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Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

Though I do not know that person and I have no reason to do this, I would like to apologize on his/her behalf. Jesus Christ was about loving thy neighbor and turning the other cheek. He didn't scream at the Pharisees that they would burn in a lake of fire whenever they questioned him or his teachings. He spoke with wisdom and eloquence. "I dare you to think"! That was a good one.For those on here wanting to judge or condemn people for questioning the existence or the divinity of Christ, you should be ashamed of yourselves. Even Mother Theresa struggled with her faith, she admitted that in an interview before her death. If you have never questioned your faith, then you really don't have faith. What you have is called brainwashing.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONTRIBUTION. I BELIEVE THAT IT WAS ANTHONY LUDOVICI THAT SAID IN FAIRNESS TO THE INFIDEL, HE AT LEAST HAS QUESTIONED HIS FAITH AND WILL HAVE MORE RELIGIOUS OBSERVATION THAN SOMEONE WHO BLINDLY SWALLOWS THE FAITH THEY WERE BORN INTO.I AM NOT HERE TO OFFEND CHRISTIANS. I JUST SEEK THE OPINION OF OTHERS AND ASK QUESTIONS TO TRY FIND THE TRUTH...... THAT MAY SCARE SOME PEOPLE. ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

You are most welcome. I hope that horrible reaction to your comment will not leave you with a bad opinion of Christians. We are not all like that. Thank you for the reference to Ludovici, I like that. When you struggle with your faith and question the things you were raised to believe, it can be very difficult, to say the least. I have been on my journey to knowledge and understanding for a long time. Answers are not easy to come by.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: YES

you are a rare one lovely lady ,very rare....................have a nice day.......................................:)
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

how blasphermous are you? you sound like you wrote the law itself. i believe that there was a really cool dude by the name of jesus who was somewhat of an ecentric for his time and who was not afraid to stand up for his moral beliefs and someone who was also accepting of diversity of free will .but i never imagined that he was so condemnig as you. typical christian - anything but like like the jesus you all portray.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

Was there some guy named "Jesus"? Perhaps. There were probably many. There may have even been a number of miraculous "saviors" during that time. Was the "Jesus" from the Bible a real person? Almost certainly not. The Bible's writers and compilers probably took a large number of stories about a number of people and shoved them together into one person. Not only do the Bible's accounts of what Jesus was and did contradictory at times, but there are large gaps spread throughout the text. Non-Biblical sources mention people named "Jesus" from the area, but do not back up any of the Bible's claims of who Jesus was and did. Alot of myths centered on a single person are usually condensed versions of deeds, hearsay, myths, and legends spread throughout communities and folklore. The pagan cultures did this constantly: the Greek gods (such as Zeus, Hera, or Athena) had many contradictory tales told about them, and it has been found that many are the combination of many gods and goddesses. In some cases this was a result of conquest (assimilating local populations into the empire's religion), and in others it was just a way to keep religion under control, concise, and understandable. The Bible's god "Yahwey" is actually an amalgamation of many ancient Hebrew gods from the various tribes. This is, of course, true of almost all current popular gods from Islam's Allah to Buddha and Vishnu.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

1. "Christ" implies divinity, and most certainly was not his real last name even if that person did walk and breath and all that. And since there's no such thing as a god, and since if there were he most certainly would not impregnate a virgin and demand that person be tortured to death for our sins later, Jesus Christ certainly never did exist.2. I hate to break it to the DaVinci Code Christians who love to mix their history and faith into some pseudo logic insanity, but there is 0 evidence anywhere in the world about this person outside of the Bible... and please believe you Christians are looking all the time, you could have cured cancer with the effort put forth to find this elusive evidence.3. There was never anyone named Jesus from that period. It was some other word that meant salvation or the way of something along those lines which was later mistranslated to Jesus. At any rate, that name was about as common as Michael, or David, every down and out woman wanted to believe their son was divine.4. The entire story of Jesus is plagiarized from one of the Egyptian gods, from being born of a virgin, to being a carpenter, right down to being sacrificed for other people's sins. They are equally believable. Though if I were to believe one insanity or the other, the Egyptian gods were way cooler. Maybe I should start a church.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

There is proof that he was real , you walk on it ,eat on it,see it,smell it,the world, he created the world ,there is your proof ,END OF STORY!
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

you can see dog shit too, but you dont neccecarily want to see it smell it or walk on it or eat off it and if god did exist i bet hed ,like most ,would be the first to say " I didnt do it"
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

No.This is how the earth was created linkYou believe a magical daddy in the sky created everthing, but there is no proof of that.I mean, what you say makes no more sense than if I said a mystical giant unicorn created the earth. That theory is backed up by just as much evidence as yours is.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

what you say makes no more sense than if I said a mystical giant unicorn created the earth.No because you don't actually believe that. Your just using it to make a cheap point.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

What I believe is irrelevant. If I did believe that, there is an equal amount of proof for both. One sounds more ridiculous than the other only because we're used to it.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

What I believe is irrelevant.No it's not. Because a belief has to come from something, and yours about a unicorn came from nowhere. One sounds more ridiculous because you wanted it to. To make a cheap point.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

No.Belief always comes from nowhere originally. Otherwise it is knowledge.If stories of Unicorns creating the Universe had been passed down for two thousand years, and someone made up a bunch of cute anectotes, and put them in a book, and called that book holy,then a whole bunch of people would believe it.Kind of like what happened with the real religions.Actually exactly what happend with them.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

THere is no proof that the earth was created by a "big bang". No proof what so ever.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

The fact that the universe is expanding is evidence of the big bang as well as background radiation and the residual temperature of the vacuum of space. These are all evidence of the theory YOU claim there is no proof of. Now, besides the fact that a book written 2000+ years ago, what proof do YOU have?
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

1. Talk about having your fact wrong, Christ does not imply divinity. Jesus Christ is son of God, immaculately conceived by the virgin Mary (note immaculate means "not impregnated" and a pregnant virgin).2. Is there an argument here, do you have proof you are withholding? I believe in gravity and the sun, I don't float away and the world is lighted and warmed every day. No one has every touched the sun or illustrated gravity, it just is.3. Unsubstantiated claim, support your claim with evidence not speculation. Do you have evidence of Alexander the Great or Attila the Hun?4. Hieroglyphics translated much later, how could it be plagiarized. Jesus and the people of the time spoke Aramaic and few could read the written word. To further complicate the first version was translated to Greek first. Prophecy predates the bible and all predictions came true.Maybe you should start a church, do you have anything worthwhile believing in?
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

1. Yes it does. The son of god is supposed to be divine, the christian faith believes him to be divine, and it certainly was not that person's last name even if he did exist.2. You have proof of gravity and the sun. There's no proof of Jesus Christ.3. Yes, there is evidence. There are multiple historical documents recording their existence. On the other hand, the only place Jesus Christ is found is the new testament, meanwhile no other historical documents contain any such person. On top of that, there is something to be gained by the religious to pretend that that person existed and to continue to insist upon his existence, while there is nothing to be gained by simply making up those other people.4. All predictions only came true if you believe Jesus Christ was a messiah. Other than that exactly 0 predictions came true. And since even if that person ever existed, he certainly was not the son of god, then exactly 0 predictions came true. another thing to be noted, none, zero, zip, zilch of any of the new testament was written until at least 500 years after that person supposedly existed. And even these documents from 500 years after his existence, as you pointed out, have been translated and mistranslated and lost etc, many times. I mean, the religious are already trying to rewrite who the founders of this country were only a couple hundred years ago. What makes you think the religious would not have changed so much more about the guy from whom they derive their world influence?I most certainly should not start a church. I'm against all religions, I think they do more harm than good, and they contribute significantly to the dumbing down of societies as a whole, as demonstrated by basically this entire debate.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: NO

i agree with so much of what you are saying.so very intelligent.although i have tagged yes in this debate it is only in regards to the existence of another human being.i was baptised a catholic and made my holy communion and at that young innocent and gullible age was romanced by it, believed and even preached the religion. I even wanted to be a nun when i grew up.Im so damn glad i didnt. now at the age of 37 after a whirlwind of a life full of hard factual experiences(theres been easy ones also)and after trying to find "god" through all the different religions, i have learnt there is no almighty powerful "god"as such. just a lot of frightened people hiding behind a cloak of faith.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

Jesus was not a real person, but a ficticious character developed by the playwrite Aavid in ancient Rome. Aavid wrote this play to demonstrate the folly (with tounge in cheek) of the amassed power of then Octavian Augustus Cesar. The play was put on by slaves and was turned into a movement that swept accross the middle east being told from one slave to another. At one point, Jesus had in upwards of 6 different names, performed different miracles etc. The council came together for one reason to unify these different groups into one cohesive understanding. The original manuscripts where found and destroyed by the Vatican however one was found by Hypatia of Alexandria in the Library of Egypt (also known as the library of Alexadria) to which she was murdered in the street by an angry mob of christians at the behest of Biship Cyril who was then later named a saint. Another was believed to be held by the Knights Templar as leverage over the Vatican. The "pagan" influence is real. The birth life and death of Jesus is a story of celestial events. For example, the Three Wise men following the brightest star in the east to the birth of the son of god is something that happens every year on december 24. The three stars that make up orions belt ( known as the "three wise men" line up directly with the brightest star in the eastern sky (sirius) to point to the sun as it ends its procession at its lowest point then beings its treck back up again. The days become longer and warmer. Hence, the three kings follow the brightest star in the east to the birth of the SUN. Jesus, from a pagan perspective, represents the age of Pisces and is symbolized as the fish. Moses, Aries (the ram) etc. You can consider him a solar messiah. Nobody who wrote any of the gospels knew Jesus, these "stories" where all second and third hand knowledge and many of them where contradictory to one another. The idea of Jesus as a person and Christianity was a movement was also fostered and fed by the Roman Elite as it made it easier to keep the slaves under control as it brought into their world a concept they had never thought of before, Fate. Think of passages as "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle, than a rich man to enter into the kingdom of heaven."
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

Thankyou ................................................................................................ just thankyou.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

whatever it was or not, we think he was around 2009 years ago.just take it, in such a long period of time, myths will mix with factsyou cannot seperate them.he was there, to express his divinity, many people wrote about him differentlyevery gospel says different thingsgospel of judas says completely different thingsso at last we can conclude that???????????we cant conclude anything 'coz we dont know anything, except what is written in books
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

There are too many other messiah-like figures of other religions that predate Christianity that share Jesus's story down to the very last detail. His story is of the sun and the stars.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

Please will someone guide me to real concrete evidence that suggests he was a real person at one time because I have not seen any.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

I read a chapter in the Qui'ran and there is mention of someone special was to come to earth and reveal to us of our Creator, and His love for us. I believe the Messiah was called Muhammad. The Jew didn't respect Him as a Deity. They just thought of Him as a prophet. But He was much more, whether His name was Jesus, that I struggle with, seeing that, that name is a Roman name. In case you all didn't know, Egyptian's are todays Spanish people(Mexico, Spain). The Jews mixed race with them, along with none african jews. which are todays Canaanites (Which consist of: Austria,Bulgaria, Hungary, Italy, Romania, Albania, Greece, Turkey, Slovenia Croatia, Bosnia, Cubans, and Latino nationalities (Which are also called Babylon). They do a lot of witchcraft because of their ancestors and they adopted a lot of rituals and beliefs. Such as, the day the Messiah was born. Along with other beliefs in the Christian faith that was made up and added from rituals celebrated around 600 BC that now we celebrate, that has no relevance whatsoever but to keep there pockets full and us filling them. In actuality, Muhammad was said to have risen over 4000 years ago, 2000 years before Christ. Why won't the Christians allow the Muslims to visit the place the Messiah has risen, and why are they fighting for the same person, yet a different name? Does that make any sense to you? In Revelations chapter 11, verse 8. Is where Our LORD was crucified.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

Sorry to correct, but Islam views Muhammed as a prophet. Jews, Muslims and Christians all have the same Abrahamic roots. All believe that Jesus was a person not a diety, not a God. To Jews a man and perhaps a false messiah, to Muslims a lesser prophet, to Christians God's son (God in flesh), a messiah (saviour of Jews and Gentiles). The Triune God is a difficult concept to understand three in one, one God in three forms, but still a person. You're right is doesn't make sense Jesus should be the unifying thread that connects all of these religions under one God. In one way or another we are connected, created by the same God or share the same blood as a mixed race.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: Agnostic

How can one know whether or not he existed? The only documents that claim his existence are typically not accepted as reliable/credible. I do not believe there is sufficient credible evidence to support the claim "Jesus did exist" nor the claim "Jesus did not exist".
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

There is no historical evidence to support his existence and the bible isn't a reliable source for it is a religious book.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

Jesus a real person? Possibly. It's highly likely these stories are exaggerated claims about a really cool person who was pretty good at tricks or was simply a great, caring person.Jesus CHRIST, as in implying his divinity.... no.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

If jesus was a real person, Philo of Alexandria would also written about him [jesus] in his Early Jewish Writtings such as the "On the Embassy to Gaius". There is NON not even a single mention of jesus in this Writting, so jesus was never a real person, NO
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

jesus was never, never, never a real person, NO, because if jesus was a real person the son of god and the Biblical accounts are accurate, then why is he so glaringly absent from the other historical accounts of the jesus time? WHY?and / orIf jesus was a real person but wasn't the son of god but rather just an ordinary person, then how did nothing more than a "marginal Jew" become elevated to the status of god so shortly after his death and earthly burial? just HOW, can someone tell me?
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

jesus was not a real person because the only source of his story is only the gospels nothing other than the gospels, how is this possible? why did other historians not write about jesus if he was a real person?
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

There is no historical proof, physical proof nothing that proves Jesus's existence. That is fact.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

Jesus, as a human being, probably existed. Jesus Christ (implying divinity) as the question specifically states Jesus Christ; probably not.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: NO

i think if this topic is at all unclear to anyone you should go to anywhere books are sold, buy an NIV bible (easier to understand) read it, and find a good bible church to regularly attend.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

that's ridiculous.I would suggest that if anyone is unclear about this, the last thing they should do is grab a bible or go to Church.Instead, read a history book. That time period is well documented. All kinds of people are mentioned in that time and in that area,none of which were Jesus Christ.And since History books don't take donations, sway political opinion, or give individuals a means of power over others,I tend to think history books are more honest about the whole thing.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

(You're on the "no" side, just so you know- you could edit your argument and tag it as "yes", if you're like. Just so you know =) )
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: PLEASE EXPLAIN

TO FLAME---Where did you go , just after you chose not to forgive , but instead cast me out as an enemy ? I just happened upon a very good argument posted by a debator named "caged" in your debate about Jesus being a real person.Caged posted this 24 days ago. Why did you not bash this person with sections from your bible , considering his argument is so controversal to your damned beliefs ? What frightens you from taking on the truth ?..ENLIGHTMENT ...........(YES i know i called it Flames debate , thats because you took it on board like as though you was this "GOD" himself ! ) Blasphomy in the highest form!
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

And now instead of any reply , you just act like a terrorist and point bomb me . Well i know you didnt forgive me for not having the same oppinion as you , so why should i be suprised.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No body knows

If Jesus Christ was a real person where did all those magical powers came from that's talk about in the bible and why we humans today don't have that power?
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

Hello Savant,I. Define Terms:1. History: By its most common definition, the word history now means "the past of mankind." Compare the German word for history -- Geschichte, which is derived from geschehen, meaning to happen. Geschichte is that which has happened (Gottschalk, Understanding History: A Primer of Historical Method, 41).2. Historical Method: The process of critically examining and analyzing the records and survivals of the past is here called historical method. The imaginative reconstruction of the past from the data derived by that process is called historiography (the writing of history). By means of historical method and historiography (both of which are frequently grouped together simply as historical method) the historian endeavors to reconstruct as much of the past of mankind as he can (Gottschalk, Understanding History: A Primer of Historical Method, 48-49).3. Scientific Method: ...related to measurement of phenomena and experimentation or repeated observation (McDowell, More Than A Carpenter, 33)II. Your points:1. "If Jesus Christ was a real person where did all those magical powers came from that's talk about in the bible...?"2. "..why we humans today don't have that power?"III. Refuttal:I believe that you misunderstood that the debate deals with the question of "Was Jesus Christ a real Person?". That is, it is a question of the past, hence history. In order to know if Jesus of Nazareth from the Bible was indeed a real person, than you have to do it by "examining and analyzing the records and survivals of the past" (Gottschalk 41). You can not measure an historical event because it is the "past" and therefore not repeatable. Thus, you can not prove that a person existed in the past by using the scientific method. For example, you can not even prove to me that somebody attacked you physically with the scientific method. You would have to prove that historical event by historical method. That is you have to gather evidences such as, fingerprints, blood samples, eye witness, etc.IV. ConclusionTherefore, your argument is self-refutting and makes no sense at all.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

There are no other humans that had God for a father. Maybe the world would be a better place if God fathered more sons and daughters, too. Jesus was sacrificed so that you and I could talk about these things.
Debate: Was Jesus White?
Side: yes

People of middle eastern descent are considered caucasoid by social anthropologists. Thus, he was white.
Debate: Was Jesus White?
Side: No

white?Really?North west Indians are considered caucasoid. Does that make them white?
Debate: Was Jesus White?
Side: yes

Is white white? I am caucasoid, but my skin color is a pinkish-reddish-tan shade of light brown.
Debate: Was Jesus White?
Side: No

Yes. You're white. There's no point splitting hairs. You know what the term white defines.
Debate: Was Jesus White?
Side: yes

Middle Easterners count as white. So I would have considered him white.
Debate: Was Jesus White?
Side: No

Since when have middle easterners counted as white?There may be some whites in the middle east. There may even be light skinned middle easterners. They're not white though - otherwise they would be europeans, a different skin tone.