really hard to say which one of the two is better now that we have a conversation we also need to have some conversation messages uh again here is some we can have a resource type message and then we can have a design choice do we group the messages into conversations or we connect them directly to the participants so for example we would have a message that has a content it has a sent on and it has uh is read it's always read by the recipient uh and then we can have a relationship that says okay it's part of the conversation x it