in a small town in Ohio and my brother John with my got me into science and he went on to Yale my brother Bill one on the Cornell and we had this incredible laboratory in the basement which they would not let me have access to but they went off to college and I suddenly had this fully equipped laboratory including the the radio from the aircraft carrier the intrepid my father was on it and after world war ii he got the radio so I was listening to all sorts of things behind the Iron Curtain I was just having a fabulous time so my dream was