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Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: Yes, it is the word of God

Who says we cannot question what is from God and not from God?http://www.pleaseconvinceme.com/index/pg79644 Thats just historical... if you'd like to go scientific/philosophical just give a holla!They are as they have been recorded in the Bible.Why should a rational person believe anything?
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

XD LAMBS XDSounds like a cult to me.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

Talking snakes and donkeys. A flood covering the whole Earth, yet no trace of the extra water. Fantastical beasts and people being turned into, of all things, salt. They pretty much checked off every number on "Fairy Tale Writing for Dummies".
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: Yes, it is the word of God

In the beginning there was nothing, then nothing happened to nothing. This consequently caused a huge explosion from which the universe appeared! This lead to lot's of rocks floating around in nothing smashing into each other, which then caused life! However this lifeform was only tiny and wanted to gain an advantage over the other lifeforms (if there were any) it had to change and evolve. This led to life appearing in all it's forms and the world becoming what it is today. It's very easy to ridicule something if you ignore all the explanations.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

In the beginning there was a singularity, then it had a quantum fluctuation. This consequently caused the Big Bang, from which all of the energy of the singularity now began to experience Space and Time and the Laws of physics, leading to the potential for the universe to form as we know it. The simplest elements, hydrogen and helium formed, and in certain gravitational regions, formed stars. These stars created the remaining elements through fusion. When the first generation of stars died, the matter within them was spewed throughout the universe, creating rocks, dust and gas. Sometimes gravitation or the effects of nearby supernovas would cause these regions to condense and coalesce, forming solar systems. In most cases, planets and often entire solar systems are probably not in the position to form life, but since water and organic materials are both very common throughout the cosmos, it stands to reason that, once in a great while, the features of a new solar system would be able to eventually foster life, once the planet in question has cooled down.Combining organic compounds with other chemicals and heat can create self-replicating "bubbles". If one of the bubbles happens to develop a method of using the outside heat energy we already discussed, this process can go on for quite some time, and with more time, bigger bubbles and more elements and molecules being added, we increase the possibility of internal metabolism and nucleic sequences that propagate themselves and the molecules riding along with them. Then we get simple life. Not yet locked into a complex DNA code and only needing a few relatively simple structures, this may have been the most versatile life ever known. It could have taken on countless forms, most of which were failures, but a few managed to be well suited to the environment, and some of those became suited to surrounding environments. The increasing range of life combined with opening up new environments created a smorgasbord of possibilities for natural selection to sculpt them even further. Huge events like some life releasing oxygen when they metabolize and later life forms becoming predators made huge changes in the course of evolution for most organisms, and the radiation to land also opened up many possibilities. This led to life appearing in all it's forms and the world becoming what it is today. It's very easy to ridicule something if you ignore all the explanations.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: Yes, it is the word of God

You've misinterpreted the meaning of my argument. I was stating how you ignored the explanations and meanings of the Bible, in an attempt to poke fun at it.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

Me, I poke fun at everything. This world takes itself too damned seriously. Especially when it comes to religion. Most religions have something worth listening to. Most religions can be used in deep and spiritually nurturing philosophical discussions.The problem is, most religions don't stop there. They try to tell history too. And they so often do it by depicting a land that is so far removed from what we can observe that it becomes pretty difficult to take it as fact.I can watch a Disney film and get the moral they are trying to teach. But the Bible is not going to convince me that animals can speak English any more than Disney could.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

Wow, spectacularly well said. Not only do they try to tell history, they try to interfere in the politics of the world as well. There are so many laws in the U.S. that are based entirely on religions. No alcohol to be sold on sundays, homosexuals cannot marry, etc. It's nonsense! Get religion out of politics.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

Nah- It's the big crunch: that is the best theory out there. Evolution- it's all to do with radiation knocking away atoms in dna causing mutations... pretty simple stuff really.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: Yes, it is the word of God

You are aware that God is supernatural right? It seems like you're putting some hefty limits on what he is capable of doing...
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

Its not like I'm saying he could not do these things. I'm saying I do not find the Bible convincing. If these sorts of things were going on today and had better historical support, I might be singing a different tune. Everybody from the ancient Greeks, to the Brothers Grimm to Disney has conjured up similar kinds of tales, and we don't give them credence.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

No evidence? Just thoughts?So, we're all in agreement then? The Bible is just a bunch of silly stories?
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: Yes, it is the word of God

Just because there's no evidence doesn't mean its not true. If that's your conclusion, that's fine, you can believe whatever you want.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

But there is evidence that it is not true.The discovery of evolution and dinosaurs and carbon dating are all evidence that there was no garden of eden in the beginning or couple that named all the animals and talked to snakes. I can provide plenty of evidence that snakes do not talk if you'd like. I can provide evidence that you cannot start a healthy population from two individuals. The now known world of millions of species of animals is very good evidence that they did not all get on the boat before this worldwide flood of Noah. Did kangaroos hop over oceans to get to Noah in the middle east? How is it that the kangaroos survived the flood? I can provide plenty of evidence that kangaroos cannot hop over oceans.There is nothing but evidence to support the claim that these are all silly stories. It's quite easy to explain why a human being could not live in a fishes stomach for 3 days, or why Noah's Ark is not likely, or why there was no garden of eden. Is there any real evidence to the contrary besides this silly book?
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: Yes, it is the word of God

You seem to have a huge flaw in your reasoning. You think that God's past miracles require surviving evidence. Why would this be true?
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

It is absolutely true, guy. I require evidence to believe it happened. That's a fact. No claim can be made without evidence. No claim. Darwin didn't just come out and say "its true because god said its true!" No, he showed evidence to support his claim of the evolutionary process and survival of the fittest. The huge flaw in reasoning would be believing something of which you have no evidence.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: Yes, it is the word of God

It is absolutely true, guy.No its not. I require evidence to believe it happened. That's a fact.Well, there is no scientific evidence, so I guess you can't be helped.No claim can be made without evidence. No claim.Sure it can. Maybe in your eyes, but many people have plenty of reasons to believe in this claim, scientific evidence is inconsequential to the existence of God. Darwin didn't just come out and say "its true because god said its true!"Good for Darwin, but this is not even related.The huge flaw in reasoning would be believing something of which you have no evidence.Again, you may believe this is a flaw, but hundreds of millions would disagree.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

God is an elf and he lives in my shoe!You must believe that right? Because "scientific evidence is inconsequential".You cant argue with a guy that does not value science or evidence. You must be a strong believer in Sasquatch, lock-ness, fairies, aliens, genies, trolls, vampires, goblins, elves, and santa clause. Because there is no evidence to support these things being real either and " scientific evidence is inconsequential" right?
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

Evidence is all we have to protect us from lies. The justice system understands that. The academic community understands that. Science understands that. Every single section of society follows this principal, except for the the religious community. In the religious community, evidence is ignored. With religion, people can believe that detonating a bomb in a marketplace will reward them with 72 virgins, they can believe a ritual bath will cleanse them of sin, they can believe they are eating the body and blood of a man that lived 2000 years, in crackers and juice. ANYTHING can be believed though religion, ANYTHING.Without evidence, one can believe that 75 million years ago Xenu brought billions of people to Earth in spacecraft resembling Douglas DC-8 airliners, stacked them around volcanoes and detonated hydrogen bombs in the volcanoes. And now we need to buy their thetan meter to get these souls out of us. That is a messy path to be on my friend. I'd like the take the clear, logical path in my thinking and my life.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

Spectacularly well said. I'll quote Thomas Paine "To argue with a man who has renounced the use and authority of reason is like administering medicine to the dead". Troy8 seems to be of the opinion that because it has not been disproven, that it is likely that it could be true. This is a logical fallacy. One does not need to disprove a claim, in order to be reasonably certain of its unlikeliness. You seem to have a huge flaw in your reasoning. You think that God's past miracles require surviving evidence. Why would this be true?So you're saying that God erased all of the evidence for his past miracles, and is intentionally preventing the discovery of anything that would definitively prove his existence scientifically? I sense a logical fallacy here, for this is an unfalsifiable theory. An unfalsifiable theory is meaningless, as there is no way to be certain of its truth or falsehoods, rendering it irrelevant and pointless to discussion.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: Yes, it is the word of God

God is an elf and he lives in my shoe!God is a supernatural being, thus he does not physically reside within the universe.You must believe that right? Because "scientific evidence is inconsequential".You're completely misunderstanding my point. I'm saying I'm not going to dismiss the existence of God just because there is no scientific evidence. You cant argue with a guy that does not value science or evidence.I do value science and evidence, God and science are not totally mutually exclusive. This is a common misconception.You must be a strong believer in Sasquatch, lock-ness, fairies, aliens, genies, trolls, vampires, goblins, elves, and santa clause. Because there is no evidence to support these things being real either and " scientific evidence is inconsequential" right?Actually I don't believe in any of those things. This is a classic atheist argument, unfortunately these two are completely different beliefs. Everything that you've suggested is just a result of the human imagination, not of actual experience. None of these things explain anything about the natural world. People just claim to have 'seen' them, and as these myths spread, more people expect to see them, so they think they see them. But this is just foolishness, these creatures have no explanatory value. Actually, the comparison is very ignorant and stupid. God however, is a legitimate attempt to explain the origin of the universe. There's a lot of things that do point to the existence of an intelligent designer. Just a take a couple examples: The fine-tuning of the universe and the digital code in the DNA molecule. There's complexity and some people find it ridiculous that this complexity just appeared over a vast amount of time. Also, lots of people experience God in many ways. This is something you might be able to dismiss, but those that have a personal relationship with God have no reason whatsoever to believe he does not exist. It's more than just a belief in fairy creatures. Obviously you have never experienced this, and I respect that. But don't demean other people's beliefs because you really are pretty clueless when it comes to reasons people choose to be Christians in the first place. Sure, its not scientific, but don't assume that you know all the reasons people believe in God for. It only makes you look like the unintelligent one.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

It's not really about what I look like, its about destroying false information and replacing it with truth. I actually think some kind of god to explain the origin of the universe is not that bad of an idea, so I'm not an atheist, but that is not what we are debating about. We are talking about these three silly-ass stories that defy all science and believability. Actually, Troy, I come from a very Christian family and have 2 brothers that are very involved in the church, as I was for 20 some years. I never assume to know why anyone believes this garbage because people believe it for all kinds of different reasons, Troy. My background means that I'm very well versed in this silly ass book so I'll have no problem pointing out the ridiculousness of it's contents. I've read it and studied various chapters intensely. I was a confused kid. Now, as a grown up, If someone claims to have a personal relationship with god, I think they are lying to themselves. They do so because that is what is necessary to hold on to these comfortable believes they have always grown up with. It's a wonderful idea that we could all have our family and friends and live in paradise forever when we die, unfortunately the evidence does not point to that. So personally, after over 20 years of believing horseshit and being very well versed in said horseshit, I think for you to believe these 3 stories as fact is "very ignorant and stupid", and "it only makes you look like the unintelligent one."But that's just my opinion.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: Yes, it is the word of God

Alright, let me say I am sorry for your experience. I apologize for anything I've said that might have offended you. I'm not going to continue this silly argument because clearly we have no common ground.All I say is that you really have it in for Christianity. It shows in most of your arguments and even your choice of username. But we don't need to be patronizing each other like this.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: Yes, it is the word of God

"The discovery of evolution and dinosaurs and carbon dating are all evidence that there was no garden of eden in the beginning or couple that named all the animals and talked to snakes. I can provide plenty of evidence that snakes do not talk if you'd like. I can provide evidence that you cannot start a healthy population from two individuals."Where in the Bible does it state that snakes talk and the entire population of the world came from Adam and Eve?
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

Its says so in Genesis 3 in the king james version:1 Now the serpent was more subtle than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the gardenSo that is where the bible says it.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: Yes, it is the word of God

It is pretty clear that the serpent was a form of demonic spirit, hence the talking.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

I don't find that clear at all. Does anyone else think that is clear?
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: Yes, it is the word of God

"So the great dragon was cast out, othat serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." Revelation 12:9Yup, it's pretty clear to me. "serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who decieves the whole world".
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

That is clear? A snake called the Devil and Satan. Does that seem clear to anyone? Why a snake? Why not the humpback whale of old? Or the old lizard? Does god hate snakes? Why are there snakes if God hates snakes? Why did god create something to hate on? Is the devil a powerful being or a snake? If Satan is just a snake I don't see what we all have to worry about guys.All the snakes I've ever been around do not talk anyway. I'm pretty sure snakes have never talked. I'm not sure how a snake would deceive anyone unless it could talk, and I'm sure it would have a pretty limited vocabulary considering a snakes tiny brain size. Don't you think?It seems like your answers do not answer anything and they actually create a lot of silly questions.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

When I read them, they lower my opinion of God. Here's a guy who can sit upon the Infinite and say "Let there be light" and THEN 'THERE'S LIGHT". But when it comes to saving the world from a flood, he's gotta go to the desert and tell an old man to build a boat, a really HUGE fucking boat. But wait! There's more. Now, we need you together two species of every kind ---even though scientist would later prove that the ark could have even come close to holding all of them--- and then they gotta wait for it to rain. That just seems like an awful lot of work for both Noah and God. It seems that if I were God I may want to... I dont' know.... DO SOMETHING ABOUT THE RAIN!!! And that makes me think that this God that everyone worships isn't all that bright.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: Yes, it is the word of God

How is God not smart? He created the cell that has a "tail" that spins at 100,000 rpms... not even our smartest scientists can create anything like that let alone from nothing!
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

He uses violence to solve his problems, typically a sign of extreme stupidity.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: Yes, it is the word of God

Who says? That is merely subjective and has no bearing on whether He truly is or not.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

Not who, but what: the Bible. I assumed we were talking about the Christian god. And when you say it's subjective, are you referring to his violence or my opinion of it as stupid?
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: Yes, it is the word of God

Who says that it is stupid?Who says that what God does is stupid?
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

I did. You don't think violence indicates a definite lack of intelligence and imagination? There are so much more subtle methods of getting what you want - and not coming across like a thug in the process. Based on his track record in the Bible, he is the kind of guy that if you were to play, say, chess with, the second he loses his first piece he kicks over the table and punches you in the face.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: Yes, it is the word of God

I don't think God would ever lose a game of chess. ;)
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

I don't think god would ever be inclined to even play a game of chess, but theoretically he would win, yes. This doesn't mean he wouldn't loose a few pieces, though. But god isn't infallible; look at his reaction to his failing to create perfect human beings back in Genesis. He doesn't work to bring about change, he doesn't attempt to positively influence the outcome, and he doesn't approach his needs and wants regarding humanity with diplomacy; he just kills 99% of the people on the planet and starts over. Instead of offering treatment or sympathy to those he deems sinful, he condemns, destroys, punishes them for it, as illustrated by his famous destruction of two sinful cities and by the concept of hell, itself.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

Prove it.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: Yes, it is the word of God

Prove what?The minimum length for an argument is 50 characters. The purpose of this restriction is to cut down on the amount of dumb jokes, so we can keep the quality of debate and discourse as high as possible.
Debate: Noah's Ark, Jonah and the Whale, Adam and Eve....Do you believe in fairy tales?
Side: No, it should not be believed

That God created the cell that goes 10,000 RPM etc...