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Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

In your argument, you also are saying that China could defeat US because "no country/empire is unbeatable"...Good argument, even though China is "less armed and technologically advanced" it can still win against the US.:P
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

Alexander the Great's empire was never defeated =). Instead when he died it split up =(.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

He didn't say no empire went unbeaten, he said no empire is unbeatable. Big difference.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

If conventional war with U.S, probably not. China's territory is too big. Their army is too big, China can draft 350,000,000 people to fight and still have a billion people left to replenish population. The U.S would be left with no one. The U.S might be technologically superior in arms but it's also their weakness. China can shoot down their sats which most US military depends on deal a mighty blow to their force. Without sats the US jets, bombers, carriers, ships,subs would not function 100%. U.S jets would would not dare to fly deep into China airspace without getting shot down. China is increasing their sub fleet to be the largest in the world. They will defeat the U.S navy with subs fleet. China will not go head on with U.S in battles, they will do sneaky attacks to wear U.S down then defeat them in a dragnet. China will unleash their cyber soldiers to weak havoc on U.S systems.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

I agree, america lost in korea, vietnam, afghanistan, iraq and libya. It wouldn't be able to handle the military and political consequences of a war.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

If conventional war with U.S, probably not. China's territory is too big.All of China's major cities are on the coast, America need not invade for to get a surrender. China will unleash their cyber soldiers to weak havoc on U.S systems.America has even more knowledgeable cyber soldiers. Bill Gates is an American, good luck beating the Americans at the game they invented.I see the rest of your posts have already been confronted by others, I need not address them,
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

I think India is Evolving very fast and their population too is almost as high as China. India has some satellites up which can almost see all Chinese military march from x place to x place and immediately send information back. Moreover US is somewhat cautious of CHINA's growth so you can estimate that India will have an ally. and not only the USA but the allies too( I am talking about Allies and Axis Powers).Maybe Axis powers are tired of losing and would love to get on with the winning side at least once. This can be a WORLD WAR 3 too which originated in Asia the first time!!!!
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: It will never happen

You must be Indian because the username you have been using shown us clearly. Indians loved to boast, brag and swank their India military power is raising and almost comparable or marginally behind. But they have no idea their military weaponry, strategy and information were far behind to China. Needless to say, how naive or wishful thinking it was to put India in the same category to the US, Russia and China. These are the three most known powerful countries in the world today. Russia is superpower in the past. The US is the superpower in present. China is going to be superpower in the future. Whereas India is superpower wannabe (fond dream).
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

if you will surf intrnet you would find that india could crush every country beneath its legs other then usa(because of nukes),russian fedration(because its an ally),and a war will china will end in a tie because now india far more stronger than 1961,oprates larger army,more accurate SATs,large missile stock piles,bhramos etc
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

Just thought I'd throw it out there but India has one of the worst air forces in the world, the only way wars will be won now is with air superiority. It makes or breaks a nation. It doesn't matter if you have a million ground forces, if I can take 10 B-2's load each with 80 500lbs bombs I'm pretty sure I could do some damage and ruin those ground forces.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

Todays war winning ability depends on technology, strategy & tactics. China is no match to USA in missile technology as US counter missle / missile defence system is pentplicated & fool proof. China is not even 20 % of US ability & agility. Just few IRBM/ SLBM hitting china economic centers / population centers will make china go back to 18 th century. US will never fight a Naval war , they are not fools...Then chinas desiel subs are not even 10 % effecient as US nuclear subs..China & Russia are not friends.Having nuclear bombs is no use as US will not let any china bomber / missile take off / launch as US air superiorety & missile umbrella of 10 times superior technology will destroy them / neutralise with ECCM / ESM podes...China cant think of haveing a war not even with India as Nuc war is no go; AF need climb high alti 7 while getting down easy prey 2 get shot down...china AF / air crafts are not even 30 % efficient as US; no great naval war as china navy need sail 1000s of MNs with no launch base nearby..war over himalayas India is more clued up...as happened in 1974-75...In cino - vietnam war china lost more men & meterial than ever expected. But china has edge over India today about 30 % more; but in High altitude war fare it is equal...Please study qualitative capabilities, just counting numbers is foolish; yes china can thrash phillipines / vietnam today as they dont have depth of defense, & are in close proximity...China need to build up navy based on air craft carriers if they want take on India; improve quality 500 % too in deep survelliance & strike ability.., thanks
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

Maomao....you forget the U.S has a system in space called the Star Wars program which will shot down and destroy any attempts to take out their sats :) so...bad luck on that....As for the Population...the 1 billion plus Chinese would be totally wiped of the face of the earth by the bombing, from Air, Ships, Subs, Sea..the U.S wouldnt need to land in China until you were totally trashed. You forget 90% of China is in total poverty and the U.S is MORE than able to destroy the airforce and defences and bomb the crap out of beijing and other major cities which would cripple the whole country. :)
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

But if china take the money it wants back then the economic in america falls, thus forth your scary bombers, missiles, subs, soldiers cant do shit and would rebel against the us
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

If China "called our tab" prices would skyrocket in the US to the point at which we'd stop buying their goods and their whole economy would collapse. They'd never do that. So yes, our tech would still be a giant shadow hanging over their heads.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

star wars program during the reagan administration didn't work, and still doesn't work. Nuclear icbms have mirvs which are hard to hit and economically unfeasible
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

Really? Cyber soldiers? Ok. I don't deny China is strong but your arguement is just going full retard.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

"China's territory is too big"- the United States probably wouldn't be able to successfully invade China, but China wouldn't be able to invade the United States either. Invading another country with the intention of taking over serves no purpose in modern times."China can draft 350,000,000 people to fight"- do you really think that they have the resources available to them to be able to utilize that amount of people? They have no where near enough money to arm and ship out those soldiers to desired locations."China can shoot down their sats which most US military depends on deal a mighty blow to their force."- do you really think that its that easy to not only find, but shoot down one of the thousands of satellites the US has in space? Not to mention, they would have to shoot down A LOT of satellites in order to actually deliver a large blow to US communications. China would have to bypass American missile interception and later have to be accurate enough to actually hit the satellite, which is obviously extremely difficult. The US, with its advanced technology, had a hard time shooting down one of their own satellites, and that was just one satellite. Also, the US couldn't do the same with Chinese satellites?"U.S jets would would not dare to fly deep into China airspace without getting shot down."- the Chinese don't even have the technology available to detect American stealth aircraft. Also, considering the different sizes of the two airforces, I think that its accurate to say that it would be much easier for the US to invade China by air, than China invade the US by air. The US has 18,169 air-based weapons. China has 1,900 air-based weapons. There is no chance for the Chinese there."China is increasing their sub fleet to be the largest in the world."- currently the US has 75 submarines and China has 68. I wouldn't consider buying submarines off of Russia a good way to make your navy stronger. The US is also continuing to increase their number of submarines at the same rate, if not at a higher rate, than China."They will defeat the U.S navy with subs fleet. China will not go head on with U.S in battles, they will do sneaky attacks to wear U.S down then defeat them in a dragnet."- considering that the US has more submarines and that probably wont change, it would be difficult for China to "do sneaky attacks." If you consider a dragnet to be the tactic of dragging a net across the bottom of the ocean in the hope of catching a submarine, then that is a really horrible plan. In terms of water-based warfare, China can't win since the US has over double their amount of ships."China will unleash their cyber soldiers to weak havoc on U.S systems."- oh ok.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

no you fail to realize that amrica is so indesicive, so ununited in almsot every thing we do, that by the time we do somthing china will be at san francisico already. also we have a profesnial military which means only willing people join, mainly high shool drop outs, china has a peoples army, their population has to do milittary sevice. also what is americas motivation? again most soldiers who join are army do it becouse they have nothing better with their life, china's motivation is the wealth of america and the fact that you must honor your country. and yes china does have cyber soldiers to destroy us all. in the sense of fat asians with classes sitting behind pcs hacking the crap out of are electronic systmes.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

"no you fail to realize that amrica is so indesicive, so ununited in almsot every thing we do"- can you be a little more specific?"by the time we do somthing china will be at san francisico already"- we would wait for them to fly across an entire ocean to do something? You're an idiot."their population has to do milittary sevice"- dont you mean that their military service has to do with their population? Why would their population depend on military service?"china's motivation is the wealth of america and the fact that you must honor your country"- what does the wealth of america have to do with this? As for the honor part, Americans dont want to honor their country?"and yes china does have cyber soldiers to destroy us all"- a little bit of an exaggeration there?"in the sense of fat asians with classes sitting behind pcs hacking the crap out of are electronic systmes."- that is a very generalized statement. You really have no evidence to prove that.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

Actually to join marines or air force they only except highschool diplomas others will take a ged so no you can not just quit high school and join the military. yes china has hackers behind pcs hacking american systems such as world of warcraft and bioshock and dungeons and dragons so if you believe thier cyber force can defeat america thru hacking video games then ok i guess we should just give up . you say our ppl join because they have nothing better to do with thier lives then you are a fool to join the military takes a great sence of pride and honor to your country and you family and friends and even to strangers you dont even know noone steps out on the frontline and risks takeing a bullet just because they are bored in life they do because its is the responsabilty of ever american to protect what is ours we started out fighting for our country and in the end if we are ever defeated we will go down swinging no matter what our race is no matter what our sex is this is our land our home and aint a damn soul out there gonna ever take it without a fight !!!!!!!!!!!!
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: The US could

I am actually going to be shipping to basic training in under a year with the Air Force, on the course to become an officer.The military holds many amazing opportunities and most branches now are only accepting diplomas. Times are getting tough, and more and more people are shooting for the military.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

EXACTLY!I truly can't believe some people and their ingratitude.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

mudkipz:I joined this website just so I can tell you how horribly ignorant your post is. First off saying our military is made of high school dropouts is horribly inaccurate, yes you can drop out and get a GED but you still have to be know enough to get it, and everyone I know that has ever served completed high school, and I guess you forgot about the 1000's of young men and women in the military academys and ROTC programs. I personally am going to do the ROTC because I believe everyone has the obligation to give back to the country that shelters them. And as for only willing people joining up, I guess you forgot about the drafts for WWI WWII and Vietnam, and probably a few others im missing. And lastly as for america being indecisive and ununited, they would have to be decisive and untited to actually go to war because either the US is attacked, which would bring forth Pearl Harbor like sentiments, or Congress voted to go to war. Now as to the actual topic, if any country went to war with china they would haave allies and china too would have allies, it really all depends on who attacks and what the global situation was like at the time.US-would become a World War with the NATO countries siding with the US and other countries in Asia, and China would be supported by Russia North Korea and Iran and a few other middle eastern countries too.Russia- Russia would be largely on their own for we would side with China because of our massive debt, but the other countries of euorpe might not intervene until russia itself is taken over or looks like it will be for they then will have to face the threat wthat would be total super power china(for both the US and Russia would be defeated)
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

sorry i took so long to respond. but you are right. i am intrigued by my stupidity, but this statement was posted 2 years ago. so its also interesting to see how much i have evolved. how ever you must know that i did not honestly believe most of that, it was mainly sarcasm. why i did sarcasm? i don't remember, but any way, thank you. i have seen my old self on this debate and it was kind of a learning lesson for me you could see at how i used to be when i first joined this site.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

China is a republic for which China has to force people to draft them!! Do you think having a Republic and waging a war against any nation the people will silently see all that is going on?!?They will be on the streets before you know it!! the protests can even bring the army to a halt, abruptly blocking them!!!America being indecisive is the funniest thing I have ever heard!!!They might be decisive now but when a war is waged they are intelligent enough to know the risks of Indecisiveness!!You might think they aren't united but when war looms they can show HOW UNITED the United states of America can be
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

Lol your the second person to attack me on this. this post by me was over a year old and it was filled with sarcasm and idiocy. America would probably win, mainly out of ganking, and of course we still have a superior military.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

You forget that when the nation is in urgency every one unites look at the us response to pearl harbor in 3 months we not only replaced the ships we lost we doubled themalso i feel like half of your post came from some sci fi shit on tv "Cyber Soldiers" really....
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

I say bring it on chinese geeks. You think america doesn't have geeks? Who came up with the internet? some chinese geek - NO ASS HOLE - NO!
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

You are partly right about the professional Army the US has being from the poor but there are no high school drop outs. Most of the US Soldier, Sailors, Marines and Airmen are well educated and very loyal to their country. They also remain in the service because they believe they are protecting their families. You fight harder defending what you perceive to be yours. They live from sun up to sun down hearing the great things our fathers did before them. They also hear the National Anthem and more patriotic songs daily. They get counseled all the time on Loyalty, Duty, Respect, Selfless Service, Honor, Integrity, Personal Courage. Soldiers are motivated to do the right thing usually although it is like any group you have bad eggs in the dozen. The Chinese will have to deal with the same problem. The US military personnel are taught to think for themselves which is the biggest plus to the military. For the Chinese you kill the leaders and the rest fall apart. Leaders are not born they are made like tempering steel. Also every time the US gets attacked or we have something that requires the US people to come together they do so quickly. Do you think the US doesn't have hackers working for it? All of the first hackers were Americans who now work for the FBI. The US also has the ability to feed their troops much better than China. US Military are stronger, better equipped and better trained. They have been fighting 2 wars for 12 years and no complaints. They are war hardened and experienced. There is no comparison.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

"their population has to do milittary sevice."Of course, most countries require their citizens to serve 2 years of armed service in their life times.In fact, i think we have one of the only all volunteer armies, some say its what makes us unique. You really think America is indecisive about war? I beg to differ. We have been at constant war since the 50's non stop, not proud of it either but facts are facts.You are insane to say american troops join because they have nothing better, while the chinese do it for the love of their country. Id say both do it for money, and love of country.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

"we have a professional military...mainly high school drop outs""what is America's motivation? again most soldiers who join are army do it becouse they have nothing better with their life""china does have cyber soldiers to destroy us all"Mudkipz2, you have no idea what you are talking about. Have you ever met some one in our (notice how I can differentiate between "are" and "our") Armed Forces? According to you they are a bunch of high school drop outs who have nothing better to do with their lives and so their fall back plan is to catch bullets for America. You sir are asking to have your dick kicked in so hard that you wont be able to wack off to the fucking pokemon you based your user name after ever again. Not only is your post frought with spelling and gramatical errors, you blatantly respect the Armed Forces who give you the right to be the stupid fuck that you are. If you ever actually had the balls to talk to a member of our Armed Forces you would see that they are the most highly motivated individuals who fight for our country because they want to. If we had a draft like China, we would have to do deal with your pitiful ignorance in the military. Our military accounts for slightly less than 1% of the United States population, and they are truly professional soldier who want to succeed in their jobs. Not an ignorant fucking puke like yourself who sits on his computer and bitches. As for the cyber attacks, yes they happen. They happen every day of the week. But, seeing as your fucking useless hands can still type bullshit like this on the internet, and a useless fuck like you is still alive, I guess our military is dealing with it pretty well. I can not believe the rediculousness of the statements you have put forth. I honestly would not be able to contain myself if you had said something like that to me in person. Now, I don't care what you think, but think twice before you put disparaging remarks about the military that you owe your worthless existance to. At least show respect for the courage in you can't respect anything else.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

America is united in it's leadership, even if the population doesn't have a clue what they're really doing overseas. So there's no fear of Chinese invasion, I think...To come to the point of the military service of most Chinese people, I've been here for a couple of years and you'd best believe it has nothing to do with armaments, or even fighting. Most of it is to instill discipline (maybe a good thing, but still...) by making people march in formation up and down the square. They're not even holding sticks as pretend guns when they do it!