azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: No

Forgive me if I am misunderstanding you but I feel you are being fairly vague in many of your statements.Are you saying the lack of any evidence for God is only because he is too great for us to perceive? Or are you saying that his existence is independent of belief? If so, that is true of God, and also everything else. It also does not mean that he does exist. The Noah's Ark, exact dimensions as the bible statedTo my knowledge, no evidence of Noah's Ark has ever been discovered.Wall of Jericho, Mechanical Resonance -> caused the back wall to slide down and fall on top of the front wallIs this an explanation of something that could have caused the wall of Jericho to fall if the Bible story were true? Or is this the result of an modern experiment designed to test the possibility of such a parable? Also, can you explain how mechanical resonance can cause a back wall slide down and fall on top of a front wall? The splitting of the red sea was caused when a wind faster than 63km/h blew for a certain length of time around the same areaAre you saying such a phenomenon as the splitting of the Red Sea has been observed again? If so, don't you think this is more likely to be a work of nature than God? If you are simply stating what people have decided would need to happen in order to split the Red Sea, this is not evidence either. It is simply an explanation of what would need to happen to split the Red Sea, not evidence that happened, by God's hand or not.Joshua stopping the sun - http://elmucho.wordpress.com/2010/06/19/ scientific-proof-for-joshuas-missing-day/ So...did you even read your own source? The blog author tells the story and then does an excellent job of debunking the fabrication and hunting down its origin, which makes my job a lot easier. He also laments the tendencies of his fellow Christians to believe even the stupidest anecdotes that appear to support their faith. You should read the rest of the blog and perhaps seriously contemplate his points; taking his advice would make Christians, as a whole, a far more credible group than they currently are.The contradictions that are stated in here are, unfortunately, caused due to misinterpretations and incorrect translations. For example the last words of Jesus all mean the same thing: The will of the God is done and Jesus will give up his soul to complete the work of salvationReally? A book that was written over the course of centuries, by a multitude of authors, has no chance of bearing a few genuine discrepancies? If you can confidently say that they are all the result of mere mistranslations, then surely you should be able to tell me what the correct original verses are for each example.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: No

This is a pretty biased viewpoint, what do i mean by that?Look, in the olden days, the Greeks used to say: "oh God's up there on that giant mountain that's covered by clouds". Then when someone got to the top and didn't find a golden palace they said "oh just kidding"Now Christianity started by saying "look God's just way up in the sky, in a different realm," When scientists began discovering that the world isn't the center of the universe the church didn't like that at all. Finally, we reach space and discover that there is an infinite amount of space all around us, and God doesn't seem to be anywhere there, but people who believe in God just modify their position once again: "He's in a different dimension"Let's look at the argument history now side by side Non-Believers BelieversOlden Days: Doesn't Exist On the mountainA.D Doesn't Exist In Space!Space-Age Doesn't Exist IN ANOTHER DIMENSION!!Clearly its only logical that the side that doesn't continue to modify its argument when proved wrong is the right one.And frankly, asking us to prove he doesn't exist is ridiculous. People prove he doesn't exist for millennia, and each time that they do so, the believers change their conditions for God and say "ok NOW prove he doesn't exist"when will you be satisfied?And for "Christ's sake" You can't use the BIBLE to cite your argument. It'd be like someone using a book written millennia ago about some magical being (with no evidence except their own experiences) to cite an argument PROVING that such a magical being exists.... OH WAIT
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: No

There is no evidence as to why something doesn't exist. Why don't you prove there is no invisible flying spaghetti monster? It is up to the supporter of something preposterous to come up with the evidence, not the one who doesn't believe it. If you were trying to get an invention patented, would you come up with evidence as to why your product is great, or would you do the lazy and stupid thing and force the patent officer to provide reasons as to why your invention SHOULDN'T be patented? One of the reasons he would give is that you haven't told him why your product is great.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: No

What you do NOT understand is the fact that if you claim something to be true, the burden of proof is on YOU!For instance:If I say that King Kong was roaming around my house at midnight, I need to provide proportional evidence to support that claim (Photography, etc.) because that happening is most unlikely.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: yes

Why doesn't anybody on Create Debate believe in God?! There is the pocketwatch theory, Creation, millions of people who have a relationship with him who aren't hallucinating! How else was the world made?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: No

Why doesn't anybody on Create Debate believe in God?! There is the pocketwatch theory, Creation, millions of people who have a relationship with him who aren't hallucinating! How else was the world made?You mean watchmaker proof? That's been debunked for over a century. Things that are complex, and appear designed, do not in fact need a designer if they are alive. Creationism is a myth. And millions of people are deluded. Simple really.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: No

"Creationism is a myth. And millions of people are deluded. Simple really."-AveskdeExactly. People see that billions of others believe and think, "If they all think He exists, then He must exist. They can't all be wrong." They are now a part of the masses who 'must' have some proof that God exists. The delusion that is God still exists simply because:a) The way of proving wrong claims that have no basis in fact (dismissing them) does not work with God, because theists will argue that "God is all powerful. You can't know He is there unless He wants you to." despite that this is not an argument at all.b)So many people believe and so few are able to make an educated decision that religion will not fade away any time in the near future. If everyone was well educated, we would be atheists. Unfortunately, we are not.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: The only reason people believe god exist

you teach a child to believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster he will believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. Simple as that. You teach a person from day of birth to moment of death they will believe in what ever you tell them, including God. Take a person who is neutral on the subject that is non biased and make him chose, he will most likely chose that God doesn't exist.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: yes

That's been debunked for over a century.Oh, really? That's novel. Who debunked it and didn't tell me?Things that are complex, and appear designed, do not in fact need a designer if they are alive.Really? Tell me of one.Creationism is a myth. And millions of people are deluded. Simple really.I think the same thing about evolution!
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: No

Oh, really? That's novel. Who debunked it and didn't tell me?David Hume was the earliest to contest it, however the chief way it has been debunked is through evolution by natural selection.Really? Tell me of one.I believe I just implied the answer: life. However crystals are another good example.I think the same thing about evolution!I don't really concern myself with opinions, you can also think that the earth is stationary and that heliocentricists are deluded and it wouldn't matter because both evolution and heliocentricism are established facts and theories.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: yes

David Hume was the earliest to contest it.And Hume's arguments were countered and debunked as soon as they saw the light of the day, as they were fallacious in nature.the chief way it has been debunked is through evolution by natural selection.No, it hasn't, sorry. Natural Selection has failed to prove to be able to account for all the variety that exists, and fails to explain many aspects of life. If anything, Evo-devo is now showing that natural selection alone is actually unfit to explain it. Only those that worship natural selection as their own version of the God of the Gaps argument believe that natural selection alone can account for everything alive today. Science has shown otherwise.However crystals are another good example.Really? Care to explain?I don't really concern myself with opinions,But you certainly like to hear the sound of your own voice, figuratively speaking, by stating your own opinions ("Creationism is a myth. And millions of people are deluded.").because both evolution and heliocentricism are established facts and theories.Should I remind you that so were flat earth and geocentrism, one day?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: No

No, it hasn't, sorry. Natural Selection has failed to prove to be able to account for all the variety that exists, and fails to explain many aspects of life. If anything, Evo-devo is now showing that natural selection alone is actually unfit to explain it. Only those that worship natural selection as their own version of the God of the Gaps argument believe that natural selection alone can account for everything alive today. Science has shown otherwise.I'm just getting white noise from your argument indicative of denialism.Really? Care to explain?Crystals are highly ordered, complex structures that form naturally.But you certainly like to hear the sound of your own voice, figuratively speaking, by stating your own opinions ("Creationism is a myth. And millions of people are deluded.").Both of these statements are facts.Should I remind you that so were flat earth and geocentrism, one day?You mean back in the days before science had a common practice of challenging common knowledge and was restrained by church dogma?Anyway, more denialism on your part.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: yes

I'm just getting white noise from your argument indicative of denialism.I am sure that the noise is coming from your own mouth.Crystals are highly ordered, complex structures that form naturally.Interesting. Do they form through means of evolution?Both of these statements are facts.I love your comments. They always make me smile. You have now burden of proof for both of those statements. I hope you can fulfill it.You mean back in the days before science had a common practice of challenging common knowledge and was restrained by church dogma?No. Before it happened. Before the Church had any say on this matter. Science is not really a product of modern times, you know?Can you handle the fact that one day scientists claimed that earth was flat and the earth was the center of the Universe, and that those were proven facts? You can't blame Catholic Church for the blunders of the Greek and Egyptian scientists, you know? The Church didn't even exist back then.Again, should I remind you that flat earth and geocentrism were considered facts by scientists the same way that evolution is considered a fact today?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: No

Interesting. Do they form through means of evolution?http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crystal_formation I love your comments. They always make me smile. You have now burden of proof for both of those statements. I hope you can fulfill it.http://www.skepdic.com/creation.htmlhttp://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_publi.htm Can you handle the fact that one day scientists claimed that earth was flat and the earth was the center of the Universe, and that those were proven facts? You can't blame Catholic Church for the blunders of the Greek and Egyptian scientists, you know? The Church didn't even exist back then.Except they weren't proven facts, they were models which best explained what could be seen thousands of years ago, and further the methodology of that time was not scientific as it lacked the methodology which made a falsifiable hypothesis and tested it.Again, should I remind you that flat earth and geocentrism were considered facts by scientists the same way that evolution is considered a fact today?They weren't proper scientists, they were at best professional philosophers and thinkers. However that doesn't support your central argument anyway, because besides the much higher standards for evidence and error checking, evolution is an observed, modeled, and well-understood phenomenon. You may as well be asking "Again, should I remind you that flat earth and geocentrism were considered facts by scientists the same way that gravity is considered a fact today?"However, go back to your denialism, nothing will permit you to accept your error.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: No

There is an entire study on how the world was made, and the information is available to you if you take the time to look. Also, define "hallucinating". Hallucinating is certainly not when someone doesn't have enough evidence to believe in something crazy.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: yes

just accept God exists the only reason people dont accept it is that they want to be a rebel
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: No

just accept God existsthe only reason people dont accept it is that they want to be a rebelYou can't be serious.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: yes

are you the king of atheism you've disagreed with nearly everyone on this side of the debate
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: No

are you the king of atheism you've disagreed with nearly everyone on this side of the debateUnreasonable arguments deserve criticism. Not one argument for god is reasonable, and most are quite laughable, deserving harsh ridicule for the baseless assertions they make.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: yes

Not one argument for god is reasonableQuite a bold argument for someone who hasn't shown any reasonable argument as well, as has mostly discussed semantics, and engaged in denialism so far. Can you back up your claim? I hope you can, I surely hope so. Otherwise, it will be your statements that will be laughable, after all, that would make it nothing more than baseless assertions.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: No

Quite a bold argument for someone who hasn't shown any reasonable argument as well, as has mostly discussed semantics, and engaged in denialism so far. Can you back up your claim? I hope you can, I surely hope so. Otherwise, it will be your statements that will be laughable, after all, that would make it nothing more than baseless assertions.Ah so you've proven god and won that Nobel prize, unified humanity under one true religion with a god that can be known, etc.?If not, I can't be called a denialist. Denial requires an established thing to deny. God isn't established, only belief in god is.Also it is isn't semantics when the people you argue about don't know how to use the words and concepts. You'll note how scientifically illiterate the "god side" is.http://www.godlessgeeks.com/LINKS/GodProof.htm
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: yes

Denial requires an established thing to deny. God isn't established, only belief in god is.One can deny evidence too, by stating that it is not evidence.You'll note how scientifically illiterate the "god side" is.Interesting. So you find a website with a hundred examples of a strawman argument and appeal to ridicule and call it sound reasoning?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: No

One can deny evidence too, by stating that it is not evidence.Which isn't the case with god.Interesting. So you find a website with a hundred examples of a strawman argument and appeal to ridicule and call it sound reasoning?I find it funny, actually, because a cursory look at the internet shows those aren't strawmen.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: yes

Which isn't the case with god.Why not?I find it funny, actually, because a cursory look at the internet shows those aren't strawmen.Really? Because I am sure that the internet is full of websites known for sound reasoning and critical thinking skills (e.g 4chan), and a cursory look at the internet is sure to bring forth the best ones.Or not. I am not sure. I usually think by myself. I do not let Google do the thinking for me.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: No

Why not?Because there isn't a shred of proof for god that stands up to scrutiny, so I don't have to live in constant denial of evidence, I can just sit here waiting for theists to make ONE argument that doesn't collapse in on itself.Really? Because I am sure that the internet is full of websites known for sound reasoning and critical thinking skills (e.g 4chan), and a cursory look at the internet is sure to bring forth the best ones.Or not. I am not sure. I usually think by myself. I do not let Google do the thinking for me.Did you read the "yes" section on this site's debate? Now compare it to that list. Believers argue like in that list all the time.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: No

I've been reading a few of your arguments on CreateDebate. They're moronic beyond words. Do us all a favor and get off the internet. Now.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Yes

I beg your pardon? Who are you to tell me to clear off?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: No

That is the laziest argument I have ever heard. If that is what you truly think the mindset of an Atheist is, then you are an idiot of the highest regard.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: yes

By my faith God exist. By hearing you will gain faith through the Gospel of Christ.Believing God exist is just like describing a rainbow to the blind man. Supposed I am blind and you are a good friend of mind telling me how beautiful rainbow is. with a glowing 7 colors; red, orange, yellow, green, violet, indigou and blue.Surely what you say is truth because you saw it. but i believed what you saw. No one does can proved GOD exist, unless you will experience HIM. For i have feel and experience HIS power changing my life.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: yes

What if that rainbow punched you in the face because you couldn't see it? Would you think that rainbow was deserving of praise? Just curious.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Maybe

Does a thought exist if you have one? Even if God is only a thought, or a wish that we want to be true to give us a sense of importance or that there is life after death, that is a thought and if a thought exists does that mean that there is a God?As far as God making haven and earth...well...no one I know has ever seen heaven or come back to tell me that there is a heaven.Sharon~The Baby Boomer Queen~http://www.BabyBoomerAdvisorClub.com
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: No

A thought exists as a mental content. It is the early stage in the process of forming concepts. If a thought or concept of an individual can be validated and verified by reason and logic to what it represents in reality, then it is given cognitive legitimacy. If a thought or concept is unable to fulfill these requirements, then it can only remain a notion, illegitimate concept or contradiction.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: yes

Our world is taking God out of everything and you guys expect him to make a miracle to make everything better?! If you atheists would take the time to read the bible for ONE day then you will find plenty of proof that God exists and proof that it was not written by some crack head. You atheists don't believe in God because you would rather take the easy route and do everything to please yourselves. Just give him a chance. One day!
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: yes

yes,,of course God exist!! He made all of us!!!The sky, land, animals, plants and YOU!! Believe him!!!
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: No

no why is it a he and not a she. Have anny of us seen him. If god love's us why did he let us have 2 world wars and contless other was and let us kill each other for oil and hate each other just because they dont belive in your religon. And they say death to america because you invade there contry and say that ther religon is not right. And if i said that a fish can talk and says that you will die if you dont say fish are cool would you belive that so god is not true and it was all made up
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: yes

spelling please...first let me explain... the pain and suffering is not caused by God, it is the doing of the Satan and his cronies. The reason why God didn't stop this is because he is the Lord of creator and preserver, keeper of peace; therefore if he did destroy, he will be defying his own nature. You must understand that the religion of God has been disputed world-wide through out the history of men. This is because Humans tend to misuse and abuse the title of God for their own avarice. And we must acknowledge that these men had died and got what they deserved, unless they've repented what they've done in the end. God's will is above all of our intentions, though and therefore it is not right for you to say that God doesn't exist.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: yes

I know that God is real that is all I am going to say Jesus said in the Bible that people in the world will hate you and persecute you for my name sake. I am done with this debate. Moving along.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: No

I know that God is real that is all I am going to say Jesus said in the Bible that people in the world will hate you and persecute you for my name sake. I am done with this debate. Moving along.You're not persecuted, but entering a debate with piousness and then delivering sophistry and an "I'm right kthxbai" will get you hate.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: yes

Agreed. He is pretty much the example of all that is wrong in religion. However, being stupid doesn't make his statement incorrect. Christians were, and are, in fact, persecuted in many places around the world. Doesn't really add anything to the question at hand, though.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: No

However, being stupid doesn't make his statement incorrect. Christians were, and are, in fact, persecuted in many places around the world.He isn't being persecuted however.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: yes

And your point is?First, you don't know him. He may very well be being persecuted for being a Christian. Second, he never stated that he would be persecuted, but that Christians would be, and in fact, they were and are.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: No

And your point is?First, you don't know him. He may very well be being persecuted for being a Christian.Second, he never stated that he would be persecuted, but that Christians would be, and in fact, they were and are.He was implying that we persecuted him and his colleagues in the debate, when we didn't.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: yes

He was implying that we persecuted him and his colleagues in the debate, when we didn't.No, he wasn't. His sentence was Jesus said in the Bible that people in the world will hate you and persecute you for my name sake.He never implied that he was being persecuted. You are grasping at straws here.