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Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

There is no 'straight marriage' it's just marriage and that is between a man and a woman. That's just how it is defined. Nothing personal. Why don't the gays just invent something els that's similar to marriage?
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

It's nothing personal to you, because you're not the person who can't marry the person you love.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

That's not what it's about it's about what marriage is. Why try to redefine it? It's ours. Make up your own thing and leave us alone.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: No, It Does Not

Why not the other way around Jake? Why not let us alone and let us be free to choose whom we wish to spend the rest of our lives with in marriage!
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

That's a terrible attitude. You seem to imply that gays are doing this just to bother you, not because they are being denied the rights that others take for granted. What exactly do you think you will be missing out on if gays can get married? How do you think it will impact your current/future marriage, or even any other facet of your life?
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

Marriage hasn't always been defined that way, and it will change again.Just like every word and tradition, it is subject to evolution.You say "leave us alone." nice.Well in Arkansas only married people can adopt. By making that law you have forced us to rally for marriage and nothig else. By treating domestic partnerships as lesse institutions you taunt us to fight harder.Were not attackig you, were defending our rights.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: No, It Does Not

Opposition to same-sex marriage arises from a rejection of the use of the word "marriage" as applied to same-sex couples or objections about the legal and social status of marriage itself being applied under any terminology. Other stated reasons include direct and indirect social consequences of same-sex marriages, parenting concerns, religious grounds,
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

Actually, JakeJ, marriage has NOT always been between a man and a woman. Sometims many men, one woman, more often, many women, one man. And in other ancient cultures, men could marry men, and women to women. This is fact, not fiction.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: No, it does not

Why shouldn't people have the right to redefine something that grew to be wrong and oppressive to a whole other group of people? If anything, using the word "redefine" is definitely the wrong word to apply in this situation. It's not about redefining, it's about FIXING; fixing the original concept of marriage that disregard those who were gay.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

They can find something else. They just refuse to. When you suggest allowing something like a civil union to gays, they are still not happy. Even when you suggest the same for straights. Its just about proving a point.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

Oh, and what "point" are we trying to prove?That whole equality thing? Or that silly freedom thing?I'm sorry we want rights! Didn't mean to bother you....
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

You will get both rights and freedom with the proposed idea of civil unions. I take it one step further and suggest that even straight marriage should not exist in the legal system. Let the churches have their marriage. People still say this is not equal rights. I fail to see how.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: No, It Does Not

We don't need to...the term and it's social definition are already there! It's about inclusion!
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

The term and social definition do not include gay marriages. Therefore, find something else.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: No, It Does Not

Then it must be changed to include it! ``````````````````````````````
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

That was already tried remember? The people didn't like that idea. [hence Prop 8]Wouldn't it be easier to create a different union?
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: No, It Does Not

Easier? Yes! But it must mean the same EXACT thing in every way.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: No, It Does Not

The people who don't like that idea are quickly becoming outnumbered. They're dying of old age.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

Thats fine, Im just saying that it would be better not to have to wait for the old conservatives to die. If they made their own unions they wouldnt have to.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: No, It Does Not

Well take the time to fight for equality, not settle for second class. Thanks for the offer, though.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: No, it does not

"That's just how it is defined". Marriage: the state of being united as spouses in a consensual and contractual relationship recognized by law(link: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/marriage#usage-1) ) No where in the definition does it say "marriage is only between a man and woman". Marriage is a partnership between two people. However, I do agree with part of your first statement: "There is no 'straight marriage' it's just marriage". Which I would believe is right. There is no straight marriage nor is their gay marriage, at the end of the day it should just be marriage; which is between two people that reach a consensus of having a partnership.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, it does

No where in the definition does it say "marriage is only between a man and woman". Marriage is a partnership between two people.Nowhere in the definition does it limit marriage to only two people.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: No, it does not

Nowhere in the definition does it limit marriage to only two people.Well, that's not true, is it? The definition says: "contractual relationship recognized by law" and polygamy is illegal in all 50 states.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, it does

polygamy is illegal in all 50 states.Yeah, it’s Islamophobic. In the predominantly Islamic countries that allow polygamy, it isn’t illegal (obviously). The definition of marriage still applies to them. Do you actually think the laws of the 50 United States should apply to the world?
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: No, it does not

I sense that a bizarre butchery of words is about to take place.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: No, it does not

A good refutation, if the argument was about poly amorous relationships.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, it does

Not a refutation so much as a call for consistency .
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

There's the percentage minimization: straight marriages falling to less than 100%. In absolute numbers, there might be cases of gay people who would before "marry straight" for convenience, but in a new setting can just "marry gay". Also, since I don't think all gay people were born gay, in a world where homosexual and heterosexual relationships are treated the same way, new generations might grow up with their minds open enough to choose either one. Comparing to the world we have today, where gay marriage is not exactly encouraged, maybe this would mean a minimization of straight marriages... But that's a nature-nurture issue...Anyways, I don't think marriages as we know them will be around for much longer... ;p
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

Same-sex marriage is a civil rights, political, social, moral, and religious issue in many nations. The conflict arises over whether same-sex couples should be allowed to enter into marriage, be required to use a different status, such as a civil union, which is usually more limited, or not have any such rights. A related issue is whether the term "marriage" should be applied
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

Gay marriage absolutely minimizes straight marriage, in the same way that women's suffrage minimizes male suffrage. It isn't necessarily a negative impact, but it certainly lessens the value for those who already held the right.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

You must change the pretext of marriage as already mentioned. Therefore, you are effecting everyone who has or will get married. Why not just change it to civil union? Before you attack about it not being the same, what if the government gave all the same benefits to civil union as it does marriage?
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

The word marriage is something that comes from religous background. It is a sanction between a man and a woman. By allowing it you are changing the definition and pretext in which a straight couple have got married.The word marriage, should not exist in the legal system. It is something that belongs in churches. Change the word in the legal system altogether and you will not have this problem.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: No, It Does Not

The word marriage is something that comes from religous background.The word "marriage" precedes religion, and so does its concept.By allowing it you are changing the definition and pretext in which a straight couple have got married.Nothing for the straight couple (or straight couples in general) would change. And the definition of marriage has already changed multiple times throughout history--both around the world and in America.It is something that belongs in churches.Not really.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

That is right. And no one is infringing on the rights of gays by referring to their unions as a civil union.The definition of a civil right is as follows:Civil and political rights are a class of rights and freedoms that protect individuals from unwarranted government action and ensure one's ability to participate in the civil and political life of the state without discrimination or repression.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_and_political_rights NOTE: the government is not taking any unwarranted action against gays in order to keep them from participating in the civil and political life of the state. In other words, gays don't need protection in the form of rights and freedoms. Specifically gays are not being discriminated against nor are they being repressed.Here's the definition of political repression for your convenience:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_repression NOTE: gays are politically active, they can vote, they have representatives and there are gays who hold political office. In other words, they are not politically repressed.And here's the definition of discrimination for your convenience:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discrimination NOTE: the only thing gained by a couple who has the title of "married" bestowed on them are benefits like tax credits. But the government is allowed to give away these benefits as it sees fit, to whomever it sees fit. In other words, this does not constitute discrimination.Now, please explain to me how gays are being repressed and how they are being discriminated against. I would also like to know which rights are being denied to them. Please keep in mind that rights are not benefits and that the benefits provided for under the term "marriage" are granted to gays under the term "civil union."
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

How does changing a word in the legal system to civil union for example, effect either party? The churches can keep their view on marriage, which has no legal bearring, and the gays can have their equal rights. Its a simple solution.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: No, It Does Not

How does changing a word in the legal system to civil union for example, effect either party?I never said it would hurt any of the parties involved. But there's no need to change it. Marriage is a good word that describes what is happening.he churches can keep their view on marriage, which has no legal bearring, and the gays can have their equal rights. Exactly. The churches can still keep their views on marriage with no legal consequence, and homosexuals can receive equal rights under the law without having to change the word. Just let them get married. Lying, fornication, and extramarital affairs (among many other forbidden acts) are all legal and churches and religious groups are allowed to "keep their view(s)" on these practices to no effect to the law.And to be quite frank, fuck how churches feel. They are independent and separate from the law. The law shouldn't--or have to--bend to the "feelings" of religious institutions when the law has absolutely no bearing on the churches view on the law or the law's referent either way.Its a simple solution.I agree. Let homosexuals get married.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

Simply changing the word, satisfies the opposing parties because they cannot argue that marriage is between a man and a woman. This solution better satisfies both parties. Its not about the church. Its about the people that attend those churches. Do they not have rights too?? They have a belief that is violated the way you are insisting it be done. Secondly, getting rid of the word marriage, gets rid of a priests LEGAL right to marry someone off. So, it only furthers your idea of churches having no business in the law. A priest has the right to marry someone religiously. Not legally.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: No, It Does Not

Simply changing the word, satisfies the opposing parties because they cannot argue that marriage is between a man and a woman.Civil Rights aren't about satisfying opposing parties. It's about social equity and justice.Its about the people that attend those churches. Do they not have rights too??Their rights are not in question. No one is infringing on their right to do anything.They have a belief that is violated the way you are insisting it be done. Beliefs aren't rights. And no one certainly has a right to not have their beliefs violated.Secondly, getting rid of the word marriage, gets rid of a priests LEGAL right to marry someone off.Priests don't have a legal right to marry anyone beyond the ritual itself. That's why you can't just go to a minister, say "marry us", he/she says "okay", does the ceremony and it's legal. You have to go through a civil process. The wedding is just a ritual/ceremony and priests, pastors, ministers, preachers (whatever) have a legal right to perform the ritual. I have no problem with that.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

The solution I am suggesting, does create social equality and justice.As someone has pointed out, religion goes back a long way and marriage goes back with it. Why would you change the definition of a word that was never yours? Just use different terminology. Problem solved. Of course you will never agree because somehow, this is still a violation of rights. I fail to see how.Finally, people DO have the RIGHT to their beliefs!
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: No, It Does Not

As someone has pointed out, religion goes back a long way and marriage goes back with it.Marriage's etymological root stems from a civil context--not a religious one, particularly as we know it from its Latin root.Why would you change the definition of a word that was never yours?Never "mine"? No one owns the word to begin with, so I don't see your point.Just use different terminology.Marriage has a civil history. It's use is still civil. There's no reason to change it. All that's left is to expand it to allow gays. No need for legislation change, or word change.Of course you will never agree because somehow, this is still a violation of rights.Section 1 of the 14th Amendment of the constitution. Quote: All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Finally, people DO have the RIGHT to their beliefs!Which I never questioned. I simply asserted that beliefs aren't rights and don't have to be respected. So, for instance, you can believe that all we've gotta' do is use a different word, but that seems round-about.The solution I am suggesting, does create social equality and justice.If equality and justice are the goals, then it doesn't matter. Just let homosexuals get married.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

If you can reach civil liberty and justice, while satisfying both parties. Therefore, ending this issue forever, why not take that route rather than having the religious folk protesting at every election?Your quote of the 14th amendment is pointless because I am not proposing we deny them anything.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: No, It Does Not

Completely agree with your statement, however not with your position. Marriage is still a choice for couples. If there is a decline in marriage the factor is not just gay marriages. If the question of the debate is whether gay marriage is leading to less straight marriages, the answer is no. this is a ridiculous assumption. maybe the wording of the debate is not too clear..
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

If there are no gay marriages then all marriages are 100% straight marriages. If there are gay marriages then straight marriages are less than 100%. Hey..., you asked ;)
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, it does

You sir, have owned this debate. All those facts were true and very, very convincing. Heterosexuality does increase procreation. My mind is blown...
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: No, it does not

Except his facts didn't prove that same-sex marriage has a negative effect on opposite sex marriage.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, it does

It redefines marriage, primarily negating the fact that marriage serves the purpose of procreation. Two gay people can live with each other, be kind to each other, but gay sex is immoral. And to call the union of two gay people a marriage, detracts from the meaning of being married - which is to bring new life into the world through a natural reproduction.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, it does

Does Gay Marriage minimize Marriage in any way?Yes it is adding a sexual idea into someone’s visual description as witness, it is then asking to make confirmation of this in/on an official documented public process. If I agree as a witness with the suggestion, plagiarism, sexual undertone I am asked to commit perjury. A person would need to violate a right to privacy to be able to witness the explained thing/ public likely-hood. Confessing the hard to prove perjury publicly, I am given no common defense, the public is given no common defense to the admitted guilt other than inability to understand the crime by its complexity, and the person who admits must wait for the statute of limitation to run out. The problem is like homicides the limitation may never really take effect till after the fraud is identity publicly. Another point of minimizing takes place on the level of immigration part of the original context of filing for Marriage license is to acknowledge the creation of a Nations growth directly. Couples of marriage share a different regulation on citizenship as children are expected by consent to marriage, consummation of the marriage was the united state equal to all men and woman couples including gay men and lesbian woman.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

This was the topic of the show on NBC that comes on before the office. It bothered me that both sides were not represented well.The truth is that yes, gay marriage minimizes heterosexual marriage in a severlEy minute way in that it makes heterosexual not the only type of marriage.But that doesn't mean that individual heterosexual marriages would or should suffer.Straight people are just being selfish bitches.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

Way to categorize EVERY person of a certain lifestyle into one insult.What's next "Black people are just being misogynist assholes.""Gays are just being perverted fuckers"."Asians are just being reckless driving dickheads".
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

Wow, I attack stereotyping and I still get down voted.I guess it's different if you're defending a "white, straight, male Christian".
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

Yours was a silly and cheap shot that didn't need to be acknowledged.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

The statement that I made was attacking the fact that YOU were stereotyping straight people.I am a straight person and I don't care if gays get married. So in this case, I'm not "just being selfish".
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

You said, "But really, marriage isn't that great. No reason for a straight person to get all bitchy about the fact that gays can get married."They were both generalizations. I could say the same damn thing about you.(Warning to Jake: I'm about to use grown up talk, so don't read any further, ok?)Just go teabag your hooker's balls and fuck off, Pyg. You're a waste of air, so start blowing.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: No, It Does Not

I said " NO REASON FOR A STRAIGHT PERSON" you said "Straight people are".I did not make a generalization. You did.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

They were both generalzations.And the topic suggests I would be talking about people opposed to same sex marriage.You just needed something to bitch about, so now it's grammar. Great life you've got there... really stimulating, I bet.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

I didn't say that SOME GROUP OF PEOPLE were acting or being a CERTAIN WAY. so I wasn't generalizing.I was just saying that there was no reason for anyone to do certain things. The exact opposite of generalization.If you're going to be a bigot, you better learn how to do it right.
Debate: Does Gay Marriage minimize Straight Marriage in any way?
Side: Yes, It Does

(Warning to Pineapple) You just got down voted for pissing me off. Nothing about that was as you put it; "grown up"...