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Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1855-07-10 00:00:00

THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD.

PARLIAMENTA..RY INTELLIGENCE.

HOUSE OF LORDS.

TUESDAY.

THE LATE LORD RAGLAN.—After the Clerk had read her
Majesty's most gracious message, informing their lordships
of her intention to confer a signal mark of her favour on the
widow and heir of the late Lord Raglan, Lord PANMURE
moved an address, in answer to her Majesty's message, and, in
doing so, reminded the house of the distinguished services and
glorious career of the soldier whose memory they were now
called on to honour. In his death it might be truly said that
all England had to lament the loss of an intrepid soldier, a
great commander, an accomplished gentleman, and a noble
and distinguished citizen. The address was, as usual, the
echo of the message.—Lord DERBY said he was most anxious
to take the earliest opportunity of expressing his concurrence
in the graceful tribute which Lord Panmure had paid to the
memory of the gallant commander whose career had shed ad-
ditional lustre on the annals of the noble house from which he
sprang. Of his military qualities it would ill become him
(Lord Derby) to speak, but he would assert that few men
placed in the position recently filled by Lord Raglan would
have so completely overcome the difficulties and embarrass-
ments of a divided command, and thus consolidated the feel-
ings of mutual confidence and goodwill which happily existed
between the allied armies. In conclusion, he begged most
cordially to support the address.—Lord HARDINGE, after an
intimacy of fifty-six years, was most anxious to bear testimony
to the great merits of Lord Raglan, whose powers and abilities
he was convinced were much higher than they were commonly
supposed to be.—The Duke of CAMBRIDGE and Lord CAR-
DIGAN declared their conviction that Lord Raglan had evinced
great tact and capacity in a most difficult position, and were
followed by Lord GALLOWAY, the Duke of BEAUFORT, Lord
ELLESMERE, Lord GRA Nvmx, and Lord BROUGHAM, each of
whom spoke in the highest terms of Lord Raglan's merits.—
The motion was then agreed to nem. con.
The Friendly Societies Bill, and the Woolmer Forest Bill
were read a third time and passed.
Their lordships adjourned at twenty minutes to seven
o'clock.

The Burial of Poor Persons Bill and the West India Relief
Loans Arrangement Bill passed through committee.
The Union of Contiguous Benefices Bill, the Ecclesiastical
Jurisdiction Continuance Bill, the Commons' Enclosure (N 0.2)
Bill, and the Treasurers of Counties ( Ireland) Bill were read
a second time.
STAGE CARRIAGES DIITIES.—The house went into com-
mittee, and the CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER moved reso-
lutions, upon which to found a bill to reduce the duties on
stage carriages from lid. to ld. a-mile, and the supplementary
license to is. The alteration would cause a loss of revenue of
not less than £50,000. The resolutions were agreed to, and
the house resumed.
The Lunatic Asylums and Regulations Acts Amendment
Bill was read a second time.
The Public Libraries and Museums Bill passed through
committee.—The house adjourned at three o'clock.

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LORD DUNDONALD'S SCIIEME.—In answer to a question,
Sir C. WOOD said, that the plan was referred to a committee,
and was so very obvious that it required no explanation on
the part of the Earl of Dundonald to render it perfectly
intelligible.
TEE RIOTS IN HYDE PA.RK.—In reply to a question whether
it was the intention of the Government to grant an inquiry
into the conduct of the police in Hyde Park on Sunday last,
Sir G. GREY repeated what he had said on Thursday, that in
the case of any specific complaint of the conduct of the police
he should feel it to be his duty to institute a strict inquiry.
He had received a very large number of representations on the
subject, some of them complaining of the misbehaviour of the
police, others describing their conduct as marked by modera-
tion and forbearance. Facilities were afforded for remedy
against the misconduct of the police ; at the same time, he was
willing to institute a searching investigation into any allegations
brought before him.—A conversation ensued, in the course of
which Mr. G. DUNDAS said:— So we are threatened with another
demonstration next Sunday, and men are to go armed in order to
defy the authority of the police ! I hope that the right hon.
baronet will take efficient means to prevent any such collision.
I may remind the right hon. baronet that prevention is better
than cure, and I will go further, and say that nothing will
frighten a mob more than the crash upon the pavement of the
trail of a 6-pounder. (Cries of " Oh, and some sensation.)
The subject shortly afterwards dropped, but was subsequently
resumed by Mr. ROEBUCK calling the attention of the Chair
to language employed by Mr. G. Dundas, which he character-
ised as unworthy of an English gentleman, and of the house to
listen to.—The SPEAKER ruled that the language excepted to
should have been noticed immediately.—Mr. G. DUNDAS ex-
plained the meaning he intended to convey by the expressions
he had used. _ _ _

MAILS TO AIISTRALIA.—In reply to Sir J. PAKINGTON,
Mr. WILSON stated that the arrangement made for the con-
veyance of the mails to Australia by way of the Cape of Good
Hope had been abandoned, but that the contract for the con-
veyance of a mail by way of India every other month was
merely suspended in consequence of the Peninsular and Ori-
ental Steampacket Company being unable to procure vessels
to replace those on Government service in the Black Sea. A
proposal had been made by the Admiralty to that company
at the request of the Treasury, to convey the mails by way of

India to Australia every month, but the company werewait-
ing the return of some of their vessels before giving a reply

to Government.

Questions and answers on various subjects of like impor-

taw were exchanged.
MICHINERY.—A motion for the production of correspon-
dence between the Secretary of State for the Home Depart-
ment and certain magistrates of Oldham, on the subject of a
prosecution before the said magistrates of a manufacturer for
having on his premises unfenced machinery, from which
neglect the death of an individual resulted, was, after some
discussion, agreed to.
THE VIENNA CONFERENCE.—Mr. M. GIBSON asked for ex-
planations from the Government relative to the opposition of
her Majesty's ministers to the views of their colleague, the late
British plenipotentiary at the Vienna Conferences, in reference
to the plan proposed by Austria to be submitted to Russia
for the purpose of putting "an end to Russian pre-
ponderance in the Black Sea," as stated in the
circular addressed by Count Buol to the diplomatic
agents of Austria, dated Vienna, May 25. He read a
passage from Count Buol's circular, and expressed his
belief that Lord J. Russell went to Vienna with a bona fide
intention to make an honourable peace ; but that his col-
leagues appeared to have entertained different views, and to

have desired to avoid the chance of peace. How could he,
then, reconcile the retention of office with the statements he
had declared at Vienna ? If he had changed his opinion, let
him frankly avow it. He cautioned the First Minister that
a day of retribution would come ; the Administration had,
he said, sacrificed the flower of the British army, as well as
millions of the public money ; they bad concealed from Parlia-
ment facts material to guide its opinion, and the course they
had taken was calculated to bring great disasters upon the
country, which would visit them upon their heads.—
Lord J. RU-SSELL referred in detail to the consultations at the
Congress respecting the mode of solving the third point, in
which Count Buol admitted, he said, that the best mode was
to obtain from Russia a limitation of her force in the Black
Sea ; but he suggested that there was another mode—that of
strengthening Turkey, instead of weakening Russia. Ulti-
mately he proposed that there should be a stipulation for a
counterpoise of forces, whereby, if Russia increased her naval
power in the Black Sea beyond its then dimensions, England,
France, Austria, and Turkey might augment theirs in propor-
tion:; and, further, that there should be a treaty by which.
Austria, Great Britain, and France guaranteed the indepen-
dence and integrity of Turkey, Russia being made a party to
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Russia the alternative either to consent to this proposition,
'or -to limit her naval power in the Black Sea, and that,
if Russia refused, it should be considered a. cases Belli.
His honourable colleagues in her Majesty's government,
however, came to the conclusion that the proposition did not
afford a safe basis for further negotiation. To the question
why, after this, he remained a member of the Administration,
he replied that if he had left office on this decision he should
not have acted consistently with the rule which had always
guided his conduct ; and that, whatever might be his senti-
ments upon this great question, he thought it to be his duty
to continue his support to the present head of the cabinet, and
not, by quitting office, weaken its stability.—Mr. COBDEN
expressed his grief and surprise at the speech of Lord J.
Russell. The complaint was that when he returned from
Vienna he promised to do his best to induce the government
to agree to a proposition which he approved, and that he had
not informed the house that the terms submitted by
Austria had his approval. Instead of telling the house
frankly what was his opinion as to the great question of
peace or war, he had made speeches denouncing the en-
croachments of Russia, the effect of which was to make the
country believe that he had come from Vienna despairing of
any termsof peace, while he knew right well that lie had come
back bringing a proposition which he had told Count Buol he
would advoeate in his Cabinet. Lord Sohn had, he con-
sidered, abandoned his trust by not resigning office when he
found he tould not carry out his views, and he looked upon his
conduct with the more regret from the danger to which his
example exposed the cause of representative government. He
advised the house not to be frightened at the prospect of a
change of ministry ; he would infinitely prefer that the other
side should be in power, and he looked with regret at the
vote he had given which displaced the ministry of Lord
Derby, a change which had cost the country, in his opinion,
100 millions of money and thousands of lives.—Lord PAL-
MERSTON defended the conduct of Lord J. Russell and the
course taken by him, and, with reference to the proposal of
Austria, the governments of England and France had given
to it their most anxious and earnest consideration, and had de-
cided, not hastily or upon light grounds, that it did not furnish
that real security for peace for which they were bound to look.
He reviewed the transactions of the war on the Danube, in the
Baltic, and in the Black Sea, and in the Sea of Azoff, observ-
ing that the result was that the territory of our ally had been
evacuated, and we occupied an important position in that of
Russia. With regard to the regret expressed by Mr. Cobden
that the government was not in other hands, he felt assured,
he said, that the country would support no Administration
that would not carry on the war with vigour and conduct it to
a successful issue.—Mr.Roentrex observed that there were two
matters involved in this discussion—one the character and
conduct of Lord J. Russell, the other the wisdom of the war.
On the first he concurred with Mr. Gibson and Mr. Cobden ;
on the second, he agreed with Lord Palmerston. He examined
the conduct of Lord John Russell in relation to the Aus-
trian proposal, considering it to be inconsistent with
the perfect honesty of a public man.—Mr. DISRAELI
said that evening would be memorable for the unex-
ampled revelation made by Lord J. Russell, who had ad-
mitted that, employed in the high position of Minister Pleni-
potentiary to negotiate on the subject of peace or war, and
having arrved at a solution of the difficulty, and accomplished
a result that would secure peace to the country, he returned
to England, and, strange to say, finding no sympathy on the
part of his colleagues, who determined upon the prosecution
of a war which, in his opinion, ought to have terminated, ac-
ceded to their suggestions, and remained, in a Cabinet of War,
a Minister of Peace. The reasons he had given for this ex-
traordinary course were no less singular than the course itself.
The country, however, ought to consider the vital question,
whether we were to have peace or war; the question ought
not to be an open one in the Cabinet, which, in either
case, ought to be unanimous, or there could be no chance
of vigour or efficient action. The effect of that night's
debate would have an evil tendency. The impression
in the Cabinets of the continent, however, must have been
that when our Plenipotentiary accepted the Austrian pro-
position he represented the mind and policy of his own Ca-
binet. Why did not his colleagues ratify his labours ? When
a minister of the cabinet was sent to negotiate a peace, and
succeeded, and, although his labours were not ratified, remained
in the cabinet, the house had a right to expect from a govern-
ment so situated a frank explanation of the reasons which in-
duced them not to accept the result of his labours. Mr. Dis-
RAELI concluded by saying :—"And this is the end of this im-
portant session—this is the end of breaking up so many
governments—this is the end of your great national intentions,
great national disasters—this is the end of the government, at
the head of which you were to have a minister of surpassing
energy, and, no doubt, transcendant experience—this is the
end of the ministry which was to put the right men in the
right places—this is the end, that even peace and war have
become mere party considerations,that the interests of the coun-
try are sacrificed to the menace of a majority, and that the
tumults and turbulent assemblies of Downing-street are to
baffie all the sagacity of all the conferences of Vienna."-
-Sir G. GREY complained of the erroneous construction put
by Mr. Disraeli upon the statement of Lord John Russell,
who had not said, as had been assumed, that he had brought
over a proposal assented to by Russia; on the contrary, the
principle of that proposal, involving a limitation of the naval
power of Russia in the Black Sea, Russia had declared she
would never accede to. He denied that the Cabinet was a
divided one. They were unanimous in considering the war
just and necessary, and in the prosecution of it they were a
united Cabinet.
The house then went into a Committee of Supply, but the
chairman immediately reported progress.
The Merchant Shipping Act Amendment Bill went through
committee, with some unimportant amendments.
The Bills of Lading (No. 2) bill, the Endowed Schools (Ire-
land) bill, and the West Indies Relief Loans Arrangement bill
were read a third time and passed.
The house went into committee on the Gold Wedding-Rings
bill, the object of which was to restore to gold wedding-rings
the stamp which had been inadvertently removed from them
by a clause introduced into a bill of last session.
The Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction Continance bill, and the