The Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1860-05-09 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

ROUSE OF LORDS.-YESTERDAY.
Lord 14414.41iN0N gave notice,that on an early day he shoul3
call attention to the disturbances in St. George's-in-the-East.
'The Bankrupt Law (Scotland) Amendment Bill was read a
Second time.
The Pawnbrokers' Act Amendment Bill was read a second
time.

• Lord EDuRY mavedt"reolution to the effect that, whereas
1 t was expedient that'll!' the forms and rites of divine worship
Changes should be 'Made from time to time as should seem
necessary or expedient, and whereas the 'Rook of canons is
lit to be reviewed and made more Suitable to the state of the
Burch and whereas it Wits desirabld to remove all birriers
to an
the people lin :public worship ; an address be
presented to..lier Ma; esty for the appointment of a commission
M Prepare
alterations and ,amendments in the Gallons as
may seem desirable, and to consider other Matters which,. in
!heir' judgment, -may most conduce to these ends. The
prayer-book had already been partially revised last year by the
omission of certain services, and there was no reason why a
more complete revision should not take place. It would
destroy the spirit of party and reconcile differeneps throughout
~.,
varin
014flicms in the church. , Individual clergymen had
already introduced innovations,which had caused great scandal
and dissensions. The points he proposed to bring under the
discussion of the commission would be the revision of the
tabries, the shcirtening of the morning service, the removal of
the da •
ba mnatory clauses of the Athanasian creed, the revision of
Ptimtal, marriage,, and ordination services, and the sub-
seption to the articles.
The
Archbishop of !CAXTERMIRT said that agreement as to
the actual alterations would by found impossible„ and the
mdY result of the , motion would be the creation of unseemly
gnites;
Lord T
—YTKLETON would not IMVe OppOsed the motion if it
had been proposed to refer the report of the commission to the
‘wo houses of Convocation.
The
is Bishop of LONDON denied' the existence of any real and
sio acti pq•ea. •
grievances whiCh would be removed by the commis-
n.

Earl STANHOPE opposed the motion.
its
Earl Gnsaorna.a, after the opinions expressed, recommended
Withdrawal.-
Made The tßishop ofo
OXFORD believed that if any attempt, was
change the formulas of the Church, a further attempt
Would follow. to alter its doctrines. They should not enter
Aft
With rash steps on such sacred ground. '
er w a fe.._
observations from the Bishop of Carlisle, LTord EBERT withdrew his motion. .
Their lordships adjourned at 9 15 p.m.

I:I°USE OF COMMONS .—YESTERDAY,
_ESTERDAY.
Vhlt"d ALFRED CHWRCHILb. asked the Under-Secretary of
e for the Colonies
'whether any authentic intelligence has
be received
received with respect to the disturbances reported to
have occurred between certain native tribes in the province of
in. New Zealand, through a disputed land claim
connected with the movement in favour of a native king.
tia3r. C. FOKTESCIIE said that it was not true that any dis-
anee had occurred in New Zealand, which could fairly be
armed collision.. A dispute had arisen respectingsettl
the an
It ernent of land, but he had every reason to believe that
I*43nld be settled4without any appeal to arms.
.te
*rti BoactuLtv asked the. Secretary of State for Foreign:
Ita{airs whether, in consequence of the remonstrance of.ller,
a'Ars Government, any promise or szcurity has been;
sen by the Russian Government that the graves of the officers
d D,
en of the Ltritish army, who are interred in the Crimea,
-"al be Proteeted and held sacred in future.
Lord J. RUSSELL said that the Russian Government had been
?Pealed to on the subject, and had given assurances that 'they
an
protect.
every deAire te the graves of the British,ofiliers
and men.
11114 cry
11114:nu-AA! moved for leave to introduce a bill for' the
' Ireland reglatration of births, deaths, and marriages in
31r•L
blit • rontxt was glad that the subject had been taken up,
ati
objected to the machinery of the constabulary
sfor col-
, nff registration. He should himself shortly introduce a:
Z,i tielZividing for the employment of civil officers in such:
Dave Was then given to brine in the bill. '
ItrkeureneFal Uerou moved for a select committee to enquire into,
; truth of the allegations contained in the petition of ,the'
A? And Maybole Junction Railway Company, presented in,
4
Air
last, and printed in the eleventh report of the select
Qunanittee
,on Public petitions appendix 202, relative to the
11 I:Pbolie"unn of ,the grant for , Portpatrick and Donaghadee
mots
1,
loot; —"No, on the part of the Government, opposed the
tiv7B;ol. which, after some discussion, was' negatived without
r
moved for copies of the examination papers,'
of t.:7 answers thereto by the candidates, for the appointment
IQs rf...."'"47 boys before the Civil Service Commissioners at
vase With, in January 1860. He mentioned a particular
.uese...O.which the Commissieners had acted with much unfair-
thellLe C ILk.NCELLOR of the EXCUEQUER said that the duties of
troiwunressioners were judicial, and not 'subject to the con-
_sof the House. He therefore opposed the motion. '
~_•""n1 Ronewr Creri said that the matter was of high impor-
'l44. h
-
nf
u,pe. tvOlved the question whether the whole patronage
-e Clt
inrown should be vested in the irresponsible hands of
Commissioners.
CBlr G,C. Lsmrs said that the Commissioners had no such
atle,...,age • The Crown nominated the candidates, and ,the
wrantsioners selected them-
..sl)kfter some debate, the motion was negatived by 80 to 50.
lAtr? CAtorerr moved for leave to introduce a bill for regur
and
ulg the use of locomotives on turnpike and other roads,
z7tellr! tolls to be' levied on such locomotives, and on the
and carriages drawn or propelled by the same..
some remarks-frOm Mr. D. Griffith, leave was given.
rColonel SYKES, in moving for papers, protested against the
ilPosition on the people of India ,of a system of taxation
glilY distasteful to them, and which they would not under-
stand' This policy would create a discontented people and
-`ntralise all Plans for the reduction of the native army.
Mr. VANSITTAIT supported the motion. • 14
*• luellax.4ll objected to various details of the Indian
budget.
firC. WOOD observed that it was not easy to frame a tax
Il
would please everybody.
,The taxes proposed by Mr.
L1,470r had been adopted after consultations with the highest
uhorities and careful deliberation. The House, last
•the ihad very Properly refused the Imperial guarantee
wouldniathotanintLerforre.With
tnnhodseer
wthhooswe
er:i7ruerpotnasniebeles
for the finances of India. • He should, at .the proper
time be prepared to defend the financial measures of the
Indian Government.

The motion was withdrawn.
:lax. Boyar, moved the second reading of the Stock-jobbing
BM. His object was to legalise bbnci fide transactions on the
Stock Exchange, while the bill of the Government adopted the
objectionable principle of legalising the gambling transactions
.--the most precarious add dangerous system of gaming in
existence. He asked the House to encourage real business
proeeedings rather than a demoralising spirit of speculation.
Mr. COLLIER moved as au amendment. that the bill be read
a second time that day six inontlie, demanding that the
bill of ' Sir J. Barnard, now long obsolete, , and which'
bad never been enforced, should be fully and entirely repealed.
411 Purely gambling transactions would still remain illegal.
Sir J. Barnard's aet,sysn as it stood, did not apply to transac-
tions in railways and foreign funds. It was as incomplete as
it Was useless.
motion was negatived without a diVision.
On the motion for, the third reading of the Paper Duty
Repeal Bill,
*ix S. NoarneoTE moved an amendment, "That in the
1:414 . state of the public revenue it was not desirable to
t,
1. with the repeal,of the.excise duty on paper.
Proceed ' 'this (the most important of
„,
It ' *." stS's tc' • . h'd
the Was impolitic .. ' si,d Csoa-Salunent) till they a
fu,_
routincial proposals oi -- •of axe mg... The reso-
oceeded further with the estimates . *4•4% 11g.e.nse to any'
enbs_uioapassed two years ago did not pledge L.- - •wtseg t. lie. 1
X-4-'44. te repeal of the duty, and though justifiable .
euT_entliture of the country was but 63 millions, counldtenreodt be
t
le 'enabled when it reached seventy millions.
tonetb into the financial scheme of the Governmilenete,toabxjaetctutend
h.the surrender of so large an amount of indirect
d the
-erved
.that further estimates had already increased
even
those sec. Of the year, as calculated in the budget
Wer e estimates, though he did not question their accuracy,
Iv! yet to be explained: ' .
postponement
r„ • MILNER. GIBSON protested against the
was
Zeal session to session. of a measure to' which the house
tilbogntPeldedtgoe
intellect of
the
liTtehreatuqruee;stttioen
ewdnaseantfontn,a
a,ud the
' country financial one; it
Mr, -*
BALLS objected to the bill;
alisertaitt reve b
nue, which could not be repaired except
put
.
as throwing away a large and
in rlitional income tax, taking money from the public top f
"4 Pockets of the foreigner, and imperiling the interests Of
4 rgreat domestic trade.
4 • Pir into la.ca said that the
he ve°addenee or distrast of the Government. On that ground
financial question resolved itself
ems
ti ready to support the bill. He denied that no dangheer
A., '0 be aPprehended from foreign interference with t
'an:nestle trade • • .
air hi. a •
more _ ealloionsit asserted: that other taxes had a 'muchrtiun
ago,,4rftent claim to repeal, and quoted their' old assertion
sell the Chancellor of the'Exchequer and Lord John Rus-
sell io
iikok favour of reducing the tea and sugar duties and the
lotion of ."-"* He maintained that since the passing of the reso-
of tune te! 1848 there had been a material change in the feelings
turd oulintry,
Illokent VANE thought that it would be imprudent at such a
kr. ii., to Part With so large a revenue. ,
Ivaa ti:l•lrex also dreaded the jeopardy into which the country
'Which °`rn y the budget of the Chancellor of the Exchequer,
fain
_rtiateriall
411, , under the circumstances, was unprecedented, and cer-
Yto embarrass 'their proceedings next year. He
it mitted the odious nature of the tax, and he would support
x.:vreePeal the first moment he could do so, Without robbing the
eg
all ; but when called upon to replace it by new taxes
tout ~ 7 °dinus, and likely seriously to cripple commerce, he
mr".°l7d to
.wlit for a more favourable opportunity.
thou °Pk: likewise on financial grounds opposed the motion,
I,h g" be had voted for the second reading.
rem: eu-sisema,oa of the Rxennovna said that all these
to fie of,
loed l'is might be good, b
already passed ; it was no longer a
L4B question of the tea and sugar duties, the new taxes.
of 7,, ed by the budget had already received the approval
had 'Lc Rouse, • and an equivalent for the 'Paper duty
4,,estbkeen thereby provided. He alluded to the general
n' rePeitin that
t su h difdeulties surrouded the
collection . g a, e ,
n.— of the duty t its retention would have involvedl
oi and more" retentive measures, and that by the remove
s duty fresh trade would spring up in fibrous matter,
Which
try. 'would greatly advance the prosperity of the coun-
The uncertainties of our expenditure had been
fitted.,le_. from the first, aud were as well known to the House
n they sanctioned the proposals of. the Government as they
were at on_ _ present. Denying the assertions of Sir S. Northcote that
i/ material change had taken place which would justify their
,"eractning their steps with regard to this measure, he entreated
'4l ao seriously affecting
tu,s, se to pause before it rejected, at its third yeading, a
the revenue and the trade of the
"uutrY, land to Which it had already solemnly assented. The
repeal of the tax would be taken for granted as an accomplished
:ernt
et:d as already the law of the land, by every person con-
to,
erlevfautsheeituntinownawt
ioluialndnbveecnionentraaer! tEovaell4redeeeadenenpt.,
sod svourdtlin•
arrangement
tion of trading
given was universally re d had been made, the vote already
its revival would give the
fiscal d as decisive and definitive, and
most serious shock to public
t)noilnt of view they had already
3s ;derilsel
et aei,
gone too far, and they would
to the paper trade a paralyzed 'exbi the tax, give
nainngd obtain small
gain at the cost of vast vidual
shock to the faith of the nation in its nest
and a: grievous
' the direct breach of a legislative promise nature, as involving
the House of Commons. of the pledge of
- Mr. J. 8AR114,41 denied that the House was bound by the
Posal of any government, or that, in the present
instance Pro-
great trading preparations had been made whereby the interelt
•Of the trade would be seriously injured. There was ground
for hesitation when they :coked at the uncertainties of future
'expense of the present year, and of the taxation of the year. to
'con*.
Mr. Disitania said that the real issue was whether, wader
the existing uncertainties of their position, they ought not
t3b teeomider the repeal of the tax. This issue, he contended
'Ttad not been answered by thg Chancellor of the Exchequer.
Z,,_
_was not true.that all the new taxes proposed by, the budget
rselet. been adopted by the House. Some had disappeared alto-
sier from the paper, andthese, together with the admitted
i:Leesa
3.11, a of expenditure over the original estimate, would make
Iteett 'lir° nearly equal 'to the entire amount of the tax.
'ling to the gaparsi plastic%) 4e argwi that the first and