azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Abnormal

It was easy to misunderstand, your arguments are not based on any form of reality apart from what obviously exists in your own little world not on the real world and you brought up the subject of religion before this religion had not even been mentioned.Instead of saying I am wrong give me evidence showing me wrong or logic that I am wrong. You can't...About religion, I simply said where I mainly encountered that certain something. You wanted to begin discussing religion further, not me.Anyway i've had enough of going round in circles with you it's been fun but is now getting boringI know exactly what you mean...
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

Basically, human action is based on rationality whereas animal action is based on instinct.It's not based solely on rationality. And I don't think Jean Paul Startre would even submit that it were, appeal to authority falacy aside.There is something of a point to what you say:Therefore, rationality in human action allows for choice while instinct in animals action is inherent inclinations.Only if you are defining homosexuality only as the act and not the desire. This is incorrect though and I've had this argument with you before. Not sure why you are still making the same mistake.For example, eating is a desire. I, as a rational person can decide not to, sure. People have knowingly and arguably for rational reasons, literally starved themselves.However, the desire to eat does not go away. Ergo, homosexuality, the desire, is not rational or irrational, it is instinctual. It is normal for humans to have instincts, like eating and sex. Apollo gives examples highlighting many animals have a similar instinct as well.The desire is normal than, it can be said of a certain percent of our species.So then your argument would need to be that it is not normal to try to act on a desire that is natural.I don't believe that is a position you would take.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Abnormal

Not sure why you are still making the same mistake.Whatever!! Not sure why you are still an moron. Statements like these are just pointless.For example, eating is a desire. I, as a rational person can decide not to, sure. People have knowingly and arguably for rational reasons, literally starved themselves.How can you define desire anyway? You can't because every human is different, so human action shows different choices made. Eating is not a desire, it is an act as you even demonstrated in your own example. Since people knowingly starved themselves, it is proof that eating is human action; therefore, human action is merely how a man must act if he wants to attain definite end if even it is not eating.However, the desire to eat does not go awayActually, the act of eating does go away, which is the time in between meals unlike our friends, dogs. Dogs will eat constantly because there is not act of eating, dogs and many animals have an indefinite end, which means that it is instinctual to keep eating as along as it is there.The same goes for sexual orientation. It is not instinctual.Apollo gives examples highlighting many animals have a similar instinct as well.Wrong, Everything humans do is based on choice, which means human action.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

Perhaps he shouldn't have said eating is a desire, because obviously as both you and he point out, it is an action. What he should have said is hunger is a desire which precedes and leads to eating (or even just a desire to eat can lead to eating, not necessarily hunger). The action of choosing to eat or not to eat, as you say, is a choice that we may make. However, we cannot control whether or not we wish to eat, the desire part of this chain of events. This is the instinctual part I believe iamdavidh was referring to."Dogs will eat constantly because there is not act of eating, dogs and many animals have an indefinite end, which means that it is instinctual to keep eating as along as it is there."I hardly think this is true. I have personally seen my dog, cat, bird, other birds, raccoon, and a multitude of other animals not eat even when there is food present. To say that humans are the only "rational" beings (if we go by your definition of "rational" which seems to be the ability to enact choices to achieve some end, which I personally disagree with) would be patently false then."The same goes for sexual orientation. It is not instinctual."And for the same reasons I demonstrated above, sexual orientation would be a desire, and would therefore be instinctual, same as hunger as opposed to eating."Wrong, Everything humans do is based on choice, which means human action."Even this is false. You cannot force yourself to not breath, to not make your heartbeat (short of wounding it), or stop your brain from using electrochemical signals to process and create thoughts (short of, again, wounding it). If you wish to take action against your various bodily functions, those would be choices, but the pre-existing nature of your heart, brain, and lungs would not have arisen through choice. That is, unless I suppose before each thought, breath, and heartbeat you make the conscious choice not to kill yourself... ;)
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Abnormal

What he should have said is hunger is a desire which precedes and leads to eating (or even just a desire to eat can lead to eating, not necessarily hunger).Hunger is just the same as eating. Food doesn't appear out of nowhere. It is not magic. Man just doesn't think about food, and it appears. If man is hungry, he must act on that end. If food appeared out of nowhere, I could agree that hunger or eating is a desire. If man chooses not to act on his end of hunger, he remains hungry.This is the instinctual part I believe iamdavidh was referring to.From what I read, nope.I hardly think this is true. I have personally seen my dog, cat, bird, other birds, raccoon, and a multitude of other animals not eat even when there is food present. Well, I have seen the opposite, my dog and cat will literally eat anything in front it if it resembles food. The cat will even lick the ear wax out of my ear.To say that humans are the only "rational" beings would be patently false then.Really, Name one thing that someone would do that is not rational in one day. Humans are subjected to hundreds of decisions each day if not more. You cannot force yourself to not breath, to not make your heartbeat (short of wounding it), or stop your brain from using electrochemical signals to process and create thoughts (short of, again, wounding it).Actually, you can force yourself to not to breath by holding it. Painful, it is a choice. Wounding your heart or brain is still a choice involving human action, which would stop both.If you wish to take action against your various bodily functions, those would be choices, but the pre-existing nature of your heart, brain, and lungs would not have arisen through choiceSure, the pre-existing nature of the lungs, brain and heart have no choice, but human action involves choice due to rationality, and the act of choosing bodily harm is a choice. Again, everything humans do is a choice.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Abnormal

I have three dogs, and they all try to hump each other interchangeably, but this doesn't mean they're gay. First of all, they never actually engage, I don't even think they know how. Second, they're just playing a dominance game, it may derive from actual sex, but the meaning has changed. I wouldn't be surprised that many of the example you give fall into the same category. I don't think you can look at behaviors that we, as humans, might categorize as gay, and apply that same rule to animals.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Abnormal

Argumentum ad populum
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

What do I think of homosexuals and homosexuality? Nothing that I don't think of heterosexuals and heterosexuality.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

Pretty apathetic actually... I'm cool with everyone doin' who or whatever they want as long as it doesn't negatively effect me... and I don't see how this would?
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

Exactly. I really don't understand homophobes. I can't see how homosexuals cause harm or even affect someone's life.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

That's because they don't. Some people in society are just totally ignorant and disrespectful:)
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

they are just like any average human on earth. you wont call christains or atheist abnormal because its not in nature to such beliefs(to some being an atheist is abnormal and to others being christain or any other religion is abnormal)would you?
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

We have reached a point in time where modernisation is shooting up like never before. Personally i believe that we should remain normal to these circumstances. It is written in the Bible tht everyone is born equal , so why not respect this? Let us show to homosexuals the respect they deserve because we are living in a free world these days. Why judge people and botherv about what others are doing.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

I like homosexuals.I'm indifferent about homosexuality because it doesn't affect me.I totally hate the gay marriage debate. ;)
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

A great many of my friends are either homosexuals or bisexuals so I don't think anything in particular about either orientation.I am angered by claims that homosexuality is a lifestyle choice, as opposed to something with which one is born. If that is so then why have so many turned to suicide by means of escaping the ordeal that is "coming out" to their family, friends and others? On an alternative note, however, I agree that there are cases in which individuals claim to be a particular sexual orientation in order to gain favour amongst people. It's sad, but true.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

Completely normal. Considering homosexuality is found within 315 - 485 different animal species, including the domestic cat and the domestic dog, it's completely normal.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

My own freaking cats are homosexuals. They try to fk each other though the are neutered and male, and they lick each other and spend alot of time together. It's normal. Everyone's entitled to their life.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

It is normal. It is normal to me, it is normal to the sperm whales, it is normal to the gay community. It's something common in the world. Well-known, but unfortunately, not accepted like any other difference in taste. You don't see people who listen to hip-hop tormenting others who listen to punk. People who like chocolate ice cream don't pick on people who like vanilla. So why is it such a big fucking deal that there's people in the world that like something different. Or rather, the same sex. So, yes. It is absolutely normal.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

I think they're exactly the sane as us, 'cause, y'know... They ARE exactly like heterosexuals, minus the sexual preference of course. Basically they are no better or worse than you or I, if you think otherwise you're a bloody idiot.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

If it was unnatural, it wouldn't exist.Several species on earth, I'm not going to mention any because Apollo already did a great job, do homosexual acts.Not being able to reproduce is not a valid argument against homosexuality, unless you're also against women who reached menopause having sex, or women who simply are just .. unable do carry children.Also you'd have to be against all protection, like condoms and the pill.Sex is two things.Reproduction and pleasure. Sex is NOT just reproduction, if it was, then we wouldn't have had any pleasure during the act.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

Before Christianity men loved other men and women loved other women. There were fables that explained homosexuality in the ancient world, because people realized that it was completely normal for human beings. The only reason anyone doubts its natural place is because of the teachings of it in Christianity. Since Christian ideology is so much a part of America's backbone, it is natural that its values be indirectly passed to its population and others of Christian surrounding.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

I don't really care what people do in their own homes, and regardless of whether it's right or wrong, homosexuals have as much right to be happy as anyone. Christians make a big deal about how the bible says homosexuality is bad, but it also says to let those who are without sin throw the first stone, to treat others as you would have them treat you, and has the parable of the Good Samaritan, in which someone who was a member of a supposedly not so good tribe went out of his way to help someone else.Regardless of whether you think homosexuality is good/bad or normal/abnormal, you should still treat them with respect. Maybe homosexuality is bad, but a homosexual could still be someone who would risk his life to save a child, or do some other noble deed. He may still be an overall good person, and may just be flawed in a different way than you or I.I consider myself pretty tolerant of homosexuals in general, and I've had gay and lesbian friends in the past, but it still feels a little icky when I see two men making out. People make a big deal over whether or not a person is born homosexual or whether or not they choose it, but I never hear anyone talk about the whether or not the revulsion that many straight people feel when confronted with gays is something they're born with, or if they choose it.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

You're 100% right. People don't need to support homosexuality, but they must respect it. Besides, I'll never understand homophobes. I really can't see how homosexuals affect them. And yeah, I know that most heterosexuals thinks disgusting homosexual acts (at least between two men). And, as well as they have to respect homosexuals, I think that homosexuals should respect them. If a person don't like to see it, don't do it in front of him/her. Of course, unless it's a public space. If it's public, anyone can do anything that don't break the law.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

If America is all about free religion and beliefs, why do we base laws and logic in this faith, because the bible condemns homosexuality many hate these people, i thought this was a "live and let live country" but its not, and has never been, i have nothing against these individuals, but they will never be accepted as long as faith makes the laws
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

Think you've hit the nail on the head because Americans have been banging on about the Country being Land Of The Free, Home Of The Brave for so long a lot of people now believe it not realising that Americans have less Free Speech and Rights than a lot of other Countries, in a way the War Of Independence backfired spectacularly the Americans fought off the tyranny of Britain but now have less freedoms than the British.I just thought I would point out that this is not a dig at America or the Americans and is not intended to upset anyone it's just my views from what I have seen and read etc
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

From a pure biological view point, the purpose of sex is to reproduce the species. But can we agree to be real with each other? Animals fuck to breed. People fuck because we like it. There's not a lot of people who can HONESTLY say that the have sex for EXPRESS purpose of having children. Even proper heterosexual Christian couples, if they are being honest, aren't planning on having kids every time they fuck. So, let's just call it what it is: A BEHAVIOR. So, people choosing to have sex because they like it is quite normal. When are we going to get past all of these nonsensical labels and admit that there is no gay or strait. No one is 100% strait. No one is 100% gay. We all have a little bit of the other in us. If you haven't found it, you haven't looked hard enough.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

I don't know if you know that this is scientific proved. Bu it is. A biologist named Alfred Kinsey created the Kinsey Scale, which classify humans in a scale 0-6, being 0 exclusively heterosexual and 6 exclusively homosexual. And he also says that 11,6% of white males people are with 3 in the scale (bisexual) when they are on the age 20-35. And a few people are on the scale 0 or 6. Most are in 1-2 (when heterosexual) or 4-5 (when homosexual).
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

I think homosexuality is normal, it is natural and there is nothing wrong with being gay. There is a certain amount of taboo that surrounds the idea of homosexuality but that is because (I think) people are scared of what they don't know and what they can't fully explain.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

Are mental diseases, coughs, genetic disorders, tumors, personality disorders, mental disorders, etc., normal? If so then yes, homosexuality is also normal.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Abnormal

All the things you have listed are natural disorders and the people that suffer from them are normal and should be treated that way, Homosexuality is natural but not a disorder and Homosexuals should be treated the same way that any other person is wether they suffer from an illness or are "normal"
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

All the things you have listed are natural disorders and the people that suffer from them are normal and should be treated that way,They are natural. The people, if without them are normal, but with them are not. If someone is messed up why do you think that person should automatically be treated as some abomination? I have never claimed anything like that myself. Homosexuality is natural but not a disorder and Homosexuals should be treated the same way that any other person is wether they suffer from an illness or are "normal"As are all disorders natural, so is homosexuality. It is a disorder and it is natural.For the survival of a species that has two different genders the genders must be heterosexual. Otherwise the species would go extinct. There is also no need for homosexuality, not to mention it is rather stupid since the gear you've got is to be used on the opposite sex, not the same sex. Using your gear on your own sex is wrong. Homosexuality is a disorder.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

Homosexuality is completely natural and usually (not always) has to do with how the Mother's body responds to the child in her womb. But the thing is, homosexuality is normal, so stop acting like just because you have a different sexual orientation than most people that your somehow "different" or "special" or "unique" because your not, your just like everyone else.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

I think they're soooooooooooooooooooooooo gay
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

We live in a modern society and have, more than ever the biggest range of people in our world than ever before and the population of the planet is constantly growing. Can we honestly expect that with that amount of people who are all different, we won't get homosexuals people? At the end of the day I don't see how 'normal' can have a definition because one persons idea of normal will be completely different to another persons. I believe that at the end of the day, love is love, it doesn't matter the sex of the person you fall in love with as long as they make you happy and that you trust them. And if two people happen to be the same sex and fall in love, what is wrong with it? Homosexuality has been around since Celtic times and I doubt that with the most amount of homosexual people in the world being at its peak, it will change. I think people that don't agree with it, are ignorant of the fact that love is love, whatever the sex is of the person.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

I doubt that with the most amount of homosexual people in the world being at its peak, it will change.I don't think that there are scientific studies about that, and if there are I never heard about, so nothing is proved. However, in my opinion, the homosexuals quantity is nearly the same of all time. I don't think that the number of homosexuals grow over the years, otherwise in some time the whole population will be homosexual. But I agree that nowadays there are more open homosexuals. I think that this is because nowadays we live in a more civilized and intellectual world, and this increases the homosexual's courage to come out.Besides this, your argument was perfect. You have the correct ideals.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

thank you, I know my argument isn't exactly supported by scientific evidence, I was just voicing my opinion:)
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

There is nothing wrong with homosexuals or homosexuality. This is America and bigotry does not belong here.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

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Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Abnormal

Statistically, at least. A species in which a majority of the specimens were homosexual wouldn't thrive as ours has.Its abnormalcy doesn't lend to objectionability in any way, as some would suggest. Plenty of things are abnormal and harmless, like sleeping naked or autofellatio.
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

I get your point and agree with you. It isn't normal, but natural. I should put the options "natural" and "unnatural". Thank you!
Debate: What do you think about homosexuals? And about homosexuality?
Side: Normal

Statistically, at least. A species in which a majority of the specimens were homosexual wouldn't thrive as ours has.Lesbian lizards. I don't know if they're as populace as us (probably not) but they seem to be stable in their existence. We're not necessarily a thriving species anyway. We populate quickly but we also die off quickly too. Our overpopulation seems to only contribute to more birth abnormalities. Like mother nature is trying to kill us off because we're too high in numbers.Its abnormalcy doesn't lend to objectionability in any way, as some would suggest. Plenty of things are abnormal and harmless, like sleeping naked or autofellatio.This I completely agree with.