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Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

I didn't really say anything good about this, I just gave my biased opinion, so I'll adjust that in this clarification.It's good (so far) how it was done. The couple didn't come in too stereotypicaly, too sexually, just as an normal gay couple would introducing their family. I also like how the family was open to it as  most families are in this day and age, but they were still surprised and didn't know how to react normally just like the average heterosexual family might.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

I support this. .
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

I cant wait to watch it
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

I'm tired of seing Heterosexual couples. There's a large population of Homosexuals in the world. American Tv portrays Homophobia by Non-Stop heterosexual couples. This Makes more sense to show how the world really is, even on Disney.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

The 2000 U.S. Census Bureau found that homosexual couples constitute less than 1% of American households. The Family Research Report says "around 2-3% of men, and 2% of women, are homosexual or bisexual."
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Guess what, 1% of 300 million people is still a whole lot of people.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Not if you look at America/ the world as a whole, I was just saying because most people would expect the number to be higher.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

No, 3 million is a lot no matter what. If you look at the rest of the world, there is way more than 3 million people. His statement was that there are a lot, not that there is a huge percentage.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

5% of 3 million is 150,000, which if you compare to 3 million is just a small number. I'm not saying that the 5% doesn't matter, again I was just putting it out there that there are less gay people than most people would think (including me)
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

5% of 3 million is 150,000, which if you compare to 3 million is just a small number.Awesome this is completely useless information, you're an idiot.I'm not saying that the 5% doesn't matterYeah you were, don't lie.again I was just putting it out there that there are less gay people than most people would think (including me)And 1 gay couple on this show, so a small number.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Wow you are a sucky debater. When you learn how to make real arguments and not just call people "names" like a two year-old does, reply back.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

You are an awesome debater. "Hey, you just said something, here is a worthless fact that has nothing to do with what you posted." Your posts don't accomplish anything.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

You're just as good by responding and continuing it.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Um, what are you doing here then. I had to tell him why I didn't like his comment, didn't I owe him that?
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

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Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

I hate you and I will have my revenge.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

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Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

Really please, learn to write an argument before you reply.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

Sure thing, I will make an argument like you:Actually, each state only has 1 governor and 2 senators.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Actually, his statement had something to do with the post he was replying to.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Yep, it pointed out the guy was correct in his statement that there are a lot of homosexuals, but it added nothing to the debate. I have only ever seen people bring up that fact to point out how insignificant the homosexual population is.Notice I didn't get mad at him until he started doing random math, though.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Notice I didn't get mad at him until he started doing random math, though.Grr, I hate random math }:{
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

Dude, they guy wasn't even criticizing it, he was merely saying the number is not as high as many people think. What's with the hostility?
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

That isn't remotely relevant to the debate in any way. He literally said a stupid statement. 1% of 300 million is a large number. His response to me was that it isn't a large number if you look at the rest of the world. Guess what, it is still a big number. Then, he took 5% of 3 million. What am I supposed to do with 5% of 3 million? That has even less to do with the debate than the 1% number he posted.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

The 2000 U.S. Census Bureau found that homosexual couples constitute less than 1% of American households. The Family Research Report says "around 2-3% of men, and 2% of women, are homosexual or bisexual."So you didn't even read what I said? 2-3% of men 2% of women, I used the 3% in case you can't add 2+3= 5I could use the 1% but that would be an even smaller number. Read before you reply, I'm glad I could teach you this lesson.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

That's not how percentages work. 2% of half the population is 1% of the total population. Men and woman represent half of the population each. Therefore a 2-3% figure and a 2% figure would be ~2.25% of the total population. Next, where did you get the 3,000,000 number. That was my calculation. That was the number of gay people in America since the overall population is 300 million. And, that was just using the low 1% number. So, it is closer to 6 million. Look, no insults from me.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

This from the same company that has "innocently" slipped pornographic images into kids movies for decades... well, I for one am shocked... LOL
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Conservatives used to be upset about inter-racial couples on tv, they are always decades behind.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

There is nothing wrong at all with the clip. For anyone who didn't watch it, it wen't a bit like this:"Hi, this is Tayla(I think?)'s other mom(I'll use the American spelling seems the show is American).""Oh... Tayla has two moms." That's it.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Goofy is Gay so why not have the first Gay couple on the Disney Channel? Disney is reaching out to educate the young that Gay is O.K.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

This is shocking. Next thing you know they're going to have divorced parents who get remarried, children getting a time out instead of getting beaten with a rod, women marrying the person they love instead of being sold to the highest bidder, women telling men what to do, etc. Shame on Disney channel. What is this world coming too. We should go picket their headquarters with signs saying things like, "Women, shut your pie hole and listen to your man" and "show your kids you love them by beating their ass". Who's with me? ;)
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

You are freaking awesome. ;)
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

I dont see whats objectively wrong with any of this. These were laws they had to follow. I don't see anything wrong.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

I never said it was objectively wrong. You and I have already had the whole objective morality conversation at least 3 times and we both agree that morality is subjective. However, my subjective opinion and the opinion of the most civilized societies in the world is that those things are wrong, and I bet your subjective opinion is that those things are wrong as well since I don't think you would appreciate it if your dad sold you to some guy as a slave. Regardless, that's not the point I was trying to make with my post. The point of it is to show how Christians selectively target gays and ignore all the other parts of their Bible. Also, since we're on the topic of objective morality, my original argument also shows that Christians who claim morality is objective don't actually believe it, because most of them believe those things I mentioned are wrong despite the fact that their supposed source of objective morality says the contrary.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

The point of it is to show how Christians selectively target gays and ignore all the other parts of their Bible.I dont agree since there are Christians that support gays. There are gay churches. Saying that just shows me the bias you hold. I don't think you would appreciate it if your dad sold you to some guy as a slave.Law is law.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

I didn't say all Christians. I think my statement makes it pretty clear that I'm referring to the ones who target gays.Law is lawThere was no law saying you have to sell your daughter as a slave, and just because something is a law doesn't make it right. There have been may ridiculous laws throughout the years.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

I didn't say all Christians. I think my statement makes it pretty clear that I'm referring to the ones who target gays.Then be more specific. You just said Christians. You didn't say "most" or "some". You just said Christians. There was no law saying you have to sell your daughter as a slave, and just because something is a law doesn't make it right. There have been may ridiculous laws throughout the years.I thought we agreed that morality is subjective? Also there was an obvious law in place otherwise it wouldn't be there. Whether it be transcendent or worldly. Saying a law is ridiculous is answering from your subjective interpretation.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

You didn't say "most" or "some". You just said Christians.Fair enough, I probably should have said "some Christians" but since it's common knowledge that not all Christians are anti-gay clarification seemed unnecessary.I thought we agreed that morality is subjective?We did, which should tell you that when I'm speaking about right and wrong I'm referring to my subjective opinion on it.Also there was an obvious law in place otherwise it wouldn't be there.The law was about the treatment of sold daughters. It wasn't telling you that you have to sell your daughter.Saying a law is ridiculous is answering from your subjective interpretation.Correct, but just because it's subjective doesn't make it completely irrelevant. Laws change because when we evaluate the reasoning behind them we sometimes see that there was no good justification for them. For example, in Hood River Oregon it's illegal to Juggle without a license.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Correct, but just because it's subjective doesn't make it completely irrelevant.I never said is was irrelevant. The law was about the treatment of sold daughters. It wasn't telling you that you have to sell your daughter.Then what's the problem with it?
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

I never said is was irrelevant.It sounded to me like that was what you were implying. Then what's the problem with it?It says that selling your daughter as a lifetime slave is okay.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

It says that selling your daughter as a lifetime slave is okay.The culture at the time believed that this was moral. So in the biblical sense it was a moral and normal thing to do.  It sounded to me like that was what you were implyingNah. Its perfectly relevant.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

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Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

I agree with you man, like whats this world coming to when I no longer can beat my slave or kill my neighbor for working on the Sabbath, such a sad, sad world we live in.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

It's not that I want to shelter the kids, I just think they're too young to fully understand the concept of homosexuality, or even sexuality in general. When they get a bit older, perhaps, but eh. Depends on the child too I guess; I keep forgetting that gay couples adopt, so this wouldn't exactly be shocking for those kids. Eh.I guess it really depends: How young is 'too young'?
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

It's not that I want to shelter the kids, I just think they're too young to fully understand the concept of homosexuality, or even sexuality in general. So should we stop having heterosexuals on T.V. since it would be to mature for them? If kids can understand a man and woman being in love, and being in a romantic relationship, I don't see how making it a woman and a woman, or a man and a man, makes that anymore difficult. Perhaps, since homosexuality goes against the status quo, and is seen as "abnormal" to society, then they may be a little socialized to be wierded out by it, but that would only mean that they need to be desensitied to it, as it wouldn't be naturally that way. I don't see why we should treat homosexuality on the telly, and different than heterosexuality. It's not like they are going to have sex on T.V. probably be displayed with as much decency as heterosexual couples are.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

Guy on guy action might be too graphic for a little kid, lol.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

Disney Channel shouldn't have gay couples in it. Most of the audience is children and they shouldn't be exposed to this. This just disgusts and sickens me on what people are allowing theses days to support what is wrong.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Kids are exposed to couples all the time on television, why is it so bad that one of them is gay? I think it's good for kids to see this actually, they can see that homosexual couples are just like everyone else and not grow up to be homophobic snobs. Stop patting yourself on the back because you find a certain gender to be attractive and the other not to be, it's just sexuality, people should be defined by their achievements and actions, not sexuality. You don't even have a religious claim against gays because Christians (the few that read the bible anyway) interpret the bible subjectively and ignore most of it's rules.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Did you see the clip? They aren't kissing or mounting each other, they're just established as being together.How are kids not ready for that? Gay people do exist, kids are going to see them.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

Did you see the clip? They aren't kissing or mounting each other, they're just established as being together.I don't need to see the clip. It isn't worth my time to be honest. And you aren't worth my time as well. How are kids not ready for that? Gay people do exist, kids are going to see them.Kids shouldn't be learning about gay people. They should be learning about a proper couple is which is male and female.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

I don't need to see the clip. It isn't worth my time to be honest. And you aren't worth my time as well.Ut-oh Srom reached the grumpy teenager stage.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Angsty Scrom, telling people they aren't worth his time when he knows he is wrong. Soon he'll start calling everyone a phony and want to run away and become a deaf hermit.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Oh, and you can hide your children away from the truth only for so long. Today it's Disney that's realizing that gay people do exist, tomorrow it's cartoon network, then before long gay people will be as common an occurrence on television as they are in the very world we live it.You feel that pressure? That's the walls of your myopic views and biased opinions closing in on you. Better expand your horizons before they crush you.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

Oh, and you can hide your children away from the truth only for so long. Today it's Disney that's realizing that gay people do exist, tomorrow it's cartoon network, then before long gay people will be as common an occurrence on television as they are in the very world we live it.I know that gay people exist and I will tell my kids the truth about what why there are a lot of theses things happening. Teach them like how my parents taught me and bring them up to be Christians if God wants them to. You feel that pressure? That's the walls of your myopic views and biased opinions closing in on you. Better expand your horizons before they crush you.What pressure? I don't feel any pressure. Those aren't my views. It's someone else's views that they established. I am just agreeing and supporting those views because I am not the one who came up with theses views. I am not changing my view at all. What's sin in God's eyes will always be sin no matter what you or anybody else says if it's not.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

So if you know they exist, why should they not be on a television show? It seems like it'd be a quicker way for you to infect your children's minds with lies. Since as soon as they see the gay couple you can tell them how that couple will burn in hell. I'm sure that thought is so much worse to a child's mind than the prospect of of gays being natural.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

It's wrong because when they put gay couples on TV that means that they are supporting the view that gay marriage is okay when in reality it isn't. I am not going to infect my children with lies at all. (I don't have any children, only a teenager)I am going to tell them the truth about why it's wrong and what is proper which started from the very beginning when God made male and female which is proper.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

First, I'd like to address this point."only a teenager"I surely hope that these views you have are just due to that, and that when you mature a bit you'll see things more clearly.Now to address your arguing points.You said:"It's wrong because when they put gay couples on TV that means that they are supporting the view that gay marriage is okay when in reality it isn't."This is a purely theological standpoint, and basis for deciding what's fair for children. I assume you also believe they should not show any one of a religion other than Christianity on television. I sincerely hope I don't have to explain to you how this is hypocritical.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

It is not a sin to be gay. .
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

It's a sin to be a homosexual.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

This is where Christianity gets dangerous. You can't say why being gay is wrong in terms of harm caused etc but rather all you can say is that a book tells you its wrong. Are Christians so morally bankrupt that they cant justify their morality more than to say 'God told me so'? You're happy discriminating and causing harm to a whole subset of society based on what you perceive to be God's word?
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Thank you Atrag. I completely agree. In the times of Galileo, the church spread another lie: that the earth was the center of everything. When Galileo uncovered proof otherwise, he was persecuted. He was put on lifetime house arrest for life I think. A perfect example of the no true Scotsman fallacy in action.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

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Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

No it isn't. People do not choose to be gay so it logicly cant be a sin.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

Yes, it is a sin and people do choose to be gay. Let's look at Romans 1:26-27 "Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural sexual relations for unnatural ones. 27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed shameful acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error."In this verse it says that women and men abandoned natural sexual relations with one another and exchanged them with lust for one another and unnatural relations. Notice the word exchange in the verse? That means they changed from being a heterosexual into a homosexual. Paul is basically saying right there that it's a choice to become gay.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

No. It cannot be a sin when people do not choose to be gay or bi. I did not choose to be bisexual. I would be straight if I had any choice at all. Something cannot logically be a sin when it is not chosen.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

The verse speaks for itself what Paul wrote. I am going with what God said. So ultimately you chose to be bisexual.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

No I dont. I do not choose who I am attracted to. That is a biased statement not backed up by facts.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

Do you believe in Satan? If so, then you understand that he is the great tempter. No, you do not choose who you're "attracted" to. However, that's because Satan knows he has a hold on you in that area. And when he has a hold on you, well, he's gonna try as hard as he can. We all are tempted, and it's our choice whether or not to give in. Now, I'm not saying I'm holier than you. No, I'm tempted a bunch and as much as I hate it, I've sinned before.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Do you brainwash your children to be argument refusing religious zealots, like you?
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

I don't have any children.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

You're coming off as hostile, but I guess that's to be expected. Considering your kind specialize in creating a following by force or by naivety.So I already expected you to spout more drivel, or just ignore me all together like you've continually done since I've seen your first argument.