The Stourbridge Observer, Cradley Heath, Halesowen & District Chronicle.
Stourbridge, West Midlands, England, 1871-06-10 00:00:00

THE TICHBORNE CASE.

The hearing of the case we resumed on Monday
morning, and the eagerness of the public to be present
was stronger than it had been on any previous
occasion. Long before hie lordship took his seat every
available spot in the court was crowded by persons
who had the privilege of the entree, while great
numbera of the tuiprivtleged assembled in the street
and took their chance of catchitz a glimpse of the
claimant and of the other persons connected with the
suit.

The cross-examination of the plaintiff Was continued
by the SulieitorGeneral.

The witneas mid tiles Hades to whom I paid latent ons
at Canterbury, was staying with her aunt, I think, Iler
mother or her aunt. I don't ktow her nem,: but I have no
doubt that I can tell you before Heavy the nor. Mfrs alm's
Chri•Wan name I don't recollect. My acquaintance with her
waa very short. I cool think it. heti s mother alive. She
was living with her suet, not her mother.
The S nlicltor.Gleneral : How old was she —Wltneu:
Between seventeen sod eighteen I should think.
The Balleltor.Getieral : Wee she en only child I—Witness:
I knew no ether.

The Solici"or-General : Now I inform you that her mother
is alive Will you swear you ever spoke to Miss Riles in
your life I—Witness: ?deny times I have sp 'ken In the
preseoce of the vi erly lady she was living with, and that I
thought was her aunt, This I positively swear.
The nolicitor-Geoeral: About what time before the en-
gagement was broken off was It that pau first saw Your
cousin 1—Wit,,...: About November or D.cernber. It was
at flehborne. I cahoot tell you alit rall there years what
passed. To the best of my recolleethol It Was a mere con-
versall,n with regard to my uncle's behaviour to me. I told
her It was quite impossible I could marry her alter what her
lather had said to me.

The g Atelier-G. nera What did the au 4—Witnets I
can't remember wh.t she said At the time. It wu at Itch.
borne I think It war at the lower end of the village. I had
Just come back from huntli.g. and got 41 my horse, led it,
and walked beside biles Doughty. We went down the
village. I was notatayli gat the hon.. at the time, but at
Winchester. these Ar. matters which lAm very reluctant
to mention in the court unless I am forced.

The Sollcitor-General There are two parties to the
matter, and on tile part of the other one you are emancipated,
MI I told you before.—Wituess : We had • long conversation,
that la all I recollect. It la very difficult for me to recollect
the whole of • converaation twenty years ago. I am quite
willing to repeat everything Ido remember. I cannot re-
collect more of the conversation. I never saw her alter that.
I am sure. I am not poaitive. I think It was our last
meeting.

The Solicitor-General: I asked you when you saw her
knit : ' did you • lily floe her once after the engagement was
broken , fit—Witness: I thick so. I wish to correct my
evidence on Friday I understood the S .11eitor.Gemeral to
speak of her cowling to pay her attentions to me, and I
answered, It we, the other way," 'wending to the papers
7he Solicitor-General: What do you wish to soy—old you
or she break it off I—Wltnese my uncle broke It off. Of
entree I wish to say It was "me" who broke It off by her
tattler's command.

The Solicitor-General : Why did you not correct lithe first
thing this morning ?—Witness : I spoke to my counsel yester-
day and he told me to do so, but you began at once and I did
not like to Intemipt you. I don't think I saw Miss Doughty
before I left I believe Lady Doughty and K eta went to
Wardour at that ttme. I did not go to see her because I did
not think my uncle bed behaved In a prowr way to me.
Very probably I wrote to Lady Doughty, but critteloly not to
Mir Edward I olten wrote to Lady Doughty, but I Cannot
say whether I mentioned the matter to her.

Sollcltor-General : Will you undertake to say you
wrote to her between the time of its being broken off and
your leaving Friglabd P—Witness : No ; not at this distance
of time. I don't think I did.

The Lord Chief Justice: Was there an actual " engsge-
ment " between you and Miss D uighty 7—Witness : It was an
understood thing, but it was not known to my uncle, and
when be heard of it he became very angry To tne best of my
recollection I did not write to Lady Doughty about the
"breaking 'if," but I cannot recollect for certain.
The Soficltor-General : Whether you wrote or not would
be known only to you and her. Bogle would not kuow It.
Now did you write I—Witness : Your mention of Bogle Con-
tains an Insolent allusion. Ile knew nothing of It. I told
Knee Durehty 11114 I woold marry her when I came back If
she were single. I made no secret that I was going to etsy
abroad as long as my father lived There Is no doubt
that this was my Intention, hut I never told tither of them
what my intentions were, I believe. You must remember
It Is twenty years ago

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The gollcitor-Oeneral : go were your shirts and pock...
handkerchief —Witue(s: The shirts and pocket-handker-
chtei seem to hurt your feelings (A laugh )

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The 8 Melt.. General Not at all. I don't remember my
own at all. Witt : I cannot speak positively whether I
spoke to Lady Doughty or Sir Edward. I had no engage-
ment with Mhos Hales. Bef..re I went away I had seen Mr.
Goeford on the still -ct of my cousin at Chariton. This was
In October or November. 1 tad at that time executed my
will. I don't know whether I signed it. It was signed the
.ante month. I believe I had consulted Gotford about the
swill I wed to lee Alm frequently 1 drew up something,
but not under his Instructions. I wrote the paper in his pre-
sence and read it over to him, and sell,d It up. I did not
write from his dictation. The words were Mt own I told
Kate D .tighty what I was going to do with Gosford. This
was • thing sepanVe from the will, and to be canted into
effect if I lived.

The Solicitor-General t Did you mile to anybody that your
private wishes and Intentions am yoa Intended to have them
carried out It you 111,r1 you had c,nlided to Mr Vincent
t—Wisissat I don't know The paper contained the
wishes and intentions. There were other " private wishes
and intentions "

The SJlleltor•ldeonal: Did you also write that In parting
with Gosford 3,11 would do certain thing, under elrcum
Stances "that I hare left with you in writing?"
Mr Serjeant Ballanttne submitted that the whole letter
Should be read.

The Soliltor-Cleneral protested against tt ese repeated ob-
jections when he was quite regular. To the witness.) You
hoeing through the interruption had Venty of time to gag
eider the answer, nettling you will answer the question.

The I.lrd Chief Justice : I hope that observation will be
Withdrawn,

The Sollottor.Oeneral : I really cannot wltiviraw It.
Mr. Sorleant B.illantlne Ido not ask my friend to with-
draw It lam belifferent about It.

Witness : Heft two documents With Mr. Goateed sealed up
In one packet

The golicttor.Gereral: Is that what ycu refer to In your
affidaNt 1, `. a sealed document written by me relating to my
cousin Kate Doughty?' Were there two I—Witness There
were.

TIII Sclictter.o Jeers, : T.0..k at the On holt, ant ree
whethe, d,ncsto ate' was •ho firs. Wrl:tn ant t'‘en it
was corrected by yourself Int " document "—WI nera : Ho.
do you know it was corrected by inn? It hes been so cor-
rected.

The Solicitor-General : In the schedule It is called
seined documrus I"—Witnena : Is is quite correzr. Br
document I meant a packet. Both documents rsht.d
to my coueln. I don't trunk I left any other document with
Mr. Goatord.

The Solicitor. General: Ssrely you can recollect whether
you left in writing any other sealed document containing
your private wishes and Intentions ?—Witnees: I don t know
whether you wish to catch me; do you mean a letter? To
the beet of my recoUectien there was not. I don't see ehy
you should try to make in. answer when I cannot.
The Lord Chief Justice : This t no new matter, became
your attention has been fully directed to It, and you have
sworn and corrected an affidavit about it, Was there any
other document 4—Witness ; Beyond that packet certalely
not. I believe there were two aeperate documents. They
were part and parcel of the same; they were my Instructions
to Mr. Gosford. It was written on tett Cheek of paper, but
all my Instructions to Mr. Gosford were In them. They did
not all refer to Kate D ,ughty. There was mention made of
the estate in part of it, to my cousin In part of It. It was
only signed once. I do not know whether I signed both
sheeta or not.

The Solicitor-General: In your affidavit It Is called "A
sealed document written by ma and relating to My cousin.
Catherine Daughly." Is that the document you now mean
when you say that part re'erred to the estate and part to
your cousin I—Witness Yes.
The Solicitor-General: You swore in February, 1818, that
the document was to he acted on In one event which you
knew had not happened, and one which you hsped had not
happened , what was ths event that you knew had not
happened I—Witness: My return before her marriage, I
suppose I donut know what event I referred to. It must
have been that, but I will not swear to It. It was the
event of my death, I suppose which I knew had not happened.

The Lord Chief ...fuetb; You said Just now it was your
not returning before her marriage, and now you say It was
your -eath—which was It t
Witness: It must hove been my death. I swear positively
the event I referred to was ny death, which I knew bad not
happened. I mnbi not remember exactly what it was when
1 swore in Chancery.

The Sollcitor.General What was the event that yen huped
had not happened P—Wltuens: I have very great relocta- ce
to any. If you prom me, the result must he on your own
heed. . . . .

The 8111citor-General What to the est nt you hope has not
happened I.—Witness: The confinement of Mita Doughty.
The S dicitor.Coneral : Do ru mean to swear before the
udge and jury that you had seduced your cousin Kate ?
Witness I most solemnly to my G..d swear that! had.
The dicitor-General: This lady (pointing to Mt% Dad-
cliff. )?—Wltnesa : That lady.
Toe S llcltnr.Got:eral: Let It be distinctly understood that
Mrs Radcliffe I. here by her own wish
Mr. nerjeant Ballantine: You know you have no right to
say that.
Tee Solicitor. General : When and where dtd It happen ?
Witness : It happened at the Mill, not I..tig after I came from
Ireland. About the month 01 July or august, 1t,52.

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The SAICItor-General: G.ve us some nearer date than
that. The latter end of July or the [Henning of
August
The S dleltor-General : This was to July or A hand ,and you
left In March following. Do you mean to swear that you
left her with child I—Witness: She wished to Impress that
upon ma.
At the plaintiff's request an adjournment of a quarter of an
hour was allowed —O,l the re-assembling of the court—
The witness o n'lnued I told Gosford that any letter
that I sent tor my cousin I should send through him;

The Solicitor-donors!: D 4 you leave the sealed document
wllh Mr. Gooford "Just presleuely to your having England
In March, 1853," as you swore In Chancery, or in October or
Nowober, as you have sworn to-nay I—Witness : I think It
was November. I call that "just previously " I made no
Inquiry ae to the event I hoped had not hay pened. I no
doubt spoke of It to Gwford at different time'
The Solicitor-General liSt you Inquire whether your
young cousins whom you had seduced was about to have a
Child?

Witness: I don't thirk I left wlgbnut inquiring. I don't
think I made any direct ivguiry. 1111 d not believe that she
was going to have • child.
The S Meitor-General Is that Roger Tichborne's hand-
writmg (handing a l•tter)
Witnau: It is my writ!! g When shown :mother he said
he would not swear to it alders he was allowed to read it
After reading some tyltlon he said he would not swear to It.
sad as to another he said he did not believe It to be his
haLdwriling, and as to a fourth he said It had a great re-
semblance to his handwriting. Alter being pressed he said
it was his writing; and he gave a similar &newts: as to
another. •

The Solicitor.Grneral And the last yu.t have not Morn
you did not nelikVe to be your writing?
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Witness . I think It should be remembered that I said it
resembled mine.

The Lord thief Justice You said you etd not believe It
to be yours. .

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The Solleitor.General Lok at that signature, and the
signature only ; Is teat Roger's writing?
Witness That's mine. This elan is mine, providing it Is
not a tae-simile. Fur the last four years, my lord, I have had
detectives following me wherever I have gone; and therefore
I wish to he mations.

(the ol these letter. WU read by the Solicitor-General. it
was very long, and consisted of three chapters, and it was of
a most affectionate and religion, character, and the writer
attested to his havleg been obliged to loses at once in conse-
quence of what bid taken place between his uncle and him.
self in January, 1552. Auo.her was—
Tichhorne Park.
" My Dearest Hat—l give you my word of honour that I
never will from this day drink a ,ingle drop of spirits of any
kind whatever. —I remain your affectionate cousin,
"k. C.
" February 5, 1,3:,2, three o'clock lathe afternoon."
And a third one wan these terms:—
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" June 22nd, 1822.

I mate you this day a promise that II I marry my cousin,
cath,eine ush,y, this year, heh,re three years or over, at
latest, to build • church or chapel at Ychborne to the Holy
`r train, in thanksgivb g f.r the protection she has shown
over us In praying Clod that our Wishes may be fulfilled —L
C. TICIIDOE171."