The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
Dorchester, Dorset, England, 1880-06-15 00:00:00

COVITOPOIIberiCt.

TIM O.W.L.C. AND Till cotteeit.
The next business was 'to ~,t Mr. Voss with roped
to the tramway of the harbmr." Mr. Vole, however. had
not put in an appearance, but hod tent a telegram express. .
Mg his inability to be here before half-past three in the
poireble for opinions exere.sed in letters ; these ama
afternoon. to allow ventilatiou even of opinious with
Accordinely the CHAIRMAX suggested that the matter iunerted
repielin wo ask readers to remember that we are net
'timid stand adjourned till the time, when they could which we disagtee.)
again meet. TIIE DEBATE ON THE OPIUM TRADE.
An opinion was expressed that they ought not to meet
him without the Mayor, he being the chief witness. To Ike Editor.
The Onetitigee roes to explain the absence of the Mayor.
Sir,—lf there is rine pelitir el question of Twit imnerten .r,
but the meeting did not Peek that neceisary. hi M the people of D ereeeter Mayo had se eoel ce,eo:-
Mr. ROOM: I think, after what has 'aken Plac•-e and
u tof India to the °Mum trade in Closes. Toy
who entered into the arrangement, is the one who should
6°Y'rat4anan adventage of hearing all tho beefing: of the
meet Mr. Voss, and see whether the Ilan is &meeting to have he
pound d by a man, not only one of th meelv e,
Kr. Voss coming do.", here, that the Moyer, a, the one rrnitiee of etirly;ng at tir.t bane, it is the eel alien of the
1 nsetter ex
the arrangements which he on the pert of the Council care eouelly smeng themselves, en•loeed ePh
agreed to. Ido hope that in future, in whatever is done
in regard to the Great We•tern, we shall hove the vises
laid before the Council, and that no individual, be he M e . srience ot. China, and, what is more, with •
p ence is apt .to peeluce only call melees to
mayor or alderman, or anyone else, should give leave for h
irrbur!hticatain.eird of morality justice, and sympathy, without
alone. It this were done we should have avoided what I
George
brother,' the Rev Arthur.ll lute. Nor have the
hope won't be • cause of unplessantaess to this meetine.
anything to be done eimpt on the vote of the Council cazieietthwaingemaciriiiniswtanhoices.i.
this
matter,
ohfaacobauurhoma.htioy the Rev.
hitedovi
what they can to further the interests of the company;
I feel there is not an individual but is very anxious to do Pehyocolesh
oyf n
theiro r ebus;
it,.:
rtr anti
un t.ti
chie
in
titleneighbourhoodmat It
tera
as
largely
a tol g
profitee i the influence of Mr. G. Motile that the Synod of
but their interests and those of the town mineral'', must go
a • wry pa_ seed,
resolution
the
dmotien of the Rev. Canon
d
there are many here who would consent to occupy their
he.id'
its • fact that in this neigebeurbo 4 of D orche•ter
peition, unless they felt that their dictum in any m tie r that it
ewohilialatewraellareir and
de
inCuotcruilaoft"theitsharborou. Merl. dhoenartlthitinukt SBninligelheiriitacieraresocuanwLeuunoieinounino% I
tehihrk I
ih.ay
0.,
was finite and not to allow the Great Western A rawly to
overran it. at i
ffe rue,
°IDA
ta It.npuecerti,edi
wg of
he
uth this i subject,
among
mn,uguuwe ra pn
ean ip,:eocri A.?,
no n of ts
w,rt,i
r.
Mr. WALIERR said the fact of the matter was this—a
°eels beingybso speatallaathlkuaniete. m
or neutrals, which is rare in any part of England, not
plea was presented to the Council to which they could
not agree. It was mordingly not sanctioned, but afterreaders to hear from an eye witness
wards they consented to certain thin s being done, and interest to yo
• Thi
urso. _ ey not be without
something of the vein. of last week's debate and
the Mayor had stated to what they weal consent to have
the general Impression produc el by it. It must be
done in • letter to the °mummy. confessed Ilea, the opening was net enceeragiog. Mr.
The Tom Ozzie produced this letter.
Some other discussion took Place after which 1"..
I Posse, the Liheral measlier for So nth Durham, who
Demi said: Let us come to Solna practical conclusion. i allbenches. Mr. Pelee is not
Why don't you move a resolution to the effect that you speech to prs.et cd Y empty . h
13ouzels the subject lef ore the house, commenced his
what can be called on sweeties speaker. Ile as a good
want them to take ur the points I all,
oot over
this
the House'
in
h favhoeuisr.
Mr. WALSER remarked they del not want them to do well
that. They wanted the company to de what the Council delete,' • • t . . . a. ._
Bet be r 4-re too Income:tatty ton 4-4 in his n,n.. Is sow
said, and nothing more.
The Meeoies letter—which was road at the last meeting matter of .
IlOitac whoicahnedinhchoisheiher,d
it mercies
fact and too si.eiply lephieseike. te attract to
b is eutoject (never a popelar one, hematites the c met
having been reed,
Mr. NAMOLZ said he quite woad with Mr. Robens that thef the
business of the town should be done in an orderly and previously taken it up. That i.e was quite mater
before
are not direetly intereot el in it) nasenb ,rs who had not
systematic MaLner. In all cases of such importance as facts no one cone' doeht: ache mucceesively brought re
main portion of the complicit on. These, as your readers
the plans attached to that agreement. Nothing was two
the present they should have a proper agreement and the Hones the four salient points, which go to makeup the
insignificant to be done properly and systematically. He well know, are :
must say in the present instance the loominess had not been I. That the Goveinment of Bengal not only taxes but
curie 1 out in the way it should have been. He did not has an absolute monopoly in the growth and sole of
see weet they had to do with Kr. Toes at the present opium in that province.
Hata It was not toe late for an amended agreement to 2. That on the opium grown elsewhere and going chiefly
be laid before the company. to Beinimy for shipment, the Government levies a heavy
The rMAIMMAS slid they seem el to lose sight of the fact transit duty.
that at the lest Mee. iog there was a resolutou passed to 2. That in order to links Vieille vine tee profitable to the
meet Mr. You. Now, in the face of that how could they Government of India, the English 0 overnment firet con-
shift to, one side. Mead at and encouraged a contraband traffic on Chin e en 4
Alderman THOMAS thought it woul4 be uncourteons not then by the opium war of 185740 and the treaty of -Tien
to receive him and hear what he had to say. He was to Tsin tercel the Chinese tievernment to -Omit opium at
Ming with him the original plan submitted by the company a small customs duty as a regular article of commerce.
to the Bard. They had better ses him and hear what he 4. That in 1878 the Chalon Convention was made between
had to say, and they could then point out theirobianions. an our representative. Sir Themes Wade, awl the Chinese
strongly as if the Mayor was present; and could alter the Government, giving on the one bend &treaters). to &Neigh
present plans if necelearf• merchants in the way of free ports, and on the
Mr. Na.noen said he had no personal objections to meet other hand advantages to China in levying the customs
Mr. Voss, so long as they did net prejedice their position. on opium; that while we have watched and actually
They should not give any final &Mem in the matter, and taken advantage of the provisions in our favour,
it should not hind them to anything roncluevely. we have refused, or omitted, or delayed to ratify or to
The matter then stool adiournel till the afternoon. give to the Chinese the advantage of the provisions in their
THIS PILOPOOLD NSW 14011C-HOUSL favour. Having ch arly set out these points Mr. Pease
The Tows CLZMIL said since the last meeting he had had arlinitted that the lem ind wet third were not within the
an interview with Mr. Deane, the superintendent of the scope of immediate precticel action. He urged that in
Great Western Locomotive Department, with reference to the first, for which several generation. are responsible,
the leasing or the purchase of the Argyle timber pounds. lay the origin of the crime mei the difficulty ; that this
He had explained to the company that it wee the wish of was the point which statesmen should strain every energy
the Council that they shoeld take the lot. They wished to remove in the future, however difficult Mined' ate
to purchase the property, but he had explained to them action might be, owing to the present condition of the
that they could not sell without the consent of the Lords finances of India. The last point, however—the delay in
of the Treasury. If they wanted to buy it they mast pay satisfying the Chefoo convent on—was a breach of faith for
the costs, even supposing the Ceiancil wished to will. The which we, not our fathers, are responsible, and this ought
following letter had been receive 1: at once to be removed. He ended by intimating that he
"Great Western Railway. wonld be perfectly content with a sled oration from Lord
"Locomotive and Carriage Diparttuent. Engineer's Office, flartington that he would hasten this ratification, and
Swindon, June 8 h. 1f3813 take into careful consideration the poseibdity of aiming in
"Petty Hooper. Eel., Weym uth. the future at the abolition of the direct Government trite
" Dear Sir.--In the course of an interview with m/ in the drug. He .poke for shout three-quarters of an hour
chairman yesterday I mentioned our negotiation for lan with the greatest moderation and the meet rareful con-
belonging to your Corporation as • site for our proposed alteration of the position of the Government. During this
new engine-house, when be expressed • very stroller time the House bad been stetting fuller, evi•lently of
opinion in favour of our purchasing the freehold, an members intere.ted iii this matter, and almost all the
desired me to ask you to be so kind es to submit to the expressions of feeling were in favour of the speaker'.
Corporation his request that they would toughier whether attitude.
they would consent to sell the property, ani If so at what He was seconded and supported by Mr. Mark Stowell
price. If necessary an agreed chum could be inserted in on the Conservative side of the House, in fact, one of the
the company'. bill next session to give the Corporation heroes of tbat side just now, h • being the member for
power to sell and the c ompany to porches.. Sir Daniel, Wigtown who turned ,out the L .r.l Advocate when be
however, appeared to think that there would be no great senght re-election. His speech was equally moderate,
difficulty in obtaining the content of the central authori. equally earnest, equally free from any
with
feeling with
ties to the transaction, if the C orp ration and the cornea% that of Mr. Poem, and he carried with him in the same
could agree DA to terms. A reply at peer convenience w way the feeling of the House, stel by no means large. and
much oblige.—Yours truly, still, I think, kept small by the want of oratorical force on
" Wituau Deems." the part of the speaker. 'Then Come Sir George Campbell
Mr. Ranges and Mr. GRAIAM seconded that it be with • speech, which was an exc-Ilent illustration of the
referred to • committee of the we ole Council reasons which have prevented hen, though he rose to the
Agreed to. highest petition in India, from having the influence which
he ought to have in the Engleh H mei of C ommons. He
played the political porcupine to perfection, taking care to
emphasise in every possible way the points of difference
between himself and everybody. It is difficult te give
briefly an accurate idea of his speech, the cross.curreots of
opinion were co many and so rapid; but on the whole he
may b 1 salt to have sympothised in principle with the
resointion. while pretesting est onst any Quixote action in
• hurry. Ter oes thing he said we may be grateful to
him, but only because it served to evince the feriae of the
Fleuse toy the storm of disepprobation it proeuked. He
declared that if the Chinese must he poisoned lie would
retber see the profit of the poisoning in the pekets of the
English Government than of aurae else. Tne protases;
were long and loud, and served to show that public •mieion
is more sensielve to the disgrace now then it e as in the
time of Gerd Palmerston.
Then came Sir Charles Mike, whose "Oka' dety It was
to explain the delay in the ratifiration of the Ciao o con-
vention. 11.5 het n othing to say except that there was
delay; that negotiat ions always took • long time, especially
with China; ant that they would go on as rapidly as was
convenient. He did net venture to offer an explanation
of the fact that long negotiations were not necessary to
enable the British to take advantage of their part of the
treaty which has been done, only to allow the Chinese to
got theirs. If it is permissible to fudge from a maree
manner, I should say that Sir Charles Bilks was a little
ashamed of his part After him Mr. Alderman Feeler,
the Conservative representative of the City of London,
followed with a speech, in which he pleased home the
Patna objections to the stater quo, and appealed to the
0 overnment to pledge its,lf, at least to endeavour to find
a soobstitute for the opium revenue; and, if nothing else
could be done, to put the Bengal trade upon the same foot.
fee as the Bombay trade. It was now Lord Hartington's
turn, earl the House began to fill rapidly. Mr. Fewcett
among others taking a seat upon the Thiamine, Bench, •
fact lt is worth while to mention in view of what hollowed.
Lord Hartingten commenced with the usual Blioi,terial
non possensur. Nothing could be done because the financea
of India were in such • positi on that he could not afford
even to contemplate losing • penny. This, of course,
everybody experead. St far A 1 any IMMO Hat, prospect of
abolition went. But this was not asked by the resolution,
and interest was concentrated upon what would follow;
what would he the expression of the Government upon the
question of principle. what its declaration upon the
Chefoo Convention I The interest soon began to turn to
surprise and irritation when it appeared that tho Indian
Secretary WY ant only not prepared to condemn the trade In
principle, but to turn mend and charge them who objected
to it with • "very cheap !morality." You wish, he said,
to relieve your consciences by taking away *even millions
of the revenue of India without making India any cone
pensatien. And that was the burden of his speech from
beginning to sod. As for the iniquity of the Chefoo Con-
vention, he would only promise that he would refer to
India for information, emeriti' the fact that four years
have already been spent in references backward rand for-
ward. The House was obviously diseppainteet acd the
noble lord sat down in silence, except from some ironical
cheers which areetal his expreesien of a aLefaction that no
division could be taken on the enhject
But this was not to be borne. Dr. Cameron, the member
for Glasgow, was on his feet in an instant, protesting
against the low tone of political morality shown by the
Indian secretary, and moving the adjournment of the
debate in order to enal Is a division to be tame His
argument was mainly • financial one; ingenious, and if
sound, very f ercible. He declared that we are losers
rather than grime's by the trade, if the cost of the opium
wars be set on one side and the revenue obtained on the
other; moreover. England bears the core of the wars, while ,
India pockets the revenue. Aeain toe the 01 overninent I
the cudgels
cuedvegnels
applause.m:et
h 0t hivingc
t,7i n immediate
cal al
conclusive
up beard
e f overri it
erW °ht.
withuhi a:ee withar Mr.t
hly
was pressed for an Answer upon the Chefoo Convention, '
and again in vain. In manner and power Dr. Cameron
was by far the best speaker so far in favour of the resole.
tior and his blows were hard and rapid, and they went
home too, for the whips were set to work, and on both ,
sides of the House members who had heard no word of the
debate flocked in to vote se they were ordered. Then Mr. 1
Stanhope, the late Coder Secretary for India, threw the
protection of the late Ministry over the present, delighted
to see them following in his own steps. His was the same
story as Lord Hareingtone, but better Cala and less
cynically cast. 'edits wants money tied cannot afford to
leave off poisoning the Chinese, this was in fact the
burden of his song; but no wood of the Chefoo Conven-
tion.
Next, the Home Rule party lent ono of its in tot eloquent
members to support the adjournment, Mr. A. AL Sullivan.
He was quite scathing in his morn of the at ttude of the
Government
driv
offending
t hr ni::
smdr
iehnnftotetthe
ant
phe
tai
feeling
spoket
lucki.s
0d;:
Christianl with
the
ee an . f
nuease,..is
eaopa:fyotirori
he et
eytimjilia:.,nal received sift. powerioia:(rotane:
of language which wss perhaps a little spoilt by a rather
well and
exaggerate I rhetoric. How far Lord Hartington had gm
the fact that Mr. Sullivan's compartson of him to Mr.
tiodaasisfosrataulik;of having
downFfiwmftt
bolahsi a r t ilm Jt'
ot:,
tini amusementt
oolymti t.
fallacious
dt :nu:.
ciietrkthgefill so.,
ouQepeuldperrat
:l made i utakp
ir e dt
aumds
wiauthnt
sni . e.d
7leatny mostri I
idos re
'
speeches. He went altogether upon the sessipvuetmhip:i.onntirethalt
sabec::firecteacredtiocrni7danduetowibstiahliastuoo:fhpl
This he did upon purely financial grounds to his
later than himself ; but he had no sooner resumed his
eThmhibenieurga"wcomhmoehbadillinarft4tlGmelldado-f
°ftollyth.m
seat than Mr. Pease recalled the House in • few words to
the fallacy of that position, and protested against his
Glad-
stone's turn, and he had a task worthy of all his ingenuity
and subtlety, which he performed in • manner calculated
to increase lo.is reputation for these qualities, if not for
nen.ministerial Liberals. Conservative.. and Ho
Rulers, earnest ant irritated, while he was supported";
the late Mints ry. He could neither throw h-
Hartington, nor could he follow in his ste over. Lord
producing further irritation. Ile dischargedislalil'acoetillt
task by protesting his own pain and mortification at this
t
source of revenue, by pointing out its instability f
financial point of view, by asserting that h from a
e would shahsh
it at once if he could see the means, but that no
ent was juatified in Govern-
re promising to do what it bad the
wish but not the means to perform. A d u from point to
point he affected to prove in the most ingenious way that
OW was exactly what Lord Hartington meant to sea
his "frank arid manly feshiree" As • say In
• study of meanie4B
dialectic it was admirable, and it '&0 " e present
'6.1, f th
at any rate, the supporters of the resolution who
Wnt
drew the amendment Nevertheless, the ahefooeleth-
vention was entirely ignored, gad no explanation °-
pledge given upon that point. The only party thoroughlyor
satisfied with the debate appeared to be the front
lion Bench, who seemed in
rejoice
that
In et
Opposi-
matterthe present Government had more than let another
Well to follow in their steps. But Ido ell Pledged
the opponents of the opium trade the advocatesno think that
to China need lose heart or ana anythini ofiustice
from the debate, except Perhaps for Lord- H-t
comfortshare in it An opportunity was given +,. artilegten's
feeling of the House upon the '''
ventilate the
hesitate to say that that feeling *matter, and I do not
The Government have plead."( u en in their favour.
had it allowed them, but only or more time and have
phstic disapproval of the traffic Upon the terms of an ems
from the Prime
both. CAI moral
and
financialground T Minister
advised to settle at least that matterlL They
f Mill be well
violation without another year' d lay, o.
the
aFhieefe°°,, eeesje.°P.
find themselves in • commit ar- or
they
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not from any Party spirit or ' a° °Plx"tuon comes
any Calico r
from a com °steep of men of all sectionst° nest ~..ettling, but
who are anxious to free the fair fa
parties,
India from a grievous imputati me of England and of
sounder financial basis of buil:. t°
°awl
the
way
for a
able and profitable scope for zurrenus, • more honour-
ees &elects which must in the sdish commerce. These
Inertia, and great will he the ereeue Prevail against official
whether Liberal or Coneereets it of that Government,
feasible solution for the problem''',
which finds a safe and
Ire
Your 0 t servant.
4. Bosun LOCI.

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URBAN SANITARY AUTHORITY.
A letter was read from Mr. W. Mordaunt Tbiselton
(secretary to the Weymouth Horticultural Society)
requesting the use of the Alexandra Gardens on the occa-
sion of the society's show in August. and also asking the
support of tho C
Mr. LUNDIR proposed and Al I •rmtn THOMAS seconded
that it be grant d.

THE BACKWATER BRIDGE.
Mr. LUNDIB silted if soy steps had been taken u
regarded to ick water 1)-14,..c. The complaint' were
stronger than over of the heavy weights going over, and
It hod become & very scri.,o+ q wstion whether they ought
not to do roni..thing at o iirkly as they possibly could.
They would ccrttinly htve • ',nothing minus happen if
they did not do sorii.w hint. f ,r the amount of weight going
over was ..nmething fearful. lie bed seen two wag
loads of bri7kx gong over at the ,aule time.
The TOWN CLERK would not in any way advise the
Board to take the respon.il.ili.y of the matter. In a
month it would be settled. It would come on at the next
session'. on the tith, and would then be taken to the
assizes. The county authority declined to do anything
more than temporary repairs.
Mr. NANOLE repeated that the matter would be met by
placing • policeman at each enl. They could then regulate
the traffic.
Mr. Amin: You have not the power to do that.
Mr. ROBICES: IS is just this- if people choose to drown
thenusehree they may.
Mr. WALLIS : No, they cut% do that. If anyone saw •
man going to drown himself he could stop him. If I saw
Mr. Ayles go out in the h ab,ur in a boat with the plug
out. I have • right to "top him, bring him back, and put
him in gaol. (Laughter).
Nothing was done in the matter.