azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

A right that must be provided by someone. You said that if they don't want to provide it (regardless of whether or not you can pay) they should quit. This is similar to the car dealer. What gives you the right to force a doctor to provide health care if you can't afford to pay for his service? If you make someone else pay so that the doctor isn't dorced, what gives you the right to take the fruit of another persons labor?
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

My body, my right, my choice. If I don't want to be sick or injured, I don't have to.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Right. But you don't have the right to demand someone else makes you better. Their body and their rights say they don't have to help you.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

I have the right to receive healthcare. This is MY body. .
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

who does having a right to your body in any way make healthcare a right.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

Yes or no: Do I have the right to my body? .
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Of course you have a right to your body, but in no way does this mean you have a right to healthcare.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

You are saying that you have the right to make someone take care of you
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

You are saying that people should be forced to suffer without healthcare.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

no one is forcing you to suffer by deciding not to help you. if health care was a right, people would be forced to help you, that contradicts your notion of rights
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

If I am denied my right to healthcare, I am being forced to suffer.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

If I am denied my right to free money, I am forced to be poor
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

This debate is about healthcare rights. Stay on topic or leave. Healthcare is a right: What say you?
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

It's called "using an analogy". The logic you are using is, as I've pointed out repeatedly now, nonsense.People need to obtain healthcare from a second party, so it involves more than just "owning your body".
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

If you can't pay for health care, you are denying someone else their money when they are forced to alleviate your suffering
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

You conservatives only care about money. It is very fascist of you to say that poor people should not have healthcare. This is MY body. If I want healthcare, that is my right. The poor have the same right to healthcare as the rich.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

How did you receive this right to health care, you claim to have?
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

We get our rights from God. I have the right to my body..
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

If God didn't exist, would you still have any rights?
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Yes. People have rights. .
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Then, besides God, who determines what those rights are?
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Yes. People have rights. .Yes and where do they come from in the case of no god.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

At the core - might makes right(s).In the US, we use democracy as a way to peacefully and (somewhat) equally approximate that might and create a government and laws based on the consent of the governed.Even though people on all sides may disagree with certain actions of the government, the structure of government itself is still largely supported. That support provides the might of the government to govern the rights and responsibilities we have delegated to it.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

The very same statement could be made for a car. Take everything you said and put "car" in place of "healthcare", and then tell me why your argument works for health care but not for a car.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

Strawman. I did NOT say that people should steal cars. You are so dishonest. I said that healthcare is a right.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

I understand. Now what if I said that cars were a right? I could use the same argument about cars. Why is healthcare different?
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

This debate is NOT about cars, it is about healthcare. Stay on topic.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

It's not about cars, but why is healthcare a right, but transportation is not? My position is that a given thing cannot be a right if it requires some positive action from someone else. The required action from someone else infringes on their rights, making the stated right a contradiction. Healthcare cannot be a right for the same reason that cars cannot be a right. Someone else must provide it.Rights are a concept that apply even when you are all alone. You don't have a right to your health when you are all alone.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

This debste is abiout healthcare. Stay on topic. .
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Ok, fine. Healthcare is not a right. Rights that contradict their own concept cannot be considered rights. Since healthcare requires that someone else has to do something for you, it necessarily infringes on others' rights and thus cannot itself be a right. Healthcare is not a right.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Excellent - Very clear explanation.Since healthcare requires that someone else has to do something for you, it necessarily infringes on others' rights and thus cannot itself be a right. The only important assumption your making here is that infringing on each others rights is not itself a right. But if it were a right as well, there would of course effectively be no rights. For atheists then, do agreed upon rights depend on this assumption being true. Hmmm
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

For atheists then, do agreed upon rights depend on this assumption being true. HmmmNo. That actually isn't an assumption, that is necessary for the discussed right to exist. If you want the right to your body you can't have the right to infringe on someone else's body. One right can't exist with the other.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Many types of rights impose obligations on others. For me to have the right of way as a pedestrian in a crosswalk, there is an obligation imposed on others to not run me over, etc.infringing on each others rights is not itself a rightIt is not "infringing" if there is voluntary adherence. The rights and concomitant obligations of citizenship in the U.S. are voluntary. If a person would like to live obligation-free, they can certainly try their luck in Somalia, or some uninhabited isle.----------------------Tangentially, the libertarian utopia of isolated man is actually just physically impossible.If we start with just a right to live, that necessitates the right to breathe, the right to feed myself, etc. which will have an impact on others. Will the crops I plant affect the stability of the soil and runoff? Will the fertilizer I use get in the water supply? Will the pesticides I use impact the local insects? Will my breathing, cutting down trees, raising cattle, etc. increase greenhouse gasses? If I am allowed to hunt freely, (and so are you, and so is everyone,) might the entire population of a given species (and its related ecosystem) be destroyed for not just our own use, but our posterity as well?I think I might agree with people who think this unfortunate, but it is the reality nonetheless.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

Healthcare is a right because people own their bodies. /
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

You own yourself. You can do as you wish with yourself. The same holds true for everyone else. If you as a medical professional, do not want to treat someone else, it is your right to do so. Your rights do NOT extend over or infringe upon the rights of others. As much as you would like for someone else to pay your way in life, it is most defiantly and most clearly not your right to be excused from reality at the expense of others.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Healthcare is a right. I have the right to prevent illness or injury. You tea baggers only care about money.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Healthcare is not a right because doctors own their bodies too and you can't force them to help you
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

Yes it is. My body, my right. If I want to receive healthcare, that is my right. If I don't want to be sick or injured, I have the right to receive healthcare to prevent that.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

That means you have the right to a slave doctor. .
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

Strawman. I never said that I have the right to have slaves. It is NOT slavery to expect people to do their job. If a doctor does not want to do their job, they are free to leave their profession.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Commonly people do their jobs for remuneration. Why or how do you have the right to demand service without remuneration? Do not others have a right to be paid for their work?Do you have a job? Are you willing to do it for nothing? Get real!
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

This is my body. I have the right to prevent illness or injury. .
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Go ahead. Exercise, eat healthy, avoid things that can harm your health, meditate, hell levitate if you want to, but repeating the same nonsense over and over in the face of reasoned rebuttal does not add a gram. of validity to your thoroughly discredited claim.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

If I am sick or injured, I have the right to receive healthcare. My body, my right.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

In the US you have the de facto right to emergency healthcare, most especially if your life is threatened by your illness or injury. You do not have the right to expect this emergency treatment for free. That's the way it is here. Where your island stands on this issue is yours to deal with. You have been offered numerous examples and explanations as to the invalid nature of your claim, which you have avoided addressing directly. You have taken a loosing argument, with no basis in reason except your continued reassertion of your baseless claim. If you persist in restating your claim with nothing to support it other than "its my right because its my body", you will only dig yourself deeper into an indefensible position. OKYour turn now, so repeat your pointless phrase again ...............All together now "its my right becau----------------Oh please
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Like I said, healthcare is a right because people own their bodies. The prevention of illness and injury is a right.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

All right we have had enough of that crap. We are taking up a collection to buy your body, so you'll stop saying "its my body" So how much do you want for the damn thing anyway, just to shut you up?
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

Freedom of speech. I have the right to say and do whatever I want. Healthcare is a right because people own their bodies. My body, my right. I have the right to prevent illness or injury.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Absolutely correct. You do have the right to your opinion and you have the right to express it as well. You also have the right to be wrong, and when you are wrong about your rights, you have the right to expect your wrongness to be rightly challenged. Am I wrong?
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

You have no proof that I am wrong. Healthcare is a right because people own their bodiesbodies.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

It is NOT slavery to expect people to do their jobIt IS slavery to expect people to do their jobs without pay. If healthcare was a right, you could demand this. But it's not and you can't.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

Even if you aren't able to pay, a hospital must provide care. (In most circumstances they can't even check whether you would be able to pay before providing the service.)
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

There is an important distinction between a right and a privilege. A right is a moral concept that a person can be conceived of having in a state of nature. Government protects our rights and provides certain privileges. Arguing that healthcare should be a privilege provided by the government is an argument about the appropriate level of government in our lives. But arguing that healthcare is a right is a confusion that leads to more than just doctors keeping their Hippocratic oath. If healthcare is a right, that would mean you should exercise your right and just take the migraine medicine from the store. Doctors must just provided it to you, as a natural matter of course because it's your right, like your right to liberty. No, healthcare is not a right. If you want to argue that healthcare should be provided by taxpayers or other patients, fine. But confusing concepts that are the foundation of modern political philosophy has always been a step in the wrong direction. I can explain all this to you, but LibProlifer wouldn't understand this argument.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

There is an important distinction between a right and a privilege. A right is a moral concept that a person can be conceived of having in a state of nature. Government protects our rights and provides certain privileges.On a technical note, a privilege is actually more qualified (applies only to a subset of the population). The right you are describing is referred to as a "natural right" - and, as I mention here, I am not claiming any natural rights (unless you consider this to qualify). The right that I contend exists (in the US), is a "legal right" (see here).Doctors must just provided it to you, as a natural matter of course because it's your right, like your right to liberty.Hospitals are required to provide you with emergency care regardless of ability to pay.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

There you go again putting money before people. What if someone is unable to afford healthcare?
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

If someone is unable to afford healthcare, then you enslave the doctor and make them provide it. Just like when they had a right to cotton in the old south. After all, we don't want to put money before people.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

Yes or no" Should somronr who is unable to pay for healthcare have it anyway?
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Thank you for being reasonable. I respect that. It sounds like you know a lot about healthcare. :)
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

I worked IT for a hospital group for a while and picked up a lot there- not medical procedures themselves, obviously, but a lot of the logistical stuff. My wife also works in the medical field and I get bits and pieces of it there. A ton of stuff is going on 'under the hood' with the medical industry. Many of the criticisms against our medical industry are well-founded despite this, but I can't help but feel that a number of others are based on being ignorant of just how much is going on 'under the hood' to keep it all working.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

That is awesome. No wonder you are so smart. Medical people rock. :)
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Realistically, the choice is - require doctors (, et al.) to provide the service and allow them to shift the cost of any portion of the care that goes uncompensated to other consumers, or- death, of course.This is also just more practical procedure in an emergency care situation where waiting to verify ability to pay may itself have deleterious impacts.People from both sides tend to be far more focused on their ideal government than the pragmatic one.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

A doctor's place is to provide healthcare. If they are unwilling to do that, they are free to leave their practice.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

So their choice is to help you or be fired. What if they say "pay my fee or I wont help"?..you fire them?
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

A doctor's place is to provide healthcare. They are free to leave iuf they don't want to do that.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Should they say "pay my fee or I wont help" to a person having a heart attack, or who is unconscious?you fire them?You sue the hospital (the hospital might fire the doctor.) The hospital would be civilly liable, be subject to fines, and the hospital and/or physician may loose their provider agreement with Medicare.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

If healthcare is a right, the hospital would have to help you regardless of what your illness is. I hardly think you could sue a hospital who refused to give you some minor pain killer for some minor non-threatening injury if you refused to pay for the medicine. I guess I could be wrong about that, but it would be a frivolous lawsuit. Either way, I explain my position in my other reply to you.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

The issue is whether "healthcare" in the debate means some healthcare or all healthcare. Since all healthcare would intrinsically be untenable, if not ambiguous to the point of meaninglessness, I think we are left with using some healthcare. Therefore, as I mention here and here, my claim is only that we have made some healthcare a legal right in the US.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

This is a strawman. Amarel didn't say anything about stealing a car.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

Yes he did. He mentioned cars. .
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

STEALING. You added the word stealing. Huge difference.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

He is off topic and creating a strawman. This debate is not about cars. It is about healthcare. STAY ON TOPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

The answer to one question is yes, and the answer to the other question is no. Why is that? People need to get places, people need to be healthy. The topic is about what essential things should be a right.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

This debate is about healthcare, not cars. Stay on topic. .
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

This debate is about rights. Still part of the topic.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

This debate is about whether healthcare is a right or not. Stay on topic or leave.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

No thanks.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

Stay on topic or leave. .
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

I will stay here but avoid the topic. :) But, I will also spend time elsewhere.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

This debate is about healthcare rights. What do you have to say about that?
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

You don't care about healthcare rights, and I am not leaving. I like it here. It is like a warm blanket. Warm blankets should be a right.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

Yes I do care about healthcare rights. You don't get to dictate what I do or don't believe. What do you have to say about healthcare rights?
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

I think you should give your opinion on car rights in my debate. Plus, I think I am better able to dictate what you believe better than you since you change your mind so frequently.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

What do you have to say about healthcare rights? .
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

I think pets are needed to pursue happiness. Pets should be a right.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

Do you have anything to say about healthcare rights? /
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

Yes. Video games are nice. Those should be a right.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Nothing to say about healthcare? .
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

Of course I do. We should have the right to be 7 feet tall. Short people aren't as happy.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

You are off topic again. What do you have to say about healthcare?
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

What are you talking about? Being 7 feet tall is a part of healthcare. It is my body, I should have the right to do what I want.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

I see you trolling, you hating, I see you trolling cuz yo mind is dirty! ;)
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

It is weird that you would think that argument is trolling.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Poe's Law? .
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

It started that way, but I realize that it is just as valid as your argument and I see it as a real argument.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Potassium. You have the right to your opinion. .
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

Of course I do. Do you think there is anything wrong with what I said?
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

Why would you stop at video games? What about my right to a house, a job, a car...I'm pretty sure that under FDR, the list goes on.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

I think he promised chicken and pot. Good guy
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Do pets have a right to healthcare too. Because if they do, you could put them in that free car and drive them to the free vet to exercise their rights, right?
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

Sure, sign them up. :)
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

He said: A car dealership is there to provide people with essential transportation. If I go there wanting a car that I can't pay for, should the dealer quit because he didn't give me a car?
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Yes, none of that has to do with stealing. Below is why it isn't a strawman:A hospital is there to provide people with essential healthcare. If I go there wanting healthcare that I can't pay for, should the doctor quit because he didn't give me healthcare?
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

He brought up cars when this debate is about healthcare. You both need to stay on topic and debate the facts.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Brought up another possible right. That is half the topic.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Hey, I moved it to a better place. You can finally answer the question.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

No hard feelings mate,but as far as you are concerned ,let me ask you this if poor,unemployed blokes form the bulk of your locality and you are the administrator how would you provide the doctors their funds unless you draw someone from the injured?Certainly you are not going to give from your purse.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

It isn't a strawman, you never actually made the argument you claim to have made.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

Again you're starting with this shit of not understanding anything then going on the offensive with catchphrases. Why don't you address his point?
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

While you raise a valid point regarding the practicality of enforcing healthcare as a right, that argument may have limited application with regards to whether or not healthcare is our should be a right. This is particularly true under a universal or natural rights theory, whereby rights are effectively inherent to the existence of people regardless of whether or not they are protected or recognized by existing legal and social structures. There is a possibility that healthcare could be a right, that a given government does not secure that right for whatever reason, and even that the government may not be held to fault for not securing that right.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: No.

If you believe that, you'd believe horse balls are lemons.
Debate: Is healthcare a right?
Side: Yes.

Strawman. That is not true. ..