azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I believe because.....

That wasn't really giving an argument of why you believe. In fact, it's not an argument. You're trying to say that you know what people, who you don't know at all, seem to think or know.You have no idea if atheists have no point to life, seeing as you're not an atheist yourself.So argue your point of view, not someone else's.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I don't believe because....

"That wasn't really giving an argument of why you believe."It implied that I believe because it gives me meaning to life."You're trying to say that you know what people, who you don't know at all, seem to think or know."People who I don't know at all? A majority of people I know are atheists who wish to present themselves as ambassadors of their beliefs, so everything they do and say is done because they think it's what atheists do."You have no idea if atheists have no point to life, seeing as you're not an atheist yourself."That's why I said seem because I am merely an observer, I'm not stating that atheists everywhere are souless carcasses, I'm just saying that they (as a whole) seem to have no point in life."So argue your point of view, not someone else's."How is this not my point of view?
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I believe because.....

That's why I said seem because I am merely an observer, I'm not stating that atheists everywhere are souless carcasses, I'm just saying that they (as a whole) seem to have no point in life.Freedom!
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I believe because.....

You seem to imply that being a religious nutter is a good meaning of life.Those who are not religious don't waste their lives thinking and caring about something as pointless and useless as religion.I'd rather have no point in life than have a bad one like just believing in a made up thing called God.I'll answer before you should ask, just in case. I have a meaning for my life, a purpose. It is one I chose myself, as every person should do, not blindly follow something brainwashed into you and that has no logic behind it. No logic other than it is possible to brainwash people, and to be stupid, of course.Out of curiosity. What do you think the meaning of life is?
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I believe because.....

It implied that I believe because it gives me meaning to life.1. I am going to point out all your errors. First of all the belief I'm god does not equal the belief in a life meaning. You must show us the reasoning as to how these two beliefs are inseparable, one can believe in a god without a belief in life purpose (not typical however) or one can believe in a meaning of life and not god. Secondly you are mistakening belief for possession, even if the meaning of life did require god, just because you believe doesn't mean you possess. I can go into a heavily delusional state where I believe I have a trillion dollars however that won't grant me a trillion dollars.  People who I don't know at all? A majority of people I know are atheists who wish to present themselves as ambassadors of their beliefs, so everything they do and say is done because they think it's what atheists do.2. How do you know this? Even if this were true, only as a generalization at best. That's why I said seem because I am merely an observer, I'm not stating that atheists everywhere are souless carcasses, I'm just saying that they (as a whole) seem to have no point in life.Refer to argument 1. How is this not my point of view?You are arguing what atheists point of view is? Be prepared to prove to us you're arguments for how you know this.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I don't believe because....

"1. I am going to point out all your errors."I'm highly confused, I am discussing my personal beliefs based on my personal experiences, I don't see how you are in any sort of position to claim that I've made an error. "First of all the belief I'm god does not equal the belief in a life meaning. You must show us the reasoning as to how these two beliefs are inseparable, one can believe in a god without a belief in life purpose (not typical however) or one can believe in a meaning of life and not god."You are assessing an analysis I made on my original argument, I said that from my point of view, atheists seem to have no meaning to life, which is why I am a Christian and why I believe in God, because I believe it gives me a purpose in life."Secondly you are mistakening belief for possession, even if the meaning of life did require god, just because you believe doesn't mean you possess. I can go into a heavily delusional state where I believe I have a trillion dollars however that won't grant me a trillion dollars."You are taking the logic applied from a situation and placing it in another situation where the same logic appears absurd. If I believe that there is a meaning to life, then I have a meaning for life, the only person who can accurately judge such an aspect is myself.A better application of the same logic would be to say that if I believe I'm happy, then I'm happy. "2. How do you know this? Even if this were true, only as a generalization at best."#Sorry, I know this because (as I clearly stated in my argument) I know them personally. "You are arguing what atheists point of view is? Be prepared to prove to us you're arguments for how you know this."My original argument was the reason on why I am a Christian, because from my observations the life of atheists is highly unappealing. How is this not my point of view?
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I believe because.....

I'm highly confused, I am discussing my personal beliefs based on my personal experiences, I don't see how you are in any sort of position to claim that I've made an error.Well the main reason I disputed, and what I am essentially arguing with you was your original statement that atheists had less life meaning than theists. Also, with all due respect, this is a debate site, the point is to debate, and that is naturally what I am doing. You are assessing an analysis I made on my original argument, I said that from my point of view, atheists seem to have no meaning to life, which is why I am a Christian and why I believe in God, because I believe it gives me a purpose in life.Well in your original argument, you never claimed your statement of personal feelings, a subjective opinion, or simply your beliefs. When I hear a simple statement along the lines of "atheists have no meaning to life" I take that as a determination of reality rather than it being similar to the statement "I feel as though theism personally gives my life more meaning". However I find it a bit irrelevant, as like I have said earlier, this is a debate, the point is to compare our reasoning, our validity of our stances, etc. You are taking the logic applied from a situation and placing it in another situation where the same logic appears absurd. If I believe that there is a meaning to life, then I have a meaning for life, the only person who can accurately judge such an aspect is myself. A better application of the same logic would be to say that if I believe I'm happy, then I'm happy.Like I have said, your original argument came off as more of a determination of reality rather than your personal feelings. Secondly, I feel as though my analogy still stands, you can believe your happy and not be happy at all, how absurd as that sounds, I don't see it being physically impossible to be in denial of being in a state of depression. Though I see your point as it can be subjective, life can mean something to you, and religion gives that life meaning for you.  Sorry, I know this because (as I clearly stated in my argument) I know them personally.I was asking for an elaboration, did they directly tell you this yourself (which I doubt) or have you made those judgements on observation, if so explain to me these observations. I have a suspicion they are judgements of personal bias on them. My original argument was the reason on why I am a Christian, because from my observations the life of atheists is highly unappealing.I find that debateable, and what would be the point of this debate if we weren't supposed to debate on it naturally. How is this not my point of view?Of course, as is every opinion of yours and same goes with me and my opinions.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I don't believe because....

"Well the main reason I disputed, and what I am essentially arguing with you was your original statement that atheists had less life meaning than theists."I had deliberately outlined that these were atheists that I knew and my conclusion was from my observations of them, my purpose was to avoid this sort of backlash. "Also, with all due respect, this is a debate site, the point is to debate, and that is naturally what I am doing."Yes, this is a debating site. The appropriate way to act would have been to find some other evidence which would have shown why my personal experiences are not representative of the majority of atheism, instead you claimed that I had made an error."Well in your original argument, you never claimed your statement of personal feelings, a subjective opinion, or simply your beliefs.When I hear a simple statement along the lines of "atheists have no meaning to life" I take that as a determination of reality rather than it being similar to the statement "I feel as though theism personally gives my life more meaning". However I find it a bit irrelevant, as like I have said earlier, this is a debate, the point is to compare our reasoning, our validity of our stances, etc."When I say my original argument I am referring to my dispute on Saurbaby's response to my first argument in this debate which I created for comedic effect. I apologise if my referencing has caused confusion as it was an error on my part.When you had recently disputed me I had only looking at the argument you were disputing, assuming that was my original argument. I can now see that my actual original argument may have appeared quite ignorant and insensitive. As I said earlier I was trying to make a humourous contradiction in my own logic. I now acknowledge your stance on this issue and agree with it.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I believe because.....

Is this preferable to belonging to a death cult, one that encourages you to spend your life on your knees groveling like a trained dog, in submission to something that lives in your own mind until you finally reap your intangible rewards in death?
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I don't believe because....

I'ld prefer belonging to a "dealth cult" than spending every day of my life for my own personal gain where the only rewards are either sex, money or fame. All of which I know will one day be meaningless.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I believe because.....

You forgot happiness. And I have no interest in fame. I don't see why it's bad to seek sex, monetary success, fame, or happiness in the here and now, the only state of being we can confirm exists (at least to ourselves), and furthermore I dont see why it's better to spend every day working towards personal gain in a post-death fantasy land that may not even exist. If you're going to be selfish, why not be so here, where it matters, and enjoy yourself now instead of focusing your selfishness inward and on something ethereal?
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I don't believe because....

Yet, atheists have more meaning in life than you do, it would seem.We realize that we are only alive now, and that this is our only shot at it.Our meanings are our own, but our meanings are amplified by the fact that this is our only life.You have failed.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I believe because.....

"Yet, atheists have more meaning in life than you do, it would seem."Please provide some evidence that all atheists have a higher reason to live than I do, seeing as you seem to know all about me."We realize that we are only alive now, and that this is our only shot at it."So you spend all your life for personal gain, what good is that to society?"Our meanings are our own, but our meanings are amplified by the fact that this is our only life."But your meanings to life are made up from the society you live in."You have failed."Only by your standards, which no-one but yourself abides by.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I don't believe because....

So you spend all your life for personal gain, what good is that to society?Where does he say that he's spending his life for personal gain? Looks like your misinterpreting his argument in order to make it easier to refute (strawman fallacy)
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I don't believe because....

I've accepted the fact that I'm going to die, and even though I probably won't be happy about it, it still happens. Trying to kid yourself into believing you're doing anything worthwhile is a waste of time. You go to school, you go to work (not even a job you like, but one you have to do regardless because you need to survive.)You might just say you're passing time, waiting for your calling. But, you might die before you get that calling. Not everyone can be the next Noah, and who's to say God will choose you of all people?It's unreasonable to think that we all have a purpose, because fact is, we are only here to continue the human race.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I believe because.....

i believe because it gives me something to believe and hope for.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I don't believe because....

If you're wrong then you'll have wasted your time worshiping an imaginary figure .
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I don't believe because....

If I was to believe in something just to have something to believe in I would choose something fun...like titties and beer!
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I don't believe because....

what do you feel..........yeah god is with me.....and will be forever.let me tell you what is the proof that god is there.......i Can give you thousands of examples too show that god is nothing but a silly false beliefs......little weak mind person
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I believe because.....

1.PEACE COMES FROM WITHIN. DO NOT SEEK IT WITHOUT.2.THE GREATEST PRAYER IS PATIENCE.BUDDHA PROVERBS.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I believe because.....

of course. i belived that jesus died for our sins, and that if you belive in god and follow the ten commandments you will be saved. confess with your mouth, and belive in your heart that jesus is lord and you will be saved.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I believe because.....

I believe simply because I found there to be enough reason for there to be a higher being, and thus studied various religions on the concept of salvation theory. I decided to stick with a moderate Baptist christian stance because I found the Christian concepts of salvation to be the most theologically acceptable/likely.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I believe because.....

Why only one? Why not a hundred? Or a thousand? There could be millions...
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I don't believe because....

Because I looked around and decided that there being multiple Gods to be unlikely.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I believe because.....

I think there could be. It would be more interesting, anyway. I don't think they are omnipotent or anything though. Just much more powerful and intelligent than us.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I believe because.....

Based on what? If there could be one all powerful being, why is there being multiple unlikely?
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I believe because.....

This is the question that will solve any religious debate. It all comes down to this: How do we find truth?I believe that we find truth through the holy spirit. That when we exercise faith by praying and reading scripture; the truth will be revealed. Yes this is faith but it's not blind. Because there is evidence personal spiritual evidence. (yes it's not scientific I know)Others believe that you find truth through your five senses. This is partly true. The scientific method has done much good for mankind. And I believe that god has blessed us with those abilities. I really find it immature to constantly try to separate God and Science. It's really closed minded if you think about it. Yes a lot of Christians are stupid and say they don't trust science but they don't represent the whole christian world!!(an utterly common misconception) Childish atheists usually use them as an example to poke fun at the other side. (note that I don't think they represent the entire atheist world either) So let us be adults and agree to disagree on the point of truth. Considering a huge part of the scientific world is compromise and agreeing to disagree, you'd think that the non religious world would show a little more maturity.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I don't believe because....

Yes this is faith but it's not blind.It is blind. One cannot be truly pious without making an irrational leap of faith. There is no possible way to know in advance whether or not the holy spirit will answer your prayers, or even to assign probability. Therefore, the faith is blind.Because there is evidence personal spiritual evidence. (yes it's not scientific I know)What's more likely? That you were personally contacted by the supernatural creator, of whom there is no tangible evidence, and one who possesses contradictory attributes?Or that you are honestly mistaken?I really find it immature to constantly try to separate God and Science. It's really closed minded if you think about it. Why? Science is a methodology dedicated to discovering truth through repeated research, experiment, and scrutiny. Religion is blind faith that claims to already have the answers, without the need for testing or verification. It is not closed minded to separate them, it's beneficial to the scientists.If you'd excuse my poor analogy, it's why we don't have obese people run the 100 metres, or let retards teach children. It's detrimental to everyone.Yes a lot of Christians are stupid and say they don't trust science but they don't represent the whole christian world!!(an utterly common misconception)This is something that always puzzles me. Who does represent the Christian world? Is it not the bumbling, moronic creationists who reject science? Is it then the rambling extremists at the Westboro Baptist Church? Is it a Kent Hovind type, one who employs strange pseudoscience to make their case? Or is it the bigwigs at the Vatican? My personal favourite would be the ones I know, those that don't need representing, because their beliefs are private, and have no place in public affairs.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I don't believe because....

Why can't spiritual contact be based on empiricism? Because you can't observe spirits.What's your point?That just because you can get answers from something in your head, it doesn't prove that the thing is real.Lots. I don't know about where god came from. I don't know for sure about how the earth was created. etc. I could go on. This is part of why we don't disregard science.But you believe that God is eternal, and that God created the Earth, yes?Interesting. What exactly do you mean by "invoking the supernatural instantly"?The supernatural cannot be tested or verified using natural methods. Therefore, the supernatural disregards the scientific method. So using the supernatural is unscientific.Hmm that sounds irrational. Don't forget to add reasonI gave you my reason.That is all true. Accept for the friction thing. There will only be friction if you let it happen. There is often friction. That is the fault of both sides.I'll accept that.So tell me what exactly does this religion player represent? Anyone who has religious beliefs or religion it's self?Religion itself. OR you could be saying that only atheists should be allowed to be scientists?What on Earth are you on about? I'll give you a chance to explain yourself before I compare you to Hitler.That would be a wise thing to do. What I'm saying is that religion and science struggle to mix. That's it. I couldn't care less whether or not a scientist is religious, as long as he keeps his beliefs out of his research.So are you admitting that you're letting the loud majority represent everyone els? Or is it that you just find them annoying and want to rant?If these are the people on the TV, or in the news, or whatever, claiming to speak for the Christian world, then sure, I'll let them represent everyone else. It's not my job to change that.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I believe because.....

"Because you can't observe spirits."You can observe your own spirit. That's why this is personal. "That just because you can get answers from something in your head, it doesn't prove that the thing is real."1. You can't prove that it is "in your head".2. It's not about proving in the first place. "But you believe that God is eternal, and that God created the Earth, yes?"Yes. But I don't claim to know all the details. I'm not saying it hurts to try and discover these details through science. "The supernatural cannot be tested or verified using natural methods. Therefore, the supernatural disregards the scientific method. So using the supernatural is unscientific."I agree with that. I kind of already made that point. "I gave you my reason."But it was still irrational. "Religion itself."So you're complaining that an idea can't offer brilliant testing methods and evidence? That's silly. "What on Earth are you on about?"That's what I was going to ask you? When you say why let religion on the team what are you implying? "What I'm saying is that religion and science struggle to mix. That's it. I couldn't care less whether or not a scientist is religious, as long as he keeps his beliefs out of his research."What you were saying is that faith is blind and that my personal beliefs are 'unlikely'. But whatever. I would agree if you said that religious people and non religious people struggle to mix. But it's pretty closed minded to separate the two. It's a competitive thing. We both know that science is concrete and you're trying to separate the two to make anyone who believes in god look bad. "If these are the people on the TV, or in the news, or whatever, claiming to speak for the Christian world, then sure, I'll let them represent everyone else. It's not my job to change that."Why don't you just take it case by case instead of judging very large groups of people?