that no one here and one here dark public iris with curl doesn't learn as fast and we look at the details what happens there these are environments where the dynamics is fairly complex so this requires some more research with our hypothesis here has been that in those environments learning from pixels is particularly difficult because if you just look at the pixels the dynamic is not well captured in the sequence of frames you get to see for example if contact forces matter a lot and it's you can easily read those off from pixels