The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
Dorchester, Dorset, England, 1868-10-06 00:00:00

remtining onmeighth. Therefore, one-eighth of the
ownership of the tithe' •ttached to the Protestant
Elliseeradian., six.eightlia to the Romeo Catholics, and
one-eighth to the Protestant Dissenters--(eheere). Tb•
gross payments in tithes must amount to £400,000.
though the nett sum was only about 1.364,000, and,
therefore. according to his argument of the E 400,000
&best 000,000 belonged to the Roman Catholics, and
that was what they had to PsY
towards the support of
to
the Proteatant established church -(applause). Did
they think that was fair? Whateeer ie national-he
laid it down as a broad priuciple and should like to find
the man bold enough valise?'
it-should not be
ePPeoPiated by a met or Met) for sectarian or !mete
P"tPeiles-(seplause) If any property he national.
then all the people have an equal interest in it. If 800
inhabitants of Dire ester pad en equal sharein property
which yielded OM a year, what world they think if a
hundred 'monopolised the entire DUO, and then said to
the 700 left without s
penny we have the
po"rr, and you get no wrong"Hlaughter). Of
course they would reply, if the property
belonged to all, ell should equally share in ita benefits,
"
and if they did not so share it he was sure that if they
had • shareholders' meeting it would be a very stormy
one, and if the chairman happened to be one of the
favoured hundred, he did not think the other 700 would
be very loyal to eg,e_(ieughter and applause). Such
was the condition of Ireland in regard to this matter.
He did not wish to use strong language. but it did seem
to him that in We matter the Irish •re considerably
wronged by the party who have very frequently taken
from every section of the people what they conceived to
be their righta, and claimed for thotneelvee exclusive
orieileges in which they were not willing others should
share. In the old ecclesiastical statutes of Ireland he
met with a v. ry euggeetive fact. There was an Act
passed in the reign Of William 111. for the pervose of
proscribing and altogether banishing Roman Cateolic
prelates and priest., mil anyone who could give infer-
maticn that would secure the conviction of • bishop
was to receive tro, •nd of • priest £2O. But that which
he desired to sell ',Aeration to was this-it went on to
Bey, the same to he levied in such manner ane on such
p-rsons ea were not touched by the act against tories,
robbers, and rapparees. He should Ike to meet with
the act •g.tinst the furies. He WM not aware of its
exietenoe till he met with it in this ectelesisatited
act, and it not him thinking. The tories, he
knew, were exceedingly respectable people, men who
had a stake in the (gentry, who had a leputatinn to loft
of such a staid seber character that lie should have
! thought theau the last pa emus against whom an Act of
Parliament would be directed; in fact, they hml been
concerned for • greet many yeers in this country in
making Ants of Parliament against other people-
(lembter)-therefors, to him it was euvreing to toil
reference to an Act against Unica He referred for
the meaning of the word to Heydn'a "Dictionary of
Dates," and there found a tory explained to be "a
savage, a collector of tithes"-(Laughter). Not being
altogether natisfied,and thinking that might not possibly
be right, lie turn.' to the Imperial dictionary, one there
he was informed that tory originielly signified •
robber !-(laughter andapplanac). Being afraid that
the further he went the deepei he should get into the
mire bogeys up his remerabes, and began to philosophise
• little about the knowledge he had gained, and with
this result, that a certain clus of eamele in the reign of
William 111, tried to steal the rights away from their
neighbours, for which they were called tories or robbers
(laughee and applause). He told this the other day ,
at a meeting is the north, and • true British conser-
vative got up at timeless of his lecture and said "She
lecturer was very careful not to give you the derivatem
of the word Whiig ; he is • capital sample of • whig
himself : whig meses sour milk !"-(laughter). Well,
he replied, if you tories persist in steeling the cream is
it a wonder that the milk becomes sour ?-(laughter).
The tories stole all the cream from 'reified, so the milk
turned sour-(applatew). They proposed not to take
away the cream any longer, but to let all the produc; s
of the people's industry remain entire, and then in its
fleet sweet wholesome state share it out amongst the Irish
people,so that all may be matefied,and discontent no more
seen-(applause). " How are you going to do it" said
, their friends on the other mile. Thie question of tithes
eras not the only matter. lie was glad to Nee that Her
blejetty's Commisaioners had appended to their report
a table in which they showed, as far as they could.
whet landed property the church has derived frotteprivete
source, and what for public sources. They (Dissenter.)
proposed to let the church retain the property derived for
private sources, but they raid that the property obtained
front public sonrees should be devoted to the interests
of the public-(applause). " Yes," said they, "but
what did you main to do with the money' you are
efreid to tell r It was for the wisdom of Perliament
to determine. They knew the saying "flint catch your
hare and then cook it," so, be suptewed, Mr. Gladatehe
ani those who thought with bim, considered the wiser
course would be first of all to pa suede Parliameet to
! accept their proposal to disestablish and disendow the
Irish church, and then to deliberate as to what •bouli
! be done with the tithes. Bet he was free from all
' official responsibility, and very thankful he was for the
libeity he eujoyed ; and he could tell them what had
! occurred to him, and what be knew was being thought
' shout in different parts of the country, and what was
, not very unlikley to be the issue of all the controversy
! about tithes. Would not this be fair ? Find out to
what purpose tithes were originally devoted, and
then re-consecrate them to their ancient use? -
(applause). They knew the Conservatives were very
fond of antiquity, did not like things new-
fangled, and were veil fond of going
Sauk to old landmarks, therefore, they could not
object to going back to the very beginning in order to he
ancient in our policy about tithes. The appropiation of
tithes to the support of the clergy is • modern Mew,-
time, it was not their ancient use, they were devoted
in lb. beginning to a far different purpose. Unqu stion-
ably the most learned book in the English language on
this sallow. was Selden's " hietory of tithes," He told
them that there was no record of the payment of althea
4lerleg the find 4,410.Lers of the ele:lvistn church' at-as,
ra. sfiTtantimia; that it ielen."..pe7resibleggh' he: ehlTislid-....
tithes were paid by Christians for rTifiee purees-II
during the Ord 400 yearsol the Christian church. In
Eerlt some holy abbots received tithes of the first
fruit., and to. the beginning of the fifth century. as
treosurers for the poor. Certain 'tense Christians gave
a tenth of their fruits to the poor, and Selden quoted
one of the piroiitive preachers, who exhorted his hearers
to pay a tenth of their fruits to the peer. Thee the
original Christian destination of tithes-and it was a
fact which ought tube borne in mind in this diecuesion-
wee not for the support of the clergy but for the
maintenance of the indigent poor-(applause). Some of
them might be inclined to say, it was a long way off to
g 3 to Egypt and Italy for illustrations ; but it vela just
the same in Enslend. Tithes, as they were all aware,
were very hugely paid to converts and monasteries.
&ogle, who we, an authority on tithes, said that tithes
while in the possession of those institutions were duly
applied to the pious and charitable purposes for which
they were originally instituted : that is, in England
when the monasteries and convents had the tithes they
received them as treasurers for the poor ;and there
was an Act of Perliemeot passel in the reign of the
second Richard which required every incumbent to set
apart a cenvenient sum of money for the support of the
poor out of the profits of the church's land and the
revenues of the said church in aid of their living and
maintenance for them. Sir Simon Degge, a greet ,
authority, was quoted by Eagle as saying he would wish ,
every clergymen to remember that the poor have a
share in the tithes with him. Up to the reign of Qeeen
Elieabeth there was no poor's-rate in England. Why?
Because the tithe was the poor's rate. That was • fact
he thought worth remembering. If then we were to
resort to what was proved to be the ancient um, vie,
devote tithes to the relief of the pear, would not all the
people in Ireland be benefited ?-(appleuse) The
indigent would be relieved, the naked would be the
clothed, the hungry would be fed, for the homeless there
would be found • shelter; ant, if the rich said,
" What would be our share r• his answer was,
their poor's-rate would be just so much lee,-
(applause). In short, if these tlthes were to
, revert to their original destination all the State-rich
and poor-Churchmen, Diameters, and linnlnn Catholics
-would participate in their benefits. So that if those
on the other side persisted in the advocates of din-
establishment suggesting some plan for the application
of the revenues of the State now reoeived by the church,
he would ask those who were at the muting last week
to tell him what objection they could have as Christian
men to the application of the tithes to the relief and
maintenance of the indignant poor?'-(cheers). But
they said you mut not do it. Archdeacon Wordsworth,
in a lecture on the matter, threatened them with all
sorts of things. He (the Archdeacon) said the tithes
and endowments belong to the Almighty, and asks,
"Are we prepared tomb God?" Ho threatened them
with ell manner of curses if they touched the tithes, or
took them away from the church in Ireland. But an
eresex clergyman went farther. In • sermon he preschool
he declared that God sent the drought because the
House of Commons agreed to Mr. Gladstone's resolution
on the Irish church-(laeghter). On this matter he
saw • question in one of the papers how it was no notioe
was taken of the action of the House of Lords on the
subject, when they threw out the proposal by a greater
majority than affirmed it in the House of Commons ?-
fanolausel. But it W•F agite time all this sort of talk
was done away witb--(applause). The old "Pope and
candle" scare ought to he banished from the discussion
of inch a question. When men heel got to this that
they most hurl heaven's thunderbolts-_or, rather, try
to do it, for they most be thankful they were powerless
In that regard, and that the curses which shall have any
effect they can never utter - it was high time it should
be 'topped. Let them have more of the.. threatening.,
when they asked for what was just and right, and no
appeals to moseless bigotry, which ought to have been
dead and buries: long ago-(cheers). But teeing Arab.
deacon Wordsworth on his own statement, that tithes
belonged to Almighty God, he WU not sure that the
church of England is the only church that the Lord
favours and smiles 'pen --(applause)* He should like
to put Archbishop Cillen, Archbishop Trench, and Dr.
Cooke, of Belfast, inta a room together, saying to them,
"You are three learned men, men of oultore and expert
at argument, when yen come to • unanimous conclusion
which is the church tint God rattly regards as the tree
church, then that °lurch shall have the property
Archdeacon Wordswenh mays belongs to Almighty God"
-(laughter and eppleue). Until then let tie devote
(het property to • us. about which there can be no
difference of opinion.(chaers). He did not read
• word in the Bible about (ho Protestant
Episcopalian church, nor of the Roman Catholic
church, nor of the Presbyterian church; but he
did read oar Lord's 'proem( words of those minister-
ing to the indigent poe, "Inasmuch as ye did it unto
one of the least of thee, ye did it unto me"-(cheen).
He might be wrong i appropriating what was God's
to any church, he coed not be wrong in devoting it
to the relief of the poof-(applatue). He was the more
anxious this policy shield be adopted with regard to
tithes becalm, thong!) la was afraid it was not this only,
yet it was • very largetlement in the cure for the dis-
content and disloyalty rhich exists in Ireland. No one
lamented more than b did that Fenianism and dim
utilise:44mi prevailed (Iceland. England during the
last thirty years haddone great things for Ireland,
remedying very many ord., redressing not a few
grievances, and, coarideing all the circatinstences of the
cam bad done well lithe sister isle, There has been
great progren made lieseland during the last 40 or 50
years, but, at the sass time, we could not expect the
Irish people to be thotoshly satisfied until we restored
unto them the whole 01 their rights. We English
people when we got a litle waisted more: as the Con.
eervatives said they mild not extend the franchise a
ode way but. dears iro manifoot‘d for a much Luger

extension-(heay, hear, sU laughter). well, It vu in
lb.
an nahtre w of
would
satisled-(applanse). So d the Irish : • little had been
*encoded, and they oame asking for more and more
I every year. He did not justify their discontent and
ilbdinirsk that
;o r if
nor.kh they
begantill his to
wasfd an hungry
thoroughly
m
disloyalty, but he did not yonder at it. The Rev. Pre-
b rndary Daemon made • statement at the recent mut.
log which he unfeesed was the only one that fairly
I ."i:4lll.etieleilh'il—ed that we
hint.
The rev.
andiren, lifrenDat" ourvighor.,as of the
" reported to
condition ~f Ireland said Protestant feeling, are trot ass/re of
what could take place there. gar from the direstablldunent
kading to civil war, he felt stud. inure c-mvieced that, if
there be • ,Ivil war, it will into front the diesdabllshenent and
h
disendowment. More than !"/ years ay. vines h• sn• •
young men at (talon!, • gentleman perfectly conversant with
' the abide if Ireland, a military man, who had lived the beet
ratio( hi, life there said • Yon In England have tioconception,
you have no knowledge, of tin Intense and burning seal there
.Is among the Protestants in the north of Ireland i.tr their
religion, and the exertions. tley would make it they believed
it would beserlintsly waked: Them words had dwelt upon
his memory ever since, and %it thought they stood In some
daoger of being fearfully Meares/eat in the present day."
If that speech meant anytb ng at all, it mean tots —that
If Mr. Gladstone's proposal to disestablish and disendow
the Irish church be carried out, we are in danger of
Cdeil war from the Irish Protestant Bpi/upsilons-
(cheers and laughter). It wss not the first time he had
wet with a threat of that sat. In a letter to the Rock
--(a laugh)-the wnter said if the measure be carried
" it will undoubtedly isste in a civil wic, the eeette-
rmeoces of •hich are too dreadful to oonternplate"-
tlaughter). The other day when he was in Yorkshire,
• gentleman told bits he hai heard in the highest church
circles of London that if the measure for the diast.b.
ligament were carried there wonld be a civil war in
Ireland, and English elnurolasien would send help to the
ridsels-(ironiag ebeeriug). What did it all mean'
That so long 114 Protestant Eadsroplians retained the
bribe they would be lop:, but d the money was
takeu away they would turn rebels? Some of them
bed learnt loyalty in auoth.r schouL Tun NolleoD-
funtlitt forefathers Were pereecuted, they were not
allowed to sit in the municipal councils, were not per-
mitted to enter Parliament, were frowned upou and
excluded from almost cvi ry privilege, but, though they
bad never enjoyed the smile of the state, they ..sal eno
been loyal, aud the House of Hanover had no more
loyal subjects than the Nonoonformists in thi+ realm
-(great cheering). When obarehmeo intimated that if
the Irish church was disestablishej and di/endowed
tiler would be disloyal-that their luyalty to Her
Majesty would only last so long u they sat at Her
Maj.aty's teble and fed uoou her proviaior.s, be said
" out uPO. •o.lt loyalty r-lloud and prolonged ap,
plause). It was • Msgr.* for ohurehmen and clergymen
to talk as tbue :Len had done about "civil war" if LB
set of national justice ke done -(applausa). If they
eould not take away exclusiee privileges from 700,000
of the Irish people without bringing on civil war, what
right had they to complain that 4.800,000 wore dis-
affected, because they have been prosenbed and perse-
cute] ? - (cheers). If it be a question of loyalty, let
them do justice to secure the loyalty of 4,508000 ; and
if the Irish churchmen rise they will find that there to
enouth in England to protect Her Majesty from
any of their threats, and to uphold her honour-(great
cheering). Something was said at the meeting about a
religion for the state, but what did the prophet nay:
"What doth the Lord require of you, but to do patty
and to love mercy, and walk humbly with your God."-
(applause). That wu the best state religiou-(applause.)
In this struggle for justice and liberty they had leaders
for whom they should be very grateful. In Mr. Glad-
stone they had a leader of the highest integrity: his
piety was more than his power, and his mushier ex-
ceeded his grads; be was a man who feared God, and
though he differed from thew (the Dissenters) in many
points, they knew he would always be true to his
oonscienee-(auplauee). "Oh," said their oppooenta.
"but see bow he has changed from what he was 20
years ago." Of course be bad ; if he remained what he
was 20 years ago, it would only prove that lie was a
man of stunted growth, amen who did not know bow to
change with growing convictions and increasing infer.
1 mation-(applimas). Mr. Gladstone might say, "When
, I was • child I spoke as • child. I thought as • child, I
utiterstond as • child ; but, when I became a man, I
put away childish things"-(applante). Let them be
I grateful that Mr. Gladstone gave his childish dart to
I the "obstructive.," and his mature manhood to the
I party of proves-sr:hoer.). With such a loader as Mr.
Gla Irtone, having worthy allies around him. who of
them would not take his place in the rank and file? Let
them liemselves to this great enterprise of obtain-
' lag equal just:ce and religious liberty for Intend. It
might be-though he did not think it likely-they would
be defeated in this year 1868 ; but if so, they were not
likely thereby to he much daunted: they would work
0 i for anothsr seven years if needs be, and, when they
had /one, yet anothu seven years if it were required-
they would toil and fight till the hair of the youngest
of them had grown grey, yea, while there was any
life left in them, and when they had gone their sons
would take up the sword they had laid down,
carry on the conflict, and win the victory-(great
applause)-for that victory must come-(prolonged
chetring). It was utterly impossible they should be
ultimately defeated. Ecclesiastical Liberal+ had never
fought • losing battle in Erigland yet, and, so long as
they sought no more for themselves than they were
willing to grant to others they never would or could be
feated-(much applause). He would conclude what
be hal to say in the words of Thoinu Carlyle : Fight
on thou brave true heart, and falter riot through dark
fortunes and through bright; the cause thou fightest for
611 far an it it true, but no further, yet precisely so far, it
very sure of victory ; the falsehood alone if it will be
abolished, as it ought to lobe, but the truth of it is part
of Nature's own laws,oo.operatee witlathe world's eternal
tendencies, end cannot be conquered --(great cheering).
The Rev. ROGERS, Congregational Minister of
Bridport, who had came from Birmingham that day to
attend the meeting, and whou remarks on the queetion
everybody eeld havegledly beard, said he had prepared
th
se ...m.0... Wt. it. h,td boon tor esu
by the admirable "..'llll4llnOr.ji P"ed-
i t would b• te.,to of lies, I. detain them icsege-r.
Under thou circumstances he would content himself
with moving • cordial vote of thanks to Mr. William.-'
(applause).
The motion was seconded and carried ; and the lecturer
acknowledged the compliment
A vote of thank+ was proposed to the Chairman on the
oration of the Rev. F. Beckley, seconded by the Rev.
W. Lewis.

Mr. Isgwaggeg, in response, amid he hoped to see the
day when the wrongs of Ireland shall be publicly
aeknowledged,.end • rculedy souicbt for them.

The Nat;nil Anthem wa; lb.. heartily sung, and the
meeting ended.

INTERESTING EIPERIVENT.—PIace on the upper her
of a grate, with the head, projecting about one inch
inwants, some ordinary Luci(ere—in • few moments
they ignite. Then in the same position place • few of
the Patent gaiety Matches of Bryant and May, 1., indult
(which ignite only on the box), and it will be foul
that they may remain fur hour, in fact, until the stood
becomes literally charred- without taking are. We
look on this a• • singularly interesting confirmation of
the safety of the new match. Care mutt be taken in
both cases to avoid actual contact with flame.
NAnyaz AND ANT.—The Chinese We proverbial for
dexterity and cunning, consequently it is not surprising
that much of the tea they send to England, is "surface
coloured," to make the withered leaves appear equal to
the beat ; &custom affording extra profit to the
but misleading the putchaser aa to its quality and true
value. Honsiman and Co., London, preferring sterling
quality before deceptive value, have secured a lasting
preference by inilmrtinc tea without powdered mineral
on its surface; this pare tea is uniformly strong and
truly cheap, sold in packets by 2,538 agents in London
and the provineee ; those in this neighbourhood are
advertised In our eolumrs.

HoLtowaTe 01 NTM ENT •ND Pi Lt.& —Ch•DEe•ble
Weather.—Throughout the year the keen easterly
triads eorely teat the weak chested, the rheumatic,
and the neeralcie. To subdue the ant indications of
the maladies Holloway's well-known remedies should
be appbeC at caw ; eaeh day's neglect mekes the
treatment more difficult and the lune more dangerous.
The ?ilk throw off all impurities, clean.> the lungs,
regulate He ciroulat,on, and overcome inflammatory
tendencies and the Ointment, well rubbed in near
the effected part, cheeks all erroneous action, draws
al surplo. blood, which is creating mieehief, to the
surface, and there gets rid of it by increasing the
capillary eivoillmion of the akin and augmenting it.
*abatements.

Wasfirito Ilitirmit—Whoever could find out • way
of preserving the white colours of the muslin, of the
present day would make • rapid fortune. The follow.
mg plan has iwenrisoommendel, but we cannot answer
for its maws :—Roil a quarter pound of soap till
nearly dissolved, then odd • small piece of &limn and
boil in it. Wash the muslin in this lather but do not
rub soap on it. If a acond water be required pot
&lawn into it, • also with the rinsing water. Dry
quickly. and iron on the wrong side with rather • eool
iron. Or make s lather of white soap and lookwarm
water, and Air into the tub • large tablespoonful of
otgalL Wash tie dress quickly, and rinse in two
waters (cold) aching • teaspoonful of vinegar each
time. Do not allow tha muslin to remain damp, but
iron quickly. It •nnot be expected that muslin or any
other article can le got up at home to look as well or
last stiff as long as when new. Tbe process used by
the manufacture, is quite • difforent one, and the
material is framed, not ironed. Gum arabic stereh is
mach reeommensid, mule as follows—Pound to
powder two ounce of fine white gum *rabic, put it in a
pitcher, pour on t more than a pint of {boiling water,
and having coverel it, lel it stand all night. Strain
It carefully into r clean bottle, cork and keep for use.
A desert spoonful of this gum wister stirred into • pint
of Glenfield stash made in the usual way, will give
thin white muslin and not a look of newness to which
nothing alas can otters them after wasbing.—Mostireal
Galvtte.

BREAKFAST : A.Buccuarot, Esesaitrusr.—Tbe Civil
Service Gazette ha the following There 'meet? few
simple articles of 'ood which can boast so many valuable
And important ditary properties as woos. While acting
•.—"
on the nerves as &gentle suintilant, it provide. the body
with some of tbi purest elemente of nutrition, and at
the mine time ooreets and invigorates the action of the
digestive organs. These beneficial effects depend in •
great messure tpon the manner of its preparation,
but of late yeersruch close attention haa been given to
the growth and treatment of cocoa that there is no
difficulty in Deming it with every useful quality fully
developed. The simpler success which Mr. Epps
attained by ho Logiceopathic preparation doom* has
never been sun:mated by any eeperimentalist. Far and
wide the reputation of Epps's cocoa hen spread by the
simple force of its awn extraordinary merita. Medical
men of all shades of opinion have agreed in recommending
It as the safest and most beneficial article of diet for
persons of weak mastitutions. This superiority of a
particular mode ol preparation over all others in •
remarkable proof ol the great results to be obtained
from little causes. By a thorough knowledge of the
natural laws which govern the operations of digestion
and nutrition, and by a careful application of the au
propertie, of wellselected cocoa, Mr. Epps hen provided
our breakfast tables with a delicately flavoured
beverage which may save on many heavy doctors' Sills.
It is by the judicious use of such articles of diet that
a oonstitutiOn may be gradually built up until strong
enough to resist every tendency to disease. Hundreds
of subtle maladies are flouting around us ready to
attack wherever there Is a weak point. We may
limps many a fatal shaft bgtooktiesping ovesseleve
well fortified with a pare bad • properly
aisuiabal kiam