azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Obama
Side: Pro obama

We've been through this a million times and you have yet to show how any democrat past or present is a socialist. I think you have turrets.
Debate: Obama
Side: Anti Obama

Know what else we been through a million times, Liberals claiming that Republicans are greedy capitalists who only curtail to the rich and powerful. I think you have turrets. Fun game by the way.
Debate: Obama
Side: Pro obama

No, I claim over and over that Republican representatives dress the policies of greedy oil and insurance overloads in populist talking points like "global warming is made up", "drill baby drill", and "oversite is socialism" and trick silly bastards like yourself into voting one step closer to the caste system of have and have nots which is the ultimate inescapable conclusion of any purely capitalist society. Unfortunately it is harder to explain. Yahoos only understand bumper sticker talk - hence Palin is the front runner in GOP polling right now.
Debate: Obama
Side: Anti Obama

I claim over and over that Republican representatives dress the policies of greedy oil and insurance overloads in populist talking points like "global warming is made up", "drill baby drill", and "oversite is socialism"I claim over and over that Democrat representatives dress the polices of health care and business with talking points like public duty and responsibility and equality.and trick silly bastards like yourself into voting one step closer to the caste system of have and have nots which is the ultimate inescapable conclusion of any purely capitalist society.Republicans haven't trick me into anything. They are idiots. I am for personal freedom.I don't vote Republican. Well, I did vote for Ron Paul. That is it.Unfortunately it is harder to explain. If to hard to explain, then there is probably really nothing to explain.Yahoos only understand bumper sticker talk - hence Palin is the front runner in GOP polling right now.Luckily, I am not one of those.
Debate: Obama
Side: Anti Obama

"Obama was elected because he had a better message"yeah people only listened to him 'cause he was black they dont listen to normal politicians"He won by a lot, way more than 17% and you realize black people only make up around 17% of the population right?"he didnt represent black people he represented all non-whites
Debate: Obama
Side: Pro obama

Bill Clinton won approximately the same percentage of white voters... did they only vote for Bill Clinton because he's black?Face it Axmeister, as much as you want to blame the black man, as much as you want to wallow in your dilusion of white oppression, as much as you would like to obsess over race and blame it for this or that or an election, the fact is race had nothing to do with it.The fact is a black man is president because he was the best candidate, and right now he is doing much better than McCain could have done.Now go cry yourself to sleep over your hurt white pride.
Debate: Obama
Side: Anti Obama

to be honest i dont give a damn about colour i just want an excuse to hate the american president
Debate: Obama
Side: Anti Obama

the media decide everything thats involves the majority of the population .
Debate: Obama
Side: Pro obama

and if McCain didn't disagree with every position he's ever had(path to citizenship, border fence, bailouts, cap and trade, campaign finance, etc.)
Debate: Obama
Side: Anti Obama

HE IS SPENDING A CRAP LOAD OF MONEY AND WE ARE ALL GOING BROKE. IF YOU WANT TO LEARN HOW TO FIX IT LOOK UP THE UNKOWN DEPRESION OR FORGOTTEN DEPRESSION. IT'S WAS A PRES THAT WAS A LOT LIKE OBAMA AND COMPLETELY RUINED OUR ECONOMY, THE NEXT PRES COMPLETELY CUT GOVERNMENT SPENDING AND THE ECONOMY WAS BETTER BEFORE HIS PRESIDENCY WAS OVER!!!!!!!
Debate: Obama
Side: Pro obama

Just cuz some guy told Glenn Beck what he wanted to hear doesn't make it so.It takes the same ignorance to say that the recession of 1920 had nothing to do with the war ending and establishment of the Federal Reserve, etc. as it does to not realize the previous administration's contribution to our current economic predicament."On March 4, 1921 President Harding assumed office while the nation was in the midst of a postwar economic decline, known as the Depression of 1920-21. By summer of his first year in office, after a series of actions by the Federal Reserve to lower interest rates, an economic recovery was underway. After the recession, starting in 1922, Harding cut taxes. The top marginal rate was reduced annually in four stages from 73% in 1921 to 25% in 1925. Taxes were cut for lower incomes starting in 1923. Despite these policies, the economy entered recession in May 1923 and remained in recession into the next presidency, through July 1924. Thomas E. Woods, however, contends in the Fall 2009 issue of The International Review, that the tax cuts implemented by President Harding ended the Depression of 1920-21 and were responsible for creating a decade-long expansion. In fact, there were three recessions in the 1920s prior to the Great Depression and the rate of recovery was slower than during the Great Depression."
Debate: Obama
Side: Anti Obama

He hasn't really done much, except for spend money that we don't have and talk a lot. In fact, I'd say he's kind of like a real housewife of NJ because he loves to "shop" and talk. ;)And yes, I can say that because I'm from NJ. lol just kidding, anyone can mock them.
Debate: Obama
Side: Anti Obama

i believed him obama in his first year but now my approvel of him is dropping
Debate: Obama
Side: Anti Obama

At first, i saw Obama as a good choice. He seemed to know what he was talking about, and made some good proposals. What he failed to do however, was live up to those proposals. After claiming he was going to shut down Guantanamo Bay ( which contains potentially innocent people) years later, it is still open for business. I think this sheds light on the man, and proves that he is no more like the next man. Simply greedy for power.
Debate: Obama
Side: Anti Obama

Obama is gonna turn America into the USSA United Socialist States Americaor the LSA Liberal States America.There is not an ounce of capitalism or freedom in him.
Debate: Obama
Side: Pro obama

Obama is gonna turn America into the USSA United Socialist States AmericaHow?There is not an ounce of capitalism or freedom in him.Why do you say this?
Debate: Obama
Side: Anti Obama

"Why do you say this?"And I quote:Obama: "If you got a business......you didn't build that."
Debate: Obama
Side: Pro obama

Yawn."There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me — because they want to give something back. They know they didn’t — look, if you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something — there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there. (Applause.)If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires.So we say to ourselves, ever since the founding of this country, you know what, there are some things we do better together. That’s how we funded the GI Bill. That’s how we created the middle class. That’s how we built the Golden Gate Bridge or the Hoover Dam. That’s how we invented the Internet. That’s how we sent a man to the moon. We rise or fall together as one nation and as one people, and that’s the reason I’m running for President — because I still believe in that idea. You’re not on your own, we’re in this together."If you've got it in your head that it's possible to be prosperous in America independent of public help, then you're deluded, and I've got no time for indulging delusional people. If your response - whether it's made public or held private - isn't anything but, "I made a mistake in quoting Obama out of context," I've got no time for you either. You can take your bullshit elsewhere.
Debate: Obama
Side: Pro obama

I wish there was not an ounce of capitalism in him but freedom does not equate capitalism. Communism also guarantees freedom.
Debate: Obama
Side: Anti Obama

obama only won because of all the people in the ghetoo who normally dont care about the election voted for him just cause....hes...kinda black. yep KINDA black. i hope he cancels the welfare system so that all of those people know what a dub mistake they have made. hes been in office for a couple years now and he hasnt done sht.
Debate: Obama
Side: Anti Obama

obama is pushing socialism like you wouldn't believe. obama is spending more than you know how to count up to. obama is a bad choice. Who cares if he is black. That is not the issue. obama is destroying what america stands for.
Debate: Obama
Side: Not horrible but yeah pretty bad

You can't just blame EVERYTHING on Obama.I mean, think about all the other shit presidents we had in the past like Ronald Reagan, George Bush, and Nixon;I'm not defending him and I'm not saying he's good but he could step it up, and not to mention the Health Care Bill.
Debate: Obama
Side: Anti Obama

Obama sucks he lead the usa to its destruction. Our situation is worse than the government let's us know, we are closer to WWIII than they say also
Debate: Obama
Side: Anti Obama

Obama hasn't done ANYTHING to help this country! All he's done this entire term is play Nintendo Wii (as much as I love video games) and go on vacations!
Debate: Obama
Side: Anti Obama

Obama is a liberal black socialist and the media will not speak against him because they cater to the blacks.He wants this country to be a welfare state.The black vote will go his way because they would rather get things for free than to WORK!These people are a scourge on society and I wish they would quit reproducing their filth.I'm tired of paying to raise them!
Debate: Obama
Side: Anti Obama

Wow... we are on a bad-president steak ever since the 1990's.
Debate: Obama
Side: Anti Obama

obama blows AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Debate: Obama
Side: Anti Obama

For nothing else alone, I dislike Obama simply because he canceled the back to the moon program.
Debate: Obama
Side: Pro obama

Conservative's didn't like it when Bush proposed it, but now hate Obama for stating the reality that it wasn't funded. http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/space/01/14/bush.opposition/index.html He still increases NASA's budget, tries to encourage privatized space flight (just like any commie socialist would), is spending to maintain the International space center and focusing on research for landing on Mars and asteroids
Debate: Obama
Side: Anti Obama

OK I DONT KNOW WHERE MY ORIGINAL COMMENT OF THIS SATEMENT IS (someone probably deleted it) But some noob(probably with puppet accounts)(also probably an ally of qymosabi) is downvoting all the anti-obamas and upvoting all the pro-obamas
Debate: Obama
Side: Pro obama

it is over on the left side under the Obama = Hitler argument
Debate: Obama
Side: Anti Obama

thanks i thought i lost it :D
Debate: Obama
Side: Anti Obama

I am anti Obama, he is a socialist who might even be a communist. He is pro liberal and all the crap that I am not. I am a capitalist by the way.By the way Liberals arnt what they use to be. Theyre making laws! Of all people!
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

That is the problem with our world... instead of seeking a job based on interest and passion, we seek jobs based on the wealth that can be earned." I see your point but it is flawed. There are jobs that are not fun at all, but still have to be done. In a capitalist country, the incentive for doing those hard job is higher wages, but in a socialist country, there is no incentive for those jobs. Also, if everyone wanted to work, your theory might work, but the mentality of most is to do just enough to get by, but in a socialist country, doing just enough to get by can be doing very little, yet making the same as someone doing very much which is not right if you ask me. Also, in a capitalist society, you can make your passions work out for you in the end, it just takes hard work. Which is why the majority of people in America are not very wealthy. They are lazy. And to introduce an ideology of giving people more money for working less, then America would crumble with the lazy society we have now. Yes, there are certain jobs such as manual labor which don't pay as much as more of a mental job and may be more labor, but it's only because brains are better than brawn. It all boils down to the simple fact that in a capitalist society, if you work hard with anything (even if it's something you love), you can make quite a bit of money off of it. In a socialist or communist society, all it does is breed laziness because those who do not work as hard get paid as much as those who do. I challenge one person. Just one to give me one thing you love that can't or hasn't made a lot of money in America!
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

Yes he is socialist...yes we can come back but we have to stop the political correctness and start doing what is best for our children and grand children and not what is best for the rest of the world.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

What does political correctness have to do with socialism? What does political correctness have to do with Obama? And what does foreign policy have to do with socialism?It sounds to me like you're angry but you don't know why and are just flailing around in random directions.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

Why the barbs man? My son just read the post and commented that he thought this was CreateDebat not CreateInsult!In that spirit I am going to refrain from any insults.On to my response.It has nothing to do with socialism. But question was not about socialism. It was Obama and socialism". It has to do with the fact that people are afraid to or just plain don't call a duck a duck anymore and that is political correctness!A socialist is a socialist...plain and simple. Any denial by Obama and his supporters is spin designed to cover his tracks.One does not have to listen to what Obama or his opponents say, or to liberal/conservative spin, but to look at what he has tried to do. Personally I say "try" because in my opinion, he has yet to accomplish one productive thing.Angry? You bet and I know exactly why.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

It has to do with the fact that people are afraid to or just plain don't call a duck a duck anymore and that is political correctness!Part of the problem is that most people, you included, don't seem to know what socialism is. I would argue that the American perspective was retarded by an encounter with a post October Revolution dictatorship--a continuum of them at that. Unless you've read socialist literature and have come into contact with its philosophy and theory, I can't be expected to take your non-politically correct rhetoric seriously. You might call a duck a "duck", and that's fine as long as you're looking at a duck.But if you've never seen a duck before, and are calling a brace, a gaggle, then you need to learn some humility and recognize your ignorance. It's somewhat disingenuous to call Obama a socialist when the Socialists don't call Obama a socialist. In fact, his policies, while not antithetical to socialism, aren't socialist policies. It's as simple as that.Any denial by Obama and his supporters is spin designed to cover his tracks.And you're just poisoning the well in an attempt to mask the fact that you've lodged an allegation with literally no evidentiary support beyond your opinion.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

OK. Lets do this. Based on your posts most of us dont know what a socialist is.Your a self professed socialist. Instead of insults, educate us. In your opinion what is a socialist? Please, for interest of time and space, dont write a book. Stick to the basics.And while you are at it...if Obama is not a socialist based on your socialist guidelines...what is he?Also notice I didnt insult you, demean you, or or vote you down just because I disagree with you. Lets try to keep this on the high road.Looking forward to your response.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

Instead of insults, educate us.Government (as an institution) is an antagonizing force--it is either non-existent or extremely limited, depending on who you read. It's why socialism and communism are called the next step to (classical) anarchy. Capital is antagonizing (Marx explicitly, implicit in most other literature as it is absent in nearly all Utopian societies). Both capital and government restrain what Marx called the battle of Democracy. And in some real sense, socialism, as a utopian project, seeks to enlighten and liberate people from self imposed history and systems of discipline.Little or no private property (Marge Piercy, Plato, Michel de Montaigne, Karl Marx, Thomas Moore sees it as an antagonizing force, William Morris). And that isn't to say that someone else owns your property--that would contradict the point. Individual responsibility for the collective good (all socialists). The most commonly known is dialectic materialism: the struggle between classes and the attempt to ultimately moot the class system (the proletariat vs the Bourgeoisie in Marx and Lenin, the Captains of industry vs the worker in John Ruskin's literature, the colonists vs the corporations in Stanley Robinson).Obama is not a socialist based on your socialist guidelines...what is he?What is he? Why does he have to be anything? He ran on a Democratic ticket, he has instituted some basic Kenseyan economic policies, which makes him a capitalist for the most part. He is a left-leaning centrist, has maintained most official policies from preceding administrations, removing only a few. But, I ask again, why does he have to be anything specific? Is anyone ever completely conservative or liberal? Is everyone always a socialist or a capitalist? Is politics only dichotomous
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

Barbs and insults happen when people can't win a discussion with intelligent ideas. It just means they have no basis to win a debate on truth or logic or history so they attack to get people off track of the topic. The truth is Obama is a socialist by definition. Choose your dictionary or historical reference.[quote]It's somewhat disingenuous to call Obama a socialist when the Socialists don't call Obama a socialist. In fact, his policies, while not antithetical to socialism, aren't socialist policies. It's as simple as that.[/quote]Not really, Carl Mark said he wasn't a Marxist. His words, not mine. You haven't given evidence of why Obama isn't a socialist, you just claim that he is not. There is a difference there. The proof of his socialist activities lay in his administrative actions; IE: spreading the wealth, for one. From the Wikipedia definition of Socialism "Most socialists share the view that capitalism unfairly concentrates power and wealth among a small segment of society that controls capital and derives its wealth through exploitation..." This is Obama's view, one that that was emphasized during a conversation with Joe Wurzelbacher in 2008 where Obama said to him "...I think when you spread the wealth around, it’s good for everybody." The discussion was about Joe buying a business where he would be taxed heavily based on his income.In this case I point to the words of Thomas Jefferson “A wise and frugal government … shall restrain men from injuring one another, shall leave them otherwise free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and improvement, and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned. This is the sum of good government.”-Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address, March 4, 1801.To that end: Where capitalism is not established, you basically have a feudalistic or totalitarian society. Socialism has never been provided by a feudal or totalitarian government. Revolution never moves a population towards socialism, but toward independence and freedom. Capitalism has, also, never been provided in a feudal or totalitarian society and can only come about after freedom and independence has been won. Therefore, socialism, as we know it, can only come about after capitalism has been established. Once capitalism is destroyed, socialism can not be maintained because the government does not generate a profit. Totalitarianism is the end result and can only be overcome by revolution so we start all over again.Now, if you have something more than just your opinion, go ahead, but you have nothing other than your own words. Guaranteed, I can counter rhetoric with Obama's own words and the definitions of history and literature. I would be glad to entertain some actual facts on why Obama is not a socialist by definition. In actuality, this duck is a duck and this is not the "Change" you are looking for.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

Political correctness allows anti-American groups to grow and do harm to Americans. It allows for complacency which leads to weakness and prevents laws from being enforced to protect Americans; essentially eliminating liberties. Obama has himself been guilty of promoting racism which is ironic since America voted for a black president. When Obama has applauded the socialist dictators of Latin America he is espousing socialism for America especially since his agenda is not merely suspiciously socialistic. Of course the majority of America is angry. His agenda is unconstitutional. I used to vote Democrat for 32 years until this president. If you can't see the relationship between the two or have any pride in your country's history perhaps, you should read, "The 5000 Year Leap" which will give you a clear comprehension of what our founders went through to create an ideal government system. I also suggest you look outside your leftist leanings for information. The facts are out there, I found them a few months ago and that is why I am no longer a Democrat. Take a look at the people he's surrounded himself with, people who think alike hang together. He's definitely a socialist and trying to push our country into financial hell. He admitted that the private sector was key to putting people back to work yet, he's bent on spending more "stimulus" dollars which didn't work the FIRST time. It was all a sham. He bitched and moaned for over 6 months about how he was "left with a 1.3 trillion dollar deficit" all the while he's pushing to spend more and more and now we're up to $7.6 trillion. Are all of the liberals in Washington crooked and corrupt? You bet they are and they are Progressives" which is a hidden term for Communist.