The Stourbridge Observer, Cradley Heath, Halesowen & District Chronicle.
Stourbridge, West Midlands, England, 1878-03-02 00:00:00

IMPERIAL ??ARLIAMENT.

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rln the HOUSI OF LORDS, February 25, The Duke of Argyll
ha:elnotioe that on a future day he would call attention to
reaties of 1856 and move for papers.
1411 EralS' referred to outrages committed by the ir-
sre..gular Turkish troops when Greece withdrew her troops
saona Thessaly and other Greek provinces, and asked whether
the British Government had entered into any arrangeinent
for the protectien of the Greek population.
aoletiornd.D.erby replied that full details would be found in the
of tbe—au,a to be laid on the table. On receiving a report
statin 000tirrences referred to, instructions were sent out
inn g that the English Government would use all their
"ace to prevent thq occurrence of outrages on the
PODtllation.
rd Manvers asked Lord Beaconsfield to explain the dif-
ference between a Congress and a Conference.
aet°rd Beaconsfield replied to this question by stating that
coa could not explain the difference, because he did not re-
"se auY difference at all between the two bodies.
',ltc
Lord Stratheden and Campbell moved the resolution of
h he had given notice, declaring that" the recent corm-
', ondence on the affairsevery of Turkey justifies Her Majesty's
serious
Government in taking eve precaution to discourage the
encroachments by which the Treaties of 1856 and
altiti. are threatened." He maintained that such a resolution
aaaee Pro Posed had a tendency to avert war, as it would.
twee a beneficial bearing on any separate negotiations be-
-4,1 21, Russia and the Porte, from which an unpopular war
wet, emanate; and coinciding with the Vote of Credit
vote el certainly not be superfluous. The motion was not a
lair_"l of censure or a vote of confidence. After referring to
a,_3, other topics Lord Stratheden concluded by proposing
`.5 retOlution.
tioatclel nunraven expressed his satisfaction that the resolu-
a,via gave the House another opportunity of discussing the
4 Jiarestion relating to Eastern affairs. He remarked on the
aaet.er of the bases of peace proposed by Russia, coupled
w:,." the demand for the surrender of six Turkish men-of.
58c1 commented on the danger of allowing Russia to
sli herself in Armenia and to obtain possession of the
7ritEfliirates Valley. He hoped that an unanimous support
cl he given to the resolution.
eor..rd, Dorchester also expressed his concurrence in the re- 1
roo. He believed that the action of the Government
'4am les Eastern Question had not Leen characterised by the
4elness which formerly disUnguished British statesmen.
Nwciar commenced by Rlassia was a war of aggression, for
feeling:lot believe tha,t it was prompted by any religious
Lora D rby disaal
Wide fie 4 aimed any intention'of ranging over the
did Let -14 had been opened by Lord Stratheden. He
resoi thiaat, like the noble lord, that the passing of the
utiot
St to Would diminish the chance of war, and believing
(m ew ,
8 iannecessary he would meet it with the previous
aliaaa°,ll: The surrender of the Turkish fleet had been
but he hoped that the demand for the Turkish
peta-a'alwar would net be persisted in. As to the second
aza„" 'ate noble earl [Dunraven] raised with reference to a
suit—teerilwit the war indemnity out of Egyptian Bonds, that
aau aa no doubt, have to be carefully considered with
r, tegard to British interests (said Lord Derby). With
t.;,'1.1P1 to the other point, the alleged demand for the ex-
isi7Loa of the Mahomedan population from Bulgaria,
aoldla I heard the rumour of that demand I did all I
ter,;','„ato ascertain whether there was any truth in the
eas. There is no precedent for such an expulsion,
laiayt the expulsion of the Moors from Spain. I
aaaststand that whatever the demand was it has either
aan withdrawn or greatly modified. Ido not know pre-
liZvq,Which, but I shall probably soon be in a position to
otly, Wuat has occurred, and I hope that we may relieve
abe„tal, ads from tlfe apprehension that that one act is
laato be performed which if it occurred would be one of
alo Faleillated to excite the indignation of Europe. I
ktv
„know that I need follow the noble lord in the re-
-11147,17111M he made as to the importance of Armenia to
0115 ,7,llntrY• That is a very difficult question, and it is
ccsa 'von which great difference of opinion exists amongst
a„,Petent persons, and for the present I content myself
to athS observation that I do not think the noble lord gave
good reason for the importance which he ascribes
"aa.„,e Posaession of the Armenian territory. He said,
Iliac are apt to forget how near the Russians are to India."
teetliovvever true that may be, the acquisition of Aia
blight abY the Russians' whatever ether consequences it
Van- A "aye, would not have the effect of bringing the Rua-
fti:-ies nearer to India. (Hear, hear.) I must advert
lora 2arae time to the remaining statement of the noble
'who rut to the remarks which were made by the noble lord
11 et t °ll°wed him. Both of them complained that we had
that te'l, a firm and resolute attitude in this matter, and
°Pinto:gland had, in consequence, been lowered in the
th la. of foreign countries, and that generally we were
olacZfl'i Weak and divided, not from the absence of de-
bae„ blic opinion, but because that opinion had not
aeui`a`lll. 137 expressed. Whatever may be said of the pre-
kaa"`"lation, I do not think that it can be said that
tart Opinion 00 both sides of this question has not had a
taiti 'llll and fair expression. The truth, I believe, is this--
kik! Large number Of persons who thoroughly supported the
aitea, of neutrality in the first instance did so, perhaps, not
tolipther foreseeing or not altogether considering what that
to °f neUtrality involved. We had three courses open
Dea_
,at the beginning. We might, as some few persons pro-
aatill, have so far sided with Russia as to join our action
That "ers and prevented her acting in an isolated manner.
DerserPosition was supported by so small a minority of
Were v. that Ido not think I need further refer to it. There
kat, ae other two alternatives open to us—either to re-
orizz neutral or to do as we aid at the time of the
tioa ear,
11, to announced War and to have annoced our inten-
4
aa. Maintain the Treaties of 1856 and 1871, and to
Posec. that determination by war. Those pro-
ven:l Wore fairly put before the country and the Go-
deatL,llett, and a great majority of the English people
litaitoeeratelY determined that, under the altered =cam-
e s of the time, an adherence to the policy which led to
he U rfro4 ean War was no longer desirable. When we took
e,,,,ination to remain neutral every reflecting person
powe :Bat it involved. We knew that Russia was the more
htter“lll of the two combatants ; we knew that, sooner or
reeisi whatever resistance might be made by Turkey, that
Wonieneo roust be overpowered, and that a state of things
before brought about very different from what had existed
9ear I can quite understand that many people who a
tiIR,A" felt nothing so strongly as the undesir ablenessof
thei'aog in a war are now of a different opinion, because
sf net then fully contemplate the results of a policy
'thargeerallty. But I say with respect that before any
bro, vacillation, hesitation, or want of firmness are
*h4ug", against us, we ought to know upon what fact, upon
aea
We ,Fts or absence of action these charges are founded.
the wltrri.ed our conditions of neutrality at the beginning of
sria ,we have adhered to those conditions so defined,
to sh,W either inside or out of this House has attempted
ciewas' that we have departed from the line we then laid
I think when that is shown it will be time enough to
with weakness, vacillation, or inconsistency; but
late; g,• i 8 not fair to complain of those who have to admin.
eeetra eu ae. affairs of the country because a state of things has
avita WWII is the natural, the necessary, and the in.
Dort '4' result of that policy which the Government, asp-
the nation, deliberately took upon itself twelve
ago. (Hear, hear.)
ea " iloughton observed that the conditions of neutrality
said a`r Dart had been laid down with very great precision,
by 111415 of those conditions would be violated, it was said,
IsaaiekaPproach of the Russians to Constantinople. Seeing
j
bataaad occurred, he wanted to know whether it was
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that that description should be taken literally.
laid eauiect of Lord Stratheden's resolution was to have it
tia; "'own distinctly that the Government, if they discussed
ateaaliestion in a Conference, should enter into the discus-
M the basis of the Treaties of 1856 and 1871.
5b1e,r..,c1.. Cardwell, having explained that Lord Granville was
it on business in the country, stated that in his opinion
Were Plainly the duty of Parliament, while the Government
care „011g55ed in arduous efforts to preserve peace, to take
ae,ltzot to do anything calculated to frustrate their endea-
Tara
reseb,,, ury considered that a division on Lord Stratheden's
that irnn would be a useless waste o 1 time, and maintained
of at .aa should be deemed neccessaff to resist the demands
Darelai'''''a in the Chference, this country ought to be pre-
Th to enforce the resistance.
resei?,„discussion then terminated, and Lord Stratheden's
being got rid of by the "previous question,"
'll
Lordships then adjourned.
a th
ias,„ 0 ROUSE OF COMMONS, in reply to Mr. Beckett
taa,,:',o, Sir C. Adderley said the rock upon which the
aaaa'eB,one Lighthouse has stood for nearly 120 years has be-
liglisbUeuMlerinined by the sea, and the foundation of the
het ea"_ Be is very seriously weakened. Although there was
tio ie7 franaediate danger to be apprehended, the tower could
the„fuger be considered safe. The Trinity-house have,
anetirre, finally determined to build a new lighthouse on
eat,en, rock about 40 yards from the present tower, the
frayer of Which will, like other lighthouse works, be de-
*Nei.: Out of the Mercantile Marine Fund. Until the tenders,
Was ajave been, or are to be, invited have been received, he
/Neil 'Jan; a Position to state the estimated cost or the time
14. ZU, be required for completion.
kly ta", • E. Forster inquired whether the Government had
qthe''eation to communicate as to the precise nature
a_
The lis Of peace and as to the proposed Conference.
"4(1 `aancellor of the Exchequer said the Government
--40 official information as to the terms of peace There
ansata good deal of unofficial information from various
ltaeit`ta on the subject, but it was not quite consistent with
v
alltate;,°aud therefore he thought it better not to make any
riLact ant at present. It seemed to be certain that the
ikles a."llke Nicholas was now at San Stefano, about four
toriewa°lll Constantinople, and that peace was likely to be
Peke "ed there. But what the terms of peace were or when
°lflicitavaaa, likely to be signed the Government was riet
tom. auforrned. With regard to the Conference, which
"as rot Z1:03, had already stated was to meet at Baden Baden,
1
fif "A, Mention that Lord Lyons had been selected as
4to wClalhaarsador. The Government had no information
etk the Conference would meet.
the PaYrer to Mr. Onslow Lord G. Hamilton stated that
tletviCar'a Office had received a telegram confirming the
the unconditional surrender of the Jowakis.
a The FACTORIES AND WORKSHOPS BILL.
vroe,e,,,"ollee again went into Committee on this Bill, and
that ,ed with the discussion of Clause 17, which provides
thiriallleal times should be simultaneous and employment
rneal times forbidden.
roenTawcett said the restrictions in this Bill with regard
Lae were altogether different from those imposed by
f.'4 a -a"af 1867. As he understood it, if a woman engaged
odwsa—'BaoP, where only manual labour was employed,
had half an hour to spare, she would be absolutely
thiiaae', baeu, to at a meal there in case any one in the work-
nai4PtDeried at that time to be carrying on any kind of
"ericaA. He therefore moved an amendment exempting
:
aar. c Ps from the operation of the clause.
kasibi r°Bs said it was intended to leave women as far as
wehunrestricted, and only to impose restrictions upon
Prote2 Mich restrictions were necessary for the purpose
altoe eva"au,g children and young persons employed in the
toThulir,hirient. If there were to be any regulations at
iVesent, aours of meals, there must be a clause like the
,t7or else the inspectors would be unable to make a
eaalusPection.
arneudinent was by leave withdrawn.
Whibf,aaweett moved an amendment, the principal effect of
Wosaaa"ould be to leave liberty of action to women in those
Ployara°Ps and factories where women and men were em-
rl;!oYeal! aniii where no young persons or children were em-
Aatrietia ernployer employed men, there would be no
r
; but if he employed women, there would be re-
faaaa‘a to meals which ought to be taken when most
hThotieleemiloyer would therefore say to himself,
tlat t be
Itthn,,..—"DtoY then, e by employing women." andlhd t
e would
theoul d
All restrictions which a'
PPie
to aaciallv ta—", ea, but not to the labour of men, tended
aeen airniniah the demand for women's labour and
aoin l
your •a°,l,Fn their wsaesi the law were to say to
(• lonee'aLx°ll eannot yo meals where your w. ork
sa°llse aae effect would be to drive them into the public. the streets to take their meals. -He ventured
eY whatav
, er suffering women underwent i.,(:! from overwork
11 —red ten times as much from restrictions. It
L.,4l7;,,,telec:lar:ytht:_ag!eastotnh,e testimony of medical men to the
the health f fashionable women from going
111114'ng five ni and sitting up till two o'clock in the
tw Proaaaja grits a week' but if he were to bring ine
th. 9 ni.ghta that they should not sit up so late more than
hy,
aj,llain,aeellplathe week, he would be laughed
th'eacitaj: restrictions on poor women. As a matter of
w
eve qeeetion,
_pmild take the opinion of the Committee on
Irt B,a), new
wth ref
srtheri thought a stand should be made when-
Pction was proposed.
iate
tuoscisisi_aid that the hon. gentleman s argument was
lb.:, that
,siut interfere with the labour of men, but only
oh?' tba7, we'lVen. The hon. gentleman had forgotten
were 9th clause it was provided that where women
wlted Thearan/byed they might take their meals when they
De_t Whea Y case in which they were interfered with
„aliens m__aeY were employed where children and young
aiaitest,aao were employed, and that was necessary for the
&Ma La: of the latter.
—4ertea Vire_ auggested that the word" married" should be
tatr. a.. r the word "women"
seTiihie considered the amendment of the hon. mem-
• ge4tekoeY completely met by the statement of the
ai 'nary.
kta °Pood
str ehdroewut Ur. Gray, and Mr. Parnell supported the
toi!od ;
utely absurd. He hoped the hon. member
Dir. Anderson thought the amendment as it
,k.sosol
rttioltitorttattaftweye_e,4l.2otda withdraw it altogether,
, in reply to the Home Secretary, contended
necessary for the clause to apply to
.worpen
children, would be necessary to extend its
so as to meet ca.les in which only men
re we
417° 00ralzat,_ elPPlOyed.
.1/40..—efidtie4t,e divided, and the numbers were—for the
11.4 .gaIRSt it, 199; majority, 134, The amena-
therefore neiptiVett.

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