azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

By the way, in that link you put up above, did you notice that hardly any of the IQs passed 100? 100 is the average for a 5th grader. I find the graph to be misleading, seeing as the maker did not address the age of the people. I conclude this to mean that the maker of the graph was most likely an Atheist. It doesn't take my 12 yr old IQ to figure that out.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

This study has been done numeral times by different parties with the same results. Wether the guys doing the experiment are Atheists or not matters none since this is basically people telling if they are religious or not and then taking a standardized test (not made by the supposed atheist testers) and the test results are then put up on a XY graph.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

Congratulations, you just fucked up a string of comparatively intelligent retorts with your offtopic nitpicking. Plus..."I conclude this to mean that the maker of the graph was most likely an Atheist. It doesn't take my 12 yr old IQ to figure that out."Are you trying to play the smarter-than-you nitpicker, or the wanna-be-comedian? Pick one and roll with it; you look retarded pointing out minor spelling errors one second and then making lame ad hominem jokes the next.Just sayin'.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

Everything I posted just recently had to do with intelligence, it was completely on topic, seeing as he was staying that Atheists are smarter than religious people. I'm not implying that I am smarter than you or that I want to be a comedian. "I conclude this to mean that the maker of the graph was most likely an Atheist. It doesn't take my 12 yr old IQ to figure that out."Was meant to be a minor insult, seeing as he wasn't acting to kind towards Terminator.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

A single person's intelligence (especially inconsequential spelling mistakes) does not reflect on the intelligence of a group spanning millions of people. To use a single individual as the definition of a whole is, in the words of Benjamin Franklin, "Pretty fucking stupid". That goes for everyone, religious and atheist alike."Was meant to be a minor insult, seeing as he wasn't acting to kind towards Terminator."So you generalize and insult the entire demographic he's associating himself with. That makes perfect sense.(yes i am entirely aware that everyone in this debate is doing the exact same goddamn thing. one person at a time)
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

I did not associate him with Atheists when I said that, that comment was directed towards him and him alone.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

yeah, upon looking on your statement again the meaning is kind of ambiguous. that's is what I get for using this site as a way to let off steam.you can go ahead and disregard my statements as they pertain to you. I don't mind.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

It might very well be that "stupid people being drawn to religion" is also a big (and maybe bigger factor) like Aveskde says, but that hardly changes much my argument - I mean, why would stupid people be drawn by religions - could it be because it gives them simplfied answers (so they dont have to think much or train their brain)???Perhaps they are drawn to religion because, having a lower intelligence, they can only find acceptance in a religious group?Your friends are obviously very nice and complamentingThey are not my friends. Nobody knows me, truly. The people who think they know me best couldn't tell you the first thing about me.That being said, I am a different person on this site. I will bring up questions just because I love to debate. You seem to think that I am stupid (you already have a bias) for questioning you. Remember one thing: I question everything. Whether or not I need to be told the answer, I'll still mention it if only to 'spice up' the debate.Surely you are capable of comprehending that the words I used are superior to the supposed 'intelligence level' you have prejudged me of being?Also, remember that I think faster than I can type, thus I ofttimes get misunderstood.There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge.-Bertrand Russell.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

Just to level with you, I am not assuming you are stupid, even though I throw a snidy remark here and there. I just like it better when the debates arelively. Swear words bring out the best in people, I think.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

I point out the IQ relgiosity phenomena because it is well documented (been done several times by different parties) and because I love to hear the arguments that religious people have agianst it: and the arguments are usually simple minded statments about the philosopical limits and properties of scientific testing, like yours - and it seems non of you relgious lot know anything about how theorems are tested and made into sound theories.I think you're misinterpreting those studies however. Even though religiosity impedes critical thinking, it is a selective phenomenon. This is why, for example, we can have brilliant doctors who believe in creationism (they think critically about diagnostics but can't quite apply that to their dogma). There have also been, historically, a great many brilliant but religious minds that frankly dwarf us in their genius. They clearly could think critically, and indeed many of them tried desperately to reason their religion out and justify it, in vain. Religion appeals to simple people, however and this may explain the discrepancy. Simple-minded people like the big questions to have easy-to-digest and pre-packaged answers. They are also the most vocal, and open about their religiosity. Brilliant people can be heterodox with a complex mental justification for their beliefs, or they can completely avoid thinking about that area (selectivism). It would make sense that these people are less likely to give a direct answer to their religion, it'll either be vague (like Spinoza's god) or deeply personal, or they may fear being heterodox. We're also forgetting that many intellectuals HATE organised religion, even the religious ones.I would therefore suggest an explanation that religiosity attracts the simple-minded and so they make up the bulk of the "religious affirmative" pool. The intellectuals tend to be atheistic in modern culture, but also intellectuals may be private about their belief, or be deeply distrustful about organised religion, and so exclude themselves from the affirmative, being falsely labelled as negative.This to me would seem to be a more reasonable explanation for the discrepancy between the religious and irreligious in IQ tests.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

Actually, William James Sidis was an atheist. When in court after being arrested for a protest, he said he did not believe in any theistic conception of God. Furthermore, you are committing multiple logical fallacies Terminator. For one, you are cherry picking. Two, you are saying that if someone does X and is part of a group X, this is directly reflective of that group, which is a complete non sequitur. "Why is it that Christians can be insulted and harassed and nobody gives a shit..."You are making another fallacy in the form of an argument as an appeal to emotion. How Christians are treated in relation to other groups of people is not relevant to the truth-value of a premise. Your statement "It does correlate directly..." is yet another fallacy. Please see correlation does not imply causation. "Name me a few wars begun by atheists..."Another fallacy. Particularly, this is a red herring. Being able to pick out a certain event or group of people isn't relevant to the truth-value of an argument. So that is about five fallacies and one factually incorrect statement. I ask that you please refrain from committing so many fallacies in the future.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

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Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

Here are your sources buddy. Wikipedia, politics and arrest section: "During the trial, Sidis stated that he had been a conscientious objector of the World War I draft, did not believe in a god, and defined himself as a socialist." You can also go sidis.net to get the rest of the information."I do commit them for a reason..."So...you commit fallacies for a reason? So you're intentionally illogical? Ok then."If they won't handle non-believers why should I not think that they've something to hide?"I am not following you here. This makes no sense. I am not even going to bother to read through the rest of this. The entire response reads as if it is written by some whiney 12 year old. Also, all caps makes you right. Nice logic fail.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

He totally rejected formal theology and religion- while having no doubt that a higher power existed... Review of Sidis' biography"I do commit them for a reason..."People are extremely fallacious. If I am to convince them of something, I must use a fallacy.Take, for instance, the 'appeal to the emotions'. I will write an emotional reason to accept what I am saying, even though most who know me believe me not to have emotions.I am not following you here. This makes no sense. I am not even going to bother to read through the rest of this. The entire response reads as if it is written by some whiney 12 year old. Also, all caps makes you right. Nice logic fail.Your arguments on here are completely useless. All you do is say 'this is a fallacy' and 'this is a fallacy'. What's the point?Also, I write in such a manner because it will elicit an emotional response - depending on the reader - from the reader.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

I am not going to apologize for being logical. If someone makes a formal error in reasoning, I believe they should be called out on it. Since people don't like being called out on being illogical, they react emotionally instead of sticking to the topic at hand. That's simply not my problem.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

I know that I shall never convince you, but all show of emotionality on my part is an act to elicit an emotional response from my reader.I've convinced people using that 'fallacy'.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

Of course. Pathos is a strong communication technique. But I judge someones argument based on if it makes the most sense, not if it elicits the strongest reaction from someone.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

But you are one of the few.If I can control the reader - either intellectually, mentally, emotionally, etc. - then I am much closer to convincing them that I am right.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

Personally, it doesn't matter what you think, because realistically, this could never occur. However, I agree that we atheists should all be moved somewhere to start an empire bounded only by the laws of nature. This gets what everyone wants. Still say though, not possible
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

Absolutely. We'll occupy southern France. Christians need to struggle in order to prove themselves in the eye(s) of God. Atheists need to lie on the beach and drink good wine after a lifetime of combating ignorance.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

I signed up just to respond to this old a$$ argument. All these posts were so quick to say what religion Hitler was and back and forth - rubbish. Anyways, my answer is Yes. Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest. Anyone at all, like Hitler, should be - atheist or not. See what I did there? :)
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

Yes, because the next time someone tries to convert me, I'm going to have to put my Jiu Jitsu into practice. I'm sick of christians!...can we get Hawaii?
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

Just a heads up..., Hawaiians do not like non-natives. They especially don't like white folks. So..., may end up having to fight them for it ;)
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

Dammn. How about Japan- they have tis population crisis where they don't have enough people? And volcanoes:)
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

You'll stick out like a sore thumb but they are more open to foreigners ;)
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

How do you know I'm not oriental??????????????????????????????????
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

I didn't say you were not oriental. I said you are not Japanese. ;)
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

I might be Chinese and speak Japanese, without accent, and could pass for Japanese... this is just getting nonsensical.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

They can spot their own. ;)
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

Let's just say it was an occidental mistake. ;)
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

Meh, I can't- but I went to an international school- never bothered distinguishing. Nope, I'm British- although I have friends from hong-kong.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

I also looked at your avatar and you do not look Asian..., so my statement stands..., you will stick out like a Gaijin ;)
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

そして再び、私は今あなたを笑っている90歳の日本人の男���ゃない方法を知っています���？
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

A 90 year old man is laughing at me now? Really ;)
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

It didn't traslate well. It was meant to be I could be a nintey year old Japanese man, and laughing at you right now. You never know...
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

So we don't need to deal with cults holding us back from advancing the human race. Enjoy praying your Cancer away.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

I don't think Hitler was ever separated from the human race. Until he killed himself, that is.... So...good luck subduing and separating all the atheists. Religion starts wars, atheism only correlates with them. So if we're banning things in the name of peace, let's start there.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

there is in fact, very little proof to show Hitler was a atheist, but there was a load of statements to show he was a catholic,http://www.stephenjaygould.org/ctrl/quotes_hitler.html Mao and Stalin are commonly pointed to be atheist, but they simply hated most religion because they saw it as a enemy to their power, so they made themselves a religious cult to be worshiped.atheism never starts a war, something that can not be said for religion.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Small footnote

Communist-Atheism kills people. During Stalin and Zedong's reign they prosecuted religious people, Christians, Buddhists, Muslims, etc. I used Zedong instead of Mao because we are using Stalin's last name, so I think we should use Zedong's last name, too. Mao and Stalin are commonly pointed to be atheist, but they simply hated most religion because they saw it as a enemy to their power, so they made themselves a religious cult to be worshiped.Doesn't that still make them Atheist?
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

Yes, it makes them religious people who probably don't believe in God. Most atheists are anti-religious though.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

I kinda like my Christian, Jewish and Muslim friends and family. I actually don't know all that many atheists so I'd probably be pretty lonely.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

Well, I would hate having to spend my days with Hitler, Mao and Stalin... fuckin' Atheists.Yes, I am a major Atheist, but even I hate other atheists (really, just the Liberal kind, which are a lot). I mean, Secular Humanism has to be the gayest thing to ever come out of Atheism.Why can't more of them be Libertarians? Ass fuckers.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Where is the love

Damn, what's with all the hate?I promise we're not that bad.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

I have friends who I consider pretty great who are atheists, so I'm with you here. And I'd be kind of ticked if they all had to move. I only know like ONE guy who is an atheist who I'd be okay with moving to Australia or somewhere, but that's because he's a jerk, not because he's an atheist. x]
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

Why can't more of them be Libertarians? Ass fuckers.Because libertarianism is for the naive well-wishers who think that no government intervention will make everyone suddenly play nice with each other, and the selfish pricks who want to be able to own monopolies with sweatshop conditions while they take in all the profits.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

Libertarians don't believe in fairy tales like Anarchists or Communists. They're well aware of the consequences of a free market, they just prefer it over a much too powerful government.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

Libertarians don't believe in fairy tales like Anarchists or Communists. They're well aware of the consequences of a free market, they just prefer it over a much too powerful government.Believing a free market can work is the same as believing in a fairy tale. It's one of those things that is so obvious, it hardly needs explanation.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

A free market can and does work. Are we talking Anarcho-Capitalism? No, we're talking your basic Capitalist structure with little to no regulation. People point to The Great Depression, as if that SOMEHOW it was because of free market. No, it's because of people. We've had plenty of depressions and recessions WITH government regulation. Why? Because people fuck shit up.Making government powerful isn't a cure all, because guess who runs government: people. Just a handful instead of the majority. Under free market, everyone runs themselves, under Socialism, everyone is ran by a small amount.
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely

A free market can and does work. Are we talking Anarcho-Capitalism? No, we're talking your basic Capitalist structure with little to no regulation. People point to The Great Depression, as if that SOMEHOW it was because of free market. No, it's because of people. We've had plenty of depressions and recessions WITH government regulation. Why? Because people fuck shit up.I'm pondering whether you believe this out of insanity (the old adage an insane person believes doing the same thing will yield different results), or ignorance.You're arguing that the same type of market that gave us us sweatshops, monopolies like the oil barons from the 1800s, and harsh penalties against worker's unions, amongst all sorts of power imbalances because of how companies were able to rape and pillage the land and their workers with no oversight, would somehow magically sort itself out if we reverted back to it.A free market was tried, in many countries, and it failed. That's why we don't have it any longer.Making government powerful isn't a cure all, because guess who runs government: people. Just a handful instead of the majority. Under free market, everyone runs themselves, under Socialism, everyone is ran by a small amount.A free market has nothing to do with individual liberty. A free market has only to do with CORPORATE and INDUSTRY liberty. See the little trick you pulled? You took the liberties that only employers and executives would want, and made the assumption that those liberties apply to everyone, including the employees.A free market gives these few people the power to mistreat you. If you're one of them, hey I guess that's why you want MORE power. But if you're an employee or consumer (remember the pharmaceutical laws that banned quackery products from being sold as legitimate cures? remember all those bills and acts that hold companies accountable for say, selling you radioactive water? that's government regulation that doesn't exist in a free market) you don't care about "employer rights."
Debate: Atheists, like Hitler, should be separated from the rest of the human race
Side: Absolutely not

once again trying to match anarcho-capitalism with Capitalism.Capitalism would have safety regulations (such as clean shit and no false advertising) as a means to end deception, keep people physically safe and abide by contract. This is called law enforcement and is not the same as Socialist regulation.Socialist regulation entitles the government to control how a business is operated. Be it worker's rights, wage, anti-trust laws, etc.And monopolies and sweat shops are not proof that a free market doesn't work...