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Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: Yes, they rejected him

But if you think about it, that doesn't really make sense, now does it?
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: Yes, they rejected him

Yes, God gives many chances on Earth to do whats right. If they fail then they are not welcomed in heaven.
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: No, it's incompatible

"What is right" and "what the Bible tells us" aren't always the same.
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: Yes, they rejected him

The bible is not the religion its self, it is just a religious text for christianity, no angle, spirt, savior or god EVER wrote anything in the bible.
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: Other

Your getting mixed up with your ideas of God and religions. Firstly, God is beyond understanding – philosophers for centuries have tried- because the minute you understand God he ceases to be God. The closest we can come are attributes and our understanding of them, in your case benevolent – meaning helpful and well meaning. A policeman can be seen as benevolent but if he does not possess the ability to punish and apprehend then he’s an expensive watchmen and of no use to the people but aid to wrongs. Similarly you can’t just put the attribute of benevolent on God and say if he’s only kind then why does he punish? People have a choice and they follow fate but their choices can affect their fate if they put in the right efforts and intent. So it doesn’t matter what religion or denomination you follow as the actions of a decent person will be the same and their intent and efforts will direct people towards the middle path and they will strive themselves to follow too. Those that have managed it perfectly are called The Prophets and from the few that are well documented we know that all said the same thing: Do not lie, cheat, steal, kill etc.Ignorance is not an excuse as religion is the cornerstone of every civilization known and unknown. No true religion goes against the basic tenets of The Commandments but politics changes the messages over time and the religion becomes detached from it’s original teachings leading to the decline of the civilization and the religion. No one is guaranteed “salvation” anything and no one knows the fullest extent of their actions either. So killing an alleged thief may be seen as something good but it was not proven so you have in fact exonerated him and condemned yourself. It’s not random factors at all but a fine line between doing good and understanding what your doing – you can’t blindly follow and expect to be right and more than back any horse and be right every time. As for the hell scenario – it’s silly to think it’s too harsh a punishment. Charles Manson is still alive and still has no remorse over his actions. Will he change tommorrow do you think? In a year? In a millenia? So if the guy isn’t going to use his will in the right way to change himself when he can, then an eternal punishment is not harsh as he’s going to be like that for eternity anyway.
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: Yes, they rejected him

I think it depends what you did wrong. I think if you sad a bad word or breaking a BIG promise i think he would send you to hell.
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: No, it's incompatible

Well then, according to you it seem that there's no one actually in Heaven.
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: No, it's incompatible

Yeah, I really don't know why I said you if you say a bad word you go to hell, I really ment if you break a really big commandment
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: Yes, they rejected him

Hi all,God created us in his own image and gave us free will, just as he gave the angels free will. God Tell's us repeatedly that he wants a relationship with us as individuals, he wants us to love him with our minds and hearts just as he loves us. He could have just programmed us to repeat in a robotic voice "I love you God" but how satisfying would that be?So, God does not send people to hell, as we have been blessed with free will, we have the freedom to make a choice to either be with God in Heaven, or be with satan in Hell. God is the creator of everything, you me the Universe and Hell, which he created for satan, the fallen Angels and followers such as the Nephillim. but Satan is the ruler of this world as it is a fallen world. hence all the sorrow, torture, illness and death. God loves us, and while satan is trying to destroy the world God turns his evil to good. for those who are agnostic or atheist and abstain from making any decision for or against God, you will still be choosing to follow satan. just because you decide that God doesn't exist doesn't make it so. God does exist, there is evidence all around us that shows us this truth. there is really only ONE thing we need to do during our short stay on earth and that is to thank God and accept his free gift of Grace by sending his son to die on the cross, take our sins upon himself, and save us from Hell and the clutches of Satan. Because we are fallen and therefore have evil in our hearts, we cannot be near God who is Holy and cannot be around evil, so it is our decision to accept grace that saves us from hell and allows us to be with God.Hope I wasn't too long winded.
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: Yes, they rejected him

The question is being asked wrong. The question that should be asked whether in India or America is, "Considering that I daily reject the obvious truth that is written on my heart, and burned into my conscience; considering that I willfully reject the truth that I am presented with, How can a God of JUSTICE NOT make me pay for my CRIME. To allow me to go free under those circumstances would make Him unjust, and therefore evil and anti-benevolent. This issue is putting God on trial and not allowing Him to testify. And no, I don't expect to sway this debate. :)
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: No, it's incompatible

If you really believe that then you are either extremely apathetic or you spend your days feeling miserable and helpless as every non-baptized person around you is, you believe, cast into eternal torment by a supposedly "loving" God; in either case, I feel sorry for you and the misery in which you live this one life you have.
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: Yes, they rejected him

They rejected His forgiveness. Therefore, with this rejection they still have sin. Heaven is a perfect place and sin is imperfect. So, God cannot let anyone into Heaven that still has sin. That said, they have to go to Hell. Since, they cannot go to Heaven.
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: Yes, they rejected him

As there's too many arguments to try and wade through, I'm writing this and hoping somebody will read it.Since this is a religious debate, I assume I'm allowed to use the Bible. There are many views supported by popular Christianity that aren't backed by the Bible. For instance, the idea that when people die, they go either to Heaven or to 'Hell'. Ecclesiasted 9:5 says, "The dead know nothing." If the dead went directly to Heaven or Hell, and yet 'knew nothing', what's the point in being there? If Lazarus went to Heaven, then how cruel would Jesus have been to call him back?As for Hell, the Bible never says anything about it being an eternal place of torture and torment for the non-believers. Jude 1:7 says, "Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire." If Sodom and Gomorrah were subject to the 'eternal fire' of Hell, then why aren't they still burning? Shouldn't we still see columns of smoke rising in the middle-east? No. Those cities have been destroyed to the point that we don't even know where they were.The effects of 'Hell' are permanent. The result lasts an eternity. Revelation 20:9 describes Hell in its entirety: "And I saw them as they went up on the broad plain of the earth and surrounded God's people and the beloved city. But fire from heaven came down on the attacking armies and consumed them." That's it. Hell comes and goes. Those who didn't accept Jesus's Sacrifice are burnt, and they die. The wicked aren't tormented eternally, they simply no longer exist. Just like you didn't exist before you were born. That's it. Done.In fact, the basis that God is loving and benevolent destroys the idea of an eternal hell. Why would such a God keep people alive for eternity merely to make them suffer? And what sort of life would it be for the people in Heaven, who know that their loved ones are suffering every moment. In that universe, Heaven would be just as much as hell as hell.And God doesn't 'send people to Hell'. People choose Hell for themselves. By rejecting the love of God today, they choose their own fate. It's not about which religion is 'right'. No religion has it dead-on. No religion can claim to follow the Bible word-for word. No, it's about accepting Jesus as your savior.
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: Yes, they rejected him

Actually, sorry. The Biblical refute is up.I really hope somebody reads it, as nobody has commented on it yet. (I'm going to vote myself down to zero, as this really isn't an argument either way)
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: Yes, they rejected him

yes and no, i believe that people do go to hell and that god is benevolent, but i believe its more because god cant be around sin. i believe its because while god can forgive those who imbrace him, he cant forgive thse who dont, as a result, god cannot be around sinful people.i dont believe on the other hand that godsends them there. i believe its complecated, and we as humans cant comprehend it
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: Yes, they rejected him

we all know that we have sinned. It has been going on for thousands of years and God continually puts up with it. I believe a kind God would send people to hell especially if those persons have been warned their entire life.We have been given a fair number of chances and those who failed to succumb should be severely punished. Also we know that God is kind and we also know that he keeps his promises as he did in the time of Jonah. Don't you think he can do it again with fire??????
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: Yes, they rejected him

Ya, would a benevolent God, allow people to Get away with wrong doing?Jus because he is loving doesn't mean that he doesn't believe in justice.People use his Love,mercy etc to say that he wouldn't.Why?Because its human to hide from the truth.
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: Yes, they rejected him

God does punish people according to their sin. One sin causes infinite pain, people assume that God does not feel pain but everytime a person sins he feels pain. Pain that is caused by you and me and never goes away. God punishes people according to their crimes. The punishment does fit the crime but not in the way Dante's Inferno describes it. The punishment is eternal because God is eternally in pain because of the crime. But in his Benovolence he grants mercy in his love for us he finds it in him to forgive us. All of us, Jews and Gentiles Black and White whoever is baptized into Jesus Christ and believes with all their heart and loves and strives to be like God will be forgiven. That God is benevolent is self evident through the simple fact that he has not sent everyone to hell.
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: Yes, they rejected him

And Yes people can change their beliefs it is not however spontaneous. It comes through a little thing called seeking God. I was raised a Christian by my parents. But, I was not a Christian. I did not strive to be and act like Christ. I sinned and did not care. It meant nothing to me. I walked through life with no meaning no purpose but to serve myself. Gradually with the help of God I began to see the error of my ways. Over the course of several months I read and I studied the Bible. I prayed I talked to people. The more I did this the more happy I grew. Then one day i was reading about the Crucifixion and I burst into tears. A week later I converted to Christianity. So my beliefs changed.
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: Yes, they rejected him

Okay, I'll answer the premise.Would a benevolent God, knowing that the majority of people in the world would never be exposed to the correct 'Religion' or 'Denomination' send people to hell based on that fact, or is it incompatible with benevolence?No. But that's not what's happening. God doesn't 'send' people to 'hell' based on correct religion or denomination. God saves people from a fate that will occur without such salvation based on if they love Him or not.Whether or not you answer in the affirmative or the negative, does this in your opinion create a lottery situation in which some people are given greatly increased chances of acheiving salvation and heaven based on random factors? While others are given a greatly decreased, if any, chance to receieve salvation and heaven?No. There are random factors. There will most likely be people in heaven who don't even know God but still love Him. Salvation isn't about chance, it's about choice.If you answer in the negative [He would send them to hell] how do you reconcile the situation in which someone may, for instance, live all their lives in a radical, 'heathen' country where information of the 'true' [whatever it may be] religion is not allowed?There are many examples where the worship of God is forbidden under pain of death. That is actually when the church grows the most, because those who stay with it are those who truly believe in it. Such faith is contagious. So, first off, He doesn't send people to hell, and 'heathen' countries are where the Gospel (literally "Good News") is spread the fastest.Pretty much the only way to stay away from God in today's world is to actively reject His love. And if you do so, you also reject His salvation. But even if He did save those who don't love Him, what salvation would it be? Forced to spend an eternity in a very one-sided relationship. It's hard to spend a few months in those, let alone millions of years. Salvation then would be more of a hell than hell is [1].-----[1] If you look down, you can see one (actually two, but one readily visible) of my arguments in which I show how the Bible refutes the idea of an eternal, torturous hell.
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: No, it's incompatible

No. But that's not what's happening. God doesn't 'send' people to 'hell' based on correct religion or denomination. God saves people from a fate that will occur without such salvation based on if they love Him or not.So unless I love a man-god I have never known, I will go to a place of eternal torment?
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: Yes, they rejected him

No.Unless you love God (one of the basic ideas is that He's not a man) that wants to get to know you, you will separate yourself from Him. God want's to be your friend. If He didn't, why send Jesus to die?Everyone you meet in life is a complete stranger until you get to know them. If somebody comes up to you and you push them away, is it their fault? God respects your wishes. If you don't want to get to know Him, he'll let you do that. He doesn't like it any more than you would like one of your children disowning you, but He allows that to happen.As for the eternal torment, if you read down in my post, you will find directions to an argument refuting that. If you wish, I could paste it below your argument.
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: No, it's incompatible

Keyword being "meet". How can I love someone or something that I have never meet?Outside of ambiguous images on grilled-cheese sandwiches, hallucinations which no one else seems to see, and voices which no one else seems to hear. Your God has not made himself known. Even people who believe/Love him have only anecdotal stores to offer.You're chasing shadows. Sorry if I don't find this the least bit convincing.
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: Yes, they rejected him

Keyword being "meet". How can I love someone or something that I have never meet?You get a letter from them. If you do not believe they exist, and, thus, disregard the letter, that's not their fault. To get to know them, you could start by reading the letter and replying (reading the Bible and praying). You most likely aren't going to 'hear' anything the first time, and thus you'd think it's a waste of time. But if you listen hard enough, you will.Outside of ambiguous images on grilled-cheese sandwiches, hallucinations which no one else seems to see, and voices which no one else seems to hear. Your God has not made himself known. Even people who believe/Love him have only anecdotal stores to offer.Toaster images aren't proof of God. As for 'hallucinations' and voices, many people hear God's voice. It's not a booming voice from the sky for all to hear, but for each person individually. Those who don't hear it choose not to, or aren't trying hard enough. God has made Himself known to me and many others. He has saved my life on a few occasions, along with physically healing some friends (there are x-rays to prove it). He has made himself known, but many tend to look away from the evidence or use anything but God to explain it.
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: No, it's incompatible

You get a letter from them. If you do not believe they exist, and, thus, disregard the letter, that's not their fault. To get to know them, you could start by reading the letter and replying (reading the Bible and praying). You most likely aren't going to 'hear' anything the first time, and thus you'd think it's a waste of time. But if you listen hard enough, you will.If you love with someone you've never met because they sent you a letter, I think there may be some "issues" here with emotional and mental stability.Even so, a letter is more than I've received from Yahweh.As for 'hallucinations' and voices, many people hear God's voice.Many people also claim to have had sex with extraterrestrials. Spotted Bigfoot. Talked with ghosts. uncovered a reptilian overlord plot etc...I suppose we should believe them as well? You have just as much evidence as they do: none.It's not a booming voice from the sky for all to hear, but for each person individually. Those who don't hear it choose not to, or aren't trying hard enough.Or it's just in your head.He has saved my life on a few occasions, along with physically healing some friends (there are x-rays to prove it).Yet he neglects to heal the world's amputees. The body can do amazing things, such as fighting off normally fatal viruses, and healing great injuries, but it cannot regrow a limb.If I prayed to a gallon of milk I would get the same results; sometimes I would get nothing sometimes I would get amazing recoveries. This is entirely what i would expect.
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: Yes, they rejected him

If you love with someone you've never met because they sent you a letter, I think there may be some "issues" here with emotional and mental stability.Even so, a letter is more than I've received from Yahweh.Many people meet via letters. I'm not saying you fall in love from them, but they meet. You meet God via the Bible (his letter to humanity), but get to know him via prayer (talking to God).Many people also claim to have had sex with extraterrestrials. Spotted Bigfoot. Talked with ghosts. uncovered a reptilian overlord plot etc...I suppose we should believe them as well? You have just as much evidence as they do: none.Reptilian overlords have not saved my life, nor the life of my friends. There are such a thing as modern-day-miracles. And I'm not talking about crying statues. I'm talking about cured cancer and car crashes where the car is totally destroyed and the kid who was thrown from it was found sitting in the only soft bush for miles and calmly says "The angels put me here."The body can do amazing things, such as fighting off normally fatal viruses, and healing great injuries, but it cannot regrow a limb.Can it destroy cancer in minutes?
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: No, it's incompatible

Many people meet via letters. I'm not saying you fall in love from them, but they meet. You meet God via the Bible (his letter to humanity), but get to know him via prayer (talking to God).Letters are what people write when they can't meet someone at a given time. The bible was written by men, not God. Religion is a product of man.Reptilian overlords have not saved my life, nor the life of my friends.No one said they did, nor would they have to, in order for them to be true. You dismiss what has no evidence, but accept something else which also has no evidence.There are such a thing as modern-day-miracles. And I'm not talking about crying statues. I'm talking about cured cancer and car crashes where the car is totally destroyed and the kid who was thrown from it was found sitting in the only soft bush for miles and calmly says "The angels put me here."These are not miracles, they are simply rare events. People die from cancer all of the time. People die in car accidents all the time. Where is the miracle for these people? Millions of children die of starvation every year, but one suburban white kid survives a car crash and this is a miracle?
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: Yes, they rejected him

one suburban white kid survives a car crash and this is a miracle?It's interesting how you automatically assume it was a suburban white kid. Does it really matter what race it was?
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: No, it's incompatible

And that seems very selfish of our "loving" God, doesn't it? He will only save us if WE love HIM. If HE loves US, wouldn't he save us regardless? A mortal parent loves their child unconditionally, so wouldn't a perfect being like God, often called a parent of his many human children, take UNCONDITIONAL love to an extreme?
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: No, it's incompatible

Actually, sorry. The Biblical refute is up.I really hope somebody reads it, as nobody has commented on it yet. (I'm going to vote myself down to zero, as this really isn't an argument either way)
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: Yes, they rejected him

Basically, it depends on what one means by a "benevolent" God. If by benevolent, we mean fair, then yes, He would send us to Hell. Is it fair (no offense to ANY Nazis) for Adolf Hitler, the perpetrator who caused the Holocaust, to go to Heaven? Also, would it be fair for someone to receive awards from a person or people that someone doesn't know over another that does? It really isn't fair. However, if a benevolent God means an all-loving God that just "forgives and forgets" for everything, then He wouldn't send anyone to Hell. However, this is a very unlikely reality. We, as humans, sin so much, that even an all-forgiving God would send us to Hell.
Debate: Would a benevolent God send people to hell?
Side: No, it's incompatible

Would you agree that an adequate definition of a just god is a god who doles out the appropriate punishment for a particular crime?If so, humans are not immortal. They have a finite amount of time in which to sin, ergo, upon their death, they have committed a finite number of sins no matter how evil they were.Hell is widely represented as a place of infinite punishment, and additionally, the punishment is the same for every offense, from jealousy to genocide. How can finite wrongdoings, regardless of severity, ever merit infinite punishment? Especially considering that if we had not been created exactly as God intended us to be, with free will, we would not have the ability to sin.