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Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

Many of the Israelis went to Palestine during the era of the British protectorate. The Palestinians were not displaced by any Jewish occupation. On the other hand, Jews were forced out of their homeland during Arab occupations of their native lands. Does that give them a legitimate claim? Not necessarily, but clearly the majority of the UN believed that they did have a right to a separate state. As I said before the native Arab population did little to prevent the formation of the state of Israel, instead they waited until the deal was finalized to ask for assistance from surrounding Arab states. There is only one incident that I know of in which Israeli soldiers forced any Arabs from their homes, most abandoned their homes with the belief that the Arab armies would be victorious and they would then return. Their refusal to accept Israel as a legitimate state made them refugees, not the existence of Israel or actions taken by the Israelis.Yes, the Jews had a right to a nation in their homeland. Historically the Arabs are the invaders, this of course does not make the modern Palestinians invaders, however it should be remembered that the Jews and Arabs have a very long history. Further one has to remember, during British rule thousands, perhaps even millions of Jews fled to Palestine in the hopes of a new future far from the antisemitism that plagued the world in that period. There were conflicts between the Jews, the Arabs and the British. When it was decided that the United Kingdom would relinquish their protectorate the UN needed to find a way to prevent conflicts. The Jews were there, and were as much entrenched into their homes as the "native" Arabs and the UN developed a plan that was intended to give both the Palestinians and the Israelis land to avoid conflict between the two groups. Great care was taken to avoid displacing anyone in the process. Obviously it would have been impossible to prevent all displacement but as I said an effort was made to avoid that unfortunate circumstance. To my knowledge the Palestinians did not participate in that process.I would be terribly amiss to make any claims that one side or the other is completely without blame for the current circumstances, however history shows us that it was indeed the Arabs that have consistently tried to eliminate the Israeli nation. Consistently Israel has defended itself with whatever force necessary and consistently the Arabs have tried to turn their defeats into a story of oppression by the Jews. I believe that both have a claim to the land and that through reason and compromise a solution that is beneficial to both sides can be reached. However, as long as organizations such as Hamas continue to escalate the Jewish-Arab conflict no such compromise can be reached.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Palestine

Let us call the European and Russian (Jew) domination of a brown-owned land a holy right. This script sounds awfully familiar. Irrespective of how you believe Israel was formed, In the present time Israel is a powerful and wealthy nation that picks on a small hapless people. Israel tirelessly works to dehumanize Palestinians, deprives them from the dignity to live any kind of normal life because Israel needs land since they are continuously growing by building settlements in “occupied” “disputed” territories and by “annexing” land that mysteriously “belongs to no people.” Israeli’s want you to believe that they are the one who constantly live in fear, not the Palestinians that see with their own eyes the Israeli greed. If you’re a Palestinian male you may be killed without question by an IDF, as if they have the souls of animals not humans. Now we witness the true face of Zionism culture, children, woman, and babies can be killed as long as the IDF is aiming at a terrorist target. Just add the word terrorist to any location and Death will be swallowed.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

I'm not defending the Zionist movement, merely pointing out that the Jewish population was already in the region when the country of Israel was established. Would it be any more right to force these natives to leave their homes? The UN plan would have carved up Palestine along cultural lines. I agree that the Palestinians have a right to their own sovereign state; but it will be extremely difficult for this to happen now that Palestine has spent so many lives on both sides fighting a war that never needed to happen.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

This link didn't make it in my previous post.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/6_day_war
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: realization

Palestine needs to realize that they are not at fault but the government that they put in power is. The israelis have no problem with them except a lack of trust. If the people can regain israels trust and overthrow the terrorist government there would not be a problem. The israelis gave away their own land to try and help them. They are willing to negotiate
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Palestine

If you look at every time is there an Israel Palestinian debate Israel does make it work. And the bad government the Palestinian have is a result of the weak state Israel make it so it can't have no true power.And you call terrorist are a bunch of stupid harmless Muslims trying to defend there homes by home made bombs against tanks and Israel promotes them as terrorists to hide and justify their genocides of Palestinians.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

Arab World propaganda=Nazi and Communist propaganda.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=1068467317316&oid=36976484493&ref;=share
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Palestine

Israel is an illegal occupation, forged by bullying weaker countries into giving up their land, and forcing the people into horrid refugee camps. You can't just move people out of their home because of your already stupid views which dictate some magical meaning to a patch of dessert...grow up. Look at how pathetic it is that you write a page long explanation trying to justify it. Do you not see how you've been brainwashed. And you say they gave each party the land they are the majority on? The Israeli's are the exponential minority in the region. If the United States dropped it's support to the Israeli occupation, it would be overrun in a matter of days. It's a fake country, it would have never gotten to where it is on it's own. PS I guarantee no one read your insane and insanely long explanation for whatever it is you think justifys why you believe in what you do.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

"Following the declaration, Moetzet HaAm became the Provisional State Council, which acted as the legislative body for the new state until the first elections in January 1949.Over the next few days the armies of Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, and Syria invaded Israel, and officially and militarily threatened to occupy the whole of the former Mandate territory, thereby starting the 1948 Arab–Israeli War,"then you finish with"Even then, Israel greed was not over, it started a war on 1948"Clearly your interpritation of the UN site's words are wrong.You " it attcked 4 countries, seized territories from them, including Sinai Peninsula, the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, eastern Jerusalem, and the Golan Heights !!!!"  and the UN-"Over the next few days the armies of Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, and Syria invaded Israel, and officially and militarily threatened to occupy the whole of the former Mandate territory, thereby starting the 1948 Arab–Israeli War"Did you read this?
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

"Following the declaration, Moetzet HaAm became the Provisional State Council, which acted as the legislative body for the new state until the first elections in January 1949.Over the next few days the armies of Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, and Syria invaded Israel, and officially and militarily threatened to occupy the whole of the former Mandate territory, thereby starting the 1948 Arab–Israeli War,"then you finish with"Even then, Israel greed was not over, it started a war on 1948"Clearly your interpritation of the UN site's words are wrong.You " it attcked 4 countries, seized territories from them, including Sinai Peninsula, the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, eastern Jerusalem, and the Golan Heights !!!!" and the UN-"Over the next few days the armies of Egypt, Iraq, Lebanon, and Syria invaded Israel, and officially and militarily threatened to occupy the whole of the former Mandate territory, thereby starting the 1948 Arab–Israeli War"Did you read it?
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

In regards to that cute essay you wrote...It all ends down to this Israel should not even exist according to the Torah , which is considered the holy book in the jewish religion.In that case then Israel is following another order a political order which spreads propaganda making everything think muslims are blood thriving terrorists. How can a nation who knows what its like to be slaughtered go and do the same to someone else? Can you answer that?. Israel which over 3 billion in military aid from the US has secretly produced weapons that you cant even think of and they are single handedly causing disaster, destruction, famine, insecurity and above all those is that they breaking them down as human beings. Please don't get me wrong there Jews are a great people the ones who follow the torah and understand that jews are not supposed to have there own they are to be dispursed through out the world, these are called the orthodox jews the jews who are anti-isreali and are shamed that jews are killing innocent arabs. Think about in a nut shell, during the world war Britain made a deal with the Zionist in which the zionist promised Britain that the US will get into this and return they promised these zionist jews Palinstine.Image these palinstians are living there life in there land and boat loads of jews come to the shore. This is how beutiful the Islamic culture is instead of killing and destroying them they embrace them help them out but it was in there zionist plans.Pretty much FUCK ISRAEL if your jewish and reading this READ THE TORAH...HAHAHA...And in the TORAH AND THE BIBLE THAT THE QURAN IS THE WAY OF LIFE.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Palestine

Yo dumbass, I just want to let you know that Palestine was a country far longer than Israel has been. And if we refer everything to the name it has had first, then Iran is Persia, a Mexican is Aztec, a Chilean is Incan, and an American is a Native Indian.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

Yo Dumbass, palestine - a European not an Arabic word! Arabs cannot pronounce the letter P. Idiot.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Palestine

many people think that Israel is the wrong one here. because the liberal Medea has infested into are minds that its OK to blame the bigger power for all your problems. this is happening in Palestine today. however lets take the argument in a different perspective. if the Palestinians who did not start calling them self's Palestinians to Israel formed its country. and were not ever their own independent nation ever in history as many like you to believe. and say they got the fund money packages and weapons and Israel was the underdog ill explain to what the Arabs would do to their weaker enemy. one there would not be an weaker enemy. the muslin religion has no tolerance for other religion at all. they would eradicate the Israels like Iran is trying to do right now with trying to get nukes. 2 the Arabs would end up turning into some authoritarian government and cause grief and pain for its people and the world. if you don't believe me look at every other middle Eastern country. they all are dictated by most as ruthless people, besides the exception of Egypt who has come a long way in bringing peace in the middle east and i respect them for it. another point is that Israel is the only safe branch off for other religions to survive and spread into a zero-tolerance region. and last, Israel is the only force in the middle east that is publicly and governmentally on are side in fighting terrorism, of which most middle eastern countries support and openly praise. so Israel is clearly the nation that needs to be in a region that has no stability or freedom, and Israel will also be the bridge to connect America and other Democratic countries into reaching other nations to spread personal liberates and justice. i have no problem with people practicing the Islamic religion as long as they are respectful to other beliefs and wont be screaming jihad at me and or fund/join terrorist groups to bring down democracy.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

Jesus save us the day these wackos get what they want. i understand the border skirmishes and the wrong Israeli soldier abusing his power, but we were no better, no worse in the civil war as the union, ever head of Sherman's march? but it was over all nescecay what sherm did. Israel has more right to the Gaza strip and Golan heights then we do to California!!!!! these lands were conquered fair and square from countries who yell jihad every time they don't get their 100% way on a problem. the Israelis are dealing with 4yos with guns. how can you find peace with that? the Syrians would launch missiles off the Golan heights into Israel city's! and the Gaza strip was the mustering zone for the 6 day war and the yom kipur war. these areas are buffer zones, and if Israel wants to add more people to there regions, then fine, honestly i would of just annexed the the regions the second they took it and tell the u.n to screw off. their not fighting this war. besides the money and weapon packages they send, they don't understand the conflict with the exception of America who has troops stationed there as a back up force. and if the Palestinians wanted peace they would stop the terrorist groups such as the PLO instead of bicker for more land! they are hypocritical and just annoying, Israel has done more help for the refugees in Palestine then the so called Palestine Allys. sounds like the Palestinians screwed them self's over on many fronts, and heres an other thing. the Egyptians took land form the palistines when the Israels declared them self a nation, a person allyed to Palestine took their land! can u believe that? but we don't hear Palestinians fight and complain over that do we?
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

The Arab spring revolt happened between the Palestinians, Israelis and the British. In 1948 the United Kingdom Brought the issue to the UN. The UN voted to separate Palestine into two separate zones. However when Israel declared their Independence, their Arab neighbors attacked. All the land that belongs to Palestine that Israel has now is all a result of that Arab attacking in 1948.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

Israel that has been their land for 10,000 years before Palestine. For Palestine they are fighting against the grain if they think they will ever retain that land. It is prophetic in nature best thing for Palestine would be to make peace.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

Israel's military is the most badass military in the world. If you look back at the six-day and yom kippur war, they beat the shit out of like 3 arab countries in a matter of days.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Palestine

If you know anything about history than you would realize that the Jews made the first air attack during the 6 days war. Get your facts right and stop being ignorant.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

Agreed. It is interesting to look at the past and see that the Arab nations were the ones who declared war on Israel in '48 and '67. They lost horribily in '67 but whose fault was that? They declare war, then loose and don't want to deal with the consequences? Every other country in the world moves on after it looses a war and tries to build their lives again. The Palestinians will not.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

Screw the Palestinians .
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

After researching this age-long conflict, I cannot help but be in Israel's side. The majority of the Israelis are Jews, and Palestinians Muslims. Where do they originate from according to what they believe in? The Jews came from Israel and the Muslims came from Saudi Arabia. What if Israel did become Palestine? Where would all the Jews go? Back to Europe? Even though the holocaust is well over, there is still a tremendous amount of anti-semitism!!! What if Israel remained as it was? Where would the Palestinians go? I think many people are forgetting that they have a large country called SAUDI ARABIA. I'm aware that Israel takes enormous measures to defend itself from terrorism, which is what Hamas exploit and people frown upon Israel for 'murdering innocent citizens' but what would Israel be like if it didn't make and effort to prevent terrorism?! The other reason why I take Israel's side is because Israel has given up Gaza and the Western back for the Palestinians but they want the whole thing!!!!! I only ever support the side that wants peace, so that is why I support Israel. PS: Not ALL Palestinians dont want peace, it's just the majority.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

Fuck the dune coons in their despicable asses, the ONLY true ally we have in the middle east is Israel.These goat humping, boy buggering sacks of camel piss that surround our friends must be eradicated like the roaches they are.Or, they could simply stop attacking Israel, recognize her right to exist, then live in peace.I think they will choose to leave in pieces instead.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

the only reason palestine hates israel is that israel has all three major religeon structure. one:the holy sepulchre=christian two:dome of rocks=islam three:wailing wall = jews
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Palestine

"the only reason palestine hates israel "Palestine isn't actually a country anymore not since a whole load of american and european settlers decided to kick the native muslims off thie land and form a country called Isreal, since then the counry Isreal has erfused to follow international law and has been expanding its borders beyong what is elgally recongised by the UN, this has led to well over 500,000 settlers inhabiting palestian land, palestian families are forced from their homes a daily basis, and if they refuse and try to stand their ground they are often murdered by the IDF. "israel has all three major religeon structure. one:the holy sepulchre=christian two:dome of rocks=islam three:wailing wall = jews"Did you kno that if you are a muslim arab in Isreal you do not have the same rights as a Jew, you are a second class citizen, and this discrimination is legally enshrined in the Isreal constitution.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

Your argument that Muslims are mistreated in Israel is absolutely absurd considering what Muslim countries have been doing to Jews for years. They've been forced from these countries and had countless acts of terrorism committed against them. So really it is somewhat understandable that Muslims are sometimes mistreated in Israel, even if it doesn't justify it. Muslims continue to hate Jews and it is evident everywhere.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

Israel wouldnt of gone in, but of course the Palestinians continued firing rockets day in day out. Any other country in the world, if they had one missle fired at them, would be at war, Israel has hundreds of missles fired at them, and they cant do anything? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbhc9ob4MNs&feature=channel_page
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

First of all I would like to point out that Palestinians cannot have a claim to any land since they are not actually an ethnic people group. They make up many different people groups like Syrians and others, but the country of Palestine has never existed. With that being said Israeli people are the indigenous people of the land they occupy, and that alone should give them claim to the land. The land of Israel has belonged to the Jews since Abraham. There is really no disputing the fact that the Birthplace of the Jewish people is in Israel, and that the land belongs to them. It has been taken away from them many times, but they are the original occupants of the land and should therefore continue to occupy it.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Palestine

First of all I would like to point out that Palestinians cannot have a claim to any land since they are not actually an ethnic people group.The Palestinian people (Arabic: الشعب الفلسطيني‎, ash-sha‘b al-Filasṭīnī), also referred to as Palestinians (Arabic: الفلسطينيون‎, al-Filasṭīniyyūn; Hebrew: פָלַסְטִינִים) or Palestinian Arabs (Arabic: الفلسطينيين العرب‎, al-Filasṭīniyyīn al-ʿarab), are an ethnonational group[31][32][33][34][35][36][37] comprising the modern descendants of the peoples who have lived in Palestine continuously over the centuries and who today are largely culturally and linguistically Arabhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palestinians Shut your mouth.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

It's only recognized by surrounding Muslim countries which is convinient since Muslims are the ones who want the Jews to not have their own country... but since you just threw a ridiculous wikepedia page at me how about you read this to educate yourself https://thefederalist.com/2019/04/02/sorry-palestine-does-not-exist/
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

We should just let them duke it out and last man/country standing wins. (;
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Palestine

For two side to "duke it out," they both need legitimized military defense. To have military defense, it usually helps to have a sovereign state. Palestine is allowed no self-defense, so they have no access to advanced weaponry such as Israel gets from my US tax dollars. While Israel is able to develop nuclear weapons in defiance of prohibitions, any Palestinian self-defense rigged by crude smuggled supplies is classified as "terrorism".
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

Then they should just give up. Why keep on fighting a fight you can't win? How retarded is that?
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Palestine

simply cause we cannot watch our homeland being taken from us and just give up! when a person comes to you holding a gun do you smile at him and tell him take what you want? how retarded is that? the real question is..why fight people who are not as armed as you when you are invading their homeland murdering their children and old men and women...do you consider that being tough? fighting from only one side? give me a break! dont make me laugh! when you are being persecuted by someone you dont watch them kill your people and take over your homeland! you fight for your dignity! your pride! all the blood of your children and people! they should not be murdered and tortured in vein!! for those innocent people we fight! for a better tomorrow we seek! and for an end to this war we believe... now tell me..wouldn't you do the same if you were in this position? would you stay silent? would you not defend your family? huh?!...cause if you would stay silent then that is retarded!!! ;)
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

I would surrender in the hopes of saving my family. In the hopes of surviving long enough to fight another day when the situation on the ground has changed.I would not offer my family as sacrificial lambs while I try in vain to hang onto my pride and dignity.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Too much killing

And then we can laugh at the weeping mothers. (;
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

I believe in God, I support Israel in what every they do.
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Palestine

Is this some kind of joke?
Debate: Israel versus Palestine
Side: Israel

Israel is just trying to survive. Palestinians parade the streets singing "Death to Israel"