azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

I'm not really convinced why Christians need to prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt. They're faith in God is for personal reasons, not to win (or lose) popularity contests.Secondly, can't that argument work both ways? Can you prove beyond reasonable doubt that God doesn't exist? As far as "logical reasons," logical absolutes exist and they:1.) are conceptual by nature, not physical,2.) are not dependent upon human minds,3.) transcend space and time.The problem with your "logical problem of evil," is that you're assuming balance can exist and be maintained without good OR without evil. The two must stay in constant equilibrium and harmony. Without evil, God wouldn't exist. This argument is false. On the other hand, the problem with your evidential form of the problem of evil is that God, once again, would not exist without evil. God helps those who help themselves - He doesn't hand everything over to us on a silver-platter. No one, not even God, is simply going to carry you through life.God is all of these things, and yet evil still exists. Why? Because He made us all with free-will. We contribute to evil, not God.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

"I'm not really convinced why Christians need to prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt. They're faith in God is for personal reasons, not to win (or lose) popularity contests."Provided faith remains in a personal domain, no justification, proof, or evidence should be required; I am in agreement here. The problem comes when such beliefs serve as grounds for initiatives, laws, or actions which have very real and tangible effects on others who may not share in them. In these situations, such beliefs should be subject to scrutiny, and require some degree of justification, proof, or evidence."The problem with your "logical problem of evil," is that you're assuming balance can exist and be maintained without good OR without evil. The two must stay in constant equilibrium and harmony. Without evil, God wouldn't exist."The "Problem of Evil" doesn't serve as proof of God's non-existence, but rather that certain popular claims of God's properties are incompatible with each other and known reality. It forces one to discount at least one of the claims that God is omni-benevolent, omnipotent, or omniscient in order to answer it (which you have done here by discarding His omnipotence). You assert that good cannot exist without evil, and that both must maintain a certain balance. Would you consider this to be a universal law? One which governs all possible planes of existence? If so, and God is subject to this universal law, He cannot, by definition, be omnipotent.Also, if God is truly the creator of the universe, and of all planes of existence, it stands to reason He is also the creator of all universal laws which govern said existence. Why make such a law to begin with? An omnipotent being should be capable of shaping the fundamental laws of the universe in anyway they saw fit. If this being is omni-benevolent as well as omnipotent, it seems contradictory they would create a universal law which not only allows evil to exist, but deems it necessary to exist. It's also paradoxical that God's existence could rely on a rule of His own creation."God is all of these things, and yet evil still exists. Why? Because He made us all with free-will. We contribute to evil, not God."What if it could be scientifically argued (and someday even proven) that free-will (as we think of it anyway) didn't actually exist?
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

"If this being is omni-benevolent as well as omnipotent, it seems contradictory they would create a universal law which not only allows evil to exist, but deems it necessary to exist."This takes care of omni-benevolent. Unless of course Dani's point is evil is proof of God's benevolence, given that it's a critical component of our exercise of free-will. This begs why he would punish us for exercising it in the first place. Certainly to the degree that the entire human race is cursed to be born in sin for one mistake of being tempted by knowledge. This seems like teaching a child about the dangers of fire by having her hold her hand over a match for a moment to see how it can hurt, vs burning the hand away altogether. All in the name of love."It's also paradoxical that God's existence could rely on a rule of His own creation."This should cover omniscient...I mean, if He knows everything, He would certainly know that!
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

It is ignorant and idiotic to think that god exist. Any other argument is completely invalid.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Atheism; I need at least some evidence before I can believe in magic.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

How about if you find yourself in the fire of Hell unable to escape, dying in the fire and frying like an eternal sausage? Will that make you believe God is in control? Probably not......So how about if you are pulled up from Hell to appear as a criminal before the Judge, and He is Jesus, and all of your sins are shown openly in front of everybody proving your guilt?....your whole life flashing not only before your own eyes, but openly in front of everybody else's eyes.......so everybody knows you are guilty and not worthy to be in Heaven? Will that make you believe? Maybe for a minute of two, but when you are cast away into the Lake of Fire, you surely will deny it all and say it's wrong for you to be left in Hell.......and when God gets what he deserves from you, to be honored as your creator, and at the name of Jesus your knees bow in the fire of Hell, and your tongue says "Jesus Christ is Lord", against your will, and then you return to your feet or whatever you feel like doing when you can only burn in Hell.....then will you believe?Maybe a little? Probably not....you will probably still say like you are saying now, IT CAN"T BE TRUE!!!! I'M DEAD AND I CAN'T EXIST!!!!! THIS CAN'T BE REAL!!!!!!!!You'll just have to wait and see, won't you, fool?
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

If god loves everyone then y does he hate gays and the bible is just a book, have you ever wondered that the one cardinal who translated it changed some things to make "god" look good
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Somebody needs to change things to make you look good, because you look like you are full of dirt.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

One thing no one ever mentions. Everyone says Jesus was fair, he healed, he was, Racist? All you Bible lovers out there, all you christians, not even half of you have ever read the Bible, and if you had, you would see that Jesus refused to teach certain people because of their ethnicity. Why only the Jews. If this truly was the son of God (God having created all men in his own image) then why so prejudiced. I'm not even going to mention the fact that God clearly doesn't exist. Just a man made thing. If a massive comit hit the earth and killed off all man kind, no one would be around to contemplate God. He is just a figment of peoples imagination. He, the mentalists imagination, offers false hope. Mankind made up religions. Check out any other religious debates, i'm sure to have had a say (recent ones) God, Religion or anything else of this sort does no good to humanity. Or any other species of animal. Islam, they slit the throats of millions of animals every year for Allah. Nice isn't it. NO! This shitey love affair all you religious people ave is stupid. And the sooner you realize that, the better.Sure, i will respect your views, If an intelligent man comes up to me and starts talking about God, i will listen, i will be polite. I just hate it when they are in your face with all the "Repent!" and "God will smite you!" It's just so ridiculous!
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

This debate presents a false dichotomy in which the only options are christian or atheism. Shouldn't it be "theism or atheism or other"?
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

The greatest reason to find any given deity unreasonable is that you can replace it with one who has lied to humanity about literally everything it says, and we wouldn't be the wiser.What makes it even weaker is that you can also replace it with a series of lies of humans or hallucinations.There is no a single prophecy in the Bible, and certainly none that have come true.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

I think it's safe to say ™ and/or a huge majority of people who identify themselves as Christians are merely people who adopted the culture they were brought in and that culture included religion. That said that big group of people do not strictly follow the bible for instance in a big city such as new york I believe it would be near impossible to find one practicing Christian who doesn't cut his hair, doesn't wear two different cloth fibers, and all the other doctrine that most Christians say they abide by so it's only the extremely fundamentalists that are true Christians if you think about it that way. So why isn't ever Christian that faithful? Because deep down all of those people have doubt and/or a sliver of acceptance about the reality of the world we live in. You simply can't live a True Christian lifestyle and not back track on a lot Rights, Liberties, luxuries, and freedoms that this world holds. Christianity is just one religion among hundreds and even in Europe they have increasingly have non-religious people become the majority when they were the country who brought the Christian religion to America in the First place and Created the Church of England to allow divorces. So to end, with the passage of time even a religion you may hold dear whether it's Christianity, Buddhism, Judaism, or Islam the world will change, grow, and become more educated to that absurdity of it all.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Religion in the past has caused many wars. It encourages racism , sexism and homophobia. It is something that gives us prejudice. It makes us hate one another. the time has come to put a stop to it.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

I find it funny how Xtians are always talking about God and the bible and Jesus and " His Truth " and etc etc as if they heard it themselves. But, lets be honest. You've never seen God. You have read a book that has been transcribed about 100 times or more into a hundred languages, back and forth and back and forth to where the real meaning (if there even WAS one) has been long gone. Okay, but not only that, I just find it so silly to have an imaginary friend past the age of say, 7. I remember, when I was 4 I had an imaginary friend. His name was Steve. My mom said she came into the living room one day, and there I was, plain as day, talking to Steve. "Who's that?" My mom asked, --- " Oh, that's Steve, my friend. " I replied. My mom couldn't see Steve, so she figured, this must be an imaginary friend. Thing is, I only kept Steve for about a year. Then I let go of him. That's what you Christian's gotta do. Let go of your imaginary friend. God doesn't save lives. People save lives. God doesn't give you money. You earn money. God doesn't patrol space, NASA does. So, get a grip and come to your senses. I am Atheist because I believe in facts, not fiction. And if you say Xtianity or the Bible is " fact ", you're wrong. Every word in the bible or in your religion is based on 'faith' which is just another word for fiction. Faith begins when fact cannot be found.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Have you even read the Bible? Clearly you don`t understand the practices of religion and you argue that there is no truth about it wherein religion does not revolve only on facts. Its teachings help us put ourselves in our place. Keep in mind that some people live in faith . You just stereotype Christians because you don`t understand their practices.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

You are atheist because you believe you have the right to exist outside of the fire of Hell, and if you keep on insisting you have that right you are in for an eye opener you won't like..in fact, you will like it less then than you do now, because now you have some comforts outside of Hell.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Are you Christian?
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

I'm Christian and very religious, but if the description of this argument is the qualifying factor, I'm going with Atheism. God isn't Christian.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

I'm sad to see the way this turned out. With not so little respect and so much spamming. I choose atheism over a Christianity because their is not enough evidence to soothe my curiosity. Christianity raises too many questions that it never answers.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Oh hogwash. You have decided you have the right to exist outside of the fire of Hell, so your curiosity is dead.......or it's only going to be satisfied by the fire of Hell, however you want to say it.You decided you have the answers, and the answer cannot be satisfactory, and that's good enough for you since you believe you have the right to exist outside of the fire of Hell.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Christianity: belief in rape, genocide, hell fire, unscientific claims, superstition, eternal torture, pedophilia, incest, matricide, infanticide, bestiality, talking donkeys, talking snakes, etcAtheism: the rejection of these claims based on logic, observation, and common sense
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

You are committing your own suicide, and that is a scientific fact. Watch, I can prove it. Go look in the mirror and there's your proof.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Atheism is when a fool says in his heart, "there is no God", and believes they have the undeniable right to exist outside of Hell.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Did i also mention that christianity condones slavery? If jot I'm sorry
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

No one ever said science is PERFECT. That's the difference between Religion and Science, Science admits it doesn't have all the answers while Religion is SO dogmatic enough to not even recognise FACTS. And even just what TRUTH really stands for.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Can you recognize the fact that you are making a stupid statement in ignorance here?
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

I find most religions absolutely ridiculous and illogical, the only people who follow them are those who were brainwashed in childhood and really have no individual thought process. Most of the followers at least. Then there are theists who will twist ANY logic to fit their views. They're intelligent ones that you have to watch out for ;)I'm not an atheist by any means, but I'd rather call myself an atheist than a Christian. It allows for more logic in my mind.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Well atheism is a religion so basically you just called yourself illogical and ridiculous.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

... Can you not read?I said in my debate I'm not atheist. I said I was agnostic. I also said MOST religions. I'm not a religious person at all. I call myself agnostic because it is the easiest way to describe how I feel about religion. You are obviously the ridiculous one for not properly reading my argument. lol
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

I don't believe in religion either but I call myself spiritual. I had so many argues going on at that time, perhaps I did falter and not read it correctly. Big deal. I see where you are coming from, okay.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Eh, Atheism is a pretty cool guy. Makes my logic work and doesn't afraid of anything.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Atheism may work for you right now but in the grand scheme of things, it gets you no where. There is a better option and that is Christianity.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Well my understanding is, what with how most Christians work, considering what their messiah did, Jesus'll forgive me for all of my sins. Including ignorance. So if the Christian god turns out to be true, then I'll be peachy. Even more so if it's the Mormon rendition, and you know, them mormons are dedicated people.So why fret so much on aligning myself with any one given religion when the 'correct one' has me covered anyways? Gee, I sure hope it isn't Islam. I am so fucked if it's Islam.Ah, but my point. Logic is important. Logic in everything, not just in some things. Evidence is as evidence is, and faith is as faith is, but as far as what I believe, I tend to want to hold my faith in people. See. I know they exist. Like, you know, because I can reach out and pinch the cheek of a person. Can't really do that with a god. I mean hey, maybe he is real, but if that dick doesn't want to come down and have a beer with us, he should be ready for people to be a little ignorant, eh? That is, if he exists. See. That's the thing.You can't really use fear against people who have logic. That's the point. We don't fear shit we can't prove or disprove. We fear shit we know.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Religion is... To use Christianity as an example (I dont mean to offened anyone), was created by the Roman's as a way of controling people. If you have 200 thousand supersitious people roiting accross the empire what do you do. You exploit their weakness, their naivity in beliving anything. Then you do some fucking research, and plot your own religion around historical event's. Such as the birth of Jesus, he was a very, very religious man. But he was still human. So all they needed to do was change the facts, and because there was no internet of research sites back then, no one could contradict the theory and so thousands of people start obaying law's. Beliving that if they do not, a "God" will punish them.Air1
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

As a matter of fact Christianity is often cited as one of the reasons for the downfall of Rome, it caused divisions because many Conservative Romans did not want to give up their old gods. 200 thousand, not a very high number in an Empire that boasted 60 million...
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

You started your argument out completely wrong. Christianity isn't a religion like atheism is. And the Bible was written to give man a book of wisdom and guidelines on how to live. You must have no understanding of the New Testament and or the new convenant. Jesus was spiritual and not religious. He walked this earth in human form. Jesus is the Father, the Son and the Holy Ghost - the Trinity. God will come back with his wrath. There is no escaping that truth.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

So, you remember Adam and Eve right ? What nationality where they, what skin colour, what eye colour, what hair colour, even if you dont know. There is no way that they could reproduce enough people for the entire world.How could they make Black, Coloured, White people ?How could they get redhead's, blonde's, black head's, brunette's ?How could they get people with green, blue, brown, copper, and a million other eye colour's ?Tell me that.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

It is obvious that Adam and Eves children had children and so on while they laid with different races and it created the races we have now. You don't have to have the same races to produce the same God can change how the baby will look like and how it will be formed while it is in the womb.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Yes, God can make a person's eye color different, hair, etc. It's all quite simple and God's plan is quite complex.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Okay if he can change eye colour and skin colour. Can he stop suffering and pain, can he feed starving people, stop murderers. If he is almighty then sure he could. But does he ?
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

He can do anything He wants but if He did what you are asking, then it would be impossible for His prophecy to be fulfilled. You see, man is going to live with his free will and God wants us to CHOOSE HIM not because He is perfect to us but because we love Him and we love Him for the sacrifice on the cross - the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit (the Trinity). We are called to worship Him. You see, if you accept Him as Lord and Saviour, there is a peace He gives the believer to endure this earth even if it means life or death - until His return or we die. Either way, He is coming back to rescue those who have been faithful and those who put away the things of the earth to be HIS disciple.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

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Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Sin entered into the world and that is when everything changed. LOL, even the animals were vegetarians long ago. Everything about man changed once sin entered, even the height we grow to, the lifespan, all of it. It shouldn't surprise you just how simple it is that sin changed the race of man just as it changed physical attributes. Sin touched EVERY gene of man. We have different languages because God scattered language at the tower of Babel. People began to group themselves when God scattered man throughout the earth. It may be impossible to tell what our original color was. All of this is contrary to what matters and that is that we can all have immortal bodies when Christ returns, if we only believe in Him.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

See, you really agreed and you should have just stayed with supported as one day you will be wishing you had.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

The idea of the trinity was invented by the Catholic church as was Jesus' birthday.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

I'd like to point out how few disputs there are on the Christian side, that's cuz free minded people dont need to convince other's. We know that there isn't a god, and that its up to us to make our lives.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Yes it is up to you to make your own decision. You were given free will.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

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Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Glad we can agree on something. ; ) That wasn't so hard. : )
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Dont take me the wrong way, im completely open minded. I'm just looking for proof before i convert ot anything. Anyway we can debate about this another day. Thanks for the debate man, your a good Opponent :)
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

But I am a woman, lol. And anytime. I enjoyed the debate as well and hope to hear from ya soon. We can be an ally and not have to see eye to eye. I will send you a request.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

So you just want people to agree with you? How more narcissistic and self-centred can you get?
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Then stop trying to change us..............................................
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Not trying to change you at all. Just giving my Honest opinion.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Simply because it'll annoy the author .
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

ever since recorded history weve believed in sky spirits for which no evidence exists at all.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

religious people are always using the same argument: you cant prove he doesn't exist!!!!you CANNOT disprove a negative. meaning, you cant prove something is not there,which already is not there.