conv: I have been on my son to start taking a more active role everyday life stuff like mainting a sleep scedule.  After weeks of pushing the issue he still hasn't done so. I have been trying to get my oldest son to be more responsible.  I started out small by asking him to adopt a good sleep schedule.  After several weeks he still hasn't. Oh no. Is he responsible with school or a job? He does well enough in school.  I think that might make him think he doesn't need any disciple in everyday life.  Make me worry a bit. I understand_comma_ he will learn though once he gets a job and has to pay bills that he will want to go to sleep at a decent time!