Debate: True or false. Religion never caused any wars, it was only people
Side: False

Well im going to be using my beliefs in this argument, and in my beliefs time is infinite, and we can stand outside of time, so we can know the future, so in a sense i believe we are on a divine plan kind of, so the reason i say who knows, is because there may be a reason for it, but we do not know, we have to find out.If we are going to logically debate, I suggest pushing some beliefs aside. It's practically impossible to debate with personal beliefs.Define a valuable outcome. Living in a bubble your whole life and never experiencing tragedy? thats not valuable to me.If tragedy is how you would like to call and dismiss suffering, torture, rape, depression, disease, all that sick stuff, then you're sadistic. Would heaven be too boring for your needs? Happiness should be the only outcome. Children having to suffer pain is no outcome I would even think about, but if you want that to happen, I suggest speaking to a doctor? What i meant for the murdered part was it wouldnt help the child because hed be dead anyways, so i mixed my words up there.Dead anyways? What about considering the life the child could of had? How about the suffering the child had to face before returning to the Earth? It doesnt have to make everyone depressed, his parents dont have to commit suicide, and he can become a very very strong willed person in life, which in my book, a heavy price to pay for a good value such as that. It doesnt have to cause pain for anyone, thats peoples choice to feel pain and not move on and be stuck in the past.Do you think it was my choice whether or not to feel depressed after the death of my Grandfather? No sane human would ever simply choose to feel pain from emotional wounds. As much as you would jolt and cry out in the pain of being cut, you would be emotionally wounded by the loss of someone you held dear- leading to depression. I am depressed as hell after my Grandfather died, but the only things keeping me from taking my own life was the knowledge of how he lived life to the full, and died peacefully in his sleep. I wouldn't be surprised if the parents of the child who was raped, tortured and killed commit suicide straight away. The gaping emotional cuts left of the memory of a child who was forced to do things they didn't understand, and be lead to experience immense pain before laying to waste would be unbearable. Such pain is unnecessary, both in morality and existence. The only logical reason such a thing would happen is through natural and realistic causes and events.Well i wouldnt like it, but trust me, i could very much easily kill someone and feel remorse, but never show it, because things happen, i wouldnt dwell on it, i would just keep moving along like nothing ever happened.Well, that's just you. But you are ignoring what I said about chemicals in the brain. There is a chemical which I presume is active in you now, making you reluctant to kill anything. Yes, you can say that you can murder someone, but in all sanity you won't. In serial killers, this chemical is lacking in their brain due to deformities, making them kill people. Why? Because they are insane. You lost one of my arguments again by not directly quoting my arguments. Next time, quote them directly. By that, I mean use the black words and write your rebuttal underneath them. It makes things a whole lot easier and organized.But the priest knows its wrong, he had the choice to not commit the molestation, but he chose to because he forced himself to believe in some way that what he was doing was right, see the power of belief? If i fully believe killing someone is no big deal, then it will be no big deal.The priest has read the bible, and is clear with his morals. So he knows well for sure that molestation is a messed up thing. But he has a brain condition called pedophillia; something he cannot control, as much as an Alzheimer's patient can't control their condition. Things could of been alright, but since the pedophile also has psychological problems, concerning things like self-control. Belief is just a factor, or an ailment of this chemical-of-self-control deficiency. Meditation is not just a fancy word, ive posted articles that meditation literally changes your brain and causes you to develop feelings of empathy and positive behavior.Breathing deeply to obtain more oxygen, relieving stress and tension and generally relaxing the body seems to have that affect. But if you talk so much about meditation, why do you insist on proclaiming how much you don't care if you murder someone, or if a child was suffering. Medication? oh please, the side effects of medication is what causes people to snap in the first place, "oh this medication doesnt make you feel right? here take this one. Oh that one made you feel worse? here try this one. Oh this one made you agitated? Here try this one." That will seriously, SERIOUSLY fuck someones brain upSide effects? Just because medication isn't perfect or fully developed doesn't mean it is useless. Are you seriously this misinformed? You are just describing the misuse of medication. We would thoroughly be all dead right know had we not been vaccinated from Small Pox and all those other nasty diseases. Have you ever suffered a major injury? If they had not placed anesthetics on those wounds, you wouldn't even survive the surgery, due to shock and a super-increased heart rate, leading to blood loss. Do not disrespect the legend of medication. It has actually saved millions, if not billions of lives; more than meditation can ever dream of.Meditation is just relaxation. All those bonuses of "happiness and well being" are the result of stress relief. You nutter.