the nature of the noise that i was describing in the in the equations and we can look at other data models these are not the only ones for which this this this can be written and we can look at networks that actually have hidden variables and of variants of the gradient descending stochastic guardian descent that have momentum for instance etc so this is hopefully to come and i just flashed back the list of papers from the beginning that that i covered in this store and open for the discussion if there is still time for the