azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Is abortion morally justified?
Side: it is not

A syllogism cannot be true either true or false. It is either valid or invalid, sound or unsound. If the premises are true and the form is valid, then the conclusion must be true.For an argument to be valid, all that is required is that its conclusion follows from it's premises. The conclusion that abortion is wrong follows from its premises, so my argument is valid.It is also sound, as it's premises are true. You claim:"A) The universe contains no such thing as right and wrong."But this is a controversial claim that most people do not accept. I challenge you to prove this claim. This is a question of whether abortion is morally justified. If you do not believe there is a right and wrong, you are not qualified to answer this question."B) Abortion terminates a loose collection of cells which cannot be human since it cannot survive independently of a host, feel pain, or breathe."Yet you provide no evidence for this. It is an arbitrary claim that is contrary to the findings of science. And your criteria for humanity are biologically irrelevant to whether an entity is human or not.Let me quote "Essentials of Human Embryology," an embryology textbook by Keith L. Moore: "Human development begins after the union of male and female gametes or germ cells during a process known as fertilization (conception)."Fertilization is a sequence of events that begins with the contact of a sperm (spermatozoon) with a secondary oocyte (ovum) and ends with the fusion of their pronuclei (the haploid nuclei of the sperm and ovum) and the mingling of their chromosomes to form a new cell. This fertilized ovum, known as a zygote, is a large diploid cell that is the beginning, or primordium, of a human being." Science overwhelmingly affirms the humanity of the unborn, from the very beginning of their existence at conception.An embryo is not “a clump of cells,” but rather a distinct, whole, and self-developing human organism, with each of its parts functioning for the good of the whole. As embryologists Ronan O'Rahilly and Fabiola Müller state, “Although life is a continuous process, fertilization is a critical landmark because, under ordinary circumstances, a new, genetically distinct human organism is thereby formed...The embryo now exists as a genetic UNITY.” (Human Embryology & Teratology.) " Embryos are “living creatures with all the properties that define any organism as distinct from a group of cells; embryos are capable of growing, maturing, maintaining a physiologic balance between various organ systems, adapting to changing circumstances, and repairing injury. Mere groups of human cells do nothing like this under any circumstances.” (Maureen Condic, “Life: Defining the Beginning by the End.”)You conclude,"C) Therefore, you're making an appeal to emotion and trying to disguise it as something which is logical."This claim is both arbitrary and demonstrably false. As I mentioned already, my argument is absolutely valid, and therefore it is absolutely logical. Never did I make an emotional appeal. Your claims are unjustified and unjustifiable.
Debate: Is abortion morally justified?
Side: it is

A syllogism cannot be true either true or false.And in your case it was false. Your sentences were thick with loaded language giving definitive, objective conclusions to extremely debatable topics. It is not a matter of fact that a fetus is human. That is a debatable topic. It is not a matter of fact that terminating a fetus is the same thing as killing a human. That is a debatable topic. It is not a matter of fact that killing things is wrong. That is a debatable topic.And if one needs any more persuasion that you are an idiot, you wrote back 10,000 words instead of the three which would have sufficed: I was mistaken.
Debate: Is abortion morally justified?
Side: it is not

Once again you are being arbitrary.You say: "And in your case it [the syllogism] was false."To refute me, you must show that my premises aren't true, or that my conclusion doesn't follow. You have not proven either."Your sentences were thick with loaded language giving definitive, objective conclusions to extremely debatable topics."But this is precisely what this forum is for. If we cannot debate debatable topics, then why are you debating them? The debatableness of abortion is irrelevant to the validity of my argument." It is not a matter of fact that a fetus is human. That is a debatable topic."And yet nearly all biologists disagree with you. Basically, all the available evidence supports the humanity of the unborn. It is irrational to believe that which is contrary to the evidence. It is contrary to the evidence to say that the fetus is not a human. So it is irrational to believe that the fetus is not a human."It is not a matter of fact that terminating a fetus is the same thing as killing a human. That is a debatable topic."This is yet again a mere claim of yours. You do not attempt to prove your point, you merely assert it. If you wish to argue that abortion is morally justified, you must provide justification. Since you have not done so, your case fails."It is not a matter of fact that killing things is wrong."And that is precisely what we are debating. Yet I did not say that all killing is wrong, or killing anything is wrong, but rather that it is wrong to intentionally killl an innocent human being, which is intuitionally correct."And if one needs any more persuasion that you are an idiot, you wrote back 10,000 words instead of the three which would have sufficed: I was mistaken."This is the ad hominem fallacy. Rather than rationally engaging with me, you insult me, and make arbitrary and unfactual claims.As for being mistaken, that you have not proven. And if you expect me to admit to being wrong though that has not been shown, you are begging the question.
Debate: Is abortion morally justified?
Side: it is

Do you want to know the real irony?Without knowing anything more about you I can already tell that you support the death penalty. Killing things is wrong. But the death penalty is fine. Right buddy?Instead of writing so much, try reading. Go to Wikipedia and look up the phrase "cognitive dissonance".
Debate: Is abortion morally justified?
Side: it is not

"Without knowing anything more about you I can already tell that you support the death penalty."This is not a rational judgment, as you have no evidence or reason to believe that. As a matter of fact, I need not take a position on the death penalty to prove my view. My argument is that it is wrong to intentionally kill an innocent human. Whether it is ever justified to kill guilty people is irrelevant."killing things is wrong. But the death penalty is fine. Right buddy?"This is a straw man argument. I never said "killing things" is wrong. I'm only talking about humans.
Debate: Is abortion morally justified?
Side: it is

This is not a rational judgmentYour first post illustrates that you are unqualified to decide upon what is rational. Indeed, you seem to be having significant difficulty distinguishing what is rational from what is the opinion of a stupid person.as you have no evidence or reason to believe that.Proven inaccurate by the fact that what I said is true. You are anti-abortion and anti-abortionists are almost exclusively in favour of the death penalty. I can also tell that you are a devoutly religious nutbag. It's quite amazing what you can tell about a person if you recognise the signs.My argument is that it is wrong to intentionally kill an innocent human.Again, innocence does not exist in the objective world. It is a subjective concept invented by humans to describe people who are too young to have experienced the evils of misguided morons like you. You are talking about objective rationality but offering only subjective concepts to corroborate the arguments you are making.To be honest I'm done here because I can see that you are not well and trying to reason with you is completely futile. You are so deeply wrapped up in your own ego that anything anybody else says to you is pointless.
Debate: Is abortion morally justified?
Side: it is not

Burrito, all you have done is offer fallacious ad hominem personal attacks and insults, red herrings, and arbitrary claims. You have failed to provide evidence, refute the available evidence, and establish the moral justification of abortion. You did not even attempt to prove your claims.But I'm glad you're done because I don't want to have to ban you.
Debate: Is abortion morally justified?
Side: it is

Burrito, all you have done is offer fallacious ad hominem personal attacks and insultsSince a ten second glance of any of my posts conclusively evidences that is not all I have done, it begs the question why you are telling such ridiculous, whopping great lies. Your problem appears to be that you are not reading any of the things I am writing which refute the idiotic statements you have made, but you are reading the insults which come afterwards. Perhaps you could explain to us why your reading is so selective. Indeed, perhaps you could also explain why those who profess to be religious are always the biggest liars.But I'm glad you're done becauseBecause heaven forbid you would ever think critically about your own opinions, biases and blind religious dogmas.I don't want to have to ban you.You don't have to ban me. You could simply acknowledge the various criticisms I have made of your ridiculous statements and either concede they are false or explain how and why I am wrong. But of course you don't want to do the former and the latter is impossible, so you're gonna go for door number three. Good show.
Debate: Is abortion morally justified?
Side: it is not

Again, you offer no argument for the moral justification of abortion. You falsely accuse me of "blind religious dogmas," though I have said nothing of the kind."You could simply acknowledge the various criticisms I have made of your ridiculous statements and either concede they are false or explain how and why I am wrong."I have done exactly that. I provided scientific evidence that refutes your claims, though you simply ignored that. I've shown what scientists have to say about the humanity of the unborn. I supported my points. You did not.And contrary to what you claim, I have not told any lies.
Debate: Is abortion morally justified?
Side: it is

Unfortunately, some people think personal attacks are acceptable substitutes for reason and evidence, such people do not contribute anything to the conversation. They degrade it and drag it into the mud.
Debate: Is abortion morally justified?
Side: it is not

I agree 100%, Sir Galahad. There is a troll named "Sciencerules". Watch out for him. He also brings in weak strawman attacks and such, uses Wikipedia and slanders about pro lifers etc etc. Just ban him on sight when he comes here. "Sciencerules" has proven to be a snowflake, a screaming karen and also a feminazi. He once threatened that if "We don't accept the leftist feminazi ideology, then we are fascists or whatever." He is such a hypocrite. "Sciencerules" has failed to bring arguments that justify an abortion besides proving that he doesn't care for scientific facts. His username on here is a mockery of real science and he is the pinnacle example of a hypocritical pseudoscience fanatic (Pseudo Science: A science that doesn't have evidence nor facts to back it up). The only thing he can do is throw back and mock the way we "use the baby lives matter" truth to argue that abortion is wrong. It's just pure fact of what we speak of. But he is offended and throws a fit.
Debate: Is abortion morally justified?
Side: it is

Why is it wrong to intentionally kill innocent human beings?What constitutes innocence? What constitutes intention? What foundation does your morality have?
Debate: Is abortion morally justified?
Side: it is not

Why is it wrong to intentionally kill innocent human beings?This is a human life. If you were the newborn fetus, you wouldn't even have a choice. Your parents would have to decide and you're lucky, most loving parents; one mother and one father are loving enough to not abort babies if they have common sense within them.What constitutes innocence? What constitutes intention?Innocence is where you've done nothing wrong. Babies are born with no knowledge of what is in this world. They also have zero intention to do wrong because they have no knowledge. That's why it is important to be nurturing in the righteous way towards the child.What foundation does your morality have?Foundation? The foundation of right vs wrong and ofc, most will say, God. It is absolute fact.
Debate: Is abortion morally justified?
Side: it is not

Nope. It is murder and never will be justified. Those who dehumanize a mere fetus as non living or a parasite says a lot about themselves as they were once a fetus too in his or her mother's womb individually. Baby lives matter.
Debate: Is abortion morally justified?
Side: it is not

Those who deny babies a chance for life are no better than serial killers. Dehumanizing a baby, dehumanizes them too. Think about it this way, if you are a woman and you are reading this, you had sex with a man and you get pregnant, that was your choice and your body too given by God. Now it's your responsibility. Those who want abortions are only running from responsibility.
Debate: Is abortion morally justified?
Side: it is not

It is clear that responsibility doesn't just fall on the woman, it falls unto the man too. It takes two to create a child. Therefore, it's not up to women alone. It's up to both. Women should not silence men on the matter and men should not remain quiet on the matter either. It is a shared responsibility. If you do not want a baby though, then don't have sex foolishly and recklessly. Abusing the gift of procreation from God is not good for anyone. Feminazis claim that it's sexist to involve a man to decide too. However, they are very hypocritical to the core. They forget that a relationship has a man and a woman involved and that it's none of their business. Most feminazis also do not know the pain, the risks and also the emotional side effects of abortion too. Real women have gone through abortions and perhaps most report no regrets and yet....along their lives....they regret it. They finally cry and have a mental breakdown. This is the truth. A baby is cherished from the beginning until the end. Abortionists don't get that concept or rather, they are in-denial about the value of life itself. What does this say about them since they were once fetuses too right? Exactly. I am glad roe v wade got overturned. It is about time that it was. Ron DeSantis is justified 100%. Pro lifers are justified and also Jesus Christ from the New Testament taught that children are to be cherished because they are the most vulnerable and the most precious. Children are in danger today. We must do everything we can to protect them.
Debate: Is abortion morally justified?
Side: it is not

Scientific Facts about how a fetus is living: https://www.mccl.org/post/2017/12/20/the-unborn-is-a-human-being-what-science-tells-us-about-unborn-children It may not be developed to the fullest. Does that mean you may justify it to die? No.End of another chapter.
Debate: Is abortion morally justified?
Side: it is not

The risks of Abortion:https://www.compasscare.info/health-information/abortion/abortion-risks-and-side-effects/
Debate: Is abortion morally justified?
Side: it is not

Here are four women who have gone through abortions. One or a few will say they've regretted it. None of my arguments have strawman to it. Although most women may claim they never regret having an abortion.....it always comes later because it NEVER rests on their conscience. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgvOtrBbYE0 God prevails!
Debate: Is abortion morally justified?
Side: it is not

Ex female abortionist regrets holding up her abortion sign:https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/  250254/women-regret-abortion-find-healingMany women say they don't regret an abortion is solely because they are affected by today's third wave feminazism. Yes, that's right. They are only saying that because they are brainwashed. All non redeemable feminazis will be wiped from the earth. Women who realize the truth of how much babies are precious will wake up from their mind controlled state and stand against the feminazis regime. To the women out there, I may not understand the pain of pregnancy but as a man, I know I would be responsible and I do not run from my responsibilities. Having an abortion is running from your responsibilities. Once you see that, you will realize how wrong you were for supporting the termination of a newborn child. Children have the right to live. You were once a fetus yourself. What does that say about yourself? Oh please, don't try to use the "But you are trying to make me feel guilty" kind of statement. It doesn't work because are you offended by the truth? If you are offended and if you are a woman, you deserve to be sterilized. If you are a man tho and you want your wife's child or girlfriend's child to die, even though you are the dad here not the mom, you deserve to be imprisoned as well because you equally had a hand in creating the child in the first place. All abortionists deserve to be imprisoned for life. Dehumanizing a fetus to a mere parasite says alot about yourself as a human being because you were once in your mother's womb. Did she not push you out and bring you into this world? If you had been aborted, you wouldn't even get to have your say and that's what's unfortunate about those newborn baby boys and girls. They could have lived better lives than all of you abortionists combined. But it doesn't matter to you about whether a baby lives right? Why? Because you are so selfish when you made the decision to have sex and won't take responsibility! That IS THE TRUTH! To all pro lifers, keep standing up for truth. DO NOT BE AFRAID!God prevails.
Debate: Is abortion morally justified?
Side: it is not

Evidence of women testifying that abortion is terrifying:https://siragainesville.com/abortion-regrets-a-sad-reality-for-many-  women/[Attempt to say that "it's a strawman attack" and you will automatically be destroyed by your own words. I dare you because I know some of you are naive enough to step out of line. There will be zero mercy for the wicked of this world. You have been warned.] - This message is aimed at hypocritical snowflake "sciencerules". You are warned.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

Abortion is murder because babies that are not born yet are still humans, they just are not fully formed yet. It is an action because the doctor is taking an action to kill the baby. The shit that people are talking about that babies not born yet are not humans is not logical.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

I agree. I dislike the idea of abortion and the concepts "supporting" it.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

Also, studies say that mothers have domain over their baby, so therefore they have the right to kill it. That is not true. That is like saying a slave is yours and then you murder him/her because you do not want them around. THAT IS COMPLETELY ILLOGICAL!
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is NOT Murder

First off Christianity is filled with flaws and illogical reasoning and ridicule towards other religions. Second what if a woman were impregnated during rape and didn't want to have a rapists baby inside of them because that child would scar them and remind them of the rape.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is NOT Murder

Your logic is fundamentally flawed. Would you say that a fertilised egg is still a human?If you say yes: How is a clump of some cells with no shape or unified purpose or ability to exist independently a life form? If you say no: Then you have conceded because it is impossible to draw any a line in foetus development between a point where the foetus is an arrangement of cells and a point where the foetus is considered human and where abortion would then be considered murder thereafter. This is because any such line creates holes in logic, for if one day a baby is a human due to some classification, then why was it not the week before, or even then day before? How does one day an arrangement of cells be just that, an arrangement of cells, and the next day it be something for which getting rid of it is considered murder? How is this possible - it isn't, you can't draw the line in the same way that you cannot point a finger to when some grains of sand become what we call a "pile" of sand. Therefore I believe your argument has no sound backing and you are speaking with emotional disgust rather than actual consideration of what is happening, not even getting into the morality of abortion under particular circumstances.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is NOT Murder

Abortion is a murdern because if somebody abort a child she have kill the child and the child she abort she don't known maybe he/she we become the president of its country and when that person known that she's not ready to bear child can't she abstain from sexual intercourese
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is NOT Murder

Abortion is a murdern because if somebody kill another person maybe mistakely or knowingly they we count it as murdern, and for the people that about they kill too
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is NOT Murder

Abortion is a murder because if somebody kill another person maybe mistakely or knowingly they we count it as murder, and for the people that about they kill too
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

Can you please learn to use the English language or kill yourself.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

Genetically speaking, a fertilised embryo is still a human. You did state, and i quote that a growing embryo was a "A clump of some cells with no shape or unified purpose or ability to exist" but the problem is that if the so-called "clump of cells" that you speak of can exist, or there would be no way for us to reproduce, it just needs support from the mother to survive. the problem with your argument is that after the baby is born it is still helpless. Just because in the first few months of life, a human baby can barely lift its head, does not mean we have the right to kill it. Using that exact same argument, it could be justified that you could kill your baby AFTER it is born as well.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

I think that abortion is a way to kill, because in the womb of the mother there is a fetus that although not born yet, has life and develops day by day. So even if the fetus is not fully formed, feels, grows, dreams, feeds, develops over time and this only occurs in a living being. Therefore if it is a living being, it has a developing life like any human being in the world. And if a living being is deprived of life, it would be to kill and snatch life from a human being. That he even began to live.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is NOT Murder

What if taking the baby to birth would endanger the mothers life? Would you really sacrifice the life, or QUALITY of life of a mother for a unformed fetus? And what if a women was raped? Or what if a 15 year old had sex and the condom broke and having a child would be unbearable for the mother? Think about QUALITY of life.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

Why do you want to have risky fun.....and when the rubber prank goes wrong, you try to preempt the consequences.Its murder.its a deliberate attempt to seize the existence of a human being .It doesn't matter the state of the human being. Its an attack on a defenseless human. Had it been older and not delicate, it would have fought to protect its right to life.Irrational situation;The only persons who can abort are people who were aborted at birth..... and will therefore will be doing that in the name of payback(still not fair....innocent victim).Therefore if you were not aborted, you have no right to abortion.Apparently no such human exists.…………………………………………… And addressing rape....There are many orphanage homes so you donot have an excuse.