azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

why the hell then would ANYONE ever EVER say we are gods?From insanity? From delusions? The need to manipulate and control people? There aren't many other options.even in a story?Depends on the story and what it is meant for. If it is meant for entertainment then why not?if something like the supernatural exists, then it is not supernatural, but perfectly natural,Exactly.if you want to sit and learn how to explain life, go for it, why would you explain it? what is the point of explaining it?Why not if we can?And this is a debate site...what if spirituality is the missing link?It's not, it's simply the figuring out of one's life, or the more toward nonsensical definition.what if science ultimately fails and finds out god is an irrational formula?Science is not trying to prove god... Simply all of existence, very slowly. Science literally cannot fail, it is simply knowledge about existence."God" is already irrational, depending on the attributes you give it (mostly it's omnipotence, omniscience, omni- everything else - from those there are contradictions within the definition of god itself). A very powerful being would be enough, no omni- crap - no contradictions and simple.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
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Do you happen to be in a mental hospital? Just curious .
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

I'm guessing you believe in all of the government conspiracy's too?
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

none of it adds up, and our government is too confused to do conspiracies, so no, not government conspiracies, try real conspiracies, the conspiracy to rule the world isnt a myth, thats been envisioined for along, long time
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

Ok thx for letting me know the extent of your insanity .
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

Whatever. You are so massively paranoid. Don't be surprised when the world is still functioning correctly in 2013. I will personally scoff at all the gullible fools, then.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

Im not paranoid, dont be surprised when the world is functioning under a fourth reich in 2013
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

so you are a troll, nice job.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

What are you going to do when the fourth reich don't happen?
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

So Romney going to win 2012 elections? .
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

Do you also belive in unicorns bigfoot loch ness monster elfs etc.?
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

i have no reason not to believe in them until i get 100% proof that they dont exist, but it doesnt really affect my life in any way negatively, if anything it opens my mind up to the possibilities, i just acknowledge they could be real
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

How about Santa? Does he exist?
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

your asking stupid questions, what we are talking about is a whole societys entire belief system, that they were murdered for having, so stop with the annoying questions, these are important issues, sorry to tell you but history didnt just stop creating itself, if you dont notice the economy can never be repaid, israel is on the verge of attacking iran, and i mean, honestly if you dont care about your own history and past, that isnt in the history books that are force fed to you, thats fine, we all are entitled to believe what we want to, at least i dont ridicule you for your beliefs, no matter how illogical they may seem to me
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

your asking stupid questions, How was that stupid if stupid is all you have given?what we are talking about is a whole societys entire belief system,No, you've been talking about your belief system that makes no sense at all.so stop with the annoying questions, Stop with the annoying nonsense.these are important issues,The fantasy you make up as you go? Nope, not important in the slightest.sorry to tell you but history didnt just stop creating itself,Irrelevant.if you dont notice the economy can never be repaid,Irrelevant. israel is on the verge of attacking iran,They're all brainwashed morons there. It'd be a happy day for me if they wiped each other out. Less religious fanatics. and i mean, honestly if you dont care about your own history and past, that isnt in the history books that are force fed to you, thats fine, Who are you? Srom? Someone else?Learning history in details is a waste of time. Knowing it in details is pointless.we all are entitled to believe what we want to, at least i dont ridicule you for your beliefs,My beliefs are based on logic, facts, and reality. no matter how illogical they may seem to meThat because you have no idea what logic means. You lack it yourself.You're srom, right? Would be nice to have an IP confirmation... to know for sure.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

So let me get this straight.... basically spirituality means nothing to you? The very thing that gives us spirituality (concious awareness of ourselves) is what makes us human, i am not srom, but i am sick of arguing with you, the economy and israela nd iran points to imminent world war 3, if israel attacks iran it will have a HUGE effect, and your "science" will fall to pieces as we focus on military might and not learning about the universe, and also americans are brainwashed idiots, more so than the east, i know this because i grew up around mind games and controlling people, i know it when i see ityour beliefs are based on what you are told is true, which the first step to full control of the masses is to control all the information that is given.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

basically spirituality means nothing to you?Spirituality has more meanings than just "an ultimate or an alleged immaterial reality; an inner path enabling a person to discover the essence of his/her being." There's also "or the "deepest values and meanings by which people live." (wiki)About a year ago I found out that I've been doing something very similar to spirituality for years (the second definition).One way of interpreting is mostly nonsense. The other is not.the economy and israela nd iran points to imminent world war 3,No, they don't. Although it's been a while since the last BIG war, so something might well be coming within the next few decades, if not sooner. Some things have been going downhill...if israel attacks iran it will have a HUGE effect,Why should it? Sane people do not (should not at least) really care about those religious morons.and your "science" will fall to pieces as we focus on military might and not learning about the universe,Learning about the universe won't stop. Science will advance even as a war goes on, if not for the purpose of finding out more than for the purpose of exceeding the enemy.and also americans are brainwashed idiots, more so than the east, i know this because i grew up around mind games and controlling people, i know it when i see itAmericans really are, a lot of them anyway. East? When you get all the way to Russia then you'll discover it's even worse there. In the middle, the sanest countries on Earth (some are scattered around elsewhere).your beliefs are based on what you are told is true, I tell myself what is true? And what I tell myself comes from observation, logic, all the good stuff? Sounds about right.If someone tells me something I think first, not just blindly follow.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

well there is an entire spiritual ladder to climbif israel attacks iran, china and russia will defend iran, also, did you not read the story of the akula sub found in the gulf of mexico that went undetected for a month? somethings happening, not to mention the fact they have sent 12 warships and 90000 troops to syria, tis quite alot of shitit will have a huge effect because its a WORLD WARive been observing all my life, and the things ive observed and experienced are not logical in the sense most would say is logical, so i have no choice but to believe in what i believe, im not claiming im some prophet or some holy man, but i am pretty damn awake to the world and whats happening, and its been like that since my childhood, i may just be mentally ill, which could very well be a possibility, but i like to stay optimistic and different, conforming is illogical to me, you dont know where you are being led
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

well there is an entire spiritual ladder to climbNo, there is not.There is? Proof?if israel attacks iran, china and russia will defend iran, also, did you not read the story of the akula sub found in the gulf of mexico that went undetected for a month? somethings happening, not to mention the fact they have sent 12 warships and 90000 troops to syria, tis quite alot of shitI know shit happens and I know shit will happen but I have no idea when, whether tomorrow or after fifty years.Try living next to Russia... It's a constant threat.it will have a huge effect because its a WORLD WARNearer to the poles you are the safer it'll be 'cause the middle, well, a crater. Earth will probably look like an apple... and not the fresh and uneaten kind. Whenever it will happen, if at all, probably will.are not logical in the sense most would say is logical, so i have no choice but to believe in what i believe,You do have choices. You seem to be very credulous, try sift out the crap. Not everything you feel is true.conforming is illogical to me, you dont know where you are being ledConforming? Why would I conform with the current messed up state of things? I'm pretty much against everything that currently is held in effect, there's very little that wouldn't need change for the better.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

but the Mayans are the end all, they studied this thing for a living practically, all other predictions were pointless, because the 2012 prophecy is the end all,But Mayans did not have leap years so according to the Mayans calculation the end of the world should of already happened
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

you have to understand the mayans lived without time, events is what determines when prophecy is near, not time, and the world events going on now line up perfectly with prophecy, and earth is going to have to cleanse itself eventually, its way out of frequency thanks to us
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

yes there has been many prophecies but the mayans are the end all, they studied this thing for a living practically, all other predictions were pointless, because the 2012 prophecy is the end all, no more after it, and now thanks to all the boys who cried wolf, we will not notice the wolf coming.The world won't end. All it was, most probably, was the end of one of their long cycles and the beginning of a new long cycle.Either way. Proof that it will end? Real, tangible proof.yes but the experience they were trying to interpret, you dont understand, people who claim to have reached a full conciousness, they most likely experienced an eternity This is nonsense.Proof? from before creation all the way to the end,This is nonsense.Proof? the prophecies written were by people who had attained universal conciousness,This is nonsense.Proof? and when you just come out af an experience that lasts an eternity and come back to the restriction of the human perception of time, will make one go insaneThis is nonsense.Proof? but the experience was real nonetheless,This is nonsense.Proof? they saw all of what is to be seen when standing outside of timeThis is nonsense.Proof?Wait... I could've included it all in one... Oh, well, changing it is easy but I'm not in the mood.Everything you said has no proof, at all. It's all fantasy.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

if you like to be confined in a box, thats cool, why dont you watch perceivingreality.com to gain a better focus of what i am talking about
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

The only focus there is to gain about you is something I already have - that you spew nonsense.I know what a box is like; I assure you, I'm not in one. But you are, what makes it even worse is that it seems to be of your own creation.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

Have you studied the Mayan calendar? I hate to say that the supposed doomsday prophecies were all actually made up, or rather misinterpreted.All 2012 is on the calendar is the start of the 14th Baktun (apologies for spelling, I don't remember where the apostrophes go). The Mayan calendar actually goes way past 2012, some events being prophecised in the year 4000.There really is nothing to worry about.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

Yes i know its a new cycle, and when a new cycle starts, energy levels will be way higher, i never said it was the end, i said it was a rebirth, and a rebirth is probably not going to be an easy adjustment
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

So you are trying to separate one man made thing from another. God from religion... please tell me how they are separate. without one there cannot be another, without religion there would be no notion of god, and vice versa, without god there would be no religion (there would be ways of living, Buddhism for example. But that is not really a religion, it is more an accepted way of life, brought on by the teachings of a great man. Not for any god or deity but for oneself) .
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

because religion is a man made organization that attempts to control through fear, like jesus said the road to god is an INNER apath, and whether or not jesus existed doesnt matter, i feel the results working, and if it works for me and a shit ton of other people, in my book, thatts good enough proof for me, maybe not you because you dont believe: test yourself, to see if you are of the faith... realize christ is within all being, unless, of course, you fail the test?
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

LOL without one there can not be another are you blind? You dont need religion to find god, god is within us, god is the universal life force that keeps everything going, and we are a part of that force, so of course it is within us
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

you all ask for physical evidence, but none of you realize that the physical senses can NOT sense the truth, you must learn to shut down your senses and focus them inward, thats the only way you will ever get proof of god, and the proof is there, but you fail to acknowledge it and brush it off as bullshit, it seems to me like atheists just arent ready to accept life, you know what they say there are no atheists in fox holes
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

you all ask for physical evidence, No, only silly atheists would ask for empirical evidence of God. but none of you realize that the physical senses can NOT sense the truthSo you disagree with empiricism? What, dare I ask, is your chosen method of epistemology?you must learn to shut down your senses and focus them inward, thats the only way you will ever get proof of godAh, I see. The only way to prove God is to shut down your brain and rational thinking, and let the crazy juice flow from within...and the proof is there,Show me the proof. but you fail to acknowledge it and brush it off as bullshit, it seems to me like atheists just arent ready to accept life, you know what they say there are no atheists in fox holesWhat is it with these ridiculous myths? Atheists do accept life, life without a God, a life so much more fulfilling and rewarding than being held by imaginary shackles.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

Yep, shutting down your brain is exactly what i said, not focusing your senses inward, yep you are a genius edit imaginary shackles? are you kidding me? you know nothing about god and base your assumptions of of it according to what most organized religions say, i believe in god and i am not shcakled by chains, quite the opposite, in fact
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

Why does everything he said make sense, and everything you say... not make sense? Are you just inventing things? Do you think I am not introspective? That I don't peer inward at my own personality and feelings and life? Or do you mean I should cut out my eyes, my arms and legs, all senses until everything is unmoving darkness?What good does it do? Reality exists outside, not in my head.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

um, our senses sense things, and they go through our mind first before being broken down into something we can understand, so if you want to know what your senses are truly perceiving, you need to see what is being filtered out.... and your beliefs directly affect what you perceive, so yes, reality kind of DOES exist in your head...here learn something new about life http://www.swamij.com/indriyas.htm
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

That website looks nice, but how do you prove it?You can't prove something with your mind, that's just fantasy. If what you are doing has no real life effects, then who cares? Even if it is true, what does it matter? Well, if what is true..? What are you even trying to prove? That stuff that can't ever be proven is true? HA.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

what i am trying to say, is that the physical senses are unreliable tools for exploring the truth, if what you are doing has real life effects on YOUR life, then YOU should care, what i am trying to prove is that proof is INSIDE YOU, everyone gets the same proof, but our understanding of it is different for everyone, everyone is unique, which is why religion fails and spirituality works
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

Unreliable? You clearly haven't been in a science lab. To be accurate, you must perform the same experiment many times. If it fails even once, then it is unreliable, but until then, it is reliable.To use powerful microscopes to look at atoms is possible even. The smallest thing possible to see is visible. Nothing is smaller.This sort of science proves that what we see are unreliable.However, on a personal level, such as regarding yourself, perhaps your senses are unreliable due to a mental disorder. This isn't an insult, only a guess as to why you are telling me reality is unreliable and fantasies within the mind are not unreliable.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

ever heard of synaesthesia? that right there is proof our senses are unreliable for PERCEIVING TRUTH, our senses are great for making sense of what we see, but you dont understand at all what im trying to get at, reality is reality, we can see it, but guess what? there is a SHIT TON that we CAN NOT PERCEIVE EXTERNALLY AND ONLY INTERNALLY, can you use a powerful microscope to see WHY your brain gives you the senses? science will NEVER be able to explain WHY anything happens
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

Bullshit .
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

Why?Are you joking? You think you can find out why from shutting off your brain?Anyways, science is just the slightest bit about "why". Science explains how it happens, and the mechanisms for action. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36GT2zI8lVA
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

ITS NOT SHUTTING OFF YOUR BRAIN ITS SHUTTING OFF YOUR EXTERNAL SENSES OH MY GOD
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

If you shut out your external senses you cannot perceive anything. It's just you with your fantasy.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

you are disputing 20,000+ years of focusing inwards, dumbass, why dont you all watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dbh5l0b2-0o And dont call me a hypocrite for showing this video, this video is the logical explanation of what im trying to say
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
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49 minutes? No thanks.Your arguments make very little sense. There's nothing logical about them.20 000+ years? Or you mean the time we humans have had our abstract thoughts that can produce such crap as that you have produced here?Don't dispute reality with fantasy. Okay?
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
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49 minutes is nothing if you really want to learn more about life, and yes shamans have been around for 20,000+ years, and what they did internally, and what we do internally, has results on the external world.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

Learn more about life??? I know more about life than you do, apparently. Fantasy is not knowledge about reality nor about life.What is the purpose of life? You know? Just curious.Shamans? Wtf!? There is no magic!What we do internally, within ourselves, has no effects on external world.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

obviously, by saying that, you dont know anything about life.The purpose of life is to grow and help others grow, is it not? Thats what life all around us is doing isnt it?Shamans... there is "magic" but you would never understand it over the internet, it would have to be explained in person, what we do internally, our emotions and thoughts, affect how we act in the external world, which in turn affects every aspect, its called the butterfly effect, and before you call me insane again, no, not as in the movie
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

obviously, by saying that, you dont know anything about life.You think the fantasy you have formed is knowledge about life? It is not.The purpose of life is to grow and help others grow, is it not? Thats what life all around us is doing isnt it?It's survival. Not just to grow and help others grow.Shamans... there is "magic" but you would never understand it over the internet, it would have to be explained in person, what we do internally, our emotions and thoughts, affect how we act in the external world, which in turn affects every aspect, its called the butterfly effect, and before you call me insane again, no, not as in the movieMagic literally does not exist. Magic is of supernatural and that doesn't exist either.Would have to be explained in person? You kidding me? If you can explain it in person you can also explain in over the internet (it's easy to make videos), so go ahead and start explaining!Of course some of what we come up with affects how we act. You perceive the world, you form thoughts accordingly, then you act accordingly, sometimes you act stupidly, someone else perceives you and repeats the process. We can only act if we first perceive something to act upon.The butterfly effect? It's useless if you cannot predict the future.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NRH8McTn2r8&feature=relmfu Yeah, I wouldn't waste my time with that video either.Even if the video isn't that bad, without peer review, it's worthless. Best to wait until some professionals look at it and try to get real information out.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: no

What do you mean by focusing inwards?You mean shutting off senses? That creates fantasy, not information.It's impossible to get information from nothing. That's what a lot of greek philosophers did. They thought certain things, and because about half of it was wrong, and they never bothered to experiment with reality and learn the truth, they kept their people in a dark age.If you mean thinking about what you know and trying to organize and sort it in new ways, then sure, that's fine. Nothing wrong with thinking about what you already know, but to know things, such as language, shapes, physics or really anything, including people, you must have already taken in sense data, through external senses.
Debate: is atheism just a cop out?
Side: yes

Well the whole point of this argument was is atheism just a cop out to not explore the possibilities of the divine/afterlife, and so far id say it is, if you want to know the truth of what you can never learn, you MUST go inwards, into non physical reality, but its not just as easy as closing your eyes and pulling out info from what you see, it is an entire science to it, it takes years of practice, but it works