azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

we have scientific evidence that the flood of noah could not have happened. THINK ABOUT THIS : IF THE FLOOD OF NOAH HAPPENED, WE SHOULD EXPECT TO FIND THE REMAINS OF LONG DEAD ANIMALS AND PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD, BUT WE DO NOT FIND THIS AT ALL. DINOSAUR BONES ARE FOUND IN SEVERAL DIFFERENT LAYERS OF ROCK STRATA, AT DIFFERENT DEPTHS. IF THE FLOOD HAD HAPPENED, WE SHOULD EXPECT TO FIND DINOSAURS AND ALL OTHERE REMAINS IN THE SAME LAYER OF ROCK BUT WE DONT.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

INTELLIGENT DESIGN THEORY IS MERELY CHRISTIANITY MASQUERADING AS SCIENCE, BUT THERE IS NO REAL SCIENCE BEHIND INTELLIGENT DESIGN.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

For reasons that should be totally obvious, and which I would assume have been thoroughly fleshed out by others involved.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

In my own opinion i find that religion offers more excuses to wage horrific events such as war, a good example would be the Holy Wars and the countless fights for Jerusalem (which may i add was completely absurd). One thing about religion and religions like Christianity which focus on one god or deity is that despite there being no proof to their "god" they continue to believe, sure we can argue Jesus Christ and the Bible but there is no conclusive evidence that who was the son of god nor anything he did backed-up with countless non-religious and multi-religious evidence, in-fact the only bit of evidence that goes in detail about "miracles" Jesus performed is the Bible which i believe to be a hoax seeing as at this time period lots of wars we're being waged and religion proved it's self to be a good moral boost and motive as such Christianity can be seen as a method of control of weak minded people (my opinion). If one man one day started believing that computers we're his "god" everyone would declare him crazy yet when a bunch of people believe in this entity to be the one "true god" it's ok, but lets not forget how many time the Bible and the Church for that matter not only contradicts itself but uses lies as a weapon and belief as a control method. Much of todays society are pretty much forced into religion with out really having a choice or for that matter any reason to at all. I personally think religion (Christianity being the worst) is non other than a method of control and a pointless way of life, i mean because praying does you good doesn't it? You may as-well be talking to your self, you pray for money, sex, a better job, whatever, how about this, stop asking a fake being it and go out and get it for yourself, use those pointless minutes you spend on "praying" to something more productive, heck even if it's bazaar go for it, because it's way better then waiting for a 2000 year-old lie to "happen" again assuming that anything happened at all for that matter so in that case waiting for it to happen at all. C.R
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Neither. Agnostic is the true answer. People can believe there is a God or they can believe there isn't- but they can never know. I personally believe there isn't a God but I can never prove this definitely.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Sorry dude, but agnosticism is only a modifier. Everyone must still be either theist or atheist, one or the other, 100% of the time.Atheism is the lack of belief in gods. Babies are atheists.Agnosticism is where you claim something is unknown or unknowable.You can be an atheist-agnostic, or a theist-agnostic.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

As humans, we cannot know exactly if there is a higher force or not. Christianity however is not it. Firstly because it is not one belief that every Christian shares, it lacks solidarity. I compare it to a road with all different kinds of sideways. Ask a question about religion, and lots of people will find one of those sideways to adjust their religion to their personal beliefs. With Atheïsm, the concept is pretty clear. It is more scientific, and I like that.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

I was raised a Catholic growing up, and I can honestly say that Atheism makes a lot more sense to me. I never really thought about what I actually believed in until I was a junior in high school, and everything started coming together when I finally sat down and asked myself if this belief actually sounds accurate.There are many reasons why I believe Atheism is much more logical-I'll list some of them below.The Bible is supposed to be the word of God himself, right? Allow me to mention some of the things written in it, and I'll explain why they don't make sense.1. The Bible says the Earth is flat, and that God himself is responsible for rain, earthquakes, thunderstorms, hurricanes etc.This is obviously false, and it's impossible to honestly believe this growing up in today's modern world. We know today that the Earth is round. We know about evaporation. We know about plate tectonics. If we were living 3-400 years ago, this probably would've made a lot more sense.. but it doesn't in today's world.Despite that God is supposed to be all-knowing, his knowledge was limited to the knowledge of humans from 3-400 years ago! Or maybe he's lying to us? But then again, why would he lie? He's supposed to be our heavenly father who's all good (but then Agni, he's not that heavenly of a father, considering he created a place called Hell and would make us burn there for all eternity JUST because we didn't believe in him even though a lot of us atheists are very nice people who just don't happen to believe in an imaginary judgmental homophobic racist being in the sky). He must just be ignorant of his own creations.2. The Bible claims that God made the Earth 6-12 thousand years ago.This is false. We know from radio-metric dating, the distance of stars, and the amount of distance light has to travel to reach the Earth, the rate of expansion of the universe, etc, that the Earth is actually BILLIONS of years old, not thousands.3. The bible claims that God made men from the dust, women from the rib of a man, created all the animals in one day. This is false. Animals (including humans) emerged from a very gradual process of genetic mutation, adaptation, mate selection, etc, what we know today as evolution. Now most Christians today don't believe in this, but it IS a scientific fact-and saying that animals gradually emerged from evolutions is a much more logical than saying an invisible man created all the animals in one day. It sounds like a fairy tale-something that sounds obviously stupid.4. The Bible claims that diseases are caused by demonic possessions.We know this is not true after discovering viruses, bacteria, etc. Would you really believe this in today's world? Viruses and bacteria have been proven to exist, where demons have not.The only way to really prove atheism is true is by disproving every single religion out there-but that's not what I'm doing. These are just some reasons why Atheism makes more sense than Christianity, even if Atheism is false because of another god that exists (that isn't the Christian god).
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

I am an atheist because i believe that we all have one life that we should enjoy and preserve for all future generations
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

You should preserve your life for all future generations? How are you going to do that? Are you going to put yourself in a magic jar so people can open it in the future to turn your goodness loose on the planet?
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Many Christians believe in some sort of Christian exceptionalism similar to the feeling of many Americans. Christianity has an equal, if not more bloody history than Islam or any other organized religion. It has been continuously manipulated throughout the last 2000 years to serve a purpose of controlling people. Until the 1500s, the Church limited human progress by telling people what to think and collecting taxes from everyone. Europe's progress was stalled, millions of heretics, women, Jews, and others were killed in the name of Christianity. The crusades alone led to thousands of deaths. It is no coincidence that the center of knowledge and learning at that time period of the world was Baghdad. In the 1500's ideas from the East finally began arriving in Europe and the Church lost its stranglehold on Europe. Christianity then travelled with the settlers in the Americas. The Christian Spanish conquistadors slaughtered millions of Inca and Aztec people in the name of exploration and bringing Christianity. American "Manifest destiny" in the 1800's fueled by Christianity led to the displacement and killing of hundreds of thousands of Native American peoples, not to mention the slave trade and use of Christianity to justify this harsh and unjust system. European colonization of Africa is perhaps the bloodiest of all these events. This span of rule over African countries led to the killing of countless Africans and enslavement of many. In today's world, it is easy to see Islam as the only religion whose fighters are causing death across the world, but what people fail to realize is that Christianity is what is used by governments and institutionally, unlike the separate groups of Islam terrorist fighters. What separates them and George Bush, who said the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were a "crusade", whose bombing campaigns left a conservative estimate of over a million civilians, except for the backing of the most powerful military on earth. Why Atheism? Because God, Christianity, the warped use of the Bible, etc. have been one of the main forces limiting progress for two thousand years and there needs to be a change.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

hahahahhahaha.....funny stuff, too stupid to read all of it but dumb enough to get a lot of laughs out of a few lines.You don't have a clue what you are talking about.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

^^^notmymuse, please dispute these arguments above. (If you can...)^^^
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

I have replied to each one. I can do all things through Christ.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

You replied, but inefficiently.Any way, why to you discriminate your own gender with this suppressing religion?
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Perhaps to you it was inefficient. I do not discriminate my gender.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Perhaps to you it was inefficient.Such an empty come back.I do not discriminate my gender.Oh, didn't you know?Christianity is sort of an anti-female religion.Here's what God and Jesus has to say about women:Matthew 25:1 Jesus says: "At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom."John 20:17 Jesus says to Mary: "Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father," as though the touch of a woman is somehow improper, but a few verses later, is happy to have Thomas touch him.In Genesis chapter 3, God punishes Eve, and all women for thousands of years, with greatly increased pain during childbirth. No such pain is inflicted on Adam.In Ephesians 5:22-24 we find this: "Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything."In 1 Peter 3:7 we find: "Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers."In 1 John 2:13, John says, "I write to you, fathers, because you have known him who is from the beginning. I write to you, young men, because you have overcome the evil one. I write to you, dear children, because you have known the Father." No mention is made of women.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Christ isn't that much of a big deal.And Christ doesn't know real pain. If you compare his fate with some other people, then you'd know he might as well be thrashed with cushions.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

You're right Christ isn't a "deal" - he is your eternity. Christ knows all about pain as he bore the pain on the cross for you and me. He did so that we can have everlasting life.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Jesus doesn't know nothing about pain. There are humans who have suffered pain way more painful than Jesus ever had. Where is their recognition?
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

lol down voted without any reply. Such cowardice.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Examples please? .
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Example? .
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Even if there was a valid proof for the existence of god, there would be no valid proof that that god is Christian or not.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

How can you even write such a stupid question. Thanks for the coffee break laughter.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

How is it a stupid question? Or do you just like ridiculing people?
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

You are repeating yourself. I prefer the word "rebuke" in place of your word "ridicule".
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

I didn't write any question.............................................
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Okay, well that's fine. Have a good day then and nice profile pic.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

At least we have a nice put up in this debate we need more lol.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Yes, it's so many people to respond to and my hands are tired. There isn't enough support but I already expected this. So many are "of the world" these days and it breaks my heart. I used to be there.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

What? God isnt a christian.................................
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Why do you think we can't stand that question?ALso you forgot all the other choices. Hinduism, Buddhism, Islam, Shinto, Judaism one and on
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

I am a Christian. I am not religious. You can't stand the question because deep inside, you believe in God.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

I would love to see the argument here. Where is the argument????
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Even "Christianity" is misleading. There's Lutheranism, Catholicism, Protestantism, and thousands of more denominations and subdenominations.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

there is no god. Science has proven it. It was just an excuse made up so people from simplier times didnt have to think to hard on those big questions.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

What is this scientific proof you're talking about?
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

For 17 years, I was in about 4 different bunch of christian groups. I was bullied profusely because of my autism. For example: 1 girl refused to shake my hand during the peace be with you because I was "awkward".I was Then I joined up 4 non religious groups. And for the past 3 years I can say I have made the most amount of strong friendships in my entire life. What's funny is this: at first I was mad at christianity, after all, religion was a tool used by politicians to create wars, great schisms, mass genocides, needless crusades, iquisitions, slavery, etc. To me Christianity and Islam were the most destructive religions on earth because of how easy it was for kings and politicians to manipulate the believers into killing and murdering and hating. I also hated it because when I was in these religious groups, we would go to church and pray, and make discussions and games to help us show love to God and one another. But during the breaks, I was left out of conversations, picked on, gossiped about, etc. After a year of hating christianity, I finally realized this: It doesn't matter what religious or non-religious belief/ideal that you have, it depends on your individuality.If your a totally dickhead and you believe in a God that punishes the wicked and sends them to hell, then you are a total hypocrite.If so many "church goer's" and "God-loving christians" don't practice what they preach and say they believe in God then according to what I have experienced this is what I have to say about their God:a) God may not exist. But if he does, then he is either too weak to punish the guilty, or HIS version of GOOD does not match our version of good. Meaning: rape, robbery, intolerance, hatred, murder, is all part of God's plan. Because he is either evil, weak, or non-existant.In the end:I chose to believe that God is non existent, because his existence is both an unimportant waste of searching and never finding (like trying to find a needle in a haystack, or maybe it was never put there?), and has caused much grief over the past centuries as all major religions have.I am atheist, and I live my life based on being a productive, loving, caring, and tolerant member of society. And will not bow to such a destructive religion that politicians and kings have in the past and even today (as seen with ISIS leaders and some conservative congressmen) can easily take advantage of. *Note- Islam and Christianity are simply offshoots of Judaism. While Islam was technically older, the Qu'ran, which had the same aura that Christianity's bible had was made 500 years AFTER the Bible. As such, I see Islam as no different that Christianity which is why I made that comparison of ISIS leaders to some conservative congressmen as both are conservative and share very very similar values.)
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

As for the "atheism" existed before Christianity argumentators,You are all correct: The Dinosaurs, cockroaches, and apes that preceded us did not have the brain power to form religions as we do.And it is sad that this is your best argument against atheism, why? because by doing so you all are already claiming that Atheism existed before God, meaning there was no God before God. After all, God had to have believed in himself. And according to christian doctrine, God is eternal and sees and IS the past present and future, meaning there has and always was Christianity! But by claiming Atheism existed before Christianity, all of you are rejecting doctrine that God is eternal, meaning everyone who has agreed to this argument and are Christians:Congratulations! You have just created a new offshoot of Christianity:Here I'll help you name it: Hypocrisy At it's Finest. or H.A.I.F Christianity.-The name of the church is called: God is not eternal as According to us Atheism existed before God therefore the Bible is wrong on some parts.-Mass starts at 7 AM, those who fail to attend will burn in hell.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

No one has ever waged a war in the name of atheism.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Awaiting the "Stalin and Mao were atheist" comments in 3.....2.....1......
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Valid point!
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

A war proclamation does not always reflect the actual intentions.There have been plenty of wars fought under the banner of religion for secular reasons. In fact, most (if not all) wars are fought over "limited resources".
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

My original point was moot anyway. I completely forgot about Stalin and Mao when I posted it and was proven wrong quickly and easily.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Stalin and Mao were fighting/killing under the banner of Nationalism. It had nothing to do with atheism or theism. Blaming everything that is not religious on atheists does not make sense. There are many non-theistic issues that have nothing to do with atheism.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

"Raised in the Georgian Orthodox faith, Stalin became an atheist. His government promoted atheism through special atheistic education in schools, anti-religious propaganda, the anti-religious work of public institutions (Society of the Godless), discriminatory laws, and a terror campaign against religious believers. By the late 1930s, it had become dangerous to be publicly associated with religion.[99]Stalin's role in the fortunes of the Russian Orthodox Church is complex. Continuous persecution in the 1930s resulted in its near-extinction as a public institution: by 1939, active parishes numbered in the low hundreds (down from 54,000 in 1917), many churches had been leveled, and tens of thousands of priests, monks and nuns were persecuted and killed. Over 100,000 were shot during the purges of 1937–1938.[100][101] During World War II, the Church was allowed a revival as a patriotic organization, and thousands of parishes were reactivated until a further round of suppression during Khrushchev's rule. The Russian Orthodox Church Synod's recognition of the Soviet government and of Stalin personally led to a schism with the Russian Orthodox Church Outside Russia.Just days before Stalin's death, certain religious sects were outlawed and persecuted. Many religions popular in ethnic regions of the Soviet Union, including the Roman Catholic Church, Eastern Catholic Churches, Baptists, Islam, Buddhism, and Judaism underwent ordeals similar to that which the Orthodox churches in other parts of the country suffered: thousands of monks were persecuted, and hundreds of churches, synagogues, mosques, temples, sacred monuments, monasteries and other religious buildings were razed. Stalin had a different policy outside the Soviet Union; he supported the Communist Uyghur Muslim separatists under Ehmetjan Qasim in the Ili Rebellion against the anti-Communist Republic of China regime. In addition to this, he supplied weapons to the Uyghur Ili army and Red Army support against Chinese forces, and helped them establish the Second East Turkestan Republic of which Islam was the official state religion." (wikipedia)
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

The intention of removing religion was the same as Hitler's ultimate goal (Goebbels Diaries), for a better country. In the end, it is under a banner of nationalism.Removing something that you believe to be a root of problems for your country is a justified nationalist action. When that something happens to be religion, it does not imply his actions were rooted in anti-theism. He also supported soft inheritance, but that does not mean he was anti-science. He was just ignorant. He obviously wanted to foster the agriculture industry through his collectivization policies, but his stance on genetics was obviously detrimental.PS: He just wasn't smart enough. Same with Mao. They needed someone like Deng Xiao Ping who fostered unbridled economic growth. Religion was fine in China as long as it did not oppose the Communist Party.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

I agree. They're not changing anybody's mind and I can speak for quite a few when I say that they're becoming nothing more than a minor irritant.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

"they're becoming nothing more than a minor irritant."Too true.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Have every right.

Well if they're not changing anybody's mind, why should they stop? Campaigning and standing up for beliefs is all about enduring the critism and marching on until an ultimatum is reached that is in support of the camaigners. Until then, Christians will continute to campaign for what is right.
Debate: Christians should stop campaigning against abortion.
Side: Should STFU

"Until then, Christians will continute to campaign for what is right.""Right" by their definition and that's their greatest problem.