azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: Yes

It is.I already told you it wasn't. Scientifically it isn't. You haven't shown me anything.NoYes.We were talking about human having brains and all of a sudden you say ''almost all animals have brains'' .. I didn't bring anything up.No thats not how it went. I made an analogy and you made a response that didn't make sense. You brought up the human brain thing. I just made that up?? You just now made that up. I never said fetus isn't a potential life, actually I said it IS. And I never said a baby is or isn't a potential life. You keep bringing things up that has nothing to do with what we're talking about.Yes. Show me were I said the brainless child was a potential life. Otherwise you made that up. I never said you never said the fetus isn't potential life. You claimed that I said the brainless baby was "potential life" and you tried to correct me for something I never said.Haha, I'm not talking about caviar as a form of food. I'm talking about caviar before it has been caught. Fish eggs.Oh. Well then before that it grew, had a typical path of evolution, so yes that is an organism an I call it what ever species it came from.So you won the debate? The fetus is human because it will typically develop a brain?I never claimed a victory.
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: No

I already told you it wasn't. Scientifically it isn't. You haven't shown me anything.Neither have youYou brought up the human brain thing. I brought up the human brain because you brought up the animal brain - so as a practical way to know what we were talking about, I added the ''human'' since you added the ''animal''. Show me were I said the brainless child was a potential life.You claimed that I said the brainless baby was "potential life"Why? Did I claim you said that? Show me where I claimed that you said that, and then I will show you where you claimed it.Oh. Well then before that it grew, had a typical path of evolution, so yes that is an organism an I call it what ever species it came from.It develops, it grows - is it a human now ?Since you have trouble remembering your own claims, I am referring to this claim of your: It is alive. It’s growing. It’s developing. It’s responding. It’s functioning. I never claimed a victory.Just sounded like you came to a conclusion.But answer my question. Is it a human because it typically develops a brain?
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: Yes

Neither have youI explained it ti you. Skin is a component. Skin has cells. Those cells make up the organism which is you. Not your skin.I brought up the human brain because you brought up the animal brain - so as a practical way to know what we were talking about, I added the ''human'' since you added the ''animal''. No. I brought up the analogy saying that all animals have brains. Not animal brain. Why? Did I claim you said that?Yes. Indeed you did. It develops, it grows - is it a human now ?A fish egg? No. It is a fish. Never said the fish was a human. I said it is whatever species it is.Since you have trouble remembering your own claims, I am referring to this claim of your: It is alive. It’s growing. It’s developing. It’s responding. It’s functioning. Just sounded like you came to a conclusion.But answer my question. Is it a human because it typically develops a brain?Nope. That is just to counter your argument. My opinion is different from yours.Thanks. Yes. These traits make up a human.
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: No

Yes. Indeed you did. No I never said that. Please show me the quote where I accused you of saying that.You keep putting false accusations on me.I explained it ti youwow .. No. I brought up the analogy saying that all animals have brains. Not animal brain. Yes you mentioned animal brain - you said Almost all species have brains. Almost all species. And by species .. that must mean animal right? Or what else were you implying? Plants?A fish egg? No. It is a fish. Never said the fish was a human. I said it is whatever species it is.You didn't say it was human. Although you said it grows, it develops .. blah blah blah then you ended with ''it's human''. So the conclusion of that sentence would be ''if it grows and develops and all the other things you listed, then it's human''.Thanks. Yes. These traits make up a human.Okay. With the logic ''it will typically develop a brain, makes it human''then that must mean that 5 year old's typically turn into 6 year old's. Does that make them 6 years old at current point?
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: Yes

No I never said that. Please show me the quote where I accused you of saying that.You keep putting false accusations on me.You:Doctors call fetuses younger than 21 weeks potential lives, not babies.Me: I never said potential life is what the baby is. I said the child was a human. What are you even saying?wow .. It isn't hard to understand. You skin is a component. Not an organism. Yes you mentioned animal brain - you said Almost all species have brains. Almost all species. And by species .. that must mean animal right? Or what else were you implying? Plants?You do know species goes for any organism right? Even plants?Yes. Almost all species have a brain. Your standard brain. I didn't specify myself to an "animal brain". You didn't say it was human. Although you said it grows, it develops .. blah blah blah then you ended with ''it's human''. So the conclusion of that sentence would be ''if it grows and develops and all the other things you listed, then it's human''.Yes. The fish egg when fertilized is a fish.Yes. If a human fetus can do all that I deem it a human.then that must mean that 5 year old's typically turn into 6 year old's. Does that make them 6 years old at current point?That isn't my point. When I said traits I was referring to the it grow, it makes waste, etc. Not the typical brain thing. However a 5 year old will typically turn into a six year old.
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: No

You:Doctors call fetuses younger than 21 weeks potential lives, not babies.Me: I never said potential life is what the baby is. I said the child was a human. What are you even saying?How am I accusing you of saying brainless babies are potential lives with Doctors call fetuses younger than 21 weeks potential lives, not babies. ??It isn't hard to understand. You skin is a component. Not an organism. No it's not hard to understand, but it still false.You do know species goes for any organism right? Even plants?Yes. Or else I wouldn't ask you if you were implying that plants have brains, would I?I didn't specify myself to an "animal brain". So did you specify to a plant's brain?However a 5 year old will typically turn into a six year old.So then, by your logic, he is a 6 year old at current point.Because if fetuses is a human, because it will typically develop into a human, then a 5 year old is actually a 6 year old, because 5 year old typically turn into 6 year old's.
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: Yes

How am I accusing you of saying brainless babies are potential lives with Doctors call fetuses younger than 21 weeks potential lives, not babies. ??You corrected me on something I never said.No it's not hard to understand, but it still false.A human has no mutualism with skin. Skin is a component.Yes. Or else I wouldn't ask you if you were implying that plants have brains, would I?Good. Glad you understand that.So did you specify to a plant's brain?No.So then, by your logic, he is a 6 year old at current point.No. You aren't understanding how I judge a fetus as human. This is how I judge a fetus as a human: It’s growing. It’s developing. It’s responding. It’s functioning. It’s burning food and oxygen. It’s giving off waste products. Its cells are reproducing.Thats what I claimed. Because if fetuses is a human, because it will typically develop into a human, Nope. Because of this: It’s growing. It’s developing. It’s responding. It’s functioning. It’s burning food and oxygen. It’s giving off waste products. Its cells are reproducingYou completely and utterly missed my point when I claimed this. So the "logic" you are playing off is random.
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: No

You corrected me on something I never said.And somehow, by that correction, you thought I claimed you saying ''Brainless babies don't have the potential of life'' ?? What the fuck, if I may ask?A human has no mutualism with skin. Skin is a component.A multicellular organism.No.Then what were your intentions with ''Almost all species have brains'' ?This is how I judge a fetus as a human: It’s growing. It’s developing. It’s responding. It’s functioning. It’s burning food and oxygen. It’s giving off waste products. Its cells are reproducing.Almost all species do that - are all species human?
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: Yes

And somehow, by that correction, you thought I claimed you saying ''Brainless babies don't have the potential of life'' ?? What the fuck, if I may ask?You corrected me on something I never claimed. You had to had believed that I said it. You pretty much claimed that I did by correcting me.A multicellular organism.Did you just claim that skin is a multicellular organism? Wow. Skin is an organ. Not an organism. It is an organ of the integumentary system. Skin has cells in it. Like mesodermal cells. Skin itself it not an organism. It is an organ. The fact that you claimed that Skin is an organism goes against all forms of human anatomy. That is ridiculous. Skin is an organ. An ORGAN. Not an ORGANISM. Almost all species do that - are all species humanNo. It is whatever its species is. If we are talking about a whale fetus then its a whale. If we are talking about a cat fetus it is a cat. If we are talking about a human fetus then its a human.Now. Please for the sake of all human anatomy. Please realize that Skin is not an ORGANISM. It is an organ.
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: No

You corrected me on something I never claimed. You had to had believed that I said it. You pretty much claimed that I did by correcting me.You didn't answer my question.How did you get ''Brainless baby has not the potential of life'' out of ''doctors claim that fetuses under 21 weeks are potential lives'' ?And no - I never believe you said ''Brainless babies have not the potential of life''.I don't know where you got that from, that has GOT to be the most random thing I've ever heard.No. It is whatever its species is. If we are talking about a whale fetus then its a whale. If we are talking about a cat fetus it is a cat. If we are talking about a human fetus then its a human.Okay, so now you got that when something is a certain species being, it is ''developing, and all the other stuff you listed'' right?So because it develops now, because it does all the other stuff now, how does that prove it to be a human being?Because you can only prove the 5 week old fetus is developing and growing. You can't prove what it is growing and developing into.Which still brings me back to my earlier point .. if you think that because a fetus growing and developing at current point is proving it to be a human, then that must mean that because a 5 year old is growing and developing at current point, it proves he is 6 years old.
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: Yes

You didn't answer my question.How did you get ''Brainless baby has not the potential of life'' out of ''doctors claim that fetuses under 21 weeks are potential lives'' ?You corrected me for something I never said. You said "not babies" which implies that I claimed that potential life was for babies. I don't know where you got that from, that has GOT to be the most random thing I've ever heard.Calling skin an organism is in fact the most incorrect, random, thing that has ever been spoken it this debate. Okay, so now you got that when something is a certain species being, it is ''developing, and all the other stuff you listed'' right? Yes. It is developing into a more complex functioning organism.So because it develops now, because it does all the other stuff now, how does that prove it to be a human being?Because humans do the same thing.Because you can only prove the 5 week old fetus is developing and growing. You can't prove what it is growing and developing into.That makes no sense. We know it is developing into. If its a human fetus it is developing into a more complex functioning human. You cant even claim that. Which still brings me back to my earlier point .. if you think that because a fetus growing and developing at current point is proving it to be a human,No. Again. You just dismissed all of the other properties I applied. You deliberately avoided them. What are you doing?then that must mean that because a 5 year old is growing and developing at current point, it proves he is 6 years old.No. It means he is human. You analogy isnt sound with what I said. If he is five going on to six he is a human. That is my claim. Your claim is like saying an embryo and a fetus are the same since the embryo evolves into a fetus. No. Thats illogical. That cannot even be brought up.Also what happened with the skin thing? You claimed skin was an organism. Show me that it is an organism. Because it is not. It is an organ. Not an organelle, not a organism, but an organ. Please tell me you weren't serious in claiming that.
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: No

You corrected me for something I never said. You said "not babies" which implies that I claimed that potential life was for babies. That doesn't explain at all where you got the brainless stuff from.Btw, I wasn't correcting you, I made a statement.That makes no sense. We know it is developing into. If its a human fetus it is developing into a more complex functioning human. You cant even claim that. Indeed I can.We only know what it typically develops into, we don't know what the current 5week old fetus is developing into. Can you prove to me that it is developing into a human being? Can you prove to a currently 5week pregnant mother that her baby is going to develop into a human?No. It means he is human. You analogy isnt sound with what I said. If he is five going on to six he is a human. That is my claimI'm just saying what your logic says.You say that a 5week old fetus is human because it is growing.Then a 5 year old child is an adult because it's growing too.
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: Yes

That doesn't explain at all where you got the brainless stuff from.Btw, I wasn't correcting you, I made a statement.Sure.Indeed I can.We only know what it typically develops into, we don't know what the current 5week old fetus is developing into. We don't know what it will become? Will it do anything different like turn into a turtle or bird or something? That makes no sense.Can you prove to me that it is developing into a human being?Yes. Grab the woman and do an ultrasound.  Can you prove to a currently 5week pregnant mother that her baby is going to develop into a human?Yes. I will show her that her child only has her and her fathers DNA which is of human origin. The expected result, if the fetus doesn't die or get aborted, is that it will be human. I'm just saying what your logic says.No. You made that up.You say that a 5week old fetus is human because it is growingNo. Again you dismissed everything else I said. What are you even talking about? Remeber this: It’s growing. It’s developing. It’s responding. It’s functioning. It’s burning food and oxygen. It’s giving off waste products. Its cells are reproducing. It is currently a human.We are talking about traits vs species.Your example is trait vs age. That doesnt work.My logic would be that that 5 year old is human because he has the traits I listed above. Therefore he is human. You didn't quote my logic.Now. Will you admit that skin is not an organism? It is not a prokaryote. It is a component.
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: No

Yes. Grab the woman and do an ultrasound. So by an ultrasound you can tell the woman this fetus is in fact going to develop into a human being?Do I need to show you the rate of miscarriages in the first trimester?Yes. I will show her that her child only has her and her fathers DNA which is of human origin. The expected result, if the fetus doesn't die or get aborted, is that it will be human.That only shows it is a fetus made by her and her partner. It doesn't prove that the fetus will actually turn into a human being at some point.No. You made that up.Yes, using your logicIt’s growing. It’s developing. It’s responding. It’s functioning. It’s burning food and oxygen. It’s giving off waste products. Its cells are reproducing. It is currently a human.Is a 5 year old growing? I would think so.Is a 5 year old developing? I would think soIs a 5 year old responding? I would think soIs a 5 year old functioning? I would think soIs a 5 year old burning food and oxygen? HopefullyNo you can prove it being an adult, because you proved a fetus being a human being by that logic too.
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: Yes

So by an ultrasound you can tell the woman this fetus is in fact going to develop into a human being?It already is a human being.
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: No

No .
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: Yes

No .YesThe combining of the chromosomes of the spermatozoon and of the oocyte generates what every authority in human embryology identifies as a new and distinct organism. Whether produced by fertilization or by SCNT or some other cloning technique, the human embryo possesses all of the genetic material needed to inform and organize its growth. Unless deprived of a suitable environment or prevented by accident or disease, the embryo is actively developing itself to full maturity. The direction of its growth is not extrinsically determined, but is in accord with the genetic information within it.ii The human embryo is, then, a whole (though immature) and distinct human organism – a human being.  The President's Council on BioethicsWashington, D.C.July 2002
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: Yes

So by an ultrasound you can tell the woman this fetus is in fact going to develop into a human being?Do I need to show you the rate of miscarriages in the first trimester?Did you really think that all fetuses die or something? A typical fetus will turn into a breathing human being.That only shows it is a fetus made by her and her partner. It doesn't prove that the fetus will actually turn into a human being at some point.Have you seen any shapeshifting fetus'? The only thing it can do it become a breathing human. That is all it is capable of doing besides dying. No you can prove it being an adult, because you proved a fetus being a human being by that logic tooNo. Its Traits vs Species. Not Traits vs Age. Traits vs Species is my logic. Traits vs Age is something you made up.You keep avoiding the fact that you called skin an organism. Will you admit it? Because it isn't. It is an organ. Also if you are not going to quote my logic correctly then I cant debate with you. Your analogy makes no sense. You are not using my logic.
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: No

Did you really think that all fetuses die or something? A typical fetus will turn into a breathing human being.That doesn't prove that the current 5week old fetus is in fact going to develop a human brain.Have you seen any shapeshifting fetus'? The only thing it can do it become a breathing human. That is all it is capable of doing besides dying. This is my point - you can only argue with what we have seen in the past. You can not predict the future, you can not prove that the current 5week old fetus is in fact going to develop into a human being.
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: Yes

That doesn't prove that the current 5week old fetus is in fact going to develop a human brain.Of course not. Sometimes it doesnt develop a brain. I thought we were discussing beings but alright.This is my point - you can only argue with what we have seen in the past.Yes. We have studied enough fetuses to know that the only thing a fetus can do is attempt to become a breathing human.You can not predict the future,You can actually try.you can not prove that the current 5week old fetus is in fact going to develop into a human being.With past evidence and observances we know that it is only capable of turning into a breathing human and nothing else. That is all the proof we need to know that is everything goes well we will have a breathing human.
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: No

Of course not. Sometimes it doesnt develop a brain. I thought we were discussing beings but alright.We are, you claim fetuses are beings.etus can do is attempt to become a breathing human.Really? Proof?With past evidence and observances we know that it is only capable of turning into a breathing human and nothing else. With past evidence and observances we know that almost all past fetuses have tunred into breathing human.
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: Yes

We are, you claim fetuses are beings.Oh well you said brain so that threw me off. And yes. A being is just conceivable as existing. A fetus is in existence. It is a being.Really? Proof?Are you serious? It's biology. The cells will multiply and attempt to become a match of the parent organism. If we have a human fetus then all it will try to become is a walking, breathing, human.With past evidence and observances we know that almost all past fetuses have tunred into breathing human.Yes. And it is only capable of becoming the same species and the parent organism.
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: Yes

This is how I judge a fetus as a human: It’s growing. It’s developing. It’s responding. It’s functioning. It’s burning food and oxygen. It’s giving off waste products. Its cells are reproducing.I would add to this that it is the YOUNG of the parents who created it. It is an organism in its own right and the life it is living is its own. That all of our own lives can be traced back to that point (conception) and that science has determined that human beings do not morph out of one organism and into another (like frogs and butterflies do).
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: Yes

She just claimed that Skin is a multicellular organism......I can no longer take this seriously. Skin is an organ. Not an organism. Human anatomy makes that loud and clear.
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: Yes

She's completely discredited herself. It's sad really that none of the other pro-aborts have tried to same her some embarassment.
Debate: Do you believe the embryo/fetus is a human being?
Side: Yes

Skin is a component of an organism. It is a cluster of well structured cells. Your skin is not an organism. It is simply a component.Anything alive is an organismIt is a organ but not living. The top layer of skin is dead, but the two layers underneath are not.Question - 2.Is cell an organism by itself?2. Some organisms are cells but all cells are not organisms.ex; amoeba is an organism a skin cell is not Answered by: Walter HintzExpertiseScience teacher for over 50 years. MSc. in biology. I can answer questions in general biology, zoology, botany, anatomy and physiology and biochemistry.Experience in the areaI have a MSc in biology and have been a science teacher for over 50 years. At present I am a faculty member at a college and a science consultant at seven catholic schools.PublicationsThe Ohio journal of ScienceMomentum-The Journal of the Catholic Education Association