azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

Nah man I'm just being a dick; it does frustrate me though aha. I thought it was the other guy, ahaha.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

1. Laws against abortion do not work so forcing this theological (it is theological and only theological) point of view onto others who do not share this point of view does not result in more children born anyway, it's pointless preaching. 2. It would do something though, it would force those who cannot have this procedure by safe and legal means to seek out unsafe and illegal means. Which ironically would lead to more death, this time actual humans dying and not a cult's idea of what a human is.3. There is no one forcing anyone who does not want an abortion to have one, so then why does one side consider it okay to force their point of view? This is not an equivalent debate and we should stop framing it as such. One side wants to force an imagined morality onto another. That is all it is. For it to be equivalent Pro-Choice proponents would need to support forcing others to have abortions, which is not the case.4. We know that at the point where abortion is legal, that thing has no feelings or self-awareness. This means the argument against it is 100% from the perspective of potential. One can try to argue otherwise but when they do they are incorrect. It's not an opinion, it's just incorrect.5. So with this knowledge anti-abortion advocates are not really saying "you're killing a baby" (though no doubt they think they are), they are saying you are killing something which may become a baby.6. Which means that to be consistent they must also argue equally vehemently against nature or god, because one or the other produces millions upon millions of sperm every day that have 100% equal potential life yet which are destroyed even in the act of sex with no contraceptive whatsoever.There is no real argument against abortion, it is all theology based and projecting animate feelings onto inanimate things. I have no respect for any anti-abortion argument which does not also argue for some cure to all the extra sperm and eggs our bodies naturally create.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Against Abortion

1. It's not clear what your criteria is for determining whether or not laws work. Do laws against RAPE work? Women continue to be raped whether our laws make it a crime or not. Also, it's not a theological point of view that abortions violate the rights of a child. It's a Constitutional point of view as noted by the Supreme courts during Roe. (see video link)2. I disagree. With voluntary abortions banned, it's far more likely that both men and women will take prevention more seriously than they do now and that fewer unplanned pregnancies will occur as a result and that will mean fewer deaths in the long run. 3. Protecting the rights of the children now being denied by abortion is no more the same thing as "forcing a viewpoint" onto women than laws against child molestation are "forcing" a viewpoint onto child molesters. Children have a Constitutional right to the EQUAL protections of our laws. Period. 4. As there are cases where children are sometimes BORN (delivered) with only a brain stem and as a consequence can not think, feel pain, etc... (see annencephalic babies) ... and those children have been deemed legal persons. There is no legal or Constitutional criteria for personhood that says a child must be able to feel pain or to be self aware to be entitled to the protections of our laws. 'Potential Children' do not have REAL (tangible) bodies to be disposed of when they are aborted. 5. See above. A child in their first days of their life is MORE than a potential child. A Sperm and an egg are only a "potential" for a child. After conception, the POTENTIAL that the sperm and egg had to create a new child has already been realized and the only thing left is the further growth, development and maturation of the child they created. 6. Appeal to ridicule noted.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

1. Rapes have a victim who is able to report a crime. Abortion has no victim and no one to report the crime as all involved would be willing participants.2. If you believe laws against abortion would lead to either more protection or less sex, then you know nothing about human sexuality. 3. It is completely different than child molestation laws because again, there is a victim when a child is molested. There is no victim in abortion.4. Annencephalic babies are born with a major portion of the frontal lobe which is responsible for cognition. So again, not the same. And also torture. Parents who know ahead of time that their child will be born this way out to have had an abortion early in the pregnancy. 5. No. That is not a child. It has no more ability to think or feel than a plant. Your concept of what a child is is not correct. You are wrong and those who are for forcing their theology on women for this reason are doing more harm than good.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Against Abortion

1. NO murder victims are able to report the crime that took their life. Would you not agree?2. That's your opinion. We have historical facts and data which show pretty well what the facts are. 3. Do you need to see some pictures? 4. WRONG. Annencephalic children are born with ONLY a brain stem. (that's where the name comes from) 5. The Unborn Victims of Violence Act now part of the U.S. Code says that you are wrong about that. In fact, it defines a child in the womb as 'an member of the species homo sapiens in ANY stage of their life and development.'And it has nothing to do with 'theology.'
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

i think its better to do abortion.Women have an inalienable right to determine the circumstances of their lives, and government must not intrude into decisions about personal and private matters.the woman's feelings about becoming a mother, or her ability to take on the burdens of child rearing, is terribly intrusive.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Against Abortion

Not even the Roe v. Wade ruling supports that point of view. If abortion were an 'inalienable right' they would have ruled it so and they would have then denied the State's any right to intervene at all. The fact that States do have the right to regulate abortions and even to prohibit them after a certain point is proof positive that abortion is not an 'inalienable right' by any means.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

Bullshit. Women have the right to choose .
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Against Abortion

No-one has the right to violate a child with their 'choices.'That's why molestation is illegal.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Against Abortion

Women do not have the right to violate children with their so called 'right to choose.'No one does.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

Fetus not a baby yet.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Against Abortion

The medical dictionaries say that you are wrong about that. CHILD:1: an unborn or recently born personhttp://www.merriam-webster.com/medical/child
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

Actually it's a fetusfe·tus (fts)n. pl. fe·tus·es1. The unborn young of a viviparous vertebrate having a basic structural resemblance to the adult animal.2. In humans, the unborn young from the end of the eighth week after conception to the moment of birth, as distinguished from the earlier embryo
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

And why should the fetus have the right to violate the women?
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Against Abortion

Unless the woman was raped, she put the child in her body herself. So really, since she's planning on killing the child - Who is violating who in that case?
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

fetus not childfe·tus (fts)n. pl. fe·tus·es1. The unborn young of a viviparous vertebrate having a basic structural resemblance to the adult animal.2. In humans, the unborn young from the end of the eighth week after conception to the moment of birth, as distinguished from the earlier embryo
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

Although in support of abortion, I must say this is the worst argument for it I have ever seen.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

For many reasons- rape, being underage, serious ilness, abortion is necessary for the mental and physical health of a woman.It is also important that complete idiots do not become mothers because of an accident, too. A child needs to be wanted- not just a mistake.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Against Abortion

If we can justify killing prenatal children this way, why can't we justify killing those already born by using the same logic? We can't because we all agree that children are entitled to the equal protections of our laws. So far, the pro-abortion movement has succeeded in maintaining the denial of rights and personhood to the children being killed by abortions... but that is going to change. In fact, we are already seeing changes taking place with many State's fetal homicide laws. Like it or not, the children of 'idiots' are entitled to the same protections of our laws that everyone else is.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

A person's experiences make them, like hands mold clay. A cluster of cells has extremely little experience, or way of processing experience- so it is barely a person, not even a sentient being. In my country, care homes are as full as the prisons. And for a few, it's a quick transferral from one to the other. Who says life is so great anyway? Need it live?
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

I didn't write the laws which make the killing of another human being a crime of murder. However, I do believe they are necessary and I do look for them to be consistently applied as I do all other laws.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Against Abortion

The right that child has to their life is not something that is weighed against any of those other things you have listed. In our country, if you are a human being, you have an the same right to your life and to the protections of our laws that every other human being has.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

But technically, it's only just alive. There are more alive things than a human foetus that most people are totally fine with killing in any way imaginable. And who cares about the kids dieing of diseases and malnutrition in ledc's when we abort our own children? Priorities need to be in order. All these pro-life people, do you hear them protesting against child cruelty and the minimum wage being too low for parents to feed their children? As soon as you're born, you're off their radar. Our world is collapsing under the weight of too many humans, and you want more?
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Against Abortion

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Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

You might do. I like to think of the world as a whole though. I don't know much about your constitution or of what it consists of, but abortion will happen anyway. The best thing we can do is keep people safe and make sure medical professionals are carrying them out. A similar idea could be applied to suicide, I suppose. The only abortions I'm against is forced abortion and late abortion.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

You might do. I like to think of the world as a whole though. I don't know much about your constitution or of what it consists of, but abortion will happen anyway. The best thing we can do is keep people safe and make sure medical professionals are carrying them out. A similar idea could be applied to suicide, I suppose. The only abortions I'm against is forced abortion and late abortion
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Against Abortion

Lots of violations against children and their rights are going to continue to take place despite our laws against it. We can agree on that level.Where you and I disagree is that you think that some violations (abortion) are acceptable for the 'greater good.'While I and many others find that unacceptable.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

A foetus is not fully aware yet. You have to think of the mother's, the country's the world's situation, and all of these make abortion a rational choice. There's always evil and wrong to every choice, so you have to find the most logical choice to go ahead with. Legal abortion is the solution to the problem of desperate teens going to back-alley butchers.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Against Abortion

Our Constitution says that we all have an equal right to our lives and to the protections of our laws. For your 'world view' to stand un-contested, you are going to have to amend our Constitution and quite frankly, that will never happen and it wouldn't be the end of it even if you did.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

No-one has equal rights, ever. Not even if you write it down. You'll always have the oppressed and the oppressors, unless the world goes happy-go-lucky land. Why fight for small things that we need at the moment when there are larger problems?
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Against Abortion

That doesn't prevent those of us who care to from trying to work on it.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

For today's climate, it's completely unrealistic.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Against Abortion

Again and...You are speaking in platitudes.You seem to be oblivious to the fact that we have a Constitution and a rule of law that is supposed to afford the equal protections of our rights to every individual human being within its jurisdiction.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Against Abortion

What i hear you saying is that you don't think a child's rights begin unless or until they breech your ability to deny them their rights anymore. I'm not sure that you would agree they have any rights even then.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

I am prochoice. I support the right to choose .
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Against Abortion

Child molesters makes choices too. In fact an abortion is a form of molestation itself. Can we agree that one person's right to choose ends where another person's rights begin?
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

How dare you compare a woman's rightful choice with child molestation. As a survivor of sexual abuse, I say "fuck you".
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Against Abortion

An abortion is the ultimate in child abuse. It's a dehumanization of the child, a violation of their physical being and I would argue that because the government essentially sanctions it by turning a blind eye to their killings? It's a crime against humanity that is on par with slavery and the German holocaust.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

An abortion is the ultimate in child abuseexcept it's not a child and it doesn't feel any pain.It's a dehumanization of the childAgain not a child.a violation of their physical being You mean a violation to a thoughtless emotionless unable to feel pain clump of cells?It's a crime against humanity that is on par with slavery and the German holocaust.No it's not. forcing women to give birth would be more akin to slavery.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Against Abortion

Denial is not an argument. It is a child and you have already been show the legal definitions which establishes the fact that they are children.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

not denial it's fact sorry if you have trouble comprehending that.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Against Abortion

You are the one having trouble. I have provided for you a Medical dictionary and Recent changes in our laws which say that a human child in the womb is a 'child.'You can deny that information all you want to. But you can't make it go away.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

And i have provided you a definition too.You can deny that information all you want to.But you can't make it go away.right back at ya.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Against Abortion

Even your definitions and sources support our claims. You are just too blinded by your own ignorance to see it.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

You are just too blinded by your own ignorance to see it.talking about yourself?
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

I am pro-choice as well. That is, I support everyone being free to make choices. Where I suppose you and I might disagree is when and where those choices infringe upon the rights of another. I don't believe that our right to make choices gives us the right to violate the rights, bodies and lives of others with our choices.Do You?
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

I do, meaning that I agree with you. Where exactly are you going with this?
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

There's no where -to- go. We agree that we don't have the right to violate the rights of others with our "choices." I'm glad that we have found at least that much common ground between us.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

Sounds good. :)
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

I would just like to hear evidence that explains why a baby fetus is more important than a cow or an insect. We kill these things by the Billions every year. That's Billions with a 'B' where is the evidence that suggests we are more important than any other living thing. The sanctity of life seems to only be limited to humans and I don't know why.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

As it relates to this debate, it's because we (human beings) say so. We have established it in our laws and in our Constitution that human beings (persons) have certain rights and that we are entitled to the protections of our laws. Voluntary abortions remaining legal is something that runs contrary to those established laws and Constitutional principles and that's really why so many of us oppose it and why we are trying to make it (voluntary abortions) illegal.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

After thinking about this question and going through countless debates, this ultimately comes down to what you, as a person value more.Do you value free will? Or do you value life? Not human life, just life. You can guess which side I am on just be looking at my username.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

I'm sorry, but women are people too. As are the children they could have had. What would you say if, by making abortion illegal, you caused a huge part of the next generation to be homeless, because the parents could not support a child? Or both the child and the mother DIED because she couldn't safely have children? What if a girl walking home from school had her life changed, because she was raped and became pregnant? It's not right to (pardon the pun) "play god" when the lives of girls and women everywhere are at stake. It is the woman's own decision whether to keep a child or not.
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Against Abortion

I'm sorry, but women are people tooThe fetus in them will also be a person.What would you say if, by making abortion illegal, you caused a huge part of the next generation to be homelessI would say there's a thing called adoption. Just because you shouldn't be able to get an abortion doesn't mean you should raise it, too.What if a girl walking home from school had her life changed, because she was raped and became pregnant?Not only are those individual cases, but rape-related abortions represent a very tiny percentage of abortions.It's not right to (pardon the pun) "play god" when the lives of girls and women everywhere are at stakeSo it's not okay to "play god" with women and girls, but it's fine to "play god" with a fetus? That's a bit hypocritical.It is the woman's own decision whether to keep a child or notIt's surprising that your argument for abortion is the same argument for slavery. "Since it's on your property, you get to decide if it's a human or not".
Debate: Are you against Abortion? Or do you Support it?
Side: Supportive of Abortion

Well, first off being a man I do not really think I should have much of a say in this matter. Maybe men should get a half vote?The only legitimate point, in my opinion, against other than moral/theological points would be that it infringes on the rights of the child. The biggest argument being at one point does it become a child. If we say it is at conception then you could probably argue that male masturbation or safe sex should be outlawed because the seed is being destroyed and it holds potential life. This is where people differ.I cannot imagine the pain a girl would have to go through to be forced to carry a child of a rapist. But that being said I do know a rape baby. He is one of my fraternity brothers and I love him like a real brother. I was in his wedding, i was at his adoptive fathers funeral and I will always love him and be at his funeral if he dies before me. I am very grateful to his mom for not aborting him. He went on to college and is now a counselor to teens and his adoptive parents couldn't be more prouder.I also know a "happy accident." she is my god daughter and I am very glad that those two stupid teens could not afford the abortion. I will be at all her birthday parties, her graduation (high school and college) and her wedding, that is if me and her dad let another guy take her.I can understand the point of both sides. But maybe we should stop pouring money into abortions and research and start funding ways to help young mothers, find adoptive homes, help families afford adoption and fund better foster care. Fund law enforcement to try and prevent more rape and find a way that helps prevent or eliminate the need for abortions.