The Express.
London, England, 1855-06-27 00:00:00

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so information with respect to the transact/Gusto which the i Pontypool hold that going three miles by rail, from
eltto: hon. gentleman referred ; but his attention having thyr to Twedyrlim, is travelling within the messingalWL. it
Wee ea!led to the statement quoted by the right bon. act. Mr. Hardwick thinks that t maa song e Th."' we i
geode/Deo, he communicated with his noble friend the Be- journey by rail or omnibus and stopping for a pint fh,2
unary for War, who would call fora report from the officer admtrrian.
kpNublirletiore_n-h,o(oluafausgLnsbetwaerr:he;tisba,onwdtnit home is not a travel, of,
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;'command, sir these transactions.
Memo, hold 1-; 1
TOE CIRCASSIAN COAST. London to Norwood, sad stopping for beer withiti,;°,lt /
Lord J. MANWIRS wished to know from the noble lord and a half of his own door, is a traveller. (A. laugh,)--w i
in what espaeity was Mr. Longworth employed at Amps, Rhadamenthos of Highgate says a man ...m The 1
and what relations misted between the Circassian@ and Hampstead to Highgate is not such a traveller thatt ftet
her Majesty's government ?i
Lord PALMERSTON replied that Mr. Longworth was the drivers of omnibuses from any place out of teen .._--
the British consul at Monastic, to which post he was not travellers. A similar decision as to railw y Ril.7.
appoiated by himself when hi held the office and Mowers was given by the justices of Cattelis-f7 i
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of Secretary of Foreign Affairs. He selected him because The Lancashire justices at Seaford, at Mao
he vent' • good deal of time in the country, and was well persons who on Sundays go four, five, or sin miles, en t--;:,
acquainted with the habits, the political relations, and the or horseback, or in ;carriages, may not drink on the
of the ishabitante. When it was intended to the presiding magistrate evidently deeiding it 0,1 -et
carry on operations against Anapa, with which it was ex- ground that • man may, or neust not, or should not, watt
mated, as it turned oat to be true, the Circassian would &bent on Sunday for plea, um A different interpretation n-
co-operate, Mr. L,ugworth was sent there as an organ of put on the act by Derbyshire joestices, who allow aa - -
Beer Biil in Liverpoeel tad
communication between the commanders of the expedition sons going sir or seven miles, whatever be the re'slinii,;
and the Cireassians. No relations existed between the go- their going, to moisten their clay as.. they go. (e 1,011
vernment and the Cireassians excepting those which had From numerous places in all parts o: the country the ~,°,.1
reference to their co-operation in tee attack on Anspa. plaint is that the justices have laid de wo no role t e in.
(Hear, hear) The re.
Mr. BAILLIE wished to know in what capacity Colonel the publican in deciding traveller or no'. Do what obe-old
Lloyd had been appointed some time ago in the same du- he can in no way escape the fans of the law." (IL."'
trice, at a salary of 2,0001. hear.) lie would now read a letter he had received -.I
Lord PALMERSTON-He was appointed to go to Cie' Mr. Atkinson, of 33, Percy. et, eet, Liverpool. H Inca
maids for the purpose of opening communications with the "The operation of the Sunday
people, and to ascertain to what extent, in the event of neighbourhood is of a very contradictory and oppreio.;
hasti le operations being decided upon, their co • ope re titan
cagacharacter,rariindtoluictevnaengredyd
stringentlyoTujcmtuerol
ine rs 1 informations
nfor
infringing Liverpool,
aphidatv have
r.beetahteeti
at:it:.
venience is experienced here in consequence of it, from the
might be obtained, and on whet terms.
ARMY MEDICAL DEPARTMENT.
arriving from stet departing for various partied the wolf,
Col. BOLDER° begged to ask the noble lord at tbe head
by hp, and steamer net pseno rs are e n mei
of the government whether he bad read the notice of motion circumstance stanraiceit that e's n 1111;
;and
.of strangers
ce au e,ontsiteatly
for a select committee to inquire into the state of the army
whim would have informations l.id against them, teed they
medical department, and also whether it wss the intention
of the government to accede to or oppose the motion. refused admission into the houres of hunted vine Ile
. would then be put to the trouble end expense of
Lord PALMERSTON suggested that the hoe. and
' gallant member had better communicate with the Under
ansucb impossibility.passegra fall into the hands
promo,'
Secretary for War. that their guests had been bona pie travellers • '
snort a involving
that. to many
NEW WRIT FOR THE CITY OF LONDON.
of lodgioghouse. keepers annd other!, most of whom .
Mr. T. DUNCOMBE said he bad the day before asked
and the licensed victualler thus is deprived of the leltid•
his boa. and learned friend the Attorney-General whether, to have stocks of ale, porter, and spirits iseltil -
mate object of his business, which flows into chann-1 Heratiti.
under the provisions of the Contractors Act, Baron Roth and
had not vacated his seat for the City of London by
intended by the legialeture-(hear, hear)-end this' e.
entering into a contract with her Majesty's government for
the supply of sixteen millions for the public service; and
clause in the act exempting a bona file traveller is can-
also to the direct effect of defrauding the Etch". The
whether a new writ for Leaden ought not therefore to
issue. The learned gentleman said be would give an answer
person craning the river Mersey to Seaeembe, a distance-
weed in a very singular maser in this mighb -echoed, --;
when the question was brought forward in • practical
and not speculative form; he (Mr. Duncombe) therefore of three-quarters of a mile, is considered a traveller, ail
may have refreshment at the public.housee. A Wm-
crossing to Birkenhead is not a traveller, and he can -get se-
nse for the purpose of bringing forward the question in the
most practical form, by moving that • new writ do issue fel
eofnothtetrwavoerldleborend.
fide
the City of London. admittance as such. At Egremont, two miles down
river, a person from Liverpool is a traveller • while the
The ATTORNEY-GENERAL moved that it be referred
New Brighton, • mile lower down, he is note tre'vellehl'd
to a select committee to report whether Baron Rothschild had
laugh.) At ock Ferry, three miles up the river, a pima'
worsted his seat or not. He was however perfectly ready
from Liverpool is a traveller ; but at Easthem,,si • stiles-
Monter into the question it the house thought tit ; it was
from Liverpool, he is not a traveller. (& laugh.) At itul e.
18 miles from Liverpool, myself and wife were refes:cl'ad:
moot those Can/ in which, as the house exercised its judi-
cial functions, it was the duty of every lawyer in it to give
the best assistance in his power to enable the house to arrive
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at a just conclusion, without regard to personal or political laugh.)
considerations. mittanee
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traveller ; and this act, in the hands of our justices' Me
Same further discussion ensued, after which Mr. Dore- been a complete scourge to the people. (Hear, heir) Lest
coseax withdrew his motion, and the amendment was Sunday afternoon, May 5, I drove with a friend to the la-
adopted without a division. lege of Wavertree, three miles from Liverpool. Before ws
SALE OF BEER BILL. got there the rain fell in torrents, end we were indebted to
Sir J. SHELLEY presented two petitions from West- an intimate acquaintancewere with
there • the proprietor of the bete
tel
=Mater, praying for the repeal of this bill. for shelter. While we l pasd,
Mr. COBBETT presented two petitions from Oldham to 214 persons, all on foot. It was raining fast a
tended by _
d. , ths
time, and thedistance from the house of the Oeceued to the
the same effect. church was about three quitters of a mile. They returned
Mr. H. BERKELEY, after presenting a petition from in procession to the einem and broke up. Now, ethout
Somerset, and another from Carlisle, against the bill, then it was still raining, and many of them had mine two sed
proceeded to move the resolution of which he had given three miles previously, they were refused admittnee into
the hotel where we were, the landlord 'Relining the risk of
notice, "That a select committee be appointed to inquire an information. Our stipendiary magistrate h.s decided
into the act of last session for further regulating the sale of that a seaman is a traveller when he is going to sea, and he
beer and other liquors on the Lord's day." He said the may have refreshment, but that he is not • traveller when
house would remember that when that bill passed into • he returns from sea, because he hes arrived at
law, none, or hardly any, of the members of the house knew the termination of his journey. (A lough.) Inn-
anything whatever of the nature of the bill. When tke nimble other cases could be adduced ei the inconsistent
bill passed he stated, on the third reading, the great cable:- readings and baneful operation of this act, but the
Bons there were to the bill, end be pointed out how one. above will slightly illustrate the manner in which
sided would be its operation, for while the amusements and it interferes with the comfort and convenience of the
recreations of the working classes were interfered with, public in Liverpool and its neighbourhood." (Cbeen.)
those of the upper classes were left untouched. The first He should trouble
of the h
ome with
th et bu one more ease
deci of the
' Sunday that the bill came into operation the objections that inconvenience this sd of inconssion
he had made to the bill were proved almost to demonstra- come to regarding it. On Sunday, April 23, the landlord of
I lion. Thousands of the working classes who bad gone the Angel Inn, Sutton, bad his brother and sister to see him
forth in railway trains to get a genial breath of fresh air in from London. As they were hiving supper, preperatory to
the country returned after ten o'clock at night, end they their return journey, at about 20 minutes past 10 o'clock,
Were thrown upon the town with every place of refresh- two policemen kr mks d at the door of the house, and were
meat closed against them. What was the consequence ? admitted. After looking into the parlour, and such pubes'
Great discontent, almost amounting to a riot, and the police rooms, they walked into the private apartment of the land.
Were called out to do their most unpleasant, and he would lord, where the family wore at supper. Seeing mode:sum
say no-English, duty, which they did with that quietude master wine on
the house the tablebad t they de
earpuat the Epsom ted, and on Friday
and
the
and firmness which marked the character of the force. of o app Court,
Since that time the injustice of the act had was fined 10s., sad 151. costs, although he informed the
been still further seen. Re did not think that magistrate that the lady and gentleman were his Oster ald
he stood alone in that house in thinking that one brother. (Hear.) The magisterial answer was, " Then
of the greats! t blessings accorded to the working- you must not have your sister end brother to supper."
classes was the facility afforned them in going at • cheap (Laughter.) They had been always told " that an English.
rate and witnessing the beauties of nature, at • distance man's house was his castle ;" but what ORS the value of that
from their own homes. Why, 15 years ago thousands of to a licensed victualler, if he was not to have the tame mi.
her Majesty's subjects bad lived and died within five miles !Hem another persons ? The house would pardon hist if be
of the place of their birth, never bluing gone beyond that compared a case with that of the interference with this
distance, and there were hundred of thousands of the in• licensed victualler. He would put a hypethetiell cue.
habitants Mom island who lived and died without having Let him call the attention of the house to one of those ea.
ever seen the sea, and there were many even of the inhabi- licensed victualling-houses-a club. It was Wiliest elevea
'tests of the metropolis who had never in all their lives at night, and that night was Suaday. Sng at supper,
witnessed that grand object. Now, he conteaded that the with his brother, was one of the stipendiary magistrates, a
present facilities of locomotion had a tendency to expand most amiable man aid 'generally popular. He had bees
tie* mind, and was no mean step towards education't and down to Richmond or to Greenwich. He had had his venison,
ye there were pious ascetics wimp
would stand by and see and was thirsty, and at balf-past eleven at night he and hie
shee departure of a Sunday train laden with a load brother were attacking the devilled lege of a turkey
of human happiness, fathers, mothers, and children, and washing them down with whiskey punch. They
going forth on the tiptoe of expectation, eo see went home, if not eino eitioque groviiti, at least
the beauties of nature ; they could stand by and witness "comfortable." The next morning the magistrate rose,
this, and lift up their pious hands and say the steam engine and the first case brought before him was a licensed
was,
employed as a device and a snare by the evil the; and victualler, who had been informed against for giving a
that thou who had been employed sin days out of the seven supper and a bottle of wine to his own brother at half-
in • smoky city, dwelling in half ventilated houses, and in past ten at night in hie own house. What did the magp
streets probably net drained at all, should pass the seventh stride say, with tbe whiskey putch in his heed and the
day in some church or chapel, listening to the holy out- taste of the devilled turkey on his lips ? He burled
pouring, or to the blatant oration of some of these pious the statute book at the publican, ani fined him a
ascetics. These might be good religionist', but he thought nd. Really. it made him exclaim, " Handy, Haney,
they were bad Christians. Let him not bs misunderstood who is the justice, and who is the thief?" Es
for one moment in advocating an abuses from religious did not think that • man would have worse treatment
our
aaaaa rues. Far from it ; that was not his intention. in Russia. He would now revert to the opinions of weir
It was • fact that wh hose Sunday trains deposited trues on the act itself. Mr. Corrie said the act Was CA
persons coming from distant parts the chapels stringent, and Mr. Norton said, in his opinion, the get most
and churches at the places they visited filed be repealed, as it was not suited to the convenience or the
to °Teaming. He could sly more, speaking from necessities of the public. (Hear, bear.) He now came to
his own experience. It was the custom for Sun- the purpose for which this act was made, wbich he presumed
day trains to depart from the city of Bristol to the was to check drunkenness on the Sabbath. lie firmly and
neighbouring watering places, and tbe common custom of conscientiously believed that it had not that effect It bed
the citizens was to go by an early train to attend a plate of been said that they could not make a man moral by let of
worship by the see side, then pus the remainder of the day parliament, nor could they make the drunlead Bobo by
in enjoying the fresh sir, and return in the evening. Fur- act of parliament. They might make them hypocrites. The
ther, by this facility of locomotion, Bath and Bristol were effect of the ant had been that men bad got
' brought close together, and it was • common thing for per- drunk elsewhere, at beer shops called thrre.belfpenny
, sons to attend worship at church at Bristol in the morning, shops,' and at low coffee-houses and at low brothels,
go to Bath in the afternoon, and return and attend church where debauchery and drink went bend in-band,
in the evening. And it was the same with the dissenters. Producing a state of morals fearful to contemplate.
But it was not only for its interference with the Mr. COBBETT seconded the motion, because he cone.
recreation of the working classes that be objected deiced that the act had created a great deal of disturbance,
to this bill, but also because of its onesidedness. and bad cloud a great deal of mischief.
This could be very well son if the house would allow him Sir O.GREY, although be did not concur in all the opinion
to follow the progress of one of the working classes in one which had been ex resod by the hon. gentlemen who had
of these Sunday ezcorsien trains, and then to follow the moved and seconded the motion, was prepared to comae
progress of one of the upper classes. The working man, on the part of the government, to the proposed inquiry•
when be was departing for a dey's pleasure by an excursion (Ilear,leear.) At the same time he must remark that,
train, quitted his house about five o'clock in the morning ; Previous to the introduction of the bill, a very sung feeling
he had not much to lock np-be had not • well stored had been expressed that &measure, not of this limited eh-
larder, or COURT-and if he left anything alive in the house racier merely, but for the entire closing of public-tweet' co
it was the cat. He went forth with the key of his hones in the Lord's day, should be enacted. (Hear, hear.) Ame
his pocket, and he depended for his refreshments on the IDIOM bad sat under the presidency of the Judge Memo.
public-house. He went down by • train, and arrived at a • great deal of evidence bad been taken, and the prude
time when they had closed the public-honses. No dinner derance was certainly in favour of the bill which we, intro
could he have. It was in vain to talk about their an per- deiced by his hon. friend. It was shown that Sunday vs
mining a man to have refreshments under the pretence that the great day oa which drunkenness prevailed amongst the
he was • bonsoide traveller, for in consequence of the deci. poorer classes, and it was thought that, by limiting Me
gone of the magistrates the publicans excluded such a man, hours during which the public•houees were kept epee; a
and they excluded every puma unless he was dressed in great temptation might be removed, and at the same ties
broad cloth and was attended bT a servant. Well, be could a due regard might be paid to the comfort
get nothing to eat and drink. They might say the public of the lower orders. He was bound to say did_
houses would be open o'clock, and so they were, but the information be bad received was tsunamis
at that time the trains teem:wre on their return to ,andon on the whole to the working of the act; bat as they were
the consequence was that the man was defrauded of We going to have • committee it would be better to leave the
dinner and his supper. Now, he said, they ought not to to task of fairly sifting the statistics of the matter to it.
tamper with the comfort of the working man. (Hear, hear.) He thou ht the bon. gentleman bad acted
Let them HO now what the rich man did, very judiciously in asking the house for a committee rather
He went forth from his house, and weeded his than in proposing to repeal the act at once. A greet wh°,l
way to whatever place he pleased, and was deposited of the mils and inconveniences to which the bon. gnu,-
there by the train ; and he should like to see the innkeeper man bad adverted were not chargeable to the act. The
or botelkeeper who would refuse bim animism. Did they sonettes'of both the hon. members went, in fact, WO
know an instance of any gentleman having gone from all limitation whatever. They seemed to forget that a
London, even only three miles, who had been turned hack, limitation had long since existed, and that in 1848 sole,
Well, he got his luncheon or his dinner. He seturned to portant extension of that limitation took place, so
London ; and what did it signify to him that the public- public-houses were obliged to be closed during the orde
bonus were closed. His larder and his cellar were well nary hours of divine service. A great deal of objection
supplied, and supposing he did not wish top home there was at first made to that measure, bat the testimony of eu
was his club-that door was never closed. He had shown the witnesses examined before the committee was in Woe
therefore, he thought, that the operation of the act was one- of that alteration, and even the licensed victualed theta-
sided. He would now show the monstrous contradictions, selves admitted that they did not wish to see it repealed.
absurdities, and anomalies which were daily perpetrated Some of the decisions to which the hon. gentleman opeeliee
under this act of parliament by all the family of had adverted were so extraordinary that unless they wee.
minor Rhadatnantbuses throughout the country. All these within the personal knowledge of the hoc. gentlemen, he
men had different ways of interpreting this statute. Some should doubt whether any magistrate could have 01
magistrates had even fined a Publican for receiving • foot them. Bat he would remind the house that the camel
passenger ; others said there must be a man and horse ; and in favour of travellers was in the former acts. Hew ew...
others that a man was a traveller if he were in a Post-chaise, remind the hon. gentleman the member for Oldham tot °
but not If he went in a fly. (Laughter,) They even went the cases he had cited it would have been illegal, evenuoder
so far as to say what refreshment he should have. One gen. the old acts, for the innkeepers to have admitted per...,
Osman held that brandy and water was an improper re• into their houses while divine worship was ring ". on
freshment for a lien. So monstrous and absurd weft hear.) He believed that the complaints they had Most
the decisions under this act that he must beg leave to give against the operation of the act did not come from the $O
the house chapter and verse for any assertions he might of the people. On the contrary, he believed theta!!
make regarding them. " Persons going to Jack Straw's matter were put to the vote under &universal sulfu te!
Castle, Hampstead, to dine there, are held to be tee. decision of the public would be for closing publie-bew7
sellers by Mr. Lonjg, of Marylebone Police-court.; hut on on Sundays altogether. (Cheers.) The complaints al
the other hand, Mr. Partner. of Wandsworth Police. the act came from the licensed victuallers and from ete
court, holds that persons going to Putney, even limited class of persons, who found that it interfered c_
if walking, are not travellers, and that the exception must their own habits. (Hear, hear.) He had received re
be confined to persons travelling from place to place, letters in favour of an inquiry, but those letterewe.cr.
through obligation or duty, and not for mere Pleasure. tated by views very different from those eotertain
Likeminded is Mr. Trail, of Greenwich, who holds hen. gentleman. (Hear, hear.) fin del
that people coming from London, Croydon, Bayswater, and Mr. BRADY was extremely glad t° -.iii fle
Dartford, to Blackheath (one of the lungs of London), for the government had assented to the mono is
pleasure, are not traveller, because the act newer intended knew that there were public-houses and coffee•boton_..
that persons leaving their homes for amusement should be London where ardent spirits might be obtained at all oZi;
considered travellers. On the other hand the more liberal of the day and night. He was decided,' ennwewl,_wil
bench at Ilford, Baez, held that a man going five miles measure, and believed that it was centre 10 site be
along the Mile-end-road for any pupae is • traveller. On feeling of the people. He hoped the
rms ittee li°w-theig
the other side of the Severn the latices of petty saline at appointed immediately, and would pat once ul

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