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Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: No I don't agree

I'm inclined to agree, for the most part. When they post stats like One-third of all teens (ages 12-17) and one-sixth of children (ages 6-11) have had mean, threatening or embarrassing things said about them online. I just think I'd be very fucking surprised if not 100% of kids ages 6-17 have had mean, threatening, or embarrassing things said about them in real life. The difference is when you're online you can a) have some degree of anonymity, depending on the situation, and b) literally leave anytime you want. Maybe it's because I've been in my fair share of real fights, but when you're getting the shit kicked out of you by another group of kids - that's a problem. You're trapped. You're in real physical pain. You are also traumatized or shocked. When some kids are poking fun at you on, say, createdebate.com, either tell them to fuck off and ignore them or if you really can't handle it get off the goddamn website. Because this is all happening through a computer, there is no way in hell for you to actually be in any physical pain or danger unless you choose to hurt and endanger yourself. I guess what I'm saying is kids these days need to embrace "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me."Bullying is a real problem.Cyber-bulling is a mild irk that the media has blown way out of proportion.
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: No I don't agree

I just think I'd be very fucking surprised if not 100% of kids ages 6-17 have had mean, threatening, or embarrassing things said about them in real life.I completely agree with you there. I have been threatened and embarrassed in both real life, and online, it's unavoidable in real life, but at least online I have zero fears of it coming to fruition.The difference is when you're online you can a) have some degree of anonymity, depending on the situation, and b) literally leave anytime you want.Exactly. Living proof of this is Prodigee. His opinions are boisterous, uncalled, for, offensive, often rude, I could go on all day, yet he has nothing to worry about because no matter what anyone says to him they can't follow through, and if he ever gets bored with us, he can just leave.Maybe it's because I've been in my fair share of real fights,I didn't need to quote all of it, I read, and I also agree with this. I have been in real fights, lost some won some. Maybe these people that see cyber bullying as a major issue, that they claim takes lives, need to be put into real bullying situations to understand that there is a difference.I guess what I'm saying is kids these days need to embrace "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt meI couldn't have put it better myself.Cyber-bulling is a mild irk that the media has blown way out of proportion.Agreed.
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: Yes I agree.

I don't think you are understanding the full effect of cyberbullying. You and Quocalimar both are still not understanding why it is "blown way out of proportion".
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: No I don't agree

Because middle aged housewives want something new to bitch about? It's the same 20/20 specials about cyber bullying that also tell these housewives that starbucks is the best thing for your health since pinkberry, so...
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: Yes I agree.

Its a major problem for the students that have their lives decline because of it. But i already debated with Quocalimar on what we consider to be alot so depending on your perspective it may or may not be alot.
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: No I don't agree

It's not really a major problem when they are allowing their lives to decline because of it. You said it was 8% of bullying victims that attempted suicide? Well, 7% of high school students in general will attempt suicide. For every 100 people that attempt suicide, only 1 actually want to enough to succeed. So we're looking at 1% of 8% of victims. Of that small group, (that actually killed themselves) almost 80% was also bullied in real life. Only 17% was bullied exclusively online. Of that group 32-47% had a preexisting mental disorder.
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: Yes I agree.

The thing is 1,040,000 kids die each year. To me that's a significant number. It all depends on how you look at it because it also included people below the high school level. Again it just falls in to your opinion on if this is a number worth noticing.
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: No I don't agree

Why is the number of children who die each year singificant to this argument? They are clearly not all children who committed suicide, and even if they were not all of those suicides could be linked to cyberbullying. The actual number of youth suicides 0-17 is like 8-10 per 100,000. That's like .009% of the youth population that will actually kill themselves each year. And again, not all of those suicides can be linked to cyberbullying. And when they can be linked to cyberbullying they can also almost always be linked to real bullying and a little less than half the time be linked to mental illness. If a million kids actually died each year as a direct and clear result of cyberbullying and just cyberbullying, your statistic would have some weight in this argument. As it stands, not so much.
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: Yes I agree.

No. The poll revealed that out of the 13million kids in the USA. 8% of those kids commit suicide. So it is a major thing to my argument. It a million kids dying. All linked to cyberbullying. So yes this number is very relevant and to me is quite major.
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: No I don't agree

Can I just see the poll? Can you link it, please? I'm having a hard time believing a million kids tried to kill themselves last year as a direct result of cyberbullying.
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: Yes I agree.

Wait actually it says "attempted". So 1,040,000 kids attempted suicide. My bad. You may have a point there.
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: Yes I agree.

Your argument is highly illogical. As I have said before. I am not sure you understand all the fundamentals of cyberbullying.
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: No I don't agree

Your argument is highly illogical.My argument overall is that cyber bullying has not literally killed anyone, people kill themselves because they don't know how to handle it.One of the points in my argument was that 8%, even if they are suicides and not actually kills, is not that large of a percent.Another point I addressed is that cyber bullying, as opposed to real world bullying, can easily be avoided. One must simply log off. That is an exact quote, how is that illogical?As I have said before. I am not sure you understand all the fundamentals of cyberbullying.I don't think I do either. Tell me something about cyber bullying that is unavoidable. Something anyone that decided to log onto that site, can't leave by logging off.
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: Yes I agree.

This is what you are missing. Cyberbullying is at its worse when people say things about you online and begin the threaten you. Once a portion of students see this and begin to spread this it is known as bullying. You do not have to be online. These people will threaten you and post public things about people. This is considered cyberbullying. You have to understand that logging off isn't fully avoiding the true reality of he situation.
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: No I don't agree

Cyberbullying is at its worse when people say things about you online and begin the threaten you.How can words make you feel pain? Once a portion of students see this and begin to spread this it is known as bullying.You mean in the case of social media sites. That's a different case. That is a case where the interactions can lead to the real world, where being hurt can actually occur. Though as the debate asks, that's not an example of cyber bullying causing a single, let alone a lot of, deaths. It's instead an example of cyber bullying leading to real world consequences.These people will threaten you and post public things about people.I still don't see how that kills even a single person.You have to understand that logging off isn't fully avoiding the true reality of he situation.So by logging off, I can still be affected by the person on my blog telling me to kill myself? How? Will his words somehow reach me through the internet and strangle in my sleep.
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: Yes I agree.

So apparently students aren't real world? Lots of students go through this and those who have died as being washed down the drain by your words. Cyberbullying is at its strongest in social media sites and students are attracted to them. When yours peers are all making fun of you and you can overhear their conversations it turns your world into hell. Its not a different case. This is the biggest case. It was my whole argument. The things people say will float around in school. You get funny looks and people snickering when you walk by. From my own eyes I know this is a terrible place to be in but to you they do not seem significant enough to help or even acknowledge.
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: No I don't agree

So apparently students aren't real world?That is a case where the interactions can lead to the real world, where being hurt can actually occur.That was my quote unquote line about students and the real world. Lots of students go through this and those who have died as being washed down the drain by your words. What killed them?Cyberbullying is at its strongest in social media sites and students are attracted to them.This is still not evidence of the phenomenal amount of deaths that cyber bullying has allegedly caused. This is just showing that kids shouldn't be on social media sites if they can't stand having their feelings hurt.its strongest in social media sites and students are attracted to them. When yours peers are all making fun of you and you can overhear their conversations it turns your world into hell.In the real world, yes. Online I don't see how when you can log off at any time. Why don't you see that. Logging off is always a possibility. Its not a different case. This is the biggest case. It was my whole argument.Your whole argument is how cyber bullying exists? Even if it does, that's not evidence in it's self of the outstanding number of deaths it caused.
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: Yes I agree.

Yet you still aren't realizing what I am saying. Logging off will jot save you from humiliation from your peers. What killed the students? Themselves. What influenced them to do it? The words from the cyber bullies. You must not have experienced true cyber bullying or either simply do not understand what it fully is. My argument isn't about how it exists. It is about those people who died. That cyberbullying carries weigh offline. That children are being influenced by the words from these people. Also how you still do not see how cyberbullying can influence suicide.
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: No I don't agree

Yet you still aren't realizing what I am saying. Logging off will jot save you from humiliation from your peers.If your peers are humiliating you, they are doing it in the school, or in the workplace, or wherever but they are doing it in person. At that point, cyber bullying has nothing to do with it. If they wanted to attack you verbally, they would have done it in person if you had never logged on to the social media site in the 1st place.What killed the students? Themselves.Boom! That's the ticker. They killed themselves because they weren't ready to use the internet and it's social programs. There is no reason anyone should feel a need to kill themselves over some harsh words, but if they do, it's no one's fault but themselves. People naturally have hateful things to say, letting those hateful things run your life is a personal issue. You must not have experienced true cyber bullying or either simply do not understand what it fully is.I have been told to leave sites, I have been told many times to kill myself. I have on YouTube been called a "Typical American slime dog" or something of that caliber. What cyber bullying you're talking about, where a group of people get together to belittle one person, they then commence to belittle that one person in the real world.What killed the person in the end was themselves, what influenced them in the end was the people, in person. If they had never joined Facebook, the people to insult them would have skipped over that means, and would have choose to do it in person instead.The issue still remains, where is this outstanding, high, lot of people that cyber bullying has killed?My argument isn't about how it exists. It is about those people who died. You said once in the beginning about the people who died from it, and not once again.That cyberbullying carries weigh offlineYet if that person had never joined the site, the cyber bullying would have taken place not online, but in person. Also how you still do not see how cyberbullying can influence suicide.Because in the end it's not the online words that make you want to go harry karry, it's the words and fear in person. If you are reading them then start thinking about suicide, you need to reassess your values.
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: Yes I agree.

Humiliation from peers in school from cyberbullying won't be face to face. To not be able to fit in society like you want to because everyone will mock you is nerve wrecking for most students. Theye killed themselves yes. What influenced that, which you avoided to mention, is the root cause. Cyberbullying is not just name called or threats from someone that you will never meet. Its about the degradation of your social life in school from kids who decide to mock you by using a mass media site such as Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc. In the end the kid who commits suicide was influenced by the actions of the cyberbullyies and how their life has turned to ashes. In the end this type of bullying is called Cyberbullying.
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: No I don't agree

Humiliation from peers in school from cyberbullying won't be face to face.If it's not face to face then it's no issue. I don't mean literally face to face I mean in person. If the snickering and name calling is happening, it would have happened any way.To not be able to fit in society like you want to because everyone will mock you is nerve wrecking for most students.How is that the fault of the internet. That is the fear of students, not the fear of anyone using the internet.They killed themselves yes. What influenced that, which you avoided to mention, is the root cause.They killed themselves because they weren't ready to use the internet and it's social programs.That was my reasoning, if the bullying happened online, and the person logged off the bullying would continue outside of the internet. If the bullying even took place at all, it would not have mattered that person was online or not.Cyberbullying is not just name called or threats from someone that you will never meet.Cyber bullying is the use of the Internet and related technologies to harm other people, in a deliberate, repeated, and hostile manner.I also never said that it was bullying in a settign with a person you'll never meet, I said "where a group of people get together to belittle one person" Its about the degradation of your social life in school from kids who decide to mock you by using a mass media site such as Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, etc.You addressed the other media, but you only limited it to students. 'Cyber bullying' can happen to anyone, not just people in school, it's biggest problem is when it's brought into the real world, yet at that exact moment it becomes not an internet problem but a real world problem it is no longer cyber bullying's fault, it's real world bullying's fault. As I said before, the bullying in the real world would have happened even if they had not joined the site in the first place.In the end the kid who commits suicide was influenced by the actions of the cyberbullyies and how their life has turned to ashes.I disagree, I believe that the issue online would have started in the real world if the person who was bullied, had never went online. The nature of people is to pick at people, they found it easier to pick at them online, but if they could not get to them online, they would have simply done what comes natural in person.  In the end this type of bullying is called Cyberbullying.In the end? So cyberbullying ends online? The log off, it's as simple as that.
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: Yes I agree.

You have no compassion whatsoever. Just admit that you do not care.
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: No I don't agree

You did not debate me, you simply called to light my differing emotions.My compassion, or lack there of, is of no concern in a logical debate.
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: Yes I agree.

Yes it is. Your attitude is very relevant in this debate. .
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: No I don't agree

No, my attitude is that bullying is bad, and that if I see a person being bullied I will try to prevent it. The debate doesn't ask, "What do you feel about cyber bullying" The debate says, "Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people: Agree or not"I stated, based on logical evidence provided, how it hasn't. No one but Lizzie has even raised a single logical argument against that.You certainly haven't.Quotes.I almost killed myself due to cyber bullying by conservative Christians.Regardless of the fact that that is you almost doing something to yourself over the things they said, it's not evidence showing the substantial number people cyber bullying has killed.I almost killed myself due to cyber bullying by conservative Christians.A repost.If you down vote without making a logical comment down voter, you are a coward. Probably a conservative Christian Republican.Nothing, not even a single word about Cyber bullying, it's affects, the number of people who have been killed, or anything relating to the topic.You are so wrong. All forms of bullying are harmful, and that does not make the victim less than human. Go ahead and down vote this too since you down voted my other post.No one said a victim is less than human, and with the statement "all forms of bullying is harmful, you gave no evidence. No numbers, no link. Nothing.I know what it is like to be bullied. My father abused me in every way possible, and it is a miracle that I am still alive. I was also cyber bullied by many conservative Christians. Do not tell me that bullying is not harmful. You do not know what I have been through.Personal insight, qualifies as logic, but when based off of facts like "A lot of people killed" it's not. The statement then goes into a whine about how tortured you are, and how much you've survived, yet doesn't go into a single fact about it's substantial number of fatalities.Cyber bullying almost killed me. .As I asked, How? That's not disputing your tale, it asking literally how? You still haven't said how, and what ever the answer is it won't change the fact that it has not killed a great deal of people.You have no right to dispute what has happened in MY life because you do not know me, and you are not God. I am not going to waste my time with a troll like you. You are probably a bully yourself. That is why you are defending bullies.Falling off of the point again, no where did you mention the point.------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ So I state simply. With no malice, with full intention of having this question answered. How has cyber bullying killed a lot of people. I need numbers for this to dispute me.
Debate: Cyberbullying online has actually killed a lot of people
Side: Yes I agree.

Are you not seeing what destruction it can cause? You seem to void it each time you post a reply to my responses. I never blamed the internet for anything. Bullying is still bullying. It not because they weren't ready to use the internet, that's silly, it because of how their lives have declined and continue to decline because of cyberbullying. All the example you gave of yourself only fitted your personality type and your experiences. Also one doesn't even need an account for cyberbullying to take effect. You keep saying cyberbullying ends on line when that's were it starts and it finishes outside of the internet. The critical reason I am continuing to reference students is because that's the biggest crowd of people affected by cyberbullying. The next level for the "real world" you continue to mention is practically hacking, tapping, or even spamming someone. That's is the "real world" terminology for it. This real world you mention. Do students not below to this real world? Are they not apart of this society? They suffer from things but you say that they should "grow a spine"?