Debate: Do You Support or Oppose the Death Penalty?
Side: I oppose it

The value of a person is a broad question?YesWell, can you provide explanations for this broad question?Burden of proof lies with you, you provide a value, I will dispute it as needed.The value of a person can differ from person to person? Well, what are the different things that can make a person of value?Intellect, philanthropy, economic benefits, etc.Personally everybody has value to some extent? What sort of value?Again, you can't pinpoint it.No, you have explained nothing.Yes I have, you just don't listenAnd just because someone is biologically a person doesn't mean they are mentally.Then tell me what exactly is the mental state of a person?Someone who is evil is only human in flesh and blood, their minds are sick and twisted and inhuman.No such thing as an evil person, only evil things. Additionally, define evil.Yes, that is what the whole point of the debate is about.No, the whole point of this debate is to decide whether or not there is good reason to kill criminals.Except I wouldn't call it "murder.That's because you see killing as okayI just had, it is you who hasn't.No, you answered my points with the same questions. That isn't answeringPsychopaths of course have no value as people and are expensiveBased on what? You've spent the whole debate asking for me to tell you what makes a person valuable - even though you've obviously got more reason to considering you are using it to make arguments. Also, tell me what you think a prison is used for.Why should we let manipulative murderers waste the systems money?Because that is the whole reason that that portion of the system was made.Why should we allow arrogant serial killers to mess with the system and live a life of luxury like a king?Life of luxury? You're kidding right? They're going to prison, please tell me how the fuck a prison is a "life of luxury like a king."That would be you making an affirmative claim, actually.My claim is that the death penalty is wrong. You are saying that it is right and should be implemented, you are making an affirmative claim. Ie, you have burden of proof.You can't prove that executing a murderer is harmful.Executing anyone is harmful, for morality's sake if nothing else. Additionally, you can't prove that it is beneficial (which is the first thing that needs to be proven)My position is that psychopaths have no value as people?Yes, that is what you have been arguingAnything wrong with that?It's a legitimate mental disorder and you are going in with the assumption that every one is an inherent monster regardless of their actions.Psychopaths are roughly the same thing as sociopaths.No, there are very big differences which you have yet to dispute.All people who end up committing murder are psychopathic, regardless.Really? So every soldier that has ever killed someone is a psychopath, regardless? What exactly is your definition of psychopathy? Because it seems to be extremely flawed.I actually didOkay, they are expensive and have no value. Both positions poorly defended and not backed up by any reasoning.Because they are worthless, because they have no empathy and because they are egotistic and parasitic.Nothing inherently egotistical with murder, it is bad but doesn't mean you are egotistic. As to the parasitic comment, that would be why we put them in prison. And lack of empathy doesn't inherently take away your worth as a person.They are a waste of money.How much money? Keeping people in prisons is not expensive, and that is what prisons are meant to be used for.Killing them is like killing flees.Because dehumanizing people hasn't caused anything bad, ever. coughholocaustslaverycrusadeshumantraffickingspanishinquisitioncough There is no proof to suggest that the death penalty is wrongWell sure, if you're a utilitarian.The death penalty is either wrong or right.Well it definitely is the first one. I do agree that it is only one or the other.You can't prove it is harmful and wrong unless you provide evidence.Okay so going by your arguments: people who murder are inherently psychopaths - all psychopaths must be killed - because killing cannot be proven to be wrong. You really don't see the problem here?Does the death penalty cause any harm? No.Except of course to the person who is executed, their family, their friends, and the justice system as a whole.So it's not unnecessary and wrong.You realize that you are using the same arguments the Nazis did to justify the holocaust?If psychopaths waste money then kill them. SimpleOkay then I guess that we should go ahead and kill you (for wasting money using the internet), me, every other person on the internet, every person who is buying or has bought something they didn't need, and every person taking part in a government peacekeeping effort. For starters, we can work out a more comprehensive list later.This debate has gone up to your head and out through the nose.At least my arguments are going through my head first.Cocky.Better cocky than a eugenic executioner.