azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I Support it

That's still empathy, mate. An emotion. You said they don't feel emotions at all, but have also linked to sources that prove they do. Regardless, you're not saying anything that justifies executing criminals due to their mental state.It's not empathy because empathy is related to other people, It just means they have feel a vague sense of displeasure. They also fear absolutely no fear, either.Not if your argument relies on statistics you're pulling out of nowhere. Regardless, you're not saying anything that justifies executing criminals due to their mental stateSo now you're saying that in order to satisfy you I should post meaningless statistics? Statistics always contradict each other. Statistics are not solid facts, unlike what you might think (you'll understand one day, boy).I don't have to satisfy you at all. If you have this opinion then just keep it to yourself, I don't need to know this. I'm not here to satisfy you through statistics, I'm just here to prove my point.So don't wait on the edge of your seat in anticipation because it's not my job to satisfy you.And Statistics mean nothing, either. So, no.You're not saying anything that justifies executing criminals due to their mental stateDon't you get it, psychopaths are at an even low state than animals. They feel no fear, no empathy for others, etc. They don't feel any joy at looking at beautiful paintings or watching the sunset. They sense no happiness at holding a newborn baby for the first time. They are so devoid it's unfathomable. Psychopaths lie compulsively because they have zero connection to the truth, they just don't care about what is factual or true, they just don't have the emotions regarded to regard the truth. If you look into the eyes of some horrid murderer or bully you can see the void within them right there.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I oppose it

It's not empathy because empathy is related to other peopleIt's literally referred to as empathy. It's an emotion. They're experiencing it. Even if you wanna describe it as a "vague sense of displeasure", that's still an emotion. So now you're saying that in order to satisfy you I should post meaningless statistics?Nope, I'm saying if you pull a random figure out of your ass (like, say, "50% of prison inmates are psychopaths!"), you're gonna have to back it up. Statistics are not solid facts, unlike what you might thinkWrong. The conclusions people reach from statistics aren't solid facts, but the statistics themselves are factual. I don't have to satisfy you at all [...] because it's not my job to satisfy you.Then stop replying.Don't you get it, psychopaths are at an even low state than animals. No, I don't get it, because you haven't said anything whatsoever that could support that idea. Psychopathic people feel emotions, and you readily admitted that they don't all fall into criminal lifestyles, so why the hell do you think we should execute any of them that do commit a crime?
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I Support it

It's literally referred to as empathy. It's an emotion. They're experiencing it. Even if you wanna describe it as a "vague sense of displeasure", that's still an emotion. Psychopaths only feel displeasure when they imagine themselves in those situations, not when they imagine others in those situations, which means they only care for themselves, not others. Get it? That's hardly empathy. I don't care whether the article calls it empathy, it's somewhat misworded on their part.Nope, I'm saying if you pull a random figure out of your ass (like, say, "50% of prison inmates are psychopaths!"), you're gonna have to back it up. I said 50% because I remembered it as 50% last time I had checked, buck up. I shouldn't be forced to post statistics, because statistics themselves can sometimes be wrong as well. There are loads of statistics that all say entirely different things, one source may provide statistics that imply one thing, while another source may imply something completely different. I don't have to provide statistics in order to prove my point. You a statistician?Statistics are not solid facts, unlike what you might thinkWrong, already explained this.Then stop replying.If you are unable to be satisfied by my comments, then you should stop responding, not me. I respond for reasons other than to satisfy you and make you happy. My purpose is merely to provide what I see as evidence or to ask questions to find out what your perspective is, conversing is about asking questions, so there is nothing wrong with the questions that I ask.No, I don't get it, because you haven't said anything whatsoever that could support that idea. Psychopathic people feel emotions, and you readily admitted that they don't all fall into criminal lifestyles, so why the hell do you think we should execute any of them that do commit a crime?Take your time, there is no need to rush, I will eventually explain my perspective.It's not timed, it's a debate site open to everyone at any time.The psychopaths that don't commit crimes are useful to society in some aspects on occasions, but the psychopaths that commit rape and murder aren't useful whatsoever.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I oppose it

Psychopaths only feel displeasure when they imagine themselves in those situationsOkay, sure, let's just roll with that. Does that really justify executing them? Why not try for rehabiliating them by treating their psychopathic traits?i shouldn't be forced to post statisticsYou're not being forced to use statistics to support your arguments, but if you choose to include them then you need to pove their validity. True that dufferent sources may have conducted different surveys or experiments that have lead to different statistical results, but that just means we need to analyze them and find what the differentiating (is that a word? Eh you know what I mean) factor was. Or at least, we'd need to do that if you decided, of your own vocation, to include some statistics in your argument.Wrong, already explained thisStatistics are just data. The conclusions we reach might be wrong, and the data may not be indicative of the entire population, but that doesn't change the fact that (assuming the research wasn't an outright fabrication) the data itself is factual. but the psychopaths that commit rape and murder aren't useful whatsoeverRehabilitation and treatment are better choices than executing someone
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I Support it

Okay, sure, let's just roll with that. Does that really justify executing them? Why not try for rehabiliating them by treating their psychopathic traits?Psychopaths don't change.You're not being forced to use statistics to support your arguments, but if you choose to include them then you need to pove their validity. I already have provided a few statistics, I don't need to provide any more statistics. I don't need to provide sources to prove that statistics are valid.Statistics are just data. The conclusions we reach might be wrong, and the data may not be indicative of the entire population, but that doesn't change the fact that (assuming the research wasn't an outright fabrication) the data itself is factual. Statistics may just data within themselves, but they aren't reliable as evidence.Rehabilitation and treatment are better choices than executing someoneA psychopath can't change.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I oppose it

Psychopaths don't change.Moot point; killing them is out of the question. Admit them to a psychiatric ward and keep them there if you must, try treating them and hopefully they'll make enough progress to function in society, but don't just kill them because it's easier than dealing with the problem.I already have provided a few statistics, I don't need to provide any more statistics. I'm not saying you need to provide more, I'm saying that if you want the statistics you used to be considered valid you need to give a reputable source on them. Which you haven't done. I don't need to provide sources to prove that statistics are valid.Yes you do? Otherwise we could just make any random statistic up, I could say "99% of psychopaths use their emotional detachment to work as doctors and caregivers without the need for regular psychological support". Statistics may just data within themselves, but they aren't reliable as evidence.They do not prove a point, but they support a point. A psychopath can't change.Moot point; killing them is out of the question. Admit them to a psychiatric ward and keep them there if you must, try treating them and hopefully they'll make enough progress to function in society, but don't just kill them because it's easier than dealing with the problem.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I Support it

Moot point; killing them is out of the question. Admit them to a psychiatric ward and keep them there if you must, try treating them and hopefully they'll make enough progress to function in society, but don't just kill them because it's easier than dealing with the problem.Psychopaths fool their therapists. Psychopaths only pretend to change and prison wardens end up getting fooled and so to judges end up getting fooled and end up releasing the psychopath based on the assumption that psychopaths can change.Of course psychopaths can be studied psychologically before their execution date sets in, but when that happens they must be proceeded to be killed off.But just because you can study psychopaths doesn't mean you should give them therapy. Psychopaths don't really need therapy, nor do they really want therapy. All psychopaths ever want really is just an opportunity to manipulate, in the form of being given a therapist to con.I'm not saying you need to provide more, I'm saying that if you want the statistics you used to be considered valid you need to give a reputable source on them. Which you haven't done. My method of debating is through using words to prove statistics. And more sources would just mean more statistics!We need no more statistics! Sources are just statistics usually.I may use statistical sources later on when I see fit, but not now!Yes you do? Otherwise we could just make any random statistic up, I could say "99% of psychopaths use their emotional detachment to work as doctors and caregivers without the need for regular psychological support".Debating is all about using the invention of words to provide evidence. You can prove that "99%" with your words.They do not prove a point, but they support a point. Anything that supports a point is the road to proving a point. Statistics don't always support a point.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I oppose it

[all that shit about being allowed to study them before executing them]Okay look you're missing a fundamental point here: even if you're right about psychopaths, that still doesn't justify executing them. Permanent admission to a psych ward, kept under observation, is the far more humane way to deal with the issue. I may use statistical sources later on when I see fit, but now now!I am not forcing you to cite sources or statistics, merely informing you that IF you use a statistic in future arguments THEN you will need to PROVE the validity of that figure.Debating is all about using the invention of words to provide evidence. You can prove that "99%" with your wordsNo, you can't. That's not how proof or words work. Anything that supports a point is the road to proving a point. Statistics don't always support a pointHow can you not be getting this, I'm honestly baffled. Like, do you you understand what statistics actually fucking are?
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I Support it

Okay look you're missing a fundamental point here: even if you're right about psychopaths, that still doesn't justify executing them. Permanent admission to a psych ward, kept under observation, is the far more humane way to deal with the issueHumane applies to humans. Psychopaths aren't humans.I am not forcing you to cite sources or statistics, merely informing you that IF you use a statistic in future arguments THEN you will need to PROVE the validity of that figure.Repetition is forcing. You are trying to force me. You may not be aware of it, but you are. To prove the validity of something you are implying that I must source something.No, you can't. That's not how proof or words work.Oh, how I love words.How can you not be getting this, I'm honestly baffled. Like, do you you understand what statistics actually fucking are?Of course I do.Calm down.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I oppose it

Humane applies to humans. Psychopaths aren't humans.Yes they are, or the psychopaths you admitted were in management roles in businesses wouldn't be able to hold those positions.To prove the validity of something you are implying that I must source something.To prove the validity of a statistic, sure! You can't just pull numbers out of nowhere and expect them to be taken seriously, Blizzardbird.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I Support it

Yes they are, or the psychopaths you admitted were in management roles in businesses wouldn't be able to hold those positions.Psychopaths that run businesses have no emotions, they just engage in any occupation that serves their ego. They may be able to keep their job as a CEO, business manager, law etc, but they are merely fulfilling their own ego.To prove the validity of a statistic, sure! You can't just pull numbers out of nowhere and expect them to be taken seriously, BlizzardbirdYou just don't seem to grasp authority.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I oppose it

they just engage in any occupation that serves their egoLots of people do that. Being self-serving doesn't warrant execution.You just don't seem to grasp authorityAre you seriously saying that you don't need to validate your statistics because you have authority? Really?
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I Support it

Lots of people do that. Being self-serving doesn't warrant execution.We aren't talking about people in business, anyway.We are talking about executing those who murder.Those psychopaths in business may be serving their own ego, but they are still useful assets to the industry of innovation.Psychopaths aren't just self serving. They are black hollow shells. The black hollow shells that have important jobs are useful to society, but the black hole shells that murder people have no value or necessity to exist at al.Psychopaths are black hollow shells full of nothing but an empty ego.Psychopaths egos eat everything in their path.Are you seriously saying that you don't need to validate your statistics because you have authority? Really?Authority is established through ones words.Use words.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I oppose it

But there are alternatives to executing them, Blizzardbird. Even if we suppose that they can't be rehabilitated, they can still be permanently admitted to psychiatric wards. (for what it's worth, your opinion on psychopaths is seriously misguided, but I'm not going to get into a debate about the nature of mental health problems with you)Authority is established through ones words. Use words.I'm not discussing this topic with you any further, it's clear you'll simply toss some semi-random words together into a vague argument and refuse to listen to what I'm saying.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I Support it

But there are alternatives to executing them, Blizzardbird. Even if we suppose that they can't be rehabilitated, they can still be permanently admitted to psychiatric wards. (for what it's worth, your opinion on psychopaths is seriously misguided, but I'm not going to get into a debate about the nature of mental health problems with you)Permanently admitting psychopaths to psychiatric wards is just going to be a waste money.Psychopaths don't even deserve to receive any benefits.I have seen evil first hand, I know what it looks like.There are people out there who seek to kill, steal and destroy.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I Support it

I have seen evil first hand, I know what it looks like.Does it look like people who decide what psychological conditions lead a person to deserve execution?Because it sure sounds like it.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I Support it

Does it look like people who decide what psychological conditions lead a person to deserve execution?Because it sure sounds like itPeople who commit murder have no worth as human beings.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I oppose it

Permanently admitting psychopaths to psychiatric wards is just going to be a waste money.So you want to execute them to save money. Nice. Really showing some of that Christian love there man. I have seen evil first hand, I know what it looks like.I'm sure you have buddy.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I Support it

So you want to execute them to save money. Nice. Really showing some of that Christian love there man. If you kill any human being of any value, you are not saving money. A person of value is worth the money.A person of no value is not worth the money.Evil people who murder are not worth spending the money on.What do you believe makes a person of any value?
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I Support it

"Regarding your other link, you've shown psycopaths do not feel empathy under certain conditions most people do. Empathy isn't the entore emotional spectrum."Re-read the article.It says here"When highly psychopathic inmates imagined themselves in these painful situations, they showed higher-than-normal activity in certain brain regions involved in empathy for pain. But these regions failed to become active when they imagined others in pain.Moreover, when imagining other people in pain, highly psychopathic inmates showed increased activity in a brain area known to be involved in pleasure, according to the study, which was published Sept. 24 in the journal Frontiers in Human Neuroscience."http://www.webmd.com/brain/news/20130925/brain-scans-show-why-psychopaths-dont-feel-your-pain Looks like you haven't read the article properly.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I oppose it

"There are people who have no emotions and they are called psychopaths"~BlizzardbirdWhen I said that you've shown they don't feel empathy the same way non-psychopathic people do, I intended to illustrate that they do still feel empathy, and other emotions, in other circumstances. This was a rebuttal to your point that psychopaths never feel emotions.Nothing you are saying justifies executing people with sever psychopathic tendencies who have committed crimes.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I Support it

Psychopaths have been demonstrated to have no shock response, as well.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I Support it

Also, MRI brain scans have proven that psychopaths feel no emotions.http://www.webmd.com/brain/news/20130925/brain-scans-show-why-psychopaths-dont-feel-your-pain
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I oppose it

You can't give someone the title of a psychopath for expressing zero emotions? Psychopaths can, and have changed due to prison reformation. Saying that psychopaths deserve death is completely out of order.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I Support it

Psychopaths don't change, they just pretend to.Psychopaths mimic emotions and just spend their whole lives deceiving people.They con the people who have imprisoned them and then get a release pretending to have truly changed and then get put back in jail again after committing yet another crime.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I oppose it

If they are innately evil and cannot change then how can they "deserve" to be put to death? If something is not within your ability to control how can you justifiably be held responsible for it?
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I Support it

If they are innately evil and cannot change then how can they "deserve" to be put to death? If something is not within your ability to control how can you justifiably be held responsible for it?Anything innately evil is worthless.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I oppose it

Fortunately the majority of the world doesn't agree with you. You are not the final arbiter of worthiness nor of what is evil. But just for the sake of understanding is it your contention that humans are capable of being worthless and that if worthless then deserving of death?
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I Support it

But just for the sake of understanding is it your contention that humans are capable of being worthless and that if worthless then deserving of death?Absolutely. What do you believe determines what makes a person valuable or of any worth?
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I oppose it

Psychopathy does not equal evil, much less innately evil.If all psychopaths were serial killers, they'd cease to be a novelty.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I Support it

Psychopathy does not equal evil, much less innately evil.If all psychopaths were serial killers, they'd cease to be a novelty.All psychopaths are evil.All evil people are psychopaths.But not all evil people are serial killersNot all evil people are completely destructive,but all serial killers are.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I oppose it

I don't think it's wise for the gov't to have the power of death over its citizens.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I Support it

It is wise for the government to have the power of life and death over it's citizens.The government has our best motives at heart and knows what is right ultimately.Some People need to die.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I oppose it

The government has our best motives at heart and knows what is right ultimately.You can't really believe that surely?
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I Support it

I say it with the deepest of my heart.It is the hatred within you that prevents you from seeing the goodwill of the world.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I oppose it

Mate, are you from the USA? through the NSA your government put blimps into the air to intercept your telephone calls, under project MKULTRA your government experimented on its own citizens, as part of the Manhattan project you were injected with plutonium, added poison to alcohol during prohibition that killed 10,000 people. Of course this is only what they have done to their own citizens. This is why you sound like a bit of an idiot to say that the government has our best interest at heart.
Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I Support it

The NASA has every right to intercept our phone calls.There is no evidence to suggest that MKULTRA really caused any harm. MKULTRA was very useful for research purposes and allowed the government gain the control it needed over society. Society needs controlling.There is little evidence that people were injected with plutonium, nor that the plutonium given was actually a cause of any harmThere is little evidence that alcohol was actually added with "poison", or that people were actually damaged by this so called "poison".----Any evidence that this "poison called over 10,000 people?This is why you sound like a bit of an idiot to say that the government has our best interest at heart.Reiterating ideas without including ones own spin on things is the epitome of stupidity.Do you have any reason to believe the conspiracy theories you do?You haven't provided me with any reasoning for them.What is your reasoning that allows you to believe all these conspiracies?Do you have any?