Debate: ARE YOU AGAINST SMOKING?
Side: YES

Not really, the smoker isn't blowing the smoke into your face an following you around, if you don't like the smoke than leave, also your property (if you don't want it to be) is smoke free and there are many other areas that are smoke free.If you don't like the smoke, take a few steps back, move away from them or just leave, they aren't rubbing up against you and breathing it in your face, rather than saying that we should ban their right to smoke how about you take a more reasonable route and stand at a distance that doesn't invade their personal space.The problem with liberty and freedom is that they always come at the expense of other liberties and other freedoms. Some people will end up with more liberty at the expense of someone else.And you clearly demonstrate this in regards to the smoking issue. You’ve basically told me that the smoker’s liberty is more important than my liberty to be in a non-toxic environment. It’s me who has to leave, it’s me who has to take a few steps back to make room for the smoker’s habits. It is I who has to let smokers encroach on my freedoms.It’s not the smoker who should leave and smoke somewhere else. Heavens no, it’s the non-smokers who have to put up with it or gtfo. We can’t intrude on a person’s freedom to smoke, so I guess the best thing to do is.. to let them intrude on our freedom to have a non-toxic environment. The job of the state is to protect our freedom, and people would still smoke, today all drugs accept for alcohol and tobacco are illegal and they are VERY (yes, they are everywhere and cheap) plenitful, you can buy drugs anywhere. You wouldn't stop people from smoking you'd just force them to buy it from other sources and smoke it somewhere else. And again, if its unhealthy and they know it, its fine, their choice. Basically, you’re saying that not only will illegalizing smoking not stop it, but it will also encourage drug smuggling and under-the-counter style profiteering. Why do you think murder is declared illegal? It’s not like anti-murder laws actually prevent murder – no they don’t, murder still happens and it happens a lot. Should we then legalize murder because we can’t stop it anyway? No. By keeping it illegal, less murder will be comitted.Illegalizing actions and substances will most certainly decrease the amount of people making and abusing the said actions and substances. Some people are afraid to get on the bad side of the law, some people are afraid of getting on the bad side of criminals, some people simply out of principle do not want to break the law. The amount of people that smoke and drink alchohol – that amount will inescapably decrease.The opposite applies to legalizing for example, drug use. People who were afraid to get on the bad side of the law will no longer have this limitation. Some will try doing drugs and some will stick with them. People who are afraid of getting into trouble through association with smugglers and criminals will no longer have this limitation either. Some people will go and legally try drugs, and some people will develop an addiction to them. And finally, people who don’t do illegal things out of principle will also lose these brakes? Some will try doing drugs and some will stick with them.So yeah, I may not stop people from smoking but I sure as hell will decrease the amount of smokers through illegalizing it. Also, why should the state protect freedoms that affect other people? Just by being in the close proximity of a smoker has bad effects on my health. Yet not once did you imply that it’s the smoker who has to leave, it is I who has to leave. You have no right to take away their liberties cause you don't agree.But a guitar player can take away my liberty to a quiet walk in the park? How come he gets to take away my freedoms because he likes to play his instrument? If your being niave about it, then yes. I don't support murder because that personal choice led to the death of someone else, I don't support rape because it led to the rape of someone else. Using drugs isn't hurting anyone else.But you would support anything else? Like nudism, homosexuality, shooting heroin, self-mutilation etc?Also, are you saying that I can’t for example hire a hitman to kill me? In this case, my death comes with my consent. Who are you to tell me when I can and when I can’t and how I can and how I can’t end my life?Having sex with animals is different because there is a 99.99% chance the animal didn't want to have sex with the human, thus, its rape. As for heroin, again, its illegal but people still do it and its everywhere and when its illegal its not controlled, anyone can buy it and there is not quality control. I'd rather have heroin addicts shoot heroin in an a place where they know what they are taking and if they try to get help they don't have to worry about being thrown in jail.I don’t see how consent from animals is relevant? I mean, everything which we use animals for – you do realize it’s without their consent? Medical tests, food, entertainment – it’s all done without their consent. Why? It’s because for the most part, we don’t treat animals as conscious beings, we treat them as resources – as means to make our lives more comfortable and pleasurable. So yeah, why would a zoophile need consent from an animal in order to have sex with it? Do you ask meat eaters and food corporations whether they got permission from the animals themselves before they killed and ate them lol? I had steak earlier today, I hope whoever killed it got clear consent from the animal. The same applies for my insulin pills. I do hope that animals who were subjected to medical tests and procedures – I hope it was all done with their consent.And with regards to heroin, see above. While you can’t stop junkies, sure, legalizing heroin will do only one thing – create more junkies. It’s patently absurd the notion that legalizing drugs won’t increase the number of users. My argument for this position is above.Sorry about the long post.