Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

"Your opinion, not a fact." Yes it is an opinion and also a true one. Who's going to prove otherwise it's justifiable to kill whatever stage an unborn child is at just because somebody was irresponsible and they don't want to deal with consequences especially when their are other choices? What's their defense? It's a woman's body and she can do whatever she wants or it doesn't have consciousness so it's okay ? That is not a justifiable reason and it's not the real reason. It's senseless to compare that with something like, It's my choice to pick my nose or not which is exactly what it is being compared to! The real reason why women who get an abortion who got pregnant due to being irresponsible is they don't want to deal with consequences for being stupid and they'll use anything irrational to justify it! You can't argue that and it's not justifiable because one, your killing a life, two it affects the community both mentally and economically.  "Nobody does, and no-one ever will."Only those who don't want to."I'm sorry, I wasn't aware I was speaking to God. Nobody knows where morality comes from, or even whether it exists. This is a fundamental axiom that must be accepted if we are to have appropriate discourse."First I'm not claiming to be God. Secondly you're contradicting yourself by admitting that morality is a  self-evident truth that requires no proof. A universally accepted principle or rule. but at the same time you're saying nobody knows where it comes from or it even exists."So all things that provide good health are moral, and bad health are immoral? So, obesity is immoral? Or anorexia? Or bulimia?"Yes they are! To yourself and even to others under a politically attached society with an economical system!"Yes, I do think that. And you are yet to prove that they aren't.I knew it! The proof is I'm not a law offender and I don't need them to continue to be an upstanding citizen! If all the sudden the law changed from being illegal to legal to drive drunk, I still wouldn't do it."So if good morality=healthiness (based on your earlier statement), bad morality=unhealthiness. So, should we conversely punish those with obesity, cancer, or any other illness?"My original statement was, "Morality derives from nature and it is generally divided up between good and bad depending on how the act affects life's well-being both personally and to others." I didn't just limit it to physical health nor did I include natural illnesses to be part of it but if somebody is doing something harmful to themselves or others on purpose them yes, they should be reprimanded if they refuse to change the act or behavior."Objectively binding morality is morality that is universal for every human being that has lived, lives, and ever will live. It will never change, and every human on the planet is compelled to abide by it. You haven't proven that morality is objectively binding."It is objectively binding then! Look at medical insurance for employees that work in big companies. You could have a perfectly healthy person that eats well and exercises regularly that's has to pay high premiums because on the same work force you got somebody who doesn't care about there health and has frequent visits to the doctor. There's endless examples... So many it's hard to pick from to prove my point. You know I just can't walk by your house and take a shit on the your lawn because then you would have to pick it up. Get my drift?! And just as I told somebody else on here, If you don't believe in morality and you think anyone can do anything they want and all they need is some ridiculous rationalization, there is a perfect environment for that... It's called the wilderness... You can do whatever you'd like out there but, understand that the same can be done back to you and nobody or anything would care... Not one single thing!