azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: No its heratege

I would wear a shirt with a confederate flag on it anywhere in the north, because I don't care what any yankees think about me. I'm sick and tired of them acting like they are better than everyone else, because they aren't. As far as the black people go, who cares what they think about it? If they don't like it, then they just need to suck it up and deal with it. Just because they were kept down for years and years doesn't give them the excuse to act like they are racist against white people, or better than them. And it might be a hell of a lot easier to find a job in this country if the Mexicans didn't take the jobs, and I don't have a problem with them having jobs, it's the fact that they are here illegally and don't pay taxes on anything. It is okay to show your southern pride, I do it everyday, and I don't care who has a problem with it, because they can go the hell back where they came from.
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: Yes its racest

I would wear a shirt with a confederate flag on it anywhere in the north, because I don't care what any yankees think about me. I'm sick and tired of them acting like they are better than everyone else, because they aren't.Ah, inferiority complex.As far as the black people go, who cares what they think about it? If they don't like it, then they just need to suck it up and deal with it. Just because they were kept down for years and years doesn't give them the excuse to act like they are racist against white people, or better than them.And more of your inferiority complex.And it might be a hell of a lot easier to find a job in this country if the Mexicans didn't take the jobs, and I don't have a problem with them having jobs, it's the fact that they are here illegally and don't pay taxes on anything.Sales tax. And it's corporations and large businesses that do the hiring who are to blame. If (I'm assuming you live in a trailer and have 5 teeth) Mexico were to offer you a job making a whopping 15/hour plus fix your teeth, you'd hop the border in a second I'd imagine.It is okay to show your southern pride, I do it everyday, and I don't care who has a problem with it, because they can go the hell back where they came from.Uh huh, and proud of what precisely? Or is it a vague sense of pride you've not bothered to pinpoint?
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: No its heratege

You Seriously have your head in your ass. HOW can you condemn the whole GOD damn SOUTHERN nation?! Every Southerner is Racist because they have that flag oh lord, You need help. I would wear my flag everywhere because I'm proud of it. If i see another flag it think they are proud of where they come from nothing more so it seems to me you are racist against southerns which puts your fingers pointed straight back at you. Hypocrite.
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: Yes its racest

There is no southern nation. There are southern states within the United States however, and I do not condemn any of them. The confederate flag represents a failed coup, one which was sold as State's rights to an undereducated population, but which really represented defending the right of an elite few to continue to enslave a group of people. Waving a confederate flag in the United States is no more patriotic nor representative of a heritage than if one were to waive a Nazi flag, or a Soviet flag while yelling communism will rise again! Southern states by average have the lowest standard of living of any geographic area in the U.S., the biggest gap in between rich and poor, the most cases of racial, ethnic, sexual, and religious discrimination, and are the most likely to reject any effort within the various states to turn any of these statistics around because any politician, activist, or religious leader who does bring attention to these very real problems more common in the south than anywhere else in the nation, will be labeled as not appreciating southern "heritage" -- a modern carpet bagger whether liberal, libertarian, or moderate conservative. That silly flag represents that today, and there is a direct line from the failed coup of 1861 and the "state's rights" branding the elite put on the underlying racism, and the "heritage" branding which covers the combination of racism, classism, and anti-progression which continues to hold back those various geographic areas. People liking that silly flag affects me no more than misguided neo-nazis wearing swastikas. If a skin head tells me that they don't hate, they just think "races" should be separated, it sounds no more enlightened to me than when someone tries to explain "the confederate flag isn't racist it's just pride in the southern heritage." What heritage is the question?
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: Yes it is racist

well your probably not a hillbilly but judging by the swastika you have on your picture, your probably racist.
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: No its heratege

based on a profile picture...not based on my words or beliefs.irrational assumption.
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: Yes its racest

Actually, it is a rational assumption because an assumption is a proposition that is taken for granted, as if it were true based upon presupposition without preponderance of the facts. (Ex: Mike like blueberries, he also likes pie, therefore he likes Blueberry Pie.) It is rational to say that do to the fact the you have a swazstika on your profile picture that you PROBABLY are racist. which is just an assumption, i'm not saying that you are indeed a racist.
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: No its heratege

Or I could be a Buddhist, where you would be making an extremely bad assumption. Or, i could be Hindu.
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: Yes it is racist

considering the fact that ur profile says u are agnostic, i very much doubt that u are either Buddhist or Hindu. In which case, coming to the conclusion that u r probably racist is a viable assumption.
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: No its heratege

Under political party, it said independent, which means that I can't be a National Socialist.So no Nazism either.If I am not any of the people who use the swastika... what conclusion can you come to?
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: Yes it is racist

your really going to use the "Independent" excuse. Joe Lieberman is a "Independent" but hes still a registered Democrat.
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: No its heratege

... but I am independent.So really, your accusation is baseless.
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: Yes its racest

You're some southern hillbilly, confederate flag or not. llllllllllllllllll
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: Yes its racest

I can understand the heritage point of view, coupled with state freedoms. But MAN...why use the ACTUAL nazi flag as your avatar. I mean shit....i'd consider you a racist.
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: No its heratege

I like how it looks.nothing to do with symbolism. symbolism is for the idiots who can't open their minds.
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: Yes its racest

YOU HAVE A BLOODY NAZI SYMBOL AS YOUR PICTURE! YOU ARE RACIST!
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: Yes its racest

Since when has it been the case that heritage and racism are mutually exclusive terms? The Southern States that seceded from the union were trying to defend their way of life and their sovereignty, which was largely underpinned by chattel slavery. So while the former was certainly a reason to go to war, it was founded on a longstanding regime of slavery and racism. As far as I'm concerned, the flag represents both.
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: Yes its racest

It is heritage, which envolves racist slave-owning. Go to hell hicks!!!
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: Yes its racest

Its racist and should be abolished. American Flag only. I mean c'mon...this is the symbol of slavery people
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: No its heratege

How can a flag be a sign of slavery? Slavery was just one of the many reasons for the civil war. What next ban all white sheets from being sold. Just like Muslims there are people that us their religion as a tool for evil,just as some people did bad things behind the confederate flag, same as the Knights Templar carried their flag and so on
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: No its heratege

Do you realize the American flag also represented the United States when it legalized the slavery of blacks for almost a century? Britain also used slaves. Should we be offended by their flag too? As a matter of fact, just about every civilization in the world at one time or another has used slavery. Why should the confederacy be singled out for ridicule?
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: No its heratege

Totally agree If the confederate flag is a symbol as slaver all flags should be as we'll!
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: No its heratege

No, it is not racist.Why only the American flag. America's never made any mistakes? It's not just the South, it's everywhere.
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: Yes its racest

How can't a person call the Confederate Flag racist? Although the Confederacy wasn't formed because of slavery and racism, its flag is still used by racist organizations like the KKK or the Neo-Nazis.
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: No its heratege

The KKK use and used the Stars and Stripes more often and before they used the Confederate Flag and Neo Nazi's use the flag of their country more often than they use the Confederate Flag so by your logic all Flags are racist because of some of the people that use them
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: Yes it is racist

"We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable.That in this free government all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding States."A Declaration of the Causes which Impel the State of Texas to Secede from the Federal Union
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: Yes its racest

"Our position is thoroughly identified with the institution of slavery-- the greatest material interest of the world. Its labor supplies the product which constitutes by far the largest and most important portions of commerce of the earth. These products are peculiar to the climate verging on the tropical regions, and by an imperious law of nature, none but the black race can bear exposure to the tropical sun. These products have become necessities of the world, and a blow at slavery is a blow at commerce and civilization. That blow has been long aimed at the institution, and was at the point of reaching its consummation. There was no choice left us but submission to the mandates of abolition, or a dissolution of the Union, whose principles had been subverted to work out our ruin."A Declaration of the Immediate Causes which Induce and Justify the Secession of the State of Mississippi from the Federal Union
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: Yes it is racist

"an increasing hostility on the part of the non-slaveholding States to the institution of slavery, has led to a disregard of their obligations, and the laws of the General Government have ceased to effect the objects of the Constitution.""The right of property in slaves was recognized by giving to free persons distinct political rights, by giving them the right to represent, and burthening them with direct taxes for three-fifths of their slaves; by authorizing the importation of slaves for twenty years; and by stipulating for the rendition of fugitives from labor.""This sectional combination for the submersion of the Constitution, has been aided in some of the States by elevating to citizenship, persons who, by the supreme law of the land, are incapable of becoming citizens; and their votes have been used to inaugurate a new policy, hostile to the South, and destructive of its beliefs and safety."Declaration of the Immediate Causes Which Induce and Justify the Secession of South Carolina from the Federal Union
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: No its heratege

To all of you who think the confederate flag is racist.......First of all, a racist is a person, a THING; it's a ideology, a belief! So NO would be the "correct" answer. No, a FLAG cannot be racist - it is a lifeless object - it has no feelings and cannot have an opinion. It's the person behind the flag and their purpose for hanging the flag. PEOPLE are racists... FLAGS are part of our American history and Southern heritage. And I suppose you think guns kill people, too, don't you?
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: No its heratege

Your argument only goes to the grammatical deficiency of the debate creator (who also created the positions: "Yes its racest" and "No its heratege", so it's taking a bit of the easy way out).Would you like to address the question as to whether people who fly the confederate flag today and are so enamored with that particular part of American heritage derive any of their admiration from the racial stratification of the civil war era?
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: Yes its racest

The confederate flag is something to be resented in this country plain and simple! Who would want to hold up a flag known for defending slavery only a true and genuine racist would.
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: Yes its racest

I am a white man who has been born and raised in South Carolina, as such i believe we have more of a right to claim heritage on the flag then any other state in the United states. I think the flag represents ignorance, hatred, and discord. Everyone knows the red neck white trash people running around with their Dixie shirts, proudly toting the Stars and Bars. It is disgraceful, we can all agree it may not have started out as raciest, it most certainty become about racism. It truly disgust me when a shameful act of betrayal of the united states is relished by us southerners. In my life i have never seen such a disgraceful display.
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: Yes its racest

not only is it the BATTLE flag of traitors, but it has since come to SYMBOLIZE white supremacy and racial hatred.it has no place on display in any public place where government dollars are at work.you want to put it up over your fireplace to show ppl when they come to dinner, fine.... that way they can know where you are coming from and walk out, if they have any sense.
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: Yes its racest

If someone doesn't think the Confederate flag is racist, walk with one through Harlem and see what happens.
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: No its heratege

The war wasn't actually started over slavery. Abraham actually threw that in mid-war to further piss off the Confederates since most of the Confederate states were big farm country, and a lot of the farms had slaves.In any case, the 'rebel flag' isn't a racist flag at all, but since it's tied to that war which lead to the 'end' of slavery, most people tie the flag to some racist or slavery-based stigma. I'm not defending the Confederates, but the truth is, the flag itself has absolutely nothing to do with slavery or racism.
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: Yes its racest

Yes, the war was largely about protecting the institution of slavery - see my posts on the other side for the reasons the Confederate states gave for secession
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: No its heratege

The south, in general, did not rebel over the slaves being freed- though this didn't stop speakers for both the north and south focusing on it as an issue. The North was not attempting to free slaves, but was rather attempting to limit the expansion of slavery in order to let it die out. The Emancipation Proclamation was in fact put forth during the Civil War, and was applicable only to slaves in the 10 states still in rebellion at the time.There was certainly talk over ending slavery, but this was primarily due to the shift in industries in the north; slave labor is generally only effective when the required labor is relatively unskilled, and uneducated slaves were relatively to completely ineffective in such a role, unlike in the south where the economy was predominately based on plantations. The method of ending slavery was not freeing extant slaves, however- but were rather geared towards stopping the expansion of slavery and letting it just 'die out' as I noted earlier.The Emancipation Proclamation was far more an attempt to weaken the south economically and create a dangerous enemy in the middle of their ranks than it was about actually freeing slaves.The slavery issue was there- no arguing that. But it's overall impact has been greatly exaggerated, the union painted as being 'good guys' far more than they deserved, and the confederacy painted as being 'bad guys' far more than they deserved. I presume this is a case of victors writing the history books- a necessary evil if any sense of unity between the north and south was to be reformed.It should also be noted that while slavery in the US was primarily slavery of Africans, that was hardly the extent of it; calling the flag a symbol of racism is ridiculous, and I think it's perfectly reasonable for it to be kept as a symbol of ones heritage. And this is coming from a northerner who is descended primarily from Irish slaves / indentured servants and Cherokee.
Debate: Is the confederate flag racist? or is it heritage?
Side: No its heratege

Except - yes, they did....Restating the entirety of the line you quoted.The south, in general, did not rebel over the slaves being freed- though this didn't stop speakers for both the north and south focusing on it as an issue. I, of course, said nothing to the contrary.Fair enough- but it is still important to note that the Union had not ended slavery, and even in the middle of the war only ordered an end to slavery in the rebelling states.Lincoln campaigned on eliminating slavery (constitutionally). Upon his election, the south began to secede. Lincoln's then immediate goal was preservation of the Union.These same correlation arguments could be made for any number of things, and you know exactly why they're fallacious. Lincolns platform was generally one of limiting the power of both the federal and state governments, which in practice limited states more significantly, resulting in more overall power in the federal government at the end of the day at the expense of state governments. The state rights argument is legitimate- though slavery was still a factor (as I've noted), it has been highly overstated as such in the aftermath of the conflict and ever since.it's perfectly reasonable for it to be kept as a symbol of one's racist heritage - fixed that for you...Because no black or mixed-race man ever owned a slave, and because no white people were enslaved or put into indentured servitude. Right.And this is coming from a southerner who lived there, has been to re-enactments, and met people who own every different confederate flag there was. Many now will just say they like the idea of Southern Pride (even saw a black guy wearing the confederate flag once), but to deny slavery as THE MAIN factor of the civil war is the true revisionism.No. Denying slavery as being any factor at all in the civil war is revisionism- and people do this. Stating Slavery as The sole factor, or even the main factor of the civil war is also revisionism- and even more people do this. Painting the Union as good guys and the Confederacy as bad guys, because slavery, is further revisionism that persists to this day, and the reasons why have already been explored here. A realistic perspective on the civil war sees the slavery issue as comparable to the taxation without representation issue in the American revolution. Both were very visible, and both were very useful to call for support on either side, but the overall conflict (in both cases) had numerous causes ramping up over generations. Neither was truly the sole or even single largest cause for the conflict, and was at best the 'straw that broke the donkeys back-' at worst, the back was already broken and the donkey wasn't done falling yet.