the option yeah and again one of the other spreading things just about this field has been how far we've gotten pushing often where the developers of one paper or modeling architecture let me just push them log probability or the you know type 1 evals and then someone else coming along in another paper and showed oh this thing's actually great a type 2 evals so I think that's you know really reassuring and you know I'd often say that you could work on one or the other in isolation and often you see things that robustly