Before I tell you why you should NOT rent from Joe, take a look at this text thread between us on the day my girlfriend and I moved in (nothing has been edited)….. >>>ME: “Hi Joe, just finished moving in. Love the space and location! Just a few things.... It took us over 2 hrs to get the place properly cleaned. *There was noodles on the kitchen counter and in the sink *dry food and drink residue on dishes *visible sticky residue in refrigerator/kitchen drawers *half eaten bag of chips with other opened food items *used toothbrushes in bathroom, mouth wash, etc also with stick residue coating the shelves *mold on shower curtains and antislip pad in tub *dirty floors We have been traveling for over a year throughout California and used Air bnb the entire time, this is the dirtiest place we have ever moved in. I realize you accommodated us moving in a few hrs early and appreciate that, but had I know the condition of the place I would have waited a few hrs. We don't expect places to be spotless when we move in, and realize some cleaning will need to be done. But this was very extensive. I would like to ask that I have my cleaning fee refunded if possible? I also wanted to ask if it was possible for you to remove a few items, extra towels, items in the ottoman. Any extra space we can utilize would be much appreciated. Sorry to come off as a pain, but I wanted to leave my honest feedback here instead of on air bnb. Also, is you place available through the end of April? We are looking for a long term rental. Thanks again. “ _________________________________________________________________ >>>THIS IS JOE’s Response: “Well the reason there's noodles there because I had to take my two-year-old to get all the stuff out of there before 3 p.m. for you guys. :-) Remember it is a home, not a spotless hotel room. That's why I called it a pad It is not a bougie type apartment. It is a BEACH pad... Type of place if you're a surfer or something drop off your surfboard right there if there's sand on the floor, no big deal. In my personal opinion, the place was clean.... I had a cleaning crew there last Wednesday and nobody else was in the apartment until today when I went there. Remember you're renting out a home. Not a 5-star hotel I'd be more than willing to have a cleaning crew come back on Monday or Tuesday if you like. This is Hermosa Beach, a town that's known for partying. Not Manhattan Beach right next door which is known for its Rich folks. Granted, I was trying to accommodate you guys by removing the stuff when all the stuff mentioned, like bikes and chairs that was already included in the air bnb ad. I got somebody else renting it out on the 1st of March Sorry,...