The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
Dorchester, Dorset, England, 1872-10-15 00:00:00

THE DORSET COUNTY EXPRESS AND AGRICULTURAL GAZETTE, TUESDAY, OCTOBER 15, 1872,

by Oa 11th *Wits of the Mad** I:4MAWs Ade
relate* te Wises et ebleellea, Oat soy puma whom
aimalhal hays been Wetted ia any bawls list for
si!Lm=dosay °Meet te say ether poise.,ao sot
to have his same retained ontheburgess
IZA the, said begvagb, and if he doss hit shall give
notice to the Town Mirk of the bereeo, and also
&awarding to the form No. 3 in the sobedi, to the pr-
een objected to. He asked them to look at that for.,
the direetions in which my, as to a certain oilman
the objector must here ottte kis place of abode, and
the property for which be has been rated op the burgess
list. Now in that nolioe of objection, the widting was
'William Chariot Tidby Hound'', of Commercial
Rout but the objector was bound to show by his
node; by what right, title. or authority he objects to
the name of John Boas ; hit. bound to show that be
is • bargees entitled on amount of the house he occupies,
hut he doe. not show by his notioo of objection that he
Is • burgess on the list. The person objected to is not
bound to look at the list for his inform.tion, he must
look at the notion of objectioo Itself. and where • man
seeks to disfriuschise another, the ooarta ought to °on-
strue the directions In the strictest powiblo way. This
notice had omitted the most material part of the whole
thing, there ought to have been put in it that the
objector was cis the bargees list, and that be occupied a
house In Commersial Hoed, thereby showing the, tarty
objected to that he we. a burgess oo the list. But it
did nnt even my that Commercial Road was hie place of
abode. To make that notice anything but en absurdity,
It ought to have boon lasertod that Commercial Road
was tic, reddend of lb' objeetor, so that he eontooded
the notice, was bad in every way. His friend Mr.
Weldord had suggested that the plane in Commerce.'
Road might be • shop or a liable for anythlog they
knew, and the notice ought to have developed what it
wea As to the form In which • Dodos of objaction
ought to be, they (himself and his friends) had already
proved ace notice of objection, and if the prodding
°Moor would look at that nodee he would do the pro-
per In which lbs voter ought to describe himself.
Tbs notice as the most Invalid and ridletdous notion
that he (Kr. Hare) over saw in his life. Mr. Hato them
referred to the eases Begiow v. Mayor of Harwich, la
which the notate wee signed A.B. "of King's Quay.
street, Harwich," sad it was held to be insafloient
from not mentioning the property for which
the objector woo rated. He also referred
to the cameo Reg... Mayor 0 Meanoutk, Reg. v. Mayor
of Rao*, argued together, and the datum of Lord
Chid Indio* Cockburn was that the objeotor I.
required to dot' his name, plane of abode, and the
property fog witleh be Is rated on this burgess Bit The
opinion of Mr. Rawlinson, now Chief Justice Rawl's-
son was to the same elect, and In addition Mr. Hare
had obtained the opinion of • very eminent *ousel,
and be had given a very olear opinion that the
form of notice before them wee bad. He bad
also taken the opinion of tho Coated Registrar.
Uon Amoolabon in London, and they were shre of
opinion that the notice is &early bad. Mr. Hare also
drew the attention of the Bench to two or three cads
where there were more data than one in the wish,
and the objector did not say on which list he was, as
for Instance, whether on the .ClO list or the freedoom's
list, and where it was decided that the objector mad
show by what right or till, be attempts to take away
soother Mlle. vote. Mr. Hare submitted that thorn
was not the shadow of • pretend for tilling this •
valid or good notice. Inassouohaa it was given is radar
to disfraooldas a voter, it must be looked at 'Aridly,
and thee hilt 101 l could not be eared seder thy mates
of the bit uf Transomed ; It was an ontledon altogether,
and °add not hi eared in any shape or form.
Kr. George submitted that the notice wart entirely
good. la the first place the het of Parliament rye
that any worm on the bargees lid may object to any
ether perms en that list; there eosid not be a doubt
that the *motor was est tiro bore, bat for Ms borough,
described as William Charles Tidby Holman, of Com-
snorted Rood. He amtended that la the actin of
°Wake he had dated his place of abode, for Com-
teesda. Rood vat that plass of abode. That is where
the property for which he Is Wed is situate, for if they
tuned to the rate book, they would and Min rabid as
William Charles Why Houma, of Comments' Road.
As to the argument founded on the ease where there
was more than one list, he would remind Mr. HMI
illailo WIC borough there is only one bargee, list, sad
theses, is entirely difficult Iris • Parlbuseatery
recistratioe, therefore he need not describe what list he
objected to. He submitted that he had trimpliod
wholly with the aell of Parliament, for be had shown
ths property for which tho objector was Wool, and his
pleas of abode.
Tim Mayor's deputy sad selessors retired for maul-
Utica. On their return Mr. Mllledee odd the Court
had decided that the nothm was lavalid, Inasmuch es is
die not (amply with the terms of the Act of Perlis,
meat. .

-71-1—• voters OM'S wbloh were retalned on the list by
thb objoction being invalid wore—John Bogie, Edward
Ruston, William Cook, Kingdon Cook, Jonathan
Cook, Jamas Conley, Martha Coles, Jam.. Dart, R. A
Mooney, A. 0. Divas, tn. Dow. Hears Fooks ion.
W. Boonton Ford, J. I. Ford, J. T. triode, H. W.
Hodges, J. H. Hinds, Fumy An Harpor, Loey Sarah
Harper, Elias Hardy, Albert Berridge, mean lioacyboo'
Samuel Jacksoo, Josoph Kosley,jun., A. F. Kelsey,
James L'Areheveone, ILl•orge, Meager Jacob flog-
solids*, Williamd .00re, Riattud dark., Thomas
Marshal'say, Robert !hook, John Parson% Jolbeil
Plank, Robert Palmer Jan., Gracie Pease; Henry
Rolls, George WO:ludo Wilbam Raised, Hoyt..
Smith, and Solomon Sly, 4120 ail.
CLAMS.

The first claim made by the Liberals was for Mat-
bath Abbott, of Petticoat-lane.
Mr. Welaford contended that the notioe was bed, it
stated that Mrs. Abbott claimed on account of occupy-
ing • house in Pettiont.lane, and that she had bees
rated In the parish of Melcombe Regis doting the whole
time neonsary. This notice on the face of it was had,
for the Municipal Corporetwice An 01260:11 that every
person whale name shall ban been omitted in any
aunt banner Lit, end wire shall chi= ho be put on the
Net, shall give hones to the Town Clerk aooording to
the fora No. 2 In Schedule D, or to the like off et.
Referring to the schedule D, they woull find that the
claimant must state, acoording to the directions, the
parish or the admiral parishes to which be or she had
bees rated, and the time during which the eldruant had
been rated In each of them during the time nicewary
for his or her qualification. But the notdos before them
only stated 'during the whole time necessary" to qualify
the claimant for being • bargees. Whitt, Mr. Weisford
eased, wee that time? lie took it for granted that no
gentleman on the Bench actually knew what that time
Is. There was no stet upset of the time in the outdo.,
and this good lady, Mr. Welsiord was boned to say,
could not toll them if she was coked. But he also con-
tended that those whom be had the hoopoe of address-
log ought not to ask her, and from the fees of he
notin they scald not tell what that lady meant, He
objected to Utak asking her, she must steed by the
notioe, and there the stetter/mg required by the stet of
Parliament woe not. As to what the proper form of
notice ought to have 'oeen, if this lady had stated that
she haA been rated from the 29th day of July, 1871,
to the Ist of August lent, then their Town Clerk would
have willingly produced the Lot of Parliament to show
that the time 'Wei in the notice was the " neospary
time." But, eooording 1., the statement In the nodes
It was impartible for them to tell whether that lady
named to have been in the house and rated for it,
more than three weeks. It was absolutely necessary
for that lady to have bees rated from the 29th July,
1871, to the lit of August lost, but one if she had
dived into the Act of Parliament to have sseerteiged
whether the time she had been there was the " maso-
nry time," it would else hen been absolutely newassary
for her to have icoked through all the Ante of Pants.
meat passed during the last and present assns.°, to
know that there had been no alteration in the law, and
that the tiros she had been there wee the right time.
Mt. Bans.: How do you know she has sot?
Mr. Watford did ,not know that she had not' but be
took it that they Jould not ask her. Tb• notate was
clearly bed, for not setting out say definite period of
time. The elabsant had merely Is her Donee copied
the dinettes which was • general one, soitteined In
No. 2 form. !Isms, the slab:neat was etiolation ae to
the tines neeessary, bow coaki the Revising Offing sad
his armee reassertain from the Doti*, of slake whether
she was mistakes or not? Atmording to notion 18, it
was said that no name is to be Inserted by the Mayor
en the lire anises sotto, has loon gives.. therein
required. Tbe none* to be gives le that perihelia/
form met out areserding Is the sesties of the AM el
Pairliarsent, and the schedule 'Welted. That wee the
opinion of an erainaat aosnesl, with whisk he (Mr.
Welshed) so entirely limed that he had the presumptiee
to make it part el his Wel. The Ain gays there mad
be • stabuseet of • definite period during which the
claimant has been rated; bet nothing of the sort had
she stoned. Bewails( be (Mr. Weighed) said "I will
take you he Jersey sad stand the mosey sesemary for
your exposer if you willetate be me sheik afteseteey.'
and the other peewee replied "The whole sus
for my upscale," wield that be • masks% n 774
would set, and in llins meaner ha (Mr. Welifeed) con.
tended that " during the whole time necessary wee
no death* eletemeat of say ; it might have bees
any number slyest,, or the merest fraction of time.
The delleite time did no* appear es the nodes ; he
submitted that it was noesesary it should appear; and
therefore the sotto@ was tend&
Mr. George What anti= do you go under?
Mr. Welstord : The 17th section.
Mr. George I bare sent for the Act of Piallsosent
1 believe that entien is repealed altogether,
Mr. Dare : We go upon the form of the notice.
Mr. Welaford My friend refers to an alteration of
the time necessary to qualify for a bargees, sithentating
Doe year for two years and nine months.
Mr. GIORGI submitted that the none, of claim was
good. Rita both Abbott had been rated during the
whole time in Meloombe Reels, and she having put in
her none* during the whole Urge nosessery, "that
would mean " from the 29th dry of July in one year,
to the Ist of August in the next ye.r. tihe bad dated
that she was tire during the whole time, which was
from tho 29th July to the la August, end if that wee
not correct, they could ascertain whether eh; had be..
there during the whole time or not.
Mr. Wgierutp replied that Mr. C.I.A. tern that if
there should be any &biro/ten on tho t
eee come and explain • bat that Ina the thing be
(Mr. Weldurd) objeoted to, lie and the good lady's
mouth was shot, sin cannot give reel wet evi"ornee, the
e„tioe ps bad. Supposing rim' wore evidence Is
give., the lady =IA firet of all seine her, on a gond
notice._ . _ _

Kr. George replied that the 18th section ea • the
Mayor shall Wert in Me list the 111111111 of every 7 o
who shall be proved to the satiefeettoo of the Court tO
be retitled to be inented Imelda. His Mead mid ;kat
riod tnct woo not fadmitkd, but that ptevlsioo showed
that it was.
Mr. Weleford returned that the daltuant must ant
acme these on a good poem.
'I he Court again retired to oriesolt, and oo thoh. re.
tern the Mayor'. Depety sad the Court deeded that
the notice*. invalid, inamoolt as it did not comet,
with the not of Parliament, and they then fore could
not admit tho
The claimants who were that deprived of a chance of
a vets were .-111isaboth Abbott, Henry Borrinp
/aro, Wail= Davis, Albert Farwell, &till
Guy, Elis.leth.Hont, John Junes Smith. Jane Watts,
Benny Sarah Wooldridso, and Somme! Webber.
Tho ce„,..,.tivs clams were then promeded with.
Yrederiok Hyall, of Kisitstreet West, claimed to
have that name inserted la plans of "John Byell," hy
which ha woo natml.--Claim proved and allowed.
Thomas Chureldll was Um mat claimant; bat he did
not View, aad the Males vas dinallonod.

Job' Gloves, Is•wee, Elletatrest. *dud for a
brewhown sad sailaiesa —Kr. Groves did sot al bet
asses,, sad hie =iv was is dant= of bolas dlealleved ;
hue a whom used laae Heasyboa, who ball weesel
far hI.. alae years wan prodaeak end slow ass Kr.
Greven lad oseapled • breateLfrom aft lair.
1871, to the lot naval, 1879,1. dove &pm% asd that
he madded theca —Kr. Martin eventeer, slated that
the pima= were rat d al In thahatreet..—aoseybon,
eremeexansined, add the brewtolue and 'Wars were Is
Hope Square. —Mr. George °bleated to the elalm, se
the notice stated that the qttaHllaation wan Is Milet-
street. —Mr. Groves appeared, and It belag stated that
alas part of Hiehatreet =ends into Hope fkaart, its
vote was allowsd.

•
The ohj CUosoooltslo..i wen as folio.: John Aflm.
Joseph James Uwe°ll. John Olok, William Norman,
FUelsrd Pitt, Joseph Plunkett, Philip Pitney, Edward
Portbury Rolle. and Jobs Tucker Most of them did
not appear, and were struck out on non.appearance
after s reasernsble time had been allowed.
Subsequently Mr. Hare thanked the Prodding Mime,
the Assessors, and the Town Clerk, for their courtesy
and the kind &Haitian which they had given that
morning. Although the other ifrie bad not bees quits
so sucoessful as they could wish, yet of course theee
things w"ld 000.4ons11y happ•n, and he had no doubt
they were satisfied with the way in which the revisioc
had been conduct4.—Mr. George also offered his
thanks, the Mayor'e deputy, Mr. Madge, soknow•
lodged, end the Court rose.

harm to de it OM *gab, sad the matey
would to limeys sway. The Board mast look at the
matther she in another light. It is slwayibsatif;
Sale& to avoid borrowing money MN* It is used by
private ladivbfards ; but with reaped to paramiagat
works by a public body, to borrow money is the
cheapen way. If the work were to be paid for out of
the rates, it wmild be paid for in • lump sum; but that
would be as birth* tu present imoupiers aad (moms.
But borrowing mosey berm the rotes, for they would
P575° muoh for interest and go much to pay a the
pringdpal, sad in 30 years It would all be paid. Thus
three who might mate after them though be trusted
they might all live that time would bear their pro•
portioeate share. The question now was whether they
would have the soprani of the Board above before they
sommourod, or afterwards
In answer to Mr. A. Sotirgo, Br. Howard continued
that payments would extend over a period of 30 years,
and would be something like 6 per tient.. and at the
end they would have paid off the ~bole mg. Whilst
ape Idog of plans he remarked that of those places
which had drained without 131111 obtaining this !approval
of the Board above, in only one place did the drainage
, got the approval afterwards, and many towns have been
, in a state of great trouble and eonsterustion, after they
, had laid out their money. If this Board will not go to
tb oßoard shove end get their approval, they must
, make whet arrangements they ran for PaYkill the
Premiums for the plena. Keen if they obtained the
approval, it would he a quostion afterwards whether
they should spend £3,000 or not, getting the approval
did not require them to spend the money.
Mr. HOOD= oould not sae how the Board are more
• out of the Government bands if they borrowed of
• Woo.

The ULTRA said it tau not like • borrower going to •
leader. The plans went up aceompenied by the esti-
mate ,• but that dote not any thu Board are going to
lend the money. Let them get the Boards approval;
but that does not pledge them to borrow the money.
Mr. A. Sceirge amid they wore carrying the portion
of the drainage required at present ;and there is a httle
more that wants doing, all boom., • few dirty people
let their watercloeste rlea'n Into the street drains. If
that were not done, Portland would be one of the
healthiest place. In Ragland. As to the expense of
drains for Under hill, let them see what Seaton-street
nod Reforms bad must I Below in Mader bUI ttey bad
been employing Dickey Stone with a broom stirring on
the stinks, and that wee all the Under hill people get,
although they wore the largest ratepeyers in the island.
And now they wanted to make up at leaton-square •
••d • Veen, and a band-boner, rod goodness
knows what l—theagliter). And all this as the ezpeses
of the Under-bill ratepayers. lion, half the matey
to be laid out Under hill, bed been properly laid oat
they would not bare wanted any appeal to the Govern•
meet or any Mr. Harrisoo. . . . .

_
--Tho CHAIRMAN Sad the only Id be should maks
to Oaprin Bairs was that he wis the had
been of the memo mind throe y ago; 7014sLutho)
would not have had the expire.
Mr. A. &MEM rid he had always been of the seas
mind; bat the Top Hill members had always objected
to It. ThariThad not spout or peony properly below
bill; but had employed men to stir up the stinks
and try to sr the prelim.
111r..7. P. SoluVge mid he had board Oaptain Bairn
bring forward the rote of Porter's Well street one.;
but thee is. went to the very extreme, and would not
give way one iota, and that was why the Board oould
not go with him.
Mr. A. SollrirsX said he had offend the Board to dad
store for the gutters and employ a person to lay them
" Thalweg Won you" (Mr. .7. P. Striven) " belonged
to Ur Board."

--1—• ;sewer— —to Mr. J. P. liCitlYrn. the Clerk mid that
I. Weymouth they were borrowleg 015,1.100 of the
Wed of loglaad Ossapeey.
Mr. As finglYin : Yes, benewing it atljd. per sent,
and you aro gong to lay it up at 2ilperleeet.
Kr. E. Peals mid that the Sanitary Commiselmers
will ham drainage la maims plena, and ores the
country piens will have to carry it one. They In Poet-
ised will have to do the same. As regarded saddling
the present Mamma with them improvement& he
thought it mead be a great pima of tequilas. Let
them borrow the moray sad Amish Unlit,' at one& and
mot dolt pleseme•L Their rates would not be es heavy,
sad when tit* drab..,. properly eat out. they would
ae4 ham to lay out so mach apon them. If the Board
west £l,OOO, let theta ask for the loan.
The OLOth said what Kr. Name had mid was quite
wrest. Every bah of land In logland is wader the
Sanitary Board, sad the local board would either have
to do lie drainer, themselves, or the Sanitary Board
would do it for them.
Mr. O. Worn Pitt if be remembered rightly, chignain
' Swim' was the Irst to propose to invite Waders for
Mr. CIOCEIIa was requested to lad the minute
rentitag this matter, sod reed "A. regards drainage
and supply, it wee prepaid by Mr. A. Serino
. . that advenisemonts be issued fora competent
person to Garry out wok works."
Mr. C. Wurre woeld advootto borrowing the money,
for if the works were paid for by the current rates, any
perms coining here • few years after would reap the
full benefit of the works, and entirely *soaps the
expense.
Mr. T. P. Ektowith, referriog to Mr. filegg's estimate,
thought they had better at onoe resolve to send it to
the Board above, and ask for powers to borrow. H 4
begird to propene that they at ono" nod up Kr. illegg's
getimete for the drainage of the whole of the blind.
and nquest powers to borrow the money.
Mr. K. Platten seconded.
Mr. A. Seeman would propose that that they do not
borrow any money. Whatever they laid out, lot it be
out of the present gates-
Mr. J. P. BONY= No person has proposed to
borrow anyinioney.
The CLIME: That proposition may some afterwards.
Mr. A. Scans •.td nine-tenth. at the wtheywyer•
so. sot I. • position to pay what they are now called
on for. Many of them only get 8.. • week to live as.
and how were they going to pay theme heavy elites, only
to stops few dirty people?
Mr. C. WHIT 11: How are they to pay the rates, if you
do not borrow the m 00.,?
The Otte' said the proposition was not to borrow
money, but to obtain the sanction of the Board above
to borrow it, to base that amotioo is one thing, to
borrow the money another. Therefore Capt. S'artTelet
wee not an amendment, there Wball none before this
meatiag.
Kr. J. P. &Mein sold they had kept the miner
about quit* long enough. He did net say whether he
was in favour el borrowing orjnot ; but he want,d to
get this part of the question settled, and they coald go
into the borrowing gneetion afterward&
Mr. CaMmea than read the resolution, "That the
Clerk be requested to forward the plans and estimates
prepared by Mr. filegg, ti the Loral Government
Bend, sad ask their emotion to borrow the sum el
£3,500.
Kr. A. Some=: Why put £3,500? If you put
81,500 it will he • great deal better.
The Men : You had better get sufficient poems.
If you get the mastioo, you need not borrow the mousy
ardent you want it.
Mr. A. SoalYrit: We shall get head over heels In
debt. That entente does not include waterworks.
Kr. J. P. &arum : It le only for ; ii yea
want waterworks you must put on £lO,OOO more.
The 011A11131ag : WaterwOrks are what we want on
the tap of the Hill. I oertainly must object to Wing
ap 0,000 for draw" if you take sip nothing for water-
works. Weston is warm off than any part.
The Mug pointed out that the estimate was for
drainage on the top of the Hill se well as below.
The Ogaritatao : We do not want draisage on the
Hill. Only 13aderbiU wants drainage, Topidll wants
waterworks; I elmaid Certainly move an amendment
to Mr. Scrim's proposition, I should object to mosey
being borrowed, If we don't get waterworks before
dralaage.
The MIME suggested that the question of water-
works should be brought on at the nest meeting.
Mr. J. C. Lure thought the plug gent up speollod
waterworks as well al drainage.
Yr. J. P. Scamp believed the best seherait for
waterweeits was on the other plan marked "Thorough."
0110•11:111 mid that in all the diemasions the water
quietism had always bees shelved.
The mid the Board did got like the plan of
for thr water, but only for deluge.
Kr. A. Stagrewit believed that Fortenee Well le se
badly of for ester as any part. Mr. Lane should see
60 at 70 people waiting in the summer mornings for
water sad half of them go off without say.
The Mumtaz said there would be great dissatiefae
ties with all Weston and with all Tophill people, if the
money were tithes for drainage ad none for water.
Mr, A. Somme : We ars all diesinieled that our
moony has been spat for your ireprovetamte above the
The Meng suggested that the question of water
should be regularly brought ap for disowns ea • die
Meet thing. Water sepply was most imoortast. but
when the plans were eooellered Kr. Beestest and every-
body ease thought there were bettor piths then Mr.
:f
eelter water. The board had better send up the
plan; the Beard above would Pot aompt It
la • mommt, but there would be • good deal of red.
tape, and • good many qmetioss asked.
Mr. C. WRITS: If you ask for all the money now,
theindiag the water, you will pin 'varmint; to both
Kr. Slaw's Plum
Kr. boon said when the new Rooter *omits and
settles blamed down, the Island will soon be In two
divisions, and then the Underhill people ma have what
they like ; there never will be good feeling until there
are two division,.
Mr. A. &WNW : I hope the honk, will be squared
up, to see what las been spent on Tophill and won on
Underhill. Then the land wee rated mush too low;
some at EIS an sore wee only rated at 15s,
Mr. 8. PRAION : Speak the troth.
Kr. A. &ALVIN Keay so acre of land Protium@
116.

Mr. 07Th: Yes, "army an acre' way; bat not
ono acre.
Mr. A. Scarves: litre is a pima of land (p.
out of the window) worth £3O • year, and vetoed
50e. I thick., ought to protest agaiata the rate, mid
here • new valuation.
Mr. & (Imam : I should say the Royal Rotel would
go up thes—(langhter).
In answer to tho OsAmiesa,
The Cum advised that the water and llto &Mame
questions be kept asperse% became the water supply
would always return a profit; the Board would carry
It Into the houses and make • charge. Corporations
that supply water take the works into their own hand.
and InrarMlly make ainr&ll rate. The water is used
for ocruerratories, water closets, ho. arid thus Me eisth
people who are large oonsumere, lighten the rates of
the poor.
Mr. A. Scamp did not think this water sue wasted
Sot the people; it vas for the cattle. The Board had
just as much nght to find settle in hey end beans as In
water.

(PoenUnit
A but

dome demur woe made Ix the idea of charging ptople
for water ; bug
The Cutux expiaitted that If they borrowed £lO.OOO
for water, they matt pay a that Wales their drainage
outlay. Thus the rates would be inoreeeed, sad though
people might think the water was free, yet they would
have to pay fait in rates. Whereto if • imam had
ratios ooa as tanks, sad did Ist require so
auseb 'etc. it wisid sot bo fair fee his to pal*
math.
Me. J. Boum'. tossisilm was carried

Dili DAM AND TSB SNOWS.

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