azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

Well, if you define animal lovers as what you said, then okay, forget my first argument. I don't know whether or not B is true, but my point still stands, if only hypothetically. If a person cannot get very much food, and thus must kill animals to feed himself and his loved ones, he could still love animals without hypocrisy--he doesn't want to kill animals, but he simply has no choice. I'm not sure which group you are talking about in the case of C...do you mean the people who have no choice about eating meat?
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: yes

OK i see what you're getting at. But that's for survival lol. That's different. I'm a vegetarian but if I had to eat meat to live and I do.. does that stop me from being one or was it for my life that I had to break the rule once?Group C - Animal lovers 99.9% of the time are well off. So it's not impossible for somebody poor to be an animal lover... they just tend not to be.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

A. How can you love animals on the same level as humans, that is perverse (I think it is illegal in most areas).B. I suffered a heart attack and had to reduce my meat and dairy intake dramatically. My grocery bills are just as expensive as before. How can you justify feeding livestock when you can't feed people, it has nothing to do with economics. It has a lot to do with hunger and famine. Also it depends on the area and type, if you have to fertilize, irrigate and tend crops that have to be processed to be consumed, they become more expensive.C Animals lovers seldom love all animals and that OK, but hypocritical.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: yes

A. How can you love animals on the same level as humans, that is perverse (I think it is illegal in most areas).Sexual love isn't the only type of love in the world.B. I suffered a heart attack and had to reduce my meat and dairy intake dramatically. My grocery bills are just as expensive as before. How can you justify feeding livestock when you can't feed people, it has nothing to do with economics. It has a lot to do with hunger and famine. Also it depends on the area and type, if you have to fertilize, irrigate and tend crops that have to be processed to be consumed, they become more expensive.wtf are you talking about?C Animals lovers seldom love all animals and that OK, but hypocritical.Animal lovers are people who love most animals i.e. they might love all animals except for the baboon or something.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: Yes

Your heart attack is of your own doing, eating the wrong way, why should we pay for this? You brought it on yourself and you deserve it more than the animals that had to die so you could eat yourself sick!And it is not loving animals on the same level as humans, it's about not being a hypocrite and claiming to love animals while happily eating them!
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: Yes

Almost everyone loves animals. Almost everyone eats meat when they don't need too! Isn't that hypocritical?99% of the population eats meat unnecessarily. It is terrible for the animals. They feel so much pain you can't even comprehend! So to call yourself an animal lover is a bit silly. A lot of people would disagree with me due to culture and tradition but it is logical to say they are hypocrites! Common sense tells us that!
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrites?Firstly, here is what we know as fact: All humans are animals.Secondly, all humans who love another human are de facto animal lovers.And unless a man cannibalizes the flesh of man, he is not a hypocrite by reason of the fact that he eats the flesh of other animals; though he may be a hypocrite for other reasons.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: Yes

De facto by practice, not by law. If you don't practice what you preach then you are a hypocrite.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

Even if one were to pretend that all animals are the same, and loving one kind of animal is automatically loving all animals (I'm not even going to count humans, even though we are animals also)ie: I love my tortoises. If I eat a cow or chicken sometime today, at least part of one, which I inevitably will, that is not a tortoise. I do not love my tortoises any less for eating a completely different species I honestly don't care for one way or another.Further, you've mis-defined hypocrite.It would be hypocritical for me to tell you not to eat my tortoises because it's wrong because I love my tortoises, then to turn around myself and eat my tortoises.In order for an animal lover who also eats certain kinds of animals to be a hypocrite, they would have to tell you that you shouldn't eat animals.Which I don't believe any meat eaters are saying.Ironically, the only possibility for hypocrisy on this debate is from the people saying not to eat animals. If one of you should happen to eat an animal it would be quiet hypocritical. One can only be a hypocrite if they have created some kind of moral judgment for others then themselves not adhered to it.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: Yes

A hypocrite is someone pretending to have virtues/morals that they do not possess. They say one thing but then do the opposite. A hypocrite as well as a non-hypocrite could be judgmental since being judgmental is being critical/disapproving.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: yes

Yes, but animal lovers are people who love ALL animals.Not just love an animal. Animal lovers i.e. love all animals.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

Are you telling me there is not a vegetarian on earth who is not also a plant lover?I love plants and animals. I also love to eat both of them. And I'm not arguing the merits of eating or not eating meat, I'm explaining to you that you have mis-defined hypocrite.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: Yes

Your statement would be better said that you have a love of plants and animals and also have a love of eating them. Said this way you would not be a hypocrite since you do not really love animals in an "animal lover' way which doesn't include eating them. You can be a vegetarian and have a love of eating veggies which is not a "plant lover" which would not include eating them.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: yes

gamerdude94 and kinda(1619)- you should've known that all the meat eaters would have some way of rationalizing their "hypocrisy". sorry that the stupid remarks will always be flowing. regardless, you are compassionate people who i am glad exist out there. i am so sick of these worthless people debating over something that is so immoral. and like me, usually people with true compassion about life, would never consider wearing leather, or using products that had anything to do with destroying a life. if only these animals could use the same tactics against these morons, alot of the cowards would go running. wouldn't it be great to see cows, pigs chickens, etc. be able to have control over human life ? basically, you are correct, but at least the animals these people profess to "love" get the option to live the life all living creatures were meant to have the right to.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

No, but Vegans have a choice not to be animal lovers. Vegans choose not to eat meat as a personal choice, plant lovers allow that without protest. A Vegan that harms other humans are hypocrites i.e. poisoning turkeys to protest animal cruelty is one of the most preposterous and contradicting notions that I have ever heard of. Vegans must be absolute in there belief for it to be meaningful i.e. no animals killed for any reason not just food. I think vegans would find it exceedingly difficult to purchase anything that doesn't contain animals parts.Most apparel and wallets are not eaten, however the animals can hardly lend its own skin. Grain has been genetically spliced to rodent DNA to make it abhorrent to "pests". Medicines and vitamins contain animals. Even pet care products contain animal parts. God gave us molars, canine and incisor teeth for us to be able to choose what to eat. The important issue is not that animals die, it is how they are treated while they lived and how they are killed. I know many ranchers that care deeply for their livestock animals as deeply as they care for their horses. What purpose does it ultimately serve to substitute highly toxic and environmentally unsound synthetics in place of safe animal based products.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

no, a person can defend animals against abuse and the maintain their environment, and still eat meat, so long as the animal it came from was humanely put down. also, animals eat other animals, and humans, despite their intelligence, are animals. it is in our nature to eat meat.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: Yes

Defending helpless animals is a noble cause but I fail to see killing as humane, which it seldom is. Some consider using a tool that breaks a rabbit's neck and then petting and comforting the bunny until it dies as humane. It should be our "intelligence" that tells us this is a very disturbed way of thinking and behaving.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

Treating our pets to the same medical treatment we get is expensive. Most people aren't down to throw $1500 for surgery for their $25 bunny when the bunny needs it to keep living, or to live pain-free. My friend worked at a pet store where he was unofficially in charge of putting down animals that were sick or injured beyond reasonable recovery. They have feeder mice they sell for $1, but it costs them between $25-100 to treat a mouse that is sick or injured. From what I understand, the sick and injured mice they get every shipment would put them out of business if they tried to heal them all. So, as it's usually not financially viable for individuals or companies to give animals human level medical care, and as it seems irresponsible to keep an animal that is living in extreme pain most of these people will opt to put the animal out of its misery. I dont know your experience with pain, but personally if I was faced with having to deal with some of the pain and health issues I've had without proper medical treatment or seek a quick end to it all, it would be a no brainer.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

I don't depend ALL of my decisions on religion, but God does allow men to eat other animals, without punishment. Meat also have proteins, which must be good for our body, if bodybuilders use them. A vegan can take protein supplements, but I learned that to get nutrients from food is the best way. Therefore, eating meat doesn't mean you can't possibly love animals. If an animal lover loves ALL animals, then I'm not an animal lover. I hate biting insects (bees, wasps, mosquitoes, etc.), sharks, poisonous/venomous animals, or any other animals that are a threat to us humans. I like horses, bulls, and elephants because they help us with labors. I like gentle animals like dogs, cats, butterflies, whales, etc., because they don't harm us and adds beauty to nature. I like chickens, pigs, and some sea creatures because they are a source of food. I wouldn't consider myself a hypocrite.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: Yes

Man allows himself to eat animals. There is plenty of protein in a vegetarian diet without supplements. There is nothing wrong with self-defense against animals who wish to do you harm, but most of the problem is with humans not understanding how to live along side other creatures. You would not be a hypocrite because as you stated you are not an animal lover, which is a lover of all animals.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

I love animals. Always have. All I used to play with as a kid were little plastic animal figurines. Even now, I read books on zoology constantly.I also love meat. I crave it if I go without it too long. Oh, and guess what? I prefer to slaughter my own meat. I've slaughtered two year-old calves and countless chickens and rabbits. All with my own knives or just my hands. Oh, and I eat bugs sometimes, too. Does that count as meat? Grasshoppers are the best. Real big ones.Am I a hypocrite? I don't think so. If I'm going to eat I feel the most responsible way to do so is to raise animals in a loving environment and come to terms with what I'm going to use them for. It's always a somber moment when I slaughter something, but it's part of life.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: Yes

Slaughter, knives, hands, crave, meat, countless, baby animals, are not words that equal out to love nor create a loving responsible environment, and coming to terms, somber moment, and part of life are just words to ease a guilty mind doing something cruel. The contrast of your words spells hypocrite. If you want to kill and eat animals then just do it, but don't pretend to love them. You don't kill someone you love.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: Yes

You are not an animal lover , you are a pet lover. Big difference
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

This is a ridiculous notion I am an animal lover but eat meat all the time. In the end the FACT is just because you become a become a veggie does not mean you save an animal's life you just slow the animals death - i.e. you don't eat a cow today but i will eat that same cow tomorrow - so in the end animals are still killed if veggies exist or not its that simple.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

if some one loves animals in this case me so what i eat meat doesn't mean i still don't love animals it is in our nature to eat meat we were given canines for a reason i love animals and would help any animal if it was in need on a moments notice.I do how ever dislike how they choose to treat the animals we eat it should be a more humane way.Just cuz i eat meat doesn't make us hypoctits
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: Yes

It is "your" nature to eat meat. I think an animal waiting in line at a slaughter house would meet the criteria of an "animal in need" and needing help at a "moments notice". Actually your statement of loving and helping animals then eating them makes you a hypocrite.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

i love animals and respect them but i still eat meat. u can say im a hypocrite. but im just a simple human who can't live just by eating vegetables. all i can do is don't waste foods especially meats. not because i love to eat meat. when im a kids i heard a wild boar, chicken and duck scream when people cut their neck to release their blood, which i will never ever forget. to show my respect n sorry for them, is to finish all d meat on my dish, never play with d foods and never waste it. i know many people disagree but this is my ways. and i believe a lot a people out there doing d same thing just like me.sorry for d bad english.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: Yes

At least you are an honest hypocrite :) and it is good that you don't waste an animal that was sacrificed for you.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

Wait, there's such thing as an "honest hypocrite"? .......
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

Who cares, it's our god given right to eat the animals. I love animals and also love to eat them.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: yes

Sigh........If you're an animal lover and you eat meat, then you're a hypocrit. But you're not an animal lover. You're just an idiot.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

BIG Sigh..... That entire statement was idiotic. If you don't consider them an animal lover how can they be a hypocrite?
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

I'm sure man-eating animals feel the same way about you to, only they won't pretend to love you and then eat you. They aren't hypocrites :)
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

Animal lovers that treat animals as if they were humans don't eat meat.In my experience, most animal lovers don't necessarily think they shouldn't be eaten. They are usually just against the cruel treatment to animals. Quick and painless deaths to animals is fine, it's the torturing of animals, ie; veal, that they have a problem with.I don't believe wanting animals to live a normal un-tortured life is very unreasonable.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: yes

I do believe it is a sin to domesticate a species to taylor its behavior and then slaughter them or treat them cruelly (i.e. kill a wolf, ok; but kill a dog that is hopelessly in love with human companionship and I believe you are scum). If you want to be vegetarian, more power to you, you probably raise some decent points, we just don't completely hold the same opinions. If you torture or eat an animal that has been bred over generations to not defend themselves (and also exhibit "human" traits), I hope that someone helps you to die a horrible death :-)
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: Yes

So by your own statement you are also an alleged cowardly hypocrite "(i.e. kill a wolf, ok; but kill a dog that is hopelessly in love with human companionship and I believe you are scum)" Is a wolf not an animal?
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

I love animals very much, they taste great. However, we should try to stop the inhumane treatment of animals.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: Yes

Well, the first place to start would be to stop killing and eating them :) sounds humane enough to me.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: Yes

I find it interesting that meat eaters don't consider the actual killing and eating of animals to be inhumane. As if the cow says, "Sure you can kill and eat me, but just don't mistreat me! Yep, that's why I became a vegetarian when I decided that way of thinking was just ignorant as all get out. Animals are much more beautiful alive. You don't show animals love or humane treatment by chewing them between your teeth, you are not an animal lover but a hypocrite.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

If you love animals, then why would you eat them?I do love animals, but I also understand that we as humans can and do eat meat. While our modern society has enabled us to cut out meat completely yet keep the nutrients that we'd normally get from meat in our system, I still prefer the taste of meat. It does not mean I'm a hypocrite, because I understand that I have a love for animals but that they are food, just like other animals are food to the animals we eat.(And for the record, yes you love eating them, you love them so much you eat them jokes have already been thought of) - Joe that's a challenge for you :)Aww you did spoil my joke.This includes wearing animal products, I developed the belief that if I am going to be in favor of eating animals, I should be in favor of what we can use the rest of their body for. I take a liking to an old belief that if you are going to kill the animal, use the entire animal, so that it's death is just.using animal tested products etc.That I don't agree with. I think if we're going to use animals to test products, we should also test it on humans. I am fairly confident if you put it out there, some humans would volunteer.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

I totally disagree with your statement. Animals eat meat so why cant we humans? I am a HUGE animal lover and I do all in my power to protect them from animal abuse. I do i meat but i dont eat veal. I think it is important to eat meat to be healthy. I am not a hypocrite, obviously you don't know the meaning of hypocrite. Hypocrit: a person who pretends to have virtues, moral or religious beliefs, principles, etc., that he or she does not actually possess, especially a person whose actions belie stated beliefs. I dont "pretend" to love animals. I have pets of my own and i love them with my heart.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

I know, when I go to the zoo and I see all those animals in their cages, I'm like "Oh man...., how sad...., I'm never going to find out what they taste like." ;)I mean, there is a place for all of God's animals...., right next to the mash potatoes and gravy. ;)BTW, did you know that all the sea food they serve at Sea World are their slow learners ;)So no...., I'm not a hypocrit. When I say I love lamb, pork and beef, I mean it. I'm an animal lover. I haven't met an animal that I didn't want to cook and eat. ;)
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: yes

Lol 4 winks. Joe. Are you coming onto me??And you didn't win the challenge. Sorry, you'r a flop.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

Depends on what type of animal lover. For instance, I love animals. I recognize their complex and unique biologies, I appreciate the fragility and balance of life, and I do not take any life for granted. However, I also don't believe an animal has a soul. I think they were put here so we could take care of them or use them as we need, since humans are the current master species.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

There is no proof that animals don't have a soul anymore than there is proof that humans do. There is also no proof that animals are a human entitlement and to be used as needed.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: yes

Right but you're not an animal lover. You may love animals, but an animal lover is someone who loves and treats humans on a level equal to or above humans. Like those people who leave millions of pounds of their fortunes to their pets etc.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

1) How ballsy are you to decide what an "Animal Lover" is or isn't. I believe that is your own opinion not fact. Definition of "Animal Lover" via Collins English Dictionary - a person who feels fondness for non-human animals (fact). 2) As for " those people who leave millions of pounds of their fortunes to their pets etc." How is a pet going to spend millions? Maybe their pets could donate some of their millions to help stop child hunger or build homeless shelters for battered women & children or any of a dozen other worth while causes, just my opinion.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

Don't some religions in India worship cattle and such? The question though is, 'Do you love animals enough to want to die for them?' Instead of eating the cattle that is plentiful, they would rather starve because they think of them as being sacred. What about dog lovers, they love them and would never eat dogs but they eat beef. I dont see how that makes them love dogs any less or be a hypocrite. Some religions believed shedding the blood of animals would cleanse us from our sins, they killed animals daily, and eat them afterwards. This asks the question, who is right. and who's wrong? Another question, is it wrong when animals eat another animal? Different strokes for different folks!
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: yes

People in India aren't starving because they refuse to eat cattle. That's like saying people in poor regions of Appalachia are starving because they refuse to eat stray dogs. People in India are starving because the British colonized the subcontinent, used economic force to make farmers grow cash crops that the British could profit off of, and then additionally sold Indians rice at a rate for profit that they couldn't all afford.
Debate: Animal lovers who eat meat are hypocrits
Side: No

Indians hold the cow very highly - they are just stupid for not eating it, if your hungry you eat no matter what - and we were all "developing countires" at some point so why don' t they stand on their own feet.