azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Healthcare - Right Or Privilege
Side: I have a right to healthcare

I think the concept of Rights probably derived from moral language such as a person defending their position in a fight by saying "I have the right of it". Eventually, "that's right" and "you're right" became "your Rights".It's interesting that you point out that Rights could have have derived from a resolved fight. You are suggesting that the link between morality and Rights is communication and an accord ( some sort of social contract ). Is that correct ? Natural Rights are those conditions that are necessary and proper to human survival and flourishing. We require life, liberty, property, etc. to survive and thrive. As such it is morally correct to uphold and defend these conditions, and to recognize that they are common to all people if they are common to any. Life, liberty, and property are conditions to survival. Logically, they are good. For the most part I agree. As well, I should because I am American. You then use the words "common" and "recognize" to link these rights to natural Rights. These are words that once again suggest that for rights (moral) to become Rights there needs communication and accord. Thus, everyone has them, This is where I don't understand. Unless every human being recognizes it as a right, how could everyone have the right to life, liberty and property ? Even if one believes it to be morally correct, some might not. Unless, there is a fight (as you described), and an accord, it cannot be a Right. Even by translating it in different languages, they won't mean the same. The simple language barrier makes it difficult for Rights to not be relative.
Debate: Healthcare - Right Or Privilege
Side: I have a right to healthcare

It's interesting that you point out that Rights could have have derived from a resolved fightRights that previously existed were not derived from, but illuminated by human conflict resolution.You are suggesting that the link between morality and Rights is communication and an accord ( some sort of social contract ). Is that correct ?Close. Morality and Rights are not linked by communication. Rights ARE morality made explicit. It’s not right that I murder you because it is your right to live. You then use the words "common" and "recognize" to link these rights to natural Rights. These are words that once again suggest that for rights (moral) to become Rights there needs communication and accordYour natural Rights are yours whether anyone names them or not. If you live alone in the woods, you have your right to your life. If you build a cabin, you have a right to your property. If someone comes along and burns down your cabin, takes your saw, or tries to kill you. They are breaching your rights. Even if no one ever says so. We make things explicit and call them Rights so that we have a standardized law upon which society can function with regularity. We communicate these Rights and create legal social contracts so that we society can function. The Rights were there before the naming of them, and before the Laws that are based upon them. Unless every human being recognizes it as a right, how could everyone have the right to life, liberty and property?Rights are based on the idea that morality has objective truth apart from subjective opinion. The person in the woods doesn’t think you have the Right to your saw, cabin, or life. He believes his ability to take it all from you gives him the Right to take it all from you. Nonetheless, his action is immoral. Your Rights persist despite a brutes failure to recognize them. Thus, you would be morally correct in defending yourself, another natural right.Even if one believes it to be morally correct, some might not.Lots of people think you don’t have the Rights that are naturally yours. If you encounter them, I recommend protecting yourself. You are Right to do so.Even by translating it in different languages, they won't mean the same. The simple language barrier makes it difficult for Rights to not be relative.All health humans have an understanding of morality. It’s an evolved trait. Even chimps have notions of property Rights. While different cultures talk about right and wrong in different ways, and have different standards by which they treat each other, everyone is capable of discussing what conduct is right and what conduct is wrong. You don’t have to say that people have a right to their life in order to convey that it is wrong to murder. Putting the human moral condition in terms of rights, is a highly effective way to indicate who has moral high ground. Though it may not be the only way to discuss it, the fact of the high ground is unchanged.
Debate: Healthcare - Right Or Privilege
Side: I have a right to healthcare

Don't all Americans have the right to Life , Liberty and Property ? Be careful now as to your answer !
Debate: Healthcare - Right Or Privilege
Side: Healthcare is a privilege.

Healthcare is a privilege. The left will ball and squall, but it is. No one is obligated to help you for free on their dime and their time. And if you refuse to work, then why are you owed anything?
Debate: Healthcare - Right Or Privilege
Side: I have a right to healthcare

Why is healthcare a privilege in this country and not in Australia, Germany, England, Canada and all the other western countries like ours and some not like ours, like Russia? Why do you even think about this as mine and there's.? Why not everyone have healthcare as provided by and supported by the government, like the entire world does? Are you blind or ignorant to the way the world pays for healthcare or are you one of these patriots who thinks we do everything better than the entire world and we don't listen to anybody arrogant? C'mon man. Make sense with your damn argument
Debate: Healthcare - Right Or Privilege
Side: Healthcare is a privilege.

1)People with money from those countries come here for healthcare. There's a reason...2)In those countries you can wait weeks or months to even be seen. The doctor to patient ratio is monumental. 3)If you have an emergency ER has to help you in the U.S.4)If you are poor or disabled, get on medicare/medicaid.
Debate: Healthcare - Right Or Privilege
Side: Healthcare is a privilege.

Why not everyone have healthcare as provided by and supported by the government, like the entire world does?The "rest of the world's" healthcare systems let them die based on averages. Or did you mean "like the rest of certain parts of the world"?
Debate: Healthcare - Right Or Privilege
Side: Healthcare is a privilege.

Are you blind or ignorant to the way the world pays for healthcare or are you one of these patriots who thinks we do everything better than the entire world and we don't listen to anybody arrogant1)The quality of healthcare would collapse due to an influx of customers vs doctors. You think it's slow now? If it takes a month in Cuba, how long do you imagine it would take in a country our size? There are people who died waiting to be seen by a doctor, and that's with the amount of patients we have now. 2)You give the world government s full control of medicine, we have to do as told in every other area of life, or we don't get our medicine. It's tyranical government leverage against the people.3)If you socialize the medical system, our piss poor number of doctors would crumble. Are you going to medical school, risking malpractice suits, and doing surgery on people for average wages? It's hard to get people to be doctors already with high capitalistic salaries. Or was your plan to go full tyrany and make people be doctors like it or not?
Debate: Healthcare - Right Or Privilege
Side: Healthcare is a privilege.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sallypipes/ 2011/12/19/the-ugly-realities-of-socialized-medicine-are-not-going-away-3/
Debate: Healthcare - Right Or Privilege
Side: Healthcare is a privilege.

There is no doubt that healthcare is a privilege. we wouldn't be talking about it today if we weren't for our government to hear out to our opinions. They make the decision at the end of the day.. At the same time, helping those who need it, and can't afford it, out of compassion and empathy, is completely different. You can't make it a right, but can always ask for help.
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Free Health Care

As a citizen of Canada, I have access to free health-care. Almost everyone in this country agrees with free health-care. I realize in America, things are different with Obama-care and what not. However, I think that it is the responsibility of the government to provide well being to its tax-payers.
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Pay to Live

However, I think that it is the responsibility of the government to provide well being to its tax-payers.For the government to provide this service the tax-payers have to pay more. Its not free, so in the end, some will end up getting stuck with the bill."The more the government serves the people, the more the people must serve the government"
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Free Health Care

That is your opinion. I believe the government is useful for many things. Health-care is one of them. It is a sad day when private companies make massive amounts of money of the health problems of others. Yes there will be more tax, but in the long run, it's cheaper, and the moral thing to do.
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Pay to Live

That is your opinion.Actually, its not my opinion, its just a fact. No commodity is actually free someone always has to pay for it. Also, the government serves you the more you have to serve it.I believe the government is useful for many things. Health-care is one of them. It is a sad day when private companies make massive amounts of money of the health problems of othersIts a sad day when government monopolizes healthcare so that there is only one place you can go to.Yes there will be more tax, but in the long run, it's cheaper, and the moral thing to do.Its not cheaper, you're paying for the same thing, except you have to remember, government workers get many more benefits and any money that goes to government is open to corruption.Its not moral to force people to buy and pay for something regardless of if they want it or not.
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Free Health Care

It's is not something they want or don't want, it's something they NEED. Health-care is a basic human necessity. And what's wrong with having a collective body support each-other? Everyone must pay their share for the collective good. And it is not ''buying'' it's paying taxes; you do not chose where your tax dollars go.
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Pay to Live

It's is not something they want or don't want, it's something they NEED. Health-care is a basic human necessity.In your opinion it is.And what's wrong with having a collective body support each-other?Well 1st off it is immoral to force people to pay for your things, regardless of if you need them or not. Secondly, it is very inefficient to do this through government, any money that goes to the government is open to political corruption, government waste, over-sized government salaries, redundancy, paperwork, special interests, and other factors. Do what I do, donate time and money to charity.Everyone must pay their share for the collective good. And it is not ''buying'' it's paying taxes; you do not chose where your tax dollars go.It is buying. The government takes money from someone to pay for someone else's stuff, so whoever they took the money from is buying that product or service, not the government. Just because you don't choose where your tax dollars go to does not change anything.
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Free Health Care

What happened before there was Medicare in Canada? People either went on the dole, or lived with relatives who supported them. There were actually places called "poor houses" or "county homes" where the poor and elderly lived. There were soup kitchens and long lines. People who lived there could not afford health-care, so they went without. So because you want private Medicare you would be denying millions of citizens with their basic right to good health, just because they cannot pay their bills. This is something that should NEVER HAPPEN IN A DEVELOPED COUNTRY.
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Pay to Live

By not wanting a government monopoly and intrusion on my health I am not violating anyone else's right. When someone says "pay for my stuff or I'll have the IRS come down here and threaten you" then you are violating my rights. And the government pointing guns at me, forcing me to pay for other peoples stuff so that they can get re-elected on the whole "I care about the people (just not the ones who pay more taxes)" is something that should never happen in a developed country.
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Free Health Care

What about those who cannot afford? You would be denying them their basic rights to satisfy your petty political idea. This cannot be accepted in a democracy.
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Pay to Live

What about those who cannot afford? You would be denying them their basic rights to satisfy your petty political idea.A right to freedom of speech imposes a cost on no one, a right to healthcare imposes a very large cost on people. If someone can't afford something you don't force everyone else to get it for them, especially through government which is very inefficient.This cannot be accepted in a democracy.Democracy dies when people start voting themselves a share of the treasury.
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Free Health Care

You are not having health-care imposed on you. If there is free health-care for all, then you can leave the country and go to Bhutan or some other less developed country. And when people vote themselves part of the treasury, democracy does die. But putting some tax dollars towards health care instead of nuclear weapons makes sense. I am having a military imposed on my by your logic. In the US, only a fraction of the budget goes to Obama-care, in relation to the military, or corporate bailouts.
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Pay to Live

You are not having health-care imposed on you. If there is free health-care for allActually I am, The cost is being imposed on me regardless of if I want or need the service. If I don't want to get government health care and pay for everyone's as well, then I shouldn't be forced to.  then you can leave the country and go to Bhutan or some other less developed country.Right after you move to North Korea.And when people vote themselves part of the treasury, democracy does die. But putting some tax dollars towards health care instead of nuclear weapons makes sense.Actually, it makes no sense. Health care is EXTREMELY expensive and is inefficient when run by government, every dollar you give them is open to corruption and a good portion of it will go their over bloated government salaries, benefits and pensions. It would be better to just let the market run it and give people a choice.Also, nuclear weapons ensure mutual destruction, in other words, our enemies will think twice about nuking us if they know they will get nuked back. I am having a military imposed on my by your logic. In the US, only a fraction of the budget goes to Obama-care, in relation to the military, or corporate bailouts.Military makes up 20% of the budget, Military also includes all veterans and service benefits and foreign aid. Actually, entitlements such as Social Security, Medicare and Medicade make up 2/3rds of the budget. If you cut everything except for Social Programs and the interest on the debt you could not balance the budget.As for a military being imposed on you, yes, there is. However, the cost of the military budget pretty much matches the corporate income tax and a normal military, hell, even OUR military without all the foreign aid and wars would cost almost nothing to run. In essence, its an extremely small cost, where as a universal health care provider would be an enormous fee (and no Obamacare is not a universal provider, its just a public option aka: the government getting its foot in the door)
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Pay to Live

http://www.globalissues.org/article/75/world-military-spending It is obvious to anyone with financial experience that the US military is VERY expensive. The cost is about 500 bn dollars annually. This is a fatuous waste of money. Also, it is apparent that you have said NOTHING for those who cannot afford health-care. You would leave them to wither away. Health-care is not as expensive as the military, and we need it. ENOUGH SAID.
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Pay to Live

It is obvious to anyone with financial experience that the US military is VERY expensive. The cost is about 500 bn dollars annually. This is a fatuous waste of money.Again, a large portion is veterans benefits, foreign aid and war time costs. Cut war time costs and foreign aid and its not as high. Also, it is apparent that you have said NOTHING for those who cannot afford health-care. You would leave them to wither away.If they can't afford it, then that is their problem, just because they can't have it doesn't mean that it is their right to force other to pay for it. Also, government is much less efficient that private charities and the market. Also, government take over of these programs forces people to pay for them an dose them, health care is personal and the government should not be involved in our personal lives. http://www.capitalisminstitute.org/private-charity-infographic/ Health-care is not as expensive as the military, and we need it. ENOUGH SAID.No it is not, once you add Obamacare on to the budget it will rise more. http://www.learnliberty.org/videos/what-can-we-cut-balance-budget
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Pay to Live

Then it is there problem? That is why the US is in such a mess. Because of people like you who believe that they are better than everybody else. When society as a whole is healthy and happy, then everyone benefits more than if society is squabbling and un-healthy. And capitalism institute? Really, that's just pure propaganda. I may as well send you a link to Marxists.org.
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Pay to Live

Then it is there problem? That is why the US is in such a mess. Because of people like you who believe that they are better than everybody else. When society as a whole is healthy and happy, then everyone benefits more than if society is squabbling and un-healthyI don't believe I'm better than anyone else, we just believe that people being forced to pay for someone else's health care is wrong. I never said I was better than anyone else I just told you to keep your hands off of my money. Social programs are the oldest trick in the book, the government takes money from one person quietly, keeps some for themselves and then gives whats left to someone else flamboyantly.Its not about who is better, its about people getting angry at people like you who feel they are entitle to someone else's money.PS: Still never addressed the fact that cutting 100% of defense spending still wouldn't fix the budget crisis.
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Free Health Care

I never said cutting 100% of the defense budget would solve the problem, but perhaps instead of spending 500 billion dollars on warmongering, perhaps the government could spend that money helping its citizens.
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Pay to Live

Also, that 500 billion dollars does not largely go to veteran benefits. QED:http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2008/02/whats_really_in_the_us_military_budget.html
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Free Health Care

Never said it largely went to veterans benefits, I just said that a good amount of the military budget is foreign aid, veterans benefits and the war effort. If you ended the wars and cut foreign aid the military budget would go down.
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Pay to Live

I doubt the budget would go down. I thought you were a Libertarian? The US military industrial complex would never let the budget go down.
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Pay to Live

I am a libertarian, if you ended the wars and cut all foreign aid the budget would go down. As for the military industrial complex, if people were actually some what informed about what goes on we could easily elect someone who would end the wars.
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Free Health Care

Yes, on this point, you are correct. People need to be informed and elect someone who is not same old same old.
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Free Health Care

Also, most of this 500 billion dollars does not go to veterans.QED: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/war_stories/2008/02/whats_really_in_the_us_military_budget.html
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Pay to Live

I never said most of it goes to veterans benefits, i said "a large portion is veterans benefits, foreign aid and war time costs."
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Pay to Live

By that logic, why can people who want "free" health-care leave and go to canada where is already established?
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Free Health Care

If Americans want free Health-care, they could move to Canada, but they should be able to have equal opportunities in their home country. Also, not everyone can affair to move internationally.
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Pay to Live

It's is not something they want or don't want, it's something they NEED. Health-care is a basic human necessity. Need is not a valid claim on the resources of others.And what's wrong with having a collective body support each-other?Nothing, so long as it is voluntary.Everyone must pay their share for the collective good.What is it that those who are net consumers of resources "pay", as their "fair share"?Yes there will be more tax, but in the long run, it's cheaper, No, it won't be cheaper (government programs never are), both because there is less competition for the money and because government makes political decisions on economic matters, not economic decisions.and the moral thing to do.Is it the function of government to enforce an active morality?What if they were to deem that homosexuality were immoral, and punish it? or mandatory, and enforce it?What if they were to decide that wearing makeup were immoral?To give government the authority to enforce a morality, is to give them the authority to enforce a morality that you disagree with.
Debate: Health Care Should Be Free
Side: Free Health Care

You claim that it will not save money if universal health-care is instated? However do you realize that about 2/3rds of US bankruptcies are due to unpaid medical bills? Do you realize what that number of bankruptcies does to the economy? It is severely detrimental. This cannot be argued. Also, I'm sure that you have private coverage, but for millions of people who do not have private coverage, they must go without. Should we ignore our responsibilities and leave these people to go bankrupt, or ignore their health problems? The answer is NO. No one should be left behind. Countries do better when everyone is happy and healthy. Furthermore, if this is not convincing enough, take a look at any country with a successful universal health-care system. Do you see these problems associated with the cost on society that you claim? No, you do not. And if you want to talk about un-fair burdens on the tax-payer, let us take a look at the all consuming American Military Industrial Complex. Enough said