The Express.
London, England, 1864-07-23 00:00:00

RAILWAYS CONSTRUCTION FACILITIES BILL

This bill passaciiiroug h oommittee.
HARWICH HARBOUR ALT AMENDMENT BILL.
This bill was read a second time.
BURIAL REGISTRATION BILL.
This bill was read a third time and pawed.
COLLEGE OF PHYSICIANS BILL.
This ball was read a third timeaad
INCLOSURE (No. 2) ILL
This bill was read a third time sod pried.
TRESPASS (IRELAND) BILL
This bill was read a third time sad passed.
TURNPIKE ACTS CONTINUANCE BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
MILITIA PAY BILL.
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This bill was read • iii.rdtiaseaWlpaseed.
REGISTRATION OF DEEDS (IRELAND) BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
POISONED FLESH PROHIBITION BILL.
The house went into committee on We bill.

On sbioes 2.

I;rdWOITEHOITSE moved to omit all words " ucept
flesh and meat." so as to confine the operstion of the dues
poiamed flesh sad meat.
The committee divided—

THE HOLY ALLIANCE.
Lord STRATFORD de REDCLIFFE than rose to eoliths
attention of the house to the prevailing romans concerning
a supposed revival of the Holy Allianos, and to inquire
whether her Majesty's ministers had any information
theme, which might be conimuoioated to parliament
without prejudice to the public service. This country
might be regarded as safe from internal commotion, as we
were attached to the formal gusto runt which we possessed ;
but still we must be affected by continental commotion' ; and
we must not lose sight of the dangers with which Europe
might be threatened. He was not himself amu for war,
bat he thought that a 'Enlister who cherished pesos ataxy
price did not deserve the confidence of his country.
He trusted that by an &ll anz. with the Emperor of the
French her Majesty's government would take measures to
=
i for any dangers which might arise from other al-
n Europe. He confessed he should be (led to see a
friendly understanding with that great power. He should
be glad to see the tendency of our foreign policy was such
as not merely to rely upon our commerce for safety, hut to
bring sear to us those who appeared to have been greatly
estranged. While commerce was a great source of national
prosperity, it was also a continual scarce of danger from its
:posing u ing sto collisions and differences with other powers,
luring us to have ships in every port and on every lea.
Scarcy a mouth passed without something of the kind
happriniug. Hence the necessity of providing for the pro-
tection of our commerce in countries however distant. We
might prop ourselves up with the intention of being just to-
wards others sod of giving up whatever there was in our
ancient system of ethruachamot, but we had to consider the
disposition of other powers also, and we ought to improve
our defences and have our negotiations and alliances in such
a state that when the boar of trial arrived we should not
find ourselves deserted. It had been said of lath that we
were drifting into war. Those who possessed largely were
natural) y the most exposed to attack, and if we wished to
escape that fate which was said to belong to commercial
states we moat observe that national spirit, that pride and
nobility of heart which told na to regard our iatareeta. not
from a more commercial point of view bat to take a higher
and more comprehensive groued. (Hear, bear.)
Earl RUSSELL said Wet his amble friend had called their
lordship' shoehorn to a subject of vary grave importance,
and one worthy of hie great talents and the cossideration of
that house. His odds friend most be sensible that in calling
their attention and addressing them at considerable length
with regard to the apprehensions which he entertained
he must add force to those apprehension, and must cos- HOUSE OF 0031310178.—FRIDAT. JULY 22.
tribute to that steno which he appeared to have felt. Hi The inning was suspended at 2 and resumed at 6 o'clock.
noble friend's question divided itself into three parts ; oce
THE ABERDEEN ACT OF 1845.
with regard to the genuineness of the documents which had Mr. OSBORNE gave notice that, subject to the usual
lately appeared in the public papers ; nest, with regard to contingencies of life and death, early next session he should
the cciateace of anything like the "'teal of the holy move for leave to bring in a bill to repeal the St
and 9th
alliance ; and thirdly, with regard to the amount of appre-
,,,,, yin, a. 17.2, being an act to amend an act for carrying into
bawl." which we
ought to feel supposing fie °tilts". to '''' ex tics the convention between her Majesty and the
"canals"' With regard t° the first, he could "t eeT that Emperor of the Brazils, having for its obt:Abe regulation
be had any belief iii the genuineness of the documents
and final abolition of the slave trade in
alluded to. Hie noble friend had referred particularly to
two of them. There was certainly • despatch addressed THE CHLNCIIA ISLANDS.
by Prince Gortchakoti to the Russian representative at Mr. MAGUIRE asked the Under becrethey of State for
Berlin, and that despatch was reed by Prince Gortehakoff to Foreign Affairs whether he was aware if the seizure of the
Lord Napier, sod the substance of it was afterwards map Chinch' Islands by Spain bad led to dersoostretions of
municated to him (the noble earl) by the Russian ambam sympathy, or offers of material aid, in favour of Pero, on
'odor in Loudon. lu looking over the account which Lord tM pert of any and what other States of South America
Napier gave. and with bas own reoolleetionof that despatch, end if he was aware whether the Republic of Equader had
and comparing it with the document which appeared in the proffered the use of the harbour of Gasyagoil, If other as-
Morning Pont, be could see but very distant resemblance sistanoe, to the Spanish authorities.
between the two. It appeared to him that a person con- Mr. LAYARD said that the seizure of the Chinch.
verunt with the politica of Europe, and in coonecticni with Islands had, so doubt, caused great excitemeot and demon.
the courts or commerce of Earops,olight have obtained such etrations of sympathy •moog the other Sae of South
an Weight into the transactions gauges, that he might have America, and he believed that one or two of there States,
fabricated that despatch without ever seeing the original. including Venezuela, had declared that if these Wanda were
There was another despatch fabricated fcr the purpose of permaneolly taken possession of by Spats, they were re-
making the English government believe that the Russian pared to give material aid to Peru. Bob the Braid"
government was one of fraud and duplicity. That docu- verumeot had stated that they bad no istention of retaimag
moot was altogether a fraud. The conversation between the islands, and that as soon as certain claims which they
Count Apponi i end the Under Secretary of State no- bad upon the Peruvian government were satisfied it was
doubtedly took place, sod there cos some resemblance their intention to restore the islands to Peru. He soder-
beteieo the conversation as reported and the stood that the Republic of Equador bad offered the use of
topics actually touched coo; but it was singularly the harbour of Guayaquil to both parties, foe the purpose of
erroneous, especially with regard to dates. He coaling and refitting their vessels.
had been told that these documents originated with VANCOUVER'S ISLAND.
some commercial men, and were published for their own Mr. A. MILLS asked the Secretary of State for the
interests, to influence the otiose( the stocks in which they Colonies if he bad received • despatch from the Governor
dealt. He now came to the question of the revival of the of Vancouver's Island, conveying a resolution of the lees-
hely &Ithaca, and what were the apprehensions we ought latore to the effect that the offer of the imperial genera-
te leoterthio on its being brined. He could not believe that meant to transfer to the colony the crows leads did not
those sovereigns, arcing the change of times, had any wish afford an equivalent for the civil list asked. If it wee tree
to do more than protect their owe dominions, and guard that the legislature had refused to provide the sasssary
themselves against democratic immeshes. that might seek residence for the governor ; and whether any representations
their overthrow. His noble friend had spoken of despotism, from Vancouver's Island had bees made to the Colonial-
and uofortunately all those ouster's's who ruled over olSee respecting the indenture of 1864, by which the im-
dellp3tiO countries 000fOULded constitutional govern- noond confirmed to tho Hudson'sßsy CoMptay
runt with dani,cracy. arid the party of reaction in Italy "-
priatioos of lands and miserals which the company
con( zu•ided constitutional monarchy with despotic sway. had ..a„, on that wood.
The lulu's* of the British government was always need Mr. CARDW F.LL said be bead received a despatch from
in favour of the establishment of constitutional monarchy, Vancouver, 000veyieg the expulsion of • wish on the part
whenever the people of a country thought that the best red the ookon that it should he Thom or des olooey united
form of government for themselves. Where then was the with the colony of British Colombia, for the of
danger we had to fear from there allies at the present suing expsn e, The n 0..., of the colony of British
moonlit ? We bad seen that in the South of Europe, in Columbia on that quashes had not yet bees reoeived, but
Italy and Spain. the AIM bad given up every attempt to
„ he had ruses to believe that that answer was not likely to
moat" into
nnd efirmr. Inhncrenglwireca.sittde,getnirth...whieh.r.ift°4-:-..r.- b. a favourable one. He did not, however, despair that
Vancouver would yet enter into the proper arrangemset
of aoy attempt io Italy or Spain to restore the principles of „jib the goner., of the mt.,.
the Holy Alliance. (Hear.) Then where was the danger ?
The only country now with regard to which the question INTERNATIONAL CONGRESS—TELEGRAPHIC
could arise, was the &Arica belonging to Denmark. COMMUNICATIONS.
and it was pow said that an attempt would be made—and Sir C. DOUGLAS asked the Under. of State
possibly it might be so—to dispose, according to the views for Foreign Affairs if the Frisch goversineTttaaddreened
of the Diet of Frankfort, of the sovereignty of those duchies, a circular to the various powers Writing them to participate
sboald the King of Denmark consent to yield them to Au- in so international emigres; for the purpose of regulating
tria and Pruseis. He confessed that that appeared to him a telegraphic communications in Europa ; and if so. whether
question for Germany to consider rather than for tic (Hear, her Majeety's government would comply with that
hear.) If the King of Denmark should give up the cove- Peoraseli
nicety of the duchies, and it was said on good authority that Mr. LAYARD said he bad seen in the papers a state-
the duchim of Ltheolvere. Sleswig, and Holstein were meet that such a circular had been issued ; but no such
demanded by Austria and Prussia as the term. of peace, it circular bad bun sent to the British government, and for
would be for them to settle with the people of Germany, and this obvious reason, that telegraphic communication in this
for the people of Holstein and Sleewig to say whom they country was io the hands of private companies, whereas in
would consent to obey, With tepid to ourselves, we had other countries the governments had entire control over the
shown in the late conference whet our principles were. telegraphic wire. Whether 'ley communication had bees
England and France bad both said that those duchies made to one telegraphic oomPainte• he w not away*.
ought not to be disposed of, if they were given up by lien- THE ARMSTRONG SHELL—WAR IN NEW
nark, without the consent of their people. The King of ZEALAND.
Denmark had mid exactly the same thing, sod the repro- Mr. OSBORNE asked the Under Secretary of State for
mutative of Seirdeu had expressed a similar opinion. There, War if, during the recent conflict in New Zealand, the
at all events, we bed declared the principle. open, 'loch we troops were oot exposed to considerable danger during the
stood. Our pnoriple was one is which we bad the coo- bombardment by the dropping of the lead °Patio( of the
011ITCDCO of the Emperor of the French, but which was Ariontroo, shells.
not concurred in by Austria nr Prussia. The consequence The Marquis of FIARTINGTON said he had not re-
of such gnat differeoce of opioioo was that we should draw ceived solace of the question early enough Wallow him
nearer to France, and ho leas connected with those powers to refer queasily to the despatch, but he had been is-
which declared that sovereiguty ought to be separate from formed by a person who had seen a despatch from the
the wish of the people. (Hear, bur.) His noble friend who officer commanding the Royal Artillery in New Zealand,
hod just spoken hail said that it was our interest to that that despatch cootairted no mention of any such oc-
he closely eoneeetect with France. It .0 hap entrance ex that mentioned by the boo. gentleman. On
peoed that very lately there was • question of the enetruy. it appeared that no Armstrong goes had been
very great importance sod delicacy under discussion as used by the Royal Artillery on that occasion. But it was
to what wan to be done with regard to the Daniabien prin. true that one 110-pousder and two 40-gousder Armstrong
sipalities. Her Majesty's ambssaador at Constantinople guns had been used by the Naval Brigade, and it was passible
and the smhassador of the Emperor of the French that his noble friend the Secretary to the Admiralty might
entirely concurred in the settlement of that quer have received some report on the subject. A private letter
hon. They, with the Grand Vizier sod other whioy, hod hona received from Sir.W. mr,..,,,a0 who nom.snioisters of the Piirie, agreed upon a plan which mowed the navalfor. opoo thor, n.osion. spoke' in the
was approved of by the conference, and though the question highest terms of the performance of thou gnu.
VOA one which threatened an immediate dish:Mathis of the Mr. OSBORNE gave notice that he would put • quo-
peace of Turkey, if not of the peace of Europe, itscotiao on the subject to the noble lord the Secretary to the
amicably settled by mean, of wise and judicious proposers. Admiralty os Monday nest
(Hear, bear.) He could out help reurarkiog how much her
Majesty's gc,aernmeet, in co•operatioe with the French PRINCE COUZA AND THE SUBLIME PORTE.
aniousedor, had been able to do in obtaining the fettle- Mr. G. DUFF asked the Under Secretary of State for
meat of that question, and the ...nor to Foreign Affairs whether her Majesty's government bad itself
his dispatch, read to him to-day, from M, expreseed,or allowed ber Majesty. ambassador at Constantii
Decays de Limy", expressed the hope that the nople to express,either direisly or iedimely, any approval of
accord between France end Great Britain on this important the rt
.'"ot wwlP-Witstol Priam Conaboe of anYeritheemests
subject might be the harbinger of their agreements on sock int° wbmb he had entered with the Pont,, is e° fars.these
important subjects se might in future come before them.
if
arrangementswere contrary to the convention of 113.58, and
If er Majesty's government heartily hoped it might be so ;be wnether,there "in any papers os the subject,
was sure there was nothing more modules to the beoefit would object to lay them epos the table of the house.
• Borope than goad agreement between P.nglsd and Mr. LAVARD said be lied to • rate that anther her Ma-
Fracas, sod while that agreement should robeat he did Dot pasty's government nor her liiijohyie ambassador at Cos-
himself feel the least • pprelionsion of the revival of the holy harelip/Ide bad either directly or indirectly expressed any
alliance. even though the sovereigns who formerly oust.- aliMeoeel of the coarse 61" by Prince Coos.. There was
toted it should he so ill advised as, diaregardiog the state or no doubt that the change made by Prince Onus was alto.
feeling in Europe, to ester Stow instomicious a combine- either opposed to the convention of 185$. Print,. Cows
nation. teissers.) was invited 10 Ceestastionple. and smageoseeis bad them
been made with the Sublime Porto, combo/out to a aorta"'
BISHOPRIC OF CORNWALL. octant the views of Prince Coosa ad other partial is the
Karl NELSON moved fora espy of the correspondence principalities. That arrangement overthrew what the hon.
between the Archbishop of Canterbury aad Sir George geatlareas sailed the canp-d'itet of Prime Comm, and ter-
fine is mamma to the fereeliss el liiihopeis et sisated th• serigas complications which bad irosseqewily

For the amendment. l7
Agaiast it
The Marquis of CLANRIOARDE snoeini to insert the
welds, " or other animal matter."
The committee divided—
Cootente l4
Non-cooteate lB-4
The amendment was consequently lost

The Earl of AIRLIE proposed to lame oat the proviso
exempting Ireland from the operation of the bill.
The Earl of DONOUGHMORE said be hoped the noble
earl would Dot press his amendment. He had received a
letter from the west of Ireland expressing a fear that it
the bill were extended to Ireland the writer would not
long have a lamb left in his Bock.
The amendment was negatived without a division, and the
clause agreed to.
The other clause, with some amendments, were pared
and the house resumed.
J USTICEB PROCEEDINGS CONFIRMATION (817E41EX)

BILL.
Tkis bill passed through committee.
SALE OF GAS (SCOTLAND) BILL.

This bill was read • third iiel and pried.