azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

...Is this ellipsis designed to frighten me somehow?Its small minded to think that i do not accept that people should have control over their own bodies.I should like to know how one can respect a person's moral right to control their own body and yet consider financial dependence a mitigating factor. If being financially dependent upon somebody annuls that right, then childhood constitutes slavery.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

I've got a form of birth control way more effective than the pill. It's called: Abortion.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

"It's called: Abortion."XD Heard that! You're pretty funny.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: Yes they should.

Abortion shouldn't be used as birth control. No matter what people say, it's killing life (or killing potential life, which is generally the same thing). If you're dumb enough to have unprotected sex, you deserve to have a kid.And why shouldn't parents put their kids on BC? If you're not old enough to drive, smoke, drink (different topic[1]) vote, go to war, or buy pronography, you're not old enough to either have a child or have an abortion.But, in the end, none of our opinions matter, because it's ultimately up to your PARENTS to decide. That's the point of having parents. It may seem tedious for a while, but, in your early teens, you really shouldn't be taking care of yourself yet. -----[1] Judging by other laws, legal drinking age should be dropped down to 18 (you're old enough to poison your lungs and poison your mind, why not poison your liver while you're at it?)
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

If you're dumb enough to have unprotected sex, you deserve to have a kid.Surprise! Not only stupid sluts find themselves unintentionally pregnant. http://www.prochoice.org/about_abortion/ facts/women_who.html "Each year, almost half of all pregnancies among American women are unintended.1 About half of these unplanned pregnancies, 1.3 million each year, are ended by abortion.There are many myths and misconceptions about who gets abortions, and why. The fact is that the women who have abortions come from all racial, ethnic, socioeconomic, and religious backgrounds. If current rates continue, it is estimated that 35% of all women of reproductive age in America today will have had an abortion by the time they reach the age of 45."Also, pregnancy and childbirth should not be a form of punishment.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: Yes they should.

"Each year, almost half of all pregnancies among American women are unintended.1 About half of these unplanned pregnancies, 1.3 million each year, are ended by abortion."I'd say a 'stupid slut' getting pregnant would qualify as 'unintended', so that really proves no point. There are many myths and misconceptions about who gets abortions, and why. The fact is that the women who have abortions come from all racial, ethnic, socioeconomic, and religious backgrounds. If current rates continue, it is estimated that 35% of all women of reproductive age in America today will have had an abortion by the time they reach the age of 45."I'm not arguing that a specific ethnic group or culture has higher abortion rates. I'm saying it shouldn't be used as birth control.Also, pregnancy and childbirth should not be a form of punishment.I totally agree. Dealing with the consequences of your actions isn't punishment, it's responsibility. I'm not advocating banning abortion (nor am I advocating for abortion), but birth control is the WRONG reason. And if you look up, I was disputing these words: I've got a form of birth control way more effective than the pill. It's called: Abortion.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

I'd say a 'stupid slut' getting pregnant would qualify as 'unintended', so that really proves no point. It pretty much takes apart your assertion that people who are 'dumb enough' to find themselves unintentionally pregnant should be punished for some reason.I'm not arguing that a specific ethnic group or culture has higher abortion rates. I'm saying it shouldn't be used as birth control.But you are arguing that only dumb people need it, which is false. As for the rest of your post, I disagree with much of it, but if you don't want to see abortion banned we don't really have much to argue about. I am fine with people not supporting abortion, as long as they realize their opinions should not be legislated.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: Yes they should.

It pretty much takes apart your assertion that people who are 'dumb enough' to find themselves unintentionally pregnant should be punished for some reason.I don't think they should be punished. My post came out wrong. They should take responsibility for their actions! That's not punishment, that's adulthood!But you are arguing that only dumb people need it, which is false.No, I'm not. I can see plenty of situations where it would be okay, which is why I'm not for shutting down abortion. I'm saying dumb people shouldn't have access to it.And, ([1]), how could I legislate 'not shutting down' abortion, but not support it either? Seems odd.----[1] How do you put emoticons inside parenthesis?http://www.xkcd.com/541/
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

Dumb people who do not want their babies should not have them, either. I was under the impression that you wanted to legislate a ban on abortions, because most people who do not support it want to do that.Not sure if you were making a joke or genuinely asking the emoticon question but I think they work no matter what you do. CD doesn't turn things into icons.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: Yes they should.

If your kid wants to be names 'Superman', would you allow that? I'm guessing most people wouldn't. And people who want to have sex to have fun without having to deal with the consequences have the maturity of a six-year-old. Thus, they should be treated as such.Sorry for giving you the wrong impression on abortion. And the emoticon thing was part joke and part real. That's why I just put , so you knew I was smiling. (:) get's confusing. (So does '(:))')
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

Names are not issues of bodily autonomy.And people who want to have sex to have fun without having to deal with the consequences have the maturity of a six-year-old.Then, at one point or another, this is almost anyone who has ever had sex. There is nothing in your post that explicitly points to a desire to make abortion illegal so I suppose it was just an assumption on my part.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: Yes they should.

Then, at one point or another, this is almost anyone who has ever had sex.This is true, but I'm guessing most people grow out of that phase. During that phase, they should not be allowed to get pregnant.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

Considering how many kids the average person has, compared to how much sex the average person has, I would say that no, they don't; most people regard sex as a purely recreational activity for most of their lives.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: Yes they should.

How much sex and how many kids is not a good comparison. As couples get older, they probably also use protection more to safeguard against pregnancies. (Yes, condoms aren't 100% safe, but they are probably around 95%). It may be recreational, but there are still risks, and people take them into account as they age. If brain-people (either psychologists or psychiatrists--I can never remember which) are right, than this should happen at or around or before 25, when people get mentally mature.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

And people use condoms because......because the vast majority of the time, they are having sex for recreation over procreation. This was my point in the beginning.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

"If you're dumb enough to have unprotected sex, you deserve to have a kid."If you don't want it, you don't have to have it. Simple enough.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: Yes they should.

If you don't want it, don't have unprotected sex.Or, better yet, don't have sex at all! (Until you're married or suddenly decide you want to become a single parent)
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

"Or, better yet, don't have sex at all!"It's not gonna stop people from doing it. And your arguing isn't going to stop them from aborting the thing.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: Yes they should.

And your argument isn't going to stop parents from giving their kids contraceptives. So why are we even having this argument?
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

"So why are we even having this argument?"Exactly my point.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: it should be your choice

dude, that is terrible. do you know that some of the most active protesters against abortion are people who had one and regreted it. birth control means to prevent the conception of a baby, but abortion is ENDING the newly formed life.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

"but abortion is ENDING the newly formed life"Do I care? No.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

so, in other words ur saying,u dont care if an innocent lil baby dies jus because u cant help but fu*k that guy/girl?
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

"so, in other words ur saying,u dont care if an innocent lil baby dies jus because u cant help but fu*k that guy/girl?"Ya
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: Yes they should.

Well then, FUCK TO THE YOU. That is all...................................................................................................................................................................................
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

"Well then, FUCK TO THE YOU."XD and an LOL. Nice response. Weak.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: Yes they should.

what if your own parents had that mindset? they could have killed you without a second thought.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

Then I wouldn't be here to argue the point. No harm done. No big deal. But I am here and you need a new argument
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: Yes they should.

I've got a fix for sick people like you. It's called: You need your penis chopped off.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

"You need your penis chopped off."Judging from your response, it sounds like you already have.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

First there should be an age limit and secondly i think no one should tell another person how to live their lives or what to do with their personal lives. Whether or not the person chooses to use birth control or give birth has nothing to do with anyone but herself and her parents should not be able to force her if she refuses birth control. I understand that parents can be caring and protective of their children but i also think that a young woman should be able to make her decisions freely and no one should be able to force her to use something on her body she if she refuses to. Its her body and life, not their's
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

No. But it is a parents responsibility to educate their children in these matters. And teach about birth control and offer it as an option.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

No, the teenager should be allowed to choose if they wish to have sex with a guy and get pregant.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: Yes they should.

Why not? What if they are completely set and ready for a child?
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

That's not the problem though, usually it's the parents who won't put girls on birth control, because they either want to pretend they don't need it or think the girl is too young.I personally had to go behind my moms back to protect myself, I asked her before and she just wouldn't do it.So I think that girls should just have easier access to it if they want it. And it shouldn't be made into something that they should feel ashamed of either. If they need it they should be comfortable to get it.
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

Does the fact that I read this as "Bitchcontrol" mean anything? >.>
Debate: Birthcontrol???
Side: NO! IT'S MY BODY!!!

People have the right to choose .
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

Blame is ultimately an assignation of moral condemnation. As someone who rejects morality itself, I find the attribution of blame both pointless and damaging. Who we are and what we do are determined by our genetics and conditioning; it make little actual sense to say any of us should be blamed for anything that we do or that is done to us. Accountability becomes the operative word. For our actions there is a response, and that response ought to follow from what is logically and objectively preferable.Rather than focusing upon moral character, we focus on objective reality. Rather than acting on emotional belief, we act upon our best knowledge as to the most preferable response. We focus less upon our moral-emotional gratification, and more upon the ends we claim to want (e.g. less crime, stronger families, etc.).
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

Let's break right in with one of the most sensitive topics why don't we? Rape. Who's at fault when a rape occurs. The rapist obviously. Yet it can not be said, 100% of the time that the rapist was the only one vying for that to happen. Relax I'm not blaming the victim, nor am I saying the victim deserved, or was asking for the rape. I'm saying the rapist, probably knew rape was wrong, and would not have done it, if not for at least one thing done by the victim. If it sounds wrong, I don't really care.Everything is not right in a rapist's head to make them think rape is okay, and they still deserve their penalties, but something should be said to the victim to prevent that from happening at leastYou're all probably familiar with this one. Don't wear provocative clothing, so that you won't rev up any potential rapists.That's a silly premise, but it makes a lick of sense. Most rapists are not in it for the sexual thrill, they are in it for the domination, and will rape you in anything, but to say the clothing doesn't do anything is just not correct. Some people are not raised correctly and do not know how to take no for an answer. This is not the victim's fault, but if you know that their are people like this in the world, going around the place where those people dwell, in clothing that would catch their attention is foolish. It'd be akin to walking through a dangerous neighborhood, known for it gang violence, carrying bags of money. It's not that you can't look attractive, it's that you should know when and where it's appropriate. No one can tell you not to express your rights wherever the hell you want, but no one can actually stop those rapists until they make their move.The blaming of the victim is wrong, and it's a cop out, since you can't really blame all of the potential assaulter. However, asking that the potential victims, and victims alike, have some consideration over the mind set of the potential assaulters should be perfectly fine, if I'm wrong please tell me why.Next (which was supposed to be last of a list of at least three but will be last of just this list of two, because I did not expect the first point to be so long) is the victims of having their right to freedom of speech trampled. You say what you like, but you should expect others to not be so fond of it. They'll be arrested for whatever they do to you in violation of your rights.... but only after they do it. In the mean time, you should consider if you really need to say it.Or if you just have the privilege to.That second one was short, but I didn't have a lot of holes I needed covering.Ultimately I'm just saying everyone should take responsibility for yourself, and expect the world to be as crazy as it is. Don't rely on your government, your gender, or your rights to protect you in the moment. You may think I'm wrong, but in the moment only the victim and the one assaulting person know the details of the assault.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

No one asks to be raped. What is wrong with you people promoting rape culture?
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

Okay let me first start by saying, I apologize for my satirical comment to you, that was rude, and uncalled for.Next, and the last thing I'll say until you shape up, is that you are way too emotionally invested in this debate, so much so that you are not reading what anyone is saying. If you were, you'd see no one has yet to say a victim deserves it, or a rapist should get off penalty free.I won't ban you because that never goes any where good, I'm just letting you know, this behavior would definitely justify it, this behavior is what I described in the paragraph above, how you overlook the arguments of others in favor of your emotions.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

I apologize too. Thank you for being honest. I still think it is wrong to victim blame though. Saying that a victim is even partially responsible for being raped is a form of victim blaming. Rape is the fault of the rapist, not the victim.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

This is where I disagree. It was brought to my mind by cartman that rape can also happen on a date, in an environment where you have no idea that that could even happen.I do not think you understand what I mean by responsibility. Responsibility and blame are two different things. Blame is what happens afterwards, and it is reserved for the guilty. Responsibility is what you do in preparation before. I'll give you the same example I gave him.It's a potential victim's responsibility to know that he/she should not drink anything given to him/her by either a stranger or a person they are not sure they can trust. My whole argument, and the point of this debate in fact, is that it should not be considerded shameful, or a sin, to let the public know that they should have some responsibilty. I feel that we should be able to tell potential victims how to not be victims, without being told that we are blaming them. Assaulters will not always listen to the law, there fore people who are at risk of being assaulted need to be more responsible in situations we know of that can lead to assault.This underlined sentence, do you at least agree with that? Because that is the nature of my whole argument.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

Rape is never the fault of the victim. It is always the fault of the rapist.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

... and again you didn't read my argument. Good day to you.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

You said that the victim is partially responsible for the rape. That is victim blaming.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

I agree. If someones argument might possibly lead to even a hint of victim blaming then we shouldn't read the argument. Ultimately we should only consider arguments that already coincide with our views. We love you Sitara!!
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

Did I really? Well that was an error on my part. My arguments are not aiming to say victims are to blame, my arguments are aiming to say potential victims (basically everyone) should be more responsible.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

Fair enough. Thank you for clarifying. .
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

woopsie daisy. Sitara hasn't read an argument before replying again. Go sit in the stupid corner please.Relax I'm not blaming the victim, nor am I saying the victim deserved, or was asking for the rape
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

I promote rape culture because I am a rapist, why wouldn't I promote my culture. What's wrong with you promoting anti-rape culture? That's bigoted against my culture.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

I have every right to oppose rape culture. Rape culture is horrible.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

He's joking SitaraMusica. You should really think over what someone is really saying before you respond.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

He said: I promote rape culture because I am a rapist, why wouldn't I promote my culture. What's wrong with you promoting anti-rape culture? That's bigoted against my culture. It is not my problem that he has trouble communicating. If someone says something like that, they are responsible if people believe them.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SAY STUFF LIKE THAT OVER THE INTERNET!!! THIS IS WHY THEY SHOULDN'T GO TO PRISON!!! JESUS CHRIST!!!No, it's my fault to some extent if you responded to my earlier comment by saying "Well, why don't I triangle choke YOU ghostheadx!?" And I called the police. That would just be me being a moron. Go on, offend me. Diss me. I want to be offended. Say anything to offend me and I'll be happy.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

He's not promoting rape culture. He's simply saying that if you don't want to be raped, don't wear provocative clothing in places you'd run into a rapist.But what of a high school girl doesn't know that? She's too busy being a naive teenager. I wouldn't put blame on a high schooler for being a teenager. I mean, that's just her being human.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

Yes he is. Blaming rape on the actions of the victim is the same as promoting rape culture. No one asks to be raped.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

I agree that it shouldn't be blamed on the actions of the victim. I don't agree that he thinks the victim could have done anything to prevent it.Do I agree with him? Not entirely. I think there will always be people who don't know where their going to be raped. I mean, that's a fact. And we can't expect society to know, unless we want to teach it in schoolI know though, that a victim sometimes CAN take precautions to prevent a rape. No one said the person ASKED to be raped. He's just saying the victim should have done something to prevent that.Obviously if someone can't afford non-provocative clothing, etc. then they aren't asking to be raped.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

No one asks to be raped. No one has the right to a victim's body. Saying that a victim could have prevented the rape is the same as victim blaming.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

No, saying that they could have GUARANTEED that they weren't going to be raped is the same as victim blaming.What if the victim bought a gun? Knew BJJ? A woman who knows Brazillian Jiu Jitsu, will take out an untrained guy any day of the week. Perfect solution. Triangle choke, then break the guy's neck. Problem solved.Or even maybe break their arm.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

Rape is not the fault of the victim. No one asks to be raped.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

I know, and I'm saying that it's not their fault, but they still could have tried to prevent it.I can help prevent someone from hacking my computer. It's not guaranteed, but I can try. You know how? Firewall, security systems, etc.So, obviously rape isn't the fault of the victim, but that doesn't mean the victim can't TRY to prevent it.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

Saying that a victim could have prevented the rape is the same as victim blaming.Well it is fact that you can do things to lower the chances of rape. If you find that a taboo topic then that's your problem. Face the facts. If you go out wearing a hijab you are going to reduce the chance of being raped. Fact. Should women have to wear hijabs to prevent rape? No. But thats not what he's talking about.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

Fact: No one asks to be raped. Fact: Rape is only the fault of the rapist.