The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
Dorchester, Dorset, England, 1860-07-03 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS-MONDAY.

The Tithe Commutation Bitt waa read • third time
and p Med.
The Spirits Bill paned through committee.
The Itefrealiment-loopies aiol Wine Licenses (Ireland)
Bid was likewim read a second time, after an attempt
on the part id Irish membern to ilediy the ,tae.
The 111611.1 Bonding Bill was read a third time and
The (-Mon of Benefices Bill WWI read • second time.
The uoljonrneft debate on going into committee upon
the Municipal Corporations (Ireland) Act Amendment
Bill was 11,11111.1, whyn
Colonel DICKSON moved to defer the committee for
six months. . .

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This 'notion, after a abort diacussion, was negativerl
upon A ditision by 61 to 14, an'l the Howie went into
committee i.tt the Bill. . . . .

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The remaining hieliness having been disposed of, the
Heuse adjourned at five minutes past 2 o'clock.

Tummy.

The 'liaise, nt the iii )) „i:;ilting, resutned in com-
mittee the discussion of the clainses of the Tenure and
Improvement of Land (Ireland) Bill.
In the e
Mr. CoNiihhe moved two resolutions,--that the
House, basing regard to certain alivointnienta made by
the Lord-Lieutenant, io of opinion that liines4 hag not
been primarily considered in these appointments; and
that the incautious and inconaiderate Ilse of the preroga-
tive of the Crown is prejuibesl to the public serviee.
He referred to several examples of what he iletiounciid
AA the misuse of the prero,..tive of the Crown, the
effects of which, he said, pervaded the whole body
politic of Ireland, the system Irving corrupt to the
bottom. If these charges were true, he idea-reed, or if
they could not be clearly explained, the nobleman now
at the head of the thureraiment f Ireland was nut
entitled to the confidence of Ito people.
Sir. tIItEI.oUT said that silos: he MO heroine ac-
quainted with the facts, he had not been satisfied that
the ( ;,ccriunvnt writ not open to Censure. He thought
the accusation implied in the resolutions was contrary
to the whole tenour of dm goternioent of Carlisle,
who was perfectly incapable iif doing anything wittingly
that was not honest and straightforward.
Mr. CARDWELL tonally defended I,rd Carlisle against
the other charges, and paid a warm tribute to the
qualities of hi, heart and infirl,
Colonel FRENCH justified the course taken by Mr.
17 Ily, who, be had only done his duty, and cen-
sured the appointment of Mr. Lyle.
The disrin.sion was eotitimird by Mr. McMAIDEV,
Mr. W. Menus Gone, Str tiiitr.Y, Mr. M'CAss,
and Captain A UMW.% LE.
Mr. II MNII A observed that while the charges
brought by Mr Conolly were of a grave and sweeping
elorneier, the evidence adduced in on port of them %VAS
insignificant. Admitting that he had proved all his
facts, the proof felt abort of justifying an appeal to the
judriiient of Parliament. lie knew that fitness for the
public service was the first object COLDodered by Lord
Cailn.le in liis appointments, and if there was
any fault in them. the Chief Secretary, who had
a voice in the appointinenta, was likewise to
Wh-ii It. hell that office, he hail heen consulted by
laird Carliale 'limn the vacancy eccurring in the office of
Lord.Lieuteuant for the county of Roscommon.
After some further debate, the motion was neg.'.
tired.

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Mr. iiENNENST moved an address to Her Majesty to
dir..et that ',tens may be taken to relieve the great
diatreas now prevailing in Erris and other parts of
Ireland.

The motion was seconded by the ff'Dommiitit.
Mr. CARDWELL admitted the distress in Erris, and
stated the measures taken to relieve it. He would
be happy, lie said, to produce the co:respondence on the
object, which would show that there haul been no
lokewormness on the part of the administrators of the
Poor Law. . . .

Ca•
Afte dehate of some length, which turned upon the
eapohility of the Pour Law in Ireland, in its ordinary
*du .. i istration, to deal with thus and similar case* of
local destitution, and upon the expediency of resorting
to extraordinary Means, the House divided, when the
not wag negatived by 84 to 49.
Mr. S. 111.1tIMAIT olitanied leave to bring in a Bill for
extinguishing certain rights of way through Colewort
Barrack'', in Portsmouth.
In ~,,, ring for leave to bring in a Bill to amend the
laws relating to the Militia, Mr. iIEitiuEKT adverteil to
the mute which hail lint...ilea the completion of the
force, the number of which woe, he ulwerved, as nothing
compared w itli that of the what* of a soldier age.
A g three causes he included the constant changes
of eiiiho liment and disembodiment, awl the cajolery of
the reer.nt Mg sergeants for the regular army. It should
be oiatinctly understood, lie oia.erveol, tha the Militia
was to he a rewrve force, and a diaeniboaied force,
execpt in ca-eg of great emergency. Ile proceeded to
explain the eltaages which had been mode within the
brat few ~,,,,, tho, with a view of introaucing a greater
amount of efficiency and greater attractions to the force,
Anil the alterations proianied to be mode by the Bill.
Colonel Panes approved the proianied changes and
the rein', ring the service more attractive to men of
re*pectaide char-Miter.
Lonl ENFIELD tendered his thanks for the amendments
andempisted by Mr. Herbert, which would, he said, be
received with great satisfaction.
After some observations from Colonel Colonel
Diet:soy, General UPTON. and other member*, leave
waa givra to introduce the Bill.
Mr. diet obtained leave to bring in a Bill to amend
the Local Gover ~,,, eut Act.
Sir G. Ltwis, is inovii'e• for leave to introduce a Bill
to make butter pros-in for preventing corrupt pra,
lice, at election* of members of Parlioment, stated that
it hiel been prepamil at the auggestilin of the *elect coup
mittee, who.c reco 11111 l m1,46,4111' embodied with the pro-
visions of the Corrupt Practices' Prevention Act.

Leuve was given.
The House then went into committee upon the Loco-
motive Bill, hut, before the clauses were gone through,
the Chairman wioi ordered to report progre,s.
The tiale of Gas Act Amendment (No 2) Bill was read
a Fecund time, And referred to a select committee.
Other Bills were advanced a stage, and time Hoes.
adjourned at Al minutes past I o'clock.

WEDNESDAY

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The House was occupied in Committee with the details
or the Labourers Cottages (Sc Aland) Bill, and the
Machine and Dyeing Works Bill.
Other Bulls were ad%anced • stage, leave was given to
introduce mrtain Bills, and the House adjourned at sax
o'clock.

THURSDAY
On the order for the second reading of the European
Force. (Ind:a) Bill,
Mr. A. Mints argued against the abolition of a local
European army in India upon financial, aanitary, and
political ground.; and with reference to the mutiny
among the local force, upon which those who advocated
the change based their arguments, he appealed to the
testimmy borne by dirtinguished offh ers to the gallan-
try and 111504441 d of that force, and to the services it had
rendered in the Sepoy rebelion. He moved to defer
the second readiog of the Bill for three nionths.
Thal &Mt minimal was seconded by Sr E. CULIBROOILF,
who contended that the Government had not laid suf-
ficient grounds for this important change, which would
destroy the load character of the European force in

India and deprive the Indian Government of • tarp
portion of the power which it poaaessed over the ar
?ointment of local commanders.
Mr. T G. BAKING justified the manner in which this
question had been brought under toe consideration of
Parliament, and then proceeded to discuss in detail the
objections to the abolition of a local European force in I
iu.isting that there would not be the slightest '
difference in training mid education for the Indian aer-
vice between the officer, ot the local force and those of ,
the Line, lie called upon the House to reject the I
amendment.
Mr. ll.tiii.i complained that the House should be '
called upon to decide this question when it was admitted
by the Government that they loul not decided upon
the details of the plan of amalgamation they prop ,sed
to carry out. In considering this question u regarded
the interests of our Indian Empire, he exprrased ids
founded upon reasons which be explained, that the
, expense attending the proposed change had been very
much unileratated by Sir C. Wood ; and he suggested
that, if the Bill paased, the War-ollice would deal with
I a large amount of Indian revenue, which would be
exempt front the check of a Parliamentary revision, and
Ids opi was that tint tVar-office was one of the worst
inana-ed departnants in the public aervice. lie a Ivi.e4l
the House to reject this Bill. in order that it might have
before it a Bill containing • distinct plan of amalgama-
tion.
Sir 11. VERNEY, in arguing for the maintenance of
a local army, dwelt 111,011 the contrast between the Coo-
duct 44 the Queen's "dicers and Goo, of the hood army
t"wartis the native+ ef the latter t
with most consideration ; and inucli depended, he
remarked, upon this voililuct.
Sir J. ELPIIISSIoNt: contended that the men had pre-
ferred only just and proper claims, awl that they hail
ner.r gone 1,. yowl insalairdihation. If India was to
•be held by 1,. irepcon troopa. in his 01 • • 80,1100
would Mil di., idol there
111,1051isom. Great improvents might he mink, and the
condition 44 tl.e men ameliorated. aOl t doing away
with the local army altogether, awl incurring the heavy
.iraiiu f lain, em, life which would he the conaequence.
He opposed the Bill.
Mr. KlNNalltll likewise spoke in opposition to the
. . . .

Mr. VaNsirrarti cordially supported the second read-
ing of the Bill.
Sir W. Itt.s.seht. likewise supported the Bill. The
chief iiticcr to a local army- for lie laid no stress
upon the mutinv—was the almost impossibility, in a
climate like India. Id maintaining • high state of dis-
cipline. All feelings of jealomy between the two
Annie, would In removed by their fmion, and lie did
nut see why there should lw noire difficulty in obtaining
offiecoN for the Queen's annv mm In.lia than for the l'inn-
panys European force. if the native army were re-
minced, as he strongly recommended, an army of 50,000
Europems would be sufficimit.
Sir W. Fame:mot condemned the COUrbe proposed
by the Government.
Colonel P. HERBERT supported the Bill. He inked
what would have been the position id the Indian
Government, if in the bite military strike, which lie
called • mutiny, the whole or a large part of the
mutineers hail consisted of local troops. in the Royal
army, if imuhortination broke out in a regiment, it
could he removed from India. _ . .

Mr. IlerruY argued upon sanitary, financial, and
other grounds, in opposition to the Bill.
Mr. II lion N observed, that, no doubt, the question
alto the expediency of maintaining a local European
army was very important, and one on which autholities
were very much divided. Hut there were two peel' '-
nary queitions—whetlier the House was fairly treated in
not having before it all the necessary information, and
whether it was prepared to adopt a course so novel of
carrying out so great a change, involving questions of
pm inciple and details, not by a welbconsidered legislative
Act, but by an abstract resolution, the beginning and
end if all Parliamentary proceedings upon a 11101111111111
that would transfer to the Ibirse Guards a large amount
of putronaze, and revolutionize the Government of
India. In examining tl.e reasons assigned by Sir C.
Wood for A change of policy twin this queation,
connected with the mutiny, he charged him with dir
ingenuousnesa, mid with abusing the confidence of the
House. Ile stated, of his own knowledge, and pledged
himself to prove, that there were documents on the
sulijett produced as complete, which were only extracts,
important passages having been taken out of them.
He complained of details of the Government scheme
which had been kept hack, but which were of great
constitutional importance. There was the question of
patronage, of the influence, power, and authority that
would be given to the milk...re .lepartineitt, and there
was the question of expense. These were points which
involved the quest' whether there should he one
supreme head or A 110111,11., Government in India, and the
!loose was simply asked to repeal an Act of Parliament,
without any plan, and against the unanimous protest of
the council of India. _

Mr. S. IlEitstitr, in reply to Mr. Borman, denied
that the Government hail withal] information, and that
the House wis asked to adopt an abstract resolution :
the subject before the House was a Bill. He vindicated
Sir C. Wood and the Horse Guards against the dark
aurmisea of Mr. Horamaii. declaring that there was no
intention whatever of alte-ing the relations between the
Horse Guards and the Governor-General of Imba.
With respect to the question of a local army. he con-
(eased that lie hod hail great ilittletilty in arriving at a
conclusion ; his bias hail been in favour of a local anti, :
but be hail at length become convinced that the mea-
sure of the Government afforded a satisfactory solution
of the question. One of the reasons which had swayed
his opinion, as it bail materially influenced that of Cord
Clyde, was the fact of the mutiny in the local corps. Ile
discussed the arguments awl minions for siot against
the maintenance of a local European force, and upon
the sanitary 'tart of the question and acclimatization he
cited the eviihnee of scientific men, showing tlie de-
struetive riderts of hog esposure to a tropical climate.
lie replied tit the objeetion of Mr. Minimal', founded
upon an apprrhemdrut that the Horse Guard,, was going
to take all the Imlian patronage, and gave explanati 111 l *
ti show that the Horse Guards would sot obtain the
vast amount of patronage lie supposed.
Mr. 'twit $ ~,,,,,,,, the adjou 111111 l iiit of the debate,
whieli was resisted by Lord PALM EIISToN, and negatived,
upon a visit. by 21;2 to Kt.
Mr. ii. SFs M. ol' It moved that the House do adjourn,
and this; motion war, upon a division, negatived by 229
to 51.

A further division took place upon another motion
for to Adjournment of the debate, which was likewise
negatived by 1!10 to 43.
Another 'notion was then made for the adjournment
of the House, when
Lord Palmerston, out of regard fir the Speaker, aho
had to take the ehair at A Moaning sitting. gave up the
contest. n lid a motion for the adjournment .4 the debate
till Friday woo pgree4 tO.
(*et-Wit Bill.. were advanced a stage, and the remain-
ing orlers and business having been disposed of, the
House adjourned at 10 minutia past 2 o'clock.