azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

Wow, you are anti-Christian. I've been an atheist for thirty years and even I know that this country was founded on Judeo/Christian ethics. Read some American History, the Federalist Papers perhaps or a book called, "The 5000 Year Leap". I have NO problem with the laws in this country based on those ethics. Our government, to correct you, is NOT a theocracy. The separation of church and state has it's roots in the government not endorsing one particular faith or church ONLY. Try to read up on our country's history. Obama and his administration are socialist. Look up their political leanings, the majority of his 28 Czars (by the way George Bush had only 8) are communists, look it up. People who think alike hang together. The communists in America have infiltrated black churches and have espoused "social justice", "redistribution of wealth". Those are socialist terms. Look those up and you'll find that even Obama has used them in his speeches. He has kept his past well hidden so as not to alarm the voters and expose his true beliefs. Look it up. Stop allowing their rhetoric to cloud your judgment, they try to demonize anyone who speaks out against their agenda, those are the tactics of socialists, straight out of the Saul Alinsky book. Look it up. Please don't say "never" when it is happening now. They are trying to "fundamentally change America" didn't you listen when he said that? Didn't you stop to think what he meant by that? They are passing spending bills that are taxing us into oblivion, don't you see that when they do that we lose a little bit more of our liberty? If we pay more and more of our income to pay for programs for others who aren't contributing we are losing the say-so of where we choose to spend our hard earned money. I sure hope you can understand what I'm trying to say. I voted Democrat for 32 years until I decided to look into this administration, research for myself. I'm no longer a Democrat.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

He is definitely somewhere in the middle right now. Although he may appear socialistic right now, this is mainly because of the economic state we are in. Usually in a depression or recession the government becomes more socialistic, and then swaps back to capitalistic values after their economy returns to normal.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

The "New Deal" dragged the depression out much longer than it would have if they had just let it alone.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

Wrong again, the U.S. economy was on the rebound throughout almost FDR's entire Presidency, period.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

I agree with you sir. In fact it was the War that got us out of the Depression. My parents were teenagers during the Depression, I learned a lot form them. I voted Democrat for 32 years until this administration, I woke up. This is the worst president for America. I love my country and I DON"T want it "fundamentally changed".
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

Now before I say anything, I have a disclaimer: I am a fourteen year old kid, so I just might have no idea what I'm talking about. Now that that's over with, here I go. The free market economy is structured in such a way that it will rebuild itself over time if a recession such as the current one occurs. In the month of November, and for the four months before that, sales, housing, stocks, and consumer confidence have gone up. Call me crazy, but I think that this free market economy just might be serving its purpose. Obama has no business messing with the ebb and flow of our free market, which by the way is quite possibly the greatest economy in the world.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

Obama is not a socialistic. Most of the bailouts are in part because of the previous president and incompetent CEO's.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

Obama is not a socialist or socialistic.He has not advocated for state or worker control of private enterprise. He has merely given some corporations a lot of money. He doesn't control or own them.Expressing a desire to help those in need does not make you a socialist. It shows that you are human. Not being overly religious doesn't make you socialist.Opposing religion in politics doesn't make you socialist. It also doesn't mean you hate religion. It just means that you think they shouldn't influence each other.Obama certainly isn't as openly religious as Bush but he isn't going to persecute religion like how Bush and his followers persecute non-believers. More people are free to live their lives without government influence because Obama believes in the separation of church and state.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

Uh, HELLO! What do you think happened when they bailed out those corporations? They used our money, the tax payers money. They forced people to resign and take pay cuts. "Expressing a desire to help those in need does not make you a socialist. It shows that you are human". You are right, but nowhere in the Constitution does it state that Government has the obligation to help the individual person or make an equal, classless society OR have the vested power to "BAIL OUT" any industry. Which of course has been done before.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

If you remember Bush signed the $700 billion to bail out the banks and not obama. Also the bailout benefited the owners and corporations and not the common people or workers as a socialist action would. Sure the constitution doesn't say we need to bail out corporations or such but it also doesn't say we need to invade countries for imperialistic aims, spread capitalism around the world, or deny people certain rights because they conflict with the ruling religion. What i'm getting at is that, apparently in America the constitution, sadly, is merely a guideline of how to act or at least that is what most conservatives act like it is.When you mention people being forced to resign and or take pay cuts, are you talking about the ceos and other positions of power or the workers? Ceos and related personnel might have been forced out by bailout conditions but workers were forced to resign or take lower payouts because the corporation decided to do that and not the government. Don't get me wrong, i think the bailouts were a terrible idea, and executed even worse but that is because the bailouts were constructed to help keep the corporations and the people running them able to continue their practices that brought about this mess in the first place.Bush forced all this to happen, does that make him a socialist in your view? Obama inherited the mess and expectations of the country. The majority of his solutions and the end goals have been capitalistic in nature so really are saying he is a socialist because you dislike him and know that many Americans will accept that and blindly go along with that idea.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

Yes, there are "progressives" on both sides of the isle. But in Bush's defense, he did state he hated to have to do it. I still don't think he should have, but he is still somewhat on the "progressive" bandwagon.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

and who was in full support off that? The Republicans, i believe they drew up the whole bailout thing in the first place under Bush.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

Obama is a full red communist! He doesn't have an ounce of capitalism in him!What kind of idiot are you to say he's not at all a socialist?Thats just like questioning whether Hitler was a nazi.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

I feel like i'm gonna repeat my self again but obviously you haven't payed attention so far. I'm gonna break it down for you. First some definitions from http://www.merriam-webster.com which i assume is credible in your opinion.Socialism: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goodsCapitalism: an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free marketNow that you know where i'm coming from you should be able to realise that obama is in fact a capitalist. That is if you actually listened to him and what he did and didn't get your marching orders from the likes of rush limbaugh or glenn beck.1) The automakers bailout was a capitalistic move because he gave huge sums of money to the corporations so that they could keep going without challenging the business structure at all. a socialist as you should know would have abolished the position of ceo and either given COMPLETE control over to the workers of each plant or fully nationalized the company so that the government owned it. giving money without gaining official control or ownership doesn't constitute a socialist action.2) His remedy for the healthcare system in the US is also capitalistic because he seeks to maintain private health companies with them giving few concessions. A socialist would have made a plan to abolish all private health insurance companies and create a sole organization to run healthcare. merely adding an additional insurrance company(which happens to be owned by the government) does not make this plan a socialistic move.i could go on but i'l be lucky if you really read all of what i just wrote. If you still believe he is socialist(which sadly you probably will) please respond with a list of defineite policies obama has taken that make him so. Also I down voted your argument not because i disagree with you but because your argument contained no substance or support. You make big claims and believe that we should just accept them at face value.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

I am a Socialist. Barack Hussein Obama (mmm mmmm mmm) is not a Socialist.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

Not really. I actually think he is pissing off some Socialists because he isn't as left leaning as they had hoped based off of the stories the conservatives were telling before his election.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

It is now 2015 and no way is our President a Socialist. The Obama bashers lost out on this dirty scheme of theirs.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

He's shaping up to be possibly a top 10 president if he continues on the path he's followed so far... the odds of anyone chalenging him in 2012 who is of similar calibre are pretty close to non-existent. Especially from the GOP, where people operating at that level frankly simply do not exist right now and couldn't win a primary against the "Tea Baggers" even if they did.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

TOP 10 Possible President. OHH, Please. It has only been a year and 3 months.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

Yes, exactly. And look at what he's already accomplished. So as I said, if he continues on this path he is certainly shaping up to be in the top 10.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

What has he done? Don't mention that health care reform because we both know that it is health insurance reform and health care reform is fixing the actual system who provide the actual care. Health insurance don't provide care, they finance it.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

Since the problem with the health care system in the US has never been quality of service but rather ability to access that service, I think I'll just ignore you since you have no idea what you're talking about and go ahead and include health care reform.Hmmm, what else, what else. Were you alive when he took office? Did you have access to any media? While you were accessing that media was anyone talking about the economy by any chance? We were in the steepest nose dive the economy has experienced since the Great Depression. Now where are we just a little over a year later? Projected 6% GDP expansion this year. Thank you very much stimulus measures. And my 401k has most of it's value back. Perhapos you don't have one, but I rather appreciate that.Remember TARP? That thing everyone went ballistic over when it was passed before Obama took office to prevent the total implosion of the financial sector? It's almost all  paid back  now.We can do stem cell research properly again. Most of the government agencies are getting restaffed with people who actually have some freaking clue what the job is supposed to be, which is refreshing. Our international relations have practically been completely reset after the US became a pariah in half the world during Bush's term. We're slowly but steadily getting the hell out of Iraq where we never should have been in the first place. Proper focus has been returned to AfPak after Bush and team horrendously neglected it for years. We've been rolling up senior Al Qaeda and Taliban leaders at an increased pace as a result, we've even got Pakistan actually actively contributing to the effort for a wonder. He managed NOT to go grandstanding and screwing up the situation in Iran when the election protests erupted, which I absolutely guarantee the GOP would have immediately tried to spin for political advantage by beating their chests and declaring their support for the protesters... a more certain way to guarantee they'd be instantly crushed I can't think of.Etc...Refresh my memory... what did the last guy accomplish in his first year? Besides blow the surplus he was handed on a silver platter by throwing it away on tax cut give-aways primarily to the rich and completely ignore every intelligence warning on al Qaeda until 9/11 happened that is?
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

Not sure where you have the right to insult my intelligence suggesting if I was a alive when he took office or if I have access to any media and I have no idea what I am talking about? There are groups and parties that agree with me. This would include Libertarian Party, Cato Institute, and Heritage FoundationI did not get ballistic over TARP, even check the other debates. I supported the TARP because the despite mismanagement of Wall Street Executives, financial sector is the lifeline of the country. Taxpayers should always foot the bill even if it was Wall Street's fault.I also support stem cell research.Why do you assume that I supported the Iraq War. I don't. I don't that think that you can blame Bush 100% because the President can't declare or authorize war. That is the Congress. Congress also must appropriate funds.Bush Deficit vs Obama Deficit. I don't agree with either government spending. More government spending = more inflation. Within the next five years, the U.S. will be hurting with high inflation. [1] Inflation has risen 84% since 1984. Current inflation rate is 2.14% for 2010 and projected to increase into 2011. [2]Lastly, as noted before, I never said that I supported Bush completely. He is a moron. As for Bush tax cuts, how do you think jobs are created without tax breaks or incentives? Obama is doing the same thing. Tax cuts to create incentives for job creation.http://www.inflationdata.com/inflation/consumer_price_index/CPI.asp  [2]
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

I wasn't insulting your intelligence, I was questioning your powers of observation. You may be brilliant but were walking around with your eyes shut and hands clamped over your ears (for brilliant reasons, I'm sure) and thus had no idea what had happened. It was as good an explanation as anything for your apparent perception that Obama hadn't accomplished anything.And I didn't assume you supported anything. You asked what Obama accomplished, I listed accomplishments, you got offended that I responded to your question. That is the sequence of events here.And there is a MASSIVE difference between necessary and frivolous government spending and deficits. Preventing the imminent implosion of the national economy and a plunge into a Depression? That's an environment that  requires  spending to avert total disaster.Passing massive tax breaks for your rich buddies and bribing seniors with prescription drugs right before an election without paying for them? That's recklessly irresponsible unnecessary spending.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

Please reread my last post. I edited it.S, I assume that when April 15 comes, you just love paying your taxes. You jump for joy and sing in the rain. You say, Paying Taxes is American.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

Ok, I've read it. I don't see any need to change my response unless I'm missing something though.And I'll soon be receiving my 10k+ rebate check. I'll let you guess how I feel about that.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

Oh 10k rebate check. WOW. Cool. Remember that check is coming under the Bush Tax Cuts but of course those tax cuts were only for the rich, I thought. Tax cuts 2001 to 2010.Just like all liberals, you love the idea of government programs and taxation, but just unwilling to pay for them. You want more taxes, but thrilled to see that you get 10K from tax rebates.It appears that you like the tax cuts, but Obama wants to let them expire in 2011. [1]
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

No, that check is coming almost entirely under the 8k new home buyers credit I'm earning for buying my house last year... which was passed by... hmmm, who was that guy again? Tall fellow. Dark skin. Currently lives in a large white house out east somewhere... Bush's "tax cuts" do next to squat for me. Nice try though.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

New Home, Congrats. Yeah that legislation is working great now that the housing market is out of the economic trough. OHH wait, it isn't.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

You just can't stop trying can you?It was called a bubble. It burst. It's not in a "trough"... it's back to rational pricing levels. There will be house price recovery but if prices jumped back up to where they were before it would be a BAD thing.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

Bubble or burst is a term that people use who don't know what they are talking about and heard it on CNN and know nothing about economics. Economic trough is consequence of a business cycle after there was a peak in expansion. Many areas of the nation experienced double-digit-percent declines in house prices where they peaked to a trough.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

Yeah... people who don't know what they're talking about like Nobel Prize winning economists.http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/08/opinion/08krugman.html Quick! Go teach him about economics!Also, just to address an earlier nonsensical claim you made that I somehow missed properly ridiculing... let me get this straight. Conservatives who scream and cry and stamp their feet any time anyone even MENTIONS the word "taxes" are the fiscally responsible people who know that things need to be paid for, and the people who are fine with the need to pay taxes to actually pay for things don't want to have to pay for things? Or is just the fact that I personally got a nice big rebate this year the thing that means I don't want to pay taxes? Either way, that's just spectacular reasoning. Bravo.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

Fred is using bubble and burst as to describe the situation in laymen terms. If he used real economic terms and jargon, most people would be lost. Quick GO READ A ECONOMICS BOOK!!!!The only taxes that actually need to be paid are military and police and some public institutions.So what you are willing to pay for since you are willing to pay for universal health care but not all of your house?So you are a economist but not just a Nobel Prize winner. Oh
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

You mean economics books like this one?http://books.google.com/books?id=TPa22fYkDSsC&pg=PA436&dq=economics+text+bubble&lr=&as_brr=0&as_pt=BOOKS&cd=2#v=onepage&q=economics%20text%20bubble&f=false Or maybe this one?http://books.google.com/books?id=nUWOUrMDQPEC&pg=PA9&dq=economics+text+bubble&lr=&as_brr=0&as_pt=BOOKS&cd=15#v=onepage&q=economics%20text%20bubble&f=false Possibly this one?http://books.google.com/books?id=dpTBdNGGrtUC&pg=PA281&dq=economics+text+bubble&lr=&as_brr=0&as_pt=BOOKS&cd=30#v=onepage&q=bubble&f=false Want to dig that hole any deeper or are you good where you are?"Some public institutions". I like that. It's suitably vague that you can completely cover your backside. How about we try pinning you down a little bit though.Medicare? Is that a public institution that counts? Or do you want to tell the entire senior population of the United states they're on thier own for health insurance?Social Security? How about that one?Transportation? Do you like interstates and air traffic control?Regulatory institutions? Should we just let Wall Street do ANYTHING it wants? Because letting them do most of what they wanted has been working out awesomely...And genius, I am not only wilingl to but AM paying for all of my house. If the government wants to give me a tax break for purchasing it I'm not telling them no though. And I have consistently, throughout my entire life, said that tax rates are too low and should be raised. And yes, that includes on me. I have never lobbied any representative to try to lower my taxes because I am a grown-up who knows that we DO actually have to pay for things we ask the government to provide. I make quite enough money to comfortably support myself and also pay my fair share to support the government institutions that keep the nation running and don't need to throw a childish tantrum just because I'm expected to contribute.