The Express.
London, England, 1855-06-09 00:00:00

and farther, that we Ind othatffilmile mad mines, and la
ha Waded to issues the Maim a Finance, sad
Mt M sheath the sword wail H. Moirmils emd arentia.
155 ayes mad motives otßomelo.liedi bow Imillorbed by our
ems. The tight b.. berme (Sir W. lffelesweete) hod
talked a then Wig ether de yams war :Alit haw rash*
did dm Aeleamey-feaminal oimmiegiate ? lip the avenges
of Whom. ea hawed metkeise ell santsewea wet iii
meoeliden ems men mead; andi the tams deem=l
tee SOMA the moon inernmaintere eel=sai
Did way or bales. lat the feret peir Sell been
dimmed at Tease, or the the Remiss hew
to far gulps and four tripes, seam hen sememplishedal
or as, of the Anions wok k foamed a slaps. of tee
boa. sad learned gestlemea's spur& ? This was nab too
mine a (peados to be mods the mister of ream
,push's of that hied. The been was &shag
with the safety mad the indeposdeses of Barone, with oso.
enemies to this moan which might sae the boldest
maa tenable to main that ay peones of these ease.
gnome depended is his single &MM. What wee the
gentles they were celled cm to seaside, ? He aimed wills
&r F. Bung that thin wen diseases something all the
interest of what lied peeled, sad that It was eatrastely
difiesit to know tits pewee Wins of ths vote they war.
about to gin. (Roar, hear.) He hod anis "lowa intend-
Mg to appose kis right hoe. friend (Sir F. Baring). sot
hum may giedieelat admieetha of the emeadniest Ise bad
Mowell, abide ail Set lasi to any practical or &Rohe
eesst.isat het himpportad it is proforma* to Mr. Lou's
emsedmism, whisk was so Whit& that there was so min
ie. and whisk, if adopted, would lea to irreparable
.Tsh isestely hoped that neither &a first nor
W mama pert of that amendment would meet with say
tavola hem the house, sod that no large memoir of
tnembres is either side would vote is its hear
The argamests urged is (*Tomo( pone were ennui, those
which hod his. used all through the Finch war, namely,
that the House Commons withisd the grouse; power of
'coy body is the world. mad had therefor* the imam ins-
possibility; that the hoodoo of the home was an to make
seam or war, hot to uprise its wino, as ths sends of
be advisers of dm crows. Already. since th• war cow
amen ad, the home had removed ma ministry. A motion
we mash, whish, if carried, would kayo removed another.
VIM woe the legitimate (wades of the bomb. Bat Mr.
Limit aMemisiemt would seem them ii step beyond their
immelleme. Ears that amendment to be adopted, how
weld Led J. moll, or my other ploulpotootiary, go to
This M eagage in future negotiations, fittend as this
alleatry Veda be by • resolution of that hoses? (Hear,
hoar.) Meanies would naturally object to eater into nego.
Naas with a minister who was is reality not a plenipo-
essalam bet who same to the 000tbrence with • moieties
olrs Rows of Comatose pledging him not to discuss
..s pants. It was said the resolution refined osly to
dm Wed point ; but that was the essential ono. (Hear,
Wm) Emma if the mode@ of Sir F. Smug were emended
• geignied by Mr. Lows he doubted whither the latter
=TWeeld wept ; for it regretted that the eon
ed ilia. (Rear, hear.) He thought eves the
ellialllMMe WOWS not accept the amendment, though it
usenid Mho • hare stimmeat of foss, far the sonfereass
had sot bees doted whoa W motion was submitted, and
thentao it add sot thee be said tbat the negotiations had
tek.eißomeeidesagala to the Attorney-General's speech,
Areetfm alliservid that he exaggerated fear
d giewteg power it Eosin might do more harm theft
•11111•11gg it. Th• power of Russia, though gnat
mowed with Turkey, was not so es manta
with Groat Britain. (Hear, beer.) Hs did mot
Oink there was any necessity to all the pes-
simisms missend by th• Attetam-Guienl. He looked
open die dime= of Airohamielas as the greatest dugout in
white We eseothey bad bum Meshed ; bat that bed arises
from es as. marl tsar of dm power sad mobisetions et
R. czar, hear.) Tamper wenn wm to set aside
say abler eltimelm tkaa them -whiok had hitherto boss re-
garded mi She pormaemme edema eed Wawa at this
~dm le rims to wakaell whisk the boom bat hitherto
11•1111111, inimperesd. TM supplis• aweemery tar earning
at the tier Ind how thearfally voted by the boon, sad
imported by the ,ashram.. feeling of the country. (H ear,
Isis.) Bat we mast, is widener, limit ourselves to the
*OW dames haw me. •A met look forward to other pro-
Whig tame mil xemille &won He should give kis sup
own tithe mass ; andhelbftmatitwasthedutyofeery
Bailie/visa to give his bast and cordial support
to his enmign sad for ministers, whoever they
might be, ia the effectual peasmation of the war. Bet hr
dimenialed dissussious the oily .Q at of whittle meet be to
add a sow chapter to sue difficulties, to mate a new war,
M a new object, with new motive, open new rods 2
ft slight be with new ernes, it might even be with sew no-
Mies—sad to do that for objects which were sot specifically
d'Amil, or were ashy cosveyed to the home in inane.
ham periediosited to the teeing of the moment. Let
them Miediene in CM coons which the hone had always
globe le the crown cordial and effectual support,
showing to the prerameat and the
nontry, by She his end language or their deletes, that
te4Mgendlkeataws,menfind those lives, made these
▪ gni leeneelell thee marilloes,
_to guard against the
mil medial denims ailide bud already been resniteted by
M tendon d 11111111111111•1. end not for any remote, un-
lammed. %alumni/a 111.111. dissected with those saga topics
weicas be rertineld bad berm iatrodemil into the debate.
Mr. DISRAELI leatmdt.d, his edgiest chugs of io-
elimaistoncy end amdligefty egoista ministers bad bees
hilly sishisatialled. The issue a wto he decided wee of '
Oho unmet aseguenee. If the beam dionght it wise to
dealer* that the esedithas introdueed into the confereame
at Vienna by llio gable lord the thiaseszy of State, for tho
Itemisation of the Remiss Ant, should los the rim quo team I
of a wee. thee inznit.im. the mamma, of
the member foe . New be (Mr. Disraeli)
-es opposed to thstosid merely bosom be thought it highly
impolitic for the Hewn of Coelnioaa in this short sad hop.
hued maser to pkidge itself to • position which he
thought was swimmable, bet bonne it wee his *sift that '
the proposition if the noble lord was one which asbestine
to have bora made, and was essential, inefficient. He
would try to Ante before the house the reasons why be
thought that thie senditiok abstracted from the cptasticie of
ley, was allellietely fient. The object of the noble
sad of hi asnesineat, well to nine the navel pee-
s& Sias is the Black See. Oar onion at pre-
sume we to sheik ei diminish, if possible to destroy, what
awes alleitheCallaissease of Russia as against Turkey.
Neale he pleme, he would make this observation,
Might le wag of the golds lord's consideratioa,
Mat W repeadesemes of laadams usenet Turkey is the
poilliial egoism seme met BBMWt WBleck See. Hs should
ash eitlilltde tam 01 being eistogiond op those who were
well,. of the onijmmf,Ha of the thew misrers frogs which
Turkey might be .woad by Zags, the Black flee was
the on from which it was the ham ti be hared. Turkey
we. sessiloble by Ramis hem the Don de*, from Asia, sad
hum the Bleak Sea. What we willed the prepoadrranee
Mania equally present epee Turkey from the Danube,
from Asia, ad from the Black See. Now the project of
W noble lard say preemeded to meet the difficulties and
Mogen which might arise from the Ruoin preponderance
is the ark am. whisk, as ha thought he tios,d show the
able. lard, wee the Met to be feared. He (Mr. Disraeli)
dean* that Remain bad the power, that she ever bad or
said have the power of sending an army, with the neon.
Nary cavalry, artillery, and means of trenersort, from
Sebastopol or say other port in the Black Sea
le the Turkish comets. She a had • fleet,
she sever could have a fleet for nab en operation, when
the mind snits of Ragland and Freese, the two grimiest
maritime powen of the worol, bad ben able to drat
sash ae object. A loused mina on the soma night of
this debate talked of the great expedition of the Remise
army to Daher Skelesid, which ha estimated at 6.000 am.
lie (Mr. Disraeli) did sot think the Turkish maws we to
fall by en lenses of 6,000 men. He happened to be in the
anew, at that tame, sad he th night the learned mine%
aedenteted his me ; sad if he bad *LA 10,010 or 12.000
men, be would base been nearer the mark. But that small
lone, the mania which was a prodigious ettort, and cost
all the power whisk amnia could command, woe &attend
be the Turks, Me were most anxious to /naive
W bersisati. (Hcaft. hem) All that Russia could do,
wader smy elammeinneso. weld be to throw troops apes
the neetkes she did le lfir" when ohs disembarked forms
aS Stlettell earl which be (111 r. Disraeli) recollected ;
sad they remised &mi—they never mond, and had no
power of moviag. He did not say they were utterly it.
drain Is the course of the empties ; they made, to a
@erten attest, a sanitary Cowan for Rem* who wee
then isvediag Turkey from the Danube. Bet so far from
pedalling say effect ou the fete of the wee, it mashie, sad
it was now, impossible that say mil tary fern moved from
Sebastopol as Turkey saki possibly do it. There mealy
cm prat ea the Turkish coast when Turkey mold be
sessile& with effect • sad that he admitted was
the Bosphorus. To Yet poise he would prometly refer.
Of parer be did an protead to start seek as opines es
that bans( the commaad of the sat was set a very great
oireatage to Rusk, in say war with Toren. By tire
~.mead of tha se& mks mild bring provision, easoninitien,
eras, to say fees she might hare ea the onset. But it woe
• livened edentate, not detain of the molt of war.
Well this, let the house look at the Datum of the proposal,
for the limitation of the navel forms of Taney mad Reese
—Teekey was to have only • *Math number of ships is
the Beak Sea, bat she we to kayo an malimitad
somber of ships in the Bosphonts—Resda was to
kayo only • limited number is this Black Sus,
cat she would be able to baild as sway ships
as se • liked at Nisholaleff, where she builds,
.11 her ships; and she cola airy down thole
skips. as he (Yr. Disraeli) had seen them floated
lowa, la four or five days to Sebastopol, rigged nisei-
boned, mimed in guns, and prepared, in bee thin ;maw
eeek Well, then, whet would hen bloom aim Ming t
Sammie there hod been the inset inn., surupulees, and
visa obesevanse of this May, ell that Turkey mold haw
eased by it was that perhaps it might base sa steatites
A throe or four weeks if there was a war • but if it hop
need, as it was Nam to haws, that Maisie daciand wee
ItaTarkoy, se maasmd, as sea weal Milers.
kie; shield helms war against Rosen wham
was gaits prepared for it, this of wane we diamill haw
the Rwian tint Boated down, equipped mid dastiag
is Black See, before the dipaearis ems wm grows
op to remonstrate naiad the violating of the emiaty.
(Hoar, hen.) It therefore would require ammo
& wheaten sad cemmearedsees om tho partial Loki
tingly,y, v
and ngly, without a on of the treaty. ohm weld
always haw. is ease of a declaration of war, • due is W
Sink Sea, ewe without sending to she Unied Scat* toe
those 130 gas ships of width the hone bad hoard so amig.
(Bar, busy.) This pant had bees dimmed with greet
amity sad ray tally fa the earn of the debate; aid
he (Kr. Disraeli) lied only refined to it, became he
Meld speak of euftainamoss Wallis his men minium,

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