azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

I have read economic books, textbook and leisure. My favorite is Free to Choose by Milton Friedman. Sorry I guess that I don't have a PhD in economics like you do. What hole? You are in the hole.Since you are an expert on economic bubbles, please grant me your expertise on what a bubble is.Oh wait. I already know. An economic bubble is commonly used term to describe an economic or business cycle that is best characterized by the rapid expansion followed by the contraction in a economy often times in dramatic fashion. I am pretty sure that I said that before because I explained it in a previous statement. "Economic trough is consequence of a business cycle after there was a peak in expansion. Many areas of the nation experienced double-digit-percent declines in house prices where they peaked in expansion and dipped to a trough in contraction."Pin me down. OK, I can handle it.Medicare. Sure. I don't want to see your grandmother die because no insurance.Medicaid on the other hand. No. Able people, they should pay for their own health insurance. I shouldn't have to pay so they can be subsidized at discounted rates.Regulatory Institutions. You said, Remember TARP? That thing everyone went ballistic over when it was passed before Obama took office to prevent the total implosion of the financial sector? Financial regulations on Wall Street is the government telling people what they can do with their money and how they chose to invest or gamble.If you believe that your tax rates are too low, then write OUT A CHECK FOR MORE MONEY. The IRS WOULD GLADLY ACCEPT THAT MONEY. Tax laws are only what is minimally required to pay. There is no maximum.Social Security includes unemployment benefits. So, if the government didn't tax our wages for unemployment benefits, that extra money people earn without the tax, they could save that money instead getting unemployment benefits if they are unemployed. As for veterans and disabilities, sure they are entitled to social security. They both earned it. we DO actually have to pay for things we ask the government to provide that is why we have a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit and a 12 trillion dollar debt. Yeah, I guess we do pay things we ask for the government.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

Now you're just becoming incoherent.First of all, you do realize that you can't "peak to a trough"?What the heck does a person being "able" have to do with their ability to afford health insurance? Can I pay for health insurance with my health now?I'm at a complete loss to figure out what the heck you're talking about on TARP and regulation, I've tried to get through that little paragraph 6 times and cannot make it from beginning to end without getting completely lost. Somehow, from the best I'm able to peice it together... my knowing that it was necessary to spend a lot of money to prevent the fallout of a too-deregulated financial sector exploding on itself means I like having too-deregulated financial systems... which therefore contradicts my statement that the financial sector needs to be regulated???I believe most people's tax rates are too low. .. as for the rest of what you wrote after that... huh?And unemployed people should save more money. Ummm... ok? Really, I'm having difficulty extracting any rational line of thought from what you're writing at this point.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

Well, I edited it so that it is even more coherent. I was in a hurry at the time.--------------
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

I agree, by the way could you please rate up on my comment below this? I want to get back to a 100% efficiency.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

You can't, once 100% is gone it's gone forever... unless they possibly round up some fractions and you can get above 99.5. But even if they do you'll need to make a lot more posts without down votes to get there.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

I gave you a charity upvote, you really didn't say much but I agree with you.But even 90% is an impossibility if you plan on contributing in any significant way, check the leader boards. Percentage naturally drops with more arguments and even the best debaters stay around the mid 80s after X number of points.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

I think he's doing a good job, I think the Health Care Bill was good because it allowed health care access to the not-so-well-off people.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

I don't think that the helthcare reform was good because we already have a bad economy, so this will make our younger genarashons have to pay it off.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

Pay what off? It's a deficit REDUCING plan as scored by the CBO. This is making them have to pay off less.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

Imagine a three child, out of work family that lives in poverty. Now imagine if one of the children got a life threatening disease and needed treatment. They are to poor for health care, Obama's Health Care plan will save that young child's life.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

But people who already have health care are paying for this end then they will start becoming poor (just a thought).
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

As I said before, 10% of Americans pay 90% of the taxes. The wealthy will not become poor, they simply have so much money.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

What about the people who not rich who are in financial trouble and have healthcare.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

They will gain money because they would not have to pay for Health Care anymore.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

Ya. But do you want to be the one paying for heath care for tons of people? And Obama has messed up so bad, that with in the first month he was in office, we could have thrown him out. And than we would kinda have a Coup D'etat.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

Well, 10% of the population pay 90% of the taxes, my mother and step-dad are each part of that 10% and they are all for the Health Care bill. So is Bill Gates and Warren Buffet, the two richest men in America think they should be paying more in taxes.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

Nobody is stopping Gates and Buffett to pay more in taxes. The IRS would love a big fat check.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

They will say no they don't want to. ANd the tax rate is going to go way up when out genarashon starts to pay taxs because of everything Obama has doen with our money. I personly think he could have thought of a better way to spend our money that is not waist full, or that the younger people will have to pay off. Obama should have not won.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

If Obama didn't win, think about McCain (shudders). Then even worse, if he died and Palin became president...
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

I like McCain better than Obama. I think that Ron would be the beast out of them all though. And I do not think that McCain would die during the 2 year term. Maybe if he went for another 2 years, but I don't think he would have died.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

The President serves 4 year terms, not 2 year terms. Ron Paul is racist and against gay people. He would never have a chance at presidency.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

Rave, you seem to know about as much about the Healthcare Bill as you do grammar.This bill will decrease the national debt by half a trillion over ten years. It's good for the economy.You see, uninsured people currently only have the option of going to an emergency room when very sick. This bill insures the uninsured, meaning that hospital visit will no longer be taken care of by tax payers. Next, insured people are more likely to see a doctor, which in turn leads to people catching diseases like cancer before they are life-threatening, and before they cost hundreds of thousands to treat. Which again saves money.Then there is the whole human life thing. We are the only Western nation without some kind of Universal Healthcare, and we have the worst overall healthcare in the western world and we pay the most for that crappy healthcare. linkYou sound very uninformed. Maybe you're young. Try doing some research and don't listen to everything you hear on Faux News or you'll end up a bitter misinformed old man like Joe.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

I am sorry that you find the grammar of a 13 year old bad. At least I know what I am talking about and I have a say about this. My teacher put us on this site the same day as my friend told me about it. So sorry for saying what I have learned in my school. And maybe you should go learn a little bite about this.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

Your age and poor grammar aside, you haven't addressed my argument.I explained why you are wrong, and you have not provided any evidence to the contrary.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

Well, I am simply just telling you what are youth is learning at my school. So if this info is false, take it up with the schools.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

Sure, give me the school and the name of you the teacher who gave you this false information. I'll write a letter to the school board. Opinions are for pundits, schools should deal with facts - and yours obviously is not.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

I support you David, but America has the best hospitals and doctors in the world, I'm just saying.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

I don't vote, but I would probably support Obama in 2012. Unless a better candidate comes up, and looking at the republican party history the last decade or so, it doesn't fill me with confidence.Besides, Obama makes the crazies scream and cry, and nothing gives me a greater smile than reading the comments of nutjobs who think Jesus is coming soon because Obama is the antichrist, and their dismay at insurance reform.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

Yes.I just love the fact that there's somebody mixed race heading a racist country.For that one reason I would vote for him.If he does well for the country - good on him and maybe people will realise it.If he turns America into a hell hole - good on him... I hate Americunts :)
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

What do you have against American's? 1. We are not a racist country, unlike Australia.2. We beat the Japanese, and helped beat Germany. 3. Our scientists have discovered so much that has benefitted other countries. 4. We are huge product consumers, without us the world's economy would be even worse.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

What does anybody have against America??? The list would go on forever. Give me one nation that doesn't hate/dislike America.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

England, France and most other part of Europe. America helped them in WWII, without us, (I'm not saying it was only America) the Axis might have won WWII.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

Being american, I was very happy to read that. No one directly talks about how bad americans can be in this country, partly due to our self-richeousness. Thank you!
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

It is now 2015 and I am glad that I was of the voting majority who re-elected Barack Obama.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

Hell no! His policies are crap and I can't wait for the courts to overturn his health care bill crap ;)
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

There's no presidence of overthrowing the Healthcare Bill.And I'm still trying to figure out why you are against something that will gaurantee even your coverage if say you're fired, that will force insurance to spend at least 85% of what you pay into it for healthcare (instead of new yachts etc) and will lower our national debt by half a trillion dollars over the next 10 years.It is truly senseless. I'm not sure how many times I can explain this to you.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

Why they are calling this bill health care reform instead of health insurance is reform is confusing when they attack health insurance companies?The most logical thing for anyone is to drop their policy or if uninsured, remain uninsured, and pay $750/year penalties until you finally get sick, then anyone can buy health insurance since there are no pre-existing conditions. It'll be like avoiding homeowners insurance to save money, then buying some once your house is on fire because the insurance company is forced to sell you the policy.Sweet, I can be irresponsible and still get health insurance.THANK YOU, OBAMA!!
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

Oh look, you're still making this ridiculous argument.Yes, please do folow your genius plan. Hand the system your free money while receiving zero benefits, then cross your fingers and hope your serious ruinously expensive medical emergency calls ahead and makes reservations with you so you can go get insurance before it hits and you don't bankrupt your entire family.The rest of us will put all those dollars you're handing us to good use, promise. Unfortunately we cannot promise to give them back to you to pay your hospital bill when you wake up there and wonder if it's too late to get insurance to pay the bill they're handing you... and good luck finding any insurance policy that kicks in retro-actively.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

It is time to settle down, and agree to disagree that on health care. Because there are people my side of ideas as well as your side of ideas.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

Since when is that a reason to declare an issue at an impasse? FYI, there are people on both sides of EVERY idea. Hence... debate. What's the name of this site again?
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

1. Paying 750 per year is more than the uninsured are putting into the system now, so it is better.2. The fact is, people without insurance have a 45% higher chance of dying earlier because they don't have insurance. Just about everyone wants insurance, again, it is not an issue of "personal freedom" and if you've let the trillion dollar insurance industry trick you into thinking that you've been duped.3. It's absolutely nothing like your example of homeowners insurance, and I think you know that. As you keep complaining the situation is more like making homeowner insurance mandatory for everyone, thus lowering the cost for everyone, thus if the house does catch on fire your life isn't ruined and you do not become a burden on society.4. I find the assumption that only the "irresponsible" don't have insurance very offensive. The vast majority of the uninsured work full time jobs but cannot afford it.5. Only the healthy think their insurance is any good. There is a very high possibility that before this bill was passed, if you were seriously ill your insurance would have found a reason not to cover or to only cover a portion. It happens/ did happen all of the time.6. The number one cause of bankruptcy is illness. The majority of these people who go bankrupt thought they had good insurance until they got sick. This is a huge burden on our economy, and now it won't be.7. Again, like I've explained to Joe a hundred times, the only way your insurance is going to change if you are already insured is it will be less expensive, you will get rebates if 85% of the money you pay hasn't been used for health reasons, and your insurance won't be allowed to look for ways to not cover you because of "pre-existing" conditions.All this fear rhetoric running amok, I haven't seen a single piece of evidence any of it is founded.In fact, every other country that has some type of Universal care has better healthcare than the US and they pay less for it.There is no real life example that says otherwise.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

1. Sure, I think that everyone is entitled to affordable health care insurance, but insurance mandates and government subsidies are not going to work. The transfer of wealth never works. Those who already pay for insurance shouldn't have to pay twice for insurance, once for ourselves and twice for others at discounted rates. Truthfully, how much of your paycheck are you willing to give up so others can have the same insurance as you but cheaper?2. Only the healthy think their insurance is good. This is true because they never used it. That is hard to argue.3. Sure, I am aware of bankruptcy dilemma. But again eliminating pre-existing conditions, life limits and etc are not going to change things. Many companies have already said that they will have to raise rates if everyone has to be covered for everything and insurance mandates will only force those with policies to pay even more.4. Not covering because of pre-existing conditions is unfair, but no matter what either public or private care, there will always be health care rationing. It is unavoidable. Both will cut corners in order to save money.5. What fear rhetoric? There is no guarantee that this health care bill is going to work, and the bill is going to cost 1.05 trillion dollars and that is the nominal price tag.[1]
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

Well, for the most part, I can see your argument and agree with most of it yet except these points.1. Not that I support the Iraq War or for that matter any war, but the Iraq War and the Afghanistan War has only cost 900 billion to 1.1 trillion depending who we are asking and not in one year. [1]2. Keeping the price tag between the 1.05 and 1.5 trillion dollar price tag is going to be very difficult considering that the CBO suggested that after 2020, this health care insurance will be very difficult to sustain.3. With all the regulations such as forcing insurance companies to spend 85% of the money on benefits, and if they don't, they lose their license. What incentives do insurance companies have to stay in business? So, are you a advocate of single payer? I am not against it but I believe is that in health care, it has to be all government or no government.4 . You may have convinced me of the need for a mandate, but cleanliness mandates are different than purchase mandates. Everybody wants a clean hospital. But enforcing people to purchase insurance is a breach of commerce and government interference, and may be unconstitutional under the interstate commerce clause, "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes."5. Lastly, there is a lot a about insurance and restructuring insurance companies, yet health care reform is the goal. Should it be health insurance reform? Health care is provided by doctors and etc. Insurance companies are financial arm.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

Well, at least you aren't arguing with a tin foil hat like most opponents, but I still think you're wrong.1 + 2. Blah, I moved a decimal, you're right. I feel that they cost just as much is as solid a point as the wars costing more, either way it's more wasteful imo.Plus, again, we won't know for a few years, but every country that has done something similar actually pays less for healthcare, than the US link - scroll down to see a chart, you'll be amazed. I think there is something lost in our translation following the money trail, much of that cost isn't an increase, it's a shift into where the money is coming from and how it is tracked. ie, today when one without insurance goes to the emergency room it is not a cost but a debt. A large part of the 1-1.5 trillion cost represents that shift. We're paying for emergency room visits now anyway in other words, we just don't count it. Either way we're indebted to China, but that's another issue entirely and I don't believe this will effect that long term one way or another.3. As a matter of fact, I think a Medicare for all system would be the most cost-effective route. As for incentive to stay in business, link - they'll still be the second richest people in the land next to banks even with new regulations.4. Well, the problem with claiming that it is somehow illegal to mandate purchasing healthcare is that you can use the same logic that you use for "everyone wants a clean hospital." In that "everyone wants to go to the doctor when they are sick." Again, the problem is a lack of imagination on the part of the healthy I think. The fact is, just as many people, when sick, want insurance as want a clean hospital I would argue. If approached as a mandate for private consumption, as in say "it is the law of the land you buy candy" sure, unconstitutional as hell. However, they will take the taxation approach I believe. Like roads, doctors and hospitals are a a privilege afforded all citizens, as such, like roads, paid for by all citizens.5. Yes, it should be health insurance reform. The left wing absolutely sucks and naming stuff.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

Well..., I guess we'll have to create a residence.But I still don't get that argument about spending money to make money. Oh well..., leave it to a liberal to make sense of the senseless ;)
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

You can always tell the kids on CD with no mortgage and no responsibility and they love his policies! The policies are killing me!
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

Hi there. 32 year old married guy with a 300k mortgage speaking. His policies are excellent compared to the alternatives. And I'd be fascinated to know how, specifically, they're "killing you".
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

I do not think Obama should be president in '12 because he's making all these promises and yet he has not fulfilled any of them! Lots of people who voted for him our now just realizing that maybe his isn't so good after all. The major #1 reason he became president was because most people voted for him because he was going to be the first black president (not being racist). I think could tons of black people who could run for president and do a way better job then Obama is doing.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

Actually whats amazing is that's not why he is president, people liked his policies.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

Most people not do not like some of his policies i repeat do not like some of his policies!
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

Not all people obviously as the some people are actually changing there views.