The Stourbridge Observer, Cradley Heath, Halesowen & District Chronicle.
Stourbridge, West Midlands, England, 1880-08-28 00:00:00

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT.

In the Hon
Anderson, PE OP Common, August 2R, in answer to Mr.
that the B!rd C. Dilke said ther4 was no truth in the report
on the a
con'irary,
fugitive from the Sultan's harem had been strangled;
Well it had been ascertained that she was quite
and ?bout to be married.
In au' Aver to Lord R. Churchill, Mr. Forster said the
I,7lvoerrne ',lent did not think it necessary to ask Parliament
tion the prorogation to confer additional and excep-
the powers on the Irish Executive. As to the future,
righ he had absolutely no fear of a rising, there was
t'reth_ cause for anxiety with regard to outrages on indi-
; ;numbs , and if, in the course of the autumn or winter,
ale Government found exceptional powers necessary for
the protection of life and property, they would not hesitate
to call Parliament together for the purpose. But, he added,
the Government did not expect that this necessity would
,arise. In answer to Mr. M'Carthy, he said that, though they
.l'egretted the refusal of the Land League to give evidence,
the Government had no izttention of altering the constitu-
tion of the Land Act Commission.
A question from Mr. Finigan as to the fatal use of the
new bieckshot cartridge employed by the Irish police at the
dots at Dungannon last week led to a preliminary discus-
mien on the armament, constitution, ex., of the con-
itabulary. Mr. M. Henry moved the adjournment of
he House for the purpose of impressing on the Irish
158eretary the unnecessarily cruel character of the buck-
'allot cartridge in comparison with the rifle bullet.
opinions were expressed by Mr. O'Donnell,
Parnell, Mr. O'Shaughnesay, Mr. Callan, Mr. T.
'Sullivan, and Mr. Biggar; while Sir P. O'Brien strongly con-
demned the party processions out of which these riots
_arose. On the other hand, Mr. Childers was of opinion
that buckshot was more humane in dealing with mobs, and
lunch less likely to injure innocent persons •, and Mr.
orster explained that the change had been made on the
advice of experts from motives of humanity.
Mr. Dillon moved the adjournment of the House in order,
as he said, to give Mr. Forster an opportunity of explaining
_.the epithet "wicked and cowardly," which he had applied
'Lc him. The Chief Secretary, he said, was welcome to
,Abuse him in any way he pleased, but he objected
40 the epithet • wicked " because it involved those
With whom he acted in the Land League, and who,
be asserted, were perfectly justified in the advice they gave
the tenants to resist an unjust law. This advice he declared
ne should repeat if necessary at every meeting he attended
in Ireland ; and if bloodshed occurred, the responsibility
Would rest with the Minister who used his powers to enforce
What he himself had declared to be cruelly unjust.
Mr. A. O'Connor, in seconding the motion, said he did not
tegard obedience to English-made law in Ireland as a matter
et moral obligation, inasmuch as the present laws, based on
force, were perhaps the most cruel ruthless, and stupid ever
huPosed by one people upon another
Mr. Forster said he had no correction to make in his
Veech, and he adhered to every word of it. To prove
zne justice of the epithet "wicked and cowardly," he
analyzed Mr. Dillon's speech, and layibg special emphasis
en the suggestion that the cattle placed on the lands
et evicted tenants "would not 'prosper," he read ex-
tracts from the police reports ti barbarous outrages per-
Petrated on animals. The. speech, he insisted, was an
incitement to break the ;Am, and he assured Mr. Dillon
and his friends that no,
language of theirs would induce the
Sovernmezit to relay
. their determination to protect life and
property, nor wee;id it compel them to bring in any special
ineatala.;,..,,'LP,_f°u, "kiss they found it absolutely impossible to
—"'"uL" Law, and order without It; and above all, it would
not deter 'diem from proposing at the earliest possible
°,.l?l_auf such measures as they might deem necessary for
'...Cettng the relations of landlord and tenant in Ireland.
_ Mr. Sullivan warmly defended Mr. Dillon, insisting that
73 he had been guilty of what Mr. Forster laid to his charge
Eke should be prosecuted, and not stigmatized as a coward.
Mr- M. Henry strongly protested against the ambiguous
,
'anguage used by agitators in Ireland, which, if it meant
alrY. thing, was an incitement to insurrection and physical
mite.
The O'Doneghue desired to endorse every word of Mr.
441.1.011's speech, and declared that the Irish farmers would
l'eslat unjust eviction.
Sir P. O'Brien spoke in the same strain as Mr. Henry, and
though he thought " cowardice " an improper word to be
aPplied to Mr. Dillon, vehemently denounced the "American
adventurers" who were endeavouring to mislead the people.
The debate was continued by Mr. Finigan and Mr.
O'Donnell, who severely reproached the Government with
tailing to bring in the measures which they acknowledged
' Were needed, and warned Mr. Forster that his political re-
PUtabion Was doomed. After this,
The Marquis of Hartingten appealed to the House to pro-
ceed be the practical consideration of the Irish Estimates,
and not to prolong a discussion on the condition of Ireland
Which was inopportune, and could lead to no result. The
Lellifficulty of governing Ireland at this moment, which had
"en increased by the action of the House of Lords,
Would be still further increased by slice a die-
°nasissn. If the hope of a good harvest were
teal:had, probably many of those difficulties would dis-
ajDear • but it was admitted that during the present
lon'the Government could not bring forward any men-
for the relief of the Irish occupier. As for Mr. Dillon's
„,„—"Plansation, the Marquis WU of opinion that it had not
~„I'eat , affected the original impression that it was a veiled
40
:I,e_. to physical force, and no man, he held, ought to use
Language unless he himself was prepared to run the
risk of following his own advice.
-„,_The debate was continued by Mr. Commins, Mr. Byrne,
41'-r.„„ • Barry, Mr. Biggar, Mr. Sexton, Mr. T. O'Connor, Sir M.
j°l4OlEll-Beach, Mr. Parnell, and other hon. members, and
....
-,,-Teutnally a division was taken on the question that the
•''-ouee do now adjourn, which was negatived by 127 to 21.
At one o'clock the House went into Committee of Supply,
and Prooeeded with the consideration of the Irish Esti-
tastes.
The House adjourned at twenty-five minutes to three
o'clock.

In the Hones or LORDS, August 24, Lord Granville lugreply-
to a question from Lord Emig read a telegram contain-
tag the announcement of the sortie near Candahar, pub-
lished in the papers of Wednesday.
The Lord Chancellor, in moving the second reading of the
limployers Liability Bill, stated that the subject with
which the measure dealt was one of great importance,
and one which, on their assumption of albs), Her
tgesty's Government thought required and was ripe for
lation. When introducing the Bill they knew
that its details would necessarily require close ex-
amination. That they had received during the pas-
'le'e of the Bill through the other House, and it came to
their lordships in a shape generally acceptable to both em-
ployers and employed The noble and learned lord then
• explained what the existing law as to the liability of em-
g:Yere ll' quoting the dicta of several learned Judges for
b.nittlyP_Ose of showing the extent of that liability. He
the.masat that the first case in which the question of
Came before' liability for an Injury done to his servant
followed. bull Courts was in 1837. Several other cases
empleyre„t tra. Years after the doctrine of "common
pBr
tu7. d e n
Re e e
chThdd
eri never been heard of is our juris-
-1 arnate
on t
°etrine was brought to its culmination in
raised zed it as a remarkable supers
g superstructure
po"u 3c tile fftedations of general principles, general
% and judicial reasoning. He admitted that the Judges
were bound
neral by precedent, —e and must endeavour to decide on
tegislatPnneiPl" ; but he said no one could deny that the
r nre 'night go further and examine principles, and
an e a justice required it Parliament ought to put
nu to a superstructure built on such foundations.
'any, in the light of reason and common sense, the
Person in the employment of a master should be taken
to have been contracted out of the claim which any
ether person in the community would have against that
Master for the negligence of his agent was what he could
/tot See; and to say that the wages received by the servant
covered his risk was, in his opinion, begging the question.
Re held that, if a contract were to be implied at all, the
master contracted with the servant that the machinery and
rant which the latter had to useshould be sound and fit for
e purposes to which they were to be applied. After an ex-
haustive history of the question itself, the noble and learned
lord explained the provisions of the Bill. He next applied him.
8511 to the objections against the measure, treating as a mete
Chimera the fear that it would cripple any branch of our
ulanufaesuring industry, and quoting statistics to prove that
Dre Position. He ridiculed the idea that the Bill would lead
to constant litigation, while admitting that, where there was
an allegation of contributory negligence, cases under it
would find their way into the courts. In Clause Ihe would
wont the words 'stock in trade" after the words aimed
ageing, t the defects in machinery and plant. He concluded
RV an earnest appeal to the House to pass the Bill in the
interests of justice, and in order to bring our law on this
albject more in harmony with that of other nations.
Lord Crsuibrook, while not opposing the second reading,
found fault with the Bill on the ground that its provisions
were wide and loose, whereas the enactments of such a
measure ought to be close and precise. He did not believe
there were five men in the Cabinet who would give the same
Interpretation to any clause in the Bill.
Lord Brabourne characterised the Bill as an insidious
attack on the doctrine of common employment. He denied
that it was a compromise between the employers and the
V.ployed, and said it could not be, because the former re-
f cel ved nothing under the Bill, and only asked to be let
_.
; while the agitators on the other side avowed that
they accepted all they received under the measure as merely
an instalment. He asked whether masters and workmen
Would be able to contract themselves out of the Bill, and
'Whether, if a workman did contract himself out of it and
Were killed the contract would terminate with him and bar
ah action by his representatives. The noble lord then
wltered on a vindication of railways, and a cora-
Plaint that the Legislature was always seeking to inflict
new burden on those undertakings. He highly praised
l'ae railway servants, and assured the House he would vote
tor *h..
Bill if he thought it was necessary for, or would be
"—`Yantageous to, that body of men. He expressed his opinion
+l.._
the Bill would be an evil to both masters and men, and
trolteeted against the principle, or want of principle, em-
ss_uled in it. In an earlier period of the Session he would
_`wvernoved to refer the Bill to a select committee. To do
"lit sow would be to move its rejection. He would not
%lux that responsibility, but would endeavour to amend the
In Committee.
,014,,rd Carnarvon, though thinking that certain provisions
Bill were open to objection, could not concur in the
▪ e condemnation of it which had been pronounced by the
lord who had just addressed the House. The real
stion was how far should the responsibility of the em.
extend. He submitted that on the face of it there
anomaly in the Government, as large employers. of
• declining to impose on themselves what they um-
on other employers of labour.
biLat e Duke of Somerset approved the principle of the Bill,
ce_argued that the clauses would require amendment in
~.24ra1ttee. Only that the Session was so advanced, he
nld like to see the Bill referred to a select committee.
bAnI4Jd Stanley of Alderley also thought that the Bill would
--4,•ere amendment in Committee.
e Bill was then read a second time.
Post-Office Money Orders Bill passed through Com-
anttek
ile'veral other Bills having been advanced a stage, their
s adjourned at ten minutes past eight o'clock.
the ROUSH OP COMMONS, on the motion for going into
*R::_sralnittee of Supply, Mr. O'Donnell directed attention to
e
th„3,otl2titution of the Royal Irish Constabulary, and moved
pail."t was unconstitutional and inexpedient to grant sup-
public money for the maintenance of a force whose
..7',lations and rules of discipline had not been communi-
-"vu to Parliament.
If° elle rising to second the resolution, the subject was sot
Plussed.
• r• Ashrnead-Bartlett (in accordance with aotiee) pre-
to call attention to the condition o lthe surviving
as einetan population of Bulgaria and Eastern Roumelia,
ta:the barbarous oppression to which they had been sub-
acted during and since the Russo-Turkish war. In conclud-
Ids observations, Mr. Ashmehd-Bartlett moved a Resolu-
alvn_erabodying his recommendation that a Commission
°Qat be sent to the spot.
thBe/V. Harcourt remarked that it was unfortunate that
Motion should have been made at a time when the Prime
and the 'Under Secretary for Foreign Affairs were
Unavoidably absent. The Alotion was one, however,
4,,.-Leh neither her Majesty's Ministers nor the House could
earpt. H Majesty's Government had always desired that
42,4-sce and humanity should be observed with regard to all
'leases of the inhabitants of those countries, whether Ifussul-
tn_. or Christian, and with that object they had instructed
b.nr_rePresentatives to make urgent and energetic lemons-
against the commission of outrages upon any portion
.ue Population.
*• 111'
.• A shraead-Bartlett asked leave to withdraw his motion,
"lt the House refused, and negatived it without dividing.
Mr. Parnell called attention to the Parliamentary rela-
tion
of Great Britain and Ireland, and moved the following
I.T• solution :—" That in the opinion of this House, the rejec-
t :ten of the Compensation for Disturbance (Ireland) Bill by
;•;;;!Eielase of Lords adds one more to the many overwhelming
ral Li afforded since the IJ.nion of the necessity for such a
efeetl,_ellange in these relations as will permit legislative
future to the voice of the vast majority of the
ecs,ors
`•••• Ireland constitutionally expressed."
Le.ne debate ensued. Eventually the subject dropped,
attEnnPted•
'—'elieaffe went into Committee of Supply, and again
The rt progress with the Irish Estimates.
Wl Ho to make gr
adjourned at five Minutes to two o'clock.

tn:lll.._e Earl of Carnarvon, at his half-yearly rent audit
H
ity. "is Righelere estate in ampshire, returned his tenants
inuctwer cent. upon the hali-year's rent. At previous audits
It larger allowances were made, but en these °mask"'
"4514.41114. was considered individual'''.