azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

Okay, by that reasoning, because Stalin and Mau killed millions of people, atheism killed millions of people.No, that would mean that I was saying that Christianity was responsible for slavery. That isn't what I was saying.Therefore, atheists cannot be good people, since atheists like Stalin and Mau killed millions of people. Why is it so hard for you to answer the question? I made no judgment about how bad Christians were for having slaves. I didn't say they were bad for having slaves, or that it was because they were Christian. I seriously have no ill will toward Christians with respect to American slavery. What I don't see is the part in the history book where all the slave owners converted to Christianity, then abolished slavery. I don't think that Christianity had anything to do with slavery. I am just trying to figure out how you can make the claim that Christianity was involved with the ending and not with the beginning. As an Atheist I have the ability to not judge while doing that.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

"Sweet, so you are saying that not accepting Jesus as your personal savior is no longer a sin. Great. So there is no reason to be a Christian."What do you understand by accepting Jesus?
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

Until I learned differently from you I was under the impression that Jesus died for our sins and anyone who hears about Jesus and accept that he is the son of God can spend eternity in the kingdom of heaven. As long as you agree that Jesus is your savior and he died for your sins you can ask for his forgiveness and be rewarded in heaven. But, if you don't accept Jesus you will not go to heaven and will be sent to hell instead. Thankfully you have pointed out that none of this is true and there is no reason to praise Jesus. Thank you for that.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

"Thankfully you have pointed out that none of this is true and there is no reason to praise Jesus. Thank you for that."Wrong! I was only saying that some Christians don't preach the message of Jesus with love. You are putting words in my word again.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

WRONG! You said the Bible doesn't say you burn in hell if you don't believe in Jesus. I didn't put any words in you, you aren't putting the correct words out.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

The Bible didn't say so, you did, which is a lie. Provide a quote and you will see that Bible said something else. You are giving false witness.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

So, now you are saying the Bible does say you burn in hell if you don't believe in Jesus. Why don't you make up your mind?The Bible didn't say so, you did, which is a lie.Ooh, now you don't know what lying is either. Is there anything you do know?Provide a quote and you will see that Bible said something else.Interesting, the guy with all of the knowledge still can't provide any information.You are giving false witness.I don't think I am. I would ask you how you came to that conclusion, but you would probably tell me to look it up on my own.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

You just joking around and haven't shown the signs of someone interested in a serious conversation. Hey, it's the Internet and you can say anything you like, even though you have no idea about what you are talking about.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

I am serious and giving information. You are the one on here who isn't putting forth any information.Can someone get into heaven if they are a good person but reject Christ as savior?
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

"Sending someone to hell will not allow for someone to remedy the situation."If someone doesn't make the effort in this life, they will never make the effort in any life.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

The rules that you are talking about say nothing about making an effort to remedy the situation. You go to hell if you don't remedy the situation, regardless of effort.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

"Will you please make up your mind. Do souls get punished forever or do they come back to Earth?"I have made up my mind long time ago. The Bible speaks of the resurrection and all souls returning to earth. You don't seem to know much about Christian doctrine, yet seem eager to speak evil of it.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

When all souls return to earth, they will be judged. They righteous will remain, and the unjust will be condemned. The term forever speaks to the fact that their condemnation will be permanent and not revoked.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

That seems kind of stupid, what was wrong with the original judgment? Did God do a bad job the first time?
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

This has nothing to do with what we are talking about and you know it. So, souls who get sent to hell will not be in hell forever?
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

It has everything to do with what we are talking about and I know what I'm talking about. You are making statements on the afterlife without really knowing much about the doctrine on the afterlife. How can you know whether it is just or unjust if you don't even know the doctrine(s) on the afterlife?
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

It has everything to do with what we are talking about and I know what I'm talking about. You are making statements on the afterlife without really knowing much about the doctrine on the afterlife. How many times does this resurrection party take place?How can you know whether it is just or unjust if you don't even know the doctrine(s) on the afterlife?How many times does a soul get judged before God gets it right?
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

How many times does the soul get judged?You obviously don't know the Christian doctrine of the afterlife.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

There is only one judgment for every soul. The Bible makes several references to this judgment.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

So, the fact that the souls get resurrected is meaningless because all of the souls that went to hell will be punished anyway.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

Hey, you are the one who can't answer the questions.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

The frustrating thing is YOU DON'T KNOW THE DOCTRINE ON THE AFTERLIFE YET HAVE THE NERVE TO TALK AS THOUGH YOU ARE WELL INFORMED ON WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES ABOUT THE AFTERLIFE. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT THE BIBLE TEACHES ON HELL, OR THE RESURRECTION, OR THE NEW HEAVEN AND NEW EARTH. YOU DON'T KNOW OF THE IDEA OF HELL ORIGINATED AND HOW THE IDEA HAS CHANGED OVER THE YEARS IN. DON'T GET INTO SUBJECTS YOU DON'T KNOW OF, WITH MISINFORMED PRESUPPOSITIONS.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

It wouldn't be so frustrating to you if you actually knew what you were talking about and could explain it. ;)
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

I have studied on the afterlife and can tell you that it is an extensive subject. That is why it is frustrating that your are reducing a difficult subject to nonsense. I mean, where did you get that the Bible said you will "burn" if you don't believe in Jesus. Do you know what the Bible means by "believe" and "perish" respectively, in what context and where in the Bible?I think you just want to make outrageous statements for the fun of it, just to get a rise out of people. Either that, or you are insistent taking one of several views on the afterlife in Christianity (the literal eternal hell) to represent what all Christians believe.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

I have studied on the afterlifeAwesome, but that's impossible.I mean, where did you get that the Bible said you will "burn" if you don't believe in Jesus.It is a sin to not accept Jesus. Sinners go to hell. Are you saying that the fact that I have not accepted Jesus will not keep me from going to hell? If you are mad about the use of the word burn than you are the one who is doing the ridiculous reducing.Do you know what the Bible means by "believe" and "perish" respectively, in what context and where in the Bible?I fail to see how this fits into our conversation.I think you just want to make outrageous statements for the fun of itThat's part of it, but it is also the repeating of what I hear from Christians.just to get a rise out of people.But, not in this case.Either that, or you are insistent taking one of several views on the afterlife in Christianity (the literal eternal hell) to represent what all Christians believe.I didn't know that it was against the rules to claim that Christians believe in Christianity.Strange, I still see no actual afterlife knowledge in your post. I wonder when it will come.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

"That's part of it, but it is also the repeating of what I hear from Christians."That is true. Sadly, some Christians don't do a good job of representing the faith or explaining difficult subjects like what happens to someone when he or she dies.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

Yeah, especially you.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

The afterlife is important and Jesus Christ is a fundamental part of it. Believing in Jesus goes deeper than merely acknowledging. It is living the words of Christ, loving others as we love ourselves.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

Let's see if you can show any knowledge whatsoever. If you live the words of Christ by loving others as you love yourself, can you still make it to heaven without acknowledging Christ is your savior?
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

Sending beings to an eternity of torture for not believing in you clearly is an immoral thing. So is flooding the world and killing almost everyone and everything on it.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

Sending beings to an eternity of torture for not believing in you clearly is an immoral thing.Why? So is flooding the world and killing almost everyone and everything on it.Why?
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

1. Inflicting endless torment on some one conventionally is immoral although not inherently.2.So is killing some one.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

You are arguing against yourself then. Of it isn't inherently wrong then it cannot serve as the objective. Thus the actions of God are neutral.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

The debate says "Is the Christian God Evil?" not "Is the Christian God Objectively Evil" Therefore we should be able to argue why we find it evil even if it is subjective, if you aren't swayed, you aren't swayed however his argument isn't invalid, you just don't agree with his sense of morality... we can convince you how it might be a desirable moral argument for you, but if you don't agree you don't agree. Fore example people claim that god has committed genocide, and that makes god evil to some, they perceive that as a bad thing. If that isn't a bad thing to you, then there is no point of convincing you of it, we can only argue why it may be a preferable morality. I could also argue that morality being subjective it is a result of our evolution, and argue how committing genocide is counter productive to our evolution as well as arguing it being lacking compassion of well being which is equally important to me and others.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

1. Torture brings about the pain and suffering of another, the very definition of immorality. In this case, it is ETERNAL.2. Again, killing - generally speaking - is an immoral act.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

Torture brings about the pain and suffering of another, the very definition of immorality. In this case, it is ETERNAL.This is the definition:   the quality or state of being immoral; especially :  unchastity Morality is subjective. Thus anything that is deemed moral or immoral is only a collective subjective. It is not the objective. It cannot be intrinsically true. Therefore torture or even mass murder is only deemed good or bad by society, which again is subjective, and thus is not intrinsically true.Again, killing - generally speaking - is an immoral act.I have already addressed this.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

While I reject the claim that morality is subjective, I'll concede that that is besides the point. The question is whether or not God is evil, so I'll simply rephrase what I think was the point of the initial argument: torture is evil and so is killing.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

The question is whether or not God is evil, Exactly. The way you see God is not the objective. It's the collective subjective. You connotation of God is your subjective view point of God. Ot does not describe him inherently. torture is evil and so is killingNeither of these are evil. The definitions do not support evil. They do not allude to evil. You have to determine what it is. Thus it is subjective.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

The determination of the meaning of words or terms is not subjective. We all agree on what type of object a table refers to; it has an objective definition. So the key point here is finding an objective definition of evil that is clear, precise and is verifiable. Since you have a contention with the way I am using it, I will allow you to determine under what definition you are willing to use the word "evil" and we can go from there.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

God doesn't send anyone anywhere merely for not believing in Him. That is an outright lie!"Belief" in the Bible is usually used in the context of complying. God therefore sends people to hell for not complying with Him in terms of the moral worth of their actions.Faith without works is dead!And the flooding took hundreds of years before coming to pass. That was plenty of time for the people at the time to change their minds. But they were hardened to God's mercy, the same way you have hardened yourself to His mercy.Besides, if God made the world and it is his world, He has a say in His world and how it ought to be, and the option of starting over if He chose to. If God waited patiently for hundreds of years for wicked people to change, and they didn't, when He finally punished them, how can that be evil? And we are not sure whether the entire planet was destroyed or a local civilization (as with Sodom and Gomorrah).
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

Ya... religious people are delusional. You can give them the most rational argument ever but it still won't get though to their thick heads.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. -1 John 1:5
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all. -1 John 1:5What goes through your head other than sheer denial when you read the arguments on the left?
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

What goes through your head other than sheer denial when you read the arguments on the left?Are you really that interested in wanting to know what I am thinking? I could honestly care less what people on the left think.Plus no matter how many times I defend the faith. My point will never be driven across but at least I tried explaining things to others.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

I sense you are strongly guided by emotion.In time, I hope you may consider how reliable it is to listen to the voices of both sides, through an unbiased stand point- I assure you, it will feel enlightening.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

I have examined both sides and I realized that most of the unbiased side is mostly people who don't know why God put did the things that He did and they took it out of context. But the side I am on I actually find answers to those questions.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

To be truly unbiased, you must pretend that you are undecided in your decision to be Christian or Non-Christian. And you must read the arguments of both sides to make a decision.For me, something just isn't connecting on this side.I am certain you must be familiar with the bible verse that states that stoning a rape victim to death is law?Although you may say this verse was taken out of context, what would God have to say to the victims of people who actually stuck to the bible's word and followed the practice of stoning rape victims?God's ambiguity and subtlety of words actually caused needless physical and mental torment among humans, because he was not intelligent enough to predict that some humans may take his words at face-value.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

Do not mistake me for a fool- respond to this argument. I urge you.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

If you press him, he runs away. Always has. Just like he runs away from the horrible truth of the god he worships in his mind.It brings about images of a child sitting in the corner with his fingers in his ears when he doesn't want to face up to what's being said.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

I could honestly care less what people on the left think.So you do not care to hear why others feel different than you on this subject but want to give your reasons why you feel you do anyway. Plus no matter how many times I defend the faith. My point will never be driven across but at least I tried explaining things to others.You feel your points have been explained despite not comparing your points to what others have written on the issue. Surely the petition of principle you posted for your side of the debate flies in the face of the actions outlined. It explains nothing but relies on tautology and no examination of actions or even context.This is actually quite common in western religions. I blame Augustine for this as he structured how Christian religions approach these issues by writing how philosophy is to be religions hand maiden. That is to say religion could only illuminate the scriptures and not question the scriptures.But hey, I am not here to change your mind or troll you. Just saying if you feel the way you do there was little point for you to even type in this thread isn't there? I understand folks not wanting to address some issues that they hold deep within their web of belief but the above seems like a case of you want your cake and to eat it too. That seems to be a big hurdle to effectively changing peoples minds or even examining your own ideas. Think that could be related to why your point may never be 'driven across'?
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

Are you really that interested in wanting to know what I am thinking? I could honestly care less what people on the left think.I do care what you think Srom.I want to help you.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

So believing in god is a mental illness!?Wow that is so arrogant of you! Just like a stupid Atheist. I am sick and tired of your kind preaching around as if your the ones that have the right answer! You morons are forcing your subjective beliefs onto Christians as if they are the objective! Just stop it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

Well these "morons" of whom you are speaking so negatively of on average have higher IQ than you lot so if I were you I would be keeping my trap shut on the topic of Atheism and intelligence.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

Well these "morons" of whom you are speaking so negatively of on average have higher IQ than you lot so if I were you I would be keeping my trap shut on the topic of Atheism and intelligence.That's so childish. "Haha we're smarter than you so be quiet!", Is what that argument looks like. There's no way you can prove that because you are just being immature.*
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

I'm sorry but it was you who brought intelligence into this by calling us morons in the first place so it is a bit hypocritical to call me childish for using it as an argument when you did it first.The only immature person is you with your pathetic name calling.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

No thanks, I don't need your help. I think you are the one that really needs help and others.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

It's no use trying to help a person like Srom... unless you have a straight jacket.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

It's not denial but false recognition. Any action that God makes is not inherently evil, but it can be extrinsically seen as good, bad, or neutral. All things follow along this path.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

I completley disagree, that does not in anyway validate the goodness of God. Darkness is the absence of light and darkness is only conceptuale which entails that darkness can not exist in anything, so that passage has no meaning.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

That verse has everything to do with how God isn't evil. Look at Satan for example he is of the darkness and he is evil. God is of the light and is good.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

Look at Satan for example he is of the darkness and he is evil.Like I just explained, darkness doesn't exist.God is of the light and is good.So everything in the light is Good?Hitler got plenty of sunlight, I am sure. He must be good as well.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

If God was evil, what would stop Him from lying to His subjects?
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

What makes you think God is lying?
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

Short answer: Because He is evil and He says He is not. Long answer: I didn't actually say He was lying. You quoted God saying that He wasn't evil. My argument is that an evil being will lie. What would stop an evil God from lying about being good?
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

Short answer: Because He is evil and He says He is not. what makes you think He is evil?Long answer: I didn't actually say He was lying. You quoted God saying that He wasn't evil. My argument is that an evil being will lie. What would stop an evil God from lying about being good?God isn't an evil being. God is good and He told the truth that is written down in His word.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

what makes you think He is evil?Does evil stuff.God isn't an evil being. God is good and He told the truth that is written down in His word.Let's see if I can save you from complete stupidity. If a being were evil, is there anything to stop that being from lying about being good? Let's assume this being isn't God.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

Does evil stuff.Like what? Let's see if I can save you from complete stupidity. If a being were evil, is there anything to stop that being from lying about being good? Let's assume this being isn't God.I don't understand what you mean. You're only confusing me even more.
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Yep

Like what? Murdering of 99.999% of the Earth population, for starts.I don't understand what you mean. You're only confusing me even more.What's the matter with you? Can an evil being lie?
Debate: Is the Christian God evil?
Side: Nope

Murdering of 99.999% of the Earth population, for starts.They where nephilimGenesis 6 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,2 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.3 And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.5 And God saw that the wickedness of man was great in the earth, and that every imagination of the thoughts of his heart was only evil continually.