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Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

Fact: People caused wars in the name of religion all over the world.Fact: Indifference due to religion caused wars.Fact: Power hunger in the name of religion caused wars.Open your eyes and see the truth, that truth is not pretty but the fact remains that religions have cause more wars then any other reason across the planet, religion is the worlds oldest weapon of mass destruction.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

FACT: Before "religion" was established by our ancestors, humans fought each other, naturally, for land, comfort/shelter, water, ect. FACT: The truth is what it is, neither pretty nor ugly. Nuclear bombs are ugly, and if I'm not mistaken, nukes have been the greatest weapon mankind has ever built and used. AND it was used to stop a war that was not based upon religion. You really think WW2 was about christianity? Nah, WW2 was about some crazy guy named Hitler, who the fuck cares if he was catholic or whatever, he didn't like a people, not because of religion but because he was fucking power hungry. Human error is the oldest weapon of mass destruction.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

"Religion has not caused wars!"It's odd that you'd tell me to get my fundamentals correct, after saying that yourself.What about the wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Pakistan and the Crusades? The Holocaust? These are but a few I could name off of the top of my head. Every single one of those was a war, or a one-sided conflict on purely religious reasons, or, would not have occurred without religion. People have caused wars!It's hard to see a war starting without any people involved.Indifference has caused wars!I am not sure how that's possible. War is a struggle, brought about by differences. How many wars were started because, on a particular issue, a political leader said; "On that subject, my country isn't terribly bothered. TO ARMS, MEN!"
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

*Meant to say "Indifference of good men has caused wars!"...whoops. All those wars you speak of were created by men who use the name of religiousness in a way to get what they want (as it's been since the beginning of us humans). Religion is not the reason why wars are brought upon people. Wars are brought upon due to the human error. Wars happened and happen and will happen because people have "faith" in whichever X, Y, Z god(s), entities, whatever. Therefore, religion is not the issue, it's the human beings consciousness choosing to act violent against whatever.I really believe there is a difference between the two.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

I don't think there is a difference. That's the same thing as giving a mental hospital full of psychopaths an assault rifle, and then saying;"It's not the guns that are the problem."I'd say that taking the guns away would solve the problem, and this analogy translates across to religion. If it weren't here, there wouldn't be any more religious war (obviously).
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

Guns and religion are not the same. Guns are meant to attack and defend a person. Religion is meant to find X, Y, Z whatever, or simply to have the desire to believe in something that is not in front of our eyes; helping the need of humans, in a genuine way. Guns are used poorly by humans. Religion is used poorly by humans, I'll give you this. However, I strongly believe the belief/spirituality of believing in a god(s), or even enlightenment, are more complex than giving a human a gun and seeing what happens. Think of weaponry in these wars, from stones, to swords, to guns, to nuclear power (power of the sun)? That's fucking ridiculous. Guns (weaponry) are the invention of mankind to attack and defend themselves. Religion, or the belief in any god(s), is and should be, weaponry for the heart, no violence involved. Obviously, humans use both guns and religion in poor manners.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

I care not for why, but for what shall we do to end this problem. A solution can be found in the banishment of religion - and for this, I am.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

Thats what we just said. Religion. .
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

Oh I'm getting pissed off with this whole " _____ didn't cause _____ people did" YES WELL PEOPLE CREATED ALL THESE BAD THINGS, AND BECAUSE OF THESE BAD THINGS, CONSEQUENTLY OTHER BAD THINGS HAPPEN. The fact is, if there was no religion, there would be NO RELIGIOUS WARS!
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

How can you claim that as true? Before "religion" began, even on the smallest level, our species was killing each other off (wars and battles, violence) for food, shelter, intimidation, ect; because that's what humans do. Our ancestors from the past even gave each other flowers, and sung songs for each other (non-violence). FACT: There has always been a constant battle between peace and violence, regardless of religion or non religion.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

All wars are casused by some religious affiliation...................................................
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

-American Revolution-Mexican-American war-Seven-years warRelgion isn't always part of the cause of a war.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

Atheism in itself is a form of religion. The religion of not believing in any divine being. What else would you call atheism. And the question is ARE not WERE (present not past).I don't have an opionion on this matter but at least I wanted to clarify.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

Definition of religion: Religion is a collection of belief systems, cultural systems, and world views that relate humanity to spirituality and, sometimes, to moral values.The only thing that can define atheism is a lack of belief in a god/deity (or two+) - there is no uniting belief system, nor culture system, nor world view that atheists share besides the disbelief in a god/s. And atheism (in and of itself) does not have a proposed morality theory (I am not saying that atheism is immortal, here), so no, atheism isn't a religion.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

Atheism is not a form or religion, it never was. A dictionary would clarify this point to you, Sir. Atheism is the lack of belief in a God or deity. Not a belief that they are fictional, not a belief in any number of scientific theories, merely, that an Atheist does not believe in a God.You try to dismiss the past as being irrelevant, at least to some degree, and to that I would object. If a killer is reading peacefully in his cell, did he therefore not butcher a man? Nay, the Church is no longer the force of war it once was, but it is yet the force of evil it always has been.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

So are you therefore saying that because I was once a baby, I am always going to be a baby? Because I was once a girl scout I will always be a girlscout? Because I was once 4 years old, I will always be 4 years old? People change. Things change. Just because the Churches once were involved in bloodshed that does not mean that the Church will always relish in bloodshed and that it will always be evil. The Churches changed for the better and now all arguments on the Crusades being proof are null. Void.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

No, I am not susceptible of such ghastly fallacies as those you ask of me.So rather than saying what happens in the past stays in the past, you're saying "What happened in the past never happened at all."My point was that these blemishes, while in times passed, are in sharp contrast with the unblemished path of atheism. Partly because, atheists are not an organisation and therefore cannot postulate a common agenda. The rogues are rogues, but atheism as a creed remains virgin, while the Church has always committed evil, and is in doing so, filthy.And, is the harbouring and protection of paedophiles not 'evil', in as many meanings as we may ascribe to the word? That exists today.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

Yes you have a point that religious wars would`t exist, but in time, if atheists become powerful. They will also succumb to division just as what happened to Christianity or another belief would stand up against it and there would also be another war. Upon difference in beliefs, war is most likely.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

There would be no war over "differing beliefs" like in Christianity, as the belief would be common. I'm not saying that there would be no war - perhaps politics would become the motivator - but certainly, there would be no religious war. None at all. Atheists don't differ in 'belief'.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

In history division leads to conflict and conflict leads to war. It just so happened that Christianity was just divided and no war between them happened. But if they became powerful, surely war may occur. As for Atheists, yes it is the same. But some of their philosophies differ. An example is how they disprove our creator. Thus from these difference in beliefs, division will occur, then conflict, then war. Man is war freak in nature.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

Well, that's just conjecture which you believe, and which I find dubious.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

The question is, who is more violent of the two,tho. Not who is evil, that is irrelevant to the question.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

Wait, I'm sorry, what I just said made no sense at all, lol. based upon what we have seen (history), who is more violent? I assert that religious peoples are more violent than Atheist because they has an innate history of violence. Too many killings and bombings and wars have been caused by religion. Not only governments, nations and empires, but individual people have gone and killed senselessly due to their religious beliefs. Would they have done these things if they were not followers of a religion? I do not consider myself a religious person, nor do I consider myself an Atheist, but this answer is plain to me.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

Again, religion did not and has not caused wars. People kill people.People brought wars upon themselves due to power hungry issues, selfish-ness, expansion, ect. People are the problem, people and their judgement. Not religion.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

If you're willing to admit that a whole host of social issues and human emotions are responsible for the violence in this world, why not religion? If "expansion" can be blamed for any violence throughout history, religion certainly can. Admittedly people do kill people, and people do bring wars, and people are the problem, but history would be very boring if it went something like, "Some people fought some people because people." We need to examine more than just that.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

Religion itself is not an emotion, it's not anger, frustration or happiness. It's a means to "find, or do" these things in "X, Y, Z guidelines/and or liberties within X, Y, Z religion and religious thoughts"..persay.There are knives all around me, guns all around me, however I do not choose to stab myself or a person, nor do I wish to be stabbed by another person. Knives are also used to cut carrots or a rope or other non-violent things. A fresh cup of coffee may say "do not drink, it is hot". So if the subject doesn't read, or can't and takes a drink, they'll burn the shit out of their mouths; with only themselves to blame, learn and live.Again, human beings being error prone are what the issue is. Not that a human being is religious or non-religious. We've still got choice, do we not? PS - The "expansion" I spoke of was namely the power hungry aspects of "need more land, more food, more this, more that..." And not because X, Y, Z god says so, but because humans are needy, greedy, hungry, for many things other than potatoes and broccoli.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

I guess my point is you can either examine the factors that drive people to do the horrendous things they sometimes do (like expansion) or you can't and you just blame it on people. If we can examine factors, religion is a perfectly acceptable factor to examine. If we can't examine religion, we have no reason to examine "expansion" or "greed," either, and we should just blame everything on humanity as a whole.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

I agree, let us blame the choices humans make, whether violence or not, religious, non religious. To name religion as "the, if not THE, main source of violence and wars (in the world) are religion and the religious." is incorrect, religion is not the cause, it isn't even the effect, of the human life. People are naturally curious in general, therefore most people have searched for answers in areas other than what's in front of their faces and ears. So with this said, the more people that are alive, the more chances of them having some sort of faith, religion, or spirituality. Further, the actions of human beings are based upon many variables and circumstances. And so, to blame it on religion to be more violent and what not is believe is incorrect. People believe in many things and aspects in this life, have many desires. Blame the negative aspects about the way people believe in X, Y, Z, fine, however, do not blame the entirety of it on religion or the religious. That's not the truth.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

If there was no religion, and no belief over a God that people take offence from if someone insulted their God, there would be no disputes/wars in religion, therefore religion is the sole cause of religious wars.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

Again, religion did not and has not caused wars.This is a point to which you cling mostly dearly, but it is of no worth - religion can only exist in human minds, which are fallible, so saying that the problems are caused in human minds is obvious, but, where else can religion exist?Religion has caused wars. Furthermore, Sharia law does in fact permit the killing of various infidel groups, and thus religion in itself causes war. The rest of the time, yes, the humans themselves err in the name of religion, but can it not be said that without religion, these wars would never have happened?
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

Atheists never had a Crusade. Atheists never had a inqusition.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

Atheists have nothing; they're exactly where they want to be. Yet, atheists want to expand and be the "new power"..... what makes Atheism more greater than any Religion?
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

We support the expansion of knowledge, reason and truth. Not occultist crap.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

Occultist? So all religions and religious people are occultist? You're wrong. Knowledge, reason and truth can be reached, desired and achieved by means other than atheism. Or did you not realize this?
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

How can it be achieved by flawed ancient myths and ideologies? In the bible, God demands people to be stoned to death for the littlest things like swearing, there are also countless verses about human/animal sacrifices. Not to mention speaking donkeys, bushes and snakes.If everyone followed the bible literally, it would be an Occult.But people are not dumb, because we can think for ourselves that what part of God's word is too mental to be believed. It's annoying how the religious fight against religion with their trash religious scriptures.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

No, whats fucking annoying are when people like you bash a particular religion, that of christianity and of the bible. What about the others? Or do you have a particular heat against christianity.Religion is not going anywhere.Not all religions are occultist.Not all religions are bad for people.Not all religions are ran by corrupt mother fuckers.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

How can other religions some how make Christianity okay to be fucked up? And don't fucking call me "people like you".Christianity is the most followed religion on Earth- so it is a religion of all religions. Competing religions such as Islam and Judaism are clearly no different/worse in their fallacies to Christianity. Not all religions are occultist.Not all religions are bad for people.Not all religions are ran by corrupt mother fuckers.I know, but in general facts to the most followed religions in the world, they are quite shitty.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

I dispute.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

Why do you dispute?
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

Occultist crap
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

Yea? And?
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

It's disrespectful.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

Disrespectful? How can I be disrespectful to something that doesn't exist?Concerning your religion of the Occult;- Wicca was started by a wannabee historian who made crap up.- Wicca was then taken and developed by a wannabee author who made crap up.- Wicca was girlified by a wannabee feminist who made stuff up, and changed the stuff other people made up.- Wicca is a legitimate religion (according to the internet).
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

I'm eclectic not gardenarian or whatever, I'm left-hand path, research based. I don't believe anything unless I proove it first.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

So you follow a new, unoriginal Wiccan tradition?I fail to see how it is more viable than the older ones.Wicca is rooted in beliefs that don't have empirical evidence. How do you call yourself a Wiccan, without believing that which is not proven?
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

Would a christian still be a christian if their god came before them and prooved it's existance? Or a buddhist a buddhist if they achieve enlightenment?Any more a paranormal researcher, who discovers ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

Would a christian still be a christian if their god came before them and prooved it's existance? Or a buddhist a buddhist if they achieve enlightenment?Are you saying that you have seen your God come up and prove their existence?Any more a paranormal researcher, who discovers ||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||.You're a paranormal researcher now? Do you even know how to research, other than use an Ouija board (a recent invention) and some candles (also a recent invention comprised of wax, which people find especially "magical" for some reason.)
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

I use only myself and what I can find from the past. I have never even touched a ouija board. I do not have any gods.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

Then why do you call yourself a Wiccan without the original ideologies? Does the magic stuff make you feel special?
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

I am wiccan because I practise witchcraft.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

Yes, magical spells, candles, herbs, crystals; all involved in witchcraft. Are you forgetting your previous statement about how you only followed things that had "proof". How is this the acception?
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

I use candle flame for meditation, I'm obsessed with geology, and I have a hobby with scientifically proven herbal healing.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

So herbal treatment, meditation, rock formations, etc. are all Witchcraft?Are you saying that everyday people are practising the art, without knowing it?!
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

No, I'm just explaining my interest in candles rocks and herbs. These items are useful though.
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Useful for lighting up a room, granting aesthetic jewelry and concocting natural medicine/adding fragrance to food.How are you a Wiccan, again?
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

Many aspects of my life are wiccan. And I'm not discussing them ;)
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Atheist are more peaceful

Nice excuses. "Not discussing" them. Wow that's getting us somewhere. Despite the fact that Wicca is a false religion, and spells/magic herbs, rocks and crystals take a massive part in the cult.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

Oh, please. Many religions have secrets.It's not a false religion, it has far more validity than many.
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Side: Atheist are more peaceful

Many religions are incredibly invalid. Wicca, and it's origins are incredibly invalid.
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Side: Religious people more peaceful

How so?
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Witchcraft; a major part of the Wiccan religion.Did you forget?
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Side: Religious people more peaceful

And ?
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Side: Atheist are more peaceful

You're illogical, and shouldn't be calling yourself a Wiccan, or a true Wiccan.
Debate: Atheist are more peaceful than religious people
Side: Religious people more peaceful

I am wiccan. Jus because you don't know anything about me or how I practice my religion, does not make me illogical.