azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

Jesus Christ was quoting the original law God set in order for he Israelite community to flourish, not diminish. Now keep in mind Jesus did not come to earth as a human yet therefore, the door to everlasting life for humans was closed. No human was forgiven from God before Jesus' time. Most of the population of the Earth were very wicked. They worshipped idols, communicated with demons, murdered, and many other atrocities. The law that stated those who dishonor their parents must die. This was a must because children of pagans would insult their parents. Now of course the Israelites did not want to put their own flesh and blood to death. So they made God's teachings of life priority.As a result no one of God's chosen people ever disobeyed the law during the life of a prophet. The law was given during Moses' time. Now back to Jesus' time. The priests in the previous verses were accusing Jesus and his apostles of sinning by not washing (as a ceremonial act) before eating.Jesus in turn rebuked the priests by saying they corrupt the laws of God for their own benefit. The priests changed the original law. So whenever a child dishonors their parents they are to make a donation to the church and seeminly pray long, unnecessary, vain prayers.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

Right then, so you are claiming that God, and later God in the form of Jesus, did say to murder disobedient children.I was confused at first after you lied and said you weren't.Glad we've got that straightened out now.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

I am sorry I looked back ay my earlier argument and I was really tired when I was writing that. It was a serious mistake.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

I have never said that Jesus is God or another form. Jesus is simply a creation of God. His first creation.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: Yes

I have never said that Jesus is God or another form. Jesus is simply a creation of God. His first creation.Whatever. Your belief or lack there of in the holy trinity is insignificant to my point, which was that God, and later Jesus (whatever Jesus means to you) said that children who dishonour their parents must be put to death. Now that you've come around and admitted it's true, my work here is done.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

If Jesus was a good role model, or even existed, no one is really following his example. And for good reason.In the book of Mathew, Jesus rails against wealthy people and told his followers to give up all of their worldly possessions and follow him. Charles Manson, Jim Jones and David Koresh did the same thing. And then raped and killed and tortured their subjects because they were dumb enough to follow their advice. If we all gave up our worldly possessions and owned nothing, this economy would hit rock bottom, everything would rot and their would be stinky homeless people everywhere, dying of hunger. What an idiotic thing to do. I'm sorry, I'm sure "heaven" as it were is this awesome place where you're just constantly tripping on the psychedelic cosmos and you can fly everywhere, but here on earth and in reality, we live in a material world. I like nice cars, flat screen TV's and hot women. I get the spiritual value of all that religious crap is really important to most people, but I find it hard to believe that if you make tons of money and give tons of it to charity and treat yourself to some fast vehicles, some fine wine and Ben & Jerry's new flavor ice cream that you're going to hell in a hand basket. That's just ridiculous. I mean, look at the Vatican for Christ's sake! (Pun intended.)I find humor in the phrase "What Would Jesus Do?" because Jesus got his ass nailed to a huge wooden cross with nails the size of railroad spikes. So, no, probably not a good role model. And why did he feel that was necessary to absolve my sins again if we're all still a bunch of sinners? Ridiculous premise in every way.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

No, his teachings have too many paradoxes on war and the treatment of non believers.
Debate: Is Jesus Christ a good role model?
Side: No

Hell No! He beats up honest business men, he is always drinking wine, he lets a known whore wash his feet with her tears and then dries them with her hair(I bet he had a super hard on!),he clearly states that you must hate your family to join him and the list goes on an on! There should be a terrorist poster with his picture on it!
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

❐God is the greatest, but Jesus is not ➭The Father is greater than I. [John 14:28]
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

Would you care to debate this ?
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

Jesus is God in the flesh.Jesus saith unto him, Have I been so long time with you, and yet hast thou not known me, Philip? he that hath seen me hath seen the Father; and how sayest thou then, Shew us the Father?John 14:9 KJV
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Its all about says.......god is greatest i agree but jesus is not god how u can say it.....whom you god saying they wer also like us..an human being just difference they wer having some natural powers...same like as jesus.....
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

This is the problem if the camp that opposes us refers only to the words which are made to be personal and not evidence for any thing, before any opposition respond, if any, read my whole posts.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

This subject has become crab to me, so I stop from this day on having arguments about this. Even stronger I am not going to say or write any more word about it. Today I chose to ignore anything what I can possibly ignore in relation with Jesus Christ. And to live my life.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Throughout the Bible there have been stories of how great Jesus is and how he possesses large quantities of all good human traits. Modesty is, of course, a good human trait, therefore the fact that Jesus said God was greater than him does not mean that God really was greater than Jesus. If Jesus truly was great as a person then that doesn't necessarily mean he could control the seas, storms, cure people etc. (though he could). It means that he was a good person, and he obviously was. God was great in an entirely different way - not in the way that he forgives everyone: he flooded the world and killed everyone on it on purpose!I therefore speak towards the notion that Jesus is greater than God; for God was not as pure as he.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

That is exactly right. Jesus stated that his Father is greater than he.Jesus never claimed to be God Almighty or even equal to him. John 10 shows that as well, where Jesus clarified that he was not Almighty God but God's "Son."Good job.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

Yes Jesus is God. There are many Bible verse that say that Jesus is God. Let me give you some.John 10:30 "I and the Father are one.”John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Let us look at John 10:30 "I (Jesus) and the Father are One." This verse is severely misunderstood and is taken out of context, because beginning at verse John 10:23 we read (in the context of 10:30) about Jesus talking to the Jews. In verse John 10:28-30, talking about his followers as his sheep, he states: "...Neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father who gave them me, is greater than all, and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and the Father are One."These verses prove only that Jesus and the Father are one in that no man can pluck the sheep out of either's hand. It does not at all state that Jesus is God's equal in everything. In fact the words of Jesus, " My Father, who gave them me is Greater than ALL...," in John 10:29 completely negates this claim, otherwise we are left with a contradiction just a sentence apart. All includes everyone even Jesus.1- the one who is speaking here is not Jesus nor the God, but it is a third person, so it is not the word of God2-Jesus said 'And to my God and your God' [John 20-17]3-Bring me a verse in which Jesus himself (BPUH) said I am God worship me......Oh, Christ worshipers! We want an answer to our question from your wise.If the Lord was murdered by some people’s act…what sort of god is this?We wonder! Was He pleased by what they did Him? If yes,blessed be they..they achieved the pleasure of HisBut if He was discontented….this means their power subjugated His!!Was the whole entity left without a Sustainer… so who answered the prayers?Were the heavens vacated…when He laid under the ground somewhere?Were all the worlds left without a God…to manage while His hands were nailed?Why did not the angles help Him when they heard him while he wailed?How could the rods stand to bear the True Lord when He was fastenedHow could the iron reach Him and His body pinioned?How could His enemies’ hands reach Him and slap His rearAnd was Christ revived by himself…or the Reviver was another god?What a sight it is! A grave that enclosed a god!What’s more weird is the belly that had Him in it!He stayed there for nine months in utter darkness…fed by blood!Then he got out of the womb as a small baby,weak and gaping to be breastfed!He ate and drank, and did what that naturally resulted in.Is this a god??!!High Exalted be The God( one and only) above the lies of ChristiansAll of them will be held accountable for their libelsOh cross worshipers…for what reason is it exaltedand blamed who rejects it?Is it not the logic to break and burn it along with the one who innovated it?Since the Lord was crucified on it…and his hands were fastened to it?That is really a cursed cross to carry…so discard itDon’t kiss it!The Lord was abused on it…and you adore it?So you are one of His enemies!!If you extol it because it carried the Lord of the worldswhy don’t you prostrate yourself and worship graves,since the grave contained your god in it?So, Christ worshiper, open your eyes,this is what the matter is all about.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

Yes Jesus is God. There are many Bible verse that say that Jesus is God. Let me give you some.John 10:30 "I and the Father are one.”John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given; and the government shall be upon his shoulder, and his name shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peacethis just proves my point you are spammingso sorry you are wrong
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Your arguments are based on a book which is rather uncivilized and it is a book which is rather out of date actually almost totally. It is a book from a in thin air and fake holy God who got deceived by the thin air fake holy spirit to infect life-spirits so-that there would be an evil and a good race. Actually out of that thin air fake holy God discrimination came forth. If you already would believe that the text in that book: the Bible is actually trustworthy, really justification for humankind or really just is more discrimination and lot's of more pain through extra punishment. My dream is real morality, real fairness and treatment based on equality which is also most human habits are really a source for the human laws I nevertheless respect. Respect the human root.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

God is All-Knowing, but Jesus is not ➭But of that day or that hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. [Mark 13:32]
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

Jesus knows when the time is coming because Jesus is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Jesus told them, "My message is NOT MY OWN; it comes from God who sent me. [John 7:16]  For I (Jesus) have NOT spoken on MY OWN authority, but the Father who sent me has himself given me a commandment - what to say and what to speak. [John 12:49]Jesus said that he is the messenger of God not the God.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Instead of spamming posts friend defend your idea and dispute logically the posts.Let us look at John 10:30 "I (Jesus) and the Father are One." This verse is severely misunderstood and is taken out of context, because beginning at verse John 10:23 we read (in the context of 10:30) about Jesus talking to the Jews. In verse John 10:28-30, talking about his followers as his sheep, he states: "...Neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. My Father who gave them me, is greater than all, and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand. I and the Father are One."These verses prove only that Jesus and the Father are one in that no man can pluck the sheep out of either's hand. It does not at all state that Jesus is God's equal in everything. In fact the words of Jesus, " My Father, who gave them me is Greater than ALL...," in John 10:29 completely negates this claim, otherwise we are left with a contradiction just a sentence apart. All includes everyone even Jesus.And for John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we have seen his glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.1- the one who is speaking here is not Jesus nor the God, but it is a third person, so it is not the word of God2- the verse here doesn't prove the divinity of Jesus, but it proves his creation by the word " be and it is ".1- the one who is speaking here is not Jesus nor the God, but it is a third person, so it is not the word of God2-Jesus said 'And to my God and your God' [John 20-17]3-Bring me a verse in which Jesus himself (Peace be upon him ) said I am God worship me......
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Have we not all one Father? Did not one God create us? [Malachi 2:10]I am (Jesus) returning to my Father and your Father,to my God and your God. [John 20:17]and we are all children of Adam! we are not children of God, but merely creations
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Jesus cried and said, He that believes on me, believes NOT ON ME, but in the One who sent me,. [John 12:44]Clear distinction between Jesus and the God has been put by Jesus himself.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

what is your quote from the Bible that tells you the hour????????
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

What time you are talking about? did he tell youor anyone any time?
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

srom: Jesus knows when the time is coming because Jesus is the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.NZ: How can you say that when the Bible states something directly opposite.When Jesus was on earth, he himself stated that he did not know "the day nor the hour" of the end of the world when his followers asked about it. The other poster quoted the scripture that proves this.Further he stated, "Neither the angels in heaven nor the Son...but ONLY the Father knows."Well, at this late date 2000 years later, with Jesus resurrected by God and given even more authority and power than he had before he came to earth, I'm sure the Father has apprised him of the "day and hour." He would have to at some point, since Jesus leads the destruction of all wickedness on earth.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

Jesus gave up some of His priveledges as God to became a Man and die for our sins. Shall I prove this?
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Jesus gave up privileges as Jesus in heaven--a more powerful being than man. Jesus did not give up privileges as Almighty God to become man.Just because the word "theos" is used of Jesus does not make Jesus Almighty God, since angels are also referred to as "theos."God cannot die, yet Jesus died--therefore, Jesus cannot be God.Jesus had to be resurrected by a force outside himself ("this Jesus God resurrected), just as any other man who dies has to be resurrected by a force outside himself in order to live again.Shall I prove this?
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

❐God don't have god, but Jesus do ➭ Jesus said 'And to my God and your God' [John 20-17]
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Right! There is no one higher than Almighty God, so Almighty God does not have a God.Jesus has, even today, a higher authority than himself, showing his inequality to God. (See Revelation 3:12, where Jesus uses the term "my God" four times in only one verse)Also John 20:17, where Jesus classed himself with the woman as having a God, saying "my God and your God, my Father and your Father."Good point.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

❐God is good, but Jesus is not ➭Jesus said to him, 'Why do you call Me good? No one is good except God alone.'" [Mark 10:18]
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

So, how do you get that Jesus is God from the statement of "Son from the Father"?That shows the separateness in the relationship of Jesus to his Father, expressed this way so that men can relate to them in human terms.The Father always existed. Jesus did not, even tho he has existed for countless aeons beside the Father. This is another reason why Jesus is called God's Son--sons come into existence AFTER fathers do.Jesus learned from the Father, taught only as the Father taught him. If Jesus were the same as the Father, he would not need to be taught anything or learn anything from the Father. He would already have it all.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

❐ God is all wise, but Jesus is not ➭And Jesus grew in wisdom and stature, and in favor with God and men. [Luke 2:52]
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Here is how the pecking order goes; God, Jesus, Angels, and Man.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

"rmcgrath Here is how the pecking order goes: God, Jesus, Angels, and Man.That's right: Revelation 1:1-3 shows that.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Even the bible says Jesus is not God. what is worse is that it sometimes hints Jesus is God.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

debateleader: Even the bible says Jesus is not God. what is worse is that it sometimes hints Jesus is God.NZ: Let's clarify what is meant in the Bible by the term "God."A "god" is any person of authority, as Jesus showed in John 10:34, 35. Also, in Psalm 82:1angels are also called "gods", because of they are a higher class of beings than man; more intelligent and more powerful. In 82:6, he refers to men as "gods", the scripture Jesus was referring to in John 10:33, 34.So a "god" can be a false god, an idol that men look to as having authority over them.A "god" can ben an angel, a demon, whom men worship instead of Almighty GodEven your belly can be your "god." Money can be your "god" since that is what you give your life to.A "god" can have God-given authority, such as the judges of Israel angels, and Jesus had. In this sense only, Jesus is "a God" (Isaiah 9:6) But Jesus is NOT Almighty God. A "God" used specifically, capitalized, refers to specific God. Baal. Astoreth. Jehovah (Psalm 83:18KJV)So you see, the term "god" in the Bible has a broader usage than most people want to recognize it has. I hope that clarifies your question.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

First, let's assert that the Bible is an unreliable source to use as evidence: it was written a long time ago by a mix of different peoples, changed around, misinterpreted, and indicates no reason to be believed above any of the other myth texts written in ancient times.That being the case, what other evidence is there that Jesus was a god? As far as I'm aware it's all from people/stories that trace that belief back to the Bible as well.With no reliable source of evidence to actually say either way that Jesus is god or not, the logical conclusion is to expect he, assuming he did in fact exist, was just another human being.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Jesus is not God! He doesn't qualify. To qualify to be God you have to be able to write. Jesus didn't write anything. He, just like all other Gods, are made by men.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

"To qualify to be God you have to be able to write\" -it asserts that being a God is matter to be subjected to completion of documented ideas, rather that a scientific ever present greatest being of cause none is aware of.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Jesus was only a prophet of god. He himself was not a god
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Jaymiller, I am glad that one like you of a different faith, I suppose, has been interested to join this debate. For all of the other side that continuous the pursuance of the divinity of Jesus, you clearly used the bible as an evidence to prove your claim, no connections has been made to reality. Now as I have said what if one of different faith joined here, can You use the bible for him to believe?
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

I wouldn't use the bible to make one believe. If they're interested enough then they will read it themselves.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

I think that's clearly my point. That one cannot use the bible to convince a person a different faith.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

jesus is definitely not god as god is suppose to be perfect and cannot be controlled by other people.if jesus is god,why did human are able to touch and harm him?if you ask something from jesus can he give it to you?can he bring back dead people to be alive?If jesus is perfect,why is he still need to eat,drink and do what normal people do to survive?this clearly shows that jesus is not different from normal human.is god suppose to be that way?he is just god messenger but not a real god.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

❐ God cannot die, but Jesus died ➭We believe that Jesus died and rose again. [1 Thessalonians 4:14]
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: Yes, Jesus is a God.

Yes Jesus died but He was in His earthly form. He came down to die for our sins. God is perfect and so was Jesus. Jesus rose again because He was God. A regular human being couldn't do that.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

A regular human being couldn't do that.Agreed.But one must wonder why so many christians believe they will when they die.
Debate: Is Jesus God ?
Side: No, Jesus is not a God.

Yes Jesus died but He was in His earthly form. He came down to die for our sins.What was the purpose of all this, exactly? Is this god sending a messenger to feed his ego further? Me thinks yes.God is perfectWow. That is some claim.The problem of evil, the problem if hell, the problem of perfect design, etc. all contradict that notion. But i'm sure you won't just make frivolous claims and not justify them-you would never do that.and so was Jesus.I thought only god could be perfect? And, as you said, Jesus was not a god when he was in earthly form. Ergo, Jesus must not have been perfect.A regular human being couldn't do that.Prove that Jesus did die, become resurrected, and join his father in heaven.