larger and larger and larger and larger the e1 cells will like it better and better and better and respond more and more and more up to a point but then beyond that they'll start being suppressed as if there's a suppressive surround around the response and what we find is that the the pet net also has this quality so if you look in again the bottom layer the response goes up to a certain size of a dot stimulus and then it's suppressed but interestingly Rick borns lab at Harvard back in 2013 found that if you cool downstream visual areas