azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

Yes I agree with you. It doesn't alter what I said. Again you reply with something that has nothing to do with what I just said. You don't understand the idea of arguing at all do you.... This is what I believe:Fact: No one asks to be raped. Fact: Rape is only the fault of the rapist. Fact: If you go out wearing a hijab you are going to reduce the chance of being raped.Can you say why the last one isn't fact?
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

Fact: If you go out wearing a hijab you are going to reduce the chance of being raped.Can you say why the last one isn't fact?Because Islamic countries where such dress is common or mandatory have some of the highest incidents of rape in the world. Also, have you ever heard anywhere that rape incidents are massively higher at swimming pools, beaches and fashion shows? Because I haven't, and I would think that if skin=chance of being raped, those would be huge hotspots instead of having roughly the same amount of incidents as any other place in town.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

You are awesome for telling the truth. .
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

If you really agreed with me, you would not dispute me. There is nothing I could have done to prevent being rape.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

I told you I agree with:Fact: No one asks to be raped. Fact: Rape is only the fault of the rapist. You deny the fact that if I woman worked down the street in a hijab, they would be less likely to get raped than if they walked down the street naked?
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

So you are saying that I asked to be raped? .
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

Avoid the point with an emotional appeal. I made it clear, by stating it at least twice, that no one asked for rape. There are however things you can do that would reduce the chance of being raped. Are you denying the fact that if you wear a hijab you would be less likely to be raped?
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

If you say the victim could have prevented the rape, you are also saying that they are asking to be raped.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

It doesn't matter about opinion. Lets deal with fact. If a woman wears a hijab does it make them less likely to be raped. Yes or no. Come on. Have the guts to actually answer the question for once. Dont be so damn fucking scared of the answer.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

Fact: No one asks to be raped. Fact: Saying that someone could have done something to avoid being raped is the same as saying that they asked to be raped.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

Fact: No one asks to be raped.AgreedFact: Saying that someone could have done something to avoid being raped is the same as saying that they asked to be raped.Erm... logical fail. No.Why can't you answer my question? You're like a politician. Do you disagree with the fact that a woman that wears a hijab is less likely to get raped. Yes or no. If a woman never left the house would she be less likely to be raped? yes or no. If a woman lived on a desert island by herself, would she be less likely to be raped? Come on. Engage your brain. Answer just one of these questions.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

Hijab does not prevent rape. Countries with required hijab have very high rape rates.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

Ok. Good you answered my question. You have a point. (Shame you had to steal it from the guy that just replied to me.Does living on a desert island where there are no men make rape less likely?
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

I knew the fact that the Middle East has a lot of rapes before I saw that because I have done my research.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

Does living on a desert island where there are no men reduce the chances of being raped?
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

You are wasting my time. There is nothing I could have done to prevent being raped.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

This isn't about you. If a woman chooses to live on a desert without any men, would this prevent her from being raped? Come on. Have some fucking guts.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

I will not play this game with you. There is nothing I could have done to avoid being raped.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

I dont answer to you. I make my own rules. I wont answer your question because it is stupid.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

Youre a very weak human being. You just repeat and repeat and repeat what you've heard but you cant actually defend any of your views. You're so shit scared of answering a simple question in case it challenges one of your catchphrases. Its like you live in your own little bubble. Let me help you out. This is what the answer is from your point of view:"Yes, I woman would be able to prevent rape by moving to a desert island. However, she shouldn't have to do this. A woman should be able to live a normal life without fear of being sexually assaulted. She should is never to blame for being raped and she shouldn't have to take extraordinary measures to try and persuade rapists not to rape her."Very easy. Simple logic. Now what the fuck were you so afraid of???
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

You dont own me. I do not have to listen to you. I will NOT answer your question because you are using the loaded question fallacy.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

Are you seriously saying you had an intelligent answer to my queston but you just refused to answer it because it was loaded. I smell bullshit.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

I don't have to listen to you. It is my life. Dont tell me what to do.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

Stupid corner now. Go.Btw, Genesis 2:7 supports life starting when the baby breaths. You shouldn't be saying that too often.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

That has nothing to do with this debate. This debate is about victim blaming.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

The debate is about whether you deserve to go the stupid corner (where the rapist is btw). Saying that an implanted embrión 'breathes' is a good reason to put you in the stupid corner.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

This debate is about victim blaming, and nothing else. You need to stay on topic.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

Well, I think if you're stupid enough to get to think an embrión breathes then you're stupid enough to do something to attract rape.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

This debate is about victim blaming, not anything else. .
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

I think you were partially to blame.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

No I was not. You have no right to say that. .
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

Yep I do have that right. I am expressing on honestly held opinion.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

Leave me alone. After all you have done, you are wrong to speak to me.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

This about whether víctima of rape are to blame. Please keep on topic.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

Leave me alone. .
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

What were you wearing when he raped you? Revealing clothing I assume?
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

I did nothing wrong to deserve being raped. No one asks to be raped.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

Your right. I'm being a complete dick. Forget I said anything.My weakness is my mouth. I'm leaving this debate because by the end of it I will offend everyone. I surrender. Good bye.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

Bull. I did not deserve to be raped. Rape is NEVER the victim's fault and ALWAYS the rapist's fault.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

I'm glad you mentioned that. This is actually the root of my argument. A victim should not be punished in anyway for the crime taken against them, however the responsibility to prevent any assault from happening, can not be expected to be left entirely to the one committing the assault, the reason is that when assaulters assault they don't think about doing anything wrong, they''re consumed in the assault.You said they are just high schools girls and they don't know any better, I say that we teach them. LOL, not by raping them. We teach them the same way we teach sex education.The sub point of my argument is that asking victims to consider their own actions, should not be deemed a shameful thing to say.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

The victim is never responsible for being raped. The rapist alone is responsible for the rape. What kind of site am I on where everyone is victim blaming rape victims?
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

This is not the victim's fault, but if you know that their are people like this in the world, going around the place where those people dwell, in clothing that would catch their attention is foolish.Rapists don't have a special hangout place. They go to places where non rapists go. What places have a higher prevalence of rape in your mind? It'd be akin to walking through a dangerous neighborhood, known for it gang violence, carrying bags of money.I think it is more like walking through a nice neighborhood in broad daylight with all your money in your pockets and being run down by a car.I haven't seen a reasonable number of overlaps in rape cases to see a pattern. In the case of date rape it is impossible to separate behavior that will attract rapist and non rapists.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

Did I insinuate a special hangout place for rapists? If I did that was an error on my part. However it's not incorrect to say you'd be more likely to encounter a rapist in certain areas, than you would in others. Just like you'd be more likely to encounter a gangster in certain places than you would in others.In cases of date rape specifically responsibility should be shared. One thing that can be told to potential victims is not to leave your drink unattended, another thing that can be told is not to drink any thing just handed to you.You probably also believe I support rapist, but I assure you this is not the case. I just feel that warning people of behavior that can lead to being assaulted should be an acceptable thing to do.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

Did I insinuate a special hangout place for rapists?No, you didn't insinuate it, you directly said it by saying that there is a place where those people dwell. That implies that places are the rape hangout centers.If I did that was an error on my part. However it's not incorrect to say you'd be more likely to encounter a rapist in certain areas, than you would in others. Just like you'd be more likely to encounter a gangster in certain places than you would in others.And, I asked you for those places. What places do you think fit that description?In cases of date rape specifically responsibility should be shared.Sometimes, but it depends on the situation. One thing that can be told to potential victims is not to leave your drink unattended, another thing that can be told is not to drink any thing just handed to you.And tell murder victims to learn to dodge bullets. Sorry, I couldn't resist. You are right that women shouldn't do those things, but should you be right?You probably also believe I support rapistNo, I do not think that actually. I just feel that warning people of behavior that can lead to being assaulted should be an acceptable thing to do.But, you are also warning people to avoid behavior that won't result in being assaulted. You are making the statement that certain things lead to rape, but I don't see any reason to believe it. Are you going by some kind of statistics, or are you just determining what would lead to rape on your own?
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

Places you'd be more likely to encounter a rapist are know by statistics. Those places include crime ridden towns, bars, and even college campuses.Should I be right that people should be more responsible? Sounds like a loaded question.I don't feel their should be anything considered wrong with avoiding actions that can lead to being assaulted. We can only do but so much about the people who actually commit assault. If anything we can at least educate people.Is it really so wrong to warn people at risk of theft on how to protect their valuables? Over in Europe where apparently pick pockets are more common on trains and in subway stations their are all sorts of warnings for people to protect their valuables. This is the premise of my whole argument.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

Places you'd be more likely to encounter a rapist are know by statistics. Ok, but no one provides those statistics.Those places include crime ridden towns, bars, and even college campuses.Do you really think women should avoid bars and college campuses? Plus, my point is that there are tons of non rapists in these places.Should I be right that people should be more responsible? Sounds like a loaded question.Should you be right that the only way to protect yourself is to watch your alcohol every second after it is served to you. As a man do you have any responsibility like that?I don't feel their should be anything considered wrong with avoiding actions that can lead to being assaulted.Yes, if a woman watches her drink as soon as she gets it and never lets it go, she shouldn't be made fun of. People will disagree with you over whether that is the solution to the rape problem.We can only do but so much about the people who actually commit assault. If anything we can at least educate people.That's fine as long as you ask yourself "have we done enough about the people who commit assault?" and the answer is yes.Is it really so wrong to warn people at risk of theft on how to protect their valuables? Over in Europe where apparently pick pockets are more common on trains and in subway stations their are all sorts of warnings for people to protect their valuables. This is the premise of my whole argument.In Europe do they have signs that say don't wear nice clothes, so pickpockets won't think you have money? Do the signs say not to use the subway? Your whole argument encompasses more than just that premise.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

You keep saying women as if women as if only women are rape victims. I know that avoidance is not always possible, that's why my point is in favor of responsibility. For all potential victims to be cautious.Who said watching your drink is the only way? Plus if you feel that you'd rather not watch your drink, and risk becoming a victim, that's very well your right to since I'm still not in favor of necessarily blaming the victim, however if you wish to not be a victim, I feel this precautionary method should be taught to you, and there should be no shame in suggesting it to you, or any potential victim.I never said it'd be the 'solution'. It'd be no more a solution than a more harsh penalty for rapists. It would just help decrease the likelihood that anyone will become a rape victim. My whole argument was throwing out ideas for one specific type of assault and prevention for it, if you disagree that's just a matter of opinion, but the idea behind my whole argument is still that people should also take responsibility for themselves since you can't actually trust those who commit assaults to.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

You keep saying women as if women as if only women are rape victims.Right, like guys can really benefit from not dressing provocative.My whole argument was throwing out ideas for one specific type of assault and prevention for it, if you disagree that's just a matter of opinion, but the idea behind my whole argument is still that people should also take responsibility for themselves since you can't actually trust those who commit assaults to.I don't have a problem with warning people, but I think your advice would only prevent maybe 5% of rapes. That's all.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

So screw those 5% in favor of political correctness? Okay.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

Aren't you putting the 95% in danger by emphasizing the techniques that won't help you? If you have a list of 5 things to avoid and the first 2 will prevent 95% of incidents, don't your other 3 things to avoid cloud the first 2 things?
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

That 95% are also a part of the 5% until something happens, the prevention will help 100% of the people from avoiding assault all together.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

If you have too many things to focus on you will lose focus on the more important things. You are putting them in danger.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

I will generally agree with this for most cases of assault; assaults of any kind that are completely unprovoked are rare; there is almost always some form of provocation that triggers an assault. This isn't to say that the assaulter doesn't still carry the overwhelming majority of the responsibility for the act, as assaults are typically quite disproportionate to the provocation that triggered them, but it still remains that blame is almost always shared due to almost every assault being provoked.I will not agree 100%, however, as there are exceptions. Sometimes a would-be assaulter is provoked by a party that they are unable to assault for any number of reasons, and that assaulter instead chooses a different victim; it is not reasonable to blame the victim in these cases, as the only thing they have done 'wrong' is being in the wrong place at the wrong time. And some other assaulters aren't acting out of response to some provocation, but are simply twisted individuals. These generally represent a minority of cases, but they still happen all too often.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

There are some victims who were wrongfully convicted and served long prison sentences until DNA evidence set them free.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

More thinking about this has given me another idea that might open some of your minds more.There was the case a while back where zero tolerance policies on bullying in school meant not letting kids wear clothing that might be deemed 'bully bait'. I agree with that policy. I don't believe the school should have made it a rule, since responsibility should be left up to the students, and it was pretty oppressive, but I believe that the idea should have been put out there. Don't wear clothing you know will attract unwanted attention...if you don't want that unwanted attention, and if you do, be prepared to face said unwanted attention. Out in the real world, where their are no administrators to tell someone to stop bullying you, all you'll have is yourself. We need to teach victims how to be more responsible, as well as condemning those who assault them.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

Saying that the rapist shouldn't be blamed is completely ridiculous. By saying that, you are saying the rapist has no control and should not be blamed for their urges. Men and women are 100% under control of their urges.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

Hold both parties accountable to some degree was specifically stated in the description. Though the debate's title is worded in a way that would make that seem like I'm saying the one committing assault should be blamed.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

So if a girl gets raped by a man they both share the blame to some extent . I mean this with as much respect as possible , that is so stupid .
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

Not the blame, the responsibility. The responsibility before hand to prevent it, and the responsibility afterwards to ensure it does not happen again.Ultimately it depends specifically on each and every individual scenario, but to throw immediately point at the rapist and say "this was completely unavoidable, you are definitely 100% responsible" without even looking at the details, is neglecting everyone's safety.An example would be a dating scenario, a people often enough find themselves the victim. The potential victim could take the responsibility upon themselves, to not drink anything that's been left unattended, because before the incident happens, there is no way anyone but the potential victim could stop the potential assault.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

This depends entirely on the circumstance.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Disagree

You have to blame the assaulter unless there is a reasonable explanation such as self defense. Otherwise, it it is like saying that a murderer shouldn't be blamed or tried for murder. Take a car accident in which a car hit a victim as an example; most of the time the victim is innocent even if he/she jumped straight at the car. This is because the assaulter (in this case the driver) should have contained a limit and could have more or less tried to have avoided the accident. The same goes for an assaulter harassing a victim, the assaulter has to have a reasonable limit or else it is the assaulter's fault and he/she should be blamed.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

What gives off the impression that I don't think a murderer should be tried for murder? I ask legitimately so that I can clear up that misconception.While I await your answer I'll explain how it is I really feel about a case such as murder.A murderer no matter the reason should be tried for murder, however, to prevent future murders, not just from that specific murderer but from all people with a similar mindset on all people with a similar mindset to the victim, we should ask questions as to why the murderer felt the need to murder, and how the victim became a victim.Here is a specific example. A hitch hiker has been killing people, finally the hitch hiker who's been killing people is caught. A closer look at the hitch hiker's motives prove that the hitch hiker was literally just crazy, and had no real reason. I feel that the hitch hiker should be tried for murder obviously, but that still doesn't prevent more people from potentially becoming a victim to more hitchhiking murders. So I'd put out a PSA not to pick up hitch hiker's since they can be killers. In this scenario, I am holding both the murder responsible for their murder and the potential victims responsible for not being murdered.Do you agree with the premise now? The premise, in case I wasn't clear, is that you can not expect a person who assaults to simply not assault, you as a potential victim of assault, should expect assault behavior, and should also take actions to protect yourself.
Debate: Blame not the victim, nor the assaulter.
Side: Agree

There is an important distinction to be made between accountability and moral judgement. Abstaining from blame (moral judgement) does not mean we cannot hold one another to account.