good generator net on the Toronto faces data set by doing layer wise pre-training I wasn't able to get the deep jointly trained model to fit that data set very well back then my guess is it would probably work now that we have patched norm we didn't have bachelor on back then you can view what Bing did as being a little bit like what you're suggesting because when you train the output layer of the generator in the training step it learns essentially a dictionary that looks a little bit like like wavelet dictionaries and then when