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Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

Yeah America could take China in a 1 on 1 war. But if they went into total war they would have 300,000,000 troops & we would have 50,000,000 troops.We would be outnumbered 6-1. But since our warfare is better it might be a tie.India could have 200,000,000 troops 2/3 of China's army. But the Chinese have better warfare than India & most of the Indians are Hindu pacifists.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

Let's clarify one thing, Troop numbers mean nothing in these times other than having the minimal amount. The last time troop numbers meant anything was the Korean conflict where China sent hundreds of thousands across the boarder to die. Without those numbers the North would have surely been defeated and United Korea would exist today. This is not like the early 1900, ww1 or ww2 for that matter, just look at the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan the Mujahideen had over 250,000 ground troop to 650,000 Soviet troops and troop strengths had no consequence on the outcome. It is a new day of war and the amount of troops you can muster no longer dictates your strength or guarantee of winning. Today the strongest asset is controlling the sea's and no Country currently on earth can come close to comparing with the US technologically with our Naval force.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

China has numbers, not technology and power. Just because they have a billion people, doesn't mean their army is trained enough to defeat any nation. An army of up to 300 million peons won't necessarily defeat an army of 50 million trained soldiers.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

How did you know China could have 300,000,000 troops & America could have 50,000,000 troops?Did you read cia.gov world factbook?
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

No. I just pulled some numbers out of my a$$ :)I say 300mil because that'd be 1 out of every 4 people (1.2bil) and 50mil because it'd be 1 out of every 6 people (300mil) and I feel as if China would be able to get more people in a draft than America could, but they might not be as well trained...
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

Well on cia.gov it says there's 300 million men in China fit for military service.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

Haha. Well I guess I'm better at estimation than I thought I was. :D
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

Plus if we do go to war with China we will more than likely have veterans that have actually fought in a war going against rookies in the war department.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

Any war between two nuclear superpowers would be absolutely devastating on a scale never seen before. I, do think, however that the US and a handful of other countries could take out China, due to the fact the America's military spending is far and away the largest in the world.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

Yeah,Our military spending is more so we can hire peter puffers and redo our thinking to accomodate women, queers etc.China is smart enough not to have political crap like that.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

Woah the more people you let in the military the more people you have to fight a much larger army.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

Hey you better watch it, I'm in the military and last time I checked I work with some "Peter puffers" and woman that'll do a hell of a better job then you to load a full payload and bomb the  outta some country. I'm straight but one of the guys at work I don't like so much and is queer but I'll tell you what he knows his shit and he's one of the best at his job and when I need help with the aircraft or I don't know something I go to him.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: The Truth

you are 110% correct on that one i believe that china is smarter when it comes to that. i believe the "women and queers" do have a large role in our military but i also believe we would be doing just as well without them.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

Just because China says it spend $1 on weapons each year doesn't mean it is spending that much...Read carefully: it an ESTIMATED value.it could be $100 off to $100 billion off...China isn't known for its good number tracking books and statistics.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

Ok so it is estimated that China spends 70 Billion on MilitaryThe USA spends 700 Billion on Military, 1.35 Trillion in the Department of National Defense (which is more then Chinas entire GDP), so personally, they could be 500 billion off and the US would still spend more then China could produce ... this isn't a good question, it should be is there any 2 countries that can defeat the US in a war ... answer probably not unless you count the EU as one country ;)
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

All that money is borrowed, china could Fk su over in a split second
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

The amount of money that a country uses on a military is not always a good thing. I mean most of the money America uses on it's military is thrown out the window on pointless wars. Meanwhile China may be spending less money on their military, but at least all of that money goes on progressing in military technology. But the U.S. would still kick China's ass because the U.S. is light-years ahead in military technology. And by the way, the only reason that the U.S. would win a war against a single European country is because of the difference in size of all countries. For example if Norway, Sweden, and Denmark declared war against the U.S. they'd have a really good chance because Sweden is one of the main producers of weapons for the U.S. And Norway would have enough oil to back up all three countries. Denmark would be able to support in technology and stuff like that.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

That's not true give Britain respect they r our second strongest ally right behind Canada and France is also powerful
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: beyond easy

exactly. There is no possible way for china to wage war on any of the first world countries and if they did they would get there ass smeared off the face of the earth, which would piss off a punch of other countries, resulting in a nuclear war unimaginably horrible that would most likely turn earth into radioactive sludge. If using conventional warfare, china, no matter how many of your fantasy cyber or even well trained soldiers, would not, could not, and will never be able to take on the world. Taking the USA is taking the UN, which is asking for there country to be smeared like it was butter.EVEN IF the USA went to war solo (which they wouldn't dare) China's economy would crumble. None of these weapons that you talk about can sink any of our ships, shoot down most of our planes, destroy a large number of our tanks. Even the infantry would be safe. In addition, the morale of the Chinese soldiers is pathetic since most of them are farm boys who are told that the evil democratic Americans will destroy China and there culture. Then they get there ass captured or shot off by war hardened, superior equipped, SMARTER enemies. Those who had survived will be captured and then realize how stupid and idiotic there communist government is. This was exactly what happened in the Korean war where Mcarther went and chewed the north koreans like gum and then spit them out back towards there home land a couple hundred miles back. Then the retarded Chinese came and lost about 1 MILLION soldiers to AMERICAN soldiers. Then the captured Chinese and Koreans realized that they had been lied to and wanted to live in America. Some went home most didn't. Then the pride of the Chinese made them demanded there soldiers back and force them to live in communist China. NOTHINGS changed. Same thing will happen but on a larger scale and full war wouldn't break out because the Chinese would be losing millions of soldiers at a time and would be running home crying blaming the world for all there soldiers deaths.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

Are you stupid, who care about number of soldiers,planes and all that crap, china could rip most of the un to pieces if they wanted there money, they would be forced to sell ammo,guns, bombers, subs,tanks, all tools for war and they would still end up in another great depression screwing the rest of the un, allowing china to kill them all, plus russia would ally with china not against
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

I guess you haven't heard. China has developed and deployed the ASBM (anti-ship ballistic missiles) which gives China the upper hand in sea battles even if China navy is outdated. The ASBM can lock in on a ship at sea and sink it. It has built in evasive maneuver flight program in case it is targeted by the US missiles defense. I don't think they defense system can compensate if the ASBM change paths because the ASBM is too fast. These ASBM are on mobile platform so it would be hard for the US airforce to target. China can produce these ASBM by the thousands for cheap price, can the U.S build their ships as fast? The U.S navy might be bigger but the ASBM is the equalizer. It will denied the U.S from coming close to China shores. Add to the ASMB with the increasing Chinese attack sub fleet arm with the russian shkval torpedo, the U.S navy have little chance to make a shore landing in China. Futhermore，China's missiles will advance to a point where surface warships are irrelevant. The missiles will determine all battles in future. This is a glimpse of where China's missiles is heading.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

As a matter of fact I have heard of the ASBMs. Any ballistic missile America has can lock onto a ship, we have thousands of satellites, we can see and lock on to anything in the entire world. By the way, China doesn't have anything to locate and lock onto our ships with. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-ship_ballistic_missile
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

And the US has had more missile systems more complex since the cold war, therefore we can reduce both navies to 0 in the fight making air force the main way of delivering soldiers and adding (in your scenario) a weight of 2 to the air force, where the US reigns supreme. So either way you compare the militaries, it is 3 out of 3 for the US of A. But in production (as proved and tested the US has the upper hand allowing it to produce more navel ships more quickly then any other country in the world, again 3/3)
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

1) It would never happen. The USA trade with China is to large to risk losing.2) I don't know what you people are smoking, but there is no such thing as a "Cyber soldier"3) China's fleet is not even close to the size it would need to be to transport even a fraction of the so called "300 million" Chinese troops.4) The USA has over 2600 more hydrogen bombs a.k.a fusion bombs than anyone else which spells out for those, who can't see the truth in front of them, total annihilation. 5) Even if the USA resorted to conventional warfare, the US has 12 aircraft carriers that have an average of 85 aircraft. Do the math. That's over 1100 aircraft that can be sailed from pearl into Chinese territory which can indeed hunt and destroy the Chinese fleet to extinction and bomb them to rubble.6) This magical massive submersible fleet is indeed much smaller and is going to slow down in production as soon as Russia runs out of unused submarines.7) Lastly the US doesn't need to conquer all of china...just needs to cripple them and willingly surrenders or just there troops just run out of hope and give up. THE CHINESE AREN'T THAT POWERFUL!!!!!
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

So why doesn't the US attack?Because they CAN'T...US isn't all powerful. They don't even have healthcare.Sad...About point 4)So does China... And they can build... a lot more.1) They have the money - US does not2) They have the mind power - US does not3) They have the area to test them - US does not4) Where does US get their technologically advanced equipment? CHINA!!!!!5) China isn't technologically ADVANCED as the US, but you are missing the point here... They have 1 thing. MISSILESEver heard of that? Yea, the pointy thing that sinks ships.Oh the S-300 missile system owns your "1100 aircrafts" whicht he US can't correctly assimilate.You are basically assuming that China will wait 8 years for all your carriers to return back to the US, refuel, re-arm, and sail to China... 8 years...What is going to make China turn a blind eye for 8 YEARS???774 BILLION of debt is more than enough to cripple the US and send the whole country into a depression it will never recover from.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

"So why doesn't the US attack?"- why would we just randomly attack China?"US isn't all powerful."- the United States is proven to be the strongest country in the world."They don't even have healthcare."- we do have healthcare, its just not public."1) They have the money - US does not"- the US makes three times the money China makes a year."2) They have the mind power - US does not"- um stereotype? The United States can afford to pay its workers the most in the world, thats why we have a lot of the smartest people in the world."3) They have the area to test them - US does not"- if you are talking about atomic bombs, then we do have places to test them and have done so in the past."4) Where does US get their technologically advanced equipment? CHINA!!!!!"- name some of the equipment we get from China. I won't be surprised if you have nothing to say to this."5) China isn't technologically ADVANCED as the US, but you are missing the point here... They have 1 thing. MISSILES"- didn't you just say that we get out technology from China? How could they not be as advanced as us? Also, does the United States not have missiles?"Oh the S-300 missile system owns your "1100 aircrafts" whicht he US can't correctly assimilate."- lol, the S-300 cant even detect some of our aircraft. What do you mean we can't "assimilate" our aircraft?"You are basically assuming that China will wait 8 years for all your carriers to return back to the US, refuel, re-arm, and sail to China... 8 years..."- the US ships don't have to return to the US to refuel or re-arm, we have docks and bases around the world."What is going to make China turn a blind eye for 8 YEARS???"- do you really think that it will take a whole eight years to re-arm ourselves or are you joking?"774 BILLION of debt is more than enough to cripple the US and send the whole country into a depression it will never recover from."- i dont understand, the US already has China's money. The Chinese are not going to be getting it back if they go to war with us. We can just erase that debt. Btw, it wouldn't be considered a depression if the country did not recover from it.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?art=2118&l=en  "Even the US, which has been one of the most vocal opponents of lifting the EU embargo, has managed to sell weapons and weapons-related hardware to China despite its own sanctions, Mr Karniol said." Oh I wonder how?Why doesn't US pay back its 13 trillion dollar debt if it makes 3 times what China makes?Oh right! Its in a RECESSION...Sorry about the whole "China makes your equipment".Yea, China sells them to the ENEMIES of the US...http://www.americaneconomicalert.org/view_art.asp?Prod_ID=2873 "Huawei was identified by United States intelligence agencies as the supplier of fiber optic equipment to Saddam Hussein’s Iraqi air defense systems during the late 1990s, tasked to shoot down American aircraft. Huawei was also reportedly involved in aiding the Taliban regime in Afghanistan. Huawei maintains offices in Syria, Iran, and Burma."http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/china/doctrine/zhenhuan.htm
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

What the hell does that have to do with anything? Your quote said that the US sells weapons to China, not that the US buys Chinese weapons. LOL you just proved yourself wrong."Oh right! Its in a RECESSION"- if you knew anything about macroeconomics, it would be obvious that every capitalist economy goes through booms and busts. What does the recession have to do with this anyway? Do you really think that its going to last forever?"Yea, China sells them to the ENEMIES of the US..."- China sells its own weapons to the enemies of the US. Huawei is a Chinese country. There is literally no connection between your "evidence" and your statements. Neither of your sources say anything about China selling US weapons to enemies of the US.lol, can't you see how much of an idiot you are?
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

Wow. No shit Sherlock! You changed your argument and backed it up with obvious shit. China supplied weapons to the NVA and the Viet Cong in Vietnam, as with Russia. Are you some child scum that uses the Internet to diminish your ignorance?
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

Excellent points, but you don't need docks when your carriers run on nuclear power - means you never refuel :)
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

I like your use of quotations. These people have to understand that, if you are going to state an arguement you have to back it up with a reliable resource. They often say " Russia and China will ally"- Yeah they might of had ties in the past, but Russia and China aren't all that friendly, Russia and China clashed in the Sino-Soviet conflict in the 60s, which resulted in the the Sino-Soviet split in 1969.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

You are an ignorant prick.1) 80% of US weapons and defence system are supplied by BAE.2) The M1A1 Thompson is AMERICAN made. (Relevant)3) Ever heard of the Persian Gulf War, The Coalition defeated the Iraqis in 100 FRIGGIN hours.(mostly American troops)4) Did you see the Mushroom clouds over Hiroshima and Nagasaki-- AMERICAN MADE.5) China's "military" (more like a bunch of Chimpanzees in a marching band) is a joke.6) All in all China "slumbering dragon" is going to suck Uncle Sam's firm Red,White,and Blue scrotum, once it awakens. XD
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

1) US supply their own weapons except for materials like iron2) China does not use M1A1 Thompson...3) The Iraqis are a very different case from China4) Hiroshima and Nagasaki are Japan, not China, besides, US can't use nuclear weapons on China without approval from NATO while China can do it anytime they wish.5) US military is so poor we gave up on Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan you joke.6) All China "slumbering dragon" is going to smash Uncle Sam's firm Red,White,and Blue scrotum, once it awakens. XD
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

1)The U.S. did not give up on Iraq,Pakistan,Iran, or Afghanistan.2) The Nuclear bombs were manufactured by the US.3) The "Slumbering Dragon" comment was not made by me, that comment was discreetly made by a friend..4) The U.S. crushes the Taliban in every headfirst firefight, that is why the Taliban uses "Guerrilla Tactics", similar to the NVA or the VC.5) I never said the U.S. would use nuclear force against China,you joke.6) Most of your sentences don't make sense due to your carelessness,you joke.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

Come down off your high horse, just because someone has less access to information doesn't make them idiots. They aren't the ones full of hot air.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

As far as i am concerned, i am on the ground. I do not care about his access to information, just about his argument himself, don't be a worry wart.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

First off, China is dirt poor. I'm not just saying the government is poor I mean ALL OF FRICKEN China is poor! There taxes are low, the average job pay is even lower and to top it off, your all under estimating the power of a nuclear missile. Just fire one damn Hydrogen bomb on a populated area and it would decimate not only the area of impact, but there would be nuclear fallout! In other words, there would be so much radiation EVERYWHERE. Another way of saying it would be that one bomb or missile that is armed with a nuclear payload would indeed (depends on the area and since we are talking about china I'd say this is accurate) at least five million civilians (Beijing has 13 mil so probably in a good case scenario would be at least 10 mil dead in a second) would be killed instantly AND then the radiation would kill all the survivors within a... im actually not sure but the Hiroshima bomb had a 2 mile radius of radiation and these are on our destroyers AMMO! Also the missles we use have EIGHT nukes on them and each ONE of them is at least 50 times more powerful than the Hiroshima bomb. With one nuke the world would suffer a crisis of global cancer and were talking about a WAR not ONE NUKE! I wish there was another option but yeah, ANY COUNTRY WITH A NUKE CAN DEFEAT CHINA AND THE LONG TERM AFFECT WOULD DEFEAT THE WORLD. China and the USA much less the world would risk the entire world turning into nuclear sludge. Yes, its doable. Easily.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

One very important factor that you very stupidly forgot, CHINA HAS NUKES TOO and based on some other people on your side: CHINA CAN STEAL NUCLEAR TECHNOLOGY
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

You are suggesting that if we war with china and win then our debt and our supplies will just disappear. Get this straight! THE WORLD DOES NOT REVOLVE AROUND CHINA!!! We have other area that we can get common and military goods. We make thirty percent of everything that comes into stock, forty percent from china, and thirty percent from other countries. In some ways that's good because people will start to get jobs And lets say that some how we can't sustain our economy,whats stopping us from making the Chinese give us goods if we conquered them? Also last time we conquered a country we gave them food, jobs, health care, and equal treatment and they became an amazing country...both of them. There names are Germany and Japan. The current economy would make it more difficult to do what we did with them in our current economy but we would be able to make or help china with there politics and economy.