azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

At first it may sound strange, but it isn't after you think about it. Man sinned and fell short of God. we deserve nothing more than death, yet ... "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life" John 3:16 We were damned because of our sin and we could do nothing to change it, but Jesus was sent as a scapegoat for humanity's sins. he took our sins to the cross and died for us. With that in mind, don't you think a man who died in a horrible way and brought you everlasting life through Him should deserve a little more respect than your parents who gave you life for 80 years or so? I love my parents unconditionally, but my love for Jesus Christ runs deeper because of what he sacrificed for an wicked sinner like me. to a non believer this will sound strange and absolutely crazy, but if you think deeply about this and try to fully grasp the concept of what he did, then you'll understand and completely agree with it.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

My goodness, your argument literally made me laugh.... :)
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

I don't agree with tricking everyone into thinking that you're the son of God, that's assuming he actually existed though.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

Despite the fact that Christians believe he is the son of God, Jesus is a role model in both religions (Christianity and Islam)He also acts as the perfect role model to the entire humanity.And I believe that soon he will return and create unity and peace among human beings.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

He's the sun of God? Who's the moon of God?Jesus is alright and stuff. He's not as much of a dick as his "father" was in OT.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

Ah, of course you'd downvote me and then edit your argument.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

It was only a letter change. The down vote was for the disgusting choice of words.By the way I don't consider this a contest as much as communicating thoughts.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

That's fine with me dude! Downvotes bring your point total down, not mine lol.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

I believe that he is not the Son of God, but rather the Spirit of God.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

Are you Muslim?
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

Yes I am. I believe i Jesus as much as I believe in Mohammad .
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

How can you believe in Jesus, but not believe Him to be the Son of God?
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

I believe in the real Injeel (Arabic for Bible) that is now in the possession of Jesus peace be upon him. And I believe that the old testament has been falsified by the jews during the time of Jesus. The reason was to regain control of their religious authority.And the Quran clearly states:It is not befitting to (the majesty of) Allah that He should beget a son. Glory be to Him! when He determines a matter, He only says to it, "Be", and it is. Verily Allah is my Lord and your Lord: therefore serve Him; this is the Straight Way. [The Holy Qur'an, Surah 19:35-36]The Messiah will reappear along with the 12th descendant of prophet Mohammed God bless their souls, and another prophet named khidr peace be upon him.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

So you believe that the Old Testament is trustworthy at some points but not at other points? And you believe this because you think that the Jews falsified the Old Testament during the time of Jesus? So why do you not think that the Quran has been falsified? Why do you think the Jews falsified the Old Testament in favor of Jesus, when the Jews hated Jesus?
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

Do you have anything to say to this?
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

The holy books Torah, Bible, and Quran all carry the same idea, but different in details. God has promised in the holy verse in the Quran:" We have, without doubt, sent down the message; and we will assuredly guard it (from corruption‏)"Ever since, many have tried to falsify the Quran, but it was deeply engrained in the minds of muslims, and no one has ever been successful in doing that.God has also stated in the holy Quran: "And We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation [united in religion], but [He intended] to test you in what He has given you; so race to [all that is] good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will [then] inform you concerning that over which you used to differ."All knowledge about the details is in the possession of God. Our role is to fond the common Ground and Unity Among each other.Common ground with Christianity:Isa is the son of a virgin named Maryam (“Mary” in English), who is a role model for the faithful women.[38] Isa is a prophet filled with the Holy Spirit (surat 2 Al-Baqarah, 87) and the messiah in both religions (but the Christians add that besides having a human nature, he would be God too, which the Quran clearly denies). Isa is the “word of truth” (surat 19 Maryam, 34). Isa, through God’s power and will, cures the blind and the leper, raises the dead to life and know what is hidden in the hearts (surat 3 'Ali `Imran, 49). And Isa will come back at the end of times (Hadith 46.31).
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

So do you believe that Isaiah 7 is true, completely? Isaiah 7 is the passage which states that the Messiah would be from a virgin.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

Yes we believe it is true. We don't believe that ALL the Bible has been corrupted, but some of it.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

Do you realize that the word Immanuel in that very chapter literally means "God is with us"? The prophecy of Isaiah 7 is that a virgin will give birth to God. The Messiah was God incarnate.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

Sorry, what I meant was that we believe that the idea that the Massaiah would be born from a virgin is true.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

So you believe the verse that says the Messiah would be of a virgin birth, but you don't believe that the Messiah would be Immanuel? You do realize that they are literally in the same sentence, correct? In fact, it doesn't even speak of the "Messiah"; it only says this: "Behold, the virgin shall conceive and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel." You think they got everything in this sentence correct except for the ending? Why do you not throw the entire sentence out? This seems like an intense version of cherry-picking. How did you come up with the notion of this son being the Messiah? How did you come up with that, unless you applied the notion of Immanuel to it? You can't get around it; the Old Testament predicts Jesus, as the Son of God. Don't listen to the Quran, which was by one man, who did no works, had false prophesies, and raped people. Listen to the Son of God, who is testified for in the Old Testament, and the New Testament by multiple authors.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

Had no works?!! False prophesies? And raped people?!!!!!How are you holding responsibility in describing the purest of the pure with these false accusations?Are you responsible for what you have claimed?
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

I try to settle on common grounds, but you turn this into a blind boxing game!Is this what Jesus wants?
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

Jesus calls out evil.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

Dude... Are you serious?? Prophet Mohammed..Rapist?? Islam.. Filled with Satan?? wow.. I can't believe people still believe this nonsense! Dude why do you refer to such sources? This is all nonsense. It is pure propaganda and if it is not made by the most uneducated people who have no clue what Islam is, it is clearly made by bigots and Islamophobes whose main goal is to divide people and just give a completely false idea about Islam, and it is usually because of this ridiculous fear that Islam will "rule the world"... And by the way, you said "You should really look into your own religion".. Why don't you hear what WE have to say about our own religion? Why don't you refer to Muslim sources rather than those you referred to? That's what people normally do unfortunately..Everything false and bad, they believe, but no room for anything good.. no room for explanation.. and that is pure ignorance...Ok, you had the time to read all this. Would you care to know about Islam now? Do you want to know about the Prophet of Islam? Watch this video. (and there's plenty more where that came from, but it depends how much you want to know) This is what we are. This is how we think. That is our role model. Peace.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

You do realize that many of the quotes I gave to you are literal quotes from Islamic works, such as the Quran, correct? Not only the Quran itself, but commentaries on Islam as well. Islamic scholars back these things that I have said up. One of my sources was from a Muslim.This is what we are. This is how we think. That is our role model. Peace.Islam is not a religion of peace. It is a religion of violence. The Law of Abrogation nullifies the former peacefulness of Islam, making is violent.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

I encourage you to open up your heart, reflect, and introspect.What you pasted does not prove anything.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

Open my heart to Islam? I will never do such a thing. And even if I did, it wouldn't matter, since Islam requires me to be perfect in my works, which no one is. Islam is a false religion that claims the sun to descend into a pit of mud.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

I am not trying to convert you. That is not my job.And no one is required to be perfect:Allah does not charge a soul except [with that within] its capacity. It will have [the consequence of] what [good] it has gained, and it will bear [the consequence of] what [evil] it has earned. “Our Lord, do not impose blame upon us if we have forgotten or erred. Our Lord, and lay not upon us a burden like that which You laid upon those before us. Our Lord, and burden us not with that which we have no ability to bear. And pardon us; and forgive us; and have mercy upon us. You are our protector, so give us victory over the disbelieving people.” Al Baqarah 286And please tell me more about the pit of mud I do not know what that is.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

A messiah is a savior or liberator of a group of people.Why is it so difficult to figure out that it would be possible for him to be a human being chosen by God to be the savior?
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

Because the Messiah all over the Old Testament was said to be God, for one. He was also said to be the one to take everyone's sins away, which can only be God, since everyone sins. The Messiah can only be God, logically and Biblically.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

If you believe that the old and new testaments are unconverted, I respect your opinion. But the Quran said:""He is Allah, One.Allah He begets not, nor was He begotten.And there is non comparable to Him.''Lets keep a barrier of respect in our arguments.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

Yet the Old Testament says multiple times that God is multiple, within Himself. Turn to the very first chapter of the Bible. It says "Then God said, 'Let us make man in our image...'" The Abrahamic God is and can only be Jesus, the Son, with the Father, and the Spirit. Islam is a false religion that, as Islam even admits, has come from the devil in parts.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

The bible never uses almah (עלמה) as someone who has not had sex.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

The Bible uses young woman, which most Hebrew scholars, both secular and non-secular, take to mean virgin.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

The Messiah will be born to a young woman, and scholars agree that most young women are virgins, is significantly different than - the Messiah will be born to a virgin.most Hebrew scholarsIs there a poll of Hebrew scholars you would like to reference?There is certainly no concensus that the word means virgin. The tranlators of the Septuigent themselves used different greek words in different verses - parthenos (greek for virgin) for 2 instances of almah, and neanis (greek for young woman) in 6 other instances. Can a prophecy be made through translation?See also:Does Almah mean Virginuses of Almah
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

Have you been taught by Parfit or Feldman? You are not restating what I have said. I never said that the word literally mean virgin. I never said that most scholars agree that virgins are young women. I said that the contextual implication of the word across Hebrew is that of the woman being a virgin. For example, when one says "Betrothed," it does not simply mean one who is to be married. It has many other connotations to it, in the language of the time. The word you are referring to has that very same connotation and context to it, which is implicit in it, which most Hebrew scholars agree is there.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

I never said that the word literally mean virgin.Except for the part where you said:"Isaiah 7 is the passage which states that the Messiah would be from a virgin."Most scholars (source not provided) agreeing that the connotation of the word implies virgin is pretty qualified for a prophecy - wouldn't you agree?
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

Jesus made a lot of enemies many of which are high up the ranks of authority. He exposed them for who they truly are. As a result he was executed.Why would he do that if he wasn't telling the truth. I am sure you wouldn't do it because you do not have any proof or divine authority. Am I right?
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

Uhh... have you ever thought that maybe he was just a zealot? The Romans were most likely afraid of a revolt, led by Jesus.Have you ever heard of Bar Kokhba? He was a Jew who actually did lead a revolt against the Roman empire and what's surprising about him is that many considered him to be the messiah. His rebellion began in 132 C.E., about a hundred years after Christ.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

Which no doubt failed. Only after when the revolt fails that is when people realized that Simon Bar Kokba was a liar.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

I think you're missing the point. People considered him to be the messiah a hundred years after Christ... and the argument you just made regarding his failure as proof that he was a liar, is one of the reasons why Jews don't accept Jesus as the messiah.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

First of all there are no Scripture validation that this guy was the Messiah. There is however, Scripture mention of a group of people like him in Matthew 24:24 " For false christs and false prophets will arise and perform great signs and wonders, so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect." So this guy was an antichrist. He gained followers, but the true followers of Christ knew better.Jesus however, has Scripture validation of his identity.I am sorry, but this will be my last post about this because I realize I am way off course with the original topic.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

No he's the offspring of crap, look at the story of job.... Exemplifies no role model we should follow.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

Homeless weirdo that hears voices...off course why not :D
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

It is wrong to tell lies so no.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

What do you mean telling lies? You need to explain your argument.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

He lied about being divine.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

Lie is a bit of a harsh word. For it to be a lie, he would have to know that he was not divine and still claim otherwise.If he truly believed he was divine, but was not, he was not a liar- just wrong.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

I don't think we need role models who tell people to kill their children. Srom, if you have children, are going to take your role model's advice and kill them?I also don't think we need role models who not only advocate slavery, but command slaves to obey their masters even if they are cruel.You know what? We probably don't need role models who tell you to hate your family and love them.The more I think about it, the more it seems Jesus was a big piece of shit who should have stayed dead, not a role model.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

Srom, if you have children, are going to take your role model's advice and kill them?Why would He ask me to kill my child in the first place?
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

Srom, if you have children, are going to take your role model's advice and kill them?Why would He ask me to kill my child in the first place?Matthew 15:1-9
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

What does this have to do with whether or not Jesus (assuming that he exists) is a good role model?
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

What does this have to do with whether or not Jesus (assuming that he exists) is a good role model?"I thought it was obvious, but I guess your role model bar might be a lot lower than mine.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

Not that it's "lower" per se, just that don't I consider having compatible views with myself as part of being a role model.Your call.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

Not that it's "lower" per se, just that don't I consider having compatible views with myself as part of being a role model.Your call.If you stand in opposition of filicide, how can you consider an advocate of such a thing a role model?Furthermore, if incompatible views don't disqualify a person from being your role model, what does?
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

I'm not necessarily of an opponent of filicide, I'm a utilitarian.What disqualifies someone as a role model is someone who carries about intentions that if practiced by others will lead to a lowering or sub-optimal level of happiness in society.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

I'm not necessarily of an opponent of filicide, I'm a utilitarian.What disqualifies someone as a role model is someone who carries about intentions that if practiced by others will lead to a lowering or sub-optimal level of happiness in society.That looks like something a schizophrenic Sam Harris would say.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

That looks like something a schizophrenic Sam Harris would say.>Looks like something>would say>sayWork on your insults m8
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

That looks like something a schizophrenic Sam Harris would say.>Looks like something>would say>sayWork on your insults m8I wasn't actually trying to insult you, but you're right of course; what you wrote looks like something a schizophrenic Sam Harris would write, not something a schizophrenic Sam Harris would say.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

So, you are saying your children do not Honor you? This is the scripture you posted: Matthew 15:1-9English Standard Version (ESV)Traditions and Commandments15 Then Pharisees and scribes came to Jesus from Jerusalem and said, 2 “Why do your disciples break the tradition of the elders? For they do not wash their hands when they eat.” 3 He answered them, “And why do you break the commandment of God for the sake of your tradition? 4 For God commanded, ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and, ‘Whoever reviles father or mother must surely die.’ 5 But you say, ‘If anyone tells his father or his mother, “What you would have gained from me is given to God,”[a] 6 he need not honor his father.’ So for the sake of your tradition you have made void the word[b] of God. 7 You hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy of you, when he said:8 “‘This people honors me with their lips, but their heart is far from me;9 in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’”
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

So, you are saying your children do not Honor you? This is the scripture you posted:Matthew 15:1-9I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you just don't understand the scripture instead of assuming your objection to my argument indicates you side with Jesus when it comes to filicide.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

If you study the Bible a bit more Jesus was not calling for the stoning of children.Jesus was exposing the priests' hyprocrisy. ot requesting an execution. Jesus was quoting the original law of the Israelites. This law also does not literally mean the execution of children it teaches that if a child insults their parents a strict punishment must be given to them. The priests deviled this law by changing it to add wiggle room. So instead of children learning from their evil acts the parents were to just let them go. Jesus and God are never for pro death. This was not God's original plan.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

Jesus was quoting the original law of the Israelites. This law also does not literally mean the execution of children it teaches that if a child insults their parents a strict punishment must be given to them.Oh so Exodus 21:17- Anyone who dishonors father or mother must be put to deathreally means anyone who dishonours their parents must be given ice cream and be taken to Disneyland. Thank goodness for apologists like yourself to set us all straight on how to read the Bible.I hope you choke on my LOL's.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

Well clearly, you do not understand what I have written or typed very well.Your argument is invalid.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

Well clearly, you do not understand what I have written or typed very well.Your argument is invalid.Help me understand. You're claiming God (and later God in the form of Jesus) didn't say that children who dishonour their parents must be put to death?