Debate: Is there God?
Side: Yes

I don't know, you will have to show me... I won't believe in a god, I could request any sort of evidence, but there will always be a concept of god that is harder and harder to be capable of being evident.Oh, good grief. Is a floating bunny sufficient proof for God, or can something else be evidence of God and we don't even realize it? If we discovered some new substance that just happens to be the same substance that God is made out of, how would we know? We don't have a God to go off of to know if we're observing something that is connected to God.Even with a concept of god where evidence is impossible, that doesn't mean you believe it anyway cause evidence is impossible for it... it doesn't work that way...How do you think beliefs work? They're subjective. I may believe that you are a female, but if you don't prove to me that you are a male, how would I know? Evidence isn't proving that a God doesn't exist either, so maybe it would be best for you to just not form any sort of opinion regarding the source of creation. Depends on what beliefs.Care to elaborate?evidence...What is the evidence? There is evidence against the Genesis creation myth, there is evidence against a talking serpent, against Greek and Roman gods... But what evidence is there against an intelligent Creator? None. If I spill my soda, if I ask "why did my soda spilled?" the answer will be "because I knocked it over." if I ask "how my soda spilled?" the answer will be "because I knocked it over". Differentiate between why and how here is need.Why is looking for a reason. How is looking for a method. Why= It landed on it's side. How=I knocked it over.A substantiated reason? I'd like to hear it.What substantiated reason do you have for not believing in God? Whatever you say could be interpreted differently by a theist, and used as support for their beliefs.I think subconsciously it is, I have not come across a substantiated reason to believe in god.Atheists (and people belonging to a religion) tend to think materialistically. Materialism is why we have wars... Money, oil, even religious wars. It is why we have crimes... Theft, murder, drug-trafficking. It is why we have both greed and poverty. Every government is run by materialists and we all know how corrupt the world's governments are. It is why our society is obsessed with fashion, appearance, cars, TV. It is why bullying and gossiping exists. It is responsible for depression and suicide. So many negative things. It's the reason why the world is going to shit.Okay, so that was materialism... Now let me explain spirituality, from my point of view, as well as many others. I see the entire universe as one, so everything is a connection of myself. I don't want to hurt anyone or anything, because ultimately I am doing harm to myself (self-defense is obviously a different story though.) This means that the ingredients in food that ultimately harm us, would not be included. Man-made pollutants would not exist. Hate is useless. It only leads to more hate. Arguing is useless, all ideas should be considered (Of course, I'm saying this while typing up an argument lol). Life should not be spent trying to acquire green paper that some old government dudes said equals life points. So, a spiritual society would be one of sharing. We all work together. The crap that comes on TV, appears in magazines, the internet, etc. brainwashes society into being even more materialistic, so that shit would be gone too. It sounds disappointing, but TV isn't something that truly spiritual people are interested in anyways. It's life that interests them. Live life as if it is a ride, not a job. An adventure, not a burden. I use the internet because it is useful. I can communicate with people and I can obtain a vast amount of knowledge through it... But it is ultimately more useful in a materialist society than a spiritual one, but that could be reversed depending on the things users are exposed to. Materialists tend to think of past and future more than they think about now (maybe that is why you've been trying to convince me before and after exist lol). People that focus on now are happier. They aren't thinking "I can't believe what that asshole said earlier!" or "I'm going to let him have it when I see him later!". Those things don't exist, so no need to continue worrying about them.I better stop before I make this argument too long lol. I'll let Russell Brand explain the rest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kkpxi6MayY Well of course... I find it strange you think I wouldn't realize that... I figured you'd understand what I meant, when I said "just because".See, shit like that doesn't need to be pointed out! That is trying to belittle the other person. It does not lead to any positive progress. You said "just because" multiple times, so I responded accordingly. Sorry if that wasn't an accurate insight into your ultimate understanding of things, but I don't know you personally. It's not that I don't think you are smart enough to understand it, but sometimes it's better to point out what it seems like the other person missed to get a clear idea of where they stand.A reason I said I won't believe "just because" is you are alluding to god not being able to have evidence for means we should believe in god anyway.You can believe whatever you want. I choose to believe in God, because in my opinion that seems more logical... But we're only human, and I don't come programmed with knowledge of everything, so sometimes I stick with a guess that best suits me. I do not live my life with a fear of any sort of eternal damnation, but to me my personal realization that a "God" exists was a freeing thing. I didn't always look at things spiritually. I was much more materialistic before, and I still sometimes fall victim to materialism due to the society we live in, but my outlook, mood and joy I get out of life has significantly improved. Why question that? No, actually i genuinely try to understand the other view as much as possible, I am open to understanding why people believe in god, and I even at one point went through a phase where I tried to justify god's existence to myself.Well, that's good. You should continue to remain open-minded. If you are still interested in the subject of "God", I could give you some titles of books by philosophical thinkers who have put a lot of thought into the idea. They aren't religious. Actually, I'm sure you've heard of Aldous Huxley (Brave New World). He has several books on the topic, and he ultimately comes to a spiritual conclusion. Alan Watts is another brilliant philosopher, that I know has changed the beliefs of a few atheists. Many of his lectures are on YouTube.I don't need a reason to NOT believe in something, I need a reason TO believe in something.You need a reason for both. They go hand in hand. I believe in God, therefore I don't believe an unintelligent whatever created the universe. You on the other hand, believe that the unintelligent whatever created the universe, but don't believe in God.Agreed, but we do understand some, we may never fully understand everything, but that is the beauty of our world.I believe that we can come to a better understanding through spirituality, but that's me. I trust physicists over psychologists on subjects that are studied by physicists rather than psychologists...Well, the greatest physicist of all time, Albert Einstein, concluded that a God must exist (and that time doesn't lol). Spirituality is big amongst physicists. I think that Psychology Today article was written by a physicist by the way, but I'm not entirely sure.What is the difference in this context?How does a clock tick? Gears and different parts. Kind of like our brain and internal organs. Why does a clock tick? It notifies us of each passing second. Each time the hand moves, it clicks. So, why do we tick? Just about everything has some sort of purpose. Bees pollinate flowers, trees give us oxygen, rain waters plants, and so on. I personally believe we are here for spiritual growth. A tree is known for what it contains. If an apple is the highlight of an apple tree, then we may be the highlight of Earth. But the apples didn't just appear on the tree. They grew from the tree, and from our point of view, that's the only use we have for apple trees. We want apples to keep growing because we have a purpose for them. So could it be that God wants humans to keep "growing" because he has a purpose for them? I think we need to look within ourselves to find out who we truly are, and like I said, I think God is our higher Self... So we're God exploring himself. Maybe God is trying to understand who he truly is.