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In the EIOUSC of Lord.. June 3, Lord Lansdowne (In reply
to Lord Hertford) stated that, a request having been made
through the Foreign Office, permission had been given by the
Secretary for War to the baud of the Oreuadier Guards to
take part in the coming " World's Peace Jubilee and Musical
Festival" in the United States. The sanction of Her Majesty
and of the Field Marshal Commenalug-in-Chief had also been
obtained, and the bandsmen would go out in charge of an
officer of the regiment. The proceeding was declared to be
most irregular by the Duke of Richmond, arid was further
impugned by Lori e Eras, but was defended by Lord Gran-
ville as being accorded; to precedent, and uot likely to be
followed by any 111 consequences.
Earl Granville referred to the conversation which took
place ott Friday evening as to the negotiations with the
United States. The eontmunications, he said, were still con-
tinuing, and the only fact of importance was that Congress
had further possponeet ite adjourioment for a week. As
to any possible arrangement he Cr uld give their lordships
assurance whatever. He had obtained the consent
of his coolleagues to make some statement as to some
points in the negotiation It seemed that during
the recess some things had happened which tended
weaken what confident° their lordship, heel in her
Majesty's Govenduent. As to the publication of the Supple-
mental Article, it eas obtained surreptitiously by one of the
New York papers, and by the " enterprise ' of its proprietor
or editor. Their lordships seemed to think that the eleven:-
meat would give any to 'write compromise, mod had sug-
gested that he should consult the prefessional adviser of the
Crown. He had the opinion of the Attorney-General, the
Solicitor-General, and Dr. Deane, which was entirely con-
curred in by the Lord Chancellor and by Sir R. Palmer, and
that opinion was entirely saitiefactory to her Majesty's
Goverment. As to the correspottolence which had been
publiahed in which Mr. Fish maitotained the indirect claims
he had Idol a conversation with General Schenck, and told
hino it was on that point that the Supplemental Article had
been submitted to the Senate. The motet of difference be-
tween the Governmepts was toot with regard to this clause,
but with reepect to the exact event of the engagement by
which heth parties cote:emit would bind themselves for the
future, and he saw too reason why they should not come to
an agreement.
Lord Reseal, admitting that he was originally satisfied
with the Supplementary Article, said that, after the publica-
tion of the American correspondence, he had seen reason to
change his opinion. The danger that the Arbitrators might
regard themselves as in possessionof the Indirect Claims was
so great that eothing but an explicit declaration that they
were withdrawn could be Satisfactory. This could lie easily
done by a new Treaty. le concluaion, he gave notice that
be should proceed well his Rewolutii in the following day,
and take the setae of the House upon it.
Lord Cairns complaiheil that while Lord Granville hail
deprecated doscuseion, arid had refused to lay on the table
the text of the Supplementary Article, the Foreign Office had
forwarded a copy to wane of the newspapers. At-, donna the
imbibes of the Law Offleers of the CrOVIII was satisfactoly to
the Government, but the time had come when their lord-
saps scionet(6e eke Pclorerre
wilutery Ariicto tor themselvea liegardrirg it, en his .oWn
part, us pregnant with danger and incouveolci.ee in the
Israel'. he rejoiced that Lord Russell intruded to persevere
with lois Resolution,
lord Westbury did not want to gee the "Opinion" of the
Law (tfficers, but would peeler to see the "Case,"
Lord Granville said C at anything manual in the course he
had taker, was explathed by the fact that tio Fon ign Seer-buy
had ever been 1110 re cross-examined, althougor he had stated
that it was impossible for him to give the explanation.. re-
quired. There was great Rimini...knee during diplo-
matic negotiatiens in [less extra judicial opinions given
by lords Cairns and 44“tbury, to which a certain amonet
of judiclid weight 'MOIL be erroneeusly attached by the
people of both countries. When he asserted last year that
the Stanley-Johnson Treaty did not (unlade the indirect
Claims, but that the Treaty of Washington did, Lord Cairns
said that one Treaty did not exclude them mere than the ,
other, which was no depreciation of the Treaty negotiated
by the present Government.
The subject then dropped.
Lord Cemperdown (replying to Lord Lauderdale) defended
the Admiralty orders enjoinieg an economical cousuniption
of coal In the Navy, and said that no revised order. had been
issued which had tint been laid on the table.
Lord Lifford moved for a Select Committee on the Work.
big of the Landlord and Tenant I relate.) Act, 1670 and the
motion wets opposed by Lord Kimberley and the Lord Chan-
cellor. but on a division, the mutt,cs was carried ag,duat the
Government by a majoilly of 24.
The lord Chancellor'. Statute Law Revision Lill was read
a second time, and their Lordships aeljourneiL
In the House of Commons, Mr. Gladstone, replying to Mr,
Mitchell Henry said the attention of the Government had
been called to the reports of the judgment of Nor. Justiee
Keogh, but neither the Government air the public
were in. as yet, authentic possession of that judg-
ment. lie (Mr. Gladstone) was told that Justice Keogh did
not at all desire to be bound by the precise expressions
of the reports, and considered that they were in some
respects not likely to colivey his opinions in the
fullest and most satiefactory manner; lout as far as
the Government were concerned he did n. t think they
were entitled to interefere as an Executive °OVUM,
meat in this matter. The statute made frill provisions
for dealing with it. Under the statute it would be the duty
of Judge Keogh to make a report to the Speeker of the
House of Commons. Ile hail reserve.] a case for the Court
of Common Pleas, and after that had been disposed of, he
learned judge would make his report mid forward the evi-
dence to the Speaker. That would be the time for the
House procuring a copy of his judgment. Ile (Mr. Glad-
stone) thought it was peculiarly requisite in a ease of this
kind to allew the whole of the proceedings to take their
natural course before moving in the matter.
After Mr. Gladstone had made a statement respecting the
negotiations connected with the Washington Treaty, the
purport of which was similar to statemente made m the
House of Lords, Mr. Gladstone, in reply to Mr. Disraeli, said
that the proceedings of the Goverument would be to the
strictest conformity and consistency with the assurances
they had already given to the House.
The House, having gone into Committee of Supply, %teased
two votes of credit in the Civil Service Estimates, after a
protest from Mr. Cross, Mr. Rylauds, Mr. Diliwyn, Sir L.
Palk, and others against the practice of taking votes on
account. Mr. Diliwyn, to give stronger expression to their
protest, moved to reduce the amount granted by one half,
but was beaten by 202 10127.
The House was engaged for the remainder of the evening
in Committee on the Scotch Education MIL The first point
of controversy which arose was a question as to the appoint-
ment of a Scotch Board of Educatieon, which occupied se-
veral hours. The bill proposes that the control of Education
in Scotland shall be vested in a special Department of the
Privy Council, and on the first clause Mr Gordon proposed
an amendment designed to estalolish a Board of
Education in scotland. The LOrli Advocate at first
objected, pointieg out ire anomaly of committing
the control of Imperial fitude to 611 irresponsible statu-
tory Commission, and urging also that local control would
be secured by the School Board.. After a long discmsion,
In which many of the Scotch Liberal members expressed a
desire for a local Posed, the Lord Advocate offered to con-
sent to the app iintment of a temporary Board or Commis-
sion in Edinburgh, which should have chirge of all the
arrangements for putting the Act into operation, but whieh
should have no control over the finances. Mr. Gordon de-
clined to accept this compromise sod, going to a division,
was beaten by 253 to 197.
The Committee was then adjourned until the hollowing
morning's sitting after a motion to report progress had been
defeated by Me to 168.
On the third reading of the Act of Uniformity Amendment
BOA being moved. Mr. Bouverie renewed his endeavour to
strtke out of the Preamble the words recognizing the action
of Coevocatiou in the matter. For this purpose he moved to
recommit the bill, but on a divishm his motion was rejected
by 163 to SR
The bill was then read a third time and passed.
Several other bills were forwarded, and the House ad-
journed at twenty minutes to two o'clock.

In the Roue of Lords. June 4, Lord Granville In reply to
Lord Oranmore, who read the paragraph fro ii The Times on
the Supplementary Article) explained the circumstancel
under which the Article had beeu sent to The 1 ietee from
the Foreign Office. He also pleasantly informed Lord West-
bury that the .• Caere which had been submitted to the Law
Ogieers of the Crown upon his suggestion consisted entirely
of The Tireee' report of Lord Weatbun's own speech, to the
correctness of *Lich he bore pereonal testimony.
Lord Russell then rose to bringon his long-deferred Resolu-
tion against going in with the Getwva Arbitrati•in until the
Indirect CiaMs were withdrawn. Premising that this king-
dom was in his ipinion fully equal to the United States or
any other State in the world in point of diplomacy, he re-
capitulated the circumstances which would, in his opinion,
justify the Governmeot in declaring that try winld not
negotiate on the bruit of a Treaty to which they had never
beeu parties. It was now exactly twelve months since
the Treaty came before their lordships, and yet the question
wash. the same state of doubt and anxiety as when it was
originally raised. Great Britain would never pay a farthiog
of damages on the ground of the Indirect Claims, arid tier
Maji aty's Government would be placed In an ignominious
position if they fee nil themselves before a Tribunal which
took these claim into consideration .1' hey should, then ,fore,
speak plainly, and tell the American Government that
uutll those claims were withdrawn no n presentative
of Her Majesty's Government should appear at
Geneva. What the Americans respected in Ili was the
quality vulgarly called pluck." It was evident from the
correspondence surreptitiously published that the views of
the two Governments were as wide as the poles asunder. If
this were frankly acknowledged, the present Treaty might
lapse, but at some future time the American Government
would be guided by counsels of alsdom and coeciliation.
ACClleing her Majesty's Government of great negligence in
not urging the claims of pie Canadians for compensation for
the Fenian raid, he called upon their lordships to affirm his
Resolution and to thew that they were not wanting in regard
for the honour of the British Crown.
Lord Granville, after pointing out that the American Tele-
graphic Correepoudence was not applicable to the present
state of the negotiations first defended individually the com-
position of the Commissien, and then confidently asserted
that they had done their work well. The one omission in the
Treaty was to regard to the lofted Claims, arid upon this
point he again asserted that neither Her Majesty's Government
nor that of the Culled Statcs intended to include the Indirect
Claims in the Treaty. Desiring to avoid anything like recrimi-
nation, he declared that Her Majesty's Government had re-
ceived from the British Conimissioners a distinct statement that
the American Commissioners had waived the Indirect Claims.
They were also waived by the Protocol anal by the Ireaty
itself. Citing high English and American authorities to show
that the Indirect Clahus were kept out of the Treaty and
waived by it, he added that Her Majesty's Government
would stand better before the world should the Treaty fall
to the ground—which was not yet certain—if they exhausted
every possible means of arriving at a satisfactory conclusion.
After the declaration Ile had made last night the present
vote of censure was unnecessary aud injudicious, and
would throw immense responsibility upon the Horse. If
the Government were turned out of office a week after the
Treaty was agreed to he irl nlii not utter a single word of
complaint, but he depc cated a coarse which would destroy
the only chance of meintainieg the Treaty, which would
envenom the feeling lietween the two countries if it failed,
and which hail been by iniplication condemned by the leader
of the Opposition in the other House. Real courage wan
shown by a determination not to give up one jot of the
dignity and honour of the country, while all irritatiug ex-
pressions and resolutions were avoided.
After expressions of opinion from Lord Grey, Lord
Stratford de Redellife, Lord Derby, anal Lord Kimberley,
Lord Ripon asked whether it was wise or patriotic to inter-
pose et this critical monteet and tie down the Government
by a Resolution asking the United Strive to do that which
Me Disraeli had stater% at Man-heater it was impossible for
the President to agree to. Defending blmself ar;ainet Lord
Salishery'staunts tor Lot haviiig taken a previoes share in these
discussions, he Feld he Lad been anal was still. determined that
no word stn. d fall from bin, ti impair the possibility of
friendly settlinient. Flaying pointed out certain con-
traditions in previous speeches, he warmly denied that
the British Commissioners bad knowingly employed laeguage
admitting the Indirect Claim with a primate understanding
that those Claims were not to be brought forward. It
would neither have been safe nor justifiable to rest
our Case on such an miderstanding, and the Claims
were, in the opinion of the Commissioners, excluded by the
fair interpretation of the Treaty. The Government hail de-
clared that it was not their intention that these Claims
should be submitted to Arbitratimi. If their lordships had
no confidence in this declaarati si they would do better to
pass a vote of No Confidence. T • agree to the Resolution,
on the other hand, would only ielieve the Government Irian
their present responsibility, and transfer it to their lordshipn.
The discussion was continued by Lord Malmesbury, L rd
Westbury, Lord Rosebury, mail Lord Cairns, after wh ch the
Lord Chancellor moved the adjonrnment rif the debate. The
Opposition appeared to wish to maks the division on the
adjournment an trial of strength, and the motion for adjourn-
ment was on a division regatived by a majority of 40, the
Not Contents being le% and the Contents 85.
Lord Klnnaird, on the plea that some of the speakers hail
been discussing the Treaty, and not Lord Russell's motion,
then MOVed the adjnurnment of the House, whereupon the
re,ke •-f Pi liruotad gave way, and the debate was adjourned
until Thursday.

Their lordships adjounied shortly after one.
The Home 01 Commons had its test Morning Sitting on
Tuesday to forward the Committee on the Scotch Education
Mill. Clause 1 the Definition Chuse—was agreed to
without further discussion, but Clauses 2 and 3, which re-
late CO salaries and duties of the Scotch Education

Department were postponed until the Lord Advocate has
',ought up his scheme for constituting the Scotch
Board pa. ,Gaisiundriaion. The greater part of the
, was bcdupbed isitilseussing an amendment to Clause 4
-iection of School Boards), moved by Mr Gordon, who de-
Sired to except the existing parish schools from the new
administration, unless there are proved educational defi-
ciencies. The Lord Advocate strongly opposed the amend-
ment, chiefly on the ground that it would make it impossible
to establiAl an tudform system of education. in the end the
amendment was negatived by 222 to 177, and the clause was
agreed to. At Clause 6 the Committee was adjourned until
Thursday.

The third reading Id the bill perpetuating the Act passed
In 1869 to facilitate the resignation of Bishops was opposed
by Mr. Dickinson. who movrd that it be read a third time
"this day three 'moths " Mr Gladstone defruded the bill,
and, after some observation. from Mr. Binnaird, the debate
stood ndj,urned at seven o'clock.
The Evening Sitting was devoted to the consideration of
various suggestions 1, d. facilitating the progress o business
in (ho House. Mae were 12 or 18 kesolutlons on the paper.
Mr. Hughes obtained leave to bring In a Bill to amend the
Law rsliiiig to Betting.
The Sites for Public Worship and Schools Bill was con-
sidered in Committee, several other Bill were forwarded a
stage, and the House adjourned at five minutes past 2 o'clock.

In the House of Commons, June 5, on the report of the
Enropean Assurance Society Bill, the adjourned debate on
Clause 25 was resumed, and the clause having heen agreed
to, the report waa adopted, and the bill steeds for the third
reading.
Mr. U. Foster moved that the order for the third reading
of the Birmingham Sewerage Bill upon Thursday next be
discharged, and that the bill be recommitted to the fernier
committee.
Sir R. l'eel rose to a point of order, and said that according
to the rules of the House it was impossible for the motion
to be put, because the House had already fixed the said read-
ing for Thmsday, and this was a motion &Midi sting it. It
waa a most iniquitous hill, and he should resist it to the last.
Mr. Stunts r xi:lathed that the bill was unanimously pas**l
by the committee, and that he now c4inside-red that tile
causes inserted were not the 4.1 .UB4-8 which they heti agreed
upon, and it was now asked that the bill should be recom-
mitted, in order to "consider it en Friday.
The Speaker rulmi that the motion was in order.
After some remarks from several hon. members, the quea.
lion was put.
Sir It. Peel moved the adjournment of the debate.
Some further discussion ensued, and ultimately the
motion for adjournment of the debate was agreed to.
in the motion f,.r gAng tutu committee upon the itegistra-
tMis of Borough Voters Bill,
Mr Matthews moved that the House would, upon that
day three months, re:olve itself leto the said c,mmittee. Ile
said that at this pet iod of the session it was impossible that
such a bill, when in charge et a private member could be
passed, and he objected to it because it made an alteration in
the qualifications of Parliamentary electors, and would in-
_teem., with their rights. The
_principle of the bill was to
introduce a new officer called the regnitrar, who wax Cu saran'
se& the overseers ami the town clerk. This new officer
would be open to to, at influence, and as his duties would be
in a large measure those appellate and judicial duties
now exercised by revising harristers, this would be most
dangerous. The bill also imposed upon him the duty of ob-
jecting to voters, it nude hen also notice-server and taxing-
master of his own costs. There was a great possibility that
this new officer would in ni sly cases Ile appointed liy the
sown Council I... Callee lie was a violent political partisan
the hon member criticised the provisims of the bill, and
contended that it was intended hy them to make the regis-
trar virtually the manager of the registration, and upou
these grounds he opposed the motion for going into com-
mittee.

Sir C. Wingfield seconded the amendment.
Mr. V. Hart-met said that the defects of the present
system of registration wera so great that the House had
unanimously appointed a select committee to cm,ider the
matter, and that committee unanimously agreed with the re
commendar which it iris the object of this bill to carry -
out. Ihe bill, with the exception of a few slight details, was .
the same as that is hich had passed the committee last year. .
It was necessary that there should be a reform of tile
present system under which the lists of vote. s were made
out by the rate o (Hectors acting in close and friendly re
lath ins with the agents of the registration societies.
Mr. Goldney acid that it would be impossible to carry such
a bill this 8.8i01., es it was 33 per cent, longer and much
more intricate than the Ballot Bill.
Mr. Bristowe said that the bill would increase the cost of
registration to the ratepayers to a viny serious extent. It
would also place great authority and power in the hands eta
person whom he considered to be a moat unlit and improper
person for the discharge of the duties The registers would
practically be made out by the same persons as at pre,eut,
and there was so guarantee that there would be any improve-
ment.
Eventually, Mr. Harcourt consented to withdraw the hill,
after the expression of opinion agaiu.t it which had been
elicited.
Mr. Matthews declined to withdraw his amendment ; and
on the question being put, the ameurlinent was carried amid
some cheers.
Mr. H. C. Raikes, in moving the second reading of the De-
famation Of Private Character Bill, explained that its object
was to make more strut . eat the laws fir the protection of
private character. It proposed that the esti ting penalty of
one year's imprisonment for publishing a defamatory (though
true; libel, and of two years' imprisonment for a similar
offence when the libel was untrue, should be accompanied by
hard labour at the discretion of the curt . that the offence of
endeavouring to extort money by threats should be punish.
able by flogging, and that the same punishment should attach
• to the offence of muleavmtring to extort money by a threat
to accuse the chastlsty of a woman.
Sir W. Lawson intimated that the hon. member for
Leicester would oppose the flogging clauses in committee.
Mr. Lowther hoped those clauses would be wit hdrawn, as
it would have a brutalising effect upon our criminal code to
apply such a punishment to all sorts of offences.
Mr. Straight hoped the proposal for punishment by flm,-
ging for the secoud class of offences would be withdrawn,
but thought that severe rneasnres should be taken to
prevent a repetition of a class of r. fleeces of which there
had lately been an exhibition in one of the metropolitan
policwcourts.
Mr. Winterbotham declined to commit the Home Depart-
ment to the details of the measure, but would not oppose
the second reading.
Sir C. B. Addcrley said that the punishment of flogging for
garrotting had been very effectual, but the question whither
it would be equally effectual in offences of this class would
have to be carefully considered in committee.
After a few words from Mr. Talbot, the bill was read a
second time.
Mr. Gregory moved the second reading of the Middlesex
Registration of Deeds Bill, which was identical with the
measure which had been before the House last year,
but had been withdrawn on the Government promising •
to take up the matter, which they had, however, failed
to do. the honourable gentleman was understood
ti say that the number of registrars at the Middlesex
Registry bad been reduced to two, owing to the refusal
of the Government to till up vacancies, and that these
gentlemen divided the whole of the fees amongst them,
the werk being done by the clerks The bill was intended
to remedy this state of things, and to remove the anoma-
lies which existed in the system of registering deeds in
Middlesex.
Mr. 3l'Mahon advised the hon. member to withdraw the
measure until that promised by the Lord Chancellor should
be iutrodmed. He moved an amendment that the bill be
read a second time that day six months.
After remarks from seer ral other hon. members,
The Attorney General intimated his objection to it, because
whilst failing to touch the abuses themselves, it abolished
the whole system.
The hilt 'was then withdrawn, and the other orders of the
day having been disposed of the House adjourned.