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Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

I think Jefferson left a enduring vision on america because he had a deep faith in the people who where farmers which is better them Hamiltion becauase he wanted the rich to run the country. Being/ coming from a rich family doesnt mean you cant do what. Jefferaon also wanted to lower the voting qualifications which is good because that means every one can vote, unliked Hamiltion who wants tonraise it to where itbwoukd be harder to vote for some people. Granted Jefferson wanted a week government which is okay but not the best at times but its better then what Hamiltion wanted he wanted the rich to help run. Jefferson wanted a Democratic government so people would be abke to vote who they wanted to be President, un like Hamilton wanted a rulerbto be slected and until they passed away or something a newnone would be elected or one would be elected from the family. The only that i would change about Jefferson is that we do need banks for the farmers to be able to buy land, and that is what Hamilton wantes. Jefferson wants to go by the Consitition and that can be good and sometimes bad too, and with Hamilton we have the bill of rights to protect people if needed. Jefferson belives that we as people should have individual laws which is good because if anything happens to us we have the law as a back up. Granted freedom speech should sometimes be restricted because people should think before they speak, but freedom of speechis a part of the Bill of Rights. I think Jefferson left a enduring vision on america because he inspired furture generations, favored the consitiution.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

In the world we live in today is very different then it was a long time ago. And along time ago there where to very important people. There was Thomas Jefferson and Alexander Hamilton. They where candidates that wanted the best for the country. Thomas J. wanted a bill of rights that was very important for him and for others. Thomas also told Madison about the bill of rights and then Madison made a proposal for the Bill Of Rights in 1791. One thing that Thomas wrote was that every man is created equal. He also made a Louisiana purchase. He had faith in common people and farmers unlike Hamilton that only wanted the rich and educated people. Thomas also wanted to lower the qualifications on voting so common people can vote. He also wanted for the individuals to be protected by laws. In the other had Alexander was very different that T.J. He made very good accomplishments by the age of 26. He went on and wrote the Federation Papers. He also was in favor of a Strong Virginian Government. He wanted to increase the number of Federal employees. Alexander wanted for individuals liberties such as freedom of speech should sometimes be restricted. That means that people would not be able to say what they want to say. He also wanted for America to support the British against the French. But the French where our alies. Over all I think the best candidate for this is Thomas Jefferson because he wants the best and this will be accomplished by all the things he wants. To expand everything to common people not just rich.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

Drina Christensen 5th period Gorman I chose Thomas Jefferson because though he may have not have lived by his writings his ideas referring to the future of the united states helped use grow. The Bill of Rights is the first ten amendments to the constitution that brings us the rights that we have today, as we all know, but what you may not know or acknowledge is that Jefferson demanded for The Bill of Rights to be added to the constitution. When Jefferson wrote the Deceleration of Independence, it wasn't required to mention that all men were created equally and have unalienable rights that they hold as a human. you should thank Jefferson for the rights that you have today.Jefferson had many views regarding the future of our nation like that the government should be split up into 3 branches like we have today. He also believed that the president should have term limits. We may all be aware of the Lewis and Clark expedition, this expedition helped us settle in the new land that was bought by Jefferson. Now you may be thinking what does this have to do with Jefferson, well at this time Jefferson was the president of the U.S. and sent Lewis and Clark on this journey. Over all I think that Thomas Jefferson had a better vision on the structure of the government though Hamilton had better insight on the economy i feel that even if our country had great economy we would still fall under war without the structure of the government that Jefferson in visioned. This is why my vote goes to Thomas Jefferson!
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

Thomas Jefferson would be a match for America because he wanted a democratic government, lower voting qualifications and wanted to eliminate internal taxes and to pay off war debts. Jefferson had some things that America did not agree with but overall would be a better match then Alexander Hamilton.Thomas Jefferson favored a democratic government which is also the government that America saw in it's future. America felt that a strong democratic government was exactly what this young nation needed to get on it's feet. Hamilton favored a government based off of Britain. Even though Jefferson would've liked a weak central government America found a balance between a state government and a central government.Jefferson also wanted to lower voting qualifications. Jefferson felt that every one should have a Voice in who runs the country. He wanted more people like women and African Americans to have more of a voice. America felt that they should have more of voice but that there should also be some restrictions to how far and what they have a voice in. In the long run this will create a little less arguments between men, women and Africans about equality.Thomas Jefferson believed in a debt free nation. He wanted to eliminate internal taxes in the states and he wanted to pay of any U.S debt. He did not believe in taxing the farmers and citizens on things that they may grow or build. He wanted to pay off the war debt from the war with Britain. He wanted to get rid of the debt instead of it building up and coming back to haunt America in the future. Hamilton believed that debt would create good credit for the future America.He felt that having a debt would create problems in the near future. Jefferson wanted no more debt or internal taxes, lower voting qualifications for more equality and he wanted a democratic government. There are so many other things that Jefferson had that were qualities that America wanted but this are just some. This is why Thomas Jefferson would be a great match for the future America.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

Carleigh i really agree with you about the combination of economy which has really helped with our economy today.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

I love how you brought in outside information that I hadn't known. It is obvious you put a lot of thought and effort into making it as great at this is, and even though I think Jefferson is the best fit for America, this made me do a double take. Well done.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

I agree you with you. I love how you said that we live in a Hamilton city
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

I loved your essay's quality as well as quantity, the work and time you spent on it is clearly visible.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

Well put, you were able to put all your reasoning out there very effectively.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

I am pleasantly surprised by the amount of efficiency and work put into this! Especially love the citations, which prove your views and facts true to the point. Good Work!
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

Think of our world today, but everyone lived on a farm. You had to get up five in the morning, maybe work in the fields with your dad for a few hours before heading off to school. Then once you get home it’s back to the fields. After dinner you do homework and head off to bed. The next day is the very same. Doesn't sound fun, now does it? That is the world Jefferson envisioned for us. Now think of the world you live in now. We create and make products. You go to school and learn how to build things. This is Hamilton’s vision that we are living. Hamilton wanted this country to manufacture it’s own goods and he wanted us to have a strong military. If I look around now, I see many companies creating new technology and I see America as a military superpower. We live in Hamilton's world. Hamilton wanted industry, he believed that a nation could not become modern without it. With his influence, the “Industrial Revolution” began. Factories were taking over and creating all different kinds of goods. More people got jobs and more jobs means more goods for everyone. Today, we still make goods. Those American Eagle jeans you’re wearing? They were made here. Without Hamilton, you probably would not be wearing them.Hamilton saw a bloody war with his own eyes. He fought beside Washington in the Revolution and saw just how brutal humans could be. He did not completely trust everyone and tried to raise voting standards. Hamilton helped fight for our freedom and he wants to keep it. He does not want some country to take it away. He helped set up the military that protects America now.To end my argument I want to point out that both men have suitable qualities for governing this country. While Jefferson may have been more fair to the people, Hamilton got America where it needed to be.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

I agree, people who would always work in the farms would not follow with the way jefferson believed people should live
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

I can see where you are coming from, but I disagree with the fact that everyone would be a farmer in a farmers world. I think agriculture would be a big part, but if we had more farms in the U.S. Would that be so bad? Wouldn't it be better to have fresh produce then things imported from all over the world covered in chemicals?
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

All food is covered in chemicals. Farming without pesticides is difficult and dangerous.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

I agree, not only is it a more efficient way of producing agriculture, but the chemicals that can be harmful to humans, are either in proportions to small to matter, or are taken of during the process of getting the produce from farms, to our tables.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

Elisabeth, you said that you don't think we would all be farmers, but you never say why, you do just the opposite and state why it wouldn't be so bad if we WERE all farmers. Do you have any evidence that would support your belief that in Jeffersonian world we wouldn't all be farmers?
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

I agree. I like how you added that he fought beside Washington at war.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

I see where your coming from but you have to think about even though we live in Hamiltons vison in some things like manufacturing goods, present day our world is trying to come up with ways to stop pollution and things like that because it is killing our planet. Jefferson did not want these problems to begin with.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

This is SUCH a great argument! Honestly this makes me really think about my choice towards Jefferson. But, i still believe if we lived fully in a Hamilton world without care for the people i feel the people would have another revoultion because they wouldnt want to be under control without any word again. But, Hamilton was very right about factories, and manufactreing. well done.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

Kate, love the intro, well put way to compare and contrast.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

I like how you clarified both sides and then compared and contrasted both.I am on board the Hamilton train.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

The philosophies and ideals of Alexander Hamilton obviously left a more enduring vision for America. Through his notions of a strong central government, a balanced economy of not just agriculture, and his vision of equality the legacy of Alexander Hamilton still lives on today. Though many may not know his name or his share in building this nation, we sure have a lot to thank him for.Hamilton's view for a strong central government was vital for the success of the new country, and for that we can be thankful that our country is still around today and wasn't demolished shortly after its inception. A stronger federal government tasked to collect more taxes was greatly needed to support a larger military in order to protect against the threats of foreign nations. Along with a larger military, Hamilton envisioned a government that would fix the many flaws of the previous Articles of Confederation. Hamilton felt that the United States government needed the ability to issue currency and to negotiate interstate commerce, two things the Articles of Confederation unfortunately lacked, as well as again the ability to collect larger revenues. Without these three things we likely wouldn't have grown into the power we are today.Now we must thank Alexander Hamilton for the fact that we live in a nation not dependent solely on agriculture, but also based on trade, business, and manufacturing. When he became Secretary of the Treasury he tasked himself with paying off our debts remaining from the Revolutionary War to make sure we didn't lose respect here at home or abroad so early. In order to expand the economy, and in turn increase the overall wealth of the nation he knew the federal government needed to promote business, manufacturing, and trade. We can easily see today this envisioned balanced economy: agriculture is still a cornerstone of our economy; business is everywhere providing almost any service you can think of, manufacturing plays a key role in producing goods mot only for us but for many people abroad, and trade helps us fulfill the potential of these other three areas.Some would say that Thomas Jefferson would excel in the area of equality for all peoples, but we have plenty of evidence to show that's untrue. Of the two, Hamilton was the one who really supported the idea that all men are created equal. Jefferson owned over 200 slaves, while Hamilton was a proud abolitionist. Hamilton stood for those in all realms of the public sphere, not just farmers and those involved with agriculture. He stood up not just for farmers, but also for soldiers, factory workers, and slaves. Hamilton also believed in a government that protected the civil rights of all citizens. Jefferson may have been a strong proponent of religious freedom, but a quote from Hamilton reads, “There can be no truer principle than this — that every individual of the community at large has an equal right to the protection of government.”
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

I agree with and like how you stated Hamilton's view of a strong government and his reasons for wanting one.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

I agree Thomas Jefferson really didn't support that all men are equal.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

I agree Alex Hamilton left a more enduring vision for America.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

I agree completely with you Carrie, you did a great job explaining all of your reasons! Well done.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

Hunter, I like your argument and extra back ground on Hamilton. However, I do believe in the debate we watched that it said Hamilton's economy, although a great idea, had little impact at the time.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

I completely agree with you on the fact that Hamilton's beliefs didn't have the biggest impact at the time, but the thing in question here is who's vision is the most enduring, and the vision that has been relevant for the longest is definitely Hamilton's
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Thomas Jefferson

Exactly, if you look at our economy, society, and culture, you can see most of Hamilton's ideals
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

America is a place where innovation, freedom, and strong economy is key the to success. As Americans, we often take our good fortune for granted; we forget that there were people who shaped our lifestyles into what they are today. Alexander Hamilton took America and formed the unified country we see today. Hamilton viewed our country as a place where industry, investment, and expanded commerce triumphed agrarian life. His views of the economy, slavery, and the Constitution are all reasons why I think he left the most enduring vision of America. Alexander Hamilton opposed Jefferson's views of an agrarian economy. Jefferson saw the industrial cities and believed that it would discourage that agrarian way of life, but Hamilton saw them as a way to give people a choice of career. He felt that the economy needed to grow into something bigger than what Jefferson saw, that we needed to find a way to become more than an agricultural society. Though he felt that we needed more than cultivation to have a booming society, he didn't put down the agrarian way of life, as Jefferson did with industrialism. He also promoted the National Bank, which would regulate expenses. He wanted to keep internal taxes and use debt as a way to establish credit, which are both things that our economy use today and are based on. Slavery put down his view of economy, so he fought against it.Slavery was a big problem in America, even though most people didn't see it. Alexander Hamilton did see it, though. As a child, he spent much time around wealthy slave owners, so he saw the brutality and abandonment that it brought. He realized the problem and fought to fix it, unlike Jefferson, who owned slaves himself. Hamilton played a direct role in abolishing slavery in the north. He felt that African Americans could make a better life for themselves with proper education and training. He believed that all people were equal in their physical and mental attributes, so there was no reason to have slaves. The Constitution was a topic of much controversy in America. Alexander Hamilton was a big part of pulling it together. He pulled everyone together for the Constitutional Convention; he wrote the Federalist Papers promoting the Constitution, and he got New York to ratify. Without his contributions, there would be nothing keeping our country as a union with a strong national government. His contribution in writing the Federalist Papers made all the difference in changing the anti-federalist states' minds. Without him, New York may not have ever ratified, and then where would we be? He was a major part in securing the destiny of this country.Hamilton's views shaped the economy, the Constitution, and slavery and left the most enduring vision of America.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

I completely agree with everything you wrote! Hamilton was an absolutely crucial part to ratifying the constitution and without him we would not be where we are today.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

Social classes play a huge role in government today. People who are wealthier tend to know more about how the government works. It is easier for them to move up to higher federal positions and make important, educated decisions. Hamilton recognized this and incorporated it into his belief system. He believed that the "common people often acted foolishly and that the rich, educated, and well born should run the country", and while i don't think that the common people can't work their way up the social classes just as Hamilton did, I do agree that well educated people make better, smarter decisions.Many people may disagree with Hamilton's ideas on individual liberties being restricted. I think that they are interpreting this idea in the wrong context. I think that he was saying that while we should have freedom of speech, we should not be able to say things that may cause problems for others. For example, you wouldn't want someone to yell 'fire' in a completely safe building and have everyone to evacuate, only to learn there never was a fire. Hamilton wasn't saying that liberties should be restricted, rather than have restrictions.I think that Hamilton's ideas on economy better match our current economic standings than Jefferson's. Hamilton established and supported a National Bank. Having a National Bank allows us to borrow and loan money to other countries, which makes us allies, and also allows us to establish credit. Jefferson wanted our economy to be entirely based off of agriculture, and while many people may argue that Hamilton wanted our economy to be completely industrialized, it is entirely untrue. He did want agriculture to be a source of income, he just didn't want it to be our only source of income. If you look at America today, that is exactly what you see. industry makes up a huge part of our society, but we still largely rely on agriculture.Jefferson may have had more a philanthropic vision of America, but Hamilton's philosophies are what make up our society and culture today.
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

I agree with this, although I agreed with the Jefferson people I think that you make good points and may even change my mind
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

I agree, the people who where smarter would have been better to run the country
Debate: Who had the more enduring vision of the United States? Hamilton or Jefferson?
Side: Alexander Hamilton

I agree with you Allyson about the wealthier people knowing more about government.