name jurgen schmidhuber you again sorry this is this is absolutely great so both actually Schmid over and Hinton are on Twitter you can tweet at them and follow them this article here is a basically a critique of the press release of Honda when they awarded geoff hinton for his achievements and it goes through it step by step and we won't look at the whole thing but just two for you to get the flavor so here honda says dr. Hinton has created a number of technologies that have enabled the broader application of