The Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1860-11-22 00:00:00

THE' IiAWIO3/191(TEAS ,AND‘ SIR It. W.
CAItbEN..

At the Guildhall Poliee-v!ffeei on Tue.sday, Mr. Ser-
ijeant Parry, itistructed by Mr. Alberi soliciyr to
the, Pawnbrokers' Association, attended before Sir
Carden, accompanied by the following deputation :—Mr.
LkOlr; of Flinglial-street ; Mr. Attenborough, Ox-
ford-street; ; Mr. Nathan, of
Limehouse; Mr. Walters, of Adttsgotesstreet ; .Mr. J.
Dicker, of Limehouse; Mr. Sowerby, 6lal'svtii,b:tteet;
Mr. Blizard, of Paddington ; Mr. G. Smith, of Cheiliet
Mr. Robertson, of Southwark ; Mr. Folkard, Vauxhall ;
Mr. Redpath, of Seymour-street; Mr. Child, of Shad-
well ; Mr. Dicker, of Camberwell ; and Mr. Avant, of
Yltet.street.

Mr. Serjeant Parry, addressing Sir R. W. Carden,
said==l ad/ going to ask, as a matter of courtesy, that
fort Will allow rite to make a statement on behalf of a
reapettable Cody of gentle-men. I represent the
pawnhroVerief the' ritettop'oiis, being instructed by their
trade association, the tifesiVerit Of which you are
acquainted with and know to be a' frklify tespectable
and honourable gentleman, and the statement liWe to
make to you is in reference to certain observations made
by you in a case in which a person named Graham was
accused of matters which, I have no doubt, form the
subject of very grave charges against him. It is not my
intention to offer any remarks upon that case, but merely
to remove from your mind an erroneous impression
*hi& gate rise to observations from you towards the
En ot the ease ;: and I think, Sir Robert, you
knout enough of lee to tee)' silted that I will not make
any remarks of an tinebateen&Ot di-Yespbetfuli chatratet.
The gentlemen I represent do note W:114. tri &eking this
explanation, to convey anything offensite or di
towards yourself, of whom I may say, as a magistrate,
they have the highest opinion. I hold in my hand the
shorthand writer's notes of that which fell from you on
the occasion, the effect of which was, that pawnbrokers
lent but a very small proportion of the value of property
pledged, and that when the property happened to have
been.ectolett ltd further inquiry was ever made about it
by the person' die ;' and, although pawnbrokers
,
were required to send it a't tte entl of twelve months
to a , public auction, and ke4 &beard of the
surplus, it was very rarely that such sUrpluS vialfepplied
for, so that a pawnbroker's profit on such transactions
was enormous, and in many instances induced them to
risk having to disgorge the property under circum-
stances like those then before the Court. That is the
part which affects my clients, and at which they feel
exceedingly annoyed. lam bound to tell you that the
Act of parliament compels them to send all unredeemed
pledg,eg W Ise sold by public auction, and, so far from
there being a large profit derived from such transac-
tions, I am prepared to show that they are the most
unremunerative branch of a pavnbtOkeris business. Mr.
Serjeant Parry having produced smile statNtic in sup-
port of his statement,
Sir R. W. Carden said,—l am very glad you hate
given me the opportunity of explaining that, far from
imputing any dishonourable conduct to the pawnbrokers
in general, I consider them a very useful body of men.
Some of them are guilty of indiscretion at times, and
we know that there are among the pawnbrokers, as
in every other trade, good, bad, and indifferent. There
are some who do not deserve the encomiums which I
am dispuseel to pass upon the gentlemen who have
cbm'e b'efore me to,elay, for in the case of Graham,
allifded to by the learned eoonsel, it was proved
that goods were pledged to the amount of £5OO, scarcely
half their wholesale ttade table, and we know what the
retail value is. In one instance the pawnbroker took in
valuable goods from a woman who_ gave two different
addresses, and I do say be ought to have been more
careful. I know that the general body of pawnbrokers
are respectable men, and I should be very sorry to cast
any imputation upon so respectable a body. You cer-
tainly have relieved my mind of a very great error, for
from the quality of the goods, and the value, I was led to
believe that if left unredeemed the amount advanced
would leave a profit which would justify the remarks I
made. Perhaps the gentlemen before me have been
more liberal in their advances, which would account for
the losses shown. At all events, I had no wish to cast
a slur upon the trade as a body, as they are not only
very useful in their business, but the information fre-
quently furnished by them in furtherance of the ends of
justice has been of great public benefit. _ _

Mr. SeijeantitParry again thanked the worthy alder-
man, and withdrew with the deputation.

The Grand Duke of Tuscany is at present staying at
Vienna, but will soon leave for Bohemia, where his
family possesses extensive estates, to which large addi-
tions have been recently made.
The Semaphore of Marseilles states that twenty-five
mare of the Irish Brigade who were taken prisoners by
the Piedmontese have arrived there on their way home.
They were sent to Marseilles by the Sardinian Govern-
ment.
THE FEMALE SCHOOL OF ART.—The exhibition of
paintings, drawings, sculpture, and other works of art,
will be opened early in June, 1861 ; the proceeds of
such exhibition, and sale of pictures, &c., to be appro-
priated to the fund now raising for a building. for the
permanent establishment of the Female School of Art.
The exhibition will terminate with a bazaar, for which
contributions are respectfully solicited, such contribu-
tions will be thankfully received by the superintendent,
at 43, Queen-square, London, on or before. the Ist
of May, 1861.
GARIBALDI.—We read in a Naples letter :—" The
Washington, which had returned to Genoa after having
Conveyed Garibaldi and his friends to Caprera, has again
quitted that city for the island, with Garibaldi's daughter
and the family of Col. Deideri. It was with this family
that Mdlle. Garibaldi remained during the war of inde-
pendence in Sicily and Naples. Colonel Deideri is the
most intimate friend of Garibaldi ; they both belong to
Nice, were at school together, fought side by side in
America, and have, in fact, scarcely ever been separate.
The colonel resembles Garibaldi, and is about of the
same age."
DEATH ON A RAILWAY. PAINFUL SIGHT. —On
Tuesday an old man was cut to pieces on the West
Midland Railway, at the Daisey Bank station of that
line, about three miles from Wolverhampton. Having
taken his ticket for Wolverhampton at about half-past
ten in the forenoon, he heard a train approaching, and
was about to cross the line, when he was told by the
station master that that was not the train that he wanted
to travel by. Nevertheless, the old man ran across the
line. .In his haste he could not obtain a firm footing
on the platform on the opposite side, and fell hack on
to the line. He leaped up again, but again fell back.
Before he could make a third attempt the train was
upon him, knocked him down, and, passim* Over him,
cut him to pieces. The sight was a most painful one to
the passengers at the station, by all of whom the unhappy
man's death was seen. It was afterwards found that he
was John Vale, a locksmith, of Walsall-street, Wolver-
hampton, and that he was 68 years of age. The train
by which he was killed was a goods train, and did not
stop at llaisey Bank.
SPECIAL SERVICES FOR THE WORKING CLASSES.—
Arrangements have been completed for a series of ser-
vices for the working classes, under the auspices of the
London Diocesan Home Mission, of which the bishop is
the president, and which will be held in various densely-
Populated districts of the metropolis during the forth-
coming season of Advent. Among the churches which
have been selected are St. George-in-the-East, All-
hallows, Thames-street; St. Matthew, Pell-street All
Saints, Spitalfields ; St. George, Ealing ; the parish
church of Hammersmith ; St. John, Bethnal-green ; St.
Giles-in-the-Fields, St. Leonard, Shoreditch ; and St.
Anne, Limehouse. The mission has at present six
clergymen at work under its auspices—two in the east,
one in the north, one in the north-east, and two in the
south-east of London. Another will be appointed at
the close of the present month, and the number will be
increased as soon as the state of the funds will admit of
additional appointments.
SERIOUS ACCIDENT ON THE MIDLAND RAILWAY.—
On Sunday morning last an accident of a very serious
nature occurred on the Midland Railway at Nottingham.
It appears from the facts adduced that on the morning in
question, about 4 o'clock, the mail train from Derby was
going to Nottingham, and when it arrived at the Midland
goods station of that town the engine-driver perceived that
the gates on the Victoria-toad (which is the principal
thorbughfare into the town) were shut. He immediately
put on full steam and dashed through them, while he and
the fireman threw themselves down between the engine and
tender, and thus escaped the flying missiles from the gates.
The cause of the accident is explained in the following
manner :—On the gate there are two signal lights, one
facing towards Derby, and the other towards the Notting-
ham passenger station. The light facing Derby had
gone out, and, although the engine-driver signalled
three times before reaching the gate, the two men on
duty, John Coultman and William Cort, failed to hear
them ; the consequence was that the gates were com-
pletely smashed. The train shortly afterwards arrived
at the Nottingham station, none of the passengers hav-
ing felt the least shock. It is suspected that the gate-
men were asleep at the time the accident occurred ; and
an inquiry is to be made into the matter.
AN INTERVIEW WITH ANTONELLI.—A correspondent
of the Patric, at Rome, gives an account of an inter-
view which he had a few days ago with Cardinal
Antonelli :—" The Cardinal received me with great
courtesy ; when I was announced, he rose, advanced
towards me, and with an amiable smile offered me a
chair by the side of his own. His Eminence is 'dill
young ; at least he is not so old as would be imagined,
considering the high dignities he occupies in Church and
State, and the length of time he has been known in the
political world; he is short, thin, and has that yellowish
complexion which is common at Rome. His appearance
at first view does not create a favourable impression ;
his eyes are deeply sunk and extraordinarily brilliant;
his regard is restless but piercing ; on his forehead are
wrinkles caused, not by age, but by overwhelming res-
ponsibility. As to the subject of our conversation, it
was, I confess, of little importance to politicians eagerly
desirous of diplomatic revelations. I was not up to the
mask of the President of the Pontifical Council of Minis-
ters, and he kindly placed himself on my level. We
spoke of Rome, of its ruins, of its monuments, and of
Franca, which his Eminence knows as well as if he had
resided in it for years. Of politics the Cardinal said
not a word. But in speaking of the commonplaces
referred to, and which are often so insipid, he displayed
great charm and good nature. The stay of the French
army of occupation at Rome would have appeared to me
a natural and convenient subject of conversation, but on
it the Cardinal maintained extreme reserve. He, how-
ever, gave me to understand that in his opinion our
troops really had nothing else to do than to live quietly
at Rome. He,- with a marked intention, reproached
the French with copying the uniforms of the Pied-
montese, and I could hardly help smiling at what he
said. lie afterwards spoke of the social relations to be
' formed at Rome, and promised me a pleasant winter
with balls and parties. From this I drew the multi-
' sion that in his opinion the French are not on the eve
of leaving the Eternal City, Such Was the substance of
our conversation.