to be you know thinking that it's not even their own arms sometimes you mean you can lift up their weak left arm and say whose arm is this and they say well that's my aunt Tilly's arm or they or that's your arm they don't even recognize that part so again you can see why we have trouble getting people in because stroke has a lot of complicated different symptoms and that it's hard for the patient who's having a stroke to call 911 so somebody else has to do it right stroke in the back part of the brain can be very confusing also because sometimes