azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

Not really. You are ascribing incredibly human emotions onto god, and declaring them justified, despite the fact that, as the Alpha and Omega, he created everything knowing who would and would not go to Heaven long before they were born. That is unbelievably cruel to then punish said individuals for a system he created.................................................................................................................................................. You want to believe that God is not good. It is not cruel for Him to leave you in the fire of Hell where there will be no sign of His goodness, nothing good to enjoy, nothing good to see, nothing good to feel, hear, smell, touch, or taste.....You want to believe God is not good, you have broken His law, and it is justice for Him to leave you in Hell where you can have what you want, eternity void of evidence of God's goodness. He does not want you to go to Hell, and it makes Him angry that you are demanding He give you proof that He is not good. In Hell you will forever prove to yourself that God is not good TO YOU....but He will remain good forever. It is good to know God will separate evil and remove it from the presence of the living, and Hell will confine all sin, and the corruption of sinners will never again interfere with the harmony of God's intention for Creation, and the smoke of the torments of those in the Lake of Fire will rise forever as a testimony to God's goodness for the Living and the Redeemed to witness and testify to.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

Only if you disregard god's omniscience and omnipotence, starting with "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end" in Genesis.You are rejecting Him as your God. It's JUSTICE for Him, your Creator, to reject you and not allow you in His Kingdom. You are choosing your own eternity denying God's goodness, and your doing it to yourself when God has made the way for you to be delivered from death into eternal life. You are bringing your own condemnation on yourself, and blaming God for creating you won't get you out of it.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

Going by what you have posted I appreciate that you may be a Christian, but the abrasive manner in which you are airing your beliefs does not translate at all well. There is nothing wrong with sharing your beliefs on this site, but it should be in the context of an actual debate (the site’s purpose), not as a platform for proselytism. Just try to be a little more respectful of others in that way.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

I'm sorry you feel abrased. I'm only trying to dispute people who do not believe that God loves them, and you seem to be one of those people. You don't have to feel that way, you can believe God loves you and you can believe that I am only concerned about your well being and care enough to tell you the truth that you can be saved from Hell.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

Well…as a Christian myself I am fully aware that God loves me so you needn’t extend your concern in that sense. I confess I am rather bemused as to how you came to that conclusion considering my post was solely directed toward your approach to the subject, not a declaration or even an implication of disbelief in God. Please read comments thoroughly before responding to them.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

I saw that you feel the love of God is abrasive. You are misguided. Thank you for understanding.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

The debate is valid, I have offered validations of the fact that God loves you and I invite you to explain why you believe God does not love you. If this is too much of a challenge to be considered acceptable for this site, I would have to say it's a small-minded site, with all due respect.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: I don't believe it.

You have so thoroughly proved his point. Foxglove is a Christian, but unlike you, he isn't an ass about it.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

I would very much like to win this debate with you so that you believe God loves you and know Him personally as your Savior. This is indeed a debate, you are arguing against God and I am arguing for Him trying to win you for Him so you can have eternal life in Heaven rather than eternal death in Hell.The debate is God loves you VS I don't believe it, you can rephrase the opposing position as "God does not love me", or something like that. Please debate on topic.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: I don't believe it.

Unfortunately your opening (and erroneous) supposition of my beliefs does not exactly generate much of a discussion. In light of my correction then, you ought to know that I am content to share my beliefs with anyone but do so in the appropriate context. This is a debate forum for ALL perspectives. You should be considerate of that rather than being here on a mission to try to ‘win anyone’. Why not try fair engagement with contrary views as opposed to outright dismissal of them?
Debate: God loves you.
Side: I don't believe it.

So your life is all about you, that's wonderful. I'm all about Jesus, my life is lost for His name's sake and His gospel. I take up my cross daily, denying myself of ungodliness and worldly lusts, that I may know Him and the power of His resurrection. I don't think you are a Christian at all. Just a worldly woman who thinks she is good so she can lecture people on how they should act.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

You are not going by what I posted, you are going by your own hysterical wishy washy feelings and I really don't believe you are saved.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

I respect your feelings, and understand that you are antagonistic against the Word of God and don't want the gospel to be published. That's why I banned you and probably always will ban you, because you are stubborn and don't seem to care what God says.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

Also hell is not temporary, in the bible it clearly states FOR ETERNITY because that's what satan wants. To have those who didn't accept God's rescue burn for eternity because it hurts god's heart.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

Thank you for pointing that out. I hope you read the post you are replying to and noticed that I stated clearly that ISLAM teaches that Hell is temporary, a place of correction where infidels become Muslims so they can go to paradise. The reason God died for us as the Son of God, Jesus, was to pay for our sins so we would not have to pay forever in Hell. What He did for us proves His love in that while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. I'm not sure why you seem to be taking issue with me...which side of this debate are you on?
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

No, idiot, you do not understand the Word of God or the teachings of Islam. Your sin takes you to Hell. There is no place for sin in Heaven, sinners have no place to be but in the fire of Hell. Only God's mercy allows you time in the world outside of Hell as a sinner.Islam teaches that after correction by the fire of Hell, you will learn to always say God's name is Allah and Muhammed is his profit, and then you will be released from Hell and allowed to live in paradise. That is why they teach it is good to kill those who are infidel against Islam....they are doing the Islamaphobes a favor by sending them to Hell where they can be corrected so they can live in paradise.The torments of Hell are brought on sinners by themselves. God died for you, He made the way for you to be saved from Hell, if you reject Him as your Savior, then He will be your judge and you will keep your own death in Hell by your own choice, God unwillingly but lovingly giving you want you wanted in the world, proof of the absence of His tender loving care for you.You're an idiot if you won't stop arguing against God.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

Most are wrong here... The creator of this debate did a terrible job wording it out. God tells us to choose him so he can save you from hell, because if you don't choose him satan has your soul and satan will take you to hell.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

A person's sin takes them to Hell which was created for the devil and his angels. I'm not sure I can be in agreement with you when you are misplacing blame. It seems like maybe you need to create your own debate and try to say whatever it is you are trying to say.Try to focus on God's love please, either you believe He loves you or you believe He does not love you and please explain why you are on whatever side you are on, thank you.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

I really do not know how you are missing the point. I am saying that he does not love the individual because of the things I have pointed out. You have also repeatedly claimed I have misplaced the blame, but you have not explained why you think that. Please address what I am saying, instead of simply repeating yourself.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

I really don't know how you think you have the right to exist outside of Hell as a sinner.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: I don't believe it.

Why do you feel God does not love you? This is about you, not about your opinion of everybody else. You're trying to dodge the issue by making it about "the individual" in general rather than about you. This is about you. God loves you. You are the only individual you answer for......though you try to avoid it.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: I don't believe it.

You can't make a point that will keep you out of Hell, so why should I pretend like it's worth my time to read your never ending attempts?
Debate: God loves you.
Side: I don't believe it.

That choice is irrelevant, though. The Bible says that god is the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. God created existence, knowing everything that would happen ahead of time. He created everything, essentially preordained, and therefore the choice is no real choice at all.Regardless, outside of that theological idea, many do not "choose" to believe or not. I spent much of my youth wishing I was a Christian, and actively trying to believe in Christianity, for a variety of reasons. I was, of course, unsuccessful. So I am to be punished for eternity because of that?
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

Irrelevant? Is math irrelevant? Is some of the wheel irrelevant? Yes God knew what would happen but we still choose our path. He knew what we would choose but he wouldn't do anything to take away ouR freedom of choosing. Being that you don't believe Jesus died for you, sadly yes. Satan has the ability to take you to hell when you die.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: I don't believe it.

If god knew what would happen, and created everything accordingly, then there is no actual choice that was made. There is no freedom to choose, if he created everything in such a way that we would choose that.And your second part is the proof that God does not love the individual. He loves to be worshiped.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

you are punished in death for your sin. You have eternal life or you have eternal death. Death and sin will be forever separated from life in Hell. Life will be eternal in Heaven. God has the right to leave you in Hell if you will not believe He loves you because He took your place in death to save you from paying for your own sin. Jesus will be your Judge if you insist He is not you Savior. You can't become a Christian by wishing or trying, you have to be born of the Spirit of God by believing on Jesus in His resurrection and calling on God in Jesus' name to save you from Hell. If you will repent of your sin and believe on Him and receive Him as your Savior, He will come in to you and live in you by His Holy Spirit, making you His child as a new creation in Christ. You are being punished already for your sin, you are being executed now, you are on death row and the clock is counting down to finality of execution. God Himself took your execution and in His resurrection offers you pardon based on the fact that He paid your price and is satisfied with that payment on your behalf. If you are punished in Hell, it is only because you refused His payment on your behalf, it is only because you rejected Him as your Savior hoping you would not have to face Him as your Judge, but that is a false hope worthy of Hell.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: I don't believe it.

This is what I am talking about. You addressed nothing of what I said, and chose to repeat previous proselytizing. Why are you here if you aren't going to actively debate?
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

You are choosing to not believe on Jesus who is your Creator who died for you to be your Savior, and by your own choice He is going to be your Judge and you will get the world without God's love that you believe is good for you. Hell is what you are asking for, it's what you will get as God's gift...not the one He wants you to have, but you wont' receive the gift of eternal life through the death, burial, and resurrection of Jesus Christ, you wont' receive Him as your Savior, you don't want Him to rule over you so you will be ruled against by your own choice in Hell. You need to quit thinking that you are better than God. You are ruining yourself.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: I don't believe it.

For the sake of argument I'll assume that god exists. If god loves us so much why did he create us with horrible genetic defects such as harlequin ichthyosis, fibrodysplasia ossificans progressiva, treacher-collins syndrome, crouzon syndrome and progeria. If you want to see just how horrible those things are, take a look, just be warned they are pretty gruesome. There are over 14,000 diseases and mental disorders just in humans and countless more in animals and insects. Are all of those things part of your loving gods design? How about all the following things? WARNING: The links take you to some graphic content.· Mosquitos that have infected 700 million people with disease in Africa alone, killing millions of them.· Kissing bugs which have infected 16 to 18 million people with Chaga’s disease, killing 20,000 of them each year.· Bot Flies and Mangoworms that embed their larvae into you.· Smallpox which was responsible for an estimated 300–500 million deaths during the 20th century.· Porphyria (AKA Vampires Disease)· Mucocutaneous Leishmaniasis· Necrotizing Fasciitis· Kidney Worms· Blood Sucking Ticks· Leprosy· Rabies· Naegleria Fowleria (AKA The Brain-Eating Amoeba) which gets inside your brain and causes headache, fever, nausea, vomiting, confusion, hallucinations, loss of muscle control, seizures, and eventually death.Either god did a terrible job designing life and his designs have gone horribly wrong, or he intentionally designed it in a way that results in an incredible amount of suffering and violence.http://i.imgur.com/R6fkHit.jpg
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

God didn't create those diseases, they occurred when man sinned.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: I don't believe it.

God created man knowing he would sin. He created existence in such a way that man would sin.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

Ok your theory makes no sense, just because God knew it would happen doesn't mean that we don't have a free will.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: I don't believe it.

Yes, that would follow depending on how you interpret his omniscience. Also, yes, he created the a world where man could sin if he wishes to do so.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

Not only if he wished to, but he created a world knowing that man would sin. I see no other possible way to interpret "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end". If God was indeed the beginning and the end, and was indeed omniscient, then he knowingly made everything exactly how it is. He could have changed it, and prevented man from sinning, but didn't. Is there really a choice involved, then, if God created everything knowing how everything would be? How is that not predestination?
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

Not only if he wished to, but he created a world knowing that man would sin.Yes, he did. It's quite natural that the sin option would be chosen. I see no other possible way to interpret "I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end".I sort of hinted at this in my other response to you, but yes this means he is everlasting. If God was indeed the beginning and the end, and was indeed omniscient, then he knowingly made everything exactly how it is. He could have changed it, and prevented man from sinning, but didn't. Why would he stop them from sinning? By doing that he is restricting them of the freedom of choice. Is there really a choice involved, then, if God created everything knowing how everything would be? How is that not predestination?Good question. If you play the Sims there are so many actions a sim can make, however you know how the end result will be by choosing their life time goals. In this situation are the sims no longer capable of making their decisions on the way to their goal? Let's say you don't choose a life time goal for the sims, but you will delete the game and only recreate sims who have done good deeds. You know the ending outcome. Do the sims still have no capability to control themselves? This example may not be perfect, but hopefully you see where I'm getting at.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: I don't believe it.

Yes, he did. It's quite natural that the sin option would be chosen.}The point is that it isn't really a choice if he created it in a way where it was predestined.Why would he stop them from sinning? By doing that he is restricting them of the freedom of choice.See the previous repose regarding the nature of said choice.Good question. If you play the Sims there are so many actions a sim can make, however you know how the end result will be by choosing their life time goals. In this situation are the sims no longer capable of making their decisions on the way to their goal? Let's say you don't choose a life time goal for the sims, but you will delete the game and only recreate sims who have done good deeds. You know the ending outcome. Do the sims still have no capability to control themselves? This example may not be perfect, but hopefully you see where I'm getting at.I would say no, they do not.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: I don't believe it.

The point is that it isn't really a choice if he created it in a way where it was predestined.They still choose. Do they not?I would say no, they do not.Well, guess we can't agree.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

They still choose. Do they not?But again, how is it a choice if all the factors that go into making said choice were set up by God, and God knew what impact said factors would have when creating them? He could have changed any number of factors so that humanity would make different choices, but he didn't. He set things up knowing what Adam and Eve would do, knowing what Satan would do, knowing that sin would come into existence, etc etc. He made the Garden of Eden exactly as it was knowing what would happen with the apple. How is it then a choice if it was predestined?
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

But again, how is it a choice if all the factors that go into making said choice were set up by God, and God knew what impact said factors would have when creating them?I'm not seeing how this question even prompts the notion of non-choice. Factors set up by God. God knows what impacts certain factors will have. I don't see where this invalidates choice.He could have changed any number of factors so that humanity would make different choices, but he didn't.So, you just said "so humanity would make different choices", but aren't you arguing against choice? This statement seems to tell me that humanity is capable of making choices.He set things up knowing what Adam and Eve would do, knowing what Satan would do, knowing that sin would come into existence, etc etc.Knowing what people will do doesn't mean those people don't have the power of choice. How is it then a choice if it was predestined?Is it predestined? Again, he is the beginning and end of all things. The knowledge of people decisions doesn't mean people cannot choose. For example, if you put a mouse in a maze he will wander. Now if you put cheese in some random place in the maze the mouse will choose to go for the cheese. You already know the mouse will go for the cheese. You set it up so that the mouse will go for the cheese. However, there could be a chance where the mouse decides not to go for the cheese. However unlikely the chance still exists. Regardless of how you set this up the mouse will make a decision. It will choose and most likely choose the cheese. Along with that the mouse will decide which paths it will go on. Even if you know what path the mouse will travel on. You know what the mouse will always choose, but to the mouse, he is making his own decisions. His own route.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

this has merited banning due to too much ambiguity....the argument seems to be supporting the fact that God loves you but it is given under the heading of "I don't believe it" This is not the first ambiguous answer from this person. I won't allow the debate to be dominated by people trying to play both sides against the middle.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: I don't believe it.

Do you think every time someone commits a sin a new disease just magically springs to life out of nowhere? Sinning doesn't magically create things. You're sin argument also doesn't account for all the diseases in animals. Did they sin too? Plus I mentioned many things that aren't diseases, like the bot flies and mango worms. Where did those come from?