The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
Dorchester, Dorset, England, 1860-06-26 00:00:00

Emperial Partiamtnt.

HOUSE OF LORDS.-MONDAY.

The Duke of Newt.mann, in reply to Lord Lytlel-
ton, explained what steps the Government proposed to
take, and what steps had already been taken, to carry
out the suggestions of the Commission on l'atheilnd
Churches.
The Church Temporalities (Ireland) Acts Amend-
ment Bill, after a short discusaion, passtd through
committee.
Lord Buountwi asked Her Majesty's Government
whether there was any truth in a report which hail been
current for the last two days, that France either had
despatched, or was about to do iii, a large military force
to Naples, exclusive of tho naval force of seven vessels
of war which she now had in the Neapolitan waters.
Lord GRANVILLE said there was no foundation what-
ever for the report that French troops had been sent to
Naples, RR such a course would be inconsistent with the
declaration of the Lulls ror of the French that his
policy in regard to Naples war one 4,1 non-interference.
Their Lordships adjourned at a few minutes after 8
o'clock.

TUESDAY. .
Lord LTVE.DES4 moved the second reading of the jiousp, OF COMMONS.— TUESDAY.
Church-rates Abolition Bill • and after repudiating the The Mem at a looming sitting, resumed in committe
not. that in wishing to abolish church-rates be wu the consideration of the clauses of the Tenure and ho'
actuated by any hostility to the Church, he proceeded prevenient of band (Ireland) Bill.
to discues the legal aspect of the question. The preunt . i
1 u toe evening,
position of the affairs, in Isis opinion, was much worse Mr. Lixissxe moved a resolution, "'hint it is the
for the Church than for the Dissenters, because I ,
nut). of Her Majesty's Govert 1111 l dit to adopt, at the
wherever the rate was contested it strengthened the
earliest jossible leii,nl, the iiecessaty unaliures to nary
ranks of the Di:reenters. into effect the ice,,•iolations of the Commissiumrs
The Duke of MAHLisisitriessti could not concur with appointed in IKiii to inquire into the forniation of
the 'le" of lAnt l'Yveden• end ant not think thn"he harlours of refuge on the coAsts of Great Britain and
failure of previous comp -sea was any argument fur Ireland."
(lie total abolition of church-rates and the int r.luetion
The Indio. w IA second.' by Mr. FARItER.
of the voluntatv principle, nor conld he under-tend why
31r. VA X'T LK lolls ii thi• I:overnnielit Were not pre-
to conciliate a teiv the many alloalil be off. ruled. Ti,,-
pared to give a ho-ty st,Allt 1.1 It 11111111Oal Unit %%Odd in'.
numerous petitions which hod been sent up to Parini-
vie,' all expenditure, according to tle. I 'oniloissiont rs,
ment against church-rates were merely the result of an O, g gg:1.1.,Q71,g gyo, g
g i'-/111, out which many tl 1111 l gilt would ho.
active organization of the opponents of the present state
that s 11111 l null he urged reasosie why, in his °pillion,
of things. Ile moved that the Bill be road a secuud , ..
lie ...nos, should lie cautious in adopting the motioll.
time that clay six months. Ile would prefer the expenditure of it nosierate snot of
Lord WessISADALE briefly considered the question motley oil the improvestent of existing harbours. He
frous its lekal point of view. ',wed the Keeton, question.
Lord De Gary and 'tiros thought the Duke of This lion was semaded by Mr. Didisne, who all
Marlborough wrong ill imagining the agitation si Ida .. , , .1 is 4 tti
lc that the loljelii, ilk toe remlittion was a very
existed un thia question hail arisen from the efforts; Of
proper one if the natii,il.l resources could 1111001 the ex•
the Anti-State Church Society, as the agitation Win, at
penditure.
least :10 years' old. The existence of a grievance had The resolution was iuliornel by Captain Txhisor,
been admitted by statesmen of all parties, and various Sir if. Vetter., Mr. Ilts:i ',IT, Mr. H. D. SEI II IA it,
cowl, l ',les had been proposed, hut rejected. if, how- Mr. 11, TAt Lon, awl IF. Es:ssuct.t..
ever, the Duke of Marlborough wished to make silty
II r. A. Sul 11l cant i• cosi tli.• ll•mse against the delu•
o cnipr ttttt be, why ilid o
he not consent to the secow
lflail' ; ~
WAIF , thellolll Og pros,oseil worlo could prey VIA noire than
nig of tile Hill, and nu modify it in eollittlittr, rtn to . i,,i,ortj,,i, of wrecks, utile,.,, the roast uas
accomplish that olijict ? He should support the motion 'studded with harbours of refuge. Ile supported the
fur the second reading of the WI. I previous questlos.
The Archbishop of Cxxt Lunt tsr did not believe the Sr J. Pceixorise complained of the silence of the
voluntary statement would he r. benefit to the t Ural, G..ve ttttt wilt. NO One, he Said, could deny the extreme
as stated by the Church of Eogland sopporters of this interest of this questi , or that it WSS the duty of the
Bill. It was a strange coineidenze that the Liberation
•, .mvernment to form a distinct opinion upon it ; null
Society, whose objecta were far 1111 l re violent than those when such a inotioti was mule tiny were hound to state
of the supporters of the prescut Bill, should have used
so,, ,
ca VICWII at iillee, instead of waiting to see which way
exactly the same sr.:ems:lit. 'rite "1"1"11 'Yet,'til the eat jumped.
ought properly to be called the begging system. It wai Mr. 11. 11.iiinase observed that Sir S. Pakington 1115,1a
systens which
wouldmuch degrade the character i fail, d ~ non,. ,
co all error ill taunting the Government with
the clergy, as it would put them in a less independeut
indifferimee in regard to this question. They hail given
jusition. For these Tellaolll. although lie admitted there attention to the subject, in order to devise lb measure, if
were clone ground* for comphiint. he allinllil oppose toe
Mit to carry out all the reoesimendations of the I %on-
second reading of the Bill. • .. B.ii ,
Inissioner, tit Make II C. 1111 l Ilililleeinell, le; slinA li i re•
Lord 6 IslA was opposed to compromise on the ',sired a Bill. which was ready to be laid upon the table,
m atter, as he though hy t so doing they would
he ad- ; , s
oil. tin, illiiiroVelllent of exi•ting harbours and mustruct•
milting the jlli ll eh& of the abolition of chureli•rates, in.., o. w
„0r... oo.i h., hop. d 00. moo.. w
ooi I do mit...
The law, in his Opillioll, no it lloW ato CI, Wait OA. the cre.ht of believing that they Were ill earlll•Nti till this
right, mid proper. Formerly this was not to., but the 0„..„. .
decision of the highest legal antliority, that the ' Sir F. SMIVII, Mr. LIDDELL, Sir J. JOHNSTI IN K, Mr.
majority of a parish may tax themselves for the repairs 1' tr id., and Sir 11. Pero ....fie in favour ef Go, object
of the church, Mid unifies the law perfectly just. The ,to . ,
, .1 e resolution.
lAw as it litoo4 at present answered AK purpose ill the Mr. • ,;:.
NTINeg condemned severely the expenditure
great majority of parishes, and he therefore wont' liot,
1110111 the works at liver toad Alden. y. upon which he
especially aft, r the revelations of the designs of the
..„„1. mot., m 00.... hod In,. ..
w.....d thou wood ha,....,
Dissenters, made befere the committee, be a party to a:
sum 00l to coustriiet se•eral harbours of refuge
the alteration of that law. . ' After souse 11-11liak, 10. Mr. 111....5e and Sir J. ELDIIIN-
After a few words from Lord All:LIE in support of I
hroNt: in support of the'. r+,ollition,
the Bill, I Lord 1' si.stegss IsT ,aid the I :ovenlllielit Were con.
The Duke of RUTLAND supported the amendment. as villeill id the east la:port:dice of the matter under eon'
he did not thiuk the Bill would produce peace, but I soleratioe, and of the als,olute nerensity of taking s •
would encourage inertased opposition to the Church,
ineasun s for providing places of refuge on the coast,
and would deprive the poor inan of a right handed
arid if tio-y „iq,,ct,..1 to tto• motion it Wait heCallae it
110W11 to him trout time ii 11111 l soodissl. pl.lgell tlic lions*. and the I:overtime:it to adopt blind-
rile 'hake of B"tleiteET "id he eimnt'l ''te in fev"er l fohl the reconinienilationa of the runnalh,sioners,
of this liel:01111 reading. as the agitation and ill-.will I although there sere great diversities of "OM 111 l as to. the
crcat.d
created loy thin matter were lilt worth the l'eurf 1 loealities of the did, rent harbour+. Mr. Gibson slated
amount of money involved. , that the I:overlineent hall • Inca-nre prepared for the
The Duke of NewC.iscrid.: hail intended to vote as lir
rellimencesisent of operations, alli/ Ile hoped the lionise
did two years ago, but his former convictionu hail been would gild commit itself to SO TWVellnig II resolution
ninth shaken by what hail taken place iu the other mt. imao.tt ......k a ..t.tt tlay. with room.. to
House awl in their lordships' House during the present wEich
Atha' . The ~,..mittee h.,' at length taken the lighest ! ~
ibis I'll 0 sesid.ott of the Eeetie.jeett cilled attention
ground, and C0144'101011 that the cline...for:des ought to be to .i„.. ll' ti. a• it Aannl upon the paper, upon which
maintained without any material alteration ; 01111 he ! 1 o.w reply had, lw sohl, put all incorrect gloss.
wao sorry to observe from the speech of the Archbishp o ,
il
, , ..
i l'e liiiilliie Dieu divided Upoll the pin %it'll', lined'
.4 Canterbury that lie seem.' to have abandoned bin for.
namely, " that this quest. he now put," which was
user op, ll i 11l is, and to have become a convert to the per-
Carr34l ill the affirmative by ISA to 134.
manedit maintenance of churclorates. The pill 'ita not The Idigival resoluti 111 l was then put and agreed to.
Milli Sr to I ' seat present to he ill • satisraciory con• Mr. DUST 'ed for a select is 1111 l inittee to inquire
dition. Still, if church-rates were to Le niaintaineil as : ...to th.,
present condition of the .14.1 tic service,anil
at present, lie law no other reniedy but to pass the ~
M
I cim betean% Of inerrasing its efficieney, sugg 1111111 l
second
reading of the Bill, and to amend it afterwards the points to which lie wished the inquiry tai be

in committee.
Lord Damn., baring criticized. the change of vote
which the Duke of Newcastle had stated hie intention 14
making, denied the imputation that the supporters of
church-rates hail nut purmeut a conciliatory course, Mill
thought that that reproach ought to be on the other side
as the opponents of the church rates had rejected all
conipromisc. If Lord Lyveilen had only seen the over-
w helloing majority of their lordships against this Ballast
year, or had considered the decreasing majorities 4,1 the
MAD& of Col 0000000 ns, he would have hesitated More he
hail asked the House to again express their opinions by
voting on this subject.
After a few words in reply from Lord LyrrogY, their
lordships divided, when the numbers were for the
second reading
Von tent ...
lion.content
Majority
So the Bill was lost.
The other orders of the day were then disposed of,
and
The House adjourned at 10 minutes past 10 o'clock.

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directed.
Lord J. Iturimittl. objected to the motion ; he thought
the matters proposed to be submitted to the inquiry
would not justify (lie trouble given to the members of
a committee.
At the recommendation of Mr. M. MILNEH and Mr.
KlNNtlilli the motion was withdrawn.
Mr. SI.eVK obtained leave to bring in a Hill
for regulating the business of dealeni in marine stores.
Mr. IWeisr imioved for have to bring in a Bill for
gninting to Iler Majesty certain duties on wine lieenee4
and refreshment houses, and for regulating the licen-
sing of refreshment houses and the granting of wine
licenses in Ireland.
Mr. 111:NSVitst moved the adjournment of the
debate ; but the lion was negatived, nod leave wail
given to intrmluee the Bill.
Mr. IsiWit moved for • select committee to iniiiiire
sold report what buildings are necessary for the South
Kensington lilusenin.
Mr..IiiIIN Li ski. ti glit the wording of the motion
ought to be altered. and that the plestioll referred to
(hi committee should he whether the MUSUIII should
hot be
Mr. lii m i.w s moved that the ilelute lie adjourned :
but, after some iliseowdon, this ttttt ti tttt was withdrawii.
and the original motion, modified in its terms, was
agreed to.
ITim tinier% of the day having litwei disposed 1, the
House adjourned at lialf•p.ist 1 o'clock.

I'M
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TIII,ItSDAY.
Lfißfl GRANVILLE, in reply to Lord Noll)ISNOT. said
that the Government had received no information in
regard to the run 44444 r brought by telegraph that Mr.
Eliiut had taken slaps for the occupation of Sicilian
territory by •11 Ii force.
The Pleas on Indictment Bill, on the motion of Lord
11R,11.6111AMS, was read a oec aaaaaa tune.
The adulteration ~f Food and Drink Bill paned
through ttee.
Their Lordships adjourned at 25 minutes past
o'clock.