The Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1860-08-03 00:00:00

Their interest was to encourage Mr. Logan to put up
the most valuable works he could upon the land in
question, which would ensure the trade being continued ;
they should then, in renewing the lease, or letting it
for a rental, reap all the advantage. What was the
rent proposed ? Eighteenpence a yard. Was that a
low rent ? Compare it even with Liverpool ; take the
shipbuilding Yards east of Brunswick Dock and those
in front of Trentham-street, and did not all those
tenants enjoy them at Is. 6d. a yard ? Were they to
suppose that in fifteen years they should get double that
at Birkenhead ? His (Mr. Smith's) notion of Birkenhead
was a very vague one. He supposed the land was to be
considered as of the value of 4s. or ss. a yard by
and by. Now, what was the risk the board ran ? Mr.
Logan would have a part of Mr. Laird's lease; and, if
Mr. Logan and Mr. Laird agreed, the board could not
have the use of the road leading to the frontage of the
water. Could that piece of land be of such importance
they could say that on no terms at all would they let it
on rental ? He should support Mr. Laird's amendment,
and never gave, a vote in his life he thought more con-
ststent with his honest duty.

Mr. LOCKETT—What is the frontage ?
The CHAIRMAN—I don't know what the frontage is,
hut the quantity of land is 20,860 yards.
Mr. SMITH—He has a very small frontage.
Mr. LOCKETT—If we grant this to Mr. Logan, is it
not a point of honour to give Mr. reto an extension of
his lease ?

Mr. SMITH—The Canada Company me in litigation
with you now for compensation. They are totally
different cases.

Mr. BROCKLEBANK replied. Having a large estate
on the north of the p,),-)1, it, was considered advisable
to get rid of that first, considering that there could be no
difficulty in letting the land on the south side of the
Pool. They had issued advertisements accordingly,
offering the land at the north end. Messrs. Tod,
Naylor, and Co., had taken a piece at the extreme west
of the north end ; and other parties who would pro-
bably (lorry on a larger business in the copper ore trade
than Mr. Logan would do, also took some of that land.
Now the probability was that if the board had not
refused to let land on the south side, these parties would
rather have been to the south. Mr. Logan had refused
to go A the north, but got hold, instead, of this lease of
Mr. Holme. He took that lease with his eyes open,
and he maintained, therefore, they committed no injus-
fine in refusing to giye him an oftensio.n of time,
The board then divided on Mr. Laird's amendment,
which was lost by a majority of 17 to 11, and the pro-
ceedings were then confirmed. The following is the
division :

For—Messrs. Arnold, Darbyshire, Laird, Littledale,
Rankin, Segar, and Smith.

Against--Messrs. Boult, Brocklebaak, Bushell, Evans;
Forwood, Inman, Lockett, Mondel, Rounthwaite, Tobja,
and the Chairmam

TILE WARRIOHSE COMHITTEE.--THE FIRE AT THE

STANLEY DOCK WAREHOUSES.
The following communications were then read :
Harbour Master's Office, August 2nd, 1860.
Sta,—l beg to report that at ten o'clock last night, word was
passed to my house, that the Stanley Dock Warehouses were
on fire. I immediately went to the dock, and found that the
fire was in the east cginpattraent of the upper romps of the
north stack,k. Fearing that a change of wind might endanger
the vessels in the'do'ck, I ordered several to be removed into
the Collingwood Dock, which orders were promptly carried
out, under the directions of the assistant Ilarb,cair master, rmrth
division, assisted by the squth assistant harbour master, and
the =Stets of the neighbouring docks, the pier masters, and
dock gatemen; being tide time, as many of the gatemen as
c.uild be spared were mustered.
The chairman of the board, and the chairman of the Docks
and Quays Committee were soon on the spot, and having
inspected the rooms adjoining and underneath the seat of the
fire, remained until the police pronounced the fire to be under
control.

I visited the fire agaN thit uonl#!fi tit nine o'cluck, And
fotind men employe4 clearing the left 4f the otton, some of
which wss still b4rniri.g.
As you will be furnished with a detailed accou ;of the occur-
rence from the head constable, I have mereirro add that all
the officers present, from the police and docks, exerted them-
selves in the most praiseworthy manner.---I am, sir, your
obedient servant,

THONIAS HOUGEETON, Harbour Master
Daniel Mason, Esq., tkuperintendent.

Dockyard, August 2, ISGO.
DRAR SIR,---Will you be so good as inform the committee
that I bare had the Stanley warehouse (which was last night
subjected to a lire) examined, and find that all the building
has suffered in the top of its roof (mainly of titnber) and the
walls immediately supporting it. The upper floor and all be-
low its surface is, as far as can at present be known, in its
Previous perfect state.
If the extent of iatiage is riot beyond what can at present
be Seer}, the cost o• repair will be about £1,5.0. I am, dear
sir, yours truly, JESSE. HARTLEY.
Dock Manager, Dock-office.
Mr. ARNOLD, as chairman of the committee, also

made a statement in reference to the affair. The fire
was confined to the top room of the eastern division,
and that floor contained about 900 bales cf cotton, a
large portion of which bad been taken in that day. The
origin of the fire was at present unknown, but a search-
ing investigation would be made. They had heard Mr.
Hartley's estimate of the damage to the building, and

there would be a large salvage of cotton. He was not
present during the fire ; but he believed the chairman
was, and could corroborate what he had beard of the
efficient service rendered by, the fire brigade. He
believed the conduct of their superintendent was also
highly praiseworthy.

The Cuaiumkii dick so with pleasure, Major Greig
was there, and their thanks were also due to Captain
Luckeraft, R.N., who had some of the marines there.
Everybody worked in the best way and in the most
efficient manner.

Mr. Foawoon thought they should be. wanting in
their duty if they did not take that opportipi;tr Of setting
an example liy nri evuninatiGn quit6'beyond what they
were accustomed to have carried oat, as to the cause
and origin of the fire. It. was one of the most impor-
tant questions affecting the safety of the port, for they
had a vast. quantity of property which was combustible.
A report had got afloat even as to the management of
the Stanley Dock, that there was not a miler super-
vision over the men, cod this fire, from all appearances
at present (no doubt these were mere rumours), might
have arisen from that frightful system to which they
were exposed—that was, allowing the men to smoke.
He thought some proper plan might be taken for search-
ing the men at certain periods while they were at work,
and by so doing they should he setting an example to
the town. It had been suggested to the Corporation
that coroners might examine into fires; but he thought
if the Warehouse Committee would exercise supervision,
the end might be served. There was one scrims
matter in connection with the enquiry. They
had been apt to consider goods in dock ware-
houses almost incapable of being burned. Many.people
did not even insure in those warehouses ; and they
should endeavour to put aside the impression that there
was in considerable risk there. It had been stated that
a part of the wall had fallen into the dock ; he hoped
that would net create an obstruction to the "trade there.
The question might be investigated whether they had
plugs sufficient, or whether should have a steam fire-
engine. \.

Mr. TOBIN said on a former occasion he wished to
call attention to the state of the Albert Warehouses, as
to the risk by fire. Passing up and down the river, he
could not but be alarmed at seeing the windows of the
Albert Warehouses unnecessarily opened, and a fleet of
steam-tugs firing up outside, for there was but a short
distance between the warehbusea qii4 the pierhead.
had always felt alarmed that there would some day be a
great fire there, for though the buildings were fireproof
there was no sufficient guard. They required such an
occurrence as this fire at the Stanley Warehouses to
obviate a danger of the kind.
Mr. RANKIN called attention to the fact that there
was a deficiency of water at the fire. • These buildings,
standing so low, they should have had a force of water
the moment the plugs had been opened, but this was
not so.

Mr. Smrra believed it was a fact. They considered
they were as efficiently prepared to meet a danger of
that kind as they could possibly be, They had fire
apparatus in every passage of those warehouses ; but he
believed they were a blank, as there was very little
pressure for some time, till the water had been turned
from certain mains into other mains ; and he strongly
suspected that all the eNpense the town had been put to
for Rivington water (and one of the grandest features of
which was to be security from fire), would be perfectly
useless till they had mains for that purpose and for the
distribution of the ordinary supply. Until then, they
could never have a proper pressure or an abundant
supply.

:The CHAIRMAN could confirm what Mr. Smith said
as to the fire in the first instance ; he did not get there
till nearly twelve o'clock ; but he was informed that
before the other mains had been turned off, an attempt
was made with the plugs in the warehouse to flood the
floor of the place on fire, but there was not sufficient
pressure to do it. As regarded the falling of the wall,
it was the coping which had given way, and a few bricks
only had come down. As Mr. Forwood knew, smoking
was strictly prohibited in their warehouses, and a man
suspected of smoking would be instantly dismissed. Bat
the difficulty of stopping a thing of that kind, though not
insuperable, was very great. Matches were carried in the
men's pockets, and often the very care they took to pre-
vent smoking might occasion a fire, because the moment
the man heard a footstep, the lighted pipe was stuck
into a cotton bale ! If Mr. Forwood could give any
hint how it could be prevented, he would render one of
the greatest possible services which could be.
Mr. ARNOLD said the men were always searched oa
going in and out of the docks where these warehouses
were ; and he was iIIiOTTAKI OEtt 450. during the day
casual searches were made of the men. There was no
injury to the depth of water in the dock by any fall of
debris. Ile had heard a deal about the deficient pres-
sure of water, and was told that this fire could have
been put out with the loss of only half a dozen bales ;
but they had to wait for nearly half ati, lour before they
could get sufficient water. 'There Vils. get danger in
storing cotton ; but they took greater pains in the sto-
rage of nitrate of soda, though it was extremely difficult
to set on fire.
Mr, SNITIE said the fire showed that there was an

advantage and a disadvantage in fire-proof warehouses.
The advantage was that the next floors were perfectly
dry—the water had rushed out of the doorways. The
disadvantage was, that, the heat had been so great it had
caused an expansion of the beams, which forced out the
walls,'and it was a remarkable thing that this bulge
went round the building in a straight line.
The proceedings of the Marine Committee were then
read,—the Chairman, in reference to Mr. Tobin's cau-
tion, hoping that. the committee would take care and try
as much as possible to prevent steam-tugs drawing up
alongside the Albert Dock walf,—and, after a reply from
Mr. Mondel and some conversation on the subject,—the
proceedings were confirmed, as were those also of the
Pilot Committee.

John Parry, who had been twenty-four years as a
pier-master in the service in the trust, was voted 20s. a
week out of the charitable fund.

The tender of Messrs. Conway and Co., for supplying
uniform suits for the pier-masters, dock gatemen, &c.,
was accepted ; as was also the tender of Mr. Henry
Gibson, for the supply of hats

Several communications of minor interest were then
read and disposed of, and the board adjourned:

WORKHOUSE COMMITTEE.

Mr. Cropper presided at the weekly meeting of this
committee, held yesterday in the board-room, at the

workhouse.

The governor's return showed that the number in the
house was I,B4o—an increase of 40 on the number of
the preceding week, and of 27 compared with the cor-
responding week of last year. There were 917 -in the
hospital.

THE NI'KENNA CIifT,DT/TN

It appeared from the governor's repi,rt book, that the
girl NPKenna, who a week or two ago. was at her own
request registered as a Roman Catholic, had expressed a
wish to go with her brothers to the Protestant place of
worship.

Mr. DENTON said the committee had spent a
great deal of time in the investigation, and it was
rather annoying to find that all their labour had
been lost. The matter looked to him very suspicious,
and he thought there must have been some under-
current at work with regard to these two children.
The boy had told them that he was a Protestant, that
he would he a Protestant, and kept to that determination
all the time that he was before the committee. The
girl said she was a Roman Catholic, and was determined
to remain a Roman Catholic. They returned to the
house, and it appeared that the girl now turned round
and said that she would be a Protestant ; and the boy
declared that he would be a Roman Catholic. (Laughter,)
He should be glad to know under whose eontrol the
children had been placed while in the workhouse ? He
was almost i,Aeliiled to have another investigation.
The OHAIRMAN said Mr. Denton had received infor-
mation contrary to the report of the governor, and
asked if he was sure it was correct.

Mr. DENTON replied that he had been informed that
such was the case, and wished to know how they were
going to be registered when sent to the Industrial
Schools.

Mr. Peck paid tney were only transferring to the
Industrial Schools a very great bother, which they had
had themselves. (Laughter.)
The GOVERNOR, who had been sent for, stated that
the girl had expressed a wish to become a Protestant,
but that the boys still kept to their determination, and
expresSed no wish to change their religion.
After this explanation, and some further coxger-
sation on the subject,
The CHAIRMAN knidi tikey could not entertain the
matter fßrtlrer, and must leave it to the Industrial
Scirools to deal with.

The remainder of the business was formal.

THE HEALTH COMMITTEE.

The usual monthly meeting of this body was held
yesterday at the Town-1141,1. In the absence of the
chairtnan, AU. Sheil presided, and the other members
present were Messrs. Cronin, Ridley, Haydock Beckwith,
Nickson, Job, Bowring, and Steel.
The Borough Engineer, Building Surveyor, and
Inspector of Nuisances, reported various particulars of
the operations in their several departments, from which
it appeared that 180 nuisances coniplained of by
inhabitants had been inspected, and means taken to
retne4y tllen; ; 1,437 houses in the unhealthiest districts,
containing 4,656 apartments and 916 cellars, had been
put under examination with the view of improving their
sanitary condition.
Dr. Cameron, acting on behalf of the medical officer
of health, reported that the number of deaths in the
borough, registered in the weet ending Saturday, the
28th of July, Enoiluteci to 192,—being 43 less than the
corrected average for the corresponding week of the last
ten years. Zymotic diseases occasioned 45 deaths, of
which 25 were from diarrhoea, .5 fever, .5 scarlet fever, 8
measles, and 2 hooping cough. Diseases of the lungs
caused 53 deaths ; diseases of the brain, 10 ; convulsions
and paralysis, 15 ; diseases of the 040, ; dropsy, 4 ;
diseases of the liver, 4 ; ; and old age, 5.

pr. Cameron, in answer to Mr. Nickson, said there
were no cases of diphtheria this week; there were three
or four cases last week.

Mrs. Mary Elizabeth Pole wrote to the committee,
complaining that Mr. Jones, builder, had opened out a
gateway at the corner of Hope-street and Faulkner-
street, and opposite to her property, to its m,a4ifest
injury.—A committee of three members was appointed
to investigate the subject of complaint.
Mr. called attention to the fact of a hoist
being used at the new premises (Mr. Councillor John-
son's) in Craven-street, London-road, although its use
had been prohibited by the committee.
Mr. McGowww stated, that since the fact was learned,
there had not been time to institute 4 prosecution.
It, appeared that nqtices to drain having been served
on the owners of property in Richmond-terrace, White-
tield-lane, and that they could not agree amongst them-
selves upon the subject, it was ordered that the matter
should be brought before the magistrates for adjudi,-
cation.

The following letters werg Te,ad, amidst some merri-
ment :

33, Kensington, July 29, 1860.

May it please your Worship,—Haying for a long period of
time been occupied with writing to the Health Committee on
'natters referred to in the enclosed without effect, beyond
Promises, your worship would confer a great boon an many
parties affected by the nuisances complained of if It would
please your worship to press these matters on the attention of
the said Health Committee.

I have the honour to be your worship's most humble and
obedient servant, R. C. ARCHER.
To the Worshipful the Mayor.

TO THE CHAIRMAN OF THE HEALTH COMMITTEE.
SlR,—This and the enclosed are occupyin? time which should
have been spent in church. Whether your committee qr I are
to blame is a question that I do not introit to discuss ; but I
may just remark tbat nrobably sonic of you have within the
last tew months listened to a sermon for, and contributed to a
vollection in aid of the funds of, some scheme for the propaga-
tion of the Gospel in foreign parts, and thought, perhaps, that
this was only an act of Christian charity. But, on the other
hand, will your committee be so good as to ask yourselves—
What has been done at home ? What has been done in Gas-
coyne-street to get rid of filth, stink, ignorance, and depravity,
that the Hottentot of Africa knows not .of ?

Yea, sir, by perpetuating a nuisance that yon ha'e promised
to remedy you fasten the very wont of characters to this spot,
and so prevent a well-disposed person from living here, or a
landlord from getting a respectable tenant. In short, your
committee seem to have forgotten that " cleanliness is next to
godliness."

In conclusion, I would remark that it is not very much to
the credit of the members of the Town Council that a disgust-
ing and disgraceful nuisance of this nature should be perpe-
tuated. while there is no expenditure, however lavish, too
great for localities frequented by the wealthy. St. George's
Hall follies and boulevard tomfoolery find numbers of sup-
porters, while an absolutely necessary act, to promote clean,
liness and decency, is prevented, where the parties in the
neighbourhood to be b.enalitted are poor. Surely such penny
wisdom is unworthy of a Liverpool Town Council.

Yours, in., R. C. ARCHER.
TO THt CHAIRMAN OF THE HEALTH COMMITTEE.

33, Kensington, July 29, 1860.

SLR,---Notwithstanding oft-repeated assurances that this
matter should have early attention, still the disgusting stink
remains, a strong evidence of the indefatigable industry of
your committee, and of the great business capacity which
ever distinguishes its operations, a capacity particularly
observable in a member of your committee, who•lstely immor-
taliseql4mseif cm the page of history by a neat and singularly
creditable (1) arrangement of the smoke inspectorship.---( See
report in Liverpool Mercury of Friday last.)
By the way, as matters of simple cleanliness seem to be
beneath the notice of so illustrious a body as the Health Com-
mittee, would it not be well to take into consideration, in
November neat, the propriety of appointing a sub-cotate
of old ladies, of the feminine gender, to attend to tirlte 71:111*
matters of simple cleanliness, and so save your va'uable tit*,
to be devoted to nobler ackevenlents than the low occupatOn
of simply attendirlg to matters of health.---I am, sir, respell•
fully, your obedient servant, R. C. ARCUEIL
Note.---Please let this be read to the general committee
before going through the usual process of shelving.
Mr. BEcKWITH—Who is Mr. Archer ?

Mr. McGowan—A house-agent, I believe. (~ Oh !)
Mr. NEWLANDS said the manure wharf in Gascoigne-
street, was not theirs. The sewer in Kensington-street
was completed long ago. The committee were now
making a sewer in Holborn-street, at the back of Ken-
sington, which would drain the houses where Mr.
Archer lived.

Mr. BnexwtTA-70h, it is his own house he wants
drained. Better shelve the letters, as he says.
The Doc 4 ENGINEER submitted tracing of the
proposed paving for George's Pier; and
This closed the business.

ACCIDENTAL DEATH.—Yesterday William M‘Nulty,
43 years of age, fell into the hold of a steamer lying in
the Clarence Dock, and received such injuries that he
died in the Northern Hospital soon afterwards.
THE GREAT FIRE AT 'um STANLEY DOCIC--There
are few additional particulars to communicate in con-
nexion with this destructive contiagratiO4.
The num-
ber of bales in the place where the
.re occurred was
900, and the damage done to the building is estimated
at £1,5c9. 411 the 1054 will be Covered by insurance.
All anfortunata accident occurred to Mr. Anderson,
;
of the Norwich Union Insurance he was busily engaged
in assiging the firemen, when he was knocked down,
and seriously injured by a portion of the falling walls:
He was removed to the Northern Hospital, where he is
at present in a precarious state, •