Debate: Get this over with...why do you believe/disbelieve in God?
Side: I believe because.....

"No, you cannot observe a spirit. You can experience one, but you cannot physically see one."I never said you had to physically see one. "I can put a probability on it."Based on what? That's my point, you base finding truth on worldly science. I base finding truth on the holy ghost. We're going nowhere with this which was the original point I was making. You're proving my point this is incompatible. Almost every atheist I've met on this site tries to make these debates about proving god exists.(because you know I can't) It doesn't have to be about that. "OK, little hypothetical then. Say that science came out and, whilst not completely disproving God, eliminated all need for a creator being, and had a complete model of the universe. Would you give up your faith?"I have the ability to consider different ideas and think of things from others perspectives. The best way I can answer this is that I believe that we learn all things through the holy ghost. That includes science. If there was a God wouldn't it make sense for him to provide a way for us to learn and develop things? That's part of why we're here. Just because I'm Christian doesn't mean I expect a spiritual answer for everything. We have to work with what we have. So it's difficult for me to answer your question in that context. I would say no. Because my source of truth is greater than the mere theories of men(that don't usually last forever.) I heard a story once I'm pretty sure it's true but either way it makes a good point. Einstein had an assistant who would help him give tests to students. He recognized the test from the previous year and asked Einstein "how could you give the same test you gave last year to the same students"? Einstein replied "because since last year the answers have changed". "Straw man."So then what point were you making when you said that religion can't offer those things? "I'm not implying anything, I'm asking you a question."Ok here's what you said:"OK. Take soccer as an example. Soccer is 11 players all working towards scoring goals to win games. Now, in professional soccer, the players all have to be immensely talented, willing to improve, and able to work as a team. But what if you have a player who can't do these things? We'll call him X. Then X plays poorly, but, the team plays poorly too. Thus, you don't let people like X on the team.Now imagine that you have 11 scientists, and the goal is discovery. Now, call X "religion". Religion can't offer brilliant testing methods and evidence, can't improve its answers, and causes friction among the scientific community.Why would you let religion on the team then?"By using a hypothetical example such as this you weren't trying to make a point or imply anything? That's weird.So team represents a group of scientists and x represents religion. That doesn't make sense. How can religion (a belief) be on the same team as people? "And I would disagree with that. I get on perfectly fine with religious people, as have most irreligious folk throughout history." I take that back now that I think of it most atheist I've met have been very kind and understanding. But the one's on the internet are just ruthless. "I'm saying that religion should have no involvement in science, in the same way we don't let Pastafarian teachings influence quantum physicists. The religious can do what they want."I agree. I think there's a difference between the separation of god and science and the separation of religion and science. It's fine to not let one interfere with another but when you say anyone who believes in god is disregarding science you're being incredibly biased and closed minded. And intolerant. And to be fare you're saying X shouldn't interfere with Y (I agree) but then you're letting Y interfere with X all the time. "If the Christian world can't organize itself efficiently, why should I be the one making excuses for them?"Lol of course the Christian world cannot organize itself efficiently. Do you realize how many conflicting beliefs are within that world? And I never said you should be making excuses for them just try to be tolerant of other peoples beliefs. That is all.