azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Capitalism

There I changed it for the whiners. People pretending they don't show bias in their answers.....yea right. Again different worldviews that divide....socialism/capitalism and what really made this country great. The values and principles that made people want to die for this country....where is the truth. The past 50 years have been full of liberal elites who have been working hard to dismantle the morals of our nation. These elites mainly Democrats preach that there is nothing wrong with education...that money can't fix. They love multiculterism....all while tossing American culture out the window. They rewrite history, take God out of the equation relacing Him with secular humanism....and instead of capitalism...they love enviromentalism...socialism. The American Dream came about because of capitalism and none of the above. The American Dream did not happen because the government had more control. The decades of evidence prove that when the state controls things....they run it into the ground. Government and private industry fail every time. ...because they work from different sides of the road. Private businesses, companies create wealth...and the governments responsiblity is to protect those persuing that dream. Private businesses make sure that every dollar has a return....and the government spends whatever it rakes in. Corporations are in bed with its shareholders and those who are buying the service and the government is in bed with the bureaucracy and special interst groups.....politicians and unions. And we have seen since Obama has taken office that the government meddles...just look at the Post Office...the car industry....health care. They love to tell us what we need,,,then regulate and redistribute the wealth as they see it. They redistbute to help the lazy and the unmotivated. Basically like I said when I started this debate.....they steal what we make. Not so with capitalism. It honors private ownership and freedom and responsiblity and it rewards those who WORK HARD something that socialism does not. Here is a good article on why socialism fails.http://hubpages.com/hub/Why-Does-Socialism-Always-Fail
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Capitalism

"There I changed it for the whiners. People pretending they don't show bias in their answers.....yea right." In their answers maybe, but not usually in the options."They rewrite history, take God out of the equation relacing Him with secular humanism....and instead of capitalism."Because god is a negative impact to societal structure and with the variety of religions there is no respectful way to keep god in the mainstream of society. And you also fail to know that we are not a capitalist society. Far from it. We lack the brutal principles that make capitalism what it is.Im not even going to waste my time on the other right wing bull you just posted.".they steal what we make"Actually all product is the result of community in socialism, so all product is the product of utilized social dependency. So it is not theft.It obvious you don't understand the brutality of what actual capitalism calls for. I may be for it, but im surprised you and your "morals" would find such a system appealing. Now for you link. I find it funny that the author tried to connect unrelated things, like executive communism and socialism, which couldn't be more different. Socialism is a form of money structure. One that has actually seen consistent decent success. Executive communism on the other hand has not. And like I have said elsewhere on this debate, no country has ever been allowed to follow true capitalism.
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Capitalism

Why is god a negative impact? Because he tells us that killing is wrong, stealing is wrong? Because there is some form of morality with god and nothing without him...its subjective. God has always been in mainstream society. The largest religion in America is Christianity for crying out loud. I agree that we lack capitalist principles...we have been taken over by humanists, who believe that we should be socialists. It is theft if you pay the government almost half of what you make. It is theft when you have to run your business the way the government wants you to run it. And they do this by restrictions. Socialism is a way of life...it has more to do with peoples lives than money. Let me ask you this.....there is a family who is extremely poor who lives in your neighborhood. The husband can't work because he lost his job and the wife stays home to take care of their four children. They can't meet their bills. Would you support the government if they forced the neighbors to divide their bills and pay them? And for anyone that refused, they would face fines or jail. Should you force someone to do something they don't want to do...even though that person needs help? Forcing someone to do this...is slavery. You hold to something you have no right to do. Who then is the victim?However good the motive or act might be...its wrong. Obamas health plan forces people to purchase something they don't want to purchase.
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Socialism

Because of the Dark Ages, when you take things literally, nothing good comes out of it. Even if Christianity is embedded into America, that doesn't reunite Church and State. They run in completely separate ruts.Jesus wouldn't of supported Capitalism, remember how he sent away the tax collectors and supported the poor? If anything, he hated money."It is theft if you pay the government almost half of what you make."That's basically citizenship rent. I have no problem with paying rent."It is theft when you have to run your business the way the government wants you to run it. And they do this by restrictions. Socialism is a way of life...it has more to do with peoples lives than money. "I support the businesses being forced to play on equal grounds. I support an equal chance for everyone, limitation brings creativity.As for the neighbour situation, I would pay for them, because God taught me to love my neighbour. I like to think that it's better to support humanity as a whole, just like the saying "United we stand, divided we fall." Face it, if it were completely capitalist, we'd have a different America. An America with a much more vast wealth gap resulting in a lower standard of living. Besides, I'm Canadian, my health care is already free.
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Capitalism

"Why is god a negative impact?"Because god as the majority of the population sees him is based on a ignorant pattern of thinking and promotion of close minded living." Because he tells us that killing is wrong, stealing is wrong?"Killing has been against human laws in places way before the establishment of all the major religions. We have known killing is wrong longer then your fake god has existed."Because there is some form of morality with god and nothing without him...its subjective."That morality you are referring to is non existent. It's not our problem if you lack the ability to maintain personal values without the aid of a fiction book. "It is theft if you pay the government almost half of what you make."That is not what happens in socialism. "It is theft when you have to run your business the way the government wants you to run it."That is not what happens in socialism."Socialism is a way of life...it has more to do with peoples lives than money."Actually socialism is a money structure, so you wrong on that. "hey can't meet their bills. Would you support the government if they forced the neighbors to divide their bills and pay them? "That is not what happens in socialism. Socialism equates business taxes compared to and visa versa to the taxes of other sectors. It wouldn't run on the individual level unless it was changed, then it wouldn't be actual socialism. "And for anyone that refused, they would face fines or jail."Actually Im not sure they would refuse, if socialism were an actually workable system people wouldn't mind. That is the main problem with socialism. Not the structure, not the principles, the problem is the idea that humans will accept this system to its entirety, which I can guarantee they won't."Forcing someone to do this...is slavery"Actually no its not, as slavery requires a higher caste system, which doesn't exist in socialism. All product is the product of community. "You hold to something you have no right to do"Again if it were an actual socialist state, they wouldn't care or refuse. Also, rights are dependent of the government, don't keep you puny biased mind in one section of thinking. These are world terms that aren't dictated by your ignorant sense of morality or consequence. "However good the motive or act might be...its wrong."Says you, the one who insists that abortion is wrong but supports the system that allows the economically inept and inservicable to die and be replaced.
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Socialism

"Why is god a negative impact? Because he tells us that killing is wrong, stealing is wrong?"...that the pursuit of the accumulation of wealth and not sharing it with those less well off than you is wrong...Yeah, people like you usually tend to kind of skip past that one, don't they? despite how often Jesus was said to have made the point.
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Socialism

They rewrite history, take God out of the equation relacing Him with secular humanism....and instead of capitalism...they love enviromentalism...socialism. I find it hilarious to see someone talking about "taking God out of the equation" and championing capitalism in the same sentence.Because , you know, Jesus was such a huge capitalist and all. I mean, the guy never stopped talking about the virtues of making as much money as you possibly could am I right?oh... wait...""Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.' They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?' He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least among you, you did not do for me.'" Or "Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.'"Or""People who want to get rich fall into temptation and a trap and into many foolish and harmful desires that plunge men into ruin and destruction. For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs."Or""No one can serve two masters. Either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and Money." Or""If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me."Yeah... curse those liberals for ignoring God and not worshiping Capitalism!Sheesh. Pick one or the other churchmouse, either you follow God or you follow Capitalism but don't pretend you can do both.
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Capitalism

I'm going to say first that I'm definitely capitalism all the way. Now with that said,a part of me and most other people who choose capitalism is because of the fact that we're used to it. It's basically proven that people tend to always choose what they are the most used to because they fear what they do not understand or have no experienced. From the socialism that we have seen in places like China(And yes I'm aware that China is communist but it basically coincides with socialism) we know how dangerous socialism can be. But how can we be so sure that the same type of socialism would happen in America? As far as we know,our "socialism" might not go any further than losing private property(which admittedly is still pretty bad). I just think it's a good thing to keep an open mind about this situation but as I said,I'm a capitalist 100%. I like having freedom,rights,and liberty. I like making money and buying things for myself rather than making money for people who don't work. But that's just me,everyone has the right to their own opinion.
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Capitalism

The people who work hard get rewarded that's fair. Taking money from the hard working rich is unfair.
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Socialism

I agree, but why say that? That is not Socialism................................................
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Capitalism

Bottom line: Socialism is for the people, not the Socialist. How many leaders of socialist nations adhere to the same restrictions and regulations they place upon the people? In a socialist society you are a subject, in a non-socialist society you are a citizen.The difficult part of this debate is the fact that capitalism revolves around mostly economics and socialism more so, well social issues; hence (social)ism.Granted, we are not entirely a capitalistic society, I doubt we have even allowed a free market to attempt to operate. It seems that every time the market showed any sign of instability the big hand of the government stepped in to try to correct it with out giving it a chance to correct itself. No matter what form of government a nation has, there will always be an elite class that thinks of themselves as somehow above the rest. In a non socialist society the people are empowered to remove them and in the case of the US, we are empowered to remove the whole government should we so choose. I know of no socialist society that has that kind of power. I have lived in Europe and seen socialism at work. German parents cannot name their children without first getting approval from "big brother". A government bureaucrat must first approve that name to ensure that the child will not be teased due to his name. Try going to a european hospital. Or how about your future beyond high school.
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Capitalism

Look at history Rome was great because the invented and capitalism supports that. And again look at when the steam engine was created (Do to an inventor that made it) business was booming. And now look at Socialism. Mao in china took everything from farmer and put them under government control . People starved to death because of the low farms production.
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Capitalism

Yes and when the iron curtain was lifted the entire world saw that the nigh-invulnerable engine of evil they were all fearing in fact had less food in all of Moscow than the the average american had in their pantry, after the first few years of communist rule everything was all down hill.
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Capitalism

Socialism is for the unemployed and it doesn't work(one example: EUROPE IS BANKRUPT). Capitalism is for the employed and allows there to be the AMERICAN DREAM(one example:AMERICA(especially before Franklin Roosevelt)).
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Socialism

Lol, do you honestly think Europe is Socialist? this mistake being pointed out destroys your whole argument. And where is the American dream for those suffering hardships because they cannot get a job?
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Capitalism

I think we've already established that the only point any socialist will ever have is a misquote from the bible (It never said "money is the root of all evil", but rather "the love of money is the root of many evils), and that it's based entirely on rejecting human nature, but what everyone seems to be ignoring is technology, so let's look at the Soviets' military advancements. First up we have the BTR-60, an armor troop transport, which they KNEW would be carrying people in warzones, which had a FREAKIN' SUNROOF, no roof, only a tarp and they had no technical reason to leave a roof out, they just weren't trying to limit casualties. The November class submarine, known for it's ability to spontaneously combust and it's reputation for putting out the fires by suffocating it's own crew. The 2B1 Oka atomic cannon, which was impossible to deploy, had no use on a battlefield, and would obliterate itself every time it fired. The Kirov, a ship which was never fired upon by anythin other than itself, it actually managed to torpedoe itself when it was tested, not one was ever sunk, because they were to afraid to fire and no one else thought it was worth the ammo. And finally, the Yak-38 Forger, the embodiement of every problem any plane has ever had. These were all put into production and meant to be used, proving that not only was the soviet government extremely poor at descision-making, but that they gave engineering jobs to people who are obvious not even qualified to face shelves.
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Capitalism

Capitalism has to win over socialism.Because, socialists eventually always run out of "other peoples" money. Then it crumbles and no one remembers how to look after themselves.Socialism=Peter Pan syndrome.
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Socialism legalized theft

They're better at different things and the question is too simple to allow that to be intelligently discussed, so technically I should abstain. But creating two debate position titles this ridiculously biased is so ridiculous I have to vote for socialism as a protest measure.
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Capitalism

I protested by removing the overly biased labels from the tags. Don't give her the satisfaction of using her presented sides.
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Socialism

Point, usually I do that actually. Should have thought to here.(I'm still going against Capitalism just because real, unrestricted free market Capitalism with a capital "C" is too volatile and economically hazardous. People who talk about things like the invisible hand of the market taking care of everything tend to overlook that that hand is perfectly fine crushing you under it's thumb to move the market to an equilibrium point. They act like if we just got out of it's way it would create some kind of economic utopia like a benevolent deity or something)
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Capitalism

"Capitalism with a capital "C" is too volatile and economically hazardous. "I actually find capitalism to be very stable in that it perfectly takes advantage of promised action. I feel it takes into account people's tendencies in business more so then socialism. The very ground socialism was founded on didn't have as good an insight to the human condition as capitalism did."They act like if we just got out of it's way it would create some kind of economic utopia like a benevolent deity or something)"I agree, and I feel most people misunderstand what capitalism entails. It wasn't designed to make a nation with a general standard of living like socialism was, it was designed to make a a completely self dependent nation without any interruption by a higher authority in business(except in legal matters).
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Capitalism

What part of a free country don't you understand? Big govt is a NO NO. Capitalism is what can save our country. Socialism=Communism. Economically hazardous are you for real? Its not called Economically hazardous is called letting the people create jobs and do what they need to do without the govt taxing a regulating them to death. If you don't believe in capitalism then America is just not your country! Go to a land where socialism works, the only reason a majority of dems dont go to a place like that is because it DOESN'T WORK. whats with socialist's stupid answers seriously!?
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Socialism

Socialism=Communism. Since the fact that that statement is false is not even remotely debatable, that one statement basically tells me everything I need to know about how well you understand the subject we're discussing. Come back when you get a basic education and we'll talk.And "places like that" where socialism works are almost every other first world country on earth you moron. Most of Europe is what we refer to as "social democracies"... a.k.a. socialist states. Try visiting sometime and learn something.
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Capitalism

Boy if you know so much about it then why isn't it working for America? Can you tell me that? Socialism falls under big govt which I can gaurantee you hasn't been working. You are pretty much right most of Europe is socialist land, BUT that is also why America is called "Land of the free" and they are not. Did you know that The poor in America have more than the working class in europe? We were not founded with socialist's thats why our ancestors left Europe dumbass! to get away from the socialist way of life! Which also falls under your statement "Most of Europe is what we refer to as "Social Democracies"...a.k.a. socialist states." So your proving my point with that statement and that's also why I have said there is no such place that has socialism that works! So before you call me a moron you should get yourself alot more educated on what "we're discussing". Again what's with the socialist's stupid answers?! seriously!
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Socialism

Boy if you know so much about it then why isn't it working for America? Can you tell me that?America isn't trying it genius. It's working everywhere else.
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Capitalism

Ok is our govt running America more socialist like or capitalist like right now? Obama is socialist he wants big govt so technically our govt is socialist and 14 trillion dollar debt isn't helping the socialist arguement because obama has us in more debt than all the presidents combined yes that is a fact look it up. "America isn't trying it genius." Really? were not? big govt wanting to fund everything and tell you what your kids will eat at school and possibly taxing you for every mile you drive thats not trying it? Im sorry your undereducated but try to keep up k?
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Socialism

You cannot tell if a government is socialist or capitalist by it's SIZE. You have tell by the functions it performs and how it performs them. Socialism and Capitalism aren't matters of magnitude, they're about matters of economic policy. "Big Govt" doesn't mean anything. It's just something some people slap on bumper stickers.
Debate: Capitalism or Socialism
Side: Capitalism

Ok china has a big govt why are there people so happy with it? and why do people come to America for a new way of life? China forces workers almost like slaves for pennies on the dollar, there govt has all the money the chinese people really have nothing and your telling me big govt "is just something people slap on bumber stickers." really? there is no reasoning behind it? Or lets go to Iraq saddam huessin had millions of dollars and mansions built of gold while his people and military had nothing and "Big Govt" means nothing? "You have tell by the functions it performs and how it performs them." You want to talk about functions? look at our govt spend spend spend, telling you what your kids are going to eat in school or giving taxpayer money bailouts to big corporations thats our economy and its 14 trillion dollar debt that has nothing to do with big govt? thats a function isn't it? Well i just told you the some of the functions our government is "performing" and it is socialism and it IS NOT working. Until you can get a little bit more educated you shouldn't argue about things that you are very undereducated about. Your wrong. Socialism is very stupid.