azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

Another way of arriving at a logically consistent result is: A all-loving, all-powerful, all-knowing god exists. If he knows some evil is necessary for the best possible world, then any evil that exists must therefore be necessary. The evil that cannot exist is non-purposeful evil. Since humans are not omniscient, they cannot tell the difference between the types of evil. But logically, god is all-loving, all-powerful, all-knowing, and there is justified and necessary evil in the world. The flaw in the logic is that you assume evil is not necessary. If god is all three qualities, since evil exists, it must be necessary. If it was unnecessary, his omnipotence would have eliminated it. So therefore, the evil that exists must be justified according to god's plan.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

God is all-loving. He loves us more than anybody else on this earth can. God did not put sin and evil into this world, humans did. This world was perfect before God made us. Only when God created Adam and Eve did sin enter the world. The human race should have ended with Adam and Eve. They should have been punished for their rebellion in eating the apple they were told not to. They should have been cast into the lake of fire and human history should have ended. But thankfully, our god is a meciful god. He came up with a remarkable, astonishing, unthinkable alternative: He himself would bear the punsihment for his creation. God himself would enter the world and take on the suffering and death and judgement and judgement that his people incurred. he met the demands of divine justice by submitting to judgement as a criminal and a sinner even though he had never sinned. Put simpler, God sent his son to die for us. He loved us so much that he paid the punishment for our sins already so that we didn't have to. Some of you might say that if he sent his son then he didnt actually pay for us himself. Well there is this thing called the Trinity. 1.) God the Father2.) God the Son3.) God the Holy SpiritGod is all of them. that is very hard to comprehend i know but look at it this way: My dad for example sells auto parts.He is my father, he is his dad's son, and he is a salesmen. He isnt three different people he is the same person that has all of those roles.Just as evil entered the world by an act of people, salvation was accomplished by an act of God. All you have to do is believe that God has already paid for our sins and accept Jesus Christ as your saviour to enter into the glorious, extravagent kingdom of heaven. Please if you are more interested in this subject discuss it with the pastor of your local church. I am a baptist so if you talk to a baptist preacher you will get the same opinion i have.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Meaning of Sacrifice

With respect, how did Jesus dying on the cross pay for our sins? If God set the rules, couldn't he have just forgiven us directly? If he decided that his own sacrifice to himself is necessary, is this truly a sacrifice? Is it even a sacrifice for an omnipotent eternal being to sacrifice a small part of himself for a moment of existence (relative to eternity)? The Triad still exists, does it not? Therefore, no sacrifice was made.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

Jesus dying on the cross did pay our sin debt, in full— BECAUSE ...God set the rules, and He is a JUST God, therefore He follows His own commandments. In order to be consistent and just and fair and good, He needed a sacrifice—sins were to be punished then. There's a whole great order to all of it: He sent His one and only son (the most loving sacrifice one can make, especially since His son was sinless and perfect and not deserving of such punishment) to pay the penalty for mankind's sins (because God loved man and wanted to be reconciled to him) and to point to a new direction by doing this (to answer your second question, which is what He does now—"forgive us directly" if asked in faith).... In the Old Testament, God made "the rules" (we'll call them) to help guide early mankind. When He arrives as Jesus, it was also to examine mankind's heart. So many people followed the rules for all the wrong reasons or with judgment and hate—Jesus came to examine mankind's "heart condition" and rectify it and fulfill the payment of sin for once and for all. The only condition is that people must believe Jesus came and did this, lest they insult the sacrifice God made, and God Himself. To me—there is no larger sacrifice—sending Jesus (God Himself, part of the Godhead) to Hell??? When you're God! Just to show mankind that You love him—even though You're perfect and created everything under the sun, You will submit yourself to the humilities of man and hell?—THAT'S love. There is nothing more amazing than that! So yes, a sacrifice was made. And He loves all of us more than we can even BEGIN to imagine. Look at the brains he gave all of you! :)Read John 3:16
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Evil not compatible with Love

If evil is necessary, that would mean doing evil would be God's work since it is necessary and by definition, needed. Even evil itself would be God's work. While a broad interpretation of God may allow this, a Christian interpretation of a loving God would not. In other words, "All Loving" is not compatible with evil. A spanking of a child may be an act of love but the child dying in a fire you set intentionally with the intent of harming the child can no way be called love.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

evil is only spices of life... without evil then we will never know the importance of heaven
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

People die of cancer, people die in fires because the world in which they live is doing something seriously wrong that is leading to its own annihilation.A person dying in a fire isn't suppose to be a good thing. If it happens it's because it's suppose to make you feel uncomfortable and realize that the world is doing something seriously wrong. Plagues, earthquakes, tsunamis are there to intentionally make you feel uncomfortable and they happen to make the survivors change their ways. When people fail to change in response to these disasters, expect life to get much, much harder.Guess what? Sin killed the perfectly sinless Jesus. One person's sin effects everyone else in his community. If the sinner himself isn't paying for the wages of his sin, someone has to. That's the lesson of Jesus.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

some innocent people die like little children die innocently and your saying thats ment to happpen to show criminals and bad people that this is what there doing and this is what will happen so if you think about it the innocent are dying because god wants to show criminals so the innocent are paying the price.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

Bingo, bloisy!Sin kills the innocent. Sin killed Jesus, remember. ( The murderer was set free, but the innocent person--Jesus--took his place. )If we truly love the people around us we wont sin.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Yes I know that He does love us

While we have witnessed human suffering around the world that, in and of itself, does not equate to the idea that "God doesn't love us." Neither God or what is written in the Old Testament of the Bible promises us an easy ride here on earth. Indeed, when Eve partook of that apple in God's garden of Eden, she had no idea of God's will vis-a-vis his power to give and take in this world.I have seen human suffering wherever I have visited in the world but I have also witnessed God's kindness to His people. How do we know that God created suffering or miracles or kindness? We don't, really. This is something that lies in our faith that God is in control of our destiny here on earth. If one believes God created the earth and everything in it then see the miracles of nature. They are astounding in their beauty and their complexities. See the cures our medical geniuses have provided us throughout the centuries. His gifts are all around us and yet all we see are the injustices perpetrated on mankind. I think we don't understand human suffering as a tool by which to make things right. God has given us choices since that day in Eden and we cannot blame Him for all the wrong we see. There is a book available that is entitled "When Bad Things Happen to Good People" written by Harold S. Kuschner that makes much sense out of this chaotic world. Another series, if you really wish to test your faith and beliefs, is entitled "Conversations With God: An Uncommon Dialogue" written by Neale Donald Walsch that was so broad it was written in three volumes. They were among the most fascinating books I've ever studied.I know that God loves all of us for I have seen much to point me in that direction through the years. I do, however, understand your and anyone's questioning of this possibility.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

What has the state of the world come to!? You poor people. You are lost, and I will pray for you. Your alllowing evil into your life. I'm sorry. God sent his ONLY SON to DIE for US on a WOODEN CROSS that WHO SO EVER BELIEVES in HIM shall NOT PERISH, but have EVERLASTING LIFE! What is wrong with you????
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

I guess we would just rather live our lives not believing in fairytales; that's what's wrong with us.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

Your alternative? In sarcastic hatefulness?
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

My alternative to what? To god? The alternative is simply that there is no god.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

You are the sad one. You are a slave to religion. I will not bow down to some high and mighty being who is so high in the clouds he refuses to help. If a god exists, he is uncaring and distant. This is called deism, and makes more sense. You have been so brainwashed that you cannot think outside your box. You only think someone heres your prayers, that someone talks back to you. It is your imagination. Get over it.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

depends really. we really don't know what god is yet (if it even exists). if it is a conscience god, i would like to thank it for giving me free will and for actually making life worth living. what's the point in life if nothing happens and you don't have to do anything to get what you want... there is no point.if an all powerful creator is giving me free will, i'd have to say he really does love me (for not turning me into his slave).
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

you know, it is said that free will is one of the gifts God gives us. [:that and grace.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

People truly benefit from hardship and misfortune.http://tinyurl.com/6428xm
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Yes I know that He does love us

Wrong, God loves all of us. The Apostle John tells us that, "God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life (John 3:16, KJV).
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

Wrong, God doesn't love any of us. The apostle Billy Bob tells me that, "God really hated the world, so he gave his only daughter, who was a right little bugger, that whosoever would have a bit of rumpy pumpy with her should not be happy, but have everlasting torment" (Terry 13:37).This is a quote written down in my notebook on my desk. It has just as much validity as your quote, though.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

You dont love God.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: The Lessons of Life and Death

That's a very good point sonerbalon but I would add that many people don't trust or have faith in God. I have a very good friend who lost his nephew at the age of 13. The boy had been ill all of his life. His father could never understand why John was so at peace with himself and could accept his fate so easily. John would tell his father things that his dad just couldn't understand. Hid Dad became angrier by the day when they finally knew that John was about to leave them. After he died, his father grieved for many months and then one day he called my friend, his brother, and told him that he had been thinking about all the things John had told him while he was still alive. He knew, at long last why John's mission here on earth was finished and why God gave John to them to love. John's dad thought that he had no joy, no peace, no understanding and no place to go after his only son died. John had taught his father how to care about others and think about his time here on earth. His dad had to go over to the hospital to pick up some paper-work that had been left there for him and the day he did, he saw a boy about the same age as John. The boy was struggling with his own pending death and his heart told him to reach out to this teen. He told the boy the story of his son and spoke with him as John once did with his dad. The two became fast friends and visited each other often when the boy came home from the hospital. This went on for months until the day the boy made his last visit to the hospital as a patient. Suddenly they both knew why they were there. One was there to teach and the other to learn. God provided them each the appropriate avenue down which to travel.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: the inconsistent triad

A lovely anecdote about the human capacity, but nothing godly in it at all.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

Thanks Xaeon but John always spoke of God and his dad wondered how there could be one since he didn't "LOVE" John enough to save him. I cannot refute what I witnessed as John's dad finally came full circle and understood God's love for John and himself. They did believe God loved them. I didn't live it, but they did. It is, perhaps, not the way you see it but you as well as all are entitled to your own ways of thinking.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

That is a situation of circumstance. God is so ingraned into our human mindset that in times of stress god is the imaginary friend that helps our minds make sense of a bad situation.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Universe not destroyed

1. God created the universe2. God has power to destroy the universe3. there is a good number of people in this universe who does not love God4. yet God did not destroy the universeRESULT..GOD LOVES US
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: the inconsistent triad

1. If a perfectly good god exists, then he would want there to be no evil in the world.2. God is all powerful, so has the power to completely eradicate evil.2. There is evil in the world.3. Therefore, a perfectly good god does not exist.Result: God doesn't love us.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

1. This world leads to another world (hereafter).2. The outcome of tests in this world results in reward or punishment later.3. Tests necessitates putting man under hardship to see his reaction.4. This small hardship leads to eternal pleasure if he succeeds in this testRESULTStill God Loves Us.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

Number one was an assumption based on absolutely no evidence or logic, and therefore cannot be used to draw a logical conclusion. Number two doesn't matter as god is all-knowing, and therefore already knows which choices we are all going to make. He knows beforehand who is going to heaven and who is going to hell.Number three, as with number two, is irrelevant as god is all knowing.Number four, as above.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

1) He DOESN'T want there to be evil in the world. Have you read the Bible?2) Yes, He does, but He wants mankind to want to completely eradicate evil and do it by following His ways. By glorifying Him and doing it for Him and through Him,  He is the eradicator of it.3) Yes, there is evil in the world. Why is that? Because MAN refused to let go of his pride and thought he knew best, instead of following God's ways.Real Result:God loves us plenty!! He wouldn't have given us His word and His sacrificial son, Jesus, to pay mankind's sin debt if He didn't. And that was a HUGE, LOVING sacrifice.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

"He DOESN'T want there to be evil in the world. Have you read the Bible?"Have you read my argument? I said quite clearly that god doesn't want there to be evil in the world. So, thank you for agreeing with me."Yes, He does, but He wants mankind to want to completely eradicate evil and do it by following His ways. By glorifying Him and doing it for Him and through Him, He is the eradicator of it."Let's not beat around the bush here. If god wants everyone to believe in him before he will stop evil in the world, then not only does he not love us, but he is vain and jealous to boot. He's not the eradicator of evil, he is the one who allows it to happen."Yes, there is evil in the world. Why is that? Because MAN refused to let go of his pride and thought he knew best, instead of following God's ways."No, because god refuses to eradicate it. Make all the excuses and justifications you want, the bottom line is that god has the power to eradicate evil but chooses not to. Putting stipulations on his love (such as believing in him, accepting him as your savior) doesn't sound like an all-loving god to me.Also let's not even begin to delve into the old testament, which is practically a catalogue of god's evils.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

I hate God. He is a lazy, uncaring ass that is too high and mighty to come help. Here is my argument.1. God caused big bang, creates universe2. God supposedly did once destroy the world3. God never gets involved, only sends prophets who promise divine judgement and helpResult:God does not care for us. We are like lab rats in his experiment. Therefore he does not love us
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: crazy

I talked to God yesterday. He said you're full of shit and that the Universe resulted from a big explosion and we evolved over billions of years and he's been sitting on his ass watching MASH reruns the whole time. Also he told me to tell you he hates you.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

then u must be a close friend of him to get all such information from him...does He Love u?
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

... that was sarcasm. Things that don't exist cannot love. If there were a god and he "loved" there would not be doubt. There is doubt, ergo, there is no Christian type god. Logically the only type of god one could argue for are the old laissez faire, devil-be-damned type gods of the Romans. Honestly, that is the only type of god that makes sense... I've studied it extensively. A single all powerful god is completely self-contradictory. The Bible is self contradictory along with the Koran and every othe silly religious book.No, I'm quite afraid that my comment was sarcasm, there is no magic daddy in the sky, and we don't magically only pretend to die when we're dead.Oh, I wish it were not so, but it is so. Sorry.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

Well he probably doesn't like those who say the argument field must be x amount in length...
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

He loves us, we just dont love him.Do you think God would permit us to be living at this point. If he hated us, he couldve destroyed humanity for its wicked ways, but he didnt. he loves us so much that to this point he is still giving us the opportunity to turn from our sinful ways he even sent jesus to die for us, so that we would be forgiven of our sins. But what good is love, when the someone doesnt want to open up to it.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

I have two issues with the Problem of Evil Argument.One, define evil without good. Try. I dare you.Evil and Good cannot be defined without each other. If one cannot exist without the other, than do either really exist? If Good and Evil are inseparable, how can you say that a Good God would cause no evil?Two, At the most, this argument strips away the characteristics of God. This argument doesn't Strip away God, but rather the Concepts associated with God by Organized Religion. I offer an alternate theory for those who may dislike my argument, for it being to much based on concepts and language. If "God" is formed from everything in the universe, forever, if "God" is not centrally conscious, then all of the parts of "God" may not be moving towards the same end. And, if the parts of the whole do not move towards the same end, then disagreement and "evil" are most certainly likely.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

it is not rightful to tell that god doesn't love us....how can you say that god doesn't love us.... the problems that we are encountering is just a test to us. this will measure our faith for him.... besides, he never give trials if he knows that we can't do that. the reason of our failure is that we never think that we could overcome such hindrances, such trials that is given to us. think of it. How many times you experience failure in life. and what's the reason of such failure.... for sure it is because you lack of confidence... you lack faith in god....
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

There are many solutions to the problem of evil. One solution is that God is not all-powerful. This makes the world a place of duality, where the devil and God reign opposing kingdoms and cannot stop eachother. I don't agree with this argument, but this is one solution to it. The argument I tend to side with is the argument for the best of both possible worlds. We can live in a possibility of two different worlds. The first world is full of people who have no free will. Because of this, there is no evil in the world. These "slaves" cannot choose to murder, steal, lie, cheat, or sin. They cannot choose to love, live life, or relax to the fullest either, though. The other world is full of people who have free will. Therefore, they use this free will to do what they wish. Some people use it like Charles Manson or the BTK killer. Others use their free will like Ghandi or Mother Theresa. It all depends on which world you would rather live in: a free world with evil or a good world without choice.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

We are down behind enemy lines.Scratch fell with a third of the heavenly host.For whatever reason, "God," has chosen for this stage play to be consummated through the corridors of time with humans playing host to demons, to Holy Spirit.It's a lousy deal, the hands dealt down here, to so many who have received them.You can lose decades doing the, "right thing."Stinkers can cr-p all over good people and seeming fly free to have enjoyable lives.It IS a war. Michael, angel, in going to see one of God's prophets, was far from punctual and on time. Rather, he offered that his delay was the result of being opposed by the Prince Of Persia. A distinct reference to a powerful fallen angel that had come against him.Satan means Opposer. Literally.He is called the prince of this world.And that he stands judged as such.And people, it is going to get much worse, and in our time.Satan will wage war against the Saints and overcome them.It is a crummy picture.The promises from Holy Spirit, in response to prayer, usually run along much the same lines, being nearly always a promise for the future. Which does precious little in the suffering, which as stated previously, can go on for decades.Sometimes those promises are especially disappointing when made for near future and they Just Don't Come Through.Is God really that compromised with The Fall?It is bleak, to be sure, for all engaged down here on the ground.God IS real. I know through experience, not just faith.But I sure have had my bit-h sessions with the lousy care. As we are told to test God, I have, and either a negligent or weak father has been the result.Something is terribly wrong, and it not just with us down here on the ground.There is a magnificent rift in the celestial regions which HAS seemingly compromised God's short term abilities, though we are assured that ultimately all will be restored in full.I'm tired of all this crud.I'm for getting this show on the road.Bring it down, to a close, and get on with it sooner rather than later.