The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
Dorchester, Dorset, England, 1858-07-06 00:00:00

THURSDAY.

Their Lordships lid;
Iu presenting petitions for the abolition of ohnreh•
raki,, the Earl of DRROY stated that he totally dir
*anted from the prayer of the petitioners, and when the
Bill on the cubical °sine on for ;Baconian, If no other
peer did so, he should move that it be read • "woad
time that day six months.
Before the order of the day for the second reading of
Lord Lyn 'buret.' Oaths B 11, t e Etrl o! DERST gave he
moon* for preferring the Bill introduced by the Etrl of
Liman on the same quartion. He had not changed his
View. of the expediency of admitting Jews ILA members
of • Christian Legislature ; but he thought the pro-
pocri mule by Lord Lucian was the only practical mode
of terminating the differrnoe with the other House of
Parliament which oould not longer be continued.
Lord LYNDHURST, to secure the main object would
postpone his inesoure, that the one propoeed by Lord
Liman, having the support of the head of the Govern.
want, might be palmed.
The Earl of LUOAN then moved the second reading of
his dill, advocating it as the best oompromise of •
question that had been the souroe of controversy
between the two Houses of Parliament for 25 year..
The Earl of Cu, ciQoiTT moved that the Bill be read
a seoond time that day six month".
Lord BRINRRI demeanor! the Bill as danprous, both
to the peerage and the monarchy.
Earl GaAtivitd.l supported the Bill, hut not with un-
mixed matisfaetion ; he did not think it the hest mode
of settling the quettion, or that the worse adopted was
the only one consistent with the dignity of the Honer
Lord RIDZSDALIC pointed out what he thought • con-
stitutional objection to the Bill ; it would enable the
House of Lords, at some future time, to admit • Jew
auddenly, and by a resolution, without the discussion
required to pasa a Bill.
Lord BROUGHAM mid the objection was groundlese;
the reaolution need not apply to any particular indi-
vidual, but be a general one. The fact that a Jew
might now lit and vote in • committee, performing nine-
tenths of the ditty of • member of Parliament, without
taking any oath whatever, had materially altered the
oircuiustantieti in which the question came before them.
The Bishop of Oxtroun should again oppose the
meaaure by his vote, for the seine reason he had always
done ; he though the man who denied the main princi•
Pie of the Christian revelation could not be safely trusted
with the power of making laws for • Chriatian commu-
nity.
Lord DUNGANNON and the Earl of CARDIGAN re-
gretted that on this queation they could not support the
Government.

The House then divided. The numbers were,—
Content— Present ... ... 79
Proxies ... 84
—143
Not Content—Present 84
Proxies ... ... 33
—97

Majority for second reading
The Bill wee then read a second time.

The eounderations of the reasons for insisting on the
amendments to the original Bill was fixed for Tuesday.
Thou lordship' then adjourned.

FRIDAY,

Their Lordships sat ;t-li-O;cTo-eic.
The Duke of Sogagerr moved the second reading of
the Church-rates Abolition Bill. The principle of the
measure wee the simple abolition of church-rates, with-
out providing any substitute for them, and he believed
.
this wee the brat (meta° to take in the flrat instance
_ _ _ . . . .

Lonl ST. LEONARD!' opposed the Bill on the legal
ground that ohnreh-rates were • °barge upon property.
Lord WODEHODEIE supported the Bill, all really calm.
lated topromote the interesta of the church.

The duke of MARLBOROUGH oppoaed the Bill.
The Earl of DBRBY thought the Duke of Somerset
had displayed iouch courage in on lertaking whit he
trusted would he the hopelema task of seeking to induce
the House to deprive the Church of England, without
equivalent or compensation, of what was essential to her
maintenance and one of her most indisputable righte.
He thought the principle of voluntary commutation was
the only possible solution of the difficulty. He could
not pledge the Glverionent to introduce any [immure on
the sulijeot, hut he would gladly hail any desire on the
part of Disaentors to meet the church half way on the
question. He moved that the Bill be read a second time
that day six months.
The Archbishop of CANTBRBURY objected to the
voluntary system that it wont,' place the ministers of
the elpirrh in en unworthy position with the people.
Bid he admitted ohurclerates could not remain as they
were, and he would cheerfully ,maient to any compromise
that was not wholly concession.
Earl OR iNVILLe believed the longer the Settlement
of the question was deferred, the wore diftloult it would
prove.
The Bishop of Luxonx, from esperienoe, doubted the
effluiency of the voluntary system as a permanent source
of revenue. 'rite Bill w 041,1 merely transfer £300,000
per annum to the hankers' amount.' of the lauded pro-
prietor+ of the country.
Earl GREY strongly conderrned the Bill as a measure
of injuatice and robbery against the labouring poor of
tho land.

Lord C tIIIMELL tlionght abolition without an aqui.
valent wee impolitic and unjust.
Lord Poirrie.iN wee strongly of opinion that the time
was coin, for some settlement of this question, and that
the only tool. was by dividing the church-rates. For
the. Nerds' the offertory would be sufficient, but for
maintaining the fabric ohureli-rates were totally in.
sufficient, awl some now plan wee necessary. The pro-
perty of the country wax liable for the inaintenanoe of
the old parish churches, but It was not liable for the
maintenance of the new district churches. H• believed
bisques Milde would be forth-coming if a plan were
adopted similar to that suggested by the noble earl at
the head of the Government, and films saw a hope of
the Government bringing in such a Bill he would not
Vote for this measure. He did not desire to see church.
Pates Abolished without provision for the fabric, and lie
YOteel for this Bill solely heoause he believed some pros.
gore wss neoessary to induce a settlement.
The Hotta) divided ; and the numbers were,-
-Preient
36
Not oontent•Present 100
Frosts* ... 78
167

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