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Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

So your saying people wrote the Bible to make life easier to cope with?For their time period. And those who still need that coping mechanism still seem to cling to it. So to answer your question, yes, I think that was one reason why the Bible and other sacred texts or stories were created.The Bible doesn't just contain facts. It contains TRUTH and HISTORY, things that actually happened.In the same way that a person may not just lie but create fictional stories to pass off at truth. Oh hey guess what, redundancy! You just said that the Bible doesn't just contain facts.....it also contains facts! Well by golly that certainly convinces me!Can you give me one reason why the Bible is false? Just one reason?Just to be clear, I acknowledge that there are accurate statements in the Bible. So I am not claiming the entire Bible is false. However, to give you an example of a statement in the Bible which is inaccurate: Jonah was swallowed by a whale (Matthew: 12:40 KJV). But Jonah 1:17 (KJV) says that Jonah was swallowed by a fish. Whales are not fish, they're marine mammals. So one or both of these statements in the Bible are wrong/false.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

"I am not claiming the entire Bible is false," wow. Guess what, if you think some of the Bible is true and some of it is false, then how do you know the true from false?! If one thing is false, the whole thing could be false!
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

"I am not claiming the entire Bible is false," wow. Guess what, if you think some of the Bible is true and some of it is false, then how do you know the true from false?! If I see a tie-dye ball, I'm not going to claim the entire ball is green, I'm going to say that some of the ball is green, some of it is blue, some of it is whatever the hell other colors are on the ball. Just because I don't find it one solid color does not mean my distinction between colors must be in question. If I am stating that some of the Bible is true and some of it is false; obviously I am drawing a distinction between them and using effort to attempt to find that line between truth and fiction. And I use evidence and demonstrable fact for my distinction.If one thing is false, the whole thing could be false!COULD be, yes, doesn't mean that it is. Also, if one part of the ball is blue, the whole ball could be blue, but it also could have other colors on the ball.Oh and I just love you how don't acknowledge the rest of my post, especially when I gave you an example of a false statement in the Bible, which you had requested for.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

so my point again is the mass murders and violent rape marries and endless self diminishing right?
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

It has little to do with coping! It has everything to do with instructions on how to stand and remain before a God who says many times, you can't see Him and live.So He always came in a cloud, or just sent part of Himself. There are no arbitrary rules.One is seed of darkness the other is seed of light. These seeds produce their own fruits. Bad fruit can't remain.Satan is the god of this world, God already judged him, any fruit from his seed is already judged because it's the seed of darkness bearing judged fruit of deeds only found in darkness.Sin is just sin, I don't think God "decides" what sin is. It is what it is, and it just is Darkness, and not Light. God isn't having a temper tantrum, or being tyrinical. He is instructing us, who choose Eternal Life with Him on how to stand and remain, when we come face to face, before Him, knowing, what happens to darkness in His presence!What God defines as sin is anything that is not born of light.Because DARKNESS SHRINKS BACK, IT CAN'T REMAIN IN LIGHT!ETERNAL LIFE - WHERE DOES TIME STAND ETERNALLY STILL?The ancient prophets understood the properties of Light, it took us about 6000 years for science to understand the properties of Light. So just maybe we should give this all some thought!
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

You're the one saying it's rue, you show me how it's correct
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

Yes Joel I can no you's all say you totally believe in the bible as the word of God but backtrack quick enough when asked according to Mark 16:17-18, true believers can drink poison and handle snakes with no ill effects: And these signs will accompany those who believe: ... So bet you won't drink poison even though your protected by your God faith indeed ..... Wake up Joel it's a fairytale
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

well then what happens if I drink poison? I'll die, but I'll go to be with the Lord. So, theoretically, I could drink poison.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

If you drink poison and die you don't get to see your God because only a true believer can drink and survive ... Oh and here's what your God said so it's not me making it up ,you are disobeying your God by saying something he did not say1) “For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass the law until all is accomplished. Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” (Matthew 5:18-19 RSV) Clearly the Old Testament is to be abided by until the end of human existence itself. None other then Jesus said so.....
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

It's not a matter of drinking and surviving in this life. Christians could drink poison and go to heaven where they would stay. This life isn't as important as heaven.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

You don't comprehend the bible quote about poison it says if you believe and drink it ,it will not effect you because you believe , if you die from the poison you don't believe , so you know where that leads according to your book !
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

Mark 16:17-18 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.Matthew 4:7It is also written: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'Don't go out of your way to put yourself in trouble because God will save you. But if you do fall in trouble, then know that he will save you.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

Tell that to a man I know who lost a young wife to sudden death syndrome , so tell me your after saying if you fall in trouble he will save you she was a devout believer so your statement is garbage you see friend talk is cheap . And regards your first statement he tells you you can do miracles if you believe but don't test him what a load of bull .
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

It's the copy of many religions such as horus..Horus was baptized in the river Eridanus. Jesus was baptized in the river Jordan Both were baptized at age 30.Horus was baptized by Anup the Baptizer. Jesus was baptized by John the Baptist.Both Anup and John were later beheaded.Horus was taken from the desert of Amenta up a high mountain to be tempted by his arch-rival Set. Jesus was taken from the desert in Palestine up a high mountain to be tempted by his arch-rival Satan.Both Horus and Jesus successfully resist this temptation.Both have 12 disciples.Both walked on water, cast out demons, healed the sick, and restored sight to the blind.Horus "stilled the sea by his power." Jesus commanded the sea to be still by saying, "Peace, be still."Horus raised his dead father (Osiris) from the grave. Jesus raised Lazarus from the grave. (Note the similarity in names when you say them out loud. Further, Osiris was also known as Asar, which is El-Asar in Hebrew, which is El-Asarus in Latin.)Osiris was raised in the town of Anu. Lazarus was raised in Bethanu (literally, "house of Anu").Both gods delivered a Sermon on the Mount.Both were crucified.Both were crucified next to two thieves.Both were buried in a tomb.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

beautifully said. i could not have said it in any other way myself. well done on finding this.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

Where's my vote up ;) !
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

They may be similar but they are not the same and Horus isn't mentioned in the Bible..
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

Theyre exactly the same almost 100%! And no shit horus isnt mentioned in the bible! You dont plagiarize someone elses story and then write them in as the author.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

its not that they are similar, its that they are identical. plus if your to say Jesus came before the Egyptians, then im sorry but no, you would be wrong. and you are now.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

If Horus and Jesus are similar, then what's the point in disbelieving Jesus, and believing Horus, when you could disbelief Horus, and believe Jesus. Why? Because Horus has a little bit different story and you don't like fact that there's a Hell.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

Why do you disbelief Jesus, and believe Horus, when you could disbelief Horus, and believe Jesus? I think it's because Horus's story is different, and that in the story of Jesus and Bible there is a Hell, and you don't like that, so you turn to Horus. Plus, I researched. Horus was a god. So, I know Horus wasn't real. How? Because the only god, is the God of the Trinity.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

OK um, maybe i missed something. so Jesus in not god, but im supposed to pray to him for a good life? The trinity thing is what? three parts to one god? i thought god was not physical. so how is he be a man and still god? oh yeah cuz he willing brakes rules, right...?Horus's story was before his that was my point to bring him up. unless you think Jesus can time travel. witch would be a neat plot twist. And no, im content if there is a hell (witch i don't think is real either).do i think ill go. i don't know. im not worried about dying and going to heaven; when there is so much more on this world that has to be done. the heaven and hell thing is stupid to every worry about ever! when now, you should worry about education, rent, jobs, people wanting your stuff because they know no better and most of all, a family that looks up to you... i think the bible was a good moral stepping stone, to expand our understanding and thinking at the time it was given. however as time goes on we see we dont need it more and more. further more, we see it to be wrong over and over again. How is it ok, to make your daughter marry her rapists? yet Jesus was right in everything he did? heaven and hell? come on, i dont want to be in a place filled with rapists. those people are scum of the earth. Yet they are glorified and get to go to heaven?listen if there is a hell and i end up going it would not be because i did not believe. it would be because i did not do enough to help another person. the bible is a stepping stone. not an absolute. Through out history! the bible kills millions, no billions because people are still doing it today from it. you said you did history on this. so why do you believe? whats in it for you? a spot next to a guy that has probably raped some poor girl? A justified mass murder? or maybe that guy who brain washed billions to get more money? heaven sounds like hell. and to deny it would be child like and beyond foolish. "Why do you disbelief Jesus, and believe Horus, when you could disbelief Horus, and believe Jesus?" i dont believe i was just using them as examples.Egyptian mythology has hell to.if it makes it any more of an interesting discussion explain how the parts that are not from Egypt but from Jewish history; only altered to fit the need.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

Heh, i don't think there is a place named Bethanu, but there is a place called Bethany, meaning house of misery/poverty. Claim: Horus was baptized in a river at the age of 30, and his baptizer was later beheaded.Truth: Horus was never baptized. While the conspiracy theorists will often point to “Anup the Baptizer” and claim he was later beheaded, there is no such person in Horus’ story.Claim: Horus had 12 disciplesTruth: Horus had only four disciples (called ‘Heru-Shemsu’), but at some point in his story there is reference to sixteen followers, and a group of unnumbered followers who join Horus in battle (called ‘mesnui’). But there’s no reference to twelve followers.Claim: Horus performed miracles, exorcized demons, raised someone from the dead, walked on waterTruth: Of course Horus performed miracles, after all he was supposed to be a god!! But there was no mention of exorcizing demons, raising people from the dead or walking on water.Claim: Horus delivered a “Sermon on the Mount”, and his followers recounted his sayings. He was transfigured on the MountTruth: Horus never delivered a “Sermon on the Mount”, nor was he transfigured.Claim: Horus was crucified between two thieves, buried for three days in a tomb, and was resurrectedTruth: Horus is not reported to have died at all in the vast majority of story versions. There is also no crucifixion story. Instead, Horus is usually described as eventually merging with Ra (the Sun god) after which he ‘dies’ and is ‘reborn’ every single day as the sun rises. (This is a bit of a stretch at a death and resurrection parallel). Now there is an unofficial story that describes Horus as dying and being cast in pieces into the water, and later fished out by a crocodile at Isis’ request.Blah blah. Yup that's it...If you want more...tell me.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

You should be banned for spamming.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

There's barely any evidence that Jesus existed, let alone resurrected. Assuming that he was real, it makes more sense that his body was stolen.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

If his body was stolen, then how did he appear again to his twelve disciples and to many others??
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

That's what the Bible says... that doesn't mean it really happened.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

Yes, actually it does mean it's true. EVERYTHING in the Bible is true. The Bible does NOT say his body was stolen. GuitarGuy, do you think you are a good person? Just a plain question, no tricks. Just answer honestly, do you think you are a good person?
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

Why does that mean it is true? Were you there? Do you believe everything that you hear and read? How do you know that the people who wrote the Bible were trustworthy? If everything in the Bible is true, then you can admit that God was an asshole throughout a lot of the Old Testament, right?I think I'm a pretty good person. Why do you ask?
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

To answer your questions, just read the other reply in the other argument. :)Well, everyone who is an unbeliever and does not repent, will, on judgement day, be sent to Hell for eternity. Now, I'm not using scare tactics when I say this but guess what? Have you ever lied? Yes. Have you ever stolen anything? Yes. Have you ever committed adultery by lusting at a women? Yes. Have you ever taken the Lord's name in vain? Yes.Sir, that means your a lying, thief, adulterer at heart, and a blasphemer. If you continue in sin, and don't repent, you would end up in hell. When are you going to die? You have no idea. Again, no scare tactics involved. Just straight up reality/truth. If you died right now, and ended up in hell, I wouldn't want that. So please, GuitarGuy, put your trust in the one true God and live for Him.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

By the way, you sure do down vote a lot... at least back it up with an argument.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

Well, everyone who is an unbeliever and does not repent, will, on judgement day, be sent to Hell for eternity.That's pretty fucked up. Is that some sort of way for God to control Heaven's population? lol If someone is a good person, they obviously don't deserve an eternity of suffering.Have you ever lied?Nope... ;)Have you ever stolen anything?Okay, fine... I was the one who stole the cookie from the cookie jar. Have you ever committed adultery by lusting at a women?Adultery? I ain't no cheater yo!Have you ever taken the Lord's name in vain?Oh... my... lawd.Sir, that means your a lying, thief, adulterer at heart, and a blasphemer.What!? Hey! Fuck you too. If you continue in sin, and don't repent, you would end up in hell.They won't take me alive!... oh, wait.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

"If someone is a good person," WHICH NO ONE IS. Think deep down, you and I know how selfish and ugly we can be. We deserve to be in Hell right now. The chances of you NOT lying ever so far in your life are very slim. Maybe you haven't lied, but guess what? You've broken one of the 10 commandments which makes you liable for the rest! Our hearts have the ability to commit the other 'said' sin. (Pls no language. gah.) And as for lusting at a women? I know you've looked at a women with lust. And when I said that your a lying, thief, adulterer at heart, and a blasphemer, I'm not just pointing at you. I'm also a wicked sinner. But praise the Lord, because he died for my sins, that I've committed and still commit, so I wouldn't have to! He desires for us to be in Heaven with Him. GuitarGuy, how often do you think about spiritual things?? Just wondering.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

WHICH NO ONE IS.I find that hard to believe.We deserve to be in Hell right now.Ummm... no we don't. Well, at least I don't think I do...I'm not so sure about you though lol.The chances of you NOT lying ever so far in your life are very slim. Maybe you haven't lied, but guess what?You're being gullible again. I put the winky face in there for a reason.And as for lusting at a women? I know you've looked at a women with lust.Well, duh! That doesn't mean I slept with a married woman. GuitarGuy, how often do you think about spiritual things?? Just wondering.I was a Christian growing up. By the time I was in high school, I started asking questions. So I researched it a little bit... and then once I was in college I enrolled in a course where I got an opportunity to study the world's religions in a lot of detail. I was really interested in the subject and passed at the top of my class. I hate to sound like I'm bragging, but I do think that I have a little more authority than most of the users on this site when it comes to religion, due to my knowledge on the subject that I acquired from sources outside of the internet. The sad truth is that you are somewhat brainwashed. Religions have particular patterns. They all copy certain details off of each other. As far as the world's more dominant religions, Hinduism came first and then Judaism, even Buddhism came before Christianity. Buddhism actually was one of the first religions to introduce the virgin birth.... but before all of those religions, came things like Egyptian Polytheism, which Christianity surprisingly mimics a lot of details from. Jesus is actually very similar to the Egyptian god Horus (I think that's his name).Anyways, I know you're probably afraid to ask questions about your religion... but you'd probably be better off if you did... and I'd be willing to share with you any knowledge I have on the subject, if you are willing to ask the questions.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

You can't "be a Christian growing up." If you say that, that means you never were saved to begin with.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

I was raised a Christian. By the way, "Christian" is just a term people made to label their beliefs. Jesus wasn't a Christian. You don't have to say that you are one. You make the decision whether or not you want to believe, it's not like you start believing and then you can never stop.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

Well, what if more than 500 witness saw the once dead Jesus walking around with his eleven disciples (since Judas suicided)?
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

500 witnesses? All accounted for? You show me some evidence where 500 people say that they saw Jesus walking around after his death.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

[http://www.leaderu.com/everystudent/easter/articles/josh2.html] Haha nobody would wanna waste their time reading that, if you have time to waste, sure, you're welcome to.1 Corinthians 15:6"After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep."This was written by Paul, who, before, dug information for Christians and sent thousands of them to their deaths blahblah who later followed Christ. (A guy who is in high class, educated by the best teachers...anyways the ideal man every student would want to be when they grow up).Psychologists say it's impossible to have hundreds of people hallucinate at the same time.People died for these messages and still do in currently over the world. You might want to question why they stupidly risk their lives over an old book that might not be true. (Maybe because they experienced something other people did not?)
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

"After that, he appeared to more than five hundred of the brothers and sisters at the same time, most of whom are still living, though some have fallen asleep."So the evidence that supports the claim that 500 people saw Jesus walking around after his death is the Bible? That doesn't prove anything. How come we don't hear those claims from secular sources?Psychologists say it's impossible to have hundreds of people hallucinate at the same time.Which means that either the Bible is true or the Bible is false... and that is what this debate is about.People died for these messages and still do in currently over the world. You might want to question why they stupidly risk their lives over an old book that might not be true.Okay... and how about I ask the Muslims why they die for the message within the Qur'an, the Buddhists why they die for the message within the Tripitaka , the Hindus why they die for the message within the Verdas? You get the point. Some people are willing to die for their beliefs, but that doesn't make them true.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

Nice, good point. Possibilities. Thanks man, that IS a good stuff to actually research about. :)