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Debate: Money Can't Buy Happiness.... Or Can It?
Side: Gimme money!!!

okay, for me if i have a child, i can never sell my child even how much money someone pays me because my child is my happiness. or lets say you have all the money in the world but someone you love was diagnosed very ill , cannot be cured, and will die in a few days by the best doctor in the world you paid.Even if you give all your money to the doctor, that someone will still die. or if you have all the money in the world but youre stuck on a deserted island alone and nobody can find you there until you die, will you be happy?.Can money give you happiness?I think with money we can pursue happiness.. but its not a guarantee that we can buy happiness with money.
Debate: Money Can't Buy Happiness.... Or Can It?
Side: No, it can't.

then we are talking about money where they was useful in the city not in the desert
Debate: Money Can't Buy Happiness.... Or Can It?
Side: Gimme money!!!

I MAY ONLY BE SIXTEEN AND MAYBE SOME MAY SAY MY ARGUMENT IS BASED ON AGE BUT DU-UH I DO HAVE BRAINS.WITH INVENTIONS EVERYDAY AND EVERYBODY TRYING TO BE SUCCESSFUL AT EVERYTHING THEY ENGAGE THEMSELVES IN,ITS BECOMING PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT THERE IS NO HAPPINESS WITHOUT MONEY.NO AMOUNTS OF LOVE CAN MAKE YOU WEALTHY BUT IF YOU WEALTHY THAN YOUR HAPPINESS RELIES ON WHO YOU CHOOSE TO SPEND YOUR MONEY WITH.IF YOU DON'T AGREE THAN ITS QUIET CLEAR YOU DON'T HAVE A MONEY MAKING MINDSET
Debate: Money Can't Buy Happiness.... Or Can It?
Side: Gimme money!!!

MONEY IS SOMETHING WHICH GIVES US HAPPINESS FOR A WHILE BUT AFTER SOME TIME ,THAT HAPPINESS BECOME A DAILY THING N WE START GETTING BORE FROM IT,,,, AND AGAIN THE SEARCH OH HAPPINESS BEGIN!!!!!!!!!!
Debate: Money Can't Buy Happiness.... Or Can It?
Side: Gimme money!!!

There is no guarantee that money can buy happiness, but one thing is for certain, a lack of money (i.e. poverty) will make most people unhappy!
Debate: Money Can't Buy Happiness.... Or Can It?
Side: Gimme money!!!

No it can't directly but it can provide financial security which can create a feeling of safety, this can lead to a relaxed life= happiness. And in reverse a lack of money can lead to financial hardship which causes stress= less happiness
Debate: Money Can't Buy Happiness.... Or Can It?
Side: Gimme money!!!

Oh my god, so many hypocrits on the left side! Money rules the world, can't you get it and yes you can buy happiness with money otherwise forget about presents and smiles on your faces when you get them, forget about college/ university, forget about art and fashion, forget about travelling and going out, don't tell me you dont care how you look or how you spend your time, go live as a recluse - then we''ll talk
Debate: Money Can't Buy Happiness.... Or Can It?
Side: No, it can't.

That happiness isn't of the money, that transient ecstatic feeling is solely because of the product or item you had purchased with it.
Debate: Money Can't Buy Happiness.... Or Can It?
Side: Gimme money!!!

And you can purchase that product only, because money is exist. And of course, knowing that you have tons of money, no matter what, makes you depressed, right? Stored buying power means you a thing, at all?
Debate: Money Can't Buy Happiness.... Or Can It?
Side: Gimme money!!!

Let's face the reality. I strongly agree that money really can buy happiness. Let say money can't buy happiness but why a person was disappointed when his not getting any present for his birthday.Don't be hyprocrites. :D
Debate: Money Can't Buy Happiness.... Or Can It?
Side: Gimme money!!!

Money can buy happiness. With money, you can go shopping everyday and buy all the things you want that will make you happy.
Debate: Money Can't Buy Happiness.... Or Can It?
Side: Gimme money!!!

You can buy anything :DAND ABOUT THE FRIENDS AND FAMILY, YOU CAN HAVE THEM, OF COURSE THERE ARE FAKE FRIENDS, BUT THERE ARE ALSO REAL FRIENDS WHO WILL NOT ONLY TAKE ADVANTAGE OF YOUR MONEY. THEY MAKE YOU HAPPY. END.
Debate: Money Can't Buy Happiness.... Or Can It?
Side: Gimme money!!!

Money can buy happiness.For Example: With money you can buy a jet ski, you ride the jet ski and you are not sad, you are happy. Have you seen anyone on a Jet Ski who is sad? Pretty sure not. Also, the fuel for the Jet Ski isn't that expensive which means that the happiness can last for a long time.
Debate: Money Can't Buy Happiness.... Or Can It?
Side: Gimme money!!!

The answer is clear when you apply a "Necessary or Sufficient" standard to assess it.Is it "sufficient" to have money to be completely happy? No. No of course not. And this is where examples of love and health and quality of life come in.Is it "necessary" to have money to be completely happy? Oh, absolutely. Until aliens conquer the planet and abolish the whole concept of money you will always need some of it in some form in order to eat and survive.Basically, if as a youngster fresh out of school you pursue happiness with zero attention to the money then you have fun for a remarkably short time and then crash and fail and end up living with your parents again. Which will probably make you unhappy for the rest of your life.
Debate: Money Can't Buy Happiness.... Or Can It?
Side: Gimme money!!!

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Debate: Money Can't Buy Happiness.... Or Can It?
Side: Gimme money!!!

Years ago I would have said a clear conscience, security and love give you true happiness, but then along comes someone with an accusation that you dont have the money to fight and you get stuck in a whirlwind of the destruction of everything you have struggled for, finding the love that you thought existed, didn't, there is no security and a clear conscience means nothing when someone has the means and support behind their lies. Give me money any day. At least then there would be an even footing and the provisions for proving innoscence.
Debate: Money Can't Buy Happiness.... Or Can It?
Side: Gimme money!!!

money is everything .money can buy you a house ,good things to eat and cosy bed to sleep.but without a single penny in the night you will be wandering on the streets for money .so that you can buy food.so that you can sleep on a cosy bed .so money can and does bring happiness .
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: true

Hello G,That’s true. But it has nothing to do with being poor, and everything to do with not knowing how to save. Frankly, most of the people criticizing the poor don’t have a clue how to save themselves. For example, most people wait till the bills are paid and if anything is left over, they’ll save it. But of course, there’s never anything left over at the end of the month.  The way to save is to treat your savings like a bill and pay yourself first every month. Then, use the shit out of compound interest. Most people have no clue what compound interest is. Can’t save millions if you don’t.  OK, compound interest is when you earn interest on interest. You don’t have to understand it. Just make sure the account you deposit your savings in, compounds quarterly.  Please don’t tell my Jewish friends that I let you in on the secret. excon
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: true

Jewish wisdom on money? I'll take that ;) .
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: no

The way to save is to treat your savings like a bill and pay yourself first every month.Bronto Award for the Day
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: no

But it has nothing to do with being poor, and everything to do with not knowing how to save.No, it has everything to do with being poor. "Not knowing how to save" is just a different way of saying they're poor. If poor people want to save, they will save.But of course, there's never anything left over at the end of the month.Who gets paid by the month, apart from teachers? Most bills are monthly, but paychecks come every week or two.
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: true

I think for the most part, the post has the situation misinterpreted. It isn't really the case that poor people don't try to save money; but that people who don't try to save money are much likelier to end up poor.
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: true

This is true based on about 7 out of 10 Americans have little or no savings. But read more into that than just the poor. A huge swath of people who are not poor also don't save money even when they're able. And, as someone already said in the other column, the crush of poverty itself pretty much never let's most people climb out of it.Oh, and let's not forget, there are also lots and lots of people with big homes and fancy cars who lose it all because they live beyond their means until it all collapses.
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: no

So Diaper Boy who is to fix the problems of little or no savings ? "The crush of poverty itself pretty much never let's most people climb out of it."Diaper Boy are you saying most of Americans live in Poverty ?And Diaper Boy why is it you are concerned with Lots and lots of people with big homes and fancy cars ?
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: true

Too many people, rich or not so rich, adopt a life style which is at the top end of their earnings.Making provision for illness, old age or other contingencies is, regularly put off to sometime in the future, or ignored altogether.They become accustomed to their comfortable way of life and assume it is going to last forever.Sometimes it does, but all too often their circumstances change for the worse and they're left high and dry.It is vital to produce a fixed and variable expenditure projection budget which should allow for all essential overheads but include a surplus, part of which should be allocated to short term investment with the balance being placed in a longer term plan with higher interest rates.Such prudence offers a nest egg for the future and/or any emergencies along with a feeling of security.
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: no

Most poor people, and I've seen this across the States, struggle to be able to save money because they're poor. I'm not saying it wasn't their fault, but it's difficult to save money when your weekly paycheck isn't enough for a week of groceries.
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: no

@themadgadflyYes, if you stay at a 'Grocery Store'-type job, then there really is not going to be much of any money to save. However, the bigger question is; "Why would you stay at that type of job indefinitely rather than seek training in order to credential oneself for a better job, in time?"
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: no

Why would you stay at that job indefinitely rather than seek training in order to credential oneself for a better job, in time?I've seen this argument in real life I lot of the time when talking to people about this topic, and I've experienced it in my own life. So, the main reason poor people stay in the same job instead of looking for a better one is because frankly, most of the time they can't afford it. Yes, there are unemployment checks, but you honestly can't live on those. Take it from me; my mom and dad were both working parents. My dad got laid off, essentially fired, and he was looking for a better job for around a month. If my mom hadn't been working, we wouldn't have been able to pay rent.Hopefully I informed you in one way or another.
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: true

@themadgadflySo, the main reason poor people stay in the same job instead of looking for a better one is because frankly, most of the time they can't afford it.No, that is not true.The primary reason why poor people stay poor (for a very long period of time to indefinitely) is because they have a very poor grasp of the 'chess board' of their life & how to efficiently play the American 'game'. Community Colleges are highly affordable (also, they cost more now then they used to), and offer a good 15+ Associate Degrees, Certificates, ect. which would qualify one for a job with an income in the $40,000-$75,000 range. Furthermore, the Government provides guaranteed student loans to citizens up to $59,000 (for undergraduate; even more for graduate school), on a per year basis, no co-signer needed & no strings attached. That is plenty enough money to earn multiple Associates degrees which would give a person all kinds of quality employment options.
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: no

The primary reason why poor people stay poor (for a very long period of time to indefinitely) is because they have a very poor grasp of the 'chess board' of their life & how to efficiently play the American 'game'.I agree with you here. I actually laid out a few steps to not being poor that was from a study, if you'd like to go searching. But, most of the time, again, poor people need their current jobs to live. That may not be why they're poor, but it's most likely why they can't get a better job.Furthermore, the Government provides guaranteed student loans to citizens up to $59,000.Yes, and the keyword there is loans. Loans have to be paid back. So essentially, poor people are just getting poorer. But, through the three steps from the study mentioned above, it's avoidable.
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: true

@themadgadflyYes, and the keyword there is loans. Loans have to be paid back. So essentially, poor people are just getting poorer. But, through the three steps from the study mentioned above, it's avoidableIt is a sensible investment that would be unreasonable not to take advantage of (if in a poverty-like situation). There is enough money there for a person to rent an apartment (or even put a down-payment on a condo/apartment to mortgage) and attend the local community college with only having to work no more than 20 hours per week (if at all)--and that is just for one person, if paired off, it becomes even far, far easier (as you would have two loans/contributors).My local Community College is only $1600 a semester, then an AA/AS would cost $7000 or less total.
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: no

There is enough money there for a person to rent an apartment (or even put a down-payment on a condo/apartment to mortgage) and attend the local community college with only having to work no more than 20 hours per weekBut, you would have to work 20 hours a week to pay off the loan(s). Like I said, loans have to be paid back and if you don't pay back your student loans, the person/organization who gave you your loan will probably sue you.and that is just for one person, if paired off, it becomes even far, far easier (as you would have two loans/contributors)How does it become easier? By taking out more loans? That just makes it more difficult to pay back your loans.
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: true

@thegadflyBut, you would have to work 20 hours a week to pay off the loan(s). Like I said, loans have to be paid back and if you don't pay back your student loans, the person/organization who gave you your loan will probably sue you.You do not pay back the loans until after one stops College; at which point, the person would be qualified for a better job (if they chose their major wisely and put in the work). Also, Federal loans work differently than private bank loansHow does it become easier? By taking out more loans? That just makes it more difficult to pay back your loansYes, having more immediate money available to invest. Again, if a person(s) invest unwisely, that is their fault (which is the topic of the Thread). If you take the money and go on vacation for 5-8 years with nothing to show for it, well that was their decision and they will ultimately pay the price for it
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: true

Ah, okay, I see your point now. Related question; do you think the government should stop giving out student loans?
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: true

@themadgadflyRelated question; do you think the government should stop giving out student loans?No. Actually, I think we should dispense with most other 'social programs' and expand student loans more (to the rates for Graduate school, which are higher than Undergrad). I think it is the Governments responsibility to provide a reasonable chance of success to the citizens, regardless of a persons background, and then let people essentially rise and fall based upon their own merit. This would actually save a bunch of money on 'social programs' and all citizens could not possibly (sensibly) complain about the 'deal' they were given if this happened (though, of course, many likely still would).The student loans give a person the means to make or break, based on their own life decisions. Right now, it is a 'tight squeeze' of sorts (since the loans are not all that much), though if it were upped just a bit, it would provide plenty enough opportunity to citizens as well as the means to do away with many issues we face as a society.
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: true

I've seen this argument in real life I lot of the time when talking to people about this topic, and I've experienced it in my own life.It isn't an argument. What xMathFanx is trying to do is misdirect you so that you blame the victims of poverty rather than the factors which are actually responsible. It's precisely the same logical fallacy which justifies beating your wife (i.e. "the bigger question is why didn't you leave your husband"?)Not only does his question assume that the victim hasn't tried to better their own circumstances (which of course is counter-intuitive, since poverty is a bad thing), but it also assumes that, if everybody had "credentials", then nobody would need to work grocery jobs. The fact of the matter is that grocery jobs still need to be done, regardless of whether you do them or somebody else does them.
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: true

If a grocery store type job is a job that is required in society, a real job, then those that operate that job should be able to at the very least survive on the pay they earn from it.
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: no

@NomI don't disagree. Also, there is a portion of the population (those with disabilities) that may only be able to do such jobs. This could be addressed through a social program specifically for those with disabilities, while dispensing with welfare
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: true

You’re saying that poor people cannot save money. The topic claims that poor people don’t save money even when they can.Poverty creates an environment wherein those in its clutches must attend to short run matters. It stifles the ability to have long term prospects, since immediate matters are a constant and long term goals appear unrealistic. As a result, opportunities that may exist are not perceived. Money that may be saved is instead spent on a brief repreave from the stresses of immediate matters. Often this repreave takes the form of alcohol or drugs, which are abused in higher rates among the poor.
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: true

You're saying that poor people cannot save money. The topic claims that poor people don't save money even when they can.No, I'm saying poor people do not save money because of their financial situation. Namely, being poor. Not to say that being poor is an infinite fractal that cannot be escaped from.Poverty creates an environment wherein those in its clutches must attempt to short run matters.Whoa friend, poverty and poor are not the same. Poor is defined as "lacking sufficient money to live at a standard considered comfortable or normal in a society". Poverty, meanwhile, is defined as "the state of being extremely poor". People in poverty cannot save money without risking their lives in the form of not buying food. Let me tell you as a person who grew up poor, poverty and being poor are not the same and I suggest you do not get the two mixed up.It stifles the ability to have long term prospects, since immediate matters are a constant and long term goals appear unrealistic.Using that logic, aren't immediate matters long term goals, in a way? Buying food, buying shoes, and working for at least minimum wage are all long term goals in the eyes of those in poverty. Not, the poor, mind you.As a result, opportunities that may exist are not perceived. Money that may be saved is instead spent on a brief repreave from the stresses of immediate matters.So, are you implying that it's the poor people's own faults that they're poor? That it's their faults that they can't save money?Often this reprieve takes the form of alcohol or drugs, which are abused in higher rates among the poor.Again, you are using the terms 'poor' and 'in poverty' as if they are interchangeable. They aren't. Yes, I will agree with you, where you say that drug and alcohol abuse is significantly higher among people in poverty, as well as with the homeless.Last thing, please do not act like you know more about the poor and those in poverty than people who were in those positions at one point in their lives. I know everyone on this site loves to go on philosophical tangents, but it just doesn't work here.
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: true

please do not act like you more more about the poor and those in poverty than people who were in those positions at one point in their livesExperiencing something in no way whatsoever qualifies you as a professional on the matter. Surviving a shooting doesn't make you a marine, digging up rocks in your garden doesn't make you an archaeologist, and having been in poverty doesn't make you an economist.
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: no

having been in poverty doesn't make you an economistI didn't say I was an economist. I was only saying I know what it's like to be poor. Obviously, this doesn't give me greater authority over someone else, it just gave me a better insight.
Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: true

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Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: no

Even grocery store clerks can do that.Don't get me wrong, Ex, I understand what you're trying to say. Obviously, through simple math, it seems easy to retire rich. But factoring in living conditions, it's just not possible for a family to save money. For a single person, it seems possible so I guess the lesson is to not have kids.