azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

"Your analogy would work better against a racist; a dog is still a dog whether they're brown, black or white; a human is still a human whether they're brown, black or white.""would work better"..........meaning its good thats why you got it at least. But the frozen head doesn't get it at all.....such a pity.......I can explain a bit the colours...Let Dog= humanBlack = foetus(potential to be a complete human)Brown= handicapped humanWhite= A fine human...."If you are against early abortions, then you must be against masturbation, and sex for pleasure, because it's the same concept. All you're doing is killing cells which are not human yet, but have the potential to be human."Early or late abortion is still murder: there is nothing wrong with sex for pleasure but you should be ready to take responsibility if your 'rubber' prank goes wrong. Even if you take pills, at any time if anything goes wrong maybe forgetfulness......don't be a coward take charge of the responsibility....And masturbation is just stupid...but then its your life, your stick and your choice. "All you're doing is killing"Killing what? Potential.And you make it sound like nothing....。by using 'All' to sum it up into a simple picture. as if people against it are just deluded with morality......justifying and condoning...hmm
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is NOT Murder

Dog= humanBlack = foetus(potential to be a complete human)Brown= handicappedhumanWhite= A fine human....Congratulations. You just made an extremely racist analogy. Was that intentional or are you just stupid?Early or late abortion is still murderYou didn't address my point. How can you accept sex for pleasure and masturbation, yet deny early abortions? What's the difference between a sperm and a foetus at one week? They're both just undeveloped humans which have 0% chance of living outside the womb. And masturbation is just stupid...Oh, please. Don't act like you've never spanked the monkey before.Killing what? Potential.I'm going to assume you're not a vegetarian. How can you condone the killing and consumption of innocent animals, yet not the removal of something that can't even think and survive yet?
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

"Congratulations. You just made an extremely racist analogy. Was that intentional or are you just stupid"I don't share that viewMy motive counts。。。and also governed by the debates' topic.Racism can't be a factor...You chose to deviate."Oh, please. Don't act like you've never spanked the monkey before."Maybe you stole my memory.You are remembering for me.". How can you condone the killing and consumption of innocent animals, yet 。.........."Even non vegetarian animals eat up each other because they know they lack potential to achieve anything in life. The jungle never developed...lack of potential...Every human has potential from clot of blood to old age."They're both just undeveloped humans which have 0% chance of living outside the womb."Because they were made to live in the womb. The womb is for them not for food or anything.You speak as if you survived outside your mother's womb......"What's the difference between a sperm and a foetus at one week?"Potential.....
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is NOT Murder

Oh dear , yet another person who disagrees with you , thought you said everyone agrees with you ?
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

You still don't know the difference between"To Comprehend" and "To agree"
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is NOT Murder

I don't share that viewThen why did you make that analogy instead of, I don't know, not making a blatantly racist analogy?and also governed by the debates' topic.Racism can't be a factor...You chose to deviate.So if I go onto an abortion debate and post "THE JEWS DESERVE TO BE ANNIHILATED", it's not antisemitic because it's deviating from the topic? Gotcha.Maybe you stole my memory.You are remembering for me.Is this supposed to be a diss...? The insult is directed at me masturbating, as if I would be ashamed and disgusted that you would imply that I masturbate...? Doesn't really work. I'll happily admit that I love a wank every now and then.Even non vegetarian animals eat up each other because they know they lack potential to achieve anything in life.Who says they lack potential? You? What do you define as "potential"? What is potential to us, is very unlikely to be potential to a pack of lions. To them, potential might be raising cubs, or becoming leader of the pack, etc...Your entire argument implies that you deem animals to be worth less than humans. But why? Because they're a different species?Because they were made to live in the womb.How does this refute my argument?Potential.....Hold on a second... you're saying sperm doesn't have potential... but a foetus does? You do know how foetuses are made, don't you?
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

"Then why did you make that analogy instead of, I don't know, not making a blatantly racist analogy?"Why are you asking me why as if i'm obliged under a certain law to use colours for only racist analogies.Who are you to impose that on me?God of analogy, colours or racism? "THE JEWS DESERVE TO BE ANNIHILATED"You bring up any words and you expect it to be considered? Its even incomplete even if i try to make sense out of it.The sense i could make is you represent unborn children with Jews and annihilate as in abortion.Which yet contradicts with my point of view.But even you couldn't have made out that sense out of your own incomplete attempt of an analogy.I can even make it relate to mine sensibly and it still doesn't imply racism....but i shouldn't stretch any further."Doesn't really work. I'll happily admit that I love a wank every now and then."I wonder what you get from that.I will say it is okay for a teenager anticipating sex to do that but you?How old are you?You grew out of childhood but it didn't grow out of you."What do you define as "potential"?In the history of the earth,which animal has been able to make a light bulb.And i never said animals are worthless either.You ever heard of pollination?milking?All food. They are mostly potent for food or assistance.Even if you are not vegetarian, most of your clothen materials are taken from animalsBut they are not the real the deal." To them, potential might be raising cubs, or becoming leader of the pack, etc..."Did you say maybe?Oh yeah maybe potential for masturbation also." but a foetus does? You do know how foetuses are made, don't you?"A sperm is an element and a fetus is a formula.That's the difference.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is NOT Murder

Why are you asking me why as if i'm obliged under a certain to law to use colours for only racist analogies.Ugh. You're trying my patience with your idiocy. If you cannot see what is racist about the analogy you used, then you're a lost hope.The sense i could make is you represent unborn children with Jews and annihilate as in abortion.Which yet contradicts with my point of view.But even you couldn't have made out that sense out of your own incomplete attempt of an analogy.Jesus fucking Christ. I wasn't making an analogy to abortion you deplorable airhead. You said that racism can't be a factor because that was not the topic of the debate. My comparison was that by your logic if I made an antisemitic comment on an unrelated debate, it's not antisemitic because antisemitism wasn't a factor in the debate topic. It's just ludicrous.I wonder what you get from that.I will say it is okay for a teenager anticipating sex to do that but you?How old are you?I'm 17, and I'll continue to wank up until I've lost the strength in my arms. It's not about "anticipating" sex - I've had plenty of that - it's about me having the ability to masturbate, so why not?which animal has been able to make a light bulb.We survived for around 200,000 years without electricity. How does the ability to make a light bulb make one superior?A sperm is an element and a fetus is a formula.That's the difference.They still both have potential. Why does it matter which one is an element and which one is a formula?
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

"Ugh. You're trying my patience with your idiocy. If you cannot see what is racist about the analogy you used, then you're a lost hope."All i care about is my motive. Not what someone thinks."My comparison"Defines a particular group of people.Mine was just using an animal and colours. So simple.But you chose to expand the lake.Not my fault"I'm 17, and I'll continue to wank up until I've lost the strength in my arms."When you are 50yrs and you remember this, you will come back to delete it."We survived for around 200,000 years without electricity. How does the ability to make a light bulb make one superior?"Omgosh.......and you call me thick head.I mentioned light bulb as one of the most simpliest forms of man made (not animal)technologies. And wanted to find out from you(beast master) if the jungle has reached that height yet; which ofcourse to man is at the depths of our achievements."They still both have potential. "Says .......you ......now.So back to the main topic.Why do you want to terminate potential?Because you feel its a burden to you? Selfish Murderer."Why does it matter which one is an element and which one is a formula?"Not all sperms are strong enough to fertilize.How do you determine their potency before they are formed into a formula?That is why even, the natural designers makes them bountiful.The potency is measured or determined when it is able to complete the formula.Even, some eggs are not potent.Have you ever looked your dad in the eye to ask him if he ever attempted murdering you because he felt you were a burden?If not you, ask him how of your siblings he deliberately murdered.And the possibility of you being among those numbers.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is NOT Murder

No you see comprehension of your idiotic statements is precisely why I choose to ignore a lot of what you say . You present daily various examples of the ' personality ' and the ' probing intellect ' of an ass who has half its brains beaten out by its frustrated owner ; in short most of what you say is void of meaningful implication:)
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

You never comprehend but someone has. Just check the replies. And then ask yourself where is the fault in your brain.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is NOT Murder

I think you need to read those comments again as you're so dense you think when people disagree with you they're argeeing ; I've yet to see one person agree with anything you've said you dumb brute
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

You don't know the difference between 'comprehension' and 'agreement' with google at your disposal.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is NOT Murder

Ah I see , it's people agreeing with you now ? No , still not one person agrees with your idiotic views .... do you ever wonder why ?
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

This is very difficult.I mean how do i manage dealing with you everyday.....You didn't even get those simple words still.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is NOT Murder

Yes it's very difficult for you because you're an idiot , and I see everyone is now tearing your stupid rants apart ; how did you end up so dimwitted ?
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

So you still can't differentiate between comprehension and agreeance.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is NOT Murder

Still no one agreeing with you andthe only one doesn't get it is you as you're a cretin , now maybe you should go off and answer all the questions you keep ignoring ?
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is NOT Murder

No one comprehends you and I've yet to see anyone agree with your idiotic statements , because you're right no comprehends or agrees with a Ghanaian cretin :)
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

By your argument, you have committed the ad hominem fallacy in calling your opponent a cretin. I have noticed this quite a bit from your arguments, they seem to be all directed at the people who made the arguments, instead of the arguments themselves.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is NOT Murder

No incorrect , my opponent is a gibbering idiot this is a fact if you bothered to read his nonsense . If someone makes an argument and engages in a correct manner I will likewise reply but if one is going to make nasty remarks they will get them back double .I note you do not take to task the person who used ad hominem on me whys that ?I suggest in future you get your facts right so I don't have to correct you ... again
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

Adding this message was not only meant to apply just to you. the ad hominem fallacy example applies to everyone who uses it. I happen to know who you speak of, but i find it quite hypocritical of you to use this fallacy in response to my calling you out on it.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

I don't care what you find it as I didn't use it as what I said about the individual is FACT .Also you need to look up what the word hypocrisy means as that seems to be something else you got wrong .
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is NOT Murder

The hypocrisy in your statement was that in response to me calling you out on your ad hominem fallacy, you shifted the attention on someone else using a non sequitur, and used another ad hominem fallacy on top of that. Furthermore, you have no proof that the individual you were speaking of was or was not a person who fits the definition of that word. You also seem to have no argument for the topic we are debating here besides the one i have already shot down, you have simply, this entire time, been calling your opponents cretins and idiots, which is not an argument but a series of insults.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

You made a statement which was incorrect I corrected you and now you're sore , it also appears you are one using non sequiturs as you're making little sense .Again I will correct you I have more than enough proof that my statement about the individual is correct if you wish you can set up a fan club and a FB page for him if it makes you happy :)Again another correction , I set my argument out at the top,of the thread your lack of comprehension skills is hardly my fault , and no I didn't see your alleged ' shooting down ' of my points .I also noted like a big child you declared me an enemy something I've never resorted to here .When you have an anything resembling an argument please post it up otherwise fuck off .
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is NOT Murder

If you would have cared to look, i have established several points as to why it is scientifically indisputable that abortion is murder.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

Why would I care to look when you totally ignored my initial post ?You haven't ' established ' anything you've stated your position and again using terms like ' scientifically indisputable ' shows you're merely trying to force your viewpoint , also you need to define the term murder don't you ?
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is NOT Murder

No, abortion is not murder. Murder is the taking of another human life form, and a fertilized egg is not a human life form.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

What is taking in murder?Going to the shop to buy some plastic rectangularly(80%) shaped object and get a metal into a hole in it and then aim it at a wood, pull the trigger, if you weren't satisfied with the reaction of the wood then you point it to a homo sapien and then you try again......and the reaction is more fun after that...nice game.....my favourite.I wouldn't call it murder if i choose to see it that way....Right?So easily said like a psychopath would say it.Anything which has blood that you kill is murder. If there is blood(beginning), there is pain. Babies start from a clot of blood into a full bodied human that you are........n...If abortion is not murder then throwing a metal at a grown arse homo sapien is not murder.
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Side: Abortion Is Murder

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Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

Does it change from potential human to actual human upon exiting the woman's body?
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

Yes, once the fetus leaves the womb it becomes an independent entity. I could ask is abortion to murder what a miscarriage is to manslaughter? I mean, following most "abortion is murder" ideologies, then we should be charging women with miscarriages to manslaughter, no?
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

-In what world is the entity of a human baby independent? Once the baby is born it becomes more of a dependent burden.-No. Dying due to natural cause is not at all akin to dying because someone accidentally killed you.-If a potential human is not human until it leaves the womb, how does one account for births at imprecise and various points of gestation? Does medical technology that increases surviveability of premiture birth also decrease the time it takes to become human?
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

-In what world is the entity of a human baby independent? Once the baby is born it becomes more of a dependent burden.A financial burden for a while does not mean that it's existence is entirely dependent. It can now have independent experiences, and the sustainance of its life isn't then dependent. Does medical technology that increases surviveability of premiture birth also decrease the time it takes to become human?It prematurely actualises the potential. But, if you understand that already, then yes, of course.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

I hope you can see why your opinion on the matter is not likely to persuade.A baby has independent experiences in the womb. The idea that a baby becomes an independent entity after it is born is all well and good to say, but everyone knows that babies are not actually independent. Which makes it a tough philosophical sell.The idea that medical technological advancements will decrease the time it takes to become human is also a hard sell. Eventually, doctors will be able to bring a baby to term completely independent of a mother. When that happens, would you argue that life begins at conception? Not likely. The alternative perspective is that a baby is actually not a human when in another human, but actually IS a human when not in another, and that this difference of environment is the sole determinant of humanity. This is too arbitrary to hold weight with your opposition.You might be interested to know that people are actually not human when in prison. True story. They are not independent entities. If my proposition sounds arbitrary, then you may see the problem with your own.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is NOT Murder

A baby has independent experiences in the womb.Which ones? All its senses are constrained and limited.  everyone knows that babies are not actually independent. Which makes it a tough philosophical sell.Nothing is then independent. I wonder what leads you to base decisions on such universal generalisations. Eventually, doctors will be able to bring a baby to term completely independent of a mother. When that happens, would you argue that life begins at conception? That's entirely unrelated to whatever I might have said. As long as it is a fetus, its life has not begun. You might be interested to know that people are actually not human when in prison. True story. They are not independent entities. If my proposition sounds arbitrary, then you may see the problem with your own.They don't need the building of jail to be and in well condition as a necessary factor of existence. I wonder what part you see as parallel to draw the example from.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is Murder

Which ones?All its senses are constrained and limited.All babies. They respond to pain stimuli and stress. There are indications that they dream. When they are small, they swim.Your senses are constrained and limited as are everyones. The various ways in which they are constrained is part of what creates independent experience.Nothing is then independent. I wonder what leads you to base decisions on such universal generalisations.They are called concepts. The ability to conceptualize is useful to understanding the world around me. People can become independent from each other. They can be self-sustaining in that no other person must sustain them . People can do this, but not when they are babies. That's entirely unrelated to whatever I might have saidIt's not unrelated at all: “Does medical technology that increases surviveability of premiture birth also decrease the time it takes to become human?It prematurely actualises the potential.But, if you understand that already, then yes, of course.”If the time it takes to become human is altered (decreased) by technology, then each lifesaving advancement for sustaining a child that prematurely exits the womb serves to delegitimize any abortion that might occur at that same stage. If we advance to the point at which a fetus is medically viable outside of the womb at the point of conception, then all abortion will become illegitimate, from a viability standpoint. As long as it is a fetus, its life has not begunDo you mean that killing a day old child is murder, but killing it the day before is perfectly acceptable? At what point during the birthing does it stop being a fetus? They don't need the building of jail to be and in well condition as a necessary factor of existence. I wonder what part you see as parallel to draw the example from.A child can potentially survive after being born at 5 ½ months. Thus, it does not need the environment of a womb as a necessary factor of existence. You reason that the child’s environment (a womb) determines whether it is human.
Debate: Is Abortion Murder?
Side: Abortion Is NOT Murder

They can be self-sustaining in that no other person must sustain them .They can't. That's a tautology. Because you seem rather insistent to try out paradoxes and fallacies against me. Let's see how far you can go with your words. At what point during the birthing does it stop being a fetus?When it experiences the real world. Though it is developed enough a while before that to have the experiences. But it still doesn't exist in reality. A child can potentially survive after being born at 5 ½ months.Thus, it does not need the environment of a womb as a necessary factor of existence. You reason that the child’s environment (a womb) determines whether it is human.It'd grow rather off-topic there. But still, potential life won't be treated as actual life. Also, if that's right, then my criticism of the analogy was a bit off the mark. The criminal isn't potentially alive, but free, and the jail is a necessary environment in which the potential is not yet actualised. They respond to pain stimuli and stress. That's unconscious. There are indications that they dream. There isn't enough information in the brain to really dream. Your senses are constrained and limited as are everyones. The various ways in which they are constrained is part of what creates independent experience.Another one of those vague universalisations. Their being constrained by your bodily limits is their function, and they aren't so much constrained as in a fetus. It, then, just limits the extent of experiences.