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Twenty-sixth report of Standing Committee on Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs-Mr. Gaston Clermont (Gatineau).
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Fourth report of Standing Committee on Veterans Affairs-Mr. Francis.
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Thirteenth and fourteenth report of Standing Committee on Transport and Communications, in French and English-Mr. H.-Pit Les-sard (LaSalle).
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Third report of Special Committee on Statutory Instruments-Mr. MacGuigan.
[Editor's Note: For text of above reports see today's Votes and Proceedings.]

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STATEMENT ON ACTIVITIES Hon. Gerard Pelletier (Secretary of State):
Mr. Speaker, during the past two weeks there have been numerous allegations concerning some persons associated with the Company of Young Canadians.
According to the act adopted by parliament in 1966, the basic objective of the Company of Young Canadians is to support, encourage and organize programs for social and economic community development in Canada through voluntary service. The Company may engage in community development work, in urban and rural areas in Canada, and it may organize programs designed primarily to widen the
social and economic opportunities of Canadians. The result is that inevitably the Company of Young Canadians works with urban renewal, rural poverty, and other less privileged groups of society.
Because of the nature of these activities, the government must expect to receive from time to time requests for investigation of alleged indiscretions committed by volunteer members of the Company of Young Canadians.
The most recent requests have been disturbing. Allegations of criminal activities which are substantiated should be dealt with before the courts in the normal manner.
However, usually responsible sources, without producing evidence, have alleged the utilization of the Company of Young Canadians to cover the furtherance of subversive activities. If these allegations are accurate, the Government stands ready to recommend to parliament necessary action, either by way of amendment to the act or establishment of a trusteeship to oversee the activities of the Company. If, on the other hand, these allegations are not substantiated, it will be necessary to reaffirm the good name of the Company of Young Canadians.
This house unanimously established the Company of Young Canadians as an organization which is uniquely independent. Ten of the fifteen members of its governing council are elected by the volunteers. The Company is not an agency of the Crown or in any way subject to direction by the government or any minister.
Parliament insisted upon this degree of independence. Therefore it would appear appropriate that any fundamental review of the Company's activities be undertaken by this house.
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For the aforesaid reasons, Mr. Speaker, the government proposes that this whole matter be examined by a committee of the House.
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Hon. Robert L. Stanfield (Leader of the Opposition):: Mr. Speaker, since I have suggested that at least a committee of the house should be established in order to inquire into the charges made, I must welcome the change
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Company of Young Canadians in the government's attitude as expressed by the minister this afternoon.
Serious charges have been made. The original attitude of the minister seemed to be that a police inquiry and a government inquiry would be adequate. This seemed to me to be a most inadequate and unfortunate response to the serious charges made by persons in very responsible positions at the federal and other levels of government.
I want to make it clear that I certainly support the original aims and purposes of the Company of Young Canadians. It is important that parliament and the public receive answers in respect of some of the charges, and the only satisfactory method under the circumstances appears to be a public inquiry. I trust that the terms of reference of the committee will be broad enough to permit a full review of the Company's activities, thus ensuring that the house will be fully informed as to whether or not the Company and its members are conforming to the purpose for which it was established or whether, on the other hand, they are departing from these purposes.
It is natural, and I understand this, that a company established for the purpose of assisting the underprivileged is bound to create a certain amount of controversy. However if members of the Company have gone so far as to engage in activities designed to undermine municipal governments, as has been alleged, then of course that is a very different story.
Therefore, Mr. Speaker, I do welcome the change in the minister's attitude and I support the establishment of this committee.


Mr. T. C. Douglas (Nanaimo-Cowichan-The Islands):: Mr. Speaker, the minister has intimated to the House that it is the government's intention to ask that a committee of this House investigate the Company of Young Canadians. If the purpose of appointing such a committee is to examine and evaluate the program which the Company of Young Canadians is endeavouring to implement then, of course, we would welcome this statement.
However, if one reads the minister's statement carefully, one cannot but gather the impression that the purpose of appointing the committee is to look into the fact that, and I quote the minister's own statement:
-usually responsible sources without producing evidence, have alleged the utilization of the Company of Young Canadians to cover the furtherance of subversive activities.

I suggest that if that is the purpose of appointing a committee, then we are setting a very dangerous precedent and embarking upon a path that could do irreparable damage. This parliament is not a court of law. This parliament ought not to be used for witch hunting. If there are individuals who have conducted themselves in a manner that is unbecoming to the role of the Company of Young Canadians, then they should be dealt with by turning over specific complaints about the individuals concerned to the executive director. If the executive director does not take disciplinary action then the director, who is appointed by order in council, can be dismissed by the government.
If there are members of the Company of Young Canadians who have been guilty of illegal acts, then of course it is in the courts of the country that they should be tried. But if a committee of this House is to be asked to investigate alleged utilization of the Company of Young Canadians in the furtherance of subversive activities, which the minister himself says have not been corroborated by any evidence, then I submit it is only a matter of time until other public agencies will be subjected to this kind of sweeping indictment. I submit that to indict an agency is a dangerous procedure. If there are specific complaints, the persons responsible should be named and disciplinary action should be taken. I hope this House is surely not prepared to emulate the sinister witch hunts which were set in motion in the United States by the late and unlamented Senator McCarthy.
All of us have had some concern about the effectiveness of the program of the Company of Young Canadians. Some of the projects that have been undertaken have been excellent; some have not been successful. Part of the responsibility for this lies with the government. This organization was set up as part of the window dressing for the war against poverty. The role of the Company of Young Canadians has never been clearly defined. It has never had either the personnel or adequate resources to do the job allocated to it. The permanent council was set up only at the beginning of this month. AH this time the Company has been operating with a provisional council.
Certainly, an examination of whether or not this organization is fulfilling any useful function is important. I submit that if we are going to investigate unsubstantiated charges that the organization is a front for subversive activities, there is a proper place for that to. be done and it is not in parliament.
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Mr. Gilbert Rondeau (Shefford):: Mr. Speaker, following the remarks made by the Secretary of State (Mr. Pelletier) about the Company of Young Canadians, I must say that the conclusion he has arrived at is somewhat disappointing to us on this side of the house, because it does not follow the recommendations and wishes of the Chairman of the Executive Committee of the city of Montreal, who is an important figure, and who has made some very serious charges. Mr. Saulnier has asked the federal government to set up a royal commission of inquiry to clarify the whole matter, but the minister concerned has not seen fit to follow up this request made by the Chairman of the Executive Committee of the city of Montreal where the trouble occurred a few weeks ago, creating a very dramatic and serious situation.
Considering the circumstances, a committee of the house would, to my mind, be a tool in the hands of the federal government, a tool that it would use to minimize the importance of an investigation in such a serious and important matter.
For instance, the Chairman of the Executive Committee of the city of Montreal states that the Company of Young Canadians has become the tool of revolution, that it promotes revolution, disorder, dictatorship, resistance to the police and criminal activities such as the use of firearms or potassium cyanide.
Mr. Speaker, considering the circumstances, and since very serious charges have been made, parliament would be well advised to establish a royal commission, free from all control by the house, to investigate thoroughly the activities of the Company, and its finances in particular, in order to prove definitely that the charges are unfounded or to find the guilty parties.
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As, for instance, we presently know of some newspapers which are encouraged by the Company of Young Canadians, it would be important to know where the money to finance such newspapers comes from, since they spread the idea of revolution and advocate subversion.
In view of the accusations made by the chairman of the Executive Committee of the city of Montreal, we think it would be preferable that a royal commission be established to
Company of Young Canadians inquire into every aspect of the matter, because a committee of the house might not have the powers needed to scrutinize the accounts of the Company of Young Canadians and determine what funds were spent each year-in the range of about $2 million-to support this Company.
There are good elements within this Company, and we should not only strive at uncovering the guilty ones, but rather at straightening up an attitude, a way of thinking and the procedures that have been used. I have here the August 1969 issue of Pouvoir Ouvrier, the workmen's newspaper in St. Jerome, in which the Company of Young Canadians published the following advertisement on page 2, and I quote:
Visit:
Livres et Periodiques Progressistes Ltee.
Marxist-Leninist and anti-imperialist literature, as well as revolutionary papers from around the world. "People, and people alone, are the generating power, the makers of history".
Mao Tse Tung
Such literature is spread around and we would set up a parliamentary committee, with extremely limited means, to change the policy the Company of Young Canadians has been following for some time.
No other solution was found except to refer the problem to a committee of the house. The committee would not have enough powers and would be too directly dependent on parliament. It would then be difficult to find those who are really responsible. The public wants explanations and a serious inquiry into this matter, because after all it has been financing the Company of Young Canadians until now.
It is our duty to ask for a judicial inquiry into this matter in order to meet the demands of the taxpayers and to punish the agitators. We must do justice to the good elements in the Company who have been affected by the bad publicity their association has received these last few weeks.



CANADIAN COMMITTEE ON CORRECTIONS


Hon. G. J. Mcllraiih (Solicitor General):: Mr. Speaker, I beg leave to table the report of the Canadian Committee on Corrections.



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PANARCTIC OILS LIMITED


Mr. Russell C. Honey (Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development):: Mr. Speaker, I am pleased to table the annual report of Panarctic Oils Limited for 1968.



QUESTIONS ON THE ORDER PAPER

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Mr. Fortin: 1.	At the present time, under what authority is power to adopt regulations granted to (a) the Cabinet or the Governor in Council (b) Ministers (c) any other body, individual or government agency?
2.	Over the past five years, what federal regulations have been rescinded, in whole or in part by a jurisdictional body, with reference in each case?
3.	Before a regulation is adopted, what steps are taken to ensure that it does not go beyond the delegated authority limits agreed to by Parliament?


Mr. Yves Forest (Parliamentary Secretary to President of the Privy Council):: 1. and
3.	The answers to this question have been furnished in general terms in the government's response to questions posed by the Special Committee on Statutory Instruments. As to the actual regulatory powers they are set out in the Statutes which are public documents.
2.	There has been no comprehensive record kept of the instances where a regulation has been nullified.


CANADIAN CONSTITUTION-APPLICATION OF STATUTE OF WESTMINSTER
Mr. Maiie: Is it the government's intention to avail itself of the provisions of the Statute of Westminster-1931 in order to resolve problems now being faced in constitutional matters?


Mr. J. E. Walker (Parliamentary Secretary to Prime Minister):: The government, in
its constitutional discussions with the provinces, pays heed to all statutes of a special constitutional nature in force in Canada.


MINIMUM LIVING STANDARD-STUDY OF ESSENTIAL FACTORS
Mr. Fortin: 1.	Has the government undertaken or will it undertake a study in order to define the essential factors of a satisfactory minimum living standard and, if so, when will the report be available?
2.	Who are the members of the Task Force working on such study?


James Edgar Walker: 1 and 2. At the present time there is no study underway at the federal level to define and identify minimum standards for satisfactory living. However, a proposal for such a study has been made and consideration is being given to this matter.


REPRESENTATIONS CONCERNING THE LABRADOR QUESTION PRIOR TO 1964
Mr. Fortin: 1.	With regard to the answer to Question No. 979, concerning Labrador, what correspondence, briefs or other documents did the government receive relating to this matter, prior to 1964?
2.	What was the substance of these documents, and with whom did they originate?
3.	Will these documents be made public, and if not, for what reason?
4.	Has the government studied, or will it study, the Labrador question?


Hon. John N. Turner (Minister of Justice):: 1 and 2. In 1907 the Governments of Canada and the Colony of Newfoundland agreed to submit the question of the Labrador boundary between Canada and Newfoundland to the decision of the Judicial Committee of the Privy Council. The Department of Justice records on this subject consist of sixteen volumes and numerous large storage pockets, containing correspondence and memoranda with reference to the conduct and preparation of the case, exchanged between the Department of Justice and various other government departments and the governments of Newfoundland and Quebec, all of which are privileged documents. The latter part of the file consists of correspondence from interested parties and libraries requesting copies of "The Labrador Boundary Case", a small number of which were available for free distribution. The case consisted of twelve volumes. Sets were distributed to libraries throughout Canada, the United States and Europe.
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Case", as mentioned above. A set of the volumes was supplied to the Parliamentary library.
4.	Newfoundland became a Province of Canada pursuant to negotiated Terms of Union that defined the boundaries of the new province in terms of the Judicial Committee's report of March 1st, 1927 in relation to the coast of Labrador. The Terms of Union were given the force of law by the British North America Act, 1949. In the circumstances the Government is not aware of any current question in this connection that requires study.


EXPO CANAL BOATS
Mr. Saltsman: 1.	Were the eight canal boats built for and used at Expo (which were used last summer to ferry passengers across the Detroit River to Peche Island by the Sirrah Company), put on the open market for sale by the department responsible for Expo?
2.	What was the original cost of the boats?
3.	What was their selling price to the Sirrah Company?
4 Was the selling price published in any newspaper or other periodical in the Windsor area?
5.	What percentage did the federal government pay towards the construction of the four ferries?
6.	Does the Sirrah Company receive a federal ferry subsidy and is it a condition of this subsidy that these ferries shall operate on regular halfhour schedules notwithstanding weather conditions and, if there was such a subsidy, in what amount?


Yves Forest: I am
informed by the Department of Industry, Trade and Commerce and the Department of Transport as follows:
1,	2, 3 and 4. The canal boats referred to in Part 1 were not owned by the Canadian Corporation for the 1967 World Exhibition. There was no subsidy paid for the construction on these canal boats by either the above corporation or the Department of Industry, Trade and Commerce.
The purchase and sale of these boats and the arrangements related thereto, were between private interests. No knowledge is available on the original cost, selling price or the terms.
5.	The Sirrah Company did construct four ferries in 1968 which were eligible for subsidies by the Department of Industry, Trade and Commerce. Total costs for these ferries amounted to $441,000 for which a subsidy was paid amounting to $110,250.
6.	No.
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CANADIAN NATIONAL RAILWAYS COMMUNICATIONS SERVICE
Mr. Mazankowski: 1.	Does the CNR operate an exclusive communication service and, if not, under what arrangement is this service offered the public in the name of the CNR?
2.	Did the CNR's telegraph service operate at a profit in 1968 and, if so, what was the amount of profit to the company?


Hon. Donald C. Jamieson (Minister of Transport):: The management of Canadian
National Railways advises as follows: 1. Pursuant to Section 26 of the Canadian National Railways Act being Chapter 29 of the Statutes of Canada 1955, the CNR is empowered to establish, construct or acquire by purchase, lease or otherwise and to maintain and operate telecommunication facilities systems and services in Canada and elsewhere. In addition, it may carry on a public telecommunications business and may enter into arrangements with other telecommunication companies or Her Majesty for the exchange and transmission of messages or for the maintenance or working, in whole or in part, of the telecommunication systems of the respective companies or Her Majesty. However, it does not possess an exclusive franchise anywhere in Canada for the provision or operation of such services. Certain telecommunications properties or works in the Yukon Territory, in parts of Northern British Columbia and in Newfoundland which are vested in or owned, controlled or occupied by Her Majesty, pursuant to various Orders in Council have been entrusted to the Railway for management and operation. In addition, Canadian National provides the only public telecommunication services in parts of the Northwest Territories.
2.	In addition to a telegraph message service provided to the public the Company engages in a diversity of telecommunications activities including the operation of local and long distance commercial telephone services, the provision of private wire circuits, a Telex Network, and facilities for radio and TV network transmissions. The telegram constitutes less than \ of the commercial communications business handled by the Company and is not compensatory. However, as shown on Page 37 of the Company's Annual Report for the year 1968 which was tabled in the House of Commons on April 24, 1969, the net income realized from the overall operations of the Telecommunications Department during the year 1968 was $8,654,140.
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INVESTIGATION OF REGIONAL MONETARY POLICY
Mr. Broadbent: 1.	Is the Department of Regional Economic Expansion or the Department of Finance or the Bank of Canada investigating the question of regional monetary policy in Canada and, if not, for what reason?
2.	If so, what specific research projects have been undertaken and when are they expected to be completed?


Hon. E. J. Benson (Minister of Finance):: 1.	The Bank of Canada has investigated the question of regional monetary policy in Canada over a lengthy period commencing with its establishment in 1935 and its conclusion on this question has been indicated on a number of occasions over the years, in particular in the Bank's annual reports, in evidence to the Royal Commission on Banking and Finance and to the House Committee on Trade, Finance and Economic Affairs and in speeches by the Governor. The Bank's conclusion, and that of the Royal Commission on Banking and Finance, has been that it is not possible to have a different monetary policy in different parts of an area which has a common currency, a unified banking system and a unified capital market. Problems of different rates of economic activity in different regions were considered to be dealt with more appropriately by specific measures.
In the study "Economic Development and the Atlantic Provinces" sponsored by the Atlantic Provinces Research Board, Professor A. K. Cairncross concluded that:
"if monetary measures are to be used in future to regulate activity throughout Canada, it will be desirable to supplement these measures by more selective instruments of control designed to procure a more even pressure of demand in the various parts of the country;
These instruments of control might include: (a) pressure on the commercial banks to exempt selected areas from the full force of credit rationing; (b) the freer provision of mortgage funds through the Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation or in other ways, in under-employed areas where there is an unsatisfied demand for new houses; (c) increased disbursement by the federal government either in public works or through higher grants-in-aid;
Monetary policy is not an appropriate means of dealing with the long-term problems involved in differential rates of growth in different parts of Canada."

A variety of fiscal and other economic measures, including those referred to by the Cairncross Study, have been instituted to deal on a selective basis with regional economic disparities.
2.	Answered by 1.


INDUSTRY MODERNIZATION LOANS TO COMPANY
Mr. Salisman: 1.	What is the name of the company referred to in the Auditor-General's report that received $457,000 in federal industry modernization loans?
2.	During which fiscal years, what were the respective amounts which the above company received in loans from the government?
3.	When was the Crown-owned foundry at Haley Station near Renfrew sold to the company for $165,000?
4.	Was this foundry sold under competitive tendering and, if not, for what reason?
5.	If so, what were the names of the other companies bidding and their respective amounts?


Yves Forest: I am
informed by the Department of Industry, Trade and Commerce and the Department of Supply and Services as follows:
1.	The name of the company referred to in the Auditor General's report is Haley Industries Limited, Haley, Ontario.
2.	In 1969 Haley Industries Limited was awarded a contract for capital assistance support for production equipment under the Industry Modernization for Defence Exports Program valued at $457,000. Under this program 50 per cent of the acquisition cost of the equipment is provided in the form of a grant and the remainder in the form of an advance repayable over a five year period. Total payments to date are as follows: FY 1968/69, $252,243.32; FY 1969/70, $127,865.73.
3.	The Crown-owned foundry at Haley Station near Renfrew was sold to Bartaco Industries Limited of Orillia, Ontario, in December 1967.
4.	The Foundry was not sold under competitive tender. As explained by the Minister of Industry on March 19, 1968, at page 7819 of Hansard, the Department of Defence Production solicited 28 companies in both Canada and the United States with the result that only one firm showed sufficient interest to make a definitive offer. To achieve its objective of finding a buyer who would continue the Foundry operation, the Department's inquiries to the prospective buyers were kept on a confidential basis to minimize the possibility
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of key customers losing confidence in the Foundry as a reliable supplier.
5.	See answer to Part 4.
5.	See answer to part 4.


CANADIAN GOVERNMENT DEPOSITS IN CHARTERED BANKS
Mr. Salisman: 1.	Does the Government of Canada leave large sums on deposit with the chartered banks in noninterest bearing accounts and, if so, under what authority or statute?
2.	If so, why did the Government of Canada receive no interest on government deposits totalling $100 million in the chartered banks as reported by the Auditor-General in his annual report?


Edgar John Benson: Section 16(2) of the Financial Administration Act as amended provides that the Receiver General shall establish, in the name of the Receiver General, accounts for the deposit of public moneys with such banks and fiscal agents as are designated by the Minister of Finance. Section 93(3) of the Bank Act provides that nothing in subsection (2) of the same section (which prohibits the banks from making specific charges for cashing cheques drawn on the Receiver General) shall be construed to prohibit any arrangement between the government of Canada and the banks concerning interest to be paid on any or all deposits of the government of Canada with the banks.
Under the authority of these statutes, balances are held in accounts with the chartered banks as well as in accounts with the Bank of Canada.
These balances vary considerably over time depending on daily revenue and expenditure patterns and on debt and cash management operations. In line with normal business practice, the government maintains on deposit with the chartered banks non-interest bearing current balances to meet daily cheque encashments. There are no undertakings to leave specified amounts on deposit. On the other hand, chartered banks have agreed that they should pay interest on an agreed basis on any amounts in excess of $100 millions held in these accounts. This arrangement permits the government to earn interest on investible funds without having to withdraw balances from the banks in order to buy treasury bills or other government of Canada securities or to sell such securities in order to replenish its bank balances. The movement of funds by the Government in such a way could have 29180-7372
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a disturbing influence on the money market and should be avoided.


RCMP-ROLE IN MARCH ON MCGILL
Mr. Robinson: 1.	How many RCMP were involved in police work during the recent march on McGill University?
2.	What was the cost to the federal government of the police service provided?
3.	Was any other service provided, apart from police services and, if so, what service and what was the cost to the federal government?
4.	Will the Government of Quebec make any financial contribution toward the cost of the RCMP services provided and relevant to the recent march on McGill University?


George James McIlraith: 1 to 4. It is not in the public interest to disclose this information.


'NATIONAL MUSEUM-PROVISION OF NEW BUILDING
Mr. Dinsdale: 1.	Has Dr. A. W. F. Banfield resigned as Director of the National Museum of Natural Sciences and, if so, what is the reason for his resignation?
2.	Has there been an increase in the budget of the National Museums for the fiscal year 1969-70 and, if so, what is the amount of the increase?
3.	When will the new Museum building announced by Prime Minister Diefenbaker in 1961, deferred by Prime Minister Pearson in 1965 in favour of the National Centre for the Performing Arts, be proceeded with?


Hon. Gerard Pelletier (Secretary of State):: Mr. Speaker, the answer is as follows: 1. Yes. Dr. A. W. F. Banfield resigned as Director of the National Museum of Natural Sciences, and stated in his letter of resignation, submitted to the Chairman of the Board of Trustees that his decision to resign was "purely personal and related to achievement of career goals".
2.	I am informed by the National Museums of Canada that the National Museums' budget was increased by $1,500 for the fiscal year 1969-70 over the preceding fiscal year 1968-69.
3.	No decision has been reached with respect to a new Museum building.


RCMP-EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS
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Mr. Robinson:: 1.	What is the minimum educational requirement to join the RCMP in Ontario and when was this standard last changed?

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2.	What is the minimum educational standard recommended by the Canadian Association of Police Chiefs?
3.	Is the Canadian Government considering the raising of the minimum standard of education for RCMP and to what level?
4.	Kow many members of the RCMP have, at the present time, the following education according to Ontario standards (a) grade 8 (b) grade 9 (e) grade 10 (d) grade 11 (e) grade 12 (f) grade 13 (g) Bachelor of Arts or equivalent degree (h) Post-Graduate Degrees (i) Post-Graduate training (j) other qualifications such as Ontario Police College, FBI courses and other?


George James McIlraith: 1.	An applicant is required to produce proof of having satisfactorily completed Grade XI in the province in which he completed his education. The Grade XI requirement has been in effect since August 17, 1963.
2.	This question should be directed to the Canadian Association of Chiefs of Police.
3.	The minimum standard of education and other basic qualifications are constantly under review by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and studied in conjunction with manpower requirements. At present the most acceptable minimum standard of education to ensure that the Royal Canadian Mounted Police is kept up to strength is Grade XI although 50 percent of those now engaging have in excess of this standard.
4.	Records maintained by the Royal Canadian Mounted Police do not equate educational qualifications according to Ontario standards. (Refer to Answer 1 above).


LAND SETTLEMENT-OVERCOMING OF PROBLEMS
Mr. Corbin: 1.	What government departments are involved in overcoming problems arising from mistakes in settlement, particularly the settlement of land since proved unfit for arable culture?
2.	What legislation and what programs have been initiated to correct this situation and on what date was this legislation initiated and affecting what areas?
3.	To what extent are individual provinces participating in these programs?
4.	What has been the cost to the federal government to this date for each individual program in each of the three Maritime Provinces (New Brunswick, Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia) ?


Yves Forest: 1. The
Department of Regional Economic Expansion.
2.	Prairie Farm Rehabilitation Act (1935), applicable to the three Prairie provinces; Agricultural Rehabilitation and Development Act (1962) and Agricultural and Rural Development Act (1966), applicable to all provinces. Federal-Provincial Rural Development Agreements (1965-70) made under the ARD Act with all the provinces of Canada; Fund for Rural Economic Development Act (1966), so far applied to certain areas in the provinces of Manitoba, Quebec, New Brunswick and Prince Edward Island.
3.	The provinces share in the planning of all programs and they share in the costs, to varying extents, of many of them.
4.	Cost to the federal government during the period April 1, 1962 to March 31, 1969 was:
First ARDA	Second ARDA	FREDAgreement	Agreement	AgreementsPrince Edward Island	$238,168	$ 981,447	Not applicableNova Scotia	540,904	4,478,574	Not applicableNew Brunswick	482,303	2,580,083	$422,831


PUBLIC SERVICE STAFF RELATIONS BOARD-CHAIRMAN'S NAME AND SALARY
Mr. Coates: What is the name and salary of the Chairman of the Public Service Staff Relations Board?


Hon. James Richardson (Minister of Supply and Services):: In so far as the Public Service Staff Relations Board is concerned: J. Finkel-man-$28,750 per annum.


PUBLIC RELATIONS STAFF, DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE
Mr. Robinson: 1.	Does the Department of Justice have a public relations staff and, if so, how many?
2.	What is the total cost of the public relations for the Department for each of the years 19601968 inclusive?
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John Napier Turner: In so far as the Department of Justice is concerned:
1.	No.
2.	Nil.


PUBLIC RELATIONS-INDUSTRY, TRADE AND COMMERCE
Mr. Robinson: 1.	Does the Department of Industry, Trade and Commerce have a public relations staff and, if so, how many?
2.	What is the total cost of the public relations for the Department for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?


Hon. Jean-Luc Pepin (Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce):: 1. The Publicity
Branch of the Department of Industry, Trade and Commerce is engaged in developing publicity, industrial promotion, and sales promotion activities around the world as part of the Department's program of industrial and trade development. The Canadian Government Travel Bureau carries out information and publicity services as part of the Departmental activity of travel promotion. Most of the work involved for the Department and the Travel Bureau is not of a character normally associated with the term "public relations". Staff figures of officials classified as Information Service Officers are listed in the reply to written question No. 2,018 made an Order for Return in the House of Commons on July 14, 1969.
2.	Expenditures of the Trade Publicity Branch and the Information and Promotion Branch of the two former Departments, as well as for the Canadian Government Travel Bureau, are listed in reply to written question No. 2,291.


CROWN CORPORATIONS-SALE OF SHARES TO PUBLIC
Mr. Robinson: Will the federal government consider selling shares in Crown Corporations to the public?


James Edgar Walker: The Government has no present intention to make available shares in Crown Corporations for purchase by the public.


MONTREAL-PORT ADVISORY BOARD
Mr. Fortin: 1.	Does the government intend to set up an advisory board for the Port of Montreal?
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2.	Does the government intend to appoint a representative of the City of Montreal as a member of the Board of Directors of the National Harbours Board?
3.	Has the government studied the Merineau Report which calls for the establishment of a harbours board for Canada but giving more independence to local authorities and, if so, at what stage is such study?


Donald Campbell Jamieson: Parts (1), (2) and (3) of Question No. 2,451 concern specific aspects of the administration of Canadian ports. The government has currently under review the matter of administrative systems of all harbours and will on completion of this review, consider such changes which are deemed to be desirable.


APPLICATION OF GOVERNMENT COMPANIES OPERATION ACT
Mr. Fortin: 1.	Does the Government Companies Operation Act presently apply to Polymer Corporation Limited and, if not, for what reason?
2.	Does the government intend to adopt the same approach toward (a) Eldorado Nuclear Limited (b) Eldorado Aviation Limited, and (c) Northern Transportation Company Limited?
3.	If not, for what reason?


Yves Forest: 1. No.
Polymer Corporation Limited is in keen competition with publicly owned companies throughout the world and it is essential for its continued success that it be free to act quickly in response to changing business conditions and have the same relative freedom of action as its competitors.
2 and 3. No consideration has been given to adopt the same approach at this time.


TOBACCO ADVERTISING-STUDY BY CRTC
Mr. Fortin: 1.	Has the Canadian Radio-Television Commission studied, is it studying, or will it study the possibility of banning tobacco advertising and, if not, for what reason?
2.	Does the government intend to issue directives in that respect?


Yves Forest: I am
informed by the Department of the Secretary of State and the Department of National Health and Welfare as follows:	1. The
Canadian Radio-Television Commission has studied the matter of tobacco advertising,

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since under the Broadcasting Act (Section 16(l)(b)(ii)) the Commission has the power to regulate "respecting the character of advertising and the amount of time that may be devoted to advertising".
In view of the fact that other government agencies are making studies of the effects of tobacco on health, the Commission has reached the conclusion that no action would be taken on this matter at the present time.
2.	No.


VANIER INSTITUTE OF THE FAMILY-FEDERAL SUPPORT
Mr. Dinsdale: 1.	Has the Government of Canada withdrawn financial support from the Vanier Institute of the Family?
2.	If so, what is the reason for this withdrawal of financial support?
3.	What financial contribution has been made each year by the federal government to the Vanier Institute since it was established?
4.	What contribution will be made in the fiscal year 1969-70?


Edgar John Benson: 1.	Not yet. The Federal Government will continue its financial support in the form of grants to match contributions from other sources received before April 1, 1970 by the Endowment Fund of the Institute. The Institute has been informed, however, that matching grants will not be made in respect of contributions received after March 31, 1970.
2.	It is considered that the work of the Vanier Institute of the Family now is sufficiently known and appreciated that Federal Government grants can be terminated at the end of this fiscal year, leaving to other sources any further necessary financial support of the continuing operations of the Institute. The termination of federal contributions to the Endowment Fund under these circumstances is part of the government's general program of restraint in expenditures.
and 4.	
Fiscal year	Financial contribution ($000)
1965-66	100
1966-67	2,167
1967-68	700
1968-69	425
1969-70	Nil
1970-71 Ir. Forest.]	450 (Estimated)


&quot;LA CORRESPONDANCE DE POLITIQUE ETRANGERE&quot;
Mr. Dumont: 1.	Is the periodical La Correspondence de Politique etrangere published by the Press Department of the Foreign Ministry of the German Democratic Republic considered as first, second or third class mail?
2.	What is its total number of copies distributed by the Post Office Department in Canada and what amount is paid annually for such delivery?


Hon. Eric W. Kierans (Postmaster General and Minister of Communications):: In so far
as the Post Office Department is concerned:
1.	The Canadian Post Office Department has no information respecting the publication in question, which is not registered as second class mail in Canada.
2.	Not known.


PRICES AND INCOMES COMMISSION
Mrs. Maclnnis: 1.	How much money has been appropriated for the Prices and Incomes Commission?
2.	What is the anticipated size of the staff of the Commission?
3.	How many members of the staff have been hired to date?
4.	Has there been any difficulty recruiting professional staff?
5.	If so, what are the reasons for this difficulty?


Hon. Ron  Bastard@Minister of Consumer and Corporate Affairs: I have been informed by the Chairman of the Prices and Incomes Commission as follows: 1. Prior to the establishment of the Commission, the Treasury Board approved an initial allotment of $500,000 for the Prices and Incomes Commission for the fiscal year 1969-70. A more precise determination of the financial requirements of the Prices and Incomes Commission for the fiscal year 1969-70 will be submitted to Parliament at the time of supplementary estimates.
2.	The Commission is now engaged in formulating its work program and necessary staff requirements in order to carry out the mandate that has been given to the Commission. It is, therefore, not possible at this time to provide an estimate of the staff requirements of the Commission.
3.	At the time that the question was tabled, there were five persons on the staff of the Commission. As of September 24, 1969, the Commission was composed of 25 persons including the four Commissioners.
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4 and 5. Yes. There is a severe shortage of highly qualified staff everywhere, and all agencies both public and private have been encountering recruiting problems.


TREASURY BOARD INFORMATION SERVICE
Mr. Robinson: 1.	Does the Treasury Board provide an information service and, if so, what was the cost for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
2.	How many publications and/or periodicals and/or information sheets and/or public releases were provided by the Department for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive and what was the cost for each publication for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
3.	How many copies of each publication are provided and to whom are they distributed and how is the distribution effected?


Hon. C. M. Drury (President of the Treasury Board):: 1. The answer to Part 1 has already been provided by the Treasury Board in reply to Question Number 2,175 (Hansard, June 4, 1969, page 9722).
2.	(a) Publications: nil; (b) Periodicals: nil; (c) Information Sheets: nil; (d) Press Releases:
Year	Number	Estimated <1960-64	nil	$	1965	4	331.001966	15	499.001967	12	227.001968	38	1,567.00
3. The number of copies of each press release averages 850. Distribution is to the Parliamentary Press Gallery (by hand) and to Heads of Agencies and Deputy Ministers and their Directors of Personnel (by mail).


PUBLIC BUILDINGS-CUTBACK IN CONSTRUCTION
Mr. Dinsdale: 1.	Has there been any cutback in the planned construction of federal public buildings as originally announced for the 1969-70 fiscal year?
2.	If so (a) how many buildings are involved
(b)	in what cities were they to have been built
(c)	what is the total sum of money saved by the cutbacks in each province?


Yves Forest: 1. No.
2.	Not applicable.
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INDIAN AFFAIRS AND NORTHERN DEVELOPMENT INFORMATION SERVICE
Mr. Robinson: 1.	Does the Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development provide an information service and, if so, what was the cost for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
2.	How many publications and/or periodicals and/or information sheets and/or public releases were provided by the Department for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive and what was the cost for each publication for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
3 How many copies of each publication are provided and to whom are they distributed and how is the distribution effected?


Hon. Jean Chretien (Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development):: 1.
1960-66.
2.	The department has no central record of all publications for the period mentioned. An inventory of publications is being prepared but will not be ready for several months.
However, available figures show that the number of publications has increased from 193 in 1966-67 to 235 in 1967-68 to 311 in 1968-69, and 182 publications have been published since the beginning of 1969-70, or by extrapolation, to a total of approximately 412 for the full year. Between 1966-67 and 196970, the circulation of all departmental scientific reports and of publications related to industrial development in the North has increased by 500 per cent, National Parks by 200 per cent and all others by 30 per cent.
3.	To provide a reply to this question would take several months and as the Department has no central record for the period in question, the accuracy of the reply would be questionable.
As mentioned in the reply to part 2, an inventory is being prepared which will take several months to finalize.


NATIONAL ARTS CENTRE-PUBLIC RELATIONS AND ADVERTISING
Mr. Harding: 1.	What is the public relations and/or advertising budget for the National Arts Centre for the fiscal year 1969-70?
2.	Up to June 10, 1969, what have been the actual public relations expenditures for the National Arts Centre?


Gérard Pelletier: I am informed by the National Arts Centre as follows: 1. $589,576.
2.	The Centre's accounting methods do not permit a reckoning of expenditures to June

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10 but expenditures to June 30 were approximately $406,000.


NATIONAL DEFENCE INFORMATION SERVICE
Mr. Robinson: 1.	Does the Department of National Defence provide an information service and, if so, what was the cost for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
2.	How many publications and/or periodicals and/or information sheets and/or public releases were provided by the Department for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive and what was the cost for each publication for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
3.	How many copies of each publication are provided and to whom are they distributed and how is the distribution effected?
The Sentinel
La Sentinelle	$ 35,118.13
Canadian Forces'
Bulletin	

Press releases are prepared by the information offices in Ottawa and in the field as a part of their information duties. Records are
The Sentinel	96,000
La Sentinelle	14,000
Published ten times a year, these magazines are distributed to the Canadian Forces, on the basis of one for every five persons serving in the Regular Forces, one for every ten in the Reserve Forces, and one for every 20 in the
Canadian Forces'
Bulletin-English French
Variation in number published is due to the production, from time to time, of special editions which are issued to each member of the Canadian Forces (these editions contain detailed information on major changes in service conditions & terms of service). Normally one copy is distributed to each Commander, and one copy for each five persons serving in the rank of Sergeant and above.
Press Releases 2423	2561	2649	3433
These are distributed nationally, regionally to news media depending on the subject.


Hon. Leo Cadieux (Minister of National Defence):: 1. See Hansard dated July 23, 1969, pages 11518-9.
2. Prior to 1964, the Royal Canadian Navy published The Crowsnest, and the Royal Canadian Air Force, Roundel. All three services issued press releases. Costs prior to 196566 were not maintained in a manner which would permit this data to be readily identified. Since 1964, the Canadian Forces information publications consist of The Sentinel, La Sentinelle and, since 1966, the Canadian Forces' Bulletin, as well as press releases. Publication costs:
1966-67	1967-68	1968-69$117,867.93	$128,581.44	$125,876.53$ 14,000.00	$ 10,000.00	$ 10,000.00
not kept in a manner which permits the cost of producing press releases to be isolated.
1966	1967	1968480,000	480,000	480,00070,000	70,000	70,000
Cadet Services. Copies are also distributed to the military associations and to Canadian news media. In addition, there are over 7,000 paid subscriptions through the Queen's Printer.
32,500	110,000	316,0007,500	21,300	37,100


DEPARTMENT OF FINANCE-COST OF PUBLIC RELATIONS
Mr. Robinson: 1.	Does the Department of Finance have a public relations staff and, if so, how many?
2.	What was the total cost of public relations for the Department for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?


Edgar John Benson: 1. The Department of Finance does not have a public relations staff as such. Relations with news media and the public are handled by
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the Information Office, and by other departmental officials.
2. The costs attributable solely to public relations cannot be identified, but see the answer to question No. 2,572.


RESEARCH ECONOMISTS, PRICES AND INCOMES COMMISSION
Mrs. Maclnnis: 1.	What are the names of the research economists who have accepted positions with the Prices and Incomes Commission and on what dates did they indicate their acceptance?
2 How many economists in academic institutions have been offered positions on the staff of the Prices and Incomes Commission?


Hon. Ron Basford (Minister of Consumer and Corporate Affairs):: I have been informed by the Chairman of the Prices and Incomes Commission as follows: 1. The names of the research economists who have accepted positions with the Prices and Incomes Commission and the dates they indicated their acceptance are as follows:
Mr. D. Brazier,	May 23, 1969;
Mr. H. Bubeck,	July 30, 1969;
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Mr. J. Cragg, June 15, 1969;
Mr. W. Dymond, July 11, 1969;
Mr. J. Hague, June 25, 1969;
Mr. T. Houston, August 6, 1969;
Mr. L. Reed, June 22, 1969.
2. The Commission does not maintain a record of preliminary approaches to economists in academic institutions.


FOREST FIRES IN CANADA
Mr. Robinson: 1.	How many forest fires were reported in Canada in each of the years 1960-63 inclusive?
2.	How many acres of forest were destroyed by fire in each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
3.	What was the estimated value of the timber lost as a result of forest fires in each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
4.	What percentage of the forest fires in terms of (a) acreage (b) timber value, were the result of (i) natural causes (ii) careless hunters and fishermen (iii) careless campers and tourists (iv) other?


Mr. E. F. Whelan (Parliamentary Secrelary to Minister of Fisheries and Forestry):: 1960	1961	1962	1963	1964	1965	1966	1967	19681.	Number of Fires	
8,881	8,655	6,285	7,670	6,944	7,238	7,468	8,650	6,933
(Estimated)
2.	Acreage burned	 1,616,344	9,313,479	863,495	470,001	2,993,290	521,148	1,144,439	2,211,954	2,052,000
(Estimated)
3.	Estimated Value	
10,409,625	69,125,608	6,977,748	4,265,926	6,522,947	8,314,546	3,970,283	18,191,893 Not avafiable4.	(a) (i) Natural causes	
56.5	38.5	51.2	79.7	57.5	56 5	73 5
(ii) and (iii) Careless hunters, fishermen, campers and tourists (records not kept
separately)	
10.1	22.9	16.8	6.5	13.0	1.2	4.2(iv) Others	
33.4	38.6	32.0	13.8	29.5	42.3	22.3
Note: Records for I960 and 1968 are not available. (b) Data not available in this form.
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DEPARTMENT OE FINANCE-INFORMATION SERVICE
Mr. Robinson: 1.	Does the Department of Finance provide an information service and, if so, what was the cost for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
2.	How many publications and/or periodicals and/or information sheets and/or public releases were provided by the Department for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive and what was the cost for each publication for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
3.	How many copies of each publication are provided and to whom are they distributed and how is the distribution effected?
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Edgar John Benson: 1.	Yes. An information office was established in 1966. Prior to 1966 information duties were performed by officers of the Department as part of their other duties, and the costs attributable solely to information duties before 1966 cannot be identified. The costs since then, including salaries, are: fiscal year 1966-67, $53,714; 1967-68, $96,244; 1968-69, $45,638.
2.	Accurate information is not available with respect to fiscal years 1960-61 to 1965-66 inclusive. Numbers and total costs since then are as follows. Costs attributable to individual publication cannot be identified.
Publications and/or Information Sheets Periodicals
Public (Press) Releases
1966-67	1967-68	1968-69No.	Cost	No.	Cost	No.	Cost9	$30,930	13	$74,950	8	$23,474NIL	NIL	NIL118	$ 7,538	176	$ 5,001	175	$ 4,8003.	During the period 1966-67 to 1968-69: distribution of information relating to budgets has averaged 2,500 copies per year; distribution of material relating to government guaranteed loans has averaged 335,000 copies per year of brochures, 119,000 copies per year of guidelines, 4,700 copies per year of annual reports and, in 1967-68 only, 6,500 copies of the consolidation of one of the acts; distribution of public (press) releases has ranged from 50 to 3,000 copies depending on the subject matter, with an average distribution of 700 copies.
Information relating to budgets, guaranteed loans administration publications, and public (press) releases are distributed to the news media, to Members of Parliament and Senators, to interested libraries and embassies, and to interested officials and individuals in the fields of government, banking, industry, commerce and educaiton. Copies of brochures, guidelines or acts relating to government guaranteed loans are sent in bulk to those agencies empowered to make loans1 under the relevant acts and, through those agencies, are distributed to prospective borrowers.
Distribution is mainly by mail but departmental messengers are used in the case of some local recipients.


ROBERTS BANK-PROTECTION OF DELTA RESIDENTS FROM POLLUTION
Mr. Goode: What steps will be taken by the railways, Kaiser Steel Corporation and National Harbours Board to
protect the residents of the Municipality of Delta from the following sources of pollution stemming from the development of Roberts Bank Superport (a) railway cars carrying coal at high speeds (b) oil slicks and other hazards from ocean vessels (c) spillage and dust from loading operations?


Donald Campbell Jamieson: In so far as the Minister of Transport is concerned:
The Canadian Transport Commission advises as follows: Regarding pollution arising from railway car operations, no problem of this nature is foreseen at this time due to the speed at which coal trains will operate and the normal load level of cars and location of the loading area.
The National Harbours Board advises as follows: Pollution will be controlled by Section 4 of the Board's By-Law A-l which states:
"4. (1) No person shall cause or do or omit to do anything which may cause in any manner (a) an encumbrance of the water or shore of the harbour; or (b) an obstruction or danger to navigation in the harbour.
(2) Nothing shall be thrown, drained or discharged in the water, allowed to come in contact with the water, or deposited anywhere within the limits of the harbour, which may in any manner (a) damage vessels or property; or (b) cause any nuisance or endanger life or health; Provided that ballast or rubbish may be placed, left

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or disposed of at such places in the harbour as may be assigned by the Board.
(3) Every encumbrance, obstruction, nuisance, or possible cause of danger or damage, in contravention of the provisions of this section, may be removed by the Board at the risk and expense of the person who so contravenes such provisions."


FEDERAL GOVERNMENT DIRECT AND GUARANTEED DEBT
Mr. Mather: 1.	What was the total of the federal government's outstanding direct and guaranteed debt at the end of May 1967, May 1968, and May 19697
2.	What was the cost in each of those years of interest and other public debt charges?
3.	If statistics are available indicating the outstanding direct and guaranteed debt of the provinces and the annual cost thereof, what are the totals for the same periods?


Edgar John Benson: 1.	As published in Bank of Canada Statistical Summary:
1967	$21,286	million1968	21,763	million1969	23,171	million2.	As determined from the government's regular monthly statement of financial operations:1967	$ 1,119 million1968	1,339	million1969	1,507	million3.	Gross amount of provincial direct and guaranteed bonds outstanding as at December 31 is published in the Supplement of the Bank of Canada statistical summary. These amounts were as follows:as at	December	31,	1966:	$13,410	millionas at	December	31,	1967:	$15,484	million
as at December 31, 1968: not yet available
The corresponding figures for May 1967, 1968 and 1969 are not published. The annual costs of the direct and guaranteed debt of the provinces are not available.


INFORMATION SERVICE-DEPARTMENT OF FISHERIES
Mr. Robinson: 1.	Does the Department of Fisheries provide an information service and, if so, what was the cost for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
2.	How many publications and/or periodicals and/or information sheets and/or public releases were provided by the Department for each of the

years 1960-68 inclusive, and what was the cost of each publication for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
3.	How many copies of each publication are provided and to whom are they distributed and how is the distribution effected?


Eugene Whelan: 1. Yes. Expenditures are as follows: 1960-61, $188,659; 1961-62, $216,412; 1962-63, $240,703; 196364, $222,667; 1964-65, $253,738; 1965-66, $334,029; 1966-67, $421,469; 1967-68, $531,037. These figures represent total costs for supplies, services and salaries for both headquarters and regional establishments.
2. Title of Publication	Expenditures
1966-67 1967-68
Fisheries of Canada and La
Peche (12 issues) Canadian Fish Culturist (2 issues)
Canadian Fisheries Reports (2 issues)
Annual Report Press Releases Consumer Publications Information Sheets

6.000	3,500
8.000	4,500
7.000	5,500
2.000	2,100
14.000	17,000
12.000	18,000
Expenditures for the years 1960-65 are not available.
3.	Fisheries of Canada, 6,200 English, 2,300 French copies; Canadian Fish Culturist, 3,500 copies; Canadian Fisheries Reports, 2,000 copies.
Distribution of the above publications is made by mail. They are sent to fisheries research institutions, universities, libraries, officials of fish and game departments, editors and representatives of trade organizations, Canadian embassies and trade commissioners, fishery training institutions, conservation magazines, fishermen, processors, industrial concerns, Members of Parliament and honourable Senators.
Press releases are distributed by hand and by mail to Canadian Press and to all Canadian daily and weekly newspapers, radio and television outlets, fishery magazines, Members of Parliament and other interested parties.


PROVISION OF INCENTIVES TO REHABILITATE PEOPLE ON WELFARE
Mr. Robinson: Will the federal government consider the feasibility of providing incentives to rehabilitate people from the welfare rolls of municipalities?
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Hon. John C. Munro (Minister of National Health and Welfare):: The federal government does provide financial incentives, by way of cost-sharing, to the provinces for rehabilitation programs, for example, work activity projects under the Canada Assistance Plan. In addition, through the on-going consultative services of the Department of National Health and Welfare and through federal-provincial working groups, increased attention is being given to the rehabilitative aspects of welfare services.


REPRESENTATIONS CONCERNING THE RECOGNITION OF COMMUNIST CHINA
Mr. Laprise: 1.	Has the Canadian Government received letters, telegrams or resolutions from Canadians or from Canadian associations objecting to the recognition of Communist China?
2.	If so, how many has the Government received?
3.	Has the Government received Notes or indications from foreign governments opposing Canada's recognition of Communist China?


Hon. Mifchell Sharp (Secretary of Slate for External Affairs):: 1. Yes, the Canadian government has received letters and telegrams from Canadian citizens and from Canadian associations objecting to our proposal to recognize the Government of the People's Republic of China. The Canadian Government has also received letters from Canadian citizens and associations supporting the proposed recognition of the Government of the People's Republic of China.
2.	Since May 29, 1968 when the Prime Minister made his initial statement concerning the intention of the Canadian Government to enter into negotiations toward recognition with the Government of the People's Republic of China, the Office of the Prime Minister and the Department of External Affairs have received 183 letters objecting to this proposal.
3.	Yes. Two protest notes have been received from the Embassy of The Republic of China. The U.S. State Department press officer, Robert McCloskey, commenting on the Canadian proposal to recognize the Government of the People's Republic of China said on February 11, 1969, "We are very much concerned over the possible implications of such moves for the position of the Government of the Republic of Nationalist China, which is a responsible and co-operative member of the international community and with
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which the Government of Canada maintains diplomatic relations". A small number of other governments have indicated confidentially that they have certain reservations about the decision of the Canadian Government to recognize the Government of the People's Republic of China. Several governments have similarly indicated that they welcome the Canadian initiative.


SIR GEORGE WILLIAMS UNIVERSITY RIOT
Mr. Hales: 1.	With regard to the riot at Sir George Williams University, how many people were arrested?
2.	What was their Country of origin?
3.	How many were in possession of Visas and what status did each one who was from another Country have?
4.	What fines were levied?
5.	How many were deported as a result of this riot, and to what Countries were they deported?
6.	How many of those arrested were receiving student loans, grants, or scholarships from the Canadian Government?
7.	Were any of those involved receiving grants from the Canada Council and, if so, how many and what was the total amount of the Canada Council grants?


Yves Forest: I am
informed by the departments of Manpower and Immigration and External Affairs and the Canada Council as follows: 1. Ninety-seven.
2.	Forty-nine were Canadian citizens. The breakdown by citizenship of the remaining 48 people is as follows: Trinidad, 10; Jamaica, 4; Guyana, 2; Barbados, 2; Bahamas, 1; Dominica, 1; Haiti, 1; Other West Indies, 10; Belgium, 1; Algeria, 1; Israel, 1; New Zealand, 1; U.S.A., 5; Portugal, 1; Morocco, 1; France, I; Italy, 1; Great Britain, 2; Germany, 2.
3.	The status of the aliens is as follows: Landed Immigrants, 26; Applicants for Landing, 2; Students, 18; No status, 2.
4.	Only one person has so far been fined under the Immigration Act in connection with this matter. Information on other fines which may have been levied under the Criminal Code or Juvenile Delinquency Act would have to be obtained from the courts in Montreal.
5.	Until at least such time as the courts have dealt conclusively with the charges against the individuals awaiting trial in this matter, the Department of Manpower and

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Immigration has no basis for instituting deportation proceedings against any of the aliens.
6.	One.
7.	No.


ACRES INTERTEL LTD.-EMPLOYMENT AS CONSULTANT
Mr. Macquarrie: 1 Has Acres Intertel Ltd. at any time acted as a consultant to the Department of Communications in the preparation of reports for the Department?
2.	If so, at what cost to the Government of Canada?
3.	Is it the intention of the Government to Table these reports?


Eric William Kierans: 1. Yes.
2.	The cost to the Department of Communications for services provided by Acres Intertel Ltd. is as follows:
Fiscal year 1968-1969, $49,187.86; 1969-1970, {to date) $31,000.00 (committed).
3.	Acres Intertel Ltd. has been providing professional consultants to assist the Department of Communications in interference studies related to radio spectrum utilization. These professional consultants also provide specialized advice to Departmental personnel in their day-to-day operations. This assistance and advice is not normally incorporated in reports for publication, however, a special report on Communications in the Canadian North, being prepared with their assistance, will be tabled at a conference on Telecommunications and the North, scheduled by the department for mid-1970.


&quot;PUT YOUR NAME IN SPACE&quot;-PAYMENTS TO CONTEST JUDGES
Mr. Macquarrie: 1.	How much is to be paid to (a) Marshall McLuhan (b) Gratien Gelinas (c) Leonard Cohen, for their services as judges in the "Put Your Name in Space" contest?
2.	What is the cost of advertising this contest?
3.	For what reason is this contest being sponsored by the Minister of Communications rather than by Telesat Canada?


Eric William Kierans: 1. $200 including expenses.
2. Direct advertising costs were $750. Total costs including printing, promotion, and sorting of entries was $12,000.

3.	At the time the contest was initiated, Telesat Canada did not exist.


FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS-INVESTIGATION OF FOREIGN TAKEOVERS
Mr. Saltsman: 1.	What are the terms of reference of the internal group in the Department of Finance reviewing and investigating the question of foreign takeovers of financial institutions in Canada as stated by the Minister of Finance in Parliament on July 2, 1969?
2.	Who are the individuals in the Department of Finance investigating this area?
3.	When is it expected that this review will be completed?
4.	Are representations being solicited on the subject from the Canadian public?
5.	If so, when is the deadline for submitting such representations?


Edgar John Benson: 1.	Officials have been asked to review the significance for the national interest of foreign takeovers of firms in the securities industry, keeping in mind the following considerations: (i) the broad interest of the Canadian public including the responsiveness of the securities industry to official Canadian economic and financial policies, and the contribution of firms in this industry to the efficient channelling of savings into the most productive Canadian investments; (ii) The interest of Canadians who seek to raise investment funds, including their need for efficient and competitive financial institutions through which to raise the required funds at the most economical cost; (iii) The interest of Canadian investors seeking profitable and appropriate investment of their funds; (iv) The interest of the Canadian firms in the securities industry in the growth of international financial business which is a reflection of the growth in international economic relations.
2.	Officials in the Department of Finance with responsibilities in the areas of financial institutions and capital markets in consultation with officials of other interested Departments and the Bank of Canada.
3,	4 and 5. Arrangements have not been made for formal representations on the subject by the Canadian public. The Minister of Finance would welcome receiving the views of interested groups and individuals. A study of foreign ownership and control of member firms is being carried out within the securities industry itself. The government wishes to take into account the views of interested groups and hopes to be in a position to make
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a statement on the subject of the review within the next few months.


NATIONAL ARTS CENTRE-AVAILABILITY OF FACILITIES
Mr. Nysirom: 1.	What facilities or services of the National Arts Centre are only available to "important" or "very important persons"?
2.	What steps have been taken to insure the participation in the benefits of the National Arts Centre by all cultural and income groups in Canada?
3.	Does the National Arts Centre have any regulations about the dress or appearance of its patrons?


Gérard Pelletier: 1. There are no facilities or services of the National Arts Centre which are restricted to important or very important persons.
2.	Under the National Arts Centre Act in object of the corporation is to develop the performing arts in the National Capital region and to assist the Canada Council in the development of the performing arts elsewhere in Canada. The Centre has an obligation to encourage talent and provide entertainment for all income groups through an artistic policy which provides quality performances on every level from classical to popular. In keeping with this, ticket prices for respective performances are kept as low as possible. The Centre conducts week day public tours and weekend popular events on adjoining terraces during the summer months which are free to the general public. The programming to date reflects as many aspects of Canadian culture as possible.
3.	No.



PUBLICATION GRANTED SECOND CLASS MAILING PRIVILEGES

Mr. Orlikow: 1.	What is the name of the publication which has been granted second class mailing privileges under registration number 1965?
2.	Who publishes the periodical in question?
3.	What is the periodicity of the publication?
4.	Who are the subscribers?
5.	Is it sold to the public on newsstands or otherwise?
6.	What is (a) the sale price of individual copies (b) the subscription rate?
7.	On whose application was the second class privilege granted?
8.	What was the basis of the decision to grant second class privileges in this case?
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Eric William Kierans: In so far
as- the Post Office Department is concerned: 1. Up to the Neck.
2.	Up to the Neck, 3553 St. Urbain, Montreal 130, P.Q.
3.	12 issues per year.
4.	This information is not known to the Post Office Department.
5.	This information is not known to the Post Office Department.
6.	(a) This information is not known to the Post Office Department, (b) This information is not known to the Post Office Department.
7.	Mrs. M. Destounis.
8.	This publication met the criteria outlined in the regulations respecting second class mail made pursuant to Section 12 of the Post Office Act as amended by Chapter 5, of the Statutes of Canada 1968.



LONG HARBOUR, NFLD.-POLLUTION BY ELECTRIC REDUCTION PLANT

Mrs. Maclnnis: 1.	Following the answer by the Department of Fisheries and Forestry to part (6) Question No. 2,470, by what authority and under what regulations was this decision made?
2.	If it is found that the Electric Reduction Company of Canada is responsible for paying the cost of reclaiming Long Harbour, Newfoundland for fishing, who is responsible for paying compensation to the fishermen for income lost while the bay was polluted?
3.	How much compensation has been paid so far and in what form?
4.	What is the total estimated cost to the federal government of such compensation?


Eugene Whelan: 1.	The decision was made by the Electric Reduction Company of Canada Limited at the request of the Department of Fisheries and Forestry.
2.	The matter is now before the court in Newfoundland.
3.	This information would have to be secured from the company.
4.	Nil.



POSSIBLE CONTAMINATION OF THE EARTH BY RETURNING SPACE VEHICLES

Mrs. Maclnnis: 1.	Is any Department or Branch of the Canadian Government making studies of the possibilities of contamination of the earth by returning space vehicles?

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2 Is the government aware of any such studies being made under the auspices of the United Nations?
3.	What procedures, if any, have been incorporated for decontamination of returning space vehicles to protect the human and natural resources of the earth before further vehicles are sent into space?


Mitchell William Sharp: 1. No.
2.	No. However, the U.N. Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space has taken note of such studies made by the Committee on Space Research (COSPAR) of the International Council of Scientific Unions (ICSU).
3.	The United States National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) has recently passed to the Canadian Embassy in Washington, as a matter of routine, a copy of NASA Press Release No. 69-83K of July 6 1969 which contains information on decontamination procedures for the return of Apolo 11 (pages 64-67 and 181-190). The United States Embassy in Ottawa has indicated it would be pleased to provide copies of these or other pages of special interest from the above release upon request.



REVIEW OF BASIC WAR PENSION RATES

Mr. Mather: Is consideration being given to making a review of the basic war pension rates every two years, as is being done in the United Kingdom, for the purpose of compensating recipients for price increases?


Hon. Jean-Eudes Dube (Minister of Veterans Affairs):: Yes, consideration is being given to this and to various other methods.



DOT FLIGHTS FROM OTTAWA, JULY 6 AND 7

Mr. McGrath: 1.	How many Department of Transport flights left Ottawa on July 6 and July 7, and at what times did these flights leave?
2.	What aircraft were used for each of these flights?
3.	What were the names of the passengers on board each of these flights?
4.	What were the destinations of each of these flights?
5.	What was the purpose of each of these flights?


Donald Campbell Jamieson: Fourteen Department of Transport
flights left Ottawa July 6 and July 7. These were training, ministerial and operational

flights. The following aircraft were utilized: July 6-CF-GXK at 9:10 p.m.; CF-DOL at 10:00 a.m.
July 7-CF-CGE	at	6:35	a.m.;	CF-DTA	at9:05 a.m.;	CF-DTF	at	8:10	a.m.;	CF-CGZ	at8:40 a.m.;	CF-CGY	at	9:10	a.m.;	CF-CAQ	at4:45 p.m.;	CF-CAY	at	1:55	p.m.



CORRESPONDENCE FROM A. G. HEAKES

Mr. Rondeau: 1.	Did the Prime Minister received letters dated June 3, 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15 and 16 from Mr. A. G. Heakes?
2.	Did these letters enclose letters to the Solicitor General dated June 4, from the Correspondence Secretary to the Prime Minister dated June 5 and June 9?
3.	Have these letters been acknowledged and, if not, for what reason?
4.	Did the Prime Minister or the Prime Minister's Parliamentary Secretary receive any protests following the tabling of an answer to Question No. 1,930?
5 Did these protests have any connection with the announcement on June 5 that there had been a change in the Prime Minister's Correspondence Secretary?
6.	(a) Did the Minister of Manpower and Immigration receive a letter dated June 5 from Mr. Heakes (b) has it been acknowledged (c) has the Minister of Manpower and Immigration or the Office of the Minister of Manpower and Immigration directly acknowledged any letter from Mr. Heakes (d) was a communication from the Montreal Office of the Department of Manpower and Immigration sent by registered mail on May 27 to Mr. Heakes and the reply to him by the Minister of Manpower and Immigration as the result of the intervention of the Prime Minister and, if so, was it signed and, if not, for what reasons?
7.	Has the Minister of Communications received correspondence from Mr. Heakes, what is the nature of this correspondence, has any letter from Mr. Heakes to the Minister of Communications in the current calendar year been acknowledged and, if not, for what reason?
8.	Did the Solicitor General receive a letter of June 4 from Mr. Heakes, has it been acknowledged and, if not, for what reason?
9.	Did the Prime Minister receive a telegram on June 15 from Mr. Heakes, has it been acknowledged and, if not, for what reason?
10.	Have the Prime Minister, the Solicitor General, the Minister of Manpower and Immigration and the Minister of Communications received any letter from Mr. Heakes since June 16, have they been acknowledged and, if not, for what reason?


James Edgar Walker: 1. June 3, yes. June 7, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15 and 16, no.
2.	No.
3.	No.
4.	No.
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5.	Not applicable.
6.	(a) No; (b) Not applicable; (c) No; (d) Yes; it is not known whether or not it was signed.
7.	Yes; request for an investigation of the actions of various persons in respect of Mr. Heakes' proceedings in bankruptcy; no.
8.	There is no record on file of a letter to the Solicitor General from Mr. Heakes dated June 4, however, a copy of an undated letter from Mr. Heakes to the Solicitor General was received at that time and is probably the letter referred to; the foregoing letter was not acknowledged.
9.	Yes; no.
10.	Yes; some of this correspondence has been acknowledged by the Office of the Prime Minister and by the Office of the Solicitor General. The Ministers mentioned above have been the recipients of a constant flow of correspondence from Mr. Heakes in recent months, often of a repetitious nature and often at a rate of several letters a day. This correspondence refers mainly to the problems experienced by Mr. Heakes as a result of a bankruptcy in which he was involved several years ago but contains as well allegations by him of conspiracy and libel, of mail tampering and of police harassment. It has been pointed out to Mr. Heakes that his problems are essentially within the jurisdiction of the provincial government. For these reasons much of the correspondence received has been unanswered as it would appear to serve no useful purpose to continue to do so.



SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH AND DEVELOPMENT-PERCENTAGE OF GROSS NATIONAL PRODUCT ALLOCATED THERETO

Mr. Orlikow: 1.	Has the Government of Canada or the President of the Treasury Board set a goal regarding the percentage amount of the Canadian Gross National Product that should he allocated annually toward scientific research and development expenditures as stated by the Science Council of Canada in their Third Annual Report?
2.	If so, what is that percentage and what criteria was used in its determination?
3.	Has any target year date been set regarding the above percentage allocation of research and development expenditures?


Charles Mills (Bud) Drury: 1. No.
2.	Not applicable.
3.	Not applicable.
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SCIENCE COUNCIL-ANALYSIS OF THIRD ANNUAL REPORT

Mr. Orlikow: 1.	Which government agency or department is analyzing the recommendations of the Third Annual Report of the Science Council of Canada?
2.	When is it anticipated that the above analysis on the Science Council's recommendations will be made public?


James Edgar Walker: 1 and 2. The Third
Annual Report of the Science Council of Canada will be reviewed by the Privy Council Office. Government statements which arise will be announced at the appropriate time after consideration of the opinions of other interested groups.



CANADIAN FILM DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION-LOANS FOR PRODUCTIONS

Mr. McCleave: 1.	How many film productions have the Canadian Film Development Corporation lent money to or invested money in and what are such productions and the amounts involved in each case?
2.	What proposals for film productions have been turned down by the Corporation, and what was the amount involved in each case?
3.	What criteria does the Corporation use to establish significant Canadian creative content?
4.	Does the Corporation require that films be mainly based In Canadian settings?
5.	Does the Corporation require that films be restricted to plots dealing with Canadian themes?


Gérard Pelletier: I am informed by the Canadian Film Development Corporation as follows: 1. Applications for assistance for loans and investments reach the Corporation by way of requests for financing in: (a) complete feature film productions; (b) versions and other post-production assistance; (c) pre-production (scripts and related expenses).
As of July 9, 1969, the Corporation had lent money to or invested money in three feature film productions: "The Act of the Heart", "The Blast" ("Explosion"), and "La Chambre Blanche".
Due to the confidential nature of negotiations between the applicants, distributors, and other financing parties, the Corporation does not disclose financial details of the films or projects in which it is involved.
2. Eleven proposals for film productions have been refused. The Corporation does not disclose financial details of its negotiations with producers.

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3.	The purpose of the Canadian Film Development Corporation is to foster and promote the development of a feature film industry-in Canada. In the view of the Corporation, this means developing film writers, directors, directors of photography, and producers, all of whom make major creative contributions to feature film production. The corporation does not, however, exclude from consideration, especially during the early stages of the development of the feature film industry in Canada, film productions in which there is an important non-Canadian contribution provided there is the opportunity for Canadians to participate along with non-Canadians.
4.	No.
5.	No.
AIR CANADA STEWARDESSES Question No. 2,629


Mr. Coates:: 1.	How many stewardesses have been hired by Air Canada since January 1, 1965?
2.	Were all the stewardesses hired bilingual and, if not, what proportion were bilingual?
3.	How many of those hired were resident in the Province of Quebec, how many from the remaining nine provinces and how many were non-Canadians?


Donald Campbell Jamieson: The Management of Air Canada advises as follows: 1. 2,352.
2.	No; 1300, or 55 per cent were bilingual.
3.	Resident in Province of Quebec, 990, 43 per cent; Resident in other 9 provinces, 1147, 49 per cent; Non-Canadians, 215, 8 per cent.



PUBLIC SERVICE-SALARIES OVER $12,000

Mr. Coates: How many individuals in the Public Service of Canada receive a salary of $12,000 annually or more?


Yves Forest: 12,735.



MINISTERS' OFFICES-INCREASES IN STAFFS

Mr. Coates: What has been the increase in the personnel staffs in the offices of the Prime Minister and of his Cabinet Ministers since April 1, 1969, and in each instance, what has been the increase in the cost of operation of the offices of the Prime Minister and of his Cabinet Ministers?


Yves Forest: The Right Honourable the Prime Minister
The Hon. the Minister of Communications and Postmaster General The Hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Forestry
The Hon. the Minister of Justice The Hon. the Minister of Transport The Hon. the Minister without Portfolio (Humbolt-Saskatchewan)
The Hon. the Minister without Portfolio and Leader of the Government in the Senate
(a)		(b)	
		$	
4	31,745	per	annum1	5,727	per	annum1	6,202	per	annum1	3,988	per	annum3	17,918	per	annum1	6,182	per	annum2	20,211	per	annum
AH other ministers have submitted nil returns.



CABINET MINISTERS' OFFICES-RENOVATION AND FURNISHING

Mr. Coates: 1.	How many offices of Cabinet Ministers, either in the Parliament Buildings or in their departmental offices have undergone renovations and received new furnishings since April 1, 1969?
2.	What are the names of the Cabinet Ministers who have had new furnishings and renovations carried out to their offices and what was the cost in each instance?


Yves Forest: 1 and
2.	Parliament Buildings
Name	Amount
The Hon. Otto E. Lang	$	80The Hon.	Ron. Basford	413
Departmental Offices
The Hon. Eric W. Kierans	$ 6,600
The Hon.	Allan J. MacEachen	1,280The Hon.	John N. Turner	1,062The Hon.	E. J. Benson	1,208The Hon.	Bryce Mackasey	109
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NATIONAL DEBT, MARCH, 1967, 1968, 1969

Mr. Mather: 1.	What was the total of the National Debt at March 1967, 1968 and 1969?
2.	What was the total of the annual interest and debt charges on the National Debt at the same periods?


Edgar John Benson: 1. 1967, $15,965 million; 1968, $16,760 million; 1969 (Preliminary), $17,326 million.
2. 1967, $1,190.6 million; 1968, $1,300.8 million; 1969 (Preliminary), $1,479.0 million.



CITIZENSHIP STATUS OF BRITISH WIVES OF CANADIAN WAR VETERANS

Mr. Marshall: Are British wives of Canadian War Veterans considered as Canadian Citizens in application for passports to travel to foreign countries?


Gérard Pelletier: No, unless they have acquired Canadian citizenship in their own right.



NEWFOUNDLAND WAR VETERANS' WIVES- CITIZENSHIP STATUS

Mr. Marshall: 1.	What is the status of citizenship of wives of Newfoundland War Veterans who married overseas during World Wars I and II?
2.	Are they considered Canadian citizens in application for passports to travel to foreign countries?


Gérard Pelletier: Citizenship does not derive automatically from marriage to a War Veteran. However, the great majority of wives to whom the question refers are Canadian citizens and would be issued passports.



ANNUAL BUDGETS, CBAF AND CBAFT, MONCTON, CBZ, FREDERICTON

Mr. Corbin: 1.	What were the annual budgets (a) of radio station CBAF (b) of television station CBAFT of the Socidtfi Radio-Canada in Moncton for each year since they were opened or began operations including building, rental and operating costs?
2.	What was the annual budget of station CBZ in Fredericton (including the CBD relay in Saint John) of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation for each year since it was opened or began operations, including building, rental and operating costs?


Gérard Pelletier: It has not been customary to require the
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CBC to disclose information which could adversely affect the Corporation in the competitive business in which it is engaged.



INSTRUMENT LANDING SYSTEMS- LOCATION OF INSTALLATIONS

Mr. Marshall: Are any of the 29 instrument landing systems (ILS) recently purchased by the Department of Transport to be installed at the Airports at Stephen-ville and Deer Lake, Newfoundland?


Donald Campbell Jamieson: The intention of the Department of Transport is to install an (ILS) in support of the operation of jet aircraft into Deer Lake.
An (ILS) is presently installed at Stephen-ville.



CANADIAN PREFERENCE IN CHARTERED BANK LOANS

Mr. Orlikow: 1.	What machinery has been established in the Department of Finance to ensure that the Chartered Banks in Canada will be following the guidelines put forward by the Minister of Finance regarding loan preference to Canadian rather than U.S. customers and loan preference to lesser developed Canadian areas and small businesses as stated by the Minister in Hansard on page 11,019, July 9, 1969?
2.	Was there any correspondence between the Minister and the Chartered Banks regarding these guidelines?
3.	If so, will this correspondence be Tabled in the House?


Edgar John Benson: 1.	None, but the Governor of the Bank of Canada, when he appeared before the House of Commons Standing Committee on Finance, Trade and Economic Affairs, stated that at recent meetings with executives of the chartered banks the Bank of Canada had expressed the view, as it has in earlier periods of tight credit conditions, that the banks should have special regard for the needs of borrowers in less prosperous areas of the country and of small businesses that do not have alternative sources of credit. In addition, very recently when it became apparent that in view of the higher bank loan rates in the United States U.S. corporations would have an incentive to borrow here directly or through Canadian subsidiaries, he had suggested to the banks that they should give priority in the use of their total loan resources to the credit-worthy demands of their Canadian customers. The Minister of Finance stated in the House on

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July 9 that he had expressed the same views to the banks.
2.	No.
3.	Answered by 2.



POLICY RESPECTING TRADE WITH SOUTH AFRICA

Mr. Knowles (Winnipeg: Norlh Centre):
1.	Is it the policy of the Department of Industry, Trade and Commerce to stimulate trade opportunities between Canada and the Republic of South Africa, in spite of Canada's expressed opposition to South Africa's racial policies?
2.	If so, have any special activities been undertaken in the last year to stimulate such trade?


Jean-Luc Pepin: 1. Yes, normal trade promotional activities are conducted.
2. Canada has maintained trade posts in Cape Town and Johannesburg, South Africa for many years which process trade enquiries from both the Canadian and South African business communities. During fiscal year 196869 two trade missions visited South Africa as well as other countries.



NATIONAL DEFENCE-PURCHASE OF FALCON AIRCRAFT

Mr. Deakon: 1.	Has the Department of National Defence recently purchased eight Falcon aircraft?
2.	If so, for what purpose?
3.	What was the cost of these aircraft?


Mr. D. W. Groos (Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of National Defence):: 1 and 2.
Seven Falcon aircraft have been purchased to provide faster and more economical transportation, as replacement for older, larger aircraft being withdrawn from service.
3. $13,200,000 including support requirements.



FARMERS' AVERAGE INCOME, QUEBEC, PRAIRIE PROVINCES

Mr. Deakon: 1.	What was the average income of farmers in the Province of Quebec for the years 1957 and 1968?
2.	What was the average income of farmers in each of the Prairie Provinces for the years 1967 and 1968?


Jean-Luc Pepin: The Dominion Bureau of Statistics reports that: 1 and 2. The average net income of farmers from farming 
operations for Quebec and each of the three Prairie Provinces is as follows for 1967 and 1968 in thousands of dollars:
Province	1967	1968	AverageQuebec	193,233	209,016	201,125Manitoba	155,889	170,043	162,966Saskatchewan	361,122	479,167	420,145Alberta	280,459	381,724	331,092
These estimates of farm income are calculated by adding together farm cash receipts from farming operations, value of farm perquisites, value of changes in farm inventories of field crops and livestock, and deducting farm operating expenses and depreciation charges.



CANADIAN ARMY-ELIGIBILITY OF NEWFOUNDLAND PHARMACISTS

Mr. Marshall: 1.	Are persons registered and qualified as pharmacists in the Province of Newfoundland eligible to enter the Canadian Army as Pharmacist Officers without the requirement of additional training?
2.	Is there a requirement of additional training and, if so, for what reasons?
3.	If persons qualified and registered as pharmacists in the Province of Newfoundland are not eligible to enter the Canadian Army as Pharmacist Officers without additional training, is there a prohibition against civilian pharmacists qualified and registered in Newfoundland prescribing for Armed Forces personnel in Newfoundland?
4.	Are qualified and registered pharmacists in the Province of Newfoundland considered eligible for appointments in the federal Food and Drug Directorate of the Department of National Health and Welfare?
5 Are qualified and registered pharmacists employed in the federal Food and Drug Directorate in Ottawa eligible for entry into the Canadian Forces as Pharmacist Officers?
6.	Are the standards of qualification for Newfoundland pharmacists considered equal in both the federal Food and Drug Directorate and the Canadian Armed Forces and, if not, for what reasons?


Yves Forest: I am
informed by the Department of National Defence and the Department of National Health and Welfare as follows:
1.	A person registered and qualified as a pharmacist in the Province of Newfoundland is eligible for enrolment in the Canadian Forces without additional training if he: a. holds a degree in pharmacy granted by a university or recognized school of pharmacy; and b. is in good standing with the Newfoundland Pharmaceutical Association.
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2.	Applicants without a degree in pharmacy would require additional training to obtain such a degree before becoming eligible for enrolment. The academic and professional enrolment standards were established as the minimum professional requirements for pharmacists entering the Canadian Forces. In addition to assuring a minimum academic entry standard, these criteria permit equal opportunity for progression in rank, post graduate training, and general professional responsibility for all Canadian Forces' pharmacists. Pharmacists enrolled without a degree would be at a distinct disadvantage in competing with their colleagues and would undoubtedly be restricted in career advancement.
3.	The ineligibility of persons qualified and registered as pharmacists in the Province of Newfoundland to enter the Armed Forces as pharmacist officers does not preclude their dispensing drugs in a civilian capacity to Armed Forces personnel in Newfoundland.
4.	Pharmacists who apply for employment with the Food and Drug Directorate of the Department of National Health and Welfare must possess the basic qualifications for entrance to the Pharmacy Group. These qualifications are at least university graduation in pharmacy, or eligibility for registration as a pharmacist in a province of Canada. Additional qualifications and experience may be required, depending on the classification level of the position for which an individual is being considered.
5.	Pharmacists employed in the Federal Food and Drug Department in Ottawa are eligible for entry in the Canadian Forces as pharmacist officers if they have a degree in pharmacy and are a member in good standing as a practising or non-practising member of the Pharmaceutical Association, Society, or College of a Canadian province.
6.	Insofar as the federal Food and Drug Directorate is concerned see answer to part 4.
The minimum academic and professional qualifications established for pharmacists entering the Canadian Forces are a degree in pharmacy and membership in good standing as a practising or non-practising member of the Pharmaceutical Association, Society, or College of a Canadian province.



EMPLOYMENT OF NEWFOUNDLANDERS IN LABRADOR

Mr. Marshall: 1.	How many applicants from Newfoundland have obtained employment in Labrador as listed at Can-
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ada Manpower Centres (a) Labrador City (b) Wabush (c) Churchill Falls?
2.	How many applicants are listed at the following Manpower Offices in Newfoundland (a) St. John's (b) Gander (c) Grand Falls (d) Corner Brook?
3.	How many applicants from the Province of Quebec have received employment in Churchill Falls through applications made through Canada Manpower Centres?


Hon. Allan J. MacEachen (Minister of Manpower and Immigration):: 1. (a) and (b), 23;
1.	(c), 32.
2.	(a), 2,058; (b), 79; (c), 170; (d), 361.
3.	39.



CANADIAN ARMY-ISSUE OF NEW UNIFORMS

Mr. Marshall: 1.	When is it expected that issue of the new Canadian Army uniform will be made?
2.	What will be the estimated cost of the new uniforms?
3.	What is the value of present stocks of Army, Navy and Air Force uniforms and accessories on hand, in (a) Ordnance Stores (b) anywhere else?
4.	With the cutbacks in strength of the Canadian Forces is it intended to decrease the orders for new uniforms with regard to economy?
5.	How is it intended to dispose of present stocks of Army, Navy and Air Force uniforms and accessories after delivery of new uniforms?
6.	When is it expected that the issue of new uniforms will be made to the Reserve Forces?


David Walter Groos: 1. and 2.
See reply to Question No. 994, Hansard page 4307, dated January 15, 1969.
3.	$6,000,000.
4.	Yes.
5.	By phasing the issue program over a 3 year period, present stocks will be reduced through normal usage. Stocks remaining on completion of the issue of the new uniforms to members of the Regular Forces, will be used by the Reserves, until they in turn are converted to the new uniform, and by the Cadet organizations. Any surplus beyond these requirements will be issued to the Emergency Supply Planning Branch of the Department of Supply and Services, for the Canada Emergency Measures Organization or National Health and Welfare for future emergencies, or will be declared surplus to Crown Assets Disposal Corporation.
6.	No firm date has been established and issue will not commence until after completion of the Regular Force issue program.

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CANSO, NOVA SCOTIA-APPROVAL BY TOWN	ESTABLISHMENT OF MILITARY BASE
OF PLANS FOR FEDERAL BUILDING	IN NEWFOUNDLAND


Mr. MacEwan: Have site and building plans for a new federal building at Canso, Nova Scotia, been approved by the Town of Canso?


Hon. Arthur Laing (Minister of Public Works):: Yes.



NEWFOUNDLAND-EMPLOYMENT OBTAINED BY STUDENTS THROUGH MANPOWER CENTRES

Mr. Marshall: How many students have secured employment during the months of May and June, 1969 through Canada Manpower Centres at Corner Brook, Grand Falls, Gander and St. John's, Newfoundland?
Hon. Allan J.	MacEachen		(Minister of
Manpower and Immigration): The number of students who secured employment during the months of May and June 1969 through Canada			
Manpower Centres	at	Corner	Brook, GrandFalls, Gander and	St.	John's	Newfoundlandwas as follows:	May	JuneCorner Brook	144	171Grand Falls	22	12Gander	17	35St. John's	78	130



RESERVE FORCES-CONSULTATION WITH CONFERENCE OF DEFENCE ASSOCIATIONS AS TO CUT-BACKS

Mr. Marshall: 1.	Has the Conference of Defence Associations been consulted with regard to cutbacks in the Reserve Forces?
2	If so, when was the meeting held?
3.	If not, is it intended that they will be consulted?
4.	What are the reasons for the cutting back of the reserves?
5.	What is the strength of the Reserve Forces of Canada under (a) the Militia (Army) (b) the Naval Reserves (c) the Air Force Auxiliary?


David Walter Groos: 1. Yes, see Hansard dated 15 July, page 11220, and 16 July, page 11284.
2.	11 July, 1969.
3.	Not applicable.
4.	The limiiations imposed by a fixed budget have involved a reduction in the over-all size of the Canadian Forces, and this reduction applies also to the Reserves.
5.	(a) 23,237; (b) 2,799; (c) 807.
[Mr. Groos.)


Mr. Marshall: 1.	Will consideration be given to the establishment of a military base in the Province of Newfoundland as requested by the Newfoundland Command of the Royal Canadian Legion?
2.	What steps are being taken to make a study of the factors surrounding the establishment?
3.	Under whose responsibility in the Department of National Defence does such a study fall?


David Walter Groos: 1, 2 and
3. The proposal submitted by the Newfoundland Command of the Royal Canadian Legion for the establishment of a Canadian Forces' base in Newfoundland was given careful consideration during the recent review of defence policy by the Chief of Defence Staff and his advisors. However, it is not intended to establish such a base in Newfoundland at this time.



TAX REFORM-PERSONS INVOLVED IN PREPARATION

Mr. Bailsman: 1.	Have there been any individuals, other than civil servants, who have been involved in the preparation of the Government's White Paper on Canadian Tax Reform?
2.	If so, who are these individuals and on what basis were they selected?


Edgar John Benson: 1.	Yes. Two categories of individuals who are not civil servants have been involved in the preparation of the government's White Paper on Canadian Tax Reform. Those in the first category are members of the government, and the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Finance. The second category includes three individuals; Mr. D. Andison, a lawyer working full time on contract with the Department of Finance, and Messrs. P. M. Far-well and M. C. F. Gillan, full time Special Assistants to the Minister of Finance. A third group have not been involved in the preparation of the White Paper as such, but did take part in the analysis of the recommendations of the Royal Commission on Taxation and of the views on tax reforms put forward by the provincial governments, national associations and others. These individuals were on contract to the Department of Finance. Their names are: Mr. R. J. Bertrand, Mr. R. Bourassa, Mr. J. R. Brown (presently a civil servant), Mr. R. W. Collins, Dr. R. W. V. Dickerson, Mr. D. G. Hartle (presently a civil servant), Mr. D. R. Huggett, Mr. E. G. Miller, Mr. A. Raynauld, Mr. L. M.
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Read, Mr. A. E. J. Thompson (presently a civil servant), Mr. J. B. Tinker.
Also in this third group would be a number of economists who collaborated on the six studies prepared for the Department of Finance by the Institute of Quantitative Analysis of Social and Economic Policy (University of Toronto), referred to in question No. 1,111 on page 5310 of Hansard for February 10, 1969.
2.	Mr. Andison and those in group three are accountants, economists or lawyers with particular experience in tax matters or in economic analysis. They were selected by the Department on the basis of that experience.



FEDERAL-PROVINCIAL MEETINGS AND CONFERENCES-PARTICIPATION BY MAYORS

Mr. Marshall: 1.	Is it the intention of the federal government to accede to the resolution of the 32nd Annual Conference of the Canadian Federation of Municipal Mayors at the meeting on "Local Communities and the Constitution" (a) to invite selected delegates to attend meetings or to participate in matters relating to federal, provincial or municipal interests as they feel are desirable, and (b) to invite selected delegates, wherever possible, to future Federal-Provincial Constitutional Conferences?
2.	If the answer is 'no' for what reasons?
3.	If the answer is 'yes' is it intended to invite such delegates to the next Federal-Provincial Conference?
4.	If municipal authorities are not invited to participate directly, will the government request that provinces include municipal representatives in provincial delegations?


James Edgar Walker: 1. The government
will give careful consideration to any resolutions of the Canadian Federation of Mayors and Municipalities that the Federation wishes to present to it. No resolution of the sort referred to in the question has been submitted to the government.
2.	Not applicable.
3.	Not applicable.
4.	It is the view of the government that such a request on its part would not be appropriate.



SHIPMENTS OF CODFISH TO NIGERIA-BIAFRA

Mr. Marshall: 1. Which department and/or agency arranged for the shipments of codfish sent to Nigeria/Biafra in 1968?
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2. Which firms performed the work connected with shipment of this fish including the work of receiving, loading and overseeing shipment?
3	In each case, were tenders called for this work and, if not, for what reason?
4.	In each case, how much was paid to these firms?
5.	Was codfish transhipped from Newfoundland to Halifax before being shipped to Africa and, if so, for what reason and at what cost?


Mitchell William Sharp: 1. The Canadian International Development Agency in conjunction with the Fisheries Price Support Board, and the Department of National Defence.
2.	1st Consignment-Fisheries Price Support Board and Department of National Defence.
2nd Consignment-Keel Shipping Ltd., Fisheries Price Support Board, Canadian International Development Agency.
3.	1st Consignment-First consignment shipped by air on Department of National Defence aircraft at a cost of $27,000.
2nd Consignment-Second consignment shipped by chartered vessel which carried not only fish but other foodstuffs as well as hospital supplies. Total cost of charter: $149,021.44.
4.	1st Consignment-In view of urgency, first consignment purchased directly from Fisheries Price Support Board without tender call.
2nd Consignment-Tenders were called by Fisheries Price Support Board on behalf of the Canadian International Development Agency for the second consignment, and contracts were awarded to lowest bidders.
5.	The fish supplied by the Fisheries Price Support Board from stocks held in Newfoundland was transported to Halifax for loading on board the chartered vessel as it was more economical to bring the fish to Halifax than to arrange for the vessel to call and load in Newfoundland. Total cost of transporting the fish from Newfoundland to Halifax amounted to $52,732.27.



CANADIAN FIRMS PARTICIPATING IN U.S. ROCKET CONSTRUCTION

Mr. Beaudoin: 1.	How many Canadian corporations participated directly or indirectly in the manufacture of parts used in the construction of American rockets since 1960, and for each of the years since?
2.	What is the name of each?
3.	How much money was earned from such participation?

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Yves Forest: I am informed by the Department of Industry, Trade and Commerce as follows:
Although a number of Canadian firms have participated in the United States space programs, no informa'ion is available on any Canadian firms participating in the manufacture of parts used in the construction of American rockets, per se.



CHANGE IN RUN OF M.V. &quot;LUCY MAUD MONTGOMERY&quot;

Mr. Macquarrie: 1.	Is it intended to transfer the M V Lucy Maud Montgomery from the Borden-Tormentine ferry service to the Wood Islands-Caribou run?
2.	If so, when is such transfer to be made?
3.	What alterations or extensions to dock and harbour facilities would be necessary to accommodate this ship?
4.	What would be the total cost of such extensions or alterations?
5.	If such transfer is not to be made, is it the intention of the government to assist in providing a third ship at Wood Islands-Caribou?
6 When is it intended to augment this service?


Donald Campbell Jamieson: The Canadian Transport Commission advises as follows: 1. Active consideration is being given to adding a third vessel to the Wood Islands-Caribou run, but no decision has yet been taken as to the identity of the vessel.
2.	See Answer to 1.
3.	See Answer to 1.
4.	See Answer to 1.
5.	See Answer to 1.
6.	See Answer to 1.



RIVERS SUBDIVISION, CNR-INVESTIGATION OF ACCIDENT

['I am informed by the CBC as follows:\nIf, by the "top ten" among CBC-TV network programs is meant the ten programs with the biggest average audience, four such programs in mid-season 1968-69 were made in Canada-"Tommy Hunter", "Saturday Night Hockey", "Don Messer" and "Front Page Challenge". Of these four, one was not renewed-"Don Messer". There are, however, various ways of evaluating the performance of network programs: ranking by size of total audience to produce a "top 10" is only one of them.']
Donald Campbell Jamieson: The Canadian Transport Commission advises as follows: 1. The investigation is completed and the report thereof is being considered by the Railway Transport Committee of the Canadian Transport Commission. The findings of the investigation are dealt with in three below.
2.	Not applicable.
3.	The application of the Brotherhood of Maintenance-of-Way Employees and of certain running trades for the report to be made public is now before the Railway Transport Committee.
4.	Man-hours estimated at 170.
5.	Eight.
6.	Answered by three.



Mr. Fairweaiher: 1.	What is the total number of Foreign Service Officers or Administrative Trainees now employed by the Department of External Affairs?
2.	How many persons designated as a Foreign Service Officer resigned from the Department for reasons other than retirement (a) in 1969, to date (b) in each of the last ten years?
3.	How many persons designated as Administrative Trainee resigned from the Department for reasons other than retirement (a) in 1969, to date (b) in each of the last ten years?
4	Of those now in the service, how many in each category were stationed in Ottawa in June 1969?
5.	Of those stationed in Ottawa, how many in each category were assigned directly to the office or the staff of the Secretary of State for External Affairs?
6.	Are persons so assigned in addition to Special Assistants, Executive Assistants or Private Secretary not drawn from normal resources of the Department?
7.	What are the funtcions of each Foreign Service Officer or Administrative Trainee assigned to the staff of the Secretary of State for External Affairs?
8.	What are the special functions in the office or on the staff of the Secretary of State for External Affairs which require a Foreign Service Officer or an Administrative Trainee to perform them?
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9. On the basis of what criteria is a Foreign Service Officer or an Administrative Trainee assigned to the office or the staff of the Secretary of State for External Affairs?


Mitchell William Sharp: 1. 495 Foreign Service Officers and 9 administrative trainees.
2.	(a) 15. (b) The number of separations for reasons other than retirement or death for each of the last ten fiscal years is as follows: 1959-60, 8; 1960-61, 12; 1961-62, 8; 1962-63, 7; 1963-64, 10; 1964-65, 18; 196566, 11; 1966-67, 9; 1967-68, 10; 1968-69, 14.
3.	(a) 3. (b) The Administrative Trainee Programme was begun in 1967. There was 1 resignation in 1968.
4.	223 Foreign Service Officers and 11 Administrative Trainees.
5.	3.
6.	Such persons are drawn from normal resources of the Department.
7.	The Departmental Assistants to the Secretary of State for External Affairs share a number of functions. These are: scanning the flow of reports from Canadian missions abroad and making selections and summaries for the Secretary of State for External Affairs and the Prime Minister; following proceedings of Parliament with particular reference to items relating to the Department of External Affairs; coordinating the preparation of replies to parliamentary questions and returns; assembling material from Departmental sources for statements and speeches by the Secretary of State for External Affairs; preparing replies to correspondence on Departmental matters addressed to the Secretary of State for External Affairs; and generally acting as liaison officers between the Minister's office and the various divisions of the Department of External Affairs and the Canadian International Development Agency.
8.	See answer to part 7.
9.	An attempt is made to provide officers who have the qualities required for the effective performance of the duties mentioned in the answer to part 7 and who will benefit from the general experience provided by such duties.


Mr. Peddle: 1. What is the total expenditure for advertising on behalf of the CBC in papers belonging to the
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Canadian Weekly Newspapers Association or Les Hebdos de Langue Frangaise du Canada, in each of the ten provinces in the fiscal year 1968-69?
2. What was the total expenditure for advertising on behalf of the CBC in each of the following newspapers in the fiscal year 1968-69:
Canadian Middle East Journal, Bielaruski Holas, The Chinese Times, The Chinese Voice, The New Republic, Shing Wah Daily News, Bratstvo, Glas Kanadskih Srba, Hrvatski Glas, Kanadski Srbobran, Nas Put, Slovenska Drzava, Kanadsky Slivak, Nase Hlasy, Novy Domot, Slovensky Hlas, Modersmaalet Convinist-Contact, Compass-Onder Ons, Duca-Post, Goed Nieuws, Hollandia-News, De Nederlandse Courant, De Nederlandse Post, Pioneer, Meie Elu, Vaba Eestlane, Canadian Uutiset, Vapaa Sana, Der Courier, Dies und Das, Hamilton Journal, I hre Brigitte. Kitchener Journal, Mennonitische Rundschau, Montrealer Nachrichtex, Montrealer Zeitung, Der Nordwesten, Torontoer Zietung, Die Zeit, Estia, Greek Canadian Tribune, Hellenic Echo, Hellenic Free Press, The Hellenic Postman, Hellenic Tribune, New Times, New World, Fuggetlen Magy-arorszagot, Kanadai Fuggetlen Hirlap, Kanadai Magyar Ujsag, Kanadai Magyarsag, Kepes Vilaghi-rado, Magyar Elet, Magyar Hirlap, Menorah-Egyenloseg, Sporthirado, Logberg-Heimskringla, 11 Cittadino Canadese, Corriere Canadese, Corriere Illustrato, Corriere Italiano, L'Eco d'ltaUa, La Famiglia Christiana, II Giomale di Toronto, 11 Mondo, L 'Ora di Ottawa, La Tribun a Italiana, The Continental Times, The New Canadian, Canadian Jewish News, Canadian jewish Weekly, Chronicle Review, The Daily Hebrew Journal, The Jewish Eagle, The Jewish Post, Jewish Western Bulletin, The Yiddish Press, Latvia-America, Liaudies Balsas, Nepriklausoma Lietuva, Teviskes Ziburiai, The Malta Herald, Norrona, Czas, Glos Polski # Gazeta Polska, Zwieazkowiec, Correio Portugues, O Jornal Portugues, Lusitano, Luso-Canadiano, O Mesageiro, Voz de Portugal, Correo Hispano-Americano, Canada Svensken, Canada Tidningen, Nya Svenska Pressen, Batkivshchyna, The Canadian Farmer, Homin Ukrainy, Moloda Ukraine, My 1 Suit, Nasha Meta, Novi Dni, Novy Shliakh, Postup, Promin, Svitlo, Ukrainsky Holos, Ukrainsky Visti, Vilne Slovo, Yevanhelsky Ranok, Yunak, Zhinochy Suit?
3.	What was the total expenditure for advertising on behalf of the CBC in daily newspapers in each of the provinces in the fiscal year 1968-69?


Gérard Pelletier: I am informed by the CBC as follows: 1. Newfoundland, Nil; Maritimes Provinces, Nil; Quebec, $5,900; Ontario, Nil; Prairie Provinces, $316; B.C., Nil.
2.	CBC spent a total of $127 on advertising in the ethnic press. It has not been customary to require the Corporation to disclose individual payments since such specific details could adversely affect business relationships.
3.	Newfoundland, $3,900; Maritime Provinces, $8,085; Quebec, $56,448; Ontario, $12,433; Prairie Provinces, $50,664; B.C., $2,000.
Note: The above figures represent cash expenditures only. The bulk of CBC advertising is in daily newspapers on a contra-account basis.

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Mr, Beaudoin: 1.	To the knowledge of the Post Office Department, how many periodicals have had to cease their distribution because mailing costs are too high?
2.	Is the government considering granting a special rate to periodicals which are concerned directly with educational information?


Eric William Kierans: In so far
as the Post Office Department is concerned: 1. The number of periodicals which have had to cease publication because mailing costs are too high is not known to the Post Office Department.
2. No.


Mr. McCleave: Of the regularly scheduled programs telecast by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation on its English network during mid-season 1968-69, which ones made in Canada were among the top 10, and which of such was not renewed?


Gérard Pelletier: I am informed by the CBC as follows:
If, by the "top ten" among CBC-TV network programs is meant the ten programs with the biggest average audience, four such programs in mid-season 1968-69 were made in Canada-"Tommy Hunter", "Saturday Night Hockey", "Don Messer" and "Front Page Challenge". Of these four, one was not renewed-"Don Messer". There are, however, various ways of evaluating the performance of network programs: ranking by size of total audience to produce a "top 10" is only one of them.



POST OFFICE-RESCINDING OF FEE FOR SECOND CLASS PRIVILEGES

Mr. Macquarrie: 1.	Is it the intention of the Postmaster General to rescind the $15.00 application fee for second class postal privileges for publications in favor of an initial registration valid for the life of the publication?
2.	How many publishers have received refunds of the $15.00 fee?


Eric William Kierans: In so far
as the Post Office Department is concerned: 1. No.
2. Up to the 9th September, 1969, 1091.



DEPARTMENT OF COMMUNICATIONS, ASSISTANT DEPUTY MINISTER (OPERATIONS)

Mr. Macquarrie: 1.	Was the position of Assistant Deputy Minister (Operations) in the Department of Communications filled by regular Public Service Commission procedures and competition?
2.	Was this position advertised and, if so, in what manner?
3.	If this position was open to competition, what was the number of that competition and who applied in the competition?
4.	If this position was not open for competition, for what reasons was no competition held?
5.	Who currently is Assistant Deputy Minister (Operations) for the Department of Communications, what salary does he receive, and what are his qualifications?


Gérard Pelletier: I am informed by the Public Service Commission as follows: 1. The position of Assistant Deputy Minister (Operations) in the Department of Communications was filled by process of selection provided for in Section 10 of the Public Service Employment Act.
2.	The position was not advertised.
3.	Not applicable.
4.	An executive search was carried out by the Executive Program of the Public Service Commission. No candidates were identified, either within or outside the Public Service, whose qualifications and experience were equal to or better than those of the candidate selected.
5.	Mr. Gilles Bergeron. His salary is in the range $23,000-$29,000. Mr. Bergeron holds a Bachelor of Science Degree in Mining Engineering from the University of Montreal and a Master of Science Degree in Business Administration from the University of Toronto. The Commission considered that his experience in the private sector, and as an executive with the Quebec provincial public service and the federal public service, together with his educational qualifications, provided appropriate background and experience for his appointment to the post of Assistant Deputy Minister (Operations), Department of Communications.



POST OFFICE-REDUCTION OF THIRD CLASS RATES

Mr. Malher: 
Eric William Kierans: In so far as
the Post Office Department is concerned: No.



MID-CANADA DEVELOPMENT CORRIDOR FOUNDATION

Mr. Harding: 1.	How much has the federal government contributed to the Mid-Canada Development Corridor Foundation since its inception?
2.	What will be the extent of the federal government's participation in the Mid-Canada Development Corridor Conference planned for August 18-22?


Russell Clayton Honey: 1. Nil.
2. Two officials, Mr. Andre Saumier, Regional Economic Expansion and Mr. R. R. Cope, Canadian Transport Commission, attended as observers.



&quot;PROVISION OF AID TO AMATEUR SPORT

Mr. Rynard: 1.	Has there been any consideration given to the requested increase of administration funds to all sports governing bodies under the Amateur Sports program?
2.	What other grants, if any, have been approved?
3.	What payment, if any, has been made to the Canadian Water Ski Association of the 50 per cent travel grant to the General Meeting which was held in Halifax, Nova Scotia?
4.	What grants specifically have been promised to the Canadian Water Ski Association?
5.	What number of grants have been paid to the Canadian Water Ski Association and what number are being considered?


Mr. Stanley Haidasz (Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of National Health and Welfare):: Mr. Speaker, the answer to this question is as follows: 1. Yes. Consideration has been given to the requested increase of administration funds to all sports governing bodies under the Amateur Sports program.
2.	Other grants approved are for the purpose of assisting the holding of national championships, participating in international competitions and world championships, and conducting training programs for coaches, officials and athletes.
3.	The Canadian Water Ski Association has been awarded a grant of $2,800 to assist in covering its administration costs as well as providing 50 per cent of travel assistance to its annual and one executive meeting during the 1969-70 fiscal year.
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4.	Other grants awarded to the Canadian Water Ski Association are as follows: Assistance to hold the 1969 national men's and women's championships: $6,898. Assistance to conduct a national coaches clinic in 1969: $3,844. Assistance to participate in the 1969 world championships in Denmark: $4,530. Pretraining of national team prior to world championships: $3,671.
5.	All grants, as listed under Part 4 above, have been paid to the Canadian Water Ski Association, and none are presently being considered.



NATIONAL DEFENCE-GOODS SOLD AT CANEX STORES

Mr. McCleave: 1.	What is the policy of the Department of National Defence regarding the variety of goods sold at Canex stores?
2.	Has the Department received complaints from civilian retailers and, if so, what is the nature of complaints?
3.	What happens to any surplus realized by Canex stores?


David Walter Groos: 1. The
policy is to ensure that a Base Exchange will offer for resale the range of goods and services necessary to meet the needs of its patrons.
2.	Yes. Prior to 1968, the three services operated their own resale activities. Subsequent to unification, CANEX was the name chosen for the consolidated non-public fund resale outlets of the Canadian Forces, and a number of merchants and operators of services located near some of the military bases thought a new activity was being introduced which would be harmful to their own particular business. When it was explained that this was not so, apprehensions prompting these complaints appeared to be dispelled.
3.	Any profits realized are used to provide social, recreational and welfare benefits to the military community.



FINANCE-PLACING OF NEW MONEY IN CIRCULATION

Mr. McCleave: By what process is new money put into the financial bloodstream of Canada, over and above the replacement of worn out currency?


Edgar John Benson: The Bank of Canada, through its monetary operations, is able to determine broadly the

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rate of increase in the combined total of currency outside banks and chartered bank deposits.
The proportion of this total which is held in the form of currency, however, is determined by the public. Anyone having a balance in his account at a chartered bank may withdraw all or any part of it in the form of Bank of Canada notes and anyone holding such notes may deposit them for credit to his account.
The chartered banks, of course, keep sufficient holdings of Bank of Canada notes in their vaults and tills to meet demand by their customers, and obtain them from the Bank of Canada by paying for them out of deposit accounts maintained at the Bank. They may also return excess notes in their possession for credit to their deposit accounts at the Bank of Canada. A chartered bank's holdings of Bank of Canada notes in its own tills, along with its deposit at the Bank of Canada, constitute the statutory cash reserve which it is required to maintain under the Bank Act.



NUMBER OF EUROPEAN STUDENTS WORKING IN CANADA

Mr. Dionne: 1.	How many European workers, students or others came to Canada during the years 1966-67-6869 to work on fruit or tobacco farms in Ontario or other provinces under an agreement with the Department of Citizenship and Immigration?
2.	(a) What were their nationalities (b) under what conditions did they work?


Allan Joseph MacEachen: 1. European students have been admitted for employment on tobacco farms in Ontario under special arrangement with the Department of Manpower and Immigration. In the years 1966, 67 and 68, there were respectively 506, 1295 and 1174 students admitted for such work in Canada. In 1969, 802 European students were admitted for work on the tobacco harvest.
2.	(a) Nationalities of students-British, French, German, Austrian, Dutch, Belgian, (b) Conditions of employment are the same as those for Canadian workers and students are paid the prevailing wage rates for the industry.
3.	Figures are not available for students who came to work on fruit farms, as there is no formal program for this group of employers.



ESTABLISHMENT OF WAGES INDEX

Mr. Robinson: Will the federal government consider the advisability and/or feasibility of setting up a wages index along the lines of the consumer price index and, if so, will it be made retroactive in order to be more meaningful?


Jean-Luc Pepin: The Dominion Bureau of Statistics reports that: In the Dominion Bureau of Statistics monthly publication "Man Hours and Hourly Earnings" (publication no. 72-003), Table 12 shows the average weekly wages for production workers in the manufacturing industry adjusted for changes in the consumer price index. This table also contains an index of weekly wages in the industry mentioned on a 1961 base. The same table is included in the monthly DBS publication "Prices and Price Indexes" (publication no. 62-002).
As the majority of production workers are located in manufacturing, there are no plans to extend the published data to other industries.



IMMIGRATION-ENTRY APPLICATIONS BY FOREIGN ARMED FORCES PERSONNEL

Mr. Robinson: 1.	How many applications have been received from members of the Armed Forces of other countries for permanent entry to Canada and how many have been received from each country for which an application was made?
2.	How many have been (a) accepted (b) rejected (c) are still being considered?
3.	Are aplications considered from applicants (a) within Canada (b) outside Canada and are they both given the same consideration and, if not, what is the difference in the consideration given?


Allan Joseph MacEachen: 1 and 2. Because an immigrant's membership in the armed services of another country has no bearing on his admissibility to Canada, information on this subject is not recorded on immigration documentation.
3. Applicants whether in Canada or outside who are eligible to apply for landed immigrant status under the Immigration Act and Regulations, must meet the same basic requirements in order to qualify for admission with one exception. Those applicants who are in Canada cannot obtain any units of assessment under the selection criteria for arranged employment. This exception applies to all applicants in Canada and is in accordance with paragraph 4 of Schedule A of the
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Immigration Regulations as revised by Order in Council P.C. 1967-1616 with effect from October 1, 1967.



NATIONAL DEFENCE-ORDER FOR OFFICERS' UNIFORMS

Mr. Hees: 1.	Was there an order placed in recent weeks for 14,000 or more officers' uniforms for the Department of National Defence?
2.	If so, what was the name of the company which received the order?
3.	Was the order placed after tenders had been called?
4.	If so, what were the other firms or companies that were asked to tender on this order?
5.	If the order was awarded without a call for tender, what was the reason?


James Armstrong Richardson: In so far as Department of Supply and Services is concerned: 1. No.
2 to 5. Not applicable.



ASSISTANCE TO NEW BRUNSWICK FOR PARK DEVELOPMENT

Mr. Corbin: 1.	Has the federal government granted assistance to New Brunswick under the ARDA program, for the purchase of land for park development?
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2.	If so, where are the parks for which land was acquired between April 1, 1963 and March 31, 1969?
3.	During this period, what was the total expenditure on land acquisition and park development?

Mr. Russell C. Honey (Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of Regional Economic
Expansion): 1. Yes.
2.	Gloucester, Caraquet, Belledune, Val Comeau; Northumberland, Sandy Point; Kent, Jardine; Queens, Waterborough; Kings, Pine Grove; Charlotte, New River Beach.
3.	Federal expenditure, $238,063.



NEW BRUNSWICK-SUBSIDIES TO COMPANIES BY REGIONAL DEVELOPMENT AGENCY

Mr. Corbin: 1.	What companies in the Province of New Brunswick have received financial aid under the Regional Development Agency's subsidy program since the inauguration of this program and what amount did each company receive?
2.	What is the address of each company?


Russell Clayton Honey: 11698	COMMONS
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1.	Name of Firm Atlantic Business Forms Ltd.
Crystal Beverages (1963) Ltd.
Maritime Agencies Ltd.
New Brunswick Wire Fence Co. Ltd.
Hub Meat Packers Ltd.
McCready Foods Ltd.
Sussex Refrigerating Mfg. Co. Ltd.
Craig's Machine Shop Ltd.
Canadian Industries Ltd.
Eagle Fisheries Div. of National Sea Products Ltd.
United Maritime Fishermen Ltd. Restigouche Abattoir Ltd.
Caraquet Ice Co. Ltd.
The Anglo-British Columbia Packing Co. Ltd.
Industrial Cab Co. Ltd.
Raoul Coutourier Lumber Ltd.
Bishop Sawmills Ltd.
Oscar Belanger Lumber Co. Ltd. Southampton Contractors Ltd.
Mason & Risch Ltd.
Long Fertilizers Ltd.
Highland Hardwoods Ltd.
Normandie Wines Ltd.
Emile J. Bourque Atlantic Industries (NB) Ltd.
S.	W. Bell Ltd.
Charles V. Bartlett McCain Foods Ltd.-Carleton Cold Storage Co. Ltd.
Belledune Fertilizers Ltd.
George Burchill & Sons (Plywood) Ltd. British Canadian Pitwood Ltd.- Millerton Wood Products Ltd.
Nadeau Poultry Farms Ltd.
Salaison Gauvin Ltee Christopher Mills Ltd.
Canadian Tuna Company

DEBATES	Ociober 22, 1969
Grant Paid	2. Address
$ 19,741.29	Dieppe
191,069.84	Moncton
7,687.70	Moncton
22,503.08	Moncton
45,929.07	Moncton
87,322.93	Sussex
24,447.09	Sussex
4,295.46	Hartland
42,926.00	Hartland
280,453.52	Shippegan
128,936.74	Lameque
35,288.29	Campbellton
25,669.25	Caraquet
209,728.25	Caraquet
47,200.00	McAdam
26,288.00	Edmundston
46,413.92	Canaan Forks
823.00	St. Arthur
22,070.00	Nackawic
137,353.34	Woodstock
20,000.00	Clair
52,141.60	Veneer Siding
47,130.96	Scoudouc
6,822.46	Lower Cape Bald
81,357.66	Dorchester Cape
41,250.63	Stickney
4,473.89	St. Andrews
304,221.54	Florenceville
2,602,855.17	Belledune Pt.
163,181.54	South Nelson
20,423.75	Newcastle
51,527.89	St. Frangois
47,338.69	Paquetville
37,841.00	Christopher Siding
900,000.00	St. Stephen



$5,786,713.55 STEPHENVILLE, NEWFOUNDLAND-ASSISTANCE TO INDUSTRIES

Mr. Marshall: 1.	What industrial enterprises in the Stephenville area, Newfoundland have received federal government assistance?
2.	How much did each receive in the years 196869, 1967-68, 1966-67, 1965-66, 1964-65?


Russell Clayton Honey: 1. As of July 15, 1969: West Coast Dairy Limited; Lundrigans Limited; Atlantic Brewing Co. Limited; Aluminum Co. of Canada Limited.
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2.
West Coast Dairy Limited Lundrigans Limited Atlantic Brewing Co. Limited Aluminum Co. of Canada Limited
No payments made prior to 1967-68.
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$	1,531.00	Nil
66,984.49	"
170,682.38	"
131,032.00	"



$4,291.00 NATIONAL ARTS CENTRE-PERFORMANCES HELD, COST OF PUBLICITY

Mr. Harding: 1.	What performances have been held at the National Arts Centre to date?
2.	What was the expenditure on publicity in each case?


Gérard Pelletier: I am informed by the National Arts Centre as follows:
Number
1. Date	Performance	of Performance	AuditoriumJune 2-5	National Ballet	6	Opera3-7	Montreal's TNM, French Theatre	6	Theatre6	Toronto Symphony	1	Opera8	Gordon Lightfoot	1	Opera4-7	Party Day (theatre)	5	Studio4 & 5	Manitoba Consort (Music)	2	Salon8 & 9	Orford Quartet (music)	2	Salon9-14	Vancouver Playhouse (theatre)	8	Theatre10-14	Studio-Opera (Orpheus)	6	Studio10-12	Montreal Symphony	3	Opera13	Monique Leyrac (singer)	1	Opera14	Pop Electronic (variety)	1	Opera13 & 14	Cassenti Players (music)	2	Salon17-28	Charlottetown (Festival) "Ann of Green Gables"	7	Opera"Johnny Belinda"	6	Opera23-28	Underground Film Festival	6	TheatreJune 30 to July 5	Instantheatre	7	Theatre3	Montreal Symphony	1	Opera6	Duke Ellington (jazz)	1	Opera7-12	Montreal's TNM (Fr. Theatre)	7	Theatre8-18	Love & Maple Syrup (variety)	13	Studio9	(Held over after the 18th) Juliette Greco (singer)	1	Opera10	Montreal Symphony	1	Opera14-19	Harry Belafonte (variety)	6	Opera2.	It has not been customary to require Crown Corporations to make public information of this kind, which in the case of the National Arts Centre would affect negotiations with impresarios and artists.



ANGOLA AND MOZAMBIQUE-DISAPPROVAL OF PORTUGUESE POLICY

Mr. Nystrom: With reference to Question 2,599, has Canadian disapproval of Portuguese policy in Angola and Mozambique been expressed in the NATO council or any NATO meeting?

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Mitchell William Sharp: As was noted in reply to question No. 2,599, the Canadian attitude towards Portuguese policy respecting Angola and Mozambique has been expressed at the United Nations General Assembly and directly through the Canadian Embassy in Lisbon, which we considered to be the appropriate channels. We have not raised the matter in the NATO Council or other NATO meetings.



DR. MARY WADDINGTON-EMPLOYMENT BY DEPARTMENT OF INDIAN AFFAIRS AND NORTHERN DEVELOPMENT

Mr. Orlikow: 1.	Did the Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development employ either on a parttime basis or a contract basis, Dr. Mary Wadding-ton of London, England?
2.	What duty was Dr. Waddington asked to undertake, and for how long?
3.	What payments have been, or will be made to Dr. Waddington in the form of salary, per diem allowance, expenses, etc.?
4.	Was an attempt made to engage anyone in Canada, particularly any Canadian Indian, to undertake the task assigned to Dr. Waddington?


Joseph Jacques Jean Chrétien: 1. Dr.
Mary Waddington was employed by the Department on a contract basis.
2.	Dr. Mary Waddington was hired on a two month contract to assist in designing and evaluating training programs for kinder-garden teachers and Indian teacher aides sponsored by the Department in the provinces of British Columbia, Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba and Ontario. She was also asked to observe similar programs sponsored by the Bureau of Indian Affairs in the United States.
3.	Dr. Waddington was paid a contract salary of $334 per week for a period of 11 weeks.
4.	No.



STUDY OF INDIAN SELF-GOVERNMENT

Mr. Orlikow: 1.	Has the Department of Indian Affairs and Northern Development engaged, on a contract basis, someone to do a study on Indian self-government?
2.	Who is the person employed, what is his name, what are his qualifications and what payments will he receive?
3.	If the person employed is not a Canadian, from what country does he come?
4.	Was any attempt made to find a Canadian, and more particularly a Canadian Indian, qualified to do this kind of special study?


Joseph Jacques Jean Chrétien: 1. The
Department has no knowledge of anyone who has been engaged to do a study on Indian self government.
2.	Non Applicable.
3.	Non Applicable.
4.	Non Applicable.



CANADIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION-COMPLAINTS RESPECTING PROGRAM CHANGES

Mr. Coates: 1.	Has the CBC at any time in the past received as many complaints about a program change as was the case with the Don Messer Show?
2.	What program changes in CBC programming in the past have resulted in a strong public reaction, what were the names of the programs and on what dates were these programs cancelled?
3.	Has the CBC ever reinstated a program previously cancelled as a result of public reaction?


Gérard Pelletier: I am informed by the CBC as follows: 1. Yes.
2.	Many programs and program changes have prompted strong favourable or unfavourable reaction. Over the years, there have been several instances in which strong reaction came as a result of cancellation of an established network series, such as the Don Messer program, but no complete list is available. Examples that come to mind are the cancellation of "Life is Worth Living", with Bishop Sheen, in 1957, and the decision not to renew contracts of the hosts of "This Hour Has Seven Days", in 1966.
3.	No cancelled CBC network program has been reinstated as a result of public reaction alone. However, this factor is considered in arriving at various program decisions or reviewing program schedules.



LOCKHEAD L-1011-CONTRACTS AWARDED TO CANADIAN FIRMS

Mr. Coates: 1.	How many contracts have been awarded to Canadian firms who work on the Lockheed L.1011 and what was the amount of each of the contracts awarded to Canadian firms?
2.	Was Enamel and Heating Products Limited considered by the government for any of the contracts awarded firms in Canada and, if so, for what reason has any not received any of the work involved on this aircraft?


Jean-Luc Pepin: 1 and 2. The Department of Industry, Trade and Commerce has
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provided the Lockheed Aircraft Company with advice, guidance and assistance on the placement of contracts with Canadian firms for the Lockheed L1011; however, the ultimate selection of Canadian sub-contractors and the awarding of contracts is the responsibility of the aircraft company itself.
The total number and value of all contracts is not known at this stage. However the initial value of major contracts awarded to date is estimated at approximately $58 million.



RADIO AND TELEVISION POLITICAL INTERVIEWS

Mr. Broadbenl: With reference to the reply to Question No. 1,901, Part 1(b) and 2(b) for the period of time tapes or script are kept, for (a) CBC radio, and (b) CBC television, how many members of each political party have been interviewed on the National News?


Gérard Pelletier: I am informed by the CBC as follows:
As stated in the reply to Question No. 1,901 no continuing record of individual news interviews is maintained. However, it has been possible to meet the original request to some extent through a review of scripts and tapes. In the case of English networks, total figures for the original six month period requested, October 1968-March, 1969, could be established but, in the case of French networks, totals for the same period could not be ascertained and have been tabulated for a more recent two-month period, May-June, 1969. As requested, the figures listed below refer to the number of members of parliament interviewed, and do not necessarily indicate
the number of appeared.	occasions on which each
Number of Members of Parliament Inter-	
viewed On CBC	Network News Programs
English Radio	English TV
Network	Network
(October,	1968-March, 1969)
Liberal 76	Liberal 32
P.C. 35	P.C. 21
NDP 19	NDP 11
R. Cr. 4	R. Cr. 1
French Radio	French TV
Network	Network
(May	and June 1969)
Liberal 14	Liberal 25
P.C. 2	P.C. 5
NDP -	NDP 1
R. Cr. 2 29180-739	R. Cr. 6
Questions



AUTOMOBILE COMPANIES-NATURE OF INFORMATION SUPPLIED

Mr. Broadbenl: 1.	With reference to the reply to Question No. 2,587, what categories of confidential information are supplied by the automobile companies?
2.	Without releasing specific numbers, what indicators were referred to to conclude Kaiser Jeep fully complied with the terms of the program in question?
3.	What steps were taken to verify confidential information supplied to the Department of Industry, Trade and Commerce by the various business concerns it deals with?


Jean-Luc Pepin: 1. Companies participating in the Automotive Program supply confidential reports to the Government on their activities related to the Automotive Program. The data in these reports relates to production, sales and trade. From this information the Government is able to determine the performance of the company relative to its commitments under the Automotive Program.
2.	The indicators referred to in determining the performance of any company relative to its qualification requirements are Canadian value added in vehicle production the net sales value of Canadian vehicle production relative to the net sales value of vehicle sales in Canada and the growth of the value of Canadian sales.
3.	In the case of confidential information supplied by vehicle producers participating in the Automotive Program, the Department of National Revenue conducts an audit of the company's records and reports for each production year and determines the performance of the company relative to its obligations.



TRAINING OF ITALIAN AIR CADETS

Mr. Brewin: 1.	Has the Italian Government requested the Canadian Government to train Italian air cadets?
2.	Has the Canadian Government agreed to such a proposal and what are the arrangements as to numbers, payment for training, etc.?


Mitchell William Sharp: 1 and 2. No. However, informal enquiries concerning the possibility of training academy pilots in Canada were made by the Military Attache at the Italian Embassy in Ottawa in July. Thus far, no formal request has been made by the Italian Government concerning this subject.

October 22, 1969
Questions



NOEANDA, ROUYN-CONTRIBUTIONS TO PROJECTS

Mr. Caouette: 1.	What amount is the federal government contributing to the cost of constructing a new hospital in Noranda?
2.	(a) Is the federal government subsidizing the construction of the "Maison Pie XII" home for the elderly in Rouyn and, if so, in what amount (b) is Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation granting a loan for the construction of this establishment and, if so, in what amount and at what rate of interest?
3.	Is a large polytechnical school to be built in Rouyn and, if so (a) will the federal government contribute to the cost of this project (b) in what amount will this contribution be made under the terms of a federal-provincial agreement and what particular agreement?


Yves Forest: 1. No
project has been received requesting federal assistance towards the cost of constructing a new hospital in Noranda, P.Q., under the terms of the Hospital Construction Grant.
2.	(a) No. (b) Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation has granted a loan to the Quebec Housing Corporation for the construction of "Maison Pie XII" in the amount of $730,071 at an interest rate of 6|% per annum.
3.	Not applicable.



INVESTIGATION OF MERITS OF METRIC SYSTEM

Mr. Guay (St. Boniface): 1.	Is the government investigating the merits of the Metric System?
2.	If not, are there any plans to do so?


Jean-Luc Pepin: 1. The interdepartmental committee responsible for studying present, prospective and ultimate applicability of metric measurement in Canada has- prepared a report which is being presented for the consideration of the government.
2. N/A.



NATIONAL PARKS-LEBRETON FLATS, OTTAWA

Mr. Mather: Is the Government of Canada giving favourable consideration to the establishment of a national park at the LeBreton Flats area in Ottawa?


Russell Clayton Honey: Mr. Speaker, the answer to this question is no,



ACTIVITIES OF SOVIET VESSEL &quot;TAJMYR&quot;

Mr. Anderson: 1.	Has the Department of External Affairs recently been in touch with the Soviet Embassy concerning the activities of the Soviet vessel Taimyr?
2.	Has this vessel been challenged in recent weeks by Canadian Armed Forces vessels about her intentions on the B.C. Coast?
3.	Has this vessel refused to answer such requests for information?
4.	Was this vessel boarded by Canadian Government officials in Vancouver Harbour?
5.	For how long has this vessel been under surveillance by Canadian Armed Forces units?


Yves Forest: I am
informed by the Department of the Secretary of State for External Affairs and the Department of National Defence as follows:
1.	No.
2.	No. The Soviet vessel TAJMYR conducted all operations outside the limits of Canadian territorial waters.
3.	Not applicable.
4.	Yes. All foreign vessels entering a Canadian port are subject to inspection by Customs and Immigration officials. In addition Department of Transport Radio Inspectors board foreign vessels upon request. In those cases where a diplomatic request for permission to visit a Canadian port has been received on behalf of a naval-associated ship, and has been approved, an officer of the Canadian Forces also goes on board.
5.	Since June 1, 1969.



MUSCULAR DYSTROPHY-EXPENDITURE ON RESEARCH

Mr. McCleave: 1.	How much money does the federal government put into research in muscular dystrophy?
2.	How, much by province, is made available for help to victims of muscular dystrophy and what is the formula?


John Carr Munro: 1. No specific projects in the field of research in Muscular Dystrophy have been submitted to the Department of National Health and Welfare by the provinces or National Muscular Dystrophy Agencies.
2. Despite the fact that specifically designed projects have not been submitted by the provinces in support of muscular dystrophy victims, assistance is made available and rendered to the provinces for such purposes under a number of federal-provincial programs, such as the Medical Rehabilitation and
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Crippled Children's Grant, the Child and Maternal Health Grant, and the Hospital Insurance and Diagnostic Services Program.



DIVORCE ACT-SEX OF PETITIONERS

Mr. McCleave: How many petitioners were male and how many female in the first year of the new Divorce Act?


John Napier Turner: 14,309 male, 23,807 female.



NORTHWESTERN ONTARIO WATER DIVERSION PROGRAM

Mr. Penner: 1.	What has been the total cost of a study entitled "A Proposed Water Diversion Program out of Northwestern Ontario into Lake Superior" presented in June 1964, and the six progress reports which have followed up to November, 1968?
2.	How much has been spent on this study since November, 1968?
3.	What amount of this sum was provided by the federal government and what amount came from the Province of Ontario?
4.	Did any other group, organization or private concern make funds available for this study?


Hon. Oito E. Lang (Minister without Portfolio):: 1. The study entitled "A Proposed Water Diversion Program out of Northwestern Ontario into Lake Superior" presented in June 1964, was not prepared by this Department or by the Department of Northern Affairs and National Resources. No copy of any study or report by this name and with this date is available in this Department.
The six progress reports are those of the co-ordinating Committee on Northwestern Ontario Water Resources studies established in accordance with announcements made by the Prime Ministers of Canada and Ontario in the latter part of 1965 indicating that studies of Ontario's natural water resources and related economic development would be undertaken by each Government; and that these studies would be co-ordinated by a committee representing the two Governments to avoid duplication of effort. Expenditures for the studies done by Canada which are referred to in the six progress reports mentioned in the Question are as follows:
Fiscal Year	Cost ($)
1966-	67
1967-	68
1968-	69
1969-	70
147.000.
616.000.
755.000.
685.000.	(estimated)
2. Expenditure figures not broken down as at November 1968. See (1) above.
Questions
3.	All sums referred to in (1) provided by the Federal Government. Ontario's expenditures on its investigations are not known.
4.	No.



&quot;MAN AND HIS WORLD&quot;-DISPLAY PORTRAYING MONTREAL AIRPORT

Mr. Crouse: 1.	What has been the total cost of the special display portraying the new Montreal International Airport at Sainte-Scholastique that has been established at "Man and his World"?
2 What will be the cost of maintaining this-exhibition at "Man and his World"?
3.	What has been the cost of the supporting, ceremonies associated with the special display?
4.	How many individuals will be directly involved in the showings at "Man and his World", what are their names, what work do they ordinarily carry out within the departments they are associated with and what salary does each receive?


Donald Campbell Jamieson: 1. The total cost of the New Montreal International Airport Exhibit at "Man and His World" has been $18,622.34.
2.	The exhibit is being maintained without cost to the Department of Transport; maintenance and operation is being provided by the "Man and His World" organization.
3.	Cost of the ceremony associated with the opening of the exhibit, insofar as the Department of Transport was concerned, was under $1,000.
4.	No Department of Transport personnel are involved in the daliy showings at the "Man and His World" display. The presentation is self-explanatory; projectionists and hostesses are provided by the "Man and His World" organization.



CANADIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION- FEES PAID TO JOHN LENNON, YOKO ONO AND OTHERS

Mr. Schumacher: 1.	What fees were paid by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation to John Lennon and/or Yoko Ono for their appearances on CBC television and/or CBC radio during the period May 20, 1969 to June 10, 1969?
2.	What fees were paid to any other person in respect of the appearances of John Lennon and/or Yoko Ono on CBC television and/or CBC radio by the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation during the period May 20 to June 10, 1969?
3.	Did the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation contribute in any financial way in respect of the appearances of John Lennon and/or Yoko Ono on CBC television and/or CBC radio?
4.	What are the full names and addresses of any party and/or parties receiving financial contributions from the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation

October 22, 1969
Questions
In respect of the appearances of John Lennon and/or Yoko Ono on CBC television and/or CBC radio?


Gérard Pelletier: I am informed by the CBC as follows: 1 and 2. Nil.
3.	No.
4.	Not applicable.



LEGAL AND MEDICAL SERVICES, P.E.I.- PAYMENTS BY DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS

Mr. Macquarrie: 1.	(a) What is the total amount which has been paid by the Department of Veterans Affairs in Prince Edward Island for legal services for each of the last five fiscal years (b) to whom were such fees paid and what is the total amount in each case?
2.	(a) What is the total amount which has been paid by the Department of Veterans Affairs in Prince Edward Island for medical fees for each of the last five fiscal years (b) to whom were such fees paid and what is the total amount in each case?


Jean-Eudes Dubé: 1. (a) 1964-65, $9,474.31; 1965-66, $7,879.89; 1966-67, $7,995.60; 1967-68, $10,187.49; 1968-69, $8,323.40.
(b) F. A. Large, $15,715.39; G. B. MacDonald, $19,052.38; J. B. Nicholson, $9,092.92.
2. (a) 1964-65, $40,010; 1965-66, $43,699; 1966-67, $60,893; 1967-68, $50,857; 1968-69, $45,722.
(b) Dr. M. N. Beck, $15,360; Dr. M. L. Bonnell, $17,784; Dr. W. E. Callahan, $2,240; Dr. L. S. Cox, $16,716; Dr. R. D. Drysdale, $40,140; Dr. E. M. Found, $6,690; Dr. S. Hell-mich, $2,258; Dr. G. G. Houston, $27,708; Dr.
T.	A. Laidlaw, $16,716; Dr. J. B. Lantz, $18,460; Dr. A. A. MacLeod, $9,937; Dr. F. A. MacMillan, $16,716; Dr. M. J. Putnam, $16,716; Dr. G. E. Robinson, $2,544; Dr. J. C. Sinnott, $23,880; Dr. J. C. Theriault, $3,104; Dr. F. W. Tidmarsh, $4,212.
Note: In answer 2. (a) and (b), amounts under $2,000 are not available.



MINISTER OF SUPPLY AND SERVICES- POSITION IN RELATION TO PSSRB

['1. No.\n2.\tNo.\n3.\tNo.\nQuestions']
James Edgar Walker: 1. Yes.
2. Yes.



Mr. Macquarrie: 1.	When was Samson Belair Riddell Stead Inc. awarded the contract to recommend a design for a Canada-wide postal code?
2.	When is the final report regarding this postal system expected?
3.	How much is it anticipated this study will cost?
4.	Is the report to be tabled when completed?
5.	Will the zone codes now in use in Toronto and Vancouver be studied by this group?
6.	Will the codes recently established in these cities be retained in a new national code system?
7.	What other cities will have their present codes retained?


Eric William Kierans: In so far
as the Post Office Department is concerned:
1.	July 7, 1969.
2.	Near the end of 1969.
3.	Approximately $63,500.
4.	Consideration will be given to tabling this report when it is received.
5.	6, 7. Yes, the terms of reference of the study call for consideration of the present postal zone numbering system. In the design of any national postal code for Canada, full consideration will be given to integrating present postal zone designators.


POST OFFICE-SUBSIDIES TO PERIODICALS
Mr. Macquarrie: 1.	Is the Post Office considering a program of subsidies or other aid to periodicals seriously affected by reclassification and/or raises in postal rates?
2.	Is the Post Office specifically extending aid to Le Devoir and/or L'Evangeline as was suggested as being needed by the Postmaster General on May 22, 1969, during the television program "Tirez au Clair"?
3.	Are there two or three English language newspapers being considered for assistance, following on the Postmaster General's suggestions in this regard during the same television program and, if so, what are the names of these newspapers?


Eric William Kierans: In so far
as the Post Office Department is concerned: 1. No.
October 22, 1969

2.	No.
3.	No.


PERIODICALS-ASSISTANCE BY SECRETARY OF STATE
Mr. Macquarrie: 1.	Is the Secretary of State considering a programme of subsidies or other aid to periodicals seriously affected by reclassification and/or raises in postal rates?
2.	Is the Secretary of State specifically extending aid to Le Devoir and/or L'Evangeline as was suggested as being needed by the Postmaster General on May 22, 1969, during the television programme Tirez au Clair?
3.	Are there two or three English language newspapers being considered for assistance, following on the Postmaster General's suggestions in this regard during the same television programme and, if so, what are the names of these newspapers?


Gérard Pelletier: 1. No.
2.	No.
3.	No.
Questions



PUBLICATIONS GRANTED SECOND CLASS MAILING PRIVILEGES

Mr. Macquarrie: 1.	How many of the publications listed in the answer to Question 2,311 of the honourable Member for Wellington have since been granted second class mailing privileges?
2.	Before the granting of second class privileges, what was the name and publisher of each of these publications and what is now the name and publisher in each of these cases?
3.	Which of these publications were granted second class privileges by virtue of the fact that they are now published by private interests which are eligible for second class privileges, but were formerly published by associations ineligible for these privileges?


Eric William Kierans: In so far
as the Post Office Department is concerned:
1.	Twenty six.
2.	List attached.
3.	Canadian Boy.
Title
Publisher
Before Registration
After
Registration
Humanist in Canada	Pacific Northwest Humanist Publications	SameThe Grain Grower	United Grain Growers Ltd.	SameOntario Report	Canada Law Book	SameBible Deliverance	Theodore Ruud	Same
Fellowship
The Northern Beacon	K. D. Campbell	SameStudent's Letter	Millar Memorial Bible Institute	SameListe Loi Lacombe J. C. Lussier	SameListe Actions JudicairesJ. C. Lussier	SameOpen Bible Bulletin	New Brunswick Bible Institute Inc.	SameFull Gospel Bible	Full Gospel Bible Institute	Same
Institute Bulletin
Rivers of Living Water Nipawin Bible Institute	Same
Out of the Storm	The Yonge Street Mission	SameDimes on the March	Rehabilitation Foundation for the Disabled	SameThe New Life	Rev. Dr. and Mrs. Frank Uhlir	SameV.I. Catholic News	Mr. E. J. Flynn	SameDominion Outreach	Pentecostal Assemblies of Canada	SamePhilippines	The Brothers of the Sacred Heart	SameMaritime Messenger	Maritime Christian College	SameLe Nouveau Progres	Le Progres du Comte de Terrebonne Inc.	SameReflection	United Church of Canada	SameOntario Naturalist	Federation of Ontario Naturalists	SameThe Young Naturalist	Federation of Ontario Naturalists	SameThe John Howard Society John Howard Society of B.C.	Same
of B.C. Newsletter
Le Naturaliste	Les Cercles des Jeunes Naturalistes	SameEducational A.B.C.'s of	Educational A.B.C.'s of Canadian Industry	Same
Industry
Canadian Boy	Boy Scouts of Canada	Canyouth
Publications
Ltd.

October 22, 1969
Orders for Returns



BROADCAST BY CBC OF POEM DEDICATED TO CHE GUEVARRA

Mr. Dinsdale: 1.	Was the poem dedicated to Che Guevarra and written by Michele Garnot broadcast by CBC Radio as a part of Sunday Supplement under the title "Che" on July 20, 1969?
2.	Was the same poem featured in Sunday Supplement on January 26, 1969?
3.	If so, what is the reason for this double exposure?


Gérard Pelletier: I am informed by the CBC as follows: 1. A poem entitled "Che", concerning Che Guevara and written by Michel Garneau was broadcast by Sunday Supplement July 20, 1969.
2.	Yes.
3.	Many outstanding items are rebroadcast in order to effect summer budgetary economies. This poem was one of the most favourably received of all the items broadcast in the program since it began in October, 1968.



QUESTIONS PASSED AS ORDERS FOR RETURNS


Mr. Skoberg-Supplementary: 1.	For the fiscal years 1963-64, 1964-65, 1965-66, 1966-67, 1967-68 and 1968-69, what outside consultant studies have been undertaken or are presently in progress sponsored by the following Departments and Agencies (a) Agriculture (b) Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation (c) Consumer and Corporate Affairs (d) Defence Production (e) Energy, Mines and Resources (f) External Affairs (g) Fisheries (h) Forestry and Rural Development (i) Indian Affairs and Northern Development (j) Justice (k) Labour (1) Manpower and Immigration (m) National Defence (n) National Health and Welfare (o) National Revenue (p) Post Office (q) Prime Minister's Office (r) Privy Council Office (s) Secretary of State (t) Solicitor General (u) Trade and Commerce (v) Transport (w) Treasury Board (x) Veterans Affairs?
2.	What was the cost for each outside consultant study prepared for each department and agency and were the contracts from each department or agency awarded by competitive tendering and, if not, for what reason?
Return tabled.


DEPARTMENT OF INDUSTRY, TRADE AND COMMERCE-ASSISTANCE TO GROUPS IN CANADA
Mr. Robinson: 1.	Does the Department of Industry, Trade and Commerce provide subsidies and/or support pro-IMr. KieransJ
Orders for Returns
grams for any segment of the economy, groups or individuals inside Canada and, if so, to what extent, in what amounts, and to whom are the amounts paid?
2.	What amounts have been paid for subsidies and/or support programs during each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
Return tabled.


LEGISLATION-USE OF OUTSIDE ADVISERS
Mr. Lewis: 1.	On which bills introduced or to he introduced in this session has the government organized committees of outside advisors to consult on the bill prior to its introduction in the House?
2.	On which bills introduced or to be introduced were outside experts paid expenses or honoraria or fees for consultations prior to the introduction of said bills in the House?
3.	In each ease, what are the names, addresses and occupations of those consulted?
4.	What was the amount in honoraria, expenses or fees paid to each individual consulted?
Return tabled.


MILITARY AID TO PORTUGAL, THE NETHERLANDS, GREECE
Mr. Lewis: 1.	For each year from 1960 through 1968, what is the amount of military aid supplied to (a) Portugal (b) the Netherlands (c) Greece?
2.	Has the Government of Canada sold, arranged or approved the sale of military materiel to (a) Portugal (b) the Netherlands (c) Greece and, what is the amount of these sales to each country for each year from 1960 to 1968?
Return tabled.


EXPROPRIATIONS OF LAND BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT
Mr. Robinson: 1.	How many acres of land have been expropriated by the federal government during each of the years 1960-68 inclusive in each of the provinces and territories of Canada?
2.	What was the cost of such acquisitions of land in each province and territory of Canada for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
Return tabled.


DEPARTMENT OF SECRETARY OF STATE-PROVISION OF SUBSIDIES
Mr. Robinson: 1.	Does the Department of the Secretary of State provide subsidies and/or support programs for any segment of the economy, groups or individuals inside Canada and, if so, to what extent, in what amounts, and to whom are the amounts paid?
October 22, 1969

2.	What amounts have been paid for subsidies and/or support programs during each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
Return tabled.


DEFENCE RESEARCH BOARD-CONTRACTS AWARDED TO R.C.A. VICTOR
Mr. Broadbeni: 1.	Who are the present members of the Defence Research Board?
2.	What criteria was used in the selection of members of the Board who are not government officials?
3.	Is Mr. J. D. Houlding, President of R.C.A. Victor, a member of the Defence Research Board?
4.	For the fiscal years 1962-3,	1963-4,	1964-5,
1965-6, 1966-7, and 1968-9, how many D.N.D. contracts and the respective expenditures, were undertaken by R.C.A. Victor and for what purposes?
5.	For each of the above contracts, was there any competitive tendering and, if so, what were the names of the tendering firms?
6.	If not, for what reason?


CONTRACTS AWARDED BY DEPARTMENTS OF FORESTRY AND ECONOMIC EXPANSION
Mr. MacDonald (Egmoni): 1.	Since January 1, 1964, what persons have been awarded contracts for consulting or professional services to the Department of Forestry and Rural Development or the Department of Regional Economic Expansion?
2.	(a) What were the purposes of these contracts
(b)	for what length of time were these contracts
(c)	at what cost (d) were some contracts renewed, extended or modified, and (e) which ones?
3.	What contracts are presently in operation and when is it expected they will be completed?
Return tabled.


ANTI-POVERTY PROGRAMS
Mr. MacDonald (Egmoni): 1.	What specific anti-poverty programs have been in effect since 1963?
2.	When were they instituted?
3.	What amount of money was expended?
4.	Who were the senior staff people responsible for these programs?
5.	Have these programs been continued and, if not, for what reason and which ones have been discontinued?
6.	What steps are presently being considered with regard to anti-poverty programs?
Return tabled.
Orders for Returns


INFORMATION SERVICE, DEPARTMENT OF SECRETARY OF STATE
Mr. Robinson: 1.	Does the Department of the Secretary of State provide an information service and, if so, what is the cost for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
2.	How many publications and/or periodicals and/or information sheets and/or public releases were provided by the Department for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive, and what was the cost for each publication for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
3.	How many copies of each publication are provided and to whom are they distributed and how is the distribution effected?
Return tabled.



ATLANTIC PROVINCES


Mr. MacDonald (Egmoni): 1.	What research facilities or activity did the Atlantic Development Board assist in 1963, 1964, 1965, 1966, 1967, 1968 and 1969?
2.	What research facilities or activity has the Department of Regional Economic Expansion assisted or contemplates assisting?
3.	What applications are currently pending for research facilities or assistance in the Atlantic provinces?
Return tabled.



INFORMATION SERVICE-INDUSTRY. TRADE AND COMMERCE

Mr. Robinson: 1.	Does the Department of Industry, Trade and Commerce provide an information service and, if so, what was the cost for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
2.	How many publications and/or periodicals and/or information sheets and/or public releases were provided by the Department for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive, and what was the cost for each publication for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
3.	How many copies of each publication are provided and to whom are they distributed and how is the distribution effected?
Return tabled.



SUMMER EMPLOYMENT OF STUDENTS BY FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

Mr. Robinson: 1.	How many students were employed by the federal government in all departments during the summer months for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?

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2.	How many students will be provided with summer jobs during the year 1969 with all departments of the federal government?
Return tabled.



CANADIAN MEMBERSHIP IN INTERNATIONAL ORGANIZATIONS

[Stage Direction]
Question No. 2,343-Mr. Beaudoin:-Supplementary
1.	What is the number of international organizations to which Canada belongs?
2.	What is the annual cost to Canada for participation in each of these organizations?
Return tabled.

Mr. Burton: 1.	What is the name of each Task Force or body with equivalent status to a Task Force appointed by the government since June 25, 1968?
2.	With respect to each such Task Force or equivalent body (a) on what date was it appointed (b) what is the name of the Chairman and other members (c) what are its terms of reference (d) has it reported to the government and, if so, on what date was the report submitted (e) if the report has been submitted, has it been made public and on what date was it made public?
Return tabled.



INFORMATION SERVICE, DEPARTMENT OF LABOUR

Mr. Robinson: 1 Does the Department of Labour provide an information service and, if so, what was the cost for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
2.	How many publications and/or periodicals and/or information sheets and/or public releases were provided by the Department for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive, and what was the cost for each publication for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
3.	How many copies of each publication are provided and to whom are they distributed and how is the distribution effected?
Return tabled.



TRADE AND COMMERCE ADVISORY GOVERNMENT-INDUSTRY COMMITTEES

Mr. Rose: 1.	What are the terms of reference and functions of each advisory government-industry committee established by the Department of Industry, Trade and Commerce?
2.	Who are the members of each advisory committee and what criteria was used in the selection of each member of the respective committee?
Return tabled.
[Mr. Robinson.!



CANADA LABOUR CODE-REQUESTS FOR DELAY IN IMPLEMENTATION

Mr. Dionne: 1.	What Canadian employers have requested a delay in implementation of the Canada Labour Code as it affects their enterprises?
2.	What reasons have such employers advanced in support of their requests for extensions of the time allowed for implementation?
3.	Have all such requests been granted?
4.	If not, what are the names of the employers whose requests have been refused?
Return tabled.



COST OF FRED PROGRAMS

Mr. MacDonald (Egmonl): 1.	What FRED programs are presently in effect?
2.	When was each agreement signed?
3.	What is the general purpose in terms of each plan?
4.	Over what period of time will they be in effect?
5.	What amount of federal money is committed?
6.	What amount of provincial money is committed?
7.	When will each of these plans be up for renegotiation?
8.	How much has already been expended by the federal government and by provincial governments?
9.	What machinery exists for evaluating the effectiveness of the various FRED programs?
Return tabled.



SHARED-COST PROGRAMS

Mr. Robinson: 1.	How many shared-cost programs does the federal government contribute to with the provinces?
2.	When did the shared-cost programs start?
3.	How much has been paid per year under shared-cost programs since the inception of each program?
4.	What is the total estimated federal contribution to shared-cost programs for 1969, 1970, 1971, 1972 and 1973?
Return tabled.



AREA DEVELOPMENT AGENCY

Mr. Yewchuk: 1.	(a) How much money has been spent on and by the Area Development Agency to date (b) how many new jobs were created as a result of aid by the Agency (c) what was the average salary of the jobs created (d) what are the present positions of the senior officers of the Agency, as well as their salaries, both present and while they were with the Agency?
2.	(a) Which firms received aid from the Area Development Agency (b) how much financial aid was received by each (c) how many new jobs were created by each?
Return tabled.
October 22, 1969



CROWN CORPORATIONS-NUMBER AND COST

Mr. Robinson: 1.	How many Crown corporations are there in Canada?
2.	How many of them have a monopoly?
3.	How many are self-supporting?
4 What was the subsidy, if any, paid to each Crown corporation during each of the years 1960 to 1968 inclusive?
Return tabled.



CONSULTANT FIRMS-NUMBER AND COST OF THOSE RETAINED

Mr. Fortin: 1.	During each of the last three years, which management consultant firms were retained by the government or its agencies?
2.	What were the terms of reference of each of these firms and what was the remuneration in each case?
3.	Of these management consultant firms retained during the past three years, which were American owned; and does the government give preference to Canadian firms and, if so, in what manner?
4.	What was the duration of each of the contracts awarded to each such firm?



ADJUSTMENT ASSISTANCE BOARD-NAMES OF FIRMS ASSISTED

Mrs. Maclnnis: 1.	At what date was the Adjustment Assistance Board created to provide federal financing for the automotive industry?
2.	Who have been the members of that Board?
3.	Which firms have obtained financial assistance from the Board and on what terms?
4.	Which firms were in default on their income tax payments for 1968 to the collective amount of over $80 million?
5.	Have any of these defaulting firms been granted assistance for 1969 and, if so, which and in what amounts?



INFORMATION SERVICE-DEPARTMENT OF VETERANS AFFAIRS

Mr. Robinson: 1. Does the Department of Veterans Affairs provide an information service and, if so, what was the cost for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
2 How many publications and/or periodicals and/or information sheets and/or public releases were provided by the Department for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive and what was the cost for each publication for each of the years 1960-68 inclusive?
3.	How many copies of each publication are provided and to whom are they distributed and how is the distribution effected?
Return tabled.
Orders for Returns



INTERNATIONAL EXPOSITIONS-CANADIAN PARTICIPATION

Mr. Robinson: What international expositions or exhibitions does Canada enter yearly, including trade fairs and where is each located and what is the cost to the government for each such exhibition, exposition or trade fair?
Return tabled.



POST OFFICE-APPLICATIONS FOR SECOND CLASS MAILING PRIVILEGES

Mr. Baldwin: 1.	How many applications for second-class mailing privileges have been received by the Postmaster General?
2.	(a) How many such applications have been rejected or denied (b) who or what are they?
3.	Have the $15 fees accompanying the rejected applications been retained in all cases?
4.	(a) Have refunds been made in some cases (b) if so, for what reason?
Return tabled.



INDIAN AFFAIRS-TECHNICAL SERVICES BRANCH

Mr. Orlikow: With reference to the information contained in the reply to Question No. 1,984 (May 7, 1969) Sections 2-(a) and 2-(c), the following additional facts are sought (a) what is the age of Mr. E. W. Wallace; what degrees, if any; what diplomas, if any, does he hold from recognized universities; when were these obtained; what positions (including where and for how long) has Mr. Wallace held in the USA and in other countries (b) was Mr. Wallace the first or original American citizen among the six of eleven professional people in the Physical Planning Division (c) what was the date on which each of these Americans were hired by the government (d) what are the names, ages, degrees held, diplomas held, teaching posts held, working posts held, and present classification rating of the other five Americans in this Division (e) are there any reasons for such a concentration of Americans in one specific area of employment in view of the fact that as of 1969 there is an opportunity to hire Canadians trained in landscape architecture in Canada?
Return tabled.



NUMBER AND COST OF AIRCRAFT AVAILABLE TO CABINET MINISTERS

Mr. Coales: 1.	How many aircraft are presently available to the Prime Minister and members of his Cabinet, what types of aircraft are a part of this fleet, what was the total mileage logged in the last fiscal year and what was the expenditure for maintaining and operating these aircraft in the last fiscal year?
2.	How many trips have been undertaken by these aircraft in the present fiscal year to date, what has been the total mileage logged to date.
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how many times has the Prime Minister used the aircraft in the present fiscal year and what has been the total mileage?
3.	How many Cabinet Ministers have made use of the aircraft in the present fiscal year, what are the names of the Ministers, how many times has each used the aircraft and what was the destination of the Minister in each instance?
4 Has the Prime Minister or any of the members of his cabinet used any of the government aircraft at any time for personal reasons and, if so, what ministers and on what dates and in each instance, what was the destination of the aircraft and the estimated cost in each case?
Return tabled.



OFFICIAL LANGUAGES BILL-SUBMISSIONS IN OPPOSITION

Mr. Coates: How many submissions were received by the Prime Minister and/or the Secretary of State, in opposition to Bill C-120 and what were the names of the individuals or organizations who presented the submissions in question?
Return tabled.



APPOINTMENTS TO COURTS, 1960-69

Mr. Robinson: 1.	How many appointments have been made to the Supreme Court of Canada in each of the years 1960 to 1969 inclusive and from which province did each come?
2.	How many appointments have been made to each county and superior court of each province for each of the years 1960-69 inclusive?
3.	Were any appointments to the county and/or Supreme Court of any province appointed from outside that province and, if so, from what province was the appointment made?
Return tabled.



HUMBER-ST. GEORGE'S-ST. BARBE- PUBLIC WORKS

Mr. Marshall: 1.	What projects are being undertaken by the Department of Public Works in the District of Humber-St. George's-St. Barbe and what are the projects (a) being investigated (b) approved (c) for which are tenders being prepared (d) for which tenders have been accepted, who are the successful tenderers and the amounts?
2.	What are the expected completion dates of approved projects?
Return tabled.



PUBLICATIONS-LANGUAGES OF PRINTING

Mr. Robinson: 1. In how many different languages and in what different languages are government and/or departmental publications printed?

2.	What is the cost of translating the publications into languages other than French or English?
3.	Where are the translated publications circulated and for what purpose?
Return tabled.



SPACE PROGRAMS-UTILIZATION OF CANADIAN SCIENTISTS

Mr. Beaudoin: 1.	Since 1960, and for each of the subsequent years, how many Canadian Scientists immigrated to the United States to work for the American Government in the development of space programs?
2.	Since 1960, and for each of the subsequent years, how many Canadian Scientists were working for Canadian corporations whose operations are related to American space programs?
3.	How many Canadian Scientists are working in space research for the Canadian Government in conjunction with American space program authorities?
4.	Have Canadian Scientists made any discoveries which would contribute to the development of American space programs (a) in the United States (b) in Canada.
Return tabled.



PURCHASE OF CLEANING SUPPLIES FOR EASTERN TOWNSHIPS POST OFFICES

Mr. Rondeau: From which retail or other companies does the Department of Supply and Services, acting on behalf of the Public Works and Post Office Departments, "purchase cleaning and maintenance supplies for post offices in the Bois-Francs, Eastern Townships and Montreal areas, and what procedure does it follow in selecting such suppliers?
Return tabled.



STUDY OR INVESTIGATING BOARDS APPOINTED SINCE 1950

Mr. Dionne: 1.	How many study or investigating boards and commissions were appointed by the Canadian Government since 1950?
2.	(a) What was the cost of each such commission (b) what were these commissions and what were the names of the members of each?
Return tabled.



NATIONAL FILM BOARD-TRANSLATION OF AND REMUNERATION FROM FILMS

Mr. Robinson: 1.	Does the federal government provide a translation service for documentary films produced by the National Film Board?
2.	In what countries are National Film Board films shown?
October 22, 1969

3.	What remuneration was received from the showing of National Film Board films outside Canada in each of the years 1960 to 1968 inclusive, in (a) USA (b) United Kingdom (c) France (d) other English-speaking countries (e) other Frenchspeaking countries (f) other countries?
Return tabled.



CANADIAN COMMERCIAL CORPORATION-MILITARY AND NON-MILITARY SALES

Mr. Nystrom: 1.	With reference to the answer to Question No. 2,375, by country, what was the value of nonmilitary sales in which the Canadian Commercial Corporation was involved for the years 1965, 1966, 1967 and 1968?
2.	What was the value of military sales, by country, in which the Corporation was involved during 1966?
3.	What types of weapons and what quantities were involved in the sales to the Netherlands and to West Germany for each of the years 1965, 1966, 1967 and 1968?
4.	If Portugal was a purchaser operating through the Corporation for any of the years above of either military or non-military material, what specific commodities were involved and in what quantity?
Return tabled.



DIVORCE ACT PETITIONS

Mr. McCleave: 1.	How many divorce petitions presented in the first six months under the new Divorce Act have been decided, by province?
2.	How many petitions were presented in the first year under the new Divorce Act, by province?
3.	What grounds were alleged in the petitions presented during the first year, by province?
Return tabled.



W. S. MARTIN-POSITION HELD AND GRIEVANCES ADJUDICATED

Mr. Macquarrie: 1.	(a) When was W. S. Martin appointed Chief Adjudicator for the Public Service Staff Relations Board (b) when did his term as Chief Adjudicator end?
2.	What position does W. S. Martin now hold with the Public Service Staff Relations Board?
3.	(a) In what capacity did W. S. Martin adjudicate the grievances of The Council of Postal Unions against the Treasury Board (b) when did W. S. Martin complete work on this adjudication report (c) when was the report submitted to the Public Service Staff Relations Board?
4.	What is signified by "date of decision" as used on the cover page of this report?
5.	In what capacity did W. S. Martin adjudicate the grievances of A. Southern against Treasury Board and the grievances of Gomez, Coppock, Levins, Beauchamp, Levesque against Treasury Board?
6.	When was work completed on each of these reports and when did W. S. Martin submit each of these reports to the PSSRB?
Return tabled.
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Hon. Donald S. Macdonald (President of the Privy Council):: Mr. Speaker, it is my understanding that the members who have posed the remaining questions on the order paper have either indicated their wish that they be withdrawn or have agreed to do so.


Mr. Speaker:: It is my understanding that questions 1,706, 2,057, 2,568, 2,575, 2,668, 2,690 and 2,718 are to be withdrawn. Is this agreed?


Some hon. Members:: Agreed.



MOTIONS FOR PAPERS

Donald Stovel Macdonald: Mr. Speaker, notices of motions for the production of papers Nos. 179, 203, 217, 225, 254, 264, 266, 268, and 269 are acceptable to the government.


Mr. Speaker:: Is it the pleasure of the House that notices of motion Nos. 179, 203, 217, 225, 254, 264, 266, 268 and 269 be deemed to have been adopted?


Some hon. Members:: Agreed.



CANADA ASSISTANCE PLAN APPEAL PROCEDURES

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 179-Mr. Orlikow:
That an Order of the House do issue for copies of all appeal procedures established by the Provinces made pursuant to the Canada Assistance Plan.
Motion agreed to.

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Motion No. 203-Mr. Broadbent:
That an Order of the House do issue for copies of the studies referred to by the Department of Regional Economic Expansion in their submission to the Senate Special Committee on Science Policy, Wednesday, April 23, 1969, appearing on pages 4929-4932 and pages 5003-5008, of the Committee Proceedings.
Motion agreed to.

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Motion No. 217-Mr. Rose:
That an Order of the House do issue for copies of all correspondence between the Government of Canada and Wesfrod Mines Limited regarding the dumping of cobbling plant reject and mill tailings in Tasu Sound, adjacent to Moresby Island, Queen Charlotte District, B.C.
Motion agreed to.
[Stage Direction]
October 22, 1969
Motions for Papers

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 225-Mr. Gilbert:
That an Order of the House do issue for copies of all correspondence between Levy Industries Limited and the Government of Canada regarding the sale of lands in the Borough of York, Ontario.
Motion agreed to.

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 254-Mr. Macquarrie:
That an Order of the House do issue for plans of frequencies and locations of installations for use of Telesat Canada referred to on pp. 161-162 of the Proceedings of the Standing Senate Committee on Transport and Communications.
Motion agreed to.

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 263-Mr. Orlikow:
That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he will cause to be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence between the Department of Consumer and Corporate Affairs and provincial governments regarding the subject of drug prices.
Donald Stovel Macdonald: Mr. Speaker, notice of motion No. 263 is acceptable to the government subject to the usual reservations concerning confidential documents and to the authorization of the government authorities concerned.


Mr. Speaker:: Subject to the conditions mentioned by the minister, is it the pleasure of the house to adopt motion No. 263?


Some hon. Members:: Agreed.


[Stage Direction]
Motion agreed to.

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Motion No. 264-Mr. Harding:
That an Order of the House do issue for a copy of the investigation report on the dumping of 150,000 gallons of acid into Hamilton Bay by the Steel Company of Canada mentioned by the Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Energy, Mines and Resources as reported in Hansard, July 15, 1969 on page 11269.
Motion agreed to.

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 266-Mr. Orlikow:
That an Order of the House do issue for a copy of the Order-in-Council passed during June 1969, under the Financial Administration Act, the loan of one CL-41 Tutor Aircraft and one CF-104 Star-fighter to Canadair for Aerospace Exhibits Limited.
Motion agreed to.
[Mr. Rose.l

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Motion No. 268-Mr. Nystrom:
That an Order of the House do issue for copies of the Canadian Government's statement of disapproval of Portuguese policy in Angola and Mozambique referred to in the answer to Question No. 2,599.
Motion agreed to.

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Motion No. 269-Mr. Orlikow:
That an Order of the House do issue for a copy of the Order-in-Couneil passed during June 1969, authorizing C. L. Caccia, M.P. to visit Sweden to study their manpower policies.
Motion agreed to.
Donald Stovel Macdonald: Mr. Speaker, would you be so kind as to call notices of motions Nos.	139,	152,	176,	178,	189,	197,	200,201,	204,	221,	222,	227,	228,	230,	231,	232,	233,234,	235,	236,	237,	238,	239,	240,	241,	242,	243,244,	245,	246,	247,	248,	249,	250,	251,	252,	253,258,	259,	260,	261,	262	and	270?



SUMMER EMPLOYMENT OF STUDENTS

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Motion No. 139-Mr. Broadbeni:
That an Order of the House do issue for a copy of the Cabinet Directive on summer employment for students referred to by the Minister of Manpower and Immigration in his Press Release of April 30, 1969.
James Edgar Walker: Mr. Speaker, a cabinet directive is a cabinet document. It has always been the position of this House that cabinet documents would not be included among those documents covered by motions for the production of papers. I would hope, therefore, that the hon. member would be agreeable to withdrawing the motion.


Mr. J. Edward Broadbeni (Oshawa-Whii-by):: I do not agree to such a decision, Mr. Speaker, but I will carry this motion over to the next session.


Mr. Speaker:: Dropped.
Order discharged and motion withdrawn.



REPORTS FROM MRS. CLAIRE CULHANE

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Motion No. 152-Mr. MacDonald (Egmoni):
That an Order of the House do issue for a copy of all correspondence and reports with the Prime Minister, Secretary of State for External Affairs and the Canadian International Development Agency from Mrs. Claire Culhane with respect to her observations concerning Canada's involvement in foreign aid to Vietnam.
October 22, 1969
Mitchell William Sharp: Mr. Speaker, some of the correspondence referred to I believe has been shown to the hon. member, and 1 am not quite certain whether he is prepared to withdraw his motion.


Mr. David MacDonald (Egmont):: Mr. Speaker, I have had no documentation shown to me yet by the officials that would persuade me that this motion should not go forward, but in view of the fact that this is the last day of this session I am prepared to bring it on again at the earliest possible moment in the next session.
[DOT] (2:40 p.m.)



PUBLIC WORKS OUTSIDE CONSULTANT STUDIES

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Motion No. 176-Mr. Skoberg:
That an Order of the House do issue for copies of all agreements and arrangements on consultant fees negotiated between the Government of Canada and the Royal Architectural Institute of Canada and provincial associations of the Professional Engineers of Canada as mentioned in reply to Question No. 1,256, Tabled on May 14, 1969.
Arthur Laing: Mr. Speaker, the arrangement to which this motion makes reference has to do with an undertaking on the part of my department to adhere substantially to provincial professional fees. The agreement to do so was made verbally. There is no written agreement whatsoever and I therefore ask the hon. member if he would consent to withdrawing this motion.


Mr. John L. Skoberg (Moose Jaw):: Mr. Speaker, I cannot agree. Therefore I will raise this matter again in the next session.


Mr. Speaker:: Order, please. We must
assume that the motion has been dropped.
Order discharged and motion withdrawn.



QUEEN ELIZABETH II TELESCOPE

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Motion No. 178-Mr. Orlikow:
That an Order of the House do issue for a copy of the Committee Report, headed by Dr. D. C. Rose, on the Queen Elizabeth II telescope, presented to the government In August, 1968.
James Edgar Walker: Mr. Speaker, the Rose report is a confidential report sponsored by the Science Secretariat, in its role as part of the Privy Council Office, at the request of the government. It is under active study at the present time and consideration will be given
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to making the report public at a later date. In these circumstances I wonder if the hon. member would withdraw his motion?


Mr. David Orlikow (Winnipeg North):: Mr. Speaker, since today is the last day of the present session I agree to having the motion withdrawn. May I tell the Parliamentary Secretary that I will re-introduce my motion early next week since I do not believe the government has the right to keep such reports confidential.


Mr. Speaker:: Order, please. The motion is dropped.
Order discharged and motion withdrawn.



REPORT ON PENSIONS OF RETIRED PUBLIC SERVANTS

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 189-Mr. Knowles (Winnipeg
North Centre):
That an Order of the House do issue for a copy of the report of the special committee on increasing the pensions of retired public servants referred to by the President of the Treasury Board in his speech on May 8, 1969, to the Canadian Pension Conference, and noted in Hansard on May 16, 1969, at page 8782.
James Edgar Walker: Mr. Speaker, as was indicated by the President of the Treasury Board on May 8, the report of the special committee referred to in his speech deals with costs and benefits involved in the whole of the social security system, including the issue of pensions of retired public servants. This report forms the basis of reappraisal of government policy in this area and as such it is part of the internal function of government and not in the public interest to be released.


Some hon. Members:: Oh, oh.


James Edgar Walker: In view of this, perhaps the hon. member would be agreeable to withdrawing his motion.


Mr. Stanley Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):: Mr. Speaker, because I believe it to be in the public interest to have this report I shall introduce this motion again in the new session.
Order discharged and motion withdrawn.



CORRESPONDENCE RESPECTING POLLUTION AT LONG HARBOUR

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 197-Mr. Harding:
That an Order of the House do issue for copies of all correspondence between the Department of Fisheries and Dr. L. Dickie of the Bedford Institute of Oceanography regarding potential pollution of Long Harbour, Newfoundland.
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Mr, Stanley Knowles (Winnipeg North Centre):: Mr. Speaker, may I move this order on behalf of the hon. member for Kootenay West.


Eugene Whelan: Mr. Speaker, there is no correspondence on file between the Department of Fisheries and Dr. L. Dickie. In view of this fact it would be a nil return and I wonder if the hon. member would, therefore, be prepared to withdraw his motion?


Stanley Howard Knowles: Agreed.
Order discharged and motion withdrawn.



REPORT BY DR. R. W. TRITES RESPECTING LONG HARBOUR AREA

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 200-Mr. Harding:
That an Order of the House do issue for a copy of the report by Dr. R. W. Trites of the Bedford Institute of Oceanography for the Department of Fisheries regarding the Long Harbour area, Newfoundland.
Stanley Howard Knowles: Mr. Speaker, I move this motion on behalf of the hon. member for Kootenay West.


Eugene Whelan: Mr. Speaker, the report referred to in this motion is an internal working paper prepared by a member of the staff for use by department officers. Such documents are traditionally privileged and not tabled. I would therefore ask the hon. member to withdraw his motion.


Stanley Howard Knowles: Mr. Speaker, I believe the hon. member for Kootenay West would like to introduce this motion again in the next session.


Mr. Speaker:: The motion is dropped. Order discharged and motion withdrawn.



CORRESPONDENCE RESPECTING POLLUTION OF B.C. WATERS

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 201-Mr. Rose:
That an Order of the House do issue for copies of all correspondence between the Department of Fisheries and Forestry and pulp mills in British Columbia regarding the pollution of B.C. waters and the pollution guidelines of the Department.
Eugene Whelan: Mr. Speaker, it is the view of the government that the tabling of this correspondence would seri-
ously affect the confidence and effective relationships between the department and the companies in question. Frank discussions between the parties would be inhibited and the successful relationships established between the department and the pulp mills seriously hampered. In view of this fact we should like to request that the motion be withdrawn.


Mr. Mark Rose (Fraser Valley West):: Mr. Speaker, I find the grounds for refusal unacceptable in view of the minister's recent statement supporting greater access to public information.


Mr. Speaker:: Order, please. Motion No. 201 is dropped.
Order discharged and motion withdrawn.



CORRESPONDENCE RESPECTING ELECTRIC REDUCTION COMPANY PLANT

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 204-Mr. Carter:
That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he will cause to be laid before this House a copy of all correspondence exchanged between the Government of Canada or any of its representatives and the Government of the Province of Newfoundland, the Bedford Institute of Oceanography and the Electric Reduction Company relating to the establishment of the Electric Reduction Company's Plant in Long Harbour, Newfoundland.
Eugene Whelan: Mr. Speaker, the correspondence requested in this motion which can be produced has already been approved by the acceptance of motions Nos. 198 and 199. In view of this fact I would suggest that the hon. member may wish to withdraw his motion.


Mr. Walter C. Carter (St. John's West):: Withdrawn, Mr. Speaker.
Order discharged and motion withdrawn.



TECHNOLOGICAL CHANGE IN UNDERDEVELOPED AREAS

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 221-Mr. Broadbent:
That an Order of the House do issue for copies of all studies or reports, etc., undertaken by the Department of Regional Economic Expansion regarding the subject of the effects of technological change in less developed areas of Canada.
Mr. Martin P. O'Connell (Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of Regional Economic Expansion):: Mr. Speaker, the Department of Regional Economic Expansion has not undertaken any studies such as are requested by the hon. member.
October 22, 1969


Mr. Speaker:: Is the motion dropped?


Some hon. Members:: Agreed.
Order discharged and motion withdrawn.



GROWTH CENTRES IN UNDERDEVELOPED AREAS

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 222-Mr. Broadbent:
That an Order of the House do issue for copies of all studies or reports, etc., undertaken by the Department of Regional Economic Expansion regarding the subject of growth centers in less developed areas of Canada.
Abram Ernest Epp: Mr. Speaker, the answer to this motion is the same as the one for the previous motion.


John Edward Broadbent: So is mine, Mr. Speaker.


Mr. Speaker:: Order, please. This motion is also dropped.
Order discharged and motion withdrawn.



WINNIPEG-DISPOSITION OF AIR CANADA OVERHAUL BASE

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 227-Mr. Orlikow:
That an Order of the House do issue for a copy of the Contract or Agreement between Air Canada and Northwest Industries, regarding disposition of the Air Canada Overhaul Base in Winnipeg, including the contract showing purchase price, agreement as to future employment of present Air Canada employees, etc.
Donald Campbell Jamieson: Mr. Speaker, Air Canada reports to me that the agreements and contracts between Air Canada and CAE Aircraft Limited are considered to be proprietary documents between two commercial corporations and therefore should not be released.
In answer to the motion I would be pleased to file a short listing provided by Air Canada containing a summary of the provisions for the employees, both permanent and temporary, together with other pertinent information, if it is agreeable to the hon. member for Winnipeg North.


David Orlikow: Mr. Speaker, I will accept that for now but I give notice that I will introduce a similar motion early in the next session.


Mr. Speaker:: Subject to the conditions and reservations expressed by the minister is it agreed that motion No. 227 be deemed to have been adopted?
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Some hon. Members:: Agreed.


[Stage Direction]
Motion agreed to.

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 228-Mr. Orlikow:
That an Order of the House do issue for a copy of the cost-benefit study on rainbow trout farming referred to by the Minister of Fisheries and Forestry in the June 23 press release of the Fisheries Research Board of Canada.
Eugene Whelan: Mr. Speaker, notes prepared for the use of the Minister of Fisheries and Forestry when announcing the construction of the new Freshwater Research Institute in Winnipeg on June 23, 1969, referred to "other possible methods of commercial trout rearing" which "justify experimentation." To date no cost-benefit analysis of these alternative fisheries has been completed. Since there is no conclusive study or final report available on these "other possible methods of commercial trout rearing", the hon. member may wish to withdraw his motion.


Mr. Speaker:: The motion is dropped.
Order discharged and motion withdrawn.



REVIEW OF CANADA-U.S. AUTOMOTIVE PACT

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 230-Mr. Broadbent:
That an Order of the House do issue for a copy of the review at the end of 1968 of the Canada-U.S. Automotive Pact referred to by the Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce in his statement before the Standing Committee on Public Accounts on June 17, 1969.
Donald Stovel Macdonald: Mr. Speaker, I am advised that only one paper in the form of a press release was prepared as a result of the review referred to in this motion. This paper, outlining the results of the review, was tabled on September 16, 1968, and I would refer the hon. member to pages 39 and 40 of the House of Commons Debates. In light of this I wonder if the hon. member would be agreeable to withdrawing his motion.


John Edward Broadbent: Agreed, Mr. Speaker.
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Motion No. 231-Mr. Orlikow:
That an humble Address be presented to His Excellency praying that he will cause to be laid

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before this House a copy of all correspondence between the Government of Canada and the Government of the United States regarding the Iron Ore Company of Canada and its parent company Hanna Mining Company of Cleveland.


Mitchell William Sharp: Mr. Speaker, when the hon. member for Winnipeg North first raised this matter it was an oral question that was directed, I believe, to the Minister of Finance. Your Honour suggested that the hon. member should put it on the order paper. On that there now appears a notice of motion for the production of papers which involves correspondence between the Canadian government and the United States government. It would have been possible to answer the original question but I now have to obtain the acquiescence of the United States government, and that is being sought.


Mr. Speaker:: Will the hon. member agree that the motion might be dropped for the time being.


David Orlikow: Agreed.
Order discharged and motion withdrawn.



FEDERAL WORKING PAPER ON REGIONAL DISPARITY

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 232-Mr. Broadbenl:
That an Order of the House do issue for a copy of the federal government's working paper dealing with constitutional aspects of regional disparities in Canada presented at the recent federal-provincial constitutional conference in June 1969.
Donald Stovel Macdonald: Mr. Speaker, I am advised that the paper to which the motion refers was in the nature of a preliminary consideration of some aspects only of the subject of regional disparities and reviewed certain positions of the federal government which have been revealed in white papers published on the occasion of the several Constitutional Conferences. The government's over-all approach to the subject of regional disparities is still being examined and will be discussed in the future with the provinces. For that reason it would not be helpful nor proper to table at this time the preliminary statement made at the private session of the Constitutional Conference in June, and I would ask that the hon. member withdraw his motion under these circumstances.


John Edward Broadbent: Agreed, Mr. Speaker. I look forward to the final statement.
Order discharged and motion withdrawn.



PRIME MINISTER-SCIENCE COUNCIL CORRESPONDENCE

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 233-Mr. Broadbenl:
That an Order of the House do issue for a copy of the November 4, 1968 letter by the Prime Minister of Canada to the Chairman of the Science Council of Canada as mentioned in the Third Annual Report of the Science Council.
Donald Stovel Macdonald: Mr. Speaker, the letter from the Prime Minister to the chairman of the Science Council of Canada is part of the internal functions of the government and not in the public interest to be released. In view of the long established principle of the House that such documents are privileged, perhaps the hon. member would be agreeable to withdrawing his motion.
[DOT] (2:50 p.m.)


John Edward Broadbent: Agreed today, but this matter will be raised again next week.



CONSUMER AND CORPORATE AFFAIRS CONSULTANT STUDIES

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 234-Mr. Skoberg:
That an order of the House do issue for copies of all outside consultant studies undertaken for the Department of Consumer and Corporate Affairs as mentioned in answer to Question No. 1,323, tabled on June 25, 1969, as reported in Hansard on page 10597.
Donald Stovel Macdonald: Mr. Speaker, this notice of motion for the production of papers and the 18 which follow are all related to a number of consultants studies which were identified in an Order for Return tabled in response to a question. To grant this motion and the other 18 motions would involve the tabling of 1,188 consultant studies, or literally thousands of pages of documents. In the circumstances I wonder whether the hon. member would be prepared to withdraw his motions and be prepared in the new session to indicate the specific reports he would like to see. We could then consider whether they could be tabled.


John Leroy Skoberg: I am sure we would not want the individual reports as such to be tabled, but we must have the reports which are available to the public. I deplore this type of governmental secrecy and ask Your Honour to put this notice of motion to the vote.



CONSULTANT STUDIES


[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 235-Mr. Skoberg:
That an order of the House do issue for copies of all outside consultant studies undertaken for the Department of Agriculture as mentioned in answer to question No. 1,323, tabled on June 25, 1969, as reported in Hansard on page 10597.
Messrs:
Deakon
Laflamme
Laing
Lang
Langlois
Leblanc (Laurier) LeBlanc (Rimouskl) Lefebvre Lessard (LaSalle)
Lind
Loiselle
Macdonald (Rosedale)
MacGuigan
Mackasey
McBride
Mcllraith
McNulty
Major
Marceau
Marchand (Langelier) Marchand (Kamloops-Cariboo)
Moris on Munro Murphy Noel
O'Connell
Olson
Orange
Osier
Otto
Donald Stovel Macdonald: Mr. Speaker, this motion and the succeeding 17 relate to the 1,184 remaining consultant studies. In the light of the decision which has just been taken, might we have agreement that these 18 motions be dropped?


John Leroy Skoberg: Mr. Speaker, this is a small price to pay for democracy, but in view of the time element today I agree to drop these motions and re-introduce them during the next session of parliament.


Mr. Speaker:: Motions 235 to 262 inclusive are dropped.


Stanley Howard Knowles: Mr. Speaker, you just mentioned going as far as motion No. 262. Are there not some motions other than those of the hon. member for Moose Jaw which should be called, for example, 258, 259, 260 and 261? With respect, I think Your Honour went too far when you went to 262.

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Motions for Papers Mr. Speaker: I will now call No. 261.


Stanley Howard Knowles: move it on behalf of the hon. member for Kootenay West (Mr. Harding).



NORTH AMERICAN WATER AND POWER ALLIANCE

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 261-Mr. Harding:
That an Order of the House do issue for a copy of all studies, briefs and correspondence submitted to or prepared by the Government of Canada in relation to North American Water and Power Alliance (NAWAPA).
Mr. R. J. Orange (Parliamentary Secretary to Minister of Energy, Mines and Resources):: Mr. Speaker, I am informed there are no studies or briefs and there is no correspondence relating to North American Water and Power Alliance. Under the circumstances, I would ask the hon. member to withdraw the motion.


Stanley Howard Knowles: I guess I have no alternative.
Order discharged and motion withdrawn.



NEWFOUNDLAND-REGIONAL ECONOMIC EXPANSION STUDIES

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 258-Mr. Marshall:
That an Order of the House do issue for copies of all studies and reports, etc., undertaken by the Department of Regional Economic Expansion regarding the Province of Newfoundland.
Robert John (Bud) Orange: Mr. Speaker, the Department of Regional Economic Expansion has not undertaken any studies such as are requested by the hon. member.
Order discharged and motion withdrawn.



ARMED FORCES VOTERS, HUMBER-ST. GEORGE'S-ST. BARBE

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 259-Mr. Marshall:
That an Order of the House do issue for a list of the names of all members of the Canadian Armed Forces who were entitled to vote in the Armed Forces Vote for nominated candidates for the District of Humber-St. George's-St. Barbe during the Federal Election of June 25, 1968; the present military address of these personnel and the listed Newfoundland address of these personnel.
Donald Stovel Macdonald: Mr. Speaker, I am
informed by the Minister of National Defence (Mr. Cadieux) that a list of the type referred to by the hon. member for Humber-St. George's-St. Barbe in this motion is not 
required under the Canadian Forces Voting Rules, Schedule II to the Canada Elections Act. Lists are only prepared and provided where authorized by virtue of the Canadian Forces Voting Rules. Under these circumstances, it is requested that the hon. member withdraw his motion.
Order discharged and motion withdrawn.



WATER DIVERSION STUDY, NORTHWESTERN ONTARIO

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 260-Mr. Harding:
That an Order of the House do issue for copies of the study "A Proposed Water Diversion Program out of North Western Ontario into Lake Superior" dated June 25, 1964, and all the progress reports which have followed this study.
Robert John (Bud) Orange: Mr. Speaker, in response to the request contained in the hon. member's motion, I must advise that the June 25, 1964 report to which he refers does not appear to be available in the department. If the hon. member could advise what agency prepared this report I shall endeavour to have a copy obtained for further consideration of his request.
With regard to the progress reports which the hon. member has requested, I do not consider it would be in the public interest to table these at this time. They simply report progress achieved on certain elements of this co-ordinated investigation and study. Some of these elements could be misinterpreted if they were considered separately, without regard to the over-all scope of the study-


Mr. Speaker:: Order, please. I suggest to the hon. parliamentary secretary that the statement he is making now should not be in the form of an answer to the motion proposed by the hon. member. He should indicate as briefly as possible, on behalf of the government, whether he is prepared to answer the motion or whether he wishes it dropped.


Robert John (Bud) Orange: Mr. Speaker, I accept your ruling. In the light of what I have said, I would ask the hon. member if he is prepared to withdraw his motion at this time.


Stanley Howard Knowles: Mr. Speaker, I will draw the remarks of the parliamentary secretary to the attention of the hon. member for Kootenay West (Mr. Harding) when he returns from the NATO parliamentary conference at Brussels.


Mr. Speaker:: I declare the motion dropped.
Order discharged and motion withdrawn.
October 22, 1969



NORTHERN CANADA TOUR BY UNITED STATES GROUP

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 262-Mr. Harding:
That an Order of the House do issue for a copy of ail correspondence, or memoranda in relation to the tour of Northern Canada by a group of sixty-eight Americans including Senator Frank Moss in the month of June, 1969.
Donald Stovel Macdonald: Mr. Speaker, I am
informed that a search of departmental files has revealed that there exists no correspondence within the purview of this motion. The motion is, therefore, not acceptable to the government and it is hoped that the hon. member might wish to withdraw his motion.


Stanley Howard Knowles: Agreed.
Order discharged and motion withdrawn.



COMBINES-EXCLUSION OF SERVICE INDUSTRIES FROM ACT

[Stage Direction]
Motion No. 270-Mr. Orlikow:
That an Order of the House do issue for a copy of the study undertaken by the Combines Investigation Branch and forwarded to the Economic Council regarding the implications of the exclusion of service industries from the Combines Investigation Act.
Stanley Ronald Basford: Mr. Speaker, the study referred to in this motion was prepared for internal use in the department and was passed to the staff of the Economic Council of Canada to assist the Council in the reference by the government to the Council for a report on competition policy. It is considered to be a privileged document and in view of this I would ask the hon. member to withdraw his motion.
Order discharged and motion withdrawn.


Donald Stovel Macdonald: Mr. Speaker, I would ask that the remaining motions, if any, be stood.



ORAL QUESTION PERIOD


Robert Lorne Stanfield: Mr. Speaker, I should like to direct a question to the Minister of National Health and Welfare. Has the government decided to take any immediate action to relate old age security and other pension payments more appropriately to the real increase
Inquiries of the Ministry in the cost of living which has been at the rate of about 5 per cent for the past several years and which has increased already this year by 3.5 per cent?


John Carr Munro: No immediate action is contemplated.


Robert Lorne Stanfield: Is the government reconsidering the 2 per cent ceiling on cost of living adjustments under the Canada Pension Plan and the Old Age Security Act? If so, when may we expect a decision to be made with regard to these matters in view of the fact that pensioners who depend on this income seem to be steadily losing ground in competition with the cost of living.


John Carr Munro: Mr. Speaker, as the hon. Leader of the Opposition knows, this is part and parcel of the over-all review of which he is aware. When the government has come to a decision on policy matters of this kind it will be announced in the house.


Robert Lorne Stanfield: I have one further supplementary question. Does the hon. minister think these people can exist on government reviews?


Mr. Speaker:: Order, please. The question is argumentative.


Stanley Howard Knowles: May I ask a supplementary question, Mr. Speaker, and I wonder if I may address it to the Prune Minister. In view of the problems facing all our older and retired people, the old age pensioners, the retired civil servants, veterans on the war veterans allowance and so on, can we expect action to increase the pensions of these people early in the new session?


Mr. Speaker:: It seems to me the hon. member has simply reiterated the question asked by the Leader of the Opposition.


Stanley Howard Knowles: On
a point of order, Mr. Speaker, the previous question had to do with only one phase, namely the 2 per cent cost of living bonus. I am asking about a general increase in pensions across the board.


Right Hon. P. E. Trudeau (Prime Minister):: The program for the next session will be announced in the Speech from the Throne and subsequent speeches. Therefore I suggest that the hon. member is a little premature with his question.



October 22. 1969
Inquiries of the Ministry LABOUR CONDITIONS



UNEMPLOYMENT-INQUIRY AS TO SPECIAL WINTER PROGRAM

['Order, please. I have the impression that the question was in some way argumentative. The reply is of the same nature. I think that we should go on to a further supplementary question.']
Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas: Mr. Speaker, my question is for the Prime Minister. Having regard to the fact that the seasonal unemployment figure is the highest since 1963, is the government contemplating any special program to alleviate unemployment this winter when unemployment is usually higher than at any other time of the year?


Pierre Elliott Trudeau: Mr. Speaker, we are waiting for a reaction from the Prices and Incomes Commission which has been faced with a new position by the labour unions. We will see if we have to have other policies to combat inflation which will do it in a way that will not increase unemployment.


Thomas Clement (Tommy) Douglas: I have a supplementary question, Mr. Speaker. In view of the fact that the unemployment problem is already here, may I ask the Prime Minister whether any information has been conveyed to either the provincial governments or the municipalities, to the effect that the government intends to introduce an improved and adapted winter works program in the coming months.


Pierre Elliott Trudeau: No, Mr. Speaker. As the hon. member knows, the winter works program has been replaced by a much more productive and useful program, that of manpower retraining, and we do not want to go back to old programs.



Gilbert F. Rondeau: Mr. Speaker, I would like to put a question to the Prime Minister. Could he tell us if he has received an answer to the note of protest he has sent to the French government with regard to the famous Lipkowski affair?


Pierre Elliott Trudeau: No, Mr. Speaker.


Gilbert F. Rondeau: Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask a supplementary question. Could the Prime Minister tell us if communications

have been exchanged between himself and the government of Quebec in that connection?


Pierre Elliott Trudeau: No, Mr. Speaker.


Right Hon. J. G. Diefenbaker (Prince Albert):: Mr. Speaker, I wish to direct a question to the Minister without Portfolio, the hon. member for Saskatoon-Humboldt. It has to do of course with the assumption of his new responsibilities-


Some hon. Members:: Hear, hear.


John George Diefenbaker: -in connection with
wheat with which I hope he will be more successful than with some of the other responsibilities that have fallen on him recently. I should like to ask him whether he is in a position to advise us on the present situation relative to the 135 million bushels of wheat which were comprised within the three year contract that terminated in July. Have any final arrangements been made respecting the terms, the price, etc. for these 135 million bushels, and when is a meeting expected between the authorities in Canada and the food authorities in the U.S.S.R. concerning not only the 135 million bushels but also future sales of wheat to that country?


Otto Emil Lang: Mr. Speaker, I believe the right hon. gentleman is aware of the fact that when the foreign minister of the Soviet Union was in Canada he made a very positive response in connection with the negotiations which were to be undertaken relative to the past and future contracts for wheat between our two countries. It has not been the practice in the past, and I do not intend that it should be my practice in the future, to discuss in public negotiations which are under way or about to be undertaken. This is not the best way to negotiate. Therefore, I will not talk about specific details until these negotiations are completed.


John George Diefenbaker: May I then pass on to the minister the fact that the meeting is to take place in about six weeks time. He does not know anything about it yet, it seems.


Mr. Eldon M. Woolliams (Calgary North):: should like to ask the Minister of Labour a
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question relative to the same subject matter of grain. Is the strike in Vancouver over yet and can he assure the house, as he has assured the public through the newspapers, that grain is moving unhampered through Canadian ports?


Hon. Bryce Mackasey (Minister of Labour):: As I promised, the grain is and has been moving. I know from questions previously raised by the hon. gentleman that he shares my belief that the problem of grain is a national one.
In so far as the strike itself is concerned, unfortunately the collective agreement was not ratified by the membership. However, may I say in a more positive vein that I understand the point of dissension so far as the membership is concerned is not centred on the monetary issue but rather on certain clauses concerning working conditions, and I am hopeful that these can be ironed out in the next few days.


Eldon Mattison Woolliams: I have a supplementary question, Mr. Speaker. I wonder if the Minister of Labour could intimate to the house whether it is the new labour policy to move certain commodities and not others.


Bryce Stuart Mackasey: Mr. Speaker, judging from the attitude of the hon. gentleman just before the house recessed he, more than any other person, emphasized the necessity of moving grain in this country-


Mr. Speaker:: Order, please. I have the impression that the question was in some way argumentative. The reply is of the same nature. I think that we should go on to a further supplementary question.



THE CANADIAN ECONOMY


Hon. Marcel Lambert (Edmonton West):: Mr. Speaker, my question is directed to the Minister of Consumer and Corporate Affairs. In view of the unequivocal refusal by the CLC and the CNTU, announced last Friday, to co-operate in any way with management and government in establishing voluntary guidelines as urged by the Prices and Incomes Commission, will the minister advise the house what alternative action the government will propose as a substitute for its apparent failure in its fight against inflation?


Mr. Speaker:: I suggest to the hon. member that the question he is asking, although very
Inquiries of the Ministry important, is one which invites a statement of a general nature which normally should be made on motions, and I doubt that hon. members would want to return to motions at this time.



PRICES AND INCOMES COMMISSION-POSITION OF CHAIRMAN

Marcel Joseph Aimé Lambert: Mr. Speaker, may I direct a related question to the Prime Minister. Can the Prime Minister, who referred to the situation a few moments ago, tell the House whether _ there have been any discussions between him or any other member of the government and Dr. Young about his continuation as head of the Prices and Incomes Commission? Is he going to return to his post at the University of British Columbia, a position which is still held open for him?


Mr. Speaker:: Order, please. I think that the question was put in an improper form.



PRICES AND INCOMES COMMISSION-CANCELLATION OF PRESS CONFERENCE

['Mr. Speaker, the general purpose of our negotiations at Stockholm is to get into a position where we can have these kinds of discussions with a government that represents so many millions of people.']
Hon. Mariial Asselin (Charlevoix):: I should like to put a supplementary question to the Minister of Consumer and Corporate Affairs.
The Prices and Incomes Commission was supposed to hold this morning a press conference which was cancelled or postponed. I should like to know whether the postponement of that press conference is due to the statements made by the labour leaders on the price freeze as a means to fight inflation, and whether the Commission had been instructed by the minister not to comment on that matter.


Stanley Ronald Basford: I have only read the morning newspapers from which I gather that the press conference was cancelled without comment. I do not think it is related to the factors to which the hon. member referred.


Martial Asselin: Mr. Speaker, I wish to put a supplementary question. In view of the fact that the Prices and Incomes Commission is scheduled to hold a national conference next December, can the minister give us the assurance that this conference will take place on that date?


Mr. Speaker:: I wonder whether the question is so urgent as to be put at this time. I

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Inquiries of the Ministry have doubts in that respect. However, if the minister is ready to answer, I have no serious objections to it.


Stanley Ronald Basford: As I understand it, that was the plan announced by the chairman of the Prices and Incomes Commission. If there is any change, since this is an independent commission, any announcement would have to come from the commission.



Mr. Barry Mather (Surrey):: I should like to address my question to the Secretary of State for External Affairs. Having in mind the recent massive underground nuclear tests conducted by the Soviet Union and the United States, the latter being of particular concern to many British Columbians, can the minister undertake to make an early report on what Canada is doing to expedite the signing of a test ban treaty?


Mitchell William Sharp: Yes, Mr. Speaker, Canada has been very active in its discussions to try to bring about a comprehensive test ban and is of course on record to that effect in the general assembly and the Geneva committee on disarmament. The main problem is how to identify violations of an underground test ban. We will be sponsoring a motion at the current General Assembly calling for all member states to submit lists of their seismo-logical monitoring facilities, together with assurances that they will promptly supply data to help verify whether or not a seismic event is an earthquake or an underground nuclear test.


Mr. R. N. Thompson (Red Deer):: As a supplementary question, Mr. Speaker, I wish to ask the minister whether the question of nuclear testing has been one of the subjects discussed by the Government of Canada with representatives of the government of Peking at Stockholm, and whether any mention was made in those discussions of the high-level nuclear testing that has taken place in recent weeks in China?


Mitchell William Sharp: Mr. Speaker, the general purpose of our negotiations at Stockholm is to get into a position where we can have these kinds of discussions with a government that represents so many millions of people.



CANADIAN BROADCASTING CORPORATION


Mr. Andre Fortin (Lolbiniere):: I should like to put a question to the Right Hon. Prime Minister.
In view of his recent statements concerning the CBC in which he seemed to speek of a factual situation, can he tell us what specific steps he intends to take to throw light on this matter and substantiate his accusations?


Pierre Elliott Trudeau: As far as the truth of the matter is concerned, Mr. Speaker, I was relying in part, on what the leader of the Rallie-ment Creditiste (Mr. Caouette) said repeatedly during the last session, and also on what has been said by members of all parties in the house.
With regard to specific steps, Mr. Speaker, I do not intend to take any at the present time; I have confidence in the management of the CBC. I feel that, for the time being, I should rely on them, trusting that they will live up to their responsibilities. If they are not successful, the question becomes hypothetical, and the government will have to consider some other action.


André-Gilles Fortin: Mr. Speaker, a supplementary question. In view of the fact that the Prime Minister made serious charges against the CBC and that the latter is answerable to parliament, can he say whether he intends to bring this question before the house or one of the committees?


Pierre Elliott Trudeau: Mr. Speaker, the committee already exists and if its members express the wish to look into this matter, I will be very happy to hear their request. But members of the Ralliement Creditiste sit on that committee and as I said, the most violent charges brought against the CBC came from them. I feel therefore that they must know their diagnosis better than I do.


Mr. W. B. Nesbitt (Oxford):: As a supplementary question, Mr. Speaker, in view of the Right Hon. Prime Minister's suggestion that the government might deal with separatist propaganda broadcast by the CBC, I am wondering if the Prime Minister has any similar plans to deal with the overwhelmingly heavy percentage of propaganda broadcast by
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the CBC favourable to states such as the Soviet Union and China as opposed to the United States?


Pierre Elliott Trudeau: I have no such plan in mind, Mr. Speaker.


Martial Asselin: Mr. Speaker, I would like to put a supplementary-question to the Prime Minister.
In view of the fact that Mr. Davidson has intimated, in a statement, that he would not take into account what the Prime Minister has said and that he would carry on with the planning of CBC programs as he thinks best, does the Prime Minister intend to take any action against Mr. Davidson who was appointed by the present government?


Pierre Elliott Trudeau: I have no inclination to do that, Mr. Speaker, but I should be pleased to receive representations from hon. members in that connection, if they feel that I should do it.



NATIONAL DEFENCE


Hon. D. S. Harkness (Calgary Centre):: Mr. Speaker, I should like to direct a question to the Minister of National Defence. Since the minister made his statement with regard to reductions in the Armed Forces of Canada, both regular and militia, a little over a month ago, has he had consultation with the defence associations in connection with the strength and organization of our militia forces in the future? If so, can he indicate when he will be in a position to make a statement to the House as to what the future organization of our militia will be?


Léo Alphonse Joseph Cadieux: Mr. Speaker, we had many consultations with the defence associations, the last one being held on Monday of this week in the conference room at the Defence Department. It was a very fruitful meeting. I am sure that eventually we are going to produce a plan to which we both agree, but this of course will depend on many circumstances. However, I think there is hope that within three weeks to one month this matter will be finalized.
Inquiries of the Ministry PUBLIC SERVICE



METHOD OF REDUCTION OF PERSONNEL

Hon. George Hees (Prince Edward-Hasiings):: Mr. Speaker, I wish to direct a question to the Right Hon. Prime Minister. In carrying out the government's plan to reduce the Civil Service by 25,000 has the government given consideration to allowing the normal attrition of 10J per cent per year to do the job in one year and four months, as it would do, instead of dismissing a large number of people who are senior in years and who must retire on inadequate pensions because they will be unable to find other jobs?


Pierre Elliott Trudeau: Yes, Mr. Speaker, a great deal of consideration has been given to that. The figure of
25,000,	as has been abundantly explained, is one which comprises those who would be released by attrition, plus those positions that would not be filled and for which there has been establishment, as well as those who would be dismissed. The figure of 25,000 comprises all these classes.


George Harris Hees: As a supplementary question, Mr. Speaker, may I take it that it is the government's plan not to fire any civil servants but to allow attrition alone to look after the lessening of the numbers of civil servants, something which the Prime Minister and the government have expressed their intention of doing?


Pierre Elliott Trudeau: No, Mr. Speaker.


George Harris Hees: As a further supplementary, Mr. Speaker, would the Prime Minister explain to the country just what the hell he intends to do?


Some hon. Members:: Oh, oh.


Edgar John Benson: Why don't you listen?


Mr. Speaker:: Order, please.



REQUEST FOR INVESTIGATION OF PRICES

['As the hon. member knows, Mr. Speaker, it is not a matter of establishing a ceasefire; it is a matter of respecting a ceasefire that has already been agreed upon. On behalf of the Canadian government, I have been urging the parties to this dispute to observe the ceasefire and avoid the forays and raids which are causing so much loss of life and property.']
Mrs. Grace Maclnnis (Vancouver-Kingsway):: Mr. Speaker, I have a question for the Minister of Consumer and Corporate Affairs. In view of the statement made yesterday by the Ontario Minister of Agriculture that retailers are not passing on to the consumers the recent reductions in the producer price of beef, will the Minister of Consumer and Corporate Affairs initiate a full investigation into beef prices as I urged as far back as June 16?

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Inquiries of the Ministry


Stanley Ronald Basford: Mr. Speaker, my officials are obtaining a copy of the report mentioned by the Minister of Agriculture for Ontario.


Winona Grace MacInnis: As a supplementary question, Mr. Speaker, may we have some indication when that report will be available to this House?


Stanley Ronald Basford: Well, Mr. Speaker, it is a report published by a provincial government and I am trying to obtain a copy of it. I will now try to obtain two copies, one for the bon. member.



Mr. Georges C. Lachance (Lafontaine):: Mr. Speaker, I wish to direct to the Secretary of State for External Affairs a question relating to the conflict between Israel and the Arab world.
In view of the speech delivered by the Secretary of State for External Affairs before the General Assembly of the United Nations on September 29 last, and in the light of the recent statement of the Prime Minister of Israel as to the lack of UN authority, what steps does the hon. minister intend to take to promote a cease-fire in that conflict?


Mitchell William Sharp: As the hon. member knows, Mr. Speaker, it is not a matter of establishing a ceasefire; it is a matter of respecting a ceasefire that has already been agreed upon. On behalf of the Canadian government, I have been urging the parties to this dispute to observe the ceasefire and avoid the forays and raids which are causing so much loss of life and property.



POLLUTION


Mr. G. H. Aiken (Parry Sound-Muskoka):: Mr. Speaker, I wish to direct a question to the Minister of Energy, Mines and Resources. It arises from the announcement of a $30 million federal-state program in the United States to cope with pollution in the Great Lakes, the Arctic and other waters. Has his

department been in consultation with United States officials to see that Canadian efforts are co-ordinated in international waters?


Hon. J. J. Greene (Minister of Energy, Mines and Resources):: Mr. Speaker, my department is in continuing consultation with
U.S. authorities under the aegis of the International Joint Commission. I do not know of any specific negotiations that are going on in connection with this particular program that was announced by the Vice-President of the United States on Saturday last. But I certainly believe there will be some under the aegis of our continuing negotiations with the United States in this regard.


Gordon Harvey Aiken: Mr. Speaker, as a supplementary question may I ask the minister whether his department is considering a similar type of program for Canada, that is a federal-provincial co-ordinated effort?


John James Greene: Well, Mr. Speaker, during the summer recess the government announced its position papers in respect of the proposed Canada Water Act, and there has been continuing negotiation with the provinces on the subject matter of those position papers. It is our belief that the Canada Water Act will achieve the objectives that are envisaged in the presidential program announced in the United States, and in fact our's is a program that will be even better suited to the problem of fighting water pollution in Canada.



SHIPBUILDING


Mr. Lloyd R. Crouse (South Shore):: Mr. Speaker, I wish to direct a question to the Minister of Transport who, I am pleased to note, has removed himself from the leadership fiasco in his native province. In view of mounting unemployment in our shipyards in Atlantic Canada, is the government giving any consideration to making the present 35 per cent subsidy payable on the construction of steel ships applicable to ships constructed of other substances such as wood, fibreglass or ferrous concrete?


Donald Campbell Jamieson: Mr. Speaker, I have also removed myself from the shipbuilding subsidy responsibility and questions on this matter should now be directed to the Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce.
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Lloyd Roseville Crouse: Thank you, Mr. Speaker. I presume the Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce heard my question. Perhaps he would be permitted to answer.


Mr. Thomas M. Bell (Saint John-Lancas-ter):: Mr. Speaker, I have a supplementary question. May I ask the minister if it is true that there has been a delay in the departmental investigation on this subject and if so, what is the reason for the delay?


Jean-Luc Pepin: I am not aware there has been a delay, Mr. Speaker. I received a report yesterday, and I saw an article in the paper confirming it, that the inquiry was going quite well.



HISTORIC SITES


Mr. Heath Macquarrie (Hillsborough):: should like to direct a question to the right hon. Prime Minister concerning the threatened demolition of Clansmere, the long-time residence of Sir Robert Borden, one of his illustrious predecessors. Can he advise if the government is taking any steps to preserve this historic house for the people of Canada whom Sir Robert served so well?


Mr. Speaker:: I am not sure the destruction is imminent or that the question is urgent, but in view of the fact this is the end of the session and it is difficult to suggest that the matter be debated at ten o'clock tonight, the question might be allowed.


Pierre Elliott Trudeau: Mr. Speaker, I will undertake it will not be done before the next session.



CAPE BRETON DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION


Robert Lorne Stanfield: Mr. Speaker, I should like to direct a question to the Minister of Regional Economic Expansion and ask him whether the position of chairman of the Cape Breton Development Corporation, which has been vacant for some months, has been filled? If not, when we may expect such an appointment?


Hon. Jean Marchand (Minister of Regional Economic Expansion):: Unfortunately, Mr. Inquiries of the Ministry Speaker, we have not yet succeeded in finding someone to replace Mr. Fullerton, which is not an easy thing to do, but I hope to be in a position to find somebody who could fill that difficult position in the near future.



AIRPORTS


Mr. Raymond Rock (Lachine):: Mr. Speaker,
I have a question for the Minister of Transport and I hope he does not remove himself from this question too. Has the Minister of Transport anything to report regarding the serious problems involving the Murray Hill limousine service at Dorval airport?


Donald Campbell Jamieson: There is a pun there but I will resist it. It is my intention, immediately the new session begins, to raise this entire matter of transport at airports in Canada with the parliamentary Committee on Transport and Communications.



ALLEGED INEFFECTIVENESS OF PRESCRIPTION PRODUCT

David Orlikow: Mr. Speaker, may I direct a question to the Minister of National Health and Welfare. Last July I asked the minister whether he would consider making a statement on motions based on a study released by the United States Food and Drug Directorate which showed that large numbers of prescription drugs were ineffective. Did the minister give consideration to the statement?


John Carr Munro: Mr. Speaker, I will be prepared to make a full statement on this matter. I intend to do so on motions at the first opportunity.



CANADIAN SOVEREIGNTY


Mr. Bernard Dumont (Frontenac):: Mr. Speaker, I should like to put a question to the Secretary of State for External Affairs.
Can the minister tell us whether some action has been taken since the Manhattan has sailed in Northern waters, with a view to having such waters recognized as Canadian territory?

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Inquiries of the Ministry


Mitchell William Sharp: Mr. Speaker, I expect that this matter will be the subject of some discussion at the next session.


Mr. G. W. Baldwin (Peace River):: A supplementary question, Mr. Speaker. Has the government now settled its anxieties and vague doubts and is it in a position to make a definitive statement as to sovereignty in Arctic waters and resources on the continental shelf, as well as the extent of the continental shelf north of the Arctic coast?


Mitchell William Sharp: This will be discussed in the coming session. I think the government has a pretty clear idea of the extent of our sovereignty in the north, but I hope the opposition is not confused.


Robert Lorne Stanfield: We are not thinking about it; we have known for some time.



CAPE BRETON DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION


Mr. Robert Muir (Cape Breton-The Sydneys):: My question is for the Minister of Regional Economic Expansion. May I ask how soon he will be in a position to make a statement to the effect that the Cape Breton Development Corporation will receive a further allocation of money?


Jean Marchand: I do not understand the question, Mr. Speaker.


Robert Muir: For
clarification to the minister, may I explain that the monies allocated to Devco, as they call it, are rapidly being depleted and as a result their work will be curtailed.


Jean Marchand: I will answer the question during the next session.



COMPANY OF YOUNG CANADIANS


Mr.   Fernand-E. Leblanc@Laurier: Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask the Secretary of State a question about the Company of Young Canadians. Since the problem is urgent and of national importance, could the minister suggest a possible date for the establishment 
of the committee he mentioned in his statement and inform the house about its terms of reference?


Gérard Pelletier: This will be done as soon as possible in the course of the next session, Mr. Speaker. As for the terms of reference they are still to be set in a specific way.



LABOUR CONDITIONS


Mr. Robert Simpson (Churchill):: I have a question for the President of the Treasury Board, Mr. Speaker. In view of the decisions of this government and of the United States government to reduce sharply the work being carried on at the National Research Council range at Churchill, Manitoba, and in view of the statements by local spokesmen concerning the drastic effect this action will have on the economy and the entire future of Churchill, what action is the government planning to assist those displaced as a result of this decision?


Charles Mills (Bud) Drury: Mr. Speaker, it is a matter of great regret that the NASA authorities, National Aeronautical Space Administration of the United States, have not found themselves, for budgetary reasons, able to continue the rocket research at Churchill. The National Research Council, however, will continue on its own, and on a reduced scale, the rocket investigation which has been conducted. With a view to causing as little local dislocation as possible, a study is now under way by the personnel of the National Research Council and the Department of Public Works to see how this can best be arranged.


Robert Simpson: I have a supplementary question, Mr. Speaker. Can the President of the Treasury Board say if any consideration is being given by this government to asking the NASA authorities for further consultation before a final decision is made?


Charles Mills (Bud) Drury: Mr. Speaker, the news to which the hon. gentleman referred emanated from an almost five-day discussion with NASA at which an endeavour was made to get them to continue.


Mr. James A. McGraih (Sf. John's East):: Mr. Speaker, a supplementary question. Is it the intention of the National Research Coun-
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cil to continue to operate the NASA tracking station at St. John's Newfoundland, which has also been closed down?


Charles Mills (Bud) Drury: No, Mr. Speaker. This was a station being operated by Canada on behalf of NASA as part of a total world space program. Since this station was built by NASA, they concluded that, for budgetary reasons and because the fall-out of scientific information from that particular station had reduced very considerably, they no longer wished it kept open.


Douglas Scott Harkness: Mr. Speaker, I have a supplementary question on this matter for the Minister of National Defence. Is his department giving consideration to re-activating Churchill as a military base in order to take up this slack and also to meet the demands he mentioned in his statement a month ago for greater military presence in the north?


Léo Alphonse Joseph Cadieux: Mr. Speaker, to the specific question of whether we are contemplating the re-opening of the base at Churchill, unfortunately my answer has to be no, at the present time. In answer to the other question about the Canadian presence in the north, I may say this matter will have to be studied with more precision by the task force that we are forming. I hope it will make some recommendations to the Minister in the near future so that we can better determine where the facility should be based in the north.


Gerald William Baldwin: Why not send the
Bonaventure up there?


Robert Simpson: A supplementary question-


Mr. Speaker:: Order, please. I must advise hon. members that we are running short of time. Other hon. members are anxious to ask questions and perhaps we might go on with some others and, if there is time, return to the question asked by the hon. member for Churchill.



MONTREAL-SMITH REPORT-REQUEST FOR ACTION

Mr. Georges Valade (Sainie-Marie):: Mr. Speaker, I have a question about an important matter to direct to the Minister of Labour. Since the operations of the Port of Montreal were almost brought to a standstill
Inquiries of the Ministry on October 21 because of a dispute between truckers and longshoremen, what action is the minister contemplating to bring this dispute to an end and assure the free movement of goods through the port? May I also ask if the minister has received the Smith report which has to do with an inquiry into labour unrest at the Port of Montreal? When will this report be tabled? May I also thank you, Mr. Speaker, for recognizing me at last.


Bryce Stuart Mackasey: Mr. Speaker, I am happy to say that the labour unrest to which the hon. member has referred, and which brought the Port of Montreal to a halt yesterday, has been rectified and that the port returned to normal operations this morning. However, I should not want to mislead the House by saying there are no serious problems involving labour unrest in Montreal. I received the Smith report on October 2. There is now a translation. I hope the report can be the basis of action that will once and for all rid the Port of Montreal and, indeed, other ports in this country of many causes of labour unrest.



SASKATCHEWAN-JURISDICTION TO ISSUE POTASH EXPORT PERMITS

Mr. Les Benjamin (Regina-Lake Centre):: Mr. Speaker, may I direct a question to the Minister of Industry, Trade and Commerce. May I ask, in view of the announcement by the government of Saskatchewan of its intention to institute minimum prices or price controls and disposal programs with respect to potash for export, and the obvious conflict of interest that arises in these two areas between provincial and federal jurisdictions, whether there was any consultation on this matter between the federal authorities and the government of Saskatchewan? If there was, has the federal government given permission to the government of Saskatchewan to issue export permits, or is it just looking the other way?


Jean-Luc Pepin: Mr. Speaker, there was plenty of consultation. The obvious possible conflicts were brought to the attention of the Premier of Saskatchewan; they were ones having to do with legality, feasibility, economic desirability, and so on. The premier is going ahead with his program. It is difficult, before we know exactly how it will look, to pass judgment on it. I, therefore, reserve my

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Inquiries of the Ministry judgment. I will not pre-judge the sort of program he will come up with, but he is very much aware ol the pitfalls.



AGRICULTURE


Bernard Dumont: Mr. Speaker, I would like to put a question to the Minister of Agriculture.
Could he tell us by how many millions the subsidies granted for the transportation of feed grain in western Canada and in British Columbia will be reduced?


Hon. H. A. Olson (Minister of Agriculture):: Mr. Speaker, the subsidy on feed grains to eastern Canada and British Columbia will not be reduced in the current year. Indeed, the subsidies will be increased from $21.5 million to $22.5 million. There is such an increased volume of grain moving from the prairie area to both eastern and western Canada that it is necessary to reduce the rates as well, to keep this matter within budget limitations.



LABOUR RELATIONS


Mr. Gaelan J. Serre (Nickel Belt):: Mr. Speaker, I should like to direct a question to the Minister of Labour.
Since the miners' strike in the Sudbury area has been going on for more than three months, as the nickel market has substantially decreased inside and outside this country, as thousands of families find themselves in a more and more precarious condition, and also as the unemployed are calling for the federal government's intervention in this conflict, on account of the provincial mediator's failure to bring both parties to an understanding, is it the intention of the minister to make representations to the responsible authorities so as to bring this conflict to an end?


Bryce Stuart Mackasey: Mr. Speaker, may I say from the outset that this naturally is a provincial matter. I wish to reassure the hon. gentleman that the provincial mediator in the dispute, Mr. Dickie, is considered one of the most respected and talented mediators in the country and I am sure 
he is capable of bringing this dispute to an end. I understand talks will be resuming in a day or two. In any event, the Minister of Labour has enough federal problems on his plate without becoming involved in provincial disputes.



HOUSING


Mr. Lincoln M. Alexander (Hamilton West):: Mr. Speaker, may I direct a question to the Minister of Finance which has to do with the recent announcement by the government of Ontario that it is showing interest in building societies. These, I understand, will perhaps make more money available for mortgages. Could the minister advise us whether the government has been in contact with the government of Ontario about this matter and, in particular, whether the matter of the granting of income tax concessions was discussed, since this would help with respect to the formation and operation of such societies?


Edgar John Benson: Mr. Speaker, there has been no direct consultation between myself and the government of the province of Ontario. The only information I have received in this regard has come through the press and from my colleague, the minister in charge of housing, who said that he heard something about this. Perhaps the Ontario minister with responsibility in this field would like to meet with me at some time in the future.


EXTERNAL AFFAIRS
Mr.  R. Gordon L. Fairweafher@Fundy-Roy-al: Mr. Speaker, I have desperately been trying to ask a question about the political situation in Greece, although I expect it could wait until the next session. I wonder how Canada responded to the appeal of the political committee of the North Atlantic Assembly last week when the suggestion was made that NATO' should place concerted pressure on the government of Greece within the NATO council with a view to a rapid return to free elections, parliamentary democracy and the rule of law in that unfortunate country.


Mitchell William Sharp: Mr. Speaker, that has been the view of the Canadian government throughout. We do not believe that Greece
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should be thrown out of the NATO alliance because of the nature of its present government when we are all trying to help restore democracy in that country.


Wallace Bickford (Wally) Nesbitt: Mr. Speaker, I have a question for the Minister of Transport which, I suppose, could wait until the next session; but it will save time then if I ask it now.


Mr. Speaker:: Order, please. Since the question period has expired, it seems to me that questions that can wait until the next session might very well be asked within the next few days. With the consent of the House, we might take another minute to recognize a few of the hon. members in the back benches who have not had an opportunity to ask questions.



AIRPORTS


Mr. John Burton (Regina East):: Mr. Speaker, may I direct a question to the Minister of Transport. In view of the urgency of reaching a settlement of negotiations between the city of Regina and the government of Canada on the sale of airport property to the federal government, can the minister indicate what progress is being made in these negotiations?


Donald Campbell Jamieson: Mr. Speaker, I am happy to
announce that the Mayor of Regina is coming here and that I am to meet with him at ten o'clock on Friday morning.



HIGHWAYS


Mr. Robert McCleave (Halifax-East Hants):: Mr. Speaker, since my question involves the Departments of Transport and Regional and Economic Expansion, perhaps I might direct it to the Prime Minister. Would he, as soon as possible in the new session, indicate what cost sharing arrangement with regard to highway construction will be offered to eastern Canadian provinces?


Mr. Speaker:: Order, please. The hon. member is asking for a statement to be made in the new session. Perhaps the question might be asked again then.
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NEWFOUNDLAND-STATUS OF NEGOTIATIONS CONCERNING BONNE BAY

Mr. Jack Marshall (Humber-Sf. George's-Sl. Barbe):: Mr. Speaker, may I address a question to the Minister of Indian Affairs and Northern Development. I gave him notice of it. Could he advise us if the government of Newfoundland has indicated it is willing to turn over the land for the establishment of a national park in the Bonne Bay area? Could he also advise us of the present status of negotiations between the two levels of government?


Joseph Jacques Jean Chrétien: Mr. Speaker, I thank the hon. member for giving me notice of his question. Negotiations are being carried on in a regular way.



FINANCE


Mr. Herb Breau (Gloucester):: Mr. Speaker, may I direct a question to the Minister of Finance? Can he tell the House when he will present the government's white paper on taxation?


Edgar John Benson: Mr. Speaker, on November 7 at 6 p.m. I will table it in the House, with the consent of the House.



NATIONAL DEFENCE


Mr. R. E. McKinley (Huron):: I have a question for the Minister of National Defence, Mr. Speaker. In view of the announcement that the Canadian Forces Base at Clinton is to be phased out by September, 1971, would the minister give us an assurance that the normal maintenance service, such as the painting of houses, will continue to be carried out up to that time?
Since I may not have an opportunity to put a supplementary, Mr. Speaker, I shall ask a further question at this point. Would the minister consider initiating, and paying for, a feasibility study by a private concern so that such a study could be made available to potential buyers who may take over this

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Inquiries of the Ministry place after 1971? Can the minister give an assurance, also, that nothing will be removed from the base-


Mr. Speaker:: Order, please.


Léo Alphonse Joseph Cadieux: First, I can give the hon. member an assurance that the base will be kept in good shape and good order until we vacate it on the date the hon. member has quoted. As far as a feasibility study is concerned, it has been our experience that working with the provincial organizations, which specialize in problems of this nature, we have been quite successful. Instead of my department paying for a feasibility study, it is my suggestion that perhaps the provincial authorities who are concerned with these problems might wish to talk to us about it. They would be welcome to do so. I am sorry, but I did not hear the last part of the question.


Robert Elgin McKinley: It is very short, Mr. Speaker-


Mr. Speaker:: Order. The hon. member indicates he has a short supplementary question. At the same time there are a number of other hon. members who would like to ask questions, and I suggest we have for some minutes, now, gone beyond the hour reserved for oral questions.



PROROGATION OF PARLIAMENT

Mr. Speaker:: I have the honour to inform the house that I have received the following communication:
Government House, Ottawa October 17, 1969 Sir,
I have the honour to inform you that the Right Honourable John R. Cartwright, P.C., M.C., Chief Justice of Canada, in his capacity as Deputy of His Excellency the Governor General, will proceed to the Senate Chamber at 4.45 p.m. on Wednesday, October 22nd, for the purpose of proroguing the First Session of the Twenty-eighth Parliament of Canada.
I have the honour to be, Sir, Your obedient servant,
Louis-Fremont Trudeau,
Brigadier General
Assistant Secretary to the Governor General. PRIVILEGE



MR. McGRATH-OMISSION FROM TRANSPORT COMMITTEE REPORT

James Aloysius McGrath: am rising on a question of privilege, Mr. 
Speaker. I had hoped to direct a question to the Chairman of the transport committee, the hon. member for LaSalle, but since he is no longer in the House, and since I failed to catch Your Honour's eye, perhaps I could raise the matter now in the form of a question of privilege. It has to do with the 13th report of the Standing Committee on Transport and Communications which was presented in the House this day. My question arises from the fact that this report does not contain the unanimous recommendation of the transport committee, which met on Monday last, October 20, in accordance with which the committee decided to recommend to the House that the House extend its order of reference to the committee, permitting it, or instructing it, to make a study of the transportation problems of the Atlantic provinces and, more particularly, of those relating to Labrador and the north shore of Quebec.
The report of the committee presented today contains only a part of that recommendation. Unfortunately, as this is the last day of the session I am not in a position to move a motion-otherwise I would do so-to refer this matter to the appropriate committee in order to find out why the instructions of the transport committee were not carried out.


Donald Stovel Macdonald: I am not familiar with the report or with its contents but I have had discussions with various members of the committee and I understand that the verbatim transcript of the committee's proceedings was not prepared in time for the committee to complete its final report. I indicated that to the extent I could give such an assurance we would establish a new order of reference in the new session in order that the subject matters referred to by the hon. member could be considered by the committee. The committee could then complete its report. I am glad to repeat this assurance, given privately, in public.
I wonder if I might suggest to Your Honour that we suspend this sitting until the call of the bell.


Mr. Speaker:: Is that agreed?


Some hon. Members:: Agreed.


Mr. Speaker:: The house will accordingly suspend its sitting until the call of the bell at 4.45 p.m.



SITTING SUSPENDED

[Stage Direction]
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[Stage Direction]
The house resumed at 4.45 p.m.

[Stage Direction]
A message was delivered by Major C. K. Lamoureux, Gentleman Usher of the Black Hod, as follows:
Mr. Speaker, the Honourable the Deputy Governor General desires the immediate attendance of this honourable House in the chamber of the honourable the Senate.
Accordingly, Mr. Speaker with the House went up to the Senate chamber.
Whereupon the Deputy Governor General was pleased to close the first session of the twenty-eighth parliament of Canada with the following speech:
Honourable Members of the Senate:
Members of the House of Commons: v The first session of the twenty-eighth Parliament \yas noteworthy both for the importance of the measures carried into law, and for the preparations set under way for further action in this Parliament.
Canadians were saddened during this session by the death of a distinguished and much respected former Governor General, Field Marshal The Right Honourable The Earl Alexander of Tunis. His gallant leadership in war and his devoted public service in peace won His Lordship the respect and affection of all Canadians.
Appreciative of the need for the effective administration of our public affairs, you approved far-reaching changes in the organization of the Government and its departments, and procedures by which each of the chambers of Parliament discharges its public duties. The Departments of Regional Economic Expansion, Communications, and Supply and Services were established. The rules of the House of Commons have undergone fundamental reform so that the Members of that chamber may undertake a more profound scrutiny of public affairs. Research assistance was provided to the leaders of the Opposition parties to enable them to better discharge their vital responsibilities.
Amongst the most important legislative contributions to the preservation of Canadian unity were steps taken to reduce inequalities of language rights and economic opportunities. The Official Languages Act recognized the right of Canadians to deal with federal government institutions in French or English. To combat regional economic disparities, you sanctioned the creation of the Department of Regional Economic Expansion and the enactment of the Regional Development Incentives Act.
During the session, the Government re-convened the Federal-Provincial Constitutional Conference to consider changes which a century of experience and the challenges of our time demand in our basic constitutional structures. Wide ranging proposals for constitutional reform continued to be studied by heads of governments and by their official representatives.
In pursuance of its objectives of justice and equality, the Government proposed a policy within which Canada's Indian peoples might overcome the
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discrimination, economic, legal and social, under which they have long suffered.
The Government has, as a result of its review of external and defence policies, undertaken fresh departures in foreign policy. It decided to re-align Canadian forces within the North Atlantic Treaty Organization. Negotiations were commenced with representatives of the People's Republic of China with the aim of establishing formal diplomatic relations with that government. Discussions between Canada and the Holy See resulted in the decision to exchange representation at the ambassadorial level. Canadian ministerial missions visited Japan and Latin America to explore possibilities of increased trade, investment and closer co-operation.
The Prime Minister attended the Conference in London of Commonwealth Prime Ministers and visited Washington at the invitation of the President of the United States. He and his colleagues received a number of leaders of other countries, including the Presidents of Niger and Tanzania; the Prime Ministers of Barbados, Lesotho, Singapore, Australia and New Zealand; the Foreign Ministers of the United Arab Republic, Belgium, Israel, Germany, Britain, Dahomey, Gabon, the Soviet Union, Italy and Burma; and the Secretaries-General of the United Nations and NATO.
Inflation continues to threaten the economy. Through fiscal and monetary policies, the establishment of a Prices and Incomes Commission, and strict control of its own expenditures, the Government is attempting to reduce the upward pressure on prices. Continued care by the Government and matching concern at other levels of government and in the private economy will be necessary, however, to contain cost and price increases within the limits of increased productivity.
The Canadian dollar has remained strong during a period of uncertainty in world foreign exchange markets. As one step toward the establishment of a larger liquidity base for international trade, you have approved changes in the Bretton Woods Agreement to establish special drawing rights.
You have also approved amendments to the Customs Tariff for the purpose of implementing Canadian undertakings in the Kennedy Round Trade negotiations. At the same time, you approved the Anti-Dumping Act and the creation of an antidumping tribunal to protect Canadian producers from unfair trading practices. As a further aid to the competitive position of Canadian producers on world markets, you have established the Export Development Corporation with broad financial powers to facilitate sales to foreign customers.
You have approved amendments to the Estate Tax Act, and to the gift tax provisions of the Income Tax Act, which will ensure a fairer distribution of the burden of taxation. Other amendments to the Income Tax Act with relation to insurance and banking institutions will have the same effect.
The Government has initiated a thorough review of the present social security system and of veterans' pensions. Parliament has approved amendments to the National Housing Act to expand the powers of Central Mortgage and Housing Corporation to assist limited dividend and non-profit housing companies. You also increased the funds available for housing loans to individuals and revised the terms on which such loans may be made.
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At no session since the Criminal Code was introduced in Canada have there been such extensive and fundamental amendments of the criminal law. The amendments which you approved reflected the concern of Canadians that criminal sanctions be employed to protect public order, but not to enforce private beliefs.
It was this concern about the use of legal controls to regulate private conduct which caused the Government to establish a committee of enquiry into the non-medical use of drugs.
You have directed your attention to the high cost of the medical use of drugs and by assuring competition in their production and sale without prejudice to safety standards, you have strengthened the position of Canadian consumers.
You have also approved legislation that will protect Canadian consumers from the dangers of certain hazardous products which may be available on our markets.
In order to improve the quality of health, recreation and competitive sport in Canada, the Government tabled the Report of the Task Force on Sport and implemented a substantial number of its recommendations.
Labour disputes of major concern to the national interest were considered by Parliament. Anxious to improve many aspects of management-labour relations, the Government tabled a Task Force Report on Labour Relations which wil provide the background for legislation to be introduced in the next session.
During this session, you have enacted a number of measures to give financial assistance to the farming community. You have extended the provisions of the Prairie Grain Advance Payment Act to provide further liquidity to the farmers of Western Canada. The Farm Improvement Loans Act, the Farm Syndicates Credit Act, and the Farm Credit Act have all been expanded in their application. You have approved a measure to regulate plant quarantine, and to provide or extend compensation for losses due to pesticide residues, animal contagious diseases, and plants destroyed to prevent the spread of disease.
A new measure which you have enacted established the Freshwater Fish Marketing Corporation to improve marketing opportunities for the fisheries industries of Western Canada. The Government has also provided special assistance to the producers of the Atlantic fisheries to help them through a difficult period.
The creation of the new Department of Communications sought to consolidate the responsibilities of the Government of Canada in that field and to assure that recent advances in technology would be made available to Canadians. You approved amendments to the Post Office Act, and a study of the future development of the Post Office was undertaken. An imaginative piece of legislation established Telesat Canada which will provide this country with communications from a synchronous satellite early in the next decade.
In the face of encouraging prospects of resource development in the Yukon and Northwest Territories, you have approved the Oil and Gas Production and Conservation Act which will provide a new system for the orderly development of oil and gas resources.
A number of other important items of legislation were approved in this first session of the twenty-, eighth Parliament which has been distinguished bY innovation and reform. This creditable record; is the beginning of a comprehensive program of legislation which must be enacted if we are to achieve our common goals of peace, justice and national prosperity.
Members of the House of Commons:
Thank you for the provision you have made for the public services in the previous and current fiscal year.
Honourable Members of the Senate:
Members of the House of Commons:
May Divine Providence continue to bless our country.
This concluded the first session of the twenty-eighth parliament.