oh how likely so against the timid benchmark is a data set that many speech researchers work on this is one of those datasets where you know if you do point 1 percent better you write a paper um and a few years ago Holland was able to you know make what correspondent so I think we worked out something like like two thirds of a decade work for progress or something on this data set just by learning in this chart is outdated I made this child I think back when pauillac was publishing this paper since publishing this paper geoff hinton and