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Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson was born and raised in riches. Yet, in spite of this, his parents always taught him to stick up for the little guy. The guy who didn't have much, the underdog who the rich overlooked. He especially thought the farmers and planters, the ones who grew the food the rich ate, had wisdom and insights that were often pushed aside. He was the author of the Declaration of Independence, an influential politician, and a voice for the people. Thomas Jefferson wrote the document that declared independence from Britain. The Declaration of Independence was the paper that was given to King George the Third to tell him the baby bird had left the nest. This was and still is one of the most influential documents in American history, a statement to the people that they are free. Being the main author of this document, Jefferson made sure to make his position clear. He wanted everyone to know that no matter their background, amount of money they had, or social standing could stop them from their very own 'pursuit of happiness.' He believed these words with all his heart, and everyone could see his heart on his sleeve. He was praised for it, but it also made him an outsider to many. His role in declaring America and independent nation can not be rivaled, and his vision for America and it's independence lasts until this very day. Jefferson was an influential colonial leader and politician. He believed that the people should be in charge of themselves, and he was a leader of the Democratic view. He opposed the thought that the people who were just born into fine families should be the only people given the chance to change the nation. The idea and vision that the people should have the power is still the main government today, and he was the main reason that the idea even exists. Thomas was always a voice for the common people. He was always side-by-side with the poor, even though as a child he was raised with the rich. He was surrounded by people who thought that money was connected directly with the heart of a person, but he knew and was taught by his parents that that was not true. By having that insight from his parents he was able to connect with more people and get more thoughts from more than just the rich. He was able to be a great president later on because he was able to connect with not just the rich, but also the poor. He was able to benefit all people, and continue to be a voice for everyone.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

I like that you gave his back story and how he was raised compared to others of his time it shows that it all depends on what morals you are taught as a child
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

I like the fact that Jefferson never forgot where he came from, but didn't allow it to define his beliefs.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

In my perspective I believe Thomas Jefferson had a more enduring vision of America rather than Hamilton because he truly believed in the People. Thomas Jefferson believed fully that everyone is equal, and that everyone has a different perspective on things. Since everyone does indeed have their own view on things, this way of government can bring diversity, and wise decision making to America.  Rather than Hamilton who believed the strong central government (much like Britain) should control over the states instead of listening to the people. This way of government obviously didn't work out, shown by the American Revolution. Yes we are human, and yes humans tend to get selfish but Jefferson believes the people will come together and make decisions that is truly best for everyone. Think about it, we live our everyday lives and we know the current problems that the government might be causing ,are problems the government just can't see. Thats why Jefferson believed the people could solve these problems,making the government at peace. Now think about this, freedom of speech, freedom of religion, or right to a speedy trial. If it wasn't for Thomas Jefferson you wouldn't have these rights. Jefferson made sure to never let a common person be treated unfairly to the rich government just because of a "power" difference. Jefferson forced these rights for the people because with a strong central government these rights would protect the people and not be treated unfairly by the government like Britain did. Yes I do believe that Hamilton was right to think of alliances with the U.S., and to set up national banks. But, Hamilton only believed in the "rich" people and didn't believe in equality. This in my opinion would start riots because just like in Britain, the people would have little say. But, putting the power to the people like Jefferson believed, this would be a more fair and successful way of government.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

I agree completley with your statements. Jefferson only wanted the best for the people, but he wanted the people to be involved in what was happening in our country. He wanted it to be far for all of us. He is the reason why we have such great rights today.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

We can break this down into three categories. Economical, social, and political.Economical:Hamilton favored a national bank, public debt, a strong commercial and industrial society, tariffs.Jefferson opposed the National bank and wanted state banks instead. Debts to be paid quickly, and an agrarian society.Social: Hamilton favored the wealthy running the country and was supported by the upper class whereas Jefferson favored the common people in charge and was supported by the lower and middle class.Political: Hamilton favored a strong central government based on the British system, broad interpretation of the constitution, a central government that is active in the economy and military, opposed the idea of states rights.Jefferson believed in a more democratic government that increased states rights and a more strict interpretation of the constitution, especially separation of church and state.So, on the question of who had the more enduring vision of the US, here is the final breakdown.economical- favors Hamiltonsocial- favors Jeffersonpolitical- favors JeffersonSo my vote goes to Jefferson
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

He is more known then Alexander Hamilton and he was one the men who actually authored the declaration of independence.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson lived a rather simple life, but his beliefs shone through his actions and words. Thomas Jefferson deeply believes in hard work. If you strive to succeed, you are worth just as much a the wealthy. Everyone should succeed and receive the same chances and representation. no one person has special privileges. This philosophy is still evident today, some would say its the american way. Equality is the key to sustaining a lively country. This key opens the door to freedom, liberty, and prosperity in this great nation. Jefferson represents the people, which is why he favored a strong State Government and a weak National Government. He prefers a more Democratic government, he believed in a "Wise and frugal Government which shall restrain men from injuring one another". To influence Central Government he reduced government employees and lowered National Debts. Interpreting the constitution strictly, Thomas Jefferson runs the country for the people
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

While I side with Hamilton, I do believe in the value of hard work and find Hamilton's belief in well born and rich only to be limiting.A little more information of how Jefferson impacted this country would have helped.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

“The nation will find it very hard to look up to the leaders who are keeping their ears to the ground.”-Sir Winston Churchill. Alexander Hamilton had great visions, but did he ask the people? Thomas Jefferson focused on equality for everyone, and surrounded himself with all kinds of people. Generosity was top priority for Thomas Jefferson. He tried to help everyone he could, and would sacrifice so much for the greater good of others, like most people in society today.. Alexander wasn't even close to the current ideals in society. Of course, everyone can get road rage and be unruly, but we end up all fair to each other. Hamilton despised the less fortunate; even though, keep in mind, he was poor at a time as well. So, who was the more generous one?  The freedoms we have today are because of good old Thomas Jefferson. When he wrote the Declaration of Independence, he wanted everybody to have equal and ideal rights. What did Hamilton want? A government modeled after Britain that gave no power to the states which would end up having no say! Think about it, if Hamilton got his way, he could have taken our power just like Britain (which is why we fought back)! Thomas Jefferson doubled our blooming country’s size from one of the world’s most powerful governments, not to mention for very cheap. You don’t hear about Hamilton’s achievements for America’s government while he was president. In my opinion, all he had were ideas that other people adopted.Hamilton wanted to bend America’s rights and rules with a broad interpretation of the Constitution! Jefferson actually led using what the ink on the paper by a strict interpretation to be clear with the people he would eventually rule. Hamilton thought things were “close enough”. My vote goes to Jefferson, and so should yours.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

I agree Zach that although Hamilton may have better ideas as far as the economy, Jefferson did leave a better impact
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

i agree with you on how thomas jefferson thought of everyone as equal no matter who they were.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

Zach, I agree that Jefferson left a bigger impact on our nation, and I really liked your quote at the beginning of your introduction.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

Though it was difficult to make a decision, I decided on Jefferson. Jefferson had better views on human rights, type of government, and voting restrictions. Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence and the Bill of Rights, two very important documents to our country. He set up our unalienable rights.Jefferson believed that the standards for voting should be lowered, such as letting blacks and women vote. Where Hamilton thought that the voting standards should be raised, so that only rich, property owning men could vote, even though he himself came from a poverty stricken home.Jefferson believed that we had unalienable rights, such as freedom of speech, freedom of the press etc. Thomas Jefferson also introduced the idea that all men are created equal no matter their race, gender, or social standing. Alexander Hamilton thought that some of the amendments in the Bill of Rights were unnecessary. Although, Jefferson didn't think a president was a good idea, because he believed it would lead to monarchy. He believed in a more democratic form of government. Hamilton wanted a a British form of government, however, the main reason for the American Revolution, was to be free from monarchs. Jefferson also had an amazing quality, which was not letting his political views get in the way of doing what was best for the country. This was proven during his presidency, when he orchestrated the Louisiana Purchase, which doubled the size of America. He believed in a strict interpretation of the constitution; however, it had no provision for the federal government to purchase land, but Jefferson knew the Louisiana Purchase was best for the country.Thomas Jefferson favored a strong state government, and he wanted the three branches of government we have today. He believed in the separation of church and state, as well as freedom of religion.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

For one, remember Jefferson wouldn't have been able to make the Louisiana Purchase without the creation of a National Debt, one of Hamilton's creations and I'm pretty sure Jefferson stood up for the rights of all men, not women. Unfortunately at this time there weren't any voices speaking up for gender equality.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

Carrie, although I agree with your argument, I also feel the need to point out that at the time, Jefferson's equal rights were for all white men, Hamilton's' were for all educated, property owning white men.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

yes I agree back then equality was a huge factor back then and it was one of the biggest issues
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

i also think Jefferson's ideas of human rights and equality was important for America.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

I don't agree with the fact that Jefferson wanted equality for all races. He didn't live by these standards. Jefferson owned slaves that he didn't treat very well.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

I agree that Jefferson had a better insight on human rights.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

You say that Thomas Jefferson believed that all men are equal. While this may have been true, if we were going by what he declared himself, this statement is highly hypocritical. If he supported freedom of slaves, and the abolition of slavery, then why did he own hundreds himself?Of course, from certain aspects it may be understandable that he lived in the South where work was needed, but if he wants support on his beliefs he must also practice them as well.However, I do believe in Jefferson's resolution in freedom of speech, religion, and unalienable rights.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson is a perfect match for America, he was a wealthy caring man. America is what it is now because of him he came from a wealthy family but he was always respectful to everybody no matter their color or money situation. He always stood up for his people he shaped America to what it is now. The opinion of everybody always mattered to him, he did not support racism, slavery, discrimination, etc. He is the written of the Declaration of Independence and religious freedom. The way he thought was always based on agriculture he wanted to have a natural, nature like life he cared about growing crops and distrusted special privilege. He did not support any part of the constitution he wanted a weak central government and a strong state government like a democratic government. He thought everybody was equal and always thought about the people in his country first and wanted to lower the voting qualifications. He always wanted to reduce the number of federal employees. He favored a strict interpretation of constitution and believed individual liberties must be protected by laws. And last he was a very responsible man because he thought of eliminating internal taxes and paying off national debts. That's why Thomas Jefferson is a great match with America.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

Who had the more enduring vision of United States, Thomas Jefferson or Alexander Hamilton? I believe that Thomas Jefferson left a better vision of the U.S. rather than Hamilton. Jefferson believed that individual rights needed to be protected by laws, that our government needs to be democratic, and that more people should be eligible to vote. I agree with all three of these statements.Individual rights were very important to Jefferson. He believed that your rights should be protected by laws because it was something this country was born from. If we didn't have individual rights that protected our voice or our opinion, then the people wouldn't be able to assemble in most cases, we wouldn't be able to practice their religion, print anything offensive against any leader, or speak out against any law. Without these things, our society wouldn't be able to function well. Since we have these rights, our lives have been much better than a life with no rights. Today we use these rights to practice any religion, print news about our government, have whistle blowers and assemble in public meetings. This impact that Thomas Jefferson made helped affect our country.Jefferson also believed in a strong democratic government. A democratic government is a government where the people choose their leaders. On the other hand, Alexander Hamilton believed we should have a government based of the British system. If we had the same Government as the British it might lead to unfair taxes like it did before, this why I agree with Jefferson. The British Government at the time wasn't the best type of Government; the central government was too strong. America wanted a government where the people had the power. When they were colonies, they had no say in their government. This reasoning makes me pick Jefferson’s way of government rather than Hamilton. Today, many other countries base their governments off of us. That’s how much of an influence our system of government was to the world and Jefferson supported it.Making more people eligible to vote was another thing that Jefferson wanted to do. At the time, only white land owning men were allowed to vote. What about the other people? In the U.S. presidential election of 1789 the amount of people that voted in the state was very small compared to the state population. In Delaware, out of a population of 59,000 people only 2,059 ballots were cast. This means that only 3% of the population voted. This data shows barely anyone voted and there should be at least the majority of the U.S eligible to vote. If the government wanted a better turn out of people then more people should be eligible to vote. Today the U.S Government lets any U.S citizen (of the proper age) vote which is the most of the people. Raising the voting standard, like what Hamilton wanted, would only make the numbers of the people that actually voted go down. All of these reasons make me support Jefferson’s approach to voting standards.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

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Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson is the right match for America. He believes in equality and he prefers a Democratic government. Alexander Hamilton believes the wealthy should Rule and Hamilton also wants a government based on The British. Jefferson wants to launch a democratic government, and that is what we are trying to do. Hamilton wants the wealthy people to control the country, he favors a strong central government. Jefferson favors a weak central government and a strong state government which is what we have today in America. Hamilton wants to establish and support a national bank. If the farmers get loans for their farms and then they aren't able to pay them back, then their is a good chance they could go into debt. Jefferson does not want to support a national bank, so we will have less chance to go into debt. Jefferson wants to eliminate all national debt and Hamilton wants to use debt to establish credit. Jefferson believes in equality and he believes everyone should get to vote. Jefferson has deep faith in farmers to help keep the economy going. Hamilton believes common people (such as farmers) act foolish and the rich and wealthy should run the country. Hamilton wants to raise the voting qualifications! Thats why Thomas Jefferson is better for the United States of America.Kaitlin Brooks 5th period
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

i loved that you mentioned both sides. i completely agree with you.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

I support Thomas Jefferson and his visions of the United States. He was a man of peace and wanted the world to live that way. I believe that he is the perfect match for The United States. Thomas Jefferson believed that the people of the world shouldn't be labeled by the clothes they wear or the jobs they have. Two different people can be so alike in many ways. He wanted all people, including slaves, to be equal. All created evenly. Jefferson trusted the people of America and valued their opinions. He wanted to lower the voting qualifications so everyone could have an equal vote on their choices. Another example of him being a true leader of America was that he preferred a more Democratic Government. In his eyes he saw a society where people have a say in what goes on. While Alexander Hamilton believed in making the American Government modeled on the British system. It might be an excellent system for him but, for Jefferson it wasn't. America and the British went through a huge war so why should we model our Government after them when they despised us for wanting our freedom. Finally, Thomas Jefferson believed that individual rights have to be protected by the laws. He wanted every citizen to be protected by their Bill Of Rights since that's the reason they were made in the first place. Why would you create a Bill Of Rights if the people can't be protected by them? Everyone is their own person and multiple choices in many situations. I imagine Thomas Jefferson being the best pick for The Untied States.