azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

You may not have stated you are offended, but you acted as though you were, as well as calling debating 'harassment.' I still want to know why you think all Christians are the same so you'd rather spend an eternity in Hell. It's like saying all Muslims are terrorists.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

I never acted as though I was offended, you projected this emotion onto me.If Christianity is true, then your heaven would just as bad as any hell I can think of. So, I might as well choose the one that has someone interesting to talk to.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

If Christianity was true, would you seriously subject yourself to pain and torment simply because you can't stand the sight of Christians being kind to one another?
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

If Christianity were true, there would be no difference.-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

If you knew anything about Christianity, you would know the obvious fact that there is quite a large difference between Heaven and Hell.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

YOUR Christian heaven would be as bad as any hell to me. --------------------------------------------------------------------
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

And why's that? I don't see how you could experience anything negative in Heaven?
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

Of course not, YOU'RE christian. To you, it would be great. To me, it couldn't possibly be.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

I'm sorry, but you seem to think that there's negativity in Heaven, such as being annoyed at a particular sort of person. How could it be bad to you if it doesn't make you feel any bad emotion?
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

You see, this is the semantics of heaven. You won't know what heaven includes untill you get there. Assuming your God is consistent in the way he opperates in heaven as he does on earth, heaven would be a hell for persons such as myself. If I'm not able to feel "bad" emotions in heaven, then by your definition, heaven happens when your freedom is taken. This is not heaven to me.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

So you think burning forever in pits of fire and being denied even water... is more freedom than not having negative emotions and being around people who are only nice to you?
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

Again, you're making assumptions of heaven and hell. These assumptions are un-backed by any evidence. But yes, there is more freedom in hell given your description. At least in hell I can choose to enjoy the sensation of thirst, in heaven I am only allowed joy and a joy free of choice is hollow. It is an illusion. Trees are happy, only because they can't choose sadness, but can a tree ever be happier than man? Of course not, it has no way to be.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

Again, you're making assumptions of heaven and hell. These assumptions are un-backed by any evidence.Now you've gone back to the debate over whether or not Hell and Heaven existed. If they did, can you name ONE theological source that states Hell is better than Heaven?
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

That's not what I'm saying at all. You've totally ignored the meat of my argument so you can bitch about a side note. ALL theological sources involving heaven and hell are wrong. Every one of them. So, it doesn't really matter if they say heaven is better than hell or vice versa.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

FacepalmsRather than just arguing over the existence of the two, how about you just assume that they are real. OK?
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

FacepalmWhen I said "At least in hell I can choose to enjoy the sensation of thirst, in heaven I am only allowed joy and a joy free of choice is hollow. It is an illusion. Trees are happy, only because they can't choose sadness, but can a tree ever be happier than man? Of course not, it has no way to be.", that WAS assuming heaven and hell exist. You've ignored this twice now. I even TOLD you that you missed it my last post, yet you went ahead and ignored it again anyway. You're an idiot.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

Do you feel the need to resort to personal attacks simply due to your lack of understanding of how bad Hell would be if it existed?
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

I called you an idiot not to offend you, but because you are an idiot in a very factual manner. And I suppose you're an authority on imaginary realms?
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

No, but if this is a theological debate then why bring in facts over whether it actually exists? What I've been trying to say is that according to what's in Hell, why would you think it's better than Heaven? You haven't actually answered me, only told me what you think Hell would be like, not how the scriptures define it.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

I mentioned it didn't exist as a side note and then went directly into my argument which very much assumed hell's existence. YOU'RE the won who got all hell bent (punny =p) over it.I already told why I would prefer hell. I've said it several times in several ways, but one in particular that you should definitely know because it's in the very post that I've told you now 3 times to go back to.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

I am aware of that, but you aren't talking about what Heaven or Hell would be if it existed.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

The way I see heaven and hell, hell would be better, Heaven is a dictatorship under an egotistical "God" who demands constant praise and enforces insane rules. Hell, on the other hand, has interesting persons, the freedom to sin and the choice to feel bad. You can't really be happy if you can't also choose to be sad.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

Ok then, but do you actually know what it feels like to be on fire?
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

Do you actually know what it's like to be in hell?-------------------------------------------------------
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

Do you actually know what it's like to be in hell?------------------------------------------------------- I notice you haven't answered the simple question...
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

I noticed YOU haven't answered the simple question AND have failed to understand my answer. There's no reason to suggest that earthly fire is any equivalent to hell fire, if hell even uses fire. You'd have to go to hell to actually know what it's like. So, have you been to hell?
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

In the legendary words of comedian Denis Leary: Sin is in.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

I'm pretty sure when Denis said that he was referring to the fact that everyone sins and no one can stop it so he was just restating the fact that was already their in a more clever appraoch.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

Doesn't matter anyway. Neither exist.The minimum length for an argument is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

We only have one life. I am not going to spend it preparing for an "after-life" that might not even exist. The fact that I do not believe in God gives me a nice warm spot in Hell anyway. Life is boring without desire, science, lust... Following the Church's rules will sometimes go against our human nature. I probably will sin in the future. Sometimes I will regret it. Sometimes I will not.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

You obviously don't get it, life isn't about having fun all the time. It is about proving if you're a good person the fact that you say you will sin in the future just shows all of us you admit that you will do bad in the future and you won't stop it. Just because you don't believe in God doesn't mean you have to result to being the worst person in the world just because you know there isn't an afterlife.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

You obviously don't get it, life isn't about having fun all the time.I don't believe I said that life was about having fun. I surely don't believe that either.It is about proving if you're a good person the fact that you say you will sin in the future just shows all of us you admit that you will do bad in the future and you won't stop it. I probably did not explain myself very well. Sin is an action viewed to be “bad” in the eyes of a God. I am not religious. As a result, I will not follow your God’s laws. Therefore, the event “sinning” is possible. However, I will follow society’s laws and principles: freedom, respect, equality and fraternity *As much as I would love to believe that there is an afterlife, I am still not sure. Life is then not worth taking the risk...
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

I'd go to hell rather than heaven coz. hell is a hot place 0or so I've heard and so heaven should be a cold place being the opposite of hell!!! I hate cold places, as compared to hot places so I'd love going to heaven if I had a choice!!!;););););)
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

You just contridicted yourself and said that you would love to go to hell, and then you said you would love to go to heaven if you had a choice? But im guessing it is a typo and you would like to go to hell because our tagged as "Hell" which is fine since weather is all that matters and torment for all your life is fine as long as its warm down there.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

Get in the trash. Learn what the debate is about. Quit contradicting yourself, it makes you sound dumb
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

I hate cold places, as compared to hot places so I'd love going to heaven if I had a choice!!!correction hell. not heaveni'd love going to hell if i had a choice.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

hey! baby satan! i hope you have a nice warm place in hell for me!
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

I will be the one enjoying myself up there while i watch you work your butt off to feed the fires of heaven. While you get whipped and be told the words of God.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

do you know the words of god? truly? or are you following some pastor who reads form a supposed "magic book"? tell me that
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Candyland

hey sure!!! candyland sounds good too. I'd go there if there are no such things as heaven or hell!!!;););););)
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

Heaven ^^ Who in the world would actually WANT to choose hell? Unless you're a person who thinks Earth is hell. Then I can understand that. But I still rather go to heaven.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

PLEASE HEAR ME OUT!!!! I HOPE THIS CHANGES YOUR MINDS ABOUT HELLWho would want to go to hell you die like every second and you scream as you melt from extreme heat......hell's doors are very wide meaning most of the people in this world are more then likely to go to hell and heaven's door are slim because maybe 2 out of 10 people are going to heaven. more people are going to hell because humans are stupid, selfish, greedy and a lot more. we just don't get it........all the possessions and money you have or the nice cars WON'T MATTER when YOU DIE OK for the most part our life span is around 75-80 well that seem like a lot but think when you die you spend your life in heaven or in hell FOREVER it is hard to imagine how long that is and once you go to heaven or hell you stay there. There is no second chance its not like GOD is going to SAY "oh this guy has been there for a thousand years I think he LEARNED HIS LESSON" NO you are going to live there for a GAZILLION GOOGLES if that is even how many years. ALL THOSE NICE THINGS WONT GO WITH YOU......AND even though you go to church and THINK you believe in god with all your heart and read the BIBLE that is NOT GOING TO CUT IT you have to BELIEVE in GOD with your ALL YOUR MIND, HEART, SOUL AND LIFE. YOU have to inspire people that he exists read the bible and tell other people quotes read a lot every day don't be selfish or greedy help others. I hope reading this has inspired you to change or inspire others. Heaven is like earth but better no pollution or global warming no violence, criminals, or any other bad things, you get to reunite with family members if they go to heaven. ALSO IN THE REVELATIONS IS SAYS PEOPLE WITH THE MARK OF THE BEAST WILL SUFFER SO BEWARE OF THE BEAST DON'T get HIS MARK "IF ANYONE HAS INSIGHT, LET HIM CALCULATE THE NUMBER OF THE BEAST, FOR IT IS MAN'S NUMBER. his NUMBER IS 666." REVELATIONS thank you for reading this.....and good luck to you...may GOD BLESS YOU!!!!! I MYSELF WILL DO THE SAME WE ARE ALL BROTHERS AND SISTERS IN GODS EYES SO HELP EACH OTHER OUT,..... AND NO FATHER IS AS GOOD AS OUR LORD
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

Who would want to go to hell you die like every second and you scream as you melt from extreme heat......hell's doors are very wide meaning most of the people in this world are more then likely to go to hell and heaven's door are slim because maybe 2 out of 10 people are going to heaven. more people are going to hell because humans are stupid, selfish, greedy and a lot more. we just don't get it........all the possessions and money you have or the nice cars WON'T MATTER when YOU DIE There is no hell or heaven. Those are concepts invented to sell a religion to you. They are ideas designed to comfort you. Your possessions won't matter because once you die, your existence ends forever.AND even though you go to church and THINK you believe in god with all your heart and read the BIBLE that is NOT GOING TO CUT IT you have to BELIEVE in GOD with your ALL YOUR MIND, HEART, SOUL AND LIFE. YOU have to inspire people that he exists read the bible and tell other people quotes read a lot every day don't be selfish or greedy help others.This is dogma. Authorities live in luxury because you are taught to believe so much in a lie that gives them wealth.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

There is no hell or heaven. Those are concepts invented to sell a religion to you. They are ideas designed to comfort you. Your possessions won't matter because once you die, your existence ends forever.yeah sure just wait until Jesus,our lord and savior comes back when the time is right and comes for all of the people who believed in him all along!!!!!This is dogma. Authorities live in luxury because you are taught to believe so much in a lie that gives them wealth.*I do agree with you on this one but he tells us to help the poor and give them some possessions in a cheerful way and then you forget about it.learned about that from yesterday.FINE whatever don't believe in this and when Jesus comes for us you will be one them with the mark of the beast and you can tell me how it is down there. unless you start believing in this then hopefully I'll meet you up in heaven. May God bless your soul!!!!
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

yeah sure just wait until Jesus,our lord and savior comes back when the time is right and comes for all of the people who believed in him all along!!!!!He won't. He died, remember? If you die on a cross, your existence is ended. There is no resurrection.FINE whatever don't believe in this and when Jesus comes for us you will be one them with the mark of the beast and you can tell me how it is down there. unless you start believing in this then hopefully I'll meet you up in heaven. If there is a god, and it is a god worthy of worship, then I need not believe in it or worship it. My actions here will have been righteous enough. If that god is benevolent, then I never need fear anything like hell.You have been mislead by illogical dogma. A benevolent god doesn't send people to hell. A just god doesn't require worship.May God bless your soul!!!!I don't have a soul, as it were.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

I believe the debate was over whether you'd rather go to Heaven or Hell, not over the existence of the two.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

I believe the debate was over whether you'd rather go to Heaven or Hell, not over the existence of the two.If we must accept the existence of the Christian version of either, then the obvious choice is hell, because heaven is where all criminals will be who accepted Christ on their deathbeds, and hell is where all the independent and moral characters would be who chose to live good lives instead of playing it safe and giving up personal responsibility.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

Sorry, but does that mean that Heaven only consists of convicted criminals whereas Hell consists of all the good people who follow God's word only not in a religious manner?
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

Sorry, but does that mean that Heaven only consists of convicted criminals whereas Hell consists of all the good people who follow God's word only not in a religious manner?Heaven would be full of criminals who converted at the last moment, and individuals without morality who only act according to the laws of a book.Hell would be full of the rest.I don't want to live in North Korea for all eternity.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

Heaven would be full of criminals who converted at the last moment, and individuals without morality who only act according to the laws of a book.Of course it would.I don't want to live in North Korea for all eternity.So you're saying, you would rather be in a place full of people who also murdered, raped, etc as well as being tortured for eternity?
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

So you're saying, you would rather be in a place full of people who also murdered, raped, etc as well as being tortured for eternity?Hell would be full of righteous individuals.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

I question your belief in that one cannot believe in God and be a good person? And that it's not possible for a criminal to not repent and go to Hell?
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

I question your belief in that one cannot believe in God and be a good person? And that it's not possible for a criminal to not repent and go to Hell?No, I argue that one who sees god as a source of morality has no moral sense himself. I also argue that a criminal will tend to think with his interests at heart, meaning that he would sooner repent on his deathbed for heaven than stay true to himself and go to hell.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

So... even if someone helps the poor, is a good person etc, but also a christian does that mean that they are actually an immoral, evil person?Also, say you tried to rob a bank and got shot. You were dying and you remembered Jesus, etc. Would YOU repent?
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

So... even if someone helps the poor, is a good person etc, but also a christian does that mean that they are actually an immoral, evil person?They are amoral if and only if they get their morality from a book instead of their moral sense. They are immoral if those written morals are widely agreed upon as immoral.Being a Christian isn't relevant, it is a matter of getting your morality from a book that is.Also, say you tried to rob a bank and got shot. You were dying and you remembered Jesus, etc. Would YOU repent?No. I have standards.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

They are amoral if and only if they get their morality from a book instead of their moral sense. They are immoral if those written morals are widely agreed upon as immoral.Being a Christian isn't relevant, it is a matter of getting your morality from a book that isI see, so what your saying is it's only people who are moral because of a Holy book they follow, not Christians or Muslims in general, yea?No. I have standards.So how do you know that criminals on THEIR deathbeds wouldn't do the same as you?
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

I see, so what your saying is it's only people who are moral because of a Holy book they follow, not Christians or Muslims in general, yea?Correct.So how do you know that criminals on THEIR deathbeds wouldn't do the same as you?Criminals are selfish and tend to lie for personal gain. Think Machiavelli.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

Correct.I see.Criminals are selfish and tend to lie for personal gain. Think Machiavelli.Wait, I'm just a little bit confused. Do you mean that a criminal would lie and repent, etc even if they don't care in their heart? Because that wouldn't get them into Heaven if they were lying.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

Wait, I'm just a little bit confused. Do you mean that a criminal would lie and repent, etc even if they don't care in their heart? Because that wouldn't get them into Heaven if they were lying.They would do whatever was in their self-interest.If liars don't make it to heaven, then no one gets there, because the professed faithful could be said to be liars, they only worship god for fear of him and hell.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

They would do whatever was in their self-interest.If liars don't make it to heaven, then no one gets there, because the professed faithful could be said to be liars, they only worship god for fear of him and hell.The only way for them to get into Heaven and to no lie about it all is to truly repent, and to actually turn away from their way of life even if they were dying or not. If it's just because they didn't want to die but would no sooner go and commit another crime then they aren't really repenting aren't they?
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

The only way for them to get into Heaven and to no lie about it all is to truly repent, and to actually turn away from their way of life even if they were dying or not. If it's just because they didn't want to die but would no sooner go and commit another crime then they aren't really repenting aren't they?As I said, I don't believe anyone truly repents for god (except maybe children). God is a fearsome monster that keeps people in line through fear. People don't prostrate themselves in front of something beloved, but that which they are intimidated by.Children have no concept of this yet.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

As I said, I don't believe anyone truly repents for god (except maybe children).If no one truly repents, then they wouldn't be in Heaven.People don't prostrate themselves in front of something beloved, but that which they are intimidated byNot everyone worships God out of fear. Those who do do not really love God.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

If no one truly repents, then they wouldn't be in Heaven.Correct.Not everyone worships God out of fear. Those who do do not really love God.As I said, they do not love god, but fear him. They are so terrified that they beg mercy, they plead with him, they bow before him, and consider themselves as worthless impure to him.
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Heaven

As I said, they do not love god, but fear him. They are so terrified that they beg mercy, they plead with him, they bow before him, and consider themselves as worthless impure to him.Umm you sound like you're saying that people ONLY worship God out of fear, not like loving a father?
Debate: To Hell or to Heaven?????
Side: Hell

Umm you sound like you're saying that people ONLY worship God out of fear, not like loving a father?Correct. If people thought god was a loving father figure, they would disagree with him (dogma) openly, they would question him (dogma) openly, and hell wouldn't even exist in the theology because a loving father couldn't torture his children. They would not be subservient, and prostrating. These are acts of fear.