my kind of hypothesis is is that all these methods what they're kind of trying to do is to just tune the neural network to the let's say the orders of magnitude of the of the input data and also to the kinds of augmentations that the humans come up with and that's a very important point so the Ottoman tations and here we said you know it's it's kind of a rotation and the crop the kind of augmentation really seemed to play a role so this paper finds that on C 410 where the state of the art I believe is something like ninety six ninety seven