The Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1860-10-04 00:00:00

lance any salaries in the pay of the Corporation proper
! rOVision had been held. He moved, as an amend-
meat, ttLe tlte rebbniinendationbe referred back.
Mr. BEcitvitrii sßiintled the amendment, which was
alSo supported by
Mr. Nicxsori—That, he said; -gaff fife la:sf monthly
meeting of the Council ; and if they pissed' flinSe
commendations, they should have increased salaries n-1Y
wards of £1,200 last year.
Alderman WoonnerF—Mr. Jeffery says we are going
to have a revision of salaries. By whom ?
Mr, JEFFERY—By this Council. The Finance Com-
mittee promised it two years ago.
Alderman Vornlßtinr—Are they ? (" No, no," and
laughter.)' I wanted to know who the " we" were.
Mr. STEWART repeated ihnt the salaries would be paip
b'Y ttS" Tleastiry;! and; oif Ur, Jeffery withdrew
the airienttoient,
The motion Was' then agreed to:`
Mr. STEWART theft antbilhEed tliaE the sedonit re-
commendation for increasing die' Salafibs of Mr. FOole
and Mr. Robinson would have to stand oVeifei'a•mbtith,
pursuant to standing orders. Mr. Stewart aaid'-ih
to the corporate income, the report had been
read, and every possible attention had been paid to it,
and he did not know that he had anything further to
sal 461 i it: Mr. Stewart briefly explained the obtects
of. the it/M.4164c1/ was to the effect that the coin-
' mlttiee would' hale AA/ powers of dealing with the
corporate estate: The' teptt Was a most important one,
and as.atitch' he' WoUld tint pre'es rite adoption, without
the Cott&;it Wiishedit, off thn pi'eeent ocCasiott
Mr. JErrtuf WiWiecl` knOW what Would lie the
effect if the report waa Atopted'ili ileteionce to' the next
two orders on the paper?
Mr. STEWART did not think !tee are' th at all
bearing upon the other. That, hoWevd, *eV a nitre
matter of opinion.
Mr. STirr thought it would be most desirable that
the (Sarisiderittion of a report of such importance should
be dilly and properly considered ; as such could not be
the case if, a distinsion was taken upon it at that meet-
ing,' he hoped that the' committee would have it
printed, and' plabed in the bad& of every member of
the Council, heshouldniete 6'4 its! considera-
1, therefore

tion be postp9ned for .a month.
Me. l'itfAJE seconded , the proposition, and he did so
because the fepocti &arty refprred to' a most important
subject. It did not allude to' the &vines, for the past
year, but it told them how they vfere to' deal With the
finances for the future. He would ask what they Were
going to do with their £lOO,OOO, surplus capital It
was a most important subject for the consideration of
the town.

The Moon understood Mr. Stewart to say that he
did riot Wish to pros 9 the consideration of the report
tipciii ibis Ineetinir,:
Mr. SirnifAti sdid lie lied not the slightest objection
to have the discussion iio'dirdrted.
It was then decided that the for it/oration of the
report should be postponed for a month.
In answer to a question put by Mr. Jeffery,
Mf: Si.titAnT said he had been asked whether the
relidff, rkldtife ftt ttg.d Birkenhead property would form
part of the firUcliedirigs• gild Wad be confirmed if the
general p.rdceefiinoeis llie tiOniniittee iVera, He would
tell the Cohncil that they wefeydfi of fitv Itroceedi9gs,
riot the slighted ohjectimi it) tlldt AV being
d iiailoita, lie 3W401 pierely tell them that thatfooft
entirely reldidcl to' the plkhag of the lane at the At,
kenhead docks. In the Poittlialsrule o the• dqeks there
was other property, some of it held undeitlie Blik.enbead
Commissioners, who were the owners in trtist !of that
portion of the property which extended from Cathcart,
street to the end of the pool on the river side.
Mr. JEFFERY said he had understood that it was
agreed that the discussion on this report was• to be
postponed. He did not wish to have two discussions
upon the subject, therefore if the discussion and con-
sidefatteWas riot to be taken then, he must object to
Mr. Stewart 614 g Met). the cluestbr-%
i
Mr. COOPER said the nforatiatiou I*. Stewart had
given was very valuable, and it Woill'cr k fire Condi
know exactly how to deal with the matter NVlltif it Was
brought up.
Mr. STEWART, in continuation, said all the land
referred to was on the south side of Cathcart-street, and
extended from there to the end of the pool. The pur-
chise of it amounted to £750,000. He was proceeding'
wit (4,oge farther remarks, when it was at once decided
that the ealiTeeolr a the whole motion should be
postponed.
Postponed accordingly. •
Mr. STEWART then moved the eiaiinthtiqtt of the
general proceedings of the committee_ , with the eiVep-
tion of the above two items, which was seconded and
carried,

THE NEW EVELIO OFFICES IN DALE-STREET.
Mr. JEFFERT wished to know what would become of
the nest two orders on the paper.
gel/oral voioss—" They will be postponed."
the two ofders 9,114ded to were as follow :—Report of
speeial committee to eolisider plans for new Public the
Officps, -street,. the e'onsicieration whereof was : post-
po'n' V W
ed tlie dolithly" defincil held iii Atigtsst last, until
after the coneligratfon or the report of the Finance
Committee, as to the Mode df dealing with the
annual income of the corporatioli.= TtePbrt of the
Improvement Committee, recommending' eerkin ilm
provements at a cost of £300,000, the consideration
whereof was postponed at the monthly council held
in August last, until after the consideration of the
above-mentioned report of the Finance Committee.
The consideration of these orders were also postponed
for the present.
iltt*krthr 03±:iirtrnE Ailn STREET TRAMWAYS.
The proceedingS of this committee were read, and the
only matter of public filtered referred to" therein, was
the sub-committee's report on tn'd Slt6et Tramways,
which has already been published in the .t.dily .flints,
•when that subject was lately discussed at the meeting of
the Health Committee, and the report was referred ck
for further consideration.
Mr. CLINT moved the confirmation of the proceedings.
Ffe said the only point to which he need allude, was the
report pro the subject of Street Tramways. Ho said
the seored ,teerr referred to a joint committee of
tke Watch and Ifralth Cclinnittees,.. The Watch Com-
mittee had agieed to a report, and had gent it to the
Health Committee, but that cjultinitts'e' hatf referred it
back for further information. As the report had teen
referred to the Watch Committee, to cenSider
police regulations, and as that committee had made its
repcf he , thought the motion had now better rest
entirely with the Health Committee. They, as the cus-
todians of the streetg, and as*the tramways were to be
laid in the streets", were the PYoper persons to carry
it out.'
The MA-You—That cannot be done without gflsttiiff.;
in the standing orders. It was sent for a report of a
joint ecmmittee, and we have only got before us the
the report of the Water Committee.
Mr. Dovtn, as Chairman of the Health Committee,
objected to' the responsibility being cast upon that com-
*tee. it *as motion which seriously effected the
llittrtic; as it ivVs a o'aestion of taxation, and one that
might interfere With the. traffic in the streets. The
committee, it being a subject of so' much finportance,
had referred it back for further inforitiation. ,
The TOWN-CLERK said, in answer to Mr. Clint, that
the proper course would be for the Council to confirni
the proceedings of the Watch Committee, except so far
as related to the report on tramways.
After a considerable amount of discussion, that course
was adopted

IHE HEALTH COMMITTEE.
The probeedingi of this committee were then read,
when Alderman Dover moved, and Mr. Sheil seconded,

th'ei'r confirmation:
. Mf. fhte'iii:st asked whether the report was true that
certain stieefs pUt do'ivn in the estimates to he paved
were left over year after ye*.
Aldernian DOVER was not awafe thsit Flag the
case.
The proceedings were then confirmed.
ST. GEORGE'S-HALL COMMITTEE.
The proceedings of this committee were read, and on
the motion of Mr. Alderman Turner were confirmed.

THE MAIMETS COMMITTEE,

The report of this committee was read, and amongst
other subjects It stated that the stall in "4t. John's Market,
forrner;y occupied by Mr. George Taylor, had been
offered bey tender, mid had been let to Mr. Charles
Taylor, of Chester; at a rental of £3 per week. A
memorial, signed by 6.5C1 of
.the tenants of the several
markets, praying the Council to alter the bye-law, and
permit the markets to be kept open until eleven o'clock
on a Saturday night, instead of ten, was read. /t stated
that the early closing was very injurious to them, and
that they were great sufferers by the alteration.
111. r. WOODRUFF, in moving the confirmation of the
proceedings 'of this committee, said he had no doubt
that the Council would be gratified to find that the
income of the markets had, under its present manage-
ment, been increased £1,400. The present committee
had done all it could in getting the markets to their
present state, and he hoped that the result would be
satisfactory to the Council and the town. He then
alluded to the memorial, and said the committee had
always considered that the alteration of the hours would
be injurious, and he was convinced-so still, but as it was
the act of the Council the committee had no power to
alter it, and it was a matter that entirely rested with the
Council to say whether they would continue to have the
markets closed at ten o'clock, or allow them to be kept
open until eleven, on Saturday night.
Mr. Alderman TURNER wished to know what bad
been done with Taylor's stall in St. John's Market.
Mr. WoonauFr explained the circumstances con-
nected with taking the stall away from Mr. George
Taylor, and added that he sent a memorial to the com-
mittee, but the committee could not alter its former
decision • therefore they had pat it up for tender. For-
merly the stall was let for £1 2s. 6d. The first tender
sent in was for £2, a second for £2 10s., and the third,
from Mr. Charles Taylor, of Chester, was for £3, and his
being the highest tender, he was accepted. '
Mr. BRCKWITH—The chairman of the Markets Com-
mittee is hoodwinking us. He knows well that the
same Taylors are at the stall now. (Laucrhter.)
Mr. Alderman TURNER thought that if the committee
had the power of taking the stall away from Mr. Taylor,
after he had been fined £5, they had no right to let
him have it again.
Mr. Alderman PARKER complained that parties
should be fined in the new wholesale market in Isling-
ton, when no bye-laws had been placed up.
Mr. JOHNSON then moved that the memorial from
this market tenants be referred to the committee, with a
request that they should report upon the necessity of
rescinding the bye-law, and allow the market to be kept
open until eleven o'clock on Saturday night as hereto-
fore.
Mr. CRELLIN seconded the proposition.
Mr. GRAVES expressed a wish that the present system
should have a fair trial, and said that there could not be
so much injury inflicted upon the tenants, when they
took into consideration the fact that one of the stalls
had recently been let for double rent. He moved that
the memorial lie on the table.
Mr. Alderman BRAHLEY-MOORE argued that as the
shopkeepers kept open their shops for the sale of goods
until twelve o'clock, it was an injury to the tenants of
the markets to compel them to give over business at
ten.
Mr. Picton and Mr. Clarke Aspinall, Mr. Tobin, and
several other gentlemen, having addressed the Council,
a division took place, when the voting was as follows :
For—The Mayor ; Aldermen William Bennett and
Thomas Dover ; Councillors John Johnson Stitt, Clarke
Aspinall, C. J. Corbally, Edward Estill, Thos. Avison,
,W. Houghton
Charles T. Bowring, Samuel R. Graves, John Hays
Wilson, Thomas Bailey Job, James Aspinall Tobin,
William Earle, James A. Picton, T. Llewellyn Hodson,
John Aikin, Francis A. Clint, Joseph Steel, John Far
worth, and J. Gibbons Livingston.-21.
Against—Aldermen James Parker, Joseph Cooper,
J. Hayward Turner, Richard C. Gardner, J. Bramley-
Moore, John Wooruff, Raymond and
John Stewart; Councillors James Crellin, Richard Shell,