The Express.
London, England, 1855-05-04 00:00:00

IMPERIAL, P.

SOUSE OF LORDS.—TamtspoT, MAT S.
The Loan Cithocraieok took his seat at the mid hear.
BANK IN THB INDIAN ABUT, as.
The Bost el ILLINBOBOUGH said he had given
nodes of seme emestices whisk he wished to put to the
ashes teed the Wes Stsistor. The first related to the pad-
Asa of the AIM et the Mimi may. He seer tint a
momeenadem had bees issued area the Horse Owls Wh
ail "ablest. dated the 26th Agee. He Afraid be Ind 111
may sersagememt Mehl bll adopted that would be
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to the officers of Via' troy. They had always lip
courtesy, is this country, the nese rank as they WWI
held had they been entitled to it; sad it mold Se
he agreeable to them to hold by right that whftb theerlied
hitherto esly held W courtesy. Bat he WSW to
smierateed whether this memorandum Waled ably
te their position is society. If so, it was ban
rid more properly from the elks et the
Cr aldarshal, or from the Load Chantherlein's
depsitneset, rather than from the Wareeffies, with which
it' had seeing te do. Ho had wersiMr_geseties to
pae, wee eke of some tonpornigh By Ohio
stenuteaslum from she 1101•• Guards, dated SOO hp" it
wee beim* is seefeenity with the sides is owed for
regehlieg the ealletaiest of remain that the IMO booty
should be gins to those between It sad Si pan of age
Niyshtt ter two years, as woe gins lier the WNW period
oteeYsimkaa Was it Mbe usdeollesi that eh wee the
catabliehment of a priaMple—that the hong glees te
the rasa who enlisted fee the Misr mend was to remain
m at present, and that the bounty give. to those
between 24 36 who enlisted for two years only, was to
be raised tatst level, that, in short, there was to be no
&Erma between the bounty for the longer and the shorter
period ? If such were the intention, he fend the result
would be that all persons desirous of enlisting would enlist
for the 'boner period ; because, at the tensisattost of that
period, they could sgain enlist, with the enteinty of reedy.
isg a farther bounty. (Hear, bear.) More nu that : the
mars who enlisted for the longer period was more likely to
settle dewn to his work and Deegan a bettor *oldie?, than
the man who only engaged in the military service for a
couple of years. Therefore, it would be b. tier to hold out,
In preference, indaenseets which would lead men to statist
for the loather period. Bet, it was quite certain, if the
booty were the easse,that they would enlist for %Mebane,.
These weight, with that order, to have been a declare-
hearty than that now gives would be
castri be men enlisting for a longer period. Be
the lord had made a mistake similar to that
whisk Iss=se iajerioas to the militia—that of see
t mosey. The noble lord wee justiled
sire4aneffencireelar inferred to; at the same time every
ass mast *Kg**, the ceasequeeoes to which It would lead.
Hie ism, inseemelea woo, teat it bond of offering the
limited sera of Ids. fee re-attesratioa for longer service, be
had used • sonsehat higher sum, in all probability he
meshl Imo esstmanded a sufficient num'ser of men for the
lesser peeked. lie was iitforesed that steps had been taken
he 'Bogies dm services of 1,000 navvies, for the purpose of
medneg is the trenches, and that these navvies were to be
=coder a servers, who was to be granted a salary of
a year That was a salary equal, *Min 781., to the
eater? of a lisateaant general or a m ijor misers' is her Ma-
jesty • service, and superior by about 2001. to the salaries
of all the tens officers who were attached to the Quarter-
master General's department at bead-quareses. He goo.
beaded that these navvies, if engaged, odd have es"..
mated to serve for a pay not very far superior ille diet doe
sappers sad miners, who would be engaged be Ma DM
work; and it was a matter of very mines sesillmailin
whether men employed in the sane duty, sad nosed to
the same labours and the same danger., should be paid at
very different rates. (Hear, hear.) lie wilted to know, if
it were intended to form a corps of this deuription, whether
It was to be a military or civil corps. He could hardly
imagine that it would he of a civil character, becalm it was
to be employed under fire, and in conjunction with her Ma-
jesty's troops. If it was to be a military corps, he wished
to know what new appointment was to be given to the gen-
tleman who was to be rewarded with a pay surpassing that
of all the oars la the Quartermaster General's depaot-
Joint ; also what relation there would be between this body
of 1,000 mita and the sappers and miners, what authority
was to be given to the person commanding them, sad under
what g 1 authority the men were to serve ?
Lord PANHURB, with reference to the first questiew,
SS the subject of Indian officers, might state, is the int
place, that the memorandum referred to went no further
in its spirit than it did in the letter, to confer on those
officers • suitable position, which had hitherto bees son.
aided to them by courtesy. bet upon which there had been
previously some doubt. No one could rejoice more than
he did at any mark of foveae which was bestowed on the
*Boers of the Indian envies ; and no one was more willing
at any time to mom in the removal of distinctions which
might be thought to detract from the efficiency ef that
b'dy. They had during a long period been engaged in a
Series of arduous struggles throughoat the vast territor in
which the Indian army was employed. They bid
minimised the integrity of those territories, and had
assisted by their courageous conduct in upholding
and extending the donnin of this cottony in that remote
region. Bat, is saying that, he u.ight take the opportu-
nity of adding that it was his opinion, es well as teat of a
great many others, that the services and distinction of the
lodise oßctre had been somewhat unfairly used to put in
the background the services and distinction of the officers of
the Qesen's service. The opportunities which the former
had bad of learning the art of war practically in India bad
outably gives them great advantages; but he held that
these advastages ought not to entitle them to more than
fair coasideration. In the Queens army there were nom-
hen of oaken who bad nut yet had an opportunity of
seeing any service, or of carrying oat in practice that mili-
tary education which they had received in theory. If
Indian officers had already made their way to military die.
*notion, he could sot an why the officers of the Queen's
service should not have the opportunity Riven them ef pin.
beg their way to similar distinction Re had even sees it
stated that the odors of the British service were divided
into two dosses—'• the initiated," who were too old to
do anytbiag; and "the know•nothings," who were
too young to know anything. (Laughter.) net was not a
fair mode of bringing oat the proper merits of the army.
He held the opinion that they oug t to avail themselves of
those services which were best calculated to advance the in.
tweets of the country, and that there was so reaeos why
every well educated officer should not have the opportunity
of gaining distinction. He was not narrow misded enough
to think that say distinction ought to be mode in the maw
tips of Atom from this service or the other, and he hoped
le me the day when all those distinctom would be dose
away with. (Hear, hear.) But the noble earl must know
that there were difficulties in this, as there were in all
natters of detail and reform; and he mast know that them
reforms required to be affected slowly, is or.irr to be
anted surely. The disposition of the goverment I. India
In the matt. r was 'efficiently evinced by the appointment
to the nice of ociannander-in•chief in India of an odor of
the Bast India Company's service. The noble earl had
alluded to the staff appointments in India. He was
given to understand that the circumstance referred to
wee more the result of accident than anything else. It
happened in this way. The staff appointments in India
wen so summates, and were filled by the officers of the
ladies army so very much to the detriment of the perform.
eats of regimental duties la the "nay, that it was found
:de= the
to roan some of time eaters to regimental duty,
places So vacated with einem from the
Inglish away. The qpines as to the booty paid to re-
mote had been bromine wider his anodes by the Coo
mender.bi-Chief, who Ind "eked whether be Wended to
oneesioe the seas be dm the ems 'MOO under the
act lately penal as wee gall Mabee Wised osier the ant
of 1847. After modiestag the eseedes—takiug
Into view that the men NOW wader the eat of 1847 were
enlisted at the age of 1 end IPSO Delisted he to or *lens
pers, especially in Os end tee cavalry—that they
eit=i
had the opportunity of an addition to their pay,
and that they had also no opertseity, at the end of their
first eagagenest, ef ondhlies he awned period—takieg
alai late eos•Meraties tees sou of these Oneness
would estrus to the men Mimed at the age ef
twenty. tear, who were only serving he two, or
at the unmet fee term. fusee— he thought that, is order
te get sees el the ap ef It to 35 roes, wham Obits and
stoup le Wen sespiseede isemed, who were secriesuily
takes from the labor la which they were employed, and
she, if set well.drObel soldiers, were at all events ea&
neatly string nee, end men likely to made good 'Wien—
be thought that they aught not to give sash mena lower
man liessey then they gave to the boy of 18. Bat aces
ef these 'moonset', ea tee 'kohl* earl was perfeetla
........ dednits or iavarlable—they might be
hoe time to time ; and if he found that their
weektag was such as to mote diffraltv, or to leases the
eaketmeat of youths resraited from 18 upwards, he would
thee take into masideraties whether he should lot alter the
rate of begat,. With regard to the general Woos of
booty, be perfectly agreed with the noble out This
would be a necessary step, in order to Olen an lanneweed
number at recruits; and very probably before long be
might haw to promo to their lords, ips to increase the
booty, in Grebe to norms the Bushels of the away Butit
woo naturally his wish, I. these times of difficulty sod
financial pressure, sot to opened more than was actually
necessary for the perms. It wee perfectly comet that a
seeps of navvies was to be employed, ass for the purpose of
eroding la the oohs% is the noble sari supposed, but to
eaevyes the work of the army which wee essay miff:lined
by the moms and misers, and Is On* that body bad
bees efteged very mob to the prejediee of their beelth.
Yet weft of this deseription mast be dose; Gael le ceder to
get it peifeemed, sad at the same time to carry out the
view 'whisk he in mom with the noble earl estertalsed,
M keeping se men la the ranks ef the may se pea.
Ale, It had e.rmWty seemed to bin the the best so ne
wend be to &beak IOW" o_snips a Andy of the..
navvies, who were iessil, ~weed mes, gad she, being
mat eat to the Orliok
_weell be eimPleywf hi me awry'
ne might be regelrsd of them wide the Asp gen
Hassel, sad is host al the army who the army
leek VW field. He cis Ss son had twee deed
he the salary of the .genet Beat of this ore;
see had any defines NM NI yet bees heed me
the psymeat ef the saes. Be the sone led mei
be well swan that It wee any isapendlie to open that
less went woe hem 'IA IND @Mbar hi 04
eser "(labeling'. er is no of emessistesdests
61W°Glire 1" nigh Illffillintee wee time Ono genelles gad
slime et be! onise. Me'shoeffill esehaveur le
Osten peeper eall:Pla r the lowest monis
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