The Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1860-07-12 00:00:00

Mr. EDWARDS observed that Mr. Shaw had been
shamefully abused. He agreed with most of his remarks,
and the affair was, in his opinion, a most diabolical plot.
(Uproar.)
Mr. SMITH —Why, that's perfectly clear ; and he went
on to say he would teach-Mr. Ward a little law, when—
The CHAIRMAN cried In a stentorian yak*, "Sit down,
Mr. Smith."
Several members followed the chairman's example,
and produced a most horrible uproar.
Mr. Smith, however, would have
.hii say, and he
talked away in spite of all remanstrances ; bat his re-
marks were quite. unintelligible. The chairman con-
tinued to cry, " Sit down, Mr. Smith ;" the other
members shrieked " Order ;" but order was not produced
until Mr. Clarke called for Mr. Smith's removal unless
he sat down. Mr. Smith at length gave way, and—
Mr. M'CoNNAL said that he didatot blime Mr. Shaw
for defending himself, but it was a pity, he thought,
that that gentleman had not remained and heard what
they had to say in answer to the charges made by him.
He denied that there was any conspiracy got up by the
Everton guardians, as such. It was perfectly untrue as
far as he was concerned, that any person was told three
weeks ago to look into the newspapers ; and he de-
nounced it as a falsehood. He •had not believed that
Mr. Shaw was guilty of the charge; bat, whether he
was or was not, he felt it was not for him to say.
Mr. HAIGH also denied that it was a conspiracy,
when—

Mr. EDWARDS remarked : "If the cap fits, wear it."
Mr. ROBERTb treated the insinuations of Mr. Shaw,
as regards himself, with perfect indifference. It had so
happened that he had not attended the Workhouse the
week before. He was one of the parties who had heard
the woman's statement; but he knew nothing directly
or indirectly respecting her. Mr. Isaac Edwards was
also present in the Workhouse, and heard what the
woman said ; and he certainly must say that that
gentleman's opinion on the matter had changed consi-
derably since then. Personally, he had held as chari-
table a view of the case as possible, and thought it
wrong on the part of the board to act as they had done.
They should not have received any statements in the
absence of Mr. Shaw.
Mr. SMITH—They had no right to hear it at all.
Mr. ROBERTS went on to say that during the whole
conversation on Wednesday week, a good feeling existed
in the minds of the members of the board, as bad been
clearly shown by the fact that Mr. Shaw was requested
to attend. It was alf very fine for that gentleman to
talk as he had done. He was as good an Englishman
as any member present. A Welshman, indeed ! He
was a Briton ! A ratepayer himself, he came there to
represent the ratepayers of Everton ; and, thank God, he
was independent in his circumstances. (Applause.)
Mr. WEBSTER remarked that he was present on the
occasion referred to by Mr. _Roberts, when Mr. Edwards
expressed an opinion that Mr. Shaw was innocent of
the charge brought against him. (Hear, hear.)
Mr. SMITH, referring to the charge which he had
brought against Mr. Gough some time since, remarked
that Mr. Shaw had certainly given him some help—
(hear, hear, and laughter)--and had thus incurred the
displeasure of the board. In the course of a rambling
speech, Mr. Smith inquired, which of them was virtuous ?
Why not get a case up against him ? (Great laughter.)
It was clear a conspiracy had been formed, and if legal
proceedings were taken, depend upon it the chairman,*
Mr. Ward, and three or four guardians would be sent to
gaol. (Laughter and uproar.) With regard to the re-
porter of the Mererery, Mr. Baker, that gentlemen had
attended the meetings only once or twice, and at all
times he was invited. (Great uproar.) The speaker
went on to say that Mr. Baker was- there when one
hundred and forty-two gallons of ale were consumed,
which ho did not mention by authority. (Renewed
laughter and uproar.) He had not done with them yet.
(Uproar.) At this stage-of the proceedings Mr, Smith
got up, and, having stamped his feet on the floor once or
twice, and exercised his arms in a very scientific manner,
calculated to inspire confidence in his pugilistic skill in
his brother guardians, he walked towards a corner, took
up his hat and stick, and left the room in a way which
inspired the members of the press with an awful idea of
the dignity of a guardian.
A member enquired if there was any motion before
the board

The CHAIRMAN answered in the 'negative, and the
mat ter dropped.
After some conversation,
It was moved by Mr. Piling and seconded by Mr.
Webster, that Elizabeth Wilkinson be dismissed from
the Workhouse.
An amendment to the effect, that means be taken to
get her into a penitentiary, was • moved by Mr. Haigh,
and seconded by Mr. Roberts.

- Mr. EDWA.RDS supported the•first resolution, on the
ground that she had money, and was possessed of a
bank-book.
Thus ended the beginning of this unpleasant affair.
The amendment was put to the vote, and carried.
THE PXERTON GrA4tDIANS.
Some conversation occurred relative to the -supposed
illegality of the late Evertoa- election, and it was
moved by Mr. Clarke and seconded by Mr. Wensley,
" that the clerk be instructed to address the Poor-law
Board, that the guardians generally have seriously con-
sidered the communication from the Poor-law Board
having reference to the late election of guardians for the
Everton district, and they cannot but express a hope
that the Poor-law Board will reconsider the case before
putting the ratepayers to the expense of another election.
The guardians are strengthened in their application by
the fact that the majority of the lowest of the suc-
cessful candidates over the highest of the non-elected
being so unusually large, viz. 141 votes."
This brought the business of the meeting to a ter-
mination.

DEATH OF THE COUNTESS OP WICKLOW.—We have
to record the demise of the Countess of Wicklow, who
died on Sunday, at the family residence in Cavendish-
square. The late countess was only daughter of the late
Marquis of Abercorn. The families of the Marquis and
Marchioness of Abercorn, the Earl of Aberdeen, and
other persons of rank, are placed in mourning.
FATAL BLAST FURNACE EXPLOSION.—A terrific
explosion happened, on Sunday afternoon, at one of
the blast furnaces of Eilston, near 'Wolverhampton,
belonging to the Messrs. Hickman. The exploSion
was occassioned by an escape amongst the molten
metal of cold water from the water chamber of
one of the tuyercs. The keeper of the fuTuaceslad
delayed "tapping until lheingtill bold uplii:'WAA
floNiing, out among
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buried bevath the burns
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were taken to the SenthsStiffclf;hare:ll-esOtal,:andAiit,d:
there during the night. The te4ei of she furnaces, b
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Mr. Straw—Then deal with these gentlemen (refer-
ring to the reporters).
After some further conversation of a similar character,

Mr. SHAW said that Mr. Ward could not say less
than that the conduct of the board was highly im-
proper. Dr. Lodge admitted that it was wrong.
The statement which appeared in the newspapers
was not the statement of the woman. When she
was asked the question, she said, "I have no charge to
make." Then words were put into the mouth of a
notorious and insane woman, simply for the purpose of
damaging his character. He denounced the conduct of
the board as unwarrantable. He referred to the
resolution of the board, and to that letter which the
board had sent him, on the Wednesday, saying that a
friend had told him it was worth £l,OOO. This letter
proved that the chairman; alias Baron Nicholson, was
one of the plotters. (Great uproar, during which the
chairman interfered, and loud cries of "Let.him go on "
were heard.) He read from the letter, " she has made
a statement, &c.," which proved in his opinion that Mr.
Ward knew a foul conspiracy had been got up against
him. (Continued uproar.) He could not attend
because he was busy, and he denied that a chair-
man had any right to request him to attend.
Another thing which proved that there was
a conspiracy formed, was the fact that a reporter from
the Aterrnry attended specially to report the case.
Further than that, the board'had assumed the right of a
Court of Assize. The pauper " was brought up for
examination," and he was "required to attend." He
would not stand to emirate a charge of such a nature.
Then " the case was brought up for investigation in the
usual course." He challenged the board to show that
it was a usual course, and he certainly had hoped that
Mr. Ward would apologise. There was some dastardly
coward connected with that board who *as, if not in
the room, within the gates of the Workhouse, and who
had sent a newspaper containing the report of the pro-
ceedings that day week to his wife; but he was happy
to say it had no bad effects. If the man were present,
he could only say that be was not worthy of the name
of an Englishman; perhaps he was worthy of the name
of a Welshman; and if he were present, let-him- stand
up and say so, and he would treat him there and then
as he deserved. Ile repeated that the whole affair
was a foul conspiracy ; and the statement ittodld last
only while the NVOTVIO 01 reni.; ea in the worithoti3e.
When she was dismissed, the whole of the circumstances
would come to light. Means were being taken to bring
the matter forward in such a manner as would satisfy
the right-thinking portion of the board, and the public
at large. With these remarks ho would leave the board
to the associations it had formed. Mr. Shaw left the
room amidst the greatest uproar, and cries of " Remain."
Order having beeti partially restored,
kr. Salmi Made some remarks *hich were perfectly
indistinct,