azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

"Wow you cited Wikipedia! This only proves my point that whatever research you did wasnt sufficient if wikipedia is your go to source. "It is one of the only universally accepted sources on this site, hence the fact I used it. You have yet to disprove the source."The only reason christianity still rises is because they have higher birth rates than athiests or agnostics. I was refering to conversion rate which i apologize for not clairifying. Athiests are growing due to higher conversion rates. People are converting WAY more to athiesm than christianity which is the only rate that matters because it involves thought."Care to provide evidence for it? And the conversion rate for Christianity accounts for around 10% of the growth rate."It has nothing to do with bodily desires. At that age a childs mind starts to seek answers. They begin to ask questions. Questions that christianity just cant answer. So unless that questioning nature is systematically repressed by christian teachings of hellfire then they will most likely leave the religion."So what you're saying here is that a 13-14 year old child is more likely to question a meaning to life instead of wondering when they can have sex? Also, there are many questions Christianity answers which science cannot, for example what happens after you die."The deities of Greece and Rome died because the countries died. I dont see the USA being destroyed anytime soon, nor Israel, or Mexico or any other mainly judeo/christian country."Actually the Roman empire converted to Christianity. And if what you say is true then the age of Christianity isn't slowly passing away, because many countries who strongly believe in it show no sign of passing away either."Thats why its lasted longer. However, without a doubt, christianity will die out. Theres too many loopholes, contradictions, questions, and absurdities related with the religion that as people get smarter, it just doesnt make sense. People are being born into it, it doesnt mean they believe it."Your only evidence for this is your own assumption. What happens in the United States doesn't necessarily happen over the rest of the world. In Europe growth of atheism is fuelled by people being born into it and as you said "people are being born into it, it doesn't mean they believe it" most of the atheists in Europe know nothing about evolution aside from "humans came from monkeys".
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

A couple of points on this:1...People turn away from religion for a lot of reasons. One of them being that they do not want to be made to feel they must live by any rules not of their own making--moral and ethical rules. They do not want to be told that fornication, homosexuality and adultery are immoral; or that cheating in business is unethical.Why, even when it comes to spirituality, they do not want to be told anything is wrong.They want to blend everything into a kind of evolutionary spiritual soup without definition or boundaries, just as they claim to have taken creation out of science.Why is this so? Because of mankind's inherent selfish nature.A good example of this: find one politician in the world that is trustworthy, moral and ethical. None exist.2...As more people become atheistic, those become the majority. Who wants to dare go against the majority, to appear foolish and superstitious, and thus less intelligent?The only people who will risk that are those that have strong evidential reasons for believing in God. It's worth the risk.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

I see no reason to believe it is. There was never an "age" of Christianity. I don't think its ever going to go away as long as our world exists. Christianity is not even declining right now. Yes, science is advancing, but I don't think physical evidence ever really played much of a role in Christianity anyway.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: Yes

Please, Troy, look at the YouTube presentation, "An Archaeologist Defends the Bible," and you will see evidence after physical evidence that the Bible is absolutely trustworthy as a book of both history and spiritual faith.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

In this generation, many people have already trashed their life, and who do they go to for help and renewal? God and Christianity.
Debate: Is the age of Christianity slowly passing away?
Side: No

It seems like the percentage of freethinkers and/or non-believers is rising. Though I think it's due to an age of being more comfortable to "come out" (not to say that there are no problems with people coming out anymore).I see Christianity having it's prime just like the rest of the religions, and it's fall, just like the rest of the religions. A new religion will probably take it's place.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: yes

I belive its true the thing with the bible is that it can never be proven until jesus comes back therefore this debate is stupid also therefore people dont accept others religions or points of view on this website as you dont no who people are so you can say generally anything.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: No

Why would you have to wait until Jesus returns to prove the Bible? Of course this is prophecy, and wouldn't be "proved" until he actually did return. Then there would be other issues, but we won't go in to them at the moment.So are you suggesting that the whole Bible's accuracy rests on Jesus' return? While there are some accurate things in the Bible (there is a place called Jerusalem, there was a King David), many of the stories cannot be verified. This does not make them untrue, but we should see more evidence if they did. Let me give you three.First is the flood. If there was a flood that covered the entire earth, and wiped out all known species at the time, we would see evidence of this in the geological record. We do not see this.Second, the Hebrew nation being held as slaves in Egypt. If there were millions of Jews being held in Egypt, and the Exodus story happened as the Bible says, we would expect to see more on these miraculous events. In fact, we do see some evidence of Jews being held in Egypt, but not nearly to the extent that is described in the Bible. We do not see evidence of the plagues that Moses rained down on them either. If this was an important event, we should see it recorded in Egyptian history.Let me add my last, and favorite ones. Matthew 27:51-53 describes the events after Jesus' death, and adds that many dead Jews got out of their graves and walked into the city of Jerusalem. If zombie Jews were walking around Jerusalem, and people were seeing their dead relatives up and walking, wouldn't we expect to see this written down? This is really the only reference to this event, and we don't see any extra-biblical writers referring to it. If it were what really happened, we would see historians referencing zombie Jews.The Bible can't stand on it's own merit, and is continually being shown to be a man made book, which is as fallible as the rest of our books.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: yes

Matthew 27:51-5451At that moment the curtain of the temple was torn in two from top to bottom. The earth shook and the rocks split. 52The tombs broke open and the bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life. 53They came out of the tombs, and after Jesus’ resurrection they went into the holy city and appeared to many people. 54When the centurion and those with him who were guarding Jesus saw the earthquake and all that had happened, they were terrified, and exclaimed, “Surely he was the Son of God!” Remember Jesus is the mighty God you can't put limits on his power. If these events never happened why would they last for so many centuries. Surely we all know that Greek and Roman gods were myth. All of the pagan spirits that used to be worshipped for the vast majority are referred to as mythology. I should say for common sense people. Yet Christianity has grown rapidly since the time of Jesus' resurrection. Don't be so quick to dismiss such miracles.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: No

Christianity grew because it was adopted by Constantine, which forced it on the Empire. Christianity was spread by the sword. These stories have stuck around for so long, because this was the accepted religion of the Roman Empire, then medieval Europe, and now Western Nations. These are simple explanations for why they have stuck around, there is no evidence there for a god. Christianity has been the religion of the victors through the ages.Again, why don't we see people recording seeing their dead relatives come back to life? this is a pretty serious hole.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: yes

It is recorded in the Bible. Read Matthew sometime you will learn about them. Why did then at the time after Christ did we see so many christians being killed and persecuted. Constantine was pressured into the belief's by his own people. That when he came to know God's word. It was already a growing and powerful religion by the time he converted. Besides Judaism dates back farther then any other religion, which is the same God by the way.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: No

It is recorded in the Bible. Read Matthew sometime you will learn about them. Of course it's written in the Bible, but we don't look to the source to confirm itself. We need extra-biblical references to the event. Do we have any other references to this event? No, there is not. If this really happened, then every historian of the time would have been writing about it. Instead, all we see is it's embedded in a text that is littered with other outrageous claims.Why did then at the time after Christ did we see so many christians being killed and persecuted. Constantine was pressured into the belief's by his own people. That when he came to know God's word. It was already a growing and powerful religion by the time he converted.These Christians were being persecuted on all sides, by Jews and their Gentile counterparts, because they were part of a sect/cult. We do the same today with Scientology and Mormonism. It's interesting to see how Mormons used to be more persecuted, but overtime the religion has become mainstream and accepted. This is what happened with Christianity, and Constantine's "conversion" was final step that set up Christianity as an established religion in the Roman Empire. There's nothing special about early followers of Jesus, nothing that sets them apart from any other developing religion.Besides Judaism dates back farther then any other religion, which is the same God by the way.You are very wrong on this point. The Egyptian religion predates that of Judaism, and the Mesopotamians predate the Egyptians. If you want to go further back, look to China, and then all the way back to ancient India. This is where one of the oldest religions was founded, Hinduism. We even see evidence of symbolic belief, which could possibly be some type of spirituality in our early ancestors. Animism in Australian aborigines going as far back as 60,000 years, and also in Europe on cave walls.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: yes

You raise good points but are not unbiased to the scripture in your arguments. You can prove the Bible now and don't have to wait for Christ to return. Read the evidence that demand a verdict by Josh Mcdowell. The Bible addresses all the points you brought up BUT you must be aware of the conspiracy against the Bible. This is from scientist,educators,governments and all others just about going thru great links to make people think it's mythology.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: No

Your response is quite humorous. You really think there is a conspiracy here? What is your evidence? Josh McDowell is not a Bible Scholar, he is an apologist with a clear agenda to make you a believer, not to study the Bible and go where the evidence leads. If you want to read some good scholarship on the Bible, read some Bart Ehrman or Robert Price. It might open your eyes to how human a book the Bible is.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: yes

Your argument is that all books are fallible. Well I say if all books are fallible then wouldn't your own posting be fallible as well.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: No

1. His posting is not a book.2. His post is fallible and so is the bible.3. Fallible means "liable to err"
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: No

My posting is not a book, but arguments and statements can definitely be fallible. My words are liable to error as well. That's why we must back up claims with evidence, and test the evidence to see if it should justify belief in the claims that are being made.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: yes

Right thats what I was saying, thank you you are right there must be evidence to back up our claims.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: No

Your argument is circular as it assumes the fact that jesus will "come back" and you provide no proof for that, or reincarnation. Therefore it is invalid.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: yes

Yes. It lines up with history completely. And almost every single prophecy about Jesus in the Old Testament came true.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: No

Hi all Anonymus7894 you are so sure that the bible lines up the history completely ? first of all , you need to know the History before you say that..... can you reference me a historical record of the children genocide of Herod other then the bible ? How can you call that prophecy ,you can pre-arrange them "the happenings" and called them prophesies ?best regards
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: yes

The prophesy that jesus would die and come back to life again, three days later, came true, and if you say not, I can bet I have an answer to destroy your compromise, or thing that happened that made it look like he did but didn't, if that makes sense! (LOL)How could you pre-arrange a prophesy of ressurection. It was a miracle.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: No

Hi all"How could you pre-arrange a prophesy of ressurection. It was a miracle."why NOt if you and your helpers knew and believe the "prophecies" strongly , there is nothing that could stopped all of you from staging the whole thing. at least for your own assurance of your belief.Besides ,the resurrection story in MARK(earliest gospel) is an addition ca.500AD or laterIn the Codex Sinaiticus (350AD) the earliest compiled bible ,the last of Mark verse stopped at 16:8 beyond that is the immediately start of gospel of LUKE.however , in the papyrus scrolls ,there is NO record of the 'extended verses on resurrection of Jesus in mark' found in that formed. therefore , the resurrection story of Jesus was not a universally accepted doctrine during gospel times. such a landmark area of Jesus surly the omission is a calling of alarm of doubt on the authenticity on the contents regarding Jesus written in the gospels. best regards
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: No

There are countless ways that a person could fake their own death.First of all, people in comas may appear to be dead. In fact, many people in comas were in unwittingly fact buried alive.and while we are on the subject, even spontaneous birth is not 100% miracle.Women with Turner's syndrome can spontaneously become pregnant.And lastly: how do you pre-arrange a prophesy?first you come up with a plan.Then you say that plan is going to happen.and then you carry out the plan.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: No

The whole story about him being 'buried in a rock tomb' and 'rising again after three days' Where around in paganism long before Jesus came and did these 'miracles'
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: No

Okay, so, here's the deal. As any good fiction writer knows, you have to have a basis for the story down before you flesh it out. What I think the gentleman was trying to say is:If you are in control of the story, your prophecies will always be true.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: yes

I have witnessed, with may others, prophetic words that were not pre-arranged. I was with a church prophesy group, and one of the girls in our group suddenly felt like she was drowning in green. A girl suddenly walked by dressed only in green (well, I don't know about her underwear but the rest was green). Another person in our group suddenly felt a pain in thier wrist, and we found out the green stranger had broken her wrist. We prayed for her and it was healed.Just because you weren't there dosen't mean it didn't happen. There is equal proof for and against that event, very little, exept witnesses, and I was one.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: No

This "prophecy" is not very impressive at all. Feeling the color green, and then someone wearing the color green walked by doesn't seem out of the ordinary. A lot of people wear green, and this "prediction", if you can call it that, is very vague. Now if the person said, "I feel the presence of a person walking by, she is wearing all green, is 25 years old. She hurt her wrist last week while playing volleyball at Penn State University, since she plays for the team." Now this would be impressive, and worth studying to see if this person just got lucky, or had some unknown source of knowledge. This of course would still not prove a god conclusively, until it could be shown the god was the source of the knowledge. Most prophecy is vague, and the more general you make it, the more widely it is likely to apply.We need to clarify a quick part of your story. You stated that "We prayed for her and it was healed." You prayed for the girl in green, and her broken wrist was healed? Is it just that she no longer had pain, or that the wrist itself was no longer broken? I would ask two things. First, was the verified by a doctor that it was healed? Secondly, I'd assume she had her wrist in some type of cast. Did it occur to you that the healing process was going on before you even saw this girl, and that it was modern medicine that healed her? Honestly, this would be the most plausible conclusion.Also, from reading your story, it seems like you saw the girl in green before the other person felt pain in their wrist. Isn't it more likely that the person that felt the pain saw her brace/cast, and empathized with the girl's pain, and her body reacted to it?
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: No

Hi all first of all testimonies of this kind are common in all kind of faiths...and that ,why your YHWH didn't make that only exceptions for christianity ? why is it that other faiths/religions have their own miracles/testimonies like yours ? why ?  I had witness more miraculous cases than yours and they aren't christian !! just because you don't believe them doesn't mean your belief is factual either. Therefore ,without exceptions miracles/testimonies are common among all faiths/religions. it don't make christianity any more "true" than any other belief systems ok?best regards"How well we know ,what profitable superstition this Fable of christhas been for us." Pope Leo X (1513-1521)
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: No

That's because the New Testament was a sequel to the ultimately successful Old Testament. Nothing actually happened inbetween them, they just made the prophesies fit. Nothing in either book documents any actual history. It's just Christian Mythology. No different from the Egyptians, Greeks, or Romans before them.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: yes

your are very ignorant. a lot of the knowledge we have about ancient Israel and the nations around it come from the bible. also the history of the life of Jesus and early Christianity come form the bible. whether you believe in the events such as the resurrection of Jesus and all those miraculous events are up to you. but on the spiritual side of the debate, yes the bible is the ultimate authority on all things and and is completely accurate. being a Christan requires this belief.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: No

but on the spiritual side of the debate, yes the bible is the ultimate authority on all things and and is completely accurate. being a Christan requires this belief.No it doesn't.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: yes

yes it does. funny how you get three points for that statement when you alone have not supported it.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: No

I managed to support my argument with as much fact and logic as yourself, but I did it in three words. I think that's worthy of an upvote.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: yes

but the point is you did not. if i say all abortion doctors should be tried for murder. you would stop reading my statement. use the basics of debate please. state your proof and reason for fallacy claims before you make them.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: No

Very well.My proof is the entire Bible is made up. You have no proof to the contrary, and both observation and logic support my stance that the Bible is completely made up. Not a single scrap of paper or sheepskin from 2k years ago supports a single word of the Bible. Or anything from earlier in Biblical history. Yet every King, famine, and major socio-political event of this time has multiple sources, intact, and recounting events is a similar fashion.One would think at least a scrap of paper would have survived from some other source, other than the Bible, describing precisely what the Bible describes - in any chapter, it's a giant book for christ-sake, something should have an unbiased secondary supporting evidence somewhere.It does not have any supporting evidence, and further it is full of inconsistencies, self-contradictions, and ridiculous stories. Therefore I stand by my first, much shorter reply:"No it doesn't"
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: yes

first of all your claim that the bible is not real has no viability as you say my claim that the bible is real, so you got nowhere with that statement.anyway, umm yes the dead sea scrolls that are over 2000 years old show over 90 percent of modern translations are authentic to its ancient text, and the few percent difference is just grammatical difference. so disproved there. also the entire old testament was already finished 400 years before Jesus and the new testament meaning modern bibles did no alteration to the Torah and the Torah today is accurate to ancient Torahs we still have today, most notably in Israeli museums. there are also more ancient manuscripts that show todays bible is accurate to back than. your claim is blatantly ignorant and idiotic with out proof.as for scrap of papers, i just shown that there our numerous non Christan or Jewish sources that recount numerous biblical events. it only takes a little effort to type in a search on google to find these sites.but anyway thank you for supporting your claim. now we had a subject to argue about.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: No

That people are good at copying down the same thing over and over is not proof in itself.Name something that is not the exact same religious text, which recounts any of these events that happened in any part of the Bible.
Debate: Is the bible 100% true
Side: yes

first of all, usually you find truth from accounts of what people wrote and preserved, this is called history. but OK heres some sites.and surprisingly it may seem to you. there is no religious bias or zeal in it. so you may find it acceptable to read.