The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
Dorchester, Dorset, England, 1873-03-11 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

MOND AT:—Mr. GLADITOXI sowed the mooted reading of the
roirereity &location (Irelend? Hill. He justified the omission
of the name. of the Council, on the ground Hitt persom would
Dot erne till they knew the duties an 4 id propoting coot.
of arenas co such ground. was. extreme measure. Ministers
would be unworthy of their office if they attempted to '' pack"
Lb. kuunell. It ought to he compomd of MI6 of the greatest
weight in Ireland. The Government woutf, theretne, go to
such men end not ask them whet their politics were, or what
their action had bees in reference to the 1.111.

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Mr. Bonne moved as an lownoment that the Howe
regretted that the Government, ',Tearaway to inviting the
Boum to reed the bill a second tune, bad oot kit it to he their
duty to este to the House the nuncio of the 29 person. who
were to constitute the first onlimary memben of the counciL
He protested against asking the House to take this leap to the
dark. and adopting K. incomplete a mesons
Lord B. Lm ACRIEII MCno, dod the remlutioe. He thought
the Bill neither juot nor equitabia.
Mr. C. E. Uwe, the new member for Londonderry, in •
maiden speech dewribed the NIH.. pertly destructive and
partly conetructlve, and equally objectionable in either light.
Mr. 0. Mono. reported the Bill.
The ORMeoom • admitted that the Rill removed the religious
grievance, hut hio ohnotion to it was that It contained no
yerovbion for the endowment of • dranlyeatablished Roman
Catholic college and university to baths metre, fountain and
guardian of Rom. Catholic education. That Ins whet the
Roman Catholics of Ireiond. lay anal clerical. requited, end
with nothing thort of that would they be content
Lord R. Ifonrooc regarded the bill, as a step In the right

AVM , condemned the bill In eanctioninir thin
rosseurs they would destroy an ancient and illustrione
university. in order to set up In Its place • corporation created
by political nomination. impoo on university torching • Cell-
sonhip to *bleb no man of Independence would for • moment
emboli% and enforce the prinepie thee the points of modern
hintory and the ids. of the deepest thinken shooli not be
*ippon 'pi without suggeeting the mieerable eurpicion that
the object whisb the teacos r had In view wee to promote some
✓eetarian squabble. end not to develop the mind of the etudeut
sad irstend theorises of thought.
TAG Marquis of nattosoron trllowed with al•boured defenoe
of the bill.

fir 11. Bairn argued that the bill woukl In equivalent to
indirect endowment. and that If the first council of the
University Were selected from amongst the most Influential
=. In Ireland. Cardinal Cullen and the prelates of the
Church could not be overlooked
On the motion of Yr. HOGSMAN, the debate was adjourned
until Thursday.
Tel MSC Levu

14RI!lt.

Tranor —Mr. Fusion, moved an •ddrise to the Crewel
for the inu• of It 1110Tal Commiedon to inquire Into the con-
dition of, nod certain practice. connected with, th• com-
mercial marine of the United Kingdom- Nothing we. further
from his intention Ulm in apply hie remarks to the whoa
• shipowning body. They affected • part only of that den of
nyrrTThe low permitted sweets to be ernt to tea with
iL ty. rotten and oserloden, only to be lost with all on
botrd, end MUM reports of the Board of Trade on the nbject
of the ill-found and ternbly decayed condition of weds that
had been lost He hod received a large number of letters on
the .object. One en from • newtable man, who ern for
twelve yean in ehifebeildert• .aard—p•rt of the time et
ountde rlntendent —and who won to 1.1.11 respecting tin
et °Maine In which anion were no often sent to non, dating
flat In the coil ond wood trade the bricantles and other
meals, chiefly small ones. encsred were equipped In the mod
miserable manner ; that one firm sloop loot two or thn•
nemb mery year. and all hoods with them ; that many of
them were lent to sea without any proper ground gear, In
cedar to compel th• captain to complete the journey without
putting In at any In' ermediate port ; that bs had seen radio
drootched with plank. no rotten that wedeln of wood had to
thrust in between them, and with rotten malls and with rotten
main ; and yet crews were oft n imprisoned for ref auto, to
go
to we in such saseels--(bear. hear). Another letter
deemlbed th• cue of • 'mod ef 306 gross tonnage which
was loaded up to 415 toes. ilhe was &net out of
harbour when the storm demi wa• fiyisur,
she had walled another tide she would have been
▪ aisped," on account of bee bdoc no heavily Isden ; but
ohs had merosly got outside when she went down, and all
heads wen 104—(bear, beer). Another otter dewribed how,
I. • port, a mew refused to go to ma in • nee!, alleging
that she was unseaworthy ; that they wen motwnd to
three imenthe looped...meat ; that a wood crew erty.t ae for
as =lard In her, hut refuted to go furtive, IbM oh• wee then
earnyed and condemned; but the lint crew lost their clothes
la bar, and had no retiree for the Injury Hat hod bees dons
tanns—(bwer, heart Another letter bad been writhes to him
=Hem= who was one of tha highest nod most onquee-
authoritim on the subject In Inciond, who declared
that many peens had been c,,ndensoed for manslaughter who
lem &nerved punishoomet then mew of the borbwous &rows
who met overladen Aloe to set—(hear), le • case of • need
that hod been lost, the tales of oottoa that Inn her load ware
so numerous that the crew had to walk on the top of them In
order to work ber. Yet, the owner gravely amend that the
greater the number of tans the safer It we.. bemuse If the dip
went down the crew and pomanders weld have m axed the
chinos of mosping--(hear, hear). Another leier told
Clso;& local Ibis of iroofacton who ware asked to repute the
Noah of a large steamer. They found it could only be P
done by cutting off the Injured part, but the &roan would
go to the capon • of having 'lad done, .oth. shat woo patched
up, sod replaced In tho dip The firm imported at tin Woe
that It wa• & mandal to sent • dip to ma with such • shalt—
that they would not like to go In Me, and thou even If she
✓eached Annica oho certainly would never come tack again.
flhe did reach the United &des, Ned ad out on her nturn
rrum but we. never &and of more—(hdr, tour)—and the
es .I'3o men were sacrificed in order to effect a saving of
115 in n "1-7,,mlh° todu Zihtb:xruv figuro., hoot he
had done so,• t'Ll found tharnn 1188 the number of lime
tort at ma woo 2.139 ; In 1801, 2811; In 1870. 3,411 : I. 1871,
2,106, or a total of 11,016 and an avenge of 1,764 deal&
—Ond. Intert—and In the MENA year, amordine to the b..'
authoritim that ha toad consulted, not ids than 1,000 line
had already been lost—(hear, heart The men who thus
—and he firmly believed that In lour-fifths of the moo.
lb.▪ t,ito oom.l woe miring te prenotible c susse—be
=:no dam M men .1.0, on • thoumnd oaraions, bad
land themselves for ther caliontry End their baronet
In wing life at the riot of their oern—(beee, howl The
Nome should reflect °onto sufferings—ofteo wont Um death
—nf the creen of th• waterlogged vowels that stave the
Atlautk at Usi. time of the year. Any old to', we. thought
good enough to put timber In. bemuse, coon what might, Au
amid not Onli, hoot poor Men hod been takes of
..11th vslool•

after 30 day. r shoir etarnxi.,Zard expoeure-- —to tbe—weather,
trier only food haring been the rhea dog; and In other cam
Imo had been lying without help for week, in the cabin with
broken DM ceneed by the timber reeking loom—(hear,
Mar). • lady had written to him wiring blot amen in this
norement, sod pathencally hoping that other lade might not,
r Mr own son had been. mat to ma to perish Is a rotten
reeel, while the "brew' shipowner eat complacently In his
Mrs, pew, and had by hie guinea. with on untroubled eon-
aciree—ilseir). • widow, writing to him, .014 .4. wee
Imply Ming whet a number of other widow. could do. Iwo
yew wo leer husband went to Join • eplendld Meer r, end 37
of the crww west Into eternity along with him. She further
mid that the loser Mends could be mom readily subenatted
to ',b anae= namable bad been done to lam them, but
had teed men to go to ma in rotten neneels,
and
ery winter great number. of men found a watery grave•
and re hoped Um Inter* wh'eh bad been excited word uot
enbeide—(bear, hear} Before the oommimion reported, how-
ever, It was nerawary that the Home should take action ; and
accordingly 11411 wae berg carefUllY prePlund to Put • check
on th, homicidal meek* of ormioading, deck•loading, and
outflistif merle to ma in on ureaworthy condition.
Wr J. PAIIINOTON MlCOnded the motion, and entreated the
Goremanent to concede the inquiry In the rape which would
be room recta', The national chaznctec Wee insult's,' in It,
end the .peestlon at lame in far abets nem personal charge..
belic,ral ;crud 14.1 roma trots overluadlog. A rip of ISO
to, mied 10 December from Woe f e New °thaws laden
• Ith 7to Loos a (iron though the Admiralty role woe oo trerel
should oarry more than had • ton of dead weight to each ton
of her register, What happened? Just rat shier love bus.
=7l'dT tom h. rip In Falmouth, lerthlgde Dennnrani•
lte Mikd again on the net Jemmy= BM" 4th
February , inn rye afterwards, the MM. He wee
hippy to add , however, that
Another emearing 1111111111
so=
en • w. her some tree
ships win badly balk ao that lehey add= Illset. Oa the
141 February on melody avie dip old en Ye SIM royale

from this country 10 Bombay with a cargo Of etela. mad on the
led of Febrosry she want down One white ouiftt to bare
been a very In. shin of MOO tom, bound to the lbst ladies
with puesngers and cargo. got as far 11. Poregenuth, but there
the we. found to be strained and Injured by to. voyage that
she we. obliged to put in, and her paseengere were tramlerred
to soother rowel. These f.ct• ought to be explained. Awake"
fruitful muse of these terrible ale/Mlbe mom from the habit
of overloading the timber ships which carried on the timber
trade with America Such vemels were often piled an with
wood to each an extent that if bed weather cum on they
could not be properly navigated.
Mr. CLAY propwed in am mdenent. that It wee desirable
that • hill be forthwith introduced by the Government for
the purpose of constituting • commiselon to Inquire upon oath
awl report.
Yr. flame t 'wended this amendmrnt. Ho admitted that
tbe low of *omit was awful, that In fact we fret year by
year as many as they built, but that low a• • general rale
arose from over-loading, not 1/00011WOrtiliMINI, sod overloading
meth* remit of oninctitlon. A scrupulous 0.13er out Into
hi. .hip the amount of cargo that he thought the could carry
safely, whild the unscrupulous owner, baring got to amount
of !mummy that would mecum him, put In 100 tom non,
the whole freight on which eras 'bathes profit If the .hip
floated, and If not, why then he put the IMMO= money
into his pocket -(hear. hear} lie recollected that about the
end of the Crimean War • shipowner. applied to two builder.
to fire him an estimate for • VONA whkh one of them
offered to build for 4.14,000, and the other for £ll.OOO The
work was given to the losrest. Tbe Crimean • s., linrobod
suddenly, .ed so be could not get a charter from the govern-
ment as he had expected. he was conseelled to put his dile it
• verrlow freight on gravies to. foreign port. The .hip had
not long left the idiom when .ho went upon some mod end
corn tumbled all to Imes and we. heard of no more. The
other dilphoilder raid to the owner, " You had better have
bad my ship." "Oh. no," was the reply, .• 111 hail It would
never Imo goo to pieces, end now I have trot the 1m0..0e
at dam better off"-(bear, hear.) That was what be wanted
the home to take Into +co lint--thear, bear).
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lir, C. FOlTlertlt, on In he I of the Gorernment, believed
that thing* were not quite.. bad in the !Percentile mirth. an
Mr. Plitt".ll Immined, and that it tree itoreientile to minims
that unmaworthi r waa the mute of anything like the
number of erred!. and canualt;cv which took plane. Reverting
to tie orleinal moth it, Mr. P..rtencue objected to WI
aa vague and ambiguous, and auggeoted that the better course
would be to widen apt define the order of referee..,.. that
the menial...ion shout I ho empowered to Inquire into the
condition of the mercantile marine. m far aa regarded the
overloadlog of remote. the umeeworthinmeol remote. whether
owing to defective conetroctton. condition. equipment. or
!rower., dead...dine. under-manning. need the present
armee. of marine Ineuraeor. an. to report whether any and
what moteuree should te adopted for Um purpoue t f remedying
any relic that might be found to exist. As the Government
were wilting to take upon Ibcm. the reeponethMty of
owning out tide maggeotlon. he reawaranded that the inoUcm
sod the •menittnent.ehouid both he withdrawn.

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Mr Herrnick advised Mr. Plimsoll to draw up his owe order
ot rt 'create. so as to present the inquiry being • sham. He
lodated Ula 4 most 04th. collisions that took place at sea might
he averted y the adoptioe ist • good code ot rule. ot the road
at Nib

glr J. Ilar. Sir 8. Normore, and Sir it BalArll.ll4lTlloll
careered their preference lor •n inquiry upnn cash
Yr iternamra urged that he eakstlng law was rogieent.
Mr 13 Damn malted to hire a complete 1.1 thorough
Investigation.
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hr. A. Pau said that the whole scope of their endeavours
should be to es ablish such an inquiry u would ha full.
searching, an minoto into rill the circumstance* of the cove.
If the necrosPy should *rim, the Government would b. willing
to invest the commissionen with the power of cancelling the
attendance of winsome. and extenlning-them on oath.
Sir J. lartneirrome hollered the Inquire ROUld ta to put an
end to. glut many of the obsolete ships which were navi-
gated upon the existing principle of insurance, and .blob
were Indeed only St for firewood.
Both motion and atesendusent were withdrawn, end the
Oosennhent motion adopted
Werieuver —Mr. Itaeueone mord the second eliding of the
Municipal Officer. Buporstmustion Bill.
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After wmve discussion the reading was carried by 101 to 44.
Ditovvis snoved the second reeding of Ilse Belem
Fisheries 8111, and after a short discussion the Bill was read.
second UM*.

ttnrtu brought In Bill tor the adoption cd a
system of metric weights and measoree