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Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Horrible.

Morality is absolutely what makes us "better" than them. But morality is HIGHLY subjective. They believe themselves to be fulfilling the will of God (wrongly), and, thefroe, believe their actions to be infallible. Morality is the reason why we find this act horrible and why we find the death of a bird no different than the death of the child.Our morality is almost entirely based on societal acceptance of things. Birds are not equal members of human society as humans, and it would be illogical to treat them as such. Of course some believe they are more equal than other, but I don't think anyone see them as equal members of society. have no evidence, so i can't this is knowledge. But i believe this is true.Well, it can't be proven; but I completely agree with you.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Horrible.

Is the life of a child no different than the life of an small insect? I think so universally. Morally, no. I think it is no morally because who would you save first from a moving train if a child and an insect was tied to the train tracks? My mind tells me to save the child. Universally, i don't think there is a difference. You may think it is illogical but i think it is very logical. When i say universally, i mean life entirely. I think all life is the same. So with these two different perspectives, i don't know which is the truth? If God does exist, then humane morality is the truth because we are his soul purpose. It wouldn't make sense to why he would send us to earth without any knowledge of the truth. But He is difficult to prove. So now im confused. This sir is what goes through my mind. lol
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Horrible.

Is the life of a child no different than the life of an small insect?I think so universally. Morally, no.You have not given any arguments either way.If God does exist, then humane morality is the truth because we are his soul purpose.What is "humane" morality? The word "humane" is defined, according to the OED, as "Characterized by such behaviour or disposition towards others as befits a man."
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Funny.

You have not given any arguments either way.I supported Apollo's comment. My comment never intended to be an argument. What is "humane" morality?Im sorry. Im not very clear with what i intended to say. When i meant "humane morality" i meant the human mind. Forget the word humane. I just mean that human mind view on what is right and wrong; hence morality.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Horrible.

My comment never intended to be an argument.Really? Whether or not you click "support" or "dispute" on this site, the top of the white box that you type in will say "write your argument". Everything you type should be regarded as an argument. Furthermore, any claim made by a person in a debate should be supported by argument/s. If you make unasserted claims in a DEBATE, your opposition has every right to challenge you.Im not very clear with what i intended to say.You're ambiguous with nearly everything that you say.When i meant "humane morality" i meant the human mind.Which are two completely different concepts. Furthermore, since I have started studying philosophy professionally, I have not encountered any philosopher in history, be it religious or non-religious, Eastern or Western, ever use the term "humane morality". Maybe that's because you aren't a philosopher and you can never claim to be a philosopher.I just mean that human mind view on what is right and wrong; hence morality.Are you saying that morality equals the human mind view on what is right and wrong?
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Funny.

Are you saying that morality equals the human mind view on what is right and wrong?Yes. Morality for the sane person tells what is right and wrong according to all human kind.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Horrible.

Morality for the sane person tells what is right and wrong according to all human kind.By your definition, your entire argument becomes invalid. You said that it is not wrong "outside of morality". But since morality is the "human mind's view on what is right and wrong", when you say that something is "not wrong", you are making a judgement based on morality already! Therefore, it is illogical to say that "outside of morality" it is not wrong because any judgement of right or wrong would depend on the human mind and morality by your definition!
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Funny.

How are we supposed to hold ourselves to a higher standard than our enemies if we so freely commit deplorable acts?To which acts are you referring?How are we any better than our enemies?We (and I use this term very generally, as do you) kill, just as they kill. Is there really any difference? Sure, the intended victims may be different, but killing is killing.This is disgusting. How is urinating on a dead body any worse than causing a body to be dead in the first place?
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Horrible.

To which acts are you referringHe meant the urination on the dead bodies. How is urination on a dead body any worse than causing a body to be dead in the first place?It doesn't but this is really percpetional. I personally would find it more disrespectful if the killer of my friend urinated on my friend's body than the fact that the killer killed my friend. It is morality, i believe, that tells me it is a GREAT disrespect. If a lot of people would disagree with me on this, then i am wrong. Im assuming that my morality is no different than a sane's person morality.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Funny.

He meant the urination on the dead bodies.I am well aware of that.I personally would find it more disrespectful if the killer of my friend urinated on my friend's body than the fact that the killer killed my friend. How little you must care for your friend. Is his life not of greater value than his body's dignity?It is morality, i believe, that tells me it is a GREAT disrespect.A greater disrespect that killing one?If a lot of people would disagree with me on this, then i am wrong. 7,000,000,000 people can be wrong more easily than you may think.Im assuming that my morality is no different than a sane's person morality.Morality is entirely subjective; you have developed your moral sense over the course of your life primarily due to ethnic, cultural, and religious traditions, they are not transcendent.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Horrible.

To which acts are you referring?I reject the notion you are insinuating.We (and I use this term very generally, as do you) kill, just as they kill. Is there really any difference?In the acts themselves, no.Sure, the intended victims may be different, but killing is killing.At a superficial level, yes.How is urinating on a dead body any worse than causing a body to be dead in the first place?It has to do with standards at which we (US armed forces) purport to conduct ourselves. Whether or not these standards are warranted (what you are arguing) is irrelevant to their existence. One can't merely obey the laws they agree with.We claim to be civilized, both our society and our military. Urinating on the dead is not the action of a civilized society.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Horrible.

Totally agree. I'm surprised to see how many people think it's funny.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Horrible.

That is definitely bad, and I am certainly not trying to justify them when I say this, but it is kind of understandable. The Taliban are trying to terrorize and destroy destroy our country, the very thing these soldiers are sacrificing their lives for. And then after watching their their fellow soldiers and friends being slaughtered, and sometimes even tortured by these people, I can certainly see their anger and disdain towards these people. Again, i am not saying what they did is acceptably, I am merely pointing out that I can understand their bitterness.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Funny.

"The Taliban are trying to terrorize and destroy destroy our country"Not true, the Taliban have never done anything to terrorise your country, they also had no desire to destroy your country."the very thing these soldiers are sacrificing their lives for."The US army aren't fighting for anyones freedom or safety, history will record that as the single biggest falsehood ever told."And then after watching their their fellow soldiers and friends being slaughtered,"Get over yourself, you're in their country, try to imagine the situation reversed, and then please try to realise how stupid you sound."and sometimes even tortured by these people,"Actually the US are doing far more torturing these days than anyone else, I can assure you."I can certainly see their anger and disdain towards these people."Ya, of course, its completely justified."I am merely pointing out that I can understand their bitterness."No, you're trying to justify it, unfortunately for you anyone with a brain can see through this sentimental bullshit, and I really mean it when I say BULLSHIT, cause that's exactly what is.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Horrible.

The US army aren't fighting for anyones freedom or safety, history will record that as the single biggest falsehood ever told.WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!! THE US ARMY IS NOT FIGHTING FOR ANYONE'S FREEDOM AND SAFETY?!?!?!?! What the heck? Are you even from America? I know plenty of people who have lost limbs, friends and relatives, because they fought for our safety. That statement alone proves how little you know. Go look up the civil war or somethin then come back and tell me how they don't fight for anyone's freedom.Get over yourself, you're in their country, try to imagine the situation reversed, and then please try to realise how stupid you sound.Ok lets imagine the situation reversed. So now they are slaughtering our soldiers AND citizens. "After the attacks of September 11, 2001 the Taliban were overthrown by Operation Enduring Freedom. Later it regrouped as an insurgency movement to fight the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan (established in late 2001) and the NATO-led International Security Assistance Force (ISAF). They use terrorism as a specific tactic to further their ideological and political goals. According to the United Nations, the Taliban and their allies were responsible for 75% of civilian casualties in 2010 and 80% in 2011. Today the Taliban operate in Afghanistan and northwest Pakistan. It is believed one of their current major headquarters is near Quetta in Pakistan."http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TalibanYa, of course, its completely justified.Oh really??? Well I guess that's just your opinion. Because if you read my argument, that's exactly what i said its NOT.No, you're trying to justify it, unfortunately for you anyone with a brain can see through this sentimental bullshit, and I really mean it when I say BULLSHIT, cause that's exactly what is.No, there is a reason i tagged my argument as horrible, unlike you, who tagged it as funny.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Funny.

"I know plenty of people who have lost limbs, friends and relatives, because they fought for our safety."I can tell this is going to be a pointless excercise, but what the hell."That statement alone proves how little you know."If you say so."Go look up the civil war or somethin then come back and tell me how they don't fight for anyone's freedom."So you think your countries imperialistic incursions in Afghanistan and Iraq were to protect your safety?"So now they are slaughtering our soldiers AND citizens."Are you saying the Taliban had something to do with 9/11?"the Islamic Republic of Afghanistan"Please."They use terrorism as a specific tactic to further their ideological and political goals."The US or the Taliban, oh sorry, I forgot you people don't consider it terrorism when you do it."Today the Taliban operate in Afghanistan and northwest Pakistan. It is believed one of their current major headquarters is near Quetta in Pakistan."What exactly do you think you are proving?"No, there is a reason i tagged my argument as horrible, unlike you, who tagged it as funny."You think I care about tags, I don't think I ever check one since I started posting on this site, I care about opinions, and yours is quite transparent.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Horrible.

I can tell this is going to be a pointless excercise, but what the hell.This is what people say when they have nothing else to say.Are you saying the Taliban had something to do with 9/11? What exactly do you think you are proving?This was an article from Wikipedia, and i posted the whole thing instead of only the part i wanted, which was in italics so you wouldn't say im taking it out of context. I just thought you'd catch on quicker. There is a reason i put it in quotes.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Funny.

"This is what people say when they have nothing else to say,"Don't worry, I've got plenty to say, I just doubt you'll listen to any of it."This was an article from Wikipedia,"Yes, I know."and i posted the whole thing instead of only the part i wanted"I read it, I'm telling you I don't see it's relevance."which was in italics so you wouldn't say im taking it out of context."Taking what out context?"I just thought you'd catch on quicker."Nope, I'm a bit slow as you can tell, what with me messing up my tags, and not understanding the relevance of a wikipedia quote."There is a reason i put it in quotes."There's also a reason you beleive what you do, it's called nationalism, and nationalism in the US is now so rabid, so propagandised, that it has become (if it wasn't already) an ideology.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Horrible.

Yes, I know.If you know, then why did you ask if I thought the Taliban had to do with 9-11? That part was clearly NOT in italics, so if that is what it really meant, that is the opinion of the articles author, not mine.Taking what out context?This They use terrorism as a specific tactic to further their ideological and political goals. According to the United Nations, the Taliban and their allies were responsible for 75% of civilian casualties in 2010 and 80% in 2011.This the part in italics. Who is they? The Taliban, and i posted the whole thing so you would know who i was talking about, and not say i was taking that^^^ out of context.There's also a reason you beleive what you do, it's called nationalism, and nationalism in the US is now so rabid, so propagandised, that it has become (if it wasn't already) an ideology.I don't even get what this has to do with anything.I gotta go, so just because i don't instantaneously reply, it doesn't mean i have no more to say.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Funny.

"If you know, then why did you ask if I thought the Taliban had to do with 9-11?"I asked the question to see how misinformed you are, I am acutely aware that much of the US population beleives that the taliban or Saddam Hussein or the communists had something to do with 9/11 simply because they listen to the garbage spewed out in their television screens. "That part was clearly NOT in italics, so if that is what it really meant,"When you said:"So now they are slaughtering our soldiers AND citizens", I assumed you were reffering to 9/11, as if that had already been the case."This...This the part in italics. Who is they? The Taliban, and i posted the whole thing so you would know who i was talking about, and not say i was taking that^^^ out of context."I understand, what I'd like to know is what you think you are proving in posting that."I don't even get what this has to do with anything."It's the reason you think the US army is a force for good, even when they invade other peoples countries with no justification, kill hundreds of thousands of people all in order to rape, steal and pillage that countries resources, and secure a strategic foothold in a region of the world so far from your own.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Horrible.

I asked the question to see how misinformed you are, I am acutely aware that much of the US population beleives that the taliban or Saddam Hussein or the communists had something to do with 9/11 simply because they listen to the garbage spewed out in their television screens.Thank you for your thoughts on how misinformed i am, but it simply reveals how misinformed YOU are. I most certainly KNOW that 9-11 didnt have ANYTHING to do with communism or Saddam Hussein, and don't know many other people who do.When you said:"So now they are slaughtering our soldiers AND citizens", I assumed you were reffering to 9/11, as if that had already been the case.No, i was referring to your statement: "Get over yourself, you're in their country, try to imagine the situation reversed, and then please try to realise how stupid you sound." Let me dumb this down as much as possible for you. If the situation was reversed, they not only would be killing our soldiers, but innocent citizens also.I understand, what I'd like to know is what you think you are proving in posting that.I cannot prove anything to someone only willing to listen to themselves, but by posting this, i am CLEARLY showing that the Taliban aren't the perfect little angels just trying to protect their country that you portray them to be.It's the reason you think the US army is a force for good, even when they invade other peoples countries with no justification, kill hundreds of thousands of people all in order to rape, steal and pillage that countries resources, and secure a strategic foothold in a region of the world so far from your own.You dont have a mind reading degree. I never said that the U.S. army was a force for good, so you must be incorrectly assuming my thoughts, which was your first mistake. I said that the army wasn't 100% evil and nothing but a lie like you claimed them to be, and said the soldiers weren't all good, but most have good intentions, whether they are ultimately crapping up other countries for no reason or not.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Horrible.

And maybe you do think our government is corrupted, the US army is all a lie and they are not fighting for our freedom. I have no problem with that, as this is your opinion. But the soldiers in the army are just trying to help. So lets say the government only cares about power and money and is willing to invade other innocent countries to get it. But if this is the case our soldiers are tricked into helping, and they are just trying to protect us. They are under the impression that they are helping and they are trying to do good. I know this is not always the case, as some soldiers are corrupted also, only some. Hate on the government all you but these soldiers are fighting for freedom and to protect us so just shut the heck up. But this is not the case and the US army is not a lie thank you.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Funny.

"And maybe you do think our government is corrupted,"Ya, thats about accurate."the US army is all a lie and they are not fighting for our freedom."Yep, you don't even really have freedom anymore, but even if you did, the US armies actions are in no way defending it, not that they were ever intended to defend your fictitious freedom."I have no problem with that, as this is your opinion."What isn't opinion?"But the soldiers in the army are just trying to help."No, some of them join with noble motives, this is true, they beleive the lies just like you, but they don't help anyone, in fact if anything they get corrupted by a corrupt system.A US soldier who really did try to help is now being tortured by your government, Private Bradley Manning, his staged show trial is due shortly, many neo-con fanatics want him killed for exposing the documented history of brutality and instutionalised violence in the US armed forces, it is likley they'll just throw him in a hole for the remainder of his days. This is because he felt morally obligated to leak documents detailing US war crimes. He even went to his superiors, but was censored, he's a real american hero, and if you had a clue as to what you talking about, he's the one you'd respect."But if this is the case our soldiers are tricked into helping"Nobody is tricked into anything, we all the capacity to see through the bullshit, saying you were tricked is no excuse."I know this is not always the case, as some soldiers are corrupted also, only some."No, some soldiers are already corrupt i.e. they join simply because they want to travel half way across the world to kill some impoverished sand niggersThen there are the well meaning heavily indoctrinated ones who do as they're told, and come back feeling as though they served there country, these are ones that have been corrupted."Hate on the government all you but these soldiers are fighting for freedom and to protect us"None of these soldiers are fighting for freedom of any US citizen, the greatest threat to freedom america currently faces is internal, not external."so just shut the heck up."Would you like to censor me?"But this is not the case and the US army is not a lie thank you."That's it, keep telling yourself that, keep going over it in your head like a mantra.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: wrong

----WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!!!! THE US ARMY IS NOT FIGHTING FOR ANYONE'S FREEDOM AND SAFETY?!?!?!?! What the heck? Are you even from America? I know plenty of people who have lost limbs, friends and relatives, because they fought for our safety. That statement alone proves how little you know. Go look up the civil war or somethin then come back and tell me how they don't fight for anyone's freedom.Go on then, what are you talking about? Which war?Tell you what, I'll create the debate and maybe you can ask there.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Funny.

"The Taliban are trying to terrorize and destroy destroy our country"Not true, the Taliban have never done anything to terrorise your country, they also had no desire to destroy your country.They might now however. If I were Taliban, I sure as hell would.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Stupid

Oh dear lord, the Taliban have no desire to destroy our country. It is impossible to argue with you.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Funny.

No, prior to your invasion it definitely wasn't one of their stated politcal goals, not that they were a close ally of yours but their regime certainly didn't represent a threat, but hey it's impossible to argue with me, I insist on historical accuracy and take issue with all that shit you're fed on from your media.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: wrong

I think it is wrong because, personally, I think every person deserves respect in death. By urinating on the corpses it immediately takes that respect away. It doesn't matter if they were members of the Taliban, a person is a person at the end of the day. Also, what point does it serve? They weren't really gaining anything from it and so were most likely doing it to cause a fuss and/or seem superior which is just plain silly.
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Horrible.

This shows lack of professionalism. These soldiers jobs is to kill the Taliban, but respect towards your opponent is custom on the battlefield
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Funny.

have you ever been in combat? or near it? the respect thing you speak of is a nice idea but only a romantic notion especially these days when the media makes our Nemesis out to be evil and our training does not allow for that respect . I of course am not say what they did was OK but it never should of went down the way it did for them . the media is a plague in war time these days in so many ways
Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Funny.

Thank you for your service. I may or may not support the wars you fought in, but I support you. Every country needs people like you to help keep them safe. God bless. :)