1909-11-11

DEBATES OP THE HOUSE OF COMMONS OP THE DOMINION OF CANADA SECOND SESSION-ELEVENTH PARLIAMENT 9-10 EDWARD VII., 1909-10 VOL. XCIII COMPRISING THE PERIOD FROM THE ELEVENTH DAY OE NOVEMBER TO THE FOURTEENTH DAY OF JANUARY, INCLUSIVE.


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!P.C., Gr.C.Mi.GJ-., K.C., D.C.JLi. (Oxju.)

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President of the Privy Council	Rt. Hon. Sir Wilfrid Laurieb, P.C., G.C.M.G.,
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Minister of Trade and Commerce	 Rt. Hon. Sir Richard J. Cartwkioht, G.C.M.G.
Secretary of State	Hon. C. Murphy.
Minister of Militia and Defence	Hon. Sir F. W. Borden, K.C.M.G., B.A., M.D.
Minister of Agriculture	 ,	Hon. Sydney A. Fisher, B.A.
Minister of Finance	Hon. W. S. Fielding.
Minister of Customs	Hon. Wm. Paterson.
Minister of Inland Revenue and Mines	Hon. W. Templeman.
Minister of Marine and Fisheries	Hon. L. P. Brodecr.
Minister of Interior and Superintendent General of
Indian Affairs	Hon. F. Oliver.
Minister of Justice	Hon. A. B. Aylesworth, K.C.
Postmaster General	Hon. Rodolphe Lemikux, K.C., LL.B.
Minister of Public Works	Hon. Wm. Pugslky.
Minister of Railways and Canals	 Hon. G. P. Graham.
Minister of Labour	Hon. Mackenzie King, C.M.G.
Solicitor General (not in the Cabinet)	Hon. J. Bureau.
Clerk of the Privy Council
R. Boudreau.

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Hon. Charles Marcil	Speaker.
Mr. G. H.: McIntyre M.P	Deputy Speaker.


Mr.  T. B.@: Flint	Clerk of the House.


Mr.  J. B. R.@: Laplante	 Assistant to the Clerk.
Lieut.-Col. Henry Robert Smith	Serjeant-at-Arms.



OFFICIAL REPORTERS.

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Albert Horton	Chief Reporter.
Stephen Abbott	
E. Joseph Duggan___
J. O. Marceau
Thos.   P.@: Owens	
Alphonse Desjardins.
A. C. Campbell. ___
George Simpson	
R. C. Dunbar


Chas W.: Boyce	Assistant to Chief
Reporter.
V Reporters.



ALPHABETICAL LIST OF THE MEMBERS OF THE HOUSE OF COMMONS

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Second Session, Eleventh Parliament.
Allard, Albert-Ottawa.
Allen, Henry Edgarton.-Shefford.
Ames, Herbert B. -Montreal, St. Antoine. Armstrong, Joseph E.-Lambton, E.R.
Arthurs, James-Parry Sound.
Aylesworth, Hon. Allan B.-York, Ont., N. R.
Barker, Samuel-Hamilton, East.
Barnard, George Henry-"Victoria (B.C).
Beattie, Thomas-London.
Beauparlant, Aime M.-St. Hyacinthe.
Beland, Henri SLverin-Beauce.
Best, John A.-Dufferin.
Bickerdike, Robert-Montreal, St. Lawrence. Black, Judson Burpee-Hants.
Blain, Richard-Peel.
Blondin, Pierre Edouard-Champlain.
Borden, Hon. Sir Frederick W., K.C.M.G.- King's, N.S.
Borden, Robert Laird-Halifax, N.S.
Boyce, Arthur Cyril-Algoma West.
Boyer, Gustave-Vaudreuil.
Bradbury, George Henry-Selkirk.
Bristol, Edmund-Toronto, Centre.
Broder, Andrew-Dundas.
Brodeur, Hon. Louis Philippe-Rouville.
Brown, James P.-Chateauguay.
Bureau, Hon. Jacques-Three Rivers and St. Maurice.
Burrell, Martin-Yale-Cariboo.
Campbell. Glen Lyon-Dauphin.
Carriers, Louis A.-Levis.
Carvell, Frank Broadstreet-Carleton, N.B. Cash, E. L.-Mackenzie.
Champagne, Albert-Battleford.
Chew, Manley-Simeoe, E.R.
Chisholm, Alexander W.-Inverness.
Chisholm, Thomas-Huron, E.R.
Chisholm, William-Antigonish.
Clare, George A.-Waterloo, S.R.
Clarke, Alfred H. -Essex, S.R.
Clark, Michael-Red Deer.
Congdon, Frederick T.-Yukon Territory. Conmee, James-Thunder Bay and Rainy River. Cowan, George Henry-Vancouver City.
Crosby, Adam B.-Halifax.
Crocket, Oswald S.-York, N.B.
Crothers, Thomas Wilson-Elgin, W.R.
Currie, John Allister-Simeoe, N.R.
Currie, Morliy-Prince Edward.
Daniel, John Waterhouse-St. John (City). Delisle, Michel Simeon-Portneuf.
Demers, M. Joseph-St. John and Iberville. Devlin, Emmanuel B.-Wright.
Doherty, Charles Joseph-Montreal, St. Anne. Donnelly, James J.-Bruce, S.R.
Douglas, James M.-Strathcona.
Dubeau, Joseph Adelard-Joliette.
EcRkMENT, Arthur-Berthier.
Edwards, John Wesley-Frontenac.
Elson, Peter-Middlesex, E.R.
Emmkrson, Hon. Henry R.-Westmorland.
Ethier, Joseph Arthur C.-Two Mountains.
Fielding, Hon. William Stevens-Shelburne and Queen's, N.S.	-
Fisher, Hon. Sydney Arthur-Brome.
Forget, Rodolphe-Charlevoix.
Fortier, Edmond-Lotbiniere.
Foster, Hon. George Eulas-Toronto, North. Fowke, Frederick Luther-Ontario, S.R.
Fraser, Austin Levi-King's (P.E.I.)
Gauvreau, Charles Arthur-Temiscouata. Geoffriox, Victor-Chambly and Vereheres. German, William Manly-Welland.
Gervais, Honors-Montreal, St. James.
Girard, Joseph-Chicoutimi and Saguenay.
Gladu, J oseph E. O.-Yamaska.
Goodeve, A. S.-Kootenay.
Gordon, David Alexander-Kent, E.R.
Gordon, George-Nipissing.
Graham, Hon. George Perry-Brockville. Guthrie, Hugh-Wellington, S.R.
Haggart, Alexander-Winnipeg.
Haggart, Hon. John Graham-Lanark, S.R Harris, Lloyd-Brantford.
Harty, William-Kingston.
Henderson, David-Halton.

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Hereon, John-Macleod.
Hodgins, George Frederick-Pontiac.
Hughes, Samuel-Victoria and Haliburton.
Hunt, Aylmer Byron-Compton.
Jameson, Clarence-Digby.
Kidd, Edward-Carleton, 0.
King, Hon. VV. Lyon Mackenzie, C.M.G.-Waterloo, N.R.
Knowles, William Erskine-Moosejaw.
Ktte, George W.-Richmond, N.S.
Lachance, Arthur-Quebec Centre.
Lafortune, David A.-Montcalm.
Lake, Richard Stuart-Qu'Appelle.
Lalor, Francis Ramsay-Haldimand.
Lancaster, Edward A.-Lincoln and Niagara. Lanct&t, Ad^lard-Richelieu.
Lanct6t, Roch-Laprairie-Napierville.
Lapointe, Ernest-Kamouraska.
Laurier, Rt. Hon. Sir Wilfrid, P.C., G.C.M.G.- Quebec, East.
Lavergne, Louis-Drummond and Arthabaska. Law, Bowman Brown-Yarmouth, N.S.
LeBlanc, Oliver J.-Kent, N.B.
Lemieux, Hon. Rodolphe-Gaspe.
Lennox, Haughton-Simcoe, S.R.
Lewis, Edward Norman-Huron, W.R.
Loggie, William Stewart-Northumberland, N.B. Lortie, Joseph Arthur-Soulanges.
Lovell, C. H.-Stanstead.
Low, Thomas A.-Renfrew, S.R.
Macdonald, Edward M.- Pictou.
Macdonell, Angus Claude-Toronto, South. Maclean, William F.-York, Ont., S.R.
MacNutt, Thomas-Saltcoats.
McAllister, Duncan H.-King's and Albert McCall, Alexander-Norfolk.
McCarthy, Maitland Stewart-Calgary.
McCoig, Archibald Blake- Kent, W.R.
McColl, John B.-Northumberland, Ont., W.R. McChaney, George Ewan-Saskatoon.
MoGivkrin, Harold Buchanan-Ottawa. McIntyre, Gilbert H.-Perth, S.R.
McKenzie, Daniel D.-Cape Breton, N.
McLean, Hugh Havelock-Sunbury and Queen's. McLean, Mcrdo Young- Huron, S.R.
McMillan, John Angus-Glengarry.
Maddin, James William-Cape Breton, S. Magrath, Charles Alexander-Medicine Hat. Major, C. B.-Labelle.
Marcil, Hon. Charles-Bonaventure.
Marcile, Joseph Edmond-Bagot.
Marshall, David-Elgin, E. R.
Martin, Alexander Munro-Wellington, N.R. Martin, Mederic-Montreal, St. Mary's.
Martin, William Melville-Regina.
Mayrand, Hormisdas-Maskinonge.
Meighen, Arthur-Portage la Prairie.
Meigs, Daniel Bishop-Missisquoi.
Michaud, Pius-Victoria, N.B.
Middlebro, William Sora-Grey, N.R.
Miller, Henry Horton-Grey, S.R.
Molloy, John Patrick-Provencher.
Monk, Frederick D.-Jacques Cartier.
Murphy, Hon. Charles-Russell.
Nantel, Wilfred Bruno-Terrebonne.
Nesbitt, Edward Walter-Oxford, N.R.
Neely, Davis Bradley-Humboldt.
Nortiirup, William Barton-Hastings, E.R
Oliver, Hon. Frank-Edmonton.
Osleii, Edmund Boyd-Toronto, West.
Owen, C. L.-Northumberland (0.) E.R.
Papineau, Louis J.-Beauharnois.
Paquet, Eugene-L'lslet.
Pardee, Fred. F.-Lambton, W.R.
Parent, George-Montmorency.
Paterson, Hon. William-Brant.
Perley, George H.-Argenteuil.
Pickup, Samuel W. W.-Annapolis.
Portep., Edward Guss-Hastings, W.R.
Price, William-Quebec, West.
Proulx, Edmond-Prescott.
Prowse, Lemuel E.-Queens, P.E.I.
Pugsley, Hon. William-St. John CityandCounty
Rankin, James Palmer-Perth, N.R.
Reid, James-Restigouche.
Reid, John D.-Grenville.
Rhodes, Edgar N.-Cumberland.
Richards, James W.-Prince, P.E.I.
Rivet, Louis Alfred Adhoiak-Hochelaga.
Robb, James Alexander-Huntingdon.
Roche, William J.-Marquette.
Ross, Duncan Campbell-Middlesex, W.R.
Ross, Jean Auguste-Rimouski.
Roy, Cyrias-Montmagny.
Roy, Ernest-Dorchester.
Russell, Joseph-Toronto, East.
Rutan, William Wintfield-Prince Albert.
Savoie, Francois Theodore-Megantic. Sohaffner, Frederick Laurence-Souris.
Schell, Malcolm S.-Oxford, S.R.
Sealey, William Oscar-Wentworth.
Seguin, Paul Arthur-L'Assomption.
Sexsmith, John A.-Peterborough, E.R.
Sharpe, Samuel-Ontario, N.R.
Sharpe, William Henry-Lisgar.
Sifton, Hon. Clifford-Brandon.
Sinclair, John H.-Guysborough.
Smith, Alexander Wilson-Middlesex, N.R. Smith, Ralph-Nanaimo.
Smith, Robert-Stormont.
Smyth, William Ross-Algoma E.R.
Sperry, John D.-Lunenburg.
Sproule, Thomas S.-Grey, E.R.
Stanfield, John-Colchester, N.S.

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Staples, William D.-Macdonald.
Stewakt, Thomas Joseph-Hamilton, West. Stratton, James Robert-Peterborough, W.R.
Talbot, Onesiphork Ernest-Bellechasse. Taylor, George-Leeds.
Taylor, James Davis-New Westminster. Templeman, Hon. William-Comox-Atlin. Thorhrn, William-Lanark, N.R.
Thornton, Charles Jonas-Durham.
Tobin, Edmund William-Richmond and Wolfe. Todd, William F.-Charlotte.
Tolmie, John-Bruce, N. Riding.
Turcotte, G. A.-Nicolet.
Turcottk, J. P.-Quebec County.
Turoeon, Onesiphore-Gloucester.
Turk IKK, John G.-Assiniboia.
Vkryille, A.-Maisonneuve.	*
Wallace, Thomas George-York (O.), Centre. Warbcrton, Alexander B.-Queen's, P.E.I. White, Gerald V.-Renfrew, N.R.
White, William Henry-Victoria, Alta. Wilcox, Oliver J.-Essex, N.R.
AVilson, Charles Avila-Laval.
Wilson, Uriah-Lennox and Addington. Worthington, Arthur Norreys-Sherbrooke. AYright, AVilliam-Muskoka.

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Second Session, Eleventh Parliament.
Algoma, East-William Ross Smyth.
Algoma, West-Arthur Cyril Boyce. Annapolis-Samuel W. W. Pickup. Antigonish-William Chisholm.
Aegenteuil-George H. Perley.
Assiniboia-John Gillanders Turriff.
Bagot-Joseph Edmond Marcile.
Battleford-Albert Champagne.
Beauce-Henri Severin Beland.
Beauharnois-Louis J. Papineau. Bellkchasse-Onesiphore Ernest Talbot. Berthier-Arthur Eerement.
Bonaventure-Hon. Charles Marcil.
Brandon-Hon. Clifford Sifton.
Brant-Hon. William Paterson.
Brantford-Lloyd Harris.
Brockville-Hon. George Perry Graham. Bbomk-Hon. Sydney Arthur Fisher.
Bruce, N. Riding-John Tolmie.
Broce, S. Riding- James J. Donnelly.
Calgary-Maitland Stewart McCarthy.
Cape Breton North and Victoria-Daniel McKenzie.
Cape Breton, South-James William Maddin. Carleton (N.B.)-Frank Broadstreet Carvell. Carleton (O.)-Edward Kidd.
Chambly and Vercheres- Victor Geoffrion. Champlain-Pierre Edouard Blondin. Charlevoix-Rodolphe Forget.
Charlotte-Willliam F. Todd.
Chateauguay-James P. Brown.
Chicoutimi and Saguenay-Joseph Girard. Colchester-John Stanfield.
Comox-Atlin-Hon. Wm. Templeman. Compton- Aylmer Byron Hunt.
Cumberland-Edgar N. Rhodes.
Dauphin-Glen Lyon Campbell.
Digby-Clarence Jameson.
Dorchester-Ernest Roy.
Drummond and Akthabaska-Louis Lavergne. Dufferin-John A. Best.
Dundas-Andrew Broder.
Durham-Charles Jonas Thornton.
Edmonton-Hon. Frank Oliver.
Elgin, E. Riding-David Marshall.
Elgin, W< Riding-Thomas Wilson Crothers. Essex, N. Riding-Oliver J. Wilcox.
Essex, S. Riding-Alfred H. Clarke.
Frontknac-John Wesley Edwards.
GrASPi-Hon. Rodolphe Lemieux. Glengarry-John Angus McMillan. Gloucester-Onesiphore Turgeon. Grenville-John Dowsley Reid.
Grey, E. Riding-Thomas S. Sproule. Grey, N. Riding-William Sora Middlebro. Grey, S. Riding-Henry Horton Miller. Guysborough-J. H. Sinclair.
Hai.ifax-
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Haldimand-Francis Ramsay Lalor.
/Robert Laird Borden.
\ Adam B. Crosby.
Halton-David Henderson.
Hamilton, East-Samuel Barker.
Hamilton, West-Thomas Joseph Stewart. Hants-Judson Burpee Black.
Hastings, E. Riding-William B. Northrup. Hastings, W. Riding-Edward Guss Porter. Hochelaga-Louis Alfred Adhemar Rivet. Humboldt-David Bradley Neely. Huntingdon-James Alexander Robb. Huron, E. Riding-Thomas Chisholm. Huron, S. Riding-M. Y. McLean.
Huron, W. Riding-Edward Norman Lewis.
Inverness-Alexander W. Chisholm.
Jacques Cartier-Frederick D. Monk Joliette-Joseph Adelard Dubeau.
Kamouraska-Ernest Lapointe.
Kent (N.B.)-Oliver J. LeBlanc.
Kent (O.), E. Riding-David Alexander Gordon. Kent (O.), W. Riding-Archibald Blake McCoig. King's and Albert (N.B.)-Duncan H. McAllister, King's (N.S.)-Hon. Sir Frederick W. Borden K.C.M.G.
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King's (P.E.I.)-Austin L. Fraser.
Kingston-William Harty.
Kootenay-Arthur S. Goodeve.
Labellk-C. B. Major.
Lambton, E. Riding-Joseph E. Armstrong. Lambton, W. Riding-Fred. F. Pardee.
Lanark, N. Riding-William Thoburn.
Lanark, S. Riding-Hon. John Graham Haggart. Laphaibik-Napierville-Roeh Lanctot. L'Assomption-Paul Arthur Seguin.
Laval-Charles Avila Wilson.
Leeds-George Taylor.
Lennox and Addington-Uriah Wilson.
Lfrvis-Louis A. Carrier.
Lincoln-Edward A. Lancaster.
Lisgar-William Henry Sharpe.
L'Islet-Eugene Paquet.
London-Thomas Beattie.
Lotbiniere-Edmond Fortier.
Lunenburg-John D.. Sperry.
Macdonald-William 1). Staples.
Mackenzie-E. L. Cash.
Macleod-John Herron.
Maisonneuvk- Alphonse Verville.
Marquette-William J. Roche.
Maskinonge-Hormisdas Mayrand.
Medicine Hat-Charles A. Magrath.
Megantic-Francois Theodore Savoie.
Middlesex, E. Riding-Peter Elson.
Middlesex, N. Riding-Alexander Wilson Smith. Middlesex, W. Riding-Duncan Campbell Ross. Missisquoi-Daniel B. Meigs.
Montcalm-David A. Lafortune.
Montmagnt-Cyrias Roy.
Montmorency-Georges Parent.
Montreal, St. Anne-Charles Joseph Doherty. Montreal, St. Antoine-Herbert B. Ames. Montreal, St. James-Honore Gervais.
Montreal, St. Lawrence-Robert Bickerdike. Montreal, St. Mary-Mederic Martin.
Moose Jaw-William Erskine Knowles.
Muskoka-William Wright.
Nanaimo-Ralph Smith.
New Westminster-James Davis Taylor.
Nicolet-Gustave Adolphe Turcotte.
Nipissing-George Gordon.
Norfolk-Alexander McCall.
Northumberland (N.B.)-William Stewart Loggie. Northumberland (O.) E.R.-C. L. Owen. Northumberland (O.) W.R.-John B. McColl.
Ontario, N. Riding-Samuel S. Sharjie.
Ontario, S. Riding-Frederic Luther Fowke.
Ottawa Crrv-, ;Vbert Allard-
'	I. Harold Buchanan MeGiverin.
Oxford, N. Riding-Edward Walter Nesbitt. Oxford, S. Riding-Malcolm S. Schell.
Parry Sound-James Arthurs.
Peel-Richard Blain.
Perth, N. Riding-James Palmer Rankin.
Perth, S. Riding-Gilbert H. McIntyre. Peterborough, E. Riding-John A. Sexsmith. Peterborough, W. Riding-James Robert Stratton. Pictou-Edward M. Macdonald.
Pontiac-George Frederick Hodgins.
Portage la Prairie-Arthur Meighen.
Portneuf-Michel Simeon Delisle.
Prescott-Edmond Proulx.
Prince Albert-Rutan, William Wintfield.
Prince, (P.E.I.)-James W. Richards.
Prince Edward-Morley Currie.
Provencher-John Patrick Molloy.
Qu'Appelle-Richard Stuart Lake.
Quebec, Centre-Arthur Lachance.
Quebec, East-Rt. Hon. Sir Wilfrid Laurier, P.C.,

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Quebec, West-William Price.
Quebec (County)-Joseph Pierre Turcotte.
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Queen s, (P.E.I.)- |Alexander B Warburton.
Red Deer-Michael Clark.
Regina-William Melville Martin.
Renfrew, N. Riding-Gerald V. White.
Renfrew', S. Riding-Thomas A. Low. Restigouche-James Reid.
Richelieu-Adelard Lanctot.
Richmond (N.S.)-George W. Kyte
Richmond and Wolfe(Q. )-Edmund William Tobin
Rimouski-Jean Auguste Ross.
Rouville-Hon. Louis Philippe Brodeur.
Russell-Hon. Charles Murphy.
St. Hyacinthk-Aime M. Beauparlant.
St. John (N.B.), City-John Waterhouse Daniel.
St. John (N.B.), City and Co.-Hon. William Pugsley.
St. John and Iberville-M. Joseph Demers. Saltcoats-Thomas MacNutt.
Saskatoon-George E. McCraney.
Selkirk-George H. Bradbury.
Shefeord-Henry Edgarton Allen.
Shelburne and Queen's, N.S.-Hon. William Stevens Fielding.
Sherbrooke-Arthur Norreys Worthington.
Simcoe, E. Riding-Manley Chew.
Simcoe, N. Riding-John Allister Currie.
Simcoe, S. Riding-Haughton Lennox.
Soelangks-Joseph Arthur Lortie.
Souris-Frederick Laurence Schaffner.
Stanstead-C. H. Lovell.
Stormont-Robert Smith.
Sl'BATHCONA-James M. Douglas.
Sunbury and Qukkn's (N.B )-Hugh H. McLean.
Temiscouata-Charles Arthur Gauvreau. Terrebonne-Wilfred Bruno Nantel.
Three Rivers and St. Maurice-Hon. Jacques Bureau.
Thunder Bay and Rainy River-James Conmee. Toronto, Centre-Edmund Bristol.
Toronto, East-Joseph Russell.

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Toronto, North-Hon. George Eulas Foster. Toronto, Sooth-Angus Claude Macdonell. Toronto, West-Edmund Boyd Osier.
Two Mountains-Joseph Arthur C. Ethier.
Vancouver (City)-George Henry Cowan. Vaudreuil-Gustave Boyer	.
Victoria (Alta.)-William Henry White.
Victoria City, (B.C.)-Geo. Henry Barnard. Victoria (N.B.)-Pius Michaud.
Victoria and Haliburton, (O.)-Samuel Hughes.
Waterloo, N. Riding-Hon. W. Lyon Mackenzie King, C.M.G.
Waterloo, S. Riding-George A. Clare. Welland-William Manly German.
Wellington, N. Riding-Alex. M. Martin. Wellington, S. Riding-Hugh Guthrie. Wentworth-William Oscar Sealey. Westmorland-Hon. Henry R. Emmerson. Winnipeg-Alexander Haggart.
Wright-Emmanuel B. Devlin.
Yale-Cariboo-Martin Burrell.
Yamaska-Joseph E. O. Gladu.
Yarmouth-Bowman Brown Law.
York (N.B.)-Oswald S. Crocket.
York (O.), C. Riding-Thomas George Wallace. York (O.), N. Riding-Hon. Allan Bristol Ayles-worth.
York (O.), S. Riding-William F. Maclean.
Yukon Territory-Frederick T. Congdon.
Select Committee Appointed to Supervise the Publication of the Official Reports
of the Debates of the House.
Black, J. B.-Hants.
Blondin, P. E.-Champlain. Clark, M.-Red Deer.
Clarke, A. H.-Essex, S.
Ethier, J. A. C.-Two Mountains. Gervais, H.-Montreal, St. James. Guthrie, H.-Wellington, S. Hoggins, G. F.- Pontiac.
Hughes, S.-Victoria and Haliburton. Knowles, W. E.-Moosejaw. McCarthy, M. S.-Calgary.
McLean, M. Y.-Huron, S. Schaefner, F. L.-Souris.
Taylor, Geo.-Leeds.
Taylor, J. D.-New Westminster.
Chairman .-H. Gervais-Montreal, St. James.
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Thursday, November 11, 1909.
The parliament which had been prorogued from time to time to the 11th day of November, 1909, met this day for the despatch of business.
Mr. SPEAKER.: I have the honour to inform the House that I have received the following communication from the Secretary of His Excellency the Governor General :
Office of the Governor General's Secretary, Canada,
Ottawa, 10th November, 1909.
Sir,-I have the honour to inform you that His Excellency the Governor General will proceed to the Senate Chamber to open the Session of the Dominion Parliament on Thursday, the Eleventh instant, at Three o'clock, p.m.
I have the honour to be, sir,
Your obedient servant,
J. HANBURY-WILLIAMS, Colonel, Governor General's Secretary. The Honourable,
The Speaker of the House of Commons.
A message was delivered by Capt. Ernest J. Chambers, Gentleman Usher of the Black Rod, as follows:
Mr. Speaker, His Excellency the Governor General desires the immediate attendance of your honourable House in the Chamber of the Hon. the Senate.
Accordingly the House went up to the Senate Chamber.
And the House being returned.



CONTROVERTED ELECTIONS.

James Kirkpatrick Kerr: I have the honour to inform the House that I have received from the Hon. Mr. Justice Langelier and the Hon. Mr. Justice Jette, two of the judges selected for the trial of election petitions, pursuant to The Dominion Controverted Elections Act, a certificate and 1
report relating to the election for the electoral district of Lotbiniere, by which the said election was declared void.
In conformity with chapter 7, section 70, of the Revised Statutes, I issued my war rant to the Clerk of the Crown in Chancery to make out a new writ of election for the said electoral district.
I	have also the honour to inform the House that I have received from the judges selected for the trial of election petitions, pursuant to the Dominion Controverted Elections Act, certificates and reports relating to the elections:
T'Or the electoral district of Quebec Centre;
For the electoral district of Quebec West;
For the electoral district of Montmorency;
For the electoral district of Portneuf;
For the electoral district of Peterborough W est;
For the electoral district of Quebec county, by which the said election petitions were severally dismissed and the sitting members declared duly elected.



VACANCIES.

James Kirkpatrick Kerr: I have the honour to inform the House that during the recess I have received communications from several members notifying me that the following vacancies had occurred in the representation, viz.:
Of Hon. William Lyon Mackenzie King, C.M.G., member for the electoral district of North Waterloo, upon the acceptance of an office of emolument under the Crown, to wit, Minister of Labour;
Of Franpois Octave Dugas, Esq., member for the electoral district of Montcalm, by the acceptance of an office of emolument under the Crown;
Of Wilbert McIntyre, Esq., member for the electoral district of Strathcona, by decease;
Of Hon. Robert Franklin Sutherland, member for the electoral district of North Essex, by the acceptance of an office of emolument under the Crown;
Of William Samuel Calvert, Esq., member for the electoral district of West Middlesex, by acceptance of an office of emolument under the Crown;


Of Alexander K.: Maclean, Esq., member for the electoral district of Lunenburg, by resignation.



I accordingly issued my several warrants to the Clerk of the Crown in Chancery to make out new writs of election for the said electoral districts, respectively.



NEW MEMBERS.

James Kirkpatrick Kerr: I have also the honour to inform the House that during the recess the Clerk of the House has received from the Clerk of the Crown in Chancery, certificates of the election and return of the following members, viz.:
Of Hon. William Lyon Mackenzie King, C.M.G., for the electoral district of North Waterloo;


Of David A.: Lafortune, Esq., for the electoral district of Montcalm ;
Of Edmond Fortier, Esq., for the electoral district of Lotbiniere;
Of James McCrie Douglas, Esq., for the electoral district of Strathcona.



MEMBERS INTRODUCED.

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Hon. William Lyon Mackenzie King, C.M.G., member for the electoral district of North Waterloo; introduced by Rt. Hon. Sir Wilfrid Laurier and Hon. Geo. P. Graham.
David A.: Lafortune, Esq., member for the electoral district of Montcalm; introduced by Rt. Hon. Sir Wilfrid Laurier "and Hon. L. P. Brodeur.
James McCrie Douglas, Esq., member for the electoral district of Strathcona; introduced by Rt. Hon. Sir Wilfrid Laurier and Hon. Frank Oliver.



FIRST READING.

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Bill (No. 1) respecting the administration of Oaths of Office.-Rt. Hon. Sir Wilfrid Laurier (Prime Minister).

James Kirkpatrick Kerr: I have the honour to inform the House that when the House did attend His Excellency the Governor General this day in the Senate Chamber, His Excellency was pleased to make a speech to both Houses of parliament. To prevent mistakes I have obtained a copy, which is as follows:
Honourable Gentlemen of the Senate: Gentlemen of the House of Commons:
In again meeting you at a season most convenient for the despatch of business, it is with great pleasure that I congratulate you on the prosperous condition of the country.
The present year, which is now rapidly drawing to a close, has been a period of steady and progressive growth. Immigration has poured into the new settlements of the north and of the west, in a copious and well ordered stream, drawn from the best elements of the British Isles, the United States and Continen-Mr. SPEAKER.
tal Europe. Trade and commerce have made rapid advances in all directions. The revenue has almost completely regained what it had lost in the recent period of depression. Most remarkable has been the rapid recovery from the financial embarrassment which for a short time was the cause of anxiety amongst business men. In nearly every branch of business there has been a revival of activity which gives assurance of continued progress and prosperity.
Two members of my government attended the Imperial Conference called by His Majesty's government, on the question of defence. A plan was adopted after consultation with the Admiralty, for the organization of a Canadian Naval Service, on the lines of the resolution of the House .of Commons, of the 29th of March last. The papers will be immediately brought down and a Bill introduced accordingly.
The new convention between His Majesty and the President of the French Republic, respecting the commercial relations between France and Canada, having been approved by the French Legislative Chambers, you will also be asked to confirm it.
The construction of the Transcontinental railway has made substantial advance during the year. The western division has been extended 66 miles beyond Edmonton, completing a total distance of 861 miles west of Winnipeg. Contracts have been let for 399 miles in the Mountain division; good progress was made on this work. The eastern division is now open for traffic from Winnipeg to Lake Superior Junction and thence, by the Grand Trunk Pacific branch, to the lake itself. The whole of the work between Winnipeg and Moncton is now under contract.
The board of engineers entrusted with the preparation of plans for the reconstruction of the Quebec bridge has sufficiently advanced its work to permit of tenders being invited for the substructure.
The exploratory surveys for a railway from the western wheat fields to Hudson Bay were pushed energetically during the whole of last summer. It is hoped that a report of the operations will be placed before you at an early date.
In order to improve the facilities already afforded the public by the government railways, and to enhance their value as part of the great transportation system of Canada', a Bill will be submitted to you for the purpose of enabling the Minister of Railways, on the recommendation of the Government Railways Managing Board, and subject to the approval

of parliament, to lease any line or lines connecting with the Intercolonial railway.
A measure will he submitted to you for the purpose of rendering more effective the present legislation respecting combinations which unduly enhance prices.
Bills will also be introduced respecting banks and banking, insurance, navigable waters, and other matters.
Gentlemen of the Souse of Commons:
The accounts of the last year will be laid before you.
The estimates for the coming fiscal year will be submitted for your approval at an early date.
Honourable Gentlemen of the Senate: Gentlemen of the House of Commons:
I pray the Almighty Lord that He may guide and bless your deliberations, and that they may bear fruit in a further increase of our country's prosperity and well-being.


Right Hon.   S@: That the speech of His Excellency the Governor General to both Houses be taken into consideration on Monday next.
He said: I ask for Monday at the request of several members who are not prepared to commence the debate to-morrow.


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Motion agreed to.

Right Hon.   S@: That a special committee be appointed to prepare and report, with all convenient speed, lists of members to compose the select standing committees of this House under rule 10, said committee to be composed of Sir Wilfrid Laurier, and Messieurs Borden, Paterson, Fielding, Haggart (Lanark), Pardee and Taylor (Leeds), and that portion of rule 10 limiting the number of members of the said committee be suspended in relation thereto.


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Motion agreed to.

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Report of the Joint Librarians of Parliament.-Mr. Speaker.

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Sir WILFRID LAURIER moved the adjournment of the House.
Mr. R. L. BORDEN.: Before the House adjourns, I would like to mention, what I have already intimated privately to the Prime Minister, that to-morrow, probably on the motion to adjourn, we would like to discuss some delays in judicial appointments in the province of British Columbia, li
I would like to ask the Prime Minister when we may expect to have laid upon the table of the House the report of the-proceedings of the recent Defence Conference; also whether there are any documents relating to the treaty with the French Republic which have not been brought down, and which ought to be brought down; also whether the government has in its possession any reports or information which ought to be laid upon the table of the House touching the operation of the recent United States tariff, more especially as it may possibly be affected by any treaty obligations into which the country has entered or may propose to enter; also whether there are any documents or any information of any character touching the position of the Waterways Treaty which the government propose to lay upon the table of the House.
I would like also to inquire whether or not the report of the resignation of Mr. Hugh D. Lumsden as chief engineer of the Transcontinental Railway is correct, and whether the government intend laying the papers touching that matter upon the table of the House.


Sir WILFRID LAURIER.: I do not know whether my memory will be equal to the task laid upon me by my hon. friend (Mr. R. L. Borden). He seems to be in an inquisitive mood. With regard to the conference which took place in London, I cannot tell him when the correspondence will be laid on the table, but I hope it will be early next week. As to the treaty, I am not aware of any such correspondence. As to the United States tariff, perhaps the Finance Minister (Mr. Fielding) can give my hon. friend some information.


Hon. W. S. ETELDING (Minister of Finance).: As to the French treaty, all the papers having any bearing on the subject were submitted to the House last session Nothing has occurred since that time. At the moment, I am not aware of any papers on the subject to be laid before the House, but T will make inquiry, and if there are any, I will bring them down. As to the American tariff, there is no correspondence on that subject. Each of us may have his own impression as to what the effect of the tariff may be on Canadian affairs. But, inasmuch as we are not able, at present, to forecast what may be the judgment of the United States government in regard to the interpretation and application of the tariff, we did not think it expedient that the government should at present take any action or make any statement on the subject. The proper course, we thought, would be to await the action which the United States government, in its wisdom, may see fit to take with regard to the minimum and maximum tariff.


Wilfrid Laurier: As to the Waterways Treaty, the matter is under ad-

visement. At the moment, there is no correspondence to be laid before the House, though there may be later on. With regard to the resignation of Mr. Lumsden, I will call the attention of the Minister of Railways (Mr. Graham) to the matter and probably an answer can be given to my hon. friend (Mr. R. L. Borden) to-morrow.


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Motion agreed to, and House adjourned at 3.50 p.m.
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Friday, November 12, 1909.