they wanted to get into computers it was an absolute disaster for them and that computer that I got into that by the way that's not a Timex Sinclair that's an Apple - that was my neighbor's that I used to go visit and and use their computer but my first computer had 2 kilobytes of RAM 2 kilobytes of RAM just to put things in perspective and so I taught myself basic I really enjoyed it right I wasn't necessarily very good but I really enjoyed it my high school taught a class in Pascal programming probably maybe not super familiar to a