The Express.
London, England, 1852-11-12 00:00:00

THE ADDRESS.

The SPEAKER then stated that the house had been to
the House of Peers, where her Majesty had been pleased to
make a most gracious speech. The right hon. gentleman
then read the speech (fur which toe lord: report).
Lord LOVAINE then rose, and 'poke as follows:—In
rising to move that a humble address be presented to her
Majesty in reply to the gracious speech which has just been
read from the chair, I confess I wish the task had tallest
upon some abler, more experienced, and more talented
member of this house, who would have been enabled to
give due weight to the many important topics that have
been named; but, sir, I feel more embarrasemeut when I
think that the first subject of that ape ech is one that will
speak to the affectionate regard, the regret of every man
that calls himself a native of Great Britain. (Cheers.) 1
allude, of course, to that part of the speech in which, with
her usual kind and affectionate regard to the wishes of bee
people, her Majesty invites us to join in a provision for the
funeral obsequies of the late Duke of Welling-
ton. Sir, I believe the house will excuse me if
I approach with awe the event which has cast • shadow of
grief and dismay over this mighty empire—the quenching
of that light which, for nearly half • century, has been the
beacon to light every Englishman in the path of duty and
honour. (Hear, hear.) No obsequies that we can give, no
funeral pomp that we con bestow, east be adequate to ex-
press the love and admiration which this house, this country,
bears to that immortal man. And, sir, that love was not
founded upon the mere evanescent and vulgar admiration
lot vulgar glory. It was not that his brilliant military
career in India had already given to England the supremacy
of that continent; it was not that, from time to time, he
had raised the name and glory of England to the highest
rank among the nations; it was not that, among his other
victories, he finally became the conqueror of the conqueror
of the world ; it was not to this so much as it was that
because, not dazzled or blinded by the brightest effulgence
of thou glories, and andeafened by the voice of victory, he
way able to descry the true end and object of war—an
honourable and • luting peace. (Cheers.) When
he had brought this country out of the most
tremendous struggle that ever nation was engaged
in, fur existence, as well as for victory, he turned all
the power which his mighty successes had iiiven him ti
effect the permanent establislimentof the pacification which
his arms had obtained, and that by every means of conci-
liation, and by every council of moderation, that was con-
sistent with the honour of this country. (Cheers.) How
well he succeeded the history of the last 37 years will tell.
Sir, we loved him becarse, though he was the intimate and
the counsellor of all the monarchs of Christendom, he
used his power for no purposes of selfish aggrandisement ;
but ho took his station among us, content to prove himself
the most faithful subject of the Crown, and to place his
ambition in being the most devoted protector of the rights
and welfare of his fellow citizens. (Cheers.) I believe his
political opponents will bear me witness that his counsel was
always ready in the darkest day of danger and difficulty,
and that they could rely upon has honour and integrity, no
less than upon his sagacity, to perceive the path of safety
which was hidden from less gilled eyes. kCheers.) Ills '
name will descend to posterity as an example, not
only of a great statesman—of the greatest war-
rior but as a colossal example of unswerving
obedience to the call of duty, of truth, of fidelity, an: of
honour. (Cheers.‘ Sir, 1 thank God that he went down
to the grave undinimed in intellect,—eonscious of the love
that his country bore him,—conscious how well he d served
that love,—couscious also that he had performed his last
duty in warning that country against the danger arising
from the intoxieation of security into which her very peace
and prosperity had plunged her. (Hear.) I thank, sir,
when we clues the tomb over his remains, when we have
left him in his glory, it will become us to consider his last
warnings, to recollect that we have no longer that name
which was ever an omen of victory and terror to our
enemies, a lion in the path of the boldest which they never I
would have dared to approach, and so to prepare fur that day
of advenity which comes to nations as well as to inch-
' viduals. (Hear.) It is time for me to quit this subject. I
am well aware that I cannot adequatey represent either the
feelings of this house or of the country ; but I do trust
that the house will manifest their sympathy with the man-
ner In which I have endeavoured to pay this last
tribute to the memory of so great a man. (Cheers.)
Passing to the next topic in the Speech, I perceive
that her Majesty graciously acknowledges the readi-
ness with which the population of this kingdom have
come forth as volunteers for the defence of the country.
Though I was not a number of the house at that time, I
perfectly recollect the evil auguries with which the bill that
pa-std at the beginning of last session was received ' • how
it was told us that Englishmen, inapt for war, were disin-
clined to undergo the necessary discipline, and would be
unwilling to come forward as volunteers. The paper I
have here is an answer to all these all, gallons. I believe
the total number to be raised is calculated nt 60,00). In
the short apace of six weeks—and hardly so much has
I elapsed since the beginning of the enrolment of these
I volunteers-30,0100 men have been already enrolled for the
defence of their country. And I think it but just to read
to the house the names of these counties which have
furnished their full quota of volunteers, many of whom are
now in training. They are—Bedfordshire,
_Buckingham-
shire, Dursetaltire, Ewes, Glonceitershire, Hereferdshire,
Hertfordshire, Huntingdonshire, Lincolnshire, London,
Nottina:tantshire, Oxturds'ire, Denbighshire, anal Mont-
gomery,laire. I can berali hum personal exptrit tide to the
great aptitude and facility, the great good conduct, and the
very remarkable efficiency, of those volunteers now iu the

field have shown In the use of arms; and t can
vat° also from my own experience, that it astonion;
thine who, like nie, have paned the first part or
their life in the service of the regain arms
The noble lord proceeded to observe that, it the
tree'':
sit y for the defence warto bear any proportion to the
value of that which was to be defended, there bee".
a country which stood au much in used of defence as this
For besides the overflowing wealth and immense preseerit;
and commerce of the country, there were treasures to la
protected which in eateat exceeded almost the wailed dreams of the poet. And when they considered the nu.
meow competition which this wino of w slab had given
rise to, and the consequent rise in the value of labour which
has caused the poorer classes to enjoy a degree of comfort
unknown, he believed, in the history of England—when
they remembered these things one was lb, MOSS strut k at
the patriotism which could induce aro many men to accept
the slender pittance paid for its defence. The
noble lord then adverted to the institution of the um,.
tie, and congratulated the house upon the seen s of Oat
, measure so tar us it has gone. The American fishery gees.
lion end the paragraph relating to Cuba were nest r, vi...d.
and both subjects afforded him natter for amisfoctiou.
After expressing a hope that Van Dietnen's Lied would
won etaw to be • penal colony, hie lordoinp chap
to the great qucetion of the comic, rend
of the country. •By drawing a distinction Leo,
ej;
free trade and the abolition of the duties on corn, healers,*
believed, mid war ready still to assert his is poet, ti;,,
if the returm of the tariff had abolished all I,,,,h,hdise
duties, levying duties only fur the purpose of ',vim,
would have been a judicious and unexceptinualde
But the abolition of the chitty on ern stood 011 an tior
footing—it must be argued on other princifles mid as, r„)
on other ground.. When a measure was paned it 11411.11
Wisen the corn law was repealed he applied
to the consideration of the elf, et 01 that repeal e,i th
clash. which were inset obnoxious to injury, mid lie 10ui,4
that the repeal of the corn law did ihfitet injury and
feting on a most important class, but lie hound
cording to the statement of those who, as subsid,
wholly by labour, were the best qualified ti judge,
they had received its the abolition of Om corn low great atol
practical benefit. (Cheers (tom the opporoition.) lh. a—
fore, whilst tie came to the conclu•kaa time it wouid he
proper, vs wed as impolitic, to retrace the eteps of ti„,,
commercial policy, he belt it to he his deity to turn 1,,,
teotion to modes of relieving that suffering elass tn.o
as many bunko, as possible, and to removing as to .sy
of thine restrictions es possible which had fettered to, at
in the arena of competition with foreign eountri•
lie did not think the borne ought or indeed would tore S
deaf ear to any class of Englishmen whim they lelieved
had just cause of complaint. lle believed there were many
gentlemen on both sides of the house representing load,
and important constitueucies who were ready to raise their
voice in this direction. Sufferinds suen as 11111011 he was
referring to were not alluded to for the first hole in the
speech. tram the throne. They had been wectioned whin
there were at the head of affairs men w, u Wero the tn.,,t
opposed to the old system. But he lisped that by pursuine
a conciliatory policy they might be able t i heal the breach
that had been made, and prevent those disoensious betweea
claes and class, and interest and interact, which were so in.
jonquil to all. (!fear, hear.) Ile conceived th • house
would certainly think it to be their duty to hear Minitel
the coneilietury policy recommended in her Majesty's spas te.
That house was the place in which the wrongs ut Ifirodoi.na
were ever redressed. And he hoped it would centime. •o
to be. It was so in times of old, twat that period, value tie
agricultural interest was most powerlul in this country, sad
yet were subject to diving., they 1114 re relived at the u..'
gallon of the manufacturing, the commercial, and the ids:;-
ping interests. The statute book teemed with motto:lit...a
of that kind. Ile had only farther to repress a ho,e the.: I
punning a conciliatory policy, those differences end disoc.
shoos between various claws would cease, and tied ititil :a-
u:mai coedit ion of the country bore witi.e.sty they. d tee ..i.?
between elms and clan au its external condition would •,or
testimony to the wealth and prosperity of the people. (Heir,
hear) With regard to Ireland, it it were possible ti id.ay
the evils under which she had been labouring, he thought
the minister who could perform that task would .arn the
praises which hear.n and earth bestowed anon the pore.
maker. Ile would uuw conclude by moving the addles,
thanking the house fur the induigenee which had lo,s
shown to him, and expressing his grateful sense of the la.
tience and attention which it had displayed in listenita
this his first attempt to address it. (limn, hear.) Toe
noble lord then read the address, which was merely an icon
of the royal speech.
Mr. EUERTON, in seconding the motion, sh ut,d to
the principal topics of her Majesty's speedo, dwelliee aim
upon that portion relating to the irreparable Imo suatioacd
by the country in the death of the Duke of Wellington—
a great man who had carried the same ability and coal
which had distinguished him as a military commander,
into the civil services of his country; and had reached a
pitch of greatness unexampled in peace or war. Payne'
by some of the topics which hail been touched upon by nis
predecessor, he particularly pointed out 11110 which Lad
not been noticed—he alluded to the paragraph in the my 4
speech relating to the proposed scheme for' he educationof the
labouriug classes. It had been the privilege art two preeediait
ministers—one to get cheap food for the people, and tac
other to improve their sanitary condition ; and it was the
boast of the present government to effect the great goad of
educating the laborious classes in the arts by which I:, y
lined. In conclusion, the bon. member &lorded with great
pleasure, and aelmidst the especial spplause of the opp
lion side of the house, to one great fact contained in Gar
speech—the undoubted fact of the general prosperity of the
country. While, however, it could nit be denied that it
was through the present commercial syatem that the
tpLoeplethaattltahregrce hwa,aitoenheeapp.
through the same causes; and these surely were totolid
to relief. ratniedulauriticLsientwfl7l4erite rthisilego

Mr. VILLIERS said he hoped the house would not
deem it presumptuous in him that at that early period ante
evening lie rose to address to it a few obaervatious on the
subject of the address and on what bad fallen Irons the his.
gentlemen who moved and seconded it. Ile could assure
the house that it wail with great reluctance be rose to
address it on this occasion, because he entirely agreed with
those who thought that it was desirable on all uCCalautif of
receiving messages and speeches tram the throne, that the
responses to them should be unanimous. That was the
feeling of the house generally, and more especially of late
years it seemed to be the practice of parliament. But
it depended on the discretion or the decision of
ministers what tune might be taken, or what taro might be
given, to the discussion en the address, because ministers,
being responsible for the speech, having the selection of the
topics contained in it, having the eboice of the friends who
were to expound the policy of the government, and know.
tog the desire of the house to be informed of the news of
the goverment respecting the condition of the country, the
state of foreign relations, and the policy to be adopted at
home, there could be no amendment proposed to the ad-
dress, or angry discussion take place, Ulll,ll ti.ere
was WOW omission of matters on what the house
desired to be informed, or some statement cf
policy which it might be deem d dc..irahle to oppotc.
It was under these circumstances that he rote to romphou
somewhat of the address which had been moved that
He did not say that he complained of much that was
contained in it. There were in it matters which spoke tie
themselves, facts on which they all agreed, and in which
he rejoiced. First of all he might sp•-uk of the referent
made to what he might term the national bereavement:
and he was sure that that house would respond to every
thing which related to that great man, that great mind.
which had left them, with the greatost cordiality and the
deepest emotion. (Hear, hear.) But there were me
other matters of deep interest to the country at large. and
on which it had been anxiously look ithr for same iutorma-
tion on that occasion. They had met there at a very no
usual season ; and there was not a man assembled there.
and hardly a man in the country, who had not in-
quired wherefore they were mumbled. The circum-
stances were so notorious under which the last
parliament was dissolved, and under which the pre-
sent one was assembled, that it was hardly uredhil
fur him to refer to them; but in order to establish the
ground on which he intended to complain of what he
considered defective information in the pouch, it Ins
necessary just to mention what occurred; and this
brought him back to the formation of the present iz oymr
meat. It was vrell•known that when the government se-
ceded to power, there was an avowal on the part et MS
new minister that he held opinions which he was not vd•
ling to abandon, and which he admitted were at variant
with those of the majority of the House of
' (Cheers.) That minister—he alluded to the first wints:er
of the crown—admitted the justice of the doctrine, that it
was not constitutional for any ministry to lohninhttr the
government of this country who., opinions did not crall•
ride with the majority in that house. (Cheers.) "
he said, ° Without abandoning my opinions, and 'sena'
doing violence to the constitution, I am willing id tale a
course which I think will be approved by all men viola
existing circumstances. I will not interfere with the laci-
ness which is required to be done in this house ; I will out
the country to as littler inconvenience vupoo•ilde ; last
will dissolve this parliament, I will take the opinioa of
the country, I will ascertain with the least possible delay
whether or not my opinions coincide with those of the alk
joeity of the electors, and whether or not, therefore. I am
fit person to govern the country." (Hear, hear.) Noe:
these were the facts, and they were met at that %mown
season in consequence of a declaration Of the winter that
he would leave it to the country whether he was tit to bie
at the head of affairs. There were two wan in which
the difficulties admitted and avowed by the midoto
might have been overcome. One was that the supra!'
in that house should coincide with the minister;
the other
that the minister should declare some chaotic of opinion on
his own part. (Hear, hear.) They were all assembled that
evening, and the country generally believed that they
met for the purprwe of 'mentioning whether that non'
cidence existed. They had looked to the Fla.rch, and they
, had listened to the mover and seconder of the adi!reet to
ascertain whether there was a coincidence of opinioe u be"
tween the majority of that house and the present 110":".
mutt, and he complained that they had no information on
that subject. There was • paragraph which referred to the
subject on which a difference of opinion had resisted,
namely, the commercial policy of the country;
there was• reference both to recent legislation
I and to the present condition of the people; but
I he could not had a clear, diatinrt, iutelligtb,e, avowal
on the part of her Majesty's government tint they
bad they given no uauranoe that in no way wool they
were reconciled to that policy. (Hear, hear.) 11 by
attempt either to reverse or to mu lily it, and that the nun•
try might rest assured that it would be permanent ? (Hear
bear.) In order to relieve himself from any charge of pre-
sumption in intruding himself thus early en the hoit.e.7
ask:rig for t xpl in., ions which were not needed, lie li
_tried
leave to state to the house—a house containing many min-
bers who were not in the lest perlientent—that, from the

streoft • tiled which he had taken fur many years in this
on the Ent met ssiou it' this government to power,
kmo•
vieg the *plaint.. which they had propounded, known,'
part abed' they hart taken throughout
the ceautry rs connemning the policy which now
eiicted, and the pledgee, he might my, which
eji„.y hail also µives to revere* that policy—
licend—he l'ecl an apprtbeiision tracey erhuld, on
weeding to poser, use the A 111.41130.4 iuthi which their
rmaija as a government gave them to tarry out their '
views, and that they scald make some attempt if not to
/masa et leant to mollify, chi it policy. lie therefore put
wrio, of modem ou the paper in the last parliament
welch hosed the government to a continuauco of the
moting ivory been regatta, to de SO by sea.
b.r. erert helm nee, because representing vast 'lumber*
et tin .r tellow.country men in that house; but at the ess,
gu‘st et that party who succeeded in changing the evile-
st. Te1..1 policy of the country, and at the ri qu, at of the
wha:. he creamed to withdraw that notice after the
sp. ch 01 the First Minister of the Crown, essented to by the
mitoetsre to that house. That s;n'rch was to the effect
11111411 It, had mated. The First Minster avowed that
he Ira. in a lunar ity in that house. and declared
th i• lie would take the opinion of the country. On them
'rund. he (Mr. WI. re) withdrew the notice. lie
ensuoisly awaited the Resembling of • new parlianii nt, for
the purpose of hAWITIIt this matter decided, b,: awe it um
tho protein:, the ansurence of the minister at that time that
he afield call an earl, session for the purpose of deciding
W M it. (War, hear.) Nobody could do doubt the importance of
the nubject ; it was appreciated ma all shit', whatever view
• otherwise he taken of it. Ron. gentienhn oppoeite
had s +el th it unless the tenting policy was reveleed, Of as
k.Ot inevitable ruin must follow. They (the
oppunition) had declared it was their opiniuu that the well-
being of the country was contingent on its contieuante.
The minister of the cuown said—" This is a matter of
to., great importance to be left unsettled; it shall be des
ceded, and decided homily, so that every moo in thin country,
and in the world, may feel assured as to what the root-
stsereial policy of this touter/ will be." It was for this
purporc, to he understood, that they were assembled at
this unusual 4,000 of the year; cud he rose, not to depsat
from is hat he knew to be the custom of that house, and be-
lieved to he thew inh of members Ken, rally, namely, that of
avoiding an emends:mat to the address,—that was not his
purity/m-Ind he 'lashed to call uric mien to the fvet, that kaput
that consent 11111 .114 no, know whether or Ant the milit-
ate fit of the morn hod et, manned their opist.ons on the
subject of protec!son. (phm., hear.) Ile did assert, and
in doing to he was supported by the opinion of
the Mat 1.01441ef of the Cro.ll, that it was essential
that this 111.1ttfa should b. decided. it could not he de-
rided by coincidiug with the address. The language was
vague (Cistern.) lie would be very sorry to iutroduce
ans thieve like an angry diecunsion on that occasion, but he
=heat almost say it was deceptive. (Hem, hear.) Thum
was an ailavion to the great prosperity of the industrious
thassee, hut there was alro an allusion to measures fur the
Prowl .1 iudidtry. Why, if the industrious closers wire
well off and satisfied, what was the meaning of a declass-
ea. a that mouthing should be done foe industry ? (11e4r,
heir.) it was an opinion coutertained on that side-of the
Mom by all aho had advocated the policy of fire trade
that iti dection was an unqualified mischief, that nut
on,y .44 it an CUOMO./ mischief to the community
at large, but that it was even injurious to the
111•4001, sqitpused SO he protected. But when the question
ineoltt il el.o the protection of what was called the landed
interest, to talk of prottetirg the ithlustry of the coubtry
by return/ a 0400.111A111 01 Mod, he should hardly like to
AAA h..t he thollitht such talk as that. (lieu, boar.)
It w a almost an insult to the people of this country to talk
of soy pa non being injured by the removal of the greasiest
it oil IMAM* which had been Inflicted upon the commit.
miy. (Bear, hear.) But the o hole phraseology of the
p.megrai.ti was indistinct, vague, and coafased ; and it de-
pended on the tone and views of hen. gentlemen on the
opp...de cute of the house shot Mice?... :Afton was
to be put upon it by the house generally. Th..re
VIA nit ation made of recent legislation. Why not
use pain English? Wuy was not the language
ietelliµsulr? (lieu, hear) If great advantages had had
1.440 ft aped by the working classes from the repeal of
the rn /.1410, why not state it?—(cheers)—and It any
',jury was d:ne to anybody by repealing the corn laws, let
Thum have that made clear, distinct, and unequivocal.
(il, sr, tutor) They (the opposition) would have the deci-
sive of toe Inia-e on that matter—(ebeen)—end he had only
rises now for the purpose of stating that he, for see, having
takun a great interest in this subject, and believing that
racer, who had taken a for more effective part, would agree
w,th bun, was dimatisficd with the statement made as to
the coos •of the ',resent condition of the country. (Hear,
hear.) They wanted to know distinctly what were the
*einem. 0;* her Majesty's government on the great question
which 1 41 le en in dispute—the retire of prime:tine or free
trade; mid without Nether chtaining the house, he begged
leave must distinctly to give notice that ho &humid submit
the matter to the house—(cheers)—that he should put the
question on so clear and intelligible a footing that their
fellow-countrymen out of the house would afterwards feel
no doubt with regard to the future. He believed that the
of the present mouth would be about the most mince-
stout day fur taking the opinion of the house on that sub-
ject. (Loud cheers.)
There was here a pause, during which were heard occa-
sional cries of "Booker,' which elicited laughter. The
Swatter was about to put the question, when
Mr. 111: VIE rum to address the house. lie said he had
waited with great patience in the hope that, accerilieic to
custom, some hon. gentleman opposite would rise to answer
the 'previa of the hon. ginticman who had just spoken.
Hem hon. friend had given • challenge, but no one seemed
to bane spirit to answer. Why did not hots. gentlemen op-
posite tome forward like men ? (Laughter.) How was it
that none of them had the manliness to stand up and admit
that the acknowledged prosperity of the labouriog classes
arose bum the repeal of the corn laws ? (Hear, hear.? He
breed pardon—the seconder of the address did admit that
—Jut ar, hear)—he was a free trader. (Laughter.) The
government themselves, however, ought to have stated
their views. Having had nine months, which was a long
period— iaughtery —to make up, their minds, why did they
tad Went in intelligible language that they bad
been wroug—(hear, hear)—that they had found by
*apemane that the esisting polity had been
pr eluct.ve of overbalancing advantages to the mass of the
,consunity ? He confessed that he felt deeply disappointed.
Aithough great difference of opinion had existed, he did
Del eve that the government would have the manliness to
avow their error. He liked • fair stand-up battle, and not
a fight from behind hedges, and under equivocal language
and espremions which nobody could understand. The coun-
try demanded • decision of the question. Ile had met
with a groat many farmers who had not only made up
their minds that the change was good for the country, hut
who mid that they would be sorry to go back to prottchon ;
but there were others who looked for some secret mea-
sures by which farmers were to be benefited; and
fur the sake of such persons, it was absolutely
necessary the question should be decided. (Hear, hear.)
While he agreed with his hon. friend that it was cot
desirable that there should be an amendment, the address
being regarded ma • compliment to her Majesty, he had to
template of none 01010414/113 in the royal speech. The pre•
ceiling parliament declared by a vote that there were certain
Lases in existence which were most unjustly and anoma-
lously levied, and thit the time had arrived when there
should be • general revision of 'metiers. That was, he
believed, a wise declaration; but the speech did not contain
one word in reference to the question. Dial the govern.
meat mean to oppose or shrink from Inquiry with r
to the incometaz, which, in the words of the right hon, ,
gentleman (Mr. Disraeli) amounted is many cases to
confiscation of property ? He hoped the government
would state whether this OnSWIOU arose from
scudint or from • determistatios not to preppie
with the question. There was another onsissiao. He
had anticipated that the govoramsat would declare
thimaelves opposed to any farther parliamentary reform.
Why had they not taken the purities- mensied by Lord
Derby io another place, when be dealseed it to be his inten-
tion to oppose any farther ezteashes of what were termed
popular right/4, and whim be mewed the democratic
mmaples of the noble teed (lord J. Russell) 1 (Hear,
has.) If the settle hide meoenres appeared to the noble
earl dangerous, and if he still meant to oppose their enact-
ment, why was mot that stated in the speech from the
throne 1 (Dear, bear.) There wee soother important eerie-
sion. What had become of the clamorous outcry for the repeal
of the malt tax and other taxes which were peculiarly odious
to farmers ? The silence of the speech declared that there
was no intention to repeal them. regretteu chat the
question of taxation was entirely omitted. In conclusion,
he wished to tell hon. gentlemen opposite, if they were
not aware of it, that there was a strong opinion in the
cottony that elections could not be conducted in future as
they had been lately. He wished to see established a regu-
lar representative government ; he wished to see popular
power exercising that influence which it ought to have
in the proceedings of that house, while at the some time the
just privileges of the different classes of society
were properly guarded; and he regretted that in
a time of peace and quiet the government did not
seem prepared to come forward and propose
those reforms which the country required. The question
of free trade must soon be settled one way or other ; and it
would then be time to introduce othee questions of national
importance.
Mr. WALPOLE said—l did net rime, nor did any other
member of the government 'rise, after the observations
which were made by the hon. member for Wolverhamplott
(Mr. Villiers), became it was our duty to see whether any
aniendrocut to the address was likely to be moved hefts,
we gale any opinion in reply to the remarks which fell from
him. As, however, the hon. gentleman did rent move ao
amendment, ask as no one else has risen to do so, it ap.
pears at premed unlikely that say amendment will be
moved ; and I have, therefore, risen for the purpose of re-
plying to the observations which the boa. gentleman has
made. (Bear.) Now, I certainly agree with him, that we are
met together at an unusnal season of the year, and foe a
special purpose. That purpose ungasetiooably is, that the
financial sad woramereial policy of this emintry shall be
Sadly settled mad declared. (Cheers from both ebbe of
the boom.) The bon. gentleman oomplaiss that Is Mr
address them is • certain passage referring to the sub*t
whisk is ambiguous; sad I think he nailed it arrive slid
=re. Sat, i can amaze the hem gentle as that we
sad se deeeption was intended by that peregrele
but it has bees weeded earefally is that way—whielt meets
as observation which the hoe. patineas himself has meet
—it has been worded carefully in that way to prevent at this
moment what might possibly be a warm sad healed AM
ousioe, sad we es to avoid the necessity of auy sesswaseent
being moved to the addreee either on Mil err ea that
side of the hose.. The bon, gentleman says, however,
and so does the hon. gentleman the member for Montrose—
(An in "edible obeervatien was here made by Mr. %-iltiers.)
Well, it is in conformity with the usual custom that you
did endeavour to avoid an amendment. 1 think the boss

gentleman himself said it was the custom. I believe it is
reeogiii.ed to be ■ good custom ; and certainly we wished
that as far as possible that custom should be observed on :
the present occasion ; but we are prepared, if you wish to
move an amendment, to take the distention at the pretest
time. (Hear, hear.) Well, now, the hon. gentleman
went on to remark, and so also did the hon. gentleman who
has just sat down, that we tough, to have declared our policy
in the speech, and that we might also to have been pre-
pared with the measures which we intend to pro-
pose. Now, I tell the honourable gentleman that
we are prepared with all those measures. (Minis-
terial cheers.) And I tell him that we intend i
and have always intended to take the earliest opportunity of
submitting those measures to the consideration of the house.
But there arc circumstances with reference to our present
; meeting which have certainly mole it unadvioside that
tlicy should be taken in hand until the funeral oaf the Duke
of Wellington shall have taken place. (An eselamatioor of
" Oh," followed by cheers) As soon as that tribute of
the nation is paid to the greatest of its heroes, my right
hoe. friend the Chauceoor of the Exetoecut r will rise to
bring b. foro the house and the country the views which the
gest rnment take of the financial and commercial policy
which ought to be established in this country. lint I think
there is sufficient in the speech from the throne, and in the
address in answer to it, for everybody to draw this inference
from, that we arc not going to propose to reverse
tie recent legislation a hich has led to those improvements
in the condition of the industrious classes of the commas•

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nit), to which the speech refers. (Loud cheers from the'
opy isition benches) More than this, I think, the house
will hardly expect me to any, because it would, in fact, be
expecting me to announce the different mtlVures, which
my right bon. friend will announce on • future occasion,
and the views which he takes in reference to that subject.
(list, hear.) But I thought it right to make that declara-
tion tu the first instance ; for it is a declaration which the
government intend to abide by; and I do say that
thme nit asures which the government intend to introduce
will be brought forward eu the earliest occasion. (Cheers.)
Lord J. ILUSSELL sand—lt is consoling that on this
oces.ion we have to consider an address which begins by

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condoling with her Majesty ou the loss of that gr. at man
the Duke of Wellington; that we are not obliged to bare a
long debate upon topics on which the house might be
divided, or to hare a division on those topics. Sir, with re.
ep.et to the first part of the address, I certainly will not
attempt to add anything to what has been said by the noble
lord and the lion gentleman who moved and second, d the
addra se. With regard to the Duke of Wallington, I feel
that while it TCOLialill foe the country and for history
to do justice to his great merits, it remains for her
Majesty's ministers, fur the House of Lords end the
House of Cummens, and for the country at large,
to deplore the loss of those counsels which always
inspired that good subject and ardent patriot. It
remains for us, in conformity with the intention of the
crown, to show that we are nut an ungrateful people, and
that we duly appreciate the services which have been
rendered to the country by that illustrious man. (Hear,
hear) Sir, passing from this subject, I um glad to find
that the ministers of the crown can congratulate the country
on the ready coming forward of so many men, amounting,
as the noble lord said, to 30,000, to serve in the militia. I
trust that her Majesty's hopes Isla not be disappointed, and
that tinge men will prove an effectual aid to her Majesty's
regular force,. With reference to any other measures
which may be necessary for the defence of this country, I
has sure that her Majesty's ministers will give them due
seasideration, and that they will propose from time to time
snub measures as they may think advisable, to which I
shall always be ready to give a favourable hearing.
I do not know that there is any oth' r topic either in the
speech or the address to which I need more particularly
allude. But I must say a few words respecting what the
country his impatiently looked for, tamely. some explicit
declaration as to our financial and commercial policy.
(Ile ar, hear) I mutt say th it on this part of the subject I
participate in the disappointment which my hon. friend the
member for %Vulva rhampton has so well expressed. It seems
to me that with respect to our commercial and financial
policy, there were two courses open to the government,
either of which would have been perfectly plain and clear
for the noble earl in another place and his colleagues in the
government. The one was, they might have maintained
the opinions which since 1816 down to the present time, or '
at least until February, 1842, Lord Derby most loudly and
confidently expressed, and from which he declared with
much eloquence and energy that nothing should law hiss',
to shrink. (Hear, hear.) Another course would have hoes
for the government to have stated that they had bees air
taken in all their views, that the country had prospered, and
that the cause of that prosperity was the operation of Wee
measures which they had thought would be nationally
ruinous. (Cheers.) They might have admitted that these
beneficial results were recognised throughout the country,
end maufuEy have declared that they had changed dear
opinions, and were prepared for the future to act according
to the principles which they had hitherto opposed.
(Cheers.) I conceive that they have adopted neither the
one nor the other course, and the house and the country
must be prepared to form a judgment on their declarations.
Instead of either of the courses I have described, we have
a continuance of that perplexity and ambiguity, of that
doubt and hesitation, which for the last nine months have
vexed the country, and made it difficult to gather what was
to b . the real policy of government. (Hear, hear.) If ass
of the ministers appeared to be in favour of free trade, we
had presently from another a deelaration that protection
hail not been abandoned. (Hear, hens.) The Secretary el
State, although he must not say Nat the principle of pro-
tection is a sound one, yet we del bin trpealtlag of the
increase of crime and of the peer wash sad endea-
vouring to throw some slur wpm dm preoperky which
free trade has produced—trying, if pmdble, to induce
the country to depart from the course Ai* it has finally
Wonted. (Cheers.) And wee saw_
Nee enduing
on the
same course to the end, we hews be Ibis adios NMI sen-
tences favourable to free wade, end, it MOM meads in- '
timating an approval of the Juliet, of geosoloa. (Hear,
bear.) To complete the whole, we have soft the address
a noble lord who is a firm adherent of while the
hon. member who seconds him speaks decidedly
for free trade. (Cheers and laughter.) If emit be the air
biguity practised by the government and be adberesils. I
think it is full time we came to a settlement, emd.sla des
words of the boo. member who spoke last—tbet the am-
ines cial and Scandal policy of this country alloold be
finally settled. (" Hear,' and cheers.) Let as then have
some declaration to settle that policy ; let as have SEW de-
claration which shall serve u a poiut of damaged/I:future
ministers of the crown, and enable them eddy SD direct
their policy. (" Hear, bear," and cheers.) The sentry
has been appealed to, and you know the result, and k is for
you, the ministers of the crown to deelaremanfully the feel-
ings and opinions you entertain on this great _ subject.
(Hear.) And when I say " This great subject," it re-
minds me that in the desbtful sentence to which
I have alluded, the im of that subject his been
studiously diminialsed. • Illestrat• the greatness of the
subject, let us see what bee boa dons in the way of com-
surcial and Mandel refine &die*, last ten yews. The
whole system of ow kw inlet yid* the eeuntry had
endured for so oomilimollosilookboobsoutilolly repealed.
A tariff of exorbitant dodo les iota oldweal within mo-
derate limits. Our taxes haw en ezteneiv•
system of revision, sad when hen, opposite talk
if robin of sazasisn ea a moil. ft Asir lakedastien. I
told& Nola thos astooldegoilloollea hoe bell=
sa INN deo Ono Oki iert rm. MI lio Imo
la la wok a way, that wide the tom watt ati=y
—eakinagir for a meow* Laving a will la OD
evensulered the room by die posed boomer they
onomodeated to the wood Womb 0 the country.
(Mom boar.) Let so all Is ON, that is differential dut
Ilida NPR bat bees stediall, waft people of England
haws onsamed MAN toes of wipe in the year at a
seat of deo =kik= Nes than
_tog would have paid had
wdaty ontisnal as before. (IWO I may add that the
onsnoption Omar bee so isisroood that the noose et
Os Woad ratio wili in a few yew be doable what it was
WMto Ow radandoa et th,riar/Add to this ON we
the navigati oa laws god I haw meeme.
wad a whole systems, I will say mat of great impede
aose—bat Okra as a thaw
_ef oak/ adiglad by a groat
above than whisk NOW dose the rook-
tiraolularallill los boa nen *oe to its effects, net way
mmettle may, bat epos of all
otiose. (Hear, hors) a was
not eae of those why was aNiguin to that
dee asenwat we declared fee boo Oak Nome
don. el the nations of the world weell him env example;
yet, ea tbs ether hand, it is my egediewa belief that, if
this seestry eratisess is flourish =Au dr gam of fro
wads. if its goommisats dolma thoundon sod led with
the woorgewasse, sad that they mom he posevom then
is no nodes Net A go% by kagnemt ilionseloo, one at
last to the esinetwdswe le wbilb we have onived,o that
ultimately thew will be deohod, set oily a great Noose
' of the wealth, bat of dos VMS Gad bormosy of the would.
(Cheers.) Welt. thea.if sea No Oa hapartance of the or
tem, if soh be the pawky of the doe ; and if, on die
other hand,tbsee On way person' whip still matetaie that**
system of free eanmembi podgy Is injurious, it Is eat
to esey ot it that it is wee/ die nonuse—pettimasia • a
header other saiww—(shooes)—by which
=.l this freariroy have 11111Sbili gram and kapertent
I dim am bee MalloWe *Mow meet awl ft
mit tat swides la this way —heed doies)—that limo
ewe
osskne a =be to avvid
eat par edldeies es thijimsest
oweTr
Oemidewe No Wipliolt IS Os lowilloo (Rear, oar.)
weowts
Ito Oita goalloom ski in in again says Oat
Ono lb no latindon la llama Os en to ro-
w* Is Os pokey ihst groins to 1814. I was
wry glad to he that ; but there are amain
ersolein the wipe to whisk allneloa Nos bees made shoat
aidedol prop sad ardisisi prisms, abide we only the grin-
olgb of proteWien disguised in rodeo way. Therefore It le
otowsoy that we *bold have esatorkiag clear and added
mad Oat we should sot allow eumelme to he en la
ow slam wawa in which the Charodke of the
=.1..a1k0 awns gellosse we have reed of lire to be wer-
(Lerobter.) The speech end wkleos amigo&
a stateN of Ireland,
_and I ass glad to on rosooneade
tbewisptiori of a liberal course of polio, loworillo that '.wa-
ry, but in a previous portion of 1100 pengsagh Oben are
deli Is which I am enable to Mimi • wan usehatag. I
sus those which refer to an "bit ef inealtaidi-
egikhee sad torbeleses is that , There were la-
ic& and terbelinee In I *miss the shades
nahp
=11411:16.14j net been decided, but lbws is any spirit el
Imiordinatiot and tarbeleses lathe* iniewry at present,
'r a statement to which I am set prepared to give
soy novae (.. Hen" frees the Irish members.) I believe
that with a due sad proper sweeties of the law the state
of Ireland may be considered to be • state of triusgeillity.
(Hear, hear.) And I must say that I trust that that weer
try, baying suffered so severely from famine is ISt, I, nor
0,,,„t in some 111,11111fe to recover, us there are romans'
which encourage us to hope that at length the labourite ef
- --"ad will obtain that reward for their labour el width'