know either something can be done or it can't be done you get and you get a hardness reduction so it's so I mean in one case you get an algorithm or you get a hard introduction I mean in both cases you get some kind of algorithm but but I don't know I mean or any of them unconditional I don't know I need a lower bound you get unconditional yeah yeah I think it's a different kind of instance it's very interesting kind of instance but yeah I think I think it's different from what I'm trying to say but that's I didn't think I thought