azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

dumb. yes the fish is not going to attack because it not starving, But that not the point if the animal was starving it would attack.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

Are you seriously going back to this point?Let me start over then. I had began by disputing you saying that animals eat humans, by saying that animals eat humans only rarely and in those rare cases due in part to oddities in nature. I then went on to explain that those oddities include, but are not limited to, a starving animal that has no other pray around (meaning normally animals don't eat humans as I said) or a spacial dispute (meaning the animal feels the human is encroaching on it's territory, and will kill it to protect it's area, and obviously will eat it since passing up on food could spell death)Now that we've back tracked do you see how you just agreed with what I was saying all along, that animals do not normally attack and eat humans, key word here, normally.With that said, you have obviously run out of arguing points and are just reaching for anything you van to hold on to the idea that you are right. You are wrong. If not in the point of the debate, in at least the point that animals eat humans normally. Admit it, their is nothing else you can say.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

Sorry but I been around and study more on animals then you. It is normal that animals would go after a human because there starving and there is no other easy prey around. This would be the same with humans. I don't know why you argue with a person that seen animals attack other animals and humans.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

I highly doubt that. You offered wikipedia of all sources as your only key source, and even though i said nothing of your offering of wikipedia I still disproved your point.You claim to know more about animals, but you are saying literally the wrong things, and trying to dispute facts and sources proving that you are wrong.You are trying to use a red herring, to distract from the point you are bringing up your (probably false) credentials. How about we leave the credentials out, and just provide some proof to your claims?
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

Please I am not wrong if I was I would say so. You have not disproven anything. And your getting shit ass articles from people opinion not fact.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

How do you think humans would have lived if there are no animals. I mean with out animals we would not live. Humans are not more important. How would we do chemical testing. Or cures. how would plants grow.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

With out animals there would be no humans. They must be worth the same or even more. Animals allow food and plants to grow. They help us keep warm. They helped with cures.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

First, Humans made themselves to be above the creatures we call animals. Ironically, animals can live without humans but humans can't live without animals. Humans hunt animals for food, clothes, and other things which are all essential to then human's survival. For animals are essential to us, then they have great value.Second, animals has always been essential to the development of the human race. In the field of medicine, animal testing has provided cures and discoveries that have benefited humans. According to the president of the foundation for Biomedical Research, Frankie Trull, through animal research, there are numerous discoveries that are found through animals, "From antibiotics to blood transfusions, from dialysis to organ-transplantation, from vaccinations to chemotherapy, bypass surgery and joint replacement, practically every present-day protocol for the prevention, treatment, cure and control of disease, pain and suffering is based on knowledge attained through research with animals."Third, Animal's inability to think rationally does not make them worthless. Animals as companion and pet have benefited humans. Some dogs and miniature horses have served as a guide to blind humans. Animals of different kinds that served as pets have been able to relieve human from stress and have given humans unconditional love. In fact dogs have save thousands of human lives in different kinds of situations.Animals though they may not understand the human language, deserve respect and care. They have helped humans through different aspects. They are taken for granted. They are worth more than what they are.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

First, Humans made themselves to be above the creatures we call animals. Ironically, animals can live without humans but humans can't live without animals. Humans hunt animals for food, clothes, and other things which are all essential to then human's survival. For animals are essential to us, then they have great value.Second, animals has always been essential to the development of the human race. In the field of medicine, animal testing has provided cures and discoveries that have benefited humans. According to the president of the foundation for Biomedical Research, Frankie Trull, through animal research, there are numerous discoveries that are found through animals, "From antibiotics to blood transfusions, from dialysis to organ-transplantation, from vaccinations to chemotherapy, bypass surgery and joint replacement, practically every present-day protocol for the prevention, treatment, cure and control of disease, pain and suffering is based on knowledge attained through research with animals.I contest that as it is humans discussing this subject matter, simple rational self interest makes us more important than the animals are. Secondly, your assertion of value doesn't work either; everything we use comes from basic raw materials, but the end product is generally more valued than the raw materials. A pair of shoes is more valuable than the combined value of the leather, plant and/or synthetic materials, metal, and other raw materials that are used to make them. This concept is referred to as a 'value added product,' and it is among the most basic cornerstones of economics- and not just in capitalism.Third, Animal's inability to think rationally does not make them worthless. Animals as companion and pet have benefited humans. Some dogs and miniature horses have served as a guide to blind humans. Animals of different kinds that served as pets have been able to relieve human from stress and have given humans unconditional love. In fact dogs have save thousands of human lives in different kinds of situations.Animals though they may not understand the human language, deserve respect and care. They have helped humans through different aspects. They are taken for granted. They are worth more than what they are.You're right that animals inability to think rationally does not make them worthless. You are also right that they are deserving of respect and care, and that they have helped humans in numerous ways. You are also right in saying that they are truly worth more than the value typically assigned to them. You have not, however, made a case for either the objective or subjective value of an animal being equal to or greater than that of a human.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

Read the details of the proposition. The details says that without animal, humans would not live and with out human, animals would not live. As in saying we need animal testing and animals need cures. As in saying we are both worth the same that we can't live with out each other. Are these statements true? Obviously, which are the main points of my arguments though I don't agree with the proposition that without humans, animals would not live; as you can see in my first argument. Even though humans have the ability to create something from raw materials, there will be no creation without the raw materials. Human development was not without the help of animals. There are many important discoveries that are only possible through the help of animals. Therefore animals have equal worth with humans.Now, the proposition is broad but it's still fun debating about it.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

I suppose it's ironic that I might cite them, given that they would likely support the 'yes' side of this debate, but... the entire vegan movement seems to disagree with the notion that we cannot live without animal products and animal testing. Go figure.All of the uses we make of animals, and all of the testing we perform on animals hinges on one thing- that human life is more valuable than animal life. Without this as a basic premise, there is no justification for using them as food, using them for clothing, using them as test subjects, etc.Furthermore, in the absence of animals, our fellow humans could easily replace every function we use animals for- this is an extremely dark idea in my mind, and not one I advocate, but it is there.Animal products and testing are not necessary for human survival as vegans note. The uses for animals you note are only used under the premise that human life is more valuable than animal life- and in the absence of other animals, our own fellow humans could be used for the same purposes. On the other hand, there isn't a single animal on the planet that can replace what a human can do. Humans can do everything animals can and more, and can be a source for all of the raw materials that we rely on animals for to boot, if one is willing to throw out the rulebook. Ergo, from an objective standpoint, humans are worth more.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

If there was no animals. There would be no humans. There for would be no life on earth. Animals are more important to life.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

You're right that if there were no animals, there would be no humans, as we would not have had a common ancestor to evolve from. But we aren't making a value assessment based on a hypothetical scenario where no animal life evolved on earth. If we were, there would be merit to this point.We're making a value assessment based on the current state of animals vs the current state of humans. While I'm far from vegan myself, I have to acknowledge that it is entirely possible to live without making use of a single animal product. As such, if there were no animals, humans would still be around, and there would still be life on earth.Animals are useful, there is no doubt about that, but they are not worth as much or more than humans; they are not worthless by any stretch of the imagination, but they must be valued lower than human life.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

This debate is not about the state now. It about the state of history. And plants need animals to grow. humans need cures that come from animals. If anything animals are more important to life. This debate is about who is important to life. Animals gave us so many things that if we did not have we would not live. And even if we did live we would still be stuck way back in the 1500 or even the 500.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

Even taking history into account and working from that hypothetical scenario, you still haven't built a case for animal life being equal to or greater than human life in terms of value.Even if you had, the value of animals in that regard has been expended; if they were to disappear today, we'd still enjoy all the benefits of having had them thus far, but by no means would that threaten our own existence.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

Dude if there no animals today it would be every bad. We would have to start eating meat from nuts and things like that and guss were those things come from plants and guss what plants need animals. Animals give all different kinds of things to let plants grow. Animals are more important to life. humans can't go long if animals disappear today. Things will down fall so fast people fighting over the last medicines. People will have to be used for testing. Meat supplys from plants will be so high. It will be impossible to feed everybody. And the list goes on and on.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

I'm not suggesting it would be an ideal world in the absence of animals. Animals perform basically three functions that support plants- they assist in pollination and scattering seeds when they feed on the plants, and they provide nutrition for the plants in the form of their droppings and also as they decay after death. The overwhelming majority of plants consumed by humans are products of agriculture, rather than wild plants that are foraged- as such, human farmers and their equipment can and currently do take on the roll of pollinators and seed scattering. Furthermore, nutrition received from animals ultimately comes from plants to begin with; decaying plant matter can provide nutrition for other plants in exactly the same way.Impossible to feed everybody? I beg to differ. Without a need to maintain wild habitats for animal life, agriculture could expand. Raising livestock to eat, feeding them plants, is in fact extremely inefficient. A field of grain will feed far more people than the total meat yield of the maximum number of cattle that could be supported by the same field. Compared to the current status quo, it would in fact be easier and cheaper to feed everyone on the planet a vegetarian diet.People are already used for testing- it's called clinical trials. Without animal testing, certainly there would be more risk and more unknowns at play when medications are tested- but it doesn't mean the end of testing, or the end of medicine.Furthermore, I must reiterate- noting the uses of animals as raw materials (eg food, leather, etc) and for medical testing does not support the idea of animal life being worth the same as human life or more- it is in fact predicated on the fact that animal life is worth less than human life. Were it not, we would be testing animal medications on humans rather than the other way around.Remember- you are supporting the side that believes animal life is equal to or more important than human life. You've made good arguments for the idea that animals are undervalued, but you have still not come anywhere close to making a case for animals being equal or superior to humans. I don't think it can be done, because as near as I can tell humans are both objectively and subjectively superior to animals- but I'm willing to hear you out if you can put a coherent argument together that actually supports your side.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

Remember with out animals your ass wouldn't be here. None of us would be here. Point is people are weak with out animals. Animals has been the reason why we lived so long to evolve. Still there are medicines that comes straight from animals that people need. There is still fur that we need from sheep. Fish also is a every big supply for food. They also help with medicines. And fish also provide oil. And we wouldn't have even discovered oll with out animals. Because we would not have lived with out animals to even had any discoveries. But discoveries are not even apart of life anyway. In fact life would probably be better with out humans. Knowing that humans can destroy the world with one stupid war or that human make alot of deadly experiments. Humans caused alot more harm then good in are history to life. Life doesn't need smarts or discoveries so humans are point less.And you are making good arguments too. Your just still not close to proving that humans are the same or more important to life.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

You keep jumping back and forth- yes, without animals we wouldn't be here- no evolutionary predecessors. I've already told you I'm not taking hypothetical alternate history into consideration here. Again you list the uses of animals- all of these uses are predicated on the assumption that animal life is worth less than human life, and as such can be sacrificed for our benefit. You're proving the case that animals are worth less than humans for me!Not that I need to prove that, anyway; it's the default claim for a number of reasons, the least of which is rational self-interest. It is the accepted standard. The claim that an animal is worth the same or more bears the burden of proof in my opinion.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

I am sorry but I am not talking about anything else. I am only talking about what is on the debate topic. And what it says "Is a animal worth the same to life as a human" And that is true and animals are probably even more important because life doesn't need smarts or discoveries so humans are point less. Life only needs living things not computers and cars.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

It seems that we're at an impasse, and I can't help but think that it's due to us using different criteria for assessing value. Perhaps before we continue, we should establish and agree upon some criteria for valueing life in general? What do you propose?
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

The same would be if there was no more humans but by no means would that threaten animal existence.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

Good argument.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

Good argument. He has been my second best debater this week. But JustIgnoreMe is my first best debater this week.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

If He Is So Great, Why Are You Disputing Me?
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

I know he is talking about. Animal are worth the same If there was no animals there would be no plants. If there are no plants or animals we would die. There has been lots of diseases and other things that if humans did not solve. The animals would have die. There for we are both worth the same to life.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

People pay thousands for animals. people pay humans nothing. I mean I get payed but I had to work for it.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

Humans Spend Far More On Humans Than They Spend On Pets.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

It because we have to. Not because we want to. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

Do You Humans Have To Pay For Humans, Or Do They Not Pay Them Anything? Make Up Your Mind.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

Like I said people don't not want to pay taxs to help other people.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

That Isn't Your Argument. You Aren't Claiming That People Pay For Others Pets, You Are Talking About Personal Pets. I Am Talking About Loved Ones.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

No I am talking about all animals. This is not about love ones.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

So are you asserting that the average mosquito is equal in value to the average human, all emotional considerations aside?
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

People Don't Pay For Animals They Don't Deal With.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

Because alot of people take animals for granted. If there was no animals there would be no people.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

So, you are saying if you eliminate a massive portion of the living beings on the planet some other beings would be affected? That isn't saying much. If humans weren't around, there wouldn't be buildings, computers, satellites, space stations, or plastic.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

buildings, computers, satellites, space stations, or plastic.That stuff doesn't matter to life. The only things that matters to life is living things. And with out animals there would be no life.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

Life isn't affected by those things? Computers are used to study and generate info to help the planet. Buildings drastically alter the landscape. Plastic is a material that is used everywhere. Living things aren't the only things that affect life.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

But with out living things none of that is possible. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

But with out living things none of that is possibleYour scenario is ridiculous, eliminating giant amounts of life is not a valid test. That stuff can't be built without living things, so those things are less important than animals which are less important than humans.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

You have stupid response. You should be so lucky that there are animals or you would not be here. Animals are life to this earth. Animals are the most important to life on earth. If you think your more important then your wrong.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

What would survive if we destroyed 90% of life on Earth?
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

Fish, Some humans, depends on what you talking. If zombies invade it could just be humans. If it was a big rock that it the earth, some humans could survive but not long because there would be nothing to eat.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

So, Humans Would Survive And Animals Wouldn't? Doesn't That Go Against What You Just Said?
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

The only reason you know about how life works is because humans are around. No animal has discovered how to document life processes.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

And no human could have with out animals. Thanks to animals we have lived so long. Animals are the reason why we are here. Animals are most important to life.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

Well No Duh. How Are Humans Supposed To Document The Life Processes Of Animals Without Animals?
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

If it wasn't for other Animals there wouldn't be no Us. Other Animals don't need is, but we need them.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

Yes, we were both put on this earth and even though many people think that we rule this world, we truly don't. Without animals this earth would not be balanced. We seem to forget that animals were on this earth before us, they had this land before we came in and shoved them out of the way, killing them with no mercy whats so ever. I have an extremely high opinion on animal rights so I enjoy arguing for them : )
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

I don't believe anyone truly believes this, including to original poster. If we accepted this view then it would mean they have the same right to unemployment benefits, housing, health care etc. On the other hand it would also mean that they would have to accept the same social responsibilities as humans. For example, following laws, social customs etc. But of course they cant because they lack the capacity to under what social responsibilities are.
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: Yes

This is not about giving them rights !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!
Debate: Is a animal worth the same to life as a human
Side: no

How can they be of the same value but not deserve the same rights? Is the word 'value' merely poetic to you?