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Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Fetus means little one. How do you not know this, Markie?You can only address me as Markie pooh from now on, got it?What has your public edumication afforded you, except to turn you away from the Truth which is Jesus?Public education does not encourage one religion over another, at least its not supposed to. The problem is that Jesus is not the "truth", in the sense that you believe it to be. Jesus was a normal person like you or me, assuming he existed. There was nothing supernatural about him. By the way, I was raised Catholic and at the age of nine, I remember vividly the day a priest lied to us about the Bible being filled with nice fairy tales.I was raised catholic as well. At age 18 I went on a quest of truth to discover if god existed and if the bible was true, after all of my research it has become abundantly clear that god's existence and the validity of the bible is just wishful thinking that comforts people. It makes many people feel good to know that a higher power is watching over them, even if he doesn't really exist. The phrase "Ignorance is bliss" really explains the situation here, for most at least. I would rather accept reality as it is, than believe in something that comforts me. And by the way, your priest told you the truth, the supernatural stuff in the bible is a bunch of fairy tales. The non supernatural ones are plausible.  At the age of eighteen I knew the evolution I was learning in biology class was lies too. No, you are factually incorrect. The Theory of Evolution has already been confirmed to be true thousands if not millions of times. There is so much evidence for it, and so little that opposes it, I find it unfathomable to reject evolution "just because".
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

It is a person! Just because it is not fully developed does not mean that it is worthless.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

I get tired of hearing women say it's my body, my choice. Well after you become pregnant it's NO longer just your body, your choice. What about your baby's body and choice. I bet if you ask the baby, he/she would say give me a chance at life, rather than have it snuffed out. To those women that say it's my body, my choice, why is it fair you had a chance at life, but you refuse to afford your baby the same chance at life. If you get rid of, make something stop living, that is murder. If you cut up an apple, make it juice, or sauce, the bottom line is, it's still an apple. Murder is murder no matter how you label it or twist it, murder is murder.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

I get tired of hearing women say it's my body, my choiceOh, so apparently it's your choice then? You get to dictate what women can or cannot do with their bodies now.  I bet if you ask the baby, he/she would say give me a chance at life, rather than have it snuffed out.This is irrelevant, for it is impossible anyways. Babies can't even talk until weeks/months after birth. And if you were a fetus, you wouldn't be aware of your existence or non existence. To those women that say it's my body, my choice, why is it fair you had a chance at life, but you refuse to afford your baby the same chance at life.Isn't the baby biologically dependent upon the mother for life? Consider this: Person X is dying because he needs a kidney. Person Y is the only person in the world who has a kidney that his body won't reject. Under your previous logic with abortion, police and doctors would force Person Y to give up his kidney in order to save this man. Compare it to abortion. The fetus needs the mother, just as Person X needs the kidney. Without the mother, the fetus dies. Without the kidney, Person X dies. So your solution is to force the mother to continue the pregnancy, and force Person Y to give up his kidney to save Person X. Fetal viability becomes possible around week 24-25, meaning the fetus can survive outside of the uterus with the assistance of medical technology.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

WOW !!! Your kidney argument is the first new argument on this subject I've seen in years. Powerful logic.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Doctors can not FORCE someone to give up their organs and if they is being practiced here in America it is illegal and should be reported.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

that was clearly ment to be hypothetical. Yess no Doctor can force someone to give up there organs Just like NOBODY can force someone to give birth to a baby.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

WOW DUMBASS!!Doctors can not FORCE someone to give up their organs...you're right Doctors can not FORCE someone to give up their organs, police can not FORCE someone to give up their organs, the law can not FORCE someone to give up their organs. SO given ALL THAT! lets say im prego...but i don't want to be prego...because i was raped(some thing that is illegal and should be reported.) but i don't want to have this kid but in this world abortion is illegal (thats what u want right for it to be seen as murder) so i will be forced to share my organs with somebody i don't even WANT around!
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Okay so anyone who starts their debate argument with "WOW DUMBASS" most likely doesn't know how to debate properly. Fear not i shall bring myself down to your level to make this easier for you. As a women you would know that ovulation is for about 2-3 out of a month, 80% of fertilized eggs still dont make it and it is what we call menstruation. The chances of a women getting pregnant from unprotected sex is about 11% (go to your nearest plan parent hood they will tell you!) 7% percent of most abortions is related to rape. that means that more than half of women who get abortions just arent ready to be parents. But isnt it weird that they were ready to have sex unprotected. I refuse to pay taxes because someone didnt pull out...wrap it up keep it moving. women who get raped should report it and to the women who dont I truly understand why they are afraid to..i truly do..but there are things to take like plan B.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Oh my that's rediculous! For one, your example of person x and y as a comparative example to the dependency a fetus has to the carrying mother is not remotely related at all. Someone who needs a kidney from someone wasn't somebody they depended on to live to begin with! In a collective political society such as what we live in as human beings your damn right it's our choice to say weather a woman can have or not have an abortion. People make decisions everyday that to them it's a personal decision but fail to realize as a society it affects everyone. It's irrelevant if a fetus is aware of it's life when it comes to justifying its death by a means of escaping responsibility... are you nuts?
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

In a collective political society such as what we live in as human beings your damn right it's our choice to say weather a woman can have or not have an abortion. People make decisions everyday that to them it's a personal decision but fail to realize as a society it affects everyone.You sound like an ass hole...wtf do you mean it's our choice to say whether a woman can have an abortion...fuck you it's actually not you or anybody else's decision its her and her boyfriend/husband's decision if she has one. not yours. i don't even understand where you think at ALL that is your place. and how does whether or not a woman aborts her child effect you...if it weren't for the protests and what not...would you even know that that's where your less the 1% if your tax money goes? and if it weren't for the fact that your money goes toward it would you even care? NO! don't lie and answer yes just think to your self..if i didn't know that less than 1% of my taxes goes to planed parenthood...would i care
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

"I bet if you ask the baby, he/she would say give me a chance at life, rather than have it snuffed out."When a baby is aborted, he/she is not nearly capable of intelligent thought.Think about rape victims though. Imagine you are a woman (or if you are a woman, then just imagine the scenario) who gets raped. After you were raped, you were brutally beaten and left to die. But you didn't die, you were saved just in time and taken to the hospital. Now a few weeks have gone by and you are still shook up. This is something you will never fully get over and you will always remember the man's face. You now suffer from depression and have trouble going out in public. You eventually return to the hospital and discover that you are pregnant with the man's baby. The man who raped you. The child will obviously look like his/her father to an extent. A constant reminder of what happened to you. Now imagine the problems the child will have after discovering that his father was/is a rapist.What if the woman was a teenager?
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

The famous gospel singer, Ethel Waters, was a product of rape. Her mother was 13 years old when she became pregnant with Ethel, and what a tremendous blessing Ethel Waters was to this dark world! A light for Jesus Christ, King of kings and Lord of lords! Praise God Ethel was not ruthlessly, violently slaughtered while in her young mother's womb!
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Ethel Waters was born in 1896. Getting an abortion was out of the question back then. Obviously she grew to be a well-respected musician and I can see your view on the matter. Her abortion would have been a waste of talent, but she didn't have any talent weeks after she was conceived, and what makes you think that an abortion is the "ruthless, violent slaughter" of a child in the womb? What if you were raped by a family member? A brother or even your father, the child will likely be born with deformities and since you are religious, his existence would be seen as a sin, would it not?
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

I don't THINK an abortion is the diabolical, ruthless, violent slaughtering of a developing child in the womb. I KNOW IT IS! Promiscuous sexual activity that produces a child is a sin, but a child is always an unmitigated blessing from God. ALWAYS, for that is what God's Holy Word, the Bible, declares. Might I suggest you pick up a Bible and start reading in John. Jesus' first words of his public ministry were, "Repent and believe."
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

I don't THINK an abortion is the diabolical, ruthless, violent slaughtering of a developing child in the womb. I KNOW IT IS!No you don't. This is just a statement by you as an illusion of knowledge, meant to sway others to your position. Promiscuous sexual activity that produces a child is a sin, but a child is always an unmitigated blessing from God. ALWAYS, for that is what God's Holy Word, the Bible, declares. Might I suggest you pick up a Bible and start reading in John. Jesus' first words of his public ministry were, "Repent and believe."Get this bible and god shit out of here. Outlawing abortion for religious reasons is prohibited by the constitution. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. You are making this decision based on your religious beliefs, and if you seek to legislate this, that is against the constitution.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Get your blasphemy out of here. I'm sorry your frontal lobe has not finished developing, and you are an arrogant prick!
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Get your blasphemy out of here.I'll continue to blaspheme as I please. If anyone's brain has not finished developing, it is yours. As evidence by your use of logical fallacies, only an idiot would do that. Get over yourself and provide a valid argument. Or if your brain is incapable of coming up with a simple logic based (instead of logic lacking) argument, continue with your use of logical fallacies.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

blah, blah, blah, all you atheists sound the same. A broken record. So predictable. Yawn.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Go read your recent posts and tell me who sounds like the broken record
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Is your opinion on abortion based solely off your religious beliefs? I know this is not meant to be a religious debate, but you mention god and the bible in each of your responses.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Leviticus 21:16-2316 The Lord said to Moses, 17 “Say to Aaron: ‘For the generations to come none of your descendants who has a defect may come near to offer the food of his God. 18 No man who has any defect may come near: no man who is blind or lame, disfigured or deformed; 19 no man with a crippled foot or hand, 20 or who is a hunchback or a dwarf, or who has any eye defect, or who has festering or running sores or damaged testicles. 21 No descendant of Aaron the priest who has any defect is to come near to present the food offerings to the Lord. He has a defect; he must not come near to offer the food of his God. 22 He may eat the most holy food of his God, as well as the holy food; 23 yet because of his defect, he must not go near the curtain or approach the altar, and so desecrate my sanctuary. I am the Lord, who makes them holy.’”Like I said earlier, incestual rape can lead to the birth of a deformed child. While these verses do not actually support abortion, it does prove my point that deformities are seen as a sin in the eyes of God. People who are deformed in any way, shape or form are condemned from approaching God's altar. This is in the Bible, "God's Holy Word" as you put it. God would never punish someone for something they had no control over, right?
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

You do not grasp how the Old and New Testaments go together. Deformities are not viewed as sinful in God's eyes NOW. You are right - God does not punish folks for what they have no control over. He is a holy God and does not wink at sin, but He is also loving and merciful. If you seek Him, you will find Him!
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

I do. Jesus died for our sins, therefore deformities are now forgiven. You got me on that. I find the Old Testament to be much more fascinating and enjoy quoting it when given the opportunity lol. Since Jesus did die for our sins, wouldn't abortion be forgiven?
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Of course the sin of abortion is forgiven if the one who was involved in it turns from the sin, repenting of it, and genuinely seeks to be forgiven.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

I left you a longer argument. Respond to that if you get a chance. I'd like to see what you think.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Yes, I agree it's a relief that Ethan Waters wasn't killed when she was in her mother's womb, but not all fetuses grow up to be great like her.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Yes rape is unfortunate, but in no way is it the babies fault, therefor simply disposing of the baby is not the right option. In fact murder should not be an option. Life is a precious gift, and EVERYONE even babies conceived in rape should have the equal right at life. I would like to think if asked, people conceived in rape are happy their mothers choice life for them. Now ask yourself, what if you found out that you were conceived in rape, would you have wished to not be here? I like to think not, I also think most everyone appreciates their chance at life and honors their mothers for choosing life.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Now ask yourself, what if you found out that you were conceived in rape, would you have wished to not be here?Whether I would have wished to be here or not doesn't matter, because I am making this decision in hindsight. You must go back to before you existed to make a good judgment on the matter. If you didn't exist before you were conceived, how would you have been disappointed about not living? You wouldn't have existed to make the thought "damn, I wish I were alive!", therefore this question is entirely invalid. You asked the question with hindsight in mind. But you must take hindsight out of the entire question in order to provide a good answer.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Agreed. I'm tired of hearing that as well.The normal human desire, a lot of times right up to the last breath, is to stay alive, to keep living. We struggle for survival when we're sick, in many ways that we are not even conscious of. The body's natural fight is for life, not death. People commit suicide when they are emotionally ill.And I'm tired of other woman arguing that it's not a 'baby' until it's able to survive on it's own. What is it, then, a puppy? People treat the unborn no better than a bagful of cats they would drown in a lake. It's horrendous.That attitude fulfills a Bible scripture (2 Timothy 3:1-5), where it was stated that people would "have no natural affection."Any woman that could abort their baby has no natural affection, even if it is rape. Kill the rapist rather than the baby.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

So a woman in a high flying career/ looking forwards to finishing university/ sixth form or even secondary school should give up their future for the sake of an unwanted child?
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

It IS a woman's body, and it IS a woman's choice. A woman's uterus is essentially a breeding ground for the potential of a human life to develop -- is it a sin when a woman miscarries? After all, she indirectly had a hand in the destruction of a human life.What about if a woman gets raped, either by a relative of hers or by a complete stranger? Was it HER body, HER choice for her body to be mutilated by a man? The argument you present would insist that a woman MUST go through with her pregnancy regardless of the terms, whether it be rape, incest, or whether the woman's life is in danger as a result of the pregnancy. We no longer live in the 1700s, we do not have to live by the archaic rules of society set forth for us back then. We are a progressive society by nature and we should allow women the opportunity to exercise complete control over their bodies -- whether or not they decide to abort their pregnancy is THEIR choice, NOT yours.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

U guys just don't get it! It isn't just a women's body. There is a human being inside of her. It's illegal to murder any human being and nobody can argue that murder isn't wrong. So why are we killing little babies. You must have never seen or held a newborn baby if you think that it is okay to kill them. They can't even speak for themselves. It's just plain wrong. In the cases of rape, the woman does not need to keep the baby, she can put it up for adoption where it at least has a chance to live.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

800 women die every day, according to the WHO, during childbirth. I'd think that we'd agree that the woman's life is more important than a bundle of infant stem cells.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Who? According to who? Is this an Abbott and Costello skit? ;)
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

World Health Organisation. W-H-O
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

I know who is. I was just trying to be funny. Hence the smiling dog and the smileys at the end of my arguments ;)
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

When a woman is pregnant, her baby is NOT part of her body! Her body is nourishing her baby, and the baby has its own DNA, different from the mother's. Heck, her baby may even be a boy. For folks to say the baby is part of the mother's body is ludicrous. If any part of a woman's body is cut off, that severed part cannot survive on its own. If, however, the baby is removed from the mother's body, depending on the age of the little one, the baby can survive out of the mother's body, because it is a separate individual.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

By this logic, any abortion before viabilty is acceptable.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

No one is arguing that chopping a woman's arm off from her body will allow that arm to live on its own.DNA may be present inside of the organism that rests inside of the uterus, but my skin cells have DNA too. We're not going to make a law making it illegal to exfoliate.But to make the argument that a baby's life begins at conception is just as, if not more, ludicrous than the idea that a baby is nothing more than a leech waiting inside of a uterus in order to reach the point of sustainable life. A zygote is VERY different than a human.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

You're not only funnylookin', you're also stupidthinkin'. Abortion is legalized murder. It's akin to slavery.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Until it is out of the womb and surviving on it's own, it is only a potential human.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

It you say. It? Tell that to my young daughter who traveled joyfully to the birthing center to deliver her first child, only to leave with empty arms! Why was it so hard for us to even breathe for a long time after her birth? You're telling me that a mere blob caused us broken hearts? Why did my daughter's full breasts, and an empty cradle cause us such devastation? Why is my daughter saving all her pennies to purchase a grave marker for her full term, seven pound - 9 ounce, still born daughter if she wasn't a human yet? What was the point of my daughter naming my first granddarling? What was the reason for us to take her tiny lifeless body to have her prepared for burial? What was the point of her memorial services? Why do we longingly visit her grave and decorate it? Why do we miss her at every holiday and birthday? Why do we miss her when we think of all the milestones we are missing with her? Why will we miss her for the rest of our lives? Are we really only shedding tears over a potential baby? Is our profound grief for just a blob of potentiality?
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Every thing you wrote in this response is entirely an argument from emotion, a logical fallacy. Your argument is invalid. I disagree with burnjuan's statement, but you could have came up with a better counter argument than what you just wrote.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

I appreciate your compassion for our family's profound loss of our treasured family member, the little girl we had many hopes and dreams for, the little flower whose valuable life we will forever mourn. How dare you dispute our reality?
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Sorry if the truth hurts. If your argument was intended to refute what burnjuan said, it was complete shit since it relied entirely on the logical fallacy of appeal to emotion. I can come up with a refutation to burnjuan's argument myself, it shouldn't be difficult for you to. How dare I dispute your reality? Wtf are you talking about?
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

You're sorry? I bet you never admit to being wrong. How dare you speak so callously of our profound suffering???
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

I bet you never admit to being wrong.No, I was wrong yesterday on another debate. It was a debate discussing the normality of sexual attraction to animals. http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/ Is_it_normal_for_humans_to_find_sexual_attractions_to_animals