The Express.
London, England, 1855-02-20 00:00:00

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powerful diet la MN Bolas we she'll lam had lhst Rue-
man feet sass lag the seem, crippliag ear ereamerce, and
whir ria=robares ; and tbeselses it is unjust to
illy Ms bus been does, when we have
shut up rat naval force is its own ports
during dies die of the season Is which it could
peg te sea, Mel thereby saved this country from
Ihe gent fammesaimmen which would have &Mtn from the
romp of MSS mein of that first. With regard then be
map milltei7 opoillises It is plain that if we wished M
rig Russia be Memo it was accessary to strike • Mew
elsewhere. Weald the boa. and palest gentleman have
bad es seed an army bate the steppes of outral Rune, sad
whisk would have peas wandering about here nog
am when as blow could have bees strut&
which would lave produced a decisive result ? We
West have gained • victory in central Asia
sad vet h sve bees no neater to • decisive result. Weft*
a different course, and endeavourel to strike • blow where
the null would have been greatest if we succeeded. We
uedettnek this war to Mud Turkey against the agree-
WA of Mini!. We did not make war. as has been said,
bemuse we preferred Mussulmen t 3 Christie's. but because
we 'visite,' to prevent the you regions of the Turkish em-
pire from falling:unlit the dominion of Russia. Where,
thee, did the dale( danger lie? In the Black Sea. (Hear, hear.)
It us manifest that Austria had such an interest in pro-
tinting Turkey from • formidable invasion by land, that we
might safely have the defence of her land frontier to the,
combined armies of Turkey (whose army, by the bye, aloes
withstood the attacks of Russia for • whole year) and
Austria. But it we. clear that the great power of Rives
eseiset Turkey lay in Sebastopol. There she had • great
Oust which gave bet every power in the Black Sea, and
• great arsenal from which that feet could dart
like lightning upon Constantinople. There wee con.
isentrated the power of Russia in the Black Sea, sod
there It was that something was vs be done, if we were
to do anything. (Hear, hear) The difficulties have cer-
tainly been greater than was anticipated. (Hear, hear.) I
will not enter now into • discussion es to whether or not
thins difficulties have been i ted by want of proper sr-
rangemenqa or by bad management, but the house ought, I
think, to show some indulgence towards the errors of
men who had no experience of the duties they were
suddenly • celled on to perform, and which ex-
perience would have enabled them to have discharged
with greater success. It has been said that
we have an academy where staff officers can learn their
duty; but learning their duty at an academy, end learning
their duty by actual practice in the field, are two very dif-
ferent things. (Hear, bur.) Foreign armies on the Con-
tinent Lays a great advantage over the army of England.
The bulk of those armies are always in their own territory ;
they are kept together in large bodies, and are engaged in
large operations during the summer; and mimic war
teaches theta practically the duties of • campaign. The
tint time that our army has had such an ad-
vantage wee in small numbers at Chobham last year,
and we ought not hutily to condemn men who having
lever had an opportunity to practise there duties, were
called on to perform them under circumstances of
unparalleled difficulty. (Hear, hear.) So much for the
policy of the government in the conduct of the war. I
contend that if we had confined ourselves to a naval war it
would have been of imperative inutility, while if we en-
gaged in military operations, those operations ought to have
Men directed to the point, and the only point,
when an effectual blow could be struck against
the adversary with whom we are engaged. An ho-
nourable gentleman has made a suggestion which
is well deserving of consideration. Ile his the hardship
upon military officers returning to this country sufferieg
from 'cued@ or infirmities contracted in the service, and
who have net, as naval albums Mee, the advent's* of hos-
pitals to which they can be takes. Whether the go-
moots of the military authorities will admit of this sugges-
tion Wort carried out I canni.t say, but it is one d lag
of considerstaioe. (Hear, hear.) My hen. friend behinu
me reminds me that when a military officer is wounded in
IMirlfiril, by the regulations he has given to him u a gratuity
a year's pay, which is intended to afford him the
means of obtaiaiag such medical uaistance as he
✓equires. The hon. member for Lambeth, as usual,
has ondensud the custom of having household troops, and
declares that there boo use in having • body of Gouda, who
receive higher pay, and lisle greater privileges than the
net of the army. Now, we are often told that we ought to
imitate the system of foreign armies, and that our military
operations have not been successful bemuse we hive not
followed their 'amble. But if there is any arrangement
in forties armies which prevails more than another, it is
that there should be one corps which possesses greater
pnvdeges than the rest of the army. So much so is that
the case, that in the French army the Imperial Guard has
been reorganised, and I had the satisfaction not long um of
'Meg 13,00 magnificent soldiers of the Imperial Guard in
the gardens of the Tuileries. In the Russian, the
PllllB4ao, and the French armies there is to be
Sound • body of trove which correspond to oar
Brigade of Guards. As to the manner in which dem
troops of ours have done their duty— (loud cheers)--even
one ksows wherever a desrerate resistance was to be made
M the enemy, or a dangerous service to be perfumed, there
yes were sure to fad a brigade of Guards. (Loud churl.)
This beings me to the observations of my hon. friend be-
hind me with regard to the Household Cavalry, which be
mys ase of so au, mad that they could not be employed is
this war, became the men were toe teen and
the horse, too unwieldy. Does my hon. friend
knot Waterloo, and that thou 'magnificent troops,
by the very weight and strength of the men and hones,
orerbne eve Wing that was opposed to them at Waterloo
—(bear, hear--sad that even in the Peninsula they were
employed with gust sums. They have not been sent to
the Crimea, Maus it is • distant place, and the eaters of
the ground dm not require troops of that description. My
he.. friend the member for Lambeth has also said that be
le sorry not te see in the estimates any plus
lee the consolidation of the different departments
of the War-offiee. The feet is, that no consoli-
dation could prevent the keeping of • number of
Seeks to take Mugs of the accounts of the army, 110 d no
Gee has ever imagined that by placing all the departments
ander the control of the Minister for War there would be
no necessity for separate offices, although when the proposed
establishment of the civil department of the army is com-
plete, each of the different offices, and the whole of them,
will be placed under his control as a whole. The
honourable sisembar for Inverness his said that
we begs. this war without any land transport
service. He is mistakes. We began the war, certainly,
without • upstate corps for land transport; but the thane-
port service was placed under the commissariat. It was
found, however, that these visa much inconvenience in the
combination of two departments of • different nature,
one of which was charged with procuring and cueing sup
plies to the troops, and the other with transporting than.
But we had 4,000 or 6,000 horse" sad mules at Varna,
specially provided for the transport service of the army.
It was not possible to carry them to the Crimea at the
time the troops were sent, and from circumstances which
arose they could net be sent afterwards. The arrangement
we are now g is not the earning out for the first
time of the means o proposinf land transport, bia4thoes means having
before been under the commissariat, we pupae to transfer
them to a separate establishment, whose Widen it will be
to perform those services ; and we believe great advantages
will be derived from the consolidation of these services in •
particular department. An observation has also been made,
sir, on the calamity which betel • number of horses who
died for want of forage ' • and this has been ascribed to the
neglect on the part of thine who ought to have provided it.
The hon. gentleman, perhaps, was sot aware that, in the
unfortunate hurricane in which the Prince was lost, we
lost 20 days' forage for all the animals in the camp. In true-
ports wrecked in that storm we lost forage that would have
supplied all the animals for 20 days. The loss war a levers
nee; and for some time it was my &Senn to replace it.
On account of the badness of the seeds, geseddilkeity was
found in bringing up anything Irma tkoMdemlthearruseceas-
sequence of which was' that whilst there wee
of supplies in the port, those in the =lath s Vises Ibex
were intended, suffered the greatest At vial Of
them. I have been asked, sir, what pep= boasimads
in raising a foreign corps ? In the slily god deo 1111111.111
we urged the necessity of poising • bill to etgawe is II
raise foreign troops; and I especially antrea Pbe lame
to consent to it, in order that we might, without loss of
time, enlist these troops to go to the assistance of our
own in the Crimea. It is perfectly true that we
have not as yet succeeded is getting • single sea
—and why ? (Hear, hear.) I must tell the house
the truth, however unpleasant it may be. The reason
why has been the language used. (Hear.) I am forced to
my the language used in the debates in this and the other
hose of parliament has created such feelings of resentment
and indiination on the continent of Europe—(hear, hear)
—that those persons who before had accepted letters of
settee to raise men in Germany threw them up. (Hear)
De titmice imposed on government of not giving half-
wkle tee Akers also tended greatly to impede us. I Le-
a mg Mist if • clause had not been inserted pro-
of half-pay to the officers—if language
die aset kind—(hear, hear)—talking of the
of
Ilammu_ ry amp al ism and Germany, and arousing
lie Motional Wks of the eminent against us, had not
limmumd, no doubt at this time we would have bad a very
di eat story to tell. (Hear.) It has not, however, altered
ii.,___kan, d do polled the continent towards our cause ;
_•°M.ll._. alekiiel Is right; we wish her to succeed; bat
,
'"c las lugs? bald towards other nationalithn, we moot
take service. ' would not have made this statement, which
mabe considered to convey a reproach on members of this
the ether house of parliament, but it is the true rases,
mil Ism Isteed to tell it. The hon. member for Devoe-
=very natural question ; he said that we gave
to non-commissioned officers, those commis-
Illes fireelved coasidseable expense, and he asked whether
parvisica cam made to enable thou gallant men to
U
testa
r Us* moue attending their outfit? I fear be
studied the estimates ; if he looks to pegs four,
Mill find a sum of five thousand pounds proposed to be
Irrespecially to enable thou tallest men to meet
atilk see. (Hear, hear.) As • proof that we are
lVslWfal of the services of the son-commissioned
mud those to whom commissions have not been
'r
, then is • lees list of non-cosuaiselousd dicers
elawhom good service gratuities for life are
Seib be Rim, amounting to over two thousand
in the same list with the good service pen-
alliiiidicers. Goe hon. gentlemaa has sheaved that tin

*Mien seat to hospital are, on account of the loss ef their
knapsacks, frequently deprived of their halves and forks,
sad other necessaries essential to their ocenfort. An order
has been given to purchase at Mementos a large number of
knives and forks for the hospital at Scutari, for the soldiers
who come unprovided. The hon. member for Aylesbury
sail it wag eseential • proper supply of tents should be pro-
vided far the army for the ensuing campaign. That has
been duly attended to, and they will be furnished with
tents of • sufficiently substantial damription ; notold teats,
but new ones, perfectly fit for the MOOD. It is true, the
French are provided with teats anti mow portable, yet I
venture to say they are by no maim as well adapted to
Protect the 'oldie's from the weather; they are conveaient
for light 'trek*, easily menial, sad easily pat up; but
but the Fir rich officers felt se Mosey their inferiority to
our tents, that the Preaehassand seat to Franco for tents
en our model, feeliag thatiffieyafforded • better protection
in such weather as bistros's were exposed to. The hon.
gentleman also made • mogestbm as to the supply of light
cavalry. It is perfectly Ise that if a supply of light ca-
valry could be obtained boa Alia Minor, it would be better
to go there than to brim them from India, from whence
the expense and difficulties of transport are so great. And
after all, cavalry, p• -haps, might not be so well adapted to
service as • boi.y raised in • neighbouring country, and
accustomed to the character of the (*entry. A suggestion
was made, that we ought to bring distinguis' led °Meta like
Major Outram or Major Edwards§ from India. My right
hon. friend the President of the Board of Control would
have • word to say to that. India must be protected
as well as Sebastopol attacked. These officers occupy
posts of great importance in India. The Governor-
General would not like the government at home to deprive
him of able officers on whose abilities he could count if cir-
cumstances arose which required India to be defended as
well as the Crimea to be invaded. I need not point out to
the house that many circumstances might arise in which it
would be necessary for the Governor-General to employ
mean§ to defend our frontiers in that quarter. The bon.
member for East Surrey (Mr. Drummond) wished to know
what better arrangements would be established by sending
and distributing clothing to our troops la the Crimea. That
is • subject to which the government felt it their duty to
give their earliest attention. We know the great import-
ance not only of sending out—for abundance of everything
was sent—but it is fully as important to make arrangements
by which the things when sent out may reach the men or
hurries for which they are intended. That is where the
defection has existed; for as mach ammunition, forage, and
everything necessary was despatched from this country as
could possibly be required. It will be found, when the subject
is looked into, that there was never sent from this country so
large a force in so short a time so win equipped, and so wall
provided with everything necessity for the comfort of the 1
officers and men, and the purposes of the service for which
they were destined, as the army that left this coun-
try in the course of the year that has just closed.
The defection arose in the want of arrangement for
their receiving what was sent for them. There was,
I think, sir, great truth and farce in an obi ion
made by the member for North Warwickshire (Mr. New-
degate), in answer to the attacks made on the aristocracy—
in that I auppoeis we must include the gentry—(hear, hear)
—it includes the nobility mid gentry—in answer to the
charge that the army would not have been so unfortunate
if the great number of high officers bad not been belonging
to the aristocracy. He made an admirably reply.
There where the system has broken down, there
were evils have arisen from want of capacity,
want of energy, want of intellect and vigour for the
performance of duties, it was in those departments
where the gentry were not, the noblemen ware not, but
which were filled by persons belonging to the other classes
of the community, the commissariat, the medical, end
transport services. The honourable member expressed
• hope that the new clothing would be provided
in time for the ensuing campaign. I can assure him
that meets will be taken to ensues the effectual despatch
of clothes of the proper kind in proper time. I think these
are all the observations that have Isis made. No one dis-
putes the importance of having a lop awl effective army—
no one raised objections to the almonat of force, but only
wished it effective. I trust that begone this and the
opening of the next campaign govennust will have bees
able to organise a sufficient army of nerve to enable
it to bring into the field an army sufficient to cope with any
difficulties it may have to contend with. I am perfectly
'abetted that army will vindicate the honour and maintain
the Interests of their country, if It should be necessary to
continue the war. The experience of the last few months
will enable as to correct errors which have been com-
mitted • and, by re-arranging and re-organising the different
arms of the minute, bring into the field, an army which the
country may well be proud of, and whose services will
deserve the thanks and acknowledgments of this house.

(" Hear," end cheers.)
Colonel SIBTRORP expressed his disapprobation of a
noble lord whose political elsmeter halbsteld have thought
bad been sufficiently essessesil Wag oat to Vienna to
patch up a pesos, of whisk he bed suassly say hope that it
would be one at all creditable to thiessissifq. If that noble
lord should return, he (Colonel fliblbseg) begat to God he
would take any part in polities% lib eenatry again.
(A laugh.) The gallant colonel then bon le praise the
laamiashire Militia Regiment, to whirl be belonged, and
avowed hie loyal resolution to exert hisssidf la defence of
the throne, laws, and religion of this realm
The vote having been agreed to, tegeiber with the fol-
lowing vote of 7,000,0001. for the pay of tbe troops, further
discussion was postponed, and the chairman (at 20 minutes
put 1 o'clock) ordered to report proper.
NEWSPAPER, ate., POSTAGE AND STAMP
DUTIES.
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved in
eemmittee the following resolutions That It is expedient
to Pepsi the exemptieet of newspapers from postage duty ;
it=t7e on newspapers and printed books and papers
by gest MN Of postage not 'residing one
gamy he wiry Nor maws in weight, and for any fru-
itiest' pert of fOtt SOWS j that it is expedient to alter and
amend the laws relating to the stamp duties on news-
men. the printing and publishing of newspapers, and
and giving securities in connexion therewith,
miir4ll regulation of the duties of postage on printed
IVlcsolutions were speed to without remark.