Debate: Can government create jobs and wealth?
Side: No

Where was all your anti-government anti-common worker rhetoric (minimum wage) when Bush was in office? I don't remember you on this site then.I wasn't on the site then, and I don't give a what shit what you remember, douche.I thought Bush was a good President except for the war. Funny how Obama ran for against the war YET WE ARE STILL AT WAR.I'm trying to figure out if you are literally a crazy person who sees big bad government in the shadows,I'm trying to figure out if you are literally a government loving assfuck who only thinks about how the government can feed you, wash you, and wipe your ass.if your a cynical right wing ideologue who understands Republican policy is directly responsible for current economicsNo, I am not a Republican right wing ideologue. I hate Republicans.I think Republican are just as stupid as Democrats. Democrats are liberal socialist and Republicans are progressive conservatives.I want names and instances of this being the case. I'm under the impression that anarcho-capitalists have the same rights exactly as everyone else.There are more than you think.Hey, asshole, the Bill of Rights are guaranteed under the United States Constitution. As I said before and apparently I have say again due to your inept memory, I SUPPORT GOVERNMENT LAW ENFORCEMENT, MILITARY, and COURTS.has to make up wild stories to convince yourself that liberals are evil demons who eat babies...You are the one who keeps bringing up the story that liberals eat babies. I have never did once. Maybe it is true.I vote, therefore I have a say in government.If so, when was the last you called your senator or representative, and you were against a certain bill, and didn't get a automated response. If not, you must be fucking special. For me, it is all automated response either email, phone or letter.I have no say as you don't either because the officials and bureaucrats don't give a fuck what we think, they are only after their own agendas of more government.What's more, this admin is a hundred times more transparent than the last one - again, where were you 2 years ago with this crazy talk?Why is everything crazy talk? You must be the only with the crazy talk.Obama and his back room deals.Obama Kills Public OptionObama buys votesMoreObama Job Offer to SestakEven MoreWAIT...Now, you will say that this was all in the interest of the nation and not everything the public should know about. Wait, that is what Bush did.The point is, I don't have to work in a government agency in order to be a part of the US, which is a government of the world. Wrong, if you don't work in a government agency, you are not part of the government, which means you have no say in anything, you are just a pathetic citizen just like everyone else.Under my system, government works for the people, under your system, people work for the government.When did the US government become the world government. I MUST HAVE BEEN HIDING IN THE SHADOWS.Economy is impossible outside of governmentThat is liberal speculation, and there is a huge amount of evidence to the contrary nor do I have the time or the inclination.Outside of some sort of government, there is no agreed monetary value, no rules, no law.Again, I support government law enforcement, courts and military.You would have to trade chickens for dental care and nothing is stopping bandits from stealing your chicken on the way there.Seriously, where do you come up with this crap? Liberal Response Guide written by Retards.What you want is all the stuff government provides, without responsibility for maintaining that government. It's like a kid wanting allowance but refusing to mow the lawn.That is inaccurate. The only stuff I want government to provide is law enforcement, military and courts. If the government didn't take more in taxes than what people pay in food, transportation and housing combine, maybe some things that you see as government necessary and don't have the money, well, they would if not high taxes. Private school and roads would be affordable.Yeah I know. It is a democracy like I said... wait what kind of economy do we have? Oh yeah, capitalism. I was describing the government + economy.WTF???? What is this mumbo jumbo?As for the proceeding lines - you've gone utterly off topic. You are setting up a strawman. My argument with you is not one of socialism vs capitalism. It's democracy and capitalism with over site and social programs vs pure capitalism. I'm actual quite moderate - which is why you need to continuously set up these strawman arguments.I am the strawman, you should talk.YOU HAVEN'T GIVEN ONE FUCKING ARGUMENT RELEVANT TO THE DEBATE!!!Again, I was describing both economy and government. You are not separating government from a particular government's economic system. This isn't my misunderstanding, it is yours. I know there is a fundamental difference between form of government and economics. They are not the same. They are clearly different..WAIT, if this is correct, you think our democracy describes both our government and economic system as one. OK, what did you study? Because it shows.There is no economic worth in hiring two people for 3.75 an hour instead of one for 7.50.DID I SAY THAT STRAWMAN? WHO IS CREATING THE ARGUMENTS WITH HIMSELF NOW?No one could live on that wage, no one cannot raise children, it would create in essence, a cast of peasants.SCARE TACTICS, SCARE TACTICS. Did you get this out of the Democrat Rhetoric Hand guide. How many times have I seen this?*WHY NOT RAISE IT UP TO $100 PER HOUR? THEN LIFE WILL BE GREAT!! OH, WAIT BECAUSE EVEN YOU AND I WILL BE UNEMPLOYED because nobody can afford to pay 300 million people that much money. And the 7.50 is the reason for unemployment now, at least some of it.Age and education are the two most basic determinants of the wage a worker can command in the employment market. Young people generally have less experience and maturity and are usually not productive enough to demand a very high wage. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS), the bulk of minimum-wage workers are under 25, with limited education. Again, very Unamerican of you.How? No, you are. You want less freedom and more government. What you don't realize is the more government, the less free? Apparently, you like being controlled by your master, big daddy government.People deserve an honest days pay for an honest day's work.They will. Lets say, the end of the world scenario of yours where no will live and everyone will die.Well, if a employer chooses to go down to $3.50, then guess what, he will have difficulty finding anyone willingly to work for that little of a wage. They can go somewhere where they do pay more money, and since they are adults, I am sure they can come to an agreement on the appropriate wage. This is already done in the professional area. What the minimum wage does it allows companies to dump all their lower hierarchy jobs into the minimum wage.Name a country without a minimum wage with a living standard above that of a third world country.Germany, Norway, Sweden, Italy, Denmark, Singapore,Germany is the fourth largest economy in the world. No Min Wage