azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

God is in fact real. The world cant just be entirely based on science. The bible couldn't just have popped out of no where. It had to come from somewhere, like for example, God. Just cause theres no proof doesn't mean that its not true. For example, if one sister stole a toy from the younger sister, began to play with it, and put it back in the toy bin, there would've been no proof that the older sister ever took the toy from the younger sister's hands. The older sister could've just said that the younger sister never took it out of the bin. Many crimes are like this. There wasn't enough proof, but many people knew who did it. I can see how people don't believe in God, because I once that he wasn't real and he was just someone to look to for hope. However, now I know that God is always watching over me and he cares for me. I'm not trying to convince anyone to start seeing the light(even though I recommend it), I'm just simply stating my opinion.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

Ahh...this is the ultimate question, isn't it? Do we exist with a plan, with a purpose, or are we just bunches of matter walking around? I think the very fact that we are able to muse about such things is in and of itself some decently solid evidence towards a creator. Look around you. Look at something as simple as a leaf on a tree, and what do you see? Maybe not much, but if you think about the complexity of each different cycle going on inside that tiny leaf, if you think about photosynthesis or the krebs cycle or even the structure of one tiny cell, you might wonder how on earth that happened 'by chance'. That's like spilling paint on a piece of paper and re-creating the Mona Lisa. Sure, it happened again and again as time went on and mistakes were corrected, but the complexity of the world around us simply cannot just be made by accident after accident as time bumbles along. Writing a strand of DNA by chance is about as likely as sitting a very well-behaved monkey at a computer and watching as it hits the keyboard randomly and manages to recreate Webster's Encyclopedia (five times in a row). Now sure, it can hit the backspace button as many times as it wants to and take a billion zillion years to do it, but it's still SO UNLIKELY. Now that's just ONE DNA STRAND. Factor in the (roughly) seven trillion cells in your body, each with six strands of DNA that need to be written and coded, and you've got yourself a heck of an endeavor. Sorry mister monkey, but I don't think it's happening. You need an intelligent designer such as Noah Webster if you want something other than a mess of letters all jumbled together.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

An intelligent design seems to be the answer based upon the many facts which support it. Intelligent design goes into the irreducibly complex systems which were created and from these systems, it may be concluded that no god would be a foolish viewpoint because the idea of humans, or any other specimen, coming from nonliving matter and over millions of years coincidentally falling into place to work perfectly is a statement which is both ridiculous and ludicrous.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

god is not a figure whom we imagine as ..he is the supreme power who has created this universe and there are superstitions based on that. the whole universe is created with a power and the nature around us is the creation of that power ..so yes there is god because we have named that power as god.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

Everyone knows there is a God. Its choosing to know or not.Creation itself shows God exists. Nothing jumped into existence.Even the Creation story itself may answer some atheist views.When I recently looked at the Genesis story, it occurred to me thatEach day wasn't a day as we know it. So it makes sense to have long term growth of vegetation and then all of a sudden have creation jump into being on days 5 and 6.So maybe a fresh look for the agnostic or even the atheist may cause a few questions or explanations that weren't thought of in their decisions.Some are atheists because they don't want to believe their accountable, it's a matter of convenience to remove God. "The Santa idea, he knows when we are naughty"Their denial of religion and of God have been formed by their views that they conclude mostly from avoiding God and avoiding thoughts that may challenge their convenient truth, and make their view without actually giving it some independent thorough investigation.So willing to accept He doesn't exist, and argue He doesn't exist.But very little if any on weighing the data that suggests He may actually exist. Its a 'convenient truth' to them, and its left unchallenged with a smug prove He exists but no responsibility to prove He doesn't.Because they dont understand spiritual things they don't believe could exist, like a God who allows evil to exist, or pain, or will judge sin one day.So the atheist hasn't given much thought on why or how God exists, their focus is on ignoring any details that my otherwise show that He does exist.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

Throwing millions of years in between the days in Genesis is completely un-Biblical and unnecessary and casts doubt on the entire Bible. The way you are trying to blend millions of years implies the Bible is not true at all.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

It goes in line with faith and scienceAnd doesn't really matter in regards to our Salvation.But it may help in discussing with "atheist" that God is undeniable you still have nature jumping into being on day 5 and 6. The 1st 2 24 hour days. Which makes perfect sense because even atheist can't explain that jumping into being.And as far as firmament that makes sense too. "And water canopy makes real sense with the flood!The sky's emptied of all that water and covered the earth. Sounds very likely! So yeah thanks that's cool. Scientifically there is data showing this time line that questions God by atheists. Well if nature was going for whatever equivalent of a day, whether it be 1000 years or 10,000 years is irrelevant.but it also answers creation all of a sudden jumping into being. Even atheists have a difficult time explaining what we know happened on day 5 or 6. So day 5 and 6 explain immediate presense of fish, birds, man, and animals.Its actually not easily disputable in that light.And the garden was separate to the "East" So animals weren't confined to the garden.And I'm not sure long Adam and Eve were in the garden. But this is a logical explainion showing the world growing with forming vegetation and maybe even crawling bugs etc that are needed to reproduce vegetation. Maybe maybe not, He doesn't mention bugs in day 5 or day 6. As far as expanse or firmament it offer a similar explanation, it still adds form to the earth suggesting it is round. So then water separated by sky or atmosphere So if you want to add space
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

A day is a time period. The text clearly states it was a day. The mystery is imaginary, the text is plain and clear, and there is nothing that says Adam was made from dust outside of the garden before he was placed in the garden. Jesus quoited from Genesis implying it was not mysterious but rather plainly stated. We were not there, just read it and take it as it is from the hand of God. There is plenty of scientific facts supporting the literal six day Creation account and Noah's flood, there is no need to read into scripture things that are not there. What you'll end up doing is opening the door for more confusion and weakening your ability to present truth, casting doubt on the entire Bible by casting doubt on the Genesis account.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

Oh really?"there are plenty of scientific facts supporting a literal six-day Creation?"Please.I see this as a sign of disrespect to me and my knowledge on the topic of Biology and Evolution.I cannot allow it, Saint.So pray tell....share with us one of these alleged scientific facts!And then watch as I totally destroy it.And I will provide links if you like!Go!SS
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

With all due respect for your level of education, let me refer you to Dr.Keith H. Wanser. I'm sure you will appreciate his amazing accomplishments of education and contributions of applied science. He will speak on your highly educated level explaining the facts of science which led him to believe the six day creation account in Genesis is ........ahhhh, what's the word, can't think of the word, means valid, credible, workable, feasable, justifiable, verifiable.........Dr. Wanser is professor of physics, California State University, Fullerton. He holds a B.A. in physics from California State University, an M.A. in physics from the University of California, Irvine, and a Ph.D. in condensed matter physics from the University of California, Irvine. Dr. Wanser, who specializes in novel and ultrasensitive optical fiber sensor devices, components and techniques, has published over 30 refereed and 18 other technical papers and holds seven U.S. patents. In 1996 he was the recipient of the School of Natural Sciences and Mathematics Outstanding Research Award. http://creation.com/keith-h-wanser-physics-in-six-days Here is 50 Ph.D. scientists explaining the facts I would present. Pardon me for being a bit lazy, but if you want to read it here it is. I really don't want to fight about it, I tried to present this stuff before and everybody on this site just vanished from the discussion. Nobody had the backbone to look at the vast amount of scientific evidence against evolution and the big bang. Because I tried hard to get people to look at it before, I'm not going to try the same way again. If I keep doing what I always did, I'll get what I always got........so I'm not trying to brush you off by saying find the stuff yourself, I simply think based on what happened before that you will get stuck arguing about open systems (batteries) and silly snowflakes and not look at the myriad of scientific evidence contradictory to evolution and the big bang.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

Welll I just read your link from Dr. Wanser.While he presents some interessting stuff, I would hardly call it anything close to proof of a six-day Creation, or a Young Earth. He offers only conjecture. Some of his alleged "proof" that our dating systems are wrong is pretty comical, Saint.Like when he said that just becasue he saw (anectdotal, btw) some sort of stalagtite-forms growing near his home in Alexandria, VA that those millions-year-old ones in Carlsbad had to be young too! He also admits early in the article that since turing religious as a youngster he has been intent on discrediting science dating methods so as to make their dates coincide with his beloved Genesis.This is as good as admitting that he has cherry-picked and engaged in comfirmation bias. Like with the stalagtites.He fell to the only tactic of arguing with our radiometric dating methods that the Creationists have: to try and discredit them by saying they are flawed. And by in turn HYPOTHOSIZING that the breakdown of certain elements were different back in biblical times than they are now! This idea (not even a hypothesis, really) has NO merit whatsoever. there is NO reason to think that element breakdown would be different. It's like surmising that the laws of physics at one time broke down and were different than they are now! Gee! Maybe at one time gravity was weaker and we could all fly!Wanser said this..........."Possible scenarios of intense neutrino and/or gamma ray fluxes due to various supernova and stellar disturbances (possibly during Noah’s Flood) may have contributed to the appearance of age when radioactive substances are examined by causing substantial radioactive decay in a very short time period, rather than over long periods of time at currently observable rates. Besides causing additional radioactive decay, such fluxes or increases in cosmic radiation could also have resulted in the rapid decrease in the human lifespan following the Flood, as recorded in Genesis. "Please. What was the very first word there, Saint?"Possible."And then he goes on to NOT give ANY reason why those different scenarios in which known and studied elements should have once behaved differently than they do now.He also only tries to discredit ONE form of radiometric dating.I trust you do know that we have dozens of different forms? If you google "forms of radiometric dating" you will get a list that runs a few pages long! Many of them use checks and balances so as to measure different emissions in case a certain type is flawed.SS
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

The 1st 24 hour day was on day 4 a tally the 1st full day would have been on the 5 th day. And I didn't say anything about millions of yearsThere is a scripture that says 1 day is as 1000 years, 1000 years as 1 day to the Lord. So that's a statement God isn't governed by time.He created time to govern our days not His days
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

That statement of comparing a day to a thousand years does not change Exodus 20:11 in which God Himself spoke (Ex 20:1...AND God spake all these words, saying,.....) and clearly stated that in six DAYS, not six thousand years, he made the heaven and earth and all that is in them. Six days is six days when the text says it's six days, and the Bible is consistent throughout regarding the six days of Creation.God spoke Exodus 20:11 directly to Moses's face. When God says He created all things in six days, I say "wow", and you say, "God didn't really mean that, he was just using word play and being unclear about what He was saying". There is no reason to believe the Earth was not spinning the moment God created it, and He did create it in a moment by His will, He spoke it into existence in a moment. There is no logical or Biblical reason to add thousands of years between the days, or millions of years, or to say the Earth didn't spin before day 4.The verse speaking of a day being as a thousand years to the LORD is in reference to His promised return. Applying it to Genesis 1 to say we really don't know if a day was a thousand years in Genesis 1 is out of context and out of faith.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

That statement of comparing a day to a thousand years does not change Exodus 20:11 in which God Himself spoke (Ex 20:1...AND God spake all these words, saying,.....) and clearly stated that in six DAYS, not six thousand years, he made the heaven and earth and all that is in them. Six days is six days when the text says it's six days, and the Bible is consistent throughout regarding the six days of Creation.God spoke Exodus 20:11 directly to Moses's face. When God says He created all things in six days, I say "wow", and you say, "God didn't really mean that, he was just using word play and being unclear about what He was saying". There is no reason to believe the Earth was not spinning the moment God created it, and He did create it in a moment by His will, He spoke it into existence in a moment. There is no logical or Biblical reason to add thousands of years between the days, or millions of years, or to say the Earth didn't spin before day 4.The verse speaking of a day being as a thousand years to the LORD is in reference to His promised return. Applying it to Genesis 1 to say we really don't know if a day was a thousand years in Genesis 1 is out of context and is not believing God's word.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

They still are days. They are days that have light and dark, but not sun or moon. They are days that have morning and evening. However that completed whether they just simply coexistence and morning and evening coexisted simultaneously divided pretty much stationary. Or with some floating of position, or it was completed when a full turn was made transferring the light where darkness was and visa versa. So either the pics I get are there was maybe 1000 years for each day till the 5th day, possibly the 4th day. And either light and darkness gradually tumbled changing light ad darkness position, or I it made full conversion meaning 1/2 the day was dark 1/2 was light - but this is least likely. Or the tumbling bounced the position often and frequently in a random pattern. And when the time equivalent of His 1 day was our thousand years He called it a day. As far as spinning and 24 hours and seasons and years as we know it beginning. That's just reading. And knowing very basic science.If God didn't put a Sun and moon untill day 4, then how was the world spinning in its current rotation. Spinning around sun and placement the of moon is what makes 1 day. 24 hours. It would also make sense why 300 foot trees are buried in the North Pole. Found through archeologist. And discussed also by creationist. My theory makes sense because our rotation didn't change. Those trees may have gotton there during the time the world floated in place in space. Because the Sun wasn't a factor and the earth rotating and its "equator" wouldn't exist to make areas of different climates to that degree. There may have been some paternity to the light creating some climate differences. But not divided by the equator as we know it. Because we didn't likely change 120 degrees in rotation to the sun, so as to have the North Pole
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

Your hypothesis is not a theory, it's not Biblical, and it's not scientific. You don't believe the Bible so you have no business teaching it, you are not even teaching Bible you are only teaching our own beliefs independent of the Bible.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

Paint a picture for me.What creates 24 hours? And if the world was spinning and didn't just start spinning from the work God did on day 4, then what was the world spinning around?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

Why do you not simply believe God when He said He created the heaven and the earth and all that are in them in six days? Why are you trying to change His word? Who do you think you are?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

Day 4 God created time to begin.Day night hours seasons years.The earth started spinning this day!14 Then God said, “Let there be [s]lights in the [t]expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years; 15 and let them be for [u]lights in the [v]expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth”; and it was so. 16 God made the two [w]great lights, the greater [x]light [y]to govern the day, and the lesser [z]light [aa]to govern the night; He made the stars also. 17 God placed them in the [ab]expanse of the heavens to give light on the earth, 18 and [ac]to govern the day and the night, and to separate the light from the darkness; and God saw that it was good. 19 There was evening and there was morning, a fourth day.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

Why add to it? the evening and the morning were the first day. I woke up this morning and Lord willing, I'll go to sleep this evening and that is the end of another day if I make it that far.You don't have to post the verses from Genesis in whatever fake version of God's word you are using. In verse 14, the correct word is "firmament", not "expanse".Firmament lines up with modern physics as the fabric of space/time, the Higgs/Boson particle or whatever they call it. God knew what He was doing when He brought His word into English.There is nothing in Genesis which states when the Earth started spinning. You are putting in things that are not there and are uncalled for. God's word is true, He created all things exactly as He said He did.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

It's not adding to it. It's reading it.There was no such thing as a 24 hour day till God put it in place on day 4.I don't think it's a earth shattering doctrine to think ether way.In other words not every opinion of scripture is concerning.If you think they all are 24 hour days, that's fine.But I'm reading it and see time didn't exist as we know it till day 4.So day 5 was the 1st 24 hour day. In Psalms and in Peter it says that 1000 years is as 1 day. It's saying that God is not governed by time and both of these scriptures in context refer back to "creation" in a portion of its text.  So maybe Peter and David knew something about those "days."Do you really think God was governed by time? By time that He put in motion on the 4 th day for the benefit of those who were created?He literally placed lights in the sky to "govern" time. Do you think anything "governs" God?He is the ruler who placed time as He created to govern created things like us.I'm excited about the texts, because it answers mysteries. And answers evolution some. And it shows scripture to be much more advanced in knowledge that ONLY could have been God inspired. Day 3 the works had no sun to spin around, and no order to govern day and night, And seasons, Going around the sun produced as we know it. The author understood the lights in the sky and the movement of the earth followed days and also seasons. Pretty advanced thought.Psalms 902 Before the mountains were born or you brought forth the whole world, from everlasting to everlasting you are God. 3 You turn people back to dust, saying, “Return to dust, you mortals.” 4 A thousand years in your sight are like a day that has just gone by, or like a watch in the night.2 Peter 3For ever since the fathers fell asleep, all continues just as it was from the beginning of creation.” 5 For [a]when they maintain this, it escapes their notice that by the word of God the heavens existed long ago and the earth was formed out of water and by water, 6 through which the world at that time was destroyed, being flooded with water. 7 But by His word the present heavens and earth are being reserved for fire, kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.8 But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

Evening and morning are terms that mean day and nightAnd since 24 hours didn't exist yet they weren't divided by time as we know it.When evening and morning are used the original means day night light dark without tome specific Morning to morning and evening to evening are time specific because it speaks of time as time in day or night to same time day or night. From the rising of the Sun to the going down of the same the Lords name is to be praised But morning and evening are general terms of during day or during night, or as in during light or during dark.Psalm 305 For His anger is but for a moment, His favor is for a lifetime;Weeping may last for the night, But a shout of joy comes in the morning.John 9: 4 4 As long as it is day, we must do the works of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can work. 5 While I am in the world, I am the light of the world.”
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

God clearly stated that He created the heaven and the earth and all that is in them in six days. A day is not a thousand years. If you are trying to imply the verses you are quoting show a day in Genesis is not really a day, you are twisting the Bible into saying things it does not say by taking scripture out of context and abusing it to fit your non-Biblical teaching of a day not really being a day.When God said the evening and the morning were the first day, that means it was the first evening and the first morning of the first day. To say 24 hours did not exist on the first day is lunacy. What makes you think you are smarter than God? He clearly said He created all things in six days. You are calling God a liar.