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Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

No it would take a alliance of countries to beat them.If China sent out a draft they could have 300,000,000 troops.If America sent out a draft we could have 50,000,000 troops. 1/6 of China's army.America would put up a big fight but we would eventually get overwelmed.India could take China by themselfs. If India went into total war they could have 200,000,000 troops. 2/3 of Chinas army.But the Chinese have better warfare & most of the Indians are Hindu pacifists.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

1) Troop numbers don't count for much when you can't properly arm them2) How can the US get overwhelmed when it has complete air and navel superiority? The entire war would be fought in China3) Comes down to production, purchasing power and technology 3/3 for the US (furthermore the US has a stronger army,navy and air force then China, do some research anywhere as I don't feel like making this 1000 words)4) India could not take China as numbers aren't all that count, China is technologically superior to India and therefore would win a 1v1 war5) People who could beat China in a war: USA, EU and Russia
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

If China was to leave the world tomorrow.We would all be skrewed.They don't make weapons, but their interests in buying warships, subs, and warfare technology makes a point: Its not going to invent anything drastic to fight back, its going to BUY them.Saying "can any country defeat China" implies a 1 on 1 battle.I say no.Yes, US has a major task force and army that are more advanced, but it won't wage war against China because of their massive economic dependence on China.In that retrospect, China does not need to invade US, it merely has to call in the debt and collect it's paycheck of (oh how much was it?) 772 BILLION from the US and put them into a depression immediately.US is WAY too economically fragile at the moment to deal any major wars against such drainers as China.If they invaded, they wouldn't last more than a year in battle before needing to retreat. Not out of bullets, out of money.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: It will never happen

I agree on some but not much. First off, the U.S does not rely on china as much as you imply. Second, if we went to war against china we would not have to give them there money back. That 772 BILLION dollars would be ours and china would not get it back. Third off, if anything, the US has set a world record by being the number one weapon buyer in the world and its china who is so economically challenged. Last but not least, china and the USA would never go to war because that would result in Mutually Assured Destruction. Wars between first world countries don't exist anymore because of M.A.D.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

China isnt a first world country. It's a second world country by definition. NATO/West is 1st world, Soviet Pact/Commie is 2nd. Leftovers are 3rd.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

Yeah, right, dude. Go invade any nations that you owed them money, so you naively thought you do not have to pay them back, IF (only under the circumstance) you win. Come on, dude, grow up. Do not talk like a moron or kid when facing in reality. China can hit you really hard before you declare war with them. The US is not that powerful as you think (not invincible or Alienate country with fancy weapons) or even the Hollywood movies the Americans filmed. To wage a war, it is not like playing video games. You lose, you click start again, pretend nothing happen and still enjoy playing until you claim your victory. You just do not get the picture that you thought China is so easy to be defeated? It is madness to have such crazy far-fetched excuse that Iraq gained medals less in Olympic games under Saddam Hussein ruled, after the US has invaded Iraq, Iraq gained more medals than before.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

But what would ultimately happen if China asked for their money back? Nothing... The U.S. can't pay that money back and the money will grow year by year... it has already grown to 1.3 trillion U.S. dollars. that is about what the us earns as a country after a whole year...
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

So what if the US owes anyone money? We will NEVER pay it back if they threaten us. We have the most technologically advanced Air Force and Navy in the world, not to mention some of the best special forces. What is china going to do, invade us? Debt and the idea of economically destroying a country is an invalid argument.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

1) China has nukes and plenty of them. Would any country want to risk their citizens being nuked even if they can score a big victory by nuking Shanghai and Beijing on Day 1? The pacifists will also wail. 2)You would never in reality be able to build such a broad coalition including US Russia India+Pakistan NATO+Israel, Japan+North Korea, Mongolia, with Uyghurs and Tibetans taking an armed uprising. 3) You cannot actually conquer the country the way the US did in Iraq. China is just too freaking big with an even bigger population. Again if China loses it vast non-Han territories such as Tibet and Uyghur territories, then you may stand a chance to corner them. you then can split up the country just as Germany was divided into english, french, american and russian zones immediately after WWII. Except you would probably need way more than four divisions.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: It will never happen

1) Yes; 2) agreed; 3) And just how long did it take the U.S. AND her allies to conquer Iraq--a country of few numbers by comparison and at what ridiculous cost?While I would never want to be under the thumb of China, being under the thumb of the U.S. ain't all that attractive any more either. Unfortunately, the U.S. and her allies are completely out of touch with reality and without a doubt have lost any edge they had. Moreover, any country who could be successfully attacked by a wee bunch of box cutter wielding Middle Eastern "gentlemen" bypassing every possible fail safe system the U.S. put together at a cost in the trillions does not exactly breed confidence. The problem with the U.S. and its people, alas, is the belief that it is better than anyone else--so convinced of it are they that the end up underestimating the enemy. Ooooooh, big mistake. They give short shrift to any of the Orientals at their own peril.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

Russia vs China? If no nukes used..maybe might win more battles than China but would lose a lot of land to China, particularly the Far East. Russia doesn't have enough people to hold down their territory. Their equipment is just as old as China's. I'll come down to if the Russians can hold on to their territory on advancing PLA troops. Russian population is only 125 million vs China's 1.3 billion. South Korea vs China? No ChanceJapan vs China? No Chance anymore! They have no resource and will eventually surrender.Vietnam vs China? No Chance.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

Your statement, Japan vs China, South Korea vs China, No Chance; is fatally flawed. Both Japan and South Korea are allies of the west and in attacking either China is taking on the world. A war you couldn't win. Others have tried, namely Hitler and Napoleon. History shows the result.As far as Russia and Vietnam go, Russia is not the enemy of old and would probably receive support from the west. Vietnam at this point in time is coming under the mantle of western protection.Finally the PLA may be the biggest army in the world but they are not battle hardened. The army's of the west have been doing the real thing for over a decade. The PLA's only claim to fame is the taking over of Tibet and the Tienanmen Square massacre. In the 80's you fought a war with Vietnam and were soundly beaten. I say to you "Remember Thermopylae".
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

it is impossible because it has the biggest armyit is very secret country dosent reveal its special weaponsit has its own technologyamerica can give large blow to itbut china cannot take it simply it'll reply double of itit has never been ruled by others it is independent from startit is in their gene to produce brave soldiers
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

China has planned for war with the USA for the last 20 years. They have mini nukes in every china town in the USA. One mini nuke in every major city. On command they will all be detonated in predetermined locations, eliminating 2/3 of US infrastructure in minutes. USA will surrender after the first 70 million American deaths.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

china is a very secret country where as U.S.A scream out every weapon they've got
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

You obviously seem to know a lot about Area 51....................
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

well at least china doesn't use japan as a test field...............................
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

We tested the atomic bombs in our own country before we used them on Japan to end the war.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

"We tested the atomic bombs in our own country before we used them on Japan to end the war."How did you discover the death count of the bomb when you tested it in America?
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

Your very wrong, China parades it's military power. The U.S. has not and will not ever feel the need to parade it's military might. Unless you count the Great White Fleet in the early 1900's by Theodore Roosevelt. The only occasional military boast the U.S. does is fly Fighter Jets or Helicopters over American Sporting events. The U.S. has the world's largest supply of Helicopters, Naval Ships, Fighter Jets, 2nd in Tanks, Satellite Array's, Nuclear Warheads and it has the largest alliance. China would not stand a chance. Not only that if it wasn't for the U.S. involvement in WWII, China would be speaking Japanese right now. You also forget the U.S. has drone aircrafts, drone vehicles, drone weapons, and eventually drone soldiers. The U.S. is far more extensively technilogically advanced then China. Ofcourse China has 2 million active soldiers, where as America as 1 million, China can draft another 2 Million as America can draft another million. But, there would be no need for footsoldier assualt. It would all be based on technology, and America would definately win that war.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

"Your very wrong, China parades it's military power. The U.S. has not and will not ever feel the need to parade it's military might."Destroying two cities just to boast nuclear technology certainly comes under "parading military might" in my terms." The only occasional military boast the U.S. does is fly Fighter Jets or Helicopters over American Sporting events."You are so naive it's unbelievable."The U.S. has the world's largest supply of Helicopters, Naval Ships, Fighter Jets, 2nd in Tanks, Satellite Array's, Nuclear Warheads and it has the largest alliance. "It also has the larger debt and the largest people. And look who China is next door to, India, Japan and Russia, no doubt these country's would love to step in and help the fastest growing economic power against a country that's to war with them in the past." Not only that if it wasn't for the U.S. involvement in WWII, China would be speaking Japanese right now. "Pure ignorance and the clear signs of a conditioned upbringing."China would not stand a chance."You clearlty have never seen any form of world statistic, China has nearly 1/3 of the global population, include their allies as well and USA wouldn't stand a chance."You also forget the U.S. has drone aircrafts, drone vehicles, drone weapons, and eventually drone soldiers. The U.S. is far more extensively technilogically advanced then China. "Who makes the components which construct most of these robotics? Oh wait, China does."Ofcourse China has 2 million active soldiers, where as America as 1 million, China can draft another 2 Million as America can draft another million. But, there would be no need for footsoldier assualt. It would all be based on technology, and America would definately win that war."You follow the assumption that America would be controlling the tempo, timing and method of the war. Suppose China just used several of the battleships to transport their soldiers to America? or what if China just stopped supplying you with products? yes they would lose a lot of their economy but then you'ld lose a lot of your industry.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

and which bogus conspiracy theory/straight up lie Internet site did you get that from?
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

All you need is basic knowledge of history to come to that conclusion.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

LOL is all that need be said. everything you "think" u know couldnt be more wrong. we only let out things weve researched 20 years ago,,the most recent things popping up are sattelite microvave beams that would stop a missle before it gets 100 ft off the ground,,that would fry chinese ships and planes instantly. thats just 1 thing and that research was done 10 years ago,,were only now asking for approval of its full scale use which well use either way,, you have no idea what weve got now ;),,,,,now on the other hand china secret?? the only secrets they have is that their food is really their 3rd born children and pets..they have miniscule technology still using wwII weaponry.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

first no country would just nuke a chinese city it causes to much public criticism if you were to nuke lets say beijing thats more the n15 million civilians dead so they wouldnt nuke a city just stratigic military positions..........a fact is in about 10 more years china will have enough trade with outher countries to suppport itself without the U.S. ....while the current things imported from china in the U.S is about 70 percent......meaning even if U.S. tries to trade with other countries it will not matter if china stops sales the U.S. economy will do dwn wayyy down..... no country in the world can occupy china its just to much land and ppl the U.S. might be able to hold it for a year or 2 tops the chinese r stubborn ppl they will resort to guriella warfarechina is spending way more then it ways it is on the military roughtly about a few billion more plus with technology sent dwn to us from our friendly neighbors the russians our technology is almost there to the U.S. just not as much of it lolchina has invented a new land based missile nickname the aircraft carrier sinker the missle was tested and is operational........the U.S. currently has no way of stopping the missileyou dumb americans think that all these countries will team up with you while in truth not many countries will........india and china have become very gudpartners and everyone knows the sino russian alliance and trade has been great for the last 20 years......did i mention the russians dont like the U.S.....so in the end the only countries teaming up with the U.s. would be the U.K. canada and maybe one other country while russia is sure to back china wanting a stab at the U.S. the middle east would also be on our side as well as korea.....india remains undecided if india does decide to attack the chinese can handle them with a ground force of over 300 mil and india being rite nxt to china would mean transportation is not much of a issue...the middle eastern countries would also attack india if it came dwn to it...........and if you wanna talk about a nuke battle im pretty sure russia has thousands of nukes more then the U.S..........................The event of a third world war is unlikely the world is not stupid countries know that nuclear war would end in death to all no one wins................the most likely start of a ww3 is not china but the middle east
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

"a fact is in about 10 more years china will have enough trade with outher countries to suppport itself without the U.S."- nope. The United States has the largest economy in the world. Even with immense growth over the next ten years the Chinese would still need to trade with the US to be productive."china is spending way more then it ways it is on the military roughtly about a few billion more"- the United States currently spends almost 7 times what the Chinese spend on their military."our technology is almost there to the U.S."- its not even close."china has invented a new land based missile nickname the aircraft carrier sinker"- what about the American submarines that will blockade China? One thing is for sure: it will be easy to destroy China's only aircraft carrier."you dumb americans think that all these countries will team up with you while in truth not many countries will"- actually, more countries will probably side with the United States than China. You see, there is this little thing called NATO, where if one member country is attacked all 27 other countries in the organization declare war on the attacking nation. The United States is a member. And you call Americans dumb?"india and china have become very gudpartners"- India hates China. US relations to India was said to have slightly worsened when President Obama stated that he would like to increase relations to China."everyone knows the sino russian alliance and trade has been great for the last 20 years"- Russia really has no choice but to stay neutral or be on the side of the United States. It would lose almost every trade partner if it decides to side with China. Since NATO members are its main trade partners it really has no choice but to not side with China."the middle east would also be on our side"- Turkey is a NATO member, the United States is the main trading partner of Saudi Arabia, Israel is a very good ally of the United States, and Iran would definitely be on your side but the other countries could easily counter its attacks."as well as korea"- South Korea is much stronger than North Korea and it is also an extremely good ally of the United States."if you wanna talk about a nuke battle im pretty sure russia has thousands of nukes more then the U.S."- each country has enough nukes to destroy the world a few times over.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

well put!!!! and the DF-21 is nothing more then a larger copy of the French Exo-set missile. The U.K. found this neat little toy called a 6-barrel gatling gun of 25-mm that puts out about 4k rounds a min and eats missile that cruise at mach-3 in about a 2 second burst. Plus you always have the b-2 that would be days in advance of any fleet looking for the platforms to launch said missile thats why china is trying to make it fired by a submarine but first they have to make the sub. so its still at the least a decade off. and the only other countries that could hope to invade are India,Russia, and Japan yes Japan!!! They are the third largest economy now and the 1945 armastice was repealed a few years back allowing Japan to rebuild their military. so i think asia is going to become quite the flash-point and powder keg in the coming decades
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

You have the nerve to insult Americans over an internet board. Such a cowardly little man you are.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

My view:It's almost impossible. I've read the recent data that by 2020, China will overpower the US military. I forgot where I read it, but this one may help you guys:http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20110509205053AAlQnto
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

At this moment in time, I don't see how it is possible for anyone to defeat and invade china. Besides the fact that they have the biggest population, Chinese are very patriotic people, their military spending is increasing without worrying about having debts, both military and non-military technology is increasing rapidly due to stealing of foreign technology. China's relations with Russia also improved greatly and they see one another as allies against a common enemy: USA. Prior to the 90's, there were over 1,000,000 troops on both sides of the border between Russia (Soviet Union) and China. However, today Russia and China have military maneuvers together. Just last week, a pipeline was built that brings oil from Russia to China with two more pipelines planned in the near future. Furthermore, they share military technology and thus decreasing military spending which in return could be used on expanding the economy of both countries.Although the quality of military technology does matter, it definitely is no guarantee that you could win a war. There is no better example of that than Vietnam, Afghanistan (Both US and Russia), Iraq.............One way that for example that countries such as China or India could win a war would be to have 30-40 million of their fellow countrymen to simply surrender to the US/Russia/UK or anyone with a mighty military and simply say "I surrender!" What are you going to do? Kill 40 million? No. Feed 40 million? No...what options are left?..........For those who think that China could not survive without the trade with the US forgets to realize that there is the other 99% of the countries with which China can trade. They are already doing that by increasing trade in Africa, Europe, Central & South America. For example: US company offers a product for $100, but China offers the same product for $50...it might not be same quality, but penny saved is a penny earned.China should not be underestimated. For me personally, I realized that something is just not right when the biggest capitalist country (USA) started to owe money (around $2 trillion currently) to the biggest communist country (China).The only solution that I see this to be resolved is to bring back jobs to US citizens, stop being a world police, decrease military spending by a large percentage and use that money for economic purposes...oh, and make lobbying illegal so that some big corporations cannot decide our foreign policy......