Debate: Marines Urinating on Taliban
Side: Horrible.

"GARY: "This kind of behaviour is institutional in the US army, of that I have very little doubt." posted 19 days ago.The 'behaviour' you were referring to was pissing on corpses in a response to David. Does this refresh your memory?"Yes, take everything I say in the most literal sense conceivable. I know pissing on corpses isn't officially condoned, that's ridiculous, as if the US army has some fetish for pissing on corpses, they just can't enough.What I mean when I say I beleive it to be that kind of (these were the key words here I see you somehow choose to neglect them) behaviour institutional is the manner in which the US army conducts itself, they are the law, they don't have to answer to anyone, nobody can come along and actually punish them for committing war crimes, therefore we are relying on them being able to regulate themselves in a manner that accords with moral decency, anyone beleiving they do (i.e. you and most US citizen I'll bet) has already been proven to be extremely naive. So ya, I do think the US army does whatever it pleases and that involves a lot of very bad things, it knows not to do anything that may lose it a little credibility in the PR war, but when the only deterant is a leaked video that really doesn't prevent anyone from harm. I don't see this as an isolated incident, I see it as something that transpires regularly, and I don't need to assume that, the wikileaks cables have shown that to be the case."So are we talking about something else now"No, you decided to focus in on the pissing incident even though I had qualified my position with: "kind of behaviour""because we were talking about an incident of a couple of jarhead marines pissing on dead bodies and how you thought it was standard procedure."Ya, it's in the handbook, right next to no man left behind, I find it funny that you have to resort to these semantic games in order to try to discredit me, if you actually tried debating the substantive issues you know that thin veil of morality would vanish in an instant. At least Enigmatic man openly admitted his (and yours) countries predatory role and all the logical consequences that flow from it, he was unrepentent of course, he doesn't care much for emtional appelals, that's another thing I can't stand about the US position, the indemic hypocrisy e.g. Mrs. Clinton at the UN the other night talking about human rights in Syria, and the moral obligation of the international community to stop the violence and get Assad to step down, painting the the Assad regime as the bogey man, while secretly funding terrorist groups within the country, I mean it's simply amazing, the absolute hypocrisy, as if the US can preach about human rights, you've killed more innocents than any other nation on earth in the last 10 yrs, and it was no fucking accident."Let's assume everything you said above was true, let's assume the US military is the biggest terrorist group in the world"We don't need to assume, the evidence negates the need."e any closer to proving that pissing on corpses is institutionalized behavior? No. You actually need to put forth some evidence that supports your claim."I have no way to prove that, and I wouldn't want to as I never tried to assert that claim, you latched onto it cause you thought you could smear me with semantics, well, not this time, I qualified my position, I'd say pissing on corpses isn't condoned if I had to guess though, that doesn't mean treating people like shit, beating them, wounding them, toruting them, possibly killing them every now and then, that's a different story."everything you said was a non-sequitar"I made myself quite clear, you saw what you wanted to see."You cannot prove an accusation by making yet more accusations"I've said three time already but one more for the road:"kind of behaviour" means more than one type of behaviour."Please present a reasoned logical argument and we can continue, otherwise your initial claim is still unproven and unsubstantiated"Why play these games?