Nobody's as interested in harmony as they are in conflict, I'm afraid. 2015, Pew Research Foundation found that the percent of Americans that agreed with the statement that science and religion are often in conflict, they found that agreement with that was almost 60% and that again is often how the conversation is framed. Science versus religion. That is an important question. It may come up here tonight, but it's not the focus of what we're talking about here tonight. And so we're asking ourselves, can we use science to illuminate religion?