The Express.
London, England, 1855-03-20 00:00:00

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The English stock market opened steadily, bat
soon began to show flatness, and closed 1 per cent.
lower than on Saturday. The decline appeared
chiefly due to the general dulness of business, coupled
with a fall on to-day's Paris bourse. Money is very
abundant in the Stock Exchange, where it can be
obtained at 21 per cent. on government securities.
At Paris to-day the Three per Cent. Rentes closed
at 09.50 for money and account ; the Four-and-a-Half
gerts., at 94.70, for money ; and Bank shares at
The Three per Cents. have closed about 1 per
ant lower than on Saturday, whilst the Four-and-a.
Half per Cents. show no change.
Consols for the 11th April opened at 93: to
declined to 931 to 1, and closed at 93 3-16 to 1. For
money the closing quotation may be given at 93 to I.
The official business report is as follows:—Three
per Cent. Consols, for money, 931,1, 93; ditto, for
account, 11th April, 93:, 1,1, 1 ; 30 years Annuities,
expiring in 1859, 41 ; Three-and a-Half per Cent.
Exchequer Bonds, tailing payable in 1858, 991;
ditto, 1859,991, 1. India Bowls, 111. prem. Exche-
quer Bills remain quoted 6s. to 9s. prem.
Very little business was done in foreign stocks.
Turkish ranged between 801 and 801, and closed at
801 to 4, or much the same as on Saturday. Other
stocks were steady. At 4 o'clock Russian Five per
Cents. were quoted 99 to 101; ditto Four-and-a.
Halt per Cents., 89 to 91. Mexican, 201 to 21.
It is scarcely necessary to remark that Wednesday
next, which 111 appointed for a day of fasting and
humiliation, will be observed as a strict holiday
throughout the City. The Stock Exchange and all
other public establishments will be closed.
In the corn market to-day, English wheat ruled
to 2s. per qr. higher than last Monday.
The arrivals of specie continue large. The amount
brought in by the Baltic, from New York,
1,137,366 dols., or about 227,4001. The Iberia h
also brought in 17,1814 in specie, of which 16,23,
is from Lisbon, and the rest from Gibraltar and V'
The Indus, which will leave Southampton .
Alexandria to-morrow, takes out 52,5001. in specie,
of which 50,0001. consists of bar silver for Bomb.-
and 2,5001. gold for Alexandria and Ceylon.
steamer, it will be remembered, takes nu direct
for China. The amount of specie taken out by
Atrato for the West Indies, &c., is 7,2621., of which
5,0001. is silver.
The Admiralty will receive tenders on the
inst. for the supply of 30,000 cwts. of biscuit, t
delivered at Deptford, Gosport, and Plymouth.
The Admiralty will
-also receive tenders on

22nd inst. for the hire of two good coppered ships
about 730 tons each, to be employed as " regular
transports," for six months certain. These ships
to be of light draught of water, and are to be
tioned at Faro as floating depots.
The tallow market to-day was rather steadier
Petersburg advices to the 10th imit. state that
exchange on London was quoted 364 to t d.,
the price of tallow bad advanced to 120.1 f
August delivery, at which figure a few hundred
had been taken by the Russian dealers.
Regret is expressed at the defeat in the U:
States Senate of the bill for the reduction of
tariff.
The annexed memorandum is from the Commi
of Mexican Bondholders:
The Committee of Mexican Bondholders have received from
Mexican financial agency here the following statetlicLt, dated
16th inst., on the state of the conversion:
Throe per Cent. Bonds trued.
Letter A
te
et 4:
If la
No. 1 to 8,168
4,103,1

Capital £10,2.:7,
Five per Cent. Bonds Ovt yet vreconted for Couverrion
41
11
„
a
19

Capital
The receipts of the Brighton Railway Corn
last week were 9,7101., or 938!. less than
corresponding week of last year.
Laud and bank shares to-day were stead.,
shares of the English, Scottish, and AUbl
Chartered Bank showed a little flatness, ovrir,
all just made. Netherlands Land shares we e
depressed than of late. Crystal Palace shares
steady, and closed at 31 to 2,a4d the preference
at 1 to; prem. London Dock stock has beet
in at 1011 to 102; I'eninsular and C
at 571 to 581 ; Canada Land, at 1201 ; Hop,.
Steam, at 68; and Trust and Loan Compan
Upper Canada, at 51 (5/. paid). Illinois t
Seven per Cecr. 80nde,1875, are quoted in the
Exchange list, 69 to 70; ditto Seven per Cent.
Lane), 1860, 1 to 2 prem.; and New York an(
3rd Mortgage Bonds, 1883, 81 to 83.

tell I
SI

THIS DAY.—Two o'CLocK.

584 8

The English funds have experienced a ft
per cent. owing to some large sales, which ha
accompanied by a report that unfavourat
vices have been received from Vienna.
sole for the 11th April were first marl
fell to 924 to a, recovered to 924 to 4, and
quoted 92;; to 4. For money the present qi
is 923 to 4. The New Two-and-a-Halt per
have been dealt in at 781; India Stock, al
Exchequer Bills, at 6s. to 9a. prem.; Bank
account, at 216: and India Bonds, at lle. prci
The foreign stock market is less firm, owin;
fall in Consols, but the change in price
mainly limited to Turkish, which hasdeclined
to 4. Mexican is quoted 204 to 21 ; f
Deterred Three per Cents., 184 tot ; and
Five per Coats., 99 to 101. Dutch Tao-aru
per Cents. have been dealt in at 63; ditto
Cent. Certifs. at 943 to ; Venezuela Activ(
Ruebian Four-and-a-lialt per Cents., at
Brazilian Old Five per Cents., at 1014 to 1

MINES.
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MONDAY E
There have been some inquiries to-day I
in Wheal Buller, South Wheal Frances, an
Otherwise the British mining market is dul
The gold mining shares remain quiet.
The chief feature of the day was a rem
demand, towards the close of the market,
Mexican shares, which closed at SI to
further rise of 11. since ti is morning. Linares
were firmer. The directors of this comp-
declared a dividend of 104. per share on
aid-up shares, payable on the 16th Apr+
half-yearly meeting is to be held on the 2tir

THIS DAY.—Two o'CLocit.
The quotations of the gold mining shares
little more than nominal. Agua Fria t
quoted 3 to ;.; ; Nouveau Monde, / to 3-16
Gold, 5.16 to 7-16; and Great Nugget Vti
all per share.
Australian Agricultural shares are quoi
311; Peel River, 21 to 3; Moth 13d
tralasian, die. to par ; and Scottish
Investment, 8 to 3 prem.
United Mexican shares do not fully m.
rise of yesterday afternoon, but have been
to some extent at 53 to 51. St. John 1.41
293 to 301 ; Cubre, 50 ; English and Mist rah
per, 13 ; South Austrulisn Mining, par ;
Preference shares of the Company of Copp,
in England, 24.

To Ges CONSUMERS.—Within the law
three days a series of robberies have been if'
vicinity of thr Gress, Northern o d Nortb-We
by a man callioct himself an i.speetor of att
Imperial Gas Company, and tint up for the
beds, pencil. and the other outvaid size's of bu,in,
patltsatios of the fiat will probably be sufficient
his film* astetwer.

•
) '
O. .
ily, bat I •
oee cent.
Plo-ared I
coupled •
• is very ;
t can be
rities.
es closed
•
ihanis at
out 1 per
31 to 1,
1. For
t 93 to
:—Three
iitto, for
annuities,
ice Cent.
X5B, 991;
Excite-
n stocks.
closed at
y. Other
Five per I
our-stidise
fll to 21.
Vedoeeday
sting and
A holiday
re and all •
t ruled
he amount
York, is
Iberia has
h 16,2311.
• end Vigo. •
,mpton for
in specie,
r Bombay,
'lon. This
direct mail
out by the
~ of which
n the 23rd
iscuit, to be
dere on the •
red ships of
is " regular
se ships are
re to be eta-
teadier. St.
ate that the
to t d. and
120.101 for
andred casks
the United
dim of the
I '
o Committee
tived from the
wet.% dated the
...C2,591,800
.. 1,340,400
2,091),(00
4,1110,000
. £10,227.200
Ntuyersten:
£4,500
1,950
2,000
e,OOO
1' i 4,050
way Company
than in the
steady. The
Id Australian •
owirg to the
;urea were less
De skeins were
iference shares
has tarn dealt
and Oriental
Royal Mail
Company of
linois Central
d in the Stock •
ler Cent. (Free • I
fork and Erie,
OCK.
id a fall of 1
hich have been
favourable ad-
Vienna. Cen-
t mulled 931,
, and arc now
eseut quotation
felt per Cents. I
ock, at 2231;
B.iiik Stock for
lls. prem.
n, owing to the
price appears
declined to i 9-1
o 21 ; Spanish
•
•, and Russian
Teo-and-a-Half
ditto Four per
Active at 231;
e., at 90 ; and
l 3 to 1021.
IDLY EVEN:NO.
o-day for shares
:ea, and Gilmar. II
t is dull.
iiet.
a renewed active
rake t, fur LLited ••
51 to 6, being a
r. Linares shares
s company have
✓e
on the 10,000
6th April. The
the 2Sth inst.
;LOCH.
g shares continue
Fria shail'A are
to 3-16 ; Colonial
get vtin, to
re quoted 300 to
th ltiitislt
Aua-
tttish As,tralian
ally miint.iin the
ye been t:talt in
n ltty mark
Australian Cop-
• par ; awl the
of Copp. r Miners
the last t 'so or
been Iffecnd in the
h-We t. to !I .1 • aye
Of eaters trot.: 11. e
,r the port r.cl
ins of btr.in.,s.
II sufficient t. pri.yer.t

I m I'ERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS.—MOSDAT, Mabee" 19.
The Lord Chancellor took his seat at 6 o'elodr..
THE-CASE or MR. CiRDIN. -.--.
Lord BROIIOII ill said, wing hie sable hind the late
Lord Liniment of Inland ((whom he, sad Le had ito
doubt many persons, »trotted to ban to sell the late lord'
Untie tat) as his plies, he begged to give hhn soble-lkat
he should to-morrow (this day) ask • gonna rsopeeting SOB '
cue of Mr. Carden. 1
THE CAVALRY CHARGE AT BALAHLAVA.
The Rat of LUCAN mound for spies et some nda
• sad uneneadene reopening the nage of the ht
Cavalry brigade at the action of Babklan. He den detailed
with much minuteness the prooomilep of that day,. .ad the
tenor
of the orders he had received boo Loe:ceißtresta,
of the
oos
toadies that these orders, together with the
left him
nano English and Preach eorge at the time,
mainly waken diatonic& to decline or delay their esecetion.
Me essauded as follows :—I lived sad acted with air Colin
Campbell for ton swathe; sad what did ht say whoa I
came away ? He said, " I shall always remenba this—
that when this wet fell of croakers and grumblers, I
knew you to lank at nay dillitolty." I feel Gat seek a
teittmeny from sash a amuse Sir Con Campbell h Malay
fletterter. (Hera hear) The 'disincline& seW,
saaralgian needed the son who, when other Alan were
sod ranks away from their duty, was always
Mail pot." It bas been said that I exhibited • want of
missal ameregeAsa bg the order. What is the oinks of all
eineffitterp mash lahlan ? That the order woo 'asperities
sad that I had ne nein. What is the opinee of the
Gahm of sty diebletri Then is not an offie“ 'amused-
bg eny of the tia regbarati that did not my, " The order
llsash that Ad ass den refuse it." Some said,
"11 yet had ariatker coulee, you night have
wed It, ht. v: would awn have b..
ese use 1M spalans .ir.r.b.,4.omashoorowywtse.
will now give you the onsion of an Aloof who, wan-
nastily, is as more—l men Sir George Calmat. (Hear,
hear) I shell give you 9s- George Cathcart's °pint's with
regard to the Babklava ehasgetand my conduct in connexion
with it. It meaner canna by Sir G. Catboat that this
letter would nee usder ay entre sad it was by the
merest accident Mane late my band. And, wham it
will not be quite inineicallej it I tell you that this is an
surest from • ling bon air George to Lady Georgina
'Cathcart,; that ft wee en hie pane mhos be Sell; sad was
taken from his body, pierced with UN beast which coat
hint his life. It is dated 2nd Nonnber, throe days before
the battle of Iskinasan ; sad Sir George um " I hare
anther opportruatj of writing to you. You will have
read about the affair of Bilaklava, is which the light
smeary sedan so severely. It was • non gallant
but unfortunate affair. Neither Lord Lunn ROT
Lord Cardigan was to blame, bet on the enemy,
for they obeyed ceders." (Hear, hear.) Hs contlana,
" My division was emit for, bet they had en miles to oome."
This shuts the Gann of the fortes whin lard Raglan
said wen map le impart me. Now I do sot wish pow
nee fan eo.er, bat I repeat that I wished to do my duty,
whom 1 baud nnelf recalled, alter • eonespeademos which
gave me gnat pain. I was not told that I was recalled by
the PrlmMilligni bat was given to madonna that I was re-
sargiVeto
ealla is ter I defy any one to fled la the
dilated a wialkstisti assures*. (Hese.) Oss might
has Mat the sable duke oe the Commander-
ImOilef add have eadesaand to have asthma the regal,
based of whisk tare was seta single word of eseesistioe.
Adding. thing whisk I dust maks is, that bd.!, I left
INN Majesty did me the high besour of wide, me to
lieskingh•Vses es ay apelausent, sad *see is a
e ars of lash tyke bee set reesived ben her Ma-
isel the some mark of panes seassesaism Owe my
ratan, her Majesty has act "mind ans. I Mel *et has-Majesty stair sea de mamba ; bat I Simi nyerlf
la this palsies es my name. that I maid set, lest it
should peen emkarmiadid, de swat the limed: et waiting
os her Majesty. I Inn mow se_ wskOse der the Maga at
which I have doubled your Sethi* Te the genessmat
I say, you have weasel, grieves* erneged. as masa •
soldier as her Majesty hes is late sada IMI e
government—that I have shows you to bide sated=.
I all on you to give my statement file coranbeaffialle end
U you an oravined that you have, in my NO% admitted
gross Westin, I ask you no more that to sessadder year
decision and give MI II court martial, ban Whisk I may
prove Nay inacieses. (Cheers.)
The Earl of CARDIGAN said he deeply regretted that
he found it snowy to address their lordship', even for a
moment, beano he had come to the house with the deter.
reinatioa of Rot taking any part in the diocesan. He had
risen, however, to Correa a statement of the noble
lord eoneerning himself. The noble lord said that
he (Lord Cardigan) sent in side•d•-camp to say that the
many wen in sash fora In the front as to render it diffi-
cult tor him to hold his ground. H. (Lord Cardigan) sent
no such message. What he said was, that rho hills on each
tide of the valley in which was the Russian battery wen
severed with Russian riflemen, sad that there wen Ruins
tank batteries • and when the lieutenant-general came in
front, and ordered him (Lord Cardigan) to attack the bat-
tery in the valley, beyond which another and heavy Russian
battery was plead, the fact became evident. The riflemen
were distinctly vistble, bet the liestentintionera said that
to attack was Lad Raglan's positive order. So true was
his (Lord Cardigan's) report, that they had not advanced
2A yards when Captain Nolen, who was galloplig about the
front, but by no means leading the charge, was killed by a
Well which case from one of the very flank batteries he
had pointed out. He merely made them observations to
remove misconception.
Lord PANMURE said—l believe that a more diatoms
discussion than the present was never brought before your
lordships, and that a gallant officer—one whom courage his
not boon doubted—has never been placed in so painful a
position as the noble and gallant earl has been this night.
The noble and pliant earl has gone into the details of his
services is the East, and of certain brave mid gallant
actions in which he was engaged, with a minuteness
which was extremely interesting. Bat at the same time
your lordships will perceive that it is • subject isle
which it is impossible for me to follow him. It
is a subject upon which I cannot presume to give say
opinion, though I most say that in following the noble
earl's spun I was somewhat surprioed by the highly.
sauteed and ex parts statements which he thought fit le
make—statements which it is impossible on the instant to
&saw, and which impugn the judgment and discretion of
thole having the command and direction of our army. No
en can be more deeply icepresnd than I can be in what
has been called the misconception of an order by the noble
earl, and in the disastrous effects which attended it. Bat,
lay lords, I cannot say that I regret altogether what took
plan nor do I dash that that gallant charge—which will
never be effaced from the records of British arms (avan)—
has been entirely without good result. It has carried into
the hurt of ate enemy a fear of British covens which, I
am quit* envineed, will be of great and good service to the
army yet epos some haute occasion, and that the eight of
those fellows who charged so bravely in the valley of 'abse-
ntia& will, on some future wall-fought field, put to flight
the squadrons of Ruda, it may be without • collision so far
as they are encomed. (Hear, hear.) My lords, I had
anticipated that the noble and gallant earl—for gallant I
admit him to be in every sense of the word (hear, hear)—
would have argued that point lapoa which he
has ea former eseseloas laid so nisch stress—
. viz. the bassi Mr inquiry. But to that point
of ' his ems tbs nib earl has referred simply in
the latter part et his speen. He has contented himself
with i yindicallia of his deduct, and with urging before
your lordships M Westin of what has been done • he
has not, however, Mil anything as to his claims for a °Out-
martial, or the geepisty or expediency of greeting eon a
claim. With. INGlfilla to the recall of the noble and gallant
eta, I have simply le refer to the papers which are in your
lordships' heads. Tbe aeMe earl,
eli ind•ed, stator ,
that t
that h
is
recall might have bees men courteously. worded
might have bees in terms more considerate to-
wards himina My]dis, it was distinctly set forth in that
recall, that will se tad ice regard to the nobs earl's gelliw
try wastbadesnmeet woosomPaL Ciroesssleass had seas
betwees do rids and rasa earl sad his Oemmedier•lio-
Chid, sad out of them abominated 1I wade bed
ocean*. Those ware refereed le la • delemok el OW 011 s•
assalet-imObie4 whored Laid Magda sure the die-
mina need se the dawn whin referesee bee se ellea
bees seas te a whesseepsies erne noble and plisse and t
sad it was erldeddsse saber Majesty's geeeesmoss that
the maddens* shish is Zit 'sin between the
semwsaddrimalst a gaud eadamusftd a =
et the sail bed le a certain extent bees intern with.
It opal le her Majesty's gowersissat, mdse than dr-
aldeasame draft was for the tomtit of Oho pobikt sad to
the adeaday el the army that ose et She Gebel dean
dimes shed& be media ;an soy beds, I thiak yea
leM agree with de that le the sem oomotoodlog the
des that need dwell be address/. The sable sad gal-
lant earl says that be beetitied to ea Insley late his ad-
duct. If this we a lineation merely salsa M the seMi
and gallant earl, I assid, perhaps, have UM illilltgiars
advising apes the insiout occasion. But your
will peratin that is this as in all other military dean,
a peessised sat is the setsof the noble and gallon nit
meat be lammed iiiiiiwgbout the whole army ; the law for
him nen la Ile law he the messed whale la the ranks.
The queslissA,a„e,.. Oen me Ole ia to ewes-
plaint of the net which woad WI in tallies
for as inquiry urges Ibis wallah say sesee than say manin this ranks, whiseendect had been esseassi by his supe-
rb/ *doer, midi chid the right to have did NSW,
deternined apes by a military nun. Neer I trick there
is so right is thb ens which is eat leaded ups Iwo, sad
time sno law epos which ddemated um tars. esadthe
law by which the army is governed. fhb is 111110.110 ia
the Mutlay Act, the Articles of War, mid the edam el
war, sanctioned by lag usage. My dais I have belted
Iva an tato the Mutiny Act ; I ken asked with ere
lamas Articles of War ; 1 hays rellinair awl Wm the gasil
advise, le ell the swam et war ; sad I masa
=le ese or the ether, say sessed Ise swans to the
dada
d *5 mhos sad saint bid epos the reign
ossailia, tbe Alma which lis hes made for 'equity by a
nilVallellmml. There are ease Ruler the Mutiny eat
1s shish a edam la an option of tried by • court-
seribi or et istmlNag d man pesWmrat of forfeiture
a payadr lenelsoneest; bet these moos are opeeilleally
lei we in the sot of nannies ; they are speeilleslly
nuked out la the Artistes of War. Asa under aot ea et
diem heads ma tke am ol the noble sad Ballast earl be

...ed by the mu..
gaiiat lord la hie-iip—Pii Pis a *nauseate' The RAN
toad • saysieeliaShoope_ are briogia mpg
him Lon Regina. Sim sly lads, so '
- usraeraiseliactinswapiiiitt
i=hrzsitahaTehasaut
pcipleg slaw ref Se re ,a tile proem
Nudge et the Isna Nall he sphismiltsszhina,
-Chief. Oartia hes ham at tad
ltd.= "hd..Pui:r ri .1.6:.,. it
net , PAW beer at:raitated to elljatt ellen
Wlllailem=sativer cad ever
_man t Mum the
did tbe Dube a W ery
Wthealreenireptioa a ems oriettrairepeses,
le sen4allmath el wear ceder by MOWN penes,
dranselhalla miseerdei ; end did the Duke
a Par gait of brioslagamee Asa; before a
a Ili three afoot war demand a
l I i f reessr=iss the e4nrery
pitiak
el be tried by • whim his
wounded by remarks it his emptier Aar. Ibiro I=
be aa end at wires te sink, is the raimg, ea sad to all
power la the wsike. to late am gad a all Patrol what-
etr...fl2leanaut am seppat that la this Wwe we wen to
• in the veto sad OLP earl to have as
.irarTby an the thanes to be lareaglit for card ?
Are they to be brought timid by Lord &Pea himself ?
r Rear, boar," from Lard Lam) It is evilest that the
setae lard who sheen keine seeking whatever of military
law if he did he woad be perfectly aware that its Ant
is, that whim ea Ober or soldier who has been
with any .rime fier whisk he may be brought to a
imi
.sail-martial le empieued se dray before that mertmartial
lakes ple" sae Pam amine him frost the aims which
balm ammlllal. The party who would have to frame the
has sendesed tie of see, and he 'linnet, seder
drew
ephea the ladividsal ea employed. I think
that the in d gallant earl will And that, although
Imoink he has shwa his competeas to do
mil &dna Wises is the field, I will not yield
te him la disusehe the tesngitiee of military law sad
I Milk ke will IP thee I psi
interpret it. If 'Lord
Sagan ameet Items them shape, is the Judge- Adelman
Seas& Is hoes them t If this were so, they would be
ammed by an sear who declared that the shame would not
had water, emash as the set has hem condoned, and it
that soy merman of a court-martial would be
amirmed spa that ground, even admitting that a court-
Paid essU At upon the matter. Bat I place the
whale .w, after all, u the question of the diecip-
las of the. army; for the more I look into
the matter, the Pre plainly do I gee that a military
Was this ealisios would be feel te that discipline.=saw your lordships to what took place last year. A
amakoka set spa the sub set of the promotion el Alan
lath envy. What mad be tor grievance to a military
gem than I. les WPM ever in cases of promotion.
Bat that amakatot oessmeneated promotion for merit
dun, PI that altars of noted and general merit
he pressed... it their turn, and over the heads of
other allma thus simisa. Now, if all the °San over
wham heads ether maw Were eer were to state that they
had •
to lammash as they had been pawed over,
aad were to de-
diteltairy into their merits, I appre-
hend it woad be to say. where that inquiry was to
mil. (War, hear.) The fact is, that the more your lord-
ship lash lato the matter the more your lordship will
wee with me that, without imputing to the noble and
plat earl mything whatever which may reflect
tupon his
WM. er dal sad without relennee to any Do upon
Ishii he maw .milder himself aggrieved, when these mie-
POlNtaillitalfalle between himself and Lord Raglan, the
iesnalmt wee justified in sending out his neat. I
eam
atil I an held oat to the noble and gallant earl so gaper
loam of oar °maidens( the determination to which
we have some. I am afraid that I ems give
Ida so answer to the at parte statement which
he ha. made of the events whisk have attended
the campaign in whisk he was sapral. Ido hope and
Ina that, after the appal whisk the mile sad pllaat earl
has made, after the eppestweitc whisk year kedeldp have
kleraleeln him of Pang the whale eiresmilessee of his
Ode unfortunate enii=Teeenoseverey will
eirishear)—ead I demote hs that when
dB statement pee huh to OAPs, that it
ell aid to the anzsetW of IP gallant general to whom
we as dl se deeply ladebta--(liser, hear)—for the exert
Seim chili ha is making In the Mid se battle, and that it
=oar miss the pealtisa via; he occupies etill men
to him than ft PP ham hem treat tall that has
pond in this country data, the maths whisk have
gaped since hie absence. (Cheese.)
Viseatat HARDINOR added ease MAW esplanatione
of the warn adopted hy the Wavelike towards Lord

intridses in IA 7•t fit

-I;llCift.
The Duke of the Earl of DERBY, the Duke I
Of NO/MIAMI, sod the Earl of LIARDWICK3 briefly spoke,
and, the Earl of LIICAN having replied, the motion was
Wood to.
DESPATCH OF BUSINESS (COURT OF CHAN-
CERY) BILL.
This bill was read a mooed tine.
COMMONS ENCLOSURE BILL.
This bill passed through committee.
Their lordships adjourned at ten ideates to nine.

MOUSE OF COMMON:.—MONDAY, MANCE 19.
The Sestsas took the their a little before 4 o'clock.
PRIVATE BUSINESS.
The following private bills were read a third time end
resod : —Folkestone Water Bill; Hearwithy-bridge Bill;
I Panda Improviser Company Bill, as amended ; Prica's
I Patent Candle Company Bill ; Raton Gas Bill ; and Bur-
-1 my_ Gas Bill.
The Bombay, Bards and Central Dais Railway Bill
(sescad reading) was postponed to April 2nd.
Leave was given to brin ia the linglaad and Ireland Im-
proved Communication Bill, and several other private bills.
PUBLIC BUSINESS.
LOCAL MANAGEMENT OF TEE METROPOLIS.
Sir B. HALL brosght in his bill for the better local
management of the metropolis, which was real a first time,
and the second reading appointed for the 15th of April.
NOTICES OF MOTIONS.
Mr. GREGSON gave notice that, on Friday next, be
should ask some questions with referents to a recent notifi-
cation of the Board of Trade concerning the charges payable
on British ships Jo the Ave ports of China.
Sir J. SHELLEY gave notice that he should move this
day for same further eomspondence about the case of Mr.
sail.
RAILWAY TRAINS.
Mr. F. SCOTT had a question to ask of the Secretary for
ilile RIM Thleirilaest. Three weeks ego ha gave notice
liel he Amid orstisa this matter, which was of
smilersbis impselases and he bad been waiting in hops
list there well be sem gentleman mere particularly con-
soled with tie Bad el Trade to reply to the question.
In bad always saidemesed, in sower to former inquiries.
Swathe matter was uslerring investigation between the
Beard of Trade sad tie sallway companies. A short time
ago, a very maims smiler occurred, but during the two
ears that be (Mr. Sr* was ehainnth of a railway sten-
y posy Mae am bow member was called to order, and
reseeded to pal hi swiss into this form.) Having
eemblished ea the llestilllesters Railway • communication
between the (sari Mid mine driver of every passrger
train, whisk was rissipally of ay own invention, and that
'Araks having bra is see fee two years without any
raider, I wish sew le ask of bar Marety's governmeatd
what sir hise loess takes by the Board of Trade, an
what steps kis reposed to take, is order to oblige every
railway company te oNallish salt a eentraareatios.
air G. GREY said that a bill was prepared last session
with the view of draft that object, but that owing to the
lessees of the smiles it wee sot brought in. A circular was,
however, addriesi to the railway companies, and the eor-
reseemleses to OM ft led had since been presented to
•ME bed boss prepared, and would shortly
is Ilm=sesd by lib mile friend the President of the Board
d Tide.
TEE ORDER OF MERIT.
SMELL said that before C ,
hriststas he pro.
gstillethi here he ress her Majesty, essals
isthe
ateldiElmestlbe et es Odereld of Merit; and the this of
the beer mid the seater Arid be taken into
oaths Duke of kissed* had since said tow* as
sir would be establialted; the treed= he swirl to ask
was this; wadi lie sable lord, the Pik Lied of the
Trersary, tell bit grislier the germs.' bed decided to
fiend the imekstlas of es Order of Melt • sad if so,
whether the area MB Wendel le be a few and distinct
ass, restricted to tie fairy est naval services, and ap-
ble to eve cell% eels whether it was determined to
unielletirAlL.llll7lll3lloM. Ithe blokes at bar Me-
tetai=ratrt, asbiwasea
oaliSereder
ii It= kaivxdou.seseetsf
none k willimplor to both SWIM bemuse we ber
merit will be is both atlas& (Cheers.)
The arrelagelnlSlSSlt=stlitatice have mart boo set-
tied. Istsmatis hes bass see& for in mbar santries,
in which similar keilsk/ss mist ; and use that Warms-
lea is obtaird, the greentstutt is not able le flaw die
ragsbetimis emit willi Sat seder will be distribeted.
GOTEIGINNIT 011 THU lONIAN ISLANDS.
Ns a
GROGAN mill GM a nisi time ego. mines was
mid about SM Lest WO Oimmidialla 0 the Inks
\
Moles ad Ike "same gm, that wellmine had
bees eased to a right hes. breast lately the
OW Souramy for Island. bat set assellsi Is mold
ask an, trer my send balmstioa bat pot boss mode
Wilke Sea Ma. sam so to Inaba be wish omen the
te
weastateso t, end U ass, how lei that uppoistmeat mold
Sir G. OBEY said the hen. mailman had sot quite se.
reedy sadesellsed his Omer es ewer. What be led sail
watt isms beloatimi Gatlin espelstamat should be un-
kind ea the sight his. mallemse; bat that he (Sir G. Osey)
wee ait put swam that No eight boa. 'skei s
nm
hiem lt.
swam ihr Cana at imeally semen it. theT
km. sestina= bal sow dose eo. GM the emannos would.
is made sot as sent se be &sod be away is some 0..4
essersian t.
Nr. GROGAN this ismd the Alie Speabiet tr At be
heas4 for a sew demise for till "slaty of Cass, is the
isms of Sir John Tort
AVIA to.

owes sa_kailli
say deltas ipt the bill. If, therefore, itt should the It la-
d the house to clibsOthe bill to-sight, t Win lifehabil
no
ernesldat for so Si peepose say *utmost eta
eider do the emend reeding of that bill, which ts azia
this sushi. If, however, the house is WWI* le nat.
to ay stassmost sow, sad postpone the &heti lotn the
seised readieg, I shall be reused to praes sd holtedists4
to
•
Kr. DISRAELI—I thirsts is would be Tim • wsnosient
the loose to be favored wish the statement of the right
has. gostbsoas sow, u thus is eossiderable of tensity with
must to the oast meaning of his resolutions. (A laugh.)
The &sum then lift the slab, and the h Ism wait

into committee.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER punned=
Kr. Bowerie—ls the year 1851, a seat eonassittee sme &P-
-rofane% on the widen of my right hon. friend the i am-
ber tor llnehaster, to inquire into the question of the
newspaper stamp. That committee examined many
ems= and investigated the entire subject in considerable
detail. They embodied their opinions, the result of that
inquiry, in a report, and that report terminates with the
following passage :—" In =adagios, you, committee con-
sider it their duty to direct attention to the °Mations and
abuses incident to the present system of newspaper stamps,
Brian from the difficulty of defining and determining the
mining of the term news, from the inequalities that exist
in the application of the Newspaper Stamp Act, the sauna-
lies end endow thereby occasioned in the postel arrange-
ments, the unfair competition to which the stamped news-
papers are expend with the onetamped, the limitatioas im-
posed by the law on the circulation of the best newspapers,
and the impedimenta thrown in the way of the diffusion of
useful knowledge regarding current and recent events
soma the poorer classes—a =Kiss of knowledge re-
lating to events which must Interest them, and
awaken their euriosity sad intelligence' The Ina-
mines then said, " How far it may be expedient that this
tax should be maintained as a source of revenue, either in
its present or in a modified form, your committee do not
relate: other considerations, which are beyond their pro-
vince, enter into that question ; but, apart from fiscal con-
siderations, they do not consider that news is, in itself, a
desirable subject of taxation." My right hon. hand (its-.
M. Gibson) followed up that subject in subsequent sessions ;
sad in the last semi= he brought forward a resolution
which, after debate, wee carried by en unanimous vote of
this hem. That resolatien is in the following words:
—" That it is the opinion of this house that t e
h
laws is reference to the periodical press and ne ws-
piper stamp are 111-defined and unequally enforced;
Il end it appears to this house that the subject
Idemands the early onsiderstion of parliament."
That resolution, sir, having been agreed to unanimously by
las house during last senile, the question naturally came
Waif the consideration of Lord Aberdeen's government
Ming the noses. The subject fell naturally within the pro-
Ibis alb, right hon. friend the member for the Univt nity
id Onkel. The plan which he submitted to the maiden-
*. of Ile gnomon is now before the house. It is-
lOe . substantially, the abolition of the newspaper stamp as
a Wiffiralsory stamp. The reasons which pressed epos Lord
Alielless's goverment at that time were, partly, the
meeliMen moieties of the House of Commons
of the l
state the anomalous duriogwhich bad
last
main ; and partly, te aw
peen up of late years under the administration of the
hand Board of Review. That anomalous state of the law,
which was fully avestigated by the committee in the year
1851, grew from relaxations introduced for the purpose
of meeting the views of a epodes of periodical
publications which are now known by the denomination of
" class
_newspapers." The first ease,
ea I understand, in
which relaxation was admitted, .was that of a literary
gazette, which contained merely critical notices, mere re-
views, and wes not a newspaper within thentrict meaning of
the law. It was found, however, by the managers of that
sear" that it would be convenient that a portion of
its eindelks should enjoy the privilege of the stamp, in
order thin it should be transmitted through the Post-office ;
sad meestingly in a portion of its impression a few lines
of *bad news were introduced, in order to qualify it for a
newspeger stamp. In that manner, the priple was
ineeiriel of a partly stamped and partly unstamped
lIPIONiss. That principle was afterwards extended to a
kip number of periodical publications, relating to objects
dish interested particular classes—such, fa instance, as
painans; there were publications relating to law, to
=lto architecture, also to horticulture, and various
114111seters. In all them oases, by degrees the rale was
mallihed that they should not be considered as newspapers
subject to a compulsory tax, but that a portion of the lin-
II pression might be stamped, for convenience of
gransmission through the post office. After a time
a pestles of then periodical publications introduced
news he the proper sense of the word ; it was not political
news, lust it was literary news ; it was news relating to the
legal, the medical, sad to ether prole ions ; and there can I
be no doubt that esserding le the stela manned= of the
law, a large wassibee ettheS dais et gmblications which en-
joy
id a pedal kincesik hen the stiesp were newspapers
is the Mist eassming of the law, and subject to penalties if
say perdesef their intents were =tamped. These relaxa-
tion had hen, however, established, and this was the state'
and peonies which my right hon. friend found
in edam during the last mess; when the
gabfest ime under his consideration. If the go.
weenie= had decided to disregard the unanimous
reedaden of the house, and to attempt to enforce the law
this class of publishers, they must, in order
ter2seghlradministration uniform, instead of anomalous
have ghosted prosecutions to be instituted against thii
Ike NI Ai •or they must have come to parliament
fees MO= • 'the existing law more severe and stria.
t. lb, my rig t bon.ra friend decided, and in my opinion
be minket • very wise discretion—he decided not to at-
tempt tosender the law more stringent, but to relax it and
lie Isabela 'Worm. The plan which lam about to submit
to tam Imes is identical in substance and in principle with
the pigs if my right honourable friend ; the details are
sot Weed/4 bat the plan is founded on the selfnme prin.
ciplel_a= whatever credit may belong to the adoption of it,
it wag to due, not tome, but to him. Now, sir, the outline
of the bill which I will ask the permission of the house to
lay on the table, if the resolutions shall be ogre= to, is
fended is the knowing principle : To abolish the legal
dada's of s ancepaper, and extend the existing rules
with riven le newspapers to all printed periodical publica-
tions WOO SWOT at intervals not greater than thirty-one
dadardZia nand to ell periodicals falling within that
She pressed pest =lt respect to the publica-
tion a my t a stamp will be re-
pealed ; and iatiMagelbe optimal with the proprietors
dramisr periodical, either te Mop any portion of their '
on or to leave it elle yam untamed. Is other
rapes's, ifZeline to the 1101111Iplaii and apply fee
Mar es to print isyrk. of their paper, they
will lm enifeet to preeMly same rale with respect to '
supiefilial entente es s newspapers are subject to ; ,
that is to say, the AM sliest mpg contain 2,296 superficial '
Mime, covered by a Me, el li. and the se ond sheet may !
nano 1,141 vane lms e, mend by a stamp of id. •
In that mesa! I repose to make no alteration, but '
simply to Mum the preent limit of :siding entente 1
to all periedisal publication whisk' appear within '
thirty-on days. I further feeneee,si‘that with regard to '
all *Medical sublimation alit MI gasp say prertbm of 1
m& eivriklika. Sky shell he inkhoot to the plant isle
ins
gesteineks and milks Thies rule% ikon '
nibs ibilming eliet:—Any penes new lookout el pleb-
" Hebb. a semposer, makes a deeleratioa at the
ofike, and be toreiehat a copy of every sumber of hie
1 Unties. whisk is iegistered at the Stomp
sad Ike lesaustien et it is evidence' of po
NOM Om pinny Mt publisher of that unnpaper.
Ifficepemi that NW of say periodical is desirous
dil gloirdiegagY of his periodical, that he shall be
ea** Tulsa with regard to securities. I
' fortbee that should be subject to the existing
roles le winks. At present the proprietor of
=li Met Wad himself in recogaissnoes to a en-
ema he is bound to produce two sureties in
Leaden 11 wenn of 4001., and Gaon country to ate
emest of 11911 to newer say pros or civil motion
Ns- libel whirh may be brought against him. These
pm peovianier, in the Medici law which we propose
elle gilds with regard to all newspapers rump'
VI 067 Pr elks of theirpublioatises. The reasons
we pre gem to Teton then provision is the exlsting
low are the t sae time it bee bees the policy cif this
sentry a o silke so &anguished from pam-
phlets is d ether Soil or not political,
which sr e set the of an except and
sewn, . with regard to seserities against libel.
The ana w ,elfin these neuritis' have been canvassed
inn Sim onset wad the pelisy ef then my be assidered
,as ands& It
that
to be kin tbat poilv_eas be =
erguntest. llllll is 1111 mantle' IMMO.
sewspopets thelets sad ether Smiler pubbiatiese
with man kw el OIL The newspaps2r=
penning Taliketiss. bee es inebikbed
whisk is, to a griel Meat. Ilinteal ever thi
whole sentry. That elessleties As also skean&
anus ; :it flies es tisseigie the peat on the same
day to every part of the Tbeessav is that
say Ilbelloss natter tin eliiinater any taint-
dual simian • Taub meta &stringing banns than is
the ease la a ratification dESPa to a pamphlet. There are
antt gentleman in this knee she bashed experlese;
m
of the publication of a longing i nal may know
with what &faculty I cpusphlet struggles into au*

-4111 ltm with regard to newspapers. irligirre7s7 ijiiir
ire *units win Molted to *editions mad
Mespbassou lash, and it was • measure bandana he pen
rt, real or supposed, of the gentremC
° however, found after some =es
then sere Valuable neuritis@ which might be ex-
tended to the pub,* and anordingly by a subseintest
est actions for private libels were brought within its provi.
siou. The consequence is that at present every private
penal who brings an anion against a newspaper is pro-
tected by the recognissams of the proprietor of that
newspaper. Therefore, if the provides& to whist! I have
adverted were repealed, the securities for good order,
whatever may be their vane would be taken away, and
not only that, but a most valuable severity to prints indi-
viduals, whose characters may be tradused is noweripers,
moat be gone. For these =sons, we repose to continue
these provisions in the bill abort to be brooght before the
house, with regard to all periodicals stamping airmr•-•
pr-
lion of their impression, and those volwaterily
jag thenselvss seder the operation of the stamp area
At the same time it is right for me te nate thee
these provisions an no essential or neseseary past
of the plan I shall submit to the home ; they
is no way affect the exchequer, and they belong rather to
tke general gusting of the criminal or civil law. Her
Majesty's government believe them to be founded eon
soiled policy,. and in thin belief they proem that these
rit= be continued. I hue now stated is general terms the
effect of the plan Fpropose. The effect of it will be to
legalise the present role with regard to dais publieselone.
With regard to sand publications as the Builder, the Ake-
mauve, the Medical, Times,. and tie Medical (arms,
,they will be pensitted by the law to retain
that indulgence Istria they now possess, preen
sally it defiance of • the law or at least =sanctioned
its the law. They will be permitted to retain that exemp-
tion, and vs stamp snob portion of their impression as they
think fit The same Ityisletion will be extended to the
whole of the rest of the peas, the political newepepers, such
as the Tinws, or the Morfsing Herold, or the Morning Ad-
vertiser. They will be subject to precisely the same rules
as the Atheneum now is 'object to. They will be per-
mitted to stamp that portion of their =pension, they wish
to send by post. and if then/. be sap demand independent
of that which is wanted by transmission by post they will be
permitted to publish that portion of their impression
without a stamp. Beyond that *hang, Ido not :prop= to
go. The bill which I beg leave entomb to the hones will
be confined to that. I would now, sir. with the permission
of the house, examine certain objection which have been
made to this plan, and which have been represented as fatal
to its successful operation. One of these is, that there would
be great confusion in the printing establishments, in priat-
iog a portion of the impression on stamped paper and a por-
tion on =stamped paper, and, consetneestly, loss to the pro-
prietor of the newspaper. Now, air, I have used my best
endeavour to ascertain how far that objection is well
founded. In the first plan, it may be stated that the
number of the existing clue ;papers, of which a return has
been moved by my hon. friend the member forWestainster,
is not less than 137, all of which publications conduct their
business with • mixed circulation of stamped and =stamped
copies. With regard to any one of that numerous slam of
I quasi aewepapers, the presumption is that no practical dif-
I catty is found in a mixed circulation. The principal newe-
-1 paper, however, which publishes a pinion of its impression
lopes stamped and a portion on =stamped paper, is the
periodical which is familiarly known to all the members of
the house—namely, Punch. Punch published 425,000
stamped copies in the year 1854. I understand the gross
I circulation is about 40,000 a week, of which 8,000
I are printed on stamped paper, sad about 32,000
as =stamped paper. I have had an interview
with the manager of that periodical—(laughter)—not
, he the purpose of inquiring into the manner in which that
1, herresting publication is compiled, but in order to inquire
hte the economical part of the management, and he was so
Pod as to inform me that not the least difficulty arose with
the printing of that paper, that no confusion in
7:rtin te g
the mixed impression partly on stamped and partly
on unit imped paper was occasiesed ; and he described the
difficulty to be, in his idea, altogether imaginary. I have
made further imply= of the publisher of the Athel444M,
which is a publication printed partly on stamped and partly
on =stamped paper, and I was informed that about 3,000
copies of the Atheneum are printed on stamped and 4,200
on =stamped paper. The gentleman connected with that
paper stated that there was no practical difficulty in
conducting that paper. It was said, moreover, that the
number of stamped copies varied according to the greater or
less demand for certain numbers; and, moreover, that at the
period of the year when many gentlemen went out of Lon-
doe, there was a greater demand for stamped copies, in
order that they might be sent through the post, instead of
being famished in town, 'but that them temporary varia-
tions were easily adjusted, and that there was neither con-
fusion nor loss. I hays further consulted the proprietor of
the Illustrated London News—a gentleman of great expe-
rience with regard to the management of newspapers. He
has brought the circulation of that paper up to nearly
140,000 copies a week, and to is intimately acquainted
with the management and printing of newspapers. He gave
me his confident opinion, that no difficulty would
arise in the management of his newspaper, or in the
managementof any daily newspaper, from a mixed system
eletamped and =stamped espies. Another objection more
serious connected with the management of a newspaper has
been presented to me by various persons who, both orally and
is writing, have described a proposition which repealed the
esmrdson newspaper stamp as s most dangerous
to society. It is described to me as a measure which will
open the floodgates of sedition and blasphemy, which will
inundate the country with a licentious and immoral press,
which will undermine the foundations of society, and sow the
seeds of revolution broadcast over the land. Now those
expressions are not an exaggerated representation of opinions
which have been expressed to me from many =erten,
since this mean= has been in contemplation. I regret to
say that my right bon. friend the member for the Dal-
Trinity of Oxford la considered an accomplished advocate of
these wicked acd dangerous designs. Now, sir, I need not
my, that if her Majesty's government believed there was
any foundation for these views, or for any appreciable part
of these views, they would not propose the measure which I
am now submitting to the house. They
.have great con-
fidence in the stability of our institutions in the solidity of
our social system, in the loyalty and good disposition of the
people— (cheers)—and ihey do not believe that any in-
, mused facility of public discussion through the press will
lend to any such consequences u those which have
bees described. (Hear, hear.) But we are not
kb merely to conjecture or indirect tenoning with
I Visaed to the probable character of a cheap =stamped
rem There are already in existence a large class of publi-
ames which, not =staining news, are not subject to the
demp, are published at a very cheap rate, and circulated
most extensively through the country. But though these
wablications do not contain news. they would, if it were true
that the public of this country bad so insatiable an appetite
I fie immoral and licentious publications, be of a very differ-
ent character from that which they now an. I beg to call
the attention of the committee to some of these publica-
tions. There is the Illustrated News, published at 64.,
which circulates no less than 130,000 copies a week, and its
circulation, although it is published only ones a week, is
second only to that of the Times. It is well knows, and
I need not say that Its contents are perfeetly innocuous.
But there are other publications which are =stamped,
which are sold at ales' price, and which circulate very con
siderably among the poorer classes. One of these is a
periodical of which, I confess, I never heard until recently.
It is a peony weekly periodical called the Ludas Journal
I am essilbq informed that its circulation amounts to
610,9110 espies a week, which is egad to 26,520,000 per
sesseekexesteling by 11000,000 the edentate& of the rinse,
\although it is published only ones a week. Now, I have
mesmined some numbers of that penal, which somewhat
assemble' the Penny Magazine, which was so well known
elms years ago. It appears to me perfectly unexception-
able in point of morality. It may DO not of the most in-
structive character, it may be rather sensing than =true-
dee, but it does not at all =respond with this
hightfal pietas* of cheap periodicals that his
bees drown by the objectors. to a cheap press. There is
' ittellbse eshileation called the Painity Herald, which ci nu.
KANO a weak, or sliest 123 millions per anoint, the
of which appears to be similar. These facts. must
be eseeidered as showing that the spontaneous taste, of
tile
pest= deems of this country at the present mome wc, with
W le sheep =stamped publications, leads the tato po-
ke a ekes of journels wholly innocuous in their character,
sod quite free from all those dangerous stem enta whisk
len bees held up to war eye. Look at the r evens et the
There were some years ago, I am in formed, mop
Wee. six publications in London, one of &Ash um souse
Se lbw*, and there were other pubUcati• fns of a glom
*MOM a a Unsling description, the illustratlsis goy.
10110011§041 with the lettorprem. An inriuit7 was mute os
to these pstillealhas by a gentleman, • and he united me
that that aegis dims of publications is e•Lcwww. Thus wets
some five eels villa he collected iv,. yams age, no, ass
of width is MOW in existence,. mow, ham) Iv
will be nedlected by members or the house *oil
then was •highse slam of publicat' es sem rag 9.0.41N11
40 and the ffeliffeseebtelt enjoyed . • essrlisaible elsistelies
leme fur ren-VE1.4_....., which
~.. hr ,vs now owed to exist. It
ma Ibe evils smi with Pee/sot truth, that no immoral
Or u 11•11111111811 his • '.ong life or long enjoys an ex-
Webs diesaleffifth (Beer, brer.) Another objection to the
Peneeelebeerte that then would be one press for the
sish end .units* fee the P *or. Now, to a certain enlist,
tbst state of *he NW •CIOIII. 'f here are newspapers now 1
feetoftsfi • "ef eeeeedee Sibieraletion which are printed at a
site Mos_ elatisM fatly and weekly newspapers,
ligrilierar• eadiibffeerff taken in by the middle and
Vim. Two of these, nee called the News of the 7,171
es& uses weekly New. Those two newsp=tins:
the Isnot alsesinthaa after the limes. Their
:Zreeleb email Vet el any of the day pares. This
elfeigeella whisk they eejoy Is due le the
fee that *dr Ties le threepence instead stirs
The gnat reheats* that they slay in the newspaper
web" Le to be e'gribund eddy to e fast of their dwarfs
pin. "*IO "45 if this result should be the mu le a elt-
-11411 0•1•0* P. may be doubted whether then is say Mess
he IVA. it. If the taste of the poorer clines prevents
MHO et perusing and enjoying thanagnomen which'

at clan ; if a elan of Bowerman
for the workleg classes ; and if those
4 ueeful in their tendency ; it may
that they should circulate amens
I are not to assume that the class of
es addressed to the working people
.1 immoral or unsocial alteracterietice ;
nose ;terses who dames themselves to
, adulation, and to the Milhatem el sound
.e masses of the people,will hen Mud a field
and will be able to cesatesset any rais-
„anyone Or 11011i011$ opinions which may be einslated
through papers ofethat description. The present necessity
of Jamming • tax upon every copy of a local news-
paper has the effect of inflicting an injustice, and on tkis
subject I will take the liberty of reading an extract from a
published letter from the noble lord the member for Lynn.
[The right hon. gentleman then read the extract in ques-
tion, which was to the effect that • a•wspaper proprietor
who sold 1,000 copies which might go through the post, was
taxed to the amount of 41.35.44., and that it was cheaper for
him tosend them by private messengen • besides which,
the whole of his impression required to be messengers;
Now,
esatianed the right hon. gentlemen, under the arrange-
ment I propose, it will be optional with the publisher of
any seek local journal to stamp any portion of hie inn's-
mien i and whatever portion of his impression usataaped he
may wish to circulate by means of managers, be vat be at
liberty soto circulate. If, on the other hand, it is nave.
nient to kiss to stamp say portion of his impression for
transmission through the post it will be :competent for
him to do se. At the same time, having shown that the
publishers of heal journals will enjoy great facilities under
the proposed law I may be permitted to espress • doubt
whether any Renderable number of such new sewspapen
win spring inteexistence. No newspaper can obtain any
considerable attention which has not a large number of
advertisements. It is by advertisements that hogs, and
well eonducted newspapers are maintained. New small
local journals will sever be a preferable medium for adver-
Unmans, end they can never become so. The a per
with so existing heal circulation being in posse nof
the espied, and haviag the pretenses of the advertising
public, wand enter into competitioa with asst smaillocal
Newspaper which might be aMb d on the
most admviageous terse. I °oases ninths nswampn-
phobia which the right hen. gentleman the member for l&s-
-les:ester has shoaled its some of his speeches, seems to me
met on a very slender fsundation. Ido not expect that
ameemiderable number of fresh newspapers win be atilt-.
; but if nay demand fir any such newspapers exists,
the reality of thse demand will• be tested by the facil.itzig
areibliebing them if this cbangein the law takes plus.
k smother objection to the prepaid measure which has been
easadessed in another house wMali must have occurred to
my dgbe hon. predemeor in' at? office, as it bee y
warred to myself, namely, the Me of revenue, (Bear,
hear.), Now, if we bad at this time • surplus revenue and
if the expenditure of 'e country didnot greatly mined its
menu% the newspaper' stamp wouldi have a fair claims to
enter the list with other taxes, and those who ob;oot to it
might claims that it should have the precedence. Thet,
Yammer, le not the existhig state of the nuances, and if the
house should decide in favour of this massure, it will be my
duty to call ea them to provide for the deficiency which
will be occasioned, by some ether mode of Minion. (Bear,
nee.) The. Resent stamp duty on newspapers proclaim
rather more then 400,0001. • year, and frie estimated that
the repeal of the compulsory stamp wilt entail a loss of
about 200,00 M. • year. At the same time there are some
facts which may lead to the inference that, even after the
eompulsory stamp has been repealed, the newspapers
annum to print • considerable portion of their emulation I
ups stamped paper. I will, with the permission of the
Imes, state the facts with regard to the circulation of the
=hu=e newspaper. The circulation of the Times newspaper
emements to 59,000 per diem. Of these 33,000 are distributed
by news agents in London and 26,000 go into the country,
0 which about 20,200 go by railway train and about 5,800
'go by post. I am assured, on excellent authority, that
abeat three-fourths of the whole circulation of the TOON
ultimately passes through the poet, and most copies three
ee four times. The number of copies which are
seat by the post from the news agents alone
amousts to 5,800 • nay, yet I am assured that
ultimately at least three-fourths of the entire impression
of the Times posses through the post. I was further in-
formed by a deputation from the editors of provincial news-
papers, that about two-thirds of the existing newspaper' are
sent direct by post, and that part of the remaining th are
also ultimately transmitted through the poet. These facts lead
to the inference that the postage stamp is found very conve-
nient in the transmission of nswepapers,and that even if there
be no compulsory stamp, a large circulation of newspapers
through the post will continue. Moreover, if the alteration
of the law should lead to say large increase is the number
of newspapers, that increase would bring some addition to
the paper duty, which would in some degree compensate for
the loos. However, it is my duty to inform the house, that,
I according to the estimate made by:the Post-ofilce authorities,
Idle probable low of revenue cannot be taken at laa than about
200,0001. Such a less of us is no doubt at this mo-
ment an inconvenience. On the other band, the house
should boar in mind the reality that is presented to them,
namely, the receding from their unanimous resolution of
lest session, and passing some measure declaratory of the
existing law with regard to newspapers, and passing a mere
stringent measure than those which are now in force to coi-
-1 lest the newspaper stamp. I have now only to add that it
has been suggested to me that the plan would be rendered
[ more perfect if it included all sorts of printed matter, and
not merely periodical publications. That proposition in-
volves the question of a cheap book-post. At present there
is a book-post; that is to say a postage of sixpence
enables any book not weighing more than one
pound to be carried through the post. They are
charged now according to he different weights That
system has been establishea, and it is competent for the I
Lords of the Treasury to modify the existing system, and to ,
fix a lower scale than that which is now in force. How-
ever, her Majesty's government think that the question of
periodical publications stands by itself as to the transmis-
sion by the post, and other matters on different grounds
from books and pamphlets, and that the two questions
ought to be kept separate. I, however, fully admit the
importance of regulations respecting a cheap book postage ;
and, if it should meet with the approbation of the house, I
shall be ready to take that matter into consideration here-
after. I will only state that, according to the information
given to a committee that sat last session upon postage
by railway, the following appears to be the comparative
weight of the different classes of articles carried by the
pat: Ont of 100 different packets, letters formed only 13
per cent., books 2 per cent., newspapers 76 per cent., and
toys 9 per cent. Therefore newspapers now form the
largest portion of the weight of the packages sent by post,
and books form only 2 per cent. Having thus explained
this measure, I beg to move the following resolutions:—
" That it is expedient to amend the laws relating to the
stamp duties on newspapers, and to provide for the trans-
=Salon by post of printed periodical publications. That any
periodical publication, to be entitled to the privilege of
transmission and retransmisson by the post, shall be printed
on paper stamped for denoting the stamp duty imposed by
law on • newspaper, printed on the like number of sheen
or pieces of paper, and of the like dimensions with respect
to the superfsies of the letterpress thereof. That printed
newspaper (,Britisb, colonial, or foreign) shell be tram-
mined by the post between places in the Caited Kingdom
and her Majesty's colonies or foreign count=ies, or between
any ports or places beyond the sea (whether through the
United Kingdom or sot), either free of pelage or subjoin to
such rates of postage, not exceeding ma pence for sash
newspaper, irrespective .of any charge foe foreign postage,
as the commissional of the Treasury, re her Majesty's Post-
master• General with their consent, shall from UM* to time
think fit."
Mr. GLADSTONE hai listene A with great pleasure to
the able and candid abetment of. his. right ken, friend the
Charlet:ler of the Exchequer. Na quite agreed with the
right hes. gentleman in the opinion whisk be seemed to
entertain, namely, that it wocld be better to hove the bill
prime, and that.sana brief opposhanity should be given to
hoirmembers for oossideraties before they were called upon
, either to enter into any full discussion of the measure itself,
or to infinite any comparison between the merits of the bill
need of the plan which he (Mr. Gladstone) had also had the
honour to introduce. Parental affection had
the
perhaps, an unfair judge, bat he could not deity
that he regretted the changes which his right
honourable friend bad introduced. At the same time,
in considering a measure of this kind he thought that
kis duty and the duty of the house would be to ask them-
selves—not whethe the measure proposed was the one that
hem-
was in all respects most conformable to their own wishes
oe predilections or even whether it was the one that was
absolutely the predilection,
whether it went so far in obviating
existing diMeulties, and was likely to introduce such mate-
rial and substantial improvements into the law as would
make it worth their while is promote its adoption by the
legislature i That was the spirit in which be should ap-
proach the consideration et the bill when it should have
been lad on the t-ble. (Hear, hear.) There were only
one or two points upon which he now wished to say a word.
He had been very glad to bear his right hon. friend sig-
nify towards the close of his speech that he was not in-
disposed to give a favourable coasideration to the proposal
to introduce into the bill, not by way of qualification or
alteration, but simply as an extension, a provision which
would establish a low and moderate tariff for printed
matter generally. (Cheers.) That he thought would be •
most valuable additioa to the bill. He could not conceive
any reason why newspapers periodically published within
31 days should have po.tal privileges which Were denied to
the feebler means and resources of those who might occa-
sionally, and under particular circumstances, wish to give
to the public the benefit of their thoughts? (Hear,
hear.) And with respect to one very serious portion of
the subject, namely, the effect which the measure would have
upon the revenue, he would beg to remind his right
hon. friend that the introduction of a low and moderate
tariff for ell printed matter would materially tend towards
iadentnifying him for the loss which be was likely to w-
ain. (Hear, hear.) He would not say that the peasant
tariff for transmitting books by post was et ell immoderate.
when they came to apply it to what might fairly be
sailed books—to works of a considerable bulk, such as the
Qiewlerly or the Edesbergh, which approached the weight
of a pound ; bat he would remind his right hon. friend that,
SO fir as pamphlets were concerned, it was nearly a pro's!:
Wary duty. (Hear, hurl Indeed, persons who wished to
circulate publicatins of that description often found it better
to send thi m Dv the ordinary letter post than to avail them,
selves of the took post. His right hon. friend's definieloa
of periodibsk would appear to render it nowesery for the

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The next point he (Mr. Gladstone) adverted iiii
with a .
unwillingness, because he confessed that apron hii„,.
whtheattesitsta::t'tolilubsee,fiLlet,saolto2l.l a,
be entirely differed from his right hoe. friend!' t -1"" a
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time, if a tradeemas cantyciinieuwdenhi,u.ytehilifiis;aaitdttcirhwahereduimandulariums:::::Lytedowash6.7:iihlmaa:::_..t..rt: t:j•-•''
hoc. gentleman proposed that the use of the inee •-•
stihitela:pumriengpwasponagba opaualrlzaidat
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security. It was quite true that at the pleigiint 6
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of Inland Revenue he might obtain the '''''''',ii, 1:.
although if the Board were to proceed ainig ~2 o
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to
be entitled to go into a court of justice and to ispani-Z,
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seditious libel. Undoubtedly that was a practice air-,', l•
law as it new stood ; but it was one of the • riiiil'inalii— T.
aad absurdities which had induced the hones 1 t e.,-;
to do, what it was not very apt to do, and chit ;nu- •- •
tiho right
and
groundspo
ihaptor, a
rt,nr
private
vcga:thinoel gentleman
ere:
si.
this practice; but he (Mr. Gladstone) would ask, 'Whose
was possible for the boon permanently to semi they;
that security ought to be given were quite intehigibk, -1,
was urged that i uch securities were seessury for the
werefbawecelenishtoliosiotdnthohe:spoveelectitelyen:mtietasns
to penile: a' tistorie,iies",,di
Gladstone) must conies@ that be was sot of that eit„,,- •
fact,
ismetelutoriliedefe
Rathiefte:larwliase,
wes(Chieteta)t pTrihvaese
sehntniii,pie
ibe given for the retention c 4 securities as a media* d
postal tranarnasiee ? (Chattel If the protection stay
ta
anxious p n b 1 i c
to
q met,
io,nao tit
utoame
and m b es
oriel
1 isinepdriavnated
less taptiumete.d
cißuuet,,wihone re.
wee valuable ? Why, within the particular when rim
each.man resided. (Hear, hear.) But if, for iastuesui,
told • clergyman in a town in Devonshire that h deli
not by libeled in Northumberland, where he had as su.
mellow, and where it was not important thee his thank r •.:
theiril Ib'
In
baronetohse ui
Isedlaoa. securities
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rational te defended, boat
wee°ls importanceail
basis,
a sibt quite 9 nt, cleariagnh Id
I'e
thatml
that
libelled
ha': they voilaarit'h l.
,
Ito which he (Mr. Gladatose) came was the emotion ofea.
right. He did not wonder that his right hcs. friend haw,
Winded in hie scheme any provision upon that subject. It
wee, indeedoesabject upon which it would he dank*
the government to devise any plan. At the same WC,*
proprietors of newspapers in matey eases entertained igen
minty that the provision of the law with respect to he
protection of literary property should endow, wales
Mom and that it should receive an extension was toes*
Itinerary property in newspapers. Undoubteglyo. le •
whit was strictly speaking called newe-so far oaths sia
massaanicatiou of facts, which must genera* be sow
peened within • wry brief space, and might beagle'
in any language-ea far as mere news was cozens& lie
(Mr. Gladstone) did not know how they were tolerant.
any farther provisions into the law as it at meant mei.
But he understood from persons who ought to be well a
formed, that their great anxiety was not so much Waal.
tection of their news-strictly so called-as for the prawn
of what might fairly be called their literary compookins-
for example, their leading articles aad the Callinaltilli
of their foreign correspondents. (Hear, hear.) Nov he •
(Mr. Gladstone) was anxious that either in the bill of the
right hon. baronet, or in some other effective form An
protection should be supplied. (Hear, hear.) With to. ,'
spent to the subject generally, he might remark that the
question was not whether they would have a cheap pm,a , •
whether they would not. They had already got a cheapens, , ;
It was stated that one single periodical published 420,001
copies weekly; and that another publish.* 240,04. Hem
then, were 33,000,000 copies published yearly of only tan i
of the periodicals which. came out week by week in **S. 6
tropolis. How many more similar ones there might tele a
weld not say but they had certainly already get a due
prose. It was true that they had it not throughout the a
country ; hut in the great centres of population, tad eye':
daily in London, it was there. If they might speak of ,
being inundated with cheap literature they might 10 e
'my that London was already inundated by these wacky r
publications. (Hear, hear.) The question, then, wee on e
whether it was expedient to have a cheap press, bitter .'
their, when they had got it, they would give its or i,
prietors the means of supplying to the people intellome
onfopyoultislad
icnevreonmtaa,nincews h? ich
oitheaery wheerear.lace
,clleheeplyquinlitueroesein:.
or whether they would drive those proprietors to teen r
petty and paltry, and compel them to cram their wean
whether they would preclude them from inserting des i;
which formed the largest materials for conarierstioa lei i,
reflection, or whether they would allow them to catenate r
fair competition with other public prints, instead of Wig '
confined to those inferior materials to which it was %edict '
of the present law to restrict them ? (Hear, bear.) Fa '
his own part he was determined to do all that he email
set free the press of this country, so far as regarded pat
events and news of every description ; and to apply to •
press those principles of free commerce which had almq
been applied with such immense 'dyeing. to the gaud
trade of the kingdom. (Chew.) At the same tics ho *
fully admitted that so far as literary property went, re
..
principle of protection was fair and ..`wt. lie CU not pre
pared to say in what form that protection could baste 1
given, but he did venture to exp:ess a hope that the nib
hon. baronet would not be indisposed to consider ay nate . •
able and fair proposition with regard to copyright ;so the
while establishing the freedom et the press, they night act •
run any risk of breaking down that system under idiot .
the highest talent of the country, had been advantned sip georalt
1
devoted to supplying the public with intelligence a
discussion of passing events. (Cheers.) lie should raged
the destruction of that system lar a great public mazes, •
but he did not think that that destruction would at ell 10.-
low as the necessary or the natural consequeace of hiseit/h
hoe. friend's proposed measure. (Cheers) Mr. Gleans
concluded by expressing a conSdent hope that toe billrho
it should be presented to the house, would, on the etas ••
meet with a favourable reeption. (Chem)
Sir F. BARING said that one point had been pen
over in a very uncomfortable manse ley the right be
baronet, and is a manse:, yet mote uncomfer!able bsyr ,
'Oxrig ford.hon. gear tle
lie referred ha
th the financialthe operation of S
' measure. (Hear, hear.) Mr. Rowland Hill bid OW'
opinion that the utmost: that would be obtained fro $ 4
ht man t member for I, nivoll .
postage of newspapers mould be only 130,0001 perr ti
i
and even the Chancellor of the Excheq er
u had man
probable loss of nearly. a quarter of • million. The tO,
hon. gentleman whc. had last spoken had ersed.
opinion that the Chancellor of the Exchequer rad
been able to replace part of the loss by careriaf
tb". •
a cheap rate ; but he (Sir 3. Baring) wwasßina ati.!
finances of the country were in such a state that neje!'
not be able to aer;sect any means of raising mote!, en
the newspaper stamp were removed or not. Odelz.r . 3
The right hon.. gentleman had brought fumed thos
sure at a moat unfit time. (Cheers.) Be tSit T. 2661
tier, o
Lad frequently heard Chancellor of the Eacheq
when there was a surplus, remind hoe. memben ire
was better mot to bring forward measutee foe thea_n,,
sion of taxation until they bad heard the ,
statement. Surely it was more incumbeet ti
them than ever to take that cows. on
nthe Pla
Chancellor of the E 0,7 occasion, when it was obvious that there
dispose cf. (Cheen.) The Ch wee o tatrt, „•
well knew that every tax was an evil, and that ao* .! .„„
so easy as to make oat a strong CCM against any Wit _
ever, if it was to be coasidered bl itself. The prefect; ..e
was to compare the tax complained of with other re .
raising money; and, if the right hon. gentlemen ''xi
to press forward the measure before the budget, te(
Baring) 'build, if be stood in a minority of one, DP?' -
feather progress. (Cheers.) 'ili 7
Mr. GIBSON said the right hon. Unmet whets'
spoken had hardly put this mattes an its proper to` ,„‘
It was not properly a fiscal question at all ; eadtbs!'
eel_
to be told that this °Gantry was suable to dealwi
that had led to a vezatieus system of prosecutions,:
difficulties of a serious character, bemuse it ino
involved 200,0001. Of revenue ? (Hear, bear) 11e, •, .1
Gibson) regretted that the Chancellor of the Fir' at_ . ',
had left out of his plan a provision that
is Mr. Gladstone'', and that would here ..
e
fat to compensate, if not to more te ~,,,,
the anticipated less of revenue, name()', the proPrtl ,
•
bar ounces of any printed matter for Id. He aq:
the right hon. gentleman would still consider the
trl, ..
el inserting this proposal in hisbill. It we m
fox
oos
the Times,which weighed sixnnitue ounces, should ,fV.
be permitted to be transmitted and re-tran
whole term of their natural lives, and that they sr; .
be allowed to send a pamphlet of four ounce fel'lt
gm mice. (Hear, hear.) It had been broughtr,
on abjection to this measure that it might lead t 0:,
lades of a large quantity of improper publications .t_
wmali venture to say that for every bad ote a_,2,:,
geed am would be sent. There would be, fa.!_.',7,,,
pat number of religious tracts, for, th5161:106...,
anhakto bed at present no means of distributleg lir,
Iliad publications. (Hear, hear.) With
_r_ell,t"
Meteation of security, he quite agreed with Dit,:un,
sad the Chancellor of the Ruh equer had heal r
existing law with correctness. The present Isetriu*,
_
Manch and state, published at a price leasari
or emetaining less than an area of 714 square _,
r was also to make a declaration thstr r_
not to newspapers only but to all •
Vtatter payment of all his just debts. Tha
.pe
bllle It was true, was obsolete; bet surely ti_Ti,
-
el for a registration sufficient for entente _a
,E;;;Tery printer was obliged to put bis nem_ "'„,
lon everything that he printed, asto.. also to kry_,;
siles•r....dest argument for its repeal. The 1,11$1.1;i,
everybody that employed him,
oases *gir.
gliz°ll to produce at the order M jute.*

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the swami rule. I •
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any sub esseplimk ' Wba -Mir all, lf her Xlieeter tome' Medea is lbw and limited. With regard to sas r, that Vet fir society. We
..pint the able sal Wiest earl wbfeb le sea- ' 1"1"1"111 9f °ls so, unp ; but isaemosb al on Wee sesdlisss are reversed—tho publicity ft to, newspapers erhick may be
is la Imo& Ilegbes de ? Aild bore meat lle reefmt to the and practically, it may be Mid to, be will be tainted with say in
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ilidisellisizeasana them . moms ,to Imo edgrbut and. at all smote, those v
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