divine force I and there was a period in my life a rather long time ago when I accepted something like that when I was a small child but it later on it came to see me there's no rational ground for that whatever it's sad that there's no rational ground for it and a lot of people think well who the hell needs a rational ground I have it on faith well okay but faith is not a reason a faith is not a ground for accepting something so I I think you're absolutely right that there are a lot of people for whom a certain metaphysical vision the