azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

No. The sun gives the appearance of rising and falling due to the rotation of the earth as it orbits the sun. Babies breathing, limitless number of species, unique behaviours and the fact that I'm a thinking feeling soul are all due to the power of evolution; not a god.And things such as "the ocean only comes just so far" are backwards thinking; as if the earth is here for us rather than we being here because the conditions of the earth allowed it.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: fear

Shhh! X don't tell them the Earth rotates. They'll get scarred, and start clinging on to things so they don't fall off...
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

No, I am a living human because my parents wanted kids. The soul is once again a creation of early humans to explain and comfort the unease torwards death. We are different because no DNA strand ever copies exactly the same. This is called mutation. Stop reguarding religion as the only truth. Science can coexist with God and/or religion. Religion and/or God cannot coexist with science. End game.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

A thing that doesn't exist can't love.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

I see some people that go to church every week of their lives and never get an ounce of good luck and then I see those people who are agnostic and have life good. I think being of any religion takes up way too much time and is not worth it because one cannot communicate with G-d to even see if what we are doing is to His pleasure or not. So for all we know people of the agnostic faith may have chosen the right path.I think the only thing we do know is that Christians during the Crusades and Muslim terrorists are in the wrong no matter what.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

that is true . if god loved us then why the fuck would he make rapes , molestations and murders go on if he knew it was gonna happen before hand . religion is false live in anarchy
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

God gives people choice. Otherwise if everyone was going to heaven anyways, the plan would be pointless.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

I have seen good and bad things in the world. But not once have I seen god get off his high throne to help. I have seen the good in people. At most God made a scientific universe and is distant. That is why he does not love us. We are his experiment.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

Oh me, Oh my! I didn't realize that THIS was in the bible, read this: However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)Oh My! God has been a very naughty person lately, with all those slaves... Seriously, Christians, do you really believe God is all good and nice? If you hate slavery (Not to mention sexism), then you will hate this verse in the bible but uh-oh, the bible happens to be the word of God, so if you hate slavery (Which is the most evil thing ever) then You.Would.Deny.The.WORD.OF.GOD!!! Ooooooohh Snaaaaaapp! If you even attempt to justify this, then you are hopeless and a slaver okay? There is no way to ignore this unless you love slavery, okay? Uugh, but I know there must be slavers out there who would negatively reply to this anyway, so do your worst. :P
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

I'm pretty much on this side out of spite. I'm not even certain this God exists. Not saying no god at all exists, just not the Christian one.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: crazy

Joecavalry - "God deosn't show his affection the way that we want him to." Is a reach-around to much to ask? God, you've been effing me in the ass this whole time, all I ask for is a reach-around!
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: spider

Here’s empirical proof there is no just or loving god.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: cheer up god loves you

hhhhahaha okay thats funny.But see god gives people choice. So that "oh look at this horrible act, how can there be a god" argument is weak. And if spiders didn't exist, insects would rule the earth and kill us all.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: big foot

Correct. Neither do the Easter Bunny, Santa Clause, or the Boogey Man. They're all made up. Big Foots real though, I SEEN HIM! He doesn't love us either though.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

God could stop babies dying but he obviously chooses not to therefore, he doesn't love us.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

That proves nothing. We could all kill ourselves simply over this question of God. That is not God's work, but ours. Babies sadly die because of accidents or genetic problems at birth. Not because some God is involved.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

And what age of human life does deserve to be saved? Maybe He loves us so much that He is limiting the amount of people on this planet so that we won't die off like those of our predecessors due to too many people.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

God knows everything and he can do anything. It is purported by most religions especially Christianity that God loves us. If we are to take the meaning of love as love, why then are babies born daily with horrifying diseases and deformities?Suppose I could create life and created a dozen creatures. I love these creatures - they are my creation. Now suppose further that one day, I create one of the creatures with an excruciating disease the effect of which kills the creature in it's infancy. Believing me (rightly) to be all-powerful, how do you suppose the creatures witnessing the event would view me subsequently?
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

Why doesn't he just not fertalise the egg, or cause a miscarriage?Also, the argument regarding age would mean that abortion is OK, which according to the godly people, it clearly isn't.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

So, in the name of population control, god makes people suffer for years with cancer and disease before allowing them to die? Why not just keep a woman from conceiving in the first place?
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: No god equals no love

If he did he would ahve found a way to make us not so hostile oward each other and he would get rid of all the abd people out there who sohlud go to hell for killing,lying,stealing,etc. Why would he let what he created destory itself?
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

He's god - he can do what he wants. He doesn't have to comply with your notions.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

wrong he can not miss with freewill just like i cant make people say my god is right and their doesn't exist
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

God doesn't show his affection the way that we want him to. That doesn't mean he doesn't love us. Think about your kids when they say, "You don't love me!" Is it that you don't love them or that you just don't show your love for them the way they want you to? You don't give a child everything that he wants; that's not love. Well, God's the same way.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

I agree. God loves us enough not to spoil us, and as the saying goes, "God works in mysterious ways".
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

'God works in mysterious ways' is the theological equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears and singing "la la la la la."Does he love all the people who die of cancer? All the people who die in natural disasters? All the people who caught the bubonic plague?
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

Well then he must of wanted those people closer to him sooner. He promised us salvation from suffering on earth. I think everything happens for a reason.And don't ask me if he loves people who die from cancer. My grandma died from liver cancer, and yeah it hurt me like crazy, but now she isn't hurting, and that's a good thing.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

But why exactly are we suffering on earth at the hands of god? He made the earth, right, so why does he then save us from the suffering he created?And I'm sorry to hear about your grandma. I won't persue that line of argument.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Yes I know that He does love us

Because people on earth need to learn how to appreciate the things we do and don't understand. We need to learn faith, and where we want to end up in the future and when we die.And it is said in the bible that heaven is going to be something so much more miraculous and wonderful than earth.Because of that, I believe that we must learn what pain is and learn what it feels like to get hurt, that way we can truly be grateful for the kingdom of God.He makes it hard on us, so that it's worth it in the end.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

But some people don't suffer anywhere near as much as others. Do those people not truly appreciate heaven? And as I said before, if god is all-knowing he knows beforehand who will and won't learn these lessons from life. He is making them suffer for nothing. The idea that god dishes out hurt to make us appreciate the good he is then going to give us is a bit sick, especially when he knows beforehand who will and won't make it to heaven.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

I don't think i can say whether or not those people will or will not truly appreciate heaven because it's impossible to try and reach a person after they die and be like "HEY are you appreciating what God is giving you now?", you know?And He isn't making them suffer for nothing because with life on earth he gave us the gift of free will, where we are free to accept or reject the belief of God. I'm imagine those who choose to reject must have a slightly more optimistic view on life since they don't think they need to believe in someone that will make their lives better.God loves us too much to force us into believing in him, and it seems like your saying free will is sick more than God is sick.I believe in God, and life is hard (which I realize i probably can't say since I am still a teenager), but I find it rather comforting to believe that there's something so much better for us in the end.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

"And He isn't making them suffer for nothing because with life on earth he gave us the gift of free will, where we are free to accept or reject the belief of God."Right. We've hit the nail on the head now. The point I'm making is that if god is all-knowing, how can we have free will? He already knows which choices we are going to make and who is and isn't going to believe in him. There is no free will with an all-knowing god.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

God loves us too much to force us into believing in him.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

You've ignored the point.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

No, I didn't. You asked how can we have free will, and I answered.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

So you admit that he isn't all knowing then?
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

No, I don't. I believe he IS all knowing. he knows people won't believe him, and he's ohkay with that. Because whether or not a person chooses to make things easier on themselves is their choice but he's not going to be the one that yells CONVERT I WILL SAVE YOU or some other ishh like that.When God created things he reflected and said they were good. He knew that mankind would develop their own thoughts and would start disobeying but he doesnt want to be the person that turns into a tyrant and he wanted everyone to think for themselves.Which is why he gave us free will. He knows people won't agree with everything he wants to teach us, but like i said probably about three times already, God loves us too much to think for us.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

I think you're really missing the point here. You can't have free will AND an all-knowing god. If god is all-knowing then he already knows the choices we are going to make, which eliminates any free will we may have. You're arguing something completely different to what I'm saying. Whether he loves us too much to think for us is completely besides the point. The fact is that he already knows which choices we are going to make before we make them... therefore these "tests" that we undergo are just unnecessarily cruel punishment.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

So i guess it's understood that you won't comprehend what i say the way i see it and i just won't comprehend what you say the way you say it. Because if i believe you can have free will AND an all-knowing God and support it the only way i know how and you think otherwise and support it with how you see things then there is really nothing to argue about anymore cuz neither of us will accept what the other has to say.good day. i'm finished.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

Not really. I won't comprehend what you're saying because there is no evidence, no logical reasoning, etc. In fact, it completely goes against the logical reasoning that I'm presenting to you. My argument is based on logical reasoning which you're choosing to ignore and not answer, and yours isn't.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

We are suffering because of our own decisions. When God created us he let us choose our own decision. He doesn't want us to be forced to love him he wants us to love him on our decision. Just like we don't have to love our parents but most of us do on our own decision.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

Did God love the 229,000 people killed in the 2004 Indian Ocean tsunami?
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

just because they were killed doesn't mean that they weren't loved by God.if anything, he loved them so much that he wanted them closer to him sooner.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

Your god is a spiteful piece of work then. To create those people so that they can then suffer a horrendous death just to get them closer to him again. Selfish? Unnecessary? Why didn't he just take them all in their sleep? Your argument is flawed and would make more sense (assuming that gods exist for a moment) if the reverse were true, that he hated them.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

HAAH. you know what ? I'm just going to stop arguing with the atheists that go on this debate; each one has been so condescending to the Christian and Jewish beliefs.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

I'm sorry, but this is a debating website, where simple "because I think so" just doesn't do it. If you want an argument to be accepted, you have to back it up. Questioning your beliefs and the reasons for them you are providing is not condescending; it's simply a part of the site. If you're having trouble justifying your belief to other people, maybe you should start questioning it yourself rather than personally attacking those you are debating with.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

I try hard in my posts not to be condescending to any faith, in a way that I think, believers do not, I try to ensure that I don't single out any particular belief. For instance using "God" implies that Buddhists, Hindus, or Pagans are wrong. Watch out for it, believers do it a lot. To me religion is the same as politics, music, art, whatever, it's all fair game to be discussed, and generally picked apart with logic.I meant only what I said in the light of "debate".Video is funny, but the way Americans whoop at (anti atheist) point scoring rather than laugh at something that's funny, reminds me of school kids ganging up, know what I mean?
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

Oh, I see.And yeah, I thought the joke was really fucked up but at the same time I couldn't help but laugh at his train of thought.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

So for instance, god killed three children because he loved them so much he wanted them closer, sooner. Does this demonstrate his love for the children's parents? They're devastated, whether the children wanted to be separated from their parents is up for debate. If this is love then we've got the definition wrong.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

the tsunami has nothing to do with it. a tsunami is a natural disaster not a consequence of god apparently not loving us.god may watch us make bad choices and watch us be sick and die and what not but it is all in the path of life.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

It seems that your definition of love is hate. Don't look out for love, what do you say
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

Very true. He does not need show his love because he created us in his image, thus we are images of god and he'd have to love us inorde to do that.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

i think so... how are we here if he didnt? he would have just killed us all off....
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Man Creates God

This is just an imagination.................................... god is not there it is a imaginary figure created by the humans...........
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

The "problem of evil" as its classically argued seems to do more to perpetuate a complacent whining about the current state of our world rather than inspiring an active move against the oppression, injustice, and evil that plaques our neighbors. I think it works as far as the confines of its own logic to negate the presence of an supernatural being that is "in control" of the cosmos, but it assumes a completely docile, indifferent, and helpless human species that is utterly paralyzed when faced with its own depravity. Thus, the problem of evil serves no practical purpose save to tickle the intellectual fancies of those who get their rocks off sitting around in libraries and coffeeshops endlessly debating these issues while the world around them crumbles into oblivion.On the other hand, I find it equally distressing when the bible or another religious text is the immediate recourse to establish the existence and/or omnibenevolence of God as if the bible were a counterpart to science or vice versa. The bible (or any other religious text) are human words inspired by the religious experience of human groups wrestling with their historical existence amid forces that were and still are completely outside of our control or knowledge (and always will be in one way or another.)In the process of wrestling through their existence, these writers, minds, characters, and stories resonate with deep-seeded and (in many ways) universal expressions of what it means to be a human being in this world among other human beings among other living beings between the earth and the sky. Religious belief in God or the gods, and the hope and prayer that this God or gods we believe in is/are in fact good, is a step "in faith" towards the ultimate desire that I, you, we, or they are good and can strive for peace with one another. For a massive portion of the world's population, a external source of goodness offers a motivating impulse to aspire to the same in their own lives. A philosophical or scientific argument that intends to reject the metaphysical plane of ethical accountability has a very difficult time establishing a solid ethical ground anywhere else and leaves the responsibility of human individuals to each other fragile and broken setting the stage for horribly destructive consequences.Hence, until the problem of evil, or science, or strict humanism find a solid ethical foundation that motivates action, we have what we have (though not rid of its own contradictions) in the belief or faith that God is good.(Please let me know if you got another option that makes me care about what happens to me or you. I'd love to know.)
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: free will

First, I don't know that an all-benevolent god is a core belief of Christianity. Neither the Nicene or apostle's creed states that god is benevolent. But that's not the question.Why must it be that if a perfectly good god exists, then evil could not exist? I'm going to repeat the free will argument. Assuming god exists and is completely benevolent, then the greatest gift he could give us would be the freedom to determine our own lives. Otherwise we'd be nothing more than little robots with everything preprogrammed. Evil exists because some people choose to be evil. It's there as a reminder that we have free will.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

But if he's all-knowing, then he knows before hand who will and won't choose it. That's a bit of a sick puppet game to be honest, and completely takes away from free will.I'll say it again, he can't be all-knowing, all-powerful and all-loving.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

The apologists would say that our lives in the face of eternity are vanishingly small (literally, actually) and that like the pain of innoculation, suffering now will enable us (in some way) in perpetuity. After death, conveniently enough.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: the inconsistent triad

True, but how we act here on earth directly affects our after-life. The choices we make here ensure entry to either heaven or hell. But god is all-knowing, so therefore knows already which choices we will make. So those who do not accept god and jesus and end up in hell never ever had the chance to do any different. We were stuck on earth to suffer evils, only to suffer an eternity of evils after death. The very concept of god (especially the old testement god) is pretty sick when you really think about it.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

I thought grace got us into heaven?
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: free will

Wouldn't it be logical to state that we have free will despite God's all-knowing nature? God may know our decisions ahead of time but they are still our decisions to make. Being aware of something and controlling it are two different things.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

But if he made us and knows our decisions then he therefore made us to do things. Thats controlling.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Wrong.

God knows what will happen but he does not inhibit on what you do. He is all loving because every human is made in his image.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: cheer up god loves you

You are wrong. God is an omniscient being, and he does love all of us.But that does not take away from free will. Just because he knows what we will do, doesn't mean that we can't make our own choices.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

Evil exists because any species seeks to gain the most benefit at the expense of others. This is called greed. Morals arise naturally when a species begins to comprehend and think about itself and the species as a whole. To answer your question, because an all powerful, all good, all loving and forgiving god would surely not create freewill that leads to evil. Furthermore, freewill cannot exist if god is all knowing.
Debate: God doesn't love us.
Side: Correct.

The argument of free will does not justify physical evils in the world. Physical evils like earthquake, flood, disease. I do not get to choose whether or not I am the victim of disaster. It's simply the mechanics of this world. It does not follow that a loving god would create a planet that destroys us and causes us to suffer. Nothing in your free will argument will ever explain why god created viruses that feed on human flesh.