The Stourbridge Observer, Cradley Heath, Halesowen & District Chronicle.
Stourbridge, West Midlands, England, 1876-12-09 00:00:00

introducing temperance. (Load applause.) He could
not help thinking that in many of the proposals for
doing away with the trade there was little of justice and
fairness. But, latterly, there had arisen a desire to
give compensation to the licensed victualler, a system
he had always favoured. (Loud applause.) He had
placed on the paper of the House of Commons a clause
relating to the question of compensation when Mr.
Bruce's bill came in. The times in which they lived
might be called a mixture of that of gold, of iron, and
of brass, and not one of either. It was essentially an
age of men of business, and no man would sacrifice
his interest, and that of his wife and children, without
some consideration. (Hear, hear.) But he mnst con-
gratulate them on the fact that those who went against
the trade had recognised the question of compensation.
There was another point much lost sight of, and that
was, what would the people think of that way of restrain.
lug them in their social enjoyments? He could re.
member the suggestion to close all the houses in London
on Sundays, and he knew how the people, with no weak
voice, put an end to that kind of legislation. There
ought to be some moderation and some sort of concillia.
time in dealing with the social habits of a great people—
a people who worked hard and spoke loudly. (Laughter
and applause.) If it was possible to restrain them with.
out touching their sensitiveness it would be an ir..
calculable benefit to society, and do great good. But to
do a great good they must not do a greater evil. A.
great deal had been said about the Gothenburg system
proposed by Mr. Chamberlain, M.P., and its chance of
passing or becoming a plan. He had expressed his
opinion of Mr. Chamberlain, but the people of Bir-
mingham were essentially a commercial people, and
they combined with many of their philanthropic pro.
jade the question of honour and profit. Mr. Chamber.
• lain proposed to purchase a large number of important
businesses, but the cost would be so great that the people
of Birmingham would see that they could not purchase
without involving themselves in great debt and crippling
themselves from doing great good in the future. The
people of this country objected to one-sided legislation,
and the working. classes wanted to enjoy themselves in
their way as much as the upper classes. (Hear, hear,)
A proposal like that could never recommend itself, for
the cost would be so much as to test to the utmost the
philanthropic zeal of the community. He thought, in
sonclusion, that they could not do better than content
themselves with the good Liberal-Conservative policy of
the olden time, that education and good government
would be the best means of reforming the vice they
called intemperance. (Loud and continued applause.)
The Chairman then proposed the toast of the evening,
" Success to the Dudley and District Licensed
Victuallers' Association, and their Chairman." He
said he could rot understand the undue haste which
affected parties in the State to interfere with the proper
conduct of the business of the licensed victuallers.
With the present law there were ample means to reach
evil-doers and the trade should be allowed to rest and
develope the existing state of the law. (Hear, hear.)
It ha; always been said that education would prevent
drunkenness, but they muA recollect that the Educa-
tion Act had only been in force six years, and, therefore,
had not had time to do much to change the people's
will. That it would ultimately do so he did not doubt,
and he believed in this agency on preference to re-
strictive measures. Until it could be made known to the
drunkard that he was vicious and unworthy of a place
in good society, no very great goeu would be dune.
(" Hear, hear," and applause.)
Mr. Challingsworte, in responding, said the associa-
tion was not started to dety the law, but to protect the
honest trader from officious and illegal prosecutions.
(Applause.) They had done much good, and he was
glad to say that the members numbered 130, and the
honorary members 60, whilst the funds in hand were
£6OO. (Hear, hear.) But he could not help reminding
them that for years they had been worried by legisla-
tion, and yet their enemies were not satisfied. Mr.
Challingsworth then opposed the principle of Licensing
Boards, al hough he prophesied that in Dudley they
would be well represented, and said the Permissive Bill
would never be passed. The Gothenburg scheme pro-
pounded by Mr. Chamberlain, M.P., was also to be
introduced into Parliament. He did not know whether
Mr. Chamberlain was mad, but the piodle of Birming-
ham were goiag mad about him, auct if the measure
passed the House, Birmingham would agree to the
scheme. In Sweden 10 gallons per head were drank,
and yet in England only 1 gallons per head were con-
sumed ; therefore, legislation was necessary in Sweden.
Mr. Challingaworth objected to the statement that
publicans caused all the drunkenness, and remarked that
one firm alone advertised a sale of 30,000 bottles of
ardent spirits.
Mr, W. Field proposed, "The Licensed Victuallers'
National Defence League, and gentlemen forming
deputations from other towns," and Mr. John Clements
responded. In the course of his remarks, the latter
said Mr. Joseph Chamberlain was one of ties cleverest
men he ever met with, and he believed that he 'was
sincere in his motives, Mr. McFarlane, Mr.' White-
house, and Mr. Bunn responded.
" The Honorary Members " was proposed and re-
sponded to. •
Alderman Bagott preposed, "The Health of the
Chairman," and this was well received.

, 7 The Mayor responded.
A number of other toasts were also duly honoured.
During the evening letters of apology were read from
Mr. 8. JJ. Allsopp, M.P., Mr. Walker, M.P., Mr.-Bdas,
tsL.P., ftr. Allsopp, M.P., Mr. Brogden, M.P„ and
Mr. 'Wadhams. .

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