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Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

Cult or not a cult, they're still Christian. All denominations of Christianity change some things around, Westboro is just incredibly radical.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

Does translation from Aramaic, Hebrew and Greek into English count as change??
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

Let's look at the definition of translation really quick."A written or spoken rendering of the meaning of a word, speech, book, or other text, in another language." Doesn't sound much like your "change," now does it?Mormons believe pretty much that God's an alien and all of the Bible is false.WBS believes that we are the ones who can do the judging, instead of God.Also, in response to your other posts, I've been researching a bunch about evolution and God. I've come to the conclusion that creationism makes more sense than theistic evolution. I mean, evolution's just based on one man's theory. Why should I be a follower of man as opposed to God? answersingenesis.com has a lot of articles that have led me to this conclusion.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

Doesn't sound much like your "change," now does it?Endeavoring to learn a new language might give you a better perspective on the ways that a translation is an imperfect representation of, and is therefore a change from, the original. Certain words, especially those with double meanings, are extremely difficult to translate - sometimes a word is used in the original text because of its multiple meanings (puns, etc.) which cannot be conveyed via a translation into the new language. Additionally, there are idioms and other cultural uses of language that the translators, separated by culture, time, etc., would not be able to precisely translate in a way that articulates the full meaning of the original.Mormons believe pretty much that God's an alien and all of the Bible is false.That is incorrect - Mormons believe in both the old and new testaments.WBS believes that we are the ones who can do the judging, instead of GodAs do many other Christians - refevolution's just based on one man's theory.Incorrect. Evolution is based on evidence ref refDoes belief in creationism have the predictive success that evolution does?answersingenesis.com has a lot of articles that have led me to this conclusion.Most of the claims by answersingenesis and others have a counter here - if you don't find an adequate response for any claim that you believe is persuasive, you should post it here.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

Which texts? What are the distinguishing factors between texts whose followers are cults and texts whose followers are not cults?Mormons believe that the Messiah has come (ref) - so why are they a cult in your opinion?If Jews think Christians are cults, are they wrong - or is your religion only not a cult because it is your religion and is therefore only perception?
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

"A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.""A relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister."I guess it's all relative.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

"A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object."What part of that definition for cult excludes what you believe in?"A relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister."How big is 'relatively small'? There are about 15 million Mormons - is that small? What number (x) do you believe represents the threshold where x number of believers makes a cult, but x+1 number of believers makes the word of God?
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

Anyone who thinks the Bible is true clearly isn't intelligent enough to be on this site. Of course it's not true. And most of it is outrageous and homophobic and incestous.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

You think illogically. If you were intelligent, you would understand the science behind why people shouldn't be homosexual, and understand how a God would feel about someone being homosexual. I don't think He'd like it. He creates a woman for Man, and Man wants a guy? I don't think that'd go over very well.  So, how would it be outrageous that a God who has ultimate power to do anything? God's definition would be that He can do anything. Also, about your incestuous comment. When the population is the size as it was then, it is semi-hard to avoid incest. So, now you have the burden of proof: Why is it of course that the Bible is not true?
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

Also, I want to point out that I'm not a homophobe. I just don't think that God would like homosexuality.Also want to point out that right now, if anyone has sex, it is technically incest. It is impossible that the human race came from more than two of the same species. So, we are all descendants of those two. We're all related.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

It is impossible that the human race came from more than two of the same species.With evolution it could at least be our extended cousins rather than mandatorily having sex with our sisters as Cain and Seth must have done. (Noah's family would be required to have sex with either their siblings or their 1st cousins.)Note that it is not necessarily "two of the same species", it would generally be one individual that had a gene mutation and that individual could have had multiple sex partners. Ah, the good old days...Also, it would not be impossible for environmental factors to result in similar germline mutations among multiple individuals of a species.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

I don't think He'd like it.I believe you would agree that the bible asserts that everyone is a sinner.He creates a woman for Manfrom Genesis 2:God says, "It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him."Then God makes all of the animals.A suitable helper for Adam was not found so God makes woman...Do you think God was ok giving man all the animals to fulfill the role of woman, but that not that it's ok for a man to love another man?
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

Well, obviously God didn't give man the animals in that way. It says right there: A suitable helper. Not sex partner. Also, later on in Leviticus, it says the punishments for certain sins. Whoever I disputed earlier about homosexuality and incest said that God was okay with incest. You say that God was okay with bestiality. Both are sins, according to Leviticus. I believe these rules are also described somewhere else.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

If you were intelligent, you would understand the science behind why people shouldn't be homosexualWhat explanation would you give for examples of homosexuality among non-humans?
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

Examples, please? From what I have seen, it does not happen that often. And if it does, maybe there is a mutated gene that causes this. However, just because a gene can cause more attraction to the opposite sex does not mean that a being is necessarily born homosexual.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

Not born homosexual, just has the temptation more than others.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

At what age did you chose to become hetrosexual?
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

Probably when I saw my parents together as a couple. In fact, homosexuals never even existed in my head until I learnt that my step-grandfather was indeed not living with a man just because they were friends. So, I must have been born with the gene that gives me more attraction to females.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

There is more than just a genetic component, but I think we are agreeing that for most people the sex to which they are attracted to is not a conscious choice, correct?
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

Wikipedia has compiled a list of known examplesSee also:"To turn the approach on its head: No species has been found in which homosexual behaviour has not been shown to exist, with the exception of species that never have sex at all, such as sea urchins and aphis. Moreover, a part of the animal kingdom is hermaphroditic, truly bisexual. For them, homosexuality is not an issue."http://www.news-medical.net/news/2006/10/23/20718.aspx  (page 2)
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

Okay, yeah I researched and found that you are right. However, like I said, there is no gene which can alter that completely. It would only make an individual more attracted to the same gender. Or maybe it doesn't. Maybe the animals are just confused. They are just animals, right? Not sentient.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

Dolphins are somewhat sapient. They have been shown to name each other, and they respond to their names, even when they are called by a dolphin they are unfamiliar with.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

But... Not completely sentient. Not able to think as logically as us.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

Not to the same extent as us, such as debating with each other and handling abstract concepts such as death and afterlife... Yet ;)
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

Yet? I am pretty sure that this would be detrimental to a dolphin, and not as helpful as it would seem. I don't think natural selection would allow for this. However, synthetic selection would.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

What, sapience? How would that be detrimental to them?
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

I actually don't know. I don't think it would be beneficial to them. Yeah, they could become a society, but... Does that help?
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

It would help them. Look at humans! We have no natural predators, seriously, the only threat is other humans.If dolphins became sapient, would you give them the same rights as humans?
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

Well, the theory of natural selection kinda says that this would take a loooong time. So, if humanity's still around, I guess we would. However, the dolphins could become hostile. We wouldn't be able to communicate, at least at first, as our vocal systems are entirely different. Also, if they evolved more, it would be adapting to their environment. So, they'd probably not be up on land...
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

Well, the theory of natural selection kinda says that this would take a loooong time. So, if humanity's still around, I guess we would.Well, dolphins are almost fully sapient at this point, considering they have a primitive language.However, the dolphins could become hostile.If you took a baby caveman and raised him as a normal kid, your wouldn't notice the slightest difference aside from more body hair. Same for dolphins, in fact, I think we should help them so they don't make all the mistakes we did.Also, if they evolved more, it would be adapting to their environment.Humans also evolved to adapt to their environment while developing sentience, which actually takes a surprisingly short amount if time. With help, it could take about a century.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

The bible is about 97% myth using historical history as its backdrop. The flood, god killing the entire world, the Egyptians and the plagues and the entire list goes on. If a man named Jesus went to any Church today and kicked out or harassed the bingo game players or carnival goers, he would be branded as a terrorist and confined to prison for 20 years.If you tell a Christian that Jesus swallowed the whale, they would believe that too!
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

hevan and hell are both made for "gods" pleasure it says in heaven there will not be things for man to pleasure us tht we must be selfless because were there to do nothing but praise o wat an amazing reward right well anyways and then hell is where he sends all the creations he didnt like to be cursed tormented and pained because most of them had either too much understanding or not enough for his liking i dont believe in the bible but tht god sounds messed up and very conceited i mean my child will never be punished for ignorance :) especially not eternally which was a lie as well because in revelations it says after the devil rules for a thousand years and heaven rules for a thousand years god will renew the world and start things over again giving all souls another chance so theres another contradiction for all u bible lovers
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

First: I know this is kinda rude, but could you please use better grammar?Second: God created Man. Satan, one of God's angels, did not like this and decided to go against God and tempt Man. So, God created a place for Satan to reside, as God cannot be around unholiness(described in many books, especially when the Israelites were with God while wandering). Now, Satan resides in Hell now. And He gets the unholy souls when they die. Why? Because God cannot be with them. Not because God is conceited and punishes ignorance. In fact, I don't know what happens to ignorant people who have never heard the Gospel. Now, about your "contradiction": I think what happens there is that after God renews the Earth, Satan lost control of the world. This means that there is no longer sin, and only holiness. Maybe he still has control over Hell, but nothing else. In that case it is eternal. carm.org has a good article on this, as well as many of the other "contradictions" that you guys have thought to exist.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

Dudes Bible is freaking false. Many of the Bibles stories comes from Egyptian and Greek Mythology. Then the Messiah story is the Same story as Horus and Hercules. To top it off the main Hero and Villains doesn't have specific names. The God is called God. Doesn't even have a name. That's the same thing as a 7 year old making a superhero called "Hero". Then their devil is called devil. Same thing as a Villain called Villain. Also if God is so good, why does he hates Gays. The Bible was written by a Homophobe. It says that a man Being gay is a sin, but why doesn't it say anything about lesbians. If god hates Homosexuality, why did he make bonobos who are are naturally and born bisexual.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

If you actually researched, as I have, you would realize that the stories in the Bible actually DO NOT come from a bunch of other religions. (Hercules? Really? Research a little.) Besides, calling a god God is actually more powerful than another name. It implies that this is the real God. You must not have read any of the New Testament. In the Old Testament, God defines sin and the punishment for sin. All sin is the same to Him. Even though He hates sin, He hates no man. In fact, the Devil probably hates gays. Not God. God gave His Son so that the people who have sinned could be with Him in Heaven, and not be punished for their sins.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

In the Bible, God says that if we pray in Jesus's name, our prayer shall come true without any restrictions whatsoever. Yet, some prayers never even come true.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

Even though it is the most famous book, it's also the most inaccurate. All the stories sounds like it came from a child's imagination. Science disproves all the Bullshit that the bible feeds into the minds. One word, EVOLUTION!!!
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

I know for sure the bible is written by normal people, I'm not going to force anyone to believe it, but I don't believe in the whole idea of christianity- just because it seems ridiculous to me. I don't think the people who do are christians are stupid, no, most of the time they are very loving people (as long as they leave others alone in their beliefs).Most of the things in the bible seem stupid to me and that's the main reason.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

The bible is FALSE. Here is just one example of many:Noah's Ark, is an impossibility. First off there were supposedly 7 pairs of clean and 2 pairs of unclean animals on the ark. Ask a ship builder, giving them the dimensions stated for the ark in the bible and they would tell you that with all those animals on board, the ship would have capsized. There was NO possible way to fit all those animals on the ark.Secondly talk to a vet or a person in animal husbandry. The fumes alone from all the urine would have killed Noah and his family. Ammonia is one of the most deadly, toxic fumes known to man. The amount of the ammonia fumes alone would have killed the family. Then you have the manure. That the fumes from this would have blown up the ship. See there was NO electricity on the supposed ark, they would have had to use torches, open flame to light their way. Think of Timothy McVeigh and what happened in Oklahoma? That was in effect a manure bomb, and the same kind of explosion that happened there would have happened on that ark.Next you have the feeding of all these animals to overcome. There was no Walmart, there was no Blue service. How would you feed all these animals for the supposed 40 days and nights it rained, let alone all that time they waited for the waters to recede? Also logically, how do you keep the animals from eating each other?Now you also have the problem of the dove returning with the olive branch. The world was supposedly flooded out. The plants would have been completely crushed under the weight of all that water. It would have also been salt water, which would have killed off all plants on the dry earth, because these plants are not designed to survive in such a salty way. So how the heck could the dove bring back an olive branch?
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

The Bible contains SOME things which are true (indeed there is a blend of history and culture and identities of people who actually lived). And there are good lessons in many of the parables of the Bible. But it is neither absolute in its truth or direct from the mouth of a God:1) It has many authors, all human. Some probably inauthentic (by ghost writers, or teams of believers)2) It demonstrates the legal, ethical, and cultural biases from the times of those authors. Not all those past practices or beliefs are relevant to modern society.3) It has many versions, from different translations to books included or dropped depending on the branch of religion referencing it.4) None of the New Testament was directly written or narrated by Jesus Christ himself. I'll expand more on this below.5) All the miracles are heresay. 6) The claims of virgin birth and rising from the dead are by eyewitnesses within the religion who had vested interests in promoting such claims.Going back to #4 - The New Testament scriptures were not written the moment after Christ died. They were spread over many years, allegedly by his apostles though we can't really prove all were, and they have a tone of believe or you'll be sorry because both those apostles and the fledgling church were being persecuted to stamp them out. And when you consider that even in a highly literate society like ours today the ability of people to directly recall exactly what was said in a conversation years ago is bogus at best. If 10 years from now both the pro and con writers on this debate were asked to recall from memory exactly what had been written we would all have dramatically different accounts of the discussion, of what actually was said, and what the take away message was. Yet, when a jailed apostle writes such an account years after Christ's death the literalists take every word as verbatim exactly what was said and happened and are ready to shape their entire modern existence around as little as one sentence from that apostle. That's incredibly naive.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

He obviously just had a twin brother that was cleverly left out of the story.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

Did you get that idea from a religion, or did you make it up? If you made it up, then it could be false. If you got it from a religion, then how do you know the religion is true? It could be false!
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

Everything is "made up"; therefore everything could be false.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

Everything isn't just "made up." The world was made. BY SOMEONE. It wasn't just made up. YOU were made.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

Everything people learn in school everyday could be false! so what's the point of sending children to a place 5 days a week where they could just being fed a pack of lies? What if it's all made up? You have to Believe!
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

The world was made.Exactly, it was made up.  Words were made up. Books were made up, cars were made up, but we don't know if any of this is real! It could Be false.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

Intangible. Do you have a wife? If no, then let's just say you do. Then your basically saying that your wife, that you love and care for, could be fake. Your own life could be fake. That's just totally preposterous!
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

Are you disputing your fear, or your truth? The truth even if scary remains as the truth. Rather than stating hypothetical fears, state what makes it the truth.
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

Explain why it is so preposterous?
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

don't feel agitated... the debater down votes every person who disagrees. It's frustrating but keep firm with your beliefs...
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

If you got it from a religion, then how do you know the religion is true? It could be falseTHANK YOU. Right from the horse's mouth too. Ask yourself this same question buddy and suddenly us unbelievers (who still somewho believe) wont look so strange and deluded
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is True

Ha Ha if this was a boxing match the referee would stop it , I never laughed so much there arguments are ridiculous nice trap my friend .
Debate: Bible Is True - vs. - Bible Is False
Side: Bible Is False

ANOTHER THING:I know A TON of stories where people have tried everything: money, drugs, girls, everything in the "fast life." Eventually, that person's life fell apart, and the 'said' person of story even tried going to different churches: catholic, greek orthodox, all that stuff. BUT none of it made his life right and the 'said' person still felt hopeless. BUT what did they eventually turn to? GOD!! CHRISTIANITY!! I haven't heard even ONE story where someone's life was hopeless, and they turned to, say, Catholicism and they were happy again!