The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
Dorchester, Dorset, England, 1871-07-11 00:00:00

THE TIOHBORNE CASE.

On Monday the Lord Chief Justice read a letter be
had received from Lady Doughty, urging that the case
should be continuously heard, imploring his lordship ,
to take into consideration her advanced age-76 next !
Auguet —and her failing health, so increased from the
Intense suffering caused by the cruel charges brought
'rebut her now only oh 113 (Mrs. Radcliffe). On 12th
Much at Mr. Hohnees several of the family came t 3
see claimant. Mrs. Townley said "I knew my cousin
Roger. You are not him." I said Lucy, you will
be very sorry for that." Mr. Radcliffe repeated, "I
know my cousin Roger' and you are not him." I
turned round to him and said' You are no gentleman,
and it was • very lucky jib for him that there were
ladies in the room—(laughter)•
The Solicitor-General : Oh ! I daresay he was very
much indebted to you ?—He was not indebted to me
but to the ladies.
In June, 1867, he met Mi. Goxford and others, and
questions were asked ebotit the sealed paeltet Sir Roger
entru.ted to Stu Goeford,
Claimant denied that he said be could not reoolleot
anything about it. I said, he continued. I wrote it in
Mr. Gosford's parlour at Cheritou, and reed it over to
him before I floated it up ;and that I marked it "private
and confidential." Mr. Ballfit asked Mr. Goateed if that
was right, and be laid it was. I maid Mr. Goraford
knew I could not mention the cententa.
Did Mr. Gottfried say that if ho had thought be
would have met you there he would have brought •
handful of letters of Roger Tiohborne •' and did Mr.
Bulifit say, "What have you got letters then ?"—Yea.
And did Mr. Gorsford reply that be bad lettere from
Roger Tichborne up to within three weeks of his going
on board the Belia?—Ho did not say so, and he swore
at the Law Institution that be had destroyed the
lett,re.
Did you know he had the lettere ?—Yes, of *puree I
did. How could I dispute it for a moment.
The Solioitor•General then read from Mr. Go aford's
examination in Chancery, in which he said :—" I had •
private conversation with him about the document, but
he could no: recollect leaving it with me, or give me
any itiforms!ion as to the contents." Mr. Goeford
also stated that several years after the loss of the Bella,
when ho wu packing up to remove into Wales, be
deatreyed this document with many other papers of
Roger Tichborne which he thought confidential, and
ought not to be seen by other eyes.
The claimant in 'the course of his tiroseezamination
3a,?;7o:•itri—Z:nl;;;;lrmieLrfn"-I;=, one ci
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which was a donkey being tied on to his bed. The
Sobs:Mr-General asked him respecting the r, cognition
which had been accorded to him by the family, and he
replied that only two of its members had recognised
him, one of who was his mother, and the other Mr.
Biddulph. Ile believed that all the family knew him;
but for reagens of their own they declined to acknow.
ledge him so Sir Roger Tiebb wne. The witness believed
Cromwell to have been "the Commonwealth," and John
Bunyan the reverse of such a man sa the Solicitor-
General. Hie wife was a Dublin woman, and her
father was a builder, lie knew bereft or seven months
before he married her.
Qoestioned as to the " Tichborne Mortgage Debenture
Lean," claimant said Airman. Fearon.Clabon, and Fear=
got up the prospectus.
Who financed the scheme ?—What do you mean?
Who found the money ?—What money ?—(laughter)s
Very wt.ll; perhaps it is assuming too much to sup-
pose that money was found. Did anybody find the
money ?—Well, I have sold a few of them since.
What have you raised upon them do you think ?—I
might have raised between L'2,000 and £3,000.
Five per cent., issu..d at 65?—No answer.
Do you know anyone who baa taken somewhat heavily
of these Tiehhorno bonds ?—(laughter). —No, I do not
(witness himself laughing).
They were blued at 65, do you know what they are
nor I—Arc they quoted regularly on the share market?
(lengbter).—No.
Are they what is called ruling by or ruling high?
—(laughtor).—lt all depends how you hold 'em.—
(laughter).
HU the Bank of England taken =Loh of them I—That
I can't say,
Glyn'., or Coutts'l—No answer.
Sergeant Ballantine—l think you may sesame they
have not. Mr. Solicitor ; His too speculative • matter
—(laughter).
The Solicitor-General-Still you say you got £2,000
or £3,0001-1 might:
I know you might but what did you really get?—
From time to time I think I have received what I
mention.
Do you mean that you issue stew when you want •
little money I—Yes.
Are they current things? Are they issued now?—
They aro not.
But you let any one who is go disposed have them,
I suppose? Oh, yes—(laughter)—and what is more, I
, shall require to do so if this case is going to be post-
poned till November—(laughter).
When were they issued I—There is no "issue" about
them. I just let a few private friends have them in-
stead of a bill, and I might as well say ta your lord-
ship that these papers were printed, and Faeroes,
Ciabon, and Fearon were going to take them, when
my bankruptcy appeared in the newspapers, and that
put an end to the matter, and the whole of the bonds
were returned to me. Since then they have been sold
principally to private friends.
Then it is a kind of thing you oblige your friends
with, are these Tichborne bonds? They need not lave
them unless they oticeee—(lsughter).
He was then questioned into money lent him, and
it seemed he was to pay generally 200 per oent, for it.
Mr. Whalley, M.P., is down for £25.
On Wednesday the Solicitor-General asked that the
claimant should be examined by some surgeon named
by his lordship in reference to the various marks spoken
to as being upon various parts of hie body.
Mr. Serjeant Ballantine said that his lordship had no
?ewer to order any such examination, and he (Ur. Ser.
joint Ballantine) positively refused to assent to it.
His case was that the whole Orton story was a deli-
berate conspiracy founded upon utter falsehood' When
the evidence for the defence had come to an end, he
should have no objection to the fullest examination.
The Sal citor.General said that he must retort that
he considered the claimant's came WAS a oonspiracy and
the claimant an impostor.
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The Lord Chief 'Justice said he was strongly of
°pinkie that the plaintiff should be examined as to the
marks spoken to by him. He however, was not well
acquainted with what the practice of different judges
bed been, and he would therefore take time to canal or
the matter.

The Solicitor-General read lanes from the fisherman
Gould, at Poole, to Mr. Holmes, dated April 21 and 23,
1867, in which he said he had written to state that he
was with Sir Roger Tichborne • long time, and went on
to say, " Ask Sir Roger if ho sun mind when he bought
• boat at Poole. Ask him if he can mind when he put
the wild rabbit/ on Perry's Island, and when he bought
the long boots and stookings, and how he went after
the poachers. I should like to see Sir Roger end have
a talk with him. Perhaps he deal remember he Is in
debt to me for water boots and long stookinge—boots
LI 14s, stockings, IL, El 195." (Laughter.) The learned
counsel also read another letter from Gould, evincing
some anxiety to see Sir Roger, and saying he thought
be should be the best witness he had got: The Clalmaet
said he did see that correspondence before he saw
Gould.
The Soliritor-General : Is there any per." in
England who knew you In Australia as Tom Castro?—
Lot.; a few, that is.
Tell me their names.
Witness—One I °tuna tefl you, as I oonlyerirew him
u "Liverpool," I don't reoolleot any th
Is there any person In England who knew Arthur
Orton in Australia?—Y..

Caa you give the names of any of them t—i[shorild
be very sorry—(laughter).
Perhapa you forget who they are 7—l shall not for.
get when I have an opportunity of putting theta In
the box. I ailloot recollect their names.
Tkat you swear 7—Yes. It would be perfectly unjust,
my lord, to compel me to answer. Have seen several.
We have three here ready to go into the box. There
may be more.
Claimant was questioned ea to eenunanisationa be
bad had with Yrs. Pittendroe, wile of • eopyhig sleek
it Mem& Dobiaeon arid Geeee's (lito demon on the