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Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

You are not answering my question.Of what I've read on the internet, they tell me the zygote is only a small period time of the pregnancy - What I'm asking you is AFTER the zygote face is over, what phase comes next, and does that phase have any human characteristics at all? Does it show evidence of it being a human being?
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

I didn't answer your question because it didn't make any sense. If the zygote is the first stage in human development, then all stages after would also be a part of the human development cycle.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Choice

Out of several several scientists and doctors, you are the only one I have heard of saying that - so sorry, I don't believe you, but let's just agree on not agreeing.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Choice

The body naturally aborts the fetus if needed. if the body does it automatically if needed, then it should be completely legal prior to 24 weeks, when the fetus then live a descent live outside the womb.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Choice

You are simply WRONG.CHILD:: an unborn or recently born person
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

Oh God, you clearly have made a good valid argument here, by saying the definition of the word child.Sorry to say - a word is just a word, it doesn't prove anything.With that philosophy, then your skincells might as well be under the definition of children.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Choice

Do you disagree that the Medical dictionary supports our claims that an abortion kills a child? What about a legal definition which defines them as children too? "the term “unborn child” means a child in utero, and the term “child in utero” or “child, who is in utero” means a member of the species homo sapiens, at any stage of development, who is carried in the womb."
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

The legal definition of child in the country where I live, is a 12th week old fetus.I don't know where you live, so it could be different where you are.The medical dictionary, does as far as I know, not claim fetuses to be children. Just as chicken eggs aren't chicken - they are chicken EGGS.Just as caviar isn't fish - it is fish eggs.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Choice

I just posted the legal definition of a child in the womb for you. Our laws, for now make an exception to allow for abortions and that is what we are now trying to change. The legal determination that it is a child in the womb has already been established by the fact that we have laws which make it a crime of MURDER to unjustly kill one. Murder- by legal definition - is the unlawful killing of one person by another.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

Fetus not child fe·tus (fts)n. pl. fe·tus·es1. The unborn young of a viviparous vertebrate having a basic structural resemblance to the adult animal.2. In humans, the unborn young from the end of the eighth week after conception to the moment of birth, as distinguished from the earlier embryo
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

I suppose it could be both a fetus and a child .
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

What? Do you know where I live, and are you sure we share the same set of laws?But whatever - why are you trying to change that? If you don't want an abortion, then don't have one.You don't know what you are doing by making abortions illegal, it is a terrible campaign you are trying to make.Women who live under such laws, where abortion is not legal, try to hurt themselves in terrible ways, in order to get rid of their baby. Wouldn't it be better if she just had a professional procedure, to secure her OWN life?I will never support your a pro-life campaign, because you are using your own personal opinions to take away the freedom not to become a parent. And that is stupid.And seriously, you think everyone just walks into the hospital and have abortions all the time??? NO!! abortions is a serious thing, and when you are making a serious decision like that, you should be taken seriously, and there is 100% a good reason why you don't want to be a parent, because no girl is waiting for that exciting moment when her 'first abortion' is happening.It is perfectly natural - several several species EAT or kill their eggs. I'm not saying we should do this, only that getting rid of babies shouldn't be unnatural.And it's not like we need all those babies we abort - it's not like the human race is going instinct.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

I believe in equal rights. I also believe that a person's rights should begin when their life does and not just when others in a society can't justify their denial anymore. Do you disagree with either of those comments?
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

I too believe in equal rightsI too believe a person's rights should begin when their life does, however I do not think their life begins when the sperm meets the egg. I believe a person's rights begin when they enter the world outside the womb.Because unlike you I take the person with consciousness in first priority.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

Thankfully, the laws have already moved well beyond your level of denials. We already have laws (at least here in the U.S.) that make an unjust killing of a child in the womb - a crime of murder. For now, those laws make an exception to allow for abortions. We intend to fix that.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

So you are 100% against abortion - even if .. the mother is in danger if she has the kid, or if she got raped?
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

Against them? In what sense? I don't like that any abortions can ever be justified. However, I can not deny that some of them can be (at least constitutionally) justified. The easiest example of that being to 'save the life of the mother.'
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

Well - how about if the mother got raped and pregnant.Then it wasn't her intention on getting raped at all, would you allow her to have an abortion?
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Choice

Can you please show me the legislation that states that the unlawful killing of a child in the womb is murder? Your legal system orginates from the law of England and Wales. In our system murder is 'the unlawful killing of any person' and the case law clearly establishes this to mean after birth (or actually during the process of birth in some cases). Destroying a child in the womb is a seperate offence and the sentencing is less - there is no mandatory life sentence as their is for murder for instance.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

Why are we posting these as disputes before you have the answer to your question?The laws you are talking about are the Federal "Unborn Victims of Violence Act" http://news.findlaw.com/hdocs/docs/abortion/unbornbill32504.html And the various State's Laws which are based on it. http://www.ncsl.org/issues-research/health/fetal-homicide-state-laws.aspx
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Choice

You really see the life of fetuses (and maybe embryos?) in all stages of development as equal to that of someone who has already been born?
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

Again, why are you posting these questions as disputes? The answer to your question is YES. I do.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

fetus not child fe·tus (fts)n. pl. fe·tus·es1. The unborn young of a viviparous vertebrate having a basic structural resemblance to the adult animal.2. In humans, the unborn young from the end of the eighth week after conception to the moment of birth, as distinguished from the earlier embryo
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Choice

1. Your dictionary doesn't exclude a human fetus from being recognized as a child and2. Our laws already make that recognition."the term “unborn child” means a child in utero, and the term “child in utero” or “child, who is in utero” means a member of the species homo sapiens, at ANY stage of development, who is carried in the womb."[Supporting Evidence: U.S. Code - Unborn Victims of Violence Act] (http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/ 18/1841)
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

It can also be called fetus whether you like it or not.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

Why are you fighting for unconscious potential rights, when there are currently living conscious people missing them?The 12 week old fetuses you fight for don't care about their rights - that's why their called fetuses, they can't think - unlike children, real children.Gay rights, animal cruelty, cyber bullying or regular bullying, war, the environment, starving children without homes and lots of other stuff you could be fighting for. These are people with consciousness, who are suffering, and animals are suffering too - why are you trying to save unconscious lives, when you could give someone a home, fill someone's stomach or something like that?
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Choice

1. They are not potential rights. They are actual rights and I fight for them as I would for my own child. Mainly out of empathy and sympathy. A newborn can't comprehend nor really care about their own rights either. But they have and equal right to the protections of our laws, same as anyone else does. I see abortions as a greater crime against humanity than all of those other things you listed - combined. That's why I fight abortion as I do.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

So you believe that saving an unconscious human fetus, is more important than saving of a conscious starving child in Africa?Is it more important to save a fetus, than saving our environment so human kind can live on?Is it more important to save the rights of a fetus, than to give gay people the rights they deserve?Is it more important to save the rights of an unconscious fetus, than saving a conscious child from sexual abuse?If your answer is yes to all these, then you disgust me!!
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Choice

I believe they have equal rights. I also know we don't have a problem with the children in Africa being denied their humanity and personhood. Our environment means nothing to me if it comes at the expense of our humanity and Gays are not being denied any rights in any way the amounts to a denial of personhood and a basic human right to not be murdered... so yeah. We already have laws against the sexual abuse of children... and your denial of children's rights and personhood disgusts me too.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

I don't deny children their rights. I deny fetuses having human rights, not children.The little girls in Africa are being circumcised by force - they are in extreme pain, and will be it for the rest of their lives. They will never have pleasurable sex, they will have sex while being in extreme pain and when they give birth they will be in greater pain other women who didn't get circumcised never will experience.If that is how you grant them humanity and personhood, then I don't hope you'll save any fetuses in your lifetime.Does the environment mean nothing to you? Are you aware of that in order to make these fetuses live is by air, water and food? Do you think those are magical? Those are our three lifesources given as a gift from our planet.What is the point of saving lives when everybody's gonna choke and starve to death?Gays might not be denied their right to live and basic rights. But denial of personhood is something they have to deal with everyday. They are not being accepted by most people, they do not have the same rights as everybody else - the way I see it, either you have all rights or no rights. There shouldn't be a halfway.We do have laws against sexual abuse of children - does this mean it doesn't happen? Thousands of people work their asses of to find pedophiles and also there has to be a lot of work done with the recovery of the child.To me, it sounds that all you care about is all lives are being born - although what happens afterwards they're out of there is less important. Things like food, water, air, personal rights, or being protected from predators. They can die of whatever natural reason you can come up with, as long as their not being murdered - way to go man, way to go.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Choice

"I don't deny children their rights. I deny fetuses having human rights, not children."You deny those children their rights BY denying that they are children.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

Way to go - ignore everything else I said.They aren't children, that is why people made up a new word to describe them. If they were children, then we would call them children.Never have I ever heard a doctor call a fetus a child.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Choice

This is a definition from Webster's MEDICAL dictionary. They have doctors and lawyers to help write the definitions, you know. CHILD:1: an unborn  or  recently born person
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Choice

Yeah... I'm not going to allow you to muddy the waters like that with me. This is a debate about abortion. Try to stay focused on that.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

I don't think the fetuses mind being painlessly unknowingly removed, while we save the rest of the conscious world, consciously suffering from pain, starvation and abuse.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Choice

Their rights are not contingent upon whether or not they can think or fell pain. Our law makers are finally starting to understand that.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

Oh jesus thank GODNESS - we are so blessed that they finally understand that unconscious fetuses are more important saving than dealing with the rest of the conscious world's problems.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Choice

Where is it written that we can't do both at the same time?
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

16000 children die from starvation each DAY - that is more than four times the amount of abortions made.3,3 in the us million children are abused each year - that is about the same amount of fetuses aborted. - Basically you save fetuses to be sexually abused, but that's not my point.My point is, that there are so so so many millions.. billions of children starving, they are cold, they don't have a home, they don't have parents, they are not healthy, they have numerous of diseases, they are being sexually abused and some have to sell their body in order do get enough money.I think everyone who has the time to fight for ANYTHING should fight for these children, or at least something with a conscious.Because no matter if those things you talk about are children or not, there are billions of people suffering, each one in a different way, and you know what the worst part is? They have developed a brain, eyes and a conscious to actually witness the things they are going through.I don't believe you are making the world better with what you do.I believe children aids, anti-animal cruelty campaign, LGBT and CCE and other campaign who fight for a better place to live, for them who currently are facing the horrors of the world.But what do you do? You force young women to willingly fall down the stairs, because you are trying to make it illegal to professionally get an abortion.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Choice

"I think everyone who has the time to fight for ANYTHING should fight for these children, or at least something with a conscious."I don't have the gall to fight for one and ignore the other. I suppose I'm just not a hypocrite like some people are.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

Oh so they who give starving children something to eat are hypocrites?Or what is your point with that comment?
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Choice

If you feign outrage over either one and not the other?You're the epitome of a hypocrite.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

Can you define my hypocrisy?I'm afraid I do not understand the judgement you have made on me.When someone calls me a hypocrite, or other negative titles like that, I'd like to know what I've done to make them think so.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

I never called you a hypocrite. I explained to you how I thought a hypocrite would treat the two situations (abortions and starving children) that you were being so adamant about.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Choice

If you use starving children in one part of the world as a excuse to deny human rights to children in another part of the world? You're a Fking Hypocrite. No two ways about it.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

If you ignore conscious little children, suffering from starvation, pain and abuse because your too busy saving the unknowing, unconscious fetuses .. isn't that a hypocrite too?You're trying to change the law with the words, that everyone deserves the right to live - well haven't I got the right not to become a parent?And btw - what is so damn great about this world, that you want to make all fetuses witness it?
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

"If you ignore conscious little children, suffering from starvation, pain and abuse because your too busy saving the unknowing, unconscious fetuses .. isn't that a hypocrite too?"Absolutely."You're trying to change the law with the words, that everyone deserves the right to live - well haven't I got the right not to become a parent?"If you're pregnant, you already ARE a parent whether you wanted to be one or not. "And btw - what is so damn great about this world, that you want to make all fetuses witness it?"Not a damn thing.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

Then I guess we're both hypocrites.And no - I am not a parent before I agree on becoming a parent.I am a parent when I am ready to give the child all the love it needs - I WISH more people would have thought like I did, because millions of children are brought into this world by parents who are not ready for them, and therefore cannot give them the love and care they need.I'd rather be aborted as a fetus, than become a child to a mother who doesn't want me.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

I'm not a hypocrite that uses the unfortunate circumstances of children in one part of the world as a tool to steer people away from defending the rights in another part closer home. Yes, you are a parent if you are pregnant whether you agree on it or not. If you would rather have been aborted? That's on you. But it's not a justification for any mother to kill her children.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

Well .. the so called 'unfortunate circumstance' isn't unfortunate. It is very fortunate and every woman living under a free-abortion law should be thankful.You might be biologically a parent when you become pregnant - but being a parent is not just a noun, it's an adjective and a verb too.The noun 'parent' is easy - have sex. Let's make every drunk teenager a parent.The adjective and the verb are not very easy to handle, and accomplishing the title 'parent' as an adjective and verb is only being done by agreeing to be one, and actually be one.Therefore I am only a parent if I want to become one - and if I don't want to become one I shouldn't be one, because I wouldn't be able to give my child a life worth living.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

"You might be biologically a parent when you become pregnant - but being a parent is not just a noun, it's an adjective and a verb too."Thank you for that tacit agreement that a child's life (at least biologically) begins at conception.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

I didn't agree on that.I said you are a biologically a parent (noun)But you are biologically parent to a fetus, not a child.I will continue this debate tomorrow, good night.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

A human being in the fetal stage of their life can certainly be called a 'human fetus."If you think that makes them less of a human being, less of a child or less than the young of the parents who created them? You are simply wrong about it. I'll be happy to explain it further tomorrow.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Choice

Would you claim that a 7 year old child could be called an adult?No, because it isn't an adult, and claiming it being an adult is silly.Calling fetuses children is the same as calling children adults.I don't think fetuses are less of a human being than I am, although I believe at that age, the mother should be able to chose herself what she wants.This life isn't very long, and the one's who are currently living should be able to do what they want with it.A fetus is never going to miss it's life - the mother, who was conscious when she got pregnant, probably had dreams for her life, and if she had a dream where a child would stand it the way, she should have the choice to remove it.The fetus is never going to know what life is, therefore it cannot wish it had one.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

"Would you claim that a 7 year old child could be called an adult?No, because it isn't an adult, and claiming it being an adult is silly.Calling fetuses children is the same as calling children adults."The word child has much more broad definitions than you are apparently willing to accept. I am a fifty year old man. My father can still call me his 'child.' Likewise for my own adult 'child.' A child in the fetal stage of their life can be and often is called a 'fetus.' But, just as the medical definitions say... they are still nothing less than a childI don't care to debate the rest of your opinions because they are just that - opinions. This part (above) is about the facts.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

I don't care to debate the rest of your opinions because they are just that - opinions.you can drop the act we all know you won't debate those parts because you can't refute them.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

It's silly how they go on debating with nothing new to give into the debate.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Choice

Your father can't call you his child - well, physically he can but grammatically speaking he can't.You aren't a child, you're a grown adult, and you are his son.If you are not willing to debate my opinions then I see no point in debating with you. You ignore the most of the stuff I say, which clearly means you don't have an answer, which makes me the winner of this debate.Your facts aren't proven - or I haven't really gotten any reliable proof from you yet.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

I can already tell. You don't have any children.Do you.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

Well I am 17, so yes you are right.Although I am 3 months pregnant.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

I moved out on my own at 17. You have a lot of life ahead of you and I'm impressed that you are keeping your child and involving yourself with these issues at such a young age. I know I wouldn't likely be doing the same if I were 17 again. I would probably be doing the same things I did before. :)
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

Thank you for that - I am not moving out, I think I need some help with this stuff. Although I am very good with children - my sisters have a lot of children and I babysit them all the time - small babies and teenagers too, so I know what I can expect.
Debate: Pro-life vs. Pro-choice
Side: Pro-Life

In all sincerity, I wish I could help all young women who want to keep their children. I'm not wealthy enough to do that and while I have tried, I'm not a good enough organizer to do it that way either. I have to ask - is the child's father going to be part of its life?