these medications very well so virtually everybody comes to the hospital with a TI a or an ischemic stroke is going to expect to go out on one of these statin agents unless their cholesterol is really low on its own and just like blood pressure what the studies have shown is that the lower the bad cholesterol the better so the LDL cholesterol we used to think get it down to 120 then 100 now we're targeting more like 70 or 80 for the LDL bad cholesterol again particularly in people who've got evidence of atherosclerosis