Easily Scratched/Shows Scratches,Rusted Paint,Clearcoat Degredation,Peeling,Chipping,Factory Paint Defects and Brand Complaints,Swirl Marks,Fading,Mismatched Colors,Scuffed,Orange Peel,Rail Dust,Oxidation,Thin Paint,Bubbling,Cracked Paint,Dull,Bug Damage,"Textural: Wavy, Bumpy, Rippled, Rough",Forgiving,Durable,Like New/Looks New/Pristine,Very Good Condition,Long-Lasting/Sturdy,Paint is Not Rusted,Smooth,Shiny,Glossy,Coating for Additional Protection,Not Paint Related,Post Sample
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Today, by mistake, I scratched my friend's new Tundra 2023. I feel terrible about it and I have, for hours, being looking online for the best remedy to render the car like pristine. "
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"All the detailers I spoke to said they couldn't do anything to blend it in as the scratch is too deep. I have consulted some bodyshops and scuff repair places as well. Any thoughts, advice or experience with this kind of thing?”"
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I'm not sure why they went Gloss black on the GT front but matte on the EB. Glossy sucks to clean and scratches easily.
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"They get hot as hell in summer, show scratches and paint defects easy, and obviously show dirt immediately. I will never buy a black car again."
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"If I could do again I would have got a lighter color. They really make the BAP pop. Plus dark colors show scratches, swirls and dirt so much more. Really hard to keep my truck clean and looking good."
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Black cars in general don’t hold their value as well as other colors due to black paint showing scratches and swirls extremely easily. These are not investment vehicles, at the end of the day they are economy Chrysler products made with very little concern for quality control."
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I have a balck soul and it’s hell to keep clean, if you live in a place with snow and salt it’ll be even harder. And unfortunately it shows dings and scratches way easier than other colours. If you have a choice go for the gray one"
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Oh and consider yourself blessed you got meteorite, I have sonic and swirl marks and scratches are so easily seen, with grey it hides much better"
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"We bought my wife's new Honda Pilot in 2017 and I was probably paid way too much attention to the scratches and how to prevent them with no luck. Now the car is covered with scratches in high touch areas - door handles, door step (or whats it called?), trunk step/edge of trunk, door edges."
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"VW Tiguan has been massacred by deep scratches, I have been experimenting with different pad combinations trying to remove the deep scratches."
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"never buy a black, yellow or white colored car if you don’t want the dirt or scratches noticeable. for one black colored vehicles are the worst in terms of keeping it away for scratches/swirl marks and are easily noticeable even is the slightest bit."
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"22’ owner here. 1.5 years & 25k miles. Never had an engine light or anything (knock on wood) main issue with the car is the paint quality honestly, and a little rattle from the exhaust here and there. The car scratches easily but that’s a known Hyundai paint issue."
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,My 2021 Blue Kia Soul has scratches all over it. It is only a year old. Something has changed.
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Ok so truck is very nice the the only cons i have found yet is the paint is realy shet it scratch so easily i only have 30.000 km on it so nothing has broke yet it still kinda new.
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Didn’t see anything wrong with the truck at the dealer yesterday (truck wasn’t perfectly clean as they never are at dealerships). I got home later and washed the truck and began to find multiple issues with the paint. Scratches on it that are down to the primer, poor coverage of paint on the front edge of the passenger rear door where the front door meets it, huge pieces of debris on the gas lid/door sills/and other places. I also had scratches that ran the entire length of the roof. "
1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Stay away from the black. Toyota black paint is too soft. I swear the air scratches it
0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Take care of your old car! It will last a long time. My first car was a 1989 Corolla that rusted away to nothing. My current car is a 2006 Corolla that is currently starting to rust away. It sucks because mechanically I had no issues. Salt, man."
0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Paint issues 2022 Rav4 hybrid black? just want to say my white rav4 hybrid has rust developed under paint already, 4 month of ownership"
0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0," the other day I happened to be standing taller than the roof and saw that I have two very large rust spots on the roof and tons of little rust spots on the hood and hatch. The ones on the roof look like the paint is washing away, like it was hit with acid. I went to the dealership I purchased it from today and the service tech was pretty useless, referring me to Toyota USA."
0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I have a 2022 tundra and it’s showing rust corrosion on passenger side roof edge. Any one else have the same issue? And is it covered under warranty?
0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"And the paint issues begin 😔 2020 with 45k miles. I didn't try to absolve myself as I clearly stated I replaced the windshield and spend time at the beach. A lot of the rust spots look like blisters on top of the paint, not chips. Possibly iron embedded in the paint [from my environment]. Yes, not Toyota' fault but the lack of clear coat doesn't help. Super white is more prone to rust/chips/peeling because of the lack of clear. Or maybe it's just shitty paint in general. (But I know it's my fault for choosing super white)"
0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"My dealer hasn’t activated the Qmerit install benefits, I guess I need to call them tomorrow, my sales guy not responding to me at all. I still need to get the paint issue taken care of, found rusted paint when taking delivery."
0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I have a 2010 2-Door Civic I got from my dad, all is well on it except for the rusted paint (common in Hondas anyway) and I’m looking for very low end, affordable way to make the car look presentable for the last few years of its life"
0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Jeeps tend to have pretty terrible paint all around. You might still be within paint/rust warranty though so worth a shot at the dealer.
0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Do the type r civics have better build quality than just a standard civic excluding the performance aspect? Such as better paint/ materials? Or does it age and paint rust and bubble just like any other civic?
0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I stopped buying Ford years ago because of this. When I bought a mustang, the headers were completely rusted in the first month, and it constantly had issues with corroding hoods. I looked into it, and so many of the 2010s and later mustangs have corrosion on the lip of the hood. The 2000s Expedition my family had rusted through the roof, because the divets let water pool long enough to make it through the paint."
0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Fords paint and rustproofing game has been very much abysmal these past 10yrs. My partners 2yr old escape had cancer on the door bottoms. 
0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Our white Atlas CS has SHIT paint. It’s covered in rock chips and rust spots.
0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I think we should start a class action lawsuit. I have a 2015 White Hyundai Elantra limited that I bought in 2018. The paint has peeled off half the roof and is rusted along with the hood and now side panels. Screw Hyundai!!.
0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Anything but a Corolla. My sister got one new for her graduation, the paint started peeling after just 6 months with rust spots underneath"
0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I wouldn’t cal it bad ownership at all. Hyundai’s paint is notoriously crappy, and rust issues are quite common. Just consider yourself lucky."
0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Bought a new Jeep JLU a few years ago. Sport S with manual transmission. It had at least six recalls in the time I owned it for paint/rust on the door hinges
0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,@artsr2002 - I feel ya man. My clear coat is so far gone it’ll take a repaint.
0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Paint, better looking than my 2000 Tacoma. Clear coat is going. Fading in some spots."
0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I got a 2019 camry se model. It's decent. The only thing I don't like about it, is the paint on it and clear coat is very thin. Maybe in a few years it'll start coming off"
0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"By you researching it before buying it. It sucks I know. But Toyota has had a history of frame rot in their trucks and white paint that the clear coat disappears from over time... Neither of these things is new by any stretch of the imagination. The stain near the protective film isn't due to the paint, that's inherent to the plastic film. My 19 Silver Sky Metallic has the same crap."
0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Trust me, you can't just clearcoat over where clearcoat has peeled or faded. I've tried it a few spots on a project, its very obvious and bad."
0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Let’s see your Black Civic’s - I have one 2015. After 10 years that nice shiny black coat is full of rock impacts and the clear coat is fading.
0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Darker colors tend to look faded much more quickly because any imperfections in the clear coat are easy to see.
0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Honda's also always had issues with non-powertrain things like their paint (failing clear coat especially) and A/C. I think my old 06 Civic started fading within a few years
0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Crazy how some Hondas, not just the CRZ, the clear coat fails and the paint starts to fade."
0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Having paint problems. how can i fix this? The clear coat is failing. The only way to fix it, that I’m aware of, is to sand it down and reapply it. "
0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Is the clear coat going to fail down the road? I saw the post here a bit ago where someone else’s ‘17’s clear coat was failing. I didn’t realize clear coat could be an issue on modern cars.
0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I need to paint the top, the clear coat has started failing pretty bad on top."
0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I was told that water based clear coat is being used on the stangs and that it doesn't hold up well. I have multiple rock chips and my clear coat is all scuffed up.
0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Paint guy here. The clear coat is failing. You can't touch this up. Needs to be fully sanded and painted.
0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Do you live/drive in a snowy area with road salt? Or live near the coast? Just curious as my first assumption is that clear coat is begining to fade. Seems like an atypical spot! Really spoils the look of a newer car!
0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I’m not sure if it holds true for metallic red, but red paint is the worst for sun fading and having the clear coat peal. With there being talk about how thin the paint/clear is on these trucks I imagine it could be worse than normal with them."
0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I currently own a Santa Cruz and an Elantra. The ONLY issue we've ever had was the white paint peeling off my '16 Elantra... I had it repainted at MAACO for $1200.00, and gave the car to my daughter for her first ride. We wouldn't be loyal to junk."
0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Meanwhile...... ""Here at Chrysler/Dodge we make cars with rust and peeling paint from the factory!"""
0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,My 2019 Pacifica showed blisters and paint peeling off and we had to take it in for getting it painted. Everything was covered under warranty. The hood is aluminum and hence it is not rust. But the issue looks similar to rust. Only happens along the edges of the hood.
0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I took my 2013 Corolla in for peeling paint before the warranty expired and they didn't submit pictures until after it expired. 
0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Toyota fixed my peeling roof paint on my 2015 RAV4 at no charge even though it was way out of warranty. I appreciate when they stand behind their products.
0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Don't get a Honda! All Hondas, not just the Odyssey, have a peeling paint problem that starts hitting at 7-10 years of age."
0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"If it is white, watch for paint peeling."
0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I used to love Honda and still sort of do, they were my favorite brand but a ton of paint on my 2016 Civic started peeling last year and the dealer and Honda both gave me the run around. Decided to stop wasting my time with them."
0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"5th Generation 2017. And I park away from everybody, keep my car clean like I mentioned. Waxed every three months. Detailed once a year inside and out. The paint peeling issues was the finale nail in the coffin. "
0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Nice car. I have a 2018 Civic Hatchback (17,000 miles) and the paint is peeling. Side mirror, spoiler and door handles have to be repainted. A little discouraging."
0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Back again… I bought this 2017 Civic Hatchback early this year and have been dealing with peeling paint. The first area I discovered soon after the purchase so the dealership fixed it at no-cost. Now I’m dealing with more paint peeling in different areas and Honda says I’m out of luck since the warranty expired. I’ve seen similar posts on here about paint issues and think it’s ridiculous that Honda hasn’t been held more accountable for this.
0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I also have a 2016 GMC Terrain where the hood is peeling off paint, coincidentally yesterday was looking for my SUV in a parking lot and saw what I thought was my vehicle by the paint peeling off the hood and it was another terrain with the identical areas where the paint was peeling. Don't understand why the class action was dropped."
0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I have a 2016 gmc Denali 3500 with only 80k miles. My paint peeling also on one of my back doors. Took it into reliable gmc here in Roseville California. They had a tech look at it to confirm, he also took a paint scan tool around the truck and found a couple more spots that were going to start peeling. The service manager also had another file on his desk for another truck same make just newer year but his paint was peeling also in the same exact spot as mine. That guy just had to pay 400 and gm took care of the rest to fix the truck. I thought ok sucks to pay 400 when it’s not my fault but better than nothing."
0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"That amount of paint peeling is a factory defect, nothing more. Poor paint adhesion to the primer or they are incompatible with each other. I don't have much faith that Buick will help you out in this situation. Paint longevity in the modern EPA / safe chemicals era is pretty terrible and this issue seems to be becoming more frequent across different makes."
0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"personally I'd back out. I have a 2024 kia carnival. within 10 days, the paint was peeling on the trunk. I also waited months for this to come in. when I brought it back in, they said I'd be responsible for the vehicle rental while they fixed it."
0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Talk to my Daughter about her 2022 Toyota Camry Nightshade edition and the paint peeling off of it at 8,000 miles and the dealership won’t return a phone call……"
0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Most Kia’s I see have the paint chipping away anyway.
0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I've got the same issue on my 2022 sierra denali. Low miles, seems the very purpose of the protective orange peel stone guard is in itself the problem. It is soft and chips easier than the regular garbage paint on gm's. My whole truck has got more chips than it should. Dealer says my problem is caused by the A/T tires I put on for all season driving. Of course it couldn't be their paint!"
0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,The 8 speed stock transmission is absolute dog doo doo same with the lifters. Oh and my experience chipping paint due to GM factory adhesion issues. Besides that it’s a good truck I like. Got a 2016 GMC Sierra 1500 6.2L.
0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,My paint is fucked already (2017 f150) so the shit is chipping everywhere sadly.
0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Nissan put half assed base coat on and let it go. This chipping and peeling happens to a lot of water based painted cars. Ford escapes are really notorious for paint chipping. Ford cuts corners a lot and Nissan too. You’re not going to be able to spot fix that, the whole car is messed up from factory."
0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2012 Kia Forte owned since 2014 has had a couple spots of paint start chipping around the car. Mostly on the trunk and driver side door frame. Any suggestions as to how to repair this?
0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0," This paint is really soft and prone to chipping, and combined with the steep angle of the hood it’s a rock chip magnet"
0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I think the paint chipping issue unfortunately happens to all new Hyundais and Kia’s. I’ve owned my K5 GT in wolf grey for about a month and the paint although it looks gorgeous it’s water based (from what I was told) and thin as hell so just normal highway driving I find more and more chips as time goes on.
0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"My 2016 GMC has paint chipping on hood! Company needs a recall! Yes, car has been under a shelter & only has 60,000 miles! This is clearly a factory defect as per every body shop I went to for an estimate on repainting hood! Any advice???"
0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Chevy’s infamous thin paint, i know they are repainting hoods to correct that chipping around the scoop. But the rest if the car they wont cover since they will consider “wear and tear”"
0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Has anyone else noticed the paint chipping easily? Didn’t have this problem with my 2018 Hyundai Elantra. The first day driving out of dealership a large truck kicked up a bunch of debris and caused these paint chips.
0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Hyundai sent me a warranty letter in November which then I was notified was expired, they decided to replace my white paint, it’s chipping even more then before"
0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"It’s white, that explains the chipping. Hyundai white paint is garbage."
0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"My 2013 Hyundai Sonata’s paint is chipping so bad. I have seen SO many white Hyundai’s with chipping paint. My question is, is Hyundai doing anything about it? Are they going to make things right and repaint the cars that are chipping?"
0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I have a 2017 pearl white Sonata. Paint chipping on the hood and roof, looks ratchet as hell. I’ve only ever gotten as far as asking the dealership j purchased it from if they would fix it once it started (when it was small and 5 yrs after purchase) and they told me it was likely out of warranty. It’s gotten much worse over the past year and I hate driving around in it looking like this."
0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Try having a SmokeShow car. The chipping is completely unavoidable. I don’t think Dodge has good paint. I bought mine off the showroom floor and it had chipping on like day 3 lmao
0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,My coworker has had his Fit painted 3 times due to shitty factory paint. It would all flake off near the window.
0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Indeed, between this, and the issues with the super white I think Toyota is going to have to rethink their painting. If they want to continue being thought of as high-quality product."
0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Toyota paint isn’t known to be the most durable and the car washes that have the big brushes that whip your sh*t can definitely leave marks. 
0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I thought the messed up paint was an oem, factory direct feature? /s In all seriousness I used to work in collision repair and the painters hated getting jeeps because they’d have to replicate whatever issue was preexisting on the vehicle. "
0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,There's been class actions against Honda for the 2006-2013 Civic and Acura paint defects and to this day Honda isn't honoring their agreement. My Odyssey EX-L had paint peeling off at barely 5 years old. Why am I surprised to find brand apologists telling reasonable adults to grow up on Reddit though.
0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Well don’t trade up to a 14-18. From the factory the orange peel is terrible, and chips really easy too. I’m not sure about the 19+ body styles. I’d actually be curious to hear some feedback on them."
0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Is it normal to have paint flaws on a new car? Even porsches have loads of them. Commonly even. Seen some fresh onto the showroom floor with machine swirls, dust knibs, haze, ripples, discoloration, solvent pop, etc. hyundai, kia, chevy, chrysler, and Subaru all suck."
0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Looking for recommendations for best auto paint shop in NC that does high quality work. Chevy suburban hood oxidized due to factory paint failure. IYKYK. Thanks in advance.
0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Mine have deep rust spots coming through. 2 body shops said they're obviously factory paint defects. Jeep doesn't care and refused to help pay to have them stripped and painted/powder coated.
0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Ram and especially Jeep frequently have pretty bad factory paint issues
0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Nice! The Ceramic coating will help the paint. I've seen a lot of people, myself included, with paint chips. The factory paint is pretty thin from what I can tell."
0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I can tell you right now that the Civics factory paint is not better than most quality aftermarket paints, assuming you take the care to do it correctly."
0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"There are known paint defects with Hyundai-Kia white paint. Assuming this is factory paint, you should contact Kia and push them to fix it"
0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"2015-2019 Silverados, Tahoes, and Suburbans had major paint issues on the hood and roof. I’ve experienced it myself, and the factory knew they had issues, but haven’t recalled them."
0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Has the underground color and was commenting the other day about bad paint from the factory. I thought he was crazy until I went to look at one. Sure enough I went to the dealership and the black one I saw looked like it had already been through the car wash several times.
0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Honda paint is notoriously bad.
0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I have a black pickup too. Prepare mentally for it only looking clean for 10 minutes and also showing every swirl mark or imperfection no matter how careful you are.
0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"You won't notice it on light cars, dark colors will show the swirls, then the car will need to be polished to look the way its supposed too. Most people don't care, that's why car wash business is booming."
0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Dude. I thought maybe it was me. Brand new. Three days old. Swirl marks. :(
0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"1500 is a bit high, but it depends on car color/paint quality and how much paint correcting has to be done. A black car may take a lot of work to remove all the swirls and make it perfect before applying the ceramic."
0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,GM isn’t known for paint quality. Swirl mark city if you don’t hand wash.
0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Relative leased brand new 2022 Kia sportage first thing I noticed was swirl marks all over it. Obvs came from dealer detailer.
0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I have bought a brand new Niro about a month ago and in a certian area had noticed these strange iiradecant lines in certain lights. After some research I believe they are what they are called Hologram swirls from poor polishing techniques which will come out. The car is black, I live near the sea (and seagulls) and the car paint will need to be professionally polished at some point down the track"
0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I have fusion black and I could see a lot of swirls in the paint after taking delivery...
0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Kia’s paint will swirl just by looking at it
0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,My local Kia dealer likes to drive every car through their automatic car wash before someone comes to look at it. Some cars have a lot of swirl marks in the paint already. Their automatic car wash is the worst.
0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Take it to the dealer. have them fix it under warranty. this happened to mine and they fixed it along with some weird paint swirls on the rear handles Kia in Folsom, said that they are well aware of this issue."
0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I use only touchless automatic washes. Mine's black so I'm worried about swirls from the big machines. No issues so far.
0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Let me tell you. I was just like you when I got my car but this car paint chips like no other. Hyundai paint is awful. I got my car in October and it has tons of paint chips and swirl marks
0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,No never use a brush especially on the Kia and Hyundai paint. They paint is soft and will definitely leave swirl marks. Only use touchless!
0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Yes, I absolutely hate how easy the paint swirls."
0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I took my phone LED to shine it on my navigational screen for my 22 Sonata and found that there were a bunch of swirls.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,My black on a 2015 Tacoma is so messed up fading and rough just burnt off. About to sell it due to the cost to get it repainted.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I’ve been using Klasse paint protection. Not as regularly as I probably should have been, but I never had this problem in my old Tacoma. Another Inferno Tacoma in my neighborhood has the same fading, and this morning a landscaper came in a charcoal grey 3rd generation Tacoma, and his is fading even worse. It seems to be endemic to all newer Tacomas to me. Looks like Toyota is using some pretty crappy paint these days."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Sorry to hear that and I feel ya, it’s not much still but I’ve noticed some fading too, I’m already hitting it whit some polish and wax before it get too bad and yea paint plays a big part on rust resistant so any nick or cut that exposes the bare metal has to be killed and painted quickly otherwise its going crusty fast, that’s what I’m assuming occurred to the impact bars, they can come with some imperfections, that’s why I’m hitting them with some extra coat wherever I notice bare metal."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,The Inferno orange on my Tacoma faded quickly but Toyota trucks maintain value well despite cosmetic issues.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"After 15 years, my Corolla's paint is fading badly even though the engine runs perfectly fine."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,And early aughts Hyundai sparkle paint started fading and peeling on the way home from the dealership.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I had a 2002 Sedona, already disappoint with dealer and regional manager 2 years after i bought and the paint is rough and fading"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I have a 2007 Honda Civic. This gen of Honda Civic is notorious for its paint recall. The roof and trunk lid have started to develop some wierd fading, and generally the paint is of low quality."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I'm honestly less worried about chips and more worried about the shiny paint fading in 10 years.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Wash and wax regularly. The paint that Honda uses is very bad. In my city i see at least 3 or 4 Fits in circulation with bad bad fading peeling rising paint.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Just a Honda paint issue, blue is particularly bad about fading and peeling. "
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"70,000 and going strong except for the paint fading on the trim around the windows that Kia fails to acknowledge or do anything about."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Been taking care of my Telluride and I’ve noticed an odd fading of the paint shown above. Anyone else have this happen to theirs? It’s covered (I hope) and I’d like to make sure I can avoid it in the futur
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I regret getting a black mustang. It's always dirty and ford paint kinda sucks, already fading."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I wish I had a carport too. My F150 hood and roof is fading bad. Gonna have to get them repainted, which I hate doing because I won't be able to say it has the original paint anymore."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, I just got this vehicle last December and I started noticing the paint is fading near the center of the hood. Took it to a body shop and was told that it's the base coat and that the clear coat is fine. Are there any defects with Cadillac black paint?
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Other people covered the standard items but I'd check the rear to see if you have the following color mismatch issue reported several yacht blue owner's.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Yeah that’s not a thing anymore but keep telling yourself that. Just took delivery of my own with 100% quality. Meanwhile my old Honda civic had mismatched paint colors from the factory.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Honda sales here. Perhaps the factory doesn’t know? My dealership recently had a 2023 HRV with mismatched bumper come to us FROM THE FACTORY. Like, it wasn’t even close. Not sure how this is happening and I’ve Never seen it before until recently."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I have a 2022 JT in bright white. 14 months old and 10+k miles. I have mismatched paint. At first I thought it was the old car wash soap I last used. So I bought some new car wash and kept it in the basement so it has a constant temperature. Ok so the problem is the cab and fenders all are bright white but the cargo bed, both sides are a dull dirty white. Tail gate seems ok. Has anyone had any kind of paint problems with the JT? I would say any jeep but I would imagine it would most likely be the plant where the JT is assembled. My 1st thought is it was repainted? But I was supposedly told when it came in and I don’t think they had enough time to paint it. Just occurred to me it might have been repainted at the plant. What do you all think?"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Different materials and front/rear covers aren’t painted together with the body panels. Causes a panel to panel mismatch.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"This bottom trim color on all the models is terrible. Looks like mismatched paint on this particular one. If this has all the issues the Cadillac Lyric does, it'll be in the service department most of the time. Big missed opportunity here, Acura. Meh."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Jeez look at that paint mismatch. Come on dodge!
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I put them on the jeep and saw the color of the paint is slightly mismatched. They're sarge green, yeah. But, they're noticeably less warm (and therefore slightly darker/flatter green) than the rest of the vehicle's paint. I'm not saying it's a dealbreaker, but for 5 grand, it's disappointing. Doing some research, I've seen that several people have gotten much worse mismatched paint than I did..."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I hate to say it, but no amount of blending here is going to mask the horrible color mismatch. It straight up needs to be taken back and painted with a better color match."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I've seen wonders done by a good paintless dent repair professional. The right person with the right tools could make this look brand new, or at least better than slightly mismatched paint."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Our Buick Encore’s front bumper didn’t match the body and it was a non-metallic or pearl white and brand new. Mazda is much better about it though and it should match very closely from the factory.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Wild to think that anyone would warranty that.. but id live with it or youre looking at a few hundred at a body shop. i would just leave it since matching paint might be worse than that small scuff.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,That's an amazing turn around. I was rear ended and it took 1.5+ months for parts to come in. Just got it back and the paint isn't quite a match :(
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Look at paint problems also, just about every '18-'22 Honda Accord has mismatched paint on the trunk lid vs the trim. Every manufacturer has issues but only Tesla is under the microscope."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Agreed, they never perfectly match the panels. The owner can never unsee mismatched paint."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2024 Honda Civic Si in sonic gray pearl. Had them repaint it once already because it was terribly matched. 
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Upon return, the paint chips were addressed with touch-up paint, but the repair was unsatisfactory, and additional scuff marks were visible I didn’t notice before indicating someone clearly scraped the car at some point. "
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I off road my ranger all the time. I've got a scuff under the back bumper and a few superficial limb scratches on the sides, rock chips, and a beat up skid plate. Trucks get damaged if you use them. It's what they're for. You'd be amazed what a good buffing compound can do. Plus touch up paint is cheap. Good to see that you care about your vehicle."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I’m pretty sure I see scuff marks right there you had something. You may not have been aware of it, but I’d be better than 80%. That’s the result of an impact of some sort."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Had a scuff mark like this one on an old car of mine that was from a drive through car wash. Came out easy with soap and a microfiber. I only wash my sport cars by hand so don’t have to worry about this and microfiber scratches.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I took a picture of this one because the other already has scuffs on it from my 2yo! Gonna try to get them buffed then some ppf applied.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,After having our beautiful car for a month’ish a piece of plastic flew off a construction site and hit the side of the driver door. No dents and it looks like it’s a bad scuff mark. 😞 Anyone know if it’s possible to take care of on my own or should I bring to body shop?
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Happens to me all the time. It almost feels intentional. I work from home and rarely drive the truck and yet I’m always noticing new scratches and scuff marks
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Any recommendations for door edge guards for the 11th gen, clear or color matched? Been noticing small scuffs on my doors and wanted to try installing some to prevent minuscule damage. I’ve looked online and haven‘t seen any immediate standouts."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,My only gripe is how scuffed the black trim gets…. I’m unhinged constantly with wipes removing all the marks!
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Although my dealership fixed it, my rear door handle is all scuffed up from them probably prying out parts to remove the panel. "
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I had the 2021 N-line and it’s nice to see they finally added ventilated seats. It was my only complaint with it other than the gloss black trim that scuffed super easy.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I have the same problem on 23 Palisade. Great car but little things like that bother me, it's my first Hyundai. I wonder how it will look in a few years if it scuffs so easily. Guess we'll see."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Okay i can take a look for those markers. But dont you think my scuff if a little big for just a marker fix? Its not a tiny little rock chip, its a decent sized scuff."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Someone likely (slowly) backed into you. Seen this before. If you wash your car and look super closely you’ll probably find scuff marks where the hit happened. 😫
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Yes touchless or hand wash. Otherwise you are going to get your paint all scuffed at some point
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Another consideration on matte paint is the inability to buff out any scratches and lights scuffs. Looks great, but too delicate for my tastes."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Orange peel is beyond ""paint correction"" that is sanding the clearcoat/paint. Your not going to correct orange peel with an orbital buffer. I've messed around with expel on my bronco and orange peel is the least of your concerns with it."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,My '23 black has orange peel very bad and needs a whole paint correction.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,22 radiant red metallic here. Also paint chips on hood and factory orange peel on both sides . I should of wrapped it
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Welcome! Orange peel is part of the Hyundai charm  Digital Teal is a great color! I had the choice between that and Cyber Gray and decided on the the gray. Still feel a little jealous when I see posts with the teal, though!"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,My 21 had a lot of contaminants in it. Orange peel too. my 22 pro had thin paint and a few areas where it was missed and could see gray like it’s primer or the body plastic color. 22 had orange peel too. Click to expand... I think it's a issue on all Toyotas I'd be afraid to try and wet sand and fix orange peel because like you said spots my not have much paint but cement with no wavy peel would look amazing
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"there's a reason why cadillacs aren't popular outside of the US i guess. look at the amount of orange peel on the paint, for something that aspires to compete with bentley and rolls royce."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,You aren’t kidding. They had one of the new high horse power Escalades at a race I went to recently and it had some of the worst orange peel I have ever seen.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,If it makes you feel better my 2023 Camaro has orange peel and its 100% brand new.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,My 23 has orange peel from the factory. I work hard to keep it shiny but I always see the orange peel. Not really something I can buff out if I wanted to. Wet sanding would likely remove too much paint. I'm not a body/paint guy though.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"My mom recently bought a new VW Tiguan and the orange peel borderline makes it look like some weird flakey, candied finish lmao. I’m guessing the only solution is a full repaint from the ground up?"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,You are not wrong here. Had to make a buddy go back to Kia after buying a telluride because that paint was 100% orange peel on the whole backend.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I could say the same about my '23 Kia Forte. I've seen worse but clearly there is orange peel.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I noticed most automakers these days have orange peel brand new out the factory. It’s insane where we are with QC
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,But I’ve noticed the same thing as nukedogger. The 2022 elantras have ridiculously more factory orange peel than my 2013 elantra.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Honestly I like the look of the Cadillac better, but GM definitely has the best looking vehicles. Also for $100,000 the paint looks like it has a lot of orange peel, looks rough on camera...."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I also own a 24 CRV. I don't have any paint issues, but I know what you mean about orange peel texture on the paint. I saw it on a primer gray civic type r in the showroom. If you go over to r/Honda, the orange peel on paint has been talked about on a few occasions . It is more prevalent in some of the colors."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Lol I was about to tell you the same but in my city we call it rail dust. We're a railway city so this shit is incredibly common, and incredibly frustrating on white cars."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,This is little iron particles from the environment that get stuck in the paint and eventually rust. Sometimes it's called iron fall out or rail dust. It's not an issue with your paint and it happens to all cars it's just easier to see with white paint. Can be removed with a liquid iron remover solution or by clay bar. These are common with car detailing. You can ask a local car detailer more.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"A week after I got my car home I went to wash it, the thing had rail dust all over it and the paint was rough to the feel. I had to ARGUE with my dealer to get them to wax the car after clay barring it. They told me they would have to charge me to do it, we were days going back and forth and me getting opinions from my detailer friend. They put their stuff on it which I believe is some sort of a ceramic coating, it’s already losing the beading and it’s gone along the bottom half of my doors. “You’ll never have to wax your car” they told me. They aren’t the best, I’d probably have to pay."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Looks like rail dust to me. Any new vehicle should have some kind of iron out used and then used periodically.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Rail dust (metal flakes) rusting. Clay bar will get it out. Brake dust can do same thing. Clay bar truck. Wash truck often after. It’s not rock chips since there is no indent in clear coat. The rust spots are on top of clear coat, not below clear coat."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,White cars a prone to rail dust
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"They never do, mine had rail dust on it and their guys missed most of it. They said they did a clay bar but didn't I believe them"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I made a similar post about 3 days ago about our white truck. Was told it's rail dust and half the people said clay bar, half said iron remover"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Rail dust. I see you got it fixed but clay bar will take care of it for sure. I had a new truck, white of course, that was covered in it and the dealer had to do the whole truck."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Best first thing to do to a new car is to clay bar it. The amount of rail dust and overall shit in the paint is unreal
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Probably rail dust, use some iron x on that and your paint too, rail dust can cause some serious damage to paint if left to oxidize"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Lol I was about to tell you the same but in my city we call it rail dust. We're a railway city so this shit is incredibly common, and incredibly frustrating on white cars."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"It could very well be just rail dust from transport, very common for new cars and i had it in my previous white car too. some photos would help like other commenters said. If rail dust, some paint friendly iron remover would take care of it. several good brands have them."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"That's rail dust that is embedded on your car, not the car itself. Use IronX to decontaminate it. You can clay bar any stubborn flakes after that."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Do note that yearly I’ve had to clay bar the entire vehicle to remove rail dust. I then wax after as well. My first white vehicle and I didn’t know about it previously
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Most likely rail dust. Notice it’s on top of the paint, not underneath. Rail dust happens from metal on metal contact during rail/ truck transport. The metal dust and raw metal particles land on a surface and when humid or wet, rust inevitably ensues. Should rub off with a little buffing, protect the paint with some wax."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Would the oxidation just be on the surface of the clear coat or also deep into the color coat?
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Yeah it’s a really poppin’ color! I absolutely love it. The factory wrap on the hood is absolute garbage though, it’s showing a ridiculous amount of oxidation and roughness on the elevated portions."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I have a 2013 Kia Forte sedan with 96,000 miles, other than the shoddy paint oxidation, it has not had any mechanical issues (yet). Quite a while ago, what we assume are the front shocks, started to creak over any bumps, and recently I've noticed during colder temperatures the timing chain has began to rattle, this only happens in colder weather, and upon startup, once the engine has warmed up, it goes away, a quick Google search tells me that it is common for this generation of engine for the timing chain tensioners to go bad."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I sat right here and said I didn't want any TruCoat. Yeah, but I'm saying that TruCoat. You don't get it, you get oxidation problems. It'll cost you a heck of a lot more than $500"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Not a professional but a hobbiest who does it on the side. Looks to me like a combo of oxidation of the clear coat mixed with water spots/ deposits. I would guess it needs the right wash cleaning/ wax removal/ then be compounded and waxed.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Finally got it detailed. Car looked great from a distance, but up close had lot of oxidation from sitting up for a while. "
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I had a similar situation with a black GMC truck and an APC. The roof and top edge of the hood had visible oxidation setting in. 
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I posted this on the EV6 Facebook page, but figured I would post here too. Has anyone else had a lot of rust and oxidation? I wash the car every week. I've scrubbed at them every time. Cleaner wax and rubbing compound wouldn't work. An hour or so with a clay bar took the bulk of it off, but it seems like it's going to be a big problem."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Not rust… you need to clay bar your vehicle. Oxidation spots from environmental and daily driving/ poor exterior maintenance
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2021 K5 LXS Glacial white pearl……anyone else noticing little rust specks in paint? Not rust… Oxidation spots from environmental and daily driving/ poor exterior maintenance
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"The dent didn’t rust the corner, oxidation did. Ya know, after he hit something and chose to do nothing about the damage."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I have a 2017 and my only real problem was my navigation stopped working so I had the radio replaced under warranty. The only thing I can warn you about is the dreaded hood paint bubbling due to oxidation of the aluminum hood.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Have this on my charger hood, small oxidation spot, I was told a new hood is the best option (OEM) does getting it repainted actually work? It was a very reputable non dealer body shop"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Not true. Once oxidation has begun there’s no stopping it you can minimize the oxidation of the affected area by coating it but you can’t stop it
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,You'd have to back to the Gen 1 Raptor to go back that far & they are proving to last 250k miles. But they do it without looking like shit at 250k miles like Toyotas do with oxidized paint
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,If these are both local to you id decide based on paint condition. Go see them in person. Black is much harder to maintain and will show its age more than the grey. Check for heavy swirls and oxidation on the flat surfaces.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I just bought a 2022 Lunar Rock TRD ORP. I’ve heard horror stories about taking them through the drive thru car wash, especially with this paint apparently being so thin. What products do you use for hand washing?"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,The paint on my 2021 is atomically thin and my biggest gripe with the trucks. Is the 2022’s any better?
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"And I hear that Toyota's White is a super soft/thin paint, so that is less than ideal as well..."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,My favorite feature on my GT line is the heads up display. I love it and the worst thing about the car is the super thin paint. Anything hits your car on highway it leaves a mark.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I purchasedan ev6 gt line in May of 2022. Other than the thin paint that chips easily it is easily my nicest vehicle I ever owned; coming from three previous lexuses. But it does have a serious depreciation issue. In two years I'm hoping to snag a ev9 at 50% off.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I've had a few different cars in my time and my 2 recent Ford's both have low quality thin paint. Sure some testing can say things but I've seen enough maverick paint chips to know it's weak like you said.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Yeah all Mustangs in my experiences have some thin paint. It's so sad.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Definitely very thin paint. I love my bronco, but I think there have been a couple little issues like this that we’re the result of the production woes. "
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Careful, I heard those tumblers have thin paint that chips easily..."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Mine is a little darker green, technically it's medium lime green metallic and I like it more than the light greens of the era. It's thin paint though, it's starting to show a little primer on the tops of the fenders"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Well I have personally seen failed paint on Chevy's, Fords, Chryslers, and thin paint on current Subaru's I own. I don't include higher end brands as you always get what you pay for, and that is mostly true. I still don't know that thicker paint is any more resistant to chips or scrapes?"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Jeep is known for uneven thin paint. Maybe it was buffed through? Is the paint checking?
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I'm a car detailer and if I knew ahead of time that Toyota overall used cheap and thin paint. I would've bought a Honda Civic based on that fact alone. Cars are meant to sit on the road for decades, why is a multibillion dollar corporate company making these cost cutting measures. I won't invest into them in the future."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I was about to get the 2023 sonic grey pearl (elegance trim) but I just read a ton of posts about terrible thin paint and now I am super worried.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I got a 2022 Honda accord 2.0t sport and don’t want to mess up the thin paint even more than it is.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"My 2022 Civic Sport in crystal black pearl is pealing on all the seams of my car. Very, very thin paint. I'm highly disappointed in the quality control of my Honda. Really let down."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I got a 2016 Hyundai sonata and it's not even white it's red and the paint has been bubbling you see little bubbles all over the hood and on the roof it already started peeling it's ridiculous
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I have a 2014 Honda Accord Sport. About 3 weeks ago, I noticed some bubbling in the paint. Eventually it started looking like the topcoat was flaking off in big pieces."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Yeah positive. I understand why you are saying that but in person it's clear the factory paint is bubbling.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,My 2021 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon needed paint repair under warranty due to bubbling paint on the hood. I started the process in April and it was approved. Dealership never called to schedule for two months.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Drive a 2018 daily since 2018 with 90k miles now. Love every minute of it. The only issue we have had was the power steering went out and the paint started bubbling. Both were covered under warranty and were fixed promptly.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,This is the 2nd time I have to go back to the dealer to have them fix bubbling paint on the hood! (2019 WK2). First time was last November and just noticed it again in different spot on the hood. Why do I think that this will be a continuous problem until I'm outside the 5/100k corrosion warranty when they'll tell me it's no longer their problem? I love my Jeep but I swear it's always something....
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Hello, I’m having same issues on my Santa Fe, hood and door, the paint is bubbling and peeling off in shreds!"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,There are 3 sections plus more on the car bubbling. There are thousands of people with this issue online and the company is already in court fighting a class action over it. That’s why last month they just issued the recall for 2017-2018
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"My 2019 Santa Fe is white, and I have bubbling on the hood. Wonder if its a thing they will fix under warranty."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I have a 2014 Honda Accord Sport. About 3 weeks ago, I noticed some bubbling in the paint. Eventually it started looking like the topcoat was flaking off in big pieces."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I was wiping down the roof of my 2023 and I noticed some weird bubbling in the paint and it has to be some issue from the factory. How do I go about getting this fixed? Go to the dealer? Am I screwed ? I bought at the end of December brand new and truck only has 1,000 miles"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"My Enclave doesn't have 10K on it yet, but the paint is bubbling on the hood. It doesn't make any sense because Buick has been known to be a good vehicle. It's really sad to spend $67K on a vehicle and already experiencing paint issues. Anyone else having the same problem?"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Buick Verano 2016 bought in April. These bubbles started to appear. Why is the paint bubbling like this?
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Yeah positive. I understand why you are saying that but in person it's clear the factory paint is bubbling.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I’ve got a 2014 VW Jetta and it’s a shithole of a vehicle. Lemon through and through. Paint chipping and bubbling.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Regarding the infamous 2017 Elantra white paint chipping fiasco, we took our car to get the hood re-painted in January of this year and lo and behold the new paint lasted less than 9 months before it started peeling and bubbling. Anyone experience this? Haven’t had time to read the paperwork to see if the new paint came with a warranty or not. I’m assuming not."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,2020 Ram 1500 with 59k miles. It had cracked paint near the antenna so I swapped it for a short antenna since I think the long antenna was causing the panel to flex. About 2 months ago we had a hail storm in north Texas which resulted in several spots of cracked paint and a few that are starting to rust.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,They arnt flat unfortunately! But yeah my paint is sun faded and cracking
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Thanks! It cost about $300 total. Same reason we repainted it… had too much cracked paint on the hood.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,My neighbors white XLT has cracked paint on the door from a small rock. 
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,A wrangler but maybe not a typical wrangler... I got ducked on my TJ with cracked paint and rust showing through after 4.5 years of daily driving it. I thought only pretty jeeps got ducked until I got 1
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Hey everyone. I have a Tiguan 2019 with less than 25k miles on it. The paint on the left passenger door seems to be cracking. The left door did have paint damage prior, but nothing like this."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I also have a 2019 Civic Hatchback and have just started having the same problem - cracking and chipping paint on side mirrors and door handles. Paint everywhere else is completely fine.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Raising awareness and trying to see if anyone was successful getting this repaired? Just this last month the mirrors and handles paint has started peeling and cracking off. I contacted my dealership DHC Honda of Mission Valley - they said the repair coverage wasn’t their decision, that it was Hondas and they would get back to me. Today they called and said Honda declined. I’ve seen several posts related to this as well. Frustrated."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I have paint Cracking issue on my EV6 that the KIA is not covering under Warranty . its so irritating !!
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"2017, same issue and roof welding started cracking and hood. Pretty shity paint on these trucks. You can see how thin the paint is on the cracking. Waiting for someone to file a class action suit."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Find a way to protect the paint, it will start cracking before it hits five years."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I have a 22 Taos S 4motion. 40k miles. Pluses are that there car is reasonably comfortable and drives well. Decent mileage (28.6). With factory tires it’s been great in the snow. Plenty of room. Downsides - Paint is cracking (see previous post) and they will not cover (warranty on paint ends at 36k).
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Paint formulas changed drastically in 2007. They went from an oil base paint to water based, due to EPA regulations. Smaller rock chips, paint cracking, easier to scratch, etc. have gone up ever since."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,The paint cracking is because the body filler cracked and let go. There’s an ugly repair under there..
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I had a 2017 super white but noticed mine a few months after purchase. The door had cracked paint on it.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Spider web cracks in paint - Has anyone noticed paint cracking on their new rav4? 2021 Rav4 Prime SE Silver Sky. This is on the roof by the roof rail.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I had said my next car would be white due to the fact that my current Kia Sportage is black which is a pain in the arse to keep looking nice. The paintwork constantly looks swirly and dull.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,The paint is so dull though. It's basically primer.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Absolutely terrible, and I mean awful, acceleration and power, coupled with terrible fuel economy (11-15 mpgs). - paint is super dull and fading Other than that, I am truly struggling to find any other gripes or concerns tbh. "
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Saw this same color in the Stealership 2 days ago. Hate the paint. Dull, hideous color. "
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I have a 2017 Kia Sorento and I noticed that over time my rear driver side door has lost it's glossyness/shinyness on the paint, it's extremely dull compared to the other 3 doors. Any ideas how I could restore this back to normal if even possible? Would that "" back to black"" stuff help or does that not add gloss?"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Which color guys?! I’m torn! Hear a lot of people say the underground is dull.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I think Underground is a little dull but I think the darker colors hide some of the “over detailing” that I’m not as huge of a fan of. I think it improves the look
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I saw a black one in person today, and it was a very dull black. I really wasn’t impressed for 58k on a TRD offroad"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Ugh. Get a color. White, black, grey are dull and boring. Toyota has real colors, no reason to drive everywhere looking like a contractor"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Mine is actually gold! I think the official paint name is harvest gold. It's nice but I'd rather something like the two-tone paints of the 2nd gen. The dull metallic gold reminds me of boring grey old corollas lol
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,That said what I meant was that Tesla's of any colour look as generic and boring as a white Camry. It's a lot of money to spend to look dull. 
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,The Prime paint is so dull and thin. Love the car but that paint is so bad.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I have a 2006 Tacoma (white) that has relatively dull paint.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"ome green trucks look good, and some don't. I owned a 2000 Tundra V8 that was a metallic dark forest green and the was really a good looking green, but the Tacoma that was the dull flat green color about 2 years ago, honestly that color made me want to puke just looking at it."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"My problem with red is that it doesn't have any contrast with the taillights, which makes it look dull and bland from the rear. "
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I drive a bright blue Corolla and it turns more heads than any other colour would. I hate seeing a sea of grayscale and dull coloured cars everyday.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I took it driving on the highway and it was filled with love bugs smashed all along the front end. I took it through the car wash that didn’t clean a part stuck on so I rubbed it hard with a microfiber cloth and it ended up scratching it. When it’s wet the mark disappears but once it dries it comes back.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I discovered this truck is a magnet for bugs and stones. I hate 3 dozen tiny paint chips on the front edge of my hood.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I feel like cleaning off the bug guts will put scuffs into the finish, but to each their own"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"In your experience, is getting ceramic coating professionally done to your Jeep worth it? I’m more so interested because I drive into a lot of bugs and I don’t want that to be the reason the paint is ruined"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I think EV's need a fake grill. That painted surface is going to get chipped from rocks and bug juice.
"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, My truck also must have been transported on the very top of the trailer with the ass end facing forward because I have bug guts that etched into the paint all over the tail gate. This is very very poor quality control
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Look up lovebugs. We get them every year in Florida and if you let the bug guts stay on your paint job for over a week (even half a week), when you wash them off your paint washes off with it. It’s terrible."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Love bugs need to be removed within 24 hours or they start to damage your paint. I live in Florida and can attest to the damage they do to cars. During love bug season I clean the front of my jeep using regular windex glass spray with ammonia. Spray it on the front of the jeep, let it soak for 5 minutes. Then wipe it clean"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Bug guts and the cleaning required to remove them eat away at your paint job so this just prevents some of that.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Best color for brand new CRV - I have the white. I love the way it looks clean, but man the big bulky front sure smashes bugs and they are so much more apparent on the white. "
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Paint very rarely just peels off. You may not have seen or heard what hit the mirror, but rocks do in fact hit them. Bird shit will ruin the clear and allow the paint to degrade. Bug guts too."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Now leaving other contaminates like tar, bird shit, brake dust, tree sap or bug guts will damage your paint."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,That painted surface is going to get chipped from rocks and bug juice. 
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"As for the paint, the best advice is to get bug guts and bird crap off the paint as soon as possible, preferably before the sun bakes it in too much. Best to use a microfiber cloth with some sort of non-harsh wash agent like a rinseless wash, quick detail spray, etc, (you usually dilute these significantly with water) and use as little pressure as you can get away with."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Bugs I usually treat especially careful cuz their guts/blood bond to car paint. Don't leave it too long, and I would recommend bug/tar remover spray."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0," Also remember that the paint is often the most expensive part of the vehicle, so be sure to get bird droppings, bug guts, and other various spills and stains off the paint the same day, you don't want em baking in the sun if you can help it. "
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,My wife and I just bought a cherry red metallic 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee the other day. I did the baggy test and the paint was bumpy. I finally got a chance to wash it this morning.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I agree. The quality of the work that was done is poor across the board. The paint is rough, and I already brought my black “N” for a limp mode situation @ 4,400 miles.I think they rushed this new car out too fast"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I just purchased my elevation last Sunday and today while I was giving it its first wash, I felt something wavy/bumpy right it above the GMC decal. I started looking at it from different angles and noticed that it does have small bumps. Now, I do admit that it only visible at certain angles, so probably nine out of 10 people would not see it but I see it, and I just feel so disappointed when I saw this after spending so much money on his truck! 🥹"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0," For my Durango, I had paint sag (looks like wavy lines), embedded rail dust, and clear coat drips all over the vehicle."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Is it normal to have paint flaws on a new car? Small hard bump right where you push the handle. Not sure if it came from The factory or was repainted by the dealer
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,It doesnt feel bumpy but it does feel rough. Its almost like sand has been flicked up and its slowly wearing the paint away. Id expect the paint to be much more durable than this especially after only one year. My friends new truck has the same problem. 
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Hey guys. So I just noticed some rough paint on the driver side door. Hard to describe but it's the inner side that sits flush when the door is closed. Well the paint started to flake off. Now there is a noticeable little white primer showing through. Would this be covered under warranty? It's 2023 challenger. 
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"this car has random sections (mostly front end and front doors) that are very rough. Almost like oxidation but also similar to a ""sandy clear"" kind of texture."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I was so disappointed with my red Stamp 1968 Cadillac Deville convertible; it had rough paint finish on both sides, especially on the doors."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0, I practiced on a 1990 Honda Accord that had neglected rough paint and had been sitting for 10 years. 
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Actually went to one yesterday and was told because of the area and being that the paint is rippled in 2 spots they won’t touch it so I’m being sent to a body shop.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Hey to all that have a hummer ev. I just took delivery and parked in garage. I noticed in the garage when light hits the right angle the reflection ripples like something is there.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Probably done in shipping. It’s more hassle to get fixed than touch up paint. Had a scrape on my vehicle skirt. The paint issues that are worrisome are factory and usually take some time to appear as ripples, lines, or premature fading."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Also the area above the doors on both sides is like a damn ripple area. Jeep should be ashamed. 
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Yea, honestly it does look like a defect. They’re very small and wavy. They look different than door dings and only visible with full sun out and at the right angle. "
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Kind of hard to see, but the paint on my brand new AT4 at the back of the cab is not smooth but bumpy. Is this normal? Like it goes from smooth paint to this bumpy paint."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Both will be tough to keep clean. The gray will be more forgiving when it gets some swirls though. Only way I’d have a black car is if I had a garage to keep it in and it wasn’t my daily lol.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Oxford White gang gang. Unless absolutely filthy, the most forgiving color wrt dirt. Looks sleek."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I have the Quicksand color but in Tundra CrewMax. Love the color... Hides the dirt from the north woods perfectly.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"The cement color on my new Tacoma fits perfectly with my outdoor, rugged lifestyle and doesn't show scratches easily."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,The Blizzard Pearl white on my Highlander hides dirt well for family camping trips and maintains its luster after years of outdoor use.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Funny. I have a YJ and my wife has a JLU. Hers pretty much always has mud stains all over, but that's mostly cause that sage green shows the dirt. My flat black paint hides it well. "
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,White is the best colour for a vehicle IMO. Hides scratches / easy to spot- fix and looks brand new after your wash it.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,White is easy to keep clean. It is what it is. It hides dirt super easily. Can you tell on my white car that it hasn’t been washed in 6 months? That’s nearly 40 year old single stage paint too. No clear coat
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Silver has been my favorite so far for keeping clean. Water spots barely show, bugs unless huge aren't glaringly obvious, scratches/swirls/imperfections don't show up as bad."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I've owned my share of black vehicles and I am too OCD to own them without spending an inordinate amount of time taking care of them. I'm a white, silver and maybe gunmetal grey guy now just because of the maintenance."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Even when it’s dirty I find the phantom a bit more “forgiving” vs jet black/plain black. Hides it’s age a bit more too since the color is busier vs a straightforward, unforgiving black paint."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,It's pretty easy to avoid swirls using hand washing and a proper 2 bucket technique. I had a black Porsche and managed to keep it looking presentable for many years. But that was also a metallic black so it was a bit more forgiving that plain black.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Yeah, black is really tough. My white truck is alot more forgiving, which is why i went with white, since I am really bad at keeping it washed."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Celestite is such a good color for this car. Not as boring as silver but just as forgiving visually in most light
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Nice. Silver is the most forgiving color when it comes to scratches and swirls, and it looks cleaner."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I wanted antimatter blue but opted for a more forgiving color with my borderline ocd when it comes to dirty paint and two little ones that take me away from time detailing.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"‘00 Jeep Grand Cherokee (WJ) w/ the inline 6. Daimler Chrysler made it to last, paint quality was exceptional. Garaged and still running strong w/ routine maintenance - looks new!!"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"It absolutely applies to the made in Mexico Jettas - I've owned 2 and they both have super thick paint. Hardly ever chips to bare metal cause of how thick the paint is on them. The '19 that I traded in after 4+ years looked better at trade in than the Civic I had before that after just 2 weeks of ownership, Honda paint is the absolute worse!"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Tesla's paint quality isn't the best but if you've ever owned a Honda then you know the pain. Somehow Hyundai is one of the few car companies to figure out how to make really durable paint.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Hyundai puts a second coat of white paint on the car to make it more durable, hence the extra cost."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"German cars and luxury cars in general will have significantly more durable paint. Honda on their speciality cars (e.g. CTR, NSX) will use harder paint. Aluminum bodied F series trucks and Audi’s usually have pretty solid paint. Mazda's speciality colors and Acura's $6k paint jobs are top notch"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Oem paint is applied in basically a Sterile environment by robots then the paint is baked to cure making it very durable to the elements and chemicals. It’s extremely difficult to repeat this process in a shop.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"My Model 3 had very durable paint. I could drive next to a salting truck throwing rocks at me (which sounded like getting shot at), and get no damage to paint at all."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Finally got my 23 Iconic silver Maverick XL Hybrid with Copilot 360! It is one of the more durable paints and I like the new darker tone than previous Ford silvers.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Looks very clean, as a fellow c4 vert owner. That “ring” where the soft top meets the paint in the back buffs out pretty easily, corvette paint is pretty “durable and hard” compared to a lot of paints"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I’ve also heard that factory paint is more durable than aftermarket and I don’t want to have to deal with paint issues down the road.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Great paint. My dad got a Kia Niro at the same time as me and his paint scratches when you look at it wrong. The paint on my car looks actually really good but it also feels durable. Could be just in my head...
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,The paint on the 2022 11th gen seems much more durable or something. 16 months and no chips at all on the hood.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"The paint is more durable than a certain other car company, so it'll brush off most small rocks."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"The paint on my ‘22 Rebel has held up thru a few wrecks. The paint on my ‘15 Jetta has held up remarkably well, very few chips and all in the front where road debris hits. "
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,historically Volkswagens are known for durable paint. I've never seen another complaint about thin paint on an ID4.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"My 2016 is like that also.  The uneven texture is done intentionally to try to make the paint a bit more durable against rock chips, etc."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,My 03 tundra has the best paint known to man. It looks brand new when I wax it.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"White, however, is the best and most long lasting color. I bought a 2005 Cadillac Deville (white), and the paint looks new. I have had other examples, the white is the most long lasting color as it does not absorb heat."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Paid 25k for my 15 in 2017 with 10,980 miles on it from a Chevy dealership. Trucks a regular cab, so nobody wanted it. Got 99k on it now. No rust, paint still looks new. Trucks been good to me, just like all my Chevy trucks have been. My last one was a 93 stepside with 280k and still had the factory original clutch in her. And the truck was still running strong."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Chose it because it, silver and white will be the easiest ones to make look new five years down the road. Dark paints show damage a lot more."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I’ve been very impressed with the paint on my 2020 JTR. The StinGray still looks new!
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,My 2001 A4 still looks showroom condition.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,My Denali is a 2019 and shines like new. Well worth the initial investment in paint care.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Paint looks fantastic. I own a 121V truck as well and keep my paint looking pristine but my reflection is nothing like that
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Daily driven, garage kept, washed weekly (no rinse wash) paint still looks brand new. Great stuff, enjoy"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Honda really improved their paint quality. My 2019 has never been in the garage and still looks new.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I hand wash my 22 N Line using the two bucket system. I won't go through an automatic car wash. My paint still looks like new and my car is a year and a half old. Automatic washes will create swirl marks over time.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Man my ‘97 sunfire gt’s paint is still like new lol.
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0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"It's a hassle to hand wash, expensive to pay for hand wash, but it's the only way to keep the car paint looking new as long as possible."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Wow! That paint looks like new after polishing.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"So I just bought a Pristine 1992 ford ranger 4x4 extended cab for a sweet deal (3500). Body is perfect, paint is ridiculously in good condition."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I bought a silver '14 SR5P with 76k miles a couple weeks ago, the truck is pristine inside & out, one owner, garage kept, paint is literally better than new, must have a thick coat of wax/polish, looks professionally done."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I’ve got a 94 extended cab 5.0 with 102k miles, original paint in good condition, hell it still has original floor mats, bought for $2k."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I agree, the paint is in really good condition which tells me the car was taken care of and not beaten up."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,Smooth! Your paint is in great condition!
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,The body kit on this 8th gen civic si is great! The paint is in good condition too! I wouldn't change a thing.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I'm the second owner, got it with 164k miles (now 171k) not 100% sure but I think the previous owner likely garaged it because the paint is in good condition and the Florida sun is very good at making paint bad. "
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Paint is still in really good condition, just curious what you guys think."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,The paints just in really good condition. Didn’t even wax her today
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Boy, from that picture, it looks like the paint and body are in really good condition. It’s getting rare to find SN95s that look like that."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,this is despite my car being street parked and daily driven for over 10 years (183k miles and counting). most people think my car is 3-5 years old because the paint is in really good condition.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"The car is from Utah and garage kept, so the paint is still in very good condition"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,I’ve noticed that most of the Sonatas of this generation that are still around still look really good. The paint is usually in good condition and the cars look somewhat together.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"It's legit, the main issue you might have is paint chipping but that is covered under warranty. Hyundai wants to keep their cars on the road and in good condition."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Yoo that’s a beautiful car, I’ve got a 2010 Wolfsburg as well. Enjoy man silver looks great and paint looks like it’s in a great condition"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Inside is like new, body is in great condition with minimal paint chips/ware. Car runs and drives great."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I just bought a used Honda civic. It’s in great condition and the paint is near perfect, I know for a fact that is has never had any wax out on it."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Other than being dirty, they look perfectly fine. Paint is another good way to tell. I can tell the paint quality is really good, good sign it’s original, and it’s still in great condition other than a few spots."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,This ranger is in near perfect condition if not perfect. Only thing I don’t like is it’s automatic but that’s personal preference because it lasts longer and it’s easier to control. But looking at the paint and the body panels and the interior all the points add up it’s in great shape.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,I have a 14 year old Highlander and the paint is perfect
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I’m not a big fan of the old F-150, but that paint is sharp, and I love that blue color."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I have seen countless teal (or whatever that p-name color is), purple, and other flashy colored Rangers from the 90s (original paint color). Also, yellow F-150s from the 04-10 generation, and orange or baby blue Subies and Hyundais. "
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Wow, cool . I am the 3rd owner of a 2001 Ford Ranger Edge pickup, bright island blue metallic paint 131k miles and original paint. The truck still has 80% of its factory installed parts on it today. Not bad for a Maine vehicle."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,"My 14 year old ""super white"" tundra still has perfect paint. In Arizona with all of its UV glory."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,Truck is still 20 years old and the paint is the best I've seen.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Neither my 20 year old Volvo, nor my 2019 Tesla Model 3 ever had paint damage down to metal."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,I look at my 20 year old Escape or my wifes 8 year old Impreza and can't find a single missing paint chip. 
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,Everyone knows that cars painted grandpa gold last forever.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,"White, however, is the best and most long lasting color. I bought a 2005 Cadillac Deville (white), and the paint looks new. I have had other examples, the white is the most long lasting color as it does not absorb heat."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,Weird. I have a 95 Honda that has original paint that looks great for nearly 30 years old.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,"I've never been able to fit it in a garage, wash/wax it a couple of times per year, and the paint still looks good in my opinion. Mine is silver though, so I would bet it is hiding some of the uv damage."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,Wash it regularly. I had a ten year old Prius in upstate NY winters before the Bolt and it still looked good.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,"Didn’t have an issue with a GMC truck I had in the past, I sold it around 250k. Paint still looked good, truck is probably 21 years old now"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,0,"The paint lasts forever if you wash it. 165k miles and paint on mine still looks brand new. 0 engine issues, starts every single time."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,Love my 2018 f150 321468 miles on it same motor and transmission and no rust any where on it. Good job ford motor company best hands down.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,I have never owned a F-150. I fell in love with them in 2015 and really like the idea of a rust free body on a truck.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,I find that cars here in Virginia do all right too. We seldom get any snow so rust is not a problem. I have a 2008 F150 and have had it since new and it has no rust and still looks good and shiny even though it has never been garaged.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,"No rust at all. Happy on that side. Weather goes from 95-110 in summer to 65-80 in winter, so no salt impact, and has been always sleeping in a parking so paint looks really good for being 15 years old."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,"I have a 94 f159 XLT in pristine condition, original paint and no rust and the most i’d sell it for is 4k"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,Mine still has no rust but I take preventative measures each winter. Your paint still looks amazing.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,"No rust. A few scratches on the front bumper cover. A few chips from rocks and other things, but other than that I’d say it’s pretty flawless. No swirls or fading."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,I just bought a 2004 LX model. I live in Michigan and it’s a South Carolina car. No rust on the body (maybe it has some on the exhaust but I didn’t check).
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,"2009 Honda Civic I bought it brand new, it has way over 200k miles on it and while it looks a little worn and the paint is faded there's no rust or dents or anything that would make you look twice at it. I love the damn car. "
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0," If the paint is truly that nice and it's rust free, definitely list it for $20k. If it's too much, you'll find out and can adjust accordingly."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,"Absolutely not, I got my Honda Civic 2012 LX clean title, no rust, paint perfect condition like new thats valued at 12k."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,The original paint is fine - no rust anywhere. Toyota builds the best. Honda is second.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,Mines a work in progress: 1979 Ranger XLT 5.4L supercharged (From an 03 Lightning) 4R100 auto trans 2015 f-150 chassis w\ 3.73 diffs Orig paint (rough and faded but no rust)
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,My 2001 Jetta Wagon Vr6 auto. is like new with no rust or dents clean paint and all bits are there.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,"Scotty I have a 2015 chevy colorado with only 46000 miles in nice condition no rust in paint, runs perfect id like to sell but it has so few miles and looks great and runs great. What would you do?"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,0,"I changed the battery once. No rust, paint still looks new, the 5.3 uses absolutely no oil between oil changes. I installed a catch can at 15k and I barely empty it."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,I used Adam's advanced graphene ceramic coat. It's billed as 10H and 9+ year durability. The kit was $140 on Amazon and i barely used a quarter of it. The paint feels smooth like glass. It's crazy.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,Nope it’s smooth when touching it no ridges.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,"Just purchased a 2015 Lariat 2.7 and I’m loving it! Smooth color, nice wheels and meats on her. Enjoy!"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,The paint feels smooth like glass. It's crazy.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,That new GMC Denali Black Diamond edition looks smooth and badass.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,Antimatter blue is an amazing color for sure. I bought it used and the paint feels very smooth. 
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,"your paint looks great, is it original? Looks super smooth"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,Smooth! Your paint is in great condition!
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,That is some silky paint and clearcoat on your challenger. Good job.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,That paint is smooth af.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,Personally I prefer black mirror and everything else body color. That paint looks smoooth tho.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,"Looks much more factory for sure. Also, that textured powder stains and is a paint to clean. The smooth paint surface is so much nicer on all fronts."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,I say this because your new truck “boring color” looks smooth and timeless and I think lunar rock will get old and the paint shows dirt and imperfections bad on our rav4. 
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,I have a 2008 Infiniti and the paint looks like the day I bought it. Smooth as a baby. People think my car is a 2019.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,I’m close to 80K lots of rock chips but i offroad so it is what it is. Otherwise the paint always feels silky
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,0,"Paint has been shit recently from all brands, the best paint I have seen was on my Lexus RX from Japan, silky smooth, none of that ripple orange peel shit, and yes I've seen them on Ferraris and Porsches."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,I love my Camry. I actually regretted trading in my ‘14 Camry SE. That body style was much sexier than my ‘19. Plus the attitude black paint was different and had those little pieces of glitter like on it. It was awesome. I had the back lights wrapped in black. Everyone thought it was a high end Lexus.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,"Magma Red - It looks great clean. But i haven’t kept up on it. 100k on the clock and I’m probably going to have to blow a good chunk of money to have it color corrected, polished, coated…… but when it’s shiny it’s great."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,"The paint is so shiny, for a split second my brain thought you had airbrushed those tanks on the side of your rig. Nice lookin truck!"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,Love the black rims on red paint. Shiny bright red too
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,"Looks like a normal early 2000s Mustang to me. At least that one is still mostly shiny, even if it is different colors."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,Love my 2000 Camry! 315k on it and paint is still shiny
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,I especially like to do this right after getting the car serviced. It's so satisfying. My Corolla is a 2007 and the paint is still shiny.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,"🤣 I almost had the color painted a glacier blue, I changed my mind last minute cause the color grew on me. Best decision I made. She's so shiny in the sun."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,"Man that is a nice one. Shiny paint, no dents in the sheet metal, no rust on the bottom."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,Nice shiny paint to hide all the bad stuff.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,Looks like fresh paint. Sooo shiny😎😎
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,Looks great man. There’s nothing sexier than shiny metallic gray paint.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,Looks good lol so shiny I can see your reflection in the paint
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,The paint looks so shiny even when it's dirty af. And helps hide imperfections.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,"Man that is a nice one. Shiny paint, no dents in the sheet metal, no rust on the bottom."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,0,"not sure if its just me, Hyundai/Kia has really good Black color paints that looks really good on their cars. EV6 and Ioniq5 black paints looks very nice especially when clean and shiny"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,Nice look. The car is mirror like with that glossy finish. Wonderful looking Challenger
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,"Hi All! The Bronco is ready for paint, and I’m torn between these three options. You guys have seen everything and I value your opinion from the heart. Was gonna do candy red but decided it’s too loud for this truck. Matte Graphite - looks insane irl and I think will pop with chrome and black accents. Every manufacturer is coming out with “special” satin/matte paints, and it’s super popular. I’ve always believed the bronco should be a nice glossy paint, and I’m truly happy with either option one or two. But then option three came in to derail my thought process. What do you find folks think would be a logical choice both in terms of aesthetic and maintenance?"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,"Thinking about getting the avalanche color. It looks white in a lot of pictures, so need to see it up close. Prefer more glossy gray."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,"haha yea black is my color, esp with a glossy coat, love the look of shiny black & the vibrant red tail lights! the red is pretty cool too, i like the shade they have. I feel not all cars can pull off such a vibrant red!"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,"Very well said. I recently sold my black 2014 Ford Edge Sport and only used a yellow rupes foam pad with Sonax Perfect Finish for a quick one step. The paint was trashed and I only wanted to make it pop but everyone who came to look at it was amazed at how glossy it was, even though I still saw tons of scratches. The HUGE majority of people don't even see or care about scratches and just focus on the shiny aspect of the paint so I definitely appreciate your chasing finish comment."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,That paint looks so glossy. Got any coating on it?
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,Nice look. The car is mirror like with that glossy finish. Wonderful looking Challenger
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,Something about the glossy matte paint makes it so hypotonic! It’s such a trippy color
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,"pressure washer rinse, foam cannon soak, another rinse, two bucket wash, final rinse with DI. the paint on my 2018 is still glossy."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,"Yeah, rock chips are inevitable at 150k, but the paint still looks glossy black. How did you do it? Only go to touchless car washes?"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,Looks good my dude. You can barely see mine from far away because it blends in with the glossy paint.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,My Jetta that was made in Germany was a 2012 and paint had the nice gloss look until the day I crashed it in December 2021. No American car can boast that.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,"I really like this non-metallic gloss paint they are using, I have the same type on mine. Makes the Jeep look less delicate. Congrats sir."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,"Nice gloss, the paint looks icey."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,"I bought a Sonata hybrid last weekend. The dealership has three Ionic 6 cars there. The third one was a nice glossy silver color, maybe light grey, that looked great."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,0,Looks pretty solid man! Maybe adding a glossy finish might give it an extra oomph but matte looks good.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,"If you want something truly practical, I’d suggest a ceramic coating. It will protect your paint from rock chips and whatnot. Maybe not the most exciting purchase, but you’ll be happy about it in a few years."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,You owe it to yourself to coat it in ceramic coating.. I see the difference in 40-50k mile cars with and without it.. it’s definitely a good idea. At my dealership it’s mandatory that every new Honda that comes off the truck gets coated.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,Ceramic coating works really well. Not saying it won't chip but it doesn't look nothing like that and I have over a hundred thousand miles on mine. Well worth the money looks great also
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,"Absolutely, I had ceramic coating applied to my car last year, and it was a game-changer for maintaining that glossy look with less effort. While the upfront cost of around $1500 might seem steep, I found it to be worth it for the protection and ease of cleaning it offers. Just make sure you go to a reputable detailer who offers a warranty on their work!"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,2021 Dodge Ram 1500 would love a ceramic coating to preserve my paint on my truck and keep it nice and shiny and looking new.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,I love that zinc coating and all of my MC stuff has held up great over the past 5 years. Still haven’t needed new bushing on my control arms either and I’ve driven my Jeep hard. I recommend all of their stuff.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,"Paid $1,500 for my ceramic coating and don't regret a thing. Been over a year now and my car still looks sparkly even when I haven't washed it in a while. "
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,"I really appreciate that. Luckily, the paint seems to be intact, thanks to my paint protection."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,Get a Ceramic Coat or Paint Protection Film on the car! Protect that beautiful paint!!!
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,I’d invest in a ceramic coating application. Protect your investment
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,"As someone who applies ceramic coatings and paint protection film, it’s a must have for anyone trying to protect the paint. "
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,"Keep it protected, sealant, wax, ceramic coating. Whatever fits your budget/DIY skills, etc. Keeping it protected from new is the best thing you can do to try to prevent paint issues in the future."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,It's a super thin layer of clear ceramic that protects the paint. It certainly works because cars look phenomenal after it's done.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,"Clear film that goes over the paint. Expensive but worth it if you want to keep it for the long haul. Protects against rock chips, road, grime, etc. That destroys paint."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,"The coating is hydrophobic and makes it easier to clear dirt off. Also gives long term protection - protects the paint. The coating takes the damage, not the paint."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,0,It’s ceramic coating and it is totally worth the $200 they are charging. It protects your exterior from the harsh elements of your day to day driving.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"*The post examples below include information that is irrelevant to our existing modeling. For example, anything that references the cars interior, it's metal frame, the plastic parts around the mirron, the grille, or the windsheild. "
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"For any car to remove badges - heat gun and some floss. If you don't have a heat gun, a hair dryer could work too. Heat up the badge so the adhesive on the back melts. Work the floss in behind the badge until it's a bit loose. Keep working it with the floss, once it's loose enough just peel it off. You can use goo gone or something to get the remaining adhesive left behind off the truck. Work slowly, be careful not to scratch the paint. It's easy, only takes like 30-45 mins."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"Lots of good parts there. It's always funny how not one truck will rot out the same way as another, the frames a roach but the bodies not bad, my 94 bronco is the exact opposite way, the body is nasty but the frame is solid as a rock"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"The Ford Escape matches up perfectly. The Tribute has different rear lights, the ones on the Escape are identical to the light frame in the last pic. Bumper and roofline (what’s left of it) match too."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"Lots of good parts there. It's always funny how not one truck will rot out the same way as another, the frames a roach but the bodies not bad, my 94 bronco is the exact opposite way, the body is nasty but the frame is solid as a rock"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"Long hood, sleek body lines, boxy front end, wide open front grille, short rear. Most of all it was inexpensive and sporty with respectable performance to match. It appealed heavily to young people at the time and still does today. It’s everything that Americans want."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"Question, I have a windshield on a 2013 F150 that has had two rock chip repairs. After the repairs both are still visible, they look like little stars. The last time I had a repair, (approximately 5 years ago) the tech had me sign a form indicating that I understood that the repair would be visible. In the relative distant past on a 1997 F150 this wasn’t the case. After a rock chip repair I really had to search for where the rock chip was as it was almost invisible. What has changed?"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"Agreed, I of course like the way it looks but of course I think with the roush fogs and grill it might look a bit better, especially when paired with morimoto’s gt500 fog lights for the 14/13 mustang which also fits the roush fog housing"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"I've seen a few rusty 3rd gens, and one with a completely rusted frame, but it's pretty rare unless there is unrepaired damage. Nothing like older Ford Escapes, which are all rusted through."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"Hey guys, I'm buying a 2004 Mach 1 Mustang and I'm super excited! It's in great condition and has only had one owner. Only thing is the grill mustang ornament was stolen years ago he said and he never bothered to replace it. After searching online I cannot find anything that's at least a reliable source. I am in Canada by the way. If anyone knows how to search one down I would be very appreciative! Thanks!"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"I can tell you right now, 3 of my buddy’s have F150’s, 2 of them 3.5 and on is a 2.7. Both of the 3.5’s have needed $9,000 worth of turbos by about 80-90k miles, and the 2.7 mechanically so far is good but a week after he bought it (used) the fucking panoramic roof popped out of the frame and needed $4000 worth of shit. I’d recommend no F150 lol"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"Its rare to find these in such good shape, they are usually sun faded and cracked up, it's a shame to get excited over such high quality plastic isn't it! LOL, thanks for the comment!"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"I would like to ask you a question, i need to replace my complete exhaust system for 2004 f150 extended cab. What would you recommend as a replacement system?"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"I do think that American cars absolutely shitty when it comes to like interior design now. My dad has a 2016 Silverado and that thing is loaded with nothing but cheap fabric and plastic, everything rattles too. My 06’ f150 however has much better materials even to this day. I don’t think America is at fault. I think it’s just less quality and more quantity."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"I'm selling the old girl to my boss soon anyhow so it can live the rest of its days as a light duty asphalt truck. I hope this was the last winter it will ever see; I feel bad for the thing. I love my little Ranger, but it will be bossman's problem in a while anyhow. Much appreciation for the help"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,I been in an accident with an escape 2018 model. Semi truck rear ended me at a red light. He was speeding and not even slowing down or nothing. Can't say so much for the car in front of me. In most cases trucks are better tho due to the frame they're sitting on. But most ford's like escape and or the edge have a pretty high safety rating.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,I know the engine and suspension is premium but man a few things stick out like a sore thumb. The styling and material of those seats remind my of grandpa's old outdated recliner. The plastic hood cowl looks cheap af and the use of oversized fender flares to accommodate the increased width instead of widened fenders is total crap just like the Bronco's.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"The only thing like this that gets me is when someone buys a brand new F-150 XLT or Lariat then proceeds to spend 30 grand on lifting and body work and power mods to make it look like a Raptor when they could’ve just bought a Raptor. But, if it’s a truck that’s a few years old, with a bumper, tires, and an aftermarket grill, I don’t see anything wrong."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,I have gotten two new Bronco loaners when I take my F150 in. I know they are basically base models but they are plastic and cheap interiors inside. Have not been impressed. I know you can get higher end models but I don’t know why you’d spend that kind of money for it.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"It depends on your preferences. IONIQ 5 interior quality is unacceptable at that price point in my opinion, hard plastics everywhere and the tacked on 2015 iPad screen looks horrible as well. EV6 is better but still, it’s a Kia and not a Lexus."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"They make the neatest looking cars inside and out and are super premium. Love this new updated Tucson, love the new Kia K4 (wow) and so on. Even the upcoming Kia Carnival van is gorgeous! I would have easily went back to Kia and Hyundai (I trade in every 2-3 years on a new car) except for 1 reason. They have so many recalls and seem to have a lot of engine issues and fire risk issues."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,Had the same problem with my Kia Soul fob. Opened it up and placed a piece of thin plastic over the button contacts so I can remove it if I ever wanted to.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"I was really tempted to get the Prime Hybrid, but they didn't sell the 2024 version in the state I'm in until 2025. So I opted to get the 2023 Kia Sportage PHEV. One of the features I like is the entire front windshield has the warming lines, which makes it so much faster to defrost the car. I wish every car had this as a standard."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"I wanted to like it, as it would make for a great camping vehicle, but after first looking at the EV9, the Carnival interior looked cheap and really didn't like the dash with that ""ribbed"" plastic chrome.."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,You're exactly right. The new Sonata is gorgeous. The tiger nose grill on the K5 and other Kia's is awesome.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"You excused the Kia Niro when it might have been the best car. Really, plastics? The Kia infotainment is an excellent solution compared to the chunky tablet. We almost chose one over an EV6."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,The new Seltos facelift Brochure mentions that it has improved the frame and hence it should be safer. Does anyone have an idea of how much better the safety of the new Kia Seltos has improved over the previous version? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,Hit a box on the highway… looking to replace this grill if anyone has a link - This exact same thing happened to me a couple weeks ago in my brand new challenger before I even made the first payment. I feel your pain.
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"I would suggest some dielectric grease as well, or cutting a drain slot in that wire loom, that wire loom is bad about trapping water and moisture that travels upwards to that connector and will corrode the pins. Lots of Chrysler active air dams and grill shutters suffer from this in my experience."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"Probably different connector configurations because they switched OEM suppliers from one Chinese company to another. The Chrysler ""engineer' (intern) who wrote the specification sheet for the new supplier was too lazy to check how the previous version was pinned so there you are."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"Arrgh. Click to expand... Welcome to owning a Jeep/Dodge product. in 150,000km of ownership of our Jeep, we have replaced everything in the suspension 2 times, throttle body, 3 sets of plugs, various electrical things, stereo pooped the bed, I could go on and on. The most reliable dodge/jeep product I owned was my 2011 Wrangler Once I removed all the dumb design features jeep put there, like freaking plastic in the ball joints. Move to another brand and be MUCH happier. We have 179k on our Ford F150 5.0 and all that's been replaced is one set of plugs and one ball joint."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"It moves the lights and shit forward to make room in the engine compartment. The early humvees were found lacking in the power department and later on in the mideast even with the turbos. The Humvees does use the Jeep grill, that happened before it was patented iirc. There’s some quirk that allowed them legally. I forget the specifics."
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"Wow. Hope they’re okay. And I had the same issue with my Jeep last December. I had the whole clutch replaced. Turns out a plastic piece in the console was interfering with the shift stick. The mechanic bent the stick just a millimeter or two, and voila! Reverse worked!"
0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,0,1,"Yup... The Achilles Heel of Jeeps has always been the frames. Any prospective used Jeep I go and look at: I don't care about anything UNTIL I get down low and inspect every bit of that frame for excessive rust/rot/patches, etc. If the frame is good, anything else can be relatively easily addressed. I have lost a couple of Jeeps to frame rust, which is a hazard living about 300 yards from the Atlantic ocean, and it sucked because they ran just fine! Not worried about flash rust on the drive shaft, muffler components, etc. I'm looking for ROT! IE: You poke it with a screwdriver and it goes right through... That kind of rot."