a scientist very few scientists would do that a scientist will get up and give a talk yes and make some claims and tell you the evidence maybe philosophers will read their papers and they'll sort of the way they read them is significant so with philosophy it's it's how you say something that's important and the words you say it was that's the content and it's because there is no other content so in in philosophy there's no difference between something sounding really good and something being good yes there's no empirical test yeah in