Debate: Steak or Salad: Is Vegetarianism foolish?
Side: Salad

You take all kinds of crap as true? Simply calling anything that disagrees with you crap does nothing for your case. If you think it's all crap, then point out the flaws in the studies. What part of "we are omnivores" aren't you getting?I get it loud and clear, but you don't seem to be getting my point. Being an omnivore just means we are able to eat both plants and meat. Just because we are able to, doesn't mean we have to. As I've said, the studies clearly show that you can be perfectly healthy on a vegetarian diet, but since you seem to think any scientific research that disagrees with you is "crap", then what's the point in debating. If all evidence is "crap" then it's just my word against yours, which gets us nowhere.One of the reasons we don't need meat anymore is because we don't expend tons of energy hunting food like we did when we were cavemen. Back then people spent most of their time hunting and gathering food, expending tons of energy. Now we just take one trip to the grocery store and we have all the food we need for weeks. Now we sit on our asses debating on computers and expend very little energy. Our dietary requirements that resulted in us evolving into omnivores are very different that the ones we have today. Reality is that I don't even have to check that "show" to claim with 100% certainty that it is nonsense. You misread my statement. I wasn't talking about a "show", I was saying the studies show a vegetarian diet is healthier.The fact that you would even say something like shows you have absolutely no interest in actually examining any evidence. You just want to blindly assert things and dismiss anything that disagrees with you without even looking at it.Eating meat is healthy, and how much is needed depends how active your life physically is.It is healthy in moderation. The problem is most people eat too much of it. Remember this quote from my original argument, "It's been estimated that the average person in this country eats two - six times more protein, usually from animals, than is needed for good nutrition." Meat can be part of a healthy diet. I never said it couldn't. All I'm saying is that eating a vegetarian diet is healthier, and the research agrees. Even if it wasn't healthier and was just equally as healthier, I still think it would be a better alternative because of ethical reasons.We have evolved to eating meat and plants, we need both.Show me the research that shows we need both. I've already presented research that shows we don't. Just because we needed both in the past does not mean we still need both. Evolution doesn't stop. Our dietary requirements will continue to evolve.Biased studies in that case.Show me how their biased? You seem to be really good at dismissing anything that disagrees with you without actually backing up your claims or providing any evidence of your own.This whole conversation can be summed up in 2 sentences. I say "Here's what I think, and here is the research to back it up." Then, you say, "nu uh, that's crap, we're omnivores". If you can't explain the flaws in the research I've presented, or at the very least show me some research that backs up your assertion that not eating meat is "unhealthy", "foolish", and "downright stupid" then this debate is pointless.If it is so unhealthy, then how do you explain all those vegetarian/vegan athletes I listed. Do you think a six-time Ironman winner is unhealthy. How about the UFC fighter, the four-time Mr. Universe, or the triathlete and ultra marathon national champion? Are all those people unhealthy? Most of them are vegans, which is an even more limited diet than vegetarians.