closed off and guarded or open do they how do they self reflect where they can track it better mmm well that's a big question but I will tell you this that you demystify the word meditation and the word meditation literally means become familiar with yeah when you become so familiar with your thoughts so aware of your emotions so conscious of your habits that you wouldn't go unconscious to them again now you're no longer the program right so so getting people disentangled from that program we found out as a formula and when we teach