The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
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Hawkesley, that, with ordinary care, and with •
sufficient number of people, it would take to carry
out the drainage without causing an extra amount of
expense It is • rather awkward questlon to
ask.

Mr. HAWKESLEY : About 12 months, 1 should
think, if the works are put in the hands of a good
contractor of competent means and reasonable
energy.
Mr. HAAN : Yoa have seen all the plans in this
matter /
Mr. HA.WKESIAY : No, I have not. I have seen
the survey of Mr. Bury, but there are no sections
connected with it.
Mr. HARE : What ! are there no sections?
The TOWN CLERK : No.

Mr. HARR. Would you propose going as deep u
Mr. Bury!
Mr. HAW/MUM : I have no idea. I have not seen
the sections. •

Mr. HARE : There were details of the report
written by him; but I do not know if you have seen
them ; I have.
Mr. HOWARD: He was paid £BOO for them. What
plane where they ?
The TOWN CLERK : It was only £5OO.
Mr. HARE: They were approved by the Board ;
but I think Mr. Hawkeeley ought to see if the papers
are worth anything or not.
Mr. HOWARD: Moat certainly.
Mr. Bliss: I expect Mr. Hawksaley will act
independent of them.
The MAYOR: I suppose if Mr. Hawkesley had
them in his possession he would read them.
Mr. HAWILEELEY : I always read everything. It
must be a poor paper if I cannot get some useful
information from it.
Mr. POTRICARY : Has Mr. Bury's plans been
settled for. _

The TOWN CLERK : Yes, so far as the plans are
concerned; but there might arise • per oentage
claim if his plan was carried out.
Mr. HARE: These papers contain the details of
his plan, and an estimate for carrying out the works.
The TOWN CLERK : They may; but there are no
drawings. If Mr. Hawkesley likes to see them I
will furnish bins with them. .

Mr. HAWKESLEY : Are they the result of exami-
nations made upon the strata!
Mr. HARR : The papers are very lengthy, being
about a dozen pages of foolscap.
Mr. HAW/LESLEY : There must be something
useful in that. .

The MAYOR: Having paid the £5OO, do yon wish
for the papers to be placed in Mr. flaw kesley's hands?
Several Voices: By all means.
Mr. THOMAS: By your plan, would it be necessary
for the drains to be flushed? _ .

Mr. HAWICULEY gave the Board to understand
that a large quantity of water in a field near St.
John's Church might be made available for flushing
the drains. _

Mr. THOMAS You would not systematically
flueh them then
Mr. HAWICUSLET You have not the means for
systematically flushing them, and I am quite sure the
drains, if properly conetructed, would flush them.
selves. I see no reason for laying down a scheme for
systematic flushing. The Water Company could not
give you sufficient water necessary for the purpose.
Mr. THOMAS : An idea has spread throughout the
town that it would be necessary to have the Water
Company's water for flushing purposes. Thst is
one of those floating monsters in the public mind
which requires to be removed.
Mr. Haas What would be the distance between
the ventilating shafts.
Mr. HAWHESLILY : About 209 yards.

Mr. Hass : Would the gas be- dangerous.
Mr. HAWEESLEY : The shafts are to establish the
same pressure in the sewers as in the atmosphere,
became if that is not done the water closets will he.
come unsealed, and the effluvia will escape into the
houses.

Mr. HARE : If there is a draught, then the
effluvia will not go into the houses?
Mr. HAWRRALRY : There would be no draught
here, because the place is so level.
Mr. HARE: What part of the streets, looking at
the matter careorily, would you lay the sewers ?
Mr. Ilswassxxx In the centre. You must keep
away as much as possible from houses.
Mr. HARE: Would you use glaze pipes?
Mr. HAWLSRLRY : No—brick pipes. Glaze pipes,
in the first place, are not economical; and in the
next place they will not be large enough, but they
would do for a short drain.

Mr. HARE: I am glad to hear you say that, be-
cause I do not like these pipes.
Mr. Hawimstsv They are subject to many
diseases peculiar to themselves. Theoretically, glaze
pipes are very well, but in practice they do not
answer so welL _

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Mr. : Would there be any smell from the
ventilation shafts to persons passing by?
Mr. Elswiestsv : I do not apprehend there
would be. AU the gully holes would be trapped.
There must be some ventilation, otherwise there will
be a greater smell caused than the sewers are
intended to prevent
Mr. HARR : The gas would go into the houses
instead of the streets. . .

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Mr. ATLIB : Might not the diisastrons stair at
Croydon be attributed to that cause?
Mr. HAWILISLIY : Yes, it may. In answer to
another question he said in a good wide open court,
where there was • well-constructed and water-tight
closet, in which ashes might be mixed with the soil,
it was much better than a water-closet for the work-
ing-classes, because children got in these places, and
threw down brickbats and old shoes; and water
closets were continually in a bad state without they
were well attended to. . .

Mr. Hi!WARD : The £lB,OOO only embodies the
laying down of the sewers, and not the expense of
connection with property?
Mr. HAW/MUER : Yes, that is all. The other
belongs to householders.
Mr. HOWARD: Do you think £16,000 would be
all the Corporation would have to pay?
Mr. H•wasstxr : I have not had the means
of making a correct estimate, but I should think so.
Mr. HOWARD: There would be, you think, no
et Nitrite of £2,000 or £3,000.
Mr. HAwILMILEY : Oh, no.
Mr. HOWARD; If your plans are carried out, do
you think there is the slightest chance of it?
Mr. HAWIRMAY t No.
Mr. HOWARD said that some years ago
the Smalmouth Sands were well covered with
sand, but now it was washed away, and there
was nothing but clay rocks. That was owing
to the tide setting in there; and supposing the tide
was to drift the sewage into the harbour, did Mr.
Hawkealey mean to say that no evil effects of it
would be felt?
Mr. HAW/UMW/ : No, lam perfectly oonfident of it.
Mr. IiuWARD : This being a bathing-place than
would not be any chance of some little black specks
floating about?
Mr. THOMAS: Mr. Hawkesley had told them
that at Brighton the sewage was carried into the sea.
Mr. POTHROART : There is good sea room there;
it is not hemmed in with • bay.
Mr. HAwILISSLIT : If there was not good sea
room, and a considerable current there, it would not
have answered.

Mr. HOWARD : Sometimes our bay is SS smooth
as possible, and there is no current at all.
Mr. HARR : Supposing this sewage is brought
into the bay in bad weather with some of the sea-
weed, would it not be offensive then?
Mr. HAY/BRALEY : Not in the least degree. Sere
weed is • solid body which floats on the surface, and.;
is cast ashore, whereas the sewage would be mixed
up as sugar is in tea.
Mr. HOWARD : How far from the shore would
you carry the sewage
Mr. HAvuttswilt : It would be carried along the.
rocks in pipes for 200 yards.
After a few further remarks, Mr. HAWIZEILIT'
said if they could take the sewage over the Chola'
Bank so much the better. What he was endeavour-,
lug to do was to make the most reasonable report'
in his power, but he did not expect to make a
perfect one.
Mr. HOWLED: What we want to know is,
whether we can carry out the drainage of the town
well, and at a moderate met, or let the plaos remain
as it is at present.
Mr. POTHRCARY remarked that where the drainage
was proposed to be let out wee a very favourite
place for visitors to fish.
After • few remark' on this subject had been ex-
pressed, the M•eoe., on behalf of the Board,
tendered hie thanks to Mr. Hawkealey for the kind
and courteous manner in which be had answered
their questions, and the proceedings terminated.
The following letter, received from Alderman
Eliot, and addressed to the Mayor, was read:—
Weymouth, Friday Evening.
Mt DIA KM —I much regret the weather prevents
me meeting you this evening. lam afraid to venture
out. Mr.llawkesley will. no alonlit, place before yen his
plan and approzimate estimate. It mama to me that
the beet plan will be to wart and suspend any further
I proceedings for the present; it will rive us time fully
and maturely to consider well over tins plan so that '
We may not some to an hasty decision, and the town
will also become acquainted with the plan and estimate.
Besides, another reason for delay is, that Brighton and
Whitehorse are now about being drained under the
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i no doubt in the approaching Session of Parliament the
sewage question will be thoroughly ventilated, and we
may derive some benefit from it. I therefore recommend
that we proceed no further at present.
Yours very truly,
WILLIAM