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Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

that's why all women regret it later on in life Not all women regret having an abortion, I'm not sure where you came up with this statistic.doctor may say that giving birth to this child would be life threatening but doctors aren't always rightSo, the doctors are wrong by saying the baby could be life-threatening? There are many cases where this happens, and mothers die in child-birth on occasion, so you can't say the doctors are wrong by addressing the facts.If I was in college and working a part time job and i got pregnant that is my fault and I have to deal with my consequencesThat would be your choice now, wouldn't it? It wouldn't be someone else's choice, it would be yours.I have no right to punish that babyWithin the first stages of pregnancy, it is not even a baby yet, it is merely what will become a baby, and not actually a baby yet. There would be no "punishing", if you can't have the baby, can't afford the baby, don't want the baby, experience unneeded stress or other consequences from the baby, or could die from having the baby, then there wouldn't be any punishing towards the fetus. It doesn't even know it's alive yet at early stages.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

I said doctors aren't always right because miracles have happened before where a doctor says one thing and something else happens I didn't say their wrong all the time or this has never happened before and I'm sure there have been occasions where the doctor didn't know that the baby would be life threatening. Even if the baby would be life threatening its selfish to kill life to save your own life and thats stupid to think that just because it doesnt have arms yet or a brain it isnt a baby because if your mother had had an abortion with you you would not be here right now so all those babies that have been killed were supposed to be sitting in all those empty desks in your classroom when you were in school. Also, haven't you noticed that mothers would do anything to save the life of their child which includes taking their own life and to me their is nothing wrong with dying to save another life that's called being selfless. Also, back to the whole college thing that should be everyone's choice and people who think otherwise are selfish because that was your stupid mistake not anybody else's
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Mother like or not tend to grow attached when they have their babies. If they have doubs befor giving birth, they will be gone afterwards.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

What about their financial status?? What if their family will disown them if they keep the baby, but they're too attached to put them up for adoption? What if they have physical injuries from the delivery? The baby isn't the only problem here.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

You are incorrect in stating, "if you kill a woman with child; you will be charged for two counts of homicide." You would only be charged with two counts of homicide if the prosecution can prove the baby could have survived outside of the womb. If a doctor were to provide an abortion after 24 weeks, he or she would also be charged with homicide (unless the baby would not have been viable or was a threat to the health of the mother).
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

You are a self destructive snowflake and your arguments are invalidated, chanceypants. Cry me a river and get over it. Baby lives matter. You were once a baby too, a fetus in your mother's womb. Did your mother not cherish your life? Maybe not, that's why you are so hateful towards newborns.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

In the United States, The 'Unborn Victims of Violence Act' makes it a crime of murder to kill a child in the womb at any stage of their development while in the womb. The law (for now) makes an exception to keep abortions legal but the legal premise has been established. A child in the womb is a child (person) and their killer can be charged with murder  for their killing.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

First of all , let me clear you one thing that everyone has got a freedom of choice , right? and if the other person is willing to do ? so
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Technically speaking, a fetus is not a human yet. Having an abortion is similar to wearing a condom. No baby is made, yet intercourse still happens.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

A fetus is a stage of development. The genes are what determines what kind of fetus it is. So when a human being has an abortion she takes the life of a human fetus, not the fetus of a dog or cat, a human fetus. About the condom. Using a condom is what you do before fertilization to try and prevent fertilization. An abortion is what you do after fertilization has occurred to stop further growth of the product of fertilization. And when done on humans it ends the life of a human in the early stages of development. Them are the facts; abortions on humans ends the life of a human, using condoms prevents the fertilization of the human sperm and egg.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

If wearing a condom only prevents the fertilization of an egg, doesn't it also stop the fetus from being made? There isn't much difference in ending it and not letting it start.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Technically speaking, fetuses are developing human beings. Science proves it 100%. Reject this truth and you are certified as a snowflake and mentally insane patient. Your arguments are already invalidated.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

No, you are simply mistaken. A fetus is a stage of development in the life span of an animal. We happen to be talking about the life of a human and nothing else.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

It is true. Fetuses, proven by science, are living. They are developing human beings and it takes 9 months ofc for that to be completed. Everybody was once a fetus in his or her mother's womb. To dehumanize another developing human being says alot about the individual who claims to be pro "choice" aka pro abortionist aka pro murder to be hypocritical, stupid and ignorant. Biology is beautiful. All abortionists deserve to die since they don't care about human life. Why didn't their mothers abort them right? It's simple, because their mothers cared about them only for them to grow up to ignore other new developing humans.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

What is a fetus then? A dog? An alien? Last time I checked humans create humans!
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

They also create poop and urine. Should you be convicted of murder every time you flush?
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

dude... for the first 12 weeks it's literally an overgrown sperm...
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Please tell me your parents were refunded their money with interest and an apology after your graduated.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

You assume that an unconscious collection of cells is a human being. If I scratch my arm, that should be considered murder under your logic. After all, I am killing human cells.We cannot treat something as something else just because it has the potential to become that something else. We cannot treat a baby as a kindergartner, a kindergartner as a teenager, a teenager as an adult, or me as the President of the United States.And we can't treat a fetus as a baby.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

No, but you would treat a baby as a human, you'd treat a kindergartner as a human, a teenager as a human, and you as a human. The only difference between a fetus and a baby is that a fetus is going through earlier stages of life/development. The difference between a baby and a kindergartner is that they're at different stages of life/development. The difference between a teenager and an adult is that they're at different stages of life/development. Maybe you shouldn't treat a fetus as though it's a baby - but you should treat it as a human.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Yeah fetuses are developing human beings so yes, they are technically not there yet 100%, however, are on the way to being born. That's why it's wrong to allow abortion to go through. All of us were once fetuses. To dehumanize a mere fetus will be dehumanizing what that individual was once too. Pro choicers are destroying themselves by claiming fetuses don't matter but if people had said the same about them, they wouldn't be here. But they are, because their parents cared enough to cherish their lives.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

attn Jstantall:so why did Bush change the law when he had a Republican Congress and receptive Federal judges ???you can't blame this on limp Democrats or socialist liberals
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Well, if you have a lame duck congress who stonewalls him on everything; I think it would be reasonable to blame them.But that's not the question at hand is it? The question is; what is being killed in an abortion? that's the only one that matters.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

is Bush # 43 ancient history?during his eight years, he had a Republican controlled Congress that was NOT in a lame duck statuseven when it was so-called lame duck, are yah telling me that the Republicans would have voted against Bush administration abortion restrictions ?they had the 50+% Congressinal majority and could have forced a Senate filibuster debatebut i suspect that the Republican leadership primarily give the anti-abortionist lip service
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

FYI Jstantallin 2004 Bush won re-electionthe Republicans increased their Senate majority from 51 to 55 seatsthe Republicans increased their Congressional majority from 229 to 231the Republican party was not in a lame duck status and could have curbed Roe versus Wadeexcuses, excuses, excuses ...
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

FYIThe question is not who did or didn't do this or that. The question is should abortion be banned. I say it already is. We already have laws against murder; it's just that Roe vs Wade made a loop hole in the law and that ought to scare the hell out of any sane individual. Because with that ruling a whole class of people just became non persons and no longer protected under the Constitution. Abortion is the unjustified taking of a human life in the early stages of development and that is wrong. And if it is within in your power to stop it and you don't; you are just as guilty, regardless of your political affiliation.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

The view of "Abortion is the unjustified taking of a human life in the early stages of development and that is wrong" is expected of a pro-lifer looking to force his/her belief on others.Abortion is actually not unjustified. People have very good reasons to do it. It's not a fun activity, so to arrive at the decision people would have had to consider lots of options. Abortion is also not the taking of a human life. It's the prevention of a human life, same as having sex with a condom, using the pills, abstinence, etc...Finally, believe what you want, but don't force it on others. I respect pro-lifers' views, they should respect my views. What I do with my body doesn't affect the quality of their lives. Don't affect the quality of mine!
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: Both sides are self-righteous assholes

Even if the senate could overturn Roe vs Wade, 55-51 in the Senate is really not much of a majority. Hell, if you look at the current Senate they have 60 members and they can't even get anything done. The Democrats could have easily filibustered any attempt that would have been as controversial as removing abortion laws.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

I agree, go back and look at the record of Congress under Bush; it's record is shameful. If Bush couldn't get appointees even voted on; How could he possible address such a controversial subject as abortion?
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

... okay, I just looked at it.So what exactly did Bush want that he didn't get? I see nothing here... including that bs war in Iraq, the unconstitutional "Patriot" Act, and that 900 billion dollar tax cut that didn't do jack to help the economy.That's not really the point though.This is about abortion,go ahead, try and make it illegal.The world has been through this a dozen times, and for hundreds of years.Illegal Abortions prevent 0 abortions from happening, and kills woman that have to go to basements and the homes of people who may or may not be doctors to get the procedure, and who often die as a result.Amen right man ._.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

I would rather lose a handful of women occasionally through botched abortions than sacrifice on average 1500 children daily to save those women.  If perfection is your standard for law then you are correct, however laws were meant to restrain. And prior to Roe vs Wade the law against abortion did that quite well, perfection? No. Made it rare? most certainly. And what happened after Roe vs Wade? abortions went through the roof. Laws are meant to keep us from killing ourselves off but Roe vs Wade does the opposite. it sanctions it. Consider Europe, within a hundred years, if not sooner, Europeans will cease to exist as a unique people group. Why? Zero Population growth. They're not reproducing and when they do, they kill it. Europe will be a Muslim nation within our lifetime, Why? They're having families. So please tell me why we should follow the Europeans into extinction?
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

1. duh, the point is these woman are going to have an abortion whether it's banned or not. So either the cluster of cells is removed and the woman lives. Or the cluster of cells is removed and the woman dies. Either way, abortion being banned has never in human history stopped people from getting abortions.2. No, it didn't make it rare, that's the point. Banning abortion doesn't stop it, it just hides it and demonizes woman, who many times are only children at the time, and who many times were raped. And you wonder why no one likes talking hardcore Christians about this kind of thing.3. wtf? have you been reading the white supremacist newsletter again? Europe's population is doing just fine. And there's nothing wrong in and of itself if they do end up having more muslims than whatever they have now. Who cares? Why's it your business what someone else does?And who the fuck is "we" you arrogant ass. The US does not have a "we" we're supposed to be founded on the idea of diversity and freedom. I find this entire post incredibly offensive, and you get a rare downvote from me.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

You said 'who many times were raped'I say ONLY 1% OF ALL ABORTIONS IN THE UNITED STATES ARE BECAUSE THE PREGNANCY IS THE RESULT OF RAPE OR INCEST!!!!! I have posted this many times.What would you say if a court ruling said that a child is not a human being until the age of 15? The murder rate of children would INCREASE. The abortion numbers INCREASED AFTER Roe v. Wade. The numbers would DECREASE SIGNIFICANTLY if abortion was illegal.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Your point on whether a child of 15 years is a human being or not is ridiculous. We're talking about a fetus that can't survive outside the womb, we're talking about a potential life, not an actual life. A 15 year-old is a person so your "what if" is simply laughable.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Babies can be seen silently screaming during an abortion. What does that tell you?
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

It tells me you've been watching a certain anti-abortion video too many times :)
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

I am pro-life.I am a faithful Christian.I have five younger siblings. The two youngest I remember their life clearly. I want you to look at a one day old baby, look at her fingers, toes, face, legs, watch her breathe, and watch her interact with people and tell she was not a human being in the womb.I want you to watch a 2 year old play with her baby sister and tell me that the baby was not a human being in the womb.I want you to look at a one day old baby, look at her fingers, toes, face, legs, watch her breathe, and watch her interact with people and tell she was not a human being in the womb.If you can do either of these, I will be astounded about how emotionless you are. And I will pray that some day abortion is illegal.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

I happy for you that you have all these great images and memories of young children playing together, etc... very touching, i hope you treasure them for ever. But you're not talking about fetuses are you? We're talking about fetuses, especially the ones before the age of 20 weeks in its development. Get back on track please!
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Helloim, you are correct 100%. Biology doesn't lie about the 9 month development of any baby; boy or girl wise.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

I've seen these videos. If it's not self-aware it's not a human yet, no matter what it looks like.You're talking about you're feelings and what you believe because you're a typical self-righteous self-involved christian completely incapable of understanding that what you think and feel is not what everyone else thinks and feels.The laws put in place on abortion take into account what science finds to be truenot how you feel helliom or what you think some invisible daddy in the sky wants you to feel.Abortion is illegal after the third trimester except in extreme circumstances. Before then it's not a human yet, it's the specific woman's body and not yours, and it's none of your business.That's how it is and that's how it should be,no matter how many of you right wing nuts highjack this site and serial downvote us sane and logical participants on the site.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Its me again!"...If it's not self-aware it's not a human yet, no matter what it looks like"Then why are we so worried about the trees? Are they are "self aware"?Actually, human children are not self aware for some time AFTER birth. Does that mean we can dump them if we change our minds?"...Abortion is illegal after the third trimester except in extreme circumstances"Not exactly true. There are states, and forgive me for not remembering right off the top of my head which ones, that allow abortion "up to the moment of birth"I will see if I can find that one."...no matter how many of you right wing nuts high jack this site and serial down vote us sane and logical participants on the site."Now thats disappointing. I really thought after reading some of you responses that you were more open and intelligent than this. Isn't it cool to be tolerant anymore?
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

great ._.1. Who's worried about trees? It just doesn't make sense to cut all of them down without planting new ones, since then all humans would die, born or not.2. Um, kids are self-aware, they just don't develop empathy until sometime after birth. But a new born has feelings, knows when it's hungry, etc. Therefore it's wrong to throw them in dumpsters.3. True, and it's state to state. But even the states that do allow it up to birth, again it is only in extreme circumstances. If I'm a woman in any state and I'm due in a week, and my life is not in danger, and I'm not a child myself and I wasn't raped by my dad or something, then abortion is not an option. And I'm fine with that actually, I think it's the right law.4. About 2 or 3 months ago I'd say 5 right wing nuts showed up here and downvoted nearly every argument I've ever made in my over a year on this site. It's why I don't show up as often.If someone wants to disagree fine, but use facts and logic. I'm tired of having the Bible quoted at me, responses rife with logical fallacies, responses that didn't bother to read what I wrote, and those who need to announce their faith before making an argument when their faith has 0 to do with the argument. I never downvote or insult anyone just because I disagree, I do so when they act like a moron, whether I agree with them or not.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

1. The argument I was trying to make is that the Left seems to be more concerned about saving trees than they are HUMAN BEINGS. Thats another "debate" I guess.2. OK not an argument here but I would appreciate some clarification...is it empathy or self awareness we are waiting for before we call them human? The reason I am asking is because it was my experience with my son that he almost immediately could sense his mothers emotional state and reacted in kind. He recognized both my wife's and my voice and music that he heard while in the womb.3. I somewhat agree on this one in that if the birth risks the life of both the mother and the baby then there is no choice. I will admit I would anguish over a decision like that for the rest of my life.As far as rape goes...while it is certainly not the fault of the mother that it happened to her it is also not the fault of the child.4. I understand that but remember "when your enemy makes you angry ...they win" Someone really smart and famous said that but for the life of me I cant recall who.Try not to forget that "facts" and "logic" vary according to each individuals viewpoint and at times, can be subjective both on the right and the left. They are as tired of you quoting science that they dont believe in as your are of them using a book that you dont believe in. Both groups have absolute belief in their sources.If they are "right wing nuts" let them be....wont that just about make your argument for you? Dad always said that we catch more flies with honey than we do vinegar!
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Have you ever seen an ultrasound?Have you ever seen a desperate teen change her mind to have an abortion after seeing her ultrasound?Have you seen a 3-D ultrasound?All these moments are life changing!
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

This is ridiculous. Yes I've seen all of this stuff. I even had a girlfriend who had an abortion. You're being ridiculous, just because you feel something doesn't make it true.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Mate ... stop.These moments may be life changing for you. None of these things change what a desperate woman is willing to do to get that fetus out of her stomach.And to me having one unaware parasite not get a chance at life is better than an unaware parasite and an aware human being both ending up in some form of dumpster.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

What videos?I never mentioned videos or movies! I was talking about watching my two baby sisters play with each other
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

I assumed another ultrasound video, and I've seen like 50 of them. But this is even worse, no one wants to see your sisters, and that video has 0 to do with abortion since they are already born.