The Daily Times.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1861-01-23 00:00:00

THE SELECT VESTRY.

•
The fortnightly meeting of this body was held yester-
day, at the Parish-office.s, the Rev. Rector Cantpbell in
the chair. The other members present were Messrs.
Cropper, Owen, Jones, Smith, Satchel', Atkins, Dear,
Denton, Bairstow, Hughes. Cook, 'Witty, Peek,
Collins, Scott, Williams Luff, and Syred.
The proceedings of the Workhouse Committee, which
have been already reported, were read and confirmed.
THE MASTERSHIP OF THE INDUSTRIAL SCHOOLS.
The main subject of discussion in the Sehooli Com-
mittee had relation to the arrangements which will be
li
necessary consequent on the retirement of Mr. Coates
s from the office of• superintendent of the schools. The
minutes say—" At a special meeting of the committee
on the 17th, after a lengthened discussion as to the
to steps rendered necessary by the resignation of Mr. and
zRMrs. Coates, it was moved by Mr. Scott, and seconded
by Mr. Turner, that a superintendent and a matron of
the e.stablishment be appointed, upon terms similar Grp,
those upon which Mr. and Mrs. Coates held office.' It
was moved as an amendment by Mr. Owen, seconded •by lir. .Batchell, That the Rev. Isaac Ilolmes
be called upon to discharge the whole of ' the
- duties named in the report of the 31st of
January 1855, as devolving upon the chaplain and head
master, together with such duties hitherto discharged
by Mr. Costes as this committee may hereafter deter-
mine ; and the remainder of the superintendent's dutie's
be entrusted to an officer who shall be designated the
hoagie steward, and who shall be removable by the
Select Vestry. On a division, the amendment was lost
by a majority of 6 to 7.
Mr. Satchel) then moved, and Mr. Luff seconded, that
the further consideration of the subject be deferred till
next meeting. This was also lost, and the original
motion carried by a majority of 7 to 5 ; and a' further
resolution was passed, " that the consideration of the
recommendation of Mr. Browne, her Majesty's Inspector
of Schools, to reduce the staff of teachers, be deferred
for the present."
Mr. BAIRSTOW moved the confirmation of the pro-
ceedings. lie believed the schools had been in opera-
tion something like sixteen years, and Mr. Coates had
- held the responsible situation of superintendent or mas-
ter of the establishment from the time of their opening
till novi.. It had unfortunately occurred -at various
periods of his service that dissaMsfaction had been
expressed; but upon the whole the institution had been
looked up to by the country as a kind of model. The
management had been most unsatisfactory to the coin-.
thlitele, • bat ho thought he inight•veryjustly say :with
regard to. Mr. Coates, that he had been at all tinier
exceedingly anxious to fulfil his duties with satisfactioti'
--to the Vestry. -In-the year- 18.537-he believed, a sib-
' committee was appointed to take into consideration the
then positions of the schools; and on the 31st of
January, 1855, after considering for about two years
they submitted a report in which they came to the con-
s' elusion, that "They felt bound to report that the con-
dition of the schools was most unsatisfactory.- There
41., ' was a divided authority, through disorganisation, and a
-r, great want. of general supervision ;" and the report
said that " the only effectual remedy, providing
' the staff Of officers be the same, was the trans-
ference of the chaplain of the workhouse to the
schools, and that he be invested with 'authority over
all the officers.; with residence at the schools for himself
as- and family." sow, the board of that day sent that
'‘ gentleman to the establishment without at all curtailing
• the duties laid down by the Poor-law Board for Mr.
Coates, the superintendent. No doubt, to some•exkt,
they had clashed ; and when they sent one officer to
• , supersede another in the performance of part of ' his
, duties, they could 'n'ot expect that success which they
1 might otherwise look for. But in what position did they
find the schools now ? They had not the grave corn-
er- plaints which they bad formerly, and the schools were
much more successful than they were some years ago, in
proof of which he need only refer to the number of
children who had been placed out in various situations
of the country; and who were doing credit to the
•-• pariah. This brought them to what they , were to
do now ; and in considering what was best •to be
uene, they had to take into consideiation, also,'
sr, the. report of her Majesty's Inspector of .Schools,
as to a reduction of the school establishment. 'They
were all aware that the salaries of the master, Mr.
liohues, and the teachers were paid by the Privy
Council; :and Mr. Browne, in one or two of his late
• visits, had' intimated that the schools being so much
• reduced in ilumbers, he must have a reduction of the
expenditure, The committee were very neatly balanced
, opinion,
noPinion) but they did by a majority say that in their
.., for the good and efficient management of, the
..; schools, it would be necessary
.6.toi)officer to take the duties to appoint a competent
of master, at a salary such ss
,Ji • had been enjoyed by Mr. Coates. He thought, at the
' same time, the committee would be in a position to give
Mr.-Holmes the greati,
• which ought to -bei-o Ins n r7tll-e' greatest part of the duties
E position and whirhe
was sent there to Perlorm. The committee, therefore,
It 3 thought they should advertise for. an officer competent
to discharge the duties of superintendent Mr Ba
•ir-
stow adde that there was not that cordial estiiniiticin
bf
Mr. Holmes on the part of her Majesty's Inspector,
which was desirable ; and be might turn round and say,

if Mr. Holmes was discharging :-some of the duties of
iirlierintenderit, the :gOternmeht could nOilonger pay his
salary. They should also have to appoint a hottst-
s,eward,.arid so increase the expense to the parish some-
thiit' like .£2OO a, year. As to the d'utie's of Matron,
they were all agreed ; they must have t matron, and, he'
--trusted. they would get one whO would -look 'to the into-,
restsiofl the /6stabli.ilitiieni, 'mkt Nith6 Would have that
moral sway ()Ver. the girls which- would produce beOetj
results than they had hitherto had. lie believed ?4r.
and :Mrs. goatcri. lied 4.220 a year; and 'they oughti to •
~ivertise se' parat,,l3. fir a master; at a salary of £1.176; or-
-XlB.O.

.said if, v.'.Al-a r i-iettia that ,thef. rite
nifittdtt•Oditid be mad .antl ifh;.'iti.cttriseqqueuhe' of
the actorhtnealation to 'oe afforded in the iellon.

The Minatea'rdlatiag •to 'nelinees:lappointinent
were referred to, and showed that he had to have charge
tue traininm as well' as the moral car of
the irlffiates; .but it was Stitildi that:lio bad been 140 r,
fered With *hen attempting to eiereise that' power.
Mr: liairstoves nicitiott hatins, been seconded,•
Oliti! Mize;eo, diffnu thit
the Inditstri ar referred
to the appointment.of. a matron and siipOipterideitt 'he
ndt 'eonlirmed ; but that the itilc.lSaac Ifolnies be called
upon to perform the whole of the.ditties which dey'dlied
upon him-nt the time- of his appointment.
Mr.' S;crbifiiiiiVecdiided the amendment.

Mr, Sco.ii. did not think it would' be right to put the
-sole and nudilided control of the place under a cler4y-
tual , . - , ~ . ,„, i
.
•. Mr, Cool: and .Ir.louton supportedthe anienctitiefit;
and a long and irregular discussion ensued;

Mr. WurrryOserviFtl that, amongst tharliities of the
superintendent; was to t,_Tcive stores, such :is 'firiocliries,
kather, &Tc., and it was hardly likely that they could ejell
Upon a clergyman to discharge such duties. If Oeydid,
it, would only withdrew him from more important
difties: .• • • '.
'The boafdlheiii'di4ided Mr. Titri's
, CAtricd by-d Majority dl io id 7 ; the
vestry, &A' was 'directed to put 'himself in 'ooiritmliiica-
tien with the l'cor-law Board upon the subject.,-4For
Messrs. SMith, Owen,- Satchel]; Cook, Denton, Atkin,
Luff, Syied, AVillialiiS; and :Deai.-•.Aoin.§l., Messrs.
Cropper, Scott,,Baintow, Collins, lignite's Peek and
*lntty.„
On the motion of Mr. Smith, Mr. WalinsleY, flour-
decilei; iqo cledted. ti ittenihef df the hard
in place eflli:l7-hithy, disqualified by nott;attendAncei
and Mr: Broonie Was re-elected: '
The vestry then , „