azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

I could easily say "what if science is disproving the existence of "God" and we don't even realize it?" That isn't the point, the point is, IS science proving god? Is there evidence from science that leads to the conclusion of god? evidence doesn't inherrently support or oppose anything until we use logic to conclude what evidence supports what. That statement doesn't make a point at all, it just points out HOW the opposing side CAN make a point.
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

I could easily say "what if science is disproving the existence of "God" and we don't even realize it?"How? What would science have to go off of? We have not knowingly observed a god before. They would have to know all of God's supposed features in order to disprove his (or its) existence.It seems to me that as far as the universe goes, science just points out the ingredients.That isn't the point, the point is, IS science proving god? Is there evidence from science that leads to the conclusion of god?Science probably will never be able to prove or disprove God. If anything, they may eventually come to a point that they can not explain, and that may pose the question: God?evidence doesn't inherrently support or oppose anything until we use logic to conclude what evidence supports what.UFO sightings are evidence of aliens, even though they may just be witnessing military technology. Bigfoot sightings are evidence for Bigfoot, even though it may just be a guy in a suit, or a bear. Near-Death-Experiences are evidence for God and the afterlife, even though they may just be having some strange after-death dream. All of this may not be scientific, but it is still evidence for those particular things.That statement doesn't make a point at all, it just points out HOW the opposing side CAN make a point.Lol okay, so then it is a point? Cool!It was simply food for thought. People often look at scientific findings as disproving God, but I was just pointing out that what if we were to look at it in another light, as proving God?The guy who came up with the Big Bang theory was ecstatic when he discovered it, because he considered it to be evidence FOR God... But many people disagree and interpret his theory differently.
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

How? What would science have to go off of? We have not knowingly observed a god before. They would have to know all of God's supposed features in order to disprove his (or its) existence.It seems to me that as far as the universe goes, science just points out the ingredients.Exactly my point, we don't know if science is proving or disproving god, where we are unaware. otherwise we would be aware of it. I want REASONS to believe in god, and that most likely as far as I can tell be evidence for god. Not just the possibility, I consider god a possibility, just not a probability.Science probably will never be able to prove or disprove God. If anything, they may eventually come to a point that they can not explain, and that may pose the question: God?That would be an argument from ignorance, which if people already acknowledge as faulty, we are likely not to do so as we progress.UFO sightings are evidence of aliens, even though they may just be witnessing military technology.No it isn't. It is evidence of an unidentified flying object. We can't logically conclude that unidentified flying objects are necessarily extra-terrestrials. Bigfoot sightings are evidence for Bigfoot, even though it may just be a guy in a suit, or a bear.Or the evidence might be faulty. Near-Death-Experiences are evidence for God and the afterlife, even though they may just be having some strange after-death dream.I wouldn't call it an "after-death" dream, the brain doesn't die for a few seconds, and within those seconds, as we start to fade from the world, we probably go into a sleep mode that creates a dream that manifests the strange sensations we feel when we die.All of this may not be scientific, but it is still evidence for those particular things.Unless logic says otherwise.Lol okay, so then it is a point? Cool!It is a point to one person via their logic, but not to another person, but whose logic is better, is the real point.It was simply food for thought. People often look at scientific findings as disproving God, but I was just pointing out that what if we were to look at it in another light, as proving God?Science doesn't disprove god, it just doesn't support it in my opinion. The guy who came up with the Big Bang theory was ecstatic when he discovered it, because he considered it to be evidence FOR God... But many people disagree and interpret his theory differently.I don't know of anyone that actually makes the argument that the big bang disproves god, that is the image that we have, but I have never heard someone say "god doesn't exist because of the big bang" though I do hear a lot of extreme christians saying "the big bang never happened, god did it."
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

I want REASONS to believe in god, and that most likely as far as I can tell be evidence for god. Not just the possibility, I consider god a possibility, just not a probability.You need to find your own reasons. Block out the nonsense being fed to you by over-the-top atheists and organized religion. They're both ridiculous. You have to come to your own conclusion. In the end, you may still doubt "God's" existence, but at least you came to that decision without being fed the thoughts of someone who thinks they know more than they really do.No it isn't. It is evidence of an unidentified flying object. We can't logically conclude that unidentified flying objects are necessarily extra-terrestrials.Dude, did you even read the rest of that sentence?I wouldn't call it an "after-death" dream, the brain doesn't die for a few seconds, and within those seconds, as we start to fade from the world, we probably go into a sleep mode that creates a dream that manifests the strange sensations we feel when we die.So within those few seconds someone can have an hour long dream? Have you died before?Unless logic says otherwise.Yeah, if you think you are some sort of genius who holds the answers to all of the world's mysteries. It is evidence. It may not ultimately lead to aliens, Bigfoot, or God... But it is still evidence.It is a point to one person via their logic, but not to another person, but whose logic is better, is the real point.Neither. It was a question. We don't know the answer, we just have a bunch of people who think they do. They live their lives with their head in a box, rejecting any idea that conflicts with their current beliefs. The sad part is that other people listen to them.Science doesn't disprove god, it just doesn't support it in my opinion.You must know what to look for then.I don't know of anyone that actually makes the argument that the big bang disproves godYou've been away from CD for too long then lol.
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

You need to find your own reasons. Block out the nonsense being fed to you by over-the-top atheists and organized religion. They're both ridiculous. You have to come to your own conclusion. In the end, you may still doubt "God's" existence, but at least you came to that decision without being fed the thoughts of someone who thinks they know more than they really do.The thing is, is I already do, if someone wants to convince me their is a god, well god is a very vague term that has been redefined a million times over, but something I would call god, would be some sort of supreme being, or being responsible for everything else but him/her/itself. They would have to give me a compelling reason to.So within those few seconds someone can have an hour long dream? Have you died before?I don't know if it would be EXACTLY like a dream, but something of the like. It could even be a hallucination, however I am not fully convinced it is necessarily experience of an afterlife. For all we know, as the brain shuts down, the person's perception of time is being tampered with. Wouldn't be the craziest thing to happen within the mind, and our perceptions of time change all the time. Hell if I go into a building with no windows and then come back out as the sun is setting or has set, I surprise myself sometimes.Yeah, if you think you are some sort of genius who holds the answers to all of the world's mysteries.No I don't, but I'd rather rely on what I can conclude, then think something while not understanding why. If my capacity for logic doesn't lead me to believe that said evidence points to said possibility, then under what means do I have to think the possibility is more than that? If someone produces a logic, that ultimately makes sense to me, then I will be compelled to agree.It is evidence. It may not ultimately lead to aliens, Bigfoot, or God... But it is still evidence.it is evidence for "something", this thing may not be a big deal, or it may be and be what people think it is, or it may be and be what people don't think it is. Everything is evidence for something, if that is what your point is, then I agree.Neither. It was a question. We don't know the answer, we just have a bunch of people who think they do. They live their lives with their head in a box, rejecting any idea that conflicts with their current beliefs. The sad part is that other people listen to them.My point was, was your statement was ultimately pointless, I did say it pointed out HOW those of belief can argue for their perspective, but it didn't directly have that point, so in that sense it was pointless. You must know what to look for then.Could you elaborate?You've been away from CD for too long then lol.I could see people bringing in the big bang to make god unnecessary, if someone else was trying to assert that god was necessary to explain something, but I can't see someone going "because the big bang happened, god couldn't have existed.:
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

The thing is, is I already do, if someone wants to convince me their is a god, well god is a very vague term that has been redefined a million times over, but something I would call god, would be some sort of supreme being, or being responsible for everything else but him/her/itself. They would have to give me a compelling reason to.If we exist for eternity, would you really be upset that your experience on earth wasn't perfect?My point was, was your statement was ultimately pointlessIs that really necessary? If my point didn't do anything for you, then ignore it. I don't need to continually read how you thought it was pointless. I thought it had a message, you didn't catch it, move on.Could you elaborate?You apparently know what kind of attributes "God" has, or should have.I tried to keep that response short, since we have like three arguments going at the same time.
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

Is that really necessary? If my point didn't do anything for you, then ignore it. I don't need to continually read how you thought it was pointless. I thought it had a message, you didn't catch it, move on.You know... fair enough.If we exist for eternity, would you really be upset that your experience on earth wasn't perfect?Though I must ask, what made you think that I am at all upset with my life?
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

Though I must ask, what made you think that I am at all upset with my life?I wasn't talking about you in general. People often complain that life has too many flaws to have been created by a god. I don't look at it that way.
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

is he also Cancer, HIV, plague, starvation, genocide, pedophilia...?
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

No. I would not worship evil. .
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

I don't necessarily believe in God as in the Judo Christian God but I do believe there is more to what we see on this earth and in this life what form that takes I don't know, whether it's the Great Spirit, God or the multitude of old God's or even something we're unaware of.It's one of those mysteries we won't discover until the end of our journey in through this life
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

What do you base your belief on if you do not subscribe co common religions/cults?
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

I am like him and I bet he will say they are based upon experiences that can not be explained but happen to everyone.
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

Like what ?
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

Gut feelings too. I've been going through some tough times lately, and sometimes I feel like turning my back on God. However, there's some great preaching at my church, and the Youth worker there helped me get back on track. Through all of this, I've been sure that someone's up there, someone bigger than science, who's going to be there at the end.
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

Like Gratedebator said my beliefs are in part due to life experiences that can't be explained but I am also open minded when it comes to things like religion and belief, I've always been interested in different cultures and their beliefs but I have yet to find a "traditional" religion that suits me (for want of a better phrase), they all have their good points and their bad points and obviously as I said in my original post we won't know which one is right until we reach the end of our journey. Some people would think reading that paragraph that, that would make me an Agnostic of some kind but I do believe there is a higher power, I'm just undecided what this higher power may be.I guess I'm just a student of life and I am a member of the Church Of The Latter Day Dude and an ordained Dudeist priest which is a pretty easy going religion and is far from traditional!!
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

so you simply follow the crowd ... without actually thinking about it.
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

Far from it following the crowd would just be blindly following the same religion I was brought up with and taught in school without questioning, instead I have questioned and researched different religions keeping an open mind trying to find my own way, how is that following the crowd?
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

You are just a "picky sheep", you do not follow a specific delusion, you just make one up from multiple others...I really don't see how is better mixture of mythologies from one mythology. ...like "No no no, I'm not eating only horse shit, I also eat some cat and dog shit, therefore I do not eat shits..."
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

Ad hom attacks are not logical debates. .
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

I was just trying to make my point, obviously you did not get it...
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

No you were being a Prick, you asked about my beliefs so I shared you then went on and decided that because I believe in a greater power of some kind unlike yourself its ok to attack. If your point was to be a Prick I got it if not I missed it.
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

I wasn't meant to be a prick. By higher power I assume you mean god/s not a gravity like force, something conscious am I right? You are British, so most probably a Christian/Anglican?Because logically belief in god/s without being a member of some religious group/cult is impossible. It makes word "god" as valid as "Gandalf" without the Lord of the rings book.
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

It could be the Judeo Christian God, the Great Spirit, one of the multitude of old Gods, an unknown entity who knows and I think you can believe in something without being a member of a religous group without that belief losing any of its validity
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

It is completely without validity, you believe in a magical creature but not the only source that mentions it...
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

I'm not sure what your saying as your sentence doesn't make sense, are you saying I believe in a higher power (a God or whatever) but not the theology that goes with it? If so you are wrong nowhere have I said that I don't believe in the different theologies that organised religion offer, what I've said is it's just that I have yet to find one that suits me, that does not mean that I do not believe in the possibility that they could be true. I am not presumptuous enough to assume that the unknowable is right or wrong I have my view based on my knowledge and experiences and that's all it is neither right nor wrong, you can take it or leave it, it makes no difference to me. You may not believe in a God and someone like Srom for instance believes in the Christian God I'm not going to tell either of you that your right or wrong because that's your belief it's not provable and it's unknowable and to tell someone their belief's are not valid because they don't fit in a certain box is just not cool.
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

Most Brits are Atheists or Agnostics. Only 37% of the UK believe in God. * 8
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

Be you, be free, be happy. Let not the bitter ones control you. :)
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

The Dude abides
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

Awesome. :)
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

Why? What evidence is their that you see for anything other than material?
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

I've had experiences in the past which just cannot be explained just weird shit happening which cannot be put down to any material cause, it's no proof of a God also it's no hard proof of any thing Supernatural but to me it point's in the direction of the possibility of there being something else other than us, also I like to think that there some kind of afterlife or something more than just this life, reincarnation, Heaven, Valhalla, I dont know what and like I keep saying I have no proof, no evidence it's just a belief of mine.None of us have any proof that there is or isn't anything after we die or there is or isn't a God so saying for definite that there is or isn't or that one religion is right or wrong is erroneous as we wont know for sure until we die any way and then it's too late to say I told you so anyway!!
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

If some creating force didn't exist flowers wouldn't bloom colorful petals with delightful scents.
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

What do you mean by creating force?Also, colorful petals and scents help attract insects and birds who help aid in the reproductive process. I don't understand why you think this is not possible without God.
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

What do you mean by creating force? Not gonna bother answering that because I'm astonished someone claiming to know so much about a topic has no clue what the hell I'm talking about.Don't play stupid, it makes debates way shitty.And in case you are being serious, a creating force as in a conscious direction for things to evolve. And I never said it wasn't possible, all I am saying is something, not physically, but some type of force or something that's unexplainable is telling the flowers to bloom a certain way, it directs them, guides them, just like everything on the planet, its all life force.
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

I'm astonished someone claiming to know so much about a topic has no clue what the hell I'm talking about."Creating force" is a vague term. I wanted you to clarify so I could know what characteristics you believe this force has.And in case you are being serious, a creating force as in a conscious direction for things to evolve. Why must it be conscious? all I am saying is something, not physically, but some type of force or something that's unexplainable is telling the flowers to bloom a certain way, it directs them,Its not unexplainable at all. Its chemistry and physics. guides them, just like everything on the planet, its all life force.Most things on this planet are not living and never have been. Unlikely that lifeorce would be everywhere
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

If some creating force didn't exist flowers wouldn't bloom colorful petals with delightful scents.this is a valid reason why homeschooling should be banned....
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

And you are a valid reason IQ tests exist
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

Theres far too many evidences of the supernatural to refuse believing in a God.
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

It could be aliens...and there's more evidence for them than there is for God
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

Then they will be called "gods"
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

Incorrectly.
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

In what way?
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

Well I don't see why they should be called Gods.
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

Able to bring back the deadAble to manipulate the soulEndless wisdomThis are abilities that the human mind cannot comprehend. If this are all done through supreme intelligence, then they are a superior species worthy of being called as "deities"
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

Able to bring back the deadAble to manipulate the soulWhen has any of those things happened?
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

Pretty much every single near death experiences, dead men being returned back to life and many other paranormal activities involving the dead and ESP.This stuff cannot be understood by ordinary minds of men. If aliens can do this, then can already belong to the category of superior beings.
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

death experiences, dead men being returned back to life for you it may be magic, for others it is just called resuscitation.....
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

You cannot resuscitate someone cold dead for more than 15 mins.A man who fell from brain illness must not be able to dream nor remember anything in coma.You cannot create a painting that defied the laws of physics.You cannot contact the voices of the dead...unless you acknowledge the existence of the divine.
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

those thing are not related ,
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

They are, apparently
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

No they are not, fabricated story about magical picture and ER medicine are not related anyway.
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

Yes they are.Its not a fabricated story when there are scientific proofs that baffles even the wisest scientists. For example and another
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

Guadalupe is just another fake blob like the shroud of Turin. They made up magical story around it so simpletons like you will be amused.
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: yes, I believe in god

And where is your evidence?
Debate: DO YOU BELIEVE IN GOD
Side: no,I don't beleive in god

There is literally no evidence for any of those claims of what is claimed to happen to that picture.Shroud of Turin was dated by three prestigious Universities to be from around 1300, also it was recreated by techniques known by people in medieval...All this magical things are made up from half truth and entire bullshit