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Tags: <catan><recommendations><monopoly>
Title: Is there any economical game which demonstrates social-democratic economy rather than capitalism?
Question: As much as I enjoy games like Monopoly or Settelers of Catan, I'm very concerned about the way these games affect players' concept of economy, as they demonstrate extremly capitalistic economical rules where the goal of each individual is to financially crush his/her friends.  I know that since competition is an important factor in many games, the use of capitalism is natural, but I'd anyway like to find out about any economical board games that demonstrate a different approach.

Answers:
sents: text: Puerto Rico is an economic game but it's hardly purely capitalistic.
text: While you can trade goods for money, you get at least half if not more of your victory points by shipping goods, and each type of good is worth one victory point regardless of value.
text: However, I'm not sure what you mean when you say Catan is capitalist.
text: It's a pre-capitalist barter economy with no money.
text: You use raw materials to build settlements and roads, and there is no mention of leveraging worker's labor to maximize your personal wealth.
text: Perhaps you are conflating capitlism with societal /economic competition, which is not remotely the same thing.
answer_details: author: boardgames.stackexchange.com/users/3552/Tom Crowe
score: 9
sents: text: You may want to look at Indonesia.
text: It's still outwardly capitalistic, but the concept of cooperation, mergers, and acquisitions gives you an alternative route to achieving your objectives.
text: It's a shipping game, and you can play as a production company, a shipping company, or a combination of both.
text: Production companies must to rely on shipping companies to deliver their goods to cities, and must pay fees for using their network.
text: This means you might have to rely on other players depending on your strategy, and other players will have to depend on you for their shipping companies to work.
text: This setup makes for a very dynamic distribution of wealth within the game.
text: Mergers and acquisitions happen when companies start to combine on the board based on the division of land or shipping routes.
text: This allows you to create bigger and more efficient shipping lines.
text: There's a nice rundown of the game on YouTube .
answer_details: author: boardgames.stackexchange.com/users/824/Mohamad
score: 7
sents: text: Since games usually need a winner, crushing your opponent is often just part of the process.
text: This is why I sometimes like to play cooperative games.
text: My favorite is currently Pandemic , but it is not an economic game like Monopoly/Catan (Pandemic's economic component consists mostly of making efficient use of limited actions and limited turns ).
answer_details: author: boardgames.stackexchange.com/users/3551/monex0
score: 7
sents: text: Like most other decisions in Chicken caesar , the tax rate is determined in a democratic way.
answer_details: author: boardgames.stackexchange.com/users/1885/The Chaz 2.0
score: 2
sents: text: There is the " Anti-Monopoly " which gets the game origins of the Monopoly, i.e. the Landlord's game.
answer_details: author: boardgames.stackexchange.com/users/3635/air-dex
score: 2
sents: text: The fact that the economic part is important but not predominant make 7 Wonder kind a more Social-democratic game than capitalism, since money is not the main objective of the game.
text: Plus, giving the choice you tend to buy resources from a poorer civilization.
text: Another game, which doesn't have economic dynamic at all, but do have a gameplay dynamic involving democratic resolution which tend to lean forward social-democratic behaviour is Mafia, surprising as it is considering the name.
text: At the start of the game, the townpeoples do have their own destiny in hand, it's their choices, base on a ballot, that will eventually dictate the outcome of the game.
answer_details: author: boardgames.stackexchange.com/users/4837/LittleViking26
score: 0

Summary of the answers:
Try Pandemic that makes efficient use of limited actions. In Chicken Caeser, the tax rate is determined in a democratic way. You can also find "Anti-Monopoly".
Puerto Rico is an economic game but it's not purely capitalistic. In Chicken caesar, lke most other decisions , the tax rate is determined in a democratic way. There is of course the Anti-Monopoly game. In 7 Wonder, the fact that the economic part is important but not predominant make it a more Social-democratic game than capitalism, since money is not the main objective of the game. Another game, which doesn't have economic dynamic at all, but does involve a democratic resolution leaning towards social-democratic behaviour is Mafia.