The Express.
London, England, 1864-04-20 00:00:00

WEDNESDAY
~,li:E/4)NG,_ APRIL 20, 1864.

1 3 / Vl' / :I
TRIVATE BUSINESS.

The Peeklecher& Roads Bill and the ewer Sniderdridre
Water Bill were read a third thee and paned.

KING OF GREECE'S axxurry.
Mr. AYRTON gave notice that gm Friday fortnight, ea
going into supply, he would move a resolution to the effect
that the pant of an anotuty of 4,0001. a year to the King
of Greece oat of the public monies without the samilicia of
parliameet woe a violathon of the privileges of the House of
Commons.

&vim weriepicetuati &a— e• takth limit.*'
foreign policy of the government. The consideralien which
this coustv enjoyed abroad had bean very meth diathielied
since Edl %moil bellies at 'behead cif thielemiamMee.
He would refer to Poland, sad to the Danish question, sad
Eastero eatiosalities, and be conteeded that the policy was
inconsistent. Our Foreign Secretary ought not to give ad-
vice to other ountriee which be was the prepared toupport.
Mr. NEWDEGATE said It was his firm napreesioo that
England had • deep interest in the maintenance of the in-
dependence of Deemark. It was possible that Holstein
might desire to be united with lany, but be was
satisfied that Sleewig would prefer being with Denmark
so long as it was allowed an independent voice. He should
meanly place no confidence whatever in a plebiscite ex-
tracted from the doables in the face of the civil and mili-
tary dictation to which they would be subjected ; and he
warned the house against the formation of little states,
which would be sun to reeve the petty wan that
were the disgrace of medieval Europe, ending perhaps in
some gigantic despotism, the existence of which would be
opposed to the interests of England. The dream of the
ultra German democrets was the conetitation of • German
empire, with • corresponding power by sea; but he would
remind the economists that the appearance of another
European fleet would mean for us the selergement of our
Meal estimates. (Hear, hew.) He felt the wisdom of the
noble lord in the course he had take*, and he should be
happy. to offer him goy assistatioe which, as an independent
member, it was in hie power to give him. (Cheers.)
Sir H. VERNEY was sure that kis bee. friend only de-
sired that the people of the duchies should express their
free sod unblessed feelings on the subject of their future
government. The beet plan I. determine that question
would be to elect an 'numbly ad hoe in oath duchy, and to
withdraw all the troops till both siumblies had delivered
their opinion.
Mr. LIDDELL thought the German powers were
Mailed in enforcing their claims up to the time
of their invasion of Skew*. From that time, how-
ever, his empathise wens with the gallant Danes. The
hated constitution of 1856 wee sot withdrawn in time to
avert the consequences which resulted from it, and although
various compromises were made, they all came too late.
The members of the conference were about to play perhaps
the most uphill game that any plenipoteaturie ever
played. Every mummies would be required, sad he was
at • loss to understand bow the government could explain
to Austria the visit of Garibaldi to this country at the pre-
sent most inopportune juncture. (Criss of "Oh, oh.") He
was aware that he was saying what was not
very palatable to lb* house, but let them re.
member the principles on which that distinguished
man for whose Imelda virtues they all alienated the highest
respect, had always acted. Were they not, he asked,
revolutionary principles in the use of the great foreign
o powers! (Hear, hear.) They all knew very well that
.
never correctly understood the English people,
and id greatly lamest that at this moment, when the
powers were about to meet, the German powers, fleshed
with victory, and probably more obstinate than ever in the
assertion of what they considered their just rights as
against Denmark, such • visit had been made, for
he could not help thinking that it would increase
the difficulty of our plenipotentiary in his endeavours
to explain to them that England pleaded the cense of pesos.
Mr. LAYARD said ;that her Majesty's government had
been taunted with baring supported Deanna uptoacertain
point and then •bandooed her. (Hear, bear.) That was not
the cue. They use pve Denmark any promises of
support. (Oh. ob.) The Danish minister admitted that
no promise of material support had bees made. All they
promised Desmark was sympathy. (Laughter end cries of
" oh " from the opposition beeches.) A great deal had
bees said about • despatch sent to Led Curly asking the
co-operation of Frame—but under what circumstances was
tint application made ? The government of France was
asked whether in the event of any attempt being made to
dismember the Danish monarchy they would be inclined to
cooperate with England to prevent it. But that result
had never arisen. Austria and Prussia, in consequcce of
the action taken by the British government, expressly staled
that they had not in view the dismemberment of the Danish
monarchy, but that on the contrary they adhered to the
principle of the preservation of the integrity of that
monarchy. Would the British government have been jus-
tified in going to war with Germany under the circum-
stances? (Hear, bear.) Austria and Prussia might be doing
a very illegal and • very oppressive act, but so long ea they
declared that they bad no intention to dismember the
Danish monarchy. (Cries of " Oh, oh.") Hon. gentlemen
opposite cried ' oh," but was it their °eleo . that the
government ought to have rise to war? (No, no.) What,
thou, did they mean! Ministerial cheers.) That was
exactly the policy pursued y the opposition on every great
question—(" bear, hear," and "oh, ob.")—when challenged
and driven to • point they immediately backed out of it.
(Cheers sod counter-cheers.) He understood by those i repeal
cheers that they meant that the government ought to have
goes to war with Germany. (ha) He maintained that
the government were right, and he believed the country
were of opinion that the gonrumeot were right in not going
to war. (Ministerial them.) Again it was said that they
had dishonoured and humiliated the country. It was easy
to say so, but he did not see that it was soy humiliation in
eodeivouring to keep the country out of war. They were
not principals in the cue. They were not intormeddling,
as had been said—(cries of "oh")—and when one proposal
failed they were bound to make another in the interests
of peace. Unfortunately they bed not been able to prevent
the outbreak of • war, but they bad been able
to prevent the war becoming emeriti throughout Europe.
He bolieved that it wee entirely owing to the
influence brought to bear by her Majesty's government—an
influence which he maintained they possessed throughout
Europe—(cries of " oh," and "hear, hear ")—that this was
not now • grimed war. He could not in comma) delicacy
go further into the details on the eve of the conference.
This was • house of debate, and it would be wrong at that
moment for him to express an opinion upon mutters of
great gravity which within 24 hoots were to he submitted
to • solemn conference at which all the powers would be
renreseuted. Holstein end Sleswig would be represented at
the conference, if not by the King of Denmark, at least by
the representatives of the Dist. Ile had only to repeat that
the government had endeavoured successfully to keep the
country out of war, and he was convinced that the course
adopted by them would meet the approval of the country.
(Hear, hear.) He was happy to say that the feeling which
had prevailed against this country in Germany wee rapidly
passing away, and that the German people now saw that the
British government bad been just and moderate, and were
willies to do what was right towards them.
Mr. DISRAELI soil Mr. KINGLAKE rose together. There
were loud cries of " Kip:lake " from below the gang-
way, and of " Disraeli " from the opposition beeches.
Alt er some time Mr. Kinglike reamed his seat, and—
Mr. DISRAELI welled to state the reasons that had
prompted him to give notice of his intention to move the
previous question. bemuse it was said that that notice im-
plied • certain degree of confidence in the foreign policy of
the government. As, then, he was indisposed to gaisiog
any votes under tales pretenoes be begged to say at the
outset that be had no confidence whatever in their policy.
That policy, especially duns( the last twelve months, Mid
been such as to justly occasion great anxiety end appre-
hension in the country. It was characterised by • total
want of system, and the climax of mismanagement was
reached in their wedeln with respect to the Polish insurrec-
tions and their diplomatic commusicetioes on that subject
both with France and Russia. He met the motion of Mr.
Osborne with the previous question, because there were
two conditions necessary to the success of a resolution
impugning the forego polioy of the government. These
were. fires, the poseension b hoc, members of all the
information is the hands of the government ; and next,
that ministers should not ,be able to answer that negotia-
tions were going on, that the house was unjustly inter-
fering with them, and that it must take the responsibility
of the consequences upon itself. Now it happened that
both these conditions were absent in the present instance ;
it was nut iu his power, therefore, to bring forward the
question of confidence in the government. My opinion
is (said the right boo. gentleman), so far as I
ran form an opinion from the information I possess. that in
respect to Danish affairs the conduct of the government is
what I always expressed. As it appears to me, it is entirely
from the conduct of their negotiations in respect to Danish
affairs, as from the conduct of their negotiations with regard
to Poland, that we are in the deplorable position—
for it is deplorable—we bine occupied for many
months. (Hear, hear.) The Under Secreter for
War asks, are you for war or not? I em
sot for cutting the Gordian knot in that way. I am not for
war, unless the honour of the c000lgg„.aboold absolutely
require it ; but I think matters beta so misesuaged by
the government that they bays brought us into a mecum
which if the negotiations bad been mansged with liminess
and conciliation we never would have.eripied. (Hear,
hear.) I hays given the reasons with sincerity, and 1 hope
they are satisfactory, why it has not been in our power—
although we viewed with more then suspicion the conduct of
the governmeut, first with regard to Poland, and next with
' regard to Denmark, end all the deplorable and disgraceful
events which have coeurred there—to bring forward • ques-
tion of confidence. The men who could counsel such •
course under the eircumsteaces would he mad. It would have
been an set of absolute insanity to have due so, because it
would be said in the first place you have not got the in-
formation, and in the ascend place it would be said you are
bringing forward this motion when the negotiations are
going on. (Neer, bear.) Ceder mob circumstances I could
Dot assume the responsibility of bringing forward such a
motion. The conference is to assemble tomorrow, end I
could not take the responsibility of challenging the govern.
meet at such a moment, and throwing obstacles in
the way of the difficult task they bane to accomplish.
(Hear, hear.) But we reserve to ourselves the right,
as we have done from the brst,to ask the opinion of the house
with regard to the managsmoot of foreign affairs by the
government. (Hear, hear.) We will Dot fight the battle
at the time 'elected by our opponent., but et the time
which we can consider most advantageous, and when the
cimumstencei will justify us in that course. (Hear. bear.)
We must judge of that matter for ourselves. But let sot
the bottom suppose that in moving the previous question any
1 degree of academe is implited byltits in her MtVettly's
ciezroopent—(laughter)—or that
up.
ski.
pokr,
(Cher
tie hue,'" will
giveo its Tod:meat
Lord PALMERSTON earaplaised of Mr. Disraeli that, 1,
whilst blaming the government for what they had done,
he had not shadowed out what they ought to have done.
As to Poland, the steps they had taken were in harmony
I with the opinion both of the house and the country, and
had they punned any ether cause they would have
rendered themselves liable to manure. The right hoe.
gentleman bad seenessed two reamer for net iv-

porting the motion of Mr. Osborne, but be
might have added a third, and even more potent
' one, namely, that parliamentary and public opinion on the
' Desists question weir sack that upon that eronod alone he
: oould not hope for the MONO of any motion. eowienthatory
of the foreign pa/kg of the government lieferriag to the
eireferemes, the aside lord observed that all the powers to
be represented had askaowledged the validity of the treaty
of 1862; they were, therefore, baud in honour I. maiatain
it. Aay strong simian escrowed by this house at the pre-
mot moment might prejudice the conference about to take
place ; end be thought that the course which the boom
could most awfully adopt was to concur with Mr. Disraeli
in the previous gustiest.
Mr. KINGLAKE said it wee not without the greateet
reluotiose he found biessell obliged to rise on this occasion
after the leaders oo both sides of the house had spokes. He
merely meth owssequeoce of having an amendment on the
paper. The noble lard began. by saying that the mar ap-
proach of the oonferthes was • circumstance which forted
upon him so greet • reserve that aaythiog like fres discus-
Woo was almost impossible. But the amendment which he
(the hoe. gentleman) had given was one founded upon the
noble lord's want of rearm It wea founded on
the fact that the noble lord, • few days ago,
while knowing the conference was impending. cane
down to that house sad aswerted that the preeeot King
of Denmark was to be declared to be. in the oeuferenoe, the
lawful sovereign of the ple of the duchies. He (Mr.
Kioglake) entirely in what was said by the Under
Secretary of State, when he declared there was no justi-
fication for • war in this matter against Germany. Now
that it was known there was to be no war. undoubtedly this
country was open to, the tames of those enemies who said,
" here is England acknowledging by bar acts that she is
bound in honour to go to war for Denmark bat not doing so
in fact." He could not but think it was • lamentable state of
things to establish, and the full of &agar. He thought it
was of great importance for the honour of England, to show
that we clung to peace not for any base purpose, but simply
bemuse • war would be impolitic and unjust.
_. _ _

Colonel W. PATTEN mid he understoOd these were three
unentimente before the house, and he wished to know from
Mr. Speaker what would be the effect of their votes upon
them. (Hear, hear, sad laughter.)
Mr. OSBORNE—I shall simplify the question by saying
that lam so mush satisfied with the discussion w►ieh has
taken place—(langhter)—eo satisfied with the MOM dis-
played by the hon. gentleman the Under Secretary for
Foreign Affairs, who ha come out to-night in the new cha-
racter of representative of decency and delitacy—(laughter))
—and so satisfied with the reserve of the noble lord, atd
above all so convinced that the treaty of 1852 is a dead letter
—(cheers)—and t►at we shall never patch. up the so-called
integrity of Denmark. (Cries of "No. no.") Well, we
shall see. I shall be content to be judged by the events of
the Ceeteminoe. lam so satisfied on all these points that I
will simplify the question by saying that. like the noble
lord, I shall become a fol ower of the right hon. gentleman
opposite. (Laughter and cheers.)

_
Mr. PEACOCLE— If it is to be uoderstood that the hon•
member withdraws his motioo, I will DIA MIN my amend-
meat.

OSBORNE—I will withdraw my motion. (Loud
cries of "No. no," chiefly from the opposition benches.)
The SPEAKER said the amendment and original motion
could oely be withdrawn by leave of the bowie.
The original motion and amendment were then formally
withdrawn.

ii-I;iIAELI—I now move the previous question.
The SPEAKER thee put the "previous question," and,
amidst cheers and laughter. declared it to b• serried.
The Court of Chancery (Despatch of Business) Bill was
read a second time. The Consolidated Fund (15,000,0001.)
Bill was reed a third tame and passed.
The other orders were also disposed of ; and
The house adjourned at five mieatee peat 1 o'clock.

SPORTING INTELLIGENCE.

LEWES SPRING MEETING.--TuEsDAy.

Tun Ciasnar HANDICAP of 5 boss each, 2 ft to the fund
if declared by six o'clock the "seeing before rubbing, with
50 added, for 3-yr-olds and upwards ; wieners extra. T. Y .C.
((i1 subs.)
Mr. Usury's Deception, by Orlando—Trickstress, 4 yrs.
74 llb (J. Grimaliaw) I
Mr. lihrimpton's Diploma, S yrs. eat bib (Elphlck.
Mr. Tompkins Flower Safety, 4 yrs, eat .... (A Edwards) 3
The following also ran :—Klngsroral, holden Croon, Tiny, Lady
of the Manor, Kennett, Aunt Judy, Mother Bunch. Ikea lee,
and Wweldrake.
nil Two Ynan Ow &ram of 5 soeL each, with 50
added by the London, Brighton, sod South Coast Railway
Company ; oohs, 101 b • fillies, Bst 71b ; certain allow-
same sod vanities ; asoot;il to save his stake. T.Y.C.,
about 5 furloop. (U subs.)
Mr. Arthur's Lthelred, by Etbelbert—Biermor, tat !081
(J. Reeves! 1
Mr. Samuel's Blackbird, 84 2lb (A. Nalwarus, 2
Mr. Treen's Helko, fiat 14b (Cariainn
The following also ran :—ltose of Denmark, Arcata volt, ht.
Vincent, Mr. Nichol, Eastbounta, Perfanie illy, and lintainda
coil.

A 8/11.LIIIU Stailin of 3 soya each, with 25 added, for all
ages ; 2.yr-olds, het alb ; three, Bst 121 b ; four, 9st 1216 ;
bra aad upwards, lOst 21b; sod other allowances.
Ow mile.
Mr. :laltrasnlis Contusion. by Smnolostar - Conger-
s/a/Wm egad SIMMS (331.) ,A..lolmards) 1
Mr. Graham's Moss Li" 3 pa, ad Lb 1304
llamas Nighthealli
Mr. S.& James's Ye!hrsand.3 yrs, fist Mb (301) ,11 Haitians) 3

t;;;•e.aTionzi:

THE Wiivris CutTjaakaciai, wake 50 sows., the surplus
is specie, by subscriptiou a a Krim each, Z ft kJ alas tuod,
with 30 added ; winners extra ; sintlause riders as qualified
to rid* at Warwick ; *keys ilb exam Or mils mid a
(15 subs.)
Mr. listaners Yontedoy, by Faagbia-Ballagh—late (brad
la ?mace: a yra. Iles Mb t Mr. Cd•rardat I
Mr. alarltiadtial.ittle Dick, aged 1.014 (Hr. Cameras)

10;t S(4e;4l captain %t.ort.nani's Yfritou. yrs. —.( r. )
The following also ran gevolt and Perseverance
. . .

. - -
THE CASSIAS STAKES of beer.. each, with 50 added ; 2.yr-
*lda, ti.t 121 b; three, bat 21b; fillies sod geldiags allowed 31b;
the moiler to he mold for 1001.. and say surplus to go to the
food ;if mitered to be sold for 511/., allowed 710. T.Y.R.
yr. liming's Overcast. by Tadosor—)lorry Sunshine's
dim. 3 Yrs, list lab I ClOuj (Norman) 1
Mt. Johnson Ducklsound, 3 Tr; alb t:,0)
Orlinshasu 2
Hr. Jefferson's fby Neasbare, dam by Pantsloon—Maco-
fours dam. 3 yrs, est 210 ;ASO (Sl:Mick' 2
Prod and Ida also ran.
A HANDICAP PLATE of 40 soya.; whiners after :mill 11,
at moos, 511) extra. 0.. mile.
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Mr. Usw's Mativerne, by Women,ley—Battaglia. 6 Ira.
'at alb ,;J. Bightlegal', 1
M. Jay's laapoon. 3 yrs, est tlb (Marl 2
Mr. M. Marsh's Con federalist. II rra Get 7113 Zinnia) 3
The following also ran :—Wheldraka, Vietaria Wow. and In-
vender.

LATEST BETTING ON THE COURSE.
TWO THOUSAND.
6to 2 eget Elle de l'Alt (t) lea to 6 apt Planet ,t]
13 to 1 boat Copantltsgen.
CHL6I4II. CUP.

100 to a'it 01,1nOnstO-r—FT j b 0 to 1 opt Yorlsobl ft)

?I 10 1 ag;tC;;;attagest (4)
BETTING AT MA NCI:LESTER. —TuniDAY.

TWO THOUSAND.

11 to 4 apt ltnedoi,tii‘olt 1 1a to Not cerceawn,tel
easel) 100 to 8 Plato* ,t I,
x 0 to 1 General reel 10 to 1 Yam (off,
(toad al m
100 to 3 Durham ,off)
10 to 1 Btr Mager off)
C CRP.
9to 1 apt Lord Zotlanff(o) 100 to 8 apt Oldtalastor (t)
10 to 1 Clamp 'oil. 83 to 1 My Mary (t f)
190 to a Littto Molt ,941, II to 1 —lb Woes (1)
t 100 to 7)
DWI'.
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7to 1 apt Scotttals ciist is to 1 apt Copeolugoo
(ofl (4. 104/ to S
14 to 1 Coast Guard(*) tf)
16 to 1 Cambumcau 60 to 1 Moir Atkol t)
(at, t 2t) to ll 60 to 1 Acktroeth tol
22 to 1 Pint Me% 17 to 2 Lord Glaesow's
(off) t 26 to 1) lot :t)

UNIVERSITY INTELLIGENCE.

CAYBRIDOFf
.kmll. 19.

THE LATE ARCOIDIAOON OF SLY.—The remains
of the late Venerable Frmicie Frame% RD., .treladmoon
of Ely, were removed from St. John's College at a
late hour last evening, for couveysoce into Shrop-
shire for private interment. The Rev. the Master of St.
John's, and a number of the Fellows of the college, with
others. nuiversity friends of the deceased, paid the last mark
of their esteem by
J followin the hearse containieg the
remains in procession from St. oha's College es far as St.
Ilary's Church.

OXFORD. Arau.l9.
RADCLIFFE TRAVELLINO FELLOWSHIP. —T he Roo:I-
-OW, Trovollion Fellowakip boo bees awarded to A. B.
liartbonto, B. A., a Qatell's Colitis. Yr. Northooto took
• first•clnio in salami ncioson in Morel term,

FIRE IN S. MARTIN'a-LANR.—Last night, be-
tween the hours of Moe and tee, a lire broke out on the Pro-
mises balosgwg to Mr. &secy.:it, • paper laisgiag manufac-
turer, 9t, Bt. klertia's-Imie. By half•past eleven o'clock 11 w..
extiogessbsd, but the damage does is very coneidemblm as
the house is very seriously damaged by Ire sod the greater
part of the roof off. Insured in the Westminster, sod the
building in the Law. Mr. Cousins, the tailor, who has our
tained coasidensble damage, and part of the roof dr
stroyed, wr insured is the 11,yel and Law Firrollioes.
Marra Towell were issued in the gas Fi2ll-OfEOB. A Mr.
Jobs Hocking. • carpenter, in Ceoil-court, blue also sr
osived greet damage, and be was unissued.
Tag LATE MR. TILIICRY.—It is a subject of
cougratulation to the numerous fries& of the late Mr. J.
C. Tilbury, who was usfortosately killed by his bores
tallies with him kat week that he bad been prudent sourish
to effect so insurance against all &sachets with the Railway
Newsier' Assumes, Company. By • payment almost
he had the. secured a sum of 1,0001. for that
deservedly popular favoarite, his widow, better known as
Al. Lydia Thompson, sled infant child.
Striking a light, fifty years sines, was done by a
RIM and steel, aud • !mikr smash was eciasidsred • physics'
imposeibility. Many see still empikal of the foot, patrol to
thoomode of Herring's Magnetic brash sod Comb motoring the
*Now to R.y bah. and eating the mwerost eases of neuralgia
sad amens. hsW.che. Recent improvements prirmat She pos.
'DAUM of their Wised—N.lf Comaseilets ore mode.—
Ofees, 31, hodaghidlalesok tastien,i I