The Stourbridge Observer, Cradley Heath, Halesowen & District Chronicle.
Stourbridge, West Midlands, England, 1871-06-24 00:00:00

11

THE TICHBORNE CASE.

The hearing of this ease wee resumed on Monday
mornin4 at the Court of Qeeen'e Bench, Weettninaster,
when the eroes.ekamination of the claimant was COD.
tinned :
The S ilieltor•General I have taken you now throneh your
Ire in P elm, your hie at Stooyhurst, your visite to le toyle
and Bath, and your preparation for the turnty. Now I ask
ou first is there cry incident that you now remitter I of the
nest 16 years of your life In Parts which you have out told
me, and which 3011 aro able to tell me now t
Witness ; I ans open to answer my uneation you ask me.
The Bollcitonit o oral : It Is not u question of my ummory,
but yourst—Wituese: 1 don't remember any other lost-
. .

I-wihe Solicitor-General In there any Incident In. your
leas life at Stotyburst whlcti too now rernerurer lu eu-
d.tlon to whet you have alreedy stated T.-Withers: I Wok
not.
The !Soll,.lter awn!: Any Lsedent alnul your vitits to
no)1. ?-Wane. N I think nt.
rho S dlcltrd towel :00 at Ws. Woehluaton
-Wilms,: I Weir rot
'I he Solloltor•Gener;J: kr y Inukicut to referenco to your
Dreier:oton fcr the aro yl- W .tuen : NJ,I Itlnk Oct only
the Irmo of tho place %bleb yan pronounced wioJE-
Ovebury.
Th. Sollottot °eters!: I rend It from your own writing.
Tee L and (blot Jn.tice Row I. It pnonottro.d
Wanoes :1; Is pronounced V .salbuzy.
The Bohoeor4oncrel : I thanave our trltr.d or. Forbes
Woutrow here. He hal been here toe las: few d aye Is he
cue of ynur wlthesses /
Mtn.. : Upol my word I d 01.% know
The nolla.or o.neral Y. 411 do not kilo, whether he has
teen mut for ithee your 13%,n)hu•s1 6,1d00r...37-Wanes& :No.
I do no.

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Tr e gollettor-Dentral :DM you tete say tursdlare to In. with) ou—luroll•re tor • ream I-I%e !No, Ido 003 ro-
wers:b.' teldeg any.
'toe oh:A:ugh:send : D.d yOu take ay horses orer 7
Wltorma : Ye'.

rho Ilelt-r General : D'a you lay them In L ceou ?
Wit: ess Oe in Loudon, one In Ilampalare, aud one In
The Sollator-General: Who b aught them for you I—Wat-
t:en : I Cent myeelf to buy them.
The Salle:tor-General: Who was your groom theta—Wit-
ftem : Mutton.
The Solleltor-General rt' Man who has been here 1—
Yea
'rho S : letter General : Carter was (or some time your err-
rant. I :Mut he became yr eir terra t fr, In lota
Wlturn.: Thera Is a mist.!,-. about that
'I he nolle' tor Gtneral: For a conelderatte num h—WAneers:
Yes

Solicltor Geier& : When you retained he tctere I
your service 1-1 V :mess : Yes.
The seilcltur 6 naval : I. it fru when you mew him that
he coverer:m.l with yen fur some hours alma the d'ffererit
officer. in lats regiment, end about events which occurred
when you weer in the regiment on the fleet ore what..
n
went on thy 2hol February 1e47 I —Wm.:seas: I •ns aid I Auk
11w.. *ben belt en hour.
The B,llciter Go erdl : Did yon hive a Wulf eenvertation
after t —Wlttes : Very nrobetily,
Iho S Metter G .nera]: to wake it tul.e:lt:tle:ly true
that at rotes Owe or annther you tie converse with him
•tt:ut the different ente...ws of the regiment awl
which et:cereal when y U were in the regimen I—Wit-
ness: I ehould not think Cure I. the least doubt al. at it
It is a wile question for rce to wawa., for he Was it long
Use in in. so:nice.
The Sellcitot-G :neral : to what has been sworn in the
affidav:t eubetatitt.illp true t—Witness: I tild not c. rivers,
web Carter tut am hour tocether at thy nue time.
Tne Solicitor General : Is ti substatitialty true thdt early
In your connection with ettler, that yen couvarseo with
him for some Tour, ebout the events which octet:rod In the
regiment : There to no at eist we diet talk anosa
the regiment from Thud to time.
T.'e S 4:cltor.o.neral S Am o his statemeurs
Info I—W:tna s: N tas regards time. Oa the 01,1,...;:ut0r,
I was o ?ly with h:m abeet belt an hour.
The Seilaor General : Is it free (ht., he entere I y our set.
vice soon a:ter tour rather I—Witte,: : Yes,
The Solicit 11-0 nerol MC ann tattled your sertece :tree
—Wdoese: NO, he did bor.
the Solt:Ater 0 floral : Mr. M'C-nti was a vseltor I--Wit-
n.'. : He renottned in my Louie.
Tte Solicitor Genteel For many monthr ilo
was there, toe time I cone sey bow I .1:p.
Tie S onitor-G. metal Many niontlit P—Witneeo : lie was
to the house lit more menthe.
The Solicitor General: Sapporteel by yeti 1--Witness ht
mother.
lhe selleiter.Genseal: end doing no ESTV/CBl—lVitnces
None, whatever.
lit, Srilettof-Hreeral: Had she ever seen lihn before ?
Mmes.: ho.
The SoilatiopGeeeral : Would this be substantially tens,
that Itetletitet Prince of W Hetet Croltiou, on the
trot eight, and that on the beet day (the d.h of Maw) he
remained tolling cub you for some lecurs t —Witness: I
thiet M•Caun's ',bolt did rot hut more than half an hour.
The 3 slicitor General It is true substantially Mese on the
that March, or thereabouts, he was talk] :g with you for
some hour • I—Wane'.: I thitit not for some hotws
The Solicaor-General I out reading from hit atti
tacit I
White,, : Ifs remained In the house for tome honed, but hot
ID convereatien with me.
Toe 8 slieltor.Gtheral Had you thent that time a good
&sit of talk with h'rt: t—Wi ones. hie doubt I lea
The SA:otter-Get : Would it be true to say thet when
Meeks, the seri wet melte, come to see yon he hot 9, good
of lsol,ll.- nation with yod —VI t 00,,: het a cot.
tersdtf w h lusted snout bolt an lone I thitk.
Ito S. I -,lor-leneinl Would It be true that whin you raw
Whlne,fd it,,, the se:lane -nal it. on the Ea th:fober et the
•• Wellestev," he had many to ere' eol.•,csation with you ?
WREN. I suppose he was with mien. hour or two hours.
The Sobeln •Gsneral: 14 Ida statement substeutt.ll) true?
—Wituet3 Tel
The Sollcitot-Oenerel: Michael Carrot was • private did
yin see hint In September lesr ; and did he have. hong con-
versation with )ou?—Whtnus.r I had • conversation with
htm bat it did not last ab vs half as hour.
Ihe Solicitor General: la his statement tubs tantillly true?
—Witness; I don't think there Is toy ration to doubt If, I
think I have a rielat to stare that throe conversatioes were
questionput by these wisneases Lee the purpose of ideetify-
Ins me.

The Solicitor-General : Patrick Vary swears that he law
you In September. li'S at Gee is, awl that, you hl long
conversation with him a.,: Shad uconversotlon with
him.
The Selleitor.Oeneral: A long conversation 1-Witheas
It hat co you can a loos converth.t.
The S .11c!tor G moral lan resdb.g the statements of
vur 111.11rUel.-W,theat I suppose he wee in my I.issenee
china three-quarters of an tour.
Tne Sliott r G..i.cr.l: Arthur Hamlet -do yen reolember
him-would it Le true thet he remained fevers' hour + In your
eon:pithy in conversation with you t-Witossa : think
that would be true. I hBrl a CJllVtrilatloll with hi.; but!
don't Mak it !sited more than au hour.
lir S'l.loi2i.:2liiid"WiJk'sX4'frlrSTWlGie;r:`- -
The Solteltor.G 'here!: Red you • long aliment: n with
hlm ne,• : Yet.
The Solleltoi-Gthera, : Where did you go from to Daqin I
-Witness: From London
The B.l4eitor 4neral : There are two letters fro, P.84t0
Bello writ ten by li:ver licithothe to toy I Lthliorne de :4 lotted
in the Court of (a:G•erT. rot them rola
They oro dot IOotttr:O and December VS, 18+9 2—W. And :
I dot iron; all tlio papers wee, lisndipl over.
Tho AtettobGeneril : By you T-Witnes4 : I cent thy by
Di.

The 11 iliclor-Chnerid: I tweerstlnd tueo wore de celted
by you In the pr ,ceedin.s to Chairs.) I—TOT:ram: Jot so.
I did not sow they wioe there.
The Sollcit,PGsuerai When did you We the tenant—
Witeesa : 1 have not the slight at Idea.
The %elicitor Chnersi There is one latter riat.i ooober
30, 1840, in which you mention that you hat rested Ireland
on the 25th, taker a one hours. peonage from Kongatown,
and you state that it is a very pretty place. Y to mutton
that you otreil your regiment at Porto Boil, B clack. on the
27th, and that the barracks are vet, large and beautiful You
state also that you are very much pleased with Dublin, and
that there are as floe streets there as in any town in tho
wield. Yon wade further that there is about to is an Sipes-
(i-n Of the trooiis, end Viet there wee a largo tarnbar of
troops thee, Incliodoog a regiment of aetillary.
Mv Sn. pant Ballantine : I wish itt, j try to see the woods
"Folio Betio," as well en In t v o different pares of ilre :otter.
The lever was eon vollog'y ',elided to the Pry.
Ur. S leant ItarlantiLe : t wish Aso to call yon; yor,•4hip a
latenUot to the words "regiment of &Mlle. v"
The gollc.tor-Gonerai : Ihe otter te.ter, whieg, la dated
Dec. 56, 1849, I have tdready reed. I: couldne the di• noted
word "ciiitt.a" or euttics " There two leliere you sr...te to
your mother. It rppears that you went from il•er,, to
Kt gator., and stayed a day there. Wt.ere did you .04 to
that at Dobiln
Witness • An hotel.
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The Soheitor-Deneral Thir D dated (let N., and you I toed
your reeiroent no the iTtk? Did you pia the next .1?--
Witcess : No, I did not.
The 9,lleitor•Cie, eral : Row long were yxn btto:o you
joined :—Witnen : Fehr or tire date.
The SollAtor-General: What weer you doing : Wlifille : I
dool know.

--1;;;Io'liettor-Gerteral Where wea the regtreent that
Ulna /—WttLese: At Porto Bell,.

The itallciter-Generel : Who received yet:lf—Wan:4 : I
don't romember. I was dining with them a night or two
previously
The flalicitor.flaneral : What lithe process w: en you for-
mally I but—Wanes. ;I don't rem ember.
The dollotorGentral; Who was the colonel when you first
Pinctll-11, itnes• Colonel Jackson, I think
The Fiellcitor.Oeneral; When did you tee him Pr.t ?
Witness: I don't remember.
The Solicitor-General ; to you remember who wee with him
when you ant saw him I—Witness: N.t, I don t know them.
Toe Shlititotofieneril: You det recollect who was there
at the time —Wltoesa ; I don't remember whe I aid meet
him.

The Sollcitrr General fled you your regimentals with
you t—Wltness: Some of them.
The golleltor.Generat : S hoe scoontremente were made In
Dublin, and come here 2—Wltness : Vs*.
Toe linllcltor-General : Some in this country, and 11,1111 in
Ireland 7—Witness . Veg.
The Solicitor General : Dld you go to the colonel In fag
regimentals T—Wltoase No doubt I did; but I don't re-
member the Inc'dent
The Solicitor. General Do you recoil .ot anythtng that
lamed between the colonel and yoursnif when on Jotntd
Vitnesa : No, I don't recollect anytlchg particular.
After several questions hod been put, referring to Incalents
onnected with tho army, the Sacltor General continued .
Did you make any acquaintances in Dahlia I—Wltnt at ; I
lure say I dtd.
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Witr-

connected

CAI you mention any of the names
of the gentlemen with whom you formed an acquaintance
No.

Not one T—Wltners
Tee 8 Ileltortieneral : I) d you Malt pecple oat of Dahlia
—Wrtoem : I don't ace what this hes to do the C..,
vialfwl at Meath. I returned the Same day. I went there to
Mewls of 51r. Ecoy'.. I don't renumber lho mune.
The Solicitor-Gene) at DIA you moot any people yen had
known In Ireland f—Wanem: Ves.
The Bel ieltorGeneral : Who r—Wltnerea : Now you are ;ohm
Into "who" I met Mr. ItAlew. Ile Is Lord Bellew'e iota
I had known him at Stonyhurst. I met him at CAW and.
I think, In Dublin one.. I met also Charles de Belmont.
There wee eh° a Mr. Barks. I &love I rode with him.
The Se,leltor-Creneral : Can you tell me anything about
him I—Wltnew: I know nothlrg of hie private affairs. There
were let. of people I don't remember POT. I uteri to cult
at Howl& Castle. It I. en old place. I went to me Lord
St. Lawrence there I went to Hearth before I Joked the
Teem. nt. I used to drlva there. Lord bi.l.,lrreree and I
litreyrry, so el f:limis

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-;11;e'S Alcl,oraleneral : Were sou alehut of an Ise I—Wit-
ness:l d n't we how toil can expect ma to toll ten his age
flew.. • soul • roux I cannot 111 ton wl'ethee he was
connicil ..t (I.IIIP. I I,ohcv., he Wes °mildew:el aco illPC-
lion, tut It wea • eery dl.aot mot llwre wo. Lord Mx th's
deter there. I think she got married whole 1 was els"thig
twre.

"rho Roltenor•Den: vat; Coyon tell ma her Christian or
1111Y0,.44t surname 10-.1114 he llowth. To tho
bet • •.:.• In•rnory, I have mat her pdors, td.e, hot I
C 11,1,4 leo where. When I came bock to th'a catodey I
e4Pe4 on i.t.t I. Lawreneo. it woe at ids segue.
1.44 :At ito, Dimond . Yen mean to essert that It wed at
: Tee; I thihk to. lie requested a
51.1. tit 111,0 In the House it 0,1130101 as lo WU psi to coll,pon
him, el.' nsve his eddies,. The g, SUPS.. was Mr Ontld•
ford ithsterr. I found lom it It, 5,. .I%tnees•plac, It wee
about el son O'clock. After keeping n, s quarter of ao
hour thy showed me up, and Lord S. Lawrence told the
man to stay in the room. which I thought very Insulting. I
*lO Dot there more than live minutiae I did not say to him
that I stalled him at Ma place two miles from Dentin . field
nine milts.. I did not say Dist I need to stalk there with
him. I WV., dIPI en. I never felt so moms Insulted hy any
ma, as hy a:. LIP POLCO, and got B‘,ll SS quickly P 4 i
001.11. Pe Old not aL k me to Oeacritte the Castle ; nor dql I
fall to do ao.
Th" Ito,- 9eneral Did lie any Iloirt% woe Woe Wks
fron. D ittlo flt.ct Pot two: that he and y• •• Imsi flavor walked I
'het"; .t yen knew nothlognituotl., Vol imaged Inortk:pg ?
I don't think those wme Mow ed., OW navm
her whit was the effect. I'. wos v..ry Insultiog.
The Solleitor•General : Did he turn to the man In the'room
and say, "I hart Min there, Dalian] I '—Wlln,u • I have no
doubt he coneldnred himself very clever at that moment 110

not say to In my presence. I Won't know whether he
asked If anything remark&de had hnppeued at Ilowth whoa
I was them I rem.mber falling elf [lll horse Into • dhoti
thlre. I remember a boat capsiz,ng tool Let eel was landing.
Tuere was no pier: It was ordinary gravel, I tbkk. Thera
Is a good deal of mud therr. I knew a person named Reece
In the nelghlrourhood of Mello. Ile Met on the other We
(the Lewd, on the other side of the I:on-bridge liartaelu,
I used lodine there.

After ottrr Incident, had been rcleered so, the B.llcitor-
Gneral continued

During the Una* that you were In Ireland wee anythinFt
being done es to jibe settlement of the .estates /—Wltneas
Vs. there was.
The 8 !L.:Vol-General : Who *Asa for you In the matter
—Witness: M... Pontine eoted for sue and my father to.
The BollVt.,r4surrel: Hute. you cop,es of any uoere:

mondence between yourself and 'Parse-re Slaughtir and Cul.
lotou wbtle you were to Ireland t—WILTior.: itbluk not,
I. ore teen them Perhaps Mr. Ilulmes has them. Ter,,
ni'ellt ben!, et my boost; I I.l..Mtrt Icy. I otter ytad them
int y were gst all so do ghoet tho settlement,. Ins
e•rirr,nlnd,ic. 1 Iludoet to us. ab.-ot 'my will, that I. last
I nenler my.
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r,:e •iaolt,,r.o .6110 ; *se S!;e ry flo 1 Cocalor& y
&Loot I,he willl—Wl.••e.r• I Odds 10. Re might hsve dose

sontetMng aeons the settlement. hut I (1,38 t remembar.
he 9 .11citarqlenerat real a correspowdenee dated 1811.
4 letter !nail It .ger Charles Tlehborne to Mr. S eughter,
sake I what were the conditions relating to 6-.6 Denison:is
prope.iy atol szt.a.es, and chat power he wood hare In
deallog with Diem utter a will to which Mr. Slaughter re-
ferred, Orton the neorsesty ItArmatiou In detail, con-
cluding as follow. kith mush you do not come Into pos-
rev hot of the several estates until at or the deaths of Sir
Edward Doughty and kir. J Mika Tlehborue, still it I. ammo.
tent for you to d'opole of your reversions In any way sou
ow think proper.' Roger Ci.ries Tichhente reAtoti, atter
some Interval, stating that it had token him a much lotger
Moo to nuke up his mit el than lie bad antley, del tart It
wettl.l. fie wni about going to linita, and wished to dispose
of Us prop..!, More ruing, as there was ad knotting what
wmild hapitett to him Id that portal the world.
Thu With., : Wall, then, you have J tat snotty corrobc.
rated what 1 to! I yon—that he (Mr. Klaughtel) had nothi og
1.,: du with tho settlements, but that he esecuied my Mil.
The *tole at that correspondence, refers to the al".
Trio sulielaor.dent rad : We shill lee. In comdeptenea of
this correspondence dliiyou employ Mr. Siattlhter is. tusking
the all —Wliness : I did.
The S .I.citor.Cleneral: Have you teen lit—Witness : Yes,
at Doctors .commona
The dollcitortt mend: You eta it, I suppose, Ilk, any one
else, by paying one shilling t—Wittleas : No, you are user
a mistake Two tl,f. hat It MIA they sat opporito Cornea'
a table. They ark.: Inc estr,ral questions, with I answered,
and then they compared try eisitature. I was tested about
the will about a week after 1 emu* back.
Ito r 0 meral : lily ere the : No.
The Sollntsr-ihu.ral : Rove yon seen any copy of It?-'-
Witness: 1 think not, I fsncy there was a copy ol It in Mr.
iloiront's Aloe. I llelet tbit k lever read a line oil!.
T,e S Dmtor-flantersl : That you really m•an ti say ?
Witness : Yes. 1 firmly believe I haying read a line of Is.
The Ss: tutor General: De sou knew what a?,, the oiled
f htslng its! Mt. Holmes's office —Wuniesa I auppnae (or
hir One Information.
To Sol ititoor : The general purport of the will you
know,,,- •

wit f-tWiltners Yes. _ _
Tlll3 SallcDot-Gene-al: Then the letter I read roue t me
age g..ve inll inttinc.leus 011 h 'Monne° to ) our cii, did it f
—Witness: N,, net ley the ore.hutdretth part.
The 0o1li:1.os-0 netal : You tay ph have never sten the
WI I, n know the pu,pert of li. Who wm the . bled
of the will? - Witnew: Tie p neltl Male.: of the will was to
get rit of ttie gi(o,ot 0 upon the Tlchbome canter. I formed
to accnnud, Don mod ty entailing my f her (laughter) I
doe% krow whether I 0.0 limos the tight (immune. I so
toreu,,ed It tbst any father het £8,0)0 per sear Oct of the
Do-gilt; estates, and the to t want to the a c aumlation rued
—that would be, of course, lu the trent of mi death. I WI.
not a ITII-.1,1 tenintoal7,
The g .11eltot-0 N. I don't aelt tin to do
• : lly I lostoad of b-log aitito it away wi•h any
Port of the prol.et v whja won't' Ir. Is fee nim,oo to me,
could only tees Cd ,00 par yo.r ; the nit was to "0 1.0 the
OC timalation fund. I ro• was oPo moven, 1,, Sore, 7 whleit
wet 10 00 SA% Inl which his shrm hem told for the pat-
pole.
The S -dlcitrr-G irate lEd t privretand yn to ray that
by the will your Maher wts It hey. Xi 0 0 per 7, at i—Wit-
aietit NO. I toy it wall. arranged lo tt e w.il that inetrad
Of his having the whole of the Income of the prom rty he was
to h £lllO pn
The Sdicliot Ganeral rut was In case you tiled
• To,, tf course tire sit 00. LIA 1,1, CUM* into elfat
maws, inn I or. tore; to toy that it was.
The It 'Litt-0 .heral TIM was the general ol jnc of the
will t— %lc./ se : Yes, to elem.. If the it, bunt theeidates.
The Solicitor General: What was to hatorne of the estates
when ctrared—to you tecellect what psrt.loll, 4j weds the
ohjecis of ror bounty I—Wateess : Vol. June* Dormer, In
the event t I any Ino,her dying without children. D leer
• li, tab,, the 1111111./ of .11,14114.1119, Anil lima alit TlChb,,,,ne
1140,(11. The Doughty e.tatet WWI to go to Air. Mel ge
and her children.

The Solleltor-G:neral : flow came yogt to select J :mei
Dormer /—Wetnesi Well.! cannot very well forget, because
I got lute trouble stub Mrs. Naugle about It. I did It be-
cause he was the second son of my oldest gouda—the second
sou of the eldest daughter of uf James Itch:soros Mrs.
Naugle Is my aunt, suit slater to my tither. bite thought
thes her SOD should hove 11, aud she has lower folgivin me
for it from thot day to this. She hail is row with me. she
wanted me to makes will In favour of her sone, and so Mr.
Hopkins did. I said I wouid not. I had already made a
will, but I we riot gni vir to tell her
The Sobel or.Gr noral :11 .w dui she he Mai! yti had
not selected ti r cOLi D nit I to:I yoil to Lid first
piaco th.d the knew no: Ig about It Si, use under he
b.iler tho:I webt rov,y without making n will. 0! course
she knew It atterwar ,s, or she would never have iower-d
herself to trisit ma as she old whey I returned. T .ey flea
all very f tat In ealllng mono Impostor, hut wheel a lei), lite
her mikes au Iropoetor ot herein I thibk there Is something
In U. (LanAkr, In winch the fondolne element prednrub
meted.)
The nolleltor amend : You said you hod some words at
Sir. Hopkins'., and then she went away. Well : I
suppose you want to know where she weed to. Well, I did
not watch.
The Solleltor G mend: DM you ever rev your unit after
you had had there for words I—Wltuees Ye., I believe 1 did
gee her once after Mist
The Solclter•Glineral : Jost tell us, If you car, when wu
lII' she had these few words with you f —Witueee : Not long
before I weld away.
The Soliciter-General: Who WU present 7—Witness Mr.
slid SIC, Ilopki.d.
Tile Solicited-Genera!: Whit, hire Hopkins In the office ?
Witten/ : I did not any the rite , I said the hone.
The Solicit r-Gerieral : What tiestel about tht will I—ft it.
acre: She tried to re:suede mu to m-ke a will before I ISODS

man!: D:al ah nag:, it upon you l—Watness:
Toe, fore guar., of an hone r booty minutes. I beilers I
saw liar once afterwards lii Mod. ri
The SAtaSta r•Clauses': lid you part good fri...asday,,-Nflrs
fleas: To Sell the truth, I never wh o
s on very goo
: But, me tar as all outside agpear-
an :es 'rem concerned, did yam part frlendal—Witness : Wel),
to far as I ra member, neialse she nor I knew that It would be
the last meeting.
The A-Balmy Ganerai : How long before you went was the
latt time you saw her I—Witness I think, two or three
months.
The Sore taraCeneral : And the censer, Mon shoot the
Will six Or .c..,11 mo Ale a-core )ea went swag,
Mtn—, : YbS
Tle *tor G rer a' Then am Ito take It Vast Goa kdew
yea parted Ira, !. ran to ItNreht terms at noi
Well, I c ahnot teil u ih.t sLe keew I. She C aew ma I
never had any groat lave far he-. I think f pinta fr,m tar
rtalt lariat way.

To! itficitgr•likotral : With whom did rn leave the will
—Wi tows.:
.Wi:h Mr. S.‘u:zhttr.

The : Had yon any !nether comwenn.
drone ab:int the will after you bad kit it with bun !—Wt-
I b,lieve I had
. .

T;lt S',-11t1:t7:e-6e-.7e.ral: Whet Y-W.tuesa I caul, glee the

--T'U Solicitor-General : At.out wheat—Witness: I can't
tell you hi. long OW.
Toe S 'netts: Jenorot DI you correspond with him
direct) ?--Wl:nrus : I cannot lay.
The tdollcitor-Gencral: Ind you see him, or was It by
wrtt+ng t—WttLe•s: It wu by writiott, but I am under the
trunrctsiou that I raw him on two or three 00111)13 outer
{bat,
. _

- -
Tho 8 Ilet-T-G,Leral: DA you evtr :rake any ad:litho,' to
tho will, aLy t—Witutua : 1.13, t doh's rethember
tnAh.e soy

Tho S ilt. t-Gsiieral D'd 3on make any alters'icns In It
ati.r it ens ig.. d I—Wither : I r. zo.duber.
Th. Sollcitor.Ganerel : D.d you c,titamplato im.klng any
—Witness: I can't say.
Tivn StliciturGsrera!: MI you contemilate takisg aty
laiiy cost of it, or patitirr at; lady into it, or methyl soy
material alti vitt on in tho provfilons of itl—ivitfl.as:
know I went wlll Slr.Slaughtcr to woke some alievavt,e,
but I think that can In the draft. I Indere I did contempt ..te
Making an alkration. You read the letter in court yonralf
the o her day.
Tke Solttitor-Goneral : What was the, do you relverort
I read on to ter of Chat kind that I renieruhur.—W.tutss
You read a letter alluding to it.
T m Sone:tor-6 ozai: I think not.
lam elite positive you did.
Tee S tlictior-9e.enl: Well, waa that I—Wltnen: It waft
about nomethlog I hod not put in.
The b/ fli you recollect any alteultsts
eon contemplated P—Witnelli: You are referring to the
Naugle,.
The Sollettor.Golieral : Why did you contemplate making
any alterations with re'erenco to the N.inglen itntss :
don't rtmeniher. Taste were so many communications
about the will that I really cannot tecolicct why they all

The 9,llcit,r - General Did anything pate with M.
/Daughter about the Yiabiel al far an you remember? —W.t.
neer ; I am under the impreniou there wee, aLet 1 &Auk I
spoke to him n ern it it.

The firlicitor.Geter-el; After the wilkwas mad; did you
here any co.mumeation with Mr. S.rughter. edth,r Written
or vertr.l. rrl,ll retort nle to au funportittit alteration In ft f
Witurst • I don't recollect.

The Solicitor G o era.: CD you recolleet whether you had
any coremunicitlou with Mr Gooier° in that cu, tact /—Wtt-
non : I really cannot on, attain: to remember what I acid
twemy te..re are.
lt
apeaki.

Tte fionnitot-Cieneral masted the quedlon.
Witnees: I think you have ham km10°164114 me. Axe you
peakliw with rye .rd to a NMI. Wink
The 8 Bator General: 0 course I am.
Witness: I have no reemilecUou of It.
To Bmic:tor General Were the Mingles In any shape
objects of our bounty ?—Witness: I think not.
itee Selleitm.G. nand : Wero. you desirous at walking tiny
alteratten in their fn'-cur 7—Wimerv: I third, I spoke to Mr
Biso Ater, but I don't ti.n.ic it was ever executed.
The Soliolter.tientral : Wm there Loy other person, either
before or a ter ou left E .gland 7-.Wituess: Cereale.ly not
after I let e Wieland

—Tim 8 incleorinenerti What do you say as to belore 7
Whoa. s ; I fled it dill allt to tixAg my memory.
Ths as:dors° nom': Did you ever roamoodesio with
Bir Goldoni or Mr. S'auelitt r ire Inn life E wlth
refer nor to Rift I' Ilig r will I—Witness; I c oft cm:ll,n.
It is hard to recollect these tetras. You mat remetular
you have almost every letter I have written to mimes it onion
me upon. I don't Ituoir what ristht you have with thou
lottets They were given over by me by the ju!Rel orders,
as part nr my mother's property, and you now msno um of
them for Um 131111.Ee. 01 cross-me mining mw
The Lord enief Jostles: Therein nothli,g louou a In tn.,.
Witness : if I had known that I would hero kept potted
don of them myself.
11,9 Lod Chief Justice :Wilt you swear you did not write
to Mr. Sloughtyr or Mr Ges'ord lOW you I.ft swimd with
reference to on alteration you related made T—Wituess : I
have en rrnorntranco

The Sollettor.(lonerel : Ilehreyou left Furlsndl-191tamet
There. you are ',inn hark swain now. how Is It possible
for toe to reiLemoor P Viii are got all the lettere.
The S Ibitor-Oentral : Wax Eaereal A lad Lver In the
will, either bet, re or alter It wa *l:m.l I—Witness To tho
brat of way bellet he woo never In It
The P.dicl'or-gener..l: kl..uld you be au prteed to /Ind that
Ererad Arundel ye, in the ; that yon wanted Ca More
him shuck east, nil thSt 300 wrote upon the so' jeer P....
'0:1, cis: No lm not aurprlted. Its, tact eurprlted ad any.
thtop yaii any. IWS alt aware what I put ham lan the wl It
lor.

Katcll or.rgeneeral : Do yen koow what you wished to
have him Orock out for ?—Witnese: No.
The 0 dtcltor-Orneral road a letter from Raker rale tor,
dated from buenos Ayres, March 17. lhfee, hg Wht h bo
eta ed that he I,,usht It rola oteeseury to alter the
will wrWen by Mr. Slaughter, so far as Evernd Arundel
one ranee-rand, as he "Ss gotrg Into the toevlc'a e at
dtoolburst to be a Jmult, and ho therefore did pot
thil it It ugh That any power should remain vested In
him lie dtd not wish any to be gowned at present fu his
place. The letter farther steted that he (Rver Tlchbornm
and Ids mother could Pierre agree togother. and In Mu, ',rot
: of his fa' her dying he wleht d provlelon to be made to Ilee
soy wiere out of TichOorne, as he could not put up with her
charecier. fled yoa iorgottn u that I—Wltnern : I Not for-
gotten thee I bet written to eireford atoll on the rohj-cl..
S vend it or letters Oh rot which were of the met
ore:teary che tauter, errbteu to 1..k1y Tlelib"rne 10000 of
thorn, eh tec Aptll, 10.7, the clinging talked of his having
mai his home to prevent them bell g iLir.al 14 the abetting
‘Mnere..d conelndi d with a statement that lin was • groat
deal better "vow that We heated."
Claimant I really melt appeal to your lordship To It
eight that snoh eold be VW: in DOUG?

The Lord Onleattetice: Immo' no ei&hy which twit-
lewra should be excluded.
M. Strjeent 131.1untine: I cannot rube any o` jrctl an.
The court tau n Apia soi.tureed.

Mr 85tIeerit Bel'mitt., at the elttiog of the court, on
Tdesdey, sell th d in conseepienee of the length et time oc-
med.: by the tst :I, Ids Mende and TAniself lied thought it
right to meet to fecortain as far ea they could it. probabte
duration, and to consider what comae should be punned. It
was not generally undente od that by Act of Perliement bin
lordship had no power torn r mond the 10th of,Auguet, and no
power to renew the sitting. until the Ord of November. The
question was whether before the iteir of AmMet the plebe-
so'. case ceuld to finished, and his teamed trlend enablee
to seek. Lis epetch for the defence. This, however, was
forted to be ter:eerie bonen:Ll'. The pielutid had said
Chet he hal 117 snowmen still to maniere, and thet
wise mile a trillug exaggeration, for there were certeinly
/el wie.lll the einterectee of the ere wou'd nq ere
shetell li., examth st. Navy of these uo dotet would he
short witue•eee, het ineey most Lae • censidtraele time In
II ele in chtef Teeter was idio u great body of
velemCe fr. in Ai:wrens en commiseton which he most Is;
le 'es, the J Ivy, and eontrily he sould in the rod have to
"lire' elitii.e tridet ea. Under these circumeteneee, they bad
er,,l to ape!) I. his Lent:drip that he °wed allow an al-
Jo. emelt: about the 10 la July, as that would be a great
oorieenborea t. everybody, aed would') st, hu was sere, cense
umee teary e.elay. Tele apolteettnte was mode solely on
their two lothele and wes not eamed by any with on the
p rt of his lordship.
TonS Alei.or General &eel that he ee c incurred In the
ernetearl in Iby sitting null tho 10th of Arleen there
would to at y °hence of th!iplalsitlt's case hying finished, aid
ho (the re iteltior-Glemeral) having I is "soy," ho should oppose
the apolleation, brit Viers woe is Tr rth rio prospect of this,
and iheretore theme), qnmel sr IrJe what was the moat con-
ee,eeet gime ger • breek. Wi.hout forgetting the mtharallehet
Demurs ot the jury, and recollecting that his lemithlp hod
way heave duper. .0 r.er'or tr. at the Ohl Bello he fore he mentor
circlet, he Delight tha. the 10. b of Jul well be the most
COP verdant time fee on a • j .orinnee.
1%. Teed Chief J Attlee said that he hind been extreme>,
desirous to rff ird every c.ihveldi rice to beery body teat won
in hie pewee, ited lie hot appointed the present %Mitres
upon theengreeti •n that the cam would °copy ate or soon
week,. Ile should stilt he contort to sit en until the 10th
ef August flits could get the Dome Secretary to app Ant
Foto nee elm to go circuit for him, and no aouht the ti erne
Secretary would have done this U the case coda have been
fleveed within tint tame
The Foreman of the Jety said they were welter centent to
Inane the matter in the bends of the court, but he Beegested
thee it woull be most convonient to souse of them that the
reesremble g should not be until tee 7th of Nevemeer.
The lend I het Juries raid that there would be plenty of
time to coerider that
Me R WSW. ileum upon the or of the court, and said
teeet he wished to address his Lordship.
Sir. SorJeant itellantlue met that any expreulon comtne
from thee peritlem wt u'd prolneely invite further cheery.
II ms from tenvielt.
Tee Lord ("Met J alike : I recollect that Mr. Rattail/la la a
within lu the fits,?
Retellf,: I am an blued party.
To L •ret C skl JiTtlce : I cannot heer any apellettlon re-
cap: hem a p..rty In the swills Or tile Counsel, becauie Its
winces would beat liberty trr melees. melt would invite ore
mr no ions Irma tbe o'h.r ride, sod besides every witness in
the ce. might addreen toe.
Mr. Reel cede ten n retired to Ids seat.
'i.e crom-exerninattan of the plaintiff was contlntied by
the 3 Ilmtordierierel, lie said In Leland my income was
reemt £5.9 a year. It come from the estate, and won pail
Into Cex'a hank Thin war seclusive of my pm, My agent,
Mr. Cone, is Dublin, received it. At C interhury I recollect
loath g with Mr. Othiles, a clergyman. I hew him at
T.chhores. I lest saw Sir K Li oghty anti had, Doughty
I went away in Jots,', July, or Aitgust. %Veen the
Seito WM lost and I was picked u? I had no resourfte.
Tee 8 onciter.Gtheral : but who; nem urea' had you In this
cenutry. Ii w emeh woe there loft to poor credit at Giutee's
met Cid rest—W.tors: There most have been a good seen
I crud truce Mawr: fur X 1 001. I sheik I was aware of sir
E. Deed rl'e death that ts, red lemon my ime me ho ,e3eo
or £4OO ulcer, making my lucerne Lean or reo.o. I comet
•ay wa wee et my batik-ere', hut I could hove drawn for
Li Oh) shoal landed at Melbour
Tee le 410.41 'moral D • yen meen £l,OOO and no more
—Weer,: I ere' hot coy •• no more," I leave that oat. It
le Imposernie to. nee to Bey what was the whole of toy ran
boll:ean when I tended in Mollworne. It am 'rental
tonere:la seer X 1,040. It was £7 oor DOC more probamy
You Wet) me attire !ie. I -enema at Melbetunt : there would
be more due to sisal Met time
The Lri Calef Justice l Was your income p into
Glyn% I—Witeem: Yea,
The 8 olicltor.fienesel flow much could you hem drawn !
ag•Anst when you arrived at Meloeuthe I— Witness; Ll,oeo
or ,e 1,150.
The 6olictter-General : Have you Geer taken any other
name than Da Cestea and Tichborne I—Witness: Ye.,
occolonelly I Irmo tale-: another noose. I have allot at
sin run club under another eeme. I went under the earns
of Morgan for two months. Tots was etre r I left the reel ui
Tewinhip in Australia The name of Morgan I used, but l
ove It lir there. I suppose you know of it, and therefore I
tom as well tell you I was not nailed Morgan, but thee',
"Tom." I never •ent by any other surname than rich-
t:erne, Castro, and 71 ogee. When I made the MR lavit on
the Ist of Jene, thee I was under the Imprission that the
iso ornotype now handed to use we! WIWI at 8
ton in the letter part of the year MS, and was a :Menem of
myself.
Ohs 0 dlettor-fleneral : Is edill daguerreotype the one you
&sorb 1030 II r nilent as token of yonreelf hosting ce.•
tome ss : It does not leek like hoeing curtmo. the
tore her a hi' and riot ac th on, as stated lei the attiday.t.
I topper. it I/ tha same 11 )00 say se
The ilteltor (le Wei : You deposited this daguerreotype
In I Wooer,. wrens del you gut It from I—Wemets Upon my
word I don t know.
Too S onettorGeoerel Whose property was ft I—Witeese
I suppose I get It from my mei her. I hove no doubt I dtd.
The SeLchonGenend: Tell me as nearly as you can the
phee °here yen met Arthur Orton.—Witness: I lint met
him at the latter cot of thee at Beiedale. I next saw Lear
six months otter at leiledala agate. Lie then bore the name !
of Arthur 0,-ton, I met him at ortntght after that at Dereo.
I stopped fur or five day. ails him. He wan then called
Arthur Orton. I went to the Ornate and onus back, and
then went over the monutalin with hlm to Brother. I was
leek film a couple of days then, lie was then called Arthur !
Orton I went back with hint to Diego. I met him then
on and elf for eighteen or olleeteed months. I next sew
him, I thil.k, in 1,58 at a little place called etratford.upon•
An in. Thus Ls In (repeal met
Toe Solicitor, Generel : Ito long were you on habits of
biter:mune with him 7—Weeets I think he wee thou with
me cieustant'y up to the latter end sf leen
The S licit. Go. prat At or rear B•renord-upon Avon f
WiseeT s N crusting tto eouctry. We moan' to 11,ectt•
ci rth, li, Victert The diatelct ta called the Oven.. After
the end nt 18 91 mot blot at Line, on the Si urrue.lindgee
rivsr. Ile stojeud with me four or Aye days, aud then went,
web mo lip to Wane-Wei:o.
ya. may Ann you at
Waege. lenge Witueen Fine or az days. Ito then welt
awey. U., to Hula thresh, had gone by the name ot Arthur
Orton.
The Snilettor-General : Where did you next fee him, or
whee I—Vertnen I the,k four or flee months &her that.
Teta veiled te in Pee I was living lint outside the town of
Wsrg I saw Win in the town teat bigl.t, and I
Ilist, K he stayed tee eight with nee. We then we nt to
! Othilertny. Wo were toyethnr Mem the ttme we left Wens,-
lA ows shoe, teu dam. I eild not nee Wm agent until 18661
I thl
Tn. Sorelee•Genetel3 IYetrii did you ere him let M)?.—
Wile-s : In Wages-Weep& I saw hen outs, or time sc.
Cotli niece. tee 'lnt qine fur three or four days, the next
f,r dye or ale Th.: a was on Interval of some months be-
tee en, ile then most Isy the DEMO id Mired 8 o'; in, The
lint time I •ew piori waa the tot of June, 106, at my own
pl Co. lie was there e hen I left It.
The SollettoefTmerel 11 od you mute coneereatton when
eu toned I —Wallets : I caidiA mole* nor coo 1 reemb
lect ebet we talked ahent
The S •licitor-Gen,rel : C root you reoollect the head. of
him olhjoct. eon Manatee I—Welleete : 111 dld F don't &Whir
that 1 thculd Inform you.
The Seliciterdereneral: Why notet—Wltneu I don't med.
leca what le wise. I don't see what my ceo•teation with
Another ptrson has to do with you. I believe that thla 10th.
nowt why I would not tell you.
Inc flot!eiter.l3e.•eral : Lime yen ever communtcated with
him stem : No. I have written (shim.
Selicttor•General : That is serried blue like a communt.
celhin. Where did )011 eddies. /—Wituees: Wegge-Waggs,
to the cased! a lite -d.
71 e SelcAoroller ere': Who wee that relent /—Wituces:
Way thoulo 1(011 noah Am I bailed te a AVM !
Ins Lire Chief J auto° : Yes.
Witees• : limes Joseph Rthbins, a wheeler-Get at Wegg
lie knows Orton Ye:; well
The Bolicttor•thetral Hoe lovg hue he lived In Wegee•
Wren% Not long Ile Carel there about len or
lelth 1 keew him long 1' store th et at I went and Gatemen,.
Ile *stymy, passed ail Joeeph Itchine. Ike is e 11l at W:lrga-
Wesse. 1 cannot tell you the date of toy leteer. I think
that it mem in 1868 1 wrote to Arthur Orton to C3MI) over
hero, shod I wourd pay his expenses I go; no answer.
Tee 8 eteleordreneral : DJ you know why Arthur Orton
went by the tame of Alfred nith I—Witneaa : It was quite
°noire") or toe to mind me offal Fruitier,.
Toe itellcitor.G.neral : Do you know I—Wttnem : Yes, but
I don't sr. why I should ens— or tha queen°i'.
Mr. dedeaut Ballantine: Answer the question.
W ithem Ste had done eomething :rot in co:atonality with
tb law.

TeeM Metter General : Wdnt wai It he had done I—Wit.
sem : I don't think that I have any right to tell you. lie
told me In ontflderc
Tlh S t,r GcLeral: lilt on Arthur Ortou'a account you
ol :et Wlthee : Yes.
Yoe Solici•cr-Osot rat ; D:d It make any difference in your.
teeth.", towares Malt—Witness Not a bit. I told him my
name was Tichborne ice be'ore t came away. lam Tuts
sure that he did not before this know It Irom ant hddy
el's.

- Tins Bothltcr General : Art you yourself Arthur Or:on 2
Wltne s : No, I am not.
Toe *an:nor Geheral : Are yrni the ton of George Orton,
of 69, *Mattock Wapping, a large butchar there f
tees : I am not
The Solleltoi-Ocneral : Were vett born In June IB.IA and
baptlsod at St. John's Church, Wapping 7—Witness Why,
no ; I was born In :8 9, ad hsyttod at the Madeline, Paris.
The Sol'citonGer ors!: Is It true that you In your early Me
suffered a good deal with St. Vltto's dance I—Wlthem : Not
to my knowledge.
The Solleltm,Gmeral : Were you tent from time to time
on hood th;ps for tie ben flt of sca voyages for St. Vilna
dram, I—Winless: I was not.
The Sollellorthotoral On the 20th of April, 1848, dld you
leave this Country In a ship calltd Ott Ocean /—Withissi : No,
I did not.
The Solfcltor-Oeneral : Was the captain of that slily
uamd neaten, mid the owner of It Brooks 2—Witnesr : /
cirm:t km!, atlthing

Tha dollcifoi.--,srar-.11: Did Mu. Brooks go on board the
ship aa for as Antwerp 7—Wituese : Id hf know .Imin,
about the rt.tp or Book; coludderlog I was at Stonghutet at
the time
.. . . _

The Iloilo tor General D'd you arrive at V*llnrideo lu
N o , 18181— \Tamers : No, it Wa3 le Jaffe, 183
The B,lleftm Gummi: Dal you duo t toSnip ',ld go to
Mellapflist—Wituesf : Certainly mi.. I had tothlng to
dem rt from
to

4.; A.ll4;:itnr-(1.414ral Wen) !on fft Methortroe from 1E49
etitairly not.

The Lord Chtsf Justice : ii during any pert of that time?
W/Inees : No, my lord, I waa In Ireland In 1819.
The 9 llcltorcleneral: And in 184, when It nor Tichborne
wae serving tho Queen, did you leave Chill and come In this
country
Wieners : How could T, and be In Ireland ton.
1 he fialleitor-General : pun 7-15rItionse : Certainly not.
The SI .11001,(41.10rttl : Did VII lease this country In 1851
In the snip Middleton the captain of which was Storey. wish
two Shetland pocks constge loon Orton in this country to
• nut ycordi to Hobart town ?—Wte 1 iii nos
Th 6 Sorellol-.191.end : Ord it so charms that Leo of the
sailors on Ward tire M iddleton Woe called owen Latch. gr. I
James Peu1.1.4 s—Whiress : I cannot tolly on whet the names
of the lotion to gist be.
_ .

T Did you slay from 18'.2 to 1664
la Vrn Dkmair'r Lanor—Wanct,: I cover wm there In my

'rho n •Ilel'o -q.t.:Fru!: DM you then no In r•hroe/7,
to WlN:erre i—Waut I toilet., I did no to urtie In

-71.15t0 8-41eitin-Gentral : From 113bart Town, rild yru
librs U .httt Town from Yuri Albert in Ibs, on y. or way
to Mr. Jo'n.sorfa place, called Newbury Yolk I—Wlineier

Ihe Salo:tor Central : From ISSI till July, 1816, were you
In MT. ToM,TOlia tOTVILO tu.dir the tome of Arthur
Orton /—Wttoess I crro, occur in Us sorvico fir a day in
my hie.

-114.-Solletter..Gelcral Were you engnged fr,on Jo
Iy,
1852, till heetreber, 1856, barathe charcoal at dale I—Wit-
nets . No ; I wan at Sale a othert time, hot certaloly not In
the capacity you M ate. I told you before that I never wt nt
under the hatne._of Arl.hnr Orton.

...._.. .....
neral : Were yon enrarrd by Mr. Foster
et the Meth' ii at erippesland In Dereinbur. 18.50, AVri
did ye u re•usin in tilr cornice until the nii of December.
18. es ar Or hut Or.on 1-1% N.c certainly io t
frrl'ell,r.Ornerol Arthur Orton sue Mr. ?niter
for w ger due to te,e, and was th• not flu ,hpvet,tiy
referred to arbitration I—Witness : Certainly not
Toe 8 ilcitor Caroni: In 1859 were you ostler at the Royal
Erchscre S. able. at Sole ?—Wttneer : No.
The riAlcitor-Geheral: Were you at Reedy Crceit, or the
Plat Diggings. In 1859 7—Witneer No.
The Solleitor.General : In 1851. did you no from the last.
wined place to Molintouln, and did von (hero Orange rot,

Mimi and appear for the lint time as themes De Castro,—
itness . Cartainly not. I Webb by the name of Castro from
toe very first.
le a illeltor General: And did you Rom 164. till you ro-
tor:led to Eooicuiln 1t.09 Call y mrself 1 horns. De C Astro 1—
Wit Less : I never called myself auy tiling else.
Ihe Sarchor.Genetal Should you be surprised to find
that Roger T chbilme was never Cl Meltapilla to his Me ?
Witness IVO It to rather queer for you to tell Me I was
th. ilaugi.ter
be &diettor Usner.sl repeated the q testlon.
IA insets: Lam not surprised b. hear you say 13.
'the Solic'tor.General repeated the questlem.
%Moen I should cm Villa, be very much surprised. cOll
aldering that I was thore.
To 31II:Itor °mend : Should you he sf.lrprlred to An that
two people to whom you scut umemges at bletlaplllu left that
place two %ears before Roger Tichborin left England 7—Wit-
.o..: I. u!...intain that It 1. 001 tins

The S ,11,strer-Grooral : liave y read the Chill evidence
—llrituau: 1 have real part of it. Yoe.
The Ikcitoe.9rner. el eve eon hal tn lotetut to read
wh,la out— Witalell : No, I nave read wit& tans:w.t to
know rnat your agent Was t era two year', tellog tnea what
to any, before you went there, and tried to bane them
(knalror).
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rie Mei'or. ner& :3, we braid your learned counsel
say to Ids opening.
Witness: We will prove It, that Is b ter timn Marlon I.
Ihe Solicito..(le erai : It is possible that other thugs may
be provtd aleo.—Witnem : You bad better prove them, that
would he better than asse.sbor them
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T:.• llattorllenerol :I tore I prorred to real thr. affi-
davits made by you hi Cl, ulcers. to 1(H. with reeerence to
eorrospnnel,nce who 11. m Thomse de Castro, I will self
you whet:or they were ore.' for he pup,o of r.dEng
DI luey I—WlMeen II you put it to me wheAtir they were
morn for the purpose of obtain', g m,n4 olterceads I
say no.
The itillettor General Were they used to your knowledge
for the purprre of raising money to,yto I—lt/An:as : I d:in't
remeinher their hew, need for that potpie.
The tiollettor-gehe-al : Were they lepet In the endeavour to
mire in inn)? I should Iliutk the prohlulllty wood
be that they were filter,

The Solicitor-Generil : Do you know whether they Were
submitted to Mr. Ps,. wick e for the purpose of raising ototicy
for you l—Witcesst Well. I had an ibtroductlen to Mr. Pad.
wicket from Mr (hallow, hi. P. and I saw him myself. I on'y
hed one Inter/kw with him
rUe floilettor.o incest: Tau don't know whether they were
ever, uhmltted to Mn. Pa wick. by Mr. Holmes for the put.
pose of ralsitig money l—Witeeso : Now you brit g this chatter
to my recollection, I bell-re that Mr. Holm,. either called
or sent to Mr. Padwicke with refetemm to raising money
/Me three or four years ace
'I le Solicltor.General proceeded to roe I from an nth heft
mule by the clsimant en the IA of Jely, Pell, in witlch he
let forth the decumstlinces outlet which Le was engaged at
Steloourne by Mr. lr-stir, the details of which wore wets,
ile.iy thermals as those which he gave in his examination In
cblef. Di you recruited sweulog that it
—Witness Yet.
The Sollettor-Goneral read from the Aileen, which stated
.hat on the itisth Angutt, 19,7, he wrote a letter to Lis chi
friend, On Thomas ale (Astro, at Nellapille, to Cult. The
letter, which WU dated ...genet, 1317, front the Poultry.
L hdon, sp ka of their old at ti talateoceahip, and the chili.
cultles which claimant experteuced in obtaining ',weft:on
of MS ettatea, sill In pr..tvitig that he oas the lime brine
who left garland thirteen years ago 111 r. j tested Dou
C.oti, to write a few lines to him, and also to Mr. Holmes,
in order to help him to establish hts I 'entity. (lament also
desired to be remembered to a number of persons named,
and rem tested that they wculd also write him. To thyt letter
rely sic received from lb dm de Castro (ton 0( 0,0 The.
de CAlltro), Mating that his father had bees bereft of reason
sines Roger Charm. Tit:Mt:roe left. The letter state I that
the opposition had been going about at Mitapilla trying to
get evidence
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The Solicitor-General: Batore I proceed further with this
correspondence, probably we had better luljourn.
llts Lordship : Peron, we adjourn I would say, with re-
ference to Mr. ltddel IVA appiteati us, that If he ho any-
Wog t ray he shoo,' communicate it to you, and th m you
can iststo It II you think It right to do so I can very well
no 'erstsold it ooer Bstio.tlaeot *win, to Any %cinema
molds g any staternent except lii tLo course of exemluation
DU WWI.

Salentine t My lon% I ammo nothing Other
on ore sloe or thu other, but die wool. of this case is 1,11 of
the gravest acculatt,s egishist a variety of persons. I. must
go on to the sue, laid I apprehend that terrine can only be
tie,rd at the proper &ill,. and to tho ordinary course.
At the conclusion of the al ,urumeut,
Tie cross-tranguattou of the wltreso was tosamed soon
st..r two o'clock.

TUO-I.Tor-d-11;;! Juetfce directed that ho persons, exlept
barristers' c!ert a, should he Eeated below the jary.n.A. This
direction wae given In accordance with the wlehts I the
jury.
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•
'he Sritette °metal then dPected attention to a letter
written from Loudon, on January 1, DM, 13r the cialmai.t to
Doi Nair, de Castro, In wsich he Joked that a lock f hslr
which he had Weal when In South Ainslie& might no f-r.warded to him, and he eta, that be Wall certain of trlllllol
Tae 8,11d:or-General : Wean you were in Chill did scu
atop with Din Pedro Casus r —Witness Yes.
Tim 8 •licltor.Orneral : Did you, as Arthur Orton, stay In
h:. hotos Carr drily irot.
The B.dicttor.Deneral : What age was Don Teiro Cadre
when you were In C.,111/—Wituess : A by of seven Or Light
years of age.
The 8 oitottoreleueral then read a letter In &newer from
Don Pedro Cade°. dated Idellegnila, February 24, larri, In
which he stared that an thud had come over to if ellaplils,
and that his drat dry eon to ark for the certificate of baptizer,
but he oould cot dud It though he hod Lai luterviees oat
the et.i.j.oc', and the writer further dated that Barra had en•
dcavourad to make out that the claimant 1r43 an importor,
thsr Arthur .too was the son af a Loneou butcher, and
that, after travelling abroad he mod, acquaiLtance with
Loser llehborne, and got poemadon ot Ida mere, and that
Ticuboruk aoot to Andrei,.
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--thu ioticttor.Ger.erat Loi me ask you, have you altered
the colour of your helr r—Wituess :Certainly net.
Tne siAscitsr Genteel : Have you since the beginning of
the tale! I—Witness Not, upon my oath. Mr. Attweil s
my hairdresser, and comes in every morettng. I amid no
to know why you asked that question, Mr. SAlcitor
The gAlestor General ; You will see presently why I
sulked it. Will you give me the original of the letter of
Ks's. 49 f—Witnem : I don't see why you thould set for this.
The S slieltor-Gmeral : You are constantly making objec-
tions. If you have any appeal, make It to the judge. I
had rather not have any except out cs mmunleatlons.
The Solicito,Gleneral proceeded to refer to • lette, In
wills.% the claimant returned thanks for the Ink of hair uhich
had been forwarded by a lady in Chill, atlli sent here UMW'
that she hat Cote him are:3 service by reeding the Ink of
heir. The writer s:eteal that the sdkor she were In hope. he
sietibl die, azd were se: Mug delay aid, further, that a
slumber etcfliaas, all the litchoorno tesamiry, and the gentry
In the country round, treated hlm as the true heir, and that
the truth must gime out.

IkeSoliel.or-Osheral then pre ceeded to read a letter from
Mr. dolmas to Ese.i so de ClVra. dated ,o.o' f. 0. "..I-01
5r...," tsw• a. ior the I.k ot hair wrack
Okiiais Attained& had sent, and which would be of great
importaoce inasmuch as it was identically the same as the
c altuant's hair at the present time. The letter also stated
that Don Ceverra Barra the agent of the opposition, had
been endeavouring to make out that Sir Rogor was the same
penon iss Ai thus O. tun, and raked th et in the eply informa-
tion ahotbd he forwarded, stating whether the family tat
ever koowu Arthur Ortoo rr nor. The endeavour to connect
Sr Roger with Arthur Orton be (Mr. Holmes) regarded as
altny • bit of chicanery on the pert of the defendant.. In
reply hi that, a letter was recelied from Pedro de (Intro,
deiteO 15. h July, IS 8, Caner that the booby had hover
known Arthur O,con, bit that Mr Roger hal assumed the
name in Wore of his true Christian and surname; neverehe-
leas, he himself communlceted the fact to Do Jon, Void'.
vie nu that it was not hie owe, hut that he befouged to the
E ,giish aristocre7, and hod played alth the el teen's chi/.
Cr:!,
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S >rid D > you pro 3u:e 3 cur own tc'co of
hair P—W>tacws: You sUould not /4 that. I >lava> :mad it
Was mine.

The Mcltor-lemeral handed up to hts lordship • tested
envelope containing the other portion of the lock of hate
Which we delivered to the Citil comeliest n by D tuna
Ahumada, which his lordship opened, and then handed to
the Jury, who compared it with that produced by Mr.
s.
_

The iIc!!or-Generd Is this lock ot heir which you
have seen, the trek sent home to you, my heist- Wit-
hem: Row cm I tell. (Alta leoklog at It) I don't MIME it
is.

T e golletor General Is that the hilr you received,
ant sent word to Pedr.) de Castro that I) mee Ahumeda
hid done you great servlce by toudtug I—Witness: No
doubt It Is.

--1-1;;• i-oircltor General : Did Yon .hsw I to Mr. llobutt
—y.trer. :..1 received it horn Me. 11,40108.
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Tic Solicitor Woven': WA you ever express any doubt Al
AO whether It wa. ttur hit, previous to this time ? —W.tuess:
Yes, I tolu Mr. Holmes that I did not believe that anybody
had cver mat off a look of ray hair.
The 801.cnor.Geaeral Then do you mean to say that
Donna Manmade did not cat off • lock of y our heart—M-
uesli : I have to recollection of her, nor of the name.
Ile tlicttor•General repeated the question —Wltneu
Yes, I mean to say that she never cut • lock cff ivy WI.
The SAlcffor-Oenerof : Then what do you menu uy seitlng
for • portion of the lock of your hair?— Witness Because I
was persuaded to dolt by Mr. Holmes.
The Sollcltor-aeueral : Then for what port 033 did you want
the lick of hair sent to you t—Wittess Why, to look at it
(lond laughter.)
Ti,, tanning of the et:dance with reference to the Chill
room lesion was c nic.uded, am! the court was ag dn ad-
u rued.

Their Ittyal Llighneeses the Prince end Princess of Wales
were preen t Oudot, th 3 lest hour ol the sitting.

The hearing of this ease wan resumed on Wednesday
morning, and the erose-examination of the Chau:mut
was proceeded with.
The Salicitor.General directed the attention of the witness
to pamages In a letter which he had read at the co/inimical
of the peered= d..y's proceeding., in which r.f.rence was
made to 0 Inn being in Aus:ralla, and to the agents having
followed Ids track. Von treat of your egKots. Whom woe
Mr Holmes erop•oying ?—Wilneas : Mows. S..dgfield and
Allgort.
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ho iolldtorGoneral: 11), >oo kunw when they had 131-
lowed telml7-Witnese Ido notrentember.

The Solicitor-General : DJ not you know where your agents
were following the track of Orton throrghout Australia from
place t place ?—Witness: Ido not know.
Tan Saltcltnr-General : Do you know what the track of
Ort..n ese t— Wltttem : I do not know.
.

Tho SollCltor.Genoral You gave us his track yesterday.
Was that what you forulebed them wlthy The places sod
times were those tarnished yesterday l—Wrtness: Yes.
The Solicitor.Ocorral : Then the evidel.ce you gave us yet-
tarday was kuown to Sep:en-WT. /1118 7—Witness Yes.
The Soll.lto,.(4eueral : Look at that (handing a pace!).
Is that Arthur Oit.nes receipt 3—Witness : I believe It to be
Ids.
_

The SzlicitorGanersl: Look at that. Do you believe that
to be bra hands ritiog P—Nt' linen It looks like it. I think
111, hie.
The Sulleitor-Cleserel These are the letter and receipt
mentloord ha the letter of lb& Throe months after dare
lie, t pay it. Ivrey £l4, lloh.rbut, May 22, 186 " The
letter is .t,t,4 Juno t 9 al the lam' year. 169 letter meat ions
the {eking o a atop, end the getiirg a very few good do-
rmers, cad [lent to'. tnl•take sbat had been made by which
LIS had been paid instead of LIS, mai intimating that the
£.4 wan to he returticd. Eaton your oath did you ante
l'pon my rue h I did not.
The Solicitor-General: Do you know how this came into the
voodoo. cot 51-. Holmes f—Witness :I have ro idea, na!oh
be got it from the pets.
Toe S. lleitor General a Do you know how Mr. If olmes's
ageors cume lo get pusseolohf —Wanda, : I can't tall you bow
to cam, lay them
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Toe Sollictig7r-lieneral :Jr our neat letter ton eay you beg
Jon? correspoudebt If roeiale to see I))n Cathie A Illieinlo pa
$003125 he will explain to you ant thing you can-
not umlerstand " Why w,, he to connoubteste with 1) oi
Calve Aceelinn, of Valp..ralei t— \lancet I really cannot
aay.
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--Yho FitonGel eral Cannot you saw whether vat hove
etnitito,Cal with D a Carlos Ante mo ? Witnete : 1 C3V.•
net say whether I wet, or no".
The Solicited-ocm ral Have there been commurications?
—Witness : there mlaht hare hem.
The SAltrtot-Oude-dl: Wnst to notunleatices did you
direct to lte Made to Don Ahtelmc !—WAntir Ah, now you
102.1; ire. lea,'. toil 3 mt.
Tee &Net oi-Geni•rel Have you sot a copy of the letter?
—Witness la the frit niece I dt to knew that I hove
written. I could rot senor I aid not. Will you allow one
to ask Mr. Holmes whether I did or not.
the 8 alcitocAletairel : No, Certainly not.
Witnsts : I thoeght yeu wanted to know whether 1 did or
not —The dolieltot-Gereral : Well, so I de.
Witness : Well, by noting Mr. Boln.cs you can know. It
Ii not that I have any doubt : I don't recollect.
The Solicitor-Gel:Oral : What were the things which
Don Months t'astro could not ter& retard 7—Witness : Well,
it Is very hard for me to say what these thing, would ha.
The ii, Hotter-general revl from the eaaminatbei of the
CI 'mart In e,stitery I had, before I changed in, name
to l's,tro, known intimately a person to named tis name
wen Themse." Had 3 ou known him Intimately !—Wilutes
Well, I don't know what you call intimildtol.
ho nollellot -General • Teoto are toot r.tt r wor 'I. Bad
yoti kliC•te hitlll lotlttia tly 7—Witeel: • I bad kno n
but I caul say Ii timately. I had known him very well. I
you tou,ki c,ll It intimately.
Thu Solicitor-General repeated the question: I should like
yon to define the word intimately,
file Li MON): That is your duty.
W4V0411: You must consider, my lord, that! hare some-
thr.., wnrOS not know:kg thole meaning If !Elle-lately

meant' kincwing • pinion for • long period, then I Mil kUosr
him intimately.
The 0 ollcitor-General What were the Oho which he
c odd not nuelerst.d 7-13 /toes, I cannot tell you, lam
sore. lu the first plate I cannot toll whether I wrote the
'eta or not
Toe Solic'tor itenersi You soy,' My dear and intlmete
fri:nd."—W items Now, those are not words of mine. Yon
hovers. sight to say that.
ills 11.ordshlp 1 also notice—ii My They okl and dear
fee. id."
Toe eolletOrneneral : And "1 trust my very dear friend."
The tp inish translation was produced, and the add.es
was tranelated into Entilleh by the SdlicitouGeberal is—
Door .Ir, my very Intimete friend. '
A Juryman It in the general way of addressing a Mend.
It is !Outfit. fsehion. If • Spaniard had only loan • man
once he would address him so.
Mr. U freed Your obedient humble servant" Is In
general not literally trite In our tetom. (Luienter4
! The S Molter-General : I suggest to you ties% you lived with
Don Thomas de C stro three yetis. and that he well • very
1 old friend 7—Wituese i I was only with him a Inrinkint or
three Weeks.
1 lion Solicitor General ; bet alluding to Mr. Toro you say
'es very old friend ;" wont I >nu hddrelS • IftiltitlMAD In
that way T—Wituese : Wet, I hood not Ste') /dm for 10 yeers,
sa e retell not he a very young friend.
'Pie S d'ociter-C Aural : Teen to y m meal to my that if
you make a csonel secondittance MlsiCsi extends over three
weeks, and then don't see Mat again for 10 years, you would
add rem him ass very old friend 7—Witness Yes.
The original letter to II ielleh lu the claimant's hand.
wri log was produced, and In it the phr..ses +lnch h,ol been
traoslated as before referred to aupeared Don Thom.
Centro, dear sir "My dear Dined Really, twos for-
getting 005 o'd friend of mine-1 mean Mr. T we.'
at ter other gut sUons had been put, the "oral
continuer': In the various sflllnvite previous too Jlthe, 113aS,
had you spot one sleets syclaule about your knowledge or
*No :Waimea with -nr.hur Ortan ?—Witnsts: I don's see how
I seed
The Selicitor-Generel : 11:1 you, when opposing the Com.
noted/au In June, ;MK say. "I knew Arthn: OMn referred
to in the paragraph; i.e was the son of • In tiler in Weppiny.
first because acquainted woth him in Oippesland, when at
Dargo station. Ills face war plgted with toe am all-por. We
were both employed by Mr. R. niggles, of Wmg a- W agga in
1803 a." W. that the Seat time that you mentioned io!—
Witness: it refers to a parajaph, anti therefore 1 had occa-
sion to remember It.
The Solicitur.o eye.' Tbe paragreph Is from a newspaper,
and is set out by you 7—Witness I think that it was the
ant time that 1 had meat' noel it.
T. Solicitor-General You knew, then, that your friends
le ChM bad said that you bore the name of Arthur Orton ?
Witness t I did not know It.
The So:letter General: MI you not oppose the commission
became you knew what they would say of yeti—Mtn.. :
did nat.
. Tete 8 Welter-General Yeu swore • few days later that you
knew the said Arthur Orton very ',II indeed in Goppesiand
about 1e55, and agate at Weir. Wegeot in 1805, bus that you
d toot know any of his faintly until the thee present year
loeS, when in co...wanee of a report that reached you you
celled upon his slater, whom you then saw for the Rest time,
and thet they had made on elliavit that you were roe rela-
tion of the:re, and that they Let beard from Arthur Orton in
.ilmet last, by a letter dated from Yemen tette, in Austral&
Were they the two first afildevits in which you mentioned
'oar a. q telegatoce with Arthur Orton /—Witin es : I de not
kuoj another that was the first time.
The Selloltor-G :coral Ind you know earlier than shit
Ow the defeudaut was about to say you were Arthur 0:tou
—Wotan.: & =mot say. Tao fleet person you wanted to
make MO 0111 woos amain and then • person named Case. 1
cannot answer your question. 1 pro cured the I fli holt of
Mr. C itor that he kuew the plaintiff, Ilona. Cairo, and
Orton ln Australia, and that I was • distinct person frcm
Orton.
The S dleltor-Clenerel ; We. Cctor living In Pentenvllle
when he made it 7—Wituees : I suppose no; he was hoe Beg-
land int a visit., Awl has now gone bock to Australia.
The S Delo: -General : Is it the fact that when the c ons-
mission was honed he was in Auetrelle, and when the o m-
-1 minion was i hero he was in England I—Witneee : You
wi•h to imputo that he desired to mate being exemiued.
Toe Sdlicitor-General : tie as the fact sot—Witness : Yee.
The ri illeltor-Osneral Od the 11th April, ISA, 01.1 you
write to Mr James Richardson of 71, 1110 h-street, Wapplog,
front Wagga Wagga :—`• S r,—Ahnough I eat a perfect
etreegor to you, I tare the liberty of addressing you, and se
my recideuce ie at present In this distant colony I trust you
All pardon me, end oblige me by granting the favour I ask.
I belero there was some years egto living in your nelehbour.
hood a person named 0300. To this man I wrote covernt
letters, none of which have ever been answered. The letters
were of impor..ce to Ott on and bit family, and to
none other, so thee I most conclude he has not received
them, or I am corgen they would have boon answered'
The letter then referred to the posobillty of the oilier letter
having fallen into the handset bush-raugers, told continued
"It o:tort sod his f o oily Iles near you still, or It you have
or can give me aey Information respectlog him I Abell be for
ever grog. .. ." I trust you will find time to oidige me
by seeding any inforrustt on whatever resoecting Orton Cr
his son Arthur ii—Witnest : Yes ; there was that latter.
The Whot mode you so very Anzions to
asc :nein anything about Orton or his son Arthur 7—Wit-
ness ? I was very anxious at the time to know where he was,
I had two address. on • hit of paper, which he left before
be went away. 1 wish to explain that the dictation of that
letter was not mine. 1 requested a schoolmaster to write
and sat whether anything had been Lead of Arthur Orton
lot E lima% 1 had not heerd of him for two or three years.
I ditt not want to know anything auout his family but only
&hoot her
The olicitm-General : You never mentioned anything
about him until the Ira, part of the letter, and yet you only
waited to know shout him I—Witness: 1 Old cut attend to
, the form of the letter.
the Solleitoreloneral : Was there &athlete that you
vonted to tell about Arthur Orton 7—Witume Yee
Toe gellcitor-Oenerel : Whist I—Witnee, 1 decline to
answer that question.
Solsottor-General : I meet press It.
The Lord Chiel Justice : Why do you refuse to answer?
Witness : It might have a tendency to criminate my-elf.
' The Solicitor-General: It would not criminate you heres.
Would It
Mr. Serleant Ballantlne : I apprehend that my friend mast
be bound ny the answer; it Is tota'ly Immaterial whether It
would abut.. We witness here or resewhere. I object LO
any qsnatlon being pet upon thst matter.
The Lord Chief:Justice ; The pilot is a new one. Ido not
remember it having arisen before. (to the witness); Oa
your oath, woold the auswerleg the questiou tend to crimi-
nate yourself
'Witness: Ou my oath it would.
The S Idler ed meral "Criminate" may have various
senors. Would it tend to prove that you bad been guilty of
a crime punishable by is.:
Sir. Serjeaut lea tansies: Do not answer thet quo•tion.
The Lord Chief Justice: list is what 1 cu.-era:and the
WI nom to mean.
. ll.tlAntleo • The witness hut need the words
thet he rake entitled to UM by the law of England, and upon
thee Le deeds.
Toe Lord Chief Jest'. Your loges. would I. under-
skied to mean that your &meeting would tend to render you
ant j oct to eunishment for ortrue. You so understand it I
Wanes. : Yes.
Toe Solicitor General Toen I have nothing further to say
upon it. You say that you had written several letter., to
which yen hod received no answer; is that so 7—We.nese :
don't believe Mutt I hod ever wcitten letters to him.
The L ird Chief Justice: But the whole letter is about
letters which had been wellies]. Do you mean to say that
to" had never written any
Witnere: 0.1 :Mien I think that I must have written.
The oliellow-Geberal: Dow came you to wrtte ro Mr.
It charism 3—Wetness; It was an address given rue toy Orion,
11 f «We to aay of the Inertly it was to Arthur.
T S dbltor-dieneral : Wit et eine the subita: C 3 of the
letter?— Witness: I decline to answer upon the same ground.
should hot write to him upon ail other so, Yea than the
on! that 'to An tend to criminate me.

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A t this perlod or the case an adjournment took place for
an hoar. Upon the roassemola g urine curt,

Witness cuittimed: I cannot tell you the name of the
schooltnaater who wrote tto later. Ile was always in my
office; he in el to come In to sit down. I mean the
•.ciltwo" at Mr. Biggtua'.. I did not alp the letter, end
I think the reason w. that I was going away before it Las
finished.

—i-te-ifOllcltor.Ornered : When lad before tills letter had you
lean Arthur U.tou t—Witnese La lad, when he left me at
Gundyguy.
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-71-te.7l-ali.cltor General: What occurred when you parted
?
Wine..: Ile toll me that It Ito way nuccelolul where ha wag
going he .r.ou'd go Mr to EnzLird. Ruth the aldreuee
Were in E
The &Metter- -leuertl T.len if hr had been nes ucceaful
you would lava had to addreee -Wanes. : I should have
known of him than. W. were goiog t., one al, 40. I ,d‘e,
hoard from him Pg.llll till I taw him In W..gg. Weep.
The Atcltor-Gcnerol: Whet was mead by a., tog In the
letter that thereon.. man living at Wapping some years
sg. C -Wituew I cam.ot tell the rime It rotor. to. I nev..r
got any anewer to the letter, and I never made nay lreolry
who ther Mr. Richardson got the letter.
The Sul:CitOr•Gallaral: YOU are not Arthur Orton I-Wit-
ness C2I t Linly not.
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Tian gOll-clic74sTeral : Then bear In mini that the ques-
lion I have 1,, ask you has no rele.ence to you pernoally.
Was Arthur Urloll ever accused of horse-stealing P—W.tifess :
I don't roe why I should answer that question.
he Lord Chief Justice: Why hot ?
Witness : Yes: he nag.
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l'iU.--;lOfiltorGeners' About I/a/I—Witness :
_About that
itm; but before, I think.
Toe Solicitor-General : Upon your oath did you not go by
the flume of Arthur Or.uu 1,1,11185 U sad then change your
name to Cactro '—Witness: rpoo my oath I did not. I rave
several times sworn that I hare never gone by the n.one of
Orton at all:

The Solicitor mend : When Ater the letter did you neat
see Arthur Ono:A.—Witness : A fortnight rr tame weeks
before I came away. ma -en la Jane, 1809. He and I were
In Mr. littalus's employ In Merl
The SoHanoi-(I natal : You more In your affilevit It was
In 1E035 I—Witness: !low can ona be certain as to a month.
I went into Mr. Illegint'seriplotrflOLlt before the end of 164.3.
I stayed there un It Decomher 1865. I then loft.
Tufa Solicitor•Chnerri : Wed you and Orton In his rm.
plot:rent together l—wancs:: I wits still there. I cannot
Sep that I was then In Ms staplo)ment. We wen, Lover fel-
toe --arrant,

--AftWiat4ring to • ststement In tie affidavit, and aho in
come lettere, the Solid.° mai continued You wrote on
the 20 h February, 1867, to' My dear friend Rome," and laid
that the et', rside "knee found another pair of sisters for me.
o.e of them have been to see Mr. 119Imes. They have b..eu
three days at them, al d thy are quite sure of encomia
Ode th.t.• ts this &If erence which they cannot myke
out. The brother of this tours 1,12111.1 ill very dark,
and very much marked with ,mat'- 'oil about the fivm
but they are very sure I am him. I wonder who I am
to be mar. The man they thick lam is Mill llvh.g in Wane
Wasp., un."er an au umed name .... Tbey say I was brought
up In it' ,pplog and Joe. told they have found a rerpntaide
part of London for me I have never been there. Mr.
telle toe it is • very rtap.ctable place." Now, did
you know to Spiember .lbri that (icy said you were Orton ?
—Witnesv : It Is quite er,debt that I knew.
.

Toe Sollcitry.'leneral You say t at yoo had never been to
Wapping, hut on had Iran there n 01,1 Una, thy
. Probably I did rot rceAlret that.
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Tie lotr-not: it is remmkable. The lint, thing
that Sir R C. Tichirort e. Bart. tines 11 arriving la Lladon
Is to go to Wapping 7 Withers : Vi,.

The' S dlelt4VGl;neral : And you.never usentlot e I It ?
Witness ; I beaelre that I should not like to mention tr.
did no; studiously ke.p It secret. I wanted to know a holher
be hall arrived before rue. I f onid that be had nvt arrived
Infer, tne..

The or-General Did he batmen to *riles at the
aal:00 ninnient as 30tifte11 (a leti;)•)l—Witrielle ( Certainly
not. I wee never known as 0 dun at Mellapilla. It is •
small puce.—Tlis witness was questioned at semi length as
to various penima at Ilellaplila, going of whom he maid lie
knew, and °them he did nt. In cooUisuation ha said
did not speak S ,anteh while I was thee. 1 ired French. I
never told lir. Malty that My to her rue a botcher, ho? fist
1 had tun away fr in • !hop. I old not say I had three
shire. I never told anybody that my f„,th,:y wa., ri h, mid
bed rodgirdn,ent ur sr tne Q :ern
8 heitos -7, . Ii triry hero sw,,rn to tho,e Vamp,
It la tahu f—W tn.si :let, certainly It is I never raid thit
oty fothar had sent Inc to travel. but that the captain had
treated me badly, and I had run away.
Ti e tioilettor-Cienerel Were you on intimate and
ofT ctinnate terms with Cistr, I.—Witt.ess: we were tretty
Infiniti.. IW. ayes three w, eke, in,' slept at hie !mime
five Wits. I nevi? said to anybody that my father was
pi'? of meat to tilt Q men,
Tile Lord Chid Jostles, ral.l that he thought that It was
hardly neezusare io go through all thls in detail.
lhn zolicitor General bald that he was not going through
one fortieth part null.
Wilma continued : I deny that any one there cut slack of
hair from my head. I don't know I imam Flynn:and, Who Is
eudgiaird to have , one It I never told thorn that the name
I oat going by .as not my not name I wan going by my
own name this that of Unger riehborne. I never tobi any-
body th it I bait dererted from a ahlg. I was mver baptised
in 11,0 Catholic to nigh at c;
Pie fuz thee hearing of the ease was again adjourned.

Pot.rApt,n w.—Anionot the plrttenlmb
of " Fekbion. for June," Le Fara speraties "Hair
rolled back over a cushion."—Your cushion to its righ*
ust—bait is that for the head A casinos at the p, 11
in addition tu a chignon would, one imagites, seriously
augment top-heaviness; though to be sure, It might
serve to break a fall. But a cushion so nitnabsd Is •
ml-nomer—call it a pillow.—Pun.',