azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Should students be allowed to choose to be taught creationism?
Side: No

When we say "students" I assume we are discussing the primary and secondary education of youth. That being the case when we say "students" should be allowed to choose their class I think we have to account for the weight of influence that parents have, and the likelihood that students with religious parents who want their kids to believe in creationism would pressure their kids to take those classes. Effectively, it becomes a moderately clever loophole by the conservative right to thwart attempts to keep theology out of our public schools. The only place creationism has in public schools is alongside coursework in mythology and fiction. I have never seen any scientific evidence whatsoever to merit its placement anywhere else in curriculum.
Debate: Should students be allowed to choose to be taught creationism?
Side: No

There was a creationist article besides evolution in my y8 biology textbook. I would have been mad, but someone had drawn dicks all over it, so it was just plain hilarious, to a 13 yr-old anyway.Science is fact observation and analysis, not mythology.
Debate: Should students be allowed to choose to be taught creationism?
Side: No

Should they be allowed to be taught that fairies do exist? No. The answer is no.
Debate: Should students be allowed to choose to be taught creationism?
Side: No

Students should NOT be taught creationism AT ALL. The bible should only be taught as literature, since much of western culture is influenced by it, but kids have less of a developed mind and can lack maturity to make proper decisions, which make them more gullible to whatever and whoever influences their mind. If parents want to make them believe in it at home, then fine- but anything to be taught in an educational system must be backed up by hard evidence. Something creationism does not have.
Debate: Should students be allowed to choose to be taught creationism?
Side: No

I don't see reason why they should be taught that some African good puked out whole world and made fist generation of people without knees... or similar stories...
Debate: Should students be allowed to choose to be taught creationism?
Side: Yes

Any particular reason why you downvoted me without explanation?
Debate: Should students be allowed to choose to be taught creationism?
Side: Yes

Although I mind a lot less now that so many others have upvoted. Now "yes" is the leading view, and even though I supported it due to linguistic technicalities, I was not hoping it would win...
Debate: Should students be allowed to choose to be taught creationism?
Side: No

what are you still crying about ?
Debate: Should students be allowed to choose to be taught creationism?
Side: Yes

Never expected an essentially middle-ground stance to get that many votes up. But the initial point was, if you dispute my argument, provide a retort. Don't just hide behind a downvote like a coward.
Debate: Should students be allowed to choose to be taught creationism?
Side: No

likely to be done by bots, often done by creatards on you tube.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: Yes

Face it, there is almost no way to stop a person from committing suicide - if the person is really committed!What gives us the right to tell a person, what to do with their live? (I'm talking about a sane and mature person here)If we had suicide facilities, paired with counseling, I doubt that suicide rates would go up.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: No

This is a weak arguement because your are supposing that the person is wanting to be committed to killing himself. There are other ways than legalizing suicide to help a person recover to a healthy life. As problem solvers for suicidal people we should be looking at equipping counselors with job forms and relocation plans for people who can not think of continuing their lives since most suicidal people just need a new chance.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: yes

Sometimes suicide is the only relief of pain someone has. Why make that person go on and life and suffer if theres no way for them to get rid of the pain. Imagine if u lost every person u know and end everything else in your life, how would you deal with the pain?
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: No

According to religious point of view people who did suicide will never be sent to the Paradise, so if men has problems solution is everywhere. God gives us problems due to our power.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: Yes

Yeah, survival of the fittest. If you wanna die, yer not fit to be anything but a darwin award winner. Go ahead and take yerself out of my gene pool
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: yes

if u want to die go ahead know one can stop u it's not about religion it's actually pretty simple if u hate your life so bad why live. The govt just wants us alive just to pay taxes. So do as you wish.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: yes

If I were to kill myself, I wouldn't give a damn if I were doing something illegal. I would hopefully be dead and the law would never have mattered!
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: Yes

I think suicide being illegal is an exercise in futility. If a person is truly committed to suicide there is no way you can stop them short of straight jackets and gags. This life is mine. I will control what my body consumes and the way I treat it. If I choose that it is time to leave this world it will be my right and choice to do so. Opinions and laws do not extend to the point where you can dictate and regulate what others choose to do with their existence or body . As caring human beings we don't want others to feel their life is in need of ending, and we absolutely should try our best to show others their perceived worth and value to us, but we should not try to forcefully extend our own fears of death onto others. I'll completely agree that people shouldn't commit suicide and I would definitely try to stop a friend from attempting it, but I think the spirit of the law is to protect you from others, not yourself. I know this can be contradicted by the current wave of forced psychiatric evaluation and by those who think in the current thought crime mentality, but I really believe that the area of suicide, due to it's moral ambiguity, is something best kept away from laws that would punish you for failing to do it right the first time.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: Yes

It's funny, that if you think life is bad and attempt to kill yourself, we do nothing more to help than keep you alive in a way that you hate even more than the way you were while attempting...I think assisted suicide would be great... but at the same time, how do you know that the person you're about to help by killing them wouldn't win the lotto the next day and be able to afford a better life via medication and a lifestyle change...I don't know, life is pretty fucked up.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: Yes

Mental illness is subjective to whomever is evaluating someone's mental illness. Homosexuality used to be considered a mental illness. Women being unhappy as housewives was considered a mental illness. Times change, and so does medicine. Psychiatric medicine is not an absolute, and never has been. Every one is unique.If someone want to end their life, it's their choice. It's their right. I'm not saying that I agree with suicide. I have been very depressed before, and I have had really bad experiences that I thought were never going to go away, but I can never see myself killing myself. I think that it's wrong, it's a weak thing to do, and it hurts those who love you. But, it's not my place, or the law's place to force someone to live. This is a free country, a free society. People have the right to harm themselves, to mess up their lives, and to be terrible to other people (granted that they aren't harming them physically or in other illegal ways.) So why should people also be barred from killing themselves? I think that there should always be help available, but just like with drug rehab, and debt counseling, and friends and family, people have the right to refuse help.I don't agree with it, I would never do it, and I would try to prevent friends or family from doing it, but as for a law prohibiting it, I am not supportive.People have the right to life and liberty, which also means that they have the right to do with those things what they choose.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: Yes

It's a ridiculous question really. If you're dead, what does it matter? Are they going to throw your corpse into a prison cell? Is someone going to press charges? Will your cadaver have to get a lawyer?
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: No

it does matter because then if you're dead who would be responsible for you're death would have been seen to the public eye as helping you end your life or to murder you on purpose. Some people murder their relatives for large inheritance of money.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: yes

This isn't about assisted suicide, it's about the legality of killing yourself. You can know suicide is "illegal" before you kill yourself, but the part of the law that keeps you in accordance with the law is the sure punishment that you'll receive if you break the law. Once you've killed yourself or, once you've broken the law, you cannot be punished by the law... so why is there a law at all???
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: No

Laws are right and they are proven by citizens of certain country. As orangeraght said peoples lives cost high for their relatives in some countries. Ceremony of burdening is too high and last several days.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: No

But it's not all about you. Those whom you leave would not want you branded a criminal, be implicated, lose out on benefits, inheritance etc.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: Yes

Well what would you care? Still, if you're going to kill yourself, does it matter who your shit goes to??? No, it's a personal problem. You cannot tell someone that they legally cannot kill themselves because of their inheritance, what difference would that do other than show the person that is going to kill themselves that you care more about their possessions than their life... and you cannot tell them that they legally can't kill themselves for any other reason, you know?
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: No

of course it matters who your shit goes to , you've been working for that all your life, you were taught to live for it and without it you more so, dieand that beats the whole purpose of wills and lawyers and a whole bunch of movies involving disputes over money after dying
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: yes

It matters only to the people around you before death... you certainly won't care about them once you're gone.If you're killing yourself you obviously already don't give a shit about the people around you anyway.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: No

That's not necessarily true. My cousin committed suicide and he cared about us immensely. He had a boyfriend that he loved dearly. He just didn't get the help he needed in time.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: Yes

It does matter. If you do commit suicide and fail, you may be fined or imprisoned. And while this is not intrinsic, many suicide cases require close medical attention and help; the survivor of a suicide needs support, not imprisonment. Personally, the only thing which kept me from commuting suicide (at a certain point in my life) was the extreme fear of surviving it, and while this is because of an array of reasons, one of these reasons is the very shame of being punished by law and dragging a criminal record thereof.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: Yes

There is not question Suicide should be legal. All that needs to be conceded is that everyone owns them self. By that I mean that I own myself, no one has a higher claim to me, mind and body, but me. I am not anyone's property. If we can agree that we all own ourselves absolutely then there is no question about suicides legality. To claim that you, or anyone, has the right to tell me I cannot commit suicide is the same as saying you OWN ME. You assume to have a higher claim to my own body and mind than I do, that you have the right to judge my state and worth and decide what is to be done with me. Myself, I would call that slavery. You do not own me, I do.There is nothing wrong with assisted suicide either. Why would it be OK for me to kill myself, possibly painfully due to a sloppy death, but then if I were to go to a medical facility where I could have a painless death suddenly becomes immoral? The logic does not follow.Some people say that assisted suicide could lead to murder convicts getting off the hook, but this is not an argument against assisted suicide. It is an argument from effect that has no bearing on the actual morality of committing suicide. I should not be restricted from killing myself, or letting someone kill me, because some malicious person might kill others. You are letting a bad person's bad actions control me, an uninvolved person. With laws preventing assisted suicide you would empowering the murderers to cause even more pain and suffering.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: No

You are assuming by saying you are your own that their is no other beings or higher powers in this world or in the solar system. Basically, this earth is all that there is to life and once you die you go in the ground and become dirt. That is a very big stretch to make considering their are millions of supernatural things that happen in a regular year. For example, miraculous healing. I have seen plenty of people healed from prayers. So to say that you are your own and you were not created, takes as much faith as for me to say you were created, only their is more people who believe that they evolved and were not created.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: Yes

Assuming? Perhaps, I also assume there is no Zeus or Athena. Why? There is not proof. When I say proof I mean verifiable and scientific, not "some guy I know saw XYZ".Millions of supernatural things? No... Just many things we don't YET understand, that doesn't mean they are beyond comprehension. Not so long ago we didn't completely understand the physics of how bees flew. Yes we understood they had wings and all, but not the complexities of it. Theologians said "it is god that makes them fly!" and yet with more advanced science we have discovered that it is NOT god that makes bees fly, and that bees flight is well within the realm of natural law.You may laugh at someone saying bees fly by the will of god, but it is the same principle whenever anyone says something is done by god."Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -Arthur C. ClarkeIf there is an omnipotent being that owns my life, then it should be able to stop me killing myself. If it can, and chooses not to, then why does it matter? If it wants to, and cannot, then is it really omnipotent?PS:I meant to press oppose, woops.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: Yes

It's a bogus argument people! I've never heard of someone who committed suicide being ticketed or taken to jail. It's only illegal if you fail.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: Yes

Even then, it's not illegal. The fact that suicide is illegal is a myth.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: No

its not bogus if the person cannot make the decision of commiting suicide because they're an infant, newborn, or simply in a coma
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: yes

What will you do to me if I do kill myself. Put me in jail?You cant punish me if I'm dead can you?
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: Yes

Yes, suicide should be illegal and we should bury the perpetrators in jail.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: yes

Possibly the best point in this whole debate. .
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: Yes

Yes, I just can't commit to it right now. Two many responsibilities.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: Yes

There is really no way to punish the person who committed suicide. Moreover, any attempt will actually punish the family of the deceased more than the person, such as taking away property, money, and the funeral.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: Yes

Bradf0rd brought up a good point. Most people like to act righteous and want to stop people from killing them self, but they don't want to actually HELP the person. They will just do enough to stop the person from killing them self, to claim they save life or perhaps to feel moral, but do nothing to actually improve that suicidal person's life. You continue their hell.People often want to make things they find distasteful illegal. They want to government to do their dirty work. If you care about the problem, fix it yourself. Don't have the government do it with other peoples' money. Those who believe suicide should be illegal, I want you find someone who wishes to commit suicide, and stop them. Physically stop them from killing them self. Don't help them, don't try to convince them to live, just stop them from killing them self and keep them alive. Nothing more. I wonder, would they thank you?The same thing will happen if you have government handle this. The government is cold and impersonal. It does not care about the suicidal people, it cares about the taxpayer dollars. The government would be ineffective. We don't need government to solve this problem, we need caring people to solve this problem.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: Yes

Well put. You have strong arguements and clear logic
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: Yes

Suicide is not illegal, and it probably will never be, by the nature of the law system (apparently you cant arrest the dead, who knew?). However, assisted suicide should only be legal under extreme circumstances, (Terminal illness, or Chronic pain that is not expected to end, etc.) Only when there is no alternative.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: Yes

The law enforcement community for the most part view someone attempting suicide as unstable. They believe that no person would commit suicide that was of sound mind. Its insane to believe that an individual is not intelligent enough to decide that they are ready to die, or to help them do it in the most effiecient and painless manner possible.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: yes

There is no problem for people to kill themselves.We don't have the right to control other peoples' lives.If they want to die, let them die.Why make it illegal?
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: No

it is illegal and furthermore physicians do have the right to control other peoples' lives cause they can give you a lethal injection or pull you're life supporting system. if we just let them die. everybody would be dying because of a midterm that they know they won't pass or if they were emotionally hurt by a loved one.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: yes

How can you sentence somebody to jail if that person has just jumped off a 12 story building?
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: yes

Sucide should be legal cause they have no way of helpign the people. This stuff about medication is barbaric. Usally its a bunch of j--- that want to do it cause thats all they knowTHey dont help people all they do is interfere. If you dont like suicide then go talk about it with your dr. However I have heard the reason we dont like suicde is we dont wnat to goto the funeral. WHy should you have someone living in pain and torure cuase you dont want to goto a funeral. Preventing sucide and force commitment is no better then what Stalin did
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: No

This is inconsequential question. First, suicide is not illegal. So, are you going to prosecute someone who commits a act on themselves when they are dead. Plus, if one does attempt suicide and fails, they are not sent to jail; they are sent to counseling.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: yes

The question is not, 'IS suicide legal", the question is: SHOULD it be legal or not... You can get fined for attempting and failing, yes, you get thrown in jail, however, the question is SHOULD is be legal, and everyone on here fails to answer that question. I think it should be legal BECAUSE this is a free country so why don't we have the freedom of choice to choose life or death? Would you want to sit and watch ur loved ones suffer every damn day knowing they'd be happier if they werent here? Set them free.. don't make someone suffer... Animals get put to sleep all the time because they're suffering, so why should we live through it too? NO, im not emo, and I like living, but I still stick with what I said...
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: yes

most definitely it should be!these are our own bodies! we should be entitled to have some sort of control over how or when we die. WHo else owns us?Although, I have lost six close friends to suicide, and the pain I went through was excruciating. But after my grief had passed, years later I come to realize that these people were perfectly controlled and sure of their decision. Their pain was gone and they could finally be at peace. And that is how i see it today.I don't really like the idea of getting a friend or family member assisting you, as this could seriously question their motives or judgement. But really, if one is in that much pain that they could not bear life for one more day, then they should be entitled to their own form of death.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: yes

You would think that suicide is a bad thing, that a person has got so depressed or wronged that they hate life, what about people with cancer? if they should choose so they should have the choice to end there suffering, in general suicide is a is a way out of the pain, yes at times people don't think it through 1st which is why governments across the world should have legal suicide methods to prevent failing in suicide such as hanging your self if you don't do it right instead of breaking your neck it chokes you to death not something people have in mind when they want to die, it should be a painless quick death, to me i think suicide is a choice of the person who wants to die and if the law says thats wrong then we are being controlled by the law to the extent that we cant even do what we want with our lives which is wrong.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: Yes

Suicide IS legal. Euthanasia, assisted suicide, is a crime. Why should the government be allowed to punish a person helping me end my life at the time I choose in a method I choose?
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: No

The problem with allowing euthanasia is opening up a valid defense to people who commit murder or, for example, kill an old senile relative (without their permission) to attain inheritence. It's dodgy ground, and I can understand why, in general, it remains illegal. If however it could be correctly implemented (witnesses, the final act carried out by a doctor, etc) than it should be legal for those who request it and are found to be in a fit mental state to make the decision.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: No

I think it is an issue that should be regulated. I'm in no way suggesting that I think that suicide or euthanasia are light and solely personal issues. There should be terms and conditions such as it has to be done by a board certified physician, a psychiatric evaluation should be required for those without a terminal disease, and there should be at least one witness present.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: No

I totally agree, euthanasia should be legal and regulated for precisely the reason that xaeon outlined. So long as the dodgy ground can be mitigated, I cannot see another reason why society should impose additional pain and misery upon a rational human being whom is experiencing it.
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: No

Better yet, euthanasia should be selectively controlled by the state!
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: No

I think that the major problem comes when trying to define those who "are found to be in a fit mental state to make the decision."
Debate: Should suicide be legal?
Side: Yes

Agreed, which is why it will always be very touchy ground.