The Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1860-05-03 00:00:00

Daniel Crosthwaite, Richard Shell, C. J. Corbelly,
William Barton, James Tyrer,.Edward EstilL-Marks
t owring, Henry Christie lelises. to Jeffreys,
John Hays Wilson, Thomas Bolky job, Robertson
Gladstone, James Jebel-tete lames R. Jeffery, Joseph
Kitchen, R. M. Beawith, Francis A. Clint, Joseph
Steel, James Robertson, J. W. Cropper, Aldermen
William Bennett; Williain Preston, Jarnes Parker,
Raymond W. Houghton, John Stewart, For, 22 ;
against, 25.
Mr, jeffery moved and. Avison seconded that the
matter be not Zefetted to the Finance Conemittee. ; but
that it stand over for a month for the consideration of
the Glonneil.
Alderman HOLME said two gentlemen, one Qf whom
was.Mr.-Tyrer, had voted by mistake tentr&y-to their
intention,. Or his amendment melt heve been carried.
Mr. JEFFERY WithdreW his amendment, 'and the
matter was referred to the Finance Committee..
-:-Aiderinan STEW ART moved the confirmation of the
general prceeeedings.
Mr. jsreen-i drew attention to a resolution passed
by the committee to -the effect that they could not,
having- regard to the corporate finance's, recommend
the Council to. expend any money in connection with
the opening of the new Free Library. Now the Council
had instructed- a committee -to do a certain Work, but
surely the_Council could never expect that eommittee to
put their own "hail& into their own breeches pockets
and pay the Money. He could Understand snob& reso-
Wien being passed if the expenditure for a: day's
rejoicing .was east: as .mach as when -the geteen
7441ted7Liirerpool--47,57.7.4 he should not -ask for-more
than the madest gum of £1;000, which teas 21 per cent.
on the amount of the gift of the noble donor of the
Free Public Library in Shaw e-browe; He therefore
moved that. £l,OOO be placed at the disposal of the
committee to which he had referred., - •
PlCTON'seccruded the amendment moved by Mr.
Jeffery. , - • , •" • r
.__".Aiderman -Seweenx said the Finance Committee had
no funds at -their disposal. to apply to a purpose never
contemplated by the elegieleiture e in. feet the-corporate
surplus for the year was' anticipated by engagements
already made.
Alderman Do-e-en saiertFe Library and Museum am-
•
mittee had funds of -their even at their disposal, and the
general impression:.on the -pert.of the Finzhee Com-
mittee was that- that committee did not hisband their
resources. The burgesses pfeLiVerprool by-gifts Oland
and money had, contribttted- £lOO,OOO to the library
since its first formation, .and he contended that it was
therefore highly improper ask a vote of this deserip-
tiol. -
The MAYOi. said the &einniittee reported that they
had funds in hand ; and if the resolutime.wees passed
it' Was plain. that the money mild only paieLent of
any surplus money inthe.cerporate el-chattier; 'e. .
Mr. Mozesy said theie was no
,committee 'et the
Council-who .was More careful in the-expenditure of its
means. than. wee the -Library and Mteteeera Committee,
ind he protested Sgainit the 7assettion. of Aldetnian
Daver,"that th'hy 'did not husband the funds at their
disposal... He supported the amendment on the ground
that it was only 'due the' illustrious donor of the new
library, that the'
_oPeninge of the building should be on
such a scale as to express the sense
_entertained tee, the
people of the gift made to them. • _
Mr. Sum said the grant would be violation -of the
92a3 section of the MuniciPal Reform Act, and he was
opposed: to squandering Se1,1?21) in the way prOposed,
,when. they -could: so well- apply that sum to measures
which would be for the benefit Of the people at large.
Mr... Plucks -was utterly ashamed that the public
should: be told that the Connell were so poor-spirited
that they would -not vote sufficient Money to pay the
necessary expense of the dedication .of SO generous a
•gife to. the public. (Hear; hear.) -
' Mr.:STEATSS delliedthat any di respeet was. intended
by the Finance Conernittee or the Council to Mr. Brown,
_and *pointed..oat-:that when the gift was offered-to the.
town, it was receivedewith acclamation, and 1,000
guineas voted for a statue, and £3OO for a portrait of
Xr..Brown.. (Hear, bear.) The Town-clerk had
advised the committee that the grant could not be
legally made—and even if it could, there was no Money
in the corporate exchequer which could be 'aPplied to
the purpose intended.
Breon was thoroughly ashamed thit such a pro-
poial as that made by Mr. Jeffery should have come
-before the Council, He deprecated the putting of the
hand into the public' purse on this occasion. _ ,
Mr. CLINT regretted the ad ntis3ricordiam mode that
had -been adopted' by several mernbers in arguing the
question, and thenght that' upon principle there was.no
objection to 'voting the sum required for duly eelebra-
ting the opening of the new Free Library. -
After some remarks frOm, Mr. Beckwith, Mr. leisone
Mr. Job, Mr. Cropper, and Mr. Kitchen; -Mr. John
Stewart declined to reply, and the Co4ncil went to the
vote on the amendment, which was lest by 21 votes for,
to S 2 against. The votes were as' 'follow
For—Councillors -C. J. Cerhally, Roger Hay dock,
John Shinemine Oliver Holden, Edward.Estill, Thomas
Avison, Charles Boating, Thomas Ridley, Charles
MOzloy, Thomas :Bulky Job, James A. Picton, James
R. -Jeffery,elosepli Kitchott, T. Llewellyn Hodson,
Francis A. Clint, Joseph Steel, John Fernworth, Thomas
Vernon; Aldermen W. Bennett, George H. Horsfall, the
Mayor. Against—Ccuncillore Sheil, W. Barton,
James Tyrer, James Steains, Henry .Christie Beloe,
P. Jeffreys, Thomas Wagstaff, John 'Hays Wilson,
Robert Hutchison, Robertson Gladstone, hints John-
son, George Nickson, R. M. Beckwith,.
_Tames Robert-
son, J. W. Cropper, J. Gibbons Livingston ; Aldermen
John Buck Lloyd,Thoma's bover, James Parker, Joseph
Cooper, Raymond W. Houghton, John Stewart.
The several' proceedings of the Finance ComMittee
were then confirmed. • - ,

WATER. COMMITTEE. .
Mr. HonsoNsaid- it would be necessary to appoint an
arbitrator to hear a•elaim for damages made by Mr.
Chippendale in reference to the, water -eapPhed to his
mill, from 3tivington.:. ......
Mr. Thonias Statter, of Bury, was appOinted.
WA.TCR. COMMITTEE.
The proceeding, resolutions, and reports of the Watch,
Lighting, FireTolice, Fire Prevention, Hackney Car-
. riage; Licensing, and Gas Committees, were rea,d,.r.am-
prising a recommendation (conjointly with the. Health
Committee) to appoint Mi. Thomas Clegg collector of
rates, in plane of Mr. Rogers, promoted, at a salary and
poundage calculated to prOduce £l5O per annum,
,being
the- tame :as 'heretofore paid. The laying of a watch
ate foz the: year 1850,6 t. The laying of a tire-police
rate for the same year.. . •• -
On the motion of Mt. Clint, seconded by Mr. Johnson,
thejtoteedings-Were confirmed.
- Mr. Emu, asked was it a fact that there were no
fire escapee available in the town.
Mr. joitNsow said - there was an effective !fire escape
at the Fire-Police Station. -
Mr.- CLINT said • there were no such escapes ail those
Used in tondon; He stated that• at the last meeting
• of the Council the proposal of the conimittee to increase
certain salaries *Ai deferred until. Mr. Seffery's motion
for a -committee to report on applications for salaries
should be ,discussed. Now the practice had been that
no Member "of the, police force did ever apply for
increased Salary, :but that, the stepshould. emanate from
the committee , itself, which ivas a body, .to ,a great
extent. independent of the Council by virtue of the Act
of Pailiainent. Thecommittee were to pay the officers
subject .to the approval of the Council, -and he con-,
. tended 'that .therefore 1.1 r,, .Jeffery.''s notice of /nation
could not in any way, apply the Meiribers of the police
force. • , . „ ,