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make lire -slight difficulty, and will. at :last say, Treaty, as oue of, Commerce--as one professing
he can only agree if the Savoyards and Nisards to promote a greater commercial, intercourse
be.consulted, ;When it. comes to•this;-the;hitherto bet we on the two countries—no doubt falls very
faithful population will, feel.they are, deserted by far short of what it ought, to secure to us, in
their own;natural:rulers, and they will. by terror, ;
or by intrigue,kbe made to vote prenisely as Louis • return for what it 'wtill give. to 'France. Still; thiS
Napoleon is deterthined they shall vote: liniver.sal ' hapS ' a "sufficient. reasonwhy
Were not; --Per ,
suffrage applied as its Bonapartist Workers know should. be rejected. .As Mr , LIND:sAY, ! well
hew to'apply it, can be brought to give a.n7,- result observed,,.' halting and imperfect,. and one-Sided'
you choose:" It is thus, her that the Imperial thoue-li this Treaty: was, yet-nnich greater rise:
schemer will 'accomplish his Predatory designs.
Treaties can never reFtrain him ; and as to the would' be incurred by i'esis.tir, it than by giving
distrust of the Other Powers, he heeds it not. ' effect; and he, fox one was not prepared 'U> take
liw'll'lbe see'n that theFu n c.I. have been depressed i upon.himself. the •responsibility of, impeding it in
by' what is called " the crisis in Continental poll- , ' any way ; but; at the. same' time,' he hoped that
tics." Consols kept falling ; and the down- ; Parliament would never again have to consider a
w4rd, tendency extended,. it appears; •to. the Treaty under the circumstances under which the
stock market generally. , The -- " crisisP is, ;of
course, the.'W ork of- Louis .Napoleori. • His' House of Corn monaconsidered the present Treaty."
rent'determination to annex' . &miry and Nice
apps- ' Such being-the case,. however, Ministers are in a
' Onsible ; and for this very
despite the reiterated protests of England ! great. measure reSp
, and
'' . .
PoWers bf.titi`Ope, cannot but excite discontent have paused
.before asking Parliament for its
and Hearin. -'sli9SlPrelended, in interested quay- ' thanks for the same: For.surely it were not only
tens, that the debates in the House of Commons, most reasonable but highly necessary there should
01.1 the Emperors aggranclising pelicY are, doing be Some assurance that the French Emperor
mischief, both in the Monetary and the commercial
was
not going, to place himself in .a hostile posi-,
world. But it is her 114jesty;a..;Minister .; ;Jet it
ti on be remembered, who have ,not only provoked
on to Europe, and thus render it- very impolitic
•- t , . •
those debates, but furnished;the very materials in ' that England; as one Of the great PoWers of
them which,cause all :the anxiety :and uneasiness . „Europe; 'should stand forth as haVing just drawn
they; produce., _ Yesterday,.: however; there Was a j more closely the ties of fr;endship with one so
slight improvement in. the 'Funds: - . ; : ' 1
bellicose and so unscrupulous..: - •
It *appears 'lry•a calculation that has been urine
The particular amendment Upon the address
of-the numbers that will-be added to the town -
'
constituencies, undei the six-pound rental f'ran-
which has eventually prolonged its discussion,
chide!' of the new 1-teforin Bill, that . there 'are was brought forward, it would be observed, by,
thirty-lour boroughs in England 'and Wales, in one who had • already voted for the financial pro-
which the number of electors will be 'more than positions of the -Budget, as based Upon the Treaty
doubled.: Liverpool is one of them. Upv;-:irdS.ll .with France and he reiterated his wiah to see.
of 18,060 will be added, it is stated, to the con- • our trade with France developed: as much as pos-
stitnency of this borough ; and when it is eonsi- .
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dered that. Bible. But. he now deniurred •to the. Treaty.' these will censist,of :those who inhabit .
expressly as opposed to. the :dangerous policy 'of
houseaat rents of six, eight,- and nine pounds;
some
.idea may be formed of their quality, socially the French Emperor with respect to Savoy.,
and politically.. ' ;One thing is pretty 'certain,— The noble lord who brought forward that amend-
that they will be in quite sufficient force to swamp ' inent,,gav,e all due credit to Lord JoRN,RifssELL
all-the classes of society that are aboVe them. for the strong manner in 'which he- had remon-'
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The Times. is: evidently getting alarmed at the
, . • strafed . against the step which his imperial,
democratic prospects of the 4'.,6 rental franchise.
in the . Iteform'''Bill; and now thinks " that the - ''' •
MaieStv was about to takeia• step which he
Government in fixing the franchise at 4-'6 has believed was now about: to, be accomplished, the
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merely answered the ' voice of the.
_provincial' Emperor • thus showing that: he utterly despised
Liberals, who "hare determined" that this exact °lir protests and our advice,—and_therefore, he,
rental qualifies a_mati to legislate folehis country." observed," although this country might remain on
Then, examining some of the population statistics visiting terms with his •Majesty, there was no
of certain of the-larger bormighs,' our contem-. "
reason why it should throw itself into. his arms.
Parary- deelareS-I`4 It -is evident 'that in some of 1 '
was taken, it Would - .. ,be seen, by
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them the,XlO, householders may- find themselves Similar ground
votpci an oligarchy by their. more democratic.. Sir HuGH CAIRNS,; 40111914 h he went further in
fellow-townsmen, and see power pass exclusively ' his approval of the Treaty than did Lord TEMPEST,
int9.the hancla,ef theaentera, of, whole miles of since he expreSsed hoW much he should regret to
dingy hotels," As one means of counteracting.this ; see it rejected,—guarding himself, at the same time,
the.
mischief, -the Liberal; journal' suggests
against having it inferred, that he thought the
ala..e: necessity •of• a: ratepaying, qualificatiOn,-,-- ,
Treaty was in all respects a wise one in detail.
cluing' 44 that• even with the'•ratepayiricr clause . however,
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He would not, vote against it, being
tbe'ne*--franehise'bOth in. counties'and b'oroughs' -
will be Suffieiently democratic, and that the Act everything that was anxious to augur favourable
of lB6o'is inthii respect bY no means the nugatory from it—to hope. that everything that could be
scheine that some would represe. nt' it."' It is more, expected from it would be realised. ~But,"
thal?,uspected that Ministers have been sl.4let4la- added the honourable andlearned member, with
ting upon .th 'cpnservativs coming forward, to -
considerable emphasis,- " if advantages should not
P4o4ify: their Bill in this respect.; but .the)l.'ime.9
''' apparently afraid, ' that thenot
and if it' should turn out that the
goi4g to trouble themselves much about it.. • -benefits expected from
it were unsubstantial and
Even Lord Palmerston, withallhis shreivdness, illusory, and that the price we were paying for
cannot. always -maintain a-plausibla -appearanCe "What was termed 4 drawing closer the friendship
before ?arliament and the country.' One' would between this country and France' would . not
halt -thCrught. that any one at' the head of 'the
Go secure that objecfi-irit 'should turn out that the
- • of a Christian natio
Yernmenti of have
I;financial ••
'•t of the Cha 'cellor of the Exclie..., piojec ,s ~ n ,
been careful' not to safianything in disparage- -
If; as q‘ter, stripped of the Treaty, which , had been
merit- of religion as the °' principal thing." '
Burke
_once declared, " i•Plioion iis tire basis of their cover and their strength, should , leave
civil society, and the source of all good and of all . behind them a regret for the revenue we .had
Comfort," surely it must be the h',gliest, as it is f lost, and a feeling, of irksomeness for the imposts
the holiest, influence by which,a Christian states-
~that we had to bear; if these things should 'come
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man,. especially, can ,be moved., Yet,.,in, answer:
to pass, it would then be remembered, and re 7
to aquestionin the House .of _ Commons on •
'prejudice Thursday night, our free . and.: easy ,Premier did membered to the of its authors, that
,
?lot hesitate to say, . " that 'the policy of the the measure was .presented .to . the consiclera-
Goverithient was not. influenced by the religion i'tion of the House: -under circumstances 'which
of the"inettihers of-the 'Cabinet, but 'by higher '
restrained all. free discussion." • This, cer-
Inoties." N'OW' one would' like to know what
those'," higher Motives" 'are. ' 'We are. taught—it
is part and parcel, indeed; of the law of the laud
,---that there can bp no '" higher motives " by
which' either statesuien pr, apyflother .man .can
possibly be influenced,, than those pf their-religion.
"It is religion!" a.ys Shalthpere,
." that doth make
vows kept."'" 'And if' tither the vows or the
principles: of arfirstMinister of the.•Orown are to
be confided in, hP must. not be one who can. stand
up in the High Court of Parliament, and 'declare
that ".the policy of • lis Government 'is net
influenced by the religion of the members-of the
Cabinet, but by higher motives!' : ' ' - .
We give 'else'Where 'a -correspondence . between
Mr. Garnett, the member fer Lancaster, 'and the
Chancellor of. the Exchequer,,on the subject of
the Income-tax. Mr. Garnett,
intention
will be remem-
bered, has given notice of his to linoVe
in Committee of 'Ways and ;11FanS, .that ;:the.
abatement' of Income-tax allowed on incomes
under £l5O a-year be extended to incomes under
£500: The honourable member asks the Chan-
cellor' of the Exchequer if, certain returns could
be laid before Parliament, giving-more informa-
tion ow the subject 'of the' operation of such' an
arraiiotlient as this than is new possessed,--
abotiClii4, from Mr. Gladstone's reply: there.
"would appear to be some difficulty. Mr.-Gladstone
states that the abatement of Income-taX proposed
by Mr, Garriett, -would probably reduce the
amount little. short of £150,000 a-year for .each
Penny- of the tax.; - 'while it would require an
additional establishment to the extent of, .t 2,000.
er £3,000 a-year. , • - . • '
The. Dover Election Committee was to have
been' a terrible affair for the Conservatives, accord
tag to the predictions of the Liberals. Not only
'.'irPre the sitting members to be unseated, but. it,
Niti to be shewn; as clear as the sun' at'noon,'that
P 4,! bergy Ministry had exercised the most car-
Pqpt intwelre.. The ,resilt of the inquiry; how
°ver, has 'utterly falsified all this. The' sitting.
metnbers nig confirmed in their'. seats -;anif4.-§,to
the rest, the- Committee declare, that " ti-4,411p.,,,
Rations containediu:the said_petition....concerning
the interference of Ministers or other servants of
t.tae crown in such election were not proved."

tainly, was. a iniaSt liberal and charitable

view'to take of thesubject. We would all hope
that such a. Treaty may realise•the beneficial ob-
jects which it professes to have in view. But
evenif it should, it will scarcely release Minis-
ters from the responsibility they have
,incurred,
in contracting such a Treaty, at such a,time, and
presenting' it to the consicieration of Parliament
under circumstances which, if they have not
altogether prevented its dlscussion, have at least
.urgeknot to say: compelled, its adoption, in. a
manner which' can never conduce either to the
honour or the interests of the country.

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SARDINIA.

M. CAVOUR ON THE SAVOY QUESTION.
' ' TURIN, March 8.

The Opinione publishes Count. Cavour's note of
the 2nd instant„ relative to the question of Savoy
and Slice. In this note Count Cavour recals:the
declarations 'contained 'in' the despatcheS of NI,.
Thouven el, And declares himself far from believing
that the aggrandisement of Sardinie could ever
constitute a danger to France,' to w4oni the late
events 'attach by bonds of gratitude and friend:
ship. Nevertheless,. Count Cavour says we
are too .sensible.of what Italy owes to the • Em-
peror not to give our serious attentimi to'a`demand
which rests upon the reapeet'dne to the popn*T.
. -
,tvion.,. ~The. Government of. the King would never
consent,.even with a prospect of great advantages,
to cede or exchange, .any -part. of the territory
fOr many centuries has formed a glorious
Appendage to the House of Savoy. But the
government of the' King 'cannot refuse to take
into consideration the change which the events
in Italy have produced in, the situation of the
population of Savoy and Nice. At the moment
when we demand for the inhabitants of Central
Italy the right to dispose.,or their destiny, we
expose ourselves to a charge of inconsistenoy rind
'injustice if we:refuse to the subjects of the king
dwelling on the 'other side of the' Alps the right
.tafreelY manifest their wishes, however deep the
regrets we should feel if the, provinces, the cradle of '
the Tiedinontese monarchy, decided upon demand-
ing a separation: we should riot refuSe to recognise
the weight. of a manifestation, however slight,' if
made in conformity with ;the prescription or
Count •Cavonr' SayS further that the.
Fleclarations of Thouvenal, 'relative to the
great Powers and Switzerland, foresee a falSe:
interretatien of the tnetlyes which guide ih'es.
conduct .otthe 6overtnent, t3la imov4l. clt Which
'could only be effected with great difficulty).,
These delarations being 'inspired by high.senti-
ments of equity and justice, leave no cause to
doubt that in 'any: hypothesis anxiety to leave
proper frontiers to France and Sardinia would
direct any negotiations on the question. ' •
CHAMBERY, March 9. .

IT oaay : be regretted that ''the Treaty with
Plsatice should have continued to occupy the
attention. of Parliament so anxiously and so long,'
t° the obstruction of c'ttlier, though scarcely more
ir°Portant, business. But Ministers themselves
are alone to blame for this. There is involved in
its consideration those two most momentous
subjects, to a Country like Engla44,7-2PeaPP and
eummerce. If the commercial treaty •Witbll7.4llee
had been not only unexceptionable in alirOpect,37
but opportune as to the circumstances' under
l'Flaicia ix
ht
contracted, both these great dea.--
108er
tffilto
'"e been there promoted. But the danger
such It Treat "9 PirgiloPitaalocs whirl}y, at such a moment, witlla character
of uncertainty,---while,
.on the other hand,.
it
cannot be denied that: its rejection would excite
doubt, suspiciOn, and anxiety, both here and in
FranCe; and thi's result might, therefore, prove
extremWy disastrous, both to our political and
commercial relations with that neighbouring
country sothat Pirliament hag been placed in
4 Veit critical ?P. 40011•
We yesterday remarked upon the amendment
Proposed by Mr, •MONC KTON MILNES, to the
effect That the Ho ise of ComMons'shotild express
t 0 Majesty their deep. regret at the agitation.
°r a question affecting: the frOnfiers of a great,
States. settled by a treaty- ; and referring, at the
4414 e time, to the necessity of, a faithfUl obser-
vit'.;At, of such treaties, if thero•Was to be any due
regard to the peace of Europe. Now one would:
have thotight, that an amendthent like this should'
have been brought- forward as soon as the motion
for an address of thanks to Her MajeStY•for the
Commercial Treaty with France was proposed,
shire it seems to involve some important' points
Of the question' ,at issue. • It is because of the
agitation of this question, at the preierit mo-
ll:tont, and of the, threatened disregard of long-
tett:led': territorial arrangements,--and thereby
°t* Oat; risk - that is incurred of ...disturbing
the peace of Europe.—that., .the proposed
address of :thanks to• Her Majesty; and through
Her
Siajesty to her Ministers, for the Treaty of
Vonctrnerce with-Franc.e, was proposed. That

The Courrier des Alpes announces' that the
departure of the soldiers of the classes 1830 to
1832, called out by the Minister of War on the
24th ultimo, has, sq far as it concerns Savoy, been
postponed.