azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

Evidence must be categorised in stages.We were merely categorising evidence in stages.Evidence needs to be categorised, remember.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

First, it does not need to be categorized in every situation. This is a situation where there is no need two.Second, why are you still trying to avoid the actual topic?
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

Why does it not need to be categories in every situation?And I am incapable of avoiding the topic.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

Why does it not need to be categories in every situation?Because there is no reason or need for it to be categorized in a non-formal setting. You haven't provided a single argument as to why it would, after all.And I am incapable of avoiding the topic.No, you seem to be incapable of staying on the topic.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

Maybe you would be more comfortable if you hugged or kissed one? Or maybe simply you need to wear comfy shoes more often - maybe get those Dr Scholls gel inserts.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

So I wrote a reply that got WAY too long, here's the tl;dr version:You aren't a bad person for feeling uncomfortable, but you would be a bad person if you allowed this discomfort to guide your actions. It's likely that the lack of comfort you feel is due to not having spent much time in the LGBT community (through no fault of your own; there just wasn't any reason for you to).Personally, I'd strongly advise you to work on the discomfort. Get involved in the LGBT community, or just meet a few queer people and become friends with them. That discomfort you feel will fade quite quickly when your subconscious (kinda primal "my-tribe-is-better-than-your-tribe") mind grows to accept them.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

Here's a much, much longer way of explaining that same point:Well I'm not gonna say that you should die in a fire, but it also isn't okay to just let yourself continue feeling that discomfort.Please don't get aggressive here, just let me explain my stance on this, and allow me a brief anecdote.So, I'm figuring that, if you feel uncomfortable around gay people, you probably haven't spent much time around them. Not through any fault of your own - it's just statistically more likely for a random person to be straight, so the chances of you having spent a lot of time in the LGBT community are slim. In much the same way, I didn't spend a lot of time around black people growing up. I was born in, like, a blazingly white country town. I'd certainly never have described myself as racist, and my close family/friends were all very open minded people, but I simply did not know many black people. When I was about 15 and (as most fifteen year old boys do) was thinking about women I found attractive, I realised that they were all white.At first this didn't concern me - so I was more attracted to white women? So what? Everyone can have a preference, surely. But then I realised that it was more than that; I simply wasn't attracted to black women at all, purely because of their skin colour. That kind of struck me as a bit odd. I was quite confident I wasn't a racist man, but this niggling discomfort I felt about black people (the reason I didn't find them attractive) couldn't be ignored.I didn't exactly have a black community to start socialising with, so I opted to simply go through stock image sites of various black people, and look up black models. Watch films with more black people in it, spend more time with the few black people I knew. Eventually, over time, I found the discomfort faded.So, in summary, you're not a bad person for feeling uncomfortable around gay people as long as the reason is "I haven't known many personally", and not "They are satan-spawn".Sorry about such a long post; it's a pretty complicated message.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

In other words if you can't phsyically block it then you'll mentally block it.In other words you're so certain of the inviolability of our beliefs you'll sit with your hands over both ears and your eyes shut and keep yelling blah blah blah blah I can't HEAR you...That's very persuasive arguing on a debate website.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

I was talking to admiral bacon there, He has been quite extremely foul mouthed with perverted vulgarities, showing his mental weakness and emotional insecurity, using profanities which are a weak mind trying to express itself forcefully, a bully tactic. If people can't speak civilly, I'm not going to tire of reading their garbage and not respond to them in any conversational way...I'll just preach Hell fire and brimstone they need to be saved from, so maybe they will pause long enough to hear the truth and get saved from Hell....and maybe you will too.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

There is no uglier cuss or insult than asserting that someone else is destined to hell while you yourself is somehow guaranteed heaven. Being a wise@ss is different from just being a mean@ss.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

If I can see by your own words that you are defying God, and the Savior it not in you and you are not in Him, I know you are on your way to Hell and I'm doing you a kindness trying to get you to see the danger you are in.Oh boy, now you are starting to cuss like all the other haters. Ok, punk, cuss away. I don't think I need to repeat myself with you anyways.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

This stuff from you is why I call you a little punk. In the first place, I was not talking to you, and in the second place you have a chip on your shoulder and all you want to do is insult me because you see I am strong in faith and you are a jealous little punk trying to knock me down so you feel like you are better than me.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

Nope, you call me a little punk because you think you are better than everyone else. After all, you're the only on in here already guaranteed to go to heaven. No, actually you're a farce. You crown yourself, you denigrate everyone else, and then you block anyone who calls you out for it.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

I call you little punk because all you do is try to insult me while I'm only telling you the truth......and you act like you are triumphing by refusing to admit fault......punky stuff.There are at least three others here who will testify that they know the Savior personally, they know their sins are forgiven and Heaven is there home and they will be in Heaven with Jesus forever the moment their time in this world is finalized."Call me out on it"? That's punk talk.........you're just trying to pick a fight. You can't win with rationale and logic, so you resort to insults and acting like you called me out and you were too strong so I cowered........that's bully punk stuff and it's trashy, and it's why I call you a little punk. You're just a kid to me, an inexperienced kid with a puffed up ego, portraying yourself as a punk implying that you portend my embarrassment when up against your pride. Punks fall, pride goes before a fall....your're just being a punk with meSin denigrates you, son. Your own pride denigrates you by deceiving you into thinking you are more than what you are, and then you get knocked down to Earth and have to swallow your pride and/or eat crow. Don't blame me when I tell you the truth and you feel "denigrated". If you weren't so stinking proud you would admit to the truth.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

How do you know that homosexuality isn't unnatural?Can you provide a reason for it please?
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

Probably because it exists in nature.Just a guess.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

It isn't natural in nature.And it doesn't quite exist in nature.People just have misunderstood what the animals were doing.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

It isn't natural in nature.So you are saying that species that have no influence from humanity participating in behavior (without being forced or manipulated) is unnatural.....What? What the heck is your definition of natural within the realm of biology?People just have misunderstood what the animals were doing.Interesting. So biologists who have studied live long monogamous same-sex parings are misunderstanding it, but you understand it perfectly?
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

Mankind interacting with a dog is natural if done in an ordinary way, like a friend.If it is influenced with external technical knowledge that has been developed by man and didn't exist at the start, then it is unnatural.Unnatural means that something didn't occur already from nature at the start and that it was developed artificially much later.Homosexuality is artificial. Which is merely the opposite of natural.Got it?And please point out which biologists there are that exist who happen to believe they have absolute evidence to prove homosexuality occurs naturally in nature?None at all.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

Homosexuality is artificial. Which is merely the opposite of natural.Artificial: made or produced by human beings rather than occurring naturallyThe thing is, life-long monogamous same-sex pairings have been observed in nature. That means that, by definition, homosexuality is not inherently artificial and does, objectively, exist in nature.'And please point out which biologists there are that exist who happen to believe they have absolute evidence to prove homosexuality occurs naturally in nature?None at all.You have this incredibly bad habbit of declaring there to be a lack of evidence for things you clearly have no researched. Your assumption of omniscience is quite the foible, and you should work on it.Instead of going with a comprehensive list, I'll give you two examples and, if you recognize them, we can work from there.http://eol.org/pages/1178535/detailshttp://eol.org/pages/311906/details
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

Where do those two articles say anything to do with animals being gay?All those articles seem to say is supposed "facts" about albatrosses or domestic sheep.They say nothing about sheep or albatrosses being gay, which is the most fallible fact ever and despite those articles fallibility, they say nothing at all to do with albatrosses being gay.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

Where do those two articles say anything to do with animals being gay?All those articles seem to say is supposed "facts" about albatrosses or domestic sheep.Indeed, and homosexuality is a fact about those species. You clearly didn't actually read them, or do so much as a ctrl+f."Occasionally the birds form homosexual pairs consisting of two females.""A minority of rams display a preference for homosexuality (8% on average)["I do enjoy how you declared it fallible without seeing the evidence in question. You have clearly decided that the truth is what you want it to be, and have shut your mind to evidence that contradicts it.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

It is good of you to quote the articles, as I struggled to find those bits within those articles, however, you have been helpful as I now have managed to find those quotes within those articles.However, was that site written by a biologist?What right does that site have to say that it is credible? I don't believe it has any.Did it prove that occasionally birds pair to form pairs of two girl birds?Did it offer any evidence to suggest that some rams are homosexuals?The article within itself needs some good solid evidence!
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

And yet again you make claims without doing even the most cursory of research.The sheep quote is attributed to biologist Dr. Charles Roselli, with a citation in the sentence itself.The albatross quote is attributed to biologists Lindsy C Young, Brenda J Zaun and Eric A VanderWerf, all of the U.K.'s Royal Society, again with a citation included.Which means it is credible, and it does offer evidence.Why do you insist on regretting all evidence that contradicts your preconceptions, and why do you refuse to do research before making claims?
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

Thank you for pointing out those bits of the article.You have been very helpful.I am like the master and you are my trusty dog who sniffs out all the weed and drugs!You have sniffed out that very bad drug called Dr. Charles Roselli, a toxic man who is very poisonous.Anyway, what evidence does Dr. Charles Roselli have to prove that albatrosses and sheep can be gay?I need to see his evidence!
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

You could, if you followed any of the citations I provided. I am done walking you through each step. If you actually want to see his evidence, you have the links provided for you already.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

Why can't I cite articles?It is due to the fact that everything is known on the subconscious level, as previously stated.And I have indeed already done my research.Look, the only way we can prove that my "subconscious level theory" is correct is by merely allowing me to prove to you that indeed animals aren't gay and when you look at the evidence, you indeed will know what I mean by the subconscious theory!
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

There's no point debating you, clearly.You ignore all evidence provided to you, and provide none yourself.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

In what ways are animals minds similar to and in what ways are animals minds different to human beings?I need to answer some key questions, before I start offering some evidence, ok?I will start to offer evidence, it has just taken my time to categories the evidence, that's al.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

In what ways are animals minds similar to and in what ways are animals minds different to human beings?We are animals.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

Why do you believe that we are animals?I disagree.You need to provide evidence for the belief that we are animals.I'm certainly not.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

Because we belong to kingdom animalia. This is like 5th grade biology here buddy.http://anthro.palomar.edu/animal/table_humans.htm
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

Kingdoms, species and genus are just labels.Geniuses, kingly men and special people like me are not just labels.Get it right, mate.Can you prove that a kingdom is not just a label and the same with genus and species?
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

"It isn't natural in nature" oh blizzardbird you crack me up, what a great joke. Seriously though, TrumpsHair answered perfectly, the LGBT lifestyle is perfectly natural. It's been around for centuries, it's observed in nature, and it's Safe, Sane and Consensual. Besides, I'd have thought that if you were going to use the "it's unnatural" defense then you'd also be rather hedonistic (seeing as sex is about as natural as it gets, so presumably you'd be out giving in to your sexual urges at every opportunity).
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

One quick exception: The Transgender lifestyle, to my knowledge, isn't natural.That said, I see absolutely no reason whats so ever why that should matter in any way. Never understood the whole "unnatural" argument, especially when it is argued while someone sits in a house, on a chair, over the internet via their computer, all of which are unnatural. Clearly the people who argue it don't think that something is bad just because it is unnatural (why would it be?) so this argument has always seemed...frivolous, to say the least.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

Good point TrumpsHair, but I'm a bit hesitant to call the trans lifestyle "unnatural", purely for semantic reasons. I mean, like you said, building houses/using the internet/cooking meat, these are all "unnatural" things because we've made intelligent decisions and designed/created them. Being trans though, that isn't created or produced by humanity; it's just a uniquely human natural trait. Kinda like how, for some weird reason, cows everywhere tend to face North or South when eating. That's a uniquely cow thing to do, but isn't "unnatural".Of course, this is all semantical, and the line between natural and unnatural can be arbitrarily drawn anywhere, but I personally figure that if the point itself is arbitrary then it makes more sense to just leave it at "Trans is natural", because that sounds far nicer.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

Good point TrumpsHair, but I'm a bit hesitant to call the trans lifestyle "unnatural", purely for semantic reasons. I mean, like you said, building houses/using the internet/cooking meat, these are all "unnatural" things because we've made intelligent decisions and designed/created them. Being trans though, that isn't created or produced by humanity; it's just a uniquely human natural trait. Kinda like how, for some weird reason, cows everywhere tend to face North or South when eating. That's a uniquely cow thing to do, but isn't "unnatural".True, we are using different concepts of "natural". I was more thinking "existing within the natural world", rather than "artificially created", though I think that both are completely acceptable (albeit philosophically distinct) concepts of "natural". But as you said, none of it truly matters at all, because they aren't doing a god damn thing that should make it anyone's business but their own. I can appreciate you leaning towards the side of being "nicer" but I tend to lend towards some foolish idealistic stance more often than not, and to me, I find our concept of "natural" sounding nicer to be indicative of a greater problem that I, for reasons that serve no productive purpose, shall not stand for.Because that clearly makes all the difference :P
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

The topic of this discussion is whether homosexuality is natural or unnatural, not whether it is a bad or a good thing.You are twisting the topic to make what I say appear pointless and irrelevant.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

Actually the topic of this discussion was whether it is wrong or not to feel uncomfortable around homosexuals. To that extent, whether it is natural or unnatural really is irrelevant.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

Debates go in stages, in this stage the topic of discussion is whether homosexuality is natural or not.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

If a debate branches onto such a complicated, heated topic as that then I'd say it's polite to spin off a new forum for it.http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/ Sex andSexualityThat's what I've done right here. Please do comment, I'm interested to discuss this further, maybe you can convince me of some mistake I've made
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

Again, no. The debate is "I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays".You changed the subject and went off topic. You have no authority to determine what is or is not a "stage" of the debate when it is, in fact, off topic.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

Debates do go in stages to merely categorise evidence.That is what we were doing.Debates go in stages.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

No, we aren't. You are going off topic, and others are trying to put you back on topic, and offering you a different debate that is along the topic you are trying to debate.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

Why do you believe that this debate is not going in stages?The first stage of this argument HAS to be whether homosexuality is natural, otherwise nothing else in this debate will ever make sense.And btw, that is what we were talking about already.Just my angle on things.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

Well then blizzardbird how about we discuss it on the other forum you're already posting on, and use whatever conclusion we reach there as supporting evidence on this forum.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

Good idea!Excelllent!I am very proud.Interesting, as necessary.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

The first stage of this argument HAS to be whether homosexuality is natural, otherwise nothing else in this debate will ever make sense.No, not at all. Whether it is natural or not has absolutely no bearing on the actual debate topic (whether it is okay or not to feel uncomfortable around homosexuals).
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

It, does, you have to trust me.Anyway, yes, I think we both agree that this stage has been completed.I have looked into the Hawaii observations of albatrosses on Oahu and the domestic sheep gene thing and I have come to the conclusion that this evidence can't be proven or disproven directly.We have completed the first stage:Now we are onto the next stage:Stage 2: What are the differences between the minds of animals and them minds of humans from your point of view?
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

I have been given no reason to trust you. You have not demonstrated any credibility, just crazy claims and a refusal to accept evidence that disproves your preconceptions.I'm done discussing this topic with you.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

I don't think that is true at all.I don't believe your claim that you have had enough.Of course you are willing to debate the topic, you are just a little tired, for the moment.I will provide evidence, it may be a bit of a bumpy ride, but it'll be a short one.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: die in a fire

Then provide said evidence.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

OK.Can you prove that a kingdom like Animalia is not just a label?How does it prove we really are animals?Remember, it's only a label.OK, no need to panic.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

Instead of repeating this every time, I will just respond to this one because it seems the most obviously ridiculous post of the recent batch you've sent to me:I am done responding to you, for now at least. It is legitimately impossible to hold an actual conversation with you, for reasons that should be abundantly clear to anyone reading even just this post of yours, let alone full conversations.So I'm off. Have fun.
Debate: I'm straight and I feel uncomfortable around gays
Side: it's ok

OK, I am a man united fan.Therefore my species is Man-U.And did you know that Obama is a democrat?Therefore his genus is democrat.Interesting stuff, really.