some polynomial iterations or time in the pde sense and one other question so in the generation ban you're talking about a size free Rademacher bound right obtaining the margin with a very light regularization parameter president Ron a MicroBot might depend on say norms which is n have to be balanced against this resulting mark yes you should think of whatever norms is this let's concretely take the goal of which one which is just a Frobenius norm of everything then that would be weight decay okay all right so so you might ask um