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Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: Big bang theory

I agree with Xaeon. The 'uncaused causer' theory has always amused me. "Oh, nothing can exist without a cause.. Except god!"-it must be personal because it intended to create the universe.You have pulled that from nowhere! Without that point you cannot deduce god, so you've just slipped it in. The universe creation doesn't have to be personal, that's what the debate is trying to answer, so you can't use that point to prove itself. If it's personal there must be a god. You can't debate that the universe was created by god because it was created by god!
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

I explain why this is not the case in my response to xaeon above.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: Big Bang

While I like your argument much more than the other flaming pieces of ignorance on this side of the debate, I still see some serious flaws.You ask how the universe could have begun without God.One possible explanation is that the universe has simply always existed. Your assumption that "The universe began" is not necessarily true.Second, the laws of physics do not necessarily apply outside of our universe. Therefore it's entirely possible that something can indeed come from "nothing." Here "nothing" could mean "void" or "stuff beyond our universe about which it's impossible to know anything." So your assumption that "Everything... must have a cause" is also not necessarily true.With these flawed assumptions, the rest of your argument has no foundation."-[the cause of the Big Bang] must be personal because it intended to create the universe."This conclusion is definitely flawed. The cause of the Big Bang could very well have been accidental.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

why are you making stuff up? Science shows that the universe has NOT always existed. It had a finite beginning through the big bang. Show me one point of evidence that the universe always existed. You cant. Second, the laws of physics dont apply outside of our universe? Once again you are just making up crap. NO scientific evidence exists to prove your point.Something can come from nothing? Once again, science has zero evidence that something can appear from nothing. Please try to use actual science to dissprove God exists. All the scientific evidence points to a supreme being. Everything you said is wild accustations; which doesnt surprise me since that is all atheists have. Come back here after you have a sound scientific platform to stand on.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

Hello I am new to createdebate. Nice to meet you all. I will argue against the big bang theory if I may. Well sort of. Sure the universe could have started as a tiny dense ball that exploded. I don't have a problem with that. But what of the space around the tiny dense ball? After all, the tiny dense ball is the origin of time and space. How can you have time and space surrounding the tiny dense ball if the origin for time and space is within the tiny dense ball? Where can you find any room to explode? Something has to pre-exist time and space to create it. Something has to be timeless and spaceless. I simply ask you to think about time and space creation without getting caught in an infinite logical loop.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: Trying to explain the unexplainable

"How can you have time and space surrounding the tiny dense ball if the origin for time and space is within the tiny dense ball?"That's an interesting point. I never really considered it.However, this argument suffers from the same problem as all the other arguments on this side of the debate, that is: It is impossible for us to know anything about the stuff outside and beyond our universe. Maybe time and space are simply properties of our own universe and don't apply outside it's bounds. Time, space, logic, all of these concepts apply within our universe, but why should they apply outside of it? Further, since we can understand absolutely nothing about this possible stuff outside of our universe, why call it God?
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

Alroight enough of this bullshit, each of these things are theories, so neither of them can be proven true. I believe in a God. you believe the big bang thing. there each theories. nuff said
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: Big bang theory

The difference is that the big bang theory is grounded in reason whereas God is grounded in faith. Faith is not a strong foundation.Also, you are misusing the word "theory." The Big Bang is a theory. God is not.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

So you're saying that God is not a theory am I correct in saying this? If so, then you are saying that God can exist and that the Big Bang is just a thought. Faith is a foundation and you must MAKE it a strong foundation. It doesn't become a strong foundation on its own. And also I don't think the Big Bang Theory is grounded in reason because think about it, how can a totally RANDOM explosion create an amazingly complex universe and even more complex organisms such as ourselves? How are we even alive? What causes us to act the way we are? There is no scientific explanation for that because it will lead to even more questions that will result in even more questions until science is exhausted.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

In my opinion, God created the big bang, because to even have a "big bang" there has to be something greater out there. It just seems to make more sense to me to have a God that created this rather than just believing that something turned up from nothing.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

the big bang happend but didnt CREATE the world! because to cause the bb there has to be a greater power/force out there!
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

God created the big bang which created the world and the sun.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

my opinion..so... a big bang?explosions ie big bangs cause destruction, not life.This world could have been chance?Nope. watch the vid >>GOD is the only thing possible to create life... and He did. :) 'it would have been very difficult to explain why the universe would have begun in just this way, except as the act of a God who intended to create beings like us.' Professor Steven Hawking
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

This is logical. One would question, "How is everything so complex yet what is believed to create it is something so very random and not organized?" Only God or something else could have done this. Likewise, explosions only are destruction and how are they supposed to create something so complex when explosions disperse matter? I support this opinion.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

By contrast, if a closed system is far from equilibrium, its entropy will increase dramatically, which can compensate for a substantial entropy decrease of a local system. Thus, ordered structures are more likely to be created from a non-equilibrium state than an equilibrium state.http://www.wmposters.com
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

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Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

I believe that God initiated The Bing Bang as well as evolution. People try so hard to separate God and science when in reality they can coexist.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

I support God, but when you put evolution with God it makes no sense. Why would intelligent supernatural beings(God is three beings who think the same according to the Bible it is God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit) want there to be mutations to something mutilated when Humans were supposed to be made in His image. If evolution was true, why isn't there anything that's not fully developed into a certain organism such as an fish-lizard or lizard-ape or ape-human? Science and God can coexist but with certain concepts only.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

I will support god.....m physics student i did masters in that then also i will go for god......because big bang is just a theory...which is created by one man his assumption ....his guesses and not more than that....the person who is thinking how this world created...you,me and all people are made by god.....this beautiful nature....is by god..not by physics nor by any assumptions.....its a thinking of one person who is sharing his thoughts with u all................god created nature,this world and scientists and all subjects just to give proper defination to explain this world so...final god and scientists thinking exist...bcz they are inter connected with eachother......:)
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

Nothing can be created by a theory, so the debate itself is phrased incorrectly. I believe that the Bible is not to be taken literally, much like poetry. If you look at the story of creation in that sense, you see that the order in which everything formed is correct and that God existing in nothing and creating everything allows entirely for the Big Bang Theory to be correct on every millisecond that it describes. God has ever since guided all of the matter he created to form in the manner he decided upon. This is my interpretation of the Christian faith, and I feel it is a logical conclusion to be reached from the given evidence.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

god is laughing as he has successfully confused you with complex scientific calcutations of evolution of the world. :D he is waiting and seeing what more answers are you going to find by ways of researching. Still more beautiful fact is tht he himself empowered you to go researching.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

Okay, you say that the universe was created by the big bang. Answer these questions: What made the matter in the universe? The helium and the hydrogen atoms.What made the hydrogen and helium atoms? The Big Bang.What made the big bang? Let's take the oscillating theory but what made the oscillating theory? Until someone finds the answer to all these 'whats', GOD MADE THE UNIVERSE.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: Big bang theory

One question is able to trump your entire argument: What made God?
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: Big bang theory

What made the matter in the universe?Matter is just energy in disguise. And the law of conservation says that energy cannot be created or destroyed. Thus the energy may always have existed, in different forms. The truth is that we don't know though.What made the hydrogen and helium atoms?Hydrogen condensed from the initial energy, and helium came via nuclear fusion in the first protostars.What made the big bang?Probably quantum fluctuations in the inflationary model.what made the oscillating theory?Scientists.Until someone finds the answer to all these 'whats', GOD MADE THE UNIVERSE.Until someone finds the answer to all these 'whats', ALLAH MADE THE UNIVERSE.Until someone finds the answer to all these 'whats', ZEUS MADE THE UNIVERSE.Until someone finds the answer to all these 'whats', KRISHNA MADE THE UNIVERSE.Until someone finds the answer to all these 'whats', THE FLYING SPAGHETTI MONSTER MADE THE UNIVERSE.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

Before the moon was explored, there were concerns about the depth of meteoric dust on the surface of the moon. Space is full of dust and it falls on the moon and the earth as we travel through space. If the world and the moon were billions of years old, one would expect a layer of dust over 150 feet, but when we got to the moon, the dust only measured to be about an inch deep. Given the measured influx of dust currently, that would account for a few thousand years.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

Before the moon was explored, there were concerns about the depth of meteoric dust on the surface of the moon. Space is full of dust and it falls on the moon and the earth as we travel through space. If the world and the moon were billions of years old, one would expect a layer of dust over 150 feet, but when we got to the moon, the dust only measured to be about an inch deep. Given the measured influx of dust currently, that would account for a few thousand years. According to the bible, the world is about 6000 thousands old (this makes sense) but according to the science is billions of years. How is that possible?
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

If the big bang actually works, why don't u all people go make another big bang and make a new world? This place is kind of polluted.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

The Big Bang theory gets explained in the Quran that was revealed more then 1400 years ago..
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

because anythingthat has been designed needs a designer. So if the world is designed then God must have designed it.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

Scientists who make money by writing books and conducting research tend to support the big bang theory and many other therories because there well being depends on it.Please Note however that these scientists only have theories they do not have proof. Every few years someone comes along with a new theory and find ever smaller particles not known previously new planets , stars , and the list goes on. The truth is that scientists knowledge compared to the knowledge needed to make the universe we live in , is but a spec of sand on the beach man will never know all or even half the answersI support the idea that the world was designed and therefore there must have been a designer (its a good Job that Health and Safety wasnt around at the time as it would have been prevented)
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

Scientists who make money by writing books and conducting research tend to support the big bang theory and many other therories because their well being depends on it.Please Note however that these scientists only have theories they do not have proof. Every few years someone comes along with a new theory and find ever smaller particles not known previously new planets , stars , and the list goes on. The truth is that scientists knowledge compared to the knowledge needed to make the universe we live in , is but a spec of sand on the beach, man will never know all or even half the answersI support the idea that the world was designed and therefore there must have been a designer (its a good Job that Health and Safety wasnt around at the time as it would have been prevented)
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

A creative force we call God. God is merely a word a title given as a descriptive word for creator.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

think about it god made the big bang and thats how it happened
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

I cannot prove either but my belief is that God created the world and everything in it. The scientific theory speaks to the universe but not the things contained within it. Man is a remarkable and complex creature as is most every other thing that roams the earth. I cannot believe the Big Bang theory created all we have. In the end it doesn't really matter who or what created any of it. What matters is what we do with what is given us.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: Big Bang

"I cannot believe the Big Bang theory created all we have."Not directly, no. The Big Bang was just the initial event that set up the circumstances under which further complexity could develop. Why is that so hard to believe? If I may speculate, I believe that your (and other religious people's) difficulty in accepting this idea stems from the religious indoctrination beaten into your head since childhood. You have an emotional attachment to Christianity that prevents you from evaluating things clearly."In the end it doesn't really matter who or what created any of it."I agree with you to an extent there. But problems come up when Christians (and other religious people) do stuff like blocking stem cell research or preventing evolution from being taught in schools. If people would accept that belief in God is irrational, these problems would go away.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

Hello jessald! These "theories" have been argued throughout the decades and in the end, no one has absolute proof for any of it. It's total conjecture on all ends. I believe in God. You believe in science. Both of us are entitled to our beliefs, however, when it comes down to someone telling me I've been brainwashed by religious indoctrination or that I cannot evaluate things clearly because of an emotional attachment to Christianity, I'm afraid I must differ and take grave exception to the remark.I happen to be a Christian who believes in stem cell research and have no problem teaching the sciences or the theory of evolution in schools. I also believe in the 10 Commandments, the Golden Rule and the teachings of Jesus Christ, no matter who he was or was not. While I do not believe my faith in God is irrational in any way I am a person who is open to all ideologies and ideas whether or not they are based in religion or science. I, for one, didn't buy the entire ticket book simply because I was born into a Christian home.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: Science vs Faith

"telling me I've been brainwashed by religious indoctrination or that I cannot evaluate things clearly because of an emotional attachment to Christianity, I'm afraid I must differ"Not brainwashed, just strongly influenced. If you were raised Muslim, you would most likely be Muslim. If you were raised Atheist, you would most likely be Atheist. One's upbringing has a very strong effect on one's beliefs."I happen to be a Christian who believes in stem cell research and have no problem teaching the sciences or the theory of evolution in schools."I'm glad to hear that. I wish all Christians had such progressive views."I do not believe my faith in God is irrational... I am [open to religion or science]"Here's why science is rational and faith is not: evidence. Our idea of gravity is based on the observation that every time we drop something, it falls to the ground. If we dropped something and it did not fall, we would reevaluate our ideas about gravity. This idea of belief based on observed evidence is the foundation upon which we can build our knowledge of the world. Religious faith has no such foundation. It's true that we can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God. It's also true that we can neither prove nor disprove the existence of Invisible Pink Unicorns. However because there is no evidence that either God or Invisible Pink Unicorns exist, it is irrational to believe in either.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

To Kuklapolitan: your argument towards this debate is very much appreciated. Your argument states nothing but what you absolutely believe. it states the truth. that is what this debate is all about
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

Thank you so very much, that was kind of you to say unknown91 and much appreciated.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

No problem!! :-)
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

Well I liked it thief
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: Big Bang

God caused the big bang silly
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: Big bang theory

Where's your evidence?
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

God created the Big Bang (possibly)...
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

i belive god theroy dont ask my why but i do
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

Yeah, it's better not to ask questions when you believe in God. They don't like that very much.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: Big Bang

Ugh.Why does my tag say God?I would never use that tag in a debate like this. Trickery I say... or maybe a miracle O.oEven more so disputing my "God" tag leaves me with a "God" tag automatically...Miracles never cease, but I can fix a miracle... there, tag changed. Let none be fooled into thinking I hear voices in my head or see dead people on toast.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

as a guy said MAN cant create anny thing from nothing
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: Big bang theory

"man can't create anything from nothing"True, but that doesn't mean God did it. The fact is nobody knows how the universe came to be. Saying that God did it is just giving an easy answer to a hard question.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: Big bang theory

Aaaaaand, what exactly has that got to do with anything?
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: Something from nothing

If "man" can't create anything from nothing, what empirical evidence indicates that anyone/thing can? Barring any such evidence, I'd say that no ONE can create anything from nothing. Therefore if there IS a god, s/he must have come from SOMETHING. And so must the universe.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: Big bang theory

B%^ you got me good >.< then what created that created god?
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

I'll have to dig up some old textbooks on this one, but I do not believe that the big bang is attributed to man, which is why the universe has not yet overtaken its intended budget.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: Big bang theory

"I do not believe that the big bang is attributed to man"/facepalmSeeing as how humans didn't evolve until billions of years after the universe was created, I think it's fairly safe to say man was not responsible for the big bang.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

You think its fairly safe to say man was not respnsible for the big bang?? WTF, seriously, what has this got to do with it?
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: God

I don't think it has anything to do with it. That comment was the result of bit of sarcasm passing over my head. Read carefully and you can see what happened.
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: Big Bang

No kidding. That's what I was saying./reverse facepalm
Debate: Was the world really created by god or the big bang theory?
Side: Big bang theory

Don't worry. I got ya!