azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

Chapter 20, verse 11 of Exodus clearly states God created all things in six days and rested on the seventh day. If you add millions of years, or thousands of years, then you are changing the Bible to "God created all things in many years and a few days", and casting doubt on the entire Bible by implying it is open to personally tailored beliefs suiting whichever sinner is reading it. Who do you think you are to change God's word? God keeps His word and does not allow people to change it. When you change it, it's no longer God's word but your own word fraudulently claiming to be God's word.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

God said He created all things in six days. That is time as we know it. You are inventing unknowns claiming to know with NOTHING but your own imaginations to bolster your confusion of God's word.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

the beginning of time was in Genesis 1:1. "IN THE BEGINNING....." That was the beginning. Time began in the beginning, not on day four. Your talking nonnsense.If time did not begin until day four, how was the time counted for three days before day four? Try to use some common sense.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

How does time work?How do we know it's 6 am or 6 pm?What movements and rotations are needed for a 24hr day?The1st 24 hour day with the movements of earth and moon was on day 4. And day 5 was the 1st full 24 hr day. The days before that can be 24 hours 1000 years or millions of years. The 1st documents le 24 hour day was day 5!
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

Chapter 20, verse 11 of Exodus clearly states God created all things in six days and rested on the seventh day. If you add millions of years, then you are changing the Bible to "God created all things in millions of years and a few days", and casting doubt on the entire Bible by implying it is open to personally tailored beliefs suiting whichever sinner is reading it.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

It's like you have 1 verse and that is what you keep repeating.Go to Gen 1. Take each verse and show me your points with other scriptures backing it
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

Abel's offering was accepted because it was a blood offering. It was by the blood of innocent animals that God covered Adam and Eve's sin temporarily.Able's sacrifice was in obedience to God's demand that sin be paid for, and it's cost is life. It was not about if Cain or Able loved God, there is nothing to show Cain did not love God. Cain was trying to please God but it was not what God wanted. It took a blood offering to atone for sin.Your fake modern perversion of God's word dilutes the doctrine of the blood, and those fake Bibles are symptoms of your unbelief which causes you to add unbiblical stretches of millions of years to Genesis.It's the blood of Christ which paid for our sins. It was at the cost of an animal's life that Adam and Eve were covered with it's skin, a covering for their sin. The life of the flesh is in the blood, God took an animals' life in place of Adam's life, it's blood was shed and Adam wore it's skin identifying himself with the slain animal. Salvation is through faith in the blood of the Lamb of God, not through how much we love God or work for Him.By faith Able offered up a more excellent sacrifice. Able understood what the sacrifice meant and why it had to be God's way. You're whole post here mentions nothing of the real difference between Cain and Able's sacrifices......it's the blood.God provided plants and multiplied them. Cain worked caring for the plants. It was the same with Able and the animals, that was their jobs. What Cain should have done was to buy a sacrificial animal from Able in exchange for fruit from his crops and offered up a blood sacrifice. Whatever source you are getting your stuff from, if I had it in book form in my house I would burn it.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

There are a few different applications of Biblical prophesy. So you have "the 1st Adam brought into sin, the 2nd Adam brings us back to commune with God.You have application of historical Biblical application, as history and as lesson, and then future prophetic application. So Cain and Abel show the telling of the pleasing sacrafice of Jesus and the rejection and murder that told of Jesus' experience when He was to come. With that being a fulfilled prophesy. You may even have an end times application in. Cain was marked by God, there is a mark in revelations, maybe not "the mark" so all would know him and not harm him. And being a man who lived by his work which wrestled the ground for his survival, against the cursed ground from which man was made, and the ground man returns to. So he is a picture of living undwber the law, with judgement of hate and jealousy. And the curse of Cain grows as the 7 times cursed are those who murder Cain. So its no wonder that in the end times love waxes cold. And no wonder civilizations have experiences so much hate routed in hate, greed, and power.Cain and Abel are a picture also of works and grace. And also a picture of works under the law and faith. And also Abel's sacrafice of the first fruits is the beginning of sacrifices in worship and attonement which God expanded i generations to come, which obviously pointed to Jesus.I think you may be very condescending to people. You seem like a newer Christian Bible thumper. Even the 1st years combined with age those years can be harsh. What denomination do you belong to?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

I believe the Bible. That's all the really matters. You are trying to change the Bible, and pushing heretical teachings adding a lot of stuff that is not there.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

Saintnow your a wacko. Very dogmatic.How can you stand any other Christians.Read Timothy avoid foolish arguments. You fight everyone. Like your the truth corrector. And its not like you even use scripture.So your weak in scripture and you take verses out of context, and you use the word in an incomplete immature way.I appreciate your zeal but what's you motive?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

The Bible says I'm supposed to condescend to men of low estate. I'm coming down to your level trying to show you that somebody is teaching you lies and making your head big so you think you know God's word better than He knows it, you think you can explain His word better than He explains it.In Jude we are told to earnestly contend for the faith, and it's simple, the truth is simple so that a child can understand and you are trying to make all kinds of complications by twisting words and taking scripture completely out of context. You are not a Bible believer, you are being blown by strange winds of strange doctrines and casting doubt on God's word. You need to be rebuked, you probably will remain proud and not hear it but I tried.When I hear people like you explaining all kinds of gibberish like you are doing here, I have to doubt that the Spirit of God is in you, I have to doubt that you are saved because the Holy Spirit never goes against the Word of God and you are practically making it up as you go along....led by somebody who has got your head pumped up thinking you can explain God's word better than He can.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

Use scripture prove yourself to be a Workman accurately handling the word.You don't use scripture, you must not know it well. READ IT!21Therefore, if anyone cleanses himself from these things, he will be a vessel for honor, sanctified, useful to the Master, prepared for every good work. 22Now flee from youthful lusts and pursue righteousness, faith, love and peace, with those who call on the Lord from a pure heart. 23But refuse foolish and ignorant speculations, knowing that they produce quarrels. 24The Lord’s bond-servant must not be quarrelsome, but be kind to all, able to teach, patient when wronged, 25with gentleness correcting those who are in opposition, if perhaps God may grant them repentance leading to the knowledge of the truth, 26and they may come to their senses and escape from the snare of the devil, having been held captive by him to do his will.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

I have already proved you are ignoring the Bible and making up stuff to suit your own feelings. The fact that you won't concede only means you won't concede.I don't want to fight with you, I think it's a shame the way you trash the Bible and replace it with your own ideas.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

You can call me a Bible Thumper, that's fine.The Bible stands though the Earth may crumble and the mountains fall and the hills may tumbleI will plant my feet on it's firm foundationFor the Bible stands.I'm a gospel preaching King James Bible believing born again disciple of Jesus Christ. You are a disciple of some men who are teaching you heresies.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

What you are teaching is not Biblical, why do you make no mention of the gospel, the deity of Christ, His bodily resurrection, and the reality of Hell fire?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

Saintnow you are judgemental lyrics impaired. What do you think is so wrong with my faith that you think this.Are you an incompetent reader? Have you bothered to read what I have posted? Your arguing and judging is a poor testimony to others!
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

As far as blood I have many statement referring to the work of the cross. The attonement and cleansing from Jesus' blood. Without the blood there is no cleansing of sin. We have the unblemished lamb, Jesus. Isaiah 53 and the Passover story clearly shows we are in the "Arc" "our lives hidden in Christ" sealed with His blood, on the door posts of us temples, as Egypt is swept away, we stand in Him. Sealed with the Holy Spirit.So I don't know where you got any of that.You are not being a good witness by constantly arguing and judging people as heretics the way you do.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

You said "So when Cain offered from the ground, he was offering from that which is cursed, as man is dust, dust from ground, groud is cursed."The animals are under the curse of sin and death the same as the ground. The whole creation is under the curse of sin at this time. The difference in Cain and Able's sacrifice was the life's blood of the animal which represented the blood of the Lamb of God which takes away the sins of the world.Able believed God, and by faith offered up a more excellent sacrifice. Able understood what God wanted and obeyed, Cain tried to do it his own way, not understanding why his way was wrong when he gave God his best.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

Actually that's not true. All Creation groans waiting for the children of God to be revealed. The Snake was cursed to be lower than all the animals. And if the account is accurate in wording, it says man was made then God went and prepped a garden for him. And then God placed man in itThen He made and brought the animals before Adam, none a suitable companion. He made Eve from Adam. And Adam was made from dust outside of the garden.So nature is neutral and in subjection to futility . And we have many scriptures that say nature praises God, Nature doesn't choose anything. And it glorifies God because it knows there is one.Here is God shutting out of the garden.Gen 322 Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil; and now, he might stretch out his hand, and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever”— 23 therefore the LORD God sent him out from the garden of Eden, to cultivate the ground from which he was taken. 24 So He drove the man out; and at the east of the garden of Eden He stationed the cherubim and the flaming sword which turned every direction to guard the way to the tree of life.Here is the wording of the curses:  Cursed are you more than all cattle, And more than every beast of the field; On your belly you will go, And dust you will eat All the days of your lifeThe snake was cursed more. The animals carried a burden of the curse in subjection to God's will.And the snake eating the cursed ground, the dust.19 For the anxious longing of the creation waits eagerly for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself also will be set free from its slavery to corruption into the freedom of the glory of the children of God. 22 For we know that the whole creation groans and suffers the pains of childbirth together until now. 23 And not only this, but also we ourselves, having the first fruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, waiting eagerly for our adoption as sons, the redemption of our body. 24 For in hope we have been saved, but hope that is seen is not hope; for who hopes for what he already sees? 25 But if we hope for what we do not see, with perseverance we wait eagerly for it.Here is mans curse, of course Eves was child birth and subjection. But for the man - Cursed is the ground because of you; In toil you will eat of it All the days of your life. 18 “Both thorns and thistles it shall grow for you; And you will eat the plants of the field; 19 By the sweat of your face You will eat bread, Till you return to the ground, Because from it you were taken; For you are dust, And to dust you shall return.”They were from the ground of the garden. So nature praises God. Nature is neutral, the ground is cursed. Man is cursed to work with toil, it would be with difficulty with the ground ultimately winning, in death returning to the ground. So you live fighting it and you die trapped in it.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

Ok, so you got me on the fact that man was created and then placed in the garden after God planted the garden. Now tell me, why do you want to follow the clear and simple wording in this verse but you want to complicate the story of Creation by saying we really don't know what a day is, and you insist it was not a literal 24 hour day and than add all kinds of scripture taken completely out of context to support your rejection of the plain and simple wording from God's own mouth when in Exodus 20:11 God said He created the heavens and the earth and all that is in them in six days?Nature is subject to vanity, not futility, because of sin, it's falling apart because of sin, if God does not step in and stop the process it will eventually all disintegrate, every particle in the entire universe will fall apart and all of creation will dissipate. It was the cost of allowing Adam and Eve to continue in this world in the death they earned, rather than executing them on the spot and leaving them in Hell where sin belongs. Death overshadows all of creation because justice demands it, God cannot allow Adam and Eve to remain in a living world, we are in a dying world, we are in the first death, the Lake of Fire is the Second Death.I notice two things about your doctrine, you avoid talking about the blood which is the life of the flesh and the blood of Christ which was shed for the remission of sins, and you avoid talking about the penalty of sin which is eternal condemnation in Hell's fire. I really doubt that you are saved, and I doubt that anybody except those in whatever your cult is can pretend to understand your doctrine.The whole creation groans because sin messed it up, it's all disintegrating because of sin, man's sin. The only way God could keep man in Creation was by death permeating creation, and it started when God took the skins of an animal, a blood sacrifice picturing the Lord's blood which we are saved by faith in His blood. God's other choice was to limit death to the one who deserved it, Adam, and Eve would have gone in death to, both of them, permanently dead in Hell forever. Then there would have been no need to cover their sins with the skin of a creature. The creature and the creation go together, lost people today who believe in evolution worship and serve the CREATURE , or the creation, rather than the Creator.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

science which claims millions or billions of years is false science and we are not supposed to support lies.You skipped over the part where Paul says the woman should not usurp authority over the man. Besides that point, your doctrine is so far off on many points it would be silly for me to try to answer them all since you just ignore solid reasoning and jump to another topic......and I hate to say it, but your feminine instincts are in play here.There is nothing that says the flood cleansed the ground, and their is nothing that says God lifted the curse placed on the ground when Adam sinned. A lot of your stuff is heretical, you keep adding more and more of your own feelings, adding things to the Bible that are not there, and I want to know who taught you to do that? You are adding things to the Bible which are not there in order to make yourself feel better in your methods of trying to persuade others, well intended but based on your feelings rather than on the Word of God, you are changing the Bible and God does not give permission to change His word. You are using perverted fake Bibles which have changed God's word, then you are adding your own changes as you go along. Somebody taught you this stuff or you are making it up as you go along. I heard it before, I considered this doctrine long ago and it does not hold up logically to the word of God.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

And your an authority? Over women?Yeah um go read 1 Corinthians, your missing a good bit. You are very proud. You may want to handle that.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

No, I"m a man. I do not have women in authority over me to show me how to walk with God. How come the only time in Genesis where God spoke to Eve was when He called her on the carpet for her role in getting Adam to eat the forbidden fruit?God walked and talked with Adam in the garden, and Adam instructed Eve. The serpent, Satan, cast doubt in Eve's mind about what God had said to Adam and Adam had told Eve. Eve did not know what God had said, she said God had said not to touch the fruit. Eve added that part herself, maybe Adam told her not even to touch it, but there is nothing in the Bible which says God told anybody not to touch the fruit. Like Eve, you are adding things to the word of God which are not there, and like Eve you should be in obedience to your husband and not going off in your own feelings where you can be deceived.Adam would have done well to turn his back on Eve after she sinned. I believe Jesus would have died for Eve to save her from Hell, but Adam did not have to die with her. God would have taken another rib and made a new Eve for Adam.If you won't listen to reason, you won't listen no matter how many chapter and verse references I post. I am not at all impressed by the way you take all kinds of passages out of context to support your additions to God's word, and less impressed by how you use so many passages out of context to support your deletions of God's word
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

I'll read Corinthians, again, after I finish reading Romans. I won't have a woman telling me what to read or when to read it. I wear pants, and my guess is you wear pants too. Sorry, pants are for men.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

science which claims millions or billions of years is falseI'd like to see that.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

No you would not like to see that or you would see it. It's not hard to find scientific evidence against the big band.........and I call it the big band because it's just a put on show, it's just entertainment for people who think they are justified to live and death relieves them of their troubles.All of science can be explained in full accordance with six literal days of Creation and the Biblical account of the global flood. A lot of science has to be ignored to cling to evolution and the big bang. You do not want to see the science which contradicts your beliefs because you love your religion of naturalism more than you love life, you embrace death as you serve created things rather than the Creator who will deliver you from death into eternal life if you will believe on Him and trust Him, but all you do is fight against Him so all He can do is be against you, and if you keep up the fight you lose everything in Hell. God does not lose, you are lost and will be lost forever in the fire of Hell if you won't stop fighting against your Creator.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

It's not hard to find scientific evidence against the big bandThen find it.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

I'm not the one asking for it, knucklehead................................
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

You made the claim. Do you or do you not have evidence to support that claim?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

See for yourself if you get out of being you in death, and see for yourself if you have the right to exist outside of Hell. Prove you have the right to exist outside of Hell, to yourself of course because I know you do not have that right, I"m not asking you to prove anything for me. What you believe you will just have to try to prove it for yourself, won't you? Yep, that's what you are doing, dying all the way. I really feel sorry for you but you are consistently nasty toward me and I'll give you little if any of my time to read your words. I've had enough. God has more patience than me, the proof of that is the fact that you are not burning in Hell now. The more you are thankless toward God, the more His wrath is heaped up on you. Your life is not my problem, you are destroying yourself and you can't blame God for leaving you in your destruction. Fire awaits you and the way you are going I really think you will be consumed by it.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

But he is right, Mr. Saint.The burden of proof rests upon you and your claim that a place called Hell even exists. And then further that we who do not believe in such a place are condemned to it.Because all of us non-believers--atheists--DO exist. We live and think and reason and have all the inherent rights of life as do you. Nature ans science do not mention anything like a Hell. Or a heaven. Those are places only found in books like the bible that were written thousands of years ago by men. Men who had their own beliefs and agendas. Thus...we modern atheists are in no way beholden to them.Such as I am not beholden to the author of The Book of Narnia, or Greek Mythology, or the Wizard of Oz.You might as well claim to us that we have no right to exist outside of Oz. Or no right to climb Mount Olympus.You are ascribing to unproven Hebrew Mythology and then telling us to prove it is correct. Sorry...we have no need to prove anything. Our existence is all we need. Science tells us how life is began and sustained and what will kill it. Biology shows us in real life and real observations and real experiments what science explains.Nowhere in this equation is a need of a Hell. It simply does not fit and had no proof. No purpose. It is a literary invention being thrust upon us, who with our science and our very lives have no need for it. The only people who DO are those who believe in the Bronze Age literature from which it comes.So....instead of asking us to prove we have the right to exist outside of Hell, we would in turn ask you to prove that such a place even exists.Can you do it without your Bible? I sincerely doubt this. But I would welcome your attempt and I will listen to what you have to offer.Thanks.SS