azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

What the hell are you people talking about? What do you mean by "political correctness"? How does calling black people African-Americans lead to "eliminating liberties"? Obama has not promoted racism. Why do you think he has?What is his "agenda"? I can assure you it involves nothing more than improving the lives of the American people.I took a look at the people Obama has surrounded himself with. I see good Americans.The stimulus was not a sham, you're allegation that it was reflects a lack of understanding of economics.Short term deficit increases were necessary to clean up the messes Obama inherited when he took office. Deficit reduction will begin after we have taken care of them. (Source)You need to provide some concrete evidence for all of these outrageous accusations you're throwing around. Without any evidence, you just sound like a delusional idiot.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

You have given absolutely ZERO evidence that Obama is a socialist. In fact, anyone that knows anything about real socialism knows that Obama is no socialist. Bernie Sanders?? Now there's a socialist!
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

Gun control (same thing all communist countries did)fairness doctrinesocialized healthcaregovernment run buisnessestaking money away from hard working Americans & giving it to free loaders.Explain that. Obama is not a capitalist.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

Gun controlWhat about gun control? All countries have gun control. America had gun control laws before Obama was in office. And what exactly has he done with respect to gun laws that you don't like?8fairness doctrineBy your previous complaint about the fairness doctrine, it's almost abundantly clear that you don't know what it is or what it deals with.government run buisnessesThere are currently no government run businesses.taking money away from hard working Americans & giving it to free loadersLike who?Explain that. Obama is not a capitalist.*I can explain these things quite easily. Your head is filled with misconceptions, vagaries and outright lies.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

you label all poor people as "Free Loaders", be definition if you feel that way then you must label all rich people as "the most attractive, smart, powerful, best people in the world" even the ones who rode there daddies coat tails to the top. And about gun control, a taser and knowing how to use martial arts is a far better way of self defense unless you want to go hunting. Also, taxes increase a lot under republican leadership to. And so far, America has no Gov't run business unless you count the stuff thats been there for 100's of years like the postal services.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

"Gun control"What has Obama actually DONE in this area?? Nothing."fairness doctrine"Again, what has Obama actually DONE in this area?? Nothing."socialized healthcare"I WISH that Obama's plan was a single payer health care system, but it isn't, period."government run buisnesses"Absolutely ZERO businesses in the USA are being run by govt. bureaucrats, period."taking money away from hard working Americans & giving it to free loaders."Exactly how many tax increases has Obama implemented so far?? Zero, in fact, he's CUT the payroll taxes for over 90% of Americans, period!
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

Health Care...what has he done in this area?NOTHING!A lack of accomplishment is not a lack of attempting. Just glad there are correct thinking Americans out there blocking his way.But hey! He did win a Nobel Peace prize for "trying"
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

"Health Care...what has he done in this area?NOTHING!"He's already gotten the health care insurance companies to cut 1.5% out of the cost of health care for every year over the next 10 years. Also, he's gotten hospitals to agree to accept slightly less in the way of payments from the govt. as it relates to health care. I frankly don't know HOW he was able to pull this off already, but he has, period.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

Man I'm getting tired of typing this. AHEM!!! The Living Webster Encyclopedic Dictionary of the English Language. And I quote..."socialism, A theory or method of social organization and government wherby the citizenry jointly owns he means of production and distribution, and the power of administrative control is vested in the state; in Marxism, an intermediate state which must necessarily follow capitalism before the goal ot a totally lassless society can become a functional reality.socialist, One who advocates socialism; a person who belongs to a political party so named.socialize, To render social, as to suit something to the uses or needs of society; to render sociable, as to make fit for life in companionship with others; to render socialistic, as to establish or regulate according to the theories of socialism. To participate in friendly interchange with other people. Now, that being said. Nowhere in the Constitution of the United States do I recall anything about the government being entitled to the power of creating an equal society. Sure, it is nice that some elected officials truly want to help their fellow man, but it does not take long for greed to get a grip and turn things upside down. The statement that there is no evidence Obama is not a socialist, are you kidding me? Government mandated health care? You all know what mandate means don't you? Being commanded to do so. That means YOUR government is wanting to command everyone in this country to get healthcare. Again, nowhere in the Constitution of the United States do I ever remember seeing anything about the entitlement of power given to the government to demand anything from the Soveriegn (us, as in We The People).
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

It appears like several people on this site believe that, if a person promotes or believes in a particular course of action then that alone can make a person anything that is associated with that action. You mention that because Obama is suggesting mandated healthcare he is socialist. You assume that government mandates are socialistic and thus obama is a socialist. It also happens to be the case that mandates exist in countries ruled by fascists or democratically elected presidents. In the US we have laws (mandates) that you can't rob or kill someone. Does this make the US socialist what about the person who came up with this law? No. Also most US states mandate that you have car insurance. Does this make the US or advocates of such a mandate socialist? No. Fascists are often associated with state executions so would that make proponents of the death penalty in america fascists? No.If you examine the healthcare plan that obama offers you will see that as a whole it is capitalistic or at least not socialistic. I already mentioned in another post but for your convenience I will point out more about the capitalistic nature of the plan.1) The public option is a vast pool of resources that is bought in bulk from other health providers. In actuality the plan is merely a government insurance company that promises to be cheaper yet remain competitive with other companies. a) The government won't fix prices that operations or prescriptions must adhere to. The prices will drop because the government can buy in bulk and thus create savings.2) The public option is an OPTION you don't have to choose it. You have the OPTION of keeping your own insurance company that you purchased or get from your employer.a) being able to choose your provider means that the market is still the ultimate manipulator of prices. If the government provides cheaper and better healthcare, using market strategies then it will because of the market that you decide to purchase that healthcare.3) This plan retains the health insurance companies and allows them to choose their own prices and methods. It does not close them down or set artificial price ceilings or floors.a) it merely requires that the insurance companies don't drop already paying customers if they have a precondition.b) it also requires that the insurance companies don't discriminately price their services or products based on someone's' health. If you are judging obama and his actions, and this bill is a reflection of his actions, on one association between the actions and the methodology then shouldn't you be saying he is a capitalist? There are more capitalistic features in the bill than socialistic and the capitalistic ones are also of a greater magnitude.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

Mandatory laws against robbery and killing are worlds apart from forced health care. Roberry is a violation against another persons private property. Killing is a violation against another persons life. A violent act. Both immoral, but robbery is not considered violent. So, by your comparison, an individual that does not buy health insurance, is an immoral act towards another person. Hmm. That's some pretty messed up logic.  You state that there wil lbe an option. You do not have to get the government policy, BUT you have to be insured none-the-less, or else face fines and penalies. THAT my friend is communism, whatever form. So before you try to get all factual on me, think about this. Communism is a type of government that makes law that infringes on peoples freedom of choice, no matter what. This Republic was set up to not infringe, in any way, upon the personal choices of it's citizens, so long as the choice was not contradictory of morality.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

First of all, I was pointing out that there are already institutions in place that resemble your definition of socialism, I was not saying I agree with them (the auto insurance and the health insurance mandates). The mandates means that the health insurance companies will be guaranteed customers. That doesn't seem very socialistic to me, the promise that a corporation will make a lot of money at the expense of the common people and workers. It's a ceo's and stockholder's dream come true.Yes the republic was set up to not infringe on a persons rights, so why is there such a large population of Americans, a majority being conservative, who fight against same-sex marriage, marijuana, and abortion? Opposing these are all infringements on a person's rights yet many believe the government should infringe on those rights. Are all those people, who happen to be mainly conservatives, communists? Generally, not at all.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

"The statement that there is no evidence Obama is not a socialist, are you kidding me? Government mandated health care? You all know what mandate means don't you? Being commanded to do so. That means YOUR government is wanting to command everyone in this country to get healthcare. Again, nowhere in the Constitution of the United States do I ever remember seeing anything about the entitlement of power given to the government to demand anything from the Soveriegn (us, as in We The People)."Well, if you think that Obama's health care plan in "unConstitutional", then I guess that govt.-mandated auto insurance and things like Medicare & Medicaid are also "unConstitutional", which there aren't BTW. Oh well...
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

Government mandated auto insurance is a must. Why? When you are on the road, you, through simply being in a motorized box of steel, create a risk of injury and or death to all other motorists on the same road, therefore, needing to protect the other guy. That is the reason why there are different levels of protection and is solely up to you to make the judgement on which is right for you. But still yet, it is not mandatory in all states, although they do have some sort of program. As I stated before, the reason for auto insurance is mainly to protect the other guy which is completely different than health insurance. So, your rebuttle there is null. Medicare and medicaid? These two programs are, although tax payer funded, are completely voluntary, not mandatory.The "un"Constitutional aspects of Mr. Obamas' "plans" are that health care BE mandatory, i.e. forced. Again, your rebuttle is voided.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

"Government mandated auto insurance is a must. Why? When you are on the road, you, through simply being in a motorized box of steel, create a risk of injury and or death to all other motorists on the same road, therefore, needing to protect the other guy."Hmmmm, it seems like having mandatory health care coverage would insure that a minimum of sick people would be going around infecting everyone else."Medicare and medicaid? These two programs are, although tax payer funded, are completely voluntary, not mandatory."How is Medicare & Medicaid (otherwise known as two wildly popular & successful govt.-run health care systems) "unConstitutional" then??"Again, your rebuttle is voided"...in your own mind that is...lol... There is NOTHING "unConstitutional" in the current health care reform packages, period.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

No evidence is necessary. It is self evident...wait a sec where have I heard that one : )Constant interference in the individuals right to make decisions for themselves.Interference or just plain take over of education, banks, auto industry, housing, health care, guns, media, ....man the list is almost endless.Self evident.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

the rest of the world is more important. 6 billion vs 300 million, which is more. We have the power help something other than are selfs so we should
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

No one in this world is more important than my family. No one! I will help all that I can and the the people of the USA have always been the most generous of all the world but we do this at OUR discretion.All power of the government comes from us. Not the other way around They have no power to do what we cannot..that is take from one to give to another...except from the point of a gun.They are no different than a thug on the street.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

i agree that our power comes for the people, but thats a very communist thing to say; after all, China (the PEOPLES Republic of China) and other socialist nations try to make the people the leaders by makeking everyone the same. Personly, if i could save my family of for, or 6 billion people i would chose the 6 billion because im not the only one who has a family and neither are you, with out them there is not you.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

Nothing Communist about what I said and actually its the governments power that comes from the people...not the peoples. That "power" or our "rights" are natural and self evident. China's use of the name "Peoples Republic" is propaganda.They are almost completely dominated in every facet of their lives by the government. Even in what little economic freedom they are "allowed" to have by that government. That is not power from the people.Also the term republic has no place in Red Chinahttp://dictionary.reference.com/browse/republic As far as your statement about "everyone being the same" in no way shape or form can anyone say that there is a place on this earth where everyone is the equal. Even in the USA. The main difference is in the USA everyone is born equal with the RIGHT to become unequal.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

i never said that China was a nation driven by the people, but most socialist nations ARE driven by the people. And Obama hasn't done anything Socialist yet, even his health care is not socialist because it is not being entitled to all of America, only the ones who don't have it already. I don't see whats so wrong about trying to keep people healthy, no matter what the cost. Every human life is importance, from the poorest beggar to the riches person and every and all in between.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

"...i agree that our power comes for the people, but thats a very communist thing to say; after all, China (the PEOPLES Republic of China) and other socialist nations"My apologies. I must have been confused by the way you highlighted the "Peoples" in the Peoples Republic of China and then grouped them in with other countries that you consider socialist. "...And Obama hasn't done anything Socialist yet, even his health care is not socialist because it is not being entitled to all of America, only the ones who don't have it already"Well I have to admit I am going to split hairs here...if I am am not mistaken...and I very well could be... Obama has no plan as of yet it is all Reid or Baucus or Pelosi bills so he gets a bit of slack here but not much as he is an import driving force in the whole matter. But all these bills will eventually require ALL people in USA to be on the Government plan.Also I have to disagree with you, respectively, that Obama has done nothing socialistic yet. He has committed , in my opinion, many socialistic actions since taking office and plans many more. From trying to control wages to firing executives of PRIVATE companies. And he is not finished yet.This is just opinion here but I believe he will sign ANY bill that comes to him so that he can claim a victory."...I don't see whats so wrong about trying to keep people healthy, no matter what the cost."I don't either! As long as it is ME that gets to choose where MY money goes...not being forced to by others. But "real" life requires us to be aware of the ultimate cost. The cost can, and will most likely will, bankrupt this country. Who then will pay for our health care? The Chinese?Thank you for your response.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

those things arn't very socalist that you said... "firing executives of PRIVATE companies..." that is a very capalist thing to do in my opion. Cut out the dieased parts before they spead. That CEO got us into this by trying to make more money in unstable loans and such. If you don't win, you lose. And NONE of the plans requires every one to be on a gov't plan. This plan will lower the prices of private healthcare. health care cost more in America than anyother place in the world because of coprate greed. You can get the same health plans for less in Mexico and get better treatement (unless your a CEO or old rich dude, then in America your paper cuts are more grave than that guy who's arm got cut off)
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

I would agree with you that firing executives from companies IS a very capitalistic thing to do when you are fired from your job in the private sector by your boss. It is socialistic when a private citizen is fired from his job by a politician.I have to disagree with your assertion that none of the bills will require us to be on the government plan. While they may or may not allow you at first to not participate the environment is being created that will "nudge" us all into that trap through penalties on our employers as well as private citizens. And all of the plans that have a "public option" or "consumer option" or what ever euphemism one chooses to use, have triggers set up so that when the government decides that certain guidelines are not met, forced enrollment in the government plan is required. That should be interesting as all the politicians I have heard acknowledge that the only way any of these plans can work is if every citizen is on their plan.Better treatment in Mexico? I seriously doubt that. Otherwise people from all over the world would go there to get treated instead of coming to USA. The reason Health care cost more in the US than anywhere else is because it is the BEST and because it is less subsidized by the government here than anywhere else. Don't forget that when the government subsidizes ANYTHING it is with OUR money as they have none of their own. They must take it from us to give it to others. Thank you for your response.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

actually, alot of people do that in California and more south states, but most Mexicans can not afore the health care even if its cheaper that many parts of the world, is only useful if you live in a city with a hospital in it.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

This is interesting as I live in the South. It has never been my experience that people here go to Mexico for anything other than drugs or vacation.Any stats to back that up? It would be interesting to look at the demographics of stats of that type.Thank you for your response
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

I agree. Not only do we need to think about the future results of our actions now, but we also need to realize what this nation was founded on... GOD. One nation under God~!
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

"...but we also need to realize what this nation was founded on... GOD. One nation under God~!"No it wasn't. Do you know what Article 11 of the The Treaty of Tripoli is? It was a declaration of peace between The United States and the Tripoli of Barbary, signed in 1796 (only 20 years after the Declaration of Independence), which stated:"As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion, as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquillity of Musselmen, and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries." [source]
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

Give me proof that Obama is a full green capitalist. Cause theres not an ounnce of capitalism in him.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

and where is your proof? I see words and no facts. If he was a socialist he would of not bailed out the Auto Makers and try to do all the things he is doing. Mexico has free health care, and Canada, and the UK and they are not even close to socialism. I belive the Conservatives in Canada introduced Universal Healthcare to there nation.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

Well, all of Obama's efforts to create a real revolution in green jobs in the USA should be proof enough that he is in favor of BOTH having the USA be more energy independent AND having U.S. companies make more money on green jobs (most of which cannot be outsourced).
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: Socialistic

Just so you know I don't COMPLETELY disagree with you on all of your points but feel compelled to chime in on some things."As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,..." ABSOLUTELY...but!!!There is a huge difference between "founded on the Christian Religion" and being founded on the PRINCIPLES of the Christian religion. Anyone who has spent any time reading the letters of the Founding Fathers can come to no other conclusion but that they absolutely had a great respect and admiration of Cristian principles, regardless of their own choice of religion, and believed that leaders of free men could not succeed with out them.Also, there is a great difference between the "separation OF church and state" and the "separation of church FROM state" The founding fathers believed that religion was a personal decision and that it was not up to the state to decided which if any religion should be adhered to. This is where the "separation OF church and state" come fromHowever they most certainly believed that those who felt called to "positions of honor" or that of the position of leadership of free people should have a great understanding of Judeo-Christian principles in order to lead properly and that there should not be a separation of church FROM state.
Debate: Obama and socialism
Side: non-Socialistic

"Also, there is a great difference between the 'separation OF church and state' and the 'separation of church FROM state'"Well, be that as it may, we have the former, not the latter in the USA...and a longstanding tradition of it that is directly supported by the Founders, period.