like that I think a lot of people that want to get into a I start thinking that they absolutely need to get a PhD or some other kind of credential like that I don't think that's actually a requirement anymore one way that you could get a lot of attention is to write good code and put it on github if you have an interesting project that solves the problem that someone working at the top lab one is itself once they find your github repositories they'll come find you and ask you to come work there a lot of the people that I've hired or