The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
Dorchester, Dorset, England, 1861-04-23 00:00:00

THURSDAY.

pot by Sir S. Nortbcote,
r otinfotlise Exchequer explained in some
Tinhe reCrliilan t°
Chancellor
detail the proportion of the vote of credit taken for the
China war actually expended, and why • further vete
of credit was likely to be required when there appeared
to be an unexpended aurultis On the vote taken last year,
observing that, from their nature, there was much un-
certainty ett•ching to all votes of credit.
On the order for going into &Committee of Supply,
Sir F. Smith made inquiries respecting the central
depot for the War Department stores, and the work'
provided fur in the vote taken !ask year far fortifications,
sooompanying his questions with remarks upon the ex-
pediency of some of thaw works.
Colonel Dickson entered urn • general criticism
the Army Estimates, complaining of their enormous
amount in relation to the number of the troops. He
thought Weis estimates were not based noon true
emerany, being open to the objection of pareiniony in
scene Y•spods and pransave extravagance In others.

He concluded by moving that the consideration of the
intimates be deferred, with a view to their revision.
Mr. T. G. Baring observed that the matters referred
to by Colonel Dickson could be discussed in the Coln-
tuittee, and confined his reply to a few salient points.
Mr. Osborne complained of the money expended at
Aldershot. which had been wasted, he said, upon •
gigantic job—an indiffe-ent preparatory school for
tenting indifferent generals, which was at once useless
and demoralizing.
Colonel North, General Lindsay, and Colonel
Ciilpin bore testimony (with certain qualifications) to
the utility of the camp at Aldershot. 1
Mr. Monsen, comparing our War Estimates with
time of France, considered that we were incurring a
wild expenditure that would, if persevered in, cause a
reaction in the country, and the amount would be forced
down below what it ought to be.
General Peel pointed out sonic misapprehensions on
the part of Colonel Dickson, and expressed an opinion
that the Government had not taken money enough for
the number of men they proposed.
Lord Palmerston observed that the course taken of
discussing all the details of the different beads of the
estimates when the Under Secretary for War, having
spoken once, could not reply, was most inconvenient
With reference to Aldershot, and to the remarks of Mr.
Osborne— who lie said, had always an ample vocabulary
of strong words at command—he contended that there
never was • wiser application of the public money. The
object was to provide a place to learn combined move-
ment and lie appealed to every militsry man whether
the s..lielue had not been successful. The land might be
sold nt any time for more than its originnl purchase
money.
kfter some observations by Captain JCIA iS, the
amendment was negatived.
Mr. Osbonie thought the answer on the subject of the
fortifications moat unsatisfactory.
Lord Palmerston nisintained that it was sufficient.

After soiue further discussion, the House went into •
Committee of Supply upon the Army Estimates, when
various votes were agreed to sfter much debate.
The Queen's Prison, As., Bill, and other Bills, passed
through Committee.
The Volunteers (Tolls Exemption) Bill was with-
drawn. . .

The Charitable Uses Bill was read a third time and
passed.
On the motion of the Chancellor of the Exchequer,
the Select Committee on Public Accounts was nomi-
nated.

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The House IMljonni ed at 20 minutes to 1 o'clock.

FRI DAY.

On the motion for adjournment till Monday,
Mr. Layard asked the Secretary of State for India
whether, notwithstanding the inmate of the Lieutenant-
tiovernor of Ehngal upon the report of the Indigo Com-
mission, a Bill had been introduced into the Legislative
Council of India to enforce contracts for the delivery of
agricultural produce; and, if so, whether such measure
had been introduced with the sanction of the Govern-
ment of India. . .

Sir J. Elphinstone read statements of the grounds
upon which the Government of India justified the mea-
sure complained of, and be motested against the im-
putations cast by Mr. Layard upon the indigo planters.
Mr. H. D. Seymour explained the peculiar nature of
the indigo cultivation, which he considered to be a case
for special legislation.
Sir C. Wood observed that, up to even a recent
date, there had been abuses in the indigo cultivation.
Although lie admitted that the case was exceptional, lie
thought there was no reason why it should be subject
to different legislation.
General Peel asked the First Lord of the Treasury if
it was true that at the recent electon for Tiverton he
was escorted to the hustings by the iTiverton Volunteer
, Rides ; and if it was the intention of Government to
' sanction the attendance of Volunteers at electior.s? He
thought the proceeding improper, lie said, and expressed
a hope that steps would be taken to prevent a practice
the inconveniences of which he pointed out.
Lord Palmerston, said, good-humouredly, he quite ad-
mitted, as a general principle, that it was improper that
armed bodies should participate in elections. He had
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found, in cooling froiL his hotel to the Court-house, that
the gallant Tiverton Volunteers wished to accompany
him thither, and, 111 there was no contest, he thought it
would be • port of political prudery if he objected to
walk a ith them.

Mr. Hope asked the Under-Secretary of State for
the Colonies whether it was intended to endeavour to
institute a tribunal in New Zealand to decide upon
conflicting claims of natives in eases of proposed sales of
laud by them to the Government.
Mr. C. Fortescue entered in some detail into the
'abject of native titles to land in New Zealand. A
measure, he said, was under the consideration of the
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home Government to enable the Governor of the
colony, with the advice and assent of competent persons
in New Zealand, who possessed the confidence of the
cove population, to devise means of deciding questions
relating to native rights and disputes a* to the owner-
ship of land&
Lord R. 1.1 made a few remarks upon the state of
the colony.
Sir it. Peel, who bad, at an early period of the
evening, inquired of Lord J. Burwell the nature of the
communications between Sir A. Buchanan end the
Spatii4l Government with reference to the persecutions
in Spain, reverted to the subject, and denying that the
imprisonment of the individuals had been caused by
political reasons, or any other reason than their faith,
urged Lord John to represent to the Spanish Govern-
ment that this persecution was incompatible with the
reclined Europe.
The motion for adjournment wu agreed to.
Mr. Slaney moved for leave to bring in a Bill to facili-
tate the grant of sale of small portions of entailed lands
near great towns as sites for dwellinp for the working
classors, and for other purposes of • like beneficial or
charitable nature. His object wu to remedy • great
practical difficulty in getting situ.
Leave was given.
Mr. Cowper likewise obtained leave to bring in a Bill
to enable the Commissioners of Her Majesty's Works to
acquire a site for the erection of courts of justice, and
of various offices belonging to the same.
Leave was given to Mr. Kinnaird to bring in • Bill to
provide additional means for the establishment of re-
formatory schools in Scotland.
The Select Committee on the Public Offices Extension
Bill was nominated, after • short debate.
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Mr. Bristow obtained leave to bring in a Bill to exempt
the Volunteer forces of Great Britain from the payment
of tolls. _

Certain Bills were then forwarded a stage, and the
House adjourned at ten minutes past 12 o'clock, until
Monday.