Barbara and Fred were great hosts. The upstairs unit was less than two years old, sparkling clean, comfortable bed, good hot shower. We enjoyed chatting with the hosts (we all are well-traveled with experiences to share) and Fred even helped me wash/wax my car and I helped him with adding apps to his Iphone. Mandeville Canyon Road is the longest (~5 miles) paved dead end in LA -- and while you have to watch out for high-speed cyclists a bit, we walked uphill and back several miles a day. All in all a great stay.