came from God because they were good and she couldn't use the fact that God you couldn't sort of use this as evidence that God was good because you just assumed they came from God because they were good so it was that's what you would call a circular argument now I didn't know about circular arguments but I knew there was something deeply suspicious about what she just said and I guess I was in a mood to argue I argued a lot I was very small by the way I was a smallest boy in the school ah the smallest and lightest not an