azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

have any one of u tried to explore the behind it.Yes. There is an overwhelming amount of evidence supporting evolution. The fossil record, DNA, and vestigial appendages demonstrate that evolution is real. Plus, experiments on lizards have had a single lizard species change so much that 2 groups of lizards couldn't mate any more.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

Except for anyone who values logic and reason...and those who are not going to Hell.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

I am talking about for people who actually use logic and reason.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

Okay but God created those fossils. I bet you did not know humans were around during the dinosaur times. Oh wow it is so cool how they can not mate. GOD did that he chooses what animals mate and when to stop them. If you do not believe in God How were you made? Where you made by Santa? God created everyone in his image.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

I do not believe that God can't work through evolution.Humans were not around with dinosaurs.God does not choose what animals can't mate, genetics does.If God isn't our creator, nature is.God using evolution to create is in His image seems like a stretch.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

They think they created themselves via the life force which emerged out of a mud puddle. They're fools...they won't listen to reason, they want to believe there is no God and no Hell as long as they possibly can, and they are hoping it's forever with no good reason to hope in such meaninglessness of life.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

I agree you have to believe in God. one day he is coming back and what a day it will be. I am excited. I pray a lot for him to end the world because this world is pulling apart from God. We need to go back to him. One day everyone will stand before God in judgement.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

Keep on saying it, over and over and over and tell them about the Savior and the good news of His resurrection.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

They believe in evolution because they are sinners and do not want to concede to God's right to rule over them and against their sin. For some reason, they think it's better to die proud than to die believing God is merciful and we need His mercy.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

It is absolutely logical to recognize, and wholly reasonable to assume that everything, including evolution must have a starting point. To explain the birth of evolution scientists have presented the totally incredible concept of the big bang ''theory''. The foundation of this fanciful notion is based on the underlying assumption that ''something can be created from nothing'', i.e., the minute speck from which the ever expanding universe and the unfolding process of evolution started. Scientists have never been able to offer a rational nor satisfactory explanation regarding the origin of the ''minute speck''. How did this particle just happen to appear. The explanation for it's sudden and inexplicable presence seems more akin to the hocus pocus of the conjurer rather than logical scientific fact. How was the infinite enormity of space sitting ready to be filled with a mind boggling array of complex chemicals and gases? Nothing from nothing = Nothing. Nothing by nothing=nothing. Nothing + nothing= nothing. All scientific research does appear to indisputably confirm the process of evolution but until a more logical explanation for it's beginning can be established the existence of a ''creator'' cannot be ruled out, thus vindicating the assertion that evolution and a creator are intrinsically linked.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

And God said, "LET THERE BE LIGHT!!!!". And so it was done.not to mention some of the fallacies of evolution:Fallacy #1: Affirming the consequentFallacy #2: Confirmation biasFallacy #3: Evidence denial
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

Can you elaborate on any of those fallacies?I have never heard any arguments for affirming the consequent. And, any evidence that has been denied has been thoroughly proven to be false. What evidence is being denied?
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

The "fallacy" is pretending that you are justified to live as a sinner.You are living a fallacy, fooling yourself.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

Aww, the little troll came out to play.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

I have never heard any arguments for affirming the consequent.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

I have never heard any arguments for affirming the consequent.I know right. Me either. Are you finally a believer in evolution?
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

Evolution has nothing to do with any other theory. We dont have to assume the big bang or any other theory that concerns the period of time before evolution. We have proven for a fact that shit evolves. End of story. The big bang could be totally false and that doesnt change that very simple fact. Also dont act like you understand the most sophisticated physics of modern science because you dont. You're just summarizing it in laymans terms and using your own incredulity as evidence that it isnt true. And we also dont have to know what the beginning of the universe was to rule out a creator. Theres no evidence for a creator at all. Period. Thats all we need to know to not even entertain that question.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

see friends evolution have always been successful in telling from where we came,who we are ,and where we go in terms of animals but it had never been able to find out the uniqueness in humans.....
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

Evolution points to many ways in which humans are unique. It points to many ways in which every species is unique.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

Yes, you are a very unique monkey and you will make an excellent meal for a fitter monkey....that is if sodomites don't turn you into a hotdog first.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

evolution has been successful in telling you that you emerged out of a mud puddle? How is that successful? It tells you that you are nothing but chemical reactions, and you are going nowhere, and that's successful? It's good that you believe life is meaningless, so you feel you are not punished in death? Is that how it works? Is that how it's successful? It makes you believe things that make you feel good or ok with dying?
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

If a person say that he/she have no faith in god it can be that he/she failed to understand GOD ....Religion is not rival of science nor science is ,as science s advice us to be rational ,questioning in the same way all religious scriptures encourage us to use our power of reason....our faith should not merely be based on influence of others ,emotion or pressure..
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

If a person arrives at the conclusion that there is no god through the application of science and reason then it is considerably more likely that the case for god is not particularly compelling, rather than that the person did not understand god.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

Do you understand that you are dying and that if you don't get saved you will be dead? Do you hope to go unpunished in death? Are you crazy?
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

Do you understand that you are dying and that if you don't get saved you will be dead?I understand that I am dying and that I will be dead when that process is done. Nothing can "save" a person from that fact, although I am sure the delusion is quite comforting to you.Do you hope to go unpunished in death?No. I hope for nothing in death because I will be dead. Are you crazy?"Well, that's not the clicinal description, but yes, actually." - Daniel Pierce
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

So I take it that you don't care if you end up in Hell. That's not my problem, sorry.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

Well, that does follow since I do not believe in Hell. If it is not your problem, then why bring it up at all?
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

Because I know where you are going and it's not easy to watch people marching to the fire. But since you are so determined that it is not possible for you to be stuck in eternal death now and forever, since you believe you are living and death is nothing, it really is tiring and repetitive talking to you, a waste of time. I'm doing my best to let you go your own way since you love it so much.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

You hope to be dead. You are already dead, a dead man walking and talking. The only difference in Hell is that you will have no indication of God's goodness.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

To the contrary. I quite hope to live. Incidentally, I am presently a live person sitting and typing; not that you care much about reality. Also, what indication of "God's goodness" is there in this world? If such a thing existed I would believe in your God, but you have had ample opportunity to prove it and have been unable to. Take a final swing at me if you like.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

go on and see if you get nihilated in death. I really don't want to debate you.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

What you meant to say is "I really don't want to debate".
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

Well, yes, given that nihil literally means nothing to be nothing-ed would be the equivalent death. If you do not want to debate me then stop replying.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

Aren't you nothing who came from nothing and will be nothing so you are annihilated and meaningless? I find your philosophy empty, meaningless, void of worth, and I really don't want to read your rants. I suggest that you don't read mine.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

Yeah, that sounds about right. Except that I do not rant. That is more your thing. There you are, shouting into the abyss like that will save you.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

I"m sorry...I really do feel sorry for you, but you're not listening so I guess you wont' be saved from Hell. I hope you prove me wrong.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

I do not feel in the slightest bit sorry for either of us. It would not do any good. I already have proven you wrong, but you have an aversion to reason.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

Sorry, if you want to be annihilated, that's not my problem. I'm really not interested I arguing with you. I feel sorry for you.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

I have no desire to be annihilated; I merely accept it as inevitable instead of escaping into delusional fictions about an afterlife and salvation. To each their own, but your sympathies are quite wasted on me so do not feel the need to sustain them on my account (not that you really were to begin with). You keep claiming you are not interested in arguing with me, yet here you are back again.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

Liar. You hope to be annihilated so that you will be relieved from responsibility for the things you have done, the things you want to do but can't, the things you cannot change though you would like to. You are guilty of doing the things you have done and justice demands you own up to it. You are trying to fool yourself into believing you get off the hook in death, you are pretending to know what you are talking about when your dying has yet to be finalized and you cannot know until then because you are rejecting knowledge until it's forced upon you by God Himself evidenced in the fire of Hell....and if you take your anti-Christ beliefs that far, I believe that even as you are burning in the fire you will STILL try to deny the reality of it's never ending torment. You are being a fool. The only thing you are getting annihilated is everything you think of as good or comforting, because you want God to be totally removed from your forever and He is giving you what you want because He loves you. If you want nothing good from God, that's what you will have in the fire of Hell, and it's much better for you if you believe it now before it's forced upon you and you can't deny it any more.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

I am not motivated to avoid responsibility, guilt, or justice because I do not believe in or value those things. My attitude towards your God is incidental to my perspective, as I have already explained repeatedly. You clearly do not understand my philosophy, since you keep forgetting both of those things. I never asked you to risk drowning yourself trying to save me; that is something you do of your own accord to make yourself feel like a good person. Give yourself another cookie with that pat on the back.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

I I I I I I I I IIYou are full of yourself, aren't you?
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

UUUUUUUUUUUUNothing wrong with that. I am an egoist, after all. Not that you do too shabby by that standard yourself, what with all your self-righteous proselytizing.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

You are avoiding owning up to your guilt. You are feigning innocence. You are only fooling yourself.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

You are fooling yourself by believing in things you cannot prove exist. You are avoiding owning up to your delusional proclivities. You are feigning enlightenment, but you are actually drowning in your own delusions.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

Everything you can see exists and I can prove it. It clearly shows God made it. You cannot see God because your sin has alienated you, separated you from Him so you are in the dark. God is light, and in Him is no darkness.  Also, the fire of Hell clearly is justice against evil, and you are evil; turned away from and against God but He still loves you, still is kind to you, still pleads with you to return to Him, repent of your sins, and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ in His resurrection and be saved from Hell.God made you to know Him, and there is something from God in you which tells you these things are true. You fight against them because you know you are guilty and deserve God's judgement. You are like a scared little child afraid that when the truth comes out and your wickedness is laid out in the open, God will not love you. He loves you and wants you to trust Him. Of course this cannot be proved if you will not believe it, but for the life of me I do not understand why people want to believe God does not love them. If God does not love people, life is not worth going through. God loves you so much He gave His Son to die in your place so you can be forgiven as He is risen from the dead with power to forgive you and make you a child of God. He will be your life and you will have eternal life if you will only receive Him as the gift of God for you. It's only you who is keeping yourself in dying. God is trying to give you eternal life but you have to receive it from God, you have to believe He can give it, you have to admit you need it or you will be a casualty, lost forever to your stinking attitude against the goodness of God. Quit being stinky, believe on Jesus, and get saved.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

Quit being stinky. ... ... ... XD I would buy that line of cleaning products just for the laugh: God: Gets the tough stains out! Get whiter whites without the worry. Yours for just 8.69, plus tithing.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

Go on and try to keep swimming. I would be a fool to try to dive in with you to get you to shore.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

Don't worry, your philosophy is so simplistically dumb that I only need to read a few words of your posts to know how to respond to you. Your stuff is tiresome, because trying to get you to see that you need to be saved is like swimming into the water with a drowning man whose strength is not gone so the idiot will pull me down with him while I try to get him to a place of safety. Go on and swim in your empty sea for a while. Enjoy it while you can if you think you don't need to be saved from Hell.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

You hope to be nothing, because you don't like reality. You are insane. I'm arguing with a guy who believes in nothing for no good reason. I guess that makes me foolish like you.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

I hope for nothing. I am ambivalent towards reality. My sanity is not relevant to my argument. I do not believe in nothing. I disbelieve everything to varying degrees. My reason is "good" only insofar as one arbitrarily adopts the standard of logic, but at least I bother with a rationale.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

"I do not believe in nothing. I disbelieve everything to varying degrees."Ummm, duhhhh, ok, maybe you really do not exist, but you can't really believe it.Are you there? Please don't answer, I'm sure your answer will only be confusion and you can't believe it completely but you can disbelieve it in varying degrees.How did you become so unknowing and knowing and all that or whatever you believe or don't believe you think you know but cant' be sure of?.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

Ummm, duhhhh, my name is Jace and I don't believe in nothing but I do disbelieve everything in varying degrees.....though I can't really say I know what degrees are because I really do not believe in them entirely. If this does not make sense to you, it's because I understand my nihilism and you do not because you believe you know what I think, but you do not realize that what I said is not what I really meant because you heard it wrong and I can't believe your interpretation of my words. If you are not ready to blow your brains out by now, I sure am but I'm not really believing I can do it so I'm not doing it...that is if I really do exist to make that decision..........I hope you understand, and I hope you now are clear about what nihilism really is though you really can't believe it is real.Jace. Peace....well, I'm really can't believe in peace, so I'll just say "out". Out is one thing I can almost believe in because I am out of here. If this sounds stupid, it's good because it can't be sin because there is nothing wrong with anything I do or say...at least I partially believe that, though I really can't believe anything because I'm not really sure I'm even real to begin with ....and I'm not convinced you are real either. Maybe we can all go out in one big suicide pact together and find out.Have a wonderful day, whatever that is. Give nihilism a try, it works for me...maybe.....nobody can really know, but it feels good to deny knowing anything.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

You do not understand nihilism. For starters, you think it is interchangeable with existentialism which it obviously contradicts. Your grasp of nihilism is limited to fatalistic, pop-culture stereotypes rather than a philosophical, reasoned understanding.I cannot say with absolute certainty what degrees are and cannot codify them with any specificity. I do not need to, and there is no point in doing so. The premise of epistemological nihilism is that nothing can be known with absolute certainty, because everything we think we know we have come to know through our perception which is unreliable. Yet we must operate upon our perception for the very simple reason that we are incapable of conceiving of a means of doing otherwise; even inaction or fatalism is a response to perception. Consequentially, operating upon probable certainty induced by perception is the default. Absolute certainty is not necessary to action or thought.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

All you are saying is that you believe their is no possible way for you to know what you are talking about other than to say that you know it's all nonsense and you can't admit it's nonsense because that would make you a laughing stock of the town.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

No, that is not at all what I said. Try again, if you can.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

I arrive at my views through logic and reason. You might give them a try if you ever feel so inclined.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

How do you know you arrive at your views when you don't believe nothing and you disbelieve everything in varying degrees? Your "views" are nonsense and double talk, not logic and reason.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

I do not know it with absolute certainty, but suspect it to be the case with probable certainty based upon my necessarily perception-dependent observations.
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: EVOLUTION

Ummm, duhhhh, my name is Jace and I don't believe in nothing but I do disbelieve everything in varying degrees.....though I can't really say I know what degrees are because I really do not believe in them entirely. If this does not make sense to you, it's because I understand my nihilism and you do not because you believe you know what I think, but you do not realize that what I said is not what I really meant because you heard it wrong and I can't believe your interpretation of my words. If you are not ready to blow your brains out by now, I sure am but I'm not really believing I can do it so I'm not doing it...that is if I really do exist to make that decision..........I hope you understand, and I hope you now are clear about what nihilism really is though you really can't believe it is real.Jace. Peace....well, I'm really can't believe in peace, so I'll just say "out". Out is one thing I can almost believe in because I am out of here. If this sounds stupid, it's good because it can't be sin because there is nothing wrong with anything I do or say...at least I partially believe that, though I really can't believe anything because I'm not really sure I'm even real to begin with ....and I'm not convinced you are real either. Maybe we can all go out in one big suicide pact together and find out.Have a wonderful day, whatever that is. Give nihilism a try, it works for me...maybe.....nobody can really know, but it feels good to deny knowing anything.Where in this did I misrepresent your views?
Debate: God created us or evolution
Side: Creation

When did I say these specific statements misrepresented my views? Incidentally, your continued conflation of nihilism with fatalism vis a vis suicidality is a striking misrepresentation.