there's an algorithm the other ones trying to say nope you know so so the way I presented there really a opposite to each other okay and the second thing you learn when way or another so the algorithms tribe has an easier life somehow somehow designing algorithms is just much easier than proving lower balance and this intuition is really really strong I mean you want to say look if I design an algorithm I just have to give you one piece of code it's just going to work and solve the problem no matter what but if just to show a