they don't have a habit of doing it so so we don't want to exclude anybody in the process we want to include everybody so it turns out that our events tend to draw a good portion of men because of the science we have a lot of children now that are you know teenagers that are coming and people in their 20s we have great community of elders we have you know in our events sometimes 63 different cultures well coming to countries coming to our events between 50 and you know 65 so so we want it we want to make it so inclusive that