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Debate: Can being too nice lead to easy manipulation?
Side: No

Manipulation is a form of art. Just think of how we can find examples of it in our everyday life. A common approach to manipulate a nice & caring character is by guilt or an emotional appeal. It takes equal effort to manipulate a mean & uncaring character by greed or playing to their vice. Examples: 1) Invite Ine Direction to perform at a charity function to raise money for a big children's charity in New York. 2) Tell One Direction's management that volunteering at the children's charity function will impress the big corporate sponsors & make bundles of cash!
Debate: Can being too nice lead to easy manipulation?
Side: No

A weak minded person can be manipulated to do anything. Weak minded people can be nice or nasty.
Debate: Can being too nice lead to easy manipulation?
Side: No

Well, my personal experience leads me to say No. I am someone who is extremely nice to everyone. Many claim I am "Too nice", yet I am not easily manipulated. You can be nice, yet keep your guard up. I am well aware of others intentions. As long as you pay attention and don't let yourself be used, then being too nice won't lead to easy manipulation. However, there are a lot of people who are easily manipulated, but I wouldn't say the reason is because they are too nice. They just aren't able to realize when people are trying to use them. Its a different weakness entirely.
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: Yes.

Well, many of them are so I guess the answer would be yes. 🐰
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: Yes.

Nahh, they're in it for the wine, the choir, and getting to dress up in expensive skirts made of gold and shit ;)
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: Yes.

That's what Jesus would want.
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: Yes.

Anyone can be foolish.
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: Yes.

I'd say Gays can be whatever they want.And.........................it's a free country, so they are allowed to buy alcohol and yes, they can wear skirts (freedom of expression), along with all other men on the planet.
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: Yes.

I, myself am gay. I am Christian, and I love god. Being gay does not cause you to not want to be Christian. What would I be? Atheist or satanic? Would my god be gay? You guys obviously do not make any sense. Yes we can be Christians. Every gay I have known has been christian. We do not worship the devil, we're not different as people, and God loves us. Its very immature and ignorant to say that because we're gay we can not be christian. There is no intelligence in our society.
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: Yes.

Of course they can. They can even be priests! Of course, some won't recognize them as legitimate, but no two denominations of Christianity ever considered one another legitimate anyway, so that's hardly worth delving into.
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: Yes.

Of course, some won't recognize them as legitimate, but no two denominations of Christianity ever considered one another legitimate anyway, so that's hardly worth delving into.Gold.
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: Yes.

Just something I don't think anyone has said yet (I don't think this should matter but just putting it out there.) The Bible says that it is wrong to act on homosexuality. Having the urge to be gay isn't technically a sin.
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: Yes.

Absolutely! And very good ones! Christianity should be inclusive of all.
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: No.

You can't be a Christian and be gay. It's impossible to be those two. If you're really a Christian you would know that homosexuality is a sin and that God doesn't approve of such lifestyle.
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: Yes.

When did gay become the only sin that you can't commit as a Christian? You have admitted many times that you are not free of sin. A homosexual is not free of sin. Wouldn't that mean that if a homosexual is not Christian, you aren't Christian either?
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: No.

Yes we aren't free of sin, but that doesn't mean we can go out sinning on purpose. We try not to sin.  A homosexual is not free of sin. Wouldn't that mean that if a homosexual is not Christian, you aren't Christian either?Your question makes no sense.
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: Yes.

Yes we aren't free of sin, but that doesn't mean we can go out sinning on purpose. We try not to sin.So do gay Christians. There are countless sins they don't commit. Why don't you take into account all of the sins they avoid instead of focusing on the sin they do not avoid? You are allowed the freedom to commit as much sin as you want as long as it isn't super specific? Why do you get a pass? Sin is sin.Your question makes no sense.Maybe you aren't as Christlike as you should be. If sinners aren't Christian, and you are a sinner, then you aren't a Christian by your own logic.You make this weird special case for this one specific sin. That is what doesn't make any sense.
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: No.

So do gay Christians. There are countless sins they don't commit. Why don't you take into account all of the sins they avoid instead of focusing on the sin they do not avoid? You are allowed the freedom to commit as much sin as you want as long as it isn't super specific? Why do you get a pass? Sin is sin.Yes they are other countless sins that they do, but even when they ask God for forgiveness for a new start. They still are currently in sin which is being a homosexual and a homosexual will not inherit the Kingdom of God according to what God said in His word. I'm only repeating a verse in the Bible, there is nothing new about it. Maybe you aren't as Christlike as you should be. If sinners aren't Christian, and you are a sinner, then you aren't a Christian by your own logic.Who are you to say that I'm not Christlike, when you don't believe in God? This is what exactly pisses me off when people like you tell me that maybe I'm not Christlike as I should be when they aren't even apart of what I believe. It's okay if a Christian does it, because they are suppose to, but not someone who is not apart of the belief system. I still don't get your point about what you said about my logic. When did I ever say that?
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: Yes.

Yes they are other countless sins that they do, but even when they ask God for forgiveness for a new start. They still are currently in sin which is being a homosexual and a homosexual will not inherit the Kingdom of God according to what God said in His word. I'm only repeating a verse in the Bible, there is nothing new about it.So, if you forget a sin that you committed and don't ask for forgiveness do you not get a new start and then no longer get considered a Christian? If you commit a sin are you not a Christian until you ask for forgiveness? No where in the Bible does it say you aren't a Christian when you commit a sin. The Bible says you won't be able to get into heaven.Who are you to say that I'm not Christlike, when you don't believe in God? This is what exactly pisses me off when people like you tell me that maybe I'm not Christlike as I should be when they aren't even apart of what I believe. It's okay if a Christian does it, because they are suppose to, but not someone who is not apart of the belief system.When did Christ say that He treated one sin different than another?I still don't get your point about what you said about my logic. When did I ever say that?If we assume homosexuality is a sin, and not some magical evil that causes all the rules to change, then you are claiming that all sin follows the same rules as homosexuality. That means that if you commit sins you aren't a Christian until you ask for forgiveness according to your logic. So, when you commit a sin does that make you not a Christian until you ask for forgiveness?
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: No.

So, if you forget a sin that you committed and don't ask for forgiveness do you not get a new start and then no longer get considered a Christian? If you commit a sin are you not a Christian until you ask for forgiveness? No where in the Bible does it say you aren't a Christian when you commit a sin. The Bible says you won't be able to get into heaven.No, in order for you to start fresh you must repent and ask for forgiveness which means turning away from that sin. Forgiveness will only be obtained if you abstain from that sin and discontinue doing it. That's the problem with being a gay Christian, they'll ask for forgiveness everyday, but God won't forgive them until they confess their sin to God and repent of them being a homosexual. Those people who are gay Christians are only practicing lawlessness which is sin, and when Christ comes back those people will say to God, did we not prophesy in your name or take out demons, and Jesus will say get away from me, I never knew you who practice lawlessness. If we assume homosexuality is a sin, and not some magical evil that causes all the rules to change, then you are claiming that all sin follows the same rules as homosexuality. That means that if you commit sins you aren't a Christian until you ask for forgiveness according to your logic. So, when you commit a sin does that make you not a Christian until you ask for forgiveness?When I commit a sin, I'm still a Christian but I learn from my mistakes. When I sin ,I automatically just don't stop being a Christian. God gives us many chances to start over again if you're willing to ask God for forgiveness and turn away from that sin.
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: Yes.

No, in order for you to start fresh you must repent and ask for forgiveness which means turning away from that sin. Forgiveness will only be obtained if you abstain from that sin and discontinue doing it. That's the problem with being a gay Christian, they'll ask for forgiveness everyday, but God won't forgive them until they confess their sin to God and repent of them being a homosexual. Those people who are gay Christians are only practicing lawlessness which is sin, and when Christ comes back those people will say to God, did we not prophesy in your name or take out demons, and Jesus will say get away from me, I never knew you who practice lawlessness.This is a perfect example of how you are wrong about homosexuality. None of my questions had to do with being gay. I was asking about sins not being a homosexual. If you treated homosexuality as a sin instead of a separate category you could answer the questions without bringing up homosexuality. According to you everyone who forgets a single sin they have committed is not a Christian because they have not turned away from the sin they have committed. When I commit a sin, I'm still a Christian but I learn from my mistakes. When I sin ,I automatically just don't stop being a Christian. God gives us many chances to start over again if you're willing to ask God for forgiveness and turn away from that sin.But, no one turns away from sin. You sin all the time. Do you think it is possible that some Christians do not make it into heaven?
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: No.

According to you everyone who forgets a single sin they have committed is not a Christian because they have not turned away from the sin they have committed.I never once said anything about that. You're the one making the claim that I said that but, I didn't. You don't ever forget a sin at all because God sends the Holy Spirit to convict the person of their sins and tell them that what they did was wrong. But, no one turns away from sin. You sin all the time.Do you think it is possible that some Christians do not make it into heaven?People can turn away from the sin they committed. If someone who used to steal all the time, and then asked stopped completely he turned away from that sin. There are other sins that they still will commit even though he stopped stealing. Yes, I believe that some people who claim to be Christian will not make it to Heaven. God will judge them according to what they did in this life, and if they claimed to be Christians but they never did anything for God, or followed Him, then they won't make it to Heaven.  “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!" - Matthew 7:21-23
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: Yes.

I never once said anything about that. You're the one making the claim that I said that but, I didn't. You don't ever forget a sin at all because God sends the Holy Spirit to convict the person of their sins and tell them that what they did was wrong.This is obviously not true. Otherwise, homosexuals would constantly be told by the Holy Spirit that what they are doing is wrong. You don't understand the implications of the things you say. When you condemn gays the way you are it must mean you have also condemned people who have unknowingly not stopped sinning.People can turn away from the sin they committed. If someone who used to steal all the time, and then asked stopped completely he turned away from that sin. There are other sins that they still will commit even though he stopped stealing.Is the person who constantly stole a Christian before they decide to stop stealing?Yes, I believe that some people who claim to be Christian will not make it to Heaven. God will judge them according to what they did in this life, and if they claimed to be Christians but they never did anything for God, or followed Him, then they won't make it to Heaven.So, gays can be Christians. Your whole reasoning for a gay not being a Christian is that God won't let them into heaven, but you also have admitted here that whether or not you get into heaven has no bearing on whether you are actually a Christian.“Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!" - Matthew 7:21-23In other words, "I consider you to still be Christian because you follow me, but if you don't stop your sinning ways you won't be rewarded like a good Christian."
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: No.

This is obviously not true. Otherwise, homosexuals would constantly be told by the Holy Spirit that what they are doing is wrong. You don't understand the implications of the things you say. When you condemn gays the way you are it must mean you have also condemned people who have unknowingly not stopped sinning.That is because over time when you keep sinning your mind becomes numb of the sin you commit and you start feeling like it isn't a sin. That is what happens to people who keep doing the same sin over and over again and they don't feel guilty for doing that. Only God knows or people who you are close to know that the person stopped sinning. I don't condemn someone who stopped sinning . Don't know why you are saying that. Is the person who constantly stole a Christian before they decide to stop stealing?It was only an example what I put. The person could have been a Christian and stole it. So, gays can be Christians. Your whole reasoning for a gay not being a Christian is that God won't let them into heaven, but you also have admitted here that whether or not you get into heaven has no bearing on whether you are actually a Christian. People who are gay can be Christian only if they stop being a homosexual and turn away from that sin and stop being a homosexual. I never said that stop putting word in my mouth that I never said. The only way to get to heaven is if they accept Jesus as their personal Savior and they follow what Christ taught. You can't be an unbeliever and get to heaven that's not how it works. In other words, "I consider you to still be Christian because you follow me, but if you don't stop your sinning ways you won't be rewarded like a good Christian."I quoted that verse because that will happen to the people who are gay Christians and other people who claim to be Christians but not really following him they will think they are doing is right and that they are following Jesus but they Jesus say get away from me you practice lawlessness
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: Yes.

Is the person who constantly stole a Christian before they decide to stop stealing?It was only an example what I put. The person could have been a Christian and stole it.People who are gay can be Christian only if they stop being a homosexual and turn away from that sin and stop being a homosexual.Do you see your statements at odds here? One can steal (sin) and be a Christian while committing the sin, then you say one cannot be a homosexual (sin) and be a Christian while sinning. Why can you commit any sin but the one and still be a Christian?Cartman has shown that you seem to have a double standard here more than once. I do not expect you to see your err in logic based on your previous record on this site. I am not convinced you critically think about what you say/write. In fact I am pretty sure I am wasting both our times here. I figured "why not" though as I have been surprised before. However do not expect any further replies unless you say something with substance, I don't have huge amounts of time to waste!
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: Yes.

double standardThank you. That is all I am trying to point out. I am glad you were able to say this without being mean to Srom. He needs that.
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: No.

That is because over time when you keep sinning your mind becomes numb of the sin you commit and you start feeling like it isn't a sin. That is what happens to people who keep doing the same sin over and over again and they don't feel guilty for doing that.Only God knows or people who you are close to know that the person stopped sinning. I don't condemn someone who stopped sinning . Don't know why you are saying that.If you just treated gays like normal sinners you wouldn't have to come up with all these crazy stories.It was only an example what I put. The person could have been a Christian and stole it.A story about how you actually treat sinners. Let's establish how you treat real sinners, then we can discuss why you treat homosexuals differently. If a man follows Christ but constantly steals is he not a Christian. Since you say he could be a Christian, you must be admitting that homosexuals can be Christians.People who are gay can be Christian only if they stop being a homosexual and turn away from that sin and stop being a homosexual.No, you can't get into heaven. Huge difference.I never said that stop putting word in my mouth that I never said. The only way to get to heaven is if they accept Jesus as their personal Savior and they follow what Christ taught. You can't be an unbeliever and get to heaven that's not how it works.I didn't say anything about non believers getting into heaven. You are saying that believers aren't Christian when they sin. I was establishing that Jesus doesn't determine if you are a Christian or not when He admits you to heaven, He is only determining if you get into heaven.I quoted that verse because that will happen to the people who are gay Christians and other people who claim to be Christians but not really following him they will think they are doing is right and that they are following Jesus but they Jesus say get away from me you practice lawlessnessAnd, your quote does not say whether someone is a Christian or not, it only has to do with getting into heaven, so it isn't actually relevant to this debate.
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: Yes.

If you just treated gays like normal sinners you wouldn't have to come up with all these crazy stories.I do treat gays like normal sinners. No sin is greater than the rest of it is. All sin is equal. A story about how you actually treat sinners. Let's establish how you treat real sinners, then we can discuss why you treat homosexuals differently. If a man follows Christ but constantly steals is he not a Christian. Since you say he could be a Christian, you must be admitting that homosexuals can be Christians.No the story isn't about how I treat sinners. I used an example of what repenting means, but clearly you didn't get that and assumed it was a story. Just because I say that the man who stole could be a Christian, doesn't mean that I admit that there can be gay Christians. Homosexuals can be Christians when they repent of their homosexual lifestyle. No, you can't get into heaven. Huge difference.Yes, you can if you repent of your sins and discontinue from them and continue to follow what Jesus said. I didn't say anything about non believers getting into heaven. You are saying that believers aren't Christian when they sin. I was establishing that Jesus doesn't determine if you are a Christian or not when He admits you to heaven, He is only determining if you get into heaven.I never said that believers aren't Christian when they sin. I still sin, but that doesn't make me not Christian if I sinned. And, your quote does not say whether someone is a Christian or not, it only has to do with getting into heaven, so it isn't actually relevant to this debate.Yes, my quote is actually quite relevant to this debate because many people will come to God saying didn't we prophesy and take demons out in your name? Jesus told them to get away from Him because they were practicing sin which means they kept doing the same sin over and over again and never repented. He wants people to repent and seek Him. It's relevant to people who call themselves "gay Christians".
Debate: Can gays be Christians?
Side: No.

I do treat gays like normal sinners. No sin is greater than the rest of it is. All sin is equal.You keep claiming that, but every time we bring up other sinners you refuse to make the same claims about those sinners as you do about gays.No the story isn't about how I treat sinners. I used an example of what repenting means, but clearly you didn't get that and assumed it was a story. Just because I say that the man who stole could be a Christian, doesn't mean that I admit that there can be gay Christians. Homosexuals can be Christians when they repent of their homosexual lifestyle.I didn't assume it was a story. I assumed that we could consider thieves to be sinners the exact same way we consider homosexuals sinners. Is a thief a Christian before or after they repent for stealing?Yes, you can if you repent of your sins and discontinue from them and continue to follow what Jesus said.But, since being a Christian doesn't guarantee that you get into heaven just knowing you won't get into heaven doesn't mean we know if you are a Christian or not.I never said that believers aren't Christian when they sin. I still sin, but that doesn't make me not Christian if I sinned.You said that believers who are homosexuals aren't Christian. You say that homosexuals are considering sinners just like any other sinners. Therefore you are saying that any believer who sins is not a Christian. Or, you are saying that homosexuality is a different type of sin that causes you not to be a Christian.Yes, my quote is actually quite relevant to this debate because many people will come to God saying didn't we prophesy and take demons out in your name? Jesus told them to get away from Him because they were practicing sin which means they kept doing the same sin over and over again and never repented. He wants people to repent and seek Him. It's relevant to people who call themselves "gay Christians".No, it isn't relevant. This debate doesn't have anything to do with getting into heaven. Being relevant to gay Christians and being relevant to this debate are 2 different things. We are trying to determine if being gay makes you not Christian. Your Bible passage doesn't talk about who is considered Christian.