azza1625/createdebate-arguments huggingface dataset:
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

OMG! You're trying to do a smoke and mirrors trick here by panning away from the issue or debate by bringing up Nazi Germany which is completely irrelevant and unrelated to abortions! You've got to be a democrat because this is what they do! I watch it day in and day out everyday. Whenever a democrat gets backed into a corner in a debate there only way out is to sidestep around the argument by bringing something up completely irrelevant... So never minding your Nazi statement and addressing your, "Rules do not equal morality." claim, what are they then? Why do we even have them if they're not an expression of morality? Morality is defined as rightful conduct... How does the law against murder not express morality? lol you're completely off the reservation with that claim... It makes absolute no sense at all and morality is objectively binding to those who are victims from those who offend morality! That's the problem with you type who believe it's okay to act out anything including abortions and believe no negative consequences should be experienced... You live in your own little world and you think the real world revolves around you. You don't know the difference between sovereign freedom and civil freedom... If you did you would know that complete civil freedom would lead to nothing but the destruction to other human rights and complete war and you take advantage of the fact a fetus can't fight for itself to justify killing it when convenient!
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

OMG! You're trying to do a smoke and mirrors trick here by panning away from the issue or debate by bringing up Nazi Germany which is completely irrelevant and unrelated to abortions! You've got to be a democrat because this is what they do! What you mean is:OMG! What a valid point that I have absolutely no rebuttal to!You've got to be a democrat because this is what they do! I watch it day in and day out everyday. Whenever a democrat gets backed into a corner in a debate there only way out is to sidestep around the argument by bringing something up completely irrelevant.I am not a democrat; I'm rather misopolitical.So never minding your Nazi statement and addressing your, "Rules do not equal morality." claim, what are they then? Why do we even have them if they're not an expression of morality?They are basic premises to stop us from dying or living uncomfortably. In the same way, eating helps with this, but eating is not moral.It makes absolute no sense at all and morality is objectively binding to those who are victims from those who offend morality!You don't know what objectively binding means, do you? That's the problem with you type who believe it's okay to act out anything including abortions and believe no negative consequences should be experienced... You live in your own little world and you think the real world revolves around you. You don't know the difference between sovereign freedom and civil freedom... If you did you would know that complete civil freedom would lead to nothing but the destruction to other human rights and complete war and you take advantage of the fact a fetus can't fight for itself to justify killing it when convenient!Have you even read any of my arguments?My position is this; abortion should be legal so long as it is privately paid for. That way, you don't have to pay for somebodies abortion, and they can still get one. When there is no right or wrong answer, like in this case, that is the only solution.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

I have no rebuttal too? Yet you're responding to one at the end of you're dispute so you've lost me there. I think maybe you really don't have a definitive argument. You do make a small separate argument however also at the end of your dispute but that only solves half of the problem by removing the general public from unwillingly supporting abortions. The other half still is a problem and is not justifiable. That's murder of an unborn child! Do you know where morality comes from and what it means? It doesn't, from the opinion of what some might believe and it's sounds like you're one of them, derive from religion! Morality derives from nature and it is generally divided up between good and bad depending on how the act affects life's well-being both personally and to others. It's naturally a good thing to eat towards a healthy physical life so eating is yes, a moral act, and more specifically, it's a good moral act! And I really like how you break up my entire thought there to fit your argument of what rules are for. Anyways it's irrelevant because after explaining to you what morality is, it's obvious your claim of what rules are for are one in the same of what I said morality is. You just think rules or laws are there to force people to live a certain way and that's completely false! Rules and laws are there for the people that don't practice good morality because they are a danger to themselves, others and to society. Objectively binding - having an object attached to another. In this case morality being the object and in your context immorality being a thing conveniently avoided by abortion and in my dispute it's inconvenient for the aborted child and society. Do you know what it means? I think you maybe meant something else. I'm glad you're not a democrat! Maybe after learning what I'm trying to teach you, you'll be a good addition to the good side! and I don't know if I'm the one that has gone on a downvoting rampage on your arguments... I don't target one person just the arguments that I feel are not sufficient!
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

The other half still is a problem and is not justifiable. That's murder of an unborn child!Your opinion, not a fact. ! Do you know where morality comes from and what it means?Nobody does, and no-one ever will.It doesn't, from the opinion of what some might believe and it's sounds like you're one of them, derive from religion! Morality derives from nature and it is generally divided up between good and bad depending on how the act affects life's well-being both personally and to others.I'm sorry, I wasn't aware I was speaking to God. Nobody knows where morality comes from, or even whether it exists. This is a fundamental axiom that must be accepted if we are to have appropriate discourse.It's naturally a good thing to eat towards a healthy physical life so eating is yes, a moral act, and more specifically, it's a good moral act!So all things that provide good health are moral, and bad health are immoral? So, obesity is immoral? Or anorexia? Or bulimia? Anyways it's irrelevant because after explaining to you what morality is, it's obvious your claim of what rules are for are one in the same of what I said morality is. You just think rules or laws are there to force people to live a certain way and that's completely false! Yes, I do think that. And you are yet to prove that they aren't.Rules and laws are there for the people that don't practice good morality because they are a danger to themselves, others and to society.So if good morality=healthiness (based on your earlier statement), bad morality=unhealthiness. So, should we conversely punish those with obesity, cancer, or any other illness?Objectively binding - having an object attached to another. In this case morality being the object and in your context immorality being a thing conveniently avoided by abortion and in my dispute it's inconvenient for the aborted child and society. Do you know what it means? I think you maybe meant something elseThat's not what objectively binding means; and yes I do.Objectively binding morality is morality that is universal for every human being that has lived, lives, and ever will live. It will never change, and every human on the planet is compelled to abide by it.You haven't proven that morality is objectively binding.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Who's going to prove otherwise it's justifiable to kill whatever stage an unborn child is at just because somebody was irresponsible and they don't want to deal with consequences especially when their are other choices? They're not, just like you can't prove it's always wrong, because objective morality is yet to be proven.Only those who don't want to.Those who wanted to have done for 2000 years, and will continue to do so; yet no concrete evidence has been discovered.Secondly you're contradicting yourself by admitting that morality is a self-evident truth that requires no proof. A universally accepted principle or rule. but at the same time you're saying nobody knows where it comes from or it even exists.I'm not saying morality is axiomatic, I'm saying agnosticism of morality is axiomatic.Yes they are! To yourself and even to others under a politically attached society with an economical system!Then morality becomes simply a matter of health, and nothing meaningful. Under this system, an obese man who gives millions to charity is immoral. I knew it! The proof is I'm not a law offender and I don't need them to continue to be an upstanding citizen! If all the sudden the law changed from being illegal to legal to drive drunk, I still wouldn't do it.Thank you for proving my point. Laws are only there to restrict people; if they were removed, crime would not increase significantly, as you say yourself,  If all the sudden the law changed from being illegal to legal to drive drunk, I still wouldn't do it.My original statement was, "Morality derives from nature and it is generally divided up between good and bad depending on how the act affects life's well-being both personally and to others." I didn't just limit it to physical health nor did I include natural illnesses to be part of it but if somebody is doing something harmful to themselves or others on purpose them yes, they should be reprimanded if they refuse to change the act or behavior.Again, I refer you to the obese humanitarian. Is his good act cancelled by his obesity? If so, which arbitrary standard do you use to assign value to an act? You know I just can't walk by your house and take a shit on the your lawn because then you would have to pick it up. Get my drift?!Of course you can, the only thing stopping you is fear of consequence (practical reasons aside). And just as I told somebody else on here, If you don't believe in morality and you think anyone can do anything they want and all they need is some ridiculous rationalization, there is a perfect environment for that... It's called the wilderness... You can do whatever you'd like out there but understand the same can be done back to you and nobody or anything would care... Not one single thing!There is a rationalisation for any alleged moral act. Give me a moral act that cannot be rationalised amorally.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Ok lets ignore the emotional and moral issues and just look at the practical, abortion has been illegal in the past this did'nt stop it happening women just went to doctors willing to do the procedure in secret, this was dangerous and women died others ended up in hospital because of complications from poorly done abortions. Also women commited suicude because they saw no othet way of dealing with the position they were in. Surely it is better to have safe abortions in proper clinical conditions rather than a rise in the death rate and women clogging up the emergency room because they had a botched abortion
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

If women are willing to seek illegal abortions, then they must also be willing to face the possible consequences.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

So your pro life but also pro death for women that have them just a little bit hypocritical, what if you or a family member needed emergency treetment but the emergency room was full because a woman was in there because of a botched abortion that could not be obtained legally?
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

The question was is abortion right or wrong? Not should abortion be illegal or legal.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Ask yourself this: Whould you rather be given an unwanted life where even your own mother wishes you didn't exist or be killed in a painless way before you are fully conscious to save your mother's life?
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Great argument! i know i would chose death, because i can't even stand it when my mom gets mad at me for something i didn't do...her hating me everyday for something i couldn't control...that would give me suicidal thoughts...and Cymbalta wont be able to help that
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Well that's almost as bad as saying suicide's okay. We should let the fetus die because, if it grows up, it might feel suicidal. Some people might be able to pull through - if you give them a tough life, it will be bad, but they can make something out of it. Give them no life, and they can't. I agree that it would be a horrible life, but you can't ask the fetus whether they'd rather live or die - you can't make that decision for them, so you go with the default and let them live. Maybe you would prefer to die, but not everyone would and, if you have no way of asking, how can you make a decision on their behalf? I believe that most of the money that funds abortion clinics should be relocated to try and help these unwanted children find better homes and be adopted.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Yes i think its right to have abortion, i think with horror if i lived in a country without it, i went through one with a girlfriend, both for our sake, but also the sake of the unborn child who would've been born into family that had no "real" adults since we were just 16 and 15 at the time and in my oppinnion to this day way to young to have a child and too "inexperienced" in life to be able to care for a child.note: I live in Denmark where the legal age for having sexual relations is 15.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

So you think just because you're too young to have a child, that child should be punished for it... Why not give up for adoption?
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

I like how somebody down voted this question but neglected to dispute or answer it!
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

Once upon a time, a girl was mature when she started menstruating, and she was expected to marry soon afterwards. There was a community of support behind her, women who would encourage and take care of her throughout her pregnancy. The same older, wiser women were there to guide her through childbirth, and to teach her how to care for her newborn child. They were there to teach her how to keep a home for her husband and children, how to nurture and raise her children. Pathetically, in our sophisticated modern world, young people are raised as entitled individuals who are lazy, selfish, immature, undisciplined, irresponsible, rebellious against and disrespectful to those adults that are there to instruct them in the way they should go.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Rape, disease, career, age...There's lots of reasons that a woman would want an abortion.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

"It is a poverty that a child must die so that you may live as you wish." ~Mother Teresa
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

It's not a child- it's a cluster of unspecified cells.Embryo> Foetus> Baby> Infant> Child
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

I am somewhat of a nihilist, so the idea of abortion being right or wrong is silly to me. But Ill play along. Something is only ever discussed as being right or wrong when people disagree on how the something should be percieved. The disagreement usually stems from the idea of killing. Pro lifers generally believe that fetal 'life' is as precious as conscious life and since the killing of conscious life is immoral so too is killing of fetal 'life'. Pro choicers generally believe that fetal 'life' is not the same life as a conscious person. I am a pro choicer and I will attempt to explain why the terminating of fetal 'life' is significantly outweighed by the rights of conscious beings. A fetus can only be aborted after it maintains a heartbeat. At this stage the fetus is not a human being it is only a deveopling pile of cells with a muscle that beats. It has no feelings, sense of identity, or any faculty that would be counted as solely human. Aborting that fetus is not killing it, because it is not what I consider to be alive. Aborting it is only stopping the production of life, not a life itself. I believe that the thoughts and feelings of a conscious person, what I would deem as being alive, are more important than that pile of developing cells. In a classical viewpoint you only get one life. Since you only get one it is logical to want to make it the best possible. If a baby would ruin that life, which pro lifers care so much about, then the fetus should be terminated. Why after one mistake should one be forced to abandon their one and only life to produce another.. The bad outweighs the good in that viewpoint.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

It is not right or wrong. It is only logical or illogical at the time.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

We should have the right to make our own decisions. The government shouldn't have a say.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

abortion is sad and all, but women should have a choice. what if the woman couldn't support a baby, would you really want to bring it into the world, only to have it be put into a terriable lifestyle, where it wouldn't be able to enjoy life?
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: against abortion

EVERY person has the same equal right to life, no matter what. Give me a life with challenges and I'll make something of that life. Take a life from someone and they don't have that chance to make something out of life, because it was taken from them. Only God gives and takes away, not man.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

How do you know abortion is not an act of god?
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

How is Abortion the unlawful killing of another person when it is a Fetus and legal?
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Women have the right to choose. :)
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

It shouldn't be used as the next form of birth control, but only under these situations is it right- Mother will die in birth- Baby is braindead- Baby will die in birth- Mother was raped- Baby will be born too weak to survive- Mother is sick- Baby is sick- Mother is too weak to go on with the pregnancy BUT these situations are NOT okay- Doesn't want baby- Birth control- Father doesn't want baby- Baby isn't correct gender- Mother doesn't want babyAnd pretty much everything else out there.I do agree a fetus is a life, but abortion is only right under limited circumstances......
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

On the other hand abortion is also right because if a women is not willing to have a baby giving birth to that baby may turn into a huge mistake for the parent and may also turn into child abuse so in a way abortion is right to send a innocent baby back to where it belongs...
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

I support ideas of those who are for abortion. As everybody knows, abortion is called like 'termination of pregnancy'. Abortion is a personal choice. Saying that it's bad just because the fetus or because it is something like murder is a weak argument. Also, it is wrong to blame women that they had an abortion. There are a lot of reasons, clear reasons to do that. If a woman is raped, and she and her family is unable to care for the child, then there is no more output than an abortion. Why do I say that? Because nowadays there are number of children in orphanages who grow up without fathers and mothers. Over time, they will realize that they have thrown by their own parents. This is doubly painful than leave the child when he was still a fetus. because "unborn children" do not have the ability to think, but those who are in the orphanage ...
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Not for it, just for the right to have one....................................................................
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

I see why in some circumstances the mother might look like a murder by having an abortion, but if the mother is say... 16 years old, it would not be a good idea to keep the baby as the mother would not be ready. Also, if the child has some sort of illness, an abortion would be better as it would end suffering for the child.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Kind of funny how the first anti choice poster committed a logical fallacy in the first line. Just sayin.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

FYI....If women should choose the right to abort then you should all be pretty greaful yours kept you ! There needs to be a line somewhere and for some whore to go have unprotected sex and have five abortions means she should probably get a hysterectomy and save herself some money!!
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

Pro-choice here. I believe abortion is sometimes necessary, especially in cases of rape or serious health consequences. It should also be the woman's choice since it is her body.In the case of rape, a woman has been impregnated against her will. She did not consent to sex and she certainly did not choose to be pregnant. I think it is evil to not allow an abortion in this case.Another case would be that the pregnancy endangers the life of the woman. So in other words: if the pregnancy were to continue, the mother would end up dying.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

If someone is a strict constructionist who interprets the Constitution word for word, the sanction for abortion is given under the Fourteenth Amendment. The Fourteenth Amendment of our U.S. Constitution defines a citizen “a citizen” at birth. If a woman is carrying a fetus in the womb, the U.S. Constitution does not designate the fetus as “a citizen.” It would take an amendment to the U.S. Constitution to declare a fetus a citizen. You have to be born in order to be recognized as a citizen. Therefore, a woman does have the right to choose. A fetus inside the womb is not designated as a citizen according to the U.S. Constitution so by default is not entitled to life, liberty, or prosperity. You have to be born in order to be endowed with those privileges. To conclude, neither the Federal government nor any of the States can deny a woman the right to choose. If abortion is murder, abortion would have been terminated years ago due to the cruel and unusual punishment clause under the Eighth Amendment. Again, proof that a fetus is not recognized as a citizen of the United States of America.
Debate: Abortion is it right or wrong?
Side: for abortion

If a girl is raped by a man and she gets pregnant then she may not want the baby for all sorts of reasons. She may not want the baby because if it is a boy then it might remind her of the guy that raped her. Or maybe that if a young teenager or even a normal middle aged women gets raped then they might not be in a good financial state to raise a baby. Or if she is a teenager it could ruin her social life and loose friends and may be bullied and called a "slut". And it is not their fault that they don't want to keep the baby its just it is not the right time for her to have a baby.