The Express.
London, England, 1852-11-24 00:00:00

they may Mt, may they set be dimpelMil. fee whatever
elenselle ale added to the elesposee and character of
ibe hem% add to its charmer, and Melioration in the
arand will costribulle Mel satda the latellectsal
peuleasessee of the Seine at Cam eos. (Hem,
t hem I appeal, I upped te the sesames
gad the youthful, and 1 ask them te game sow, when the
ale in the threshold of the senate, net to Memo, the took
er the 'Mims of exhausted Mimi and Maine ',knee.
=he right boa. it edemas eamieded. emidialeal sheers, by
the
s% followi emeadment:-.."Thet this hems at-
with ea , that the delegnees of moil-
esessimed by meat legislation ham Maly multi-
belled le Mime the sedition and harem. tho 'Morn of
the midelg tows; sad that unrestddei esagetition
hawing hem adept.d. Am dee deliberateness*, priaciple
of ewe eilninerelal system. this house is of opisien that it is
, the nat. ef the government unreservedly te Where to that
policy them rename of financial and admiaistrative
reform Melt, under the circumstances of the meatry, they
may deem it their duty to introduce."
Mr. BRIGHT roes and said—Sir, Him Illetesi with
that interest in which the whole how bee Jelned te the
speech of the right hon. gentleman, and I aiyalasill whoa
he ruse that he would have made at least some attempt to
answer the speech of my bon. friend. I meet conceive
that the right hon. genilemaa lost sight uninteatiosally of
the point of my bon. friend's speech, sad of the real ques-
tion now in dispute between the governmeat and my hon.
friend. (llear.) If the right hon. gentleman avoided
entering into the quanta which has been introdueed to the
notice of the house, I may at least be justified, I
think, in avoiding a large portion of his speech.
I shall, therefore, in the first place, call attention
to only one or two points which the right boo. gentleman
arged. The right boa. gentleman waited to make it ap-
' pear that he was now • member of a free trade Rowe-
meat, and that he acted with the free trade party, and yet
repeatedly during his speech, and within six sentences of
its conclusion, he spoke of the whole body of his supporters
as still the protemennst party. (Hear, hear.) The right
hon. gentleman said, moreover, that be took no steps in
the direction of unsettling the settlement of 1840 aim that
period. The right hon. geutlentan seemed to forget that
in lain he voted in favour of this resolution, "That the
whole house niche itself into committee of the whole
house, for the purpose of taking into comidentioe the sets
relating to the importation of foreign corn." ((heers.)
This was a motion made by a gentleman who was not now •
member of the house, bat one whom the right bon. gentle-
man seduced from this aide of the house by speaking of
what he would du for the farmers —I allude to the late
member for Gloucestershire (Mr. O. Berkeley). More than
that, the right hon. patinnan endeavoured to persuade the
house that with regard to sugar and shipping be was as
blameless as on the rpsestion of corn, sail that if any one
was culpable at all in regard to sugar eo one wee more so
than the head of the late government. But the right boa.
gentleman seemed to forget or to tonged frau the house
that the right hon. gentleman the Secretary for the Colonies
incessantly endeavoured to unsettle the first settlement of
that question in 1847. The second settlement took place
after the long committee on the colonial question, and the
Chancellor of the Exchequer mewed to forget that another
colleague of his whom I see opposite, the ngh Oen. gentle-
man, the governor of oar Indian possessions. (Laughter.)
I speak advisedly when I say governor, for I recollect that
a predecessor of the right hon. gentleman admitted, in
answer to • question et mice in ememittee, that he was
the ruler of India, and that he wee responsibei for its
government. (Hear, hear.) The right Ikea. gentleman
(Mr. Harries) gave notice of a motion respecting the nevi-
plies laws ; he felt, I believe, the insecurity of his psi-
Me, and sexesitated by the successive meets of the hon.
member for Stoke (lir. Ricardo) he was induced to
bring forward his motion ; but he was so discos-
, carted at the reception it met with that he did
not ask to p to • division. (Hear, hear.) The
right hon. gentleman' following in his usual adroit
manner, fined spa the conduct of the sable lord sad two
or three of his colleagues, in order to diesel attention
from the real subject at issue. I am afraid that the noble
lord has been too long in this house to be perfectly con.
*Gust. (Laughter.) But I &Atli show the Mee that,
however bed may have been the course of the noble lord,
that of the right hon. gentleman wee not a bit better.
(Hear, hear.) But I will not enter upon these questions
now, for that before the lime is too important in the eyes
of the country te be dimmed of by recriminations between
the members of the Ms and the present government.
(Hear, hear.) My hes. (Mad mold with perfect
honesty say that he mid sot be actuated by
faotioes motives in belogis this se** forward, for he
brought it forward 1h pesepsami=ably no public
man suffered more la hie mil prospect*
thee my hon. kissed enidamb by his undeviating advocacy
of what to him at lasetemeil • great endowed question.
beer.) My MA friend is therefore precisely the
am to M Mid tosellea forward, and every person meet
admit dialltlo harmseises in the position he ammo to-
efillA, whoa miessarel by the position which be always m-
ewled on din pieties. (Hear, hear.) The government
wens asked lest Febnesty and March what course they
trentet to pursue, end the right honourable gentle-
Seen said he meant te appeal to the country. Well,
die seemly, bas ban appealed to, and the right hon.
psilemen has gives en is understand that he
Mali seat cultivate the preesedeelet lice of business.
ia Iffee gantry. They did not de se to mach extant in the
but they did so most seeklimeM lat the counties
ieidneheis home wield give me len I meld obeli
MO
m them
mei Med M wady a single
the mealy le whisk the then.did a =Men* en pretestimdhe
she. (Hear, bear.) Therss shine bet on the home are
submitted for our stneidegallina. ad Miles I am ready to
admit that that of the deg hes. enigma is far ia ad-1
ems et my proposition whisk he come made Me the Meal
(riled
pert of has feemer political carom that M
lavelms semething which, Mete it maybe lnaer
makes to the may oppesite, eentake dot Is pew
steely Ise the Mowed et the isountry, sad spa Mils I it
ra;the country osmosis we IMO se a assldos.
ose the ewe neeleshas to be pissed being theameley
at the salsas eisedem—daa of my he, Maid "bah diabeee
the 'demote
_tehish the meatry hie &mind beet free
trade. bet &deem emmilft of the mason of MA
whisk established the bee iesien of fladall SIM that
it was a " jest. cad " aid awnthe
right bee. gentfames-11 the whale esentey,
and MIK wire polled wish rasped M that penieelar pu-
rge ef the meld them ad be as easensee• and
menriakeing erojedgy elite 1 demeghset the
whets seemery. in Amer aftheimehdisa shay him freed?
Dem the bea. plialllala *hilt thie *elm. member
for whe seaseded the edam'. wadi di Dr
Mat free weds beesegh. mdse. be sidled OM dm Ad of
ISM was a jest. sad lisasibid mmanwe. (Hoar,
ham) The w
jestleaM of ISIS weed *lies lid it was
a who, jest, and bemediel meeeram Is IlMes nay member
whe voted he that WU la 1144, the amble bed lite member
ter Timm% or say odor, who did set believe that under
all Oho sheemesseme the swear was a wall, jest, and
beeadeld eesemee.righeeer2, bear.) And if be had any
delible them, le after the experiem of the last
pus Mt Ise have any Mkt at pretest
T parliament of 1847 same to
SIND aamtlasism la the parliament of lied,
aid Monte Wilda allielM dile mistime it resieled the
meow dad liss, Tim beselleial measere. Aad
Mgr the peellement of ISM ailed together under a pro-
eidlonise proms isat—ter pmesetiemet they were whoa

they wean die headaitonesenr age sow—
(beer bear)— s this poems assing. matel by the
right. boa. geadeies MINA MI boiled that the ink
'fear gems lias ban bowelidel to the inn
balk of tbe dines ef tbe oininy. (Neer. beer.)
Sew penlisani is galas te pis Ilesi en-
dings the wand= ekes-ir en man
e& I sheold hen thagrabt that
Si boa. Mead volifst 16 yews babes theseesistailseder
gene tree wade "Min fa padlansit should he is yams
to draw ap in twee Wt wedge. sal ass ewe lir Ind
hem the mew of hoe tugs. (Reard:arvit Sone dens
sey. I spat Mb, of whet is geld ia Oat sew
lenses on mask lbo sine, sad k Is ady a &we
gest warir WZLIII: *sly • Owen about des weeds
to be eleyind. 11/ are win essealsed. it dime as
to be andisseil awl se he whey sorely the wain
▪ rassemaidges et the lasi deniel Mead of tbo
OYasaaOeshguld ba ia peglignoe *lbis of Ile
of met Sweatier. pm, kir.) BO *a
wards en est the ewe ; the penglyles ere set the sem
the ears', this latnat, the while niter is sot the Mao
sad I will aim Ms bens when they differ. The min
ties of say hes. ling lesablisise • priselpie. gad Os
right his. wain wavy • dr. Thu czarldie
fin train bedew Ibe when neatly god the
sad says that owt meioses nut anise as apillon
ion sad mil lb. alba Imes le WWI In
non to earlia Wailes te be sigh Se aids labials
ft egwesented he way some wine peffiggermt
leilwesd Si give. (Hear. beat.) The debt him
meet set suppose that the buss. is so eastalleidysiwyle be
to think that be. peahen Wash be sea omen. Igisaa
to be sibilylewsted an this agendas. Sea own
sits. who bweind so mash, owyedease ar the styli bis.
my Ina kita—Qambwe)—lat wa mast
atillrithoug stlyandeas asi mildews. (Met. been)
Sit y an wise poet est we nail*
what ige eses
aid es these blsai
ashes admit et this hewn Mark
bear.) The nlybs hew. sweisies spoke et the miegelly .1
the aehle kid► brat the right lea. paamg has awiesley I
Sow Ili he and his party eseini the fenesseaot Os I
sabanlif * mettle the sat of lfle. sad that day lied
to pat dew the eissannwe ampinigis at the femme. es
the eggesilas et the Mims was the salvia iavolvedi
the is lime a emsdent MIAS le sanitise et die
I Wea• gene lagenesteniumat of Wt Ws amber
n tbi. asegesews is the an Men. buss,)
Why, de wan genial tbe splodges whin they =Mb by
deans all net the say beton the linen—do we aid
realise' di degalMigas to the Bad ef Dail—de we NM
sesellsol mini Niko with whisk the in*
("Hair,
woe nit bait to their tow= sad eseades f
hene." sad "Mite.) I was arm one mewed Ia say Ili
Om Was I wed medial the newer ot the eight boa pr
dolma to the depolatisa that sane to see bin. hewn
Ins et this selesetbet I defy WI or .sea 60 lama Is min
bead ea tea ilk, (" am bar " sod isdeekos.)
debt hsasagable yeademegi mkt so delhad hissed: lw
be »tenni die Nadia Si Simi Peel la UK
Win eggs geolge a passim aim scabs
hear. to )
Dili
ems Wasp Mama Os •irs. (ism
A tool. liaka dm
.1.
.15 I Ills =ratlntie hew.
rdid Id Yea maim la
eviestbsiiiirldemTh rad desif the Beiglit
ergastiatisa —(boor, ban)—ad that I vas eidehobS
analay bin sad theta le ftles the
gorselleve Mt
the onawy libr OW ea
It I* PARIS tad id Obit whim be um heel
=fib. the dui pagesillea that weld been haw lid
in Yon wealibase bees a menthe the
scion sN yensigely rat eintiew which di tame sew
beige Ow imam boob Os sin oral. (Chit,.) The

EXPRESS, WEDNESDAY

Other presidents sleeted by the II& hem. gemdeneno more
et the tame character. (Hear, bear.) The right
1111M.gentismna and his party constaatly eadeaveared to
NNW Kagpse. either that theorem law was greeted to the
Whale le that. for certain heavy special
bandann NW& hues before the curs law, er that,
having the privates of Ilto otos law, parliament thought it
right to impose ealbspesiel Wraiths duties the exist-
eta se that kw. Ineseds, for whom nothing warn
$llBl. N• bswallow,seised upon this at
the ha me IhA Nom of their cuirass. But the
right has. potions& new *freed a fact, figure, or quota-
tion to prove the statism* which he made. (Hear, bear.)
Ido not recollect ever having found in this debate see
@thee word that led to the conclusion that the corn
law was then granted to the landowners to compensate
them for any burdens that they bore. (Hear, hear.) 1
have sever heard since even of any Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer imposing any tax upon the landed portion of the
community fur the burdens they had to endure, or that
the landed interest was able to bear all their share
of the taxation because they had the protection of the
corn lama (Hear, hear.) Now, with regard to that point,
I will Just for • moment lay two or three figures before the
how, met, however, that I wish to trouble them wish any
lengthesed statistics on this occasion, fur we have got far
beyond the statistics of this question, except those of the
division which the house is to come to at the close of the
present discussion. (Hear, hear.) Well, then, from 1801
to 1815, a period when this country was fighting
against French principles, the taxes imposed—l take m
figures from the "Pavers of the Nation," the work
et my friend—were thirteen millions and a half;
but it is not to be seen at all from any
records that we have that any of these taxes were especially
laid upon land. (Hear, hear.) The Customs duties were
7,301,0001., the Excire 10,702,0004., and stamps 104,0001,
which included the Probate and Legacy Duty, which ago
tainly was not • duty upon land or real property. The
other taxes 11111102111t1d to 11,751,0001., including the Inman
Tax and the Pcrit•office , reaching to 608,0001,1. a.
log • total of 31,638,0001. Coming down to 1810 I ace bet
far thew taxes were repealed, and 1 find that
Customs there were 62,0001. repealed. Eldest
2,863.0001. and of other taxes, 14,681,0001., maks/
a total of 17,646,0001. Now no man coo show me free
thole aeeounts—and I can go more into detail if it is nem-
. .

eery—that any single to was laid urn haler l
oe that any single tax was taken of goy otherirme.ll2 sh
British industry or class of the commuaity but that of t
but if he examine them properly, he will find that all les
tercets were included in the imposition of these tole, egg
that none were excluded from the benefits which may lirme
resulted from the repealing of taxation. (Hear.) To a
certain extent all were gainers, and none were excluded.
I come next to the question of the poor rate, which
the right bon. gentleman the Chancellor of the Exchequer
has referred to, and I find that from 1812 to 1813-the
average poor rate of the year, calculated by the two pre-
soils{ years, was 8,688,0001.; whereas in 1843 and 1844
the average poor rate was only 6,878,0001.; so that, in
point of fact, in 1843 and 1844 the average poor rates of
this country were less by 1,810,0001. than they were is
1812.1813. (Hear, hear.) And then, if we take also the
enormous increase in property, and the value of land, aid
the accumulation of railways, we shall find that tho poor
rates are an insignificant burden upon land. (Hear, hear.)
la fact, they are not half the burden on the landowner w
the farmer that they were in 1812-1813. (Hear, hear.)
With regard to the Legacy and Probate Duty, I
the right hon. gentleman, the Chancellor of the Er=
riser, is sot here, but I see the Secretary for the Hese
Department in his place, and no doubt he is fully cereisant
of the changes which be proposes t i make with regard le
the Legacy and Probate Duty. I find that it has hese
charged since 1797 upon more than 1,339,000,0001. of per-
sonal property, whereas the whole of the land that is free-
hold land, which is the character of most of •the land in this
country, has been entirely free teem this charge. (Hear.)
Probate and Lego" Eluty during,the yodel up to 1815,
that is 49 years, was upwards or seme•ymee
sterling, and bear in mind that when that camera was int
brought in Mr. Pitt intended that it shield aver all pre.
perty—(bear, hear)—hut the great lineman in this hoses
at the time bad sufficient strength and Mimes* to induce
the hose to reject that portion of the measure which is.
laced to real property. (Hear hear.) But I will not go
into further statistics upon that branch of the question;
suffice it to say that if tiers was no pretence of the nature
I have suggested fur the corn laws is 1816, there has begs
none since, nor is there any at the moment at which I am
speaking. (Hear, bear.) It was, in fact, the law of the
strong carried against the weak, as my bee. and learned friend
the member fur Wolverhampton hai repeatedly shown.
And that was its characteristic from the hour when it re-
ceived the royal assent down to the hour when it was re-
pealed. (Hear, hear.) The right" bon. gentleman the
Chancellor of the Exchequer twits my hoe. friend about
the extent of loss which the country hi, suffered in the
reduced value of food which bar taken place since the
repeal of the corn laws ; but, is answer to that, I
will take leave to call tha attention of the
honourable member for Cansbeidgesbire, who is
the honest supporter of the prinsiples of pro-
tection to the statement lam now sheet to make. I
have n:ade inquiries—extario bageiries hmilhe
in different classes of society in the sebomt, cotta I had thee
the actual cost per head in emh family of the article of ism
is about 10d. per week, whisk is sheet equal to 46g. par
head per annum, shish, he 11,000,000 of
gives gemething Übe 81,000,00111. sudiag.
the heat ef thepeople of du United /Wishes
oust slits wins* with wheat at Ms. girter with wheel
at BM the met wrest be ninety imBI ether, hap.)
But the right huneurable 'outlaws thinks, so doubt, that
the meths ha takes all that dilasewse hen the tamer awl
stle=riseltaral Hue, and If the sine lesaity_weeeses.
sew as bohee,of aura the less wield fall we their
ibeelises, but wig that • von papules et this atom-
diary questity stirred is brought hes ahead, awillski
by ems inaeihoteres, the thirty Mikis see his we
WOW= or measure of the loss whisk the agricultural
oboe has sestained. beer.) WA time, hew is
*shakos, nada up, began.. I admit Hattie agrieuluwal
aka bee wrealusd • leas ? Ws taws peelsoled to dew
that, but always said that it would be the est result et the
repeal ef the law. (Hear, bier.) Bet if they hays •Wm It
is wale up by incressed production, by greatly IMPINIE
aud intended markets km the sale
of week They had Wes I Ebbw barb= le bar
sad skew Nam besides, an eosins= Ow
te milldams el see populates who are ossemese of op*
sultweel pedals ft Ili. (Hear, beer.) New the Chasm&
le, sf the Horkswww rinks fairly that the eswelsy hes Er
Merl foist bin, sad I lib* that every geollemus es ale
' aide et the hews will else admit that the rely Is Me.
dilly with lib. Than h ark usesimity be* is sad ewe
if dews ea the wetwltheleedis thet may obese.
tins are ustse- ea the ether side of the house
to free trade, but the ft* wade ssa!ority in NW
„house is but • hint sad inadequate Miles of
the free made majority an exists amiable{ the
United Hisalen. (Hear, kiser.)
_My hew thsa
the sambas me Weheehureplut, submits • maim whisk
he esseidus be be wholly, emirely, and expliekty is see-
leashes el the deifies of the oraawy, while we be.
lime that the answitoot of the debt boa. (*Hems
the Memel* of the lashatere Is made with • resew
Ilia. whisk say peudily keel* no is der
=eisserpeasese la the tiers. (Hear.) Tate-
we peeps* tha nadallisa, mid watt it to the
mmadmesd. Oa any ties Sider dsebt he a moment
Wisher, the interest if bee trade—hem* that h
the walla Wan we—it is wet be the 'damage of the
eswelothat the he
Arad spas* the reside. rather
than the Gamiest Oaa swum, I say, who h a tree
*aim eserisolleudy doubt whisk it is peeper le M t Bat
if any ma des Awl% Ist Maltase tura ler a wesent to
the owe Mos by the of the geverasesat ea •
neat eseedew whin clap Mee begin the estuary.
(Hear.) lan disposed sew ha a moat or We le ask
the ateatiso of the base le Os spikes expesual Is July
last, when the esesleis• if the shah* Is delies of the
weary was net se oppress as it h new. 'Whet were the
of haa. wombs* opposite then ? peer, hoer.)
geakesa, amidst the Aare sal
howitter ofthe hews% here read • hag
ef prelastleast painless he* various Eisenberg
The
the geesseseht
matt
d their pporter,. esollweed
The bate tile! sessehse (Mr. suHasksaue) lam
er Limped
MTh afterewolemethe Wimp* it Orsetimas, at Wells
theli
at Soldell. salil at Uweek, " We may willingly, omega tee
ono am &Ids the Was." Why hal mem*
the itews and abler Os Was ?" (Opperd sheen
Why IWO yea, based of issiapsharester with yeurhiestle
in the ramatry, why doe% yea, UMW dmereybig re-
petition he sserslity—(reeswed dieme)—velma yea bare
• seat in that bewsh,irby dew% yaw, le • rawly seasor, fail
in *hoes ef awe wad elbow, Milesugh telelebsw, have
martial*. treated yes with • that saw sever be
exceeded ? (Chem.) Come to Ws ef the bum, ass
off year ski and if there be any quake ea whisk
yea sea die** who seemed yea, de it es halleasly,
as aerardy, ad as verrOly as yea sea. (Hear, bear.)
Now, my apes. is ree those c=eases was to hew that
it is set Es t alum hem isewthers
Hen to 'mit-
es* that we ewe *greed es thb quakes. (oer hear.)
I de ms belisee—whaner theOhemiler etas (Have,
ezhiree 'Mb mad to hie sera 'globes spew the
of the plevenomeiv-1 de set believe that year 114
(addeaskte the atisistadella leaders) are h
ave
• ; sad, wet Was Ibmotraites, bow au they have
eery semidries hi you,f they am Ibsen sad you are cis.
cwt bear.) Or bra INS tee have "uLb—Wt
the sietilel of Msteaks, and Garry out a
Marla pulley fee the him, who ve knew that
three-he:he if hogs who beep yes In Meg are
as Rosh wised now se ever they were to the
palsy thigh we advigais ? (.. Hear, lastr," and *beta)
le asolosisa, the how. samba said t I woad jam sal the
atm*. et the been le the adalesiser sags as to the
pupae= Nadi*, of the haboastorg dense in W parts of
the ereatry. Irish at their empleyoust, bow steady it I.
sad law eatidastsey thole weigh Lila at their meal and
Mel meth% and ohm* whairsoisillity peak& ail
ewe the .matey. (Hama hoer.) Is dist seusapematies to
yew, the beMen of As and 18,118 awes Is it no
admits.* It yee, eves if ye. had aullreed
when se a body I believe yes bare resl..beit if you b 44, is
it emsommn to yea that yew ,without the
en sissy arm your high eel
it
wi ehe 4guistlerthdesses puss midi is wants*
In order OM pest tor be risk. If yes leeh at le Wag
Zee WO Oki la lie oolitic. et the labouring sissies
eseripmesthe hr whet Wary
,they repeal of the ears
MIINN may twee lasted ea Orbs el " Hear,
.") The dela hie. the Massenet of the Haar
um ea • rowed oreelee, 1 Wok is leeks--sad I should
slake his whin asst he gem there to be a little awe
awehl, for the qmogliseeminent min ere reported, and
Min be Mein Ihmes be dogs not repeat lsewhere—
ipllwilirlirtta6 14111

EVENING. NOVEMBER 24, 1852.

—(a laugh)—beat I behove it is looked spent es something
rather unplessaid and immunise' in a oountry. (Laugh-
ter.) The right hoe. 'oedema ought to have keowe
better. He ought to have Mews that daring the lose six
years he has net cestributed • feather weight, while ere,
whom the vilifies, have soot:dieted a great deal. Ten or
twelve years oh our lodides.) lives have Me devoted to this
one object, and althea, It all men should revile us, we
stand acquitted hyper owe coneetencee, believing that we
have worked successful ter tho good of oar 00018011
country, (Hear, hear.) 'I ask the house to unction its
own pssicy, to set Ito sealirrevembly on what it did is
1866, and by its vote of to-night to establish on a arm basis
the charter of lees indestsy to the people of this kingdom.
(elms.)
Mr. ICBM SEYMBR, in supporting the amendment,
defended the government, as the only one that the country,
who were tired of the whigs, and afraid of the rsdicale,
could be expected to tolerate.
Mr. F. PEEL was not contented with the free trade pro-
fessions of the government, who wished their opponents to
receive them as oonverts, rather than to brand them with
the stigma of apostate,. In July, the majority of that party
were protestisideey and the prevent converts were
principally men these who had bosom warmed in the
race for oMee. Me thought, too, that some reparation was
due for the pest. They all remembered how that party had
received one Me apolitical conversion.— COneeleiOn that,
compared with the preseet, was attended with a tenfold
amount or pollidem—ond k would be fair if that party
were now eempelled ee deekte the free trade policy of 1846
a wise, jim4sed beneficial measure."
Lord PAUtERSTON then rose, and said—l shall not
detain the hem at say length in stating the view
which I take el the ptepssNlsns submitted to us, and of the
position in while the hens moons likely to be placed. I
have stated me • forme es orlon, and I repeat it now,
that I think it was not anlypreper, but, under the circum-
stances, absolutely sitemerry, tbst we member should pro-
pose to the bowie a reesiales swplss the question which
the government bad put to the mean y the dissolution of
the last parliamesh If, Ittihad, the speech from the throne,
had been, in regard to that pea of it which treated of the
question of free trade and mention. couched in language
more plain and unambiguous, it l. possible that the address
in reply might have been soaped as the answer of the
house on the part of the country to that question,
as to the preference between the two opposite prin-
ciples of commercial policy. But in that respect the
speech from the throne was undoubtedly as ambiguous as
words could nuke it; and that fact increased the necessity
in my opinion for some such measure as has been taken on
this occasion. It was not necessary, indeed, with a view to
settle what should be the policy of the government and of
parliament that any opin at all should be impressed on
the subject; because those who have watched the
progress of public opinion, and have observed events in this
country must, I think, have lug since made up their
minds to the full conviction that a reversal of the system
of 1846, and of succeeding years, was as impossible as any
physical miracle that you could mention. But it was very
fitting nevertholue in some respects that pulismentshould
express an opinion. But to give to that expression of
opinion that weight which it is desirable that it should
carry, it:is in my opinion most important that that opinion
should be expressed, if not with unanimity at least with
se large majority as possible. (Loud cheers from both
sides of the haw.) In regard to the resolution my bon.
and Marna kind has proposed there is not a word in it to
which I shell not be ready to subscribe. I think
the amenliMel Sad the policy to which it refers were wise
were jest, sad have been beneficial. (Rear, hear.) I
thisk -with my hon. and learned friend and with the go-
rermaime. as they have expressed the conviction that the
improved condition of the country, and especially of the
indushiens classes, has been mainly the result of that recent
legislation which has removed protective duties, and which
has established the principle of unrestricted competition.
I think I need sot say that I concur with my hon. and
learned friend and with her Majesty's government in
being ready to affirm that that system ought and must
heneef,rward be the guiding rule of the legislation of the
country. If, therefore, the motion of my boo. friend
were put tos,this house,of aye or no, I should be compelled
by my own conviction% to say aye. But I cannot but m-
older also not merely my own convictions and opi-
nions but the convictions of thou who are re-
q_uind to concur in the proceedings of this house.
(Loud cheers from the protectionists, from which
side of the home only was the noble lord dimmed
during the rest of his speech,) There is a large party in
this house who have long held different opinions from those
of my hon. and learned friend, and who bare honourably,
1 think, now yielded their personal and original convic-
tions to their senor of what is the opinion of the country and
the inevitable force of events. (Cheers.) I fur one em
very far from joining in the taunts and reproaches ad-
dressed le that party. In a country like this there cannot
be a mem Onerous doctrine to establish than that It is
diegrasetal to men to yield their convictions to the force of
ocantereetiag events and eircumstenees. (Hear, hear.)
With seek a doctrine established there would be an end to
all pregame or improvement. We meet hero from day to
day for me ether peepers than to convince each other • sad
every menwho esdeavears to persuade other people to
memo round to hieeeppfis e, debars himself in justice from
he right of repessilas them when he has succeeded.
(Hear.) I say therefore, that the wares taken by that
party in surrenthrinf their original immense' is as ho-
nourable to them GO tis betteUal to the enemy. Taking
that view, mg spike is that the tonalities preponed by her ,
Majesty's reveranser seethe the halsr adasewledement
of the histells wadi resent sammersial Is hes pro-
datied—(obeers)--ead does pledge every men who ems for I
it to contribute te loader that system beseelerward puma-
sent. (Hew, beer.) In regard to the present mak regard ,
to the future, =Le little difference in substeam and '
fact between the of my hon. friend and the moo-
lotion of the greereemat. (Cheers.) In some respects the
resolution of government is stronger than even that of
ay hoe. hind, because It cmolodes with an opinion of the
home as to what it is the duty of her Majesty's government
te de. (Hear, hon.) That mown ie obviously unusual, and
I heal peeler the terms adopted by my bon. friend,
rairilys sots. the readiness of that house to consider any
ine may he proposed, in conformity with the n-
aiades the hewn may establish. But I regret to me a
Mal Pis the emulation of my hen. friend, which met be
earidiseed by gentlemen swan as a bar le their
asespennee et the wbele. (Cheery AU that this anstry
mks a pselimmt—ell that the canary cares deal is,
what is pediment gelitiodevehat are to be the perma-
nent principles flour I don't think run
cuss, Of thee hoo • what may the
vats whams et the wtyto thebe
To be melting mss Is that respect is war;
following the ism* of a tribunal which we are
set in the heat a imitating—it is like the pear
tin el die leiniatier te amyl pe_ see le some
ham yes, sad set assist with heir &dandles rest
dole modest ail be is seanalw with year deem le
hese them to go dews ea thole arm sat to ammo any
..term of nentetion yea eines is nen ups hrs.
.) We use len an meembly a gestiseier and
6771.5 We who are gentlemen es this tide of dm Men
eight to remember we are haw with gentlemen es he
ease side Ohs hoses; sad I, fee one, ewes resseelle it
le hear he ea mieseenarily was any set of Boyish
he lierwe=say purpose I may have la
AIPW, dant tertaim, or to
roma le ;ewer they don't entertain, hat meg .1111 be herniae In their mina.
Id yeas hem,lfpeylia, dim tWp stM think
thessessereses is was astSWhe, I think,
they earn tray reels missewleige le the
mess of
with have predated the restate skin "'moot
Woo I thin they will seseede, have hese win I myself
an a wines tat when pat tele nil eh
se=he sedgented ammo ef ems to
Way, end hoe has the of dis-
poni, Sem manses sad dim regale, they eh nine
need to as spine * the peat a bides me mil
ups. as rime . Bet it I. nut to the
pen so for as the scenery is eissermed, what they pistil
the edgiest inner rinse. (Hier.) And ease dine
I sheen mesh wish pat same middle
dilion=2 Is NM folliodos head be
pospend, This\ en IMO La Ernie. in he assist
maser the delseminalim of this hues le pews and ser
thee the pay whisk we es this side
..efg,,iiitel•
ea the other Ismil be ha hem these as
.so eland. head the iineml isprd
m framas (Hear, bees.) Mesh a whet las
ip=debateseam to Ise to have been dal a
iewraeany. The boa member far Keembeeter
shod nes Se genament to alma le the modes
bsege
h ol
bed Manila Mead. while r. iamb et h
wand m dmiler reader that WNW ispoodble.
lte. gentlemen (Mr. Brightj shags that
hl. peii4ll dint is that a frostrade resehillea of this
heels On* be pat es regard for the p of
hedge masa seers_ particularly he des of Ile
tiled Sass; but
by at the man thas the le-
eserelis ges hot esendieg saw
lugsof gesti IM mer
specie% sadvery by dm general
tense able tante hen shone eteginioa, roma te he to
be doing ell be midi to rehab the=h
_if s arlerity
it is to be, is haiver amy her ea Idea's moo-
ban, to the meant yeah ensent (Chews) I ask
ay her triad WUwlu stkee in le hit se) to ea-
deer theesesequeses Imam se aellesey party
=CMm wish I thia emir lam being ends&
M paha Nom. hem Ws
peen a alma l
ee.)
Wenn to a rest *l deems& altyllitth)
When lay sonequases Ide net spin the re-
ran of this MO regards the debility of
this partner geneemeat. I put the metier this
way. My hen. ma le na hind* reselidies will be
emend or will be milesla I bat I talk it ie amity enough
le he semi from the Ins sartForr et the Mem that I
will eine be atria or by a very sme end
nerea arhai. I will apples that it will be re-
all so imposeibb asymni—geud began
tdirs .411sehleidsb) ;—berease hilt there ere loony
immine et ale been sot 'sly awing the mew
hone, hoes hese appealed le with nee
hulk dim bat she mew the eneelensed "id
)—who ere creowpr=ly didmined
nand mama into a mere ty he resell sew-
leg die genemsest. (Hear, hear. I for one nee Hein-
Wend le lehe that view. (Hear, boor.) This lea serrate
gamin elimpribse, and sesta to be kept separate from any
esed)andes ef " enlithase " or "se seaddenee." Metts,
lAir.) I my,
_bmiever, espposhig my her end honed
Mears renellea wen le be -islested, the
AY wend go nor he Ism* end breadth ettPlismt,
sad sense the • meeld-natarally_ he that the free-
loads pnty was in a in the time of ONIIIIIIIIII,
art egad emiateasineht eminsised, areamonk a helm
awake fee might be re to, in leash be
doesemees as peolialseisle dine who Cahn le nes he
, the esselehe et ay her sad heron Mai (Hear.)
I Nile het wend be an esil foga to be
eveldia. bat, 111 ebb Wag bra, siffesiel lb/ rads-

LORD PI

don denied by a majority of 10, or 20, er 30—all that could
be expected—l will ask any sincere free trader whether
that would be a satisfactory result ? Would it be satisfac-
tory as compared with a resolution in favour of fres trade
unanimously arrived at? It is, perhaps, natural that
gentlemen who struggle as the champions of free
trade against what they have regarded se en un-
fair and dishonest principle, should, on obtaining
a victory, desire to push their triumph to an
extremity, and to trample on their defeated foe
But in the present circumstances, when they have to con-
sider that the decision of parliament miy have a very ad-
vantageous result epos their canes all over the world, and
that on the other hand the consequences of the course they
are taking may bo moat mischievous to the interests they
desire to uphold, I think that they might see the policy of
accepting the hand which is tendered to them, and of not
compelling their opponents to state too exactly the precise
degree of their convictions, if only those opponents are too-
tent to act with us. (Cheers.) 1 think it is ungenerous on the
pert of a majority, if majority it be, to endeavour to compel
unwilling persons to subscribe to opinions which they
do not entirely share. It is in vain to make the
attempt, for we see that they will not do it ;
and therefore not only is the attempt ungenerous, but it
fails in the accomplishment of its purpose ; and the only re-
sult is, that we deprive ourselves of that fall authority
which the unanimous vote of this house would give. l'er-
haps it might still be desirable to have dimientients—to have
some fieldmice of the existence of protectionists, if only by
way of a contrast. (A laugh.) But I think it is uogen roue,
and impolitic, and unwise, to do what is now being
attempted to be done. I would propose a middle C3WW.
Certainly, as there are already two resolutions before the
house, Ido not presume to lay a third on the table. But
at the same time, if the house will permit me, I will just
read that form of words which, if I were encouraged by any
manifestation of opinion on the part of any great body of
gentlemen in the house, I should be ready to tender for their
acceptance. This form of words records, I think, in the
one hand fully the doct-ine of free trade and the perma-
nent establishment of that system, while, on the other hand
it isnot liable to the objection of requiring those who might
agree, to to much to recant opinions which they may
honestly in former periods have entertained. What I
should propose is this—it would almost be like a plagiarism
of my hon. and learned friend if it were to be too like his
—(laughter)—.. that it is the opinion of this house that the
improved condition of the country, and especially of the
industrious classes, is mainly the result of recant legisla-
tion, which has established the principle of un-
restricted competition, has abolished taxes, im-
paled for the purposes of protection, and has thereby
diminished the cost and increased the abundaoce of
the principal articles of the food of tho people ;
that it is of opinion that this policy, firmly maintained
and prudently extended, will beet enable the industry of
the country to bear its burdens, and will thereby meet
surely promote the welfare and contentment of the people;
that thin house will be ready to take into consideration
any measures consistent with this principle, which in
pursuance of her Majesty's gracious speech and re-
commendation may be laid before them." (Minis-
terial cheers.) Now, continued the noble lord, I really
would submit that these words contain everything which
my hon. and learned friend has proposed in regard to the
present, and in regard to the future, while they contain
nothing which any hon. member who hoe yielded his
opinions to the irrefutable force of events can, with perfect
satisfaction to himself, subscribe to. (Hear, hear.) But
now I shall be told that this form of words, by omitting
a weed, just leaves a door open for the question of compen-
sation, and that I take to be the real point. ([tear,
hear.) Bet I say that the inserion of the word
"jest" does not shut the door at all. It would be equally
competent for the Chancellor of the Exchequer or any
other member who chose to make the proposal in the finan-
cial arrangements of the year, to propose a change of taxa-
tion for the purpose of giving what they may call relief,
which amounts to coommuntion, to the agricultural classes,
and I hold we should not stand in any degree worse—we
who might be disposed to resist the resolution because the
word "just" was not in the resolution. I think there is
nothing so undesirable as mixing up together questions
which are not connected, and which are essentially dif-
ferent. I hold that these two questions are quite distinct—
the one question whether our commercial polity should be
maintained ; the other a question whether, in comequenott
of that policy, a claim for what they may call compensation
and relief should be allowed. You may affirm the main-
tenance of the principle of free trade, and yet may
entertain one of the two opinions with regard
to comminution. It is perfectly competent for any
man to think that the principle of unrestricted
competition ought to be maintained, and that its
maintenance does not entitle anyone to compensation; er
he may entertain the opinion that it is • hardship on •
certain class, and that that dam have sn equitable claim
for compensation. My own opinion is that the compensa-
tion to the agricultural class is to be found in those circum-
stances which were so wall adverted to by the hon. mem-
ber for Manchester—ill the improved condition of the
country, in the cheapness of everything which they
have to buy out of what I must admit in many cases to be
their diminished rents, In the contentment of the people, in
the cordiality of feeling which has been established between
the upper and lower classes, in the love and affection of all
around them, in the absence of all that invidious )'esloasy,
which before the lower classes were naturally led to feel
towards their superiors ; feeigiethtie at the laws were cake-
Leta to put money into the of the l andlords at the
expense of the great mass o( the people of the country. I
say that is the compensation which I think the landed in-
tenet an entitled to, and that is the compensation they
have already obtained. That is my opinion. I do not
quarrel with any man who may entertain • different opi-
nion; but when them questions Immo before us, let them
come distinctly, and we shall not be the lees able to new
Live any proposal we may disapprove of because we have
united on this resolution. What is the calculation of those
who brit on these words. I presume that they expect to
be la • mejority. Well, if they are in a majority to-night
Infaisnien the word " just," with a view to prevent
sonnet they make the same muster on
repal=ke' so
when any motion is brought forward
to grid ? They would be just as able, and
I wadi tray thew wield be better able, to shut the door
when the peeped than they would be to night by
ea Whim ex • aids wind, to shut out a claim
whisk they oad y negative, and which is not
distionly brought beide the consideration of parliament.
I have only to my that I deplore the condition in which the
beds is abed to find itself. I do not think it is to
the credit et pediennat, that when a great question of
amnia polls, las been pat to the country, and when the
beds ie called apse te make ea answer to that question,
that we shoed tarn it at ease isle a mere party struggle,
dem whe get up oa side lazily mesa it as a
smears apes the dna ought to mean it
eat, m the illestallea of a Is evident this
61611.1111111111111 i Is-sight, awl shield wily hope that
lam pelleasta will well adder between this time and
Mot "Ma the debate shall be eseemet ; that a spirit of
mmellatien reef be bead totminds bed sides sf the
pthet en the id head them who are dinged beset
pemnia trivia Is inpied to tatsde ea mead-
meat es 'have read, sod ea the ethic band, 'y hen. friends
who sit on this side may be seated with something like
what I have proposed, free ban dame expended which
hurt the &sham of boa. gentlemen, and that the result
may be that we shall all sobs is whet would
be ea overwhelming alirmatien ef • great prin-
ciple of 11011111•61 piney, mega
which would
bead only ssaisbustery te alas Madam sad ninetpnine
slit if every thousand pasties in the eseatry, but which
4be of the sunset imprenaes is ear relations with
adatries. (Cheers.)
)1. GLUON and Mr E. Borman LITION then both
nen sad both or one of the be.. member, we could not
mosetmia winds. moved the adjournment of the debate,
thigh was at once put and carried, earl
o' dosi
The house they adjourned at tan 'Mantes peat twelve
t.

RESOLUTIONS.

That ff le die *pixies at this boar that dr re.
Wmaditha etre esentry, sad avidly of ths Wm-
ose, le mealy the resale ef Ruh Withsa
haseseddishe4 he ',triple et lowtoWerCessape-
Mtel.iss retired tsar Insposed teeth pow. at pro-
and
taxerthereby dirainished het sad hareased
the ahudea the priecipal utilise of the hod of the
!MatROOM h of opinion that this peaky firmly
sad pereatly exteadr, will boss suable the
Wire, of re merry to bear its berthas, sad will
rrrook eared, rears the welter and hatestasst
yeals
That
Hewn will be ready to take into consideration
say iniewsses sewskteat with this principle, which, in par-
eaaaee Aw reperfsimiess weer and reehamenda-
doe, may hl e ha leash

Bar has us bead, thsrlan hag I du/ it ;
He has ~ host, sad gets his swags sy It.
G.

HEALER OF LONDON DUPING TILE WEEIL—Tho
hllewing are sit:sets ham the tidal report :—During the
three weeks at hate /mini dais seoetk the deaths show
a decrees*, bevies liesa sammelvely 1,101, 1,022, and 921
Is tits Ma weeks soresepeadhog to the week that ended last
!Worley the average mists was 1,011. which, if eor.
reseed be hareem of pepelalleo. Umtata M. that which
amount last week's mortality h Ism by Them facts
are evidence that the palls health has she salmi lately,
neterlthsteadlng the unreel lad paimeged wawa of the
weather. • bemoan b ehe eheened in he mortality of
systolic diessems, while have helloed teem 228 I. the pre-
ceding week to 184 la Ai last, while la the same time
diseases of the naphsteey organs 01:111111MITO
have demand hos OS to 16T. Searistisa has fills from
N on;clod with mspect to ether sphismies the saw
hen mimed le them last week see es fallow : small-
put f, I, lumping maigh 17, croup 4,
ihessh 4, dieerbais l 6 dmoolia I, influenza 3,
=L •WM I, Wahl, sat remittent fever 2,
Mk rumpled fever g (beetles ether 6 deaths that
issearred Is childbearing), ..,incise kayphilis one. Last
week the births of 770 hays sad 770 girls, in all 1,490
Attires were registered is Ueda'. In the area cones-
Mi,l'weeks of yeara 1046.61 the averse! number was
41$ the Soya' Observatory, Greenwich, the mesa
of the barometer is the week was 29.169 in. The
mass pasture of Om week was 49.3 deg., which is
6.2 deg. above the average of the same week in um years.
The sem daily temperature was above the averag• on
every day of the week, and the easewas more than 8 deg.
en Monday and Tuesday, and 6 deg. en Wed/today and
Saturday. The wind blew generally frees the synth-west.
The rain to the Meek assisted ii 1.77 ia.