The Stourbridge Observer, Cradley Heath, Halesowen & District Chronicle.
Stourbridge, West Midlands, England, 1873-06-28 00:00:00

UTE STOTTABRIDGE OBETERVER,

not • devotee ; but he alwaye attended to these, and went
regularly to mass on dnieday It was not the custom Of Sir
Edward Doughty or any pouessor of the ll*borne Nihau
to devote large sums of Money to YU Catholic relhdon.
The Dud Chief Justice 04 they give a peremitage of the
Welly property?—No, I nevu heard of such a thing It.
the greatest shburdity I. the world. I can speak positively
of Sir E lofted ou this subject, as I kept his honking books
and cheque..
sir dull. a Lush : I thick the defend& .t sold that they
gave es per cent. of the fatally income I --IL is perfectly Hdh
came, am every Cethollo in court must knee.
To the Jury : The rebtal of tee tiohhorne estate. wag
£o,ooon year. Upton yielded only a trifling sum. but the
Income of the Doughty estates was in my time from £10.090
to £IS.OOO • year, and was increased by perhaps £l,OOO a
year.
To Ur. Justice Lush : The defendant never put any Ques-
tion to me to teat my recollection, but left me to quesoon
him
to the Jury: If. did not show me his thumb, or allude to
any merle.
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Mrs. Goeford, the wife of the last wiiness, wild she fiest
knew It iger lichhorrie at (Merit 'a in the autumn of 1848,
and continued to know him intimately until his last visit to
Tichhorne in 1652 She was e locate lln Belgium, and knew
the French lainmage. it gm, while he was at Upton, and
when he no. preparing to leave Et gland, made her a present
of a little dog culled i•Soratcloy." Dined sonietimen with
R gee at Thibbortie. Knew f rem Lady Doughty and her
husband of his attachment for his cousin. Roger never
op die to her on the subject, Lady D told
her she was eery much attached to Rog r, but
at the same time there fire ere in
rite way or marriage. She tin miht her ottintliter we
too youdg. RIO said that b•ith Sir Edward /1.1 MO Jetties
had a Wank.* to the union of cousins. Cat holies were more
opposed to the maniac° of Mains than Protestants, and it
required a dispensation direct from Rime. ft ern not true
that she (witness) pressed Royer to marry his cousin, or that
her hushand did ao, (Ike dofemudniut In one of lilt v.-Talons
of the contents of the sealed packet wrote that they did).
She bocame aware of the sealed packet almost Immediately
after it was deposited with It, r huerand. lie told her of it,
and of the promise and vow Roger had made. She tomes the
contents. Al the end of 1867 or the beeinning of 1968, when
they were preparing to so to Wales, she and her
husband discussed the propriety of burning the pocket.
She saw it then. It was In an envelope and sealed, hut she
could not recollect whether she actually saw this document.
She did not see it destroyed, but they came to the conclusion
that it should to, and toe aupptwed It was destroyed. She
examined with bee towhead certain boxes containing letters
and property of Roger's, and delivered to the present Lady
Radcliffe at Brookwood a locket and a purse whl.ll she had
given to Roger. The locket contained hair, and had en.iraved
Inside, " Tichborne Palk, January 11. 1&52." Among other
articles found were a volume of Father Faber's poems, a
rosary, a small relic, and a crucifix. The roliary and relic
she produced. The cruclfix elle sent to Lady Doughty at
lishborue.

You have seen the defendant? Is he Roger Tichborne ?
Certainly not. He is not the least like him. I formed (mkt
opinion In the first halt her I ems him at the Law Institu-
tion, and the monmat I heard him speak.
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eff letter, written by the defendant to witness on the 14th
r f October, 1871, was read lie saki he sm. Informed by his
solicitor that among the papers of her husband sent to the
Judge by Mr. Robertson Gladstone, were several referring to
him, which confirmed his c inviction that the opposition he
met with on his IlreG arrival would not be encouraged or
sanctioned by her. Ile asked her, with the consent of her
husband, to grant him an Interview and spe tit the truth,
when he had no doubt her first impressions as to his identity
would be Confirmed.

Tne witness 5.1..1 she would have been only too glad to
have seen and ideutillad Roger. As to toe words In-
teresting document'. In her letter written from Wales
to her husband, she declared they did not allude
to the sealed packet. She could not recollect what It was,
but it was some trifling matter, saber husband was coming
home neat day, and the sealed packet was never in
Wale.
Daring the cross -examination a letter from witness to her
husband after the Gravesend interview was also read. She
said he had not told her • single thins:which preyed the men
to be an Imp Niter, and advised him to have a private inter-
view with him, and not to come bark until he hod valanced
both sides eqoally and decide I carefully whether he woe or
was not It nee, ob,ervlng she could not sleep at ulght for
thinking about the matter.
In re exert:duet', m the witness said that all her In clinotion
was that the defendant might turd out to be Rorer.
To the Lord chief Justice l thought that our interest
was In the defendant proving to be the real lt,der.
thoudit my husnand, to whom he was much attached,
would resume his old place In the family, and that Roger
would make all things straight for U., and get us out of
our difficulties It was tinier that Impression I wrete the
letter which has Just been read.

Mr Ci.i.ford having bee., recalled. pointed out, In reply to
the I,rd thief Juetice, a vrnarksblu pec illarlty in the real
It...ger's handwriting. describing It nu a little down-stroke
with which every word wag begun.
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The lArd Chief Jibtice thought It was rather an up-itroke,
bat observ,il that it was a remarkable kind of little prefix
to every word, will h ran tl rou:h all his letters Ile had
never seen it in any other writing before, and In the de-
fendant'. letters no such thing occurred

Lady ha icliffe. examined by Mr. Hawkins: My Christian
name is Catherine. lam the wife of Sir Percival Radcliffe,
.

of.Coveeshall.t'sstle, Staffordshire

~!kughttr of

E Heard and Lady 6 nalny, and was born in April, met
had • brother, who died in 135, In infaecy I knew Roger
Charles Tichttorne. I saw him first in 1,30 I did not ere
him again until the end of January, 1948, at Bath. My
father was staying there. I Was then at the convert at
Tondo., but came home forth, holidays for e week or ten
day.. That was the first time I made any satoi acquaint-
mice with R )ger. (return- dto Taunton, a).l my fatr or re-
turned to llchburne Roger left before el•lier of li,. I yes
metaled at Taunton until the 24th of June, 180 when I finally
left, Ain! went to Tichborne. R )ger had teen been resident
at fichbonie for semi, months. lie was preparing
ter his mamEation at Sandhurst. I recollect hts going for
exanilmtion. I have a diary in which I recorded met
of the events of that period. When he returre I learned
he hail passed his xandnation lie continued at Tithborne
until the 9th of Almost. Referring to her diary, L•ily Rad-
cliffe proceeded :—On the 7th of July Roger went to attend
hire. Tine funeral ; on the 9th lie went Ai Lowd in and re-
turned in the evening. [remember going with him to Win-
chester to see the presentetiee of colours to the 23rd Fmeliere.
He also went to the Go dwiied races at.d returned the
same night. On the following day he went to South-
ampton. Ile walk it back Tr seuthampton, eighteen
calm during the eight, arid arrived at richborne early I the
morello. line Roger n• arty every day. He continued hie
military etudies. At this vidt I noticed eomething upon
him. On law occasion I wanted some fi were out of the
water at Tlctiborne, and he turned hack his atom an I I sew
he was tuttoowl with a Cross, a beset, mid an uoilor At
dot or a subs. quent limo he 4.lfere.l to tattoo sue On
Annus( 9 he left, and a few days later I an i Sir Rimed and
Lady Doughty left for the purpose of going to Secttla.,l—
, di the 15th In London Roger 1111,1 Mr, slaughter
met us at the Waterloo station, and accompanied us to
au hotel tier Si. Katherine's Docks, where we were to
take the steamer. We dined together. Roger came
on len.' with us, mid remained until eight In the
evening. when the steamer left. We remained In Scot-
buid until the 28th ol September. Before we letureed to
Tiehbonie we went to Malvern to see my uncle, who was
iltiag Ola going hack to Tiehboine Roger came to visit us.
lls uutforne arrived, and we naked him to put tt on lor
dinner, end he did so. Ile rem- Med • few days only, and
then left for to wn on his way to Dehlin to join his regiment.
never corr.ponded with him, but I knew he waste constant
correspondence with Lady 11 omhty. On the 2/el of January,
1851. he again came to richbtrue. A Mies Hamilton es.,,
my governess In august. 1849, and she was succeeded ill the
20th of December by Miss Braille. She remain-el until the
following November. Idles Roane attended me in the
school-roeni. I don't recollect any room called the
green row. In January, 1661, Roger's visit ex-
tended to the end of the month. He came it age on the ' th.
On the sth I rode with him to the Grange, L rd Ashburton..
The Rev Mr Tilt, the pried, was eon of the piny. On his
birthday 1 presented him with that purse iproduced by Mrs.
Gosford). I worked it with my own hand.. It Is in the
colours of his regiment. Before he left to rejoin his regi-
ment he gave me • white alabaster rosary, with a little wilier
crucifix (produced). I gave him eolith* on that day. I did
not give him, as the defendent said, a white rosary and •
crucifix I did not Nee him again sot 1 July, 1,61, when I
was at Upton. In the meantime I had been at school at
Newhall, a convent. That was after Mite Brains had
left. Roger remained abut a week. We went with a
huge party in a boat to Bratiksea Tland, In Poole
Harbour, whioh belonged to Sir Frederick Foster.
I did not see R )gee until Christmas Eve in the same year.
Several members id the family were then assembled there.
Roger had • conelderable leave at that time, and his horses
were bronchi down to TIBETne for hunting. I remember
the 6th if January, 1852, Ms birthday, when some trees were
planted in Me honour. Ile planted one, I another, and
ulfferent member. of the fatally others. 1 was not aware at
that time he was paying attention to me. I gave him as •
present Father Faber'. hymns, and put a little nets hi the
book Roger presented me witn s purple memorandum book.
I prod u,:ed it at the last trial. At this viUt nothir If was said
about his state of feeling, but I hoped. On the 11th of Jan-
uary :Sunday morning) a servant came In while we were at
breakfast, aid said Str Edward wished to see Roger, arid he
went. The church bells rang, and we all went to church,
Including Roger. After mass I went to my room, and my
mother cone In and said my father had seen R 'for, and
wished him to lesve next day. She said, my father said he
did not wish mist" marry: he thought there was an attach-
melt growing up between us, and that it was better we
should be separated for some time. I told my mother I
'ebbed to ate Roger, and she seld I should tee him that
afternoon. I did see him about five o'cloce, in the drawing.
room. My mother accompanied me, and went in and eut of
the room. R seer told me who. had pursed with Sir Edward,
who thought first cousins should not marry. We hoped to
meet at a future lime

The Lord Chief hustles,: Did you give him to under-
stand that you cared for hins f—Oh, yes, my lord.
Witness continued : At that Interview we exchanged
locks of hair. I have preserved his, and produce it.
Several locks were cut off at that time, and the one In the
soiled paper I carried a out me. Belt re leaving the fol-
lowing day he gave me • tdece of work for a screen',
and an old Frensts prayer-book that he wanted me to take
rare of. I saw him before his departure, abont eight
o'clock In the morning Sir Ed ward was unwell, and
on the 30th Urinary he was taken much worse, and
we th iught he was going to Ole Itnanr was sent for, and
came in the middle of the night of the 3151 of January. I
saw him In the morning, when we had • conversation
about what should be done. Ile arranged that he would
have an interview with my father, mot auk for his
blaming if we should marry at any future period. Ile
had an interview with him, and I waited for his return.
My father was confined to his bed. On Roger's return to
me he wrote down what had occurred lie sited my father
whether, ii ho obtained his lather's consent and • (Impetus.
tin from the Church, my lath r would also consent ill our
marri um We were to wait for three years, and if we then
remained In the same state of mind, and his father c•msen-
led, and the Church granted dispensation, my father would
no longer withhold his cons,nt. Roger prolosged his visit
for a fortnight, and I ark 41 him after wit, da to write
an hear aa he could rem IL et what occurred in the in-
terview with my father or, the 11th of January. Ile did
so. (The document was read. It portrayed the deep
emotion and grief he felt at his leaving her, perhaps for
ever, and his having to kayo the house the neat morning.
It also prombsd Old, he wield come back In three years,
and if she was not married or engaged then he would
redeem his pr imlsn, but that if the was he would remain
In Intl i 5 for 14 or 15 years, lii another paper, dated
February 4, 1852, he wets that he would try to tall-fy
her wishes about his faults, but asking for Indul-
gence if rine thought them too long ; that she was the
only person for whom he hod formed so strong an attach-
ment: arid that she was the only young person who had
shown kindness to him, for which he felt thankful. Ile ex-
pressed his deep love fer her bey mid all oth, rs In the world.
All went happily until the 11th of January. lie hoped In
Vol next three years ts become all she wished him. It
would be • great comfort to him when In India to think of
her). . . . .

%Mims' continued: Sir Elward's be iroom during his Vi-
reo, was down stairs close to the library, and V e family
Lved during that tine principally in the larte library.
Rorer sat up with him several Malts be was much
exhautted. On anti occartion he would eat nothinz, and
what he took to drink had an effect on him. I spoke t
him about it, end on the sth of February he wet te me
a note in which he .'ld, "I give you my word of h ni ur
that i never will from this day dint a single drop .1
spirit of ahy kind whatever." I know that Roger kept
a diary, from his conetmit assertion that be wool sit
things. Lest year, It. remching over my papers, I found a
scrap if paper in which he referred to his °hwy. the let
of February, 1562, he gave me the locket produced by Mr
Godard, but It ride. nr t now contain ili/ h it, I asked him to
nave the date engraved. The hair Is that Of one cf my
children. I removed Rogers hair from it mom years ..go. He
bad my hair placed Pt a ft. he hr always 0 o,e. It hid the
same eta t, Om lit Jdo. Mine 1.5 s neve- been o int my p, s-
•ettloo and the .thee waa found in the parse try hire. Hord rd.
lie I. f; on my lather getting bette,, anti did nit not him until
:4tts Jane, when his regiment t had come to C uterbudy. l was
In London with my mother at the tlma He spent the day with
'rest she Royal Academy and afterwards visited, cousin of
mine Il'it saw him on the Isth. ile met us that day at the
aderlonian Bell. He hid obtained leave until the 23 d.
We saw him daily during that limn, and vbitei together.
tie made me a present of a little gold cross in our AR-
V ng room in our hotel in Albemarle-street. On the 19th
we returned home in consnrinence of my father', serious
Illness. Roger went with us. We found my father better than
we expected. Mr., Mrs. and Mbss /Cangle, and Colonel and
I jars, McDonnell were In the house visiting at the time.

Roger remained until Tees lay, 52nd Tune. On Mode, 1.
Bliss Naugle, I looel o:ovee fireemsroort, and Reser hedei
keg ride lON, in..obet•m. I never wilted Sr rode Meth Roger,
alone It anus that visit out f the mooed!. 1.4 t themorn Mg of
the find I Sr.., with Vim in the gardso. We walked by th fiver
whi,:t Is 1114. cite the eirswirg room and e intug-room
wltr‘ows, about donuts, the dieta.ce of the evert. after-
ward., In the Orswiort r.om, Roger give me a pap. r if
spoke of our wish that my lather ',mid withdraw his prohi-
bition, arid to bald he hest tale second conversation about
It with my father hot he would ant chitoce—st all events
we'itll.t wait to,, yam... Re then gave me a letter,
saying. " This is a promise I have made and will Met,*
and that be had given a slentar mm to Gosford. We
read It over tore ther. Nis stated the last day I ever saw
Roger, viz ,on the 22nd of Juno, audit in as r Mows :—" r
Teske n this day the proodse that if I m aery my c mein
Kate Lasurthly this year, or before three yeses are Mier at
the list st. to outhl a church or chapel at Tich`lorne to the
Holy Vie Ii as t oank aaht oat for tlae protection which she
wilt have sto, on us in pr s leg Ghat that our wishes 19018 lit he
movie I." lie gyve Ine the laaner ahom one uVeck, and le,t
*bone three o'clock. From that time, Ye my knowledge, lie
toiler ,etlithe its Tie tdvarue. I never *tor ladn af tervrerds. I
1,4 w the tett Kt marks first In 1849, ant again at Coristinas,
1851, when he showed hi' arm t e sever d of our Irlses itt
to drawing-room at Tleirearne. Wes It ayakel losV
marvel, and Hats too Wells (now a nun) were present
lie arks I me °Poo or twice P 1 would Ht. to or tattooed.
ce j-cte t that I did net lite pelts lie copied, "Oa, It wool
hurt you mach : its obi) do.. with needles end gunpywder
robbed in " rile Net time I sae him be said he as, gslog
to have a tToSS tattooed upon hi, breast, that it might ha
known 113 was a Christian if he died amongst the North
American Indi,n,

Yon Ip.ve told nv that the 22nd of June was the last time
you ever raw Willi—Yes, of that I am sure.
Now. Is It tme that the f t that his attachment to you
was not acceptable t your father first manifested itself at
the latter part of 8521—N0 the e Is no truth in that at
all (it was the do endent's stove.nent )
Yea were present in court when the deUndant was exa-
mined alto R Wees attachment to you I—Yes, I way.

We there ever my familiarity between you and Wester
other than what you have mentioned P—No, never ;most em-
phatt'ally
Now, did you hear the question put to the defenders', " Do
yen urean to .wear that you seduced your cousin P ' —Yes,
I did.
And did you hear the answer —" I solemnly swear before
God that I did r—Yes. It is perfectly hies Perfect'y
fame! Roger Ttchborne would never have thought of such
a thing.
War there ever any foundation for it even as a rumour)—
Never

- --YOU heard his account of It ; is there any truth in it?—
There is not a syllable of truth In it It lan fabrication from
beginning to end. There is not. word of truth In it.
Did you ever see him after the 22nd of Jane, 1852?—N0,
nev, r Never' Neither at T cub ,rne nor any where else.
Did he ever meet you In Novemb,r (as the defendant swore)
and get off hie horse to speak to you? No, certainly udt.
There is iota word of truth m it. (tod knows lam speaking
the truth,

[" It la impossible to deserl,. the indignant emphasis and
spirit with which Lady Radcliffe gave these mistress," re-
marks (he Timex ]

Af,er one or two answers of minor importance, the
Conn adjourned.

Lady Ruhrliffe's examination woo continued on Wednes-
day I never gave Eager Tlchboree a ring and • rotary.
Bogle was a servant In the house in 1852 He left England In
April or Msy, 18.',4. for Australia My father died bib
March, lebS, almost Immediately alter 12 :ger had left. From
June, Me, when I heard the Bella was lost, until September,
1866, I did not hear that Roger was aim.. I married in
Ootoher, 1e64. My mother died 12tn December, 1872. I
was 111 the house when her depealtions was taken. Id the
early part of 1867 I heard el the defendant's arrival, end
afterwards Bogies letter arrived. The defendant made
no communication ii me, or any of his advisers. Steps Were
taken for me to have au interview with him. On the Bth
Merch I went with my husband ann Mrs. Toweley to
Croydon, and saw the deforms: 1. Sly liusbaud and Mr.
Townley went in nest, and I remained for • few miuutee In
the cab Mrs. Lucy Townie, cerne f.:r in«. It 'gee was per-
fectly well acquainted with her. We were all tint cantina
lipmi entering the room the defendant said to me, "flow
do you do, Lucy?" Mrs. T fivniey is older, and nat Ike
me. I sat el en opposite to him and pulled up my veil.
There was a r‘right light tipon all our faces. My humbeted
said to the defendant, " Are you quite sure you know
which cumiu you are addressing? ' tne defendant having
asked me after Mr. Townley after I had hakes up my
yell. Be said in • sort of broken Eogllch, "Tory don't
recognise me and I don't recognise them, we are so
changed I see now you most be Lucy (addressing Mrs.
Townley) because you are elder." I asked (tut where we
la. net. lle said at Tlchborne, just beiore I went abroad,
when lfecle Edward was very 111. I ached him if he re-
membered any person who was staying at Tichnorne. He
replied he did nut R 'gee never called my father "Uncle
Edward," and he was net it Tichb,rue just before he
died. He 11111 not remember nip horse, but he said Le
remembered my uncle Elward's white pony, which drew
his chair. My father never tall • white puny or poetry-chair.
I asked him when and where lie saw Riffle, and he replied
at Cubitt• office, lie said he saw Gilfml I have heard
so many versions of this conversatioe that I have WAWA
forgotten it. He said that Moore had behaved very bad to
him, that he hoped he should never see him again. I asked
him to tali us al, 'at his travels M B.Juth America, and ne re-
plied that he bad been novice : by I:is solicitors .A to speak
on the subject I angel him where he was quartered iu
Ireland, and he said Dublin, Catitr, Waterford. and the
Curragh of Kildare. He added, I may as well tell you
a, 'no that I have the cep'alu and several of the crew who
were a kl with me when the Bella went down." Gab of us
asked him eby he Mill not •r 114•11 to my mother, who had
always been very kind to him, sled he remied because
she had called hint an impone, and that he had seen
It in writi,:g. He was ru btrig hie knee, and thinking
I was looking at hint. he add, " I caught the rheumatics
In am sing the Pampas, and I hive Well Wild ever
since " Ile kept up the kimi of French accmt through.
out, but I doh., rec dieet if he htd any French words. In
reference to the properly he sold, "I made that right in
Paris " Ile said Mr. Goaford had behaved very bad to him,
mid I think he said he would not recognise hint from in.
Wrested motives. We wished hint to se my mother. I next
saw him in curt during the last trial—every day. Al the
first interview I leis sure it was not Roger, but I felt un-
willing to aleclde hastily. Hu accent then deceived me.
It was similar to Roger's, but in court his voice and accent
ha t chat gee ; they were mate uidareet. I then came to
the decided opinion that he w. no; Roger Char.. rich-
borne. Carta uly not, Warn I saw hi::. to court there was
not,ing anout him that Inc the least resembled Roger. nor In
there now.

Cross.mmined by Mr. Kenealy Lie went to Goodwood
Itsceeln 1-49. My mother was aida us wi.en Roger gath red
the Misers anti chewed the thttc muka, aod also Mies
Charlotte lotb,t and toy uucle, Itger Tichborne. They
are all dead. I hove not the lea 4 idea if coat sleeves
were worn loose or tight then lam sure the mark. were
not of a blui.di colour. I distinctly remember having seen
the mans on three tocastons. Mrs Whuley, then Miss
Marty., and I thiek Mts. Amy Walls, slow in a convent,
wer, present in toe drawing-room when Rdger Showed the
marks.

: Then there Is only one person alive, Miss
Wtibil.prACtiCiii* dead
The L Ctnel Janice : Oh, dear no.
Mr lieuealy : She is dead to the world. She can't come
Out of the COIIVtLt.
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- Ihe Lord l'hl.l Justice : Oh, yes. A little bit of paper
from this court will open tile door Of any convent or any
other pls. In the country.
Mr, Elswkins I thu kwe can all recollect a celebrated
case in which a great many nuns were brought to tt.is court
SR ergot...es . .

Witness continued I think bin. Well. the present Go.
veruor of Western Australia, ass ale present. Roger nein r
made advances to me until 1852. We were never engaged.
I illlOrMed my mother of my growing ettachnient to I rim,
and she told me it must not be on account of the relation.
ship. I °my wrote him two short not S. Roger Was very
muM excited at the tenant, bail when he c inn of age, and
then! thick he took too much. I never showed to in) mother
She written description of It 'ger's feelings when he was told
we mast not marry. It g-r did not mane any allusion
to his mother. I was in such distress at the time that I
don't remember sill asked him or all he said tome. I asked him
to write down his interview Within) father. I tint showed it to
my mother in 1570 I .11.1 010 rumuulcate to him the promise
to build • church until some time after It was made. I think
it was after he had left England, but I cannot recollect. I
eel mire it was before 1,70 Roger parted isi.h the family
on the mat affections. e termite June, 1852. Hanover visited
atter. Ile %as only Invited mice after. I often spoke to nay
mother about hfs absence. l never told my father anything
about the promise. No ring of any sort pa.sed between n 4 as
presents. I lashed with Roger ab.rut the garden alter be made
the promise. louver took tic untry walk aline with him. I
should never have thought of it. Wc, were not In the habit of
doing it. I don't know Berry 11E1 plantat•on. I never walked
with Roger alone in Fully Wood and Water-lane, claim to
Tichborue. 1 am quite certain 01 11. I doa't know Coal Har-
bour, I know Elorseley Plantation anti the Lover's Seat. I
was never once with Roger In the Lover's Seat alone. Of
that lam poanive, there is not the slightest mistake about
it. liorseley Plantation is within tichborne grounds. I
might have walked there with aim once, but I do not re-
member it. I know Father Guider very well. In 1667 I
vl,Led him with my husband at Guernsey. I again mot
tine In 1971. at Lady Doughty's. I lii not have a private
Interview with Father Guises at Guernsey ether than at
co,fession. He livid in Tiohborma village in June 182, and
left in August or Septrm ,er. I went to the Isle of Wight
for s month I was not ill when I went there. I was not
Well in August I have no dou.l Dr. Lipscombe prescribed
for me between the 19th August and the hod Scrm. er. I
went to the Isle of Wight on the nth Sentembe {Bet seen
Clot Limo and the end of November I never sa Roger at
Tichborne. I was never at any time with R 'greats vington
11111. In 1067 1 went to Palls and saw H. Chatillon and
D'Arms i. I had a conversation with Chatillou about the csse.
I did not ask Ii Alford to give up flu paper after the sill was
proved. Roger never had a twitch. I have one, bid it ear met
be like Rogers, because he never hat one OcCanaluely
It loer raised his brows and opened his eyes. It was never re-
marked that my forehead and ears are Rae It %et or the
voice.

\tithes' : I can't explain the difference of voice. rWished
to s, the lefendant a second time, because it should not be
sai that I had judged has, 4, and I also wanted to ask him
ab .ut•101110 crosses he ebb] be had given t, m... When the de-
fendant walked to as Craydon 50 see WO DJl•atiti Lady Mich-
Amite, Is, excused ourselves by saying, "We have comet. see
you " It had been arranged that. 1 shoal remain Co the cab
to test the defendant s knowledge of his CO4lllllll I wore •
yell, through winch my fa,m could be distinctly seen. I
afterwards lifted it up.

e.
[Mr. Kenealy then proceeded to crose examine tile e Oman
about the rullbed photograph. I
Mr Hawkins I',rill auk son Oils veer.' question. Wee
there ev.r any act of familiarity or Impropriety between you
and Roger in the whole cour..e of y,ur life?
Wi,ness Never in the whole cnrehe of my lie. That I
na,at 3..6mi11y swear. On the former trial It war not lug-
posted that I had been in any place alone with R wer except
Sarin zton Mill and Water lane. Mr. Lips° rnhe was the
froarly med.cal attendant lie was ceded on the lest triel
by the defendant My name was hot mentioned to him. No
question was then put to no a .ut Or. Lipacoadyt'e attending
webn 1.52.

Mr. keueali You are sure he never opened RN eyes?—
_

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The Gerd Chief Justice : Only when he looked at her.
(Langer)
Mr. Kenealy appealed to the court whether the reatsmt-
nation was relevant.

Th L ord Cider Justic 3 : Most relevant. You must be the
on,y peel m who doe, not eye It
Mr. K-nealy: It must not be *amused that the de.
fendam.'s advisers then posvereed the same Information as
now. -

Lord Chief JII3LICO : tla always open to that obser-
vation. But the tvidenee Is of extreme relevancy surd Im-
portance. teat op the time Lady Ruhnilie was it the box
on the former trial no suggestions 01 the kind presented
themselves.

ItAdeliffe to Mr. Hawking :1 had not the least idea
that I rhonld be cromeramlned relative to Dr. Lipre•oruhe'd
mewed hing for me. I was not arked to produc., any pro.
ecription from him. Father Guider died stew we-lis airo.
Tim Lord Chi- f Juetlce : You know Sevt.n.3ou Mill. Who
olcn.red it in 1852 t—Clid Mrs. Cole suit her son and
(laughter.
Whist rooms had they to live in 7—l only know of one an
old.f sell sod louking room. I went there once with Miss
Nanele..

Wa here more than one room downetairs I—l don't re.
member. I went there once or twi.. with Ansa Na, We. I
Wthot to have Boole kingfisher., and 31. a. Cole reared some
for m.

--WT. there any rrom which you and Roger could have oc-
cupied by yourselves ?-1. only know of the ode room I have
deacribe,i.

fr Psraeval ILicltff w.s next calf d F n.e R )ger
at Porton Con,ebi ), s th oie on a visit with
Mn :or a Pictish.: 1 I,l'. 010 donbt
I ahnnid be able to recognise hun ill were to gee him.
(Wailes. town deactibed the interview at Croydon, which
corroborated Lady Radcliffe's evidence )

Ilre. Nenele swore that the defendant was not Roger Itch-
borne, whom Woe knew wen.

The' court then again adjourned.

A Kiel Professor of Philosophy has, according to the
Germait papera, given a ball to celebrate the 2,802 ad annlver•
eery of the birth of Plato I

MR. MECHI ON THE CROPS.
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mr Mechi writes to es (The Times) from Tiptree lv
norm on the subject of the crops
"A very wet an' umn, followe 1 by &frostiest; winter,
rendered both the clearing an.l seeding of the la, d
difficult imperfect, late, and co-tly. Tlo-n came 14
weeks of piercing, riv3ing winds, with flight hosts,
tke lat severe one being on the 20th of May. As
night be expec:ed, the tlrope looked lute, thin, and
gappy, until greatly improved by the genial rains
seed higher Ism .erature of Jute.
"On good lands, and on well-farrned lands, properly
drained, deeply cultivated, and well nianured, there
will probably be an average yield of wheat and all
ether crops; but no the very enemies area of unim-
proved and untrained land, parlcularly where poorly
tanned, the wile:A cop e,peei..liy most fall far short
of an average. I form this opinion both from my own
b,elvat on and from inf. irritation obt.ained from most
parts of the kingdom. Root crops plant well, and the
petato crop is at present promising. Tue early hay
crop will not be abundant. Beans are doing well where
early planted. Early table peas are not an abundant
cr.:ll:Spring sown wheat and Eteriug corn geucrally are
tow improving rapiirly, but there will be very few
laid crops of any kind, straw being short. This is in
favour of a good quality of grain, which we may
ream nubbly expect.
" Wheat is in and ci.ming in to full ear in EfiaX,
and we calculate upon cxoninencing harvest about the
first week in August—in our early districts rather
sooner.

'There belng no laid crops, mowing and reaping
machini s will b- very extensively used, especially now
that agricaltural labour is so much dewer.
"I atu afrai I that this will prove a second very un-
favourable year for many arable farmers. stock
breeders have done well."