for not for others and so that is about to come up yeah so so so okay so like kind of so we saw performance is similar and then a hypothesis says maybe they're just all doing the same things that doesn't seem to quite be the case and now like kind of let's look further into that and to look further into that let's do something really simple so this are the actual filters from the first convolutional layer of of ResNet that's kind of initialize with pre-trained weights so you trick take your rest net you pre train it on image net and this