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Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

You're coming off as hostile, but I guess that's to be expected. Considering your kind specialize in creating a following by force or by naivetyYou can say I am, but I am only following what someone said 2,000 years ago. Just standing up for what is right in God's eyes. We don't force people to believe. It's God who does the converting not us. We just tell the message and if the person's heart is ready to receive Christ then they receive Christ. If someone doesn't want to believe in God then we leave them be until God works in them to convert. So I already expected you to spout more drivel, or just ignore me all together like you've continually done since I've seen your first argument.It's not my fault that you and others always dispute me. When you know what I will respond. So why even try when my view isn't going to change at all?
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Let me stop you here, you said:"I am only following what someone said 2,000 years ago."This is where your argument is already flawed. What has happened 2000 years ago, is of little or no relevance to what is happening now. Now in the real world that you can see with your own eyes, if you stop being lazy, gay people exist. They live next door to you, they deliver your male, they go to your kids' schools, they go to your school, work in your office, walk their dogs just like you. To deny that is literally wrong. not in the moral sense, but in the physical sense. So if, no, since gay people are every where what would you seek to accomplish by opposing them in a kid's show, or believing a 2000 year old book over what you can see?My second point that you addressed, wasn't a statement of woe that i can't change your opinion, it was a statement of acceptance, since as i said, i already know you'll hold on to your old as time principles rather than think for yourself. However, the reason that i will always dispute if you place your opinion is because in placing it, you are accepting the fact that it will be met with criticism, especially if it's as biased as the Christian opinion often is.I'd also like to say, you're setting a really great Christian example, simply ignoring anyone who shows you how you're wrong, or attempting to silence them with downvoting. So yea, keep up doing God's work ;D
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

This is where your argument is already flawed. What has happened 2000 years ago, is of little or no relevance to what is happening now. Now in the real world that you can see with your own eyes, if you stop being lazy, gay people exist. They live next door to you, they deliver your male, they go to your kids' schools, they go to your school, work in your office, walk their dogs just like you. To deny that is literally wrong. not in the moral sense, but in the physical sense. So if, no, since gay people are every where what would you seek to accomplish by opposing them in a kid's show, or believing a 2000 year old book over what you can see?It still is relevant to today, because there was homosexual people back then living in Jesus's time and even after. Why do you think Paul wrote to the Corinthians about who will not inherit the Kingdom of God? One of the reasons was being a homosexual. Also the same thing in Romans 1. Also you forget that in the time of Noah it was like how it is right now in this world where people were being really wicked and sinful. I'd also like to say, you're setting a really great Christian example, simply ignoring anyone who shows you how you're wrong, or attempting to silence them with downvoting. So yea, keep up doing God's work ;DI am not wrong. I am standing up for what God said what's right and that is homosexuality is a sin. Ignoring your points has nothing to do with being a Christian or not. And I hate it when non-believers like you say this when it has nothing to do with anything written in the Bible about that. It gets very annoying and tiring making crap up to believe that I should believe you when in all reality, God see's your wrong.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

In response to your first argument I'd ask why God doesn't just pick a righteous person to round up all the animals, and do what he did in the time of Noah, but as most Christians have proven, they have an answer for everything, as illogical as some may be. Instead I'll just skip straight to the point and say, this is an opinion of your religious belief, not a fact that we can observe in this world today.In regards to your second paragraph you missed my sarcasm, so I'll stop doing that. You are perfectly fitting the stereotype of bigoted Christian when you refuse to hear other's points under the premise "God knows all".
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

Progay theist checking in. .
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

My apologies it was supposed to be that your kind tend to specialize in. I type quickly and as a result I often leave out small words such as articles or personal pronouns, etc.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Fair enough. im quite tired of religocrisy myself. I doubt God wants lreigion and spirituality to be used as weapons.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

I don't need to see the clip. It isn't worth my time to be honest. And you aren't worth my time as well.Then how can you speak of it? If I want to protest something, I have to see and understand it first.Also, it it's not worth your time, why are you talking about it?
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

I am talking about it because I want to. How many times did you say you were going to leave and you ended up coming back?
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

I am talking about it because I want to.Alright then, that's your right. Just don't expect to be taken seriously if you haven't seen what you're talking about :PHow many times did you say you were going to leave and you ended up coming back?Twice. And you guys fell for it twice XD
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

How many times did you say you were going to leave and you ended up coming back? Classic tu quoque. Stick to the issues.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Disney Channel shouldn't have straight couples in it. Most of the audience is children and they shouldn't be exposed to this. This just disgusts and sickens me on what people are allowing theses days to support what is wrong.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

nice copy paste :D
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

I did a double post. The computer was acting weird I think.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

What's exactly wrong about it ?
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

It's show that Disney Channel is supporting gay marriage. When in reality it's wrong.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

what is wrong with gay marriage? Is there a huge violent gay person that is forcing You at gun point to marry him ?
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

What's wrong with gay marriage is that it isn't proper. We are created to be with the opposite gender and not the same.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Have you ever thought about that ...that maybe there are people on this planet that does not share you delusion ?
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

As much as anyone may disagree you are entitled to your own opinion, and I don't know why everyone was so shocked to hear this kind of response
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

Yeah, I know. That's probably why some people down-voted me because of what I said.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

I mean not supporting homosexuality isn't a new idea people...
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

Just to let you in on it. I explained down below. It isn't about him being against homosexuality, which we are all used to, it is that he used the words disgusts and sickens which is a ridiculous position to have about this.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

I mean I understand, but even if he said it politely I think people would have reacted just as severely.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

No, he doesn't get down voted like that on a regular basis. His homophobic rants are usually left unharmed.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

I don't really care about the votes, just the comments I was reading.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Goddamn Srom! They're people and they exists whether you like it or not. Stop being such a little homophobe. Geesh!
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

Yes Hellno I know that there is going to be gay people that exist. Hellno, my position isn't going to change at all.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

You're just so hateful about it... it's kinda sad. What will you do if your son turns out to be a little puff one day? Huh? Will you disown him?
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

I am only hateful towards the sin not the sinner. If my son turns out to be gay then I will tell him that it's still wrong and that he should repent.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

If my son turns out to be gay then I will tell him that it's still wrong and that he should repent.What if he can't? Many people are gay in very religious households, and they really try to stop being gay. But they can't.They can abstain from homosexual behavior, but they can't stop being gay.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

I tried to pray away the bi and it did not work. I love Srom like a bro, but I feel sad.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

They can abstain from homosexual behavior, but they can't stop being gay.This is bullshit which is generated by dickheads from mass media and has nothing to do worth science.Give me a link to any scientific article which claims to have proved that gayness is "inborn" and "immutable", and I'll show you the paragraphs in it which say "these results may mean", "this can be interpreted as", e.t.c.Nothing has been proved, although they've been boasting about this for more than a decade.The truth is, most of the statistical "research" has either been proved false, or the results were not repeated by other scientists who did the same surveys.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

Did you choose to be straight? Could you force yourself to have sex with another man? If you had sex with another man, do you think you would still be attracted to women?
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

Did you choose to be straight?This is really a ridiculous pseudo-scientific argument.Let's imagine bestiality has been legalized (it's not so impossible) and people who are not attracted to animals are labeled in some way, like "humanosexuals", as opposed to bestialists. Just like "straights" are opposed to "gays".So, next I ask you: "Did you choose to be a humanosexual?"Of course not. And this means that bestialists are "born this way". End of proof.Now, using this demagogy, it's possible to prove that every paraphilia, and almost every addiction, is "inborn".In mathematics, when a method of proof allows us to prove a statement which is known to be incorrect, than this in its turn proves that the method is incorrect.Could you force yourself to have sex with another man?I couldn't force myself to have sex with a dog. Does this mean that bestiality is inborn?If you had sex with another man, do you think you would still be attracted to women?I don't know and I have no wish to find out.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Now, using this demagogy, it's possible to prove that every paraphilia, and almost every addiction, is "inborn".It probably is.In mathematics, when a method of proof allows us to prove a statement which is known to be incorrect, than this in its turn proves that the method is incorrect.The statement being proven isn't known to be incorrect.You have absolutely no reason to have sex with a guy, why would any other guy want to do it?
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

It probably is.Yes, and the full version of this is: Using your demagogic "did you choose to be" argument, it's probably possible to prove that that every paraphilia, and almost every addiction, is inborn. So, your argument is null and void.The statement being proved isn't known to be incorrect.I just proved the statement that "bestiality is inborn", which is known to be incorrect, using your line of reasoning. Which proves that your line of reasoning is fallacious.You have absolutely no reason to have sex with a guy, why would any other guy want to do it?Human psychology sometimes plays evil tricks, and a guy might try this. The reasons are very complicated, but mainly have to do with the subconscious desire to stop playing the gender role, especially in a society where a man has to constantly "prove that he is a man". This is a childish way of skipping such social games. But it's a road to nowhere since the person starts destroying his health.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Yes, and the full version of this is: Using your demagogic "did you choose to be" argument, it's probably possible to prove that that every paraphilia, and almost every addiction, is inborn. So, your argument is null and void.I say your argument is null and void, so boom it is. This is such a better way to handle arguments.I just proved the statement that "bestiality is inborn", which is known to be incorrect, using your line of reasoning. Which proves that your line of reasoning is fallacious.I have not seen any proof that bestiality is not inborn.Human psychology sometimes plays evil tricks, and a guy might try this. The reasons are very complicated, but mainly have to do with the subconscious desire to stop playing the gender role, especially in a society where a man has to constantly "prove that he is a man". This is a childish way of skipping such social games. But it's a road to nowhere since the person starts destroying his health.Ah, you think it is tough being straight and every guy should be forced to deal with the same torment you go through. I got you now.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

I say your argument is null and void, so boom it is. This is such a better way to handle arguments.Pretending to be dumb does not give you credit. Anyone who reads my previous posts, will see that I proved your argument to be fallacious, not skipping any details. Shall we make a debate on whether this is true? I have no wish to repeat everything I've said, posting in this debate, so you can pretend not to see 90% of it, again.I have not seen any proof that bestiality is not inborn.So these people cannot help being the way they are? Why is there no bestial marriage recognition then? The argument about consent is ridiculous when talking about animals, since many animals are sexually obsessed and try to harass humans - it's the humans who may or may not consent in these situations.And you completely missed the most important point: using the "did you choose to be" argument, it's possible to prove that every addiction is inborn - which is obviously not true.Ah, you think it is tough being straight and every guy should be forced to deal with the same torment you go through. I got you now.If I can build a model of gay psychology, that doesn't mean that I have these problems or am under "torment". I am just looking for alternative explanations to why people become gay, rather that adopt the primitive "born this way" theory.What's tormenting me is that USA is degrading, and has stopped being a moral authority for my country, whereas without the latest freaky PC agendas, it would be an almost perfect example to follow. That's why I try my best to resist your LGBT nonsense.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

Pretending to be dumb does not give you credit. Anyone who reads my previous posts, will see that I proved your argument to be fallacious, not skipping any details. Shall we make a debate on whether this is true? I have no wish to repeat everything I've said, posting in this debate, so you can pretend not to see 90% of it, again.Which fallacy?So these people cannot help being the way they are? Why is there no bestial marriage recognition then? The argument about consent is ridiculous when talking about animals, since many animals are sexually obsessed and try to harass humans - it's the humans who may or may not consent in these situations.And you completely missed the most important point: using the "did you choose to be" argument, it's possible to prove that every addiction is inborn - which is obviously not true.That is not obviously not true. Why are people considered to have addictive personalities?If I can build a model of gay psychology, that doesn't mean that I have these problems or am under "torment". I am just looking for alternative explanations to why people become gay, rather that adopt the primitive "born this way" theory.And your advice for the people who are having a mental breakdown and are unwilling to stick with the traditional role they have to lead is to tell them to shut the hell up. You are so nice.What's tormenting me is that USA is degrading, and has stopped being a moral authority for my country, whereas without the latest freaky PC agendas, it would be an almost perfect example to follow. That's why I try my best to resist your LGBT nonsense.Now you are quoting me, but it isn't the stuff I said. Maybe we should go back to the times when the moral authority of America said blacks and whites shouldn't marry.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: The kids are too young

Which fallacy?OK, you're right - the truth is, you actually did not provide any argument, you just asked a question "Did you choose to be straight". What usually follows is "So, being gay is inborn". I was answering this implied argument, I mean the two sentences put together, when you actually wrote only the first one.So, maybe we should go back all the way, and you should state your argument?I didn't choose to be straight - so what?That is not obviously not true. Why are people considered to have addictive personalities?I don't know. Where did you get that from? What I was saying, is that using the "Did you choose to be" argument, one can "prove" that anything is inborn.If you are implying that "gayness" is a personality, well that's a myth and has nothing to it...I mean that here "personality" is used only as a clever word, but no actual content is provided, the mainstream LGBT ideology does not provide a psychological model.And that's beyond the point...even if it's a "personality", my line of reasoning is still true...addictions are not personalities but DYCTB (did you choose to be) argument "proves" they are inborn.And your advice for the people who are having a mental breakdown and are unwilling to stick with the traditional role they have to lead is to tell them to shut the hell up.No, my advice to them is to be strong, fight their own demons, and fight the society which is pushing them in that direction. Be anarchists if needed, but do not give up.Now you are quoting me, but it isn't the stuff I said. Maybe we should go back to the times when the moral authority of America said blacks and whites shouldn't marry.That was my mistake. Those were of course my words, I wrote them in bold for emphasis, which I shouldn't have done.No, we should not go back to the times when America was oppressing blacks, or when Cromwell was butchering the peasants. Driving my statement to the absurd, does not prove anything.In fact, before the revolution, Russia had held a higher moral ground than America, in some aspects of life.However I beleive that America after Roosevelt and until the 90-s can and should be an example for post-soviet Russia.
Debate: First gay couple on disney channel
Side: It's about time

OK, you're right - the truth is, you actually did not provide any argument, you just asked a question "Did you choose to be straight". What usually follows is "So, being gay is inborn". I was answering this implied argument, I mean the two sentences put together, when you actually wrote only the first one.So, maybe we should go back all the way, and you should state your argument?I didn't choose to be straight - so what?You were wrong about the fallacy, why can't you be wrong about gays?I don't know. Where did you get that from? What I was saying, is that using the "Did you choose to be" argument, one can "prove" that anything is inborn.Which is not inherently a problem.If you are implying that "gayness" is a personality, well that's a myth and has nothing to it...I mean that here "personality" is used only as a clever word, but no actual content is provided, the mainstream LGBT ideology does not provide a psychological model.It is fun to just call stuff myths for no reasons, yay!And that's beyond the point...even if it's a "personality", my line of reasoning is still true...addictions are not personalities but DYCTB (did you choose to be) argument "proves" they are inborn.And, your point is what? Maybe they are inborn.No, my advice to them is to be strong, fight their own demons, and fight the society which is pushing them in that direction. Be anarchists if needed, but do not give up.But, their instincts tell them to have gay sex, they aren't being told to have gay sex. Your advice is to not talk about it at all and be like everybody else.In fact, before the revolution, Russia had held a higher moral ground than America, in some aspects of life.Yeah, because you killed all of the people you deemed immoral.So, your main argument is that gay marriage should be banned in order to stay ahead of Russia. That's worse than DYCTB idea.