The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
Dorchester, Dorset, England, 1859-01-11 00:00:00

BA NK RI: PI'S.

(From tho Lon'lon Gazette of Tuegday.)
Jolin Peters and Frederick Peacock, Loweetofti

merchant.
William Swaine, Stevenage, Hertfordshire, miller.
Ann, Foster, ErnsLain, Oxfordshire, groper.
Thomas Fitt Hall., Brixton, innkeeper.
Thomas 1./almond Evans, late of Bush•lane, Com*"

street. merchant.
Frederick James Howard, Chatham. grocer.
George Nurse, Red Liou-)ard, Old Caventlish.street'
livery stable keeper.
George Gallienne, Goswell-street, cutler.
Henry Lowe, Birmingham, fruiterer.

(From the L 0144011. Gazette of FridaY).
Joseph Cooper, Friar-greet, Mlaokfrianero••••
Gray'slun.lane, baker.
E. Zulaer, Upper North-place, Gray'a-inecoad, oer-
chant.
Thorns's Suthers, Halifax, reed maker.
Tlenuas lire Purnell, Sheffield, draprr•
Arthur McDonald, Kingston-npuil-Hull, iiinkeerer•
Carl Breinlont. Liverpool, licensed victualler.
William Monk, Padil.atu, Lancashire, manufacturer,.
Detnestrins Pietro Demetriadi, Blanchester, end `4.11.
atantinople, merchant.

lles
Machinery multiplies production ; r'1"" ' „ori
nor food ; hut &mauls:es-in-6M ate nal always impflort°
for hoSanee %hen good ten •se obtsinsbie—lf
wholesome too—Dr. Haunted Job noon liked well ;
quentan. " flargray'.", the &ye of Cherie
such ; and Islas people meek such now. !oho Chinaman
" English merehatit like good took, sod no b, made all his U:
D'o.l looking, for he au not .low inending
him to dbefutas his brown Savourless autumn
by eolourin all qualities alike, he doubles els ww__,';
horse:tante profits. nommen end
Vtalitto bet .rt appearance, and therefore
6""ke "Pring non^. that have on needSo he dt•iftu.".
powdered colour : --Ude every Baptista too drinker eilhog•
reel ion , as this tan is &rape food
eldw.
onty.7rkets, thr Qs* II ornitnea'• non boom ,
14 .4 %puts In this Locauss eee advertiestueut l'h° 4I'Y
Pat.".

ID orsrtsbirt.

DORSET GENERAL QUA ItTElt SESSION.

The business of these 14-s.iiiins coininetieeil on Toas-
t's,' last, the Key. 11. F. Vest's'au in the their. There
were sko present—
The Esrl c.f Shaftesbury.
Wynfotil.
s'r I II Is.thbrwlge, Bart
lbst..W. H. B. Portman

Rev. .1. T. nimbi.
E. 11. Smith, E.. 1.
Ilarwood S. Yraturin, Esq.
C. J. Parke,
James Esq.
T. I). llayly. Esq.
Iter. 11. T. Bower.
T. H. Hanlinin. Esq.
l'earkee Gunilry,
Pick.iril Cambridge, Eel
J. E. Bridge, Earl.
C. W.
Rev. C. W. thumb:um
It. li. Iluiigliui,, C.. 1.
C. S. I, Ilalet,
ldibert
Herbert William,.
tkorge slmisel. FAA.
Esq.
'William Es.i.
Montague Williams, Eqq.
rum 'IMITI NO JUNTICIA.
31r.ltritatar WILLI AMM broo‘lit up the report, at

M
11. I:. Stud, Ni.P.
Err Seymer,
Col. W. I. Frer.tun, M.P.
Hobert (;,.r.ton. Esq.
Jim Floyrr. EA:I,
I:, v. Carr .1. 1:Iyil.
.lokt n,
Ati4u•tu,Fmt.r. E,
!v, .4. II An+ten.
.‘tr,Ntit•
11. N. Ili.1:11et"ii.
0, W. Farrer.
J. T. Ballot, E. I.

" The prison wan inspected ir every part, and foinid
ci„.aa and in good or hr. NO COW Illitillt Wao 111:11le by
ant the prisoners, nor wes there any one under pu-
nishment for mi., luct. The health of the prisonera
h,,,b,0k generally good during the pest quarter. Doe
i.p...ner was in solitary contineinent, being part of his
sentence. Henry Buslirisl, a priaenter under
f,.r aesault, has again apidieil for the interference of the
Veiting.ltiaticea, in order that the minainder of hi. sell-
hrice may he remitted. Ile sentenced to 12 months'
:urn...morn' and a fine £lO, and to be further impri-
„awl until such fine be fetid. Ile hu undergone the 12
month,' imprisonment and also three months beyond
that time. He wishes for a reuii.ion of the fine, he
baring no chance of paying it. The Visiting Justices
request the aanction of the Court under the peculiar cir-
cualatances of the cue. The accounts of the present,
111,1 the you:hereof the put quarter, were examined and
fiend correct. Contracts for the various articlet
supplied to the gaol were taken at the following prices :
—Meat. lid. per lb. ; straw, 40s. per ton; cheese, Ms.
per cwt. ; oatmeal, Dis. per cwt. ; rice (Patna), llia, per
rat. ; soda, per cwt. ; lump, 34%. per cwt. ; salt, 2s.
ler cwt. ; black pepper. Is. 2.1. per lb. ; starch, CA. per
In. The SUM of 44. 1.1. wau found in the charity-box.
The number of irl*oner ill custoily : Males, IMI;
foules. 15—total. 111. In the Infirmary : Males, 4 ;
(reales I—total. 5. For trial at Sessions : Male*, 15 ;
Nivales, 2; or bail—males, 13 ; females 3—total for
trial, 33. For trial at the next .tssizes : Males. ;
f,..eles, 2 ; on bail —males. 3 ; females, 2—total, 10.
Number of prisoners committed during the quarter, Ira ;
suite querter at year, ISO —decrease this quarter, 21.
poly average of prisoners in custody this quarter :
Males, 72; females, 13—total, 85 ; 0111110 quarter heat
year —males. 91 felnsles. 15 : total hut quarter. 109—
d-crease this qoarter. 24. Ite-counnitinents this quarter,
aft; eine quarter last year, 92--.lecrease this quarter,
3. PUlll4OllCIlt* this quarter on daily average of 89, 7;
Mile quarter last year on average of 109. 23—decrease
One quarter, 18. Disbursements this quarter,
Died 12s. ILl.; same qu dier laat year, £772 10a. M.—
decrease this quarter, CllO 17s. 7,1. Average price of
wheat thin quarter. £IO the ; same quarter last year,
£l3 In. &I.—decrease this quarter, £2 Ihs. Mainte-
nance per head this quarter, 3.i. ; salaries, 3r. 10.1. ;
warming and lighting. Is. 4d. ; clothing, Is. M.—total,
th. 41. Price of bread this quarter, at per lb., lid. ;
'tune quarter last year, 11. d—decrease this quarter, id.
Two boys have been removed to the Milborne Peniten-
tiary Reformatory S.:hool this quarter. at the expiration
of their terms of iniprisonieent. The conduct of the
officers in their several departments has been good
during the quarter. our Committee, in conclusion,
request the attention and sanction of the Court to the
oar of Henry Hellier, of which notice was given at the
hut Seuions."

The report having been received and adopted, Mr. H.
Williams brought the case of Henry Bushrod before the
t..urt. It appeared that Henry flushrod had been
emvicted of an assault and sentenced to a term of on-
pH-on:Dent, and to pay a fine of CIO ; to be imprisoned
soil such fine was paid. He had been in gaol fifteen
InoutthP, and was stated to have no means whatever of
paying the fine. The prisoner was a very disreputable
character, having been imprisoned altogether for a
series of offence, during a period of five years iuml three
months in the course of fifteen yore. That circum-
stance, Mr. Williams sick-I, would certainly render the
Sian an unfit object for the mercy of the Court as such ;
still, seeing that he hail no beaus of paying the tine, lie
thought it would he desirable to release Min from :ns.
body. Mr. Williams, therefore, •ed that the Secre-
tary of State be recommended to intercede for the libera-
tion.of
.the prisoner. _

The CHAIRMAN having stated that the Court having
no power to alter the sentenc•i passed upon the man, the
only course nes to apply to the Secretary of State,
stating that it was expedient in the opinion of the
Court to remit the one. The Chairman then put the
motion, which waa carried on a decision by 13 to G.
Mr. Wit.i.t.tum then propowil that Henry Hellier, an
officer in the gaol, aged 74. who had served the county
faithfully during a period of 2.1 years, should be allowed
to retire on a pen.ion of k 2.1 M., according to the
terms of the stAtute, to be granted to him on account of
age and infirmity.
The Court were of opinion that Horner was entitled
I the retiring pension, and it wig awarded to him
_ _

Mr. Gown-iv referred to the eue of one Melville.
sentence I liy the Sturininster bench of magistrates to •
tem of imprisonment, and in reipeet of whom lie
thought the Court ouislit to take some steps to procure
his lihetation.
A lengthened conversation comet'. in the course of
which • letter was read from the Secretary of State, in
answer to an application inkele to him by a solicitor on
behalf of the prisoner. that he (the Secretary of State)
could not interfere with the sentence at preseat. The
state.l that the term " at iire.ent" wiut an
nesogn.l one. and, in his opinion, very significant ; for it
his firm impression that upon the receipt of a second
thetatorial the Secretary of State would grant the pri-
soner's release.

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Lord 1% Tsroao was appointed one of the Visiting
Justices of the Gaol and House of Correction in the
roou of Sheffield Serrell, Esq., deceased.

BRIDGE AD BUILIII:IG COMMITTEE.

Mr. C. J. PARIEC read the report of this committee,
as follow. :

"'Vie Sorvi•vor's list of hills, due for work done and
ixamM.ll by him, wall passed, and amounted as under :
Brldae4, Et.l7 A. 61. ; .01, 412 I Iris. ; Hall,
1:3,1 Ha 41.; House, 1.3 liss. 71.; and on amount for
iiindry works ordered he the Court and in progreas,
016 194. 7d. ; total, E6OO. The Bridge and Building
colikielitte require the shove sum for the ensuing
piartcr. The surveyor reports that he has received
1.1. m fur a new bridge, proposed to be built in the
wish of Fifehead Neville, and to be made a county
bridge."

Some discuesion amse as to the new bridge proposed in
the report to he &instructed ; and it did not appear to
the Court to be dudralile that that recommendation of
the Committee should he carried out. The portion of
the report, therefore, relating to the new bridge was
erased, awl with that emendation the report was ordered
tot), received and adopted.

couxry LUNATIC VaLUIL
Mr. FLOTia real the Quarterly Itsport of the Asylum.
11, un.ler :

"The usual inspection of the aayluin was made, and
every patient seen by the Visitors and the ordinary
badness was gone through. The expenditure of the
Past quarter mu found to have been £l,Oll 4.. rid., and
tlie income, by a rate, if ordered, at 7a. per week, to he
lA, leaving a stun to be paid from the Con•
iingent Fund of £5 4*. 741. The rate wu ordered to he
per week. The following bills were ordered to be
Paid from the county stock :—Dr. Finch, extra
charge ter patients, £964 iii. ; E.lward Mondey, for
timber, 27 15.. 44. ; JlllllOll Northover, mason,
Is. tud. ; Darden, plumber, Eh 7s. 114. ; rates and
taxes, r/ his. Sul,; Pieroe Arthur, plan for diveriain of
r^arl, £5 sa. The comment of the Truatees of the Cerne
Tarnpike has been obtained to a divers' of the turn•
pike•road near Forston at an estimated expense if
1:710 144., by which nearly 17 acre. of land, pmposed to
lie purchaaed of Mr. 1/evenish, will be available for the
purposes of the aaylutit within the boundary of the
f"roPike•med. The injury to the public in the use of
the road will he hardly •pprecialde, the steepes and gra.
!lietit of the road, u &Item', being 1 in 30, and the
"'mut of .11.1.1 tee barely 21 yards. It is understood
that all expoen,m whatever, relating to the diversion of
the road, be di.cliar•eil by the county. 'The treasurer
h." received the iiilnifle.mt donation of £l,OOO from
Kr Richard Plumptre Glyn, Bart., for the County

Mr. Gomm!' observed that lie had understood Mr.
no)er to say that the diversion of the road would cost
Mout £l5O, whereas he now found from the report that
11 would cod 1.790.
,Sir. Fioexis replied that he did not think he could
said £l5O for he had a distinct recollect of
ststiog hefore the Court that the amount would be
shoot £5OO. Mr. Floyer added that he thought that
the odimate of £7t k) might lie somewhat reduced by
sanisis means, to which be alluded, so that that auto
slight be taken as the outside expenditure on this heed.
Me then went on to explain that the Visitors had post-
-1"Ik'l advertising for plans and estimate,' for the enlarge-
li'ioit of the asylum until they had the consent of the
Ln.pike Trusties to the diversion of the nool —that
enosent was not flnally obtained until the 18th of
liscrober last; therefore. the solvertisements for plans,
44.. had not yet appeared. The coininittee ha I now.
Lowever, obtained that diversion of (lie road which
give them nearly 17 acres belonging to Mr.
hevenish, and additional room for the buildings and
Isnis iimnediatily adjoining the asylum ; and it was
.frtainly the opinion of the Visitors that if they re-
liedFordon Asylum, as was at present anticipated,
extension of the sits would not be learly ',archaised
r the county at an expense of something like 001).
4411 not for him to state then what the Visitors for
!IR. next year would do. the ',resent committee being in
!!ct at that moment fluscfscs officii. What was now
h *ever tc he immediately done was the advertising for
Ll* Plans and estimates for the extension of the building.
having said thus much with regard to the
Yloterly Report, he would read the Annual Report, as
rciaired by the 62nd auction of the Act of Parlia-
Went

County Lunatic) Aryloin at l'oraton has, during
"I put year, been conducted under the care of the
"l'elerintendent, J. G. Brue% Esq., to the entire us-
of the Committee of Vinton. The health of
h", Patient+ has been very good thromOolat the whole
rtod —only ten deaths have takeseidace •' and when
asylum liaa been inspectml—as it haa been once in
'Very two month., in compliance with the directions of
;he Act, and at other times—the patients have been
44,11 d, almost without exception. in a tranquil and
"leril stale. The saperintenflent reports favourably
,
the *unlace, and attention al the ollicon and servants
'4 the establithum iii, and the Committee, ea far as their
obeervation szwods, concur in the approbation ext./wined
,to them by the superintendent. The meoniniodation
I". patients maim, as for a leas time past, quiet issufli-

oient for the reptirumesits of the county, the number of
patients at Fn.licrnm t jhuii,i being 116,—.111 in:ilea awl
:14 females 1 criminal lunatic. 'lle number
in the A..ylum, at the chum of the year. bein4 72 inalca
and 89 feisiale*; total, liii; giving • groaa total of
228 pauper lunatic. now ioniotailool from public lantr‘ca
in thia county. The nuinlaerr at the beginning of the
year were :

At Fieherton
At the County .le.t. 22 34 56
71 116 519

113 192 215

--.
At the Koala flair at Fisherton :19 t;oi
At thu County Amylulu 72 89 161

102 125 227
The want of a Chapel, or proper pia& for the eeleltra-
tiou of Divine Worshiii, continues to be niu-h felt ; the
room which heretofore has been used for that purpose
being inadequate for the proper acanummlation of the
servants, and the patient* who are able to be present."
Mr. Gottit,m said lie really did not know what the
were g gto do. lie hadc leave at the I.olt
St,Ai 4444 X to /011ZeAt to hit t;Cellellt friend, Mr. Floyer,
and to the other menaleerx of the Committee, that they
bail nut really made up their minds as tO what they
wanted. They talked of issaing advertisements for
plans and eettitiatee, but what it was they were going to
do they really could not say. lire own opinion Was
that they should 'flake up their minds, in the first place,
as to whether they meant to adopt that exeelletit ar-
rangement of making an illelpeilAiVe asylum. lie had
asked lais excellent friend whether it would not be
advisable for the Cotunitttee to just go and visit some of
the new Initiate axylunis which hail been recently built
men, that inexpensive plait to which he referred. Why
should they involve themselves in a greater expense for
their aaylutia than was incurred for similar ACCOIIIIIIOII6-
tion at Glouceeter, in Devoneltire, and elsewhere.
Why iliould they not, lie repeated, go and see those
places and determine upon that which appeared to be,
on a personal inspection, the most suitable for them?
lie would inform them that at Exeter accommodation
was found for 100 katienta at the rate of EAU per head.
Mr. Templer had said, when he (Mr. Gordon) alluded to
this mutter on a former occasion, that he did trot think
that the buildings at Exeter were applicable to any of
our arrangements here, hut lie did not enter iuto any ex-
planation why simian what manner they were inapplicable.
Then, bit taltauce.der, the necessary ACCOIOIII.I,ItIOII was
procured at a very auoderate rate, though riot uuite no
low as at Exeter. At Gloucester they have built anew
residence for the mu; erintentlent on the other side of
the road, having found it desirable to convert the apart-
nienta of the superintendent into additional compart-
ments mill dormitories for the Mastic, and for this ;tur-
rets., es lie had said, they purchased land in the other
side of the road. They had tins done that by prefer-
ence in Gloucester which we were going to conrideraltle
expense to avoid. Let the Committee make up their
isinus as to what they meant hi do, what they wished
to do, and let the advertitaeinenta be founded upon
what they clearly comprehend as being necessary and
prier to be done. lie was speaking to a chairman of a
110101 of magistrates in the north of England as to the
steps that had been taken by the inagiatrates there
when about to erect a lunatic asylum home few years
*go, lie answered him saying that, before they began
to build, three or four of them went to visit halfm-
dozen of the best uylume in the country, and thus put
themsela es in leemessien of a large amount of knowledge
founded uptni actual observation in respect of a istatter
of great conselueitce, and in which these gentlemen
were necessarily much concerned. Now, lie would
submit that that the new Visiting Committee of the
Forston Asyliain were really not an • position to take
that step which Mr. Floyer twined to think wan the
buttineous immediately at hand, namely to put forth
advertisementa fur plans and estimates. They could not
du so with their imperfect information, nod they ought
certainly to be More correctly informed as to the nature
of the proper additions to the asylum before they pro-
ceeded to advertising, And bringing in a visa competition
of architects.

Sir H. LETHBRIDuIt expressed his surprise that,
although the want of a chapel was referred to in the
asylum report as being no pressingly felt, yet no sort of
provuoun was made or suQrested by Mr. Fluyer about

Mr. FRAMPTON asked Mr. Gordon whether the gentle-
men in the North, after having visited the asylums
spoken of, had thought proper to adopt the cheap plan.
Mr. Gomeis explained that this was sonic few
years ago—before the great improvements in the way of
building cheaply and efficaciously were effected.
Mr. FLOT ER, in reply to the observations which had
fallen from Mr. Gordon, said that with regard to the
Visitors not having made up their minds, he might be
allowed to say that they certainly did differ with regard
to their duties upon that point. The first point his
friend alluded to, was the character of the building
with regard to the cost to the county. Now, the Visit-
ing Justices, if they had not made up their minds upon
anything else, had certainly fully made up their minds
upon that point. Ile found these words on the minutes
of the 4th March, :—" Also that Mr. Donaldson
be instructed that the committee have no desire to incur
expensea for the sake of display or ornament, but
simply to provide suitable and convenient accuiumoda-
tion for the patients, for which purpose they wished to
have a good and useful building at the lowest cost."
Now, certainly, it would be seen that the committee
have made up their minds about that. Then Aith
regard to turning the road, his friend said that at Glen- !
cester they had taken the superinteuillent to the other ,
ale of the road. Different superintendents entertained
different views of their duties; and, from &conversation
he load hail with Mr. Syines, superintendent of Euratom '
he did not think that gentleman would like to be put on
the other aide of the road. In the county of Norfolk
he found they had diverted their road, and it must have
been .lone at • great expense, in much the seine manner
a. the Visitors now propiewil to do it. As to the Visitors
being requited to make up their minds with respect to
any definite plan, lie certainly did not consider it was
their duty, nor was it desirable, to point out to an
arel.itect the specifiz and particular manner in which
these additions were to be made ; they thought their
duty would be best discharged by inviting a large com-
petition, and obtaining a number of plans for tl.ese
alterations, from which the Committee would be in a
position to select a good and approved plan. With
regard to visiting other a.ylums, lie was certainly of
opinion that it was better to look at a variety of plane
furnished by architects, and miike a selection of one or
the other of them. When that had been done, further
, information might be obtained from other counties
where similar buildings had been erected—correspond-
ing with the 1411 which they had selected from amongst
the various competitors. Such was the mode of pre-
needing which the Visitors had proposed to adopt, and
if the Court were pleased to re-appoint the Visitors as
. they stood last year, he believed those gentleman would,
for the most part, be prepared to act upon it. Of course
I the Visitors were anxious to act in compliance with the
I wishes of the Court, but if tl.e Court did not express
any wish to the contrary, their intention was, haring
! obtained the very important proposed addition to the
site for the new building* of the wiyium, to issue notices
for I.IEIII mid eidiniates forthwith. The matter would
then come before the Court at the next Sessions, with •
good pl..n for increasing the asylum, and the business
would be proceeded with without further delay. He
perceived that certain ineinbers smiled, and 'unifier
hiies dad been so often before expressed and doomed to
o
dieappointment, that pollee* lie had no right to give
exiiression to them then. (Laughter.) Still. they hail
' really mode some pregress, and that progress would be
satisfactory if the con aaaa ittee would do what lie had
sketched out, and which lie trusted would be satisfactory
to the Court. With respect to the chapel, that would
no doubt fonn an important point of consideration with
the Visiting Justices ; it would be taken as part of the
whole and thus dealt with.
Mr. Commie suggested that it would he better to
select four or five architects of know reputation, includ-
ing one or two who had introduced the inexpensive
system, than to throw the nompetition open to the oils
, of architects, in which Case experience told them the beet
men would nit compete.
! Sir J. H. LETHBRIDGE said that lie considered iii
reflection against the Bench that no progress whatever
had been maile in this important question of the Lumitie
Asyluin, and the Court stood ridiculed before the whole
country by the spectacle they afforded of meeting
quarter after quarter and year after year, still doing
absolutely nothing ; and, indent, so far as he could see,
there was a wish on the part of the Bench to do
nothing.
The Earl of tioarrcsaisar said: When I last had the
honour of addressing the Court on this subject, there
seemed to be a great desire to have a new asylum
altogether, and that we should no longer think about
enlarging the building. There seems to be now a very
different view of the matter taken, and that we shall
revert to a state of things leading to no issue, but that
the debate will be further protracted for 'even years
longer. You purpose to issue advertisement.; for plans.
Now, I do concur with my I 1111 l "'unable friend, Mr.
Gordon, that unless you explain what it is you really
want you will be bewildered by the number and variety
of the plans with which you will find yourselves inun-
dated, BIBi will be unable to settle upon any one of
them. This it appears to me will undoubtedly be the
case wilco' you offer some sort of guide to these
persons by giving them some indication of the nature of
your requirements; without this it would be impoesible
to get plans suited to your purposes. What Mr.
Gordon mays about threwing open the competition
to a great body of architects is perfectly true.
It is well known that the 111011 i eminent archi-
tects will not enter into competition with the world at
large ; and you will therefore by your proposed plan
ebut out • very large busty of men who have great
experience in the construction and arrangement of
Asylums. The suggestion is also worthy of attention,
that the Visitor* should see with their own eyes what
has been done elsewhere in thee' new awl improved
buildings, when they would thus learn to undenitand
what it was that would be suitable and primer in their
own doe, and they would then be in a far better condi-
tion to judge what were the requircuiente iiiilispeusably
needed by them. Now, as to the diversion of the road,
I say with the visiting niagistrates, if you are to remain
on the present site, this road. is indispensably necessary
for the comfort and due ad ttttt netration of that asylum ;
because I cannot conceive anything worse than that the
house of the superintendent should be severed from the
buildings of the asylum. The interests of the superim
tendent and of the county are certainly here ante-
gunistic. It is most undoubtedly for the interests of the
wife and family of the superintendent that they should
be removed from the asylum ; but it is necessary
that at all hours of the night, and At every moment in
the day he should be within the most easy reach; if a
person has to be called up, then to go across the road
and rouse the superintendent, then fetch lumsi back, that
in my opinion IA an arrangement highly objectionable ;
therefore it is absolutely necessary that the superb:
tendent should be resideut upon the very spot, StICI
whatever expense it is necessary
pose. to entail for that pur-
be it 0100 or £l.OOO, or £1,001.1 it ought to be
incurred. But I do think you are not taking • wise or
an economical course by remaining at Foram?. . I
believe your proposed addition, to the present building
will be extremely expensive; I believe you will be
involved in difficulty and confusion of which you have
no conception. You are going to enlarge on a site as
unfit as any that could be had. De what you will, you
cannot make It otherwise then damp ; do what 'you
will you cannot make it otherwise than melan-
choly. The very opposite conditions to theme which
obtain at Yentas are essentially necessary for
the proper treatusent and mire of the un-
unfortunate inmates. I very much fear you will go on
I with these protracted diammions, while the demands

! upon you from the county are increasing from time to
I time, and are calling upon you loudly to render at onee
practically availalde increasing science, SW we know it to
he ii iii;lit to tear these questions of building and
management, and healthiness of locality, comietted
with lunatic asylums. I believe after you have enlargad
Forston you will not be able to retain the asylum in
that jamition, and you will be obliged to find a new site
and anew buililing after having incurred ;vent eNwlio.x
for the enlargement of the preilent establialiment.Auiul
I .b. not think it will be sanctioned by the public fuel•
iii for more than 4 or II years after it is completed.
Public tniibion will wholly condemn it, and for these
reasons I to believe it would be for the interests of the
cull y to remove the asylum altogethir ; it would be
more economical, and infinitely More 61cAirable, in a
moral Anil physical senile, for the welfare of the pour
patients committed to your care.
The Rev. Calm J. lave observed that Mr. Fleyer
had not yet stated what sum of Motley wmilil have to
be expended in these Addition% to the iiresent asylum,
alit drew attention to the point that they would not
only require land for the occupation, but the alliti•elliellt
of the loktlelittl. He Alm) remarked that, at Bethlehem
Noma 11 rclikolls hot ructioui. au.l attending chapel Was
one of the most important features in the recovery of
patients iii that slid this WAS a strong
reason ally they sl 1.1 urge the committee to get the
necessary acconinealation provided as Koon AM possible.
Sir J. H. Ls riiHtilleie hoped that the observations
of the Earl of Shaftesbury WoUld receive the attention
they were entitled to froin the Court. Here his lord-
ship hail shown them that the Cause of humanity, as well
aa their I ten interest, were concerned in having a new
asylum altogether. Before lie left the room lie would
propose that they removed to a fresh site.
Mr. Ft.ov en said he was sorry to intrude upon the
Court, hut the question had now taken a new turn, and
hail been enlarged. He then explained the steps which
haul been taken by the N'isitors to obtain • new site, in
which they hail failed, the Ecclesiastical Commissioners
refusing to consent to the sale of the only olle that was
considered desirable. Ile likewise commented on the
healthineas of the situation, as was proved by the health
of the patients, ever since the asylum had been there,
And this in the face of the crowded state of the coda-
blialiment. Then as to water ; whatever the season, they
never failed to have an abundant supply of excellent
water. Water was • most essential thing in an asylum,
in quantity for cleanliness, and in quality for drinking.
He believed that sickness, such as cholera, &c., was con-
nected with bad water more than any one thing. Lord
Shaftesbury thought they should make up their minds
as to the kind of buildings they should have, but that
was a difficult question. The report of the Commission-
ers did not show that they had nude up their minds to
recomiiiend any particular mode in which patients should
be dealt with ; and if they did not know, it must be
difficult for the Visitors to decide. When, however,
plans were sent in, they could select that which was
considered best, and therefore they thought that the
recommendation of inviting architects to couipete should
be adhered to.

Mr. GilltDON observed that the best architects would
not send in plans, as 1..0ril Shaftesbury hail said.
Mr. Fi.ovvit replied, that instead of limiting the
competition, the modern plan was to enlarge it. Fur
the Goveniinent Aims plans had been sent in from all
parts of Europe.
Sir J. 11. LeTlilmnhmew said lie had paid great atten-
tion to the remarks of Mr. Floyer, lint there was one
w nil used by the noble lord which lie had not
and that was "cheerfulness." Neither Mr. Floyer,
wir any one else, would satisfy hitu that an asylum at
the bottom of a valley, and einitigicus to water, could be
free from fogs. There was another difficulty, that
being surrounded with hills, they had less tun, and con-
sequently leas daylight, which must make the place more
melancholy. .

Mr. Fun Iral replied that the asylum was open to the
south, the hills being east and west, therefore they had
the full benefit of the sun during the day. But without
going further into the question, they could not say that
Foriton was an undesirable cite; and the neighbout hood
MU exceedingly well adapted for the exercise of the
patients.
Mr. Keit Savistit said he did not understand that
the Cominitte were prevented, by any resolution, from
doing what Lord Slisftesbury and Mr. Gsrdoil had re-
commended—that instead of throwing it open, they
should select • certain number of architects to send in
plans. He did not avee that the committee should Net
down on what system the plans should be prepared ; but
he believed, that by throwing it open to general COIIII,C.
talon, the best architects who had built asylums would
not send in.

The CHAIRMAN, in putting the motion for the adop-
tion of the report, that of Sir J. If. Lethbridge having
nu seconder, said lie did not regret having hesitated
when the reports were placed in his hands by the excel-
lent chairman of the Visitors, because by no doing they
had been fortunate enough to elicit opinions from some
experienced magistrates, more particularly of two who
were t7mninissioners in Lunacy. One lion. baronet said
lie had been piesent for the long period of seven years
during which they hail had nothing but propositions for
providing the necessary accoinmodation for the
lunatics of the county. Now he (the Chairman)
laboured under the misfortune to have been present for
ten years. and therefore at .10quarter sessions—at which
they had resole.' and reresolved, so that without sitting
down to inquire, he could not say what was the legal
effect of the resolutions th,t lii been He had
no distinct recollection if their being rescinded, and
threw out for the consideration of the Court whether it
would not be expedient to appoint a lIIIIAII committee
to go into the matter, so that they might rescind any
resolutions that were inconabitent Or contradictory.
After enlarging upon the various potato brought before
the court, during the diacussion, the learned chairman
said • hope was expressed that at the next sessions • sub-
stratial plan would he hail before them. It MAR said
" Hope deferred maketh the heart sick." Therefore
lie thought he must gee the court in a painful state of
indisposition. (Laughter.) He trusted, however, to
see them perfectly recovered at the next sessions, and
that this lung discussed question would be then set at
rest.

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The motion for the adoption of the report was unani-
mously affirmed.
Mr FLor LK then proposed the re-appointment of the
Visitors, and observed that Mr. Porcher wished bis
name to be lted, as impaired health would oblige him
to relinquish • portion of his public duties.
The Visitors were reappointed, and it was stated that
Mr. Porcher, as Deputy Uhairusan, would be an ex officio
member.

Mr. H. WILLIAIIB said Lord Shaftesbury Mid thrown
out a very useful hint to the Visitors, and they would
be glad if his Lordship would naiue six architects from
whom they should ask for plans.
The Earl of suArrtseemy expressed his disclination
to take upon himself to du so, observing that everybody
was shooting at him, and if he stood up much longer, be
should not escape with his life. (Laughter.)