The Express.
London, England, 1863-06-23 00:00:00

THE FXPETSS, TVESDA.Nr EVENING, . JUNE 23, 1863.
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d • third Rims i great difficulty and delicacy, an expression of opinion on those which existed at preterit, and would not yield any
solution to • state of affairs whisk appeared to be of perio.
repose to givt the subject would be premature. (Hear, bear.)
were °oaten... The SPEAKER then put afterew • that the orders dical recurrence, (Hear, hear.)
Ali the House of the day be postponed mail the notice of motion on . Mr. MONSELL thought it would be very inconvenient
it warn =fair the affairs of Poland." I for the house to allow itself now to drift bete • Polish de.
The home divided : bate, bet he should be tried if the noble lord would explain
For the motion
t committee to Against it
at the objec- 1 Mr. HORSMAN mid that what had occurred wu lo pew Podolia ? He was satisfied that tee people of the duchy
reeding were . and no irregular that it ought •not to be passed over. A bad shown too true • nobility of spirit to desert their
el in the bill . compact had been made between the government and Mr. countrymen for the sake of obtaining any advantage for
l other elec- ' Henneusy that this motion should be brought forward, and themselves. (Hear, hea.)
altboaah the government held to their agreement, this Sir 11. WILLOUGHBY deprecated a discussion which be
ision, and 1 wares bad been taken without notice, aed came by surprise felt would be certain to defeat the end which they must
on the house, sad was in fact a breach of faith on the all have in view. a recognition of the independence of
131 LI,. government, who did not deprecate the discussion. Another Poland. (Hear bear.)
London
and early opportunity for bringing on the subject should be Mr. HENNMJSY bowed to the decision of the house, for
•
peen. nothing could be further from his wish than to do anything
be suss Lord ENFIELD denied the imputations of Mr. Herman, oefemed to the feeling of the majority. He believed that
nom- and maid that be was actuated only by a desire that an im- the .gentlemen who voted in that majority did not
United wtant question should not be discussed prematurely. It materially differ from him upon the Polish question.
He I bed often happened that motions oo foreign policy had been They were all, majority as well u minoriti . in
, but postponed at the request of indepeedent members.
be favoar
dousefo of Pt; oland, atherefore hnd anxious
did not that somtake tethinhe g
divshoulon
d
rani I Lord IL CECIL urged that if this course was to be par. r i wed e
the sued no dependence could be placed on the power of the u anything to do with the merits. (Hear, hear.)
government to conduct the business of the house. Lord Mr. S. FITZGERALD thought his host friend (Mr.
Palmerston was bound, notwithstanding the vote just takes, Hennessy) should consider what was the motive of the house
i. to let all the orders of the day paw by, so that the motion in giving the vote at which it had jut come. It war not
. on Poland might come on. that the boom objected altogether to • discussion upon
Some &amnion followed, in the course of which Poised, but because it felt that it would be desirable that it
Mr. J. BEAUMONT said that he bed not acted in the should first here before it some sort of answer to the prop*.
matter in previous concert with anyone, and bad not skims of her Majesty's government. (Hear, hear.) Though
determined to appeal to Mr. BeeeelleY till be came down se anxious as his bon. friend to have the debate, he would
to the bouts and he expressed his surprise that that gen- put it to him whether it would be possible to bring it on at
Osman had m.d.....0 to his appeal, and so rendered so early • date uTbuteday next. (Hear, hear.) He
a division necessary would now ask two or three question@ of the noble lord.
Mr. PEACOCK); thout the acceding to tbe proposition He wished, fint, to koow whether tbe goverament of Austria
of Lord IL Cecil would bye an affront to the majority who had entirely accepted the proposition of France and Eng-
had voted against the taking by the house of the conduct of land, that there should be a national representation of Po-
foreign again into their hands. land! He also desired to be informed whether Austria had ac-
Lord PALMERSTON—I can aware the house that I eepted the proposal of England and France, that Poles should
taken by ramie, both as to the motion made by my be exclusively employed in administering the government of
hour. friend and mto the decision to which the house has their country ! Lastly, he beged to ask whether the cam-
come. (Hear hear.) Her Majesty'sgoveriment really had munications upon which the-hon. gentleman (Mr. Lsyard)
no wish except to show that courtesy to the hon. member had founded his statement in the earlier part of the evening
for Kieg's County which he had shows to the government would be laid on the table'
by postponing his motion, but of course it must be obvious Mr. SCULLY said that if Russia were to suggest that
to everybody that no government can answer for the house. Irishmen should be exclusively employed in the government
All the government could do was to engage to give those of Ireland the idea would instantly be scouted as an im.
facilities whirls in the conduct of the business of the bones pertinence. He had been requested by Polish gentlemen to
they are able to afford. I should be quite ready to adopt bring their case before the house ; bat he had always told
the proposal of the noble lord the member for Stamford in them be would never lend himself to the practice of such
regard toputting off the orders of the de so that this dia. • delusion upon them ; for Poland would never get any.
memoir might be brought oust a later puled of the evening. thing out of FAO!" but tall talk.
But there are several orders belonging to private member', Mr. WYLD wished to ask the noble lord whether it was
over which the government have no control.. At the same proposed that the constitution which was granted by the
time I am not rare that such a course would be respectful Emperor Alexander, and which constituted • national slimy
to the majority Who affirmed that it is not advisable in the to be officered by Poles, should be carried out!
present state of affair; that a diseuseioa should take piece Lad PALMEBBTON said the proposal of England gad
on the affairs of Poland. (Hear, bear.) II I had thought France was, that there should be • complete amnesty ; and
that injury to the public service would arise from the die. that of COlllllO must be applied to all that had been dose in
cession I should have thought it nip duty to state it to the arms against the Russian government, whether they were
hon. member, and from the way in which he per- in the kingdom of Poland, as described in the treaty of
forms his duties in this house 1 have no Vienne, or in the other provinces. The other proposals
doubt he would have yielded. But I could not say related to the kingdom of Poland as defined by that treaty.
that such • diecamio% would be injurious to the public ear- The six points to which he had referred had been prepared
vice. (Heart I mast, however, state that the mitring ci by his noble friend (Earl Roisell), and had been agreed to
any one of the addresses would be injurious. (Hear. And with some slight modifications by France and Austria.
if the motion had come oe I should have opposed it, and While it was the duty of her Majesty's ministers to state
have stated why the carrying of it would have been Moon- what they bad themselves done, be was sure the home
venient to the government in the present position of the would see that it was not fitting 'for them to enter into way
negotiations. Although a. discussion might sot have been discussion upon the acts of other governments to which this
injuricre,
injure:wet still emotion, if carried, would really have shut country was nos • party. He had omitted to state the
the door against further negotiations. (Hear.) As the names of other governments which had made repreeents-
discumion II not, I presume, to come on to- tons to Russia, and which it would not be regular for him
night, I think it will be satisfactory to the house to give. With regard to the last question which had been
if I state the substance of the communications pat to him, he thought that thin was the wrong time to
which on the 17th of this month we sent to SR Petersburg make any proposal to Russia about the organisation
of the
upon the affairs of Poland ; and I may say that similar Polish army. (Hear, heart
commulioatioes have Men made by . the governments of Mr. W. E.FORSTER expressed ahope that the hon. mem-
France and Austria i and all three will probably reach St. her would not attempt to renew the dewte at so early a
Petersburg about the same time. Now, the government period as Thursday next, and he was quite sure that the
will be perfectly ready to lay upon. the table the despatch noble lord would be ready to afford him every facility for
to which I have alluded. Bat it will be more courteous to bringing on the subject again on • somewhat later day.
the government of Russia to give them • suitable time to He hoped his hoe. weed would give to interval of a few
make their reply. There would not, however, be any im- days atter the answer arrived before he took the discassioo.
propriety in stating the substance of the recommends- Mr. HENNESSY maid he should be most happy to do as
Woos which we have submitted to the Russian government
in concert with the governments of France and Austria. the house should think best in the matter. (Hear, hear.)
He would postpone his motion, therefore, until after the
The recmnLemidatbies are comprised in six points. The first reply of the Russian government arrived, assuming that her
recommendation is a general and complete amneatY' Meer, Majesty's government would then give him every facility
bear.) The next is national representation upon the princi- for brio • g. , forward. mow )
sof that representation which was established by Alex- The motionni
was then by leave. withdrawn.
eder the First, in 1815, in virtue and in execution of
the treaty of Vienna. I believe the Austrian government
LONDON, Itc., DIOCESES BILL.
take some modified view of this subject, hot our opinion is, On the motion for going into committee on this bill,
that to satisfy the jest expectations of the Polish nation re- Mr. G. CUBITT said he hoped that by going into com-
presentation should be upon the footing of the charter mittee they would not be understood to be committing
greeted by Alexander the Firth (Hear, hear.) The third themselves to the general principle as applicable to the
pant is, tLat the Poles alone shall be appointed to all public country at large.
offices,. and that the administration to be appointed shall be Sir G. GREY said he could not see bow it was possible
each as to command the confidants of the Polish nation. that the arrangements of this bill could in any degree affect
(Hear, bear.) The fourth is, that full liberty of mercies°. h committee.
the country at large.
shall be peen, and due protection to the relights of the The bill then pseud throug
people. (Elsa, hear.) The fifth point is, that the Polish MUTINY (EAST INDIA) ACT REPEAL BILL.
language shall be used ie all public transactions and in the This bill was read a third time and passed.
education al the people. The With point ia, that a regular PASSENGERS ACT AMENDMENT BILL.
the
of recruiting shall be estabd, so es to prevent This bill passed through committee.
the recurrence of those proceedings which occurred in
February last And we have recommended in addl. WALKER VESTING BILL.
the, aad strongly urged, a cessation of all hostilities, Thia bill wits read • second time.
Lessees oar opinion is, that unless there be mutual THAMES EMBANKMENT (SOUTH SIDE) BILL.
aiaddswe between the insurgent" upon the one The home went into committee on this bill.
dip sad the Russian_
___lnvernment upon the other, po clause 25,
game reccimmeedatimm cern° cot rest upon any satisfactory Mr. COX moved the insertion of 480,0001. instead of
fesodation. (Hear, hear.) The Austrian government have
700,000/. in this clause. The clause had reference to the
sent resannwedatioas to the some effect. I trust that borrowing powers of the act.
when we are able to lay the despatch upon the table of the Mr. TITE said that the object of the clang° was merely to
house, hon. members will be of opinion that her Majesty's anticipate foods which were already reireeme by means of
government have done everything in their power,. perhaps the coal tax, and charge them on the rates.
not what all might think desirable, but what they think Mr. COWPER said he bad no objection to the amend-
may be &Wooded with suemee (Hear, bur.) I have been moot
imbed by an him' member upon whet grounds my ben' Mr. DOT LTON said that there could •be no charge for
friend the Under &cretin for Foreign Affairs stated
that General Mourayieff had not issued an order 20 years oo the rates of the metropolis. Even if the money
was not sufficient for the execution of the works, the dila•
subjecting ladies in mourning to suffer- cieney to be madec
up from the rem would amount to only
Mfg' and also apse what Prmmila be cur,
other id. in the pound. Bat that contingency was very remote,
atrocities had been committed by the Russian troops. The
-it is founded urn the authority of a Wisps. ors,thit proceeds.trud frowerem theesumremalLodf laste42s,wbooweo the new streets
which, with

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Mr. DOULTON moved that it be read a third time that
day three mirth, If the bill did not propose to give the
company in question more powers than were conferred by
the general measure now passing through the Hour of
Lords, It was unnecessary ; if it did, then It was unfair to
all other compLL rise.
Mr. POWE seconded the amendment.
Mr. A DDERLEY. as chairman of the select committee to
which the hill had been referred, thought that the objec-
tions which had been urged against the third reading were
absolutely futile. The committee bad inserted in the bill
all the restrictions which were to be found in all other elec-
tric telegraph companies' bills.
The amendment was negatived without a division, and
the bill was read a third time and passed.
LONDON (CITY) TRAFFIC REGULATION BILL.
Sir J. SRELLEY moved that in the case of the London
(City) Traffic Regulation Bill, standing order 185 be sus-
pended, and that the mid bill be committed to a select rm.
mitre of fifteen members, of whom ten shall be nominated
by the house and five by the committee of selection. He
hoped he should meet with no opposition to the motion, but
in car of any bon. member being a stickler for the standing
orders, s precedent fur the course was to be found in the
yesr 1839.
Mr. Alderman SALOMONS seconded the motion.
Mr. CRAWFORD said that the Authorities of the corpo-
ration had no wish to embark into legislation on this subject.
They would be perfectly satiated if they were permitted
full o exercise their existing powers of regulating the City
At any rate he hoped the measure would not be
postponed till next session.
Mr. W. FATTEN said be could not see any reason for
departing from the natal course in the conduct of thie bill.
It would be moat inconvenient to refer a bill of this sort to
a committee of fifteen members.
Sir 0. GREY said that the bill in fact was a bill affecting
the whole metropolis. Understanding that the corporation
of the City entertained no objection, he should support the
motion.
Tice house then divided, and the numbers were :
For the motion 96
Against

NEW WRIT.
On the motion of Colonel Tatra, • sew writ was
ordered to be inane& for the elastics of • member for Ber-
wick, in the room of Captain 0. W. Gordon, deceased.
THE STONE OF THE HOUSES OF PARLIAMENT.
Sir M. PETO wished to ask the First Commindonee of
Works whether any contract had been entered into with
Mr. Ssweltuey to street the decay of the stone of the New
Palace of Westminster; and, if so, under what advice the
First Commissioner acted in entering into such further con-
tract with Mr. Szerelmee pending the report of the cotn-
retire which recommended that nothing further be done
in the WI of the process of Mr. Sserelmey.
Mr. COWPER said that no such contract was now pend-
ing. There was • contract in 1860, but no works bad been
done under it, and it was not now in force. As far as the
solution bad been applied, he believed the result had been
favourable.
RELIGIOUS ENDOWMENTS IN INDIA.
Mr. K INN AIRD wished to oak the Secretary of State
for India what measures bad been taken by the government
of India for giving effect to the act pawed by the council of
the Governor-General of India, " to enable the government
to divest itself of the management of religious endow.
meets."
Mr. T. G. BARING mid he believed it did not require
any @pacific measure to carry out the object, but the govern-
ment of India might be obliged to issue instructions with
regard to it.
THE CASE OF COLONEL CRAWLEY.
Mr. CONINGHAM wished bask the Under Secretary
for War whether the court-martial about to be held upon
Colonel Crawley, of the 6th Dragoons, end the consequent
inquiry into the court-martial at Mbow upon Paymaster
Smoke, would take place in this country ; sad whether he
would lay upon the table of the house the official report of
the Judge Advocate-General in England, cm the proceedings
of the court-martial at Mhow upon Paymaster Smales.
The Marquis of HARTINOTON said that Colonel
-Crawley would be called to this country far the purpose of
being tried by court-martiaL (Hear, bear.) With regard
to the second queetiou it was not the practice to lay
the report of the Judge Advocate-General upon the table.
(Hear.)
Mr. CONINGHAM said ho wished to ask the noble lord
another qualities, of which he had given him notice pri-
vately. Since became to the house he had received a note
requesting him to inquire when the pension which bad been
promised to the father and mother of Sergeant-Major Lilley
would harried. They were now old, and the pension,
if not soon given, would be of no value to them.
The Marquis of kIARTINGTON regretted that any delay
had taken place. A communication would be sent in two er
three days to the parents. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. BENTINCK asked if there were any precedent for
hiring an officer to be tried by court-martial in this coun-
try leer set committed in India.
The Marquis of HARTINGTON said he did not know if
there was • preceder, but the Judge Advocate bad been
consulted, and lie entirely concurred in the propriety of the
measure. (Hear, hear.)
RECRUITING FOR THE FEDERAL ARMY.
Mr. FERBAND wished to ink the Secretary of State for
the Home Department whether he had received from the
magistrates or police of Leeds a report stating that agents
of the Federal government of America were recruiting in
that town, and that the men were sent to the American
consul at Liverpool ; if 10, whether he would place it and his
reply upon the table of the house.
Sir G. GREY said that • report had been received on
the subject, which had been laid before the law officers for
their opinion. While the matter was under consideration
it would be clearly wrong to produce the papas.
COMMERCIAL TREATY WITH ITALY.
In reply to Mr. Banrws,
Mr. LAYARD said that the treaty between this country
and Italy had not been signed ; and owing to some difficulty
which bed occurred the gentlemen who had the conduct
of it returned to England for further information. He
treated, however, that that difficulty would soon be re-
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moved end the treaty concluded. first statement . -.. upon , it ..
phic communication made by the desire of the RUASOOI
VACCINATION (SCOTLAND) BILL. government, anxious to have the rumour contradicted. The
In reply to Mr. BUCHANAN, second statement was made upon the authority of • des-
The LORD ADVOCATE said it was not his inteution to patch received by the government, and among other things
Femme with the elation to which his bon. friend objected. the transaction was reported that at Lateen,
PURCHASE OF THE EXHIBITION BUILDING. not far from Wilna, • body of about 120
Lord HOTHAM said he wished to ask the noble lord at . Polish insurgents were surrounded by the Russian forces,
the heed of the government • question with respect to the and that in consequence they laid down their arms
of the Exhibition building. He wished first to and surrendered, and after doing so they were, by the order
ow whether the subject was to be bronght on on Thane of the commanding officer-to whom referent* had been
day ; and, secondly, what was the proposition which the made to know what should be done-rushed upon by the
government intended to make? Russian troops, and of the 120 insurgents 40 were killed by
Lord PALMERSTON said the noble lord by his question the bayonet, and 50 were wounded very severely, and died
anticipated an announcement be was about to make. As afterwards. That statement was made to the government
the papers contented with the purchase of the building upon good authority, and that was what my bon. friend bed
would not be in the hands of members for a day or two, it referred to in speaking of the barbarities of the Rumens,
was his intention to postpone the question of the purchase troops. At the same time, truth compels me to state that'
of the building till Thursday week ; and on Thursday next we have accounts of proceedings on both sides which make
he should request the house to &meet to the bill for con. humanity shudder, snd the prevalence of which was one ,
tiouing the lean for the fortifications. That was more prom- strong reason which urged us to shines the Remise ',
initztin bill would have to pees several stages. government, in order that these atrocities, which are •
ELCHO asked whether the noble lord would lay diagram to human nature, which desolate the country, I
on the table • copy of the contract entered into between which lay waste the products of industry, end which argil
the commissioners and Messrs. Kelk and Lucas, to far as attended with an immense loss of life without any apparent
related to the removal of the materials. result, Mould come-(mar. hear)-end that tranquillity
Lord PALMERSTON was not able to give an 'pewee off should be restored to that unhappy country. (Ham, bear I
band. He would, however, mike inquiry, and let his noble We wished that segotiatioes should commence upon this ,
fined know next week. footing. That is the statement which I have to make, and 1
I hardly think that there would be much use,
THE REPORTED OUTRAGES ON POLISH LADIES. or indeed that it would be respectful to the I
Mr. LAYARD raid that a question had Deem put to him majerity, to press on the motion to-night, be-
lost week as to whether he had received any official infer. cause those who objected to its being brought on might
emotion in respect to a proclamation issued by Genera] Yours- early the motion for adjournment, Bet I uedeuhtedly
vieff, under which ladies were to be exposed to the pun- feel it my duty to give the hon. member for King's
ishmeot of the knout for wearing mourning. Hestated that County every facility to bring on his motion on another dry.
be had received nosuch information. Since that time, I feel bound to say that. and also that when a division was
however, a telegraphic enerage had been received from St. called I did expect the boo, member to rise and give
Petersburg inn which the Ruske government requested mime memos against its taking place. However, I voted in
the government of her Majesty to state publicly that no accordance with my pledge, sod it was not my fault that
such order had Den trued. At the same time he (Mr. the home decided against the discussion coming on to-night.
La)ard) felt bound instate that the reports received from (Hier, hem,
pole end Russia tended to confirm in many respects the Mr. DISRAELI said the proceedings of that night had
statement that inhume, amities were practised. ("Rear. added greatly to the difficulty of leading the business of
bear," and " obi") the house. After the statement which the noble lord, to
CAPTURE OF VESSELS BY FEDERAL CRUISERS. the surprise of all present, bad just made, it wee hard
Lord R. CECIL wished to ask the hou. gentleman °ppm i tn understand what possible inconvenience could have
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aneen from allowing the debate to take is natural
site whether my official luturmation had been received
noun. It was impossible to listen to that statement
respec.ting news of a grave character which bad come front
I without m • considerations suggesting themselves to the
America. It was reported that the American prise court _ .
0. ant . of •
gentomeo on both rides the house No doubt a
decided that if • vessel were caught by a Federal cruiser ; min" t
cewtion of hostilities would he vex." desirable-not- merely
going from one the port to another,
.sad there were ,
i for the sake of putting an end to those mutual massacres
grounds for supposing that the subsequently intended to ran
which were going on, but because everyone must feel that
the blockade, that vessel was liable to seizure.
Mr. LA YARD said that the government bad received leo I. such • etep would form the best lassie for diplomatic action.
But it was doubtful whether the Russian government could
such information, nod he had seen the despatches brought'
by the last mail. at to the suggestion ; mod as for the inmurgent govern.
meat, where was it? What information had her Majesty's
POLAND.-MR. HENNESSY'S MOTION. government with respect to its existence, or what means had
Lord PALMERSTON having moved the postponement of the Russian government or our own of putting themselves in
the order of the day till after the discussion on Poland, oommunicatioe with it' (Hear, bear) On thisoccasion he
Mr. BEAUMONT appealed to the hon. member for the ! (the right hon. gentleman) would not give my opinion upon
Kiog's County sot to bring on his motion, as the question , the probable results of the propositions which her Majesty's
was under diplomatic negotiation, and it would be highly government had made • but one thing was quite clear,
inconvenient. under such cireumsteocee, to have it publicly ' them propositions, if they were accepted, and if they were
discussed in that house. The noble lord at the heed of the ! practicable, would only bring &heat • state of affairs very
Foreign-office promised that he would produce the papers similar to that which now existed, and which must be con.
as soon as the answer of the 110461111 government hod been ! sidered to be of a very provisional character. There ware I
received to the note forwarded from this country. He weld 1 but two possible solution' of this great question-the I Ustivansm Corzgog, LC/MM.—The council at
further, and makt if that answer was not received within a , unity of the Remiss empire, or the iv:depend- • their was en Saturday last spOeted Mr. John Robert
removable time, be would produce the note which be had ' moo of Poised. (Cheers.) Them would both be Seeley, M.A., Fellow of Christ's etc, Cambridge, senior
forwarded without the reply to it, intelligible policies; and no doubt in a diminution medallist, 1857, to the professorship of Latin Language and
Mr. KINOLAKE supported the request, and eaid that I upon them much might be said on both sides ; but the pro Literature, which will Moms yam* at the end of the
the house was not in a position to discuss the question he pceitions of bee Majesty's government appeared to have current session, in consequence of the retirement, for private
absolute ignomees of what the government had done. ! entirely the character of a mere diplomade isterfereme- end domestic reseona, of Professor Newman. In compliance
Lord ENFIELD mid he could not =Delo from ember . and • mere diplomatic interference could not produce an, with • proposal of the head master of the junior school,
how cordially he emdereed every word that had fallen from effect upon the circumstances with which her Majestys Professor le-e7, the wooed have appointed Mr. W. A. gem
the lips of the hon. gentlemen. The question of Poked was government bad to deal. He could ace help saying that viee.reester of ilia school, and have antherind the edebbeb-
EumE
one of great magnitude and importance, whether with regard considerations of the peace of which be was sore meet of a preparatory deportment for boys of egos from
to the Formant or the future. During the ten yeses that be ; every me, whatever opinions he mht hold, would wish to 60•00 to eleven, to be kept separate from older boys
Ind been s member of the house he remembered how careful . preserve-be could not helpsayfin t t those consideratiom
the house hod always been, when Degotiatime were in pro- would sot gam much from the policy which the noble lord Hospital. disrensary, and private practise. all furnish lemma-
s/gas, to refrain from uttering any expreericou that could had shadowed out to•night. He could Dot say that that I Da. na JONCilell LIOBT-BROWN COS LIMIIt OM
table cams in which Dr. de Jonah's 011 km been administered
fetter the beads of the executive, but whom the negotiation , policy was one which was at all distinguished by preecieoce, with the happiest results In Conmunction and all Messes of the
had been completed the boon bad dwelt berm readto en- - by ingenuity. at by • firmness which was calculated to lead Chest. No remedy so rapidly restores the sahmisted strength.
nonoce ice opinion. He could not help thiakiag that a delay to any satisfactory result. It appeared to him that the Improves the nutritive ttloooolll, 0.096 or Mininitims email.
lion chocks the pempiratlon, neighs the cough and ereectors-
of some weeks in regard to the proposed discussion would noble lord'. propositions, even if accepted-ad be would be we. or pr.A.,......,...L0red and ri,,,,,,,,,,big hemgli
not be disadvantageous to the cause of Poised. He could • sanguine polieselen who could suppose that they would be Ike '1..1 ..i.gg._..pag only la °spouted bottles.
not help saying, with all reaps= end defenses= the bus. i accepted by ROMilb—would only raise • phantom of Polish as ed. end ie-, by as. 4, Jonefe ague= mem Earfe
atl rd. ant
gentleman 'ppm* list at • memat like the prininked ' ladepeadesse width most lead to similar majoactiens to ON, 11, lieresd. Iona" and chmelam-fnasertleam

Were
tbe balance of the 2,481,0004 from the Wal kir and' Wine
004, would make 900.0004 On this they
dues, mutely 481,0
proposed to borrow 700,0001.
An Horn. MEMBER bore observed that 40 members were
not present, but during the operation of the count a suffi-
cient amount entered to make up the requisite number.
After a few remarks from Sir J. fiasiter the amendment
was agreed to.
On clause 29,
Mr. COX complained that it was by this clause p
to pledge the rates of the metropolis as security in ad ition
to the coal tax end wine dues, which was contrary to the
original proposition.
Mr. HOU LTON said the object of pledging the meo-
litan rates as additional security was to enable the Board of
Works to raise the money on more advantageous terms.
By no doing the money would be got one-half per cent.
cheaper.
Mr. COW PER said the proposition was not one of his, bat
it was no pressed upon him by the Board of Works, that
he consented to it, although be admitted it worn • doper-
ture from principle in some slight degree.
Sir J. SHELLEY said there was a distinct pledge given
that the rates of the metropolis should not be pledged for
the workrAkroomed.
Mr. TITE said there was not the slightest fear that the
rates would be charged to the extent of a single shilling,
while by giving the rates as collateral security the money
would be raised at a cheaper rate.
After some further remarks the clause was agreed to, as
were the other clauses of the bill.
On the report of the Pier and Harbour Orders Confirm-
lion Bill various amendments underwent discussion, with
especial reference to the construction of a pier at Rhyl.
Mr. BASS moved the recommittal of the bill.
This motion, after a king debate, was carried by 50 to 19,
and the house went into committee, when the motion that
the provisional order of the Bo of Trade for tbe con-
struction of a pier at Rhyl be reinstated in the bill was
agreed to, upon a division.
Sir Robert Hitcham's Charity Bill and the Rothin
Charities Bill passed the committee.
The Local Government Supplemental (No. 2) Bill was
reed a third time and passed.
The bones then went into committee upon the Poor
Removal (No. 2) Bill, and commenced the discussion of the
aumerous amendments of which notice had been given.
The first of the amendments of the first clause, moved by
Mr. C. TURNER. baring been raffled.
Mr. HERBERT, who bad introduced the bill, moved that
the chairman report progress, with the view of considering
the course he should take in regard to it.
The motion, after some conversatlos, was agreed to.
PRISONS (IRELAND) BILL.
Sir H. BRUCE obtained leave to intrados* a bill relating
to prisons in Ireland.
Viscount RAYNHAM obtained leave to iairoduce the
following bills :—To amend the Nuisances Removal Ant for
England, 1856, with respect to the seizure of diseased and
unwholesome Meet ; to prohibit Unqualified Persons from
the Practice of Midwifery; and for the Preventicai of Ac-
cidental Poisoning.
These bills were read a first time.
The other business was disposed
of, and the house ad-
journed at half-past 11.

Kato Internam&

COURT 07 QUEEN'S BENCH.—Joni 22.
star Term Sittings at Nisi Prins at Westminster.—(Balaira
Lord Chief Justine Oookbarn sad a Elpscia July.)
DICKSON R. LORD 0010411.1011 RID °THU&

After our report left yesterday,
Mr. Bovill Addressed the jury on behalf of both Gesend
Peel and Lord Oombermere, on account of the Ationser
General, who represented General Peel, being engaged
the Court of Exchequer is the Alexandra ease. He said
that both of them appeared before the wart more in the
character of plaintiffs than as defendants, to rebut the
foulest and most malicious slander that had been cast upon
them by Colonel Dickson. The plaintiff had said that he
brought thin action for the purpose of vindicating hie
character, but throughout he had vilified, smiled, and
maligned every h. pourable man connected with the Waimea-
tions, from Lord Combermere and General Peel down to Mr.
Isaacs and that notwithstanding a letter he received in
1858 from General Peel stating that he was dismissed for
mismanagement in the internal affairs of the regiment, and
that no attack bad been made on his personal character or
honour. He should have thought Lieutenant-Colonel
Dicknoo's character bad been tolerably well vindicated when
he received such a statement from General Peel, and mote
especially after the two &dims be brought against Earl
W ilton and Major Walker, the whole facts of which had
been published to the world; and he wan at a loss to under-
stand what reason there was three or four years after-
wards to bring forward the same case, so far se vin-
dkation of character was concerned. The plaintiff appeared
to have a settled vindictive feeling against LordWiillttoonn
and • determination to pursue him in every possible
way, by libelling him in pamphlets and in the public press
and in order to set his Own character right he assailed two of
the moat honourable men in this country, General Peal
and Lord Combermer• The charge had been made in the
most extraordinary manner aid after the lapse of many years
since the circumstances waned, and then only by this
action, which charged General Peel, Lord Combermazerie di
Lord 'Wilton with conspiracy to deprive Lieut.-
Dickson of his oMre, by wilfully and maliciously making
false representations to her Majesty. He rejoiced that the
defendants had now an opportunity of clearing their charac-
ters from the foul aspersions that bad been made spirt
them, and the more so that they would be able to do it
more from documentary evidence which was unmistakeable
than by oral Matsuura, and which when placed before
them would give a different impact to the ease ; bat Lit it
not be said that any one was to blame except the plaintiff
himself for bringing three documents out of the War-Office,
and which be would regret to the List day of his life.
After the learned counsel had spoken fora considerable
time,
The Lord Chief Justice suggested the adjournment of the

oonrt.
The cue mu then adjourned till to-morrow (this day).

COURT OF EXCHEQUER.—JUNE 22.
THE CASE OF THE "ALELANDILL."
(Continued from yesterday's Express.)
Mr. John T Crater -lam a shipping agent and a steam-
boat owner. I know the firm of Miller and Sons. I know
the senior of the firm, and 1 know the men who superintends
their yard. In February 1861, Mr. Thomas Miller took
I
me on board the Oreto. n September, 1862, I again went
to their yard. I then saw the Phantom, which is now em-
ployed in the Haman trade. I elm saw the Alexandra when
she was being built.
The Queen's Advocate said he intended by way of form
to put a similar question to that which his lordship bad
already held to be inadmissible. The question was whether
Mr. Miller told witness for what purpose the Alexandra was
intended!
The Lotd Chief Baron held that the question could not
be put, as whatever Miller maid could not bind the defen-
dant& Such a question might, perhaps, have been allowed
in the time of Charles IL, but now one man could not ma-
kes another man's guilt.
The Attorney-General reminded his lordship that Mr.
Miller wee included in the information.
The Solicitor-General said if this evidence were not ad-
missible the act of parliament would become entirely
nugatory, and expressed a hope that his lordship would
review his decision. If the learned judge's view were correct
it would only be necessary for some person to come forward
and claim the veiled to prevent* evidence being given to
support the f.wfeiture.
The Queen's Advocate, Mr. Locke, and Mr. Jones, were
heard on the mine side.
Sir H. Cairns having replied,
The Lord Chief Baron said it was very much to be la-
mented that this was the filet time the Foreign Enlistment
Act, passed 45 years ago, Led been brought in question in a
court of justice, and that he had no precedent to guide him
as to the proper course which should be pursued. He owned
that when he first took up the record he imagined he was
trying whether the defendants, who came in and claimed
the ship. and put themselves on their trial, had been guilty
of a' misdemeanour ; sod applying to the case all the rules
of the criminal law, he certainly felt that no man could be
made guilty of any crime whatever by the admission of
some other party ; but the question here mightlbe, not
whether any one was guilty of misdemeanour, but whether
the vessel was properly seized and forfeited. As it was
now four o'clock, he proposed to adjourn the court, and en-
deavour, with the assistance of his learned brethren, to see
whether the evidence was admissible or not. At the same
time, considering this es a question of an indictment for
crime, be should certainly have been of opinion that if he
had received the evidence he should have endangered the
verdict.
The Attorney•General—We should not have tenderedthe
evidence in such a case.
The Lord Chief Baron—l will give my judgment to-mor-
row morning.
The court then row.