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Tags: <technique><tool-selection><nailing><fasteners>
Title: Easy options to mount a 2x6 to concrete
Question: I am adding shelves to my basement and I need to mount 2x6 to basement concrete.  I asked one of Home Depot folks and he suggested to use Tapcon as the most optimal option. He explained that a concrete nailer could be much more expensive.   I expect Tapcon screws are my lowest cost option. I wanted to post my question here and learn about my options.   Are there any other easier and cost effective options for mounting a 2x6 to concrete?

Answers:
sents: text: Are there any other easier and cost effective options for mounting a 2x6 to concrete?
text: Tapcon screws will be your easiest and cheapest means to mount a 2x6 to a concrete floor, by far.
text: They will require a hammer drill to drill the holes in the concrete, but you can rent one from the store if you don't have one.
text: You could also use concrete expansion anchors too.
text: However, these are quite a bit more expensive than Tapcons.
text: They do have a lot more holding power, though.
text: They have an expansive sleeve that's threaded with a bolt you tighten, which causes the sleeve to bear on the concrete hole in friction.
text: These are used quite often in industrial applications where heavy loads are present.
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answer_details: author: woodworking.stackexchange.com/users/878/grfrazee
score: 4
sents: text: I'm not sure if this is cheaper in the long term but consider using adhesive, it's certainly the easiest option since you just apply, press the board into position and wait for the glue to cure.
text: Construction adhesive and epoxy are both viable here, as long as the concrete surface is in good condition, not friable and dust-free.
text: With epoxy in particular you do want to be quite sure of the position of your 2x6 since moving it would be somewhat difficult :-)
answer_details: author: woodworking.stackexchange.com/users/243/Graphus
score: 3
sents: text: If you have a hammer drill, then use tapcon.
text: If you don't, then you're going to have to buy or rent tools anyway, and the decision isn't clear.
text: Cost is largely a wash if you don't already have the appropriate tools for one or the other.
text: Time is different, though.
text: Drilling holes and then screwing in screws is much more time consuming than simply shooting a nail.
text: The biggest advantage for screws, though, is that they can generally be removed if needed later.
text: Nails can be too, but they may chip or spall the concrete, or you may have to cut them off and grind them down flush with the concrete later if you decide to remove the item they are attaching.
text: With screws you can use a regular drill and a concrete bit, but the bit wears down quickly and the drill proceeds slowly.
text: If you have very few fasteners, though, this can be the most cost effective option.
text: If you have many fasteners you'll want to rent a hammer drill, which works with the concrete drill bit to drill significantly more quickly and easily.
text: Chances are good that a cheap drill will have difficulty driving the concrete screw in, though.
text: Again, a strong drill or a hammer drill improves the experience here, but isn't necessary.
text: If you use the hex-head screws you can use a socket set to drive them in, and again is a cheaper option to buying a new drill if you aren't doing very many of them.
text: With nails the work goes very quickly.
text: The powder actuated nailer isn't terribly expensive to buy or rent (cheaper than the hammer drill) but the consumables (powder and nails) are more expensive than the screws per fastener.
text: However, you can't beat the speed you can attach something with.
text: If you're doing many fasteners and don't have a hammer drill, being able to nail in the boards quickly allows you to move forward in your project.
text: Nails can cause problems, particularly in substandard concrete.
text: If the concrete is soft, or has evidence of spalling or a lot of cracking, you should probably shy away from nails.
text: You also have to make some decisions in the blind - without knowing how hard the concrete is you have to try a few different size powder charges to find the one that drives the nail to the correct depth.
text: And, again, if you believe there's a good chance someone will want to undo what you've done, screws can be slightly more forgiving in terms of removing them from the concrete and using that area in other ways.
text: Nails are hardly a deal breaker, but they can complicate removal later.
answer_details: author: woodworking.stackexchange.com/users/235/Adam Davis
score: 3
sents: text: If you want the wood to be mounted permanently you can use a ramset and wood fastening bolts.
text: Pretty cheap and extremely fast.
text: Its like shooting a gun, bam! bam! bam!
text: You're done.
text: If you value your money much more than your time, I would use ordinary masonry anchors because that will be the cheapest option.
answer_details: author: woodworking.stackexchange.com/users/306/Treow Wyrhta
score: 1
sents: text: They have drill bits you can use in a regular drill for concrete.
text: Not expensive at all.
text: Then buy some cut nails and tie wire.
text: The bit should be slightly smaller than the cut nail.
text: Drill the hole through the board into the concrete and then cut yourself a piece of wire.
text: Stick the wire in the hole
text: so you have extra coming out like a couple inches.
text: Then drive the cut nail and it won't come out.
text: Good Luck!
answer_details: author: woodworking.stackexchange.com/users/1106/John S
score: 1

Summary of the answers:
S1: Tapcon screws will be your easiest and cheapest means to mount a 2x6 to a concrete floor, by far. If you want the wood to be mounted permanently you can use a ramset and wood fastening bolts.  You could also use concrete expansion anchors too. I'm not sure if this is cheaper in the long term but consider using adhesive, it's certainly the easiest option since you just apply, press the board into position and wait for the glue to cure.  
Tapcon screws and a hammer drill would be the cheapest option. Other options include cut nails and tie wire; concrete expansion anchors; a ramset and wood-fastening bolts; and even adhesive.