The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
Dorchester, Dorset, England, 1871-07-04 00:00:00

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110U,E OF LORDS.
Meeret; —Alum a lemming OM lenWll &stage, their lord-
Om. µlhalrerd:
101 DAY.—Their lordship.lloeWerded ueerl ARIL
Till MOAT.— The Lord Chasm-Loa's bill for increasing the
judicial Committee of Um Privy Council was road a stismil
time.
A motion by Lord OILANIIOIIM and Ilaimrxe, for an aildreas
to the Crown mottling the r..,•ret of the Hoc It her klejet•ty
'wing been ads ised to ihzii the Ws Idegtim Treaty, 8' •irhich
unl eventing the honour and dignity of the tvuntry," was
imeatived without a It i•fon.
bALISSOLT moved an addrrei to the er..e.
praying Her Majesty to erithold her unction t • site schen"
for the future manatremeut if Einem, I It,.
After some dissitsaion their lordsh.pe4sj.J, when there
•cre--
Tor the address .. • • 04
Against it .. • • 60

Idajorfty for the le:Wren
Lord BALIIIIIRY then moved bnliaZ p.thrr 11Ith re.Peht
to two other Weetmhoter vharitmo, end the motion ow.
lowed to without • divi,ion.

DOU6K or CI )11 MONS.

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MONDAT.—Tbe delvte upon the second reading of the Ballot
Bill was TOSIIIIN‘i lig Mr. 11. J•isu, who, whibt supporting the
naessuze, admitted that the day when the ballot became law
might to be regard.' as one Of bitter humiliation to this
country.
Mr. U. HARDT contended that eecresy would only be insured
In the mime of •• the Oltall, the cowardly, and the di•hoen.t."
Mr, IiTLLND'iI gale of Liquor on buoday toil wa, thrown
out.
At a late hour, the opponent, of the memure forced •
n on the question of going into committee, and, by a
of 18. the bill wan boat.
11 esoAy.—The 110WO early got Into Committee of Supply,
aod made Nome ptogrtwo with the mitimates.
WILI•NIVIOAT.-11f. WM moved the eecond reading of the
pmich Churchos Bill, the object of which was to prevent
for the future granting faculties. for pews In parbh
churches.
:selcral hon. members recommended the withdraw' of the
till, and this we. ultimately done.
The Howe then went Into committee on the Burials Bill,
WA the C.1144.10;flalOtl of the clauses occupied the remainder
of tibe elttine

THE BALLOT BILL.
lot RADAT.-11r. O. 11. Mini:4olpatti the hon. member for
south We Lancashire (Hr. A. Cross) remarked that In
itogralia there was neither Littorals no Consenativea When
Inard that announcement he felt for the firat Unto In his
Itle a limeng to be an Inhabitant of that part of the world—
The hon. member for Iludderateld said that the
qto4ioo of the ballot had " Invaded' the Cabinet. That was
ttie of the happiest modes of expressing sudden aonversion
that ho hail ever heard of. Formerly when members of the
Treasury Liana voted that white was black they were declared
to he guilty of terglsenation and ratting—paughteri. If the
sod ill view was to assimilate elections In thla country to the
due:ricoi chi:thins be thought it one of the steongmt pumible
arguments againat the ballot: The fact was, the love of open-
in all these matters wee so strongly Implanted in the
minds of the great majority, that lie believed the neret
cogent would be immediately wonted awl treated with tneritod

contempt
Mr. B. Osmium remindtxl the Howe of tb• exact character
the 818, To amain' the law relating to Parliamentary sod
Municipal lauctions." nibs was a Ballot Bill and something
moo. He was well acquainted with town council elections,
aud bis experience was that whenever bribery existed In them
it also exided In parliamentary elections. To be sure it wee at
low rate in a Lean ii council contest —perhape the application
tis and a ilinurr ; but then there was an ascending scale for
'mullion of Parliament, and the corrupt voter expected ten
taws as much as he received for voting for Mr Bo and So,
ye., when it bet ante Mr no and 80, M.P.—(laughter). He
sLould like to have heard something about the nomination
Oa).Ut. experience was that at was • perfect saturnalia of
rowdies ; freedom was only n.vogniscil by its shrieks, and
equality was only one of tumult and diaorder—(ebeen). NOCLI-
Itatiun day. Isere at the root of all the evil. Bribery own-
niet.i.‘d at the very outset, from the nomination day. At the
ver eel elvdiuli. one of his legitimate expenses WWI A:B5 for
the tam of an audience at which his own supporters made such
&terrible tumult, that not a word of what he said could be

b‘brd—(laughtea). Then there was another point which the
(mods of the candidates considered most Important to obtain,
aid that was the show of heads, so that it wee necessary to
lure men to stand In front f the hustings to. secure thst

ebject. It came out at the Norwich election trial that in 1166
it out con.idermi by the supporter. of the Liberal candidates
that the show of hands should be secured, and there was
Ulna it a stun of t3e spent for that purymee--(laughter). He
coil incove nothing more useful than the clause in the Bill
which iinhibited the hiring of rooms in public-hou•es; and
he trulted that the Government would mot cut those pro-
ses.. out of the Bill, and leave them with • ballot pure and
umpk—(liear, hear). Another important point to them all
esa the expener• of elections, and on this point he should like
I .be infonued if hen, members returned all their expense..
Ile had reason to suppose that they did not—(laughter). Under
the present system men of moderate fortunes and retired
halan were prevented from coming forward for large con-
stamens:les be -.use the expense was so great. The cost of
batiieg circulars to such • town as Manchester would amount
to betheen 1:300 and £4OO In postage and printing alone.
It cot therefore of the mated, importanes that these
expense. should be put upon the county and borough rate, as
that would have Um effeet of making the people look more
C.-al) after the expense. ; and no leviathian could hereafter
the lit and coda:svelte to estanip the equitituency by the
kegth of Ills puree- (hear. bear). In le ar.l to the mode of
Woof the poll, he wa• Ito recent convert to the ballot; he had
sae), s oust for it. He dial not think that when the halint CUM
lute play human nature would be altered, but he JI,I believe
that human comfort and civil order would be promoted by it.
?ley liad beard something of the ballot being • humiliation
tethi• coutitryf In hi, opinion the humiliation to them
bbet this measure had not been paved long ago —(checre). It
alsu said that the ballot was up-English. They might as
well call the Revolution of 1068 un-English because it was led
by that enterprising and uniteresting person William III.—(a
laugh). The origin of Uie ballot in this countr) had been of no
meet date. It had been the fashion to say that the ballot
as. copied from America; whereas America had copied it
from them. He found from the old city records that the ballot
sas used for the election of aldermen.. lung ago as the year
1:48: and again, la the year 1637 therms.. an Order in Council,
nut generally known, about the ballot The ballot was !
Introduced into this country in the reign of Charity I. by •
casually of merchant adventurer, and traders who had
factories in Holland, and it was owing to one lecieschlen, who
lea. a deputy of the association at Iklft, and forced upen them
by Cherie; that this eal3lo about. The king wanted him to be
elected deputy for Rotterdam, but the company refused, and
%lieu they went to the vote he was thrown out. Charles sent
fr tile list ; it wee given to him, but no names were menUoncd
a. the voting had been by ballot. Annesed thee he cows no,
I ..-t I.i. spy deputy on Umee merchant adventurers, Charles
booed an Order in Council publicly &A sring his utter dislike
aid &lodation of ballot bozo., and prohlb.ting under severe
otsitlos the use thenceforward of balloting boxes.. Vote by
hahut lied been adopted by every European country, anal in
most of our colonies, and he had never yet heard that that
there had been any desire on the pert of any of theme cauntries
to nitert to open voting. It was raid that thu vote was &public
trust; but • trust ass exercheid solely for the benefit of
'wither person, and there was ne trust which could not be
sets...ed. But ha that as it might, if publicity endangered the
Lie er limb of the trustee, it behoved that Howe to pros isle
111LAIIII by which the trust might he safely diecharged—(hear,
hear). Moreover, as the Geverunivit of this Country MY
tier) day becoming mere democratic, it was neceseary to resort
It syoun of secret voting for the proteetlon of the voters
feat the influence of trades unions and mob tyranny—(hear
hoe). Ilk two feeling was that this measure would do more
lie the Conservative party than eay measure which had been
brought forward by their own leader—(" hoar," and a laugh).
Ho own experience had not led him to the conclusion that
bribery had diminished. Though it was toss open, it was more
settle in its &Aloe/ice—
For Satan now is wiser than yore.
And tempts by making rich, not making poor.
(aught.). The example eat by men ill high piscine had made
isdary what it was. llow had half the peere and taro.b
bee made during the but 40 years 1 Was it for any distine-
tbs. or any use that they had been to society I—(laughter).
hi-s; they had *pent their money in elections, and setaidised
the Isirough or the county; they flooded the constituency
sith naueey for the good of their party, and the remit was
that the lioliourable deader was sent to what la Called another
pl&-c—(laughter). He did not believe that the ballot would
eradicate bribery, but at any rate it would make its exercise
use dangerous. Moreover men were not likely to spend their
Lobe) when it was not certain that the return would be
fecured—(hear, bear). There never was such • plat* for
bribery as !Sudbury. where veto, brought fabulous price., and
ao man coLlti think of being elected under .Cl,OOO. When a
cushilate at the election of 1833 declared tliat he was adevoted
.upperted of vote by ballot in order to put an cud to bribery,
there arose a tremendous commotion in the borough, and an
immediate cry of "No ballot; no ballot I" So much for the
Legi4n side of this question. Now, how would the ballot
ireer.oe the repreamitation of Ireland? That was • difficult
Tee.tu to answer. He knew Westmeath well. It was his
• ,itviction that had there hem a eyetem of secret voting
at the last election there would have been • close contact; and
Is Waterford, which he represented, indeed of having a
%liveable majority of eight, a majority secured at the risk of
M. Mr, ho would have won by at least 1:0; and on that
euasi., so etverely inaltnyted were soveral ol the votere,
that they declared that they never again would exercise the
francial.c. Ile must demur to the experience of the hue. and
kerne members for the University of Dublin. They mane
bete • happy land where are was unknown-4a laugh). They
keeweething further than the collegians firing • few squibs
usi crackers on their return. The junior member for that
telienity had threatened the eviction .d Whig men. 1.10 (Hr.
I %borne) was nut rime of any place in Ireland which retunied
Whip, but one, and that was the University of Dublin. He
!no.hl my to them—"O ! fortamatos ttiinlum sus ei bona
boned." Let them take any locality in Ineland where there
had been • conteet, th 1 what did both Bides complain of
Coercive on the part of the landlords on the one side, and of
pnesta on the other--f hear. hear). Tho ballot would
hoeaj, illellenCe in tranvia/sing this, In many instanom
to. elector was compelled to have • vote, and he was also
°begot to use it iwhen he w•• uhwilling. Such Lying the
cue, they were bound to give him protection. In England
the first thing dose was to march the military out ; in Ireland
in.' float thing done 'nolo march them in, and pitiable scenes
were preeentol by electors lyitio cicorted between flies of
eaeetry end fedi., to the isoll, where they frequently had to
%AC at the peril of the lives and lini.. Ile had a most extra.
whiten, Rem in his last election bill. Hu fund himself
charga for two sets teeth—(much laughter), The price
at downs wag ten guineal. Ile &eked his agent if this were&
both in your defence. and It come. tinder the heading of
le.ottitiate closures" It was posithe cruelty to impose • vote
01.54 the tenant whkh eiit‘dloil nothing but the Miseries With-
o4t the gluey of martyrdom, without they gave him the pro-
ken 41 of secret voting. 7110 csttnoqscti C WC:, that the
pearnt spittle was hated by the people. Out of a constituf ney
44 lo,Ow electors in the c /wily Tipferary, only 4,060 voted at
the lay eleetion• The junior member for the university of
Whim hail said that if the ball wire enactol the great
lhajos ay of the members returned for Ireland wouhl but
bationathts. If that moult anyt him( it all, it meant that the
present repeesentatives we. e out returned by the free choice
tithe peopie—(clicer.). lie denied, however, the assumption.
liv beileved that melee the operation of the ballot. in the
counties more eq. ally, men locally connecte.i, and of
wee'd be returned. No matt could deny
Use strung feeliog of intionality which existed in the lath
mind—Omar, haul ('list fueling was not to be gut rid of by
kills wrung fr .m pekoes' tears, or extorted bg l'arliamen-
thy neesatties Tho Irks siere looking for something more.
...Weer that might lc. They had heard something in that
Sou. Houle rife. Ile 550 tousled to know what that
There had been usany luta rpretatiOna of theme rule,
It meant • /mine parliainclit fur domestic purposes, and an
imperial parliament for imperial purposes, both under the
aunt crwrii, be di i not see much objection to it, but he fearedo
t 005,1% .
homlething more. He feared it meant secession, and
alit .1.1, much an he let oth Ireland. and much as he felt the
la ...Air el representio4 an I rich emistl•umicy, he was not pre-
Perot to tuake such a ...writ,: of principle as to support it.
tim wool. of Lovelace, he well." say
1 ...odd eel love thou, deer, No much,
Lived I not honour more.
Let theei, then, know what home rule meant. He would go
It tiamc hale under proper circumstances, and with proper
/c4,ilatious, ion he abhorred ...union, boa.* his believed
tlia4 tin 01 1(5 first results would he the military subjugation
411relaed—theyr, hear). U. hail been seduced into making
they remarks by something which had fallen from the hon.
nanbee for Cork, but should lice/ conclude, thanking the
11..555e for haviog so patiently listened to him. Ile st.pportod
twelfth becauee he e•iieved that it would secure ord r
tranquility at elections, and he should rejoice to is. secret
voting witalgidial, not for tho protection of the cowanily and
dishonest, but ter that of the independent and lawabidiug
people of the Enipire—(ehoiniL
btr IL IL Isucu ealeined the ballot would establish • ryeteM
erganieed hypocri.y.
eir C. W. DILL{ .1.1 Um ballot would put an end to undue
hrooure and intimidation.
lie. thieves said the ballot would :14g-ran/do bribery and
el-ruption.
Mr W. E. FORMTIR Maly I /Aron., apts:al to ihe blouse, ail
Us. Li, / sehold euffnage bi pass the bill . the
lesioeary ninth of that moseure, iu or:ler to enable their con-
ilitikilts to ea :mime their right of eel: ge venou sit in freedom.
1. Nue.neyerra insisted teat any measure ahlel was lased
en)viltiod cowardice was us-En, Leh and unconstitutional.
r. Gi.serrOXll was not to cuulese that he rogue ed
beret voting aa a tholes of evil., and as such ho urged the
40hseto accopt thr bW, eating Won to prototi thoou who

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