Debate: Creationism vs. Evolutionism
Side: creationism

"So how is it fair that I roast in Hell for all eternity?"Well, look at it this way: how is it fair that man rejected God over and over again even after all that He had done for them? He even sent His only Son who was rejected, spat on and crucified. Regardless of whether you believe that or not, you asked why its fair that you burn in hell, so that may not seem fair to you but you do have a choice. "Even less fair, what about the millions of people in the world who won't ever even be exposed to the Bible."Well, since you are speaking of the bible and what we are told, I assume you are wanting scriptural evidence to answer the questions you ask about those who have not heard the gospel. We are told in Romans 1:20 that "For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse." Paul is telling us that God has clearly revealed Himself in nature to us. Another thing you have to consider is that God is fair (although you may not believe this, I am quoting the bible to answer your question on whether man will go to hell if he has not heard the gospel).“Some of them might be fully able to accept it with ease”Ahh, this is an excuse that many atheists I have met use. It is not a question about whether it is easy for us; we already know that being a Christian can be very difficult at times; but that is what prayer and faith is for. We believe and pray that our faith is made stronger by Him who created us. Christianity is not expected to be an easy ride – by no means.“and will be sitting next to me in Hell”I don’t think one will be able to “sit” in Hell; the fire would cause too much pain for one to be able to lounge back in a chair.“I should brush up on my foreign language skills, I suppose”Nor do I believe one will have the strength to speak; I rather believe it will be yells and anguished screams. The way atheists speak about hell is rather interesting, for, as they do not believe in it, they speak of it as if it’s a small fire similar to a fireplace we have in our living rooms. “But there are plenty of other religions where people are encouraged to give up such lifestyles”We were speaking in relation to why atheists do not believe in Christianity, not why Muslims, Jews or Buddhists do not believe in it. Besides, even if we were to throw in a couple other religions such as Jews or Muslims, they have different rewards at the end of their lives don’t they? In addition, Jews do not generally accept Jesus Christ as it is He that the Jews (at the time of His crucifixion) crucified, therefore that would most likely be a main reason why Jews would not accept the word of God. But that is a whole other debate that would extend our posts ridiculously but we could surely debate that after this if you so wish.“So why doesn't every Buddhist who is already compliant towards this lifestyle transfer over to Christianity upon exposure to it?”Again, there are countless answers and I do not know every one of them. Every man has his own reason for not believing in God, just like every man has his own reason for believing in whatever he does or does not believe in. To round up all the possible answers and slot them in here would take forever and a day.“but many atheists don't go through a "blame God" stage. They instead go through a "well, that falsifies that hypothesis" stage”More than one atheist (that I have met) was once a Christian, and when he (I am thinking of one in particular) became an atheist, he was furious at God for the amount of time he’d “wasted” on his knees praying to Him. Granted, that sentence does not make sense to many as an atheist cannot be furious at God as atheists believe there is no God, but he was very confused and angry at that point, which is the “stage of blaming God” I am referring to. Now, he is as atheist as atheists get.“Just as their are different types of Christians, there are different types of atheists. We each got to this point through our own reasoning and experiences. Most of the non-believers on the site seem to just want Christians to provide rational proof for God's existence”I understand, and when it is their (the atheists) turn to provide evidence, they provide link after link, study after study that provides stories, diagrams and graphs yet lacks to provide the raw data that is evidence for the whole supposition. It is all very well sending me a study or a picture, but without the real evidence, it is irrelevant. “The earth was created x amount of time ago and blah blah blah” is not evidence, it’s a false statement without evidence.“I think it is best for both of us to keep our points within the debate we are having, as both of us have time limitations. If a point isn't worth your time to cut-and-paste, it probably isn't worth my time to track down”I understand and completely agree with you.“Not in our debate here. As far as your debate with Nautilus, I didn't see any such thing until the last response you posted to him before I read this. And that was after I made my response to you.”I was not just referring to my time here (which is all of about 3 days). I was referring to all of the debates I have participated in in general.“A bunch of studies (which have been closely inspected, evaluated and cross-referenced) > than a very old collection of fables with no references to external sources. It's called "thorough research”Huh, “thorough research” that fails to provide the evidence that supports the whole study… “Evaluated, closely inspected and cross referenced” by more scientists who fail to support their own theories with the raw data that is expected but not presented… I wonder why that is? It certainly isn't because "most people wouldn't take the time to read anyway"; I know I would read it! “The funny thing is, modern evolutionary study is only mildly reliant on fossils at this point. I will admit that they get the most press. Many people are fascinated by dinosaurs, fossils are relatively simple, and for a layman to understand the molecular stuff going on requires a vast amount of explanation in biology and chemistry that most people wouldn't take the time to read anyway. But most informed evolutionists who know a few things about science are aware that the really good information is genetic. The fossils set the stage, but we couldn't properly figure out the mechanism that actually makes evolution work until we started being able to look at the DNA and make comparisons between different populations and generations. Unfortunately, this kind of stuff flies over the heads of most people who haven't studied biology, genetics and organic chemistry, so the articles on this stuff doesn't get as much face-time with the general public”An explanation which interpreted means: excuses, excuses, excuses.“You may start whenever you are ready”Ok, now is as good a time as any I suppose. Firstly, I ask that perhaps we narrow our debate down to one specific argument so that the posts are not so long and we can focus on one argument at a time. So, for example, our first argument can be evolution: you are for it, I am against it, and in doing this we throw other debates out the window for the time being. Are you in agreement with this?“I'm looking forward to it, but, I don't see any links here”Stupid me, I forgot to include it (I was exhausted so forgive my dumb mistake). Here it is: http://ldolphin.org/wmwilliams.html. It is a link I sent to another debater who also was in agreement with evolution.“LOL. "Holy crap" isn't atheist slang, its just American, and older than I am.”I am aware of it being an old term, but when an atheist types this to a Christian during a debate, you can see the pun, no?“So why would he say it? I don't have enough information to answer that, and I don't believe you do either.”On the contrary, there are many reasons why he said it and perhaps you don’t have enough information but I however do. Which piece of information do you want? The fact that God wrote it using his servant? Or are you wanting a more ‘lets get inside Moses’ head’ answer, because unfortunately I don’t have him here with me so I can’t analyze what he was thinking at the time. Perhaps you want a logical answer, so here is one of many: Moses saw his fellow man, and saw that he was upright. But, since he was around long after Adam and Eve were created, he wondered ‘I wonder if they were apes and we evolved from them’ but this did not go hand in hand with what God was telling him to write so instead of creating an “invention” (Ecclesiastes 7:29) he wrote what God (the Creator of every living thing) told him He truly created; man (and we know that God did not lie to Moses as He cannot lie (Titus 1:2).P.S. - one minute you say you don't want scriptural evidence and that I should step ouside of the bible then you are asking me questions about hell and what Moses wrote, which, lets face it, the answers are in the bible. So, lets pick our one single debate and stick to it without changing the rules to fit our arguments.