The Stourbridge Observer, Cradley Heath, Halesowen & District Chronicle.
Stourbridge, West Midlands, England, 1879-07-12 00:00:00

IMPrERIAL 'PARLIAMENT.
In the ROUSE OP '4OI4ItoRS, July 5, Sir Robert Peel, asked
-412_ right bon• genfilesnan the Chanceller of the Exchequer a
lmeatlJn respecti,sg the report they had heard that day. It
w
heth
tag ter the. Government had any information condrm-
wayope report that Lord Chelmsford had informed Cote-
propeLrnla that he would actually refuse to entertain any
h°` Peace until certain things removed from
The Y the Zulus have been restored.
hiruselir 40elllor of the Exchequer in reply said be had not
aware th iceived any information to that effect, and was not
~44 any such information had been received.
clone oonse then went into committee en the Army Die-
which 1.11, resuming its consideration et Clause 131, on
areet7er . Sullivan had, when progress wait last reported, an
twewt ent to secure that in respect to military prisoners
eerheY• five stripes should not be exceeded in the case of
al punishment, Mr. Cross having moved to substitute
7v.es" for "stripes' in the amendment.
ran. Chamberlain asked Mr. Cross to withdraw his amend-
orz.st, in order that a division might be taken on the
e. -glnal amendment as it stood. An inspection of the
, eats " had led him to the conclusion that the committee
Ilad been misled in the matter, and that the punishment was
aiore severe than the House had any conception of.
neUr. Cross failed to see how the general question of
to in the army could be discussed on a clause relating
e maintenance of dircipliue in military prisons.
declaroPwood hoped the Government would make a clear
atlon of their intentions in this matter.
Colonel Stanley was sure the committee would believe that
,It° 0,5.5 only actuated by a sense of duty to the army. He
161,11 ed that there was a monopoly of humanity on one side
0' the House. It would be impassible to maintain discipline
a the service if the authoTities did not possess stringent
Powers tinder special ciemmstances, and he asked the corn-
accept the usukance that when the schedules were
rieatted he would make, a full statement—a statement which
r:tiel°Ped would be rAatisfactory, bearing in mind that the
te. ntion of corpora, punishment in the 8111 had been agreed
isis
great.o W. alter. having watched the discussio with
n erer4 believed that the time had arrived whet this
. s
th e. could be relinquished with advantage both to
arne,
desh. and the country. (Opposition cheers. It was
abnpah4o to raise the standard of the British soldier, and the
.41)r1 of the "cat" would, he was certain, materially
• 4tribute to that end. (Cheers.)
‘,24. Sullivan's amendment was then negatived, and that of
Cross agreed to.
(41/r. Parnell moved an amendment to prevent the infliction
oral punishment in military prisons.
• Cross was perfectly willing to place soldiers in the
So Position Position as other prisoners. For any light offence
-tging would not be inflicted, but It was absolutely neces-
i—r. for the protection of warders that the power to impose
tee:r4o,Ptiniahment should be reserved in serious oases. Fur-
ass that he could not go until he saw the nature of the
h;"runiendations of the commission which was now inquir-
e into the question of prison discipline.
Str4letission ensued, in which Mr. Biggar, Sir Robert reel,
arttlelot, the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Mr.
parf7"s. Mr. Forster, and several other hon. members took
and eventually Mr. Parnell's amendment was withdrawn.
;,514-r,, • Parnell moved another amendment, to secure, in the
4:10f a soldier dying in prison abroad as well as at home,
tialhe independent inquiry into the circumstances of
as takes place in regard to deaths in prisons in the
Dited
, Kingdom under the Prisons Act of 1875.
""r. Cross pointed out that there were no coroners in
Einudlas; but, if the words "as far as possible" were Intro-
he would be disposed to accept the amendment.
Tbe'amendment was, with this modification, agreed to.
at,'laille 131 and the succeeding six clauses were agreed to,
re.rr the proposal, and withdrawal, after discussion, of
"Ely 'mall amendments.
eultit_a quarter put seven the Committee had with much dila.
reached clause 141,when Mr. Parnell moved that progress
rePorted. Ile Government refused, and alter a long die-
the motion was rejected by a majority of 76 to 5.
motions were repeated by Major O'Gorman, Mr.
'ear. •R. Mr. R Power, and others, always with the same re-
sult, to
tiring this episode, which lasted for some time, much
.and confusion prevailed—there were frequent calls to
and occrulon al collisions between individual members.
attempts were made to count out the Committee,
tem kately progress was reported, at ten mutes past
sett '4 in
Clause 0 0:n Sunday morning, on Clae 147, the House having
° 0. vett hours.

tu_
*tit HOUSE OF LORDS, July 7, a discussion on the con-
ned disturbed state of Ireland and other matters occupied
".mir
' lordships for some time,
thill„a Summary Jurisdiction Bill, which had come up from
,ommons, was read a second time.
tv,lll. other business on the paper having been disposed of,
-I°clockL Ps lordshiadjourned at twenty-five minutes to eight
.
t
to he HOUSE of COMMONS, Sir M. Hicks-Beach, in answer
to a question from Mr. H. Richard, said that the latest in
I,,klation as to the overtures from Cetewayo was contained
be telegram from Lord Chelmsford, in which he stated that
informed Cetewayo that as a proof of his being in
:'„ext he must send in the two seven•pounders and the
toe,;', and arms taken at Isandiana, and that a regi-
arn,". Must march into the camp and lay down
wa—vni as a token of submission lending Cete-
pea" answer, military operations would be stop-
hoz'il and if he accepted the terms a cessation of
ttnitities would be ordered pending a discussion of the
Inn tePr" of peace. Sir Garnet Wolseley was invested with
discretion over the matter, subjeet to the general
a'z'rections he had received that it would be his first duty to
;31isernine carefully all the overtures he might reoelve, and to
5b15 rage any bonct fide proposals which afforded a reason-
-8 --08Pect of a satisfactory peace.
everni
to questions by various members having been replied
the Orders of the Day being reached, Colonel Stanley
i;• linced that, after further consultation with his col-
cZnes and the military authorities, he had come to the
it:to asion to propose that corperal punishment should be
ffted to those offences which, under the provisions of the
Nvere punishable with death.
absequently, the House having gone into committee on
Aziny Discipline Bill,
re.,Chamberlain took an early opportunity of moving to
Tg/21".x progress in order to protest against this decision.
oropression convoyed by Colonel Stanley's words on
thblirday—that he would make a statement satisfactory to
• I!.°llse—was that he would give up flogging altogether,
" wax on the faith of that assurance that he had with-
Wn ids amendments.
any°°*l Stanley emphatically disclaimed having conveyed
teach assurance. What he said was that he hoped to
Z:j" 5._ a statement which would be satisfactory, and he 11ex-
refused to be bound by any interpretation whieh
=Rut be Put on his words. He contended that he had now
tufted his promise, and he believed that the statement he
wki Made would be satisfactory.
_A debate ensued, which continued for several hours, and
walott was for the most part a repetition of the arguments
pro and con on the question of corporal punishment.
_A division was taken on the motion to report progress,
wulon Was negatived by 250 to 36.
Snb sequently, however, progress was reported on the
motioU of the Chancellor of the Exchequer.
House was counted out at a quarter to three o'clock.

thlnthe HOUSE OF LORDS, July 8, on the second reading of
'University Riucation (Ireland) Bill, the Earl of Kim-
rteY and Lord O'Hagan said the Bill would not be a solu-
'°U of the difficulty.
Lorfi Cranbrook replied that the legitimate issue of such
°Pinion should be A motion to reject the Bill.
rrhe Earl of Leitram thought the Bill, though inadequate,
Would notwbe altogether useless.
tjhe Earl of Donougbmore and Lord Inchiquin hoped that
.e Government would make some further concessions.
vI14„ M Spencer said that during the five years of his
a,,;,'"oYalty in Ireland he had the advantage of hearing the
13v.`utons of large numbers of Irishmen on this question, and
tie Waa of opinion that the Bill was wholly inadequate to
et the necessities of the case.
n.. Lord Powerscourt desired to add his testimony as to the
-es4titY for an amendment of the Bill by the granting of an
endowment.
Lord Salisbury observed that the Government knew what
going on in another place, and they felt that the
per• "Y of a large and comprehensive measure on Irish Uni-
sit), education would be tenfold greater than that of any
11111411 Y Bill. He was afraid that they must be satisfied in
ocealle with bit by bit legislation, and for the present be
,tent with removing a wrong which had been much corn-
f.
Ei ar
ad • Granville regarded the measure as inadequate to the
flitted grievance.
...Tile Lord Chancellor :said while the Government could not
`4lsent to anything in the nature of denominational endow-
13,__Yet U the Senate of the new University were next year
to itlx for a grant for scholarships and exhibitions, similar
~
e ,"""e given to the University of London, no objection
tilzvda..rrabe. taken on the ground of endowing a denominational
y.
Aft.
PA..* a few words from the Marquis of Ripon, the Bill was
a second time.
111 th
Boni ...OUSE OF COMMONS, at the Morning Sitting, after
• ,?e satther business had been transacted, the House pro-
ton v?,,,,A further to consider the Army Discipline and Regula-
oto fri Committee, and clauses up to 165 were agreed to,
Dieting part 4 of the BilL
the
Evening Sitting Mr. S. Lloyd moved a &solution
'"'oUr of combining' those functions of the Executive
a 1,"z6r,Uttielit which relate to Commerce and Agriculture in
sef,inct department, under the direction of a Principal
ThirzeitrY of state, who shall be a member of the Cabinet.
State, *?.., showed, was the system pursued in the United
titons itx ranee, and other foreign countries, and in former
flatten hstd prevailed here also. But at present, he said,
aria relating to Trade and Commerce were distributed
2,013 the Privy Council Office, the Home Office, the Local
i"Ze_rnment Board, and the Foreign Office, and the mischief
taning from this confusion was felt in all directions. For
Matt ce, if we had had one Minister responsible for all
oe.n:re relating to Commerce, there would not have
ron"red so many delays in passing a Bankruptcy Bill, Corn-
Treaties would have been negotiated on terms more
be'n,F,abrie to this country, and the commercial classes would
tor _sible to obtain the information which was necessary
Mr&wiz business.
. un-
thou ~enan seconded the motion. Mr. Newdegate
MLitt' Commerce and Agriculture might each have a
at
th or allotted to them. Mr. W. E. Forster had arrived
A„, 6 COUCIUISIOU, after long observation, that Commerce and
Gc7,:,teclttire would not receive proper attention from any
o.„lrnrnent unless they were represented by a very high
After In the executive.
ch. some further discussion, the Chancellor of the Ex-
tho-4,4„e!, remarked that much of the commercial greatness of
,rlf Was owing to its freedom from Government
pre„; 'nt"uou and management. While admitting that the
eatabl-t - BY're
was far from perfect, he deprecated the
' ent of a new department, which would
on'al'ilYshinte become overworked and create new difficulties
as great as those now complained of. He recognized
~,..zyttilte obligation of the Government to facilitate in every
gladl e operations of Commerce and Agriculture, and would
s'" Inake any practical arrangements for the purpose;
Re,L.lO Objected to be hampered by such a resolution as this.
"°Ped, therefore, that it would be withdrawn.
In the
14. , course of the debate which ensued, Mr. W. Holms,
Stewart, Mr. Hubbard, Mr. Pell, Sir T. Aciand, Lord
aandon, and Mr. S. Lloyd took part.
W. H. Smith pointed out that it was quite impos4ble
D edge future Premiers as to what Ministers they should
or
fute into their Cabinets, and moved the omission of the last
Ivs di of tho, liwsolution relating to these two points. This
was suPPost-Abby Mr. Cross, Lord ; Elcho, Sir W. Barttelot, old otterk; lint Air. Lloyd was supported in declining it by
Forstet, Elr. Monk, and Mr. Chaplin.
Ultimately, on a division, Mr. Smith's amendment was
neßatived by 71 to 65, and the original Resolution was
carried on a second division by 76 to 56.
The other Orders were disposed of, and the House ad-
Nulled at a quarter peat one o'clock.

PRAYER FOR FINE WEATHER.
The Archbishop of Canterbury has forwarded the subjoined
Letter to the Bishop of London :
" Lambeth Palace, sth July, 1879.
"M 7 dear Lord,—At the request of both Houses of
`l°llvocation of the Province of Canterbury, I write to
beingyour lordship's attention to the necessity of prayer
Deing offered to Aftuighty God for such weatheras may
enable our people to gather in an abundant harvest.
It would seem very desirable that each Bishop of
the Province should, at his discretion, urge upon his
!lser.gy the propriety of petting apart some Sunday in
'l!nich the attention of their people may be specially
directed to this subject. And I shall feel obliged by
net lortmip tang the usual steps to make this, my
..-21413., known to our brethren in their several dioce.es,
ren, your lordship's faithful servant,
(Signed) "A. C. CANTILUt.
" Tile Lord Bishop of London."

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