The Stourbridge Observer, Cradley Heath, Halesowen & District Chronicle.
Stourbridge, West Midlands, England, 1876-09-02 00:00:00

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Cross-examination continued: lie never told IL Achille
Bayart that he was acquainted with all the poisons known.
He was placed with rather Stanfield either by his mother or
elder sister, who wai made his guardian. Ile left Father
Stanfield:on accountof The -Itness wirghed

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told Father Stanfield that he should stay overnight at Mr.
Moran's. Father Stanfield flay, in a passion, and said he bad,
better tell Mr Moran to be careful or be might be sorry for.
It. Witness said, if Father Stanfield wanted a messenger he
had better get one, as he (witness) refused. Afterwards a
most insulting letter came to Mr. Moran 's from Father Stan-
field. Mr. Moran and witness went to ask what it meant.
Father Stanfield said he would bold no conversation with Mr.
Moran, and flew out of the room. Witness followed ard
told him that after his ungentlemanly behaviour he would
never go into his house again, and also that he would
"show him up' and make him repent his deceitfulness
to him. Father Stanfield said "God would ressa^d
him if men did not," ard witness relied, "Be hanged;
God will never regal d such a hypoetite as you."
Witness( did say, 'You have done the worst day's work you
ever did in your life : you will never forget it till you are
laid in your six-feet box." Witness meant that he would ex-
pose father Stanfield in every newspaper in England, it he
could, for his infamous conduct—not only for that, bat for
other things he would state when the time came. Father
Stsnfield had complained of witness being out before that
till nve o'clock in the morning. He did not charge wit-
ness with pulling off door knockers. Witness was out all
night ones, and nearly every night till one and two o'clock.
Witness told him that as he did the same thing himself
(staying out till one o'clock) he could not complain, Witness
had frequently said he had no belief in any God at all, and
that he was an infidel. He had said so to Major Gaps. This
was possibly a lltle display of temper. Witness did not say
the same now. He bad said so to M. Achille Layart, and
they both agreed on the point. At the end of bat year
or the beginning of this witness received £l5O in Russian
bonds, which be sold for £137 105. He had spent that
He had never paid Mr. Moran anything; Mr. Moran would
not allow him. He had kept witness out of friendship,
and to chow Father Stanfield that he had no mercenary
motive in so doing. He bad no idea where his mother was.
He last heard of her through his solicitor, Mr. Bolton,
three months ago. She was then in Italy. Ile did not know
why she did not communicate oftener, except that she might
have better things to attend to. Witnese had a brother and
four sisters. Ills brother was not in oommunication with his
mother, EO far as witness knew. For two years his mother's
address had been carefully kept from him, and for four yams
before that he had not seen flee. Witness's father died so
long ago that he had forgotten all about the circumstance.
He believed he died ahem witness was a weat or two old, fir
else before he was born. Witness's mother then lived at
Bayswater. Witness took 130 or 40 books away from the house
and some rings belonging to his mother. He did not ask her
leave ; she always told him that what was hers was his, and
she had been on very good terms with him since then. Wit-
ness had not sought tic defendant out himself. It was two
montks after he had le ltiather Stanfield's before the defend-
ant first spoke of murdering his father and mother. Ile was
astonished, but from his knowledge of human nature he was
not very much astonished. Witness had never contemplated
murderine his own mother.

Is not the fear of that the reason your mother keeps out of
your way?
Witness denied that it was. Before the defendant had
made the proposal witness had carefully studied his charao-
ter. As a study of human nature he had liztencd to de-
fendant, and had let out to defendant a character of himself.
He knew defendant to be capable of 50 times worse things
than that.
What, than murdering his father and mother? If you can
tell me anything that is 10 times worms than murdering a
father and mother I should like to hear it.
Cross-examination contdnued.—When defendant showed
witness the pomade pot there were only two or three little
dirty spots on the side of the pot. Defendant did not say
what it was for; it might have been intended for witness
himself, for aught he knew. Defendant had told witness to
be very careful not to mistake his sister for the mother,
and stated that the sister was taller than the mother. Mr.
Williams, who had been referred to, was a friend of
witness's. He had now gone away, and witness did not
know where he was. Mr. Williams was a chemist, but not
a shopkeeper. Witness intended to make known the whole
matter to the father and mother after he ha 4 "shown up"
the worthy son. Was never in the swimming baths with
defendant to his knowledge, and certainly never in the
same box. Did not know of defendant having missed a
pocket-book containing the portraits of his father and
mother while at the baths. The portraits were laid on
witness'e dressing-table by defendant At the Mae he made
the proposal defendant said, "Yen muse not imagine that I
do not like my mother, its Ido like her very much. Ido not
care for my father, and as they are in the way I want them to
be got rid of " The opera-glass was not to be given in ex-
change for the meerschaum pipe. He kept the £lO the de-
fendant gave him Since he had spent the £l4O be had had
an allowance of e 3 a week. In the defendant's instruction
in the red-covered book were the words" lelorimet Nattel,"
which defendant said were on a sign over his father's house.
Witness had never been to Roubaix, nor had be talked much
to Achilles Bayed about the town or his father's house.
When the bill was drawn up, witness asked Mr. Harvey for a
calendar to look at the date to insert, as he had already
written the word " Monday " and wanted a back date to fit.
The defendant was non in a state of agitation when he signed
the bill. He seemedrather pleased.
By the Town Clerk: Witness wrote the bill himself. He
had never seen a hill or written one before, and drew it up
In its present form entirely out of his own head. It was not
a very difficult thing to do. (The bill was drawn much in the
customary way.)

By Mr. Armstrong: He had used an air gun years ago
when a pupil at Pershore. The witress suggested the air
gun himself as a mode ot shooting without being heard. He
would swear it was not merely a route to Italy that he had
received from the defendant in the envelope produced. He
opened the letter in the presence of air. Cobham and Mr.
Moran. He was aware that they were at enmity with Father
Staefield. The letter was brought from the Vine. Some
other members of the family were to be disposed of besides
the parents and brother.

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