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Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

The US would totally win in a war with North Korea. Several reasons are that the US have one of the most elite special forces in the world. For exp.- Navy SEALs, Green Berets, Delta Force, Army Rangers, SFOD-D, and SOAR Nightstalkers. China wouldn't want to join in a war with the US by supporting the North Koreans because they will lose trillions of dollars owed to them by the US and the US will never give it back if China went to war with them. North Korea would totally get wiped off the map by the nuclear weapons that we possess and will totally make it into a barren land like the Nevada desert. North Korea would also lose because the Russians wouldn't help them because the North Koreans are big mouths which the US will eventually shove a dick in there sometime in the future. Russia is right now helping China with military technology and wouldn't even give a shit for the North Koreans. The US would just send in some F-22 Raptors or some stealth bombers like last time but instead of dropping munitions, they will be dropping nukes on them instead. Then the Koreans would running for their lives. North Korea would be annihiliated by the US and their allies. The United Nations would back up the US because North Korea threatened to nuke the mainland US and the headquarter of the United Nations are in New York which the North Koreans are more likely to target but their nikes can barely leave 5 mile off their own coast which is such a shame. Then we have way better weapons than the Koreans as they have Cold War guns while we have 21st century top of the class weapons capable of taking of taking a head from a mile with a .50 caliber sniper. Also, we would totally bomb the mess out of North Korea as one of the US's aircraft carriers can carry the whole entire North Korean Air Force and we have way better pilots than them. Everything that we have is either better than them or we have more than them or the quality is so much better that they would be drooling and wishing that they had the same exact shit as we had to go and bust their asses.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

I'm doing an essay on this. And it seems to me that the U.S would win.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

even if north korea gets support from china or whatever u.s gets europe... so usa has better chance...
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

If North Korea were doing more than posturing and torturing their people,like they are doing now, and gave us an opportunity to find away to sneak in there, we would first go through China to get them to stop. At this point North Korea is laughable and pathetic but if they were going to invade South Korea,China would stop them,after we asked for their help.To win a nuclear war, at this point is not winnable but one day, it could be winnable.Technology is advancing by leaps and bounds, and money has been no object,especially with breaking encryptions.If we could prevent our adversaries from being able to fire their nukes,even temporarily, we could win.The timing would have to be perfect.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

technicaly they would not cause they are friends with china and those two forces together are way stronger than the united states plus they have two things 1.A nuclear shock wave that could destroy are power grid and we would have no power in the united states and 2.They have nuclear bombs hidden in the in the south side of the us that were found in big huge trash bins let me add one more 3. they have teariest going around and destroying power plants and nuclear power plants they destroyed 17 transmitters so far and they were caught shooting at a nuclear power plant and open fired on the police all the police can tell us is that they are still out there endangering the citizens of the united states
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

if you think North korea has any chance against the USA you are so wrong its not even amusingDay 1-3 US bombs heavy using planes that fly high near the tip of the atmosphere north korea has no answer for this they can't even get a rocket to go a mile up without it blowing up.The North Korean infrastructure is annihilated wiping out it's electrical grid,anti air and air force plunging the country into darkness and making it defenseless against air attacks.Day 3-7 Drone attacks taking out key military targets like large groups of soldiers,artillery , tanks demoralizing most to the point where they will just surrender. Day 7- 3 weeks The hard core supporters are who at this point have pop guns are annihilated by a blitz of M1 abrams tanks and ground forces for which the no have no answer for.Hard core supporters are all that will be left no starving north korean will fight to the death for a regime letting them starve. Result millions dead in north korea USA losses at most 1000 and that's being conservative on the high end i would say more like 100-200.China will not intervene the us owes them too much money and has too much buying power in the end China will look at it like customers which one are you ok with losing the rich guy or the poor guy.  I would hope the us would go in and just kill Kim Jong Un. I would love to see that little shit on slab with half of his head missing from a 50 cal round.He tortures and kills his own people making them live in a repressive inhuman hell and needs to go.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

The question is pointless. Of course the United States would win the war. China would not even be a factor in such a war. The United States owes countless billions to China, not to mention we are by far their largest trading partner. They need us more than we need them. All America has to do is say "Screw you China, we are paying you back one cent" and China would be forced to sit this one out, lest bankrupt their entire nation.Even in a non nuclear conflict, America would prevail and the North Korean army would be eliminated, most of them with not even seeing the face of their killers due to the advanced technological ware fare devices of the U.S. military and vast resources of the United States. Even if the war did turn nuclear, you have to look at when and where. The Korean Peninsula is small. It's about the size of the U.S. state of Florida, so if the North bombed Seoul, for example, where is the fallout going to go? Because of the geography of the area, this would affect several nations, depending on prevailing winds and weather, most likely China, Japan, Russia including North Korea itself. Do you honestly think China and Russia will tolerate radiation over their real estate? You're a fool if you do.Another thing to consider is that North Korea doesn't stand a snowball's chance in hell of getting an ICBM (which they don't even have one at this point) to the U.S. mainland. America has had more than 50 years to prepare for and counteract a large scale missile attack against their mainland during the cold war. Why do you think the former USSR and USA stock piled several thousand ICBMs when only a fraction of them were needed to destroy the entire globe? It's because we knew that the majority of the missiles wouldn't make it through due to each country's counter measures. America has a vast network of early detection and anti missile defenses spread throughout and around the country. It takes years to produce these ICBM's and even if North Korea were able to launch a dozen or more, the chances of even one getting through are pretty slim. North Korea's leader is a madman. That's why he should be taken seriously, because madmen are unpredictable and just crazy enough to think they CAN win a war of this nature. The reality would be the probable extinction of the Korean people as a whole which would be a war where nobody wins but the Korean governments, their race and way of life would be eradicated. So there's your answer. America and the rest of the world would go on, but Korea would cease to exist in a nuclear conflict. In a conventional war, North Korea would be sitting ducks in a full scale allied attack and invasion. Their military bases, installations, and infrastructure would be taken out within a few weeks. Once that is gone, surrender would be without question.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

The USA would win the war because there are plenty of nuclear weapons that would annihilate North Korea.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

Elite forces, orbital defense, destructive nukes, biggest air force, biggest navy, best technology, has nearly all of Europe as its allies as well as Eastern Asia. Has bases in South Korea, has better military all in all. Has China as an ally. Has most of the top 10 most powerful countries as its allies. What more do you want? North Korea thinks China or Russia will back them up. Well they must be sick or something. US and its allies gives China every thing for their products. US makes up 70-80% if their economy. I am very sure if China makes the US pissed. It's economy will suffer. US has the most allies. It has the UK, France, most of eastern asia. It has the best technology so yea. US will win.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

It would be tantamount to an outright massacre.Assuming the United States has the time to move the additional assets into place, which they are doing as we speak, North Korea would not stand a chance.The first thing the United States would likely do because N.K. does possess crude nuclear weapons is deliver a crippling non-nuclear EMP, or Electro-magnetic pulse. We have developed this (non-nuclear) EMP in recent years which allows us to completely render our enemy blind.They would instantly lose communications, radar, all electronics are nullified, many permanently.Their SAM missile sites shut down, all vehicles in the effected area shut down..the electronic ignitions fried! Its a thousand times better then jamming their anti-aircraft radar.Once the localized EMP's were confirmed, we would launch a massive air campaign and blow them into the stone age. The only problem being they are already in the stone age so we will have to settle for just destroying their command and control sites, all nuclear sites, probably lay waste to a large portion of the 300,000 man contingency sitting down on the 38th parallel.Is there a chance they may be able to rain down thousands of rounds of artillery on Soul South Korea before we wack and suppress their artillery...sure, its very possible.But as for America wining or losing?The question is silly
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

the united states has the power to destroy north Korea. we already beat them once why are they coming back for more. we will just beat them again. No other countries care about North Korea.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

the us is a has stong army tanks airplans and a awesome navy army mirencore and many many more
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

Here we go now. We would destroy North Korea and if Russian and China want to play Russian roulette, then we all die" Let the civilized countries, the strong maintain the order on the planet because it is only we the U.S., Russia, and China, that has the power to end civilization. Russia doesn't care about North Korea, China does not care, in fact North Korea does not care about north Korea - what are they trying to prove anyway? Wold dominance in the next 200 - 2000 years? They are too stupid to feed themselves so natural selection moves forward. And you wonder why they are so short? Malnutrition EVEN for the elite. Let's rid the planet of these half animal half God knows what and move on it's what they are begging for is it not? In fact kill half of them and let the other half eat them. Then kill them all on a full stomach. That would be humane.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

North Korea has started to lose its support from China after there was another hostage crisis of chineses citizens by north koreans.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

France is Nuclear Stronger then China. hahahahahahahahahahahhahahaahahahahahahahahha
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

Nuclear power is the primary source of electric power in France. In 2004, 425.8 TWh out of the country's total production of 540.6 TWh of electricity was from nuclear power (78.8%), the highest percentage in the world.[1]
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

the usa is very powerful , we surely would win n korea would not have a chance, were the most powerful nation in the world, if they want to fight each other ,let them im sure there they wont bother the usa, they dont dare to fool around with the usa,
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

Dumbass america is the most proweful country in the world north has mostly out of date wepons and we aren't trying to win in the middle east were fleid testing new things to see how they are in combat if we wanted 2 we could end the wars in the middle east and save millons of lives but that would be a profit lost and ad for buniess
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

Are you kidding me? Why you think USA RUSSIA AND CHINA are the only ones with nuclear power. France has more nukes then China. China has 240 France has 300. And USA would crush korea unless an EMP attack on the usa happens goodby electricity for 313 million americans.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

North Korea has a very good army and would do well, so long the US. did not do other things to the DPRK before the war
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

There is no country that could defeat the USA in open war (assuming all others remained neutral), this includes China or Russia, although together they'd have a chance. North Korea however would be squashed quite quickly, try to remember your history, many accounts claimed that Iraq had the 4th largest army in the world prior to the first gulf war, it didn't take the US long to defeat them, did it?It is also worth mentioning that the power of Iraq's army was soley the result of US support (much like Isreal or Egypts current military dictatorship) in the form of training, weapons, military hardware, etc., to their friend and regional ally Saddam Hussein who remained a friend for decades even when he gased 300,000 Kurds, but you see that information only became important when he became a US enemy, therefore everyone in the Western world was then made aware of it in order to manufacture consent.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

Wait a minute, weren't there a lot of countries against Iraq?????
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

Yes, I was going to mention that but it's all but irrelevant, the US led the campaign and provided the majority of the force that destroyed Saddam's war machine. If no other country participated the result would have been the same, at most it would have taken a little longer.In isolation North Korea is relatively weak and fragile, and if it wasn't for China the regime would have collapsed a long time ago.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

Well... To be specific...Th only countries that supported America were the UN and... Well... The UN.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

I'll dispute that. According to the last START Treaty declarations: As of 1 March 2012 as drawn from the data exchange by the Parties, the United States had 812 Deployed ICBMs, Deployed SLBMs, and Deployed Heavy Bombers.1737 Warheads on Deployed ICBMs, on Deployed SLBMs, and Nuclear Warheads Counted for Deployed Heavy Bombers; and 1040 Deployed and Non-deployed Launchers of ICBMs, Deployed and Non-deployed Launchers of SLBMs, and Deployed and Non-deployed Heavy Bombers.Russian Federation had 494 Deployed ICBMs, Deployed SLBMs, and Deployed Heavy Bombers; 1492 Warheads on Deployed ICBMs, on Deployed SLBMs, and Nuclear Warheads Counted for Deployed Heavy Bombers.881 Deployed and Non-deployed Launchers of ICBMs, Deployed and Non-deployed Launchers of SLBMs, and Deployed and Non-deployed Heavy Bombers.The largest nuclear weapons ever built by the US was the B41 (Mk41), with a max yield of 25mt. It weighed 10650lbs and was 12 feet long. These have not been produced since the 1960's. The highest yield missile warhead ever deployed by the US was the W53 warhead with a 9mt yield. The last high yield bomb produced by the US was the B53-Y2. After it's retirement in 1965 the highest yield US weapon is the variable yield B83, with a maximum yield of 1.2 mt.The largest nuclear weapon ever developed by any nuclear power was the Soviet RDS-220, also called the Tsar Bomb. In a test explosion using lead as a damper instead of uranium, it had a yield of 58mt, in the full version (without lead) 150mt. All standard and current Russian weapons including NGB, SLBMs and ICBMs have yields of between 5 and 50mt.The SS-18 (Satan R-36M2) as a single warhead variant has the 15F175 warhead providing a 20mt yield. The MIRV'd version provides 20-36 550kt warheads. The single-warhead R-36M2 is the highest yield nuclear weapon currently deployed by any nation. Add all this to the fact that most of Russian nukes are very mobile targets. Not easy to keep track of while the fireworks are going off.The standard warhead on all Chinese ICBMs is currently 5mt with a range of 13000km. The Chinese rockets are mostly based in a wide ranging collection of hardened tunnels.So it seems in sheer mega-tonnage Russia has the upper hand. As for delivery systems, you about on a par in number but have less survivability. Silos are sitting ducks compared to hardened mobile heavy launchers.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

NK is technologically about 1950 .
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

Correct, all the stuff left over by the Russians from the last big party in Korea. You cannot discount the possibility that China may have slipped then something or the other over the last 50 years. Especially at time when the attention of the world was in other places.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

Exactly, this is the reason most countries have the money they have, sad but true.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

Absolutely - China keeps them in check that way. Much of their tech is stuff the Chinese have obsoleted.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

North Korea however would be squashed quite quickly, try to remember your history, many accounts claimed that Iraq had the 4th largest army in the world prior to the first gulf war, it didn't the US long to defeat them, did it?
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

Hey, here's a radical idea, why not try creating your own arguments.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

While this is very true, they also didn't have Chinese troops backing them up either.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

I really depends whether Norht Korea can gather good enough allies, such as China or Russia. If not then they are probably screwed.But you never know, USA couldn't even get through Vietnam.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

Does anyone remember the last war that we fought, beginning to end, and were declared the victor of? It was World War 2 people. Name a war since that we have taken on and it has actually had a "winner", and that winner was the USA? Not Korea, Not Vietnam, Not Irag, and definitely not Afghanistan. What makes you all so sure? Just because we are bigger and better than they are? I would be careful throwing that mentality around. China could crush us just in economics alone. We do not fight as well as we used to....we may have brute force, but we are not very smart to beat the little countries who come at us in ways we are not prepared to take on, nor do we know how to fight back. The enemy of today is not driving around in big tanker trucks, nor in bunkers waiting to be disarmed. They are the enemy that cnnot be scene, leaving car bombs, and exploiting our weaknesses.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

That's just not true though. We are much stronger than we used to be! We not only have incredible amounts of nukes, but we also have much better technology(planes, guns, boats, all of those are what I mean by technology..)! To even think about starting a war with us is insane!
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

Well said caw123. but a little bit wrong on that last war you fought beginning to end....it was definitely not from the beginning but surely the end.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

Actually the last war the USA fought from beginning to end and won was the war of Independence.Both the First and Second World Wars were de facto won by the time the USA became involved.The USA could defeat any other nation in warfare. The problem is, wars for the USA are not about national survival, they are about projecting influence and power as the conflict never takes place on US soil.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

The us had been in a lot of wars form the first 1 2 now and the reason we joined ww2 was cause we were attcked both wws were won very soon after america joined
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

We have not lost any armed conflict, unless the politicians screwed it up. Let the generals fight the wars, and the amateurs stay home and continue to make asses of themselves like Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi.You are overestimating the power of China - their economy depends on ours and a cursory study of the subject will tell you they do not desire a fight with us on any battlefield. I also dispute your knowledge of battlefield tactics in modern warfare. You have no real idea about combat in the modern era and you are regurgitating left wing defeatist attitudes that have no basis the reality on the ground. Your knowledge of how the North Korean army fights and would deploy in combat is severely lacking. They are in fact dug in to the mountainous terrain north of Seoul and we know exactly where they are and what they have to fight with. You have underestimated the military intelligence activities of our armed forces and if you think that North Korea can put up a realistic fight against the South Korean, United States, Japanese and other allied forces against them in a shooting war, all I can say is watch and be amazed.
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

If you are going to pull the ally card into it then remember one thing! The U.S. has more allies than N.K. would ever get. On top of it many of our already have very well strategically placed war machines that are VERY well trained!
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: USA

Dumbass we pulled out cuase no one wanted to be there we lost 60000 people there how many did they lose check it
Debate: Would North Korea win in a war against USA
Side: North Korea

Why cant North Korea have nuke while USA can have 1000 nuke.Why can a police carry a gun and u cant.Why a bigger men want to hit a smaller man.Why a stronger country want to destroy a smaller country.The reason USA win war because they have allies like England, France etcA group of 5 and 6 strong men hit a Muslim girl Iraq not fair fight but who said waris fair.The human race need to reduce and leave place for other species. So war its good NorthKorea its poor and its people will starving to dead anyway so they have nothing to looseon the other hand if USA loose so all of theirs brothers will fall Europe , Australian etc