The Dorset County Express and Agricultural Gazette.
Dorchester, Dorset, England, 1871-08-08 00:00:00

HOUSE OF COMMONS.

THE Al MAX

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kluNwir In reply to questions addra-nused tuition by Colonel
awl 31r. F. Stanley. Mr. Cardwell and Sir II: Storks
that in minseipience of B.° lateness of the harvest
and the consequent inconvinieuee of iamiiiing troops upon
arable land, and impuesibility of obtaining local transport to
isieg the ngular military Inuispurt, the pn ttttt sed campaign in
I7,rkshire hai been abandoned, and that the theatre of the
eitrations or litooirtiveoi to lie performed I.) the regular
iwpswillitia. and volunteers during the pre,ent autumn will
s. columli land about eight miles from
aidogshot, Thereupon Colonel L. Linda declared that the
%Lis esoteric.: of the army eras involved ni thin decl.lon ;he
OWIII3IIIO that the abandoned campaign was nermisary, a d
o,.ht tot* carried out at any expenw, in order to tent the
efficiency of the Control Department, which he asserted was
no, in actual warfare. awl fur the failure f which, hi
aledneo if thiiitcd. he assured the Seeret.a for War that
podenty mould hold him liable.
ifteardwell promised to lay upon the table reports of
Ihi„„ loan. ..thodius upou a hub be had acted in deciding
1., abandon the Berkshire campaign ; and alter Lord Bich,i
hid in.inuated that the rest reason for this dechion had been
th.,,meleieof hiring Pickford's vans to act as a transport
train, tbedimurion won allooro4 to drop.
MO= Lame..

111 c Howe went Into Committee upon the Royal Monaco,
ant Mr. 61.41•T0N1S Moved • resolution, charging the Cow
Uasted F I aith act annuity of 1:15.04.10 for Prince Arthur.
li, floc; to the circumstances under which the Civil List Act
.„ peel. aid its provisions, and the precedents of genera-
tions, he arguel a moral responsibility rested upon the Mouse
to make such amislerate proViAoll as was now asked fur. What
art the Camas of this country If you weak to this motion
arc giving to Prince Arthur an income lOW I believe than
if, ea, rage income of the Mouse of Lords. Even in Schedule
D. partial as are the representations made Ly it, I find that
soy pinta are receiving from 1:10,e04 to k. 50.000 from the
rots, 1.1 trade, and • considerable number are remising over
that amount. Under these circumstance, to ask for the chill
el • sesereign an ineoene of £15,000 is not unreasonable. Par-
bleat id este the Duke of Gloucester £14,000 a year, he being
otily a grandson of a Sovereign. It Is true that, who., the
Doke of Glow-oder was married. another ,C 14,000 ea.. granted
to the Princms Mary, his wire • The Duke of Cambridge who
is unmarried. and only the grandson of • wvere4n, receives
12,0 w a year. lam perinatal that even if unhappily there
may lea few who think otherwise, the meat of the people will
ree loath the fairness et the proposal made by us.
Mr. P. A. Tintok, opposing the motion, said her Mayen ys
Goseniment were determined to render themselves unpopular
la the tontinued cry of" (live, give." The nue of the people
of England felt that the expense uf royalty was far too great
and he was of the lame opinion. The people of the country
e.o.m.:red that the amount of three-quartera of a million
sterling was all Cia•SAVO SUM to pay for the maintenance e f
royalty. It was a meet sinister compliment to any to a young
prime, with every arena of useful and honourable exertion
open to him, "Nothing is expected from 3 uu, and we made
you a burden tipou the State, and a pensioner upon the people."
Fifteen if sand • year for the establishment for a young
man Cl,, nth just about entering upon his majorty ! When it
was proposal to give the Duke of Cambridge £12.000 a year,
a motion am made to reduce the amount to £5,0,0,Mr. Bright
opposal the larger grant, especially on the gr., I that the
tam ...old come when the direct descendanta of her Majesty
•sild have to be provided for Icy the State, and ventured to
nem's the opinion that no minister would venture to propane
...eh a sum an £12,000 • year in that case. 11•4 the right
hon, gentleman said no Tory minister would *cloture to make
li a proposition, he mielit have been nearer the mark ! but
be aid not know the daring extravagance of • Liberal minister.
-4" hear," and a laugh). Ile did not think he put the came too
strongly when he termed the proposition wanton, wasteful,
and sicked extravagance.
Mr. Infos believed the Mouse had • moral responsibility in
the matter, but thought the amount asked for excessive, so
moved to reduce it to £lO,OOO. It had been said that, after
all, it would be but a paltry saving, but the working classes did
not treat it as a pimple question of £15,000 spar. They had
arrived at the conclusion that there was in high place., and on
Urn pan of the Government a great, unnecessary, and waste-
ful expenditure. and they had Impressed on their representa-
tives the necessity of reducing it.
Mr. DIaIIARLI thid—lf I were not about to support the lion.
member in his proposition. I should prefer the antetultuent of
the hon. member for Leicester, for that ii at all events an
tcllociblo and defensible propmal ; but I cannot aympathise
wilts the hon. member for Birmingham, who admits the claim
ant offers • composition -(laughter)._ Since the relinquish'
locust of the Crown Estates by her Majesty in 1•37 their net
rinital has increased £150,000 per annum, while the Civil List
has remained etationary, The country is alrealy a gainer to
that amount. If a right had been reserved to her Malady in
to charge the Crown Estates far all her younger children
according to the scale which Parliament has already recognieed,
there would only be an annual charge on those estates to the
asnount of £09,000 sterling per annum. and the
country would still be • gainer of the A ifference
Istseen that &linnet sum of £OOOOO and £15.1,000 per annum.
Thai is • consideration which should not be absent from the
minde ef gentlemen wit. aregoing to decide this question on
principles of public economy. (Hear, hear.) The lion. member
Binningham (Mr. Di xon) tells Us theta Republican feeling
lion oununewed to arise moo.' the ....flog noses ann that
they are counting the comparative cost of Republican and
Monarchical institutions' I hope thyy will be well informed
in that subject before they come to any ultimate decision.
(Laughter.) So far as I can form au opinion up in it the at
of Republican Government is much MOO considerable than
that of Monarchical ; for although you pay only a few
thousands a year to the principal personage in tho State, yet
Shen you come to take into thsount the amount of the ace,-
ululated laymenta to ntemben of the National Assembly, you
may end the aggregate much greater than the cost of monarchy
in OW country, even if we forget that no tins o taken from her
Majest• the enjoyment of • mai estate which nOw yield., an
ini.inne equal to the civil hat—(cheer.). If her Majesty bad not
1.....;0ne the right of charging her life estate—• right enjoyed
by all her auloects fas•oir •if her younger the
amount would nut ham Men half the accumulated res.:tom she
has relloquished ; and therefore I think every one insist COO3O
to the conclusion that In aceethug to the proposition of the
right hon. gentleman we are not not only generous but just
(thaw).
The Committee divided
For the amendment 51
Against it • • • •
The Committee then divided sot (ho original motion for
'slanting tri3Oot ler a iiiiii
For the motion .. • • .. '27i;
Againat it .. • • • . • • .. IL

iik RALLOTT ILL.

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There am a great deal of discussion 011 clause to. which pro. 1
sided 1,0 the payment of the expense...l elections out of the
hs.al rates Kr. U. Junco moved an atuciadmesit negativing the I
proposal:
Mr. V. ItALCOCIIT mid UM people had looked forward to the
Cadet as a boon, but to cunimet it with liti,,noi tax.sti ~,,
would give the opposition the bent cry they over had. Tim
Gos eminent had fallen out with almost every one—with the
army and the licensed vitoallers, and now would but la blister
on the whole body of rateps)ers by that claws:. They were
1.14 it would not much increase the taxes. But if they went
'cry close to a MAO with the gout a little thing would make
him wince, and the country was now suffering severely from
the gout of tallltlOn.
Mr Music Lorin anfued that if election expense. were to be
sat out of the rates, personal property should contribute am
well as real.
Mr GtarserOws said —The polic) of the clause was the design
•.1 facilitating the ashni.sion of a irking men within those
walla What had boost long w•tited, and woo Willted in the
irment day more than 'es or bcf ire, in prop..rtion to the iii-
crowed activity of thought and of communication between
working men, wax the establishment of links to connect them
with the classes socially above them in regard to the political
isisUtutlons country.
FAWCIETT said VICII would be the cost of election on
account of the enormous incrsmse of ,tiling places, that, un-
less that clause were aloptcsi, friend as be was of the ballot
he must any it might he dearly purchased —(heir, bear),
The committee divided
Fur the amendment
Against it

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The amendment wax, therefore, carned, the it—innuileement
the numbers being reeeivedl with loud Orpo.iti,hoer.
At the instance of Mr. 101151.111, the claum, new ronlered
110(ittiV.1 without • irkion. and the three fel-
mdlom havmd Leen emitted, the Committee rm,—

rel.ited

It.
TL sausr.—The Dsllot Dill was again in committoc,and claioc
2; was passed In a form prohibiting the hiring or toe of rooms
stpublic-houses for any purr*, conticztal With SD eleeD4.ll.
WEDXSZSAY.—Mr. E•,•••At • Bill for the abo:ition of religious
to.t. in Trinity Dolicus. oecuptc‘l the whole sitting, and
will he withdrawn.
Tnimanay.—llr. li,,it.e crelttal some inertimont by .eking
whether there was any foundation for the report that Govern-
ment Intended tu pros ide a rusidence for the Popo in the
hl
Glanetosa replied In the negative,
On the motion for .the beempt reading of Prince Arthur's '
ARDURy lull. COIDDeI Itoanm,n, plied attention to 'the self- '
linposed banishment of the queen from her subjects. Thu
had given her lialeaty very ample emohuncuta to enable her
to maintain the dignity ii her loh. p.wition, and they were
anxious that she should qicol tha in.inev for the purpoaes for
which it was granted.
r. Cddismoss denied that her Maj0.4).0 bad lot her hold
on the hearts of the people. and pro,eutkut to state that n It
would bs be, Koval, druire to meet the wishes of her
$.015 by by undertaking the di.cliar,re of every function of a
peptic character which Kilo might be advi.ed ilvDl might, find
herself able to perflrm."
The bill was then read a second time.
The House afterwards went Into Committee on the Ildlet
Bill, and the remainder of the clauses were then conddered.
The new clausos were then considered.
Famar.—Col. AMON ;:ave notlee of a tuition expre,“-
ing regret ,that the contemplated militar Dl”retnelltv
in Berkshire had boon abandoned, and an opinion that a state
of things elated In the Warotfice which w.ic highly detri-
mental to the efficiency of the servicer. .
Taacsrr withdrew hi. Bill for the abolition if Testa In
the Unirereity of Dublin, stating that he should re-intrualuce
it early next medon.
In renly to Capt. Beaumont,
CARDWai.i. laid he was lint prepared to state that it
would be neermary to bring in a Dill next session for the re-
organisation of the Army.
In reply to Dr
Sir H. 8/011111ta stated thst the number of horses. it had been
estimated, that would be required for the transfort
connected with the proposed DISIIO.IIVICS in Berkshire was

'SAO for 16 days.
In reply to Yr. Whalley,
Mr. Clusseross stated that the !deputation he bad recently
received had not come to him or. the iodiject of a Roman
Catholic University, but had placed in his lauds documents
stating their views on the subject of education geeerslly. Ile
c..tabl not anticipate any circumstances under which it
would he right to dad with the subject of edurati in
Lubd bY Royal prerogative apart from arcort t Pestle-
imnt.
Noce Arthur's Annuity Bill {almal through connuittee.
The House then went into committee on the Ballot Bill.
A division took place on • clause moved by bir Henry Bore.
I.'hibiUng the payment cf canvassers, sad the tisume was
"teCtal by St against 67.
Mr luau nosed & new clauve, providing that no voter
in any proceeding in which hit evidence may be taken,
*eta for whom or in chat Rammer he has voted.
2s. a division, the clause was carried by 132 against &I.
'be remaining new clauses were then disposed id. and the
Wes having lama gone through and agreed to.
Fidurraa stated that it wee proposed to take the report
Priam. ble was thou agreed to, land tbeichairman was
meld* loud cheers to rapoct the Ball am emended to
MIS BM/ft
"MI ""^"ke. tera place on the late Treaty with
eller steak Le Roues edloureed