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Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

True Christians will campaign for what is right, right as in according to what God has commanded. How can one go wrong with the ten commandments? They are simple and straight forward. "Thou shalt not kill". That is all they need to go by in their campaigns against abortion, how can their definition of "right" be wrong then it goes by those four words?
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

"That is all they need to go by in their campaigns against abortion, how can their definition of "right" be wrong then it goes by those four words?"Because regardless of what they believe, abortion isn't murder or any form of it.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

NOW we have a big-ass argument ;) I disagree. A woman who is pregnant has a child inside her; this is life, which (if not murdered/aborted) will be welcomed into this world 9 months later and grow into a person, like you, like me. A heartbeat is present after only a couple weeks, fingers, toes, ears, they are all there just like on myself and anyone else (bar those who are missing a finger or toe etc). If a baby lying in a woman's stomach goes on to become a person such as you and I with a heartbeat it has the right to live.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

"this is life"It isn't. It has the potential to be so. It isn't technically alive. Why do you think they give you a certain amount of time to abort it before it's two late? A pregnant woman has 3-4 months to abort the thing. Within that time period, it isn't alive."A heartbeat is present after only a couple weeks, fingers, toes, ears, they are all there just like on myself and anyone else"This still doesn't indicate life. The child is developing, yes, but it still isn't alive. It's just a composition of cells."with a heartbeat it has the right to live."Says you. But that doesn't make the difference.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

When you say that she has a certain amount of time to abort it, that is correct. But if the time period you gave is the time period some women choose, they are aborting a child that already has a heartbeat. Doesn't that mean something? All living things have a heartbeat! When a man is injured, a medic will feel for his pulse; if there is a heartbeat, he will hurry and get him to a hospital. Life is precious, the heartbeat counts for something - it counts for life. The life of an individual who has every right to live. "Says you. But that doesn't make the difference."Well, it does to be honest. When the world tells me no, I say yes 10x louder. The same goes for the Christians who campaign against abortion; they believe it does make the difference. If it didn't, there wouldn't be people telling them to "stfu".A heartbeat, fingers, toes and ears DOES indicate life.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

Granted, the heart is needed to survive, but a pulse alone doesn't mean life. The heart is very much an independent organ and can function by itself outside the body. The true driving force behind the body, the brain, is the key difference between what is living and what is an empty cell shell. On that note, the brain isn't even fully developed at 25 weeks. Nothing can truly be considered alive or "life" until it is independent from its host. Until birth, the developing fetus is nothing more than a symbiote. Barely a step up from a parasite.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

"A heartbeat, fingers, toes and ears DOES indicate life."Regardless of your minimal understanding of child-development, these do not indicate life. Get over it.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

Just because I'm not giving in, no need to get snappy. Have YOU ever had a child inside you? Ever felt it kick? Felt its presence at 3 months? 2 months? Have you? Of course you haven't, you are male. Unless of course you requested a womb be planted inside of you and you concieved that way.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

"no need to get snappy"I'm not. You're reading too much into my responses."Have YOU ever had a child inside you? Ever felt it kick? Felt its presence at 3 months? 2 months? Have you?"Honestly, no. Then again, I'm not female so if I did, thee would something seriously wrong with me. Regardless, involuntary kicks don't mean anything. Just developing nerves at work.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

Let me make a bet. I bet that in the future, if and when you have a child, you will realize that your child is alive when you place your hand over her stomach and feel it kick, when you look at the scan and see its tiny form curled up, when you feel it respond to your voice through your hand. Back to the argument! "babies move inside the womb as they develop, stretching and flexing as they grow, reacting to sounds, their mother's emotions, foods the mother consumed, and the position their mother is in." So no, not "just developing nerves at work", it is much more than that. Babies react/kick to voices, emotions, sounds and so much more.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

"if and when you have a child"That's too big of an assumption. I don't plan on having children. If I do, fine. If I don't, Great!"you will realize that your child is alive when you place your hand over her stomach and feel it kick, when you look at the scan and see its tiny form curled up, when you feel it respond to your voice through your hand."Sorry missy, but unlike you, I won't let emotional bias get in the way of logical thought."So no, not "just developing nerves at work", it is much more than that. Babies react/kick to voices, emotions, sounds and so much more."Natural stimuli. Common in every organism and very predictable in a developing organisms. Regardless, it is still not alive. Not until it's independent of its host.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

"Natural stimuli. Common in every organism and very predictable in a developing organisms. Regardless, it is still not alive. Not until it's independent of its host"Our opinions differ immensly here. A baby with a heartbeat, toes, fingers, ears and the ability to move around within its "host's" (mother's) womb is most certainly alive.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

"Our opinions differ immensly here."Well, it's your opinions vs. my facts. That's all I've been tossing up here."is most certainly alive."Except when it isn't and it's not. What you define as life doesn't match the criterion definition of what is living.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

Hallow, a fetus meets all the characterists on a scientific level for being a living thing. They develop, just as babies outside the womb do. They take in nutrients, just as babies outside the womb do. They react to discomfort and pain as well as to its mother's emotions, diet, sounds and positions. Furthermore, the child has sleep patterns independent from its mothers. Their hearts pump their own blood supply also. Their internal organs begin to function as they grow including their brain and nervous system. That is factual.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

"That is factual."Very impressive. That's the most logic I've seen you dish out this whole debate. Bravo.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

Merci! (I am new here, you have been here a long time, do the math). I find it amusing that you didn't actually say anything about the facts lol.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

"I find it amusing that you didn't actually say anything about the facts lol."I'm sure you did. Regardless, they were facts and that's what I find amusing about christians. They'll ignore all logic and facts until they support their cause or point of view.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

But I had just offered a whole bunch of facts? That surely credited for something, especially since they have been scientifically proven?This is going round in circles, it has been ... interesting debating with you but I think this has taken a negative bickering turn when initially it was planned to be a mature debate. For the record, Christians don't ignore all logic and facts. You however make accusations that are false and extreme, which is not such a good thing when the oppisition asks you for proven statistics to back up these extreme and false accusations. You seem to have met the wrong kind of Christians, which has clearly distorted your views. Not all Christians are bad, just the same as not all Muslims are bad, or all Jews or any other religion or belief. I have met many well-mannered, kind, thoughtful and caring athiests, and I am not stupid enough as to count all athiests into the same basket and insult them, just because I do not share their belief. Do us that same kindness, and realize that in every group, religion, country, city, street, there is always a bad guy.Peace.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

"But I had just offered a whole bunch of facts? That surely credited for something, especially since they have been scientifically proven?"Indeed. You're starting to learn how to truly debate. Maybe you'll last longer on this site than I first thought."This is going round in circles"As per most debates. It is very rare that one side will ever convince the other of their point of view."interesting debating with you but I think this has taken a negative bickering turn when initially it was planned to be a mature debate."Don't worry. Most debates do that. It's only natural when the opposing sides share so little."For the record, Christians don't ignore all logic and facts."Correction: Some christians don't ignore all logic and facts. You're a fine example of that."You however make accusations that are false and extreme"Don't be so sure. Hardly any of my accusations were "extreme" and were only false because you related them to yourself."which is not such a good thing when the oppisition asks you for proven statistics"You never did ask and I've only been giving you facts but you chose to dismiss them. Not my dilemma. "You seem to have met the wrong kind of Christians"You have no idea XD"which has clearly distorted your views"Not at all. Trust me."Not all Christians are bad, just the same as not all Muslims are bad, or all Jews or any other religion or belief."I know. All sides have extremes and hard-core fanatics. I try not to be extreme, but rather, in the dead-center of everything."I have met many well-mannered, kind, thoughtful and caring athiests"As have I with christians. My own mother, for example."and I am not stupid enough as to count all athiests into the same basket and insult them, just because I do not share their belief"I don't usually do that with christians. Granted, it was my mistake to assume you to be an extreme and for that, I apologize.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

No worries. Perhaps we will debate on a different topic some other time when I have become used to debating online. Take care.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

"Perhaps we will debate on a different topic some other time when I have become used to debating online."Hopefully a topic that isn't so touchy and controversial. "Take care."You too.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

I very much enjoyed reading the debate you two had, whether it was touchy or not. =P
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

"When the world tells me no, I say yes 10x louder."That must be the logic the Westboro Baptist Church uses. That would also explain why everybody hates them."If it didn't, there wouldn't be people telling them to "stfu"."That doesn't mean they're making a difference. It just means they're overstepping their limits. That one of the major problems christians have: Minding their own business.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

"That must be the logic the Westboro Baptist Church uses. That would also explain why everybody hates them"No, its the logic of someone who has something worth standing up for. A passionate faith that you probably wouldn't understand."It just means they're overstepping their limits. That one of the major problems christians have: Minding their own business."You are oozing bitterness, you know that? No, they should not mind their own business, this is not a world for athiests so we will not let you push us down. Some Christians may over step their limits, but so do athiests? Any type of person may have that problem, not just a selection of Christians.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

"A passionate faith that you probably wouldn't understand."Don't count on that. I was once religious myself. "You are oozing bitterness, you know that?"From your narrow perspective perhaps."No, they should not mind their own business"And that is why they are seen as an irritant by everyone else."this is not a world for athiests so we will not let you push us down."This is not your world either. Your beliefs are no longer the dominant.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

" I was once religious myself"Yes, I gathered as much which is why I selected the word "bitterness"."From your narrow perspective perhaps"Ok enough of the insults, we are not in pre-school."And that is why they are seen as an irritant by everyone else."Everyone else? Provide statistics and evidence that is both factual and proven before stating something as extreme as that."This is not your world either. Your beliefs are no longer the dominant."Nor did I say such a thing. I am simply stating that athiests do not have the right to push Christians down for standing up for their faiths. You wouldn't like it if a Christian came into an athiest gathering you were attending and started to tell you how irritating you all were and how your non-belief system is stupid so why should Christians take the punches and sit down? Perhaps we want to keep standing up for what we believe in, or die trying.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

"Yes, I gathered as much which is why I selected the word "bitterness"."Very arrogant aren't you?"Everyone else? Provide statistics and evidence that is both factual and proven before stating something as extreme as that."Granted, it was a broad assumption. Still doesn't change the fact that most people don't like their personal business to be interrupted by religious dogma."You wouldn't like it if a Christian came into an athiest gathering you were attending and started to tell you how irritating you all were and how your non-belief system is stupid"Since when do atheists have gatherings? On that note, when was the last time you ever saw atheists protesting outside of a church?"so why should Christians take the punches and sit down?"Like I said, they should expect it for trying to intervene in others' personal affairs."Perhaps we want to keep standing up for what we believe in, or die trying."The latter sounds more likely.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

"Very arrogant aren't you?"LOL, well thats something I've never been called before!! First time for everything I suppose."when was the last time you ever saw atheists protesting outside of a church?"The last time I went to a church was when I was a very small girl, so I am unable to answer that question."Like I said, they should expect it for trying to intervene in others' personal affairs."That is how you see it, and how they see it, but not how God sees it, and that is what is important to Christians, as well as the lives of the children that are being aborted."The latter sounds more likely"You're very negative aren't you?
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

"The last time I went to a church was when I was a very small girl"XD I highly doubt it. "but not how God sees it"Yes, but then again, nobody but a christian cares how the judeo-christian deity sees anything."You're very negative aren't you?"There's that arrogance again. You may want to think twice before assuming anything about somebody you just met online.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

You think I would lie about going to church? Gee, what kind of Christian do you take me for! Am I not appearing outspoken enough? ;)"There's that arrogance again. You may want to think twice before assuming anything about somebody you just met online."Says the one who has been calling me arrogant!!
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

"You think I would lie about going to church?"No. But it isn't within the character of most atheists to protest outside a church without good reasoning."Says the one who has been calling me arrogant!!"Yes. And by those 2 exclamation points, I can only assume you're getting fairly agitated.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

Um the commandment is "Thou Shalt Not Kill." Not "Thou shall not murder only!!"shrug This opens up another argument about their killing other things but yeah.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

Dude, all anyone anywhere of any belief system is ever going to do is campaign for what's right according to their own definition. Derp.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

How is that a problem? Is your opinion the supreme of all? I wouldn't think so, more likely you are just expressing your own self righteous conjecture. I have never witnessed a single post of yours with any substance or supporting evidence. Typical of secular arbitration.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

Don't Christians have every right to speak out against abortion. Those laws that allow abortion are similar to the laws that protect free speech. And those laws are based on "God" given rights.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

"And those laws are based on "God" given rights."Whatever helps you sleep at night.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

Could you even assemble one basic argument? Honestly your one-liners just demonstrate your severe lack of creditability.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

At least we are fighting for something we belivie in. If the mother didn't want to have the child then she should have had safe sex instead of thinking something along the lines of'it will never happen to me'. I have a 17 year old sister who is a junior in highschool who is now pregnant because she wasn't safe. She understands that this is part of the consequences of her choice. Yes, condoms break and pills don't always work, but then all the woman has to do is put it up for adoption. So,her body will get big and what not, get over it! Abortion is moraly wrong and it makes me sick to think that so many of the American people are for killing an innocent child. Have you ever seen a video of an abortion? I have. It is sick, It made me physically ill. The child was SCREAMING as it was sucked from its mother. Its limbs were TORN off its body for heavens sake! And we think this is ok?! Are you ok with China killing girls because they cannot continue the family name then?
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

"At least we are fighting for something we belivie in."Couldn't care less and neither does anyone else."If the mother didn't want to have the child then she should have had safe sex instead of thinking something along the lines of'it will never happen to me'."Too bad"I have a 17 year old sister who is a junior in highschool who is now pregnant because she wasn't safe."Tell her to abort it."She understands that this is part of the consequences of her choice."So? She can still abort it. "Abortion is moraly wrong and it makes me sick to think that so many of the American people are for killing an innocent child."XD Whatever helps you sleep at night."Have you ever seen a video of an abortion?"Yes. It was delicious."I have. It is sick, It made me physically ill."Does it hurt to be that weak?"The child was SCREAMING as it was sucked from its mother. Its limbs were TORN off its body for heavens sake!"That makes it even better :)"Are you ok with China killing girls because they cannot continue the family name then?"It's their choice, not yours. You christians have a serious problem with minding your own business.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

We are not forcing them to make our choice we merely protest their poor decisions. Is their anything wrong with that? No we don't tell you how you have to live or force you to do things rather we attempt to change your mind about what we believe are poor decisions. Your callous disregard of a child's life is challenging. Imagine if your mother had aborted you? And don't just say well then I wouldn't know. think about it deeper than that.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

"we merely protest their poor decisions"That's kind of what I meant when I referred to you as a "Minor Irritant". You're not going to change anyone's mind. No amount of rationality or evidence will change someone's mind. Christians are a grade-A example of that. "we attempt to change your mind about what we believe are poor decisions."It should have been made clear by now that nobody but you cares about what you believe. "Imagine if your mother had aborted you?"Then I wouldn't be here. I don't care. Try another argument. That one's run its course. It makes no point.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

This is the poisonous mindset atheists have. They loose the meaning of love. They choose to live as matter and disregard the spirit. We as Christians, followers of Jesus Christ live as matter and spirit. If you do not have love living in your life then where is love in your life? This is a problem and I see it in your heart. You wouldn't care if your mother aborted you? If my mother aborted me I would be deeply saddened for her. I would pray that my father forgive her and that she finds Jesus in her life. Now if I were an animal I wouldn't care because I wouldn't know, and the purpose of life is for reproduction. But I'm not. Thats what the huge difference is between you and me. I am not just a creation of God, I am a son of God. I have been resurrected into another world, because Jesus Christ resurrected me.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

XD Are you serious right now? Are really that bigoted and arrogant? Is it possible to be that deluded? You people astound me.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

We are not you people. We are sons of God. When you speak to me you speak to what is living in me. My father.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

"We are not you people. We are sons of God. When you speak to me you speak to what is living in me. My father." LOL You need help.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

yes I do and I have found it in my life. Jesus christ :)........................