The Express.
London, England, 1864-07-15 00:00:00

COURTS OF JUBTIOII BILL.

h reply to Btr J. Smet.txr,
The ATTORNEY.GENERAL laid he found that the
hot,e were not likely to be nuanituoue u to this bill, and
he regretted being compelled, owing to the late period of the
eeesioe at which they bed arrived, to withdraw the roeuture.
He would, however, undertake that a similar bin alutuld be
introduced early neat session. (Hear, bear.)
THE WAR IN NEW ZEALAND.

Sir M. FARQUHAR asked whether her Majesty's
government had received any despatches that day in respect
of the details of the unfortneste engagement which had
taksu place in New Zealand!

Mr. CARDW ELL said that the deepatcbee were received
at the Cotoniel.office that day, and that it bad been his
intention, when moving the first order of the day, to have
informed the home of the receipt of such despatches, and
that he would lose no time is placing their contents in the
kande of boo. members. The principal despatch related to
the action which took place at Orakan, upon the Northern
Island, • telegram respecting which sd already crested so
muchisnxiety and sorrow in thathouse sod in the country. As
the whole despatch would so shortly be in the bandit
of members he thought it better to leave the story
to be told in the words of Gomel Cameron
himself. He might, however, state that the repulse was
attributed by that distinguished officer to the intricate con-
striction of the interior deforms, and to the confesses
consequent upon the loss of so many officers at the incensat
of assaulting the defences. General Cameron stated that
" laeurenant-Colonel Booth and Commander Hays, who
led the moult in front, fell mortally wounded, and Captain
Hamilton was shot dead at the top of the parapet while is
the act of encouraging his men to advance, and in • few
minutes almost every officer of the column was either
killed or wounded. The repulse lam at • logs to explain
otherwise than by attributing it to the confusion created
among the men by the intricate baton of the interior de.
fences, and by the sudden fall of so many officers. The natives,
availing themselves of the darkness, escaped during the night.
Os taking possession of the works in the morning Lieut.-
Colonel Booth and some of the man were found still 'misc,
and to the credit of the natives had not been maltreated,
nor had any of the bodies been mutilated. I deeply deplore
the loss of so many brave and valued officers, who fell is
the noble discharge of their duty. The 43rd Regiment sad
the marries have sustained a serious loss by the death of
Lieut.-Colonel Booth, which took place on the night after
the attack. I have already mentioned the brilliant example
shown by this officer in the assault. When I met biro
wounded on the moroiog following the moult, as he was
Wks carried out of the works, the first word be uttered was
an expression of regret that he had found it impossible te
earry out my orders. The heroism and devotion of
Captain Hamilton and Commander Hays reflect the
highest honour on the naval service." (Hear, hear.) He (Ma.
Cardwell) was happy to say that those papers (ordained ac-
counts of two other engagements in which the result had been
very different. One of those eappments took plans on
the day previous to the assault, and in the immediate
neigh-
bourhood ; the other was a most gallant exploit conducted
by Captain Short, and which took place at Tarasiki, on the
other shore of the Northern Island. He world lose no time
in laying the paws on the table of the house.
NEW ZEALAND (GUARANTEE OF LOAN) BILL.
Mr. CARDWELL moved the moped reading of this bill.
Mr. A. MILLS, pursuant to notice, moved that
the bill be read a second time that day three months. He
said that the principle of ao imperial guarantee of colonial
loans had always been considered objectionable. The late Sir
James Graham in August, 1557,. when a similar proposition
to the present ass under discussion, said, " I think that the
relations between the mother country and the colonies
cannot be placed on • mere immure basis than that of
debtor and creditor, and that what aid is to be gives should
be in the nature cis grant. I regard these imperial secu-
rities as highly dangerous." The question wield ap-
pear to be this not whether we were to tax
the colonies, but whether the colonies were to tax us.
The colony derived nine-tenths of their toes' revenue
from customs, or is other words from the exclesioa of
our manufactures from their markets. They jealously re.
seated the slightest attempt at imperial interfereoce as an
outrage opal their rights. Therefore, while they were
wholly unfettered by the imperial government,' they came to
the imperial parliament, asking it to goarnates this loan to
suable them to carry on a war in refessoce to which the
people of this country had serious misgivings as to its right-
eomneas and justice. (Hear, hear.) Be did not mean tv
offer any apology for the MLA rising, but he conodeund
that the conduct of the Maimie•—however outrageoes
it might have been—had bees grievously aggravated by
the course pursued by the colonial government.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER said be was
desirous of answering that ponies of the speech of the hoe.
gentleman who had just spokes which referred to the USA-
cd part of the case. His hon. friend asked how they were
tossenre the repayment of the debt. It would be in this
way—most part of the loan wield not find its wag=
colony at all, but would go straight to the ,
His hon. friend mid they had hitherto but done
little more than talk about making the oolooists contribute
to the military expenditure. Bat what was now to be dose
was that, instead of • nominal oontributiou of 51. a bead,
there was to be • real cootribution of 401. a heed, •
charge which would prevent the colonirta from seeking the
assistance of British troops more than they were compelled
to do. Therefore this arrangement would be • matter of
economy to us, sad would be • check on the dispoeitiou of
the colonial authorities to call for more troops thee they
required, and would go a considerable wily towards rectifying
the disturbed relations between the mothettemotry and the
colonies in this essential matter of military expenditure. His
hen. friend might say this was all very wallop paper; bat how
were they to get the 401. a man! Well that was a question
on which the house would be fns to take its own course.
It was is the power of the house to insist that this compact
with the colony should be carrbd out. They could require
any declaration or instrument from the colony ; bet the
great security was this—he did not say it could be done in
the n.idat of wer—that the announcement was formally
made to the colonial authorities that on this condition alone,
with the exception of one single regiment, would the
mother country consent to continue to supply troops to the
colony. If the bonne would sot give this guarantee, all he
could say was that he did not see how they could
take • single step to extricate themselves from the false
position they were in with regard to military expenditure
is the colonies. They proposed to do that by this arrange.
went, aad they did not aak the house to agree to this gua-
rantee without conditions by which the colonists, who had
the blearing, of freedom, should bear the burden of free.
dom. These were, generall7, the grounds on which those
who were especially responsible for the finances of this
country supported this proposition, sod be trusted the house
would apse to the second reading of the bill.
Mr. WHITESIDE wished to know what was the policy
of her Majesty's government with respect to this question.
It appeared that the natives could reason. They held
mistime' ; they debated ; and it was said that they
showed great good sense. It was not remarkable, however,
Viet they should act as they had dose, d they had come to
the coeclusion that it was the intuition to exterminate them,
and to distribute their bade amongst the settle'. (Hear,
hear.)

Mr., ROEBUCK wished to fix the responsibility of this
matter upon the shoulders which ought to bear it, namely,
times of the people of England. The mere fact that our
countrymen had gone to New Zealand waa an invssioa of
the country. Nor was it the first time that we
had dose this thing. We went to America and
did it. The colonists were left to themselves,
more puttied** in Massachusetts, and, to we
their own phraseology, they "smote the heathen, hip and
thigh," and put an end to all opposition by force of arms.
The very fact that the white man went into & country
involved the density of the brown man's disappearance.
It was a curious fact io natuml history, but that had 'Limeys
been the clue, and always would be. In the case of New
Zealand, however, this country stopped in and said
to the colonists, "We are going to introduce •
new prieciple ; we are going to be humane ; we are
going to had a Maori population by the side of a white
one. From that moment we took upon ourselves the
necessity of seeing the native people exterminated, He
recollected telling the government long ago, that in attempt-
ing to conciliate both parties they would raise
feelinp oe the part of the Maories that would
render civilised government inipcerible ; that they
would then be compelled to make war upon the natives,
and the latter would be swept away. Wall, had not that
come true The moral of the story was this. The people
of England, who bad undertaken this new policy, were
bound to protect the colonnta against the mischief which
they had brought ab.mt. The didn't' said twenty years
ago, " Leave this matter to us and we will Dot trouble you."
The Logliali people would not consent to do that, and now
they were bound to guarantee this loan it they wished to
maintain the colony. He bad said twenty years ego that
they were about to make • long agony instead of a abort
misery, and everything that had sines occurred had tended
to jaatify that remark.
Sir 11. WILLOUGHBY observed that in the that in-
stance the metiers had held their lands very much by the
forbearsnce of the natives. Treaties were then
made, and it was difficult new to say who had
brokea them ; but if these guarantees were given to the
loans of the colonists war would become chronic, so long as
the natives lasted. _ _

Mr. AYTOUN should support the arEendineA. There
were only two grounds ou which a loan, or indeed any other
species of aid, to a ...Army could be instilled. One yru that
the mother country had injured it, or had retarded its pto•
*parity by interference, nod that was the plea upon which
the farmer gu trauma> was asked for. The other ground was
where the colony was in desperate circumstances. Now, be
dal not see how either argument could be advanced in the
must ease.

Sir S. NOIITHCOTE said be had some d Acuity as to the
• 4.. be should give, and asked for farther extilaaations no
',viral potato in coutiexioe with tbs loan. He was unwil-
ling to guarank-e the loan, melees a clear case was made out.
Mr. CARDWELL replied to the objections offered against
the guarantee, and urged reasons why the proposal should
be agreed to. He gave a short history of the policy pursued
towards the native race in New Zealand, sad showed what
was the reel origin of the present war, as stated by Gower-soy
Sir George Grey, namely, the murder of &British party by the
chief of the Wsikatos. and a conspiracy of the Datives, sad
Use plan proposed by Sir George for dealing with the for-
feited lands. He then explained in detail the arrangemeste
entered into with the coloey for the imperial guenetttwe of
the loss. la considering the security, Ise gave perticulass
of the finances of the colony. which showed that the ordi-
nary revenue of the last financial year amounted to 949,0004,
and the surplus to 260,0001., sad dist the estimated sulpha