The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
Dorchester, Dorset, England, 1869-03-23 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

111,1,0AT.-111 answer to a question respeottng the
public avowal by the Rev. Mr. Shenaban, • Roman
Catholic priest at Limerick, that " he was a Fenian in
hie heart. and so was every priest in Ireland," Mr.
Fortissimo endeavoured to explain the etateetent by its
contest, and styled it " heedless rhetoric" rather than
Menem. The &dewed Schools Bill was read a second
'tile, and referrod to • select ounitaitteet ; and the
Ilat.reraitv Testa Bill was read a @mold time, altar an
:guinea...fel attempt to adjourn the debste.
'rUZSDAT.—Mr. Leathers, mowed that th• select corn•
mittee oh the mod. of conducting elections be instructed
to report upon the most efficient and convenient system
of voting by ballot. After mine dimtuision, In the
averse of which Mr. Gladstone pointed out that the
terms of the misting instruction were comprehensive
enough to include all Mr. Le.thatu asked for, the motion
was withdrawn. Mr. Whalley's motion for the union-
dittoes! repeal of the income tax on trade profit. and
personal property of all kinds, and that any deficiency
be raised by Mamma tax on land and fixed property,
was laughed out.
WIISHISaDaT.—The two first bills by which Mr.
Norwood sought to extend the juriedistion of the
County Court. to admiralty business, and to amend
• proviaion in the existing County Courts Aot, which
eompels a suit for an amount under /50 to be
brought in the district court of the defendant, In a
manner collapeed ; for in the event they were port. '
posed with • sort of indefiniteness as to time, though
the first of May was Iliad for their resumption. Next
came Mr. Monk with his bill, a supplement to that of ,
last year, to enable persons in the Revenue D•pmtment '
te vote at elections. The proposed measure supplies
what Mr. Monk cella en omission in the other Act, In.
umuch as those persons are still under penal disability
, to mit in elections as etuavaasers. committee men, and
• speechmakers, and they feel it • grievenes to be allowed
only a naked vote. The rejrction of the bill having
moved by Mr. Pease, at 000 s Mr. Lowe (who bad
•befeevai is. papers and other indications of a pronounoed
and mlogent speech) room to second the motion—an
nnueual proceeding on the pert of • minister. He
began by drawing &distinction between the iambi in
the Civil &nice Department, whom he demribed as ,
mere sedentary letter-writers in Louden, and the
collectors of sixty milliuns of revenue, who are always
actively mixing with the people In O•er th• country,
and cohave peculiar Iseilitiee for acting as political
agents in the most objectionable sense. This
Is no sentiniimtal matter; for @hada suspicion
arise the sleet will be to weaken the authority of the
department cm their °Meer& If allowed to take an
active part in elimetioes, the tendenoy would be to bold
out farther temptation to corruption, and we might
some to that in knedand which had been the bane of
America—s politisal petty eolleeting the revenue—
(cheers). Let well alone, and don't let WI advance one
step Missed. sue& a Meager (cheers). The Prime
Minister made a poculi&rly earnest and emphatic speech
against the bilL Notable were his first words, when
he said that he bad heard that the members of the Civil
Service voted &S the general election with the then
.Ministry, bemuse they looked on him as • toe rigorous
Finance Minister. If this was true, it was to the
party opposite a source of weakness rather than of
s•resigth • for, if they were strong with that class, they
would b. proportionately weak with the public at
large. When the House was clearing for a division.
It was evident that the ddectioes of Liberal members
from the Government were few; for Us. "noes" who
came front the Ministerial benches showed se inlet',
and in the result the *mond reading was rejected by
207 to 88. The Libel Bill, which Lae been before the
House for several sessioes, having been taken op by
Mr. BAnee, that woodman elaborately &flitted its
provisions, which are in the main the relieving pro.
prietors of newspapers from the responsibility of whet
mey be defametory matter when it Is published bone
fide and without meliee. The rejection of the bill was
moved by Rt. Newdegate. It was Mr. Ayrton's
iege—perhaps his one —to talk the bill 001st a quarter
to six.

Tienaidthr.-Flefore the Speaker took the chair, the I
• area of the House proper was densely thronged with
members; and there was considerable bustle and noise.
After that there was comparative quiet, broken sow
sad then by "light tumbling cheers when • petition
either for or against the Irish Church was preseatad.
No grating of any kind was given to Mr. Disraeli-who
in • manner was to be the hero of the erening-as be
walked up to his plata and altogether there seemed to
be abrence of particular excitement. As 'morally
happens on greet eights, there was • long array of
questions, but few, if any of them, were, to use the
reonveational phrase, of public interest' whilst the list
was somewhat weeded, owing to the isber.nce of some
oI the interpelistore. There was a petlect flood of
petitions against the disostsblishment of the trial',
Chinch, some gentlemen being physioslly emborraved
to bold large boodles of them. Whet with one obe'.rne.
tioa and nes other, it WAS SOU minutes punt Sp:, when
Kr. Gladstone simply moved the resit:4 of the
Irish Church Bill. Forthwith F.r. Disraeli rose, and
certainly the cheering which rause front about and
behind was hearty as well as Iseg. Inc citations' son.
of voice, and with a errtc!..o pomp of demeanour,
be began with • sketch of he misery of this ...try
deride the Steele wart. the Protectorates and the
Restoration, with • • iew, as It seemed, to show
how " gigantic isatios;' ought not to be dealt with ;
mid he counselled • Aeration, mutual forbearance, and
• sonfuten altdrret'ading of the words disestablishment
and disendownicat. He then declared that be was
opposed to dim rimbliehment, because he was in (moor
of the anion. Of Cherub and State. On this text he
oromedoi to chow that the Church religiously in.
inencod "dm State, and how the Church became in the
highest seam political. A good deal was said, some.
teirst senteatioasly, of the influence which religion
r.agfet to have on Government, the triple sounding
Irmiliar, and like the echoes of his speeches on the
Irish Chunk question last year, though now be took a
.higher night, and talked of the experience of I
iphilosopheis, which taught them that there was
trameendootal point at which the intellest of man WY
met by the Insoluble; end at this point religion began.
The doctrine in question was worked out fully, the
IWIWUCOOI culminating in an insertion that an irreliglocs
pelioy meld not be serried out by a Government, and
that It was owing to an Eitabliabed Church that we
aujey toleration and religions liberty. This was
illestrated by a suppositious case of a Dissenter-of
.bed character, it must be taken-who, egoommunisated
.and cast out by his own community, mold rot be
irefeeed adminion to the bosom of the Established
Church. Descending from the sort of empyrean
through which he had been winging s rhetorical
eight, he said in plain language, that diem•
dewing a Church was mere robbery. Then there
came a good deed about the appropriation of treat
by attest" sad the confiscation by • Govern-
rrO•Pril the property of fat corporation*, and he dwelt
oa the Deposal esloraity which invariably followed on
Penlieratim of property, end of thumb property in
particsolar. All this time he was lecturing rather than
speaking Parliaaneeterily, so that his friends were
invelantmily quiet; oply breaking out into a obese
-when Ise wound himself up to a burst against thumb
spoliation. A description of IMAM, political and
social, ersdleg with a statement that that country was
on the •holo diseeetented and disorderly, was more In
Hr. Disraeli's better style; and ha grew elfPlitrenunetle
when be spoke of the Government motion securing
enter in Ireland by barb's thrsedisestoblished churches,
and here his manner 'Mange& and be become airy and
ellfrislY emphatic., especially when he spoke of the
aisestaidished Protestant churchmen beaming • third
net of exponents of the diamotent of the land, and he
Lid down that this clergy of all three churches will mite
in one dogma at least-that they have all been in-
trusted. In • le m demonstrative way, it was griped
that the only reams for the condecation of the property
ef She Protestant Meech was that the Catholic Murat I
had nom. lie was facetious on the application of this
principle of forfeiture to private property. In Dolma
there are missy estates-many large and many rich-:
and most of them belonging to Irish gentlemen whom I
we km.. But there are Irish gentlemen in Ireland,
roost amiable and moomplithed men, most excellent
empanions, who ham not marks that are large or
rice-(laeglster). Where would your estates be -
illaughter)-after the announcement of this startling
principle of sheer forfeiture, without the application
of thist forfeiter' to any purpose that would carry out
the oriental intention of the founder? After the pm-
Almada' by the right boocarable gentleman of this
neteendlnd priociple, whet would be the natural
mane which the Trish gentlemen in such a pennon
would punnet This is • serious matter, and
it is ooly by really testing the principle in
this manner that you can discover the validity
01 the precedent which you are now melds"
to sathlish. The argument would be this. The artab
patleum in the unfortunate position which elicits'
the laughter of the bon. gentlemen opposite would
come to the IIIDIOUr bad Mat. "Ws al° °will". In
es mouselous pontioe-(loud laughter). Our breeding
Is not hierifir to that of our hobitgal ocaspeaioesr-our
eascatiee is the same- our permits are similoa-wo
mese Is the mme bunting Geld, we drink the same
glereo-(lsoghter)--we stolid otecelte tO each """ mc
aks MOO deem tied our feelings are hurt that eetne of
our sompanion• Dave estates of moo°, oe
sKOOO • year, band aores and extensive woods., We
know Will the spirit of the spate which welt,., whit*
Is an enlightened ag•-flauthter). We know that the
sestiment 51 madmen Is set or • moment be be
winetig-flengliterl. We deal ark for the ae
oar more fortunate ercapaniesa All that we =et
you should *eke the* estates away fres thew •
Isla one of year great menearee of Irish
and social equality, and let all Iricts eoothoooo_
like the Dish Boman Catbolie Citarsh.r-IW.
apse volantori rontributi"-(mis letter).
He ironicelly sagfellod a like moose to is
the bill in regard be the andoersk hospital. m
ea them on eetedtutioblt7 with th_esiff=
ia
cc ceder to
voluntary sort a The lOneo.
wale set to the Irish Clterob to islerrnie In the
embisti.• of gigleplgegierig were treated in • leme ei
that there meld uot_l the
beater ; bet the be
arrangements el the ad lime In
at eadownmat of the •47.4:11
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of dog.
Men" WM. Imb mamigbein that
matimpy, mesa to
OM 'Rammed seg?kaltber , tino: toe
CinliPtuls:=,aa tb. Zeit Interests el that
lastitutien at fourtem years' or Mee ones=
to the de
Mame; end an animated
from lb, Miami grbsifie, ill°=WS by the ?find

Minister, that nothing of the property of the Irish
Church was to be given to any other religious gem-
munil y in Ireland, and width would be the ease In tbe
nroPmed 00133 Mutation of Maynooth and the Regium
Doom, was taken up with fervour and loud demon-
etrraions by the Opposition; and this may be sail,
judging from Uwe indleationa, to have bees the most
trisect and palpable hit of the speech up to this time.
Me such approving manifestations wore evoked when
'rei mid that tbe end all the property of the Ohara
'would go to the landlord, for to that particular
ho ly it was probably an indistreet revelation ;
but the country party seemed to think that the in•
disere,ion was condnnei, when it was said that
before the forty-tee years in which the tithe rent-eharge
was redeemed had expired their land might be confis-
cated ids,. The devab.ishosent of • new voluntary
Protestant church in Inland, to be greeted by •
plundered elms and IL bewildered laity, WAS treated SS
en immediate impossibility if not as an entire delusion.
When seven o'clock was reached, Mn. Disraeli slimed
In an apology for going on "at that bour," and posed*
with a view to stimulate the systems of it. sedans.,
set in for a declamatory burst, about the destroying of a
clam in Ireland, when it wee said that variety of chew
wiss one of her wants • the ejection of a resident pro-
prietary when abeepteelam was tee of her starves, and
adding to her poverty by coodasattug a large amount of
her property. The peroration was only • deelarnatoe7
re-assertion of the principle laid down In the exordium
that religion should ingrainse civil policy; but it was
well propounded, and lily concluded • speech whica, In
its delivery, was fully sustained in all its rhetorical
phases, and as a Parliamentary exereitition amply
deserved the enplanes which followed its sonelusion.
To • nosily empty House Mr. Gregory was content to
dimmerso quietiL but directly, in favour of the MIL
Having been done out of his elaborate amend-
moot to the wooed reading of the bill, Sir George
Jeok.uson was kind enough to give to some
twenty izon-dining members tee speech with which
he intended to open the debate—under favourable
carearnstanoes in one rase, inasmuch as there was
nothing to prevent his getting • complete bearing. Mr.
Edgar Bowring, the new member for Exeter, also made
Ilis debut. The new member for Mid-Surrey. Mr.
Hrodriok, also profiled by the trasquil state of the
House, to deliver himself for the hist time, and spoke
well, being both lama and argumentative. Mr. Dillwyn
has a certain right to speak on this Irish oburob question,
and he now followed. Having been poked at by Mr.
Hendrick, Mr. Shaw, the new member for Hendee, took
advantage of that circumstance to claim • hearing and .
got it. This gentleman was notable for starting front
the Liberal side the objection to subsiding Maynooth
out of the funds of the Irish church; declarieg that,
It Mr. Disraeli would move to put the sum to be
devoted to the purpose on the Consolidated Fend, be
would follow him. To listen to this, Mr. Obidateme
uriocaly inclined. Mr. Aseheton Cross spoke long, and
occasionally much to the delight of the Opposition.
Mr. Chichester Fortes's, then look up the theme ;
and. as may be seppreed, gave a comprehensive
exposition of the Goverament policy In his own Ready
son,' meaner. The adjournment of the debate
was moved by Mr. Ball, ex-Attorney-General for
Ireland.

Fnincr.—Tbe adjourned debate on the Irish Church
Wl' resumed by Mr. Ball, the fifth and lest
Attorney-Get:and of the late Conservative Govern.
meat. Hie speech was elahmately prepared, and was
wide and comprehensive in its stops, and he was eery
wall cheered by the Opposition. The sonata of the
present Attorney-General for Ireland sounded nosily
pare Beton ashen be followed 11r. Ball. Next appeered
the mildest of Irishmen, in the person of Sir Frederick
Heygate. Oise thing which he _mid was noticeable,
namely, that the landlords of Ireland would not touch
the tithe rent-oharge which was offered to them except
,to give it se au andowineet for the Church. Keeping
up the sneeession of Irish members, Sir John Gray
, followed. The mailes speesh of Viscowit Crichton,
wee followed by Mr. Miall supporting the bill. A
wench from Si, Staford Northoote was • aufficiaitUy
adeqnote reason for the adveat of Mr. Bright, who was
greeted by • perfect storm of applanse. He bade; as
usual, very quite ly, and in meaeared tones, and ex-
pressed his approval of the *purse of dividing on the
second reading of the bill, beelines it we. desirable
that the prineiple of disestablishanint of the
Irish Chun* should be formally waled. To the
fait and reality of the question whether the
Irish Cherish should be disestablished he coiled
one witneas, • man who was not give* to "heedless
rhstorie—Lord fitanley—who, at • political banquet of
his own friends, declared that Ireland wee the question
of the hour, and slam) Belshazzar's Feast there had been
no snore solemn or startling announcement at • joyous
banquet. This, whether it was intended or not, pre-
dated hearty laughter, which was mewed when Kr.
Bright contrasted the Moderation of the Irish policy of
the late Government, by Lord Mayo, and that of Mr.
Gladahme in introducing tbe URI, in speeches each of
exactly three hours and twenty minutia' length; the
&Hareem being that the one disclosed no policy at 111,
while tha other developed so complete • police that it
had attracted the sympathy of the people of the three
kingdoms. To the vehement cheering which followed
Ibis stetemeet there tame strong cries of dissent front
the Opposition, and there was • abort but sharp
encounter of lungs. Mr. Bright then made a foray into
the enemy's camp, and dashed at Mr. Disraeli, gibing at
him for understanding the true policy am regards the
Irish thumb much better twenty years ago than he
does sow; c,n allusion which was caught up prompll
by the ninisterialists, and laeghed and sheered at
lustily., In truth, all along so happily were quiet banter
and tor isivenese in putting points mingled, that the
House was kept in a continued cod varied dotter.
Pretrutly he got into • rushing flow of argumentative
dev'amation ; for, paradoxical as the phrase may seem,
It best extremes it. mole, manner, and language of this
part of the speech. Apin, he would lighten his rich
emphasis by jag a flash of hamear, sad so he west am
running up and down the whole male of his rhetorical
powers. Perhaps the Ministerislist members heard Mr.
Bright as a disadvantage, inasmuch am be now 'toad at
the table, with his back to their benebee ; and there-
fore the play of his features and the panther glazes of
his eye were lost to them. though the Opposition
got the whole beeedt of both, often, no doubt, with
more distinctness than they desired. This would
&penally apply to Mr. Disraeli, into whose fsee Mr.
Bright bad Dever had before such an opportunity of
looking directly, and against whom, every now and thee,
Ratti:d "N
°tidal:co-177Z tubbiledu,p.norNeilr.watmf2diyr
allowed to escape something of the same kind. It was
almost with vsbemenee that be contended forth. pressr-
vation of the onion between England and Indeed, but
stipulating for It. being • real and not a parchment
110i0O. Nor was he lees emphatic in an amerticie that
the effect of this bill woeld be healing and soothing,
not only to Irishmen in Ireland, but to Irishmen else-
where, 1111 in America. Declining to go into the details
of the bill, he maintained that it wee whole and oomplete,
and had met and satisfied the opinion of the public.
Diverging almost suddenly (as a whole the epeeeh
was perhaps • little divergent, because it was so
Tarim's) to the consideration of the 'voluntary prinsipie
a. applied to the Irish Church, he instanced the summes
which followed the secession from the Church of
Scotland, and which, as a Tree °berth, had now become
thriving and even a wealthy institution ;and he spoke
anaoaraging words fore LIG attempt on the parted the
Protestant Irish Church, by which means tits light of
lb. Reformation, which now merely glimmered, might
become really bright and shining in Ireland.
Right hon. and harped gentleman eoodeinned, as almost
seerilsge and spoliation, any attempt on the part of I
Parliament to deal with the endowment of the Stela
Cherch in Ireland. If I were particular on the point
as to the sacred nature of these endowments, I should
even then be satisfied with the proposition infthe bill— i
(hear hear)—for after all, I hope it is not far from i
Chratianity to aliarity—(hear, beer)—end we know that
the Divine Author of our faith bee left mum& more of
the dotage of a eompasionate and loving heart than
has of dogma—(bear, beer). lam not able to give the
colemns, or Use carom, or the eliaptere, or the pages • '
but that which has streak me meet when reading, the
nerretives of the Gospel has been how moot of kinduimes
and how much of oompairdou there was, and how
mseh of dealing kindly with all that was sickly and all
that was suffering—(bear, bear). Do you think, then,
that it will be a misappropriation of the surplus fends
to apply them to soots kind of object sash es that
which is described in the bill? Do you not rather ,
think, from the charitable dealing of the bill, that it I
may be a sweeter incense may Mina then whim these
vast fried, are applied to maintain three times the
number of clergymen that tan beat the slightest use—
(cheers)—to the Church with which they are connected.
We can do little, it is trim—we cannot re-11/num the
extinguished lamp—we cannot make the deaf to hear,
we cannot make the dumb to speak—ill is not given to

"From the thick Alm to purrs the visual ray,
And on the sightlentereball pour the day "
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Bot, at least, we tan Imes the wow of affliction, and
make life mom toninible to met numbers who sailer -
(how, hoar). When I look at this great esessere-ead
I an assure the Bones that I ham looted at it gawk
wore that las majority of hoc. members, becalms I
have seen it grow from line to line, sod from show to
slaws, and have watched its growth and its °attention
with great and increasing interest- I lay when I look
at tbis meassre, I look at it as Weeding to a more tree
and solid union between Ireland and Great Britain-
(Wears). I we it giving tranquility to ear people,
greater strength to the realm, and adding a new lustre
and • new dignity to the Crown - (sheers). I.
therefore, claim for this hill the mappers of all
010%1410i/e1 and good people withio the bounds of the
British Empire; and I bilievir-for I swami doubt-
that in its early and greet results it will have We
blessing of the Supron», fool believe it to be founded
on those high prinolplw of jest», sad many which
are the gloriosa' attributes of His eternal reigu-(lood
applaume). The adjournment of the debate was moved
by Sir B,oundell Palmer-a teapot ',Shoat signilleanee.

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