azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

Whilst the scriptures of all religions are confusing and self-contradictory they are at least consistent. That is consistent superstitious gobbledygook. With religion the only right you have is to love God ( take your choice of the many on offer ) and worship him forever. It's easy, doesn't involve any independent thought process and removes a lot of difficult decision making. Many years back someone asserted that there were two great evils on earth, communism and religion. He predicted that as mankind needed a God, religion would come out the winner, He was correct.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

Government is just as full of gobbledygook - nationalism, patriotism, etc. - and ultimately just as demanding of worship and adherence through its legal systems and military/law enforcement arm. Being part of a nation is easiest when you don't think independently and let the government make the choices for you instead. The only virtue government has over religion is that it is slightly more permeable to reason and a little less dogmatic (sometimes).
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

We get our rights from God and our wrongs from government.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

Women get their rights from God. They have the right to choose. It is their God given right.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

Pretend for the purposes of this particular debate that there is no God.Now in this pretend circumstance, where did your rights come from?
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

Since you want to pretend that things do not exist, I'll play along. You don't exist.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

God is the one who created us all. So he has the authority over us.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

I side on God, simply because he can't be manipulated nor be controlled by any human beings. On the other hand government, are all mere humans that an be manipulated by people. Majority of us go with the flow, when I say "flow" what I really mean is that the we are all influenced with what the society thinks. If majority of us thinks that people can live without education, then most of us would likely think the same way. The power of being influenced and manipulated lies in the person itself. The governments is composed of mere persons that can also be controlled by the citizens, therefore their thoughts about something also varies. And if our rights depends on the government then our rights would also vary in the near future, basing it on the principle that all of us gets influenced and manipulated. So if majority of us decides to alter our rights then the government would also follow. However, if it is based on God, then I believe that regardless on any religion, we are all aspiring to be righteous no matter what. With that being said, therefore I strongly believe that we should get our rights from God than the government more.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

Whether you believe we should get our rights from your idealized conception of a benevolent and just God is irrelevant to whether or not we do. Given the diversity of rights systems that are in actual practice, your proposition means that (1) your God does not exist; (2) your God is contradictory; or (3) that your God is impotent.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

I think that when people are telling you to do something, they have God present in them. But, in all ways, even if the government says its their own words, it is really coming from God.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

That would make God the most contradictory, ineffectual, confused entity in the universe...
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

Yes. But, we are supposed to follow him no matter what. Even if that is for something worse than the government.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

Per your earlier statement government is god though. It follows from your perspective that every government is of god, and no matter how terrible that government is we should permit it to exist as it is because we are supposed to follow the god government no matter what. By that rationale we would end up condoning slavery, genocide, corruption, and any other number of of ills. Your god is a terrible god if that is its expectation. Fortuitously, your god is a fictitious delusion with non-exclusive influence over governance and the rights narratives they propagate.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

I disagree with the god part, I believe the llama lord rules everythang and that he makes everything
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

We are born with our rights. They ate inherent. Government dose not give rights, anything that's been given can be taken away and is therefor a privilege.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

What rights are inherent, and what makes them inherent?
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

and tyrannical Governments can take away rights.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

There is no evidence that rights exist except where we assert their existence. The rights we possess are a consequence of the prevailing rights narrative that has the power to assert its legitimacy over other rights narratives. Government is one of the more common mechanisms of power used to control the rights narrative. I would go so far as to suggest that where religion (God) has successfully asserted a rights narrative it is because it was done in conjunction with some form of governmental structure.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

There is no evidence that rights exist If rights do not exist, you do not have the right to say that. We hold these truths to be self evident that all people are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights such as life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.*
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

What I actually stated is that rights do not exist except where we assert their existence. I enjoy the right to freedom of speech because I live within a power system which supports a rights narrative which extends that right to me.Citing the Declaration of Independence actually underscores my point, rather than undermining it. The right comes from its inclusion in the new rights narrative paradigm that the founding fathers created when they laid the foundation of this country. Had they not done so, we very well might not be having this conversation at all.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

You get your rights from God, because only He owns you, not government. He loves you so much that He died for you. :)
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

Provide even the remotest semblance of proof to substantiate any one of your claims and I will give it consideration. Until such time, however, your religious beliefs hold no persuasive weight for me since I not only do not share them but actively disbelieve them.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

Prove me wrong. .
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

Religious disposition has been scientifically traced to particular genetic coding in human DNA. The implication being that at the very least all of our conceptions of God originate in the human imagination, and consequently any rights we think we derive from our conception of God are a consequence of that same subjective imagination. By contrast, there is absolutely no objective proof that God exists in any form. With regards to mine own evidence, I direct you to observe reality. To reiterate my explanations which you have neglected to address, the rights we actually receive in actuality are reliant upon whatever powers secure them for us. The framing of this debate asks where we "get" our rights from, indicating that we are discussing those rights we presently enjoy. If these rights were secured by anything other than a preponderance of power then we could expect them to be uniform rather than exceptionally divergent.Your earlier reliance upon founding era documents of the U.S. government and rights narrative underscores everything I have stated. Your subsequent fallback onto religion does not even begin to undermine it.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

You are the one making the claim.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

So is he. .
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

His claim is that rights only exist when we say they exist and you provided a document that says that rights exist because we say they exist. You have proven his claim.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

No I have NOT proven his claim. Can you prove that I have proven his claim?
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

Did you even bother to read his post?
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

Ignoring that I had already provided an accompanying rationale as substantiation that you did not directly address...When your opponent advanced unfounded claims that is grounds for you to demand substantiation. It is not grounds for you to assert the validity of your claims absent substantiation.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

He made the claim first. .
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

No one owns you but yourself. That's why it's "yourself". The clue is in the word.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

I am not saying that I agree with everything Yeshua does, but He owns me. He earned the right to own me by being my Creator and dying on the cross for me.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

Why do you believe this? If this is your belief, you must have a legitimate reason to believe it, or else you are insane, because you are believing things without reason. If it is a logical belief, you should be able to convince others. So go. I'm logical. Convince me.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

I am a Christian, that is why. .
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

That's circular logic. "I believe it because I believe it." Why are you Christian? If you don't have a logical reason, then you are acting like an insane person. I tend to disagree with people because their only reason to believe something is because they were told it, whether from their family, political party, or a book like the Bible. I try (and of course, I don't always succeed but I try) to get information, and then form my own beliefs. What information could I get that would give me a logical reason to believe what you believe?
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

You are wrong. I am NOT committing a fallacy. You are guilty of the fallacy fallacy. I believe what I believe because Yeshua died on the cross for my sins.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

The Bible says that life begins at birth. You are a bad Christian for being prolife..
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

God makes the rights and governments enforces them;There's a fine line of difference.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

If we got them from God then how come secular people still believe in rights?
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

If a god or gods exist at all, you can claim you get your rights from them when they demonstrate the ability and willingness to intervene on your behalf when your 'rights' are violated, or at least attempt to help you get recompense afterwards. So far, all the gods mankind has thought of are 0 for several quadrillion or more there. Even if governments aren't perfect, all but the worst of them have a better track record than all gods combined in this arena.If you're going to present the actions of others as having 'really come from god' don't bother- that's a crock and we all know it. I won't respond to it.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

Neither. They are defined by society. Different societies may pull their ideas from religion or may pull them from a document like the constitution, but they come from society.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

So you are saying that rights do not exist? .
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

Did I say anything of the sort? I'm saying that objective rights do not exist. Society defines what is and isn't a right. These decisions can be informed by things like government and religion, or through logic/reason or general consensus, but they don't just magically appear.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

If you say that objective rights do not exist, you are saying that rights do not exist.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

Um, not according to the definition of the word. A right is a moral or legal entitlement to have or obtain something or to act in a certain way.Morality and legality are not objective. That means that rights are not inherently objective.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

If you say that objective rights do not exists, you are saying that rights do not exist.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

Repeating yourself is not debating. Explain why this is a counter to the point I just made. Or give more evidence on why this your argument here is legitimate. I don't have a need to repeat what I just said because you can read it in the pervious comment. The point of debating is adding something new. If you can't refute my claim, then maybe you should change your opinion. Or, you can be a stubborn child.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

I am stating the facs. If you say that objective rights do not exist, you are saying that rights in general do not exist.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

I also stated the facts. The definition the word 'right' does not imply that it must be objective. Because you have not countered that, I assume you agree. So I do not follow your logic. If you're claiming that the statement you say is a fact and someone questions that, you need to be able to back up your argument or you look like a fool.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

What about subjective rights? Can't subjective rights exist without objective rights?
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

I believe that objective rights exist. The right to feel safe is an example of an objective right.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

What does the word right mean to you? Oh, and good job on avoiding subjective rights.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

A right is something that belongs to you. You have the right to freedom of belief, for example.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

The freedom of belief is subjective since expressing your belief can get you killed in other countries. People don't have the same rights in different countries. How do you explain that?Lots of things belong to me that are clearly not rights, your definition is incomplete.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

I disagree. Freedom of belief is an objective right. People have the right to believe whatever they want.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

If you get killed for your belief did you really have that right?
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

We get our rights from God, not government. Legality does not equal morality.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

If government can take your rights away, what has God actually given you? And, every religion has certain things you can't believe and be moral, doesn't that mean that freedom of belief is not given by God?
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

You are wrong. The government does not give us our rights. God does. The government can violate our rights, but not take them away.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

The government can violate our rights, but not take them away.You might want to look up how a Constitutional amendment occurs and can be repealed. They certainly CAN take away rights, which would imply they give our rights as well.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

She already answered that. Legality does not mean morality. Morally you have those rights, and the government violates them
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

Yeah but morals are not rights, so that response doesn't make sense.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

Her only idea of a right is something that belongs to you. So ...
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

The Constitution is based on the rule of law which is a concept that God put in place.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

The Constitution is based on the rule of law which is a concept that God put in place.That is a belief, not a fact. Legal rights can be given and removed by governments. That is a fact.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

When your rights are violated, what can you do to get them back?The government does not give us our rights.I didn't say that.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

We hold these truths to be self evident that all people are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights such as life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

So, revolution is what you do if your rights are violated? Then you create a government that doesn't violate rights?
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

Strawman I never said that. .
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

He asked what you do if your rights are violated and you provided a quote from the Declaration of Independence, a document declaring a revolution.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

I would petition for redreess of grievances. .
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

You quoted the Declaration of Independence which was America declaring a revolutionary war against England. I can't figure out what you said. You didn't give me an action.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

Quoting the founders of this country does not equal a revolt. .
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

They revolted when their rights were violated, that's all I am saying. If you want to get your rights back like they did, it does though.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

Fact: I am not saying to revolt. .
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

And now you are banning people for simply disagreeing with you.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

No I haven't. I only ban trolls. .
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

Cartman is not a troll, and you banned him. He did not troll you or insult you.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

This debate is about where we get our rights. Stay on topic. .
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

Lame deflection. You call other people out for banning, and you claim to only ban others when they insult or troll you. You have even created "No ban" debates. If you ban people simply for insulting you, I will call you out, whilst also commenting on topic. More often than not you don't even respond when I stay on topic anyways.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

First the blind man then the dog and now you're plotting to overthrow the government? You sicko.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

Strawman fallacy. I prefer to obtain change through peaceful means.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

You quoted the founding fathers declaring a revolution when their perceived rights were denied to them. What possible conclusion did you expect people to take from your comment?
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

we get it from the Government which is why it took so long for black people to get equal rights.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

If rights come from government, did Hitler have te the right to enslave and kill so many people? Did the American government have the right to kidnap, torture, enslave, and murder so many people? What about the rule of law which defines the inherant worth of each person We gold these truths to be self evident that all people are created equal and endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights such as life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

And where were the rights of the millions of people that Hitler killed? Non-existent because the government they where under gave them none.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

The actions of Hitler and the American government violated the right of the people that were targeted. Legality does not equal morality.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

from our view point yes.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: Government.

So you agree that these were human rights violations? .
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

yes but it doesn't negate the fact that rights come from government.
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

I disagree. I believe that rights come from God. Are you an atheist? I just want to understand what you believe. :)
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

If rights come from god then where were the right of the millions killed by Hitler?
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

I don't know. If I say anything other than I don't know, I am a liar and you would be right to attack me. I do know this: Yeshua is my God. I have no knowledge about the problem of evil. I am better with politics than religion. Sorry, bro. :(
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

You sincerely feel that the killing of thousands of innocent Jews is only wrong because we decide it is? Why is our societal morals more valid than that of the nazis? Shouldn't we just accept that others have moral opinion that is no less valid than our own?
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

GL. proven true again.no, in retrospect actions committed by people are deplorable by our uptight standards. hitler and america decided what they wanted to do was ok, and clearly, at least for a time, a lot of people agreed with them. slavery has been an acceptable part of human society for millennia. its only our hipster selves that declare otherwise
Debate: Do we get our rights from God or government?
Side: God.

The government does not own people. .