for all people, so maybe everyone in this room has had a spiritual experience. They might not call it that, but they've had an experience where they've connected to something that's bigger than themselves that leaves them feeling awestruck, but not everyone would take the additional steps of trying to find an explanation in that or trying to find agency in that and so forth. But if we do go and focus on beliefs that do transcend just a sense that there's a larger reality that you were a part of and goes toward a supernatural belief in things that science