azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

I too, am a Christian and we should doubt most doctrine and things man made. The early church and church today has done much to harm its own image and the concept of a Triune God is a difficult one. The teachings of Jesus are important regardless of a belief in a divinity and are a "best practices" manual. The mission is God passionately seeking a relationship with his children, the church exist because of "missio dei" God's mission. God's existence is not found in a church, it is found in a relationship with the Lord, a relationship that I am sure of and I treasure. Agnostics and atheists would argue that I am dilusional, unless they invite Jesus in to their own hearts they will never know.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

Hello Shorty,I was pondering on some of your points in regards to the following:1. "The early church and church today has done much to harm its own image and  the concept of a Triune God is a difficult one"2. "The teachings of Jesus are important regardless of a belief in a divinity and  are a "best practices" manual"My questions for you are the following: 1. Are you equating those who are faithfully to the Lord Jesus Christ along  with  those who were causing harm? Granted, that there were some in the early  church that were trying to spread Gnosticism, Arianism, etc. among other heresies. However, there were the faithful who were upholding and  championing the apostolic tradition. If you were generalizing, than is a  common logical fallacy. When you are using the term "Early Christian" you  are referring from the first century to early fourth century. Can you be more  specific? Note: Definitely, the doctrine of Trinity is one that the human mind struggles to comprehend. Nevertheless, it is a biblical doctrine. 2. Can you explain? Is it a suggestion that it is of no importance regarding  Jesus' self-understanding of His Deity and His claims to Deity? Because as  Christians, it is very important. Please understand, it is a question because  I want to understand your statement.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

So what you are saying is that Jesus says so himself that he is the son of man ,not some gobbledygook ethereal(?) being.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

DECAY?hmm while you cut and paste from your bible in order to justify your belief(blasphemy in itself), i am sorry but my head has not begun to spin, nor am i spewing up green slime or calling "god" or Jesus(the dude), profanities,so im sorry if i offend you, but your attempt of exocism has not worked.....have a nice life Flame :)
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

Hello Dacey,There is a major differance between what you want to believe versus what Jesus claimed. I am justifying not simply what I want to believe, but what is based on eyewitness account which is a primary source in knowing what Jesus said and did. "Blasphemy"? Actually, going against reason and truth is what to many easily do. Faith and sight oppose each other, but not faith and reason. To dismiss Jesus as just another "good teacher" is against reason and truth. It's either He is lying or telling the truth. There are really three options: Liar, Lunatic, or Lord. In the words of C.S Lewis:"He would either be a lunatic--on a level with the man who says he is a poached egg--or else he would be the devil of hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse., You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with patronising nonesense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to s. He di not intend to"
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

How dare you tell me i must make an A/B choice on my position with Jesus/just because i dont paticipate in that old game of "chinese whispers" does not give you any right whatsoever, EVER, to dictate what i personally believe about JESUS,my relationship with that beautiful human being is none of your business.. now why dont you go venture into my debate about self-reflection.....................:(
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

"How dare you tell me i must make an A/B choice on my position with Jesus/just because i dont paticipate in that old game of "chinese whispers" does not give you any right whatsoever,"First of all, this is a debate where people are open-minded to other possibilities, even when they are holding strong to their beliefs, to be at least open-minded to other possibilities rather than just challenge them and than get upset when they are being challenged themselves. Because we do not have all the answers right?Secondly, I do not throw rocks when I debate. If I do not know the answers I'll admit and research into it. I do not pretend I know the answers when I do not. But, when debating, I am challenging statements, not just simply "belief" and cross-examine those statements to see if it matches up with reality. Because you may be right, but probably wrong.Third, If it is none of my business, neither is it yours with my relationship with Him either. You challenged me first.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

btw-logical thinking would allow for me to believe that hallucigens such as various plants and human nature etc existed in such un-advanced times as back then.btw I have had an amazing time with Jesus.Also witnessed by quite a handful of people in the woywoy region of the central coast of Australia(yeh fancy that hey), my actual account with an angelic appearrance. Actual people witnessed this take place,I was sitting at a "popular" "friends" house, which was open to All mankind,on this paticular day IT WAS RAINING quite a lot of the regular hangers were there.I myself, was just a random drop in however on every occassion that i would visit there it would be a happy friendly enviroment to be.everyone would be getting along and having a pleasant time.But on this day i was shocked to find everybody was amid dispute,it broke my heart and (shock)silenced me.For once in my life i could not speak.AT that moment the rain stopped, and a Rainbow appeared,it made me smile and i went into the laneway to take a better photo to add to my "wallpapers"...what happenened next befelled that same silence amongst all that witnessed it.................IN this picture There was no color, in the obvious bands of the rainbow that i took BUT there was however a most beatiful angelic/god like appearrance formed from cloud which,to look at, could not be seen in the sky due to the over cast conditons that day.it was so amazing how clear the features showed up on the picture tho.The image appeared in the middle of the rainbow,it was in robe,its halo atop,and was indeed an image of a man with a long beard.And people witnessed me take that photo themselves....however you can dispute MY personal account on my experience with religion/Jesus or you can go to woy woy nsw Australia ,while you are there why dont you beat around the bush and see if you can find some of those people who witnessed it.,i was so keen to share this amazing sight and was quickly back to my chatty self.... if you want to see the pic go and find K. tempest, he may still have it somewhere, since he denied and kept the return of my things.Other than that, you can make what you like out of what i am saying to be a fact.Either way i still do not have to justify my personal experience with Jesus to you.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

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Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

Hello Dacy,Sorry, it was a typo. Hope you have a nice life as well.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

God resisteth the proud,but giveth grace to the humble-James iv. 6.------;)
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

Christ also declared himself the morning star- I.e. Lucifer.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: YES

Wow that must have been the largest answer I have seen to a question. Good job though.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

There is historical evidence that supports the existence of Jesus Christ. The only thing that can't be proven is whether or not he was divine. That all depends on faith.http://www.allaboutarchaeology.org/evidence-for-jesus.htm
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

That site is almost completely worthless and devoid of any archeological evidence for the existence of Jesus--much less evidence at all. I can find just as much evidence that The Queen of Cards existed in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

Ever heard of the Shroud of Turin or the Dead Sea Scrolls. There is an entire vault of ancient artifacts.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

Ever heard of the Shroud of Turin or the Dead Sea Scrolls.Yep. How is the Shroud of Turin evidence of the existence of a divine avatar, and not just a picture of some dudes face that by all reason is probably just a fabrication (that has been recently duplicated)? And what of the Dead Sea Scrolls? Do you even know what they are?There is an entire vault of ancient artifacts.There's also artifacts relating to Gilgamesh, it doesn't mean that there was a Mesopotamian ruler who fought divine bulls, had a best friend named Enkidu that was slain by the gods, and whose story led to a global flood in which he had to save pairs of animals on an ark.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

facepalm You don't know what the dead sea scrolls are do you? Or you have been severely misinformed...
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

The dead sea scrolls make no mention of jesus and the shroud was dated to I beleive the 13th century by indepedent tests
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No body knows

The only Jesus Christ that exist is the one that we create in our minds. That is why one of the reasons that there are so many religions because they are all confused. While getting fealty rich and the poor gets poorer
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

The bible says;(1st John 4:2-3)2This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

Are you stuuupidd????That means about 4.5billion people on this planet is from the antichrist. Way to go all powerful Christian God...
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

but now i am confused. because you are saying that because i belieave that jesus did exist in the flesh that i am a spirit of god.but i dont belaive that "god" exists, so where does that put me?
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

to tell me that i cant believe in jesus without believing in "god" tells me i should not believe in the existence of mankind. i can not see "god" yet i can see man in the flesh.so knowing the existence of mankind to be fact why should one doubt the existence of another human being.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

Ah, and what does the bible say about those bearing false witness? The truth is, you only have that book written by men to back you up. I'll see you in hell.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

I support you alllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll the way!! :)
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

real person.very good talker.we have evidence for him being hisoriclly exist, and i saying this as an israeli living in "jesus`s holyland".he was born jewish,and died jewish.he saw his followers as a cult within judiasm, jewis-christans.the stories about himbeing divine and the son of god are propaganda made for more people to join this new religion filled with paganism, for, you know it, making it easier for more people to join.the seperation of christianity from judiasm would probably turn him over in his grave, which is already found, together with his family.real person?yes, and a very good talker and leader.divine\son of god\prophet? no.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

tho i believe he was NOT the "son" of some kind of "god" i do believe that ONCE a really cool dude named Jesus did exist. He was just a really nice soul with an open mind and universal love.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

Jesus is real person. He is always besides us, and He protects us from minor things, but cannot protect us from physical things. Heaven is real, but it is not on Earth, created by God. thank you. (actualy, what's really funny about this debate is that i am saying no AND yes. What's also funny is that i also debate about it with my friends. I seem to hear people talk about it wherever i go. strange.odd.)
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

I belive in him because.................. if he was not on earth we would all be dead.People belive that Jesus was god that came back as Jesus.People that dont think that hes not real,but I belive in Jesus people who dont think hes real doesnt know what it is like to be loved by him.So when they dont belive in him dont get loved by him and the more they dont get loved by him the more they dont belive in him.Every one should belive in him because he is our lord the is our savyor.He will love us no matter what,and the people who doesnt belive in him will not be loved by him!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

people who dont think hes real doesnt know what it is like to be loved by him.Doesn't Jesus love everyone? I thought that was kind of his thing.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

There is proof that Jesus exists in historical texts other than the bible -- Whenever we date a paper, we pay homage to Christainity with Before Christ and Ano Domini (I know it's spelled wrong)
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

... except they didn't start using AD and BC until around 500 years after this god decided to immaculately impregnate a magically holy virgin for the purpose of a human sacrifice some 30 years down the line...and that it was the Catholic church that decided we should begin calling it AD and BC...But sure, I suppose that's as good a justification for insanity as any other.btw, who's we? Only Christians do that, and all scientific and non-denominational papers are dated Common Era or Before Common Era (CE, BCE)
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

Indeed, there are historical documents outside of the New Testament documents. Some are Jewish sources and Roman as well.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

Where? And was it Jesus Christos or Julius Caesar? What books could you site some other "proofs?" I think most anthropologists, archaeologists, historians and even theologans would love your insight.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

It is commonly known that there was said person. He wasn't about to save humanity, but at least he tried.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

I DO BELIEVE JESUS did EXIST and was a REAL PERSON I ALSO BELIEVE NOBODY has the right, to SPEAK FOR THE DEAD. But,b b but You say," they say, he say, what they, said he said" are so many accounts YES according to yourself and the like . im just hoping the truth be revealed and we humbly face the mysteries that yet remain concealed.Then oh what joy ,to know the truth .but til i see for myself ..the proof of proof of the truth.til then i wll not preach i will not boast the written word of another host. FOR shallow is man ,on there own head, to try to talk for the dead.DACEY NOV 2009.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

How is ANYONE WHO IS ABLE TO TYPE AN ARGUMENT AT THIS TIME credible for saying whether they 'believe' Jesus Christ was a person? No way, they can't. But, based on proofs that they've TAUGHT us in schools, sure, I've learned that he was. Maybe I'm wrong. MAYBE - just maybe - this isn't a debate, but a matter of facts and evidence. AMEN.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

I think he was however nobody can be sure though I do know he isn't white hehe. Where he was born they were of a darker skin tone... so yeah... .>
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

Yes, at least two contemporary "Roman" historians wrote about him: Josephus and Tacitus. Although there may be evidence that Josephus' writings were tampered with by the early Church, Tacitus also mentions him. Unlike Josephus' writings, Tacitus was very critical of Christ and the Christians (much unlike Josephus' references), leading most scholars to believe Tacitus. Moreover, although not the most accurate Roman historian, Tacitus is seen as one of the most trustworthy.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

Honestly, history overwhelming points toward Christ being very real. Please do some research.By the way, was Aristotle real?What about George Washington?
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

Yeah he is. He is one of the reasons I and you are alive.Note: disputes w/this please it's simple and do not wish to debate over it.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

to have a valid opinion it must be based on some kind of an authority or fact. most ancient religious books ( bible,quar'an),mention Jesus,so hes existence could be easily prov en for religious people,but people who do not share that religion might disagree,so they should be asked on what they're arguments are based?(which authority?).the existence of Jesus is certainly not the problem,the issue is our concept of Jesus, is he that supernatural person? if so that would invalid his existence as a real person. thus the definition of person is a socially active human being ,which indeed he was based on the ancient texts. Jesus Christ was indeed a real person but the concept that we now share about him might the source of our disagreement.does he have a human essence or a divine one? both questions wouldn't invalid hes existence as a real person, but would create a new problematic.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

Of course he was a real person. To compromise for other religions, i will be broad so dont get too mad. He was a real person, whether or not he rose from the dead, i dont know. But there r records of him being there and dying.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

Yes! Jesus Christ is a real person. There are records other then the Bible that record Jesus Christ the Jesus Christ that made miracles and died on the cross for our sins.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

Duh, even the most Christian hating atheists know that he was a real person. This is a question of historical ignorance. No offense, i'm no history buff, but if you answered 'No' you don't know the first thing about historical investigation
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

Not necessarily, there are a few in academic fields who doubt the historicity of Jesus, and many of them aren't even atheists.http://www.answers.com/topic/jesus-myth-hypothesis-1 There are several historical accounts of Jesus, none of them written when he was alive. Certainly there are some grounds to doubt his historicity. While I personally believe that Jesus was a real person, I don't deny there is good reason to doubt this.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

Yes there are scholors that will dispute this but i'm not a fan of their inconsistancy when they do so. A lot of scholars will support the existance of people from the past who are way less documented then Jesus' existance. I think with Christianity people can't help but be all or nothing for or against it. If they hate religion they won't even give historical credit where credit is due. For instance you might as well trust absolutely NOTHING from the ancient world if you doubt the Romans crucified Jesus. But yet you'll have scholars who deny the crucifixion, then turn around and defend the validity of events in the Trojan War when it was only documented by Homer hundreds of years after the war (as an example). As for me I grew tired of denying that i'm pretty much half a christian, i see good arguements on both sides of the fence. I often find myself saying "That athiest does make a damn good point on that one" or "I can't grasp the inconsistancy in that biblical passage" etc. I wish everyone was fair and consistant
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

Yes there was Matthew Mark Luke and John all wrote what they saw and what he did on this earth. Luke was the most descriptive because he was a doctor and doctors are really discriptive.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

It became somewhat fashionable to deny the historical existence of Jesus Christ starting in the mid to late 1960s. Little did the buying public realize, but this was nothing new. In fact, during the revolutionary period including the French Revolution of 1789, more than a few books in the exact same genre started to circulate underground due to censors. What I find fascinating are those deluded fools who actually contemplate the possibility that, except for themselves (the genius skeptic and doubter) everyone for the past 2,000 years has been wrong and Jesus never existed. Give me a break and, by the way, whatever you're smoking I'll have some too.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

this topic is too vague we have believers and non believers is anybody really going to win this topic. Lets talk about Barney being a real dinosaur. This is not a win debate
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

Yes he was because he died on the cross for our sins and rose from the dead. Also Matthew,Mark,Luke,and John from four different people who saw and described on what Jesus did on this earth.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

I believe he was. I also believe he was bat shit crazy. Its just people were stupid back then and believed him.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

no one should doubt his existence because multiple NON religious historical texts have said he is real. it is wether he is divine which people may doubt. just out of curiosity is there any reason to doubt his existence? why would someone make him up and how could they pull off turning it into what is currently the largest religion on the planet.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: YES

Yes, even Richard Dawkins admitted it. Besides all the evidence whether your religious or not point to His existence.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: YES

Jesus Christ is real and there is historical evidence of Him in history books.
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

yes he was christ because he was in your heart and that he the one that birth you
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: yes

YES he was real how dare even think of that ? how did the heavens and the earths rise ? something created us if you don't believe in him get your trunks on cause you will be swimming in the lake of fire!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Debate: WAS JESUS CHRIST A REAL PERSON?
Side: No

YES, SOMETHING DID CREATE US. THAT IS NOT THE QUESTION. I AM ASKING IF JESUS CHRIST WAS A REAL PERSON. STRANGE, I NEVER KNEW CHRISTIANITY WAS ABOUT THREATNING TO BURN SOMEONE IN A "lake of fire" WHENEVER THEY ASK A QUESTION."how dare even think of that ?" sic.I DARE YOU TO THINK.