azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Abnormal

Statistically speaking, vegetarianism is not normal.We are omnivores, not herbivores. It's not normal even without statistics. Neither is wearing all black, or eating a sandwich with a knife and fork. Now this, is a very stupid example. As the previous so does this have nothing to do with the debate.How about a cheese and meat sandwich with some ketchup in between, cooked in an oven or a microwave and is too hot to eat from hands? You eat it with a fork and a knife, unless you don't care about getting burned.Being an innovator is not normal.That suggests there's something wrong with the established. Change is necessary and normal, but not all change as our minds can produce such crap.Normalcy is not, in and of itself, the arbitrator of morality.I'm not talking about morality.Yes. When it comes to sexual affairs, I have a problem with those acts in which one or more participants is not a consenting human adult. Because only a human adult can properly conceptualize the meaning and potential repercussions of the act, and communicate its consent to its partner.You think some animals would not be okay with it? They aren't exactly smart... they might well like it, or some might like it. It hurts no one. Then why do you have anything against it? You think there aren't gay rapists? Think again.Well, if the corpse had given prior consent before becoming a corpse, then in the purest sense I do not...although it is no activity I'd wish to participate in. However, society tends to prefer to respect its dead. Particularly the loved ones of the deceased. So I can see why a societal taboo would be in place (not to mention certain health risks). And if the corpse did not give consent prior, see my above answer.Dead is dead, there is no need for a prior consent. It literally hurts no one. The only one it could somehow hurt would be the one doing it. Emotional "damage" to the loved ones? It's their problem they cannot deal with the fact that dead is dead. What if a loved one did the business, say the husband of the dead wife? Still need a consent? I mean, they were married. Why should death stop marriage? Marriage is a pointless thing anyway.No, you mustn't. There are more factors in play here than just normalcy. These are all very different sexual practices that need to be judged and compared using ALL criteria, not some arbitrary talking point.Oh, yes you do. If you don't you're a hypocrite.They are different, yes. And they are all wrong, they are all deviations from normalcy. If you aren't attracted to the opposite sex then you have an issue, essentially meaning you aren't normal.How does it affect your life, or make society any worse? Why the hell should you care what two people do in privacy and in love?I don't care about them at all. What pisses me off is the fact that it is considered normal and okay to be messed up, that there is nothing wrong with it, as if it is the right way. It's not right, it's not normal nor okay, it is wrong and abnormal, a disorder, and should be considered as such. That's all I really care about this topic.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

My examples all identified activities that are abnormal, but not hurtful to society or the person in general. Something that is "abnormal" is not necceserilly bad. We are not all cut from the same cloth. Nor should we be. If we all did basically the same things, felt the same way, responded the same way, I find it unlikely that our race would have lived so long. I'm not talking about morality.So it wasn't you that said "Talking of morality, homosexuality goes toward immoral."? Did someone hack your account?You think some animals would not be okay with it? They aren't exactly smart... they might well like it, or some might like it. They aren't that smart but we are. Our abilities to reason, to identify consequences and to feel emotion are a) more sophisticated than theirs b) provide us with an added level of responsibility. It is the same reason why pedophilia is wrong. The players on on two different playing fields intellectually and emotionally. In a basic sense, I actually do agree with you about necrophilia. But if someone did not wish their body or the body of loved one to be treated in such a matter, I wouldn't have the heart to tell them to loosen up. They are different, yes. And they are all wrong, they are all deviations from normalcy. If you aren't attracted to the opposite sex then you have an issue, essentially meaning you aren't normal.You are measuring it by this ludicrously rigid criteria. I am measuring it by individual contributing factors and consequences. Since we are use using different criteria, what would make you a hypocrite would not make me one. Because I'm NOT THE ONE saying something is wrong purely by virtue of abnormality, so it would hardly be hypocritical of me to accept or deny other, very different, things that ALSO happen to be abnormal.What pisses me off is the fact that it is considered normal and okay to be messed up, So is it wrong to have diabetes? To be infertile? Missing a limb? Older than the average life expectancy? To have attained higher levels of education than the majority? These are all statistically abnormal. Want to curse at people in each category? Have us brand them with some scarlet letter?
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Abnormal

Something that is "abnormal" is not necceserilly bad. We are not all cut from the same cloth. Nor should we be. If we all did basically the same things, felt the same way, responded the same way, I find it unlikely that our race would have lived so long.People are different but not all differences are positive. This one is wrong by genetics and/or by one's mind.So it wasn't you that said "Talking of morality, homosexuality goes toward immoral."? Did someone hack your account?You were talking about morality, I simply said it goes toward immoral, not that it is immoral. It's like having an issue that you can resist with your mind but won't because the issue itself says it is okay. Like doing something wrong because the issue says it is okay.Since we are use using different criteria, what would make you a hypocrite would not make me one. Because I'm NOT THE ONE saying something is right purely because it hurts no one. The rest, well, a deviation from normal is a deviation from normal, it's natural but not right (I'm not talking, and haven't been, about positive deviations, like being exceptionally intelligent or just good in something specific, or some other, rarer benefiting deviations). Negative deviations in animals, for example, won't normally survive. The only reason they are so prominent among us is because of our minds, because we allow them to keep existing. In animals there is a natural purification, we no longer have that, we have almost complete control over our own lives, and there's also the help from others.So is it wrong to have diabetes? To be infertile? Missing a limb?Not to have but the deviation itself that is not right, as it is negative. Being messed up is not okay. Diabetes is something you cannot resist with your mind. You cannot just make your body fix yourself and you cannot grow a new limb (yet... science). Gays could choose not to give in to their desires, since in the end we choose what to do, how to act.Older than the average life expectancy?This is a poor example. It's not even remotely similar to the debates topic. Are you referring to the average life expectancy in Africa? Some particular countries with a very low one? Or globally?Everyone has a life expectancy but not everyone is gay.Life expectancy has to do a lot with the environment, in fact I'd say it has almost everything to do with the environment, unless one has very strong resistance to negative influences, or is just lucky.To have attained higher levels of education than the majority?Similar to life expectancy, has a lot to do with the environment. It's not something that comes from within one.These are all statistically abnormal.I'm not talking about statistics. Statistics are easy to abuse. Statistics do not care about details, usually.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

Liar. That list wasn't short at all.------------------------------------------------------
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Abnormal

Answer this. Those animals, do they also bang females of their kind? I bet they do. That's not homosexuality, that's bisexuality.Homosexuality means having a sexual attraction toward the same sex. Are those animals sexually attracted to the same sex, the way that they only do their own gender? Without ever doing the right gender? I bet it has something to do with dominance or just being confused or just having a mating season and being incapable of controlling themselves and thus they bang the first fluff of fur they see. They do not have an abstract mind as we do. They have instincts and urges to ensure survival, those tell them to fuck the right gender to have offspring. If some of them have urges that direct them toward the same gender then that means they are genetically messed up, it means they have a genetic disorder, and it also means they will not have offspring, meaning their flawed genes will die.Homosexuality is a human thing. Seeing similar acts done by animals while they also bang the correct gender, and claiming those acts to be a sign that homosexuality is okay, normal, right, is very stupid. Those "homosexuals" are attracted to the females of their kind, the same does not go about humans.Rendering your "argument" completely worthless.Who's the mindless fuck now? As you failed to include important aspects.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Abnormal

First, homosexuality is a lifestyle choice, and I have nothing against homosexuality.Second, unfortunately, the list was probably an huge waste of time because comparing animals to humans is completely fallacious due to Jean Paul Sartre's Existence precedes Essence. Basically, human action is based on rationality whereas animal action is based on instinct.Therefore, rationality in human action allows for choice while instinct in animals action is inherent inclinations.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

Homosexuality is no more a lifestyle choice than Heterosexuality, I just dont understand this attitude that Homosexuals had a choice about their sexuality but Heterosexuals did'nt it makes no sense
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Abnormal

That's so stupid.If there were no heterosexuals you think we would exist? Homosexuality alone would lead to certain extinction. There can be no children from banging your own sex, ever. You must be quite stupid to think that having no choice whether to be heterosexual or not makes no sense.The fact that there is homosexuality among humans makes no sense, literally. Unless it's a way of population control... Homosexuality is genetic and environmental. It is a choice and there is an inherent inclination also. Sometimes it's only choice that is influenced by the environment, actually I'd say this is so most of the times, not just sometimes.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

"If there were no heterosexuals you think we would exist", "Homosexuality alone would lead to certain extinction" no shit Sherlock but we do have Heterosexual's the same way we have Homosexuals and guess what no one chose who they were attracted to it just happens. You think if Homosexuals had a choice they would pick the one that guarantees a tougher life because of people who are too narrow minded to accept them as a normal part of society, I doubt it, saying Homosexuality is a lifestyle choice is like saying being Black is a lifestyle choice and you think i'm the stupid one, I despair about the state of the human race sometimes
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Abnormal

we do have Heterosexual's the same way we have Homosexuals and guess what no one chose who they were attracted to it just happens.If we had them the same way there would be equal numbers, yet there aren't.As I said there are environmental factors also, and in some cases that is all there is. They basically "chose" it. If it's in genetics then that's just fucked up, just as is any genetic disorder or malfunction or anything similar.You think if Homosexuals had a choice they would pick the one that guarantees a tougher life because of people who are too narrow minded to accept them as a normal part of society, I doubt it, saying Homosexuality is a lifestyle choice is like saying being Black is a lifestyle choice and you think i'm the stupid one, I despair about the state of the human race sometimesThey do have a choice. Even if they are genetically messed up they can still choose not to follow their urges.You are narrow minded as you cannot and don't want fathom the truth. Because clearly accepting the truth would hurt too much.Despairing about the state of human race... you've got no idea how bad it is.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

I wont accept your truth because I know it to be wrong, if accepting people as people regardless of their sex, sexuality, race etc makes you think i'm narrow minded fine that's just like you opinion dude but in my view I think that someones opions are pretty fucked up if they think a Homosexual is genetically messed up
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Abnormal

I wont accept your truth because I know it to be wrong,That's a delusion...if accepting people as people regardless of their sex, sexuality, race etc makes you think i'm narrow minded fineYou're narrow minded because you cannot understand that homosexuality is a disorder.but in my view I think that someones opions are pretty fucked up if they think a Homosexual is genetically messed upAren't you the one saying that homosexuality is not a choice? And now you are saying it is a choice?Being homosexual, genetically, is being genetically messed up. Homosexuals cannot have children of their own blood (that would require going against their "feelings"), they cannot help us keep existing.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

Being Homosexual is not a Genetic Disorder neither is it a choice (hope my stance on this is now clear). You say that being a Homosexual cannot help us exist sure they cant have their own children but in this overpopulated world we dont really need people to keep procreating but Homosexuals can help us keep existing, they can adopt unwanted or orphan children and can be doctors, nurses, dentist's all things that help the human race exist, some of the greatest minds in history were Homosexuals the guy that invented the computer was a Homosexual. Just because I disagree with you does not make me deluded or narrow minded.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Abnormal

Being Homosexual is not a Genetic Disorder neither is it a choice (hope my stance on this is now clear).In that case homosexuality could not exist... yet it does.It's clear alright, that you don't really know what you are talking about. You say that being a Homosexual cannot help us exist sure they cant have their own children but in this overpopulated world we dont really need people to keep procreatingAre you kidding me? If people stopped having children we would, literally, go extinct. In less than 150 years.but Homosexuals can help us keep existing, they can adopt unwanted or orphan childrenYes, they can, and I'm fine with that. And also, if people stopped having children there would be no children to adopt...and can be doctors, nurses, dentist's all things that help the human race exist,There would be those either way.some of the greatest minds in history were Homosexuals the guy that invented the computer was a Homosexual.It would've been invented anyway, simply a bit later. And so what if he was? It doesn't change the fact that homosexuality is not normal. Stephen Hawking, you know how fucked up he is? Yet a great mind.Just because I disagree with you does not make me deluded or narrow minded.If what I say reflects reality then you opposing that makes you basically what you just described.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

I've read through your responses to other people and you just keep repeating the same thing if someone disagrees with you "your Delusional", "your stupid", your an idiot", is that your idea of an itelligent debate? (Just a friendly word of advice maybe reign in the insults and try and debate in a more friendly manner, your less likely to annoy people). Now to address your points, Heterosexuals will never stop having Children regardless of how overpopulated the world becomes, so having some people who dont or cant have children wont adversly affect the worldYes we would still have Dcotors, Nurses etc but you said Homosexuals do not help keep the human race existing I just pointed out ways that they do helpWithout Alan Turing the computer might have been invented but who knows, the thing we know for definate is that the modern computer is based on his idea's, he also was the man who broke the German Enigma code during WW2, before he did this the code was believed unbreakable and thanks to his work the code was broken enabling America to move troops across the Atlantic, making D Day possible and so ending the war earlier and saving many lives (not bad for a man whose sexuality does not help the human race exist).Your final post I just disagree I dont think what you say reflects reality and I dont think i'm deluded or narrow minded
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Abnormal

you just keep repeating the same thing if someone disagrees with you "your Delusional", "your stupid", your an idiot"Not disagreeing with me but contradicting logic, reason, reality (this is mainly in religion debates...). Because those are what I base my opinions on. There are also certain people that keep providing nonsense as arguments, and I keep responding to them. And there are people who are prejudiced to certain things, even delusional as it has come out on some occasions. is that your idea of an itelligent debate?Sounds like your idea of an intelligent debate is giving nonsense as arguments.Just a friendly word of advice maybe reign in the insults and try and debate in a more friendly manner, your less likely to annoy peoplePeople differ... How strong or sharp I come off as does not only depend on me. If the opposition gives idiotic arguments then that's exactly what I will say it is. If they keep making them then from there it goes easily to insults.Now to address your points, Heterosexuals will never stop having Children regardless of how overpopulated the world becomes, so having some people who dont or cant have children wont adversly affect the worldYou said, "... in this overpopulated world we dont really need people to keep procreating but..." That means that no one will have children.Yes we would still have Dcotors, Nurses etc but you said Homosexuals do not help keep the human race existing I just pointed out ways that they do helpYou pointed out something that would make no difference as people doing those jobs would exist either way.Without Alan Turing the computer might have been invented but who knows, the thing we know for definate is that the modern computer is based on his idea's, he also was the man who broke the German Enigma code during WW2, before he did this the code was believed unbreakable and thanks to his work the code was broken enabling America to move troops across the Atlantic, making D Day possible and so ending the war earlier and saving many lives (not bad for a man whose sexuality does not help the human race exist).This point of yours is worthless.Just because someone with some specific disorder did something great does not make that disorder something great nor normal. If someone "messed up" did something great that does not make that person "not messed up". As I said something about Stephen Hawking... Why is his disease/disorder not being praised?Your final post I just disagree I dont think what you say reflects reality and I dont think i'm deluded or narrow mindedExactly, you don't think.You don't agree that someone's arguments that reflect reality (that usually means being based on reality), when opposed make the opposer wrong?All I'm saying is that homosexuality is not normal, it is a deviation from normal. A disorder.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

You say your debates are based on religion, now we're getting to the crux of the problem your basing your arguments not on reality but on stories which were originally written many many years ago by people who had a vested interest in getting people to believe what they wanted them to believe so they told them it was the word of God or whoever is the big man in your religion, these stories have been translated into many different languages by other people and as everyone knows things get lost in translation and get changed to suit whoever was running the Church at the time (as we all know religions are not exempt from corruption) to get to the position we are in now were people put their blind faith in these stories and accept them as reality, now that really is deluded.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Abnormal

You say your debates are based on religion,I have literally never said that, anywhere. Do you have trouble understanding what you read?whoever is the big man in 'your' religionI assume you just made a mistake while choosing words 'cause I'm not religious.now that really is deluded.Taking fiction as reality, on blind faith? Yeah, it is.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

Quoted direct from your argument: "Not disagreeing with me but contradicting logic, reason, reality (this is mainly in religion debates...). Because those are what I base my opinions on." That's where I got the idea about you basing your agument on Religion, I assume it could also be read that you base your arguments on logic, reason and reality, I opted for Religion because you brought up the subject and your arguments are not based on any form of logic, reason or reality
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Abnormal

"Not disagreeing with me but contradicting logic, reason, reality (this is mainly in religion debates...). Because those are what I base my opinions on."How can you misunderstand that? I gave a short list then I added, in brackets, where it mainly happens. Then I said the listed things are what I base my opinions on. I base my opinions on "where it mainly has happened"? That makes no sense.and your arguments are not based on any form of logic, reason or realityBecause you seem to lack all that.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

It was easy to misunderstand, your arguments are not based on any form of reality apart from what obviously exists in your own little world not on the real world and you brought up the subject of religion before this religion had not even been mentioned. Anyway i've had enough of going round in circles with you it's been fun but is now getting boring