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Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

Reasons that people insists on banning incest1. Because inbreeding results into defective childrenThe chances of producing defective children occurs to everyone. By this logic, are you saying that people with raised chances of defective birth should be condemned?2. Because Westermarck Effect says that close family members should notSame argument was raised towards homosexuals and same argument will be raised again. Be my guest.3. Because it is disgustingThats not a valid reason
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

Is incest a criminal offense in the USA?This debate is basically about legalization of incestuous marriage, the debate creator has confirmed this.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

Is incest a criminal offense in the USA?Yes it isPlenty of people has been arrested and imprisoned for said relationships. But my question is, it is really right to ilegalize incest?Illegal isnt always immoral
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

I did not know that. In Russia, there are no criminal penalties for incest, although it's definitely not considered normal.If this is the case in US, then my answer would be:1. Incest should not be punished by law, unless it involves pedophilia.2. My position on incestuous marriage remains the same: no way!This is basically what we now have in Russia, regarding gays: being gay is not a crime, but gay marriage will not be legal, in any near future.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

Correction; If you are openminded about it, then theres a chance that it will be legalized in the near future
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

We don't need it here...This only distract from the real human rights issues. We've got so many real problems. Gays aren't by far the most oppressed, they're not oppressed at all.Gay marriage is an artificial construct, which does not help anyone, but creates additional problems. A mush as I distrust our government, I'm glad they were capable of learning from your anti - example, in regard to the whole PC agenda.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

This only distract from the real human rights issues. We've got so many real problems.But the issue of homosexuality and incest belongs to humanitarian issues. I see no problem in tackling themGays aren't by far the most oppressed, they're not oppressed at all.Search for "Oppression of Homosexuals". Youll find plentyGay marriage is an artificial construct, which does not help anyone, but creates additional problems.The only problem I see is the closeminded society. It does not harm anyone who allows logic above emotions
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

But the issue of homosexuality and incest belongs to humanitarian issues. I see no problem in tackling themIn my country, the idea of defending human rights is not shared by everyone. This is the more so, that many people were literally robbed in the 90-s, under the guise of "democracy". So, these terms cause bad associations, for many people.The more we associate dubious agendas with the human rights movement, the less followers this movement will have in my country.We have many direct human rights problems, that are not being resolved. For example, a huge number of young men are being tortured, killed, or driven to suicide every year, in the so - called "conscript army". This army is more of a sadistic sect, which has very little to do with military training. The government is doing nothing to address this issue, and criminal investigation of the said atrocities is usually hindered by the authorities. That is a real human rights issue.Search for "Oppression of Homosexuals". You'll find plentyYes, there's plenty to be found there, but it all sounds more like politically correct propaganda. While it is true that gays are more or less often victims of hate crimes (depends on region), this is an issue of law enforcement failure, which in its turn is a huge problem for Russia. But this issue affects not only the gays, but the vast majority of the population.Regarding oppression of gays: I have no statistics for Russia, but in the USA gays do not qualify for being an oppressed minority.Source: http://www.crrange.com/wall34.htmlQuote: "Homosexuals do not meet the three criteria that characterize minority groups that have been accorded special legal protections."The three criteria being: economic deprivation, political powerlessness, and immutable characteristics.Homosexuals do not meet any of those three criteria.The only problem I see is the closeminded society. It does not harm anyone who allows logic above emotionsAs I've already shown you, the laws on gay marriage have already created some dangerous legal precedents, which, when made full use of by the gay agenda, will harm most of the people, and the country as a whole.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

In my country, the idea of defending human rights is not shared by everyone. Doesnt fit my definition of equalityThe government is doing nothing to address this issue, and criminal investigation of the said atrocities is usually hindered by the authorities. That is a real human rights issueA bigger one that's a fact. But i still cant find any faults in protecting homosexual relationships.But this issue affects not only the gays, but the vast majority of the population.Still, I have a reason to fight for the legalization of homosexual realtionshipsHomosexuals do not meet any of those three criteriaThat doesnt mean that we have the freedom to take away their human rightsAs I've already shown you, the laws on gay marriage have already created some dangerous legal precedents, which, when made full use of by the gay agenda, will harm most of the people, and the country as a whole.You gave me samples of insane sects and insane laws. Yet, you still failed to give me proof that legalization of gay marriage will harm our nation.Sorry, but I still cannot see anything wrong with it
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

Maybe we can start slow and only legalize gay incest. ;)BTW, most people who want to legalize incest have a hot sibling ;)
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

Start slow..................I have the impression you're enjoying this.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

I'm a conservative. I don't like to rush things. I'd rather keep the old ways the way they are for as long as possible. At least until I die. After that, you people can do whatever you want. ;)
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

I'll try to do whatever I can, so this never happens!Not in USA, not Russia, not in EU.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

You are a very dedicated individuals. We need people like you to put a finger in the crack of the dike so that it doesn't burst ;)
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

You are a very dedicated individualsWhy the "s"? Typo, or some trick to make more fun of this?Yes, you're right, I'm just starting this web - based fight against the evil agendas, though it will most likely end in nothing.The reason why I do it is very simple.I've had enough of my country, and want to leave...but with this shit gathering over USA and EU, it seems I've nowhere to go!But I've lived in the USSR, and know a thing or two about resisting propaganda.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

It was a typo.You could try going to a Muslim country. They are very dedicated as well. ;)
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

They are dedicated to some crazy shit. They're not even following the Qua-ran anymore, and I don't like liars and hypocrites.I was anti-communist before this perestroika stuff, and now...I see our "democrats" have betrayed everything we stood for. And the West has largely betrayed us, too, by betraying itself.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

So you're saying that you were an anti-communist before it was cool to be an anti-communist. You must really hate hipsters jumping on the band wagon after the fact ;)
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

Well, to tell the truth perestroika had already started, but the things I said and did were still quite dangerous. We were still a long way to go till formally acknowledging the evil of the Bolsheviks...and I think we're not there yet.I couldn't understand these things earlier, because I was too young.Anyway, the funny thing is, the same KGB which could take me in for what I was saying, was at that same time pestering the "democrats to be": Gaidar, Chubais, and others.They had masterminded all this "democratic revolution", as a way of coming to power. Real power, not what is seen on display. The people from the former KGB fifth department are still the people behind the curtain in Russia, be it that the current president is one of them.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

At the moment I can not think of an argument against homosexual incest other than I think it is wrong, which is the same argument that I get mad at others for using.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

Maybe you can say that currently society is so against the concept of gay incest that it would put a lot of pressure on the incetous gay couple to the point where they break up and one of them, if not both of them, will end up all butt hurt ;)
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

Other than the birth defects, I don't think there's anything wrong with it. I mean, I don't think incestuous marriage has a chance in the western world at the moment because of the current morals of western civilization. Maybe in Canada? I don't know. I see little problem with it than any other relationship.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

Incest is best! :DSeriously though, who fucking cares. As long as they don't procreate let them be.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

I don't care, as long as they don't change the laws.Each insane law that is adopted, works against law as a whole.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

If there is a law against incest, legalizing would remove one law. This is like how allowing homosexual marriage is removing laws against it, lowing the total number of laws. If that's what you are getting at I agree.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying.I think that in countries / states where incest is a criminal offense, those laws should be removed. While I don't like the "consenting adults" logic, I still think that consenting adults should not be punished for what they do, if they're not directly hurting others.What I do not agree with, is legalization of incestuous marriage. Like with gay marriage, this will require creating more laws, and further redefining the term "marriage". But it's not the total number of laws that bother me. The problem is, in countries where law is precedent - based, LGBT has been able to make use of that, and with every new legislation, they create a bridgehead for pushing their agenda further.Right now, they have been able to implement some more insane law changes, basing their logic on the fact that gay marriage is legal. They are pushing for even more gay propaganda in schools. They have forced redefinition oh hate speech, so it encompasses any kind of speech, that some gay may find offending. They have been able to push forward with the toilet law, which allows boys to go into girls' restrooms, and vice versa.Those were just some examples, you can see more in my arguments on both sides of the debate.All in all, these marginal movements are not harmless, and they actually push for adopting more insane laws, which limit the freedom of individuals.Creating one more legal precedent for them, is in my opinion a very bad thing.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

Like with gay marriage, this will require creating more laws, and further redefining the term "marriage"Legalizing gay marriage doesn't create any new laws, it only removes previous restrictions. If you want marriage to be something supported by the government, it can't be discriminatory. You can have the word, I would rather all "marriage" be called civil unions and be done with it, if gays want to say their are married they can just as much as I can say I'm an astronaut, although based on the way society is embracing homosexuality, I have little doubt that marriage is going to be redefined by the people to include homosexuals.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

If family members marry each other, no harm comes to anyone else in society.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

No. Children conceived from incest have an extremely high chance of being mentally and/or physically impaired.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

My friend with Lupus has an extremely high chance of giving birth to someone with Lupus, same with my friend with sickle cell anaemia. I know a woman with aids and I have a hitory of asthma. Should all of us be barred from having children because our children will be physically impaired?
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

Good argument, but the ones who would commit incest have other options when it comes to having a child. The ones who actually have disease already just have to try and hope for the best.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

Then you simply had to forbid them from having a child. But allow them to marry legally. Problem solved.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

Touche.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

But that is not fair, the argument is not in reference to procreation, it questions when and where the government should intervene in my sexual relations. What if I have a deep love for my sister or first cousin? Should the government stop me from choosing who to love? Gays cannot have children so they do not really add to the workforce or human resources as heterosexuals do- but they can adopt. Why can I not do the same?
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

Gays cannot have children so they do not really add to the workforce or human resources as heterosexuals do- but they can adopt.I am confused now. Are you arguing for homosexuals or Incest? I don't understand how you even compare the two. What if I have a deep love for my sister or first cousin?deep love? you mean you just want to get sexual with themShould the government stop me from choosing who to love?The government isn't stopping you from loving them, they are just stopping you from publicly showing your love. Why can I not do the same?You can incest and still adopt.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

I am confused now. Are you arguing for homosexuals or Incest? I don't understand how you even compare the two.That is self explanatory, the argument on the side of gays is that love is love. So if love is love, then my love should not be discriminated against because of who I love.deep love? you mean you just want to get sexual with themThat is the idea of incest.The government isn't stopping you from loving them, they are just stopping you from publicly showing your love.That is not only a bigoted statement, it is also the same argument conservative Christians use against gays- forcing them to stay in the closet.You can incest and still adopt.So I guess deformed babies is a non-issue.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

Let's legalize bestiality while we're at it.  Cuz who needs morality, right?
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

Why not legalize that too? I mean, you can kill, maim, skin, genetically augment and alter animals, even put fruit flies through needless radiation and mutate them, making their short lives miserable. Why can't we have sex with them now?
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

Maybe go look for the reason as to why these laws are place and don't just assume they're doing it just because they don't like it.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

That is not my responsibility, that is yours. These laws are in place because of a traditional moral construct. I am sure the Roman Empire functioned with bestiality, even though it was somewhat socially unacceptable.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

We should be aloud to fuck whatever we want to fuck. You've convinced me.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

Yes!!!! Now, I shall go spread my philosophical poison elsewhere.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

Yes actually. .
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

If all your reason for going against their love is the chances of deformed offspring, then you should also condemn people who owns defective genes.Also, under this logic, you are saying that people get married simply to reproduce. When it is not. People get wed to solidify their love. And if they truly love each other, it goes without saying that they know the risk of their relationshipForbid them to have children, but do not go against their love. Problem solved
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

In a historical context; children conceived from incest also have a high chance of being royalty. So....
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

You got your details wrong lol...I know what you are talking about though. and it's not a very high chance. No where near as high of a chance their is for the child to be defective.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

Neither it nor homosexuality should be legalized.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

I know, but since one is, why not just do the other? .
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

Why legalize prostitution when porn is legal? The retention of some form of morality.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

Morality is a slip and slide situation so if you legalize porn the question is raised as to why prostitution is not legal. They are inherently the same- it is just that one is filmed which shows that one being illegal is a logical fallacy. Same with incest, if you legalize homosexuality, the other should be too because they are inherently the same.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

So you would rather have consistency in the law instead of maintaining partial morality? I would be against that.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

Yes, yes I would prefer that. But this is two pronged: either tighten laws about sexual interactions or loosen them so they are unbiased. I would prefer the former, but since that is not going to happen, hooray for the latter.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

Same sex marriage should be legal actually. .
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

Are you not a Bible believing Christian?
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

I do not answer to you. I am tired of you twisting the Bible, and twisting my words. I will not play your stupid games.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

Dana, I am willing to support sex marriage but you can not say that the bible does not explicitilty condemn homosexuality.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

I am not going to indulge you either. You have the right to your OPINION.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

So when the bible says that for a man to lay with another man is an abomination, you are not going to even aknowelage it. I am fine if you choose to disagree with it buy you got to admit that it is there.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

Like I said, I will not indulge you. You have the right to your OPINION.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

But it is not my opinion. It is fact that it is in the bible. I disagree with it but that does not give either you or me the right to pretend that it does not exist.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

It is not opinion. It is FACT.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

Are you serious. I really hope you are joking. What pray tell did you think the bible meant when it called one man laying with another an abomination?
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

The key to understanding Scripture is context, context, context. 1. That was property law. It was a big no no to treat a man like a woman which was property. 2. Say it with me: temple prostitution.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

I never said I agree with it, only that it exists which you seem to believe that you can will away. And as for context, I will reference Leviticus chapter 18 verse 22. "You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; such a thing is abomination". I think that is a pretty clear message.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

And yet you are wrong. You have no business judging a religion that you know nothing about.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

1)I am catholic2) I went to catholic private school up to six grade3) I studied while Prepared for confirmation4) I was an active member of my churches youth group though out my high school career.5) it does not take a hardcore understanding of the bible to understand the passage I referenced. Do you have any other explanation other then the bible is calling homosexuality an abomination. I am not agreeing with it, but only an extremely ignorant person should try to pretend that it does not exist.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

I meant Christian, not Catholic. Jesus is the head of the church, not the pope.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

You do of course realize that the bible was put together by the catholic church right. And we study the same scripture, i rather I study the same scripture you claim to know.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: Yes, it is fair.

The Catholic Church says that the Pope is the head of the church when Jesus is.
Debate: So should Incest be legalized by now or not?
Side: No, it is stupid.

The pope is a steward. He is not the final law, but his word still holds influence. The first pope, Jesus' disciple Peter. That happened when Jesus called Peter the rock that he would build the foundation of his church on. And side note, this still has no connection to what we were talking about previously. Are you going to denie the book of Leviticus exists.