Debate: Are You As Sick of the Sexism on The Internet as I am?
Side: Very Amusing

Maybe, or maybe they were not reinforcing a restrictive social role at all, and just wanted her to shut up and would have said the same to a guy. The point is the immediate assumption. Unless you are there and a mind reader, you do not know whether the guy was simply tired of hearing her speak, or felt all women should have a dick in their mouth at all times.I will concede that, in any number of hypothetical situations, the remark may not have been sexist. But in the real world, how often do really you think someone will tell a man to shut up in this fashion? Compared to how often women are told to shut up in a similar way? Well I lived with one for 5 years, and I don't believe have ever been 6 months without a serious gf, so it's not as if I live in a bubble. I'm not sure what the point is, are you trying to say that girls really in general would not be offended if a guy was to talk to her the same way he talks to his male friends regardless of how well they know each other? Even if there are a couple girls out there who truly could "hang with the guys" or whatever in that sense, the vast majority of the time there is simply a difference in how a men and women communicate.I don't mean to imply any social impairment on your part but we tend to socialize more effectively within genders than between them. You relate very differently to your male friends than you do with your girlfriend, and your girlfriend relates very differently to her female friends than they do to you. One of the reasons a female could use normally offensive language towards another female is commiseration; they both understand the hostility such language can confer, and use it in situations that take the teeth out of it, so to speak. You cannot claim the same commiseration when it comes to sexism, as even though sexism towards males does exist, it has nowhere near the same presence or impact in your daily life. I do think girls and women should be accustomed to being addressed similarly to men, but I do not think sexist language is automatically a part of this arrangement. Even sexist remarks between men are still sexist against the feminine role, its just that when the target of these remarks is a man, you can't really hurt him with inapplicable insults. How many guys do you see at tupperware parties volunarily... I mean who are not creepily trying to get laid? Is that sexist that girls have these parties that guys generally can't stand? Maybe to stop being sexist girls should change the way they communicate at tupperware parties so males will find it a more amiable environment for them... This is a slippery slope to a retarded world.I am not sure what this has to do with it, as tupperware parties are not discriminatory anymore than Super Bowl parties are. Both genders are ostensibly welcome to either, but most men probably find tupperware as uninteresting as women find sports to be. If sexist language is being excessively used at either, then that is a different thing, but the concept of the event is not sexist in itself. This is not about different modes of communication, this is about the use of language that enforces sexist attitudes.Exactly, and at the same time neither should men be expected to change their behavior.I disagree. Men who display sexist views should be encouraged to change their behaviour. It seems to me you applied this idea of sexism to the debate Joe made about who fucks who's wife, dem v rep, whatever that was.I'm saying there was nothing sexist about it at all. I'm saying in that case, and in many, some women see sexism where it is not sexism, but just how some guys talk.  I understood that debate to be a joke so I did not participate, but the women in that debate were clearly referred to as resources with no autonomy or sexual choice. It most definitely was sexist.Your point seems to be that guys should not talk in such a manner. I'm saying that is you trying to change the way guys behave. You say women shouldn't have to change their behavior, and I agree, yet there is nothing in that debate that would force any woman anywhere to change their behavior.I do not believe it is appropriate to use prejudice language around a person whose reaction you cannot be certain of. Feel free to throw it around among friends, but absolutely expect a negative reaction when you use it in a public setting. I am saying women should not change their behaviour in order to please people who have sexist ideas about women.I am saying men (and women) who have the sexist ideas should change their behaviour. Not through censorship or bullying, but through understanding and the dispelling of ridiculous myths and gender roles.