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Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: yes

Definately yes, I grew up in an area that had large gay community and have seen the recklessness of it and the complete hatred against normal marriages. They say that they want to be accepted but they are slanted against being fair to the straight community.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: yes

Obviously it is a sin! God made it clear MANY times that the homosexual are going to be judged and put to death in the engulfing flames of Hell along with the adulters and the sexually immoral.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: Yes

http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/ Are peoplelyingtothemselvestofeellovedby_God#arg0 I really need some answers.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: Yes

Alright, everyone on the "No" side are acting as if attraction towards the other gender means "sex, sex, sex, gAy sex" No, it shouldn't be. I know I'm going to get struck by the storm when the Christians see this but I'm going to be honest.. If your God says loving someone who has the same body parts as you is wrong, they're actually retarded.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: Yes

It doesn't really matter if it's considered a sin by you people, the Bible is clear it is a sin, therefore this debate is pointless...
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: Yes

I was having some doubts where to post it in yes or no. But whatever. I suppose that first of all we should define "sin".If we go all religious in a christian way - there is no question to debate on. The Bible is quite clearly saying that yep it is. But if we define sin as a something that is or should be judged by the society, something bad and inappropriate - we have much more room for a discussion. From my point of view the homosexuality itself is really not that bad. I mean come on every person should have his right to do anything he wants with his ass. But the trouble with homosexuality as i see it is that all that raging homosexuals and the guys that are fighting for their rights are now trying to break all the family system that was stable and working for ages. Allowing them to marry, to adopt children etc. isn't even that bad itself, although it has some drastic impacts on society, but it's a precedent, that theoretically allows all other sexual minorities demand official recognition. I mean hell why is it ok to have sex with a dude, but not ok to have sex with a pig or a cow? Why can't i marry my beloved pony? Or why homosexualism is a nice and pleasant thing, but pedophilia is not? And there are even more complications. Lets speak on behalf of society itself. The government is highly interested in healthy and strong traditional families, that will have healthy children and all that stuff. What is more the government starts different social programs like i don't know.. An appartment for each young family or 10000 bucks for each child or anything else. Juridically the gay couple is nothing worse than a notgay couple, but factically the society is not interested in them.And there are more and more different factors that should be taken in consideration.I really think that society should accept gay people. They should not be judged, they should have an opportunity to be together, to love each other, etc. With no doubt gay people were having a hard time. But we should not give them everything they want in excuse. We should really think about all the consequences of this. So in conclusion i'd like to say that of course the times when being gay was something for what you could go to jail have passed. And now we should all learn to live near gay people and try to understand them. But it doesn't mean that we should totally approve everything gay people do. It's like the smoking people no one really thinks that smokers are discriminated, but the society judges them and has some restrictions. Same with the drug users. With extremely obese people. With hookers. With religious fanatics. And so on.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: Yes

Passingby all I can say is I hope you really are just passing by.Wow where to start.the guys that are fighting for their rights are now trying to break all the family system that was stable and working for ages.What family system are you refering to?Allowing them to marry, to adopt children etc. isn't even that bad itself, although it has some drastic impacts on societyCare to elaborate?I mean hell why is it ok to have sex with a dude, but not ok to have sex with a pig or a cow? Why can't i marry my beloved pony?I love how people go from humans to animals. How some peoples brains make that leap is so sad it's funny. Pass when people start wanting to marry their beloved pony we'll cross that bridge then. So far beloved pony nuptuals are not in great demand but should that change we'll let you head the commitee to solve that issue.Frankly if you want sex with an animal I think it's ok for you. I'm really concerned for the animal though.Or why homosexualism is a nice and pleasant thing, but pedophilia is not?Did you even think this one thru??? Sex with a minor is against the law. They are minors and not old enough to make decisions about sex; hetero or homosexual.I have no idea what you're talking about in the last half of your post.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

What family system are you refering toWell the system that worked for european society for hundreds of years allready i suppose.The thing with marrying animals is of course gross, but if we could say 30 years ago "Marriage is a union between a man and a woman. Point. That's it. So go and live with ur pony but don't come to try to marry again". Now a person wanting to marry a pony will have a right to say "Come on how am i worse than a homo? Why did you change the laws for them but don't change them for me?"Did you even think this one thru??? Sex with a minor is against the law.Hm.. i wonder was homosexualism ever against the law?
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: Yes

Well the system that worked for European society for hundreds of years already i suppose.1) Why are you only referring to European family systems?2) If family systems "worked" to a point where we can say that homosexuals were stirring the pot, then we wouldn't need institutions like Child Services, divorce lawyers, Women's Rights movements, arranged marriages, etc. The imperfections of the "family system", ESPECIALLY in the European society, is endless. People were forced into arranged marriages, spousal abuse, child abuse, and so on. I can go on for hours to point out all the problems with the way society views what a family structure is SUPPOSED to be. And the further you go back, the more the system is flawed. At least now, we have laws protecting people from certain offenses that were the norm 100's of years ago. Finally,PassingBy, comparing homosexuality to pedophilia or bestiality is just wrong...unless of course you are Mike Huckabee, who seems to think the same. I don't get how you can say in one breath that you are not opposed to homosexuality, but then compare it to bestiality and pedophilia. Unless of course you are condoning both of those actions as well. First of all, in both pedophilia and bestiality the act is not consensual. Homosexual sex is consensual and thus can only be compared to those sexual actions that ARE consensual also!
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Wonderful points. I would just like to elaborate on the key part of your argument: consent. Only human beings of an adult age are able to give consent to have sexual intercourse. Animals and children are mentally incapable of understanding what sex is, its implications, and handling the many responsibilities that come from having sex (and its results). Also, I do not understand what the "family structures" fuss is all about. What homosexual acceptance and marriage would do is actually add structure and expand the franchise of family to another group of people.Homosexuals now don't have much of the social supports and structures that are helpful and necessary for developing a prosperous family. Homosexuals, myself included, aren't in it just to have wild and crazy sex; we want a future. We want to settle down, have children, and raise them in the same suburban houses surrounded by white picket fences as you straight people do. We want to be cared for in our old age, we want to spoil our grandchildren, and we want to accepted as equal and valuable members of our society. None of that has anything to do with raping a cow or child. None of that sounds very sinful to me.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: Yes

It's also just plain sick!
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Such eloquent logic and reasoning!
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: Yes

A little girl on girl action...I like that.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

NO. What two people do in private is none of our effin business.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

I agree whole heartedly! I don't care what people do behind closed doors. There is so little love in this world that any love should be cherished.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: Yes

Where do you draw the line? Do you care about incest or homosexual incest?
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

I see no problem with incest as long as no offspring are conceived. Not that I would ever do it.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: Yes

Agree - Really don't care. But, offspring can be a little messed up genetically.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: Yes

Incest is also what two people could do in private. Are you OK with incest?
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

With the caveat that both have to be consenting.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Do you support incest if they are both consenting?
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

I don't care about Incest, the same way I don't care about Homosexuality. It just doesn't bother me. The reason for the incest taboo lies mainly in keeping the gene pool fresh.Let's be clear, we are talking about consensual incest - not child abuse. But if some cousins fall in love I don't care.Link just for fun.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Problem with that is this is asking more along the lines if being a homosexual is a sin. This is not a sin. What would be considered a sin by the bible is having sex with the same sex. Now as for homosexual Marriage & Rights being the same as incest marriage & rights how do you connect these tow concepts? They seem like different ideas to me.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: Yes

agree entirely
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

"According to University of Oslo zoologist Petter Böckman, about 1,500 animal species are known to practice same-sex coupling, including bears, gorillas, flamingos, owls, salmon and many others."
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

In a rational society it is no longer enough to consider something a "Sin" because an antiquated book declares, under the guise of God's authority, for it to be one. Have a quick read through Genesis and you will find all sorts of "sins" we have discarded as backwards, ridiculous beliefs: masturbation, speaking to a menstruating woman, eating crustaceans, etc. Homosexuality does not hurt anyone. It does no a priori damage to society, as far as I can see. Furthermore, it is highly likely and accepted by the majority that homosexuality is inherent, not chosen. Lets move away from the tent dwelling, scared, superstitious mentality of our forefathers and accept our fellow humans without judging them based on where they enjoy putting their genitals, as long as they harm no one in doing so.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

The only case in which the bible specifically indicates that homosexuality is bad (never actually calling it a sin) is in Leviticus. Unfortunately for most Christians, Leviticus condemns everything from sexual relations with women during their period to eating shrimp. If a Christian sect labels homosexuality a sin, it must also condemn a number of every-day things that noone considers evil at all.Now, of course, not all Christians even believe homosexuality is a sin, so it all bears on what religious sect you adhere to (if any).I, personally, am gay and a pagan. As far as my gods are concerned my behavior is absolutely acceptable.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

It sure isn't considered a sin in MY Episcopal church in Tucson. Try reading the Bible. There's only 6 verses, 2 in Leviticus, 2 in Deuteronomy, 1 in Romans, and 1 in Genesis. So if you'd like to condemn me for being gay, be sure to condemn yourself under the exact same book for wearing garments with two kinds of fibers, eating shell fish, not helping immigrants (legal and not), and on and on and ON. Jesus never mentioned it once - funny, you would have thought He'd have brought it up since you seem to think it's THE worst sin of all. Hmm. No, come to think of it, it seems to be hypocrisy He was upset about. Imagine that. Plus, the one recorded time He did meet a real, live homo was that little deal with the Centurion and sick boy -- his LOVER -- and Jesus didn't bat an eye, he just praised him for having great faith! I didn't choose my sexuality and neither did you. Get a life. Start acting like the Christ you say you follow. His love was always unconditional and absolute. Try it. It works wonders. If homosexuality bothers you that much, then might I suggest DON'T ENGAGE IN IT. Sort of like heterosexuality, for me.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: Yes

Couldn't agree more. I do not care for religion much any more, but that discussion is blown way out of proportion - look at church history - it has always been that way: If it helped bring some agenda further, it was made a big deal.And on the hypocrisy: I never understood, how you could call yourself a Christian (maybe even a "born again") and constantly violate the 10 commandments, yet keep on picking some little thing you interpreted into some bible text and make that your holy crusade. Don't kill, don't hate, notice the log that is in your own eye!
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

In addition to some great information and some powerful arguments on this page, I would like to take a minute and maybe move the argument in a different direction by addressing the Bible in a way most people don't look at. Whether this argument can be sustained or not, I hope it will at least provide enough insight to spark interest in researching more on the subject.That said, I must ask was God considered holy during the time the Bible was written? If you answered yes, you would be wrong. The word holy literally translated to "getting on your hands and knees and praying to God." Priests were holy. The laity could be holy. Jesus was holy. But God was not. But as you can see, the meaning of the word shifted over time and the definition of holy changes from "one who prays" to "omnipotent" With the knowledge that language changes over time, we must also note that the term homosexuality was not coined until the late 19th century, and sexuality was less clearly defined during that time. In many greek and roman cultures during that period, men had intercourse with both men and women. While men had sex with women for pleasure at times, it was mostly for the purpose of procreation. If they wanted to have sexual release without a child, they often turned to boys or other men. By technicality, homosexuality cannot be considered a sin because no equivalent existed during that period. But that's not what I'm arguing.I think the interpretations of the Bible can be looked at differently when one puts into perspective the terminology and the culture mentioned above. "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." The common interpretation is sex with other men is bad. My interpretation is that the writer of Leviticus was addressing the culture saying that it is morally wrong, an abomination, to sleep with men on the side when you are dating or married to a woman. In simpler terms, don't be promiscuous. Mistranslations can certainly be seen when the word homosexual is directly used in your copy of the Bible as with the Living Bible and New Living Translation.If you look at the New Testament homosexual references in Timothy, Romans, and Corinthians you can also apply the argument of the culture of promiscuity versus the act. I hope this helps clarify how I feel and can be added as a tool to others who find it useful.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Two examples of same-sex love in the Bible are David and Jonathan, and Ruth and Naomi. "Whither thou goest will I go" is a popular Bible quote used frequently at weddings. It is a promise to remain forever true and steadfast with the beloved. But it was said between Ruth and Naomi. They were clearly a devoted couple.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: should homosexuality be considered a sin

well, according to the bible homosexuality is considered a sin but I'm not a Christian so i don't care what the bible says. Scientist have also concluded that its a mental disorder. In my opinion all love is sickening and pointless, so if homosexuals want to wast there time on lust, then they have the same mental process as heterosexuals. I think that in manga yaoi is funny but yuri is weird so i probably feel the same way about homosexuality in real life.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Why on earth would it be? Leviticus? Can you find Leviticus in the Bible if your life depended on it? Christians, I talking to YOU. Do you even know which versus even remotely pertain to homosexuality? Do you bother to even look at the original languages they were written in? Do you realize that Bibles that use the word "homosexual" are not accurate, because the word wasn't even invented until the 1890's in Germany, and didn't become part of the English language until well into the 1950's? What, God sent a revision to the editor? Are you nuts? The original language in Leviticus, by the way, is "men who are soft." You are on VERY shaky ground when trying to make this entire argument, based on original language in the Bible.Did you know that Jesus himself never said one word about homosexuality? Oh, wait, yes he did, too. Remember the story about the Centurian? No?The one recorded instance in the entire Bible where Jesus ever encountered a gay person was the Centurian story. A Roman soldier - the Centurian - calls Jesus in a crowd and asks him to heal his ill slave - specifically referring to him as his male, sex slave, his lover. (Check the original language.) Jesus' response isn't one of revulsion, but utter praise! When the Centurian says that it is not necessary for Jesus to travel to the lover to heal him, that the lover was healed simply because Jesus said he was healed, caused Jesus to exclaim to the crowd, "I have not seen this kind of faith in all of Israel!" Yes, praise for a homosexual's faith, not condemnation of who he was. Explain that.Are you telling me you are more holly than Jesus himself? If He did not judge us, why do you?And speaking of which, how come you never condemn wealth? Jesus certainly did. A third of all the words in the New Testament, and 2/3 of the words of Jesus, specifically say that the wealthy have great problems getting into heaven because their wealth keeps them from God. Yet you never, ever hear evangelicals mention that? Why? Too busy raising money and driving Mercedes?Why this fascination with homosexuality when Christ tells you take care of the poor, care for the widowed and defenseless, and stop judging? Look at the countless times he lambastes the pious religious peoples in Israel. Are you listening? He's speaking to you - I'd suggest you stop worrying about gay people and start worrying about your own plight. There are too many homeless, too many abused, too many isolated and defenseless people who go without one shred of help in this country. THOSE are the concerns of Jesus, not gay people.I dare any of you to tell me that is not the "gospel truth."
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

As I know, the God always remind us to live happily and harmoniously with our spouses and the people around us. Therefore, it is not a sin if both homosexual couple can live harmoniously, parallel to what God has reminded us.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

Why should we commit our lives to living by an ancient book? A man-made book for all we know could be fake? Yet we worship it like its what all life should go byThere is so much sin in the world that by tackling it is impossible, not only do people sin every day but they do it that much that it becomes normal to themDoes anyone eat shellfish? The bible says thats a sin (its somewhere in there, i should do research tbh)Why do religious people set their eyes on this one sin and commit their lives to making homosexuals lives hell?Don't give me some mumbo jumbo crap about it spreads aids cause guess what, heterosexual sex does that at the SAME RATE!Don't give me any crap about destroying marriage! How is it? Marriage to me, and should be to everyone, two people who love each other a lot wanting to spend the rest of their life together. So why cant homosexuals do that?So what if you think its disgusting, their not exactly coming round to your house and f*g on your dining table while you try to eat are they!?People say gays should be killed YET IT IS A SIN TO KILL!!!!!!!!! So you intern would be committing an even worse sin than the homosexual you murderBeing gay IS NOT A CHOICE! Why would you if, by doing so, you just end up being killed and criminalized?If everyone is made in Gods image then why hate gays? He must of 'created' them for a reason. To stop the population overflow perhaps?I don't even believe in God or the Bible but i respect those who do but not those who do and yet continue to attack gays with homophobic comments and abuseThere is nothing wrong with homosexuality, in the roman times it was seen as normal, Christianity changed that, why?Times are changing and so should you, sometime in the next few weeks the marriage equality law is being put forward in the United Kingdom.After this I will be able to marry the man I loveIs it not a sin to judge a man?And a sin to murder?A sin to attack someone?A Sin to eat shellfish? (sorry but I find this sin hilarious)If all of these are sins and we do these everyday (well maybe not murder) then why should homosexuality be targeted out and attacked?
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: No

If you do what you really feel that you have to do, it should not be a problem. While you know what you do and you have consciousness to decide then you should be happy with your life. All that make you happy should not be sin.
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: Yes

While I agree with eveything you say, You may want to rephrase your debate title to "Should homosexuality be a sin" or "is homosexuality wrong"; by asking "IS it a sin" the answer couldn't be anything but "Yes" (of course this also depends on what religion you are talking about) but "sin" is a figment of religion, not a figment of rational thought. And most religions have declared homosexual behavior as "sinful".
Debate: Should be homosexuality considered as a sin?
Side: Yes

I agree. I've changed it.