Debate: Abortion is a selfish action to alleviate an undesirable consequence
Side: False

Alright first off rape and insets are terrible things, so what should you do? Punish the rapist/inset, not the kid. you go ahead and do that. But no matter what you think you're doing, you are punishing an innocent woman, who've been raped not only physically, but also the raper fucked her mind up for life.If you're okay doing that.. really I can't see why the world has become this.So? Just cause something isn't conscious its not alive?I didn't say that. I said the ''child'' is not a kid. It's a fetus, not a human. It has been scientifically proved, that a fetus isn't a human.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FetusIt says there on the top, that on the 11th week of a pregnancy, the human stage starts.I'm saying "what happened was fucked up, but the child did nothing, please, don't kill it"You're saying to a raped woman: Hey, it was your rapist who committed a crime. His baby did nothing, so please be his mother.You're saying that to a woman, who .. probably is never going to be the same just because of the rape. And then you can make yourself ASK her.. seriously, I would like you to ask a woman face to face, who just got raped by her father or something, to not kill the result of the crime, because of what?!?!?! Because the child didn't do anything? THE MOTHER DIDN'T DO ANYTHING EITHER except being a victim to a crime.No No No, you have it wrong, the purpose of sex is to reproduce that is the only reasonYou must have a sad sad life.No, condoms and the day after pill are to very different things. Condoms stop the sperm from going into the vagina, thus making pregnancy almost impossible, day after pills kill the sperm before it fertelizes the egg, understand? Abortion is when you kill the baby after the egg has been fertelized and it is now alive. Contraception and abortion are two different things.Yeah but the result is the same. No baby. You said yourself:  So? Just cause something isn't conscious its not alive? A baby has a visible heart and lungs after a week or two, is that alive? There is do difference between killing a human and fetus because they are the same thing, just cause baby is in the womb or not conscious does not mean its not alive and has no right to life.The sperm making a baby is alive. It is moving around. And blabla. The difference between me and you is, that you think that a sperm is not valuable for life .. me I think that it doesn't matter whether you kill a sperm or a fetus. The result is the same.The drunk man kills another man, the woman kills a child, understand?Well no actually. I thought we debated abortion her, not murder?If your talking about a woman killing her child we're on a different debate.I'm talking about women who kill fetuses, not children.Again, regardless of the reason, your still killing a child.See, this is where I have to say, that debating with you is pointless if you will continue saying fetuses are children. Sure. AFTER the fetus has become human, then it should be illegal to kill them.But scientifically fetuses aren't human. That is scientifically proved, it was never scientifically proved, that black people weren't human.