The Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1860-10-05 00:00:00

WALLASEY COMMISSIONERS.

The monthly meeting of this board was held yester-
day evening, in the offices at Egremont. Mr. Pooley
presided; and the other members present were Messrs.
Maude, lierford, Boyd, Holmes, Marshall, Hosack,
Harrison, Hill, Hughes, Fishwi, and Caine. The
proceedings' of the -Works and Health Committees
were reaa and &cal:lined ;: at were also those of the
Gas and Water Committee'. Pre' ratter included a
report from the engineer, stating that the tower and
well were nearly completed.
Mr. HUGHES said he was far from being sutis NCI that
the well was nearly completed. He thought that Mi.
Rawlinson's attention ought to be called to the matter.
The CuAuct AN also considered this a most impor-
tant subject' it struck him that the progress which
had been made with the well was anything but
creditable to all concerned, and the consequences
'ere very serious, The ratepayers would be kept
out of the use of the well through the bad
management that was being carried on, He thought
that Mr. Rawlinson's attention should be drawn to it,
as there vas no obstacle which ordinary diligence
would not reinove:
A Member asked where the blame lay ? _

The CHAIRMAN said h'e had mentiorn;cl the engineer
and contractor r he bladed theni both for the delay.
It' the Contractor did not act up to his iristruCtionsi it
was the engineer's duty to stop him. He was *my
sorry to have suck a meagre report from the committee
oil this'subject.
Me proceedings were then confirmed, with the under-
standing that the law-clerk should write to Mr. Raw-
linson on the subject.
The proceedings of the Ferry &limit tee were next
considered. The committee, after inspecting the carious
models which hat' been sent in for improved boats and
lauding-stages for Egremont and New Brighton, had
come to the conclusion that Nos. 18 and 14 were the
best. With the author of plan No. 19, however, they
had not yet been able to communicate, to ascertain the
mode in which t'h'e plan could be carried into effect.
The board, after a slight dils'OnssNriii decided that an
adjourned meeting should be held oil' Wedpesday, the
17th instant, and that in the meantime "Alpirar the
author of the plan, be communicated with.
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Mr. PooLEY (chairman of the board) said it was a very
pleasing prospect to see this amalgamation of opposite
feelings which had pervaded, not only the board, but
the parish also; token they came to look things in the
face, the obstacles were merely like nightmares, which
soon disappeared: lie must congratulate the board
on such ai termination to what had been a very
long and tinpfodtictive diserission.
The following is the portion of the proceedings
of this special fer-9`t committee referring to the trans-
fer With a view to' gate' the fo'card to' take
possession at once of the ferries, Mr. Smith's
trustees would probably consent to their taking
possession under the lease, on condition that they
applied for and obtained Parliamentary powers within
two years to raise an additional sum of money to
purchase the ferry, at a sum to be agreed upon if
possible, but if not, to be settled by arbitration, such
additional sum to rank par' passu with the £75,000
already authorised to the board, the board not to be
obliged to pay the purchase money and take up their
title until within one month of the expiration of the
lease, but With liberty to' do so at any earlier period.
In case of defaiilt of p'aym'ent at the alJefe mentioned
period, Mr. Snrith'S trustees to have power to re-enter
and sell, arid tO Come on the &Yard for any deficiency
in price. if the hoard omit or fail to' obtain
such Parliamentary poiers, Mr. Smith's trustees to be
at liberty to determine the lease at any time after the
expiration of two years by giving siX Months' notice.
"Whereupon it was resolved by the committee, "That, in
their_ opinion, the terms suggested appear fair and
reasonable, and .that they be recommended to the board
as the basis of a negotiation for the purchase of the
Seacombe Ferry."
.The CnArnausr said it Was necessary to elect a par-
liamentary comnlittde for the.ensuing year.
Mr. CAINE then proposeta: list of naMes, which was
seconded by Mr. Hill, and appointed as the parliamentary
committee.
The following resolution was then proposed and
seconded, and carried unanimously :—" That the requi-
site notice be prepared and given for an application to
Parliament, in .the next session, for an act to empower
the hoard to raise such further sums of money as may
be required fo'i edmllletlng the purchase of the ferries,
preyiding steam and other boats for working the same,
and for *roving the taiidiiig Plaoes and approaches
thereto ; also for coniplethig the gas and water Works,
and eiteridiii4.the supply o'f gas and Water to all parts
of the township:"
Also the following motion negotiation having
been opened by the special committee with the trustees
of the late Mr.' Richard Smith, with regard to the
transfer of Seacombe Ferry, and. a fair prospect of an
amicable settlenient of the whole question on the prin-
ciple of the board becoming possessors in perpetuity of
the ferry and of certain rights and privileges connected
therewith upon fair terms, resolved that it be an in-
struction to the parliamentary committee to prepare
"OM, for next session, sO as to comprehend that
object."
THE SEACOMI3E MEMORIAL.
Mr. Mu said there afas a memorial front the inha-
bitants of Seacombe orl 6e su'bsict, of the transfer of
the ferries, but their wishes hafe already Veen met by
the present arrangements. •
Mr. CAINE—I should like to know whether this is
the memorial which emanated from the meeting which
this represents ? (holding up a long newspaper report on
the meeting at Seacombe.)
Mr, 11iLt—I don't know ; let me see. Yes, that
ifs it,
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CAtin—ltcE; sir, I take it for granted that it is.
I belieVe that there fs kg a iilail et this board who will
suppose that I WORld for one nioniedt laCifele in the
slightest degree with the ,free and full expression of
opinion liv the yieople of this cblifity on all Matters and
grievances that tlieY niay. feel either politically or
socially. We, as the represiliitatiieg of the people of
this parish are responsible to them for the Cate of the*
affairs, and I for one would most respectfully arid
earnestly invite them to examine our proceedings, and
put what strictures they pleased upon them. This is
the privilege of Englishmen ; but while we respect
this privilege, We should be careful to see that we are
not having things palmed upon us to serve the purpose
of Some designing man. I say that this document. is
nothing but a sham en the face of it. It was brought
forward at a nieetiug. Which w.as began by Mr. Hill,
Continued by Mr: Hill, and ended by Mr. Hill, The
reltildticins ,embodied id this memorial Were not oral
carried. Now, I dare say that Mr. Hill will tell us
that he did not suggest to these siX injtired ratepayers
who called upon him and invited Lint to deliver an
address, that they should take such proceedifigd: No
doubt he will say that he had nothing to do with the
appointment of a chairman. Still there was the fact
of the meeting being held, and now see what it is like.
Th' chairman tells the meeting that he is not "up" in
the thing—not "up" in the business of the meeting!
)''hat a it that he did not consult Mr. Hill,
I„di ani sure that gentleman could 'have put him
up 3to a t at: tip, Epanghter.) But, unfor-
tunately, as it happened, the elan:rad afa.l riot tip
to snuff. However, he reads the resolutions, and. I ant
told that, when the first resolution was put, he iVaS
appealing—for pity's sake, for the love of heaven—for
some one to move it. At last it was moved, and at last
seconded; it was then put, and not more than seven or
eight hands held up in its favour. So that, in fact, the
chairman doubted whether the motion was carried; but
Mr: Hill was at his elbow, and said, "My dear fellow,
it's earried--:-It's all rights" Well, there's -a second
resolution, and we ate told that the chairman again
appealed, but in vain, for thiS tiuie no due would
respond. And yet Mr. Hill has the unblushing effreiv.
tory to tell us that this memorial contains the opinion
of that meeting. I say it is an outrage and an insult
upon the common sense of this Board. Mr. Hill, I see
(for he was the only speaker present), thought himself
very unhandsomely treated by this Board, and said that
some one managed to get him removed from the Ferry
Committee, and that, as the oldest member of this
Bowfin, lie tholight himself very badly treated. He
appeals to their compassion as if he would say, "Pity
the sorrows of it poor old man''—the oldest member of
the Board. (Laughter.) I will not occupy year atten-
tion further than to move that this memorial, which I
would otherwise treat with the greatest respect, be
allowed to lie upon the table.
Mr. Alit, in replysaid. that seaeral members of the
township, and also the ratepayers of Seacombe. com-
plained of the course which the board had adopted, and
they mentioned this to him. He said to them—" You
must call a public meeting, and if vou want me to
speak I will come and do so, but I will not interfere at
all with the getting up of the meeting." Now, it
seems that these persons were not at all accustomed to
public meetings, and, in fact, did not know to manage
them.
Mr. CAINE—No, it seems they were not " up " to it.
(Laughter.)
Mr. HILL, continuing, said he had asked who was
going to be chairman, but the gentleman at first
intend al for that post had left town. In this enter-
gel by they applied to another, who consented to fill the
office, but as the gentleman said at the meeting, having
been called upon on the spur of the moment, he was not
perhaps up to the business about to be brought before
them. The consequence was that the persons calling
the meeting stood in the room, and though they were
*Ming to sign the memorial, they did not like coining
forward to speak. The first resolution was carried, as
was also the third, and a great number signed the
memorial. The latter was afterwards talien round to
the householders, when a great many additional signa-
tures were obtained.
Mr. HoLMES said, as one who bad attended the meet-
ing, he felt upon leaving that the people appeared to
have sufficient confidence in their representatives to let
the matter be entirely in their hands.
Mr. HILL having stated that he considered the wishes
of the memorialists complied with, the subject dropped.
The CHAIRMAN having stated that the models of boats
would be open for public inspection after next Wednes-
day week, the proceedings terminated.

THE BOROUGH REVISION.—The Revising Assessor
assumed his duties yesterday in St. George's-hall, at
ten o'clock, and the following is the result of the busi-
ness :—West Derby, from the end of the letter C :
Conservatives made objections 286, struck off 255,
withdrawn 25, made claims 2, allowed 2. Radicals
made objections 218, struck off 176, withdrawn 14,
paid costs ss, made claims 10, allowed 2. Toxteth
Park—Made objections : Conservatives 193, struck off
135, withdrawn 47 ; Radicals made objections 168,
struck off 75, withdrawn 22, made claims 6, allowed 2.
Total Conservative objections struck off, 390 ; total
Radical objections struck off, 251. Majority for Con-
servatives, 139.
THE FUNERAL OP THE LATE JAMES ROBERTSON,
ESQ.—The remains of this respected and much lamented
gentleman will be removed from his residence, Peel-
street, Toxteth-park, for interment in the cemetery at
Smithdown-lane, at a quarter past nine to-morrow
morning. Mr. Robertson was chairman of the 19th
(Scottish) L.R.V., and the officers and men of that
division have signified their intention of being present.
A detachment of the 71st Highland L.R.V. will also
take part in the procession, out of respect for the
memory of Mr. Robertson. The police force under
Major Greig will also be largely represented. The
Volunteers will march from the storehouse of the 19th,
in Great George-street, at 8.15 a.m., headed by the
band of the 2nd Battalion,

1 MERSEY DOCKS AND HARBOUR BOARD.

The listed vfecl ly,meetino. of this body was held yes-
terday, at the Doct Oltces in Revenue Buildings. Mr.
Charles Turner presided ;' acid the other members pre-
sent were Messrs. Rankin, Prnoifl, Segar, Mendel,
Lockett, Darbyshire, Littledale, eaves, Farnworth,
Hubback, Tobin, Shand, Forwood, BOiAlt,. Langton,
Bushell, Inman, Brocklebank, and Evans.

THE COMMITTEE OF WORKS.
The proceedings of this committee comprised a re-
commendation to erect staircases, with pipes and
hydrants, at each end of the warehouses at the Stanley
i D'ock and also to accept a tender of Messrs. Jones and
Yinielpria, wed, at
Bialin
suhpepadlY. .ing sliding-doors to the
I
A letter. it leemed; had been received from Messrs.
Rankin, Gilnicraic attls Co.; relinquishing 3,475 yards
of land which they oecity. on' tho Harrington estate,—
Accepted.
Mr. BROCKLEBANK moved the' covfirmatikm of the
proceedings.
The question of a shed for the labourei alt Canada
Dock had been postponed for a week.
Mr, FORWOOD called attention to one entry in the
books—that which meant that an additional staircase
simply should be added to each end of the Stanley Dock
Warehouses. Was that, he asked, the only new provi-
sion intended for such a valuable property ?
The CHAIRMAN said that was all at present. The
committee could not see their way clearly to more.
Mr. Fogwooro had noticed that the police regulations
were deficient. There was simply one policeman pre-
sent at, the origin of the fire. He had expected, after
• what he had heard Mr. Holm say, that there would
have been a general report on the subject of extinguish-
ing fires. The different insurance companies had ex-
' pected a valuable opinion to be rendered to the Board.
Mr, DRO'CKLEBANK, in reply, explained that it was
impossible to put tanks on' the roof, but that the stair-
cases suggested would be varuahle, as they would afford
access to every storey, and the present provision was
such that every floor in an emergency eotild be flooded.
With reference to any future danger, the committee had
given it no thought, as they considered that the present
pipes and hydrants would be sufficient.
k recommendation from the Engineer, or his assis-
tant; was then read, to let the Morpeth and Egerton
Docks at Birkenhead run dry, preparatory to the letting
of the -*afar into the Great Float.
Mr. LocKtrir said` lie had heard nothing of the
subject before.
The CHAIRMAN said there cold be no harm in it.
There was very little business doing at Birkenhead.
Mr. LOCKETT thought just the reverse. The applica-
tions were most numerous, and there was neassity for
care on the part of the Harbour Master that ships
might not enter there and claim damages afterwards.
The CHAIRMAN said he had no doubt the matter
would be considered by the Works Committee.
Mr, BROCKLEBANK said it was absolutely necessary
that the dock should be run dry, on account of the
Great float being opened early in November. We had
now reached October,

ii;:i;cicinirtionght they were all unanimous that
the necessary notices should be given; and the subject
ilia dropped:
The proceedings of the Warehouse Committee were
then read and conffrmed, on the motion of Mr. Hubback

THE mmairm odiumrrtgE.
In the minutes of this committee was included a
recommendation to accept the tender of Messrs. If, M.
Lawrence and Co., for the supply of eiuht buoys, four of
them nuns and four cans, for Hilbre Wash.

Mr. Hubback and Mr. Mondell having joined the
committee at one of their meetings, a report had been
read from Mr. Gisborne, in which it was suggested that
a portion of the submarine cable intended to be laid
between Point Lynas and the Great Ormeshead should
be laid down between the Rock lighthouse and Bootle
Bay, with the view of carrying the link so far as the
Piirice's Landing7stage,—this to be by way of experi-
ment, and that the wite should be carried in a line to
bye suggested by the engineer, which should be north of
the north Nit.

Mr. Momekry Moral the c'onfirrnation of the proceed-
ings, and mentioned the fact that the telegraph line
had been completed between Birkenhead and Holyhead
within the last few days, and it had, been working most
satisfactorily. The Board would understand that the
line was complete and efficient for its ordinary prirpbse, '
but it was still incomplete for the other object contem-
plated, that of saving life when a shipwreck happened
on the sandbanks. They had a lifeboat at present, with
a steamer attending at all hours ; but it was desired that
they should have a further Wire across the Mersey, to
connect that in Cheshire along with the landing-stage,
so that at midnight, if necessary, the steartgroat could
take the lifeboat out, and with that view he hoped that
would be about £5O or £6O, with this advantage, that
the Board would sanction the necessary expenditure, which
in so doing they might test the question whether further
electric coninionieation could not be made across the
river. He thought that a fitting opportunity to suggest
to the Board and the committee that they should record
a vote of thanks to the overseers and landed proprietors
who had se' kindly aided them by granting their permis-
sionclatnatotior.) along their property with the wire. (Ac-
clamation.)
Mr. GRAVES said that iti listerridg to the minutes, he
had heard a reference made to a letter from the Board
of Trade respecting one of the buoys in the Channel,
and he wished it to be read, and that the chairman
should state its purport. With regard to the vote of
thanks, he thought it better that the usual course should
be followed. He should be glad to see it done propprly,
by a recommendation coming from the Marine Com-
mitteet which should mention the names of those con-
cerned, because some of them might have formed an
exception; and as proposed they would be included with
those Who had given assistance.
The Cniiingloi—Perhaps they will bring it forward
as a specific motion next week:
Mr. EVANS—And give sufficient reasons for it.
(Laughter.)
Mr. LOCKETT could not understand Mr. Mondel's
statement about having the lifeboat ready at nights.
Mr. MONDE', replied that the present was an experi-
Merit to see whether the cable could be laid down suc-
cessfully or not between the two sides of the river.
What he meant was, that when the communication was
complete, intelligence of a disaster could readily be corn-
municated to' the landing-stage, where people were
alway's on the alert, night and day. The points from
which such dontrittnications were received would be the
Leasowe lighthattrie, and perhaps the Point of Ayr.
From those two stations and B'idston notice of an acci-
dent might be conveyed to the `landing-stage, and mea-
sures taken to afford relief. With reference to the com-
munication from the Board of Trade, a schooner had
got aground at Waterloo, and this being reported by
the coast guard had led to the correspondence ; but the
Marine Surveyor's report, which was read to the board
Mt Tuesday, had shown satisfactorily that the result
arose from the want of knowledge on the part of those in
charge of the schooner. The vessel had got wrong by
steering a wrong OHM.
In answer to Mr. Tobin,
ilr. McigriEL said, as a nautical man, he should say
that the seltdo'ner had' stranded in consequence of those
on board, when comino' up the east side of the channel,
having kept a channel course:
The CHAIRMAN called attention to the fact that by
the statement of the Engineer the cost of laying the
telegraph wire across the river would be £3OO ; but that
meant the laying it along the entire route from Wal-
lasey Bridge to the other point on Bootle shore, and
thee to the landing-stage. The object was princi-
pally- td deposit the wire, with the view of seeing if
the commtinidatiolt could be made perfect across tile
river, before they inehered the elpense of the line across
the land.

Mr. BROCKLERANK said that the laying of this cable
was merely experimental, to see if a wire could be laid
clear of the anchorage of vessels. If. that succeeded,
they should bring it, up the Liverpool side, and carry it
down to New Brighton. The cost of the whole would
be £300; but, the cost of this experiment would be only
tAi, so that the electrician might test the wire for a
month of two, to see if it kept intact. If so, it would
be brought lip to the landing-stage from the Bootle
landmarks.

The proceedings of the liiiatac.,,e Committee, and of
the Committee for the Management of the Docks and
Quays, were read and confirmed,'as Were also those of
the Master Porterage Committee.
COMMUNICATIONS.
_ _

The following letter from Mr. John Fazakerly, with
reference to the retention of the timber trade at the
smith, was then read :
TO CHARLES THRNEII, ESQ., CHAIRMAN OF THE MERSEY DOCKS

ANI) lIARBOUR BOARD.
DEAR Strs,—Knowing your courtesy I presume to address
you, and, through you, the Mersey Docks and Harbour Board,
on the subject of south dock accommodation for the business
in which I ani engaged. That there is not sufficient water or
land space at the north end is self evident, and, as I know that
the whole capacity of the nortn docks (Canada and Huskisson)
can only accommodate the discharging of the same number of
vessels, timber laden, that the Brunswick Dock alone can do,
and that in fo-nrer years the trade required the use of the
Huskis'on Dock as a relief, I feel that it is not beyond the
province of my duty to call your attention to a few facts which
may ha've some weight with you as to the desirability of the
Brunswick Dock being still appropriated to the use of the
timber trade of the port. Prior to the thiskisson Dock beimg
opened, many and great complaints were made during the
time of the spring and fall imports for want of room in the
Brunswick Dock for vessels timber laden, and it was no un-
common occurrence for some of them to remain in the river
for weeks. It was then that the slip on the east side of the
Huskisson Dock was formed, so as to be a. relief to the south
docks at the time of pressure, and for a time it answered the,
purpose. Further accommodation was also taken into con-
sideration, and since that time the Canada Dock has been com-
pleted, and a number of the merchants engaged
.in. the trade
have removed their establishments to that locality ; but that a
number of dims engaged in the trade having gone there makes
it unnecessary further to continue the Brunswick Dock for the
use of the trade is a mistake. The traderequireseVen more ac-
commodalimthan it did when the Huskisson Dock was used
merely as a relief to the Brunswick Dock, and, if fairly dealt with,
it will go on increasing, and the Brunswick Dock will he
required ere long in its entireness for the use of the trade, aicd
it would be a short-sighted policy indeed, on your part, to
alter it for any other purpose until you have some other dock
prepared for the reception of vessels engaged in the timber
trade. It is, perhaos, superfluous for me to tell .yon that,
during a considerable part of the winter months, the traffic
up the river from" the extreme north docks will be next to
impossible. For this, I think, you are in some measure pre-
pared. A very short time, however, will settle that point. At
all events, the south docks will always be , preferred in the
fall. Therefore, it is not altogether a selfish object we have in
view when asking you to let the Tironswick Dock remain as a
timber dock for our use, but for a general and beneficial good.
I remain, dear sir, very respectfully, your most obedient
servant, JOHN FAZAKERLY.
Queen's Dock, Sept. 29th, 1860.
The letter was referred.
The next communication was from the Woodside
Ferry Committee, submitting the model of a passenger
f
gangway
con-
nected from
with
i thr owh thei
theyerry
wbeeraets , and t
willing
to
oi e
eappliances
t their
own expense on the George's Landing-stage.
jumping on
and off the boats, and the iron railing connected with When not
in use, the latter would prevent people born ,
it
had been. approved by Mr. Hartley.
The CHAIRMAN could not recollect that they had
ever had any report from Mr. Hartley.
e Committee.
had better be referred to the Marine
gr l
yh had
againstbeen
This was agreed to.
neefhai money ap,l3dlepartment, for •
on the subject. It
received TheCAAmlamm sr.N
the board that he
had more space
the opinion uttered at. 3 stlerotten
than was required by his estab-
lishment.
at the Iluskisson Dock
They
With reference to the two-storey
would apply for more. .
mtlaieein,
esrtate(l
protestingtliat
had not enough, and in a short time
vaults, lie wished it to be understood that, in
sheds and
away.
Cambridge,
second storey was useless, and the vaults
his opinion, the
l.telaltrioenn-nfraewnal
Mr. a
an increase_ of
would
The b e s
receipto
n mentioned; and thepublic b •
business
clerk in the
closed. --
of salary, town -( tic,
was the

BROWN and BACON mist respectfully announce to their cus-
tomers, and the public generally, that they keep a large and
well-selected stock of articles required for Family Mourning;
and that all Funeral and Mourning orders are attended to with
the greatest care and economy.—Magazin i 81, 83, and 65
„old-street.—Adv,