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Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

So a husband and wife that don't want children can never have sex.... Contraceptives fail. So two people who don't want children can not get married - lack of sex is a slam dunk claim for divorce or annulment. You are required to fulfill your marital duties or your partner can divorce you in almost every state. In addition a healthy sex life is cited by almost all marriage councilors as vital to maintaining a healthy marriage. So how would a childless (by choice) couple be acting irresponsibly? In addition what is the difference to you?Either they are going to have sex and and abortion (if they get pregnant), or they are going to abstain so as not to take the risk of getting pregnant if abortion is made illegal. Guess what - either way, no child is ever born. That couple has decided not to bring a child into this world under any circumstances. Personally I don't think they should have to go their whole lives without having sex.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

They can have sex, but they must be prepared to deal with the result of it. Since when was sex the only thing that kept together a marriage? The purpose of marriage is to start a family, which includes supporting each other in BOTH good times and BAD. If you aren't trying to start a family then GTFO :)A childless couple isn't acting irresponsibly if they are prepared to take responsibility if they have sex.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

Again a wonderful post animegirl. People especially women do not want to take responsiblity for their actions...it's always someone elses fault.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

I support what you say...but I would add this....when a child is concieved...there is nothing potential about it. It is already a living human being.And I would ask you to think about the rape and incest clause in your position.Let me ask you this.........if you believe a human life starts at conception, how is death right for even a child of rape? If you walked into a nursery full of babies and the nurse told you that one out of the twentys mother was raped...would you be able to pick that child out? Life is life and although rape is a violent act...so is abortion. So rape is the first wrong....and then on top of that abortion is another. The woman can live with two crimes. That is the same as incest. If you are pro life that means you value ALL LIFE, not just some.If you are pro-choice and think that abortion should be legal even though you think its gruesome and wrong.....then you are not pro-life. Being pro-life is being against abortion period...unless the woman is dying on the table...and then in most cases both can be saved.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

Abortion in general is wrong in the sense of life being erased. It may be less so if it's for a valid reason like health. But I think that abortions made for more reasons than that is the result of selfishness usually...
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

Abortion:When life becomes subjective, and a killing an option. Since when is it acceptable for people say that because it's not 'quite human' we can just do whatever the heck we want with it?The logic of something needing to PROVE that it has a right to live is just sick. Why is it that we get to define when it's okay to exterminate something?Why is it okay to kill an unborn child, period? It might be understandable in some situations, but it doesn't make the choice RIGHT.I LOVE how a person can go to jail for killing their household pets, but then it's suddenly perfectly okay to kill an unborn child because it hasn't met someone's standards of "It deserves to livee~"I can support a person's decision on the matter when it is completely necessary, but all the people who think abortion is all right and good is just sick :/
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

Omgosh....what a wonderful and refreshing post. Not used to seeing ones like yours....most people here are pro-abortion and do not value all life. What you said about killing and cruelty to pets is right on. Hollywood especially will go out of its way to bash people for this...then be first in line to support killing human beings. One answer for them to just be promiscuous.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

I'd say the only exception to this immoral act is if someone gets raped and impregnated.Otherwise, it's straight murder.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

Abortion is taking the life of a living human being. We see society up in arms about animal rights and animal abuse. Isn't abortion really the worst case of child abuse you can think of? Every abortionists task is to dismember, kill in any way possible...the living human child in the womb. Death is the only goal. The fetus might be small but nevertheless science says it is human and it is alive. What is it called when you take someones life without their permission? Isn't this murder? If you defend the womans choice to kill saying it is her choice....then should you enslave her by putting restrictions on when the killing takes place? Thus late term abortions should be legal if you are pro-abortion. When does her right to body sovereignty end? I am all for the right of women to choose but when that choice kills another living human being that right should not exist. The living human growing inside her body is not part of her. It has its own bodily systems, its own DNA, fingerprints etc.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

Murder is a legal definition. It is the unlawful killing of another human being. Thus Abortion is not Murder. Shooting a burglar is "taking someone's life without permission" however that is not murder either. The right to bodily sovereignty should be absolute. What right is more basic that control over our own body. You have the right not have an operation, or medical care or drugs. You also have the right not to forcible donate blood, or organs, or risk your life to save another. All pregnancy carries risks to life and health, the fetus uses the mother's blood and organs. She has a right to stop their use. Can she abort in the 9th month? No, but she should have the right to evict. She has control of HER body, not the fetuses.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

It's ironic that a woman can hire someone to kill her unborn, but should she do it herself, be charged with a crime. Why is this? The fetus was once recognized as a person in our country but after 1973 it lost its identity and was put up on the chopping block, the bullseye was placed on every unborn fetus's forehead. You talk about bodily sovereignty....I would assume you mean the right for a woman to abort at any time during the pregnancy since she certainly keeps her own body throughout the term. This means any woman because she has sole ownership of her body can decide what to do with it, even kill in the ninth month. Am I right? Is that what you are saying?Pregnancy is not dangerous to 99% of those doing it. Less than 1% of ALL WOMEN getting abortions do it because of health issues. And in most case both mother and baby can be saved. So most woman abort because of social issues. Having a baby is a natural thing to do. Many women do not even go to doctors to be watched and have no problems at all. So don't make the statement that it carries risks above and beyond what pregnancy implies. How many woman die a year in childbirth compared to those who have successful pregnancies? Not many.You are saying two things in your statement. She owns her body, but she doesn't. Can she abort in the 9th month? NO..........but she should have the right to abort. Abortion kills. If that is what she wants to do, to kill it even in the ninth month, what right do you have then based on what you have said here.....to deny her the right?
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

Funny that for hundreds of years abortion was considered murder. Even today if a woman kills or tries to kill her unborn she can be tried. And if someone else kills or tries, they can be prosecuted and go to prison. Scott Peterson...killed that which you say is not a person that deserved to live. You talk about body sovereignty......then you cant ever take it away...which means you are for allowing late term abortions. You certainly would not want to enslave the woman carrying a nine month old unborn that she decided to kill at the last minute. Right?
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

It is neither right nor wrong. I agree that the latest time to have an abortion should be reduced. In the UK it currently stands at 24 weeks, which is also an age a baby can survive. I think it's dependent on the situation of the pregnancy. If the child's going to be brought up into a life of poverty, abuse and just be bloody miserable well what kind of an existence is that? I also agree when a child has severe deformities or disabilities or an instance or rape (because of religion raped children as young as 7 have had to give birth which is no life for the baby or the mother). Even discounting these things it's still a woman's choice.At what point do you consider it to be killing a human life can I ask? Is it once an embryo has implanted or earlier (contraception)?My main concern with anti-abortionists is that they don't consider the problem of over-populating. If no one had an abortion could you imagine all the extra people there would be populating the planet? We would be in a massive state of poverty, much more drastic than we see now.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

Do you actually read anything anyone types? I said babies as young as 22 weeks have survived hence I think they need to lower the gestation period. without intervention no baby could survive birth without helpSeriously? Woman have been giving birth on their own for thousands of years. People still do. Gone are the days in America and the UK where you would crouch down in a field and push you're little sprite out. But more and more woman are opting for a natural intervention free home birth. And that's JUST in developed countries. In poorer countries they generally just get on with it.Who are you to say...that poverty would be that childs life?I'm not, the mother of the child is. And if she can't feed herself let alone provide for a child and she decides to abort that's her choice and perhaps a sensible one.You have no right to tell someone that they dont have a right to live. Funny your saying that....and you were born. LOL Is your life perfect?When did I say no one has a right to live? You're acting like I perform abortions on a daily basis. I said it's up to a mother if she wants to abort her child, I didn't say it's up to me.You know Hitler had the same idea.........kill people who are undesirable....the Jew, the black the person of faith....dredges on societyAre you seriously comparing me to the Nazi that is Hitler? Really? Because I support a woman's choice to abort. You mad? You seem it.Is that where you came up with the idea? Lets kill unborns because they MIGHT end up getting a divorce....lets kill them because they MIGHT be obese, they MIGHT end up being a drunk or abused, MIGHT become a criminal, MIGHT, MIGHT, MIGHT........... You would have aborted Oprah...she was born into poverty. Can we just make it perfectly clear that I do not control worldwide abortion. Nor am I responsible for abortion. Nor do I make a choice for anyone to abort. Why are you blaming me for every abortion a woman decides to have because I believe she has the right to that choice? You have read way too much into a small paragraph I wrote. I simply gave reasons why a woman might choose to abort and supported that. I don't remember saying "HEY YOU THERE! ABORT YOUR BABY IT MIGHT BE FAT!".What makes you think that you have the right to decide for another human being whether he lives or dies?What? I've never made a choice for anyone to live or die or wanted/had the right.It is a scientific fact that the sperm in a male is human, t is a fact that the eggs in a female is humanDoes that mean if someone masturbates they are aborting a human life? Does that mean when a woman menstruates she is aborting a human life? They are not human until they meet, implant and develop. I could go on and on and on showing you proof about when life startsStop talking to me about conception, I've had a child I know how it works.What is the goal of every abortionist?To do what they feel is right for them and their unborn child.Let me ask you a question now. I have contraceptive coil in to stop me from getting pregnant. Do you think I am aborting human life?
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

I am aware that your arguments were for someone else. However, I have a couple remarks about your arguments that I would like to share with you…Who are you to say...that poverty would be that childs life? Look at the poor people you would have exterminated in order to save them from a life you find pathetic. There are many poor people who are happy. What about the victims of rape? Should young girls risk their own lives for something they did not even consent to? What makes you think that you have the right to decide for another human being whether he lives or dies? Death penalty gives us the right to decide whether someone dies or lives. At war, soldiers constantly decide whether innocent enemy soldiers and civilians should live or die. So, human beings are given the right to kill others.I could go on and on and on showing you proof about when life starts...but would it really matter or affect your views on abortion? You did not state any proof. You only quoted doctors who agree with you. I have one last question: Do the rights of an embryo outweigh the rights of woman?
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

Ok what about women who are raped? This is a violent act for sure. But are two acts of violence better than one? I think abortion is a a violent way to kill a living human being. It is not given a sedative...it is ripped, burned and dismembered while the heart beats, when it quite possibly is moving. So how is the act of rape the new living childs fault? If you walked into a nursery in a hospital and the nurse told you that one out of the ten babies theres mother was raped...do you think you could pick it out? No....it has just as much right to life as the child whose mother was not raped. The mother who was raped not only will remember the rape, but the day she...took it upon herself to kill another living person. So if you value life........you value all life and you give it a chance. You bring up the death penalty.....I am not pro-death penalty...I do believe in prison however...and not prisons with television, internet, and work out rooms. I did give proof some of the top doctors around the world, researchers...I mean what more do you want? Many of these doctors testified in front of the Senate on when life begins. And your last question.....I believe that women know when they have sex they might become pregnant, even if they take precautions. I believe that when a life is started...that that life should be allowed to be born. Nine months is not that long when you know it can save another living persons life. There is always adoption. What is nine months...compared to killing? This is about doing what is right, not only for the woman but the life growing inside her...that she help start. I do not believe woman should have the right to kill. You however believe that she does, because IT IS HER BODY. And that right should not be taken away or controlled by anyone else. So let me ask you this......If the woman wanted to abort in the ninth month, eighth month this would and should be her right.....you certainly would not want her to be enslaved by a baby even in late term........right? You cant have it both ways.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

If someone says they are pro-choice even though they would never get one themselves...that is the same as being pro-abortion, because to the life in the womb, it makes a lot of difference how someone views THEIR LIFE.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: abortion is wrong

it is imoral because it kills a person and every man is created equal also if the mother is a person who would actually be so irresponible as to have unprotected sex when she doesnt want a child then she should have to bear that punishment and should be able to eventually give her child up to adoption
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is wrong

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Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is wrong

Medical science says life starts at conception. How then can hiring a hit on a new human life be a good thing? I work with many people who do not have faith in God and believe that abortion is immoral...so I believe that one need not believe in God to know abortion is wrong. I happen to believe there is a God and that He is the author of life, that life is sacred. How then from both angles could abortion be a good thing?
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

Thats total BS, there is no current scientific evidence that points to life beginning at conception, only "christian scientists" argue this based on their own personal convictions. Btw, we live in a secular society, you may believe in your God, but not everyone does and therefore should not be dictated to live their life based on your personal definition of morality. Im an atheist and I too find abortion awful. But that shouldn't mean that my personal opinion should dictate over a woman's ownership of her own body.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is wrong

You are avoiding my question.No God....the choice of the woman....no restrictions.....Yes or no....you believe abortion should be allowed throughout the entire nine months....because it is the woman's choice, her body?
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is wrong

Can't wait to hear your reply...the Jackster. Hoping you are investigating some of the information I gave.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is wrong

My mum wanted to abort me but my dad talked her out of it.I don't think there is any way to say that it is morally right. Ending a life before it begins.But then again humans have sex for fun, unwanted pregnancies are inevitable. There is no way to stop this from happening and there will always be women out there whom could not raise a child very well.I fell pregnant through a very casual encounter at the age of 18 and the kept the baby. It just didn't feel right to kill something that was depending on me for life.I've had friends who've had abortions and I know why they did it and I would never condemn them for it, but at base, abortion is very wrong.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is wrong

How can you even make the argument that abortion is moral? It's not, anybody who says otherwise is an idiot and I'm going to tell you why. I know a common pro-choice argument is simplify posing the question "what about in cases where the mother's life is in danger/rape/ incest etc.?" It is EXTREMELY flawed logic to look at all abortion cases through a scope that shows you only a minuscule percentage of abortion cases. Next, legality and morality are two completely different things; just because something is immoral doesn't necessarily mean it should be illegal (adultery). So there is no need to bring up how making abortion illegal doesn't significantly decrease the amount of abortions. Abortion raises many ethical issues. When is it not okay to abort a fetus? When there's a heart beat? When it's born? It makes no sense how something can be so disposable 5 minutes before birth, but valued as much as a human being after. What changed about the fetus in those 5 minutes? If a pregnant woman is killed the assailant can be charged with double homicide. If a fetus is so worthless and just a "pile of cells", then why is it valued just as much as a human life when it is wanted? Who is the mother to decide if the same fetus has no value, or infinite value? Is the fetus really part of the mother's body? When you see a pregnant woman, you don't say "how's your belly?", you say "how's your baby?" because the fetus is obviously different from the rest of the woman's body. Find one science textbook that labels a fetus as part of the basic female anatomy. Abortion also raises many ethical issues. What is an acceptable reason for having an abortion? If your child is retarded? Disabled? If your child is a girl? With further advances made constantly, what if soon we can find out a fetus's sexuality in the womb? Is it okay to abort a baby because they are gay? Where do you draw the line."I've noticed that everybody for abortion has already been born."- Ronald Reagan
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is wrong

How can you even make the argument that abortion is moral?Easily. A life of pain and torture is quite arguably worse than a swift and humane death. Forcing a baby into the world which the parents don't want will more than likely cause the child deep psychological issues, drug addiction, a lifetime of unhappiness and neglect, followed by an eventual suicide. And that's even doing you the favour of accepting your stupid notion that a fetus is the same thing as a person.
Debate: Abortion the defining Moral issue of our day
Side: Abortion is right

Take this hypothetical. A woman, her child and a doctor are out hiking in no mans land and they have an accident (a fall lets say). The child is injured. He needs a blood transfusion and the mother and child are the same type (the doctor is not). The doctor explains the risks to the mother - the child needs a lot of blood and he has no way to measure how much is being taken... there is a risk she will loose too much blood and die.She agreesHe hooks her up, so she is supporting the childs life. After 10 minutes she is starting to feel lightheaded, and gets scared. She decides she doesn't want to do this anymore - she has 2 other children at home that need her.Does she have the right to unhook herself? The child will surely die. Of course she does, it's legal, and nobody has ever tried to make it illegal. Even after agreeing, and being hooked up, she can change her mind. So if a women gets pregnant, and the fetus is hooked up to her, why does she have to stay hooked up? At some point between her and the fetus the umbilical is part of her body. Does she not have the right to disconnect it if she feels she is not up to going through with it?Why would a women be legally required to keep her fetus alive by allowing it access to her body, but has no legal requirement that she keep her child alive after it is born (even if there is 0 risk to her life)? A women has a right to not have her body used by someone else.