I'm interested what it does to a person and what it does to the brain. Right. Barbara. Growing up in New Jersey, I was raised as a Presbyterian, spent a fair amount of time in church. I know identify also as an atheist. When I travel, I do find myself drawn to churches, to sitting in the stillness of a church and to looking at the art and the architecture. I think that is a beautiful part of our history, but I do that as an atheist. And for my own sense of spirituality, I go to a Springsteen concert. Right. So, you know, there are some curious human behaviors that strike us as unusual, like,