azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: False

I agree that you should be aware of what can happen if you have sex. But you can use protection, and sex is a joy that should be allowed to enhance a relationship. Even if the couple does not want children yet. Otherwise, what's the point in us creating protection? But sometimes the protection we use doesn't work. And it's not fair to punish a child to a suffering life over that.
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: True

But sometimes the protection we use doesn't work.When protection is used correctly, this is extremely rare. I hardly think it accounts for the millions of abortions that take place yearly.But sometimes the protection we use doesn't work. And it's not fair to punish a child to a suffering life over that.But it is fair to deny life itself?
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: True

"But you can use protection, and sex is a joy that should be allowed to enhance a relationship. Even if the couple does not want children yet. Otherwise, what's the point in us creating protection?"Fundamentally and Scientifically, the sole purpose of sex is reproduction. So my question is, how do you know whether or not society corrupted what sex really is turning it into something it's not?
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: True

Wait.....You think it's terrible to put a child into a foster home????
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: False

I'd rather not be born than live a life where I am in perpetual suffering and only further a stigma based around impoverished and unwed parents.
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: False

no mother on this planet would really go forward for murdering her child.But this statement is exclusively true for ''mothers'' i believe and not the '' non mothers''.Everybody possesses the right to get attracted towards opposite sex and make love with both of their mutual appreciation,making love of-course do makes a difference in people's life.Its the way how almighty created ur with millions of hormones which induces our sensuality.If sex was something really wrong then god himself would have created some other alternative for expanding the human race.Why would he created the desire which exists in every normal people.The desire should have lasted only once or twice in a life as per requirement.People we are living in a probabilty surrounded era where every mechanical and non mechanical things have some or more failures.If precaution fails during love making, its just a matter of bad luck and abortion happens to be the best way to superceed it.If a girl gets pregnant at an early age, would other people invest their time and effort to take care of that unexpected child,just try and think that the girl might have got a life of her own where she might have expected a goal in her academics as well as non academics fields.There's a saying that if right thing done at some wrong time, then it does more harm than good.And if people still think that if precation fails, then a girl sholdn't go for giving birth to a child to whiom she is incapabale of giving a better life, should probably eradicate their cars if the fuel goes down unexpectedly. Mehul talks..
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: False

This is not always true, what about if a child got raped, and got pregnant? Does she deserve to have a baby? What if a smart grad got raped, does she deserve to possibly ruin her life? But if a woman just doesn't use protection and doesn't care about having a baby or not and just changed her mind about it then, yes that is unfair.
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: False

If the child was born it could end up living a horrible life, so living in poverty and suffering is better than not being born? They aren't sentient when abortion happens, it's not like killing a human being, I don't think those people understand the science of developing into a hulan being and abortion, you have NO real arguments.
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: True

Who are you to decide for another person whether or not they want life or not?If they aren't humans then what are they? Look at Law of Biogenesis.So should an infant be killed because he/she is still developing? If development is the determining factor then any person under 40 can be killed because your brain doesn't stop developing until then. If we decide its someone before then, then we become like Hitler who killed people based on them not being developed enough evolutionarily (Jews, Blacks, etc.). Are you better than Hitler?
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: False

Okay. In most cases, by the time the fetus is aborted it is merely a clump of cells. No organs, no brain. Just cells splitting. That brings up the question about "souls" and religion. And the truth of the matter is we are a couintry with the freedom of religion (or NOT to have a religion). Remember. Seperation of church and state. If we based all laws off of religion we would stone people, have slaves (still), and not be aloud to go out on Sundays
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: True

Actually, if we didn't have religion then we would still have slaves. A lot of the main abolitionists were clergymen and the entire movement was a religious movement to stop inequality.But, nevertheless, so you are for murdering another human being?
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: False

This presupposes that the "clump of cells" is a human being, this idea sounds ridiculous. Why is it wrong to "kill" a clump of cells, but it's perfectly fine to kill elephants, deers, and other game for sport? Those animals have a much more highly developed brain and ability to feel pain than this clump of cells does. This "clump of cells" is not a human yet, it is only a series of cells dividing, so it should not receive rights.
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: True

What is it then? If it isn't human then what is it?If you are going to determine whether or not we should kill something based on development then we have become like nazi germany saying that the Jews and Blacks are not as well evolutionarily developed yet. If you want to think like Hitler, then go ahead, but once you act upon those beliefs, you are a murderer
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: False

What is it then? If it isn't human then what is it?It is merely a fertilized egg dividing repeatedly. How can we call it murder when it's not even a human yet? The mere potential to become a human does not equal being a human. If you are going to determine whether or not we should kill something based on development then we have become like nazi germany saying that the Jews and Blacks are not as well evolutionarily developed yet. If you want to think like Hitler, then go ahead, but once you act upon those beliefs, you are a murdererI understand what you are trying to say, but you are clearly misunderstanding my point. In regards to your statement saying we have become like nazi germany, we can clearly see through scientific evidence that the embryo lacks a brain or the brain is just beginning initial steps of development. This is not mere speculation without evidence as with the Nazi's baseless idea that the Aryan race was superior to all.
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: False

I do not agree with the assumption that life begins at the moment of conception. I do not understand why people believe the government can force a woman to continue a pregnancy against her will. This is merely opening the possibility for the government to force other medical procedures on people.
Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: False

Religious practice is a selfish act to alleviate an undesirable consequence, but you don't hear me bitching about other people partaking in it.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Looks like some parallels between abortion and slavery, if you think abortion is ok then you agree also with slavery.Slavery in centuries past and abortions in this century were defended and promoted by the same arguments. Consider the case in the USA: In 1857, in the Dred Scott case, the US Supreme Court decided, by a 7 to 2 majority, that according to the US Constitution, black people were not legal persons. They were the property of the owner. He could buy, or sell, or even kill them. Abolitionists had objected. The ruling was outrageous, they said. It was immoral and discriminated against an entire class of living persons solely on the basis of skin colour. But those who supported slavery argued that if those who had a moral objection to slavery, didn't have to own slaves. No one was forcing them to own slaves. But they also said: "Don't force your morality on the slave owner. He has the right to choose to own slaves if he wishes."In a very similar decision just over one hundred years later, in 1973, in the Roe vs Wade Decision, the US Supreme Court decided that according to the US Constitution, by the same 7 to 2 majority, that unborn people were not legal persons. They had no civil rights, no human rights and were therefore, legally the property of the owner (the mother). She had the absolute legal right to keep or destroy her unborn baby. Pro-life people objected. The ruling was outrageous, they said. It was immoral and discriminated against an entire class of living people solely on the basis of age (too young) and place of residence (the womb). But those who support abortion argue that those who have a moral objection to abortion, don't have to have abortions. The pro-abortionists say: "No one is fordcing you to have an abortion. But don't force your morality on the mother. She has a right to choose to kill her developing baby if she wishes."Abraham Lincoln in the 19th century said: "No one has the right to do what is wrong." 6This country has just ended discrimination based on race. Are we now going to start discrimination on the basis of age? Saying:"I'm older than you, I'm bigger than you, I have a voice - therefore I can kill you."
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Alright, this is a great argument. In the end this is going to get down to a simple opinion: Does life begin at conception, or at birth? I believe it's birth, you believe it's conception. If someone gets raped, I believe that if they so wish, they may get an abortion, thus killing the child who is, in my mind, not yet truly a living human being. As you said,This country has just ended discrimination based on race. Are we now going to start discrimination on the basis of age?I know that this is an unrelated question, but do you believe in gay marriage? If the answer is no, you are contradicting yourself. Discrimination based on age and discrimination based on sexual orientation...yeah a bit off topic. Just curious.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

like i said it has a heartbeat memory intelegence therefore it is qualified as living and its heart beat is tottally seperate from the mother therefore yes its a human being my aunt was raped and had an abortion and says every day she regrets it bcuz she knows it was not the babys fault what happened and she is worse than the man who raped her for killing her own baby
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Your mostly talking from emotional opinion, rationally however a baby is living as soon as it is fertilized. And then grows in different stages. And you can’t tell me that a couple days before a women is in labor that the baby isn’t living.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Very interesting !!! However in referring to Dredd Scott you defeat your own agreement. As you state "It was immoral and discriminated against an entire class of living persons solely on the basis of skin colour." The key phrase here is "living person", IMO and in the opinion of most doctors a zygote or a blastophere is not alive. IMO a fetus in the 3rd trimester is alive, and like many pro-freedom/pro-choice folks I support (reasonable) late term abortion bans.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Abortion stops a beating heart, Daddy. No mammal can exist without a beating heart, so when an abortion is performed, a life is extinguished.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

WOA! okay for a while the fetus has gills. No mammal can exist without lungs sooooo... i guess now they arnt even considered HUMAN! but no im not going to go that far because im not that ignorant
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_popout&v=fKyljukBE70#!A Now, you tell me from the moment of conception, this marvelously created being is NOT a human, not a person? If you do, you are a fool, and it's futile to argue against such foolishness.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

True, a fetutus life-ness might be considered not trully alive, but an interesting thing about defining something as alive is that they must go though the basic life processes, including reproduction. Since abortion is interfering with the natural act of reproduction, abortion is going against part of what makes us alive.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

It's the ability to reproduce that is one of the defining features of life. Stopping the act of reproduction through abortion does not go against that ability, as the mother, (and humans as a species), are still able to reproduce. Also, you would have to be against any form of contraception if you stick to your argument. Maybe you are.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Even when the baby is but a zygote, a fertilized egg, the child shows intelligent behavior. Dr. Condic from the University of Utah’s School of Medicine states:"Human embryos from the one-cell (zygote) stage forward show uniquely integrated, organismal behavior that is unlike the behavior of mere human cells. The zygote produces increasingly complex tissues, structures, and organs that work together in a coordinated way…. This organized, coordinated behavior of the embryo is the defining characteristic of a human organism. (Condic 4)." If you want a more in-depth explanation of why life starts at conception, this article does a very good job of explaining it:https://lozierinstitute.org/a-scientific-view-of-when-life-begins/
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

The 'parallels' between slavery and abortion that you have proposed are absolutely disgusting. You have made up a correlation between these things when there really isn't one. Your correlation is based solely on how the two issues were handled in the US Court System. Seeing as though both issues went through the same reasoning and debate process obviously they will be handled in the same way and appear to be alike. Pro choicers do not discriminate against the fetus' because of their age, they discriminate against them because they are not even developed human beings. They have no human faculties. They are piles of cells. A dog has no legal rights in this country because it is not a developed human being and has no human faculties. Laws only apply to people, not the blueprints of people. Lets say for instance that 10 workers plan to build a house from scratch. They have no materials, only their knowledge of houses. Are the 10 workers a house? No, they are the potential of a house. The cells of a fetus are the workers and humans are the house. You argument has no intellectual or moral basis and is cemented in an argument which compares the legal process' of two different ideas which were run through the same system. The fact that your argument has so much support just shows how ignorant the people against abortion are on this website.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

You made another amazing point, Jawkins. I never thought about it that way, in connection with slavery. But what you stated was right on. Same arguments, same bad decisions.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

The arguments while appearing similar are not.I slavery there is a minium of 2 roles, the slave and the master. The master projects his authority over the slave. However in the case of the pro-life view there are a minimum of three roles involved, the woman, the unborn child, and the pro-life church. Your argument tries to link the unborn child to the slave and the mother to the master, but you fail to take into account the relationship of the pro-life church. The role of the the pro-life church like the slave master over the mother.This of course all relies on the the belief of when fetus is considered a person. If you look at the pro-choice view, there is a longer period of time before the fetus is considered a person. In this view, the slave analogy, the only relationship left is the mother as the slave to the will of the pro-life church master. The problem that many pro-choice people have with people trying to take away abortion rights is that the pro-life church is using the Government to impose the church's will on a selection of other people that there is absolutely no doubt to them being actual people. The government should not enforce religious ideology on those who do not agree with that Ideology but the pro-life stance demands just that. Many good Christians detest and are outraged with the state mandated religious laws forcing Muslim women in Iran and Afghanistan to wear hijabs or burqas. Why should the Christian church be able to force it's views on the women of the United States?Abortions should be a last resort, and it is something only a woman with the accurate and honest advice of a doctor can decide on. No church, no government, no body else has the right to insert themselves into this situation. And even if we agree that the fetus is a person much earlier, that still does not mean the church or a politician can speak for that unborn child so they still have no right to interfere.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

@JawkinYou know what man? Your a better hero than batman. ...We need more people like you - who can voice out for the voiceless.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Why is abortion right? Simple it is an admission of guilt to a felony crime made publicly.Why is abortion wrong? Simple it is an admission of guilt to a felony crime made publicly with a transformable self- incrimination that can be cast on the publicWhy else is pregnancy abortion wrong? Its use is out of context set by official understanding. The term abort is a pause/stop made in an official start of an event, by which a life threating, or dangerous malfunction is the motivation of paused/stop to allow a determination to either terminate, or proceed with the official process. The aborted process is allowed to continue till its natural completion.It is Ironic but the argument of debate for abortion applies to a woman as she only ever pauses death created when she does not have sexual relations, or artificial insemination, not with the stopping a pregnancy that is on going.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Slavery 1857 the reasons a slave did not have any described United States Constitutional right was caused by lack of representation of record on emancipation from united state of prisoner of war. As wording emancipation is simply re-describing publicly free as equal to liberty and it is not by fact that way. The point of the argument in court was made against the United States Constitution for not having a definition of meaning which could ever describe a man, woman , or child as not having self-value or appointed cost, and this definition is still missing today.Ironically the liberty of the slaves of the South should be attributed to Abraham Lincoln by a Military decree as executive order, in services rendered by foreign prisoners of war setting a larger boundary for civility and independence.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Technically abortion is murder. They are killing the baby without a justified motive. Simply because having a baby would be an inconvenience is the same as killing your parents simply because their existence would be inconvenient for you, and that would be murder right?
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

No, that would be incorrect. It would not be murder, because the fetus is not a person. It has not acquired any of the qualities of person hood until like week 22-25 or something like that. They are killing the baby without a justified motive.It's a fetus, not a person.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Fetus is the same compared to a person, just that fetus is not fully developed. Thus, a fetus deserve the right to live in this world.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

A fetus could not live out side of the womb not in its current state of fetus...ness (haha dont judge) im just saying, for a while that fetus has gills...making it a fish
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

This is a myth that has been long dispelled. Humans develop gill slits when in the womb, but they are NOT gills and not functional. I believe the idea you are referring to is "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny", a theory prevalent around the turn of the 19th to 20th century. It has long been shown false - fetuses are never fish.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Im pro-choice but do not sit there and act like it wasnt taking a human life, its still heartbreaking to think sombody just took the life of a baby that somone else could have loved, I think abortion laws and adoption laws are flawed and are the cause of these debates. Yes a women should do whatever she wants becouse it is her body however it shows she is an evil person if she just didnt feel like raising a child over having sex without protection.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Fetus means little one. How do you not know this, Markie? What has your public edumication afforded you, except to turn you away from the Truth which is Jesus? By the way, I was raised Catholic and at the age of nine, I remember vividly the day a priest lied to us about the Bible being filled with nice fairy tales. At the age of eighteen I knew the evolution I was learning in biology class was lies too. Way before I accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Saviour, my spirit was in tune with the Truth which is Jesus.