Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Free Health Care

Don't care abut the past.1. Our current economy is monitored and regulated because we are trying to centrally plan it, I am strongly against this.Against it from bias, not objectiveness. You don't think about all possibilities, you only regard to the biased texts you've read and heard. Central planning could work... you are so narrow-minded there's no other point for this "debate" but entertainment.You need a medium of exchange for value for trade.And trade is not necessary.(ex: the store gives me food and I give nothing back)You give back your time in being an important link in the progress of humanity, either by producing something or doing any job.Shortsighted and narrow-minded. You cannot see the whole picture, yet think you are right. Pathetic.If you want 9 billion people to all be able to function in a world without money or trade you would have to have it be planned.Even now things are planned.If you would like to have the food store give away free food, the factories give free food to the super markets, the farmers give free food to the factories then all these companies getting their supplies for free then all those companies getting their supplies for free ect. it would have to be planned. Unless of course the economy only consist of 20 people.Shortsighted, narrow-minded, and stupid too. Oh, and biased.It would not have to be planned any more than it currently is. In fact it would be less planned, as there's no inclusion of money.Money just happens to be the most efficient way.Wrong, it happens to be kept alive by ignorance and greed. And it also happens to be the world you were born in and raised in and thus brainwashed into thinking this is the only one that can work and into thinking this is the best one. Well, you're dead wrong; those who taught you and those who wrote the texts you read were also.The most efficient would be a system without trade. I've explained enough, with simple logic you lack for understanding.It was allowed. Back when banks that issued currency were private you could choose what currency you used to trade, or, every one could have chose not to trade at all and just have a money free society.As I said, I do not care about the past. Also seems to me you're not getting the fact that in the past things were different.My theory is based on logic and knowledge, where as yours is based on how you wish the world would function. Thinking that anyone who has knowledge is illogical is immature, grow up.Your theory is based on prejudice and apparently the incapability to think larger, bigger. You literally cannot see the world as it is, you cannot see all aspects of it, you cannot analyze it and make the right conclusions. And that's all bad for you and those who actually listen to you.As I've said, knowledge alone does not make one smart. You think highly religious people don't have knowledge? They do, about their idiotic religion. Are they smart? Oh fuck no.Back to the "I'm logical you're not" speech, ah how childish.How is observation and conclusion childish?IT is amusing how you can't actually support your arguments without your whole "uh, well, you're just biased" thing. How pathetic.I have supported my arguments with logic. You're the one whose mind is not straight and thus cannot understand.You don't NEED a computer, you just want one, give it away your greedy bastard. You have a home that could likely house more people than just you, give it away you greedy bastard! There are people without computer and housing, so open up your door and offer everyone free internet and housing... unless you're greedy of course.This is really immature...Those are life's necessities. What is necessary is not of greed. Those things I need, literally need.If you think I do not need them then... Are you wearing clothes? You don't need clothes, you can live without. The building you use for living in, you do not need it. Go back to the wild, naked, hunt for food and live your life of no "greed".Human progress - something you cannot fathom.It has a great place in trade. But then again, you see people voluntarily trading resources with a medium of exchange to be greedy.Again interpreting things they way you want not the way they are?All I said about a medium of exchange is that it is not necessary, that, in fact, it is negative to humanity's progress, compared to what could be. And that it promotes greed.Short, narrow, and so fucking stupid - your mind.Lets say I have coal and you wanted to buy coal, but you don't have enough money, you can't get it.I wasn't talking about wants, I was talking about needs.Since money is backed up by resource, if you get rid of money you would either A. get the resources your money was backed up by and still not have enough to get the coal, or B. if its a fiat currency you end up with nothing, so you'd be even more screwed.You are truly stupid. I have explained how it would be with no money. Really not my problem you lack enough logic. It's like fussing with a religious lunatic stuck with idiotic beliefs and unwilling to learn.No money - you get the coal for free. The one you got the coal from gets something, anything, he needs from others for free. Everyone gets anything they need from anyone for free. The end.I happen to smoke Marijuana every now and then, does that make a full blow addict how is always high? No, thats called being biased.And again interpreting things they way you want to not the way they are. Nice, at least you're keeping your pathetic self consistent.There is no drug that I am aware of that goes up your ass. Biased moron.I'm sure you should be able to think of some, after all... your're the drug user here. Biased moron.You calling me biased moron back wasn't effective at all... it was weak.If you have no skills and aren't all the bright, then yeah, having everything be free is probably the way to go.Talking about things you literally know nothing about. Keep that up.I am not the one calling every an idiot and saying how everyone is biased, stupid and can't think. That would be you, that is very pretentious.Again interpreting things the way you want to... I never said everyone. Just you and very many others others.You don't much and you are completely wrong.Don't much what?Completely wrong not at all. What I said is true, whether you like it or not. I've seen it many times in real life.It doesn't, however, having no knowledge doesn't make you open minded. Actually, for the most part people who have very little information are closed minded and just wall themselves in to their own view.Open minded enough. Why should I keep hoarding pointless knowledge once it is clear it is of no positive use? It wouldn't be smart at all. Why waste my time on something I will never need, or something that will never be of any good use?Explain how I am blinded by knowledge. Because I happen to know a thing or two about how things work, where as you just simply act as if any knowledge contrary to your doctrine of belief makes me blind. You're like a kid, if someone doesn't agree with you, they are wrong. If they prove you wrong, they are indoctrinated and blind.How? You can't see the world objectively, that's how.If someone doesn't agree with me then someone doesn't agree with me. If someone says something stupid and just dead wrong then they are wrong. It has nothing to do with my opinions.I don't have beliefs.You haven't proven me wrong. Rather the opposite by not giving logical and objective explanation why you should be right.Let me clear this up, I never just assumed that it would never work.Yet you speak as if it would never work. As if it is impossible.Yo assume that because that I just saw "no money" and then yelled at the top of my lungs "gasp, i've never heard of that before! it could never work!"Again interpreting the way you want to...you're not the first person I've debated currency with, you likely won't be the last. I didn't assume you were wrong, I just argued for why you were wrong.'I'm not wrong. But you sure are and also are unwilling to let go your false beliefs.I constantly question my beliefs just like most people who think about the world do. Just because I view this differently you than you does not mean in anyway that I don't ask questions to myself.Exactly my point and exactly why I said "Questioning is easy, form a question and it's done. But when comes time to answer..."Actually, slavery is an almost moneyless system. Instead of paying your workers you just provide them with food.A system where the workers do not decide over their own lives. A system where they are forced to work by threats to life, or with torture or any punishment.A very weak attempt at comparing.if there was no money you would be worrying about how many resources you have and how many you will need.You think currently this is not necessary? You do not look at money and how much of it you have, you look at how much resources you need. And however much they cost that much they cost.Just because you have lots of money does not mean you can buy that much resources with it.Working for money is like working for anything else.Yet it is not.Instead of getting food, a home and anything else you need you get the resources to get these things.If you work anyway... then what is the point of getting a "permission" to get what you need?Someone gives you enough money for a house, its not "oh shit, all I have is this paper" you say "fuck yeah, I can get a house"I wouldn't say that.As I said, the products and resource are and will always be there, ready for use. They are necessary. Why hinder the use of something that is needed?What do you think I would do in a situation where I was given the chance to get all the money in existence versus getting rid of it all instead?