The Stourbridge Observer, Cradley Heath, Halesowen & District Chronicle.
Stourbridge, West Midlands, England, 1873-06-07 00:00:00

THE TICHBORNE MAL.

broceedings in fiats trial ware resumed on Wed-
nesday morning (the thirtieth day), and notwith-
standing the tin-nee,, and heat of the weather the
court wee again crowdei I.
R..bert Humphrey., who was gardener at Stonyhurst
College for many year., was next examined by Mr. Serjeaut
Parry. The witness said I first became a servant at the
seminary In September, 1840 When I went into the
service of the college, I hail charge .4 the philosophers'
rooms. When I went there were about 1•2 philosophers, but
1 never knew the number larger than 10 I was servant of
all work to the philosophern The seminary was called in
my time It Mary's Hall. The philosophers remained till
October, ".34, 1840, and then returned to the college. I 11.
mender Mr. Roger Tichborne perfectly well. Ile was away
for a vacation in September: but he joined In October. I
knew him from that time till he finally left the college. Ile
went away about the end of July, or the beginning of
Anaust, 1848. and I never saw him there again. I knew him
Intimately, and was In the habit of Attenoing en him from
day to day. When I we. there they used to rise at six.
risme were morning prayers and mass at half past six.
Breakfrst was at eight There was hutch at hall-pant
one, dinner at live, And tea at eight in the evening
TheJ routine lasted all the time I was there, and all the time
Roger was there. The philosophers were not In the habit of
dining At one, or b. tween one and half-pant ono while I woe
Mere. Among the students then at the college were Mr.
Swluburne Berkeley. Mr. William Seam.. Mr. JOhn Rerkeiey,
who 'Oct there, Lord Bellew, Mr. Lafontaine, and Mr. loe
Rraieour. There were two Mr. Latontaines, who were blacks.
There wee Mr. Manuock, Mr. Sweennenta. and Mr. Knight. I
remember Mr. Waterton being a student there. and his tang
known by the name of " Long Toni " Roger Tlchborne
occupied the room Ho. 3, la the first gallery. That wee his
root. all the time if, had it to his own use. Each philoso-
pher hail a impetrate room. they never slept in a dormitory
to the number of iS or 20. There sere ilevee SO or fit) philoso-
phers there at a time Mr. sneer lived next to him ou one
site, and Mr John Berkeley, who died On the other. There
was a common I.OOM, the re!eetory, where they trot their
muds. Mr. John Berkeley OCcllpled the room No 4 Ile
was well known. and WM very ponular. He died lit the
beginning of January, 1847. Ilia death was very sudden and
create" a great sensotion in college I have never forgotten
it. Ilia fellow atudents used to attoot upon him In his ill-
ness. I have seen !Inger among them
NI r J natio) Lush.: Was be hurled there?

\% itnets : , hie bady was taken away by Ids friends. I
remember It leaving the ..,..11ege. 111. too ymu taken to the
inflrin..ry and opened, and V.eu ennetyed to the family
vault. All these facts were known at the time to ;la the
students. .

Rumination continued The number of rooms set apart
for philosophers might be made up for 9•2, but I never re-
member their being m re than le philosophers. lam quite sure
of that. Father Wellesley was the rector of the coliege, and
Father AUTUner was the superior of the se mlnary. 1 he superior
of the philoaophem was Father Browribill Fathers Sumner
and Rigoy were also at times superiors of the philosophers.
I remember also a Father ecarroll, who was there before
Father Waidilley. I remember a Father Morris Maim I
tblek he tea. a professor of Latin, and that he was there for
about twelve months. I remember a Father M'Cann. Dar-
te the time that Roger Tichboroe was there all the names I
have mentioned were there also, and Roger hichborne knew
theta I wee a Isyn Cu. Teem e were lay brothers. I re-
member Thonew Ashton, ilemes Gray, Timothy bile, John
Hough. and John Cope 'tote brethren resided in the
seminary I remember Father E,herlilge, muter of the
divines. The divines were preparleg for the Church. I
don't remember any clue at Stoeyherst called the laity
" leillosophers" and "dimes" were what I kuew. hen
there were the boy. at the college. I meet know how many
were there. I don't know much about the College;
was at the seminary. Thera were two Wealth's
there. Father arCenn wee a priest, who had mast arrived
from Calcutta John Weiser was the nephew of the priest,
and he taught, and was the prefect of the philosophers, I re-
memM r John Weems teal/leg. He left very suddenly, ebout
the >tar 1647. Roger hellholee knew him very well, Roger
Tichborne knew the lay brothers very well. I should con-
sider that he knew the fathers sail the teachers very well. I
never knew Roger Tichborne to be at the Infirmary. I don't
remember his havine any glorious illness whilst 1 was
there. I remember that the ghat game of the philosophers
was called " handy." The game was played with a hall,
which was amuck with crooked Aides instead of being
kicked. The halls were made of leather, and stuffed with
hay. The halls were about the size of a small foot-ball.
They played " hockey " on the ice. They played with a
different kind of stick and a small hand ball. Roger Tich-
borne used to phi, at bandy very much. He was a mat
player inuring the whole of the time 1 was there. Ile played
with his friends—fellow pupils—whom I have me-mined.
Some el the philosophers said Roger was a "very good," and
I coualde reel that he was a first rate plamr. Bandy wu
played during the winter mouths. huger Tlehborne learned
to play the French born. I have seen and heard him
play on the French horn. I should say about two or three
times a week. I remember a musical association, Messrs.
Knight, he Brasseur, Lafontaine, and. It iger were members.
They met two or three times a week for practice. I
had charge of the room In which they met. Smoking
was not allowed at the seminary during the time of study,
but it was allowed dere% the time of recreation. I
remember that Roger Tiehborne smoked a great deal I re-
member a place br the grounds crated the 'due.' where the
hot air cams from. It was a small arched place, covered
our with ivy. I Lave seen Roger Tiv•kb,rne go there to
iffneke by himself the first thing in the mornleg Father
Brownbill put an evil to it I remember a small cabin about
eighty yards from the house, coneea ed by trees, where Roger
steed to go to awoke That did not last except for a few
weeks, when Father Rigby found It mit, and mil red it to be
deetroyed. I helped to desire>, it. I remember a peach
hedge, which was cut down to prevent Roger Tichbonte con-
cealing himself whilst smoking ce the other aide. When
Roger Ttchborne came there he spice very bad Eng-
lish. He altered very little during the time that he was
there. Rogers English was a very broken En OWL I don't
see 'the slightest" to Alter Tiehborne in the defendant.
_pie slightest what?.-The slighteet feature to Roger
. . . . 11.". .

According to your judgment he Is not Roger Tichborne ?
stager Tichborne 3as a very narrow-chested man. Ile was
very thin. I firsl saw tle defendant In IS:, during the
late trial I saw him at he other court during the crow
examination.
11r. Serieant Parry: lien it could not have been In 1869
Witness I was in court two days. I had an opportunity
of thoroughly observing dm. I saw him on two separate
§gcrtselr h
ol .haraii
delterneuirnn:biserantLtrieerr :Ichg-
olhisce of
the
1111','S5IVI'at :Mt of a voice did you consider the defendants to
be I—Well, I considered that he spots very good English.
But I mean with respect to sound 7-1 did not notice the
sound to describe it. In my own mind lam perfectly satis-
fied that he Is net the man.
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fross-examhed by Dr. Kenealy : I went to Stonyhurst on
the 111th of November, 1546, and on the tllth of October, 1548,
when the philosophers left I was sent Into the gardens.
Brom '4d to 45 I was attaining on the philosophers ass man-
servant. Except to the lawyers who took down my evidence,
I have never spoken to any one about this matter. I have
never been spoken to about it by any of the Jesuit fathers.
I had a letter from ilowls,er which recalled my attention first
to the matter, and then a kwyer from Liverpool, named
Welsh, came to me at Stonyhuret. There Is an office at
Stonyburst where the books are kept. There Is a secretary
called the 'procurator.' I left Stonyburet thin day week.
The prom/rotor was then father Pentuneton.
By the Lord Chief Justice: The ottice of procurator to
filled by the fathers in rotation.
The Lord Cale! Justice : You will hardly be able ta get at
the name of procurators it Roger Itch ortte4 time.
D. lienealy : No, my lord : but If there are books, surely
they should be put in.
Ile Lord Chief Justice: Well, we shall see.

in:.'lenealy (to alums) : You rernember the r mma where
the philosophers lived—fa which room chi LrlTttoo Ilre
(Great laughter )
Mr. Hawkins: I ruppose yon meant that. (Laughtar.)
Dr. Kruealy (who, face h.-floated much aatoulahmout):
Whet have I aid that le .0 buoy? (Laughter
. .

The lead (nig Justice I suppose yon meant Lord 13elleW
—but you said L aid Tattoo. ifteuested laughter..
Dr Reneally t lam sure I beg his lordship's pardon. (To
erttnese): Where did Lord Bellew lir:
Wltaeu • Mr. Bellew lived la the imminent, at No. a
There was nay one cottage near the mill whi e I was there
I have been in that cottage. A gardener, named Richard
Eltosilale, lived there. Snore wets another cottage near the
Infirmary, where the music master lived. In going up 'the
Avenue " the first was on the right, and the second to the
left There was no other cottage attached to the seminary,
except the college lodge. There were about four cottages
at about two minutes walk from the eerninary. They were
occnoled by tsrot isb arers. The names of two were Holden
and A),rtt, ahci 1 do not remenier the names of the otLrrs.
I should say there Was never any other cottage excert the
ail I have mentioned ant the lodge. Them labourere' c. t)
taw had each a .Itting-room and kitchen below, and two
small he rooms. In the gardeners' lodge there were but
three rooms altogether, aid le, the other three small rooms
up stab, 'The /molted the music master was Beredord and it,
tan! t Roger tlte French horn. Mr. Beresford died armut
1840. The music master who succeeded him was named
Shepheri but I Oro not remember anything about Ida, 4-
o:opt that he an, there hut a very abort time. I do not
remember the names of any other music masters. I recollect
two 'rising masters named Hill and Fanner. I do not
rememoer one named Gotland, or one with a wooden leg,
The head of the philowiphers was Father Browtabill. He
would know all about the dates. Roger left at the end of
July or begb.ning of August, 1848. I did Oct hear what
Lady Doughty stated in her evidence, bat I do not remember
that be came back In October, even for a few rhos. Father
O'Carroll was head of the philosopher. before Father Brawn-
bill, and Father Rigby then came—that was the sequence.
I do not remember the name of Father al cutace Mann as
heat of the philosopher.. Mr. Mann was the prefect, and
went out walking with them there was a well-recognised
division between those studying for the Cnurch, who were
called" divine.," and the Mlle rs. In 1047 there were abut
ten ' divines i" amongst them I remember the names of
Carla ell, aleyrick, Tickle, l'ilathorne, Howard, Clifford,
and aberlock. I do not remember any others The
divines stayed about two mouths only. Father Etheridge
waa then master. Father al'eann was not prefect
Or two years. The i raect had Closed a,nnection
with the philosopher.. idea not remember anything about
the game of cricket. I remember the play-ground. The
play-ground then rem; in the same place as it ts now. There
the students generally played foot-bail. The philosophers
did not jeln at football with the student.. There was a
gravel walk where they piped '' bandy." I cannot tell what
boned. the play-gronnd °lithe right. I do not remember any
diderence brtween the playgronori now and at that time.
Flowera used to gro w against the college walls. They belong to
the preleners that lived in the college. I used to see the
students play " bandy." They height smoke to the time of re-
creation ; and they used to smoke very each. Ido not re-
member the '4. oh Club.' the flue was about ten 'arils fr.im
the corner of the n minary. ACCIA3 to the flue was
gained lay a small ladder. The place sue used for a
smoking re cm for a few weeks. Then the ladder was put
away, and they were forbidden to go there. 1 never saw
imp.° smoking there with Roger. The caleiu wan puc up
by some of the philosophers. t know Cittheroe. I don t
remember any plantation there. I don't remember that they
need to stroll to CI itheroe to smoke. I have no recollection
011 k. sound of the voice of Roger Tichborne. Ills heft, ht
was about live feet seven Inches. When he want away lie
was about sixteen or seventeen. His hair was of a dark
brown colour. Ile sea, a very /denier, narrow.chested
young man. I don't remember the colour of his eyes. I
lid not know any edit r member of the family.
Sir. Edward Waterton, examined by Mr Hawkins I am
now resident in Brussels. I am a magistrate and deputy-
lieutenant of the West Riding of Yorkshire. I wag educated
at Stony hunt. About eight e ays after I went I received the
nickname of "Long Tom," and it stuck to me while I re-
mained at the school. I went to the college in Stptenher-
-1041 I became a philosopher in July, 1418, and I
finally left In March or April, 1850. I remember
Roger Tichborne coming to Stonyhurst. My uncle,
Father William Waterton, became prefect of the
philosophers about Elder, 1815. I met my uncle
taking itoger Tichborne oni his father round the old
dancing gallery. My uncle Introduced me to them.
walked with them is short 41140.13C0, and toes left.
was then In the syntax clam Roger joined the
philogoaleam. They were then quartered In apartment.
ratite the playgrueuel. Afterwards they went to St. Maly'.
"ago vhleh had previously been calla I the eeminary, I liii
not often speak to itog,er, hut I raw him at least once a
week. He was middle-Heed, thin, with small features, thil
straight hair. I had onoe a good opportunity of mein( the
defenda.:t :o as to form a judgment about him.
lu your judgment Is ho Roger fichhorne ?—lie Is not the
Roger Tichborne I knes..
The witness was examined at lengthen to the names of the
philosopher., prefects, masters, and either officials 4 the
golleie, and also as to the course of study pursued by the
philosophers. Da :aid the latter did pretty much as they
liked. adding "I waa a philosopher a year cud a half, and I
did precious little." (Laughter)
Far Lard Chief Justice ; What were they prepared to
taco, if a nebular ass (livened to learn I—Oh. omitting
There were any amount of professor.. (Laughter.) Latin
wag aught, afill if a than wanted Greek, he could have It.
(Laughter;
To Mr. Jodie* Mellor I can't say whether If a scholar
scented Hebrew. he could have it
. .

Examination continued : The philosophers played at
bandy wt.h.h to my mind waa a stupid game It was cum-
polaory that the phll,sopti,rs should attend the lectures on
htsk+ry but not the the other leetnres. I perfectly
kit
lumber the pracidoe of smoking. Nth.n it wag for-
den, Of frame ever 7 ono sm4ed; bat 09 lesn
given Lb 'Woks, IS owed. (Lwlghtit.) I Mal

tact the performance of plays at Christmas. The 1
pieces were always expurgated hefore they were produced, I
and in mato cases they would not have been recognis-d by an
outsider. Me ft male character, were not admissible, and
they were changed into uncles or something of that kind.
(Laugh, er ) The plan were alwaym produced in MS. Ire-
member the " Castle of Andalusia" being played from this
mrcumstence— that Mammal it on his .• trunks " the
wrong way. (Laualiter.) I. For” aft " I mean. (Laualiter )
The Lord ChLfJustice I see he took the part of a Spanish
nobleman. (Laughter)
Esamtnatlon continue]: Ifts never found out his mistake
during the performance. No one was kind moush to tell
him of it. (Laughter.) I don't recollect Roger playing in
the piece, but no doubt he did play.
The Lord Chief Justice ; Ind you have any put Y—Well,
nit lord. I need to fill up sometimes. (Laughter )
Examination continued .-4 remember lather Said well.
I think he was master of rhetoric I[ll 1813 44, and
afterwsrds a prefect of attunes in 1547-48. I remem-
ber the death of John Berkeley well, lt occurred
during the Christmas holldet a, and everything won
immediately suspended as regarded the production of the
playa. I think he died shout the Christmas of 1846. Each
phinsopher had a aeparate room, and slept by himself; anl
the preiect had to go round at ten o'clock at night tosce
that a I the lights were out. Hodder wa.s a mite
off, ,tuo itJrth.east. roe could scaarcely see It until
you arrived at the place. It Is separated from the
eatablishnient by the high-road and fields. I left Stony-
burst in Ion), and RP tin WI it was my privilege to spend
four or five days there for four or five times a year. Since
1,61. It is my own fault I have not boon thure. In 1866 I
west there fur JIM day. I keep up my actmalutance with the
reverend fathers. lam still interested iii Stonyhurst. My
father has presented naturalist specimens to the museum
at Stonyhurat I have heard from the philosophers
I that ft ger used to stud birds. I remember Roger
coming to Stonyhuest. ylls uncle Introduced tuo to him,
and to his father Sir James llchh Intr. I only saw him for
half a minute. I could not describe hint personally. I could
not tell you to a day when I next saw Roger The last time
I saw Roger was at the Caledonian Bali It. 1553.
'rho Lord Chief Jostled In 1853 Roger left England t
Witness : It was the nrst season 1 hail in London. It was
the yew after 1 came of age. At Stonyhurst t have never
been in conversation with Roger more than nye minutes on
shy OCCIUIIOII.

Matthew Hoyle Williams, exandeed by Mr. Serleant
I' irry: My father is a librarian at Cheltenham. I was at
Stony hurt. I went there in Octoaer, 1,442, and left In
August, lsl9 I knew the philosophers durli.g my Mine. I
knew Roger Tlchbortie. I cannot state the year. but ho
came very ahortly before one of the chief holidays of the
year. I don't remember Ida leaving. Ile was at that time
slight. rather dark hair, and delicate looking, lie spoke
broken Encliah with a French accent. I knew Roger Tlch-
Imrne and spoke to bin, from time to time. I remember the
names of other philosophers who were there of the thue
(Witness gave names ) I remember Ihenlrtc4 eatertainments
being given every Christian holiday. I have no Independent
memory of Roger Tichborue, but his name Is down
In the playbill (produced) for one of the charac.
ten. The letters npon It, " A.M.G." and " L.D.5.,"
were upon all the college egandnation and other papers.
The de'endarit who sits there i. not like the Itlger
Tiehborne I knew. The opinion I have formed Is that he
is not. I was present at the nisi Tutus trial, and heard bins
cross-examined as so Stonyhurst---Its localities, anti the
persons and habits of the students. From that I feel no
doubt that he is not Roger Tichborne. Hebrew was err-
tab.'s not taught to the students, and I believe not to the
philosophers.
Cro,s-examined I will not swear to any particular occa-
sion on which I spoke to Roger Tlchli roe for the minutes,
but I have no doubt I have. the scholars were not allowed
to go out of their own bounds, nut the philosophers used to
come amongst us to Vey toothed. I have furnished
information to Mr. Bowker with respect to Sto-yhurst,
and els about anon who Ind lived at Robert Town. Mr.
!Marker first came to me. I have not furnished much tutor-
motion. The playbill produced has a date on
It in my handwriting. It was a copy I sent at the
time to my brother. I have a good many other play
hills and examination pipers which I have preserved.
I loft Stonyleurst In 1019. having been there seven sears. I
once knew Latin very well. I never heard the letters L. S. D.
'toted to mean LOW Pro anti. as well as Lamy De., tierayer.
I have received no money or promise of any kind.
Re-examined by Idr. Serieseet Barry I frequently saw
Roger Tichborne, once in a for alight at the outside.
By the Bench: The vacation began In August and went
Into September, but we generally spun It out till October.
Nobody left the college at Chris.maa, or at Easter, or at
Whitsuntide.

Ann S'andlah (examined by Mr. Hawkins . add—l am
the matron of the Infirmary at Sionyhunt. I have been
there 28 yt ars. I remember Mr. Roger Tichborne being a
philos pier at the seminary, but I dot not know him person-
ally. I don't remember his being 111. Ile was never at the
Infirmary under my charge, and I do not know that he was
In the kftrrnary at all. 1 never heard of his being ill. I
knew Mr. Pinder. He was the doctor, lie is dead. Dr.
Nonni need to come occasionally. He is dead too.
" "

Cross examined by Dr. Kenealy There was a list kept of
the young gentlemen in the infirmary. There was *doctor'.
book It would be made away with as aate paper. There
was a periodical burning or books relating to persona
In the Infirmary A record Is kept of the time or
the stay of p•tiente. There might be four or five
hooka, which were burned. I cannot say when the last was
burned It is not ten years since. I burn the books when
they are full, of my own accord. I cannot tell how many
young gentlemen are ill in the course of the year, probably
there would he floor 40 . .

By Mr. Justice Mellor The doctor used to melte the
entries to the took.
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.....
Cross-examination resumed : I used sometimes to make
entries of in, own, hut they were destroyed.
By the Lord chief Justine: The dontr used to Enter the
name of the patient. and the particular complaint under
which he suffsred.
. . .

Re-examined by Mr. Hawkins : I do mit remember whe-
ther one of the priests was a ,:octor. Roger Tichborne was
never in hen in the Infirmary as a patient under my charge.
At ten minutes to five the Court again adjourned.