Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

Before i dispute, i actually admire your determination on this side of the debate for an unknown reason. Anyway, if you find me rude, please don't. I want to be nothing but smiles when debating. :)To deprive a person of life is considered immoral. If one were to kill another in war, the person's family is sad. Many may be depressed to the point of ending their life. There is a chain reaction of death. Essentially, the man who killed the other in war has killed all of them. This is murder, since the family was not associated with war and therefore was killed unlawfully.I see what you are saying. I use to agree with your logic. But when i distinguished between "cause" and "responsibility" then i began to disagree with the logic. Lets say someone in war kill a mother's son. And the mother found out and hanged herself. Well i will say in this point of view, this is not murder. This is suicide. Suicide and murder are two different things. In your logic, you see that the death of the son caused a reaction in the death of the mother. I do agree that there can be a chain of reaction when death happens. However, in the "cause" and "responsible" logic i see, the killer in war was a cause in the death of the mother, but the killer was not responsible. The way i think of the term "responsible" is a word that means "more direct." The mother was responsible for her own death because she tied the rope around her neck. The killer in war did not do that himself. In this logic, it feels appropriate to call this murder on the killer's part. The killer, however, played a major cause in her death. You think the other way around. And i see and understand this logic. I somehow understand the contradictions in my own logic. @_@ And contradictions equals false as some people would say but i see your logic and agree with it on some levels. Like for example, if i shoot a bird int he air and it falls on the head of a human baby, and the baby died, i would feel responsible. I would feel linked to the death with me at the start of the link. HOWEVER, in this logic of yours, the link extends and extends and extends and it would show that maybe others are connected to the death of the baby, and, in your example, the death of the mother. What i am saying is...who drove me to the spot who shot the bird? Lets say it is my friend. Now he is in the start of the link that ultimately caused the infant's death. But, who gave his existence? Mother and father of course. So now the parents are in front of the link that made my friend's existence, that made my friend drove me, that made me shoot the bird, that made the child died. So the parents are murderers as well. In this logic with your example...who allowed the killer to be in war? Who gave power to the person to allow the future killer to be in war? And we can go on and on with infinite question possibly leading up to the scientific Big Bang Theory. And what about the trees? And the apples? And you and I? The trees and the apples inaction allowed the person to kill the mother's son. You and I should be murderers as well because either we didn't do anything or we didn't know. And yes, not knowing about a murder makes us murderers in this logic of yours because we didn't do anything to stop it. It seems weird to blame the inactivity of trees and us, for the murder of the mother. We automatically give a nasty face to those accusers or have a disgust thought because we think "hey, i didn't tie the rope to her neck." But that is what your logic is saying. The soldier killed a son, a mother hangs herself even though the soldier didn't do with his own hands, and now the solider is a murderer. This is the chain of reaction you was talking about. But don't forget our inactivity, our non knowing of the murder, and the apples and the tree inactivity that caused a chain as well for making the death more and more possible. ....I don't think i answered your question. ahhh im such an idiot. I guess what i said above was that i wanted to extend this logic of yours by blaming trees and apples, to make you think that maybe the soldier in war maybe isn't a killer....and making killing justified. Sigh:)