azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

he's making all these promises and yet he has not fulfilled any of them!He just passed Healthcare reform, which is actually historically amazing, job loss has slowed, and our economy is improving.I think he's done just about the best that is realistically possible in this short amount of time in any representative republic.Lots of people who voted for him our now just realizing that maybe his isn't so good after allActually his approval rating is still very high for any president during a recession. If an election was held today he would beat any generic Republican candidate. It's Congress I think you are thinking of when you imply people are upset.The major #1 reason he became president was because most people voted for him because he was going to be the first black president (not being racist)Statistically the total number of African voters who showed up for this election, who have not in previous elections, adds up to around 1% of the entire voting population. Considering he won by a greater margin than any candidate in recent history pretty much proves race did not play a role.The reason he actually won by more than Bill Clinton, the last Democratic President, is because there was a greater overall turnout.A greater turnout always leads to a democratic victory, because the majority of people who usually would not vote are liberal while conservatives almost always vote.I'm not sure where you are getting your information in recent debates, but you seem to have a very shallow world view.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

What is it with you always quoting at the beginning of your statements what i say. Did you know that the people could not vote for the healthcare plan. Obama just pushed it into action with of coarse help from other democrats. This healthcare plan can get america broke. Any ways STATISTICALLY it doesn't matter if the 100% of whites voted for him it is very true that they would vote to see a black president in office.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

I quote so you can see the part of your argument I am addressing.And again, you have no proof of your assumption, and the vote turnout shows you to be wrong. Not sure why you insist on believing something so easily shown to be wrong.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

i believe in what i believe nothing else to it. I am just debating/arguing my beliefs if you don't like it then go bug someone else.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

Don't argue beliefs. Argue arguments. When you believe something, you have closed your mind to other points of view. I seem to see you doing that a lot around here. iamdavidh has responded to each of your statements accurately and efficiently, while also citing sources and statistics. You on the other hand have done none of those things. Please respond in a fashion suitable to debate, rather than belching your opinions from an ivory tower.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

No, his policies are crap.He ignores that majority of America doesn't want Health Care but he still pushes it through. Ignorant much?Health Care is another way of Theft for the government.They take your money and give it to someone else and themselves.Being forced to have insurance or your given a fine on your income? Wow, totalitarianism much?Six states are performing a law suite against this. It will go through congress and get passed. IT is unconstitutional to run a bill through that has already been Vetoed!!That just provides evidence that none of you people give a shit about the foundations of this country.Health Care is a Gateway for more government control.If you don't believe that your a fool.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

When you ask people about the individual components of the bill, they respond positively. When you ask people about the bill as a whole, they respond negatively. This tells us that people do not actually understand the bill, and that their views are the result of manipulation by the insurance industry.http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/2010/01/health-care-polls-opinion-gap-or.html The rest of your points are too stupid to be worth responding to.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

The rest of your points are too stupid to be worth responding to.Too Stupid eh? No you just don't want to start an argument with that is because you know you can be proven wrong.In my post I AM mentioning PARTS of the bill, seems you are the stupid one.Also, this debate is about Obama becoming president of '12, So I will add this:Russia invaded Georgia, Obama was asked what his solution would be for that. He said: "We will have the UN vote on wither to take action or not..."OK for ONE he is an idiot and I don't want an idiot being the leader of this country.Why I say he is an idiot? Because he doesn't even know the system he supports, RUSSIA is on the UN board and it takes ONE Veto vote on the board to have something NOT done.Explanation for this? Or is that just me being 'Stupid'?
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

I was responding to the part where you said the "majority of America doesn't want Health Care". That's not true.As for Georgia, I would need a lot more information before jumping to any conclusions. It seems like there should be a way for the UN to take action even if one country doesn't want to. Also, since you didn't cite a source I'm going to presume the quote is out of context and misleading. It seems ridiculous for you to be picking some tiny, obscure statement made a long time ago and using it to make Obama seem dumb. If that's the best you've got it just shows how rarely he says dumb things.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

I wonder about those six states. Could you please send me link and tell me what the six states are?
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

I'm not really sure what the exact number is, but I know it's more than six now. But it's possible that the number has increased. (I'm no expert)
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

Let's not even get into his policies. I'm just so sick of this spending! To those of you already up there in the years, you probably don't care as much, but I'm 18 and just entering the crazy world on my own. At this rate, it'll be my generation that has to fix this mess known as national debt. And it just keeps climbing!
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

Since the year Obama has been President the debt has increased by a percent similar too, and less than the debt increase during any given year of the Bush administration. In short, the Bush administration on average increased the debt more/ year.Where was your whining then? You were on this site when Bush was pres.It's an odd trend. I find that there is some deep dislike for Obama, yet when each reason for this dislike is analyzed in comparison to other Presidents it is easily seen that the reason mentioned, in your case spending, is not the reason at all.I'm curious, why is it really that you dislike him? We've established it could not possibly be spending since I know you supported Bush on several occassions without a word about spending here on this site.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

It's not just the fact that he's spending; it's his rate of spending. "During the last administration, it took over 2 years for the National Debt to increase a trillion dollars. But by the time former president George W. Bush left office, he had run up the deficit by a record amount: $4.9-trillion over eight years."Obama has been in office a little over a year and already has a higher spending rate than Bush.True, Bush spent a lot, but I'd say a lot of his spending was related to the safety of the country, which is the most important thing to do when being president. If the country is not safe, it could be attacked and our citizens could die- simple as that.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

He has done absolutely nothing except get the Nobel peace prize for something he didn't accomplish. He got the health care bill passed, but now its being challenged. He has done nothing for this country except talk and tell tales and lies to the America people. I will be 18 for the next presidential election and as hell am I not voting for him.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

... and that was 8 years. Obama according to these two lists, has done more in less than two. Weird argument on your part.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: No, I don't like his policies.

Well, most of your list is not definitive accomplished such as 88. Has put the ball in play for comprehensive immigration reform89. Has announced his intention to push for energy reformwhich means that there is actually no real reform.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

I can say the same thing about point 5 in your list.Anyway, it doesn't negate the general point that Obama is a busier president.And that the original argument I was replying to, that he hasn't done anything, is demonstratably untrue and the result of a complete lack of knowledge and a weird pre-existing dislike impervious to actual policy issues.
Debate: Obama as president in '12?
Side: Yes, he's doing a good job.

I can agree with that Obama has done something and he is busier than Bush.
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: yes

No... He hasn't earned it yet.But he won the prize because the people who think he deseved it believe in his potential. He has the drive and the ability to bring peace to a lot of the countries now in turmoil.Fox news said that he won the Nobel on the basis that he's "not Bush." Well he isn't. His emobodyment of everything anti-Bush sent an imidiate calming over the earth. The simple act of him being our president was proof of hope to those inside and outside of the US.
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: No

He was President for all of a month when he was nominated for the prize. People should be selected for awards for what they do and not what they intend to do or who they are. This just proves that the Nobel peace prize is a joke.
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: No

The Nobel Prize (Swedish: Nobelpriset) is an annual, international award originating in Sweden. The award was established in 1895 by the Swedish chemist and inventor of dynamite Alfred Bernhard Nobel.
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: yes

Who he is and his intentions have already inspired peace and hope.Lableing the Nobel Peace Prize as a joke is a very childish reaction.
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: No

And your evidence for this rather lofty claim is what exactly? How are these inspired people demonstrating that they are more oriented toward peace than a year ago? It would be nice for someone to offer at least one, and maybe only one, demonstrable difference in world peace since President Obama was elected. So, for example, have the Taliban been so inspired by the election that they are at least thinking about toning down their violence? Have the Iranians been inspired to hold something like a fair election? How is Darfur these days...has there been an inspirational movement there?Having a warm fuzzy feeling because someone has been elected president, shouldn't be the standard-bearer of what constitutes the bringing about of peace, or even constitute the "effort" of bringing about peace.
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: No

It actually is a joke in general.Al Gore got it instead of a holocaust survivor who saved children during the holocaust.It's politically motivated and has been for a while.
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: yes

I by no means mean to belittle a heroic holocaust survivor, and I don't know the details of what he may have gone through, but given the same situation any decent person would save children. That's a given. It's not a global act or lifelong dedication to peace.Gore works to save all of humanity, and all of the planet.
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: No

I know that your heart is in the right place but there is absolutely nothing that Gore (or anyone else for that matter) can do to reverse Global Warming in a reasonable amount of time. It is just not economically feasible. Not for us, not for the Indians, and not for the Chinese.
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: No

Global warming won't destroy the earth. It will destroy us.The earth has a lifespan just like we do. Someday the sun will die, or the moon will snap from orbit, or a black hole will pass by... That's what will destroy the earth.The cure for Climate Change is the death of the human race. After that the ecosystem will return to a livable state over a period of time.So you can either keep up with that attitude, or trust in the power of the Human will to find a solution.Either way you die. So just keep driving that hummer, but now youre paying the Chinese for it.
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: No

Well..., since you put it that way...., I think I'll keep my attitude ;)
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: yes

http://www.earth-policy.org/index.php?/books/pb2/pb2_table_of_contents
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: No

You know, I know you mean well..., but I just don't care. Maybe I'm on my period today ;)
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: No

Yup, you're white.I hope you go ahead and die soon, thanks. :)
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: No

Yeah, I'm almost there. But not before I increase my carbon foot print. I want to leave my mark on the world. ;)
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: No

Gore made a movie that wasn't entertaining and wasn't that informative... how is that a lifelong dedication to peace?He isn't green since his house consumes more energy than Nebraska... and he himself consumes more energy than Nebraska WITHOUT the house.This woman was beaten to an inch of her life by SS soldiers for what she did. She risked HER FUCKIN' LIFE to save children from Hitler's genocide.They were both nominated and HE won instead of her. It's bullshit, no matter how you try to spin it.
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: No

And of course a random down vote.I guess someone's ideology is being hurt by rationalization.fuckin' cunts.
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: yes

Ugh.I downvoted you without responding because your post was nothing more than a more detailed repost of your previous statment. It was as if you hadnt read my post at all.
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: No

You said that Gore worked to save all of humanity.I explained how he didn't.try again.
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: yes

What you said about Gore was untrue. If you think Gore consumes more energy than Nebraska, back it up. Then well talk.
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: Not yet

First, calling people names will do nothing to further your arguments."He isn't green since his house consumes more energy than Nebraska... and he himself consumes more energy than Nebraska WITHOUT the house."Wrong. Al Gore's house is powered by either local, renewable means at his own house or through green, renewable energy that he purchases at a premium with his own money. When you are getting your energy resources from truly renewable means, then it simply doesn't matter how much energy you are consuming. That is a point that the Right-wing in the USA refuses to understand.
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: No

Time and again those of you who support the notion that President Obama deserves the Nobel Prize, state his "calming" influence and his "inspiration". But the facts do little to support that notion. Were or are the Taliban calmed? Did the Russians decide to fully enforce sanctions against an about-to-go-nuclear Iran? I wonder if the Polish and Czech Republic would agree with your "calming" description; or rather are they now feeling betrayed and vulnerable.It should take more than fuzzy warm feelings to earn such a prize, particularly when some of President Obama's actions and deeds might result in more violence and strife.It should smack anyone who cares about peace as an insult that President Obama now sits as an equal with the likes of Nelson Mandela, and Mother Theresa. Really, is President Obama's efforts or actions in any way comparable to these individuals?If the Nobel Prize is going to be awarded on such ephemeral criteria, then the Nobel Committee should be prepared for the trivialization of the award. Starting with Al Gore winning (now winning twice), Jimmy Carter (who ushered in another few decades of violence in the Middle East) and United Nations and Kofi Anin winning (in the same year that massive scandals were uncovered), it would seem that the Nobel Committee has lost any claim to be a serious contemplative body.
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: yes

I say "yes" with the qualification that it wasn't really all that warranted.A common misconception about the Nobel (Peace) Prize is that it's simply given out for what people have already done. But the prize is also given out to draw attention to global issues, peace initiatives or environmental dilemmas (etc.). And Obama is currently waist-deep in that stuff.I think that this is more of a challenge to Obama and his presidency--than it is a simple award to Obama--to try to do more to steer the world towards a better path. The United States President has the most weight of any world leader in sociopolitical arenas and people look to the US President(s) to help shape the world. And what better burden is there than having to shoulder the promise of a Nobel Peace Prize?
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: No

I was brought back to this debate, and saw your argument.Interesting stuff. What you're saying is that the Nobel Prize being given to Obama was merely a political move instead of one to reward him for his accomplishments in attaining peace (which would have been weird, since he has done nothing of the sort... at least Bush helped Africa; Obama has done nothing).Not that many advocates of Obama admit that his prize was merely political. If only we could get advocates of Al Gore to do the same.
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: yes

Like most people, I was surprised by the Nobel award.Then I recalled that the Nobel Peace Prize is often given in recognition of efforts, not accomplishments, and that the Nobel Committee often favors individuals who symbolically stand in place of a larger cause and larger group (e.g., Desmond Tutu on behalf of those who fought against apartheid).In that sense, the conservative pundits are right to a point in saying that Obama got the award for not being GW Bush. What they have left out of that analysis is that it is perfectly normal and justifiable for the Nobel Committee to award the prize as an endorsement or a spur-to-momentum for a particular political cause or position. Meaning, in other words, that the international community and the Nobel Commission in particular thinks that the recent shift in American politics is such a momentous change in favor of peace when compared to the policies of the former administration that America -- or at least, American liberals -- deserve a Nobel Peace Prize in acknowledgement of this shift. (Which says what, precisely, about how conservative American politics are perceived by the larger global community? Hmmm . . . nothing very favorable, I'd venture.)Rachel Maddow gives perhaps the best analysis of the award that I've seen yet, and explains more eloquently than I could, so I have included a link to her video clip -- which I feel is very much worth watching in order to put the award into an appropriate context.
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: yes

Although, I don't think he really deserved to win the Nobel Peace prize, its difficult to find any other candidates who deserve it more. Its true he is still the commander of forces engaged in war but I think, like another poster mentioned, that he has to most potential to make peace in the world. Another, strong point in his favor is the celebrations and rejoicing of the whole world after his election.
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: yes

I can appreciate you positive spin on it. At least now some countries may like us after Obama had to keep apologizing that we are mongers as a nation.
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: yes

i think yes. Most of the world loves america now other than when we had bush and office. Also who else would get it? Glen Beck said it should go and give it to the protesters (i belive they started the no peace, if we invaded a country and stared attacking them, why would our country get award in peace, thats what they are doing.)
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: surely I jest

Well I'm pretty sure the black community was getting fed up with white people as the symbol of this country for so long that Obama taking office did keep the peace between the white and black communities. (;
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: yes

He does deserve it.Why would he not?He IS trying to help the world andthe United States.Just because he hasn't put a huge amount into law yet doesn't mean a thingIf you read correctly, they said he wonfor his efforts! so yes!
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: No

You know, I think you may be onto something there. Maybe we should award the super bowl trophy to the team who tries the hardest. And hand out diplomas based on trying. And paychecks as well. I mean, Why stop there ;)
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: yes

Your examples are not relevant to this context. Sporting events are competitions with defined winners. Diplomas are awarded for credits earned by completing course requirements. Paychecks are collected for hours worked at a series of given tasks. But world peace is a process. It's not like all it takes to achieve world peace is the right team, or the right training, or the right number of manpower hours -- because creating peace is not really an issue of talent, training, might, or manpower. It's an issue of inspiring large groups of people to dedicate their continued efforts to peace. If you are waiting for world peace to break out because of the acts of a single individual before you award anybody the Nobel Peace Prize, you are going to be waiting a very long time.So of course it's appropriate to award the Nobel Peace Prize in recognition of efforts.
Debate: Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize... Do you think he deserved to win?
Side: No

Oh yeah, a process. Now I get it. And Obama was able to perfect that process after being in office for 11 days. Wow! That guy can do anything! He's really the messiah ;)