azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

You have got to be kidding me. Not only are there thousands of disputes of Christianity, there are thousands of contradictions and self-refuations within Christianity.It doesn't matter how many disputes from man there are. That was prophesied by Jesus in the Bible, that many would dispute His word. Stop right there. Atheism is proving nothing (a fact I was so ignorant to until ThePyg enlightened me). It makes no claims, and, therefore, it need defend nothing.Cliche'. Typical response of an atheist. Atheists have a track record of not wanting to prove Atheism is correct yet they expect Christianity to be proved correct. Atheism makes so many claims that it is pitiful. Just read all of the claims you atheists have already made on my topic.This is a textbook example of the argumentum ad bullshit logical fallacy.Your response is al'a textbook bullshit.Atheism requires no faith. And even if it did, your argument is irrelevant as theism does as well.In order to believe in something that is unseen such as your religion of Atheism, yes, it requires faith. And yes, I have a strong faith and freely admit it. Faith is good.OK. You have now claimed that faith-based beliefs are "illogical." Christianity is a faith-based belief. Therefore, Christianity is illogical. You have successfully disproven your own argument.No, I did not claim that and if that is what you believe, please show my text where I said that.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Here, this should clear the ignorance up:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSOaSeJgvKI&list=PLA4AD71E546A83D85&index=41&feature=plpp_video
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

I choose logic over false hope.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

How can you believe in logic without any hope in your life? How can you live a life without hope? I don't believe you really understand what you just said.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

I believe you don't understand what you said...
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

I said it first now come on, be original at least. I think you and I are done communicating.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

This should clear it all up:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSOaSeJgvKI&list=PLA4AD71E546A83D85&index=41&feature=plpp_video
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Christianity is perhaps the most vile ideal to poison the minds of men. It's uses, motives, and fictional stories are quite plainly immoral. (http://aynrandlexicon.com/lexicon/religion.html)(http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/richard_carrier/whynotchristian.html)(http://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/ 3956.Christopher_Hitchens)
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

The biggest difference between Christians and atheists is their belief on th character of God. This is the core dispute. Atheists have an inability to to comprehend just how holy God is. I recommend you read The Holiness of God by R.C. Sproul and then get back with me.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

" their belief on th character of God."The evil character of your fictional deity?"This is the core dispute"No it isn't, unless you mean within the context of this particular debate. The primary issue is whether or not an unjustified assertion can be considered possible or not. I contest that by all logical reasoning it can not." I recommend you read The Holiness of God by R.C. Sproul and then get back with me."How dare you give me material to analyze when you disregard the multiple sources I have presented to you. You have disputed none of them. Also, I care not for your feeble attempts to justify the pure evil exhibited by your deity in your fiction book, I care more for dealing with relevant debate(like the before mentioned issue).
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

My deity is not fictional and what you state is mere hear say. Yes, the core dispute because you are quite aware that atheists operate off of what they call "logic" while Christians are driven by faith in Jesus. I did give you material to read and I still urge you to read it. I don't care if you don't care about my feeble attempts, I will present them to you anyways just as you present feeble attempts to me.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

"My deity is not fictional and what you state is mere hear say"Hahahahahaha you are hilarious. The status quo is that he doesn't exist. In order for the topic to even be debatable, you must provide challenging evidence that brings the status quo into question. "Christians are driven by faith in Jesus"An irrational position in honor of an evil individual."I did give you material to read and I still urge you to read it."I will look into it once you actually contest my points and evidence." I will present them to you anyways just as you present feeble attempts to me."My position is defined by logic(no exaggeration, I am an Objectivist).
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

No, because you atheists are in search of some formula that "allows" God to exist. God needs no burden of proof to be proved. It's a matter of faith in Him or not. Please go and watch Paul Washer on youtube.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

"God needs no burden of proof to be proved."Hahahahahahahaha this is the funniest comment I have ever read. If you are unable to realize the absolutely fallicious nature of that statement, then you have no reason to be on a debate website. "It's a matter of faith in Him or not. Please go and watch Paul Washer on youtube."Lol you just don't get it. You still haven't logically disputed even one of my points and haven't addressed my evidence in the slightest. I find you to be intellectually dishonest to a very high degree. You obviously are avoiding answering posed contentions. And if you find a certain piece of evidence relevant, quote it or link it. I won't explore YouTube mindlessly. But of course, only after you have addressed the evidence I presented to you.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

"If you are looking for evidence"False hypothesis, I am looking for nothing, the proposing party has the burden of proof. "you can't just accept certain evidence and deny all other evidence just because it's not the evidence YOU want"You ma'am are a true hypocrite. You do not dispute my contentions. You do not reply to evidence I present. You play the victim to no avail. I presented my evidence beforehand to establish the conditions under which I call myself a gnostic atheist. No intelligent discussion, just more irrelevant blather. Truly pathetic."When looking for proof that what my brother is saying is true I must go look at the evidence provided. I can't say, "I don't believe you."You are ridiculous. This example works within reality, snakes and yards are proven to exist. God on the other hand is not and therefor it becomes a matter of the status quo."Even if God did appear before you in blazing glory, would you believe he existed or would you consider it a hallucination of some sort or a trick played on you?"Being the logical being I am, I would come to blame too much DMT. But at the time such event were occuring I'd probably shun him for being pure evil."How would you know? Simply put, the criteria demanded by Atheists for proof that God exists puts a requirement on logic that is not realistic."It is quite realistic. There aren't special rules when it comes to god, in order to be able to proof an assertion that something exists, it must comply with the axioms(preconditions for proof) of reality."because it isn't scientific or because it isn't what YOU want?"Want I want has no bearing on the validity of anything. "but are you being as objective as you can or do you have a presupposition that God does not exist or that the miraculous cannot occur"I am upholding the Objective standards proposed by Ayn Rand, whose position on the subject is within the evidence I posted that you refuse to contest due to your intellectual dishonesty."If you have a presupposition, then you cannot objectively examine the evidence. Therefore, the presuppositions you hold regarding the miraculous may prevent you from recognizing evidence for God's existence."You are really quite dim. Read carefully, Axioms, Axioms, Axioms."assumption which is irrelevant and illogical."Sticking to the status quo is irrelevant and illogical? Study your claim carefully and hopefully you'll come to realize the pure idiocy of it. Oh and again, Axioms.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

If you are looking for evidence of something you can't just accept certain evidence and deny all other evidence just because it's not the evidence YOU want.That's a bit big coming from one who hasn't provided any valid, cogent, sound and/or binding arguments thus far.Also, you can't tell the evidence what to do and only except the evidence if it does what YOU want.You're attacking a straw man. Since when has anyone said anything about telling a piece of evidence what to do? And I didn't expect your English to surpass your dismal intellect.Lets say that my brother was outside mowing the grass. All of a sudden he bursts through the front door and announces that there is a snake in the middle of the yard. When looking for proof that what my brother is saying is true I must go look at the evidence provided. I can't say, "I don't believe you. The only way I will believe that there is a snake in the yard is if it comes into the house and shows itself to me." That's not only illogical it's just plain dumb.False analogy. God, if he exists, is not a properly basic belief. Neither is he empirically evidential. Thus, for you to make such a claim, you would have to be suffering from a severe mental illness or that you're under a grave delusion.Even if God did appear before you in blazing glory, would you believe he existed or would you consider it a hallucination of some sort or a trick played on you?No, I wouldn't. Because that God must be proven to be maximally great.Simply put, the criteria demanded by Atheists for proof that God exists puts a requirement on logic that is not realistic.Really? Then the benchmark for evidence for a Christian must be abysmally low.In other words, are you OBJECTIVELY examining evidence that is presented or are you just denying it because it isn't scientific or because it isn't what YOU want? You haven't provided any good arguments, scientific or otherwise.Granted, objectivity is difficult for all people, but are you being as objective as you can or do you have a presupposition that God does not exist or that the miraculous cannot occur?And your definition of "objectivity" is?If you have a presupposition, then you cannot objectively examine the evidence. Therefore, the presuppositions you hold regarding the miraculous may prevent you from recognizing evidence for God's existence.You are obviously overly presumptious and ignorant.Finally, If you assume that science can explain all phenomena then there can be no miraculous evidence ever submitted as proof.Straw man.Again since it is impossible to know everything, especially those things that happen outside of our limited space-time continuum, then you are simply making an assumption which is irrelevant and illogical.Aha! Since it is impossible to know everything, then there isn't a being that can be said to be omniscient (all-knowing). Therefore, the Judeo-Christian God doesn't exist!
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Just out of interest, have you heard of Bertrand Russel's 'Celestial Teapot Argument'? It states that, he may claim that there is eternally a teapot, flying around earth, that is so minute that no one may see it. As no one can see it, there is no way to falsify his claims. Is he wrong?By your logic, he is not. But my all forms of rational thinking, common sense, and by scientific logic, he is.Would you apply the same logic here, or is God an exemption to the norm?
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

This should clear the ignorance up:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSOaSeJgvKI&list=PLA4AD71E546A83D85&index=41&feature=plpp_video
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Shockofgod, is an idiot, he blatantly ignores the problem with his own question "what proof is there that atheism is accurate and correct?"Well, why does disbelief of something unverified need proof? It is by it's definition a stance to logically take in the absence of proof. Can you prove that Aunicornism is accurate and correct? No, but you are an Aunicornist. In the same vain, can prove that Hinduism is incorrect and inaccurate? I'm guessing the answer to that would be no as well.Also, I'd not pay too much attention to those that disable commenting on their youtube vids.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Oh no, did I ask the great question that atheists can't stand to hear? Which question is that now? The debate title assumes that Christianity is the opposite to Atheism, I'm sure there's a few Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc, that would disagree. Perhaps the negative position may be that the term "atheism" is incorrect?Why?The argument that a person cannot be a christian because of his or her flaws is also quite weak.Has anybody made this argument here?Christianity will stand the test of time as God is the one and the onlyChristianity has already failed the test of time, logic has won.Scientists make scientific errors all of the timeYou are assuming that an Atheist believes with faith everything that a scientist says, and that science is somehow an Atheist doctrine. This is a false assumption.If a scientist makes an error, which logically they always will, it is the job of the next to work on correcting that. If there were no errors there would be no science, but I'd rather be a round earth theorist than a flat earth theorist, even though both of these stances are wrong, one is evidently closer to the truth.Jesus Christ has never made a mistake and prophecies in the Bible have been and are still being fulfilled today.On what authority do you make a claim such as this? Which prophecies are being fulfilled?God has been a gracious Father to provide both the atheist and christian the solid evidence of His truth.Such as?
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Your God is so gracious and forgiving he sends people to burn for eternity if they dont belive in him. He so so Gracious to starve thousands of children, and lets not forget how nice he was to give us Cancr and AIDS and how it ruin's lives. No lets just turn a blind eye to all that. Even if we do though, there is murder, rape, torcure, and dont fucking say that its mostly atheisits who do it. I dont care who does. If your God is all mighty let him do something. Tell me why he kills innocent children, tell me why he lets us kill each other for personal gain, tell me why he puts all his beloved children though so much pain. And if you say it is a test. Then how is small child under the age of 4, who was raped, slashed, and killed ment to belive that this God is a good God, a forgiving God, a ever Mercifull God...Oh no... did i ask the question you didnt want to hear...
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Good afternoon, I was reading through your post and felt compelled to comment. First of all God has great mercy and compassion, you may not see it around you now but it is there. What you are seeing all around you is the result of war (1 Peter 5:7-9 8.Be sober, be vigilant; because your adversary the devil, as a roaring lion, walketh about, seeking whom he may devour); Just as God is real so is our enemy. That enemy (Satan) does not want you happy, healthy, in love, or in heaven; he wants you in Hell.  All the crimes that you list here rape, murder, torture, etc. these are the crimes men and not of God. God has given us free will and we miss use it all the time, the free will we abuse is yet another indication of his love. God wants from us what we want from each other, simply Love, that’s all just love. The catch is he wants us to love him because we want to not because we have to. If God forced you to do anything you would no longer be free you would become a slave; that’s not what God wants.  Remember God does not want you in Hell, and does not send you there; if you end up in Hell it will the Sin of unbelief that lands you there. God built you a bridge to heaven through Jesus. All the hard part is done for you all you have to do is ask for forgiveness, and you will be forgiven and Heaven will be your home when this life is done.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

"Your God is so gracious and forgiving he sends people to burn for eternity if they dont belive in him"Get back to me on that one once you read James.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

I will be happy to answer, you see, when natural disasters kill a human being the chances of him going to heaven are very high. Stomach cancer is very painful and again the chances of you going to heaven are high. Remember, we believe that in the end, there will be justice. Little kids who die have a 100% chance of going to heaven. Now don't tell me I can't prove myself because your argument is IF there was a God, we are not discussing his existence, we are discussing his justice.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Why is this a dispute to my post ?
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Yes, God has to have this wrath. God is a jealous God and wants no God before man except Him. It's surely worth it - to sacrifice living in idolatry and to be obedient to the Almighty for eternity with Him where there will be no more hurting, no more pain. He doesn't starve children, all of this is a result of man's free will and much of it is a result of the enemy being able to dictate man's life. As far as disease, we may not always understand each and every thing, one thing is for sure - God's plan is always best. I don't turn a blind eye to anything and I used to battle with the very same questions. I prayed and still pray for more wisdom. If you only read the Bible, all the wisdom is there. Prayer is essential as God will draw closer to those who pray. The horrendous crimes you speak of are committed by those whom are demon possessed or opressed. It has nothing to do with God. He doesn't allow any evil, he gave us free will. We can choose to live obedient to Him or to follow the plan of satan. We will all give account for what our choices in life are. We can be forgiven if we repent - which means to turn away from sin. Yes, we may stumble but God knows your heart. As far as what you say about the child something may have happened to, well - satan is the god of the air here. Perhaps you should hold him accountable for much of this evil. God is merciful and always will be. You didn't say anything I didn't want to hear.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Fair point. However i wish your God could give us proof. If he wants us all to belive in him, then he should give us proof.And its not a thing about beliving without reason. Its a thing about, if he loves us all so much then why cant he do something to show us.And God doesnt have to be jealous about other God's he just needs to prove to everyone that he is the only one.Millions of people would convert. So if he doesnt exist then why doesn't he do it ?
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

He has given you truth. You just reject it and allow the enemy to control your choices. Being a Christian requires sacrifice and that means turning away from much that the world loves such as pre-marital sex, gluttony, greed, etc. You must be open to receiving the Words of the Bible into your heart. Having faith is a choice and not a feeling. He doesn't have to give you proof though if He doesn't want to. God's plan is simple if you just accept He is Lord. In my personal testimony, I was just as hard headed as you. It wasn't until I faced death that I realized Jesus was really real and that's a separate story. I am here and praying that there are people out there who won't be as hard headed as I was. No, He doesn't have to be jealous but He is. He is going to give you all another chance but you must remember what I am telling you. You take a chance with doing it this way because you may not be here when the anti-christ returns. But if you are here when the anti-christ come to reign, many Christians and sinners alike will fall for this anti-christ as he will be miraculous and beautiful. There is a major contrast in how the anti-christ will come and how Jesus' return will be. Remember this, the anti-christ will walk the earth. Jesus will call up on in the air and the rapture will being. Then the 7 years of tribulation will begin. For those who are in tribulation, it will be hard times. It's all very complicated but the one main concept required is just having unseen faith- yes, unseen faith and believing in Him. Take that first step, hand it all over to Jesus and let Him move in your life.
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect and fear, Ephesians 6:5
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Christianity

Which question is that now? The debate title assumes that Christianity is the opposite to Atheism, I'm sure there's a few Muslims, Jews, Hindus, etc, that would disagree.I can't believe you are asking me what question I am asking. No other person had a hard time understanding my debate question. Please refer to the debate question. This topic is between atheists and Christians. I could write a separate topic between Christians and Muslims, etc. Please stay on topic here.Why?Just take this simple test. http://ecclesia.org/truth/atheist.htmlYou are pulling it out and attempting to.Christianity has already failed the test of time, logic has won.Christianity has and will stand the test of time as your "logic" will be crying out to God to give you one more chance. Get yourself right with God now before it's too late.So now you are saying scientists will always make an error. Of course they will, because they are humans. But Jesus Christ makes no mistake. As far as your earth theorist comment, that just gave me the best morning chuckle and I thank you for that.Which prophecies are being fulfilled?"Here is a link with just ten of the most recent. http://www.therefinersfire.org/recent_prophecy.htm
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

this is my big problem with christianity: why is it about belief. there have been horrible people who are believers. what about wonderful people who do great things for the world and are atheists. is it fair to punish them for not knowing what the nature od reality is??? I AM an atheist and im a good person. the idea that a mere belief difference can seal ones fate is beyond preposterous, its madness!!
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

god aint flipppin real, so get over it u dumb belivers of god
Debate: Christianity or Atheism?
Side: Atheism

christians are also fun to lawl at because they waste half of their sunday going to church. What a waste!!!! HAHAHA