friends action was that trying to train two neural nets at the same time would be too hard so it was more about the training process unless so my skepticism would be you know I'm sure you could train it but the thing would converge to would not be able to generate anything reasonable and any kind of reasonable realism yeah so so part of what all of us were thinking about when we had this conversation was deep Bolton machines which a lot of us in the lab including me were a big fan of deep bolts and machines at the time they involved two