azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Well, if you read my argument towards iamdavidh's argument on potential life in regard to sperm cells, you will understand that there are major differences to what is potential and what is actually fertilizing as we type.The fact that women consider an abortion as the first choice (or for that matter any choice) is too weak for some people, this includes me.What individuals fail to see, and admit, is that there is always another option, whether it be putting the child up for adoption or to leave the child in the care of a friend or family member, so that the child has a life and it is still able to give a couple what they actually want.People are so financial these days that they forget about human rights, something that a child deserves. We can all look at what science determines is a child and what isn't, but it is but some of us, who actually believe and support human life, will look as a fetus as a child, regardless of its understanding and capabilities.If someone isn't fit or capable of having a child, have safe sex, or if it is too late, give the child to someone who is. Everybody wins.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Until the fetus can actually survive outside the womb, it's a potential. Fertilization doesn't all of a sudden make an egg or a sperm instantaneous life. A lot of things must be perfect for the embryo to make it all the way to the end. If people drink too much alcohol it might kill the embryo, there's a host of other things that can affect its survival, shall we outlaw them all?I fully support giving people choice when it comes to other options. What I don't support is making it compulsory. Plain and simple.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

As I have already mentioned, several times, other choices are avaliable, and yet, many couples/individuals choose to ignore these choices. What I suggest is that protective sex must come into play, this way, we can completely forget about the possibility of an abortion.The only exception that I could possibly see to this is with the case of rape, and this is only covers 1% of all abortions.If abortions are outlawed, the world may finally smarten up when it comes to sex and childbirth, and then, just maybe, we can start worrying more about the future of the child rather than the beginning.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

This argument has already been covered, so I don't know why you're repeating it. But since you have, i will reply again:Protective sex is the act of preventing life from happening in the first place. You're preventing fertilization from happening, some view this as on the same level as abortion so since abstinence or condoms are not outlawed, neither should abortion.I get you're trying to make people realize the consequences of having unprotected sex, so what you should argue for is that UNPROTECTED SEX SHOULD BE BANNED, not abortion should be banned! Abortion is dealing with the aftermath, so let it be dealt with! If you want to PREVENT, then outlaw UNPROTECTED SEX. Make it illegal! Just like riding a bike without a helmet! It's illegal to ride bikes without helmets (at least in some countries).
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

This is what I derive from your argument:"We should not outlaw abortion, we should outlaw unprotected sex. This is because we want to prevent children from coming into this Earth, or kill them off should accidents happen."This system is complete and utter BS, and would do more harm than good.If we wanted to prevent children from being born, we should educate, and provide more condoms and help encourage abstinence among teenagers and couples. This way, we can eventually move past outlawing unprotected sex and stop abortions for good.What you suggest does nothing to promote any form of childbirth. It doesn't give a single solution that doesn't cause more problems.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

You don't think making unprotected sex illegal is a workable option?Just compare it with many other things that are illegal: riding a bike without helmet, not wearing a seatbelt in a car. Most of the time, the cops don't know if you're wearing your seatbelt or not! But they certainly would know if you crashed your car!!! So if unprotected sex is made illegal (outside of a committed relationship) people can risk it if they want, but if the girl is pregnant and you seek abortion, then the authorities would know about it!!! Then you'd be fined lots of money, or the fine should be built into the cost of an abortion!!! That should be a deterent, wouldn't you say? Eventually people will learn that it's not good to have unprotected sex, they won't have to be told any more. Like wearing a seatbelt in a car, it's become second nature to people now."Promoting childbirth"? I'm sorry but this sounds like you're trying to increase the world's population? That's just dictatorship, pure and simple. You want more people, so you force people to give birth? Go live in a country run by a dictatorship, that's should suit you perfectly.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

"You don't think making unprotected sex illegal is a workable option?"That's exactly what I think!Riding a bike without a helmet is not a good comparison when comparing it to sex. Sure, it shows that the consequences could be fatal, but with the case of pregnancy, one life is certainly at risk, and that could easily become two."...this sounds like you're trying to increase the world's population?"Again, you are making assumptions, and they are wrong.I am all for childbirth, it keeps the system moving. I am against overpopulation. I suggest that rather than kill of a mistake, we educate to prevent the mistake from occurring. Overpopulation is way off the point; my point is that childbirth keeps the population where it should be!"...but if the girl is pregnant and you seek abortion, then the authorities would know about it!!!"Then it is too late.You have just admitted something that I have stated in a previous argument: "unprotected sex will become the next underground drug." And guess what else? Then you see STD's creep back into the problem, in fact, potentially much worse than it was before! And sure, perhaps some people will learn, but not all.You need to admit that banning unprotected sex is a failing system with too many flaws to test. We need to educate productively if we are going to get anywhere with this problem!
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Ok, if outlawing unprotected sex makes it go underground like the drug scene, you don't think the same will happen to abortion if you outlaw that? So many people have brought up the point that outlawing abortion doesn't make it go away, it simply makes the practice unsafe and much riskier. You're contradicting your own points, so just leave it and relax your views a little bit. You also agree that we should educate to prevent mistakes from occuring. That's already happening so we're not arguing about that.You say it's too late to find out about an illegal activity after the consequences? How else can you find out about an illegal activity? Something must happen to bring it to the authorities' attention, duh! How does anyone know if you're wearing your seatbelt when you drive? They don't!!!! But if you have an accident, it becomes apparent, then the law applies! Is it too late? May be it's too late for the driver, but does it serve to educate? YES!!!
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Ok, let's pull out 1,000,000 aborted fetuses and show people what each one looks like.Yeah, that educates, totally.Look, just read my other point, it's a bit too large to miss.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Pull out aborted fetuses and show people? That's what you think an abortion is? My opinion of your mental power/state has just dropped to a new low...
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Clearly you are too much of an idiot to understand sarcasm when you see it.Biased and contradicting at every corner, you people make me sick!
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Oh! You were being sarcastic! Hahahahaha! You actually didn't mean for people to pull out fetuses and wave it in front of people's faces while yelling "Check this out!!!"??? Wow, I actually thought you meant that seriously... Boy, was I wrong!
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

There is no such thing as safe sex, and its not financial.Safe sex: there is no 100% effective prophylactic, and no 100% effective morning after pill (which according to your definition is abortion anyways). More importantly, adoption is not feasible because our nation screws orphans over. How? Simple. They have about a 6 year window (2-8) to be cute enough for adoption, afterwards they live life in an orphanage. Your argument about being frugal only hurts your adoption idea: its true that we have become frugal, but a child born without any inheritance or parentage has no money to start with. The biggest factor is that they are unlikely to get into college, as grades are dependent on a parent's involvement (if you blame teachers, you're already lost).Financial: How? Unless a child is given up within a week of conception, it costs hundreds of thousands a year to raise an infant. Now of course the logical counterargument is that the parents will become attached to their child and raise it. Well A) If they are considering abortions, they may not have the money, and B) they may be bad parents.Oh, there's another option, its just a lot more merciful to put it down before it begins begging on the streets or whoring itself out to pay for meager groceries. And to argue that this is a humans rights issue is just cruel. Human rights issues are genocide and massacres; these fetuses are not self aware enough to know what death is. Even if you believe in the immortal soul, then you can't argue a baby (who is pure) is unable to go to heaven.I rest my case.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

You are wrong. Science has proven that life begins at conception .
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

How has science done that? Any citation? Any proof of that claim?
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

If it is true that, because the child can't survive outside of the womb, it isn't a life, then you would have to assume that someone on a life support machine, or dialysis machine, is also only a potential life - as they could not live without the machine.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

In 95% of cases it is the woman's fault for becoming pregnant, especially in teen cases.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Exactly Helloim. Exactly. They don't take responsibility even after they clearly made the reckless decision to get pregnant by having sex. Then they claim the excuse to kill the child. It's utterly stupid. Claire Underwood had gotten pregnant three times and she was a reckless teen girl. She got three abortions. Her reasoning is absolutely ridiculous and she is one of many cowards who run from the responsibility of looking after a child. Why didn't she just say no and walk away? Because she knew it was wrong and yet she jumped into it. This episode from House of Cards is Season 2 Episode 17. It proves your point about 95% of cases, it is women's fault; particularly young women and teens.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Are you arguing against abortion or against your intelligence?
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

I find this insulting. I think pro-choice people are pro-choice because they are afraid that if women lose the freedom to choose if they have an abortion, we will start to lose other freedoms.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

You find it insulting because I'm insulting you. Your stupendous lack of brains brings me nausea.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Your hypocrisy is pathetic and thus your arguments are invalidated.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

No NVYN, you are the one being offended and throwing insults instead of embracing the truth. Are you that much of a coward to throw back more insults in a reasonable debate? You clearly don't have the brain to be civil don't you? This is what makes you weak, NVYN. So far, Helloim has had the courage to stand up to your hypocrisy as long as this has been going on. That's why I will call you out as well now, NVYN. You are outnumbered, outmatched and intelligence wise, you are as smart as a fly, who can get squashed the moment you lower your guard.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

NVYN is weak in his arguments. Use facts and truth to shoot his subjectivity down. Call out his hypocrisy and you will win, helloim. I am saying this as a friend to you. He is angry just because he doesn't get people like you and I to submit to his subjective views on murdering babies. People like him belong behind bars not in therapy sessions.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Helloim, you are a righteous individual. I am with you on this. We are already losing liberties because of pro choice ppl. Their agenda is only solely focused on aborting infants because all they care about is the women's rights but not the rights of the men having their say nor the children's rights to live. That's the main issue. There is no equal say from the man and you and I both know, it takes a man and a woman to have a child. Responsibility kicks in. That's why it's important to stay chaste until marriage with the right person of the opposite sex/gender. That means the boy meeting the right girl or the girl meeting the right boy and then growing up towards maturity to share a loving and healthy relationship that goes towards marriage for eternity.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Abortion is dumb, all the woman who have any are STUPID!!!! Abortion could ruin the race of mankind!! Then we would all be dead!!!!!!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!I do NOT like the idea of abortion and obama is stupid to give federal funds to abortion!!!!
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Abortion could actually save mankind. An aborted fetus could well grow up to be another Hitler or worse, then mankind would really be f...ed. So think about that!
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Your arguments are invalidated. Perhaps aborting you would've saved mankind the wasteful time to debate here. Abortion does not save mankind.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

a bit dramatic are we? abortions have been going on for a long time, were still here arnt we?! sillyyy
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

So to say that you are the dramatic one? Life is full of dramatic events. Of course I do have the flair of the dramatic! But you? You are just a pitiful clown who thinks it's funny to be making jokes about killing living developing babies in mothers' wombs. You are not even close to being silly, you are immoral and evil. Me? Silly? Hardly. I am serious and I remain serious. I do not make jokes around serious mature discussions. Grow up!I'M BATMAN!Punches you out cold and leaves you for the cops to find some stolen jewelry on you and saves the infant baby boy who was left for dead near a dumpster. His mother wounded and knocked unconscious by kayref. The Batman drives both the mother and her child to a nearby hospital.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should not be banned

Life doesn't begin at conception. A pregnancy is a PROCESS of creating a life. This process begins with CONCEPTION. So conception is merely the beginning of a process. Before the fetus can actually be kept alive outside of the mother's womb by society, then the mother alone must have the choice. Society should not take away her choice unless society can keep it alive without her.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Life indeed begins at a conception between a man and a woman. You are right nattyc. March on with the truth and ignore nvyn who knows not what he does and chooses to remain ignorant and with much contention. It takes one male and one female to make a child. That is called conception. Conception Definition: The act of conceiving a child. Those who deny this are denying biology itself. NVYN is such an idiot who ignores the facts. This is too easy to take him down in this debate because he is purposefully denying facts.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

No on ehas the right to take away someones life or decide if they live or not. by getting rid of an unborn baby it is destroying potential and you will alwaysthink of what could have been.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Exactly. We've all been in that stage as a fetus. If baby lives never mattered, we wouldn't even be here! Pro abortionists want to claim that it's a choice. Well yes, but is it right? Nope, because actions have consequences and often times, in situations like these, more immoral actions lead towards a chain reaction of many many consequences. Regret, coping, emotional trauma etc etc etc. Responsibility is another. Human life matters no matter what and yes, the fate of a developing baby falls in the hands of those who created him or her. The choice isn't as easy as it comes.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Abortion is a terrible thing. Abortion dosn't make you un-pregnant, it makes you a mom of a dead baby. Have the kid and put it up for adoption. Just think, that child could find the cure for cancer or do something extremely great. Abortion is horrible and should be banned ASAP!
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

I think that stupid teenagers and even older women who decided to have sex when they KNEW they couldn't afford a baby should be restricted from it unless there is a medical problem with the mother.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Exactly. It's a huge responsibility once young teen girls and women have crossed the line of "teen sex and fun". Men and women both have a hand in creating children. It isn't the women alone, you know. Biology teaches us that a woman's egg cannot be fertilized unless a man gives her his sperm in sexual intercourse!
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

I think abortion should be banned because if they didn't want the baby in the first place they shouldn't have opened their legs, should've used a condom, started birth control, used spermicide, etc. There are many other options such as giving the baby up for adoption! If you don't understand they are killing the baby while the baby is still alive and forming. The baby can move, feel, cry, etc. Why would you want to kill a innocent child? That's so wrong.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Abortion should be banned in all but extreme cases. When you do an abortion you are killing an innocent baby that never had a chance at life. And while he/she will escape the pains of life he/she will also never know the joy of life either. He/she won't have the chance to grow up and have a girlfriend/boyfriend maybe get married have some kids. He/she won't have that chance. The only time i believe their is a legitimate case is when the mother is going to die because of the baby or maybe if the women and or girl got raped. The extreme cases it should be allowed if the persons parents and spouse/lover agree to it like that women who is brain dead and they are trying to save the baby and the baby will probably be messed up or dead when it comes out
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

I 100% agree with all that you have listed. Good work my friend.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Abortion should be banned!!!! The baby you are killing has done nothing wrong!!!! How would you feel if your mom even thought about killing you before you ever even experienced the world, The only reason is if the baby could kill the mother. You are killing something innocent. Your mom did not do it to you but you can do it to a child!!! You would not even be here if your parents did not care for you or even care to keep you alive. IF YOU DON'T WANT THE CHILD PUT IT IN A FOSTER HOME!!! don't kill it!!!
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Abortion is a topic that is controversial to many, but is it legal? The answer to that is NO. You may say, "But the US Constitution doesn't say anything about that!" I would then reply to you, "Actually, it is." You see one clause in the 14th Amendment in the Bill of Rights states, "All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof...nor shall any state deprive any person of life..." Now as if that isn't proof enough, many would still disagree and say that it could go either way, if you read the rest of the amendment and that a fetus is not a person it's just a pile of cells. Well, if it is just a pile of cells, then that means that if you are having an abortion, then those cells are alive, otherwise you wouldn't need an abortion. But here you go again saying, "But it isn't a person yet." I say, "Well, if it is alive, which I've proven to you already, and inside a woman's womb, then what is it? It certainly not an alien or a dog if it was conceived by two HUMANS, which means that those cells are a HUMAN." So, basically people are paying other people to murder their unborn children. If this is the USA that you wan to live in where innocent, unborn children are murdered, then support abortion, by all means, but if it isn't, then you and I and everyone else needs to do something about this. We liven a democracy, the very first clause of the Constitution says, "We the people..." we are a government by the people, we can make a difference. You just have to make a choice.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Taking one's life is a crime. No matter the circumstances. I understand that rape happens. I am sympathetic towards rape victims that ended up pregnant but to me, that is still not a reason to kill a child. I don't care how old they are, from once they are conceived, they are a human being and it is murder. There is no way around that. If anything, you should carry that child and give him/her up for adoption. That would be the best thing for that child if you are unable/unwilling to take care of it. Especially if you were being irresponsible with a certain other, that is your own fault and your own irresponsibility and you should own up to the results.
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Do you believe human's have the right to self defense? If so, on what grounds?
Debate: should abortion be banned
Side: abortion should be banned

Of course they have that right. And I understand, as a woman, it would be terrifying for something like rape to happen and to get pregnant. That is something that I struggle with as my belief of pro-life. But, I have to stick with my belief which is to save that life of the child. Once you find you are pregnant, it isn't about you anymore. It is about you and the other life you hold in your hands.