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Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

"Progressive New Age" Christianity doesn't exist. Jesus prophesied of false believers such as you preaching loudly on the streets. Hypocrites you are. Don't you dare claim you are a believer and still support homosexuality. You, chg9389, are no doubt a luciferian cultist and you will be punished by God's Angel of Vengeance. You are declared a blasphemer, truthphobe, heterophobe and a Christophobe.I am a true believer in Christ. God the Father instated marriage to be ONLY and EXCLUSIVELY between a biological man and a biological woman. It IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE A UNIVERSAL OBJECTIVE TRUTH. My testimony stands incorruptible in the face of your verbal persecution."I'm also a Christian, and my church teaches that most certainly is. Don't you dare impose your bigotry as some great universal "Christian" teaching, because it IS NOT." - What did the God of Abraham say to Moses about His Ten Commandments? That's right, I can recite it, I bet you would REFUSE BECAUSE YOU'RE THE TYPE TO CHANGE UP THE BIBLE AS YOU WANT IT. Thou Shalt Not Worship Any False Idols nor gods for I am the Lord, your God.THOU SHALT NOT LIE!!Honor thy Mother and FatherThou Shalt Not MurderThou Shalt Not StealThou Shalt Love Thy Enemy as Thy NeighborThou Shalt Not use Foul LanguageThou Shalt Not Commit AdulteryThou Shalt Not Bear False Witness Against Thy NeighborThou Shalt Not Covet Another Man's WifeSome men steal other men's wives, some women even steal away men's wives. Some men steal other women's husbands, some women even steal away other women's husbands. Then there are the homosexuals who steal away husbands and wives, destroying the family structure. So yes, homosexuality hurts society on a wide scale while many will ignore that. #banhomosexualitynow2024
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

So how does this hurt people? I have a religion that says being Christian is an abomination, does that mean I can outlaw Christianity?The Bible says a lot of crazy shit. You can't touch pigskin with your bare hands, you can't work on sunday etc... But my favorite is the one that says you're allowed to beat your slave to death so long as it takes longer then a day...
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

So you are a Christophobe hm, andsoccer16? I happen to be a Christian and I do not fear you. I will say this, the LORD will put the wicked down, that includes people like you who hate on us believers, yet you claim to be righteous? Nay. You are a hypocrite and the abomination. You will face the Judgement of the LORD Himself.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

it would upset me
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

of course it does
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

very eloquent. why does it hurt you? 2 gay men are getting the same benefits a married couple would get, and the same benefits they would get if each of them would be married to a woman respectively
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

The idea that human affairs of importance can be simply based on emotional subjective feelings is the rock on which it founders.Humanity has advanced according to the understanding he has of the laws which govern everything around us ,from the turning of the planets, the cells in our bodies, the plants on the earth.We have learned to understood and use the laws of flight, of engineering etc to bring about advancements in our society.Everything is underpinned by laws and although many people quote the bible they would be better to quote the laws of god as seen in science.When we seriously break these laws we descend.Most of us 'sin by breaking laws which allow us to live and exist and evolve in the universe .At this time the decisions we make will decide if we survive or not as a society into the future .There are narcissistic and sometomes deliberately malign people who hate that they cannot control these laws in a personal wayand they are determined to undermine that which they cannot control. Marriage or the recognition of the law of energy creativity inherent in the polar opposites of male female is neccessary as a force of good energy and must be encouraged .If we passed laws according to what people'felt'and not what is creative and good we would be back in the cave .Since there is no benefit to society one has to ask why 'they' want to get married,perhaps to undermine what they 'hate'.After all if it is simply a social recognition a personal party etc is their free choice. If we go this route with them socety will unwind and that is the main purpose[ concious in most cases].
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

Stop trying to sound smart because you come off looking like an idiot. Homosexuality is genetic, and therefore evolved. Look at animals, many species of mammals reptiles and fish have members that are homosexual. How can something be going against nature if it can be found so prevalently in nature?
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

"Homosexuality is genetic, and therefore evolved."Without looking into this in more detail, my knowledge of evolution is telling me that this isn't right. Homosexuality in humans is generally exclusive. How does exclusive homosexuality become an inherited trait subject to evolution if it is not passed on to a new generation? It may have evolved to a point (as non-exclusive homosexuality is visible in nature), but would have been instantly wiped out as soon as human intellect and emotion took over leading to exclusive homosexuality. I believe homosexuality is a hormonal inbalance, but certainly can't see it as an evolved trait."How can something be going against nature if it can be found so prevalently in nature?"Homosexuality in nature is not exclusive, so would provide no detremental effect to a species if homosexuality was practised only when no "straight" sex is possible. In this instance an evolved homosexual trait may exist, though I'm far more comfortable with the idea of hormonal inbalances as with humans.I may be wrong though. As I say, this just seemed wrong on my current knowledge of evolution. I'll have to seek out some evidence either way before commiting to the "hormonal inbalance" view of homosexuality over an evolved trait.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

The trait could be passed on if it only manifests in a small percent of the organisms carrying the trait. If there's a gene that randomly causes homosexuality in 10% of it's carriers, and it turns out that homosexuality is a benefit to the population as a whole, then evolution applies. Like the video says, looking at evolution on an individual scale is like looking at one pixel on your monitor. You have to look at the whole thing to get the full picture. An occasional hormonal imbalance leading to homosexuality could be seen as an evolved trait.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

"If there's a gene that randomly causes homosexuality in 10% of it's carriers, and it turns out that homosexuality is a benefit to the population as a whole, then evolution applies."I believe the "what's good for the group" model of evolution has been firmly discredited, and is a common misunderstanding of evolutionary behaviour.Firstly, let me address the concept of a gene. What constitues a gene is very subjective, so it is better for us to talk of "units of evolution" so we don't confuse ourselves with thinking about genes as a single entity that controls a single operation. Now, in order for homosexuality to be genetic rather than a simple hormone disbalance, we would have to show that there is a significant grouping of genes into a single homosexual unit of evolution, and that this unit of evolution strives to save itself through purely altruistic methods.Now, the general idea of "what is good for the group" seems at first to be a possible intepretation of evolution in a larger scale. However, the correct interpretation is what is good for the unit of evolution. Altruistic behaviour appears to be of no benefit to an individual, but obviously the trait to do something altruistic would find it very hard to saturate a gene pool; therefore there is absolutely no benefit in saving another over you. If, however, we think purely at the level of the unit of evolution, then we see that apparently unhelpful behaviours (such as an animal informing other animals of an approaching predetor, whilst also making itself more visible to said predator) can saturate a gene pool if the gene is geared up for saving itself.This means realistically that there are two ways for a unit to saturate the gene pool for a certain unit space; it benefits the individual carrying it, or it causes the individual to benefit other individuals who are most likely carrying the same unit of evolution. As homosexuality lends to a lack of saving "itself" (as it wont be passed on), it can only realistically become an evolved trait if it causes altruistic behavior that causes other carriers to be more likely to survive.I know about evolution and I understand all these concepts. The point I'm making is that homosexuality doesn't appear to lend itself to any altruistic behaviour that would benefit people carrying the homosexual unit of evolution. Infact, recognition of other homosexual people in order to better select those to benefit would mean that the other person is also homosexual and therefore less likely to pass on their gene. The main point being made is thus: Altruistic behaviour by a unit of evolution that hunders itself towards units of evolution that also actually hinder their own reproductive potential would be extremely unlikely to saturate the gene pool.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

I am no biologist so my credibility only extends as far as my source's credibility. In this case my source is the video I linked to which is made by a biology student. I have found all of his videos very informative and factually accurate and therefore find no reason to doubt him. If you want to check out his page here it is.http://www.youtube.com/user/DonExodus2Most of his videos are about evolution and debunking creationist arguments.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

i agree, this cannot be "evolved" though, i do think it is genetic (will talk about this next).cant be evolved because- according to darwin, we (animals) evolve so that we can survive and have stronger offspring. gays cant have kids, therefor, why would they have "evolved" into being gay?is genetic - see my previous arguements
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

I can't talk in depth as I'm at work, but suffice to say that is an extremely simple interpretation of evolution.Check out genetic drift.My argument is slightly different. I was actually trying to say that there isn't a "gay gene." My intepretation of it is that there is a gene that controls hormone balance during pregnancy, which can sometimes become faulty and cause homosexuality. It is the fault of an evolved gene, but not a gene exclusively causing homosexuality. Hope that clears it up.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

from what i understand what happens is during pregnancy a boy baby is considered an alien object and so the body fights it, making it more feminen (i dont remember the source but that was what they said) and that after more kids your body gets better at it and so younger siblings are more likely to be gay?
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

That's not really accurate, no. Your body doesn't fight against the production of a male featus. Around the 7 to 12 weeks period, the male featus is exposed to testosterone, which aids in the development of male features and typical male brain development. If this testosterone exposure is in any way hindered, it will cause the male baby to be more feminine.I can't claim to know any reasons why younger siblings are more likely to be gay, unfortunately.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

Wrong. There is no gay gene as proven by science. Marriage and true love is only to be shared between one man and one woman. No trans. No gays. No bis. No lesb. However, perhaps it is a genetic mutation caused by chemical reactions or the environment? Yep. Still, no one is born gay etc. They all make the wrong choice of doing what they do. It's wrong, it brings no kids, it affects kids badly in institutions and it's wrong to indoctrinate them. Not only that, aids/hiv is the result of homosexual behavior and self mutilation of the genitals? It's also wrong. Abortion? It's murder. Every man and woman is born heterosexual. That is the absolute truth. "Homosexuality is not genetic and not evolving. It is demeaningful towards the natural order, unnatural, harmful and devolving aka degeneracy itself in a nutshell. Anyone who supports it is either brainwashed, insane or ignorantly heterophobic and truthphobic and Christophobic."
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

1st. . .the question is not is being gay good, bad or indifferent? It is about gay marriage.For the record I have not one issue with the type, sex, number or racial, religious background of peoples bed, shed or head partners. Consenting adults can consent to anything.So unless someone says "ew your gay!?" stick to the subject please and quit reading even more into the topic than you already are. . .Sure let's use the analogy of the animal kingdom. Sure gay relationships abound. . .but how about a gay mated pair? And even so as animals is this going to function for them as a regular mated pair?
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

What are you talking about? I was responding to the fact that truthfinder said gay marriage went against "laws of god as seen in science." I never stated my opinion as to whether homosexuality was good, bad or neither, either. I was disputing his ideas. Laws should be based on rationality. But how does gay marriage harm anyone? Truthfinder's answer was nonsensical; almost as nonsensical as your questions are. And even so as animals is this going to function for them as a regular mated pair?I can't even respond to that because it makes no sense! From now on, reread what you type and think "what the fuck am I talking about" before you press the submit button. Okay?
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

your proof was there are gay animals.so my response would be how many of them that have mated pairs, are gay mated pairs? If there are would this help or deter their survival?if you could answer this then you would have an analogy that would both answer the topic and your other opponent.chillax
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

Did you watch the video? Gay animals help the survival of their siblings. And to answer your question, yes, there are gay mated pairs.So, yes, I did answer both my opponent and the topic.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

WE DONT HAVE THE SAME GENES AS FISH, WERE NOT FISH AND WE DONT RESEMBLE FISH. SO what if a fish grows up homosexual, doesn't mean a child will.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

I'm pretty sure you didn't understand my point, so allow me to explain myself. Homosexuality is found throughout nature, in numerous species. Therefore, calling homosexuality unnatural would be misleading (at the very least).You are correct that we do not have the same genes as fish. But as I said earlier, homosexuality is prevalent in nature, and therefore must be genetic in all of the species I named (including many mammals, and some primates). Therefore if humans were not born homosexual, then this would make our species an exception.None of this matters however, because we have studied humans, and homosexuality is not a choice. It has to do with a combination of genetics, and hormone levels in the womb.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

http://jenniferandrew6.newsvine.com/_news/2008/11/26/2151090-women-harassed-in-incredible-india-female-genocide-persistent-ogling-heckling-by-indian-men-gender-murder-10- million-baby-girls-killed-before-after-birth until this stops. . .then yes gay marriage can hurt. Marriage protects women. Women are more at risk in this world. . .and the fact there there are places in the world where the hate is against ones gender. . .that a woman can never be free, or even viewed as human. And before you all come back and say "different issue" it is more topical then dragging references to interracial marriage into the debate. And for the record I never heard people say interracial marriage would hurt marriage. . .what I heard was the idea of the children suffering as reasons against it. . .and now that we have a mixed race president they were proved wrong.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

in case you havent noticed....>there are gay women too, i think they are called lesbians.coughcoughso, yeah, 1) marriage does NOT protect women. it gives men more control over them2) women can marry other women too if gay marriage is allowed so there wont be a shortage of men or what ever you are thinking will keep the women from getting married.3) people did say interracial marriage would hurt ppl, thats why black ppl werent even allowed to look at white women with out getting hung. you know, why back when black ppl were getting their rights?well, same thing, different ppl. wich means 4) interracial marriage is very relevant. 5) if you are worried men hurt women, then why not let men marry men and women marry women? then the men will leave the women alone. DUH
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

1. As far as I know marriage isn't for women to be whipped around and be told to make sandwiches, it is to spend the rest of your life with the one person (unless you're mormon) you love the most and to be officially united.2. I agree.3. I hate when people bring nationality and color into this. Sally Sue didn't choose to be white and she can't stop it without harming herself either. Todd James didn't choose to be black either. You people say "we can't choose who we love" but I disagree a bit. I don't think we were supposed to be falling in love with the same sex and if we do feel that attraction it is easy to stop it. This applies with any genders. We are born man or woman (minus a few genetic mutations), not both. There are two genders solely for the reason of reproduction, which is what intercourse was intended for. Not for enjoyment.4. Again, why would you bring the amount of melanin in our skin (as our color is only an adaption of our surroundings) into a discussion about homosexuality? 5. Not all men are some raging savages and if a woman is stupid enough to marry a man like that then she may deserve that relationship. That isn't an excuse to "try something new" and fornicate with Mary Anne down the street.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

On the contrary, interracial marriage is not gay marriage. So you are wrong. Any man and any woman can get married as long as it's mutual. There is also asian male and white female. It's still straight/heterosexual marriage. It only becomes a problem when the wife or husband decide to cheat and worse, become bi or gay or trans. And you know what? Lgbt are the cause of all the chaos and they will face punishment.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

Here's the thing though, interracial marriage is still heterosexual, it's just between a man and a woman from different ethnicities. It doesn't actually bring babies who are born with birth defects. I've seen photos and happy couples of this sort before, whether it's an Asian man and a white woman or let's say a black guy and a white girl or an asian girl with a white guy, it doesn't matter in that case, as long as a man and a woman love each other mutually and plus are over 18 years of age. However with "gay marriage", it doesn't exist, the arse isn't for sex, homosexuality brings aids/hiv for most bisexual and homosexual males. For homosexual and bisexual females, they get hepatitis. Both get infected with STDs and STIs overall. How does it affect the population? Right now that toxic group wants to influence the youth into it and it ruins families, pulling them apart from each other. The toxic group who has already plagarized the two gender symbols and other astrology signs plus stealing the rainbow by removing one colour, indigo, has already proven to be anti-family oriented while thinking they can redefine gender, age and ofc marriage. They deny it but they are hypocrites who want pedophilia. They have a hidden flag.https://factcheck.afp.com/pride-flag-pedophiles-someone-created-one-no-one-waves-it What they love to do is change the subject and deny facts, redawn. If we already list tons of biological and scientifically proven facts over their "so called theories", they scream and play the victims, they act like they know everything and insult us, and than they accuse us falsely of many things like racism etc. I will tell you, my friend & ally, I've seen a video of this man who identified as a "trans woman" who got into a debate with a black man who had lots of common sense within him. The African American male basically held a sign that said marriage is only between a man and a woman and he's objectively correct. He than joked about being a lesbian and than the snowflake was racist by calling him the n word for no reason, called him a bigot and a "homophobe" while the black man wasn't even afraid. The snowflake is a heterophobe, Christophobe and a truthphobe. We need to start listing more facts before the toxic group. The rainbow belongs to God, there are only 2 genders; male and female, created by God and marriage remains heterosexually between a biological man and a biological woman. An anti-STD/anti-STI group against aids/hiv needs to be formed and a group to protect youth.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Doesnt hurt anyone

Wow, you're really grasping at straws here aren't you? Because women are mistreated and female infants are killed in India, we should ban gay marriage? Is this what you're saying? Because, if it is, you're fucking stupid.The issue in India has to do with gender inequality. Gay marriage would actually help the situation for two reasons:1) More homosexual couples would mean more children would be adopted. This means that less female infants would be killed and could but instead could be put up for adoption.2) It would make genders more equal. If a woman can marry a woman and start a family without a man then this empowers women. It means that they don't need men. Honestly I'm pretty sure that I'm not understanding you. Is this a joke? Because I can think of no other reason why you would bring up a completely irrelevant article and say homosexual marriage would exacerbate the problem. Hell, this didn't even happen in America! That doesn't make it any less of an atrocity, but it does make your entire argument irrelevant.
Debate: How can gay marriage hurt any one?
Side: Hurts everyone?

I believe I am allowed my opinion. Human right to have ones own opinion. . not like marriage.I believe the question is harm or no harm.Not grasping at straws. . .women inequality is always been one of my stands.there will be no homosexual couples in a world dominated by the women haters. if you think I am narrow minded and stupid. . .HA!calling me stupid is the quickest way to get me to your side. Good job! you are so smart I am awed.