azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro choice

Do you think abortion is going to make people more responsible.Exactly where in my post did I write anything that sounded even remotely like this???I am not just out here throwing stuff because i want to. Hmm... didn't say anything about this either. =/I am here because i believe it is wrong.Always a great way to justify a position. =/Do you want to know how abortion came into effect?No. I don't care. Not even a little bit.But since you went through the trouble of telling me anyway... nope, still don't care. =/This is debating not about silly preferences.No, you're debating about your silly preferences. Not getting an abortion is your preference and you're debating about it, also it is silly. Therefore, you are debating about your silly preferences. If it was would it be a national controversy?Ah, you're right. There's no way something could be both stupid AND controversial...Would you say that to a District Attorney that he is childish because of what he believes in too?Would you say to a pregnant mother that she must keep her unwanted child because YOUR morality dictates it?Really, what's with the appeal to authority sayyad? Do you think I care what some hypothetical district attorney thinks? Do you think a district attorney can't be stupid?
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro life

You kept saying that abortion is right? Why don't you answer me if abortion makes people more responsible? You speak as if i am here throwing out stuff just like that. I am surprised that you even want to discuss abortion but yet you don't care. To me that is just childishness. How can a person argue about a topic and say they don't want to know about the rest? If i am silly about my preferences then how come you don't know anything about abortion? Who looks more silly? Me or you? You don't tell me my preference is silly when you can't even give a justification for your choice? Maybe you should come when we are debating and you will have to see how debating goes and why we law students choose our topics. Your opinions are based on arrogance or ignorance without any proof or evidence. Why don't you try becoming a District Attorney and if you can become one then judge them. Try answering my questions and then we can continue this debate because i don't have time to waste on any argument filled with arrogance. If you are so skillful in researching the field of abortion then do me a favor and respond to the following questions;When does life begins? Use a reference to support your claim.Does prostitution involves a woman's right to control her own body?What are the amount of women that undergoes repeat abortions?How many abortions results in death of the mother yearly?Why does the very people who say the government should stay out of their business are the very ones that wants the government to pay for the abortion especially if they are on welfare?If you say you don't care or you avoid these questions then you are clearly showing that your level of knowledge in this area is based on merely your opinions and not facts. If we law students would do what you just did in a debate we would be disqualified. Last night we concluded as debate on Hitler on whether he was innocent or not and which we agreed that he was innocent and came out on the wining end.
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro choice

When does life begins? Use a reference to support your claim.Doesn't matter.In cell culture life begins after the cells separate in mitosis.We're talking about when a foetus has independent thought and recognises that it is being killed. This is highly dubious if the foetus just barely started brain development, and barely has functioning organs.Does prostitution involves a woman's right to control her own body?Different topic.What are the amount of women that undergoes repeat abortions?Who cares? It's not your business. Should the number of feminist activists out there decide our choice to maintain womens' suffrage?How many abortions results in death of the mother yearly?You don't actually care about the mother, so why bring this up?It's more of a loaded question anyway because most medical procedures have a mortality rate, and are legal. Also women who undergo late-term abortion themselves are under increased risk of harm.Why does the very people who say the government should stay out of their business are the very ones that wants the government to pay for the abortion especially if they are on welfare?Welcome to universal healthcare, or attempts at it anyway.If we law students would do what you just did in a debate we would be disqualified. Last night we concluded as debate on Hitler on whether he was innocent or not and which we agreed that he was innocent and came out on the wining end.Being a good lawyer isn't about questing for the truth, it is about defending a conclusion in a convincing way. Your conclusion is that abortion is wrong, so you'll only care about that which supports your ability to persuade others.
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro life

It is interesting that you bring that up. So if the fetus does not recognize that it is being killed then should we kill the mentally retarded too or the people that are paralyzed because they cannot recognize the fact that they are being killed or because their organs are not working? If all the cells in our body had died then wouldn't the human body die too? Isn't a cell the formation of tissues then organs then to the body systems?It is funny that you say different topic when both are related to the point that it is questioned whether a woman has a right to control her own body or not. Why would it not be my business? If it wasn't any of our business then why do they make those record public. You want to know why? Because the public has a right to access those information. I have a feeling that you wouldn't be able to tell me and i also think you wouldn't be able to tell me about the number of deaths in abortion cases. Again you are retreating from my questions and giving opinions rather than facts. I am puzzled by your response on the government. I need a fact and again not opinion. Well my goal is to become a criminal state lawyer so for your information we fight for the truth and we do not make opinions without facts because any court of law would take that into account against us. And again persuasion comes from a strong argument backed up by facts not opinions or refusing to say you don't care or refuse to answer to an argument because if you were in a debate the judges would already sanctioned and scolded you for that.
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro life

When you say that term neither you are portraying to me that either you are confused or you are not sure which side to take. How can you be neither when everything you said so far has supported pro abortion? If there were two teams and each of these teams were either pro life or pro abortion, which one would you choose? Obviously, there is no way that you can say neither, so which team will you choose? When people say pro choice they are referring to a woman's right to have an abortion. Do some research on the topic please. You words tells a lot about you and to be very honest with you that is why my response is coming so low graded to you because expect to get what you portray. Well i do not care what you say because like i said am the creator of this debate and you are the person challenging me so to me it means less. You seem to forget that you are debunking without facts so if i am liar good for me. Again i will not have you calling me names and if you do not stop then i will restrain you from posting any arguments in relation to my debates because name calling is childishness to me and the same goes for comparing. Really? I think your problem is you love to judge and if you continue doing that then again i will restrain you from debate and then we will see who is the debater and the respondent. Let us keep it to a professional level please. By doing this you are making both of us look like two children which we are not. My conclusion is drawn from facts which i have demonstrated in my arguments but you point to one part where you made reference to facts? Did you see my entire argument was based on fallacy? Because if you said so then i think you are jumping to an inconsistent conclusion. And again i do not care what you call me because like i said i have already proved myself to a panel of judges. You can say all you want but it wouldn't affect me but lets just keep it as a debate on a professional level.
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro life

I will ban you because you are over stepping your limits not because i care because you don't go around judging people and calling them names like you do. If you keep out of that then perhaps our debate will be good. I create the rules when i create my debates and if you question whether it is my debate or not then you are pushing me to show you whose court the ball is in.In an argument the term pro choice refers to the killing of the fetus. Change it all you want but you will never be able to change the true meaning of the word. Pro Choice is another way of saying pro abortion. The question here is to kill or not to kill the fetus so i do not know what is the goal of your question? I want an answer not a meaningless question. Rape and Arson is in no way to compare to this topic because they do not even involve the taking of a human life and also both are morally wrong as in abortion where one side is considered morally wrong.Are you in your right state of mind, then do me a favor and stop debating about abortion if you are not referring to it. Pro choice refers to the term supporting abortion.I am not going to go further debating you. You are an immature idiot filled with nonsense. There is no point in even debating you. Maybe you should go back to junior high school and grow up. You have proved to me what stupidity is like so goodbye! And by the way it is not the length of the argument but the quality of the argument.
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro life

My third grade writing skills are meant for people who can't understand fourth grade writing and reading skills.
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro choice

Look at how I write, then look at how you write. Feel free to step it up a notch ;)
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro life

I already did that is why i could. You made improvements in your last few arguments but other than that take a look at the rebuttals where you kept saying do not care. Do you know how childish that sounded?
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro life

Look at what you said that started this and tell me if this was appropriate to begin an argument.Just...grow up.Perhaps you are against abortion and it isn't a good thing for you, but it's just childish to demand that everyone conforms to your silly preferences.
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro life

Like i said i would i banned you. Learn to act professional next time and then we will get along. Don't act like a child. I have no time for your worthless arguments. You are no way as compared to a challenge for me and you yourself told me i can be a great debater so you yourself proved your statements to be a liar.
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro life

Oh and one more thing since you are on a debating website then maybe you should read up on the rules of debating especially about the part that said if you don't have facts to support your claims then what it the purpose of that debate. And as i said to my opposing team in the last face to face debate which lasted for 5 hours in two weeks and was based on abortion, "DON'T TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK BECAUSE WHAT YOU THINK MIGHT BE DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE FACTS PORTRAY."
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro choice

Look up the terms;-debunking-non-sequiter-appeal to emotion-appeal to authorityYou'll understand your fallacies in time... I hope. =/
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro life

Use your head for once and try to figure out the whole purpose of my argument.Who says you can't you use appeal to emtion or authority in debating? I would like to say who said that? And who says you also can't use different topics if they are similar in the point you are trying to make?
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro choice

Use your head for once and try to figure out the whole purpose of my argument.Who says you can't you use appeal to emtion or authority in debating?Perhaps YOU need to use your head. Go re-read my comment and tell me exactly where I said you cannot use appeal to emotion/authority.You can't, because I didn't. You're free to use them at your discretion. It's widely known that these are logical FALLACIES and can prove nothing but the ignorance of the person using them, but feel free to express this side of yourself through them anyway... =/"And who says you also can't use different topics if they are similar in the point you are trying to make?"Again, nobody has said this....You do understand the difference between things that are similar and things that are related, don't you? ;)
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro choice

"Do you think abortion is going to make people more responsible."You're saying that like having a child it their punishment for being irresponsible, let me tell you, its not just a punishment for the terrible parents but also the unwanted and unloved child you forced them to have.
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro life

Maybe you should check the statistics to show how many women are having repeat abortions. Do you think that the unborn should pay for the mistakes of it's mother? Most women according to statistics are having repeat abortions. I was born out of child pregnancy. My mother regardless of being challenged with poverty and unpreparedness brought me up. Today i am a student in pre law with a G.P.A of 4.0 and straight A student. Do you think that bringing me up made her a responsible woman or abortion?Furthermore, for every mistake there is a punishment. Didn't parents punished you for a mistake, don't the laws punish you for a mistake, don't your job punish you for a mistake?Why? Before consensual unprotected sex, every woman have a choice to protect themselves and is fully aware of the consequences of their actions. So why should they claim they are unprepared after learning they are pregnant?
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro choice

Abortion is going to happen. Its been going on forever. People that are against it do so for moral reasons. I completely understand, but you are failing to realize that it will happen regardless of the legality of the procedure and in some cases is completely warranted. For example, what if your 14 year old daughter is raped and becomes pregnant. Does that not constitute a valid reason for the termination of a pregnancy. What if you are going to give birth to a child with a severe birth defect or extreme retardation. If it wasn't for new advances in medicine these people would never survive anyway, so how is it any different? It sounds harsh and heartless but it is reality none the less. Its like people that are against stem cell research because some of the stem cells come from aborted fetuses. Ok, you object on moral grounds, I get it but what if you're paralyzed and the researchers say a dead baby will help you walk again are you really going to tell me that you're not going to give the green light. The child was aborted regardless of what decision you made, at least let the horrible process have some good that comes out of it.
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro life

I was waiting for someone to bring up this point.While some women may still have abortions, the abortion rate will definitely decrease by; it is my guess about 90% or even more. How many people would commit murder if it was legal, do you think? Obviously making something illegal is always a deterrent for a large amount of people.That people will do it anyway is no argument to legalize something heinous. By the same token, should we legalize rape now so that no rapist will have to do it in secret, or because he would do it otherwise anyway?Why should we abort a child because of mental retardation etc? In the same way should we kill a person because they are mentally ill?When you talk about horrible process; what is more horrible being half awake whilst doctors are ripping your fetus out of you are giving birth to a life? What if a woman dies from abortion? You are talking as if carrying a pregnancy is more traumatic than doing an abortion. We are against abortion because we are talking about a life and as one professional once said it seems that those who supports abortion are the ones that are already born.If a person is raped then give the baby up for adoption. There are other choices available. Don't make it seem as if abortion is the only way out.
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro choice

Why should a woman have to carry the child of her attacker? I'm not saying I agree with abortion, what I'm saying is that people have the right to make that decision on their own. I don't think you or anybody else has the right to tell a woman what she can do with her own body. She has to live with the guilt of what she has done. If she want's to carry that burden then so be it.
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro life

Really? So how come when a person commits suicide the state has every right to stop that person from doing it? Why don't you answer that then?Why do you keep saying her body. The fetus is inside her body but not her body. The fetus has a completely different DNA and blood type than the mother and if the blood type of the fetus comes in contact with the blood type of the mother it can be fatal.
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro choice

Really? So how come when a person commits suicide the state has every right to stop that person from doing it? Why don't you answer that then?It's because a bunch of angry and sad victims of a suicide decided to give government that right. It has no bearing on a person's autonomy, however.Why do you keep saying her body. The fetus is inside her body but not her body. The fetus has a completely different DNA and blood type than the mother and if the blood type of the fetus comes in contact with the blood type of the mother it can be fatal.Parasites, bacteria, and protists all have different DNA from us but still reside within us. We have the final say over their existence because they reside in our bodies.
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro life

Wrong. It is because of the people living in this land who saw it as being wrong gave government that right and they also gave government the right to make abortion illegal until the Supreme Court decided that the state had no right to intervene and made their decision based on a lie. I do not think the Court had the authority to make that decsion becasue it was the majority of people who conferred that right upon the state and not the Court.How can you compare a fetus DNA with a parasite DNA? Are parasites or bacterias from the human race? I never know that the human race can also be a parasite? Can it? The DNA of a fetus is fromed from the Chromosomes of the mother and father which posess a different but unique DNA. Oh and by the way does parasites and bacterias has a unique but different blood type also?
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro choice

how come when a person commits suicide the state has every right to stop that person from doing it?cite 1 state or federal law.do you mean assisted suicide? - because that would be a different matter.
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro life

I was referring to when as person is at risk of committing suicide. Sorry for the mistake.
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro choice

Hells no. If a woman wants to rid her body of a bunch of extra cells (and thats all a fetus is) then let her. Besides, we could use the fetus for its stem cells.
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro life

A fetus is not just a bunch of extra cells, you moron.......
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro choice

"Extra Bunch of Cells?"Maybe not to the same extent as, say, scraping the inside of your cheek or scratching a layer of epidermis with your fingernails, but they lack any human fetus or vertebrae features until well into 3 months of development. Otherwise, what you'd see under a microscope really would just be unremarkable "cell" reproduction. I'm sure what Hollow more accurately meant to say was "blastocyst," which is really just a scientific term for the pre-fetus stage of conception in which the developing embryo really IS just a clump of cells that begin reproducing after the fertilized ovum has attached itself to the uteran wall. For the technical definition, see:Blastocyst: A thin-walled hollow structure in early embryonic development that contains a cluster of cells called the inner cell mass from which the embryo arises. The outer layer of cells gives rise to the placenta and other supporting tissues needed for fetal development within the uterus while the inner cell mass cells gives rise to the tissues of the body.(http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=18258) And if you're confused by what an "embryo" is:A human embryo is a discrete entity that has arisen from either: the first mitotic division when fertilization of a human oocyte by a human sperm is complete or any other process that initiates organized development of a biological entity with a human nuclear genome or altered human nuclear genome that has the potential to develop up to, or beyond, the stage at which the primitive streak appears, and has not yet reached 8 weeks of development since the first mitotic division.(http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17178746?ordinalpos=5&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum)
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro choice

Yes it is. It's organs, which is a bunch of tissue. Tissue is made of a bunch of cells. He probably has a higher level of intelligence then you.
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro life

Extra bunch of cells......what sort of moronic jack ass are you?!
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro choice

Can you hug a fetus without damaging it? Can you feed it food? Water? No.An acorn isn't a tree and an egg isn't a chicken. The government can NOT take over someones body and tell them if they can have a baby or not. This is absurd.
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro life

Well the fetus feeds through it's mother. An egg is not a developing human being neither does it possess life. The fetus cannot be hugged i agree but why then when you go to a doctor they normally detect the heartbeat of the unborn to check whether it is alive or not. Does the heartbeat not indicates the presence of life? Does the fetus not have a separate DNA and blood type? Does the fetus not have a growing human body?
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro choice

I know the way I would state my opinions would not prove helpful towards this discussion, so here is a quote, in place, by respected novelist/philosopher Ayn Rand. I find that this quote, in the end, sums up my opinions on this matter."An embryo has no rights. Rights do not pertain to a potential, only to an actual being. A child cannot acquire any rights until it is born. The living take precedence over the not-yet-living (or the unborn). Abortion is a moral right—which should be left to the sole discretion of the woman involved; morally, nothing other than her wish in the matter is to be considered. Who can conceivably have the right to dictate to her what disposition she is to make of the functions of her own body?"
Debate: Should abortion be made illegal?
Side: pro life

Any Rand was a novelist, not a doctor or a scientist. He had knowledge of books not medical facts or practicals.