or whether you go to gain some correlation with the signal and what i'm saying in words here we can actually put into equations so here the first equation is where about are the threshold states and the second equation is telling us you know derived both from the gates rise approach and directly also from the dynamic domain field theory but again the details are not shown here is the condition for uh the lowest eigenvalue of the corresponding hessian of the minima being having an eigenvector that points towards the