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Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

How do you know that the lower societal status is not due to crime?Ridiculous question.Are you suggesting that everyone of low societal status has committed a crime that has hindered their progression within society? Even if there was no crime in America there would still be people of low societal status. The white people of the Appalachian mountains are about as low on the socio-economic scale as you can get in the U.S. and they have nowhere near the crime rate.You're obviously clutching at straws here, it is pretty anecdotal to pull up a rural group with low socio-economic standing and claim that that supports your claim that 'black people will commit more crime than anyone else regardless of other factors like poverty/education/employment.' Crime in Appalachia is increasing faster than anywhere else in the US and the clearly defined correlation between poverty and crime that has been proven in urban areas may not be relevant in rural areas (http://www.ncjrs.gov/pdffiles1/nij/grants/189560.pdf) The fact that poor white people in Scotland commit far more crime than poor black people in London completely disproves your theory...move on and create your next debate with a racist, antisemitic or bigoted agenda.Your theory doesn't explain the black-on-white rape epidemic either.For starters it's not really a theory, it's pretty much accepted fact that poverty and the effects of low social status increase crime within society.Secondly I never said it did. If I drilled down into every point you made I'd be here all day, and frankly I think you're a lost cause. I don't know much about the demographics of sexual assault, but I would love to see you provide some evidence. Has it crossed your mind that maybe black males aren't specifically targeting white women but it has more to do with the opportunistic fact that 80% of potential victims are white.In fact, it sounds like a bullshit excuse.The fact that crime is higher within low socio-economic groups is not a "bullshit excuse". I'm not black and I don't really consider myself entirely politically correct so why would I be concocting these wild irrational 'excuses'. I just try to think analytically about things and to not let any agenda I may have cloud my judgement on topics...something you seem to struggle with.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

Are you suggesting that everyone of low societal status has committed a crime that has hindered their progression within society? Even if there was no crime in America there would still be people of low societal status .No. Of course not. I think people with low IQ's make up the lowest rung of the socio-economic ladder. Research has been proven this. Much of the low IQ population is black. People with low IQ's commit more crime. They are not dumb because they are poor, they are poor because they are dumb, that goes for all races. Immigrants who barely speak English come to America and create successful lives for themselves, despite all of the cultural barriers. They don't sit around making excuses and counting all of the reasons they can't succeed and pointing fingers at everyone but themselves and ask for hand-outs. The liberals are the black's worst enemy because they exacerbate the victim consciousness within the blacks and sap them of the will to succeed with their welfare programs. I listed some rape statistics below. I invited everyone to rip them apart yesterday. No one has challenged them yet.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

Uuurgh...it is painful trying to talk sense into you. No. Of course not. I think people with low IQ's make up the lowest rung of the socio-economic ladder.Well why didn't you say so earlier when you implied it was a result of crime?! It's funny how every justification and answer you have is in some way a slight at an ethnic minority. Is that just a coincidence?Research has been proven thisResearch..has...been..proven...this....What is your IQ?Do you not understand that IQ is related to education? Do you not understand that standard of education is linked to wealth? Do you not understand that crime is linked to poverty? Can you not comprehend that many of these things are interlinked and obviously a society that is still racist will make life hard for ethnic minorities to get out of that circle. Given enough generations the barrier will break down but there is still a culture whereby poor people cannot get a good education, which means they cannot get a good job, which means they are on the lower end of the socio-economic ladder, meaning their children are more likely to receive a poor education and they are more likely to commit crime. Is that too much for you or would you just prefer to think that "them dumb niggers are always robbin' an rapin"?I listed some rape statistics below. I invited everyone to rip them apart yesterday. No one has challenged them yet.The website you linked to is a 'White Nationalist Racial Library'...it offers an abundance of positive articles and references to Hitler and Nazism. With titles like "Enduring allure of Hitlerism" and "Demonizing Nationalism", I can see why it's your favourite.Correct me if I'm wrong but I think your website might have an agenda..?Go and find a reliable source.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

Look, dumbass, I don't care how much you educate a dumbass, it's still a dumbass. I don't care how much money you give a dumbass, he/she will soon be broke. If education was the determining factor of intelligence, then a person's IQ should rise throughout their lifetime. If education was as much a factor as you claim, we should all be f*cking Einsteins by the time we reach retirement age, you dumb son of a bitch. Crime and low IQ go hand in hand, creating the lower class. Every time I link to a website that is REFERENCED MATERIAL some shit-for-brains bastard says the website is biased. Well, no shit, Sherlock, but does that make the referenced material BIASED TOO? IT WAS WRITTEN BY A FUCKING JEW YOU STUPID ASSHOLE! It's referenced, that means you can check the facts.CreateDebate is populated with educated idiots...people with degrees but absolutely no common sense...just a bunch of spineless fools who've been completely brainwashed by liberal schmuck professors.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

Wow. You'll be embarrassed when you sober up and read that drivel.Look up the wikipedia page on 'Intelligence Quotient'. You talk about it so much I think you could do with knowing a bit about it. It takes certain things into account. One of them being 'age'.You link to a website that gives vague references from the 1980's. Stuff like, "The Department of Justice - Victimization in the US 1987"...No page number, no direct quote, no way of validating the information presented. If whatever your Nazi website is saying is true (which it may well be), I'm sure you could find something to validate it online that doesn't happen to be a White Power indoctrination site.dumbassdumb son of a bitchshit-for-brains bastardSTUPID ASSHOLE!educated idiotsFUCKING JEWspineless foolsliberal schmuck professorsAll good points...Is this your attempt at a rebuttal?I can just see you sitting alone smashing that out on the keyboard in your grand mansion (as you're so intelligent you must be super rich, but not as rich as those pesky evil Jews! - who by the way must be really intelligent if, as you say, they control everything and have the majority of the worlds cash?!)I've been on this website for about two weeks and so far you've said that Jews should be exterminated because they are clever, rich and powerful...while you say Blacks should be thrown out of America because they are too dumb and poor.Do you see how you've contradicted yourself...accept that you have an agenda and you're not thinking straight. You don't seem that stupid to me. You use the odd big word now and then. We would all think a lot more of you if you came clean now and started over.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

I never said anyone should be exterminated. I never said Blacks should be shipped back to Africa. You are lying. Show me the quote where I said those things. This is why I hate you faggots. You lie, twist and obfuscate to win the debates. You can't have a real debate here without someone pulling some bullshit tactic out of their little bag of tricks. If you guys are so righteous and so intelligent, why do you have to pull that shit? By the way, you asked my IQ earlier, it is 160, what is yours? I am so sure you'll give an honest answer...yep...lying faggot.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

I never said anyone should be exterminatedYou started a debate entitled 'Is there any justification for antisemitism?' In which you argued Jews deserve their persecution. You claimed the Jews were "milking the holocaust", describing the holocaust as a "wildly exaggerated" and "tired, old story". You then also added "DOWN WITH JUUIIIIIICCCEE".In another debate you stated that "Another holocaust is right around the corner". All this is not to mention repeatedly linking to Neo-Nazi websites with a white supremacist message as 'evidence'.I never said Blacks should be shipped back to Africa.You started this topic! You're the only one still arguing that the blacks are dumb criminals who are severely detrimental to life in America. In the debate "Blacks are animals" You argue in support of the statement by saying "Niggers do not want to sing Kumbaya with you, dickhead, they want to kill you"What are you implying should be done? I think we all know what you're getting at.You asked my IQ earlier, it is 160, what is yours?1 - I'm almost 100% certain it isn't.2 - It's really pathetic to state your IQ in some kind of attempt to garner some approbation online.3 - I don't even know my IQ. I don't feel inadequate enough to get involved in the self-absorbed, vain attempts at self aggrandisement.4 - Even if I did know my exact IQ, and let's say it would be higher than yours (which it would be). I still wouldn't tell what it is, because comparing IQ's online is the saddest form of dick-measuring I've ever heard of.While we're on the topic though, you said that IQ, wealth and power go hand in hand...please tell us about your amazing life! With an IQ of 160, you must have a great job and wealth that most of us can only dream of!
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

Out of all of the people on this site that I have "debated", you are by far the dumbest. You misconstrue everything I say and apparently are challenged at detecting sarcasm and have difficulty putting comments into proper context. I never said Blacks should be shipped back to Africa. You never asked what I thought the solution was, you only assumed. I would like to see Blacks provided with their own homeland, here in the U.S. I would like to see them run their own government and take care of their own affairs. I want to see them live their lives without the impediment of racism, which many claim is keeping them down. I am in agreement with Khalid Mohammed, an African American separatist who seeks a separate and sovereign government from whites. Every group of people have the right to self-determination. Black people are complaining about racism and discrimination from the whites, I say let's end it by separating. It would be mutually beneficial to do so. They won't have to put up with our racism and we won't have to put up with their animosity in the form of rape, muggings and murders. Let the Black man have a chance to stand on his own two legs, if he falls, he falls...if he stands, he stands. You chastise me for answering your question about my IQ? If you don't want answers, don't ask questions. Are you sure you want me to answer the question about my amazing life or do you just ask such questions so that you can attack the answers? I came to CreateDebate to talk about controversial issues. Instead of debates I have generated nothing but personal attacks. I quickly learned the people here are small-minded and vicious, with no real opinions of their own, just Politically Correct programming which they repeat like parrots. I have no respect for the boobs here and I will continue to shit on them until I am banned. They don't debate, they obfuscate. Fuck them and fuck you. It just gives me an excuse to blow off steam by acting like an asshole.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

Are you sure you want me to answer the question about my amazing lifeReally, I want to know.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

I was arrested in high school and went straight to jail/prison instead of college. I got an education about human nature there. I've always enjoyed the game of poker and I found upon my release that the game could be played in such a way as to generate a consistent profit. Since then I have won many tournaments and have appeared briefly in a televised tournament once which may have been aired in your country(I assume you are British). It is quite possible that you may have glimpsed me on your television. I am by no means the best, but I would make an educated guess that I am one of the top 200 best poker players on the planet. It affords me the lifestyle I desire. There's your answer, just remember, you asked.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

I was arrested in high school and went straight to jail/prison instead of college.That explains a lot.I am by no means the best, but I would make an educated guess that I am one of the top 200 best poker players on the planet. It affords me the lifestyle I desire. There's your answer, just remember, you asked.Part of your lifestyle includes concerted efforts to attack a teenager emotionally whom you cannot assault intellectually? I'd say you have way too much time.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

Oh, teenagers should have free reign to insult adults without repercussion? I bet you have some spoiled rotten children. I do not take crap off anyone, especially teenagers. EnigmaticMan is a bright teen who wishes to play an adult role, allow him to reap what he sows. He is indeed a bright young man, let him make his way, he doesn't need your parental hovering.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

Oh, teenagers should have free reign to insult adults without repercussion?It's just the internet.I bet you have some spoiled rotten children. I do not take crap off anyone, especially teenagers.Forums are Serious Business.EnigmaticMan is a bright teen who wishes to play an adult role, allow him to reap what he sows.I'll try to be as clear as possible. When you sew seeds of discord academically or intellectually, you must be punished academically or intellectually. When you sew seeds of discord using male posturing or physical bluffing, then that is how you must be retaliated against.Mixing these up suggests that you haven't the foggiest clue what you're doing.He is indeed a bright young man, let him make his way, he doesn't need your parental hovering.No he doesn't, I just like to argue with people who are easy targets sometimes. Call it junk food.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

What did you get jail for? How long did you serve?
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

I came to CreateDebate to talk about controversial issues. Instead of debates I have generated nothing but personal attacks. I quickly learned the people here are small-minded and vicious, with no real opinions of their own, just Politically Correct programming which they repeat like parrots. I have no respect for the boobs here and I will continue to shit on them until I am banned. They don't debate, they obfuscate. Fuck them and fuck you. It just gives me an excuse to blow off steam by acting like an asshole.You are projecting.If you really wished to have interesting debate, you wouldn't bring up such dead topics like racial segregation. You wouldn't use the old racist canards of pretending to be a friend of blacks when you just want them to be out of your sight.Your problem is that you are on a site with many progressives, and you are so thoroughly absorbed in hatred that you cannot see anything but conspiracies and enemies. I wasn't your enemy until you decided to resort to that lowest tactic of character assassination.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

No. Of course not. I think people with low IQ's make up the lowest rung of the socio-economic ladder. Research has been proven this. Much of the low IQ population is black. People with low IQ's commit more crime.There is no strong difference between race and IQ. What you are witnessing is a difference in populations. This is why Sub-Saharan Africans are over thirty points lower on the IQ tests than Ashkenazi Jews.Of course, if one wishes to take your argument at face value, then it would follow that the Ashkenazi Jews should form the upper crust of society, and all other races would be considered low-IQ. To take it even further, people like myself should reign over pompous people like yourself who form the lower base of society.Bringing IQ into the discussion of who has merit severely retards your position.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

Considering most violent crime in the U.S. is caused by blacks regardless of the fact that they are a minority, then statistically speaking, the only answer is yes.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

Considering most violent crime in the U.S. is caused by blacks regardless of the fact that they are a minority, then statistically speaking, the only answer is yes.According to the overview of the FBI Uniform Crime Report: Crime in the United States, 2009, "White individuals were more often arrested for violent crimes than individuals of any other race, accounting for 58.7 percent of those arrests."
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

You're looking at non-lethal violent crime. I was talking about lethal violent crime (I should have specified this) where blacks come in at 36.5% vs. 32.8% for whites. This accounted with the fact that blacks only make up about 13% of the U.S. population doesn't paint a very nice picture.Besides, when you breakdown non-lethal violent crime you see that blacks commit more robbery (56.7% vs 41.7%) whereas in rape and aggravated assault they only commit about a third of reported crime, though this is still shockingly high considering the size of the black demographic.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

You seem like you are smart enough to interpret statistics better than that. There are far more whites than blacks in America. Blacks are only 13% of the U.S. population. Go back and read those statistics with that in mind and you'll see that blacks are responsible for a largely disproportionate amount of crime.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

You seem like you are smart enough to interpret statistics better than that.The issue at the time of my response was not an issue of disproportionate criminality, but who committed most violent crimes. According to the statistics, my original response to ryuukyuzo's original post was correct. Blacks did/do not account for most violent crime. So your point, while taken, is immaterial to the original response I provided.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

The your argument would make no sense. How does showing that whites commit more crimes in general prove that America wouldn't be safer without the blacks?Sorry about the steal enlightened. Couldnt resist
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

How does showing that whites commit more crimes in general prove that America wouldn't be safer without the blacks?It doesn't. It wasn't meant to. It was a direct response to ryuukyuzo's assertion that Blacks committed most of the violent crime in the country. I simply showed a statistic that suggested otherwise.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

It doesn't matter what the overall population is if your goal is eliminating crime. Indeed he is correct. Eliminating white people according exactly to those stats, and interpreted completely accurately, would eliminate more crime. 58.7% of it in fact, according to those statistics.It seems then since your arguing with him about it, that your goal is not actually eliminating crime, but eliminating a group of people and justifying it however you can - in this case quoting crime rates.But it hardly matters as someone above pointed out. It's not about the color of one's skin. Humans act by and large according to their environment or socio-economic status. So long as a system is in place whereby a large group of people have access to less education opportunities, and indeed in many instances in the inner cities are encouraged to pursue crime above academic achievement, crime rates will stay aproximately the same no matter who you eliminate.
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

I have recently had an epiphany. You are absolutely correct about everything, David. Everyone is exactly the same. There are no differences whatsoever. There are no differences in cultures, DNA, IQ, sports performance, academic performance...everyone is the same...no one is unique. Humanity is just one big blob. All cultures are based on ignorance and superstition and therefore should be destroyed, RIGHT? Let's destroy all boundaries and borders and form a New World Order, anyone who resists should be crushed because they are ignorant for wanting to preserve their culture. Everyone must bow down to your Scientific Dictatorship, Dave. Isn't that your spectacular goal?
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: Yes, it would.

Dave, what do you suppose the average Native American's views are on multiculturalism? Do you think they should have embraced the idea of multicultural immigration?
Debate: Would America be a safer place without African Americans?
Side: No, it wouldn't.

Good point. Actualy I imagine Native Americans percentage wise viewed it the same as any other group percentage wise. There were many as yourself I'm sure, who take a tribal view and completely lacked foresite or sense of responsibility to humanity as a whole. Who view the world in black and white and have no knowledge of or interest in the complexities that really comprise human nature. I see no reason that would not be the case with this group of people as it has been with every other group of people in the history of the world.However, I have the sneaking suspicion you have been sorely misinformed, and taken that misinformation as a personal mantra, here as with seemingly the rest of your silly views.I'm curious to know precisely what point you are trying to make here, as I've not had the misfortune of being taught history via talk radio or wherever you get yours.