The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
Dorchester, Dorset, England, 1864-11-15 00:00:00

proposed. There had been • more remissible system
propored come years MO. A hien] of his took out
a patent for utilizing *wage by having a kind of
, vat for it to run into. and applied lime to it in order to
settle the solid from the liquid manure. The lime was
applied over night, and next morning the water woe
turned off, wimp it was so while and clear that it looked
almost like spring water. His friend thought hnimat
exceedingly fortunate, mai that the patent woold be
vsluahe. lie mold the solid manure and sect it to
different part. of the country, bet it had been so dashed
before, that its vales did not pay the sad of
carnage; therefore it was seeesscry to see if sosnething
could not be done to remedy that. The rev. gentlemen
had Alla& d to some remarks which he made sane time
ago, but hr hail no idea he bed done him the hornier
of mentioning his name in his able pamphlet, sod be
now thought it wan his duty to ley how he arrived at
such conclusions. They were aware that the corn feed of
animals in a farm °oat to leave about about one-third
Ha value in the shape of manure. He believed
that upon the tenant-right system the principle was
adopted. If a sheep consumed 30.. worth of core
it ought to !cove 10e. worth of manure. He contended
that, going upon the same principle with men, the
population consumed a very large quantity of corn, say
6 bushels each permit per year, whizh, at is. a bueltol,
brought it to Ms. per annum, leaving 16e. a-year VI the
value of manure from corn alone. The other park from
the animal food would perhaps be more valuable Ain.
This concliaion was arrived at from guano, which wee
so valuable on account of the bird giving it feeding on
Hob, and, in consequesce, missal matter produced better
manure than corn. This was how be arrived at the
concluirions mentioned by Mr. Mauls. He did not mesa
to say that one-third the value of earn feed was left
in menura by asap or any other animal; but if they
arrived at the conclusion one way it eras only fair to
allow it in the other. As tbe rev, gentleman stated
it was very pban,,if only confined to corn, that 11 10.. per
bead was given for the manure of this town it would be
worth £3,500. Now this was • matter which ooOt
not to be lost sight of. There was nothing which Ensh
people could not do if it could be shown them that
it was profitable, but it meet be shown to be practical as
well., profitable, and Mr. Motile had done both. The
question must be entertained and bought to boar and
would tviipeph sootier or later.

The Lecrnaits raid he deans,' to tha.nk Mr. Damen
publicly for being the first pence to encourage him.
Mr. Damen wrote a lettef to him in which he stated
that if be (Mr. Made) n4lialsed a mooed edition of his
pamphlet, be should like him In state what wall the
war. bow he snivel at the calculations mentimied.
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Hr. T. H. BACKDIMS said before they could being the
invention into ups they must get the landlords to erect
suitable planes. Three or four years ago his landlord
pot some of these closets in a few cottages. The people
Isaghed at tbe klea at fret, bat last week be inspected
them, and found them working admirably, and knish.
ing sufficient manure to do good to their pfardens.
The Lecruagn remarked that in the case just
mentioned the cottagers did use the manure with great
advantage. In Bradford Abbas, the steward of Lord
Portman having seen such • closet, talked to the
people about it. One man adopted the plan, and at
the next vegetable show gained almost all the
prises. With reference to the neoessity of the load.
lords doing anything, he might say that the wet was
very trilling compared with the cost of water closets.
In • custsge the whole apparatus might be pat up with
the machinery, which was of great was, for not more
than f../. lit coat £5 it would pay itself in twelve
months. Any house might have the best apparatus for
LS or £7, as there wue no need for any expenaive re-
eeptacle or exeensive piping. When r'rofteeor Way
saw the simplicity of this closet, be said," I can help
you, I think, considerably. I can prepare an earth in sa
inexpensive way, that shall have dee times at least the
absorbing and deoderixing power which shall be good
manure for wheat, and whom it is dried shall be four or
Bee times. I am ready to say, very valuable."
Mr. ,J. 0. Homan inquired what would be tbe first
expense for • closet for cottages.
Mr. Morn.. replied that the machinery would not be
more than 30a, cusd the wood work 10s..
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Mr. HOMER then asked if some abed would not be
required to place the deposit in.
The Licromla explained the manner in which the
iarth could be taken from the closet without any place
to put it in.
Mr. HOMER inquired if it would be sufficient to pl ce
earth in the closet once a day.
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The LICTURZR atated that the eerth same down from
the receetiiele provided *very time the closet was used,
and exeleined • process by which he dried the earth in
his schoolroom.

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The Parsioswr mid I suppose you will expert that
this discussion will not elms without a few otnervationa
from me. and I am only sorry I are not able to follow
the lecture, which we have heard with eo much pleasure
and advantage to night, in • satiefectory way to myself.
My releservalions must be very few, and, perhaps, die-
jointed. A. to the importanoe of the subjeet itself I
think it will be unnecessary to make any observations
at all; we rosy leave that to the common sense of the
eountry, our only object bei-g, no far sewn are able, to
brine it fairly and folly before the public. The questioa
itself is of mores yet in its infancy, end the struggles, I
may say, which our friend, Mr. Houle, ham made, to
being his own pion to perfection and introduce it before
the public with no mush earnestness, ehowing,a• hide..,
the practical adventage it will be to the country,
proves how little the subject has been thought
of in times past. Now there are two or three
important queations which most us it the threshbold
et the discussion, and one is the comparative value of
liquid and oche' manure—l would rather say dried
manure. On that question I would simply appeal to
practical farmer., many of whom are present to night,
as to the oomparetim value of liquid and dried manure.
For my own part I have need both, and I mud, my that,
consider's, the little comparative advent.". I have
foaled from liquid manure, end also to. napoirtable
nature of liquid manure, thme two points will be a
sufficient answer for the question. There is no
doubt whatever that the some manure used in a
dry form is I should say—at least Mr. Hodges
says 30 or 40 times—at least ton times es
valuable in its fertilising powers in a dried
state aa in a liquid state. Then as to the corn-
punitive value—l mean the price—that must be
judged of course by the comparative fertilising power
of the manure itself. We have taken guano to be the
Mandand value of manure., Mr. Moule has just in-
dicated, ea he is enabled to do in many perk of this
revise., what would be the oomparative value of this
. manure, by stating that 50s. per ton were given for two
' tons in one we. Now if this manure is to pass seven
or sight times through the mime orooms, and the some
deodorising power is to pass through these promises
i seven time., and if at the end of uses. it doee not
weigh more, or is not larger in hulk then when the
earth WM introduced or mixed, I have DO hesitation
in saying that the comparative value between guano
and such manure is that it would he fax mom
valuable thaii that which is indicated. Forming •
rough opinion about it I Mould say it would be worth
more then a half of what guano is worth. Those who
have tried superphoephate of lime for turnips know
very well that if they mix good manure, such as we do
use by picking our best manure from the downs or the
yards, end making a compoet during the winter, if we
administer the phosphate of lime we find our oror very
reach better than if we were to use phosphate alone.
This iv one ground for lecheries in the mined such a
manure as thst. I cannot undentead how it is that
neither the bulk nor weight is increased, but of course
we tyke the evidence before us now, which is as fair as
Mr. Moule ean give us. Now, that instead of beim, •
disadvantage, I believe the emallnea of the quantity
will be understood at once by everybody to beans:med.
ingly greet advantate,for our object is to get se highly •
condensed and fertilising powers. we can in the manures
carried axial the county, as we can y &oily make them
weaker if we like. I do not th•nk there is any great
difficulty in introducing such a system as has been in-
dicated to-night in small towns and villages, and I look
forward to the time as near at hood, when this system
will Mourne much more geuerally known in thinly
populated localities. But the groat question is, bow are
we to deal with it in town.? aol one great objection is
thin, that so large a sum of money haa been spent in
towns by the limitary Commiaioners in the system of
mwerage. I was told the other day that the system of
sewerage now being carried out in London will cost '
no less than £7.000,000. [Mr. Motile £7,000,000
have been already called for ) That will be enough
to give us an Idea of the immense exposes witioh
he sow incurred by the syetem of water semenge,
and the &loathe' which I wee about to stale to the
introdurrion f this 'yawn i. that you will have to do
•eray with yea pe.sent system which ha• cost you ruck
• large sum of money. But the question will then
stale whet is the object you are about to accomplish
Now we have Mime building ships of war et an immense
expense, but as neon as we hare built them we hem
put them aside for other shim beesuse others hare been
sh-wn to be more efficient. If we adapt the principle
In 11. occur, why shoul I we not adopt it in anottier ? If
the adeautage to the country he no much as we suppose
from the statements we have heard, there is no
reason whatever in the argusnese why this
system of cleansing towns, and making • profit
of the very things whieh you seek to eimem
should not be silopted. Then, again, the mice
of the ampere, I apprehend, might be judged
of by the feed of the anlunsb. I take, an 4
envy practical fernier Mese, the manure fruit the
erasing animal, say from the sheen, the sow, and
nest cattle, to be much more valuable Om of store
cattle. We also comider house pigeon's dung to be a
Takashi. manure bemuse the bird lives on corn. Then
If you come ro Moran szerement, of course, we have an
increased vales. On this subject. however, I have
taken the liberty of expressing my opinion
before, therefore I will not trouble you, with it
further. As to the question geserelly, what is the
expense, and how is it to be don.? I knew
geetlemse who wished to purchase se estate.
He seleseed the last man he could of Wiletl,
to take advice. He went and spoke to him.
, He introdmed the subject by speaking of the ways sad I
ineans of purchming. The answer which he received at!
once was, "Do not talk about that, that is not the
I practical question twfore me—the great question is this,
I is it worth beyiagr I think you mit apply thins...
I principle to the subject we have before us. Is it worth
doing, and is it an article worth having? for if it is let
as endeavour to carry out the cystt. on. lam sure Volt
all feel with nee exceedingly indebted to my friend, Ifr.
Motile, for coming amongst um to-night, and introducing
the sabject in such a masterly way sobs has, nod I have
no doubt that some gentlemaa, from whom it will corns
better than myself, will he kind smash to move • vote
of thanks to him, as we are in duty bound to do. tor I,l°
able and valuable lecture!
Mr. G. °ALMS mid that at the preseet time they
had only been talking about me side of the gasoline,
and it would be well to look at difficulties which would
pretest Heel! agelait Mr. Moule's system being carried
out in the face. He contended the& it was imposaible to
make any profit oot of liquid sewage, end, as a proof of
this, stated that Government sometime ago employed
some agriwalteral chemists to deal with that gab**
and they gave it as their opinion that in was impossible
to stake sewage peoltable. He aleilleha there
would be one great objectice to make the system pro-
posed universal is towns. Their object as agriculturists
was to get this mimeses, whilst the object of the pre-
date., mato gee rid out, but at the same thee be did
net think peenems is lawns would go to the temble
miging 1t,,. Omit mast be mach more tremble by this
eyeless thee by Me wailer &steam
The CIL&MaII remarked that he did sot think that
would be themes if servants could °sly finger the money
for the manure.

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