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Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: Yes

I think you are right to point out the fact that the study is likely to overestimate the annual numbers of defensive gun uses (DGU). While Kleck and Gertz did perform preliminary work that estimated the telescoping effect to be small, other studies such as that done by the NVCS estimate telescoping for DGU at a rate of around 30% (with one study even estimating 50%). I personally would conclude, therefore, that the number of DGUs is somewhere between 108k and 2 million, with the number unlikely to reside in the extreme bounds due to flaws in both methodologies.This reminds me of the differences in counting casualties in Iraq a decade ago. Lancet and ORB surveys overestimated the numbers while Iraq body count underestimated them due to differences in methodology.
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: Yes

Thanks for that Winston, your final point is well made and noted .........This reminds me of the differences in counting casualties in Iraq a decade ago. Lancet and ORB surveys overestimated the numbers while Iraq body count underestimate
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: No

The way the constitution is written, for the people to give up the right to bear arms would be to consent to slavery.If not consenting to slavery makes someone selfish, I don't think that anyone pointing the finger is any less guilty.
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: Yes

So citizens of countries that do not allow their citizens to bear arms are slaves ?You claim to be a “ Christian “ yet seem to take pride in the fact that 30,000 Americans die from guns every year in the U S and 70, 000 other Americans are injured by guns carried by idiots like you but hey you’re not a ..... slave
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: Yes

Guns for those who want them.No guns for those who don't want them.It is very simple. It sorts itself out. You look at these numbers. These numbers are irrelevant to me. I would rather call for personal and moral responsibility than to give another excuse for the pirates to take more loot.
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: No

So guns for criminals if they want them ?Wonder if Jesus would have wanted a gun ?It’s also very telling that that 30, 000 deaths are “ irrelevant “ to you but you are after all a Christian aren’t you ?😳😳😳
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: Yes

People who go around making asses of themselves with guns get dealt with real quick in a civilized gun toting society.It's the price of freedom. People die every day. So will you. Better come to terms with it.See, we need guns so that pedophiles like you don't come to take our children away.
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: No

Civilised society 😂😂😂 30,000 gun deaths a year are a mark of a civilised society ?So that’s it people die every day which includes the 1000s of innocents who die from guns..... but hey the American Christian says people die every day so it’s all good
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: Yes

About 3,000 gun deaths occur in Texas a year.About 2,000 of which are suicides.The population of Texas is about 28,000,000You do realize what that means? It means it isn't really a problem here.The population of The United States is about 325,000,000.Even if we use your number of "30,000 gun deaths", it seems pretty clear to me that there isn't a gun violence problem.Notice where the gun violence is? Places like Chicago where they have effectively banned guns. The government might as well be waging war on the population.You don't know what is going on here, quit pretending to. Why don't you pay more attention to what is going on in your own country?Oh, that's right... Because The United States is important. No one here cares about what is going on in your country.Maybe we should ban automobiles... How about cutlery? How about anything that can potentially hurt someone? The American spirit is firmly rooted in the law of liberty. The people who are trying to ban guns are doing so because they are trying to overthrow the government and enslave the people. It's got nothing to do with keeping people safe. You fall for them because if you fall for the whole "God does not exist" thing, you'll fall for damn near everything.Keep on fallin'. It would be better if you allowed Jesus to pick you back up and carry you.Christianity and big government are incompatible. Scripture speaks of the law of liberty. It is not Christian to desire a theocracy or any big government in general. The Christian faith is not in government.The American spirit is very compatible with Christianity. The first amendment practically describes everything a church congregation does. You don't know what you are talking about. It's the truth.
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: No

Oh shut up you moron with your babble I’ve heard all this’s bullshit before 30, 000 gun deaths isn’t a problem or mass murders at the local college or school are not a problem and of course accidents involving children are no problem as it’s your “ right “ to carry a piece The U S is not “ important “ but gun deaths worldwide are , the U S thanks to Trump is a laughing stock and the only people who fail to see this are idiots like you . So in your retarded skull “ spoon “ deaths are a cause for concern .It’s hilarious a two faced knob sucker like you seems to think Jesus if around would be carrying a piece ,your knob sucking psalm singing ( in her sleep 😂) wife most likely agrees with you
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: No

All I hear from you is"I know everything, you're wrong, everyone is dumb except me and those who agree with me. I'm going to call you names now, tell you what you believe, and insult your wife."I'm pretty sure that isn't a legitimate argument.As usual, you are a shining example of impotence.
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: Yes

I know a lot but not everything , I’m right you are indeed wrong , and you never stop telling people they are wrong you hypocrite What I state about your wife is factual your denial is amusing You never had a “ legitimate “ argument to start As usual you’re a shining example of a Christian hypocrite , Jesus supports the carrying of a gun come on you hypocrite surely even a prick like you doesn’t believe that ? 🤪
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: No

There are a lot of factual things that I could say that have nothing to do with the debate.Like, for example, that you are obviously a bigot and your words reveal this to be the case.You aren't standing on anything.
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: Yes

We both know that’s not true You of course will accuse me of what you’re most guilty of as in bigotry I’m standing on your deafeated carcass
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: No

I'm such a bigot that I volunteer to serve, protect, and show love to those who are fooled and tormented by Satan. Yes, people who are very much anti-Christian, like you, I serve these people on a daily basis. I do it because of the love of Christ that strengthens me, I do not make money from it.If you actually knew me, you couldn't ever call me a bigot. If you were to call me a bigot here in the real world, you would get laughter from probably a more diverse group of people than you yourself would ever be willing to associate with.That is your problem. You speak as if you have knowledge when you really don't.Why do I call you a bigot? Because it is obvious that you have it out for Christians. You hate God. In fact, the hatred you have clearly effects your ability to debate effectively. As the scriptures so rightly say, "A good man out of the good treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouth speaketh."It doesn't have to be like this. It might be good for your spiritual development to practice charity.What would really be better for you is if you turned from your wicked ways and made peace with God.
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: Yes

Now you’re an egotist and boasting about it , you do it because it makes you feel all superior and Christian, you’re a hypocrite You keep boasting about how great you are I don’t believe it , I don’t hate Christians I’m married to one you idiot and my family are Christians you see over here we believe in the live and let live ethos , also how can I hate what I don’t believe in you fool ?Do you hate Zeus , Odin and Thor ?I didn’t even read your horsehit from the book of bile and why do you preach about charity and you don’t even know what the term means you idiot, boasting about doing good is the opposite of charity and you opened up with ..... boasting of how charitable you are , maybe you should read what Jesus actually said about charity it’s in the book you’re never read also try and find the part where Jesus mentions that his followers should always carry a weapon 🤔You’re a two faced hypocrite mate
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: No

Yes, I am aware that charity doesn't puff itself up. I am not trying to puff myself up. I must become less so that Christ becomes more. You always want to make it about me, but I know what I am. I am a sinner, and one who does not deny this.So why do you attack me? It would be better for you if you turned to Christ.
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: Yes

You didn’t do a very good job of someone not puffing themselves up did you ?I never want to make it about you but you keep telling me and others how saintly and great you are why’s that ?The truth cannot be deemed an attack unless one denies what one is as in you I don’t know anyone called Christ I have a mechanic called Chris but I don’t see myself turning to him
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: No

See, I am not vaunting myself up to those who I am performing charity for. You don't perform charity for someone and then say, "I am doing this out of charity". That is a slap to the face.Jesus was persecuted for healing people on the sabbath, which was unlawful. How is that any different from what it is you are doing right now? You are persecuting Jesus, not me.I do not claim to be saintly and great. It is obvious that you are a bigot. Being the arbitrary person you are, you try to turn it around on me and call me a bigot. I am clearly not a bigot. You clearly are. If you want to dispute this, I don't really care to argue, because I believe that the things you say make it very clear what the truth of the matter is. I don't need to add anything to that.You are not a Christian, but you appeal to my Christianity in a debate about the right to bear arms. You don't debate honestly. You are a troll, and for the sake of trolling... Which is simply trouble making.Besides that, you are a loser. That is what it means to deny The Supreme and Ultimate Reality. It means you lost from the get go. If you do not believe in God, it can be understood that the things you say come from a place of deception. So what? Are you going to insult me, my wife, my faith, my country? What else are you going to attack?Bout anything except for whatever subject it is we are actually talking about.You truly are pathetic.As I said from the get go, the way the constitution is written, to give up the right to bear arms is to consent to slavery. That is why the right to bear arms is important. It has very little to do with actually owning arms. I don't have to have arms to believe that we have the right to bear them.
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: Yes

There ya go again comparing yourself to Jesus you just cannot help it can you as you’re a puffed up egotist aren’t you ?Actually you do claim to be saintly and calling me what you are a bigot is sadly typical of a true bigot like you ; you’re certainly not a Christian as you believe Jesus would have carried a gun that makes you yet again a liar and a hypocrite doesn’t it ? Jesus approved of slavery you idiot read your Bible only a fucked in the head American Bible thumper believes Jesus would approve of carrying a weapon , if you claim to believe in god you are coming from a place of deception and denying reality ; you have embraced absurdity again
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: No

The point is not that Jesus would carry a gun, the point is that relinquishing the RIGHT to bear arms is consent to slavery.It is not necessary to exercise the right to bear arms to still have that right.If a Christian or anyone else for that matter is morally against owning firearms, they are welcome to NOT own them. No one is stopping them. See, I have the right to have a gun. I don't have to own a gun to have the right to have a gun. If I don't have a gun, I can always get one if I wanted one. If I don't ever want a gun, I don't ever have to get one. You see, if the people give up the right to bear arms, it isn't going to make firearms disappear. Even if all guns were destroyed, along with production... There would still be black market production. Even if it were possible to completely stamp that out, the government itself would still have firearms. Bureaucracies and institutions in general are very susceptible to corruption. It is unavoidable, no matter what measures are taken.The American spirit is firmly rooted in the law of liberty, and it is acknowledged in the bill of rights that it is necessary for the security of a free state that the right of the people to bear arms is not infringed. A well regulated militia does not mean a well trained military, it means that the military is answerable to the people on a greater level than whatever institution claims to be the state. This spirit is enshrined in the constitution.The people who are working to overthrow the law of the land intend to rob and enslave the population. They are thieves who come to kill, steal, and destroy. It is in their interests to strip power away from the people. So no, you say what you say not because you have the interests of Americans or humanity in general in mind. At best, you don't understand the debate because you have bad information. At worst, you understand the debate and hope for the enslavement of America.So what? The point is, there is another side to this debate that is far more reasonable than you give it credit for.
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: Yes

The point is would Jesus carry a gun you idiot as you claim to be a Christian yet have no problem hypocritically believing Jesus would approve , how do you even call yourself a Christian ?The rest of your ridiculous rant is just another trigger happy yank who thinks 30,000 gun deaths and 70,000 injuries yearly are a fair price for him to keep packing as you put it
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: Yes

If anything, your claim that a few people must ruin it for everyone has scarier implications. If the government were to enforce disarmament on the population, there would be a whole lot more than 100,000 casualties.Better believe it.
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: No

No there wouldn’t you idiot most law-abiding Americans would shoot their collective mouths off and then do as the “ man says “
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: No

Look at you, talking about things you can't possibly know.This is not unusual for you.
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: Yes

Says a reformed boozer who’s knob sucking wife sings psalms in her sleep 😂Maybe when you lay off the bottle things might become slightly clearer although I doubt it 🤪
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: No

If the real reasons for more gun control legislation is to save lives, why won't you support back ground checks in public places that sell alcohol to possible repeat DWI offenders?I don't want this, but if your goal is to save lives with all your anti Gun rhetoric, you should be over joyed to save many thousands more lives by having background checks on people before buying alcohol in public places.Do you have any idea how many times repeat DWI drivers continue to drink and drive? They drive even when their licenses are revoked!The only way to prevent this is to do a background check before they buy that weapon of death.....ALCOHOL!Wait, what you say? You say you don't want to be inconvienenced by background checks when buying alcohol? You say you are a law abiding citizen who would never drink and drive?You say you don't want to pay more for alcohol to pay for those background checks for past DWI drivers?I THOUGHT YOUR GOAL WAS TO SAVE LIVES? You expect law abidng citizens to pay more and put up with all the inconvienence from your anti gun legislation, but when it comes to your alcohol...... HANDS OFF?A drunk driver behind the wheels of a car happens millions of times more often than some lunatic with a gun! The odds of you or your loved one being killed by a drunk driver is far higher than the odds of being shot at a concert or Church.You are hypocrites and total jokes. You prove you could not care less about saving lives. You final goal is to take our guns.You always spew your ludicrous reasoning why only guns should be singled out to save lives. A police state is just fine as long as it only controls one particular weapon of death..... the gun.You say we already have alcohol restrictions? Yes, and we already have gun restrictions. You can't buy a gun under age, the same as alcohol. We can't shoot people, you can't hunt near public places and you can not drink and drive. BUT PEOPLE STILL DO IT!IT'S NOT THE WEAPON OF CHOICE, BUT THE PERSON BEHIND THAT WEAPON. Use the brain God gave you and start addressing why people grow up to be criminals, or become irresponsible drinkers who have no problem drinking and driving.Start addressing the core problem instead of their weapon of choice.
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: Yes

Why not save 30, 000 American lives a year by banning guns ?Why not prevent 70,000 gun realated injuries a year by banning guns ?Why is the U S such a violent society that its citizens need guns ?Why do you call yourself a Christian yet totally ignore the teachings of Jesus who no doubt you will claim would be a supporter of gun rights ?You can now run away and do what all gun nuts do and say “ there’s no problem at all it’s all just a load of commies trying to tell us how to live “
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: No

Allow me to answer your questions.Because of a proud founding group of Americans who defeated a tyrannical government and created a document by the people for the people guaranteeing certain inalienable rights. Our founders foresaw a time when their descendants may face a threat to our God given rights and set a solid foundation to protect us. Banning guns is not an option simply because of those first patriots anticipating that very thing coming to pass. A look back at history shows that change is inevitable and often accompanied by violence. Hunting for food and defense may be necessary. Violence is not a result of protecting the second amendment but a product of horrendous policies and laws enacted, essentially attacking our manufacturing, public works and agriculture industries. Unemployed disenfranchised skilled workers become angry at this imposed poverty. I for one will not be a victim to violence but will defend against it. Jesus preached love. People I care for are quite aware of my lifelong affinity for guns. I don't really preach love but I will do everything in my power to protect a friend from a threat. Fairly certain you are nota communist but a citizen of a country that took away your ability to easily defend yourself and loved ones.
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: Yes

Yes indeed so 30, 000 gun deaths and 70, 000 gun injuries a year are reason enough to continue with this bury your head in the sand attitude ?Jesus preached love and no doubt American Christians are totally fine with carrying a gun because after Jesus would have approved ☺️Thankfully I live in a country where I or anyone I know has yet had to defend themselves from a .... gun wielding thug or even an unarmed thug ; maybe that’s something you need to ask yourself as in why do you feel constantly under threat from your own extremely violent population?
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: No

The deaths of 30,000 souls to guns is equally horrendous as the countless victims of stabbings, dog attacks, reckless drivers or medical errors. Taking reasonable steps to limit human suffering and deaths is important. My ability to defend myself from unforeseen threats is important to me and my family or even a stranger such as yourself. The person burying his head is under the false belief that taking guns away from legal owners is even possible. One crazed criminal with a stockpile of illegal guns would find all those recently disarmed folks easy targets.
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: Yes

But we are talking about gun deaths , you’re admitting that 30,000 gun deaths a year and 70,000 gun injuries a year are a very “ reasonable “ price to pay just so you can defend yourself from daily threats of violence in your obviously incredibly dangerous country
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: Yes

you’re admitting that 30,000 gun deaths a year and 70,000 gun injuries a year are a very “ reasonable “ price to pay just so you can defend yourself from daily threats of violence in your obviously incredibly dangerous countryAnd the sheer irony is that the reason his country is so dangerous is, wait for it... because every Tom, Dick and Harry is walking around armed! The very second amendment law these imbeciles drivel about so senselessly, creates the reason they need the second amendment law in the first place!
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: No

a proficiently trained armed citizen will stop violence.Hello Jim:Nahh... Violence doesn't know good from bad.. Violence is, well VIOLENCE.. Consequently, a proficiently trained armed citizen WILL BE violent in ways you LIKE.. excon
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: Yes

excon, Good point and well taken. Let me rephrase... a threat of violence against my life will absolutely be returned in kind.
Debate: American Gun Advocates Are Incredibly Selfish Individuals
Side: Yes

It is beyond hilarious and of course guns still aren’t the problem 🤪🤪🤪