existence of or the existence of spirituality or the existence of a certain spiritual nature of the universe that all of those are background presuppositions of their whole being and a whole mode of life but I I don't share any of that I think it's all for the I think it's almost all hot air that they don't have any ground for these and many of them would admit they don't have any ground but for me that's a reason for not accepting it whereas I can my acceptance that there is a world that exists independently of me that