The Stourbridge Observer, Cradley Heath, Halesowen & District Chronicle.
Stourbridge, West Midlands, England, 1881-06-25 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAIVIENT.

In the HOUSE OF LOADS, June 20, the Lord Chancellor
took his seat on the woolsack at four o'clock.

A brilliant company assembled to witness the interesting
and unusual ceremony of the introduction of a Prince of the
Royal house to Parliament. Lier—alajesty last month
created his Royal Highness Princla Leopold Duke of
Albany, Earl Clarence, and Baron Arklow, and to-day
Was appointed for the formal admission of the Prince
t, a seat in Parliament. His Royal Highness reached
Westminster shortly before four, and was received
by the Prince of Wales and the Duke of Cambridge.
The Princess of Wales, two of the Princesses, and the Duke
and Duchess of Teck were in the gallery. The throne was
Uncovered, and two chairs were placed immediately on the
eft, one or the Prince of Wales and the other for the new
Peer. At four o'clock, the Lord Chancellor having taken his
seat, and there being present in the House Earl Granville, Earl
Spencer, and about fifty other peers, the procession entered
from the door to the right, facing the throne. The pro-
cession was headed by the Black Rod (Sir W. Knollys),
followed by Garter King at Arms (Sir A. Woods). The
Prince of Wales, Prince Leopold, and the Duke of Cambridge,
In their peers' robes, filed past the table to the woolsack,
followed by the Earl Marshal (the Duke of Norfolk) and the
Lord Great Chamberlain (Lord Aveland). After a formal
aalutation from the Lord Chancellor, the Prince retired to the
table, accompanied by the Prince of Wales and the Duke of
Cambridge. Having taken the oath, the Prince then signed
the roll. The procession was re formed, crossed the House
below the table to the Ministerial side, where it wheeled
towards the door, re-crossed behind the •cross benches,
and once more advanced up the House to the woolsack.
Here, after a brief pause, the Prince of Wales led the way to
the two chairs near the throne. In one of these Prince
Leopold was formally installed, and, immediately rising,
Proceeded to the woolsack and shook hands with the Lord
Chancellor, The Prince of Wales and Use Duke of Cambridge
also shook hands with the noble and learned lord, and the
ceremony, which occupied less than hall-an-hour, concluded.
Their lordships rose at a quarter-past four o'clock, and
resumed at five o'clock.
Lord Granville, replying to Lord Stratheden and Camp-
bell, said a Blue book was being prepared on the subject of
the Greek frontier, and her Majesty's Government were only
awaiting the assent of foreign Governments to present it to
Parliament.
Lord Galloway called attention to that part of the report
5 Lord Airey's Committee which deals with the question of
Wle waste of the Army. The noblesand gallant lord quoted
at great length the well-known statistics of the report
en the subject of desertion. Having once more con-
the linked battalion system, he complained
that the Government had not adopted the report of the
Committee, and contended that their not having done BO
afforded strong ground for the appointment of a Royal Com-
naiaston to report on the " waste, ' both as regards desertion
and fraudulent enlistment. He concluded by moving for the
aPpointrnent of such a Commission. '
Lord Morley pointed out that the question which the noble
and gallant lord wanted to have inquired into had been made
the subject of exhaustive investigation by Lord Airey's Com-
rnittee. The extracts with which Lord Galloway had favoured
the House had been already known to their lordships ; but
lao doubt the noble Pry] alllnt lord brought them forward
irk order to afford li.c. another opportunity of attacking the
Clus. vernment for their scheme of Army reorganization. Lord
alorley referred to bit: agures to show that neither
Short service nor the linked battalion system was an-
swerable for desertion, but that desertions had de-
creased since the introduction of both, and that there
Wsas a gradual and steady tendency to their continued
''crease. We believe, however, that the number
of desertions did not depend on either system, but was
attributable to economic causes. The Government were
clnite alive to the necessity of doing all in their power to
reduce the waste in the Army.
t Lord Bury expressed the opinion that the Under-Secretary
tr War had not appreciated Lord Galloway's argument on
e waste of the Army.
thll2 o Duke of Cambridge said that it was perfectly plain
th 94 when men enlisted they did not know whether
theY Would like the service or not. If they did not like it,
eY got out of the Army as soon as they could. In a con-
-le_riPt Army men could not desert. Every man joined the
iy from his own homestead. ft was known who he was
tPl,° where he came from, and, therefore, there was no such
Lng as desertion. In an enlisted Army there would
;nal be desertion. He believed that if the number of men
i',;to had deserted for the last 20 years were compared with
t:e.,_ntimber in the Army, there would be very little variation
l'Ue proportion. No doubt when men enlisted largely men
~ere accepted who in other circumstances would be rejected.
r,ffiecers would not reject recruits when they wanted to fill up
ir regiments. No doubt when the number of men was
aaed the result must ben considerable waste. On the
iect of marking the men by vaccination medical men
ro pronounced an adverse opinion, and even vaccination
,las not as perfect as it ought to be for • the purpose. At
late Mize time unless men were marked men would enlist
er and over again. It ought to be borne in mind that a
?eat proportion of the desertion in the Army was owing
17., the same men repeatedly deserting. It frequently
a:PPened that the same man deserted six or seven times ;
tg_ there was one case where a man had deserted eight
gre,sea• The number of deserters would, of course, to a
taa:4 extent, depend upon whether it was made worth a
's
While. The deserter got his bounty, deserted again
,:atgot a second bounty ; of course each time immediately
cursing away with the money. Ile did not think it was a
su!stion which could be easily discussed in an assembly
as their lordship's House. Nor did he think there was
1-;;;Y cause for anxiety on the ground of the greater youthful-
hes,`,l of men in the Army than formerly prevailed. He be-
beed the men were better than they used to be. It must
,s the interest of any Government to make the best recruits
ril sible, and he believed that the present Government, like
pouasee which had preceded It, was doing its best for the pur-
Ler
th_ d Efardinge thought that dissatisfaction was caused to
boer recruits by the severity of the drill, and Lord Ellen-
we,.°llgh said that the constant changes in organisation
'e a cause of discontent in the Army.
T_Aiter a discussion in which Lord Airey, Lord Stt athziairn.
.17"1 Salisbury' and Lord Granville took part, the motion
as Withdrawn.
Th
ior,e other orders of the day having been disposed of, their
"'hips adjourned at twenty minutes past eight o'clock.
h
e nou OF COMMONS, Mr. Fawcett informed Mr.
car!t n 8
Howard that specimens of home and foreign post
View Would be exhibited in the library of the House, with a
1,7 to improvements in our own post cards.
Earl of Bective gave notice of his intention to move on
Nortlll3' day that the policy of the French Government W
men t Africa demands the immediate attention of parlia-
k. and that the decree of the Bey of Tunis appointing
is rtoustau his intermediary with foreign representatives
nei`illolation of our treaty rights, contrary to the comity of
seceu.a!s, derogatory to this country, and ought neither to be
I_lned nor acted upon.
G.evu„answer to air. Stanhope, Mr. Gladstone stated that the
th„ Wastnent thought it their duty to call the attention of
p.Z._united States Government to the incitements to out-
Ken contained in certain newspapers published there.
Sis
°eve • Dilke, in answer to Lord Bective, said the French
Leo rnMent had admitted that the proceedings of the
Nerd in searching British merchantmen were not war-
be and expressed regret. In answer to.other questions,
pre:ao that communications were still going on with the
Zn.Clovernment with regard to the position of M.
The and u „ apse then went into Committee on the Land Bill,
disti;ll2.dlscussion of Mr. Healy's amendment to abolish the
to el "ion between present and future tenancies in respect
Eyei:use 3 was resumed and continued for some time.
eittui nally the amendment was negatived. The fourth
tusa .e Was under consideration when progress was reported,
jeetne other business being disposed of, the House ad-
--"ed at ten minutes past two o'clock.

to the noun OF Lonns, June 21, Earl Granville replying
50c,14). Camperdown, entered at some length into the rea-
116i— Which had induced Prince Charles of Bulgaria to resign
Desition under the Treaty of Berlin. He recommended
conciliatory course both to the Prince and his subjects.
De La Warr, in calling the attention of the House to
avl6lllsian question, said he could not concur in the view
taii;" the Secretary for Foreign Affairs seemed to
CoUld OX the French proceedings in Tunis. Ile
not think that any great benefit could arise
tie; tile contact of Western and Eastern civiliza-
tts Ile asked how relations were now carried on be-
lt oen this country and the Regency of Tunis, and whether
Thalias consistent with the honour and diguity of England
aetio°lll' Agent could not approach the Bey for the trans-
the of political or commercial business except through
This—'edhan of the French Minister resident at Tunis.
ver3, coUntry, which, in 1875, made with the Bey a treaty
dliter beneficial to our trade, could not view with in-
itege„ence French interests taking the place of English in the
tted:eY of Tunis. lie alluded to the protest of the Porte,
t.s4fpressed his opinion that if England had moved earlier
corite" Matter the present state of things could not have
Papere.about. The noble lord concluded by moving for
Dora '3,
alat , eAihraven, Lord Lamington, Lord Stanley of Alderley,
is•ord Camperdown having spoken,
Lord ,-,
Inoue, wanville said that he had no wish to, oppose the,
show o' and he thought the papers moved for would merely
Present relations with Tunis. Ile was glad to per-
P01ie,;,.;4 the House generally did not disapprove of the
-Freehut her Majesty's Government in this matter T
treaty' government had given us assurances that our
Majeet ,tights should not be interfered with. Her
that .3' Government were sensible of the fact
their
(Incidents might arise on which, it would be
°Pissean'aitY to ask for frank explanations, but as we had not
xtut se' the past r.ction of the French Government, he could
act, e the advantage of getting into petty squabbles on that
"1, unless it led to an invasion of our treaty rights.
Lord
than:4 rlalisbury repeated that he was not prepared to
Gel,'Llfle the policy hitherto pursued by ller Majesty's
a ne`plinent, but he confessed that the matter had assumed
ari,e' Phase, and that considerations which did not before
Inga of c°llld no longer be lost sight of. The proceed-
net France were not wholly intelligible. He could
refrain from saying that, in the proceedings of
401;91 subordinates, at least, there was a disregard for the
hepe"!,gs and interests of other Powers than France. He
circa It would be shown that, notwithstanding Roustan s
dir °Ur Agent was not to be deprived of the light of
eaketet aceess to the Bey. In conclusion, the noble 11arquis
Teel " When it comes to the fact that the access to the Bey of
ari,B barred by Va recent circular I think a grave matter
and I sha illook with some curiosity to see in what
r the Government will treat that claim. I believe
Lot '''Pe that it will be found that that claim as stated, was
trea,really made and. that the. undoubted: right, notby,
et t,Y, but by the comity of nations, every Power possesses.oerof
aeot'kending an ambassador if it chooses to the_ i 1
4u,e,r nation. has not been in any way interfered with. If
east the case, it explains the language held by the noble
Peetat°,l the attitude which he is inclined to tales ieup n
dreris-
cult_ 0 this question. The matter is one of considerable 1-
1 here are - many considerations arising bearing
Powe it net touching merely English interests and
ra• In this matter I feel it is our wisest plan, so
absecias we have no grounds that could drive Us to
and B,ich a position to leave these transactions
r the ,
esei.rio rt,sponsibility to Her Majesty's Government,
elPrce gto ourselves in the i ultimate ssue. the right to
is s the opinions which We may entertain. But there
t,;" danger that if we discuss the question toii early, or
roe, ° great length, we may raise questions which would
tee,,e feelings between the two countries, and also might
bet'ir
ete make envenomed the feelings which have arisen
,a ti," Yrance and one of her neighbours. (Hear, hear.)
w;cae groun'—
d -and the, noble earl is well aware that, if
eilestionoi maintaining the rights of Enclishm,-n,
egt 74 ecininand the supped, not.only of his own friends,
Rreen"",
" Flieelislimen of all parties whatever—on all these
e• d, 1 think we. should. be adopting the wisest course .
l'ot pursue thil .debate.,.at any very great length."
111 tear.) ,
*bat t,ePly to Ehrl De Lfasr„arl :Granville said tha
ha'i stated was that they had no treaty right to
T access to the Bey:- • They luitl had personal access.
he „
en—°,loll.was agreed to. •
2,,tber --e4.1b.3r 9( Bills having been advanced a stage and some
"'lioth.-,.,,7°PPosed returns having been ordered, theirlordships
--"Ni at twenty ininutes past seven o'c'ocx.
tlieit:',!o HOUSE oF COMMONS, at the Morning Sitting, Mr.
conl,f Isked the President of the Board of Trade whether he
_
the 11...oefore the end of the Session, lay upon the table
,cl.ll.tivnae a statement of the number of acres thrown out of
'Vales:Qco in each of the several counties in England and
_
Prebet, uatnberlain; in reply, said the hon. member would
Iteter,''Y find the information he desired in the Agricultural
earbjW7,_, which would be in the hands of hon. ,members
usual this year.
Cherekinbilke, in answer to a question from Lord R.
olle to ~:19.1d that our Constil-General at Tunis would con-
oY oar p 'IIOY the privileges and immunities secured to him
enjoyourveution with Tunis, which were the same as those
Franco ; Itoustan in his capacity as Consul-General for
Were th;an'the repeated that 11. Roustan's double functions
4.iect of diplomatic conununications.
Lord c
naeve _ hurchill thereupon gave notice that he would
rutolntion in regard to the affairs of Tunis on Friday
nderstanding, that Mr. Rylands was about to with-
fes ..,„"25 motions on the Anglo-Turkish Convention fixed
thatlit day ; but Mr. Rylands immediately protested
Childers had not aig,nitied any intentions of the sort. Mr.
to Withc?rhaowaier' immediately afterwards appealed to him
eeiseton draw motion in order to make way for the dia.
Governraea hne Army reorganization scheme, which the
Said, Would fix for Friday at tour o'clock, if
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the members who had motions on Supply for that night
would agree,

Mr. ItTylands complained that the re,quest was very hard
on him, because, five weeks ago, he had been ousted from
the first place by a motion arising out of the action of the
Government on the Peace Preservation Act, but he
stipulated that if he gave way on Friday all other members
having motions down must also withdraw them.

Sir S. Northcote thought the proposal a reasonable one,
and intimated that Mr. Mac Iver, who had the second
motion down, would follow Mr. Ryland's example, but Mr.
T. Collins and Lord R. Churchill were understood to decline
to give any pledge as to the motions for Friday of which they
had given notice.

Sir H. Wolff said, with regard to the latter, that, probably,
if the llnder•Secretary would on Thursday depart from the
reticence which lie had shown about events at Tunis, his
noble friend might be induced to depart from his resolu-
tion; but Sir C. Dilke said he should not be in a position to
give any further information on Thursday, as negotiations
were still going on.
Sir W. Barttelot suggested that the discussion might be
taken at two o'clock on Friday, with the Speaker in the
chair, and Mr. Childers, in the end, was understood to
accept this arrangement.
The House then went into Committee on the Land Law
(Ireland) Bill, resuming the consideration of Clause 4, which
occupied the remainder of the sitting.
At the Evening Sitting the House was counted out before
any business was done..