The Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1860-03-17 00:00:00

THE REPOAM BILL.

The Parliamentary Refo.rni Committee v(Mob assem-
bles at jlendall's Westniiiistg hal* .o,as;ed
resolution urging the erpedienoy of 'extending the
borough franchise to those who occupy apartments
furnished or unfurnished, at a rent amounting to £lO
, a-year ; and also to those whether in countries or
boroughs who pay. 40s. a-year direct taxes. The
committee show that in four metropolitan constituencies,
comprising seventy-four thousand eight hundred elect
tors, a recluctio4 of tile fpilP4i§e to G will ally Prea4
an addition of 1,,22 votes,

The Post announces thartre 'Emperor has nominated
the great free-trader, M. Michael Chevalier, a. senator.
The cabin passengers' of the Commodore Perry have
signed a complimentary address, attributing the pro-
tracted passage to calms and contrary *Os.
The committee of rint stock banks yesterday deter-
mined to recommend tq thy priyate establishments that
the general hour for closing on Saturdays would be
fixed at three o'clock, instead of four o'clock, as at
present. No doubt is entertained that three o'clock will
be the hour adopted.
The. Times, while even thanking the Wile 100 Whg,
last night, expressed all that can be said and thought
against the commercial treaty, says that a government
has someining more tq do than to talk: it has to decidg
and act. Now, while in speculation and talk there are
many thins that may be One, and many ways of doing
them, truly qnp things aptqally
.done, and it i only
done in one way; and very odd indeed it must be if
both the' act aild the manner of the act be not open to
criticism. The Timts proceeds to defend the general
course adopted by the Government.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS.--YEsTERDAy

In reply to the Marquis of Clanricarde,

The. Duke of NF.WCASTLB, while admitting the policy
of teaching the Irish constabulary the use of weapons,
said, that it,was not intended to send them to the Camp
at the Curragh.
The Earl of ELLENE6notraii asked whether there
were any special instructions sent to our ships
at Naples to receive the King, in case he was driven to
demand protection.
The Duke of SOMERSET said that no special instruc-
tions had been sent out, , but political refugees would be
received, of course, not being allowed to communicate
with the ship.
Lord REDESDALE protested against the reception on
British ships of persons flying from a charge of high

treason.
The Earl of MAIMESEURY observed that the British
officers:would be placed in a very, dangerous posftion if
they were requested to shelter political refugees.
The Duke of SOMERSET said that nothing Would be
done except to follow the precedent of former years, and
receive such persons with the view of .removing them to
a place of...safety.
The Earl of DERBY observed that the duty of receiving
political refugees belonged to peribds of revolution which
,could not be said of the present position of Naples. •
Earl GREY thought the Government had done well to,
send out no special instructions, and hoped that nothing
would be done to aggravate the difficulty_ of_the position
of the frontiers.
The Earl of CARNARVON called attention to the
telegram announcing that Savoy was to be annexed tp
.France after a vote of the municipalities. This was a
direct contradiction to the assurance 'Of Count Cavour
in his former despatches, which declared distinctly that
the annexation would not be proceeded with except
after consulting the people of Savoy and the Great.
Powers, and after paying due regard to the interests of
Switzerland. It now appeared that the Swiss envoy
had sent to M; Thonveuel'a protest against the annexe-
gun. If a wished, to know if the (froyerriment would
afford furtherinformatiqn, and would lay the correspon-
dence on the table,

The. Ditke of NEwOAsTr.,B said that there was no
doubt a great and flagrant discrepancy between the
state-tient Of Obtint Cavour and the telegraminidedls:,
Of the latter he, bad no knowledge, and repudiated all
responsibility regarding it. A dispatch had been
'received from M. Thouvenel within the last six hours.
It was a ,very important one, and there had not been
time, for the Oevernment to consider it. There had been
no disposition to Withhold information, indeed, more had
lieu) stated than was consistent with diplomatic pru-
dence, .He appealed, to the House to exercise discretion
on this important subject.
After a few words frotii the Earl of Malmesbury, the
subject dropped. •
AO S. 13AIN8 announced that her Majesty had
apippirited the, Moyow (this 437), to receive, the addresses
et the two 4onses on the stilled of the commercial
treaty; •
Some hills were forwarded a stage, and the House
adjourned at seven o'clook.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.-YESTERDAY.

The Speaker took the chair at four o'clock.
Mr. BRIGHT read a letter from Mr. Cobden, com-
plaining of the statement made by Mr. iiewdegate in
that house, to the effect that he Cobden) had been
updaly in4nenqed hy% the Emperor of the French, which
statement he altogether denied,
Mr. NEwuci-4141 made a further statement in ex-
planation of his allusions to Mr. Cobden.
In reply to various questions,
Sir C. WOOD said that he shad offered to the British
Museum.such specimens from the East India Museum
as might be found conducive to the completion of the
former, which would be before long the most pierfEtot in
the world. The telegraphic cornman#atioA was not yet
completed from this country to, India, bust a telegraphic
coAmunicaliou'had heel-, that clay receiyed in the city
from TAilentta, dated lath March, steps were being
taken to improve the Communication with. Central Asia,
and with the north-western provinces of China.

Mr, LANIGAN called the attention of her Majesty's,
Ministers to the treatment of the destitute Irish by
poor-law officers
,in'England, with a view of checking
the abuses which; exist, and of aasinkilsliAg the English
poor-law tp, tlAlt o Ireland, wldolA boa* of
kurlialls are compelled to grant relief to all who seek
it, irrespective of the country to which they belong,
there being no evidence required to establish their
claims except the fact of their destitute condition. He
declared the English and Scotch poor New. far. Letter-
treated in Ireland than the, hash pOor in England, and
gave au iiistance of the harsh treatment of the latter by
English poor-law officials.
Colonel DUNNE hoped that the law of settlement would
be taken into consideration, with a view to ttEl 4rnetkol,
n 1 1l - -

Mr. Var,rEas said that the question of settlement
was one which had perplexed statesmen fOr centuries,
and could not then be gone into. As to the case quoted
by Mr. Lanigan, he had seen the account in q Tipperary
newspaper, and 414 9ale enquiries in consequence,
Ike found that the facts were greatly misrepresented,
and that the conduct of the officials had been perfectly
legal ; at the same time, he admitted that the law, as it
stood, was extremely harsh, but attempts to amend it
were frustrated mainly by the Irish niembers themsefve.
3fr. ft. IluallEirrsaid that not only harsh, but illegal.
acts were Committed by English authorities, in their
desire to get rid of Irish paupers. He held that the
case might be met by giving paupers a claim op Ole
unions, and not on the parkshn,

M. 3,145-kina said that fbrmer hiAs had failed because
they fell altogether, short of the purpose. There was a
great question, which ought at once to 1)0 adectnately
met. The provisions at present 113 r the renrvA sot Ifrish
panpers Vire, inhkpnan.
RALinunToN asked the Secretary of State for
Foreign Affairs if his, attention had been Balled to the
fact of the French Government having erected fortifica.
tions'_on the island of St. Pierre.

Lord J. RUSSELL said that the fortifications had beer;
erected' but the opilliQP.9,f afhoer been
149, tttil aippe*eci 1,11a,t Blothing had been done con-
trary to the treatY.

Mr. KTxdLAI T asked if there was any objectiton to
lay upon the table the answer. to, Lord W6anifield's
despatch of the 3rd March, relative to the annexation
of slyoy Aild Nice to France ? He trusted that the
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rumour current during the last few days, and that it was -
not the fact that
,the Emperor of the French was pro-
ceeding to annex Siivox without consulting the Great
11,orfers,
Sir R. PEEL, in warm terms, denounced the policy of
the Emperor. The annexation was fraught with danger
to the neutrality and independence of Switzerland. He
had just received a telegraphic message, stating that •
ChithltOs 4114 Tt#ll6glq. were divided into districts, and
so .thoroughly-.worked by French agents that - the
Municipality were ready to vote for the annexation;
to France. After referring to the dignified positimi
taken by Prussia, he said all the other European
Powers ouniit to resist, this beginning of a series,
of aggressia4; which would soon be followed by claims
on Belgium and Rhenish provinces. He expressed );,,is
opinion that 'Count Cavour himself had not willingly,
sacrificed Savoy. He contended that the King of Sar-
dinricoulci: not cede this territory, without the,consent of
the Great P,owers who were, patty to the treaty of i 815:
The people of England did not desireE,aa
Europe
onsettled iy a policy the danger 4. which could not be
eitaggerated, Therefore, in advooating the cause of
Savoy they were upholding the rights of nations and the
peaci of the world. He trusted the Government would
unanimously make an energetic protest against this first
step of France, in the policy of territorial aggrcu.‘4443.
l'!?'4 all 1:. lives and
ment,' and by so doing probably reserve
millions of monw ,
ford J. PussELL said that the papers asked lhrire
the sab stall ee of a cooyersatioo hetwee4 Lord Bloom-
field and the Foreign Minister of Prussia. With
4,43garcl to the annexation, he had had conversations
wits Count Bersdorff on the subject, who quite agreed
wilt the views he bad himself upheld. Both at Berlin
and at Vienna the British Ministers had expTeme4 these
objections to the annexation 1)4 ha )444i not heard any
satiEfactory rtly, Vienna. There were reasons to
present AUsina front moving in the present state of her
relatioos with Sardinia. He had no reason to believe
that any strong opposition would be received from
these governments. Count Cvouir, after, having said
that Sardinia •weuld neither sell nor exchange Savoy,
nOtii ‘ail that tr, °PAY; not VP93e VW Wishes of
to pßople. T.* he thought, was a very unneops.,
s,ar• declaration, as there had been no discontent shown
by Savoy against its present government. At the same
tint, if the Great Powers offered no objection, and
thepeople of Savoy were willing, it would Ire difficult
for, the British Government to interfere. A despatch
front Thpuvenei to Count Persigny had just been
qcmutmloated to him. It was a shert one, and stated
Oil the, altered position of Italy demanded the annexa-
dm of Savoy, He must say that he could, not con-
this a consultation of the Great I,owers ; but
the whole despatch was of so much gravity and
•Tii)ortan,Ce, especially in those parts which related to
Faicigny and ChaVais, that it required the deepest
eorsidevation. An answer had been drawn up, and if
e Majesty approved that answer it would be laid
hebre the. House.
the motion for adjournment till Monday was then
aped tql
o,n tile motion for going into' Committee of Supply,
Sir )J LACY ForANS moved a resolution condemning
tie attempt to force a passage to Pekin by arms; stating
that though a military demonstration was now necessary,
tutattack upon Pekin or conquest of territory would be
impolitic, and contrary to inOttlatiensal law; and hoping
wih Her Majesty, in the royal spas* that 'the acquies,
Iceice• of the Chinese government to our moderate
donand would prevent the further effusion of blood.

Lord J. RUSSELL entered into 4 variety of explana-
tions, stafilig .the-instruction given to Mr. Bruce, who
was ordered to preceed to Pekin, there, to,demand :the
ratification of the treaty, 'and if that was refused to
order an indemnity. As for his residence, it would be
partly at Pekin and partly at Shanghai. As for the
military demonstration, it was true that fOrtit thousand
men Were to, lie sent out, but 'it -was impossible after
what had passed that Mr. Bruce could proceed to Pekin
without an escort- ,
After some further discussion,
Mr... BRIGHT 4eAtirod that Ifr.::Brnce showed an
utter want of judgment, and was unfit for his position.
That the treaty bargained for things not necessary, and
contended that our conduct in China was contrary, to
the law of nations, and that we had no business with
a resident minister at Pekin.
Mr. S. HERBERT admitted that our proceedings in
China bad all along been in a wrong groove; but the treaty
was now six, fait accompli, and we were bound to see
that it was enforced. -Whatever they might think of
our policy forthe last twenty years,, we should be most
unwise if we:now abstained from all demonstration. He
trusted that Lord Elgin would be able to put matters on a
proper footing. He had great confidence in the wisdom of
that 'nobleman, and had hopes that he would by this,
demonstration—for he could not do anything without
oneconvert our present unsatisfactory position with
regard to China into one of permanent peace.
Sir J. PARINGTON complained that the Govern Merit
had not acted up to their engagements of making a full
statepent of their future policy in China. He entered
at length into the subject, contending that we were not

, justified inour attack or the Beiho,' arid, -therefore not
justified in oro, present conduct. The GOvernment was
right in demanding the ratification Of the treaty, but if
an apology for the Peiho affair was refused, they had
no right to resort arms to enforce it.

Mr. Hops denounced the policy of undetl44r a
war with China on such grounds crq t4t,t9e. of, Ow present
quarrel,

Mr. C. ReocE defended Lord Elgin, from the impute:
tion cast on him as to the' affairs in the Peiho, •
Lord PAI,3tEasToN, after.: sketching the instructions
given to Mr. B,ruee, said the barricades
,on the river
were ostensibly erected against, pirates. There was no
official there to tell him that he must nqt go on. He
simply commenced removing the barricades, when the
Chinese commenced the attack. The Russians had the
right of the-passage of the Peiho ; and as by treaty.we
'were Tulle footing of the_ most favoured._natioll„
had the right of the pass. tire too. Alt:, 13,411C.e therefore
was perfectly justified the course he adopted, which
was in eceorclunce wits his instructions. What would

have been said if he had returned without attempting any-
thing? If he had been in Mr. Brnee's pinee,,,be would

have done just the same. ' Our future policy lol.,\hi be
simply to enforce the trel+itji, poxisipps oc which
were necessaix 4our good uuderstanding With China,
but not to, engage, in ripedleas f i
ox t 4 a9uire

further territory... • • • ••,
Mr. WnrrustAt reprobated the policy of ,threatening
the Ohineae, and the hogtile tone adopted by our

authorities in China. He denied that ambassadors

had the right to go to war on their own account. The

tone of Lord Palmerston would encourage future pro-

ceedings in the same objectionable line of conduct, lie

further. reprobated the policy of forciggone. Nxay. to

Pekin at whatever hazard% 40 at ,~natexer, cost of 4e.

After a few lycaxis frßia Mr, 8 Coaltraae anti Sir. H.
Verney, thp,pplu,tioA4 were v464rAwk, AO the House

went into committee of• stipply,
A vote of L 840,000 was taken towards the expense of
tha Chinese expedition.

The Marriage (England and Ireland) Bill, was read
a third time and passed.
Some bills were advanced a stage, and
The House adjourned at quarter past one,