The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
Dorchester, Dorset, England, 1867-07-16 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

MOND/LT.—A eatietaateri pies* of information vu
obtained by Mr. Hadfield free the Cboneellor of the I
lixeliequir. A *persona'. It seem, bee been sinned I
Warms Engird and tho United States for tbe rodustiou I
of the postage between the two eountsiee from one i
shilling to six penes, and reductions may also be espeotad
elsewhere. is 000moitioo on lb* Mons Bill Mum
et Kr. Ora 'dud's, permitting waters for the City of I
Louden to reside within 95 miles of the nearest I
Weeder,. was Wed to the bill. A proposal of Sir
Harry Verney's, to give the franchise to the Loudon
polioe and aunty ecoarsbabrry, ITOT Itog&Myed
another, by Mr. Varna, for snowing votes to puma
residing hin seven mils' of the confines of any
sity or it was withdrawn. A climes introduced
by Mr. Ossuary, disfranehising persons guilty of
bdMry
isibiest Tontes and °au notorious places, we-
in Lord Heentee Coen protmed • ri-
idag d promo awaTieted of
resent they are dianualified
Ilwir trig, or the ter.- ....ase far
,of Ids pram.'101 l opOs-4
"on MilY
as oh* poolduoins. la otZt
Lord llootioo had takes the pains to
the number 01 Alma and tieloshot-leava mon

who maid he admitted to the franalme by the bill Is
the metropolitan dlelsiet alone. They ere it seems, 630,
while of "other bad eharaeters" there are 1068. "Is
theta r asked an boo. member, who seemed to think
there was a great rainy more. The committee generally
were much amused at the revelation, especially when
Lord lionises went on to doted the proportions of bad
characters in the several metropolitan boroughs. The
Government, too, consented to the second reading
though not very willingly. Mr. Candlish tried to bring
the question to an moue by proposing to drew the line
at laresny, and allow depredators of that offence to
remain within the pale of the constitution. Bet Ws
only added to the confusion. At lent, Mr. Gladstone
rose and protested against the clause altogether, on the
ground that it would, in an incidental and altogether
improper manner, b • introducing a new principle into
our criminal law. At present it is held that after people
have been punished for their offenora, they revert to
their former position, and bare every chance afforded
them of being honest for the future. Moreover, the
propmed arranzeumcnt, suggested Mr. Coleridge, would
disfranchise a frost many innocent persons. And a
very great many who had only stolen appl a when they
were young, added Mr. Henley. And a great many
more who even when grown op had taken nothing
but termite, °homed another bon. member. Tim
Solicitor General added his authority to the weight of
opposition. In fact when time eommittee began to think
shoat what they were doing they found out that they
had been in rather too great • hurry; to Lord Rester*
was told that Medan.. would not do ; and was prevailed
epos to withdraw It; not however without a threat of
bringing it forwerd again on the report. &mere' other
"woe omeeese were proposed, with the mem result—
the House would have nothing to do with them. Upon
Mr. Gladstone's proposal for the additional member for
South Lancashire them was a little shoe, of awing and
while contending that division had not its fair share of
the representation, 1,, protested against the redistribo•
tion schenme altogether, arguing that It would be much
better to leave this part of time Bill for settlement next
year. This eat on the Marquis of Martineau, who
made an apnea on the pert of North Lancashire, sod
his lordship also urged the postponement of the
redistribution part of time Bill. But it was of no new
The Chancellor of the Exchequer, who replied
Principally to Mr. Gladstone, showed him that South
Lana...hire was really mom fully represented than souse
orienties—Kiddlerer, for ioetanos—and gave, generally,
such good reasons for objecting to the proposal that it
we. not pressed. A doom Prolheld by Mr. Derby
th Griffi, ost identical with one brought in by Colonel
Hyatt the other night, shared the glee fate—being very
summarily rejected; and Lord Henley, who also wanted
to amend the Bill, met with meal illuecoess. By
another clause, proposed by Colonel Gilpin, It wee
sought to take away one member from each of the four
parliamentary boroughs nest above 10,000 inhabitants
—namely, Tiverton, Tam worth, Werwisk, and Barn-
staple—and give them to Luton, Reigbley, Barnsley,
and St. Helen's. The discussion which look place upon
this proposal—prin.:4l)4ly among the members per-
madly interested—was Um best thing in the evening's
proceedings, as far as fan was soacorawl. Sir Robert
Peel was the chief supporter of the "coml. leasinsee," as
may be supposed. The speakers naturally compared the
importance of the remedies plums as indicative of the
tszt of the claims, and their population was of mune
the principal ooneideration. The state of the straw
manufacture at Luton having being referred to Sir
Robert declared the inhabitants of that pima to consist
priaMpally of Ironies, and said that if the motion in its
beau were carried he should move for the returns at
Megitimmy. Colossi Stuart, who had spoken up for
Luton, came in for • little banter in reference to the
state of things insisted on by Bit Robert Feel; and when
the Colonel tried to assure him that this bonnet-ntaklng
Ome had not Mormsed in population In the way alleged,
flir Robert enswered—"Oh they are all in the straw.*
No eoaddeintions of deeors;m prevented the house from
t=riz. ea :slaying this, as well as the other
the little muds of impropriety was found
a sitarming7p. from the desert of debete. The
dame was by the Chancellor of the Exchequer
Meanie be not like it, and supported by Mr. Glad-
stone because he did not like the gamed ahem*. The
result of a division was that the Mime was negatived by
224 to 195. Progress was then reported, and the 49
other orders disposed of anyhow—so as not to keep the
house later than half pant two o'clock !
TOISDAT.—In committee upon the Reform Bill, Mr.
Looke's clause, providing that notioe of rates in armee
should be given to voters, was agreed to, on being duly
, dimmed. After this needy all the propositions remain-
ing on the paper for amendments in committee were
withdrawn, the rest were disposed of in • wonderfully
short time, and admist load cheers the committee went
to the eonsideratioe of the schedules. Them were got
through with very little amendment. Then otme the
preamble, which was also agreed to, and At tedS Pseud
through comareiffse amidst the general cheering of the
house. There was only one dissentient to the mottos,
In the person of Mr. Beredord Hope, whose solitary
but determined "No" teamed great laughter and more
cheers, in the midst of which it was ordered that the
Bill be reported on Friday. At night the first question
on the paper was an Irish one, The rubjed to which
Mr. MiLenna addressed himself was the great and
disproportionate increase of Irish taxation since 1841
a• compared with the increase of taxation in Great
Britain during the same period, and to certain impedi-
ments to the material prosperity of Ireland which in
his opinion deserve the attention of Parliament. In
reference tithe first division of his subject, he quoted
certain returns showing the proportion of population
to revenue, from which he gathered the remarkable
result that during one period of years when England
was taxed at the rate of is. 9d, per head, Ireland was
taxed 3s. ed. per heed, and daring • succeeding period,
when the taxation of England increased by hi. fid. per
heed, that of Ireland increased 10s. 94. per head. It is
the struggle for existent* caused by this pressure which
the hon. member contended, is the Oltilla of all the
evils connected with the country. The second part of
his subject referred to the important question how to
provide a remedy? The main one that he proposed wee
to enable the Irish railways to terry agricultural pen.
dune at sufficiently low rates to give them a chance of
competing with foreign markets. As it is, the plains of
Hungary, and the valleys of the Danube, the Me, and
the Mel., are, by means of the 1 railway systems
of Europe, more accessible to the English market than
the plains of Mayo and Leitrim. t is a goalie& of
free trade, in fad, and Kr. ll'Reana Imola
The Irish railways, which have to help themselves,
elves,
mutant be expected to carry at the rate of foreign
railway', which are helped by their Governments, and
what be asks ie that admit'sa shall be made to them by
the SUM which will enable them to adapt themselves
to oontinsatal rates, with the assaranos that the
arrangement will more than "pay" in a few years by the
Impetus which it will give to traffic. and trade. Mr.
MlLenna's ideas were exposed to a variety of criticism
Thus Mr. Pollari Urquhart said that be had forgotten
the great increase in the armaments of late years,
which would naturally pram upon the poorer part of
the kingdom; Mr. Monsen contended that Ireland
should be taxed uniformly with Ragland, in which C.ae
she would have uniformity of right' and privileges, and
get rid of the Established Cherish ;and Mr. Whalley, of
course, said quite the reverse as far as the Church was
concerned, telling • pretty little story, too, of • Catholic
priest who warned little children from • Protestant
school by tolling them that on • itertsin day, which be
named be would torn all the ohildren who might go to
It into goals. General Dunne and Lord Dankellin
were very much of Mr. Kitson's'', way of thinking as
regards the poverty of Ireland. Mr. Ward, who looked
to tbe other side of the picture, had the view slutoet
entirely to him oaf; receiving but little support from
those who addressed the house There was • greet
dual of (ores, however, in what he said gout the &min
of workers caused by emigration, and the propeeeles of
taxation naturally falling heavier upon thews who
remained, as well as in the necessary inferenee, that
the Not of Ireland being 'hie to beer up &Oust
_these
drewbaelm shows thatshe must have largely inereesed is
materiel resources. It was impeodble to deny, too, that
she is still exempt from most of the principal imports
which aro borne bp this country, and that • groat deal
of money hes bees lent to her from time to time. Among
the most vehement autonomy, of things as they are, was,
as usual, Kr. firma, who believes that behind I. Lid=
no
better vary fad indeed. To judge by what
last night he agrees with all the matedies proposed, and
wants as .nany more ash, ma get. The end of the
debate was what might have been expected. Mr.
11PRemaa was satisfied with the good done by the &e-
-rmine, and withdrew his motion.
WirrielalDAT.—Tbe main part of the sitting was
compied by • debate upon the Edusatiou of the Poor
HUI, the second reading of wide& wee moved by Mr.
H. A. Beset, who spoke for two boars, sod may be
said to have hunted the eubjed to death. His splash
bristled with statistics, flying • complete exposition of
the state of education in this country, in =caparison
with other countries, and especially in relation to
mime. The &damsel's of our ovirltzri may be
estimated from the fad, that al them is an
average attendance of 2 1100,000 at schools,
there still remains I,ltol00. shildren of the poor for
whose iseteneldoin so pro whenever has been made.
What be proposes is to empower every town or district
to levy • rats for the purpose of maintaining and
exiting school or ortablishing • new one, that establish-
ment to be mossged by • ecommittes to be elected, in
every corporate town, f ram the ratepayers. It is provided
that the school, shall be open to all religion, denomi-
nations ; but no child shall be required to learn any
religious doctrines or attend any yahoo] or place of
religious worship to which parents may object. The
voluntary system, says Mr. Bruce, is detective from
his very nature, and one of the nod °brious results
of its working is that there are the fewest schools in
the districts where them is most need of them. The
motion wa briefiy seconded by Mr. Algernon Egertoe,
and opposed at length by Mr. Henley. The lamer,
while desiring mod saniestly the extension of educe•
lion, complained that the @Wieder adduced were unman.-
factory, not so mush in regard to London as the
country, and generally he eoied that no sufacieot
pounds had been shown to *lffy the proposed
measure. The °blest is to provide school
amommodation, but it Las Mt belle Mem, that
existing means are pet to its full use. What is wanted
is some method of inducing attendance at schools,
end if we offset this we shall have done • great deal.
The effect of the Bill would be to break up the volun-
tary system throughout the country, and without
making any adequate provision in its plies, Kr.
Henley mho dwelt with earosetems upon the mis-
chievous effeets of what be mmeidered the eossisrmag
tendency of the measure; but any irritation of the
kind was disavowed by Mr. Bums, and also by Kr. W.
R. Forster, who followed in dimes of the bill. The
lather &stied, too, that there is any intention to
Interfere with the existing mashinery. All that the
supporters of the proposition ask is that those who wish
be ea in the good work, and who can persuade a
majority of • parish to share that web, sta suswsd
is indulge it. We shall never, he mudended, get
rid of the crying evils which alike Noddy until we
have fastened upon the community the respoesibility
of edosetiog the *Hares of the poor. Mr. Frady v-
eornidimeatary to Mr. Brae., sod sensible of"
seeder of the t system, bet ••
ooeld sot, he • sapport et•
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with the NiOmosadadeso el the Boyd Oemothoket,
hod they eassideeed It espial/at to do so. As It err
they bad pet forth • plan ender the tampion of Mr.
Lewe. As for the Bill, Mr. Gladstone was mai*
plisawad with it, and be reproached Ministers with not
siring it their support. The ooneisnon clause, be urged,
affords the last chance for • permanent system of
denominational edueation, such as is best Wanted to
the requirements of the remote,. Me. Bosley and
Kr. Hubbard said • few words ll'he latter gentleman
was stopped by the band of the cloth pointing to
quarter to sir. 'Tim debate then stood adjourned, as
did the house, slew minutes after.
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•
THIIItaDAY.-Bir R. Palk asked V it wee the intention
of the Government to take steps to record the opinien
of the House of Commons on the murder of the
Emperor Maximilian and his Generals. Lord Stanley,
whilst lamenting the violent and untimely death of the
Emperor, said that he saw very grave objections to the
Room taking any stet* of the nature Proecood be the
hon. baronet. Sir A. Agoew mecio some inquiries
respecting tho Scotch Reform Rill, and the Chancellor
of the Exchequer intimated that it would be taken after
the English Bill bad been read a third time. The House
then went into committee on the Bill for extending
the Trades Union Commission Act. Several hoe.
members espersaed their horror at the crimes whisk bad
been perpetrated in eonnexioe with the Shefield Trades
Union, and declared that the wholesale manner is whieh
the indemnities had beau given would have the effeet
of underrating the grime of murder. After a short
debate the BM pawed through consmlttee. On the
order of the day for going into oommittee on the
Bankruptcy Bill. The Attorney General said be thought
he was not justified in exporting that he could carry
this measure through this simian, and he therefore
moved that the order be discharged, which was done.
The orders on the Judgment Debtors Bill and the
Bankruptcy Acts Repeal Bill were also discharged. The
County Conde Acts Amendment Bill was read a sewed
tint,.

• FIIIIDAT.-00 the order for the Reform Bill, as
mead to be considered," the first amendment was
that of We Henry Berkeley, who moved • clause for
taking voids by bailee The discern= whisk followed
was remarkable forth. introduction of • little novelty
foto the subject. Not that much of the latter polity
was introduced by the proposer, who, faithful of
tendinous, quoted Lord Derby's damoription of wed
voting as " • skulking bole for political cowards," and
lung into Hr. Diaradi's face his early advocacy of the
principal in Narleyborse, as if he imagined that the
Chancellor of the Exthequer thought the ineonaidentry
more seriotui than that of a man preferring fruity port
In his youth, and dry port as be grew older. Hr.
Berkeley had also fished out Hr. Lowe's opinions on the
subject (his enemy had not writen a hook, but published
• collection of his speedos, • bid did just as well, and
described them as the most "dishorreet" be had ever
heard - modifying the epithet, however, to
"disenpnuons," in deference to the prejeclime of
propriety. He had just tom:laded this interesting
coneescion when Mr. Lowe came in, and seated himself
next but one to Kr Berkeley on time frost Opposition
beach. So Ile Berkeley made 'meads for abasing Mr.
Lowe behind his back by sliming him to his Inc., which
he did in some sharp reffections on the richt hon. gentle-
man for not quoting his Aastralian someone/0 in favour
of the ballot, but preferring to cite America, where, in
Kr. Berkeley's opinion, seerecy is not cared thout simply
became it is not required. After describing the ballot
as "the Polar star of Reform, without which all others
are eadess" (like quad medicines with the proprietors'
signature, "than which no other is genuine"), Mr.
Berkeley mule an appeal to the Cloaservative party in
napped of his favourite idea, telling them that, like
the Conservatives of Australia, they would on, of these
days be glad to adopt it as a refuge from the tyranny of
majorities. Re was followed by Mr. Osborne, who eon-
famed himself a lukewarm supporter of Mr. Berkeley in
days gone by, but he avowed himself a determined
advocate now that we are on the eve of great shenges,
of which no man oan see the fell resell, but which will
oartaioly have the effect of increasing the 010016011
expemse, and the ballot alone can keep theme in check.
Indeed Mr. Osborn considers it inevitable in this
country, and propheeies that it will move a Conservative
measure—in support of which latter opinion he gashed
an illustration from Sudbury, showing the horror in which
It is held by oorrupt oonstiteencim One of his aro-
mesa seemed to make some i on the house
that in which he urged the be oe as • cheek aeon the
Intimidation of the poor voter—not by the rich, bet by
men of his own class, who, we have found by recent
experienoe, are more tyrannieal than any other. His
peroration was, of course, not the least dashing Part of
his smear, it was about crowning the edifice of demo-
cracy which the Conservatim party had raised, end
gaining immortal fame, or unearthing of that kind, by
the introduction of secret voting.—Mr. Berkeley wadi
too elate with all this encouragement to give way, as he
has done on some former occasions, so as soon as Mr.
Harsh had reminded him that the ballot in Australia
means men going up to the poll with their colours in
their heads, • division was called, which resulted in the
clause being rejected by 161 to 112.—The Government
accepted Mr. Clay's clause about the expenses of regis-
tration, and also that of Hr. Rummell Gurney providing
that copies of reports of Bribery Commissioners shall be
considered evidence. Several succeeding clauses on the
paper were withdrawn.— Lord Easton Cecil's motion for
disfranchising felons and other had charectere, who have
suffered penal eerviteda was rejected by 168 to 127.
Kr. Tr...by. M.P. fee Lyme Regis, moved to Insert •
dame, to follow Kr. Locke 's dame on rating, requiring
the overseer to make out • list of persons who have not
on the Est day of July paid the poor rate due on the fith
of January, and to allow the perusal thereof by any
person without fee or reward during fourteen days
afterwards—Tl,. Chancellor of the Exthequer thought
the dams would be very useful, and it was agreed to.
—llr. Bosverie took the opportunity of a verbal
amendment being made to clams 3 to express
an °pillion advent to the lodger franchise.—Mr.
Taylor moved to insert words which would give
the franchise to Deepens by reason of different lodginge
In emosesion.—The Chancellor of the Exchequer oh.
jested to the amendment, and it was negatived.--
Among the other amendments was one introduced by
Mr. Powell, on • dense relating to the franchise, pro-
posing to leave out the word "man" and insert 'male
person,* his object being to avoid coming under a pliant
Act of Parliament which makes man" emblem
"woman," and might be used for the extrados of the
franchise to females. But the House determined to let
the Act of Parliament do its worst, and would have
nothing to do within delicate • distinetion.—An amend-
tome proposed by Colossi Herbert, for the insertioci
of " Wenloek" among the boroughs exempted from the
provision relating to the conveyance of voters, wee
carried cm a dividon by 143 to 103. The debate wm
then adjourned, and the &nal eminaltded int=
afterwards. At dm o'clock the debate was
the dandies orders having been suspended for the per-
pose.—Nr. Lowther moved to leave out so mush of
clams 46 as provides that nothing contained in the Ad
shall entitle any mason to vote for the city of Oxford or
town of Cambridge in respect of the oesupsets of okani.
bars in any of the colleges or balls in the Indemnities.—
Carried by 146 to 84. The mitedele relating 60 °Mess
of profit, the acceptance of which by members of the
Government will not necessitate the vacation of soolo,
was agreed to; after which edne verbal amendments
were dieposed of, and the Bill was ordered to be read
a third time on Monday. The arrival of the Bill at this
Important period in to same was bailed with great
cheering. In C 011102116606 of supply, emeral votes in
Um civil service estimates were agreed to.