The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
Dorchester, Dorset, England, 1871-10-31 00:00:00

DORCHESTER FARMERS' CLUB.

The first meeting of the 1871.2 session was held at
the Antelope Hotel last Saturday evening. Mr. J.
Homer (President) was in the chair, and there were
present—Mr. R. Gouge (Vice-present), Mr. T. Chapman
Saunders (hon. treasurer), Mr. Peens (for the hon. see.),
r. R. Damon, Mr. T. H. Saunders, the Rev. T.
Bennett, Mr. H. W. Hawkins, Mr. E. Reunion, Dr.
Aldridge, Mr. Cunnington, Mr. Henry Taylor, Mr.
Lush, Mr. W. Atkins, Mr. C. Jesty, Mr. J. Jesty,

The PftIBIDINT said he was pleased to meet them at
the opening of their twelfth session, and hoped it would
be marked by the same unanimity of feeling and good
attendances u last year. which were so gratifying to I
them all. This waa • preliminary mooting, for =olio(
the arralgemente of the session rather than discussion;
and lie hoped they should be able to decide on five or
ale subjects, so that all trouble might be avoided at the
future meetings. As to funds they stood very well at
presmt, but there was a heavy bill to pay for analydng
manures—id guineas—but Mr. Chapman Saunders
would tell them all about that. By this their funds
would be much reduced from what they were two years
ago. It would be remembered they spent £2O in the
publication of their proceedings for the first seven
years. Of the 100 volume, 63 were left, and if any
gentleman present wished to have • copy the price was
to members 'lr., and to non-members 4s. It would be
found a very interesting and instructive volume. He
suggested for consideration whether the charge to non-
members should be lowered, that they might be sold;
As they knew, the B.th and West of England Society
would bold its meeting here next June: he had an
Idea that they might offer • local prise, but seeing the
state of their funds, he feared they could not afford it,
although ho was sure none would have done so more
freely than them had they been able. There was also
the question whether they should publish their '
aoalysi4 of manures in the papers or not. His opinion I
was that it was no use to have analyses made unless
they were pat before Ilia public. Ile believed the Win-
frith and Blandford subs had in previous years had
manures analysed, and the results were perfectly satis-
factory to all parties. lii thought if they went to the
expense of an analysis, they could do no less than
publish it. If. hoped the Club would go on in the
same flourishing way as before, that the meetings would
be well attended, and good results flaw from them.
Agriculture had been very much improved by the
various Oaths and societies during the last 2/ years, and
no doubt it was advantageous to meet together for the
discussion of fanning matters, and of such questions as
affected them in the pursuit of agriculture.
Mr GENGE thought there could be no question as to
making public the analyses their Treasurer bad received.
The ablest chemists had been employed, and he thought
it their duty to make known their report on the various
manures used in (kis neighbourhood. He thought the
Club would derive particular satisfaction from the fact
that their old and esteemed friends, the manure mer-
chants they had known and dealt with for many years,
same out honourably and well from the ordeal to which
they had been subjected—(hear, bear). He thought
they would find from the report of the chemists, that
the beet mmures circulated in this neighbourhood were
those to ho obtained from those merchants who have
been longest in the business sod with whom meet of
them had chiefly dealt. There was one sample he might
perhaps be shoved to speak of, for it appeared to be
very inferior indeed; and he could not help thinking
and saying that the money which the clubs—not only
the Dortheeter Club but others in the county—had
spent in procuring such analyses was well Laid out if it
only served to expose one inferior manure. Ile need
not say more; but would ask the Treasurer to read the
, report of the chemists, and be (Ir. Gauge) would move
that the same be published an I circulated among the
, members, and also sent to other Farmers' Clubs in the
county._

The Rev. T. BiNSIITT, IA • new member, seconded
the proposition, and tdd the following anesdota,
Addressing ono of his tenants, Lord Campbell add "I'll
undertake with the contents of me snuff-boa to manure
for you an acre." " And I, my Lord," replied the
farmer, "will guarantee to put into the same snuff-bog
the crop it will produce "—(laughter).
The P&MDINT remukel that nearly all the manures
brought into Dorchester market were reported upon.
Mr. Nunes read the resolution at the last meeting
to the effect that samples of manures be invited to be
sent to Mr. Ca.tpuen Sailor:lei-4 on or before the Ist
Juno, and that they be submitted to • chemist for
analysis and report thereon.
_

11. r. CILIPM•if-WAtitr—DiaTesid that he received font,
teen samples of lIISOUrriI from various members, and
should have liked to have had more, as there were
several samples in the market not included. During
their receipt be made it his study to find out one of
the twit chetialita of the day, who would render a fair
and satisfactory insipid., and take into eonsideration
also the market value of each sample. He first sent to
Nesbitt and Co. : they were willing to make an
analysis, but did not wish to fiz the Value; but that
would net have met their requirement, and he had to
try another. He was then told of Mr. Sibeon, who
mado an analysis for tho Winfrith club, as many of
them saw last leer; and he was willing to make the
euelysit they desired, charging a guinea for each
sample. Mr. Sibsou was a well known man, and he
thougLt would lte satisfactory to the club. Having
obtained all the samples, and he had two or three of
one kind, be took from them GU samples and with
every care sent them to the chemist for analysis, at
twitting a number only to each sample, and keeping
himself • memorandum of such numbers and the names
they represented...He produced Mr. Billion's report on
13 samples together, and ou one (sent up later),
separately. There were several manures (-said 11r.
Saunders ) not at all satisfactory, though the manures
said by some of their old friends came out over market
price, but the samples of others were very eonsiderably
under, Ta" of AIL Lewes was valued at DS idi., sold,
be believed, at E 6 'Si. Of twees he suttee well as •thls
year's sample SOMO of last year's, and there was a little
different*, the second being put st £6 Spooner's
Dissolved Bouts was valued at 116 18a, and the market
dated the money valise of
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each, taking into consideration the amount of hone and
the condition of the sample. That containing most
fbinietutiv'eNio;tion3 (dBiiriOr tehsoug,
No. 8 would also admit of some improvement In this
respeot(Odames Blood manare,Kr. Saunders add, valued
aithishltavri.agidasagonctirsoo) iampolvertytiodue:
at E 6 10s. and said be thought at ET). No. 6 will be
settutobe my poor giall awl about prop*, be shirded

amongst manures. The other wimples present c insider.
able rarities, but call for no special comment. You are
at liberty to publish the above if the committee think
fit. Mr. Saunders continued that No. 6 samele was
deity's mamma. Mr. Slime valued it at Ids. a ton.
He (Mr. Saunders) was not satisii d with that—he
thought there inieht be some mistake, end, having
some of the Mime manure left, which he had kept by
him, he sent a sample to Dr. Vieleker for analyria. In
reply he received this—Dear Sir,—The sample of so-
called Blood and llone Manure blob you sent me for
examination I find contains very little blood and booe,
and is a poor manure. I notice it is very damp. and
contains a large amount of insoluble matter, with 4 per
cent, of phosphate. In my judgment it is not worth
more than 20s. • UM. Mr. &Woe vslued it at 104. lie
(Mr. Saunders) thought these samples must have been
badly manufactured. He received from the bailif of
Mr. E. Baunton, of West Knighton, • quarteppmer,
enough for shoat 2,000 analyses! He did not think
the manure was thoroughly mixed, as there warn groat
leek of uniformity in the samples. But, it would oe
noticed, Dr. Yoeleker did not pretend to fix the actual
value: he said "sot more than 30r."
Mr. SINN RI T : " Re the same more or less."
SAUSDERB : I think tampering it with others it
might be worth El a ton.
Mr. GCMG : IS mutt be very dear at £5.
Mr. gammen: There was another sample, that of
the Duuball Company valued at ES and sold at £6. He
got • sample of guano and sent, and he thougbt the
Club would approve it. for it was now getting very
sesame and dear. It (Lawson's) sold at Ell, and was
estimated at Ell 15s.
Mr. JOHN Jun% the manufacturer and vendor of
No. 6 manure, said it would appear from the analyses
that the manure he sent out was of very little value ;
bat he was satisfied that there mast be some mistake
as to the sample sent. When he told them that some-
thing like half or more than half the manure be manu-
factured was bone, they would see there must be some-
thing wrong in the sample, and that it did not fairly
represent the bulk sold by him. Many persons who
had used hi. manures had come forward to give him
ttiiesbesmamonials
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had grown roots equal for weight and Size, and in some
instance., better. If such was She case, and the analyses
produced Were correct, then chemical analysis WM DO
use whatever. He should be pleased to show them
testimonials from persons who had used the manure.
Mr. T, Baseombe, of Tadnoll, said I am quite satisfied
with the blood manure. I have tried it against other
manures, and find it answer quite as well. Mr. W.
ol Buokland Ripen, was pleased to sty that his
swedes Ind grown very much larger and better SULU
those sown in the same field with two other sorts of
manure. Mr. Jesty said Lawes'e manure was used on
one side, and another cart on the other side. Mr. W.
Atkins, of DowerfiAd, who used both his blood =mare
and superphosphate, also gave a testimonial. Mr. W.
H. Dunning steel the blood manure; Mr. J. Peters the
lop-dressing manure. Mr. E. Chiloott said Mr. Jesty's
manures answered well.
The CHAIRMAN said the Club had not come there tc
condemn Mr. Jest's manures; but they had submitted
I ample/ from various members for analysis, and they
Gould not deviate from the report reoeived. If his
(Mr. Jolty's) manure answered according to those testi-
monials, it would approve itself to the public.
Mr. Jon.: said it was half bone. Mr. Miller. of
Upwey' heard something of the analysis, and said he
should be pleased to give him a testimonial.
Tho Climate/as : What quantity of superphosphate
do you recommend per acre
Mr. Jewry: From two to five owl per acre. The
price was five guineas per ton. •
The CHAIRMAN : You don't suppose WO Use the best
superphosphate at the rate of 5 cwt. per acre?
Mr, Jiterr : If the land is very poor, but 2 owl. Is
more generally used than 5.
Mr. SAUNDBIS : I have some of 'ha sample rerbain•
log in • carefully stoppered bottle, and I shall be
happy to supply Mr. Jesty with some if he likes to send
II to any chemist for analysis for his own satisfaution.
Mr. Deese said he would not trespass on their time
to read all the testimonials he could give them, for
that would take too lopg—(laughter, and "you needn't
do that"), but he would say that he w,s perfectly
satisfied with the analysts and satisfied that Lawees
manures were the best that came into the market.
There was a difference of 86 a ton between the old and
the new sample., and be could assure them that the
earlier in the season they ordered the better they would
get it, Mr. Lewes had always told him that if he
wanted the best quality be must have thin the autumn.
He (Kr. Damen) had landed 100 tons at Weymouth
this week, and a vessel had gone off for another cargo,
because they would doi it infinitely better if made In
the autumn, and the time of manufacture would fully
account for the diaorepanoy of is a ton.
The CHAIRMAN said he should be afraid if ordered
now the bags would split abroad before it was used, and
a good deal be lost.
Mr. DAMIN said it was greater expense to keep in
bulk, but be bad it in that way, and had in many
hundred sacks to fill when they required it next March,
April, and May, so that they should have the manure
in the best condition, and the bags too.
The CHAIIIMAY said he believed that having the
manures analysed was the best thing that had been
introduced in this minty, as it would keep their
manure merchants up to the mirk, and ensure their
getting manures up to their value.
The motion for publication was carried without dee
sent, and also • motion for the payment of the expense
of the analysis.
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they had • balance of 123 10a- Id., and the charge for
Ihtthoetre:idwbeLsombehnoiethiefr:
he was very well satisfied that they approved what had
been dune and the results:

On the motion of Mr. B. TAYLOR, seerended by Mr.
W. ATKINS. Mr. Edward Obi Mott, of Maokleford, was
elected a new member.

The members were then invited to propose subjects
for discussion st the ensuing meetinp,end the following
list was made out:

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Roo& and gates, tramways included.
Tho comparative merits of grating and tillags.
The condition of the labourer.

The difforenoe in the reeislts between good farming
and bad.
The probable inareased demand for animal food in
England, and the prospect of supplying it.
The effect of recent legislation on the agrieullaral
interest.

On the Increase of diseased' amongst lire stock.
Agricultural exhibitions, have they been beneficial to
the agricultural interest?
Agricultural hygiene, as it applies to the tenant
farmer.

Mi.-Datum suggested that they should reserve some
general subject, such as the effect of recent legislation
to oonsider if convenient on the week of the Bath and
West of England BocietY•
The Rev. T, Bunisrr said he had just oome from •
Chureh 'Congress at Nottingham, where tho mayor,
although a Dissenter, invited them all, 2,300, to •
soiree. They appreciated it very highly, and voted
the Mayor • fint.claes follow.
Mr. CCIBININOTON suggested • small committee to see
if an evening meeting could be arranged in the Bath
and West of Enlend Society week.
Ths CHAIRMAN said there was • "Local Committee"
already appointed.
It was arranged, however, that this matter should
be considered at a future meeting.
Alter some eeltaideratioll, Mr. GEIGI agreed to in-
troduce at the neat meeting "The probable increased
demand for animal food in England,' and tho prospect
of supplying the demand." Mr. A. Pope is to be asked
to read • paper on "Agricultural exhibitions, have
they been beneficial" The Rev. T. Bennett will in-
traduce° the subject of "The condition of the labourer."
Dr. Aldridge was asked to take "Agricultural
hygiene, as It applies to the tenant farmer," but would
not give an absolute promise.
This ended the business and the meeting ended.