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Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: they are not mutually exclusive

Being proud and apologetic are not mutually exclusive. "Only Sith and Republicans think in terms of black and white." - Family Guy I think.The USA has a lot to be proud of. One of the highest living standards, defeating nazi's, an unprecedented amount of freedom when this country was originated, and even more today, we give more to impoverished countries than every other country in the world combined, we've invented most of the coolest stuff in the world from cars to airplanes to electricity to the telephone to the internet, we have 50 states, a hundred accents, every religion known to man, every race, creed, and social background and yet have only had one civil war in our entire history.I could go on and on. There are over 400 billionaires and about half of them came from the middle class or lower. No other country can boast such upward mobility. Of the top ten schools in the world, we have 6 or 7 (and England the rest). Anyone not proud to be an American has little understanding of what the world was like prior to democracy first taking hold.But many countries have many things to be proud of. It's not a competition. An American should be able to both be proud of America, and appreciate other countries - and of course admonish countries which do not empower it's people.At the same time, that does not mean one cannot also be apologetic for things like slavery, internment camps, our homeless rate, one of the highest prison rates, a currently dwindling middle class, knee-jerk racist reactions to terrorism and illegal immigration, one of the worst healthcare systems in the Western world.As a whole one is justified in being quite proud of America. However, not at the same time apologizing is counter productive. When we start ignoring our faults we more easily repeat them, and continue them.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Americans should be proud but apologetic

Ok I'm a liberal (yeah, I said that. I'm sure I'll hear from some Tea Partiers later) so my feelings on the subject of patriotism are pretty strong, particularly, the accusation that, because I'm a liberal, I'm somehow less patriotic. One of the most common misconceptions about liberals is that we are not proud of our country and we want to model it after Europe. his is far from true for most of us. At the same time, when I get hate mail from conservatives, they always make a point to say how great America is, and they're absolutely right about that. So what separates liberals from conservatives as far as national pride goes? Conservatives (from whom most of the patriotic boasting comes) prefer to tell the world what they can learn from America. Liberals, on the other hand, prefer to tell our fellow Americans what they can learn from the rest of the world. As America has moved further to the right lately, many conservatives seem to think it wrong for her citizens, to criticize her. I wish I had a dollar for every time I've been called a traitor, a communist, or a socialist, or some other epithet because of my views on universal healthcare, gun control, and workers' rights (principles that every other developed nation in the world have found a way to embrace). My point is, we as a people need to understand that, while America is a free nation, our freedom is not unparalleled. While we have a generally good healthcare system, it is not nearly as good as in some other countries. And if it can be done in Europe and Canada, it can certainly be done in America, the richest most powerful country on earth. And the lack of progress to this challenge is why liberals tend to be far more critical of America, than conservatives. It's not a lack of patriotism; in fact, it's quite the opposite. It's a belief that we, Americans, can make our country an even better place to live. We do have a lot to be proud of, yes. But we still have a lot to learn.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

I don't think that liberals are less patriotic, and I am a conservative. I do think that liberals see things form a different set of presuppositions that conservatives don't understand and so it is hard for us to understand how you could fell pride in this great country of ours while holding the positions that, generally speaking, liberals do.Okay, that said, our freedom is, or at least was, unparalleled for the greater part of two centuries. I think that the reason people don't seem to realize this is because most people who live here don't exercise and/or don't value all the freedoms that we enjoy in the United States of America. Case and point would be gun ownership. Many don't like the fact that you can own a firearm in the United States, and many more than that, don't own a gun. This freedom alone, separates us from most of the world. As for health care, we have THE BEST health care in the world. We lead the world in medical innovation. That said, it is also the most expensive in the world. A problem that could be made not as severe with an injection of the free market and Medicare reform. Please don't think I am being simplistic here. The explanations as to why those two things would help could fill volumes. When people start comparing Canadian or European health care to American health care the only thing you gain is less expensive. If we want to improve the health care industry in the United States lets look at solving some of the problems in our system before we throw the baby out with the bathwater.As for criticizing, it seems like (I said 'seems like') liberals criticize America for what is wrong with her, where as conservatives criticize what is wrong with America and love her for the freedom she provides. There is a difference.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

Good point. I didnt look at it that way thanks for bringing it up.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be apologetic.

Where do i begin with this almighty load of crap. The USA has alot more to be ashamed of than to be proud of my friend. "One of the highest living standards"Yes you have one the highest living standards, you also have more inequality than most countries who barely have 1% of your wealth.1% of your population controls 50% of your wealth. Ratiobnalize that one, actually dont."defeating nazi's"I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this but the cherished belief that America defeated the Nazis couldnt be more wrong. I hate when i hear that bullshit, its just not true. Any serious historian worth his salt (non American historian of course) will tell you the Red Army (i.e. Russia) were largely resposible for the fall of the Nazi's. They sacrificed 20million over the course of the second world war, they re-took Stalingrad which was the turning pt. in the war when for the first time the Nazis weere driven back. I could continue but you get the idea, fucks sake Britain did more than ye."we give more to impoverished countries than every other country in the world combined"I'm sorry this should be in reverse shoudlnt it. How do you think you acquired such wealth. Your corporations and government have taken more from impoverished countries than anyone. The aid you send is purely symbolic, it doesnt alleviate any of the suffering. I dont expect you to beleif me. Why dont you try lookin into the dealings of the IMF and world bank, two predominantly American Institutions. See what they've done to impoverished countries.I'm just gona leave at that if you respond ill continue telling you why what you say is wrong and why "At the same time, that does not mean one cannot also be apologetic for things like slavery, internment camps, our homeless rate, one of the highest prison rates, a currently dwindling middle class, knee-jerk racist reactions to terrorism and illegal immigration, one of the worst healthcare systems in the Western world" are just the tip of the ice berg.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

I believe the US is a standard for democracy across the globe. Starting from a colony going to a superpower in less than 200 years is an accomplishment. I know some of the past is bloody and unfair but still believe this nation is a force for good.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be apologetic.

Your deluded belief that the US is a force for good doesnt exist outside your country. What does that tell you. You do export democracy but you see its your special unique brand of democracy which basically makes a mockerey of the real meaning of the. Look into it, look at teh regimes propped up by the cia and goevernment in South America, Middle East, Asia, look at how at the kind of democracy that your government has forced on people, i cannot eve begin to tell you how wrong you are, my friend. You can eithert dismiss this as propaganda as its counter to what you hear on your tv screen, by the way your media is completely corrupt and serves big business (as does your government) but again you can dismiss that as propaganda as well OR you can look into what im saying, check it out for yourself with credible sources of info. (that basically rules out any major US meida outlet)The US station democracy now is a very station (just a suggestion)
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

yes thats why thousands of Mexicans sneak in every day there is no disputing this fact end of story.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

I am proud to be an American, and as an American, I don't have anything to apologize for.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be apologetic.

You should have plenty to be sorry for. No wait, wrong day. Thanksgiving, that's the day I was looking for.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

You should have plenty to be sorry for.Well I don't, so suck it up.Thanksgiving, that's the day I was looking for.What? Why? Thanksgiving is a day of be thankful. I have plenty to be thankful for.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: they are not mutually exclusive

... I wish you weren't American. You're one of the things I'm apologetic for.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

I wish you weren't American.dittoYou're one of the things I'm apologetic for.I'm touched that you care about me, but you should really worry about your own ass.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be apologetic.

Ditto? You mean you too wish that you were not an American? Deep down I always had the feeling the far right felt this way, it is why they are trying to constantly change the constitution while spewing how "constitutional" they are.And I'm not worried about you. It's just embarassing when a US citizen spews mindless talking points for convention's sake, instead of putting thought into a response. You become defensive on the subject. Like you need to out-patriot everyone else. However, what makes America great is questioning our own actions. If everyone went along like yourself, assuming everything America ever did must be correct by virtue of it being American, we would still have slaves, still have child labor, still have internment camps, etc etc.So, I'm not worried about you, I'm embarassed that one lucky enough as yourself to be a citizen of this nation, would so take it for granted.Hence, I wish you weren't an American, then maybe you'd learn something of what it is to be American.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

" putting thought into a response"- Pure elistist response, next comes the twisting of conservatism as approving everything America has ever done. Right from the liberal template. Please stay on subject.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

Ditto? You mean you too wish that you were not an American?When I said "ditto", I was simply copying the phrase you spoke, and redirected it at you, not agreeing with it.Deep down I always had the feeling the far right felt this wayWhen did I ever say I was on the far right side of the political spectrum? I am on the right, but not the far right. I'm not worried about youIf not me then who? You feel it your duty to protect others from me, because I am a simple home-lovin' American.And when did I say everything America ever did was correct? I didn't. You should stop putting words in my mouth.Hence, fuck off. You of all people trying to tell me what it means to be American. I am willing to defend this nation, abide by the Constitution, and do my civic duty.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

i don't think i could say it any better! It's to true and if you dispute this your a communist.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

I would be proud of my country wherever i would be, but America I love above most because we are big. REALLY big.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be apologetic.

Population wise, you are not the biggest, land size-wise, you are also not the biggest... so what do you mean by "big"? Size: Russia, Canada, USA, ChinaPopulation: China, India, USA
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

It is a great country, but a well rounded great; it isn't the best in many fields (but in the top 10 for most of them).
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

Greatest experiment in the history of mankind .
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

No country can be called the greatest overall country, but Americans should be proud.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

It is in our nature to be self-aggrandizing, though not necessarily individually. More often it manifests itself at the group level, in this case the national level. It is right that we should think ourselves to be the best, so long as we always strive to be better. To apologize is to be self-debasing and makes on seem weak to outsiders. If we were to be apologetic, other nations would simply relish in the opportunity to blame their misfortunes on us.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

America is great... but not as great as the UK where we can choose not to work and earn around the same as a full time employee from the benefits we receive. Only thing wrong with the UK is immigration and the Scottish who are too stupid to run their own country.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be apologetic.

UK is great because you can not work and make the same as someone working? Great for you you lazy selfish person. What about the guy working paying his way and your way. What train of thought makes that great. Please dont let America become this way.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

Understanding the history and flaws of our country is important. Being apologetic for what our predecessors have done is silly and futile. As long as we are the most clearly innovative and most principle-based country, what reason do we have to not be proud? Btw, we live in a democratic republic. Not a democracy.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

As long as we are the most clearly innovative and most principle-based country, what reason do we have to not be proud?Innovative? Perhaps.Most principle-based? Absolutely not. During the Cold war the USA had nuclear warheads in Turkey pointed at Russia. So the Russians decided they'd send warheads to Cuba pointed at the United States. Of course the United States wouldn't have any of this so they cried out to the globe like a bully who'd been beaten up and almost caused a devastating war. What of your many (if any) principles does this display?
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

America is great. Freedom among all citizens is fairly new idea. Tyranny and control has always been used and remains an old idea.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

You didn't phrase that as a question. whaaaaaaaaaaaaat nooooooooooooooow!
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

Only the liberal-whack-job kooks think otherwise! America is great and f the the rest!
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

If this country isn't so great, why is it that so many people are trying to come here ; )
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be apologetic.

You use such flawed logic Joe. The fact that your country has accumulated more wealth in certain pockets doesnt make it great in any way.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

OK, what do you consider to be a great country ?
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be apologetic.

I dont consdier any country great i think the whole idea is ridiulous, its just nationlism. why dont try thinkin in terms of worldism. Some societies and ways of living are better than others though but im not gona go into. I think you can suspect i dont have the American lifestyle on top of that list i.e. live as wastefully as possible, be ignorant, think your government can do no wrong when in reality they are fuckin you and everyone else right in the ass, live in a big house, drive a big car, have a wife with big fake tits, live a big piontless life (if you can call it that), eat more than you should need in 30 lifetimes, be egotistical and materialist in every way possible, ........etc, etc.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

live in a big house, drive a big car, have a wife with big fake titsActually my wife's tits are real. But I've seen the fake ones and they're not so bad ;)
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

Of course we are! Who are all these idiots that would think otherwise??? Oh yeah... DemocRATS!
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

As the only country in history that has destroyed dictatorships like Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan, and Saddam Hussein's Iraq and then rebuilt the nations as democratic nations rather than conquering, the US is the greatest nation on Earth.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

As a nation, we are responsible for the greatest number if liberations of dictatorships around the world. Many policies that have been enacted in recent years and even decades detract from American exceptionalism, but these actions differ from our fundamentals, the principles of the Constitution and a dedicated populace which have contributed to and will continue to contribute to American greatness.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

Oh, say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,What so proudly we hail'd at the twilight's last gleaming?Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thro' the perilous fight,O'er the ramparts we watch'd, were so gallantly streaming?And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,Gave proof thro' the night that our flag was still there.O say, does that star-spangled banner yet waveO'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?On the shore dimly seen thro' the mists of the deep,Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream:'Tis the star-spangled banner: O, long may it waveO'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!And where is that band who so vauntingly sworeThat the havoc of war and the battle's confusionA home and a country should leave us no more?Their blood has wash'd out their foul footsteps' pollution.No refuge could save the hireling and slaveFrom the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth waveO'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.O, thus be it ever when freemen shall stand,Between their lov'd homes and the war's desolation;Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the heav'n-rescued landPraise the Pow'r that hath made and preserv'd us a nation!Then conquer we must, when our cause is just,And this be our motto: "In God is our trust"And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall waveO'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

1. We have the greatest culture, the most culture, and the most varied culture. 2. We have the greatest economy,( even though there is a recession).3. Probably the highest standard of living given to so many people. (yes, Norway is ahead but it does not house 350,000,000 people).4. The largest drive for immigration, ( our country is so great there are people literally dying to get in).5. Once again our culture can be seen anywhere except for 2 or 3 nations where it is banned, but i doubt that the elite can avoid using our technology aka the internet, movies, video games, ect....6.We dominate 3 major world sports like boxing, basketball, baseball! go Heat!7. We aid every nation in need after a natural disaster.8. The champions of free markets, ( although the asshole democrats and liberals want to turn us into a socialist scumbag state that depends on the government too much).9. We are the safeguards of Human rights and Freedom and the first to truly enforce it and not just preach it.10. People who are generally hard working, and want to find the AMERICAN DREAM!12. We are 100% LOYAL and ready to die for our country, or make someone die for theirs if need be.13. Last but not least we are probably the only nation that is BLESSED BY GOD!BONUS: We also have the most kick ass military the world has ever seen! OORAH!!!!! Ladies and Gents, GOD BLESS 'MERICA!
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

Yes. It is the greatest country in the world because of its freedom and beauty.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be apologetic.

Define what would make a country great and I can almost garauntee America would not be anywhere near those standards.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

Inalienable rights to life ,liberty and the pursuit of happiness .
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be apologetic.

Do you really believe all that bullshit?It's one of the most fearful nations in the world. Scared of the government, terrorists, immigrants, canadians, blacks, mexicans, republicans, democrats, liberals, neighbours even family.The government (bankrolled by corporations) has you believe all this shit so that they can confuse you into the direction they want you to go. You're sheep. You just don't know it.
Debate: IS the USA the greatest country.
Side: Citizens should be proud.

Absolutely and not only do I believe it, I am living it. I have the freedom to pursue millions if I want it,speak what I want to speak,think what I want to think. There are countries where women can't be seen with another man that is not her husband or relative or be killed and all you do is bitch about the USA. There are countries where if you do not believe in a certain religion, or goverment you are imprisoned or killed and all you do is bitch about America.There are countries where you cannot invest and become a millionaire if you so choose and all you do is bitch about America. There are countries you cannot leave your city without a passport and all you do is bitch about America. Fearful??????? You haven't seen fear.You are fearful because you buy the media's bull. I am thankful I live here.