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Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1860-05-12 00:00:00

they left, because the fly came to fetch them to the train.
(The witness then stated what took place after the depar-
tUre of Mr. and Mrs. Plummer, and positively negatived
the fact of any act of impropriety on the part of Mr.
Hatch having taken place.) The governess, Miss Howe,
came the same day that Eugenie Plummer did, and their
studies commenced on the following Monday. The study
of Mr. Hatch was turned into a schoolroom, and th
hours of study were from nine to twelVe o'clock, and
two.till four o'clock. Eugenie Plummer had plenty of
opportunity to speak to Miss Howe if she had wished
to do so. The witness then stated 'that on the 18th of
August, which Was one of the days spoken to by Eugenie
Plummer, Mr. Hatch did no more than take them both
on his knee and tell them a story about a lion, to amuse
them. She also said that she remembered the younger
child, Stephanie Plummer, being brought to Mr. Hatch's
on the 25th of August, and stated positively that Mr.
Hatch never behaved improperly to her, and that -she
did not on any occasion make - complaint that such a
thing had occurred.
Crossexamined.---My papa went away about two
months after Eugenie Plummer came, and no one ever
spoke to me upon the subject daring that period. I
have told my papa, my mamma, and Mr. Holt, the
solicitor, what evidence I could give. I think the first
person I spoke to about it was my papa, but I do not
think mamma was present. It was when he was at
Poplar. My mamma was away at the time. My papa
asked me if I would undertake to say that Eugenie
Plummer did not put her hand in his pocket; and I
said I would, and he told me to be sure not to forget it,
and he kissed me and was very kind to me. My mamma
afterwards spoke to me upon the subject. I have told
the same story to grandmamma
;and bliss Howe. I
remember my,papa being tried in this court. When I
was'examined befdro the magistrate I said that oil the
first evening Eugenie Plummer came I ran away from
her and Mr. Hatch and left them together, and some-
times their backs were towards me.
Re-examined.—She was at Poplar with her papa
three days. Her mother took her to Poplar, and she
told her the truth, and the same story she has to-day
upon her. oath. She told the same story to Mrs. Hatch
and to her grandmanurta and the governess and Mr.
Holt, the solicitor. When site said that she riemetinies
ran away, leaving Mr. Hatch and Eugenie behind, what
she meant Was that she tan round the carriegti drive,
brit she could see rill that was gohig dii. Het' papa was
riot more kind td het at Poplar than he Was heibte. He
was always kind to her.
Mr. Holt, the solicitor for the prosecuticn, deposed
that he
,took doWn the statement of Lucy Hatch in
December hiSt, and after-Wards reduced it to the form of
nstatUtory derdaratiori. Slane !ilia the statement quite
voluntarily, and he took down the narratiie from het
own lips. No one else was present.
Cross-examined.—This was about three weeks 'after
the conviction of Mr. Hatch had taken place. The
object of making the .itataitorY deelarrition was to
Obtain a declarations,
A niitither Of abet' Pefsthis Made
statutorydeclarations, and they were all transmitted to
the Secretary of State, and he suggested that there
should be 'an indictment for perjury, and witness agreed
that this was the only course that could be taken. No
copy of the statutory declarations was furnished to the
friends of the defendant. Upon .the Secretary of State
mailing the suggestion he had alluded to, the necessary
steps were at once taken td prefer an indletttierit for
perjury, in order that Mr. Hatch Might have tin
of pieSentiiig itt the Witness- bo± and
bele& iiPen ado: .
I%e r. Lewis, of the firm of Lewis and Lewis, seheitofi,
Ely-place, deposed that he conducted the defence. of
Mr, Hatch, and that witnesses were in attendance on
his behalf, but in the discretion of counsel they were
not examined. •
Mrs. Dillon, the mother.in-law of Mr. Hatch, was
then examined, and she stated that en the 11th of
August she wds etanding at the draWing-tooni Wittdow
after Mr. and Mrs. Plittnater had left, and could ere all
that Was going on iii the Cartiage
.drive, rind did riot
ebierie any set of impropriety. She said that she saw
the, Cl4ldieti.,ititiniiig rotind the,gilrelen tiftei Mr: Hitter,.
arid When She told lath that the tea *Oa ready he laid
hold of the hand of each of the little girls, and led
them into the hotise.' She added 'that if any such act
as' that suggested had taken place in the garden she
must have seen it, and also negatived the statement of
the defendant with regard to other portions of her
evidence. Mrs. Dillon likewise confirmed the state-
ment made by the other witnesses, that Mts. Plummer
had ample opportunity of cattinitinicating_ with her
aUd that:she Made ne entiiplaint WhateVer.
By Iltr, Oerjeatit thee-I-Witri6s ?as Ori the Mdst
friendly and confidential terms with both Mr. and hire.
Hatch, and she was generally consulted by them in refe-
rence to their affairs. She knew nothing'about this charge
until Mr. Hatch was apprehended. She knew there was
i‘ SOCiethitig," hit, she did not know what.it was. She'
first heard that the Was. sottletliiilg: diFire3sirg upon
Mr. Hatch's mind in reference to these children about
six weeks after they had left. She was aerate that lir.
Retell. had . gone to Poplar, and ML OnaoW had
tci resign his tirtPdiniiii.ent, brit She never
heard that the effect of his resignation would've to pre-
vent any inquiry.- She would undertake to say posi-
tively that Mr. Hatch and :the children were not five
minutes in the carriage drive after the cab had driven
off with Mrs. Plummer. She was looking at them all
the time, and was quite sure that the little girl Eugenie
did not Nut fifty, and Mt Hatch after het. Her anon.
tiOn Was jot tailed to the sithjed, r.nt 1 sitweeles after:.
Wards, and yet she rettlettibered all that occurred oti that
evening. If Mr. Hatch had left them in the evening
for a longer period than nine or ten minutes she would
have been alarmed, as he occasionally suffered from"
cramp. She was quite sure that Eugenie and her
mother Were alone, together on the 25th of AuguSt, and
that heating Was &Me td present therri fiorit so.
The Court was here adjourned for a short period.
Upon the return of the jury Miss Howe, the governess,
was examined. She deposed that she went into Mr.
Hatch's family as governess to the
,children on the 11th
of .titg•tiit lait, aii she, Saw On that day,
and was introduced to her as the gov:iiiiiess Who ilias to
take charge of her children. Mrs. Plummer was very
anxious that the door of her children's bedroom should
he kept constantly open. -Witness was constantly with
Eugenie Plummer and' Lucy Hatch, and 'the former had
plenty.:of.opportunities to speak to her if she pleased to
do eo:
.She never made itty.-.CoMplaint or suggestion to
witness stie hid .lieen improperly or iiideCentli
treated or hiirt, .eitber. by, Mr. Hatch or any one else.
She ietifeltihercii 19,hitiitrier going, away on the
evening of the AlighSt: dt the tinie was
quite ready. and waiting, and Mr. Hatch and the two
children came into the drawing-room in less than two or
three minutes after .the" eatriage left. Witneas was
watching thein all the time from the 'drawing-room
window, and she was quite sure that no sot of impropriety
tool: piste. The massed the rest of the
evening in her company, and she did riot take the
slightest Complaint of any kind, and did riot eihibif the
least appearanee.,Ot hiving beeil diseorieefted in tiny
manner: tt* S4hifilie; 4as left iii
,;
wit-
ness's care at governess on the 25th of August, and While
they were at dinner Mr. Hatch told Mrs. Plummer that
the child Eugenie came to his bed in the morning as she
had done at a former school. On the following day Mrs.
Plummer came to Mrs. 'Hatch's in a very excited man-
ner, and rushed into the schoolroom and exclaimed,
Whet! 10 Children in the 4tddy, arid Ley in the
hall and slid, then saidthat Site wetild take her chil-
dren away, and site and the two girls th wtibiA intd the
garden. Mr. and Mrs. Hatch were out at this time, but .
they returned in the course of the afternoon. Witness
remained at Mr. Hatch's. until November following, and
she had many opportunitie a of observing his conduct,
and never saw anything in his behaviour to the children.
brit that ef 4 kifid add godd triad:, - •
By Serjeant Shee—The child Eugenie aPpe-afed td lie
attached to both Mr. and Mrs. Hatch,. and also to witness,
and they did not appearte have any cause of complaint.
There was nothing in Mr. Hatch's appearance that induCed
her to watch him, and of course she did riot suspect atty-
tbirig Wrong: She Saw M.O Hatch knitting away from
the little him run after them, Eitid this *at
all she observed. She did not hear of this charge until
after Mr. Hatch went away. Mrs. Hatch told her that
there was a charge of some kind against her husband, but
she did not know the particulars until he was examined
at Wandsworth Polite-court.
ite-etamined—The whole Of the front garden was
visible from the draWing4ootia window.
Mary Anne Reed deposed that in August last she was
in the service of .Mr. Hatch, and went to him with a
character from another clergyman. She remembered
Mrs. Plummer coming with her daughter Eugunie
on the lith of Augusts and she showed her the
bedrooms. After Mrs. Plummer went away in the
evening, witness watestanding on the door steps, and she
saw Mr. Hatch and 'the children run round the carriage
' drive. This was all that occurred, and it' anything else
had happened she must have seen it. The witness then
gave some further evidence in corroboration of the
previous testimony, and also said that Eugenie Plum-
mer never made any complaint whatever to her. During
the time she was in Mr. Hatch's service she never saw
anything in his conduct unbecoming a clergyman and
a gentleman.
By Serjeant Shee—She was not asked any questions
until after Mr., Hatch had left in November. She saw
the children running after Mr. Hatch, and she saw them
catch him. Witness. watched them all the time, and
she was sure they were not more than two or three
minutes in the garden. Upon some occasions she.sew
Eugenie and Mr.: Hatch in: the bed after Mrs. Hatch
and Lucy had left. .
Ellen Farr, another servant to Mr. Hatch at the, time
in question, gave .evidence of a similar character.
Mr. F. R. Coghlan deposed that he. was at Mr.
Hatch's house on the evening of the 18th of August last.
There . was a party of !friends. 14 the. course 9f the
evening Mrs. Hatch asked 'him to go upstairs and tell
Mr. Hatch to come down. Ho went to the "bedroom.
The door wasi ajar, and he knocked and Mr. Hatch told
himto come in. Witness did not go into the room, bul
I merely asked him to opme down, and he said, " We

THE DAILY TIMES, SA.TVitDAY, MAY 12, 1860

This closed the case for the prosecution, &i 1 the
hen adjourned.

The defendant's father again entered into a recog-
nisance for her appearance on the following morning,
and she went away in his charge.
The case was resumed yesterday morning. Mr.
Sergeant Shoe addressed the jury on behalf of the
deferiddtit. The trial is hat expected to be concluded
a late bout this day, tie d eodesiderable nuaitrer of
witnesses 'will be bronght forwatd fo't the defence.

The 8:las con4erdris the attempt in the Lords to
continue the paper duty, and teinarks that if the Loids
cannot originate a tax, or offer a bill dealing with tax-
ation, can they without a violation of the privileges of
the Commons, continue a tax which the House of Com-
mont INS eblidenmed.

• ME • '1;014110ii TEA A*l SILX MARKETS.—The
news by telegram was on Thursday art adverse
alteration in the tate of exchange, amounting it, 11 pet
cede at liongbong; arid 34, per cent. at Shatighai? will
lead to ail ifieieAhhi the deniaitd fet silver fot China.,
The intelligence of the panic Anil stist;ensitin of OAS at
Shanghai, in consequence of the progress of the reheis,
caused holders of silk to withdraw their stocks from the
market, they are anticipating an advance in prices, and
await the arrival of the mail, which will be delivered in
London to-day. The tea market was also excited
yesterday, and a large portion of the quantity declared
for the t9ublit sate has beet withdrawn,

. ,
A GRATEFUL LEGATEt—U6IISidefAIe sellscttion was
Caused nt Lyonson Satuiddy eVening by tt pefson
stationing filiiiiblf tiudi Saint Clair, anri present-
ing tti eyhf ni i thiit PASO blouse a piece
of 50c., which
.he patted front it a genie people,
thinking he was mad, talked of arresting him; ki he
cried out, •" Do not interrupt me. lam not mad. I
have unexpectedly come into a legacy of 30,000 f. from
an uncle, .and. I have resolved, in order to show my
gratitude and joy, to distribute 400 f. to working men."
Su sdjitig, he continued his distribution until the hag
*as nutty; aftet which he quietly went away,

A NAiOI;EONi6 fiinerdl settice was
Solernnised it twelve o'clock on grittirddy it/ the Chapel
Of the Tuileries, being flit? anniversary of the death of
.NaPCilean I. at geleina: The Emperor, Empress,
and the Princes tin 4 Priric.es*s of the Imperial family
were present. The health of letoniti; not per-
mitting him to be present at the mass at' the ituileilegi
he was represented at the Church of the InvalideS
(where a funeral service was likewise performed) 'by an
aide-de-camp, and by the officers of his household. The
Church of the Invalides was filled by the survivors of
thb old Imperial army, attired in their antiquated
tinifornis;

lIIAf E X 1.2 )3 truitifithi..:Aitotb et hinatie, a female,
presented herself on SatiifdttY tit did ft:4l4kt hddressing
herself to the concierge of the gate de lEehelie,
-said that she wag the daughter of the Duchess de Berri,
and that she wished to see the Emperor, in order that,
in imitation of the Count de Montemolin in Spain, she
might dbdieltfl her rights and recognise Louis Napoleon
as Erripefoi of the Frendi. sn doing," she said,
" I ask nothing Melo than ki fevi Milli Ons, t.ttk :it Court
ilninediateljr- after iho Princes rind rtintesses at the
and ti Palace. to live in." The pour
woman was of edtits# fittest:6d ettte tiYrn'ed tin't fn be-se
dressmaker, who had lost her wits by eiamitie defotion:
She was sent-to an asylum.

STATE: OF. TAE CONTRACT MORTAR VESSELS.—
An inspection. of two more of the mortar contract
vess'els has taken place at Chatham, and the result shows
that. both are utterly unfit for further service. The
Tlh safe ka totters li‘etu they found to be that, after a
portion of the piaiddSg kg liedi enough vas
exhibited to satisfy the officers fruit it iirk iiiiitecegsaty

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to extend the survey. The Admiralty order for t'l of
being broken up is at once expected. The whole of the
On and mortar vessals at Chatham were built by con-
tract, and, judging fiom the inspection which has already
taiert rli6e. of four, the result will probably be that a
survey WOUld iiidi 111,1 majority, if not nearly the
whole, Will 136 fmind rotten rind unOt ?of farther service.

,DEATH OF ANOTHER i'ARLIAMENIARY VEITRAN.—.
In the late Jr.it drmshy Gore, of Portington,
Shropshire lids idsi tiiie df~ ite itoogt attive rtragistrates
and largest land-owners, and a gentleman viliti for
upwards of twelve years represented the northern divi-
sion of that county in the Conservative interest. Ho is
succeeded in his Shropshire estates by his eldest son,
who was lately a groom-in-waiting on her Majesty, and
sat as M.P. for Carnarvosshire in the Parliament of
18301. The high property devolves on his second
son, William Richard °trusty Cle-rfii M.P. for county
Leitrini, and formerly M.P. for toitax Sligd, Nolo is
*Tied to a daitghter of Admiral Sir George Seymour,

it "Alexander Dumas," ri e tr from Marseilles,
"is on the point of leaving this pfge en his trans-
Mediterranean excursion. The following is refuted of

the man. Just as he was leaving Paris for the railway,
hs called his servant and said . 'Take these ten Innis,
add tan to RaggieWs firework manufactory. Ask him
kir Ohs, rockets; serpents, arid Roman candles, and
ihilg ih'em to ifie at the Lyons railway station, where I
6411 wait ibi; On.' the serftint set off acclrdingly. A
friend who bappeiikl to be pieserit ineptlred, '%'that do
you want those fireworks for ?" Why, to let them off
in the- Desert,' answered Dumas ; ' you cannot imagine
the grand effect produced by the illumination of the
great pyramid!'"
rattkOrn AND THE S'ex EXaHANOZ. —lt is
tuideritood that the Stock tgc'hange committee haie
not thus far been able-td trace the possibility of
tallinget havirig incarrod losses on the Stook achange
to, an 'amount equal to' one-fou'rth the, extent of his
embezzlement. His largest loss was throngh a firm
which failed some time back, to which be himself was
ultimately a defaulter for ahout..£l4,ooo, a eircumstatirA
which was concealed at, the time, in the hope thathe would
ultimately pay. About £l,OOO, however, is believed to
have hod all that was recovered from him afterwards.
His operations with tin outsider, who recently died,
leaving a large fortune, are supposed to have been of an
extensive character. Pullinger frequentli . paid for
Considerable funounts of securities, of which he' took
pOssession,' and it will be highly important if any of
these can be traced. It is now clearly established that
he had had large transactions on the turf, but the

impression conveyed from the evidence obtained on that
point is that he was usually a winner.
ATTEMPTED SUICIDE OF A GIRL.—OD Saturday last,
a young girl, about 14 years of age, attempted to drown
Herself by jumping into the Stour, near to Prestwood
House, the seat of J. H. H. Foley, E:q., M.P. It is
said the cause was some nnpleasantnets at home. It
appears she stayed out all Friday night, and in the
morning her mother learned where she was, and followed
her, bat only came, up in time to see her jump from the
bridge into the Stour, which is rather deep at that
place. The mother's cries were heard by W. Southall
(assistant to Mr. Thompson, the steward at Prestwood),

who immediately left his office, ran to the spot, took
off his coat, plunged into the river, and succeeded in
rescuing the girl from a watery grave. :He then carried
her to the house of Mr. John Beddard, where she was
soon restored to consciousness, through the humane
attention of Mr. Beddard.-- Worcester Chronicle.
THE GREAT BELL, ITS SUCCESSOR, AND ITS DEPUTY.
Thomas Walesby writes It appears that .Dr.,
Percy has made his first report on the compositid of
the great bell—Big Ben the Second—at Westminster
Palace, to the Board of Works; while Mr. Cowper has
informed the House of Commons that the bell is cracked

seriously in several places. I therefore venture to asses
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confidently—notwithstanding all that has been said about
'sawing' and soldering'—that it is in vain to listen to
any proposals for ' doctoring' the wounds of poor Ben ;
for science and experiments have shown again and again
that there is no possibility of restoring a bell in such a
case so as to satisfy the musical car. The best course to
pursue will be to give proper instructions to our most
eminent founder to produce a bell fr9m his own metal,
for the quality of which he should be held responsible.
In the meantimeots I suggested in October last—the
chimes being silent.—let the clock strike the hours upon
the heaviest quarter bell, which ought to emit a deeper
xO4 than that of the peat bell at the Abbey."

be down directly." Witness went downstairs, and Mr.
Hatch followed him shortly afterwards with the children
Eugenie and Lucy. '
By Mr. Cooper—Mr. Hatch came down with the
children two or thr6e minutes after witness.
By Baron Chatyiell7—He might have been in the
house half an hour before Mrs. Hatch asked him to go
upstairs. Ho had sesn Mr. Hatch in the drawing-
room, but he could not say when he left the room. Mr.
Hatch said " Comeo " the instant he knccked at the
door.

Mademoiselle teethe Raffle, a young French lady,
who was on a visit at Mr. Hatch's at the time in ques-
tion, deposed that she was also in the drawing-room after
Mrs. Plummer left, Andehe saw what occurred in the
garden, . and gave Orular account to that deposed to
by the other witnesies, and she stated positively that no
act of impropriety was committed by Mr. Hatch
towards either of the children. This witness also stated
.that during the time she was stopping .in Mr. Hatch's
house she never saw anything in his conduct unbecom-
ing the character of a gentleman and the guardian of
children.

Cross-examined—Witness and her sister were boarders
at Mr. Hatch's. They paid him for the accommodation
he afforded them. She had no particular reason for
watching or looking at Mr. Hatch on this occasion.
They had their tea, and she thought no more of the
matter until it was called to her recollection about a
month ago. Mr. Hatch always appeared to treat the
children with the greatest possible kindness.
Mademoiselle Valerie Raffiel, the sister of the last wit-
ness, gave evidence to the same effect. She also said
that it appeared to her that Mr. Hatch did everything
in his power to make his home happy and comfortable
to every one in it.

By Mr: Cooper=Mr. Hatch was exceedingly kind to
both the children: He abted more like a fathet them a
tutor to them.