azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

Society changed. Hitler was not the government yet. That was the point. Murder is the "unlawful" killing of another being. Unlawful is not morally right. What is morally right is judged by society. Society is the majority of people sharing common ideals. Since he did not commit the murder, there were no victims, therefore it was not in your authority to kill him since he did nothing wrong, yet.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

Society changed.What else does it tell you? Hitler was not the government yet. That was the point.And your point is wrong and irrelevant. In my scenario, he is the government. Before he implemented the plans for the Holocaust, he wad already in the government and the Nazi Party had already gained quite a bit of power. Murder is the "unlawful" killing of another being. Unlawful is not morally right.I didn't argue that it's morally right. I argued that it's not murder. What is morally right is judged by society.Not entirely true. We tend to have different morals on our own. Society is the majority of people sharing common ideals. Since he did not commit the murder, there were no victims, therefore it was not in your authority to kill him since he did nothing wrong, yet.There is such a thing as attempted murder or conspiracy to commit murder. And there would be evidence of that. Even if there wasn't, under your scenario, implying we know what he is guaranteed to do in the future and that I have the power to stop him and no government will give him a fair trial, I'd still kill him provided those conditions.I wouldn't like that I did not have evidence to show others however.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

Society does not determine morals, morals are, in essence, kind or unkind, generous or selfish.killing someone if there is no other option is basically realizing that sometimes, it is impossible to do the morally right thing.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

Yes, because, let's say, and this is just a hypothetical situation, that some dude (A) was trying to kill another dude. (B) And B killed A simply because it was, in that situation, the only way to save his own life. Then I think the killing was justified, and B should not be imprisoned, since he had no intent to murder and it was simply in self defence. But killing 'just because' isn't justified. Thought out murder, or setting out with the intention of killing someone is never justified.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

Yeah... what that shadowy character said.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

To kill is not needed to use self defense. To defend yourself from harms way is not the same as killing another just to protect yourself. Has their even been a case where you had to kill someone so you wouldn't get killed? If so please tell, and i will give a reason why killing the person in that "case" was not necessary.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

Fuck that! If they're trying to kill me... I'll kill them!
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

Well then, that is still no justified. That means you want to kill them because you are killing them. That is not self-defense. That is blood lust.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

Bullshit! If they're trying to kill me, why risk trying to just harm them? That's just stupidity! Kill them or risk being killed.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

If you got them unconscious, then you would not risk being killed. Therefore, you have not killed, and neither will you be killed.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

Nope! No time to figure out a way to get them unconscious... kill or be killed! To suggest that there is never a circumstance where they need to just be killed is foolish.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

If you have time to be able to know how to kill another, that means that you are capable of making one go unconscious, since it takes time and processing skills to do both. And it would not be foolish, since you are proving your point. If you suggested a circumstance where there would be a need to kill, then I would no longer try to disprove you, since I cannot disprove you.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

if someone kills my childIf someone tries to kill me, ill just be like, peace man, peace, hit this joint! jk, if someone tried to kill me i would just try to maim and cripple them and runaway
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

You said maim and cripple them then runaway. You are not killing them.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

i know i gave my case for justified killing right before that
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

If someone killed your child and you killed them, would you not be arrested? therefore by society, it is deemed murder.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

society can suck my  i am not a part of society, i am, but im not, not in the least bit
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

However society pertains to the most common ideal. Since that is so, your reasoning does not matter, you will go to jail, and probably end up being raped and sucking another guy's... well I disproved your reasoning with logic. I have no further reason to continue rambling on.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

thats not logic thats just conformity
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

Logic: a science that deals with the principles and criteria of validity of inference and demonstration. Principles: an accepted or professed rule of action or conduct. The people who accept it is society. Society would deem vengeance as a means of killing unjust, therefore, it would go against the principle that killing one for vengeance is not justifiable, ergo illogical. So it was proven through logic, not just conformity. Well it's both, but still.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

its not vengeance, revenge is not a valid motivation, its an emotional response, no not vengeance.... punishment.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

That does not mean it is justified. |
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

If someone tries to kill you and you get a chance to kill them.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

Why would you need to kill them? In what way is it necessary to kill them. If they won't stop attacking you, then use a different way to get them to stop. A man may not attack another on his own will if he is unconscious.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

A man cannot attack another man if he is dead. Also how would i knock someone unconscious if i can only attack his throat?
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

There is no place in this world for murderous scum.If you are a person who is trying to murder me, a person who is normally nonviolent and a pacifist, then you are probably a very bad person. I would not feel bad killing that person if they were attacking me to try to kill me.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

To kill someone without feeling bad or guilty would be unlawful, therefore you have committed Murder and now you are the scum.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

So? Who cares. I defended my life from someone who would attack me. I see nothing wrong with that.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

Of course, you kill them and loot their items from their corpse to use on your adventures!*But alright, jokes aside, I think killing is only justifiable in the case of self defense in whence that if you did not kill them, you would be killed.Otherwise though, I think it's totally unjustifiable.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

However, there is never an instance where you cannot possibly live unless you kill.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

That would be the case, if every human being was a masterful warrior who was trained from birth how to disabled people without killing them in combat.But that is not the case. Especially so in these days of extremely advanced weaponry.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

If we are capable of killing, we are capable of disarming or rendering them incapable of harming us.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

No, we are not, necessarily. Killing is much easier then disabling and incapacitating. One is a reflex. The other requires education.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

Killing is easier. Killing is not necessary then. The other is simply harder, though a better decision
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

I don't think you understand. It would be a better decision, if it were a decision that could even be made. But unless you are educated to be able to masterfully disable people in every instance of violence, you will not know how to disable people a lot of time.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

There is always a possible decision, otherwise, you wouldn't have killed him.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

ಠ_ಠ How many times must I repeat myself?If you are not educated enough to know how to disable someone, it is not an option. You cannot magically do things you don't know how to do.How do you not understand this?
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

Of course, in the protection of life, killing is justified. Everyone has the right to defend their own life.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

They have the right to defend themself, however killing the person endangering you is not necessary.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

Actually, killing is necessary because if someone approaches you with aggression, what else there is to meet that aggression with aggression, and if it death, I rather be the one still living; therefore, I am going to use whatever aggression is necessary.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

although to protect one's life, killing is not necessary. Can you guys read the first comment in the No area? It already disproves that self defense is not a reason.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

Killing justified when it is spoken about bad things. So, God can kill bad people in order to stop the growth or because of His holiness.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

Self-defense would be a valid reason since it concerns a life and death situation. In that scenario, the aggressive individual is the one subject to restriction under the law since murder or any such attempts are prohibited under the law. So the act before physical contact is in itself a violation of the law. Thus the defensive person has every right to maintain its lie by any means necessary.Another would be by mercy killing. In the event that a person is incapacitated and has no chance of surviving, it is recommended that the person is killed at once by painless means as to avoid suffering. Euthanasia is legal so it is justified.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

yeah sure, for example:protecting yourself OR police have the rights to kill any criminal that chose to ran
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

If a person has caused harm to anyone else, and are most likely going to repeat the crime in the future, then they should be put on the death penalty. Yes, it would probably be worse for the criminal if they rot in prison, but wouldn't it be better for the victim knowing that the man/woman will never escape again? Killing is justified under the right circumstances.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

a very good answer
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

Under the right circumstances
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

Yes like self defence. That would be a VERY common answer
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

OR when you want to stop a criminal (I do not see how a gun is needed)
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

Yes. War.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

Yes. Self defense. If you say no, if you are pregnant and you see a man coming to you with a knife and his * hanging out of his pants, and you happen to have a gun, would you shoot him if he doesn't stop coming towards you?
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

There is also the Moral Imperative, in which case you would sacrifice one life to save two, etc.Put another way, there is a pram with a baby on the railway track. There is equally a blind man. Which one do you save? Through inaction for the other one, they are being killed, by you.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

If someone broke into my house and was planning on seriously harming myself or my family then I will do what it takes to protect my life and families. If that means kill them, then yes but that would be the last resort. As for the death penalty I don't agree with that, because by killing that person you are answering murder with murder. I am a firm believer that peoples lives can change in prison, by killing them is not giving them the opportunity to do so. God can change their life and make them repent greatly for what they've done, furthermore giving them the opportunity to be with Jesus in the end. That is what is most important.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

You are not answering murder with murder but with equal punishment. Why give them the wonderful option of fixing their life when they ended someone elses. Peoples hardworking money should not be applied to feed,house, or support a murder. Murderer deprived the victim of the ability to think,feel, and live in this wonderful world. Murder should be punished for the same
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

Self-defence and retaliation (for example, against unrepentant serial killers or aggressor countries).
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

If someone comes in my house with a gun, I'm not going to take the chance of letting them shoot me.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

In War and in the law.--
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

If you are being hunted down by enemies that will not stop until they kill you, then I would say so. Kill them bastards good. yeeehaw
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

Personally, I believe that there is no justifiable way to kill another. The definition of murder is : to unlawfully kill another. The definition of kill is : To deprive one of life. To deprive a person of life is considered immoral. If one were to kill another in war, the person's family is sad. Many may be depressed to the point of ending their life. There is a chain reaction of death. Essentially, the man who killed the other in war has killed all of them. This is murder, since the family was not associated with war and therefore was killed unlawfully. This is mass murder, and in society, mass murder is not justifiable by any means. Another example is when you are being mugged. The mugger may attempt to kill you, however by self defense you kill them. Their reason for attempting to kill you was unjust, however many may see you killing the person to be justifiable. However, you are at fault still, because death is not necessary. It is possible to avoid death without creating death. This is proven, since many people have been mugged yet are still alive, and the mugger is in jail or simply escaped. Even if the mugger was killed by you, this may be considered unlawfully killing since the attacker may have people saddened or affected by his death. It may only be a possibility that people are saddened by his death, but it is still highly probable.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

what if someone killed your children? If an animal kills another animals cub, that animal will get hunted down.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

That is avenging ones precious people. It is not justifiable, since one would get arrested if one used that as a means to kill another. Human society is considered more advanced compared to the way animals think. Comparing us to animals will not work since our own logic is different.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

So youre saying a grown man who knows between right and wrong aimlessly murdering a child should not be given death? I say its a fair trade off, killing an innocent person who has never experienced life
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

He may be deserving of death, but he will not be given death, since killing him is doing the same thing as him killing another, and so you are the same as him. A murderer.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

look, im not for killing anyone at all, but under said circumstances, is the only scenario in which i would killUnless, of course, we are talking contract killing, killing corrupt individuals who are harming society as a whole
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

That is still not JUSTIFIED. That was the whole point of the argument. Whether or not it may be justified.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

What are you talking about? Animals do not practice vengeance--only self defense or defense of the young.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

What about self-defense?
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

I explained how self defense would not be justified as a means to kill another in my comment.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

Self defense is, to me, the only justifiable premise on which to kill, or, the defense of the lives of others. Seeing as you are stating that it is absolutely against your own moral code to kill, allow me to suggest a situation.Bear in mind, this situation is ridiculous, but when absolutes are stated, this kind of hypothesis is permitted.Say, you find yourself holding a loaded gun, twenty yards away from another man, who is also holding a gun. The man is brandishing the weapon at a large crowd of young children who are completely defenseless. Here's the dilemma: You are 100% certain that he is going to pull the trigger and start killing the children. (bear with me here)You have time to do nothing else but shoot him. You do not have time to run at him, and the only viable option is to fire first, and realistically, you aim for his centre of mass - this is extremely likely to kill him. Do you fire?I would. I think it is arguable that the lesser evil is to kill him, otherwise you permit him to slaughter innocent children. This is one of the only situations in which I would propose killing to be acceptable, but what are your thoughts?
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

You speak of the question of murder, which is not the intention of this debate. Murder (taking a life unlawfully) is wrong, yes. How is it wrong? If everyone were to murder at the same time, there would be no one left to murder, therefore no one left to make the idea of murder understandable. This makes murder morally impermissible. Killing, however, by means of self defense is rather ethical indeed. Here's how:1. If an agent should be taken into a situation in which their life is threatened, the one who had taken this agent into the situation has the intent of causing harm2. someone of this intent is most likely to commit this crime multiple times3. then, leaving this person with their life will quite possibly cause the loss of others' innocent lives. 4. Ergo, defending yourself is actually the most ethical path hereIt is basic utilitarianism, look at how many people this particular agent may kill if left un-checked as opposed to the life of one murderer.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

No one so far has found an error in my logic. I referred to society many times, however my ideals go against society. I disproved your ideals with my logic going against society, however I used society to support my ideals. If you all had realized this, I wouldn't have been arguing with you guys for the past few hours. Have fun!!
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

WHAT? what if you are police and your order was to kill a murderer ?
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

LOL pwned
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

Excuse me, but you show a shocking lack of knowledge of the justice system. Police are not "ordered" to kill murderers. The only entity permitted to "kill" murderers is the state--after a conviction after a trial. And many appeals. Police are "ordered" to apprehend suspects.I know what you meant, but really--just basic knowledge about how things work under our Constitution would be quite refreshing....
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

Then society deemed that justified, since society ordered the killing.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

You can't disprove ideals, they're opinions, not facts.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

Justified? No. However, that is not to say I would not resort to it in a severe situation.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: Yes

Wait, so, you would resort to something you don't think can be justified? Apparently, you would do something you didn't think was right. Doesn't that go against your own argument? ChuckHades, WHICH SIDE ARE YOU ON?
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

0.o 0.o
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

I don't think so. I understand why other people do it (to an extent...) but for me personally, I would never be able to draw a blade to another human being. That's strictly a metaphor: I'm also anti death penalty, etc.
Debate: Is there a way killing is justified?
Side: No

Killing is never justified. It is wrong and no excuse for it.
Debate: Is there God?
Side: Yes

I believe that some high power is up there. If its God then I don't have a problem with that. I don't know of anything that blatantly disproves him.
Debate: Is there God?
Side: No

Does Allah exist? Does Odin exist? Does Asgard even exist? Does Satan exist? How would you know? How would you know if Valhalla existed?
Debate: Is there God?
Side: Yes

And how do you know science is always correct or if evolution is true. See we got proof I can even show you some links
Debate: Is there God?
Side: No

Show me your links of your proof then.
Debate: Is there God?
Side: Yes

http://www.everystudent.com/features/isthere.html There it is easy as 123
Debate: Is there God?
Side: No

None of that proved which version of God is the right one. Neither did it explain how God itself exists nor why we can't have evolved eyes.
Debate: Is there God?
Side: No

Way to totes steal what I have already said. That so original and petty. So basic. Believe whatever you wish. Either of them could be true.
Debate: Is there God?
Side: No

If either could be true, why post on only one side?
Debate: Is there God?
Side: Yes

If it is possible that a being exists then I would call it "God". Others may call it whatever they wish.
Debate: Is there God?
Side: Yes

Using theism, all of those equates to the same thing.God, Heaven, Hell and Prophets.
Debate: Is there God?
Side: No

Dont speak to me until you use an argument that you actually thought of. Otherwise you are totes wasting my time.
Debate: Is there God?
Side: Yes

Oh the Irony
Debate: Is there God?
Side: Yes

He is as real as my 28 inched cock.
Debate: Is there God?
Side: No

We all know that's not even half the truth.
Debate: Is there God?
Side: Yes

HAHA! JEALOUS? :O
Debate: Is there God?
Side: Yes

Yes.
Debate: Is there God?
Side: No

Why?
Debate: Is there God?
Side: Yes

Why what?
Debate: Is there God?
Side: No

Why would God exist? Why are you so sure that he does?
Debate: Is there God?
Side: Yes

Because 0+0 =/= 1