azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

The majority of people in this country are Christian..are they not?That is why I make my claim this is a Christian Nation.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

utter stupidity.the majority of people in the US are female (http://www.nationalatlas.gov/articles/people/a_gender.html), a majority don't want an iPad (http://news.cnet.com/8301-17852_3-10448755-71.html) and a majority of people voted for Obama in 2008 so:the US is a liberal Female who doesn't like iPads nation!!
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

What does this have to do with the topic?---------------------------------------
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

it shows the stupidity of the 'whatever the majority is must be what the nation is' argument - the nation's population was mostly women when no women could even vote.argumentum ad populum is just a logic fallacy used by people with no real argument
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

This article was written primarily to make the U.S. appear neutral when making a peace treaty with a predominantly Muslim nation. Also it should be noted that the English translation is a very sketchy one that can easily be twisted out of order. Furthermore, the majority of U.S. citizens at the time WERE Christian. There is no possible way that a government founded on the will of it's people (a democracy) cannot be swayed by the beliefs of said people.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

At Republican2 (again) but also sulith:If either of you bothered to read the constitution and the history surrounding it, you'd understand that the reason our government was founded without official church support was because Europe at the time was bitterly divided between religions and sectarian violence. Protestants and Catholics were killing each other, and only a century or two prior there was the Spanish inquisition, and the crusades against Muslims.What makes a country theocratic, or a specific religion is WHEN the government SANCTIONS a particular CHURCH. There is no such thing as a Christian nation. The term is meaningless because there are around a hundred sects of Christianity, and an official church would exclude them all except for one.People get riled up over seemingly small things like "under god" in the pledge, and "in god we trust" on money and our motto because these are slow but progressive affronts to our guaranteed right in this country to be able to believe what we want. It is what could be called the shadow of a greater threat, Dominionists, Christian Reconstructionists, among others who are bent upon making this country a true theocracy where only one belief is allowed. They are being allowed to succeed because they are using your in-built prejudicial support for anything with god in it.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

if the entire US Senate and the President want America to appear to be neutral - then aren't we neutral?? or were all those Christians just lying to fool the Muslims?"the Barlow translation (Article 11 included) was the text presented to, read aloud in, and ratified unanimously by the U.S. Senate"being swayed by the beliefs of the founders is far from saying that the country in perpetuity has to believe in the same religion as the founders - especially when those founders (given their religion and experience) specifically said in the Bill of Rights that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

"Also it should be noted that the English translation is a very sketchy one that can easily be twisted out of order."Are you serious?If I hand you a contract that's written entirely in a language that you don't understand, are you going to sign it and THEN ask me to translate it for you?
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

The Pledge, was never meant to hurt anyone with their religious views, in the first place. no one is forcing them to say "under god". there not going to go to jail if they dont say "under god". so why is it that by mojority, thats how people are viewing their points.?
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

you can obviously see that some people do not want to say it - so it is not really relevant that it's not meant to hurt anyone.PS - people used to be arrested more frequently (often Jehova's witnesses who think the flag is an idol), but they are still being arrested in the present day: http://www.thefoxnation.com/culture/2010/02/24/teacher-punished-making-student-stand-during-pledge
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

In my years in school, I have recited the Pledge of Allegiance more than a thousand times, and never in my opinion did I feel like I was being brainwashed into believing in God.The two-word reference to God inside our routine civic exercise is not a prayer, nor was it meant to be one. When the words "under God" were added to the Pledge on Flag Day of June 14, 1954, it emphasized the American tradition of faith written in the Declaration of Independence.President Dwight D. Eisenhower approved the addition, saying, "In this way we are reaffirming the transcendence of religious faith in America's heritage and future; in this way we shall constantly strengthen those spiritual weapons which forever will be our country's most powerful resource in peace and war." Those who go against the Pledge know nothing of the values placed by the U.S. Constitution and basically are spitting in the face of our Founding Fathers. These are the grounds on which our country stands. Had there been a question of the meaning of the added clause when it was first presented in 1954, perhaps we wouldn't be having this debate now. But for more than 50 years, this has been the law, and it should stay that way.Plus, this issue must be examined in context. Taking out the words 'under God' would start a whole series of ridiculous modifications, each affecting every little aspect of our lives. Will we be banned from singing "God Bless America"? Will the term "so help me God" be taken out of the pledge as the president is sworn in? Are the mints going to need to reproduce billions in new currency because "In God we trust" just won't cut it? And I'm sure even Michael Newdow, the man who took the case to court when he said the Pledge was unconstitutional, uses His name in vain like many of us do.No, there is no need to take out or substitute the words "under God" from our Pledge of Allegiance. In fact, the law doesn't even require teachers to force their students to say the pledge if they choose not to. If you've got a problem with saying the pledge, then don't say it. It's that simple. Citizens are so lucky to be in a country as free as the United States. Other countries, where religion is the way of life, aren't so flexible.Stop trying to change the words. They were put there for a reason. And they have worked peacefully for half a century. The Pledge is not just words - it represents our restored faith in our country. If people want to change the Pledge, then perhaps they should change countries.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

if the pledge doesn't have any effect, then why say it at all??it is only routine to school students - most of whom don't even know what the pledge meanswell, of course we can't fix it, then we would fix the other stupid God references (of course God wants to be put on our money)Citizens are lucky to be so free as to be able to say whatever the majority decides they shouldstop trying to keep the words, they weren't put there (for nearly 200 years) for a reasonand of course anyone who disagrees with Bush or Obama should just leave the country... aahhh freedom
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

In America, they wish to remove a religious statement.In Canada, they wish to change the anthem to be more feminist.Damn political correctness!
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

We have free speech!!!!!!!! America isnt becoming a religious statement that is just how people have and probably always say the pledge of alliegnce.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

Free speech?All the more reason to say it if you want to, and to ignore it if you prefer.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

all the more reason not to try and shove it down elementary school kids throats
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

IF so then why should it be taken out it should just be left alone. ................................................................................................................................
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

I said that it shouldn't be taken out.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

Favoring the Constitution is not "political correctness".
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

It never states a specific god, so you could be any sort of religion that believes in a "supreme being" and not have a problem with this. So, in theory: only atheists should only have a problem with this. Right?
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

and agnostics and people who believe in more than one god and jehova's witnesses who don't believe in saluting the idol of the flag...
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

If jehova's Witenesses, dont believe in saluting to the flag, then they shouldnt be in the discussion. and for others "under god" can be to all of there gods.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

Without God there wouldn't be a pledge. The US is a country built on our religious commitment with God.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

Wow, you are one misguided sheep. The country was built on religious freedom that being with or without religion.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

I mean, c'mon, this is to easy. In the pledge it says "Under God" right. But which God. It does not specify which god(Christian, Islam, etc.). Really this would be offensive to someone with a religion that is not monothestic.But its their choice, I am someone who believes in that everyone should have equal rights.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

Congress finds God an integral part of American heritage. Under Bill S. 2690, Congress finds that the country of the United States of America was created so people may pursue their faith in God with all of the freedoms that He endows his children. The USA was established to aid in the advancement of the Christian faith. By keeping "under God" we are keeping the reason why our country was established.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

In 2002, Congress said so - that means it must be true...
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

This country was founded by people who came here for freedom to worship God. So, ABSOLUTELY NOT! We ARE under God and that is not just my opinion.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

They did come to escape religious persecution, but the also believed tat people should be able to worship any religion. We shouldn't force someone to say "under god."
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

I completely agree with this. Our founding fathers wrote the pledge and it should remain the same, as should our constitution.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

Although the constitution doesn't exactly change, we do have amendments. Why should we keep something one way just because the founding fathers wrote it? We don't live in the past and our laws shouldn't stay in the past. As time goes on things change.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

our founding fathers did not add the phrase under god. look it up.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

wow - always amazed at people's ignorance sometimes (hopefully your post was satirical).here's the 1st step: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pledge_of_Allegiance it was written more than 100 years after the founding of our country by a socialist, and even then it didn't contain "under God" which wasn't done until June 14, 1954
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

"Under God" should definitely be kept in the U.S. Pledge of Allegiance. Country was founded on the belief in God and that he is the almighty ruler no matter what and since 96% of Americans believe in God, why should the believers succumb to the complaints of the extreme minority of non-believers?
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

if they even suggested taking it away some muslim guy would suggest it to be changed into "under allah" or somethingthen before you know it the whole of america is taken over by muslims
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

it was one of the main factors our country was started on and for that reason i think it should be left. it was not made in the intent to offend anyone and so why should people take it to offense. people need to realize that not everything can be exactly how they want it if everything was like that our world would be a shit hole.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

Though it may seem offensive to some to others it may not. Though I am aware that it was not in the original pledge. As said in one of the arguments earlier you have every right to or not to say the pledge. If you do not say the pledge that in my personal opinion does not make you any less loyal to you country. If you do not believe part of the pledge you do not have to say it. Simple as that. In the end what will be will be and we have the right to believe what we believe.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

We should not have that removed because this is a nation under God. He is the one who brought us freedom and got us through slavery he was there for us.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

Dear Atheists,Do you suffer undeniable harm when you say "under God" in the pledges, something that doesn't exist to you? Why should you care? Why remove something that has been in our NATIONAL PLEDGE for over 50 YEARS! Is it really that important? God doesn't even exist to you, so why do you get offended when the word "God" is in our pledge, it doesn't go against your religion, because you don't have one. So removing "under God" is completely unnecessary
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: YES

What is the harm in leaving it out? It's not like anyone is replacing it with "under Vishnu" or whatever. The current wording of the pledge alienates a significant minority. Leaving it out alienates noone. The only arguments for keeping it in are religious ones, which actually strengthens the argument for removal. Perhaps it wasn't added to endorse a specific religion (although I personally don't buy that) but it has certainly been used as an endorsement by those who argue to keep it. Instead of encouraging unity, it drives a wedge between Americans who are religious and those who aren't, although both sides love their country. Removing the phrase creates a pledge that we can ALL stand behind, and that, IMHO, is necessary.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

This country was founded upon Christian beliefs. The men that signed the Declaration of independence was christians. The men that fought in the early american wars was christians.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: Freedom from religion

this nation wasn't founded on religion. It was founded to be a country with freedom from a single religion. And it was founded to be a free nation. Some of the founding fathers, even George Washington was a Diest. Plus, the original pledge didn't have it in it and was written by the founding fathers. If they really wanted it in there, they would off added it when the ink was wet, not in 1953 by a Christian group.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

Why were they put there in the first case? They weren't there until 1954. The US Pledge of Allegiance had no mention of God up to this time.It doesn't matter to me, I'm not a US citizen. However, considering that these words are an affront to many people who hold no belief in God who are US citizens, it makes a mockery of that word "indivisible" which has always been in the Pledge.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

So God in the pledge is not O.K because it is "an affront to many people" and although abortion and gay marriage is an affront to "many' U.S. citizens thats a choice.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

Abortion and gay marriage aren't mentioned in the pledge. Nor should they be. However, the USA is a country that prides itself on many things, including its separation of church and state. To include words that denote a pledge, not only to the country, but also to theism, means that many proud US citizens who aren't theists are placed in the situation where they may have to lie if they wish to recite the pledge. This wasn't the case until recently. As can be shown:Up to 1892 the pledge read “I pledge allegiance to my flag and the republic for which it stands: one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all.” In 1892 it was changed to "I pledge allegiance to my flag and to the republic for which it stands: one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all." (changed text in bold)In 1923 it became "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States and to the republic for which it stands: one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."In 1924 it became "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands; one nation indivisible with liberty and justice for all."In 1954 it was changed to "I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all."Suddenly it went from a secular statement to a religious one.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

My point is that God is an "Affront" to some people so the majority has to give in to them yet on other issues that are affronts to a Majority (I think) its an issue of choice. I say if people have a problem don't say the word but leave it for the rest of us.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

The biggest problem, as I see it, is that it's a violation of the separation of church and state. By keeping it in the pledge, it becomes a government endorsement of religion. That separation of church and state is defined within the First Amendment, isn't it? Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion...The Pledge of Allegiance, i.e. the words you say when pledging your alliance to your nation, establishes and endorses religion and religious faith.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

To begin the " Separation of Church and State" is not a law, it is a phrase used in an editorial in a news paper http://www.foundingfathers.info/federalistpapers/ As for the first amendment;Two clauses in the First Amendment guarantee freedom of religion. The establishment clause prohibits the government from passing legislation to establish an official religion or preferring one religion over another. The issue wasn't the government endorsing religion it was the government endorsing one religion over another. The U.S. was built on a foundation of jewish/Christian values.http://topics.law.cornell.edu/wex/First_amendment
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

So when the Pedge of Allegiance makes specific use of the term "God" in the singular, does this not endorse monotheistic belief over polytheistic belief? Or over non-theistic belief (and yes, some religions are founded upon non-theism)? This seems to me to clearly be the government endorsing one type of belief over another.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

"Freedom of religion" not "freedom from religion"god represents all deities. My feeling is one true god, people just choose to worship this god in different ways, its still the same god. If the pledge mentioned a rock or a tree would that be endorsing a religion? If you don't like it, don't say it.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion is closer to "freedom from religion" than "freedom of religion"one nation under a rock might be apropos apparently.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

It is a clear violation of the separation of church and state. Yet the government still refuses to do anything with it.
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

what is the separation of church and state?............................
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

Thomas Jefferson Jan 1, 1802:Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church & State. Adhering to this expression of the supreme will of the nation in behalf of the rights of conscience, I shall see with sincere satisfaction the progress of those sentiments which tend to restore to man all his natural rights, convinced he has no natural right in opposition to his social duties.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separation_of_church_and_state http://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpre.html
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: No

You prove my point that the "separation of church and state' comes from letters written after the fact not the Constitution.Religion makes only one direct and obvious appearance in the original Constitution that seems to point to a desire for some degree of religious freedom. That appearance is in Article 6, at the end of the third clause:[N]o religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.This statement is simple and straight-forward, and applies to all offices in the entire United States, both state and federal. The clause simply means that no public position can be required to be held by any one of any religious denomination. It would be unconstitutional for there to be a requirement that the President by Lutheran, or even for the mayor of a small town to be Christian. Likewise, it would be unconstitutional for a law to forbid a Jew or Muslim from holding any office in any governmental jurisdiction in the United States.http://www.usconstitution.net/choose.html
Debate: Should "under god" be removed from the pledge?
Side: yes

i think you put too much stock in your "point" - that the words were used after the fact by the guy who inspired the language in the first amendment (http://www.religioustolerance.org/amend_1.htm) in order to explain it, certainly doesn't mean the idea doesn't exist; it is now just used as a shorthand reference to the establishment clause of the first amendment.religion makes a nice big prominent appearance in the Bill of Rights:Congress shall make no law "respecting an establishment of religion" but in 1954 congress passed a law putting "under god" in the US pledge.