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Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: Right to ban

Before actually doing some research on Foie Gras, i would have typically thought that no government or any higherpower for that matter should have the right to tell you what to eat. I stilll infact believe this, but when reading how they hurt these animals i think it becomes more of an Animal Rights issue. Needless to say after seeing countless pictures of the poor ducks with huge silver feeding tubes stuffed down thier necks and reading grueling paragraph after another about them being over stuffed to the point where thier livers are ten times larger than normal. This is sick and wrong, and its people who eat things like this that allow terrible things like this to keep happening! So without a doubt BAN IT!
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: Right to ban

I don’t even understand how there is a “for” and “against” for this subject. I am for the City of Chicago banning Foie Gras because the product is produced in an inhumane manor. The US has historically accepted the inhumane treatment of animals in food production, but I think this is a step we have to take to ban the cruelty of animals. For example: your neighbor begins to force-fed his dog, so you call someone about it and the man is taken to court for inhumane treatment. But on the other side of things, inhumane treatment of animals is happening constantly in factory farms, but since it’s a moneymaker and for human consumption, it’s okay? No, it’s not humane to pen or cage these living animals in filthy confined spaces and force-feed bird after bird with the intention of creating disease within, so that wealthy people can enjoy a unnecessary delicacy.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

The fact that we are even having a debate on whether or not the government should have a say in what we eat is appalling! Our health is not their job neither is morality. I believe the government should get out of the morality business. Moreover, they suck at it! If we are told what and what not to eat- where does the term individuality go? I'll tell you where it it goes...it goes away. Please think people, and don't stand for this blatant dictatorship mentality. It's been proven for years that it does not work. As for the animal rights activists out there, fight the good fight but don't let your government tell you what you can and can not eat, it's wrong! And if you enjoy the freedom to speak out for animals take a look at the big picture...your rights could be next.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

I don't think animal cruelty is an individual right. The government isn't perfect by a long shot but I wouldn't want to live lawless. What would you consider the good fight to be for animal activists when the fight is about animal cruelty? Who do you think is behind our laws? only politicians? Many people lobby for moral laws that protect us from ourselves. Who would wear a seat belt or helmet if it wasn't a law?
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: Right to ban

Although I very strongly agree that the power of a nation needs to be in the hands of "the people" and not the governments, I believe the reason we created a government in the first place was to help regulate our freedoms. Now, I don't necessarily agree that what the government was originally created for is still being followed through with today, but I will say that I have no problem with the city of Chicago stepping in to take a stand against abuse. Freedom is the power to make choices and with that freedom comes the obligation of making the highest quality of choices; not only for ourselves, but for our families, cities, country and world. When we as a species fail to make wise decisions I believe they should be questioned and altered, for that is evolution of the mind and of a nation. Freedom to choose is a beautiful privilege that I am grateful to have, but we all need to realize that not everyones choices will be the same, thus "right and wrong" is born. I think the "murderer" is "wrong" and the murderer thinks he's "right." I know this all is situational but if we didn't have enforcement on things that brought harm to the world and its people/creatures I think we may find ourselves amidst chaos. I also think that people don't realize the enormity of a situation until it affects them. Everyone should have the freedom to choose but what happens when it starts affecting your everyday life? This is where mass decisions come in handy and I believe that any law that prohibits abuse, whether it be a child, animal, spouse, or destroying the rainforest, to be a just law. I just can't see any reason why we would want to put another living creature through more harm than what is required so that we may entice our palette. Being a carnivore myself, I understand the food chain and what it entails, and have no false illusions that something died so that I may live. But, I do like to think that the choices I make will have the least hurtful impact as possible. I think that there are plenty of amazing foods in this world that are already delicious enough that we can forgo the side dish of goose abuse. I also just can't see any gain of going through measures of animal abuse other than the producers wanting to make a profit. I don't believe that any living entity deserves a harder life than necessary due to greed.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: Right to ban

I wouldn't normally agree to ban a certain food item because as human beings we have the right to eat what we please. The government is already taking some of our rights as americans away and I don't wish to see any more of our human rights be banned. I also am a true believer in animal rights as well. I hate to even think of what these animals feel while being treated the way it is to be cut open so we can prepare a "french" delicacy. I may be biased because I don't particularly care for foie gras, but i would not mind if it were outlawed and the continuing of this cruelty to these ducks was stopped.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: Right to ban

I believe the city has a right to ban whatever it likes or in this case dislikes. It is being voted on and majority rules. The fact that the animal is being force fed to fatten its liver is torture. The killing of the animal for food at least puts it out of its misery. Leave the torture to the French....
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: Right to ban

You shouldent have the right to kill ANY living species for your own wants.. and I say wants because we do not need meat.. They're are plenty of alternatives.. And why should killing animals be legal if cannibalism isent.. My point is,, we're all living species and we if we don't need to be killed than we shouldent be.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: Right to ban

I agree to the right to ban foods that involve animal cruelty. Some humans will eat anything without regard as to what it is, where it came from or what is in it.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: Right to ban

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4dhcMhj9p8 All this to eat fatty meat?Yuck.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

The government doesn't have the right to tell us how, or what to eat. There are more important issues that they should be concerned with.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

I think that people should retain the rights for what they eat. If you don't like Foie Gras or you don't agree with the way the animals are raised then don't eat it and or don't patronize restaurants that offer and serve the dish.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

I don not believe a any government should be able to dictate or create laws to restrict what we eat. The governments main issue is animal cruelty. However this is obviously political. If animal cruelty was the issue, there would be major regulation and banning of fast food production. The government is aware of the conditions we raise our chickens, for example, let alone the genetic engineering we have do the chickens. Is that not animal cruelty? Since it is obvious that animal cruelty is not the real issue; I see no reason for the government to legislate what we eat.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

Is banning Foie Gras really going to change anything besides food on somebody's plate? If people have learned they love enlarged liver, they will find a way to get it. Veil is banned from a lot of places but i can still go and find a restaurant that serves it. If the government is so worried about the types of meat we eat, shouldn't they be trying to ban how cattle are being stacked up on top of each other so we can all enjoy a cheeseburger. It's really not something that they should be concerned with right now.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

Essentially this isn't even about the foie gras. Its about freedom of rights, this just happens to be one of those sticky situations that make it complicated. Its like banning plan B, its killing the baby, but its better than abortion? Do women have the right to choose or does the government? Its the same thing, it may be cruelty to animals but how many rights will we let the government take from us? So, what happens if we say yes to this, and then something else, eventually they will take it all away. They could pass a law saying you can't say " i want to kill you" in public, and everyone's like "well i guess that makes sense" but then your empowering them to start taking other free speech away. Have we not the right to oppose our government if we do not see it fit? I suppose a solution would be that we would have to get the foie gras imported, that we cannot do that to animals in the U.S. My question though is whats considered animal cruelty? I think of animal cruelty as raising animals to kill and eat. Should we make everyone become a vegetarian? No, thats taking away our rights, just like banning the eating of it.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

The more we give the government power to rule over the small things like what we eat and serve, the less we will realize that the big things are getting controlled too. soon we will not have a say, and as far as i have learned about the foundations of the USA, it has been founded on freedom and the right to choose. Like the famous story about the pastor wanting to move the organ all the way across the room, but the people would not have it; his solution move it bit by bit so they wouldn't notice the small changes. We too will have the little things like foie gras (not that i have the appetite for such a thing) taken away from us, then it might very soon be our freedom all together. "Stand up and say no to banning Foie Gras"!
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

I absolutely agree with agutkowski. The reason the city is outlawing Foie Gras is about cruelty. The reason for this debate is whether or not the city has the right pass laws like outlawing Fois Gras. We have to look at the bigger picture. No one wants to see animals hurt, and if they do, maybe they need some help of another kind, however no one wants to see our freedoms taken away. If we overlook the making of some of these "minor laws" then really how long before they think they have the right to meddle in your life. Lets see how pro government you are when they decide that you are only allowed to have one child or only keep a male child, maybe then you will wonder if you gave the government too much power. Afterall, "Absolute power corrupts absolutely."
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: Right to ban

So you're 100% okay with the fact that it causes a prolonged state of hurt for the animal?
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: Right to ban

So agutkowski, you're saying that we should vote to allow the mistreatment of animals in order to make a point to the government that they shouldn't take away our freedoms?You're getting off the subject here. By all means, stand up to the government when they try to take away some serious freedoms but we're talking about them taking the animal abuse out of producing duck liver (different from taking away duck liver altogether).
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

I believe the government has no right to ban Foie Gras. Yes I have a big issue with cruelty to animals, but we eat awkward things everyday. In Ecuador they eat guinea pigs(cuy), Asia they eat amaradillos, Korea they eat dogs and cats. That is their culture so why interfere with that. Yes it may be an unappealing thing to eat but people seem to like it. I think the goverment should stay out of the food business. If it is not posionous, deadly or anything dangerous then let them eat it. If you are going to ban this particular dish, you might as well ban everything else that may seem unappealing.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: Right to ban

With all do respect, in places like Ecuador and Asia they do not put the animal through constant state of discomfort, pain and terror before serving them. I do agree that the government should stay out of the food business, but do u actually think that the way they treat these animals is humane?
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: Right to ban

So, if in another country there is canibalism or some such, it's right to do it here.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

The government already has to much control I see no reason to give them more.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

Fois Gras my be some kind of torture in some way but we have to think about how if we keep giving the government more and more power they are going to have power over everything. This is a very complicated situation to agree or disagree on only because so many people think it as animal abuse but if you really think about it, in France this is something that is mass produced because its something that France is very well known for so how could the government just take it all away from these people when they have been doing this for so long? I believe that if you give them (the government) an inch they are going to take a mile as they always do not matter the situation. If you give a kid a piece of candy they are always going to want more just as you give the government some rights they are going to take it all away from us and we are not going to have our rights anymore. I think that you can eat whatever you want no matter what. If people were starving the government would not be banning Foie Gras. Have they thought about the people in Hati? Or even just the regular every day people who are trying really hard to just put food on the table? Its hard to see it this way in a lot of peoples eyes but this is how I see it.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: Right to ban

I think it's pretty presumptuous to say that letting the government define animal cruelty and make regulations to prevent it will ultimately lead to them taking away all of our rights.Another thing, with foie gras being sold at an average price of $50 per pound something tells me it's not being shipped to Haiti right now.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

I belive the people have the right to eat what they want. If this debate were in another country there would be no arguement just opinion. The fact is we americans try to justify what is right and what is wrong for the world. But in fact the governmet controls what is right and what is wrong in so many different ways, why do they need to control what we eat?!!!
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

I believe that they have no right to ban this delicacy. We eat chicken and ducks don't we? So, I see no real point in trying to ban the eating of such a food. Compare it to the eating of CUY (guinea pig). That is considered to be a delicacy or staple food in South America. Yet here in America we have guinea pigs for pets. We look at people with disgust at the thought of eating something like that. But to them it is just a normal way of life. Just as is the eating of foie gras. It's perfectly normal to the people who eat it. Why should we take that away from them? That would be like trying to take a hamburger and fries out of the hands and mouths of almost any American. It's normal to us. Eating foie gras is just as normal to them.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

I think banning Foie Gras is not a good idea. What next double cheeseburgers? Seems like we have a law for everything nowadays. Instead of adding another law maybe we should get rid of one. If people don't like the way Foie Gras comes to be then they have the option not to support it with the vote of the dollar.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

It may not be right to force feed birds but its not right to inject cows or chickens with hormones either. Think they are doing it because they (the government) hasn't found a way to get in there and make out a big enough cut maybe . i think we should all have the choice to eat what we want. I don't think they should ban it.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: Right to ban

Just because one cruelty to farmed animals is not being fully addressed doesn't mean another should not. This isn't a ban on what you eat but on animal cruelty.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

I think that this has nothing to do with the governments power to ban everything, but pertains to the particular instance. I don't like how the animals are raised, but they are raised for food, and unless you are a vegetarian i think you are a hippocrite to say that they can ban it. Afterall, the ducks are going to be killed which is a lot worse than having pain.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: Right to ban

I'd rather be killed.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

No, I don't think they should have the right to ban it. Since when should the government decide what we should and shouldn't eat? This is America after all, land of the free!
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

The "traditional" way is to force feed the animal, now that is wrong. But if you read on it says a more conventional way is natural feeding. So if there was a reg put onto force feeding rather then prohibiting it that would have been better. I think that the Government over stepped its bondaries here. BOOOOO on the Government for that one. And another thing - I use to live in front of a pond, have you ever seen a tame goose or duck be feed? They hardley need to be forced to eat their on body weight in bread in just under a minute. like i said force feeding is bad, but its not hard at all to get a goose or duck overly fat naturally feeding it. every one is assuming that every goose or duck used for Foie Gras is force feed. and we all know what assume means... makes an ASS out of U and ME. Not sorry to offend.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

Wow! How could the government really take it that far. As humans I think we have eaten everything in the book. What is the difference between eating a duck and rabbit or even a lamb? If this is animal cruelty, we just lost all of the butchers for taking a cow, chicken, and pigs life. God created animals knowing that they would be our food supply along with vegetation. Whether we choose to eat animal meat or not is a PERSONAL preference. What would the government do next, maybe shipping mandatory groceries to our homes instead of choosing our family meals at the grocery store?!
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

i don't agree with the decision to band foreign gas. the government could offer rewords to those who chose to not use foreign gas but until the government comes up with a substitute i simply don't see the decision as being justified. The governemt id supposed to be there to support the peoples best interest, telling people what they can and cant do dose not fall under the protection of the people.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: Right to ban

This isn't petrol we're talking about .
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

Although I think it is inhumane how people go about making foie gras, I think that the government does not have the right to ban it from being served as a dish. The way the meat industry conducts their business, in my opinion, is completely inhumane...all the added hormones and the living conditions of the poor animals! But that's not against the law...The goverment already has too many rules for us. Isn't this supposed to be a free country? To a certain extent, rules and regulations help keep control over society, but what happened to our independence???...the right to eat what we want to eat? If someone wants to eat foie gras, they should be allowed to eat it! Why should their be a law against it?! There are so many rules in this world, what about our liberty and freedom?
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

I dont agree with any government banning the rights we have been given to us layed down in the constitution.The us government has already made it almost impossible to be a true individual so banning a type of food is just one more thing to control us by. But at the same time if it was canabalism we would all agree with them banning it so that says something about what is socialy acceptable.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

I wrote in last night, as I have been reading a lot of information about food, I have begun to stew. I would like to repeat that I am not for the hurting of animals, however i am a little incensed that we are sitting around worried about the ducks when there are much bigger issues, that are much worse. I realize that to quote a song is a bit cheesy, but the band James has it correct when they sing, "If you wanna change the world shuit your mouth and start this minute!" While we waste time, me included, sitting around and whining about the world, we could actively be doing something. With that said, see ya later!
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

What gives anyone the right to choose what another person eats, no matter what it is? I don't eat organic things and never will. I hate organic food, so does that give me the right to try to get it bannned? NO! If you don't like what the food or agree with how it is processed it's simply stay away from it.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: Right to ban

No one cares what you eat. The concern is on the treatment of farmed animals. Do you even understand what organic means? Organic is clean food vs. pesticide, hormone, antibiotic, preservative, artificially, laced foods. Same food, one clean, one not.
Debate: Foie Gras: Tasty Liver Snack or Cruelty to Animals?
Side: No right to ban

I don't believe it! It's pretty ridiculous that they would ban it for animal cruelty when we eat pigs, cows, lamb etc. People eat duck and geese, so why ban just the liver? What else would you use it for? Why not ban eating duck or geese in general? It's pretty dumb that they are trying to control everything, even what we eat.