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Debate: Did Obama really say successful people didn't do it on their own?
Side: No, he had a different point

Successful business people didn't do it on their own, literally speaking. Figuratively speaking, maybe. Both sides waffle back and forth between literal and figurative interpretation to suit their own agendas. After reading and rereading Obama's comment, which I think was awkwardly worded leaving it open to misinterpretation, I determined that "...you didn't build that, somebody else made that happen" was referring to his previous statement about who built the roads etc. etc. To believe that he would really mean "If you've got a business you didn't build that, somebody else made that happen" is absurd, and a blatantly exploitative literal (out of context) interpretation. Sentences within a speech do not exist in a vacuum, either. The ability to connect thoughts that form a larger point is an essential skill in becoming a successful entrepreneur.
Debate: Did Obama really say successful people didn't do it on their own?
Side: No, he had a different point

I know this kind of flies in the face of the Western Cowboy mentality that we like to thump ourselves on the chest with in this country, but see the whole point of civilization is people working together. That's why your grandparents came out of the cave. And the point is NO ONE DOES IT ALL ON THEIR OWN. That's why live in societies. I know we all have our pride and shit and we like to think we do every all on our own, but we don't. Even if you start with nothing (and most successful people that I've known discount the fact their families help them get started) you still live in a town where there's infrastructure. There's roads for you to handle logistics and railways and planes. And yo live a town with a police force that keeps people from stealing your shit. And there's cell phone towers and phone lines. And there's banks where you can borrow money. And there's government programs to help the banks be able to lend to business. And there are laws to keep them from ripping you off. So, even if you're a self-starter, NO ONE DOES IT ALL ON THEIR OWN. If you can't accept that, see how well your business does in the Congo. In the meantime, we live in Societies, it has certain advantages.
Debate: Did Obama really say successful people didn't do it on their own?
Side: No, he had a different point

He did say that, but what he MEANT to say was that there is not a single person anywhere who has nobody to thank for anything. Your up-bringing? Your support? Your schooling? All come from somebody else who is dedicated to their job or their duty. Even then, they're only there because they got help along the way.I will gladly change my opinion if you can name JUST ONE person who has no-one to thank for their success.
Debate: Did Obama really say successful people didn't do it on their own?
Side: No, he had a different point

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Debate: Did Obama really say successful people didn't do it on their own?
Side: No, he had a different point

What he actually said:"If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen. The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet. The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service."
Debate: Did Obama really say successful people didn't do it on their own?
Side: No, he had a different point

Question - which pro-work person said these remarks:- we're not guaranteed success, but we're guaranteed the right to work hard for success.- at the heart of this country, its central idea is the idea that in this country, if you’re willing to work hard, if you’re willing to take responsibility, you can make it if you try.- her dad had MS, so he had to wake up an hour earlier than everybody else just to get to work because it took him that long to get dressed, and he could barely walk. But he never missed a day’s work -- because he took pride in the idea that, you know what, I’m going to earn my way and look after my family.- your kids can get a great education, and if they’re willing to work hard, then they can achieve things that you wouldn’t have even imagined achieving.- Our goal isn’t just to put people back to work -- although that’s priority number one -- it is to build an economy where that work pays off. An economy where everyone, whether you are starting a business or punching a clock, can see your hard work and responsibility rewarded.- I believe that when working people are doing well, the country does well.- I went to Washington to fight for working people who are trying to get into the middle class- I believe in American manufacturing. I believe in making stuff here in America.- when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together.Answer: Obama (in the exact same speech...)http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/07/13/remarks-president-campaign-event-roanoke-virginia
Debate: Did Obama really say successful people didn't do it on their own?
Side: No, he had a different point

He's saying that business owners couldn't do what they did without infrastructure and team work, which is the government's responsibility. It would be silly to say that you could have a business without roads, bridges, post offices, etc. He's not saying that you can't succeed without a bunch of help from other people, making successful people seem like manipulative people who just got lucky- he's saying that you need collaboration with others in order to be successful, which is true. My dad created a successful small business and he got help from others and collaborated with others (and is still collaborating with others). It's sort of like doing a Chem lab. Sure, you can get it done by yourself, but it will take a hell of a lot longer, you'll be unsure of your results, and will probably just get a B on it. Now if you're doing a Chem lab with two other people who are maybe more mathematically inclined and a bit more creative, you can get it done quicker, will be sure of your results because you were able to bounce your ideas off of each other (and maybe the one better at math did most of the conversions), and you'll get at least a 97 because each of you checked your answers individually and then compared them. Also, the excerpt up there doesn't even include the part where he says, "The point is, is that when we succeed, we succeed because of our individual initiative, but also because we do things together. There are some things, just like fighting fires, we don’t do on our own. I mean, imagine if everybody had their own fire service. That would be a hard way to organize fighting fires"So if everyone didn't actually watch the speech/ read the whole thing (I watched the video on youtube, because I was sure that people were taking it out of context), then a lot of this debate isn't very valid, because most of you don't have the full story.
Debate: Did Obama really say successful people didn't do it on their own?
Side: No, he had a different point

every person thinks their own way..according to me the statement is perspectively right..he said this according to his point of view..
Debate: Did Obama really say successful people didn't do it on their own?
Side: No, he had a different point

In its entirety, he isn’t saying literally that successful people didn't build there business. Its the juxtaposition of others that create a successful big business in addition to the great idea of one individual. In reality, it is the Romney equivalent of “I like to fire people”. The Democrats did chastise Romney for that mistake so I will not engage in the same affair. He meant to give credit to the middle class, saying that, like the country, it takes a universal effort to create a large success. If you entirely believe exxon mobil is the result of one man, you need to stop believing in Super Hero’s.
Debate: Did Obama really say successful people didn't do it on their own?
Side: No, he had a different point

I had yet to see a full transcript of his remarks, and this really helps clear the issue up for me. Obama's point was simple. If you are successful, you had help. Whether it was your mother, pushing you to get into a good college. A teacher who connected with you and made the subject fun. A friend, who lent you a sum of money and never asked for it back. You've had help. Perhaps his remarks were poorly phrased. One apparently shouldn't deny anything to anyone in politics -- you didn't do that. Yes, I did. But I had help from hundreds of people along the way. I didn't build it on my own, and I'm proud to admit that.
Debate: Did Obama really say successful people didn't do it on their own?
Side: No, he had a different point

He got caught in a soundbite where he talked about the infrastructure needed to even be able to have a business - the roads, ie. "you didn't build that." B
Debate: Did Obama really say successful people didn't do it on their own?
Side: No, he had a different point

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Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

Jackson should be on the $20 dollar because he did many great things to benefit the U.S.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

He did not benefit the US. He caused the US to go into a depression.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

He did what the people wanted. It wasn't entirely his fault that we went into a depression. The people wanted a National Bank so he made it happen.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

The people did not want the national bank so yeah I guess its not all his fault, but the only reason he actually vetoed it is because they had told him if he didn't he wouldn't win the next election.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

He did what he had to do to to benefit his people and he did, it just back fired.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

Jackson refused to recharter the National Bank, he didn't help them get it.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

The longest one in US History. This is for the 50 characters
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

Well, what's the job of the government? To do what the people want, or to do what they think is best for the people? It's a [representative] democracy, so the answer to that should be easy. Once the government thinks its job is to tell us what's best for us, we're effectively North Korea...
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

He was not because he ordered his workers to whip his slaves if they didn't do enough work which is wrong.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

That may be wrong from our stand point from this day in age, but you have to remember that that was the norm of his time. It's like when we were young we had webkins they were cool. Then it was cool to have fake feathers in our hair. In the 1800's it was cool to have slaves. It was the thing to have and he, being a man of authority had slaves. Him having slaves had no affect on his ability to be a great president.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

Okay, but even if that's right, what about how he reacting to the crisis, the acts, and the tariffs? His actions with the National Bank. All those things lead up to the reason why he's not the best president. His actions spoke louder than his words.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

As a president, you are representing your country. For a little bit, the norm of this country was to make fun of gay people, but did that make it morally right? Same applies to the Natives. Jackson was the man who gave birth to American Terrorism. America is commonly referred to as "the Mother of All Terrorism." This is because we do what we want when we want to do it, regardless of what others may believe. The Natives were most likely terrified and hated all American people after the Trail of Tears. We as a country have no consideration for others.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

basically every president before him had slaves just sayin' not saying its right though
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

Yes they had slaves, and probably traded them as well. But adding the indian 'problem' to his slave trading. made him seem like he has no heart. He made both groups lives miserable. And helped his white males in the north only.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

He also did many terrible things and handled things completely irrationally. For example, after the court ruled that native americans could stay where they were, he went on a removed them and made them walk long distances and a lot of them died.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

That also is something that is seen as wrong to us because we know the end result. He was trying to help his people and give them a home they could be proud of and the Natives, being the black sheep of their nation, were soiling the land they called home. Also how was he supposed to know that many of them would die? He didn't have a magic ball, he could see the future!
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

He went against the Supreme Court's ruling. That's not something you should do. And he didn't care what would happen to them, or else he wouldn't have made them walk hundreds of miles in winter.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

How else would they have gotten there? They had to walk there was no other way. Granted he could have waited for it to warm up but also remember most white people didn't see the Natives as people. Very few gave them the time of day. They were seen as cattle and treated as so, so they moved them like cattle.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

He wasn't trying to give them a home they could be proud of. They already had one, and were living on it peacefully until Jackson dismissed the court ruling and forced them to go somewhere else just because he wanted their land.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

Regardless of whether he meant for them to die on the journey to the promised land, he was still ordered not to follow through on this. The death of thousands of people could have been prevented if he would have done his job. There was land that was still untouched in the Louisiana Purchase that his people could have lived on and been proud of.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

I agree with Taylor, not only was it irrational, but it was illegal. When people break the law they are punished in some way, right? Jackson broke the law and he was rewarded by having his face put on a $20 bill. I don't think that he should be on there. He should have been punished.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

Jackson was not rewarded nor punished but he was respected, because he was persistent and people see that as a good quality in a leader.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

Jackson also did many things that harmed the U.S. more than helped. Jackson was not thinking of everyone when he made decisions. He was careless and power-hungry. His methods were violent and unnecessary.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

We love to talk about the many bad things he did, but what about the Good that he's done for the country? Did you know that Andrew Jackson fought for our country, and was respected amongst many? He was the president, there are going to be things he's done wrong, I mean he had the weight on his shoulders.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

He did more things that hurt the US than things that benefited them.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

Do you have examples because I think he did much more to benefit the US then hurt us.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

He did more things that would hurt the US rather than to benefit them
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

That's what you say but I see many great things he did for America. He got rid of national debt, gave his people more land for food and stood up for what they wanted in government. There may have been some bumps and bruises along the way but he still did his best. He tried and sometimes when you try you mess up but when he did he tried to fix it. When the tariffs were too high for the south he passed a new one that was lower. He did what he thought was best as president.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

Jackson actually got rid of the national debt, which no other president did!
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

It was only for a period of time though. It's not like he got completely rid of it
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

But he tried. How many other presidents have worked that hard to get rid of the National debt and succeeded? He did everything he could to get rid of it. It got messed up after that and that's not his fault. Time has gone on and some presidents work to get rid of the national debt and others don't but it's not the presidents that tried fault because at least they tried. Jackson tried and succeeded.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

No one can ever completely get rid of debt because the government always has to play for certain things. He came closer than any other president to getting rid of the debt.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

even if it was for only a short amount of time at least he proved it could be done and he worked hard until it was done
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

He did a lot more than some presidents can say. A period of time you say, but that's longer than some. One cannot simply point out the bad he's done, without siding it with the good.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

The debt came back and is bigger than ever. His decisions that made the debt go away, later caused massive downfalls, which caused even more debt.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

Getting rid of National Debt is close to impossible. Jackson lessened the debt a bit until the end up his presidency, and the debt came back in full force causing the nation to go into depression
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

If it was at the end of his presidency that the debt went up then how is that his fault? He did what he could for the time being and yes, the debt is almost impossible to get rid of which is why its amazing that he was able to get rid of it for the short amount of time that he had.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

Jackson should be on the $20 dollar bill, due to the dedication he put into the country. He did everything he could, to support the country, even if it meant some suffered, he made sure the majority did not.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

He made so many suffer including the native americans. Looking at all that he did, he didn't care about who he was hurting.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

How can you say the President was not thinking about everyone else, when he was trying to support the country? Many suffered, however Jackson worked hard to ensure that not Everyone suffered. Im not saying that his way of handling things were the best, and his views on indians were not justified, however he did support the country, and tried his best to do what was right. You make him sound like a dictator
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

Andrew Jackson was a very strong man. He did everything he needed to and didn't worry about what people had to say about it. He knew that what he was doing was best for the country.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

Jackson should be on the $20 bill because he was a war hero who people can look up to and he even stopped national debt at one point in time. He was very relatable.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

He was relatable before he went through with the indian removal act. Now that we know all that he did, he is no longer relatable unless you agree with killing lots of people and forcing them to walk through horrible weather. He was a great war hero because he was violent and ruthless and these were not good qualities as a president.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

No he was relatable because he did good things for our country and showed interest in the people . He put the Indians out because he felt it was good for our country. A part of being a good president is being able to make hard decisions.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

Not everyone supported the indian removal act though. This made us look bad as a nation. It did not help everyone. In my eyes this was not good or moral.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

People would probably do the same today to immigrants just because it will help us as a country.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

When you become a president, part of your job is to represent the country. Putting the Native Americans out and the fact that so many of them died did not make the U.S. look good. He did not even have the right to remove them, so it was illegal.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

Although the Indian Removal Act was not exactly ethical, you cannot say that Jackson knew that thousands would die. And it was wrong that he went against the courts to abide by his own wishes, however he only did what he thought was best for the country. The Indians being removed and placed into a different area, may have been what was best for the country at the time. The end results were indeed tragic, and I sympathize, but Jackson saw that it had to be done..so it had to be done.
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: No

He was a war hero yet he didnt care about slaves lives when he traded them to other people. He didnt care about the lives of indians when he forced them to move. I do not want to look up to a man who put civilian lives on the line just for the good of himself
Debate: Does Andrew Jackson deserve to be on the $20 bill?
Side: Yes

Good of himself? Or good of the country? We needed the land. Hard decisions had to be made. Also slaves, well no one viewed blacks as equal. This definitely wasn't right but that was the way they thought... everyone pretty much. So still he was representing the people.