really clear in ideas or just had by everyone I think people people mistake this that think that the ideas are unique it's not ideas that are unique many people have the same ideas but some there's also execution and exact formalization and so on and exact level of specificity this all of this is really hard and then the honda says in 2009 dr. Hinton and two of his students used multi-layer neural nets to make major breakthrough and speech recognition that led directly to greatly improved and this of course Schrader who goes off by