The Express.
London, England, 1863-03-10 00:00:00

ENGLISH POLICE IN POLAND.

Mr. HENNESSY asked the Secretary of State for the
Home De t *hither, after the skate of siege had
been proclaimed in Poland, the Russian government applied
to her Majasty'a government for the service of two English
detectives, fcrrth*struetionof the Rumen police in Poland,
aid, whether, in compliance with that spoliation, her
Majesty's government soot Superintendent Walker and
Inspector Wisher, of the A diviaion, to Warsaw dewing the
months of August and September, 1862.
Sir G. GREY—I have Soviets that neither after the state
of siege had been proclaimed I. Poland, nor at any other
time, did the Russian government apply to her Majeety's
government for the service of any English detectives for the
instruction of the Russian police in Poland. But that
is not the answer which I wish to give to the honourable
gentleman, for it would not be entirely fair and
candid. I have to state in answer to the
second question that two officers—the superintendent
sad inspector named—did go to Warsaw in the month of
August list, either the circumstances, and for the purpose
which I will briefly state, and when I have made that
statement perhaps he will be satisfied that they did not go
for the purpose which is rather implied than expressed in
the terms of him question. I may be allowed, perhaps, to
state that I have found that few things have attracted mom
the attention of intelligent foreigners in this country than
the maintenance of public order, and the protection of life
and property by means of the police, a force exclusively un-
armed, and acting on all ordinary occasions without
any seriatim' from the military—(hear, hear)—
each member of the police force acting under
regulations authorised by law and amenable to the ordinary
tribunals of the country for any ex ere of authority or any
violation of the law. The feeling excited among foreigners
by the observation of these feria has led from time to time
to numerous applications from the represeatatives of foreign
governments to this country fur full information as to the
organisation of our polka, the principles on which it is esta-
blished, and the details of its management. That informa-
tion has at all times been freely given without reserve,
as we have no secrets in our police system, and
the ob.ect of the applications being, as we un-
derstood, an endeavour to improve the police of
foreign countries by the staimilatioo, as far as circum-
stances would permit, of their system to our own. In the
month of July last I received a private letter from the
Russian ambassador in this actuary, in which he informed
me that the Grand Duke Consisatise had, daring more
than one visit to Ragland, been particularly 'track by the
results of that system and its management. It further
stated that the Grand Duke, having been recently charged
with the affairs of Poland, was extremely desirous to effect a
reform in that breach of the public service in Poked
by placing it as needy as possible on the footing
of the system of the English police, with the
view, at the earliest possible period, of petting an end to
martial law in Pam& and for that purpose be requested
that not a detective. bet an intelligent officer of the metro-
politan police, might bep/aced in personal commanicatios
with the authorities at WILTIIIIW, and give them the fullest
information as to the organisation of our police, in order if
partible that the desire of the Grand Duke might be me-
ocinsplithed. I think that this desire of the Grand Duke
Ormestatethe was highly heeourable to him : and that if he
secomplithed It be would courier one of the greatest boons
oe the people of Poland. (Hear, hear.) With that view
I informed the Chief Commissioner of Police of the letter
I had nesived from the Russian ambearidor, and
I authorised him to comply with the request by sending an
officer to Warsaw for the single purpose of communicating
to the local authorities that information which had been
repeatedly given to every foreign government applying for
it. The Commissioner of Police, acting in accordance with
a general rule, thought it desirable that instead of one that
two should go. They went, Lidos with them the form of
the rules and regulations for the management of the police,
and they communicated with the local authorities of War-
saw and gave such personal information as was asked of
them. Having done that, and their duty being performed,
they returned to England as soon as one of them was able
to undergo the journey. lam only sorry that the object
for which this information was sought and given was not
attained; but unfortunately the local authorities of War.
maw, after considenog the subject, informed those officers
that in their opinion the English police system, however
much adapted to a country like England, was not adapted
to Poland at present. (Hear, hear.) It is certainly deeply
to be regretted that the elements did not exist in Poland for
maimilating their polioe system to that in England. (Hear.)
Mr. AYRTON said the right hoe. baronet had not stated
whether that was done before or after it came to the
knowledge of her Majesty's government that an insurrection
had brokers DOM Warsaw.

Sir G. GREY—It was keg before the recent events oc-
curred in Poland. The letter was dated in July, and the
men went on the 6th of August.
Mr. HENNESSY asked whether the right hon. gentleman
would lay on the table hie letter from the Russian amber
sador, making the application. He should also like to ink
him or any other member of the government when they
would lay on the table the despair* they had received from
the conaul-general at Warsaw relating to the atrocities
lately oommitted by the Ittasian police in Poland.
Sir G. GREY—The letter from the Russian ambeamdor
is marked "confidential," and wiliest his permission I
meld not think of laying it on the table. I have so know-
ledge of the despatch to which the hoe. gentlemen has re-
ferred. It would not be in my department.
Sir H. VERNEY should like to see the huitrnotioas
given to the police oe going to Warsaw.
Sir G. GREY—Ne written Matsu:lions were given to the
police. After I had personally conferred with the com-
missioner of pollen I placed the matter in his hands. The
object for which these permits went out was clearly defined
and understood, and I am sure they performed their duties
strictly within their imereenom. (Hear, hear.)