azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: Wait..., what? No!!!

How is a fetus not a baby?So a baby is now a fetus and every new baby you see you call a fetus , interesting  An unborn baby is still a baby.So there's no such thing as a fetus now ?Maybe a dog fetus isn't a human, but a human fetus is a human.So you go around calling fellow humans a fetus That's on you, Derm *^Says you the pedant You said "defending your attacks. Why would you defend my attacks?You're making no sense again I have been this whole argument.No , you're still not I meant strict.I know just pointing it out as I know how important it is to you Because abortion isn't legally defined as murder as of 2018.Yes , so a woman who aborts is not as you falsely claim a murdererI didn't say you said it, I said what your logic entails.No , that's what your faulty " reasoning " assumes But I don't, You do and I'm not the first to point it out I'm copying your logic.You're not and you need to stop stating you use logic when the concept is alien to you
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

The problem with that reasoning is that the fetus didnt just pop out of nowhere like some kind of virus, it was due to consensual hanky panky stuff (rape cases etc put aside of course) If you cant assume the consequences of an action, just dont do it!And even after birth the baby is reliable on its mother for sustenance
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: Wait..., what? No!!!

It takes two to do it , also a fetus has zero rights regarding usage of the woman’s body , a baby is not reliant on the body of the woman for sustenance over which it has no right
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

So, why does the fetus have zero rights "regarding usage of the woman's body"? As you said, it takes two to make a fetus, so if they took the risk, why doesn't the fetus have any rights?
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: Wait..., what? No!!!

So, why does the fetus have zero rights "regarding usage of the woman's body"The woman's rights should always trump any rights real or imagined the fetus actually has ^As you said, it takes two to make a fetus Don't tell me you disagree with that statement as well ?so if they took the risk,Yes unprotected sex is a risk  why doesn't the fetus have any rights?*As I stated it's a woman's individual choice not mine if she wishes to carry to term fine , if she wants to abort fine as that's her choice not mine or yours
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

The woman's rights should always trump any rights real or imagined the fetus actually hasThey're both humans. Do my rights as an adult trump the rights of a child? No.Don't tell me you disagree with that statement as well ?I don't disagree with that statement.if she wants to abort fine as that's her choice not mine or yoursI'm not saying it's my choice, I'm just saying the fetus shouldn't be treated the same as an inmate would be.
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: Wait..., what? No!!!

They're both humans. They're not unless one attributes new meanings to the term fetus and human Do my rights as an adult Trump those of a child  No That's because a fetus is not a child  I'm just saying the fetus shouldn't be treated the same as an inmate would be.I know what you're saying , I disagree , in your world do you not accept different points of view ?
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

They're notSo, an unborn baby is a nonhuman clump of cells? This makes no sense.That's because a fetus is not a childAnalogy, Derm.I know what you're saying , I disagreeOkay, disagreement is healthy.in your world do you not accept different points of view ?I accept different points of view from people who actually argue instead of spewing the same 3 sentences.
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: Wait..., what? No!!!

So, an unborn baby is a nonhuman clump of cells? This makes no sense.A fetus is a clump of cells , yes a lot of things make no sense to you it seems , maybe if you run off and get your " book "and crayons we can draw you a couple of diagrams ? Analogy, Derm Poor Analogy at that I accept different points of view from people who actually argue instead of spewing the same 3 sentences.Says the clown who keeps babbling on about front lawns and contradicting his own gibberish
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

@DermotA fetus is a clump of cellsAn adult human is a clump of cells too.
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

An adult human  Is a human and all that entails a clump of cells too.That's a fetus
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

A fetus is a clump of cells , yes a lot of things make no sense to you it seems , maybe if you run off and get your " book "and crayons we can draw you a couple of diagrams ?And you say I'm petty? A fetus is a human clump of cells with human features.Poor Analogy at thatI'd say it's a pretty good analogy, but that's my opinion.Says the clown who keeps babbling on about front lawns and contradicting his own gibberishI'm not babbling, unless you consider arguing like a normal person as babbling. I'm also not saying any gibberish unless you consider your own logic gibberish. Also, how'm I the clown? You're the one running in circles.
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: Wait..., what? No!!!

And you say I'm petty? Yes and pedantic also A fetus is a human clump of cells with human features.A fetus is a clump of cells ...... yes I'd say it's a pretty good analogy,It's not but if it makes you feel good that's fine  I'm not babbling, You are unless you consider arguing like a normal person If your intellect is the bar for normality , I will attempt to dumb it down for you I'm also not saying any gibberish unless you consider your own logic gibberish.No I consider your babble gibberish , my logic is faultless Also, how'm I the clown?Self awareness is not one of your strengths is it ?Also what's how'm mean ? You're the one running in circles.Yes , attempting to flee your front lawn gibberish
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: Wait..., what? No!!!

Everyone is a clump of cells. We should legalize retroactive abortions ;)
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

Yes and pedantic alsoAh, okay.It's notIt is.but if it makes you feel good that's fineMore false logic from Dermot.You areI'm not.If your intellect is the bar for normalityMy intellect is above the bar for normality, but not by very much.I will attempt to dumb it down for youNo "dumbing down" required, just a bit of sense from your side.No I consider your babble gibberishAnd that's your opinion, which we do not share.my logic is faultlessIt's only faultless when it works in your favor.Self awareness is not one of your strengths is it ?I'm pretty self-aware, though I can't say the same for you considering the "arguments" you've typed out so far.Also, what's how'm mean ?How'm = How amex. How'm I the clown?Yes , attempting to flee your front lawn gibberishIs that so? Why don't you just climb over your "bar of intellect" nonsense? Does your "faultless logic" have something to do with it?
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: Wait..., what? No!!!

It is  It's not more false logic from Dermot.You do not understand the first thing about logic I'm not.You are  intellect is above the bar for normality, but not by very much. With this I agree No "dumbing down" required, just a bit of sense from your side. Well you don’t know the difference between a fetus an adult and a baby so blaming me on your stupidity is hardly fair It’s only faultless when it works in your favour Which is relatively easy when used against your “ arguments “  I’m pretty self aware , though I can’t say the same for you considering the “ arguments you’ve typed so far Maybe I need a “ front lawn “ argument as common sense eludes you  How’m I the clown There’s that lack of self awareness again Your last statement is nonsense and void of implication .... what a surprise
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

It's notWe'll agree to disagree.You do not understand the first thing about logic.And what would the first thing be? The definition? I think I explained the definition of logic to you in a previous reply.You areProof, please?With this I agreeWe'll just take that at face value.Well you don't know the difference between a fetus an adult and a babyDo you need dumbing down? You can't seem to comprehend my argument. An adult isn't a fetus or a baby. A baby isn't an adult, and neither is a fetus. A fetus is an unborn human being, a baby is a very young human being, meaning it's been born. I'm not blaming you for my "stupidity", I'm blaming you for your stupidity.Which is relatively easySo when you use your logic to fit your narrative, it's cool, but then somehow it doesn't work when I use the same reasoning to fit my narrative?when used against your " arguments "Again, why doesn't it work when I use it for my narrative?Maybe I need a “ front lawn “ argumentWould you like me to use a different argument? Fine. Let me set the scene:You're a slaveowner. Your slaves try to revolt. You kill some of them because they're on your land and rely on you to survive, so it's your choice on whether or not to kill them. Doesn't that seem immoral?There’s that lack of self awareness againAnd yet you fail to realize your own...
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: Wait..., what? No!!!

You areI don’t even know what this is meant to mean at this stage Well you don't know the difference between a fetus an adult and a babyConsidering you spent the whole thread saying a fetus was a baby at last you’re starting to get it that a fetus is not a “ baby “ , Why you’re blaming me for what you have only eventually grasped is beyond me . So when you use your logic to fit your narrative, it's cool, but then somehow it doesn't work when I use the same reasoning to fit my narrative?You don’t use “ reasoning “ I’ve said from the start a fetus has zero rights to sustenance or useage of a womans body and it’s a woman’s choice whether to abort or not , you have never attempted to address or answer what I asked from the outset as you continue to do a ridiculous dance around terms , why’s that ? Let’s cut to the chase in an attempt to avoid your childish attempts to avoid actually answering what I keep asking , should a woman have a choice to prevent a life been born or not , if not why not ? Would you like me to use a different argument? Fine. Let me set the scene:You're a slaveowner. Your slaves try to revolt. You kill some of them because they're on your land and rely on you to survive, so it's your choice on whether or not to kill them. Doesn't that seem immoral?Why theses ridiculous analogies ? Is this another avoidance tactic by you ?Why do you assume you have the right to tell a woman whether she can abort or not ? And yet you fail to realize your own...What a “ superb “ reply
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: Wait..., what? No!!!

If a woman has the right to terminate an unwanted pregnancy, shouldn't a man have a right to NOT support an unwanted pregnancy forced upon him? ;)
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

Interesting , well in that case the man has to accept the consequences of his actions and “ pay the piper “
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

Interesting how the woman doesn't have to accept the consequences of hers actions and “ pay the piper “ ;)
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: Wait..., what? No!!!

Interesting how the woman doesn't have to accept the consequences of hers actions and “ pay the piper “ ;)But she does as in it’s a tough decision to make is it not ?What do you want to happen her ?
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: Wait..., what? No!!!

I don’t care either way to be honest ;)
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: Wait..., what? No!!!

BTW, the brain directs electrical signals necessary for normal growth. https://www.wired.com/story/brainless-embryos-suggest-bioelectricity-guides-growth/  ;)
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: Wait..., what? No!!!

And what should I conclude from that statement ? .......................
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: Wait..., what? No!!!

I don't know. Maybe that it isn't just a clump of cells ;)
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

I don’t care either way to be honest ............................
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

Lol, well...., that's just stating the obvious ;)
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

Considering you spent the whole thread saying a fetus was a babyA fetus is an unborn human being. Let's get that straight.You don’t use “ reasoning “Yes, I do. I use your reasoning.I've said from the start a fetus has zero rights to sustenanceSo, because it's inside another human being, that human being has zero rights?and it's a woman's choice whether to abort or notWhy does she get to choose whether or not to kill another human being? You've yet to answer. What gives her the right, other than your faulty logic?you have never attempted to address or answer what I asked from the outsetWhat question did you ask? Restate the question and I'll answer it.why’s that ?Because I haven't seen any form of a question that wasn't meant to make me dig myself into the ground. Again, just ask a question and I'll answer.should a woman have a choice to prevent a life been born or notNo.if not why not ?The fetus is a human and a living human at that.Why theses ridiculous analogies ? Is this another avoidance tactic by you ?Because I want you to answer my question. I've answered your question, now answer mine.Why do you assume you have the right to tell a woman whether she can abort or not ?Again, because I think that abortion is manslaughter, not murder because murder is defined as being premeditated, and more often than not abortions are impulsive.What a " superb " replyI'm just telling you the truth.Now, let's be civil, yeah?
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: Wait..., what? No!!!

A fetus is an unborn human being. Let's get that straight.It’s not , it is a “ potential “ human in the making , don’t take my word on it consult a medical text Even if I allow for your assertion that its a “ human being “ so what ? Yes, I do. I use your reasoning.Another typically childish response So, because it's inside another human being, that human being has zero rights?Correct  and it's a woman's choice whether to abort or notAgain correct Why does she get to choose whether or not to kill another human being? Her body , her choice You've yet to answer. I keep telling you but for some reason you fail to complain smile statement , let’s try for to 50 th time ...... ready .....listen Her body, her choice What gives her the right, other than your faulty logic?My logic is fine your being childish yet again , so you’re saying a woman should have no rights over her body , that makes you a bully and a tyrant you have never attempted to address or answer what I asked from the outsetWill I repeat it again for the 51st time ? What question did you ask? Restate the question and I'll answer it.I asked you several questions most which you avoided by remaining mute , let’s try one of them again as in ......What gives you the right to tell a woman what she can do with her body regarding abortion ? should a woman have a choice to prevent a life been born or notNo.But contraception is used to prevent a life being born so you disagree with contraception ?Tripped up on your own logic again , you’ve admitted you’re against preventing a life to be born so therefore to be consistent you have to be against contraception , well ?  The fetus is a human  it’s not go consult wiki and a living human at that.It’s alive but not as yet a human  I've answered your question,You avoided mind  now answer mineI have several times Again, because I think that abortion is manslaughterMerely your opinion based on your own view of the situation and thankfully lawmakers and legislators disagree with your primitive viewpoint and more often than not abortions are impulsive.What do you base that ridiculous reply on ?
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

It’s not , it is a “ potential “ human in the makingFair point.Even if I allow for your assertion that its a " human being " so what ?So you would allow a woman to kill a human being that relies on her? Let's take away all factors, except for that their's a human and the woman wants to kill it. Is that not murder/manslaughter?CorrectWhy?Again correctAgain, why? Excluding "her body, her choice", because that response is based on nothing other than the response itself.Her body , her choiceWhat about the father? Doesn't he get a say? What if he doesn't want an abortion? It's his son too, and the mother wouldn't be a mother if not for him.so you’re saying a woman should have no rights over her bodyWhen did I say women shouldn't have any rights over their bodies? You get angry when I do that, but then you turn around and do the same thing.that makes you a bully and a tyrantAnd that makes you immoral, saying women can kill their children without input from the father.you have never attempted to address or answer what I asked from the outsetYou typed that, not me. I addressed that in my last response.What gives you the right to tell a woman what she can do with her body regarding abortion ?Nothing, other than the law considering with abortion you're still killing a potential human.But contraception is used to prevent a life being bornBy contraception you mean things like birth control pills, correct? We'll assume that's the focus here. Contraception is different than abortion because it stops the potential life from existing in the first place. In other words, the fetus doesn't exist. With abortion, you're ending the fetus' life.so you disagree with contraception ?No, I actually encourage contraception for teens and those who think they don't have the money to raise a child, the same goes for adoption.you’re against preventing a life to be bornNo, I'm against terminating a life.you have to be against contraceptionNo, I'm pro-contraception. it's not go consult wikiIt is, read thisfe·tusˈfēdəs/Submitnounan unborn offspring of a mammal, in particular, an unborn human babylawmakers and legislators disagree with your primitive viewpointTell that to Mississippi.
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

You mean a potential human in the making?It's not a potential human, it is a human. Already. Women can't give birth to fish.Yes I would allow her to abort is this not clear to you yet ?I'm fully aware of your immorality.Anti-abortion advocates make the jump from these cells being capable of later on forming a person to the conclusion that these cells are the equivalent of a personWhere's your evidence? Also, what makes a fetus' cells different from a newborn's cells?I fail to see how that jump in logic is validThere was no jump to begin with.What you mean is " let's insert your particular view"" and attempt to force the issueNo, you simply don't enjoy it when others use your view and put into any other circumstance. Let me ask, how is it different? Killing an adult and killing a baby?why's that?I don't assume they're correct because I say they are, that's you.Why does that upset you ?It doesn't upset me, but I wish you'd make an argument excluding feelings.What a bizarre statement the presonse explains perfectly the woman's positions in the mattersWhat?He does but his wishes are secondary to the woman'sAnd why's that? If not for him, how did the baby get there in the first place?also I bet he only gets a say if he's anti abortion isn't that right ?No, it's not right. I don't care what your stance is as long as you make a choice.Or do you believe he also can only make 1 choice ?See, this is gibberish. What are you saying?What if he does?Then let him make that choice. I can't tell anyone what to do, and neither can you.Potential son /daughter actuallyBack to being petty, are we? Well, in that case, what about the 63 other genders some of your liberal friends propose exist?So what?So she wouldn't be making the choice in the first place.Well you wish to deny the woman a right to abort so that’s a denial of her bodily rightsLet me ask you this: Who/what gives you "bodily rights"? Certainly not the government, there isn't an abortion section of the First Amendment. So, where does she get her bodily rights from?Incorrect , I’m perfectly will to allow a woman to carry a child to pregnancy or abort making me a paragon of fairness and moralityYou stand for abortion, so you clearly aren't being fair to the human you're killing.I can't read the rest of your argument, which is most likely due to you placing your asterisks incorrectly and not proof-reading. I'll be glad to address those when you fix it.
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: Wait..., what? No!!!

I can tell (by the length of the posts here) that both of you guys are committed ;)
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: Wait..., what? No!!!

My process of re - educating the lower orders demands commitment, I’m a beacon of light amongst the darkness of ignorance
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: Wait..., what? No!!!

A beacon of light? Most scientists admit that they do not know when "life" begins ;)
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

A beacon of light?Is this an echo chamber ?  Most scientists admit that they do not know when "life" begins ;)And ...................
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

And you seem to claim you know ;)
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

Of course I claim this as in I have my own opinion on the matter is that so unusual ?
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

Ah. Opinion. I was reading over both arguments and methinks you both protest too much. But that's an opinion ;)
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

And you’re entitled to it , I’m passionate about women’s rights as in women deciding regarding a choice over what they wish to do with their bodies , it’s because of my background brought up in a Catholic dominated society where women were treated like dogs
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

But did you ever stop to consider that maybe you are passing the buck to some other human life? ;)
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

Explain further please as I'm not clear on what you're saying
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

You are passionate about women's rights because you have witnessed how they are treated. You 'believe' that a fetus is just a clump of cells, but no one knows with 100 percent certainty. You could be defending women's rights at the expense of a fetus' life. My approach to the conundrum is to state my opinion and leave it at that. Not try to defend it too much. But that's just me ;)
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

You could be defending women's rights at the expense of a fetus' life.Not could be , I am protecting the woman’s rights taking precedence over the potential life of the unborn Your approach is sensible but its a debate forum and I love to battle
Debate: A fetus is just one phase of a human's life.
Side: True.

potential life of the unborn? That's like telling someone, "You have a potentially long life to live..." just before you blow their brains out ;)