The Stourbridge Observer, Cradley Heath, Halesowen & District Chronicle.
Stourbridge, West Midlands, England, 1874-07-18 00:00:00

PHIVATS SCHOOLS.

Mr. Locke asked the Vice-President of the Council what
Instructions were given to the °Mee» of the school Boards
with regard to private adventure schools ; and whether they
had authority (as recently stated) to threaten the proprietors
of such schools, and inform them that they must raise their
terms and pass an examination or close their schools.
Lord Sandon was not surprised at the question being asked.
The Education Department had not issued such instructiona,
which had been sent out by tile School Boards themselves.

THE FLYING MAN.

Mr. Welby w.ked the Home Secretary whether his atten-
tion had been called to the death in Chelsea, through being
cut away from a balloon of one De Groot, kwown a. " the
Flying Man "and whether he would take steps effectually
to prevent such dangerous exhibitions for the future.
Mr Cross said the Home Office had not been in the habit of
Interfering in matters of this !dna except in those cases where
persons bad too,, engaired who nnuld ma help thon.selvea Ho
mi,;ht mention one special case, where the Home office Inter-
fered to prevent 13Iondin from carrying his child across a rope.
In this case the gentleman so unfortunately killed wita able to
take care of himself. At the present moment the whole
matter was under consideration before a coroner's court,
and before that tribunal canoe to a decision it would not be
right for bin, to make any statement as to what the Home
Office intended to do in these matters.

ENDOWED SCHOOLS ACT AMENDMENT BILL.
Lord Sandion, in moving the Second Reading of the En-
dowed Schools Act Amendment Bill, began his speech by
tracing the history of the question from the appointment
of Lord Clarendon's Commission to the passing of the
bill in 1869, and read various extracts from the speeches
of Lord Ripon and Mr. Forster to show that the
Endowed Schools Commission was represented then as a
temporary Commission, that the good schools " were
assured they would not he interfered with, and that the main
design of the founder would be respected, to whatever de-
nomination they might belong In short, everything had
been done to disarm the suspicions of the country. Then
be showed how the action of the Commission had falsified
those expectations, and referred to the evidence given before
last year's Committee and to the debate on the Continuance
Bill to prove that nobody approved the Commission, that it
virtuall7 '' slain ' " * ' of

was ....Lually ied chiefly by the coldness
Mr. Forster and the Liberal Party, and by the inevitable
force of a hostile public opinion Moreover, judging
from the progress the Conirnh.sion had already made
in dealing with Edu,ational Endowments it would require
twenty-five years longer to complete its work and the hosti-
lity which it had .n created atug the Trustexs and in the
. .

ADULTERATION OF FOOD. aty which it nau trees. ..- es -
country..n,lo nest generallyex ~ nreldteh thee
venous
eri n
Commission,
f ;turns Vtit: g.ilt. e
.Ltoorad
In the Horse or Coestorts, Mr. R. Hill asked the Presi-
dent of the Board of Trade whether it was probable that '
such as the creation o a new and the aluorp-
be would he able to bring in a bill dudng the ereseut
tion of Its duties in the Education Department , and in
session to give effect to the recommendations contained in
suds ail the decisitm of the Oovernmelit to vest the
She report of the committee on adulteration of food. Dowers of the Commission in the Charity Commissioner.,
Mr. Relater-Booth gaid it would be impossible for the he mentioned mons. other reasons, their experience in this
Gowen:emend to legislate upon such a subject at this period kind of work, and the growing confidence which they
of the Belden. had inspired in the Nonconformist bodies. It was in-
THE FOREIGN CATTLE TRADE, tended to increase the number of Charity Commissioner.
Sir T. Baxley asked the Vice-President of the Council to tire, by filling up a vacancy which at present
whether it was true that live cattle imported from Brittany existed, and by the appointment of two new Commis-
and Normandy into Southampton were not permitted to be stoners for a term of five ) ears, and also to appoint
forwarded to London ; and, if so, what was the wound for such a number of Assistant Commissioners as would enable
this restriction on the foreign cattle trade ;.d whether the the Commissiont rs to map out the whole of the country, and
Government had any reason to believe that there was now to finish the work in five sears. Finally, he expleined the
any cattle plague in Brittany and Normandy. changes which the bill makes in the law in the interests of
Lord Sandon said it was true that the cattle imported from religious education, and the mode in which it proposed that
the founder's wishes strait be ascertained. Ile admitted
Normandy into Southampton were not allowed to come to !
London until fourteen days' quarantine The same regula- ! that the two sides of the House must differ very materially
lions applied to several other ports in Italy and in France. , on some points of the bill, het he held that in taking
There was no reason to believe the cattle plague existed in security for religious 'education in the Endowed Schools the
either Brittany or Normandy. . Government were acting In conformity with public opinion,
and that they were going the shortest way to rekindle the
THE STATE OF THE PUBLIC BUSINESS. interest of the country in this set ject, which had been rudely
Mr Disraeli : I promised the House on Friday that in the shocked by the Endowed Schools Commission.
interval between that day and this l would consider the state Mr. Forster moved the rejection of the bill, which he
of the public business in regard to Its probable progress, and characterized as retrograde and as unfair. Its changes of
also in reference Oct only to Government meaeures, but to policy were unwise and unjust, its changes in administration
measures not introduced by the Government in whish the unnecessary and inexpedient l'nder the first head he argued
House takes great interest. Ido not know that there is that the clause which recognized as evidence of the founder s
any matelial fact to remark upon with respect to the pro- intention a direction to send the children to church and to
gramme which I conveyed to the House about a fortnight =unit its rules to the Bishop or other ecclesiastical ofilcial,
ago. There are three bills of importauce which have not without any limitutton as to the date of the Tolera-
been read a second time, and which it is necessary, if Tweet- tion Act, would practically hand over to the Church and
Me, to pass—namely, the Scotch Patronage Bill, the Endowed to the control of Churchmen numerous Schools which
Schools Bill, and the Dollen Council Bill. The bills respec- • were intended for the nation at large. In illustration of the
this judicator° and land have all been read a second time. unfairness of this proposal, Mr. Forster pointed out that of
and 1 believe there are other bills of some interest which 1,082 Grammar Schools 584 were founded before the Toleration
have been read a second time, and which are not supposed Act, 35 were pre-Refomation Schools, and 44 were founded
to oeetipy much time in committee. It is believed thirst on during the Commonwealth. But where was this policy to
Monday we shall be able to finishComMitteed Supplyand also , end! The arguments by which this part of the bill was sup-
the Indian Budget, which I hope will be brought forward under ! ported would apply with more force to the repeal of the
circumstances which will ensue for it a full and attentive i University Tests Act Without pretending to say that the
consideration. So far as loan judge, all this business may be ! Commisaioners had acted with psrfect discretion in every
transacted by the House generously entrusting the Govern- ease, Mr. Forster warmly eulogized their general services in
went with complete control of the remainder of the time of the cause of education, pointing out that only ten of their
the session. I think we may bring all these measures to • schemes had been chalk, ged in Parliament, and that in
close, and be able to advise her Majesty to prorogue Parlisi numerous cases they had acted in cordial co-operation with
went about the sth of August. The House will utiderstand the Trustees. The Charity C. nuniesioners, Mr. Forster held,
that tide is an estimate made upon the =eruption that the having for the most part judicial functions, were not fitted
Government have the entire control iif the time that re- for adininistrative duties, and were, as it was, overworked ;
easing, but the House is aware that all these calculations and the proposed arrangements, he contendtd, would
and estimates are subject to be influenced by what I diminish the responsibility of the Education Department.
may call supervening circumstances. Although we are Above all, the House ought to know how many schoola the
In full possession of the time of the House, and can guard new test of denominationalism was to apply to.
against any motion or any bill by availing ourselves of the
privileges intrusted to us yet other circumstances might After remarks from several other hon members,
arise which might materially alter our proceedings. Of Mr. Cross maintained that this bill was a legacy inherited
course it is quite clear that being in possession by the . from the late Government, which had felt compelled to lhnit
generous confidence of the House of the time of the House ! the existence of the Commihion to a year, so unpopular had
hon, members having relinquished their own partial con, 1 it become by its systematic violation of the spirit of the Act
raand over that time it would be unfair on tier part to , which created R. The practical question the elinverirment
prevent a matter coming on in which the House ' had to decide was how it should be replaced, and he argued
generally took great interest. That was the feeling of . that the selection of the Charity Commiseioners was the
the Government when the Public Worship Bill was wisest under the circumstances. The principle of the hill
Introduced, or rather sent down to this House from ' WAS identical with the principle of Mr. Forster's Act, and by
the House of Lords. It was introduced into the I re-asserting it now the House would breathes new life into
Howie of Lords upon the highest authority, and passed ; the educational institutions which had been shaken by the
almost unanimously. Her Majesty's Government, therefore, 1 action of the Commission.
felt the propriety of giving up a day to the right hon. the Mr. Gladstone animadverted first on the
,one of unmerited
B.ecorder Mr the purpose of bringing forward that meaaure. censure tu which Lord Sandoz' had spoken of the Com-
I should have been happy if the debate could have closed M i minion, and which he maintained was unusual from a
ewe Kitting, and if the discussions on the secomt reading I member of the Executive in regard to members of a Com-
bed ouiy oecupied one night. But I was disappointed in that i mission. Replying to Mr. Cross be pointed out that the
erpectation, notwithstauding that the hon member for the ! limitation to one year was the net not int the Government,
University ot Cs.mbrioge did speak at great length at a late , but d the Howe d Lords, iind he essorted emphatically
hour, sad Uhie example had been followed, the debate might ! Wit the Commiseion had acted end, ely in the spirit
have concluded I quite agree that if the Govermuent gave of the Act d I**, and it was now to be dismissed
an opportunity to bring forsvard a bill they . ught ales to or its fidelity to Then, miticisheg the transfer of
give an opportunity to take a decided vote upon that its powers to the C.harity Cotnmissi.iners, he dwelt on the
meseure, and I therefore earn a opinion that it is Cro duty, • anomalies and inconvenienees which would arise from the
under these circumstanees, to *cure to the learned fart that the Viee-President was a Charity Com... Miler
Recorder an opportunity ol t tking the opinion of the House j and migld take part in the formation of ea-Wield schemes,
upon the second reading of the MIL But since that eecond and he insisted that before going further with this
reading was moved, and during the emu= of debate upi no it, experiment d " unddeig legiMation," the House had a
altered circumstances have arson. The right h. n. gentle- . right to khow how far it was to be carried. Was
man, the leader of the opposition, favoured the liouse with lit to be applied to the University Testa Act,
his opinion atter a too long and mueh regretted.abeencei ' where the title of the Church was stronger than in
and he not only favoured us with his opinion, bu
I regard to the Grammar Schools ? Mr. Gladstone opponent the
he took that opportunity of favouring us w'm„s, I bill rig =equitable, unuseal, and unwise. Underthe first head
what be considered to be a solution of the question, i he maintained that the Church had no title to the
by himself himself introducing
thea measure that is to say, i ments herstowed on her between 1530 and 1660—when no man
be placed on the table of the House what he i could live outside her pale ; and w her title wane in no way
stated it was his intention to move, and which affected i
I e f act that the founder had directed
hags of the very potent question to which the Public Wor- I Church instruct strengthened by,
thon to be given to the children. The bill
ship Regulation Bill refer, I. have silthose resolutions t
! was unusual, beanie tt was the first attempt for
with the most anxious attentien, and I can arrive at but one i a century and a half to violate the fundamental principle of
concluelort and that is that they aim at the abolition of that . British legislation hitherto observed by bode parties—
religious settlement that has prevailed in this country for . ;Ma nutla retrorsum ; and it WAS unwhe, because it
more than two centutios, and upon which depend. much of
. ien'ilstht foster the opinion that the Church always struggled
our civil liberties. (Cheese) Under these circumstances. I to keep in her hands the pounds, shillings, and pence.
feel thit it is me duty, from the sense that I have of the great ,
danger of allowing such a measure to remaln undecided 1 Mr Hardy replied that, as to the unwisdom of the bill,
upon, that I wish to give the Hamm an opportunity of taking ! the Go vernmeet, of course, must hear the responsibility : but,
a decided vote upon it As yet I have not addressed the ash's the " unusuality," lie asked what would have become of
House upon this question myself, but I believe that if the ' the liberties of England if when she reverted from Romanism
resolutions of the right hon. gentleman are passed, they will , to Protestanism and from Republicanism to Monarchy, Par-
e new form and colour to English politics. Whatever i 'lament had been forbidden to go back on the act of its pre-
re e
ireffect may be, I can only ay that they will be met , decessors. As to the unworkable. diameter of the hill,
with an uncompromising opposition by her Majesty's Govern. ; Mr Hardy maintained that it did nothing more then
merit (cheered , amend sne of the clauses of the original Act, and only carried
a little further the principle of the Act passed last year by
31r. Si. Henry asked what course would be taken with re- ,
! Mr. Gladstone's Gnvernment By s
sant to the Irish MU which to on the paper ? i such as that foe W agreeing to a certain chemeakefield, for inetance—Mr. Gladstone, if
He Disraeli said he could make no engagement with re- , his theory as to Church endowments were correct, had cri-
sped to any bill whatever. ! operated In acts as unequitable as this bill which he now
vehemently condemned. As to the University Tests,
that was a matter which was closed, and berg. no
analogy to those schools, many of which had not yet 'been
deelt with. The Chsrity Comenisaloners, he believed, were
willing to undertake this duty, and Lord Sandon would not
exercise his right to sit at the Board. No disrespect was in-
tended to the Commissioners, but as they had unfortunately
made themselves unpopular with the country try their exe-
cution of the Ad the Government was compelled to allow
the Com.nission to expire.
The Division was then taken, and the Second Reading was
carried by a majority of 82-191 to 209.
ehe other Orders were disposed of, and the House adjourned
at a quarter to three o'clock.

CHURCH PATRONAGE (SCOTLAND) BILL.
The adjourned debate on the Church Patronage (Scotland)
Sill was resumed by
Dr. Cameron, who spoke In opposition to It, maintaining
that it would not lead to a reunion of the Churches, and
was rather designed to encourage desertion from the relive-
tory communities.
Sir It Anstruther delivered an animated speech in favour
of the bill, the principle of which—the abolitlim of Patronage
—had long been approved by the Scotch people and by the
Established Church Animadverting on the opposition to It,
he expressed his extreme surprise that the Liberal Party should
be " whipped to defeat this polity of abolition, and sharply
oriticiaed Mr. Gladstone's speech. The parallel drawn by Mr.
Gladstone between Roll and Sutherland and Munster and
Connaught had no foundation in truth, but gcutland hail a
right to know whether Mr Gladstone was for applying the
same remedy of Disestablishment ? If it was to be the role
In future that every Liberal must be a Dissenter, the Party,
Sir Robert redicted, would speedily be broken up. Though
at proving the principle, there were several amendments in
its details required, and especially the basis of the new
system ought to be widened if it was desired to lead to
Union.
Mr. Campbell-Bannennann regarded the bill as apolitical
move, and a scheme for the aggrandixemeot of the Church at
the expellee of the voluntary communities. fila agreed with
those who predicted that it would end in Disestablishment,
and contained no elements of union
Mr Balfour supported the bill, asserting, with regard to
tbe opposition to it, that no sect coll'id have a vested interest
Ins the abuses of another sect. Mr. Fordyce supported the
bill because It was asked for by the Church, though, per-
tonally, he should have preferred that the question should
. not be mooted now.
Mr. li'Laren and Mr. R. NV. Duff opposed the hill. smut Mr
Montgornerie and Mr. Vans Agnew spoke in favour of it
while Colonel More criticised its details.
Mr liorsman blamed the Government for its inadequate
treatment of the question, nod maintainid that if it were
necessary to disturb the present state of things there was
no alternative but reconstruction or disestablishment Me
examined the bill In detail, pronouncing it to he confiscation
to the patron, disfranchisement to the parishioner, and
funded On an entire misiipprehension of the eeelesinatical
history, condition, and opiniocs of Scotland and he pre-
dicted that it would be as gold a failure as the policy of
-1943 To niake the bill etricimit awl acceptable, the members
of other Presbyterian conimunitics must he included io the
sionstituencies, and all Presbyterian ministers fool licentiates
should be eligible as candidates.
Mr. Hardy, in summing up the debate, justified tho
measure by the fact that the abolition of Patronage was
unanimously desired by the Clergy and Laity of the Church,
and that the great Free Church authority, Dr. Chalmers bad
declared it to be the one thing needed to restore religious union
In Scotland. Moreover, at the time of the secession, it was not
the Church which desired to retain patronage, but the State
which ref sued her permission to get rid of It, rind the mode by
which the right of presentation was now to he exercised was
more in accordance with the old practice of the Church than
any other mode which could be suggested. Mr, nerdy re-
phed riatani to Mr. llorsman's criticisms of the details of
the bill, and expressed hie belief that if not now, at least
In the new generation, the bill would lead to a religioua

THE ENDOWED SCHOOLS BILL.
In the Horse OF GODSONS, July 15, Mr. Fawcett gave
notice that on the order for going into Committee on the
Endowed Schools Bill, he would move, 'That in the opinion
of this House it is expedient to sanction a measure which
would place under the control of one religious body schools
that were thrown open to the whole nation by the last
parliament."
THE SUSPENSION OF THE STANDING ORDERS,
moving that the orders of the dakbe post-

Mr. Disraeli, in tii-c the ,
tinned until after the order for the adjourned debate on the
second reading of the Public Worship Regulation Rill,
bologised to the House for the course he proposed to take,

but thought the state of public bUsiness jostifled it It WAS
said that this was an interference with the right of private
members, but he would remind the House that it was taken
with respect to the bill of a private member.
Mr. Knatchbull-Hugessen did not rise in factious opposi-
tion to the course proposed, which he had no doubt had been
adopted after due consideration, and in accordance with
what the Prime Minister considered the wishes of the House.
At the cause time, however, he wished to enter a protest
' to consider was