The Express.
London, England, 1863-07-09 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PAWdAMENT•

HOUSE OF COMMONS—Wrimows; JVU &
CASUAL POOR (METROPOLIS) BILL.

After our report left yesterday,
Mr. H. LEWIS approved the principle of the bill; but
11,41..6 tbeie were great objections to many of its details.
The deserving amongst the casual poor too often suffered
by being coafounded with a number of tramps and vagrants.
Lord RAYNHAM said he should be glad to ntbdzaw the
ball if he could obtain ao aastinume that early next 10111011
the Poor•law Board would bring in a bill on the subject.
bill was then withdrawn.

DOMESTIC SERVANTS AND APPRENTICES RILL
Lord RAYNE' AM moved the second reading of this bill.
the object of which, be said. was to extend the provision.
of an act already in existence, whereby poor-law tans
amid exercise a supervision over the treatment persons
who had been apprenticed under the poor law.
Sir G. GREY said he was obliged to oppose this bill. It
would give powers of visitation twioe a year to the relieving
seem, in order to ascertain that these persons bad proper
sleeping accommodation. This would have the effect of
preventing the employment of these persons.
" Lardd
reading we VNIIAM e
diw thdrew the bill, and the order for
the mooescharged.

ANCHORS AND CHAIN CABLES BILL.
Mr. LAIRD moved the sewed reading of this bill. He
said a committee sat on this subject in 1860, and before that
committee evidence was given showing the necessity of a
measure of this kind requiring anchors sod chain cables to
be tested ; and it was shown that of the cables brought to
the Liverpool testing machine 82 per cent. did not stand
the tort tie knew of a case recently in which a vowel of
3,000 tons burthen bad her cables tested and they were
found deficient. If she had happened to be on
the coast of Wales in • storm there would hays
been a repetition of the disaster which h=l
a few years ago to the Royal
The object of the bill was to have testing machines DOW
bliehed in different parts of the country, which should be
licensed by the Board of Trade. It was not intended to
interfere in the manufacture of chains and cables. bat an
inspector would go round to see that the machinery of
these establishments was kept in order. He proposed that
the bill should come into operation on the Ist January
sent, and that it should not have a retrospective effect.
Mr. CAVE, in seconding the motion for the second read-
ing of the hill, said be considered that the bill would have
the effect of guarding purchasers of anchors and chain cables
against being imposed upon by having spurious articles given
to them, there being DO means of testing and detecting
them.

Mr. LINDSAY said that if the bill received the sanction
of the house they would be obliged to go one step further.
Many vessels were no doubt lost from having bad anchors
sad cables, but many were also lost from having insufficient
=lf therefore the principle of the bill was adopted
should also appoint • surveyor of sails and sum. He
reminded the house that every shipowner who desired to
obtain insurance of his ship should bring a certificate of
laving had the anchors and cables tested. If, therefore,
owners wished to have their property loured they were
obliged to provide themselves with proper ground tackle,
and in any use it was their direct interest to do so. This
fact afforded protection to the public, and he thought that '
such • bill as that before the house was Dot required* any
publics necessity. He should therefore move that it be nod
• second time this day three months.
Mr. HORSFALL supported the bill, which he ounsideud
&very useful measure.
Mr. IL GIBSON said that the bill imposed very great
responsibilities upon the Board of Trade, and duties which
it would be very difficult for them to fulfil. In • measure
of this nature it was adt sufficient to say, as showing the
necessity for it, that every ship should be provided with a
ved anchor and chain. That was admitted on all hands.
The difficulty was to secure that object being effected, and
be feared that the present measure would not do so. The
bill proposed that, after a certain date, British ships should
not be possessed of any anchors and chains save thou which
had been duly tested. The bill, however, provided so
machinery for testing them. One result, therefore, of the
measure would be that manufacturers of anchors and chains
reeidieg in a district in which there was no testing machine
would be deprived of their trade, as the heavy articles in
question could not be sent to a distance to be tasted. He
believed that the result of the bill would be to confine the
manufacture of anchors and chains to particular districts,
mod that he believed was not desirable. (Hear, hear.)
The bill as drawn was very unsatisfactory, ins*•
mach as it did not provide for the erection of testing
machines in the different anchor and chain manufacturing
district'. Again, it was sought to be enacted that no British
ship "liquid be allowed to clear out unless she was furnished
with duly tested cables and chains. That, however, could
only be ascertained by the constant supervision of every
vessel leaving port, and the examining, not only el the
&sine, bat of every link. Sufficient security already existed
far first-class vessels being provided with duly tested ground
tackle, and with respect to ?coasters there was not snfficint
evidence that that class of ship were frequently lost owing
to insufficient ground tackle. Another effect of the bill
would be to increase the cost of anchors and chain stables,
and considerable expense would also be occasioned by the
testing of all existing ground tackle. He thought that the
bill required further consideration, and as there was little
chance of its becoming law at this puled of the session, it
should be withdrawn. He did not however desire to stand
in the way of the second reeding of the bill, but its clause
should be maturely weighed before they received the roc,
lion of the house. (Beer.)
Sir J. PA KINGTON said that when the hon. member for
Birkenhead (Mr. Laird) and the hon. member for Seeder-
land ;Mr. Lindsay) differed in opinion on a 'abject like that
under consideration the house naturally felt considerably
embarrassed. He believed, however, that the arguments
urged against the bill were not well founded.
After some further discussion,

The bowie divided _,
For the wood readieg
54ttisst
NAVY PRIZE AGENTS. &c., BILL.
Thin bill paned through committee.