The Stourbridge Observer, Cradley Heath, Halesowen & District Chronicle.
Stourbridge, West Midlands, England, 1873-10-18 00:00:00

gingen. I landed in Melbourne Cobbs'. 14th, 1863, and I
landed in London May Rah, 1866. I was then • oornond In
the Royal Roemer,. In 1864 there Wm • sham MR than
nailed the Comet, which plied &mom the harbour from Mad-
rid/et to Williamstown. I wee on board her one day In July,
1064. I am not cerkon of the day, but I think It was the
Ildnd On lard. The CII*4III ran the Comet on tbat day Mork-
Ade • three-masted ship. I only know her name front what
wee said at.tbe

Mr Mackin. orlected.
Witness : I took he for • threirmaated schooner. We
took seven or eight persons on Wale the Collide from her
and landed them at Sandridge.
Mr. Kenealy : I propose to ask him II these people Ws
an amount of themselves.
Mr Hawldna &leaned.
The Peva ruled that tee evidenee could not be ad-
ifigam : All but one Were dread In blue jerseys and
whlteasuvaa trousers. That one was dressed in • plain suit
—I don't know the material. It was • suit studs as a lands-
man would wear, and he did not appear to be a tailor. I
have not the slightest recollection of the man. He sppeued
th be about it or3o years of age, and did not appear to be
worn out or eta. I had no conversation with him. The
gold f was rather strong at the time In Melbourne. I
a't know like astanality of the alp.
[The wiSheno was thes cross-examined by Mr. Hawkins.)
Bearandned : The men oomlng on board the Costa made
an hapremion on ma. The men did not tell me anything
personally. What they said to others made an tieeeden on
me. / felt no !Merest in the ahlp when the men came on
board, and I did not look for bet name. There wee• gold
fever la Melbourne Ii 18S4.
The Lord Chief Justice : Was there any Interruption In the
land servio: during the time of the gold fever?
I can't Ur. I believe not.
Mr. hullos lash: Had els rand • round or • agnate
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TIM& Moat Refleal.6 I am • merehant at Londois
street, 04. I was in Melbourne, to the best of lestf
recollection, In Jane or July, 1864. I can't say which
month. In 18'4 1 had occasion to frequently visit Mel-
bourne on bunkum from Sydney In June or Jail, 1854,
there were two Ovreys In Bohemia Bay on the same
day—one • small Scotch schooner, nom 70 to 75 tons, and
the other a vessel from 900 to 600 Lona I went on board
the latter. I can't reeollect U she had her colours
flying. To Ur hest of my recollection she had a deck-
house between the fors and main mast. She had a
round stern. She was pslated black, with a white
acme head, representiag the bird osprey. She was a
three-muted schooner. I can't say where she hailed
from. She had yards on her foremast, bat not on her
main and seism made. At this time I was purchasing
vessels, and I was on board her from a quarter to
half an hour. There were one or two men ell board. I
bought the Scotch schooner. I did not inquire if the larger
one was for sale, and I only went on board her from
curiosity in cone-gnomes of her beadily the same name. She
was a " olipptr," and if I had known she wastrom Baltimore,
I should have called her • Baltimore clipper. She had a
broad brain and small depth of hold. She was lying off
Sandridge Pier, In front of tiaras Beach, about 800 or 400
yards from the shore. She wan • taut rigged vemeL The
little Osprey had, I think, a " Addle " Ague-head. Is is
just pomade that she might bare had • bird. I don't
remember, although she was my own vessel. tam in error.
I bought two sokoonera. One, the Red Row., had • fiddle"
head, and the other had a white bird of the sise end charms-
ter 01 an osprey. Each Osprey had, I think, a bird. I re-
collect the steam-tug Comer. The gold fever, I thhsk, was
mains at tide time, There was conaiderable delay at Sims,
at the Custom-house.
Crothezaminsd by Mr. timid's, : Delay has oconrred at
Sydney as w.ll ma Melbourne. I know the Red Jacket. I can't
say II the was at Melbourne in July, 1866. There is very sel-
dom any Interruption in the steam service of the Post office.
I am not aware at any particular interruption of the postal
service during this time. Acquanitanoes of mine were ion-
tonally returning to England. I am sure it wds in Jane, 1854,
that 1 mil at Meluonme, bail caul say it Ulna early or late
In the month. I was there for smooth or six weals. tam not
able to say positively that the name was on the larger vessel's
stern. lem not quite (*Main about the deck house, bull
thlnk she had one. I cannot say it the had • cargo or any
boats on board.

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Mr. Hawkins: I suppose the figurehead was like so osprey,
an eagle, or any other lid. As much likes red lion seared
lion is likes lion.
Witness: Possibly. I meek from the beet of my recollece
Hon. My haying seen her had gamed from my recollection
until the late trial commenced. I was not called as •
witness. I was not communicated with until after the trial.
Reading the lad trial brought ft to my recollection-
Boexantined : When I wee communicated with by Mr.
Spefforth I remembered the circumstance of the Osprey. I
was on board the little Osprey twice before pendular her.
By Mr. Justice Lush A month or two afterwards I saw
the large Osprey In /Sydney, when she was chartered for the
East. I afterwards heard she was lost.
J. E. LIARDICT I live at Deptford. I was in Melbourne
from the commencement of 1861 until 1871, and, emoted
other things, I was clerk to the Justices and Commissioner of
Crown Lends. I remember the arrival of Sir W. Denison as
Governor of the :olony. I Irwin Melbourne, I believe, in July,
1864. The port was full of shipping at that time. My attention
was particularly directed to • ship by one of the crew of my
brother-in-law's host I looked at the ship, the was a fine-look.
log craft of her olaes, and I directed Mennen to pull round her.
My brother-in-law, sir. Charles Menial], was at the time the
principal emigradon °thou of the port, and afterwards a
gold commisdoeer. I went on hoard. I think her name
was printed on the stern—the Osprey. 1 saw two or three
men on hoard of her, but say tt they note Englishmen
or foreigners. She was a thin-muted schooner, ad a
very smart looking vessel of 10 or 400 t as, the was
light In the water, her cargo having been discharged. I
had • conversation with the men on board. The gold
fever was running very high in Melbourne at that time, and
there were "rushes" to the diggings. I had difficulty in
keeping my own policemen together. An increase of pay
and allowances was given to them to induce them to stop in
the force. The crew. of some ships deserted, other skips
got men, and left the port for England.
Croe,..taod .41 ..y M. liaagna I .111 n d see the 0, •!,
on the night of her tonna in Melbourne. I flaw no oilluer
on board the visaed I can't distinctly state that I saw the
name on the vessel, but I think I saw it on the stern. 1
don't remember her figure head. I was crossing from ,
Williamstown to Sandrldge in my brother's boat when I saw
the vette?. I only went on bowed once, but I had a look at
her three or four time. I stayed in Melbourne for a month.
I did not see at the seine time a small schooner called the
UreYismlned : I saw the small Osprey after in Sydney
She traded between Melbourne, Sydney, and New Zealand.
MINIAN Tv.6llCB LGCtalerr : I reside in )(freshly. I was
Is Melbourne in 1e53, and carried on business as. merchant
It was pat t of my dilly to board ships on their arrival in the
bay. I know the Comet, Captain Carder. I was examined
on the former trial. I was en board the Comet when the
captain road.. statement, Ti was In June, July, or magnet,
1854. Ile directed my attention to some seafaring men on
board. I had a conversation with one of them—s captain.
The Lord elder hustle.: What oeptain ?
Witness: Of the 'easel who picked up three men.
I kb. Hawkins :I object to the question.
I Witness :A vessel was polluted out to me by the captain.
She was square rigged on two or three of her mute. She
, was either a barque era ship. She was three os four miles
' from the Comet, lying at anchor in the bay. One or more
of the men were foreigner,. The Cornet steamer was going
from Williamstown to Melbourne. The square rigged vessel
had an elliptic stern. I did not ste any chest', boxes, or
bags with the men.
A Jurymaa : Did the captain say she was three or four
miles away. and that yet he saw she had an elliptic stern 1—
Witness: Yee.
A Juryman: Had you a glass with you!
Witness: No. She might have oome from Sandlidge. she
did not call there. I got on board at Williamstown. The
men were taken to Melbourne. I ant saw them when I got
on board at Williamstown.
• Jur, man : How ware they dreamed
Witness: Just like sailors, not in go-ashore clothing.
They went to Melbourne, the end of the steamers destina-
tion I don't remember If they were all dressed alike. The
captain was dressed Rite • merchant capteia going to town.
I got ashore so soon as the Comet arrived, and I don't know
what became of the men. There wee much confusion and
bustle in Melbourne owing to the gold fever. There
was a great deal of irregularity in the Custom-house and in
business generally, in consequence of ships arriving in great
numbers, and men deserting. It was not so bad sell was
in 184, but ships lay in Hobson's Bay In 1864 for the want
of crews. I was ones on board a ship, the Hari Gray, when
a boat's crew was picked up in the Atlantic by another ship,
the Highland Chief—both ship* bound to Montreal.
Mr. Hawkins: This could not prove a customer maritime
usgs
The court said the circumstance' must so vary that it
would be impossible to lay downs general rule; and if there
was, how could the wttnem prove it?
Witness I took the captain who was with the Men to be
a Welshman.
Cross examined by Mr. Hawkins I won't swear that he
was • Welshman. It is the duty of a captain, when he picks
np • crew, to report it to the Custom House A captain is
not bound to report it to Lloyd's agent at the port. It Is no
part of his duty to do it, and I don't think it ts the
practice to do it. I should think he would report
it to the Customs, and not go near Lloyd's agent. I Would
think that It a captain saw • ship go down, and he
knew the name and the nation of the ship, it would be
his duty to report it to the Customs and fake no notice of
Lloyds' agent. On the former trial I said the men were taken
on board the Comet to May, June, or July, roma months prior
to October, and In the summer weather. That was, that Oc-
tober was in the summer season. The occurrence was two
June, or July. It was in the winter time It might have been
months prior to the 7th Sept, 1854 It might have been May,
a month before the 7th of July, DU. I was living In Williams-
town at the time, and! was going f rom that place to Melbourne.
The Cornet did not call at any pier between the two places. She
might have called at Sandridge and taken the men from &ship
before I got on board at Williamstown. The Cosset traded
about In the bay wand from passenger ship. On this par-
ticular morning she went direct from Williamstown and Mel-
bourne, The ship might have been a three masted schooner
with yards. I will swear thatch. had three made. On the last
trial I said my impression was that she had three maste the
was • great distance off, and I can't speak to tonnage. I
said lest time there were ten or twelve men, and if yea had
asked me eight I would have said so. You wished to make
It ten or twelve. Perhaps I said ten or twelve to Mr.
Berjeant Hansen:ie. I say now between six and twelve. To
the beat of my knowledge and belief there were ten men. I
may be wrong. It was no business of mine to count them.
Yowls were constantly sailing from Melbourne to England
in 1864.
rookies DoellAY : I wine from Clonmel, was formerly
• hair dresser in that place. I out the alines' hair of
the Carabineers when they were at Cahir and Cionmel, I
cut Mr. Tlchborne's hale. I saw a scar at the back of
one Olives head, long at this distance of time I son'
say who It was, or if he was an efflux of the Carablneers.
In 1871, and during the last trial. I examined the de-
fendant's head at tile Waterloo Hotel, I Wend a sear there
corresponding to the one 1 bed before seen on an office 'a
head. (The witness examined the defendant's head, and
pointed out the scar at the bottom of the back part of
the head towards the right.) I Naked him U he recollected
having his hair cut in Cionmel. He said yes. I asked him
In what part of the town the establishment wee situated. He
▪ exactly halfway down on the right hand side, between
Miss Smith's and the barracks. The answer was perfeetly
correct He said he was the officer who marched the Roman
Catholle men to &wet I found the soar from my own re.
collection where the sear win that I saw on the head of the
officer in CionmeL

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The Lord Chief Justloe.—Do you say he we. home ?
Witness Well, he was deranged In many ways. Ile was
,ot sane when he left the veseeL
Mr. Justice Mellor.—He wan delirious when you left him ?
Witness : Ile was wonderfully deranged.
How do you describe deranged I—He was not right In his
lead at the time.
Kenealy : Do you know whether he had a cap or • hat
in when he was picked up?
Witness: Ile had a marten! his head, but no hat or cap
Da.
Mr. Justice Lush What do you say about his clothes?
Witness: light calico clothes that they wear Over in the
south.
'the Lord Chief Justice : Did be ever dime at the captain's
table?
Witness: No, Never. He had his dinner served from the
osptain'a table, and I brought it to hint In the berth he had
with me.
Mr. Kenealy : Have you ever seen persons suffering from
reintroke ?
witness I have, sty. I have had it myself.
DIA this young gentleman appear to you to have any
symptoms of that I—Ye., that is what he had.
Roe, did he tell yos anything about himself I—No, he
never told me anything. I asked hint his name after he
had been some time abroad, and be told me I could call him
what I liked, and then they called the lot at them April
fools.
The L'ird Chief Justice Shen am I to understand you he
did not tell you his name?
Witmer.: No, not till a time after.
Me • : What mouth did you pick them up In?
Witni-es April. After a time he told me his name. Ile
said it was H ,gen.
The Lrd Cider Justice: What did he say when you asked
him his name?
11. I II ma to call him a.
DPI he repeat-that on subsequent 00e&SIDOS I—On several
occsalons
You say that once he did tell you I—Yes he told me his
name was Rogers.
Roger., with an s?—Yes I thought so, and we called him
Rogers.
DPI you put any Mr. when you addressed his. I—No, I
called him Rogers. He told me that be had been in brand,
and went on board a vessel ol the name of Bella In Rio, and
that they were boned for Anterior with & cargo of at ffee. I
asked him if he bad been staying any length of time in the
Brazils, and he said he had only stayed a short time there.
Then I asked him If tie was a runaway bankrupt, zed I
never got any answer of that, and I always believed he was
runaway bankrupt.

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The Lord Chief J uatioe : What did he further tell you about
the Bello—what did you ask him
Witness : I asked how the vessel got wrecked. and he
said they had been out only a few days after leaving Rio,
and some time In the day they found the vessel was in a
sinking state. They put out their boat., and theme. divided
thernseive do the boats. Ile himself never gave me a real
nudentanding about the wreck.
hr. honesty: oould you get any dlettnot account of the
transaction from him.
Witness No, bet I afterwards got it from the crab.
You say you washed him every day I—Yea.
All over many times I washed him all over. Ile
had my own clothes.
When yen were washing did you see any mark upon him?
—Y., I saw a mask a little above the hip towards the back.
It was a kind of olive-coloured mark.

Did you find the mirk or • cut upon him I—Yes, he had •
cut here (pointing across the beck of the neon
Dow did you find out that cut t—l ban cut hie bah several
times.
D.d you ever speak to him about It IL—Yes.
The Lord Chief Justice: What did you ask him
Witness I asked him how he got It, and be told me that
he bad met with an accident.
Did he tell you what the accident was l—No ; not that I
remember. . .
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Crow-examined by Mr &dean' Parry : Previous to coming
to London I spoke to Captain Bell. He said I ought to know
She officers of the Cuabineers u I cut their hair. I told him
about the scar. The defendant's head la considerably larger
than the gentleman's whose hair I cot In Clonssel. It Is not
a scar but • bard plum, and might have been produced from a
blow, or from plAl• or brine. I have known people to get
bald where pickle has fallen on the head. (Witness, at
the request of the court, made • sketch of the spot, and the
one he drew on the last trial was compared with it. The
one sketched to-day was much larger than that drawn on the
first trial). Ths defendant's head le much larger than the
other gentleman's. I should not have known the defendant's
head from lii size If It had not been for the mark.
The Court then again adjourned.

On Tneeday the Court met et ten o'doek.
JEAN Ltrin, • Dane, eland:led by Mr. Kenesdy.aid:! was
born et Borunhohn, an Island In Denmesze. lam &seafaring
man. I know • ship called the Osprey. I first knew her in
ISM When I j >heed hr she sailed under that name but
before I joined her she sailed as the Heisseha I Mead her
in 1851, in New Orbant When! Joined her! became steward.
We sailed from Staten Island, In New OrMans. It was is the
latter pert of February, 1854. We bed • cargo of bricks,
bread stuff, and digging Implements, and spare out up. Thom
are not the thipme.aalipd noMone.". _

The Lord Chiel Jastioe : What sort of. ship wu she I
Witness: She was a barque rigged vessel.
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Eternization continued :Site carried on her dubs a cabin
and galley, including the forecutle. The cabin wee between
the inain and tbe mini) masts. The forecastle and galley
were between the fore and main masts. Her registered
tonnage was between 800 and 400 tons, and her oarrying
tonnage would be from 626 to 660 tons. Her brawn
were lunch and Marskey, of New York. We crossed the line
In April, and got Into the southeast trade 'dud When off
the coast of kradi our attention was attracted early In the
morning to • boat. We had bad • way rough night, with
squils and rain. We nollind • boat on our port bow. W.
wen don halal So the Wed as oar raw. TIN WA

—ivita;ss : No.
You are a Roman Catholic : Yes.
Did he wear anything trot attracted your notioel—Yee,
he had a rosary round his neck.
Do you remember anything else during the voyage except
these things you have told tua—No, I don't.
Were you obliged to watch him carefully I—Yee. I had to
watch him often In the night time. Re wanted to run out
on dec., especially whom we had any weather or had to take
any reef In, or anything of that sort.
Have you ever seen him or found him on the deck f —Yea,
many time., and I have had to take him to *gain.
Of those occasions, was he dreamed or undressed P—Always
nudge med.
To. Lord Chief Justices : Thee did he never during the whole
of this time dress himself e
Witness: Yes, he had only his simple clothes with him. I
had to wash hie clothe.. Sometimes he put on his groom*
Then en those occasions did he go on deck)—Oh, yea; he
went on deck /ellen we had flue weather.
Mr. Keyed., . You say he would be undressed on deck. Da
you mean undressed entirely?
Witness: Oh no ;he was partly greened. He had his shirt
on.
Was he able to shave himself, or could you trust him to
shave Moment—He did not want to shave. He had nothing
to shave. He We. • youth.
The Lord Chid Then he was a man without •
beard? .

Witness: Well, he wu a youth.
But at this time he would be about twenty.lotr or twenty-
fire years ef age 7—He had only a little hair about Ids month
—s moustache I cannot oral that a beard.
Mr Kemal, : Did you notice anything in his walk?
Witness: He had a crooked leg growing Inward.
In what way did he employ himself on board t—l used to
give him some yarns, and sued to pick • little oakum.
Was any u 56 made of the Übe, men who were picked up
In the beat I—Yes, when they recovered. Two of them
were well, but the other three never did recover to their
proper state of health. They used to be employed In re-
pairing sane. The two who recovered did duty on board.
What time of the day did you get te Melbourne P—We
came into Williamstown about eight o'clock.
A later What countrymen were these See sailors?
Witneess Two of them were Portuguese, who came aboard
at Rio. The others were Engliob.
Did thus men go mhoret—Af ter we had arrived and got
to smohor and we had had breakfast, we got ouk,s he Jolly
boat and went ashore with these men—young Rogers and
four of the crew of the Osprey.
The Lord Chief lushes You boat went ashore?
wily,. Yes; our boat went ashore with ihe pilot, Cap-
ISM Stinnett, and thh young mall, Rogers.
Mr. Jnatioe Mellor: Tbe others remained on board I
Waimea : YOB. We unbent the sails and made the vessel
snug. In the afto noon I and two of the Bella's me—
(:UE.ls and Lewls)—two Englishmen, with two of the
oßpewo prow—(kndPrion and Macarthy) deserted the ship.
We took the Belle's boat ashore, and landed at Melbourne.
The Lnrd Chief Justice : Then you had the Belle s boat?
Witness Yea, we saved that boat when we took them in.
Where did you got—To itaderat. to the "diggings"—
leaving the boat behind no at Melborne.
Mr. Justice Lush : The same day?
Whom : Yes, the very same day, about four in the after-
noon. We left Melborne directly we landed. We had taken
some provision. with no from the Osprey and some canvas
to make • tent.
lamination rimmed—About how many of the Osprey's
crew went ashore with the captain t
Witness: Your. I never saw them afterwards. The
Osprey lay about five or six hundred yards oft the Sandridge
shore.
A Jame—What number of men belonged toelbe Osprey?
Wit : Fifteen, all told—lncluding the untidy,
Were they all English?—(s ; they were mixed.
lamination resumed : One of the Brlia's crew was nick-
s:mimed "the doctor "—I don't know for certain, but I think
his properysame wan Douglas. I parted with Me two Bella men
at Ballarat, ten months afterwards and hen never seen
then since. I have been sines this in several ship,. I Came to
London on thebth of July, this year. InewCaptsin Beannett In
Mei, during the time of the war between the Southerners and
Northerners. I saw him in New York. I heard that be got
killed. In consequence of what I heard I thought It would
be strange If anything should turn up through these men,
and I tried to dad the Defendant, but maid not find him
out till two days after I came to London. I had a conversation
with him on Monday, the 7th of Jely. I went to No 94, sad
asked if there was • gentleman living there who went by
the name of the Claimant. The woman who opened the
door asked me what I wanted, and I mild I should like to
see hlm. She referred we to Poets' Corner, where! met Mr.
Hendricks and Mr. O'Brien, who took down my statement.
Then Mr Whalley came in, and he took me with him in •
cab, with Mr. 0' rlensoweU,to No. SI. I came into She
Defendant's room, I and Mr. Whalley and Kr. O'Brien.
lie was sitting by the window resting his leg on the window,
and when I saw him lus said in Swish, "How do you do,
Loular I had not given my name to Kr. Hendricks? I had
not seen the defendant before. I did not remember the man.
I knew the men's voice. We talked &bud things. I did not
know him at first till he opened the speech.
What conversation took place ?—We had different con-
versations. I got very grieved, and telt for the man.
The Lord Chief Justice: You ray he conversed In
Spanish?
Witness : Yes ; jut ai we used to talk on board the
Osprey. He conversed in Spaniels and Mulish.
Mr. 'natio, Mellor Was Ole In the prison°, of Mr.
Whelk)?
Witness Yee, and Mr. Whalley understands Spanish

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was that muds to windward that we amid not Wm it UP on
that tack. We ran down so tar that we Gould get held at ' --werdsh I
her on the next Wok, and by doing that we had pared the Witness: lien
Was the hulk of the conversation in Spanish /—No ; the
boat on our quite'. At that time they put up •VW With • Wilk of It wee In English.
red signal on M. A red shirt it turned out So be.
About how far was the boat off when you first Raw her?— When yen talked Spanish was It entirely Spanish 7—Yes
She was to Windward about two miles except when we got short of cords, and then We used
The Lord Chief Justice: Haw far eff when she made the gaier.
signal with the red shirt? - lime Kenfaly : Dii you ash him any questions?
Witness: We had than paused her eaten some distance. Witness: Yes. I asked him about the misfortunes he bad
t daresay It was about two mites. been In.
Then you left her astern two rode 7—Yes. The Lord Chief Justice : What misfortunes /
By Mr. Emmen : I think the Osprey was about 19 dig. 20 Witness : I mean what be had been doing after we lett
Wit south latitude, or about 400 or 500 mew. wha% him at Melbourne.
first Y. MS beat, I should Meek. When we were be. %mealy : What dal he say?
to take her on the next took, we pat about, and get UP to Witness: He would not keep up too much 'conversation
Wm We fund six men in the boat, with me. He said he would not be allowed to have much
that I should not be allowed to ell long with him. So he
Mon except two, who were puddling towards es.
What condition were they la /--All In • delirious condi. conversation with me. or any of tho people he knew, and
You mean with some eon In the boat I—TN. went sway.
.. u Who do you say he Ist—He is Rogers.
The Lord Chief Jostles —When you say "puddling, 10 Do you recognise him by anything in his features or walk?
bean ..' rowing ? "
—Oh, yes. When I went close up to him I felt for the cut on
Witness: Yes; It is the seine thing
By Mr. Kenealy.—When we picked them up It was very his neck, and that was perfectly correct.
hot. Is there anything else you recognise his by f.—Yee ;by his
What were these four doing whom you say were de- feature&
lithos /—They were lying down in We boat and stretching Do you mom the maw. annarnity —Yes: the mama in
their legs under the seats. suer&
Were they able to mom 7--Thel did net know anything Yon saw him every day toe three months on board the
about their own ver—they were entirely insensible 'hip 7—Yee.
se ey
Had they any food in the boat I—They had a brisket half Haysyou • good recollection of hlsti/—Yes.
full of ship's biscuits which were soaked with salt water. And yawn/ he la the mune man /—Yes.
Anything sloe I—No :exespt We clothes they had en this.. Creme-examined by Mr. Hawkins :1 neat saw the defendant
Had they any froth water 7—No' I should think that they on the 711. July last. He knew me directly he saw me, and
Iliad had bulb water in that bucket originally. I isaw no other called 120 by name. Lute tithe only name that lam knows
vessel in which they could have had weber.
....,_ ~.___ by. lam lieleg at No. 11, Churcthard.row, Newington-
Were tiny taken on board the Osprey 7—Yee, we took ea..? butts. I have lived there since the 7th July. Mr. Faleyn Is
un h 7 roPea the occupier. Bela an independent gentleman.
The Lord Chief Justice : What do you mean by ropes/
Witness : Well, (sewed the rope round them and hauled Mr. Hawkins :Ishe a bill-sticker / (Laughter.)
hem over the sides. Witness: I don't know. It Is a One house, and I have a
Did all six come up by ropes? bedroom. I take my meals with the family. I live on my
A Juror : What sort of • beat was it? Own means. 1 have made no arrangements for paying. I
Witness : Well, It was up a Ghee boat; built was can't pay until I leave. I have offered to pay, but the gentie •
not a whale boat. IS was ant Porn like a jolly Pat, man will not settle lip until after the trial is over. lam to pay
gentleman.. (Miir.. !intern) at Poets' corner. The gentleman says
She had • sharp stem and stern. 80e, a week for my board and 10a form, lodgings. I 1106 abs
to mettlesshen the trial is over.? first met Pal
es a °ones-shop at Hyde Yarir.cornm. On Sunday I went
, the 7th. Jelly, I slope
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hiwataaaawgiorgr:il:paaaaaonint:a—a"manixtgonoureohaoo:of ILI:dot It will
Os
ihitiirda
highsayn
sad remained in the street. Mr. Whalley and a number
...ranted tn bk. to Brighten On Sunday night I could not get a bed,
0... t gentlemen were at Poe tai-oorner, but I can't my If Mr.
by the way he bad. Ile was one of the four who were
on
tib'en".dier.myHeatwteseatin"otn awe:hit...era.
Ictelte_Gne of them in
....„, B.annatt as" vuesow was mere. I don't know a gentleman called June
supplied them with toed. Then Cli"'"" _taw tha by name. Mr. Hendrick introduced me to Pule He
insensible We washed them—all of them—end then we
Pa
me orders to take one of them—a young Man __,._., __,„ ~ had .
cabin. It was the one who was not a sailor. I was told to ree° m,i° i_i 1,. am el? my mind to stay to We Mr.
hi the sofa but instead of doing that I put him aPllere eider r •
piece mon e ,said, "Yes," 'thit I must gets lodging. Mr.
into my own berth, and there I kept him all the time until .
Hendrick asked Puleyn if he could accommodate me, and
he replied in the aßirmative. No arrangement was then
our arrival In Melbourne—about three months. We arrived
made for Payment. Pule n took •to have din
there w the early pert of July. I noticed a good deal about
__,,,ho ho
oho
in
sho y m !my at an
Ibis young man. I had towash him nearly every day during ..." afternoon I went with him to his
reedenee. i had seen the defendant before I a• 44 4111. Pal I
the whole voyage. I noticed that he had email hands, and
have been doing nothing for
my livin in London but
be was a smaitmade man, not very bony. I think he was . .
iii g
lohhi g ,
have gone up and own w m. I have been to several
about my height musitrhalls and theatres with him; I have also beau be
The Lord Chief Just 05 : What is that? ecveral places with the defendant. The defendant and
Witness: I don't know (laughter) He had dark brown ~. ,o o have had
hair, d had dark, big eyebrows. Its had a habit of raising r '
,So 0 y engagements ; I mean at meetings in
his forehead and his eyes. His convememmi with me was different parts of the country. Prawn managed some of the
meetings. I bare been to eight er ten meetings. I have been
generally in Spaniel, and some French. to mat of the defendant's wealth/Seines the 7th of July. Upon
Which most 7—The oenversation wa mostly to Eidglish. 00 occasion was Whaney or (endow present. My name WM
Which ?—ile used to talk with me In Spanish end broken never mentioned at any of the meetings. Nobody knew me,
bench; but when talking to others, in English. and I was never referred loin the speeches. I never spoke at
What do you mean by broken French I—lie used to mix up meetings. I fire met Captain Brown since II arrived In
English and Spanish with it ? .._, London at Poeti-corner last week. I sever went to Wap.
Mr. Justice Melee: When he spoke to the captain mem, ping. I Oral saw Brown at Rio. At Poeta'. corner I saw
tallow's. did he use? him in the presenea of a clerk and Cline. I did not know Olbw,
Witness : English. bathe knew me. I never mentioned the name of Captain Brown
The Lord End Justice : What language aid the "Ptah, before lad week. I knew Brown In 18611 at Rio as a water clerk
pest? to • ship's chandler when we were trading with the Osprey be.
witness: English. tween Monte Video, BaneosAytes,and Rio. We arrived at New
What countryman was he I—A NOOIOI4SI : his MUM was York in January, 1854. I saw Brown very often on board at
Gannett. Rio, and we used to give him coffee and sometbnee dthmer.
Mr. genualy : Did the Widen Wall Iteitheh with any He oame for orders I knew from the men that the Bella bad
Kent? wiled from /tie in April, 1854 I never knew Roger Tlclesonte.
Witness : As foreigners will speak. I only knew the defendant as Bogen. I came to &wised from
The Lord Chief Justice : Very well. He was • Norwegian Ostend. I had family business there. I came from Lake
and svise English with a foreign Gwent. Michigan to Ostend. privlag there Is the first week in June
Mr. Kenealy : Was We young man suffering from any. last. I never intruded income to Ragland, and hoped to get a
thing. cheap Ora free passage back from Ostend to America. When
Witness: Ile was suffering from delirium all the Wawa He I mine to London I had not a notion *bout giving evidence
- 'eine: . at this trial. _ Before then I had never heard of the Tick-
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borne ease. I arrived at London Bridge about eight on
Saturday night, the 6th of Jtsly, and Intended to go to the
Sailors' Home. The first thing I heard was shoot the nth-
borne trial. It was In • public-hots* near the Senors Horne.
Ido not know who was there. I heard there that a man
bad put himself up as an impostor named Tlchborne. Some
one said his .rune wee SD Boger Tlohb)rne, but that the real
man was drowned on board the Bella I said to myeelf, "if
he la the young man who was on board our ship I itiCiald
like to see him." That was my first introduction to ihe
Ilchborne use. (Laughter.) I at once went up tower&
Hyde-park because I was told ha lived la that neigh bouzhood
I would have gone 100 mile, to find the man out. lb.. only
address given or. was the Wistextd.
The Lord Cale Justice : Do you mean that with only that
Indefinite address, you went to find him out at that hour of
the night I—Yee ; but I know nothing of London.
Cross-examination continued: I do not know the name of
the coffee house I slept at. It was opposite the gates of the
park, and had roast (owlets: the window. (Laughter) I did
not pursue my search for Sic Boger on Sunday because I
000ld not !run where he was lien g, and I went to Brighton.
I saw • lot of people going there, and I thought I might as
veil go nosed. I went in soak, and I impaired of the cubman
where the Claimant lived, and he did sot know. I want to
Bright n about eight Ira tbe mornlng and retuned about
twelve at night. I walked aboat Inquiring where the Claimant
wu living until Ova &lock in the morning. (laughter) At
hut I went Into a coffee-honse in the Vauxhall-road. I
beard the word Claimant tuerlib the train and also In
Brighton. A cabman In Was caffee.houte told me where be
lived, at i I went there between six and seven In the morn-
ing. A lady told me I could rot see the gentleman, and
must go to Poetic Inst. I went there at eight ~'clock, but
the office •••• not open. I waited, end the first penion I raw
was Ilendelck's I lvi him m, ninny. rElitinn ook Own
n y nt it —tint rn nito) o: my ',IL VI. .1 I a:6IAL:
the paw. I then went away to get some refreshment I
was away for an hour, and on returning I did not,.. the de
feudant, as he had left far ahe court. I remained In com-
pany with O'Brien. Ido not know why he kept me there in-
stead of letting me come at once to see the defendant. I saw
Whalley, and also meld him my story. That was when we
were driving in the orb In en n•equence of my story he
went to America to make inquiries. I gave him ths name,
of Andre-non and Harry, and also the names or the brokers
of the Chprey of the stevedore (Thompson'. who put the
cargo into the ()weep ; sad of the 'hipping master Burton)
nde him Ceptetu licannett was the principal owner,
and that the other owner was Baron Faikenharg. I told
him that Andennm kept a grog-shop at Nharteenthatteet,
Brooklyn, and that Contain Bunnell lived at the " Scandles.
vial) " Hotel, New York. I gave hlm other addresses,. and told
. .

hint what the c srgo of the eprey mut He never naked ms
I had made any eutry In the log There was • log. It
was not my business to keep it. Bill Watermen, • New York
men, wee the mate. He woo the brother of Captain Charles
Waterman. Whalley went to Americo in &bout • fortnight
alter I gave him this information I told him that after the
nem e of the ship was changed to the Oxprey she bailed from New
Bedford. The captain told me so. Her name was only
painted on the quarters. She had no mime on the stem.
There was nowt& re about her the name of Baltimore. Her
register, I believe was at New Jersey. Her length was 140
feet When Wtuley came bark I only ewe him (ore minute
or no. He did not show me the log. I have not seen& single
one of the individuals whose names I gave hint
Have you seen a stasis Individual who can corroborate •
syllable of your story 7—No ; the attorney would not allow
me hoses a single person connected_. with to. Osprey, have

expressed a dears-to see them' and have been told I moat
not see thea lukedtu see the pilot who took the o.ess
Into Melbourne I have beget told In the office he Is In ins.
land. Harding and Harcourt said I should see no one eon-
mated with the Osprey. I Irst asked about the pilot a week
ago. Ido not know Ws name. I ham been told there are a
good many connected with the Osprey in England, but I
do not know In what way. They would not tell who they
are. I don't know whether Whalley brought anybody back.
The reason given for not letting me see the others was
that it should not be sold we had talked t00..` -- and ov--
_ _ _

_—od toielher 10-1
• p • conrlrtcy..nen 1 et. Captain Erntra he said, "Bow
not'

-
do you do, Lewis? • I did kno;r—Binir, but he Bald,
" You often gave me aft°. and dinner at Rio," and then I
recollected hint Puleyn is living on his own means. I have
paid my own travelling expeoses in going to the meetings.
The only promise I have received is that my pusses back to
America shall be paid. At home I follow my occupation of
ate awed. The first time I saw the Osprey was in 1t,51 She
had • fiddle figure-Wed and no bird. (The witness here gave
I description of the Tease.) We had no passenger& I am
sure of that. The last port we left was Staten
Island, and we touched nowhere before we arrived at
Melbourne. We spoke to several vessel; but I can't
give the name of one of them. We left the island at the
end of February. The captain's name was John Beannett, and
nothing else. William Waterman was mate, and he joined
at the inland. The previous mate was Lawrence. Barry
wee the second mate. One of the men wan call d James. I
have no memoranda about this affair. I had never written
down any account of the occarrence in my life, and I never
mentioned it until the 7th of last July. That waa for •
period of nineteen yews. We talked about it at Ballarat. I
tbiuk we crawled the Rue at 40 west leogitu ie. We
peeked up the boat between 10 and 20 south latitude, We
were about 400 miles from the road of the Brasile.
We made no Opal to the boat. I distinctly remem-
ber the red shirt. I only remember the names of Jarvis
and Lewis among the men belonging to the Bells. The other
four men were quite insanalbis when we an. to the boat.
About an hour after we saw the boat we got the men on board.
After Mr. Bogen had new washed I took him to my berth,
e_ g
Salt-water

which was on deck He and ell tile men had _
Meters. I &ere la the pantry. I don't remember whether
the captain paid him a Malt. H. did not make his
appearanse on deck for shout • week. I &damned with
him every day. He answered some questions. He came on
deck regularly every day after the Ore week. When the
morale come on he was wonderfully frightened, and we were
afraid he was going to throw himself overboard. Re Dever
dined with the reptaiss. The delbiam never pawed away.
He was never clear In his head.
To Mr. Justice Mellor : He had cabin food. We had no
lime juice, and we gave him vinegar. Ile sometimes drank
ram. I often made him drunk.
To the Lord Chief Justice: I mean that. I made him drunk
to get him to sleep. (Laughter.)
By Mr. Justice Lush INTO, saw the Bella.
Mitoses : Mr. Rogers preferred speaking Spanish to me,
and in July he addressed me In Spaniel, and occasionally
used Spanish and French wordr. lie now speaks very good
French. Mr. Wealley beard us. (Witness appealed to Mr.
Whalley who was littlng by the aide of the defendaat I
Mr. Hawk no : I should wafer asking Mae when he Is in
the wituesebox.
Witham : lie told me his name was Rogers, and that
ha was an Zugllshman. I never asked him any par-
ticulars of his life. I had nothing for my attendance on
him. Hs had nothing to give. Be left the ship in my
clothe.. The picking up of the men and the description of
the shipwreck ought to have been entered In the /0/.
asked no particulars about the ship. As fax as I know,
Ii should have been entered in the log-book 20 years
ago. The log-books were not preserved and given up to
the owners. 1 never recollect entries made in the log-book
being read out to the men. The defendant's voles is rougher
than tic. Rogan'. He recess choked up lathe voice. I saw
Mr. Rogers many times nak"l, lie had long vaccination
mark. on his arms. I don't remember any scar on the mea—
n is imposeble I should remember, having seen so many
hundreds of wen since. Inside Me arm was • mark like
• said from hot water. The brown mark was a good
inch long, and the width of the finger. I don't say Nln
a brown mark. It was olive colons. It was above the
hip, and between the hip and the backbone. I have
washed his hands. I don't remember if he had • p•ou.
Rarity about the left thumb (after examining it).
Whoever would thick of looking at such a thing as that
(laud ter) I have heard It talked about, and road It
In the papery. Brown had not talked to me about it I
wag asked in Mr. liarcoort's nth*, but I have no recol-
lection of It. I have talked over matters with Puleon. I
have not read the defendants own account of the shipwreck
and Ids being poked up by the Osprey. I near before God
and man that 1 never had the curiosity to aak the defendant
about the shipwreck. (Applause)
The Lord Chief Justice: If I hear such a disgritoeful thing
I will have the court cleared. It la not a theatre or • public
meeting.
Witness: There was no passesigers on board the Osprey
when the defendant was picked up.
By a Juryman: I can't say It be were • ring on Malinger.
have no knowledge about It If he Ind he must have
taken it off. I have beet baked several Cram by the de-
fendant's solicitor abone his wearing • ring. I can't re.
member it. I have not been asked If • cheque was given to
the captain I mentioned the mark on the side without
being asked. The beads of the rosary were dark brown,
and there WSB • silver cross attached to it—a IMP better
than an inch long. I could see and feel the cat on the
hape of the neck. I think that nth his legs were
cri.Oked. I have • distinct recollection of his walk. I
hi,, not been asked to notice his wan-41 is the same:
but he is totally cheesed In the body. Hill shoulders are
lot chana.ed I don't see any change in the colour of his
his hair cute, short as I could. I also noomilse
all his The cheeks are now a little swollen out. I
fleirmp:
ire
ee, no emerehee
.fri the nose. The more I look at the mon
the more Inecogu Ms features. I can't say how much
He used le cut slots, what the
oakum the defendant :Aditld • Say tor amusement. Some.
llmes he dld' sot pica
sad he read "The Garden Of Ll*
sAmer!caan call z;:„
Soul" in Neenah. He got daliiik moat of his time, picked
oakum, and read "The Garden cs!the_llohl " for amusement
&whit the three months he wee one war% llellthierl. RIB
countenance wee suabtunt.