Debate: WHATS BETTER CAPITILISM OR COMMUNISM
Side: CCCP workers & peasants party

You have done something that happens very rarely on this site, you've changed my point of view almost entirely.You have no idea the depths of respect this statement holds. I am honored. No sarcasm. Sincerely.I'm sorry to have caused such hostility.I was actually getting ready to apologize for my own, but I was up and down voted, so I didn't get the chance.Let's agree on something.Karma is going to ironically turn the tables on this statement and make it difficult to achieve.Welfare is very, very broken...Yup, I knew it; hit the nail right on the head. DAMN YOU KARMA~!Throwing money at people does no good.It doesn't do any good when the rich refuse to give jobs to the poor.Would you, perhaps, be in support of government run system that TEACHES impoverished people about making the right societal decisions?I explained to you why the plight of the poor has nothing to do with their decisions. Being born into poverty and denied the ability to be educated or work is not a choice.But, would you, perhaps, be in support of government run, totally free education for all people of all financial statuses? It would solve a lot of problems for the Lower Class, and better help to uplift them alongside entitlements.Can you please admit that some people are lazy, however?I'm sorry, but no. You cannot make me admit that a single starving person is lazy. Who in their right mind doesn't work hard every day to not starve? Nobody! Because you die if you don't eat! Even if it involves begging and/or breaking the law? That's all work. Entitlements by themselves are not handed out to every poor person, and to the people it is handed out to, it's never enough to pay for food and housing for life for even one person by itself. It's simply impossible, and I know, because my entire family is disabled (except for me, at the moment) and they all get disability checks from a genetic illness. It's just a small compensation for suffering; not enough to eat and live a moderately comfortable slum life. I'm sorry, but we cannot agree. It simply is impossible to not do work to survive. Maybe it's not formal, but it's work. The same way a bear has to work to survive in the wild.I know from personal experience. I worked at a soup kitchen for 1 year.There aren't many soup kitchens, or kitchens of any kind, in the slummy part of town, nor many kitchens that would hire a slummy person to work for them if they traveled half an hour from the slummy side of town just so they can apply for a job. I just don't see it even a little. They'd be better off trying to pickpocket food then attempt going through that grueling process.Watched the same sane people come in and out daily for that year. I found jobs in the newspaper and online. They have access to both. (Public Library).The internet and newspaper require money that the poor do not have, since they need to keep all their money for food, clothing, and meager shelter. As for the public library... how do you expect a poor person, born into that living condition, to live in a slum that has a public library? How do you expect them to know how to get to a local library slightly outside a slum? How do you expect them to know how to look up jobs at the local library when I doubt anybody would even them want them entering the library since they look 'suspicious' either due to ethnicity or uncleanliness of some sort?There are many, many cases of hard working lower-middle class SINGLE moms who work three jobs to support their 2 kids. They aren't on welfare. Why aren't they on welfare?Because they weren't apparently born into impoverish conditions and therefore knew how to handle their situations. It's one thing to be extremely tight on cash and/or in serious debt, it's another to not be able to afford to even bath.Because they MIRACULOUSLY found a job? No!Actually yes, it was because they miraculously found a job... since it's a miracle to be born white and closer to the Middle Class then the Lower Class. It's especially a miracle to be born of a different ethnicity and be closer to the Middle Class then the Lower Class AND somehow convince some business, big or small, to hire somebody who likely doesn't even have a complete high-school education.Look me in the eyes, metaphorically, and tell me that there isn't ONE job in you're city.(Metaphorically looks you in the eyes)There is not a single job in the city I live in that would hire a homeless or impoverished person.MacDonald's and all other big businesses like it would rather have a teenager instead of a homeless person. All small businesses, whom need to compete with big businesses, would rather have an exceptionally talented or educated person instead of a homeless person. That's how it is, here and everywhere. Well... wait... is your town special?Do you see homeless people all the time when you visit various businesses? Do poor people commonly perform everyday services for you and your neighbors?... Of course not. Because truly poor people and homeless people couldn't get a job even if they tried. Which they do. All the time. And never succeed. Because our system doesn't work.I hope this response wasn't too hostile. In all sincerity, I became much calmer when you humbled me.