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Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

WOAH!CATCH YAH!"All that make you happy should not be sin"MURDERERS-TAKING LIFEROBBERS-TAKING AWAY OTHER'S STUFFRAPIST- SEXUALLY ASSAULTING OTHERSIT MAKES THEM HAPPY!THEN THEY "SHOULDN'T" BE PENALIZED?..RIGHT?..IT'S WHAT MAKES THEM HAPPY!IT DOES NOT MEAN IT MAKES YOU HAPPY THAT IT IS NOT A SIN...IT'S NOT YOUR HOTLE ROOM.. IT'S OUR WORLD!
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

What's with the shouting? Please, be civil. I think we are "missing the mark". Murdering, robbing, raping, pillaging, lying, cheating, stealing, these things do harm to others. A mentally stable person does not get pleasure from doing harm to others. Also, something being a sin does not make it illegal. When was the last time you saw an episode of cops where they broke down someone's door for coveting?Shouldn't we be comparing similar things?
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: Yes

I don't think they're happy when they're doing all the things you're talking about. Most of them do things that turn the others, which are not a good thing for the rest of society, and they're conscious of the fact that they are not doing a good thing. If they seem to be happy it's likely to have a mental problem. As long as you don't hurt others and you accept you as you are then loving another man is certainly not a sin.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

People...I've been reading the links you sent me and I can definately say one thing...huh?I knew there would be euphemisms and interpretations but homosexuality just doesn't seem to be a big deal in the Bible. Where's the long tirade against same sex union? Where's the parable of how Christian slept with a man and developed maggots in his dick. How come there are no stories, lectures, examples?What little there is takes on the form of...Bill that thing with Ted maybe not a good idea. Hardly the blood searing evil everyone seems to think homosexuality is. But then again the Bible does condone incest and a few other nasty things.Once again I'll say that if it was that big of a deal God would've mentioned it.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: Yes

Agree 100%
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: Yes

Good point.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: Yes

Good point however, organised religions rarely follow their holy texts too closely anyway.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

What is so bad about homosexuality? If two consenting people decide to do something in private, is that any of our business?
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Given that the world economy is teetering on the edge of catastrophe, we aren't taking any significant steps to deal with human activity's contribution to ecological and weather disruption, we are way behind where we should be in developing alternate energy sources, and 40 smaller nations are now developing nuclear weapons programs...how can any sane or rational human being think it is important to fuss over what two men or two women do in the privacy of their own home?!To those who think it's a sin? So what? Don't do it. End of problem. Demanding that others are obligated to listen to the voices in YOUR head is twice as insane. (The rest of us have our own voices, thankewverymuch.) This is an argument that's a dead end. Homosexuality has been around ever since sexuality began. It's not going to go away. Declaring it a sin is a way for sexually insecure people to dominate and bully others and cause needless pain and hurt to those who want nothing more than to experience their own ability to love. The advocacy of homosexuality as sin is merely a self-righteous justification for legal and illegal forms of discrimination; but the bigger sin is hypocrisy. Jesus told us to love one another, to forgive one another, and not to sit in judgment of one another. The bible has only six passages which have been interpreted as condemnations of homosexuality, but over 300 condemnations of adultery -- in fact, "thou shalt not commiit adultery" is one of the big ten no-nos. So why aren't the same folks who have their panties in a twist about homosexuality also worried about their own hypocrisy, judgmentalism, and self-righteousness?Enough already. The real Christians in this world are focusing on feeding the poor, healing the sick, educating the children, helping the elderly, and making a real difference in their communities.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Homosexuals aren't harming anyone or anything by being gay, why can't we all just accept them?
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: Yes

I accept them as human beings, I just don't accept their sin.They are sinning against a great and holy God, that isn't harming anyone?
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

According to the Bible, Homosexuality is a sin. However, I suppose it would have to depend on who you ask also. Most Homosexual people claim that they were born so, and that it isn't necessarily a choice. If this is the case, and there really is no choice, then I can't see why "God" would consider it to be wrong. Now even if it were a choice, why should that matter either? I'm not a religious person, but I think that if there were a God, and he apparently gave people the ability to have free will and their own opinions about things, why shouldn't they be able to exercise said free will?People have the right (at least in America) to make their own decisions, why should the view/opinion/moral belief of one person interfere with the opinion or personal preference of another.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Does anybody actually read philosophy? Does anyone study ANYTHING anymore? First of all, "sin" is far too subjective a word to be used in this case. It is easily confused with notions such as right and wrong, good and evil. Sin implies an act prohibited by a particular religion. There are lots of religions. What is considered a sin in one is not in another. What was considered a sin in antiquity is now considered acceptable. If you want to pick and choose your sins, which many people do, fine. Just know that you have done so and be capable of understanding that as well as applying as much meaning as is reasonable to any act. Or, to be clearer, call homosexuality a sin all you want, but remember that wearing clothes of two different kinds of fiber, interacting with women who are menstruating, eating shellfish, doing work on Saturday, and working for a credit card company are also pretty sinful. If you're going to disregard your own sins and focus on the ones you like, fine, just be aware of your choice to do so.As for right and wrong, the major moral systems, like deontology, founded by Immanual Kant, a staunch Christian, really forms no valid argument against homosexuality other than, "I don't really like it, it's gross." Well, you know what, I think eating beef is gross, but I'd hardly call it a sin. Let alone Jeremy Bentham and John Stuart Mill, founders of Utilitarianism, who have nothing much at all to say about homosexuality.So, is homosexuality a sin? It depends strongly on who you ask and their biases, which they aren't likely trying to control. Is homosexuality wrong? Well, try taking ethics 101.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

NO!!!! Homosexuality shouldn't be a sin! Its basically being a sinner for being born :P
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

It shouldn't be considered a sin because if it is then we would have to punish them (like give them a good spanking or something) and they would enjoy that way too much ;)
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

http://godmademegay.com/Letter.htmThis is Letter to Louise, one of the best studies of the actual words in the Bible - not the English version, the real Bible, in it's actual languages it was written in - as it pertains to homosexuality.Read this. THEN tell me how you think homosexuality is a sin. Very, VERY, thin argument your side is making.Then let me throw a few verses at you about love, your obligation to help the disadvantaged, and your fundamental need to abandon your wealth if you truly seek God.That will make a very interesting session.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

From Letter to Louise:Genesis 18:20 to 19:29--The Sodom StorySome consider the sin of Sodom to be same-gender sex, although we are not told in Genesis what Sodom's sins were, only that they were so great that God determined to destroy the city. On the evening before its destruction he sent two angels, in disguise as men, to the city to lead Lot and his family out early the next day. Hospitable Lot invited them to spend the night at his house. During the evening the men of the city surrounded the house and demanded of Lot that he bring the two men out so that they could [19:5]King James Version: "know them."Revised Standard Version: "know them."New International Version: "have sex with them."When Lot refused to bring his guests out, the men of the city were about to break his door down when the angels struck them all blind and the mob dispersed. The next day Lot and his family were led out of Sodom, and the city was destroyed by fire and brimstone from heaven.The Hebrew verb used here, "yadha," "to know," is used 943 times in the OT and only ten times clearly to mean "have sex," then it always means heterosexual sex. The word normally used for homosexual sex is "shakhabh." Many scholars believe that in Gen. 19:5 yadha means "know" in the sense of "get acquainted with" (the city's men may have wondered if these were enemy spies or they might have sensed the city's impending doom and been concerned with what these strangers were doing there) and have several arguments for this, including Sodom's being used as an example of great sin numerous times in the Old and New Testaments with nothing ever said about same-sex sex, and the context of Jesus' references to Sodom (Luke 10:10-13) which seems to imply lack of hospitality as the sin.Other scholars think it was the common practice of showing dominance over and humiliating outsiders by forcing them to take the part of a (an inferior) woman in a same-gender rape.Others think it means "have sex," and point to Lot's offering his two virgin daughters to the crowd if sex is what they want, if they will just leave his guests alone. If this is the right interpretation, it is clearly about violent, criminal, gang rape, something always condemnable.Another thought is expressed by Religion Professor David L. Bartlett: "This story is certainly an unlikely starting point for a `biblical' understanding of sexual ethics. While the attempted homosexual rape by the men of Sodom is explicitly condemned, the offer by Lot to hand his two virgin daughters over to the violent and lecherous inhabitants of Sodom is related without a word of judgment."B-2Conservative theologian Richard Hays says, "The notorious story of Sodom and Gomorrah--often cited in connection with homosexuality--is actually irrelevant to the topic."B-3There is nothing in this story applicable to our consideration of homosexuality.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Again from Letter to Louise:Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13Revised Standard Version:22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman, it is an abomination.13 If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall be put to death...The King James and New International versions say virtually the same thing.Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13 are the only direct references to same-gender sex in the Old Testament. They are both part of the Old Testament Holiness Code, a religious, not a moral code; it later became the Jewish Purity Laws. ["Abomination" is used throughout the Old Testament to designate sins that involve ethnic contamination or idolatry. The word relates to the failure to worship God or to worshiping a false god; it does not relate to morality.] Professor Soards tell us, "Old Testament experts view the regulations of Leviticus as standards of holiness, directives for the formation of community life, aimed at establishing and maintaining a people's identity in relation to God."B-4 This is because God was so determined that his people would not adopt the practices of the Baal worshipers in Canaan, and same-gender sex was part of Baal worship. (The laws say nothing about women engaging in same-gender sex; probably this had to do with man's dominance, and such acts by the subservient had nothing to do with religious impurity.)God required purity for his worship. Anything pure was unadulterated, unmixed with anything else These Purity Laws prohibited mixing different threads in one garment, sowing a field with two kinds of seed, crossbreeding animals. A few years ago in Israel when an orthodox government came into power, McDonalds had to stop selling cheeseburgers. Hamburgers, OK. Cheese sandwiches, OK. But mixing milk and meat in one sandwich violated the Purity Laws--it had nothing to do with morality. These were laws about worshipping God, not ethics, and so have no bearing on our discussion of morality. Helmut Thielicke remarks on these passages: "It would never occur to anyone to wrench these laws of cultic purification from their concrete situation and give them the kind of normative authority that the Decalogue, for example, has."B-5Another reason they are not pertinent to our discussion is that these laws were for the particular time and circumstances existing when they were given. If you planted a fruit tree, you could not eat its fruit until its fifth year, and all fruit the fourth year must be offered to the Lord. A worker must be paid his wage on the day of his labor. You must not harvest a field to its edge. We readily dismiss most of them as not applicable to our day and culture, and if we dismiss some of them for any reason, we have to dismiss all of them, including the sexual regulations, for that same reason.When we add the fact that these laws were talking about heterosexuals, it makes three reasons, any one of which would be sufficient, why they have no bearing on questions about homosexuals or homosexuality or on the morality of same-gender sex by homosexuals today.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Let me state here and now why I even bother posting any of this.I couldn't care one rat's ass about what any Baptist or Evangelical thinks about anything. I wouldn't darken the door to your home or your church for all of Bill Gates' money. It is my view that the least likely place on Earth I will ever find a person of God is in those two places. End of discussion. The hate and abuse those two camps spew forth is enough to turn my stomach, let alone the hypocrisy and love of power and money their leaders clearly exhibit.I don't care if I ever change your view of anything. Who cares? Stew in your own hatred for all I care. History is against you. We will have our freedom, our rights, and the respect we deserve as gay people. There is no force on earth that will stop that. The younger a person is, the less hate there is. This is a battle you have already lost.What I care passionately about is getting out the word to other lgbt people that there is nothing to fear from the hate mongers that dare call themselves followers of Christ. They are not. They have no more the word of God on their lips than the local village idiot. What I want to say to my lgbt family is simply this: if you would like a church life, if you would like to express your spirituality, there ARE churches out there that love you, embrace you, and desperately want you to be a part of the faith, as you, not one change needed from you.Our hearts and minds are open, and we want you to know that, to be heard above the bigots that have kept you isolated for so very long. Don't assume that the right wing idiots are by any means "religion" and that you are excluded. You are not. In many churches - mine most certainly - lgbt people are the life and soul of our congregation and we simply would not exist without their love, compassion, hard work, and devotion.If this is what you yearn for, let no man keep you from it. There is nothing about your sexuality that keeps you from God. Learn it, love it, live it.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

It may be said to be a sin in the bible but if there is anything I have to disagree with that is in the bible it is that homosexuality is wrong. Has it not been proven that gay people are gay from the get go? Should you have to confess and beg for forgiveness to get into heaven just because you like the same sex?
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Homosexuality has been proven to be a result of nature. It is not a choice to be attracted to members of the same sex.For you theists, explain it to yourself how you want, but if there really is a God, he's clearly testing you to see if you've learned the Bible, and he wants you to understand how important it is to accept all his creations in all the shapes, sizes, and forms he sends them.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

A question more suitable for tents and caves in a darker age. Luckily we now have more than one book to give us guidance. Time to move on.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Is it one of the seven deadlies? Nope. Ten commandments? Nope. Our business what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own homes? Also a no.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

I consider a sin to be somthing that harms others and being homosexual does not harm anyone so why should it be considered a sin.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Just let people be who they are and how the were meant to be. Grow up seriously people, learn that people are DIFFERENT then you. Love is love no matter the gender. It is not a freaking sin. What people do in there spare time is their business not yours, society these days need to learn to stay out of other people's business.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Absolutely not i am honestly a religious person and i say absolutely not i think that gay marriage is the same as regular marriage while the bible says marriage should be between a man and a women. It also says treat people the way you would want to be treated and they deserve a right to be married!!!!
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Assuming it is a sin as in a transgression of church dogma, it isn't called a sin. Something sinful requires consciously selecting to transgress that church's dogma and I'm unaware of anyone in their lifetime being asked by some "Holy Spirit" if they would like to be born a homosexual. It's a political construct by certain political groups that wish to impose their political dogma on the entire nation. Let it be.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

I think homosexuality is fine because i am a moral person!!!!!If two people love eachother nothing should be able to keep them apart, and not to mention that homosexual acts have been recorded in hundreds of animals! so not only is it natural but there is absolutely nothing wrong with it in the first place, the world is very overpopulated as it is we dont exactly want more kids.also a sin isnt morally right or wrong, a sin is an act that goes against a divine power or law. So some religions say that its a sin, but if you look at almost all the 'is god real' arguments on this website you will see that the atheists are winning :P
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Only God can say what is sin and what isn't, so until he breathes the information into our brain through the use of some type of telepathy, then who can really say for sure if it's sin or isn't a sin.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Hate should be considered a sin; not homosexuality. Love is not a sin.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Of course it's a sin. Which is a completely arbitrary judgment, making this debate a complete farce. But is it wrong, in any objective, philosophic, or pragmatic sense? No.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: Yes

I would have to agree with you on this one. By its definition, what constitutes a sin relies on the context of a divine law, without that context (which is not given in question of this debate) it is largely pointless to debate what is/isn't or should be/shouldn't be a sin.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

I agree with your personal conclusion, but not your interpretation of the question. The question, "is Homosexuality listed in the Bible as a sin?" Is not worthy of debate, and it is obviously not the spirit in which the poster asked the question.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

You're probably right, however the actual question is "Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?" And since this is an educated debate, we can only go by what the actual questions says and not by what everyone makes of the spirit of the question. Especially in this case, "Sin" is such a context heavy word, that for a lot of people, me included, it can't be equated to "morally wrong".
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Assuming the Western religious context of 'sin', the restated question is: 'should we accept the the Bible's instruction on homosexuality?'. Yes, homosexuality is unequivocally a sin in accordance with biblical understanding but of course it isn't wrong, so long as it doesn't endanger anyone's lives.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

I really don't think the Bible is for real, but I know Christians that are Gay, so here is my 2 cents.I did a quick search and found this interesting web page that says Christ took away the "Law" of the Old Testament and now "Grace" is in effect, nullifying Leviticus 18:22. Bam.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Are we debating guy 'n' guy love, or girl 'n' girl love too? I only see references to guy sex/love. Got another debate about that....
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

I take the Buddhist stance on sin: the only sin lies in harming others unnecessarily. All other sins are invented nonsense.How does one man loving another man unnecessarily harm anyone?
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

NO. The Argument field must be at least 14 characters in length.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Doesn't that depend on if one believes in 'sin'? If one does not believe in sin, as I do not, then the only correct answer is 'no'.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

We have moved on to a post-victorian era. Old concepts, especially something everyone with the freedom to move, to talk should be granted. I have no concern what people are doing in private as long as it causes no greater harm. And I am pretty sure the Bible was written a few hundred years ago when views on homosexuality are unfair, it needs a someone new to update it. Jesus Jnr?
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Homosexuality doesn't hurt anyone, so why call it a sin?
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

I'm gay, and my trait of being attracted to members of the same gender is no more a sin than me having the trait of being 5 foot, 9 inches tall. Grow up, people. Grow up. I chose neither trait. They just ARE traits that I have. Of course, sin implies a belief in a supernatural being, which is absolutely ridiculous to begin with.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

No one is harmed by homosexual behavior. Love is more important than antiquated social ideals.