that many of us do okay that got me kind of far I was only using MATLAB in some proprietary software me neither of which you can actually use to win a kaggle competition and at least at the time MATLAB wasn't the best tool so I realized I've got to learn Python so that was another big major learning step the second competition I entered I actually did okay I came in 34th out of 950 34 from the top this time and I use logistic regression not because it was the right tool it was literally the only algorithm I knew in machine learning so