The Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1860-07-05 00:00:00

without the consent Of the- Lords of the Tre aeirry- , and
that they. May direct the investment of Well proceeds as
condition of such consent. In every such 'ease the
.income'd diridends-*ould be payable to the borodgli
fund in aid of
.the annual iheonie.. ,The griiods iriter4
of this legislation pis to pieserh intact the corprisof the
estate and the capital of the Corporation.
"Fines on lease's are. tw.o __classe4, viz., those
11, ,• • •
received 'ripon the
.granting Uf leasts of property m
the
liottessidi for th, 111 tern of M yeats, and Aries on
renewal of existing leases for a further term; creating,
'in fact, on the surrender of the 'existing lease, a new
lease for the full period.
".The proper -application of theii fines some time ago"
received the careful consideration of the committee, and
they were advised by the most eminent- Counsel 'that
the amount derived-:root both di these tOurces ;Is 06::
Orly 'applicable, Mid might:to be applied.; as income
accruing at-the-line of its beinr, reeeiVed. Tkat no part
of such atiotint -should, or indee'd,can, he .aiiprOpt:iated
as ik teserve o dinkin ffirid._ That the
kvh6le aniodiil Atitletito to to ferits And profits within the
Meaning of the 92nd sectionOf the Municipal Act, and
should be received by the treasurer, and carried by him
to the borough fUnd and applied accordingly.'.. From this
itfollows that no specific fine or fines in respect of any
particular property can. be specially applied to any par-
ticular' purpose; but that all fines-received in any year
must be carried to the credit of the bororigh fund of that
year, together with the income of the Corporation from
all ether sources, and be applicable .to the: payment- of
the obligatory apetidittlre of that year..
" The amount received as tints; In any" ode year; is
subject to some years in which
sales of property -(-Whieh has fallen 603 possession)
occur, the amount- it tery-.large;' !did, in other years,
When this doet • iirit happen, and the fines received are
only these-upon the ordinary renewals of leases, con.,
!lidded: by the Council' a -each monthly meeting, .thi-3
amount is .comparatively, small. Tfiese7 onisideiations;
and others connected *itli the iectitite intottie, and
nipenditrire of the torpnration, influenced your com-
mittee in reporting to:the Council on the 4th April
last ' That in the present financial position of the
COrporatiori no sufficient funds can be provided out of
the corporate estate for the purpose Of carrying out im-
provements on an extended scale, and. it appears- to this
committee that fends for that purpose can only be pro-
vided by levying rates_ under the authority of .the act of
Parliament, which would be necessary to enable the
completion of such comprehensive improvements as thi
Councilmay atitherise;-• and nocireurastaltes hare since
arisenalter
t:et:toEtli t
theira opinion in thig taped. It Me Council-
rarlianit4ia.....fti Viers to Sorrow money
uniir6yetnents or any other purpose, they must
show.a. sufficient security for the money propoied to be
borthwed, and if that security were the 'corporate estate
and borough fund, the latter.wotild be chargeable. with
• tire! ‘ interest of the:borrowed monex, and
.the. sinking
fund for its redemptlOn ; and if in any year that fund
was insufficient for.
.ibis purpose, and also to meet the
ordinary obligatory :paymenta; chargeable upon it, :a:
borough-Tate -must be laid to supply the deficienpy. In
'that cast the Council would be. at once deprived of all
discretion in respect to expenditure as to minor imp Fore-
- and other payment's Out. of surplus ineama, and
be limited to a-strict—administration of a trust estate for
tha defined objects specified in the acts. If, however,
the Conicil should decide upon
.applying. for powers to
effectiinprOiernents and to borrow money- on.the credit
of an improvement rate, it would be coinpeferit'fOr the
Council to; votcl• 'in any •yenr. a • sum out of ascertained
surplus to be appropriated-towards effecting such improve..
ments as may be
.authorised,..or . in 'aid' of the impsOVe
inent,rate

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Mr. Alderman meiing -the confirmation.
et the proceedings, said the report recorded on the 'pro-
ceedings was of so much importance that it would*
impossible for the members to,devote proper considera-
tion to it that morning. It .appeared to him, to be one
of the -most'-important.subjects` which had- ever keeti
brought before this Council: Ile Sit'oUld therefOre pro-
pose that the report should 'be printed and cirenlrited,
and that the debate should be adjourned till the next
meeting.
Mr. Kitchen suggested that the report should be
circulated before the question of town improtreinents
-was considered. The suggestion having been adopted,
Mr Turner' said that on the general proceedings there
was nothing which required any particular observation,
except that relating to the erection of the. Wellington
testimonial mi the'site 'of the. Islington market.: (Cries
of "Tea.-.") " • , •

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A letter from the Mersey-Dockßoard,asking if that
body nii,?iht be pifinitted %o Continue to work the chain-
limit*. inAcliinexfor . another year was referred to the
in.airce Colimittee...'.f

. .
:The Vow'Sr-:-cteitlc ar,:corresporldence _relative to
the'feti and salary of the 'O4IF. of 'the Peace to.the
borOugh; ftfat- geatlerapiiiaintaining„ that. the fees
allowed-by Lord Vihn ilot-idfcrid more than;
a fair rDmiiii-e,70-iiiik;Kirilil.,ikork done ;`::while the
.Council maintained -that the ,-Clerk of the Peace wis
considerably crierpaict, and suggested that he should be
remunerated by a fixed salary. The last communication
received was from the Secretary of State for the Home
Department, asking if the Council would be willing to
allow to the Clerk of the Peace a salary of £l,OOO per
annum.

Alderman TUnNER then moved the confirmation of
the general proceedings. .
Alderman 030 PER seconded the motion.
PICTON said he could not refrain from making an
obsriation with reference to the Finance Committee
and the lilers6, pockS and Harbour Bill.
The 31;i:0n.-iiicrili6re was nothing on the proceed.-
ingi of tlig'Fiikalice CoMmittee this month with respect
to the bill:

gr; Prprox said that was the very thing he had to
complain of. On a former occasion instructions were
given to' the Finance Committee to take action on that
bill, then'befOre the fionse of Commons; and whA he_
had to complain of was that no action bad been taken
that they, being owners of a considerable estate at.
Birkenhead, the interests of which were seriously affected
by that bill did ItOt act in a way to protect it—and that
although their Own tenant stated that the loss on the
Birkenhead ferry would be several hundreds per annum,
and, that it. would . seriously .affect the getable value of
that property, the bill was allowed to pass the Commons
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hopeless. and go to the Lords:, as if opposition were lt
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was left telitivate indiViduals to put 'their own hinds in
their pockets, and stand forward at considerable trouble
and expense when the principle involved in matters of
toll was eonsiciered so extraordinary by their lordships
and so 'unfair- to the ferries,that it was unanimouslyagreed to' reject the- Claue as to the old landing stage,
where matters were left precisely ashefOre.

Mr. CHARLES _Tußicpa wished to correct a misappre-
hensiOn of Mr. Piction as to what the Lords -did. it
was never proposed by the bill to levy tolls uporrOOP
landed at the south stage. There was a clause pro-
hibiting such goods being landed there altogethei; and
all that. the Lords did was to strike out .the word
"goods" from that prohibition ; while, as it stands,
cattle, horses, and vehicles are_ prohibited. It was a
question whether by other 4ts goods also • were not
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already prohibited.
Mr. JEFFERY rose to speakupon the •'question, but the
Mayor stopped the discussion as irregular, the. matter
having already been disposed of at thelast meeting.
Mr. JEFFERY said the queStiou Tao: of. $0 niUch im-
portance that it would raise the,question how far the
members of the Mersey Briar& ht`id a.right-to sit there.
("Oh !" and uproar.), sheuld like tele.), a word
upon this matter, and therefor!) he.would move tho
journment of the .c .
11fr. seconds it?
,MT. PICTON did.

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The MAYOR, ruled that Mr, Jeffery was quite out of
order.

Air• PICTON—Can a member not move an.. adjourn-
ment

The MAYOR—Ho cannot, merely to raise a question
which has not been legally-entered upon the paper for the
day.

Dir. j""itY —Are we not under the, same rules as
the Rouse of c6mmons ?
The ToWx-cratax—No: , .
Mr. jEriEnv then said he :Wished to ask a question
r whicheco m had
ii
upon another point:---that Was whether, by referring the
correspondenceiee, hey
been read to the Finanee Cora-
tt tted,in anyway to giving the
Clerk of the Peace a salary of £l,OOO a year ? '
rnt
Alderman Tr ANEIt Was sure stlie -comniittee would
never commit the Connell to thy. -payment of anything
like £l,OOO a year. :He thought the Mayor, and' the
Town-clerk should go to.tondo!i• and have an interview
with the Secretary of State nron•the subject. . - • .
Mr. SHEIL said he mould like to know the salary,
which Mr. Wright agreed to accept in takilig this:Once
of Clerk of the peace in 18-1.4.. ' - • ..- : . .
The TOWN-CLERK said £5OO •, but two yPall after,. in
consequence of a representation of increase of business
necessitating the employment, of additional' clerks; he
was allowed an addition of £l7O. _ •

Mr. JEFrERY—TeII us what .the recorderireceived.
last year, and what the clerk of the peade.
The TOWN-CLERK said—The recorder 700 guineas;aild
the clerk of the peace, upon public prosecutions alone,
had received last year £1,294 18s.; a sum something
less than the preceding year, because during 1659, that
table which had been provisionally sanctioned by the
Secretary of State had been in operation for three years.
Mr. JEFFERY thought he had heard it stated, in one of
the letters read, that it had amounted to £1,900. Then
there were extra fees. Assuming them to amount to
£3OO, that would make the sum £2,200, as against 700
guineas paid the recorder.
The proceedings were then confirmed.

LIGHTING ARID WATCHING COMMITTEE.
The proceedings of this committee included a recom-
mendation to alter regulation No. 12 of the hackney
carriage bye-laws, by striking therefrom the restriction
against the drivers smoking whilst attending to their
carriages ; and also the bye-laws for regulating omnibuies
and the owners, drivers, and conductors thereof, laid on
the table at the last meeting of the Council. -
Mr. CLINT, in moving the confirmation of the pro-
ceedings, said that with regard to the first reuommenda-