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Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

This was exactly my thought as I read the prompt. I would much rather live in a society where science is not bound by the regulations of an oppressive (or repressive) religious majority. The other day, in fact, I was thinking if I became a billionaire, I would buy several islands and start a society somewhat like this. Although, it could be a little difficult to declare it sovereign.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

All you'd have to do is use your money and get the top scientists to make an army of robot soldiers and a series of WMDs.....Oh, wait, scratch that:):):)
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

Call it Rapture!
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

Separating everyone is never a good idea. Eventually one group would find some reason or other to get mad at the other group and then wars happen. Our best hope for peace as a planet is to find a middle ground, not to have various areas of different extremes.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

But if you don't separate them, you risk civil war ;)
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

If they were at the point when a civil war was on the way then a war would occur eventually no matter how far you spread them apart.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

Not necessarily. What if the civil war was the legals and the illegals? Get the illegals back across the border and you can avert a war :)
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

Without the theists who would we debate with about the mysteries of our world?
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

I suppose Rabbits would have similar views. .
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Small footnote

I see your point, but Atheists don't end wars. Religious people do =). Name an Atheist who has ended a war.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

Gorbachev was religious, and he ended the Cold War.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Where is the love

How many started them? One reason why we cannot name one is because there are never any Atheists in power.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

Hitler wasn't an atheist, but I agree with the sentiment of this debate.Mao Zedong, Vladimir Lenin, Castro, Marx, Stalin: they were some of the worst people in the history of the world, and yet they were atheists.And yet atheists claim that Christians are warlike !
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Small footnote

I support you on these things, however Christians are considered warlike as an artifact of the Crusades. In which they killed plenty of people (crusades are similar to jihad FYI). However that idea is outdated.This debate could very easily turn into a useless flamefest like most here on religion.Also I'm surprised you didn't use Machiavellian in your argument to describe those men.EDIT: What about Iran? The Iran-Iraq war was clearly a religious war.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

Do you know the cause of the Crusades? The Muslims were trying to conquer Europe - at the time they had taken Jerusalem - thus the Christians were trying to defend their land and their religion.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

What, and Islam isn't a religion? The fact remains that without religious goals, the crusades wouldn't have happened.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

JayAr was addressing Christianity in his post. I was continuing from there.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Small footnote

At which point once they drove back the Muslims they invaded their territory (and Jerusalem).
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

Makes one wonder, huh? Go figure ;)
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

You hit a jack pot of posts here Joe, is this your first over a hundred poster? =P
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

Who knows. I don't keep track of that. You can search here:http://jaded.createdebate.com/Here, I found one.http://jaded.createdebate.com/debate/show/Should_people_who_are_morally_agaisnt_abortions_be_forced_to_pay_for_those_who_want_one But there are others. ;)
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

All atheists that have been mass murderers (like the ones you mentioned) have all been communists, whereas religious murderers have come from nearly every major religion, and have supported a wide variety of of ideologies.Therefore, if you are an atheist, and not a communist then you're probably fairly peaceful.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

All atheists that have been mass murderers (like the ones you mentioned) have all been communists, whereas religious murderers have come from nearly every major religion, and have supported a wide variety of of ideologies.Therefore, if you are an atheist, and not a communist then you're probably fairly peaThe crimes perpetrated by Christians pales in the light of the crimes perpetrated by atheists.Name for me a few wars begun by Christians.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

(You know that you don't have to copy and paste my whole argument into yours, right? I mean I literally just wrote it, and it appears on top.)I find your first statement kind of funny because it, is both incorrect, and misses the point. As I just stated, the crimes committed by atheists weren't because of their atheism but because of their communist ideology.Name for me a few wars begun by Christians.Almost every war in western history, because for the past 1,000 years almost everyone in Europe (and later the Americas) has been Christian.But this isn't what you meant, right? You see I just did the same thing you did: I took all wars that Christians began, and then implied that Christianity was their cause. You obviously meant to say: "Name me a few wars begun because of Christianity."I would be happy to:The CrusadesThe first crusadeThe second crusadeThe third crusadeThe fourth crusadeThe albigensian crusadeThe fifth crusadeThe sixth crusadeThe seventh crusadeThe Eighth crusadeThe ninth crusadeThe Northern CrusadesThe numerous crusades against the TatarsThe Aragonese crusadeThe Alexandrian crusadeThe Hussite crusadeThe swedish crusadesThe European Wars of ReligionThe French Wars of ReligionThe first warThe second warThe third warThe fourth warThe fifth warThe sixth warThe seventh warThe war of the three HenrysThe war in BrittanyThe war with SpainWars of Religion in Germany and BohemiaThe Schmalkaldic WarsThe thirty years war (one of the worst, killed 15 - 30% of all Germans)The wars of religion in the NetherlandsThe dutch revolt (eighty years war)The wars of religion in England and ScotlandThe Scottish ReformationThe English civil warThe scottish civil warThe Taiping Rebellion was the bloodiest civil war in history and resulted in the death of 20 million people. It was started by Chinese Christian Protestants over religion.So there you go. It's more than a few, but it is not at all comprehensive, and could have been longer if I wanted to add more. I also did not include the numerous atrocities committed in the name of Christianity (killing of Jews, and witches) or the current worldwide oppression of of homosexuals in the name of Christianity.So now I ask you: name even one war that was begun in the name of atheism, not just by atheists.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

I find your first statement kind of funny because it, is both incorrect, and misses the point. As I just stated, the crimes committed by atheists weren't because of their atheism but because of their communist ideology.Their communist ideology caused their atheism.I shall only address a few.The CrusadesDo you happen to know why the crusades occurred?I take it that you don't.The Muslims were waging war all over the Middle East. In an effort to save both Jerusalem and Europe from Muslim domination, the Pope urged all Catholics to head to the Middle East and expel the infidels. Had it not been for the warlike Muslims, the Crusades would never have occurred.worldwide oppression of of homosexuals in the name of Christianity....and the Muslims. I'm sure that if you look deep enough, you'll find that there are others that object to homosexuality.The English civil warWas between the Parlimentarians and the Royalists.The Taiping Rebellion...was caused by the leader of a very warped form of Christianity.The dutch revolt (eighty years war)Also caused by excessive taxation.So now I ask you: name even one war that was begun in the name of atheism, not just by atheists.The Cold War.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Christians_in_Warsaw_Pact_countrieshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USSR_Anti-Religious_Campaign_(1917- 1921) They number in the millions, too.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

I recommend a course on European history. The crusades were begun by Christians when they invaded Jerusalem and slaughtered the Jews and Muslims who were living there (Jews and Muslims living peacefully together, surprising right?) at the Seige of Jerusalem in 1099 (a.k.a. the first crusade).In addition, did you hear the phrasing you used: "expel the infidels." Doesn't that sound eerily similar to what we hear from muslim extremist terrorists today?Anyway, you are also mistaken about the nature of Muslims back then. They were expanding there empire, but they were not the violent extremists we think of today. In fact, they preached religious toleration, and (as I mentioned earlier) lived in peace with Jews and Christians in their empire. It was the Christians who were acting intolerantly, and had been killing jews by the thousands in Europe....and the Muslims. I'm sure that if you look deep enough, you'll find that there are others that object to homosexuality.I agree, but you asked about Christianity. Just because others are oppressing homosexuals as well doesn't make it any better that Christians are doing it.From the wikipedia article about the English civil war:One of the first events to cause concern about Charles I came with his marriage to a French Roman Catholic princess, Henrietta-Marie de Bourbon. The marriage occurred in 1625, right after Charles came to the throne.[5] Charles' marriage raised the possibility that his children, including the heir to the throne, could grow up as Catholics, a frightening prospect to Protestant England.[6]So religion once again did play a part....was caused by the leader of a very warped form of Christianity.I would argue that any war fought in the name of a religion is a warping of religious texts. It says "Thou Shall Not Kill" in the 10 commandments and yet we see all of this violence. I'm not arguing that Christianity always leads to war, I'm merely disputing your point that atheists have committed atrocities (in the name of atheism) that are far worse than Christians.The dutch revolt was caused by a number of issues, but the oppression of Protestants by Charles V and Philip II played a significant role.Many of the wars I mentioned had numerous causes but in all of them religion also played a part.The cold war was not fought because of atheism. This is one of the stupidest things I've heard you say yet. As I've stated before, the only atheists that killed were communists: I'm not sure why that's so difficult for you to understand. I am strongly opposed to communism in general and especially opposed to the actions that were taken by Stalin, Mau and other communists who have killed in the name of their ideology. Their atheism was a symptom of their communism not the other way around. They all also believed in gravity, but this likely didn't influence their decisions to kill people either.So once again: any non communist, atheist mass murderers? Didn't think so.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

The Muslims had been attacking the last Christian 'outposts' for centuries. What is now Tunisia had fallen years earlier, now Constantinople was all that remained of the once-vast Roman Empire.Constantinople was being attacked frequently, and the Holy Lands had been taken by the Muslims.(read the first two lines:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Crusade) )Anyway, you are also mistaken about the nature of Muslims back then. Is this about that 'expel the infidels' quote? It was not meant to be connected with modern Islamic extremists, but rather with the Catholic opinion of the time.They were expanding there empire, but they were not the violent extremists we think of today.Did I not expressly mention that? I believe it was in my response to your dispute in which I stated that the Muslims were attacking Europe to both proselytize the Christians and gain lands.In fact, they preached religious toleration, and (as I mentioned earlier) lived in peace with Jews and Christians in their empire. It was the Christians who were acting intolerantly, and had been killing Jews by the thousands in Europe.That's precisely what I've told many others - to their great surprise.I would argue that any war fought in the name of a religion is a warping of religious texts. I've said that to others, as well. Ofttimes I mention something along the lines of "A religion is the sum of it's canonical texts. How others interpret those texts is not the fault of the religion."It says "Thou Shall Not Kill" in the 10 commandments and yet we see all of this violence.That's because people - not just Christians, mind you - are experts at manipulating others. They'll always find something to justify their actions.The cold war was not fought because of atheism.I do not believe that I meant to expressly state that the cause was atheism. The cause was communism - however (and this is a minor note), would the rest of the world (a great percentage of the world is Christian) have feared communism as greatly as they did if atheism was not a fundamental aspect?As I've stated before, the only atheists that killed were communists: I'm not sure why that's so difficult for you to understand.And as I said, communism encouraged atheism. If it were not for that fact, all those people would never have been killed as they were.Their atheism was a symptom of their communism not the other way around.I do believe that's what I meant by 'Communism encouraged atheism'. Had I meant the opposite, I'd have written 'Atheism encouraged communism'.P.S. Please note that this is probably the first time I've ever supported you.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

if I'm not mistaken you said"Name for me a few wars begun by Christians"not by Christianity, and he named the wars made by Christians
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

Their communist ideology caused their atheism.So? What does atheism matter?They number in the millions, too.So communists killed a bunch of people...
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

That proves for me that atheists - or at lest, some atheists - are nihilistic.'so communists killed a bunch of people...'
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

The Muslims started the Crusades. The Muslim Empire was going to invade Europe, and they had captured Israel. The "Crusades" against the Tartars had nothing to do with religion. And the Conquest of Alexander the Great was for land and power, although it did spread Hellenistic culture. The French wars were just the French Empire growing, not because of religion. Most of those wars have nothing to due with Christianity.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

The muslims began some of the crusades, definitely not all. In addition the crusades as a whole were begun by Christians invading Jerusalem and killing Jews and Muslims. Read about it here.I never mentioned the conquest of Alexander the great, I mentioned the Alexandrian Crusade.The French wars of religion were civil wars fought between French Catholics and Huguenots (French Protestants). The main conflict was religion.Almost all of these wars were fought either because of Christianity, or had Christianity as a cover for some other reason (like money or power).
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

Statistically, the crimes perpetrated by white people pale in the light of those perpetrated by black people. Either it's time for some ethnic cleansing, or you're full of shit and comparing apples to oranges. Does the phrase "isolated incident" mean nothing to you?
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

How about that other debate about Christians, Jews, and Muslims being separated from the rest of the human race?That thesis received a fair amount of approval. Why is it that atheists can't be treated as shitty as Christians, Jews, and Muslims? They've committed crimes as well!
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

Not really.Communists have committed crimes, but other than that atheists actually have been pretty damn well behaved.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

The crimes perpetrated by Christians pales in the light of the crimes perpetrated by atheists.You realise you just made a statement that expects a list of wars over two millennia?On top of this you are comparing it to wars perpetrated by an anti-belief.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

Hitler wasn't an atheist, but I agree with the sentiment of this debate.Mao Zedong, Vladimir Lenin, Castro, Marx, Stalin: they were some of the worst people in the history of the world, and yet they were atheists.And yet atheists claim that Christians are warlike !Come on, you're smarter than this. I shouldn't have to point out the obvious, that each of these men belonged to or founded an EXTREME POLITICAL IDEOLOGY.You're making the same exact false association that anti-rap/video games people do when they try to explain violent crime. Just like you, it doesn't matter that the kids [men] who did this were psychopaths [or tyrants] but no, it MUST have been the rap music and video games that made them go on a killing spree [in your case atheism].Hitler was a vegetarian by the way, I guess this means that vegetarianism leads to mass murder.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

EXTREME POLITICAL IDEOLOGY.An EXTREME POLITICAL IDEOLOGY which encouraged atheism, and thus encouraged the persecution of all theists!it MUST have been the rap music and video games that made them go on a killing spree [in your case atheism].Again, I've been misinterpreted.Violent video games can lead to violence - but rarely.That is beside the point.Marxist Communism encouraged, or rather, demanded, atheism. For them to demand the extermination of religion, then irreligious behavior must be the cause. If they had not cared about which religion the people subscribed, then I would agree that atheism was irrelevant to the Red 'reign of terror'.Hitler was a vegetarian by the way, I guess this means that vegetarianism leads to mass murder.This is a generalization - I've attempted to point out (to little avail) that Christianity has not entirely been responsible for the wars it caused, and at the same time acknowledging the fact that Christianity has been partially to blame.The Crusades were meant as an endeavor to save Christianity from Islam and the Holy Lands from Islam. The Muslims instigated the fight. (That is, if you planned on using the Crusades as a source).His vegetarianism is irrelevant - you could easily claim that any aspect of his lifestyle leads to mass murder. However, if one's political ideologies demanded the execution of all omnivores/carnivores, then I'd say that vegetarianism was responsible.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

An EXTREME POLITICAL IDEOLOGY which encouraged atheism, and thus encouraged the persecution of all theists!Atheism has no ideology. Therefore any persecution of theists falls under the purview of the extreme ideology. Is this really so hard to grasp or is it just that you really really want symmetry in this debate point?Marxist Communism encouraged, or rather, demanded, atheism. For them to demand the extermination of religion, then irreligious behavior must be the cause. If they had not cared about which religion the people subscribed, then I would agree that atheism was irrelevant to the Red 'reign of terror'.Marxism also demanded the redistribution of wealth, and a brief establishment of autocracy. Focus on these facts. The atheism is a red herring that you just can't seem to let go of.His vegetarianism is irrelevant - you could easily claim that any aspect of his lifestyle leads to mass murder. However, if one's political ideologies demanded the execution of all omnivores/carnivores, then I'd say that vegetarianism was responsible.Good. Now replace "vegetarianism" in that statement with "atheism" and you'll understand what I've been saying all along.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

Marx is awesome. Stalin sucks and mao sucks, castro eh, and Lenin had some bad ideas. What ever you consider bad about them probably doesn't correlate directly with them being atheists.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

Why is it that Christians can be insulted and harassed and nobody gives a shit, yet if you say something bad about a Muslim, or even an atheist, people will be angered?This debate was a response to a recent debate entitled 'should Christians, Jews, and Muslims be separated from the rest of the human race,' or something to the effect.People wrote about how horrible Christians have been in the passed, and stuff like that. I attempted to point out that atheists have also done bad things. What do I get? Banned and further ridicule.Atheism was directly responsible for what Lenin and Stalin did. They wanted an atheist state, and thus persecuted all religious people. It does correlate directly with them being atheists!