maybe if you make it deeper or over parametrized differently for which the plane randomly slice guardian descent would just need less than alpha 2 so less than 2p samples so i think that's an interesting kind of concrete question for this particular model and i i might have time for the third point stop me if i don't but i wanted to mention the third point about what can we say about the stochastic gradient descent so far i was only talking about gradients and or more precisely gradient flow because i was always considering the