The Express.
London, England, 1855-07-18 00:00:00

Lowe) had said that they were assembled then that eight
to disease the policy of the Emperor of the French. (Hear,
hear.) He (Biz J. Pakington) was besad to dispute else
the warm, of that Mailman. (Churl.) A more erro
aeons or • mere neitadird sonelaMon had sever bees
arrived at by say bon. member that had taken part is the
debates of that hum. (Masers.) Tbia was the Mintiest'
highest Walsh had been treed in the first angelus to stale
daintier, (Cheers.) The eight boa. begone& had di-
gital", and . zly admitted that the committee bad entirel
avoided the apprehended danger; and be (&r J. raking.
ten) gesaturled nor only thee they word urfeetly
free to mend their opinions is that bow, bet
that notliirg could Se worse as a preendleat then
this attempt spreveat their doing/4,0 (Hear, bear.) Das
Me petal, thewelbre, be eitirely Uwe* the aphis of the
righe figs, _beam" and he meld get, altemegh be arrived at
Meet •Mddasket with reloctenee, 111188 UP shelter htensei( be-
biota* grease! the praise quedeei. There bad oar-
tardy bees nedsing ia e
mth speed of the hon. and 'What
wester (Giulia reel) pinuade hist° support his
atoesdraeat • NOM bad hear* with surprise the ezesdons
which the silliest gestiesen reek to several parte of? the
Trott. ()I.e. Meetiegit—. Hear, hear.") The leanest pm-
Leman bedsit media these objectless bathe committee. ea*
therefore ha mut be taken to be a party to them. (Hear.)
Then the gallant seediest had sighed that the males ot
the boa. member (lir- BOribuak) laciest the palsy of
going to the Crimea at all. That he most deny. (Obsess.)
Neither in the words now in the Mortice of the his.
men sled the maim ttripelie that polity. (Mr. •
Her, hear.) Bat eves if is EH, he should au es that
usual hesitate to assort the motion. (Mr. )right—
Hear, hear.) If they considerolthe mate af efts at the time
it wee decided to go to thee! kinge,thipeliehlwallestertain
doubts. At that period the tier et Meals hid been raised,
the Principalities had bees liberated, Constantialile was
saved, the immediate objets of the war as • defensive
one had been attained. It was, therefore, • most grave
question, whether the whole policy of the allies should be
changed ; and whether hostilities which had been commenced
for papoose of defies shoald same as aggressive altime-
ter ? A hon. gentleman had talked of a British occupa-
tion of the Crimea; sod they ought to know whether the
Government sow entertained any idea of that kind? (Hear,
hear.) For his own part, however, he believed that her
Majesty's government had any definite idea of
the object they had is view. (Hear, hear.) They had
been told by the noble lord (Lord J. Russell) in • recent de-
bate, that although invading the enemy's soil we should not
be at liberty to entertain the idea of seeking the legitimate
fruits of successful aggreasioo, namely, the meals of any put
et the Russia& territory, and that again was another mama
for doubting the poday of Invasion. (Hear.) In his (Sir
J. Pakingtaa'a) mad there were osly two candidate that
could have justified sash a policy, and both of them were
absent when it was determined opts, the let being the
pesession of • sulkiest force for the aadereaking, and the
other the moral certainty of seems. (Hear.) He would
f sot dwell further upon this point, for, as be had already
said, it was not the question before the home. The Ties-
tioa really raised by the motion was this—Ware the govern-
ment justified in attacking the Haitians with inadequate
means? (Cheers.) Were they justified in bundles as•
they had done the booms, the glory, and the prestige of
England? In hie humble opinion the expedition had bean
undo, taken in violation of every rule of war, and of every
dictate of prudent». (Cheat.) 'ln support of that opines
he desired no stronger proof than sadism which had been
given by members of Lord Aberdeen's government. On
the 10th of April the Doke of Newcastle wrote to Lord
Raglan in these terms: "Before such undertakings can be '
attempted, it is sesseary that information which can be
relied as shall be obtained upon many pelotas tiro *bid,
little or nothing is at present known." (Hear, hear.) That
was a statement dictated by pudica and • proper mutton ;
bet how did the 'overissue rooted to act upon it ? The
month 01.11pral, of May, and of June pared, but no informa-
tion was received. On the 19th of June the goverment Were
still in entire ignorance of the strength of Sebastopol, and
of the amount of force the enemy possessed is the
Crimea; but on the day in qieetion they nevertheless
ordered the isyssion of that portion of the Russian temtory.
In the middle of July aa answer was rueived, but it was to
the effect that Lord Raglan could sot obtain any informa-
tion. It appeared, however, from the evidence of Biz J.
Graham and of Lord Aberdeen, that when information was
sabeitneatly obtained, it tamed out that the Sudan force
in the Crimea was 70,000 strong; and yet the government
had staked the honour and the glory of England epos the
ability of a force of little more teas 60,000 men, of whom
only 26,000 were British, to take the stronghold of
Sebastopol. (Cheers.) The first event was the battle of
the Alma. That was, no doubt, one of the most glorious
dela in the annals of the British army ; but he believed
the beet military authoridi a ware of opinion that that vie-
tory was against all human probability—that, in short, if
the Russian bad only been true to themselves, if they had
only availed themselves of the advantages of their position
u they ought, end if they had fought as they afterwards
did at Inkeratann and Sebastopol, we should not have
gained that victory. (Hoar, bear.) The truth was, the
government reckoned on taking Sebastopol by • amp di
retain; they mode no provision for wintering before the
town; and the horrible rends of their want of foresight
he need not tell. (Haar, hear.) Nor was there anything
in the conduct of the seam" government, Including as it
did& rte wiejorii yof thew who were imeemed in these
feast otiose, that would indulge him to hesitate before Skies
the step whisk a *roe' seas et duty would lead him to
adopt. The male d lb. previsse algid had rather tended
to shake his 00.1411•69 is that geversoest. (Hear, hoar.)
They had reason to believe that the government were sot
dealing fairly and honestly by the count•y. What unractos
bad they. for Sainte, that the government were tithing
adequate measures to prevent in the winter that was ap•
preaching the ragmen's attune terrible scenes which they
had witnessed at the irsameneemeut of this year ? (Chao(
"Oh," and eouster-clesen.) Where was the foreign
legion of which the hose' had heard so mush? (Chem.)
Where was the reserve, so essential to the army ? Was the
militia form in the oesdition ia whisk it euAt to be ?
(Hear.) He held ia his hand a rotors which led been
published • few days ago. It prudently omitted to stele
what was the proper hue of the militia; bet be heaved
that he might Nuts it at 80.000 MUM for Bellahlide XllO ibr
Ireland, and 10.000 for Scotland—in all 190 000 loal
the strength of the minds for the whale Ling Malt
moment was no more than 60,000 men. Caw, how.) His
(the right hon. baronet) believed that these were summer-
taut points ; and therefor*, although it might be palmed te
him oa pausal grenade to do so—(derisive ebeige)—
although it might involve some aunties of
(laughter)—a clear and arose sense of duty wail
rim to support the modes of his hon. gad learned Island the
member fa Sheffield. (Cheers.)
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Sir C. WOOD eonfeeMd he had been astonished by the
°penis, sentences of the right hos. baronet's speech,
for be should bare thought that the right boa.
gentles's'. memory might have served him at
least for Meaty-few hears, and that he would sot has
repeated a charge, whisk had bees denied ,on the previous
sight by these most waspeteat to give that denial—the
&ergs, namely, that the governsent shrank from a vote of
wassure. Both the noble lord (Lord J. Buell) end the
noble viscount (Lord Palmettos) had stated in terms es
distinst resible that they like government) went
.psi-
pared to Sght the battle of his noble friead—(densive
sheen); thus they were perfectly prepared to resist the
MOOS ef the has. basset the member for Hertfordshire ;
sad that it wee by his owe set, end not at the request, bat
with the releateat cones% of hie eolbrasses, that the noble
lord bad retired from the gevernsmat. (Laughter.) The
noble viscount had staled
C that they would sot shrink
from any responsiblitiewhish justly. btionged to this ; bet
he (Sir hutes W nee sevesashes pawed to lay
that t maid was Ibetailisa/11 the ben. mid 'alias
pstiessanhey who had moved the pushes gashes. (Ironical
sheers.) He wee. net .nasesed to take that aurae. He
bad opposed the Sppeialeasit a theasanittee. at the
ground that the aging sena at the best be bat Lawton,
and would Sala tae andast of our ally. Well, the re-
pert admitted that soh MC been the sem (Hes. hear.)
The right Ms. bslsssl said %bathe did sot es kiwi the
inquiry said is the sigtiate.doc: halve the pulley a
the 'spading= te the the mama efts be
stated his owe easiest was *at tba es sedition. bed been a
violation of every role of war, sad of ever/ dictate of re-
deem Wu the quanta of 'deg to the Orissa raised
by the neetiset, sr wee it set i Ti. boa: sad leased gentle.
man whe had 'wooed it, distinctly and that it west' for he
said them that. it was sash, imprudeat, and utterly azdasii-
Gable ago to the Crisis with doily stub laternisam as
they paw*. Ma sir 0. Wood) as sot 'Labial to
Wink lre.a the responsibility of the eapeditia , to the
Crimes. Ha beliered that tt was a wise epistles. i (Bear,
boar.) No doubt, sweat had sot, as yet, atisaded it; bat
he woe'A appeal te ell that had (Spade in the Oriasii„
whoth's from Use to time they bid set believed that rat.
Ms *eta et the point et bast within their grasp f _ . (liar,.
has e.) The hon. amber tor Lakaasaseeesed te hh.re tor-
aiT
Se Sas the leases of terser wire lithe lasi pi, with
'abiels we bad been lelessd ; for be appeared to • k that
war esid be earried es without pain et eafferiog.- Bess
He (Sir gw.siget) was se sorry me say sus weld
we were Mt oar, Lathe Les eatoterod a
the beet et ebeelstag • seastaatery POMO was
SO with the saittont peeit)e acy.inty ad
Bewouldonly siaa to one her rat, and that
larded with the Mamie* et Ile hes sad learned
(Kr. Reebok). • net hes amber staslll that /
shams separated thp. ii which went from this,
aed w Mat erstVeladetve for the sages;.
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