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Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

Your confusing cultural differences with racial superiority.One is perfectly capable of having a separate culture, and everyone at the same time being treated in equal terms.You are also confusing race in general with culture. In the US, we have the US culture. Of which Africans are a part.Any crime commited by individuals is neither due to culture nor race, it is due to circumstance and will.One can no more say that crime is part of black culture than they can say serial murder is part of white culture - yet statistically nearly every serial killer in history has been white.I would make the same argument had you spewed white racism concerning this fact.I would have replied that it is not by virtue of being white that one is a serial killer, but that the social and economic (and religious in this case) circumstance of a handful of caucasions leads to this anomoly.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

Yes, it would, but only in the technical sense that if you eliminated ANY particular race from America it would be safer, because naturally, people of every race commit crime. I think what you're trying to bait in this question is to what magnitude would America be a safer place? I don't think we can accurately guess that, but statistics show that African-Americans are convicted more per capita than any other race for crime in the US. This is more correlated to socioeconomics than it is to some innate "problem" with African-Americans. But if we're going to be honest and offensive here, there is a cultural of ignorance and anti-intellectualism that unfortunately exists in African-American communities in the US that contributes to this problem as well.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

It would be MUCH safer. Of corse, all the AA's will vote against me because the American government gives them whatever they want.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

Now, this may be radical but hear me out on this. Don't you really think that if we wouldn't have had slaves in the first place, or at least after the Civil War, sent all the African Americans taken as slaves back to where they came from, we could have avoided many of the race tensions and violence experienced throughout American history. Look at today, African American's don't cause violence, unemployed people do. They don't work and depend on wellfare to buy and sell dope. Since most of those living off wellfare are African American, it would be most beneficial if they were not here. This is not because African Americans are inferior, it is because after the Civil War, we set free millions of uneducated people into society and expected them to just fall in line. That is just stupid.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

Brycer2012 linked to FBI statistics which actually prove my point. I doubt anyone will question the authority of the FBI. Well, here are some statistics that come from another source that will doubtlessly be termed as biased because of the nature of the site I found them on. I invite the brighter among you to rip these statistics apart. I don't want to believe the information in this link, so if you can debunk this you'll be doing me a huge favor. I am too intellectually lazy to do so myself. Click on "supporting evidence" below.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

Why would you need to "rip the statistics apart"? White Americans outnumber African Americans by nearly an order of magnitude. It would be almost impossible for any interracial crime statistic to look different (excepting in the degree). It's like pointing out an inter-dexterous statistic that shows more left-handed people commit crimes against right-handed people than right-handed people commit crimes against left-handed people. Up to 90% of the world is right-handed. But, in terms of the raw data, interracial rapes do not account for the majority of rapes. So, white women in general (accounting for the highest number of victims) are more likely to be raped by someone who is White (a family member or friend) than by someone who is Black.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

Here is a short excerpt from the link. Why was black-on-white rape such a rarity in the 50's, but for some reason explodes in the 70's?The contrasts are even more stark in the case of interracial rape. Studies from the late 1950s showed that the vast majority of rapes were same-race offenses. Research in Philadelphia carried out in 1958 and 1960 indicated that of all rapes, only 3.2 percent were black-on-white assaults and 3.6 percent were white-on-black. Since that time, the proportion of black-on-white rapes has soared. In a 1974 study in Denver, 40 percent of all rapes were of whites by blacks, and not one case of white-on-black rape was found. In general, through the 1970s, black-on-white rape was at least ten times more common that white-on-black rape. [319]Because interracial rape is now overwhelmingly black on white, it has become difficult to do research on it or to find relevant statistics. The FBI keeps very detailed national records on crime, but the way it presents rape data obscures the racial element rather than clarifies it. Dr. William Wilbanks, a criminologist at Florida International University, had to sift carefully through the data to find that in 1988 there were 9,406 cases of black-on-white rape and fewer than ten cases of white-on-black rape. [320] Another researcher concludes that in 1989, blacks were three or four times more likely to commit rape than whites, and that black men raped white women thirty times as often as white men raped black women. [321]
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

Here is a short excerpt from the link.The excerpt is irrelevant to my post. I've discussed reasons for the disparity. To provide an excerpt that merely re-presents the disparity itself isn't to address my point.And the [321] citation is incorrect. That section of Hacker's book has to do with Black college enrollment and segregated education (183, 185). So I can only surmise that "Another researcher concludes that in 1989, blacks were three or four times more likely to commit rape than whites, and that black men raped white women thirty times as often as white men raped black women." is, at least, partly pulled out of their asses, or needs to be re-cited.But again, mostly irrelevant to the simple demographic reasons explaining the disparity between rape victims.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

Here is a short excerpt from the link. Why was black-on-white rape such a rarity in the 50's, but for some reason explodes in the 70's?Do you just look for arguments with an ideology you disagree with (liberalism) or do you earnestly believe in the conclusions you are pushing? If you are just trying to pick a fight that's fine, this website is a debate website and disagreement adds life. If you earnestly believe in what you're pushing then it seems you have an acute lack of common sense when checking data.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

Couldn't have explained it any better myself.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Me go to bank now

Then maybe your ancestors shouldn't have kidnapped them, brought them here, and pissed them off, failchild.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

It's been some time, colleague. Good to see you've still got bark and bite.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

Hey you want to know something? Blacks sold BLACKS to the British who sold them to Americans. Nice try though.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Me go to bank now

Blacks sold their own to arab nations, the british and others. You're right about that, but it holds little bearing on the current situation regarding African Americans. The issue is the purchase and eventual settling of black persons, not the routes they took to get here. Nice try though. Stay on point next time.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

Yes, it's all whitey's fault.http://www.wake-up-america.net/JEWS,%20JUDAISM%20AND%20SLAVERY.htm
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Me go to bank now

Stop crying. Not once in my statement did I blame white people. History is what it is. Wake-up-little-girl.net/JEW,%20LITTLEGIRLS%20AND%20STOPWHINING.htm
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

"Then maybe your ancestors shouldn't have kidnapped them, brought them here, and pissed them off, failchild."Was this not what you posted? I am saying WE did NOT kidnap them (Americans) we bought them from other countries. Nice try though.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Me go to bank now

Was this not what you postedYou know the answer to that question.bought them from other countriesThat kidnapped them like the British, larger African tribes, Arabs and I'm certain all sorts of 'Mericans were involved, from working on boats, to receiving shipments (where exactly do you relinquish involvement in the kidnapping smart one?) All you've done is attempt to dismantle my argument based on a technicality, a weak position indeed.Nice try tho.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

Well no. We didn't 'kidnap' them we bought them.And the British bought them from other Africans that actually 'kidnapped' them.I'm not trying to dismantle your argument, I am telling you you're wrong.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Me go to bank now

As mentioned before, your incorrect argument relates to only a portion of my initial sentence, much like a child demanding "no it isn't brown, it's more of a red". It speaks nothing to the problem (or lack thereof) of americans of african heritage. Wouldn't your mother be proud at your contribution to race relations in the u.s. "Well I don't know about the topic of the debate, but they weren't TECHNICALLY nabbed by white people so white people aren't guilty".To be involved in an affair is to take part in said affair. In this case, if Americans are involved in the transfer of captured slaves, they are captors. The fact that they weren't involved in the "bagging" doesn't exempt them, much like a gunman is still a bank robber even if his job is to subdue guards rather than fill bags with cash. You're still wrong and untill you bring more than just trolling to your arguments you're of no value to the resolution. Sorry for taking so long to respond, putting you in your place isn't a priority for me.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

Is that your answer to the more than 20,000 white women that are raped every year by black males? If so, it's not only ridiculous, but calloused as well.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

What about every other group, are we just going to kick out every race based on some perceived behaviors of an entire group? Where would we be without Martin Luther King, or Rosa Parks? To say that a country would be better without a whole entire race is just what Hitler was doing, except he just killed every race besides the one he deemed pure. I am still honestly surprised that even in this day and age there is so much racism going on. Should we kick out all of the Asian's to because it mean's our road's would be safer? How about all those Mexican's who take away all of the job's we don't even want to do. Or better yet why don't we just send all of the Mob affiliated Italian's back to Italy? Yeah, because getting rid of a race would make America a more loving and caring country.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

Mob affiliated Italian's back to ItalyFYI Italy was in rank with the Nazis'. So I wouldn't put those two in a paragraph as being 'different'.Furthermore, "Should we kick out all of the Asian's to because it mean's our road's would be safer?" Asians don't make safer drivers. Drivers are the causes of accidents not the car."Where would we be without Martin Luther King". We would have one less cocaine addicted and person that slept with their fans when he has his own family.*"How about all those Mexican's who take away all of the job's we don't even want to do." The Mexican's. Honestly? We don't want them here because they are using our healthcare we are paying for them to live. Besides if they are doing the work wouldn't that just a person the excuse of "Oh, someone else is doing it so I don't have too"
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

The topic of this debate is "Would America be a safer place without African Americans?"It doesn't say anything about kicking anyone out. It has absolutely nothing to do with Hitler, the Italian mafia or anything else you can pull out of your ass.You have not answered the question. Please do so.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Me go to bank now

Is that your argument to the 22,000,000 DEATH toll over the 386 years black people were enslaved? What fairytale world are you living in? "'MERICA! FUK YEAH!"
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

Great, another jackass burdened with white guilt. So...what should whites do to rectify the problem, sacrifice 22,000,000 of our fellow honkys to Al Sharpton? Would that do the trick and end the rampant crime on our streets? Would you bother explaining to me why I should be held accountable for the actions of some of my ancestors? I am a descendant of Charlemagne, should I be held accountable for war crimes too? You seem like a complete idiot.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Me go to bank now

Time to get some things straight little girl. - I'm not burdened by history because I'm not a soccer mom douche crying about fairness in the word (you are).- I didn't swear at you once yet, but you have to me (you are a child).- I won't stop arguing with you just because your arguments lack culture and substance (you are a fail child)-I'm not a honkey, but since you said "we", you agree that you are (you are a honkey fail child).On to your meager arguments:what should whites do to rectify the problemWhite people shouldn't do anything, slavery's over with. (Thought they shouldn't continue propping up slavery by discriminating against black people [since you asked "what should whites do" you're agreeing you're fine with this]).why I should be held accountableYou shouldn't be held accountable, I didn't accuse you of anything, stop whining.You seem like a complete idiot.I will dismantle you like I did your arguments little girl. You're clearly expecting crybaby fanatics since you're guard is up this high. You assumed I cared about slavery OR black people raping white women. Why would you post a debate knowing you'd get flamed?Because you're a fail child. Remember this little girl, I ripped up your best arguments (HAHAHAHAH) FAIL.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

Ama_Deviant:"Time to get some things straight little girl.- I'm not burdened by history because I'm not a soccer mom douche crying about fairness in the word (you are).- I didn't swear at you once yet, but you have to me (you are a child).- I won't stop arguing with you just because your arguments lack culture and substance (you are a fail child)-I'm not a honkey, but since you said "we", you agree that you are (you are a honkey fail child). ~~~Hypocritical much? LMAO! Take your meds and go to bed, sissy, before someone slaps that cigarette out of your mouth.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Me go to bank now

Swearintransitive verb2: to use profane or obscene languageProfane2: to debase by a wrong, unworthy, or vulgar useObsceneb : containing or being language regarded as taboo in polite usage http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/swear(profane[obscene]) That's what you got? Of the things we discussed, ONE fail argument is what you got? What should I expect of a little girl posting a debate with her trigger finger on the cry button, waiting to whine the second someone actually posts.You got taught little honkey, and just so it sticks, I'll give you one multiple choice question, review it.Match the word "Obscene" with the best answer:a)Little girlb)Douchec)Jackassd)Idiote)Both c and dI'll give you the answer too failure, it's "e".Holy hell you're a waste of time, learn from this.before someone slaps that cigarette out of your mouth.Congratulations now you're officially a troll. You have no business here, you are a failure. Care to be the one to slap it out of my mouth? I live in Victoria, Canada. Come visit.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

You're a snore, you're a bore. and I'm tempted to put you on ignore, whore.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Me go to bank now

Little girls LOVE to rhyme, and sing. Sing me something little girl.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

Please look at this chart that comes directly from the FBI. Since you're so big on rape, look at how many more whites rape than blacks. Also look at almost every crime and you will see that blacks have lower arrests and percentages than whites. If you still feel like arguing I will be right here!
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

You know if you don't understand statistics you really shouldn't cite it. Stick with spewing out politically correct BS like the other people. That being said if you look at the chart you cited you will see that it counts how many crimes are committed by blacks and how many by whites. IT then converts those 2 numbers into 2 percentages (out of 100) I am simplifying by leaving out the other races on that chart. Now to a simple mind that hasn't been exposed to statistics before that may seem like proof that a white man typically commits more crimes. I mean 70% of crimes are performed by whites and only 30% by blacks but when you factor in that blacks only make up 13% of the population to 80% of whites you realise that hey blacks commit much more crime per capita. I mean if 13% of your population commits 30% of the crime you know there is something wrong. Imagine if they have a higher percentage of the population (if you are curious you can calculate with simple math).So in short you just proved his point with those statistics. And i do feel like arguing. Please respond.oH woops didnt realise that enlightened said the same thing as me. Oh well I said it in more depth.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

Those arrest statistics might have been supportive of your view if blacks were 50% of the population, but NEWSFLASH, they aren't. Blacks are only about 13% of the population. Now go back and look at the statistics with that in mind... thank you for proving my point, LOL! I like debating here because my opponents often make my point for me.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

You score a touchdown for the wrong team and still get several up-votes from your supporters. Do you realize how retarded you guys look? This debate reminds me of the movie Idiocracy.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

Do you know the percentage of how many whites there are in America compared to blacks? I think blacks are 18% of America and Whites are over 50%. See where I'm going?
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

Did you already see the other posts??? I have already been told. See where I'm going???
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

Criminality in the Black population is a symptom of a preexisting and deeper rooted societal problem. And that problem won't disappear by discounting one of the symptoms. To borrow from Malcolm X's criticism of the larger society:  I knew I wouldn't be back to see my mother again because it could make me a very vicious and dangerous person-knowing how they had looked at us as numbers and as a case in their book, not as human beings. And knowing that my mother in there was a statistic that didn't have to be, that existed because of a society's failure, hypocrisy, greed, and lack of mercy and compassion. Hence I have no mercy or compassion in me for a society that will crush people, and then penalize them for not being able to stand up under the weight.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

Actually you are one of the few that actually brought an argument to the table instead of acting all morally superior and calling names. That being said, I would like to pose some questions and ask you to expand on your argument. 1. Do you have any clear evidence that there are societal problems in the U.S specifically targeting blacks and pushing them toward a life of violence. I mean there are many cases of Blacks succeeding in society. Obama is an example. So many people voted for him that he became president. This doesn't seem to be a racist soceity to me.2.I realize that the ancestors of the black were brought here by force and legally this is your country as much as ours but noone is forcing the blacks to stay here. If they feel the society here is unfair why not immigrate to africa where there cant be societal problems specifically targeting the blacks and holding them back since the whole population is black. There they can build their own civilization.3. Why has the black ethnic group never historically developed a civilized society. Why do they have a history of tribal wars and violence. Is it still becasue of the white man who oppresses them