The Express.
London, England, 1852-12-03 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT
HOUSE OF LORDS.—litmsoia, Dec. 2.
TA, Lora CRANCILLOIL took his seat at five o'clock.
PETITIONS PRESENTED

111 Pot Et.ucr of P. .41iILLEN,
from Kills:shall, ia Tyrone, praying for an inquiry into the
tosiluet of the Roman eat'Ailio clergy at the last general
election.
11 tvgoont.—By the same noble earl, from the same
place, against the endowment of Maysooth.
MAYNIOIII.—NUCICE OF MOTION.
The Earl of WINCIIELSRA gate notice that he would
es a future day mote for a committee of inquiry into the
principles of the system of education, moral soil
taught at Marmot's, such committee to report whether
that system Is a., se was aut, at ',lnoue with the principles
of Mel mad religious liberty.
COMMERCIALyouCY OF TUE COUNTRY.

Tb Marquis of CLAN/MANDE mid that with Jas.
eras SO the conversstens which bad taken place the other
evening, he would shortly state the view he proposed to
take of the tisolution which it was his inteution to move,
and which be though' that hawse ought to adopt. Ile
stated the other eventeg teat he RDA most desirous to ob-
tain from the house an unanimous, or as neatly as possible
unanimous, rd. on a seers eu great se that to which the
resolution referred. lie thought it would have bees
at the greatest possible advantage, if the noble lord had
considered it tight to adopt the resolution which had
best agreed to by the Hesse of Commons—there would
have been great force and weight in adopting a concurrent
vote; but he we., free to say that he thought there would
also be greet advantage iu recording the opinion of that
house to be unchanged, such as it was when it pissed the
measure in 1e46, and soh as it had been proved to be os
different ore MOM wither. that time, when the commercial
policy of the country had been discussed and affirmed
to that house telear. Lear.) He considered it would
be s great aosintage to leave en unanimous, or nearly
unanimous, vote on the subject, and to avoid all
those per. snel reenininetions and attacks to which
antortnuately the euloect might lead, but which
could 1., of no poetic law fit. With this view, it was in-
deed his hope that the noble earl would have accepted the
resolutions adopted by the House of Common.; and he was
mach sun d when the tibia curl stated that he had an
objection to thew resolutiuns. He was not going to can-
vass the grounds of thee. objections, as they might be indi-
cated from anything which had fallen from the noble earl
on the occasion he refereed to, or as ho might super's them
to be; but it ho I been his desire to find words a finch might
accost weh the suggestion throws out by the amble earl,
is order to Lurie., ea nearly m he could, the main object
IMP had to view—amuck), rammatonag of as 0p.., h.
on the subject is that how by a large majority, if
not unanimously. although he might be defeated
in obtaining &concern:at vote with that of the other house
of pardassent. He bad therefore thought it right to take
the motion which was made by way of amendment by the
right Wm. the Chancellor of the Exchequer in the Boise
of Commons, and upon tuat to frame a resolution tor their
lordships, which would he in substance and meaning the
same, but which should cmtaia some difference sit language
which he thought on canstitutMaal and other grounds it
might be advisable to make, without introducing any
matter that might be de..tned objectionable to any of their
lordships. Ile had conf,rred, however, with the noble earl
opposite, and he approving rather of the words in which he
himself had en ode the draft of • resolution, he would not
give the house the trouble of dividing, or entering into any
veokut and warm die 4,4D01:1 on the subject, provided the
noble earl would concur in ailopting a form of words which
should @sprees the meaning they wanted to convey in the
least objectionable term. He would read the resolution
Which be had peeper".., and which he intended to have
offered to their loriships provided it had been accepted.
But this he thought it right to say, that if he had found
himself dries n to a contest—to a hostile controversy in that
house and to • division—he should have thought it his duty
to make • eland ou the resolution peered by the House
of Commons. He would not have forgone the advantage
which be should have had in being supported by so
high an authority, nor would he have abandoned the
chance of obtaining that which ha wished a much, namely,
a concurrent vote of that with the other house of parliament
on this important subject. (Hear, bear.) Ile wished,
however, that the matter should nut be further disused,
and he should, therefore, not uppere the ad iption of the
form of words which the noble tail thought most advisable.
lie thought it proper to slate the resolution which he Lad
considered most fitting:—" That this house ackoowledges
with satisfaction that the cheapness of provisions scasioried
by recent legislation has mainly contributed to improve the
condition of the country and menus the comforts of the
industrious classes ; tied that unrestricted competition
having be.. adopted. after due deliberation, as the principle
of mar commerehil system, this house is of opinion that it is
wise awl expedient e.r.eerreilly to adhere to that policy."
lie taw nothing in risen a reeolution which any noble lord
on the other eide of the h Mee could object to. He only
hoped that the opinion of the house might be recorded in a
satisfactory manner, and he did not wish any repetition of
the hottle controversy which they had had on the subject.
All that he felt to be necessary in a constitutional point of
view was that there 6)1,1)4 be, at a tame when parliament
had assembled to swiss an opinion upon a great comfits.
timid question, a resulut.en of that, as well as the other,
house of parliament on the subject; and he only wished
such • resolution to be adopted as they could concur is
without any dereliction of principle—he should he contest
if the opinion of the how,* was recorded in such language as
would best express its feeling on tier subject.
The Earl of DERBY expressed his satisfaction at the
calm and deliberate manner in which the noble mar
lad mated the question ; and in the position iu which the
toiletry was now placed, he mast say that be wished, with
the noble inuquls, that this question might be decided by a
neolution, coached in such terms as would have the least
passible chance of brit:gig:goo •eonflict of minion. Altheugh
• he might not perhaps himself have taken any great objec-
tion to the terms of the nehle marquis's motion, because he
believed the cheapness of provisions, combined with recent
legislation, had contributed to increase the comforts of the
washing classes, yet be thought it more advisable that they
WWI sot raise a discussion, which was invited by the
womb et the noble marquis's resolution, going back as to
what degree and extent the cheapness of proviaions
had bees the main cause of increased comfort to the labour-
ites AWN but beyond that, the noble marquis assumed
hoseeseedaperity in the country generally. His (the
Zed of 'M objet-t woe to couch the reedetin ia seek
MIMI& the adherence of their lordships'
held is Ilse sow sanctioned by the vote of the
Hesse of and which, he was Wad to say, bed
eye bed neestiessiiby the general opines of the country,
and at the coma time to avoid sate ee as topic with
reseed to the post w hick 'mkt by • retlamilema
teenseg. AM be • the assl
them wig with him were embed nen beady to neon the
hope of adherence to that polio., whisk, ke was bound to
say, the emstryv,ol4 liege Majority, bad sledded its de-
teemisaties to wadi lied aped their Menet by
dealing dit the tend estrandist the teems ag the n-
oddies van clear sal 4aoft as misled the /glen.
(Heer, !teas.) no tines of the reed be
deed to submit to their hodeliipe* maddesaliesa and
be dead be happy to phase Is the oldie Minivio's
_heeds,
is ante that be might eon it as a roulades heesilit ter-
slt
wtlddeolf, were " flat this Musethlslhlly
a the mere' preedeft, end deeply onsibie
M the eosi at slesstimat on (jetsam Omen ie the Soessial
=of do onsery, adheres to the eenneseled system re-
eatesibled. sad would view deb nine aay re-
sewed to &nab is edeadas de impede its pro-
pos" Is lethe future, that wee se esemened
eel Aden es of tho plicy et One made as ertm
sells lords se 1M ether ids of the Woes emir f.
t.) At the same dime nosy night MOW I. the
nesistiest who might bare dumbed he
N 1 sole.
to!
sod piny of the meson adopted Is
sow If it wseealsyrstisamols, wadi bee to ass a dif- •
need ; Whole woe yet ommille ef de
nib of= sheep Is eve dessdal piny eadinamei 1.13
wWi !Weir tap ajlelaireselt.".
assaisees Is the adisesses or the polity width bad raw
Mss bettema els sad sena yeses dim
to died* with moat moos a greet
• sir i the osootry, and interfere erhthe
maw, IMMOMMOS of business. It was on those emends
the he mend submit the words of his resolution to the
sate metteie. sad whisk be wee glad to hear he would not
be _sonar to wept. Whether he would wish it to be
= Mace sr on a future day, would be for his coast.
eintiaily joined with him in the desire that
this qweetten et the egtation as to a protective or a free
made lIIMMIM deed ha put an end to, and that there
alienbt be me emuswal attempt to disturb the existing system
Im datum. (Meer, hear.)
The Mama of CLA.NRICAIIDE would adopt the
• MOAN whisk*, wile earl had suggested, instead of his
eon essolatlem. Lacking at the importance of the ques-
tion, he did ast Mak it wee due to the bouts not to let the
Min Meng Ass Illemday, although he did not anticipate
say dmmedes epos It on that day.
The Earl of lILLINHOROU Oft (who spoke from the
cross beseheo) the ht the noble marquis had better mew
wider the eldhisse,, mod move the resolution them He did
eel disk Rey neolodes asassary ; but, if that dila bad
bed owed Gs some peedesed until Monday, they might
Len a sossup urn ; when's, if it was moved this,
they would be sum sat to. (" Hear, hoar," sad a laugh.)
Mtn a paw,
The Earl ef DUST said he did not knew whether the
noble mum* MI made up his mind to move the easels-
tile then, se to postpone it until Monday. He thenht
there was groat good sew in the suggestion of the Wt.
earl. (" Hear," and • laugh.)
The Marquis of CLANRICARDE thought it would not
be desirable to depart from the rale generally adopted. If
on eo actions a question, and one which had occupied the
House of Commons for several nights, they were to dupe
the course now proposed, it might be drawn into a
dent for moving important resolutions in future wr=
previous notice.
The Earl of DERBY hoped the noble marquis did Set
think the length of discussions in another place ought to
be any precedent for their lordships. (" Hear," and a
Laugh.)
Their lordship then adjourned at a quarter before six
o'clock.

[The difficulty of hearing is the Reporttrst 13.11eq, ma-
lei peen raise their voices to rather a high pitch, is most
painful Both the Marquis of Claariearde and the Earl of
Derby spoke last night I. a lower tone than anal, ash
were most indistinctly heard. we trast some further steps
may yet be taken t, facilitate :ho performance of a duty
so essross and responsible es that which dtvolres on re-
porters is this branch of the legislature.)

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—Tuutsurr, llac. 2.
The SPEAKS& took the chair at the weal boar.
PUBLIC BUSINESS.
PETITIONS PREBBN IRD.
C I. PALM:I.—By Mr. COWAN, bum Edinburgh,',
against opening on Sundays.
COILEI:rr l'sacricu AT E•scrioxs.—By Mr. GREEN-
ALL, from Warrington, praying fur measures to put a
stop to such pm/Dees; Mr. HUME, from Mr. G. F. Bor.
holey, who was a candidate fur West Gloucester at the last
election, to the same drat, complaining of bribery and in-
timidation at that election, and praying further for a special
ii.quiry. The hon. menilmr intimated an intention of
taking further steps in the matter on some future day.
TENANT ltiowr.—By Mr. BELLEW, one from the
catholic clergy of the usciesse of Team, in favour of.
lutist Poou LAW.—By Mr. OTLAHEItTY, one from
the Board of Guardians of the Ulenanraddy Union, in the
county of Galway, setting forth certain statistics relative to
the financial state of the union, and praying for inquiry into
the expenditure to La'iour Rite Act. A similar from the
electoral division of Ballymai, in the same union, to the
like effect.

Liu lIT Dets.—Dv Mr. S. FITZGERALD, one from the
merchant traders, shipowners, and others of the town of
Camarton, praying for a reduction of the charges for pilot-
age, light dues, port discs, etc., to enable the carriers of
merchandise by sea to enter into competition with the car-
riers by railway, which, owing to the burdensome nature
of these tones, they are at present unable to do.
IRCANTII.I LAW.-13y Sir J. ANDERSON, one from
the Provost, Magistrates, and Town Council of Dunferm-
line, praying that the house would cause inquiry to be
made into the present state of the Scotch and English
mercantile laws, with a view to a general revision, amend-
aunt, and consolidation of the different branches thereof.
Also one from the same panies, praying that the house
would enact a law for abolishinkr the preset system of
resident and non.re-ident *limas, and for having each
Sheriff Court presided over by a single resident judge, and
otherwis:. to remodel and improve the constitution and
working of the Sheriff Courts.
ELECTION PETITIONS.

The SPRAKKR announced that the recognisance, en-
tered into by the parties petitioning against the late return
fir Kidderminster were unexceptionable; also that he had
received information that the petition against the return
for Cockermouth would not be prosecuted.
NIARKETS COMMISSION (IRELAND).
Mr. SULLIVAN asked whether the Secretary for Ire-
land would ham any objection to lay on the table the in-
structions under which the Market Commissioners were
pursuing their inquiries in the various market towns in
Ireland ?

Lord HAAS prow.ised that the required documents would
be produced at au early day.
GENERAL COMMITTEE OF ELECTIONS.

The following gentlemen were sworn as members of the
General Committee el Elections: Mr. BMses (chairman),
Bir J. Trollope, Mr. It. E. Denison, Mr. IL. Palmer, Mr.
Deedes, and Mr. Dlonsell.
Mr. HUME toot that opportunity to impress his hope
that steps would be taken to diminish the enormous num-
ber of oaths required from members of that house.
CODIFICATION OF THE LAW.

Mr. PHlLLlMthiiuked the Secretary of for the
Rome Department whether it was the intention of govern-
meat to bring forward any tumours fur digesting the law of
England into a code?
Mr. WALPOLE was understood to answer in the nega-
tive. (We may here mention that hon. members generally
speak in such low tones in these short dileaallisilf as to
reader the to of reporting their observations more than
ordinarily difficult.)
Mr. PHILLIMURE said that in consequence of the
answer of the right hon. genth man it would be his duty to
move at an early day as address to her Majesty praying fur
• oommission to digest the l►w into a code.
_______ IHE FRANCHISE. _

Mr. HUME begiCa7pinuantt;naice , to ask the right
hon. the Chancellor of the Exchequer, whether it was the
I intention of her Majesty's government to introduce any
I measure for the extension of the franchise, the protection of
the voters, and the equalisation of the number of electors to
the number of representatives.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER.—When it
is the intention of her Mejesty's government to introduce
any measure for the extension of the franchise, the protec-
tion of voters, and the equalisation of the number of elec•
tors to the number of representatives, they will think it'
consistent with their duty to give formal notice of that in•
teution, not thinking it respectful to the house that any
such intention on their part should be first made known to
the country in an answer to au inquiry from an hon. mem-
ber of this Lou,..
THE VACANT SEATS.

Mr. M. GIBSON asked whether it wu the intention of
tuella:cent to revive the bill of lain parliament for appor
honing the four vacant outs ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER.—I con-
sider that subject also a part of the great subject of peo•
greasiest reform, and should prefer wit► respect to it, to
gave more formal Outlet, than could possibly be elicited
under circumstances like the present.
UNIVERSITI COMMISSION.

Mr. PHlN2lascetitieieent;;74;lBtateior the Home
Department, whether in consequence of the report of the
Cambridge University COMMiIMODSTO in reference to King's
College, Cambridge, her Majesty's government were pre-
pared to recommend to the authorities of Eton College to
concert mtioures with the Provost and Fellows of King's
College, for the Improirement and extension of the two
foundations ?

Mr. WALPOLE said that the report of the commissioners
had been forwarded to the heads of colleges at both uni•
versifies, requesting their comments both es to their particular
colleges and to the universitin generally, and it had also
been thought right to send a copy to Eton College, as being
so intimately connected with King's College, Cambridge.
When the answers were received, they would be laid on the
table.
PROBATE.
An Sox. Mauna& spieled to know whether government
intended, daring the present Kunio, to introduce a bill
obviation the necessity ci plurality of probate to one will ?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that

W lesetlea w before the
bowies.

of tastaamataa

NOTICE OF MOTION.

111.11ZA AND KRXIIINOTON.-Sif DR L. EVANS—
Oa the introduction of say maitre to repair the defi-
ciencies in the represenuition, to propose that members ha
gives to Chelsea and Keseiaitton.
DERBY MAO IST BATES.

Mr. HlNDLiiiaiik;brtie; Rsra;True that these
gentlemen—Messrs. Cox, Hsieh, and Hid (u we tinder-
etood)—had recently been platted on the 'maisterial beach
in Derby, they having previously be.. wive partiaue of
the tory candidate ? (Order.)
Mr. WALPOLE said he bad auertaisul Rein ea Lend
Chancellor that that high functionary bigots*, memerial
of the inhabitants of Derby, appointed thue gostlenten of
the highest respeotability and local outsells, to the sighs
Jury in du room of throe penult who, having hem ap-
pointed is the Rufus year by the late Lord Chaneence,
had sot yyaaliled for the °Moe. (Hoar.
ENCUMBERED IMITATES (=LAND).
Mr. MONSIILL asked whether t intended
te renew the Reessalsend Rotates (Ia this mica ?
Mr. WALPOLR would Newer today.
RATEPAYING CLAUSES OP THE MORN

Sir D. L. EVANS ease,paismat r asthma. ea novo fir
leave to Was ia a bill to sawed It e kaa=at at
rotas sal taws Ike the lesilwr wad
gallant sastahar. *he was amt. was misastaad
to • est his ISE was idemisal wilt that whisk bad
bass ropsaladip saaalleast thall brass, boa
Mee so "massed " bp do Muss M Li* lad
as •rbasitr to
undeniable, a swab*" al Mem The WU la ha mi-
sled has Mei toasty le ths d mallrim bs paid balm Oa Seth hay as the
&saw is vets. TM Ham .1 Loris sabstAtatod hasty,
sad his alOst was to nom the arlabal ditto.
Mr. WALPOLE said that while aillag his mamas to Eta
laarahestisa of ths
err Mai
ma* la awbsaissil as marring
the gawks of dais Orr fairs saasidearlisa.
Hs. T. Dv Neon= mast wan his paslag wilt this
assampsawskt of Mie mess* general's as big addsatery
ft tits "Ade. Mat IM pablis wasted was ea get rid of
tai `"lawns of the Bah= Bin, so that ratan is
=s plased la al !Leahy with Man is
( . ham) WA., Ihs MR ad dr ashes lord the
amber he Lei" wilit bra boss WNW to as sot
oft far saute% aiitlallb damns altar.
thar. (Hear, brar.) Vadat Moo raariarrsees, ha mast
',put his pseud spina ths MUM bill.
LAM IWO&
BUDDHISM IN CEYLON.
_ _

Mr. HuNErc«tonSWfci copiesof allthe eorresgssd-
mace respecting Buddhism and the Buddhist priesekiski
before the select committee on Ceylon affairs, and Mee
printed by the committee in the appendix to their mares.
Tho boo. member said that the question was one of the
deepest importance. He had been glad to hear on a former
seeming that government intended abiding by the treaty
obligations of 1815. But he regretted to add that papers
had come before the Ceylon commits e, showing that much
irritation had been created in the missy by • different con-
duct on the part of the present Berl of Derby and Lent
Torrington. His object in movies fee these papers true to
let the house see by their production how very great the
danger was of interfering with the religious ceremonies of
• people.
Sir J. PAKINGTON said he in • great meant* ma-
curred in the view tabs& by the Don. member, and begged
to repeat his told= that the treaty with the King of
Kandy should be WA inielele. He had, however, made
himself acqueiseid with the eesteate et the papers now
moved for, sad very math domlsted whether they would
bear out the views of the boa. member as to the danger of
interference. The ►ea. member had himself been a mem-
ber of the Ceylon committee, and would recollect why these
papers had been withheld from the report. It was feared
that their publication might have increased the then exist-
ing excitement. As • general rule, he wee moat anxious to
furnish information; and with regard to these particular
papers, he was in hope, there would be no objection to
their production, bat be was about to attempt to calm the
incitement in Coyle'', by sending out a communicate's to
that colony, and he had sanguine hopes that • plan might
be suggested which, without unfairness towards the Budd-
hist, might satisfy the Christian inhabitants of Ceylon.
Under these clrcorestancee, be put it to the hon. member
whe•ber it would he expedient to peer for the papers.
Mr. TUFNUL, who bad also been a member of the
Ceylon eommittee, advised the hos. member to withdraw
his motion.
Mr. HrSIE felt much grstifled by the right hon.
baronet's explanation, and, feeling that in eliciting that en-
pla•ation he had obtained his principal object, he had now
no difficulty in withdrawing his motion.
Motion by km withdrawn.