got along with extremely well who actually they're two of them there's my tutor someone called Jim Hopkins who was a very nice guy I'm also interested in how the mind actually worked although he didn't know either and then there was a philosopher called Burnham Williams yes who was a very good philosopher later went to Berkeley I never met him again which was always a regret he used to hold Monday evening a sort of open house where you would go to his room if you're interesting and just discuss philosophy for an hour - and a number of people