Debate: Is forcing your child to be a certain religion, a form of child abuse?
Side: No

I really don't have time to dispute all this... oh well. Even if alternative perspectives are also guilty, this does not make yours any less guilty. So, yes, it is quite irrelevant. You are either a theist or atheist. If atheists are indoctrinating their children too, and you want to call that wrong, that would mean almost everyone is doing something wrong. It is more difficult to convince people everyone is wrong vs trying to convince people another group is wrong but your group is right. Anything that weakens your side is relevant. This shows that religious opposition to homosexuality has decreased while opposition to infidelity has increased, and argues that religious support for same-sex marriage may stem from the interest of reinforcing fidelity within non-heterosexual relationships. That was the main point of the article, but if you take a closer look at the graphs they show what I have been saying. People who went to church weekly are less likely to approve of homosexuality and extramarital affairs.  I was not arguing that homosexuals have a lower rate of HIV/AIDS than heterosexuals. I was pointing out that that rate has dropped in the homosexual population in correlation to increased acceptance, which substantiates my earlier argument that the higher rate is itself a consequence of resource/education inaccessibility engendered by discrimination (whereas the rate has actually increased within the heterosexual population).guess again http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2013/04/12/in-the-u-s-the-hiv-prevention-fight-has- stalled/ That was fairly implicit in my wording. If you no longer contest that point, however, then your overall point is completely voided; being homosexual may mean greater risk of contracting some STIs but being heterosexual may mean greater risk of contracting some other STIs. The harm is non-unique.uh huh, your right, should we start comparing fatalities?  At any rate, not all religious people condemned homosexuality to begin with so alteration is not at issue.All Christian groups started from a handful of churches going back to the time of the Apostles. They all universally condemned homosexuality. At some point in time, all the churches today that accept homosexuality had to make that change in their past. I understand to you we might all be the same, but would you equate someone who follows a 2,000 year old religion to say, a Scientologist? Some churches have changed their view of homosexuality even more recently than they came around! Your report does not show that in the least. This is also non-responsive to my point: even where religion does good this does not counteract the bad it also does. What bad? Valuing the life of an unborn child is bad? Teaching the golden rule is bad? Wanting the homosexuals to leave us alone is bad? If all religion is false, and there is no higher authority, than by what authority do you judge us as "bad". Moreover... if Christianity cannot solve for divorce then why make the point to begin with? Because it can give people the knowledge that divorce is not the right thing to do. It teaches people to think of something bigger than themselves. It idealizes the intact family while the most popular consensus among athiests will always to be to just do what makes you feel good now. This is not why the condition was declassified. It was declassified because further research indicated to practitioners that it was not actually a disorder. If you are going to claim otherwise, then you need to actually prove the "trans agenda" at work. Otherwise you are arguing an unfounded conspiracy theory.I would be very interested in seeing your best peer reviewed article on that subject.No, because suicidality is responsive to therapy. Gender dysphoria is not.You are telling me no one has ever been successfully treated for gender confusion without surgery? I am "mutilating" my body only as much as anyone who gets plastic surgery, tattoos, or piercings;Generally speaking, while many of those also are accurately described as mutilation, they usually don't destroy someone's reproductive function and completely change who they are. Gender identity is a cognitive state,Yes, and when your cognitive state is not reconciled with reality or possibilities it is a sign of a MENTAL DISORDER.call it "inbetween" if it makes you more comfortable ... it doesn'tand despite the ignorant bigotry I face every day ... that you bring upon yourselfYou misunderstand both the abstract and my point. They list all the causal correlates studies, including the potential non-negatives. Your pointing this out does not disprove the link between traditional masculinity and aversion to getting proper psychological help (unless you truly mean to suggest this is not a negative).Independence and confidence are positives... Manhood 101You don't have a resource to prize. You have failed to substantiate any of your arguments, having even attempted to do so only for one of your many assertions. You have not disproved or turned my substantiation to your side (claiming it is not doing it).My resource has lead me to a very good place in my life right now... You can put your happiness in the hands of surgeon you don't really know who is just in it for the money. Good luck. Plus, 99% of the exchanges we have had are just opinions and our own personal views on things. I can have an opinion and a line of reasoning without citing resources every step of the way. So can you... Actually if you notice, you didn't give a single reference in your entire last posting. I have no idea what you are trying to do by comparing apples to oranges, and at this point I honestly do not care.I think you said something about comparing the happiness of people who conform to gender vs people who don't. So I proposed we compare the suicide rates of housewives vs transsexuals. Then you said "well that is because transsexuals are oppressed" or something like that. To which I responded we should compare the suicide rates of illegal immigrants to transsexuals then. Your group is more suicidal than housewives and more suicidal to people who are authentically discriminated against. Maybe you should consider the possibility that your non-conformity to both society and nature that lead to so many suicides.