azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Ok.You're now officially making ludicrous points. Congrats.Gargantuous isn't even close to the word which is used to describe the difference between a sperm cell and an unborn fetus: A sperm cell has not yet entered the fertilisation process; a fetus has.You said it yourself: There are thousands of sperm. There are also many eggs in a female. If you masterbate, it isn't the end of the sperm world! There are still going to be thousands upon thousands more and ready to be concieved! So please do not BS this debate and say that sperm = fetus, because it is completely wrong.Lose a sperm cell, no big deal; lose a fetus, there is something to be concerned with.No need to over-explain, your whole argument was wrong anyway.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Hey, sperm does not equal fetus. What iamdavidh is trying to say is that sperm equals same category as fetus! SAME CATEGORY!!!!! POTENTIAL LIFE! get it? I'll say it again: IT'S NOT A PERSON LIKE YOU AND I WHO CAN ASK "WHY" OR "HOW". The fetus is a "thing". It's parasitic in relationship with its host. It can feel pain? My arm can feel pain! My arm has all the human DNA to make another human being, so do sperms and eggs. The fetus can certainly become a person but before it does, it's NOT. NOT A PERSON! P.O.T.E.N.T.I.A.L. ONLY!
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Well I'm sorry (not literally) that you feel so categorical towards the development of human life. Some of us, who actually believe in a reproduction with effort, look at a fetus AS HUMAN LIFE. While it may be a scrambled cluster of cells, it is already developing beyond the category of "potential," regardless of self-awareness. Any scientist will tell you what reproduction means the world to the human race.Maybe it's a parasite to you, but it's something completely different in the end isn't it?Look, I don't care about all this BS with "what is a child and what isn't," it isn't even the point of my argument.My point is that a child cannot voice an opinion, and that sometimes, to prevent the worst, someone has to voice it for them. If we were all like you, saying that it should be completely up to the mother, then there'll be no need to second guess how the population will be affected.For all you know, you could be aborting the next 'potential' President, or the next 'potential' anything! No-one can say how that'll change things, after all, the only means of comparison has just been scraped out of a woman's womb.So Mr. Potential, have a nice day, and have a hard, long think about the 'potential life' that isn't even given the chance to survive!
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

The reason I'm breaking it all down for all you pro-life people is that YOU ALL feel the need to project YOUR GUILT on others who has the view that they're not killing a person! It's your guilt, not others'. Feel it yourself! Go to confession if you're Catholic. Do whatever you need to do.You all keep telling us that it's murder! I can safely say that about 9/10 arguments found on here are based upon that ONE SINGLE point, which may I add is completely incorrect! It's how we see it. If you don't like that, then we pity you. Just don't force your view on us and then try to push for a law that govern our lives too!Reproduction means the world to the human race? What about unchecked reproduction like in China and India where the one child policy has created more problems and actual murders then is necessary?We all agree that at the end of the 9 months it's an actual human life. I actually made the point that at week 20 it has a slight chance of survival and should be saved, as society can now intervene.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

"You all keep telling us that it's murder!"Murder is not the word that I would use.I see an abortion as an unnecessary decision, one which could have been prevented but instead has been inconsiderately acted upon. Instead of hitting the problem on the head, we are circling the issue. By this I refer to the fact that an unwanted pregnancy is the source of the problem, yet we do nothing to stop this issue; instead, we are nailing the leaf and not the stem by aborting the unwanted child. So, while unwanted pregnancies climb, so do the rate of abortion.Were we to actually decide that we should perhaps try to solve the problem of unwanted pregnancies, we would finally be making a difference. We just need to make certain that education finds a way to influence the minds of all teens and couples, so that an unwanted pregnancy becomes a thing of the past, as will abortion. Then we simply push abortion to the side, as we will have finally killed a major weed in the garden of life.In another argument, you stated that we should instead outlaw unprotected sex, which is the biggest amount of BS that I have heard in this debate! Think about it: suddenly we are no longer able to freely create as we please, pro-creation becomes a thing of the past, and the rate of childbirth drops in the high thousands. And as for 'fining' unprotected sex or using 'jail-time' as a punishment; that is just plain stupid. The Government can have a say in education, but they cannot examine each and every couple for a condom each and every time that they have sex. It would be a full time job with prostitutes.So, hopefully I've cleared up a few things, and hopefully you finally understand where I am coming from.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Ok, if you really want to "hit the problem on the head" or "nail the stem" then what you want to do is deal with unprotected sex! That's where the source of the problem is, a pregnancy is the result of THAT! You don't see that?You go on and on and on about education, which I'm not opposing at all. I'm all for education. What you've failed to do is come up with any feasible educational solution at all, then you even reject my best suggestion to deal with the problem at hand, and you reject it with your BS logic that makes no sense. Your only answer to this thing is making abortion illegal, that's a great solution pal! Way to deal with everything! Let's just make everything illegal, even if only a portion of the community FEELS it should be!... You people make me sick!
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Ok, I see the problem now (and it's not the fact that you're 15 because I don't care about your age or gender), it is: you are unable to form any comprehensible form of logics in any of your arguments. Initially I thought I was debating with someone of fair intelligence with the ability to make clear logical arguments, but that opinion has simply dissipated. It scares me that people like you could be in parliament affecting lots of lives. Here's why:You say "abortion is a problem, not a solution" - ummm this is YOUR VIEW. My view is that it's NOT a problem but a RESULT of unwanted pregnancies (which is the real problem (and you admit this in the next couple of sentences. Your point is now out the window, so let's see you actually rebut that directly with something else. Alas you probably will, but not with logic.An episode of Maury Povich? Is that a fictional TV show? You're using that as a basis for your educational system? FYI, the guest speaker tactic has been done to death everywhere. But its impact is still minimal, it's not reaching enough people. Again, my suggestion of putting a hefty fine on unwanted pregnancies would have more impact.Ok I'm not going to chew your "making a law on abstinence" to pieces, it's essentially dealing with the problem of unwanted pregnancies. We may have some common ground here. I've actually moved past the "banning unprotected sex" arguments to now suggest "making unwanted pregnancies expensive and coupling it with something rehabilitative like a compulsory education on the whole thing."The problem of rape has already been dealt with. It's called ILLEGAL and includes a jail term. No need to discuss that here.Banning abortion wouldn't be necessary if you're actually dealing with the problem, which is unwanted pregnancies. So you say that you're not one who push their belief on others and that you're "educative". Then you should stop calling for a ban on abortion. You say you do a lot of research and self-educating on the topic, how come you think banning something will make it go away? If you continue to argue with a belligerent disregard for logic, I will have no choice but think you an unworthy debater and disengage.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

You demand logic? Try demanding some sense out of yourself!Did you actually read the whole thing? My whole argument? Or did you just skip a few lines along the way through???My point overall was that this debate is biased and complex, and that no sound amount of "logic" is going to convince anyone.This topic demands what a person "thinks" and "feels," not how he pulls out a statistic or two and calls a problem an "effect." The correct answer is that an abortion is both, and yet you fail to see how I have clearly solved the problem for both sides.Rape is illegal, and yet it still happens. Think about that.If you actually "pieced" my arguments together, you would actually notice that I am actually not calling for an immediate ban on abortions. With the right plan, an abortion will no longer be necessary, and will be naught but bad memories.I give you educational examples and you deny them without giving them a second thought. Wow, that shows a lot of character. Clearly you are the most biased debater on this site."If you continue to argue with a belligerent disregard for logic, I will have no choice but to think you an unworthy debater and disengage."Wow, you've shattered me, that makes me reconsider everything, knowing that in your vision I am some f#cking pro-creationist who only gives a damn about his own f#cking opinion! You know what? I'm done with this BS, I shouldn't have bothered replying to you. You clearly show little respect towards me based on my beliefs. Do I make you sick? Good, I hope it lasts for a long time.You know something, if it wasn't for your 4th paragraph, I would have thought that you could never learn.Regardless, you clearly are too biased to see my point, and that is why I am done trying to convince you. I'll do my usual and just present more speeches and win more awards, after all, people in the real world actually think my ideas are worthwhile.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

You do speeches? Who actually corrects your grammar for you? I can't believe I have the patience to wade through the grammatically incorrect sentences and illogical structures of your arguments. Half the time I'm not even sure you're on point, I mean I don't even know what you're arguing for any more. Are you against a ban on abortion or not? It's a clear topic. You may have all the hearts to be a great debater, but that's all you've got at the moment.If you believe that this topic demands the "thoughts" and "feelings" of people, not on statistics and logics, how then will you convince legislators to make laws for your cause? They only work on facts, logics, numbers. "Rape is illegal, and yet it still happens" is this an argument Against or For a ban on abortion? I DID consider your educational example, and I also gave it a thought, but don't ask me to give it a second thought. I already told you it's not an original idea to go around doing talks. It's been done since people know how to talk. It's been done to death! If you're got a "right plan" to make abortions "no longer be necessary", then let's hear it, but you'll need to be more imaginative then doing talks.Good luck with that. I hope you win many awards :) But if you're fighting for a ban on abortion, don't expect us to be your friend, least of all, me.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

A man has several billions of sperm, each potentially capable of creating human life. A man does not create several billions of children in his lifetime, and he does not lose all sperm during sleep, within the body or when he masturbates.Think about that, then don't reply, you will get the same answer should you decide to.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

You haven't made any new points with this at all!!! If there's any points in here at all it's "because it's numerous, it's not as important"!!! That's just bs. BS to the MAX.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Close, but no.Men could potentially create numerous babies at a time. Women can only have one egg fertilizing at a time, with an approximate 9 month waiting period until childbirth.Think about those figures: Numerous conceptions - 9 Month waiting period with only one egg at a time.It isn't a case of 'that isn't as important,' as you assumed, it is a case of 'this can happen much faster than that can!'
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

"much faster..." so we're talking about speed? I don't get how this is at all relevant... You've lost me I'm afraid.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Good, you're not important anyway.People like you don't get this sort of thing.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

So you continue to argue without making a valid point for your side? I should report you.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: After education

No, you just don't see my point, and that is why I don't bother anymore.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Do you see your own point? Don't post on here any more. It's polluting the debate. You've haven't posted anything of original value here and you haven't even made a very good job of re-writing other's arguments either.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Go ahead. I dare you. It isn't my problem that you cannot understand what I am saying. I know for a fact that others on here do, so whatever really.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

I have in fact reported you. I don't know how it works, but ideally they should ban you from this debate at the very least, if not the entire site. Whether it'll happen is up to how good admin for this site is...
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: After education

Sure, kill 'em off one by one.Hey, I just noticed, that applies a hell of a lot to your arguments doesn't it?Seeing as you think I post BS, I reported you as well, as in each of my posts is actually something regarding the topic, yet right here you haven't mentioned anything.Abortions are wrong in my point of view. Done.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Jeesh, why are all you pro-lifers on this debate so incredibly dense?You completely missed the point of my billions of sperm argument.I was shooting down a specific argument in the pro-holier-than-now-I-refuse-to-mind-my- own-business arsenal.And that is the dramatically flawed potential life argument.The only argument pro-life has is that the cluster of cells is alive.Okay fine, I'm through arguing that. You guys think you know more than science so obviously I'm not going to convince you otherwise.What I can argue though is that if the tragedy here is the potential life lost. Then it is logically irrefutable that lost sperm is just as tragic.Therefore, masturbation should be illegal, sex with your wife if she is barren should be illegal, sex if you're shooting blanks should be illegal, wet dreams should be illegal, etc.Regardless of the numbers involved, a potential life is still a potential life.So logically, if abortion is banned, so should (by pro-lifer logic even) all those things listed.There's no way for you to escape that. Not that your arguments have ever been bound by logic thus far.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

I would go as far as saying that before the fetus can digest milk (which means it can be sustained without direct connection to the mother via the umbilical cord), it is a dependent part of the mother like any other organ and she should have the choice to remove it. After that, society could have a say (because society can theoretically keep it alive with milk).
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

By the end of the 1st trimester a baby . . . has started to develop blood vessels, brain, spinal cord, nervous system, eyes, ears, arms, legs, mouth, nose, thyroid gland, tongue, color of retina, fingers, toes, joints, teeth, facial muscles, eyelids, fingerprints, fingernails, vocal chords, and taste buds the heart has begun to beat makes reflex movements, swallows, and practices 'breathing' every organ is presentI want you to read that and tell me this is not a baby.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

great, another one.I've read it. I've read it a million times on this lame debate alone. You're not saying anything new, there's no great revelation anywhere in your arguement.None of what you say in any way points toward any kind of self-awareness. Science says it's not a baby, and nothing you said will stop a single abortion from happening.So stop, find another cause. Abortions have been going on since the beginning of time and all this foaming-at-the-mouth zealous ignorance has never stopped a single one. Every time in history you zealous foaming-at-the-mouth looney tunes have gotten your way and made abortion illegal it has lead to nothing but a bunch of dead little girls from botched abortions, and still not a single abortion is ever stopped.If you don't want an abortion, you don't have to get one. But if some poor young girl thinks that's her best option, then that's her choice.If god or whoever doesn't like it, then he can come down here and tell her himself.Stay out of it.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Science says it's not a baby.I beg to differ.Science said it is a baby.The baby has its own DNA and at nine weeks he has a heartbeat.A baby at twelve weeks is very complex.Every organ is present.This link lists the development of a baby in the womb.PLEASE READ THIS!!!!!!!
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

My penis has all the DNA in it to make a life. It is a very complex organ. It can feel pain and often has a mind of its own. It reacts to sounds and temperatures as well as the sight of something it likes. It will be heartbreaking for me to lose it, so it's a difficult choice for me. But if I want to get rid of it, it should be my choice and not anybody else's choice!
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Nobody cares about what you say about your private parts. The point is, science is against the claim that fetuses are non living. Fetuses are living. Take Biology 101 or get off this site. You do not belong here. You belong in prison for the murder of many innocent human lives in development. Oh and uh...one more thing....Round kicks you in the groin and punches you in the face three times, knocking you out.You're done here. Your arguments are invalidated.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Why counter a wrong with a equally wrong action?The evil of abortion is equal to the evil of rape.Only 1% of all abortions are performed because of rape or incest. (Guttmacher Institute)
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Uh helloim, please switch your side....you are on the side that bans abortion....Sometimes it switches you at random.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

I find the fact that there are instances where women think that it is right to abort the birth of a child is incredibly outrageous! To think that people would rather cut of life in its entirety than to take wiser options, such as setting their child up for an adoption, or even personally entrusting the baby to someone close to them. If I could 'personally' define the word 'abortion,' then it would be as follows:'ABORTION: The term refers to the irrational decision to KILL the child before it has been birthed from the womb'I am not going to sugar-coat abortions, because it's true, they are nothing short of murder! 'The children are killed before they can even process the thought' is one term that I have seen a few times in this debate (of course they have been worded differently, but again, I am not here to sugar-coat this sort of thing), and I can say that the mother/father has STOLEN the right and privilege of thought from these children by killing them. They have also denied them of love, care, protection and most of all, they have denied them of a life.As I have stated previously, I cannot even begin to understand why so many pregnant women do not consider putting the child up for an adoption rather than simply cutting the child off completely! Surely the majority of you all would agree with me that a child has its rights even if it cannot understand them! But the second that an abortion begins, you have stripped that child of it's rights, and there is no way that you can ever make amends. And no, I am not trying to send anyone on a guilt-trip, but I would be glad to know that some of you have come to realize what exactly an abortion does, and not just to think of the process as "stabbing someone in the vagina."
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Putting more children up for adoption when there are already hundreds of thousands of children waiting to be adopted is ridiculous if you really think about it. Most of these children are put into foster care where they spend part of their lives with 6 or 7 other kids being miserable because they are being moved around 15 or 16 times in a year. We have all heard about how traumatizing foster care can be for a lot of children who end up having a lot of mental issues and distress when they are older. Yeah you may be keeping a child a live but when you think about what they have to go through as children in the system is it really worth it? And not to mention if they do get adopted young and find out when they are older it is going to be extremely hard for them. When people get abortions the baby cant process it or know!! What is the baby going to miss or know if they are never born nothing. Its not like they are going to be born to another family and say oh yeah i had a mother once but she got rid of me before i was born.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Before it's able to survive outside of the woman's womb, it's only a potential life, not an actual life. Society cannot keep it alive so society should not interfere. As a potential, it is in the same class as a single egg or sperm. Of course, once birthed the child still has no guarantee of life due to SIDS, diseases, etc... but at least it has a better chance of survival. So, before the period of 20 weeks, it has no chance of survival outside of the womb, so the woman should have the choice of keeping it or not.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

You were also only a potential life when you were 2 years old but did your mother strangle you?