The Liverpool Standard and General Commercial Advertiser.
Liverpool, Merseyside, England, 1855-10-16 00:00:00

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TUESDAY, OCTOBER 16, 1855.

PLACARDS AND PERVERTS.

WE took occasion, some months ago, to condemn
the tone of a placard, bearing reference to the Romish
Doctrine of the Immaculate Conception, which ap-
peared at the time upon many of the walls of this
town : and within the last few days we have seen two
others, emanating from the opposite party, which
seem to us to call for animadversion and remonstrance,
---one on account of its matter, the other on account
of its manner. The first is put forth by a Mr. MAc-
DONALD, and contains a challenge to Protestants
generally to discuss publicly the doctrine of Tran-
substantiation, and the Invocation of Saints and
Angels ; and then proceeds to rate pretty roundly
certain parties, who are said to have asserted that
money is Mr. MA.CDONALD'S object in these discus-
sions. If any have said so, without sufficient founda-
tion for the charge, they are of course to be blamed.
Common charity requires us to give the same credit
for a desire to promote what he believes to be the
truth, to one side as to the other, unless we have
good reason for a contrary course. However, upon
this point we give no opinion ; though upon the face
of the document in question it would certainly appear
that Mr. MACDONALD, while ready to defend the
peculiar tenets of his Church, is not altogether without
an eye to business : for, not to notice the fact, that a
price is fixed for admission, in order, as it is said, to
defray expenses, it is announced that, at the con-
clusion, of the proceedings, subscribers' names will be
received for "the newspaper"---what newspaper does

not appear.
However, upon all this we make no comment.
What we do find fault with, is the bringing such sub-
jects into public discussion at all, as calculated to injure
religion generally. Controversy, alas ! is inevitable :
but let us not have it in that form in which it is
likely to produce the maximum of evil, and the mi-
nimum of good. Were the question to be settled a
metaphysical, instead of a religious one, we should
regard a public debate as next to useless for the pur-
pose of eliciting the truth, simply because frequently
more depends upon the readiness and fluency of the
speaker, than upon the goodness of his cause; and
when the question happens to be a religious one, and
the worse side is defended by the abler advocate, the
mischief resulting may be incalculable. But, besides
all this, the public discussion of such religious questions
cannot but engender both a captious and an irreverent
temper. He, who is in the habit of hearing this, that,
and the other alternately affirmed and denied ; sup-
ported by one passage of scripture, and opposed by
another; and scripture itself interpreted in various
ways, according to the preconceptions of those who
appeal to it---treated, in fact, to use the not very
reverent comparison of Pighius, like " a nose of wax"
gradually learn to question the most solemn
and fundamental verities. We can conceive no course
more calculated to lead an unlearned and irreligious
man step by step into downright infidelity. But,
supposing the evil to stop short of this, how can ir-
reverence be avoided ? how can they fail to become
accustomed to irreverence, who are in the habit of
frequenting or taking part in such discussions ?
especially when, as in the case before us, the debate
is not confined to two or more fixed upon beforehand,
but is open to all corners. We do not know how
Romanists feel: but we are quite sure that, if we
believed in Transubstantiation, we should regard it
as a most solemn and sacred subject, and should be
infinitely pained to hear its truth questioned, much
more to hear it treated as in the course of a promiscuous
public debate it almost certainly will be. This, it maybe
said,is more the Romanist's concern than ours. But we
maintain, that the ridicule and irreverence too fre-
quently employed upon such occasions must eventually
injure both parties. In attacking error with such
weapons we bring the truth into perilous contact with
them, to say the least. If error were wholly unlike
truth, the danger might not be so great ; but, religious
-error being a perversion of truth, and retaining its
likeness in many points, it is impossible to attack the
former with irreverence, without some danger of the
weapon employed glancing aside, and injuring the
latter. To illustrate our meaning by reference to one
of the subjects proposed for discussion by Mr.
IVIAcnoNALD : the Romanist understands the words
which our LORD used at the institution of the
Eucharist, in a particular sense. That sense we deny
to be the true one ; and we may, and ought to, defend
our denial reverently and with charity, when necessity
for doing so arises. But surely our feelings of re-
verence at the reception of the Eucharist cannot be
increased, while there is every danger of their being
diminished, by the recollection of the ridicule which
we may have heard poured out against the Romish
interpretation of those words, and which ridicule
must, in a greater or less degree, have become con-
nected in our minds with the words themselves. For
these and similar reasons, we deprecate such public
discussions as the one proposed; and, while we do not
question Mr. MA.CDONALD'S sincerity and honesty of
purpose, we cannot but regard him, and all who adopt
similar means for the like ends, pretty much in the
same light as we should regard an English soldier,
who should discharge his Minie at a Russian while i
his own commander was standing in the same line
with him. He might hit his enemy, but in such case
would probably hit his friend at the same time : and
just so we think that too many of the attempts made
by controversialists to beat down what they regard as
error, inflict most dangerous wounds upon religion
itself. _ _ _

'The other `placard, to which we have alluded, is one
-dittonncing a lecture at the (Roman) Catholic insti,
tute, by W. C. RPLATIRIN, Esq., late Dean of Moray
and Ross. This we consider to be in very bad taste,
and to convey an altogether gratuitous and uncalled-
for insult to the Church of which Mr. 11PLIURIN was
some time a minister and member, and by consequence
to the Church of England, which is in communion
with it. By styling himself " late Dean of Moray and
Ross," he proclaims himself to be a seceder from the
Scottish (Episcopal) to the Romish Church : and we
have observed a similar anxiety upon the part of other
t)erverts to make known their antecedents. We repeat,
that we regard this as exceedingly bad taste ; just as
we do the course pursued by many temperance orators,
who seem to take a morbid pleasure in making known
what drunkards they were formerly. Assuming that
Mr. RPLAURIN'S last change was sincere (we believe
that it was not his first), we should have expected that
he would feel too much sorrow and shame on account
of the many years spent in connexion with what he now
regards as heresy and schism, to permit him thus pub-
licly to blazon it. We cannot account for this ten-
dency, upon the part of our neo-Romanists, to proclaim
what, if they are sincere, they must consider their past
shame. There are many points in their general con-
duct which tend to prove a deterioration of feeling
and character consequent upon their perversion ; and
this, to our mind, has always appeared to be one of
the most striking.

But why gratuitously insult the Church which they
have left ? in which they sometime ministered, and
wherein their earliest and dearest friendships and con-
nexions must have been formed. We know that even
according to the Romish theory, itself a very lax one,
our baptisms are valid ; yet they actually go out of
their way to incur the risk of sacrilege, by rebaptisint.
perverts whom they receive from us. They sacrifice
their own theory for the sake of insulting the Church.
And, similarly, this sometime Dean of Moray
Rosa ostentatiously parades himself as W. C. M`LAr-
and
BIN, Esq., for the mere purpose of calling in question,

what every candid and well-informed Romanist admits,
the validity of our orders. Had his motive been any-
thing less than this, he might have announced him-
self as plain Mr., instead of going out of his way to
assume a title to which in all probability he has just
as little right as he has to that of Pope of Rome.
Petty attacks like this will not injure us, but they
show the animus of the party by whom they are made.
Attacks such as Mr. M`MicumALD's may injure us
by injuring religion generally ; and they also show
an animus upon the part of those in authority who
permit them. They are far too astute not to perceive,
that the blow which injures us must injure themselves
also : and bad, indeed, must be the spirit which urges
them to inflict it notwithstanding.

FROM OUR LONDON CORRESPONDENT.

MONDAY MORN/NG.

THE past week has been a busy one in the political gossip
factories of the metropolis. In those circles, rumours of dire
portent and awful significance have been thick as
The leaves that strew the brook of Valorobrosa.

These rumours had for their food,—whatever might be their
object,—an assertion that the terms of a political alliance,
offensive and defensive, had been agreed upon by Messrs'
DISRAELI, GLADSTONE, and BRIGHT, the object of which
was the immediate deposition of Lord PALMERSTON, the
disruption of his Cabinet, and the reinstalment of the two
first named gentlemen into office, aided by the homespun
statesmanship of the Manchester cotton-spinner. • Who were
to constitute the Dei minores of the tripartite " politicat
union" did not transpire, although the names of Sir JAMES
GRAHAM and Mr. SIDNEY HERBERT were freely given as
centurions in the motley cohort. Nor was it very clearly
stated what particular departments were to be allotted to the
adventurous chiefs, although it was generally surmised that
to brother BRIGHT would be assigned the administration of
the war department, from his uncompromising antipathy to
English feeling, and his practical familiarity with that branch
of the service emphatically known throughout the British
Islands as the " horse marines." The rumours referred to,
which were of curious fabric and most Protean form, were
believed to have had their origin in a leader which appeared
on Saturday week in that erratic, though clever paper,
The Press, understood, although it is now said erroneously,
to represent the Conservative party. In the article alluded
to, an elaborate attempt was made to show that circum-
stances, chiefly dependant on the fall of Sebastopol, have
so changed as to render it desirable to bring the war
to a conclusion, and strongly insisting on the inutility
of further prosecuting it, as all that was originally
contemplated by hostilities has now been aecoraplished.
The article argued plausibly that, by the punishment
already inflicted upon Russia, she has been sufficiently
humbled, while, by the destruction of her Black Sea fleet, and
the dismantling of Sebastopol, the integrity and safety of the
Turkish Empire is abundantly secured. To do more than this,.
the writer in The Press averred, would be to exceed the pur-
pose of the war; while any attempt to dismember the Russian
empire, so he called the retention of the Crimea, he maintained,
would be to depart from the justifiable objects of the war, and
to disturb the balance of power in Europe—any attempt at
whiCh, the writer in question said, would be resisted to the
death by Russia, and would, almost as a matter of certainty;
involve the whole of Europe in war.
An article, so Gladstonian in its sentiments, and so tho-
roughly Russian in its tendency, appearing in the columns of
a journal which, whetfier rightly or wrongly, was, by many,
supposed to speak the sentiments of the Conservative party,
and to be peculiarly the exponent of Mr. DISRAELI'S views,
attracted immediate and extensive attention. Scarcely had
the article referred to made its appearance; when it was repu-
diated in strong terms by the Standard, claiming to speak•
authoritatively for the Conservative body.. This was- pub.,
lished last Monday, and the Tines on Tuesday, true to its
instinct of appearing to lead by a tolerably early following,
came out with an oracular allusion to the subject of a new
coalition, in which the GLADSTONE and D/SRAELT elements
were freely mingled, but not before the sages- of the Clubs
had seriously talked the matter over, as something within the
range of extremest possibility. Having hinted at the proba-
bility of such a coalition, and found that the bare • ima-
gination of such a monstrosity had not done more- than
produce a good-humoured guffaw among those whose

opinions are worth having, while it had unloosed the
tongue of querulous senility, and roused: the wakeful
avidity of place-hunters of every degree, the Thunderer came
out strongly on the following day. Assuming his own hypo-
thesis to be correct, and naively taking his own insinuated
rumour for a well-authenticated fact, he, in the' second in-
stance, laid down the basis of the treaty by which the- hitherto
conflicting triumvirate were to unite for the furtherance of
their assumed common purpose ; and, like the renowned war-
rior in " Tom Thumb," he created political, giants- of great.
magnitude and importance, which he slaughtered without
mercy or remorse. The programme, says he, of the new party
is, the war was just and expedient when it was commenced,
but it has now changed its aspect, and having been prosecuted
successfully till the objects for which it was instituted' have
been accomplished, it ought at once to be concluded, and any

attempt now to prolong hostilities would be immoral and unjust..
The " view halloo" once given in this direction, the chase has
been followed up with wonderful alacrity by most of the.
metropolitan journals, which have alternately attacked ands
defended the proposed coalition, and the peace tactics on which
it is said to depend for its existence. The grounds of censure
and the anticipated chances of success or failure-which await
the foreshadowed new " union of the talents" vary according
to the idiosyncracies of the journals expressing, them. The
Globe virtuously stickles for the purity and• honour of public,.
men, and will not lend its ear or countenance• to so slanderous
an insinuation. The Post having now no,fixed object within::
the scope of its political vision beyond the• personal interest&
of Lord PALMERSTON, and instinctively trembling. far
anything which threatens that, cannot• be eve- the - telt),
but nevertheless comfortingly assures itself that if so mon-
strous a creation could have birth, it would consolidate the
power of the noble lord by the certainty with which so hor-
rible a combination would annihilate, all minor sections of
politics, and unite men of all political shades of opinion imtwo
great parties, the greatest of which, would, as a matter of
course, support the lively and sarcastic PREMIER. The
Standard, once more roused in rescue of the Conservative
phalanx, gives, on Vriday night, a. fiat contradiction: to the
rumour .

While the.confusion of tongues has been thus vivi*. exem-
plified among the journals, the wiseacres. who suck In, political
inspiration,, as they sip their wine, at the clubs,bove been
thrown into a desperate state of agitation by timeonflicting.
visions raised before their mental eye-sight.
meets. his fellow,
Now hope, now fear,, his bosom rending,

gives, equivocal expression to his thoughts by a significant-
shake of the head, to which, that of Lord Burteigh, in the
farce, bears no comparison in grave stolidity and emptiness,
but simulated wisdom. They cannot solve, the difficulty,;
they cannot master the position ; they am-unable to fathom
the depth, or to unravel the mystery uhich obscures. the
" coming event," and so portentously and dimly " casts its.
shadow before."
It is not a little singular to see so much anct:- such
venerable wisdom, put about by so trivial an affair. The
Press, during its,brief, but brilliant career, has. bcon noted,
foi a certain waywardness of waggery, and seems to take as
much delight in mystifying its sage contemporaries, and
puzzling the quid nuncs, as a mischievous urohin does, in
putting gunpowder in the bowl of an applewoman's tobacco,
pipe, and enjoying the consternation caused b4a its. explosion.
It has never, seemingly, entered into the heads of any or all,
of those who have been so mightily perplexed upon the sal),
ject, that the whole was a hoax, invented. to, test the extent of
popular credulity.
That the Conservative party could ever consort with
the sophistical, fast and loose, war and peace policy ad-
vocated by Mr. GLADSTONE, or fraternise with the levelling
and aggresive dogmas of Mr. BRIGBT, are propositions too
monstrous to call for serious contradiction. Is there any
evidence then, that, any of those who have been honoured
with confidence by the party, as leaders, have given indica-
tion of such treason to their principles ? Certainly no symp-
toms of such dereliction of principle are to be found in the
declaration of Lord DERBY, made the other day at Eglinton
Castle, to the municipal authorities of Irvine :—" England,',
said his lordship, " will never sheathe the sword, which she
has so reluctantly drawn, until the noble and disinterested
designs of the Allies have been completely obtained, the inde-
pendence of Turkey secured, and the schemes of Russia upon
Europe and Asia effectually checked." What said the Royal
DUKE, the kinsman of our QUEEN—the gallant leader of our
brave soldiers, while, but yesterday as it were, partaking of
the municipal hospitalities of munificient Liverpool ? " I
have been much gratified," said his Royal Highness the Duke
of CAMBRIDGE on the occasion referred to, " by the state.
ment that although the great commercial town of Liverpool
is deepleinterested in a return of peace, one sentiment alone
pervades the whole community—and that is, a determination
"txrPmeveru-in-the war in which the country is engaged, at
all hazards and at every sacrifice, until its object is attained.
In that sentiment I entirely coincide; and I have a strongly-
rooted opinion that a peace concluded at the present moment
would not be an honourable, durable, and lasting peace
Until such a peace can be concluded, I am for carrying on the
war with all possible-vigour and determination, and I am

gratified to find that this also is the opinion of the inhabi-
tants of Liverpool." This explicit and unmistakeable de-
claration of the royal and gallant soldier was made in the
presence and hearing of the Earl of DERBY, and the Right
Hon. Mr. WA,LPOLE, both looked up to and recognised as
leaders in the Conservative cause, yet neither of them offered
a word in explanation or modification of the views expressed
by the illustrious speaker; yet, both spoke after him. Other
Conservatives, of weight and authority with the party and with
the country, have likewise spoken out in relation to the only
terms on which peace can be honourably concluded, in phrases
equally strong and unequivocal with those alluded to. Under
such circumstances, who, that is not blinded by party preju-
dices, can for a moment entertain the idea of a coalition
between the Conservatives and those who, affecting to believe
the war a just and necessary one, yet, secretly believing in its
inutility and injustice, pretended to carry it on with spirit and

efficiency, while starving it in reality, and tints practically
playing into the hands of the enemy ? The idea of their
adopting the principles advocated by Mr. BRIGHT and his

three followers in the House of Commons is not less ridien
lons nor more absurd,

If the mere rumour of monstrous political coalitions have
excited so much stir on all hands, it is not less singular that
a dangerous political combination should have been formed in
our metropolis, having for its objects the assassination of
sovereigns, the subversion of thrones, and the general spread
of devastation and bloodshed, without having caused even the
lightest semblance of disapprobation. Such, however, is the
case. A meeting was, it seems, lately held in John-street,
Fitzroy-square, London, to commemorate the. proclamation of
the French. Republic of 1792. The proceedings- of this meet-
ing are published in a Jersey paper, and, from it the public
will learn the name and at least some of the avowed objects
sought to beattained by the meeting and, those who consti-
tuted it. Its style is the Commune rivolutionaire; and the
Comiti into-national. This meeting expressed• the highest
regard- and.respeet for PiLIIFORI, the vile assassitywho 'recently
attempted to murder the EMPEROR of the French:- In honour.
of this execrable elitiff the Commune revolutinnaire' andl
Comittt international intends to present its members with)
medals; What may betheparticular device adopted for. the'
medal intended to honour the assassin, is not mentioned in the
report; brit some idea muy'lie guessed at as to itsimport' from,
the fact that the English medalist employed to execute 'the
order scrupled to do so on account of some weak prejudice he
entertained against the legend the Red men proposed',
to inscribe on. the &ergo.; and, from the further fact,
that in his• speech at opening the meeting the'
chairman urged his audience' to' Be penetrated with,
the maxim that` it was their ditty,- as it would be their
honour—" to kill Einperors and Tangs:" To break up such a
Comiti internaticnal as one which, counsels and inculcates
the honour and duty of killing Kings nut Emperors, ought
not surely to be looked on as too great an interference with
the "liberty of the subject." Assuredlyitis so prostitution of
our free laws which perthits the metropollicithisgreat empire
to be converted into a city of refuge fortnen.who, employ their
time and exercise their `'ingenuity in .organizinw schemes of
wholesale murder, and who rank 'assassination among the
class of honourable deeds.,

Among the intimations—within the lass few days,. prolific
as- they hive been in intelEgenee or comments of interest, few
havetranscended in general importance the long anticipated and
popularly talked of conditioe of the Empress EVCiENIE... Her
public position and personal history, combinedlwith her:recent
and. unexpected elevation to tlethrone of a 'great and pcpu-
ions empire; her congeniality of deportment ; and her recent
visit to this country, as well as the marked courtesy-and 14nd-
ness•displayed by her to our own beloved Sovereign--,in, Paris,
have conspired to invest her domestic and family -relations
with-an interest to the B ritish people not usually accerdedi-by-
them•t6 .the consorts of foreign potentates. The r.nnounce,--
merit, therefore, recently made in official form, that she
promises an heir to the throne recently achieved by her- in-
domitable husband, has en Sated an ,interest- here' unusual in
such Matters: The import int event which, within the• neat
four months, will occur in x• eference to the future dynasty of
France, is-one- of no ordinary character. It is -one which
may involve consequences of the deepest 'import to France,
to Europe,• and. to the world. If the 'auspicious •promise
should eventuate in the bird L of a male • heir, and the life-of
the infant beprolouged to meet the cares of manhood and.
of:state, an additional link will hare-'been •established-hi.
France for thepeaceful seeurit, yof Europe. The sou (if sotrit
should be) of 151.inonnom iIL will have ,to take his placeas
one of the leading.characters c d European -history under cir-
cumstances of no ordinary n ature. Born in all human
probability hewill be within th e purple chamber of Imperial,
rank, but it is fir from, certs in that ho -will therefore be
destined to a life-of regal splered 'our andk of personal ease. If
the life of his strong,minded an d iron-willed father be pre.,
served until the son shall. reach the age of manhood, many of;
the diffidulties of his situation a ill, douttless, by that time
have been removed but 'vent the n, therewill• still be enough:
left to keep hire humbly and, it is to be hoped, submissively-
dependant on that,PrOvideneewhi ch has set- his remarkable-'
father aside as the instrument of great things. In France.
many difficulties have yet to' be o sntendecl •with. Her social,
system, so often•and sefiercelysha ken within 'a recent period,
will still for, many years,to,come; and underveven the most
favourable circumstances): present l; numerous, • elements of-
aontention, andlmany, instruments ,of strife: To modify and,'
assuage these is-an object of such vital interest to the civilised
world, that all, who wish' well, to their species must feel the
liveliest anxiety in-.7thatevent which at an early period of the-
approaching year may, crown the-he pes of tae Intperial Hoare -
of France.

The conduct Tof.thewar stilt fitrnishes abundant food form
ftection and remark iodittelligent men of every rank in life:.
The actual value of: the alliedi conquests in thoerimea is even-.
to this hour-am:tatter of. doubt.. In gaining,the city and the:
whole southern shore. of :the. creek on whiela Seba.stopci:
situated, many wet-informed parties maintaiva that we have
scarcely, gained loafs the, battle:. These parties. point signif..,
cantly to the fact-that-the. Russians continue, masters of the
strong _fortresses on, thenorth, which in a.‘great degree .con..
mand the town —that:so far from manifes tinwany, disposition t
evacuate them, they are busy- its strengtheniug and exter.ding.:.
them—end that,se,itis,.theirfire has been sufficient to cause:
us to abandon a portion of the captured town. To this-it is.
.answered,, and with equal ground of con:Edema- and more .of
joy, that the cannonade which; has indu2ed'the.Allies to aban..
don :the Kgrabalnaia,suburbo has never teen- of a formidable •
character, and that-the p/acehas been abandoned more as, a.
mattar of convunience, andi to avoid unnecessary casualitieed
thenkin obedienee.to.thepower of the enemy—that the• Ras-.
sian, army is, already- mach straitened for • provisions.
and, storea—that these will become daily more
cult, of accesa.to< them—that they acknowledge themselves
to be now menaced, on the line of Perekop, and are threatened
oa., their communications with Sim: .Iteropol—that these are-
the only, points. whence they derive supplies, or, cauexpect to.
receive reinforcemes4a—that with these, positions, scoured cur
armies may rest in security, and allow the, winter• and
tion to work„ their Way in extermiimiirlethe Russionlorees in

the Crimea. Considerable dissatWuction has bee..n. xpressed
here in different %tasters, at the paucity of information afforded
in reference to tbooperations of both the fleet. and ,the army.
It is, however, now generally ni.iderstood that thQoperations
in progress with both these arms of, the sell* are of a stra-
tegic, character, and depend much on secresy for their chances
of sump, and that enngaquen,t on this the Allie4co, ders
have resolved to restrict the 7n ,ans of written, cowman tit=
frem,the seat of war.
The cold sharp breezes and lengthening nights of October
are _beginning to drive the.. tourist and sportsmen from the
heathery-hill sides and see-beaten cliffs. and, coasts, to take
refuge In " The Wen," as Conerrx used, to.call the leviathan
metropolis. To meet the requirements .of these " homeward.
veering" denizens, London is becoming. once more instinct
with life and promise.. The extensiVepublishers have begun
to issue their note of preparation for the corning winter. Two
new volumes of Mkcaxrray's. History of England are pre.
mised by LoNGY,aars.for December, and the same firm inti=
mates the publication at an early date of Dr. BARTH'S Travels
in Africa, and a,Narrative of Captain NCLunz's voyage. in
Discovery of -the North. West Pa.ssage. The conclusion, of
GROTE'S History of Greece is promised by MURRAY, who like-
wise annolnces a long list of Travels in Palestine and other
quarters,. including " A, Bird's-eye View of India," by Sir
ERSICIXE Pnanr. BENTLEY wooes attention to his, list of
announcements, which, inter ilia, include the finishing vo-
lume of Lord JOHN. RUSSELL'S Memoirs of CHARLES, JAMES.
Fox, which, it is probable, his Lordship, being, now relieved
from the cares of office, will afford him solace in his" learned
leisure." The theatres are opening wide their portals, and
displaying their manifold attractions to an intelligent and
admiring public. At the Princess's, CRA.BLES KEAX is said
to be preparing a Greek play, with which he expects to take
the town by surprise.

A TAVISTOCS RM.—Twenty pounds appears to be con-
sidered by a Tavistock jury the price of breaking the thigh-
bone of a servant girl, and laming her for life. Jane Hubbis-
ton, a girl of fifteen, was servant to a Mrs. Northey, who not
being pleased with the agility of her domestic, in carrying
some clothes up-stairs to mangle, knocked the girl down and
thrashed her with a cane. The next morning Hubbiston was
in such pain that she could not work, and was sent home,
when a medical man declared her thigh broken. An action
for £5O damages, the highest amount attainable in a county
court, was brought by the girl's mother against the master
and mistress. The latter partially denied the facts, declared
the girl was lame when she came to her, and was of a germ,.
lons habit. The surgeon admitted that the latter might have
made the bone more brittle, but did not believe it accounted
for the lameness. The judge summed up favourably to the
plaintiff, and the jury gave the verdict recorded.

ATTENDANCE AT ST. JOHN'S CHURCH.

TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANDARD

Sia.,—My attention his been called to a tabular statement
which appeared in the Mercury of Sept. 28th, in which the
statistics of St. John's Church were put down as follows :
Official return of Numbers actually Counted.
Seat Room. Average attendance. Morning. . Evening.
2,000 1,500 1,007 1,003

Now on this statement, which is grossly inaccurate, I beg
to remark—

First : That the seat room is over-estimated. by 500.

St. John's Church will seat in pews and side seats only
1,100; on forms and stools, by close packing, 400 more;
total 1,500.
Secondly The numbers attending are under-stated by at
least 200 in the morning, and 500 in the evening.

On Sunday evening, the 7th inst., and Sunday morning, the
14th, the churchwardens and eight respectable members of the
congregation, two at each door, counted the people as they
leisurely left the church. No previous intimation of our
intention to do sa Was given them. The numbers counted
were, 1,503 in the evening, and 1,204 in the morning. The
evening congregation wasabout an average—thl morning con-
gregation decidedly not so, at least in the gallery. I appeal
to the congregations then' present.
I think it right to add that there was no special attraction
to make the congregations larger than usual on the occasions
referred to. I am, it is true, going through a course of lec-
tures on the Articles of the eh-MTh on Sunday evenings; the
fourth of which was delivered on the evening of the 7th' inst.,
and was, therefore, announced at the previous service, as were
the three' lectures which preceded it, and that on Sunday even-
ing last; also. But this is nothing news it is my usual prnr
tice to have a course of sermons on hand, once on the Sunday
morning' or evening. e. y. I delivered a course of 14 on sue--
cessive Sunday mornings, in the early part of this year, on
" The Divine Philosophy of History," and my present course
will extend over thirty-nine.
Thirdly : That whilst the seat room in' St. John's is set
down at 2,000; that of St. Paul's, St:• Paul's-square, is
given at 1,650'0n1y.

Now, the area of St. Paul's Church is about 2,500 feet
greater than that of St. John's, and its seat accommodation
proportionally greater:- The Act of Parliament under which
it was built enacted that two ministers should ben.ppointed to
it, as "it was built on a'spacious and large planer design, and
therefore too much for' One-;" whilst for the smallr'Chutich of
St. John's only one was provided.
Fourthly : Irrespective 'cif the actual numbers gilen in the
Mercury, it is notorious that the evening congregation
of St. John's is very ranch ia7ger than the morning :• to
make, as has been done,', the evening congregation less
than the morning, or even-onlyas large, except in- eases of
heavy rain, is wholly inacettrate,
Fifthly : It is not correct to consider the separate services,
In a Roman Catholic chapell as' consisting of so many-dis-
tinct congregations, but thOsein the church of the' same,.
for—
; 1; It is-well known that many- liiimarr Catholics attend i;tro.
Or three masses at a time—some ar6'obligvi to attend all afrx
j 2: It iS.a. fact that a large proportiOn of the morning con;
gtegatien of St. John's do not attend in the evening.
SNthly: There' are often on the. Sunday evening in the,
winter, AMY persons in St. Jobn's'Churab, every foot of '
space being occupied, the children obliged to sit on the- •
steps of thepulpit and reading-deslA or- en the floor of
the 'church,- and many persons obliged, to stand, as was
the case last evening—when, had the numbers been taken,
there could' not certainly have been less than 1,600'. It
nitt4t be 'borne in mind, that long before a church is
racked in thin- manner, the heat and. vitiated atmos-
phere become-intolerable. For several, Sunday evenings
past, -many persons have been obliged to leave the
charch,nnd many others, seeing the atate.ofthe chureh,
absolutely refuse•to enter.

In concittsion; I. have-taken this matter or. public-grounds,
and as a deity which.y owe-tolhe cause of God and,lrkt,ehurch.
I believe St: John's-Church an eminent precfnf. the excel-
lency of the Church, and. State connexions, when. properly
worked; for through ,as operation we are abk to- afford seat
room to IMO' of the poorer people, where they May hear the
gospel of Christ; free eallichaxg..e. It is contrary- to. feet, to
say that the poor do not appreciate free accommedation, 7.: they
do, but it must be offered- to them as it is- ins St.. 313 fin's
Churchwithout rending-At-with the badge of poverty.,=with-
out forcing painfully upon, them. the invidious, distinction of
caste and class; as is the case in all the proprietary churches
and chapels im-thei town. Give• the poor the pure ?gospel! of
Christ, and give it as its great Originator intended it
to er-
free of all charges; save what a, grateful heart multi, robin-
tarily bestow in the weekly, offertory of the Churehror Hy
private or national endowmentrand the most effeotttat .means
would be taken: to uocompliih the. mural regeneratiou.:of the
country.

W: 11: TAYLOR, LL.134',-'
15th Oct., 1855:- Incumbent of St-John' ea.
We hereby certify-that the foregoing statement: k,to-churobt
accommodation and attendanceat St John's Churchcis eorreot.
GEO. MCKEON, Churchwardens,
T. P. GWATKIN.

KOSSUTH, MELIZINI, AND, JLEDRU RO'ELIM

TO THE EDITOR OF THE LIVERPOOL STANDIIita,

SIR,—I think you will agree, with-me-that the time-has•now
arrived when this conntryshouldno.lbnger harbour and .give-
shelter to the three - deinagognes). IT.ossuth, Mazzini, and
Ledru Rollin, and a host of conspirators. When they fiilW
sought our shores; in,theAgarb• of patriots, we tolerated and
some measure sympathised iwitliithem; but they and! their
followers have now thrown off their.mask, and shown; them-
selves in their true characters:- Their-object is civil waz-to the •
knife—blood ! They avow it. . They have, within the Als.
days, proclaimed it to atirope.- They, have a free press. in the:-
Island of Jersey, part' of. the • Make& IC.mgdom, by whith,
means they propagate.--their -odious;. social, and bloody. doestrines, Is this justice-to ourselves-F. is-itinstice to Europe,or
is. it nstice to the Emperor, of the Trench. ? It is not so,longt
since one of these rascals, left these-• shores; and attempts&
assassinate the Emperor-of-the French, Are we, let me-ask,',
to-wait till another attempt, be made; it may be a fatab ones,•
before we do a simple act, -of justice• to-oar friend ami
The- London press is.atirring in the-matter ; let not the- Piro
viintial press be behin&hand.: Once-get up the cry, and' the.
Government will be- compelled , to--act as• they did durreg,the
late war.—Your obedient servant,..
A FRIEND tOF THE.. HRENCH ALLIANCRe.
'Change, 15th Oct., 1856.;