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Debate: Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign countries: Bad or Good?
Side: Good

I believe outsourcing jobs is one the worst thing that has been done to the American economy. People say if it wasn't for outsourcing the prices for products would be higher. It is not just employment that is outsourced as Americans we loose what use to be our heritage. It is the thing that people from other countries risk their lives to get and when asked why they come here for it is the number one reason. They come here for the "American Dream". When we outsource jobs we are outsourcing the American Dream. When jobs are lost to other countries so is the tax dollars that would go with every job is outsourced. Instead of good paying jobs that were available people are willing to work at Walmart. A store that is so shameful they changed their name from Wal-mart to Walmart. A company that not only outsources jobs they teach all new employees how apply for welfare, Food Stamps, health care and anything else you can get for free. The American Dream has been outsourced and exchanged for the worse nightmare since the great depression, when the next great depression comes around again who will fight for what is left of America. When everything is destroyed by jobs going out and Illegal immigrants coming in. When there is nothing left to scrap over the illegal immigrants who will just find another country that will become their new American dream whatever the country is. Maybe we should find a brand new country that nobody wants and start over. People need to learn to fight for what is best for our country instead we are willing to sell it off piece by piece till their is nothing left to pass on to our children, nothing that is worse passing on. If it was a medical exam this country would be found lacking any health and the only thing left for our children to fight for since our country is so ill from lack of care. The country is terminal because Her bones have been broken and left for the vultures to lick clean. So many Americans have lost the work ethic that made this country what it used to be. The only thing that will bring it back is for Americans to fight for what is ours. We are just willing to go belly up. I am proud of my country, I am proud of the the few people who are willing to stand up and fight for what is right.Let us bring back the jobs that proud Americans would love to work for because they love their country and they love their family. Their is no substitution left.
Debate: Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign countries: Bad or Good?
Side: Bad

Hi folks, I've seen a lot of interesting and some not so interesting points raised here and, to be honest, I've only started thinking about this issue lately and am deciding whether or not it's something I should contact my M.P ( U.K. member of parliament) about.I've spoken to quite a few businesses who claim that they simply cannot afford to hire "local" staff...One such man said this in defense of his hiring a network engineer from the Phillipines.However, this led me to consider this point: If a business can no longer afford to pay local wages to continue operating then, by the laws of capitalism, shouldn't it go bankrupt. It can no longer compete. To me, it seemed, that this business owner was happily exploited a cheaper labour market to line his own pockets. Now, there's nothing illegal about that but what's struck me is that an awful lot of folks want the "I'm a nice guy" feeling whilst doing this. I thought..well, not so nice really but, as mentioned earlier, it's not illegal so line your pocket and move on.Another local example is a UK computer accessories company called PC World which has a large office in the Czech Rep. Recently, that office has expanded to add another 300 staff. Meanwhile unemployment in the UK is rising to record levels. I wonder what the ethics of this is? The Czechs do a great job, no doubt, and are every bit as capable as their (dwindling) UK counterparts but..this is a UK company whose customers are UK citizens so shouldn't it really employ UK people? I don't expect companies to be ethical, but isn't that what are governments are supposed to ensure, on our behalf. Let's face it, most of these companies CEOs would probably sell their own grandmother for a better dividend (joke, btw, in case anyone gets their panties in a twist - but you get the idea)Anyway, that's my penny's worth and we do have bi-elections coming up so I will be asking those canvassers who call at my door about it. To me it seems that outsourcing really benefits middle/senior management but no one else. Do you think that companies who outsource should be made to pay an import duty or higher tax? Isn't it damaging to ourselves and our children if they have to take a huge cut in wages for their jobs (we all know that the price of living in the UK and more than likely the US is rising all the time)As I said, I'm no economist - actually just sharing some passing thoughts whilst sipping my lovely imported Italian coffee ;) Anyone got anything to share?
Debate: Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign countries: Bad or Good?
Side: Bad

i completely agree that companies who outsource should have to pay higher taxes, it only makes sense. I mean that's the whole reason tariffs were created, to protect the home country's economy, and it should stay that way.
Debate: Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign countries: Bad or Good?
Side: Bad

Warren Buffett bragged in an interview about 9 years ago that he shifted the making of furniture from NC to China. He has been held up as a hero, but he has cost more American jobs than any other single person! He should be held accountable. He has made money, Billions, by closing US manufacturing.
Debate: Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign countries: Bad or Good?
Side: Bad

Honestly, noone has mentioned that America is now completely dependant on other countries and that if say...China went down, our economy would crash to the point of no return because the United States has ceased to be a mercantilistic country. What America needs is to create reasonable wages for workers and pricing on products made in OUR country and bring back tariffs that make what America sells more reasonable for Americans to buy. Doing this, bringing work back to our nation would bring us out from under the thumb of foreign countries, and back to being the greatest nation on earth. In the 18 and 1900's America went with a mercantilistic economy, and we were home to some of the wealthiest men ever. While that time period may have been basically corrupt with monopolies, and awful for the lower classes, we now have the laws to stop monopolies and unfair working conditions, so that those systems can work properly and for the well being of America as a whole. If business came back to America we could stop outsourcing and start exporting, which is exactly what America needs to do.
Debate: Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign countries: Bad or Good?
Side: Bad

It's terrible. These companies won't be getting american customers if americans don't have income. And with the disgraceful salaries these indians are getting for american work, they won't even be able to afford the american goods in return. America is doomed.
Debate: Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign countries: Bad or Good?
Side: Bad

Outsourcing is a bad thing - it is killing our nation! Its not only a few companies outsourcing right now. It is a lot of companies. Our Hospitals, Banks, Insurance companies, and phone/cellular companies are all outsourcing work to India... this is taking away millions of jobs from Americans.I work for a company that keeps outsourcing their work to India. More and more jobs lost within the last few years. In the department I was in- all at one time 78 people in one shot gone, I was Lucky to find another position... but soon I feel they will find a way to outsource my job too - because that seems to be the direction of the company. When talking to our Senior leaders they are so proud that the bonus they're getting is so much more than it was before... when we hear this we cringe because we don't even see a bonus from the company and they get nice fat paychecks compared to ours... Its all about greed.We wonder why America is so dependent on the government for assistance... well they can't find jobs unless they have a masters degree... and of course that takes money and no guarantee they will even find a job... unless they want to work at Walmart or the local IGA and make minimum wage... and still need assistance because they can't feed their children or afford Medical Care.Good paying Jobs in America are going away... and its from people thinking its okay (You know the people like the ones voting "Good"). Our nation has to open their eyes. The people of our Country would not be so dependent on Government funded programs if our government slowed down the outsourcing to other countries. I know they can't stop it, but they can regulate it by limiting the percentage of the work that gets outsourced. Instead of us looking down on all the people on some kind of Federal or State assistance - since not all of them are taking advantage of it - We should be finding a way to get the jobs in our country back, so these people can go back to work! Stop pointing fingers at John Doe and point to our Elected officials for not even attempting to fix this problem so our Country can get back to work - with jobs that can pay the bills...
Debate: Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign countries: Bad or Good?
Side: Bad

I have filed a petition with the White House to:"Bring back US jobs that companies have been allowed to outsource to foreign countries"This is a violation of Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 It shall be an unlawful employment practice for an employer -(1) ...to discharge any individual, or...discriminate... with respect to his compensation, terms, conditions...of employment, because of such individual's race...or national originIn other words, companies cannot fire US workers and hire foreigners in other countries instead, for any reasonPlease show your support and sign the petition:http://wh.gov/pFPYPlease pass this on to as many friends, family, & coworkers as you can, if we can reach 100,000 signatures by March 10th, the White House must respond to the petition.
Debate: Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign countries: Bad or Good?
Side: Bad

Outsourcing hurts the American economy. The main issue with outsourcing to a foreign country is the loss of jobs. Hundreds or even thousands of American jobs are lost at once when a company relocates its headquarters to another country. The largest incentive for companies to outsource to foreign countries is the increase in profits recieved. Not only are labor and production costs lower, but the consumer market expands to include the other country as well. Those in favor of outsourcing claim that the lowered costs for companies leads to a drop in price for consumers, but this is not always the case. The original reason for outsourcing was to maximize profit, therefore if a company lowers prices they shrink the amount of increased profit received from outsourcing. Another issue is the fact that production is not as strict in foreign countries causing a decrease in quality. Outsourcing causes a massive loss of American jobs and a decrease in quality of goods, all for a chance at lower prices.
Debate: Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign countries: Bad or Good?
Side: Bad

Greed Greed and more Greed !!! First of all most products made in china are not quality products ... In my opinion I would rather pay more for a better product that will last a few more years .. You might as well take out the word "QUALITY" RIGHT OUT OF THE DICTIONARY .. Guys something has got to be done about where our world is headed and don't rely on your government !! We need more people like Jesse Ventura that has a back bone and tells it the way it is. Go Jesse Go !!
Debate: Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign countries: Bad or Good?
Side: Bad

In the short term for some companies it may be good. However, in the long term it's a poor solution that ultimately drives customers away. I have been affiliated with organizations that did a lot of outsourcing to everywhere from India to Ireland. Even outsourcing to companies in the US. The problem with outsourcing isn't that it's always bad, but companies want to make it a windfall in savings for the organization. In reality, unless you have a process that is stagnant and rarely changes, it just doesn't work. (Vendors don't understand what to do when the scenario isn't in their check list. More than 1 company has done this to me personally. HP, Amazon, Citi, are a few) The other misconception is that because it's outsourced the organization doesn't need to provide oversight. After all, "that's their job" More than 1 major company found out that is so extraordinarily wrong. (think of 2 brothers and mom tells #1 to take out the garbage, he talks #2 into doing it for $1. #2 says he'll do it and goes outside. the next evening #1 is in trouble because #2 didn't take out the garbage and #2 has already spent the $ on lollypops.). So, actually the organization who outsources must provide more, not less oversight, and many times covertly to ensure no manipulation of results is occurring by the vendor. (Oh yes, we processed all those requests. Unannounced site visit resulted in discovering vendor was 4 months behind.) Oversight is not just the process you are outsourcing, but the vendor's IT, hiring practices, etc. Since any of these are vulnerabilities into potential avenues to your, it infrastructure (hint Target Stores data breach), business practices, trade secrets, etc. Where onshore outsourcing is ok is it provides experience to individuals who need an avenue into a career that normally requires experience to get hired, but the experience is limited. Or for students who need a summer job between classes. Or the mother who's children have grown-up and moved away looking for something to occupy a few hours a day. Offshore outsourcing, is just a way for an org to try to stay profitable, and it may be good for foreign economies, but in the long run it slowly damages ours by moving the higher salaried jobs to countries where they don't need to pay as much. (and the resulting product is many times inferior in design & result) For foreign environments it is a disaster because the foreign governments aren't prepared for the waste and pollution resulting from new outsourced industries (and the vendors themselves are driven by greed or need) and don't manage wastes as they should. Taxes should be charged the same for organizations, the idea that a organization can have less of a tax burden by outsourcing is a issue that congress needs to resolve. We need progress in this. (oh sorry, pro vs con. The opposite of progress is congress.) Trickle down economics? Funny, that was 80's bunk.
Debate: Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign countries: Bad or Good?
Side: Bad

Such a gesture is a slap in the face to the American employees.
Debate: Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign countries: Bad or Good?
Side: Bad

how much more of this reganomics is it going to take for ppl to wake the hell up.... .we are in a headlong race to the bottom and we are being PUSHED by capitalist pro-corporate (profit) conservatives who still don't think before they VOTE.
Debate: Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign countries: Bad or Good?
Side: Bad

Outsourcing is the most horrific thing to ever even been thought of. Who ever thought of this is the biggest joke in the world and does not deserve to live nor did they. If they thought this was an okay thing, they must of had the worst childhood to ever be imagined.
Debate: Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign countries: Bad or Good?
Side: Bad

Many Americans are pissed off with the outsourcing process that’s going on for the last couple of decades. The companies that are outsourcing the jobs of American youths are in a way playing with millions of lives. It not just includes that youths who were losing out their bread and butter but the family associated with them. A saying goes: an idle mind is a devil’s workshop. The unemployed youths of America are resorting to drugs and many other anti-social activities in absence of job. Many a lives are wasted that could have been saved from obscurity and disorientation had they been provided with a suitable job.I’ve been looking for a way to mitigate these problems to see if I can manage the potential ‘cons’ mentioned in your article; the primary challenge I’m facing is trying to navigate the many hundreds of global call center options efficiently. I’ve come across outsource-consultants.com as a possible brokerage option to connect me with an inbound call center that would fit the needs of my business – are you familiar with them? The American call centers would be far more efficient and effective in handling the jobs. The ease of doing business with a company here is worth of the higher cost than the shitty and cheap call centers in India or China.
Debate: Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign countries: Bad or Good?
Side: Bad

I have read all the comments and I have to say I'm rather impressed. When outsourcing first came into play within the US Economy, American citizens were uneducated with respect to economics, followed by all the intricate details as to how this would effect them from a Micro to Macro standpoint as well as from a supply and demand standpoint. To be honest, Americans were never fully educated as to what outsourcing would do to the economy along with the ramifications. Americans, like Canadians, and like citizens of Latin America are all consumers with only one thing in common, "UNCHECKED SPENDING LIMITS IN THE FORM OF PLASTIC WITH MASTER CARD VISA LOGO." Needless to say Washington (US Politicians) along with Canadian and Latin American Officials were very much aware of those ramifications along with certain trading partners who were all for it. In 2 papers that I will share with each and every last one of you, I will show both the Pros and the Cons of outsourcing along with the grey, and where all arguments can be backed up on both sides.Here are the links to the papers...https://www.academia.edu/27027299/THERISKOFOUTSOURCINGANDTHEWAYSTOMITIGATEIThttps://www.academia.edu/18684331/TheRiseoftheMultinationalEmpiresoftheUnitedStates
Debate: Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign countries: Bad or Good?
Side: Bad

While there are many positives and negatives that accompany outsourcing, this matter is mainly negative. Some people support outsourcing because global competition would drive down prices for consumers. In addition, if Americans are able to get goods from a variety of places they will be able to have a better array of choices. For example, some people like to get their coffee beans specifically from Brazil (developing country) because of its flavor and the way of cultivation. For this reason, the U.S. purchases the beans from Brazil because we do not have the resources to do as well here. There are also people who believe that outsourcing is bad because outsourcing contributes to an increase in unemployment in the United States. One example of the loss of jobs was when Whirlpool shutdown its factory in Indiana in 2010 and moved its refrigerator assembly operation to Mexico (developing country). This resulted in the loss of 1,200 local jobs. Chile (a developed country) is becoming an important outsourcing nation, with a sourcing workforce of more than 20,000. More than twenty percent of its exports go to the U.S. While the U.S. is receiving cheaper goods from Chile, this workforce should consist of Americans. The largest barriers in regards to outsourcing are the language and cultural disagreements. In all, outsourcing would hinder the U.S. economy because it would increase the unemployment in the United States.With more of the population unemployed, these individuals would be less likely to contribute in the marketplace.
Debate: Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign countries: Bad or Good?
Side: Bad

Usually, outsourcing is a good thing, but government regulations have made it much harder to gain profits. The only solution was to outsource which should never have happened to the degree it has.We outsourced out of government imposed necessity, not by natural market forces.
Debate: Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign countries: Bad or Good?
Side: Bad

I totally Agree with you on this. However to an extent, the idea of outsourcing looked good on paper but was never fully understood by those that the government was seeking support from.
Debate: Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign countries: Bad or Good?
Side: Bad

Who cares about the world economy, all that matters is the USA. If we are not strong nothing else matters. All other counties can die.
Debate: Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign countries: Bad or Good?
Side: Bad

Wow, that's a horrible thing to say. The USA isn't all that matters. If all the world economies start failing do you think we are not going down also? Everyones economy is important. You should take a trip overseas sometime and visit other countries. It's just as amazing there as it is here. They probably protect their jobs a bit more than the US. But back to the issue on hand, I hate that we are outsourcing jobs. It hurts us. I know. I was one of the ones that got blindsided in a meeting with no warning whatsoever. I did medical coding and that's scary since those jobs are now also going overseas (transcription jobs have been outsourced for awhile already). So the next time you walk into an ER ask where your medical record is going. It may just be overseas. Not only did it affect me, but my hairdresser lost a client, my dentist lost a patient, my doctor also lost a patient along with the pharmacy losing a customer since I now can't fill my prescriptions. I'm not shopping for anything that I don't absolutely need (food or otherwise). It's humbling when you have to go to a food bank for something to eat. I do go to farmer's markets when I can for healthy food and to support local farmers. But we as consumers can stop a lot of it and bring back some of the jobs by refusing to buy outsourced products. Look at the label and see where it's from. If we can't afford something made here vs made overseas, then save up for it till you can. Maybe we can save some jobs and bring others back. Not all outsourcing will stop, but we can have an impact on it by what we buy and demand. As for me, I am having to go back to school to learn something that can be done "hands on" and not outsourced.
Debate: Outsourcing of US jobs to foreign countries: Bad or Good?
Side: Good

Hello sir. Although I will support your first Amendment Right with regards to Freedom of Speech, I can't support your view on not giving equal consideration to our trading partners. The reason.. they have as much right as we do with respect to Globalization. Consider what I say as if it were the “Domino Effect”. For example, let’s say out of a stack of dominos there are only 4, Japan, China, Mexico and the US. All three of these countries are not just our trading partners but are allies as well. If one of those trading partners that we as a trading nation is bullied or harmed in anyway then we, not just as a country with regards to our own economic sovereignty, but as a trading partner, including the other 2 out of those three will be affected because each one of use shares what I call a symbiont relationship to one another. In other words, we are all interlinked. Not only this, but do to the advancements of technology and science we all need to be on the same page. I will never say that outsourcing is a good thing due to the theft of core competencies with respect to patents, but what I will say is that it’s not a bad thing for some of our multinationals. In time and with respect to the cost of natural resources and the global food supply along with making money, it is sad to say that we as a trading nation need one another. Therefore, until a viable solution is figured out, we must continue the practice as is. However, according to a recent stance that I just supported with respect to the reliance of fossil fuels and oil dependents, I’m totally against. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/nasscom-paints-gloomy-picture-sector-788-exporters-probed-banerjee