The Stourbridge Observer, Cradley Heath, Halesowen & District Chronicle.
Stourbridge, West Midlands, England, 1876-08-05 00:00:00

irac STOURBRIDG-E OBSERVER

knew all about my Oaks. He had not a latch-key at
Leigham-court-road. It was in March. 1874, before we went
to the Priery. He had had a furnished-house before that in
In Degham-court-road. His present house on Bedford-hill
was taken before we went to the Priory. Ile did know before
he took it that we had arranged to go to the Priory. I was
in the Priory until lately. Before the marriage to Mr. Bravo
Dr. Gully was a constant visitor—he had lunch and he dined at
the Priory, He had a latch-key of the outer gate; and even
immediately before the marriage they (Dr. Gully and Mrs.
Ric- !do) were apparently fond of each other. He was
extt3meiy clever. While at the Priory Mrs. Ricardo
weti with Dr. Gully to Matlock, and I went
wire them. No servant went with us. This was in
September, 1874. We stopped in lodgings. I don't remember
the name of the place where we stopped We went from
there to Buxton; hut I eannot remember the street where
we lodged, or the crescent, if it was a crescent, or the name
of the people with whom we stayed in lodgings there. It
is on a hill. We stayed a week there. Mrs Ricardo and
I came back to the Priory, and Dr. Gully—(the witness
stopped and the question was repeated)—! think Dr. Gully
went to Worcester. We went to Italy last year—Mrs.
Ricardo, Dr. Gully, and myself. We left England in March
and returned the beginning of May. No servants were with
us. We went, vid Dover and Calais, to. Paris, Macon, and
Turin At Paris we stopped at the HOtel du Nord. At Turin
We stayed at an hotel. At Rome we stayect at the Intel
Bristol.
The Attorney-General : Now what was the demeanour of
these two peopledid they not treat ea,ch other as lovers ?
The witness gave'rio answer for a time, islet attempted to give
no answer, Then, at last, she said,—l think they were fond
of each other; there is no doubt of that. They kissed each
other. They did not speak about their prospective marriage.
Never, and never, in my presence, did they speak about their
plans in the future. They were not. often alone together—l
was there. They were occaisionally.
, The Attorney General : Perhaps you left them alone pur-
posely Y—Witness Well, scieetimes I had to go and see my
children.
The Attorney:General : But you did not have your children
In Italy ?—Witness: Oh there they were never alene. I
occupied the same bedroona as: Mrs. Ricardo .alwaYs. Mrs.
-Ricardo and Dr. Gully went nowhere else—l don't remember
that they did. Mri. Ricardo and I went to Brighton. Dr.
Gully did not go with us, but he came down. We were in
lodgings, in Sussex-house, in the ICing'is-road ; but I do not
knot* thenamebf the, people of the house. Dr. Gully then
went to an hotel: he did net stay at Sussex home. Ido not
remember any other visit we made. Oh, yes, I remember
we went to Sentinels: I think that would be soon after ere
went to the Priory, early is 1274. think we stayed there a
fortnight. Dr. Gully was with use No servants were with
us. We were in lodgings. I forget the address; the place
was nearly opposite the fort. I don't remember the
names of the people, the number of the house, or
the name of the road where we lodged. Dr. Gully and Mrs.
Ricardo did not live at these places as man and wife—cer-
tainly not. At the end of the fortnight we all came back to
.London together. I don't remember anywhere else we went
' to during the time we lived at the Priory. It was at Brighton
the engagement with Mr. Bravo was made—in October, 1875.
While! was with Mrs Ricardo she never stopped with Dr.
Gully at Bastbaurne-terrace, London. I lived there once
with a Mrs. Young. I think I stayed there in January, 1871,
before I went to Mrs. Ricardo. I had known the Bravo
family for years, and I am bound to them by ties of grati-
tude. This is so. In October I found that Mr. Charles Bravo
was pay,ing his addresses to Mrs. Ricardo. I did like Mr.
Bravo, and I was attached to the family, who were always
very kind to me.
The Attorney-General: Now, did you tell Mr. Charles
Bravo how fond she was of Dr. Gully ?—Witness: She did so
heaelt,
The Attorney-General: Did you tell him that Dr. Gully
was Mrs. Ricardo's lover—that they had been abroad
together 7—Witness: I understood from her that she had
told him.

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The Attorney• General Did you tell him?
Sir Henry James, apparently referring to the questions
being put rapidly, interposed and asked that the witness
should have time ta answer.

The Attorney. General (to witness): Did you tell the son
of your friend that on several occasions Mrs. Ricardo and
Dr. Gtully bad been abroad for weeks together 7 the witness
replied to the question, and repetition of it,—l did not tell
Mr. Bra= this because Mrs. Ricardo told me she had told
Moke to him upon the subject. I don't remember
sow what I said tp him. I told her to tell him every-
thing, and she told me she had told him everything. i know
he knew eve? ',thing, because he mentioned at. He did not
mention that he knew she had been upon the Continent with
Dr: Gully.
The Attorney-General then asked,—Do you think—and
you know the manner of man Mr. Bravo was—that if he had
kno #n as much as you have told us now that he would have
married Mrs. Wcardo I—The witness replied,—l believe he
would have married her. Besides what I knew m) self, I had
beard many rumours. I did not tell my friend Mr. Bravo of
these. I never listened to them—l judged for Myself. I did
not tell anything of these things I had heard or knew to
Mrs. Joseph Bravo I had communications with her about
the marriage, and I did not mention a syllable of there
things about her intended daughter-Mlaw. I did not because
Mr. Charles Bravo desired I should not. I did not tell
Mr. Joseph Bravo about the Mrs. Ricardo whom his son was
about to marry. I said nothing to him at all. There
was no quarrel between Mrs. Ricardo and Dr. Gully when
she met with Mr. Charles Bravo. She merely wrote to
Dr. Gully, in view of the engagement with Mr. Bravo, to
ghre up the acquaintance. This was in October, 1875. I
think this was before she had the engagement with Mr.
Bravo. The engagement was not made at Brighton, but at
the Priory afterwards. Dr. Gully was not at Brighton when
the acquaintance with Mrs. Ricardo commenced. Re came
afterwards. There was no quarrel between Dr. Gully and
Mrs. Ricardo—she only wanted to be reconciled to her family.
This estrangement distressed her a good deal. She told me
her family would not be reconciled to her unless she gave up
Dr. Gully. She told me so several times. She did tell me she
was determined to give him up in order to be reconciled with
her family. She did not tell me that it was to be married she
gave him up.

The Attorney-Genera!: Were you present at any inter-
view between Dr. Gully and Mrs. Ricardo at this time.—The
witness, after a pause, replied: At breakfast one morning at
Brighton there was an interview—it was to be the last inter-
view between them. He was to go away. He was very
much grieved, and she was very sorry. This was an arrange-
ment so that Mrs. Ricardo might become reconciled to her
'amity—not because there was any misunderstanding be.
weeu Dr. Gully and Mrs. Ricardo. I cannot give you the
date of this last meeting—this " breakfast interview."
At this time Mr. Charles Bravo had then seen Mrs. Ricardo. ,
and I had renewed his acquaintance. He was living at 113
in the King's-road, and had had two or three lodgings.
The presents of Dr. Gully were sent back when I came
baok to the Priory. There was a carriage full of the
presents sent bark. I think Mrs. Ricardo wore a portrait
of Dr. Gully. She had one or two portraits of him—l think
one was in a locket—one or two—perhaps she did
wear one of him in her bosom. I don't know why
the presents were sent back—it was thought better to
send them back. I was present at the marriage of the
deceased and Mrs. Ricardo. I heard that Dr. Gully and
Mrs. Ricardo had a "farewell interview" just before the
marriage. Mrs. Bravo told me some time in February as I
was away in January. She said she thoueht Charlie would
not have minded ller saying "good-by' to the Doctor. She
did not say she bitterly regretted having broken with him.
She said nothing of that sort to me. Griffith was living
at tire lodge, and Mrs. Griffith was the maid who went
abreed with Mrs. Ricardo and Dr. Gtaly. Although I was
so friendly to Dr. Gully I had no letters from him except
what I have said. Oh, yes, at Brighton, when the
" affair" was being broken ff ; I had one then. He wrote
to ma from Balhani. Not frequently; I think only once.
I have burnt the letter. I have no letters of Dr. Gul:y—
from him to me: none, except those (the " treatment.'").
As far as I can remember, I burnt the letter as soon as I
had read it. Mrs. B:avo ( Ars. Ricardo that was) never
told me she was afraid her husband would find out about
her previous conduct with Dr. Gully. I don't think she
was afraid of this, because I don't suppose she kept any-
thing back from him. She never told me she was in any
leer from her husband finding out anything. She was not
afraid of the scandals coming to his knowledge. She had
uo reason to fear, as she had told him everything. It was
in January, soon after the marriage, that the anonymous
letter came. He showed it to me. I did not read it all
through He showed it. to his wife. I cannot remember all
in it, There was something about Mr. Bravo marrying for
mon'ty a woman who had been Dr. Gully's "mistress,"
Kr. Bravo was very angry about that. He did not say he
did not believe it. He said he should like to shoot Dr. Gully
'for saying such a thing about his wife; that if she had not
told him about her acquaintance he would have been upon
'the sea that night.
The Attorney-General: Now, did you think from his
manner that he did not believe these statements—did
not believe such reflections upon his wife ? Witness :
I cannot tell you more than I have said. I do not re-
member Mr. Bravo being away from the Priory for a
night, except when his wife was away at St. Leonard's,
or when she was at Bascot. She went to St. Leonard's.
This was in March of this year. I stayed at the Priory at
the time she was away. It was either then or when he
went to Bascot I don't know that Dr. Gully went to St.
Lsainard's. I never heard of his going. I think she stopped
at the Marina, St. Leonard's. I had many letters from her.
I think they are destroyed. I don't keep letters; they are
of no use. I have given an account of all the intersjiews
I had with Dr. Gully since the marriage. He did come to
my house in Laucaster-road ; he came to leave the bottle and
' treatthent " for Mrs .Bravo. I took the book which was
left out of the presents to Victoria' and sent it back to him
at Balham, because I did not wish to send the servants or to
have it seen that there was any communication between the
two houses. I destroyed the "little note" that was in the
letter with the "treatment," but I read it to a friend. It
udt atter I had the 'treatment" tor ague that I had the
bottle. I think I got It on the Monday, the 10th of April. I
don't know why it was sent to Lancaster-road. I think I
told Dr. Gully I was goiag to Lancaster-road. I think his
likely I might have asked him to send the laurel water
ahere. I did get it there. I gave it to Mrs. Bravo. I
know "cerasee ;" but not as a drug, only as seeds. I
don't know that it is usually called laurel water. I don't
know what the taste is like or anything aboat it. I
did ehrow the contents of the bottle away. I left the bottle
on the dressing-table at the Priory when I went from there
to Brighton, and I did not ieturn. The bottle was very small;
it would not hold an ounce, I think—not a quarter of an
ounce. I threw the contents down the closet (smiling). I
don't know why I did that. I did not throw the label down
the elezet too. I washed it away. I made a statement on
the 2nA of June. I said nothing about the interview
with N. Gully, of the laurel water, or of the " treatments "
—I forgot all that ; I did not think of all that. When I
went to Worthimg on the lath of April I did not see any
one but relations on my way there and back. Mr. Bravo
had had neuralgia, but I dons remember that he had "bad
nights," and complained that he could not get sleep He com-
plained of pain. I know he uied laudanum and chloroform
,--I think both he used. I saw him take one out of a cup-
board in Mrs. Ricardo's room. There were many bottles
there, both of homceopathic and other medicines. When
I bought the " cerasee " Mrs. Bravo did not put it in her
cupboard. I took it upstairs. I think, if I remember
rightly, that I kept it in her room that nieht and took it
up the next day. At the dinner on the 18th the deceased
was annoyed about his father's letter, and about his father
having opens I the letter Re said, " write him a
' shirty' letter." His annoyance did not wear off. I took
up the wine and water for Mrs. Bravo. I remained behind
alter Mrs. Bravo to get it. I forget whether it was sherry
or Marsala. I got a tumbler half full: She drank it in her
dressing-room ; she drank it all. It was after that that she
had more brought her by laseber—a tumbler of Marsala.
I was going to sleep in that •room, but I was going to un-
dress in my room, I heard no cries until J.eeber came,
and I went at once to Mr. Bravo's room. I don't know if
Keeber went with me; I don't know whether she followed
me or whether site did not. When I got there Mr. Bravo
was standing by the window. It was there he was when he
said, "I've taken poison for Dr. Gaily. Don't tell
Florence." He did look dreadfully iIL I don't know
where Keeber was. This was said immediately after I came
into the room. He then called for hot water. I had asked
him how he could do such a thing, and he then screamed for
hot Water; Ile was sick out of the window after he had
called for hot water. He had had the mustard and water
befoSt he was sick in the basin.' It might have been
an minutes after that he was sick 'in the basin, for
the mustard had to be mixed. When he made that state-
ment I thought he bad poisoned himself. I did not think he
was in a precarious way because, as he was sick, and I smelt,
the
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carefully entered on the depositions.) I never thouaht he
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asked
taken anything else but chloroform. I gave Kseber
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instructions to take away the vomit. I gave the emetic to
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upon it.
the Attorney-General: And that being your object, and he
having been sick, why did you cot save the vomi,
lIFe Sir Henry James iuterpo.,ed with a request that the
Attorney-General's words in his questions should not be
embodied in the answers in the depositions, and the
Assessor replied that he had not given question and answer
throughout, and that this course had been adopted through-
out.
Abe Attorney-General repeated his question, and the wit-
ness replied that the deceased might have a clean basin if he
was sick again.
e
Tit, Attorney-General : Were there no other basins or vessels
In the room, and did it not strike you that, as he had told
you that he had taken poison, it would be well for the medical
ne
_plumes the Tomittib ; - • • •
Toe witness replied There were other basins and recep-
Rettb in the room, but I never thought of them. Mr. Bravo
had toll me he had taken "poison,' but it did not occur to
me that it was important to save the vomit. I had no
plyisftst in sending the basin. Why should I send it away?
'object could I have ( the counsel—Sir H. James,
'ott Parry, and Mr. Murphy—demanded that the
should be stopped for these woad/ to be taken

r down.) She then proceeded,—l quite thought It was
chloroform he had taken; that's why I gave him coffee to
keep him awake. I could not account for his saying " Don't
tell Florence," except to save her any pain. I under-
stood that he took poison because he was jealous of Dr.
Gully. I thought that that was his idea; that was the
impression upon my mind, that he had taken poison because
he was jealous of Dr. Gully, not because he heard stories
about his wife, but because he was jealous. I thought that
--it was my view that, though he had taken poison in
jealousy of Dr Gully, he did not wish her to know. At the
time of this assertion of his taking poison she did tot come
into the room—afterwards she did. It was about ten or
twelve minutes after I had been in the room with the de-
ceased that his wife came, but I can't tell how long it was.
She came after the mustard and water was administered. I
sent for the doctor (Mr. Harrison) immediately after I saw
that the chloroform bottle was empty. I don't think it was
five hours after the deceased told me, he had taken poison
that I told the doctors first. Dr. 'Johnson and Mr. Reyes Bell
did not come till half-pest two in the morning, certainly, but
I had told Mr. Harrison thatt he deceased had taken chloro-
form I think I told Mr. Harrison the deceased had taken
"poison," I remember calling Mr. Royes Bell out of the
room and telling him Mr. Bravo said he had taken poison.
That was after two o'clock in the morning. After Mr. Harri-
son had told me it was not chloroform the deceased had
taken, it is my impression that I told Mr. Harrison that
the deceased had said he had taken "poison." I wrote to
Mr. Harrison afterwards telling him I thought 1 had told
him so. Mr. Harrison says I did not, but I thought I did.
I told him the deceased had taken chloroform. I don't
remember Mr. Harrison asking me more about it—what it
was, dr any more about it. The fact was that chloroform
was so impressed upon my mind that I thought it was that.
[The evidence of Mr. Harrison was read over. Sir Henry
James continued reading the first part of Mr. Harrison
evidence, saying that Mrs. Cox did not tell him more than
she was sure deceased "had taken chloroform," and the
latter part saying that the impression she left upon his
mind was that the deceased had taken chloroform in a
poisonous dose.) I told Dr. Johnson what the deceased had
said.' I don't remember that the doctors complained that I
had not told them before. I have already stated why I did
not tell Dr. Moore when he first came, and I tell you that
I told Mr. Harrison—or I -thought so—that the deceased
bad taken "poison." I did tell him that the deceased bad
taken chloroform. I did not know the man was doing; I
still hoped the effects would pass off. Mr. Harrison did say
be did not expect the deceased would liver ong. I think f
told Mr. Royes Bell a quarter of an hour after he came. I
did not tell him at once because they were examining the
deceased. The doctors, in saying I did not tell them for
half an hour after they came—Dr. Johnson and Mr. Rues
Bell—must, I think, be mistaken. I did not think about
their giving him an antidote for poison. Sir Henry James
had the notes examined as to the evidence of Dr. Johnson
on the question of time, and it was found that that witness
said that the statement was made about halt an hour after
they arrived. I told the doctors ab ait his vomiting out
of window directly they came. I told them that. I saw
hat the docte rs were examining bottles for an irritant
poison, to find what the poison was that the decease I had
taken. They looked at the bottles in the room; but I don't
remember coat they asked me about the poisons in the
house. When I called Mr. Royes Bell out of the room
Mr. Bravo was recovering conscionsness. lam quite sure of
that. Mrs. Bravo and myself had left the room. I don't
remember that Dr. Johnson or Mr. Royes Bell had saisi
anything of Mr, Bravo's chances of I,fe. I did not tell
Mrs. Bravo about Mr. Bravo having said he had taken
poison until after Sir William Gull had been there (on
Thursday). Dr. Johnson did speak to me and Mrs. Bravo
together on Wednesday night, and Dr. Johnson referred to
deceased's expression. Mrs. Bravo did say upon that,
"Has he said he has taken poison f 'but I do not think she
understood it fully. Dr. Johnson was speaking upon my
statement as to the deceased's having said it, but she was
so exhausted and tired that I do not at all think she under
stood what it was. She did turn and say 'Does he say
so ? " I answered that he had said so, and I got Mrs. Bravo
to lie down directly after that. I don't remember wheu I
told her all about it. I did tell her before I went to the
Treasury. I told Dr. Dill, at Brighton, before Mr. Bravo
was buried, before the second y's inquest (the quashed
inquiry). It was the third day of the illness that I saw Dr.
Gully. I told him the deceased said he had taken poison,
and that the deceased had said, "'Don't tell Florence;"
but I did not say that he had said he had taken it "for Dr.
Gully," That is all I said. Dr. Gully did not say when I
went to him why he had taken poison. He may have said
so, hut I cannot remember all he said; he asked me the
symptoms. It is likely he did say something else, but that
is all I remember of that interview. I think I threw away
the laurel water on the Sunday or Monday after the death.
Of course, this was before the inquest, because that was on
the Tuesday. The bottle was labelled "Poison," but the
doctor said in his little note that / need not be alarmed at
the word "Poison ;" that though it was labelled," Poison"
there was nothlng very strong in the bottle.
The Attorney-General : If the Doctor—Dr. Gully—said this
to you, and these questions were arising, don't you think it
was very foolish of you to throw the contents of the bottle
away.
uWitness:
capbeiie
knewWell,was Idia
ginotg to
destroykmuc t—xt
h laboutre.
and Mrs. Thomas Campbell—at least lam not sure that it
Robert The
was mentioned befare Mrs. Robert Campbell. Mrs. C.
Bravo also knew of it. Mr. and Mrs. I. Bravo were not
told of it. I did not think it was worth while to tell them.
The first time I mentioned it was to Mr. Brooks—when I
was sent for. I did not think it worth while to mention it
at the Treasury. I knew it had nothing to do with this
cue. The inquest was concluded on the 28th of
April, and Mrs. Bravo went to Brighton on the Wednesday
following to the lodgings I had taken on the 26th, when I
went. 1 went on the 26th to take a furnished house. I
accompanied her to Brighton on the 28th, and we went to
this furnished house No. 88, Brunswick-terrace. I
went to Dr. Dill on the 26th of April. I told him that
Mr. Bravo had said he had taken poison on account
of Dr. Gully. I had not told any one before tha of
that—that he had taken the poison "for Dr. Gully." I
told Dr. Dill of this because she (Mrs. Bravo) was under
him when she broke off with Dr. Gully, and he had advised
her strongly to break off with Dr. Gully. Dr. Dill thought
her reputation would be insured by the thing being spoken
of, and shortly after—on the 28th—we went down to
Brighton, taking all the servants but the butler. We stayed
there five weeks. During the time I was in Brighton, I did
not see Dr. Gully. I have not seen him since the Thurs-
day (20th of April). I had a letter from him, saying how
sorry he was at the death, and offered his sympathies to
Mrs. Bravo. I showed the letter to Mr. William Camp-
bell sad destroyed it. Ido not remember that it was talked
&NSA my making a statement. I told Mr. Campbell and
Mr. Brooks about Mr. Bravo having mentioned Dr. Gully's
name when he said he had taken poison. I spoke to them
the day before I made my statement to the Treasury.

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The Attorney-General asked the Coroner what time the
Court would rise, that being the usual time.
Sir Henry James said the jury, no doubt, would sit a little
longer it the Attorney-General could finish his cross-exami-
nation.
The Attorney. General replied that he should have a few
more questions in the morning.
The Court then rose.

The inquiry was resumed on Tuesday for the sixteenth
day. The order of the coroner for the exclusion of ladies
and children had been obeyed to the letter, and when the
proceedings commenced the court was not less densely
crowded than on previous occasions with gentleman alone.—
Tie examination of Mrs Cox by the Attorney-General was
resumed.—We take the following account of the day's pro-
coatings from the Globe :
'Dm Attorney-General : You went to Brighton shortly
aft, r the first inquest ; was it before or after the funeral?—
After.
What day was it you went ?—On the Ist of May. I went
down before to take a house. It was after the funeral Mrs.
Bravo and I went down together. I think the funeral was
on the Saturday, and we went down together on the Wednes-
day following.
Were the Campbells in the house from the death to the
time of the funeral?.—Mr. and Mrs. Robert Campbell were
there. Mr. W. Campbell was there for some time. I think
Mrs. T. Campbell was not there after she spoke to me about
the bottle. I think it was after we arrived at Brighton that
I told Mrs. C Bravo Mr. Bravo said he had taken poison for
Dr. Gully. I knew he would see Dr. Dill, to whom I had
communinted the statement.
You had told her that Mr. Bravo had said he had taken
poison ?—After she knew it from Sir W. Gull we had some
conversation about It. She heard Sir W. Gull say he had
taken it.

Before you went to Brighton there was some conversa-
tion in the house about the sad affair 7—lt was spoken
about, of course. We all wondered where he got the
antimony.
Did anybody suggest that antimony was kept in Mr. J.
Bravo's atablesf--Not at that time, bat I heard it suggested
afterwards. If I remember rightly Mr. Campbell said Mr.
I. Bravo told him there was antimony there. That was not
before we went to Brighton. I don't remember Mrs. C.
Bravo mentiming it, but it might have been mentioned. I
don't remember any particular conversation about it with
her.
During the speculations where the poison had been
obtained from, was anything suggested about Mr. and Mrs.
C. Bravo's stables 7—l remember Fasten being asked
if he had any in his stables, and he said he had never
used it.

Mrs. Bravo had several horses, had she not 7—She had a
pair of cobs of her own, and a pair of hired carriage horses.
She was very fond of her horses. The stables were at the
Priory. Sometimes she would go to the stables and pat them,
and sometimes she would give them an apple.
She had these horses some years?-1 think she had the
cobs when I first went with her in 1872.
When did Griffiths leave ?—Ele had left before I went with
Mrs. Bravo. He was there spin when we were at the Priory.
He left the second time quite at the commencement of January,
1876.

Did Mrs. Bravo ever say anything to you about physicking
the horses when they were iii 7—No ; never.
You stayed, I think, with Mrs. Bravo, you said, at Brighton
about three weeks ?—About five weeks. After that I went
to Banasworth, near Birmingham, and Mrs. C. Bravo went
to Busc3t.

While you were at Brighton were any of the Campbells
there f—Mrs. W. Campbell came two days after we went
there and remained until we went to the TreaEury ; and her
father and brother also had been down during the visit:
. .

Was it suggested by the Campbells or any one that you
should go the Treasury and say what has been mentioned as
to Dr. Golly /—No ; Mr. Campbell telegraphed for us to come
to London. _

VVas it not suggested that either you or Mrs. Bravo should
make a statement as to Dr. Gully P—Mrs. Bravo and I thought
we shoald be called up, and Mr. Campbell said we ought to
make a statement as to what we knew about it.
Had it been mentioned that Mr. Bravo could have no
motive for committing suicide unless it was for Dr. Gaily 7
Yes; and there were other things mentioned also. The con-
nection he had before his marriage, it was thought, might
have had something to do with it. Mrs. C. Bravo knew
about that. I know it was said that Dr. Gully was the cause
of his committing suicide.
Was it mentioned by anybody that the Treasury must be
Informed what he had said as to Dr. Gully P—l think it was
said that it ought to be known what he had said.
Or else it might appear to be an afterthought 2—No, certainly
not On the 2nd of June I made a statement to the Solicitor
of the Treasury. I told Mr. Brooke before that the particu-
lars, and he had written it down. The statement produced
is what I dictated and it bears my signature.
The Attorney• General put in the statement.
Dr. Gaily wrote to you when you were at Brighton 2—lt
was immediately aftetr Mr. Bravo's •death. He sent the
letter to the Priory, and it was forwarded to me at Brighton
byt be butler. I old not keep that letter. I have one or
two letters which Mrs. Bravo wrote to me when she was at
Kissingen. There is no address to the lettera, simply
Kissingen. The dates are August and September, 1873.
After you Went to Brighton do you know whether Dr:
Gully was at Brighton !—Not to my knowledge after Mr.
Bravo's death.
Were you at Dr. Gully's on the Saturday before Mr.
Bravo was taken 1117—No, I was there on the Thursday
More the death, and that was the only time.
You told me Mr. Bravo was standing at the window when
-you went into the room. Did he vomit before or after he told
you what you said P—After, and I fancied I smelt chloroform.
He told me what I mentioned immediately I went into the
room. I was standing by him when he was sick out of the
• window

Was Keeber in the room at the time P I did not notice her.
gave him the camphor after the mustard and water, but I
am not sure whether it was after the coffee. I gave him a
few drops of camphor in about halt a tumbler of cold water ;
the camphor was in a liquid state. I got the water either
from the drawers orl Mary Anne gave it me. I don't remem-
ber which. I gave the Camphor because I thought it intzht
do away with the effects of chloroform. I have of ten taken
it miself in illness and for sickness. I don't remember Dr.
Gully ever recommending me ti take it. I took it us a stimu-
lant. I have taken it for faintness.

Mr, Bravo was is his night shirt ?—Ye, he was. When he
vomited, some of the mustard emetic got on his night dress,
Thst was when I gave him the ciAfee and mustard. float was
whbri he war sick in the basin. I don't think any of the
vomit got or. to his night shirt. Be could not swallow the
coffee, and it /an down on to his night shirt. Ills night shirt
was changed before the doctors came. I suppofe the servant
took the night shirt away. I heard nothing mere of it. In
ordinary course 1,1 would go to the washerwoman. I don't
kn,,w who she vas. Seeber had the management of the
linen.
Y.ou remember calling Mr. Itoyes Bell out of the room
Yes, and he wen; to Mrs. Bravo's dressing room, and there I
told him that Dir. Bravo said, "I nave taken poison don't
tell Florence." I called !Ana out for the purpose of telling
him that. I iad told Mr. Harrison that he had taken
chloroform, but I did not tell him that Mr. Bravo told me
not to tell Flcrence. My impression was that when Mr.
Harrison said it was not chloroform, that I then said Mr.
iravo told me that he had taken "poison," or "some

poison." I repeated Mr. Bravo's exact words to Mr. Bell,
with the exception of Dr. Gully's name.
Did you see Irspector Clarke at Brighton ?—Yes and he
had a cou'veraation with me about this matter. I did not
tell him anything about Dr. Gully.
The Attorney-General put no more questions to witness.
Mr. Lewis: When was the engagement between Mr.
Bravo and Mrs. Ricardo commenced ?—I think it really com-
menced on the let of November, when Mn. J. Bravo came
down to the Priory after our return from Brighton.
I suppose you had some conversation with Mr. Bravo before
the engagement?— I
From these conversations were you under the impression
that Mx. Bravo 'oelived Mrs. Ricardo had a criminal con-
nection with Dr. Gully P—l knew that Mr. Bravo was told
everything by Mrs. Ricardo.
Q uestku repeated—No.
From those conversations with him did you believe that
Mr. Bravo before his marriage with Mrs Ricardo believed
her to be a chaste woman ?—Yes. at that time. _ _ _

You had spoken of her to him 7—l had spoken of her in the
highest terms of her disposition and kludness, and of her
being able to make him happy.
Had you spoken of Dr. Gully to him at the time—Yes I
had, and he told me that Mrs. Ricardo had told him all about
Dr. Gully.
And you tell us you thought he believed her to be a
chaste woman; did you create a suspicion in his mind ?
No.

Were you keeping anything back from him? —No, cer-
tainly not at the engarrement
Did; you keep anything back I—Yes, after the engage-
ment.:
Was it before the marriage f—He knew everything before
the marriage.
What was it yon kept back from him 2--I kept back from
him what Mrs. Bravo told me after giving up her acquaint-
ance with Dr. Gully.
What do you mean by that? What was it she told you?—
Of hr intimacy with Dr: Gully.
What was it she told you?.- I don't remember the words.
Did she tell you of her criminal intimacy with Dr. Gully?
—Yes. You will remember that I had not any idea of any
wrong intimacy at Mrs. Bravo with Dr. Onlly before that.

When did she tell you that?—On the day before leaving
Brighton, and I urged her to talks'''. Bravo, which she did.
_

You mean the thit to Brighton before the lilarriage 7—Yea,
in the autumn.

Did you hear her tell him f—No, I did not; but he spoke to
me on the subject. He told me she had confessed to him
that her intimacy with Dr. Gully had been criminal. He told
me that at Palace-green. I made a statement to Mr. Brooks,
but I did not tell him that. I have told Mr. Humphreys, my
solicitor. I did not tell Mr. or Mrs. Campbell, or Mr. W.
Campbell. I told my solicitor this morning about it.
Did you ever tell anybody before this morning that Mr.
Bravo mentioned to you that he knew of the criminal
Intimacy t—l don't think so. I mentioned it at Brighton
atter Mr. Bravo's death to a ady there. I had much rather
not mention it. I will write down the name and address.

Mr. Murphy objected to the name and address being given,
and said that Sir. Lewis had before obtained Mrs. Cox's
address, and the consequence was that when the came to
this court she had a series of letters, one of which contained
a gibben, with Mrs. Cox hanging from it That WU quite a
terrorism, which ought not to be practised.
Mr. Lewis said it was his intention strictly to perform his
duty regardless of consequences to anybody, and as far as he
could to elicit the truth,

The name and address were written down by Mrs. Cox and
handed to Mr. Lewis. _ .. . ..

It was a relative of Mrs. Ricardo ?—Yes. I mentioned it
to another lady. (Witness also wrote down the name and
address of the second lady) I did not rifenti.n it at the
Treasury.
Did you say at the Treasury, on the 2nd of June that you
believed the acquaintance was innoci* —I did not desire to
bring forward Mrs. Bravo's name any 'o3ore than was neces-
sary. I did not state it to Inspector Clarke.
In December, did you have conversations with Mrs. J.
Bravo before the marriage about Mrs. Ricardo alter you left
Brighton f—Yes. _ _

Did you tree this expression to Mrs. J. Bravo, "that Mrs.
Ricardo was everything that was good f"—Not that I re-
memeer. I thougot she was everything that was good with
the exception of that one thing, and that Mr. Bravo Lyrae;
quite aware of.
I understood you to say that you considered yourself under
deep ties of gratitude to Mr. and Mrs. J. Bravo ?—Ye!, I
spoke of Mrs. Ricardo in favourable terms. I considered it
was Mr. C. Bravo's duty to speak to his mother. I pressed
both Mrs. J. Bravo and Mrs. Ricardo to wait until the
spring, as I thought they ought to know more of each other
before the marriage. I never pressed Mrs. J. Bravo to con-
sent to the marriage.
Did Mrs J. Bravo say that if Mrs. Ricardo's fortune were
millions instead of thousands that she would not be accept-
ante to her as a daughter-in•law f—l have not the slightest
recollection of her saying so. I knew that Mrs. J. Bravo
was averse to the marriage. I cannot remember any par-
ticular words Mrs. J. Bravo used which convinced me that
she was averse to the marriage.
Did you tell her she would make an excellent wife I—Yes,
and she did make an excellent wife, and on his death-bed
Mr.'Bravo told his mother that she had been one of the best
and:sweetest wives to him.
Had you the same affection for Mrs. Ricardo after the
marriage h—Yes.
After she confessed to this adulturons intercourse t —Yes ;
you cannot compel your affections to change.
Did you consider it an adulterous intercourse P—l did not
think it so until you used the word now. I knew Dr. Gully
wee a merited man. I had no idea at the time the
Attorney-General referred to yesterday that there was any-
thing of a criminal character in the intimacy.
For how many years did Mrs. Ricardo tell you that she had
been on these terms with Dr. Gaily f —Once.
Where h—When she was away at Kissingen.

Did you not understand the Attorney-General to ask you
yesterday the tErms upon which they lived at Kisaingen ?
I did not know at the time of the terms on which they were
living.
Why did you not say so yesterday ?—I did not know of it at
the time they were at Kissingen.
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The witness complained that Mr. Lewis was asking her
qussticus harshly.
Witne.s : I meant to keep back nothing that I was asked.
She never told me that they passed as man and wife at
Kistiogen. I was very much shocked when Mrs. Ricardo
told me this. The visit to Kissingen was, I believe, in 1873.
I had seen them kissing each other in 1874 and 1875. I never
saw him walking about the grounds of the Priory with his
arm around her waist. Is was alter I went to live with Mrs.
Ricardo that I first knew of their (51rs Ricardo and Dr.
Gully's) engagement to be married after the death of Mrs.
Gully. Dr. Gully visited Mrs. Ricardo occasionally when
she was living at Mr. Brooks' in 1871. From Mr. Brooks'
house they went to Italy together.
You remained with Mrs. Bravo until her marriage. Had
you observed her habits of intemperance ?—I observed that
she occasionally took more wine than was good for her health
when ate was tired or very much exhausted. I noticed that
habit at Leighani-court-road and the Priory.
Did you mention that to Mr. C. Bravo ?—No, I don't think
I did, nor to Mrs. Bravo.

Cannot you fix the date of Mrs. Ricardo telling you of her
intimacy with Dr. Gully 7—lt was quite the end of October. fl
might have been the day or day before we left Brighton for
Balham.
Was there any break between Dr. Gully and Mrs. Ricardo
until after the aivances of Mr. Bravo f—l don't remember.
D. I understand that it was in consequence of Mr. Bravo's
advances to marriage that a break took place 7—No, it was
not : It was because she became anxious to be reconciled to
her family. During the autumn she heard of her mother's
health, and she was anxious for a reconciliation before the
vlsit to Brighton
As a fact it was broken off at a period when Mr. C. Bravo
was nearly engaged to be married 7—lt was broken off early
In October, before Mr. Bravo began to pay attentions to Mrs.
Ricardo.
Mr. Lewis referrel to the letter sent by Mrs. Ricardo to
Mr. Bravo on the 21st of October, in which she said she must
never see Dr. Gully again.
Witness: Though I have read that letter. I do not think
it was in consequence of Mr. Bravo's advances that the ac-
quaintance was broken off. It muet have been just after the
letter was written that Dr. Gully came down to Brighton and
had breakfast. I was no present at the interview between
them, but I was present at the breakfast. I think first Mrs.
Ricardo had an interview with Dr. Gaily at the station. I
came up to town, and en the way back Dr. Gully was at the
Croydon Station, and travelled down with me in the same
carriage. He spoke to me about the letter he had received
from Mrs. Ricardo, and said he should go abroad.
At the time was he told that Mrs. Ricardo contemplated
marriage cannot remember whether he was told then or
afterwards. I don't remember that I told him so going down
in the carriage. I know no reason why I should not tell
him.

Did you telegraph to Mrs. Bravo of the train you were
coming by I—No, but she was aware of the train I was wining
by, and she came to meet me. Mr,. Ricardo and Dr. Gully
had an interview at the station, and I remained in the ladies'
waiting-room. After the interview he went into Brighton
with us to where we were staying in the King's-road. He
slept that night at a hotel, but I don't remember which.
Did he dine with you f-1 don't think he did. I cannot
remember. I don't remember his going out walking with us.
I don't remember whether he remained in the house all day.
Mr. C. Bravo was in Brighton at the time, staying with his
parents at the New Steyne. I believe afterwards Mr. Bravo
knew of Dr. Gully having been there, I believe that from
what Mrs. Rtcaroo told me, I always found Mr. Ricardo a
very truthful woman.
At this time Mrs. Ricardo was on bad term,' with her
faraily t—No, the reconciliation took place before the engage-
ment with air. Bravo. D:. Gully came to the house the next
morning while we were at breakfast. He came to say good-
bye to Mrs. Ricardo, as he was going away that morning. He
might have been there that morning an hour or an hour and
a half. I thir k Dr. Gully was very angry with me about that
time, and he was annoyed with Mrs. Ricardo about the
acquaintance being broken off.
Did he blame you 7—Yes, I think he did.
What did he say 7—He wrote me a very angry letter. I
cannot remember the words, but I can give you the substance
of it. He expressed himself very much annoyed about the
acquaintance being broken off. Very shortly afterwards he
wrote me a sternal letter, saying how sorry he was that he
had expressed himself so harshly. Neither of those letters
exists.
Did you allow Dr. Gaily to leave Brighton without any in-
formation as to the engagement 7—l don't remember what
was said to him. I would tell you if I did. The reason that
was given to Dr. Gully for the breaking off of the acquaint-
anceship with him was the illness of lire. Ricardo's mother,
with whom she whaled to he reconolled. Dr. Gully was
aware of the intended marriage shortly afterwards, but how
soon I don't know. I don't know howl knew that he became
aware of the fact. He might have heard it from me, but I
don't remember whether I told him or not, and he might
have heard it from Mrs. Ricardo. It was alter this visit of
Dr. Gully to Brighton that Mrs. Ricardo confessed to her
intimacy with Dr. Gully. I believed Mrs. Ricardo's state-
ment that the intimacy took place only once. After we re-
turned from Brighton Mrs. J. Bravo came to the Priory. At
that time Me. C. Bravo appeared to be passionately
attached to Mrs. Ricardo; she seemed to like him very
much.
So soon after her acquaintance with Dr. Gully P—Yes. She
said he was of an exceilent disposition and cheerful. I am
sure when she knew more of him she became very much
attached to him. She told me that her attachment to Dr.
Gully ceased with the separation. I have heard from
Mrs. Ricardo that Dr. Gully was 67 or 68 years of age last
year.
Mr. Lewis: So that he was about 62 or 63 when you first
knew him, and Mrs. Ricardo was 19 in 18C4.
Witness : It was at Palace-green that Mr. Bravo showed
me the anonymous letter after the marriage. Mrs. Bravo
was ill at the Priory towards the end of January, and I
returned there the last day of the month. I found her in her
bedroom.
During that illness, did he treat his wife with every affec-
tion 7—Yes.
Was that illness after the anonymous letter f—Yes. He
showed that letter to Mrs. Bravo and to me. I considered
it a very open way of dealing with us both.

Was he not perfectly furious —He was very angry. He
believed Dr. Gully to be the author of the letter, and said
that he should like to go down and shoot him. I don't re-
member his saying that if he could discover the author of
the letter he would punish him. I heard that he spoke of
it to Mrs. Bravo's mother in his indignation, and that I
considered was very open dealing. I think at that time
Mrs. Cimpbell believed the intimacy between her daughter
and Dr. Gully to be innocent.
Did not that letter assert that a criminal intimacy had
occurred between Mrs. Ricardo and Dr. Gaily I—Yes. Mr.
Bravo spoke of the intimacy between them before his
marriace. Mr Bravo asked me if I thought there was any
probabdtty of her ever going wrong attain ; that was his ex-
pression. I said, "Oh no I I should think not '' Mr. Bravo
said, "1 think a woman who has once gone wrong is likely to
be all the more particular afterwards.' I think "more par-
ticular. " are the words he said. This was said at Palace
green during stir stay there before the marriage. No one
was present except Mr. Bravo and myself.
The court then adjourned Icr luncheon.
The examination of Mrs. Cox by Mr. Lewis was continued.
At the time you state Mrs. Bravo made this statement to
you, what terms were you on with Mr. Bravo? I used to see
him very often at Palaceireeu. At that time I was com-
panion to Mrs. Ricardo at a salary of £BO a year. That was
before the marriage. Wnen I went to Mr. Brooks to make a
I.statement Mrs. bravo was Lot present, nor was I present
when she made a statement. She did not tell me afterwards
'what her statement was.
tMb She at any time tellYoU that the Was about te make, Or
had made, a statement th 6-4-, her intimacy with Dr. Gully was
an innocent one ?—No, sho never did. I am not aware that
she made that statement, because I never read it. I knew
that she had made a statement to the Treasury, but I did not
know what it was. I don't remember Mrs. Campbell having
spoken to me about Mrs. Bravo's intimacy with Dr. Gully
after Mr. Bravo's death, or that I represented It to be

lan innocent one. Mra Campbell told me she
! wished I had never asked Dr. Gull,' for anything.
When the conversation took place about my visit to Dr
Gaily about the sits baths, &c., Dr. Gully's nam,
was not mentioned about anything else. I never t )1d bertha
I thought the intimacy harmless, nor did I represent to her
that it was au Innocent intimacy. Imy have told Mrs
Campbell that my idea was there was no wrong intimp,e)
between Mrs. Ricardo and Dr. Gully, beosu.e that was what •
believe,l at the time Dr. G:nlyw lain the h thit of coming to se,
Sirs. Birqtrda I knew to the contrary at the time I told Mrs.
Campbell. After the anonymous letter Mr. Bravo treated
tilt wito with the greatest affection. I don't remem'er any
one passing at the time Mr. Bravo stopped me and insisted
on my opening the letter from Dr. Gully. In FebruarY
and March Mr. a..d Mrs Bravo were happy, exceut
when he was in a temper. She was naturally, rather
passionate, but I think she did everytniug she could to con-
trol her temper and make everything as smooth as she could.
The wine, perhaps, had the effect of making her a little more
irritable. I was aware Mr. C. Bravo very much objected to
her taking so much wine. Mr. Bravo was not aware that Dr
Gully travelled to town in the same carriage, but I thought
it would vex him to no purpose. I don't know that he was
aware that Dr. Gully called at my house in Lancaster-road,
or that I had taken Dr. Gully's book up to town, and sent it
by train to Dr. Gully.
Was he aware that In April Dr. Gully had suggested sitz
baths and spinal washes for his wife —No.
Did you intentionally conceal the introduction of the laurel
water bottie from him f—l did not tell him about the inter-
view. I did not conceal it from him, for if I had told him 0,
the nterview I should have told him of the oerasee bottle
and the washes as well. There was no intention to conceal
it, but I did not think it necessary to tell Mr. Bravo, as it
would only have irritated him for no good. I concealed his
having given me the bottle just as I did about the baths and
the interviews. It was intentional. Mr. Royes Bell was in
attendance on her at that time, but I don't think he came
down from the Thursday until the Sunday. Mr. Harrison
was not in attendance during his absence. Mr. Royes Bell
was not informed of the fact of the Introdnc,fion of the laurel
bottle. Mrs. Bravo may have told him of the sitz baths. I
never told him. There was no necessity to tell him about the
cerat,ee as it was never used.

Mr.Setjeant Parry called attention to a letter of lire,
Bravo to her mother, of the 16th of April„ in which Mrs.
Bravo said she had taken sitz baths and spinal washes.

Witness: I am not aw tre that at the time Mrs. Bravo
told her mother that Dr. Gaily recommended her sits baths
stad spinal washes. Dr. Gully did not, at my interview in
Apriltr-!thow soy disposition to be angry with me or to Om,
me Dr. Gully travelleti in the same carriage, and kindly
sent me the treatments. I do not remember whether we
shook hands. il9 acted with kindness towards me, and I
thought it a kindness of him to send a treatment for Mrs.
Bravo. I never told him of Mrs. Bravo's confession to

me;
Was there anything that occurred at dinner on the 18th
that would account for his committing suicide know of
nothing to account for it. . know he was annoyed about
the letter he had received. When Mrs. Bravo and I went
upstairs that night we left Mr. Bravo downstairs in the morn-
ing-room. About twenty minutes or longer elapsed before
he went upstairs. During that period Mrs. Bravo and I were
upstairs. When Keeber came up Mrs. Bravo was undressed.
During the twenty minutes Mrs. Bravo and I were alone
upstairs. We were quite alone in her dressing-room, Keeber
or the other housemaid might have been upstairs in the
other room. During that time I never left the dressing-
room. I did not look at Mr Bravo's door to see whether it
was opened or closed. I should think not more than one
water-bottle was kept in Mrs. Bravo's dressing-room, and she
had a larger one in her bedroom, which she used for the
night. Mary Anne used to take it in the last thing at night.
Had Mrs. Bravo taken more wine that night than was good
for her health P—Perhaps rather more than she ought to have
taken. I saw Mr. Bravo go out of Mrs. Bravo's dressing-
room; I did not see him go into his own room He came
Into the dressing-room and complained of having wine
brought up to-her. I don't remember whether I heard him
close his door. Is far as I knew no one had been upstairs in
his room until he came into his wife's dressing-room; and as
far as I knew Mrs. Bravo and I were the only persons up-
stairs. Mary Anne had coma up previously with the hot
water.

liow long elapsed should you think from the time oft Mr.
Bravo going to his room and Keeber coming to you with the
news of his illness? —Between ten minutes and a quarter of -
an hour, I should think.

When you went to him, was his door open or closed
Open, wide open. He was standing by the window, midi t
was whilst at the window, he said he had taken poison.
Reeber had called me. I did not notice her stknding by the
side of the open door. She came with the hot water when
next I saw her. I may have called to her to brli g the hot
water, hut I don't remember. I don't know wh.ther she
went to fetch it in consequence of Mr. Bravo calling for It:
she mast have heard him call for hot water, because she told
me that he had been calling for it.

Supposing Keeber to have been standing at the open door
of Mr. Bravo's roonf; could she have seen Mr. Bravo at the
window 7—Yes. I have read Keeber's evidence. I don't
know how soon Keeber came after me to the door.
From the position Keeber was in looking at him at the
windows could she not have heard the words he spoke to
you?—Mr. Bravo spoke to me in a not very loud voice. I
would not swear Keeber was not there. Assuming she w,as
there, I don't know whether she could have heard or Sot
what Mr. Bravo said to me.

tan you entered the room was there any syringe in the
ro7—No, not that I know of. The next person who
entered the room after Mrs. Bravo was Dr. Moore.
_ _

_
Did he ask questions of Mrs. Bravo and you 7—Yes, he
must have done.

Did you say this to him, that you heard him calling aloud,
that you went to him, that he complained ot pain, and
that you gave him mustard and water to make him sick I—l
have not the slightest recollection of saying that. I did
tell him that I had given Mr. Bravo mustard and water.
I told him that he had been sick out of the window, and
that I had given him mustard and water. I also told him
about putting his feet and hands in mustard and water, and
also about the mustard platsters. I never told Dr. Moore
tnat he was subject to fire of faintness or spells of faintnese
at times, nor did Mrs. Bravo ever say so in my presence. I
think Mrs. Bravo told him about the horse having bolted
with Mr. Bravo, and I think it is very likely we told him that
Mr. Bravo was annoyed about the letter relating to stocks.
I think Mr. Harrison art iv,d about a quarter of an hour or
twenty minutes after Dr. Moore.
During that time did you ever once direct Dr. Moore's
attention that it might be a case of poison 7-1 did not. I
don't remember directing his attention in any way to his
having taken poison. Dr. Moore said before Mr. Harrison
arrived that 1 had done everything I possibly could for Mr
Bravo before he arrived, and, further, that he thought it was
a very serious case. Dr. Moore asked me wnat toe vomit was
like And I told him I thought it was ordinary food. It
hat been thrown away before Dr. Moore arrived. I
don't remember Dr. Moore saying that he could not
understand what Mr. Bravo was suffering from. While
Dr. Moore was there it is very likely that Keener
and Rowe were in and out of the room. The next person
who arrived was Mr. Harrison, surgeon. I never said to him
or to any one that I heard Mr. Bravo calling out, and that I
then went to him. When he came into the house he asked
me what was the matter. I told him that I found Mr. Bravo
vomiting out of the window, and I sent for some mustard
and water, and that he vomited again, and I concluded by
saying, "I am quite sure he has taken chloroform." I don't
remember saying anything more to Mr. Harrison beyond
giving him the mustard and coffee. Mr. Harrison then went
upstairs and attended on Mr. Bravo.
Shortly after his arrival did Mr. Harrison say that Mr.
Bravo's life was in dangerf—Yes, that he was dangerously

He was there for some hours before any other doctor
arrived ?—I don't know how long. Dir. Royce 801 l arrived
between two and three in the morning, and Mr. Harrison
arrived between ten and eleven o'clock in the evening.
During that time did Mr. Harrison and Dr. Moore ap-
pear anxious about Mr. Bravo's life?—Yes, they were very
anxious.
Daring the whole of those hours did you direct their atten-
tion to his having taken poison 1-1 am under the impression
that I told Mr. Harrison that Mr. Bravo said he had taken
poison. I knew Mr. Harrison said I did not tell him what r
have said, but that does not at all affect my impression. I
think it quite possible that on a night like that I may not
remember all that took place.
When did you first hear that Mr. Bravo had denied that,
he had any conversion witlryou about taking poisoni?—l
heard early on the Wednesday morning that he would not
admit having taken anything. I never heard that he
denied speaking to me. I don't know that I was told then
that he had said he had taken laudanum. If I remember
rightly, Mr. Royes Bell told me that Mr. Bravo said he did
not recollect telling me anything. I don't remember what
Dr. Johnson said to me; it has really gone out of
my mind. Mr. Bravo was recovering consciousness
a little when Dr. Johnson came; he was moving about
but I don't think he knew me. I was not present in the room
on Wednesday morning when prayers were said. I did not
hear him express a wish to make his will. I don't remember
getting some paper for that purpose. I was in his room
several times on the Wednesday. I understood from Sir W.
Gull that Mr. Bravo acknowledged to him that he had taken
poison. Ear W. Gull told him that he had taken poison, and
his answer was that what he had taken he had taken himself.
On the Friday morning he died.
Do you still feel great affection towards Mrs. Bravo?—
Yes.
At the first inquest did you swear f sisely ?—I don't con-
sider that I swore falsely. I slid not tell all I knew,
Would you have thought it wicked to have sworn falsely
—I never thought of myself. I thought of Mrs. bravo.
At the first inquest I thought I withheld only that part of
the statement made by Mr. Bravo to me which had refer-
ence to Dr Gully. On the Wednesday morning he
asked me, "Does Florence know that I have poisoned
myself ?" and when I stated that at the first inquest
the coroner asked me if he said anything subsequently.
I was repeating what Mr. Brave said, Why did you
tell them?" when I was interrupted by another question. I
mentioned it to Mr. J. Brain] on the morning oi the second
day of the first inquest, and I told him then that I had not
been able to finish the conversation I had commenced. Mr.
Bravo said to me, "If you say that, it will be at utter
variance with what he said on his death•bed." Holding back
Dr. Gully s name at the first inquest was perhaps not truth-
ful. I withheld those words for Mrs. Bravo's reputation sake;
she was not aware of it.

You have most eminent counsel hers; is it at your own
expense /—I don't think ills necessary to answer that.
Mr. Murphy: In the interests of ttuth answer that clues-
tion, Mrs. Cox, it is my advice.
Witness: It is not at my own expense. When I went to
Brighton after the death I did not think that any one in the
house was suspected of having caused his death. I know
that Mr. J. Bravo said after Mr. Bravo's death, and speaking
of the humseopathie medicines, that the house was full of
poison. That did not strike me as if he had suspicions of any
one in the house. I did not understand from Mr J. Bravo
that he did not believe his son had committed suicide.
There was no reason whatever, only his own mistaken
reason, which he gave, why he should commit suicide.
Except the statement that you say he mace to you do you
know of any reason whatever why this gentleman should
have committed suicide f —No.
Letter handed by Mr. Lewis to the vritnesss.
Is that your haudwritingt—Tes.
And it is as follows :—lt is addressed to the coroner.
writes"Prioryie Baaalyhatmha,t
sAhperilwish23eradt,helBl7n6q.u—e
inquest hCehharelleds
at
the
Priory, where she will have refreshments prepared for the
Jurors."
,
You wrote that letter i—Le. J. s at the dictation
hoft3iiirws.eßuircia_the•o.
Both Mrs C. Bravo and
bettor to have it held at the house.
her husband was mitering from poison
sstd,
because
she
was
Were you present when Dr. JohnsontToldy3r,
hßaratv
loatehealt
think she at all understood whet w
ghtehristotoolike pdloawcen
directly after. It was in the early e
very much excited and tired, andmalorgeoint
By Sir H. James: I went to live with Mrs Iticardo on the
7th of August, 1872, and continued to live with her until alter
went to Buscot in charge of her mother. During
she weet to Brighton after her husband's death. She left
there n
my salary at first was £BO, and it was afterwards
the haoledtime I was with her she treated me with invariable
4100, and that went to the principal suppert of my
rkainiadendetses.
boys.
Rightly or wrongly, did your feeling of gratitude towards
Mrs. Bravo cause you to wish that the clrcum3tances of
her connection with Dr. Gully should not be known more
than was necessary f—Yes, it was that entirely.
I suppose as soon as you lived with Mrs. Rioardo you
observed this sad habit of her drinking "more than was good
for her health," as you term it P—Yes.
Did you learn from her that she acquired that habit during
the lifetime of her first husband 7—Yes,
Did you also learn she had suffLred much wretchedness
from his c mullet towards her 7—Yes, I did.
Ihd he use violence towarde her P—Yes.
That she sometimes had to leave him on account of that
violence P—Yes, that she had left him on ace nnt of that
violence. I learnt that he sometimes went 8.114 from her
without assigning any reason for going. Re had attacks of
delirium tremens from excessive drinking.
And it was when she was placed in this position with
reference to her tint husband that she acquired this habit of
drivaiug 7—Yes.
You understood from her that her acquaintance with Dr.
Gully was a reason, but not the whole reason of her estrange-
ment from her family 7—Yee.
There was a bill in chancery filed against some merriesr of
her family with reference to the settivment of her first mar-
Maw, f—Yes.
At any rate the estrangement was complete for some cause
or the other 7—Yes.
And apart and beyond the estrangement from her family,
did you find-she had very few friends to associate With?
Yes, very few.
Dr. Gully you hiss said was a man: who was,very agree.