azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

I don't believe in absolutist bullshit like right and wrong being universal concepts. If stealing is wrong, is stealing to feed your starving kids then also wrong? An unborn fetus is not a-fucking-living person. An unborn fetus is by all scientific fact, a parasite. Yes, it can become a human in it's own right, but so can sperm, and eggs, but they're not currently human. You could be an astronaut but guess what, you're not. That cake you're about to eat could be expired, given enough time, but guess what again, it's fucking not. It's not murder, it's not your body, and it's none of your business. If you assume you have the right to impose on others your beliefs you are then indoctrinating and acting against free will.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

I knew i was not the only one to classify a fetus as a parasite.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

It appears that folks no longer comprehend the meaning of fetus. It means little one, geniuses.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

No it does'nt Fetus means the bearing, bringing forth or hatching of young from the Latin base fe, meaning to generate, bear and most Doctors and Nurses are agreed that before a child is born it is a parasite, an organism that lives on or in another organism from which it obtains nourishment. Both of those are dictionary definitions genius.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Oh crap, not this agroment again. I would try to argue against it, but last time we tried to reach a conculson on the matter of whether or not a fetus is a parasite, we just kept going on in circles.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Let's be honest, you give as much birth to a botfly as you do a baby.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

I do believe I was the first on this site to make that statement.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

The key word is I, all what you said is your opinion, you could say the sky isn't blue, does that make it any less blue? No it doesn't. The fact is sex will produce ''HUMAN'' life, and when that life is willfully stopped, that my friend is called murder. You can say it's not murder, does not make it anything less than murder. It surprises me to see people for abortion when they are living. A living person saying it's o k to end another living person, who gives you the right to play God, end life whenever you want.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

The key word is I, all what you said is your opinion, you could say the sky isn't blue, does that make it any less blue? No it doesn't. You are confusing opinion with like, everything. The fact is sex will produce ''HUMAN'' life, and when that life is willfully stopped, that my friend is called murderNo it's not. It depends on what stage of development the fetus is in. After a certain point, it would qualify as murder. Before a certain point, it would not.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Mark once you willfully stop something from living, that is killing. Therefore if you have an abortion then you are murdering something that starts life at conception.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Mark once you willfully stop something from living, that is killingPeople kill things everyday, whether unintentionally or intentionally. I took a shower today, it was a genocide of skin cells as the hot water and soap scrubbed them off. Therefore if you have an abortion then you are murdering something that starts life at conception.Again, skin cells are considered alive too. Just because something is alive and you kill it, that does not make it immoral, as I showed in the shower example. The fetus is not a person until ~24 weeks, roughly. Therefore, there is no harm in killing it before then. It's always preferable to get an abortion sooner rather than later, of course.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

I just stated the truth about what abortion does to an unborn baby. It stops the heart. Do you think it is right or wrong to purposefully stop a baby's heart?
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Do you think it's effective to say it stops the heart? It isn't. Of course it does. Are you trying to play on my emotions? Yes. Is that manipulation to meet a certain end? Yes. Are you trying to guide me into a debate about morality and defenseless cherub-esque babies? Yeah, probably, but I'm not ignorant. Your life is worth what you make it. An unborn child has value to you because you say it does, and for no other reason does it have value or purpose.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

The fact is abortion stops a beating heart. Why do you ask me questions just to answer them yourself? Why would I play with your emotions? I've never been aware of you living in this world before tonight. It's not a manipulation tactic. It's the truth. Abortion stops a beating heart. I didn't try to guide you anywhere. I know nothing about you except for what you have revealed in this particular debate. You came here of your own volition, and you have chosen to comment here. I don't have any magical powers, and haven't sprinkled anti-social magic dust on you. Unborn children have value because God Almighty has declared it!
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Unborn children have value because God Almighty has declared it!You cannot impose your religious views on others, nor can you do it in the form of legislation. You will have to come up with another argument in opposition to abortion that does not rely on your religion. .Arguments based on religion are irrelevant, because you cannot impose your religious ideologies onto an unwilling population even if the population is majority your religion. This would be the tyranny of the majority. The founding fathers put safeguards in place to protect minorities in this country.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Wow Jawkins banning people for debating?
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

In all my debates I treat people with respect, when people don't agree with someones oponion thats fine, thats why we are here. However when discrespect starts flying out, thats when it goes overboard.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Show me a post where Mark was disrespectful
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

I am not going to debate you about whether you think he was disrespectful or not. Considering your opinion would be clearly biased. But I will tell you this, I felt he disrespected people on the debate I created and I will not stand for it.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Nah i think the real reason is because he made an argument you couldn't refute.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

That's a preposterous statement, roc. Mark was disrespectful, plain and simple.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Mark was disrespectful,I have yet to see any evidence of that.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

For whom?Look at it like this. If the parents are willing to give it up, then will most likely not be able or willing to give it a good home and upbringing. Even in the case for adoption, I don't think that anyone has any right to tell a woman that she cannot choose what to do with something which relies entirely on her to survive, within her body, affecting her body by its gestation and also posing a (slight) risk to her well-being.Abortion is a choice, and the woman has the ultimate decision. Second comes the father, third the society as a whole. I've listed them in order of how much the matter actually affects their lives.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

You are off the chart with this argument! It's irrelevant if a child is brought up in a good upbringing or not because at a certain age we all become responsible for our future and from that point forward we can no longer point the finger at somebody else. Let that be a point also that a woman shouldn't have the right to an abortion because that life won't always be dependent. It's a very immoral and frankly a cheap rationalization that's it's okay to end a life because one doesn't want to be responsible and at the time that life is completely dependent on survival. That's a very demonic thing for you to say and quite honestly if that's the way you want a society to work, then move out into a wilderness with the beasts because that is the only other society on earth where morality is not observed and responsibility for actions doesn't take place. Just don't complain when a grizzly bear mauls you just short of death because you think it was a crime for the bear to do that!
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

There's almost no element of shirking responsibility here, you're complicating the issue.A woman has the ultimate right to decide - her body, her rules, and unless it's against the law (which is what we're debating) nobody else has a say because it's none of their business.Just because it will become a life does not mean that it already is one. And if it's not a human then it's no more immoral than removing a cancer. Cancer is a bundle of living cells, the same as a zygote. Yes, it could grow up to be a human being, or, it could not survive labour, in which case an abortion would have been the best option anyway.This is all a digression. I don't care how "immoral" you think it is, you do not get to inhibit other people's actions when those actions relate to you. And perhaps you should move out into the wilderness yourself, so that you don't have to deal with such scary prospects as people who think differently, or not having your own way.Oh, and define "demonic", please.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Goddamn typos, I meant when those peoples' actions do not involve you. Sorry about that.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Really? You know you're not even worth debating with because you're nuts! You are one of those people that will go to any length to hold an argument, even if that means being irrational. "A fetus is the same as a cancer"?(That right there proves my point) Do you hear yourself talking? You should be medicated! Cancer is not a bundle of cells it's a type of cell that attaches to other cells and mutates them into other cancerous cells... It then spreads until it affects the whole body of whatever it's mutating in until the body shuts down and then dies! Does a fetus do that? Tell me... What other reason would a woman besides being raped or if her life was in danger would she want to get an abortion? There is no reason other than she doesn't want to deal with responsibility or consequences from irresponsible actions. That's not complicated! It's as simple and as true as it gets! YES I DO GET TO INHIBIT OTHER'S ACTIONS ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S MY TAX DOLLARS PAYING FOR THEM!!! AND EVEN IF MY TAX DOLLARS DON'T PAY FOR THEM I STILL DO BECAUSE IT AFFECTS ME AND OTHERS UNDER A COLLECTIVE SOCIETY! To say this is all a digression would mean you're abandoning all your own reasons of support for abortions because I'm only debating on your points you made in the first place. Excuse me why would I need to move into the wilderness when I'm not the one inciting violence here? The wilderness and the ocean are the only places where violence takes place with no consequences... Since you're the aggressor and believes rightfully so, then that's where you belong, not me!
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

All I see in your reply is;Insult... insult... insult... rant... Block capitals... insult. Nowhere have you actually produced any kind of argument. All I can say in response is that although you think you get to decide, fortunately you do not.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Of course that's what you see... You're one that wears rose-colored glasses convenient to your cause! I made plenty of arguments both of my own and against your claims... It is you who refuses to rebuttal and remain in your own little world while believing the real world revolves around you!
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

remain in your own little world while believing the real world revolves around you!Says the person that thinks there views on abortion should be law.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

I'm also not the one rationalizing either! Am I? There's nothing to rationalize about creating life it's simply right in nature retard lol!
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

How sad can create a argument without an insult.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

A serious question for you;Do you honestly not see the purile and inefficacious nature of the way you debate? Insults are best omitted when you actually want to make a point of any sort, otherwise it slaps a neon sign saying "I'm not mentally big enough to be here" on your posts, even when you make sense. I assure you this really is a question and not an insult, else I would be a hypocrite in what I've just said.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

What insults are you referring to that don't have a punch line relating to a dispute other than the ones to Cuaroc who generated those insults by making arbitrary statements that mean nothing. You're just jumping on the wagon with him now because obviously my "nature way of debating" has made you ineffectual, you can't debate against it and you feel it necessary to join forces with someone else in an attempt to experience some sort of security. And by the way my efficiency is at 92% up from 90% which is higher than yours so I'm obviously effective and you're not. I'm still waiting for you to rebuttal against my original dispute of your last claim... Don't lead away from that with garbage like this!
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

That made me giggle. You single-handedly took my efficiency down from 96% to 90%, nice try. And I did not see Cuaroc make the same criticism - I'd say that indicates that it's valid. I don't get intimidated, certainly not intellectually, and if I did, you would not be a capable adversary.I'm not gong to rebut your claim until you state it clearly, and make sure it is valid. Do that, and I'll respond.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

YOU CAN"T READ THIS? IT"S TYPED IN PERFECT ENGLISH! THERE ARE SEVERAL QUESTIONS HERE MARKED WITH A QUESTION MARK THAT YOU REFUSE TO ANSWER! INSTEAD YOU WANT TO "DIGRESS," INTO A CONVERSATION THAT DEMONIZES MY WAY OF DEBATING IN AN ATTEMPT TO MAKE IT UNPOPULAR AND FORGOTTEN. YOU DO THIS BECAUSE IT'S THE ONLY LEVEL YOU FEEL LEFT THAT YOU CAN COMPETE ON. ANSWER THE QUESTIONS AND DEBATE MY POINTS!!! IT'S UP TO YOU TO PROVE THE VALIDITY OF MY ARGUMENTS NOT ME... THAT"S HOW DEBATES WORK! Really? You know you're not even worth debating with because you're nuts! You are one of those people that will go to any length to hold an argument, even if that means being irrational. "A fetus is the same as a cancer"?(That right there proves my point) Do you hear yourself talking? You should be medicated! Cancer is not a bundle of cells it's a type of cell that attaches to other cells and mutates them into other cancerous cells. It then spreads until it affects the whole body of whatever it's mutating in until the body shuts down and then dies! Does a fetus do that? What other reason would a woman besides being raped or if her life was in danger would she want to get an abortion? There is no reason other than she doesn't want to deal with responsibility or consequences from irresponsible actions. That's not complicated! It's as simple and as true as it gets! YES I DO GET TO INHIBIT OTHER'S ACTIONS ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S MY TAX DOLLARS PAYING FOR THEM!!! AND EVEN IF MY TAX DOLLARS DON'T PAY FOR THEM I STILL DO BECAUSE IT AFFECTS ME AND OTHERS UNDER A COLLECTIVE SOCIETY! To say this is all a digression would mean you're abandoning all your own reasons of support for abortions because I'm only debating on your points you made in the first place. Excuse me why would I need to move into the wilderness when I'm not the one inciting violence here? The wilderness and the ocean are the only places where violence takes place with no consequences... Since you're the aggressor and believes rightfully so, then that's where you belong, not me!
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

IT'S UP TO YOU TO PROVE THE VALIDITY OF MY ARGUMENTS NOT ME... THAT"S HOW DEBATES WORK!I do not like insulting people over the internet, but you leave me no other choice.Small sentences for you. I do not need you to use block capitals. I can read, yes. It makes you look stupid.That is not how debates work. You misunderstand debates. I made the word "not" bold to make it stand out.When I say something, I must back it up with logic, reason or proof. The same for you. Not the other way around.Everyone who agrees that norcalkev has the correct idea of debating, vote me down. Everyone who agrees that he has in fact learned the polar opposite of this basic principle, vote me up. And norcalkev, you haven't yet responded to my challenge debate about this issue - abortion. I think everyone reading this is eager to watch us debate, just the two of us. You are very confident to say the least, and when only two people are in a debate, nobody gets "let off" for anything. You either win or lose.So, accept the debate and I'll listen to your points, so long as they have evidence. This debate is cluttered.I also recommend revising your understanding of how debates work, otherwise you would be rendered almost totally incapable before you even began.I suspect you'll try to dodge, so;Do you accept my challenge debate?<- Your response should immediately answer that question. After that, insult me for a while and get ready to debate with me using actual logic and reasoning. I don't think I need to state that you would concede defeat in refusing my challenge.By the way;" IT"S TYPED IN PERFECT ENGLISH!" That should be an apostrophe in "...it's...", not speech marks.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

I no going down this road you're leading me down! You're just playing one big game! I'll make my points again and I'll wait for you to answer! A fetus is the same as a cancer? Cancer is not a bundle of cells it's a type of cell that attaches to other cells and mutates them into other cancerous cells... It then spreads until it affects the whole body of whatever it's mutating in until the body shuts down and then dies! Does a fetus do that? Here's my evidence! Cancer Listeni/ˈkænsər/, known medically as a malignant neoplasm, is a broad group of various diseases, all involving unregulated cell growth. In cancer, cells divide and grow uncontrollably, forming malignant tumors, and invade nearby parts of the body. The cancer may also spread to more distant parts of the body through the lymphatic system or bloodstream. A zygote (from Greek ζυγωτός zygōtos "joined" or "yoked", from ζυγοῦν zygoun "to join" or "to yoke"),[1] or zygocyte, is the initial cell formed when two gamete cells are joined by means of sexual reproduction. In multicellular organisms, it is the earliest developmental stage of the embryo. In single-celled organisms, the zygote divides to produce offspring, usually through meiosis. Tell me... What other reason would a woman besides being raped or if her life was in danger would she want to get an abortion? There are you happy? I find it amazing you need factual evidence to common sense and I have every right to make an opinion backing up my claim that's how laws are created... They are first based on an opinion and it's up to others to declare the opinion false... That's where debating takes place. Answer the questions and give me factual evidence that I'm wrong Please!!! For the 3rd or forth time!!
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

You have conceded defeat, unfortunately.I hoped you would sieze this opportunity to prove yourself, but you're running and hiding. For the third or *fourth time, I'm ignoring you. I'll give you no further consideration, as you have proven yourself to be worthless in the world of debating.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

I've conceded defeat? I still have questions and points made that you are refusing to answer or dispute that I've brought up 3 times! I'm not going play your game of creative control. There is an order in how debates go about and that is questions and points made first need to be addressed first before the debate is being taken in a different direction... You're doing just the opposite so really you're the one waving a white flag here because ultimately, if you can't dispute my points than nothing said after doesn't matter and I'm not obligated to answer your questions first before mine when mine came first in order. I don't get how you think I'm conceding defeat when you haven't put up any defense for me to shirk from! If you can state one point you've made before any of my original offensive ones I will gladly dispute it or give my take on it but, anything after I'm not addressing until you defend yourself from my points against yours. You don't get to make the rules up to your convenience!"you have proven yourself to be worthless in the world of debating."I'm a political science major kid! I debate every day in a structured debate with a mediator!"I'm ignoring you. I'll give you no further consideration"Truly spoken by the defeated!"But you're running and hiding."What am I running from? lol! Please cite by cutting and pasting specifically what I'm running from.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

You're running from my debate. That debate is the only one on which I will address you, because you have completely perverted the course of progress on this one. You've tied up with so much incessant babble and copious insults that I'm not sure where we are.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

What debate are you talking about??? Re-state it if you think I've gone off in a different direction. Do it now don't waste any more time... I obviously have no clue what you're talking about so instead of sitting there hiding behind your computer screen take this next opportunity to clarify. I dare you!
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

The debate I challenged you to, which you have not yet accepted. Check your notifications.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Concerning norcalkev. This account, like many before it, is not quite a troll, but instead someone who has no place or use here. He is incapable of following the universal rules of debating, he insults those with whom he debates, and he is a plague on all of us, downvoting so much that he has run out of points with which to donvote people. As we cannot get rid of this rude fellow, I suggest that we simply boycott him. Ignore him, ignore his debates and his arguments. Hopefully he'll get tired and leave us. Is this what you're challenging me to? A hide behind your computer statement in hopes to gain some kind of high school populous recognition? I didn't even know what you were talking about because I didn't have my notifications turned on. Maybe you should be a little more specific in what you're taking about and what's the debate here? There's no debate... It's a desperate attempt of you trying to get some backing for you're insecurity because I destroyed you! I'm not going to accept to open a forum thread about me. I don't care what you think about me or anyone else. Now run along grasshopper if you can't debate my position about abortion!