The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
Dorchester, Dorset, England, 1858-06-08 00:00:00

Imperial parliam cut.
ROUSE OF LORDS.-MONDAY.

The House sat at five o'clock, for the first time after
the recess.
The reasons given by the House of Commons for dis-
agreeing from their Lordships' amendments to the Oaths
Bill were considered; the sth clause of the original Bill
having been laid on the table,
The Earl of LUOAN proposed the amendment which
empowers both Houses of Parliament to modify the
form of oath at present required by a special resolution.
The House of Commons could thus order the portion of
the oath to which the Jews object to be omitted. The
present position of the House of Lords on this question
was untenable • it was not one on which they could
continue • veld:tame to the House of Commons; and he
believed it would be at last settled by some such com-
compromise as he proposed.
Earl STANHOPE doubted whether, in continuing to re-
sist the other House on this question, they were really
acting constitutionally • and he apprehended that if the
Howe of Lords persisted in this course the Howe of
Commons would settle the controversy by its own act.
He advised concession, but could not support the amend.
ment.
The Earl of CLANCARTY opposed the object of the
Bill. . . . . .

The Earl of DERBY thought the amendment contained
a novel and important principle, which could not pro-
perly be discussed without longer notice and more deli-
beration. He said he did not object to it altogether;
he would carefully consider whether some compromise
could not be adopted; but he would not ask their Lord-
ships to recede from the position they had taken on the
measure.
Earl GREY was ready to concur in any compromise on
this question. He moved the adjournment of the de-
bate to that day fortnight.
The Earl of DERBY was not prepared to waive their
amendments to the Oaths Bill.
A long discussion ensued on the question of adjourn-
ment, which was supported by the Duke of NEWCASTLE
and Lord CAMPBELL. . . .

Lord LYNDHURST assented to it; but
The Earl of MALMESBURY hoped Earl Grey would not
press his motion. He thought the House ought to ad-
here to its amendments, but he would not exclude the
prospeot of a reasonable compromise.
Earl GRANVILLE supported the adjournment, which
would give time to prepare a conciliatory measure.
The Earl of DERBY thought, if they consented to an
adjournment of the discussion it would be liable to mis-
construction. They ought to declare their adherence to
their own views, and leave any question of compromise
to after consideration.
Their Lordships then divided on the adjournment of
the debate; the numbers were--

Content
Not content

Majority spinet the adjournment ..... 12.

. -
Lord LYNDHURST then commenced the discussion on
the main question, by moving that their Lordships do
not insist on their amendments to the Oaths Bill.
Lord Dc Roe justified the exclusion of the Jews from
Parliament by their refusal to enter the naval and mili-
tary services of the country.
The LORD CHANCELLOR defended the principle and ob-
ject of the amendment to the Oaths Bill ; but remarked
on the nomination of Baron Rothschild to the committee
appointed to conduct the conference on the Bill with
their Lordships, that if it were • piece of pleasantry it
might be forgiven ; if intended to make a serious iin-
pression on the House it had failed, for it had been re-
ceived witliperfed indifference. He justified the denial
of political rights to the Jew, as a measure, not of reli-
gious persecution, but of self-defence.
Earl GRANNM,LIC urged Lord Lyndhurst not to divide
the House. He suggested that Lord Lyndhurst should
apply his powers to framing a measure like the one
hinted at during the evening, which would settle the
question for ever.
Lord LYNDHURST, thin appealed to, would not
divide.
The motion that their Lordships insist on the amend-
ments to the Oaths Bill was then agreed to without a di-
vision, and the House adjourned.

TUESDAY.
The Earl of CLARENDON galled attention to the
speech recently made by the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer at Slough. He alluded first to the statement
that when the present Government entered office war '
with France was not a qnestion of weeks or days, but of
hours. For that statement Lord Clarendon declared
there was not a particle of foundation, and before their
Lordshipe and the country he gave it a direct and un-
qualified denial. After noticing the contradictions
between the two defences made by the Chancellor of
the Exchequer in the HouseofComnions, Lord Clarendon
defended the policy of the late Ministry in introducing
the Conspiracy Bill, not ai the dictation of the French
Government, but by the advise of the law officers of the
Crown, for the purpose of remedying an evident defect
in the English law. Lord Clarendon did not wish to
deprive the present Government of any credit for its
conduct in the off air of the Cagliari; hut he reminded
the House that thelate Ministry, up to a late period, was
kept in ignorance of the real state of the cue. He
denied that the two engineers were neglected ; it wax in
consequence of strong remonstrances from the late Go-
vernment that their Melds and the Consul were
allowed access to them. 'The allusions in the speech to
• policy of "massacre and confiscation" Lord Clarendon
denounced as an ungenerots attack on Lord Canning,
made as they were four days after the despatch explain-
ing his proclamation had seen published, and after the
conduct of Lord Ellenboraligh, in giving publicity to
what was very far from a message of peace, had com-
pelled that Minister to an lot self immolation. As to
the assertion of the speech at the House of Commons
had defeated the intrigues • cabal, conspiring against
the Government, and composing "sources of informa-
tion" that were not constitutional, if a mere post
I prandird pleasantry it might he passed over ; but the
word and the oomparison were drawn from the very
worst period of English Hstory, and the public mind
ought to be soothed by a beak avowal of what was in-
tended by them, and who were the parties hinted at.
The Earl of Distal' thought if the speech of his col-
league had been deemed indiscreet, Lord Clarendon had
committed a much greate indiscretion in his present
address, by which he htd revived topics that were
better forgotten. He woula not criticise every word and
phrase in the speech at Slough, but all its main points he
was prepared to defend. lite thought if such speeches
were to be made the subjeit of debates equivalent to
motions in both Houses of Parliament, the members of
the late Government wer notjustified in complaining
of the "Page of • Min3ter of the Crown. even on
Port Pronaka cotweions. He would not defend every,
phrase of the speech of the Chancellor of the Exchequer
but though some of its leviese and expressions might
deserve • passing notios from those who disapproved of
them, he thought more he 4 been made of the incident
that was consistent with the dignity of either House
of Parliament.

Earl GRANVILLE justified the notice that had been
taken of the speech, and characterised the reference to
the Budget as vainglorious, since the financial policy of
the Government had only been the negative one of not
"muddling away money in paying debts," but postpon-
ing liabilities they had better have met in a bolder
manner.

The Earl of MALMESBURY thought it absurd for any
one to ask explanations of a speech from those who
never heard it.

After a few obwreations from the Earl of CLARENDON
their Lordships adjourned.

THURSDAY.

Their Lordships sat at 5 o'olook.
Earl St. GICRYANS called attention to the 'number of
questions on several difforer.t subjects of which notice
had for some time been given by Lord Kingston (who
was not present; none of those questions had been asked
and lie thought it was very inoonvenient to retain them
so long on the paper. •
The Earl of fdamtssitortv admitted the inconvenience,
particularly to the Government; but giving notice to
questions was • matter that must be left to the &sore•
tion of their Lordship.; in the present ease there wee
no remedy.
A short conversation took place on the subject, dur•
Ing which Lord CAMPBILL remarked that one of the
questions involved a charge against Elijah Brooke, and,
front the publicity given to the questions, that charge
woo circulating through the country without any
reply.
Lord BIDIUMALIN thought Earl SC Germane should
have apprised Lord Kinpton of his intention to refer to
the subject.
On the motion of the Lord Oxotrocut,og, the Non.
Parochial Register Bill was read a second lime.
The Chancery Amendment Bill was, "(tor some die.
elusion, read a second time, and referred to a seloot
committee.

--ri;;;;;Sr Narl Powie,
Tho Esti of CARNAKVON itoted 11110 the arrow
moots foe dividing the (Room of Now &eland wen
measly oomplited,
Tim Marquis of BRIJADAhIIANII pYI ricottas that he
should en Friday put a question to the Covernmont for
Olio purpose of asoertalnlng what are the relations In
million, matters betwoon blr Colin Campbell, the
Goomitor•Generid of India, and the CoinnuenderdsP
Chief,. _ . .

—Ear Lordships then adjourned,
FRIDAY.
Their tordehips eat at 6 o'olook,
The Seri of Decay moved the meond reading of the
Sale of Pollens Bill, Os °bled of whlsh is to render
more difficult the patellae' of poitionous drop i he cm
claimed the provisions of the Bill, with* are founded on
the recommendations of the eontmittee on the oubject.
Earl U cvlcc.u, Lord CAIIPSILL, Lord AVILAND.
and Earl Ilcunwtoke approved the °Wel of the mem
sure, and, with a tow easeptione, its &Malik
The Bill We. road a seeend time,
The Marqttle of BBIOALIAIIIO put the quect(on of
with& he had given 1101111fi.aa to the reletione in mill.
tory matters between Lord Canning aa Governor.
General of India, and Nl Colin Campbell al Commander.
in'Clilif of the army. Ile believed that an unwise inter.
ferense hy Methane in military &Miffs in India had been
one of the cameo of the rebellion, He quoted a plumage
from the letter of the epeeist eorreepondent of the Tina,
'm1)111'1'1)4 on Thumday last, to chow there WM a Weill
Impression In the Indian army that iffir 0011f1 Campbell
did not pouess unlimited authority and control of the
military operation.. Did they *loll to go back to the
days of the Mille Conned of Austria, when eampaigne
in Italy were planned In Vienna? If the statement in
the rilMlll wee correct, the great professional experience
of Sir Colin Campbell was lost to the country by the
interference of a civilian.
The Earl of DIRIT had never yet heard the Indian
tebellion attributed to the interference of civilian. In
military affairs. As to the relations between the Go.
vernor-General and the Commander.in-Chief, the former
must necemearilly be supreme ; but hie natural policy
would be, on purely military question' to defer to the
military authority; and that, no doubt, was the course
pursued by Lord Canning. But some military:opera
Bone, It was evident, had to be decided by other than
military reasons. Ile had no doubt that on such opera-
Mons the Governor-General and the Counnander.in.
Chief lied a full understanding with each other.
The Earl of ALBIEMARLIC was glad the rumours, which
certainly exlited, of • control exercised over the move-
ments of Sir Colin Campbell had been contradicted.
The Marquis of LANBDOWNY hoped the House and
the country would receive such reporta with great
caution. Vtrlien Sir Colin Campbell arrived in India
rumours were raised of differences between him and the
Governor-General, and those statements proved wholly
unfounded. No document or communication from the
Commender-in-Chief or the Governor-General gave any
support to the rumour, and from the character of both
those high officers, he did not believe that such differ-
ences ended.
On the motion of Lord RICDESDALE the Property
Qualification (of members of Parliament) Bill was read a
first time.
Their Lordships then adjourned.