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Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
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their the instruments to make us but God is the one who created usCare to show proof of this?absolutely no!So sure of yourself
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yeah,im quite sure about it.well then,can you choose if you want a baby boy or girl?
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Did you not follow the link ?
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Why are you talking about gender? The fact is that parents are the ones that give life. So why are you talking about gender, it's not like the gender determines if it's alive or not.
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So what? You are born because of your parents. So what if they can't choose the gender of the baby, it's still a living being created by the parents. It's not like the gender of a baby determines if it's alive or not.
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fail lol. .
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What super-god gave god life? And, indeed, what super-super-god gave super-god life so god could give us life?
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OK, this is ignorant even for a fanatic religious. Who gave we all the life were our parents. They made sex. One of our father's spermatozoon penetrated in one of our mother's ovules. The DNA was combined and we were created. The sex of the baby is determined by the combination of DNAs. No God found.
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This is part of a lecture I got from Schroeder " if it is the laws of nature and not God that produce the universe, then we have a problem because many of the theories which would allow quantum tunneling, or quantum fluctuation in a totally abstract not peculiar potential field, to compress itself and become a universe. Many aspects of that theory, although possibly not all, but many aspects of that theory, require the universe that is created to be a closed universe. That is, space will be curved to close back on itself. Not like a balloon physically, but that space itself curves back in on itself. That means a super heavy universe. All of the data imply at the moment that the universe is not super heavy, in fact it lacks in the physical region, at least a fact by a factor of 10, the amount of mass required to produce this universe. So that makes a problem if it is indeed the laws of nature, it may require some other understanding then quantum tunneling."
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Gerald Scroeder argues from incredulity, and arrogance, he may be a very intelligent man, but anyone that tries to mesh scientific ideas with the Torah or Bible, just to make them fit, needs to go and read about what science is. I'm actually sick of people using science as an alternative to religion, or as a means to either disprove or prove a God exists. The point of science is discovery, the word itself means knowledge, if a discovery is made, verified and peer reviewed and it happens to contradict religious teachings, well that's just tough doo-doo. Trying to force science to fit pre-existing ideas, simply because you don't like what it is telling you, is injurious to progress. The Gap finding and filling ethos of men like this is a testament to the sort of dark age thinking regression that seems to be permeating. If you don't understand something, don't go looking for catch all gap fillers, Schroeder is lucky enough to be intelligent and has the great opportunity of studying in this field, yet he shits while standing on the shoulders of the Giants that provided him with the knowledge he now bends. I know this is more of a rant than an argument, and for that I apologize, it just irks me when people do this sort of thing.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
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You'd blow a gasket if you ever visited the Creation Museums in the Bible belt.
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If I'm ever around that way I'll swing by, and fly into a prize hissy fit, spitting chunks of half eaten bagel into the museum curator's face, while simultaneously defecating on their monuments.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
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you must be referring to the 6 days biblical clock idea. Well either way, this is a different lecture he gave, not one biblical or Torah verse. So what do you think of his argument against the laws of nature?
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
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Are you referring to the "fine tuning" argument ?
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no, here he says that if quantum mechanics produced the universe then it would create a closed universe , but theuniverse is not closed and he syas that this is a problem
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
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The term closed universe, what really is he stating by this, he's known for inaccurate use of science, and I think this is one of those examples. Quantum mechanics does not produce anything, it is a model that explains systems and energy changes in terms of quanta, quantum tunneling is not incompatible, it's just not fully understood with intuition, one just has to accept that the figures don't lie. Quantum mechanics, makes claims that are difficult to take sometimes, because they defy what we know intuitively from our experience of the mechanical world. There is no full explanation of the start of the universe and none such to explain the end, what is certain though is that using something like quantum tunneling because it seems on the face of it to defy logic, one simply has to remember Heisenberg and his uncertainty principle.
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The Heisenberg uncertainty principle does not explain the start of the universe.....
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I didn't say it did, but definition of activity at the level particles is difficult because of uncertainty, but it and wave-particle duality are central to an understanding of quantum tunneling. Furthermore touting physical laws regarding the behavior of anything now can't account for events at the "singularity" as the known physical laws didn't exist at the time or not in their current form anyway.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
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There were gods and godesses. There were many gods. There were counsel of gods. There were sons of gods and godesses. There were angels, watchers and guardians, in the bible they were watchman. There were sons of gods as fallen angels. There are gods and there is one god, the chief ruler of all and the Lord of the command on earth as the Lord of the War. There were counsel of gods in heavens. There is one god:The King of the gods, the father of all the gods. The god appointed the sons of god (two angels who ruled the command on earth) the other god is the lord of the earth. Immanuel named Jesus was the son of god "The Lord of the Earth". Jesus suceeded on his mission to create peace on earth by sacrificing himself. He went comma on the cross and later the angels with the used of "emiter" raised him from half death and transformed back to life. The water that was given by the guard who kneeled and asked forgiveness to Jesus was not actually water, it was some sort of vineyard that paralyzed the body and numb so Jesus will fall in a deep asleep, the only way to be saved from permanent death and be taken by Hades. Did you noticed three of them were crucified but only two was cut off but Jesus was spare and did not cut off? The real God is the father of mankind, who created Adam and Eve, the creator of all the living on earth and heavens. He is the almighty god who send Jesus on earth. It was his own seed and spirit formed Jesus. With the success of Jesus mission on mankind he became the Kings of all Kings, our savior and our Lord of the Earth. Jesus is the brotherhood of all mankind. Jesus is the son of god; the Lord of the earth and therefore he is god. Mankind is also god higher than the angels but as a brotherhood only and servants our role to Jesus whom our king and son of god in the name of Jesus our saviour.
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I believe in God because I just can't simply comprehend the fact that the world was made from a big bang. How can nothing create something? It is like a watch popping in thin air! Not true. There is a Godthat has made us all
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I agree. The world can't be made or sprang up from nothing. If something was created there has to be someone who was the creator to create the world.
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Who made god? You like to use logic when it suits you, and if it's so irrational that something can come from nothing, how can god (something) have spontaneously sprung into existence? Certainly god is more complex than this universe, and if complexity implies creation then something even more complex must've made god. The notion that because something exists it must have a creator leads us down a long line of god creating us, and a god creating our god, and a god creating the god the created our god, yet another god that created that god, and so on. Inability to comprehend is not a reason to put faith in magic. Im not sure if I believe all the notions asserted in the big bang theory, and I am certainly not scientifically literate enough to truly understand it, and as such I dont put any blind faith in the idea. It's a theory.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
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The idea that the universe was created ex nihilo (from nothing) is inherent in most religious ideologies, mainly in ancient Greek mythology. The evidence for the Big Bang is far more convincing than the existence of any kind of God, gods or imaginary friends.. whatever you want to call them. The evidence lies in the ratio of hydrogen to helium 76:24, microwave radiation and red shift (the idea that the universe is continually expanding). About three minutes after the Big Bang, nucleosynthesis began which is very important because it allowed the temperrature of the universe and its density to decrease below that which is required for nuclear fusionn. It encompassed the entire universe lasting about seventeen minutes in totaland most of all it prevented the heavier elements (like beryllium) from coming to life whilst simultaneously allowing unburned light elements to exist unhindered (such as deuterium). Having said that, the Big Bang is after all, still only a theory but like I said, it is more believable than the existence of a man in the sky.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
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Hm... Tell me, who created God? Or He just popped out of nothing, just like you said that is impossible to happen?
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
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Just because you don't agree with one theory doesn't mean that you won't like any others. I subscribe to the cyclical bigbang-bigcrunch theory, and infinite time. It makes sense to me.
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Who created God, I quote "how can nothing create something"?
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I believe that there is a force that exists outside of our four dimensions that created our existence. I do not believe that the physics of the 4 dimensional world can explain the spontaneous creation of the universe.This "God," however, cannot be the immoral God of the Bible or the Quran. There is no evidence of his direct intervention within our lives either, so for all intensive purposes he doesn't "exist" in a manner of speaking, but all evidence I have seen indicates that he must.
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In reality there are no dimension. They are made up by humans for humans to make our lives easier, to give existence some kind of explanation.There are particles, energies, forces and CHANGE between them. What we see, hear, or sense in any manner is basically that change.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
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How can you be sure there is no other dimension? ever since dimensions were added, the laws of physics have fit in beautifully.
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I use the term dimension, you choose to ascribe reality other terms. If you'd like me to rephrase using your terms then here you go:I believe that the evidence shows that the existence of particles, energies, forces and change between them cannot have come to exist without some external unknown. I believe that the creation of something so complex requires intent, so therefore I believe there is evidence for a creator or God.Evidence also shows that he doesn't involve himself in our existence other than the creation and that he doesn't listen to prayers, doesn't require worship, doesn't have a hell to send us to, and basically doesn't matter.
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Evidence also shows that he doesn't involve himself in our existence other than the creation and that he doesn't listen to prayers, doesn't require worship, doesn't have a hell to send us to, and basically doesn't matter.I take you mean by evidence that people are never answered, and no one is sent to nowhere (if it's lights out, it's lights out). That is also the evidence that he doesn't exist.And why he, why not it? Or she?
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No, it isn't evidence that he/she/it doesn't exist, it is evidence that he/she/it doesn't get involved. Inaction is a subset of nonexistence and all the evidence provides is a sign of inaction, not the greater nonexistence. I have already provided my reason and evidence for believing there is a God, but to clarify: the existent systems of matter and energy indicate that neither can create something from nothingness (conservation of mass and energy) and the fact is that we have something that from what we can see, nothingness was before it. That requires an act of something that was not matter or energy, and to me also presupposes a deliberate action. It could be a programmer and we are his VR people or it could be an alien or a God, but it seems to be borne out by the evidence.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
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No, it isn't evidence that he/she/it doesn't exist, it is evidence that he/she/it doesn't get involved.You haven't provided any evidence of its existence, neither can you because there is no evidence to its existence.People hoping for action from something that will never provide it (most probably since it does not exist) hints at lunacy.Inaction is a subset of nonexistence and all the evidence provides is a sign of inaction, not the greater nonexistence.Nonexistence is nonexistence. If something doesn't exist, it does not exist, there are no different levels to it. Since there is no action by it and since there is no proof to its existence then it is far more logical and reasonable to consider it not existing.the existent systems of matter and energy indicate that neither can create something from nothingnessThey all came from something. Perhaps a different state at which they are now, or some energy collided with others thus creating a reaction that caused our universe. There really is no proof to any of it and I doubt there ever will be, not in the extent of human existence (we aren't exactly working toward our long-term survival). And once our universe ends it might change to a different state again.nothingness was before itHow do you know that?but it seems to be borne out by the evidenceThere is no actual evidence.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
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The evidence I provide are the laws of thermodynamics and the big bang theory.They show that matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed, only transferred from one state to the other. They show that the universe had a beginning.People hoping for action from something that will never provide it (most probably since it does not exist) hints at lunacy.I didn't say I hoped for any action whatsoever. Ad hominems are hints of weak minds.Nonexistence is nonexistence. TrueIf something doesn't exist, it does not exist, there are no different levels to it.Also trueLet me clarify what I meant. The perception of inaction is a subset of the proof towards non-existence, and cannot be used in and of itself as proof of non-existence because there are counterexamples.Since there is no action by it and since there is no proof to its existence then it is far more logical and reasonable to consider it not existing.No, since there is no action by it it is reasonable to consider it does not act. There is, however, evidence of its existence and a single original act, the creation."They all came from something." Science has provided zero theories about how or what that have withstood any scrutiny whatsoever. You want to make the "something" be more "stuff" and I want to make the "something" be "an intelligent being."Also, according to probability theory the fact is that we are far more likely to be constructs within a virtual reality system than actually be living in reality, so that means we have a creator (a programmer) that wrote the program and started us on our VR world.Do any amount of study about the big bang and the consensus is that there was nothing before it.The evidence is that there is no rules for creation within the system, and evidence that the system was created. The complexity of the system and its apparent purpose suggests intelligence in that creation. Does it prove that there is a God? I leave that to you, for me, it does.
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
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They show that matter and energy cannot be created nor destroyed, only transferred from one state to the other. They show that the universe had a beginning.To me it shows that our universe's current state had a beginning. What was the previous state, if there was one, is not known and probably never will.There is, however, evidence of its existence and a single original act, the creation.There is no evidence of its existence and creation. Thoughts are not exactly evidence. We can come up with all kinds of concepts and stories. Everything we have come up with was originally an idea, until it was proven true or false.I want to make the "something" be "an intelligent being."So the intelligent being formed some preexisting energy into our universe? I suppose it could be possible, but there is no evidence.Do any amount of study about the big bang and the consensus is that there was nothing before it.Nothing our equipment can detect, perhaps. Nothing we can perceive from our universe, our, sort of, "frequency".The evidence is that there is no rules for creation within the system, and evidence that the system was created. The complexity of the system and its apparent purpose suggests intelligence in that creation.It could simply have been a natural occurrence, an accident. Like a rock colliding with Earth. Something that just happened.And what would that purpose be?
Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
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To me, it's evidence of creation, to you it's not, as I said before. You believe that it is rational to suggest that a system which has zero methods for explaining its coming into being just simply "did" whilst I believe that we have several examples of systems being created by a being outside that system that correspond to the concept of God (think VR).
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You believe that it is rational to suggest that a system which has zero methods for explaining its coming into being just simply "did"I never said anything like that. Everything has methods for explaining and if doesn't it is easy to come up with some, but that does not mean they are real or that they will ever have any evidence supporting them.
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You wrote, "It could simply have been a natural occurrence, an accident. Like a rock colliding with Earth. Something that just happened."
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Oh, right... The "simply did" because it is just another explanation for something that has no evidence.
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That's almost similar to what I believe. I think there may be some genuine divine intervention in the bible, but it all sounds like they were demon deities to me. Jesus seemed to speak about a buddhic deity and Christians today talk about a trinity deity. It's confusing.
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I believe in God because he is the almighty. It is with him that all things are possible. It is a sin called contentment to not believe in God. There is indisputable video evidence that God and Jesus exist. There is proof that God and Jesus exist because of miracles.
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Following your logic...If another group / sacred text claims miracles to have happened then that proves the existence of their gods as well, right?And video evidence of them? Are you trolling?
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I definetely believe in God because I have been raised in such conditions. God always helps me in difficult situations.
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Yeah, God is super because he gave life? Well i guess hes also great, because he gave death. Oh what a wonderful being. SARCASM Jesus if you were born in a Islamic family, you wouldn't be coming out with this BULLSHIT what makes you think that YOUR god is the right one, there are loads of other religions all thinking that THEIR god is the real one. You're just like all those other ignorant morons.
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Actually we worship the same God as the Christians do.........................................