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Tags: <harry-potter><magical-theory><spells>
Title: Why does the aguamenti spell work?
Question: Gamp's Five Laws of Elemental Transfiguration specifically state that nourishment cannot be conjured from thin air. Then how can the  aguamenti  spell work?  Does it just take water from somewhere else, or is this a chink in Rowling's armor?

Answers:
sents: text: 2 options here: Food (and not "nourishment" as you phrased it) does not include water.
text: Hermione says: Food is the first of the five Principal Exceptions to Gamp’s Law of Elemental Transfigura—".
text: In common English, water is usually NOT referred to as "food".
text: Since water - unlike non-water food - is super-plentiful and super-fungible, clearly it's easy for it to just be transported from somewhere, anywhere else, even if we don't assume that "food" excludes water.
answer_details: author: scifi.stackexchange.com/users/976/DVK-on-Ahch-To
score: 16
sents: text: It actually specified that "Food" cannot be created out of thin air, it doesn't specify water.
text: Additionally, the "air" itself contains quite a bit of water.
text: Put a cold glass down during hot weather and you can "Aguamenti" some water for yourself.
text: As far as what it actually does; it conjures up water from the tip of the wand in varying amounts (seemingly depending on the user's intentions and concentration).
answer_details: author: scifi.stackexchange.com/users/4383/NominSim
score: 11
sents: text: These answers have pegged it pretty much, but this is something to add that may apply - at least, I've found no evidence that it cannot apply: You can't drink it.
text: The water produced by the Aguamenti charm may not actually be drinkable.
text: Never, as far as I can see, does somebody drink water made by that spell; and in addition, in Half Blood Prince, Harry cannot get the conjured water to Dumbledore's lips - likely this is Voldemort's doing to force people to go for the lake water, but then, it might be because Aguamenti water vanishes if it is to be drank.
text: A long shot, but a possibility.
text: edit: As @ibid pointed out, Wonderbook disagrees.
text: For some reason JK's canon is higher than mine (I don't get it either)
text: but there we are.
text: Augmenti is fully drinkable!
text: That doesn't technically mean Voldemort didn't put a spell on the cave to make summoned water undrinkable (seems weird to me anyway that it is drinkable considering food, and I would assume drink, cannot be produced magically, but that's another question entirely 《and one I could probably answer if I wasn't taking the opposite point of view here!
text: 》)
text: but that's clutching at straws here and isn't really even hinted at in canon so ... Yah, nevermind!
text: It's drinkable.
answer_details: author: scifi.stackexchange.com/users/16565/Mac Cooper
score: 4
sents: text: I think Aguamenti merely conjures a stream water , the same way
text: "Avis" conjures a flock of birds.
text: Now that water bay be real water summoned from a stream, or "magical water" that will eventually disapear just like leprechaun gold.
text: But as the name of the spell suggests, and if Luna Lovegood is to be believed , it results from the action of a water counterpart to helioapths the "spirits of fire".
answer_details: author: scifi.stackexchange.com/users/24308/user24308
score: 2
sents: text: I don't think aguamenti is such a powerful spell.
text: Even muggles can produce water from air, by cooling it down.
text: It's not really creating anything, it's just extracting it.
text: I'll tell you how I interpret this rule about nourishment
text: : I think it's a ban on making anything from air which it didn't already contain.
text: For example, a plate of sandwiches may be summoned from the kitchen, but so must a bunch of flowers, for they are nourishment of a form.
text: Or - let's say - a chair.
text: I know many wood-worms who are quite insistent on this point.
text: Such magic would be in the arena of potions and transfiguration, respectively.
text: (Although... if it's not banned to mention such hereticism in this page; Eliezer Yudkowsky in "Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality" deals very thoroughly with laws relating to, and dangers of turning inanimate objects into food.)
answer_details: author: scifi.stackexchange.com/users/67647/tsuchan
score: 2
sents: text: There is this thing called water vapour in the air.
text: There is also hydrogen and oxygen in the air.
text: Maybe the aquamenti charm just condenses water vapour, or it somehow combines the hydrogen and oxygen to form water (sorry, not at the level in chem where I know how this happens)
answer_details: author: scifi.stackexchange.com/users/19387/user19387
score: 1
sents: text: In my estimation, if the water is summoned from some other place, it would summon only the H2O molecules, not any substances dissolved in the water.
text: This would have the same net effect as distilling the water.
text: It would be completely pure on a molecular level.
text: It's not advisable to drink more than a small amount of distilled water by itself as it can upset the balance of electrolytes in the body.
text: It can still be used for cooking, of course, but beverage water should contain some degree of dissolved minerals as all natural sources of water do.
text: This could be why wizards don't typically drink the water produced by the spell.
text: Distilled (pure) water also has a taste that many people find unpleasant, due to the complete lack of dissolved substances.
text: At least, that's how I will approach the subject in any fanfics I write that discuss aguamenti.
answer_details: author: scifi.stackexchange.com/users/21368/pleurocoelus
score: 1
sents: text: As far as I remember, Gamp's Five Laws of Elemental Transfiguration state food, money and life cannot be created from thin air.
text: I suspect love is one of the other things (though this one is not a tangible, material thing) and I don't know the fifth one.
answer_details: author: scifi.stackexchange.com/users/14382/Francisco
score: 0

Summary of the answers:
It conjures up water from the tip of the wand in varying amounts (seemingly depending on the user's intentions and concentration).
It conjures up water from the tip of the wand.