even minutes and if you're talking about a payment experience that's just not good enough because we are competing with with the payment experience that that 7 billion people are used to it or maybe not 7 billion people are used to to the pay wave type metropoliz experience but but we know that you can walk into a shop literally tap a card and within a fraction of a second the transaction is done so that's what we have to compete with and 5 seconds is even as it is it's just not good enough but by the reason we have this