azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

I have two questions. Didn't Jesus pray to God, on multiple occasions? Then, he couldn't have been praying to himself, right?
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

Everyone prays to themselves. :)
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Er, no. Before I go to sleep, I do not utter, "Dear me, please grant me a long and healthy life, and bless my mother,..." etc. I do not pray to myself, nor do I pray to "Rocky" (myself also). I pray to God meaning the Almighty, I pray to the One who can make anything happen.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Jesus is THE God of the Bible? Proof: https://www.gotquestions.org/is-Jesus-God.html Answer: The Bible never records Jesus saying the precise words, “I am God.” That does not mean, however, that He did not proclaim that He is God. Take for example Jesus’ words in John 10:30, “I and the Father are one.” We need only to look at the Jews’ reaction to His statement to know He was claiming to be God. They tried to stone Him for this very reason: “You, a mere man, claim to be God” (John 10:33). The Jews understood exactly what Jesus was claiming—deity. When Jesus declared, “I and the Father are one,” He was saying that He and the Father are of one nature and essence. John 8:58 is another example. Jesus declared, “I tell you the truth … before Abraham was born, I am!” Jews who heard this statement responded by taking up stones to kill Him for blasphemy, as the Mosaic Law commanded (Leviticus 24:16). John reiterates the concept of Jesus’ deity: “The Word [Jesus] was God” and “the Word became flesh” (John 1:1, 14). These verses clearly indicate that Jesus is God in the flesh. Acts 20:28 tells us, “Be shepherds of the church of God, which he bought with his own blood.” Who bought the church with His own blood? Jesus Christ. And this same verse declares that God purchased His church with His own blood. Therefore, Jesus is God!Thomas the disciple declared concerning Jesus, “My Lord and my God” (John 20:28). Jesus does not correct him. Titus 2:13 encourages us to wait for the coming of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ (see also 2 Peter 1:1). In Hebrews 1:8, the Father declares of Jesus, “But about the Son he says, ‘Your throne, O God, will last forever and ever, and righteousness will be the scepter of your kingdom.’” The Father refers to Jesus as “O God,” indicating that Jesus is indeed God.In Revelation, an angel instructed the apostle John to only worship God (Revelation 19:10). Several times in Scripture Jesus receives worship (Matthew 2:11; 14:33; 28:9, 17; Luke 24:52; John 9:38). He never rebukes people for worshiping Him. If Jesus were not God, He would have told people to not worship Him, just as the angel in Revelation did. There are many other passages of Scripture that argue for Jesus’ deity.The most important reason that Jesus has to be God is that, if He is not God, His death would not have been sufficient to pay the penalty for the sins of the world (1 John 2:2). A created being, which Jesus would be if He were not God, could not pay the infinite penalty required for sin against an infinite God. Only God could pay such an infinite penalty. Only God could take on the sins of the world (2 Corinthians 5:21), die, and be resurrected, proving His victory over sin and death.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

jesus is a prophet. not a god. although in ancient polytheist greece, he would be considered a demigod, as his biological dad was god, and his biological mom was mary.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Well for one if god doesn't exist how can something be it? Secondly and lastly you wouldn't be able to tell because of all of the contradictions in the bible.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

in the bible it does say that God, Jesus, and The Holy Spirit are one.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Quote please.Numbers 23:19New International Version (NIV)God is not human, that he should lie, not a human being, that he should change his mind. Does he speak and then not act? Does he promise and not fulfill?
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

This debate has gone none sensical all of you fully depended on the these writings of which credibility is till a subject, as Dinesh D' Souza has said- "you cannot argue using anything personal"
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

The immutability of the divine counsel is the safety of the saints. No entreaties of our foes can move the heart of God away from us: we are his chosen, and we shall be so evermore. Every promise is yea and amen in Christ Jesus, and not one single word of the Lord shall ever fall to the ground. Men shift like quicksand, but the Lord is firm as a rock. 1Sa 15:29, Ps 89:35, Hab 2:3, Mal 3:6, Lu 21:33, Ro 11:29, Tit 1:2, Heb 6:18, Jas 1:17  1Ch 17:17, Mic 7:20
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

It didn't say that God coulden't become a man. Jesus never lied, never sinned and lived a flawless life.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

I have a comic book that says Superman can make the world spin backwards and we'll all go back in time.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

in The lord of the rings the say that Gandalf is a wizard.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

The trinity is pure human conjecture, a post-biblical creation by clergy designed to circumvent the problem of Jesus being a mortal. You will not find any mention of the trinity in the Bible.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

Yes Jesus is God. There are many Bible verse that say that Jesus is God. Let me give you some.John 10:30 "I and the Father are one.”John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.1- the one who is speaking here is not Jesus nor the God, but it is a third person, so it is not the word of God2- the verse here doesn't prove the divinity of Jesus, but it proves his creation by the word " be and it is ".
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

>"it proves his creation by the word" //Jesus is the Word, the Logos, of God.So when John says "In the beginning was the Word [Logos],(A) and the Word was with God,(B) and the Word was God." (NIV, John 1:1) he's saying that Jesus was there before creation and that Jesus was God.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

1- the one who is speaking here is not Jesus nor the God, but it is a third person, so it is not the word of God2-Jesus said 'And to my God and your God' [John 20-17]3-Bring me a verse in which Jesus (BPUH) said I am God worship me......
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

That in no way proves that Jesus is God to, what is wrong with loving Jesus before the foundation of the world? God has knowledge of all those he will create before they are even created, so yes God loved Jesus even before the world was made, so the fact that Jesus makes the statement before the world was is not very special. God loves all of his true believers before the world was, because he has foreknowledge of everything. Very interesting we see something similar to the case of Jeremiah.  Jeremiah 1: 4 Then the word of the LORD came unto me, saying, 5 Before I formed thee in the belly I knew thee; and before thou camest forth out of the womb I sanctified thee, and I ordained thee a prophet unto the nationsSo as we see God already knew Jeremiah before he even created him, and of course God loved him to, so God knew and loved Jeremiah before he even created him, and not only that, he already had a plan for him, to become a Prophet. So does that make Jeremiah God? No it doesn’t.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Something well over 75% of Americans believe that the Bible is either directly or indirectly the word of god. You've said it before and this just proves it: Christians need to start actually reading their scripture. But my point is mainly that it's often a base assumption with Christians that the Bible is the irrefutable, express word of god, so you're banging your head into a wall with point 1.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Let us look at John 10:30 "I (Jesus) and the Father are One." This verse is severely misunderstood and is taken out of context, because beginning at verse John 10:23 we read (in the context of 10:30) about Jesus talking to the Jews. In verse John 10:28-30, talking about his followers as his sheep, he states: "...Neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father who gave them me, is greater than all, and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and the Father are One."These verses prove only that Jesus and the Father are one in that no man can pluck the sheep out of either's hand. It does not at all state that Jesus is God's equal in everything. In fact the words of Jesus, " My Father, who gave them me is Greater than ALL...," in John 10:29 completely negates this claim, otherwise we are left with a contradiction just a sentence apart. All includes everyone even Jesus.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Of the verse in question, "I and the Father are One" in (John 10:30), we also need to take note of the verses following the 30th verse in the text. In those verses, the Jews accuse Jesus falsely of claiming to be God by these words. He however replies, proving their accusation wrong by their own text: "The Jews answered him saying,'For a good work we stone thee not, but for blasphemy, and because that thou being a man, makest thyself a God '" (John 10:33). Jesus replies to this accusation saying: "Jesus answered them, 'Is it not written in your Law, "I said ye are gods. If He can call them gods, unto whom the word of God came, say ye of him whom the Father hath sanctified and sent into the world, "Thou blasphemeth," because I said I am the son of God?'" (John 10:34-36).Let us look at Acts 2:22 "O you men of Israel, hear these words: Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved of God among you..." Peter in the Book of Acts testifies about Jesus. Jesus thus even to his disciples, as to early Christians, not poisoned by Pauline doctrine, was a man, not a God.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

Yeah, but did you missed the part about Peter being filled with the Holy Spirit? Or are you going to pick and choose what you want?
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.1-Christians claim that since the predicted Prophet's name (Jesus) will be called "Mighty God" in Isaiah 9:6-7, then therefore, he must be GOD Almighty Himself.Let us read the Verses: "For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given, and the government shall be upon his shoulder; and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, Mighty God (EL Gibor), The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Of the increase of his government and peace there shall be no end, upon the throne of David, and upon his kingdom, to order it, and to establish it with justice and righteousness from hence forth even forever. The zeal of the Lord of hosts will perform this. (Isaiah 9:6-7)"It is quite unfortunate that in the old Jewish culture, people used to be named "Godly" names. This is quite misleading and deceiving to Christians when they try to define the deity of Jesus.Psalm 82:6 "I said, 'You are "gods" (Elohim; plural to El); you are all sons of the Most High.' " "gods" here in Hebrew is "Elohim", which is plural of "EL". It is the same exact thing as "EL" used for Jesus in Isaiah 9:6, since "gods" is a combination of several "EL"s. And as clearly shown here, for someone to be called "god" or "God" in the Bible it wouldn't make him GOD Almighty Himself, the LORD or Jehovah. I also want to point out that any "Son of GOD" in the Bible is a "god" or "God".2- the one who is speaking here is not Jesus nor the God, but it is a third person, so it is not the word of God
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Jesus is God. There are many Bible verse that say that Jesus is God.That is circular logic.What you are implying:-The bible is trueWhy?-Because it is the word of god.How do we know that?-Because the bible says so. That invalidates all your herpa-derp, here's a quote "facts."
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

... I'm sorry.Did you just reply to an argument that using the Bible as a source is a circular argument with a quote from that very Bible?Holy shit you did.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

We know the Bible is the word of God because it is true. It is historically and prophetically true. Nothing in the world makes sense other than the Biblical world and life view. It is not circular logic to say the Bible is the word of God, it is not only because the Bible says it's God's word that we believe it is God's word. You are presenting a logical fallacy ignoring the history and complete explanation of life and it's purpose in God's Word. If you are ignorant of history and think there is no such thing as truth, then you will always believe you are better than God until you wake up in Hell with second thoughts
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

This is only a valid argument if the Bible is to believed and there's no evidence it should be. There are plenty of other ancient texts that claim another so-and-so is god, why should the Bible be true and not them?
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

Your willful ignorance does not prove evidence of God's Word is lacking.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

John 10:30 could be referring to a connection and relationship between the father and son. In this sense anyone could say "I and the father are one." I can see how it can be confused to mean Jesus and the Father is the same thing, but I don't think that would be an accurate interpretation. This is all of course assuming that what Jesus actually said was accurate to what was written down almost 75-200 years after he said it.John 1:14 doesn't show a good example of how Jesus and God are the same thing.Isaiah 9:6 also doesn't show a good example of how Jesus and God is the same thing. At any rate, one would have to prove that what was said in Isaiah is an actual prophecy and that that prophecy refers to Jesus. This would have to be done before anyone could claim that it is evidence about Jesus’ divinity.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

The idea that god and Jesus and, indeed, the holy spirit, are one is a post-Biblical manmade conjecture, designed to circumvent Jesus' relative uselessness to the church as a mere mortal and designed, in my mind, to be completely impossible to understand and explain, which explains why it can find support in equally insane scripture and explains why it has been embraced so wholeheartedly by people who think that "magic" is a good blanket explanation for the state of the world today.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Also let us look at verse John 17:20-22 "That the ALL may be made ONE. Like thou Father art in me, I in thee, that they may be ONE in us. I inthem, they in me, that they may be perfect in ONE". In this verse, the same word ONE used, the Greek, HEN is used, not only to describe Jesus and the Father but to describe Jesus, the Father and eleven of the twelve disciples of Jesus. So here if that implies equality, we have a unique case of 13 Gods.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

1- Jerusalem was called "The LORD our Righteousness". "In those days Judah will be saved and Jerusalem will live in safety. This is the name by which it will be called: The LORD Our Righteousness (Yahweh tsidkenû).' (From the NIV Bible, Jeremiah 33:16)"2- Abraham called a mountain "The LORD will Provide" (Yahweh Jireh). "So Abraham called that place The LORD Will Provide (Yahweh Jireh). And to this day it is said, "On the mountain of the LORD it will be provided. (From the NIV Bible, Genesis 22:14)"3- Ezekiel means "Strong God". It also means "Yahweh is Strong God".4- Elijah. This name is short for EliJehovah or "Eli Yahweh". Eli means my GOD, and Yahweh is the name and title of GOD Almighty in the Bible. Does "Eli Yahweh" or Elijah mean that the person is Jehovah Himself?5- Israel means "Challenge God", "he struggles with God", or "fight with God". It also means "Defeat God".6- Gabriel also means "Strong God".7- Isaiah or Jesaiah, which is short for "Jesa Yahweh" means "Salvation from Yahweh". It could also mean "Salvation".8- Joshua, which is short for "Josh Yahweh" means "Yahweh Saves".9- Elli, which is a common name for men before and after Jesus, means "God". Psalm 82:6 "I said, 'You are "gods"; you are all sons of the Most High.' " "gods" here in Hebrew is "Elohim", which is plural of "EL". It is the same exact thing as "EL" used for Jesus in Isaiah 9:6, since "gods" is a combination of several "EL"s. And as clearly shown here, for someone to be called "god" or "God" in the Bible it wouldn't make him GOD Almighty Himself, the LORD or Jehovah. I also want to point out that ANY "Son of GOD" in the Bible is a "god" or "God" as clearly shown in Psalm 82:6.Note: The trinitarian liars who translate the Bible into English play dirty tricks about capitalizing and lowering the "g" in "God" to prove their trinity lie, while they fully know that it is the same word used for ALL!
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

When Jesus said "I and the Father are one," he did not mean literal oneness, or even equality, but a oneness of purpose, of action.If Jesus saying that he and his Father are "one" in this verse makes Jesus literally Almighty God, THEN JESUS' FOLLOWERS WERE ALSO LITERALLY ALMIGHTY GOD, since in John 17, Jesus stated in prayer to his Father that his followers would be "one, even as I am in you, and you in me, that they may also be one in us..."Jesus is "one" with his Father in a spiritual purpose and action, and not literally Almighty God.No, Jesus is not Almighty God, and his statement that he and his Father are "one" does not prove this.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

All quite good quotes on the other side, highlighting biblical inconsistencies yet again. I'm chipping in on this side because, Christians normally state their claims regardless of the logical fallacies that belie their teachings.So, whatever the Christians say about God, is true of the Christian God meme, eg, God is omni-benevolent (pointlessly and horrifically murders billions of life forms) or God is omniscient (yet can be disappointed when you mess up)and therefore he is both God and a weaker imperfect being that is perfect.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

So you say that it is logical not to be logical.sorry you are wrong.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

No, I didn't say that, explain yourself .
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

you are supporting the idea that ''Christians normally state their claims regardless of the logical fallacies that belie their teachings.''So you are giving them the excuses not to follow the logical thinking.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

In for a penny in for a pound. They don't follow logical thinking, that's the point, and they never will. Pointing out logical fallacy in the bible, doesn't matter to them, they just believe what they want to, or have been told to, they need no excuses.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

A religion should be ever logical. Even the Christianity would be more logical just if they followed the correct bible and not those who are corrupting the verses and the teachings to suit their purposes.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

Religions are illogical, not just Christianity. Out of curiosity which is the correct and logical bible?
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

You see, he is a Muslim like me and he believes that the bible was correct but has been changed by man and that is why God sent the Quar'an.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

why did you answer him when he asked for thebestnacny to answer
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

I and Elkurdi are one.we have the same purposes, that is why he answered for me.same logic I used Jesus used in John 10:30 "I and the Father are one.”
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

So you say that it is logical not to be logical.sorry you are wrong.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

I cannot accept that as a logically valid argument for your rebuttal, it is merely a comment.It is here that I will state that for the lack of a more acceptable evidences and reluctance of commenting of others that this debate "is Jesus God" points out that it is much more reasonable the Jesus is not than he is, this is the conclusion I have made base on the principle that the burden of proof lies with our opponent and that in this case they have not given any substantive and credible evidences capable of being examined by verbal or any other possible means.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

of course he is! how do you know jesus wasnt god, just in a human form. jesus died for our sins. he spoke like god, and he did miricales, he even forgave sins like god does. the only way to be saved is to go through jesus. jesus is god.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

We are all god. Everything is god. You guys are debating religion, which was created by man not by god.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Christianity isn't pantheism .
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

Duh! Are you trying to debate me on something??????????????????????????????
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Yes, the man is telling you that your words added new description to Christianity (Pantheism),which makes Christanity more close to Hinduism, even more than it actually is.http://www.createdebate.com/debate/show/ There_are_not_obvious_differences_between_Chritanity_and_Hinduism
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

This is going wrong again because of re-clicking the dispute.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

Yes, Yeshua is God. He claimed this and He accepted worship.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

our opponent seems to give rebuttals that are merely commentI cannot accept that as a logically valid argument for your rebuttal, it is merely a comment.This, I assume should be treated as a proper forum, thereby the participants are requested to give a scholarly basis for such claim. this small statement did not prove anything.It is here that I will state that for the lack of a more acceptable evidences and reluctance of commenting of others that this debate "is Jesus God" points out that it is much more reasonable the Jesus is not than he is, this is the conclusion I have made base on the principle that the burden of proof lies with our opponent and that in this case they have not given any substantive and credible evidences capable of being examined by verbal or any other possible means.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

Its hard to describe the trinity but it is three in one.The Father, The Son, The Holy Spirit. Jesus is a part of God but was sent down to earth to preach the Word.