Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

Hi, I'm Joel's Dad and want to let you know he's only 12 years old. I just found out he was posting here a couple days ago. I have not read through all the posts here, so maybe he mentioned that he's only 12, maybe not. In any case, I'm proud of him. He's an amazing kid. Has skipped a grade, can jam on the piano, sing, and act. And he knows the Lord. I probably should have put that first. I just want to say that the biggest problem in this kind of debate is that no amount of argument will convince any unbeliever because they have chosen to believe against evidence. The fact that you spend this much time arguing against something that you say doesn't exist shows you're very biased against that One who DOES exist. God has already spoken to this saying the nations "rage against the Lord and his anointed one (Christ)" (Psalm 2). The unbeliever, by nature, is a "child of wrath" (Ephesians 2) and as opposed to God as Satan. So, you're reactions and dishonesty, and unwillingness to consider the evidence that is mountainous shows that God's word is true about you. Your conscience (God's moral law within) is a great proof of God, as is the astounding creation and all the inter-relationships of the natural and physical realm, which could never have occurred without the First Cause, God Himself. But you will believe it happened all by itself - well that's not only unscientific, but it's irrational. As for the resurrection, it can be proven along a couple of historical or legal lines of evidence quite soundly. For example, it was proven using the laws of evidence by one of the co-founders of the Harvard Law School, Simon Greenleaf, Jewish man who can to faith THROUGH STUDYING THE GOSPELS' TESTIMONY TO THE EVENT. The slight differences between the gospels are actually credits to their veracity. If they said the same thing at every point it would be said there was collusion (Read Greenleaf on this in "The Testimony of the Evangelists"). In the end, though, evidence is not the problem, as I've noted, it is our bias against God from and selfish, proud, God-hating heart.There are literally thousands of books and DVDs available by scientists and theologians of the highest quality that know the living God. Have you ever carefully viewed or read any of them? Google can lead you to many of them. Try Westiminster Seminary's bookstore online and go to "apologetics" where sound reasons for believing in the Christian faith can be found. Jason Sarfati, a chess champion, and Phd. scientist wrote a book refuting evolution. There are many more such books. Have any of you, seriously desiring to know the truth, sought God and considered the many resources out there without a mocking, prejudiced spirit? I seriously doubt it. I know about being personally biased against God, because I once held all the same views you did until I received a new nature - His divine nature - imparted to me in His kindness, as well as forgiveness, 21 years ago. Your problem is the same as mine (was): 1) selfish nature focused on self, desires, and passions; and 2) pride - an unwillingness to acknowledge the Creator. NO AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE WILL CONVINCE YOU. I've argued unbelievers into a position where they had no arguments left and then, what did they do? They walked away. No repentance, no faith, no knowledge and experience of God. Repentance and faith are gifts of God. May He give them to you. In the meantime, we will debate, but we will also proclaim the living Christ and He will save his chosen ones by His power and grace, even those who argue against Him and resist Him with all their might, like I once did Thankfully, more and more are coming to know Him, and He's still in the saving business for a little while longer. I hope that some of you will be honest and face your bias and really pursue the Lord and find salvation and true joy and life in Him, the author of joy and life. He says, "seek and you will find, knock and it will be opened to you," (Matthew 7) and "seek the Lord while He may be found." (Isaiah 55) Blessings.