The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
Dorchester, Dorset, England, 1866-11-06 00:00:00

RUT?R.

To the maker of the best 12 lb.. of printed butter—
Piece of plate, value £2. Mears. Perham ; second, CI,
Ur ti Harding; thleA, lflig, Mr I. Maack, Moratlntha.
The annual dinner took place at the Grosvenor
Arms Hotel, at three o'Jlock. The fare was of the
most sumptous and elaborate description, reflecting
very [peat credit upon mine host of the Grosvenor.
H. G. Start, Eeq., n. P., presided, the vica-ctiair being
filled by the president of the society. Amongst
those present we also noticed T. F. Grove, Req., IL P.,
Sir R. G. Glyn, G. Troyte- Bullock, Esq., Rev. J. J.
Reynolds, J. Dußoulay, W. R. Glennie, G. Evans,
J. 0. Raymood, C. E. Bookland, J. C. Thomas, W.
E. Berridge, G. Phillips, J. E. Brine, G. Gongs,
W. Y. Foot, Nairn, and Mears. Abbott, Mansfield,
T. Soarnmell, Theere J. P. Allen, T. B. Chitty, J.
New, F. Miles, J. SOppitt, J. Sutton, Mayo, Soul,
T. B. Mills, Ball, Burridge, Welch, Jay, E. J.
Whitmarsh, Dr. Sheltie, Dr. Swain, flo., fle.
The room was beatvifully decorated with fliwg
evergreens, leo., and at the head of the table was the
' old agricultural motto, "Quit speed the plough," and
sower to the Shaftesbury Farmers' Club and Agri.
cultural Society."
After the cloth had been removed,
The CHAIIIHMI, on rifling, said he dli not know
whether they bad notissd that at • large dinner given
in the north of England the other night, Mr. Beales -
the would-be member of Parliament—who was in the
chair, save "The health of the Queen and the People."
Now, far be it from him to say anything disrespectful
Of derogatory of the people of this country—(hear, hear).
But he thought at the same time he might take upon
himself to say that it was the wish of the inhabitants of
the town and neighbourhood of Shaftesbury, that the
toast of Queen Victoria should stall be pre-eminent—
(bear, hear). He should, therefore, ask them to drink
"The health of the best, the most gracious and consti-
tutional of sovereigns, the Queen," who was never for-
getful of the interests and welfare of her people and the
eountry---(vvat cheering).
Band: "God save the queen."
The CHLIRMAX, on rising to propose the next toast,
said they had drank the health of their most gracious
Queen, he now asked them to drink the health of her
son and daughter-in•law. "The Prince and Prineees of
Wales." The Prince of Wales was now pretty well
known to them, and his affability woe displayed to
every one he came &mos.. As to the Princess, nobody
who had seen her could but admire, honour, and
esteem her. The Prince had been in most parts of
Europe ; and wherever he went he was always met
with royal welcomes and approbation, and always
with in regret. He asked them to drink the
petted
of the Prince and Prinoese of Wales—(cheers).
Bend: "God bless the Prince of Wales."
The Cllalltnalf said of all the toasts he had to
submit to them that evening none was more popular
than that of the "Army, Navy, and Volunteers."
The army required no words of euloeum from him.
Every Englishman knew what an Englishman was
made of; but at the same time it was not fair to
allow an English army to fight an enemy which had a
better weapon than their,. Every one who had read
the accounts in Ile newmpapers of the late war well
knew that the Enfield rifle mu beta oedema weapon
when pitted against a breath loader. He was pleased
to know that Her Majesty's Government—the present
Government—(hear, hear, cheers and laughter). -had
given orders for the snpplying of • similar ans• In
• few months every soldier and sailor in the British
service would be armed with • breech-loader. First,
then, he would ask them to drink the healthyo( their
army as the defenders of their .at colonial empire ;
secondly, he would ask them to drink to the health of
the navy as the preservers' a the honour and prestige of
the British gag, and tattle, the health of their brave
volunteers who came forward at the moment of peril to
this country, and of all those who preserved the integrity
of the British soil and the safety of their homes--(bersr,
hear, and cheers). He would couple the toast with the
nsmes of Sir Richard Glyn with the army and Mr.
F. Groves, for the Yeomanry, and Mr. Berridge with
the Volunteers— (cheers.)
Band: "Rule Britannia."
Sir RICHARD GLYN, in responding, said he was highly
henoured in being called upon to respond to the toast.
It was six years since he had been in the army, and he
woe sorry there waa no one present whom connection
with tivi army was of a more recant date. He did uot
think • regiment of infantry or cavalry very frequently
rtat'through the streets of nhaftesburv. Be thought
sd ro
a great teal better for Shaftesbury that it was an
agricultural town, than It would be if it were to barman
encampment in or about it—(hear, hear). It was much
better for the towns of England to be as they sere than
to bane their gates shut up every evening at six o'clock.
Shaftesbury, however, famished the army, as well as
other places, with men, and they were always proud to
secure and see them—(hear, hear).
Mr. F. Georg, M.P., responded on behalf of the
Yeomanry, and in doi3g sowed he was much gratified at
being called upon to respond for the Yeomanry the
Willa and Dneet Yeomanry. He lalizysidthe saw manor!
two gentlemen trahryo hewlholiged to
were moermliv si
bers :ftrei7.o.boum
Cavalry. He himself had the command of • troop of
the Wilts Yeomanry, and he was glad to Dee Several
gentlemen present who belonged to that company. He
had no with to reflect upon the Dorset Yeomanry. He
had seen them many years ago at Weymouth, and in
foot they were such a fine body of men that be could
scarcely look at them without uneasiness (laughter).
The Shaftesbury Volunteer, were • very efficient body
of men, and he was glad to we one of their officers there
to rem nil to the toast for thern—(hear, hear).
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which
a they
phyaato
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thanks
lil
volunteers. e
The gnat atoms of their seams and eMcVney was the
liberality of their noble commandant; but they were
not • little indebted for that success to their worthy
eltaiinum—(hear, hear).
I
The Camismat then said the nett toast he had to
=stato the was an old awl thus honoured one; cue
he hoped would never be forgotten at, meelisp

I like that, "The health of the Bishop and Clergy of the
Diocese." Nobody could deny that the bishop was an
able, hardworking. salons prelate. With regard to the
alerey of the county, he thought be would not be
accused of fiattering if be said they were second to none
in the country. Ile was glut it was not out of place
for the clergyman of the pariah to be present at those
gatherings. They were always identical with their
interest in .the agricultural community. lie would
couple the toast with the name of the Rev. J. .1
Reynolds. and ask them to driuk "The Bishop and
Clergy of the Diocese"—(ohcers).
The Rev. J. J. ReYeeLDe rose to return thank+ for
the kind manner in which they had received the toast of
the bishop and clergy, mud the flattering expressions
with which the chairmen had inentioced his name in
coupling it with the toast. Of the bishop he ieight
say that wherever he visited he had been found to
just as the chairman had described him. When he
heard that this toast had been received in such a way,
It would give him greet pleasure, not for his own sake
only, but for his work's sake. He went on to laud
these &email gatherings, saying he believed that one
of the real, though indirect, effects of them was the
bringing of neighbours together. The direct motive, of
course, of a society of this kind, was the furtherance
of agriculture, and the cultivation of the soil
and its productions. But it had been said
that agriculturists were rather wanting in energy
in the application of steam and scientific appliance in
their profession. This be denied. No one could travel
about the country without seeing in many parts steam
applied is all aorta of ways. He was quite sure if it
were not for these means they should not be able to get
the crops into the barn or into the stack. Therefore,
they had shewn, in making use of these 'Mantilla ap-
plummy that they were not wanting in the energy
attributed to them. Societies of that kind were sufficient
proof of the interest taken in the labouring classes.
Where agricultural faience was very low, nearly the
whole of the population were engaged in I reducing food
for the country. In England, in the year 1847, nearly
one-fourth of the population were so engaged, whilst in
Franoe the proportion was one-third. Now, in 1847, the
average was only oneiserenth. Therefore, that was a
proof they had done their best, and nobody could deny
that the agriculturists had discarded that disadvantage
which they had been under. He wished to remind other
classes that egriculturiste did not depend upon their own
exertions alone. In other professions many mechanical
arts were under their own management, hut agricultu-
rids had to depend upon the elements. But even in
that respect they found science helped them. When he
was • boy—of course that was a long time ago, he
loareely dared to think how long—he had reed • book in
which an idea ran something like this. The farmer was
talking over the matter as to what was to be done during
the day throughout the farm. The "toward tells him
that he thinks the turnips would take a good shower ;
the barley a slight shower, and the wheat mu-t have atm
shine. Well then, says the farmer, let's get down the
drawing-glass, and let the turnips and barley have the
rain, and draw the clouds off the wheat that it nosy have
the sunshine. This dialogue is to take Place about the
year 2002. Let science do what it could it was still good
for them that they should be led to remember that
there was one upon whom all mad depend—He who
gave the earth to man and bade him tilt end not abuse
it for the use of himself and fellows—(hear, hear).
The band played an appropriate air.
The CHAIM/AN said Afterhaving drank the health of
the Queen and of the Royal Family, his asked them, to
drink the health of their "Lord Lieutenant and Magis-
trates of the county." No county could bosst of •
better Lord Lieutenant than Lord Shaftesbury—
(hear, hear). His name was well known, not
I only in Europe, but in almost every part of
the world. He gave up his time almost entirely
for the promotion of the interest and looking after the
welfare of the poor. The nagistretea he said, were •
worthy body of men, who always wanted to temper
justice with mercy, and whenever they could they let
the prisoner off—(laughter). They had two or three of
them there that night, and he was sure they would
give them • specimen ot their judicial eloquenoe—(bear,
and laughter).
Mr. G. Taorrg-Butdoeg thanked them for the way
in which they had remised their health', and went on
to speak about the great philanthropy of Lord Mattes.
bury, and of his recent exertions at the Social Science
Congress at Manchester. With regard to the magis-
trate' of the county, he did not know that they let the
1 prisoners off as the chairman had saio, but they always
I gave them the benefit of • doubt. They felt determined
to deal out justice to the best of their ability.
J. Du Buotar, Esq., also returned thanks for the
manner in which the chairman had proposed and they
had remised the toast. It was on occasions like these
alma opportunities were afforded for expressing thcir
sympathy in theee agricultural matters. The regula-
tions with regard to the cattle plague had imposed
eertain duties upon the magistrates and still heavier
biliours upon the farmers. He was very glad to bear
witness to the hearty way in which the farmers had
supported the law as they had. This, he mid, was the
cause of their immunity from that disease—(hear, hear).

Sir RICHARD OLT/I said that the pleasure now
devolved upon him of givine them the most important
toaat—it was the toast of "Their worthy Chairman and
the Members for the Vounty of Dorset"—(great applause).
He had heard a tradition mentioned there that such
things as polit as were not Lobe breathed in that room.
Ile coneidered that they came there for three things—
a good dinner, enother to ta'k about the agricultural
interest, and, thirdly, to hear from the members present
what they hoped would be doing next seseion— (hear,
hear). A. he was in the unhappy position of not being
on in political buainesa he was unable to way anything
about it. He would leave their member for the county
to explain his views to them—(hear, bear). There were
rerhaps some there who would not like them, but be
was sure they would like to hear them—(hear, hear). It
was impossible that all people should be on the sante
side, but all hia friends would be delighted to hear what
he was going to do—(bear, hear). Therefore he would
leave it to members then present to talk to the meeting
about them political aubjeets. As well as the chairman
they had to drink the health of the county members.
They were not only county members but members of the
county and people who lived in the county—
(hear, hear). They constantly met at the magi,.
testes', and other meetings of the county. He
thought there were few counties so happy in their choirs
of members of Parliament ao the county of Dorm!, and
he hoped there would be very few change* in the county
members for many years to come—(bear, hear, and
cheers).

11. G. Seiler, Esq., u. r.. on rising to respond, wee
received with long and continued opulence. After MO
cheering had ceased, he mid it was not only a high
honour lout it was an exceedingly pleasant thing to repre-
sent in Pediment the county of Dorset, and amongst
the manyagremble coutin ensue accruing to that honour,
none was greater than having opportunities like that of
coming among bisonnstituents—he hoped be might my his
friends—of Doreet—thear,hear)—and there meeting with
such a recepain as that which they had just so kindly
awarded to him—(cheen). These meetings were incen-
tives, if any were wanting, to him to do his duty, and to
wateh over the interests of those who returned him to
that august assembly—(hear, bear). Now let hint con-
gratulate them upon their excellent gathering that even-
ing, considering that the cattle plague had p tad
the cattle show, and especially upon the bead they
showed at that end of the mble—(hear, him). ladeed,
he might may that among the many meetings he had
attended in Dorset never lisd he se-n the head of the
table filled better than at Shaftesbury—(ames). He
had notioed that the last time he WU there—to be sure
he was the only representative of Her 'Nasty'. Govern-
ment on this occasion—them, and great laughter)
which gave him quite an official, he might say quite •
sseiequential poeition—(laughter). . Rut whether IS
was that or not, or whether it wee the pleasant effect et
the Shaftesbury air, te could not but feel that
he was • match for the whole of them on tb•
other side—(great laughter and cheers). Singe
he was there last a great many changes oerteinly
had taken plies. To begin with, when he walked into
the House of Commons, instead of turning to the right,
as he bad done for 16 years, he turned to the left. There
he saw before him his friend Mr. Grove and Mr. Port-
man basking in his old pleas on the other side—
(laughter). He was sure they would excuse him if he
imbed them long life and happiness in that position—
(greet laughter, loud cheer., and odes of "heir, hear").
He was afraid he bad a very tempting bait thrown out
to bias by Sir Richard Glyn, who was an expert fisher.
man—(lenghter). He had thrown the fly well, and by-
and-bye he would tell them a little, but not more than
his discretion would permit—(mar, bear). His honour-
able colleague at Dorchester remarked that there were
many important topics upon which members might talk
to their constituents- There was the cattle plague, the
harvest, the great system of education, and Islet, but not
lees!, the question of reform—(hem, hear). He was sure,
to be serious, that there waa matter of treat eoogratula-
See is the fact that they were favoured by Providence so
as to house their harvest as they had. He WU in the north
during the months of August and September, where he
saw the fields of grain becoming blacker and bleaker, it
was to him quite a heart-rending spectacle—(heir,
hear). He wished he could deliver them a lecture upon
farming, hut he most confess he knew but little about
it. He did not know whether his friend. Mr. Reynolds,
was • farmer, but of one thing he was certain. he went
chit like a man. He begun at 1842 and worked up to
1866. and he might say he (Mr. Reynolds) did it re.
markably well. [Mr. Reynolds : It was to the year
2002. The Chairman: Oh II beg pardon, I have left out
thousand years] —(enet laughter). He weeping lobe
a farmer dimwit, arid he intended to learn by experience
so that he would be able to tell them another year—
(beer, hear, and laughter). He said there was nothing
so easy as being a farmer when they had to pay no rent
—(laughter). That ems his position, and he dared say
some of them would not care if it Tete theirs—(laughter).
Whilst he was on the subject of farming, he wished to
give a piece of a ivies to ell young men in Dorset sad
Wiltahire, and, he thought he might my, throughout
the length and breadth of the land, especially if at any I
future time they were to penises • landed estate. H.
would advise them to learn • little farming and s
law—(cheers and laughter)--and that he thouht wee
sound, practical, and good advice (hear, beer. He
wished he knew • little more about farming, an as for
law, why Mr. Gongs would finish him off in • couple of
shalies—(great laughter). But a knowledge of law and
farming was necessary in a landed propdetor—(hear,
hear). Lawyers were a very queer set of men—
(laughter) though he mild count amongst them many
personal friends, both in London and in the country—
(hear, bear)—but when they once got hold of any one—
(laughter)—they had a very bad habit of taking the
shirt off his beck —(great laughter). He intended to
bring one of his sons up to farming, and by learning •
little law he would be si match for any little new that
might run about—(rams ot laughter, Mr. Genie, hi m•
self, joining in the laugh). He now came to the lase of
his subjects, the question of Reform—(eheers). Be
knew politica were not allowed at Shaftesbury—(ides
of yes, yes, hoar, hear, and laughter). But, not with.
standing that he was their representative, and he felt it
his bounden duty to watch over their interests and to
give them a little advice if they wanted it—(cheers,
hear, hear, and laughter). His advice to them we. to
take cared thetuselves—(great laughter). It ',mall very
fine to talk otherwise, but the agricultural interest wog
not sufficiently strong at that moment in the Home of
Commons to have it. grievance and voice heard—(hem,
bear)—and if they listened to Mr. Meht they would
have no influence whatever— (hear, beer). He wee speak-
ing in the presence 1.1 his friend who sit cm the nth.,
side of the house,but be thought hie i'dend.Mr. Grove, did
not countenance In any degree Mr. Bright's allegations—
(beer, hear). Mr. Grove lived from the land and by the
land, and it be would swamp tam agricultural totemt
sod go bowie and tells with Mr. Bright to revolutionise

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judicially ruled the affairs of the nation. Now be was not
going to make a epees* against Reform be would wait
until he hunt what his master, Lord Derby, had to sly
upon the sane& But he did believe if the present
Government came forward and brought out a well.
:natured and carefully-prepared Reform Bill -not listen-
ing to the ex.:worsted statement" made by an eloquent
demagogue like Mr. Bright-he thought it would receive
the support of all sides of the House of Commons-
(hear, hear, and cheers). 'He wished sinoerely to see
that question settled-(cteers)-for he was convinced
that if nothing were done in it great danger was to beep
prehended in the future. He feared he had told them a
little too much. He had done it by being drown out by
their excellent friend and neighbour, Sir Richard Glyn;
and whilst on that subject he thought they should be
obliged to Sir Richard for appearing there that evening.
He had got • long way to go and come to attend that
meeting, and he feared so had one or two other gentle-
men who were present. He was afraid he had exceeded
what the late Doke of Richmond had advised him to do
-" Never for more than ten minutes speak at an agri-
cultural dinner"-(laughter). He hoped he might for a
long time ae allowed to represent in Parliament the
county of Dorset. He should always have their welfare
and interest at heart, and he hoped the blessing of
God, of which they had bad such unmistakeable
evidences, might ever re-t upon them. (Mr. Start re-
sumed his seat amidst loud and continued cheering.)
The CHAIRMAN next proposed 'The health of the
Masten of Foxhound' in the County," especially
coupling with the tout the sumo of their friend Sir
Rieltard Glyn-(oheers).
Sir RICH ARO GLYN responded.
Mr. Du HOOLAT proposed the health of the members
for Wiltshire, one of whom was then present-(year,
hear, and applause).
Mr. GRAN& on 'rising to respond, was very cordially
greeted. He said be thought they might refer to politi.
cal matters without treading upon anybody's toes; they
might talk in • general way in Mr. Start's pleasant
manner, which he was cony to say be could not imitate.
It iequired • very great deal of tact, and • groat deal of
talent to say • great deal and mean very little-(laughter
and cheers). They were led to suppose that they were going
toget • revelation of something which would put them up
to the state of affeirs, mere especially as their friend Mr.
S urt now represented the Government in power ; end
then he suddenly gave them a few very nice generalities
as to what they might hope Lord Derby would do. He
quite agreed, however, with Mr. Stort, that it was
rather premature to say what the Government were
going to do, because he very ouch doubted if they knew
themselves what to do-(bear, hear). Ile believed they
were really railing to see what the public feeling
required -Cleat son-and In that be thought they
were perfectly right. Mr. Stun had said that be
knew be (Mr. Grove) did not approve of what
Mr. Bright did. To on extent he perfectly agreed
with that. He believed that in very many
of his ideas Mr. Bright was acting prejudicially
to the agricultural interest, and in so far as he
did, that he (Mr. Grove) should do his humble best to
oppose him; but they might depend upon Mr. Bright
for one thing. The cpaestion of reform required ventilat-
ing. and Mr. Bright, by holding the public meetings in
various parts of the country, was doing a great deal to
that end, so that all would be able to judge of the extent
of reform which was really necessary. He had beard
Mr. Bright speak, and no man admired the hon. gentle-
man's talents more than he (Mr. Grove) did, but at the
same time he thought that Mr. Bright had made a great
mistake, for he bed associated himself with Ernest
Jones, the Chartist, with Mr. Reales, Mr. Potter, and
one or two others who went in for universal suffrage.
He did not think there was any geutlemen in the roots
who would advocate that, and he was sure he would not,
but he was of opinion that if they did get the franchise
reduced very low in boroughs, they would have to
thank those who opposed the moderate bill, as he con-
sidered it, of theists Government. He did not mean to
say tint the Pall Mall Occetle was the organ of the
present Government-quite the contrary, but it was
generally very right, and he recently read in it that the
meant Government were gning to bring in • reform
bill for household suffrage in boroughs and a E2O rental
in counties. If ouch were the cue he did not under-
stand how those gentleman who opposed the bill of the
late Government could oonscientiondy vote for this He
had no doubt that • good many of the advanced Liberals
would vote for it, and he should do so himself. He
voted for the lest bill on every possible occasion. He
had numerous letters from his supporters asking him to
support it, and he had only one asking him to oppose it.
That was from the coroner of Selisbury, who came all
the way up to ask him to vote against the bill, and told
him that if he did an he was quite certain the Conserva-
tives would all support him. He reminded the gentle-
men that he was returned by the Liberals, and if he
falsified their expectations of him they would not
support him again. The gentletnan replied that if be
did so they woeld all support him and the Conservatives
too. He replied, however, that he could not do that;
he did not believe in being white one day and black
another-(hear, hear). He believed in liberalism-
(bear, bear)-though he did not mean radicalism -(hear,
hear). Ile never was a radical; and he believed that
upon many questions Mr. Strut and he would agree. Mr.
Start was • Conservative, but he was in advisees of the
party, and was not like General Peel, for instance., who
said that the Reform Bill of 1832 was an unmixed evil,
and that the country
tory condition as since the pu-ing of that bill. He did
not think Mr. Stun held that opinion; he thought •
great deal too well for that. lie hoped the present
Government would bring in a reform bill-a moderate
reform bill, and if they so reduced theiwfranehise as to
give • vote to the most imtelligent or the working classes,
all he could say was that he should give them his support;
became he did not go to Parliament pledged to support
any particular party. He was not elected to doss; he
was allowed great latitude, and was only expecte to
vote according an his conscience dictated. He hoped
the Government would brine in such a bill, because he
thought the recent meetings in widens parts of the
kingdom had plainly manifested that reform was
necessary-that • certain reduction of the borough
franchise must be brought about, and they might depend
upon it that if they did not reduce the franchise the
lower classes would get up an agitation which would
not only be prejudicial but fetal to tne Interests of this
country. He believed that at the present time affairs
were in a very dangerous state. Certain demagogues
were going about advocating universal suffrage, and
if the public bad not conceded to them what they
required. why they would take it. It was not supported
that 19,000,000 would allow 1,000,000 to have all the
voice in the legislation.,Zir the country, while they
themselves were entirely abut out in the cold shade
Personally be did not require a reduction of the
franchise, because he had got • vote at present, but it
was required for thou men who had shown by their
intelligence, by their education, and by their orderly
conduct-as in the case of the operatives of the
Manchester district during the cotton famine -that
they were capable of excercising the franchise,
not prejudicially, but to the benefit of the
country at huge. He thought that in • certain propor-
tion they were entitled to it so long as they did not
swamp other intereets-(heer, hear). It was calculated
that by the Reform Bill of 1832, 31 per cent, of the
working dames would have the franchise. Well, some
electoral ieturcui were recently made by *gentleman well
known to many of them-Mr. Lambert, for many years
•very respectable solicitor of Selialsory ; and he (Mr.
Grove) believed no man of higher character, no more
intelligent, thoughtful man exi-ted than Mr. Llmbert.
Well, as a poor-lew ommissioner under the late Govern-
ment, he compiled some electoral returns, and he
ascertained that only 26 per ocnt, of the working classes
now had the franchise. He believed there were fewer
elutors now in Dorsetshire than there were in 1832; he
knew that in Wiltshire the number of electors had not
increased according to the population, and he believed
it was so in Dorsetahlre. The last Reform Bill, which
proposed to reduce the b Tough franehira down to el,
only brought the proportion up to about 30 per cot it. of
the working clauses. He had never heard the estimate
of 26 per cont. disputed, though Mr. Bright, who was an
authority on these subjects thought it was only about
24 per cent, PO that even taking it at 26 per cent- there
wan still • deficiency of about 7 or 8 per cent, below
what was to be conceded by the Reform Bill of
1832. Sorely they would be prepared to restore
that. He wanted, too, just to correct a mistake
which was made by Mr. Stud, who had said they were
indebted to the present Government for the new breech '
loading ; hut he would remind them that Lord
Hartington, before be went out of office, had ordered
40,000 of them-(hear, hear, and applause). That WM
an acknowledged fact-(hear, hear). They were actually
in process of being made at the time the late Govern-
ment went out of office. It wu true that General Peel
had sines ordered another 60,00 n, so as to make tin
ourtiber up to 100,000. He (Mr. Grove) gave him every
credit for that. but et the same time he was only carrying
out what had been begun for him by Lord Harlington.
Of course he (Mr. (Irove) was not on the Ministerial
side of the Howie now. He had only been • year and a
half in Parliament altogether; but change of sir was
good for them all-(hear, hear)-and he really had got
a presentiment that nut session they would go back
again to the other ride. He had ro doubt that Ur.
Start, having been a short time on the Ministerial side,
would derive such benefit that he would go over to the
other side-having been in the sun he would not like to
go over Into the shade-(laughter).
The CHSIIIIIIIg said, as the representative of Her
Majsety'" Goverament, he could not allow that shadow
to fall morose their path which had been raised by Mr.
Grove's quotation from an old copy of the Pall Mall
auent. He was perfectlyeoavinoed, to use a vulgar
expression, that that was"all my eye"--(laughter)-
and to have that palmed off at a Shaftesbury meeting
as o sketch of Lord Derby's Reform Bill was more
than he could stomach-(laughter and applause). As
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gel- veil him (the chairman) very much to see biro
walking into the lobby on every occuion with Mr.
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candidates.

The CHAIRMAN next proposed "The health of tl •
Suocesonl Candidates."

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Mr. Poor, Mr. HASRILL, Mr. Mites, and Mr. BMA.
FIRLD briefly sekaowlrdied the compliment.
The CLIAIMIAM promise' " The health elr their
Borough Member, Mr. 0.0. Glyua"—(oheers).

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