The Stourbridge Observer, Cradley Heath, Halesowen & District Chronicle.
Stourbridge, West Midlands, England, 1885-02-28 00:00:00

AN IRISH SCENE.

In the HousE OF COMMONS, Mr. Gladstone having
moved that the Notices of Motion be postponed until
alter the Order of the Day for ree.”—'- -
debate on Egypt and the
Mr. J. Redmond objected to the manner in which
the Government monopolised the time of the House de-
voted to private members. He proceeded to make
further observations, which, being regarded as
irrelevant, the hon. member was directed by the
Speaker to discontinue his speeeh, and the order was
promptly obeyed.
Mr. A. O'Connor moved to except from the motion
the notice of Mr. J. Redmond, and as there was every
indication that the discussion was likely to be pro-
tracted by the Irish members, the Speaker intervened,
saying he considered the subject had been adequately
discussed, and that it was the "evident sense of the
House" that the question should now be put.
Excited cries were raised by the Home Rulers, and
Mr. O'Brien, springing to his feet, shouted, "We will
remember this in Ireland."

Day for rem:ming' tla7e Adjourned .
' Soudan, _

Mr. O'Brien was immediately named by the Chair,
and Mr. Gladstone followed with the usual motion to
suspend the hon. member.
This was carried by 244 to 20; and Mr. O'Brien
withdrew.

Next, a division was taken on the motion that the
question be now put, which was carried by 207 to 46.
A further division resulted in the amendment of Mr.
O'Connor being negatived by 235 to 19.
Finally, on a fourth division, the original motion
was approved by 222 to 19.

THE VOTE OF CENSURE.
The adjourned debate on the Vote of Censure was
resumed by Sir John Lubbock, who declared his willing-
ness to support the Government in any line they might
adopt for the defence of Egypt. But he urged them to
make up their minds as to the frontier, and not to go
further than the point at which they intended to
remain.
Mr. Trevelyan vindicated the conduct of the Govern-
ment in deciding to continue the war as soon as they
received the news that Khartoum had fallen. As to
the recommendation that the Government should open
communications with the Mandi, he respected the
Mandi as an enemy who night possibly be an element
in the ultimate pacification of the Soudan; but
attempts at negotiation while we had an army in the
country would be courting the fate that overtook Sir
W. Macnaghten in Afghanistan.
Mr. Gibson taunted the Government with being
unable to point to one solitary request of General
Gordon's that they had complied with, or a single ex-
pedient he had indicated that they did not, oppose.
Mixisters had deliberately gambled with the life of a
hero without justification, excuse, or palliation. They
had broken all their promises to Gordon and the House
of Commons, yet asked again to be trusted! A Govern-
ment that was disparaged could not be trusted. Their
present policy appeared to be to go to Khartoum to
please the Whigs, and to run away from Khartoum to
please the Radicals.
Mr. Goschen said it was absolutely necessary that the
House should understand what the policy of the
Government, as a whole, really was. He .implored
them to take the House into their confidence and let
it know what were the ultimate objects at which they
were aiming. When they had broken the power of the
Mandi at Khartoum did they mean to establish an
orderly Government there? Again, when the Soudan
was settled, if we did not give security to those natives
who had assisted us every scheme would be unsatis-
factory in the highest degree. If the Government
would not pledge themoklves to more than breaking the
power of the Mandi at Khartoum, he could not see his
way to support them, and would feel bound to vote for
Sir Stafford Northcote's motion.
On the motion of Mr. Chaplin, the debate was ad.
ourned.