would give votes to • greater number of
the working classes ; and that they would ate
that by the* reforms' they would make those
institutions permanent, which he believed the people of
this country were so steadily and earnestly in favour of.
(Cheers)
Mr. WALPOLE said his only object in rising was to
correct • misapprehension of Lord John Russell, and that
it might not go out to the county that the Chancellor of
the Exchequer had used the expression "clear necessity"
as synonymies with "clear discontent," whereas he had
coupled the exprowiee with the words " permanent and
mama eats tasties to the country." U. (Mr. )Val-
pole) had understood Mr. Disraeli to say thi,t
the Ream Act was intended to be • perms.
mint • adairamatat of • great question; but he did
not mese to man& from his ersavation the possibility
of eahnediai the Inumbiet. Ikfnre, however, any essential
chases 'Automat le the sure of 1832, two things were
always ineambent upon Maui who proposed it ; first, to
show that a Shine vas practically necessary; woeudly,
that the change would be practically satisfactory. As the
motion had been completely •nswered, Ito thought it was
not incumbent upon him to give an opiuiou as to any spe•
elite measure upon this auhjiet.
Mr. W. WILLIAMS moved the adjournment of the
house.

porton.' he the welfare and enmity of the country. Then to require es sales* of this nature, espeeledip Nam a
wen many important rowans which they had not even retires& who hoe devoted • keg lite te this anestion—
Mated Mr and which they believed to be fee the beadle of (elsearst), and tbst *Am me 1$ them eleindsal MONO 'bilk
the realm. Bat what lappets' ? Wes they not met are mere Imereat that patted blonden. (Itenewed
with the ivy—. What! bring farmed any meesuree in sheen.) Whatever tes may be one minims of the
the list year of • parliament! (Loud cheers) Legislate policy recommended, we must protest against all this
in • coadeaned parliament ! (Cheers.) Bach a thing policy, founded as it is on such erroneous data. (Cheers.)
was hardly ever heard of. It is your duty to counsel the lam not on. of those who think that because I disapprove
Ursa to jwarugue and dissolve parliament immediately, of a proposition brought forward in this immature way, I
bearam this is the last year et parliament." (Cheers.) am bound to oppose any proposition to remedy mievasees
TM swim was substantially, therefore, (or amnia per- I that are consisted with the representation of the wimple.
limiest& (" Hear, hear," and laughter.) And whwhoa' (Hear.) I have listened with some surprise to the free
they case se far, it would be heftily worth while to stop criticisms of the new supporters of the noble lord ups
there without doecrading to the favourite creed of an many the measure which he lately proposed as the first
reformers--a creed that vise professed that very night— minister of the crown. I really believed that a sense of
anneal parliaments. (Hear.) But &meshes to whetthey had decency would have kept those gentlemen silent upon it;
been PO *Bea told within the last fortnight, the last year bet we hate had • debate of three or four hours upon, I
of a earliament was condemned for any useful purpose, will not say, the abortive proposition of the late minister.
sods sanest parliaments meant eoa.lemned parliaments— It seems to me that, sitting on the same benches, enemies
(" bear, Ms," suit laughter)—and oho commons of Stag- under the same root, and combined in • con-tinstiona
land would sever presume to legislate in them, because course fur the sine object, I should have thought that
they were to be dissolved the very year that they wore more gentlemanly feelings would have prevented the
to he called into eaistenee. (Laughter and cheering.) slightest allusion to that measure. (Laughter.) I should
The third proposition pat forward by his bun. have thought that they would, upon the policy of the noble
Mead (Idr. Hume) was to take the votes by lord, have maintained at least a decorous silence. • and that
heilet New, it appeared to him that the manner they would have been satisfied with the ;rest con-
ed Whin vein said never be made momentum. question of. stitutinnal support of the noble lure on the OM
Yenannei smemarily look to the votes 1.,0, take. If you side, and on the other with the revolutionary epees►
ham a hegamiaber of votes to take, or if you have • mall of the hon. gentleman on the other. (Laughter.)
easier awes to take, the method by which you remits- But even the noble lord's late Solicitor-General himself has
mead them to be taken might stecessimily assume • very entered into a criticism upon that measure. (Laughter.)
dihierest character and aspect. (Hear, hear.) lie believed Mr. Disraeli thee declared, alluding to the attacks upon
that • Minted number of voters with the ballot would be Lord Derby, that the ministers did not confound en extes
• very conservative method of taking vote (Hear, hear.) non of the franchise with the increaser democratic power,
Were hon. gentlemen opposite prepared to See the ballot end be asked where the vaunted Reform Bill would have
with this condition ? (Iles, hear.) He seemed they wore been hut for Lord Stanley. But they were opposed to us.
not. (Hear, heir.) lie assumed that they would nut take necessary projects, and to the tamp ring with the demi-
the vote by ballot with the present number of electors. tory of political power. Expressing a hope that next year
(" Yes, yes.") ''hey would. Well, he heard them that Mr. Hume (having in the meantime really studied the sub-
night denouncing an oligarchy, bet a more cunning device jest) would he found advocating more moderate proposals,
and contrivance for establiahis an ol.garchy he could not he terminated his speech by declaring that, except under
well conceive than to invest a tineitee number of penman the influence of clear necessity, he should uphold the a:-
with the franchise, and to guard them through the ballot lining system of representation, under which, imperfect en
from the criticism and control of the unenfrauchised it was, our institutions had been efficiently preserved.
millions. (Loud cheers.) Ile would do hon. gentle- Mr. HENRY BERKELEY said a few words in support
men uppsite the credit of believing that they were of the ballot, but promised to reserve himself fur his spindle
nut in tures of such • proposition, mid they motion on the subject.
always indeed contended that an extension of the Mr. BERNAL OSBORNE conenitulated the heuse that
suffrage was • necessary concomitant of the ballot. (hear, the Chancellor of the Exchequer had spoken out sta.
hear.) Well, thee, if that 11010 so, he wanted to knew eitly on the question of reform, and had declared that the
where the line WA% to be draws, if the franchise was to be " finality dodge" was to be tried ogaiu. This, if the eta-
considered as • right, as was contended by the hon. gentle- Reties he heel cited were to be relied on, was most sleet,
man opposite that night ? (Hear, bear.) If they said that because he had hineell shown that the agricultural interest
they did nut want to draw any line, and that they wished was miriadey represented, and ought to have a new Rehm"
for universal suffrage—without which, as fee as the sin- Bill fur itself. Neither party in teat house was 'Meer. la
{Spies of political justice went, they could sot otherwise its desire to put down bribery soil intimidation, or the
establish perfect justice—then they came to a now constitu- ballot would have been given long ago. There was no S-
tain, and hail, in tact, what was commonly call -d the cove- decision on the subject in the mind of the oiuntiy. He
reiguty of the people—that is to say, that American comb- could have wished this motion put in a better form, but le
tutiun which was to constantly and consistently pan. gyrieed should yule in its favour.
by bon. gentlemen opposite. (Hear, hear.) But that was Lord J. RUSSELL said he had so often addressed the
not the constitution of England. (Gear, lies.) The COD- house on the subject of the motion now before it, that he
stitutiou of England, mitigated sad modified as it might be, should nut think it necessary to go at any length into the
was still the constitution of Queen Victoria. (Cheers.) But, several propositions which that motion embraced. It ap-
Mil the hon. member far !goatees we must have the bathe, peered to him that the simple question was whether the
audit issues te bring forward flue .pun arguments aignMet it, adoption of • bill founded on the principles contained in his
beaus the ballet will terminate bribery and corruption. hon. friend's proposition would conduce to the lewd Re-
(Cheers) Now, he begged to direct the attention of hon. vernment of this country, end on that point he hail come.
81114111111111 *to to a pass g. which he had recently he must say most reluctantly, to the opinion that it would
realegild tfYr appeared in a document coming from that not. (Cheers from the ministerialistse He thought that
Notary in which naive's' suffrage and vote if they gave a vote, not only to every householder but to
latshlltiS tasted. (Hear, hear.) This was the way in every lodger, who, by Ensue and collusion, might be placed
Om Governor of New York, addressing the legate- no the rates, if to that were added vote by ballot, and if
Mei If that state—that enlightened community which was the representatives thus elected were assembled only he
meneil is aloe in the United 'Web The governor of this three years, they would not thereby obtain a Huse a
Mee asy•—•' Ike amaaiug lallable of bribery in the pope- Commons which, either with regard to the executive power,
oar alectioas of this state domes& your serious attention." with regard to the other parts of the constitutes,
(Loud cheering.) This WY OM way is which the chief or with regard to calm and deliberate legislation,
gpmener of New York, a sues in which universal suffrage would be as efficient a body as that which iris
and les linnet e 'Wed, ed.lremed the legislature. (Iles, assembled under ;he present system of representalene
=as was cestly the pecedent quoted by the hon. (Ministerial cheers.) 'Therefore if he had to choose leo
tigte, and his was the head of the state tween the proposition of his hon. friend and the exkft
im thi bpsl *tore to intertere. (Loud theme.) Ile suite of the law, he alsoula prefer the law as it stood ; sod
this desaisest is • Weer written by a gentleman appeared to him that that was quite a sufficient reason be
uthilleeinlMlS VOMblie of theatres, and whohad performed his voting against the motion. But he confessed that be
hmyselarie earns* to this seasteb but as be (Mr. Disraeli) thought some ports of his hon. friend's proposition ass
sus me weft the seatimeals tithe writer, he forbore to tinned, not only the elements of a worse Hose of Cosmos
venths lis mos Mee mentioned it he wee sure than they then possessed, but elements also of future bow
it mold he amieed as sides with universal respect. to the constitution of this country. (Ministerial cheers.)
What dos did he AM amitothell in this letter ? It said He could not but see that it, besides householder's. the,
that the imam gave the to wises of extreme violence; had lodgers unless the provisions of the bill wan
that AIM= Were alliall use people who were proceeding exceedingly stringent—who were on the rate hook mil
on their inikary bush= awe stopped in the streets; had resided for a twelvemonth, they would in fact apses\
the )tee woe quite Meibinate sad the 100,000 citizen very near uni 1 suffrage ; and the electors would ant,
(shish they they had WM meth bested of) were he feared, have that intelligence, that independence, and
nanlane be lelenshi at home--(shosee and laughter front the that integrity which the hues ought to aim at securing
ministerial heneht.)—nhilst • few gangs of ruffians tom- when passing a measure of reform. Well, then, with re 1
mitted all garb of outrage, and in one instance went so gard to vote by ballot, he mule not deny the present
far as to thatrey the ballot-box. (Cheers and laughter.) popularity of that proposition. (Hear, hear.) But he did
He (the Char lior of the Exchequer) did not find fault think that many of those who had adopted that proposition
with hon. gentlemen opposite recommending new modes as one which ought to be enacted in an act of parliament, had
of voting : these were subjects which must be investigated not considered all the consequences of their own ems
in this sacred temple of freedom ; but it was to be re- sure. (Hear, hear.) New, it was very true that are
marked, from the instance which he brought forward, that ballot would take away the power of intimidation, hut than
hon. gentlemen opposite only gave them the facts on one side, it must be considered what the intimidation proved, wad
and only urged one class of considt'ratiOns on their notice. what might be the consequence of removing the power ef
(llear, hear.) Well, but his correspondent spoke of intimidating. If the working classes found that their
something besides, and this was indeed • humiliation for a opinions had no effect on the voters, if a• atiellien
reformer. (Laughter.) Ile said that the whig committee took place with the result of which they wins
of the Eight Ward—and in justice to the noble trod, he dissatisfied, end if at the same time they hadWl2
(the Chancellor of the Exchequer) must inform the (louse confidence in the persons who had given their vots be be-
that the whig party in New York was not that party of liceed their dissatisfaction would be much greater than It
which the noble lord was the distingmhed chief and the was now, and they would tither ask that open voting
hereditary ornament—(" hear, hear," and langhtrr.)—the should be again resorted to, or, which was the most pro-
writer said test the wbig committee of the Eight Weed bable result, they would demand to have the suffrage ex-
of 100 dollars to anyone who brought 20 voters to tended to every person. Now he most say that if it came'
vote for the whig ticket. (Loud laughter and cheering.) to that—if the suffrage were so general, and if the puha-
He says the "system of Sibs" is intolerable." Yet all mint were elected for only three years—he must confess, Se
these persons exercised the right of voting in that pre- whatever blame such en opinion might expose him, that he
else way by which bribery and corruption and intimidation did not think universal suffrage, vote by ballot, end • miff
were to be prevented. (Cheers.) There was one paragraph short duration of parliament, couldlong co-she Ma
to which he must refer, because of its legislative import- the other parts of our constitution, the mmarchy sad lhe
ance. In the assembly of the state of New York the hereditary peerage. (Hear, bear.) Such, then, were*,
preamble and resolution to the following effect were agreed dangers he saw in the proposition of his hon. friend. Neer,
tin: "That whereas the use of money at elections, fur the with regard to the duration of parliameet for three years.
purpose of influencing and corrupting electors, is inereas- Triennial parliaments were, as the right hon. gentleman
mg, resolved that a committee be appointed to examine and had remarked, • favourite project of the tory party of
report whether, in their opinion, a lave disfrauchising such former days. Bat the parliament of (heat Britain repealed
penises would be a violation of the constitution of the the Triennial Let ea the greend of increased expire, sad
state." He quoted this to show that corruption existed in on the ground that greater bests and saisseeities lad bees
the state of New York, and that when the people of this known in England under that err ef the kW thee at my
country were toll that intolerable corruption prevailed previous period. This Ise wee the ISIS iodised is the
bare, they were not to ran away with the idea that preamble of the act of repeal; and he maid well
flews in consr_quence of not possessing vote by ballot. believe, that if instead.of Wag elected every ewe or six
m', heer.) He begged leave to say that corruption did years, that house was elected every two porn some would
net peon' la this cannery from the meet M the ballot, but be the senda and that, umweemer, there would be '• great
Wawa the we nog a up. (Hear* and lillonvoniest internees' et the bashes e( theseestry.
las.) Mr net
soy say law, bat Therein% with merest te tide pepentles beim the berm,
less if the lathing them he hail myth* &else bat he isle, se he bed dem IS
=lll2leortheilea. (thier,Yariiilimt :Pim well balms emend greets= essineen mph'. the sense. But the
ilea the feeling of the peps ef had beems St hen ismismen the Onassmee a the Erellegoar—
Wain asystwl in thisand parer sentiments who, he mesa soy, had pee them. the wises
paid sew than berm. . beer.) • laxity time beim the beset with greet ability—(abeam
phut* ashes* less ht the the Sekiendel tade)—bad theughe prayer es refer
ell Mar tibia meshiglirent ttheaterimiled did net of
to a-. hill which he (Lard JAN swell
pew& 000 cheese.) Sin sow inthemee sad epode" bstrodsood while a Meister of the "mom sod bad awn&
Midi paleal the tom of the his, simated elan wee at denared the pithy of the plead palabiloll with
teeth seer ameept the Isms dem had this wee the sedy te the law. lifew-• word or two with !west 10 bell=
snore way delesisleg thisameshe whisk it bight athieelle. Thai& set withdrew by his Maim be wee
lettered of II dime should he assempilied. ) wheat that it bad not given sathhenes { bemuse, Wks
1 have besarthani grid the spa hes. pailseens) witbehe bed remised vinhter a the he druid laystbsendit
great ezeigithilisa vidth Area the ststemma ef the it right to propene the ems& el then bill,
rims
cam ley thth . bee. pethemes and Ito him& I realm- shmild have ming the her le Bo Mee then
ism at the and of Wt seethsibleden • ems its seven peeinsm. Ns should have hes se is the
member dila hens—a gentle nth who spa seavistles•that there were ewe inedians with regard te
this ematim Mimes ao with milleiest ta his the espreenstatisa el the qi which
mittent anA to himself—Ca la 'Nan* the emoitheotien .ef 'the (Hestrrret..l
chests,. Ha saki—" Is • syneallebtriare is whine "Off !fret, he it: that tee of volley, as
one in wen elf Os adult pegensilea saisys the heasihe r laid by the Ast—fixed with very great caution,
Lad I russether the timelines' sheers width lame- and with a fear the franchisee &mild he put lower then
dietel7 tit Hag tellohld Swathes; *. was eitbet elOur sale—wee Ms exclusively confined to
Well, is RIM Way elm MOM vela Minh the of this meat* 'Meer, hear.) Hie
tint 'glom des "DX Melds Agoras 'spade et owe 'es point arils eathely with the gentl-
ing erusl I , that.) I have takes the malt& Tel 4if the lea. ma ham* member for Bbef.
=eatery serene at eilseen of Great Britain for 11142.3, gad ..illeehech), that this wan maameas artisans
sad I have takes the Mak peielatiee in 1841,—be she. la
these man wow lassas Wit" sitars' of the auto . taps: wholual,torgailtthreyrid itnetthisolwr posers
I 1851 were nee the relative prepsenem , the were telly entitled to de se by their
then, although the my Mar • little,
_wield be the .is and integrity • mil his belief was,
leaves,
same. New, eh, la the saws of thing be Great that they neat on Law morel yam leaving
Britsia-1 tea that Memo It is alma is the same . year the franchise se it at yam, MOW there
as the sessum sad nett thseehre be the Onset--withe the. would grow up
_tad- of itheatidestivi amwm 'that per-
nambses of the donors are thus ef the daft mob, Wm ot the workbag &mei, sod that tea the editehand ti
it
Mils is me is wen.' would he men easeillmed te the saalatessms of the sou- ,
Er-, ...., so:: aft dm ea that. ia ask eftiMk they would be mervemithead meths tantaris el
MMus ef Malt pepdaties are se sae he Its. their seem y, if they were lathe peuelenea et the
(Cheer") huddle ills: this at present He believed i
As HOW. DIESIVII—You do sot Weide Ireland. they've.' le We nn hiandes •he believed
The CHANCELLOR of the IIICHEGUER—I bats ad. •• ene atteshidMass le thi emanation CAW Hi THE O=T CRANClRT.—Yesterday a
not Of wares, if I had, the swimsuit hi mind' ;lents h wen' Igen melee. ef pee. Morn lb pardemeat was printed showing that on the
wield mil is ray fa , bees) =bat thesass et be. tb• .or preessNat te rek tlie net litt- 'then 'ln Wee itlitseele and ether Ratters vending
lend ie so asospdenal that drew it est of the queetion al. °natty, te"thissis what might be the •sbilie ef this ler beelines libeeillib et Cliweeet7. ' -
:Zwl, and the is. se, bemuse a separate wressite ne. *comer, hike few years hence, or MOW a way ' MILAIRMIKT 'oollllltantithL—On Friday evening
e that seastry woe introduced by the late peers- short period distress, or Mania el teeth, sand 'emeilidthie treeltsiesin wsawed at elesepvt oa ism&
meat.(Ham Mar.) HIPS alms Iva saillisme-1 Mks kiddie te what wee their piii es figerded OM" ksilig. libbabild Ibbl Abigulll4 diterditile a oho am
theme lire !liens- thent are some dedesthms. We the' (Hear, hear.) harabarin te Milk MO yintlik'ller Inns segestateadent et the Wee-
ms* dethest the may and amy shrewd eat fa Iseired. the he *emit the &Maths el pothement dreald be directed
tetlou Mg tintilgehtiat 1 sandlla;slzeinet with her death,
lialialllDDl 8011.0111dliadar, I wan Meld el say peeve(_ wee. net th.."...areseatilin elf mall bin& at ear be- Ilis„. • . About four
" imi walk
Veb red tgeh toWeir.) Piet
sualtire ilailie,loll. "ass
tissu7s ".
tadwsmm lithartbstbli:g.that "P
ve :rtrues bo- with • of as. Ithditgabet heo lad glir; °the, putty Pm-
,
'jam the arse at Ikeln, the navy wed omen bed tee mill • amber of eiselses te le retained ia seeded, is tip Red Mesa Reek, a precipitous clip, situated
1
Ill* aff=lll/2 Ildoologo, blandn, their lamest paths& In lwingim la the Reform bill ft ea the Want about dammoi_mrters of a Rile lodes
he
_II 000. an demob& merralle, ens the Onset of the gmenment if the thy that no theurpet la this rock, and nthty feet ahem the water,
he efieemlame la every ethons ef Wens I me" Math bereugh Amid be lea with lem this fila nesters ; there Is a cave celled the Fotheis. T. this deagemas
• thus, I vest deduct what me sad yet he believed an less than 14 bersegia bed at sitedime they attempted to arrive, bat the the
=rtilitti I=7ll.4spiellen "—perks who have poem Ism time that ameber. He would set eater into path, *blob ct WIWI' net safe, they
as Imes' at el, whit rtes ad even Illiyme--(a halt the seeds by whisk he hod meet to remedy that detest,. 'hie of the reek (ea . extremely
_perils's' Mehl tbetir way
170,410. Thal allanal• the-whole Muth gegdmioa le bat he ment say a weed erten with tepid le thegliedal they med. 'Ma Pawls Meld the saw Int, sad thee
eases than her Males% sad theeelm the prevails the must wormiest, as it bad bees MOM by steed et Ibillablialea Ida her bath te Om Tim and held
=&beet sae ha haw. (Hem.) !bat is le stmt with. bun. esa. He did set think thrd posy was a out her bui bee the _ payees of ariadatinee RIM Bald-
of imee in amen. it is by ale of the MIMI shish me headed I. wisdom, or whine -mild be math- win by 0 fetish whiffs-heed in Jhelum*. In attempt-
selmas sob she ia Me. , mss I go Weed. The right hea gestlemmt mil the government Mg teillthselemi her Mime sad fell baskewerel into the
hedies Uses ha 14.4 fail 4111 s weed set make am 'hemp is the an of WS& without • ratio ow. pm* is ten het deep. As the reek
WM the ghillie egged the Ms. gmismeadliM thaw nesseeity. Now be (Leal has HAMM whiled le imissiately sadly the cave, there wee se-
le' aim lam twee to te Mew what .. • "leer amen* " meat It teeth the SR. Mr. Blvd, who Pee a little Parthor
the se gem the laths (Hem) did set Mesa the coma minima of sabis mil njuaz.ths:dother rib vf the fie
wino bmr were % ithmed
dmwae bLer 1/ rum
ft
bats igasz.:ll.4lil:9 about ua
on's in 'that
tire dissiiidiwnilisiti maalieria= the smut 111 Or 07 the half es hoer. elie %ft wutsksa.balltaL 8160.1 were
Road
sad • or me ia three. (Chime.) museryviall set be WI Mamas
Whet beemes of Is we bees year after They it knew that the just 1 ekM =1"11:2
autie Amtlih;t.;]-,-.TTIWITt. !he vs"
year ? (Bear, hear.) the stemma mica iv of helm& vase deMei a okay sesesthß mess he ' the *Dahlikliwase. • ilitifthe of • nab
age Nair at leepies_aail at Li or the "ism Mao impediug chi vim They aR Mew that hem
~ mad . whim" the beats had bees oh.
ilkliesitions
mg Mime *lse / (Ohoes".) dribs alieves that petheemenry edema milashinge la the ammeene laws of tale
assieve'eas had to the parents,
spa Mk is eameidele, what the stalamesis mule by the esnatry were perwit IN they meld be Mad DO and into the when - were silting, an-
y:ZS.% who = s.lltrillei mks* all longer. Be awned he than* the senetitstios mead ant u tiA,, ter Wee ad ; they lame-
awe / (C lall•biAlSna In be easy ohs if k vase declared by the odedetees dim hOvid befireumesitigbedy was taken out
sines, la absolutoly little mars me to haromp If of the sad "'heed by a majority ef that of kat e, most hew scene took place.
me i the willies and a of labourers whismehey hems, Om would be granted until • feeling of Mr. re ' .10flpeep, Was in attendee's',
_sod every means
desotyregies to eadesmidee.(amemiguriamirellosow 1 hemmed* l=soilisseed4t, mess. (" No, no," from the minis-oriel of mite Riirfor • long time, bit without avail. The
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Mr. T. HOBIIOUSE •trondcd the motion for adjourn-
, meat.
- -

Mr. ILUME said he trueed tho motion fur adjournment
would bo withdrawn.

Mr. W. WILLIAMS however observed that, represent-
ing, as he did, am of the largest constituencies, he was de-
sirous of addressing the house. and there were several
other members in a similar position.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER espressed
a hope that the motion fur adjournment would be with-
drawn, as there wu a great press of public' business which
it was desirable should come on.

lies. BRIUHT appealed to the hon. member for Lambeth
to withdraw his motion, In order that they might get on
with the bunter, he had himself, though taking the in-
lansiet interest in the subject, abstained from saying any.
Ihkg upon it.
Attar a few words from Mr. PIGOTT.
Mr. HORSMAN hoped the motion for the adjournment
would net be palavered in.
Lord I). STUALIT concurred with the bon. member for
Cockermou h. For his own part, he was quite willing to
forego making a speech, and as the house desired to bring
the debate to a close, he felt sure that his constituents
would approve of the mime. (Hear.)
Mr. WILLIAMS said that after the statement of the
right hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer respecting the
amount of public business to be proceeded with, he should
certainly ask leave to withdraw his motion. (Cheers.)
The motion for the adjournment having been with-
Avow&'
Xe. HUME replied, amid great impatience on all sides.
a, was not in a very fortunote position. His opponents he
was always ready to meet,hut his friends to-night had done all
they could to embarrass. He had been told that it was not op-
portune to discuss the question. Hon. gentlemen forgot
that notice of the motion was given during the last session,
and had he not brought it on after the change that had
taken place in the government. he would hare no doubt
been told that It was from fear of the ministerial party.
(Hear.) Whatever might be the result of the division,he
was satisfied that it wee only by discussion in that house hat
any question of popular importance could be fairly and pro-
' perly settled. There was not one of the statements made by
the right hon. gentlemen to which he (Mr. Hume) was not
prepared to give a direct negative. (" Ott ! "and Laughter.) If
hon. gentlemen on that side of the house were discontented
with hie bill let them propose a better. It was the result
of 'consultation of 60 or 70 members, The right hon. gen-
=ad now thrown down the gainstlet to them, he had
that he was not prepared to support any reform
bispend the limits of the Reform Bill of Itin. The tory
was thus resuscitated—(hoar, hear)—and he hoped
the how mei th• public would make • stand against them.
(Chord)
The lore than divided- -
rot ship motion B9
Against It
The Burghs (Scotland) Bill was committed pro form,
for the purpose of inserung certain amendments.
The Indemnity Bill wits read a third time, end passed.
COPYRIGHT AMENDMENT ACTS.
The house went into committee on this subject, and
passed a resolution on which to found a bill.
COMMON LAW FEES REGULATION (SALARIES).
The report of the committee of the whole house was
brought up, and agreed to.

Tii's house adjotirned at one o'clock.

PAIR/I.—For Mr. linnte's motion, Col. Clifford; against.
Mr. 8. Cocks.
Col. Kemeys Tynte is prevented attending his parliamen-
tary duties b a severe nourslgio attack, which confines
bins to bis

THE ELECTIONS.
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Villiers, sea =ad Bathurst, bee Wider, awl Mr. Mai.
prinostkohloredU themselves sok A
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_kr. Edwmak-
ard
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sitohmako. Mr. &ANA wee hem* 11. P. for East
Weresionhke. and. is, a needissi sniseluoist and free
teach imesed, vary powder an the Olessestershire
Muneolunatez.—Mr. Wziiire has pub-
lished an address to the elation, the cause of his
retireemat. Om the subject et tree he reminds the
electors that, whew elee eseetally avoided win-
Was Tkling.' to any opaesa He aide, " Sink that
bike sem le the eemekeleo Oat the policy of free
Mode INSltilir am& to ,be sae with feisty sea be,
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sa t". babe esoubi !godly jek he any assure which
mitlelsobeleklay le the
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isma semieseise hie Mahon to kms inward as a candidate
hirtbd=lelleasif this beremt, is the room of the
aE. Illeridas. Mot, who has hatimeted
Cs: 111.4:7ditonizolirido
—VW have been enured on
good authority' (says the W. easier Chronicle) that Mr.
Clive bat no intention of oast sting the eastern &video,
and we . et same lestikg yreteetieniits who have aor
eked Hat deer wiliest ems, his return.
W.,;;;/ • The anent meow is that Mr.
hes accepted, xis on the eve of accepting,
the • • Readirrds • that • sew writ for a member to
ltelvlsMwt=i kerel, irtuatiZnarredd Dayt Db
Sir
"des " iIII louse dews &keg 'wtth it and offer himself as
a can dste for the seat epee Derby-Disraeli politica.—
ithersiskiskre' Chrosiek.

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THE EXPRESS, FRIDAY EvENING, MARCH 28, 1852.

Int erantoo.

TO CORRESPONDENTS.
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" Cinniii," is Wanted eyacy Tinarley ae4 Friday piety in num
(or year.
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day of poblicatios.

HIGH WATHK AT LONDON BRIDOH.
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LONDON, FRIDAY, MARCh 20.

LAST night in the House of Commons Mr. Helm
brought forward his annual motion iu favour of par-
liamentary reform, urging in its support all those
arguments, and adducing all those illustrations,
which he has now for so many years been ever
ready and ever zealous to proclaim. Undaunted by
many failures, and undismayed by. the known ma-
jority against him, he proceeded with his statement
of the claims of the unrepresented portion of the
people,:--arguing tor their enfranchiatement,not sitnply
on the grounds of abstract justice, but urging also the
prudence of removing that discontent %bleb is gene-
rated by the fact of a small minority only of the male
population of these realms enjoying the privilege of
voting for those who make laws for the whole com-
munity. He brought down his arguments nearer to
what is thought to be the level of the opinions of his
hearers, by appealing not merely to their sense of
right, but t 5 their material interests. His motion
this year also seems to have been modified somewhat
to the temper of Parliament; for he now asks a vote
only for such occupiers us aro " duly rated," and not as
heretofore for sll who " claim to be rated." Tho ad-
mitted importance of the question at issue—the inte-
rest attaching to it from the meta denunciation by
Lord lhiumv of the "noxious influence of demo-
cracy;" the pledge of Lord bus licssnt. to bring
in a measure of reform, st•.ould he again hold office;
even the shadow of the coming hustings now loom-
ing on St. Stephen's—all these considerations were not
sufficient to fill the house as it is always tilled when
partisan interests are at stake. When place is in
the balance, tho House of Commons is crowded—
when the people and their representation arc for
discussion, the benches are half empty. The members
who really tepreaent the popular interests were at their
posts, and as the debate proceeded the house grew
fuller, whilst all who listened must have felt how

thoroughly all the facts and the wisdom of the
question were on the one side, and the sophistry and
the selfishness on the other. One by one the tory
arguments were overthrown. It was shown how
completely in accordance with constitutional right
and usage is this question of an extension of the
suffrage, and that what is now sought to be dune is
only a revival of powers exercised in the country fur
centuries. Those who aro taxed have a right by law
to a voice in the election of those who shall dis-
pose of the monies of the nation, and this
right it is the object of reformers to extend
to those at present forbidden to enjoy it. The tories
rebel against change, and declare that. alteration in
any shape is injurious, nay, destructive. But in truth,
they are tho true destructive', for they seek to inter-
fere with that overrulit', power which indicates
the law of progress to be the law of life. All
living bodies progress whilst their vitality continues.
To stop is to die. Those who would say to England,
thus far have you gone, but no further shall you stir,
show at once their entire ignorance of our past his-
tory, and seek to act in defiance of higher powers
than those of parliaments or of peoples. Our popu-
lation, our intelligence, our manufactures, our coin-
mei ce, have gone engrossing from the days when King
ALYRLD first planted in this country the rudiments of
that self-government which has through centuries
helped to fashion the habits and the liberties of
Englishmen ; and now, when our material wealth
and our industrial prowess have gained a magnitude
surpassing that of all other nations, the oligarchy'
ho rule us say that our political system shall not be
permitted to expand even in the spirit of the institu-
dons of the great old Saxon King.
The old bugbear of France does service in
all our discussions on the suffrage. Give the
people votes, and, it is said, they will bring about
what has occurred in Paris. Nothing can be more
baseless than this fear. There is no parallel, in the that
place, between the population of the two coun-
tries. In England the people do, and always
have, enjoyed self-government in their several locali-
ties :in France they are not so fortunate. In
England we all enjoy in our parishes what it is de-
sired to extend to our boroughs and counties—a
rating suffrage. Every ratepayer votes for the elec-
tion of those who are to dispense the rates. Each
separate district governs its district taxation and local
arrangements, and this they have done for centuries,
and so its people have contracted the invaluable
habit of self-government. In France, nothing of
the kind exists. There government interferes in
everything; and hence Paris is, and always has
been, France. Conquer the bureaux of the capital
and you conquer the country. In France no public
meetings instruct and prepare men for public life in
the senate. Bred in political helplessness and
overburthened by political wrong, the boron
of the first French revolution reflected only
the sins of that aristocracy whose denial
of timely concession brought on the dreadful
catastrophe which startled—and ought to warn—the
world. But if that lesson is to teach anything, it is
the very reverse of what our tory ministers would
have it do; for it tells of the miseries induced when
a faction have the power to arrest the natural pro-
greed of a great nation in its rational career towards
increased and increasing freedom.
But the tories prefer the, growth of discontent to
the concession of political rights. They would rather
place reliance on old traditions and on modern force,
than on the honesty, and good faith, and good
sense, of the diligent and taxpaying , people of
this country. Men may vote for a guardian
of the poor but not for a member of parlia-
ment; they may have a delegated voice in the dis-
posal of the parish rates but not of the national
taxes. They may say what is to be done with the
20d. in the pound gathered by the parochial collec-
tor, but not with the 7d. in the pound drawn from
them by the gatherer of the assessed income tax. Tho
contradiction is self-evident, and utterly unjustifiable.
But the Tories who now do, and who, it allowed their
own way, will for ever uphold this system of govern-
ing by themselves and for themselves, to the exclu-
sion of the industrious multitudes of this country,
are open to one mode of conversion and one only
—a general election may teach them something.
They pretend a want of trust in the people. They say
Say_ might be willing to give more :votes if they
Irusuld have confidence in the way those votes
woad be employed. The people who farm the
f/side, and fill the factories, and build and tend the
ellinningines, and search the mines, and complete
the inventions,—who fight our battles and who
Wei ever ships—the people, in short, who bear
the hat and burthen of the enormous labour
that man the wealth of this empire—are, we are
told.** to be trusted with votes. They are so
ignorant, and so ticions, and so unreliable, and so
worthless, that even such at them as live for years
is the same plass, and aerated to the local burthons,
lend duly pay thwn—evea this portion of the people
shall have no vein in mammon with their fellow-
°Misses in choosing the members of the House of
Commie. Boob L the opinion of the majority
of our pamast law makers. But at this moment
the very men who make this avowal are about to
appeal to the teeters of the easetw on the question
of -" Protection' The decision et these electors they
say is to bo relied upon foe the anal settlement of
the Bread Tax. The disputes of parliament are to
Ibe referred to the hustings. The elector•s are to be
the umpires. Let them tm the occasion well by
pledging those who ash their suffrages not only to
Free Trade," but to that which alone can secure
permanent commercial freedom and national pro-
gress—let them exact pledges in favour of re
tative reform. Last night there were only trout:
for Mr. Humes motion to 244 against it. If ths
hustings are put to their proper use at the coming
election, we may have a ta.y different result when
the next division Ulm *ace in the House dl
Commons on this esigeet.

Surrty OF WATER FOR BOOTOAMPTOI4.—The
place flied upon by the Government Board of Health for
the collection of wukr in the Nov Forest for supplying the
neighbouring towns with that necessary of lit:, is near
Beaulieu. The Board of Health have, howevir, consented
to allow Southampton to seek, by a biU now before parlia-
ment, a supply of water from Otterbourne springs, near
Winchester.