The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
Dorchester, Dorset, England, 1872-03-26 00:00:00

Batter be &Atop
Tata piouth deep."
Bat I have lived long enough to see whet poor Richard
"trees la coned :

" Plough deep while Pincer& sleep,
Aod you shall hare corn to KU and to keep."

At the present time Mr. Whicher, of Avon, plough' his
land seven inches deep for wheat, the manure b.-ing
palled out severol week. before tr grow Into the 1 md.
The sheepfoli does • gee, t &el of harm during the
rummer months, as this land grows nothing but weeds
after. To return to the cleaning of the lead, we found
the Flolepton's harrow • eery good implement. It
would not do to drew it too mach when it was /3 very
loom, as the conch would work in instead of out of the
Lied. We never wan:el anything to consolidate the
wheat land, se the rain in winter would get It firm
enough. There being • sea of crest formed over the
soil in the spring, hoeing worked wonders, but it was
then an expensive operation. There is now such •
great improvement in the hone hoes, an old neighbour
of mine told toe that Indeed of paying 41. or 51. per
bare, ge he used to do, he Gould now do 15 101V1 per
day with two old hack honer. This, we must ell admit,
con be done at a very trifling expense. Where the
land Ls hilly it stands at • great disadvantage for
hoeing, as the lower past will go so deep end the upper
barely touch. I moonset when bone' were first used la
the neighbourhood. We had no drill, but sowed them
out of a mottle, sowing them on every other ridge.
The remit eras very marked. Now for tire strong land.
The bast mineral I ever found for that was marl. It is,
I sort of clay dug in the New Forest from the very
poorest soil I know. We used to put It on the lend in
the autumn so that the frost may sleek It. When it is
them pulverised it can ho much more evenly distributed
and it. action is more beneficial. Wo put oci from 20
to 25 tons per asre. The crops told of its epplication
for more than 20 years. The cropping on the etrong
lend wee much the same as on the light lend, only •
summer fellow Waled of turnips. Now, renticmen,
you mast excuse rue for being such an el f-faehloned
fellow sits think that • good deep follow phughed at
heat four times in the remm,r will, oo the avenge of
seasons, grow abetter prow of wheat thou alter turnips.
;Bog anitbiag Om.. nnt4 to think it intinktel Übe
til •of the fallow laud very mush if the wheat, to.
being hewn or mown was reaped very high, ea
It would make it work so very mellow. With the reap.
ing.machlnes you can brave the stabole six inches high,
bet I have found Lf you go very much higher the sheaf
will not be thrown out so evenly. Now for the meadow
laud. The river Avon rises above Sellsbury, end from
Fordingbridge to Christehrersh, 15 miles, the meadow'
are very poor, so much so that the steak fed on the hay
become oovered,with Hoe. The rivers Avon end Stour
join just below Christchurch; about one and ehalf
miles before they empty themselves Into the sea. Now
this poorness of the land watered by the Avon I
attribute to that stream rising, or being fed, (rain heath
land; end the• very strange thing that when the
lhour Is from over on the top enough to bear • men
on horseback, the Avon is not frozen on the top but at
the bottom, and the lee Is jusfabout the same Warless
es the toe on the Stout; and when there Is a thaw it
will brook up exectly at the same time as the other.
It has often mulled Me to know the maw. Now the
river Stone. which you all know runt glom to Bland-
ford, has very mach better meatows from there tr '
Christehtunb than from S.lishury to Christchurch, the
latter being watered by the Avon. Even the fisb find
the different," in the water' of these rivers. 8 enetimes
In • high tide from the see tbe Jeek wi I be killed two
miles up the Stour, but not in the Aeon. The eel. are
muck better eating from the Avon than from the Stour.
I have heard that, meal years sea, the salmon were so
plentiful in the river Avon that one stipulation made
by the lebourers with the farmers whoa they entered ,
swim wee that they should not have red fish oftener
thee twkw a week. And I believe that they woell be
but as plentiful now if they would do away with the
earn mills. I have seen the salmon speweing. They move
the small stone" with their noses end tails until one fish
will sometimes get an seenmuletion of two or three carts-
loads In one heap under which the spawn is burled. These
mills prevent the minion from going up to strewn, and
the eel Magee /etch the small °nesse they journey down
to the ma. When Sir Walter Tyrrel shot Rehm in the
New Forest, In hie fright he made his escape over the
farm new held by Mr. M. Bone, and afterwards over
the river Avon. From that hum it hoe beet celled
Tyrrers Feed, amid a line of a few shilliap was isflioted
by thistle:owe on all who may hold that part of the
river. Ima aware that this he a digression from my
sable* but I theeght the meteor letereetlag sad it may
be sew to WM" el you. Asregazdatbesoilaadtillage
In Dorset It he, wham bed for me to leave It in your
bands as you know as much, end probably more about
It Uwe Ido myself. But one thing is indispensable to
good tillage, and that I. to have the best and moot Im-
proved implement'. We never hoer anything about
the Bentall now since Bartlett, of Wimborue, hes
brought out a better, and at the same time • lighter
Implement. There is another implement in this
neighbourhood for pulverising the aoll. I eanuot think
bow Amy farmer ean be without it—this is what! term
the rubber. II It cost es many pound. an it does
shelling.; in feet, if it was dear bought and far-fetched,
every one would have it. There are so many other
Implements that It is difficult to tall which is the beet;
but, in my opinion, if you wish to move the lend
effectually there is nothing like the plough. I think If
you whit to save yourself e deal of trouble and labour
In amnia( year fellows tor turnips, you must not be in
too greats burry to drew it biter it is ploughed, nor to
=h it too quickly site, it is sonehed, as it is the
paiegLtz, which
again they grow not
motel tiad
e!
has home done. After the ebeinherrow the summon
harrow should be used, so that the ran may dry up the
comae before it is ploughed to otein. 1 him never
used the steam plough, but by what I have wee of It it
ought to be firmed out directly esker or it will grow
trunless le it very dry weather. Autumn mikes.
onials ell very well in fine weather, but alincet melon
In wet. As regards breaking of stubble., if your I.nd
Is ever eo alma, I should iodides a rafter as it makes
the land so muck mon mellow the following summer,
sanseguantle better for any roots you may think proper
to put in. The ithotob system l• In favour with some
in this county; but I am of opinion that from six
o'clock till two horses, if they are property kei t at
work, will dos very good day's work, and if you keep
them more than eight hours at work it le the horse-
dealer who reaps the benefit and not you. Gentlemen,
I must apologies for having been rather wide g..f my
subject at times, but! trust it has not made It the IC,
Interesting, and that it will lead to a more extended
dienusion.
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—The elanufAig having invited diseassion,
Mr. J. A. MUM said be must say he thought the
subjoin was rather silisitad ooe, but Mr. Groves bad
thrown the Geld pretty wide opeo, quits enoug to
bring about a good d musolon. Kr. Groves had
good deal of experience both in Hutto and Dorset,
and be (Mr. Daum) perfectly agreed with moot et his
observations; he knew, however, but little of fanning
In Hampshire, but had no doubt on light land it was
pettedly tight not to knook It about too innalt. They
lamer that with the sandy ,land In this county if they
besotted it about too much after gutting hay, they
would be Nue not to get good wheat. it wittrmi more
staple, by folding @beep on it, sod laying on all the
duo( poeribla. With reaped to implements he could
sot epee with Mr. Groves that they should el u.ye
move the eased. He had lived long enough to finds
mos essay of the old implemonta were again amok(
foto use ; and tor lib own pail., Ise Lad adopted the
Div inspleseents tor some years, but WU now goiter b.O It
to gjae old Dorset drag and the old wood harrow as the
heti ter warbled the lead tor all purpose., It was
tree the dew borrows wens air lie masts sad left •
be.uutni turbos, but they did sot work the soli nits
N mush as be whhed. H.,51 rather surpolsnito
end at tho eats of the Me Illr. Futpolialsou's farads.
telplaseste that the hootchesan bore oat Ws opiate.,
tor he had all the old-fashioned drags and hilefOWS.
6.1 poops bomb then oredit for monies' tips
farm veil in that district.
Mr, MAW eald the deladdalimiglert us araisle laad ,
vas Way IA sad II be 111014 11, tad knew I

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bow to keep p, h. ...mild like to summer fallow 1
nearly ell his lead for 'horst, end he rhould also Ilk. !
to age • fair ptomains of Pm.. Ho thought that
linar on their strong bills was n very valuallo marute—
it wawa a puivelieer. For B,x or ,ight pars he woad
ten where he had reed bano. Two years ego are tel a
very dry cumin -a., the oonscquation wee seeds were m?
bad Indeol lathe epring.and that year (early In 187))1 be
limed a piece of 4rotig lend of about % awes fin. barley.
He ploughed in the Luse, an I riwe I the nod..?
. .na
Cass seeds. Ile had no yaw weds worth putting •
hurdle upon sitarist on that rdene, and there he had a
very fair vi lit, got a good woo of bay kat 111111111,on.
and trod it for seed after. Ile Gould ooly seta iboar,
the result to the lime He applied about 40 sacks per
aere. As regarded the miumagemeat of land, or their
Mlle the harvest WY so late thst it would be a diffteult
matter trade mush In the way of autumn ealtivetton
r soept they had mesons madn on purpose. In the
the autumn of 1870 they °nun do something, hot in
1871 noting it all-1n fact, worse than nothing a he
believed that those who attempted to do anything on
their hills towards cleaning the lined, helped wonder-
fully to make the °ouch grow. He qeile agreed with
Mr. Groves that rafting was the beet plan they eould
adept in is... were land was strong sod the harvest
into. The plan he adopted when ho had much couch
wee to raft GM of all, sod. before Chrletmu, if the
pouch was dry enough, to plough it in, then raft and
tarn it over again. leaving the lend to dry during the
winter, and in the spring the land could be worked •
fortnight or three weeks earlier. Ho thought no land
woull pay better for manure than in.'s land. Let
sheep be k, pt on corn land as moots as possible,
giving them plenty of artificial; but where there was
• large portion of grus lend he advocated the
using of good farm-yard manure. /ideating to the
piece of barley ground which he bad limed, he said
parbaps some people would like to know what crop he
bad of grain and stubble, as that summer was a dry
one. People might think that lime dried the lead too
mall, end that be did not have mush straw or eon;
bet he could mum them that the straw was more than
an average mope, end the barley was some of the best
quality on his farm.
Mr. SLY said the greater part of the land be had
under soil was infested with bogs, so that If be
attempted deep ploughing, the implement would gbh
to the bed of the cull! -(laughter). Barring the bem
which he aid In places ran down Ova or six test, 1111
found deep cultivation answer bat. He was b
some land into tillage, and burnt the top 6M :till
couch: in the night the wi .d blew some hot ashes to
a bank about two goal off, end It burnt the whole of It
let 20 or 30 perdu and foot feet dup into the greend—
' the peat soil, and he had to stop up the drains to put
It oat. Some of this teed wadi nee grow ettythige at
' all till he .baked It; and then he was told it would
, not bear turnips or mongol 1. He chalked six saes
, about 20 load per sore, and half an acre he 1•11 us-
, *aka thee, the differenee. He petit WO resameld,
; mil where there we. no chalk tie roots were the sloe
,' slimes tee) but on the Milked pert they
; wire ea b ro es his body —(laughter, and Mr.
t °Kress : 52 Inebesl)--and begot th*tri. an=
, the slob. Several of the roots were fee feet
' and be 000ld stand in one plus and pall ep • isimple
to weigh 2520 e. sub. When he eame behave Oils next
year. he shelled the net, and now it handled as well
as the other. For getting out wash he preferred
fettering. He had got some land under the woods, and
when he mowed swedes them he hued the [Minis and
here. would 410041 sad eat half the sop, so he was
obliged to alter his syMet—(langhter). He sow oared
Itreee,ted found the rabbit, and bums would sot touch
them- (hear, bear). Last year he sat six owes of beau
with • nmehine, and when they ems to the mikZ2 le
a space as big as Lb. room they were la, they SD
couple of rebate • reference to the water merlon
led Mr. Sly to spoilt of the From. and the salmis.
tie said It was not tbe mills that Injured the stream, as
he had mu figh prefer to go up the weirs when the
water was running very fast to the salmon ladder, but
great damage was done by draining the bog into the
atrerut He showed that his meadows whoa • gamily
iof bog water was allowed to fit, ever them. Meson
rated till they grew nothing bat • wiry rush, Mae
when It was kept off the gram returned, and that the
bog water killed even the l tel In the stream, and there-
fore must be highly prejulisial to young Mem. Be
believed that Ib, From, would soon boom • good
selsnou river if • drain were eat to early the boo water
to the see without mixing with the fresh water stream.
With regard t t dry mule's, he advocated using epos
them farmyard meagre, or any compost they could
Utile. lie found by this MIMI hie meadows on which
the buy year after year became thinner and worse, now
grew half as much again. Al to green land, he spoke
a the good results which followed his sowing lest TOW
ef some old broad clover seed on an sore of meadow
land. Upon this he wrote to Kum Sutton for some
of their renovating grass seeds for dry land. He had
sown it, end hoped It would do him good, end that hie
esp.-lento might be beneficial to his neighboun.
Mr. B. G. Run:au thanked Mr. Groves foe his
kiteresting luta" and geld that he knew nothing
eboot agriculture In Hawn but he did know • little
about it in Dorset. With Morena to ratamine for
touchy land some Iran of opinion that the best way
was to railer once, and roil, and then rafter arils i bat
he preferred to rater, dream fine, rafter across, dem
again, and plough d.ep, As to steam ealtivatiou, he
anew • little about it, and believed It was one of the
greatest htlps • termer could have In • dry mason. It
thoroughly stirred the soil, and kept the moisture In,
end by that mesas they could grow • good imp of
tundra.
Kr. CH Amur Samminsi said bows. SO6 Il very groat
advocate for mitering. Of emu his land differed •
good deal from that of the members who had spoken,
Mi. h I - r•rral pieurbiag tisane's). in deep and letting
it remain :4 rot. The farming of Hanka and Dona
differed yew, mesh. He thought that In ft...L:s:6ls,
of Hempetaire ahem throve mei bobber thenin.i
whether It was owing to the inmate be Gould not say.
Then again In Hkmshlre malign wee grown, which
troll not be done se weil in Doreen He qeite agreed
with Mr. Groves as to chalking lend. He thought It
possible that in land of • goody eaters the use of too
mash chalk would prove Inj orlon& Adverting to the
nee of implements; Mr, Saunders said he thought they
' ought to avail themselves of the best which goad be
Them were many plugs In wbioh the doable
plough might be need with advantage, but where It had
net been introdused. Os seamy farms the old weed
tickle answered much better than the new implements,
which simply went ever the surface, and did not give
deep Vino. He could not say meek about marling
land. If they soul] get rid of the heath water they
would be butter off without it than with it When
Bah did not thrive In • stream where heath WOW al.
charged Half, it showed there wee something la It they
did not like, nail be had,, doubt it was injurious be
vegetation as well. Spooking oaths subject of manures.
Mr. Baanders said the day was some whim it was the
dirty of agrionlatriste to grow a; mash as they .
could, and this Gould not be done unless they iha=
resort..; and he timed they mad act do Merle
than to ea those Mash had been well triad. He
believed the Maw wen come when manufacturers ought
to be required to give some guarantee of the neeneree
they sold, se then farmers would know what Me:am
*rink •
Kr. ate said that One of his oxen tit itu ettiaseer
time thank of the bog water, being amble to get tis aft
fresh stream, sod in it few boars it died.
Kr. Sal3llDuall sontiesed Is proof of his remeriethiti
Butte was mem fermatas to the growth of roan
than this money, that Ins had erms sheep at keep
tweet' Ringwood and Ohristelparels, and they had
feeding off Santa grown without a menet of
nure, yet they wore larger than anything he had got,
dbe bad not seen finer this year. They were poem
nothing but It fallow. In this pert of the matey
they were obliged tio use • good deal of manure.
Mr. Gnome was sorry the °lab had agreed with
lam so well, as they len itim but Mile go say. Prom
the remarks of Mr. Sly he vas reminded WS Mere
Mrs many thaw to keep • farmer's noes down to the ,
Meal. bat above all, the sags. was gene--
(epplasse arid Imighter). Vat ream to say KM
ay yaws ago, baths was pleased to es_y b• wee new
genders Lindland who wee my Morel la OM
peet., and allowed him the shooting of Wit& edam
--lerViallese). But be did not reel.ly know lbw we. 1
eaything in the world but what the • villsloons *lnge
I eel and be WY very Owed to And there was
nothing: He wished to ask Mr. Sly what sorb g ef
e he pleated—winter buns, spring bean vs
at teams I Forth, last tw• years he hid plaided
Wool beans npoo a small seals, sad had now imeeseill
tie mop to six um, He believed that • Meer ere}
scull be got from the broad Windsor beat than from
&ay other Mad. He mains agreed with Kr. Ileadlell la
rafting lead in Dorm twists and ploughing the emelt
io deep, believing that If the had wet strong them
melt out bs mush troutill with It afterwards. Their
chit. man bed seal UM manures ought Sobs gumeteal,
ant Le trite •greed with him. if farm& dubs had
done so other good they had done this—they hisi
Inought • better elms of manure into their neighbour-
hoe le Mee they bed got then analysed. Altrotigh
larger mops of sweats could be grown In Hampshire
tuan in Dora; he doubted very mash If the (pail
W. enything like so good. Of this bewever„ be wee
sure, that if they mid he grown without manure they
would be much better in quality. As • tribute to the
• • cl;mitte" of liana Kr. Groves mentioned that he had
a lot of sheep at Ranurood fair which he amid Doi sell
et al .inept et • miserable merinos, so he pet them
out to keep till the 6th of April at *bootee Sd. • bud,
cad a dealer who had bought them Kam gave him G'•
• bred more than he could asl et the fele and paid for
the ke-p es well ;so he spoke well ad the Hampshire
elimate—(langhter).
On the motion of Mr. J. A. Demi, sesoeded by Mr.
Clients eAummes, Mr. Groves we. thanked for Me
Pal's. inroads Kr. Gongs said it ellmeledigail
pleasure tt be with them, sob. tbeeebt fee a
members
of the differeat elute tended to •
hheinnmdeld'espfrienrdtlardreftengiveintotbelstheahliorpilthtelitiMmy adilsP;llM" . "4
in this district.
' • - n.' :- :h:n terminated.

WAREHAM.
Tux tradc.dinen hare issued printed notions abating
th .t their establishment. will he closed on limiter
!tondo.
Ciinacit PasioaeL AID Bociwrr.—The annual
,11 ting nt the Wareham branch of this armlets Irma
he:.l in the T,..n.ha1l on lienday 'e.g.,.
wee
very fairly attended. The Rev. R. B. °noel was In the
thalr. two. Regloald Smith represented the
society, and woe supported by the Rev. O. pi.ehid
pbhm Tbo Ray. S. It. °ape stded last year the,.
was little more than £4 collected by ,übii, The
collection at the ban amounted eat,
whilst Ed lls, id. wan contributed at the Amok With
regard to the last feature they ociLlsolsd 14, 61 as
Beuday; so they bad begun Fatim, bettor this year.
The Rey. Reginald Smith spoke of Slut urgent needraw
prevails in large towns far the *reredos' of the sedety.
Tbe Ray. R. P. ?bins gave an laterestl3 awastutt of
his a:periesge' when • male at the mole at Bristol.
The Reeler added • few hearty words, the
closed.
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perrT session, Tueolay.-13ofees the Wit Ms.
Earl of Hideo Captain J. W. T. Fyler,
Colossi O. P. kiessibaLl. Bond, En., Helots, Chem:
Bond,Seq.. and W. reti. !sq.
Jesus Heeler, Os oldest_ Jana Hector, maw,
hese LigAl, and Minos alla 106 14Als eon nu-
moon by P.C. Freon Symms tor being drank see
Sans at Mantes in lits.loth int. They win heed
Mc, Isoludise cools
itideod Deny mid Marks Marcia were suamoo•ii
by QuipL.,somshispe to tbs Eon Ifslimehl

Bond, (tramp% for trespassing la search a some. Fined
25... Ineladom
Walter msg. 1, was inimmonea hi. Jonas
Marsh, of the was plane, for an assault. Fined 155.,
inelndiog mete.
trio Of two riloll2 ware sernninned for nen.payment
of neovrates. The e ,n, • were •ntiled nut of l'ourt with
e V." rtlnn of Jelni•ivi adapt, of Organ, a widow
abolt 70 rare of ate. rho pl, se she necepi.n in lifehold.
and sbn has nott.l.' to sappoit her but the le. she
w,ckly melees from the retrieh. One of the maids' atoll
aim le paid her rate@ and pinta, and as of,er leay.eit
the hall .11 • sip rreti t, he taken serious', 111, supplied
her with emissaries, and p,ll het fare bows.