azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

So marrying someone purely because you love them I assume in your eyes is a sin and I guess the clergyman that conducted the service committed a sin as well
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

I love my sister, and I love my cats. This does not mean that I should marry them. Marriage is a specific covenant and bond between a man and a woman that God has instituted to reflect His relationship of Christ and the church. Gay marriage and divorce are both blasphemy and a defilement of this sacred covenant, and thus a sin.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

But forgivable sins, are they not?
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

Of course they are forgivable sins. This does not make sin right, though, in any sense.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

You are taught to love, not to hate. An unhappy marriage will not increase love, but likely increase hate. Not allowing gay marriage will not increase love, but increase hate. A world in which everyone is happy and respectful of each others needs can not lead to trouble. But a world in which you condemn these types of actions, because they do not suit your beliefs, will only lead to more trouble and more hate. I think that Matthew 7:3-5 applies to you: “Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother’s eye and pay no attention to the plank in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye."
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

Not allowing gay marriage will not increase love, but increase hate.God hates sin and He calls Christians to hate sin as well. We love people, sure, most assuredly, but this does not mean that we should allow sin.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

How can you not see which parts of the Bible were corrupt additions? One of the reasons we have so much trouble in the world is because messages like that have diluted the true loving messages. Being sinful is giving into egotism and materialism. God would hate the opposite of spirituality, wouldn't he? To hate something is to want it to go away, and our sinful outlooks certainly do need to go away, and we need to realize the big picture. Someone who is gay cannot stop being gay, and an unhappy marriage tends to remain unhappy. God did not introduce the concept of marriage, man did.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

All throughout the Bible it is said that God hates evil. One huge part of the Bible is God telling us that we are evil, saying that He hates this, but also that He will restore our souls to spiritual health, making us only bear good fruit.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

God hates evil just as our own souls hate evil. Sins are a result of our human forms. When we die, we are without sin. Our goal on earth, I believe, is love and unity. The traditional Christian mindset is not a good pathway to that.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

God giving us a new heart is the only way for us to stop sinning.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

The Kingdom of God is within you, just as the Bible says. You are not given that which you must seek, especially something that you already have. It is hidden, and you must find it. Corrupt teachings will not lead you there.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

The Kingdom of God is within you, just as the Bible says.Where does the Bible say that?You are not given that which you must seek, especially something that you already have.You should read Romans 3 and then Romans 10.It is hidden, and you must find it. Corrupt teachings will not lead you there.God is the only one who can lead you there.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

Where does the Bible say that?Luke 17:21 "nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”You should read Romans 3 and then Romans 10.How about you quote the verses you want me to read?God is the only one who can lead you there.In the same sense that the deep down inner Self IS God.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

Luke 17:21 "nor will they say, ‘See here!’ or ‘See there!’ For indeed, the kingdom of God is within you.”The best way to translate the word in that sentence from Greek to English is among or in the midst of. Look at the context after this verse. He was saying that the kingdom of heaven was bound up in Christ, himself.How about you quote the verses you want me to read?Romans 3:11 - "no one seeks for God."Romans 10:20 - "Then Isaiah is so bold as to say,'I have been found by those who did not seek me; I have shown myself to those who did not ask for me.'"In the same sense that the deep down inner Self IS God.God inhabits the inner self of a Christian. Non-Christians are spiritually dead; they must be raised to life by God, in God making home there.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

It was Jesus who said that the Kingdom of God is within us... So, how am I out of context? Plus, he wasn't referring to the Kingdom of Heaven.Many people argue it to be the same thing.So, explain to me how that states that people should not seek?People should seek. But they cannot seek. Those who seek have already found God, God having shown Himself to them.Someone as smart as yourself should be able to separate the truths from the falsehoods that are in the Bible.There are not falsehoods in the Bible.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

Many people argue it to be the same thing.And many people could be wrong. They probably are the same thing, though. Jesus' parables would be evidence of this."Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect." - Mark Twain People should seek. But they cannot seek. Those who seek have already found God, God having shown Himself to them.Does that not make sense if God is within you? It is our egocentric selves that hides God, but if you try and remove the veil, in other words, seek, you come closer to finding God and the true reality. You must realize that it is you who has hidden God.There are not falsehoods in the Bible.And how would you know that? You were not there when it was written. It does not take a genius to see that OT and NT connect because Jesus was working with a Jewish crowd. He had a message that needed to be given in terms that the people could understand. Does this mean that all of OT is wrong? No. There are truths in it too, but much of the Bible is riddled with the fingerprints of corrupt men."Faith is a state of openness or trust. To have faith is like when you trust yourself to the water. You don't grab hold of the water when you swim, because if you do you will become stiff and tight in the water, and sink. You have to relax, and the attitude of faith is the very opposite of clinging, and holding on. In other words, a person who is fanatic in matters of religion, and clings to certain ideas about the nature of God and the universe becomes a person who has no faith at all. Instead they are holding tight. But the attitude of faith is to let go, and become open to truth, whatever it might turn out to be." - Alan Watts
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

You forget the United States is not a Christian theocracy,we do not make laws based on religion or bigotry because we are a free country! Marriage is about commitment it has nothing to do with Jesus it is man made, it is a secular institution. Marriage has existed BCE so that mean God has nothing to do with marriage. You must also be one of the people who think sex is about procreation aren't you?
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

You forget the United States is not a Christian theocracy,we do not make laws based on religion or bigotry because we are a free country!Do I care if the United States is not a Christian theocracy?Marriage is about commitment it has nothing to do with Jesus it is man made, it is a secular institution. Marriage has existed BCE so that mean God has nothing to do with marriage.Not it doesn't. God instituted it when Adam and Eve were created.You must also be one of the people who think sex is about procreation aren't you?No, I'm not.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

Do I care if the United States is not a Christian theocracy? By saying that your opposition to the US legally allowing same sex marriage is because marriage is about reflecting a relationship with God and the Christian church it certainly sounds like you want a Christian theocracy.God instituted it when Adam and Eve were created. I think carbon dating, geographical analysis, studying fossils and studying data for evolution disproves creationism and the existence of Adam and Eve this evidence goes in favor of evolution. The only thing that supports creationism is blind faith!
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

By saying that your opposition to the US legally allowing same sex marriage is because marriage is about reflecting a relationship with God and the Christian church it certainly sounds like you want a Christian theocracy.Atheists never have learned to look at context. Its sad... truly sad. I think carbon dating, geographical analysis, studying fossils and studying data for evolution disproves creationism and the existence of Adam and Eve this evidence goes in favor of evolution. The only thing that supports creationism is blind faith!Carbon dating has many flaws. Geographical analysis doesn't prove anything: both creation and long term evolution can be proven by it. Fossils don't prove anything the same as the one before. Nothing you have supplied proves evolution. You atheists really need to be more intellectually genuine.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

With that ill logic you should also protest against Muslim, Hindu, Atheist marriage, because they also don't give a shit about dead homeless carpenter...
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

Even if we were you assume your premise to be true, that doesn't mean that people shouldn't also have the right to marry someone of the same sex.The issue is actually about the right to marry the person you love, and about the legal recognition of same-sex relationships. These relationships are no different than those of opposite-sex couples, so why shouldn't there be the same right to get married and receive legal recognition and benefits of marriage?
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

Gays have the same rights as straights. Same sex couples have the same right to get married as straights. It is wrong to force your religious opinions on other people.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

1.) The Gay Rights Movement is in no way related to the Civil Rights Movement of the 60s. Race and sexual orientation are not comparable as one chooses to act on sexual impulses and one does NOT choose to be born into a race. Furthermore, homosexual people aren't being lynched, they're being elevated.2.) Marriage: http://1828.mshaffer.com/d/search/word,Marriage  As intended during the foundation of this nation and onward. This is the 1828 dictionary of Noah Webster, it doesn't get more foundational than that. Man and woman, sorry.3.) I do not disagree with homosexual couples being afforded the same tax breaks and employer benefits afforded to married homosexual couples pending a legal contract. I do, however, have a major problem with homosexual individuals forcing businesses and churches to forego their religious beliefs and recognize this union as a marriage or to perform services related strictly to the union of such homosexual couplings against their will or faith- as protected by the first amendment of our constitution.4.) Ironically, the APA does not consider homosexuality a mental disorder and yet it fits the bill by their definition as homosexuality renders the biological process of reproduction inoperable without external influence (artificial insemination, for example). Also, it should be noted that the APA changed its stance on homosexuality as a result of pressure from the movement, NOT scientific breakthroughs or evaluation.http://www.saybrook.edu/newexistentialists/posts/05-11-12 5.) Slightly off-topic, I believe that transsexual individuals are suffering from an identity crisis that may be brought on by delusions, hormonal imbalance, or simply bad parenting and should not be treated as the sex they are masquerading as (i.e. can't use the opposite sex's restroom). These persons are akin to people who believe they are super heroes and are given a cape instead of proper psychological evaluation and treatment.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

Thats a load of crap. There is nothing wrong with being gay. Merely not reproducing does not a disorder make.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

There's nothing wrong with having a mental disorder, it sounds like you're the prejudiced one.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

Yeah Im prejudiced for espousing tolerance. The irony of your statement is astounding.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

I never said it was intolerable, merely that there's a fault in the wiring. I don't hold with the idea of alienating or even rehabiltating homosexual persons, I just provided factual information that proves the homosexual drive for marriage isn't a matter of civil rights- it's just plain misguided and used to manipulate the masses into supporting liberal agendas without having to address actual policy issues. I do hold that transgendered people are undergoing and supporting a delusion and should seek help for their identity crisis. Homosexual persons, however, do not face oppression in the United States, but there are same-sex marriage advocacy groups that actively seek to (albiet unintentionally) rid other persons of their first amendment rights. I agree there are distasteful things said of homosexual persons, but these issues are not the realm of legislation.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

There is nothing wrong with being liberal either. you need to stop blaming gays, women, prochoicers, and liberals for your problems. You are also mistaken to think that gays dont face persecuting in the US. Many gays are murdered here. Go learn some facts before you open your mouth.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

Many more heterosexuals are murdered here. It's a statement that is utterly twisted and can be molded to suit your mood. Fact: a very small number of homosexual people are murdered because of their sexuality in the United States. I don't blame homosexuals or women for my country's problems, merely liberal politicians and policies. Now could you please post an argument that contains more information than your personal feelings.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

Precisely no doctors or scientists have concluded, treated or diagnosed homosexuality, bisexuality, pan-sexuality or any other sexual disorders as mental disorders you just pulled that out of your ass! Also you do not understand what the word prejudice (pre judging) means, even if you are saying that there is nothing wrong with a mental disorder that is still FAR from being prejudice! (pre judging)
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

To say this in a different way...Should infertile couples be able to get married? Reproduction has nothing to do with people's abilities to function in society.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

Exactly. Good point! .
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

What an intelligent and fact filled response......................................................................................
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

You told me you were a Christian. See now I see where you are coming from... the Christian Left (oxymoron).
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

If caring about civil liberties, wanting clean water, wanting clean nongmo food, opposing the current big pharma, and not wanting to police the world makes me a liberal, then I am a liberal. I am not sorry for what I believe and unless God proves me wrong, I never will be. I am not at all threatened, insulted, or confused by your cleverly disguised ad hom attack, and I never will be. I am not sorry for being a free thinker. I am not sorry for wanting actual intellectual discourse.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

1) I wasn't aware this was happening.2) You want to deny someone something because a dictionary says so? 3) No one is forcing churches to marry them.4) When a bunch of sane people tell you they are being considered as having a mental disorder, it kind of is a reevaluation.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

It happens a lot actuallyOne example is in London.There is another example about a florist refusing to arrainge a gay wedding because she was Christian.http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/ 2013/04/10/WA-State-Sues-Florist-for-Refusing-to-Service-Gay-Wedding
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

It happens a lot actuallyOne example is in London.http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/04/10/WA-State-Sues-Florist-for-Refusing-to-Service-Gay-WeddingThere is another example about a florist refusing to arrainge a gay wedding because she was Christian.http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/ 2013/04/10/WA-State-Sues-Florist-for-Refusing-to-Service-Gay-Wedding
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

It happens a lot actuallyBut you can't find a single instance of it happening to show me.One example is in London.England?There is another example about a florist refusing to arrainge a gay wedding because she was Christian.Your link shows you are wrong. The link doesn't have anything about the civil rights movement of black people.You provided the same link twice and it didn't support your argument. Please quote direct phrases next time.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

3) No one is forcing churches to marry them.That is what it was in reference to man. churches do get forced to marry them and Christians get forced to participate.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

Ok, your wording made more sense as a dispute to number 1. I just looked it up. Bakeries are, it turns out, not churches. Weird right. I thought bakeries were churches too, but I am big boned, so it makes sense.Still not sure about the London mention since it was the same link.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

It was? Sorry, lemme go again.A florist (not a bakery) who is a Christian is being forced to participate in a wedding which is against her beliefs. It's not a church, but let us move from semantics so you can understand my point. http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/ 2013/04/10/WA-State-Sues-Florist-for-Refusing-to-Service-Gay-Wedding _Now this is about a gay couple sueing a church for not allowing them to have a wedding in said church.‘I am still not getting what I want’: Gay couple suing church for refusing ‘wedding’http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/i-am-still-not-getting-what-i-want-gay-couple-suing-church-for-refusing-wed That is the link.You can completely disregard the first article because a florist isn't a church (even though I do believe it is synonymous because forcing a church is similar to forcing Christians and vice versa), but the second one is obvious.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

Semantics? You think this has to do with semantics? The florist is randomly picking which sins to deny her services to. That's discrimination, not sticking to her beliefs. Last time I checked, the first amendment does not extend to England. No Americans are suing churches.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/01/21/christian-bakery-guilty-violating-civil- rights-lesbian-couple/  I think that shoots a hole in that thought. Nice try though.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

Don't give me any more links. You guys don't understand that your link doesn't help you. Quote the text that helps you. That article says you are wrong. There is no mention that the bakery turns down all sinners and the 1st amendment still doesn't apply to England. Your link doesn't seem to dispute what I said.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

the Civil Right's movement is not exclusive to America; the parameters of the debate is not exclusive to America. I don't know what the first amendment is and i am not American. I don't care either. Moving on.The florist stated she would not be the florist for their wedding because she did not support gays getting married. She isn't picking which sins to deny services to, she is drawing a line in the sand between her and her customers. It is obvious that selling flowers to somebody isn't a sin, however being an active participant in their wedding can be considered one. And who are you to tell her if she is practicing discrimination or her religion.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

There is no indication the florist is not picking and choosing which sins she is against. Unless she checks everyone for their sins she is illegally discriminating. She is definitely practicing discrimination. The question is whether it is illegal or not.Homosexuality is just another sin. If Christians just treated it like any other sin they wouldn't seem so crazy. But, it is better than other countries. I don't like the lawsuits. The England church lawsuit should be thrown out, we'll see.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

The England church lawsuit was months ago, i don't know how it's going. The florist doesn't care if they sin, that isn't why she refused to do it. she just never wanted to feel like an active participant in the sin. She wasn't discriminating against sinners, she just never wanted to sin herself. that is what she translated it as.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: No

Does the florist avoid weddings for people who have gotten divorces and are getting remarried? Otherwise, she is picking and choosing.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

I don't know but you do have a point. She should avoid those too.
Debate: There is no reason for the gay marriage movement....
Side: Yes

Sanity is a legal/social term, not a psychological one. Also, having a disorder does not make one insane this is a flawed misconception. No one is forcing churches to marry them, but businesses (like bakeries) are being sued for refusing to bake a wedding cake for them. Small businesses can't survive a civil suit even if they win and that is surpressing someone's ability to exercise their first amendment rights. Furthermore if these suits fall in favor of the homosexual couple, it often forces the state to recognize those unions- sometimes against that state's constitution. Even if you agree with their "marriage" you must understand that ends do not justify the means.