Some other just wild figures. So this is not just people representing the reality they saw before them, but rather there's an interest in what is not in front of you, what is not just here and now. We fast forward one more time. We go to Turkey, to this particular, perhaps temple, Gobekli Tepe, is dated to that period on a hill in Turkey. Massive 50 ton blocks that people moved onto a hillside and carved with, again, elaborate, largely animal, images. We think this is a ritual space. Not everyone agrees. This is contentious.