The Express.
London, England, 1852-03-20 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.
HOUSE OF LORDS.—Famtr, NlAucri 19.
The IA)111) CRANCILLOR took big stet al 1 o'clock.
PHESEN

ECVLUILITICAL BILL.—IIy Lord MONT-
EAGLE, from a parish is Limerick, an Beat this bill.
IiIIANT TO MATXOOTII.—Hy the Earl of CAItLISLE,
from EJisbarltlt, against the grant to Slaynooth, and all
other Nat. ate.
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TOWCY OY TIIE. COYERNMENT.

The Dube et 111111WCASTLi tat, Meawe to notice, to
present a petition tom tbet easunetvisl Association of Man-
chests. praying that the country may as speedily as pen
eibk be relieved frees the state of anxiety and inspeme
which at present so extensively prevails amongst all claws
of the population as to the course of commenial policy
laid, her Majesty's government propene. to 1141,.10i. The
noble duke observed th.t as the petition was signed
by m. n than whom nano were better titled to
express opinions on all subjects of commerce, be felt
it his duty to taffeta his sentiments upon it. They
were men whom the noble earl, whether as a resident and
a large pro:erietor in the district in which they lived, whe-
ther as a memh.,r of their lordslnps' how. e, or Al prime mi-
ni ter, would respect when they came before the house and
exponent their opinions. What was this Manchester
Anuciatson It was not a political body—not a
body opposed is general in politics to the noble earl, but a
body of mon combiued to promote the great interests of
commerce—men differing gee atly in pol.tieal opinions on
all questians except upon this point ; and men he believed
who never took part in the proceedings of that house, or of
the other house, and never tame belure parliament except
in rsferenee to those matters in which they were peculiarly
interested. Ile thought, tl.. retort., that their lordships
wool I agree with him that souse deference was due to these
persons when they came before them; and, however they
might di ,put. the competency of othertto judge on that mai-
jowl, they would attach some importance to the opinions of the
petitioners. The noble duke read the petition, toe purport of
which was that the petitioners felt called on to deprecate
in the 'Longest manner any attempt at a reversal tit the
commercial policy of the last few year.; that no recurrence
to prenaretite duties could be permanent, and it could only
kiwi to cooties.' and organised agitation. Tile position
concluded by pray'sg that their lordships would relieve the
country as speedily as po-sible front that state of
enmity and suspense which at pre sent so ex-
tensitely prevailed amongst all classes of the population.
Now, be trio tht be permitted to add his humble testimony
to th.- truth of thoor assertions so far as his ta perielicu in
his owes county, to which be lat lenred—a manufacturing and
agricultural county—was cones rued. The noble earl seemed
la doubt whether there could be any inconvenience to the
agricultural interests, as the time rot wheat sowing and
other operations of husbandry had passed over ; but there
were other snort impectant matters, to which this suspense
would cause the greatest mischief—not moiety as to the
rents and contracts between landowners aim tenants, but he
wen sure the noble lord would admit that the effect on the
'minas ul the farmers mid occupiers of this country would be
each as was to he depreested—and if he could easily show

that the agricultural Merest was injuriously affected by
this inie.rta,nty, the saanufacturino sod commercial peva- 1
lotion was much usury so. His noble friend the Secretary
foe Fortin Aff sirs was,no doubt, wcil aware that already,
frees various puts of he continent, communications had
been i,ccivcil of the an-chief arising from thi. state of
us-
certainty. The noble earl appeared to doubt the statement,
but he huh himself seen representations from Austria,
and Denmark, all commanseiliug the mischief they
appreli, :idea from this state of suspense of the operations of
the trade of this country. He might be told that countries
whose policy was so restrictive as that of Austria and
Naples hid no mason to complain, but Denmark might
stand on a different footing. But he was nut looking so
much at the interests of thfts countries, as at those of our
ow u country, which appeared to be stagnated by the enter.
taluty which existed with regard to these measure,. He
might be told, in the stereotyped sentencis which he had
often seen propounded in addresses to electors, that this
was a matter of indifferseee, because they could not lOC
hostile tariffs with free imports. He thought it was as ea-
draialge fact that such was by no means an axiom, fee,
however little might have been the reciprocity from other
nation., there never was • time when so greet • relaxations
of hostile tariffs bail taken Owe as during the prevalence
of free trade opinions in this country. If inconvenience'
was still felt, it was bet films the establishment of • system
of free imports without say guarantee of reciprocity, but
from the state of uncertainty which had existed on this
subject for lbe last five or as years—(bear, hi arc) ; and it
was in twaserience of the coursotakes by the noble tardiloo~~
veldts and hsa3gentlemen professing the same opiaioue ia IM
Misr home of parliament that this case certainly elided.
(Beer, beer.) It was not merely as to corn that lids
weeertaisty prevailed ; it must prevail as to all other &r-
-elies et 1111111101 PM. He was glad to find that the right
lea. gateleasa the Sauseasy be the Genies bed im-
mersed. he estabis pine, that a vie see his bilwelea
=d H
ebb males with a hie et whisk lie hid elan Naha
he received lie appelsessest, fete empiaire of
tie seals by which the sops duties bed Wan=
immeed ; but, aIrVITSNIMIN there nut
haerrtainty se seek ea asireseadioa ss this; all
tnatertaiuty that nest ems% prejueteiallyi and epi
that mustileramts all the views sal speeulatiews ef es tads
idol merchants. He would arst mast upon aayammgdma so le
the policy or imuolicy of the MR kin; lent WOWS*
my that he maintsised his *Wan tibia been
greatly streogthi mid b what kid rate omega (Haar,
hear) It was inpeseiNr es Mew what Hie dela et the
country would be mess Febnisay, eblesegb etas ailed
moo ; sad be dryesseenk for sewshyr masa% tbe air
ti&•%St• of this eneertaisty, end of the encode new
going ou. lie knew that the noble sari was &amens te see
the routed skim* mad M kasw his pstrietien es well, thee
he 1/40 sure be mail NOW to bobs seneasod
cilia and quiet thee eleald Meal thee sellbeaset. (Hese.
bear.) It wee neesemsy, dweelbee. to reseirre this name.
Linty la most way, bett day swill penned in a satisfac-
tory moaner to the 1011•1611•61111 el obese serial questions
and internal rearms whiek libe aside se* is the
speech which he nab ea snorting ease, inane."
it would be his hiemble duty to being fenny. He t
he had • WOW. In dealing with this
_sellfeet, to tare
was of the melee earl himself at the bead of the anew
meat, sad to mem that he was io a reeegaised aisielly la
the Hesse of Cower. (Hear.) And be mid if theaddeast
preeneeed la his delenekedea brim beveml memo
of impselesaisaidadea. see el peados eirgeery, art teelai
lat a semis ualtares is tbe ess.~ia of
sad unpreeedented in her listing, end lb. aside mell"=
be endangering la • meet swine wars arc the peinsiple of
reprameaesiha gewersories. (Hear.) The real teeth wee,
obit the eatillesof tbe present gamensaisat at this mo-
nad. es le wee sae the web earl would he the first to ad-
mit, was wee si swat anomaly. He denied that the noble
earl had bees *sad into the ministry by anything that had
extorted ; bet be saaitami that he eat ea tires beselise, if
he might so say, by • right The prilea gee as sasmaly ;
but what were the eireemeasiese under tibia be pt there ?
He was at the bead a • knee per waft =lt
and nothing meld bemire in assiedsseselib
rules than to eon at tbe aside sales he= ea animists.
the. Therefore, tbe aside sled hid seesieslia M mar ea
for Isis polities: bed, swim lbs efeenwelegmem as
titelaßie took aim it wee en weensely. It was set
however, for whisk the nabbed wee to blame. He
himself with a minority n obi fume of Carresas.
doubtful majority in that been. awl he wassailed Osi
se the government up tee sands 'Vat. Int if this wee
persimed n. the pee Neale vies timid we ea =
easarlies, bee esseenedleilsed. The aside ad
ea taking lase ibee, made. tbe eirsesesiesses cf We pa&
ties being is a mlnerity la the ems bens mad • doubtful
majority in des Wiser, he was obliged le throw himself as
the kindness of his friends and the terbeerence of his
enemies.

The Earl of DERBY made some observation, which'
was inaudible in the gallery.
The Duke of NEWCASTLE was anion to correct
!daw' if he had made any 'mistake. That was not a
position is which a Piker Miwieter of this omintry should
Mad. It was as appeal who as Prime Mister had ever
made to parliament Msaws wad it was erne relish with his
respect for the chivalrous of the adds earl, he did
not believe he would ham been the stet r aide. (Rear,
bear) Bet this was the emegesese ef the prides Widai
he bad 'seasoned, awl whirl lhe was riedene M egged le
hiss to rare ha_sm Mr es apeedig se
bet le "Mei he rue semi se bag :ae le aa•
Nord le any en Me Misr of the serstry without
the eseddenes elide MOM MCoae.er (Rear,
It apposed to his dot as leglelaties but that of real and
isembele druid he attelinsiT sad, if the 'able
earl gesstion ef ems decided maw
sure ot weal se Mar he reedesee adopted.
He hod awe or twin enthel en dr JlM** eerier nor
sures rust he pored t bet whet moswares were
They, fitting therein" as oppeelden to the
or, at any rate, net enpportlng Idagommamambati NMI
of Hear, hear film. de aiettisstalheriss). debts
lords were perfectly weisesse M the
there shoe, M. a IM:ye
wan not • couplets eased= of the nee reds
—eo long as this was soy rernellen es the peint-re
Mg r they read ebtele as deabeeden dna the rieirers,
or from the headed Oho gmerrmiwati lbss art MIT
restore the cure law weal webs seede—se keg hs
admit that he wen is_ 'mold* to the peruser.
(Cheery) The NAM bed Ibsen lure as non feeders
epeurition from Mr Om the sidle lords who set sear him
bed had tar the Mt the er year He MI given to the
Me his eepport whearese he hit that be could
y do se.' end he would de the a.. with the
sable earl ; whilst there wee dip great era imporload
difference of spleen between dim the amble bed the
rodetartcr-Geessel red the *AO bed the !sweiga dere.
tary might cheer Mt ; het nereelheler be sheeld eserider
that be wren sppMt Mile pummel. Thus trorefely
two measures were almaiuti IMISSILIZ—em VOW
of supply and the Mutiny Act. I Ids ad cane
down to the home and said that thire we seem erhseesse.
VIM which it was imperative 01 pas, anti aa • filipellsiak
minister he felt that he ought eel te eery on the mere-
rent of the country without cab a imanre—he
was alluding to such a unsure,-itg Malranee, as the Militia
Bill—he wee made* that the Babb and would meet with
the readicst 1101111Millialla At MN time, as to the
bill,he moot frankly seeds Matte looked with some
Nan le • apriotimieso mash inowettmeMing mooted in
Silliammed cad expiring peellemeel. (Hear, bear.)
But rhea they went further, end etre to that
most lapsrtaat measure, the NB he Chancery
reform, he must say he thought the noble bed et tly.: head
of the government, mad his 'able aed heroes! friend as
the woolsack, would be greatly endangeeireg that most im-
portant awl ilesirahle IllealiOte f in the present state of the
HMO of Commons it was laid i
before them. A Pleasure of
such mlgnkuile, in which so many interests were involved,
geeld not be towidered fairly anti dispassionat.ly in a par- I

likeliest not led by the gonensmont ; end hem the ottestioni
given to other subjecta, mon particularly to their own
elections, it was not likely each a measure would have the
ealmeonsideratioa which ft rewired. But if the government
intended to carry on the legislation of the country for two
or three months he. this time, the noble earl cculd not
forget that the Home of Commons, as well as their lord-
ships, might have duties to perform, and when he con-
sidered that it was in their power to insist on this point,
he trembled when he saw the noble earl likely to bring on
a quarrel between himself and his friends, the ger-
yenta of the Sovereign, and the representatives of the
people. (Hear, hear.) A quarrel that might be
sheet, hat, nevertheless, it would be followed by serious
eaasgaenm And all this for an object, it seemed to him,
if athlnahk, to be of the smallest tangible importance—
(hear, hoer)—whereas, the importance of taking an oppo-
site some must be palpable on all sides. (Hear, hear.)
The noble earl said, in his eloquent peroration, that one of
!U
Heeler against
objects of his government would be to raise a
against the innovation of democracy, and that he do.
sired to maintain the prerogatives of the crown. Ho would
so far se along with the noble earl; but he thought, so far
from raising a barrier against democracy, he would be
throwing down the barriers which already existed, and
would be giving encouragement and facilities; for accom-
plishing that which the legislation of late years had tended
greatly to reduce, if he persisted in his present policy. As
to the prerogatives of the crown he would p slang with the
noble earl to the utmost extent; but he thought he would
be endangering the prerogativesof the crown if he ventured
In this manner to oppose the wishes of a majority of the
other house. He would now sit down with the ordinary
motion, that the petition do lie on the table; and ho did
most sincerely hope that the noble earl would be coabled,
in the performance of his duty, to answer the question he
should put to him, in a manner that would save a great
deal of ill will in the houses of parliament and in the coun-
try. He begged to esk the noble earl whether he was ire-
pared to snare the house that her Majesty would be advised
by him to dinolve parliament as quickly es possible, con-
sistent with a due regard to Lie public duties, sod to call a
new parli iment as early ea the politic service might de•
Assad ? (Hear, hear.,
The Earl of DERBY declined to enter into the
merits of fres trade, or the general 'policy of her Majesty's
government. But, said the noble earl, one observa-
tion, however, I must make with reference to • remark
which hes fallen from him, in which he said he was quits
sure that my noble friend near me, who was not theu in
1 his place, must be aware that venous countries in Europe
had addressed the government.
The Duke of NEWCASTLE—That was not what I
stated. . . .

fit;Earl of DERBY—Tim noble duke stated that he
use quite sure (ruin the position of my noble friend he
meet Lave had information of those alarms and apprehen-
dies being entertained. Now, I certainly thought I had
been tolerably conversant with the various despatches and
mmessaisetiew which he has received, and since the noble
lielletee I have had confirmed by my noble fiend
nelieved to be the owe, as far as the covers-
lOW is esneMsed—nanie)y, that no much representations as
ass' supoinel by the noble duke have reached her Ma-
te government from Kay country. (Ministerial cheers.)
admit that the body is whose behalf the noble
has promoted the petition this evening is eminently
Itiandawieninnewnua, petition, a
respect nd
Qatari:so :ibpseiractierse.
the
saw bras of parliament. But lYmust take the liberty of
say inehat the petition—l don't know whether it was in
the WM duke's hands before--but it bears date 'leveret
days alimise to the last dismantle in this boom. I under-
stood Waite duke to say that it was entreated to bin
the Onivakag day ; and, if so, the anxiety whisk W
pending., hit might have been roitiestail by the
espiessalea which wass via. (" Hear," end laughter
from in opposition ) I am *dined M the male
dam Atom adminim—ohet this is not on sasortointy
messed wads Os ha few days or webs, bat, neseedlos to
him It is an unesetainty which has afield the Now of
trade, sot in cesnersesee of ths scesseint of the mesa
ministry, but foe the last five or six years, end nut son-
tinue to prevail until a new parliament has been anseablcd.
And yet during the whole of these five se sin years of
feverish anxiety it never occurred to the noble duke or
those he represents to put an end to that anxiety by putting
an end to the question. (Loud miaisterial aboors.) I said
the other day, and repeat it now, shed I en happy to think
that, in consequence of the cheeps of yeesuent, that
anxiety will be put an end to at as whiliar_peried than if
the late government had enemies" ha Mee. (" Beer,
hear," and laughter from the amid sell bombes) Al-
though I admit the natural desire that dile e•reiss should
be set at rest, I cannot, in the theurimesed the opsestry,
in the state of the publie essorisish er in my ham*. I
can see of the national mind aid Wks& dad swabs that
favours that anxiety and apprehension wash, eissahp W
the no duke, exists in every dens of the ennimaity.
I now repeat there are qmodens—end wakes a Ma-
mmal:ft, sae—with reined so whisk the gusset !prem-
ises% are aware that their efailltla IMO net dialed in by a
nigerity of the ether home of pedimment, and I am not
sets that they an shared by a rasketity of your lordships.
I stated, all regard to those qpietions, that, Utley were
premed forma as a division, the pstismmmt walls in •
tatattlim, aid we "Weld Wm to sip, with regord dun
gm the lobannoso oar appellants end the
of oar bleeds I bat I di net state, end I will
not Mk, that in snob misslions as the government
*ink end proper se samltt, palandsat, thin Is any
met os edemas, either Is this or in the ether home of
yedismont, that ties ponortimont is in the maim of
minneity. (.. Heir, hear " hum the sininerW benches.)
Ide net deny the I=l on the business
the of *wavy for Rosy hogingsd th • government
usable to rely with esaltamat Oa support of a majority
in the ether home; hat! slanalto year lordships the other
day, smi I will sat wary yin by olpising it again, that I
consider we are pissed in disasslssau be which we have
to Wide between • belongs a Intesolonses and endlict-
dillsolties • end I ebb* Os Shim to the osantry
is len Wm • temporary cosionenss a the sziattai state
Ihlzichea irs wool* he Wm • psonellere and lessave-
Wont of Os Wilma el the ohm hems. It
met be the diowelion of the pomminont who per
psalms they amide upon bell ihremod; sag dint
Mariam they mlook Is the ansidsosthst et On house.
lb, noble date mead net deny, mhos s witakitit
Ys to ehbbe the sonfideme of the Be.. of Con.
Otis. ins of gas ten alternatives, the mignation of his
tin or s diriellsa—l mem* this seder existing dr.
zikaseilassilpistirs idles h met that which will be
spassldy mils leas oppodisos open • homer seer
shits was sot IhnSillit we. rensisil of Sir B.
ail thaly Issmodionne et a
odd smoisis
als ;11=s mid al&
rail paw le he on Imps* of bileM
pmsoninsst. I Who noble Cubs eppits, se
as be an dame 11, fiat se early solismat et the
• pay of Ibis =tread es es* salisment of
a dill poserpestle.,who ore to be Os ass, end
lobe ow hi is the whom na on whisk the
posonneot a this s. sy mls he osnansted. Is • maws
Mof lallhonoso, la kr on sally 'skim a whisk I on
in on.* gs Ihe side duke opposite. I de not hid it
essitent allaidsep to sew pow hail,' es to pewlionna plass aft sopa to the poodle ins
wno wheal lt way dry Is wile to bee Ma-
=Ltiowebrambla arise at dimly* the psosest pikers's.
ttteuess:dwhislire name
altet dinsinion
tror tray_p, be re Ihr em this to the solloalisibehols,l:2
ri..=:.4,,ni.er Pri."......---LVA.1.141:
place. Imy tbeit lam
phi m 'Liens es be
that at dm ear** posible aled whisk I See, Is be he
was.. rossaryt the smatuy *sad hews se "pr-
of its opinionsiedirdi=ho open
mph* -ana by what Os of this
usetry hsesehrtli be And I will p •
ap brass, sod wal up, I think 'he mat anion might
set bs showed M pire sow without the gauntry
Wind hod the oppeetneft of to • &shim, bat
without poolismint oho bang the oppereomitp of
wpm*, Manly nod In* hi opinion Ind Moja.
mat upon the wed telhp whisb may be proposed es
the pert et the
t. I will give us
ptedge that in tlhe 71111"Arealmallor May, or less, that
thataSishall mei. to di. esonfirl. I say thee haw
W the of sonsoinski th, mat sodas ot psi
liensa„ pessiWon shell how hem se Is deicedd sag
ofindissted open that the sedhary ad
Meese hams albs nont soaks shah net be Interfered
with by dissmisse as Os ponind Waeiel milky of the
Ihresit lima that I will not give any as-
inellnigh /A L hismistent with nay duty, as a mime.
be w INSP. le day that I will advise
=Ws Ns= In dissolve parliament at any per. but I will say generally that I
te pas la the prossat session mei measures as win
be it the pod of the sosatry. I will are distinctly
lei sw
see insiwwww, osseassibp. that among thus,
lbom the adds inn I dm somidsr of pow
asomity am et Os Wong damn et
ilsomiliy. di laving t
he Os duties
wenpa moles, I ems se ends= so aids dake
dist endy mOs admitay shoal be wiadehesrA
that parlismost la the muse a the maw astsnut
give its &slim (Cheers.)
Agee • her weeds trem Lord Inistan, who dim}
proved of the serrilMhyurt eiromonmont,
The lest el *at the pewronsat
were entitled to the son/dense to the home. and expressed
• hope that they weal an be diverted by taunts or threats
hem Waiw is scare whisk they believed were is.
by the imam of the ossary,
he bet he
.5 he
shwlinian awn' hese as pospitle• for
oty ea eon.
Lea =DUDA LE ornisnda that the MUNI t
to be serried with the doinales, that a dheslasioa
should take place in the anew of the year. Oting Wow
renienee would be enebehold by the parties who la pre
rate bills before parliament N the seam nes
turely closed ; but, ladepsalost of that, its ions
entitled to haw s fair told ed tbe present ponnmea
before • dinsintion too
►k =as. thought,thee wCsainlibTliTsfilligatbin lartitetrlawardreStPll:.
Moab est of when tee messily in the Howie or Osman
re end saw is epos* a esionderehl,
by wombs the home who the irretrileM
Mishisf vlifit the amosion if • Mimi ministry to power
000sef—
led el AIIIIRDEIN was disposed to be satisfied
with d deelseaties of the wide premier, in answer to the
quintion of this noble duke ; but might not their lordship
be parsnip' sis improper and uessastitational course by
urging a dissolution ? lie trusted they would not Mille°
the example of Lord Chatham, when in opposition, who
moved an address for a dissolution. For his own part, ho
did not press for a dissolution, but tie government were
certainly bound to explain their position bore parliament