The Stourbridge Observer, Cradley Heath, Halesowen & District Chronicle.
Stourbridge, West Midlands, England, 1880-07-03 00:00:00

SATURDAY TEIY 3-, 1880..,-:7

IMPERIAL PARLIAMENT,

In the HOUSE OF LORDS, June 28, a number of Bills were
vanced a stage, but there was no discussion on any of
ttem.

ti,r4vd Silencer introduced and obtained a first reading for
s 0 Bills—one to deal with Educational Endowments in
,aeotland, and the other to modify bye-laws relating to
Aational Schools In this country.
Sydney brought down the, Queen's reply to the
r„ 'tress of their lordships' House for the omission of the
..;__ltr.tb schedule of the Education Code. The reply promises
`uat the matter shall be carefully considered by the Corn-
of Council.-
1,,.,0n the motion of Lord Nelson, certain returns relating to
—tendlY Societies were ordered; and their lordships ad-
°timed at twenty miamtes to six o'clock.
pjn.the HOUSE OF Commoss. notice was given by Baron de
„errieres that, on the Motion of Mr. Labouchere to rescind
te Resolution of the 22nd inst. relating to Mr. Bradlaugh,
bie
rßebould rnova, by way of amendment, that it would be
cz consistent with the dignity of the House, and better
seatll,l:ltPaci to meet the justice of the case, to declare the
to Mr. Bradlaugh vacant, to introduce a Bill extending
.;„ duly-elected members the option-of taking the oath or
—.`slog affirmation, and on such Bill becoming law to issue
new writ for Northampton.
U. Vivian also gave notice of an Amendment to Mr.
, bonchere's Resolution, to the effect that it was expedient
~„elleal the law requiring members to lake the oath or
_
ration
in
of allegiance, and to enact in lieTthereof that all
:,',Trabers should be required to make affirmation of
iance before taking their seats.
I, After several other questions had been answered, Mr.
Alt" Wyndham asked the First Lord of the Treasury
, ether the Government would bring in a Bill to remove all
55 as to the legal right of a member to claim to make a
etie,nia affirmation, instead of taking the Parliamentary oath
„"`uluolg his seat.
•kg-r- Gladstone said that he did not propose to bring in any
,7; of that description. When the questions were con-
-.acted, e would give notice on the subject.
..Pirther questions having been replied to Mr. Gladstone
d I may remind the House that on last Friday evening I
„...ilressed an opinion to the effect that we ought to proceed
_°onaider the case of Mr. Bradlaugh to-morrow. Since
i. 4% time, however, the Government have framed a resolu-
-7& Which they intend to submit to the House. As, how-
think it desirable that the House should have
_tiler more time to consider it, and as we cannot interfere
,switli the proceedings of private members on Wednesday, I
vroPose at the opening of business on Thursday to move
'That every person returned as a member to this House
Ivh,l2°,llaaY claim to be a person for the time being entitled
utW to make a solemn declaration or affirmation instead
g an oath shall henceforth, notwithstanding so much
the resolution of this House passed on the 22nd day of
tube.- as relates to an affirmation, be allowed without ques-
'l°n to make and subscribe a solemn affirmation in the form
_,lpreseribed by the Parliamentary Oaths Act of 1866, as
..4ntered by the Promissory Oaths Act of 1868, subject to any
&two LtY by statute; and, secondly, that this resolution be
13144 a Standing Order of the House."
(Rear. hear.) I may venture to add that in submitting this
its:solution I shall confine myself to what I may call a de-
reri.„Ption of the situation, and Shall not think it necessary to
the general argument, on which I have already had an
witortunity of stating my views. I hope, as the question
" be raised in the most convenient manner, the hon.
_ eraber for Northampton may not think it necessary to pro-
rd. with the motion of which he has given notice for to-
Qrrercr- (Hear hear.)
kr.
Labouchere said that, after the very satisfactory no-
whieh the right hon. gentleman had just given, he
uot proceed with the motion referred to.
Callan asked wheth.tr the motion, carried, would
Vt a retrospective effect.
Gladstone replied that it would as far as the case of
73radlaugh was concerned.
,ta answer to Mr. Parnell, Mr. Forster said the Govern-
Cat would not support his Relief of Distress (No. 2) Bill,
r&nlieving that it would do more harm than good. Gene-
king, he said, the news from Ireland was hopeful
the c4stress was decreasing, but it was still severe in some
17, a of Mayo ; and the Government were prepared to in-
clause in their Bill granting loans to Boards of
lat7dialls at 1 per cent. and to postpone payment of
Pareat for two years. They would also increase the
e,rY Pier Grant to £45,000. In answer to Mr. Power,
aiiajorster said he had heard of typhus fever in some
but not of famine fever.
In
Oft answer to Sir W. Lawson Mr. G. Duff said the Colonial
has abandoned the proposal for confede-
Ca oe had received official information of the news that the,
patt!,Clovernment
whereupon Sir W. Lawson gave notice that next week
deti,r ask whether the Government has reconsidered its
°U aa to the recall of Sir B. Frere.
rO,,A4lBWer to questions from Mr. Samuelson and Mr.
cafrarst, Mr. Mundella said there was no intention to
own the standard of elementary education.
e2ll_ e, rfouse went into Committee of Supply, and was en-
'-tieot Until a late hour on the Navy Estimates.
re„o4 the Vote for the Scientific Departments, Mr. Gorst
f,Zewed his complaint of the action of the Admiralty as
pstee for Greenwich Hospital, in taking the use of the
tegddings for the nominal rent of £lO9, and Mr. Childers
I°°,l-otl:le.a_ted his explanation that this was part of the bargain
td Lord Ramsay made an interesting speech on Naval
, tication, and th9..shortcomings of the training system on
ward the Britannta.
„ Ou the Dockyard Vote there was a long conversation, and
reduction of £130,000 was moved by Mr. A. O'Connor, who
Observed that it was all very well for members who repre-
;Fated dockyards to secure as much money as they could for
""eir constituents, but like the hon. gentleman who had just
!at down he and others represented constituencies who paid
Or dockyards. Ireland contributed one-tenth of this money,
'tau d obtained no direct benefit whatever by its distribution.
-4,llegged to move to reduce the vote by £130,000.
1•1•118 Committee divided, when the numbers were—Ayes,
; Noes, 219; Majority against the reduction, 202. The
vote was then agreed to.
On the vote to complete the sum of £71,160 for victualling
Yards at home and abroad,
lir. A. O'Connor complained that almost the entire vote
ePent in England, while in Ireland a very small sum
indeed was expended. •
ian reply to alr Gorst, 3fr. Shaw-Lefevre said that victual'
g was provided for at Ascension Island at small cost.
ere was also a dockyard and a hospital there.
bli.lbinr. Wen,. H. Smith remarked that he had found the este-
value. ts Ascension Island to be of the greatest possible
Mr. Brassey said the cost of Ascension was £2,900 a year.
The vote
casontilipeien
..A. vote t: teagtrheed to.
e sum of £63,445 for medical esta-
lalsbanents at home and abroad was also agreed to.
chti
et. vote of £21,402 for alarine Divisions, Lord R.
regard asked what the Admiralty intended to do with
to Mr Sha the Royal Marines.
One _ w-Lefevre said the question was a most importan
,Irov._ and the said
ought not to be hurried to a condu-
it with respect to it.
~_eCap.tain Price remarked that the service was sick of this
au stion being always deferred.
.r.,Af. ter a brief discussion, in which Mr. Puleston, Mr. Shaw-
Sir H. D. Wolff, Captain Price, Mr. Gladstone, and
Smith took part, the vote was agreed to.
Th_e following votes were also agreed to :—The stun of
to complete the vote for naval stores, for building
"at_ repairs, for fleet and coastguards, and the sum of
t°M,75O to complete the vote for machinery and ships built
uy contract.
0,1 the vote for £419,213 to complete the sum for new
°erks, building yards, and repairs, a discussion ensued, in
th
t course of which Mr. A. O'Connor moved the reduction of
he
vote by £112,000, the amount asked for the latter pur-
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nr,se, in order to test the sense of the Committee.
division being taken, the numbers were—For the
"'Llendinent, ; against, 174. Majority, 151.
rale vote was agreed to, as was the vote to complete the
"'LI', of £75,150 for medicines and medical stores.
The folloAing votes were also agreed to :—Sums to corn-
Qiete £9,250 for martial law, and £135,760 for miscellaneous
aervices.
ilia finished the votes for the effective service.
Borne other business was disposed of, and the House ad.
loarned at ten minutes to two o'clock.

,Tri the HOUSE OF LORDS, June 29, the Royal assent was
"Pen by commission to a number of Bills.
„Lord Beauchamp directed attention to the present defec-
n arrangements with regard to reporting, and proposed
;11,1-tain recommendations of the Select Committee, amongst
th'uch was the removal of the Woolsack to the bar, so that
f,..e Lord Chancellor would face the throne, and when ad-
irsing. the House would face the reporters. Other recom-
Ke_ndattons were the further projection of the gallery and
construction of a platform for reporters. below the

~After considerable discussion the proposal relating to
;te removal of the Woolsack was withdrawn, and the other
'wo accepted.
*-14). Granville, replying to riord Oranmore, said it was
the intention of the Government to introduce a measure
tinallovi substitution of service in case of all notices of
dzetraents, civil bill processes, ttc., in Ireland; but the
o:fernmellt would enforce the existing law, which they
-.ueved to be sufficient for the purpose.
0,110 eir lordships adjourned at twenty minutes to seven
clock. -

%PI the ROUSE OF COMMONS, at the Morning Sitting,
ate S• Northcote gave notice that he would move as an
e_endrnent to Mr. Gladstone's resolution on the Bradlaugh
cent e a cotuater-resolution, declaring that the House cannot
to a motion which virtually rescinds the resolution
tiaitio
22. sged byis Ii benches; it en June
and Mr. Go was much cheered from the
rst also gave notice that he
he co as' the Speaker, as a point of order, whether it would
ta• roPetent for Mr. Gladstone to move a resolution which
'ties
_ qUestion substantiaTly the same as that on which t
entrPali already pronounced judgment in the course of the
ent
thaillt trhePlY to 31i. A. M. Sullivan, Lord F. Cavendish said
publiahe 'weather reports issued early in the day were now
Issued al a free at certain stations, and as to the late report,
for a freet eight in the evening, he did not propose to ask
freeBUPPlementary vote to allow of that report being
tion ;vs Sullivan gave notice that he should call atten-
e subject on a future day.
hodtrePly to Mr. A. M'Arthur' Mr. Grant-Duff said that the
Moi'nt„„af Moirosi, it appeared, was buried the day after his
the then Was taken. but in January last the attention of
Moirosi had been removed for anatomical pur-
en Secretary of State was called to a statement that
toseua ad of
the he of course immediately telegraphed orders that
ead must be decently buried, and received soon after a
that •
The .d his orders had been carried into effect.
Dist - his
debate on Mr. Forster's Compensation for
Urbance Bill was resumed by
Mr, T
. ottenham, who opposed the measure in a forcible
contending that it would impoverish the landlords,
.4siz:mtattihoner,eanforde' injure the tenants, that it would stimulate
Mr raise a frightful crop of litigation.
hot •
e Roundell, on the other side, argued that the Bill was
leg Pen to the charge of confiscation, and that it was a
iniate development of the principles of the Land Act.
goorodi.ick pointed out that the Bill would deprive all
landlords of incentives to behave well by their land,
t„;l'id set class against class, and entirely revolutionise the
viations of landlord and tenant.
',lt O'Shea, speaking in favour of the Bill, as an Irish
aa,;lerd, thought that its importance had been exaggerated,
that there were ample securities against injustice.
tqr• W. 11. Smith dwelt on the injurious tendencies of the
contending that the principle it established for one
L'lticular kind of property could not be stopped there, but
t-7,lii:t be applied to other species of property. Would
plea of inability to pay' he asked, ' be held to
erilrke People in this country in the uninterrupted tenure
tO ,I nsr shops, offices, ex., which were as necessary
1 ell' living as a farmer's land? What was wanted in Ire-
-Z(1 was security for life and property, and to impress on the
th
P"oPle at their prosperity depended on their own lade-
eridence and self-reliance, not to encourage them to look
relief to exceptional legislation. The Bill, he showed, had
treadY lessened confidence in the security of property in Ire-
and ,• it had made land unsaleable; and it would be neces-
a4,,t7 in common justice to protect the landlord against fore-
. t "611 re and other penalties to which the non-receipt of his
era would expose him. Among other objections, he pointed
°fit that the proposed relief of the distress would be taken
aNtivt of one pocket alone—the landlord's—and that it would
;..:813 an expectation among tenants that something more
t. 3 coming which would relieve thorn altogether from the
arnent of rent. The condition of things in Ireland could
ke faced by a mere suspension of ordinary law, but must
,n_rOet in an entirely different way.
44,1itrest#Orney-General for Ireland replied that if there
feethlgicir insecurity in Ireland it was due rather
t'°_.S exarerated picturtet.d. ltaligy‘l9 t.g.uthe Bill
le ar from suspending payment of rent, it would
„ sve the landlord in posesssion of •the same remedies as
'verY other creditor and as landlords in this country,
!Ind it would simply prevent unreasonable landlords doing
which no good landlord would dream of doing
tale •
late Government, by its legislation, had admit-
am'eue existence of exceptional distress in Ireland,
1(1 that? surely, was not a time which landlords should
ZlT°Be IkT exercising their rights to clear di suFnuous
unants and consolidate their holdings. The Diu;he re.

peated, was only for a limited period and to extend over a
limited area, and the machinery would secure that it would
only be put into force when the landlord was wholly in the
wrong and the tenant wholly in the right.
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On the motion of Lord It. Churchill, the debate was ad-
journed until Monday next.

At the Evening Sitting, Mr. D. O'Conor was about to call
attention to the disfranchisement of Sligo, when the House
was counted out at ten minutes past nine o'clock.