azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

"You are the one repeating the same rhetoric over and over and over, trying to prove God is not good because He allows suffering in the world."According to Christian theology he doesn't just allow suffering, he creates it. Christian theology states that god created all life on earth. That means he created all of the things I listed in my original argument.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

"The fact that you will not believe God loves you does not mean I am dodging your questions and objections"No, but the fact that you aren't answering any of my questions means you are dodging my questions, and the fact that you banned me and many other people shows you are dodging us and are unable to defend your position."The man who cannot listen to an argument which opposes his views either has a weak position or is a weak defender of it. No opinion that cannot stand discussion or criticism is worth holding. And it has been wisely said that the man who knows only half of any question is worse off than the man who knows nothing of it. He is not only one-sided but his partisanship soon turns him into an intolerant and a fanatic. In general it is true that nothing which cannot stand up under discussion or criticism is worth defending" - James E. Talmage
Debate: God loves you.
Side: I don't believe it.

I answered you more than enough to know you will not listen to reason. There is no good reason to continue arguing with you when it's obvious that you don't want to hear the truth and will not believe it. I made the mistake of believing you were actually listening when you were only plotting your never-ending diatribe against God which only He can interrupt....and He will, like it or not.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

I answered you more than enough to know you will not listen to reason. There is no good reason to continue arguing with you when it's obvious that you don't want to hear the truth and will not believe it
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

I can understand that you might feel better if nobody in the world believes Jesus is risen from the dead and He is God who died for us to save us from Hell, I can understand you might feel better if everybody dies without hope like you.........but I cannot understand why you think your life is defensible when you are losing it. God loves you and is trying to save your life so you don't lose it forever in eternal death in Hell. If saying that drives you away from God, then He has hardened your heart because you love your heart to be hard against Him because you want your sin more than you want His love. That's your choice and God lets you have it because He loves you. It's not His or my fault if you reject His love. It's your own fault. Trying to blame me, God, or anybody else for your choice will not get you excused from death or from Hell. You can believe God loves you now, but if this is your last chance to believe it and you end up in Hell you will never again be able to believe He loves you because there will be nothing good for you to experience from Him. I hope you are still with us here because I believe you are still lost and dying if not in Hell already.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

Read your argument but replace the word "God" with "Thor". Then you'll understand just how unconvincing it is to someone who doesn't believe in your god.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

You are not asking questions, you are making accusations against God and God is not bowing down to allow you out of death. You're always a pest to me, you don't want to listen, you just want to spout off your hatred against God, and I don't want to argue with you when you are only drowning yourself in your sin.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

You are not asking honest questions, you are making accusations and allegations based on false hypothesis. You need to start with the assumption that God is always good and then go back and read the Bible again and see if you can figure out for yourself why God gave those rules for Israel as He commanded them, guided them, and helped them to conquer the Promised Land.....why He drove out the inhabitants of that land and gave it to Israel, and why Israel failed to trust and obey God and eventually fell into captivity and became subjects to nations who conquered them. You are not understanding the Bible and not understanding God. I am not your Sunday School teacher, but you sure need some lessons. Apparently you have decided that God's word is not God's word, and God is not good. All you are doing is separating yourself from God and you can't blame God is He leaves you in Hell forever.God loves you and wants to reason with you so you can be pardoned and not suffer the penalty you deserve for sinning against Him, He does not want you to burn in Hell. That is why He became a man and died in your place, to pay for your sins against God with His blood, and forgive you in His resurrection if you will believe on Him and call on God in His name to save you from Hell.You are the one dodging the issue...the issue is that you have sinned against God and He loves you still and wants you to come to repentance so you can be saved before you finalize your death as a sinner and it's too late.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: I don't believe it.

This is what it looks like when someone dodges the issue. Your Christian God condones slavery in the Bible and yet according to you still loves the people whose enslavement he condones. This has nothing to do with whether he loves the person you are debating, rendering your post non-responsive. Your failure to address a valid counterpoint is effectively a concession either that God does not love everyone or that God's conception is love is a gross distortion upon what we understand love to be.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

You are the one dodging the issue here. You are dying and need to be saved and God loves you so much that He died in your place to save you from your sins, your death, and the Hell you deserve. He paid the price for you because He loves you and you think you are smart and strong by saying "I don't care about that because I don't believe it." The issues is your sin which is taking you down in death and God's love for you which is giving you time to reason with Him and accept Jesus Christ as your Savior. There is no other way to be saved except by God Himself and you can know Him now through Jesus Christ God loves you even though you are repeatedly insulting Him, repeated trampling His blood under your feet after He took your place in death by being crucified. He did not deserve our death, we do. He took our death because we cannot handle it, only God can handle it and He conquered it for you because He loves you and wants you to trust Him so you can be saved from Hell.The only one between you and God who has gross distortions is you, and somehow in your distortions you think you are justified for life and don't need to be saved, don't need God's love. It's only His mercy for you in love that keeps you out of Hell now. Are you still with us here, or did God's appointed time for you to leave us come and go while I was away?
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

This is what is looks like when a guy who believes in meaninglessness tries to enter a discussion where objective truth must be included......the fool gets kicked out of the room for talking to much when he has nothing to talk about.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

The debate is God loves YOU. This is about YOU, not about other people. This slavery stuff is off topic. This issue is not slavery or whether or not God loves somebody who serves a master as a slave. The slavery issue is being used as a smokescreen behind which the smoker is hiding his or her true feelings. The smoker is angry at God and trying to slander God...and what good it is to believe you are proving God does not love you is beyond me. The slavery argument is an atheist argument which will not listen to reason. God is always justified in anything He does or does not do, always right, and always good. The slavery argument being used here is a never ending because it is built on the false hypothesis that God is not good. It's a devil's argument attempting to prove that God has no right to leave any creature confined in prison of Hell forever. It's dodging the issue of God's love by implying God is not good and it is not worthy of discussion in this debate and that is why I banned it all.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

Have you read the Bible? You are taking little pieces out of context and using them as justification for your belief that you are as good as God or better, I guess.Is that it? You think that you are as good as God whether He is real or not? That's what happens in twisted reasoning because God gave us the power of reason and the freedom to twist logic, even allowing you to speak evil against Him by insisting He is not there and does not love you.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

"Have you read the Bible?"Yes, I have read the Bible. I was a very devout Christian for 25 years. "You are taking little pieces out of context."Prove it. Show how the context changes the meaning. I included links to all the verses so you could view the context. Just click the links, then click the icon with a bunch of horizontal lines right above the bible version drop-down list to see the verse in context.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

You won't accept proof that God loves you no matter what God does, other than for God to allow you to be God and He won't do that so you are on your own.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

Translation: "I was wrong about LittleMisfit taking those verses out of context, but I can't admit that to him so I will once again ignore what he said and resort to attacking his character."
Debate: God loves you.
Side: I don't believe it.

Translation: Misfish is a character who thinks it has the right to exist outside of Hell due to the fact it's not burning in the fire now...assuming the fish is still with us.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: I don't believe it.

You are sidetracking from the point of the debate with an issue which you are indeed taking out of context. The context is Israel after God brought them out of Egypt and prepared them to enter the promised land by giving them His law before driving out the inhabitants of the land.You are taking one issue, slavery, ignoring the Biblical context and interpreting the Bible teaching according to your petty hatred against God. It was God's law and God's word, not Moses'. For somebody who claims to have read the Bible and to have been a devout Christian for a long time, you seem to me to be pretty ignorant of who the author of the Bible is (God) as well as understanding the Bible. There were specific reasons for God displacing and defeating the peoples whose land He gave to Israel, and His law regarding servants and masters was good and was not the perversions of slavery you are trying to turn it into. I chose to ignore your sidetracking because you are avoiding the personal issue of God's love...what God failed to do for you personally or what God did to you....so you feel He does not love you personally.As for your claim of being a devout Christian, you may have been religious but you were never a Christian or you could not talk the way you do against God and you could not try to twist and pervert His word the way you do.Whatever happened to you so that you feel so unlovable that God can't love you...I don't know. I do know you are not being honest about it.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

Enough of this. Foxglove gave you way more of an answer than you deserve on this subject, you could read the Bible for yourself and know God personally yourself rather than pick bits and take them out of context and reject anybody who does real work to explain the Bible when you are copy and pasting college internet atheistic propaganda which will not listen to reasoning. You are banned. This is not a debate about slavery or the topic of slavery in the Bible. If God's allowance of servitude in the Bible, void of your understanding of the Bible, if your reason for believing you proved God cannot love you, fine. Who are you trying to fool? You are using the slavery issue as a smokescreen for your hatred of God. Somehow you feel he mistreated you or neglected your poor little feelings so you hate Him. He sill loves you. I'm tired of your babblings. God has more patience than me.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

"you could read the Bible for yourself"I have read it. If you think the Bible doesn't approve of slavery, then apparently you haven't read it."rather than pick bits and take them out of context and reject anybody who does real work to explain the Bible when you are copy and pasting college internet atheistic propaganda which will not listen to reasoning."I'm not copying and pasting anyones arguments by my own from previous debates. None of the verses I've quoted are taken out of context and I challenge you to prove me wrong. If you can prove that I've taken out of context I will retract my statements and offer you a formal apology.This is not a debate about slavery or the topic of slavery in the Bible.It's a debate about whether god loves us or not and the fact that he approves of slavery is evidence that he doesn't. So, if you're just going to ban everyone that presents evidence that opposes your position, then you shouldn't be on a debate site, you should be on TellMeHowRightIAm.com.You are using the slavery issue as a smokescreen for your hatred of God.How can I hate something I don't even believe exists?Somehow you feel he mistreated you or neglected your poor little feelings so you hate Him. I don't feel mistreated or neglected. I have a great life. How about you actually start addressing people's arguments instead of attacking strawmen.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

And now you have banned him too. How absurd. It is woeful that you cannot even understand just how unreasonable your own behaviour is. Then again perhaps this accounts for your total inability to understand others.....or at least try to.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

wonderful. Now explain why the God-hater should believe they are loved by God when they see all the suffering in the world.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

Your taking from the Old Testament when God had to compromise with the Jews who had to hardened of hearts to accept anything different.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: I don't believe it.

If that's really the case then we may as well throw out the rest of gods rules. Most people have sex before marriage, all people lie, millions of people take the lords name in vain, billions of people worship other gods, etc. So I guess all those things are allowed now for the same reason god allowed slavery, right? Besides, you haven't provided any evidence to support your claim. It's just a baseless assertion. Show me some verses where god says the only reason he allowed slavery is because of the hardness of their hearts.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

“Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever” [Romans 1: 24-25]“They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart” [Ephesians 4:18]No. Just because there has been deviation from His rules does not mean we should continue along that route. Christ still upheld His Father’s commandments when He came in spite of the presence of behaviour contrary to them and the same applies to modern society.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

You cant' shove it down their throat even if it's what they need to save their lives from Hell. Maybe you think that we all deserve to burn in Hell.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

Neither of those verses supports the idea that slavery, or any other sin for that matter, is okay just because people won't accept anything different. I think you're misinterpreting the phrase "god gave them up". Here is a page that explains it. If god truly was against slavery he would have said something about it being a sin, but not only does he not say that, but he explicitly tells people that they can have them. He doesn't say, "Although enslaving people is a sin that I strongly disapprove of, I will allow you to have them anyway because you're too stubborn to listen to me." Instead god says, "you may acquire male and female slaves." They can be your "property" and "a possession". Selling your daughters into slavery is okay, and they should never be set free, unlike male slaves. So, not only is god pro-slavery, he is sexist.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

Neither of those verses supports the idea that slavery, or any other sin for that matter, is okay just because people won't accept anything different. I think you're misinterpreting the phrase "god gave them up". Here is a page that explains it.No need, the verses are self-evident. Though the first does not pertain to slavery as such it does pertain to sexual impurity (“dishonouring their bodies”) and misdirected worship. The second verse actually pertains to the new lifestyle one most adopt when they become a Christian which concerns eschewing the ways of the world whom are without God and consequently do not use His standards to regulate their behaviour. It is about changing yourself as you take on Christ’s identity. If god truly was against slavery he would have said something about it being a sin, but not only does he not say that, but he explicitly tells people that they can have them. He doesn't say, "Although enslaving people is a sin that I strongly disapprove of, I will allow you to have them anyway because you're too stubborn to listen to me." Instead god says, "you may acquire male and female slaves." They can be your "property" and "a possession". Selling your daughters into slavery is okay, and they should never be set free, unlike male slaves. So, not only is god pro-slavery, he is sexist.It all reverts back to the assignment of free will to human beings. It therefore meant that it was ultimately up to human beings how they constructed their existence on Earth. This construction happened to involve the establishment of a social hierarchy amongst human beings themselves when the only hierarchy God ever intended for human beings was in relation to the whole of Creation (“having dominion over it”). As we know, the basis of such a hierarchy would be labour and determine the rich and the poor. Certain occupations were accorded on account of this and slavery happened to be the domain of the poor. It was not God’s ideal for this to happen, but He would allow it because of the benefit it would bring that individual under the circumstances; therefore this in itself would not be classified as a sin. What God cannot abide however, is injustice, hence why He would introduce rules to ensure that in spite of the framework everyone would be protected and would at least be able to enjoy a pleasant existence. Your attribution of sexism to God also does not hold; as I may also have mentioned before, women did not have the same authority as men in controlling society’s operation. A woman would fare far better if she were released with her husband than on her own (particularly in being a slave) which is why they were in need of greater protection than males. Under Mosaic Law, both male and female slaves had rights. Under other Laws (and Western rule centuries later), both male and female slaves had no rights whatsoever. The two are incomparable.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: I don't believe it.

try finding the passage talking about a person who commits sin being a slave to sin. That is the slavery you need to be concerned about. It's the enslavement that is taking you down in death to Hell and you need to be saved, you need to be set free, you need to be delivered from death into life everlasting.I could tell you where the passage is, but you claim to have read the Bible and I think you missed some things and you need to read it some more.....you quoted "God gave the over...."....the passage about being a slave to sin is beyond that chapter in Romans. Keep reading, and use the King James Bible only...other versions have changes that obscure God's word, His teaching. If you are using the Duay (spell check) Catholic Bible, apart from the Apocrypha it is close enough to the King James Bible to be acceptable for use in discussion.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: I don't believe it.

try finding the passage talking about a person who commits sin being a slave to sin. That is the slavery you need to be concerned about. It's the enslavement that is taking you down in death to Hell and you need to be saved, you need to be set free, you need to be delivered from death into life everlasting.I could tell you where the passage is, but you claim to have read the Bible and I think you missed some things and you need to read it some more.....you quoted "God gave the over...."....the passage about being a slave to sin is beyond that chapter in Romans. Keep reading, and use the King James Bible only...other versions have changes that obscure God's word, His teaching. If you are using the Duay (spell check) Catholic Bible, apart from the Apocrypha it is close enough to the King James Bible to be acceptable for use in discussion. Your whole old testament slavery argument is an argument of ignorance, not looking at the whole picture. The law in Exodus was given after God brought Israel out of Egypt and was preparing them to inherit the promised land and drive out, conquer, and/or destroy those inhabitants because of their evils for which God was judging them. God gave rules for servant/master relations which He knew were going to come as Israel took the land God promised them away from the inhabitants He was judging against. It was not the same things as modern slavery if modern slavers tried to justify themselves by it or not. God is always good and trying to say that because He allowed for master/servant contracts or forced servitude He is not good is a mistake that will land you in Hell trying to justify your own existence as a slave to your own sin.
Debate: God loves you.
Side: He died to save you from Hell.

You threw out God's rules a long time ago. You broke His law a long time ago, and you are trying to say everybody else did it so it's ok for you to do it. You sit there outside of Hell because God loves you so much He gives you time when you despise His rule, and you think His love will always hold His wrath back from you?
Debate: God loves you.
Side: I don't believe it.

"you are trying to say everybody else did it so it's ok for you to do it."No, I'm not saying that. I'm trying to point out the problem with Foxgloves response by showing her that if we apply the logic she is applying to slavery to other situations, then we would have to throw out all the other commandments that people break on a regular basis too.