they're trying to say we I'm new to this you know I much as possible try to point them to hate just keep at it don't get discouraged so you know every one of you here can do that you don't have to feel like you're a grandmaster to give people encouragement so I really appreciated that question and regardless of where your level is I think you have the opportunity to do that and again that's what makes Cagle a wonderful community I love the cattle forums there's so much useful content people can enjoy each other a month ago is actually when I met