The Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1860-04-24 00:00:00

ARRIVAL OF THE 'COPENHAGEN.

The Copenhagen has arrived in the Channel
from Melbourne, with 39,225 ounces of gold,
valued at £156,908. She has been out 120 days.

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

HOUSE OF LORDS.-YESTERDAY.

The Marquis of NORMA/MY moved the following resolution :
"That it appears by the papers lately laid before Parliament,
and especially by a despatch from Earl Cowley to Lord John
Russell, dated sth February, that the French minister had
stated, and truly, that the intention of the Emperor of the
French to take possession of Savoy, under certain contingencies,
had been made known to her Majesty's ambassador at Paris,
and by him communicated to her Secretary of State on more
than one occasion between the 12th of July, 1839, and the
23th of January, IS6O, in private letters. That, while this
Houle ful y recognises the necessity of a private correspn dente
between the Secretary of State and her Majesty's representa-
tives abroad, it is of opinion that all facts of international
importance ought to be made matter of official correspondence,
and as such to ,remain on record fur the use not only of the
Government of the day, but of their successors in Ake, to
be produced to or withheld from Parliament by the Ministers
of the Crown on their responsibility. That the absence of any
such record, more es?ecially of such private correspondence as
referred to in pub ic despatches, is injurious to the public ser-
vice, unjust alike to the Foreign Minister who made the com-
munication and to official colleagues at house, and calcu-
lated to withheld important matter from the full and free
control of Parliament." In making this motion, he dis-
claimed all hostility to her Majesty's Government or to our
ambassador at Paris, but he was compelled to call attention
to the establishment of an important public principle. Refer-
ring to the particular question at issue, he accused Lord
Granville of having given erroneous replies to the question
which had been put to him. _ .

Earl CowLEr;in a low tone of' voice, gave a draft sum-
mary of the diplomatic proceedings of the past year in rela-
tion to Savoy. It was in the mouth of March, 1839, that he
first heard of the terms of the treaty by which Sardinia, under
certain contingencies, agreed to cede Savoy to France. In
July, without waiting for instructions, he entered into com-
munication with Count Walewski on the subject, when he
was told that discussions certainly had taken place as to
the ce.tion of Savoy. On the 12th of July he received his
instructions, to which he had at all times carefully conformed,
At subsequent periods, in August and November, he was told by
Count Walowski privately, and without any official authority,
his firm conviction that the cession of the Duchies to Sardinia
would be followed by a demand of Savoy on the part of
France. Though this was a private communication, he
deemed it necessary to make it known to his Government ; but
this eouldnot be done officially, if he had done so it would have
involved the Government in premature discussion, and he would
have violated his own 'position. Again, he could not believe at
hat time Sardinia:would consent to give up her ancient posi.:es-
slot of Savoy. The conduct of Sardinia astonished him far more
than that of France. He admitted that it was irregular to refer
to private communications in. public despatches, but in this in-
stance such a proceeding was justifiable by inconsistencies.
On his return to Paris, after an absence, he found the cession
of Savoy in every one's mouth, and he felt obliged to ask an
explanation from 111. Thouvenel. From him he received, for
some time, no information, and .it was not till the 10th of
February last that he was officially informed of the intention
of the French Government to annex Savoy. Upon this he
could not make a report to his Governmeat without reference
to his previous private communications. Nothing had been
concealel. No information had been withheld; and in what
he had done he had only desired to act for the best interests of
the country.

Earl GRANVILLE, seeing no peer rise to support the motion,
and, after the clear and satisfactory explanation of the noble
lord, believed that the right course would be to move the pre-
vious question. He taunted. Lord Normanby with the neces-
sity he seemed to have felt of attacking, during this short
session, both his successors in his two diplomatic posts, and
passed a warm eulogium on Lord Cowley ; but Lord Nor-
manby, notwithstanding his profession, would have turned
out the Government if he could; and defended himself from
the charge of h iving given false or imperfect information on
his Parliamentary replies.
The Earl of M stoszeevav acquitted Lord Cowley, and put
have required the
the blame on Lord J. Russell, who oug
private communications to be put in as hottliteoial. forms.
ehonse, the motion for
After some remarks from Lord
the precious question was agreed to, and the House adjourned
at 7.33. • •

HOUSE OF COMMONS.—YEsIERDAY.
The Speaker took the chair at fonr o'clock.
Mr. M....sary, in reply to Mr. B. Osborne, said that, in con-
sequence of what had fallen froin Lord J. Russell, he should
not persevere in his motion for referring the Reform Bill, after
the second reading, to a select committee.
The adjourned debate on the second -reading of the Reform
Bill, was-, resumed by

Mr. lin wisr JAMES, who declared the bill to he, in his
opinion, defective, so far as it did not extend the franchise
to thoie varied and educated classes who might balance
its otherwise democratic tendencies, because it still insisted
on the payment of rates before the franchise could be
exercised, and hecause'the bill was a mere skeleton, without
any attempt at revision of registration. The returns on which
the bill was founded were altogether fallacious, inasmuch as
they took for their basis the assessment to the poor-rates, on
which, from the working of the Compounding Act, the names
of thousands of E 6 householders did net appear. He quoted
a large mass of returns to show the extent and importance of
this consideration, and the enormous number of persons who
would' be qualified to vote under the bill, and who were not
any way rated to the poor. A more just calculation would
hall beta 'found from the number of houses assessed instead

of the number of persons. The Government had not gratPlea
boldly with the inestion as it ought to hen) done. If Pub
opinion was not strong enough to enable him. -to carry a well'
regulated measure, he should have waited till that opitiOn"
stronger, rather than introduce a bill which unsettled ever!'
thing and settled nothing. The bill of 1854 was a bett=r, s
bolder, and a more satisfactory measure. It admitted fie
rights, of intelligence, sd as to balance the large agitation of the
franchise from the lower classes. lie gave every credit to the
sincerity of Lord J. Russell; but he had net in the present
Cabinet the influence which he ought to have had. He had CO
introducing the bill. made .a.• defence of nomination borough!

on precisely the high Tory grounds 'taken against the trst
Reform Bill by Mr. Croker. Ee ObjeCted to the oinisEion
the lodger franchises, which added a useful and deserr=g
class to the constituency. Why wgs the vexatious prarifio
retained of the enforce neat of thei;pa.yment of rates'• the°
things would have to be considered in committee. Those wh°
should reject it altogether would incur a grave responsibility;
and a like responsibility was incurred by those who had

the courage to propose a sufficient and satisfactory -measure.
Mr. Haaro: said it was -diftieult to learn from the speech of
the hon. in embe.r 'whether he meant the support or the tat aoticl
of the raeas.ure, while one party repreaor.ted by the hen. =0"..."
be: declared that the bill was not satisfactory, another
said thet it was not safe. Tho bill found favenr, as ss whcle'
with no one. • He denied that, uze.or t'e.preso-t roateni,
working cla:tes were precluded from taking their pal tin tl4:
Constitution of the cotentrv. The aibitrary reduction Pr'''.
posed by the bill was founded on no ostern, and was onV.
preliminary to a pressure from those immediately connectNs',
with them which- would lend to further and still root'
dangerous coaceszions. He adduced the *working of the
municipal law; to show that the use of the !rancho
by the working classes had led to deplorable results, sad
called on the house not to permit those who did not pay dire 4
taxation to control those who did. He declaiooad against the
transferences of powers involved in the f 8 franchise; whtel',
was proposed on behalf of peace and economy, and would ego,,
in promoting aver and extravagances. The allege!
simplification of the bill was with him no recommendatioFo,
The Constitution of England was a complicated one,
could not be treated successfully by simple means. •W
iriVeighed against the conduct of Mr. Bright, who was endea-
vouring indirectly to destroy the Constitution, dragging after
him, to an unfathomable abyss, an lenwilling Ministra
Why should. Lord John 'Russell have objected to submit to
the examination of a select committee this erode and Pre'
mature measure, Which was a miserable abertion, ilirkottr
of his precious efforts and his former fame.
Sir G. C. Lewis expressed his satisfaction at the ender*.
instituted in the oth: r House as to the truth of the rattans 0.1;
which the bill was founded, being satisfied that they weiild"
turn cut to be correct. Ile defended, further, their correct'
ness against the statements of Mr. E. James, and defended the
bill as a simple extension of the principles of the first Reform
Bill. Nothing tended more to the prosperity of a nation than
unity. The first bill had done much to promate the Ott
of England; and at this moment a bill framed in
similar spirit would tend much towards the same great end.
•When there Ira, no political excitement abroad, there was on
opportunity which ought not to be lost for the passing of I'
safe and prudent measure. Let the House go into committee,
the bill, and adopt such portions as it thought reasonablai
and modify such as it thought objectionable. He believed the
bill to be safe and sufficient, but its threefold suisjecta were
carefully kept distinct, and could hereafter be separatel.
dealt with. He could not understand how the alzr-P,
bill could be called revolutionary on the one side Plt
. insignificant on the other. From calculations whie'; be
himself made, after a most careful consideration, he did
not estimate the addition to the .borough eon- tituer.A7
under the bill at more than 160,00, and be! eyed that it has
been over-estimated by Lord John Russell. The addition to
county constituency, all deductions being made, would I:a/
he believed, be more than 157,000. At the very utmost, tb''
increase to the. constituency would be under 400,000. This
addition to the constituency was a right:and proper stiasplaent;
to the old reform bill, which did not go far enough in thfs
direction for the present state of the nation. On the other
hand, there no longer existed the same necessity for the din"
franchisement of the small boroughs, - of which none reinauled
which in a time of excitement could not exercise an indepeA'
dent rote.
Lord R. MONTA.GUE deprecated vesting political power in-
class of the community at once large and low. The bill to
contended was not required by the country, as the existing con'
stituencies did not exercise their privileges. o.
Mr. H. Btaxativ declared the bill, in the common accepto".
tion of the term, unworthy to be called a reform bill. It was
a forward step and as such he was, in consistency, boon& to
give it his support. But he protected against its being con sidea
conclusive, as a measure of duality, for the next 23 years. 0.
took it as a homoeopathic et:shale, calculated to do him r.eitl'iet
good nor harm. The noble lord, who had commenced bY.'
reform career in Brobdigna.g, had ended it in Lahput. • 11-''
midday sun had been-glorious, but his setting sun was water,'

and disastrous. • ' • -"" e
ord R. Cccra said that the bill intruetbd the peinser
taxation to the poorest classee of the community, who ar0:314
naturally tree it to their owili selfish ends. He was not
prised at the indifference ont of doors, but he was estenishc4'
at the indifference in that House to a crisis which involved
total transfer of power from one class to another.
Mr. M. Mietere, admitting the general indifference on a:"
subject, attributed it to the contentment sad well beir.-4
of the population. Were it otherwise, the actual distributicl
of the franchise would enable the people to sow their ,
content far and wide. Their present conduct was a proof tiSe3,
the franchise could safely be yet further
,extended. Withou '
venturing on legislative prophecies, so often falsified, he'Fe;
saw many ;mod results in the political 'education of the
and in its participation in political power. He thought, Is°
ap
ever, that the claims of education ought to be better recegnise44
and he should in committeemoYe clauses to that end. e
Mr. PEACOCK cited soma of the many instances of emilie4'
men returned for small constituencies, and asserted that ther/
were some men, when they became members for WO,
boroughs, became rather deleg'ates than representatives, fa"
were unable to act in accordance with their own convietionE'
Would the tone of debete, would the ctpacity for
business, would the character of the House t?
improved by the abolition of small constituencies =
These constituencies were the representativer of a 001'
numerous class, and their abehtion would threw the Hong:
into great divisions, without any intermediate body to s•iftcr;
and reconcile their divisions. He would prefer electoraldig'
tricts to the unequal proposals of the bill ; they would at lost
be fair, logical, and Petal. , • • -
Mr. Teionie so arrued in favour of the rental franchise as
• the only real test of the class fitted to exercise political power.
Mr. NEWDEOATE said that the reform question had been for.
years the football of faction, the _topic of an out-dooi par-
liament which had decided the proceedings of that lioe.si,e
He entered at length on the effects of the bill on the count!'
constituencies, respecting which the delusion was as great s••;•
that"which prevailed on the subject of borough constituencies..
He showed from returns already'presented to the House, th. 27
the addition to the county constituencies Made by. the
would be from 250,000 to 330,009, and demanded that fuller'
representation should be given to the counties, so as to bile:tee.
'the power of the boroughs. Unless thin was done, the Hon
of Lords would incur a grave responsibility if it consented, to,
pass the bill. eit
On the motion of Mr. Black, the debate was adjourned
Thursday.
The amendments in committee to the Paper Duty RopeiE
Pill were considered and agreed to.
The report of supply was brought up and agreed to.
On the order of the day for the second reading of the Irigh"
Landlord and Tenant Bill, • .
Mx. HENNESSY complained that the ball had not been Pr,"
and delivered. , .
Mr. CAR.DIVELL said that the proof had net arrived 1110'
Ireland.
Mr. WH;TESIDE_ warmly protect against .this mode of CO:
ducting business. He did not behove that the bill eras
existence.
The order was then postponed.
The Registration of Births (Scotland) Bin was read a We)...
time, as was the Fisheries (Scotland) Bill.
The Loan ADVOCATE obtained leave to infecidiece a e•-• :0'
provide additional accommodation for Sheriff•Ceurts
land.
The other orders were disposed of; and the Roust adjc',l"'''''4
at a quarter to one.

ROYAL AMPHITHEATRE.

We have to welcome the re-appeatape of Dir.,..1"
Cooper, probably the best " old man" on the stage, a'
well as possessing other qualifications as a good act
at the Royal Amphitheatre last night. He played
the "Porter's Knot," and in " A Phenomenon in "
Smock Frock," and will go through a series of charactaat,rs
this week. He appeared here last—year -with -gro".
success, and left to fulfil an engagement elsewhere;
but ho is now permanently added to Mr. Copela.,llo
company, and will prove a valuable acquisition. 211"
Laura Gray is rapidly taking a high position as as
actress, and occasionally manifests a dramatic power 8111,0
feeling which give promise of great capacity when 5
becomes a little more accustomed to the stage businef-'

THE LYCEUM COMPANY AT TO
THEATRE-ROYAL. •

Madame Celeste, well known and a favourite Ot'
in this town, has commenced an engagement at
~,v.
Theatre-Royal, and has brought down with. her, „'/,',
only a very effective portion of the Lyceum Coons
but also the scenes and scene painter, who, lciho
work, has excited so much attention in London.
„'''-....:
first piece, "Paris and Pleasure," is one of thoe:ra of
mens of French morality which afford a grog "e.
amusement ; and after various immoral advert ably.
the part of the heroes, attended by most disagr'es and,
consequences, ultimately results in due repentance, ic.
the preference of "Home and Happiness" 10 " ra'l
and Pleasure." In this Madame Celeste
eight different characters to effect the reformationhoar
the two spendthrifts, who were anOrgi-BrtTtianv
sisters, but had left them to pine :di Dlure
-.
while they went to enjoy
a Pars thata
she always
We need not say that she acted in
fctrappears in
n
does, and she was dressed admirably 1
John Rouse, wilt,'
g
She was very ably supported by every instance.
also manifested great dramatic
aor rv. opal power in the
the r Little Pet and
3
afterpiece, " King Thrushbeard,
late. that we have not,
the Great Passion.' This was
°vferit Frtioftutittseppeecrtfaocrime—erss.4
time to give any detailed notice ob
has the merit of affording. a
some spirrte,‘
celebrated fairy
fern scene,
acting; concluding with the c
esterd
good singing, some graceful dancing,.ea and
of which we gave a description, y ay. But no words
can do justice to the effect. It must be seen tonW
appreciated, and when seen will not be easily forgottell-
-

The death of General Home is annohneed. He w/t5."
regimen "i'
recently appointed to the coloneley of the 56th
METROPOLITAN RAILWAY.—WEI believe the -
rails of the Metropolitan Railway will be probably 'sit'
very early
to arlybie June,penrent at
ante
dhtlciaertemidolnsy.hareholders 'a
invited be.
NEwBaONZE COINAGE.—Her
5
appTHrovEed of the new penny piece, which will
issued as soon as possible. The following is the gene"'
design :—The obverse contains the portrait of the Que,el?;.
with a wreath of laurel round the head. The bast I,
lengthened as in the florin, and a scarf, embroider!'
with the rose, thistle, and shamrock., is thrown over.o7
shoulders. The inscription is, "Victoria D. G. Bad
Reg. F. D." Britannia aypears on the. reverse, ;
on a rock, not on the shield, as in the present been
but the figure has been remodelled, and the sea has_nd
introduced, with a ship on one side of the figure one
lighthouse on the other. The inscription is,
Penny, ,1860." The likeness of the Queen is esreter4
truthful, and, without the faintest attempt at. tls_bbe;ll'
the regal and classical expression of the face JrBco___er,
part! ?t Toe
perfectly caught. There are ninety-four
four of zinc, and two of tin in the compositn:of s
metal. The value of thie amalgamation Es
per
e!..__..er
thin as well as a small coin—in fact,
than the French bronze two-sous pieces.
f the coin and.
has taken great interest in the progress o _
8_
has honoured Mr. Leonard C. Wyon with_
_o7_l
tings. The work of art—for it is really such, LT:beei!
net 2ijeru higlanire:ty,
to the well-earned fame of this gentleman, sad
executed with remarkable care. The haurne, one
farthing are in progress. The size of thelol,oo.llr,
inch and two-tenths, the halfpenny 0116 Urn. •
farthing eight-tenths of as inch.