architectures are different we looked at Khan Wan specifically for that because it's sort of below all of that now you are getting feedback from kind of the skip connections that you aren't getting but I think this this is also true for for say like something like Inception as well I'm just sort of showing showing resonate here and I think I think what's really going on is to do with sort of to do with the size of these models so yeah so two quick points one point that's kind of interesting is that everyone loves Gabor filters but these models are