there wasn't or a nerve eleven or seven so there you have already a problem of depth fifty because for each time step you have something like a virtual a layer and the expanded unrolled version of this Riccar network which is doing the speech recognition so these long time lags they translate into problem depth and most problems and this world Asajj that you really have to look far back in time to understand what is the problem and to solvent but just like with our CMS you don't necessarily need to when you look