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Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

I am uncomfortable trying to choose between these two men who, where both great in their own ways. If you look around you today you will see Hamilton’s ideas for economy and strong central government, then if you look somewhere else you see Jefferson’s ideas on a Democratic government. They both balanced each other out in a way. If Hamilton wanted an industrialized America then Jefferson wanted a rural America. I’m not stating that they chose to be just opposites of each other but, I find it hard to compare to extremes of every problem.Now the question is “Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?” Which can basically be loosely rephrased to “Do you want to be an extremist on this side or the other side?” In both their ideas and views you find great ideas and suggestions to how America should be, but I’ve found somewhere in the middle is where America needs to be. For example Hamilton wanted a VERY strong federal government while Jefferson wanted a loose one that only really mattered or even did anything in times of trouble and the state governments would run themselves in times of peace. But based on history from that time Hamilton’s strong government federal government is the reason we broke away from England. While Jefferson’s views on a VERY strong state government was obviously proved a terrible idea in the Articles of Confederation.The one reoccurring thought I’m having while writing this is a thing that a coach always says to me, which is “talk is nothing, you can say you’re better or stronger than anyone but it means nothing, what really means something is action, action is what really matters.” I think this can directly apply to this debate of who left the more enduring vision because while Jefferson had great ideas of America, it was Hamilton who would put his own ideas into action, not Jefferson. Jefferson would talk down about slavery and still owned slaves, he literally wrote all men where created equal onto one of America’s most famous documents yet he still thought another race was below him. That’s why in the end I choose Alexander Hamilton, not because he was smarter or had better ideas than Jefferson. It is because Hamilton would directly put his ideas into action because, he would personally see all his ideas through because he wanted a more prosperous America.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

If you think about the world we live in today as Americans, you will notice that it is heavily dependent on the economy. Alexander Hamilton envisioned this type of economy over 200 years ago. He persuaded people to ratify the Constitution, and with the new type of government, he wanted to create a new style of economy. When the ratification of the Constitution was in progress, a few Federalists wrote the Federalist Papers. One of these men was Hamilton. These papers were a series of essays that were some of the most persuasive documents ever written. They influenced many Anti-Federalists to change their mind and ratify the Constitution. After the Constitution was signed, Thomas Jefferson and Hamilton had different views about what type of economy our nation should have. Jefferson wanted it to be based on agriculture, and he wanted to have no debt as a country. Hamilton, on the other hand, almost wanted the opposite of that. He wanted a lot of factories to be built, but he did not want to eliminate agriculture because he understood that both were important. Hamilton also wanted to have some debt. This debt could be used to build credit with other countries. He could owe a little bit of money, and then pay it back so that he could get more money next time. Now, think about our modern economy and compare it to the economy that Hamilton envisioned. They are almost identical. Hamilton understood what our country needed to be successful, and he took action on it. It is obvious that Hamilton influenced the way our country grew.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

I am going to have to pick Alexander Hamilton. I just liked is enduring vision of the United States more.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

This is a tough fission though both sides have a love to see America grow and prospure unfortunately there can only be one winner for Americas heart! I believe that Hamilton had great business ethics and knows how to handle the situations dealing with money and economics. Jefferson however thought more with the heart then brain granted he was a smart man as well. I chose Hamilton not only for his business sense but he knew how to give a strong economy to America . Hamilton growing up he was a poor boy until his father wanted to be in his life sending him to the best schools, but one thing that I like that Jefferson had was never forgetting where he came from Hamilton turned his back on the poor but Jefferson never forgot what his parents taught him about being kind, noble, and selfless it was tees thoughts he had as he wrote "all men are created equal" which I found a little ironic after heating that Jefferson was a slave owner owning 600+ slaves and only freed 2 men personally gave freedom to 5 men in his will and allowed to unofficially free 3 slaves by let them run away without Pursuit . More than 600+ slaves and only freeing 10, 3 which ran away! Hamilton was active in opposing slavery when he was growing up his mother past away and left him and his brother two slaves they turned them down, this is jut one of the many Actions of refusing slavery that would soon come. Hamilton was a federalist which means he believed that trading and manufacturing is what would bring us progress in this would while Jefferson who was a republican believed in agriculture interest and values as a way to progress in this world he opposed of the national bank.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

There is two great people that have contributed to our country greatly. They created things in place that if we didn't have our country would fall apart. Don't get me wrong I like Jefferson but Hamilton in the long run gave us the best.  Hamilton hated poor people and the French. He wanted our government to be formed like the British.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

I believe Alexander Hamilton has a stronger hold of america and is a better choice for us. He has a strong economic view and favored a unified country. We live in Alexanders country now, he created America to what it is today.Alexander Hamilton helped abolish slavery in America. Thomas Jefferson happened to own several slaves and treated them badly. Hamilton helped found the military while Jefferson was against the military but the military is our highest level of protection and we need that. I believe Thomas was against the idea of a strong healthy government and most of Hamiltons ideas. Hamilton opposed the federal government but fought for it and soon became there president.Hamilton wanted america to be equal in farming and manufacturing. Jefferson wanted us to be a rural country but we wouldn't be were we are today if we went on his path because we would have gotten no were. Hamilton brought protection to america and we wouldn't have gotten that with TJ because he didn't believe in military protection so we would have all died. Alexander Hamilton also brought our first national bank as Thomas wanted nothing to do with them and thought they were a bad idea for america. Hamilton brought wealth and nations to america and helped draft the constitution as did Thomas but he didnt live by his own words and thought other wise towards america. Thomas did bring a lot to the table when it comes to america yes but Hamilton treated and represents us better. Hamilton brought finance to us and is allowing us to be independent and a free country but with set limits that we absolutely need.Hamilton represents america more opened minded to the constitution and the bill of rights and other important documents and thats why i chose Hamilton because we already live in his country and he is more of our founding father.
Debate: Who has the more traditional English accent?
Side: USA

It wasn't until the 19th century that non-rhotic speech became popular in England.
Debate: Who has the more traditional English accent?
Side: USA

Thank you for that article, it also shed some light on where the cockney accent or the British slums accent came from. Not to mention I didn't know anything in that factoid before reading it.
Debate: Who has the more traditional English accent?
Side: USA

Pretty interesting, wasn't it? It kind of puts the whole "we speak proper English" argument coming from the Brits to rest.
Debate: Who has the more traditional English accent?
Side: USA

It was! And next time I get into a civil dispute with a British person online, and he starts spouting his elitist English bull crap, I'll have the perfect retort for him.
Debate: Who has the more traditional English accent?
Side: Britain

We're still better than you at some many levels :P
Debate: Who has the more traditional English accent?
Side: USA

Oh, please share! You guys are just too egotistical to see your own faults.
Debate: Who has the more traditional English accent?
Side: Britain

Bitch please, an American calling another nationality arrogant is like Britney Spears calling some one else stupid. You are the ones who seem to think you are "the police of the World".Ways in which we are superior:Culture: We have originality, your culture is just a rip off of many different other countries'.History: Britain has a long and vibrant history where as the USA has only existed for a little over 200 years.Food: Tea and Crumpets beats a quarter pounder and strawberry milkshake any day.And many more...
Debate: Who has the more traditional English accent?
Side: USA

Bitch please, an American calling another nationality arrogant is like Britney Spears calling some one else stupid. You are the ones who seem to think you are "the police of the World".Well, in all fairness... Britney Spears IS smarter than at least one person.We don't think we're the "police of the world" anymore than you guys do. Every time we're getting involved in some sort of global issue like that, you guys are right beside us.Culture: We have originality, your culture is just a rip off of many different other countries'.Is a country full of diversity a bad thing? We don't rip off cultures... They come to us.History: Britain has a long and vibrant history where as the USA has only existed for a little over 200 years.European history is definitely superior, but like you said... We're young.... And look what this country has accomplished in that short amount of time!Food: Tea and Crumpets beats a quarter pounder and strawberry milkshake any day.Don't even get me started on your guys food! What a bunch of shit and I know Brits who would agree with me. You may not like a burger and a shake, but the majority of the world does... Actually, they love it! That's why it's one of the world's biggest industries.Also, our diverse culture has given us a ton of different foods. We have Mexican, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Australian, Jamaican, Cuban, Irish, Italian, French, Greek, German... But I haven't seen any English food, because most people agree that it's shitty.If you were to ever come here, you would see that the United States is a mixing pot of different cultures. That's why, despite what you may think, we are more worldly than you guys.And many more...Please continue!
Debate: Who has the more traditional English accent?
Side: Britain

"We don't think we're the "police of the world" anymore than you guys do. Every time we're getting involved in some sort of global issue like that, you guys are right beside us."That is because we have had weak and pathetic leaders like Tony Blair who are happy to merely be a pawn in your game. But that is going to if UKIP win in the next election that should change, and I hope they do."Is a country full of diversity a bad thing? We don't rip off cultures... They come to us."No but you still have no culture of your own. Which is why I don't really see you as a proper country just a united group of independent colonies."European history is definitely superior, but like you said... We're young.... And look what this country has accomplished in that short amount of time!"You have achieved a lot for your time I will give you that. But all of your achievements are based on the bones of native Indians you selfishly slaughtered."Don't even get me started on your guys food! What a bunch of shit and I know Brits who would agree with me. You may not like a burger and a shake, but the majority of the world does... Actually, they love it! That's why it's one of the world's biggest industries.Also, our diverse culture has given us a ton of different foods. We have Mexican, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Australian, Jamaican, Cuban, Irish, Italian, French, German... But I haven't seen any English food, because most people agree that it's shitty. " Please could you elaborate on what food you are thinking of and why it is shitty? and fast food is extremely unhealthy, some people here actually care about our bodies, it is low quality also but it is addictive because of the high fat content, that is why so many people eat it not because of the quality."If you were to ever come here, you would see that the United States is a mixing pot of different cultures. That's why, despite what you may think, we are more worldly than you guys." I have been to the US twice before and the climate was nice and I will admit the people were nice but it lacked in culture hideously. You can not claim Japanese or Italian food as part of your own culture as it is their's not yours.Please continue!There aren't enough hours in the day to say all the reasons why Britain is better. But I will provide a few others:TV:You guys copy all sorts of TV programmes from us e.g. Top Gear, X Factor (they are all crap imo but you still had to copy them from us).Literature:: Some of greatest writers in the history of humanity have been from Britain: Shakespeare, Dickens, Jane Austen, The Bronte sisters, the list goes on and on.Guns: We are civilized unlike you so we do not carry guns.National Health Service:We are not barbaric enough to expect people to pay for their own health service.Education system:Our education system is a lot less complicated than yours.
Debate: Who has the more traditional English accent?
Side: Britain

"Culture- "arts collectively: art, music, literature, and related intellectual activities, considered collectively"I listed music, a lot of which you said you enjoy. I named a ton of famous authors, and those were mostly classic authors. You know that hamburgers and hot dogs are the famous American foods. We also celebrate holidays that you guys don't: 4th of July, Thanksgiving, etc. We've added significantly to science and technology... So what is wrong with our culture?"I listen to only a little of your Music, the only American artists who I listen to a lot are Christina Aguilera and Lady Gaga. A lot of your music is crappy hip hop stuff. Hamburgers and Hotdogs are terrible. "Of course we all have a culture we prefer more than the others... But it's still good to be exposed to different cultures. You're a white Brit (I assume), but you prefer Asian culture, right?" What made you think I prefer Asian culture? I prefer Asian spirituality and that is it. Generally I dislike Asia, a land full of Communists, Yellow Shirts and extremist Muslims and their food is so boring like Rice and Noodles."Their beer is fantastic! Their food is also good... Apparently much better than England's.I know someone that went over to England and ordered a fish meal. They were served a bowl of minnows." That was only one experience, just because their was one crap restaurant does not mean that every British restaurant is crap."U.S. "Percent of adults age 20 years and over who are obese: 35.9%""About 46% of men in England and 32% of women are overweight"You guys are pretty fat too. You're men are almost at 50%."You're comparing apples to pears darling. Being overweight and being obese are two different things, being obese is more severe than being overweight so it is not fair to compare the percentage of one to the other."It's actually really simple. Junior High is middle school, grades 6-8."But that's the thing I have no idea how old you are in what grade as we don't have grades here.
Debate: Who has the more traditional English accent?
Side: USA

I listen to only a little of your Music, the only American artists who I listen to a lot are Christina Aguilera and Lady Gaga.That's fine. My favorite artist is Australian (American born though). You do listen to our artists though, so how can you say we don't have any culture?A lot of your music is crappy hip hop stuff.Oh, don't get me started on that. I hate hip hop... But if you actually do some searching, you'd see that we have plenty of talent in other genres.Hamburgers and Hotdogs are terrible.That's crazy talk! You just want to whine ;)What made you think I prefer Asian culture?Uhhh... You're Buddhist. You have Homer as Buddha (American and Asian... hmmm?) for your user pic.I prefer Asian spirituality and that is it.Religion is an important part of culture.Generally I dislike Asia, a land full of Communists, Yellow Shirts and extremist Muslims and their food is so boring like Rice and Noodles.You don't like Chinese food? Good grief, you must be a picky eater. That was only one experience, just because their was one crap restaurant does not mean that every British restaurant is crap.That was just one example. I know a Brit who moved here and said that the two things she really dislikes about Britain is the food and the weather.You're comparing apples to pears darling.Please don't call me "darling". I'd rather not be referred to in that way by a fourteen year old dude, no offense. Being overweight and being obese are two different thingsI wasn't showing obesity numbers, was I? Oh shit! I was... How'd I fuck that up? Okay, fine... Our numbers are higher.But that's the thing I have no idea how old you are in what grade as we don't have grades here.Oh... That sounds like your system is more confusing lol.Grades 6-8 is ages 12-14. Grades 9-12 is ages 14-18.
Debate: Who has the more traditional English accent?
Side: Britain

"You do listen to our artists though, so how can you say we don't have any culture?"Well both of them actually are foreign. Xtina is Ecuadorian and Gaga is Italian.""That's crazy talk! You just want to whine ;)"Yup, it is completely ridiculous that I don't like your junk food. Because isn't their nothing more sophisticated than a lump of hormone injected, processed tasting meat in a piece of bread is their?"Uhhh... You're Buddhist. You have Homer as Buddha (American and Asian... hmmm?) for your user pic." So? I practice Tibetan Buddhism but apart from that my culture is not Tibetan or even Asian in any way. I am British and my Dharma practice will never get in the way of that."Religion is an important part of culture." Buddhism is not a religion anyway."That was just one example. I know a Brit who moved here and said that the two things she really dislikes about Britain is the food and the weather." Well she is a traitor and is letting us down by first of all moving to another country and second of all slagging us off behind our backs. "You don't like Chinese food? Good grief, you must be a picky eater." I like some of it but noodles are the most boring thing in the universe. Seriously they don't taste of anything. Why do people eat them when there is so much better food out there."Please don't call me "darling". I'd rather not be referred to in that way by a fourteen year old dude, no offense." It was pretty obvious I was saying it in a sarcastic way. Doesn't sarcasm exist on your side of the Atlantic? "Oh... That sounds like your system is more confusing lol."We have Years instead of Grades. For example we have Year 8 not "the 8th grade".
Debate: Who has the more traditional English accent?
Side: Britain

Oh an also I forgot to add thisMusic: I woud take Lily Allen, Jessie J, The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, Tom Jones and Adele over Taylor Swift, Madonna, Miley Cyrus, Britney, Katy Perry, Eminem and Lil' Wayne any day.
Debate: Who has the more traditional English accent?
Side: USA

You've kinda been hoitst by your own own petard there me old mucker, whilst all the acts you mention are typically British they are all heavily influenced by American music. The Stones started by covering American Blues songs and the Beatles started by covering American Rock N Roll and slowly integrated their own songs and created their own sound. Using musicians that would not exist if it were not for American culture to argue that British culture is better makes your argument somewhat redundant
Debate: Who has the more traditional English accent?
Side: USA

How many artists are there in the world? Are those the only ones? Your personal opinion doesn't make your country any better than mine.How about Nirvana, Foo Fighters, Metallica, Van Halen, Red Hot Chilli Peppers, Elvis, The White Stripes, Ray LaMontagne, Soundgarden, Rage Against The Machine, Creedence Clearwater Revival, Michael Jackson, Kings of Leon, The Black Keys, John Mayer, The Dave Matthews Band, The Ramones, Lenny Kravitz, Lynyrd Skynyrd, The Steve Miller Band, Tom Petty, The Eagles, Jimmy Buffet, Heart, AC/DC, Guns & Roses, The Offspring, Green Day, Billy Joel, Bruce Springsteen, Bob Dylan, Roy Orbison, Cher, Tina Turner, 3 Doors Down, Dispatch, BOSTON, Molly Hatchet, The Civil Wars, ZZ Top... and many, many more!Hell, a lot of that was just the popular artists! There are many fantastic American bands/artists out there who don't get the recognition they deserve.
Debate: Who has the more traditional English accent?
Side: Britain

Freddie Mercury was British you silly Bitch ;P. Cher is Good, Nirvana were good, Tina was good, Foo Fighters are good, RHCP are good, obviously Elvis and MJ was good but none of those other ones you mentioned struck out to me as being particularly good.
Debate: Who has the more traditional English accent?
Side: USA

Oh shit! I actually thought he was British and then I was like, what the hell... I'll add him anyways. I went ahead and deleted him from the list.I listed only a few. I could keep going if you want?People have different opinions. I didn't really like any of the artists you mentioned... Though, I will admit that they are talented.
Debate: Who has the more traditional English accent?
Side: Britain

AC/DC are an Australian band with a British singer and the the original lineup of Guns and Roses was a mixture (Slash has dual nationality British/American born in Stoke), sorry to be pedantic but you guys can't take all the credit!! ;)
Debate: Who has the more traditional English accent?
Side: USA

Australian? Damn! I guess that's what I get for looking up "popular American bands" lol. I didn't expect that though. My favorite band is actually Australian, so that's cool.Guns N Roses is classified as an American rock band, since the majority of the members are from America. They wouldn't say "an American band with a guitarist who is half American and half British".
Debate: Who has the more traditional English accent?
Side: USA

I argue that if that were true, the almost famous act of bringing up how the British were first wouldn't be as common. All people are the same in a way, and we all have our own areas of greatness, thus no race or ethnicity is assuredly better than any other.
Debate: Who has the more traditional English accent?
Side: Britain

And next time I get into a civil dispute with a British person onlineImpossible, a Brit is involved. ;)