Debate: Most poor people dont even try to save money even when they are able
Side: true

No, I'm saying poor people do not save money because of their financial situationIf you are saying that poor people cannot save due to their financial situation, then it is as I said. If you are saying they do not save, even if when they can, then you are in agreement with the OP.poverty and poor are not the sameNot if you specifically use definitions that make them different. However, Webster’s first definition of poverty is “the state of one who lacks a usual or socially acceptable amount of money or material possessions”, meaning that to be poor is to be in a state of poverty. This is more reasonable than concluding that poverty is synonymous with extreme poverty. A semantic argument will be more useful if you opponent is actually semantically incorrect.Let me tell you as a person who grew up poor, poverty and being poor are not the sameFirst, an appeal to ones own authority based on anecdote is fallacious. Second, poverty is a state of being poor according to the Webster’s dictionary. Your experience did not give you insight into this commonly excepted use of the word “poverty”. and I suggest you do not get the two mixed up.Since the error is yours, I suggest you consider your recommendations before presenting them.Using that logic, aren't immediate matters long term goals, in a way?No. They aren’t. Nothing i said implies this.Buying food, buying shoes, and working for at least minimum wage are all long term goals in the eyes of those in povertyNo, even for poor people, by which I mean people living in poverty mind you, food is an immediate need. The fact that many poor people cannot see past the short term only makes my point. The lack of having long term prospects does not transform short term prospects into long term ones.So, are you implying that it's the poor people's own faults that they're poor?When money isn’t saved due to a lack of long term thinking, then it is their fault insofar as it is the result of their own personal perception. Keep in mind that we are talking in terms of rates and averages. No individual need be offended by stats or averages.That it's their faults that they can't save money?The topic is whether poor people do not save money even when they can. It was you who stated that poor people don’t save money due to their financial situation. But as I pointed out, there are higher rates of alcohol and drug abuse amongst the poor. Spending spare cash on substances rather than savings, while claiming that spare cash simply cannot be saved, is a poverty mindset. Again, you are using the terms 'poor' and 'in poverty' as if they are interchangeable. They aren'tSee above. Or see Webster’s. Last thing, please do not act like you know more about the poor and those in poverty than people who were in those positions at one point in their livesA few things:-I haven’t acted smarter than anyone. -Just as I do not know your history, you do not know mine. So don’t pretend that you have experiential knowledge that somehow trumps my own, especially without any knowledge whatsoever of my experience.-Just as I do not appeal to unverifiable experience as authority, I recommend you stop the practice. It’s fallacious.I know everyone on this site loves to go on philosophical tangents, but it just doesn't work here.Your whole post was based on an incorrect semantical analysis and a misapplication of logic. If philosophical tangents don’t work here, I suggest you get back on point.