The Stourbridge Observer, Cradley Heath, Halesowen & District Chronicle.
Stourbridge, West Midlands, England, 1872-08-03 00:00:00

pirPRRI AT% PARLIAMENT.

In the House of Lords, July 29, Lord firdisbury, hi moving
tor returns, again adverted to the proposed hdroductii n of
responsible Government In the Cape Colony. He said that
the eastern colony if the Cape—the most English and
pasogressive—wee about by the system of respoueible
Eto,-,rwe.t to be brought under ausolate servitude
to the Dutch majority of the weaterti dtplrlet. in de-
amihing the situation of affair to the coloey, he hien
dm-daily adverted to glee" contempt" wlth which he said
ger Majesty's thovernment were In customeil to treat the
House of Lord.," a statement Which Lord Granvi do who
Mee to order. indignantly denied, but *bleb I, ill Sall,hury :
proceeded V.lnsttfY Predicting that it a small and .liataLt
were handed over to tbother an I hmtile race ,
their interetta soul k hi n•fireLed, and dangerous cons,
unwires would ensue, he ask, d that the issue might be once
more remitted to the.tecielon of the people.
Lord Kimberley, after satirically complimenting Lord
Bans or) on his 0w`..11.1y .4 strong tel allege, clutreeteriz...t
as mist tmreatt.sble the d, of A defeated minority for
shoner gelomd el, eaow. The people had got an unwort.
able c.l.distitiitiou and he had told them they must eith. r
IQ forwards or bad:earls. lie lid them he thought it
WiMid be latter upon the whole if they went forward in
the path of responsible Government, but his lartmiago had
always been Do as you like " It was difficult to reconcile
the jealousies of two rival districts and capitals, but he be-
lieved that a solution of the difficulty would come after rtr
sponsible Govelument had been definitely adopted. There
might thin be a division into tho or more provinces with a
central Government. .

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Alter a brief discuesfon the motion was agreed to.
Lord Cowper to reply to the Duke of Mancheates) gave
certain explanations as tothecmin. f aernstional Congress
the Metrical System of Weights and Measures.

The Local Governnwmt It.mrd (Ireland) Bill, the Irish
Churzh Act Amendincnt (No. 2) Biß, and the Factories (Steam
Whistles) Bill were read a second time.
The Masters and Wol kmen (Arbitratinn) Bill and the
Elementary Education (Elections) (No. 2 Bill were read a
third time and passed, and their lordships adjourned.

la the House of Commons, Mr. Gladstone, questioned by
Gosling and Sir John Lobbeek, declined to make any
aPPOlntments for returning the iialway elation debate, or
.Icr the debate on the management of Kew Gardens, until
13upply has been completed and two or three easel:Dal
ineasures forwarded ; but he added that he held Sir John
Lubbock to have the tint claim to the unoccupied time of
the House after the Government business was disposed of.
Mr. Bruce, in reply to Sir C. Dilke, declined to give any
rtdrn.thoar, y
the election :iarmtemalbetvri.tlLt htlilegozrtnr ;0;1.1
Board.

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The House then went Into Committee of Zupply on the
Navy Estimates.
On the Vote for Naval Stores, Ac. (£928,97).1), the battle
between the Welsh and the North Country coal was re-
newed and (ought over again for some hours by Mr. II
Vivian and Sir J. Elphinstone on one side, and Mr. Hender-
son, Mr. Gourley, Mr. Singular, and Mr. Lancaster on the ,
other. Mr. Shaw-Lefevre explained the latest decision
of the Admiralty, which, speaking broadly, Is to use
Welsh coal in the Channel, Welsh coal chiefly in
the Mediterranean, and the " mixture' on other
Porn go stations. Mr. Corry, who spoke on the side of
the Welsh coal, refmred to the Admiralty orders revulating
the use of coal, and the controversy raised by lord Clarence
Paget, which provoked swarm reply from Mr. Goscheo who
maintained that lord Clan rice olrrle at the Admiralty had
proposed, and while in Ct.111111.131i of the Mediterranean had
issued orders more stringent than those compleined of.
Mr. Rylauds moved a reduction of L 150,000, but he did not
press it ; and, after a discursive discussion of the details, rise
ote was agreed to.
On the next vote, or rather the second part of the same
vote, £459,116 for steam machinery,
Major Beaumont made some observations on the recent
experiments on the Weirton ; and the Government moved to
report progress.
Mr. dCumnsi,s, Mr ROands, Mr. C Bentlock, and Sir J.
Elphinstone remonstrated agairat this intorruotion of the
business of Supply, pointing to the unusually backward
position of the Estimates, but the 113.011 war agreed to.
The House then took up the adjourned dehate on the
Army Locilizatlou (Expenses) bill, and ou a d.vision, the
second reading was tented by 170 to 24.
The Merchant Shipping and Passenger Acts Amendment
Bill was passed through Committee.
Several other bills were forwarded a stage, and the House
adjourned at 25 minutes past two o'clock.

In the House of Lords, July 30, the Municipal Corpora-
tions (Borough Funds; Bill, and the PawnhroEls' Bill, were
brought up and read a first time.
The Corrupt Practices at Municipal Elections 818 passcd
through committee, and was reported.
The amendments to the Mines R -gestation Bills were re-
ported. A further amendment by the Marquis of Salisbury
waa agreed to alter some conversation.
On going into committee on the Wild Birds Protection
Bill, the Earl of Slalmesbury explained the alteration which
had been made in its passage through the Rouse of Cora-
mons and before the select committee to whom it was re-
ferred. He asked their lordship* to pace the bit efth.ot
alteration, except to amend it by providi g for those C ek-
ney sportsmen who might not know one small bird from
another, and for whose first offence there should be Only a
reprimand.
A conversation followed, in the course of which Lord
Cairns said he thought people should be left at liberty to fire
at birds, provided they did not kill them.
The bill passed through committee, with some amendments.
The Statute Law Revision (Ireland) Bill was read a second
time.

The Railway Rolling Stock iliistraint', Bastardy Law
Amendment, and Judges Salaries tills were read a third
time anti passed.

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The Commons amendments to the Church Seats Bill were
agreed to, and their lordships adjoulned.
In the House of Commons, Mr. Bruce, in reply to Colonel
Corbett, said that he considered the discerns', di of last
Saturday most profitable, as it had elicited unmistakable
Indications of the views of the fuse upon one of the most
dangerous and digt,:lilt portions of the Licensing Bill, which
had been overcome. It was the intention of the Govern-
ment to press forward the bill (cheers), and he had no doubt
they would be able to pass it this session.
Mr. W. E. Forster, in reply to Mr R. Torrens, reiterated
his former answer that the Government were nut prepared
to open any of the public museums on Sundays. Although
there wean feeling on the part of some persons in favour
of minday opening, there was a very strong feeling if a
contrary description, and especially among the working
clams. a dtputation of whom had reminded him that in the
last division on the subject in IS.°, 576 voted against the
motion, and only 40 for it ; and that only 34 055, persona
Pale. oned for Susday opening, and 629 Cm against it.
Mr. Torrens gave notice that early next session he would
call attention to the question, aml would move that the
public museums, and Institutions of a similar character,
should he up. a on Sundays.
Lord Elcho wished to ask the Vice. President of the
Council a gnestion with reference to the cattle disease lie
Bait been informed that the carcases of diseased itrissi in
cattle had beau washed ashore in his own county. The
right hon, gentleman informed him that au Inspect 4'
bad been sent down ; but he bad that morning learned
that since Friday the carcases and entrails of diseased
cattle had been coming ashore, over an extent of
eight miles : and on Saturday as many as forty pieces of
mitred were buried by order of the police, and sluice then
four carcases had been sound,
Mr. Forster said the Government had taken all the pre-
cautions in their power. The local truth -cities had been
warned of the danger, and of the responsibility resting upon
them, and Inspectors Symons and Brown bad been sent ter
the northeast coast to give every advice and riadstance Ile
was afraid the statement oh the noble lord must be correct.
He knew only of three cargoes which brought cattleclisease.
They came to Leith. Newcastle, and Bull, and were slaugh.
tered at the port of lancing. At Leith the animals were sent
out to sea and sunk in lighters. Be had Dist heard of a cargo
coming Into Deptford, some animals of which had been thrown
overboard in the high seas—a thing which it was impossible
for the Government to prevent. Warning had been given to
the authorities on the coast. It was of no use denying that
the comitry was in danger of having cattle plague There
seemed to he a most extraordinary outbreak In the East, and
every cargo fr. m Russia seemed to bring it. The import
from Ramie would, however, be entirely stopped in a few
days.
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in reply to Sir J. flay, Mr. Forster said that the greatest
possible care was taken with regard to disinfecting the ships,
and prohibiting their again bringing cattle liming the next
three mouths.
Mr. Graves brought forwent his long-pending motion for a
Royal Commission to inquire into the Shinning of the Navy.
into the Reserves. and tote the best means of making a sea-
faring population more readily available in time of wer.
lie prefaced his practical suegestioes by ali argument that
our policy of Nen-intervention in reality meant isolation, and
that hereafter we shall have to rely exclusively on our own
strength. To make us impregnable we reqiiireit ample
Naval Reserves, and he wished to see the Votwitter
movement extended to the seafaring population by attach-
tog the riggers, boatmen, fishermen, and others connected
with the sea to gun-b at stations all round the coast. Ile had
received assurances hem many quitters that lithe Govern-
ment would lay down a Van, and shorn the eecessary facilities
large numbers of these Volunteers would present themselves.
Admitting that we had now a perfect system of direct re-
cruiting for the Navy, Mr. Graves argued that in time ot
war we must depend on the Mercantile Marine for our Reserves,
and that something ought, therefore, to be done to improve
its condition. At present the number of men in the Mer-
cantile Marine fit for the Navy was diminiehing, and the
annual drain was supplied mostly by landsmen and
foreigners, who were no use for the Reserves. Foe
remetly hie this state of thiugs, Mr Graves made several
euggestb.ns, arid laid great stress on a common system
of training for both services. Ile suggested, further,
that a Royal Prince should be connected with the Reserves.
Criticising, too the regulations of the Royal Naval Reserve,
he recommended relaxations lathe stringency of some rules
which discouraged men from entering, and, among other in-
ducements, suggested that many ot the appointments in the
gift et the Government—mch as the pest of boatman in the
Customs—should be appropriated to Reserve men.
Mr. T. Brassey, iv seconding the motion, made various
suggestion. for the improvement of the Reserves among
others, that a bones should be giving to sailing ships to take
apprentices and that the wbole body of the Reserves should
be under the superirtemlance of a naval ier of high rank.
Mr. launches, while admitting the Imporainee of ample
Reserves, took exception to Mr. Graves's doctrine that be-
cause the State might require a certain number of men from
the Mercantile Marine it was bound to provide and train
men far that Marine. At the tunic time the Government
would he preferred to co-operate with the Mercantile Marine,
and on the principle of paying by remits would bear Its share
in the expense of training inja lor the Merchaot err.
vice under proper mcurities that they keried the Naval
'Reserve. The lresident of the Board of Trade was con-
sidering a scheme for this purpose, anal the proprhty of
connectiog a Royal Prime with the Reserves had also been
considered As to the conaitioris for entering the Reserves,
Mr. Goschen pointed out that we required two kinds—a sea-
goina Reserve and. R.serve for home defence. With regarilto
the first, it was inuossehle to relax emulations which were re-
united to weure efficiency ; but, with regard to tile sound.
class Rosen, the coalitions were snow being second lered.
For Coast Defences, Mr. Goechen approved the V. iunteer
scheme sketched by Mr. Graves. and the Admiralty weal
glve every facility for carrying it oat. At the same time he
did not speak in a very sanguine trine of its succe s it
the ditfieulties in the way should prove too great, the
Admiralty hail a plan in preparation for mit olliug and training
the seafaring population all round the coat
Eventually, Mr. Graves withdrew his motion, not wi
to embarrass the A Imlralty and the board of Trade In
preparation of their plans.
The Registration of Births and Deaths IRIII was withdrawn.
The Lords' amendments to the Snot--h Edoeatien RN were
considered, and the Mat was the amerniment intl. Preamble,
where the lord. had inserted a recital that religious educe-
Mon hod always been recognized and sanctioned by leftist.
Men In Scotland. The Lordadvodate proposed iii amend-
ment to this, which In substance substituted • custom "to,
n legislation In this change there was a general ecqiica-
cence, with a few protests : tut Mr. A. Herbert iiisissed en
dividing the ilimee In leveer of the Lards' Ametelment.
He was beaten by 113 to 5, and the Lord-Advocate's proposal
was theo agreed to.
The nest amendment referred to the muchvexed qnestion
of the Scotch Eaucation Department or Daiwa, and, for the
Lords' Amendminit, the Lord Advocate proposed tr substi-
tute • Commission of five members, three only of whom are
to be paid, apriointai for two years, with powers and
functions defined in a long clause. In the end the Lord-
Advocate carried Ids amendment by laa to 72. The other
amendments were agreed to with a a: 'eretions.
The Military Forces LacalisatMn aspeneesa Bill paawd
through Genemittee, and after !some other ler Mese had 1t0.,,
disameed of, the Liolau adjcurned tt twenty tunantes peat
two o'clock-
In the House of Commons, July 01, dir D. Wet:der:lawn
gave notice for Sir It. Austruther that on the Civil dersoce
Estimates he would move the redaction of the education
vote by LI,Ma, being the salaries i; prefers aa ci jie niedical
faculty Inn the riiivenaty of Edinhurgh.
Mr. Howard gave notice that, with a view to increasing
the productien ,d farms and cheapenitor the price ef moo*,
he would next .5810111111 We for inane to hr-hg in a bill to
extend and legelkic agticalteral tenant-50441n Dreat Britain.
hoar.)

Mr. Forster, in reply to Mr C. S. Read, said he had Corn-
mitaleated with the German Fishing, and had just gigged
a letter froin the ehargt d' at atm stating that &telegram tr.d
tarn received to the effect that steps had been taken by the
~enate of Lubeck to prohibit the IMport and transpoit of
Rusaian cattle, hides, Ac , into that pig. With regard to
the question whether, considering the close proximity of
Members and Lubeck to Holstein, he would revoke
the recent order which permitted cattle to he taken
to any Part of the United Kin.tdom, that was a
very serious matter, anti one which was occupying his
claxest attention, but he could not give soy answer
to ft. Olt OW one hand, he di suit deny that there apnea/rid
to be i,atixer on account of the proximity of Ii imimig to
Schleswig-Holstein ; tut, on the oth r he must rememner
the high ; re • of meat, and the Privy Council must not
allow tiiennedv s by any enrearonable fear to increase the
/pine. Int, geretice aiti, tin- imp rt born schlestvis Holstein
would he a meet serious uistnr at this moment. During the
NA thee, weeks the minder ii eat' is impor eel irons i•er•
owl Lito Great Britain was 5.103, of which 3J.76 were front
h''birowjc. 11. detain, and all calm bito the pig, of L lidon, and
as lie had re9lloll to lie love that Import would be seriously
affected by cancelling the existicgOrder in conned, the [l'm.,
would not be surprised if he liii not take that step unless it
were abso!utely necessary ; it it were necessary, however,
it 'bon' d on. done. For along time he had received repro-
sentatloni that Schleswig Holstein cattle shnuld be imported
ithout the necessity of befog slaughtered on lauding, and
his reply was that that could net be done unlee ailemiate
security were given. The security which was now given
wider the Order in Council was that the importer entered
two a b n-1 of el ern not to inport cattle except with a
Goverunient certincate to the effect that they wren from
Sallee wic-Ifoistein, and under the further condideis that the
vessel had riot within three months hail OD baar.l any cattle
exported from any in.rt of the empire of Germiug other
than Schleswig-Holstein, or from any scheduled country ;
that it had not entered any of the scheduled ports ; and that
none of the cattle imported hail been in contact with cattle
so imported. Enr many mouths strong pressure bad been
brought to induce the Privy Council to admit all German
Cattle into the interior. He hoped that the persons interested
would see that if this relaxation had hien male the spread
of cattle plague throughout the country could not have been
avoided (hear, hear).
Mr It. A. Cross moved the second reading of the Ecclesi-
astical Courts and Registrars Bill, which had been paused by
the House of Lords. The bill, he explained, was intended
to remedy the grievaucea of the great delay and expense
which attended all ecelesiaAlcal procedure. and of the very
large amount of fees which were collected from, In many
caves, persons very unable to pay them, and the small
amount of the work for Which the fees were collected. But
at flits late period of the se.lon he did not intend to press
the bill
Mr. Gladstone thanked the hon. member for the clear and
Comprehensive statement in which he had submitted the
matter to the House, anti admitted that it was a subject
which required the early attention of tile Legislature. Ile
did riot, however, think that it was one which could be
ads intageounly taken in hand by the Government, but lithe
hon. gentleman would introduce a bill upon the subject
early next session, the Government would give every facility
for proceeding with it.
Dr. Bali suggested that the bill should be reintroduced
early next session, and then be referred to a select com-
mittee on chick the Government and the leading members
of the legal profession would be represented.
After a discussion, in which several hon, members took
part Mr. Cross said that he had no inteetion to press the
bill to a second readout, and the motion for second reauing
and the amendment were both mg dived.

adj. tuned delnte on the sec-ond reading of the Hosiery
Nlanufseeuve (Wag,.) bill was resumed, but eventually the
1,111 was talked out
The other orders were disposed of, and the House ad-
stoned.