azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

Well I certainly don't want to live there ill look up their crime stats but it doesn't sound safe
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Uh, totally!

Ya you should look it up. It'll just go another step to proving your opinion wrong with actual facts.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

While we're on the same side here, I feel I have to point out you're a little mistaken here. No one in Canada is allowed to possess a firearm with the exceptions of the police, government, hunters and so on. We also happen to be extremely safe, safer than the US I'd say. Just because we don't have immediate access to guns doesn't make us unsafe in this case, as we're under no real threat at all.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

From what I understand Canada is a little different than the US it has a friendlier atmosphere so there is less violent crime. In the US if you don't Cary your taken a risk trust me it a'nt all rainbows and kittens down here
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

Yes, Mexico hes been ranked by the UN as the second most dangerous country right after India!
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

My point exactly. Of course I was being sarcastic but thanks for clearing that up so the liberals didn't get lost
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

the bill of rights allows us to "bear arms" and therefore the government cannot ban gun sales. if anybody thinks so then they obviously did not even so much as go to their history class
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

more robberies need to end this way http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B9z331amWAA
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

"A free people ought to be armed." - George WashingtonDemocrats need to stop doing this.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Uh, totally!

He had wooden teeth and believed in slavery. Should we keep those ideas too? Stop looking too 1776 for your advice.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

Him having wooden teeth doesn't disqualify people being armed.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Uh, totally!

Notice you left out the slavery part. Very few ideas from 1776 still hold validity today. I bet almost nothing you do or feel on a daily basis reflects those values. You only use them when it serves your flawed argument.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

Back then the idea of a free market and economic choice held validity, simply stating that some of those ideas are not longer useful does not make any argument to support an idea from that time period to be invalid. It would be like claiming that none of Plato's or Socrates' logic has any validity now because they believed in slavery (had it at the time)Now if you would like to present an actual argument about gun control besides "that guy has wooden teeth and slaves" please go ahead and do so.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Uh, totally!

First of all. Maybe you do live like 1776 because you're boring and take yourself too seriously. You presented a sentence uttered by a man who owned other men as an argument for gun ownership, not me. I would never use anecdotal quotes from ghosts as my arguments, you sir are the one who has done this. I don't think it's irrational to think that getting your gun laws from a time when guns were muskets is naive. If George Washington were here to see the guns we have now he'd swallow his wooden teeth and shit them out for his slave too clean up.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

I quoted someone on gun ownership, NOT slavery, gun ownership is not related to slavery so his position on slavery is meaningless.Because guns became more high-tech? Weaponry becoming more advanced is not grounds to ban it and take it away. Controlling guns is not being anti-gun, its just centralizing gun power, so instead of citizens and the government being able to defend themselves, only the government can. At this point the citizens are now dependent on their government for protection and are also at the states absolute mercy considering the people are completely disarmed.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Uh, totally!

Yah and his views on gun ownership are as irrelevant as his views on slavery. You are the one that presented them as an argument. I pointed out how stupid that was. And you don't think there is a difference between owning a musket and an assault rifle? We are at the governments whim regardless. You really think because you have a gun, you'd have a chance. They control water, electricity, and they have more guns then you and all your militia friends could every jerk off too. It's probably fun to play commando in your head like one day you'll fight off Obama and his evil henchman. But that's just paranoid delusion. In the meantime real people are dying for your fantasy.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

Stand a chance against the US Marine Corp.? No. Stand a chance against weekend soldiers that make up most of the army? Actually, yes.Its not some fantasy, I've hear this clause before and it basically boils down to this idiotic idea that somehow rebellion is impossible. People don't die because there are guns, they die because people are violent. Millions of people have died over this "only the government should have guns" fantasy of yours, that's still leaving out law abiding citizens that are now vulnerable to criminals. You want to know why burglary rates are low in the US? Because criminals know that if they break into that house, these is a good chance the owner has a gun and will fight back.Guns are protection, when they are used violently it is not grounds to take the guns away from everyone else who didn't nothing wrong.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Uh, totally!

First of all, do you think it would really be weekend warriors. We don't even use troops to kill people now we use drones strikes. So you can Will Smith all you want but it's pointless. And I'm not saying rebellion is impossible. I'm saying its not necessary. Obama isn't out to get you. And owning a gun doesn't make you safer. You're 88% more likely to be shot if you own a gun. Does that sound safe? WE are not violent, YOU are violent. You have violent delusions and the result is far too often a bunch of innocent dead people. If you believe the government that provides all they do is against you then you can think anyone is.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

Whoever said this is because of Obama?And owning a gun does not somehow make you more likely to get shot. Unless you:a. Live in a police state where guns are illegalb. Pretend to be the sandy hook shooterc. Point it at your faceHow do I have violent delusions? My "delusion" is that people should have the right to bear arms to defend themselves from criminals and if the government becomes brutality violent they can shoot back. This idea hasn't killed anyone, the idea that guns need to be taken away has left people at the mercy of tyrannical governments and criminals, that has killed people.And as for drones, drones are expensive and have lots of collateral damage, causing collateral damage (from the government's perspective) on their own land, own people and own means of production is a REALLY fucking stupid idea.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Uh, totally!

Yes it does make you (88%) more likely to be shot. You can't say disagree with a statistic with your opinion. Most people have no idea what they are doing with guns. They shoot themselves. They commit suicide but most importantly they cause other people who have guns too kill them instead of rob them. Which is exactly what happens when you "defend" yourself. Someone breaks into your home, you think "Finally, my chance!" And as you go for your gun you are killed in the most anti climatic way ever. That's the fate of your defence. The idea you need to protect yourself from the government is the violent delusion. A) It would obviously be violent if you need guns. B) The idea you need to battle the government is delusional. Hence = Violent Delusions And yes the idea has killed people. In fact over 100,000 people in America every year die for your delusion. And if the government wants you dead and you need guns, why would they give a shit about collateral damage.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

You really believe the government is all powerful? Like if they wanted you dead, they could do it with a snap of their fingers? They don't have that power. They can't just do things whenever they feel like it. If they did, they would be just like Stalin, Hitler, Mao Ze Dong, Kim Jong Ill/Un, Castro. They killed more people than the entire holocaust multiplied a few times. And EVERY single country they were in didn't allow the citizens to own firearms. If we are as violent as you say we are, all of you Liberal anti-gunners would be dead a long time ago. We want to protect your freedoms, even if you don't appreciate it. The FBI, police, and the states say that letting citizens own guns decreases crime. There is actually a town in Georgia that requires every one in the town to own a firearm. Their population tripled in 20 years, their crime went down to almost nothing. Every single school that allows concealed carry on campus or for the teachers has NEVER had a shooting and crime was reduced. And you think that we enjoy the chance to kill someone? No one wants to kill anybody. Only the mentally insane and criminals do. Killing is not a thing to enjoy nor worship. It is a deplorable thing. I would kill only if that someone threatened my life or that of someone around me. And to show in statistics, self-defense cases show only a percentage of less than 1% of people actually pulled the trigger, most just threatened and presented the weapon against the intruder (FBI). That was enough to scare the criminal. Please look up facts before making assumptions. It shows your ignorance on the matter and the propaganda pumped into you. The FBI site is a great place to start, as well as the CATO Institue.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Uh, totally!

Ok so we need to be more free like the non oppressive governments in the Middle East that allow citizens to carry fire arms. I mean an oppressive government would never allow that right? They must have the right idea. And as far as the FBI saying that. You're just lying lolhttp://en.mercopress.com/2009/06/04/new-york-city-remains-the-safest-city-in-united-states-according-to-fbi http://online.wsj.com/article/APee79b3d1af8b4e9483a401e655a937e5.html It's great to tell someone to go to the FBI site lol I think you should look on google. And again it's great to pull a gun on a criminal but its 4.2 times as likely he'll kill you. So have fun
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

Yay sources! I get what they are saying here. Maybe stricter gun laws did help, but also the increased activity and push by Police did most of the work. And your WSJ gave the opinion that the national average of gun crime has gone down, yet gun ownership is up. And it also stated that the entire thing can't be credited on gun laws. Health care, decreased poverty, and education were the majority. I would say that the majority of this was because of the other factors, not gun laws.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Uh, totally!

Well lets be fair WSJ narrative is going to be pro gun. It's a Murdoch paper. And what about Cananda. Why are gun crimes so low? Friendlier people?You're just stating your opinion against facts. And wouldn't gun laws mean more police activity anyways.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

I like Canadians. I've been to the country before. You guys have amazing weather. I like Nova Scotia myself.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

We do have amazing weather. I'm in The Maritimes and it is a mild -35C with the wind chill right now!
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

Jeez. I'm used to Fahrenheit (Murica!), but damn! That's cold.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

I would love to see this statistic that you are using as the base of your entire argument. No one says "oh finally, my chance" they say "fuck, someone broke in" get their gun and shoot at whoever is in the house or just call 911 and protect their kids.The idea you need to protect yourself from the government is the violent delusion.A) It would obviously be violent if you need guns.B) The idea you need to battle the government is delusional.A) If you are just keeping a gun in case something goes wrong, it is not violent.B) The idea that government will never become oppressive is a delusion.The idea that keeping a gun in your home in case you need to protect yourself is "violent" is delusional.And yes the idea has killed people. In fact over 100,000 people in America every year die for your delusion.100,000 a year? http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/uscrime.htm  I think not...And if the government wants you dead and you need guns, why would they give a shit about collateral damage.For a few reasons:A) They kill anyone near you, you can rest assure that some of their friends/family will take up arms against whatever force killed them.B) Since it would be a rebellion in America, it is in the American Government's best interest not to destroy their own infrastructure and industry.C) Drone warfare is extremely unpopular among most of the world, difference is that in Afghanistan when a kid gets killed it goes un-reported, in the developed world if a reporter gets a hold of that it can change the rest of the world's view on the situation.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Uh, totally!

The 88% stat is from a documentary so I can't post it. But here's the first thing that comes up when you look at subject. A study that finds you're 4.2 more likely to be murder by a gun and 4.5 times more likely to be shot. Feel safer?http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17922-carrying-a-gun-increases-risk-of-getting-shot-and-killed.html You aren't keeping a gun in case something goes wrong. You are keeping a gun to fight the government. And of course governments can become dangerous, that's why we keep a strong democracy. You think guns protect that you're insane. If there was a vote. And the majority said they wanted to ban guns. What would you think then? And using a stat on murder has nothing to do with gun crime. A kid who finds his dads gun and kills himself isn't a murder. The last part of you argument makes it sound like you think the government is targeting you specifically. I wish I had the list to out people like you on. I don't get the logic. The government is attacking us but they are doing it politely without anyone noticing? What are you talking about.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

The thing is, some of histories most violent and oppressive governments are democratically elected. The Nazis are a good example, Ancient Rome also.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Uh, totally!

Yah but isn't it pretty obvious we aren't that? It's scary to think anyone thinks we are.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

The fear is that we could turn into that. Its why the founding fathers wanted to create a Republic, not a democracy. Republic is ruled by law, a Democracy by majority. A straight Democracy is 2 wolves and a sheep voting for who's dinner. A law prohibiting the wolves to vote on eating the sheep is the best.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Uh, totally!

That was over 200 years ago. Why do we want to live like we did the. Things are different. We came here on boats and people died from colds. It's a different world. Lets make laws that apply to this world, not the one we bought with beaver pelts. And in most cases your right. Except kids are dying so the sheep can have his gun. Almost any other situation you're dead on. This one has too much blood on it
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

Oh, the government tried to stop him. They swore that a gun-fee zone and security doors and cameras would stop him. But it didn't. Maybe if a teacher had a gun?
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Uh, totally!

First of all. I didn't say the first part lol. But to address it. Is Brazil or Russia really anywhere near on par with America. If that's the living standard you want. Have at it. I'll tell you what. You come up with something that happened this century as a basis for your argument and I'll take you seriously. So you say all this about how te government would fight us smart. But you'd rebel right. So do you assume they let you win? They don't want collateral damage but if that's what it took to run through you. They'd do it. Starting to understand?
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

I don't assume they would let whoever is rebelling win, however, they understand what collateral damage does. They can either send in the army or militia and fight whoever is rebelling or use drones. When they kill people who weren't involved, destroy infrastructure and roads it hurts them more. I'm not saying "well, the government will fight gentleman's style" I'm saying that any somewhat intelligent military understand who this works. As for the whole "this century" thing that is only a 13 year period, so that kind of gets Hitler, Stalin, Zedong, Pol etc.But anyway, what about the Winnende Shooting in Germany? They have have very strict gun control laws.Brazil and Russia are both modern industrialized nations.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

"Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it"-George Santayana
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Uh, totally!

No they aren't." Those who use no common sense and logic are bound to make stupid decisions" -Rob MaillouxPeople only look to history when it serves their purpose
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

Please tell that to Napoleon and Hitler when they tried to invade Russia. They didn't learn history very well when the Teutonic Knights invaded Novgorod. Napoleon was a smart guy, he was one of the greatest generals in all time. But he didn't follow history's example. And his army was almost wiped out by a fierce Russian Winter. Same thing for Hitler (though he wasn't a smart guy).
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Uh, totally!

But instead of reading history to find an obscure example they could have just looked up how fucking cold it is in Russia.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

Napoleon couldn't have gotten accurate weather predictions, it was the 1800's. And even in the 1940's it was hard to predict. And I think several thousand Teutonic Knights is not very obscure. It is one of the most recorded battles in history. The name has slipped my mind though.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Uh, totally!

Lol if the name slipped your mind then you can't expect a busy guy like Napolean or Hitler to remember. And the point is, we're smarter than history now. Things are different. We have weather reports so we don't make those mistakes. That's exactly my point.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

Worth saying that banning guns from a society used to them is no t same thing as looking at countries that never had generalized possession of personal weapons. Banning guns in America would probably lead to more crime.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

If we ban guns they will just move to a black market, and then we cant track them.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Uh, totally!

You mean like when criminals steal "legal" guns from dummies.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

No when smuggling rings and the like get them .
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Uh, totally!

True. Probably the same smugglers that smuggle guns now right?
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

I'm not even going to go into what the constitution says. We all have lives we want to keep, weather it's ours or someone else's. Having a gun as a weapon is what keeps us safe. Yes there are people who have them who do bad. Even if you make guns illegal do you think no civilian will get one? Some drugs are illegal yet people still use them. Making guns illegal to the public won't change anything. Actually it will make things worse because the people with good intentions with them won't be able to have them when they need them.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Uh, totally!

Owning a gun makes you 88% more likely to be killed by one. Feel safer now?
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Uh, totally!

We all have to go sometime. ;)Life became so much more simple once I made the concious decision that I have no intention of living forever ;)
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Uh, totally!

Okay, that's totally correct. I fully support that and it actually makes sense. Apparently the number of civilians that own guns in the US is 270 million. COME ON GUYS!
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Uh, totally!

Thank you for the logic here. He keeps trying to sneak things by. It shows his argument is falling apart. Why try to fuck the #'s to support yourself if you didn't think you we're losing.
Debate: Should The Government Ban The Sale Of Guns To Civilians In America?
Side: Of course not!

What makes you say that? You can say any number to me but you've given me no proof to back that up.