azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: yes

So, you're saying the deaf and handicapped are such burdens that we don't deserve to be treated like others? How kind of you. And all this time the norm are also bitching about the handicapped taking their taxes. I suppose if everyone thinks like you do, they deserve your taxes. I've come to this point over and over again, and it's that the norm just absolutely doesn't understand what the disabled go through.
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: No

I don't understand what your problem is, I said equity, not equality. A deaf person, most likely can't work for a call center taking, but they can do paperwork. As long as they are working, or putting something back into the community I see them far from being a burden. Maybe you should read what I was saying before coming to such ludicrous conclusions
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: yes

I did read it. And I can also read between the lines. Deaf people have a lot of trouble finding a job because hearing people get the jobs we're best suited for (desk jobs, how fun). Almost every job requires a decent amount of communication, and most require constant phone exposure, which deaf people obviously can't handle too well. So, I get it. But that lowers me down to like 10% of job choices. It blows ass. My dream job is to be an FBI agent and I'm well aware I could get a lot of people killed if I was one in today's world. At least until this text messaging stuff gets way more advanced, then I'll dominate.
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: No

I understand it's unfair, but that's the way that life is. I'm in no way the perfect person, and I'm guessing you aren't either. These flaws make us human, and in your case I feel has given you a opinionated/defensive nature. Maybe you could use the position you are in, to create deaf people new roles in which they work effectively and express themselves, or to universally change working conditions in all employment facilities.
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: yes

I don't understand what your problem is! You're plain ignorant! A Deaf person CAN work for a call center, utilizing a telephone system called Captel. Have you heard of it? Why don't you do some research about what Deaf people can do while working, instead assuming they can't. We're not making ludicrous conclusions, we've read your previous arguments word for word, and it's condenscending to the Deaf community!
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: Yes

Tredenham1, I agree with you. Nichole (679)'s comments were condescending to the Deaf people and also to the Hearing people. She probably spoke for herself and her bigotry.
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: Yes

You're talking to someone who hasn't been around in over 600 days... Just thought you should know. ;)
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: No

You did not say anything wrong, Jesus(208). You had good a good point of view about equity. You also had compassion in your tone. The other person definitely misunderstood you. You clearly did not put down the people with disabilities. You only suggested ways for mainstream society to accommodate the people with different physical abilities. True, people in wheelchair need ramp or lift, deaf people need interpreters and closed captioning to hear spoken conversations, blind people need readers, etc.
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: No

I think some people may be confusing this as "should we be prejudiced against deaf people?" This is wrong in so many ways (especially since that deaf person could be you in 50 years!) But I don't think we should be treated equally. I think people should go out of their way to accommodate to the needs of these people and make sure they understand the things we say. Treat them better than people who can hear, unless they turn out to be a$$holes. ;)
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: yes

I disagree, Deaf people deserve equal treatment. They don't want better treatment because of their deafness, they don't want to be enabled or "babied". Would you like to be treated like a child?
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: No

This is a very difficult debate question to answer. (Good job!) Normally I would say everybody should be treated equally, but the hard thing about being deaf and being treated equally is you really can't be treated equally. Because people who are not deaf rely so much on sound in their everyday lives that if deaf people were to incorporate themselves and insist upon being treated equally, communication would go to hell in a hand basket. It would be a Communication Breakdown!! Hahaha get it?? I crack myself up..
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: yes

Ha ha ha ha ha, that's so funny, NOT!!!!!!! Grow up! You have no clue about Deaf people! Deaf people do read lips, you'd be surprised how far in distance they can read lips. Not only they read lips, they read facial expressions, body language and gestures. They don't need to rely solely on sound, they rely on perception which is very important in this world. What about hearing people listening to iphones, music, and other loud noises when they can't hear people trying to get their attention? This world does NOT belong to only hearing people!
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: No

Deaf people are categorically unequal. When you have a population with an ability that is lacking in another population, there is no equality.Should we treat them as equals? In terms of respect, compassion, and your basic rights, certainly. However their disability means that they can't function equally under all circumstances. This needs to be accounted for.Fortunately we have cochlear implants, which assist in this issue.
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: yes

The only thing Deaf people can't do is hear, they CAN function equally under 99% circumstances. You have no clue. Seeing is way more important than hearing in this world. Hearing aids and Cochlear Implants are helpful to SOME, not all Deaf people. Do some research to get the right facts.
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: No

The only thing Deaf people can't do is hear,Correct. Which means that they are disabled, especially since sound is a very important human sense.they CAN function equally under 99% circumstances.Can a deaf person watch television without subtitles? Can a deaf person listen to radio? Music? Speech without reading lips or sign language? Can a deaf person hear automobiles on highways and use that to avoid being run over when crossing? Can a deaf person sense any incoming danger which is audible?It is a handicap. A severe one. Pretending that deaf people are equally capable is to give them confidence about their condition which has no basis in reality.You have no clue. Seeing is way more important than hearing in this world.Sight is another one of the important senses, along with smell, taste, and touch. Being able to hear is something that we take for granted and it is critical in a fast-paced society full of danger and information.Hearing aids and Cochlear Implants are helpful to SOME, not all Deaf people. Do some research to get the right facts.I never said that Cochlear Implants are a perfect solution. I said that they assist and reduce the problem of deafness.Cochlear Implants are most important for children and young adolescents, who can still learn how to process speech. However the deaf community has worked against them because of their belief in their "culture." I can understand that for a minority of people who have had to live with a serious impediment for centuries, forming a culture of support is crucial to emotional well-being. However, now that deafness is no longer a permanent condition, the "culture" is working against medical progress.It also doesn't change the fact that these people are disabled. Even if they can cope in a special community and with subtitles and sign language, it is still an inability to perceive something critical in life.
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: yes

You are extremely ignorant!!!!!! Have you been around a Deaf/Hard of Hearing person? What do you know about the Deaf community? That is old news about the discouragement of Cochlear Implants, some of the individuals are open-minded to the concept. You're a blithering idiot!!!! How dare you argue with me when you don't have the facts?????? FYI, I myself was hard of hearing until I had bilateral Cochelar Implants. I now have 97% hearing, and communicate perfectly well with hearing people on the phones. So, don't tell me you know so much, when really, you don't!!!!!!
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: No

You are extremely ignorant!!!!!!As a general rule I am cold during debates, therefore using insults and hot-blooded expletives has no effect upon me and is a waste of words.Have you been around a Deaf/Hard of Hearing person?Yes.What do you know about the Deaf community?The deaf community formed a culture, that was heavily influenced decades ago by a philosophical work which criticised the idea of it being a handicap, instead supporting the idea that it is a different way to live and experience reality. This was fine back then, when deafness was incurable. Now it can be cured and the medical technology is only getting better with each decade.That is old news about the discouragement of Cochlear Implants, some of the individuals are open-minded to the concept.I realise that it is years-old, but there are still people who retain those attitudes and only some people are open-minded when it should be everyone.You're a blithering idiot!!!! Again, you're wasting words.How dare you argue with me when you don't have the facts??????I do have facts. There is a difference between disagreement and ignorance.FYI, I myself was hard of hearing until I had bilateral Cochelar Implants. I now have 97% hearing, and communicate perfectly well with hearing people on the phones.Thanks to medical technology, correct. Now you are not deaf.So, don't tell me you know so much, when really, you don't!!!!!!Please avoid wasting words in the future. Unless this is how you vent frustration, it really serves no purpose.
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: yes

You know what? As a general rule, you're wasting your words!!!!!! I'm right , you're wrong! Face it dude!!! You have no idea!!!! This serves as a purpose, because again, you're not in tune with reality! You don't know anything about the Deaf world, so get over it! You're a waste of oxygen!!! FYI, I am Deaf, what makes you think I'm not? You just said in your previous argument that Cochlear Implants are not the only solution, now you're saying it is? You don't have any facts, so this is not only a disagreement. Deafness has never been curable, and never will be. You really are ignorant and have no clue!!! I'm living my life to the fullest, I'm sorry you're such a loser!!!
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: yes

Also, FYI, I have a Masters Degree from Portland State University in Business and surviving quite well! :)
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: No

Also, FYI, I have a Masters Degree from Portland State University in Business and surviving quite well! :)Oh, you live nearby?I did not say that deaf people cannot survive, just that they are severely compromised. You're not deaf however.
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: yes

Yes, I am Deaf! When I take off my CI processors at night, I am 100% deaf! You love to argue for the sake of arguing......Are you a Deaf Studies professor? An Audiologist? An ASL interpreter? Or you just know one deaf person and gather all your information based on that? In other words, you only know one deaf person and assume all deaf people are the same. I suggest you take a Deaf Studies class at a local University or an ASL class. You'd be surprised.......
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: No

Yes, I am Deaf! When I take off my CI processors at night, I am 100% deaf!When you are not wearing your speech processors you are deaf. When you wear them you are not. Just as in wearing glasses or not. You cannot call yourself presently deaf when you equip your speech processors, you can only use it to describe a pathology. In the context of our discussion it is acknowledged that you can hear with your implants and are thus not restricted from the perception of sound.Are you a Deaf Studies professor? An Audiologist? An ASL interpreter?I read, and experience life. I am studied.Or you just know one deaf person and gather all your information based on that? In other words, you only know one deaf person and assume all deaf people are the same. I suggest you take a Deaf Studies class at a local University or an ASL class.It is not an issue of this. It is a matter of basic sensory concepts, framed against our world. Treating each deaf person as a snowflake does not ameliorate the disability which is deafness.Your argument would work if the debate was about treating deaf people as subordinates. Deaf people are not individually subordinate, but neither are they equally capable (by definition) as a hearing individual.
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: No

You know what? As a general rule, you're wasting your words!!!!!! I'm right , you're wrong! Face it dude!!! You have no idea!!!!Well that settles it.This serves as a purpose, because again, you're not in tune with reality! You don't know anything about the Deaf world, so get over it! You're a waste of oxygen!!!Obviously not a member in the debate club.FYI, I am Deaf, what makes you think I'm not?If you have Cochlear Implants, then you are not deaf.You just said in your previous argument that Cochlear Implants are not the only solution, now you're saying it is?They are presently not the only solution due to cost, it being relatively new technology, and it being imperfect surgically. They will be a perfect solution in the coming decades.You don't have any facts, so this is not only a disagreement.Assertions.Deafness has never been curable, and never will be.A strange comment coming from someone who has Cochlear Implants and claimed to have 97% of his hearing back. In other words you're not deaf. Of course, if you got them as an adult, I can only offer my condolences that your brain cannot map out speech very well due to the lack of adult brain plasticity.I'm living my life to the fullest, I'm sorry you're such a loser!!!One can only ever try to.
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: yes

You don't understand, just because I have a cochlear implant doesn't mean my deafness is "cured". The surgery itself, removes all the residual hearing I've had prior to the implants. That makes me deaf. With the implants and peripherals, I have 97% hearing. I can hear just as well as everyone else, maybe more. Your comment is really uncalled for when you said "I can only offer you condolences that your brain cannot map out speech very well due to the lack of adult brain plasticity." That's harsh.
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: No

You don't understand, just because I have a cochlear implant doesn't mean my deafness is "cured".If you can hear all sounds within the human auditory range and typical intensity then you are not deaf. If you are limited in your range and require greater sound intensity then you are partially deaf (with quantifiers ranging from mild to severe). If you cannot hear any range or intensity, you are profoundly deaf.You claim to have 97% of your hearing. You can hear sounds. Therefore you are not deaf.The surgery itself, removes all the residual hearing I've had prior to the implants. That makes me deaf.Yes, this is a side-effect of the procedure, but because you can hear sound you cannot be called deaf.With the implants and peripherals, I have 97% hearing. I can hear just as well as everyone else, maybe more. This is correct.Your comment is really uncalled for when you said "I can only offer you condolences that your brain cannot map out speech very well due to the lack of adult brain plasticity." That's harsh.I made a conditional apology for technology's inability to repair lack of developed neural pathways. It was sincere because I find it regrettable that there are people who are for all intents and purposes permanently disabled, with any solution being extremely complicated and well beyond our medical technology.
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: No

You seem to be taking this debate as a personal attack against deaf people. That is unnecessary. I have a deaf relative who does not use ASL, and I when I want to speak to him, I have to remember to look right at him and enunciate so that he can read my lips. I am not treating him as an inferior, but nor am I treating him identically to everyone else; I am making adjustments to my behavior to allow for his disability. Most people who cannot hear will require some sort of adjustments in the behavior of their peers in order to get by. There is nothing wrong with this, but they are not being treated exactly the same as their peers. If they were, they would actually be at a disadvantage. To make reasonable adjustments for the abilities of someone else is not treating them equally, but it is no insult to them either.
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: yes

I really don't mean to sound like I'm taking this debate as a personal attack against deaf people. It's just frustrating when hearing people, think that deaf people are a burden to our society. That is unnecessary. How would you feel if you're deaf and you need some assistance, when people shun you? My other question is why do you have adjust your behavior when trying to talk to your deaf relative? Is it because it's harder to slow down and repeat words clearly, so the deaf person can understand you? It's lack of patience. We need to be patient with people who have needs.
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: No

It's just frustrating when hearing people, think that deaf people are a burden to our society.No one here called deaf people a burden. The detractors almost unanimously agreed that deaf people are inherently disabled.How would you feel if you're deaf and you need some assistance, when people shun you?No one here suggested that you be shunned.My other question is why do you have adjust your behavior when trying to talk to your deaf relative?Because lips when moving have a degree of ambiguity which sound quickly removes. If you only have visual information to work with, it is necessary to speak slowly and clearly so that the ambiguity is lessened.Is it because it's harder to slow down and repeat words clearly, so the deaf person can understand you? It's lack of patience. We need to be patient with people who have needs.It is not lack of patience, it is an understanding of the disability, and consequently making adjustments conducive towards it.
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: yes

Deaf people are NOT disabled! When lip-reading, deaf people can read lips. Sound is not important to them, and it doesn't cause ambiguity. It can be confusing for people who've lost their hearing later in life. Maybe that's what you're referring to. Deaf people who have never heard of sound are different than people who are later-deafened. Hope this makes sense.
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: No

Deaf people are NOT disabled!Deaf people are by definition less capable than their hearing-capable peers. Having a lack of ability qualifies as disability when that ability is typical in the population.When lip-reading, deaf people can read lips. Sound is not important to them, and it doesn't cause ambiguity.There are certain sounds which when spoken appear the same on the lips. This is why dubbing can work, for example. Lip-reading is a useful skill which works around the inability to hear the voice.It can be confusing for people who've lost their hearing later in life. Maybe that's what you're referring to. Deaf people who have never heard of sound are different than people who are later-deafened. Hope this makes sense.It does. However I was also speaking with the context of the above.
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: No

I really don't mean to sound like I'm taking this debate as a personal attack against deaf people. It's just frustrating when hearing people, think that deaf people are a burden to our society. That is unnecessary.Who is claiming this, exactly? How does the recognition of the differing needs of deaf people mean that one must consider them a burden?How would you feel if you're deaf and you need some assistance, when people shun you?This is what many of your opponents are advocating; that deaf people should receive the assistance they need to function in society on a level similar to their hearing peers. You are misunderstanding this and taking it as an insult.My other question is why do you have adjust your behavior when trying to talk to your deaf relative?Because if I did not, he would not be able to understand me and we would not be able to communicate.Is it because it's harder to slow down and repeat words clearly, so the deaf person can understand you? It's lack of patience. We need to be patient with people who have needs.I am not sure how you deduced from this that I am impatient with him. In fact, you basically repeated everything I just said, only you appear to think that it constitutes thinking deaf people a burden unless you say it.
Debate: Do You Think Deaf People Should Be Treated Equally As Hearing People
Side: Yes

Aveskde(1878), I think you made some good points regarding the physical abilities of deaf people. You also spoke up some plain simple facts about medical conditions and about deaf people forming a culture to support themselves emotionally. I believe most deaf / Deaf people who are well-educated and logical in their thinking would agree with you. I do hope advanced medical solutions will improve the functioning for a lot of deaf people (or anyone else with other kinds of disabilities).However, may I suggest you to soften your words a bit? It may hurt some deaf / Deaf people's feelings when you always remind them about their disability. How about society providing accommodation without reminding disabled people that they are disabled. Better yet, how about we simply forget about all the disabilities in this world, and just view everyone as a human being that has feelings, desires, and own ways of living life. If we can help, we will help one another. If people want to use the help / accommodation, they do at their own will or choice. Life would be more enjoyable for EVERYONE, if we all can look past the physical, mental, or spiritual conditions, and simply treat everyone around us as human beings. Let us all be understanding toward others.