azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God doesn't exists

Your knowledge of Thermodynamics is very limited. 1st law of TD:The increase in internal energy of a closed system is equal to difference of the heat supplied to the system and the work done by it: ΔU = Q - W2nd law of TDHeat cannot spontaneously flow from a colder location to a hotter location.3rd law of TDAs a system approaches absolute zero the entropy of the system approaches a minimum value.Zeroth law of TD If two systems are each in thermal equilibrium with a third, they are also in thermal equilibrium with each other.How did you found out that Earth is a closed system?How did you calculate equilibrium-entropy from whole universe?
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

You have still not rebutted the argument.If you would like to dispute the logic, bring it up with Dr. Cimbalahttp://www.personal.psu.edu/jmc6/second_law.html
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God doesn't exists

TD is no a matter of opinion You cannot screw it to make it fit into your insane belief.It's like a mathematics 2+2=4 not 6 nor 4.08, you cannot argue or hope in compromise!
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God doesn't exists

Correct me if I'm wrong here, but don't the laws of physics break down at the big bang singularity? I mean, at some point if you trace it back far enough you have to divide energy by zero area to calculate the density of the early universe. this is impossible mathematically. How can we hold to the laws of thermodynamics when math doesn't even work?Additionally, this is obvious psuedo-science and not real science. The goal is to prove what is already held to be true aka that there is a god, and I'm pretty sure science doesn't work by assuming the conclusion and working backwards.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

Well based on that logic then uniformitarianism is not true. Uniformitarianism is the basis for the evidence for evolution. Therefore, the basis for the evidence for evolution has no backing.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God doesn't exists

You're correct. Uniformitarianism may not be true AT THE MOMENT of the big bang. I do not dispute that. Evolution occurred many billions of years AFTER the big bang.I could be wrong about the laws of physics or whatever breaking down. The math just doesn't make sense. You simply cannot divide by zero. So, trying to trace your logic back, I get to a point where I have to do something completely impossible like divide by zero, and at that point I have to throw up my hands and say... 'listen, I really don't have a clue what is going on here' If i can't trust math anymore, I'm certainly not going to trust any of the laws of thermodynamics.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

And if you can make an exception to uniformitarianism then it is no longer uniformitarianism. This means that the entire basis for all of science is now gone and it is no way trustworthy. Therefore, the basis of my argument, the basis for evolution, the basis for thermodynamics, the basis for quantum mechanics, and the basis for astronomy are all unknown for we have no ability to understand it.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God doesn't exists

[i]And if you can make an exception to uniformitarianism then it is no longer uniformitarianism.[/i] Why can't it be uniform for 15 billion years and simply non-existent for everything before that? Even saying "before" in this case doesn't make sense if space-time does not exist. Our laws of physics are about how energy behaves in space-time. If there is no space-time, there are no laws of physics.Don't take my word on it though. This is a quote from a lecture delivered by Stephen Hawking in 1996. "At this time, the Big Bang, all the matter in the universe, would have been on top of itself. The density would have been infinite. It would have been what is called, a singularity. At a singularity, all the laws of physics would have broken down. This means that the state of the universe, after the Big Bang, will not depend on anything that may have happened before, because the deterministic laws that govern the universe will break down in the Big Bang. The universe will evolve from the Big Bang, completely independently of what it was like before. Even the amount of matter in the universe, can be different to what it was before the Big Bang, as the Law of Conservation of Matter, will break down at the Big Bang. "http://www.hawking.org.uk/the-beginning-of-time.html He's devoted his life to studying cosmology. I'm just a dumb fuck with a computer. Let's take his word on it.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God doesn't exists

TD laws are only for slow moving small things, do not work with quantum theory and relativity.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

You'd think with the number of people asking this all the time, the answer would already be known. sighAccording to what I believe, yes. However, there are other people who think not and have valid reasons, so yah.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

Hmm. I as a religious person, I'd say that was a pretty good answer :L
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God doesn't exists

Sorry, that sounded wrong. No I meant, bookbird being a religious person gave a good answer. I'm not religious!
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

Anyone seen the documentary "A Case for the Creator?" Doesn't necessarily explain that God exists but it grabs all elements in science and new discoveries and theories, puts them all together to show that in every new discovery there is a link that we were created by someone, I personally believe that God exists just by looking outside and knowing that elements in nature cannot form themselves together like that, researching into evolution they find major flaws in that there is no link to an original ancestor that has been proven, in every attempt know to show that the bible contradicts itself, or to show that certain events stated in the bible are false, every attempt has failed, God exists, that's for certain
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

What is the problem with there being a god or gods existent anyways? Why are people so upset and hurt and angry that there are people that do believe in X, Y, Z god (s)?
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

This is an interesting question. Here is one of the problems I have with god existing:To believe in god requires faith. For many people this faith is "blind" in that they don't inquire in to the deeper meaning/consequences of god and abandon rational thought. Not everyone, some people. So now I have to live (on the planet) with fellow men who would believe in something on faith alone and abandon rational thought. This fine IF that man is "kind". But, what if that man is not "kind"? What if that man feels perfectly justified walking up to a your girl and shooting her because she wants education for herself and other your girls (the Taliban, Muslim fundamentalists, have done this recently). This is very very scary that "blind faith" allows a person to feel justified to do this.Now of course this is not to say that because you believe in god you are going to do bad things, not at all. There are many good and wonderful faithful people in this word (most faithful are good), but for the minority with "unkind" beliefs, faith is very dangerous and scary. Lets take a less extreme example. Let says a person has "faith" that god exists and insists that school children are taught that god does exists (I'm not saying most faithful want this, but some do). Lets say that person becomes president of the united states and is able to force all school children to be taught that god is real. Now this persons "faith" has become my reality (my children are forced to "learn" another person "faith"). While not the same as shooting someone, it's still scary to me. What it that persons "faith" told them that the Aryan race was the "proper" race and all other should be eradicated. Scary.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God doesn't exists

Lets say that person becomes president of the united states and is able to force all school children to be taught that god is real. Now this persons "faith" has become my reality (my children are forced to "learn" another person "faith"). While not the same as shooting someone, it's still scary to me. What it that persons "faith" told them that the Aryan race was the "proper" race and all other should be eradicated. Scary.Just as Hitler had faith in the philosophy of eugenics, which is founded in Social Darwinism, which is founded in evolution, which is founded in supposed evidence for evolution, which is founded in people's interpretation of different variables in the world, which is founded in people's perceptions, which is founded in faith.What you are really saying here is that you do not want your child to be taught anything because if something is founded in faith then it could turn out bad. However, everything is founded in faith, which means that you do not want your child taught anything. OR you simply want your opinion taught and no others because you have faith that yours are correct, which is founded in the ideology of infallibility.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

There is a difference between having faith god exists vs faith that the earth revolves around the sun. I can't prove either is true but the basis of the relation between the earth and the sun is based on experiments, measurements, observations, willingness of the scientist to admit that they could be wrong (this is an important one). I would have no trouble having faith that god exists if that idea could pass all the same scrutiny as other "theories" that I do have faith in.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God doesn't exists

So do you believe in history? If you base truth upon what can be measured, experimented, and observed, then what parts of history do you believe?
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

Well, it depends on the source. We have transcripts, audio, video of recent history, so yes I believe that with a high degree of certainty. But the further you go back the less I believe it 100%. It comes back to evidence. Archeological evidence, is good. Hearsay, myths, etc. is not history that I believe with a high degree of confidence. Also, historians, like scientists, are willing to change their views as new evidence is presented. it's not blind unwavering faith. They can be persuaded to change their view with the correct evidence. You can't persuade a religious fundamentalists no matter what evidence you give them.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

So would you say that Jesus was real?
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

I think it's very possible a man named Jesus lived and did many great things. I don't believe he is the son of god, performed miracles, etc. Jesus as a historical figure in no way supports the existence of god. Like the rest of the bible, stories about Jesus and his miracles are "fables" and metaphors.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

Can I prove to you the divinity of the Bible? If I showed you proof would you worship the God of the Bible?
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

Do you worship the God of the Bible ?
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

I do! Do you?
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

Not necessarily. I believe that there is a possibility that God exists though. Do you believe everything in the Bible?
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

I do believe everything in the Bible.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

How much of the Bible have you read ?
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

I haven't read it all because when I was younger the only real reading I did was for debating, which meant researching a certain topic for a certain time and then applying it. However, when I got older I realized that I needed to sit down and read it so from a bare reading along with analyzing, I have gotten through a bit of the Old Testament but mainly the New.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

Have you read Jeremiah yet ?
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

Bits and pieces, like most of the Old Testament. If you are going to bring up Jeremiah 17:9 the yes, I agree. This is why I try to be careful as to whether I believe or not.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

Jeremiah 8:8“How can you say, ‘We are wise,And the law of the Lord is with us’?Look, the false pen of the scribe certainly works falsehood."
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

What about it?
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

This is a statement made by God where he says that the scribes who are writing the Bible, have written lies.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

This verse is talking about scribes who are not of the Lord. Remember how Jesus said that the scribes and Pharisees were not of the God? Its talking of the same. It can also be talking of scribes who know the law and simply do not translate the truth. There are multiple ways to answer this. I prefer the 1st one.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

Maybe. Maybe not. Neither of us were there to know exactly what they meant. I just know what was written in the Bible.How about in Genesis 1:26...Then God said, “Let us make human beings in our image and likeness. And let them rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the tame animals, over all the earth, and over all the small crawling animals on the earth.”Who was God referring to when he said "us"?
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

This is answered by the trinity.Matthew 28:19Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God doesn't exists

Genesis is the beginning of Old Testament. How come the Trinity isn't acknowledged until New Testament? The word "Trinity" is never even in the Bible.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God doesn't exists

Theologians say that the Old Testament is like a room that has no light in it; the New Testament is the newly illuminated room. Everything was in it all along; however, not until Jesus came could anyone truly see.Regardless, it clearly shows it here. It doesn't matter if it was not mentioned until the New. However, the Bible uses the number 3 multiple times. One such example is "Holy, Holy, Holy" in Isaiah 6:3
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God doesn't exists

No offense, but "holy, holy, holy" is not a good representation of the Trinity. It's just the same word repeated three times.Do you believe in the story of Noah? Do you believe that he got two of every species on his man-made boat?
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God doesn't exists

I do believe in Noah's ark; however, not of every species. It says that every kind was put onto the ark, which denies species. There is 1st level speciation and 2nd level speciation and the Bible only affirms the 2nd one, which is fluctuations of like kinds. One like kind encompasses many species.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God doesn't exists

So you believe bats are birds that the sun revolves around the earth that the earth is flat etc.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

No:Bats being defined as birds is a classification differentiation. Definitions of things change and if they didn't then etymology would be useless.Where in the Bible does it teach that the sun revolves around the earth?
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

"everything is founded in faith"No. If you want to tell me that I have 'faith' in my keyboard, and that I can't prove it exists, then you have no place on a debate site. Perceptions have nothing to do with faith. Faith is the quantum leap to belief in something that we cannot see, smell, touch or taste. Perception then opposes that. Perhaps a dictionary would do you some good?
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God doesn't exists

No. If you want to tell me that I have 'faith' in my keyboard, and that I can't prove it exists, then you have no place on a debate site.1) How do you know it exists? Can your eyes be deceiving you?2) That is to claim infallibility of yourself. Are you infallible?Perceptions have nothing to do with faith. Faith is the quantum leap to belief in something that we cannot see, smell, touch or taste. Perception then opposes that. Perhaps a dictionary would do you some good?1) Perceptions have everything to do with faith. You have no evidence to advocate you ability to perceive things correctly. Do you see things correctly all the time? Are you infallible?2) Faith is trust.3) Don't insult people when you disagree with them.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

You have destroyed any credibility you have by jumping on my keyboard analogy. Because I am a rational person, I can say to myself that it definitely exists, yes. To say "Well, I could be imagining it" is the kind of argument that seems to make you appear to be very deep and intelligent, but in fact it's a rather childish and petty way of scoring points, it is of no real matter.You seem to love the word "infallible", and let's remind ourselves that who is infallible? The Pope, and not me, to answer your question. The evidence I have to advocate my ability to see things correctly is the conjunction of;Hearing what sounds like a keyboard - when -I type on what looks like my keyboard - at the same time as -I physically feel my fingers work that very same keyboard that I can see and hear. If you want to say that this is not enough, then you must assume that no human can know or assume anything whatsoever. It fails me then how you could tolerate the notion of a God, but try and convince me that me keyboard might not be real. That's a new one.Perceptions are what give evidence. If we cannot perceive evidence, how do we know evidence exists? Faith =/= trust. This is quite simply not correct. I trust people on the basis of past experience, I do not have faith wherever I can help it (though sometimes, you have to have faith that McDonald's really served you beef and not something else, etc). The definitions of the two words are absolutely not the same thing, in this point I do implore you to seek a dictionary for clarification.Your style of argument is one I have encountered before. You use absolutes, which forces people to concede, and distracts from the fact that they are not really conceding anything. Telling me that the 99.999% surety with which I state that my keyboard exists; "IS NOT 100% THEREFORE YOU ARE WRONG" is utterly inefficacious in a reasonable debate.To end, I will concede that it was most infantile to insult you. I apologise, and I sincerely state that nothing typed above in this reply is meant to be insulting, my dear Sir, and I do not lie when saying this. Maybe it'll get your blood boiling, but it is not meant as an insult.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

You are claiming yourself to be infallible? That is truly arrogant.Read the part where I said; "Who is infallible? The Pope, and (pay close attention here, please) not me"You directly quoted me saying I'm not infallible... and then stated that I had claimed infallibility.Also, even if I were claiming to be infallible, arrogant is not at all an appropriate word. Disillusioned, egotistical or conceited would have served. I really, really want to buy you a dictionary for Christmas by this point.I think this bit needs a stand-alone line so that you definitely see it:I am not claiming anything to be 100% certain.But Jesus, what in the world is your point? Every sensible human being knows that we can only ever get to 99.99% and the rest is called "being a grown up" and taking the scary, scary leap into saying "My keyboard definitely exists." In the most pedantic of all arguments a human could concoct, you really do manage to say an awful lot without really saying anything. I hate to break it to you but the rest of us chalk it up to 100% for things like keyboards. I concede what you've said but what did you say it for? Where are you going with that, anyway?Do you seriously doubt that when you see a red car - it's red? And that your keyboard might not actually exist? Do you really, really doubt these most basic and pointless of observations? Yours must be a troubled existence, wracked with such self-doubt. I'm pretty certain my keyboard exists (and I am sick of using that absurd example, I assumed you were too intelligent to actually run with it).I have at no point claimed with 100% certainty anything at all. Stop going around in circles with that sentence, please.To finish, you have no need to judge my heart. My heart pumps blood, if I must stoop to your level of pedanticism, my meaningful speech is composed in the left hemisphere of my brain.Now, do you have anything to say that is relevant to the debate on which we are posting? Point out flaws in what I've said that aren't existent by all means but do please mention something worth replying to.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God doesn't exists

Now, do you have anything to say that is relevant to the debate on which we are posting? Point out flaws in what I've said that aren't existent by all means but do please mention something worth replying to.Oh I have a lot to say. However, you are being rude and disrespectful so I will bid you adieu.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

Even as a Catholic, i reconize the importance of the seperation of Church and State. People should not be able to force their beliefs on unwilling people in a decent soceity.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

Scary. It's more or less being cautious of "the-conditioning-of-mankind"; in X, Y, Z societies and cultures. Religion, or rather, this "faith" we speak of a range from "extreme individuals" to "not so extreme individuals" (including various societies/religions/faiths); people do "bad and good things", it's not the persons fault for having faith in anything; it's the peoples "fault" for having free-will and being to choose this or that; resulting in the various "acts of mankind.""Hate the player, not the game."Whereas, the game is life (faith, religion, science), and the players are obviously us, humans and, how we deal with the pieces granted to us from "the game."
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

God exists look around you, creation points to a creator. I have faith there is a God, I also think having faith there is a God is way more simpler, then having faith that we all just boomed into existence, or whatever else desperate scientists try to prove these days.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God doesn't exists

How is constantly pleasing the imaginary bearded man in the sky easier?
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

How is constantly searching and trying to prove there is no God simpler than acknowledging his existence? Many people try to convince themselves there is no God because they want no accountability for their actions.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God doesn't exists

Many people try to convince themselves there is no God because they want no accountability for their actions.No, it's called being honest with yourself. I lack belief in god because there is no evidence a god exists. If there were evidence for him, I'd believe in him. There isn't, so I lack belief. It's that simple, it's not because I'm evil and I hate god and I want to sin or any other fundamentalist nonsense you can come up with. How is constantly searching and trying to prove there is no God simpler than acknowledging his existence? You can't prove the non existence of God. So I don't think any rational person is trying to figure out ways to prove god's non existence. What people are doing though is taking an honest approach with the evidence, and concluding that the evidence for God is lacking.
Debate: Does God exists?
Side: God exists

Mark I never said anyone was evil, I respect and try to love everyone, because that is right and Jesus calls me to do so. When it comes to the possibility of God's existence, the Bible says that there are people who have seen sufficient evidence, but they have suppressed the truth about God. On the other hand, for those who want to know God if he is there, he says, "You will seek me and find me; when you seek me with all your heart, I will be found by you." Before you look at the facts surrounding God's existence, ask yourself, If God does exist, would I want to know him?