The Express.
London, England, 1864-04-20 00:00:00

THE DEPARTURE OF GARIBALDL

The Earl of CLARENDON—There is a matter on which 1,
I wish to say a few words to your lordships. I think it
due not only to the Emperor of the French, but to her
Majesty's government, and I take the liberty of adding, to
myself also, that there should be so mithoderstauding on
the subject. I allude to rumours current this morning, sad
embodied in an article which appeared in a widely-circa-
lated paper, from which I should like to reed a sheet •Ist-
tract. noble lord—What paper!] It is the Mmmico
&or, but a similar article appeared in the Daily Nears.
The article states, with respect to the departure of Gari-
baldi, that the story of his leaving London was io every-
body's mouth, and it then proceeds—" People asserted that
a pressure bad been brought to bear by the French govern-
meet, sod that the English ministry, dominoes to remove all
mosso( ill-feeling from the mind of as ally, bad made adirect
and personal appeal to Garibaldi to indace him tenet short
his visit sod leave the country. Any one who has time, or
inclination to read through the Paris oorreepoodences of
some foreign journals will find it often weeded of late that ,
during Lord Claroodoe's mission to Perim certain rooms-
miens were slaked of the English government, in the name of
good feeling and cordial alliance. The rumour pervading
Loudon yesterday asserted that one of thee. emicessious wee
to be made by inducing Garibaldi to cut short his visit, and
leave England. We should be reluctant indeed to Le-
lieu that any part of such a statement could be tree.
Nothing could be more igsobls on the part of either govern-
ment than such conduct as this report imputes. That the
French government could have bad the weakness. the want
of dignity, the want of common eslfrespect to make such
a request of our representative in Paris seems almost to
surpass belief. That our government could have roods-
'molded to listen to such a request, and to act upon it, ought
to appear fu leas worthy of credit. Yet we have heard the
statement vouched for as well founded by those whose
authority removes any report nocticieed by them
quite out of the range of the common everyday canard."
Now, my lords, if there was any foundation for this report
these strictures would be well deserved, but I one enure
your lordships that neither directly nor indirectly from the
Emperor or from any member of his Majesty's government,
'smarty allusion made to me with respect to the cause of
Garibaldi's arrival io this country or the probable time of
his departure. (Hsu, beer.) I will not say that the sub-
ject vu not alluded to. It was alluded to by myself in
describing the entry of Garibaldi, which I Lad ...Bosomed in
London, and the esithusiriani with which he was received,
and I said that the groped of that ruthenium was that
Garibaldi bad risen from the ranks of the people by the great
sends be bad rendered to his country, and bora he was
brave and beca he bo use
Cheen.) I also said
that I was convinced he would find • similar reception in
whatever part of England he might visit. (Hear, hear.)
No one can be better aware than I am of the
inconveoience of alluding to any communications
with which I was honoured by the Emperor of
the French, but I think I am not betraying
any confidence when I Mete that the Emperor said be fully
understood, and entirely believed how completely such
qualities as those powered by Garibaldi went straight to
the English heart sod commanded their approbation.
(Hear, bear.) But no inquiry was ever made on the subject,
and the Emperor is far too well acquainted with our mull.
ration and the power of public opinion here to have made
any proposal of the hied alluded to. (Hear, beer.) I had
not even beard the rumour that Garibaldi was going to
leave this country till the middle of to-day. and the French
government have no more to do with it then the English
government have. (Cheers.) Before I sit down perhaps I
10• V allude to mother matter with respect to ooeceesions,
. .

and I allude to it beatuth I think it iatufaetory to roar
lordship.* and the canary to know that no imoonesioce bare
either been made, or 'eked, of the Emperor of the French or
of the lioglub govarensent, the one from the other. (Hear.)
I found when I was in Paris that than existed on the part
of the Emperor and his government the same desire that
there Clint. on the part of her Majesty's government that
on all important questions as they arise there should be a
cordial understanding as far as practicable between the two
governments and the two countries. without compromising
the dignity or the independence of either. (Cheers.)
LAND SECURITIES COMPANY BILL

After some thematekm the above ►ill ems real • stecind
time.

THE PUNISHMENT OP RAPE BILL.

On the report of an amendment agreed to on a fernier
evening, making the punishment of whipping on conviction
of the crime of committing rope compulsory,
The Earl of CARNAR VON moved the insertion of •
clause providing that when any paten should be convicted
of an aensult with bites% to commit rape the punisbmeet of
whippirg should be discretionary. He was sorry the amend-
ment ,nuking the punishment compulsory is certain cases
was agreed to the other evening, for he would rather have
the matter of punishment to the entire discretion of the
judges-
The Earl of HARROWBY said the crime of committing
rape was such a disgusting one, that, although it might
generally be right to leave the amount of punishment to
the discretion of the judge, he would is owes of rape make
whipping compulsory.
The LORD CHANCELLOR had thought it right to
obtain further information, with • view of seeing whether
making the punishment of whipping compulsory would not
make the law more uncertain and augment the digitalisa-
tion of juries to convict. In the veer 1112 there were 135
eases of accusatiess of rape sent for trial, and of t►ose
SO were acquitted. That showed the iediepeeitioe of juries
to einvict for this crime. He had also coomulted the judges,
and the Gnawers which he bad obtained from them staled
that they were in favour of snrevieg the punishment of
whipping to the existieg law, but of leaving its iethetisio
to their discretion. He himself would prefer leaving the
punish meet disereticesry in all mere.
Lord WODEHOUSE thought that on the whole ►heir
lordships would do wisely sot to make ►he punishment
compulsory. The other night he thought it would he de-
sirable to make • distinction in the punishment for the
committal of the crime and the attempt to commit, but new
he wan of opinion that it would be safer to leave the
punishment in both cues to the discretion of the judges.
After a few words is explanation from Earl Gary and
the lid of CARSARtOIO,
The Earl of DERBY said the amendment, making the
punishment compulsory is cases of conviction of the crime
of rape, was agreed to in committee on the bill, and the
question before the house was at amendment of the clause
leaving the punishment discretionary in cases of attempt'
to commit ran.. . _

Lord woLiEnorsE would rather sea the clans* re-
stored to its former position, than that the word "shall"
should stand in the place of rosy."
Earl ti REY suggested that the hones should now agree to
the addition to the clause, and that on the next stage of the
bill the whole clause should be again consideted. with •
view of making the punishment of whipping ducretionary
and not compulsory iu all cams.
The amendment was thee speed to. and the report of the
former amendment wee received and also agreed to.
IMPROVEMENT OF LAND ACT (1864.)
After • few words from Lord }MUMMA and the Marquis
of RATE, approving of the principle of the
The above bill was read a second time.

The Union Relief Aid Acta Continuation Bill, sad the
lAnd Drainage (Provisional Orders) Bill Plumed through
committee.

Thair lordships adjoarooi at 7 o'clock.

HOUSE OF COMMON/3.—ThIsDAY, Amu. 19.
The Stsazza took his mat at 4 o'clock.
_ NEW MEMBER.

Sir THOMAS Baresos—tooCtir7;deir sod kir rod for De-
vises, la die toes of Mr. drirliagtoo, sow Lord Sidarodarr