The Stourbridge Observer, Cradley Heath, Halesowen & District Chronicle.
Stourbridge, West Midlands, England, 1871-07-01 00:00:00

THE TICHBORNE CASE.

The proceedings iii this case were resumed on
Monday morning. and a large concourre of people
were assembled outePe tt e court to witness the arrival
of the claimant. Among the distinguished persona
who occopied seats in the galleries were the Duchess
of Cambrid:e and the Princess of Trek.
The Son& or Gonna) (resuming the cross-examination):
flare you the to I,Cal cer.ideates relative LO your got g to
Son:h America t—Woners : They were produced to conned.
I have not them in my possession at present.
The golicltor.General : Do you say they exist 7—Witness:
Mr Serjeant Matteotti:es/4w them to corvolltati,n.
The sollettor-Geuteral : Where are they t—Witaess : They
were handed to my attorney.
The Solicitor-Ciettaral : Doyouswear that these certificate*
Were given after the afillavit of the 3al 7 Wane.% : My
etion is not very distinct. but they e erg handed over.
The S lirttor General: Do you swear that you dad not go
not In the M ichUrt.t, with Captain Story, to Hobert Town to
151.3 arriving ft ere towards the middle of 18:a I—Witness:
I did not.

The Solicitor-General : Who were those of your Meads
and relations you last saw 111 Prdas befcre st.crting In the
?:—Witnees: Sly /*Faber, my m.ol her, end Cbattllon.

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The SoHefter-General I understsod Gist Chattilan asked
you to breakfast, and that Sir James Tichborne declined to
go, as It nal the last day 7—Wttoess: VOL
Toe Sallettor-General : Ind you breakfast with Chatlllon
whbe y were to : No.
The g dtettor-Gencral yon swear you did no' break-
fast with Chatillen and Madame Ciiiitaloti the bbt day you
were In Ports f—Witnees : No.

The 8 alcltot-';eneral; Tne but day but one 7—Witness :
not at that Tien,

The S ,licitor.General: You are certain that nothing per-
Wu's+ IlxiMetsd at • breathed with them juet bet, re you
started l—Witness : Nothing happened in pasicular.
The itUteltor-General: You went to Harm and Carted In
the Pontine !—Witness : Yes.
The .tolleltor-general : Did you go straight t Valparaiso?
—Witness Yee, except putting In at gatmonth
The Melicttoc.th.neral How soon atter 3, n re, or: et to thla
country old you go to Lloyd's, with, I thlb It, two other outim
men I—Witne I never went these, 1 don't know where It
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—The Salldtor.Ciameral: At the Exchange, Om to the Book
DA not you t Wed on down to Lloyd's, sae 11101110 of tho clerks,
and look at the ho ks, soon attxr you came holm ?—Witheu:
Tres was at the.llaywl Exchange.

lii. Lord Chief Judie*: 0: rug place near the Enzhange ?
—Witnees : No, my lord.
The SAlcitor General: D'd not you go to Lloyd's with, I
believe, your legal advises, at Intervals of two or throe digs,
os Sit R gor Ticht.orne, hat+ g the hooks out to search 1—
Wltners I have no recollocllou. 01 consideration, I say I
tiever was then.

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Tne Solteltot.Orneral : De son really mean to swear JOU
did not h qitre about the 0, prey Bella, cod Kent !—Wit-
um: No, n must be under a mistake
The 9..llettor.eler neat: Old you In.truct that a search
should be made 7—Whams: Mr. thlmes made some in.
mitts..
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Ttke-B,llclN-r.o,noral : Before you saw Mr. Hopkins ?
Witness : 1 thh k not.

Dld you say one word before ME
Rowell of your puttlog In at Falmouth t—Witoess: It
dinned my memory at the time My mind was upon some
foreign Dirk 1 bad no recollection of lt till 1 maw Falmouth
*tali

Honor-Gerona : it d you me mention it till yin
were atom ned In chief I—Witness: No. I Intil forootten It.
the s .lici,or•tleneral: DIA not you direct ingvitriea two
ronths since ea to the cone of the Paulin..? tiara y.O
teen the results of such it qulriesi—Wltness: No.
the Solicitor-General: I/A1 ton know a. ythloß of her
course till throw Inyntrlea two months ag I—Witnesa: I did
[lid give tudructonis that ttoinwlea should be mode
The 8 I titnr General l):(1 you siy anything ohut Cher.
bniirg before oil were examined heret—lN linen: I think
Lot

ine S,llettor General : Did you put In It Chezbourgl--Wlt•
nes!: :2 M.talnly 1:01. _

The r Goneral : Before Mr. Rau 8511, had you had
ay bretv.,w elb Mooro i—Wituesa : here.
Ce &Bettor-6mi eral : II he gave you cry It:formation, he
had oot air, 0 it then 4—Witueia : Ile did not give roe any
Informs:ion before or duce.

The SAicitor-oleneral read from the examination of the
claimai•t in Chancary, in which be said that whilst on boa,i
th. Pau/me he met with a slight accident by receiving a cut
In the eye 'rem an eb.atrose. Now, that was before you saw
Mmes. Ndw we will lee what you said before my lord and
the jury after you had seen him The Solicitor General read
from the evidence in chief of the claimant at the Waitc
mloster %Alston. Muse, in which the claimant swore that a
hook caught him in the eye Now, had you forentrt n that
accident when yon were before Sir. Itenasell f-11'31,bas : I
was asked about the accident, ami I descried it. I hove
the mark ow.

aoltaltoi-General : Then It was a second scold,ot ?
Witness: Yes.

-171;;;T.SII:it;r General: Do you moan to tell the jun that
the alb ttro.s and the hook were totally distinct aecideuts ?
Witness: Yes.

The bolicitrir Gemmel Did the blow from the albatross
here a mark 7—Wituesa : Yes.
The Sbllcitor-Oeueral : Which wee the worst accident, the
one from tr.n albatross or the cut in th, eye from the hook 2
Witneas: I alumni say the blow from the albatross,. although
at the time the ether appt aced as thnugh it would be more
seer ns.

--ile-tio!lelter-Genersl: Than one was In the Tight eye and
the other In the left /—Wltnesi : Yes.
The Sollettor•General : Then when you were before Mr.
Russell yeti dtd ant state the cause clrounist.inces as you did
before my lird and the j met—Witness N,
The 3,.lleitor.General : _tad when you were before my lord
and the Jury you were Lot examined as to what passed before
Mr. Itoussellt—Wltness : I don't think I was.

The Bollcitcr-Gener,l : Then rot menttcned ona thing
tet,re Mr R upell and suotha before thts court ?—tinthnee:
13-th accidence bengal...rt.
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The sootitor G.nertl Did ycu hear Moore examinad
herr ?-IVl,nese I did not. I was examined by Moore
In the presence j Mr. Spofforth shout the acc.dent with the
hoot.

--Itl.llcotor-C6neral : Did he (Nllrde) may that yan hd
mute • bah ehout the alhateoes P—Wltness lam not In the
batt or n.hh,r/ huhu. kLaughter.)
The SJllclior.DeLeral : Did be say so /—W.tnebe : Undid not

The Solicitor-General: "That you were out shoat that
altoirether '—With,..: He never said ithything of the kind
Tha : Did you remind him that you had
had two accidentst—Wituesa r d at know that I did. I
think no'. I merely answered the q :est lons which he put
tome. I had no conversation with him whatever
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The somett,.G.,:...i: You did not mention ro him the
other two der t about the wing of the alh dross 7—Witnere: I
did not I doh't know whether Moore mentioned It here.
The Solicitor General: Do you recollect at what part of the
roysge the two acciderka happened 7—Wituers: One happened
a fortn.g:st hefore the other—might have heen three weeks
Neither of them laid me up. I wee not confined to my cabin
on dep oaring the whole voyage.

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Tne S Alcitor-General : Were there any fellow passengers
besides yourself and Ilcorel—Witness : Well, it all depends
whether you call the supercargo • passenger or one of the
ship's ormpany.
The Solicitor General read from the evidence of the
claimant In Chancely, in which he said that there were two
passengers on board, but he would not eay two besldea him-
self. New. there were other pewenven besides yourself tool
Memel—Witness ; None, except the supercargo; he was
treated as a passenger.
The Sollnitor General: Was he a weak man 2—Witness:
You

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The Solleltor-General: What was the matter with him?—
When.: 1 suppose sea.alcknesa and general debility—gene-
relly 111 I cannot tell you what was the matter with him.
The SoUcttor.General . All the time l—Wituess : at
Interval, lie would get better, and then be tick again off
and on daring the voyage. I don't think the tea voyage did
Mm any good.
The soliPitnr-Genaral • 1-I'd he diet—Althea.: No.
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The Solfenow.General: Doi anyone die on board ?—Wit-
Den: No. there was no one died on board the Pauline.
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Vie S. Ile:tov-treneraT: When did you *rive at VaipAralso
June t—Witneie : I don't remember the day. I have an
Idea It was on • sur day:
The S iicttorGrernl: Have you got a copy of the letter
you wrote from Buenos Area to alra Seymour i—Witneu: I
lave not.

—Tie—gbitettor.General D yon recollert wrlttrg to Mn.
Seemonr trcm Warn.* /Wes I.—Witness : Yes.

The Soneltor-General : Had you ever a copy of It
nese : I think not.

The Soll,ltor-General Will you swear you never had a
eery of the !At orf—lfitnees: I don't are how I coold have.
The Sollmtor.General repeated the ouestlou.—Witutis
Yee
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The Mt., from 11,ger Charles Tlchtdorre to MIT Seymour
wee hserlerl to the wltress, who said It was hls hanewritloc
The Solicitor-General Will you swoop that you never
showed Mr. Holmes a copy of that letter /—Wltnees :
The fiAlrltor Grueral That Mr. llolmes d 4 hot show you
a copy t—Wltcess : Yee.

The S Aldan General Nor the Dowager Lady Tlehbornet
—Wither,: Yee.

Ihe Solicitor-General read the letter, which was very
lengthy, and contained the names of the place which the
writer had already tonchrd at on his travels, and the pleura
where he onleelnently intended to go. 11 contained some
fair descriptive touches, and alluded to special Incidents
which had sceuryd, the principal of which were the writer's
visit to the churches at Lima," the riches which exist in a in.
Is almost beyond belief ' his visits to the bull fights at Lima,
which were the rendezvous of the fashionable weld, where
k... a greater number of remarkably handsome young
ladle, than he had ever seen elsewhere ; and an accident
which happened toot. of the mules In making the event of
the Cordilleras. whereby one elite legs was broken, &', to,
Mr Rerjeant lialleottne I Ash to call attention to the
fact that the words which were read by the learned Solicitor
General as "beyond belief" are spelt " behond heleieve.•
The Solicitor General : What I amen to pool, that be-
tween 1849 and 1852 you were at liellipilla for about
three years. How long do you say you were at MelliptilAl—
Three weeks. I was not thi re more than once,
and that was on my return from Santiago on the 11t oc-
cation that I visited it One visit to Santiago was in June or
July, And the other six months afterwards.
The S Roger Tichborne arrived at Valpa-
raiso on the liith of Jane, 1853, and again on the 12th December.
W,uld that ne correct b.-Witness I think 40. I now put
my visit to Helliptilaon the return from Santiago on my first
Galt

rhe Sol.cltor-General: In the letter to Mrs. Seymour you
mrn,loned th.s you went straight to nantingJ across the
C..reilleresl—Witness Yes.

The B..nottor-Gmferal.: Then thee. was no time for a
reader., of three wets at Me t—Wltneas: I do not
know erht ton Are falkinp about.

The Solicitor-General ;thin is mentioned but once,
and on hot no time between that and the Cordilleru for.
visit to 31.011011 e 7 Witness : trent from Coons Blanca c !rent
to Santiago ; Cara Blanca is only just outside the suburbs of
the loon

lbs:Zilcitor General : Did ys ride thi ninth the night
*ow Vitiparalso to Santiago 4—Witness: No, through the
day
The esoilcitor-General : But straight from Valparaiso to
Santiago i—Witeess: Yee, straight.
(ih solicitor-Mineral read notes of what the clalment had
stated before Mr Boupelh in which he said, 'it went from
tam Stenos to Santiago cis Melilpills Now, you observe
Illiati—Witness: I do not observe anything of the kind as pm
put it. I woe asked to omit mentioning all the (.01M8 and
the% Is why I did so. !wee not asked to give the names of
all tie pieces I went to. I went to Cantisgo by way of Cese
Biases, and came beet via Me/litillla.
(Tee Lod Chief Justine read the Damage from the exami-
nation before Mr Bouvet]) . The only differtuce. my Lord,
lean tee is that the word "So" hvtlestoul or " trvm."