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Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

"My argument that you are stupid is supported by your stupid arguments... It should be easy to understand. My opinion that you are stupid comes from observation, of your arguments, from reading your arguments."You think I'm "stupid" because my arguments are "stupid" you then support this "fact" that my arguments are "stupid" because you observed it. That is what constructing an opinion is, you observe something and give a biased view on it. Your subjectiveness comes from the fact that I'm religious and therefore my argument is "stupid", thus I am "stupid", thus my religion is "stupid" and because I believe in a "stupid" religion my argument is (according to you) stupid.Ergo, we are caught in an infinite loop of you repeating your opinions and the debate going nowhere until I get bored of you and stop bothering."All of it? Are you saying you don't use your own brain?"It's good to see that you can't provide an example and avoid finding an answer, like you normally do when asked a questtion."You got it in reverse. My opinions are based on logic and reality, but I've said it a couple of times already. I first need something to base my opinions on... First comes the opinion and then comes reality, and logic? What you said is like saying that everything that exists is because I have thought of it. I wish it was true..."*Since, we are clearly going nowehere with this I will stop debating with you now.Goodbye Nummi.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

That is what constructing an opinion is, you observe something and give a biased view on it.My views aren't biased. Your subjectiveness comes from the fact that I'm religious and therefore my argument is "stupid", thus I am "stupid", thus my religion is "stupid" and because I believe in a "stupid" religion my argument is (according to you) stupid.My objectiveness, not subjectiveness, comes from the fact that you have given stupid arguments. Religion is stupid whether you give stupid arguments or not. And the fact that religion is stupid and you follow it doesn't exactly make you smart... then add your stupid arguments to it, especially if they are based on religion...Ergo, we are caught in an infinite loop of you repeating your opinions and the debate going nowhere until I get bored of you and stop bothering.I'm not going in loops, you are. I'm simply repeating what you cannot understand, something that should be easy to understand.It's good to see that you can't provide an example and avoid finding an answer, like you normally do when asked a questtion.You keep saying there is this question I never answered... where is it?Since, we are clearly going nowehere with this I will stop debating with you now.Goodbye Nummi.Got bored? I did a while ago.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

nummi, Your responses are very amusing. ("My views aren't biased.") Not a single person can claim the impossible and it be taken seriously. Everybody's views are biased. The only difference is that most of us know this.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

Learn the meaning of bias then come back.Basing my views and opinions on observation is being biased?
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

I know the meaning of bias and what causes it. Things like believing that science can do no wrong, this is bias. What your parents taught you, this is a form of bias. What you watch on TV, a form of bias. Being subjected to anything and everything causes biases. To believe that you are free from any biases shows how little you know about life, people and the world. Go back to your glass house and throw stone at others.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

I know the meaning of bias and what causes it.Yet you cannot see it in yourself.Things like believing that science can do no wrong, this is bias.Is this directed toward me? If so then where exactly have I indicated that?What your parents taught you, this is a form of bias.My parents didn't teach anything else but the normal things like be nice, don't steal, don't stay out too late, don't stay up too late, do your homework on time. You know, the usual, the normal and what is expected of every parent. Not that if you do something wrong God will punish you by putting you into hell where you will burn for eternity, or that God is real because I just said so, etc. (probably coupled with threats of some form, to stop the endless and necessary questions about the nonsense being fed).What you watch on TV, a form of bias.I don't watch TV. Even if I had one I would watch almost only discovery channel, discovery science, other similar ones.Are you saying fictional movies and series are bias? That's... not smart. Or are you suggesting there is a massive conspiracy to keep everything biased? Wait... eh, didn't see that coming. There is a massive conspiracy, it's called religion.Being subjected to anything and everything causes biases.That's the point. I'm not subjected to anything, while you are very clearly.To believe that you are free from any biases shows how little you know about life, people and the world.You base your claims on an ancient book that doesn't belong here with it's extremely stupid and barbaric stories and rules and whatnot, and yet I know nothing of life, the people, and the world? Are you high? No, you're stupid and ignorant, aside other obvious and more negative characteristics.Go back to your glass house and throw stone at others.This was a weak one... so weak it doesn't even need a real response.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

This is funny stuff. Why are you so concerned over someone else's beliefs? If you truly think they are stupid and he is stupid, why bother to keep asserting the same insults and arguments? What difference is it going to make?Let me give you a suggestion here: When claiming religion to be stupid, at least reinforce it with your own intelligence, because you're not using logic right now. All of your arguments have been fueled by a hatred towards those that are religious, this is emotional. The fact is, atheists do hold the higher intellectual ground. I respect that and its effective when they use this trait to their advantage. What you're doing here is not effective at all. I'm objectively looking at this, and I'm sure even many atheists agree that the foundation of an argument can't always be based on perceived stupidity of your opponent. But what do I know? I'm just one of those stupid, religious people.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

This is funny stuff. Why are you so concerned over someone else's beliefs? If you truly think they are stupid and he is stupid, why bother to keep asserting the same insults and arguments? What difference is it going to make?You could have as well said the same to the other guy.When claiming religion to be stupid, at least reinforce it with your own intelligence, because you're not using logic right now.???I used my own intelligence and I used logic...All of your arguments have been fueled by a hatred towards those that are religious, this is emotional.In that case you might want to reread those arguments. As you seem to be interpreting them as you want to, not as they are.What you're doing here is not effective at all.It cannot be effective, as the one I was arguing with is, well, kind of delusional. It's not the first time I've been in this kind of mess with him.But what do I know? I'm just one of those stupid, religious people.With this you kinda did affirm you are stupid. And there's more than one way to look at it.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

And who is the lord and master of rational thinking? Get over your god complex.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

Lord and master? Definitely not you.God complex? Should that not mean I would never consider myself as incorrect? There's a little problem with that...You seem to have a god complex when it comes to your precious religion, as you deny what denies and defies it. You unquestioningly claim your opinions based on religion to be true and correct. Am I right?
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

I never claimed to be perfect. As a matter of fact I shout at the top of my lungs, I'm imperfect. You should look up Christianity sometime and the very definition of it will tell you I'm not perfect. It is why I am a Christian.I make no claims that my religion is any better than yours. Too bad you can't say the same. Religion is man's interpretation of what we think God wants us to be, not the other way around. Of course I question what I claim, but I also know what feels right and what is the right thing to do. If these things correspond to a religion then that's where I find myself.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

It is why I am a Christian.That's a very weak "excuse" to be Christian. Simply because you're not perfect? You already don't sound exactly smart.Perfect is impossible to achieve, unless you consider the flawed state as perfect.By the way, I never said anything about perfectionism in my previous argument.I make no claims that my religion is any better than yours. Too bad you can't say the same.I'm not religious, also the reason I can't say the same.Doesn't matter which religion, they're all bad. But still, some aren't as bad as others.Religion is man's interpretation of what we think God wants us to be, not the other way around.In that case there should be proof that a God exists in the first place. Yet there is none. Meaning all about religion is man-made, including God.Of course I question what I claim, but I also know what feels right and what is the right thing to do. If these things correspond to a religion then that's where I find myself.This is so stupid, really is.If you really questioned your religion then you would not be religious, you'd see it as the nonsense it is.If you think religion feels right then, sorry, but you are rather messed up in the head (your parents' doing, I presume).You feel what is the right thing to do? What if one day you felt it was right to start mutilating everyone you saw, then a pregnant woman was just passing by... Disgusting picture, isn't it? See, I don't act only on what feels right, I also act on what is right or not act on what is wrong. The picture you form of yourself is not nice at all, so far.So, if you wore Santa's costume, had reindeers and a sledge and felt that it was right then you'd be a Santa? Or it applies only to religions? Okay then, a new religion - Santanism (a rival to Satanism).You were raised as a Christian, am I right? That's why you are a Christian, that is why you think as you do, no other reason.I was raised without any religion, literally. First time I really heard about them and found out more of what they are was when I was between 12 and 14, and what I found out was all so fucking stupid, downright idiotic. A person who grows up with zero religious influence will in most cases (approximately 99%, I assume) never become religious. I have 3 brothers, none of them are religious and they all were raised with no religion. People become religious if they are raised as such, luckily some are turning away from those idiotic ways and teachings. Good for them. Bad for you, as you still adhere to it.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

I could say the same about any religious missionary's. I don't get why you find that surprising though, that rationally thinking people try and help other people think rationally, isn't that what school's supposed to be about?Just to confirm, I don't think all atheists are rational thinkers, or that theists aren't, it's just for emphasis.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

"I could say the same about any religious missionary's. I don't get why you find that surprising though, that rationally thinking people try and help other people think rationally, isn't that what school's supposed to be about?"Why do you follow the assumption that all atheists are "rational thinkers".
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

Me: Just to confirm, I don't think all atheists are rational thinkers, or that theists aren't, it's just for emphasis.You: Why do you follow the assumption that all atheists are "rational thinkers".I'l let you think about that one for a bit.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

"I don't get why you find that surprising though, that rationally thinking people try and help other people think rationally,"This is what I was talking about.I could say the statement "All atheists are stupid. (Actually, I don't think all atheists are stupid, so you're not allowed to bring my statement into question)"
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

Well you were saying that atheists are so intelligent and all, so I was playing on your annoyance and continuing the idea that all atheists must be rational thinkers. It's not that I'm not asking you to question me, it's just I'm making sure that everyone got I wasn't being serious. The important point was that the focus was humour, rather than offense, as well as putting one group up rather than a different group down.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

Sorry if I've taken your points too seriously, but if you haven't noticed Nummi's joined the debate and his arguments consist of insults against religious people. I just assumed you had taken the same stance.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

No worries, he's definitely a little more dicky towards theists than I try to be.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

Insults? By saying as it is, by reflecting reality? The words I tend to use once it is clear they do apply are stupid, idiot, delusional. Mostly it's those. You haven't exactly given many arguments contradicting those characteristics.Against religious people? Seems you haven't noticed what moronic arguments many of them have given around this site. Rather clear to me why, because you're one of them.Didn't this mess between us not begin with a Britain debate? You made it rather clear to me there what you are like, in certain areas.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

"Insults? By saying as it is, by reflecting reality? The words I tend to use once it is clear they do apply are stupid, idiot, delusional. Mostly it's those. You haven't exactly given many arguments contradicting those characteristics."Once again, this is your own opinion. I would say it's because of your warped sense of reality but then you would continue to deny everything and then have the aduacity to claim that it is me who doesn't understand reality."Against religious people? Seems you haven't noticed what moronic arguments many of them have given around this site. Rather clear to me why, because you're one of them."I have supported my arguments here with evidence and sources, it is less moronic that your arguments which are all paraphrases of - I think your argument is stupid, therefore it is stupid, therefore you are stupid, therefore you cannot disprove anything I say."Didn't this mess between us not begin with a Britain debate? You made it rather clear to me there what you are like, in certain areas."You dragged religion into the debate and it was there I learnt of your dark prejudices.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

Once again, this is your own opinion.Opinion derived from observation...Are you saying you don't have your own opinions?I would say it's because of your warped sense of reality but then you would continue to deny everything and then have the aduacity to claim that it is me who doesn't understand reality.My sense of reality is warped? Yet you take fiction as real. Makes perfect sense.I have supported my arguments here with evidence and sources, it is less moronic that your arguments which are all paraphrases ofTalking of religion then no, you haven't. The only real thing you can use to "support" religion is the pointless book and the fact that billions follow it. All it shows how many warped minds there are, you included.And yours is less moronic when I base my arguments on logic and actual things that have evidence? Religion has no evidence other than it exists, what religion claims is nonsense.I think your argument is stupid, therefore it is stupid, therefore you are stupid, therefore you cannot disprove anything I say.If something is stupid then it is stupid. You've given plenty of examples of this. If you keep providing them then it is safe to assume you must be stupid.You dragged religion into the debate and it was there I learnt of your dark prejudices.Dark prejudices? That's funny. I've said many times already, but I can keep repeating it, I base my opinions on... and I bet you know the rest (actually, I doubt you do since, well, you've claimed something else).If I remember correctly then I didn't drag it into it, I simply used an example of atheism and you then showed your prejudice. Then I checked if you were religious, and you were, and that explained why you said whatever it was you did.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

Only a small fraction of athiests actually outright attack and insult believers. Mostly its just theists taking offence when arguments against their gods arise. And id say that way more theists go around condemning and spreading threats of hell and hate for gays and non believers than athiest insulting them.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

"Only a small fraction of athiests actually outright attack and insult believers. Mostly its just theists taking offence when arguments against their gods arise. "Not on this site it isn't, I think you'll find that most of the atheists who actually research evolution and know what atheism is about (in contrast to those who become atheist because they don't want to go to church), act as if they know more than Christians do. If you still need more evidence please take a look at Nummi's arguments.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

If they understand and accept the science or evolution and have done research both scientifically and historically to draw the conclusion that god does not exist then they (we) DO know more than someone who blindly follows something they cannot see that has no evidence supporting it while failing to research their own religion and just learn by word of mouth and a storybook, and not accepting evolution because their religion says we were all poofed here because the first man ate a magical fruit in a magical garden because a talking snake told him to then he and his magical rib girl populated earth. What I'm trying to say is most athiests DO know more than christians when it comes to debating gods existance. Plain and simple. And actually many athiests even know their religion better than them (I believe I do).
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

First of all, your grammer is insulting. Next you assume I "blindly follow" my religion without doing any scientific research at all. Just because I'm Christian doesn't mean i know nothing about science, just because I believe something you don't doesn't reduce me to a culturally inept, close-minded idiot.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

First of all, get off your high horse grammar nazi. Second of all yeah, most christians do follow their religion blindly. Im pleased to see you dont yet i dont understand how after researching the religion and science (to what extent i do not know) you still believe that BS. This means that you either A) made excuses for things B) were too stupid to understand them or C) ignored them completely. I recommend you research more in depth about why your religion is false and try to understand arguments against it. It honestly baffles me how someone who did research could still be a puppet to that.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

So, hold on, you've picked up some grammer only to ruin your argument with a load of insults and opinions. All you've done is reinforce my original statement.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

BECAUSE AS HE SAID MORE INTELLIGENT WHICH MOST OF THESE ATHELICS ARE NOT , HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA .
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

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Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

Christianity has been considered irrational for a while already.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

Is the world really becoming more intelligent? The more one is "educated" the less common sense they seem to have. "Tim was so learned, that he could name a horse in nine Languages. So ignorant, that he bought a cow to ride on." Ben Franklin
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

The Christian ship is sinking. Even the Christians we have now are far less fundamentalist than Christianity was in its prime.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

This is not true at all. Many Christians today are just as fundamentalist as past Christians.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

"Many Christians today are just as fundamentalist as past Christians."This in no way contradicts what I said.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

A: Even the Christians we have now are far less fundamentalist than Christianity was in its prime.B: Many Christians today are just as fundamentalist as past Christians.You see no contradiction here? I know you to be intelligent, don't fail me now. Read the two statements again, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt this time.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

Many Christians can be just as fundamentalist as ye olde Christians even if the aggregate fundamentalism has gone down. These options aren't mutually exclusive. The existence of the Westboro Baptist Church doesn't erase the fact that Europe is no longer a series of theocracies, for example.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

You said "the Christians we have now are far less fundamentalist than Christianity was in its prime." When you the mention "the Christians we have today", you are referring to all Christians. You didn't say the majority of or overall fundamentalism has declined.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

'The Christians' doesn't include the majority of Christians? The fundies we have now are far and few between when compared to the amount of fundies in Christianity's prime. Hell, In Christianity's prime there was no real such thing as fundies because everyone was a fundie. Even the fundies we have now are nothing compared to the average Christians of, say, the sixteenth century. Clearly Christianity has lost a lot of the grip that it used to hold.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

'The Christians' doesn't include the majority of Christians?Yes, but that's not what you said originally. Not all Christians are less fundamentalist than past Christians.The fundies we have now are far and few between when compared to the amount of fundies in Christianity's prime.I don't agree. Can you define fundie? I'm not sure if I completely understand what you're saying.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

What I originally said was that the Christians we have now are far less fundamentalist than when Christianity was in its prime. Meaning on average, contemporary Christians are not as fundamentalist as the Christians of the dark ages. Fundie=fundamentalist
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

I understand, but what do you mean by fundamentalist? And how did you come to this conclusion?