azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am for the wall and MX tax

It is about time to build the wall. Our current border "wall" is a series of walls and fences along the US/Mexico border. It is not contiguous, but rather groupings of assorted walls and fences with a "virtual fence" with a system of senors and cameras that the US Border Patrol can monitor. Is this system really efficient? According to the Migration Policy Institute, about 500,000 illegal immigrants cross the border each year and more specifically 484,072 immigrants in 2011 crossed the border. Walls are old news anyways. Romans built Hadrian's Wall about 120 AD to protect the Roman province of Britain from the "heathens" or "barbarians" who lived in what is now present day Scotland. The Peace Walls in Belfast, Ireland were built to ease tensions between neighboring communities. The walls stopped murders during the "Troubles" period from 1968-1998. Eventually communities subsided and now are on peaceful terms. Isreal built walls to separate themselves from Palestinian territories of the West Bank and Giza. The Israel Defenses Force has released information that in areas where the wall has been completed terrorist attacks and invasions have dramatically declined. Hungary is even on track to build a border wall to keep out would be immigrants. America, it is time we learn from meager fences and build a solid,impenetrable and YUGE border to keep out these "Bad Hombres". Let's face it America, the wall just got 10 feet higher.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am against wall and tax

To continue with your theme of using historical examples of walls, think back to the Great Wall of China that was roughly 50 feet tall and 900 miles long. Even with China's invaders primitive technology, they were still able to overcome the massive barrier The fact of the matter is, walls ARE old news and we shouldn't try to re-vamp antiquated methods that have proven ineffective. Also, not as many "Bad Hombres" are crossing our border to begin with; certainly not enough to warrant a 25 billion dollar wall. Less than 7% of ALL immigrants (legal and illegal, Mexican born or otherwise) have criminal records.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am against wall and tax

There is no such thing as an impenetrable wall. If someone is determined to cross into United States borders, they will do anything. The US already tried having fences to separate borders in some areas but this was proven ineffective. That wall cost $7 billion that ultimately went to waste. Why would we need to build a bigger wall that costs over twice as much when it won't work? The bigger wall may reduce the amount of people that cross over, but it won't keep all of the immigrants out. This large wall will cause even more Americans to live in a "no mans land." No mans land is when American property has been cut by previous border patrol walls and now has its residents feeling like prisoners. Not only will this wall not work, but it will also entrap American citizens living on the Southern border.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am for the wall and MX tax

The wall is a brilliant idea. A lot of immigrants come to America and take jobs , such as, maids, taxi drivers, janitors, and construction workers. This wall will not only prevent them from coming over to our land to take our jobs, but to motivate them to develop their own jobs and stuff. Also some of these immigrants flee from there country because of their criminal background. This increases the crime rate due to the Mexican rapists, gang bangers, and etc. The wall is simply decreasing the amount of problems that we have with immigrants in our country now.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am against wall and tax

The wall is not brilliant. America already has a wall. Trump's wall will cost $49 billion dollars and only has a lifespan of 25 years...who's going to be paying for this? Trump's bright idea is to for Mexico to pay it but there President said no. The problem with the existing wall isn't the structure but that illegals have figured out a way to go over it,, around it, and under it. So what's going to stop them from continuing to do so. The wall will not solve any problems. There needs to be tougher legislation on illegals, regulations on visas, and a non-tolerance for these policies that are already in place!!!
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am against wall and tax

Sure, these are good arguments, but what about the fact that:The tax will make Mexican goods more expensive, and with stagnated wages, harm trade between the US and Mexico. The wall will run north into the US because of geographical problems, and even leave gaps open along the border.There are other ways to get into the US!! What's to stop them from going right around our expensive wall?
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am for the wall and MX tax

The wall is more than just protectionism. Any sovereign nation has the right and in some cases must choose who is allowed into its land. A vast a majority of immigrants have little to contribute to our economy and although they will end up spending money, eventually, most of them are sending a majority of their cash back to their families. It is also unfair to Hispanics that have crossed the border legally. It is not just the typical white beer bellied american male that gets hurt but legal immigrants lose work when an illegal is doing the work for nearly nothing. A more secure border and an improvement to the immigration system that will encourage more immigrants to cross legally is needed. https://www.allaboutpolitics.com/why-might-building-a-border-wall-be-a-good-idea/political-article
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am against wall and tax

What is the wall protecting us from? Immigrants correct? If anything we're probably more of a threat to ourselves at the moment than immigrants. It is unfair to the Hispanics who have crossed the border legally, but the illegal immigrants had to get here somehow. Once they did they're just trying to fulfill what they any immigrant came here to do. I suppose that we're paying for the wall to be built with 20% tax on Mexican goods is fair. Its extremely fair to the people for TPP like me.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am against wall and tax

Actually, a vast majority of immigrants significantly contribute to the economy. "The economy could not have grown as much in the 1990s if there were no immigrants. It is estimated that 22 percent of construction workers are foreign, with 2.4 million immigrants working in the sector. If illegal immigrants were taken out of this system then the costs of housing would go up." Illegal immigration should be prevented because it is not fair to the others, however a wall cannot prevent that. Do not forgot how much contribution immigrants have had to our country. We low-key need them, and the government low-key takes advantage of them.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am for the wall and MX tax

The Wall is a good idea for the fact that it protects our borders and allows the United States government to fulfill its duty of serving its own citizens. There can be many arguments against the wall such as a raise in the price of Mexican imports, a division between nations, and the fact that some data shows that immigrants are not that bad for the economy. While i do acknowledge these reasons, I do not agree that illigal immigrants deserve the right to enter our country. They create competition, but at the end of the day if they are stealing our citizens lower class jobs because they are willing to work for cheaper we are losing out as a country. They are avoiding federal taxes and leaving many lower class citizens reliant on welfare. In addition, not all the money they make is going back into our economy. A good amount of it is sent back to families in Mexico. Trump has provided us a way to pay to protect our borders with minimal repercussions, not to say there are none at all. We need to come to the realization as a country that while it is okay to sympathize with those less fortunate, we need to keep our own safety and economical interests on the forefront.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am for the wall and MX tax

The issue of remittances is interesting. Please make an argument based on the outflow of cash and savings from the U.S. economy to the Mexican.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am for the wall and MX tax

In 2015, Mexico had $24.8 billion in remittance revenues. A crazy stat about that number... It is more than amount of income of their oil revenue. Almost all of this remittance stems from the United States economy. While not all of this is from illegal immigrants, they do play a major role in this staggering number which continues to rise. It rose 4.75% from 2014 to 2015.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am for the wall and MX tax

Building a barrier along a border is a security tactic that has proved successful for several countries, one being Israel. According to David Horowitz of The Conservative Review, between 2000 and 2005 1,000 Israelites were murdered by Hamas terrorists. After the implementation of the Israeli West Bank barrier, this figure dropped 90%. In the United States, these results would be proportional to a near end to the drug trade. This plan, at no cost to the American people, is the absolute best way to keep citizens safe.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am against wall and tax

Just building a wall will not cut it. It sounds good and gets people excited, but it is not very simple. A wall stretching for hundreds of miles will stil require 24 hour surveillance by Border Patrol, because illegal immigrants will find a way to get over, through, or around the wall. Logistically, replacing a fence with a presumably opaque wall will only hinder the surveillance aspect of border patrol. The reality is, a wall or fence can't track or apprehend anyone. Not only that, but 40% of illegal immigrants fly to the America then overstay their visas. A wall would do nothing to combat this aspect of illegal immigration.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am against wall and tax

The wall would not be a good barrier against immigrants. We already have a wall in some places, and it does not keep them out. The bigger the wall, the bigger the ladders will get. No matter how far wide and deep it is, the wall can not fully keep immigrants out. Also, Mexico is our 3rd biggest partner in trade. If we upset Mexico, we could pay more for imports or lose valueable goods.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am for the wall and MX tax

Building a border wall would decrease the number of illegal immigrants coming into the United States. Over half of the 12 million illegal immigrants are from Mexico. These undocumented people are able to avoid paying federal tax. Because these immigrants are willing to work for maybe $24,000 per household, and average lower class Americans are not, the Mexicans take jobs from lower class workers by lowering the price of labor. Also, thousand of tons of illegal drugs are smuggled across the border (as seen in the link below), and a border wall would significantly decrease the accessibility of this illegal import.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am for the wall and MX tax

The wall may not be the best idea for Mexico but it has some strong points. Not only would it decrease the amount of drugs smuggled into America but it would further protect American sovereignty. Americans spent close to $100billion on drugs every year according to a White House report . In 2014 34,840 pounds of meth were confiscated from Mexican cartels. Keep in mind this is only the amount that was found the drugs not found slowly feed into the black market. And sure with marijuana slowly becoming legalized this number will fall. Although I don't foresee hard drugs becoming legalized in the near future, so this is still a problem. Building this wall would prevent this amount of drugs from entering our country and polluting our fellow Americans. This wall needs to be build primary for internal reasons such as establishing sovereignty over ungoverned or unruly lands, and protect America's wealth. Mexico may. It like the 20% tax but in the long run it will be beneficial to our country as well as theirs.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am against wall and tax

Immigrants are all generalized as rapists and drug dealers, but in reality there's no sufficient evidence to prove so. A very small percentage of the 11 million illegal immigrants actually have a criminal record.Some drugs may come from Mexico, but I wouldn't say it's entirely the immigrants' fault that the Americans are buying their drugs. After all, they're not forcing our "fellow Americans" to buy these drugs. These American citizens would find a way to buy them if they really wanted them, whether they're from Mexico or not.Also, a 20% tax on Mexico imports wouldn't be a sufficient way to pay for the wall. With the wall's estimate around $25 billion, the funds would take YEARS to collect. People won't buy as many Mexican imports if there's an enormous tax on them, simple as that. Plus, Donald Trump claimed "Mexico would pay for the wall," but in reality, it's the Americans that are paying, both economically and socially.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am for the wall and MX tax

https://nacla.org/article/why-build-border-wall http://time.com/3801889/us-legalization-marijuana-trade/
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am for the wall and MX tax

I contend that building a wall along our border with Mexico would be an effective method of halting illegal immigration and that a tariff on Mexican goods would be a viable option for garnering the funds needed to pay for it.First, it's of great importance that I provide solid evidence that a border wall would be effective. I'd like to offer Israel's tale as evidence. In 2000 the Israeli government began construction of the Israeli West Bank barrier, a border wall similar in style to the one currently proposed by Donald J. Trump, with the purpose of curtailing violent Palestinian incursions. During the first three years of construction, 73 suicide bombings occurred but in the following three years that number fell to 12. The drop in suicide bombings can almost certainly be attributed to the security barrier. Furthermore, Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu tweeted "President Trump is right. I built a wall along Israel's southern border. It stopped all illegal immigration. Great success. Great idea" on January 28th, backing my aforesaid claim. It should be noted that the Israeli West Bank Barrier is only about a quarter of the length of the US-Mexico border at 410 miles to the border's 1,900 miles but the larger scale of the proposed wall won't necessarily decrease it's effectiveness in comparison to the Israeli security barrier.The next issue to touch base on is the 20% tariff. There are three primary concerns with the tariff. Will it pay for the wall? What effect will it have on prices? What will Mexico's response be? To answer the first, the United States imported $303 billion worth of Mexican goods in 2015. Twenty-percent of that is about $60 billion, three times the amount that is expected to be required for the wall. Obviously US imports from Mexico in the coming year should be at least a third of those in 2015 which, yes, would pay for it. In regard to the second question, Mexico does export a number of different products to the US and the prices of those would be increased for the duration of the tariff, but for most, the brief spike in prices would be well worth the benefit of a secure Southern border. To answer the final question, Mexico is in no position to be belligerent with the United States, especially when it comes to counter-tariffs, if it hopes to come away from this unscathed (aside from the initial US tariff). Eighty-percent of Mexican exports are to the US and any prolonged trade war would cripple Mexico's economy. Questions?
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am against wall and tax

While the Israeli wall was very effective in practice, it was actually labeled as illegal by the International Court of Law and the United Nations because it cut people off from resources and I feel the same will happen with this wall.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am for the wall and MX tax

Do you have any sources that I could see so I understand your view, and would this cut off Americans, Mexicans, or both from resources?
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am for the wall and MX tax

We're the only credible enforcer of international law, therefore, we're above it (at least practically speaking though perhaps not ethically). Besides, the planned wall can be built on our side of the border to avoid cutting off Mexican territory.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am for the wall and MX tax

What type of country do most citizens want to live in? Do citizens really want to live in a country that just lets people (who are not even citizens of that country) come and go as they please? Accodrding to Joseph S. Nye, Jr. there are three types of powers in thei world, economic, military, and soft power. Building a larger and better wall will be very beneficial towards our country in those three powers. While building a wall will be great for protection, the wall will also be a great start to getting our country back. An estimated 90-100 million working-age Americans are out of the workforce. Building a secure border is the first step to getting our country back.  https://www.allaboutpolitics.com/why-might-building-a-border-wall-be-a-good-idea/political-article
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am against wall and tax

America is a country that has been founded by and built by immigrants. I'm not saying that it is okay to have swarms of illegal immigrants in our country, but there are many misconceptions about them, and it's unfair and illogical to discredit their fundamental role in the nature of our country. Also, globalization is a good thing. Opening borders and allowing trade between different parts of the world can only benefit us in the long run. Power does not mean cutting our nation off from the rest of the world; power does not mean adopting the protectionist, overly nationalistic mindset and doing our best to ignore the rest of the world. One thing to think about involving the labor argument is that automation and outsourcing are the main causes of unemployment; not immigrants. People claim that "immigrants are taking their jobs," but a lot of times in reality, they're jobs these people would never even think of doing.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am against wall and tax

Wouldn't that just increase the price of the products that are "Hecho en Mexico"?
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am against wall and tax

Exactly. It's the most stupid proposal I've heard from a world leader.Trump says that Mexico will pay for it... so what does he do? He implements a 20% import tax... which means that AMERICANS will have to pay more for Mexican goods! And therefore, AMERICANS are paying for the wall!For someone who claims to be an amazing businessman, he's not very good at, well, being a businessman.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am for the wall and MX tax

Trump claims to be the best at everything. Doesn't mean he is.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am for the wall and MX tax

Well Nick you aren't to bright not excepted you would be. Want to take a trip back to 2009 ? Yes we will !In one of his first major decisions on trade policy, President Obama opted Friday to impose a tariff on tires from China, a move that fulfills his campaign promise to "crack down" on imports that unfairly undermine American workers but risks angering the nation's second-largest trading partner.The decision is intended to bolster the ailing U.S. tire industry, in which more than 5,000 jobs have been lost over the past five years as the volume of Chinese tires in the market has tripled.It comes at a sensitive time, however. Leaders from the world's largest economies are preparing to gather in Pittsburgh in less than two weeks to discuss more cooperation amid tensions over trade.The tire tariff will amount to 35 percent the first year, 30 percent the second and 25 percent the third.Although a federal trade panel had recommended higher levies -- of 55, 45 and 35 percent, respectively -- the decision is considered a victory for the United Steelworkers union, which filed the trade complaint.Americans didn't pay more under Obama for tires ? Did you miss that fact in 2009 there Nick ?
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am against wall and tax

How does the Obama administration have anything to do with Trump's wall and 20% tax?
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am for the wall and MX tax

President Barack Obama has slammed Donald Trump’s proposal to make Mexico pay for a border wall, but his own administration has spent $75 million for border security on Mexico’s southern border. Since 2013 the Obama administration through a partnership with the Mexican government known as the Mérida Initiative has already spent at least $15 million helping Mexico secure its southern border. With U.S. support, the Mexican government has been implementing a southern border security plan since 2013 that has involved the establishment of 12 advanced naval bases on the country’s rivers and three security cordons that stretch more than 100 miles north of the Mexico-Guatemala and Mexico-Belize borders.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am against wall and tax

You're missing the point.Trump says that Mexico will pay for the wall - but then introduces 20% more import tax. Mexico is not paying extra money, America is.I'm not American, and I also would have only been 10 in 2009, so no, I don't know about this tire thing.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am against wall and tax

So what? What are you trying to prove?I don't think there should be absolutely no border. It's security, and that's important.But a wall is ridiculous - it'll cost billions to build when Trump could be spending that money on healthcare or education or housing.
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am against wall and tax

So youre saying putting a 20% tax on Mexican imports will "crack down" on Mexican imports as it did for Chinese imports. Can you explain how that leads to Mexico paying for the wall? I would love to hear that. Do you have anything to say that is on topic?
Debate: Building the border wall and paying with it through 20% tax
Side: I am against wall and tax

Actually around 1,200 American tire-making jobs were preserved when Obama did this but American consumers paid $1.1 billion extra for tires which then prompted households to cut spending at retailers which resulted in more than 2,500 net jobs lost. If you want to know where i got this from go look at the New York times