The Express.
London, England, 1864-07-09 00:00:00

we bad given we bad given In otealantlaw with
our Junes. iris latent ad Match, whist bed been so much
discussed, was not withdrawn at the instance of our mi-
nister, he having refund to promise any material saint-
once. It was afterwards withdrawn, but without any
pressure ou our pert The fact wen that with respect
to tLis, as wallas every other commission of the Dame, they
were made too late. The next point wag that the Danes had
declined to re,i,t federal execution in Holstein an his (Lord
wojeboa...'s) advice. Now the fact was that that advice
was given in conjunction with Francs, Russia. and Sweden,
and by us ail holt any a-rename of meoonsibility. A. so
tee 'stance in Holstein, Y. Hall told him es his arrival is
Copeningen that the guanine of uoc-ramemoce bad been
already airtu.llydecided. He (Lord Wodehonae) applied
no pressure, and he accepted no raeponsibility. The noble
and learned lord said that the spirit of all the documents
we that Denmark had been promised material aid, but he
(Lord Wodetiouse) affirmed that everything be wrote or said
was intended to convey the impression that Deassarit wee
not to expect material aid from England. Now as
to his advice respecting the constitution, he most ob-
serve that this onstitutioo, although with some
liberal provision, was chiefly valued by the Danith
people as • step towards the union of Skew ig,
and that the German powers remonstrated &pima it on
the same account. When he went to Berlin, M. von Bie
marck told him that if that constitution were set repealed
before the Ist Joanary, the Germ* powers would consider
theelealves to be released (Win all their ougagements ; and
it was therefore his object to prevent, if passible this
conditution from comiog into effect. It wea with thi; view
be advised, and his advice was supported by the French and
Russian ministers. He coatooded that the despatches
showed that it had been pointed out to the Dung' govern-
ment that it would be a great advaatage if the dispute
could be confined to negotiation instead of first allowing
war to begin. When the advice which was taoiered to the
Danish government was followed circumstances bad eatirely
cheered; and the foot was, that government did not preemies
to repeal the coretitation given to Slaswig and Holstein
until after notice had been received that the territory would
be occupied in 4S hours. Ths advice given to Denmark
was in conjunction with our allies, but in ao case
was itaocompaaied writhe promise°, amistaaos. (Hear. bear.)
The papers allowed distinctly that the intention of her
Majesty government was to endeavour in the lint instance
to obtain for Detmark en opportunity for negotiating by
offering their good offices, sod by their apposing, In the
character of mediator', mid the Prosaism government was
very anxious that her Majesty's government should act in
that character. (Hear, hear.) That was op to the death of
the late King; but his death becarre very important, and
after it took place her Majesty's government eadenoured
to obtain the assistance of Frans and the other pouted
powers who signed the treaty of 1852. That, however,
was not accomplished; but if the honour of England
was tarnished by the remit, surely the honour of
Franca was also tarnished. But he thought that both the
house and the country would join with the government in
acv:1•1, that they came to • wise decision in keeping this
couLtry oat of a war into which they most bevel entered
alone. (Hear, hear.) It might be—it probably would be—
the duty and the polky of this country to abstain more
than she had don of late from hatelfeeing with the gig*,
of the Continent; but be would ask whether, what mod-
dering the treaty of '52. this country could, with honour,
have abstained from diplomatic ionHernoe on behalf of
Denmark? (Hear, hear.) He would also ask that house,
before they gave the weight of theft great authority to a
resolution which stated that the jut Millman of this coun-
try had been lowered, to consider whether it had really
been diminished because the effort, which had been made
had not culminated in a war? (Cheers.)
The Earl of CARNARVON said he had listened, but in
nits, to hear from any Goa of the sable lords opposite a
satisfactory defence of the conduct of the government.
(Hear, hear.) The last noble lord who spoke bad, instead
of defending the government, toads a speech full of masons
upon the Danes and their government. Bat onsideciag the
part which this country had played in them matters, their
lips ought to be sealed when they looked at the coo-
duct of the Danish government, for they most remember
that sot one eagle concession asked for from that govern-
ment had not been granted. (Hear, hear.) He did not
deny the honesty of intention of the goverment, but
it was perfectly fair, after so many /adores,
that parliament should be asked to express its
opinion upon the conduct of the government. (Hear, hear.)
Her Majeatyle government urged open Denmark the revoca-
tion of the patent of March. The revosation took place,
but what good came of it ? They urged upon Denmark
the revocation of the November coastitution, submission to
federal anordne in Holstein, sod the abasdooment of the
whole defensive frootier of Sleewig. ill were conceded,
but no good came of the coocenion. Her Majesty's govern.
meat appeased sewer to have bad one defulito point ; they
never found • single line beyond which they were not pre-
pared to go, but each position which they bad taken up was
abeedoced. They started with tee treaty of 1354 they
elided with the dismemberment of the llgoish kingdom.
The result of their isiterfarence was • complete break
down of that system of diplomatic language which
they had need for marry years. The Prima
Minister, during the long period that be bald the
seals of the Foreign-OEn, wak the Ant to import the system
of using stinging axpeassiona isle the lanisimm ol that de-
partment ; but the molds earl (Farl Busaell) had very touch
Improved on the noble lord the Prime Minister. Within
the last few years the sable earl had attend denanciatione
against &1mag0...7 pante in Eurepo—he had &unmet in
turn France, Roane, Amide, and Prussia. and he was bound
to say that the strength of the noble earl', actions bad been
in Mamma properties * the Mreogth of ltd sameiguous.
(Hear, hear.) It bad struck him that the noble earib
despot:chat om this subject, instead of being the calm and de-
liberate expsesaions of she Foreigroelke, wound of
the earlier amollection of the. noble rind—thew
bear)—they were, in fact, electioneering 'speeches
addressed from the platform of tin 4MBes
to the fame. and independent governmenter.:l"l"Europe.
People in Hosted knew how to appreciate each language,
and could Make proper deductions ; but it arm too teach to
expect that that mead be dome by temeign nations, who were
first startled, than bewildered. Una offended. Might ho
recall to the recollection Of the noble earl a most ebarmieg
pump in that moss charmbg of pisys, IllereiliMit
The DWG WI mast ineember the advise ghee by Sir
Ltcius 07rigger to a gentleman whit was
The is
ma
vergrictilltag
talk loudly, bat very nawillftig to fight.
sonethiag this.:.-" Mc Leine if yen teen • spl
be is • rege—let nisi he in o prises]," What weg thiamine.
"Do things deoeotly, Rodin a Christian manner; and whin
yoe meet year aolegoalot let your egramee he as learE but
at the *roe time 1111 polished, en' your sword." 11 dee
Foreigmothos had borne that in mind ; if its paitor.
had been as keen as it was polished, tbe
would ban been wry eliffesenh b~eeegrr
noble earl should have left his. Is the subbed Hall
be intended was to make empty be the air. (Hear,
hear.) The language at whisk he bad spans was denogneed
by the late Sir ktebard Peel la hie lan egreedx, and it had.
moos led, in many coma, to the peevelegamof the low of the
strongest. If the principle of tbodinneenbannootof
states was to be scooptsd, no mime .ok. would be sesare
and the words of Sir James Mackintosh would be redhead,
smaller states would form • neer* to gratify the 'muta-
ting or the cupidity of the imam (Hem, hartz.)' The
Foreign Secretary was math toe meet • miner push..
=eatery tactics not to know that when he thein to
swallow the cup of bitter humiliation it was neomesay Her
him to offer thaw seas stadiesirs as ea equivalent The
condiment in this can was peace. Peace was never* In
purchased by national humiliation—(bear, boor)—end the
great complaint whisk he (the Led Of Oarnervue) seeds
against the gonnimitat was, that so far from having given
them peace, by an osteatatlone etinging to pesos they hod
brought the, to the verge of en lierepem war.
bear.) The oaten, like the indieduol,_ which atifferalac
tibgt
chastity of its haeomr to he soiled, would find that
there was a very 'beet veep Indeed from Insult
to injury, and Mimi to bed"ow:fer""""'
It bad been elated that the opposition wore bo show'
their policy. He easwered that by seeming the existing
govarsmaat they were in another fora
.statiag what their
policy was. When be sawweek. asemota and Chrisal"winnl.
people, allied to ne by blood and °therein, vu
trampled dowa.biteeif theta% of (led sad Mai-ToTitill
whoa he saw to as as needling
plice, then u =wild= claimed his privilege '62807-
pressing his abhorrence, and- of shaking of from tie feel
the dust of this Itheneekloa. (Hear, ham.)
Esti RUSSELL—Hy lords, L am grateful to the noble
earl who has just eat down for %Wag gote loolenvitba-
yowl the hounding queens*, and beetag 'ram 1•141
some general moskieraticow *footing the !omega pone, or
the government. I must remark that with raped to
the foreign policy of the oppeolitee, N would
be indeed at premed • most difficult Yak I* dimmer whet
that p hey is—(theme)—for there are wiry few men on that
"le who agree in the policy to be putened. The other night
the noble earl (Earl of Darbylgave vs Menem of the state
of adrift, which appeared to have for eta malt this. that it
would be wrong to contemplate war in respect to Denmark
in any nonmetal:nee whatever. Bat 1e noble earl who
brought forward the whoa to-sight has takes so far a dit-
to mit oourse that be seemed to be of opinion that at. Apr-
tat period when the German troops were about to ester
Sloorig, he would haw preferred • doge= is favour of
war, which would, be said. he attended with little risk,
Krause it would have prevented this war. It that were so,
he could not weeder that the nage earl ehoeld %we pro-
(erred multi that canting icy. 1 non lid some fault
with the noble earl who spoke last for having tendon' is
of the policy of the government which he
ied would exctiode war in wiry. sonsistiscw I "'OW
,Ivred at that, because I have on several ocean= hod
t explain the grounds on which 1 thought war inevilahle.
I have said more this once that V t ehosoaiDl this eirao-
gre were involved you can have no hentotion, hot that yea
1..,5! at once make the choice which was alone oonaisted
with honour. I have likewise said that if these ems a
crest and paramount interest el the conatty kedged, this
~;ain there might be war. But I have &limy...aid that
questions of minor interest Tian bays a right to wash
ire advantage *ghee the diandereateges ; had id yen tibia*
it lawn to go to war, you have a perfect right nt to do
The noble earl who brought forward the etc on is yew?
`.rotate in not having had to OIXIOILOSIT the difficulties
and to consider the perils that have attended this war.
(Ifem.) The treat of 1852 waa, I believe, p win treat/
a:se in is object, object, and well selenlatel for t
-notion the of _Europe- MOO SOMA, 1100,1111141. •
• •!. more dependent on contingencies. and mars urns&
',nees, never was framed. It depended in the fleet
on the amemplishmeat lot. Dessek el all her pro-
40i .0 the Germs nevem ; i theme, telaot oil the
• ---r.,tioo of those powers as Desanarb, sod
thou asking no more Mae they were affl to de