The Express.
London, England, 1862-04-04 00:00:00

FRIDAY EVENING, APRIL 4, 1862.

upon commelice, and thought the proposed commission of I PIER AND HARBOUR ALT AMENDMENT BILL.
inquiry suggested by the Chancellor of the Exchequer might This bill was read a third time and poised.
' auleadments to this bill were considered ..._ I
be of Barrios. INDIA STOCKS TRANSFER BILL
Mr. AYRTON wished to ask whether the proposed
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biome was to extend to all persons that brewed, or only to The 14(dato.
those who brewed far the purpose of sale!
Mr. SIDNEY hoped the right hoe. geatlimma would hi
prepared on Monday next to stale whether he could hold
out coy hope of introducing au improved mode of assessing CHARITABLE USES ALT (1861) AMENDMY.NT
and collecting the income tax. BILL.
Sir J. PAXTON said the right bon gentleman mast This bill was read a second time.
have been much gratified at the reception which his budget CHANCERY REGULATION BILL.
had this year met with. This bill was read &third time and passed_
Mr. PHILLIPS was glad that the budget had been BILLS OF EXCHANGE (IRELAND) ACT
Wrought forward at so early • period of the year, as it AMENDMENT
enabled them to get a clear and counected view of the ex- mr, VANCE obtained leave to brio` to • bill to
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penditure and receipts of the year. The statement of the lbo mummy procedure on Bulb of 1„ohoo;o 0.1"-.11
right boo. gentleman showed how unadvisable it was to Act, 1861.
propose a remiseion of taxation before the financial state- PUBLIC ACCOUNTS.
Inept was made, because if • remission of taxation took The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER propo.el
place at present in one direction, it would involve the woes- that the committee on public accotude ro the present maxim.
(Heart should consist of Sir F. Baring, Mr. E. P. Hormone, Sir s.
bothimertbdatirtet4°Dthe three to days
Willoughby, Mr. Howes, •nd Mr. Walpole. He said that on
Nortlmete, Mr. Peel, Mr. Glyn, Mr. Cobden, Sir H.
silicent4:;wAaboutunel:ldrewl!pinbnuturdnutaift.liretn seemed
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promotes occasions no onehad inquired from what port of the
positive opinion. kiogdom kayo( the members of the committee had beau drive.
There might be committees in which it might he right to
satisfactione themm erecleisari,clauselble, anddthfaire ceuustatterY- study nationality, but in the present case it could he
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ridiculous to take that matter into consideration, the whole
object of this committee being merely to exaruiee audited
Mr. CROSSLEY believed the financial statement of the
amounts, sad to see that all accounts were brought to audit.
right hon. gentleman would be received with satisfaction by
the country, but with the present rate of expenditure be On the DAM ol Mr. Peel, a division took place :
believed that no budget could be made palatable. He Ayes
thought the time was come for the application of the old Nom
watchwords, "peace, retrenchment, and reform." (Hear,
Mr. HENNESSY then moved that the debate be .4.
With r..-- ' " he -- -roved of the action of _ ._ _ . ..._. _.

hear.) . - regardto peace, he approver 0. _
the government ia regard to America and Italy, and hoped
that neutral ground would always be taken in regard to the
disputes between foreign nations. The amount of taxation
was too heavy to be keg endured. The railway traffic re-
turns were decreasing ; the trade of one of the beat custo-
mers of the country, namely, America, had fallen off, sod
the people of the north wars @diaries from the want of the
supply of cotton, and enduring privations in such
a manner se must win the approval of all.
(Hear, hear.) He believed that tho fears of an
Memos of the country by the Emperor of the French
were entirely diem, and that the millions which had ,
been expended in coosequimos were thrown away. He was
of opinion that if countries borrowed money in time of war
they ought to pay it off in time of peace, and with that view
the Chancellor of the Exchequer ought to have an instruc-
tion from the House of Commons to lay by 500,000/. every
year, which was little mare than three times the =pia.
cent titt of Mr. Peabody to the poor of London, in order to
to the national debt. Every 500,000/. laid out for
Gus purpose in terminable annuities would at the end of
100 you', extinguish 10,000,000/. of the public debt.
He believed that the suggestion was worthy of the attention
of the right hon. gentleman, and he trusted it would receive
his consideration.
Mr. NORRIS expressed his concurrence In the propo-
sition of the Chancellor of the Exchequer to readjust the
licenses upon brewers.
Mr. HEYOA.TE said that the figures before the house
showed& deficit for the last year of 1,164,000/., and for the
year immediately. preceding, of 2,558,0007. This he con-
adored an unsatisfactory state of things, and one which
iliqers been guarded against. There had been no un-
. .
on the part of the house to vote supplies, and the
upon expenditure occasioned by the Chinese war had been foreseen.
He hoped that in future the right hon. gentleman the
Ohaneellor of the Exchequer would always set in the pra•
dent way in which be had expressed himself in hie financial
budget this evening, and that he would make • provision
for unforeseen contingencies.
Mr. SLANEY mid in the main propositions of the
budzetbliAzize Hr. Blaney) concurred.
Y thought the statement of the Chancellor
of the Exchequer would be considered highly satis-
factory throughout the whole of the kingdom, and in
Lancashire the people would feel grateful for the right hon.
gentleman's expressions of sympathy for them.
Mr. HOWBffi inquired whether the 12s. 6d. brewer's
license was to be levied on the occupiers of houses of 201.
rent, and of fame of 1501. rent ?
Mr. CRAWFORD asked whether the new wise duties
would come into operation to-day, and whether the report
of the 0001MiPlOOKII to the wine countries would be Lid on
the table
Alderman BALOXONS wished to know whether the
bonds of the Ottoman loan would be taxed ; he also ob.
that the hop duty was not the best item that could
L selected for remiedon. On the whole, however, he felt
satisfied with the financial statement.
Yr. LINDSAY complained of the retention of the penny
dun* or Peebages, and other minor charges.
Mr. MARSH hoped that the repeal of the hop duty
would be shortly followed by the repeal of the malt tax,
and that the tax would be levied direct upon beer.
Mr. S. FITZOERALD understood the Chancellor of the
Exchequer that 193,0004 had been paid to the Chinese
merchants as a moiety of their substantiated claims. He
understood the arrangement to be that they were to receive
half in cash and the other hall in a bill. He wanted to
know how the Chancellor of the Exchequer proposed to
meet the remainder of the claims? Of course ft was sot a
satisfaction to him or to any one else to know that the
estimate. bad failed, but it wax • source of satisfaction to
him to find that his own calculations of last year had been
almost Mutiny fulfilled. He had said list year that
4150,000/. would be received frUM the Chinese, and the
amount actually received after meeting the lose on exchange

must (Loud cries of " Oh.")
The house divided :
Noes
Mr. Glyn's some was then agreed to.
On the name of Mr. Cobden,
Mr. HENNESSY thought the government were to blatit.,
for keeping the house to this late hour. (}Guars of
laughter.) However, out of respect to the leader of th,3
house, the opposition would not be persisted in any
further. (Hear, hear.)
The remaining names, Mr. Cobden, Sir H. Willoughby,
Mr. Howes, and Mr. Walpole were then adopted.
THAMES EMBANKMENT BILL.
Sir J. SHELLEY moved for • return of the estimated
expenditure for carrying into effect the provisions of the
Thames Embankment Bill ; distinguishiog the filet of the
filling-in and the masonry of the embankment, the gross
amount of the compensation far wharfage and river frontage,
the oost of each approach to the embankment, and of each
of the other streets and improvements mentioned in the bill,
including compensation and all other expenses ; also the
cost of the low level sewer, the length of the
embankment and of each street, together with
• plan of the embankments, streets and improvements.
The hon. baronet contended that the inhabitants of the
metropolis ought to have fuller details than they now pos.
Booed with regard to • scheme which was estimated to oust
• million and a half of money.
Mr. CRAWFORD seconded the motion.
Mr. OOWPER said the bill would be referred to a select
committee; and the information which the boo. baronet
wished for would be beet ascertained from the evidence to
be given before that committee.
After some discussion the house was counted; and there
being but TS members present, the house adjourned at a
quarter past '2.

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was 360001.
Sir S. M. PETO said that sines a neighbouring country
had demeled to build no more ships of war this country had
expended above 10,000,0001. sterling upon new veuels, and
3. I IND,OOW. is maintaining those which we had already got.
He had no hope for the Chancellor of the Exchequer, the
house, or the country, with regard to economy of expendi-
ture, except the house itself was prepared to take • biol.
nee like view of these matters, departing from the old
line of routine. (Hear, hear.) Let them look to the past
as • lemon for the future, and then he was sure the Chancel-
lor of the Exchequer might see such an amount of economy
during the ensuing year as would give him a surplus.
Mr. WHITE deplored very much that the Chancellor I
of the Exchequer had thought proper to introduce a twelve
and sixpenny license for private brewing, and he trusted
the right boc gentleman would not be disposed to press it.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said, in reply
to the right hon. member for Stamford (Sir 8. Northoote),
who had asked whether a credit of 600 .would be neces-
sary on account of the Chinese expenditure, that what he
meant to state was riot that a vote of credit would be
necessary, because he believed the vote already passed VW
sufficient in point of form for the purpose—hie intention
was to state the amount of debit over and above
receipts at which they might possibly stand. With
respect to the time when the duties would take effect, he
believed that in former times the custom was that they
should not take effect until the resolution of the committee
had been reported, but his impression was that re-
cently the maim had been that they should take
effect Immediately upon the pacing of the resolution in
committee. If that were so the new wine duties would be
in operation to-morrow, subject, of oourse, however, to the
ultimate decision of parliament.
Sir F. BARING asked whether it would not be possible
to apportion the lax on the licenses for private brewers
according to the amount of rent paid.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said that
was a point of detail upon which much might be said, but
be was willing to follow what appeared to be the prevailing
judgment of the home on the subject. He would take two
ur three days to consider the matter before submitting that
part of the resolution which related to private brewers.
Mr. HUBBARD asked at what period of the diecumeloa
upon the budget it would be most convenient for him to
submit hie resolution respecting the income tax?
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the
hoe. member would derive no advantage from tacking on his
resolution to the looo.me Tax Bill which was about to be
proposed. That bill was merely intended to answer the
necessity of the moment, but the resolutions of the hon.
member proposed permanent changes in the income tax,
which would occupy months in discussion. If, however,
the hon. member only wished to take the opinion of the
house on his resolutions, as embodying a principle, he
would have no difficulty in doing so either in committee or
upon the motion that the Speaker should leave the chair.
Mr. HUBBARD said if that course would suit the con-
;
Yenience of the government he would adopt it, and bring on
his resolutions after Easter.
The CHAIRMAN was about to put the resolution, when
Sir H. WILLOUGHBY said he thought there was some
inconvenience in putting a resolution which was not in
print. He thought it ought to have been printed with the
votes.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said the
proposition of the bon. baronet would amount to this, that
the resolution embodying the financial statement would ap-
pear in print before the statement was made. The local-
venience was not so great as it seemed, and it was neces-
sary to pass the resolution this evening in order that the
new duty might be levied to-morrow.
The resolution so far as related to the wine duties was
then put and carried, and the resolution having been
ordered to be reported, the house resumed.
The house then went into committee of supply.
SUPPLY.
Os the vote 5,1031. for the houses of ambassadors and
others aka&
Mr. MONSELL moved that the vote be reduced by 1,0001.
Mr. 00WPER defended the vote.
After some further discussion the committee divided. The
the numbers were—
For the amendment
Against it
The vote was then agreed to.
On a vote of 1,5001. for the Embassy hones at the

arA. SMITH moved that the vote be reduced by tire
aunt of SOU
After a short discussion the motion was withdrawn and
the vote agreed to.
Mr. Ritit then moved that the Chairman report

PeCLueotiOei was agreed to, sad the home renumeil.
THE COLLEGE OF PHYBIOLLNS (IRELAND) BILL.
Mb bill pawed through committee.
MOVEABLE PROPERTY (SCOTLAND) BILL.
Thu bIB wee rued s wood time.
SUMMARY JURISDICTION (IRELAND) BILL.
This bin wee reed 1 wood time.