Debate: Creationism vs. Evolutionism
Side: creationism

Ok, I wrote out a huge dispute but pressed a button and it all disappeared, so this is going to be rather brief, but I will answer your entire post. First off, I think my opening point was that you sent me a bunch of links stating x amount of time then providing no evidence for the time period listed. Their opening statements such as "... which was 46 billion years ago has ..." is of no use to me as that is focusing on WHAT existed 46 billion years ago and not focusing on the evidence to support such a statement. Please list links that supply useful factual evidence to support the time period given. Here is the passage about sea monsters: "God created the great sea monsters and every living creature that moves, with which the waters swarmed after their kind, and every winged bird after its kind; and God saw that it was good" Genesis 1:21. As for your statement "It seems to me that God couldn't have made humans in "the beginning" if dinosaurs existed millions of years before us..." is irrelevant as it is YOUR belief that dinosaurs existed millions of years before us therefore without evidence, your statement is worth nothing. As for the "discrepancies" I must confess I was rather looking forward to something a little more challenging, but their argument is so obviously flawed and rather a waste of time. However, it obviously isn't viewed that way to some, so I will correct their arguments with reasoning, logic and fact - something that they chose to chuck out the window. I will only include a few as there appear to be so many which are every one of them flawed and (their lack of logic actually astounds me)."How many God's are there?" - I choose to put this one first as it is, in my opinion, the most stupid mistake they made. "And God said, let us make man in our image" - the site obviously have not been introduced to what God actually is - Father, Son and Holy Spirit - The Trinity. God is three divine Persons, therefore "us" refers to the three divine Persons. That in itself is enough explanation for the list of verses they blindly included below this one. Something that I did find amusing is that they actually included this verse last: "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one." They even included that which refutes their whole argument! I think I can understand why they included it last ... As for the verses that speak about the god's of Israel, these are referring to the idols that the Israelites created such as the golden calf which Moses (a servant of God) broke and burned to the ground. Second argument: "When was Eve created?" - Again, they make an obvious blunder; both verses clearly state that Eve was created second. "God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them". This verse is one of many short summary's that provide little detail due to the extensive detail Moses listed elsewhere. The 'opposing' verse they included was "And Adam gave names to all cattle, and to the fowl of the air, and to every beast of the field; but for Adam there was not found an help meet for him. And the LORD God caused a deep sleep to fall upon Adam, and he slept: and he took one of his ribs, and closed up the flesh instead thereof; And the rib, which the LORD God had taken from man, made he a woman, and brought her unto the man." Again, Eve was created second, but this verse describes the event in much more detail. Third argument: "Does God respect a person?" Again, obvious faults: The verses given to show that God does respect man are all OT, and the verses that show that God does not respect man are NT, bar the top one which does not even use the word respect. What does this say? The NT is the time and after the time that God sent His only Son who was rejected and crucified, the OT is the time before God sent His only Son. Major differences here, which are self-explanatory. Fourth argument: "What is the human lifespan?" The 'opposing' verse again is very obvious; "Yet his days..." ; there is an obvious "yet" which implies that although there is a shorter lifespan (70), the days shall be 120.., hence the reason it didn't just say 'and his days will be' – which would infer it to be the ‘normal’ lifespan - it is "yet his days will be". Fifth argument (last argument, if you want more, just holler): "Who created the heavens and the earth?" Ahh this one made me smile. The two arguments were a) "God" and b) "God and Jesus". Wow, they really haven't heard of the Trinity have they? The two are one, including the Holy Spirit which makes it three. Furthermore, their 'opposing' argument in no way supported its cause. The two verses were in relation to a completely different subject.It really was quite an experience reading the so-called "discrepancies" which I have heard so much about from atheists. A part of me guessed that the discrepancies would be very obviously flawed (which they were) but still, it was rather amusing. "take a look through the many contradictions in genesis alone, don't shy away just because it is most likely a biased site but actually look at the evidence presented, if you have any problem with these points please feel free to let me know"Well, I certainly did not shy away, nor did I even notice the title of the site, and yes I did find every argument that I clicked on to be flawed. I studied the evidence presented and read passages from the bible (the before and after verses of the provided) and thus I have come to the conclusion that the site wasted too much of my time.The link you gave me that supposedly tells a scientific story of how the world came about was typed in miniscule writing and I could not even find the theory or the pages you suggested I read. Is there a link on that link I am supposed to find? There was a page finder at the top so I fast forwarded to page three and I got a list of staff. Not sure what I am meant to be looking at..."I wouldn't say i have such wilful ignorance, i was raised catholic, went to church, read the bible many times over, and I also learned to question what I was told, think for myself and find real substantive answers with evidential support to the questions i had. The bible does have some great values for ways to live your life, but it is not a history textbook, nor a biology one. I have examined all sides of the argument and have no hesitation in expressing my support on the side of science. I look at the world, learn what I can and make my theories and views of the world upon that. I don't try to twist the world to adhere to a 2000 year old text from the people who thought the world was flat. I've done my research, but I can admit i will never understand the universe 100% and I am not willing to stop looking for answers to life, and I would rather die not knowing something, than make an answer up to satisfy my curiosity"Well, nor am I wilfully ignorant. I love to learn new things and never "shy away" from the scriptures as I know they are true. Many Christians that became atheists say they read their bibles and discovered "discrepancies" thus becoming an atheist. It is these people I have no respect for due to their obvious lack of faith that they had (or rather, didn't have!), their obvious non-existent relationship with God, who is the centre of my faith and any other true Christian's faith, and finally the lack of time they put into their relationship with God as opposed to the time they put into seeking out faults in His Word. Of course, there are some who stopped believing for various other reasons, and those people I do not have anything against. I too have done my research and I have to say the most interesting, obviously true, meaningful and best-spent timed research I ever found was between the front and back covers of my bible. Of course, everyone differs here; some may have a scientific textbook that they find to be meaningful and obviously true, others may find the words of a specific scientist to be meaningful and obviously true, but I personally find the Word of God to be the most reliant account of how this world began. P.S. You are the most decent person I have debated with yet.