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Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: False

In reality, if just a few more of these people moved to pro choice, abortion would be illegal.If more people became pro choice, abortion would be illegal? I assume you mean pro life. There are reasons why sex is for married couples and clearly you people are too dumb to figure out why. Since when has sex only been for married couples?
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: True

Abortion is selfish, you were thinking of yourself when you did it yes? Not of the baby. And people try to make themselves feel better by saying "Oh thats not a child that just a clump of Cells." Who says so?
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: True

Having sex with someone your about to marry is one thing, but multiple people? Lots of people? Thats just discusting. I don't want to marry someone who has been everwhere and seen everything. I want to know what diseases your carrying and what your gonna pass on to me and my children. Plus, people like that? They never really love you, they just say they do so they can get in your pants and give you a baby you can't take care of. That poor child is most likely going to end up aborted, orphand, or abused. Yeah, he really loves you.....
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: True

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_popout&v=fKyljukBE70#!A
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: False

Didn't take you as a point whore.
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: True

That's a good way of describing the condition. Yes, it is a selfish decision.
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: True

sometimes it is.. what is ALSO true, is that is it FAR MORE selfish for someone else to impose their choices onto another..specifically old white MEN telling women what they can and cannot do with their own bodies..GET OFF!
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: False

That is true for some situation. It is FAR from true in all situations.A woman who has been raped for example, is NOT removing a consequence of selfish actions. First of all, the baby isn't a consequence in that situation. It is a result of a crime.It can also be done because of financial causes.Also you need to know, that an abortion is not something you just .. do.An abortion is not good for yourself either. There is a chance you're gonna be sterilized for life.Some women HAVE to do it, not because they want to, and trust me when I say, that VERY VERY few women WANT to take abortions.
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: True

Some women HAVE to do it, not because they want to, and trust me when I say, that VERY VERY few women WANT to take abortions.Then why not take measures to prevent them from having to make an undesirable decision?
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: True

So if a woman who had been raped and had given birth wanted to kill her child because it was a reminder of the crime, should she be allowed? Thats like the father killing someone and the child getting the death penalty. Don't punish the child for the crimes of the father.Should a woman and a man be having sex in the first place if they are not financially secure? If someone gets drunk and kills someone while driving does that automatically mean he/she is free of charges because he/she was not all there mentally?People need to learn to be responsible. People are being less and less responsible and other people are having to take care of them and other people are having to pay the price. This is what America has come down to.
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: False

Don't punish the child for the crimes of the father.In a case like that, you're putting an innocent person, to be punished for 18 years for some crime the person was a victim to.If you think that is fair.. you're a sick person.So if a woman who had been raped and had given birth wanted to kill her child because it was a reminder of the crime, should she be allowed? No, I don't think that should be allowed. That is called murder, not abortion.Should a woman and a man be having sex in the first place if they are not financially secure?Yes they should. Sex isn't just reproduction.If someone gets drunk and kills someone while driving does that automatically mean he/she is free of charges because he/she was not all there mentally?When did I ever say that? No, a person who kills someone while being drunk, should get the same punishment as a sober person.People need to learn to be responsible. People are being less and less responsible and other people are having to take care of them and other people are having to pay the price.This is what America has come down to.Well.. I live in a country where abortion is illegal. I think it is stupid to force a woman to have a baby she doesn't want. I think it is stupid, that the government is forcing people to do things they don't want to do.
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: True

In a case like that, you're putting an innocent person, to be punished for 18 years for some crime the person was a victim to.If you think that is fair.. you're a sick person.If you think that because the Father did something bad and the Mother doesn't want a child that she has the right to kill the child and that anyone who opposes it is "punishing" them than you are a sick person.No, I don't think that should be allowed. That is called murder, not abortion.So if she killed it while it was out of the womb its murder but if you kill it while its in the womb its not? Explain that to me, it doesn't matter if its a rape, you punish the rapist no the child who didn't do anything.Yes they should. Sex isn't just reproduction.Indisputably sex's main goal is re-production, obviously it has other uses, but whenever you have sex you take the risk of having a kid, if you dont want to take that risk than dont have sex. If you are going to take that risk than take some birth control, makes sure the guy has condoms and keep someday after pills on hand just incase.When did I ever say that? No, a person who kills someone while being drunk, should get the same punishment as a sober person.So a mother killing her child under the stress of having a child she shouldn't be punished as a a normal women? You don't seem to think so.Well.. I live in a country where abortion is illegal. I think it is stupid to force a woman to have a baby she doesn't want. I think it is stupid, that the government is forcing people to do things they don't want to do. Babies aren't some objects that women own, the child may be inside of them but that's the child's body, not hers, she has no right to kill her child because she "doesn't want it." The government is supposed to protect human life and stop murder, and considering abortion is the killing life, the government should force them to stop.
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: False

If you think that because the Father did something bad and the Mother doesn't want a child that she has the right to kill the child and that anyone who opposes it is "punishing" them than you are a sick person.Imagine if you got raped. Imagine your father raped you, and you found out you were pregnant with your father's child.I don't know if you would go through with it, but I gotta tell you I would NEVER ever do that. And forcing anybody to do such a sick thing is just SICK!!!Explain that to me, it doesn't matter if its a rape, you punish the rapist no the child who didn't do anything.It has been .. scientifically proved that a 12 weeks old fetus doesn't have any consciousness. A born baby does. So that's the difference between killing a fetus and killing a human being.And your punishing the mother of the child. Your MAKING her have the baby of a man, who ruined her life. Imagine if you were forced to have the child of the man who .. seriously changed your whole life, in the most horrible ways.Indisputably sex's main goal is re-productionto you maybe. Sex is a natural thing between two people. Sex stimulates a relationship. If the only reason you're having sex is to reproduce.. then I'm not even gonna have this debate with you. If you are going to take that risk than take some birth control, makes sure the guy has condoms and keep someday after pills on hand just incase.Lets say I did that. I take my birth controls, I use condoms.. I do everything. But they can fail. If I used all the protection I could, and still got pregnant, wouldn't I be allowed to take an abortion then, if I were responsible enough to try and prevent the pregnancy in the first place?And why is it okay to use condoms, but not abortion.The result is the same.So a mother killing her child under the stress of having a child she shouldn't be punished as a a normal women? You don't seem to think so.You are comparing a drunken person, killing another man, with a woman who's getting an abortion. How am I going to take that seriously?the government should force them to stop.That's a lovely politic you have going on there. I hope all the babies in your fantasy country are happy, since you know.. people who aren't financially, mentally, emotionally or physically ready for a child are being forced to have it.
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: True

I take my birth controls, I use condoms.. I do everything. But they can fail. If I used all the protection I could, and still got pregnantOf the millions of abortions that happen every year, do you honestly think this one situation is even significant enough to be arguing about? And why is it okay to use condoms, but not abortion.The result is the same.This would be laughable, if not for abortion being such a morbid topic. Abortions take place after a child is conceived, while condoms or any other protection prevent that from even happening. If you call that the same, I would get help. Fast.
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: False

Of the millions of abortions that happen every year, do you honestly think this one situation is even significant enough to be arguing about?Yeah I do think so.This would be laughable, if not for abortion being such a morbid topic. Abortions take place after a child is conceived, while condoms or any other protection prevent that from even happening. If you call that the same, I would get help. Fast.I didn't call it the same. I said the result is the same.
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: True

Yeah I do think so.Well its not...aren't you more concerned about those people that have a abortions after unprotected sex? I didn't call it the same. I said the result is the same.What result? Describe to me the result and we'll see if its the same.
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: False

Well its not...aren't you more concerned about those people that have a abortions after unprotected sex?No I'm not.To me it doesn't matter how the fetus got there, and seriously, why is it relevant for you to know that?What result? Describe to me the result and we'll see if its the same.Well. With condoms.. you have no baby.And with abortion, you don't have any baby either..
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: True

No I'm not.Well you certainly should be.To me it doesn't matter how the fetus got there, and seriously, why is it relevant for you to know that?Wow...I'd say I'm surprised but I'm really not. So you're saying that people who don't want a baby stupid enough to have unprotected sex are on an equal playing field with those who properly applied protection which failed? That's ludicrous and you really should know better. Well. With condoms.. you have no baby.And with abortion, you don't have any baby either..You left out a few important details there buddy. With the killing of a 3-month old with an axe you have no baby. But its the same result! Yippee!
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: False

Well you certainly should be.why?Wow...I'd say I'm surprised but I'm really not. So you're saying that people who don't want a baby stupid enough to have unprotected sex are on an equal playing field with those who properly applied protection which failed? That's ludicrous and you really should know better.Yes that is kind of what I'm saying.I think its unrelative how the fetus got there, if it's unwanted, then it is unwanted.You left out a few important details there buddy. With the killing of a 3-month old with an axe you have no baby. But its the same result! Yippee!What point are you trying to make here?first of all, yes you end up with the same result.second of all, with condoms you don't conceive anything - no baby with abortion you remove a fetus - no babyyou kill a fetus, and you have to know the difference between fetus and child/human/kid before we go on. You don't kill a baby, you kill a mass of cells.
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: False

And no matter what the reason your killing an innocent child.Correction: Fetus.I'm not ok with rape, I just know its not an excuse to kill children.I didn't say you're okay with rape. But apparently you think it's okay to punish a person for being a victim to a crime.You mention a lot that it is killing a child. You're right about killing, you're not right about child. Because if the 'baby' is less than 12 weeks old, it is not a kid, it is a human.You can try and slant it to "oh woe is me, I'm trying to protect the mother" well your trying to kill a kid, that is that.Oh woe is me, I'm trying to protect the mother?!?!?!?!? For God's sake, the woman just got raped. Isn't that enough trauma for one person?Did you listen to anything I said? Sex is to reproduce, but, you can use it for other purposes we all do.Yeah I did listen, and you didn't say that. Let me quote:Did you listen to anything I said? Sex is to reproduce, but, you can use it for other purposes we all do.You said reproduce is the ONLY reason for sex, that is why you have a sad life.No the result is two different things. Condoms stop the egg from ever being fertelized, thus stoping the baby from being alive. If the egg is not fertelized than its NOT ALIVE, once it is though, than it is and an abortion is when you kill the fetus which is a alive. Understand?Condoms stops the sperm to get in contact with the egg. The sperm is alive. If you wanna call a fetus a baby you might as well call all the sperm in your nuts 'all your children'. None of them are humans. First you're a sperm, then you're a fetus, then you're a human, then you're a corps. Do you have any knowledge on this subject besides "what if you get raped?!?!?"I thought the debate was about women who got raped.Abortion is murder, a fetus is an unborn child not some left over product of sex that you own. Killing a fetus is killing a child, if you look at it in any scientific way you would understand this.I am looking at this scientifically. Scientists say, that a 12 week old fetus is not a human.And also, you can't say that a fetus is an unborn child. You have no proof of that it is going to be human some day. It is just a bunch of cells .. a meatball.
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: True

When I quoted you and wrote this: Did you listen to anything I said? Sex is to reproduce, but, you can use it for other purposes we all do.I meant this: No No No, you have it wrong, the purpose of sex is to reproduce that is the only reason
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: True

Correction: Fetus.Correction: A fetus is a child that has not been born yet.I didn't say you're okay with rape. But apparently you think it's okay to punish a person for being a victim to a crime.I'm not punishing them, I'm telling them not to kill the fetus, its a child and its done nothing so it too has a right to life. You mention a lot that it is killing a child. You're right about killing, you're not right about child. Because if the 'baby' is less than 12 weeks old, it is not a kid, it is a human.You just said its a human so it has a right to life no matter what you call it.Yeah I did listen, and you didn't say that. Let me quote:Did you listen to anything I said? Sex is to reproduce, but, you can use it for other purposes we all do.You said reproduce is the ONLY reason for sex, that is why you have a sad life.Again your misinterpreting what I'm saying, sex was made for mainly reprodcution, but we can use it for other things, we all do. Again, if you have sex remember its purpose is to make kids so you need to take steps to not have a kid.Condoms stops the sperm to get in contact with the egg. The sperm is alive. If you wanna call a fetus a baby you might as well call all the sperm in your nuts 'all your children'. None of them are humans. First you're a sperm, then you're a fetus, then you're a human, then you're a corps.A sperm cell doesn't grow into a human and an egg doesn't grow into a human, they are not alive, once they meet though they create life, this is basic biology class. Explain how a fetus is not a human, and no saying "its not conscious" does not make it non-human and saying "its in the mothers body" does not make it non-human. Really, there is not scientific way that of looking at it that says its non-human besides the whole "it doesn't have all the charictaristics of life" argument because 1. it will develop them and 2. if they didn't count that part then kids who haven't hit pueberty wouldn't be considered human either.I thought the debate was about women who got raped.Its about abortion, most people who argue for abortion argue about the rape scenario. Now besides the fact that most abortions aren't over rape, the fetus is now alive, so regardless it has a right to life just like everyone else.I am looking at this scientifically. Scientists say, that a 12 week old fetus is not a human.No, scientists say "it is not fully conscious until 12 weeks thus it is not human until weeks" that is not proof that its not alive or human.And also, you can't say that a fetus is an unborn child. You have no proof of that it is going to be human some day. It is just a bunch of cells .. a meatball.I'm sorry but thats just stupid, I have no proof it will become a human someday? Well so far all babies born have been human, there have been fetus that have died, there have been fetuses that came out mutated, but it is still human, it is by no means a meatball, I suggest you learn up how biology works and stop pretending that a fetus is worthless.
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: False

Correction: A fetus is a child that has not been born yet.Do you have evidence of that? Do you have any evidence of, that all the fetuses currently growing in woman's bellies are ever going to be a child? Science doesn't, so I doubt you have.I'm not punishing them, I'm telling them not to kill the fetus, its a child and its done nothing so it too has a right to life.No it is a fetus, a fetus doesn't have human rights, because it isn't a human. It is a fetus.You just said its a human so it has a right to life no matter what you call it.Do you have evidence of that it is a human? So far science can't prove to you that a fetus is ever going to take human form. That is just what we think, because that is normal right? But there isn't any evidence of, that the tiny meatball we see in a belly is ever going to take human form. You can't give something human rights, because 'you think' it is a human. It isn't. Science won't tell you it is.Again your misinterpreting what I'm saying, sex was made for mainly reprodcution, but we can use it for other things, we all do. Again, if you have sex remember its purpose is to make kids so you need to take steps to not have a kid.Misinterpreting? you said the only reason, I can't know when your choice of words is good or bad.Explain how a fetus is not a humanListen to science. Science tells you, that a a fetus is a bunch of cells. When it is under 12 weeks old, it has no human form, and there is no evidence that it is ever going to be human. For all we know, it is just a meatball.Its about abortionthe debate we two are debating right now is rape. We haven't debated any other subjects in abortion yet.No, scientists say "it is not fully conscious until 12 weeks thus it is not human until weeks" that is not proof that its not alive or human.Science says, that there is no evidence of, that a 11 weeks old fetus is ever going to take human form.I'm sorry but thats just stupid, I have no proof it will become a human someday? Well so far all babies born have been human, LOL!Are you aware of how high the risk of spontaneous abortion is? Especially in the first trimester? I guess not, men usually aren't aware of this.You know how women keep their pregnancy a secret for as long as they can? It's because, that the risk of loosing the baby in the first trimester is soo big, that telling everybody right away is just going to make a spontaneous abortion .. more painful, if they get one.very many women who have children, that I know, have had one or two spontaneous abortion.Don't tell me that every fetus is going to be a human, because that is a lie. It isn't, there is a chance it will be, but there is also a chance that a fly will take human form.I know a woman who've gone through 9 spontaneous abortions. Several women in my family have gone through some too, and since it runs in my family, I'm probably gonna experience it too someday.