azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Atheism isn't a religion, its a lack thereof. We are all atheists in a sense. Do you believe in Allah, or Zeus, Thor, Shiva, or any other Gods of various other religions, no? Then you are an atheist towards them, much like how I'm going one step further in saying that i don't believe in the christian god.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

It actually is not ad populum, its chronological snobbery.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Could you ellaborate as I am not disagreeing with you. I would just love to hear more of how you feel on this.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Oh i wasnt replying to you i was replying to Apollo. He said that the fallacy in "Christianity and the test of time" was ad populum, but it is really chronological snobbery.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Thank you for clearing that up. I do appreciate that. : )
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

To my knowledge, that was the fallacy that because idea x predates idea y, idea x must be inferior to idea y. It is ad populum because he/she claimed that because many people have believed in it (for a long period of time), it is true.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Example of ad populum: five million people believe idea x, thus x is trueExample of chronological snobbery: idea x has been around for five thousand years, while idea y was just recently invented. Therefore x is true and y is false. (assuming that both y and x cannot be true at the same time)The former assumes something is true or false based on how many people think it is true or false, while the latter assumes something is true or false based on how old or new it is. Ad populum usually does accompany chronological snobbery, but they are still two distinct fallacies.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Thank you very much for your clarification on this. It is appreciated.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

The fallacy is false because you are incoherant as to where idea y actually was predated before idea x. Just think about it. The ad populum has no proof of what anyone believed.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Apollo....your statement is contradictory. How can you have a rejection of religion or God, if neither exists yet? That's like saying that sailboats predate water.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

That's not what atheism is. Atheism is disbelief in the existence of god (or gods). How can one believe something that doesn't exist? It is like saying that not being a soccer fan predates the invention of soccer. How can one be a fan of a sport that doesn't exist? We are all born atheists...
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

As for the "atheism" existed before Christianity argumentators,You are all correct: The Dinosaurs, cockroaches, and apes that preceded us did not have the brain power to form religions as we do.And it is sad that this is your best argument against atheism, why? because by doing so you all are already claiming that Atheism existed before God, meaning there was a time that God did not exist. After all, according to some old person: "I think therefore I am" meaning God HAD to have believed in himself and what he was doing in order to have existed, because according to christian doctrine, "God is eternal and sees and IS the past present and future, meaning there has and always was Christianity!"But by claiming Atheism existed before Christianity, all of you are rejecting doctrine that God is eternal (Or you are claiming that God really has no idea what the fuck he his doing and just creates random shit just to see what it does), meaning that to everyone who has agreed to this argument and are Christians:Congratulations! You have just created a new offshoot of Christianity:Here I'll help you name it: Hypocrisy At it's Finest. or H.A.I.F Christianity.-The name of the church is called: God is not eternal as According to us Atheism existed before God therefore SOME of the christian doctrine, including half the Bible is wrong on some and or many parts.-Mass starts at 7 AM, those who fail to attend will burn in hell.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

I found more peace in my belief and will continue to seek the Lord until the day I die.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Amen, as I will too. Jesus Christ is the only way to have that peace. I would be nothing without Him. He is my all.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Children are happy believing in fairy tales, that doesn't make them true. Wanting something to be true because you're afraid of the truth won't make it so.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Feeling that you've "found peace" in some disgustingly fallacious religion != it being true.Sure, you might continue to believe in the bad set of beliefs, but you are irrational for doing so.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

So, good feelings are equivalent to well-reasoned arguments or evidence?
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

With you answer personally I would say both.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Well, as an active Pastafarian, I am disappointed at the lack of recognition of our religion. Along with Islam, Judaism, Mormonism, Roman mythology, Greek mythology, Norse mythology, Hinduism, Sikhism, Jainism, Egyptian mythology, and Buddhism. But seeing as I am a theist, I must be on this side. Don't you wish there was a sarcasm feature on the internet?
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

There is no prejudice in you choosing to be religious. I am a Christian and I am not religious, but quite spiritual. The religions you speak of have nothing to do with a spiritual belief thus you and your religion are excluded from being part of Christianity.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

I'm offended that you left out the other religions. My relationship with the Flying Spaghetti Monster is as strong as yours with God. I have been touched by his noodly appendage, and I ask you to join me.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

So you all have no argument so you resort to what? Oh yes, down voting me. LOL
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

This is the most idiotic debate i have ever seen. HOW you tell me please hoe did we get so perfect were the earth and sun and moon is in the right spot and are bodys function perfectly are hands made distinctively. Cause we were made after his own image.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

The Universe is a big place, no, REALLY big. That means that chemicals can mix in all sorts of ways in many different places. In most of those places nothing comes of it, millions upon millions of dead star systems. In a few (at least one) the conditions for life are just right, with a sun of the right temperature, a planet at the right distance and made of the right mix of chemicals.This planet and star are perfect for us because this was the one that had the right conditions for us to exist. It's silly to argue that god must exist because of how perfect this is, it's perfect because if it wasn't we wouldn't be here, you don't need a god in the picture to explain that.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

HOW you tell me please hoe did we get so perfect were the earth and sun and moon is in the right spot and are bodys function perfectly are hands made distinctively. Cause we were made after his own image.Aah, the teleological argument. It has been so mercilessly obliterated in so many different ways, I must share all of them.1. The Ultimate 747 Gambit. Proposed by Richard Dawkins, it states that a designer complex enough to create complex life would need that complexity from an infinitely more complex designer. This leads to infinite regress.2. The universe is wasteful. We can estimate that there 3x10^21 planets in the universe. Yet we only know one that has life. What sort of intelligent designer would be so wasteful with his design?3. Careless designer. Much is made of the "fine tuning" of the universe. If we change just one number, life would be impossible. This is supposed to be evidence for God. But I say the opposite is true. Why would an omniscient God, who has the knowledge to create a perfect universe, and an omnipotent God, who has the power to create a perfect universe, create one on such a precarious knife edge? Moreover, if we are referring to Christianity, their God would be omnibenevolent, and have the desire to create a perfect universe.4. Complexity does not imply design. Being ignorant of something does not make it designed.5. Occam's Razor. We have a fairly decent understanding of how everything works. Implementing God violates Occam's Razor.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

No, the multiverse is not nearly as simple as God, Occams razor does the exact opposite. Check out GodandScience.org.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

I didn't mention the multiverse, we already have M-theory and QLG to explain the universe. So God does violate Occam's Razor in comparison to those two models.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

The site also addresses M-theory, however QLG doesn't appear to be on there.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

I tried searching the site, but I can't find any links to M theory. I can work without QLG, I dislike it anyway.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Guess what, when I'm on my death bed taking my last breath, I'll be the most content person on this Earth. That's because I'll have no doubt in the back of my mind that I should not have to worry because I take the time in my life to practice my religion. I will have an inner joy and ecstasy with the thought of going to a perfect place. And what does it hurt to think like that? I sure wouldn't want to be the Atheist who decides in their final moments that maybe there actually is a God and then have to plead for forgiveness. No sir, I'm going to set myself up for a joyful passing. If you don't want to ensure that in yourself, be my guest. But you better be pretty darn sure of it.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Definitely Christianity :) and i am blessed to go to a christian school where i get to learn more about our amazing god :)
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

You rather die believing in god,than not believing and finding out he exists!
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Atheists rely on proof even though they have none... So if my religion has no proof so that gives your religion proof atheists? Makes no sense. Where atheists have nothing to back themselves up with, when Christians do. And the thing they have to back themselves up with is the Bible, what do the atheists have? Evolution? Everyone knows evolution is a load of crap.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Atheists rely on proof even though they have noneWhat do they need proof for?So if my religion has no proof so that gives your religion proof atheists?Saying atheism is a religion is like saying not playing soccer is a sport.Makes no sense.I agree, your logic makes no sense.Where atheists have nothing to back themselves up withWhat are atheists backing up? God's nonexistence? Atheist aren't claiming god's non-existence (thanks ThePyg), they look at the evidence given for a belief (or lack thereof) and and form a belief accordingly. Christians have no evidence their god exists, so atheists realize it is illogical to believe in something that has no evidence backing it. It asserts nothing so it needs defend nothing.when Christians do.HA! Like what?the thing they have to back themselves up with is the BibleAhh. The bullshit bible?The bible contradicts itself THOUSANDS of times. It is, therefore, not fact. It is full of historical inaccuracies, scientific impossibilities, self-refuatitions, etc. All of this means the bible is not in any sense of the word, fact. If I write down in a book that I am both 32 and 600 years old and claim that they are both facts, I would be labeled INSANE. If that book is the bible, however, I will be called a Christian.Everyone knows evolution is a load of crap.HHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!This is too good. Disprove evolution. 100% of gathered evidence supports evolution. 99.99% of the scientific community accepts it as fact. Creationism is bullshit.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Why do you ask Christians for proof all the time? You are using such a cliche' response when stating about atheism in reference to a sport. If black is a color then atheism is a religion. It is logically impossible to have no beliefs. Get with the program.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Why do you ask Christians for proof all the time?You have got to be kidding me...Why should I believe anything if I have no reason to believe it? I have more of a reason to be a pastafarian than a Christian...You are using such a cliche' response when stating about atheism in reference to a sport.I actually thought if it myself, but regardless, it is true. If black is a color then atheism is a religion.No. That is like saying clear is a color.It is logically impossible to have no beliefs.Atheists don't believe in god. Religion does. There is no overlap. A three-year-old can understand this...but apparently not Christians.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Just a question, if atheism believes in nothing, why is there a church for atheists?
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Apparently, it exists to fit a loop hole within the law. Although, it could be for the same reason there is a church of Spaghetti. http://www.venganza.org/
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

It is logically impossible to have no beliefs.I'm surprised you even know what "logic" means or what being "logical" entails given the poor quality of your arguments.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

The burden of proof is ALWAYS on the one with the positive assertion, that's why.The lack of belief is not a belief.Saying it's logically impossible to not have any beliefs requires you to now define what you mean by "beliefs".I, myself, go by knowledge and ideas. I don't have beliefs. Then again, we could be defining the word "belief" differently.In any case, atheists do NOT believe in any god, and most will tell you they also don't posit any religion. That's what you can really know, so no, atheism is NOT a religion.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

No, if a mirror has a colour then atheism is a religion. Black is a colour, just as much as red or blue.And proof is needed where a claim is made. Atheisms make no claim, therefore no proof is needed. Why do you ask for proof all the time, yet provide none?Also, in the future, I have two suggestions. Try to be less condescending. And quote the arguments you're disputing, and address each sentence, or whatever, individually. Both of those should help you be a better debater :)
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

100% of evidence supports micro evolution, there is a difference between that and life coming from some sort of "primordial soup", something that atheistic scientists are scrambling to prove because quite frankly all their ideas about how such a mechanism would work fall horribly short.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

1. If you are somehow using science's lack on an explanation as evidence for god, that is the God of Gaps fallacy.2. You are right. There is no scientific explanation.But we know many things. a. the molecules needed to form basic membranes existed.b. the molecules needed to form RNA nucleotides existed. Not only do we know that, science has shown that RNA nucleotides (the building blocks necessary for life) can be formed in early earth conditions.With a membrane and functioning RNA, you have a primitive form or Archaea. all their ideas about how such a mechanism would work fall horribly short.Actually, some have been proven to be very possible. http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/14/science/14rna.html?pagewanted=all
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

I am aware that conditions existed to create RNA etc. Go to my link....
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Address my arguments. And what link?----------------------------
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Heres the link , check it out get back to me.......
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

The link also provided counter evidence to the emerging theory.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Sorry in this post I was talking about your link.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

"99.99% of the scientific community accepts it as fact. Creationism is bullshit."This coming from someone who believes all of humanity formed from a primordial soup that just happened to be laying in the right spot at the right time. You do realize how stupid that sounds, right? Your credibility just gets better and better. :O
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Wouldn't you agree that we were created by God and evolved? Like, you can say, I think it is possible for us to have evolved because we stopped evolving at the right moment, this can be criticized but you can still say that because it does not contradict science but rather, it merges perfectly. Creationism and Evolution are compatible.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

I'm not sure if I believe in any evolution at all, but I can say with absolute certainty I don't believe in total evolution. I believe humans and animals can learn to adapt to their environments, but that's about it. As for the idea that we share a common ancestor with monkeys, that's ludicrous, and not just because I'm a Christian. The whole theory of evolution makes no sense. If evolution is real, why are there still monkeys? For that matter, what are other animals? Are they "humans" that haven't evolved yet?
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

actually, we did not come from monkeys, we evolved from one origin and the monkeys evolved from the same origin. It's kind of like father's son= man father's brother's son=monkey. At least that is what I learnt.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

To say that humans and monkeys both came from God is what I believe too, if that's what you're saying. But to believe that two separate species originated from one primordial soup is too far-fetched for me.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

I am saying that there are many points where branches of creatures expand into other branches. The monkeys and the men expanded from the same point.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Note: ask someone if this is true cuz i'm not sure........,................,,,,,,,,,,,,,
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Hey hey no need to call creationism bullshit. Evolution being true, does not mean creationism is incorrect, in fact, Islamic creationism is compatible with some aspects of evolution, (I know this side is Christian but I am still taking it) The Quar'an says: 6 ayums, here, ayum is a stage in the creation of the Universe not necessarily 24 hours. Islam has its own school of evolutionary creation. More amazingly there were Muslim scientists way before Darwin who had concepts of evolution. In the 13th century, Nasir al-Din al-Tusi explains how the elements evolved into minerals, then plants, then animals, and then humans. Tusi then goes on to explain how hereditary variability was an important factor for biological evolution of living things:[1"The organisms that can gain the new features faster are more variable. As a result, they gain advantages over other creatures. [...] The bodies are changing as a result of the internal and external interactions." See, maybe Adam and evolution both existed.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Everyone knows evolution is a load of crap.Everyone knows evolution is a proven and widely popular theory.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Yes, they claim they have proof and I don't even see the common sense in arguing with a book - the Holy Bible who stands the test of time. You are exactly right, how they defend theirselves really turns them into hypocrites. They have no basis to stand on.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

God helps those who help themselves! So i will go and healp myself to school laptops then god will help me?
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

This is just wrong we should not insult who we believe in we do not need to know what you people think
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Well , if I'm not wrong , Atheism is that they don't believe in God . Prove me if I'm wrong . But in my view , no one can pretty much prove that God exist UNLESS you experience His love . And yes , i have experience His love for me . And not just me , for EVERYONE . Once ? No . Twice ? No . Thrice ? No . Well how about 4 times ? No . More than those . I have experienced God's love AND mercy . And His presence too . Probably this is just ONE of the reason why i still love God . I have felt Him that I have no reason not to love Him anymore . And I am not saying that I'm perfect . In fact , i still sin . But i repent . Not easy but with God nothing is impossible ( Luke 1:37 ) . And only by our Heavenly Father that we will go to His kingdom . John 3:16 " For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life " . God bless guys :D !
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

I was raised in a Freewill Baptist Church and was lucky to encounter a church full of people who were actually kind and practiced what they preached. Now, I consider myself a non-denominational who still wholly believes in the beliefs and teachings of the Christians, only now I see it like this: I believe in God, not religion.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

i am christian so i have to back up my religon and i also get to go to church.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

If God doesn't exist, how come there are loads of predictions, sent by God, written thousands of years before Jesus saying exactly what happened to Jesus?
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Atheism is based on science, but faith is based on the soul. An atheist is always looking for the absence of God, but religious person just believes. Atheism should be constantly fed, but faith shouldn't be. Although I'm religious person, I think atheist can stand to hear besause everyone is indepent and everyone has to have his own opinion.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Christianity, because I always root for the underdog. The membership of the atheist here is way bigger. Just look at the congregations of both.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Christianity strives to promote better morals and ethics. What does atheism contribute? Nothing. To believe that one should follow the ways of Christ, what harm is there. Real or not, Christ is still a better example to follow than any atheist. For a ideology to be better than any human must really piss off those that fall way short of it.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

I am glad to see theists embracing that the only logical position to be a theist is from a moral perspective, as you're eventually giving up your position that theism is truth. But does Christianity really strive to promote better morals and ethics, or its own morals and ethics? It supports domestic abuse, racism, torture, homicide, and a vast number of other such horrors.And your entire moral argument is a straw man. Atheism promotes no moral code because it promotes nothing. That is not to say that atheists have no moral code, simply that it does not come from a crazy belief (that at least 5.5 billion people have wrong - 7 billion total, largest religious group is 1.5 billion).