Debate: Creationism vs. Evolutionism
Side: creationism

"How can all of this occur thousands of years after the inception of Christianity if the wisdom of the Bible is so obvious and righteous?"Many answers can be included here. Some do not have the ability to have the faith that Paul describes we should have - they cannot believe without seeing God, therefore they do not believe that wisdom and righteoussness is in the Bible. Others may be afraid to give up their successes and luxurious lifestyles, that ooze sin and shame, for God therefore shut Him out and continue on their paths to destruction. Perhaps another reason is that men take one look at all the suffering in the world and points his finger at God blaming Him for it then tells the world that he doesn't think God is fit to be worshipped. There are countless answers, all you have to do is take a look at debates here on this site and read what the non-believers argue; your answer will lie there."Well, I have been following your debate with Nautilus. In fact I even posted on that debate but you failed to respond. Unless I'm forgetting something, I didn't see you step outside of the Bible for support. What I did see, however, was this line that you wrote:"As for the other contributor, I didn't read that post, I am debating you not her."What's good for the goose is good for the gander isn't it? I mean, I've got a dozen other arguments on this site containing information that I haven't brought up to you yet, but I don't intend on sending you out on a time-consuming hunt to seek them all down and decide which ones are most relevant to this conversation. If you don't want to re-type your arguments, you can always cut-and-paste."I try to keep my number of debates limited so that my posts and arguments are higher quality than they would be if I was arguing a hundred-and-one arguments; the logic here is simple. Like I mentioned to someone else here, time is an issue therefore by keeping the number of debates lowered, I can spend more time on each individual; seems fair does it not? That is fine if you don't want to follow my debates, but you mentioned that I was only including scriptual evidence; the debate you mentioned with Nautilus is very much related to scripture which is why I was including scripture; I was asked to disprove the alleged discrepancies in Genesis which requires verses to be included here and there. Sure, I will cut and paste if you like but that takes time - and I'm willing to do this as I am debating you - but I'm sure you can understand that if I was debating yet another person, I would not have time to cut and paste therefore this debate would be rather dull. You understand?"Logic, science, history, I'm not picky. Surprise me! The only stipulation is that it has to be extra-biblical. Like I said, I don't think I've seen you step outside of the Bible. That wouldn't be too convincing now, would it?"I have stepped outside of the bible, I have used text from studies and theories disproving Evolution that have used little or no scriptural evidence. As for "To give you an idea of what this feels like, imagine if every argument that I made related to a quote from Darwin's "Origin of Species" believe me, I know what it feels like to have a bunch of studies rammed in my face over and over; its tiring and rather a nuisance."Feel free to try to do something that has yet to happen in over 150 years of continuous research. Indeed, I gave you a whole slew of pieces of supporting evidence to refute. Bring it on"Actually, evolution has been disproven, its nuisance scientists that keep claiming to have found another fossil from millions of years ago that keep the world thinking that evolution still has a chance of being proven. But yeah, I'm more than happy to bring it on. :)"And being picky about sources isn't bad, indeed its rather scientific of you. The problem is, you aren't providing much aside from Bible quotations. Why don't you provide a few sources to show me what meets your criteria?"Well actually, I am more than happy to be convinced of something new, but it is rather irritating been directed to link after link after link that make statements of plants being found billions of years ago then no evidence to support it. And wrong, I have not been supplying lone biblical quotations, I have supplied links, arguments and reasoning. As for a link, here is one that I sent to another member a few hours previously; it disproves evolution and I find it of great value. You may complain about the existant biblical content, but if you do that I may as well complain about the lack of biblical content in the links that are sent to me. Either or, its a petty argument that deliberately avoids the debate."Why is it so hard for you to realize that atheists aren't swayed by the Bible"It's not, but you misunderstood my meaning of the word 'fool' thus I thought I'd let you in on the definition I was inferring. Atheists use puns such as "holy crap" and guess what? Christians have 'ways of talking' too."I see there must have been some confusion between us. I was referring to the notion that humans not being quadrupedal anymore is in keeping with evolution, I was not trying to refer to Moses' statement particularly. I apologize for the confusion and my misunderstanding. That being said, I still don't see why I should place more faith in anything Moses said than any other founder of a religion"Thats quite alright although you still haven't answered the point. I never asked you to place faith in Moses' words. This debate began with your comments on my post of the worlds Creation and I quoted Genesis; a book written by Moses. I was entitled to quoting the book as this debate asks which we believe in and I chose Creationism therefore it was required of me to give a reason why and back it up. I backed it up with the evidence I believed in, whether you believe in it or not. So, you are still required to answer the point you have still not answered yet it was in one of my first posts: ""You never covered this point that I stated in my last post "Why also would Moses say that God made "man" if it was an ape that God made?"