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Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

This man is correct. Russia and China would likely stand a chance, but America would still over power them. They may over power us in Education, but what is Education but the same materials being used since Einstein and other people from the way way past. Everything is the same, if anything, they would consider the same technological booms the U.S has had in the past. China and Russia both use weapons that were first published in the Vietnam war and hell, even before that. The fact is, China and Russia both don't have the correct technology to create weaponry far superior to the U.S. If it came to Nuclear war, i'd say no body wins. if it came down to a nuclear war, it would come down to who lived longer. I'd say the U.S would live at least 30 minutes or more longer then russia and china. (Because Nuclear weapons are too destructive to let anyone survive, so in other words, Russia and China would be destroyed by the U.S's nuclear power, and then 30 minutes later, the U.S would be destroyed.) then the leading military would be someone like England or Egypt or some unknown country... So either way i support the U.S. Not because i love this place and im proud to be an American... But because the facts that are in front of everyones face, such as the U.S haven't lost a war since Vietnam, and even then, we didn't lose... we left because the point to even be there was to destroy Communism, Not to be at war, and the whole war came down to a wrong Observation. So the U.S would win.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

I suggest Australia because we all know what they say about australia
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

"I dare someone to name a country that could likely defeat the US in war."China.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

Along with Russia, probably the only country that would stand a chance. America would still likely win though. Superior technology, larger navy, larger airforce, and a larger budget to play around with. China have nothing but men, and you'd be amazed how quickly they go down after a couple of bullets.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

USA's actually rather worried about China's large amount of spies stealing top secret information from the US Government, you'ld be surprised at how effective China's intelligence network is, the longer the U.S holds of war the faster China is catching them up on technology, including the navy and aircraft. And even though the U.S has a large war budget it also makes them several trillion pounds in debt, China is one of the biggest trading partners with the U.S and if a war started between the two it would be America that would be hit harder economically.soldiers do go down surprisingly quickly after a couple of bullets, which is good for China as they have more of them.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

USA's actually rather worried about China's large amount of spies stealing top secret information from the US Government, you'ld be surprised at how effective China's intelligence network is, the longer the U.S holds of war the faster China is catching them up on technology, including the navy and aircraft.This debate is who would win in current state, I believe. If the two went to war right now, China would not have American technology.And even though the U.S has a large war budget it also makes them several trillion pounds in debt, China is one of the biggest trading partners with the U.S and if a war started between the two it would be America that would be hit harder economically.In a state of war, no. America would be able to write off $800 billion of debt, for a start. If not war, then what are you suggesting, a trade embargo? That would be suicidal for China. The Yuan would have to be decoupled from the Dollar, and the dollar would plummet in value. While this would lead to some sort of inflationary crisis for the US, China's situation would be worse. With the Yuan's value increasing, Chinese imports would increase in value, making homegrown products far more appealing to Americans. As a result, the entire relationship would flip, with American services and products becoming more appealing to Chinese business. America would start exporting to China, and China would become dependent on America. This is why China will probably never stop buying American debts until it can buy no more.soldiers do go down surprisingly quickly after a couple of bullets, which is good for China as they have more of them.True. I guess it's a good job that America has more of everything else then.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

you forgot that china has machinery, and Factories. not just men. also they know how to use their machines to make everything you buy at wal-mart.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

That has already happened my friend. We lost the war against the North Vietnamese because we lost support back at home and the North Vietnamese were better accumulated to the terrain and effective in guerilla warfare. We also didn't win the Korean War because of the support they got from the Chinese - although that one came to a stalemate.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

well the only reason it came to a stalemate is because congress and truman denied macarthur's request to invade china. ( come to think of it this entire thread probably wouldn't exist if truman had re-thought his choice, but alas the usa was plagued with diehard communists at the time. Such a shame if you really think about it, the vietnam war woulg never have happened communism would have virtually ceased and America would be even more powerful than it is today.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

This has already happened my friend. We lost the war against the North Vietnamese because we lost support back at home. The North Vietnamese were more familiar with the terrain and effective at Guerilla warfare and had the support of the Chinese.We also didn't win the Korean war. That one came to a stalemate because they also had the support of the Chinese.We got very lucky in the war against Japan. If we had lost the battle of Midway, things could of gone very differently.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

Not a chance. China has to steal advanced technology to modernize their military and anyone who has been watching should know that there is no nation on earth that has the power to defeat the United States on the battlefield. These fantasies persist mainly among the ignorant who have no clue about the true nature and level of US military power.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

I would say china... They have army about one billion five hundred million so that is way more than america have population so also if we did even stand a chance America would have to kill about 250 people each... So Chinese would have the leg upAnd if china helped North Korea in a war America would lose ... Not fast as if it was nk vs us it wouldn't take horrible long for America to win but that's about it.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

Hb russia and china and mexico going to war with US and others then we may lose
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

Easy...the usa cannot possibly in a 100 years hope to win a war against china...especially not on chinese soil.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

I think you'll find it's the other way round. China has nothing but men. Men are useless against bombers. All having more men means is that you're easier to kill in large numbers.Of course, in a land war, China would probably win. The US wouldn't be so stupid as to invade China when the US has the world's most advanced airforce, and China still uses 1950s technology.China isn't the juggernaut it's made out to be.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

The United States would bomb the hell out of China to the point of non existence. You have to go on historic facts, not future predictions. The only war that was a question of who won was Vietnam. We did not lose that war, we pulled out because there was no reason to be there in the first place. It took new political influence to get that message across and bring our boys home. We lost 58,000 men in Vietnam. The Vietnamese or NVA lost 2.3 million. The civilian loss was around 1.3 million. This was back in 1960's and early 70's. This is 2013 and the weapons and bombs we would drop on China or North Korea would blow them into the next year. China has 4.5 million souls in their military. The United States has 2.5 million, so its a 2:1 ratio. Remember, we will not be fighting this war on the ground like we did in Vietnam. We will be utilizing our Air force, Navy, Marines and Army airmen to find selective targets and destroy. China is a very large mass of land. Those 4.5 million soldiers are spread all around China, leaving huge gaps in their defense. We will not go to war with China because we owe them so much money. Money they will never see if we go to war with them. If they aided North Korea then it would be a show stopper for their industrial and commercial imports and exports which has made that country so powerful. Korean People's Army has over 9 million soldiers who can be activated into military service. That is a lot but remember that South Korea or The Republic of Korea Armed Forces has a little over 4.5 million so again the ratio is still around 2:1. We also have allies who would aid in the invasion and campaign against North Korea and or China. Our weapons are just to powerful and high tech to beat. Is what it is..........
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

And all that technology is made in China or made in Korea, they are much smarter than Americans and nobody knows the true military arsenal of China. I would stop being so GUNG-HO about America this and America that, and hope you will never have to find out what would happen.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

think about all the weapons the government has that they dont want us knowing about or just turn loose abunch of us rednecks on them. i say we'd kick their ass...again
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

The USA would easily win a debate against north Korea... It is almost or probably more than 5 times North Korea's size. Not to mention that the military in the US is almost that many times as large compared to North Korea.They'd be lucky to get through 3 weeks.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

That is what we thought when we entered the first Korean War. I can almost promise you, China would rush to the North's aid the first chance they got. But if it was just a straight up fight, us against the North, yes, we would win. No contest.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

There are a few problems with what you said.First, we have enough nukes to turn all of North Korea into a barren wasteland easily, so the first Korean War wouldn't be a good indicator of how we would do now. Also, our military is much stronger than it used to be, so there's that.Second, China would be incredibly stupid to join in a war against the US as they get most of their raw materials from Australia, an ally of the US.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

"so the first Korean War wouldn't be a good indicator of how we would do now" for your information the USA already had nuclear weapons in 1950 to 1955. USA used it in japan during world war 2, but you probably never heard of world war 2 anyways. also china did not have nuclear weapons to retaliate back in 1950 to 1955. Therefore, it would make less sense to use it now.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

However, Australia was America's ally during the Korean War in the 1950's. The Chinese were still able to push us back.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

yes they would run up and help the norths because they are allies and they would help but like you said if it was just the us and north korea than we would win
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

USA could take over North korea any time if they felt like if they really wanted to.. The government is probably laughing at north korea because even if they did shoot a nuke USA would blow that nuke or those nukes in pieces not even half way in the ocean to cali.. then kill everyone in North Korea cuzz they ugly small dicked yellow people from the 10th dimension
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

Actually, North Korea has the fifth largest army in the world and the size of one's country doesn't make any difference. Look at Japan. Look what they did to China and to us during World War II. True, we won that war, but luck played a big part with that also. Also, look at North Vietnam and see how much bigger the United States is next to them. We lost that war.It's not so much North Korea, but China we would have to worry about. We would have North Korea beat hands down. You have to examine your history and learn from what had transpired when we were at war with them during the 1950's. We had North Korea beat, but the Chinese didn't like us being that close to there borders and they threw everything they had at us and beat us back - saving North Korea.I do believe that China is getting tired of being North Korea's benefactor though. It all depends on how China would handle the situation once we had North Korea beaten. Would they allow Korea to be unified, or would they send their troops across the border at us again? Going to war with the Chinese would be extremely dangerous and they know this as well. The best thing would be to have the North Korean leader deposed and install a new leader in favor of Korean unification under South Korean leadership who would then strengthen the new unified country and help feed the starving people who are living in the north. We (the United States) could then agree to pull out our military once the new unified Korea was under South Korean leadership.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

Because no one supported vitenam if they did we would've won
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

USA has better technology and the scientists are creating th stark industry and the iron man suit.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

Maybe, that's too much TV... and one little thing, where does the most of those USA scientist come from?
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

The US scientists come from our many Universities across the country. If you are implying that our scientists are of foreign origin, you would be incorrect. We have plenty of gifted minds right here in the US. The fact that most foreign scientists come here to be educated should tell you something.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

Im sorry north korea but like the U.S.A is the bomb and if u get close to us we will drop a bomb on ur asses
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

Im sure you have a valid arguement, based on your choice of wwords.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

Money and power is our options there's are being crazy
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

Okay, in MW3, we go to war with Russia, they realize that we kicked their asses, and we came to peace..... I think North Korea would shit their pants!
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

China would not protect NK, they have a history of staying out of wars. Even if NK succesfully nuked the US, the US would remove them from the map with OUR nukes.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

Speaking from a neutral point of view there are two people in wars those who start them and those who profit by them. A lot of wars start for one main reason...Greed and how it works in the modern world is the nation wants something that another nation has, they finds a reason to be enemies with them under a different guise, invades, wins, puts a puppet government in place who they can work with and takes the resources for themselves. When it comes to North and South Korea although the North is a totalitarian state but it sees the southern neighbour for its resources and industrial might and its potential $1.622 trillion GDP as a boost to its ailing economy, but it's southern neighbours have powerful friends called the USA and Japan to name but a few if a nuclear bomb from the south fell then the escalation of firepower would have to take place I feel with USA's vastly superior military hardware and a helping hand from other nations Kim Jong Un war will be short lived and very messy.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

China is probabaly the only country that can beat the US but the US has the second most number of troops.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

China couldn't beat the US at the moment. It has a much larger population and more troops, but the US has better technology and more equipment. See the chart here. In a conventional war (no nukes) between the US and China, whoever attacked would probably lose.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

In my opinion, USA could take down any country if wanted. Russia and China are really the only countries that could actually stand a chance if caught in conflict with USA.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

Pound for Pound, you dont get much tougher than the UNITED KINGDOM (Given their size) and with such a strong alliance to the US it would be nigh on impossible to defeat USA in a war
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

Well, they really aren't much when compared to the US. Not only are we bigger, but we have much better technology.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

a war with with north Korea would be bad due to the fact that china is their Allie so they would be forced to join the war and making china products boycotted. Soon nukes would be used killing off everyone. Overtime USA would win but many lives would be taken on both sides. North Korea threats would be gone and relationship with china would slowly return but this all that is not worth everything we would have gone through. I say North Korea just need to stop getting pissed just because we are better than them. Now if It was North Korea alone vs. USA than we would destroy them using south Korea/North Korea as the battleground. We just need to send a few AC-130's and F-22 Raptors over and they will crap their pants.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

To be clear, China only backs North Korea if they are provoked into war, since North Korea is doing this all on their own, they lose Chinas help.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

The U.S has 2,915,362 and counting armed service members including reserves. 120,022,084 are fit for military service.------------------ KPA has 9,306,000 military personnel, almost all reserves. 10,066,704 are able to be drafted.----------- After drafts on both sides, we would easily outnumber them. KPA has a $5-10 billion budget. That is about 25% of there GDP so they can't raise that much. ------------The U.S has a $549.3 billion budget which is about 5% and can and most likely would be raised during such a war.----------NK only has 12-27 nuclear equivalent weapons with a max range insufficient to hitting the U.S alongside accuracy and success rates with a purported max yield of 6 to 40 kt-------The U.S has a purported 5,113 Nuclear capable weapons (indefinitely more) with a max range 13,000 km by land or 12,000 km by sub(another missing capability of KPA). U.S has a claimed max yield of 1.2 Mt, incomprehensibly more than that of NK.--------------Nk has no alliances but does have strong relations with China and Russia.---------------U.S has NATO(27) and the U.N has to count in some(many not "able" to go up against NK).-----------Over all, with better fundings, technology, resources, allies, and a larger fighting force along side many other factors like attempts to overtake the U.S position by{China, Russia} other countries, the U.S would ultimately destroy the KPA after a long fight. It would drag out, North Korea would probably resort to nuclear attempts, we would close ports down and isolate them and we would indefinitely be in a WWIII scenario and would end with another COLD WAR situation. Life would be filled with chaos and it would take years(probably 30-50) years to comeback to a stable-like outcome. Life would be chaos, filled with security searches, dogs, and imprisonments.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

This is just a moderate outcome of what could and probably would happen. Few things less and many things more severe could happen.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

You are right on the number of military personnel, but not on the US nukes. The largest nuclear weapons ever built by the US was the B41 (Mk41), with a max yield of 25mt. It weighed 10650lbs and was 12 feet long. These have not been produced since the 1960's. The highest yield missile warhead ever deployed by the United States was the W53 warhead with a 9mt yield. The last high yield bomb produced by the US was the B53-Y2. After it's retirement in 1965 the highest yield US weapon is the variable yield B83, with a maximum yield of 1.2 mt.The largest nuclear weapon ever developed by any nuclear power was the Soviet RDS-220, also called the Tsar Bomb. In a test explosion using lead as a damper instead of uranium, it had a yield of 58mt, in the full version (without lead) 150mt. All standard and current Russian weapons including NGB, SLBMs and ICBMs have yields of between 5 and 50mt.Particularly the SS-18 (Satan R-36M2) is current and nasty. The single warhead variant has the 15F175 warhead providing a 20mt yield. The MIRV'd version provides 10 15F173 warheads each with a 550kt yield. Then you have the R-36M2 version which can carry 20-36 550kt warheads. The single-warhead R-36M2 is the highest yield nuclear weapon currently deployed by any nation. Add all this to the fact that most of Russian nukes are very mobile hardened targets. Not easy to keep track of while the fireworks are going off.The standard warhead on all Chinese weapons is currently 5mt with a range of 13000km. The Chinese rockets are mostly based in a wide ranging collection of hardened tunnels.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

You are right. I honestly don't know how I got that number in there. It may have been a typo or just may not have been my day. Thank you for clarifying. I wouldn't worry about the Chinese going nuclear. Although there numbers seem superior when it comes to such facts, they have an awkward standing. Going nuclear would cause to much instability to their economic rising. As a conspiracist of many theories, I truly do believe that the U.S has a much higher capability than what they say, as well as many other large countries such as china and indefinitely Russia. These larger countries don't feel the need to brag quite as much as smaller countries such as N.K (think of it more economically rather than population).