you I'll do this later to talk more about the state later as well I'll share of you what I think of as a as a good way as one as one of many promising directions in which to you know take research for for deep learning I think that's a scaling up so and happy how do we build effective deep learning algorithms right how do you get these animals work well well in fact how do you build effective machine learning algorithms you know so let's not back in history right about 20 years ago oh there were these debates about you know