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Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: No

Have you ever heard of trafficking?I vaguely remember it from studying for my law degree, yes. It is a crime.No woman wants to be a prostitutue - most of them are forced to by other people, or because they need money to survive.Prove most woman are forced into it. My understand is that they do it for money. Sometimes they have families to support and to put the food on the table. I don't understand your stance at all. Imagine... I woman stands on a street corner. She thinks "Fuck I hate doing this but I haven't eaten in days." The police come along, tell her she's doing something illegal, put her in the cells and the give her a fine. The fine 1) doesn't help her financial situation 2) gives her a criminal record making her feel more integrated into the criminal world and less able to find a job (if they ask about criminal convictions). You are not advocating helping prostitutes, you are advocating making them suffer more.
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: Yes

There are multiple stories from prostitutes out there. There are documentaries showing the streetlife. This is not a big mystery, anyone who thinks prostitution is a choice or anything is ignorant, in my opinion.Imagine this;A russian woman is offered a job in America - it's her dreamjob, a hairdresser. The man who offered her this job is paying for her travel and everything.When she arrives in America, things start to change, and the woman feels like something isn't right. She is then being put in a house, and she's being drugged.They take her passport and any kind of ID, making it impossible for her to escape. They make her addicted to drugs, so she'll never have a reason to stop selling herself.Imagine this;A teenage girl runs away from her abusive home, and alcoholic parents. She has no where to go, and for weeks she eats stuff she'll find in the garbage. Then one day she meets this guy, who seems really nice at first, but after a couple of days changes drastically. He takes her to the same house the russian girl was taken to, and they do the same thing to this girl, as they did to the russian girl.You know .. there will probably be a girl somewhere, who is simply looking for a decent meal, and doesn't really give a fuck who does her, but I am assuming that in your life you've met more than two women - you would know that women are vulnerable. Rape victims are ruined and scarred for their life, and prostitutes are the same. Even though they just want a meal, the scar on their soul can not be compared to a criminal record. Becuase the prostitute will never have a normal life, with or without a criminal record.I am willing to let the 5%, who do it because they love it, suffer, if the rest can be saved.Prove most woman are forced into it.One source tells me 50,000 women and children are brought to America each year. According to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children somewhere between 100,000 and 300,000 children are in danger to become sexslaves.http://www.soroptimist.org/trafficking/prostitution_faq.htmlread that article. I will quote the one line supporting my argument;  any people believe that prostitution is a choice and a valid career path. However, this is a fallacy. Nearly all prostituted women do not choose to engage in prostitution of their own volition, but rather have been forced or coerced against their will.Here are some other sources;http://thinkprogress.org/justice/2013/07/09/2270371/100000-children-are-forced-into-prostitution-each-year/http://sex-crimes.laws.com/prostitution/ prostitution-statistics That last link isn't really supportin anything I say, rather listing some general facts about the horrible life on the street.
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: No

One source tells me 50,000 women and children are brought to America each year. According to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children somewhere between 100,000 and 300,000 children are in danger to become sexslaves.Look, the original poster clearly stated this is not about children. This was intended to stop the argument of "the children the children! Wont someone please think of the children!!". It has nothing to do with children and it is dishonest to use them as an emotional ploy in an argument that has nothing to do with them. (oh and I have no idea what 'in danger of becoming sex slaves' means. I could legitimately say there are billions of children in danger of becoming sex slaves by being allowed to leave the house). You know .. there will probably be a girl somewhere, who is simply looking for a decent meal, and doesn't really give a fuck who does her, but I am assuming that in your life you've met more than two women - you would know that women are vulnerable. Rape victims are ruined and scarred for their life, and prostitutes are the same. Even though they just want a meal, the scar on their soul can not be compared to a criminal record. Becuase the prostitute will never have a normal life, with or without a criminal record.Yes and you are advocating punishing this girl.This is not the story for everyone. A friend of mine occasionally did prostitution. She was a pole dancer and quite liked the feeling of takings hundreds of pounds from men for quick acts of sex. She felt empowered and knew she could stop at any time. I knew her because we used to play Ultima Online (an MMORPG) together. She should not be sent to jail or fined for doing this.However, you have a point that pimping and trafficking force some woman into sex. That is why pimping and trafficking are illegal. This is enough. A civilised criminal justice system should only punish acts that cause harm to others. There is absolutely no justification for punishing the prostitute. Even if it is for her own good. This is not how society should function.I am willing to let the 5%, who do it because they love it, suffer, if the rest can be saved. Who cares of a few thousand people (this is probably 5% of the total number of prostitutes) go to jail? They're only prossies after all. Well that attitude has its problems. No innocent person should be imprisoned for the good of other. My friend and thousands like her should not suffer for doing something she wants to do. We do not sacrifice people for the good of society.
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: Yes

Look, the original poster clearly stated this is not about children. Where is the original poster?Yes and you are advocating punishing this girl.You don't want her to have a decent life, if that's not a punishment I don't know what is.This is not the story for everyone. For most of them, this is the exact story. And I've given you links and articles to prove this.A civilised criminal justice system should only punish acts that cause harm to others. There is absolutely no justification for punishing the prostitute. Even if it is for her own good. This is not how society should function.Prostitution causes harm to the prostitute herself. Did you see the last link I gave you? A prostitute gets in average beat up 12 times a year, out of 100,000 prostitutes 204 of them are murdered, they have unprotected sex 300 times a year, which practically gives them every std out there, half of them are HIV positive, the average age when a girl starts as a prostitute is 14 years old, NOT NEARLY OLD ENOUGH to make such a decision. You say it's not about children, even though it is. You turn the blind side to an industry that is so so so wrong.The most important fact in the link I gave you is that 92% of prostitutes want to quit, but can't becuase due to lack of money or food.We do not sacrifice people for the good of society.Should we sacrifice people for horny men, who aren't charming enough to score instead?
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: No

Explain to me. How would making it illegal stop it happening? If it is legal woman can approach professionals I say "look, I'm a prostitute I need help". With your idea you make them criminals. Criminals are bad people that should be in jail. They're not going to get help. Pimping and trafficking is illegal. How would the fact that prostitute is illegal persuade pimps and traffickers to stop?? Doesn't make any sense. You're saying the prostitute has no control in this.For most of them, this is the exact story. And I've given you links and articles to prove this.Tell me, if stories like my friends were common, would they be published on the type of site that you linked me too? They are morally opposed to prostitution.The most important fact in the link I gave you is that 92% of prostitutes want to quit, but can't because due to lack of money or food.99% of people probably want to quit they job if money wasn't an issue too. So actually prostitutes are more satisfied than most people it seems!!For most of them, this is the exact story. And I've given you links and articles to prove this.That's stupid. I want her to have a decent life. There are a number of initiatives to help prostitutes. Your idea of locking them up doesn't help anyone. They'll still do it and get locked up as a result. they have unprotected sex 300 times a year, which practically gives them every std out there, half of them are HIV positive,In the Netherlands where it is regulated it is illegal for a prostitute to have unprotected sex and they must be HIV tested. gets in average beat up 12 times a yearI wonder which country that stat is from? I imagine that this is worse in countries where prostitution is illegal. If a prostitute goes to a police station, admits doing something illegal and says they got hit in the process - whose going to give a fuck? It is only by legitimatising prostitution that you can protect prostitutes. If someone gets hit during the course of their profession, rather than during criminal activity, they might actually be taken seriously.
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: Yes

Why does the prostitute have to be the cirminal in order to make it illegal? There are two people who are making the crime happen, so why only blame the girl?Prohibiton, regulation, abolition - The prohibitionist approach is characterized by criminalization of all prostitution-related activities: soliciting, procuring, pimping, and brothel keeping. The regulation approach is characterized by the legalization and regulation of the sex industry. The abolitionist approach is characterized by the treatment of women and children used in prostitution as victims in need of services and the treatment of the buyers and traffickers as perpetrators. In this scheme, those who sell sex acts are decriminalized, whereas those who buy others for sex are criminalized.You don't have to make the prostitute a criminal, even though prostitution is illegal.99% of people probably want to quit they job if money wasn't an issue tooWhat? No, that's not true at all. Most people, I know, like working. People who don't work are more than three times as likely to suffer from depression and other mental disorders.I want her to have a decent life.No you don't. You want her to either sell her own body for sex, or put her in prison? How are either of those a life worth living?In the Netherlands where it is regulated it is illegal for a prostitute to have unprotected sex and they must be HIV tested.But they do it anyway, because unprotected sex gives more money.I wonder which country that stat is from? I imagine that this is worse in countries where prostitution is illegal.Studies of countries that have attempted a decriminalization approach with the goal of regulating the industry and/or attempting to support women have shown that these methods have not been successful. For example, in parts of Germany, Australia and the Netherlands, where governments have supported a legalization scheme, there has been an expansion of the sex industry. Further, women in these areas still report high levels of violence perpetrated by buyers. Under a legalization scheme, enforcement can also suffer because efforts are spent regulating the legal aspects of the sex industry rather than law enforcement focusing on the perpetrators and the illegal aspects.(source: www.endvawnow.org/en/articles/560-prostitution-and-sex-trafficking-offences.html)
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: No

Why does the prostitute have to be the cirminal in order to make it illegal? There are two people who are making the crime happen, so why only blame the girl?Well this is the first time that you've brought this point up in this debate... I agree that soliciting sex for payment should be illegal. Prostitution should not.What? No, that's not true at all. Most people, I know, like working. People who don't work are more than three times as likely to suffer from depression and other mental disorders.I suspect it is more that people that are depressed and have other mental health problems are more likely not to have a job rather than people that don't have a job are more likely to be depressed or have other mental health problems. If you asked most people if they'd still work if they won the lottery, they'd say no.No you don't. You want her to either sell her own body for sex, or put her in prison? How are either of those a life worth living?Ah right you understand exactly what I meant. good. I thought we were going round in circles. Absolutely - I want her to sell her body or go to jail. Great. Fantastic... for fucks sake. Also, I think it is very immature to try and judge what is and is not a 'life worth living'. But they do it anyway, because unprotected sex gives more money.The point was that there wouldn't be an average 500 unprotected sexual encounters per prostitute per year.studies of countries that have attempted a decriminalization approach with the goal of regulating the industry and/or attempting to support women have shown that these methods have not been successful. For example, in parts of Germany, Australia and the Netherlands, where governments have supported a legalization scheme, there has been an expansion of the sex industry. Further, women in these areas still report high levels of violence perpetrated by buyers. Under a legalization scheme, enforcement can also suffer because efforts are spent regulating the legal aspects of the sex industry rather than law enforcement focusing on the perpetrators and the illegal aspects.I find this to be highly biased... the expansion of the sex industry is not in itself a bad thing. Also is no reason why law enforcement would lose funding just because they decide to fund regulation of prostitutes - that is absurd. It says 'high level of violence'. It is unclear whether this is less than under non-regulated systems. I suspect for a project with the purpose of 'empowering woman' they could legitimately say that two violent attacks a year was a 'high level of violence'. It needs to be comparative.
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: Yes

If you asked most people if they'd still work if they won the lottery, they'd say no.I asked everyone in my family just now, some of my friends too. Only one of them said they wouldn't work and that was a 15 year old boy.I am raised in a country where working isn't something everyone has to do to survive, but most people generally wants to. No one wants to sit home and do nothing. I'm not saying most people would quit their current jobs, and get an education or something, but no one would just quit all work all together.You are a lawyer, right? Those years in lawschool would have been a waste if the only reasonn you are doing it is because of the money.Also, I think it is very immature to try and judge what is and is not a 'life worth living'. Oh, how would you think if someone made you addicted to drugs and forced you to sell yourself on the street? And how would you feel when afterwards some idiots, probably the same idiots who purchased you for sex (just sayin'), said that your lifestyle was a choice?The point was that there wouldn't be an average 500 unprotected sexual encounters per prostitute per year.Yeah it wouldRegulated prostitution has been done in Germany, Netherlands and Austria. That method didn't work.
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: No

You are a lawyer, right? Those years in lawschool would have been a waste if the only reasonn you are doing it is because of the money.hehe, most lawyers have studied it for the money.Oh, how would you think if someone made you addicted to drugs and forced you to sell yourself on the street? And how would you feel when afterwards some idiots, probably the same idiots who purchased you for sex (just sayin'), said that your lifestyle was a choice?It is sometimes better to live that way that to starve to death. I don't think you should jduge.Regulated prostitution has been done in Germany, Netherlands and Austria. That method didn't work.You haven't showed me anything about whether it is worse in those countries or not.
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: Yes

hehe, most lawyers have studied it for the money.That's sad, truly sad. Especially when you don't get that good a salary unless you are extremely good.There are millionairs and billionairs all around the world. They still work. They pay thousands and thousands of dollars for their children to get a college degree - why would they do that, if their children can live of their money? Because everyone wants to do something.I'm pretty sure you would get sick of spending your entire day on create debate after winning the lottery, and you would soon go back to work.It is sometimes better to live that way that to starve to death. I don't think you should jduge.I said you should give them a home and help them get an education. You are very cynical - either they sell themselves for sex, starve to death or go to prison - those are your only options for these women, where 92% wanna stop what their doing.You haven't showed me anything about whether it is worse in those countries or not.Yes I did, you should click on some of the links I gave you.
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: Yes

If prostitutes are so pro-prostitution, why don't you ever see them protest? Hey, why don't you go and collect all your prostitutes, who you claim like what they do, or have nothing against doing what they're doing, and ask them to protest.Maybe then I'll let them do their thing.
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: No

Because many people, such as you, think it should be made illegal. Societies views prostitutes as the lowest of the low. They shouldn't be viewed this way. Prostitutes are never going to be able to get help for the problems they encounter if it is part of illegal activity. It needs to be legitimised.
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: Yes

But people should be punished fror putting the community at risk for disease.
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: No

Are you saying that in order to be a prostitute you have to have diseases? There are many clean prostitutes and indeed every prostitute has a social obligation to make sure they're clean. It is a legal requirement in the Netherlands, for example.
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: No

Awesome. I just think prostitution is a sign that the person selling their body has been betrayed by the system. No one sels their body for kicks. People do it cuz they were raped, beccause they are starving, etc or they are forced to do it.
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: Yes

No one sels their body for kicks.Actually, that's not true. There are some. I think it may even be a pretty high percentage (10-20%). If you think about it, it is really easy to do, and you can get money for something that others give away for free. That appeals to some people. Everyone is wired differently.
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: No

Are you serious Dana? So if someone goes to work knowing he has the flu, he should be punished?
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: Yes

Im talking only about diseases that can kill like AIDS TB ebola stuff like that. Im sorry if I made ye mad.
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: No

You didn't made me mad, but that it stupid Dana.Aids is a disease, just like the flu. You can't arrest some people for spreading certain diseases, but others not. What about the swine flu? That's a pretty nasty one too right, should I be arrested for spreading that?
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: Yes

Thats the thing about me. I dont care. You believe whatever and ill do the same. Im not changing my mind. If someone knows they have AIDS, hides their status, and someone gets AIDS because of their lies, they are a murderer that shoould end up in jail.
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: No

they are a murderer that shoould end up in jail.You can live a regular long life with aids, the only reason you die from aids is if you live in Africa or India. With medicine aids is not a lifethreatening disease.Now to the rest of your argument. I'm sorry - but that is ridiculous for two reasons:1. Let's say that you are the king of the world, and you have made this a law; If someone knows he has aids, and has unprotected sex with another person, he or she will be punished with jailtimeIf I have unprotected sex with someone who knows he has aids, and later on it so turns out that I have aids too - know I choose to report this person to the police for giving me aids. My question is Dana, how can I ever prove to the police that this is the person who gave me aids? I could just as easily have gotten it from any other person.2. If it's illegal have unprotected sex when you know you have aids, must it then be illegal to go to work knowing you have the flu? Is it illegal to shake hands if you forgot to wash your hands after the visit to the toilet? Imagine - every single french person would probably be in jail, for giving people diseases via those little kisses they give each other on the cheek.Your opinion is irrational and unrealistic, and you should watch yourself when saying things like that out loud - who knows you might be the reason for somebody elses diarrhea
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: Yes

I just think its wrong to knowingly give someone a deadly disease.
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: No

A lot of things are wrong Dana. Jailtime for everything that's wrong is going to give everybody alive a cirminal record. Nobody is sinfree, you're a christian right? You believe in that.
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: Yes

Of course everyone does wrong things. i swore like a drunken hooker when I had to get up but there is a dif between being rude and ruining someones life. Its just my belief, I hope I dont sound rude hun. :)
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: No

Aids is of course a horrible disease to get - but it doesn't ruin your life, just saying.
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: Yes

Ill take some time to think about this. Maybe I am wrong. I would just hate myself if i made someone sick. May I ask you something without seeming rude? i want your op on something.
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: Yes

You can ask me - but I can't guarantee you that you won't sound rude :)
Debate: Should prostitution be made illegal everywhere in this world?
Side: Yes

What if someone gives someone AIDS on purpose and they cant get meds. What do you think should happen?