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ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุงู†ุทู„ุงู‚ุงู‹ ู…ู…ุง ุณู…ุนู†ุงู‡ ุจุฃู†ู†ุง ู„ุณู†ุง ูุนู„ุงู‹ ุนู„ู‰ ุงุชุตุงู„ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุงุชุตุงู„ ุงู„ู„ุงุฒู… ูˆู‡ุฐุง ูุนู„ุงู‹ ู…ุง ู†ุฎุชุจุฑู‡ ููŠ ุฃูˆุบู†ุฏุง.!
i think that based on what we heard we are not actually in required contact and this is what we actually test in Uganda.!
ูุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูŠูƒูˆู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุทูู„ุงู‹ ููŠ ุนุงุฆู„ุฉ ูู‚ูŠุฑุฉ ูู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุทูู„ ู„ูŠุณ ุจู…ูุฑุฏู‡ ุฏุงุฎู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุนุงุฆู„ุฉ.!
as when there is a child in a poor family this child is not alone in this family.!
ูู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุฃุดู‚ุงุก ูˆุดู‚ูŠู‚ุงุช ูˆุฃุทูุงู„ ุขุฎุฑูŠู† ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ูŠุณุชููŠุฏูˆุง ู…ู† ุงู„ุฐู‡ุงุจ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุฏุฑุณุฉ.!
as there are brothers and sisters and other children that should also benefit from going to school.!
ูˆู„ุง ูŠูƒููŠ ุฅุนุทุงุคู‡ู… ุฅุนุทุงุคู‡ู… ู…ู†ุญุฉ ูˆุงุญุฏุฉ ุจู„ ูŠู†ุจุบู‰ ุฃู†ุŒ ูˆู†ุญู† ู‡ุฐุง ู…ุง ู‚ู…ู†ุง ุจู‡ ุŒ ุฃูŠ ุฅู†ู†ุง ู‚ู…ู†ุง ุจุชุฏุฑูŠุจ ุงู„ุฃุทูุงู„.!
and it is not enough to give them one grant, but we should, and this is what we did that is we trained children.!
ูˆ ู‚ู…ู†ุง ุจุชุฏุฑูŠุจ ุงู„ุฃู‡ุงู„ูŠ ุนู„ู‰ ู…ุง ู†ุณู…ูŠู‡ ุจุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู†ูˆุง ุฃูƒุซุฑ ุฅู†ุชุงุฌุงู‹ ุฅู†ุชุงุฌุงู‹ ุฃูˆ ุฃู† ู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ุฃู† ู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ุงู„ุชูุงุนู„ ุจูŠู† ุฌูŠู„ูŠู† .!
and we trained the parents on what we call to be more productive or that through interaction between two generations.!
ุจู…ุนู†ู‰ ุฃู†ู‡ ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูˆู‚ุฏ ุฃุฏุฑุฌู†ุง ุฐู„ูƒ ุฏุงุฎู„ ุจุฑู†ุงู…ุฌ ุจุฑู†ุงู…ุฌ ุงู„ู‚ุถุงุก ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ูู‚ุฑ.!
meaning that we when included that in a program of eradication of poverty.!
ูˆู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู…ู‚ุงุฑุจุฉุŒ ู…ู‚ุงุฑุจุฉ ุงู„ุฌูŠู„ูŠู† ุŒ ุฃูŠ ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูŠุชูˆุฌู‡ ุฃุญุฏ ุงู„ุฃุจู†ุงุก ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุฏุฑุณุฉ.!
and through this approach, the two generation approach, that is when one of the kids goes to school.!
ูŠู‚ูˆู… ุจุนุฏ ุฐู„ูƒ ุจุชุนู„ูŠู… ุงู„ุขุฎุฑูŠู† ูˆู‡ูƒุฐุง. ูˆู„ูƒูŠ ูŠุฐู‡ุจ ูƒู„ ูˆุงุญุฏ ุจุฏูˆุฑู‡ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุฏุฑุณุฉ.!
he then teaches the others and so on. and so that everyone can go to school in his turn.!
ููƒุงู† ุนู„ูŠู†ุง ุฅุฐุงู‹ ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„ ุงู„ู‚ูŠุงู… ุจุฐู„ูƒ ูˆู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ุจุฑู†ุงู…ุฌ ุงู„ู‚ุถุงุก ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ูู‚ุฑ.!
we should have then before doing that and through eradication of poverty program.!
ุชุจูŠู† ุฃู† ุงู„ุชุนูˆูŠู„ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฐุงุช ูˆุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ู†ูุณ.
it became clear that self-reliance.
ู‡ูˆ ุจุญุฏ ุฐุงุชู‡ ุงู„ู…ุญูุฒ ุงู„ุฑุฆูŠุณูŠ ูˆุฑุงุก ู†ุฌุงุญ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ูŠุฉ ุจุฏู„ุงู‹ ุงู„ุงุชูƒุงู„ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุญูƒูˆู…ุฉ ุฃูˆ ุงู„ู‚ุทุงุน ุงู„ุนุงู….!
is in itself the main stimulus behind the success of this process instead of depending on the government or public sector.!
ู…ุง ูŠุชุถุญ ู…ู† ูƒู„ ุฐู„ูƒ ู‡ูˆ ุฃู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุทุฑู‚ ุงู„ุงุจุชูƒุงุฑูŠุฉ ุงู„ุฌุฏูŠุฏุฉ ู‚ุฏ ุฃู†ุชุฌุช ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ู†ู…ุงุฐุฌ ุฌุฏูŠุฏุฉ.!
what is clear from all that is that these new innovative methods have also produced new models.!
ู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ุงู„ุจุญุซ ุฃูˆ ู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ุงู„ูˆุณุงุฆู„ ุงู„ู…ุณุชุฎุฏู…ุฉ ู„ู„ุจุญุซ ุนู† ุฃุดูŠุงุก ุฌุฏูŠุฏุฉ.!
through research or through the means used to search for new things.!
ุฃู†ุง ุงุณู…ูŠ ู…ุดุงู„ ูƒูŠู…ุงู† ูˆุฃู†ุง ููŠ ุงู„ู‡ู†ุฏ ู„ู‚ุฏ ู„ู‚ุฏ ูุนู„ุงู‹ ุชุจูŠู† ู„ูŠ.!
my name is Mishal Kiman and i am from India it actually became clear to me.!
ุงู„ูุงุฑู‚ ุจูŠู† ู…ุง ู‚ุงู„ู‡ ุงู„ุฏูƒุชูˆุฑ ุฌูˆุจุชุง ูˆู…ุง ุณู…ุนู†ุงู‡ ู‡ู†ุง ูู‰ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุญู„ู‚ุฉ.!
the difference between what was said by doctor Gupta and what we heard in this session.!
ูู„ู‚ุฏ ู‚ุงู„ ุงู„ุฏูƒุชูˆุฑ ุฌูˆุจุชุง ุจุฃู† ุงู„ุงุจุชูƒุงุฑ ูŠุฃุชูŠ ู…ู† ุฃุณูู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃุนู„ู‰.!
as it was said by doctor Gupta that innovation comes from bottom to top.!
ุฃูŠ ู…ู† ุงู„ู‚ุงุนุฏุฉ ุงู„ุดุนุจูŠุฉ ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃุนู„ู‰ ูˆู‡ู†ุง. ูุณุคุงู„ูƒ ูƒูŠู ูŠู…ูƒู† ูุนู„ุงู‹ ุฃู† ุชู†ุชุธุฑ ู…ู† ุฃู† ูŠุตุจุญ ุงู„ุทู„ุงุจ ู…ุจุฏุนูˆู† ูˆู…ุจุชูƒุฑูˆู†.!
or from grassroots to top and here. your question how can you actually expect from students to become creative and innovative.!
ุจูŠู†ู…ุง ุจูŠู†ู…ุง ูŠุชู„ู‚ูˆู† ุชุนู„ูŠู…ู‡ู… ู…ู† ู…ุนู„ู…ูŠู† ู„ุง ูŠุชุญู„ูˆู† ุจุงู„ุงุจุชูƒุงุฑ ุฅุทู„ุงู‚ุงู‹.!
while they receive their education from teachers who are not innovative at all.!
ู„ู†ุณุชู…ุน ุจุนุฏ ุฅู„ู‰ ุณุคุงู„ ุขุฎุฑ ูŠู‚ูˆู„ ุงู„ู…ู†ุดุท ูู„ุชุชูุถู„ูˆุง ุจุฅุนุทุงุก ุงู„ู…ูŠูƒุฑูˆ ู„ู„ุณูŠุฏุฉ ููŠ ุขุฎุฑ ุงู„ู‚ุงุนุฉ.!
let's listen then to another question the moderator says please give the microphone to the lady at the back of the room.!
ุงุณู…ูŠ ุฌูˆุฑุฌูŠุช ูŠุงูƒู† ูˆุฃู†ู†ูŠ ุฃู†ุง ุฃุจุญุซ ุนู† ุจุฑุงู…ุฌ ุชุนู„ูŠู…ูŠุฉ ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ู‡ู„ ู‡ู„ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู†ู…ุงุฐุฌ ุชุนู„ูŠู…ูŠุฉ.!
my name is Georgette Yakin and i search for other educational programs are there educational models.!
ุชุดุฑูƒ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ู‚ุฑุฑุงุช ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู…ูŠุฉ ุดุฑูƒุงุช ุฃูˆ ุฃุนู…ุงู„ ุชุณุงุนุฏ ุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูŠู† ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุฏุงุฑุณ ุนู„ู‰ ุชู†ู…ูŠุฉ ุฑูˆุญ ุงู„ู…ู‚ุงูˆู„ุฉ.!
engaged in the educational curricula companies or business that help teachers at schools to develop the spirit of contracting.!
ู„ุฏู‰ ุงู„ุฃุทูุงู„ ุฃูˆ ู…ุณุงุนุฏุชู‡ู… ุนู„ู‰ ุฅู†ุดุงุก ุฃุนู…ุงู„ ุชุณุงุนุฏู‡ู… ุนู„ู‰ .!
in children or help them to establish works that help them to .!
ุดูƒุฑุงู‹ ุงุณู…ูŠ ู…ูˆู„ูŠุณูŠุง ุณูƒู‰ ูˆุฃู†ุง ู…ุฏุฑุณุฉ ู…ู† ู„ูˆุณูˆุชูˆ.!
thanks my name is Molesia Ski and i am a teacher from [NE: Lesotho].!
ู†ุญู† ููŠ ู…ุฏุงุฑุณู†ุง ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุฃุฑุจุนูŠู† ุทูู„ุงู‹ ููŠ ูƒู„ ููŠ ูƒู„ ุตู ูˆู‡ุฐุง ูƒุซูŠุฑ ุฌุฏุงู‹.!
in our schools there are forty children in each class and this is too much.!
ูˆุงุชุถุญ ู„ู†ุง ุฎู„ุงู„ ุณู†ูˆุงุช ุนุฏูŠุฏุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ุฎุจุฑุฉ ู‡ูˆ ุฃู† ู…ุง ูŠุซูŠุฑ ูุนู„ุงู‹ ุฃูˆ ุจุงู„ุฃุญุฑู‰ ู…ุง ูŠุฎูู ู…ู† ุชุญููŠุฒ ุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูŠู†.!
and it became clear to us throughout many years of experience that what is raising or rather mitigating the motivation of teachers.!
ู‡ูˆ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุนุฏุฏ ุงู„ูƒุจูŠุฑ ู…ู† ุงู„ุทู„ุงุจ ุฏุงุฎู„ ุงู„ุตู ุงู„ูˆุงุญุฏ ููƒูŠู ูŠู…ูƒู† ูุนู„ุงู‹ ู…ุง ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ูˆุณุงุฆู„ ุงู„ู†ุงุฌุญุฉ.!
is this large number of students per class so how can actually what are the successful means.!
ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ุชุณุงุนุฏู†ุง ุฅู„ู‰ ุฎูุถ ุนุฏุฏ ุงู„ุทู„ุงุจ ููŠ ุงู„ุตู ุงู„ูˆุงุญุฏุŸ ูู…ุง ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุชุฏุงุจูŠุฑ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุฑูˆู†ู‡ุง ู…ู†ุงุณุจุฉุŸ!
that can help us in reducing the number of students per class? what are the measures that you see suitable?!
ุฃูˆ ู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ุจุฑุฃูŠูƒู… ุงู„ุนุฏุฏ ุงู„ุฃู…ุซู„ ู…ู† ุงู„ุทู„ุงุจ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ูŠุณุชุทูŠุน ู…ุนู„ู… ูˆุงุญุฏ ู…ู† ุชุนู„ูŠู…ู‡ ูˆู„ูƒูŠ ูŠุฃุชูŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู… ู…ุณุชูˆููŠุงู‹ ู„ู„ุดุฑูˆุท ุงู„ู…ุทู„ูˆุจุฉุŸ!
or in your opinion what is the optimum number that a teacher can educate and so that this education can fulfill the required conditions?!
ุงู„ู…ู†ุดุท: ูƒูŠู ุชุฑูŠู† ุฐู„ูƒ ุดุงู†ูˆู† ู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ุฌูˆุงุจูƒ ุนู„ู‰ ุฐู„ูƒ ู„ู‚ุฏ ุจุฏุฃู†ุง ููŠ ุจุฑูŠุฏุฌ.!
the moderator: how can you see that Shanon and what is your answer to that we began in Bridge.!
ุจุงู„ุงู†ุทู„ุงู‚ ู…ู† ุงู„ุจูŠุงู†ุงุช ูˆู„ูŠุณ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู…ู† ู…ู†ุธูˆู…ุฉ ุชุนู„ูŠู…ูŠุฉ ุณูŠุฆุฉ ุฃูˆ ุฌูŠุฏุฉ ุฃูƒุซุฑ ู…ู† ุบูŠุฑ.!
withstarting from data and there is no more bad or good educational system than others.!
ุฃูƒุงู†ุช ููŠ ุงู„ู‚ุทุงุน ุงู„ุนุงู… ุฃูˆ ููŠ ุงู„ู‚ุทุงุน ุงู„ุฎุงุต ูู†ุญู† ู‚ุจู„ ุฃู† ู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจุงุชุฎุงุฐ ุฃูŠ ู‚ุฑุงุฑ.!
whether in the public or the private sector as before we take any decision.!
ู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจุฏุฑุงุณุฉ ูƒู„ ุงู„ุจูŠุงู†ุงุช ุงู„ู…ุชูˆูุฑุฉ ูˆุชุญู„ูŠู„ู‡ุง ู„ูƒูŠ ู†ุฑู‰ ู…ุง ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ู†ุชุงุฆุฌ ูุนู„ุงู‹ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฏู„ุช ุนู„ู‰ ุนู„ู‰ ุญุณู† ูุนู„ุงู‹ ุนู„ู‰ ู†ุฌุงุญู‡ุง ุฃู… ู„ุง.!
we consider and analyze all the available data to see what are the results that actually proved its goodness actually its success or not.!
ูˆุฅู†ู†ุง ูˆู„ู‚ุฏ ุงุชุถุญ ู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ุงู„ุฏุฑุงุณุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ู‚ู…ู†ุง ุจู‡ุง ุจุฃู† ู…ุง ูŠูƒู„ู ุงู„ุฃูƒุซุฑ ู…ู† ุบูŠุฑู‡.!
and it became clear to us from the studies that we did that what costs more than others.!
ู‡ูˆ ูุนู„ุงู‹ ุชุฏุฑูŠุจ ุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูŠู† ูˆ ูŠู…ูƒู† ู…ุซู„ุงู‹ ุฃู† ูŠูˆุถุน ู…ุนู„ู…ุงู† ููŠ ุงู„ุตู ุงู„ูˆุงุญุฏ.!
is actually teacher training and two teachers can for example be placed in one class.!
ู„ูƒูŠ ูŠุชู†ุงูˆุจูˆุง ูุนู„ุงู‹ ุนู„ู‰ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ูุฆุงุช ุงู„ู…ุฎุชู„ูุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชูƒูˆู† ููŠ ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ุตู.!
to alternate on the different groups that exist in this class.!
ูˆ ุงู„ู…ุดูƒู„ุฉ ู„ูŠุณุช ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูŠู† ุงู„ู…ุดูƒู„ุฉ ู‡ูŠ ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุณุชูˆูŠุงุช ุงู„ู…ุชูุงูˆุชุฉ ุฏุงุฎู„ ุงู„ุตู ุงู„ูˆุงุญุฏ.!
andthe problem is not in teachers the problem is in the varying levels in the same class.!
ูˆุงู„ู…ุดูƒู„ุฉ ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ุฃูˆ ุงู„ุณุคุงู„ ูŠูƒู…ู† ููŠ ุงู„ู…ูˆุงุฏ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠู†ุจุบูŠ ุงู„ู…ูˆุงุฏ ุงู„ุชุฏุฑูŠุณูŠุฉ ุฃูˆ ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู…ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠู†ุจุบูŠ ุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู…ู‡ุง .!
and also the problem or the problem lies in the teaching or educational subjects that should be used.!
ูˆูƒู„ ุฐู„ูƒ ูุนู„ุงู‹ ู…ู‡ู…ุงู‹ ูˆุงู„ูŠูˆู… ูŠู…ูƒู† ุงู„ู‚ูˆู„ ุจุฃู† ุจุฃู† ุตูุงู‹ ู…ู† ุฎู…ุณุฉ ูˆุนุดุฑูŠู† ุฅู„ู‰ ุฎู…ุณุฉ ูˆุซู„ุงุซูŠู† ุชู„ู…ูŠุฐุงู‹ .!
andall this is really important and today it can be said that a class of twenty five to thirty five students.!
ู„ูŠุณ ู„ูŠุณ ุจุงู„ุณูŠุฆ ูˆูŠู…ูƒู† ูˆูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ูŠูƒูˆู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุตูุงู‹ ูˆุงุญุฏ ูŠุถู… ุฎู…ุณุฉ ูˆุฎู…ุณูŠู† ุทุงู„ุจุงู‹.!
is not bad and it can be there a class including fifty five students.!
ู„ุง ู…ุดูƒู„ุฉ ุฅุฐุง ู…ุง ูƒุงู†ูˆุง ุฌู…ูŠุนุงู‹ ู…ู† ู†ูุณ ุงู„ู…ุณุชูˆู‰ ุงู„ุณุคุงู„ ูŠู‚ูˆู„ ุงู„ู…ู†ุดุท ุฅุฐุง ู…ุง ุฅุฐุง ุฃุฑุฏู†ุง ูุนู„ุงู‹.!
no problem if they are all from the same level and the question the moderator says if we really want.!
ุฃู† ู†ุชู…ูƒู† ู…ู† ู…ู† ุงู„ูˆุตูˆู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ู†ุชุงุฆุฌ ู‡ุงู…ุฉ ู…ู† ู‚ู„ูŠู„ ุฃูˆ ู…ู† ู…ู† ู…ุง ู†ุฏุฎุฑู‡ ููŠ ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ู…ูˆุงุฑุฏ .!
to be able to reach important results from little or from what we saved in those resources.!
ููŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ุชูƒูˆู† ุงู„ุฃู…ูˆุฑ ุชู„ู‚ุงุฆูŠุฉ ุฃูˆ ู…ู†ุธู…ุฉ ุจุดูƒู„ู ุชู„ู‚ุงุฆูŠ ูู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุฌูˆุงุจ ุนู„ู‰ ุฐู„ูƒ .
so things should be automatic or automatically organized so what is the answer to that.
โ€ข ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุชู‚ูˆู„ ุงู„ุณูŠุฏุฉ ุดุงู†ูˆู† ุงู„ู…ุณุฃู„ุฉ ู‡ูŠ ุฃู†ู†ุง ู†ู‚ูˆู… ู‚ุจู„ ุฅุตุฏุงุฑ ุฃูŠ ุชุนู„ูŠู…ุงุช ุจุนู…ู„ุงู‹ ู‡ุงู…ุงู‹ ุฌุฏุงู‹.!ยถ
โ€ข i think says Mrs. Shanon says that before issuing any instructions we do a very important work.!ยถ
ู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจุฏุฑุงุณุงุช ูˆู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจู…ุณุญู ูƒุงู…ู„ู ู„ูƒู„ ู„ูƒู„ ู…ุง ู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจู‡ ููŠ ููŠ ู…ุฏุงุฑุณู†ุง.!
we do studies and do a complete survey for all what we do in our schools.!
ุนู„ู‰ ุตุนูŠุฏ ุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูŠู† ุนู„ู‰ ุตุนูŠุฏ ุงู„ู…ูˆุงุฑุฏ ุงู„ู…ุชุงุญุฉ ู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจุชุตูˆูŠุฑ ูƒู„ ู…ุง ูŠุฌุฑูŠ ุฏุงุฎู„ ุฏุงุฎู„ ู‚ุงุนุฉ ุงู„ุชุฏุฑูŠุณ .!
at the level of teachers at the level of available resources we shoot all what is going on in classroom.!
ูˆู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจุนุฏ ุฐู„ูƒ ู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ุชุญู„ูŠู„ ุงู„ุจูŠุงู†ุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ู†ูƒูˆู† ู‚ุฏ ุฌู…ุนู†ุงู‡ุง .!
and then we through analyzing data that we had collected.!
ู†ุนูˆุฏ ุจุนุฏ ุฐู„ูƒ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูŠู† ู„ูƒูŠ ู†ุฑู‰ ู…ุนู‡ู… ุชู…ุงู…ุงู‹ ู…ุง ู‚ุฏ ู…ุง ุฃุฎูู‚ูˆุง ู…ุง ุฃุฎูู‚ูˆุง ุจู‡ ู…ุง ู‡ูˆ ูˆุฌู‡ ุงู„ู‚ุตูˆุฑ ู‡ู†ุง ุฃูˆ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ .!
then we come back to teachers to completely see with them what they failed. what is the shortcoming here of there.!
ูˆ ุฐู„ูƒ ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ูŠุดุนุฑ ุงู„ู…ุนู„ู… ุจุฃู†ู‡ ูุนู„ุงู‹ ุทุฑู ุฃุณุงุณูŠ ูˆุฑูƒู† ุฃุณุงุณูŠ ููŠ ุนู…ู„ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชุฏุฑูŠุณ .!
and this also makes the teacher feel that he is a key party and a cornerstone in the teaching process.!
ูˆู‡ุฐุง ูŠุฌุจ ุจุดุฃู†ู‡ ุฃู† ู†ุนุฑู ุฃูˆ ุจุงู„ุฃุญุฑู‰ ุฃู† ู†ุนุฑู ูƒูŠู ู†ุชู†ุงูˆู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃู…ูˆุฑ ุจุงู„ุชุนุงูˆู† ู…ุน ุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูŠู† . ูˆุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูˆู†.!
and we should know about this or rather know how to address these matters in cooperation with the teachers. and teachers.!
ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ู†ู‚ูˆู… ูุนู„ุงู‹ ุจู…ุนุงูˆู†ุชู‡ู… ุจู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ูู„ุง ูŠุนูˆุฏ ู„ู‡ู… ุจุนุฏ ุฐู„ูƒ ู‡ู… ููŠ ููŠ ุนู…ู„ูŠุงุช ุงู„ุชุฏุฑูŠุณ.!
when we actually cooperate with them in this way it does not come back to them after that in the teaching processes.!
ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูŠุนุฑููˆู† ุจุฃู†ู‡ู… ูุนู„ุงู‹ ูŠู†ุนู…ูˆู† ุจุงู„ุฅุณู†ุงุฏ ุงู„ู„ุงุฒู… ู…ู† ู‚ุจู„ู†ุง ู†ุญู† .!
when they know that they actually enjoy the essential support from us.!
ุณุคุงู„ ู„ูƒ ุฅู‚ุจุงู„ ูƒูŠู ูƒูŠู ูุนู„ุงู‹ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุงู„ู‚ูˆู„ ุจุฃู† ุงู„ูˆุณุงุฆู„ ุงู„ุญุฏูŠุซุฉ.!
a question for you Iqbal how can actually be said that the modern means.!
ู…ู† ุดุฃู†ู‡ุง ุฃู† ุชุณุงุนุฏ ูƒุซูŠุฑุงู‹ ุนู„ู‰ ุนู„ู‰ ุฅุฏุฎุงู„ ุงู„ู…ุฒูŠุฏ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุญูุฒุงุช ู„ุฏู‰ ุงู„ุทู„ุงุจ ู…ุซู„ ุงู„ุชุนู„ู… ุจุงู„ุญุงุณูˆุจ ุฃูˆ ุบูŠุฑู‡ ุŸ!
would help a lot in introducing more stimuli for students like learning with computer or others?!
ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ู†ุญู† ู‡ู†ุง ู†ุญุงูˆู„ ุฃู† ู†ุนุงู„ุฌ ู…ุดูƒู„ุฉ ุฐุงุช ู…ุณุชูˆูŠุงุช ู…ุฎุชู„ูุฉ ูˆุงู„ู…ุณุฃู„ุฉ ูุนู„ุงู‹ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ู†ุง ุฃูˆ ุงู„ุณุคุงู„ ุงู„ุฌูˆู‡ุฑูŠ!
in fact we are trying here to address a problem with different levels and actually the issue for us or the core question!
ู‡ูˆ ูƒูŠู ู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู…ูŠุฉ ูˆู†ุจุชุนุฏ ุนู† ุงู„ุทุฑู‚ ุงู„ู†ู…ุทูŠุฉ ู„ูƒูŠ ุชุฃุชูŠ ุงู„ู†ุชูŠุฌุฉ ูุนู„ุงู‹ ู…ุชุทุงุจู‚ุฉ.!
is how can we do this educational process and stay away from the typical methods so that result can be identical.!
ู„ู…ุง ู†ุชูˆุฎุงู‡ ู…ู†ู‡ุง ูˆูˆ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ููŠ ููŠ ุงู„ุจุฑุงุฒูŠู„ ู…ุซู„ุงู‹ ู†ู…ูˆุงู‹ ู‡ุงุฆู„ุงู‹ .!
to what we envisage from it and there in Brazil for example there is a tremendous growth.!
ูˆ ุงู„ุจุฑุงุฒูŠู„ ู…ุนุฑูˆูุฉ ุจุฃู†ู‡ุง ุงู„ูŠูˆู… ุฃูˆุณุน ุณูˆู‚ุงู‹ ู„ ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู… ุนู„ู‰ ุตุนูŠุฏ ู†ู…ูˆ ุงู„ูˆุณุงุฆู„ ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู…ูŠุฉ ูˆ ู†ุธู… ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู….!
andBrazil is known today to be a wider market for education at the level of growth of educational methods and educational systems.!
ูˆู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ุฐู„ูƒ ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ุฃุตุจุญุช ุงู„ู…ุฏุงุฑุณ ู„ู… ุชุนุฏ ุงู„ู…ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุนู„ุจุฉ ุงู„ุฌุงู…ุฏุฉ ุจู„ ุฃุตุจุญุช ู„ู†ู‚ูˆู„ ู…ุฑูƒุฒุงู‹ ู…ุฑูƒุฒุงู‹ ู†ุดุทุงู‹.!
and also through this school is no longer that solid box but it has become let's say an active center.!
ูŠู†ุชุฌ ุงู„ู†ุชุงุฆุฌ ุงู„ู…ุทู„ูˆุจุฉ ูˆู…ุง ู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจู‡ ููŠ ุงู„ูˆุงู‚ุน ุฅูŠุฐุงุก ุงู„ู†ุธู… ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู…ูŠุฉ ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุทู„ุจ ู…ู† ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ู†ุธู….!
that produces the required results and what we do in fact the educational systems is to ask these systems.!
ุฃู† ุชุนุทูŠ ู†ุชุงุฆุฌ ู†ุชุงุฆุฌ ุญุณู†ุฉ ูˆ ู„ูŠุณ ุฃู† ุชู†ุฏุฑุฌ ูุนู„ุงู‹ ููŠ ู†ู…ุท ููŠ ููŠ ู†ู…ุท ู…ุนูŠู†.!
to give results good and not to be actually included in a pattern in a certain pattern.!
ุณุคุงู„ ู‡ู„ ุงู„ู…ู‚ุงุฑุจุฉ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชู‚ุถูŠ ูุนู„ุงู‹ ุจุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู… ู„ู†ู‚ูˆู„ ู‡ู„ ุฃู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุนู„ู…ูŠุฉ ู„ูˆ ุตุญ ุงู„ุชุนุจูŠุฑ.!
a question does the approach that actually requires using let's say is there a scientific way so to speak.!
ู…ู† ุฃุฌู„ ุงู„ู†ู‡ูˆุถ ุจุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุงุจุชูƒุงุฑุงุช ุงู„ุดุนุจูŠุฉ ูˆุงุณุชุฎุฏุงู…ู‡ุง ููŠ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู…ูŠุฉุŸ!
to promote those popular innovations and use them in the educational process?!
ู†ุนู… ูŠู…ูƒู† ุงู„ู‚ูˆู„ ุจุฃู† ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู†ู‚ุงุด ู‡ูˆ ู†ู‚ุงุด ูุนู„ุงู‹ ู‚ุฏ ุญุธูŠ ุจุงู„ูƒุซูŠุฑ ู…ู† ู„ู†ู‚ูˆู„ ุงู„ุงู‡ุชู…ุงู… ูˆุบูŠุฑู‡ุง.!
yes we can say that this discussion is a discussion that has actually got a lot of let's say attention and others.!
ูˆ ู‚ุงุนุฉ ุงู„ุชุฏุฑูŠุณ ู„ุง ุชุชูƒูˆู† ูู‚ุท ุฃูˆ ุจุงู„ุฃุญุฑู‰ ู…ุฏุฎู„ุงุช ุงู„ุชุนู„ูŠู… ู„ูŠุณุช ูู‚ุท.!
andclassroom does not consist of only or rather inputs of education are not just.!
ู‚ุงุนุฉ ุชุฏุฑูŠุณุŒ ูˆ ูƒุฑุงุณูŠุŒ ูˆุทุงูˆู„ุงุชุŒ ูˆุขุฎุฑู‡ุง ุจู„ ุฅู† ุงู„ู…ุณุฃู„ุฉ ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ุฃุชุญุฏุซ ุนู† ุงู„ู…ุฏุฎู„ุงุช ุงู„ู…ุฏุฎู„ุงุช.!
classroom, chairs, tables, and others but the issue when i talk about the inputs .!
ู„ุง ุฃุนู†ูŠ ุจุฐู„ูƒ ูู‚ุท ุงู„ู…ุฏุฎู„ุงุช ุงู„ู…ุงุฏูŠุฉ ุจู„ ุฃู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ูƒู„ ุงู„ู†ุชุงุฆุฌ ุงู„ู…ุชุตู„ุฉ ุจุฐู„ูƒ ุจู…ุง ููŠู‡ู… ุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูŠู† ูˆุบูŠุฑู‡ู….!
i do not only mean the material inputs but there are also all the results related to that including teachers and others.!
ูˆุงู„ุณุคุงู„ ู‡ูˆ ู…ุง ู…ุง ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุฃุณุจุงุจ ุงู„ูƒุงู…ู†ุฉ ูˆุฑุงุก ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ู†ุชุงุฆุฌ ุงู„ู…ุชูุงูˆุชุฉ ูˆุงู„ู…ุฎุชู„ูุฉ ุจูŠู† ู…ูƒุงู† ูˆุขุฎุฑ ูˆุจูŠู† ุฏูˆู„ุฉ ูˆุฃุฎุฑู‰ ุŸ!
and the question is what are the reasons that lie behind those varying and different results between a place and other and between a country and other?!
ูˆุฃู†ุง ุฃู‚ูˆู„ ุจุฃู†ู‡ ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ู†ู†ุธุฑ ูุนู„ุงู‹ ููŠ ุงู„ุญุฏ ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุงุจุชุฏุงุกู‹ ุฃูˆ ุงู†ุทู„ุงู‚ุงู‹ ู…ู†ู‡ ูŠุฌุจ ูุนู„ุงู‹ ุฃู† ู†ุชุญุฏุซ ุนู† ู†ุชูŠุฌุฉ ู…ุญุฏุฏุฉ .!
and i say that we should actually look at the limit starting from which or based on which we should actually talk about a specific result.!
ูู‡ู†ุงูƒ ู…ุซู„ุงู‹ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ู†ู‚ูˆู„ ุฃู†ู‡ ุงู†ุทู„ุงู‚ุงู‹ ู…ู† ุงู„ู…ุณุชูˆู‰ ูƒุฐุง ูŠู…ูƒู† ุงู„ู‚ูˆู„ ุจุฃู† ู‡ุฐุง ุจุฃู† ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุชุฏุฑูŠุณ ู†ุงุฌุญูŒ ุฃู… ู„ุง .!
there is for example we can say that based on the level so it can be said that this teaching is successful or not.!
ูˆู„ูƒู† ู‚ุจู„ ุฐู„ูƒ ูŠุฌุจ ู‚ุจู„ ุฃู† ู†ู‚ูˆู… ู„ู†ู‚ูˆู„ ุจุฎูุถ ุนุฏุฏ ุงู„ุทู„ุงุจ ุฏุงุฎู„ ุงู„ุตู ุงู„ูˆุงุญุฏ.!
but before that we should stand to say the reduction of students' number in the same class.!
ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ู†ุชุจูŠู† ุจุดูƒู„ู ูˆุงุถุญู ู…ุง ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุฃู‡ุฏุงู ุงู„ู…ุชูˆุฎุงุฉ ู…ู† ุฐู„ูƒ ูˆุจุนุฏ ุฐู„ูƒ ู…ุง ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ู…ุญูุฒุงุช ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ู†ู…ู†ุญู‡ุง ู„ูƒู„ ู…ุนู„ู… .!
we should discern clearly what are the envisaged objectives from that and after that what are the stimuli that we can provide to every teacher.!
ู…ุง ู‡ูŠ ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ุงู„ุฃู…ูˆุฑ ุงู„ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ุงู„ู…ุงุฏูŠุฉ ูˆุบูŠุฑู‡ุง ุงู„ุชูŠ ู…ู† ุดุฃู†ู‡ุง ุฃู† ุชุฑูŠุญ ุงู„ู…ุนู„ู… ูˆุฃู† ุชุฌุนู„ู‡ ู…ุฑุชุงุญ ููŠ ููŠ ุนู…ู„ู‡.!
what are also the other material things and others that would comfort the teacher and make him comfortable in his work.!
ู‡ุฐุง ุฅู„ู‰ ู…ุง ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ูˆู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ุนู†ุตุฑูŒ ุนู†ุตุฑูŒ ู…ู‡ู…ูŒ ููŠ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุณุคุงู„.!
this and so on and there is also an element important in this question.!
ุนู†ุฏู…ุง ูŠุชุนู„ู‚ ุงู„ุฃู…ุฑ ุจุงู„ู†ู‡ูˆุถ ุจุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ุงุจุชูƒุงุฑุงุช ุฃูˆ ุชุญุฏูŠุฏ ู…ุณุชูˆูŠุงุช ู…ุนูŠู†ุฉ .!
when it comes to promoting those innovations or determining certain levels.!
ู„ู‚ุฏ ุฌุฑุช ุนู…ู„ูŠุฉ ุชู‚ูŠูŠู… ุนุดูˆุงุฆูŠุฉ ููŠ ุงู„ู‡ู†ุฏ ูˆูƒุงู† ุฐู„ูƒ ุจู‡ุฏู ุจู‡ุฏู ุฎูุถ ุนุฏุฏ ุงู„ุทู„ุงุจ ููŠ ูƒู„ ุตูู.!
a random evaluation process was conducted in India and that was for reducing the number of students in each class.!
ูˆุงุชุถุญ ู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ุฐู„ูƒ ุฃู†ู‡ ูŠู†ุจุบูŠ ู‚ุต ุฃูˆ ุจุงู„ุฃุญุฑู‰ ุชุฌุฒุฆุฉ ูƒู„ ุงู„ุตููˆู ูˆุฎูุถู‡ุง ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ู†ุตู ู‡ุฐุง ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุฉ ู…ุนูŠู†ุฉ.!
and it became clear through that that we should cut or rather divide all classes and reduce them to half this is for a certain group.!
ูˆู„ูƒู† ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ู„ู…ุฌู…ูˆุนุฉ ุงู„ุฃุฎุฑู‰ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุฎุถุนุช ุฃูŠุถุงู‹ ู„ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ู…ุณุญ ุงุชุถุญ ุจุฃู† ุงู„ุขุฑุงุก ู…ุฎุชู„ูุฉ.!
but for the other group that underwent this survey as well it became clear that opinions are different.!
ุจู„ ูˆูƒุงู† ุงู„ุฌูˆุงุจ ุฃู†ู‡ ูŠุฌุจ ุงู„ุงู‡ุชู…ุงู… ุจุงู„ู†ุชุงุฆุฌ ุนู„ู‰ ุงู„ุตุนูŠุฏ ุงู„ูุฑุฏูŠ ูˆุชู†ุธูŠู… ู‚ุงุนุงุช ุงู„ุชุฏุฑูŠุณ ุฃูˆ ุงู„ุตููˆู ุนู„ู‰ ุฃุณุงุณ ุฐู„ูƒ.!
but the answer was that results should be paid attention to at the individual level and classrooms or classes should be organized on the basis of that.!
ุฃูŠ ู…ู† ูŠู†ุฌุญูˆู† ููŠ ุงู„ุงุฎุชุจุงุฑุงุช ูˆู…ู† ูŠุฎูู‚ูˆู† ููŠู‡ุง ูˆููŠ ุงู„ู†ู‡ุงูŠุฉ ู…ุง ุชูˆุตู„ู†ุง ุฅู„ูŠู‡ .!
that is those who succeed in tests and those who fail in them and eventually what we reached.!
ู‡ูˆ ุฃู† ุฎูุถ ุนุฏุฏ ุงู„ุทู„ุงุจ ุฃูˆ ุฎูุถ ุญุฌู… ุงู„ุตู ู„ูŠุณ ุจุญุฏ ุฐุงุชู‡ ุฃูˆ ุจุงู„ุฃุญุฑู‰ ู„ุง ูŠุคุฏูŠ ุจุญุฏ ุฐุงุชู‡ ุฅู„ู‰ ู†ุชุงุฆุฌ ุญุณู†ุฉ.!
is that reducing the number of students or reducing the class size does not by itself or rather does not lead by itself to good results.!
ุจู„ ู…ุง ูŠุคุฏูŠ ุฅู„ู‰ ุชู„ูƒ ุงู„ู†ุชุงุฆุฌ ุงู„ุญุณู†ุฉ ู‡ูˆ ุฃู† ู†ู‡ุชู… ูˆู†ุฑูƒุฒ ุงู„ุงู‡ุชู…ุงู… ุนู„ู‰ ุถุฑูˆุฑุฉ ุชุตู…ูŠู… ุงู„ุชุฏุฑูŠุณ.!
but what leads to those good results is to pay attention and focus our attention on the necessity to design teaching.!
ุฃูˆ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ูŠุฉ ุงู„ุชุฏุฑูŠุณูŠุฉ ู…ุน ุงู„ุฃุฎุฐ ู…ุน ุงู„ุงุนุชุจุงุฑ ุงู„ุญุงุฌุงุช ุงู„ูุฑุฏูŠุฉ ุญุงุฌุงุช ูƒู„ ูุฑุฏ ูƒู„ ูƒู„ ุทุงู„ุจ.!
or the teaching process taking into account the individual needs the needs of every individual every student.!
ูˆุงู„ุงุณุชุฌุงุจุฉ ู„ู‡ุง ุจุงู„ุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุงู„ู…ุทู„ูˆุจุฉ. ุงู„ู…ู†ุดุท ุฃุฑูŠุฏ ุฃู† ุฃุนูˆุฏ ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุณุคุงู„ ุงู„ู…ุชุนู„ู‚ ุจุงู„ูุนุงู„ูŠุฉ.!
and response to them as required. the moderator i want to come back to my question concerning efficiency.!
ู„ู†ุฃุฎุฐ ุจุนุถ ุงู„ุฃุณุฆู„ุฉ ู‚ุจู„ ุฃู† ู†ุนูˆุฏ ุฅู„ู‰ ุฃุนุถุงุก ุงู„ุทุงูˆู„ุฉ ุงู„ู…ุณุชุฏูŠุฑุฉ.!
let's take some questions before we come back to the round table members.!
ูƒูˆุชุด ู‡ุงุฑูŠ ู…ู† ุงู„ู‡ู†ุฏ ู…ู† ู…ุนู‡ุฏ ุงู„ุฅุฏุงุฑุฉ.!
Coach Harry from India from Management Institute.!
ู…ู† ุจูŠู† ุงู„ุชุญุฏูŠุงุช ุงู„ูƒุจุฑู‰ ููŠู…ุง ูŠุณู…ู‰ ุจุงู„ุงุจุชูƒุงุฑ ุงู„ู…ุฏุฎุฑ ู‡ูˆ ุงู„ุชู‚ูŠูŠู… ุชู‚ู„ูŠู… ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ูŠุฉ ุจุทุจูŠุนุฉ ุงู„ุญุงู„.!
among the big challenges in so-called saving innovation is the evaluation of this process of course.!
ู†ุญู† ุจุญุงุฌุฉ ู„ุนู…ู„ูŠุฉ ุชู‚ุฏูŠู… ู…ุณุชู‚ู„ุฉ ูˆุฃู†ุง ู‚ุฏ ุฎุจุฑุช ุฐู„ูƒ ู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ุชุฌุฑุจุชูŠ ู†ู‚ูˆู… ุจุนู…ู„ูŠุฉ ุชู‚ูŠูŠู… ุฏุงุฎู„ูŠุฉ ูˆู„ูƒู† ู†ุญู† ุจุญุงุฌุฉ ู„ู„ุชู‚ูŠูŠู… ุงู„ุฎุงุฑุฌูŠ.!
we need an independent process of provision and i have known that through my experience we do an internal evaluation process but we need an external evaluation.!
ูˆูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ูŠู‚ูˆู… ุจุฐู„ูƒ ุฃู† ุชู‚ูˆู… ุจุฐู„ูƒ ุฌู‡ุฏ ุงู„ุฎุงุฑุฌูŠ ูˆูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ู†ุนุฑู ู…ุง ู‡ูŠ ูุนู„ุงู‹ ุงู„ูƒู„ูุฉ ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุญูŠุซ ุฃู† ู‡ู†ุงูƒ ูƒู„ูุฉ .!
and you should do that external effort and we should know what is actually the cost of that as there is a cost.!
ูˆู‡ุฐุง ู„ู† ูŠุนูˆุฏ ู„ู† ูŠุนุฏ ุจุงู„ุฅู…ูƒุงู† ุชุณู…ูŠุชู‡ ุจุงู„ุงุจุชูƒุงุฑ ุงู„ู…ุฏุฎุฑ ูู‡ุฐู‡ ู…ุดูƒู„ุฉ ุจุงู„ู†ุณุจุฉ ู„ู†ุง.!
and this can no longer be called the saving innovation so this is a problem for us.!
ุณุฃูˆุฌู‡ ู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุณุคุงู„ ุฅู„ู‰ ุฅู‚ุจุงู„ ูˆู„ูƒู† ูŠุฌุจ ุฃู† ู†ุณุชู…ุน ุฅู„ู‰ ุณุคุงู„ ุขุฎุฑ ุฃู†ุง ู…ู† ู…ุนู‡ุฏ ุงู„ุชุนู„ู… ุงู„ุฐุงุชูŠ.!
i will direct this question to Iqbal but we should listen to another question i am from Self-learning Institute.!
ู„ู†ู‚ูˆู„ ุจุฃู† ุฃู† ุงู„ู†ู…ุท ุงู„ู…ุนุฑูˆู ุงู„ูŠูˆู… ุฃูˆ ุจุงู„ุฃุญุฑู‰ ุฅุฐุง ู…ุง ุฃุฑุฏู†ุง ูุนู„ุงู‹ ุงู„ู†ู‡ูˆุถ ุจุงู„ุงุจุชูƒุงุฑ ุงู„ุงุฏุฎุงุฑูŠ .!
let's say that the pattern known today or rather if we really want to promote the saving innovation.!
ูˆู†ุจู‚ู‰ ู†ุจู‚ู‰ ู…ุน ุงู„ู†ู…ุท ุงู„ุชู‚ู„ูŠุฏูŠ ูˆุงู„ู…ุนุฑูˆู ู„ุตู ูˆู…ุนู„ู… ูˆุฅู„ู‰ ุขุฎุฑู‡ ูู„ุง ุฃุนุชู‚ุฏ ุจุฃู†ู†ุง ูุนู„ุงู‹ ุณู†ุฌุชุงุฒ ู‚ุณุทุงู‹ ูƒุจูŠุฑุงู‹ ู…ู† ุทุฑูŠู‚ ุงู„ุงุจุชูƒุงุฑ ุงู„ุงุฏุฎุงุฑูŠ.!
and we stay with the traditional and known pattern for a class or a teacher and so on so i do not think that we will actually pass a great part of the saving innovation way.!
ู„ุฐู„ูƒ ุฃุฑู‰ ุฃู†ู‡ ู…ู† ุงู„ุถุฑูˆุฑูŠ ูุนู„ุงู‹ ุชุญูˆูŠู„ ุงู„ุฃู†ุธุงุฑุงู„ูŠูˆู… ุนู† ุฐู„ูƒ ุงู„ู†ู…ุท ุงู„ุชู‚ู„ูŠุฏูŠ .!
so i see that it is actually necessary to distract attention today from this traditional pattern.!
ูˆู‡ู†ุงูƒ ูˆู‡ู†ุงูƒ ุจุฑุงู…ุฌ ู…ู‡ู…ุฉ ูˆู…ููŠุฏุฉ ุจู‡ุฐุง ุงู„ุตุฏุฏ ูŠุฌุฑูŠ ุชุทุจูŠู‚ู‡ุง ููŠ ู…ู†ุงุทู‚ ููŠ ุฃู…ุฑูŠูƒุง ุงู„ุฌู†ูˆุจูŠุฉ.!
andthere are important and useful programs in this aspect that are applied in areas in South America.!
ุญูŠุซ ุญูŠุซ ูŠู†ุชู‚ู„ ุงู„ู…ุนู„ู…ูˆู† ุฅู„ู‰ ุงู„ุฃู…ุงูƒู† ุงู„ุฑูŠููŠุฉ ู„ูƒูŠ ูŠุนู„ู…ูˆุง ุงู„ุฃุทูุงู„ ุงู„ู‚ุฑุงุกุฉ ูˆ ุงู„ุญุณุงุจ ููŠ ุฃู…ุงูƒู† ุงู„ุชูŠ ูŠุชูˆุงุฌุฏูˆู† ููŠู‡ุง.!
where teachers move to the rural areas to teach children reading and numeracy in the places where they are.!
ุฅุฐุงู‹ ุณุฃู„ุช ุงู„ุณูŠุฏุฉ ูˆุฑุงุกูƒู ุณุคุงู„ ูˆุฃุนุทุช ู„ู†ุง ู…ุซุงู„ ู‡ูŠ ู…ุฏุฑุณุฉ ุงู„ุฒุฑุงุนุฉ.!
so the lady behind you asked a question and gave us an example which is school of agriculture.!
ุญูŠุซ ุฃู† ุงู„ุชู„ุงู…ูŠุฐ ูŠุนู…ู„ูˆู† ููŠ ุงู„ู…ุฒุฑุนุฉ ูˆุงู„ุฃุฑุจุงุญ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุฌู†ู‰ ู‡ูŠ ุงู„ุชูŠ ุชุฏูุน ู„ู„ุฃุณุชุงุฐ.!
where students work in the farm and the profits gained are paid to the teacher.!
ุฅุฐุงู‹ ูˆู…ุซู„ ู‡ุฐู‡ ุงู„ุฃู…ุซู„ุฉ ุฌุฏ ูุนุงู„ุฉ ูˆู‡ูŠ ุฃูƒุซุฑ ูุงุนู„ูŠุฉ ู…ู† ุงู„ู†ู…ุงุฐุฌ ุงู„ุฃูƒุงุฏูŠู…ูŠุฉ ุฅุฐุงู‹ ููŠู…ุง ูŠุชุนู„ู‚ ุจุงู„ุชู‚ูŠูŠู… ุงู„ุฐูŠ ุชุญุฏุซ ุนู†ู‡ ูˆุงู„ู†ู…ุงุฐุฌ ูˆุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ุชู‚ูŠูŠู…ู‡ุง.!
so such examples are very effective and are more effective than academic models so with regard to evaluation that he talked about and models and method of evaluating them.!
ูุฅู† ู‡ุฐุง ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ูŠุทุจู‚ ุนู„ูŠู‡ุง ุฅู‚ุจุงู„ ูƒูŠู ูƒูŠู ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ู†ุจุชูƒุฑ ูˆู†ู‚ูŠู… ุจุทุฑูŠู‚ุฉ ู…ุฏุฎุฑุฉุŸ!
so this can be applied to her Iqbal how how can we innovate and evaluate in a saving manner.?!
ุฎุงุตุฉ ูˆุฃู† ุฃู† ุงู„ุชุนู„ู… ูŠุฃุชูŠ ู…ู† ุฎู„ุงู„ ุงู„ุชุฌุฑุจุฉ ูˆู„ุง ูŠู…ูƒู† ุฃู† ู†ุนุฑู ูˆู†ู‚ูŠู… ุฅุฐุงู‹ ู…ุฏู‰ ุงู„ุงุฏุฎุงุฑ ูˆุงู„ุงุจุชูƒุงุฑ ุฅู„ุง ุจุนุฏ ุงู†ุชู‡ุงุก ูƒู„ ุงู„ุนู…ู„ูŠุฉ.!
especially that education comes through experience and then we can only know and evaluate the extent of saving and innovation after the end of the whole process.!