The Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1860-08-03 00:00:00

AUSTRALIA.

SIDNEY (rid Trieste), June 13.
No active measures have yet been taken against
the rebels in New Zealand.
MELBOURNE, June 19.
The commercial depression continues. The
crops are promising. The following are the
departures of gold ships :—The Leaping Water,
with 39,629 ounces ; the Yorkshire, with 42,288
ounces ; and the Maidstone, with 48,784 ounces.
The Fidus has been totally 'wrecked on Kangaroo
Island.

AMERICA.
ARRIVAL OF THE PRINCE OF WALES
AT NEWFOUNDLAND..
ENTHUSIASTIC RECEPTION.
GALWAY,
jtug7York
The steamship Golden Fleece, from New on on the 20th, and St. John's, Newfoundland,
the 26th ult., has arrived here.
Her Majesty's ships Hero and Ariadne arrived
at St. John's on the. 23rd ult,
The Prince of Wales landed °n the 24th, amid
great enthusiasm, received a deputation and
addresses, and held a levee. , On the 25th his Royal nighness attended a
regatta and state ball.
Aiing
26ih D The Prince would leave
suspended.
his presence all businessiton has arrived at South-
York advices of the
The mail-steamer Fulton
ampton. She brin„gin specie for England, and
21st ult., $416,0°',,..- The steamer PentiSylvania,
$150,000 for Fran% Line, was totally. destroyed
of the Philadelphia. near Jamestown ; pas-
by fire in James escaped, except three children.
sengers and cult.
spoke the City of Wa.shinton.
On the 26th
news from. British Columbia were more
encourag
Mining ng. Senator Douglas had commenced
and had been received with t
a political, tour,grea
entlinoaBl;°'
COMMERCIAL.
Ti-Ew
YORK, July 20, 6 P.M.--Stec: Market
active; prices generally lower.'• Money
pretty
a 1,1, dant. Foreign Exchange Market .- less
active. New York Centrals,-82- to 821,; Erie,
22 to 221 ; Michigan Central, 521 to 52-z- ;
Illinois Central, 70-t to 701. Flour and Wheat-,
limited demand ; rather lower. Cof'ee and,
Whiskey, good inquiry. Cotton in fair, request.
Hides dull. 'Metals moderately 4Wt in.' Freights
quiet.
NEW ORLEANS, July 19.—Cottons quiet ; sales,
440 hales; at 10c for . middling. Sugar firm,
71c to Bc. Flour quiet, $5 50c to $5 621 c.
oswgGo, July 20.—Flour, triodercAe demand.
Corn firm. Wheat quiet, and unchanged.
CINCINATTI, July 20.7-.-.Fiour dull. Money
quiet, and unchanged.

The following appeared in our later editions c f
yesterday :
THE MINISTRY AND THE _CUSTOMS
DUTY ON PAPER-0

Mr. Puller has altered his proposed amendment
upon Mr. Gladstone's motion for the reduction of
the present custom duties. In its revised form it
stands as follow :—That, without desiring to pre-
judice the question of a reduction at a future
period of the customs duty on books and paper,
this committee does not think fit, at present, to
assent to such a reduction.

The Morning Herald says, the Government are
endeavouring to make the motion a party question,
and to frighten the House into assenting to the
Chancellor of the Exchequer's motion, by threats
of dissolution and resignation.

BANQUET TO LORD CLYDE.
Last night Lord Clyde was entertained at a
magnificent banquet by the Fishmongers' Com-
pany.
The Prime Warden, in proposing the
health of the noble lord, claimed for him the title
of Pacificator of India.
Lord Clyde, in acknowledging the toast, paid a
high compliment to Earl Canning, the Governor-
General of India, saying that tohim, above all,
does England owe a debt of gratitude. He said
he thought it right that Englishmen should know
the merits of that great man, whose prudence and
calmness in difficulty, whose never disturbed self-
possession exercised so powerful an influence on
the suppression of the mutiny. The noble lord
also spoke of the military capacity of his country-
men. He said, I have been fifty years a soldier,
and I can tell you that the men of England, Ire- -
land, and Scotland, have not deteriorated : they
are as obedient soldiers, when properly officered,
as ever served in the British army.
Admiral Sartorius, who responded to the toast
on behalf of the navy, said that modern warlike
improvements had entirely changed the whole
system of defence, and increased the advantage
of the defence over the attack an hundredfold.
As a seaman, he said it was impossible for any
successful invasion of our shores to take place by
ships. He was not disposed to distrust the
Emperor of the French ; but, he would say, rely
on the courage and decision which had in former
times secured the safety of the country.
Sir Charles Wood was present. The other
Cabinet ministers were attending a privy council
at Osborne.

POLITICAL LEADERS ON THE
EMPEROR'S LETTER.
The Times believes the English people are
disposed to receive this letter in a spirit of a fair
and honourable consideration ; but it cannot see
any reason for discontinuing any of the purely
defensive preparations we have set on foot. We
cannot afford to exist on sufferance ; if we are to
continue a great power it must be by our own
strength, and not by the permission of any one
else. The Times adds, the condition of friendship
between England and France is equality. We
should be most happy to see France reducing the
amount of her forces by land and by sea, because
that would render a similar reduction on our part
possible, but it ought to be clearly understood that
it is by the armaments, and not by the professions,
or even the intentions of France, that we must
measure our military and naval strength. Let
France disarm, and the effect would immediately
be felt in the pacific tendency of every capital in
Europe ; but, so long as she continues her present
state of preparations, she imposes on her neigh-
bours the absolute necessity of maintaining a
corresponding force ; and we trust that we give
no offence to any one by expressing our resolution
to maintain it.

The Herald remarks that if affairs are compli-
cated, and if mistrust has been excited every-
where since the war in Italy, it is the French.
Emperor, and he alone, who is responsible, both
for difficulty and suspicion. But if peace is his,
great object, he will meet with no obstacles from
any English Government. It is only the sense
of danger and of inadequate defence that has.
aroused Englishmen.

THE LIVERPOOL ROYAL BANK.
The city article of the Herald states that Mr..
Hewat, the manager of the London Joint Stock
Bank, who is the agent of the Royal Bank of
Liverpool, went down to Liverpool on Tuesday,
and returned yesterday. His report is. stated to
be most encouraging.
After noticing the slight run on the bank, in
consequence of the erroneous reports of losses
from failures in the leather trade, the Times city
article says the available assets of the bank ine
cash and good bills are unquestionably large, and:
adds that the tendency to distrust steadily sub-
sided.

THE EMPEROR'S LETTER AND THE
STOCK EXCHANGE.

The Herald's city article says that the profes-
sions were considered to be expressed in so un-
equivocal a manner, that the speculators who had
sold for the fall evidently sought to terminate
their engagement at the first sacrifice.
The Daily News says there was during the day
a strong supposition to believe the professions of
amity as marking a real improvement in the
political situation, and as adjourning indefinitely
the prospect of a rupture between England and
France.

The Times' city article admits the very favour-
able impression created by the letter, but states
that by the more cautious portion of the mercan-
tile community it is regarded simply as a move
to counteract the effect of the epooeh of Lord
Palmerston on the fortification question.

No intelligence has yet been receiNc4 flit
over-due Calcutta and China mails.

The estate of Messrs. Freeland Bros,, of Man-.
Chester, shows less than 2s. Qd. in the pound.
John Fenton was executed at Nottingham,
yesterday, for the murder of Charles. Spencer,
The prisoner made no. direct confession.

COURT AND TABLE TALK.

OSBORNE, August 1.
Her Majesty, accompanied by Princess Alice, cm,
barked in the Fairy yesterday afternoon, and wentt over.
to Southampton to meet His Royal Highness the prince,
Consort on his return from the Wel%top College.,
The Countess of Desert and Major -•-•-ntA Plat were in at
tendanee.

His Royal Highness
Prince Arthur accompanied the
Prince Consort in his visit to the College
Her Majesty's dinner party includes} their Royal High-
nesses the Princess Alice and the Hereditary Grand
Duke and Duchess of Mecklenburg-Streliti; his Serene
Highness Prince Philip of Wurtemberg, Lady,CarolineCust,
Miss Hon t' ia Seymour, and Baron Wenckstern.
Colonel the Hon. A. Hood and Major Du Plat-ixare,
succeeded Major-General the Hon. C. Grey 4,0 Col,
oriel the Hon. A. Hardinge as Equerries to fae Queen,
and Prince.

SHIPS BUILDING IN CHATIIADI,--- The following
screw steam ships building in this dockyard are rapidly
proceeding with ----Rattlesnake, 21 guns; BulWark, 91;
Royal Oak, 81 ; Reindeer, 17 ; Undaunted, 51 ; and
Belvidere, 51. The Undaunted will very soon be
launched, thereby adding another of our powerful steam
ships to the.division of the steam reserve fleet. In dock
is the Arethesa, 51, and the Bombay, 80:
PURI,F, LITERATURE SOCIETY OR LONDON.—The last
report of the society contains the follewing paaagraph :
consequence of the public discussion on tla,e,
accounts of charitable societies, the committee deemed
it advisable to submit their books to the, inspwtion of
a public accountant, and the firm of Messrs. Quitter,
Ball, and Jay was selected for that purpose. These
gentlemen report : We found the. accounts carefully
and accurately kept, and duly supported by vouchers.'
EXECUTION AT igGT.IIN(4,IIASI--On. Wednesday morn-,
ing, John Fenton underwent the extreme penalty of the
law in front of the County Gaol, .Nottingham. Tne
prisoner, It will be remembered, was convicted of the
wilful murder of Charley Spencer, at Walkeringhans, on.
the 6th March. The prisoner underwent his •sentente
with great firmness. He stepped slowly and steadily
u the scaffold (having previously requested the execu-
tioner to keep him as short a time as possible), lifted hio
eyes to heaven, and, apparently engaged in prayer for a,
few seconds. Re scarcely struggled or gave the least
sign of life afier the drop fell. He has made no direct
confession, but has left a statement which amounts to,
an admission of guilt. Re says that he did not commit
the murder, but that he was present and lent the mazy
his pistols to commit the vikurder„ and that he had part
of the booty. Ths,a, statement is utterly inconsistent
with the evidence. The unfortunate man took leave of
his moiher, wife, and children (three in number), on
Saturday. The interview Was a very affecting one.
Askren, the same man who hung Dove, was the execu
tioner. The. prisoner' stated before his death that if the,
itnife, which was found upon him, had -not been taken,
ayray, he would not have appeared on the scaffold.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS.--YESTERDAY
The Mines Regulation and Inspection Bill was read a third
time and passed.
The Landlord and Tenant (Ireland) Bill passed through
committee, after a long discussion.
Several other bills were advanced a stage, and the House
adjourned at quarter to twelve.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—YEsTERDAY.
The Speaker took the chair at four o'clock.
Sir GEOROE BOWYER asked the Secretary of State for Foreign
Affairs whether Government had received any inforMation
that the inhabitants of Milazzo resisted the attack of the revo-
Mtionary troop3,-and that Garibaldi having taken possession,
punished with death 39 of the inhabitants for having fought
against him, and in defence of the rights of their sovereign.
Lord J. RUSSELL replied that he had received no information
on the subject.
Lord PALMMISTO>4 in making a motion for regulating the
business of the House, having asked the House to recognise
the services of its various functionaries,

Mr. HAmßraroer begged the House not to forget the services
of the silent members, whose patience and endurance under
severe trials were beyond all praise.

The House having resumed, the Committee on Fortifications
and Works,

Mr. LINDSAY moved as an amendment a resolution that, as
' the main defence of Great Britain against aggression depends
va an efficient navy, it is not now expedient to enter into a
large expenditure on permanent land fortifications. He pointed
out, in a long speech, the immense expense, not less than
£50,090,000, to'' which the proposals of the Commissioners
would lead. Adverting to the recent letter of the Emperor of
the French as a solemn pledgeof his intentions, he avowed his
lull faith in the sincerity of that pledge. France had neither
army nor navy too large forher requirements. He pointed out
the enormous risk which an invading army would run, and
the practical difficulties it would have to encounter. Even if
the plan were carried out, we should not yet be safe. Hun-
dreds of miles of coast would be undefended, by means of
which London, Liverpool, Manchester, and all our great

towns might be reached. There was no knowing where all
this would end whenever a rumour of danger was spread.
Steam, of which so much had been said, was more in our
favour than against us. In the hour of danger a million of
volunteers would annihilate to a man the invading army. Our
best defence was our trust in a happy, united, and contented
people.

Mr. Bruise's :I- gnotcd Lycurgue to show the uselessness of
stone walls, and asked why,we were to abandon that means of
defence which had served us so long, and through so many
dangers—our navy. He read a letter from Sir Maurice
Berkeley, declaring the fortification.propoeal to be a monstrous
absurdity, originating in absurd panics, and calling on tke
House to trust its navy, which, if put in proper order, would
be amply sufficient against all dangers. That latter further
urged the establishment of a Channel force, reserved singly for
-service in the Channel. For himself, he contended that there
was nothing in the report of the commissioners to induce them
to take their defence out of the hands of the Admiralty, and
Taus' it in the hands of the War-offlee. Would the Duke of
somerset—would the Secretary to the Admiralty in that
House—ventpre to stand up and to declare themselves unable
to meet the dangers to which the country might be
exposed. The most distinguished services in history
had been performed by the Royal Navy, raw levies, and volun-
teers e and he denied the assertion of the commissioners that
the British volmiteere would not be able to face an invading
Amy. He asked what we were doing with our rifled guns, of
-which it appeared that there were but two in the Royal Navy,
while France had six hundred, and even Portugal had a
supply. If we once lost the command of the sea, we lost
everything. The best way to fight a Frenchman was to take
him when he was sea-sick upon our own element, to which we
had trusted eo long---the water.
Mr. SIDNEY HERBERT denied these facts. France had
not 600 rifled guns, while in England they had been for
some time delivering twelve rifled guns a week to the
navy, and they had no less than twelve batteries armed with
rifled cannon. Replying to Mr. Lindsay, he said that in the
opinion of. the first, Napoleon invasion was perfectly possible,
not to conquer the country,. but to waste and ravage it. No
one doubted that our main defence lay in our navy, nor
was it for a moment proposed to transfer that defence
from the Admiralty to the War-office, But the introduc-
tion of steam had greatly altered the conditions of warfare.
In reference to the letter of the Emperor, he did not doubt the
sincerity of its assertions; but circumstances were sometimes
stronger than men. The Emperor was at this moment
•stringtheiting the forts of Cherbourg, of L'Orient, of Brest,
of Rochefort, and of Toulon. Ile had less reason than we
have, inasmuch as our forts• are at present- much weaker.
We had assembled at our depots the Largest assemblage
of maritime property in the world, and we had made
no adequate attempt to defend them, and it was incum-
bent, upon us to create defences sufficient against sadden
attacks, which might ruin sour arsenals and destroy our
materials. In the old war, French ships had more than once
effected a landing on our shores, and got safely back again,
without the assistance of steani, and under many discourage -
ments. Modern inventions had rendered more easy all mai-
:retry movements; and, as a consequence, all European nations
were strengthening their defences. No nation, when once its
,sea line was forced, was so dependant on fortifications as Eng-
land, with its smell regular army and irregular bodies of de-
fensive troops. We were not in that state of defence fitting so
great, powerful, and rich a nation, whose duty it was to remove
from foreign nations the temptation to attack it. If they were to
trust to Spartan principle, they might disregard the experience,
art, and science of those best conversant with the subject. He
thought better of the House, and called upon it to support the
resolution. It was not by any means of defence, but by
corpbiaation of all, that we could be safe from the appre-
hension of danger. The expense was small compared with the
enormous interests the proposed schemes were intended to
protect, and which would secure us not against actual attack,
but against the contemplation of it by foreign powers.
Mr. BRIGHT said that the amendment before the House so
far superseded the amendment of which lie had himself given
notice that he should forbear to press it. The question n9W
before them involved an enormous expenditure, as in his
opening speech the minister adopted to the full the views of
the commissioners.. Estimates always ended by being doubled,
and he felt assured that the ultimate coat would be at least
£20,000,000 spent in carrying out the propositions. Further
than this, an increase of 70,000 men to the standing army
would be necessary to the defence of the works. Were these
propositions the result of the opinions of a united Cabinet, or was
it a compromise between jarring principles! Military authorities
were equally at variance. As for the commissioners, he never
knew an act of greater stupidity--to use a less offensive term, a
greater act of lunacy than their report. Military officers told them
Sn put their trust in the army ; naval officers were for the navy ;
engineers for fortifications ; and the result would be that the
industry of the country would be utterly absorbed by the
expense of defending it. If they could get rid of
the Foreign Office, its head, the noble lord, its follies,
and its. superstitions, they might at the same time get
yid ,of the cost of the I:Alley it involved, and trust to
their yelunteers, for • their defence. He ridiculed the alarm
.excited by French pamphlets which were merely written by
persons hostile to the actual government, and who hoped that,
loy plunging it into war, they might overturn, it. After quo-
ting' at length the various schemes propounded M various
pamphlets, he amused the House with their extravagance. Ile
analysed the report of the Commissioners, declaring that he
had never read an official document so illogical, incoherent,
aid absurd. He pointed out at length the inconsistencies and
iellies of the report, and the absurdities of many of the answers
of the witnesses examined. He begged the House to follow
the example of the Duke of Wellington, when, as mini-
sterael he brought forward sensible and moderate
estimates, rather than, when in his old age, he
became irritable and incautious. Reverting to the french
treaty, he declared that we had added immensely to our navy
in the last two years, while France only carried out plans long
sanctioned and decided. A comparison of the expenses of the
two countries proved the inferiority of the • navy of France.
We spent fl 3,000,000 or £14,000,000, while our neighbour spent
but £5,000,000 0r5t6,000,000. No doubt the people of England
were ready with their money, but it was because they ware
frightened bythe,cohtemptible cowardice of Cabinet Ministers.
On this head he spooned speeches of Lords Palmerston and
Russell last year, in which they energetically deprecated the
needless alarm and suspictions excited against France. Ever
:since the downfall of ,Louis Philippe the English Government
had united itself on all great nnestions with that of France,
and they were called upon to adopt a line of conduct which
marked all the previous policy as false and absurd. Even if
elite present proceeding of the ministry war, prudent, the man-
ner in which it was introduced was most imprudent, and he
had heard ot none who did not dearly regret the tope adopted
b/ Lord Palmerston in the speech whereby he introduced the
resolution. We were once told that the reign of Viceoria was
se be a reign of peace, but now everything in the court and in
the people was warlike, and a dangerous spirit was universally
.infused into the nation, through the ignorance of the masses,
the seamours of the service, and the want of courage in the
Ministry. At this moment the United States had a population
equal to that of England, and the entire governmental expense
was 12,900000. Could England continue to spend £70,000,000
;without ultimate ruin? Our extravagance would end as it •
endedin other nations,---an exiled and an overthrown aristo-
cracy. For these eesssone, he opposed to the utmost the reso-
lutions of the made lord not less in,the interest of the people
than of the monarchy itself,
esesepeciere obserred that ge speech just made would
„es,. wepeopriate if we were preparing an expedition
have "rv"„„„ee'r one it had little to .do with proposal to defend
against • `-t The olutipn was ded en the simple
ce And it was because' Mr• Bright did not
our arsena.."
principle of de.
'4neet' 'he independent that ho o
snowed it.
wish the country ded that many Of the propoeed fate.
Sir, . OGLDSMIT contended
tenuin ana. that ,the
fication works were altogether unnecessary'
wotrities must
mode of tattooing the Mone,fr
ee,nnder
entail an annual ,charge
m, ° Low the required to
trk
ulPclulerger than
more:economical methods 0. el he motion, believing that the
Lord R. MONTAGUE. supported t .
• esarb if only to prevent the
sproposed fortifications were ne-e
tentrreaes of invasion panics. s were squandered use-
Mr. WHITE suspected that vast Alin hit would be better
lessly in the naval establishments, an4thllgur arsenals before
to inquire into the condition and cost F
etOr their defence.
embarking into an enormous expenditure event would
Touching invasion, he thought that even set a.lt A classes in
not be an unmitigated calamity, as it would hill , .sitv of
the country together, and, by attesting the spirit
BALtfian
the working men, secure for them a better Reform
had everbeenoffered before. '
Sir C. NAPIF,R related the result of his observations made at " 4
different periods, touching the rapid improvement
o
f the
French navy and the difficulty of increasing the British fleet.
Matters had latterly improved, and if a sufficient naval arma-
ment were but kept up, invasion would be rendered impossible.
Land fortifications were sheer absurdities.
Mr. CORRY maintained that the English navy was still inade-
quate for the defence of the county.
Mr. B. OSBORNE enquired why the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer had told the House nothing about this vote for fortilis
cations when bringing forward his budget in February. The.
tiovernment owed explanations on this point, and the House
-should not grant the money until it got them. He enlarged upon
the inconsiedeney of building defensive works against French
'attach at the vary moment that they had concluded a treaty of
peace and, commerce with France. Neither the state of the
-navy or of'the array in France justified the vote now proposed
in the Prime BLipieter's speech, when introducing it. He
'objected to the' report of the commissioners because the plan
of defence it suggested,rvas vague, fragmentary, and incom-
plete, and because the estimate of expense was manifestly
loose and inaccurate. He could not support any vote which
comprised a large expendituee.for land fortifications.
After some explanation from Mr. .Sydney Herbert,
Mr. Honsmeer defended the Commissioners and their report,
4nd expressed his thanks to the War Secretary for the care and
sincerity with which he was preparing to carry out this recom-
mendation. He also eulogised the speech of Lord Palmerston
and the policy of his administration on the question of defences.
-It HaS not only our national interests that were involved inthe
issue at steke, but with the safety of England were bound up
the prospects of peace and progress and freedom for the whole
.world.

:qt. F. SMITH approved of the plan of defence so far as
related to seaward fortifications, but censured the proposal to
construct expensive works on the landside. They could never
be attacked ; 01 if attacked would require an army to defend

Lord FAtmEasrost replied in turn to yarto" us speeches pre-
,v-„ously delivered by opponents of the Ministerial propositions.
Cn the general question, he observed that the greg object to
be obtained was to secure the dockyards and their precious
contents from a ,coup de main. The proposed fortifications
wouil accomplish that end, and in effect release a large number
of troops for service in the field. He proceeded to com-
bat the assertion that Ministers apprehended any inter-
ruption o,° amicable relations with Prance, or were inconsistent
in advocating at the same time a scheme of defence and a
treaty of commerce. Strength at home was. the high assurance
for the maintenance of peace with all the world.
Mr Barour protested against the Ministerial attempts to
pledge the House on very imperfect information to the con-
struction of works whose expense might prove almost incal-
culable.
Mr. MoNtELL moved as an amendment, an addition to .the
resolution setting forth ,
the in
expediency of fortifying Ports-
mouth-hill', near Portsmouth.
After sonie remarks from Mr. Newdegate and Mr. V, Senliv.
Mr. S. 111,12.3ERT, on behalf of the Government, opposed the
amendment.
Further observations were offered Lord Palmerston, Mr.
B•_Osborne, Captain Jervis, and other members.
un a division, the amendment Was negatived by 165 to 37 ;
majority, 128.4
Sir M. Peto having briefly spoken in Opposition to the scheme
fo,r ut,fe the committee divided. For the resolution, 268;
foree amendment, 39; majority, 229.
resolution which granted £2,000,000 for tha expense of
te !Isions and works during the year, was then agreed to.
of til7
.itollse resumed, and 'having disposed of the other orders
"47, adjourned at twenty minutes past two.