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Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Those who assume pro lifers don't care about the woman's life, you're mistaken. We care about both the mother's life and the infant's. However, killing the infant growing in a woman's womb does not justify it just because the woman wants it out of her. It is murder. If you are a woman reading this, you'd understand, having a child is a great responsibility. So don't have sex unless you are with the right man in a happy marriage and have decided together as a couple to have children. Children are created by two people regardless, therefore the decision of abortion is up to both the man and the woman. Pro abortionists aka child murderers aka severe convicts do not have any excuse to justifying the death of a developing newborn. Pro abortionists argue through poor strawman strategies that it's "my body my choice", however, it was your choice to have sex in the first place; to women who have gone nuts over sex sex sex with any man she can get her claws on. Yeah, control yourself and quit killing babies on purpose. It is absolutely irresponsible. For those who argue "fetuses aren't human", well you were once fetuses too weren't you, pro baby murderers? Why didn't your mothers abort you eh? Because they cherished you, that's why. But growing up to hate on other newborns that are developing, that just brings shame on you as women. You may deny that you regret abortion if you have experienced it, but it will never rest on your conscience. Never. I have won this debate. Any opposition will be banned on sight. My word is absolute and righteous. Baby lives matter and abortion rights will be eradicated 100%.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Pro choice claim it's "my body my choice", however, they do not understand what choice means right? Choice means you have options. Not one but two. That's why pro lifers make sense and pro choice doesn't. Pro choicers all scream, "MY BODY MY CHOICE" AND THEN CLAIM THEY ARE FOR WOMEN'S RIGHTS. Yet have you ever thought about asking a real woman what she wants to do if she is pregnant? Yeah. If you aren't a woman who is pregnant or if you are a man who isn't in a relationship with a man, especially in a marriage, THAN DON'T GET INVOLVED. You pro abortionists claim you are for women's rights, yet you don't let pro lifers speak up eh? That's your hypocrisy and I will continue to argue common sense because pro lifers are common sense. Abortion is murder. Fetuses are living. They develop over 9 months. Baby lives matter. Ask real mothers who have seemingly gone through abortions. Pro abortionists may claim they care but they never will because they think baby lives do not matter. All you pro abortionists do is you want to have sex and than you don't take responsibility for the baby. Give it a rest, take responsibility AND THEN YOU WON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. But do you listen? Nope. That's why, pro abortionists are not common sense. They are child murderers with no morality. Anyone as much as lifts a finger, you will be shot down by the truth and only the truth.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Hear it from an ex abortionist who finally woke up to the truth of the horrors of abortion and why it's murder:
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

A message from an ex abortionist to women:Ex abortionist explains how it's a lie that "abortion is easy". Most women who go through with this either never had fulfillment as a mother/wife or simply hates the idea of having children.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Another former abortionist has a conversation about why she stopped being an abortionist and became pro life.To you abortionists;Kill the fetuses and what? Everybody is as ugly as you? You abortionists are no better than Joker when he tried to get two groups of humans on two ships to blow each other up. It is indeed NEVER A RIGHT TO KILL A DEVELOPING CHILD. We ALL WERE FETUSES ONCE. In ALL OF OUR MOTHERS' WOMBS, INDIVIDUALLY. To dehumanize a mere developing fetus aka a developing human being; boy or girl wise says alot about yourself too. Why would your life matter if you dehumanized another's? Your mother and father cared enough to bring you into this world. God created us. Our bodies do not belong to us. Procreation is a gift not something to be played with through irresponsibility. I knew, I KNEW NOT ALL WOMEN WOULD LET THEIR CONSCIENCE REST ABOUT ABORTION GOING THROUGH AS RIGHTEOUS BECAUSE IT ISN'T!!! Relationships takes two people; one man and one woman. The responsibility falls unto both the man and the woman. If you don't want to make that choice of looking after a child, DON'T. HAVE. SEX. DON'T HAVE A RELATIONSHIP.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Pro choicer destroyed by logical pro lifer:Logic and reason over emotion. The red head doesn't know anything about abortion. Claiming that the nice lady at the stand is denying science? HYPOCRITE! All of you pro abortionists are HYPOCRITES! YOU WERE ALL ONCE FETUSES IN YOUR MOTHERS' WOMBS. BY SAYING FETUSES ARE NOT LIVING, YOU ARE ALSO SAYING YOU ARE NOT LIVING TOO!! "Subjective?" Is biology subjective? Is it built on opinions? NO! And yes, there is responsibility that falls onto the man and the woman! Nice try red head, but you're dumber than all the blonde chicks and brunettes around. Pro abortionists avoid the responsibilities and consequences that comes from heterosexual sex! This is why marriage is important! This is why pre marital sex is wrong and also out of control! I recommend EVERYBODY WATCH THIS THROUGH AND LISTEN. EVEN TRUMP WOULD AGREE WITH PRO LIFERS!God prevails!
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

The red head asks "Why are we still here protesting? Why are we here debating?". The answer isn't as simple as you'd think. But pro abortionists think otherwise. That's how it is subjective. The reason why is because "Abortionists persist without logical reasoning. It's simply Kill the baby or else you're "hateful!". Sounds like female Nazis aka feminazis. The point here is, you think there is a choice to abort babies and you think it's right. But just because there is a choice to take human life, doesn't mean it is righteous. What can you say about yourselves if someone had come up to you and had said, "Your life doesn't count". It goes back to my point, we all were fetuses once and if you simply say that fetuses are not living, than you can totally be dehumanized in the same way. Double standards exist. If there are people who want to take the lives of babies away with the subjective belief that it "protects" women, there will be those who defend the lives of developing human beings in women's wombs individually. If you encounter a pro abortionist and he or she tells you, a fetus isn't living, you can tell them, "Well that's just misinformation because biology proves the opposite of your subjective claims". There are risks to abortion too.One does not simply abort a developing baby
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Abortion should be legal. The government should never have the right to make decisions pertaining to one's own body and/or a decision to bring a child into the world or not. It takes the moral responsibility to do what is right away from the individual and this would cause us to become more and more conditioned to behave in whatever ways the establishment chooses to mold us. It would contradict the very core of what it means to be free.If we make abortion illegal, shouldn't we also make adoption? In case you don't know, the business of adoption is in the billions per year. Making abortion illegal would bolster this industry even further, and allow desperate people to become "baby merchants", for profit. An example would be a girlfriend of mine who needed money and decided to sell her eggs. What moral ground does that hold? Not to mention the financial burden more children would put on the American people in light of high inflation and low wages, health care costs, education etc. Forcing you to keep a child could very well sink many families into poverty. To me, the person undertaking an abortion has enough to deal with that they don't need my opinion on their moral character on top of it. They don't need my judgement because they're the ones having to live with that decision. And of course legal abortion would come with regulations to protect it from abuse. I think there's a lot that can be done to provide people the freedom of choice without allowing them to abuse that freedom, just like many other things in this country. If we make abortion illegal, adoption agencies might start to look like dog pounds.I think we need to believe that the majority of people in this country, and around the world, are good people seeking nothing more than the best chance at living a healthy and happy life. We are not all predisposed to moral corruption, poor decision making and ignorance. If we want to prosper as a nation we have to believe in our fellow man and that he will do what's right, however, that faith will not come without regulations to protect the system from those of us that would abuse it.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

There are thousands of people who want to take these children because they cannot have their own. If you do not want a child, have it and put it up for adoption. At least you will be preserving a human life rather than killing one.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

The debate isn't about "should people put up unwanted babies for adoption". It's about "should abortion be banned".I agree that if people don't want their babies, they should have the choice of putting it up for adoption. But it should not be made compulsory, which is essentially what happens if you ban abortion.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Why should it not be made compulsory? Those children have as much right to live as you and I? Besides, no one loses with adoption, so why wouldn't you utilize it?
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

People who are not yet born cannot think for themselves because their brain has not developed yet. If you were to say that unborn children have rights, that would be like saying animals have rights too. After all, both minds are not complex enough to communicate with people. Therefore, saying unborn babies have rights is like saying animals have rights? Then why do we kill cows and chickens when they should choose for themselves? Parents have the rights over their unborn children because after all, they are born from their body and actions.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Yes, however, they can still be considered a human. If someone is in a coma, they can't think, so is it okay to say they shouldn't have rights?The difference between cows/chickens and a fetus is that a fetus (even if it can't think) is a human. The only difference between you and a fetus is that you've been alive for a lot longer. Also, I think you've put your argument on the wrong view, it says you think abortion should be banned.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

...because there are risks to delivery? Not to mention the 9 months of painful pregnancy you would have to go through?
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Yes it is true that abortion is immorally wrong. However, one must think about what will happen if abortion is banned. If something is banned, is it completely gone? Look at prohibition in the 20's and look at weed now. They were never gone, just made illegal. If abortion is illegal then someone who made a mistake in having sex, such as a teen, can't tell anyone about it for obvious reasons. The only person she tells is a best friend and she can't have the baby because the parents will find out so her only option is abortion. OH WAIT! Abortion is illegal so she has to go to some old lady in the trailer park or do it herself with a coat hangar, either way she will end up with a disease (that I can't remember the name). Abortion is wrong but should not be illegal.Also, I really don't want to sound mean or offensive but this probably is: Abortion will help with population control. Our world's population is increasing faster than ever. we need to keep our resources. And the main people that want abortions are usually careless people or rape victims. Most families would either be able to take care of the child or be courteous enough to put the baby up for adoption. So I guess it really all comes down to practicing safe sex and coming down harder on rapists.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

You're comparing a choice that does not necessarily affect others (drinking) with one that will necessarily affect another life (abortion). How are the two comparable? No matter how the abortion is conducted, it will invariably result in only one thing: the loss of life. The same cannot be said of alcohol."If something is banned, is it completely gone?"This is a fallacious rebuttal; murder is illegal, is it completely gone? Does it therefore follow that we should stop making it a crime?"Abortion is illegal so she has to go to some old lady in the trailer park or do it herself with a coat hangar"No, she does not have to do that. That is an option, a dangerous and illegal one, but there are other options.It's a matter of principle. If the taking of a life is, in principle, a crime then no special pleading should be allowed.The rest of your argument is an appeal to consequences, and completely ignores the principle of the matter. If our "aim" is to lower population why don't we just legalize randomly shooting people? That would be absurd.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

if you don't want to have a child, don't have sex. its as simple as that. just because you had a slip in the moment doesn't mean someone else has to lose a life. if you don't know the consequences of your actions, dont do it in the first place. its not like you will die if you don't have sex, but someone else will die if you abort. don't try to justify that taking a life is of least importance than controlling your desire to have sex.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

that is 100% my opinon too! if your not adult enought to take care of what comes along with having sex then don't think that your adult enought to have it people need to GROW UP!!
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

People should not have sex! Or at least use protection. You are basicly killing someone.If i make a mistake, does that mean I can kill you to fix it?
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Why are you responding to comments from years ago?
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

If you don't want to have a child and are going to end up giving it away, then use protection and do not let yourself get pregnant in the first place. Instead of advocating for abortion, maybe you should advocate for better use of contraceptives so you do not keep getting pregnant and acting like abortion is an easy, moral way out. You are killing a being.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

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Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Um... I think we should be taking the nine months of painful pregnancy followed by the actual birth into account.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

True, and he was providing another options for pregant women.What exacly is the valid and direct issue of compulsory adoption. Surely you must admit that it does a better job than an abortion?
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Ok, here's a very real issue of making adoption compulsory: You must make the woman carry the child to full term for somebody else to have the baby. This is while the woman may feel deeply offended/embarrassed/disadvantaged by the pregnancy, and her body is on the line!!!!
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

The women shouldn't be having unprotected sex in the first place.Rape is an entirely different subject.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

You can make unprotected sex illegal, don't make abortions illegal.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Then what happens? Unprotect sex becomes the next 'underground drug.'I'm sure you can fill in the blanks from there.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Unprotected sex is the point of creating a child.While you're at it, ask for a law to be passed that all children must die.After all, it's practically what you're asking for.Anything else is just "messing around."
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Ok, now you're being dramatic and it's not funny at all. If you're not a woman experiencing PMS then you really have no excuse, but if you are then calm down and see my point. It's really quite workable:Ok, what I mean is make "sex that results in an unwanted pregnancy" illegal. Ok, unwanted pregnancy is the key. Having sex risks pregnancy, everyone knows that, just like driving without wearing your seatbelt risks serious injury. You can risk it if you want, but when the unexpected result happens, you have a choice: You can decide if you WANT the pregnancy OR NOT. If you decide that you don't WANT the pregnancy, then the law kicks in!!!! A hefty fine is a very good deterent. You can build the cost of the fine into the cost of an abortion. This would make the cost of an abortion very very expensive. The proceeds from this could all go into funding educational programs about sex and pregnancy, counselling, etc... You can even build in a jail term for the guilty if you feel that monetary fines aren't enough.So, as with seatbelt wearing in a car, over a short period, people would all learn to do it responsibly and it will become second nature and not have to be such an issue. Don't make it illegal, regulate it and everyone's a winner.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

FINING UNPROTECTED SEX?So what? Do you plan on having the Government check every couple for a condom in the middle of it all?That is a serious invasion of privacy.The system would not work. Simple.The concept of jail-time is just ridiculous, surely you must even see how ridiculous that actually is.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Does the Government check all moving cars for a seatbelt wearer? YOU are ridiculous.A "serious invasion of privacy", you say? But forcing people to do something with their body is not??? Contradiction! So, my suggestion is not ridiculous. YOU are ridiculous. YOUR arguments are ridiculous. YOU should go live in a country run by dictatorship. YOU should deal with YOUR unwanted pregnancies in YOUR OWN way.Leave it alone. Abortion should not be banned.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Reality check required? Is your statement an argument or a personal attack?Clearly you are indeed a fool if you believe that I am suggesting an imediate termination and outlaw on abortion. I, as many do, believe that we can work towards the issue, rather than circling it as people like you do.Who do you defend with your outrageous suggestions? The mother? From what exactly?The point of it all is to prevent an unwanted prenancy, we can agree on that.You suggest terminating part of the problem, I suggest that we create a solution to the entire situation.And, yeah, that reality check I mentioned, it may very well be overdue.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

I'm attacking your illogical mind and your silly arguments! If that's a personal attack, then I guess that's what it is!Ok so you're not calling for abortion to be outlawed, why then are you arguing for their side? You should argue for our side or at the very least choose the "it depends" option! I know you want to educate (as do I), so educate, and if that works out well in the future you won't find it necessary to ban abortion!I'm not defending anybody with my outrageous suggestions. It's a solution to a problem, which is unwanted pregnancies. It has more educational value then a ban on abortion. Hit people where the pocket is and help them avoid a mistake in the future, don't make them pay for their mistake by forcing them to bring up a child. Forcing someone to keep a pet against their will can have dire consequences for the animal concerned, you get my point?The only reality check here is that a ban on abortion simply doesn't work. It doesn't work to educate, it simply makes it ... what did you call it? ah yes... "the next underground drug".
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: After education

Yeah, and I make "silly arguments."Illegal abortions, wow, I never would have guessed...Oh, sorry, you're serious? Seriously in need of that reality check, perhaps....!Apart from that, perhaps, you have a point. Fine, this argument can be defined as "after education", as in: "after education has come into play with success."I am now abandoning this debate, my reasons have already been stated.Have fun with, whatever, I'll be doing my usual, I'm sure you already understand.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Goodbye.And apply some energy to thinking about how to make your arguments more understandable and persuasive logically.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

The debate is not about whether or not abortion is sometimes the best course of action, but whether or not a government agency has the right to make laws mandating that a pregnant woman carry a child to term. There are various good reasons for terminating a pregnancy. There are even more reasons a woman may choose to abort that are not good. Is it the business of the state to intervene and evaluate the reasoning process that the woman and her doctor apply when making these tough decisions? I don't think so.Allowing government entities to have the final irrevocable say in such situations sets a precedent that puts the government in a too high of a position relative to our fundamental liberties.What can we do short of legislation to significantly reduce the number of abortions performed when there are better options? People like me who abhor abortion need to focus on putting the alternatives front and center.