The Stourbridge Observer, Cradley Heath, Halesowen & District Chronicle.
Stourbridge, West Midlands, England, 1874-01-24 00:00:00

THE PROSECUTION OF JEAN LUIE.

To London, Mat Saturday, Jean Luis was brought before
Mr Thomas floury, at BOW4inlet. on remand, charged with
hiring committed wilful and corrupt perjury sea wltoess in
the /lawns trial, and also charged with bigamy. The
000 rt was crowded, and a consideroble number of persons
assembled to witness the arrival of the prisoner, who ate.
piped, as before, In the ordinary dram of a convict sato.'
those t at the commencement were Mr. Whalley, it. P.,
N,ingio, and Mr. Marched, the Claimant's tecretary.
SOlllO lawns having been imperilled at the Illinsuld
canals of the prisoner &ninon handcuffed, and under
sh• escort of warden and pollee-officers with drawn cat-
yaw, is nay heal well to state that these precautions are
Invirlablyjaken when a convict prisoner, still undergoing
his term penal servitude, is removed from headquarter,.
oiy. Instructed by Mr. Pollard, nonducted the
prowl:Won on the tart of the Crown; Mr. E. Lewis span
eppiated for the prisoner.—The 'l'uned gives the following
report of the proceedings:—
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Mr. Lewia &eked Sr T. Henry to direct that all the
'Wieser's should be kept out of court except thmahort-
haad writero and such as were present to give merely
formal evidem e.
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Mr. Poland presumed that the same order would
apply to Ilanlir g and the witnesses who were to he
celled for the dome°, Includrug Mr. Whalley, if Mr.
Lewis intended to examine hint.
Mr. Lewia mid he could not eay at present whom he
should then prefer to call ; but, at the suegestion of
Sir T. Henry, both Mr. Whalley and Harding also
retired.
Messrs. Charles Bennett and Matthias Levy, short.
woe writers, gave formal evidence as to the ROC uracy
of their notes ef the prieonet's evidence in the Court of
lama's Beath, In the Tichborne trial, on the lath and
11th of Octet:sr last.
Chief Inspector Clarke, of the detective force, was
then cross•examined by Mr. Lewis in reference to his
account of Lute's statements made to him while in
custody. The witness said he had been engaged upon
the Tichborne trial since the commencement of the
present proceedings in the Court of Queen's Bench,
and had no other interest in the matter further than
his duties as a police officer were concerned. He denied
that he bad made any public statement, before appre-
hending Lois, that Messrs. Whalley, Ooslow, and
Baigent had " coached the prisoner up." He bad
made no such imputations in his written reports, al-
though he might possibly have spoken upon the sub-
Oct confidentially to his superintendent and brother
inspectors in the office. He was not "appointed" to
bring Luie to that court. He did so in the course of
his duty, havingebeen intrusted with the warrant ii.
sued by Sir T. Henry.
Mr. Lewis : Upon whom instructions did you act !
Sir 'T. Henry: The witness has already told you.
Ile acted upon the authority of this Court.
Witness The prisoner did not say mech on the
first occasion, except that Mr. W.—he subsequently I
explained that he meant Mr. Whalley—had spoken to j
him on the matter. He spoke in a low tone, and, j
owing to the noise of the cab, it was difficult to make I
out all he said. A warder was In the cab at the time.
Wither had tried In vain to remember all that Line j
said in the presence of the warder. Sergeant
Butcher 1/1111 with him when he took the prisoner
hack from the court; he rode outside the cab.
This was not in order that witness might be
alone with the prisoner, but as a matter of caution,
to see that the ealsman went in the right direc-
tion. The prisoner was very communicative on
the occasion, and witness's statement that he bad
not repeated a hundredth part of what Line said was
correct. He did not enoonrage the prisoner to be' com-
municative." He said voluntarily that he should make
a statement to the Crown solicitor, and therefcre wit-
nags did not take so much notice e f what he raid LB he
otherwise should have done. Witness did not tell him
that Sergeant-Major Marks hail made &dull cot fasten.
Witness had a statement made by Marks in his pee:ses-
sion, and he might have 'velem cf it, bat not to
the prisoner. He had never told the prisoner that
he would not be prosecuted if he made a full con.
fessioo to Mr. Pollard. On the contrary, he said
that no such promise could be made. Lure said he
should not benefit by getting any one else into trouble,
and asked witness to advise him. He replied that
he could give him cc advice or promise, as he only
acted as a police officer in the matter; but he
told Lute that if he wished to make a statement it
would be better to make it to lir. Pollard, in order
that it might be written deur. To accompanied Mr.
Pollard to the House of Detent.on on the follewing
Monday. but the prisoner then said he had been advised
not to make a statement, adding that he hail seen Cap-
tain Nicholson, Witness could not ray if he had seen
Nicholson in the interim, or not till several days :Jeer.
wards. Witness: did not then write down a full state-
ment of what Luke mill, but the header o fit were taken
by Mr. Pollard. It was on the same day (December
80. Witness wrote down what he remembered of the
convereatiou a week later, but it was, in effect, the
same as he had given in evidence at the lest examina-
tion. He did not think Lois mentioned any other
names than those of Mesons. Whalley. Onslow, Itaigent,
Harding, Janes, young Bogle, and Certain Brown, as
persens wh s had inetigated him. Teem were the only
names he remembered. He had never said that Lord
ui vt re was one of the persons nem, d.
Mr. Lewis : I pre-pose now to call for the written
report sent in by this witness to the Treasury.
Mr. Poland And I don't produce it.
Sir T. Henry : It would net he evidence.
The crces•examination being reolmed, s:
he had been to America and her w New York very
well. He had some conversation with Luie about New
York, but he did not ask witness jibe had been staying
at the Astor Huse. He men:honed one or two places
which led witness to think that the prisoner had been
to New York, but he di i not put questions to him
about Australia. 'lh% prisoner del not say that
When he first wet Mr. Whalley, that gentleman
mid "It oems a providence that you shout I
turn up, lecanae none of the crews a either yes el
have ever been heard of." He did not refer to any
attempt to bribe Jon, a, or to say that Joyce had told
him so. He said he hal been to Rio. He did not
say that Jones had telcm a publichonse, but he said
that Jones was to 1 ave one. He never on any OCCS•
elan said to witness, " I dare say per are cunning
enough to have heard the tales male up by your aide
that I and Mr. Whalley made the tale ne at Brussels
In the spring." He was Lever impressed with the
belief that what Luke had said about the Osprey was true;
quite the contrary. Ile had never heard the prisoner
say the claimant was like a horse.
Mr. Lewis; You took a long time to make that
1111BIBer.
Sir T. Henry said this remark was quite unjustifi-
able.
Mr. Lewin Had you any connexion with the prisoner
before he was Olken into custody ?—Witness : Yee?
He came to my office. his tone then seemed to ridi-
rule the idea of his story being believed. Ile had been
drialdng.
Sir T. Henry Did he go to you at Scotland yard !
Witness Yes, Sir Thomas. It was after he had given
Ms evidence and before the rebutting evidence was
ogled,
Sir T. Henry.directed that this statement should be
taken down on the depoeitionr.
Mr. Poland: What did he en to Scotland-yard for '—
Witness: I cannot my. I found him in the passage.
I do not know the exact day, hot I have it marked in
my diary. He had been drinking freely and he in'
cited me to driek with hire.
Mr. Lewis : At what time of the day —Witness:?
It was about six o'clock in the evening.
Mr. Poland; Some money was promised him, I be-
lieve, if he gaged in this country—Witness: Yes.
Sir T. Henry But he would not go to Scotland-
yard for that.
Some questions were put respecting the account of
what Lure had said of Mr. Oaslow's proposal that he
should give evidence as to the Claimant'a alleged mal-
formation; but they are mint for publication.
Emma Bleach was then called, and examined by
Mr. Poland. She dated that she is the wife of William
Bleach, a clerk in the pension department, Woolwich.
In April, 155.5, she was resting at Metkehma, Wilt.,
eth her father. Sarah Coulbeurn is her sister. Wit-
ness j“;:ew the prisoner, lie married Sarah Coulbonrn
an the 2d of April, 1855, in the pariah church.
wits,es, umrn preset. and signed the resister. She
knew him as Carl Peter Lundgren. He came from
Cardiff to be married. Her ellet,r had been etaying
at Cardiff for a short time at the Scandinavian hotel,
kept by her brother. Sarah Coulbourn came home
about • month previously to is sr mu:lege. The mi.
sorter mod to visit her there, but her father withed
the marriage is be postponed for six months. This
the prisoner objected to. He represented himself as a
native of Gothenburg, in Sweden, and said that his
mother kept a baker's shop there ; he had a brother
;ivieg there also, and • sister, who stayed at a
ouseeter's house. Witness never heard el any ships
the prisoner had been in. fie sail he was one
the captain of a ship, but he did not meetion its
'name. The /second day after the .....a;-rtsee he
jw,iee to London with his wife, and roil led at
, Toe'oloorne- street, They return, ri at te v wards
to Cardiff, .end prisoner became a clerk to Cory
and Sonic' oupb,,,skerst there. Witnem remembered
the prixoner beirt „«1 alert tried at Bristol, She
warn residing at ristel at :j..'"l'"" whh her brothers
.."11. belie
who kept a publchonse the ved the peter
coner was convicted in 18G2. The pr.."'" "heel her
to take care of crone moeey f r torn, but biether
advised toe not to do so. It wee scon after tie:!' lhe,
prisoner was charged arid sentece-d to three yenre
penal servitude. Witnem never saw the prisoner after
that. Her sister still real lee at Bristol.
Cross-examined : She first B3W the prisoner a month
before his marriage at Nlelksharre
By lie. Poland: She identfied the prisoner.
Harriet Arrend, the prisoner's second wife, was then
tolled. She said : I reside in Seymour.etreet, Pad-
dington. In 1t67 I kept the Star Coff J•e•house, in
Effirware-roael. I was a widow, and sup. ore I am still.
(Laughter.) I knew the prisoner in that year as
I *Ash' John Smith. Ile stayed at my house. lie
first came and asked for a bed. We gave him one at
the bottom of the house. lie said itewas quite good
enough, as he wished to catch the six o'clock train to
Bristol the next day. My servant had instructions to
call him, but he did not e‘t up till eleven o'clock. He
went oat, but came back to sleep at my house again
that night. He said he was one of the partners of
Green and Smith, thipo entre, of East India-road. He
stayed in my house, and courted me, and I married him
on the 4th of April, 1867, at Phalle°. He was described
as "Jahn Smith, bachelor, master meriner." I think it
was in the month of Feb. that he first came to my place.
I had some money and had a marriage settlement from
him before the marriage. He said we would keep a
public house and he had taken • house in the East.
Inflia.road. We lived together for sevens or eight weeks.
neeepeagedlyreharred to the marriage settlement. When
lie executed it I took it to Somerset house, and paid 364.
/or a stamp. He /eked rue freqgently if he should
fetch it, and I replied that I would -fetch it myself. He
said It was not worth a farthing Locate* the name was
Helena. I said I should keep it all the same. lie ,
said that he could get it altered if it was wrong. I
mid I would not give it up. Ile said, " I can see yen
see an artful woman." I replied, " Artful or not, I J
don't mean to give it up. It you are sorry for the
rscrlyou have made over to me, you can have it
oTut you shall nr4 hare mine." I threw him the
Isles of the house in the East Indimroad, and, ceiling
him a blackleg, told him he might walk off. He tore
up the lease of the house be said he had taken, and,
OW SODA more words be wept out. My servant