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Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

"Atheism is [the inmate's] religion, and the group that he wanted to start was religious in nature even though it expressly rejects a belief in a supreme being," the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals said."In this instance the inmate argued that atheism was a religion SOLELY for the purpose of being allowed to start his study group. "The court decided the inmate's First Amendment rights were violated because the prison refused to allow him to create a study group for atheists""Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.""no law respecting an establishment of religion"Establishment =something established; a constituted order or system.Therefor, by actually forcing atheism to be considered a religion is in violation of the law because it institutes that a study group for religion is allowed more so then a separate kind of study group. Not to mention that atheism has always been a kink in the census system. Harder then you think to put atheism into that "other" category. Religion=a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects.Atheism is not a set of beliefs. Atheism is not a practice. Atheism Is not a religion.Atheist=a person who denies or disbelieves the existence of a supreme being or beings.By your logic, believing in ghosts is a religion. So by all accounts, this is a mistake by the Supreme Court that will undoubtedly be fixed in the foreseeable future. Also, the supreme court does not have the right to categorize any believe except in legal matters, so they can say that agnosticism is a religion but that REALLY isn't true. Try again.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

Like it or not our country has taken a stance and the SCOTUS has taken a stand. Atheism is a religion. It is a faith believed without fact but opinion regarding god like other religions. Atheists ban together, they organize and they spread thier worldview.Atheism is a religion in the United States. It has been ruled that way, by the hightest court in the land. That is fact.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

"Atheism is a religion." No actually, it is not. :'(
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

Actually: I came up with my opinions of Abortion without the help of religion. I researched the topic independently, and tried to learn every angle that I could from BOTH sides. I'm pro-life in the definition of I think that every person should have equal opportunity to live, and that people should give the life as much chance to live as possible.I think abortions that are NOT based on betterment for the woman or baby's health is wrong. Why should eliminating someone's chance at life be an option just because it's CONVENIENT for the woman?I care about all people in general having the chance to life their life to the fullest.Not what people in the Bible said about it.And abortion only prevents a child from being a 'bother' to their parents (unless it's for medical reasons). The parents decided to have sex knowing FULL WELL that they had the risk of having a child. But once they are met with the result of sex they want to bail out because they don't want to be inconvenienced with something THEY MADE.If people are going to choose to do something, they need to take responsibility for their actions.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

"Why should eliminating someone's chance at life be an option just because it's CONVENIENT for the woman?"Because it's part of the woman until birth. "If people are going to choose to do something, they need to take responsibility for their actions."You are not one to judge what is the correct way of taking responsibility. I'd argue more but you don't go anywhere beyond the whole "life deserves a chance" stance. You say you read into both sides but I don't believe that as I see no reference to the societal benefits of abortion in your response.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

You did not answer my question libertarian, and I don't blame you.Would you condone the killing of your own family your own children should they become handicapped or mentally challeneged. You said killing this segment of the population was warrented. Just wondered if that included your own flesh and blood?
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

"Would you condone the killing of your own family your own children should they become handicapped or mentally challeneged."You are a dumb shit I have answered that question already a while ago. YES."You said killing this segment of the population was warrented. "Yes it is.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

So let me get this straight for the record Mr. Cant Debate without a Potty MouthYour daughter was in a car accident and became handicapped. You would kill her?Your son had a stroke.....you would kill him?
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

"So let me get this straight for the record Mr. Cant Debate without a Potty Mouth"Potty Mouth? Really? And did you seriously just respond to 1 post when there are at least 5 others?"Your daughter was in a car accident and became handicapped. You would kill her?Your son had a stroke.....you would kill him?"If you go back to my posts(although you have proven to ignore most of my comments so I doubt you will) you will see that I am for the elimination of genetic disorders. Not a damn car crash. Strokes are a common thing. You have obviously NOT paid attention to anything said here, you are a wonderful testimate to the idiocy of the religious ones. You say you looked into the scientific aspects, but nothing is more obvious than your lack of the BASIC logic used in disproving religion. I will post a link in the hopes it will jump start your search into ACTUAL science.http://youtu.be/i1fGkFuHIu0 Until you actually have an understanding of the shit you constantly try to use, don't try. You have not the slightest understanding of communism even though you think you can effectively use it in an argument, you are single minded in all senses of the phrase, you are hypocritical, you are ignorant. The narrow mindedness that you portray is what keeps the worlds problems constant. You mince my ideologies and claim they are wrong, without giving any thought to the means of them. You are, for all regards, a dumb ass. Catticus tells me that you are a female, if that is true I'd be happy to to refer you to an abortion doctor, the last thing this planet needs is your idiocy passed on. I'd love to see what you attack of this, if you attack it at all. You can't say I am not making arguments, I have several pages worth of argument with you, only to be disappointed by your idiotic counters and comments.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

Killing is wrong. But, sometimes there are exceptions that are severe in nature. What if it means passing on a disease? Or if the mother's life is in danger. Abortion must be given an exception in certain cases though not all. Especially the reckless one's!
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

So killing is wrong...but you condone some killings if it fits what you define as moral.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

What I define as moral is what I have learnt is correct and righteous from the World. Certain things require to be excused. There cannot be just an ending. There always is a story. An abortion done for reasons cuz you made out with out protection is Bizzare. But,sometimes abortion is a requirement. My Best Friend's neighbour had an abortion. That abortion was needed cuz not only was she physically unfit but also mentally imbalanced. If they let the baby grow in her, she would probably harm the baby before he met the World. I'm not trying to side anyone's reason. I'm just saying that the World has to work in accordance with the right amount. You cannot just make plain judgments as being in a society where you can place yourself in a million situations where a better choice could have made a huge difference, instead of just opting for a solution that seemed to you had no other choice.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

But you are siding with the side that is pro-abortion. The child in the womb is never at fault, never deserves to be dismembered alive. It does not matter what excuse you can come up with...the unborn does not deserve it. But people like you side against life for reasons that YOU THINK are good enough for it to be killed. You advocate death for the child of the mother who is mentally imbalanced. You said she might damage her baby should she be allowed to continue the pregnancy. You care more about the "what if's" than what actually might happen. What do you think abortion is? Why not take the chance that she might not harm the baby? You want to kill it by abortion anyway...this is a violent act. What difference does it make whether she harms it or someone is hired to kill it? It dies in both scenarios? A woman does have a choice. Allow the unborn a chance at life by doing what is right, or kill it and be responsible for ending anothers life because of selfish reasons, which is morally wrong.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

Yes. I'm siding with abortion cuz it is never just Yes or NO. A lot of wrong things happen. But, they happen for the right reasons. To you killing a baby is all that is visible. I do not say your wrong. I cannot tell you are right either. What kinda solution do you come with if going further is dangerous and not to is equally dangerous. I'm not going to say that there is never a choice. There always is a choice. Look... Sometimes, giving birth to a baby is risky. It might mean the mother's life too... What difference does it make whether she harms it or someone is hired to kill it? It dies in both scenarios?Yeah.. Give birth to it then, when it can fully understand the meaning of pain and let it die. While you could have saved it all the pain. All that torture. Like... We had a nuclear tragedy in India. The birth effects are just preposterous. Kids died when they reached the age of 1 or 2. The mothers were denied of abortions, not by the hospitals but the family members. Some of the women weren't healthy enough for the birth process and hence they died. Even today Women are forced despite their health conditions.I do not say it is right. But, it is never just a Yes or a No. There are always issues. There must be exceptions. To certain things. Certain 'unavoidable' things.I agree with everything that you mention. It isn't wrong. But, I only mean to emphasis on those few things that stand importance too.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

it is a yes or no. Its yes, I am prolife and believe the unborn has a right to live....or no I do not value all life and believe women should always have the right to kill. Less than 1 percent of ALL ABORTIONS are done for actual medical reasons. SAved it all the pain? How do you know it cant feel pain? Abortion is legal dismemberment of a human being WHILE IT IS ALIVE. Now if this is not child abuse I don't know what is. The issue is whether or not the unborn deserves personhood, whether or not women have the right to kill on demand for any reason.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

Less than 1 percent of ALL ABORTIONS are done for actual medical reasons.Hence, do not just tad a process completely wrong saving some regret. Certain decisions are hard to make but important. The reasons are wrong, the outcome is most definitely wrong. If the reasons are unavoidable, there has to be no guilt. How do you know it cant feel pain? We don't have to wait to know if it can feel pain and then end it. whether or not women have the right to kill on demand for any reason.What's important is that the reason shouldn't be bizarre. The right comes only in conditions.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

And who decides whether it lives or dies? Who has the right to do this?So when is that, exactly when it feels pain? Even if it does not feel pain, does not change the fact that what you are killing is a living human being.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

that what you are killing is a living human being.Not at the stake of another Human Being who already has responsibilities. And whose pain is worse and shared bigger. You kill someone in the womb is cruel. When you do not kill someone in the womb when required is also cruel.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

It is a living human being...and you think its ok to just kill it for no reason. Wow. When or what excuses are ok to kill the unborn. Could you make a list....?If you go to Alan Guttmaucher and look up the reasons why women abort...99% are for social reasons, they have NOTHING to do with HEALTH issues. It is sad that you do not value the life in the womb.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

..and you think its ok to just kill it for no reason. I think you should go back and see if I said it is okay to kill a bay in the womb for no reason. Just to have fun or if killing someone makes you happy. Did I tell that anywhere? No.. Could you make a list....?The fetus is poisoned. The pregnancy goes wrong.Either the mother or the baby can be saved.99% are for social reasons,I wasn't here to defend myself, but I told you I'm not 'for' such abortions. They must be stopped.It is sad that you do not value the life in the womb.I'll tell you what is sadder. It is sad that you do not wanna see the other side of the possibilities. Why abortions are sometimes important. You might believe just right out that I have no value for life in the womb. I don't think you can just say that cuz you call yourself pro-life. Value must exist. For life inside the womb and outside. I've been telling you constantly that I'm just trying to explain that I do agree with some of your thoughts, just not all. There must be exceptions. Not easy, but essential one's. You cannot tighten the rules so hard that the humanity you are fighting for has no easy solution.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

And how would the fetus be poisoned? You mean the mother did drugs or something?And the pregnancy you said could go wrong? How...as I said, less than 1% of all abortions happen because of danger to mother or baby.You say abortion should be stopped? How? And what reasons is ok to kill?Why are abortions important? To the unborn killed? Or to the woman who is killing for social reasons?The solution for woman today....is abortion which most use as one method of birth control. Most women do not have just one abortion...but two and three. So they are killing multiple times. The humanity I am fighting for are the 99% of unborns killed for social reasons.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

How...as I said, less than 1% of all abortions happen because of danger to mother or baby.That is unavoidably important. And hence, I'm trying to explain that abortions cannot just be tagged a crime. Sometimes they are important to be done.Why are abortions important? For the reasons above..Or to the woman who is killing for social reasons?
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

And is abortion for social reasons ok? I think you ran from answering this one. You said they are wrong....WHEN?
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

And is abortion for social reasons ok?I'll repeat it again. No. They are not okay. You said they are wrong....WHEN?You make out one night and then get pregnant and then you do an abortion. That is wrong.You kill a baby cuz your unhappy with it's sex kind.You kill a baby cuz you are not ready for one.You kill a baby cuz you were raped and that baby is unwanted. I'm sure you don't reckon or enjoy it's birth. But, that gives no one a right to kill a baby.I believe that abortions are a strict no until really required.If the mom is incapable of the birth process or is too weak or may communicate a murderous disease or until your life is at the stake.I'm glad that you are fighting for the right of the 99% of the unborn. I appreciate the fact that there a certain few who are involved. You fight for those who are killed for social reasons. But, I'm trying to explain that there is no need to be so cross about this process. At a level, the strictness must be loosened and all the guilt saved. There must be exceptions. Valid exceptions.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

I see what you are saying. The only exception I see for abortion is if the mothers life is in danger which is less than 1% of all cases... I see that you are really prolife and that is a good thing, I am so glad. Thumbs up to you.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

I am so glad. Thumbs up to you.Did you really just say that? Wow... Thanks! I see that you are really prolife I wish I fully was.Infact I used a lot of your opinions in a class presentation. So thank you!
Debate: Abortion: What About a Man's Choice?
Side: euqal for both sexes

to a certain degree men have a say, becuase the child is just as much the man's as it is the womans. abortion does not just effect women. my friend is a male and his ex girlfriend had an abortion of his child and it absolutely devestated him. so my question to you is, why is it only thought to be the womans loss??
Debate: Abortion: What About a Man's Choice?
Side: Men Have A Say

Because it's "her body" and she can "do whatever she wants with it." Truth is, it may be something within her body, but it is another life- her own child- that is living within her body. And this is also a life that was created because of the father! So I agree that men should have a say.
Debate: Abortion: What About a Man's Choice?
Side: men have no say

"Truth is, it may be something within her body, but it is another life- her own child- that is living within her body."Truth is that it is a mass of differentiated cells that are developing into a potential life. A child is the developmental stage AFTER birth. Calling an embryo or fetus a child is just romanticising the pregnancy, which is a process of development."And this is also a life that was created because of the father! So I agree that men should have a say."It's the potential for life. Biologically, it is not life until it can maintain seven principles that make it a living organism. An embryo/fetus is unable to maintain homeostasis and metabolism while in utero; therefore it is not "life" yet. Secondly, the man (since he's not a father until AFTER birth) deposited sperm into a woman's body, that is all, he had no bearing on whether his sperm fuses with her egg and he definitely has no control over the development of said fertilised egg.
Debate: Abortion: What About a Man's Choice?
Side: Men Have A Say

BIOLOGICALLY, an amoeba or a paramecium is considered alive even though they only consist of one cell each. The one cell carries out the basic functions of life: metabolize, grow, reproduce, excrete waste, and respond to stimuli. Well the "mass of differentiated cells" can do these things. It uses energy from the food that the mother supplies, it grows, it's cells divide through mitosis, it excretes waste into the mother's blood stream, and it even responds to stimuli. So yes, it is alive.And if you say it's not human (which a lot of people tell me), then what is human? I'd consider it to be any organism that consists of cells with human DNA. So now the only thing the fetus is missing is consciousness, which comes in the form of a heartbeat and EKG at 8 weeks anyway!
Debate: Abortion: What About a Man's Choice?
Side: men have no say

Biologically, a foetus is living tissue, but it does not meet the criteria that makes it an organism. As you listed the functions of life, a fetus cannot, while in utero, self-signal and maintain them without it being do so maternally after all, viability is when a fetus is developed to do so and that, I'm afraid, does not begin until it is separated from the uterus. As for consciousness, that doesn't come until after birth and some researchers suggest that it may be until 18 months after birth that these higher brain functions don't begin to make these connections.
Debate: Abortion: What About a Man's Choice?
Side: Men Have No Say

Bullshit. Women have the right to fucking choose. Deal with it.
Debate: Abortion: What About a Man's Choice?
Side: men have no say

"to a certain degree men have a say, becuase the child is just as much the man's as it is the womans."No. The man does not have the rights to a woman's uterus just because his sperm fused with her egg. "Child" is the developmental stage AFTER birth."my friend is a male and his ex girlfriend had an abortion of his child and it absolutely devestated him. so my question to you is, why is it only thought to be the womans loss??"He should have discussed his desire that he was having sex to procreate BEFORE he copulated with a woman. Women who abort their pregnancy do not think of it as loss. To some it may be with regret, but it is not a loss - if your friend was devastated, he should seek councelling, since he is grieving the loss of a potential life, he should be devastated each time he ejaculates and it doesn't result in pregnancy since that is the potential of a life as well.
Debate: Abortion: What About a Man's Choice?
Side: Men Have A Say

wow you are one ignorant SOB. Last time I checked ejaculating into a washcloth vs. having sex/making love were two different things (maybe not to you because you have no heart or soul) but my ex girlfriend talked me into intentionally having a child with her and aborted it every time she got morning sickness. How messed up is that? Telling a person that a family is about to begin and once she is lucky enough to get pregnant run along to have an abortion just because on that particular day it made her feel bad.I am in the process of suing the shit out of her because phone calls and text messages were saved and this has cause irrefutable psychological damage. I know its a womans body blah blah blah....but when the woman convinces a man its the right time then lets him fall in love with that child, it then becomes a couple's choice...not just her selfish needs or wants.