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Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

People don't seem to realize that it is not weapon's that win a war, but people. America has nukes? Russia has nukes? So does China. Missiles? China's got them. Technology doesn't matter because people create it. Sure America, Japan and some european countries have much more technology but most of the "Superpower" weapons came in a time of war when they were needed.China has grown in a to a country capable of the ingenuity required to produce this weapons should a war arise and they have a much higher amount of people to do so than any other country. Now it is possible that should a war arise alliances like NATO would manage but it is very doubtul that any single country could beat one with such a great labour for force; such a great human factor.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

"Now it is possible that should a war arise alliances like NATO would manage but it is very doubtul that any single country could beat one with such a great labor for force; such a great human factor."That is just the thing. If China goes to war with anyone it won't be a single nation. There hasn't been a one-on-one confrontation in centuries. That great labor force wouldn't do much good in a long term war. If you bomb factories, fuel depot's, ports, railways, etc. you can take bites out of their economy and military production. Another factor people forget is experience. China hasn't fought anyone in years. In fact I guarantee they don't have enough weapons & supplies to support all those millions of able-bodied men. Countries like America, Great Britain, Canada etc. all have battle-hardened troops with numerous tours of duty under their belt.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

The cockroaches, most likely to survive and inherit the destroyed Earth.China is to big now for it to be a conflict it would be WW3.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

If the US went to war with China, neither side would win, though China would probably come out ahead. Each country has so many allies, and such powerful weapons, as well as having a large population...China and the US are both gargantuan nations. I think that if they went to war, it would probably be WWIII. And everything is so globalized, as opposed to WWI or WWII, that every country would probably be involved, each one wanting to be on the winning side. ... We'd wipe each other out.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

That funning . Once china in war . what about the other ? As usual ? So funning . Anyone need the third world war ? So come on .Tell me what you can get from the war with china . And what you will lose .
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

I think stealth planes can not destroy china, because it was defeated in Yugoslavia even by the simplest Russian rocket.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

Take into the fact that Vietnam war was against people with some guns and they held their own. Imagine against the Chinese....there are MORE Chinese to mess with....no effing way can anyone win against them. That's why no one attacks them... They'd be stupid and asking for suicide.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

I'd like to say a normal no, but the concept of a "war" has changed drastically in recent years. This debate would have been better if their was a goal to the war like take over japan or exterminate the other side or militarily dominate the other country.Realistically if there was all out war it would just be nukes so there wouldn't really be much of China (nor other countries) left. If it was a conventional war assuming nuclear weapons didn't exist, I'd assume that Americans goal would be to conquer and turn China into a democratic country similar to what it did (or at least tried to) in Vietnam, Iraq and others. In that scenario the USA would probably fail, with the huge population of China as well as a pretty solid nationalist population, which would resist foreign takeovers. USA could probably easily destroy most of China's navy and airforce with much ease. The hardest one would be the army, the large army even if badly trained wouldn't be easy for any army in the world to defeat without sustaining heavy losses.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

I am a fellow american but i just don't think we can defeat china at all. if you had done some history on the korean war the north koreans got a cease fire because of chinas use of geurualla tactics. The americans were drilling bombs every minute on chinese fortifications. this already shows how wimpy we are. and the soviet union just supplied weapons to the chinese not men or training. Nowadays american soldiers are just cowards, im not saying i could do any better, but all the countries america has invaded over the past decade, have been weak countries who can't defend themselves and the americans claim they are fighting the taliban. True we are leading the chinese in military advancement, but it's to unrealistic that we will invade them, it would cost to much and to many lives would be lost to bare. But this may be hard to swallow but i think china will be ahead of america in military advancement in 30 years.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: Yes, doable

Listen Aaron25, I am a first lieutenant in the US Army. We are not cowards by anyone's standards' and i resent the implication. We are the most couragous army to ever walk this earth and i would put my platoon up against any country's army. We claim we fight the taliban? Bullshit. We do. Or if you don't think so, ask any afghan villager out there. They know who are and what we stand for. Maybe the real reason we reason we haven't looked like we have won these wars is because after we completely destroy an army we then try to rebuild the country and leave it better we found it. Give people making ten cents a day a chance for a better life. And maybe you ought to think about what you are doing by saying we are cowards. You fucking try it. Be a man and stop getting down on men and women giving up their lives to make sure you can live a great life where you can sit in your nice little air conditioned house and criticize the people who give you what you have.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

China is a big country with the biggest population in the world. They have strength national cohesion especially in the face of disasters.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

I'm a brit, so i feel that my view on the usa vs china is probably more fair than most other contributors. firstly, i think that in conventional warfare, china would probably dominate the usa, on the grounds that their population is over a billion people, and they estimate that they have already 700+000000 soldiers fit for service, with millions of reserves. contrary to american beliefs, i dont think the PLA is paticularly untrained or ill equipped-there are an estimated 120,000,000 AK-47's alone in the world, and many more can be made (china has an ak47 variant called the type 56), as well as the fact that china makes its own weapon systems (eg qbz-95). Of course this is all dependant on what the strategy for war is-who makes the first move, invasion, annihalation etc. I dont think any LONE country could invade china, but defence against an invading china may be easier-home turf, ambushes, traps etc. on neutral ground, i would be leaning toward the sheer bulk of china against all nations (usa has 600 million less personnel, japan has 660 million less, russia 610 million less).
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

I'm a brit too, and i agree with everything said aboveGO Britain
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

"i think that in conventional warfare, china would probably dominate the usa, on the grounds that their population is over a billion people"- do you really think that they have the money, the time, or even the power to utilize that many people? They really don't."i dont think the PLA is paticularly untrained"- the Chinese army is known to be very badly trained."defence against an invading china may be easier-home turf"- it would be impossible for China to invade the United States.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

Yes completely agree with you!!:) As u told they don't have the time and many volunteers to draft them like there's no tomorrow!!That is almost impossible because they have chosen republic as their government of all things!!!:)
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: It will never happen

Guys have you gone nuts?! It is impossible for a country to invade another country. This is because the U.N.O. would never permit that. If a country invades another country, then the they will have to leave the country the very next day and if they don't want to leave then all countries who are U.N.O. members can wage war upon them. Well I am an Indian and I tell you that Chinese army is extremely weak. It is even backed off by India. In the Indo-Chinese war , even when India was just developing , the Chinese lost but they would never want to express that to the world so they signed a peace treaty with India , the fucking Chinese !!And people should also realize that the U.S. army is the weakest army. While most countries appoint military men who are strong and courageous, the U.S. army only depends on technological advances and if an Indian soldier were to fight an U.S. soldier one-on-one, the victory would surely be the U.S. soldiers' because of his weapon, but if they were to fight with nothing at hand the Indian would easily knock down the U.S. guy in one blow.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: yes, doable

You're stupid. I honestly am almost speechless at how stupid you are. You're just proving how arrogant Indians can be. Did you forget the 2008 South Ossetia War? Georgia was invaded. All parties are guilty of human rights violations. Google it or something. Your condescending cordiality of two of the biggest countries in the world means you need to read a book. AND this debate isn't even about India. Holy Hindu.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: NO WAR

hloy cow>>>>>>>>>u indians are nuts......u think chinese army is weak???haha..when did china signed peace treaty with india when????in war of 1962 who do u think lost????india suffered big humiliation in that war....and the whole kashmir that indian maps shows in reality doesn't belong to india at all....there is line of control(loc)with pakistan and china.....Aksai chin thats abt the size of switzerland now is controlled by china.....in 1962 if china had wanted then they could have reached new delhi....u ffucking moron......haha just watch out for china's development how its economic growth is growing.......in another 10-20 yrs china will surely be a super power....
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

It is a great mistake in the past when American government who regarded with China only focused on Soviet Unions with the Cold War, and no mention with China. Do you remember in the ending of 20th century, China only used bicycles on the whole country because they are afraid of earth warm with CO, but that time, they concentrated all the money for the fishy purposes in the future, but most of the countries on the world did not think about this. Now, they accumulated a lot of money and they have become the second rich country just behind the U.S, but America is in debt with China. They fought the U.S about the economy in order that the U.S gets weaker about this, and the U.S. only focuses its budgets in the country without mentioning many things on the world. Therefore, China is easy to do everything they want like recent crisis on the South China Sea.On the 21th century, China also uses ancient policies by occupying the territory of the smaller countries so that they immigrate their Chinese People to. For Example, Burma, Vietnam, Ukraine. As their proverb: " any place there is the grass, over there, it has Chinese people."If China wants to attack the southeastern countries to occupy some or all the islands on the Partly relate to Philippines and Vietnam, because the amount of oil and natural gas there is so much. Moreover, they can enlarge their navy not only in Pacific but also Atlantic to replace the power of the U.S navy or at least, they also want to divide the influence with the U.S. Sooner or later, the third world war also will happen to China, because they make a great deal of complication on the South China Sea, and the largest threat with the world.Anybody also recognizes that weapons of American military is number one, no country can compare with the weapons of the U.S.If the war happens between the U.S. and China, I believe that U.S will win because the U.S has NATO and the southeastern countries, even India also dislikes China with some the border wars in the past. To make a peaceful life for the human-being and to avoid the bad results later on, how to separate China into many smaller countries as well as the Soviet Unions did.......
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

What many of you fail to realize is that much of our weapons and equipment are made by China. Not only that, but China itself is still technically a communist country, so if they wanted to, they could create a draft and force as many people into the military as they want. They also are bound by NO Patton laws, so not only have they copied much of our technology but they get away with it. Just a few months ago they produced a new jet that was awfully similar to one we put out a few months prior(that's because it was exactly like the one we made, but instead of English the labels were in Chinese). I hate to say it, but not only would not stand a chance, but we would get obliterated.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

No, I don't think any country could, but some might be able to. China has a huge population, and is well organized. Their military force is defiantly formidable, even though there are defiantly other countries that are dominant.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

Anything is possible. But if China's miltary performs as well as the products they make, it would be a very slim chance of winning any war. They would probably forget to change the oil in the tanks and break down, ect. That is also under the assumption that no other countries would go against China as well. If there was another war of that scale I would say it would be China & Russia vs the world, good luck.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

i do not beleive that anyone could over take chian, knowing everything that they have over there they could probably blow everyone up with the click of a button.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

On their own, no, but if China attacked a country such as the US, Japan, or anybody in Europe, other countries would ally with them. If China theoretically attacked Japan, the US would attack China. When this happens, the UK would attack China, and the rest of the EU would follow. Because of this and other alliances, the US, Japan, the EU, South Korea, and Australia would likely be at war, and they would win. But, if all of these countries were at war with China, China's allies such as Russia, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and Vietnam would join the war. When Iran joined, Israel would likely use this war as an excuse to attack Iran, at which point Syria would attack Israel. When this happened, the rest of the Arab League could attack either Syria and Iran or Israel. It could go either way. It would be like the Cold War + WWII. It would likely end in a nuclear war, with neither side winning.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

Im sorry but there are soooo many mistakes here. I heard US has the most nukes? Russia doubles them with 4,000 (they used to have 44,000) and that US, Japan, and Russia had around 600,000,000 personnel, but none of them have that much population. But if i had to say on who would win, it would be neither. It all depends on Russia and India (from a geographical standpoint). In one on one China already proved they can take on the us without even one tank during the korean war by pushing the us from near the Chinese border to the middle of the country when they both called for a treaty. But if this is a massive war Russia and India will have to enter, and if they choose to side with the US then China will be surrounded and almost tripled in numbers. You all forget, in personnel, Russia is only a few 100 k's away from the US. if they choose to fight against US than they will be on the defense ( Russia might have to defend against the EU ) until the US will lose too many lives and pull out ending the war (The Chinese and its allies will not get very far if the send for a land invasion against the US but a sea war would be inevitable).
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

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Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

From the my-dog's-better-than-your-dog perspective, China is not impenetrable. China's biggest issue would be unity and cohesion of its people, but there's actually a more pressing point: NO ONE WINS IN WAR!!!! EVER!!!! EVER!!!! EVER!!! EVERYONE LOSES. There's nothing left after a war. The notion that someone WINS in war is wrong thought.Everyone loses.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

I think this would most likely fail in trying to defeat China, China has people power and money wouldn't stop them from doing so there way's is different to the west if they really wanted to take the US they could easily do so, money is everything to the west and its how most of the west sees things everything costs or has a dollar sign written on everything around them and its why things slow down because its costing us the mentality of money, wealth & Greed. To the Chinese if it came to war Money would have very little meaning to them at all if it came to a war, they have already got people in every country to just follow orders and boom things would start rolling however I think China has no interest at all in invading other countries there interests are themselves an that is all if they discovered another planet no doubt they would most likely take the first step an that opportunity to move there entire country there. And it would be foolish to take on China it would be far to risky not just for the US but globally. They have already got Economic power over the rest of the world Currently and that is there take on war right now so wars of the future will be completely different to the ones that most of us are so used to be seen today. The Chinese are not as silly as most would believe to be.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

to be honest an awful lot of US technology has been 'stolen' from other country's and also china are in a much better economic stance to have a major war than the US, a lot of people are forgetting that china's allies such as India and North korea which will gladly support china in a war, US allies mainly focusing on Europe and SK would not be willing to engage in a conflict.Brazil which has a growing global presents has gained close ties with china depends on china for its economy and so would almost certainly send troops to china or america,Africa has debts to pay to china after major development their by china.Mexico has long had a grudge against america and so if the chance came would assist in subduing america
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

Simple, if china invades, they lose, if we invade, we lose. They don't have 1000 military bases all over the world, so they'll probably be defending and win as a result.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

No. China has a population of 1.3 billion people. If you were fortunate enough to invade China, you could never beat them. It would probably be a worse defeat for the Americans than they sufferer in the Vietnam war or the war of 1812.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

if all the people in china went on a rampage they could destroy any country they like
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

ok there's alot of good points here, but you're all forgetting who wrote "The Art of War". Enough said. LOL
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

Confucist and sun tzu. the chinese have been great strategists in forming armies and warfare dating back to the han dynasty in 300bc to 200 ad which rivaled if not surpassed the roman empire. Not to mao zedongs gerualla warfare tactics.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

i think people are forgetting the fact that most immigrants come from Asia into the U.S. If U.S.A did go to war with China they would probably find mass murder in their own country before anything else could happen.
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

its amazing how in the debate title it says "Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them? " and everyone just atomatically switched it to "Can the U.S defeat China if they went to war against them? ".
Debate: Can any country defeat China if they went to war against them?
Side: No, almost impossible

a little prediction on what will happen if U.S.A and China go to war with each other.(I AM NOT SAYING THIS WILL HAPPEN)U.S.A's options1. nuke china- if they do that all the stuff they buy will have to come from somewhere else like India, Russia or Japan. BUT India will be panicing due to nuclear radiation. i doubt Russia will help because of the Cold war and i think Japan is still annoyed about the end of WWII2. invade China- this brings up lots of problems like where are the troops going to land and in a country as crowded as china I doubt they're going to get around without being seen.3. call on Europe-most of Europes in debt at the moment and most countries there are angry at U.S for ripping them off during the war.4.invade China by sea-this is the most successful one so far but someone is bound to spot a giant fleet of warships across the pacific ocean and anyone in Asia would take offence. Soon the U.S finds the whole of the the East arming themselves and preparing to attack.And with most manufactured goods come from Asia the U.S.A find themselves with nothing.