The Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1860-03-21 00:00:00

PARLIAMENT.

. HOUSE OF •LORDS..YEsTEnnAy.
The Earl of SHA.FTE6BURY asked if it was intended to
disernhody the militia artillery.
lia!1 DE Gitt.r Axri.Rri.ox said it was, only intended
to disembody four out of the thirteen regiments..
The Earl of ELLENBOROUGH asked =if it was intended
to reduce the strength of.the Royal Artillery. Be con
sidercd it, would -be. a. most dangerous measure under
presant circumstances. .
The Dtike -of- /..1 \NCA-Trri --said
.that -there- -war-no—
intention whateirer to reduce the strength of the
artillery,
The Earl of lgAptEsnußY declared-that he could not
~understand whether all the nailitigt regiments were-to be,
gradually: divembodied, or only the four regiments
alluegt
Earl Gait' said that it tvas`a mistake to embody per-
manently the militia, but it would be a grreater mistake to
Tadao the:RoyatArtilterfc
Earl-Dg .Gent-AND,'Rabisr said: that the,.aoi under
which the Militia were embodied would expire. next
year,ntid it waS•not intended to•renew it. '
The-Maretnis of No AMA Nl3 Y said,that he had intended
to mare .a resolution on tbe suhiesit .of Savoy, but after
theappealOf:Lordlohn Russell in-the other House he
,should postpone it.
Rome bills were -advanced a stage, and the House
adjourned at half-past ave.

HOUSE OF COMMONS.---Y*frital4
The Speaker took his seat'aittiiikOclock.
Mr. H. BitkaßLEt:broaght-forWard his antinal motion
fir leave to ititroilhetl,aTMbiti to cause the elections for
members Of Pailiailnibirld'he taken by ballot. He had,'
he said, looked•throagh the speeches Nf. the eminent
statesmen-. who' had spoken againt the' billet; and he
could not find a single tViilid argument. These gentle:
men thought. ~way and spoke another: They were
like a counsel with a bad cause addressing a biassed:
jury. jury. That House was:, elected by the very sySieni
of open voting which, against reaen, it chose
to continue. It was said that the ballot . was .
till-English ; and it' followed thaC whipping-up
Voters - He admitted that there were
objections to Cher, American system of ballet,, and
denied that the atictinputs agaipst that ystem
to: the ballot- -:was seeret 'bMot as'
rtadopted in Australia which- was ;surtetirie this country,
The weakness of the. reasons .urged ,against the ballot.
,was hi itself a proof how little was to be said against it.
In support of the ballot he 'elited,inapy authorities most
conversant to show the absolute necessity-..for. further
protection to the voters. He made various alltsions to
the .arguments%itinst the' ballot, One of Which was,
that-everything inpaturc was .reverse in Australia -from.-what it was in England ; therefore, as they ballot sue-.
_coded in Australia, it iteutd fail' in Englanir... lie asked
'the House to read the bill a first time, and then to let it
considered together with the other measures now
before the House for the prevention of •elebtoral cor--
ruption, 4
Lord HENLEY seconded the motion. ever might
be-eiils of the ballot, they were lesS than those' of
-
intimidation.
I),kft4 some remarks from Mr. Marsh,
Mr. C. FouTascur,said that years.ago he had given a
vote in favour of the ballot ;
,but ke had thoughtibrichl
-of it since;"and the more he thought of it the lesilief.
liked it. _ His experience in the Colonial-ofiice of the
t: wanted.o eth e
Where. results of the practice in Australia was not favourable.
He believcduthat it rendered elections more; orderly; but'
it would not meet the evils. for
It would which it was proposed.
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• Mr. -LAIvsoN •supported the motion, declaring.; that
he much preferred the Ballot Bill of Mr. Berkeley to
the Reform Bill: of
Loed 'John- R ell. He asserted
that the machinery
for taking-votes'. ,was better before.
the Reform Bill than since, and that corruption was
even more rife thrti! '0..:6 the' last election. ' It became
absolutely ifecessitil tO pnt a stop tb this 46: iym.
Lord. PALMERSTOIi repeated, the -argalmi-4; . e
had, formerly used, that the . franchise 'Was a trust,
' ht, and, like other tritsts"should'b
and not a rig, , , .:, e
exercised openly. .If it was a right, Vim, the
Possessor could deal with it .as , ,be ' pleased,
and bribery 'was`' permissible. :All • : political and
municipal functions, and acts in ;this country;
were done in ,public.' Ballot was .used at the
clubs, but there was no privacy on those pcbasions ; on
the contrary, members were openly canvassed. The ballot
would degrade, and: demoralise the country, and make
,-the, ,etectors either law breakers or hypocrites.' The
measure would fail of its prpole, as' it had already
:done in Australia and America. As an: 'example was
alreoy, given up, he would not repeat the arguments
against the ballot, referring. the;Hpuse to , his former
speech,. which - they would-find in Hansard. He hoped
that at, a). diatant:n day. a -fitting- memorial would