The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
Dorchester, Dorset, England, 1874-07-14 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS

lloxosr. —There WWI • very large attendance. The second
reading of the Church Patronage (Scotland) Bill was moved by
the Lord Advocate in • speech of some length, in the course of
which he entered into an elaborate defence of the provisions of
the Bill. and contended that it was approved by • great
majority of the Scotch people. Mr. Baxter took an oppueite
view of the measure, and moved an amendment declaring
IgPalation on the subjoct to be inexpedient without further
Inquiry and information. air. Gladstone shortly afterwards
rose, and, in • vigorous speech, which was loudly applauded,
keenly analysed the various provisions ot the Itill,and condemned,
in emphatic language, nearly the whole of them. Ile exprewied
his belief that such • measure would muse an agitation for
disestablishment, and would prove most dangerous to the
interests of the Scotch Church. Ile intended to support the
amendment, because he believed there were other stem which
ought to be taken in the " interests of justice, propriety, and
prudence." The debate was adjounied.
slaty. --A Petition in favour of the Public Worship
Regulation Bill was presented by Mr. Floyer, from Abbot.-
bury.
land Titles and Transfer Bill, gave rise to a long debate.
It was however, read • second time.

WKDNIND T -The Liagal Practitioners 11111 .3.11 read a second
time • the L'hurch-ratos Abolition (Scotland) Bill, introduced by
icim,m, was withdrawn ; mid the tinier for the solxind
reading of Mr. liundellie Criminal Law Amendment Act(1071)
Bill was discharged.
TIICIUIDAT.—After a VIA number of petitions had been
presented for and against, the Public Worohni Regulation 13111,
but chiefly In Its favour, Mr. liummg. Brants moved the
second reeling of that measure, which he cmoinended to the
approval of the House on the ground that it would facilitate
the administration of the OliSLing law iii respect of ecclesias-
tical offences, and secure to the clenry their fair right...
Mr. proposed, as an amendment, that It was inexpedient
to proceed further with • measure for amending the s•lininis-
tration of the law In regard to the offunces against the rubrics
of the Book of Common Prayer while that law was In ah
uncertain condition.
. . .

The amendment having been ascended by Mr. K. ,
who was, in fact, its author,
Mfr. OLAIISTO3II rase, and at esmidemble length criticised
the pn,visi.ms of the measure lit an adverse spirit. Insisting
that the concurrence of the Government and the heade of the
Church was issential to the niasfactory solution of an ecclesias-
%Mal problem, he remarked that in this case the Bill had come
before Use House without the weight if authority which was
,losirable. It was a mistake to suppose that the question at
issue merely relatul to procedure, and he held that the liberty
which had been allowed ill various churches and congregations
of the Church IA England, and the customs and usages which
had hartulosly green up, ought not to be rudely and rashly
rooted up, whether they were accordant or not accordant to
the letter of the law. He objected, then, to contracting the
liberty of congregitUons in this respect. At the same time he
ebetild be glad if possible, though late in the session, to nuke
out of the Bill a safe, an effectual, and a wholesale mossure,
but that could only he done by ckangea no important no to he
fundamental. Ammut his other objections to the Bill wee
that Its silence gave • direct sanction to its Illegality, providing
the illegality were committed by the Bishop for • bishop
might go into any church in his diocese and commit any
illegality he pleased and be borne harmless. Another objec-
tion was to the creation of a judge with g3OOO a-year to be paid
out if money that should go to poor curates, In order that
they might all walk like the tiumle in the same uniform, at
the same step, and particularly at tile same wool of command,
eepseasing all genial, intellectual, and spiritual life, and that in
&manner which, however it might glorify discipline, would be
fatal to that which was better than discipline- —religious freedom.
Many persons are not swans of the number of Illegal things
- and of
.the k.ffal that comitted to be

that are done. things • -.are -- to
done In the Church of England, without suspicion, offence, or
notice. I bold In my hand nO fewer than 18 samples, out of
which Ido not know WV, to make • selecike To tage an
exatnple. No doubt many here present win be In church on
Sunday afternoon, but what will they say if they find that in
all the churches, Irrespective of their wishes, the children are
called up and catechised after the second lesson? But that
catechised ot the chiklreti is an absolute requisition with the
present law, and it Is almost universally neglected, because
where it is most carefully observed it is Out et according to the
letter of the present law, became many wise clergymen think
it is not advisable to overcharge the children with extremely
long services, and they gather them together apart from the
adult congregation. it is most unreasonable and outrageous,
because We do not want to encourage the excesses of ritualism,
that we should pais a law and put it into the power of an
Imllscrect bishop, with three aggrieved parishioners, to have
catechising enforced In one of the services of the Church,
according to the rigid rule of the rubric. To take another
example. Within the last thirty years the congregations of the
Church of Engistsl have taken valuable and important lessons
from their non conforming friends. They have made the
hymnal a most interesting and valuable portion of their services,
which before was • scandal in 00 eases out of 100, but It is open
to the gravest doubt whether, unless at the end of the third
collect, the singing of any hymn is lawful It isnot in the rubric,
and all onietsions proscribed in the speech and in the bill of
my right hon. friend, and there is • dictum of the Judicial
Committee of the Privy Council against all additions to or
omissions in the performances of the dim and services order
ht the Proyer.book—(hear, hear). Tea directions contained
in It must be strictly observed. I will next take the case of
the Athanasian Creed. There are. considerable number of
churches In the country in which that creed is never read—
(bear, hear)—but it kr positively prescribed by the rubric that
It Stall be read at least thirteen times a year, although we are
told that George 111 used to shut his book when in the
Royal, Windsor, when It wea read. There are manyCt=
good and pious Christians to whom It Is painful —(hear, hear).
And am I going to pses a law to put It Into the power of an
indiscreet bishop and three parishioners to compel the reading
of that creed in every parish church —(hear, hear). I speak iii
It bemuse It does not admit of the smallest doubt. The rubric
is positive and absolute, and I/ any ease Is brought before the
Jugs be will—he must enforce it. I reject the Idea that the
judge will wink at the law, and that the bishops will wink at
one another, and say we will only act In a particular sense. I
cannot believe in such an Imputation. I ant not ready to take
upon myself the responsibility of forcing the Athanashan Creed
upon others, and, although I have a great respect for law, yet I
will not undertake—this house will not undertake the responsi-
bility of pawns wools under which an indiscreet bishop and
three parishioners shall compel the reading .4 the Athanasian
Creed. There is another much-contorted question about the
noceesity of • separate and single delivery of the consecrated
elements in the Holy GIMMUrion. There are many clergymen
who my that the communicants are ato numerous that they are
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Is to retain 115 reputatiOn for sisdonilas the first dclihcr.tire
chamber In the world that we should cnanulne awl
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, done,he °braved that he should like to see • prorisi. m against the
Introduction of prrintate and sudden changes at the sole will
of the
eaehes the general feeling of the people.
In 'Cil2l7l7r. Gladstone laid tipm the table a eerie, of
resolutions which he signified his intention to propose, in care
the bill reached the stage of committee.
In the °WM CI the debate, Yr. Forsyth, Mr. Gordon, Mr.
thaDiFfolittnthe. gale
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and disntption In the Church.
' Yr. 8 Cars WWI prepared to give a hearty vote for the Rill
Sir W. V. HASCOrra Said what Parliament ought to do was
to mast the attachment of the people of England for the
Protestant Reformation, and he culled upon Ministers to have
the courage of the situation ; not to reduce the House of
0.10310005 to an impotence almost equal to that of of Convoca-
tion Itself, but to propound • definite principle, and say either
that the law was what it ought to be, or lilt were not, to say
what it ought tolls. ond propose Meani for enforcing IL They
could not get Ad of it by adjournment, or include It In the
massacre of the Innocents" and having fixed a day for it,
discussion,they must now see it through.
Yr. Hearer evoked • loud shout "Oh when, at the com-
mencement of his speech, he let It be understdod that It was
entagonlstic 16 the MIL Ile was cheers!: however, On
emithatically sensing ths attachment to the principles of the
HdormsUon. He went on to say that be was willing to protect
the laity against clerical exams, but he declined to be • party
to any measure that might hare the effect of driving into the