If that really were to be considered an instinct, how do we explain the tremendous transformation that we're undergoing? So people are finding humanism communities, other communities with a different type of transcendent connection. I think there's a balance between what continues as very, very strong tradition that carries communities forward together with new ways of imagining some of these very same things that are coming about. The ways that people can experience religion now. I mean, they extend into communities with AI.