azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

I have denied nothing without cause and levied no allegation without substantiation. I am not surprised that you find critical thinking tedious. I have made no prideful statements and have repeatedly observed that I do not think I am better than anyone else in any way. You have identified no contradiction, only loosely alleged their existence.My arguments against the probable existence of God prove that God is probably non-existent. Your inability to refute the actual content of my arguments to that effect demonstrates that you do not know what you are talking about. I have never conceded that my views are contradictory. I have also presented them calmly and remind you that they do not derive from a rejection of your God, so your "temper tantrum" allegation is unfounded.I intend to remain a nihilist until a better philosophy presents itself. An entirely unsubstantiated delusion that you are covered in the blood of a man who died two thousand years ago for sins you cannot even prove exist and that you will therefore live forever is not a logically superior philosophy. It is not my burden to prove you wrong, although I have already presented an argument to that effect elsewhere which you never directly addressed. As the claimant, it is your burden to prove the legitimacy of your claims which you have consistently failed to do.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

Your cause is nothing but trying to justify yourself so that you are fooled into believing you have the right to exist as a sinner outside of the fire of Hell. You do have that privilege as long as God allows it, but you do not have that right. Don't be a fool forever for crying out loud. Get saved while you still can. Repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you will be saved.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

I take all points above not addressed as conceded, at which point there is really is compelling reason for me to respond further since those concessions are considerable.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

And you are sure that you have the right to exist as a sinner outside of Hell. The only thing I am conceding in matters of faith is that you will not believe being outside of Hell as a sinner is a privilege and not a right until you find yourself unable to escape from the fire. If you repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and are saved from Hell, I will concede that I was wrong on this point.I simply gave up on trying to reason with you after you repeatedly contradicted your own beliefs and refused to admit it, clinging to the notion that it does not really matter because you believe you are justified by your own existence and cannot be confined in Hell. You're a fool pretending to be intelligent, only fooling yourself and maybe fooling other fools.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

You have never indicated a single contradiction in my logic. I have already explained that I do not think I am justified in anything because I do not believe in justice. I have also already explained that I do not believe in absolute certainty, but understand things as being more or less probable. On the basis of available evidence I am entirely confident that Hell is less likely to exist than otherwise. These are not new observations, but points you have consistently failed to address. You conceded them elsewhere long ago.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

This whole diatribe is nothing but self-justification. You are contradicting yourself.I I I I I. U R lost and dying and on your way to Hell. Prove me wrong.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

And you are sure that you have the right to exist as a sinner outside of Hell. The only thing I am conceding in matters of faith is that you will not believe being outside of Hell as a sinner is a privilege and not a right until you find yourself unable to escape from the fire. If you repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and are saved from Hell, I will concede that I was wrong on this point.You are avoiding the issue. The issue is that as a sinner you do not have the right to exist outside of Hell, you have no evidence that this is untrue. The fact that you are not in Hell now is not evidence that you have the right to exist outside of Hell. You are dying in this world, and eternal dying in Hell is where you are going in your pride. Your denials won't keep you out of Hell.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

I do not need to disprove a claim which you have in no way proven to be true, although I have repeatedly presented evidence and rationale to that end which you have consistently ignored. I intend to desist from this exchange; it no longer interests me.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

I concede that you hope to un-exist in death because you hate God and cannot deal with the idea of Him ruling over you
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

I concede that you are hoping to escape reality in death, and your hope is the hope of a fool
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

That is not concession. That is (false) assumption. Which at this point, really, amounts to tacit concession of the point at large. So, well done.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

I concede that you hope to get out of reality in death, and you have no proof that you are real, and you have no proof that reality is real, and you have no proof that you have the right to live and you have no proof of having the right to exist outside of Hell. I also concede that your head is full of rocks and you are lost.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

Concede. You keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

I concede you recognize no objective standard for determining right from wrong, and therefore hold no objective meaning for anything, including the definition of "concede".
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

I concede that you believe you are an illusion, you believe that you do not deserve to die and you believe that you have the right to exist outside of Hell. I concede that you cannot be talked out of your nonsense because you say you can't be talked out of it. So I gave up.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

A'ight...
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

I don't even want to waste time with you any more. Nihilate yourself if you think it's good, that's all you are doing is killng yourself slowly and you are going to end up in Hell, idiot. For crying out loud, God loves you and you hate Him and love death and care nothing for yourself and i'm sick of trying to reach through your darkness of self-annhiliation.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

Will you stop whining? I like the way you dodged the polluted glass of water analogy...do you have a problem with the truth?
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

You will note that I neither whined, nor dodged anything. I simply asked if you were ever going to do anything other than proselytize on a debate website.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

The glass of water analogy is valid, you are dodging it, and you are whining.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

I am doing nothing of the sort. I am not engaging your comments because you previously demonstrated that you will ignore any actual response I give, and then lie about those who disagree with you. You have done so consistently before, as you have demonstrated you are not here to debate in good faith.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

Heehee... good faith.Spot on analysis though.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

will you ever stop looking like you are consumed in fire?
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

Nope. I like that picture, I find it funny.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

I disagree on many fronts. Although, a good analogy you are forgetting gods divine plan. Everything is his will. Even you. Especially me. You don't know why I am here, but I will make it apparent in years to come.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

I am so happy to hear that my disbelief in "him" is "Gods will". Now I can feel even MORE comfortable with my belief.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

I'm glad to hear it. If you're like me you're tired of these religious crackpots telling everyone they are shit and only a bible verse is good. If he exists and he scripted it all out like they claim than they can just shut their mouths because we are who we are for a reason.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

If you are tired of it, why do you read it? I don't read your posts any more beyond the first few words. Your hateful bigotry against God and against Christians and against the Bible is not worth reading except for bigoted closed minded fools like yourself.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

I don't read your posts any more beyond the first few wordsYou don't read any posts beyond the first few words. It's why your responses make no sense.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

If you are tired of it, why do you read it?Cuz part of me hopes deep down inside you'll realize that if someone doesn't want to believe in your superstitions/faith than you'll start talking to them on a real intellectual level. There are Christian people I am very fond of because their not mindless cultists demanding the belief in their views. I don't read your posts any more beyond the first few words.Oh, but you really should. You'd maybe learn a lesson about humility and compassion and righteous anger.Your hateful bigotry against God and against Christians and against the Bible is not worth reading except for bigoted closed minded fools like yourself.You think I'm closed minded? what...a...joke.... You know what... I'm going to draw you a picture and post it here on create debate. I could use a good laugh.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

You are no different than the people who crucified Jesus Christ and mocked Him while he suffered. You would do the same to me as they did to Jesus if you could. Why don't you admit it, hater?
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

Ah yes, criticizing your religion is akin to murder.How reasonable.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

You are no different than the people who crucified Jesus Christ and mocked Him while he suffered. You would do the same to me as they did to Jesus if you could. Why don't you admit it, hater?And you believe you have any right to compare yourself to your saviour? Oh man, when this picture is done. LOL
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

This is exactly what Christianity is not. You are doing nothing but hurting the side you pretend to represent. This statement is completely ridiculous, and your behavior is coming off as completely unreasonable. If you truly wish to get your message across, you are failing miserably.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

I can't help it if you hate the Truth. The message is God's message desiring that you come into agreement with Him. If you don't like it, then don't like it. They didn't like it when Jesus told them, and he said exactly the right thing in the right way to everybody he spoke to. They hated the truth and they crucified Him. You are one of those haters. I'll pass on your advice.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

I have nothing against the message that we should find truth. The thing you have to do is prove that the message you are presenting is truly Gods word. I have no reason to take your word for it. So why don't you tell me why you are so sure that the message you have is true?
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

At least you admit that your attitude is a matter of belief, a misguided but strong faith in things you don't know about.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

I was being sarcastic.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

You might want to try being honest instead of being sarcastic.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

I was being honest.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

Your will is not God's will. You act according to your own will, and God will reluctantly punish you if you will not stop your rebelling against Him. It is not God's will that you be left in Hell forever, but you give Him no choice when you insist on being against Him.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

Translation: You are good if you believe in an unfounded delusion, and bad if you do not. Right...
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

I think you are smoking too much dope.....we are all bad, all gone bad, all polluted the same as a glass of water pure and fresh with a fatal dose of poison poured in. The poison is the evil in us which brings our deserved death for the bad we have done....and now you are going to tell me you haven't done that much bad that you deserve to die the same as me? Who are you trying to fool....we are all gone bad and we all deserve to die and the proof is the poison of death from sin in our bodies killing us.For crying out loud, all I'm talking about is reality.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

Remember when I said that you simply repeat yourself over and over without ever listening to others or addressing what they say?This comment is an example of that.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

I admit that I don't listen much to what you say.....it gets tiring trying to figure out how and why you are twisting logic and putting together words with multiple mystery meanings....all of which amount to "I am justified to live". Your stuff is too illogical for me to read much of, sorry.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

I have not twisted any logic or putting together words with "multiple mystery meanings".You don't listen to anything anyone says, which is why you banned everyone from your debate. It's pathetic.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

Remember what I said when I said God loves you and is trying to save you from Hell, and sent me here to cross you path and tell you directly that he does not want you to perish?Remember??????? These words will haunt you when you remember them in your neverending death if you don't believe God to be saved from it. I've told you God's good news enough. I'm going to quit reading your stuff for a while, maybe forever. I'm sorry, I hope things change.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

Remember what I said when I said God loves you and is trying to save you from Hell, and sent me here to cross you path and tell you directly that he does not want you to perish?You have told yourself that as an excuse to yell at and insult people. It is arrogance, to claim to know God's plan.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

I don't even read your stuff any more. Maybe some other day I'll check to see if you are talking like an adult and showing some respect, but I had far too much of your nonsense.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

Don't you find it ironic at all that you are the one insulting everyone, then accusing others of not talking like adults?You have not shown anyone on this site respect, yet demand it is shown to you.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

I happen to abstain from all mind altering substances, so your ad hominem accusation is not only uncalled for but inaccurate. Might I politely suggest you abstain from dismissing my views as the side-effect of copious drug abuse? I do not think that anyone deserves to die or live anymore than I believe that good and bad exist. I try to minimize the amount of subjective interpretation I project out onto reality, and I would argue that that makes me far more in touch with reality. Your problem is not only that you assume that your worldview is singularly correct simply because you believe it, but that you continue to erroneously assume I share it at all.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

Hahaha......that's a pretty good denial of drug abuse, and I'll take it as factual and true. Thank you for your entertaining and eloquent response. I hope you will take it as good humor when I refer to your ideas and beliefs about reality as stuff that pipe dreams are made of.You think nobody deserves to live or to die? They why does everybody do both? Minimizing subjective interpretation projected out onto reality is turning you into a believer in intelligent mindlessness who can't even decide if you deserve to live or if you deserve to die even while you are under the gun being executed and have one foot in the grave and the other on thin ice melting over the fire of Hell. How can you claim to be in touch with reality if you don't even know if you deserve to live or die? You deserve to live because God brought you into existence to live, you deserve to die because you have gone against and away from Him, and you can be forgiven because He loves you and took your place in death as the Man, the Son of God, Jesus Christ and is risen from the dead offering you forgiveness if you will believe on Him and trust Him to save you from Hell. You have no hope denying this is true. Your only hope in denying God's truth is that your punishment ends in death and your dying does not continue separated from God the way you are now forever in Hell's fire.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

Referring to my views as the stuff of pipe dreams remains rather dismissive, and while I am not particularly offended by it I am also unlikely to take it in good humor.Life and death are biological processes that occur regardless of the subjective meaning we project onto them. One need not deserve to live or die in order to do so. Nor need one think that they deserve life or death to desire or be averse to either. I do not prefer living over dying because I think I deserve to live, but because I am biologically programmed to have that preference; I need no further explanation or justification for this basic evolutionary drive.Incidentally, I also do not place much value upon hope and consequentially am not motivated by it. Which is to say that attempting to persuade me on that basis will be inherently ineffectual. Trying to understand my views in terms of what I hope for will also be rather miserly in its returns.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

You do not understand my views, as evidenced by your continued claim that they are derived from a rejection of your beliefs. As I have repeatedly explained, my rejection of your beliefs is purely incidental to my independently derived philosophy of nihilism. Every single objection you have against my perspective is a misguided conclusion based upon your fundamental misconception in this regard. Meanwhile, your own religious beliefs remain entirely unsubstantiated since no amount of reiteration of circular reasoning makes your claims any less fallible. It is not at all unreasonable for me to not adopt your views when you can provide me with no logical defense of those views.You indicated elsewhere that you are no longer interested in engaging with me at this time. I confess that I too am disinterested in continuing in this exchange. Frankly, I do not think you are capable of grasping my views since you quite clearly have a preconception of what they are and why I hold them; it is increasingly evident that no amount of clarification on my part can ameliorate your determination to cling to those misunderstandings.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

It was too sad for a while when I realized what you are doing to yourself with your beliefs. I fully understand your beliefs...they really are simple. Your problem is not accepting or rejecting my beliefs, your problem is that you love your sin and sinning more than you love life and it's taking you down in death to Hell. You are against God and that is sin...all your whole life is, is sin and God is going to get tired of you and let you have it if you wont' repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ who conquered death, rose bodily from the dead, and is coming back to rule the world and purge sin (which is in my body and me) and sinners (which is all you are) out of His Creation forever.You bore me with your pseudo-intellectual gibberish. I really feel sorry for you, but there are billions like you in the world and some have enough sense to listen to God calling for them repent and believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved from Hell......those are the ones I'm looking for. Time is too short to read your nonsensical false hope of self-annihilation in your tragedy of flawed logic. The nihilism you think is good is only the fire of Hell forever depriving you of everything good that God gave you. You are loving it and making a tragic mistake. I hope you wake up before you wake up in Hell.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

If you understood my views then you would not believe that they come from a rejection of your beliefs. That you do assume that my views revolve around your beliefs marks you as egotistical. That you pity me for not adopting those beliefs, which you cannot prove, speaks to this as well. Your confidence in your beliefs far exceeds the proof and rationale you have to warrant them; you believe completely in something you cannot prove at all. Small wonder that you cannot think logically on these matters; reason is anathema to any belief so lacking in evidence. You clearly need religion in order to find value and purpose in your life, and I would not wish it away from you. Nor will I pity you either; I have no need to validate my views or pride in that way.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: bad

sidenote....alcohol is a mind altering substance..do you abstain from that also? Pardon me from implying you were smoking dope. I have known some serious potheads who thought and talked exactly like you have been talking here...and some of them are still my friends and I tell them the same things I am trying to tell you.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

I do abstain from alcohol. I should also clarify that I do not think that either alcohol or marijuana consumption inherently invalidate one's views. I am also not surprised that you have friends who differ in their views from you; I do as well.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

Duh...did you miss the part about the polluted glass of water? Is that too unclear for you? It's truthful and you would do well to be honest about it. We are all bad, all polluted, none good. I never said I was good, did I? Try to stick to facts, please.
Debate: Is human nature naturally good or bad
Side: good

Poor word choice; polluted water is notoriously unclear. Tongue and cheek aside, however...I did read the metaphor for your still unfounded belief system; constructing an analogy for your beliefs is just rephrasing the same belief in different terms without adding anything of substantive value. A metaphor falls well short of any standard of proof, so there is nothing for me to be denying beyond your unfounded assertion; that happens to be something I am quite comfortable doing.Regarding your views on sin they do effectively culminate in a moral hierarchy of damned and saved people, even if they rest upon an assumption of inherent sin. The implication is quite clearly one of superiority over the non-religious, even if you would not put it in those terms.