azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

For all those catholic folks out there referencing the bible saying it condemns homosexuality, and essentially using it to justify your position in any way I have a little exert from the book of god for youAnd they that found him gathering sticks brought him unto Moses and Aaron, and unto all the congregation. And they put him in ward, because it was not declared what should be done to him. And the LORD said unto Moses, The man shall be surely put to death: all the congregation shall stone him with stones without the camp. And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the LORD commanded Moses.Numbers 15: 32-36Aren't those some great words of wisdom from the bible. I imagine not too many of you catholics have killed a man if he picked up sticks on Sunday, and this is your God, personally commanding Moses and all others to kill him. Now I have two points to make here: first, why would you listen to anything this god has to say, he is clearly an egotistical, evil douche bag. Second, why do you catholics ignore this verse of this book written (or inspired, whatever you believe) by god, while accepting others, such as those that support your case against homosexuality. I think it is because you do not really care about following the bible, you just want to have it as non-debatable backup whenever you need it. you don't kill people for picking up sticks, or even working (god forbid) on Sunday because it doesn't jive with your modern values. but you will use the bible to support your hatred of gays because it happens to agree with you on that position. If you are going to have an argument against someone's personal sexual preference, make it without this archaic, not to mention hypocritical, text. Make your argument on a secular and logical level and I think you will find it a whole lot harder to justify your irrational hatred of homosexuality
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

Is homosexuality wrong?noWhy is it wrong?It isn't. Two consenting adults should be allowed to do anything which doesn't interfere with another's rights. Homosexuality meets this criteria.What gives religions the right to take away the freedom from homosexuals?Nothing. Religion is power hungry and hateful in general, and in order to maintain power they need to constantly find another enemy, be it the infidel, homosexuals, witches... whatever.Why are people so ignorant to think it is a choice?Religion makes people dumb. No non-religious person would ever hold such a silly position. Only a "god" could dumb down humanity to such an extent.Why?Human nature, on both accounts. Homosexuality: every mammal has a percent of its populace who are gay, people are mammals. Religion: people are smart enough to know they are going to die, in most instances not smart enough to accept it. Therefore they create a psychological escape called religion. It's human nature to use any tool of man for both good and evil. In the case of religion, it has far more potential for evil historically.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

Religion makes people dumb.More accurately it preys upon their dumbness.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

well, lets not fall prey to a common logical fallacy. Correlation is not causation.We can, however, say that the correlation between proportion of atheists and average intelligence in a country is 60%- a rather strong correlation.http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289608000238
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: Their choice

Quite frankly,i am astounded by you homosexuals (or homosexual supporters) who claim to hate judging yet judge Religious people.....Those who judge AND those who don't... If i were to say a controversial statement such as "Whats the point of entering an exit?' You would have been hurt or angered..Yet you would makedisrespectful,hatred-provoking comments that was quite the opposite of the message you were spewing just arguments prior to your comment.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For sexual freedom

Quite frankly,i am astounded by you homosexuals I am not a homosexual.or homosexual supportersI do not support homosexuals. I support equal rights for all people.who claim to hate I hate very few things, and judgement is not one of them.yet judge Religious peopleReligious people either refuse to think about the nonsense that they believe or have taken leave of their senses. When a theist produces a rational argument as to why I am wrong and he is right, I will reconsider. Thus far, non have come even close to rational.Whats the point of entering an exit?The vagina is an exit.You would have been hurt or angeredAnger does not equate to pity.Yet you would make disrespectful,hatred-provoking commentsI do not respect the theistic because their beliefs are ludicrous. I am not in the habit of respecting lunacy. was quite the opposite of the message you were spewing just arguments prior to your comment.The difference between inflicting civil disability upon somebody because of their sexuality, and ridiculing somebody else for holding childish notions about magic, is that the former has serious consequences for the happiness of the victim, whereas the latter is a healthy contempt for the mad.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: Against Homosexuality

I've not seen a law disallowing the religious to marry.If perhaps there were one I'd briefly consider being for it in order to ensure a greater intelligence for future generations, I however am a slave to fair observation. I cannot deny even an idiot their right to make more of themselves.But no, it's a false equivalency. Saying you are dumb is not the same as taking away one of your basic rights.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

Religion makes people dumb. No non-religious person would ever hold such a silly position. Only a "god" could dumb down humanity to such an extent.There is a natural prejudice in people to hate that which is different, for purely emotional reasons. Later, rationalisations are used.Religion isn't required for this, it merely facilitates the process.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: Against misrepresenting God

Entirely true for example without a religious justification the Crusades would still have happened. Pope Urban the second exploited religion as the easiest tool to gain personal power because now doesn't the pope control his own army? Other reasons for the crusades includes a desire to redirect violent knights away from Europeans and the desire for wealth seeing as the Islamic empire was wealthy and Europe was dirt poor.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

Entirely true for example without a religious justification the Crusades would still have happened. Pope Urban the second exploited religion as the easiest tool to gain personal power because now doesn't the pope control his own army? Other reasons for the crusades includes a desire to redirect violent knights away from Europeans and the desire for wealth seeing as the Islamic empire was wealthy and Europe was dirt poor.The reservations I have with this is the capacity to mobilise soldiers. I have to wonder if large-scale wars would be as likely without a uniting ideology which the religion served as.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

Can't get to the dance without a ride...In other words, religion lends itself as a tool. They get to the hate dance through this. A dumb person who does not think much could only hate gay people if someone told them a god said so.The majority of hate is perpetrated by the dumb.Religion is their only ride.The religious would not hate gays if religion did not say so.Nothing at all to do with who's different. Anthropology. Children of various skin tone left in a room interacted as if there were no difference. Grown humans acted as if there were a difference until 20 years or so ago and in some cases even today."Different" does not = natural differences in interaction. It equals learned.Same with homosexuality.There is no evolutionary, genetic, or logical reason for a group hoping to procreate (instincually) to have any problem with homosexuals.It is learned.Religion is the only teacher.Surprise. History repeats itself and once again religion is the villain.At least this was a suedo logical reply, but that's the most dangerous. I really need to get to this site more often I guess.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

You can always walk.You know, just extending the metaphor.Without religion, people would still have the natural inclination to hate. People have used various methods of hate- as a species we seem to be rather good at hating. Whether on the grounds of militant religion, Social Darwinism, or jingoism, people have a knack for taking what has the potential to be peaceful- religion, science, national pride- and using it however they see fit.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

You can always walk.You know, just extending the metaphor.Without religion, people would still have the natural inclination to hate. People have used various methods of hate- as a species we seem to be rather good at hating. Whether on the grounds of militant religion, Social Darwinism, or jingoism, people have a knack for taking what has the potential to be peaceful- religion, science, national pride- and using it however they see fit.Also: I would argue that the inclination to hate homosexual people is not learned directly, but rather indirectly. People learn that it is normal for a man and a woman to have sexual relations, and then homosexuals simply fit in the 'other' category which is hated as a method of self preservation. If my hypothesis is true, all that would be necessary is to accept homosexuality as a normal- rather than unusual- practice.And if nothing else, religion is a product of the human condition. Unless you believe that religion was divinely inspired, a group of people determined what was wrong or right, leading people (not religion) to the root of the problem anyways.also- your argument seems to be pro-homosexuality... you might want to change the tagwhile you are at it, the correct spelling "pseudo", not "suedo".
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

Whatever with the pseudo. I only come to this site drunk now and don't use spell check.And I'm also not sure when my tags got turned around, but I changed it back and I'm all for homosexuality. 1. I don't care. 2. Less competition... unless it's two chicks in which case it's hot so I still don't care. Anyway:Without religion, people would still have the natural inclination to hate. People have used various methods of hate- as a species we seem to be rather good at hating. Whether on the grounds of militant religion, Social Darwinism, or jingoism, people have a knack for taking what has the potential to be peaceful- religion, science, national pride- and using it however they see fit.It's one less tool though. I'm not talking about the crazies like the god hates fags people. I'm talking about the other Christians who don't deride, for example god hates fags Christians, because and for the sole reason that they too are Christian. Crazy will always be crazy and there will always be horrible people, but it will not be excused by the silent majority sharing that specific superstition.Also: I would argue that the inclination to hate homosexual people is not learned directly, but rather indirectly. People learn that it is normal for a man and a woman to have sexual relations, and then homosexuals simply fit in the 'other' category which is hated as a method of self preservation. If my hypothesis is true, all that would be necessary is to accept homosexuality as a normal- rather than unusual- practice.You may be correct. I'd like to read a study on that. It can be said though that it is not natural for everyone as sort of a mode of self-preservation to dislike gay people, as its difficult to find a non-religious (not necessarily even atheist, but someone not that into religion one way or another) with the odd disdain for what others do in private. Perhaps though there is some other correlation besides religion itself.And if nothing else, religion is a product of the human condition. Unless you believe that religion was divinely inspired, a group of people determined what was wrong or right, leading people (not religion) to the root of the problem anyways.Everything humans do is a product of the human condition, it's impossible for it to be any other way. We're human. That religion is a product of that does not make it a good thing.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

I feel we have had a misunderstanding. I do not feel that religion is a good thing.I find it to be equally moral as a hammer. Depending on the method with which it is used, it can aid in construction, destruction, or a variety of other purposes. However, if you take away a hammer, it is no guarantee that people will not continue to act with a saw, screwdriver, crowbar, or protractor (totally counts as a tool).Also: evidence suggesting correlation between latent homosexuality and homophobia. Essentially, because homosexuality is frowned upon (Darwinian circumstance possible to increase reproduction within a group) , resulting in Freudian repression and ultimately irrational anger directed at the desire in question.http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/ shows/assault/roots/freud.html
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: the religious are mostly in the closet

I love PBS, I swear no for-profit news organization would do this type of a study without bias on one side or another.You are I think more correct than myself. I'm not a fan of Freud though, and it seems if the goal is reproduction one would not have a problem with less competition. It would be a twist of empathy ironically I think that would cause the dislike. As in, a moment of identification with a gay person which would lead to an immediate mental block and rejection.My guess from that may be that it's not a religious thing but a "I might be gay and don't like it" thing. My anthropology minor didn't talk much about homosexuality specifically, but sexuality the theory is isn't black and white, gay or straight, down the line, it's shaped like an upside down bell curve. Now that my mind's on the subject I did see a thing on science channel where they conducted a great study.They went to a University and asked male's opinion of homosexuality. Instead of asking what they like and don't like they placed pressure devices on the penis... I'm not making this up I swear, wish I could find the study online. Anyway, they hooked up their penises, then showed them flash videos of different images with gay erotic pictures randomly dispersed between. The study found the more against homosexuality an individual was the more likely it was their "shaft" would slightly thicken when a gay image was shown... you know, it makes perfect sense.I'd like to take this opportunity to apologize to religion in this instance.It does beg the question though,what about religion attracts closet homosexuals :p
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

it shouldn't matter what you are, the higher power does not judge you when you are gone. he loves all his children.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

Simply none of my, or anyone's business to tell another person who they should love.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: Against Homosexuality

Oh really?! If i dont think its right for my child to see two men/women making out in a subway train im gonna do what i can to convince them of their...Hold a sec.None of my business?It was our business when a startling number of homosexuals gave blood transfusions giving innocent people AIDS. It was our business when that fat guy anally penetrated a three year old boy.- But hey thats how he loves!!! He likes three year olds then we're out of place to put him in jail. http://www.cfsh.net/3.html http://christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-f019.html  Read the links b4 you reply.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

We are all people and we are all differentIf there are so many sins in the world homosexuality shouldn't matterNo two people in this world are the same, even twins, one twin can be gay and the other straightAnd if we do not choose to be gay then why should we be killed for it? Is that not immoral? To kill someone for being different?Don't even try to link homosexuality with pedophilia because it has nothing to do with it. Or say that we can be gay but not act on it, wheres the fun in life if you restrict everything you do
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: Against misrepresenting God

You don't need sex to have fun, people in the bible were celibate from any sort of sexual relationship, those who were able to do so without causing them to sin were encouraged to be celibate, those who did not think they could were encouraged to marry, for Homosexuals anything but celibacy at least from a physical relationship with a man is wrong.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: Against Homosexuality

Fine, let's see you never have sex with someone you love because of a book of unknown origin.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

Well, think about it, shouldnt you be able to just love you you love? what if being straight was wrong, you people wouldn't like that, now would you?I found this blog of a lesbo chick teenheartache.blogspot.com it shows a girls feelings, go watch glee and see the males. have a heart.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

i dont hate teh geys but if thats what they want to do with their life THEN LET THEM DO IT!
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

I'd just like to say that I could NEVER bring myself to worship a god who would damn me for something as little as who I love.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: Against Homosexuality

as little? So If I love violence God would not be worried about me? If I loved being addicted to video games God would not be worried about me? I think not. I think you better get more of an understanding of who God is before you judge him. This is not a little thing. God wants the best for all of us. He created each and everyone of us. Love is found in Jesus christ.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

I'm afraid you've misunderstood. I said WHO, not what. And, believe it or not, you do love violence. Because humans love violence. Ever see Shutter Island? If not, you oughta check it out. Some good viewpoints on violence in there. I don't claim to understand God, nor do I attempt to pass judgement. But don't you see? It is a small thing! If a woman discovers a cure for Diabetes, but is in love with another woman, what's more important? Or compare two men in a relationship to Hitler murdering Jews. It seems inconsequential, doesn't it? In the scheme of things, homosexual or heterosexual makes very, very little difference.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

All this talk about homosexuality being 'unnatural' - So, you picked that computer off a tree did you?
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

The opposition's unnatural argument doesn't hold any water, and here is why. The first refutation is that homosexuality occurs in nature, and is therefore natural but the second refutation is much more substantive. How can something be unnatural if nature encompasses everything? everything that exists is nature and therefore natural, but even if there is natural and unnatural and homosexuality is unnatural why is that necessarily immoral or wrong? jumping out of a plane and pulling a cord and parachuting to the ground is unnatural by the opposition's definition but it is not considered immoral. Maybe people will say we cannot understand god because god is outside of nature and therefore unnatural but the hypocrisy shows through here because god is not seen as immoral or wrong. So this unnatural argument doesn't work because it fails on so many levels, it isnt an explanation, it is just a visceral justification of your irrational hatred and fear of gays. I'm not gay, I don't care if you are or are not gay, let people live their lives they way they want to and stop imposing your own homophobia on others.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

Why would it be wrong? The only people who are claiming this statement are the religious, and it is oh so ironic that the most fraudulent concept of all (religion) is taking a stance on what us right, and what is wrongFirst of all, why is being attracted to the same sex any different at all from being attracted to certain features of a person (race, personality, age, looks, weight, height). It is not.If you were to argue that homosexuality is wrong because it does not allow for reproduction, then logically, every person who either makes the choice not to have children or cannot have children are in the same moral boat as homosexuals, and should be persecuted just as homosexuals are, which is clearly a ridiculous position to take.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

Who has the right to put restrictions on love? Who has the right to make something so beautiful into something that discriminates? Who has the right to tell others who they can and can't have a relationship with? Religion certainly doesn't. If love isn't racially discriminant, and if couples can differ in age, why should love and attraction between two people of the same gender be restricted by boundaries set by religion? It is the same with marriage. Many people believe that marriage is a commitment before God, but what what if you don't believe in God? Who is the couple making a commitment towards?
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: For Homosexuality

Is homosexuality wrong?No. If it's wrong, then so is Heterosexuality.Why is it wrong?It isn't.What gives religions the right to take away the freedom from homosexuals?Because our government was pretty much based on Christianity and it's followings and the bible teaches people that homosexuality is wrong when it's really not.Why are people so ignorant to think it is a choice?Because once again, the bible says it's wrong so people think it's a choice instead of it being a development in someones body. It has been biologically proven that when someone is young, homosexuality starts to develop in their brain and they have no influence on stopping or starting it.Why?Human Nature lol. You can't stop it from happening. The reason I know this is because I am one. I had no choice. I didn't want it to be this way and even contemplated about kill myself because of what everyone would think. But I never did obviously.
Debate: Homosexuality
Side: Against Homosexuality

Is homosexuality wrong?No. If it's wrong, then so is Heterosexuality. Why would heterosexuality be wrong? You're comparing apples to oranges.Why is it wrong?It isn't. I disagree - What gives religions the right to take away the freedom from homosexuals?Because our government was pretty much based on Christianity and it's followings and the bible teaches people that homosexuality is wrong when it's really not.Ok, well ... If you're saying Christianity then you mean the New Testament of the Bible. Where does is condemn homosexuality in the New Testament? People use the Bible for all sorts of negative reasons and it turns out that they know very little about it. If you are Jewish on the other hand, and subscribe more to the teachings of Moses, you might have a point. You're naive here ... Why are people so ignorant to think it is a choice?Because once again, the bible says it's wrong so people think it's a choice instead of it being a development in someones body. It has been biologically proven that when someone is young, homosexuality starts to develop in their brain and they have no influence on stopping or starting it.By what agency or medical institution is homosexuality biologically proven to develop when someone it young? Why?Human Nature lol. You can't stop it from happening. False, I did. One person to disprove a hypothesis makes the theory incorrect. The reason I know this is because I am one. I had no choice. You always have a choice.I didn't want it to be this way and even contemplated about kill myself because of what everyone would think. But I never did obviously.I'm glad you didn't kill yourself :)