Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

discrimination - acts based on biasanti-discrimination laws - laws directed at preventing/punishing acts based on biashate crimes laws - laws directed at preventing/punishing criminal acts based on biasThe only requirements for the statement "hate-crimes laws are a subset of anti-discrimination laws" to be true is that each definition above be true and that criminal acts be a subset of acts. It is fairly simple English - how are you not getting this?that's not how laws work. They are completely separateYou have no idea how laws work as evidenced by your posts. A) Laws can certainly fit into many categories. Is fair-housing law a housing law or an anti-discrimination law?B) Here's a summary of section (b)(2) of 18 USC 245:Whoever by force or threat of force willfully injures, intimidates or interferes with, or attempts to injure, intimidate or interfere with any person engaging in federally protected activities because of his race, color, religion or national origin shall be fined or imprisoned under this title.And here is a definition of a hate-crime law: a law directed at bias-motivated crimes.You either disagree with that summary, or you have some different definition of hate-crimes laws which excludes that summary. Which is it?Sentencing someone to an extra tens years than what would usually be assigned is not unusual how?That would be like saying we can't pass any new laws because we don't already usually consider something as illegal.If I gave you a 20 page link and said my proof was somewhere in there go find it, I would be an asshole.A) That's not what I did. You were obviously unwilling or incapable of finding cases where the offenders were not white, so I gave you the first 5 I could find with a modicum of searching. The last one had a quote showing how these crimes are prosecuted which specifically rebutted your now admittedly baseless idea of how they are enforced, so I pasted the quote right after the link.B) I can read more than 20 pages...You don't get an extra sentence for saying I'm gonna kill you because if you had the time to say it they will conclude it is 1st degree with or without you saying it. It was 1st degree either way.um, what? Do you type your answer in Swahili and then google-translate it to English?Saying "I'm going to kill you" before killing someone would basically rule out negligent homicide and mean 2nd degree murder, and if the person also indicates their plans in any way, that would generally make it 1st degree. You can get all the way from 3rd to 1st with nothing but speech.If you want to know something, phrase it in the form of a question and people will often gladly help you. Phrase it like an assertion when you are plainly wrong and people will think you are ignorant (or worse).It really doesn't take much effort to compile a list of groups who refer to 18 USC 245 as a hate-crime law:The CourtsThe Justice DepartmentBill Lann Lee, Assistant Attorney General for Civil Rights in the U.S. Department of JusticeCongressThe WhiteHouseInternational Association of Chiefs of PoliceMichigan State Law ReviewPolice Department for University of California IrvineReutersHuman Rights WatchHuman Rights FirstStop HateNational Coalition for the HomelessNational Organization for WomenAmerican Association of University WomenReligiousTolerance.orgThe Leadership Conference on Civil and Human Rights