azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: yes

Yes, but they should not to have to pay more per seat An obese person who is large enough to not fit comfortably in one seat should pay for a second adjoining seat. HOWEVER, current practices that limit that passenger to have to pay for a higher class seat (in economy class) is unfair. To book 2 seats for an overseas flight costs 2 people $1,300. To book 2 seats for 1 passenger costs $1,600. when flying any Star Alliance route and cannot be booked at lower internet fares. Tthe airlines have a lower net cost but discriminate against these people.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: yes

I agree that an obese person who cannot fit into one seat should have to pay for two to protect the comfort of other people. Since airplanes are designed to hold "regular" size people than an obese person who cannot comfortably or safely sit in a "regular" seat should have to pay for two. Until the day comes when there are specially designed seats or sections on planes to accommodate obese people then they should have to pay for two seats.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: yes

Yes, I think if obese people cannot show their obesity is related to any medical condition they should pay for two tickets. Obesity without any underlying medical condition is the result of plain laziness and greed on the individual's part. Just like if I decide to have a child it means I am willing to pay for his/her seat, so if you have decided to be obese, you should be ready to pay the price of any number of seats that you need to fly.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: yes

I agree that obese people should pay for two seats if they cannot fit into one seat. Obese people should be required to purchase two seats if they cannot fit into one seat without overlap into the passenger seats next to them. The reason for my belief is that it can be extremely uncomfortable to sit next to an obese person if they overlap into your seat.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: yes

I do agree that obese people should have to pay for two airline seats. With the weight limits on airplanes it is only expected that someone that weighs much more then the average person should have to pay for two tickets. If the plane is not able to take as many passengers with an obese passenger then they should somehow be compensated. Otherwise the airlines would just have to raise the price of the tickets for everyone to make sure there cost were covered just in case an obese passenger was booked for that flight.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: yes

Obese people should pay for two seats if they need extra room. I don't think this is a discrimination issue because essentially by asking obese people to pay for two tickets if they take up the space of two people, you are just requiring them to pay for the level of service they require. It is the same as charging for two plates of food (as long as it isn't an all you can eat buffet!) Thus, it is not a matter of prejudice or unfair treatment.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: yes

I agree with frenchieak, you have to pay for it if you take it up. There was a woman who got a hemorrage and a cracked rib on an airline by being crushed by an obese woman sitting next to her.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: yes

Heack yes! I'm obese but no where near a 300 pounder. If you take up two seats on a friggin plane you should pay extra! You can't argue with that. Full price too!
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: yes

The answer is clearly yes. You pay more for excess baggage so why should there not be an excess fee on an individual as it costs more to transport them. Additionally why should those under 90Kg be inconvenienced when those, who shall we say are larger than they need to be, invade their seat space. If someone takes more than an allocated seat space they need to be charged for two seats so that those of average size can travel within the allocated space and not be made to feel uncomfortable. Come on fatties pay your way.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: Yes

I recently experienced a very uncomfortable trip on an airplane flight on Delta sitting next to a very obese person. I could not move . literally my arms were scrunched up in the same position for 2hrs. I tried to sleep but there was no wiggle room for me at all . I just had to sit there and do nothing for2 hours . iI was too embarrassed to really say anything about it so I didn't
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: Yes

Thin people shouln't have to suffer because of what obese people did to their bodies
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: Yes

If you take up 2 seats you should pay for 2 seats.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: Yes

If he needs two seats to fit on, the yes, if not, then no.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: Yes

if they're capable of taking up the space of two people then they must take 2 airline seats. its not fair for the passengers travelling beside them to be squished flat for 2 days straight.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

I do however think ALL children should be in a paid seat. Children sitting on a parent's lap on a flight invade adjacent seats more than someone overweight. Feet, food and toys fly, the children scream as they wiggle and move around. If you want to charge for overweight people, charge for every single child on a plane too.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: Yes

they do.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

It would be pretty hard to tell don't you think?What about a 275 lbs 6ft 9 pure muscle linebacker for some college? You cannot really go by weight. But then again I guess when you are buying your ticket online the company could ask questions like: Are you a fat ass? Are you thinking about food right now? Do you have trouble sitting in the movie theater seats?I think it is impossible to tell if somebody is obese just by weight. So how could they tell?
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

one of the more sensible posts on this side.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: Yes

BMI, or waist measurement.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: yes

Like freanchieak pointed out passengers are paying for the flight and not for the seats. So it is not right that they pay for the two airline seats, unless they occupy the other one. Well, that is up to the airline policy. But I have never heard of anyone being ask to pay for the extra plane seats.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

if they can fit they don't need to buy to airline tickets
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

with airlines making the seats smaller and cramming more people in I think it's rude that it is even suggested. Seeing as they even have people sitting in the emergency exit seats now I find this ridiculous. What happens if the people sitting near the exit panics. They're allready sucking in every penny they can get. some plane seats dont even accomodate an average person adequately. And seeing as the obesity rate in the USA is so high this would mean every second ticket has to pay double if its done on the standard obesity weight.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: yes

Well then people that are to fat to fit in one seat and to cheap or proud to pay for a second one can swim to their different oversea destinations.There you go, two problems solved: no more obesity and no one has to pay for a second seat
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

I'll post here since it's empty.But my response is neither. It should depend on the Airline company that gives out the tickets. If they want to charge extra, then go ahead, if they don't, then don't.this is America the Free.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

Society or human society is the manner or condition in which the members of a community live together for their mutual benefit. By extension, society denotes the people of a region or country, sometimes even the world, taken as a whole
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

I agree with you. But do you think it'd be fair for someone who is born bigger than everyone else (e.g big boned) to pay extra to travel?
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: yes

Depends what you think you're paying for. From a consumers perspective, you're paying to get from point A to point B. From a producers perspective, you're giving them a seat for a certain period of time. You can argue from either perspective, both have aspects of truth, but I would lean towards paying for what you get.Also, studies have shown that the percentage of obese people that couldn't lose weight are very small, some say as low as 2%. Ever wonder why there are no fat people in rural India, or another similarly impoverished area?
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

Well if i were the one paying for my plane tickets, i'm paying for everything the trip has to offer. The food, the service, the seat, the entertainment etc. Paying for what i get.Yes I have wondered, and I've seen it. I've been to India. But i'm not talking about obese people who eat more because they want to having to pay extra. I'm talking about whether or not it's fair for someone who was born with a specific gene disorder something which they can't change. They can't help but be bigger than the rest of the world right?So do you think it's fair for those people to have to pay more for something they have no control over?
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: yes

I would discriminate against that small minority rather than force everyone sitting next to an obese person so be squished (a number roughly equal to 2 x 98%, or 98 x bigger). Or, create a system where people can be tested, and have a form they show at check in to get the money back for one of their seats.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: how obese

Well first off, I agree with thepyg. So what exactly would the weight limit be? Because I'm pretty sure that being obese and taking up more than one seat is not exactly the same thing. I don't think a person should have to pay for two seats because they make someone els feel uncomfortable. Unless they would apply that to everybody. Lets charge the loud and annoying people for two seats because who wants to sit by them?But if the person is so obese that they are taking up a seat and a half then yeah, that is the only good option I can think of. It just depends on how obese the person is. But it's up to the airline of course.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

No. This is a very not good debate. As said by someone above, what if an obese person read this? They will be hurt , won't they? And human are all the same. whether they are obese or not, they are still one and they should not be charged more...
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

This is so rude...That's why thin people think they rule the world just because of they're body weight...I'm an overweight person myself and I'm about to make a trip next month and I'm just so scare of having this type of problems on my day of trip, If somebody here knows if this is really happening just comment on this....Plane tickets are most expensive, and paying for two is a disaster for our traveling budget.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: yes

Its not right that a airline has to give up a paying seat because you are over weight. They make money perseat mile , why should others suffer for YOUR PROBLEMS!!
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

WHY SHOULD OTHERS SUFFER FOR YOUR PROBLEMS? YOU DONT SEEM LIKE A VERY SMART PERSON. IF SOMEONE IN YOUR FAMILY WAS OBESE AND THE AIRLINE LADY CAME AND SAID"EXCUSE ME YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO PURCHASE ANOTHER SEAT" WOULD YOU LIKE THAT? HELL NO BITCH I BET YOU WOULDNT BUT IF IT WASNT A PERSON IN YOUR FAMILY YOU WOULD BE COMPLAINING AND COMPLAINING BUT IF THE PEROSN WAS I NYOUR FAMILY YOUR RUDE MUTHERFUCKING BITCH ASS WOULD SAY"NO IM FINE IT'S NOT BOTHERING ME"
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: Yes

I am sorry, but you are the one who does not sound like a smart person. If I were obese and were asked to purchase another seat, I wouldn't like it and probably be very upset. Me not liking it or being upset, however, has absolutely no relevance to whose problem this whole situation is (mine) and whether others should suffer/be inconvenienced (they should not). While it very well might be that your emotions have taken over and are making you sound dumb, the bottom line is you sound dumb and the cause of you sounding dumb is not that relevant;) Thanks.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: yes

If you lose weight then you'll be saving money on food AND on airplane seats. Think about it.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

I'm a big person and I went to a concert about two years ago in Dallas...I listened to my fiance brag about how upscale the arena was till we went to sit down...He's not obese like I am, but even he had a mildly hard time squeezing into their very uncomfortable "tiny" seats...I questioned why would such an "upscale" arena have such miserable seating...the answer is simple, quality no longer matters, it's about money, "quantity"...if you make the seats smaller, they make more money as equals more people...it don't matter if you fat or thin or whether or not their seats are fit for a mouse, it's all about the money...all a fat person has become is someone elses profit, nevermind that they are human too...we get to pay more for the same right, because the greed of quantity vs. quality...you wouldn't see these problems back in the day when they made things worth a dam and big enough for "everyone". Better to have enough and not need it, then not have enough at all! If airline tickets are as greedy as everyone else, I'll just refuse to fly and drive to my destination! In other words, kiss my FAT *ss honey! We are expected to accept all colors of the face of the earth without racism and that card gets played plenty! But what about all sizes? At this rate all future seats will be measured by using that a five year old child to be considered for average space between the width of one side of our asses to the other...and either you'll fit or you won't! The "love" of money is the route of all evil! as proven by the world in which we live...
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

No, they should not. Instead, airlines and other industries should have a little class. In cases where the number of seats being sold is business-profitability threatening, then, perhaps an argument could be made, but even still, I believe that when a ticket is being sold to someone who is over the size limit for one seat, it should go something like this:1) Do you require more than one seat due to body size or other rationale? (Warning, answering incorrectly may result in your being forced onto a different flight to the same destination) ... example seats should be made available out front, similar to how amusement park rides often do.2) Would you like to purchase a second ticket to guarantee your departure on this flight, or wait for the next flight to this destination with an empty seat available? (Answering yes may delay your flight departure time by up to 24 hours).This way, you don't simply mandate from on high a very rude policy, you instead offer the person in question a way to fly at the same price as everyone else, but the inconvenience of waiting extra time is shoved onto them instead of them shoving parts of themselves into other paying customer's seats.This is a solid compromise with easily solvable logistics. One must remember that this wouldn't be an issue if it hadn't been for the greed of trying to cram so many people onto the planes to begin with. I don't want to hear any arguments about failing airline industry, either, that's gross mis-management to cut your CEOs and other top execs 20 mil+ benefits each year for 30 years and then suddenly wonder where all the cash went. You invested it in some guy's mansion/boats/personal jets instead of back in your business where it belonged.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: yes

Are you kidding me??? Have you ever seen a profitable airline? Of course you have to pay for the service render to you , if you take up two god damn seats then pay for two god damn seats . I have worked for a airline for the last 10 years and I NEVER know if I am going to have a job next week because EVEY airline is ALWAYS LOSING MONEY!!!!!
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

One person, one fare!Most flights I have been on have not been at full capacity. Therefore there is no reason why an obese person cannot book two seats next to one another (as a matter of necessity) but still pay a single fare (because they ARE just one person, at the end of the day). However, with flights that ARE full capacity then I suppose the airline can choose to charge them double or perhaps 50%-75% of the second seat, as a matter of their own policy.Read about how Air France dealt with it:http://www.news.com.au/travel/news/air-france-forces-obese-people-to-pay-nearly-double/story-e6frfq80-1225821563654
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

I thought that this was a bit of a gem:I feel really strongly that, if you pay for an airline ticket, it’s not fair to have to share the seat with a fat person sitting beside you. Why should one person’s right to be fat be allowed to infringe on your right to use all of your seat space? If someone is so fat that their body doesn’t fit on one seat, they should have to pay for the extra space they take. But I don’t think the solution is larger seats for fat people. Why should airlines pay for the cost of putting in bigger seats? If they did this, they would be saying that it’s OK to be fat, and this just makes things worse. Basically she's saying that if you're big enough to lean into her, or inconvenience her space, you should be forced to pay double for space you wouldn't be using.I consider it a part of being a respectful human being that we put up with the little difficulties of one another each day. We couldn't exist together if everyone felt it was their right to not be inconvenienced for the sake of others. For example, I can't stand whiny kids and babies at grocery markets and just about any public place. I wouldn't dream of telling the mother, however, to "Shut that little bastard's face up before I muzzle him."But of course, if women like her ever get their way then I propose we force her to pay for two seats as well, because while we're on the the course towards a society that is self-entitled, I feel that her presence as a condescending, pompous ass is severely inconvenient towards my ability to enjoy the flight. Perhaps more-so than the two fat people on either side of me.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: yes

What the hell that the most retarded argument ever, its being a respectful human being to up with little difficulties? That's a bid difficulty fat people can lose weight stop complaining exercise and properly and you won't be fat! A baby on the other can't help but cry they can't say what they want so they cry, don't say crying babies are an inconvenience your fat ass however is!
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

I honestly cannot believe all this hostility toward obese people. I am a diabetic and gained weight when I first was diagnosed. I was able to work hard and lose the excess weight over time. To assume that these overweight people are just lazy and overeaters is an ignorant discrimination. How do you know they don't have a physical defect that causes the excess weight gain? You can't just say they are being selfish for wanting to take an airplane to their destination just like everyone else.They should NOT have to buy 2 seats. I agree that it would be uncomfortable to have an overweight person in the seat next to you, but no more so then getting stuck in rush hour traffic or getting the wrong flavor cream in your coffee. I think its a bit pompous to think they should pay double just for being overweight.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: yes

They should NOT have to buy 2 seats. I agree that it would be uncomfortable to have an overweight person in the seat next to youWhat if they were taking up both seats?
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

No, have you ever seen the size of those seats? they are not made for a normal ass or should I say for someone with an ass. It's just not fair
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

Canadian Standard Since 2008 it is the law in Canada - one person - one ticket - zero discrimination. And guess what - We are making profits on our airlines! On another site I saw people compare the shipping of boxes to passengers who are large.. declaring that heavy boxes mean you pay more. Good grief - how cold is that. And just an fyi - I weigh 112 pounds so this is not something I personally benefit from.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: Yes

Cold indeed! Poor heavy boxes have to pay more while their human equivalents get a free ride! How unjust!
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

Though uncomfortable for others, there is no clear way to draw the line where fat becomes "too fat," Everyone with an open seat next to them prays the seat next to them will be empty and cringe when an extra large person walks down the aisle, hoping that person will not sit next to them. Though it makes it uncomfortable for both the large person and those sitting around them, there is no defined, objective means to determine who needs to purchase the extra ticket. As an alternative, airlines should offer larger seats at an extra cost for those too heavy to fit in a standard seat. This alternative would take the discomfort out of flying for those that may just be giant people by nature, including tall and muscular, not just the obese.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: Yes

Most airlines do offer bigger seats, they are called first and business class.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

So what you're saying is that because a peron is big, they should have no other choice but to buy a first class or business class ticket. That is the most stupid shit I've ever herd. Its discrimination and the last time I checked discriomination was illegal.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

I'm opposed to an obese person paying two full fares for airline travel as airlines should accommodate a wide variety of travelers. Handicapped people don't pay for special considerations and neither should the obese. I do however support a larger seat section at a slightly increased fare but we all know the world isn't a one size fits all place and the obese shouldn't be penalized for it.
Debate: Should Obese People Pay For Two Airline Seats?
Side: No

I don't think it's fair for an obese person to pay for two airline seats as it's unnecessary and embarrassing to them. I am a very slim person myself but I have some family members who are slightly overweight (but not obese), and I would be mortified for them if they were told they would have to pay for an extra seat. What if someone had bad breath or gas? These people should be left to enjoy their flight in peace.