more now we've you know we've throughout this workshop we've seen lots and lots of interesting work on the neural tangent kernel and sort of thinking about these infinite with limits in the kernel regime versus the sort of the not the deep regime but like at least it to my kind of high level understanding it's not a direct mapping to what we're seeing here so I think it's kind of interesting to to sort of study this further and try and understand try and make this connection because there's probably some kind of a connection and