you just presented in this fight and you're asking about the de mammal no like if you see reptile which is a first-order method for meta learning instead of mammal can it get over some of the second-order gradient problems you just presented here yeah so as I mentioned on the on the first idea I listed here both first-order mammal and reptile do by using this crude approximation you can have a faster optimization procedure and and it potentially can be less stable but the the main benefit that you get from it is