Debate: Should the minimum wage be abolished?
Side: Yes.

Let me start off with this, whenever I disagree with you it doesn't make me ignorant or closed minded and I'm not indoctrination you, its called a debate.As I have said, money is not needed for an economy. There'd be no ruining anything, there would only be change from one to another.Money is not needed for an economy, however, eliminating money would push humanity back to the barter system which would severely complicate and hurt trade.Who said anything about forcing people to work? I definitely did not.Your asking for an economy based on what people need to survive, similar to a distribution center. In this system (doesn't matter if you want it to happen or not) it would be run by a large organization or government, when a government controls everything and what you get is based on your work then you are forced to work for them.To have resources you do not need money. To create money you first need resources. Seriously! You are basically saying that before money was made up there were no resources, but since you need resources to make money then how can it currently exist? There were no resources to create it from! Get it?You need resources to generate money, exactly, thus to the point I made before which you didn't get, I am not saying resources come from money, if they did not have money there were likely no resources to create money from. There is a demand for something and it gets delivered, no exchange of money is necessary.Again, thats what you want to happen, but it will work either of these two ways (or a mix of them): Either there is a massive state that supplies, regulates and distributes all these products and you have to work and serve them to get your share or you have to trade other resources to get what you want, if you dont have what they want then your out of luck where as with money the transaction is simple, they give you a resource and you give them a medium for trading resources.There would be less issues, I've already explained that a bit. There would be a private sector. You think if someone gets a good idea that people would benefit from the state would simply claim it?You didn't explain it, you stated that there would be less problems cause there would be no money, you never countered anything else. There wouldn't be a private sector, the main distributor of these products would likely be the government, if it wasn't it would probably be a large corporation or organization.That's naive. Trade is not necessary in the first place, as I've also explained.You didn't explain, you just said that trade was not needed for survival. Naive? I'm not the one who thinks that eliminating money will solve most of the problems in the world and eliminate most of the negative parts of human nature.My way is better, as I've explained but you clearly lack the capacity to realize it.I don't agree with you, I must obviously not have the brain capacity to understand your naive views of the world.Oh, and leave prejudice out of it, it will mess it all up.SO me supporting my idea is prejudice but you thinking that your little fantasy will work and it will better the world even though it is clearly flawed isn't?I'll leave money aside. Economy means the management and use of resources and products. No trade.How exactly would it destroy economy, if resources, products, and all else are managed?The economy is trade, the regulation of resources and products on a massive scale is called state distribution. If there is no trade, there is no economy.People would already be used to the fact that money is worthless.Do you even know what money is? Allow me to explain to you what money is, for a while there was no medium of trade, we used the barter system, if you wanted food you traded for something the other guy wanted, obviously this system had its problems. Eventually people decided that silver and gold were valuable medals and they should be used as medium to simplify trade and it worked great, but people wanted to keep their money safe, so banks started popping up, now instead of having to run to the bank every time you wanted to buy something they would give you a bank note that you could use as legal tender. THAT is what money is, it is not just some tool used to rule people and be greedy.It is called greed, otherwise they'd higher wages or lower prices of products. Successful because you earn far more than you need - distorted understanding.They shouldn't have to lower their profits, stop expansion and hurt their business because your not happy with it. This whole "earning more than you need" thing is bullshit, alright someone made more than you and have some to spare, they shouldn't be forced to give it up because others were to lazy to earn it or were unable to.You're the one not understanding. There would be far less corruption. I've explained this also. It's like you ignore almost everything I say.You don't get it do you, just because you say "in my little fantasy there would be less corruption because there would be no money" doesnt mean it will work out that way, I don't think your some evil bastard trying to ruin the world, I think you believe what your doing and saying is right, but that doesn't mean it work that way because when you look at it in a realalistic way its a lot far from what you want it to be.Currently, corrupted people use money to get people supporting them, if there were no money they could only use their own mind.There are many other forms of power, money just gets the to it , there are resources, strength, intimidation, fear, authority, sex, false hope, propaganda, ect that can get you to power, destroying money would not put and end to this, it would just change how they get to power.I think you don't know what greed means... I'm not greedy, if I want something then there is a practical reason for it.Money promotes greed. No money, far less greed.We are ALL greedy on some level, just like we are all angry on some level, there is a difference between someone who gets angry every once in awhile and someone who gets in a fight every day. Again, money doesnt promote greed, power promotes greed because greed is a want for power.Excessive money, right? Because I see how flawed it all is?Someone one making more than you and living better than you isn't flawed, your lumping anyone with a higher income than into the same catagory as Africa and Carribean politicians who live in Palaces next shacks and destroyed houses, there is a difference.It is greed if you have far more than you need and are unwilling to use it.They are usuing it, the assumption is that anyone who makes more than you just puts it in the bank, thats called saving there nothing wrong with it but regardless most rich people don't do that, they reinvest their money into the economy.And the point for that would be? Just hoarding things you'll never use? That's stupid.You don't understand, money is a medium for trading resources and is used to get power at times, people who had lots of money would just get lots of resources. You think people were perfect little angels and were far less greedy until simplified trade? Really?Say, for some reason something happens to money, or the whole money-based economy. People are used to working for money. Would they still work if they didn't get paid for it? I doubt they would. No, of course not, the system collapses when a currency becomes worthless which is almost always through inflation, where there is more money than actual gold and silver to back it up. Biased again...You work and you get for free anything you need.Its not free, 1. you had to work it 2. was it free to make? Did no labor, resource or time go into creating it?You do know that people differ and so there must be many varieties of things?Yes, and if there is a variety of things in a system with trade there would be a variety of businesses, so long as there are enough resources to make the product.No, but money could not be used to get them. Money is an easy way for getting anything, if you have enough of it. No money, all you can use is yourself.Money is an easy way to get to power, again there are many other ways that are much easier to get into power. When you say "no money, all you can use is yourself" you say it like money is the only way to power.Yet I have corrected you about human nature.Corrected? You were wrong, thats not really a correction.Not in college. But I was in university once (chemistry). I know what the real world is like, it's messed up.Well your not showing any signs of it, you seem to think that people are little angels and that currency is what causes them to be evil.How human nature really works? Human nature is simply the characteristics that humans have.Yes, and greed is a characteristic that humans have!If you did, if you included all the necessary aspects and you left your prejudice behind the door you would see that it could and would work.Me not agreeing with you isn't called being prejudice, I'm trying to explain to you that your system is flawed. I don't think your an evil person and I know you intend to good with this, people aren't going to pull out a handbook your wrote and say "oh gee, we cant do this cause Nummi said so" they're going to use it to their advantage and corrupt it which happens in ALL systems made by humans.