azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

Seriously? The Affordable Care Act IS ObamaCare.So, what about it?Look at the economy. Do you see improvement?It could have been worse if not for thatThat doesn't hide the fact that they should have been written and should be enforced by now. You do realize that it's been a few years since he passed the reform, right?Theres too many things that the government are busy with. It takes timeWhat are you talking about? The gov't had been searching for Bin Laden before Obama was even elected.He is aware of the operations, secret informations and approves of it. I agree that he did not do much and the CIA did everthing. But since he was the head, it is unavoidable to include him on the victoryThat's all Obama really does, isn't it? Signs papers. Look up Libya. Do you see much improvement?It isnt just signing. It is about reading the informations, deciding whether it will be a good idea. If its a good one, it will be signed. If not, to the trash it goes. But the problem is that Black and White fallacy does not work in the congress. Every single act is questionable. Meetings will be held, debates will be imposed, votings will be gathered and so on.It is the job of the president to have a good judgement over this.The situation got worse after Obama told him to "go"... so how is that labeled as a positive defining moment in Obama's "great" presidency?No one saw that the situation will go worse. The only thing that everyone saw was the fact that they are now free and ready to rebuild. (Such shame the outcome didnt make up for the dear cost)How did he improve the American people's image? Beats me. You gotta ask the foreigners of what America did for them A good job? Obama has increased the debt more than any president in the history of the United States. All of that spending you keep mentioning as "pain and gain" contributed to the debt.Debts are one thing. But the fact that the money are being spent wisely negates the arguments. Or at least it should have.That didn't really answer my question. The reason for that act was to decrease the sentence of "crack-heads". Do you agree with that?The definition of criminal and crack heads will be debatable. But since it promotes fair trial, my answer would be a YesWhat? We're talking about the school lunch reform.The act was to feed children. Why are you linking it with Child Obesity?Do you really think that they're showing all of their expenditures? Pssh, yeah right!We wont know until wise men actually investigated the site.
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: One of the Worst

So, what about it?Uhhh... that means my original argument worked.It could have been worse if not for thatMaybe... even though the stimulus put us further in debt.Theres too many things that the government are busy with. It takes timeReally? Like what? You don't think it should have been ready at least a few months after he passed it? A few years is a long time. He is aware of the operations, secret informations and approves of it. I agree that he did not do much and the CIA did everthing. But since he was the head, it is unavoidable to include him on the victoryApproves it, yes. Any president would have approved of it. Should it really be listed as one of his accomplishments?It is the job of the president to have a good judgement over this.I was being a smartass, but as you can tell... his judgment isn't very good.No one saw that the situation will go worse. The only thing that everyone saw was the fact that they are now free and ready to rebuild.Obama supported Morsi. He didn't want him to leave office. How is that an achievement for Obama?Beats me. You gotta ask the foreigners of what America did for themYeah, I asked them. They're pissed.Debts are one thing. But the fact that the money are being spent wisely negates the arguments. Or at least it should have.The money isn't being spent wisely. The fact that we have to keep raising our debt ceiling should be proof of that.The definition of criminal and crack heads will be debatable. But since it promotes fair trial, my answer would be a YesOkay, and as you probably already know... that is debatable. Some find it to be good thing, others don't. It's only an achievement in the eyes of people who support it.The act was to feed children. Why are you linking it with Child Obesity?It was an attempt to make school lunches healthier and prevent childhood obesity.
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

I can only argue a few more then you can treat it as your victory :)Really? Like what? You don't think it should have been ready at least a few months after he passed it? A few years is a long time.I agree.But you dont want him to sacrifice his focus on other more important things than this one. Now do you?Obama supported Morsi. He didn't want him to leave office. He didnt want him to leave because another change in leadership will give a bad impression for their country.It was an attempt to make school lunches healthier and prevent childhood obesity.No matter how healthy school lunches are, if a kid still eats unhealthy foods outside without any parental supervision, obesity is unavoidable. You cant blame Obama for the fault of the parents
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: One of the Worst

I agree.But you dont want him to sacrifice his focus on other more important things than this one. Now do you?If he spends billions of dollars (in this case, I think it was trillions... but I'm not entirely sure), then he better keep his word and jump on it pretty quick. You listed almost fifty things he spent money on. A lot of that occurred after this, do you think all of that stuff was more important?He didnt want him to leave because another change in leadership will give a bad impression for their country.Morsi represented the Muslim Brotherhood. He was kind of a weird candidate for an American president to support in the first place. The people were rioting and killing each other over Morsi being in office. The protests were giving off a bad impression, not so much the change in leadership.No matter how healthy school lunches are, if a kid still eats unhealthy foods outside without any parental supervision, obesity is unavoidable. You cant blame Obama for the fault of the parentsMichelle Obama was really the big advocate for this. I'm not entirely sure of the impact it has had on school lunches since then.
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

If he spends billions of dollars (in this case, I think it was trillions... but I'm not entirely sure), then he better keep his word and jump on it pretty quick.You cant demand something impossibleMorsi represented the Muslim Brotherhood. He was kind of a weird candidate for an American president to support in the first place. Thats a clarification than a dispute, isnt it?Michelle Obama was really the big advocate for this. I'm not entirely sure of the impact it has had on school lunches since then.We cant tell. But I still dont get why you are making Obama responsible for the obese children.
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: One of the Worst

You cant demand something impossibleWhat's impossible about it?Thats a clarification than a dispute, isnt it?Huh? Did you read the rest of the argument? We cant tell. But I still dont get why you are making Obama responsible for the obese children.I'm not making Obama responsible for childhood obesity, I'm pointing out that the act he signed isn't preventing it. In other words, it hasn't shown any success... so how can it be considered an achievement?
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

I see no point in arguing anymore. You win :)
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

Yes! Lol good game.
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: One of the Worst

2.So in actual dollars you are incorrect by about $200 billion (and would be more incorrect if adjusted for inflation). And in percentage growth it is not even close.Also, and more importantly, you seem to be ignoring the financial collapse in 2008 which dramatically reduced receipts while simultaneously increasing demand on unemployment and welfare programs. The collapse was not the result of Obama policies.You are proud that Obama was able to fall short of Bush by 200 billion in 3/8 the amount of time?3.Therefore it doesn't count at all??Yes, he didn't actually pass the reform if it isn't written down.
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

2) You are proud that Obama was able to fall short of Bush by 200 billion in 3/8 the amount of time?An assertion of fact was made an I showed that it was not true and that percentage-wise he is on par with the Bush record.The greatest recession since the Great Depression happened very shortly before he took office and it is disingenuous to blame Obama for its impact. I am more proud that when he came into office, the country was losing about 8000,000 jobs a month and yet we've now had 44 straight months of private sector job growth. Also of note is that the unemployment rate would be a good deal less if we maintained the public sector pratices of prior administrations during recessions refAnd a growth of 144% in the stock marketAnd a reduction in the deficit by nearly half.And turning GDP growth from -8.9% in Q4 of 2008 to +4% in Q4 of 2009etc.3) he didn't actually pass the reform if it isn't written down.That is just a plainly false statement. Passed through Congress and Signed by President and half of the mandated rules in place and the rest in-process is obviously different than not passed at all.There are several parts to the bill other than mandated rule-making that took effect upon enactment. When it comes to rules affecting the financial markets, I prefer that some prudence be taken rather than hastily written rules leading to unintended consequences and being fought in court and more often being overturned.
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: One of the Worst

An assertion of fact was made an I showed that it was not true and that percentage-wise he is on par with the Bush record.THAT IS HORRIBLE. If Obama raises the national debt by the same percentage as Bush he will definitely be the worst of all time. It is a compounded percentage.The greatest recession since the Great Depression happened very shortly before he took office and it is disingenuous to blame Obama for its impact. It is also disingenuous to use the fact that he barely fell short of Bush in 3/8 the time as a good thing. I am more proud that when he came into office, the country was losing about 8000,000 jobs a month and yet we've now had 44 straight months of private sector job growth. Also of note is that the unemployment rate would be a good deal less if we maintained the public sector pratices of prior administrations during recessionsHe doesn't control the private sector, what did he do to help private companies create jobs?And a growth of 144% in the stock marketProbably not because of him.And a reduction in the deficit by nearly half.Awesome, he got us to half as much bleeding, which means we still bleed to death.And turning GDP growth from -8.9% in Q4 of 2008 to +4% in Q4 of 2009Also, probably not because of him, what did he do to get this?I am not saying that he didn't accomplish something by the economy improving the way you describe, I am just a little upset that you bring that up to cover up the debt issue.That is just a plainly false statement.He half passed it.When it comes to rules affecting the financial markets, I prefer that some prudence be taken rather than hastily written rules leading to unintended consequences and being fought in court and more often being overturned.If he did it that way, and if he did it the quick and dirty way you would think that was the right way like with the gulf relief.
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

You are proud that Obama was able to fall short of Bush by 200 billion in 3/8 the amount of time?He gave me numbers from 2012. Based off of numbers from October 2013, Obama has increased the debt more in five years than Bush did his entire eight years in office.
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

IT DOESN'T MATTER, IT IS A SMALLER PERCENT OF WHAT HE STARTED WITH!!!!!!!!!!!! Hehe
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

It won't be for long. It was around 44% in 2012. It's now at about 57%. I wonder what it will be by the time Obama leaves office?
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

Who cares? If we think Bush was bad for raising it an astronomical amount, we should compare what Obama has done based off where Bush started.Didn't Bush almost double the debt?
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

The debt did double under Bush. It's likely going to double under Obama as well, which is really bad considering the amount of debt he started with.
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

Yep, a doubling of a double debt is really scary.
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

I don't see why people can't just accept that he is a shitty president, just like Bush was. Making him out as some sort of hero is just dumb.
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

Part of it is because he is "nice." Bush started wars, Obama has only screwed up the economy. As long as you don't count Libya. Which is more of an ending to a war than starting one, am I right? ;)
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

"Nice"... lol. Whatever. He's a mess is what he is. He might be a nice guy, he's just not a good president. Kind of like Carter... he's a nice dude, he has the same initials as Jesus... but he wasn't a very good president.
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

Yeah, that's all I can come up with. Or it is just that he is a Democrat and you hear all of the Democrats trying to say he is great. I felt a lot of Republicans defended Bush like crazy.
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

People blindly defend their political parties. That's probably part of the reason why our gov't is so screwed up.
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

True dat, yo.
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: One of the Worst

Holy shit! You aren't going to believe this... but I just typed up a long response (I was almost finished!)I am totally going to steal this.
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

Repealing Obamacare will cost us $109 billion... but the cost OF Obamacare will be around $1.3 trillion during that same period. Hmm...?This will explain why the oft cited 1.1 or 1.3 trillion dollar cost numbers are incorrect.
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: One of the Worst

This will explain why the oft cited 1.1 or 1.3 trillion dollar cost numbers are incorrect.My numbers are from CBO's 2013 ten-year estimate.http://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/cbofiles/images/pubs-images/44xxx/44176-land-InsuanceCoverage2.png
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

Why is it that you completely ignored the link I sent which says specifically why that number is wrong?It is only estimating the impact of select provisions of the act.Please read:http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/post/cbo-health-reform-to-cut-deficit-by-50-billion-more-than-we-thought/2011/08/25/ gIQAXgPSES_blog.html
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: One of the Worst

You think I want to click a link from a pompous dickhead like you? Ha! Nah... I'll take my chances. If you want to debate with me civilly and stop trying to insult me, then that's fine... otherwise, move on to someone who gives a shit.
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

Should I cut and paste the whole article? Isn't that why we are in this mess? ;)
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: One of the Worst

You can post it for the extra point if you want, but I'm pretty sure that I'm not going to read it.
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

Why chose an activity dependent upon curiosity and knowledge, etc. if you prefer to remain in ignorance?The point is that the CBO estimate is directed at a subset of provisions of the Act, not the entire thing; the CBO estimate itself states explicitly (on Page 2):"Those amounts do not encompass all of the budgetary impacts of the ACA because that legislation has many other provisions, including some that will cause significant reductions in Medicare spending and others that will generate added tax revenues, relative to what would have occurred under prior law. CBO and JCT have previously estimated that the ACA will, on net, reduce budget deficits over the 2012–2021 period;"It would be like saying the cost of playing the PowerBall is $2 therefore the net impact of winning the PowerBall jackpot would be ‑$2
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

In other words, we still have to pay?The truth is you were already paying. About 60% of bankruptcies are related to medical costs and result in uncompensated care. The medical industry passes those costs along to paying customers through higher costs/insurance premiums.ref
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

no I'm not... because it's not 2012 anymoreYour statement explicitly said "in his first three years" and is thusly still false.
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: One of the Worst

Yeah... I guess I was wrong, but the core of that argument isn't, which is that Obama has already accumulated more debt than Bush did his entire eight years. Do you disagree?
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

I think context is important.Bush turned a surplus into the greatest recession since the Great Depression. The loss in revenue and increase in outlays for unemployment and welfare related to the recession are far more attributable to Bush policies than Obama policies.Obama is slowly, with intentional impedance from Congress, reversing the trend.Cutting the deficit that existed before he took office by nearly half is certainly a step in the right direction, wouldn't you agree?In order to get the tax change that produced much of the revenue which is shrinking the deficit, the government had to again be on the precipice of shutdown.Republican obstruction has resulted in stock market scares, reduction in our credit rating, loss of public sector jobs, and many other deleterious effects. They have deliberately put party above country. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2012/apr/26/democrats-gop-plot-obstruct-obama Obama wanted a bigger stimulus, more infrastructure spending, and several other agenda items that would have improved the economy, but only had a filibuster-proof majority for 132 days (and that included 38 weekend days plus the Thanksgiving, Christmas, and New Year holidays). refHow much blame for the debt do you honestly think can be apportioned to Obama given the circumstances?
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: Great President

Are you seriously trying to assert that item 4 "Ended the War in Iraq" doesn't count as an accomplishment because the heading uses the word War instead of something like Presence?A few notes:The exposition given: "Ordered all U.S. military forces out of the country. Last troops left on December 18, 2011." is plainly true.I wish you had the same desire for preciseness when it comes to your understanding of why went went into Iraq and why we left.The enemies were the Sunni, the Shia, the Taliban and al Qaeda.Sunni and Shia were our enemies?? - Stupendously wrong.Taliban did not exist in Iraq at the time.al-Qaeda:The Pentagon Inspector General concluded that Under Secretary of Defense for Policy Douglas Feith's office "developed, produced and then disseminated alternative intelligence assessments on the Iraq and al-Qaeda relationship," with "conclusions that were inconsistent with the consensus of the Intelligence Community"ref"We could never verify that there was any Iraqi authority, direction and control, complicity with al-Qaeda for 9/11 or any operational act against America, period." - CIA Director George Tenet <- Watch this videoSee AlsoWe remained in Iraq for as long as we did because we were watching for al Qaeda. They appeared to have moved out of Iraq, so we moved on as well...This debate isn't one about relitigating Iraq, but suffice it to say you either need to do some homework or refrain from speaking on this topic.
Debate: Will Obama recover from the absolute mess he has created as president of the US?
Side: One of the Worst

Sunni and Shia were our enemies?? - Stupendously wrong.How? Sunni and Shia terrorists, not the entire groups. Maybe I should have been more specific.Taliban did not exist in Iraq at the time.I'm pretty sure that I was talking about the War on Terror, in general. If not... then my bad.This debate isn't one about relitigating Iraq, but suffice it to say you either need to do some homework or refrain from speaking on this topicI'll certainly refrain from debating with you if you want to continue being a condescending asshole.