azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

“These people KNOW the consequences for coming here illegally and they still do it, then cry racism when we try to enforce our laws!"I don't think it is the illegal immigrant crying racism but the legal one who happens to be the same race as the illegal aliens. They have to deal with everyone treating them as if they are an illegal. “for the most part Spanish speakers come in and expect us to conform to them, expect us to make Spanish the 2nd language. There are many jobs out there that are only available to people who speak both Spanish and English, and why is that because we have too many people here who don't learn the language.”I live in California and I can tell you this is not how it is. Have you ever met an illegal alien? Or even a legal immigrant? I am very much against illegal immigration but leave it at that. Just because they break the law by crossing the border does not mean they live up to ever ridiculous stereotype you parents told your small town in middle America. Do you realize if you take out all of the illegal aliens these "issues" you have would still be around. California would still be a state reliant on more than one language. Who would be at fault for the fact that you can't speak Spanish then? It is easy to use illegal aliens as a scapegoat for your insecurities about foreigners but watch out because who knows... maybe one day one of these awful people will make it to your neck of the woods.BTW: I am a white guy born and raised in America as well.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: Yes

I agree with everything except where you say the key is not kicking them out. Hey, they are here ILLEGALLY. They are LAWBREAKERS for that. Many come here ILLEGALLY and commit crimes. They need to be kicked out. They had the choice to come here LEGALLY but chose not to. They need to learn there is a right way and a wrong way to do things here.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

I can agree with that. You have some valid points. People who have a problem with them coming here because of poverty and the crap, if I may say, that goes on in their country need to put themselves in these immigrants shoes. The reason they come here, yes, some of the reasoning is because the money is better, its also their lack of government in their own country, poverty, as well as wars going on. We also offer better education, so they say, but how is that when there are employers out here hiring them on the spot, paying them under the table and basically saying we need to hand out more green cards to fill the gaps of employees who don't have the skills or qualifications to meet the requirements that some of these jobs require. Thats why a lot of illegal immigrants are getting these specific jobs and I don't think they care about the money, honestly, I think its merely just survival.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

As I said in the other debate: Americans bitch and moan about how illegal aliens are taking their jobs but if we remove them from the country will they not start bitching and moaning about how damn tough these jobs that they are doing are? We should not throw them out of the country. We need to just tax them. Have another Ellis Island if we have to.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

Exactly what I think. Up-vote.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: yes

It's not crappy jobs that Americans don't want, It's the crappy pay.People have been hoodwinked.The subject has been scandelously turned into a debate about the actual immigrants, and thus a human rights debate.But the underlying problem is companies' desire to exploit cheap labor. Raise the minumum wage, demand companies pay fair wages, and the millions of unemployed citizens of this country will happily fill the positions.If there are not jobs to be filled, the immigration problem will solve itself.No kicking necessary.And another ellis island wouldn't work. The U.S. Mexican border is too big and too open.The only thing that could possibly work is a giant, military manned, wall.But again, that would not even be necessary.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

if it has a crappy pay then most people will not want to do it unless they are desperate. So you are telling me that nothing makes an American happier is working on farms and working for carpenters, landscapers, and picking up trash is just what Americans day dream about in school.HELL NO. What you are suggesting is that instead of a low pay for jobs people do not want give the people that do those jobs an increase in pay. So maybe more Americans will work there? In either case a less experienced alien will just offer to do the work for less pay. Also why wouldn't they just keep the illegals they already have? Why hire an American that has mowed peoples front lawns but never landscaped before?All of what you said is not really answering the question. What I said gave the reason for why illegals should stay in the US what you are talking about is the pay for illegals not why they should be kicked out, and it is not going to solve itself since Americans all refuse to work for 5 $ an hour when any illegal would take 5 without blinking.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

Actually I answered the question exactly.The problem isn't my answer, it's the way people look at the problem.Is it better to cure the flew with medicine? Or to wash your hands and not get the flew in the first place?The difference is my answer is reacting to the problem, and not the symptoms of that problem.People do a lot of crappy jobs because they pay well.Go try and find a job as a garbage man.Or mail man.Are those jobs people clamor to? Do kids say "I want to pick up other people's garbage when I grow up"? No. But they are jobs where litterally thousands of people will apply for one open position, and once the position is filled, people stay there for life... even though they are crappy jobs.Why?tada! good pay and benefits.Exactly what I said.So I'll explain again.If companies are forced to pay people what the job is worth, than those jobs will be filled by the millions of unemployed citizens of this country.If jobs are all filled by citizens of this country, then illegal immigrants have exactly 0 reason to illegally emigrate.The moral outrage at illegal immigrants does not stem from them working hard and making a living, it stems from them working hard and making a living while citizens are not.Solve the problem of fair pay, and you solve the problem of immigration.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

Right on target!
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

damn I concede well put. ^
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

We shouldn't kick illegal people out of the country, because many people that come form other countries work hard to maintain our economy well. so why kick them out.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: yes

Because they take our jobs, get benifits that americans can not even get because the are a minorty. I think they should all go home and we can get our jobs back. It is America and we are not working but they are!!! What is wrong with this. They do not help the economy, They own it. We are the ones that suffer. No work, Trouble feeding our families and ect... No health insurance (but they get it free because they are a minorty.) Yea, lets keep them here so we can get more people homeless and lose there jobs.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

When you "white" people forced your way into OUR landYou should of fought back better
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: Yes

We fought to almost distinction so don't whine when our brother Natives want to come and get it back.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: yes

Well then they should come here legally like everyone else that has come into this country!
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

This country is becoming a cesspool of garbage, we don't want ourselves to look like other 3rd world countries!
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: yes

you sound so stupid and ignorant. shut the f* up! you have no soul if you have no sympathy for those in 3rd world countries.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

"America has constantly drawn strength and spirit from wave after wave of immigrants...They have proved to be the most restless, the most adventurous, the most innovative, the most industrious of people."- Bill Clinton
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

THe reason why immigrants are in usa in the first place is so that they can have opportunity that they couldn't have in their own country. We give them opportunity instead of penalty :P
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

we should not or at least not out at the rate we doing it because then legal ones get kicked out to like my dad.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: yes

not in every case
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: It depends

I think that every illegal immigrant should have a background check run on them, and if they've got a relatively clean record, let them in.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

Let's Look at the inanity of this concept. If we were to kick all illegal immigrants out of the USA; only the Native Americans would be left. The Majority are immigrants from Europe, Asia, etc... (the old world), who came and settled here without permission from the Native American tribes. Grant it, this phrase isn't 100% true, but close enough to, that that's irrelevant.Besides, I don't usually hear about Illegal Immigrants who are unwilling to work.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

if someone illegally travells to the USA, it genrally means that they have had a bad time in wherever they have come from, and should be allowed to seek a better life. if you reverse the situation and put yourself in their position - being deneyed access to live in USA after waiting years to recieve a pass - it would be quite likely that you decide to illegaly go there yourself. And for people who have done, it is unfair to remove illegal immigrants from their friends and family and jobs in the states, and make them return to their orriginal country. They just want a better life, and yes, it probably should be carried out correctly and legally, but people who can't should not be deneyed access.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

This is what they are fleeing from.This first one is a reenactment of real scenarios of how thousands if not millions are, have been, and will be tortured and killed in Mexico alone not including more southern countries where this happens as well. http://youtu.be/873zJRimCVEWelcome to Mexico: http://youtu.be/tZFVI6AMFBMMexican police have found five decomposing heads left in a sack outside a primary school in Acapulco.Handwritten messages were also found, reportedly threatening the state governor as well as local drug lords.It was not clear if the discovery of the heads and five decapitated bodies elsewhere in the city was linked to extortion threats against teachers.Dozens of schools have been closed since last month after teachers went on strike over security concernshttp://youtu.be/ZZyVnbdX7okhttp://youtu.be/51K-L1zYzsEhttp://youtu.be/yjxekuMdLfQhttp://youtu.be/J2RxKbaa7Ww territory shoot out.http://youtu.be/2ddDNdOkdUUThis is what happens when you go to the authorities for help.http://youtu.be/fWwnTqjGu3ohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=0qAt2yegHaU A woman and her 1.5 yr old child are among these poor people who were kidnapped by Mexican mafia. The criminals put up armed roadblocks on highways so they could take the victims and their property. Usually they stop those with nice looking vehicles. (especially nice trucks and suv's)http://youtu.be/PocgXo6YlPAhttp://youtu.be/VSGXUxBCglchttp://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=eJDwZq2co5U When you go to work in Mexico you could have shots fired at you and grenades thrown at you. This footage is very common. It's EVERYDAY occurence. http://youtu.be/2QmnM457Whghttp://youtu.be/gP3OvaT1yHE child shot in the neck while riding the bus.The groom and 2 others were kidnapped at wedding. The grooms brother was shot and killed. The police locked the gates so nobody could leave the church. It is an extortion case.http://youtu.be/GYFW84CefWMThis man was murderer as well. He was killed by rivals. http://youtu.be/DSnAJokL4mohttp://youtu.be/MFasg6qI1TY
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

Your forgetting the fact that when anyone is born the IMF allocates them an amount of money that they are worth. When the government let's in 100,000 immigrants they then get the value of those 100,000 immigrants and can borrow more money and increase the value of their country.If you then proceded to remove all the immigrants in your country the amount your country's population is worth decreases dramatically.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

Not so fast, in my opinion they are brave people. They leave their homes, sometimes for many years for the opportunity to earn money for their families who have limited means. Because they don't share the same civil rights as a citizen, they are at constant risk of exploitation. Immigrants work many, many hours a day for their wages. We make the assumption that they do not want to pay taxes and that they want to steal from us. How do we know this? Perhaps instead of exporting illegals, might we try handing out tax i.d. numbers? I think this country should look for "Plan C" when attempting to solve the illegal immigrant issue. There is a mean spirited undercurrent creeping into the U.S. American psyche and it is dividing us from a potential good solution.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: Yes

When you "white" people forced your way into OUR landYou should of fought back better
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

Then you should WORK harder. You still celebrate our massacre by celebrating Thanksgiving when the white man poisoned our ancestors.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: Yes

you the newest nutter ?
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: Yes

You the newest nutter ?
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: Yes

Like i said should of fought back better you had your chance to take down the Pilgrims .
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

No. why do people even want immigrants out of the USA? They do jobs American's wouldn't even bother on doing. They work their ass off working for their family, and work to give them the best they can. You think is easy living somewhere were you can't see your mom because she lives in another continent; trying to make a bit of money to help her out because she is really old and can't support herself like young people can?! In Mexico things aren't like in USA, dangerous people are killing innocent people, because of drugs! Would you want to live in a place where you can't even go outside or to a party because your afraid you might get shot or kidnapped? No! i don't think so. You might want to run away or move to a safe place, well that's what we thought went we came to the USA. It's like a dream! Now, just because "some Hispanics" do things like kill or just be lazying around doesn't mean we are all the same, because believe me we aren't ! If i meet a mean, arrogant American and starts insulting me about how am Hispanic doesn't mean i am going to think "all American's are the same." i might think about it but never actually make it official. Mexicans are hard working people and work to give their family the best they can!
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

Ignorant Americans want to kick out immigrants and they think a dumb ass fence is gonna solve the countrys problems they don't realize there own greedy republicans are the ones ruining our country I know most Americans that wouldn't do the jobs that immigrants do they just want to blame there problems on someone else instead on the American government that them selves are voting on there is alote of immigrants that are illegal and pay taxes without a social security and the federal government knows this and does not care
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

No, America was founded by immigrants. The natives aka american indian, back to the mongoloids and so on, once rules these lands we're on now, and the most time, parts of europe came to settled down, and so American's are essentially a mixture of mongoloid, native america, mexican, Spaniard, and english. I see no other evidence to proving this wrong. The is how our lands have been conquered and conquered again by different races and people. Technically speaking, if you think of where the hominoid species originally dominate in the african lands, asia and europe and migrated as such through the lands. Continental drift is fact and evidence states that our species roamed about through the earth from a general central central location then ran off to different parts of the world, and here we are now, all countries and divided. So no, why should we kick immigrants out? Out main businesses are done with other countries, enter china, russia, to name a few. Shit, even mexico builds products for us. I see now problem with immigrants working, providing to their families while helping our families with work, they should be allowed to be become citizens of this great nation and have opportunity here just like Americans.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

I am going to say no. This country was based upon immigrants and that's what gives us our strength, diversity. Now with that said, there are many laws in place that allow illegal immigrants to join our schools, pay taxes, etc. I say keep them if they're smart enough to survive here. Now should they receive public funds...I'm not sure. You have to take the good with the bad, as some will say. Let me also state that not all immigrants are coming from the US/Mexican border.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: yes

We still have plenty diversity throughout our country, why should they be able to break the law to add "diversity"
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

My point is that if you don't enforce your own laws you should allow amnesty to those that have already come in when you did not enforce your law. This country was founded by illegal immigrants.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

I agree with you. Let them stay here if they can surrive. They dont have to give them goverment funds. If they are not doing nothing wrong leave them alone. Most of them have families and work very hard to support their families
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

they fill min. wage jobs and sell cheaper products. At the same time they buy products from the U.S. What should change is the welfare laws.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: yes

Illegals taking one minimum wage job, means one less min wage job for a legal citizen, and in this country we need all the jobs we can get!!!
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

If the illegal immigrants were to sign up to pay taxes they would be kicked out.We could just give them a residence and get some money from them.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: yes

They can go and try to get a green card and become a resident other wise they should be kicked out of the U.S.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

No one should kick anyone. That is just plain mean. How would you like it if I kicked you?
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: yes

well confused, if i were an illegal mexican who has their OWN PROBLEMS and OWN COUNTRY, they take our jobs, earn special benefits, crowd our prisons, suck money out of our government from deportation, and cause a crapload of problems (drugs, murder, gangs, etc) while america sits their and they have their own problems and dont have the time or money to mess with border issues, then yes. i would want you to kick me out. Its liberals like you who make this once great country an awful, mexican tainted, poor liberal society. We should kick you out too.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

When you "white" people forced your way into OUR land and you FORCED us to conform to YOUR ways. Latinos are indigenous to this side of the world. The Guatecos (declared Mexican or Hispanic putting them in a white category so white men couldn't enslave them as they did other indigenous people) Many of them still speak their native tongue. White men forced Spanish on them as white man forced french and English on the Canadian indigenous people, and how the white man forced english on us all the way into the 1980's. http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=16516865 http://www.nikolasschiller.com/blog/index.php/archives/2009/08/25/3834/ We tried to live in peace and harmony with the white man but the white man got greedy and murderous. The white man refused to obey our laws. If these people who are indigenous to our contenant cannot be allowed to stay why should you? Why don't you go back to the country of your ancestors and start your "American" revolution there? http://espressostalinist.wordpress.com/genocide/native-american-genocide/ http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/4929/If anybody has a right to say who stays and who goes it would be all of our Natives to decide that. It would never happen, but the just right is ours. I understand that our American schools teach us to be ignorant and try to hide our dirty history like a cat hides their dirty deeds. This is a start to your education. I hope you will be enlightened. :)http://www.garyjennings.com/
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

illegal immigrants include the white europeans who invaded the native americans land and massacred them and took it by force. if you want to send hispanics back to latin america, they you should also definitely send the white europeans back to europe and give hte land back to the right ful oowners, the native americas (red indian).
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: Yes

Don't worry, because at the rate we are going the "white europeans" will no longer exist on this planet due to the no/low childbirth rates.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

A nice, gentle push back over the border should suffice ;)
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

How do prevent illegal cockroaches from entering you house? Clean up after your self ! That's right..Don't feed the birds.
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: No

I agree and stop promoting and putting the carrot in front of the horses mouth ie get rid of ANCHOR BABY LAW!!!
Debate: Should we kick illegal immigrants out of the USA?
Side: Yes

Then start with you as the first "anchor baby" to deport yourself. We Natives never gave you permission to enter. Where are your ancestors papers?