azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

How is God not doing what you want him to do a sin? God has no obligation towards you or me except to punish our sin.God has revealed himself to you. Read Romans 1, it says he clearly seen by all men so they are without excuse.You are without excuse!
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

Um, Romans 1 was written before my time. I have not seen God. He needs to show himself, or he is sinning in my eyes.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

You can read it now, and if you read my other argument (the long one) you'll see that you know God exists and prove it everytime you utter a knowledge claim.It doesnt matter if He is sinning in your eyes, you are dust compared to him soo...
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

I mean that even if the claim in Romans 1 (that all men have seen God) were true at the time, it can't predict the future. Like if you said 10 years ago "There has never been a black U.S. president," that's about the past, not necessarily the future. God should fear my judgment.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

If you read the passage you'll see that people knowledge of God is plain to them through creation. Creation still exists, therefore the statement still applies.Hahaha, as if God should fear a dust mite shaking his fist at Him.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

Did god created everything that is on Earth, and Sun and all planets and all stars and even all wast space and universe as such. Did he even created all atoms and all particles and all materia that exist? Did he created everything there is to be ever known to a man or even not man?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

Yes he did create those as well as non-physical things such as angels, whats your point?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

Our point is that you have no confirmable evidence of God, angels, or God creating anything. Saying that God created everything, so everything is evidence for God, is irrelevant. If i ask you for evidence for God, you'll say "Everything is evidence for God." Me: "Why?" You: "Because God created everything." Me: "How do you know that God exists?" You: "Because everything is evidence for God.". It's paradoxical.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

Which facts are you referring to? And when you state "God" what do you mean by that? What is your definition of "doesn't reveal himself like he allegedly used to..." Also, strong evidence against...?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

Which facts are you referring to?Have you ever seen him or talked to him? It is a fact that he doesn't reveal himself.And when you state "God" what do you mean by that?I didn't state "God," but he's the subject of this debate. If you don't know who he is, you belong on this side.What is your definition of "doesn't reveal himself like he allegedly used to..."He no longer talks to people, makes it rain frogs, parts the Red Sea, stuff like that. Why did he stop making his presence known?Also, strong evidence against...?Yes. It seems very fishy that he was once so active, then disappeared before we had video cameras.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

You were obviously referring to God, don't give me that ... I do believe in God yes. God still talks to people, perhaps God is still speaking yet due to various reasons, its voice is not heard by some. Ever consider that? Oh I'm sure in due time it will be raining frogs, parting of seas, mother nature will dance and whatever else is going to happen. Once again, Gods presence is well known throughout people yet those whom are not open to it perhaps are blind and deaf to its presence. Haha, so you're wondering why God didn't "present himself" when VHS - HD cameras were around? So we can put it on youtube titled "Look, it's God in the flesh". I have a strong feeling and belief the reasons for belief (faith) concerning humans is to have faith without having physically see it. Yes, to make it "tough" on us. Yes, I believe God has a sense of humor. And yes, I believe God is testing us and has been from the beginning. I remember an atheist once was asked if there was one question they could ask God, their response was "Why have you hidden from us?" < - - - And this seems to be one of the main reasons atheists and non believers do not believe. Because precisely what you're speaking of; and that is God has not physically shown itself to mankind.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

this seems to be one of the main reasons atheists and non believers do not believe. Because precisely what you're speaking of; and that is God has not physically shown itself to mankind.Well god seems to have shown himself so many times in the past: to Noah, to Moses, to Maria obviously and so on. How come he never showed up himself in public in modern times? What about your god being an alien from another planet who happened to have sex with Maria. That would explain why he needed to physically impregnate Maria. Wouldn't it be enough to just create a baby Jesus just like he did with Adam & Eva? Why did he needed sexual intercourse in case of Jesus? By the way couldn't he just speak to people instead of going that long, strange 20-years long way to speak to people (I suppose it took at least some 18 - 20 years until Jesus was a grown up man ready to speak to people).I assure you that is not the main reason why atheist don't believe in god. There is no main reason. Atheists don't believe there is no god; atheists know there is no god. They know because they are able to use their logic and reasoning and don't need fairy tales to fill in the gaps they can't answer yet.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

If you claim atheist "know" there is not a God, you are wrong. You're just as fucked up as any other believer (not including myself), whom "knows" for certain that there is a God. Believe what you may, and I believe in what I may. Further. I believe there is a God, and I feel that I "know" to myself there is at least one, however, for me to say to others that what they believe in is "wrong", would be lying. Yet, you sit here and lie to the world saying you "know" there is not a God because of "logic". Fuck logic. This is not about human logic. Logic is a biproduct of something. Do you understand?You're just as crazy as the extremists of both religion and science. I have no time, other than now, to speak to you. This is the end.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

Talking about raining frogs, did you ever noticed that even though God did that, the king of egypt still didnt believe in Him, and neither would you. The Bible says there is ample evidence to condemn your unbelief and he will unoess he changes your heart.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

If it rained frogs, I wouldn't immediately believe it was God, but I'd start looking into it. I haven't seen any signs from God. Why doesn't he send me an email?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

He's not obligated to please you. He's given you evidence and you reject him to the point of denying he exists. Its a good thing he doesnt send you an email or appear to you, because unless he changed your heart, you would be under greater judgement and have even less of an excuse for rejecting him.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

He's given you evidence and you reject him to the point of denying he existsReally what evidence is that?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

The other day I missed a call and it said UNKNOWN CALLER. Maybe that was him. He didn't leave a message.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

Well theres a few verses in your bible that states your fairytale revealed himself.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

God or Jesus Christ? A. You don't even know that I believe in the bible or not. B. It seems like you're assuming way too much about the bible, in general. C. It's not "my bible", in fact I am not a believer in all of the bible, I believe the bible is not to be taken too literally, whilst some things are guidelines, rather than strict rules. But hey, had I said that back in the "bible times" I probably would have fit right in. D. God is not a fairytale, "fairytale" is just a word people like you (a non believer) enjoys saying as if you've got proof that no God is there. And don't give me the bullshit response "It's up to you to prove to me because you have assertions of something, therefore you must provide the evidence, I don't need to provide you with evidence of the absence of God." It works both ways; there have always been non-believers...that argument is worthless. We're both humans with curiosity.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

What are you getting upset about? You told the other guy to give proof that God revealed himself and I'm just letting you know the bible you worship has a few verses that says he revealed himself. So there's really no argument. But of coarse most of the bible cant be proven.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

What are you getting upset about? You told the other guy to give proof that God revealed himself and I'm just letting you know the bible you worship has a few verses that says he revealed himself. So there's really no argument. But of coarse most of the bible cant be proven. I was just helping out a fellow ally.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

I'm getting upset because you claim I worship the bible. I do not worship the bible, get that into your dull skull.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

Do you believe in vampires?If not can you prove they don't exist?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

Vampires, unicorns, tooth fairy, these matter not. We're talking about God, not a philosophical debate about how to not prove something is there. You're the one clumping them altogether as if they're nearly the same thing. To you they're all fantasy, to me God is much more than a fantasy. To me, santa claus is a fantasy. To me, unicorn is a fantasy. There may be a few books and accounts for vampires, and perhaps one time one guy saw a unicorn, however, what does this have to do with me, amongst billions of people that believe in any God? Now we're talking apples and oranges, not fruit altogether. Further, there are many more people that can agree that vampires, true vampires that can fly, that can drink blood to live, vampires that are 1,000 years old, do not exists. There are few people whom claim that unicorns exist. And so on the premise, yes I am using numbers for this particular case to point on, no body gives a shit about vampires and unicorns and tooth fairies and santa claus, those are not important. You, and others, are attempting to clump them all together and state "They're just the imagination of people, like people believing in santa claus, tooth fairy ect"... These things do not matter and are not valuable to the human being! OBVIOUSLY, there holds more grounds and value when speaking about God. God in the sense of a "deity", or "creator", or whatever; GOD. God is far more valuable to a person than a fucking vampire! And further, I can picture one saying "Well, just because it's valuable does not mean it exists" or "Just because billions of people believe it to be true, does not mean it exists" and so and so and so. I agree. On the mere fact that people have MANY different Gods and the human imagination is almost infinite and is a wonderful thing. Who can prove that God is not real? Fuck the vampires, santa claus, and the others. Again, they hold little to no value. However, to me and to many others in whatever God they believe in, God is real, and is tangible and is logical, and is rational. Who are you to say otherwise?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

Fuck off. Believe in whatever you wish, if matters not to me. We'll see who's right, in this life or the next.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

I do enjoy this, you can never respond to an argument. If you think your arguments are strong, why can you not defend them?You constantly resort to swearing and abuse, all that does is make people think you cannot respond to the criticism.We'll see who's right, in this life or the next.Why will someone provide some evidence for God?Also I highly doubt there will be a next life, when we die, there is nothing that can live on.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

We'll see who's right, in this life or the next.Do you have any proof/evidence there is next life? If there is a next life does it mean you know how it will look like? Does it also means there is a life before this one? Do you remember it?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

Of course I have no proof. When did you not realize that faith is based upon, belief and faith? LOL You're a fucking troll account for the fun of it. FUCK OFF NOOBY! LOLOLOL
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

The Truth is God.If you believe i evidence, you believe in truth. If there is any truth at all, The Truth must be in it.God is closer than your breath.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

AGAIN ?!?!?!?!
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

Yes again. Just so I can communocate with you because you havent shown up here that often. So lets debate.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

Ahahaha alright! You open with your argument then, would you kindly?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

Sure buddy. I think an intelligent designer is highly possible and the laws of thermodynamics do support the existence of a powerful eternal creator.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

the laws of thermodynamics do support the existence of a powerful eternal creatorExcept they do not on the premise that the second law of thermodynamics, the Law of Conservation of Matter/Energy, state that energy cannot be created or destroyed; two things God does quite often.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

True true but if this is an eternal being he exists outside of the realm of space and time and thus can control everything on the inside of this realm. So by an intelligent designers power he could break that law and that law could apply to everything inside the realm. One could ask if that law was applied then who created or what created all of this.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

True true but if this is an eternal being he exists outside of the realm of space and time and thus can control everything on the inside of this realm.There is nothing that suggests that an external entity could hold any influence on our spacetime. But let's, for the sake of further argument, suspend the disbelief. So by an intelligent designers power he could break that law and that law could apply to everything inside the realm.Well, no, because that entity would have to have it's own spacetime to be able to choicefully interject at select intervals of our own spacetime, and the total entropy of the two systems, even through the "addition of matter" into our own, would still have to be contained. Which is to say that in order for there to be a God, God would need to be a cognitive spacetime bubble that loses energy to our own spacetime, making God an ever-retreating ever-depreciating entity, contrary to the claimed omnipotence He has. One could ask if that law was applied then who created or what created all of this.Again you bring it back to who, when who implies not only an intent, but a concept of real things or people or entities beyond reality, which is a paradox. In order for it to exist, it has to be within existence.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

Well, no, because that entity would have to have it's own spacetime to be able to choicefully interject at select intervals of our own spacetime, and the total entropy of the two systems, even through the "addition of matter" into our own, would still have to be contained. Which is to say that in order for there to be a God, God would need to be a cognitive spacetime bubble that loses energy to our own spacetime, making God an ever-retreating ever-depreciating entity, contrary to the claimed omnipotence He has.If a being has its own spacetime it cannot be a god because it is limited. Thus it cannot have its own bubble either because it would be limited. This means that the beong must ne eternal and not affected by the laws of science and it must exist in its own realm. Nothing can create an eternal being. This being must have abilities that defy our knowledge. It doesnt have to be limited by our scientific laws. Science has not explained everything and only explains the things in our universe. Again you bring it back to who, when who implies not only an intent, but a concept of real things or people or entities beyond reality, which is a paradox. In order for it to exist, it has to be within existence.Not quite. If it exists outside of our spacetime then how can one see or touch it? If this being is eternal then it must be omnipotent and it must be able to exist outside of it. Can you elaborate on this "paradox"?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

It sounds far too fantastic to be true, to be honest. Are you sure you're backing up a realistic and possible idea, or just writing science fiction about some god that lives beyond time and space.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

It is just simple logic. The same thing he wrote. My explanation explained the possible existence for am eternal being that cannot be limited. Nobody has an explanation yet.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

It is not just simple logic and you know that.You have essentially invented something that is beyond reality, which is completely silly.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

Ummm no? If a being is outside of our spacetime then it isnt affected bu our laws. What is hard about that concept?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

It's not real. What your saying is just science fiction.Sure, there COULD be a being like that, but it's just silly and obviously not real.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

How is it not real?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

It's not a hard concept.There's just no reason you're talking about anything other than science fiction.What you're saying is just not real. It's fantasy. I'm not sure how you can't see that.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

Prove intelligent design is a fairy tale.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

If a being has its own spacetime it cannot be a god because it is limited. Thus it cannot have its own bubble either because it would be limited.Right where I'm getting to! So we cannot categorize God as a product of Existence, rather it is either the product or the entirety of Non-existence. This means that the beong must ne eternal and not affected by the laws of science and it must exist in its own realm. Nothing can create an eternal being. This being must have abilities that defy our knowledge. It doesnt have to be limited by our scientific laws. Science has not explained everything and only explains the things in our universe.Soooo God is a quark?Not quite. If it exists outside of our spacetime then how can one see or touch it?My point exactly.If this being is eternal then it must be omnipotent and it must be able to exist outside of it.Right, but is being eternal even a real thing? There is nothing that'd lead me to believe so. Can you elaborate on this "paradox"?The paradox is: That which does not exist cannot have a name, shape, form, or purpose, because names, shapes, forms, and purposes are things that exist; and existence and non-existence are mutually exclusive, by definition.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

I dont understand your first statement. This just means that a being exists outside of spacetime. Also I am not arguing for God but an intelligent designer. Being eternal? We dont know yet. I highly doubt we will break through our universal barrier. The paradox you stated stipl doesnt make an absolute judgement that makes an eternal being impossible.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

You can't really see the difference between your wishes and reality :D do you?True true but if this is an eternal being he exists outside of the realm of space and time That actually means that he does not exist :D :D
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

No. That means the possibility for an intelligent designer is possible. The being would be eternal. I never said that it would prove the existense to a 100% sure fire extent. This being would exist outside of our spacetime because it cannot be limited and it must be able to create matter. Either it can be conscious or just be some incredibly powerful atoms bosons or something.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

but you haven't proof anything, you didn't offer a single piece of evidence just another blob.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

Thats the entire point of debating this topic. Nobody has proven or disproven the existence of an eternal being. Nobody has. That is why you debate the topic. Because you havent even provided any sort of evidence. You go straight to vulgarity.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

God is your idea so logically burden of proof is on your side, yet you haven't present any.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

My idea is intelligent design. Prove me wrong. You havent done that yet. You aren't debating. You are just saying I am wrong without providing evidence.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

If the idea of god never existed, we would all be atheists, though the label would never exist. The one who "doesn't buy it" doesn't have to prove anything, to hold back belief and remain unconvinced, requires no evidence at all. Only an atheist can truly lack belief and be the one remaining truly unconvinced, only an atheist can make absolutely no assertion by being an atheist. The prefix A- means not or without, and the word theist means a belief in god, so atheism means "not or without a belief in god" not an assertion god doesn't exist. Though atheism can be an assertion most atheists are merely the skeptics. A theist can never truly have a lack of belief like an atheist can without it contradicting being a theist, as the definition for a theist is one whom believes in god. To believe in god that is an assertion within the mind. So if anyone wanted to prove that god doesn't exist as a fact or to even justify believing god doesn't exist, they'd have to disprove god, however it's double edged sword, for to believe god does exist or exist as a fact, one has to show some evidence for god. .Any belief in god is unreasonable as there lacks a reason, unless one is provided, which one never has, one that I found logical anyways. However no reason is required to not believe in god in the first place. I would say that is quite easy to argue god being possible especially when one brings up another realm of reality that changes the rules of the playing field, as what is logical for our universe doesn't apply anymore. However, possible does not equal probable or actual. I admit that god is possible, as much as unicorns are possible, of course I could easily argue that unicorns are possible in another realm where our science and knowledge doesn't apply.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

That is my point. I have been arguing the possibility of an intelligent designer. Why dispute if you repeated what I said and qualified the possbility?
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

I am just saying possibility does not equal probability or actuality.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

I know. But it still leaves the window open. It doesnt have to be the christian god it doesnt have to be any religious god. It just can be an intelligent designer and so far I havent heard anyone disprove nor prove it.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

All very true, still I can't say I'm convinced personally.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

I know. I believe in an intelligent designer until it is fully disproven. I am just displeased to see that peoppe favor an effect and claim it to disprove the existence of an eternal being by 100%.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

It's like talking to a retard, lets try it once more: YOU came with an idea, YOU have to prove it right.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Atheism

I am not going to debate with you if you wont provide anything. You argued against me. That is your job.
Debate: Does God exist?
Side: Theism

Please explain How thermodynamics gives support of a creator???