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Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

First of all it is sad that you would call talking about the life of a human being bullshit. Shows you are losing control...or did not have it from the beginning. One can disagree with something and not use profanity. I have shown by posting here what SCIENCE SAYS ABOUT LIFE AND WHEN IT STARTS. This has nothing to do with religion. As I have said...one need not even bring God into the equation to see that abortion is wrong. Now what I find amusing is this....You say the woman has the right that its her body and she should be able to do with it what she wants. Then you turn around in some self-righteous way...and take this away from the woman in the third trimester. LMAOIs there something wrong with abortion iamdavidh? You must think so or your views wouldnt be like this. Do you know anything about fetal development? You want to enslave a woman to pregnancy....you want to take her right to her body away. Shame on you. For your information....no child at birth could survive without intervention. And even children born at full term might need medical assistance. What difference does it make whether that medical assistance takes place at 22 weeks....38 weeks or when its born?If anyone is contradictory, inhumane, compassionless, cold, empty...as far as their worldview is....its you not me. I simply want to protect human life, the human life that is defenseless against people like you who pain a bullseye on their forhead and want them dead. You are a blamer......you whine and you put the blame places to make yourself feel good about your lack of doing anything for anyone. Why should it be my responsibility to solve the worlds problems? What about personal responsiblity? You're a Democrat aren't you? You are the psychotic one, not me. I work at crisis pregnancy centers and I work at Right to Life and with a group, Silent No More. I do my share. What do you do for mankind besides complain? I am crusading for life and for personal responsiblity. And if you knew anything about abortion, you would see that your last comment is absurd. Why don't you go to the Guttmaucher site on abortion and educate yourself, so you don't look so silly.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

I know this wasn't aimed at me but you never respond to my arguments, it's so frustrating! I give you legitimate sources and facts and instead of accepting them you just use the same lies to argue with another person!no child at birth could survive without interventionLike I said before anyone who believes this is stupid. How long have humans existed? It's only in the last 100 years that medicine has been greatly involved in child birth. Of course babies survive without medical intervention. It's natural to not have someone constantly shoving there fingers in you to check dilation. It's natural to give birth unaided. More and more woman now, even in developed countries are choosing not to have a child in hospital or with medical assistance. Instead they opt to give birth at home naturally and without medical intervention. People in poor countries just give birth in their bed and get on with it! and want them dead.I see you haven't moved on from blaming people for death. How is he responsible for all the woman in the world having an abortion. He didn't choose for them to abort they choose themselves. But at least he didn't get dubbed Hitler like you did for me.Now would you mind responding to my many posts? I've given you the scientific facts about when a fetus can feel pain and when it's brain is active and how that stands with my views on abortion. Why won't you respond to science?
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

I dont particularly care what someone does with their own body if they want to kill their baby thats their problem not mine. What i do think is wrong is when a woman can get like eight abortions, just hand the chick some birth-control and send her home after the first time.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

Why should it matter how many she kills? If abortion isnt anything for you....then why do you care? Should there be a limit on how many she can kill? And I commend you on using the proper terms for abortion, the terms no pro-abort really will use. At least you put it out there for all to see. "Killing their baby"..........
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

I love when someone says what you just did in your post. You don't care if they kill....in your mind its moral.........butthere should be a limit as to how many THEY CAN KILL. LMAOHoney, abortion is a form of birth control for a lot of women.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

First off, I would like to remind everyone that this debate involves the morality of abortion, not the legality of abortion. Those two topics are completely different, especially since the legal system is not set up to be a perfect morality emulator. A fetus does not have the right to life as long as it is nothing more than a product of its mother and father. When that fetus begins to respond to its environment in a way that environmentally expresses its genes to be different than that of what is found in the mother and the father, it is entitled to life. Most scientists believe this occurs in the last trimester of pregnancy, which isn't the best time to have an abortion anyways. But before the fetus begins to respond to its environment like I mentioned, it is not an individual. It has no characteristics different than what the mother and the father have or have at least passed onto it. Something that is not an individual is not entitled to those rights.Regardless, abortion is typically always a tough decision for every woman. Many find it to not be the most moral of decisions, but it is usually found to be the right decision.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

Abortion is the choice of the woman, because she has the child. It is best if at the beginning of pregnancy abortion, because that is the child is not large. Just before the birth abortion, I find it disgusting, because the child has to a large extent to be born perfect. So I think it's good as long as it is the beginning of pregnancy, but just before giving birth.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

It depends on the situation. I am prochoice though. :'(
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

It's not our place to dictate what a woman does with her body. If you think that I am wrong, then that same woman should be able to had a part in the decision of me getting a tattoo. It's none of our business. And FYI, if the church hadn't been so anti-birth control, there would be very little use for abortion. Most abortions would of been prevented if that woman had birth control/proper sex-ed available to her. Maybe instead of blaming the women who made this choice, we should blame the group of people in this country who brought is to this point. Yah, I'm talking about you theists!
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

If someone is a strict constructionist who interprets the Constitution word for word, the sanction for abortion is given under the Fourteenth Amendment. The Fourteenth Amendment of our U.S. Constitution defines a citizen “a citizen” at birth. If a woman is carrying a fetus in the womb, the U.S. Constitution does not designate the fetus as “a citizen.” It would take an amendment to the U.S. Constitution to declare a fetus a citizen. You have to be born in order to be recognized as a citizen. Therefore, a woman does have the right to choose. A fetus inside the womb is not designated as a citizen according to the U.S. Constitution so by default is not entitled to life, liberty, or prosperity. You have to be born in order to be endowed with those privileges. To conclude, neither the Federal government nor any of the States can deny a woman the right to choose. If abortion is murder, abortion would have been terminated years ago due to the cruel and unusual punishment clause under the Eighth Amendment. Again, proof that a fetus is not recognized as a citizen of the United States of America.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

My body, my choice. I don't want sick babies born from my body.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

Nobody has the right to another person's body. A woman has the right, for lack of a better term, evict. It is her body, she does not have to gestate for 9 months if she doesn't want to. Arguments about having sex mean you accept pregnancy are ludicrous.Look at it this way. We don't require parents to give up their organs, or their blood, or their extra kidney, or even their bone marrow in order to save the life of their 1 year old child. If that child needed a transplant or it dies, we do not force the parents to donate. even something like Bone marrow, that will not kill them. We don't force anyone to undergo a medical procedure they don't want to.So why would we force a woman to keep the fetus alive. It uses her kidneys, blood, lungs, etc. Pregnancy can cause health problems and complications worse than being a bone marrow donor, or even a kidney donor. Why would the law force a woman to go through pregnancy until the fetus is born, but not require the parents to keep the born child alive? Why does the fetus get special protection that a child does not? The woman needs to choose to gestate for 9 months, and accept the risks that go with it at every stage. She has the right to change her mind if the risks become to great, or even her awareness of the risks become too great. When she becomes pregnant, she should have the right to research and evaluate the risks of carrying to term consult with her doctor and accept or reject those risks.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

So then you are one of the pro-aborts who believe the woman has the right to kill all the way through the 40 weeks, right? Wow. But the created human being is not apart of the womans body that is what you just don't get. She didnt need to get pregnant if she didn't want too either. The fact is...if you have sex if you are a woman, YOU take the chance of getting pregnant. It is her responsiblity and she is the one taking the RISK. No one else is to blame...unless a rape occurred. Abortion is the most performed medical procedure on earth. It is not like other procedures as abortion kills. The abortionists task, goal is to make sure the human being who is alive, is dead when he/she gets through with it. Now if you don't value life then you condone it. If you do, then you don't. Louise Brown was conceived in a test tube. Other than the egg and the sperm...she did not use any organs of her mothers body.,,just a safe place to grow and mature. Pregnancy and giving birth is the most natural thing on earth. It has been going on since the beginning of time. Most pregnancies are uncomplicated and most women would do fine never even seeing a doctor during pregnancy. A child who is alive would get all the things you say they wouldnt. No hospital on earth would deny lifesaving measures taken to save a child. Even in the cases where parents want to deny....for religious reasons, the courts usually overturn their wishes. Also in the case of death...if parents kill their child out of the womb....its murder. If she (the man is not an issue) kills it while its in the womb....it is not. So the born child gets protection, the womb child does not.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

She didnt need to get pregnant if she didn't want too eitherWhy don't you respond to my posts? I've said this before but woman do take measures to not get pregnant by using contraception. Contraception fails. I got pregnant on the contraceptive pill which I took correctly, it happens (I didn't abort by the way, but it's just an example). Or do you consider contraception killing of a potential child too?The fact is...if you have sex if you are a woman, YOU take the chance of getting pregnant. It is her responsiblity and she is the one taking the RISK. No one else is to blame..Wow , you're one hell of a sexist! Why does a woman have to take sole responsibility of a pregnancy? How dare you say no one else to blame! The man is just as responsible for the action of sex and creating a life yet he wouldn't get your giant speech on the immorality or creating unwanted life. Not once in the whole discussion have you ever mentioned the males role in creating a baby just how terrible the woman is.Louise Brown was conceived in a test tube. Other than the egg and the sperm...she did not use any organs of her mothers bodyShe was conceived in a test tube. She didn't spend 9 months on a petri dish growing. Her embryo was placed into a womb and relied on a woman's organs to live. Your statement is all wrong.If she (the man is not an issue) kills it while its in the womb....it is notThe man is not the issue? Do you realize how many woman get abortions because the person who impregnated them pressured them into doing so? The men often want the woman they got pregnant to abort. He is just as responsible for creating the life as she is and if wants her to abort then he is just as responsible for the termination.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

The responsiblity is HERSStop saying this the man is half responsible for pregnancy he had sex and impregnated. Pregnancy is the responsibility of two people. You think this is just a womans issue, that the father who has DNA in the newly created human being should not have a say in the matter of whether his child is killed or notI'm sorry I must have missed saying that men have no right to decide if his child is aborted. Oh wait that's because I didn't say that... My claims of you being sexist are because what you said is sexist. You're just trying to stipulate what I think when I have not said anything along the lines of males shouldn't be involved or have a say. You want the father to pay, only if SHE decides to have the child...and in that case you would go after him for child supportHuh? Every woman that has a child is single and goes after the father for child support? Not that this has any relevance to abortion since the child would have to be born for a father to pay for it.The man deposits the sperm.....and that is it. She allows him to do thisSexist again. He allows himself to do it as much as she allows him. THEN WHY DENY HIM THE RIGHT TO DECIDE WHAT HAPPENS TO HIS CHILDI don't deny him the right. The mother does, not once have I said this is right or correct. Stop putting words into my mouth. And they aren't always denied the right anyway. A lot of woman consult with the father before having a termination.and your giving her a pity partySo any father who provides for his child, within a relationship or not, is simply giving their child money out of pity? Don't be so idiotic. And stop implying that all a father does is pay money he cares for the child as much as the mother. And by the way, damn right he should pay. He had sex without contraception he knew the consequences as much as the woman, he should be involved with providing financially as much the mother! Brown was no more part of her mothers body when placed there than she had been part of the Petri dish where she was concieved. A child is not part of the body in which she is carriedSince a unborn baby relies on the mother to provide for it through the umbilical cord of course it's a part of her. The embryo didn't rely on the petri dish to nurture and nourish it.But then in your opinion....a poor baby, a handicapped baby...should be left to die...they are not worthy to live.I try my best to avoid getting angry but you just keep making up awful lies about me. I not once said anyone isn't worthy to live or deserves to die. I said I understand if a woman wants to have an abortion for these reasons.You are a blamer........wow. No woman is dragged into an abortion clinic.Who did I blame? When did I say a woman is dragged into an abortion clinic?Look debate with me all you like but don't for one moment assume that you know everything about my opinions and thoughts. Instead of accusing me of ludicrous opinions and awful things that I have said not said perhaps ask for my view on a topic.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

So you are for abortion all throughout the pregnany am I right?So a couple of weeks before she is due and wants to kill her baby, thats ok?Should she be able to kill it say....one minute after its born?
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

That's funny: she was so keen on 'evicting' when she had someone's dick up inside her C:Arguments that say "Cause and Effect don't matter if you don't like it" are also ludicrous. The very purpose of sex IS to have children. That is fact.I love how people like using things with no regard for the CONSEQUENCES and as soon as they are faced with the consequences they decide to take the easy way out. It's the same thing with people who abuse alcohol.You get drunk: The result is a hangover.That's science.You CHOSE to get drunk.You also CHOOSE to risk the hangover.If you can't handle consequences, then don't act on the cause!
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

Abortion is right because the moral values that "pro life" advocates usually hold is that of religious sediments, most of the time disregarding whether or not abortion is helpful to society. Abortion prevents unwanted children, and or growth in areas where we most certainly wouldn't want it. Abortion increases happy family rates, and higher average level of education among families. A fetus is, for all intents and purposes, part of the women until removed from the women, and before any pro lifers try to mince those words I'll go outright and say yes it does mean I support the abortion of a child no matter the stage of development, an unwanted baby that couldn't be dealt with for whatever reason at one point weeks is no different from a unwanted baby at another. Ignorant religious people argue that such barbaric elimination of human life is evil, but I find it odd that they would object to something that would result in the immediate entry to heaven(by my knowledge Christianity, Judaism, and Islam all believe babies who die go straight to heaven). Why subject them to the hardships of life when they aren't wanted? I also agree with the fact that mothers should have the only say in whether or not she has an abortion( I also believe however that a man who wants an abortion but gets denied should have the right to be exempt from child support) My ideas on the subject go into extremes far beyond normal pro choice standards, but I honestly feel satisfaction in knowing I support something that is beneficial to society. And before anyone questions the lack of "morals" behind my believes just know that in our modern world, "morality" has no meaning, just different perceptions developed from our understanding of religion. Without religion there would be no such thing as "evil". I prefer to live in a world driven by logic, and to that point abortion is a logical way to better structure the family units in the world today.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

So if one of your children got a disease...or became handicapped.....would you hire the killing done or would you do it yourself?You said society would be better without people such as this...I assume you meant your family as well. Right?
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

Such a small and lacking response makes me regret complimenting your previous one. "So if one of your children got a disease...or became handicapped.....would you hire the killing done or would you do it yourself?"If it was detected during pregnancy yes I would definitely want an abortion but once it has been born it has entered the realm of society where my line is drawn. You make me out to be some serial killer yet you don't expound on how the reason behind it is flawed, you only call me evil and insult my beliefs and party. "You said society would be better without people such as this...I assume you meant your family as well. Right?" Yes if a defect is detected during pregnancy. Now I am not saying they have to, I am saying that if it was up to me I would choose an abortion, and if you believe that is wrong due to your close minded perception of morality, then that is of no consequence to me. You are trying to run a perceptive analytical argument and it is frustrating me because my source of these views is based on that of a separate pattern of thinking, I am coming from a place of thought and logic, you are coming form a place born from what you perceive to be "right" or "moral" when in fact you have little to no understanding of the impacts such thinking has had on society and yet you call me a danger. If you think my views on abortion are somewhat cruel, Im sure my views on religion would surprise you even more.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

So why are you not answering this question? It speaks volumes.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: You're Stupid

Im confused, I did answer your question, did you just not read my post? Speaks volumes.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

You make several erroneous Assertions in your post. Atheism is not a religion. It is the rejection of religion. It requires no active belief. If there were no theists there would be no atheists - we'd all just be people. Atheist is a rejection of Theism. Much like no believing in unicorns or leprechauns or anything else people claim exists but can't prove exists. Not believing in something is not a religion or else we all belong to hundreds of religions.Abortion does prevent unwanted children. There are 1.25 Million abortions performed in the US every year. Currently there are less than 200.000 families trying to adopt. You do the math. We'd vastly outstrip the adoptive parents in the first year alone.Women ages 20-24 are not out of high school adn college. a 4 year degree means you graduate when you are 22, some may never go but some also get higher degrees or go part time, or take a year off - so many 20-24 year olds are not out of college.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

Good point, although now he will drop his attempt at a analytic argument and just start attacking the "morals" behind it.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

Even the Supreme Court called atheism a religion. http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45874 http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20100610223655AAyJOMg So you are wrong.