algorithms I didn't have time at all here to talk about how that how the connections of that form but there are there are many such connections namely in this thing I briefly mentioned about how lower bounds can imply D randomization removing the roundness from algorithms and making them fully deterministic there are many more connections to be film I'm sure so just earlier this year my student Brin more Chapman and I showed that lower bound circuit lower bounds can in a particular sense be equivalent to a particular