The Stourbridge Observer, Cradley Heath, Halesowen & District Chronicle.
Stourbridge, West Midlands, England, 1873-06-28 00:00:00

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mad 111 did
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bear 4 Roger
-- Rorer

•ome Amex* might well-jog mails at times, Mr. itosely nGmfordot refer to lass Halos, but to a
itmanton ; at. , betug asked about her,
Let OS take into eanoideralion his long hours, all he had heard a. r mention her name, that wu all.
his eitpoeure to all weathers, the uncertain Seine Raked whether Roger hot net eudded to hlm private
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and precarious nature of his earnings, and the (to=y not never" (Ibis was with a view tli rofre
abeence cf domestic comfort in his ease, and set that lady, and not to Miss Doughty, the passage in the letter
Oureelves whether under similar circumstances we /Intiliinenenthandvann untryilloid
2—Sly private wl'hes sadie-
should invariably he patterns of amiability. See him was then pressed as to whether the pummel In that letter
&sleep on hie box hi the middle of the night, with the rid. relitirttr,
haiiabardoiceilaiideaofmP.rr3hig liar,
treacherous dew enveloping his garments, and contrast but the Lord Chief Justice pointed out that these manages
such enatches of slumber with the rest which is taken related to Roger's will, and a will only took effect on • man's
death,
by the humblest labourer in the poorest of one corm- Mr Goateed was thsn asked,—Did Roger ever give you
ties. There are, of course, queer specimens of cabmen arything except that little piece of paper sealed up 7—No,
las of other workers in the hive of industry, but as a n dii gm: h
isut ei
tvoe
ro. no
fntoho.cter_l44n,n e
body Ido not think they deserve the censure which Is At the timehe gave you the seeleil pecket, In the autumn
PO frequently Irassed upon them. When they are of 1852, did he not i. Ivo you some other things?— Ile did
accused of systematic improttion, it should not be for- rertesiX om„;anor,e"paalve:ir,Prirt.utlythelsnturi tig,bl !el
gotten that the provocation they receive is often great, nothing else.
for there are many with whom "dishing a cabby" is a
v7is!rn. Re4ord was then asked as to a letter of Roger's from
no
feat not only to be practised, but made a matter for e‘hoicehlt'mrlnie'!" wahnid'hhehesasaldhe‘th".T,g7Prnfe.haerte:t he
congratulation. could not go to Tichhorne. Asked whether Roger did not
tell him of the scene which had uccorral 8, teem n himself
The Directors of the Alexamira Palace Compary and Mr F. Doughty, be said, no lie ben said before, that
showed truly British p`uck in d,ci ling at once to re. Loegneorti'dhe7c;rd greet
nlvg r‘b rie tosrs,n,vdsbowiitreot
t hts
construct the buildity:, and we have lh,t, Irld long to uncle told him he count not allow Ala daughter to marry
wait for the ways arid means of doing on. The present the son of a bastard Mr Gesforl sold with 1:01101 warmth
capital of the undertaking tea million sterling, aml it szzliten, sunrnedst•nE szrrit wnolalroi
nin,rervetx
have
is proposed to authorise an Imam !late issue of £lbo,ooo have invented so alto ions a fele hood. Asked whether
Six Pcr Cent First Preference Shares at £lO each. No Lally Joieps was not t Ibldden to come ii Tichborue, he
time is to be lost in commencing the work, and it is The Lord Chief Justice observed that the letters showed
anticipated thst the new building will be completed that she wee invited to Tichborne, and would not nine
within twelve monthe. There is uudoubtedly romn Ounjoritllieliii-rnY•hpolled I: calnrtte';'Xclibst re'ell that she
for such an institution at the northern ride of London, had beers there.
and the popular favour bestowed upon the late Palace nor lime:game
Ind Ifmr,
tte,l,7 ri
oaLt orth (xi hnnadr.
during its brief existence showed that it was likely to thinly not. Asked whether it ger was not sensitive as to
bold its own against any competitor. The Directco's
express
nr,thr, r, he said he p, f
her lag, oflliits, teu,Umsedwto
of the Crystal Palace at Sydeuhrun have given a benefit eaFlreedsstor aestp refir,entinat
a letter' of Roger's, 26th of Jimmie,
in aid of the fund for relieving the sufferers who lost 1852:—" I hope so in to hear from Lily richborne. I hope
she will not show much diplomacy ; things are much too
so much in the late fire at Muewell-bill. near a crisis," dre. too
Ile WAS asked whet It referred to, and he
sail It referred to the prolniblldy of a match with some
other person.
rne Lord Chief Justice observed that as Roger had Just
left Tichhome, and had there given his cousin • copy of the
pap. r deposited in January, he had supposed it referred to
Roser himself.
hit Gosford said it did not The understanding was that
there was to be 00 engagement between him and his 0011BiO.
There was another gentleman whom he supposed Lady
Doughty had In view, and the passage hal reference to
that. Alluding to reports to the preJu Ice of hoger, he said
they had reference to his drinking B-leg asked whether
they had not reference to women, he eatel he was sure they
had not.
The Lord Chia Justice said Lady Doughty's letter explain.
lag her maims spoke for itself. and there was not the most
remote ret rence to such a topic. There was not • word in
the letters which had the slightest reference to it.
Mr. Justice Mellor, Mr. Justice Lush, and one of the Jury
made similar observations. The witness also again emu
firmed it entirely. Ile had never heard from anybody that
Roger had been guilty of any impropriety with reference to
women. Alludinit to • pasaa.e In a letter of Roger, of July,
1,62, hal no ide• that her Ladyship was ins hurry ; things
are going on rather fa t at Dehhorne," oc., he said there ex-
preeslma referred to the ideas of a possible marriege between
his couttn and somebody else. Allmting to melt expressions
as i• I never thought things would come to such a painful
concludon for me,- he said he believed they related to his
own disappointment. Alluding to • peewee° In another
letter of Rogers from Upton in August, 1552—" I with to
have a private conversation with you on some private
budness"—afr. God' rd siald he did not remember sow to
what it referred, but he was sure it was of no Import-
ance. Alludise t i another expressiou in a postacritt to a
letter of November ?A—. Have you slept well' -he
was asked whether Ricer had not told him something
that spoilt Me sleep, to chicle Mr. Omford answered laugh-
ingly that It referred to ids being kept up till three in the
morning by Roger, talking and smoking, and drinking
brandy and water.
Upon your oath, had he not told you, Sir, at that inter-
view 7
Mr. Gosford Upon my oath, he had not.
Mr. K eneels seemed to know what was coming
The Lord Chief Justice: So did everybody rise, I should
think.
Mr. Gosford mid that he saw what the couneel Intended
to ask, and he repeated his emphatic and aileurn denial of
it.

Some time ago I made an estimate in your columns
of the probable length of the Tichbarne trial, and put
the prosecution down as being likely to finish early In
July. This will be very near the mark, and as the
three judges who are engaged upon it are not to take
any of the summer circuits, we may now look forward
to seeing this groat case go on without interruption to
the end. For a time there appoars to be a lull in the
excitement which was no strongly manifested in the
early days of the proceedings, for the crowds who
assemble daily in Westminster Hall are of much
smaller dimensions than they were two months ago.
With the opening of the defeat-, however, there is
very little question that the public interest iu the
progress of this remarkable trial will be sensibly aug-
mented.

Allred as to an expression as to Fairy Land which Mr.
Remaly !magenta!i referred to Tichborne, Mr. Gosford said
it was a song Roger often used to sing, sometimes at two
in the morning, and
Mr. Hawkins airl Mr. Justice Lush referred to passages in
Roger's letters which referred to the song.
Mr. Kane&ly, referring to an a'lusiou in one of Roger'.
letters to a bet between him and Mr. Gosford, pressed the
wittiees whether he had not mole a bet that his cousin
would prove in the family way.
Mr Goard (interrupting with great indianatlon).—No,
Pie ; he never uttered much a word ! I am shocked that such
a suggestion should be mace !
Fran, answer the question calmly.
Mr. Gosiord Well, I will try to do no, but it is difficult to
restrain mysele I declare, upon my most solemn oath, that
there was nothing of the limo. The bet referred to whether
he would go to Tichtmrue ag .in.
Mr. Remaly It is capaino on another Interpretation.
Mr. Gosforel : Everything Is eversion of being turned into a
bad meaning by the ingenuity of counsel.
The Lord Chief Justice ; It is the client who suggests the
questions Ton must not Warne counsel
Mr. Gosford For that reason I will isnar with all good
humour whatever questions counsel may ask.
Mr. Renealy do not draw on my imagination. I assure
you.
the topic was then dropped, and the trots examluation
was din ee Aid to It. user's acquaintance with mathematics. Mr.
Gcsforl repeated that he studied them diligently, aryl worked
problems from Euclid.
Mr. Kenealy Wound you be !surprised to hear that he
could 1.4 apell Euclid
Mr. (looted : Ter, I should indeed be earnest d.
The Lord Chief Juntice asked to what Oda referred.
Mr. Reuealy sahl R gee spelt Euclid "Fund," but
The Lord Chief Justice, looking at the letter, pronounced
that the word was clearly spelt Euclid." and the wltuess,
the letter being omitted to him said so too, and that tope
Wax dropped imild much laughter.
The cross-examinatton was thou directed to Rosner, sup-
posed habit of drinking, and Mr Go.ford sat t he thought •
great deal too much of It. It-ger would sit for an hour over
• weak ton:viler of brandy Y. water and a c gar. Ile was
then asked to look at the thumb photographs (as they may
be called; of Roger, and he said no doubt the thumb on 0110
hand appear, d ten protrude beyond t!.e nail. On being naked
to look at the defehdat.C. thumb he said it had the same
appearance, atli It was very noticeable
N,w, are you prepared to say that there was not that ap.
pearliness on Roger'. thumb?
Mr. iGsforo.—l am prepared to say so. lam quite sure of
It. The appearance Is so noticeable that It munt have been
observed if it hat existed, 1•1141 I am sure it did not exist on
Roger's thumb—at ail events Wio,ll I knew him. But then Inc
had been away for a year wheu the daguerreotypes from
which these pnotographs were copied were taken.
The Lord Chief Justice: Have you never seen photo-
graphs which are defective In the hands
Mr Go.forti .111, yes. I have known ladies throw away
their photographs from dissatisfaction on that account.
The Lord Chief Justice said he presumed there would be
evidence on that head.
A juror asked if these photographs were taken from the
life.
Mr. Kenealy said no ; they were copied from the
daguerreotypes taken in Chill,
The Juror But the thumb Is not In the daguerreotype.
Mr. Kenealy Because, as we say, it has been erased. But
we say that It Is In the negative.
Mr. Gosford, being pressed upon the subject, repeated
his denial that anything of the kind existed In Roger,
at all ayltlits while he knew him. The cross examina-
tion was thee directed to the accounts he had given of
hi. interviews with the defendaht at Gravesend. Be was
asked whether before his first interview Mr. Cullington
had not told him that the defendant complained of the
cutting down of trees on the estate; and he said he ha I
heard of it !sometime or other, but not then, and he did not
attach any importance, as he knew there was no truth In it.
Of course trees had been cut mown, but no more thin was
proper or reasonable. Pressed as to whether £30,000 worth
of trees had not been cut (lowa, he said it was absurd there
was not £5,000 worth of timber altogether on the estate.
The cross examination was then continued, and was
not concluded when the Court adjourned.

Mr. °Word's °roes-examination was continued by Mr.
Kenealy on Tueeday morniug (the forty fourth day). lie
mid: Mr. Cludies Weld was Lady Doughty'n intimate friend
and relative. lie gave me in one sum £2O. My wife unknown
I, me wrote to Lady Doughty In • moment of pressure, and
she forwarded to her Mr. Weld's cheque for £2,0 In
January, IVO, having advenced email sums to My Weld's
brother, I received a cheque for 18 for the amount.
The Lord Chief Justice : Why do you mix up every per-
son's affain in this way? Why see gentlemen's names to be
brought up in this way about a miserable cheque for ZS?
A Juryman : The time of the Jury ought to be considered.
We think there Is a great waste of time In the mode of cr, as-
examination pursued.
Mr Kenealy I most discharge my duty to my client.
Mr Justice Mellor :ill, quite oodateral to the Issue. The
inesti.• do not bear on the credit of the witness. Mr.
Weld is no party In it. If we have to inquire into every sum
Mr. Gosford has received the case will WI, twelve months.

.72,; duly to my
cl lent.

—iir—Justlee Mellor I don't Irish to object to questions
befog pot to witnesses, but these questions are wholly
Irrelevant.

. .....
Mr. Kenealv Do you prohibit my putting questions?
The Lord Chief Jurtice: No. We put It to your discre-
tion whether It is worth while to take up the time of the
court in reference to such a miserable thing as an £8
cheque.
Mr Rahway: I don't like to do anything against your
lordship'. suggestion.
The Lord Chief Justice: I shell say no more. You mud
take your own course.
Witness: Don't consider me. I will answer every ques-
tion put about Mr. Weld or anybody else. '
the Lord thief Justice But It Is hard to bring in th
names of other people.
Cross-examloatlon continued I have not of late been
living at the expense of the Tichborne family, but upon my
own resources. My wife has succeeded by the death of an
aged relative toe fourth share of £1,400 and I have recelv..d
a further provision from my aged father. I have never re-
ceived a shilling from the Doughty family beyond • little
kindly collection sent to my wife by Lady Doughty, who said
it was from some friends. I know Sir. Townshend, a bank
manager at Iltoreter. I might have said to him that I had
documents which would upset this man's pretensiota. I
allude•l to the 155 letters whtch Ro7er had sent ti me.
I did not sty that the d Turnouts were entrusted to me by
Roger, and that no one but he and myself knew their contents.
I knew a Mrs. Boyd. I never right to her, alluding to this
case. I dare n,,t say what I think. dimuld it be be it
would be my ruin " I mlubt have said to her brother, "If
this ca•e coma, to trial the exposure that will take place
will be my ruin." That is the sense in which I spoke, and
what pa-led yesterday has proved it. Mrs. BoA 5,11t1 that
a nice-looking gentlernan, a solicitor, prevailed upon her to
make a statement, and she promised to let me see It, hut
afterw irdi refused. 141,1 not say to Thomas Lewis or any
one on leaving Gravesend, "By —he is the man ; there
will be a hell of a row." I never had a more hearty I Lush
than when I r,al that in one of Mr. Guildford Onslow's
sP!VP."' . . . • .

With revel to the sealed pack.t Mr. aosford said I drs-
On) ed it before IFS before I wont into Wales. My wife
and I had many conversations about the packet abut the
time it was Riven to me, and again when we heard of It gee's
logs. I fever had the document with me at Tanny Land, my
farm In Wales.

A letter of Mns Goldoni, written in 1808, found among the
willies:a papers eent from Liverpool by Mr. Robertson
Guadst me was produced, and in It occurred the p ssage, "I
send you the lot-resting document, and I am glad to and
there is some hope of its lit log used to-morrow."
The witness swore positively that it did not refer to the
sealed p .cket, bit wan probably • paragraph from some
new•paper sent as • Joke for the amusement of • shooting
party at Plowrien. They were the ir, nice' words of a lady
No one wan present when he destroyed the packet. Ile was
sure Ides. Gostord knew the content.. It was one of Om«
kind of thingea man would talk confidentially to his wife
and nobody else about.
In 18-examination, the witness said that until yesterday he
never heard of Roger having complained that Sir }Award
had spoken of his motner beim; Illegitimate.
To the Lord Chief Justice : In the lotorval between Loiter
going away and Its destructluu 1 never mentioned the sated
pocket to .y soul, except my 'wla7. 'Anti. Its des-
truction I never mentioned It In IV ales. so that its ',dor
existence mig+t get abroad, until I named it to a certain ser-
mon lathe summer of 1887. I never mrntioned the packet
until the meeting at the Grosvenor hotel, and I dui not
linos. until July, 1887, that him Doughty had also a seabui
packet. It we.. matter *via.* the knowledge of Roger and
myself, but before the Grosvenor hotel meeting the defend.*
never made the slightest allusion in any way to the dom.
ment..

To the Jury: Roger, au regarded hie religious &Wok was