azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

You obviously never sit a science class. 2+2=4 if you get 6 you cannot argue some compromise like it's 5. No, your opinion does not counts. Physics works same way, it uses mathematics as a language. Chemistry works very similar. ""Not all physicist agree"" but all of them follows same rules.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

Did you even read what I said? What the 2's represent is what is debatable. If you add 2 apples + 2 oranges you get 4, but what does 4 tell you? Someone has to decide the results. If they follow the same rules, we would still be using all of Newton's. Galileo wouldn't have made any contributions. Einstein's theory of relativity wouldn't exist. They don't all follow the same rules. If they did nobody would learn anything.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

That's why we have reference frames :D
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

You never said anything about reference frames. You only said that 2+2=4. I showed that math is correct, but what it means isn't always correct.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

You may be surprised, those familiar with paganism or magick regard love,compassion and kindness a form of magick. Meditation can be ritualistic. It is not common one pursue these fields just to be Harry Potter. Those feat are impossible to do and not productive whatsoever.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

Statistics show that there are more atheists among the higher IQ level than theists. I only think theres a corrolation between IQ and being thiest or non theist but not between different religions. Actually, scratch that, Mormons and scientologists are probably far lower IQ levels than Christians or otherwise.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

There are plenty of cult leaders in the past and present that have an extremely high percentage of IQ. Etc. Charles Manson, Anton LaVey. Furthermore, most people have about an average IQ and yet their perceptions of reality differs from one another.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

Here are links to some of factual studies:High IQ = Liberal, Atheist, Monogamous: http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/highiq…High IQ Linked to Liberalism/Atheism: http://www.upi.com/HealthNews/2010/03/0…Higher IQs turn into Atheists: http://www.timeshighereducation.co.uk/st…Why do Atheists Outscore Christians: http://theweek.com/article/index/207591/…Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gI2LhaclI All of these confirm higher atheist IQ levels. Thats all im arguing.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

Hahaha that's it? I don't know about you but IQ questions are skewed to the favour of people who spends more time on it. Example mathematics, trigonometry. Maybe some riddles that involves creativity an critical thinking. (Let's see scientist attempting that. Let them apply 'identifying the variables, form a hypothesis' a.k.a the scientific method) And priest may have high I.Q but their mathematical skills are just rusty. Front man of Gun's and Roses, Axel has a high IQ and I trust that test somehow. He was doing poorly in school.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

Let the theists have fun in their little creative worlds then. And us atheists can stick to actually making important advances in relevant areas of study :)
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

The world is governed through the realms of business, economics and management. I should know, I am in it. It involves psychology, social science, philosophy, accounting and even using scientific methods. These people are the ones that make the bucks. I dare say most of us have about an average IQ. It means little at this time and age. If 'creativity' to you only means having day dreams then you obviously do not have an ounce of it. And clearly even science requires abstract intelligence. If you have already regarded theist as incompetent before even knowing them then you did not bother doing your own research without depending on the internet and also zero comprehension of what creativity is then lets see you making important decisions.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

As he said most of high IQ people do not tend to magic/religion . Charles Manson was just murder with a fanclub, Lavey wasn't really smart.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

Lavey seems more rational in tone and speech than most priest out there. To be able to commit a crime carefully thought out and to be manipulative requires commendable intelligence, no? Please look up IQ. One who possesses them are not reflected upon the job they do. You are born with high IQ and then there is the issue of environment and upbringing. Many kids with hyper active disorders have high IQ. some made it in life, some dont.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

My IQ is somewhere around 180-190. I'm ADD but I don't do so badly. All is it about details. You don't have to be smart to be manipulative. Smart people aren't usually religious because it simply does not fit to reality around you. It would be like being permanently stabbed with a pencil.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

'Smart people aren't usually religious because it simply does not fit to reality around you.'Haha, my point exactly. I was beginning to wonder how you cope with miserable one liners that lacks depth in conversation. To have 180-190 is impressive but I fail to see how you will excel in fields you take no particular time and interest to invest in. I know you don't have to be smart to be manipulative but it is a clearly a remarkable sign of intelligence. It is the holy grail for leadership. There are clearly many aspects of intelligence. What do you mean religion does not fit the reality around you? I can't say for Xians but I am a Buddhist. Look up non-duality, THAT is my concept of reality. Each religion has its own way of presenting it.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

I simply can compare more data... I tend to track down information. Same it was with religion vs. me... I looked where it came from. I took me about a day. All of them began as as misunderstanding of natural phenomena that developed into animalism with developed to into hybrid half-human-half-animal sets of gods (Ancient Egypt) followed by polytheism alá Greek gods and first monotheism like Zoroastrian, Judaism with it's top ups Christianity, Islam, Mormons...the point is that it all begun in ignorance, it's just an error in judgement, done long time ago.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

Of coarse it does. Anybody with any intelligence would never rule out what cannot be proven or disproven. To say I'm an atheist, takes no intelligence.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

I've really missed seeing some of your arguments. Humorous, yet completely earnest.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

Theists may hate it but studies do show as education levels rise, the belief in God(s) fall, this shows to me how the belief Gods survive purely of ignorance of things like science, which is why almost everyone was one hundreds of years ago before science could explain things.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

The amount of education one receives does not really mean the same thing as intelligence.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

so if you had a near death experience and you witnessed hell you would just dismiss it as nothing and not even think about it? I highly doubt that it wouldn't bother you in the least bit of sense
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

Sure it might be traumatic but it certainly wouldnt be proof or even very sufficient evidence to base belief in Hell and christianity on at all. The rational thing to do would not be to dismiss it but to asses it. What is the most likely cause for it? Maybe you're an atheist but the idea of hell always bothered you and being an atheist means you live knowing that (should christianity be correct) youll go to hell (not that it bothers most of us). This might mean that the brain simulated an imagnined dream of hell, spurred on by fear of hell mixed with a frightened shocked body and all kinds of hormones rushing like adrenaline. That is a more logical approach to it and after which, yeah, it can pretty much be dismissed.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

Real scientist are actually studying this phenomena as much as how dreams work. And even the definitive answer for the origin of life.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

Well theyve always been searching for the origin of life but these dream studies are pretty new. Its crazy what theyre finding. They can actually project a fuzzy image of ones dream onto a TV screen!
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

I guess it depends on whether they base their choice of religion on evidence rather than on faith, but as a result that kind of makes atheism more intelligent than anything else.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

"Every one who is seriously engaged in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that the laws of nature manifest the existence of a spirit vastly superior to that of men, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble. The pursuit of science leads therefore to a religious feeling of a special kind, which differs essentially from the religiosity of more naive people." Einstein
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

He said a lot more about strict scientific rigor, so let's not have the above out of context. Still, he did say it.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

Well, to be honest I believe that intelligence truly does dictate someone's choice of religion. However, not always. First of all, those who are extremely smart in the sciences are almost always Atheists, because they know a ton of information that all goes against the belief in god. Than there are other people who are not as intelligent as far as science goes, so they are the people who are more willing to believe in god. Then there are people who have an average intelligence, so most of the population, who simply just decide for themselves whether there decision is based off of what they know or not. There are many factors that go into whether a person is religious or if they are not, and intelligence does play a role in some cases, but not always. But for the most part, I would say yes.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

For Christians to believe everything that is mentioned in the bible without questioning has nothing to do with any inferior intelligence but ignorance. Intelligence is used to analyse information. If that information is limited and controlled anyone can be 'stupid'. Even cavemen.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

I am an Atheist, however you are basically saying that all Christians believe that everything is mentioned in the bible without questioning it. That is not true, however. There are a lot of so called "Christians" who do not fully believe everything in the bible. And I will say that it is not always ignorance like you like you claim. Yes, I think a lot of religious people are ignorant. But you also have to understand that sometimes it is just choice. They choose to believe in something because it makes them feel better, it gives them help to put faith in a "god" It doesn't mean they are ignorant nessacarily.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

You are mixing 'regular' folks with a religion and an actually religious person. The bible is clear about damnation and those who have very clear motives of escaping that fate are the real numb skulls..and real Christians. Those who casually need a sense of divine protection need not have to be a Christian and those who really are Christians takes it to levels we couldnt comprehend.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

Of course it does. If one is a pseudo-intellect, then your choice is atheism. If you are actually intelligent then one of the other religions is your choice.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

Intelligence can influence one to choose a religion that centers on peace.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

No, plenty of great civilisations, empires, cultures in the past have indeed a strong religious background. Polytheism in fact. China, Egypt, Greek. Many have had made incredible scientific discoveries. It is only the Abrahmic religions that insist that the meddlings of their dusty tome contains absolute truth and persecute anyone that goes against them till this very day.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

most of them fallen because of other religions .
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

No, conquer was a very common game. I bet most religions do not permit slaughter among kingdoms. Japan and China were Buddhist countries but they were at each others necks and this still happens today.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

You should go trough history with little more emphasis on detail :D
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

I will if you do. Countries that branches out their influence are among a small a minority of people. Rulers force common folks like farmers, artisans to their cause. No one wants to go to war. Countries rarely go to war for the sake of religion but for land and power. Why bother a miserable looking place that has differing believes.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

But imagine how would you form a large scale army without religion? What you would promise all those soldiers? They didn't get paid, they could die for something that they do care about what so ever. You need a religion with ultimate reward for dying for your/their god/s, who is coincidentally represented by your ruler...
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

There are plenty of atheists in the military who would die for their country. There are also religious officers who are brilliant and very educated.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

In modern army they get quite well paid also healthcare and the service is not mandatory for life.In the past it was very different.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

So then one can easily imagine how to form a large scale army without religion.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

that's just off .
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

Have you ever heard of nationalism, patriotism, conscription? I don't see how you can possibly claim that soldiers joined the military because they felt morally bound to.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

I could only wonder what other examples you can use besides the Crusaders.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

To some extent yes, but I think that in most situations it has more to do with the people you are surrounded by.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

I'm not religious but if you think about it, the life of ignorance in which you can push all your problems on a "god," is ingenious. To live through bliss is a dream i have. "Perception is suffering."
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

I think that person has to be really dumb to willingly lie them self, ranter than accepting the reality
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

Well anyone who is consumed in religion and the government don't view it as a lie to them selves; that's the beauty of ignorance.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

It's not dumb to put faith in a higher power, when your house get's burned down because electricity struck it, when the reality is that it was just a freak accident. It's just more comfortable to believe that happened for a reason, and that when you die, you won't just rot in the ground, but instead you'll be transported to peace. It's also not dumb to believe that good people are rewarded and bad people are punished, it's just more comfortable to.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

The media state and culture has boiled the world down to global awareness of only 5 options 'Christian', 'Catholic', 'Agnostic', 'Jewish', and 'Athiest'. The world isn't so straight forward and these religions are so massive and convoluted that we can't really see that there are any others. Truth is that any fact or logic contained with in them has been jumbled by humanity to the point of mass contradiction.Take a look at American History and tell me the religion which most ever founding father and hero is - its Deism. The belief in god/gods and not churches and their books - mostly that god exists without influencing our earthly existance. It is possibly to believe in god without mass corruption or false devotion.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

Believe what you want to believe, know what you want to know.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

intelligence, we can all agree is book knowledge. If I have spent years studying anything concerned with religion, I could be considered intelligent in those regards.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

Clarify:Being smart or having book knowledge is not necessarily the same as intelligence. I think that's the disconnect here. Some people are very intelligent without formal book knowledge. They have a knack for critical thinking or analysis.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

That's called being analytical or wise. They aren't the same thing.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

I cannot comprehend how degrees of intelligence can correlate with a belief system. Religions is most often sprouted from a long and strict process of teachings and experiences guided by parents or other authorities. Intelligence is a personal journey which constantly changes and forms new shapes as time passes. Religion is most often a stable growth. In short, intelligence is more of a personal occurrence which we create ourselves and religion is more of a set of principles in which we do not need certain levels of intelligence to understand or follow it.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

But I wasn't talking about just following religion. I was referring to people who are deeply immersed in their religion and know the history and terms quite well.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

According to many statistics Smarter people or in least better educated are much less religious...
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

Care to provide those statistics?
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

I think that they are freely available, have you tried Google?
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

I questioning their existence.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religiosity andintelligence#Studiescomparingreligiousbeliefand_I.Q.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

Wikipedia isn't very valid, maybe you could cross reference that with something that not just anybody can edit. Religion is a hot topic, it's not too implausible that someone would fudge the results in their favor.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

I don't think it does religion is a personal journey and your choice of which path to take on that journey does not imply how intelligent you are, although your intelligence may determine how much you understand the religious teachings
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

"smarter" people can compare mythology to reality distinguish it from it and bin it. Idiots can't do simply because they are not capable of such comparison also they lack knowledge to compare it with.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

Not really. There are way too many exceptions among the religious and non-religious for this to even be generally true.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

One's preference for a certain way of thinking is dependant on the environments that mould him, not his degree of cleverness or knack for understanding divine/humane concepts.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

Why do people think is a atheist / theist debate? This is about religion which doesn't necessarily imply theism.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

My guess is that although they think they are more intelligent their are some Atheists who don't seem to understand the difference between religion and Theism.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

Theism and religion are same thing, one without other literaly means nothing
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

You can have Religion without Theism but you cannot have Theism without religion, if you don't understand that your obviously not as smart as you think and are hardly in a position to take the piss out of other people because of their beliefs
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

In fact upon thinking about it a bit more you can believe some kind of Deity exists without following a religion so your are completely incorrect you can have religion without Theism and Theism without religion
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: Yes

Theism is belief in god/s (to keep it simple), Religion is a same thing, just organised. Religion without god/s or god/s like creatures would be meaningless set of irrational rituals and festivals.Theism is a nonsense, pretty much impossible without religion. It would be just a random statement like "I am a ferret".I know that there's Buddhism ... but that's more like lifestyle.
Debate: Does a person's intelligence dictate their choice of religion?
Side: No

You've defeated yourself with your own argument with your comment about Buddhism. Buddhism, Taoism and Paganism are all religions that don't neccasarily involve Deity's and as I pointed out people who don't follow a religion but believe that a deity exists prove that you can have Theism without Religion.