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Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

1997 Jan Arke Reporter of Fox owned News Station in Florida was told to lie and conflict with fact of a story! She would not and was fired and sued! She won the Law Suit and the jury said the Fox Owned news company provided false, distorted, and slanted story. Fox appealed the suit and in 2003 had it overturned. Lawyers argued under the First Amendment Broadcasters have the right to lie or deliberately falsify news reports on public airways and won the appeal! SO You Tell ME What Fox News Is?
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

Hahaha, i like very much how over double the people think it is propaganda! it seems, over double of the people are right...
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

I fear for you, America. With right wing authoritarians swarming like flies, you're headed into a fascist dictatorship. Fox News is wingnut propaganda.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

FOX News is not fair and balanced and caters to the Right Wing.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Neither

Propaganda v. Fact. Almost all American television news stations (CNN, MSNBC, Fox ...) have placed a greater emphasis on the entertainment aspects of its content in recent years. The soundbites and images used to introduce pieces and fill the gaps within news segments is evidence enough. Each news station is fighting for its own audience and the ideological slant of this audience is reflected in both the hosts, their guests and treatment thereof, and their audio-visual tools.Just as is almost every news organization in America, Fox's newscast are based on facts, which are then packaged for their target audience accordingly. And it is no surprise that Fox's primary audience leans to the far right (whereas MSNBC leans to the far left and CNN leans to the left).So while I agree that Fox is not reporting "just the facts" in the absolute sense, I would argue that no American news station does so. But is Fox News propaganda - is Fox deliberately spreading information to further the right wing cause or damage the left wing cause? I would argue that Fox, like CNN or MSNBC, is responding to the desires of their primary audience by packaging the facts in the most attractive and entertaining manner. I don't believe their involved in some larger grand scheme or take cues from the GOP - Fox is simply pandering to their audience, who, for the moment, would rather hear the talking points from the right than the left.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Just the facts

Nope, nothing wrong with Fox News. They haven't gotten things wrong("lied") more than any other news station. While I will admit that most of the people on fox news lean towards the right, they give both sides of the isle a chance to talk. Even if it was a bunch of right wing agenda(it's not) it would only balance things out a little. I mean, look at some of the other news stations.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

"they give both sides of the isle a chance to talk."Oh yeah, us liberals are free to talk on Fox... We just aren't allowed to defend ourselves when our statements are taken out of context, correct you when you misquote or misread soemthing for the benefit of your stance on a topic, or have the last word....Other than that, we may speak....
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Just the facts

"We just aren't allowed to defend ourselves when our statements are taken out of context, correct you when you misquote or misread soemthing for the benefit of your stance on a topic, or have the last word...."1. Sure they are. 2. When does any of that mumbo jumbo happen? Be specific. I feel like you are assuming all of that. 3. Are you perfect and in position to judge? Or are you against msnbc for those same things?
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

I think the quintessential example of that is Kurt Vonnegut's obit done during FOX News (that's FOX News, proper - the self-described "fair and balanced" part, not FOX News punditry). What better example of not letting someone defend themselves is there than mercilessly attacking a dead man the day after he died?And this also addresses the false equivalent that FOX News is only as bad as the other ideological extreme (whatever that is). Case in point: Find another obit as ruthless as this one DURING A NEWS BROADCAST on another network. You simply can't (or, maybe you can. prove me wrong.).
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Just the facts

I really don't understand how this cult of "Fox trashed Vonnegut" thing started. I've seen the video, I've seen the trashy responses, and none of it adds up.The obituary was done to a Vonnegut style. It actually sounded like a big fan of his work wrote the piece.but if you don't read his work... I guess you wouldn't understand.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

Wow. That's an interesting take. So, "Despondent leftism"? The "Ill say it for them" bit at the end? Trying very hard to paint someone as irrelevant who clearly wasn't (all one need do is look at the sales of Man Without A Country to effectively counter this.)? None of that strikes you as editorializing a news piece? You think he really wanted his kids to have him remembered as an unhappy man?
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Just the facts

It went with the quirky style of his entire writing. How everything can be very important, but hey, who cares? Irrelevance was an irony. A Nihilistic irony for an artist, especially.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

Eeeeh, I'm kind of with you, but I think that's really grasping pretty hard for an explanation. It still doesn't explain "so I'll say it for them" (if it's meant to say 'who cares' as you offer it, then there are a lot of more creative - and tactful - ways to say it), and more importantly, it still doesn't answer the question of how it belongs in a news broadcast.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

I've been busy lately, so I haven't been watching television much.... but I can rememeber quite a few so called liberal "guests" who were just pulled through the fox news wood chipper.Now you can watch the whole clip, but I'd suggest starting 3 minutes in if you don't have the time.Laura only lets her say what she agrees with.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Just the facts

Are you retarded?Did you watch it all?Laurie counters the arguments. She doesn't "slience" her. The feminist is sterring from them....Dude, you contradicted yourself.....
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

She interrupts her and never lets her finish a statement.Btw, not a dude... and not retarded.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

The fact that Fox News is a right-wing news channel should not be an issue, since media should be plural and news is subject to relative opinion WHAT IS CONCERNING HOWEVER IS CLAIMING TO BE FAIR AND BALANCED WHEN YOU ARE NOT, NOW THAT IN MY OPINION IS PROPOGANDA ON FOX NEWS BEHALF.Being right wing is one thing but misleading people to believe you are unbiased in opinion is SO WRONG especially considering the fact that this news channel reaches a frightening amount of people.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: The Editors not the staff are biased

I agree with Nomza. On the point that Fox News is misleading in that its underline is being "Fair and Balanced." Its not, at least not realistically. However, neither is MSNBC or CNN, realitically. They reach the same number of People, more or less. However, the application of the facts, which is the system used by all (Reliable) News Stations is a theoretical structure for the elimination of bias entirely. Based off of this, Fox News, MSNBC, nor CNN are liable for their Bias Directly as its the people on the show and the way in which information is packaged by the Editors that make shows lean one way or another. I personally watch both Fox and CNN, Fox for the interviews and CNN for everything else. Being a Liberal Fiscalist, these two combined seem to level each other out. As such, I would NEVER call Fox News ULTRA RIGHT WING PROPAGANDA and generally agree with Nomza as a whole.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Just the facts

It's really neither. Fox News separates there programming into two. There's news, which is Just the facts, and then there's entertainment which consists of the debates that we all love. Fox presents both sides of the argument very well. People will talk about how O'Reilly yells at his guests, but that doesn't change the fact that his guests still got to present their view. O'Reilly just criticizes them for it... yeah, because he's a PUNDIT. They're entitled to opinions, and that's what the show is all about.And for PR sake, the people who run FNC make sure that it gives exactly equal airtime to both sides of the spectrum.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

There's news, which is Just the facts, and then there's entertainment which consists of the debates that we all love.Actually, their news, which you claim is "just the facts", often parrots the talking-points presented by their opinion shows, which in turn often parrot the talking points of the GOP almost verbatim. And there's often very little distinction between the two. It also doesn't bode well that the news segment of Fox News takes up maybe 10% of the programming schedule. A simple look at it will tell you that Fox is, first and foremost, a commentary network and not a news network.And for PR sake, the people who run FNC make sure that it gives exactly equal airtime to both sides of the spectrum.Which is... not true. A simple look at guests and right-leaning slant of "news" coverage--as opposed to reporting--suggests otherwise.But even more important, Fox News is a propaganda network in the literal sense. Rhetoric is when a person uses language for the specific purposes of convincing someone else of a certain position. And propaganda is language used by an institution to convince others of a certain position. And Fox certainly uses language (editing and coverage) for the specific purpose of convincing others of a certain position--and it's more than often Republican, Conservative, White and Christian. And it functions in such a way that reality is distorted and events misrepresented.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Just the facts

Wow, I really thought you were a well-informed person all the way up until here. It's almost as if you don't watch Fox News at all.New coverage is actually a lot like Local news, a reporter asks simple questions and an anchor tells a report. Now, I haven't watched any news for a while, but from what little i do watch now it seems that Fox is still doing their duty when it comes to News. I am not a right wing person (if you don't believe me, I will lay out perfect examples) but I can still realize that this whole "FAUX NEWS BE BRAINWASHING, YO!" bullshit is really just some kind of misled fad. I guess the real reason it started was because of Rupert Murdoch being the head of News Corp. And yes, Fox makes sure that both sides of the argument have equal time to speak in their entertainment shows.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

You appear not to really understand how Fox "news" works.Step 1: Put on your "opinion" people like Beck to make outrageous ridiculous statements then disavow responsibility for broadcasting them because, hey, those are just the opinion guys. We never claimed anything they said was factual or anything!Step 2: News guys report on the news about how "people are talking" about startling new allegations... without mentioning that the reason they're talking about it is because the guy in the next time slot after them started it the night before. But they ARE talking about it (now). So that's just reporting the news to say so! We're still not saying it's true! Wash, rinse, repeat.And did you happen to turn the channel on during the multi-month period when it should have been renamed "Fox Tea Party Event Promotion"? They were actively telling people to come out for Tea Party events. Constantly. And it wasn't just their opinion guys. They weren't even pretending to be a news organization. At one point they were even advertising "FNC Tax Day Tea Parties" on air for crying out loud.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Just the facts

Beck is the largest Libertarian voice on Television. Why in God's name would a network that wants money shut him up? The man has an opinion that pisses off so many people, but it's an opinion that's very controversial. and you want him censored because Libertarianism isn't Liberal enough for you? Sorry... this ain't MSNBC.You can just watch Geraldo Rivera, though... that guy is pretty Liberal and a lot of people hate him too. Or Watch O'reilly. He's more of a Cultural Conservative Humanist. That guy pisses off people too.Sean Hannity, the guy you probably hate the most, is an outright Conservative. He pisses off people as well. But which one do you think should be censored? All of them? Or how about none? Let them speak. 1. Gets Fox News the most ratings and the most money.2. Good to have a variety of opinions.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

I'm desperately searching for a single thing you said that was an actual response to anything I wrote... and the closest it gets is that we're both talking about Fox, and we both used the names "Beck" and "O'Reilly".Other than that, zip. Were you even trying to respond to what I was saying? How the hell did you get off on a censorship rant in reply to a critique of whether or not a new channel is propagating propaganda?
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Just the facts

You said they allow Beck to say w/e he wants... as if it's somehow a bad thing.Is it? If not, then what are you bitching about when you bring up Beck?
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

No I did not say "they allow Beck to say what he wants". Clean your monitor. As for what I'm bitching about, try actually reading the post. I'm bitching about the manner in which Fox "news" uses it's "opinion" people to manufacture controversy which they then have their "news" people report as if they hadn't just finished creating the story they were talking about in a different time slot on the same channel.I was also bitching about the fact that there are times when they simply abandon even the pretext that they're a news channel and just openly employ the network as a propaganda tool, like when they turned the entire thing into the Tea Party Promotion Network last year. They weren't even pretending to be journalists.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

No one's arguing that they aren't entitled to their opinions, it's funny watching stupid people confidently present a false point. And even if they do give both sides the same airtime, only people like you would think that has any merit. The reason it shouldn't be taken seriously is because no one but ignoramus's watch fox news so it's only to appease their own audience into thinking they are giving a fair chance for another view. Fox News would be the last place where anyone who cares to hear both sides of an issue would go, stop flattering yourselves.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Just the facts

I would like to point out that if Fox News is "Ultra Right Wing Propaganda", then what would NBC, ABC, CBS, and basically every other news station be classified as? Fox is one of the only stations that is not ultra left wing "propaganda".
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

The reason I put "ultra right wing..." as one side of the debate is because of how many times Ive seen Fox news people use this rhetoric to describe all sorts of different opinions (ultra left wing, that is) , it seems to me that if Fox news was the only source of information I had, I would have to assume that everybody except fox news where "Ultra left wing" something or otherI think It is a cheap trick that pundits use, a form of name calling, so that they need not criticize the argument of the opponent but just assume him as some sort of "un-american" loon(another name-calling device) And when you think about it, there is no major station (that I know of at least) that is more right wing than Fox, and that by definition makes them "ultra" right wing - not that that has to mean anything very serious (in the same way that I dont take it seriously when pundits sway away from arguing issues by using this sort of name-calling.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

I would like to point out that if Fox News is "Ultra Right Wing Propaganda", then what would NBC, ABC, CBS, and basically every other news station be classified as? Fox is one of the only stations that is not ultra left wing "propaganda".I would like Tu to meet quo and que.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Neither

What the hell?What kind of arumnet is that? Another sand-based argument.Get out.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

If you actually think that you're a moron. Im a conservative and i have no difficulty seeing what a joke fox news is.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: they all are propaganda

you people act like this is the only news staion that strongly caters to one political party or another. fox is just the most well known right wing based news organazation so they get the bad reputation for reporting the side of the news that caters to right wing beliefs. every news organazation is byisted one way or another so why just point out one if you are going to debate one you mine as well debate whether all of them are propoganda.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: they all are propaganda

I actually agree. I dont think there is any such thing as unbiased news. Even when a reporter strives to be unbiased he/she can never be sure he/she isnt unconciously so.Still i think Fox news is the most, or at least one of the most blatantly biased news station and yet they put much emphasis on being "fair and balanced"
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

Why do I get on here and just end up hating college kids a wee bit more every time? Well you know what, I won't answer that question because it is irrelevant. Fox News is just slightly shifted to the right. If one were to watch Fox News' actual news programs, one would find that it is slightly centered to the right. What many people are going by, are Fox News' opinion programs which are all moderately right wing. Now, although they are scheduled for primetime and are what most people see when they turn on Fox News, they do not claim to be merely reporting programs like "Headline News," on CNN or like local news broadcasts.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Neither

It is really neither.Rush, and Shawn are radical conservatives. They have a lot of facts, but hand-pick them. But I still like them.While Glenn Beck is probaly the only guy there on FNC who shows just the facts. I see no facts that are not verifiable. His argument Health Care was great, along with many others.FNC is mixed up. I look to local news for verifiable facts.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

Glenn Beck? Facts? lol, no.Beck on cars.gov.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Just the facts

He gets one thing wrong so you reason to believe nothing he says is fact? Hmmm sounds like thats what you want to think.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

He's also wrong about global warming. So that's two things.He said Obama has a "deep-seated hatred for white people". So that's three.I'm sure I could find a million more things if I could bring myself to sit through one of his shows.http://www.sltrib.com/opinion/ci_14120150
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Just the facts

"He's also wrong about global warming."He is? Prove it. "He said Obama has a "deep-seated hatred for white people". So that's three."Well he was talking mainly about social justice and he was actually correct. So we're still at one. "I'm sure I could find a million more things if I could bring myself to sit through one of his shows."I'm sure you couldn't, even if where open minded enough to watch his show. I bet you could find a lot of things you disagree with maybe, but that's not the same.
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Ultra Right wing Propaganda

He is? Prove it."Two questions were key: have mean global temperatures risen compared to pre-1800s levels, and has human activity been a significant factor in changing mean global temperatures.About 90 percent of the scientists agreed with the first question and 82 percent the second."http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/01/090119210532.htm Well he was talking mainly about social justice and he was actually correct. Obama does not hate white people. That is an outrageous thing to say. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Where's your proof?It's not that I'm too closed-minded to watch his show. I see myself as quite open-minded, actually. I just recognize that Beck's show is dishonest and watching it would be a waste of time.Seriously, the guy is pissing on your head and telling you it's raining. And you believe him!
Debate: Fox News: "Ultra Right wing Propaganda" or "Just the facts"
Side: Just the facts

Those questions don't prove that the earth is warming. The earth is cooling.http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8299079.stmhttp://www.businessandmedia.org/articles/2009/20090114065138.aspxhttp://www.isthereglobalcooling.com/global_cooling_questionshttp://www.universetoday.com/2009/12/17/ earths-upper-atmosphere-is-cooling/ http://www.onenewsnow.com/Politics/Default.aspx?id=68277 -And the first question wasn't exactly a clear and cut "do you believe in global warming" so it's kind of skewed. "Obama does not hate white people."That's almost exactly what Glenn said, did you even see the video? I admit that he worded it a little weird but please listen to what he says before you take it out of context next time. "I see myself as quite open-minded, actually."Sure you do. It's like you're to closed minded to realize that you're closed minded. "I just recognize that Beck's show is dishonest and watching it would be a waste of time."... Then don't criticize it! Unless you listen to what the guy says you can't criticize him without taking him out of context. I mean really, how can you know?