The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
Dorchester, Dorset, England, 1858-06-22 00:00:00

'Tlleii:-Lordships then jadjou*ed.

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HOUSE OF C MMORS.—MONDAY.
In reply to Sir E. PE RY,
Lord STANLEY read 4.n extract from a private letter
of Lord Canning, and other from a private letter of
Mr. Montgomery, enc sed in the former, giving a
favourable account of tlie progress making in the settle-
ment of Oude.
The House having again resolved itself into a Com-
mittee on the Governmspt of India,
Lord STANLEY MOll the fifth resolution, "That,
to with a view the Mil emu and independenoe of the
Council, it is expedient ;that it should be partly nomi-
nated and partly elected,"
Lord .1. RUHIBELL moved, by way of amendment, that
the members of the qouncil be appointed by Her
Majesty.
After a long discnesioli, Lord J. Russell's amendment
was negatived by 250 to 185.
The resolution, after a few words of explanation from
Lord J. RUSSELL and OW CHANCELLOR of the EXCHE-
QUER, was then agreed to, and the Chairman was
ordered to report progress.
On the order for the second reading of the Peace Pre-
servation (Ireland) Act Conliwumices Bill,
Mr. BAGWELL, considering that there was no necemity
for the 13W, moved to defer the second reading for six
months.
Lord NAAR stated reSsons why the powers given by
the Bill should not be taken away from the Govern-
ment.
Mr &Tient DEASY; and Mr. C. FORTESCUE spoke
in favour of the sound reading, and Mr. P. O'BRIEN
against it.
Upon a division, thdninendment was negatived by 168
to 20, and the Bill wast read a second time.
Other Bills were &T attled • stage, mind some other
business having been sposed of, the House adjourned
at 20 minutes to 1 o'ol k.

17ESDAY.
In reply to Mr. MILO DIARY,
Mr. S. FITNGERALI stated that the arrangement by
which the King of Niplee had placed the Cagliari and
her crew at the disPSsal of Her Majesty was not made
with the conourrenc# of the Sardinian Government ;
that the vessel and her crew had been eat at liberty
without any categorissl demand on the part of the Go.
verinnent of Sardinia
Lord NAAR, in ruing for leave to bring in a Bill to ,
make better provisio or the polioe force in Dublin and 1
t other towns in Irel d, acknowledged that the present ,
police force was • e and well trained body of onen,
who had conducted heniselves upon the whole, well,
but specified certain jections to its constitution, more
especially in Dublin and Belfast. It was projxned to
abolish the local polke force in those places, to amalga-
mate it with the tonstabulary, and to establish one
uniform police systeti throughout Ireland. He speci-
fied the details of Eke measure, including the expense,
the manner in wt.* it WAS to be defrayed, and the
provisionsLinade for a polio force for the Bundler
towns.
After ionic motifs by MT. J. FITZGERALD, Mr,
WHITESIDE, MT, 0 GOAN, and Mr. VANCE, IGETE WTI
given to bring in theßill,
Lord NAAR had likewise leave to introduce a Bill for
the •snore effectual administration of Justice in the
Police District of Diblin Metropolis.
The ATTORNEY•GIENERAL moved for leave to bring in
• Bill to enable wine to establish their legitimacy by
the judgment of 'Court of Law, and also to enable
persons in like nner to establiah their right to be
I regarded as natural orn subject.' of Great Britain ; and
to extend the jurisdiction of the Court for Divorce and
Matrimonial Causes, He explained the object and tenor
of the measure. ,
Leave was given.
Mr. MCMAHON obtained leave to bring in a Bill to
secure the right ofinew trial in criminal cases.
The orders of the day were then gone through, and the
Muse adjourned # half-post 12 o'clock.

WEDNtF3DAY.

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. Mr. BLACK, in moving that the Edingburgh, &0.,
Annuity Tax Billie read a second time, said its object
was to remove an .enormous grievance, the tax being not
only extreniely oPpressive, but injurious to morals and
religion, and eapetially to the Church of Scotland. As
an evil and a wrong it ought to be abated, and although
those who called for RA removal were not bound to pro-
vide an equivalent, the Bill proposed that seat-rents and
torch:loz_ coil, ions should furnish a fund, or the
minima,' part of tem, asi icitibatittite for the tax.
Mr. Baxran a ..nded the motion, contending that
'ter the abolltion .f Ministers' Money in Ireland, which
as a mitigated . nnuity Tax, Scotland was entitled to
a relieved from t 's burden.
Mr. BLACREIC EN dburved that seat.renta were objec-
onable in glair c aracter, and would not be paid; and
iureh-door voile ans were entirely for charitable pair-
He Move ko defer the second reading for six
,
amendinen as ascended by Mr. BUCHANAN.
"I . supported the Bill as founded in
like gave it.his cordial support. The
-u highly aggravated and intolerable
, ature unjuat and obnoxious.
... 0, . .d the Bill, considering that it
;Mini:4p " eubveni4ve of church property, and
i dl the blishment.
LEIN sup. d it. This tax, he said, could be
, only lay t old arguments in favour of church-
and Militate money.
Mr. C. BRUCE ke against the Bill, the passing of
'doh, he said, wdd be equivalent to the condemns-
on by Parliamen fof the principle of an establish-
ent.
Sir T. E. COLEBVIOKE, though disposed to relieve the
city of F,dingburgh from an exceptional position, was
not prepared, on tie other hand, to place that city in •
better position that any other city of Scotland. This
was an attempt at a compromise, the terms of which
might be adjusted fa the committee.
The LoRD-Anvotare observed that the question re-
solved itself into this—whether the equivalent for the
tax proposed by the Bill was adequate and ample. It
was agreed on both sides that this was a insist unfortu-
nate mode of providing stipends fur the clergy. He con-
sidered that it was an inexpedient mode, and no man
would rejoice more than he at any measure being devised
that should have the effect of abolishing this obnoxious
tax altogether, oonditent with the providing • sufficient
equivalent. If he mild only see his way to a satisfac-
tory settlement of the question, nothing would, he said,
be more gratifying to him than to propoaa such a settle-
ment, but not upoi the terms of an absolute abolition
without an adequate equivalent.
Lord DUNCAN aepported the Bill, and
Mr. HuassAN tuommended the Lord-Advoinste to
take warning front the fate of Churoh-rates, the inoi-
dents of which, rod of Ministers' Money, oontrasted
favourably, he oburved, with those of the Edinburg
Annuity Tax. Hi was prepared to vote for the second
reading of the Hill the principle of which had been ad-
mitted in the ems of Church-rates and Ministers'
Money. A grievants* was acknowledged, and the 'aunt
to the second reading would not commit the House to
the mode and amouit of the equivalent, which were
matters of detail.
Upon a division the amendment was carried by a

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single vote, the ayes for the then second reading being
129 and the noes 130. The Bill is therefore lost.
The County Management Bill was road • second
time.
On the order for going into committee upon the Regis.
tration of County Voters (Scotland) Bill, Mr. G.
DUNDAS moved to defer the committee for six months.
After a short discussion, this amendment was carried
upon a division by WS to 96 ; so this Bill is lost.
On the order for the second reading of the Insurance
and Assurance Institutions Bill,
Mr. Siiiimnax desired to postpone the second reading
until the 7th of July ; but
Mr. HENLEY recommended him to withdraw the Bill
altogether.
This suggestion not being adopted,
Mr. EttITCOURT moved to defer the second reading for
six months.
Mr. SHERIDAN continued to speak upon this amend-
ment until a quarter to 6 o'clock, when the debate
stood adjourned.
The remaining orders were then gone through without
debate, and the House adjourned at 10 minutes to 6
o'clock.
THURSDAY.
The House, at the morning sitting, having resolved
itself into a committee upon the government of India,
resumed the consideration of the remaining resolutions,
beginning with the 6th :—"That the members of the
nominated portion of the Council shall be selected by
Her Majesty, subject, as a general rule, to the qua-
lification before expressed, and one-half at the least
of the elected members shall possess the like quali-
fication."
Lord STANLEY, after adverting to the position in
which the committee was placed by its past votes—one
of which, had decided that the ineiubers of the Council
should not be all nominated exclusively by the Crown,
but that they should be partly nominated and partly
elected—reviewed the plans suggested for providing an
organ of election. The Government proposed not to
vest the election in any particular constituency, but to
deal with the first appointments thus :—Accepting the
number of 15, they proposed that, out of the 15 mem-
bers, eight should be nominated by the Crown, and that
the other seven should be elected out of their own body
by the existing Court of Directors. Poe the filling up
of vacancies, they proposed that every alternate vacancy
should be filled up by nomination by the Crown, and by
the choice of the members of the whole Council.
Lord PALMERI:WON suggested that, before this new
proposition was considered, it should be placed upon the
votes, and that time should be given for deliberating
upon it. He entreated the House, however, to deal
with the Council upon the established principles of the
British constitution.
After some further discussion,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER proposed that
the 6th and 7th resolutions, relating to the constitution
of the Council should be omitted, and the debate
deferred until the Government proposition was in

print,
Lord STANLEY observed that he was prepared to con-
sent, on the part of the Government, to proceed no
further with the resolutions, but at once to introduce a
Bill.
Ultimately, after a long and very desultory discussion,
the sixth and remaining resolutions were withdrawn,
and the Chairman was ordered to report the resolutions
which had been agreed to, and to ask for leave to bring
in a Bill founded thereon' it being understood that the
Bill would be introduced that evening.
In the evening,
Mr. FITZROY brought up the report of the Committee
upon the first five resolutions, which were agreed to,
and leave was given to bring in a Bill founded upon these
resolutions.
Lord STANLEY immediately brought in the Bill, which
was read a first time, and ordered to be read a second

time on Thursday next.
On the order for the second reading of the Commis-
sioners for the Exhibition, 1851, Bill,
The CHANCELLOR of the EXCHEQUER entered into a
full explanation of the arrangement made with the Com-
missioners which it was the object of the Bill to oarry
out. He stated that the Royal Commissioners for the
Exhibition in 1851 found themselves in possession of •
large surplus fund which under their charter they were
bound to apply to the encouragement of the arts and
sciences, and explained the manner in which the Go-
vernment had been brought into a kind of partnership
with the Commissioners for giving effect to this object,
and the embarrassments which had been the result of
the interference of Parliament. The Bill was intended,
he said, to determine this partnership upon the follow-
ing terms :--that the capital which had been advanced
by the Government, £177,500, should be repaid by the
Royal Commissioners, with the addition of half the rent
and other proceeds received during the interval, making
altogether a sum of about u 182,000.
The Bill was read • seoond time.
The Wills, ha., of British Subjects Abroad Bill was
read a second time, with the understanding that it
shonld be discussed on the order for going into com-
mittee.
On the order for going into committee upon the Public
Health Bill,
Mr. PALK raised various objections to the Bill, which
Mr. ADDERLEY recommended him to reserve, as relating
to matters of detail, for the committee ; and the House
then went into committee upon the Bill, the clauses of
which were discussed, and, with some amendment",
agreed to.
The Transfer of Land Bill was read a second time.
Sir B. BETHELL obtained leave to bring in • Bill to
amend the law in relation to the wills of British subjects
dying while resident abroad, and a Bill to assist the ad-
ministration of justice by affording better means for
ascertaining the law of other countries in cases where
questions as to snob law shall arise.
Mr. HARDY had leave to introduce • Bill to amend
the law concerning the powers of stipendiary magistrates
Intl justices of the peace in certain cases.
The House, after some further business, adjourned at
25 minutes past 1 o'clock.
FRIDAY.
In reply to Mr. HORSPALL,
Mr. S. FITZGERALD said there was no truth in the re-
ports that the discretionary powers of the Plenipoten-
tiaries in China as to the place of negotiation had been
restricted.
On the motion that the House at its rising do adjourn
until Monday, in reply to an inquiry by Colonel FRKNCH
General PEEL stated that it was not at present in-
tended to disembody any more Militia regiments.
Mr. BUTLER asked whether it was the intention of
Her Majesty's Government to take any steps in conse-
quence of the practices alleged to have taken place at
the confessional in the district of St. &nab's, Pimlico,
and the statements that similar practices are being con-
tinued by other ministers of our ohnroh in that neigh.
bourhood.
Mr. WALPOLE had no hesitation in saying that if
such practices had taken place the sooner they were put
an end to the better ; but if the facts were denied or !
disputed the subject must come under judicial cognisant*
and the sooner the better.
Mr. DIANGLEB asked the Chief Cominluioner of Works
what steps lie had taken, or proposed to take, to pre-
serve the health of members of Parliament from being
destroyed by the present pestilential condition of the
river Thames.
Lord J. MANNERS read • report by Mr. Gurney of
what had been done to get rid of the offensive exhale-
tions from the river, and pointed out the defects in the
law under which the Metropolitan Board of Works
was constituted, and the restrictions imposed upon their
powers, observing that some change ought to be made.
But if the Government, he added, were to undertake to
cleanse the Thames at an enormous expense, they could
not ask the metropolis to pay it.
Sir B. HALL gave a short explanation of his trans-
action with the Metropolitan Board of Works in relation
to the drainage of the metropolis.
Mr. BRIGHT, who had given notice of a question with
respect to our relations with the United States, con-
tented hiniielf with asking whether the Govenunent
had received any information relating to this matter
which could be laid before the House, so as to put it in
possession of the position in which we stood, and allay
apprehensions both in this country and on the other
side of the Atlantic.
Mr. S. FITZGERALD deprecated discussion upon this
subject which might cause anxiety hare and in America.
The Government, he said, had not received such in-
formation as would enable him to give a satisfactory
answer to the inquiry. If any wrong had been done on
our part, it would be inch on the part of Her Majesty's
Government by • candid acknowledgenient of the
wrong. It was clear that what were termed" British
outrages" had been most grossly exaggerated. He
believed that the American flag had been abused ;' that
it had been employed by those who were not Ameri-
cans, and who prostituted it to the vilest of purposes ;
and he had • confident hope and belief that, upon in-
quiry, and when the facto were brought to the notice of
the American Government, the matter would be easily
and satisfactorily arranged. The right of search had
never been admitted by the United States' Government,
and the law officers of the Crown were decided in
opinion that am had no right to vialt American ships;
it would, therefore, be unbeomning on our part to delay
the acknowledgment. It was under the consideration
of Her Majesty's Government whether it would not be
desirable to withdraw our squadron from the Cuban
waters. No additional instructions had been sent to our
commanders since those issued under Lord Aberdeen's
Government, except that they had been enjoined to
use the greatest caution.
After so ne further discussion, the motion for ad-
journment was agreed to.
Venous Bills were advanced a stage, and leave wee
given to bring in certain Bills.
The House adjourned at • quarttr to one o'clock until
Monday.