The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
Dorchester, Dorset, England, 1879-01-14 00:00:00

DORSET. COUNTYFRIENTILY SOCIETY

-ii-VISYO- Win- Tb-i3ZlAilfirof:

On Monday a meeting wee held in the Grand Jury
Chamber, I,lll&than, in order to take into considera-
tion the defilenry in the Society's funds.

Among those present were :—Mr. E. L /Cindersley
in the chair ; bon. members—Mr, E. Pearceitinlirnr. O.
Re H. Bond. y. J. Lee Warner, Rev. C. W. ba,
Mr. R. Williams, jun., Mr. K g Eliot, Mr. .W.
Bell, and Bev. H. E. Itareohill ; benefit members--
Mr. Foot (Dorchester), Mr. T. Harvey (Iwerne
Courtney), Mr. Both (I werne Courtney), Mr. J. Foot
tourPsior), J. Sheppard (Gillingham). Mr. White
(ifilingLam), Mr. -H. Manwell (Swanage), Mr. J.
larin (Portland, ), Mr. it. C. Otter (Portland), Mr.
J. Otter (Portland), Mr. F. Pearce (Portland), Mr. J.
Coombs (Blandford), Mr. Harris (Child Okeford).

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Bev. o. W. BISCHAM moved—" That the &Belt
shall be met."

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Mr. Btu. (Gillingham) seconded.
Mr. nu behalf of some of th 3 benefit
members was disposed to put off the dealing with the
deficiency till the quinquennial returns.

The summary ofhir. Adler's letter and mom:Donde-
eon wee an follow,:

have been mule with the view of
ascertaining what would be the effect upon the Society's
F wince :--

the allowance of f all pay were to be restricted
to the first eta nonths of • period of sickness, half pay
being allowed for the remainder ; and
" Ind.—lf full pay be alio wed for the fint twelve months.
half-pay for the second twelve months only, and quarter-
pay for the remaioder id any period of sickness.
"In the former case It has been found that the
lisbifitice would he reduced by about £4,000 sad in the
latter by about 0.450, thereby reducing the deficiency
to but httle over £lOO.
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lw-Wiiii tile-re-lot-0
.advies that the allowance of half-
pay be restricted to the second twelve months of any
continuous sickness, and that for the remainder of the
period quarter•pay only be allowed."

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Mr. E. PEARCE said every hour this was put off, the
worse for the society. Men who thought it might be
put off were simply deceiving themselves.

Hey, Lem Wixn, censaering this question I. so
fully raised, qpoosed putting off the question for a
year. The society had been agitated from one end of
the country to another, and the question ought to be
dealt with to-day. The Stourpaine branch bad
resolved it would be neceesary to put the society and
to adopt the plan of Mr. Adler of reducing sick pay
to half pay after one year's illness, and after two years'
illness to quarter pay.
Mr. SlitimMto did not wish to compete with the
actuary, but found there is very great dislike to the
sound of quarter pay, and therefore, and to show the
causes of the deficiency, he put forth hie letter.
(liaur, hear.) All he cared about is that the matter
should be settled, as it block@ the way to the useful.
nes* of the society. (Hear, hear.) lie should not
have taken so disagreeable • journey as to-day's but
that he wanted the society to become what it was
before. There was no each thing as getting on with
the society until this question is settled. It is quite
impossible to get a perfectly equitable mode of settle-
ment, and the difficulty must be kicked out of the
way in order to get on. Other societies have dealt
with such difficulties, as the Hairpshire and other
county societies, and the Oddfell awe, and the dealing
with them had improved the position of those socie-
ties by giving confidence.
The CHAIRMAN asked bow could they ask members
to join a society the future of which is unknown'
When it is settled then they can go to the public ,nd
say "if.,. is the best thing in the county, the best.
In England—come and join." (Hear.) Those who
send their opinions but do not come are not so well
able to give advice about the society as those Present,
and "we" (the members present), said Mr. Kinder..
Icy, must guide them.
One division 15 voted for the proposition and none
against, the Cuotsmax expressinohi. thaukfulneso to
those who had their doubts but bad not voted ag.iinst
Mr. BILL then moved that Mr. Shepherd's pro-
position be adopted. Mr. Shepherd's proposition will
effect all the members when they become sick ; but he
had a strong opinion that quarter pay is not worth
having but if • member knew he could only lose one
day's pay, he would be satisfied. When they enjoyed
a period of rest and quiet, this Dorset society will be
• model to all others, and if they settled it, he should
be satisfied to recommend it to every one as the best.
One of the most important rules is that fir the quin-
quennial valuation, and then • division of profits or
of losses. All other societies are in a worse position
than the Dorset County Friendly Society, the latter
had exposed their sore all over the county; but if the
others were to *LAWNS their affairs they would find
themselves worse cif.
Mr. B. Plum' seconded.
Mr. Ream, the re' cesentativ• of the Swanage
branch, was in favour of Mr. Adler's, bacon'e a man
would not be affected by it until he had drawn out
more than he had paid in. He proposed that Mr.
Adler's be aooe_pted.
Rev. Lis WARNIMI secinded the prposition, t,
accept Mr. Adler's, alluding to the c 'cowling words of
the actuary—
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" It might be found when the next valuation is made
that the fin .roved administration of the society
the fiti. condition had improved, and, if mo. the re-
strictions placed upon the sickness benefit could then to
some extent be withdrawn."
Mr. Jos Poor opposed Mr. Shepherd's proposition,
because it would affect immediately all who are ill.
In their branch they were determined to onto, ce the
new rules, and if they were not carried out, they would
hold the steward responsible.
Mr. BMX said forihnself and Mr. Pearce, he only
wished to do what is most agreeable, and most for the
benefit of the society. if. therefore withdrew the
ecopoeildon in favour of the amendment by the steward
of Swan's%
Mr. F.. PLACA preferred Mr. Adler'.; but the
Rev. C. W. BINGHAM said I. his branch the members
were in favour of Mr. Shepherd'.
JOHN Orrin, the representative of the Portland
branch., was in favour of Mr. cliwpherd'a
BOND 'poise in the same sense, quarter pay is
worse than nothing.
Mr. R. WILLIAMS also mentioned a member had
saki quarter pay is 6o small, it would be better to go
outs parish at once.
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One OT two representatives said their sari:ober. were
In favour of Mr. Shephant's.
Mr. HiBVIT, lwerne Courtney, stated the opposi-
tion of his members to haring 9t instead of 10s. 6d.
And as to the new metube.s, would they not be bound
to the new rules ?

The CHall3ux said—No ; the decision of a general
meeting would overrule everything.
Mi. 'Harm continued he detested quarter pay;
which would bring some members to pauperism.
iti,dooe the sick pay to quarter-pay; but make good
the other quarter pay from the branch management
fund. When it Mall had been paying in for some
years, and •permanent illness came on him. an I be
were reduced to quarter par. it would be as bad as
perish pay at Duos. Lot the general funds pay only
querteepay at the end of two years, but let another
quarter-pay be provided for by • levy on the fan& of
the branch.
Mr. G. ELIOT pointed out the general meeting had
no right to put such a fine on the branches.
The CH•111114.21 said Mr. Harvey's proposition might
be_permiwnve ; but could not be binding.
, Rev. C. W. BINGHAM thought it must be left to
each branch. Could not each branch adopt either of
the propmitima they wished
Mc E. PUNIC% said no—it would be too cumbrous.
Mr. HoIIVIIT thought each branch should endeavour
to meet the cases of such members as might be reduced
to quarter-pay.
Me. E PRAMS considered it highly unadvisable
there should be two modes of action in different parts
of the club; be would rather have the worse of this
two proposals than have a double mode of action. Mr.
elaw Harvey's proposal might be met by the branch passing
a by to that effect.
kr. Jon Foor opposed Mr. Shepherd's proposal
because it would affect • man directly he was ill, and
follow him all the journey through, whereas Mr.
Adler', would not affect a member till he had been 11l
two years, and he thought there would be few who
would have quarter-par.
Mr. Batt suggested deciding on the general matter,
and leaving Mr. Harvey's proposition to a meeting of
the Management Committee. They would have 1000
risponeibtfity in going to their constithenta. if they
adopted the recommendation of the council they
sought.
Rev. H. R. Ravenna!, Rucklaad Newton,
remarked that in Hampshire they b sd quarter-pay.
On a division 15 votot for Mr. Adlm's rooommenda-
Hon and 8 for Mr. Shepherd's.

-171: -Fa;ic—e-Cifeese;ci. the obligations of the
club to Mr. Shepbee for his alternative proposal.
They were just as much obliged to Mr. Shepherd as
If his proposition had been carried. Hreggposed a
rule which would have the effect of can a man
to hay* the medical man's certificate o his canvas.-
mos before he could be put in such a position that,
øs bisslissi 01 again, he would reoeve full pay.
Mr. BILL pointed out that • man might under the
present role voluntarily come to have the pay of the
society for a time, then, on the earns sickness, go on
again after six months on full pay, and so dodge the
society.
The role was carried.
" Neither full pay nor halfay shell be granted &pie
until be has been off the (nub for six saenthe, with the
season's certificate of his restored health; but this
dos not apply to a distinct sickness."
The (humor resorbed they would not shake the
Isendation of the moldy by /wades new robs ; it was
Vibbllo IWO pallet rules.
ilmossaD cantbasd the aawsban against being
alarmed by the sea ra, liesZewhich cannot be
effected by the tow i11..i11..H50 pointed out that
for., gs. die gif glikONS the Bonet
County ftsieb hid odd. the Manoleerier
ijaity cif had only- pelt= mid lb.
wird the Mors to teke owe and the old

members banging im I'mll ow the rattily. The
of eus.,i.iig ,iyinpetnetie omnutmuestion hotiry446i,
central management and t..several hrtnobet wiii "'"
p.,int in whieb the v. ciety ntddit 'eb,etee
alma,.
tered. Ile cautioned them a.tai..st
te
tocucit t.0r,0 If itMedit
atuythingrigfr;on tite.ttleat v
Wre nolaatai, slut:7)
11r. E. Prracc oongratniatr.l the Dodd, oi ,
DOW put ou a firm footing. A little deLieney iii.'4, L
cevecte,: next year, but $ m the
establahal, it will be in as goo., 1 a .a of .'
th.m any emiety in the kinzdona A,, to•iti
~,...k-..z. et,inel„ietriiiiiin, their bands bad been ti,.l; the, kil
plenty of power la give any sorpla,. which did
ammo ; but they had n 1 means a deficiency.
The CHA1611•11 said now tho society i, m,
many of ilk. t.I I memb:ro may %taut 1,0 .on. 'l4'
again.
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MUNICH RCLIM.
Mr. Jolts Orme spoke of the difficulty of • enough members for branch meetinira, and .
they be summoned, and Utley do not attend 11.;?, It is difficult to get one-thief of the reaideut met,,L." preeet. lf there were 200 menthe's M haa:7
and only 50 attewted, there. would he 150 aiziea-a7:'.
Mr. td. PRARCZsaid LENA Ras not on the Noma
paper.
hie. HELL proponed a vote of thanks t the eite, man, whose kiudly and sensible an I iateharea4t.
interest in the society bad extended to the the meeting t (Applause.) Me a 1..,
• vote ofthanks to Mr. k'earce, who had vr,,rLtrs4
tritt
interest, greet persistence, and great alai°,
Carried by acclamation.
l'he CHAIRMAN sang wleaLted the v..te. and 41
Mr. Pearce, who said Mr. Porch., founded tha
society, and if his wishes had been consulted th.; would have been to see Mr. Kinder.ley takii, the
part he had in the proceedings to-day.
The meeting then closed.

WINFRITH WFOAORLIIIBRS Cl. I: R.
Toe annual meeting of this old eetaltlishe I dob
held on Wvlnesday lost at the 1.11.ek R.ar le -he" This club, wl iclo li.. now pmatd tbro.igh "eg.
• gnarl, of canlury of its stirs:ace, although enme f the .1 which saw ll..aree birth dee trted o fee;
i . yet it has iticat•o—"
Its populariti —heart I nese and ronanm o.
eamong its nt....ZZ,
One great foa ere, and, we teink, • very icr.47.7.
tho society, to that its funds me evadable f,.,...
of obtaining an dysis ofmanures, feeding •tog;-""'...e_ „of; *ye., which is admirably ruoegby tiyemiee
oaks and tee indefatigable exertions of tar
Cary. Mr. G. Randal
Tha weather on Weduesdey last waibitte I
tr '
y hyd.
tetliin4 for farmers Icy toad chains'',. yet Mere AT
fair muster of metubera, amen., whom
Bates (president), Mr. J. J. Haddon, Rev. J.
(virus. !of Wait, Ileum F. 8it..., Lu, IL T 177;
Ligg, G. Mlle, H. Sudden, N. W. aay
a„,..
T. Sas mobs, Spicier, Stallard, W. Hoops, T. g
iwtni:+uhdaejiPs'dll:ogichourimieinr°:::nietcanws"dtynethle,aelianhyolod.'wBa:crero't.i.se7;ll:6ettedett"heitlG.
choice flowers. The dinner was well cooked, am
served up in the usual good style for which the wo;
wag;
host and boot-roe, Mr. end Mrs. May, are preeart,i4
Ban the Bates occupied the char, and Hy. I.
udd vice-chair.
retud
Grace was said by the Rev. .I.lDodington, • •
o ago
rnethanks.
/On the reel leaf of the cloth the eltAlleaN sem*
"The health ofellre Majesty the gleam." Hs •ati
that they, one and all, .would sytolothise Meet di* with their gracemu Sovereign in the heavy loss elue• ah's
has just bustained in the death of her beloved dasstm,
the Premise Alice, It required no words of hi. to gy;A"
an the many noble virtues of Her If tjesty the geom..
need he ask for any Beige) Of loyalty from them, le
they as farmers were .11 truly loyal suitor-b, of t•,.
L .cot might she reign. Ile would ask them to hod,
her health. (Applause.) to
i The CllAlAllan neat
_proposed "The Ilealh el tho
, Prince and Princess of Wale% and the eeet of tic Rid
Family." He • aid in introducing the augment, hat to
had a very handsome cup beside him, ell to elute*
destiny appeared t t create • good deal of interest But he
Was anxious to get to the business of the crater, aid
proceed at once with the Watt which he had propoost. Rs
could say no more of that haat than he d.. 1 el the
preceding one. They all looked forward to the Kneed
Wales as Intended some day to succeed it. royal moiler,
and he (the Chairman) was sore he only uttered ths
unanimous feeling of all pre...it, ethele by ral4 he beget
that that day wee frar distant, and would Le log
(Loud applause).
The CUA111111•31 next propose' 'The Bunco aad
of the Demeter.- ceupling witu it tie n nu • of the It v. J.
Dod Paxton.
Mr. 1)0DINOTON, in respondiag, atei I.e begeed to task
them for coupling hits name with the toot. Ln.t yr.: to
wished be had heen present, but it was out of it. powo
lha behalf of their hiebop ho word I m 'rely say tut be
wee welLknown to Lem all, for he tonk a real Ihttred
agricultural matter i. On behalf of too Clergy te wand
say very little, end if occasionally they tel to draw as
their pockets, they were none the worse fur that It
afforded a great Filament to he there that eremite, and
he deeply sympathised with them.
Too CUAlailriP here remarked, incilivaly, that Br.
Ll.xlingtou had a conaideraide interest in fennel& ail he
was sure he could sympathise with all their fee:ltaff es
that subject. He (the (..oairiutus) was glad to • v he
was in • posittito to synipathlae with the-u. 141aerre.)
The CHAIR/WI sail the tient toast he had t ewe thew
was that 01 "Th. Army, Nacv. and Rrsence Faye
They all saw how valuable those lighting f..rodi awn Os
one great fad of the raterve Cocoa woo that they •we
ready when or aged. Ifil (the Cnairmaa's) moue es,
' Deperuaa wott Prworatio. (Cheers). Ile ...cola& hut
all those men who wore not fighting m,lt Mel adap
debt of grautude to awe who took op arms; the• drys
had the courage to fight and never ti rue stay.
(Renewed cheers). Ile be :gel to r lawn with too
the gadget of Meesrs. Iloopnr and lia•coinh..
Mr. HOorEl h,i ft rasp laded, and Mr. BLICeIIIII
respondlog, aatd that the beckhone of the Viluotsca as
in the Riflemen. Ile hoped that whoa calhel rip
would do Weir duty am soldiers ant aa Elgostrao.
(Applause).
Mr. Limo rose, and amidst considerable appluan, sad
he begged to pro: 'so ale next hair, which was &vast
to the Winfrith Farmers' Club.' He said he did so wits
he greatest pl agora, and he was proud to pee steely
gentlemen present that evening; bnt be rerusialund
atuut 17 or 18 years age there were about ,hr 0.1. tau
number present. No doubt the, club was conducted is the
way it ougat tr be, and he heartily wiehed it 4,10:11L
begged to connect with the toast the elltel Of Mar
worthy Secretary, Mr. Randall. (Cheers)
Mr. Boomm. In responding raid he believed thing. ..ere
locthittLitth a bit at the present time, and in coma:ties
with t agramele revival he could not help feiame cdi
it the name of Mr. Robert Damen, ol D wchester, eho hat
both in pur.e and every oth.r way, moonlit.' thew.
(Applause.) They regretted hie absence that mars&
and every Ole of them owe also much regret the theism
of their Vioc-Chairqyan, Mr. Chapman !launder.. (Remand
aPhlature.) li. ha l received le•ters free a Latioo if
earn.' r grettint their inalelity at
&Lead caentiou that Mr. Werds•ot te h.o, a iatt rwr.
sent his subecelptlon of one etuinta t •ar t..e load'
the Society. lie hoped that neat y..er ih y no,; is altle
tr got a few nosegays for liscuaion, and that the Witting
F.r•nere would go on and proltivr • 2.1 V.
(Cheer,.) . .

e CHAIRMAN said do •:r Vice-o,a mare no sheen. ele
5CC....111 01 Om death of hi, fathcreu-iaw. u!.oss demiso
was very hidden, and who was so much reap del
County and everywhere else. He •--.• '',e •••
perww..pe.s; r t reho did not feel surto+, tor he ',h&c., .1
their Vie. -Ctialravar, lie yarned od the cup and de
mum ...Latisells which be also won, aryl wh:ch he was
certein 1.0.1,1 be prised, mo-e time such a symbol
of Yid sry. Messrs. /Ilia, Hoddeu. Riutal. and Mar
coded the oth r prises. The feeling of merit odd
arm =petaled these we. much highcr tnan the istrials
Value or inch prism. (Lead applause)
11-. BUDDER, who on ri-lag wie rise deed let% leery
demonstretion of nirdiality, acknowledged his great m•
debtedntos to Mr. Spher to,' having done so rerec4 itst
the prises. They, were many thing. which would lumen
be looked to, but one thins ought Lot too forger tea Uri
that •21 011,11. analysis. Mot • ,e•••leiiien el, • news
were mentioned were very good to give Leon thikr.• "
he fancied that if they dealt in a hal ar.iele it world leo
bad thing, even if they won a cup now ar.d Own. Ho
hoped their secretary would be able to tali thew that Vteu
&asylum were being looked after. (C err.)
Mr. Ewe returned thank. tacit appr••ptiete manse,
Mr. RANDALL termer!) roar to return Ili tako oh behalf
of hie father. for he it wee who was the prize winner. sed
not himself. (Applause). He was sure he would Is. eel ,"11
Lvh,r, ho tail him t!.st be had won i.e of the tee
prima. They didn't put the manure in lb.. right *mewl
that wao the reason why they hadn't the cup. (Chard Bis
fr en_ Mr. Bitten, had said somethins about ...Ili'
He (Mr. Randall) he,' nothing to mnd in to be auslysel.
but he hoped ample, would les vat in oaring the email/
year. Tile same thin hed.unfortunately, heppehod with
the Doreetahire club in the past year, so that no us hos
could he Oilde,
thiToPerisesCilAYlian"d pseldr"."'ethdey...aTlllfselht'gairattl°firl ttbethposia'les
had given so much stimulus from time to time
Deme—fielossee)--had stuck to them through dad ref
thin, and and there wore several others so well. Them
was one gentlemen with them that evening. ..I •b"'_•ill'
we, oxceedlogly pleased to see. H. sAid he aympatlins.
with the members of the club. suppo.ed be did I. bY
being • bit of an egricu'turiit himlf. ILsarbl'"
Perhaps he would sympathise with them more II
them on in all clams for thisprims. He begged to NOG
with the toast the name of W. Frank Spic c.(APPnag
Mr SPICUI said be had the honour to reproset
Guarantee Manure Company, That Company saw
manures that went out and if it was not ac.orthog
anayleis which wee made ermerding to anne ci‘lo bit
cmattle.ra:ftfluld.theitiloumflOi.ttahand:heou:ohsittthierago.beane:set :erre.thi
we,:re,A.441.7
in the same way, it was most probable they would ha us
same satisfactory remit.
Mr. IiANCAIR next proposed the toast of the
eneupUn with it the names of Er, Seallard. ANel
—Frgiize by t.
were
estiLlfoing on oar
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Mow'

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