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Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

When you operate outside social norms you are classified as a Deviant. Your anus or a plastic/steel/wooden rod is not a sexual organ; therefore using them in a sexual act should be considered abnormal, shouldn't it? Having anal sex is like trying to eat food with your eyes (it just was not design for that). The normal curve is used in all fields of studies to classify what is acceptable and what's not. It also determines when mechanical plants are to be changed, unearths systematic errors and blunders. Of special concern are systematic errors, which are frequently caused by miscalibration. This error in a system also produces normal curve, but skewed. Thus, shifting the goal post thereby making previously deviance behaviour acceptable. That’s why you (ChadOnSunday221) can no longer see that gay marriages are immoral and unethical; it was a slide of hands. Attempting to make us believe that homosexuality is an identity and not a choice was the tactical manoeuvre. Where will this post be in the future, who knows? Chad we may wake up one morning a discover that rape, child porn, sex with animals, lowered age of consent, etc. are now social norms.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

Okay, so the behavior of the minority is abnormal, abnormal is deviant, and deviant behavior often isn't accepted by the majority. This is what you've established, and I don't disagree with it. But nowhere have you done anything to show why the behavior of the minority is unethical and immoral simply because it is deviant. You haven't shown abnormal behavior to be unacceptable, just stated that it is frequently unaccepted - by people like you.I suppose the once deviant notion that a woman's word was equal to that of a man's, the abnormal view that women should be allowed to vote and own property was just "a slide of hands" by the women's rights movement. And, of course, if we apply your logic evenly, this makes them immoral and unethical for perpetrating deviant behavior. Godforbid we see it as social progress, it was something new and different, how could it be? Your slippery slope argument comes off more like paranoia. If you cant make the distinction between rape and homosexuality simply because they are both actions of the minority, you must live in a very frightening world.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

Chad what your concept of ethics and morality? I do not understand your point of view.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

Stanford puts it better than I can:The term “morality” can be used either descriptively to refer to some codes of conduct put forward by a society or, some other group, such as a religion, or accepted by an individual for her own behavior or normatively to refer to a code of conduct that, given specified conditions, would be put forward by all rational persons.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

Okay good Chad, let us apply this definition to my previous contentious argument with you. I argued that anal sex and also using a plastic/wooden/steel rod in a sexual act are irrational. Further Chad, when we are aroused, our body reacts by producing lubrication in preparation for intercourse. Therefore using other body parts in sexual acts are irrational, don't you think? Morality constrains us, it qualifies right and wrong, it not alien to us it's built-in, coded, programming into our humanity. The concept of the original position is based upon this inalienable human trait. Moralism (which we both obviously hate) is a bully, it attempts to devour and threaten others. Therefore don't confuse morality which is innate with the hypocritical self-promoting moralism. In addition Chad, my view is in the minority now, because of the shifting goal post, look at the Argument Ratio or the Debate info above.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

I just find it unfair for a young kid to be adopted by a gay couple. The most probable thing is that the kid will follow the couples beliefs in sexuality...... Remember "The Land of the Free?"
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

First of all, that is not how being raised by gay parents works, and you are still not saying what the problem with gay people is. Is it really so bad that they might make more people gay. That is like saying that straight couples should not be allowed together because they might raise a straight child. And aren't you kind of contradicting yourself with that last bit? "The Land of the Free"? That means free for everyone, not just straight people. I'm sorry, but I think you have a very poorly formed argument.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

Does this apply to incestuous gay marriage as well?I like you post, just something to think about from a different debate.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

Your blind. Dumb noob. Why don't you go and say "abortion doesn't hurt anyone". Hypocrite.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

Your blindTwice in two posts you've confused the possessive pronoun with the contraction of you and are, which is a grammatical mistake most people stop making by the 7th grade.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

I highly doubt it. But I know ur just a hypocrite. So I'll not respond anymore after this. Try and clear ur eyes with the natural aura.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

It is the United States Constitution’s Separation of Church and State which describes same gender marriage as illegal this is due to how it directs a witness under State authority. Ignoring the open plagiarism taking places, so we do not to drag out the many sides of this debate. A constitutional example of a title for two men who are making an agreement publicly so it can be witnessed is Binivir. See it is not sexually explicit and does not make an innuendo.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

Gay marriage has its repercussions in the long run. It is not how God designed us so therefore it gives a bad cultural influence to our children. Gay marriage is not something new and it has been prominent in past history. It was especially prominent in days before the fall of empires. For example the Roman empire? History is just repeating itself.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

I am not against same-sex partnerships, but they, particularly homosexual men, need to know how to apply safety precautions to prevent infection or bodily illnesses.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

There is also a separation between public and private. Making your private wants a public issue is an abuse of government. If you don't want your morals policed keep them where everyone else keeps them. Private. If I wanted to get a tattoo, a perfectly legal decision on my part, and then had a public debate on the values of getting tattoos, do you think I should be surprised if some people disagreed with me? And then, should I cry out that the government is abusing its power?
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

Exactly! Keep straight marriage a private thing too! Either take it out of the church or take it out of our government. I don't want to see you hold your wifes hand, or even look at her. In fact, lets kinda dab a little into what Middle Eastern Countries are doing, huh? Put a sheet over her and if anyone asks, she's not your wife... she's just a thing. Gay marriage and everything that goes along with marriage can't be kept private because the Right-Wing is making such a big deal about it.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

I am a straight Christian and support gay marriage. Why? Simple. Separation of church and state. Gay marriage opposition states that they want to preserve the sanctity of marriage. Let's look at the definition of sanctity: the quality or state of being holy or sacred. That tells me: you cannot preserve the holiness of an act that is governed by the law. That is a violation of church and state. If someone, a Christian or other religious person, wants to get married under the eyes of God in their church, then fine. But it is not our place to impede upon the rights of others that want to be married under the eyes of the law. Or even God, for that matter. I know many gay Christians. It is not our place to judge others or take away from them. Prop 8 is threatening to take away the rights of 18,000 ALREADY MARRIED couples. And all because our religious views clash with their lifestyles. This is not our battle. I support gay marriage, and I support my gay married friends and will continue to fight with them for their equality.Gay marriage does not hurt anyone except those of whom we are stripping away rights. There is no way to prove that gay marriage would impose upon our children in our schools. And besides, kids are going to learn about it anyway, right? Look at MTV right now. You think these kids don't know what's going on?
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

I applaud your ability to not impose your personal beliefs on others. If only more religious people could be like you.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

I have noticed that many non-religious people impose their personal "religious" views on others. For example, I would like to see them support polygamy for consenting adults. Despite denying being religious, they want to impose their views on others by denying polygamists the right to marry.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

This is a brilliant statement, and I have to agree with you on this.I'm straight and currently have no defined religion (only one born of personal beliefs that has no name) but I don't see the problem with same sex marriage. For this, I use the same philosophy as in every part of my life: If what someone is doing doesn't hurt anyone else, they can keep doing it. Gay marriage isn't exactly killing anyone, people should put their effort into issues that actually matter instead of denying happy couples their right to be legally married.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

Your rights are endowed by the creator, and they exist as long as they dont infringe on anothers rights, actually when I was growing up they taught this in school, I guess they dont anymore. Marriage is not a right, but if it were they would have the same right I do to marry someone of the opposite sex, what they are asking for is a special right, this is unconstitutional according to the 14th amendment. All that aside allowing gay marriage hurts many people in many ways, and infringes on religious freedom, because it will now demand people and churches who find it morally objectionable and a sin will now be forced to not only condone it but to fund it through taxation which is the real objective of this law, along with indoctrination. Just check the lawsuits piling up against business owners (liberals favorite target) even small ones who chose to deny services to a gay wedding, florists, cake decorators, photographers, even churches, many are being sued on court now because of this and will be forced out of business. So tell me who is being hurt?
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

Except there is no such thing as a "separation of church and state," so your entire argument is moot. If there were this "separation," then the federal government wouldn't be allowed to enforce their laws on churches, like telling churches they're not allowed to talk about politics. And yet the federal government DOES punish churches from talking about politics. Of course, the moment something religious enters into public territory, the federal government wastes no time in condemning it like the hypocrites that they are. My point, though, is that "separation of church and state" is nowhere in any of our founding documents. Nowhere. It is a myth. When the Constitution was ratified, many states had their own established religions and NONE of the Founders had any problem with this. They approved of established state religions! The First Amendment merely says that CONGRESS cannot establish any religion. Congress deals with federal laws, not state laws. So it is the federal government that cannot establish a nationwide religion. States, however, can. The Tenth Amendment says that anything NOT talked about elsewhere in the Constitution is up to the states. This means gay marriage, for one thing. Meaning that a federal BAN on gay marriage is unconstitutional; but so is a federal law ALLOWING gay marriage. Gay marriage is not in the Constitution, so it is up to each individual state to decide.I do find it interesting, though, that you're a Christian and yet you support something that the founder of your religion did not support. Jesus'd be proud.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

But what you are missing in my opinion, is that even if the constitution does not have a specific reference to separation of church and state, does that really make it OKAY to completely ignore that idea? If we just blindly followed everything the Constitution says, wouldn't we still have prohibition of alcohol, and wouldn't it be up to the states whether or not women and minorities not have the right to vote? Those were all changed in amendments. And I personally would support an amendment SPECIFYING a separation of church and state. What you talk about, people enforcing that churches do not talk about politics, I have never heard that before, but if it's true, the solution is not to say that because they can do that, you can ban gay marriage, the solution is to day that you should not be able to ban gay marriage and they can not enforce churches to not talk about politics. You're moving in the complete wrong direction, not in the right one. Without a separation of church and state, you get a government that influences its people or even forces its people to do things against their own religion.I think you deeply do not understand the phrase "separation of church and state". It does not mean that one can not make references to politics or the state in church as you seem to imply, or even that one can not make references to the church in public funded buildings. What it means is that publicly funded things like schools, and any kind of government facility including courthouses, can not express support for, or utilize public prayers, or anything similar regarding religion, and yes that includes Atheism. A separation is not state-sponsored Atheism, as they are also not allowed to show support for a disbelief in God. A separation of church and state simply means that they can not coerce the people or force them into any kind of religion.I think that your desire to ban gay marriage is what's really wrong and unconstitutional here. If a gay Christian wants to marry his partner, is it not a violation of the free exercise clause of the constitution to not allow him to do so, that is, if you really believe marriage is a religious institution? My main point as a Libertarian, is that marriage is simply voluntary human relations. As long as it's voluntary, you have no right to step in on people's personal lives and tell them how to live their own life.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

Do you also support polygamy among consenting adults only? If not, you are allowing your church to interfere with the state.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

Amen to that. I agree .
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

ur catholic or what? A christian that dosent see a problem with Gay marriage is not christian. As homosexuality is against the bible's principles. I agreed with you until you started talking about how it hurts no one but stripping away rights. I agree with you hlf way..But the Bible says sin is detrimental to most evryone while sexual sins are sins against ones own body. do you believe in Sin? or are you one of those watered-down christians? I agree in speration of church and state, And that ppl should be able to make their own choices.. But seriously....
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

You can be a Christian and still believe in gay marriage. Would Jesus, who would open his arms to everyone, even lepers, shun gays? No.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

The Bible considers homosexuality to be morally incorrect, and thus a sin.Leviticus 20:13: If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.Romans 1:27: Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.1 Corinthians 6:9: Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

Amen. Thank you for clarifying what i was trying to for many years.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

Wrong. That's what all the false believers think and you are one of them. God never made Adam and Steve, He made Adam & Eve. So your argument is invalid. "Progressive New Age" Christianity does not and will not be recognized.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

Um.... Jesus wouldn't shun gays. But you forget this. ''Go and sin no more.'' He did not tell the adulterer.. ''its ok. You werent stoned because you didnt deserve it!'' He said'' He who has not sinned throw the first stone.'' and AFTER this he said GO and sin NO MORE. You are clearly a twister of ideologies.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

Why is being gay a sin? Furthermore, why should one religious perspective be allowed to dominate over the combined perspectives of anyone who does not follow that religion?
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

I am catholic and have been raised in a catholic church for many years and my church doesn't support gay rights. I do this thing called questioning my faith because i am using common sense. I believe that people have a right to marry who they love. Why is this even a debate? Why do people have a problem with others loving one another when it doesn't affect them in any way? I depend more on what my heart believes then what PEOPLE on EARTH say because the words could be changed. Jesus might have said something completely different than what the bible says. We never know. Sorry if that makes me a bad catholic but that's what i believe.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

Straight people love to pull morality and self righteous dogma from their religions and throw them into this argument but it just doesn't fly anymore. Gay marriage hurts no one in any way whatsoever. From all the studies they've done through the years plus the definitive information that was culled from the brains of dead AIDS patients, it is a fact that there is a center of the brain that is much different than that of the heterosexual, that it can no longer be denied. We're different than you are.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

I agree with what you said above, but I am curious, and don't have time to do a literature search (because I am currently doing one of my own for my real job =), do you have the reference to the brain argument? Is it a physiological difference or a genetic difference between hetero- and homosexuals? Is this the case for all of them? At what age does this "kick in"? I am just trying to learn, it is some thing that I have been interested in, I am not trying to be disrespectful or pick on details. =)
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

I'll search for the links to the findings and get back to you. This began several years ago when they began doing full autopsies on HIV/AIDS patients that had succumbed to the disease via cancer, pneumonia and a host of other diseases. It was the first time anyone in the medical field was alerted to that phenomenon. It's both a shame and a blessing that they were able to recognize this for the first time. In the very beginning it was only on men since they were dying in astounding numbers. I'll find as many links as I can and get them to you Kirstie.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

Thanks! You don't have to go too crazy and take up too much of your time, it is just that I was really curious as to what science has been done on this topic.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

That's good...but I find I don't have the time or inclination to look it all up for you as I said I would. If you don't believe it then look it up and refute those of us who know it to be true.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

Then if you're different pick a different word. Traditionally marriage has meant a union between a man and a woman. To use the same word for same sex partners dilutes the word and makes it less descriptive. It also pisses of the religious right and makes for great CD fodder ;)You claim to be different but you want to seen as the same. That doesn't make any sense to me. Let us see you as different and accept you for what you are. There's no need to put a requirement forcing us to see you as the same.BTW, claiming that gays are genetetically different and supporting genetic engeneering means that someday some one will want to eradicate the gay gene. It's a two edge sword that cuts both ways. You have to love it ;)Remember, vote twice, vote often ;)
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

That is exactly the caliber of response I would expect from a homophobic person. Pick a different word? Different from what? Marriage? I don't care if tradition has heretofore dictated a union between a man and a woman because, guess what? Tradition is on the verge of being expanded to incorporate homosexuals as well and it's high time. We are different from the majority of people that live on this earth insofar as we are only attracted to our own sex but we are also the same in many ways if not every other way. In another post I told you that we have already shown you how we are different and you couldn't or wouldn't accept that. I'm not forcing you or the world to do anything Joe. When the final votes are in and tallied and we win, bit by bit and mile by mile...you and the rest will see you had nothing to fear, nothing to object to and nothing to lose. You and millions of others will see how alike we really are.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

Yeah, bite me ;)
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

No thanks...That would be like biting a sesame seed. I like to be able to see what I bite and it also has to be clean.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

OK, whatever. Don't bite me ;)