azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: No, let them be

"We shouldn't be spending our tax money frivolously."Opinion."We should spend it on useful things like national defense instead of abortions for women to stupid to realize that if they can't afford an abortion they should abstain from sexual intercourse and opt for a facial instead."Think about the amount you'd pay in taxes for a single abortion compared to a lifetime of taxation to support an unwanted child born to a poor family. Incidentally (back to your silly idea that people should only be taxed for things they support) I'd rather have my taxes spent on an abortion then funding a military any day."I can't believe that you are actually abdicating telling women to go out and have sex..."I'm not. I just happen to have some grasp on the real world, unlike yourself, who seems to think that women only have sex because they know they can have an abortion afterwards, which is ridiculously idiotic thinking."...and if they get pregnant that we will pay for her to have an abortion."Try to understand the difference between the fantasy world you live in and the real world. People do have sex. Women do get pregnant. Sometimes, those women can't afford a child or are not in a position to properly care for a child. I would rather fund an abortion then allow an unwanted child which will either not be properly cared for or will be born to a family to poor to provide for it to be bought into world, which ultimately, statistics show you'll end up paying far more for in the long run.What we're talking about here is funding abortions for the poor. Statistically, a child born to a poor family will itself end up being poor, which means you'll end up paying for support taxes such as welfare."What bone headed way of thinking is that?"It's a way of thinking grounded in reality, not in your pie in the sky fantasy land where as soon as people think they can have a free abortion they're going to go out and start fucking anyone who comes along.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: No, let them be

OK, so if I use your logic it explains why liberals are against the death penalty. See, the liberal argument must go something like this:Think about the amount of money you'd pay in taxes for a single execution or for life time imprisonment compared to just letting the murderer out of jail.I just happen to have some grasp on the real world, unlike yourself, who seems to think that murderers only kill because they know they wont get the death penalty or because they know that they can get out of jail afterwords, which is ridiculously idiotic thinking.Try to understand the difference between the fantasy world you live in and the real world. People do commit murder. People do get killed. Sometimes, those murderers can't afford to the time for their crime. I would rather fund an early release program then allow a convicted murderer to rot in jail, which ultimately, statistics show you'll end up paying far more for in the long run.What we're talking about here is funding an early release program for felons. Statistically, a felon cannot be rehabilitated, which means you'll end up paying for a rehabilitation that you know is not going to work.It's a way of thinking grounded in reality, not in your pie in the sky fantasy land where as soon as people think they can have a get out of jail free card they're going to go out and start killing anyone who comes along.;)
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

Congratulations on the most stupid Reductio ad absurdum argument ever made. What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this site is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: No, let them be

Lol. I thought you didn't believe in God? Did I make a believer out of you ;)My argument is simply this. If someone makes a mistake, you let them suffer the consequences. Otherwise you propagate the notion that it's no one's fault and thus no one has to take responsibility for their actions.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: No, let them be

Such a great debate opportunity and you throw it away with childish name calling? If it was really what you said it was you wouldn't have responded like that. All that name calling and sarcasm almost sounds defensive. ...
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

"We should spend it on useful things like national defense instead of abortions"Translation: I value the ability to make war more than I do a woman's Constitutional rights. What a surprise...My goodness...your obession with "facials" is quite telling, especially from someone that tries to devalue the importance of sex in a relationship. I'll bet that I could give your so-called wife a REAL good time...lol...
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: No, let them be

What are you talking about?The government is only responsible for protecting your rights.The government is not responsible for paying you to exercise your Constitutional rights.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

"I find it quite interesting how liberals think that it is OK to kill an innocent fetus but it is not OK to kill a convicted murderer."Hmmmmm, one of those is actually alive & the other one is an unviable fetus, not a real person, period."In a democracy people decide what is legal. For example, should we make abortion legal?"Well, it IS legal, and, more importantly, it is Constitutionally protected! We do NOT get to vote on what basic rights people should or shouldn't have!"In a democracy people don't decide what they are going to force on the other people."Of course they do...never heard of majority rule??
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: No, let them be

Hmmm...., one of them is proven to be a murdering bastard and the other one has potential to become saint. So, lets keep the one we know for a fact to be a bad apple (give him a chance) and lets get rid of the innocent one istead of giving him a chance. Do you even read what you type?
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

Thanks for NOT answering my question. I knew you didn't have it in you...lol...BTW, you OBVIOUSLY never bother to read what you type, or you'd be cowering in embarrassment by now...
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: No, let them be

OK, so come 2010 we will vote against health care and be done with it. ;)
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

"Here's my definition of taxes:Taxes - To compel a man to furnish contributions of money"Wrong again...taxes are a contribution for the support of a govt. from persons, groups, or businesses within the domain of that govt. in order to raise revenue for that govt., levied on the income or property of persons or organizations, on the production costs or sales prices of goods and services, etc..In short, taxes are necessary for govt. to exist at all.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: No, let them be

OK, so if taxes are any monies that the government requires in order to exist then not a damn penny should go towards abortion because government doesn't need abortions in order to exist. Instead every penny should go towards national defense because that is what the government needs in order to exist. ;)
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

Once again, nice try at switching the focus of this debate, but it's not working.Whether you like it or not (and we ALL know that you don't), women have a Constitutional right to have an abortion, period.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: misunderstanding of democracy

1. The Hyde ammendment took rights away, it did not keep the status quo at all.2. The Bill without that shortsighted and completely useless ammendment keeps the status quo, it doesn't increase pro-choice rights at all.So as is the case with every dabate Joe has ever made, it's based around an incorrect assumption, and tagged idiotically, and he will go on to answer disproofs with fallacies, and when all else fails he will begin making jokes.Because the fact is, Joe is wrong, and instead of owning up to it, he will continue to hide behind "humor" then make an identical debat 3 days later only worded a bit differently.That said,I'm morally against the war in Iraq, and that killed people who were actually alive.I still have to pay taxes.This debate shows a fundamental misunderstanding of every aspect of democracy, and is quite pathetic.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

This is how democracy works, Not everyone gets what they want, but the majority does. I may not like my tax dollars being sent to support Israel, I might disapprove of the war in Iraq, I may have a moral objection to a multitude of things my government spends money on, but that doesn't mean I only pay the taxes for the things i want. People have a right to health care, and just because some people don't think people should have that right, doesn't mean that those people can impede on the rights of those who want to exercise it. I think John Stewart put it well when he compared paying taxes to going to a zoo. If the charge is $20.00, you cant just pay $10.00 and say "I don't like zebras."
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: No, let them be

The majority of people want their tax dollars spent on other peoples choices? I somehow doubt that. Just because people are for abortion does not mean they will support funding it. I ask again, when will we begin to hold people accountable for their own actions?
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

BTW whose money goes towards caring for unwanted orphans that dont get adopted? just wondering.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: No, let them be

There is hundreds of families waiting to adopt. A parent cannot just abandon their child. That is illegal. Orphans are people are just children that have nobody.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

and many go un- adopted. parents do abandon their children regardless of what is legal. those poor kids, what must go through their minds watching selfish adults hand sellect their preference of child,mind you i am NOT disputing adoption nor am i criticising those selfless adults who do adopt in the interest of giving those children a loving nurturing enviroment. however in a situation of an unwanted pregnancy such as that of rape etc why should anyone have to pay for an abortion out of their pocket.and as far as you sexist pigs making your comments on how a woman should keep her slut legs closed- maybe your right -i mean then vile critters such as yourselves wouldnt have been born.- but seriously what about those forced pregnancies you insist on? you who dont want to pay for the abortion are happy to pay for this child to sit in an orphange pondering his existence. you evil selfish do-gooders
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: No, let them be

You under estimate children. They are very resilient. Think about children that have been in accidents and have lost body parts. more often than not I see adults cringing and saying, "Oh man, I couldn't handle loosing a pinkie let alone a leg." And then I see the kid in a wheel chair having a good time. This leads me to believe that most individuals would rather live in a wheel chair than never have lived at all. Same for orphans.Also, babies are quickly adopted. If a mother truly doesn't want the kid and would have preferred an abortion instead but couldn't afford it, she can always put the kid up for adoption while he's still a baby. I think that the scenario you paint is bleaker than the reality.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

oh boy oh boy oh boy where will this end . i actually spent eleven long months at a childrens hospital, with my own child who fought for her life and won . but how heartbreaking it was.and through my experience there ,the sad things i saw, i could also offer up viable evidence in support of my debate. but i think ive had about enough of this bullshit debate that YOU created.YOU did after all only create it to stir foul air amongst debaters, not for any good reason ,just cause your a nasty piece . id love to hear what your wife and kids really thinks of you and your male chauvinistic views but then you probably dont let them have an oppinion for themselves. BTW have you ever seen a heroin baby.i dont think so ,in fact i dont think youve seen much of reality at all. Now arent you missing your dragon game ?,oh loyal husband and father and guru of advice .
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: No, let them be

So basically, you are trying to say it is better to KILL the child than to have it an orphan? By that logic, why not just blow up the orphanage? Besides, just because someone might abandon their child, does not make it right or legal. Nor does it justify paying for their abortion.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: No, let them be

Isn't it amazing how MisterGuy does not use logic?You may want to visit this debate.http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/ What_does_Government_Protected_Constitutional_Right_mean
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

no,shit head, i dont want to blow up an orphanage. i dont think its ok to kill kids -dumbass!!!! keep reading. think again before you suggest im a baby killer you fukn moron.dont insult me because you dont have the knowledge to comprehend.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: No, let them be

Well first off, we have been saying that in cases of rape or the mothers life being at risk that the government should pay for it. So the rest of your statement was irrelevant. Secondly, if you are pro abortion because of children ending up in an orphanage, then what else was I supposed to say?
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

hmmm again about the mothers life, bloody hell,so your saying "fuck it if the baby is born into suffering,if its mothers fault let her pay for it" .you make me sick how shallow and narrowminded you are.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

orphan children arent my excuse for why im pro-abortion smartypants i have numerous reasons As if it aint bloody obvious.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: No, let them be

I dont believe anyone has the right to choose who comes into this world. Especially based on their quality of life. Who are we to say "well your life will be shitty anyway so...lets just not let that happen?" Give me a break
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

give you a break ? you just called me a baby killer and ya want me to give you a break . so its ok to make a little bub go through heroin detox. fuck your a nasty person.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: No, let them be

So its better not to give them life at all? Right and I am the nasty person.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

oh get of your self rightiousness bullshit will you. who the fuck are you to decide its ok for a baby to be born with the dangerous cruel withdrawals from heroin etc or who are you to say its ok for a child to have to live with knowing they are the result of rape,etc who are you to dictate that shit.so you have the right to condemn a life to any of the numerous "hells" that versitility of life allows because you think thats how it should be. are you even fighting for the rights of children or are you just another narrow minded tight arse thats only argueing this issue because you dont want to part with your precious cash..... you sad sad thing!
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

have you seen a little baby in withdrawal from heroin before? call me a fukn baby killer ,seems you dont mind subjecting them to torture.whose the nasty one...bloody hypocrytical do-gooder .
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

"A parent cannot just abandon their child. That is illegal."Actually, there are a couple of states that do allow new parents to do this.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: No, let them be

Well then that is a law that needs to be re-assessed. However, it is a totally different debate. Why don't you start one about it? ;)
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: No, let them be

The tax payer. Now i propose we expedite the process of death row inmates in order to provide better facilitites to the innocent orphans.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

I am morally against murder, yet my tax dollars go into funding several wars. If you don't like what your taxes are being used for, call your senators and congresspeople, vote for representatives who share your views, or suck it up. In a democracy we have to accept when we are in the minority.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

Exactly.................................................................................................................!
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: War - What is it good for

Should people who are morally against war be forced to pay for those who want one?Besides, the bill don't do that abortion thing you are going on about.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: No, let them be

No, I don't think people who are against abortion should have to fund abortions. One, its against their moral convictions. Two, it is not a life saving procedure: it is simply a woman trying to rid herself of responsibilties.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: No, let them be

Agreed. Women have the option to rid themselves of such a responsibility but why should they be able to put the financial burden on the tax payers?
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

"One, its against their moral convictions."We don't get to pick & choose how our collective tax dollars are spent, through "morals" or otherwise, period."Two, it is not a life saving procedure"...except that it frequently is...ooooppppssss...
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: No, let them be

Again,The Hyde Amendment, implemented in 1977, restricts the use of federal funds for abortion. These public funds can only be used when an abortion is needed to save the life of the mother, or when the pregnancy results from assault rape or incest.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

Everyone keeps going on about the health of the mother ,but does anyone know anything about heroin babies, for an example.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

http://www.ehow.com/about_5042764_effects-heroin-methadone-unborn-babies.html  Heroin is a highly addictive, semi-synthetic opioid drug. Heroin is sometimes used illegally for recreational use because it produces intense feelings of euphoria and relaxation. Tolerance to heroin often leads users to require more of the drug to produce the same effects over time.Heroin is also available under other names for pharmaceutical purposes like relief from acute pain and treatment of heroin addiction. Heroin is only legally available on the pharmaceutical market in some countries.Methadone is also a synthetic opioid drug. It is available for medical purposes, including pain relief and treatment of addiction to other drugs such as heroin and morphine.When a pregnant women uses heroin, the child takes heroin into the blood stream via the placenta. In this way, a baby may become addicted to heroin before birth.    Heroin in Unborn BabiesUnborn children of mothers addicted to heroin are at increased risk for a premature or stillbirth, in addition to the complications they may face after their birth. However, mothers addicted to heroin should not attempt to stop heroin use without consulting a physician. To safely reduce the mother's dependence on heroin, a physician may use methadone. Heroin Addiction and Withdrawal After BirthA baby that is exposed to heroin is at high risk for a number of afflictions after birth, including hypoglycemia, intracranial hemorrhage, premature birth, breathing problems and low birth weight. While in withdrawal from the drug, the baby may experience tremors, seizures, vomiting, moodiness, achiness, difficulty sleeping, fever and diarrhea. Methadone Treatment for Mothers on HeroinMethadone reduces or eliminates an addict's craving for heroin while blocking the effects, thus allowing the user to transition from heroin addiction to a drug-free lifestyle with less severe withdrawal symptoms. This is especially important for pregnant mothers because the symptoms of withdrawal may cause contractions of the uterus, initiating a premature birth or even causing the mother to miscarry. Methadone Withdrawal in InfantsInfants born of mothers who were taking methadone during pregnancy might experience withdrawal symptoms. These symptoms are similar to the effects of withdrawal from heroin. They include sleeping problems, lack of appetite, moodiness and fussiness, vomiting, tremors and fever. Long Term EffectsIt is not precisely known what the long-term effects of heroin and methadone are on children. Many children born addicted to heroin and methadone require special education classes in school, and some need to repeat one or more grades. Whether this is the result of exposure to drugs or for other reasons is unknown.
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

and you anti-abortionist will let an inocent baby be born into life like this?
Debate: Should people who are morally agaisnt abortions be forced to pay for those who w
Side: Yeah, screw them

im not saying, allow just anyone a free abortion ,put it in proper perspective.before calling me a baby killer.