azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

"And barely any Christians follow the biblical moral code (some of which is likely illegal)."Just because a few Christians aren't strong believers doesn't mean that "barely any Christians follow the biblical moral code"."So we have gone from people who believe in god, to Christians, to people who strictly follow Christian dogma...logic doesn't work that way.And who says these restrictions are logical? And why do Christians pick and choose which ones they follow? "Because some of the laws are specific to the time they were made (e.g do not eat pig and other "unclean" creatures). "There is no standard of ethics among theists...You can't actually be this oblivious to what your argument is."What is murder to some people can be seen as justice to others. One person can think himself a freedom fighter while others call him a terrorist. "I'll take this as a concession that secular laws are based on an atheistic morality, excluding the religious ones which are incredibly childish and stupid."How am I supposed to debate with you if you're arguments are mainly constructed of opinions?
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

I wonder who started more wars, Atheists or religious believers?
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

Atheists. If we conclude that every war not started by "religious reasons" is an atheistic war. Then atheistic wars outnumber "religious wars" greatly.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

This point. I like it .
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

There are as many bad things in the bible as there are good. There are as many good moral lessons as there are bad. If we followed the bible and what christianity teaches word for word, then we would be stoning homosexuals, stoning adulterers, slavery might still be permitted and etc. It's cherry picking certain parts of the bible and saying "oh look how moral we are, and look how amoral atheists must be because they don't follow any moral code" that makes me laugh at christians. I know not to go and kill someone and I also know that homosexuality is not actually a choice but a biological thing, and even if it was a choice, there is nothing wrong with it, it's just someones way of life, that may differ to my own but is no more correct than what I choose to do in my own house.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

You think following rules that make no sense and tell you to stone children to death and many other evil things is good, is better? Better than not doing those things because one knows they are wrong and bad without anyone telling them so?I don't need any idiotic rules to know what is right or wrong, I have the products of my own mind for that. I'm not a sadistic child-rapist or anything as bad or worse because I know it is wrong, not because I am afraid of going to hell.If you don't do bad things merely because you follow some idiotic religion then you are worth less than pig shit. I mean that literally, word by word.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

look at this, a modern day man using prehistoric interpretations, hey buddy, WE HAVE EVOLVED and you obviously still believe the official lie, dude religion is a form of control, god is not, religion is, god is good, religion is the devil, calling someone less than pigshit is wrong, and you shoud know that, shouldnt you? oh unless you think you are higher up than everyone for some reason?
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

Hey buddy, God is part of religion which itself is a means of control. God was made up for control.There is no God. Wanna know why? Because it is made up and there is also no evidence.I can come up with all kinds of stuff, would all that be real simply because I made it up? No! I would still need proof to affirm it is real.calling someone less than pigshit is wrong, and you shoud know that, shouldnt you?If they are incapable of recognizing right and wrong on their own, with their own mental capacity? If they don't do bad or wrong because they are afraid of hell or because they think it is bad simply because they are told so?Humanity doesn't need robots who do as commanded, we need people who have a mind of their own.oh unless you think you are higher up than everyone for some reason?What do you mean by higher up? If you mean mental capacity then oh yes, I'm higher up than most of humanity, and I'm fairly certain many around here can say the same. Not so sure about you though... as you claim there is a God even though there is zero evidence.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

No, god is not a part of religion, the concept of god has long been around before religion, no evidence for god? are you blind? You must be because as i see it there is no evidence for god NOT existing, so shut the fuck up, you think you are so much better because you have a "higher mental capacity" oh please, any one who calls themselves a genius, is obviously not
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

No, god is not a part of religion, the concept of god has long been around before religionThe majority of religions state a god created the world and/or the universe, so yes a god/s is part of religion.no evidence for god? are you blind? You must be because as i see it there is no evidence for god NOT existingI... I don't even know how to respond to this... Are you mental? Give me one valid piece of evidence for the existence of a god/s. Verified, peer-reviewed, please.so shut the fuck up, you think you are so much better because you have a "higher mental capacity" oh please, any one who calls themselves a genius, is obviously notPointless ranting much?
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

ya but religions didnt show up at the start of humanity, that was gasp shamanism, religion stole godshow me valid evidence for god not existing?how did the big bang come into being? just popped out of thin air? that sounds way more unbelievable than believing in some type of god, and the higgs boson proves other dimensions, so...................
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

ya but religions didnt show up at the start of humanity, that was gasp shamanism, religion stole godShamanism is a bunch of BS.show me valid evidence for god not existing?Nope! Not how it works, old chap. The person who is making the positive claim (which would be you, since you are claiming a god/s exist) has the Burden of Proof.how did the big bang come into being? just popped out of thin air? that sounds way more unbelievable than believing in some type of god, and the higgs boson proves other dimensions, soUh... what? There was no "popping" involved in the Big Bang. It was an expansion, not an explosion...http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_BangAnd how does multiple dimensions disprove the Big Bang theory?
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

you ttoally missed the point, HOW did the big bang even show up? HOW did it come into existence, not our universe, the big bang, how did the big bang come into existence? and also if its expanding what is it expanding into? ever think about that? What lies outside the universe could very well be a place where the laws of nature cease to exist, but you have probaby never given this much thought to something, but you would never even acknowledge the possibility because theres "no evidence" and besides i dont have the burden of proof, i have the burden of knowledge, and am labelled as crazy for having to deal with it, so, if you believe in a society that labels and judges people for thinking differently, you must be a sheep
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

you ttoally missed the point, HOW did the big bang even show up? HOW did it come into existence, not our universe, the big bang, how did the big bang come into existence?I believe I can shed some light on this.We don't know, but we have several very strong hypotheses. With the discovery of the Higgs Boson quite likely now, brane collision is a popular theory. It is a form of multiverse, in that there exists a dimension in which objects called branes float around. Occasionally, due to quantum fluctuations, the branes crease and collide with one another, releasing enough energy to cause a big bang.That is the leading theory, though there are others if this does not satisfy you.and also if its expanding what is it expanding into? Expanding towards a state of maximum entropy, in which all energy will be "used up", per se.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

how did the big bang come into being? just popped out of thin air? that sounds way more unbelievable than believing in some type of godYeah it makes much more sense that a all powerful all knowing all good god created the universe instead of simple condensed matter.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

i really wish people would learna new concept for god and stop tying it to the christians definition, its very annoying
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

You must be a troll... I think I said it somewhere before also.Give me evidence for a God's existence! Tangible evidence, not something that only exists in your trash can.If there is no evidence that means that God does not exist, with an extremely high probability. Claiming it does is just... delusional (there ain't a lack of those around here).so shut the fuck up, you think you are so much better because you have a "higher mental capacity" oh please, any one who calls themselves a genius, is obviously notI definitely have a much higher mental capacity than you. And, I've never said I'm a genius, in fact I don't feel like one.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

im not gonna sit here and argue evidence that you will never accept, its pointless, and you know it is. im not even going to argue with you anymore because im sick of my arguments being picked apart like a lab experiment and looked at indirectly, n00b
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

This is a debate site. If you're going to whine every time people dispute your bullshit arguments, then leave.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

if youre gonna whine about not having proof because we are controlled to such an extent that all we have is anecdotal evidence to go off, and anytime you try to question you are labelled "mentally insane" then you can keep chugging straight into the grinder, why dont you try going off both sides of the story, and we can come to a competely new conclusion about "reality"? science isnt the answer to everything, as much as you would like it to be
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

im not gonna sit here and argue evidence that you will never accept,Evidence? What evidence? You have never provided me any evidence! Where is the evidence??? There is no evidence!its pointless, and you know it is.What the fuck is with your "and you know blah blah". The only thing I know is that you are delusional. im not even going to argue with you anymore because im sick of my arguments being picked apart like a lab experiment and looked at indirectly, I pick them apart because there's so much nonsense. And I look at them directly. You simply have a twisted perception of reality.n00bThis shows you do not belong here. It's not a game here. And if anything then you are the n00b as you are new here, and also apparently ignorant of reality.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

you are not smart, you are trained and programmed, just like a robot, and you know this is true, you are not a human if all you do is study results and do calculations, thats a robot, humans connect with nature, humans have imagination, humans dont confuse education and training, like plato said it is not education to be more intellectually higher than others or physically stonger, those are skills that are trained, so im pretty sure you dont know anything, so zip it
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

This was meant for me?you are not smart,Yet you give such a stupid "argument".you are trained and programmed, just like a robot,Trained and programmed if I was raised with no religion, with no indoctrination of any kind, no brainwashing, etc? If I have developed my own opinions on my own, using my own mind?and you know this is true,All I know is true is that you have mental issues, if not severe then definitely strong ones.you are not a human if all you do is study results and do calculations, thats a robot,Not human? I'm fairly certain I am... Or are you saying I shouldn't have all these wires attached to me?When did I say I do only those? I can't seem to recall... Care to nudge my memory a bit? humans connect with nature, humans have imagination,Connect with nature? I walk outside nearly everyday, pass a river, it's nice, calm and peaceful.Imagination? How about a 20 thousand word fantasy story not on Earth and doesn't involve humans, created from scratch? That good enough?dont confuse education and training,Education is also mental training. So, yeah...it is not education to be more intellectually higher than others or physically stonger, those are skills that are trained,This what I have said here isn't just from education, it's mostly inherent mental capacity, something I have without education far higher than yours, obviously. Intellectually I am higher than you. Physically, well, I certainly am not weak... those are skills that are trained,Yes, they can be trained. As can your inherent abilities you have since birth be trained.so im pretty sure you dont know anything, so zip itHey, I'm not the one basing my opinions on fantasy. You are, so you had better zip it, till you come to senses.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

It's not a stupid argument, or even a stupid reason why we are debating, you just treat it as such.I grew up without indoctrination too, and without religion, but i am wise enough to know not to pass off this stuff as "myth and fairytales" we are slaves to a machine, the state we are in today is an exact resemblance of old time prophecy, but you see our ancestors warnings as not important, how would you feel if you tried to warn humanity and noone listened?im not basing my opinions in fantasy, just because nonphysical reality most likely exists, its fantasy, right, and im deluded?
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

It's not a stupid argument, or even a stupid reason why we are debating, you just treat it as such.If I treat something as stupid then there's a reason for it - that it is stupid.but i am wise enough to know not to pass off this stuff as "myth and fairytales" we are slaves to a machine,Do you also not pass Harry Potter, LOTR, and all other fantasy works as "myth and fairy tales"? They are all fantasy works, just as is religious stuff. It would be unwise to not pass them off as what you said.we are slaves to a machine,What machine? Proof... the state we are in today is an exact resemblance of old time prophecy,Proof?I could easily make my own "prophecies" and I'm sure one day, to some extent, they would become true. Simply because you see similarities does not make it real. There have been similarities throughout centuries, yet we are still all here.but you see our ancestors warnings as not important,They are unimportant. They are irrational. How many times has the world ended and how many prophecies have there been? Ended zero times, obviously. how would you feel if you tried to warn humanity and noone listened?Warn them about what? Some fantasy I made up? Why should anyone listen to nonsense (the billions of religious, eh, kinda funny)?If it was some real threat that had real evidence then people would listen.im not basing my opinions in fantasy,So far you have indicated the opposite.just because nonphysical reality most likely exists, its fantasy, right, and im deluded?You are saying it exists with absolute certainty, yet there is no evidence at all. That means the best thing you could say is that it might exist, but since there is no evidence it most probably does not. Just because you can come up with something does not necessarily make it real, to affirm it is real you need tangible evidence.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

yes there has been many prophecies but the mayans are the end all, they studied this thing for a living practically, all other predictions were pointless, because the 2012 prophecy is the end all, no more after it, and now thanks to all the boys who cried wolf, we will not notice the wolf coming.yes but the experience they were trying to interpret, you dont understand, people who claim to have reached a full conciousness, they most likely experienced an eternity , from before creation all the way to the end, the prophecies written were by people who had attained universal conciousness, and when you just come out af an experience that lasts an eternity and come back to the restriction of the human perception of time, will make one go insane, but the experience was real nonetheless, they saw all of what is to be seen when standing outside of time
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

You seriously believe the 2012 world ending bullshit theories? Now I am truly beginning to think you're mad...http://news.discovery.com/space/nasa-debunks-2012-apocalypse.html http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=nasa-crushes-2012-mayan-apocalypse-claims
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

lol you would believe that, dont you realize if prophecy is true, then NASA is in on it too, maybe not directly, but the people who own nasa take orders from higher up, its a twisted system, also that article is 3 years old, and the world isnt going to end, its a rebirth, do your research
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

Did you also know there are unicorns running around, horny and everything? It's a rainbowy mess out there - leprechauns would love it.Well, now you know.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

did you also know that not believing in anything is psychologically damaging? I mean at least i believe in SOMETHING, as far fetchd as it may be, at least i have the power to believe and not claim atheism so i dont have to worry about my beliefs until im on my deathbed
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

Yeah, yeah, I already got it, you're a troll.Quite the opposite, believing (taking something as true with no evidence) in something is psychologically damaging. I mean at least i believe in SOMETHING, That seems to be the problem.at least i have the power to believe and not claim atheism so i dont have to worry about my beliefs until im on my deathbedYou don't know what atheism means? It means the lack of belief in a god or gods.The deathbed thing, completely irrelevant.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

ok and if i believe we are all gods then what? if i believe you are a god, are you saying you dont believe in yourself? do you not know we are all gods?
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

First, ???Second, there are no gods.Define your God, the characteristics. What is a God like?
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

my god? well we are all gods, but we have an ultimate "one source" that we are all seperated from right now, every god is different, and it depends on how you would use your power- there are good and bad gods, not everything can be perfect, that would be nice, but we would never grow or learn anything, the characteristics of a god is not having any attachment to material objects, having a deep respect for all walks of life, not judging anyone, respecting the universe we were given to live in... basically not judging and just respecting life in general will advance you down this road, and its a very interesting road, our version of good and bad quickly dissolves when you have a higher conciousness
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

well we are all gods, We are not gods. That is a fact that needs no other proof but simple logic that every sane person has.but we have an ultimate "one source" that we are all seperated from right now,Yea, the place before the Bang.every god is different, You've never met one, so you cannot know. But first, proof of gods' existence?and it depends on how you would use your power- there are good and bad gods, not everything can be perfect, that would be nice, but we would never grow or learn anything,Fantasy, the god part. the characteristics of a god is not having any attachment to material objects,Proof? having a deep respect for all walks of life,Proof? not judging anyone,Proof? respecting the universe we were given to live in...I can do this all day, except when I sleep, or am in the gym, or anything else that is more important. basically not judging and just respecting life in general will advance you down this road, and its a very interesting road, our version of good and bad quickly dissolves when you have a higher conciousnessProof?If you claim something, do not just say, give evidence. Otherwise it is and will remain fantasy.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

you will never, ever, EVER believe this until you start walking down the path, jesus says we are all gods, so either two things; you think everyone who believes in the supernatural is some type of nutjob (poor logic) or you start acknowledging the possibility, but until then, you will keep judging, keep disrespecting and everything else that is not "god like" if you want to be a god, you have to act like a god, and you will never have proof of this outside of buddha, vishnu, jesus, and pacal, and other ascended masters who have claimed to reach this statebased on what you believe, the entire east, is delusional and mentally ill?
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

you will never, ever, EVER believe this until you start walking down the path, jesus says we are all gods,Proof that jesus existed?Proof that we are gods?If I said something that makes no sense but the fact that I said it would make it true? Sorry but, that's not how it works.you think everyone who believes in the supernatural is some type of nutjob (poor logic) or you start acknowledging the possibility,They claim something to be absolutely real while there is absolutely no evidence at all. So yeah, they have to be nuts for that, at least a bit.If something is against logic, against rational thinking, against reality then it is not a possibility. if you want to be a god, you have to act like a god,Wtf??? Why the fuck should I want to be a god? Sure, lot's of power would be nice, just to how everything works, what is outside, what all is possible, all that within my power. But I would not allow myself to be called or regarded as a god, not in any situations, not under any circumstances. I'm not a fucking idiot. I would be just like everyone else, simply very powerful and with lots of knowledge.Acting like a god? There is no "acting like a god." and you will never have proof of this outside of buddha, vishnu, jesus, and pacal, and other ascended masters who have claimed to reach this stateThey haven't ascended anywhere. Perhaps they have gained more control over their own body but that is all.based on what you believe, the entire east, is delusional and mentally ill?How many religious are there? That's how delusional they are (of course there can be other delusions also but religion is the most prominent).
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

why the hell then would ANYONE ever EVER say we are gods? even in a story? back then, that would have gotten you murdered in a heartbeat, so for someone to claim that, there has to be some reason behind it, if something like the supernatural exists, then it is not supernatural, but perfectly natural, if you want to sit and learn how to explain life, go for it, why would you explain it? what is the point of explaining it? what if spirituality is the missing link? what if science ultimately fails and finds out god is an irrational formula?