Debate: Evolution is a lie
Side: True

1) The first video I am not disagreeing on. I agree that the majority of people even Christians agree with evolution. But just because a majority agrees on something does not make it right.2) What fossil record? There is no fossil record (which is supposedly in the geologic column) because there is no geological column! What evidence for evolution? The Bible was written by men, inspired by God. There are too many similarities between the books of the Bible from multiple people who had never met or read any other Scripture passages to say that it is not inspired by God. Then, they are too different to be seen as a conspiracy/collaboration to spread lies, unlike evolution. The men who did write the Bible also made many prophecies that have come true and did many miracles. There is much historical evidence for Jesus Christ and Hs miracles. You can trust that Moses existed because Jesus was true. 3 blind men and an elephant is untrue as well because the religions of the world contradict each other too much. Saying that God would not allow differing religions is a logical fallacy because we don't know the will of God. Radiocarbon dating is proven false a number of times so the Dead Sea Scroll argument is refutable. The apocryphal gospels were not what was taught in the early church nor by the apostles. One example of a Bible verse that was compiled to be incorrect and added after the original writings is the end of Mark. Go to this site: http://dgreenruf.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=15:how-can-we-trust-the-bible-as-true&catid=2:article&Itemid=12 and look at "God’s Word Has Been Faithfully Transmitted." We can also get into the so called "immoral" things of the Bible another day. Bible contradictions answered: http://www.bringyou.to/apologetics/bible.htm Creationism is putting religion in science. Intelligent Design is putting science into religion... look at the Discovery Institute.3) Paul met Christ on the road to Damascus and without understanding anything about Christianity instantly knew everything there was to know about the religion (as advocated by the other apostles that were alive at this time) and believed it. It was not one man saying that god met him and that road and that god told him to say things, like spiritualman on this site. There us such a thing as absolute truth but perception gets in the way of things. If I throw a ball out the window, can you honestly tell me that I didn't? Sure you can, but does that mean it didn't happen? However, we do not know the absolute truth of everything because if God was small enough for us to understand Him, He would not be God. Historians say that the books written on Alexander the Great are true even though they were 400 or 500 years after he died because they coincide with one another yet have enough difference to show that it was not a conspiracy. And, again, there is historic proof of Jesus outside of the Bible. But even if there wasn't, why shouldn't we trust the books of the Bible? Historians trust many books that are the only account of certain history. Death is the term for spiritual death not physical death. It was an actual fruit in the Garden of Eden. Jesus said many times in the Gospels "I Am" which is a reference back to Exodus 3:14 displaying Godship. The Isaiah prophecy of Immanuel is Jesus and Immanuel means God. Look to John 1. Jesus was omnipotent and omniscient but used rhetoric strategies while He lived. The early theologians did not believe the earth was flat: http://www.mandm.org.nz/2009/12/contra-mundum-the-flat-earth-myth.html and the dome around the earth is wrong also because the idea came form Genesis saying there was suspended water... this water is what helped flood the earth. He refers to metaphors from the Bible as if they were literal. Just because the Bible uses metaphors does not deny its inerrancy or absolute truth.4) Just because you believe something does not make it true. I agree with that. Some people believe in evolution and some people believe evolution is crap. Someone has to be wrong. However, just as the bible requires in the courts for two people to bring forth charges against you to prove you were wrong or right, so does the Bible. There are numerous people who advocate the things that happen in the Bible, which would say to a logical person that either this happened or it is one big conspiracy. There is no evidence of most of the things in evolution, as the video I showed you shows, so it along with Christianity is a faith. We have a freedom in America to believe whatever we want so why is it that in schools any sort of creationism is grounds for expulsion of being fired? Evidence of God is the same evidence of the Laws of Thermodynamics. A God is required for matter to start its existence. Therefore, atheists must disprove the reliability of these Laws. I do, however, theologically believe that if you have faith in God then you know that Jesus is Lord because you believe it to be true.5) I'm not saying that America is a Christian nation. This has nothing to do with creationism and not much of these videos have anything to do with creationism. "Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." John Adams. The nation is based on Christian morals so that there is freedom and people do not have to be taken care of by the government... which is what is happening today. I don't care about teaching creationism in schools, I just want evolution out. Kent Hovind in the video is not trying to get evolution out but to show that the evidence in the schools is wrong because there is no evidence. Evolution has had no scientific breakthroughs either and is useless along with being considered religious just as Karl Popper says. Look at this site for quotes for the last sentence: http://creation.com/images/pdfs/flyers/15-questions-for-evolutionists-s.pdf questions 13 and 15.6) I understand evolution quite a bit more than people think I do. His argument is a fallacy just as he was complaining earlier. He says that just because you believe it does not make it true. He is now saying that Christians do no understand it, which implies that if you did know it, you would believe it to be true. Cats branch out to different breeds but lose genetic information not gain any. Creationists attack anything that is not in line with science and the Bible. His entire premise is wrong. In my geology class I heard my professor say more than once geologic evolution. His entire idea was that evolution was only biological but this is wrong because there are many branches of science that deal with it. Psychology for instance has an evolutionary psychology sub discipline. Abiogenesis is impossible as seen in video and as stated in the Law of Biogenesis. Radiometric dating has been proven false... here is one citations about it: http://www.earthage.org/EarthOldorYoung/ Radiometric%20Dating,%20and%20The%20Age%20of%20the%20Earth.htm  As seen in the video, the smaller things get, the more complex they are. The 2nd law of thermodynamics http://www.personal.psu.edu/jmc6/second_law.html  proves that life goes from complexity to simplicity not the other way around as evolution suggests. Even if it did, there still is no proof of it happening because there is no geologic column to prove it. Mammal fossils have been found in strata supposedly 430 million years ago and petrified trees have been found through multiple layers of this strata... in fact geologists have a law of relative time to try and explain why this happens. Miller and Urey is wrong as seen in the video; there is no such thing as abiogenesis.7) There is no such thing as free will. God has planned our lives ahead of our understanding. The Bible is either right or wrong. If Adam lived 930 years and was created on the 6th day but God banished them afterwards and put a mark on Cain afterwards then the 7th day at the most is 930 years if it supposed to be a metaphor and not a literal "24 hours." 3:52 I'm pretty sure he just admitted the existence of God. Natural selection is a creationist term, why do evolutionist use it? http://creation.com/images/pdfs/flyers/15-questions-for-evolutionists-s.pdf  question 4 and the video series I posted. Chaos does not produce order, 2nd law of thermodynamics. A number of the things that we thought were only from the past have been discovered in present times. Biblical creationism is a faith just as evolution is.8) Mutations are explained in the video. Micro-evolution is different from macro. There have been a number of examples of where there have been "beneficial" mutations and I'm not denying that. However, people also forget that they have been created in a laboratory and when reintroduced with the parent organisms, the mutant has always died. This citation is from a video from the "Understanding the Times" teachers edition. "Bacteria can be made antibiotic resistant by mutation, but biologist Novick calls such forms 'evolutionary cripples.'" http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/cfl/mutations#n9  as mutations occur, the organism is crippled not allowing for most mutations to be bad. However, as mentioned earlier and in the video, we do not deny variations of like kinds and micro-evolution.I'm going to take a break and watch a movie then if I have time tonight I might do it... but I'll probably finish this up tomorrow after I move in to my apartment.