artifacts, but they are kind of artifacts of the past, you know? If we decide to light candles on Friday night, I'm using candlesticks that my great-grandmother schlepped from Russia and that people have been doing this for over 5000 years, and that's meaningful. I also think that Judaism is an interesting moral code that is somewhat ... emphasizes somewhat more behavior over intent, which is appealing to us in some ways. I would say we're ... colloquially we're atheists as a ... definitely in our house, although