azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: yes

God did not make gay people, he made adam and eve, man and woman. the gay people decide to experiment with man and man, etc. god had no part in this one.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: yes

anything goes in this twisted society of ours.. freewill is taking a nasty turn, mankind could be wiped out..
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: yes

what causes a person to fancy the same sex. is it something /somewhere in your brain or gene pool. im just concerned is everybody on the planet going to turn into a gay person. is this is a natural thing to be gay, then are more of us at risk from changing, im feeling worried that it could happen, everyone turns gay and mankind gets wiped out. is this a virus, that will turn us around, because theres more and more people gay, than there ever was..
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: yes

please god dont let me turn gay, im not ready for the same sex. . or it could be the devils idea of fun, turning us into some peoples worst nightmares. my worst nightmare is finding the same sex appealing yum. ill keep praying lord for the human race, whats next in store for us, to be wiped out in 2012, ok thats my next debate...
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: yes

look be happy all you gays, to show no hard feelings, but please just dont come near me, i will throw up on you... happy bumting, best of balls. bums up
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

"John 1:3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made" If you're going to resort to having your fictional book back you up, then I will use a quote from your fictional book to debunk your claim.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: yes

It says clearly in the books of the bible that being gay is wrong, also if you are thinking in biology terms, animals are supposed to mate (male to female) in order to reproduce and support the continuation of the species. also its nasty (just saying). However, hating them endlessly for it, like for example, saying "God hates fags" is a bit extreme in my mind. This is obviously a mental problem (like any other) and needs to be dealt with in a calm civilized manner
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

i am just curious i do go to church and am a christian yet i have yet to see it in the bible that gay is wrong yes i can agree that biologically speaking it wont work but i have never seen gay is wrong in the bible. but you should check this link out an think a little bit. http://www.gaychristian101.com/does-the-bible-say-homosexuals-will-go-to-hell.html
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: yes

I believe it is bad for our society. I am not against of homo couples, but generally it is wrong. It is not natural. We cannot say it is good, right. We cannot promote this kind of orientation. What would be with our society if everyone start considering homosexuality is normal, and there is nothing wrong with this? Society will degrade, lose moral values and parents will raise children with unhealthy views. However we cannot judge single sex couples because of their orientation, they have right to live whatever kind of life they want to.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

Well houses are not natural clothes are not natural paper is not natural their are lots of things that are not natural yet we still accept them.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

Cuaroc(108), I support you in this. As a meta ethical philosopher, One always has free will, by which it means that he is of his own choices and judgment, if a particular person has chosen such path, whatever it may be, none of the others should and shall judge it for the act is personal, none of the others would be affected by a personal act. Say that for example one thinks that eating chocolates are bad for it is somehow derived from pigs, doesn't prove that you will contradict others who eat them or in other words what your beliefs are, are yours for the keeping, if you do not like one thing, do not pursue it to others to dislike and contradict it the same way you do, and of course the same applies to religion.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

My short rebuttal for your view is posted as a support for one of my ally that disputed you.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

If you are not against it, how can you say its not natural? People cannot help the way they feel about others. You are saying that it is not natural for people to do what they feel to do naturally. Homosexuality can be normal, there is absolutely no moral values that will be lost by these views, and I can see no way how these views are 'unhealthy.'
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

it is natural enough to be genetic. although you can change you sexual orientation, most people who are gay were born gay but some changed although that makes no difference in the fact being homosexuality is not unnatural
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: yes

You cant be born gay you stupid ignorant fool. read your bible
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

WOW, you use the bible as a source? I am not a christian you moron
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

I loveth me a girl, and I loveth me a boy.... I am pretty sure, God doesn't hate anybody.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

Homosexuality is now wrong. It is never wrong to have feelings for anyone. Homosexuality is as common in nature as the grass on the ground.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: yes

Homosexuality is always wrong. God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

What an awful argument.God created no one, he is a human construction, to explain the unexplainable (at the time of his creation, science has that shit sorted now). However, he also created gays, are they wrong? Why would he people that are so 'wrong', if he is all powerful? Why would he make gay animals? Why would he tell people to love everyone, to be nice people, to forgive people for their sins, yet expect you to persecute people based on their actions? The religious approach makes no sense.Also, if you follow Leviticus in regards to gays, why not all the other bullshit in the bible? Killing people who have tattoos, who work on the Sabbath, the selling of daughters? The banning of shrimp, bowl hair cuts, and being mean to people (oh wait, that's a contradiction!).Your argument is baseless, irrational, and contradictory. Try harder.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

I know right? He created Adam and Eve over Adam and Steve to reproduce and you can't bring religion into debate.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: yes

Se hello Ben,First I would like to point out that you contradict yourself by saying God didn't create anyone but then you say he created gays. God did us humans and science has not found the source or when life began. Yes we know how children are made, but we can not trace it back with science. Also by referring to Leviticus is a bit irrelevant because the Laws in the Old Testament were fulfilled by Jesus dying on the cross. Because of the New testament we now know that we are saved by Faith and Paul teaches us that in the New Testament. You definitely have an argument but it is not convincing. To improve it I would advise to be more careful with your first statement. That really rubs a lot of people the wrong way. In order to make your claim in support of homosexuality you need to consider many things such as scripture. But if you use scripture, more than one reference is needed. You are a bit ambiguous and unclear within your argument. Also an attack on religion does not justify your argument. I appreciate your efforts.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

First I would like to point out that you contradict yourself by saying God didn't create anyone but then you say he created gays.First of all, I asserted my own opinion, and after that I went to prove that those who disagree are contradicting themselves.God did us humans and science has not found the source or when life began.The 'God of the gaps' argument holds no ground. I also do not see ignorance as a good explanation for God.Also by referring to Leviticus is a bit irrelevant because the Laws in the Old Testament were fulfilled by Jesus dying on the cross.I have three problems with that answer. First of all, why would any law not be permanent, humans haven't changed, we should live under the same laws, and any omniscient God should have only created laws that are permanent. Or do you think that the laws you live under should be changed later on in the future?Second of all, regardless of whether or not the teachings are enforced, I would not subscribe to a God which preaches such discriminatory ideas, gays are no different to anyone else and should be treated as such.Finally, in reality, people do discriminate against gays, the debate is not over religion as such, but over the discrimination of gays. I'm simply proving that their explanation for their actions are flawed.To improve it I would advise to be more careful with your first statement. That really rubs a lot of people the wrong way.Anyone that thinks that 'Homosexuality is always wrong', or that 'God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve' is a good argument does not know what a good argument is, and I'm more than happy for them to be annoyed with my debate. Were I debating on religion as a whole, I would never be so brash, but that does not mean I shall be forever nice.In order to make your claim in support of homosexuality you need to consider many things such as scripture.No scripture has been proven to be the world of an all powerful God, and holds little to no value to me. Obviously they are strong words, I agree, and I am happy to use them to convince theists who do believe in them, that I am in the right, but I shall not look to them for moral guidelines.You are a bit ambiguous and unclear within your argument.Query my argument, I shall respond with more details. There is much to say on this topic, I only spent a few minutes on that argument.Also an attack on religion does not justify your argument.I never mentioned an attack on religion, nor do I think there is one. I'm simply speaking my mind.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

you ever heard of this word? ITS FUCKING FREEWILL YOU BASTARDS BESIDES WHO ARE YOU TO JUDGE OTHER PEOPLE JUST FOR DOING WHAT THEY FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH AND IF YOUR SO-CALLED "GOD" HATES "FAGS" THEN WHY THE HELL DID HE LET THIS HAPPEN THINK ABOUT IT YOU IGNORANT FUCKTARDS
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: yes

wow colourful words freewill aye you like homos thats ur freewill well mine is to hate gays am i allowed to or dont i have a choice think about it you nice guy
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

You know one day people will look back at what everyone did to gays, like hating them or not letting them marry. Women have gotten rights, blacks have gotten right, it's about time gays do too. Every wrong is eventually righted and all people were created equal.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: yes

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Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: yes

god didnt let this happen, did he, busy with his wife. the devils playing around having his fun, he did it.. the devil let it happen... freewill works in the devils favour as well... dont you know..
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

God let the devil happen knowing what the devil would do. And seeing as how humanity is a little outmatched by Satan, it's kind of up to god to stop it, that is if he wants to. So yes, god let it happen.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

A person is a person, regardless of gender. It is just ridiculous to ridicule someone for loving someone of the same gender. Love is love, no matter who it is between.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

of course not… loving someone is never wrong. i've never been able to understand why some people are homophobic.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

how is someones right to choose weather they date women or men wrong ? if someone is gay no one has the right to tell them they can't be gay because their is nothing wrong with it, if a person does not like the fact that someone is gay they don't exactly have to go near then do they ? gay people are just like straight people except from the fact that they prefer to fall in love with their own sex rather then the opposite sex. i am a straight man but i have no problem with gay people because i know that it is their own choice to be gay and its nothing to do with me, if a person hates a gay person that much then why can't they just leave them alone instead of acting like a idiot.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

For those who may have made a "yes" comment claiming that homosexuality is wrong because it says so in the bible, have you ever thought someone is attractive? I ask because the bible also says that to look upon someone with an approving eye is wrong.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: yes

the bible also says God made man for woman and woman for man
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

The idea that someone is wrong due to their sexual orientation is similar to saying someone is wrong due to their race. Our first amendment right allows people to admit that they are homosexual, and also we are all created equal. Someone being homosexual makes them no different from someone who is not.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

i do not believe a individuals sexual or emotion opinion is wrong.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

if god hated gays then why did he make them so cute??? (:
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

From the American Declaration of Independence:"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."This statement asserts some of the fundamental principals on which the United States government was founded, and I can think of no legitimate reason any civilized person should disagree with it.That said, if two (or more) individuals are in a homosexual relationship which brings happiness to all involved while harming no one, nor violating anyone's rights in the process... I fail to see where the problem is.Maybe people just find it gross? Obscene? Distasteful? Offensive? Well... that's nice, but it's just an opinion. I mean, I find rap music to generally be all of the above lol. Doesn't mean I think it is "wrong" in a sense that it should be banned or censored though. I'm sure there are plenty of other things to be more offended by and upset about these days than people's sex lives.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

I dont think so because, you cant tell or force to like someone or something that dont believe or like, and god loves everyone, because no one is perfect, i think that was the reason we were made to make mistake and to fix them, and go wont turn his head just because you do something he does like, just as long as you believes in him, god loves every single one of us.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

You define to me what wrong is and maybe I'll agree with you homophobic wizards. Seeing as everyone's opinion of wrong is different nothing can be truly wrong, therefore disproving that homosexuality is, as you call it, "wrong."
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

So... the Pope says that being gay is against the bible...Says the 70 year old, single, man... wearing a cape.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

it's not wrong, only disgusting and unnatural. I respect them though (I would rather stay neutral if possible)
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

"Well, I say that homosexuality is not just a form of sex, it is a form of love, and it deserves our respect for that reason."-Christopher HitchensThat is all
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

I say its ok. Its all a matter of presective. You think that that jar is half full, i half empty. You like COD i like Halo.Some prefer paintball some prefer airsoft.Some like women other like men.I see no problem in likeing the same sex.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

No. Homosexuality is normal just as heterosexuality is normal.
Debate: Is homosexuality wrong?
Side: no

Like my grandfather said: it's not wrong if you pray afterwards.
Debate: Homosexual males should be able to donate blood.
Side: Agree

They test all the blood that gets donated to prevent it from being used, if you test positive you are banned from ever donating anywhere in the US, so I don't see a problem with letting everyone donate.
Debate: Homosexual males should be able to donate blood.
Side: Agree

Exactly! It's not like the doctor draws your blood then swivels around and injects it right into someone else!
Debate: Homosexual males should be able to donate blood.
Side: Disagree

There is a false-negative probability of these tests, which is so small that the overall chance of infecting someone through donated blood, is insignificant.However, when we know that a certain group has a much higher probability of being infected, then the for them the overall probability to infect someone by donating blood can be unacceptably high.
Debate: Homosexual males should be able to donate blood.
Side: Agree

However, when we know that a certain group has a much higher probability of being infected, then the for them the overall probability to infect someone by donating blood can be unacceptably high.Okay, give me a number, at what point does the ratio of total donors to false negative tests become unacceptably high?
Debate: Homosexual males should be able to donate blood.
Side: Disagree

If I were in charge, I'd say that this number is unacceptably high, when the mean number of infections by a given disease, trough blood donation, becomes higher than one. Given that everyone donates at the same time, so we compare that value for gays to the value for the whole population.
Debate: Homosexual males should be able to donate blood.
Side: Agree

Let me make my question easier to answer, per 100,000 donors, how many false-negitive HIV tests would it take to be unacceptably high?
Debate: Homosexual males should be able to donate blood.
Side: Agree

I don't know, that's not up to me to decide.But whatever that actual number is, it would be statistically 44 times higher among gay men, than among straight men. And that would push the overall number significantly.I mean the actual number, not the limit set by somebody.So, what I mean is, for gays as a group, this number is around 44 times higher.
Debate: Homosexual males should be able to donate blood.
Side: Agree

Until you can come up with where the line is from acceptable to unacceptable, there is no point for you to post an argument.
Debate: Homosexual males should be able to donate blood.
Side: Disagree

44 times more likely seems big enough.I mean, if you knew right off the bat that someone is going to be forty four times more likely to pass on the condition, would you still go for it? That just sounds like a bad move.
Debate: Homosexual males should be able to donate blood.
Side: Agree

Please provide me with a ratio of infected blood donations to total blood donations that you would find acceptable.
Debate: Homosexual males should be able to donate blood.
Side: Disagree

I guess that once you get to 5-8 times I would draw the line.I fact checked the whole 44 times.http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/risk/gender/msm/facts/index.html It' 2010 reports.Let's see, you divide the 2 percent by the 63 percent and you get a 31.75 times more often of new HIV for gay and bi males compared to everyone in the rest of the country.http://aids.gov/hiv-aids-basics/hiv-aids-101/statistics/ And with .1 percent with HIV or AIDS and almost exactly 3/4 of the cases male you get .75 percent (roughly for ALL males). So, gay/bi males are 21 times more likely to contract HIV than any male, and gay/bi mark at around 57 times more than a straight one, if my math is correctRace is a HUGE factor as well. The last link that I pulled does an excellent job pulling that. You also need to keep in mind that it's going to be difficult to figure out if someone is gay when they volunteer.sigh I'm done, I had to do freaking algebra just to figure out the rates with (rough) figures since none of the studies answer it directly.
Debate: Homosexual males should be able to donate blood.
Side: Agree

I'm pretty sure you math is wrong, the numbers you produced aren't really anything I can use. The number I need from you is the ratio of infected blood donations to total blood donations that you find acceptable. You can write it as: InfectedBlood/TotalBlood
Debate: Homosexual males should be able to donate blood.
Side: Disagree

The point that I was trying to illustrate (more accurately) is that gay men donating blood will dramatically increase the rate while not contributing to the amount much at all. I wouldn't want the rate to be multiplied for only a small amount more of the blood supply to be added. The rate of HIV transmission likelihood being raised would not be at all consistent with the total amount that gets added. A fixed rate simply would not apply. The rate wouldn't change much since only a small amount of a small group is contributing. That's why I'm using HIV prevalence in gay males, since that is the only factor that will be changed.
Debate: Homosexual males should be able to donate blood.
Side: Agree

I wouldn't want the rate to be multiplied for only a small amount more of the blood supply to be added.This is why I need a number. You don't understand that the rate that the risk increases is directly related to the amount of blood homosexual males donate.
Debate: Homosexual males should be able to donate blood.
Side: Disagree

I don't think that you're understanding my point. The rate wouldn't change much at all on the whole, but the only thing that matters is the rate among gay men which we could roughly speculate to have the same likelihood of HIV transmission times their increased prevalence. The rate on the whole is not what matters. The HIV rate among gay males is the only factor.
Debate: Homosexual males should be able to donate blood.
Side: Disagree

I'm going to try a different approach: Let's say that there is a society that has 50 times more of the HIV rate than ours does, and thus roughly 50 times the transmission rate. Should they be allowed to donate blood here? What if they made up 10 percent of our society, should they be allowed to donate blood here then? Why would it change anything if they only made 3-4 percent?
Debate: Homosexual males should be able to donate blood.
Side: Agree

Let's say that there is a society that has 50 times more of the HIV rate than ours does, and thus roughly 50 times the transmission rate. Should they be allowed to donate blood here? What if they made up 10 percent of our society, should they be allowed to donate blood here then?Yes and yes. Why would it change anything if they only made 3-4 percent?It didn't.
Debate: Homosexual males should be able to donate blood.
Side: Disagree

Well, that's just where we disagree. My point is, it's not about the total rate, it's about their rate. I would consider 50, 40, 30, 20, or even 10 times more likely to be unacceptable
Debate: Homosexual males should be able to donate blood.
Side: Agree

I understand we disagree, that's why I need that ratio from you, without it I can't even address your argument.
Debate: Homosexual males should be able to donate blood.
Side: Disagree

The only rate that matters is the rate of gay men with HIV since homogenizing them with the other groups doesn't account for the same rate. If an individual is 8 times more likely than the current rate then they should not be able to donate blood.
Debate: Homosexual males should be able to donate blood.
Side: Agree

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