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Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

I don't think you understand how correct this paragraph is. I'm always posting libertarian things like this around CD. Keep fighting!
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

Very few drugs should be illegal or restricted. 1. It restricts non-drug related production from what ever the plant or fungi is derived from. This creates less efficient product development, more waste, etc. 2. It imposes cultural values of one group onto another, even if there is little to no health risks if handled by the cultural standards of the group being imposed on. 3. Standards and regulation of delivery systems can more effectively handle for public health risks. 4. The black market restricts resources for addicts to become clean on the "white" market. 5. The government Treating all cases of illegal drug possession or consumption as a criminal act isn't as effective as alternatives when it comes to economic, public health, freedom, etc. Prisons are not rehab centers. 6. Adolescences is a modern invention, we treat people in their early twenties like they are incapable of making good decisions, and we underestimate the ability of our children, who often act how they are expected to act. If given accurate information, most can make a well informed decision. Thus alcohol, cannabis,some mushrooms, and so on should be legal and with few restrictions. Tobacco however needs more restriction, but should stay legal. 1. It has very few uses other than as a drug, mainly being ornamental or a host for bio-engineering. 2. The cultural standards used in many areas are inadequate to effectively handle it's risks. Which leads to my suggestion in number 3. 3. Subsidizing hookahs and taxing the hell out of pre-rolled cigarettes and similar would reduce various health concerns. 4. Well Its doubtful cigarettes would be a viable black market drug after a few generations pass under it's ban, it not being illegal allows for the sell, marketing, and supply of various resources to help with addiction. 6. Teens are currently decreasing their tobacco use.If tobacco had more regulation on it's production and delivery systems then the age of licence could be lowered with little worry of an increase in health concerns. However, At the same time number 4 makes me wonder if the cost of the initial first 3 or so generations of having it illegal would be worth the long time benefits. I suppose i'm a bit on the fence about tobacco.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

At 18 years old you are offically a adult so why do you have to wait 3 more years to drink beer? I think smoking is stupid and if you can controll how much you drink its not that bad.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

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Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

Drinking yes. An early introduction gets them used to it. So when teens are older, they don't go out buying the first tonne of vodka they can!
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: NO

Or they develop an addiction or a habit early on .
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

Yepp Pr develop an addiction later on. With parental guidance, children listen to adults. So if the adults say "that's enough" they'll listen. If the adult says "that's enough" to an 18 year old, then they'll burst out "fuck you i'm old enough to decide" then get completely pissed.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

Depends how the child was raised .
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: NO

And yet you call me a sick psychopath for encouraging responsible smoking?
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

You're encouraging smoking, thats it. Its not how you smoke, point is your encouraging it.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: NO

No I'm not, but this is irrelevant, so meh .
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

Ah screw you man i thought i could reason with you, but no you still think that asking is a good thing. Its like shooting people "Oh its ok if you shoot them responsibly" would you say that, no. But smoking is killing people. I am not going to argue with you anymore, because all you seem to do is qupote people and say "this is wrong" you have no argument of your won, there is no justification for smoking and apparently i can't remember if it was you or someone else, you've said so much bullshit, but someones point said that smoking is cool. Which i see as a stupid thing to say; it's not cool to kill yourself, why should being cool be any part of this. Smoking in any form is bad. in ANY form, and oyu must accept that we're not living in the 60's anymore.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: NO

Ah screw you manWhy you heff to be mad?but no you still think that asking is a good thing.Asking? What are you on about?Its like shooting people "Oh its ok if you shoot them responsibly" would you say that, no.Did you actually read my rebuttal? In fact, have you read a SINGLE WORD of what I've been saying?But smoking is killing people. Yes, the smoker, the person doing the smoking. Thus it is his choice, and not ours, to do so.because all you seem to do is qupote people and say "this is wrong"It's called "debate", you should learn how to sometime. you have no argument of your won,OK, because I'm far nicer than you, I am going to once again summarize my argument into a handy dandy paragraph.I do not encourage smoking myself. Having personally witnessed the devastating effects of long term use, I agree that they are a detriment to humanity. However, I support the freedom of the individual, and the freedom of choice. Stripping away these two basic freedoms makes our society no more than a group of dogs and masters. Couple that with the fact that the war on drugs has caused so much death, yet increased drug use, and one must arrive to the conclusion that prohibiting ANYTHING is a negative.Now, if nothing else, please rebut THAT paragraph.you've said so much bullshitWhat have I said that is bullshit?but someones point said that smoking is cool.Ah, I believe that was Garry. And, having reread his argument, he wasn't saying that. He was saying that smoking is an effective ice breaker to social barriers, which makes it very useful in group situations. I'm sure he'll correct me if I'm wrong though.it's not cool to kill yourselfJust to point out: Smoking ≠ Suicide. Smoking in any form is bad. OK, I believe I've found the crux of your argument, which was difficult. Luckily, it's weak. But first, I need to ask a question.Do you believe that ALL bad things should be banned?
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

Do i believe all bad things should be banned? Well, things like chairs can be seen as bad-lazy. Things like bottled water can be bad-less nutrients. But these things don't drastically alter our lives. Something that can shorten your life by 20+ years, yes, they should be banned. I know no one else who thinks the way i do, so am not surprised no one understands. But there was a time before mass settlements, banks and fast food joints. A time when man was a hunter, and lived in small villages. Of course the health care back then was terrible, but we can introduce a bette rhealth care, without all the obese fat people from bad foods. No i haven't read the mojourity, you seem to sum up all of what you say in your conclusions. I know what i have written, so i don't bother reading the quotes. Smoking, is bad, in so many ways, and i want to stop this. How can you object, disregarding anything else that has been previously said, but how can you object to the fact that i would like to help people by banning smoking. And, you would like to keep smoking, thus harming people?? I see no logic sir, i have tried to converse with you in as many ways i know possible, but you think that smoking should be allowed? Again, no logic, no justification.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: NO

Something that can shorten your life by 20+ years, yes, they should be banned.So should meat be banned?I know no one else who thinks the way i do, so am not surprised no one understands. Don't kid yourself, this style of thinking is ten a penny. I've already rebutted 3 people just like you in this debate alone.But there was a time before mass settlements, banks and fast food joints. A time when man was a hunter, and lived in small villages.Where are you going with this?but we can introduce a bette rhealth care, without all the obese fat people from bad foodsWhat are you proposing, faticide?No i haven't read the mojourity, you seem to sum up all of what you say in your conclusionsThat explains why you're incapable of rebutting my points, and just go on rambling tirades. I know what i have written, so i don't bother reading the quotesAre you actually saying that you don't bother to read what I'm rebutting?  How can you object, disregarding anything else that has been previously said, but how can you object to the fact that i would like to help people by banning smokingSimple. It wouldn't help. For the.. 4th(?) time, look at the war on drugs. Hundreds, if not thousands of people dead, the taxpayer is charged millions, and the use of drugs increases. All because people tried to ban drugs.You would see a similar thing if you banned smoking.And, you would like to keep smoking, thus harming people??No, I would love to see smoking disappear forever. But, I support the CHOICE to smoke, not smoking itself.I see no logic sir, i have tried to converse with you in as many ways i know possible, but you think that smoking should be allowed? Again, no logic, no justification.OK. Please read what I have said, then you may just find something. 'Cos it's kinda difficult to find logic and justification if you DON'T FUCKING READ MY ARGUMENTS!
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

Sir, meat is not bad for you, if you look at the design of the human stomach you would see that, we are designed to eat meat. Far too larger quantities yes, buit just a single ciggie can take years off your life. And you say i need to calm down, take a look in the mirror.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: NO

if you look at the design of the human stomach you would see that, we are designed to eat meatAh, you really have no idea what you're talking about, do you? buit just a single ciggie can take years off your life.This is false. One cigarette is about as harmful as one hug.And you say i need to calm down, take a look in the mirror.I'm perfectly calm, the use of bold text and caps is to try and grab your constantly wandering attention.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: NO

This is false. One cigarette is about as harmful as one hug.Shhh. You might shatter opinions founded on scare-tactic propaganda.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

The government should be the decider on what's appropriate for individuals and children when it comes to substance use. I drank with my family since I was 16, and a member of my family drank red wine every day since she was 8 only to live to be 102.People, believe it or not, are not retards. While some of them will let their children do w/e they want, most of them discipline their kids. asking government to help discipline the kids is nonsense.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

Yea, I think this would be good for alcohol, but not cigarettes. When I say good, I mean good for teaching young adults how to handle alcohol. For cigarettes, I think they should keep the age limits. Of course, i am referring to the age limits in IL. I am not sure of all the rest of the states.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

Yes, it should be lowered to 18. No lower than that though.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

And so should the age for toking and tripping.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

I am choosing "yes" for only one reason. In my book, if you are old enough to go to war, you are old enough to have a beer. In other words, if you are serving and are below 21, you should be served. Cigarette smoking at 18 sounds about right for me. You are an adult. Smoke away I say, if that's your thing. 18 year olds make for idiotic drunks that get people hurt. I was one of them a long time ago, so I speak from experience. All of these are just MY opinions, though.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

Smoking no 18 is fair enough, the legal age for many things including going to fight and die for your country, take another persons life, and watch your friends get killed right before your eyes. But you can't have a beer in that same country? tell me how you can be to young for one and just the right age for the other
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

They had might as well anyway the amount of young people smoking and drinking under age nowadays is insane, I don't care much for smoking all I know it's a way to slowly kill yourself. Alcohol I suppose could be OK in small amounts though.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

I'm 15, I get pissed every weekend, and regularly smoke tobacco and occasionally weed. I'm also a straight A student with an IQ of 145. I know that cigarettes and alcohol harm me, but the benefits greatly outweigh the disadvantages. Why spend your entire life worrying about your health, and then die anyway?People can make their own decisions, let them.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

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Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

The drinking age is already 18 here in Australia, jealous? ;)Haha, seriously though, yes it should be infact lowered in the states, for pretty much the same reason as everyone else has already stated.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: NO

No im sertainly not 'jealous' .. I feel sorry for you.But looking at the avarage health in australia and in the states, australia is much healthier than americans.But I seriously doubt its the cigarettes that are doing the trick. I think its because americans have so many obese people.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

Why would you feel sorry for me......?Yep, you're definitely a Republican. That answers it all.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: NO

No Im not a republician..Im not from the states, if you think I am.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

It's 18 here too, but that doesn't change the fact that those below 18 as low as 14 don't make "parties". The point of those "parties" is drinking, and... that also leads to other things, like going fat for 9 months. The age limit by law says nothing, until they are caught, of course, and captured...Where they get drinks? The just turned 18 buy them.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

Its also very easy to steal alcohol, or to buy it underage yourself, of just have it given to you. :) It is easier to acquire cannabis than alcohol though.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: NO

It is easier to acquire cannabis than alcohol thoughAnd you know this how? O.o
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: NO

i strongly feel age for smoking and drinking should not be lowered down as it can disturb the hormonal balance of the body!it can adverse impact on the minds of the youth. we all are aware of its other harmful diseases caused by these.+speaking from a teens mind it would take away the fun of sneaking and breaking rules. So from both sides i think the age bar of 21 for smoking and drinking is perfectly fine.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

So can getting drafted/going to war. Yet our government would see that happen at 18. Which one has more potential to mess with your body and mind, alcohol and cigarettes or explosives and bullets? When you're legally considered an adult you should be able to make health choices for yourself. If you want to raise the age one is considered an adult to 21 that's a different matter, but you'd also be pushing back the age one could fight in a war or get called into jury service.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: NO

When you're legally considered an adult you should be able to make health choices for yourself.Being legally an adult is not the same as being mentally adult. And 18-year old can easily be mentally a child, I've seen that plenty.If you want to raise the age one is considered an adult to 21 that's a different matter, but you'd also be pushing back the age one could fight in a war or get called into jury service.Fighting a war is a good thing? Since when? The only people who are really "fighting" (its actually more like a family dispute but whatever) are the ones running the sides, the mentally children "politicians" and whatnot. The ones carrying and using guns are just toys. Do people, the ones who do the killing, start wars? No.Jury? Don't know exactly what it is but what I have seen and heard is extremely stupid. Unless the jurors or whoever they are are professionals, someone who have learnt it.If anything raising the par will give people more time to actually grow up (with current ways it is rather necessary), not just physically but what really matters - mentally. Especially in the US, the education there sucks so bad, and it does influence one's mental growing up.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

And yet ALLOT of people much younger then 21 Drink. ALLOT of people 21 will go buy the alcoholic drinks so the minors can drink them. so this age 21 thing is really stupid cause like i said minors still get hold to alcoholic beverages. and I'm 17 so of coarse i know what I'm talking about. if its not gonna work overall then its useless.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: NO

So 21 year old's don't have enough self control to stop from giving liquor to highschoolers. imagine if you gave a bunch of high schoolers the ability to legally buy and drink alcohol, who would they give it to? As much as the law is broken, its still breaking a law so it still limits the number of kids who drink, albeit not as completely as one would hope.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

Thats the thing, it doesn't work. kids still smoke and drink so you disputing me is kinda stupid. yes it may encourage more minors to drink but what about the millions that already do? seems kinda allot to me
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: NO

I understand that there are already millions of minors that drink, but if you allow 18 year olds to drink it makes liquor more readily available to even younger kids. Just because someone breaks a law doesn't mean the law is a bad one. The fact of the matter is that studies show liquor has adverse effects on minor's minds and making it legal for 18 year olds would be stupid to the highest degree. The fact of the matter is that by lowering the drinking age MORE kids under 21 would be drinking and damaging their minds.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: NO

To lower or not, that isn't gonna change anything. Kids will still smoke.But no, I think to lower it could encourage more kids to start, and thinking its not so bad afterall.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: NO

Put it this way, do you want to walk outside to see a gang of 5 year olds smoking a joint with vodka stuffed down their hipster trousers?
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: NO

Since everyone who are on the 'Yes' side say that its a persons choice wether or not to smoke, im gonna tell you a few thing about tobacco.I think you all have heard about lung cancer right? And I also think you're tired of hearing about that. So Im not gonna tell you about lung cancer, cause Im well awared of that you already know about that.Afterall, lung cancer isn't that bad. You either survive, or you die peacefully without pain.Some people say, that you're gonna die anyway, so why not smoke?I'll tell you why.Have you ever heard of a disease called COL? It stands for chronic obstructiv lung disease.You can get COL without smoking, but 9 out of 10 patients with COL are smokers.And more than 1 out of 3 of smokers gets this disease.I guess you're aware of, since the name say 'chronic' , that this is unhealable.COL makes you unable to breath out.You can breath in just fine, but at some point your lungs are full, and you need to get the unnessecary air out of your longs. Those muscles in your lungs that push your lungs together, to get the air out, dosen't work.Simply your have to push the air out every single day, everytime you breath.You think this is nothing?Try for only one minut, push the air out everytime you breath, with all the power you have. Try it.Its exhausting right?Imagine doing that everyday, everytime you breath, it will feal like someone is strangleing you.That is only one of 100eds of diseases you can get from smoking.Its in the law, that its illegal to poison a person. Tobacco and alchohol is pure poison. I don't understand why its on the market.To have a high age limit for cigarettes and drinking will not stop teenagers from smoking or drinking, Im well aware of that.But to lower the age will encourage the kids to think, it isn't so bad after all, it'll do nothing good. Tell me one reason what lowering the age is good for?
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

But to lower the age will encourage the kids to think, it isn't so bad after all, it'll do nothing good. Tell me one reason what lowering the age is good for?it'd be good cause like we all know minors are gonna smoke regardless.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: NO

I don't know if that was sarcastic, or I just didn't understand this message.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: yes

the message is even with the age limit at 21 minors still smoke and drink and always will. no government can stop them.
Debate: Should the age for smoking and drinking be lowered down?
Side: NO

Then the government should do something about that.If minors smoke, then they're breaking the law.If people are gonna murder even if it's illegal, should we just remove the law, or make the punishment for murder less .. i don't know.. punishy?No you shouldn't. If kids are breaking the law, then do something about that.