postman for the api design itself so when we are done with the design we already have a complete postman collections and we can use it for testing we can also automate it so yeah so we can use it uh we can use it in that way oh i i love this one yeah uh i actually have on one slide uh prepared for this yeah this is this was uh a common common question um so uh the graphql is one of those technologies that we have used uh and um how to say it uh we've used with it uh it's they're pretty simple so despite they're being described as uh