Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Pay to Live

Sure everything has a price presently.Every scarce resource does, and will always have a price, either in money, time, effort, etc. Monetary price is just the most efficient way to determine profit, and to communicate demand.but the present system is not effective at all; on paper it is one thing but in reality it is something entirely different.If by "the present system" you mean "using a medium of exchange", or even "trading resources" then "the present system" has allowed man to advance beyond the hunter-gatherer stage. I would call that pretty darned effective.The most efficient way is without having a price on anything,I notice that you STILL have yet to describe the mechanisms by which this system would work, other than the assertion that it would just happen, because it would need to be that way.since you clearly lack the will and desire, and probably the capacity, to think on that level I'm not gonna explain it all again,Of course, you aren't going to explain it again, that would require you explaining it in the first place, which you haven't.after all, the point is to use your own mind, objectively and rationally, not simply say this and that without first thinking things through.I would encourage you to take your own advice. The only form that matters is derived with survival and advancement of us all in mind, not based on something as idiotic as money. Right now almost everyone only thinks about money, it's basically what they live for - money.You didn't answer my question. WHO decides what form that "progress" should take? You only told me what form YOU believe. Should it be YOU who decides, for the rest of us, what "progress" is? Survival and advancement... Trade and profit took us from pooping in the bushes, to supercomputers.Seriously, wtf are you going about?If no one produces anything, if no one works for our continuance, then, even presently, everything would fall apart.So long as people produce for their own benefit and trade for that which they cannot produce, the system works and has worked since man began to trade. "It is not from the benevolence of the butcher, the brewer, or the baker that we expect our dinner, but from their regard to their own interest." -Adam SmithAnd yours are?I have asserted that the price system, made more efficient by a medium of exchange, within a free market, is a communication system whereby the demands of consumers are made known to producers; that this communication enables producers to reduce the waste of scarce resources, by only using those resources necessary to fill those demands.In contrast, you have asserted that money and even trade are unnecessary, that people will just produce, and consume as needed. You have offered no evidence, logical or empirical, to demonstrate that the producers of goods will be able to ascertain the needs of the consumers, other than to posit that they will do so, because they do so at present. This is the equivalent of me asking how astronauts will breathe in space, and you explaining that they will breathe in space, because they breathe on the earth. Just as air is what makes breathing possible, the price system is what makes the knowledge of consumer demand possible. If you have a different way to communicate that information, you have yet to explain how it would work. I invite you to do so now.