Forum: bicycles.stackexchange.com
Tags: <tire><commuter>
Title: Are 32mm tires ideal for a fast commuter bike?
Question: I am considering a faster bike to replace my XC for commuting. I am thinking hybrid/cross/road bike with wider tires. My question is whether 28mm tires are enough or if I should go with 32mm like Trek touts for their CrossRip. I won't be riding gravel roads or other heavier terrain too much, but I will need to jump to/from curbs from time to time.  Where I live I often need to ride over cobblestones and tram tracks, like this, so safety is very important:

Answers:
sents: text: I commute on two bicycles: — a road bike, with 25mm tire up front and a 28mm back.
text: — a custom commuter bike, with 32mm up front, 35mm back.
text: I'd recommend you go with the 32mm tires.
text: The 28mm tires I've used are good for commuting (I think the 25mm I have is too small — I have to give it too much attention when crossing curb lines and such).
text: That said, 32mm tires offer a lot more protection in urban environments.
text: I ride suburban roads (25mm is fine for those) into an urban environment, and then I go into a college campus.
text: It is on campus where the 25mm tires get dicey.
text: There are many different surfaces on campus, and each change creates an edge — It is those edges that will get you, either trip you up or cause a pinch flat.
text: A 28mm tire does OK, but a 32mm tire handles these conditions much better.
text: Some 32mm tires are heavy, some are lighter weight.
text: For what you hope to do — go fast — search around for lighter weight tires (Panaracer might be a good place to start).
text: Enjoy the fatties!
answer_details: author: bicycles.stackexchange.com/users/12867/TBR
score: 10
sents: text: Have had a Trek FX 7.2 for 6 years.
text: Came with 35's.
text: Replaced with 32's.
text: Work very well for pavement.
text: If you are doing any curb jumping or cobblestone, I would not suggest the 28's.
text: If you are looking at a Trek hybrid (love mine), consider a carbon fork model.
text: Mine is all metal and I feel the vibrations in my forearms.
text: That is the ONLY bad thing I have to say about the bike
text: and it is not enough to replace it at this point.
text: Tom
answer_details: author: bicycles.stackexchange.com/users/12866/user12866
score: 4
sents: text: Based on the title alone 32mm tires are not ideal for fast commuter bike.
text: But that picture is some harsh conditions and you state safety is important.
text: For that picture and the pictures you had on the fork question I would go 32mm or even 35mm.
text: A 35mm is not not going to be as fast
text: but it should be softer and have more grip.
text: And also which type of tire.
text: A hard tire maximized for durability and puncture resistance is not the way to go as it is harsh and heavy.
text: Look for a softer tire that will take a broader ranges of pressure.
text: Not a race tire but a lighter touring or city tire.
text: Unless you are over like 170 lbs then run it at less than maximum pressure.
text: Mattnz bring up a good point on total commute time.
text: A flat brings down the average and so does rain.
text: A larger tire is more resistant to pinch flats.
text: I happen to think a larger tire is less susceptible to puncture flats but
text: not everyone agrees so let's leave that out.
text: That route does not look it has a lot of thorns or glass
text: so don't go with THE most puncture resistant like a Marathon Plus HS as a 622x32 weighs 810 grams and has poor rolling resistance.
text: You can get tire with some puncture protection and good rolling resistance at 500 grams.
text: An under inflated tire has poor rolling resistance - check pressure regularly regardless of size.
text: Keep you bike maintained in general -
text: a broken chain kills an average.
text: In dry conditions and low traffic a 28mm is going to be fastest.
text: A 32mm is going to be more durable and nearly as fast.
text: On the ruff stuff a 32mm probably faster.
text: A 35mm is going to be slower on the smooth stuff
text: but I think faster on those bricks.
text: Now mix in some rain.
text: Those bricks looks slick in rain.
text: That is where I go 35mm and bring the pressure down a bit.
text: You also have an indirect factor on safely with a smaller tire in if your head is down to pick a line you are not looking up at the bigger picture.
text: The other part is how long a commute.
text: If it is short and you can hump it out is different then long enough that you need to conserve energy.
text: And something else to consider is putting some 35mm touring tires on your XC.
text: Don't pick the bike just for the tires.
text: You can changes the tires.
text: Pick a bike that will take up to 35mm.
text: Since you already have a mtn bike with flat bars then consider more of a cross style with drop bars for a more of a range of bicycles.
answer_details: author: bicycles.stackexchange.com/users/7785/paparazzo
score: 4
sents: text: I commute with SS and 25c in front and 23c on the back.
text: I live in Zagreb
text: so there is really a lot of variations of terrain, but I like to be fast
text: so I don't mind.
text: I had more problems with wider tires than with thinner tires.
text: So, IMHO thin tires are just fine and I enjoy them, but I also think that you yourself need to try different setups and see what suits you best.
answer_details: author: bicycles.stackexchange.com/users/12863/Woland
score: 1
sents: text: I was just in the same boat that is how I came across this forum.
text: I was happy to switch out my front tire to a Randonneur ii.
text: My Giant Escape came with 32mm tires.
text: I now have 28mm on the front
text: and I would highly recommend it.
text: The tires feel lighter and more responsive.
text: Along with that comes the feeling of increased speed.
text: I have not timed myself yet to see if I am actually increasing in speed or if it just feels that way.
text: Either way, I'd highly recommend.
text: Like others have said, the 32's are going to give you a little more comfort
text: so I'm planning on keeping those in the back.
text: I did not notice much vibration difference in the front though.
text: I'm sure you'd be safe to have both tires on a hybrid/commuter at 28.
answer_details: author: bicycles.stackexchange.com/users/32263/Mindcontrol
score: 1

Summary of the answers:
Most people recommend at least a size 32 mm tire for urban environments and most consider 28 mm too small. Some even suggest going bigger than 32 mm as a larger tire is more resistant to pinch flats. If speed is what you are looking for, search around for lighter tires like Panaracer.
28mm is good for commuting, but 32 would be better for curb jumping and cobblestones, as well as avoiding pinch flats. Choose a bike that can take wider tyres if necessary, but don't choose just based on that criterion. Try to find lighter tyres with some puncture protection and a broad range of pressure to allow speed and puncture resistance.