Debate: Can government create jobs and wealth?
Side: yes

Frankly your mis-characterization of all things American besides pure capitalist greed is quickly going from comically tragic to disturbingly unpatriotic.Where was all your anti-government anti-common worker rhetoric (minimum wage) when Bush was in office? I don't remember you on this site then. I'm trying to figure out if you are literally a crazy person who sees big bad government in the shadows, or if your a cynical right wing ideologue who understands Republican policy is directly responsible for current economics and so has to make up wild stories to convince yourself that liberals are evil demons who eat babies...At any rate.Unfortunately, the minority (anarcho-capitalists) are at the mercy of majority's incompetence (liberals and progressive conservatives).I want names and instances of this being the case. I'm under the impression that anarcho-capitalists have the same rights exactly as everyone else.If we are the government, what government agency do you work for? What is your title in this agency? What control do you have over government bureaucrats? To make sure that they are not being abusing the system by which they create. None.I vote, therefore I have a say in government. Government does not do anything that the people do not have over site over in one manner or another. What's more, this admin is a hundred times more transparent than the last one - again, where were you 2 years ago with this crazy talk?The point is, I don't have to work in a government agency in order to be a part of the US, which is a government of the world. Wrong, there is things such as self governance. Government only has a role in protecting fellow citizens, foreign invaders, property, and enforce contractsMhm, give that a try for three days. You are pro-capitalist economy. Economy is impossible outside of government. Outside of some sort of government, there is no agreed monetary value, no rules, no law. You would have to trade chickens for dental care and nothing is stopping bandits from stealing your chicken on the way there.What you want is all the stuff government provides, without responsibility for maintaining that government. It's like a kid wanting allowance but refusing to mow the lawn.Seriously, what school did you go to?The United States is a constitutional federal republic represented by a democracy.Yeah I know. It is a democracy like I said... wait what kind of economy do we have? Oh yeah, capitalism. I was describing the government + economy.Since there never has been a pure capitalist society, your point is moot. No it isn't. I can deduce that setting fire to a house, would burn down the house. Similarly I can deduce allowing pure capitalism in any type of government, would lead inevitably to all power held by a very select few, with 0 say for anyone else in how that power is used - which could be any number of things from fascism to feudalism - but it certainly would no longer be a democracy.As for the proceeding lines - you've gone utterly off topic. You are setting up a strawman. My argument with you is not one of socialism vs capitalism. It's democracy and capitalism with over site and social programs vs pure capitalism. I'm actual quite moderate - which is why you need to continuously set up these strawman arguments.No, you haven't cleared anything besides your inept knowledge of our government because you don't even know that the United States government is a constitutional federal republic represented by a democracyAgain, I was describing both economy and government. You are not separating government from a particular government's economic system. This isn't my misunderstanding, it is yours. For instance, minimum wage is the reason for unemployment. WHY? It is $7.50 per hour, which means that those who have skills under $7.50, they are automatically shifted out of employment and put on welfare.That's a ridiculous argument. There is no economic worth in hiring two people for 3.75 an hour instead of one for 7.50. Either way neither has economic means to add anything of value to the economy, or even buy the product they are making.No one could live on that wage, no one cannot raise children, it would create in essence, a cast of peasants. Again, very Unamerican of you. People deserve an honest days pay for an honest day's work. It is one of the many laws put in place directly after the great depression, and which lead to 30 years of prosperity and steady growth until people forgot and began again with the deregulation anti-common worker bs starting with Regan.Name a country without a minimum wage with a living standard above that of a third world country.