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Mary B. Johnson, to be postmnster at Clarksville, in the county of 

Montgomery and State of Tennessee, in place of William F. Green, 

suspended under the provisions of the seventeen hundred and sixtyeighth section of the Revised Statutes of the United States. 

Julien :u. Byrnes, to be postmaster at Bl'eoham, in the county of 

Washington and State of Texas, in the place of James E. Shepard, re- signed.· 

Robertson I. Coons, to be postmaster at Albany, in the county·of 

Shackelford and State of Texas, in place of Samuel F. Stinson, sus- pended under the provisions of the seventeen hundred and sixty-eighth 

section of the Revised Statutes of the United States. 

Benjamin Kowalski, to be postmast;er at Brownsville, in the county 

of Cameron and State of Texas, in the place of Joseph Hopk'ins, deceased. 

N. W. Noell, to be postmaster at Cisco, in the county of Eastland 

and State of Texas, in place of David Redfield, suspended under the 

provisions of the seventeen hundred and sixty-eighth section of ·the 

Revised Statutes of the United States. 

Dudley C. Brown, to be postmaster at Brandon, in the county of 

Rutland and State of Vermont, in place of John L. Knight, suspended 

under the provisions of the seventeen hundred and sixty-eighth section of the Revised Statutes of the United States. ' 

.A.sa M. Dickey, to be postmaster at Bradford, in the county of 

Orange and State of Vermont, in the place of George E. Gaffield, re- signed. 

Warren L. Howard, to be postmaster at Fair Haven, in the county of 

Rutland and StateofVermont, in place of Harris Whipple, suspended 

under the provisions of the seventeen hundred and sixty-eighth section 

of the Revised Statutes of the United States, and whose commission 

will expire on the 19th day of February, 1887. 

Moses B. Thrasher, to be postmaBter at Newport, in the county of 

Orleans and State of Vermont, in the place ofHenry S. Lawrence, whose 

. commission e~ired August 7, 1886. 

Oscar D. Den·, to be postmaBter at Roanoke, in the county of Roanoke and State of V4'ginia, in place of Alexander S. Asberry, suspended 

undertheprovisions of the seventeen hundred and sixty-eighth section 

ofthe Revised Statutes of the United States. 

Michael Gierman, to be postmaster at Norfolk, in the county of Norfolk and State of Virginia, in place of JamesW. Long, suspended under 

the provisions of the seventeen hundred and sixty-eighth section of the 

Revised Statutes of the United States. 

George G. McNamara, to be postmaster at Port Townsend.,. in the 

county of Jefferson and Territory of Washington, in place ofW. H. H. 

Learned, suspended under the provisions of the seventeen hundred and 

sixty-eighth section of the Revised Statutes of the United States. 

James W. Verlander, to be postmaBter at Huntington, in the county 

of Cabell and State of West Virginia, in place of Ira R. Wood, suspended 

under the provisions of the seventeen hundred and sixty-eighth section 

of the Revised Statutes of the United States. 

John A~ Bardon, to be postmaster at Superior, in the county ofDon.glas and State of Wisconsin, in place of Sidney E. Tubbs, suspended 

under the provisions of the seventeen hundred and sixty-eighth section 

of the Revised Statutes of the United States. 

Patrick H. Carney, to be postmaster at Waukesha, in the county of 

Waukesha and State of Wisconsin, in place of Elihu EnosJ suspended 

under the provisions of the seventeen hundred and sixty-eighth section 

of the Revised Statutes of the United States. 

Jacob J. French, to be postmaster at Sparta, in the county of Monroe 

and State of Wisconsin, in place of Lewis S. FisherJ suspended under 

the provisions of the seventeen hundred and sixty-eighth section of the 

Revised Statutes of the United States, and whose commission will ex- pire on the 7th day of February, 1887. . Roderick McGregor, to be postmaster at River Falls; in tho county 

of Pierce and State of Wisconsin, in place of George E. Reed, suspended 

under the provisions of the seventeen hundred and sixty-eighth section 

of the Revised Statutes, and whose commission will expire on the 4th 

day of January, 1887. 

James E. Jones, to be postmaster at Portage, in the county of Columbia and State of Wisconsin, in place of Charles C. Dow, suspended 

under the provisions of the seventeen hundred and sixty-eighth section 

of the Revised Statutes of the United States. .T eremiah Sn.llivan, to be postmaster at Ashland, in the county of 

Ashland and State of Wisconsin, in the place of Ernest H. Wilson, re- signed. 

Carl Zillier, to be postmaster. at Sheboygan, in the county of Sheboygan and State of Wisconsin, in place of Nathan Cole, suspended under 

the provisions of the seventeen hundred and sixty-eighth section of the 

Revised Statutes of the United States, and whose commission expired on the 12th day of December, 1886. 

TERRITORIAL OFFICERS. 

Preston H. Leslie, of Glasgow, Kentucky, to be governor of Montana 

Territory, vice Samuel T. Hauser, resigned . . 

Henry E. Haydon, of Still water, Minnesota, to be clerk of the district court for the district of Alaska, vice Andrew T. Lewis, to be re- moved. · 

HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. 

WEDNESDAY, Deoembcr 15, 1886. 

The House met at 12 o'clock m. Prayer by the Chaplain, Rev. W. 

H. MILBURN, D. D. 

The Journal of the proceedings of yesterday was read and approved. 

SPRINGFIELD .ARMORY. 

The SPEAKER laid before the House a letter from the Secretary of 

War, transmitting a statement of expenditures at the Springfield 

Armory, and of arms fabricated, altered, and repaired at that armory 

during the fiscal year ended June 30, 1886; which wu.s referred to the 

Committee on Expenditures in the War Department, and ordered to 

be printed. 

PURCHASES FOR USE OF ARMY. 

The SPEAKER also laid before the House a letter from the Secretary of War, transmitting reports received by the Quartermaster-General of purchases for the use of the Army for the fiscal year ended J nne 30, 1886; which was referred to the Committee on Expenditures in the 

War Department, .and ordered to be printed. 

COUNT OF ELECTORAL .VOTE. 

The SPEAKER also laid before the House the following messnge 

from the Senate, accompanying the bill (S. 9) to fix the day for the 

meeting of the electors of President and Vice-President, and to provide 

for and regulate the co.unting of the votes for President and Vice-President, and the decision of questions arising thereon: 

IN THE SENATE, Dccnnber 14,1886. . 

Resolved, That the Senate disagree to the amendments of the }louse of Representatives to the bill of the Senate, No.9, and ask a. conference with the House on the disagreeing votes of the two Houses thereon. 

Ordered, That Mr. HoAR, Mr. EDMUNDS, and Mr. PUGH be the conferees on the part of the Senate . 

The SPEAKER. If there be no objection, the request of the Senate 

for a conference upon the disagreeing votes of the two Houses on this 

bill will be agreed to. The Chair hears no objection. During the day 

the Chair will announce the appointment of conferees on the part of 

the Honse. 

The Speaker subsequently announced the appointment of Mr. CALDWELL, Mr. EDEN, and Mr. COOPERJ as the House conferees. 

A~""UES, ETC. 1 IN WASHINGTON, D. C. 

The SPEAKER also laid before the Honse the bill (S. 2938) regulating the use of avenues, streets, alleys, and reservations, in the city 

of Washington; which was read a first and second time, referred to the 

Committee on the District of Columbia, and ordered to be printed. 

LEAVE OF ABSENCE. 

By unanimous consent, leave of absence was granted as follows: 

To Mr. IKE H. TAYLOR, for two days, on account of sickness. 

To Mr. MITCHELL, for one week, on account of sick-ness in his 

family. 

WITHDRAW .AL OF P A.PERS. 

Mr. SMALL, by unanimous consent, obtained leave k withdraw 

from the files of the Honse papers filed by him with the bill (H. R. 

3667) for the relief of Walter D. Plowden, no action having been had on the bill. · 

Mr. BOUTELLE, by unanimous consent, obtained leave to withdraw 

from the files of the House papers in the case of Ella I. Small, filed 

with the bill (H. R. 1021). 

AMENDMENT, NATIOYAL BA~'X ACT. 

Mr. WARNER, of Missouri. ~1r. Speaker, I a.skunanimousconsenl 

to take from the House CalendaT for immediate consideration the bill 

(H. R. 9110) to amend sections 5191 and 5192 of_ the Revised Statutes 

of the United States, and put it upon its passage. 

The SPEAKER. The bill will be read, subject to objection. 

The bill was read, as follows: 

Be it enacted) &c., That section 5191 of the Revised Statutes be amended by 

adding to the list of cities named therein the following. namely: Nashville, 

Charle ton, Atlanta, Richmond, Galveston, Saint Paul, Indi&napolis, Kansas City, and Omaha.. SEc. 2. That section 5t9"2 of the Revised Statutes be amended by adding to the list of cities therein named the following, namely: Nashville, Atlanta., Galveston, Saint Paul, Indianapolis, Kansas City, and Omaha . 

Mr. BURROWS. It is difficult to unden."'tand exactly what this bill covers unless these sections of the Revised Statutes to which reference 

is mane are read. 

Mr. WARNER, ofl\Iissouri Ifthegentleman willpa.rdonme, !think 

I c..'ln make a brief explanation which will show the proprie~ of the 

passage of this act. 

Mr. BURROWS. That will be satisfactory to me. Mr. W .A.RNER, of Missouri. Section 5191 of the act creating the 

national banks provides that national banks located in sixteen cities 

therein named shall keep on hand, of the moneys of the Uil.ited States, 

a sum equal to 25 per cent. of the aggregate a1f1ount of the circulation 

of the bank and of its deposits. All other national banks are req nired 

to keep on hand only 15 per cent. of the aggregate amount of the circulation and· deposits. Section 5192 provides that the national banks, . 
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located in these cities which are required to keep only 15 per. cent. of 

the aggregate amount on hand, may deposit three-fi.fthsofthat reserve fund with national ba}lks located in the reserve cities. This, therefore, 

simply gives to Kansas City, and those others named in the bill, the same privileges that are now given to Chicago, Saint Louis, New York, 

Philadelphia, and the other cities embraced in the original act. It en- ables the national banks doing business in Kansas City, for instance, 

to keep the reserve fund there, instead of sending it elsewhere. It 

costs the Government nothing. 

The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the present consideration of 

the bill? 

There was no objection. 

Mr. WARNER, of Missouri. I am requested by the committee re- . porting the bill, or with their consent, to move to strike out the words 

"Nashville, Charleston, and Richmond," in lines 5 and 6 of section 1. 

Richmond and Charleston, I will say, are already provided for, and do 

not wish to assume the additional burdens. I aJ.so further move to insert after the words "Saint Paul," in line 6; the word "Minneapolis." 

The amendment was agreed to. 

J,Ir. WARNER, of .Missouri. Also in section 2, I move to amend by 

striking from line 3 the word "Nashville," and inserting after the 

words ''Saint Paul" the word "Minneapolis," which makes it con· form to the first section. . The amendment was agreed to. 

The bill as amended was ordered to be engrossed for a third 1·eading; and being engrossed, it was accordingly read the third time, and 

passed. 

Mr. WARNER, of Missouri, moved to reconsider the vote by which 

the bill was passed; and also moved that the motion to reconsider be 

laid on the table. 

The latter motion was agreed to. 

JOHN HOW. 

Jrir. CLARDY. Jrlr. Speaker, I a.Sk nnanimous consent to discharge 

the Committee of the Whole House on the Private Calendar from the 

further consideration of the b.ill (H. R. 7648) for the relief of the estate 

of the late John How, Indian agent, and his sureties, and put it upon 

its passage. 

The bill is as follows: 

Be it enacted, &c., Tha.t Samuel T. Glover,JamesO. Broadliead,andGerardB. 

Allen, sureties of the late John How, formerly Indian agent at the Western 

Shoshone Agency, Nevada, on the official bond of said John How, be, and they are hereby, released from any and all liabilities of every kind and nature on or growing out of said bond; that no action shall be brought, maintained, prosecuted, or enforced against said sureties, or either of them, their executors, ad· 

ministrators, or heirs, in any court. 

The SPEAKER. Is there any objection to the present consideration 

of the bill? 

Mr. EDEN. I would like to have the report read for information, 

reserving the right to object. · Mr. CLARDY. The report, permit me to say, is quite a long one, 

and ·if the gentleman from Illinois will withdraw his demand for the 

reading of it, I think I Ca.n make a statement of the facts which will 

embody the facts in a few words. 

Mr. EDEN. Very well. 

Mr. CLARDY. In 1878 John How, an old and respected citizen of 

Saint Louis, was appointed agent for the Western Shoshone Indian · agency in Nevada; and upon his acceptance of the office entered into a bond in the penal sum of $10,000 for the faithful performance of the 

duties, with Hon. JamesO. Broadhead, thelateSamuel T. Glover, and 

1\Ir. Girard B. Allen, all of that city, .as his sureties. Near the close or at the expiration of his term of office in 1882, upon charges of irregularity in his official accounts being preferred, an inspector, by the direction of the Commissioner of Indian .Affairs, took charge of the agency 

and made an examination of the accounts. The report submitted by 

the inspector showed that there had been a violation of the terms of 

the bond; and upon the face of the report, paying no attention to the 

appendix, it·seemed that the Government had been involved in a loss 

of some $2,000. But while it appeared that there had been a violation 

of the bond, an examination of the report further discloses the fact 

that this violation was a technical one merely, and, in the language 

of the committee submitting this report, "resulted in no loss to the 

Government.'' 

The first item is for $162, receipted by marks, and the marks not 

witnessed. The committee say in their report, after a full examination of this question, (and I may say too that the opinion of the for- mer Commissioner of Indian Affairs corroborates the finding of the present committee of the Honse), that there has been no loss to the Government, but merely a failure to comply with technical provisions or 

orders issued by the Department of the Interior. 1 do not think that there ought to be any objection to the passage of 

the bill. My friend from Illinois, [Mr. SPRINGER], who is fully acquainted with the facts of the case, will also make a statement to the 

House. 

Mr. SPRINGER. I have carefulJy examined the bill, and I am satisfied the Government has sustained no loss by reason of tlte transactions of this Indian agent, Mr. How. I want to say with regard to 

that gentleman that he bore during his life a character as high as that 

of any gentleman in the State of Missouri. He was a man of the ~ery 

highest character, and nobody that ever knew John How everbelieved · for a moment that he was capable or could by any indirection be capable 

of defrauding the Government. He is now dead, and this bill is to 

do justice to his memory, and also to his indorsers. I nsk that it ·be 

passed unanimously. 

The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the present consideration of . the bill? 

There being no objection, the bill was ordered to be engrossed and 

read a third time; and being engrossed, it was accordingly read the 

third time, and passed. · 11Ir. CLARDY moved to reconsider the vote by which the bill was passed; and also moved that the motion to reconsider be laid on the 

table. 

The latter motion was agreed to. 

HENRY 1\I.ARTIN. 

Mr. DORSEY. I ask uru\nirrious consent that the House at this 

time consider the bill (H. R.-14{8) for the relief of Henry Martin, with · amendments by the Senate; and I shall ask the House to concur in the 

Senate amendments. 1 

The amendments of the Senate were read. 

Mr. HOLMAN. · I ask that the bill be ·read as it now stands, with 

the Senate amendments. - The Clerk read the bill as proposed to be amended a5 follows: . 

Be it enaeted, &c.; That Henry Martin, of Seward County, Nebraska, or his 

legal representatives, may select, within one year from the pas.<Jage of this act, 

and shall be allowed, a patent for a. tract Of so-acres of the unoccupied and un- appropriated public lands of the United States in the St.ate of Nebraska, subject to entry, not mineral in character, and in tracts not less than the subdivisions 

provided for in the United States land-laws; and if unsurveyed when taken, to conform when surveyed to the general system of the United States land-surveys; and the Commissioner of the General Land Office, under the direction of 

the Secretary of the Interior, shall be authorized to issue scrip, in legal subdivisions, to the said Martin, or his legal representatives, in accordance with the provisions of this act, which scrip shall be received in payment for S.'\id land. 

The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the pre~nt consideration of 

the bill? 

There was no objection. 

The amendments of the Senate were concurred in. 

Mr. DORSEY moved to reconsider the vote by which the Senate 

amendments were concurred in; and also moved that the motion toreconsider be laid on the table. 

The latter motion was agreed to. 

JAMES ALBERT BONSACK. 

Mr. DANIEL. I ask unanimous consent to discharge the Committee of the Whole House from the further consideration of the bill (H. 

R. 2950) for the relief of James Albert Bonsack, and to bring it before 

the House for present consideration. 

The bill was read. 

The SPEAKER. Is there objection to the present consideration of 

the bill? 

Mr. ANDERSON, of Kansas. I will have to object. for the present. 

1\Ir. DANIEL. I ask the gentleman from Kansas to allow me .to 

make a brief explanation; and when the object of the bill is explained 

I think there will be no objection to it. This James Albert Bonsack, 

who asks that this bill be passed, was the inventor of a cigarette . machine. He applied for his American patent before he applied for 

his f01·eign patents; but by reason of delay in the Patent Office here all 

his foreign patents were granted first. 

Now by a Federal statute if any foreign patent lapses the inventor 

loses the American patent. The statute was intended to apply to those cases where persons had gone abroad and got patents first. It is very 

expensive to keep up these foreign patents which are of no use to the 

American patentee; and all that the inventor asks is that he be released 

of that obligation by a confirmation oT his American patent. It is a defect in our own law. This bill has been repl;)rted favorably by com- mittees of two Congresses. It is not for the extension of the rights of 

the patentee, but to remedy a defect in our own law which would 

otherwise deprive the inventor of the benefit of his invention. 

Mr. HENDERSON, of Iowa. Has the bill the unanimous report of 

the Committee on Patents? 

1\Ir. DANIEL. It has, and also of the committee of the Forty-eighth 

Congress. 

l'lir. ANDERSON, of Kansas. I object for the present. 

FEES ON P .ASSPORTS. 

Mr. DAVIDSON, of Florida, by unanimous consent introduced a bill 

(H. R. 10238) reducing the fee collected on passports; which was read 

twice, referred to the Committee on Foreign Affairs, and ordered to be 

printed. 

Mr. HERBERT. 

The SPEAKER. 

ORDER OF BUSINESS. 

I call for the regular order. 

The regular order is the cull of committees for 

reports . 

.Mr. HERBERT. I move to dispense with the morning hour for the 

call of committees. ... The motion was agreed to (two-thirds voting in favor thereof). 
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The SPEAKER. The regular order is now the call of committees 

for the consideration of bills for one hour. The hour begins at 12 

o'clock and 32 minutes. The call rests with the Committee on Indian 

Affairs. 

Mr. WELLBORN. I yield the floor to the gentleman from North 

Carolina [Mr. SKINNER]. 

ALLOTMENT OF LANDS L.'l SEVERALTY TO INDIANS. 

:M:r. SKINNER. I desire to make a parliamentary inquiry. 

The SPEAKER. The gentleman will state it. 

Mr. SKINNER. The bill I ask to call up for consideration is what 

is known as the Indian severalty bill; the bill (S. 54) to provide for 

the allotment of lands in severalty to Indians on the various reserva- tions, and to extend the protection of the laws of the United States and 

the Territories over the Indians, and for other purposes. It appropriates in one of its sections $100,000for carrying out the provisions of the 

bill. I want to know if it can be considered in the House, it being on the House Calendar. 

The SPEAKER. The bill is now on the House Calendar, and unless 

the point of order is made that it must have its first consideration in 

Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Unidn, it can be con- sidered in the House. 

Mr. WEAVER, of Iowa. I make the point of order. 

Mr. SKINNER. For the purpose of saving time, I ask unanimous 

consent that this bill be considered in the House as in Committee of 

the Whole. 

Mr. WEAVER, of Iowa. I object. 

Mr. WELLBORN. It has been suggested to me, Mr. Speaker, that 

probably this bill is not subject to the point of order. 

The SPEAKER. The Chair has not read the bill, but has accepted 

the statement of the gentleman from North Carolina [.Mr. SKINNER] 

that it makes an appropriation of $100,000. 

Mr. WELLBORN. That money, perhaps, is to be taken out of the 

Indian fund. 

The SPEAKER. The Chair will examine the bill. 

Mr. SKINNER. The money is to be appropriated, but it is to be 

repaid out of the sales of lands as provided in the bill. 

b-Ir; WEAVER, of Iowa. That would make no d~fference. 

The SPEAK~R. The Chair will cause section 9 of the bill to be read. 

The Clerk read as follows: 

SEC. 9. That for the purpose of making the surveys a.nd resurveys men- tioned in section 2 of this act there be, and hereby is, appropriated, out of any 

moneys in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, the sum of $100,000, to be 

repaid proportionately out of the proceeds of the sales of such lund as may be 

acquired from the Indians under the provisions of this act. 

The SPEAKER. It will be observed.from the reading of this sec- tion that the money is to be appropriated out of the Treasury of the 

United States. The fact that provision is made in the bill for therep::.yment of the money at some future time makes no difference as to 

the construction of the rule of the House. The question is on the mo- tion of the gentleman from North Carolina [Mr. SKINNER] that the 

House now resolve itself into Committee of the Whole on the state of 

the Union for the consideration of this bill. 

The motion was agreed to. 

The House accordingly resolved itself into Committee of the Whole on the state of the Union, 11Ir. CRISP in the chair. 

The CHAIRMAN. The House is now in Committee of the Whole 

for the consideration of the bill (S. 54) to provide for the allotment of 

lands in severalty to Indians on the various reservations, and to extend 

the protection of the laws of the United States and the Territories over the Indians, and for other purposes. 

111r. SKINNER. Mr. Chairman, from the beginning of our national 

existence--

Mr. WELLBORN. I suggest, Mr. Chairman, that the bill had better_ be read. 

Mr. SKINNER. I desire that the bill shall be read by sections 

after I make a brief explanation of it. I think the committee can understand the bill better after this explanation, and then the bill may 

be read bysections as we proceed in its consideration, thussavingtime. 

The CHAIRMAN. That can only be done by unanimous consent. 

Mr. WEAVER, of Iowa. I insist that the bill shall be read. 

The bill was read, as follows: 

Be it enacted, &c., That in all cases where any tribes or bands of Indians have 

been or shall hereafter be located upon any reservation created for their use, either by virtue of treaty stipulations or an act of Congress, the President of the 

United States be, and he is hereby, authorized to cause a. patent to issue for 

each of such reservations in favor of the tribe or tribes, band or bands, of Indians occupying the same under treaty stipulations or act of Congress, which 

patents shall be of the legal effect, and declare that the United States does and 

will hold the land thus patented, for the period of twenty-fh·e years, in trust for 

the sole use and benefit of the tribes or bands to which it is issued, and that at the expiration of said period the United States will convey the same, by pat- en t, in fee, discharged of said trust and free of all charg'e or incumbrance what- soever: Provided, That the President may withhold the issuance of the patent 

in fee in any case for such fo.rther time as he may deem to be for the interests 

of the Indians. And the trust created in the original patent shall be and re- main in full force until the patent in fee be issued. Each of said patents shall 

be recorded in the General Land Office and the Indian Bureau, and shall be 

then placed in charge of some person designated therefor on the reservation 

affected thereby, for the inspection and use at all times of any one interested 

therein. - _ 

SEo. 1. That in all cases where any tribe or band of Indians has been or shall 

hereafter be located upon any reservation created for their use, either by treaty 

stipulations or by virtue of an act of Congress or executive order setting apart 

the same for their use, the President be, and he hereby is, authorized, whenever 

in his opinion any reservation of such Indians, or any part thereof, is suitable 

and advantageous for agricultural or grazing purposes, and the progress in 

civilization of the tribe located thereon, or any of the members thereof, shall be 

such as to encourage the belief that an allotment of lands in severalty to the 

members of said tribe, or any of them, would be for the best interests of said In- dians, to cause said reservation, or such parts thereof as in his opinion are snitable a.nd advantageous for agricultural or grazing purposes, to be surveyed, or resurveyed if necessary, and to allot the lands in said reservation in severalty to the Indians located thereon in quantities as follows: To each head of a family, one-quarter of a section; To each single person over eighteen years of age, one-eighth of a section; To each orphan child under eighteen years of age, one-eighth of a section; and To each other person under eighteen years now living, or who may be born 

prior to the date of the order of the President directing an allotment of the lands 

embraced in any reservation, one-sixteenth of a section. In case there is not land in any of said reservations suitable and :advantage- ous for agricultural purposes sufficient to allot lands to each individual of the 

classes above named in quantities as above provided, the lands so suitable and 

advantageous embraced in such.xeservation or reservations shall be allotted to ea<!h individual of each of said classes pro rata. in accordance with the- provi· 

sions of this act: P1·cwided, '.rhat where the treaty or a.ct of Congress setting 

apart such reservation provides for the allotment of lands in severalty in quan- tities in excess of those herein provided, the President, in making the allot- ments upon such reservations, shall allot the lands to each individual Indian 

belonging thereon in quantity as specified in such treaty or act: And provided further, That where the lands on any reservation are mainly valuable for grazrng purposesJ an additional allotment of such grazing lands in quantities as above proviaed shall be made to each individual; or in case any two or more Indians who may be entitled to allotments shall so agree, the President may 

assign the grazing lands to which they may be entitled to them in one tract·, and to be held and used i.n common. SEC. 2. That all allotments set apart under the provisions of this act shall be selected by the Indians, heads of families selecting for their minor children, and 

the agents shall select for each orphan child, and in such manner as to embrace 

the improvements of the Indians making the selection. Where the improve- ments of two or more Indians have been made on the same legal subdivision of 

land, unless they shall otherwise agree, a provisional line may be run dividing said lands between them, and the amount to which each is entitled shall be 

equalized in the assignment of the remainder of the land to which they are en- titled under this act: Provided, That if any one entitled to an allotment shall fail to make a selection within five years after the President shall direct that 

allotments may be made on a particular reservation, the Secretary of the Interior 

may direct the agent of such tribe or band, if such there be, and if there be no agent, then a special agent appointed for that purpose, to make a selection for 

such Indian, which selection shall be allotted as in cases where selections are made by the Indians, and patents shall issue in like manner. SEc. 3. That the allotments provided for in this act shall be made by special 

agents appointed by the President for such purpose, and the agents in charge of the respective reservations on which the allotments are directed to be made, 

under such rules and regulations as the Secretary of the Interior may from time to time. prescribe, and shall be certified by such agents to the Commissioner of 

Indian Affa~.irs, in duplicate, one copy te be retained in the Indian Office and the 

other to be transmitted to the Secretary of the Interior for his action, and tQ be 

deposited in. the General Land Office. , - SEc. 4. That where any Indian not residing upon a reservation, or for whose 

tribe no reservation has been provided by treaty, act of Congressl or executive 

order, shall make settlement upon any surveyed or unsurveyea lands of the 

United States not otherwise appropriated, he or she shall b_e entitled, upon appli- cation to the local land office for the district in which the lands are located, tQ 

have the same allotted to him or her, and to his or her children, in quantities 

and manner as provided in this act for Indians residing upon reservations; and 

when such sett-lement is made upon unsurveyed lands, the grant to such Indians 

sha.ll be adjusted upon the survey of the lands so as to conform thereto; and 

patents shall be issued to them for such lands in the manner and with the restrictions as herein provided. And the fees to which the officers·of such local land 

office would have been entitled had such lands been entered under the general laws for the disposition of the public lands shall be paid to them, from any 

moneys in the Treasury of the United States not otherwise appropriated, upon a statement of an account in their behal! for such fees by the Commissioner 

of the General Land Office, and a certification of such account to tho Secretary of the Treasury by the Secretary of the Interoir. 

SEc. 5. That upon the approval of the allotments provided for in this act by the Secretary of the Interior, he shall cause patents to issue therefor in the name of the allottees, which patents shall be of the legal effect, and declare that the 

United States does and will hold the land thus allotted, for the period of twenty- five years, iu trust for the sole use and benefitofthelndian to whom such allot- ment shall have been made, or, in case of his decease, of his heirs according to the laws of the State or Territory where such land is located, and that at the 

expiration of said period the United States will convey the same by patent to said Indian, or his heirs as aforesaid, in fee, discharged of said trust and free of 

all charge or incumbrance whatsoever. And if any conveyance shall be made 

of the lands set apart and allotted a.s herein provided, or any contract made 

touching the same, before the expiration of the time above mentioned, such 

conveyance or contract shall be absolutely null and void: Provided, That these 

patents, when issued, shall override the patent authorized to be issued to the 

tribes or bands occupying reservations created by virtue of treaty stipulations or act of Congress, and shall separate the individual allotment from the lands 

held in common, which proviso shall be incorporated in each of the tribal pat- ents: Provided further, That the l:l.w of descent and partition in force in the State or Territory where such la.nds are situate shall apply theretQ after patents therefor have been executed and delivered, except as herein otherwise provided; and the laws of the State of Kansas regulating the descent and partition ofrea.l estate shall, so far as practicable, apply to all lands in the Indian Territory which 

may be allotted in severalty under the provisions of this act: And provided fur- ther, That at ;any time after lands have been allotted to all the Indians of any tribe as herein provided, or sooner if in the opinion of the President it shall be 

for the best interests of said tribe, it shall be lawful for the Secretary of the In- terior to negotiate with such Indian tribe for the purchase and release by said 

tribe, in conformity with the treaty or statute under which such reservation is 

held, of such portions of its reservation not allotted as such tribe shall1 from time to time, consent to sell, on such terms and conditions a.s shall be considered just and equitable between the United States and said tribe of Indians, which pur- chase shall not be complete until ratified by Congress, and the form and man- ner of executing such release shall also be prescribed by Congress; and the 

principal of all sums agreed to be paid by the United States as the purchase-price 

of any portion of any such reservation shall be payable only to the Indians or Indian tribe from whom such purchase was made by the express authority of 

Congress, after the expiration of twenty-five years from the purchase of said 

lands; but the same shall, in the mean time, be placed in the Treasury of the 

United States to the credit of the tribe or tribes of Indians entitled thereto; and in the mean time, and until such principal sum shall be paid over to or expended 
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for the benefit of said Indians, the United States shall pay interest annually upon said principal sums at the rate of 5 per cent. per annum, which interest shall be 

paid t{) the Secretary of the Interior for the use and benefit of such Indian tribes, 

and shall be used for the purpose of educating and preparing them for self-support, and applied to their sup~rt and maintenance, as may be necessary. The 

patents aforesaid shall be recorded in the General Land Office, and afterward 

delivered, free of charge, to the allottee entitled thereto. And if any religious 

society or other organization is now occupying any of the public lands to which this act is applicable, for religious or educational work among the Indians, the 

Secretary of the Interior is hereby authorized to confirm such occupation to such society or organization, in quantity not exceeding 160 acres in any one tract, so long as the same shall be so occupied, on such terms as he shall deem 

just; but nothing herein contained shall change or alter any claim of such so- ciety for religious or educational purposes heretofore granted by law. 

SEC. 6. That upon the completion of said allotments and the patenting of the 

lands to said allottees, each and every member of the respective bands or tribes 

of Indians to whom allotments have been made shall have the benefit of and 

be subject to the laws, both civil and criminal, of the State or Territory in 

which they may reside; and no Territory shall pass or enforce any law denying any such Indian within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the law. 

And every Indian born within the territorial limits of the United States t{) 

whom allotments shall have been made under the provisions of this act, and every Indian born within the territorial limits of the United States who has 

voluntarily taken up, within said limits, his residence separate and apart 

from any tribe of Indians therein, and has adopted the habits of civilized life, 

is hereby declared to be a citizen of the United States, and is entitled to·au the 

rights, privileges, and immunities of such citizens, whether said Indian has 

been or not1 by birth or otherwise, a member of any tribe of Indians within the 

territorial limits of the United States, without in any manner impairing or otherwise affecting the right of any such Indian to tribal or otjler property. 

SEc. 7. That in cases where the use of water for irrigation is necessary to ren- der the lands within any Indian reservation available for agricultural pur~ses, 

the Secretary of the Interior be, and he is hereby, authorized to prescribe such 

rules and regulations as he may deem necessary to secure a just and equal distribution thereof among the Indians residing upon any such reservations; and no other appropriation or grant of water by any riparian proprietor shall be 

authorized or permitted to the damage of any other riparian proprietor. 

SEc. 8. That the provision of this act shall not extend to the territory occu- pied by the Cherokees, Creeks, Choctaws, Chickasaws, Seminoles, and Osages1 tn the Indian Territory, nor to any of the reservations of th.e Seneca Nation oi - New York Indians in the State of New York, no.r to that strip of territory .in 

the State of Nebraska adjoining the Sioux Nation on the south, added by execu- tive order. 

SEc. 9. That for the purpose of making the surveys and resurveys mentioned 

in section 2 of this act, there be, o.nd hereby is1 appropriated, out of any moneys in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, the sum of$100,000, to be repaid pro- portionately out of the proceeds of'the sales of such land as may be acquired 

from the Indians under the proyisions of this act. SEc. 10. That nothing in this act contained shall be so construed as to affect 

the right and power of Congress to grant the right of way through any lands 

granted to an lndian, or a tribe of Indians, for railroads or other highways, or telegraph lines, for the public use, ortocondemnsuchlands to public uses, upon making just compensation. 

The amendments reported by the Committee on Indian Affairs were read; as follows: 

(1) Strike out sections 1 and 2 of said bill and inse1·t in lieu the eof the following: 

"That in aU cases where any tribe or band of Indians has been, or shall hereafter be, located upon any reservation created for their use, either by treaty 

stipulation or by virtue of an act of Congress or executive order setting apart 

J:he same for their use, the SecretQry of .the Interior be, and he hereby is, authorized, whenever in his opinion any reservation of such Indians is advantageous 

for agricultural and grazing purposes, to cause said reservation to be surveyed, or resurveyed if necessary, and to allot the lands in said reservation in severalty to the Indians located thereon, in quantities as specified in the treaty with said 

tribes or bands if said reservation was created by treaty: Provided, That in all cases where no provision for the allotment of land is made in the treaties, acts, · or executive orders creating or relating to said reservations, allotments in sev- eralty may be made thereon as follows: · "To each head of a family, one-quarter of a section; 

"To each single person over eighteen years of age, one-eighth of a section ; "To each orphan child under e]ghteen years of age, one-eighth of a section; 

and 

"To each other person under eighteen years now living, or who may be born 

prior to the date ofthe order of the Secretary of the Interior directing an allot- ment of the lands embraced in any reservation, one-sixteenth of a section: Provided, That in case there is not sufficient land in any of said reservations to allot 

lands to each individual of the classes above named in quantities as above p-ro- vided, the lands embraced in such reservation or reservations shall be alloted to each individual of each of said classes pro rat!l. in accordance with the provisions 

of this act." 

{2) Strike out all after the word "void," in line 16, section 6, up to the word 

"Provided," in Une 21. 

(3) Strike out all aft-er the word "Congress," in line4.0, seetion_6, up to and in· 

cluding the word" necessary," in line 54. 

(4) Insert after the word" Osage," in line 3, section 9, the following: "Miamies and Peorias, and Sacs and Foxes." 

(5) At the end of the bill add the following: 

"SEc. 2. That the provisions of this act shall not extend to any tribe of In- dians until the consent of two-thirds of the male members twenty-one years of age shall be first had·and obtained." 

(6) That the several sections ofthe bill be renumbered. We recommend that the bill, when so .amended, do pass. 

?.Ir. SKINNER. Mr. Chairman, from the beginning of our existence as a nation the Indian has been the subject of national legislation; but 

at no time so much as now has there been such pressing necessity for 

the adoption of a general Indian policy; the enactment of some measure 

that will lead to a correct solution of the Indian problem. 

AP. long as the great West remained unoccupied or sparsely settled 

by the white man and abounded with game, the Indian retired before 

the advancing civilization of the white man, and subsisted by the chase. 

But now the white civilization of the East has-been met by the white 

civilization from the West. The game has been destroyed, and the 

food supply from that source is gone from the Indian, and gone forever. 

This being a true statement of the situation, the Indian must either 

perish, depend upon the Government for support, or abandon-hia thrift.. 

less habits, learn to eat bn~ad in the sweat of his face, and finally rise 

to the level of the civilization that surrounds him and take upon him· 

self the duties and responsibilities of American citizenship. Starvation, 

pauperisJD, or independent, self-supporting citizenship-between these 

the Indian must take his choice, or, rather, we, as his guardians, must 

choose for him. That the latter may be his destiny is the desire of 

the Committee on Indian Affairs, and, I believe, of this Congress and 

the country. 

In my opinion, our fathers erred in not at first adopting an Indian 

policy that could lead to this end. Instead of removing the Eastern 

Indians from their Eastern homes-instead of massing large numb.ers 

of Indians upon one reser•ation, thus postponing their civilizationthey should have left the Indians where they found them and civilized them by piece-meal as they came to them. 

But it is useless to grieve over spilled milk or to recount the wrongs 

that the red man has suffered at the hands of the white man, or the 

mistakes that our predecessors have made in their attempts to solve 

the Indian problem, or to postpone iU:l solution. The Indian as he is today confronts us and demands consideration. What shall be his future 

status? Shall he remain a pauper savage, blocking the pathway of 

civilization, an increasing burden upon the people? Or shall he be 

converted into a civilized tax-payer, contributing toward the support of the Government and adding to the material prosperity of the 

country? 

These are the questions that press upon us for consideration. We 

desire, I say, that the latter shall be his destiny. How is so great a change in his condition to be effected? By what path can we lead him 

to the plane of citizenship? This is the problem presented for our 

solution. 

The present Commissioner of Indian Affairs, who, in the line of his 

duty, has given these questions his most earnest thought, says in his 

annual report, 1885, and reiterates it in his L'lSt report, that it should be 

impressed upon the Indians "that they must abandon their tribal relation and take lands in severalty as the corner-stone of their complete success in agriculture; which means self-support, personal independence, and material thrift." 

One of the most successful Indian educators of the day-the pioneer 

of the present system of Indian education, Capt. R. H. Pratt, the superintendent of the Indian school at Carlisle, Pa.-in a speech before the 

Military Service Institution, December 10, 1885, said: 

The policy of providing one te!Wher for from one hundred and fifty to two hundred Indians needs to be reversed to a policy that will provide from one hundred and fifty to two hundred teachers t{) each Ind.ian. This will be the case when our two hundred and sixty thousand Indians are brought into contact 

1

with our fifty million people. 

This means that the tribal relations must be broken up; that the 

practice of massing large numbers of Indians on reservations must be 

stopped; that lands must be allotted in severalty; that where there is more land in any reservation than the Indians on that reservation can 

profitably use, such surplus lands must be so disposed of that the white man may get possession of them and come in conta<:t with the Indians. 

We offer the pending bill, intending for it to fill the full measure of all 

these requirements, and believing that it points out the most direct 

route to citizenship for the Indian. 

Under its provisions any individual India.n who desires to do so can take a fee-simple title to a certain quantity of land, sufficient for him 

to make a living upon as a fru:mer or grazer, shake off the shackles of 

tribal authority, and become a citizen of the United States without let or hinderance from the tribe to which be belongs; and whenever a ma- jority of the male adults on any reser•ation desiJ:e it the reservation can be broken up, and. the lands, in certain quantities, specified in the 

bill, allotted in severalty to the Indians who belong on such reservation; 

and as soon as the allotment is made the allottee becomes a citizen of 

the United States, the strong arm of the law protects him, as it does 

any other citizen, in life, liberty, and property; and, in addition there- to~ his land is made inalienable and non-taxn,ble for a sufficient length 

of time for the new citizen to become accustomed to his new life, to 

learn his rights as a citizen, and prepare himself to cope on an equal 

footing with any white man who might attempt to cheat him out ot 

his newly acquired property; and, in the mean time, the surplus lands 

upon such reservations can be sold, and the money arising from such 

sale can be used in such manner as Congress may direct in each particular case, ibr the benefit of the Indians to whom the land belonged. 

Giving the individual Indian a title to the land upon which heresides will have a tendency to stimulate him to work and improve his 

land and accumulate property, to make him feel more independent and 

self-reliant; and by associating him with the white man, which will 

be the case when the reservations are broken up and the surplus lands 

opened up to white settlement, he will learn habits of thrift and industry. 

The effect of the tribal and reservation policy upon the Indian is to 

make him dependent, to pauperize him to a greater or less degree, to 

dwarf his mind, and to clog his energies. Huddle together two hundred and six.ty-thousana illiterate white people upon reservations, forbid all intercourse between them and other people, issue rations to them, 

make them dependent, and you make paupers of the large majority of 

them,. and the next generation would be as adverse to working for Jt 

living as the Indian is now. · 
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If when the late war ended the Government had gathered all the ne- groes in the South upon a reservation and had pursued toward them the 

same policy that has been pursued toward the Indian, the result would 

have showed ftself in a negro appropriation bill of much longer proportions than the Indian appropriation bill of last year., and the negro 

race would hn.ve deteriorated as rapidly as it has advanced in the scale 

of humanity. 

· Twenty-one years ago the negro was suddenly raised from slavery 

to freedom, and shot at once into citizenship, utterly incompet-ent to 

appreciate the meaning of the word or the rights that became his in 

his new condition; with no book-education, no money, no land; dependent entirely upon hi'l muscle tor bread and clothes; and yet in all 

these years he has been self-supporting, and by long and rapid strides 

has been advancing in civilization. It is all due to the prec~pt and 

example of the white people with whom they have come in daily 

contact. 

I am informed by those who know both the Indian and the negro 

that the Indian is the superior. Give, then, to the red man the black 

man's chance. Let him become a citizen of the United States and be 

taught by contact with the white man. And in addition thereto give 

him his land as is provided in this bill and extend over him and his 

property the same protection that is accorded to white men and the 

black, and the Indian will soon cease to be burden to the Government, and in good time will help to bear its burdens and add to the 

material wealth of the country. The Indian problem will be solved. 

Mr. SKINNER. I yiPld the remainder of my time to the gentleman from Kansas [l'tlr. PERKINS]. 

Mr. PERKINS. Mr. Chairman, I desire to add only a few words 

to the suggestions made by the gentleman from North Carolina [~1r. 

SKINNER]. This bill is in keeping witn the sentiment of the country, 

as it is, in my judgment, responsive to the best interests of the Indians, 

the best interests of the whites, ·and the best interests of the country 

generally. It has the warm indorsement and approval of the Secretary 

of the Interior, of the Commissioner of Indian Affairs, and of all those 

who have given attention to the subject of the education, the Christianization, and the development of the Indian race. It is for the good of 

the Indians and for the good of all. As suggested by the gentleman 

from North Carolina [Mr. SKINNER], let us enact this bill, and the 

Indian problem is substantially solved. The bill provides for the 

breaking up, as rapidly as possible, of all the tribal organizations and 

for the allotment of lands to the Indians in severalty, in order that 

they may possess them individua.lly and proceed to-qualify themselves 

for the duties and responsibilities of citizenship. 

The bill, as I have already suggested, is in keeping with the sentiment of the country. Almost every community in the laud is a&king 

for such legislation. In the judgment of the great mass of the American people the time has come when the policy of keeping the Indians 

together in their t1ibal organizations and restraining and controlling 

them by bayonets and shotguns must be abandoned and a new era inaugurated-an era of the allotment of lands to the Indians in severalty, an era of education, an era in which they shall be enabled and required 

to qualify themselves for the duties of American citizenship, and to 

support themselves by industry and toil. · Thap is the spirit and object of this bill. For that reason, as L have suggested, it meets the 

warm approval of all the Government officers whose duties bring them 

in close contact with the Indians, and it has also the indorsement of 

the Indian rights associations throughout the country, and of the best 

sentiment of the land. 

I desire simply to suggest that of the amendments which we a.s a 

committ-ee offer to the Senate bill only two are of much importance. 

The first which will be offered is to strike out that portion of the first sectior~ which provides for a tribal patent. Although the Senate bill 

has made such provision, the judgment of our committee was and is 

that the time had passed for the issuance of tribal patents. 

.Another amendment which we shall offer is to strike out that por=-

tion of the sixth section which provides tlk'lt money accruing from t.he 

sale of the Indian lands shall be deposited in the Treasury of the United 

States to the credit of the Indians for a period of twenty-five years. In 

the judgment of our committee this provision is wrong. We believe 

there ought not to be any such stipulation in the bill. When the Secretary of the Interior enters into negotiations with the Indians for the 

a.llotment of lands to them in severalty and for the purchase of the re- maining lands let him then make the best contract that can be made 

for their good and for the good of the people generally, leaving the 

stipulations of that contract to be determined by the circumstances 

then existing, subject to the approval and ratification of Congress. 

Those are, substantially, the amendments which will be offered to the 

bill as passed by the Senate. This bill was passed by that body at the 

last s~ion. A s-imilar measure passed the Senate in the Forty-eighth 

and in the Forty-seventh Congresses. This measure has thus received 

public attention and has secured the indorsement of those competent 

to form a sound judgment upon the question. · 

Unless there are some gentlemen who desire to propound inquiries 

concerning some of the features of the bill, or unless some members 

wish to occupy a few minutes in opposition to it, I shall ask that the 

bill be read by sections for consideration under the five-minute rule. If 

any gentleman wishes to ask any question or to occupy a short time in 

"Opposition to the measure, I am ready to yield a few minutes for that 

purpose. 

Mr. WEAVER, of Iowa. I have an amendment which I wish to 

suggest when we reach the proper point in the bill. 

Mr. STEELE. I wish to inquire of the gentleman from Kansas [~I r. PERKINs] whether this bill provides that Indians may become citizens 

without the formality of tak:illg out naturalization papers. 

Mr. PERKINS. Under section 7 of the bill every Indian born within 

the territoriallimits of the United States to whom allotment shai.l have 

been made under the provisions of this act, and every Indian born 

within the territorial limits of the United States, who has voluntarily 

taken up within said limits his residence, separate and apart from any 

tribe of Indians therein, and has adopted the habits of civilized life, is 

declared to be a citizen of the United States, without formal application 

to the court. 

Mr. STEELE. I understand that in some cases which have arisen 

in the gentleman's own State it has been decided that Indians could not 

be admitted to citizenship because they had not gone through the formality of taking out naturalization papers. 

M.r. PERKINS. I understand that to be the 1aw generally; but 

Congress has provided by special legislation .for the naturalization of· 

certain Indians or of members of certain tribes. In my own State, by 

act of Congress, certain Indians have become citizens by declaration in 

the United States courts of the State, upon the court being satisfied of· their qualification for the duties of citizenship. 

Mr. STEELE. This bill does not propose to require tkat formality? 

M:r. PERKINS. It does not require it; yet it is not in conflict With 

the provisions of law heretofore enacted. 

Mr. ROGERS. I wish to ask my friend from Kansas why in the 

eighth section the Miamies, Peorias, and Sacs and Foxes, are excepted 

from the operations of the bill? 

Mr. PERKINS. Principally because in a separate bill which has 

been COJlSidered by ou:r committee, and reported favorably to the House, 

provision has been made for the allotment of their lands to them in 

severalty, and also for a division of their fund. They have quite a 

fllDd, and theyhave lands which they have purchased. The condition 

of their lands is much like that of the lands owned by the Cherokees, 

Choctaws, Creeks, and Seminoles. For this reason, it was thought that 

those Indians should be excepted from the operations of the bill. 

Ur. ROGERS. Did the committee pass upon the power of Congress 

to apply the provisions of the· bill to the five civilized tribes? 

Mr. PERKINS. Not formally. The Senate had exempted them 

from the operations of the bill, and we concurred in that action of the 

Senate without formally discussing the matter. Of course there was 

doubt in the minds of many of us as to whether we had any authority 

to interfere with the rights of those Indians there; yet the committee 

took no formal action upon that proposition; because the Senate had 

already exempted those Indians from the provisions of the bill. ~ir. Chairman, I now ask that the bill be read by sections under the 

five-minute ru1e. 

The first section was read. 

:M:r. PERKINS. The committee recommend striking out this and 

the second section, and substituting for these two a new section. Perhaps it is best that the next section should be read, before considering 

the amendment. 

The second section was read. 

The amendment proposed by the Committee on Indian Affairs as a substitute fo1· sections 1 and 2 was read, as follows: 

That in all cases where any tribe or band of Indians has been, or shall here- after be, located upon any reservation created for their use, either by treaty 

stipulation or by virtue of o.n o.ct of Congress or executive order setting apart the same for their use, the Secretary of the Interior be, and he hereby is, author- ized, whenever in his opinion any reservation of such Indians is advantageous for agricultural and grazing pul'poses, t-o cause said reservation to be surveyed, or resurveyed if necessary, and t-o allot the lands in said reservation in severalty t-o the Indians located thereon, in quantities as specified in the treaty with said tribes or bands if said reservation was created by treaty: Provided, That in all cases where no provision for the allotment of land is made in the treaties, acts, or execut.i \'e orders creating or relating to said reservations, allotments in sev- eralty may be made thereon as follows: To each head of a family, one quarter of a section; To each single person o>el' eighteen yenrs of a.,.ooe, one-eighth of a section ; To each orphan child under eighteen years of age, one-eighth of a. section; and 

To each other person under eighteen years now living, or who may be born prior to the date of the order of the Secretary of the Interior directing an allot- ment of the lands embraced in any reservation, one-sixteenth of a section: Pro~ided, That in case th~re is not sufficient land in any of said reservations to allot lands to each individual of the classes above named in quantities as above provided, the lands embraced in such reservation or reservations shall be allotted to each individual of each of said classes pro l'ata in accordance with the pro· visions of this act. 

Mr. SKINNER. After this bill, with the amendment just read, 

had been reported to the House, the Committee on Indian Affairs 

formu1ated some other amendments to this portion of the bill, which 

I desire now to have read for consideration and adoption. 

The Clerk read as follows: 

In section Lline lO,after the word "reservation," add fhewords "or a-ny part 

thereof;" and in line 12, after the word "to," insert the words" any or all;" strike out the word "the," and after the word "thereon" add the words "upon their application." _. 
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Strike out all after the word "quantities," in line 13, section 1, up to the word 

"as," in line 18; and add at the end of the section the following: . "And p1·ovided further, That where the treaty or a.ct _of Congress ~ettmg apl!-rt such reservation provides for the allotment of lands m severalty 1n quant1t1es 

in excess of those herein provided, the Secretary of the Interior, in malting allot- ment-s upon such reservation, shall allot the lands to each individual Indian belonging thereon in quantities as specified in such treaty or act: And provided 

further, That when the lands allotted are only valuable for grazingp~poses,an 

additional allotment ofsaid grazing lands in quantities as above provided shall 

be made to each individual." In line 24, section 1, after the word "other," insert the word "single." 

Mr. WEAVER, of Iowa. Who offered that? 

Mr. SKINNER. That is offered by the commHtee. 

Mr. WEAVER, of Iowa. It provides for the allotment of double the 

quantity of land. 

Mr. SKINNER. Yes; when it cannot be used for agricultural purposes. 

Mr. WEAVER, of Iowa. That willlea.d, in my judgment, to a very 

dangerous construction. Everything will be grazing land-everything 

will be unfit for cultivation. I do not think you ought to pass that 

amendment. 

Mr. SKINNER. I am not authorized to withdraw it, as I have presented it from the committee, where it was adopted on full consideration. 

Mr. WEAVER, of Iowa. The quantity designate.d in the bill for allotment to individual Indians is ample; and I think the amendment 

offered providing for a double quantity of land for grazing purposes 

ought not to be pressed. · The CHAIRMAN. Is there objection to the amendment of the com- mittee? 

Mr. WEAVER, of Iowa. Yes; I object to that amendment. 

The CHAIRMAN. It will be put to the House. Is there objection 

to any other amendment of the committee? 

Mr. THROCKMORTON. I desire to be heard on the question--

The CHAIRMAN. The question is not before the committee, but 

the Chair is asking whether there is objection to the amendment proposed by the committee. The gentleman from Iowa [Mr. WEAVER] 

objects to one amendment. Is there objection to the other amendments? 

[After a pause.] . The Chair hears none, and the amendments with that 

exception are agreed to. 

The question now recurs. on the amendment to the amendment proposed by the Committee on· Indian Affairs, which will be again read by 

the Clerk. · 

The Clerk read as follows: 

Provided further, Where the lands allotted are only valuable for grazing pur- poses an additional allotment of such grazing lands in quantities as above pro- vided shall be made to each individual. 

Mr. WEAVER, of Iowa. Mr .. Chairman, that amendment, in my 

judgment, is not a good one; that is in the case where lands are determined to be unfit for agricultural purposes it provides for the allotment 

of double the quantity of land. Now just what the decision might be as to the character of land in question may lead to an entire subversion 

of the idea upon which the bill has been drawn. It provides for giving 

every head of a. family 160 acres, and so on, in smaller quantities as you descend. Here, in case of grazing lands, it is proposed to allot 

twice the quantity, or 320 acres·. One hundred and sixty acres is 

enough to allot to the head of~ family, and 80 acres.~ those. under 

eio-hteen years of age. The bill makes ample proviSwn, while the n.~endment would give 720a{lres. Thatis too much, in my judgment, 

and I hope the hill will be allowed to go through as it stands. 

Mr. THROCKMORTON. Mr. Chairman, there has been so much 

confusion in the Hall I do not understand just what objection has been 

made. I believe the amendment of the committee is right, and that 

in the case of lands which are not arable lands and not fit for cultivation the allotment should be doubled. 

Mr. WEAVER, of Iowa. The amendment provides that where lands are unfit for cultivation t·he allotment shall be doubled. . Mr. THROCKMORTON. In my judgment the double quantity 

should be given outright. There should be no hesitation about that. 

We can not expect wild Indians to live upon as little an amount of 

land as white men. - The first thing we ought to do is to give them gmzing lands, and then 

give them agricultural lands. G~ve the~ grazing lands and give. them 

also agricultural lands. Yon will not rnduce these people to become 

agriculturists until they become herders. You have to teach them to 

herd and feed stock. They have first to become the owners of stock 

and herders of stock on grazing lands before they succeed in becoming 

agriculturists. .My judgment, therefore, is the amendment of the com- mittee should be adopted, which provides for. granting double the quantity of grazing lands. While I am up I will take occasion to say that 

the information is spreading among these Indians that Congress has 

determined to grant thenilandsin severalty. During the vacation twelve 

or fifteen members of one of the tribes upon the Comanche reservation 

Yisited· me for the purpose of urging Congress to take this action and 

give them land in severalty. It is an inducement which will make 

them work whenever they ascertain the Government will devote a particular pieceofland to each individual Indian where he may settle, and 

where the improvements which may be made, as well as the laud itself, 

will be his-where all the improvements which shall be put upon the 

land will inure to his benefit and to the benefit of his. children. It 

will be a stimulus to him to go to work and become an agriculturist. 

While the bill p1·ovides for the allowance of 160 acres to each Indian 

of agricultural lands, I think it is proper also they should have a double quantity of grazing lands for their use and benefit. Three hu,ndred 

and twenty acres of these grazing lands is not too much for the head 

of a family-160 acres of arable land and 320 of grazing land. By so doing you will induce them to become owners of herds of cattle and 

flocks of sheep by giving them these grazing lands upon which they 

may raise their herds. I hope, therefore, the amendment of the com- mittee will prevail. 

:Mr. WEAVER, of Iowa. I differ from the gentleman in the opinion 

which he has expressed. I think the Indian never will cease to be- come a herder until he becomes an agriculturist. lle is a natural 

herder. 

The white man must be considered in this matter as well as the Indian. Under the bill, if the amendments be adopted, a family of four 

persons, supposing the children to be over eighteen years of age, will 

be allotted 360 acres of arable land and 360 acres of grazing land, or 720 acres in all. In my judgment that is too much, but on the con- trary yon will sooner civilize them if you will confine them to a less area. The CHAIRMAN. The question is on the amendment proposed by 

the committee. 

The committee divided and there were-ayes 78, noes 8. 

Mr. WEAVER, of Iowa. N9 quorum has voted. · The CHAIRMAN. The hour tor the consideration of the bill has 

expired. • 1\Ir. WEAVER, of Iowa. I move the committee rise. 

The motion was agreed to; and the ~mmittee accordingly rose, and 

the Speaker having resumed the chair, Mr. CRISP reported that the 

Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union had, according to order, had underconsideration the bill (S. 54) to provide for the 

allotment of lands in severalty to Indians on the various reservations, 

and to extend the protection of the laws of the United States and the 

Territories over. the Indians, and for other purposes, and had come to no resolution thereon. 

CONSOLIDATION OF NAVY BUREAUS. 

1\Ir. HERBERT. I move the House resolve itself into the Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union for the purpo8e of 

taking up for consideration the special order for the day, the bill (H. 

R 7635) to consolidate certain bureaus of the Navy, and for other purposes. 

Mr. RA.l~ALL. If the House shall resolve itself into the Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union will not the sundry 

civil appropriation bill be first in order? . · The SPEAKER. There is a special order for to-day, and the gentle- man from Alabama proposes to go into committee to ~ke up that special order. · Mr. BOUTELLE. But is not that special order subject to appropriation bills? 

The SPEAKER. It would be. Ifthegentleman from Pennsylvania. 

should move togo into the Committee of the Whole to·consider appropriation bills, the Chair would have to put that question first. 

1f1r. HERBERT. My motion is before the House. 

1\1r. RANDALL. I make the motion so as to give the House a choice 

between the two matters. 

Mr. HERBERT. I hope the gentleman will withdraw his motion, as mine is the special order. 

The SPEAKER. Does the gentleman withdraw? 

111r. RANDALL. I prefer the House shall determine the question, 

and therefore insist on the motion. I have no objection to considering 

the motion which the gentleman from Alabama indicates, but I think 

the House should decide, and not the gentleman from Alabama. 

The House divided; and there were-ayes 122, noes 31. 

So 1\Ir. RANDALL's motion was agreed to. 

The House accordingly resolved itself into the Committee of the 

Whole House on the state of the Union, 1\fr. HAMMOND in the chair. 

The CHAIRMAN. The House is in Committee of the Whole for 

the further consideration of the bill (H. R. 10072) making appropriations for sundry civil expenses of the Government for the fiscal year 

ending June 30, 1888, and for other purposes. 

The Chair desires to sk'\te that on yesterday he ruled that 162 made a quorum. That may become an important question, and the Chair 

desires to say it is an open one. · . -

The Clerk will read the pending amendment! submitted by the gentleman from Maine [Mr. DINGLEY] last evening. 

The Clerk read as follows: 

"After line 59 insert: Supply steamer: Fo1· the construction of n. steamer f<?r 

the transportation of oils and other supplies to the light-houses on the Atlantic 

and Gulf coasts, $147,500, or so much thereof as may be necessary." · 

1\Ir. DINGLEY. Mr. Chairman, this amendment proposes an appro· 

priation to carry out a law enacted at the last session of Congress. By an act of July 28, 1886, which was adopted by both Houses after full 

discussion on a unanimous report of the Committee on Commerce oJ 
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both Houses and the recommendation of the Secretary of the Treasury 

and the Light-House Board, the Secretary of the Treasury was directed 

and authorized to cause the construction of one supply steamer for the 

South .Atlantic and Gulf light-house districts, and one for the fourth 

light-house district. In the last sundry civil appropriation bill an appropriation was made for a small steamer for the fourth light-house district, but no appropriation was made for the large steamer for the South 

.Atlantic and Gulf light-house districts. The Secretacy of the Treasury 

and the Light-House Board in communications represent it is indispenSable this steamer to supply the light-houses of that district should 

be at once constructed. But there is no provision in the bill as reported 

by the Committee on Appropriations for that purpose. 

The Secretary of the Light-House Board states this steamer is neces- sary-first, because the present small steamer is inadequate for the 

wants of the two districts. It is a1'3o required as a buoy tender. The 

representation is further made by the Light-House Board, more than 

two-thirds, or nearly two-thirds,· of the mineral oil sent to light-house 

districts along the South .Atlantic and Gulf coasts is obliged to be 

sent by freight. .As it can not be sent by passenger steamers carrying 

freight there is great delay. The saving of cost in supplying lighthouses in the two districts by the construction of this steamer would 

be more than sufficient to pay the interest on the expense of construction and running of the steamer which is asked. It seems to me, after 

the two Houses of Congress aft.er deliberate consideration have de• 

cided this light-house supply steamer should be constructed, and that 

act has become a law, and when the Light-House Board and the Secretary, of the Treasury say it is indispensable, there ought not be any 

further delay in making the necessary appropriation therefor. 

Mr. CLARDY. Mr. Chairman, the merits of the amendment proposed by the gentleman from Maine were discussed at some length 

when the bill authorizing the construction of the steamer to which it 

refei.'S was under consideration in the last session of this Congress. 

That discussion was participated in by the gentleman froll\ Maine him-

~elfwho now offers ~he amendment, by the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. RANDALL], and others, and the bill passed the House 

unanimously. I trust there will be no objection now on the part of 

the Committee on Appropriations to the amendment the gentleman 

proposes. 

Mr. RANDALL. Jr!r. Chairman, the facts of the case with refer- ence to this steamer are. as follows: There is a law authorizing the con- s4uction of this vessel. There is an estimate for the amount necessary 

to construct it submitted to Congress; but the committee omitted it 

from the bill for the reason that by the construction of the fourth district light-house tender there is another vessel, the Geranium, which 

is released from that service and can be applied to the service intended 

by the construction of this new vessel proposed by the amendment. 

The Fern is now e,nga.ged in the transportation of mineral oils, and 

the Geranium, by the construction of the new fourth district lighthouse tender, will be released fram that service as well. These two 

vessels will then be able to perform the duty which is proposed to be 

accomplished by the amendment. This is the ground upon which th'e committee opposed the construction of the vessel provided for in the 

amendment. . I may state, however, that it was not the purpose of the committee 

ultimately to resist the construction of the vessel, but only for the 

time being; believing that the service could be amply supplied by the 

Geranium. 

Mr. DINGLEY. But, let me ask the gentleman, ought not the 

statement of the Light-House Board, the recommendations of the Treasury Department, and the action of Congress as to the necessity for the 

construction of this new vessel, control, or have at least some weight 

with the committee in a matter of this character? These recommen- dations indicate that this is indispensable. 

Mr. RANDALL. I do not think it is indispensable to comply with 

the estimates in every case. 

Mr. DINGLEY. But Congress thought so when it passed the law 

directing the Secretary to cause such a vessel to be constructed. 

Mr. RANDALL. But the Light-House Board have not importuned 

us personally n.bout it, which would probably have been the case if it were necessary; and, besides, we knew as a matter of fact that that 

other vessel was released and could be utilized for this service. 

Mr. DINGLEY. But that has been transferred to the buoy service. 

Mr. RANDALL. I think not; I do not so understand. No such 

information comes to the committee. On the contrary, the officer at the 

hea.d of the Light-House Board made no such recommendation. 

Mr. DINGLEY. And besides, I understand that the vessel to which 

the gentleman from Pennsylvania refers is entirely unfit for the serv- ice in the Gulf and South Atlantic waters. 

Ur. RANDALL. If, as has been shown,~t is fit for the service in the 

North .Atlantic, it is certainly _fit for the service in the calmer and more · pacific waters of the south. 

Mr. CLARDY. In reply to the gentleman from Pennsylvania let 

me say that the Light-House Board in its report, in which they ask an 

appropriation for the construction of a steamer for the fourth lighthouse district, say they have other uses for the Geranium. 

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Mr. RANDALL. I have no doubt of that, because they want an- other steamer constructed. But this is the use we thought it could be 

applied to, and the committee believed it therefore unnecessary to con- struct another vessel for the same service. _ 

Mr. CLARDY. .And I suppose there will be the same objection to 

that vessel as to the Fern. 

Mr. RANDALL. The trouble with the Fern is that it is alleged to 

be too small to perform the service; but when the other vessel is applied to this service, the two can certainly perform it. 

Mr. CLARDY. Butthe operationof twovesselswill bemnchmore 

expensive, I imagine; and on the score of economy we had better have 

one large enough. 

Mr. R.AND.ALL. That is a question. But for the present, while we have the vessels, they may as well be applied to this service. 

Mr. CLARDY. They say in their report, too, that there is some other use for the Geranium. 

Mr. RANDALL. Thai; may be, but this is the use to which it 

should be applied. There is no question whatever that the Fern and 

Geranium together are sufficient to perform the necessary transportation 

for the mineral oils for the Light-House Board. . Mr. DINGLEY. There is a statement from the Light-House Board 

that they are not sufficient to perform the service. 

Mr. RANDALL. I understand that. It is because they want an- other vessel built. ' 

The CHA.ffi.MAN (Mr. HATCH in the chair). The Chair thinks that 

the time allowed for debate on this amendment is exhausted. 

Mr. RANDALL. Let us have a vote. 

The question was taken on the amendment of Mr. DINGLEY; the 

committee divided, and there were-ayes 55, noes 64. 

Mr. DINGLEY. For the purpose of having a vote by tellers I make 

the point that no quorum has voted. The CHAIRMAN. The point of order being made that no quorum 

has vote~ the Chair will order tellers. 

:Mr. DINGLEY and Mr. RANDALL were appointed tellers. 

The committee again divided, and the tellers reported-ayes 91, 

noes 73. 

So the amendment was agreed to. 

The Clerk read as follows: 

Mosquito Inlet Light-Station, Florida: For completing the construction of the 

light-bouse at Mosquito Inlet, Fla., ~20,000, 

Mr. DAVIDSON, of Florida. I offer the amendment I send to the 

desk. · The Clerk read as follows: 

In lieu of line 71, page 4, between the word "bay" and the word "at" insert 

"at or near the anchorage in Santa Maria de Galvaez Bay." 

Mr. DA. VIDSON, of Florida. The words to be inserted, should this 

amendment be adopted, will be found in the bill which became a law 

at the last session of Congress, and by authority of which these lights are to be established. In the preparation of the Book of Estimates at 

the Treasury Department the words were overlooked and unintentionallyJeft out. My amendment does not increase the appropriation at all. 

Mr. RANDALL. This is an error oftheDepartment. There is an omission in the estimates, and therefore it does not appear in the bill. 

The amendment was agreed to. 

The Clerk read the following paragraph: 

For salary of one superintendent for life-saVing stations and for the houses of 

refuge on the coasts of South Carolina, Georgia, and Florida, $1,200; of one super· intendent for the life-saving and life·boat stations on the coast of the Gulf of 

Mexico, $1,500; and of one on the coasts of Lakes Ontario and Erie, Sl,SOO. 

l\1r. DOUGHERTY. I offer the amendment which I send to the 

desk. 

The Clerk read as follows: 

Amend in line 113 by striking out 1 ,200" and inserting " $1,500." 

Mr. RANDALL. I reserve the point of order. 

Mr. DOUGHERTY. What is the point of order? 

Mr. RANDALL. Itisthatthe amendment changes existing law. 

Ur. DOUGHERTY. Mr. Chairman, in view of the great length of 

the sea coast of those States, and bemg so mew hat familiar with the sea- coast of Florida, knowing something of the duties of the superintendent , 

of the life-saving stations and the houses of refuge, I can see no reason why other superintendents who have shorter distances to trave1 and 

not so much labor to perform should receive a greater sum of money as compensation for their services than is accorded to the superintendent 

of the life-saving stations for the district of South Carolina, Georgia, 

and Florida. 

The gentleman from Pennsylvania has reserved the point of order. 

While I will not pretend to say what the action of this House will be, 

I think it is an injustice to that superintendent to require him to perform his arduous duties-and there are a number of wrecks occurring 

continually on that coast--it is an injustice to him to require him to 

perform those duties and to give him, in comparison with the salaries 

paid to the other superintendents of life-saving stations, what seems 

to me inadequate pay for the services required of him. I hope the 

amendment will prevail. 

Mr. RANDALL. These salaries, if I am correctly advi<:;ed, are fixed 

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by existing law; but in any event_ it is part of the administrative work 

of that branch of the Government, and should be left to the discretion 

of the officer in charge. I now have the law to sustain the point of 

order and send it to the Chair. It is the general Jaw reorganizing the 

Life-Saving Service. 

The CHAIRMAN. The law to which the gentleman refers will be 

read. 

The Clerk read as follows: 

For the seventh district, embracing the east-ern coast of Florida and the coast of Georgia. and South Carolina., Sl, 200 per annum. 

The CHAIRMAN. The Chair thinks the point of order is well taken. 

The Clerk read the following paragraph, under the head ''Engraving 

and Printing:" 

And the Secretary of the Treasury is hereafter authorized and required to issue silver certificates in denominations of one, two, and five dollars; and the 

silver certificates herein authorized sball be receivable, redeemable, and payable in like manner and for like purposes as is provided for silver certificates by the act of February 28, 1878, entitled "An act to authorize the coinage of the standard silver dollar, and to restore its legal-tender character;" and denominations 

of one, two, and five dollars may be issued in lieu of silver certificates of larger denominations in the Treasury, or in exchange therefor upon presentation by the holders; and to that extent said certificates of larger denominations shall 

be canceled and destroyed. 

Mr. RANDALL. I desire to state to the House that, with the exception of one word, this is the exact provision of the last appropriation 

act. There was some doubt whether that provision applied only to 

the moneys . appropriated by that act. The committee, therefore, 

thought best to recommend the re-enactment of that provision-which 

I think has been acceptable to the people of the United States in every 

way-changing the word "hereby" as in the existing law and which 

· controlled the act of last year, to the word '' hereafter,'' so that if there was any doubt as to the last law, whether it was continuous or not, 

this word " .hereafter" will make it plain and clear. But I was unwilling that these words should be changed, that "hereby" should be 

stricken out and " hereafter" inserted, without fully advising the 

House, as the committee do in their report on this bill, of this change. The Clerk read the following paragraph: 

Lighting of rivers: For establishing, supplying, and maintaining post-lights on the Hudson River, New York; Cape Fear River, North Carolina.; Savannah 

River, Georgia; Saint John's River, Florida; at the mouth of Red River, Louisiana; on the Mississippi, Missouri, Ohio, Tennessee, and Great Kanawha. Rivers; on the Columbia and Willamette Rivers, Oregon, $190,000. 

· :Mr. RANDALL. It will be observed that in this-paragraph relating 

to river lights the river Tennessee and the Great Kanawha River have 

been inserted. 

MESSAGE FROM THE PRESIDID.TT. 

The committee informally rose; and Mr. W ABNER, of Ohio, haVing 

taken the chair as Speaker pro tempore, a message from the President 

of the United States was communicated to the Honse by Mr. PRUDEN, 

one of his secretaries. 

SUNDRY CIVIL BILL. 

The Committee of the Whole resumed its session. 

The C~erk read the following paragraph: ~ 

Transportation of coin gold: For the transportation of gold coin from San 

Francisco to New York, $5,000. 

Mr. SYMES. I move to amend this paragraph by adding $10,000, 

making the a.mount $15,000, for the transportation of gold coin and 

bullion between the different assay offices and mints of the United 

States. 

The CHAIRMAN. The gentleman will send up his amendment in 

writing. 

1\Ir. SYMES. I will reduce it to writing after I have given some 

explanation of it. 

There has been in the appropriation bills for many years a paragraph 

appropriating several thousand dollars for the transportation of gold 

coin and bullion from one assay office or mint in the United States to 

another, the object of which is that when gold bullion is purchased, as it 

is required to be by the statute, at the different assay offices or mints in 

the West, it may be transported to San Francisco, New York, or Philadelphia, or wherever it is required, free of charge to the person who sells 

it to the Government. 

Under the system which amounts to the free eoinage of gold and 

after the establishment of assay offices and mints throughout theW est- ern country it is certainly just that the miner who takes his gold bar 

to the assay office in Denver, Colo., shall receive exactly the same price 

for it, without any discount, as the merchant or the bullion broker who 

may take a gold bar to the assay offices or mints in Philadelphia or New 

York. There has usually been an appropriation for that purpose. I see none in this bill. 

There is nothing in this bill, except $5,000, to be used for the transportation of gold coin from San Francisco to New York. Therefore I 

offer the amendment providing that that sum be made $15, 000; $10,000 

for the purpose of paying f01· the transportation of gold bullion or coin 

from one assay office or mint in the United States to another. 

Mr. RANDALL. Mr. Chairman, I reserve the point of order on the 

amendment--that part of it which relates to bullion. 

The CHAIRMAN. If the amendment be reduced to writing, the 

Chair will hear the gentleman from Pennsylvania on the point of order. 

Mr. SYMES. I will reduce the amendment to writing, Mr. chair- man. I think, however, that the chairman of the Committee on Appropriations understands it now. Mr. RANDALL. I understand that the paragraph in the bill is in 

accordance with the law as it now is, and that the modification proposed by the gentleman would be a change of existing law. As to the 

amount involved, I shall have something to say about it when we reach 

that part of th~ amendment. Perhaps I may say now that we gave 

$10,000 for the current year; the estimate is only $10,000 for the next 

year, and we are advised that the money already appropriated has not 

been expended. 

' The CHAIRMAN. Is the point of order insisted upon? 

Mr. RANDALL. Yes, sir. 

The CHAIRMAN. The Chair can not determine the point of order on a motion not in writing. The Chair dQes not know what the mo- tion is. 

Mr. SYMES. :Mr. Chairman, a friend of mine is reducing the motion 

to writing. In the mean time I desire to say, in reply to the chair- man of the Committee on Appropriations, that I do not understand that 

my amendment changes the law. It simply adds to the appropriation 

for the transportation of gold coin and bullion, and in every appropria~ 

tion bill passed by this House I think I may say (having examined 

the subject) the past ten years may be found a clause similar to this 

amendment. Is not that so, :M:r. Chairman? 

Mr. RANDALL. We are not transporters of bullion, and there is no law that I know of which perinits ·the Government of the United 

States to transport bullion in this way; This is for transportation from 

the assay offices to the mints. 

Mr. SYMES. To the mints; or, as the Treasury Department usually 

regulate the matter, to the assay office in New York. 

Mr. RANDALL. The Government is not a transporter of bullion 

at all except for its own special requirements. 

Mr. SYMES. I beg the gentleman's pardon, the Government is a transporter of bullion in this sense: that under the law which provides 

for-the free coinage of gold, the Government, for its convenience and the 

convenience of its citizens, establishes mints and assay offices in different parts of the country, and, to enforce that law, it has gold coin and 

currency for the purpose of paying for gold bullion wherever it is offered, whether it be at the mint in Carson City, Nev., or at the assay 

office in Denver, Colo., or at the assay office in New York city. 

Then the Government transfers that bullion to some mint for coinage, and it is the Government's duty, mark you, 1;<> pay the expense of 

the transfer. Yet, under a system characteristic of drawing distinctions between the assayofficesin the Eastern cities and the assay offices 

in the Western States and Territories, after they buy a miner's gold 

bar and pay him the free-coinage price for it, so to speak, then they 

keep out a percentage to pay the expense of transferring the bullion to 

the Mint at Philadelphia. 

Mr. RANDALL. Why not? 

:Mr. SYMES. .Under the existing law, as it has been construed, they 

have no right to do that; but if we do not provide the funds to "pay for 

that transportation, they may have some excuse for doing it. 

Mr. RANDALL. The Government of the United States wants bullion. The practice is that that bullion shall be delivered where the 

coinage is going to take place. Theproposition ofthe gentleman from 

Colorado [Mr. SYMES] would vary that practice and would make a Jaw 

which does not exist, providing that the owner of the bullion at the 

mine should have the right to receive the cost of transporta.tion to the 

assay office or the mint. Now, that is a course which we do not wish 

to enter upon. 

Mr. SYMES. If the gentleman will pardon me, I will say that the 

issue between us is this: Under the present law, the free-coinage law, 

and under the laws and the practice of the Treasury Department, 

which has esta.blished these different assay offices to carry out the 

free· coinage law, it is the right, under that law, of any citizen to go to 

the assay office in the city of Denver and demand for his gold bar as 

many gold dollars as there are 23-fu grains of standard gold in that 

bar; and he is entitled to receive those gold dollars without any discount whatever. 

The CHAIRMAN. The time of the gentleman from Colorado has 

expired. 

Mr. ADAMS, of illinois. :Mr. Chairman, I move to strike out; the 

last word, and I yield my time to the gentleman from Colorado. 

:rtfr. SYMES. I am obliged to the gentleman. Now, Mr. ChairmaiJ., 

it has been the practice for the last year or two-not a practice, for it 

is a violation of an old, well-established practice-but during the last 

year or two, for want of funds to pay the cost of transferring to the Mint 

at Philadelphia this bullion which has been bought or received under . 

the free-coinage law by the assayer at Denver, when he proceeds to pay 

a man for his bullion, under that law, he keeps back a certain percentage 

or discount, which he reckons at a rate sufficient to pay for the tl:ansfer of the bullion to the Mint at Philadelph!_a. 

That, 1\fr. ·Chairman, is in violation of the statute law of this coun- try, and I will defy any lawyer, or any gentleman. asintelligent as the 

chairman of the Committee on Appropriations, to contend oth~rwise. 

Therefore, I am not asking for a change of law; I am simply asking 
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for an appropriation of $10,000 to carry out the law, so that the freecoinage law of this country may be executed as it is written on the 

statute-book; so that an assay office of the United States shall not go 

into the business of discounting the bullion of a miner when he takes 

it at an office in theW est, and that the owner of the bnllion shall re- ceive for his gold bar as many standard dollars as there are 23/0 gr:llns 

of standard gold in it. I am, in fact, asking for the enforcement of 

the law, not for an addition or a change. 

Mr. WARNER, of Ohio. Mr. Chairman, I do not understand that 

by the law as it now exists the Government is bound to receive at im 

assay offices either gold or silver bullion at its coining value. Free 

coinage by the Government means coinage at the mints, not at the as- say offices. It is the duty of any one having gold bullion which he 

wishes to have coined to deliver it at the place of coinage. He may 

have it assayed at an assay office in order·to determine its weight and 

fineness, to determine the quantity of pure metal in the bar. But 

this bullion is coined only at the mints; and under the free-coinage 

law the metal is to be delivered by the owner at the mint, there to be 

certified and stamped-n'ot at the assay office. The Government is 

under no obligation, and has not assumed, to convey bullion from any 

and every assay office to its mints. The duty of delivering the }>ullion 

at the mint belongs to the owner of the bullion. In other words, free 

coinage does not include free transportation. 

Mr. SYMES. I move to amend the amendment by striking out the 

last word. I wish to say in reply to the gentleman from Ohio [M.r. 

WARNER]-

The CHAIRMAN. The pending question is one of order.. If the 

gentleman from Colorado [Mr. SYMES] can refer to any statute which 

he thinks authorizes the proposed amendment, the Chair will be glad 

to have that statute pointed out. The merits of the proposition are not at present under debate. _ · Mr. SYMES. I supposed that my brief on this subject was in my 

desk; but I do not find it. I did not suppose this question would come up to-day. I am satisfied, however, that under the statutes providing for the free coinage of gold the miner has the right to take his 

bullion to a United States assay office and demand the same number of 

gold dollars to which he would be entitled, for instance, at the mint 

in Philadelphia. 

Further than that, there is a statute to which I could readily turn if 

time were allowed, requiring the Treasurer of the United States to keep on deposit in these assay offices money to pay for this bullion at the freecoinage rate. 

Mr. RANDALL. If I am correctly advised, the law provides for the 

receipt ofthis bullion at mints only, not at the assay offices. I do not 

think the law authorizes the deposit of bullion in this way at an assay 

office. 

Mr. SYMES. It does; and I have cited the statutes which expressly so provide. 

Mr. RANDALL. I understand the gentleman to maintain-but I 

do not agree with him-that under the existing law the miner may take 

his bullion to :m assay office and there receive the same price for it that 

the Government would pay at any of its mints; so that the Government 

would be obliged to pay on this bullion the expense of transportation 

to Philadelphia, New Orleans, or wherever it might be coined. The 

Chair will no doubt be able to ascertain by reference to the statutes 

what is the provision of the law on this subject. 

The CHAIRMAN. The Chair has before him section 3519 of the 

Revised Statutes, which provides that- _ 

Any owner of gold bullion may deposit the same at any mint, to be formed 

into coin or bars for his benefit. 

In the absence of any statute to the contrary exhibited to the 

Chair, the Chair is disposed to hold that the amendment is out of 

order. · 

Mr. SY~iES. The Chair will allow me to say that there are other 

provisions of law-! can not turn to them at this moment-which 

modify the provision just read in the direction I have stated. I submit to the chairman of the Committee on Appropriations whether I 

may not have a vote upon this matter in the House; and by that time 

I shall be prepared to show the statute giving this right for which I 

contend. 

Mr. RANDALL. I do not know that there is any appropriation re- quired for this purpose at all, as no money was spent by the Government last year under this head; yet as a matter of precaution, so that 

there may be no difficulty in this respect, we have inserted an appropriation of $5,000. I cannot accede to the proposition of the gentle- man from Colorado. 

Mr. SYMES. The appropriation of $5,000 is confined to the transfer of gold coin from New York to Philadelphia. 

Mr. RANDALL. I think t~e law provides for the receipt of this 

bullion at mints alone, though I caniJot speak with absolute certainty. 

The CHAIRMAN. 'l'he Chair sustains the point of order. 

Mr. RANDALL. I ask that the words "coin gold" in the heading ' of this paragraph be transposed, so as to read ''gold coin." 

The CHAIRMAN. If there be no objection. that modification will 

be made. 

There was no objection. 

MESSAGE FROM THE SEN ATE. 

The committee rose informally; when a message from the Senate, by 

Mr. McCooK, its Secretary, annonilced that the Senate had passed 

without amendment the joint resolution (H. Res. 118) relative to cer- tain papers in the State Department by error. The message also announced that the Senate disagreed to the amendments of the House to the bill (S. 263) for the erection of a public 

building ·at Springfield, J\Iass., asked a conference with the House on the disagreeing votes of the two Houses, and bad appointed as con- ferees on the part of the Senate ~1r. MAHONE, Mr. DAWES, and Mr. 

CAMDEN. 

SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION BILL. - ' 

The Committee of the Whole House on the state of the Union re- sumed its session. 

The Clerk read as follows: 

Recoinage of gold and silver coins: For recoinage of gold and silver coins in 

the Treasury, to be expended under the direction of the Secretary of the Tress. ury, $20,000. 

Mr. LANHAM. I offer the amendment which I send to the desk. 

The Clerk read as follows: 

At the end of line 628 insert- Provid~d. That for a. period of six months after the passage hereof, United 

States trade-dollars, if not defaced, mutilated, or stamped, shall be received at their face value in payment of all dues to the United States, and shall not be 

again paid out or in any other manner issued. That the holder of any United 

States trade-dollars, during the period aforesaid, on presentation of the same at the office of the Treasurer or any assistant treasurer of the United States, if said 

coins be not defaced, mutilated, or stamped, may receive in exchange therefor a like amount and value, dollar for dollar, in standard silver dollars or in subsidiary coins (at the option of the holder) of the United States. That the tradedollars received by, paid to, or deposited with the Treasurer or any assistant treasurer or national depositary of the United States shall not be paid out or in any other manner issued, but, at the expense of the United States, shall be trans- mitted to the coinage mints and recoined into standard silver dollars. That all 

laws and parts of laws authorizing the coinage a~d issuance of United States 

trade-dollars are herebv repealed. . . ' 

Mr. MORRISON. I object to and raise the point of order on that 

amendment. • The CHAIRMAN. The Chair thinks the point of order is well taken. 

If the gentleman from Texas differs from the Chair, the Chair will hear 

him. 

lllr. LANHAM. I hope, Ur. Chairman, that the gentleman from 

Illinois will not insist on his point of order. I fear we may not have an opportunity to pass the bill reported from the Committee on Coinage, Weights, and Measures in any other way during this session. I 

think it is important it should be passed. It is a meritorious measure that has received the earnest consideration of the Committee on Coinage, Weights, and Measures. It has been reported by that committee 

without a dissenting voice. It is possible that the point of order may 

be well taken. In fact, I am assured by gentlemen who are better parliamentarians than myself that it is well taken, and I therefore can only ask the gentleman from Illinois not to insist upon it at this time, 

but to allow the amendment to come before the committee for action. 

Mr. MORRISON. I would much like to oblige the gentleman from 

Texas, but must insist on the point of order, as I am opposed to the 

proposition itself. _ M.r. LANHA.l'tf. Let me make a statement. - I have changed the 

second section of this bill in_order to obviate the objection raised by 

the gentleman from Illinois in the discussion of the conference report 

upon the surplus resolution at the last session of Congress, wherein he 

insisted, under the terms of the second section, that trade-dollars which were impaired might be received at the offices of the Treasury. I have 

changed that so as expressly to state that coins mutilated, defaced, or stamped should not be received. If that be the only objection the 

gentleman has to it, I have removed it by the change I have suggested. 

The CHAIRMAN. The point being insisted on, the Chair sustains 

it, and the amendment is ruled out. 

The Clerk read as follows: 

Pay of assistant custodians and janitors : For pay of assistant custodians and 

janitors, including all personal services in connection with all public buildings 

under control of the Treasury Department outside of the District of Columbia, 

$425,000; and the Secretary of the Treasury shall so apportion this sum as to prevent a deficiency therein. 

Mr. HENDERSON, of Iowa. I ask the attention of the chairman 

of the committee for some little light on this paragraph. I see that in 

1885 the appropriation for custodians and janitors of public buildings was $300,000. There was another large reduction in the appropriation 

for the preceding year. Resulting from that-reduction we find a deficiency of $94,478.29. Notwithstanding that warning, that $300,000 was insufficient for the public service, the House again appropriated 

only $300,000, and again a deficiency bill had to be brought in, amounting to $50,000. The result of this, notwithstanding the experience of 

two acts of legislation under this head forced a reduction of 30 per cent. in the working force of janitors and custodians on public buildings. 'rhe result of this freezing process of course became apparent. A large 

number of officers were removed, but subsequently the appropriation· 

was restored to $400,000, and now we are asked to appropriate an amount of $425,000. 

I would like the chairman of the Committee on Appropriations to 
196 CONGRESSIONAL REOORD-HOUSE. DECEMBER 15, 

give us a little light on this subject and to state whether there is any 

good explanation for it beyond the advantage of squeezmg the spol1ge 

and getting out of it everything they could of Republican custodians 

and janitors, and then going b::tek to Republican figures and allowing 

the Democratic boys to run the public buildings. If there is any 

other explanation I should like to hear it. 

Ur. RANDALL. I do not think there is any politics designed in 

this paragraph. I shouldlike to say, in my own citymost ofthoseare 

Democrats. 

.Mr. REED, of Maine. They had better luck than the rest. 

Mr. RANDALL. The gentleman from Iowa will notice this item 

has been somewhat increased. In 1884 it was $300,000. I am not 

able to say, without the books at hand, whether, as the gentleman 

says, there was a deficiency. Next year there was an expenditure of 

$395,000, and next year about $350,000. Last year we gave $400,000, 

and we are advised there will be no deficiency on that amount. This 

year we increased it to $425,000 for the same reason we increased the 

amount last year. This year there are additional public buildings, re- quiring janitors and custodians. 

I take it the increase i.s not political at all, but grows out of the 

necessity for a larger snm in ta.king care of an increased number of 

public buildings. And that is all I have to say, except that the Department asks for much more than we have given. 

Mr. HENDERSON, of Iowa. That is not as satisfactory as I would 

like to have it. It seems there was $94,000 of deficiency in that appropriation of 1885, and it will not be forgotten that from one end of the 

country to the other the Democratic press gave great credit to the Democratic House for their economy in cutting this down to the low standard to which it was reduced. Now, when the appropriations have 

reached a point higher than ever, I do not think an increase of public 

buildings will give an explanation which will rest in the mind even of our Democracy. Why not be frank and say the reduction made in 1885 

and 1886 was a political move on the political chess-board, and -not in 

the interest of economy, as alleged. 

Mr. RANDALL. The gentleman is mistaken, so far as the custo-

·dians of public buildings are concerned. I think be acted on the principle these men were Republicans. No charges were made against 

them; but they were naturally succeeded by Democrats. 

Mr. HENDERSON, of Iowa. Their predecessors went out when 

the sponge was squeezed, didn't they? 

Mr. RANDALL. Nobody was squeezed. 

Mr. HENDERSON, of Iowa. Does the gentleman not know the fact 

that 30 per cent. went out under the "reducing" process? 

Mr. RANDALL. That may be, but it was not on account of any 

political considerations. The committee appropriated what their in· 

vestigations led them to believe was necessary. 

Mr. HENDERSON, of Iowa. But there was a deficiency. I am not discussing how they got Republicans out and Democrats in, but am asking attention to the plain facts I have stated. 

Mr. RANDALL. And the Administration is in harmony, or will 

have to be in harmony, with the Committee on .Appropriations and 

the House of Representatives in its economy in that parti.calar. I 

hope this additional $25,000 will be more than sufficient, and that the 

same economy which the committee has recommended in this respect 

will be practiced in all of the public buildings. 

But, in answer to the gentleman's :first question, the additional 

$25,000 grows out of the increased expenditure necessitated by the care of new public buildings. 

Mr. HENDERSON, oflowa. The gentleman willobservethatdnring 

all of this reducing process in 1886 the estimates were $431,000, and in 

1887 they were $474,000; but notwithstanding the estimates, notwithstanding the deficiencies, you held it down to $300,000, until 30 per 

cent. of the officials were squeezed on t to make room for others to come in. 

Mr. RANDALL. I do not think that anybody was squeezed out. 

They were invited out politely. [Laughter and applause.] 

Mr. HENDERSON, of Iowa. That I admit; but it was doneunder 

the plea of economy, I believe. ·. Mr. RANDALL. No, sir; it was done for the good of the service. 

Mr. HENDERSON, of Iowa. .And under the plea that "we as Democrats want the offices.'' 

:Mr. REED, of Maine. It was averyshrewd expedient, then, for he 

has got credit for economy and got the Democratic janitors in office, too. 

[Laughter and applause.] A very shrewd thing; only equaled by his 

skillful answers to you. [Renewed laughter.] . The CHAIRMAN. The Clerk will read. 

The Clerk read as follows: 

Fue1,1ights, and water for public buildings: For fuel, lights, water, electriclight plants, including repairs thereto, in such buildings as ma y be designated by 

the Secretary of the '.rreasury, for electric-light wiring, and miscellaneous items 

required by the janitors and firemen in the proper care of the buildings, furniture, 

and heating apparatus, exclusive of personal services, for all public buildings, 

including marine hospitals, under the control of the 'l'reasury Department, inclusive of new buildings, $600,000. And the appropriation herein made for gas in any of the public buildings in the District of Columbia under the control of 

the Treasury Department shall include the rental or use of any gas-governor, gas-purifier, or other device for reducing the expenses of gas, when first ap- proved by the Secretary of the Treasury and ordered by him in writing: Pro- 11idcd, That no sum shall be paid for such rental or use of such gas-governor, 

gas-purifier, or device greater than the one-half part of the amount of money actually saved thereby. 

Mr. RANDALL. I am instructed by the Committee on Appropriations to move the following amendment: 

The Clerk read as follows: 

On page 29, in line 681, after the word "dollars," stl"ike out all that follows 

down to and including line 690. 

The amendment was agreed to. 

The Clerk read as follows: 

The President of the United States is hereby authorized, in case of threatened or actual epidemic of cholera or yellow fever, to use the unexpended balance of 

the sum appropriated therefor by the act approved August 4, 1886, in aid of 

State and local boards or otherwise, in his discretion, in preventing and sup- pressing the sprea-d of the same and for maintaining quarantine and maritime 

i_nspections at points of danger. 

Mr. DAVIS. I offer the amendment I send to the desk. 

The Clerk read as follows: 

Amend by adding at end of paragraph the words "The President is aut.horized to use of the same unexpended balance a sum not exceeding 510, 000 for the 

purpose of investigating the merits of the method practiced in Mexico and 

Brazil for preventing yellow fever by inoculation." 

:Mr. RANDALL. I reserve the point of order upon that. Mr. DAVIS. A bill providing for this investigation was introduced 

by the Committee on Commerce at the :first session of this Congress, . but the time allotted for its consideration did not permit its passage. 

The vote, however, upon incident:l.l questions connected therewith 

showed that it commended itself to a majority of the House. Afterwards it was modified; the appropriation was diminished, and in that 

form it received the unanimous support of the committee, and would 

doubtless have passed the House with almost entire unanimity if it 

could have been reached for consideration. • 

I do not desire to consume any of the time of the committee, as I 

understand this is not objected to by the chairman of the Committee on Appropriations, and I a.m satisfied that all will recognize the importance of such a proceeding. ' 

1\Ir. RANDALL. This is a change of the law. I think the discretion is alrea-dy vested in the President of the United States, and power 

conferred upon him to look into just such matters. I do not think 

that the Congress of the United States had better arbitrarily direct 

him in a case like this where he has full discretion a.lready. 

Mr. DAVIS. I understand the matter has been brought to the attention of the President since the last session of Congress, and be ex- pressly declined to act, because he did not think he had authority under 

the provisions of the law. I am satisfied that any member of the House 

who looks at it will take the same view of the case. 

Mr. RANDALL. I was called upon in this connection by the gentleman from Louisiana [Ur. BLANCHARD], and we conferred with ref- erence to it, examining the question quite thoroughly. If the gentle- man from Louisiana., who is now in his seat, will state what his opinion 

is in tha.t direction, as to the discretion of the President, I shall be glad. 

The CHAIRMAN. The Chair understood the gentlema.n to make 

the point of order that there was no law for this. 

Mr. RANDA.LL. No; but that this changed the existing law. I 

would be glad to hear the gentleman from Louisiana, as I have asked 

him to make a statement. 

Mr. BLANCHARD. ltfr. Chairman, I .had the same idea that my 

friend from Massachusetts has, that this paragraph in the bill, perhaps, 

should be amended so as to give the P1·esident authority, in his discretion, to send one or more medical officers of the Government to Brazil 

and Mexico to make an investigation of the prevention of tbe yellow 

fever by the process of inoculation. In looking into this matter, and 

after talking with the chairman of the Committee on Appropria.tio!ls, 

I sought an interview with Dr. Hamilton, of the l\Iarine-Hospital Service, in which he stated to me that an amendment of the law in this particular was not necessary, because now, under the wording of the law 

making an appropriation for an epidemic fund, that authority was already vested in the President, and that the President has at t.hls time 

the power, which bas been exercised on certain occasions in the past1 to detail officers of the medical service of the Government to make similar investigations as that contemplated by the amendment of my friend 

from Massachusetts. 

It was because of this statement to me by Dr. Hamilton tba.t I withdrew myintention of proposing an amendment similar to the one offered by the gentleman from Massachusetts . 1\Ir. RANDALL. I insist on the point of order. 

Mr. DAVIS. If I can be heard for a moment--

The CHAIR~IAN. The Chair will be glad to bear the gentleman on 

the point of order. 

l'lir. DAVIS. I wish to state the plain language of the provision 

only permits the President to ad in case of threatened or actual epidemic, and I beg to state to the House that that is the view of the President of the United States himself on the subject. 

The CHAIRMAN. If the Chair understands the gentleman f1·om 

Massachusetts correctly, he concedes that it would change the present 

law. If it uoes it is out of order. 
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The Clerk 1·en.d the following paragraph under tlie heading (' Department of the Interior-Public Buildings.'' 

That as soon as completed as provided for in the sundry civil net npproved 

August 4,1886, the Secretary of the Interior shall, within the fiscal ear 1888, cause to be removed to the Pension building, the General Land Office, Indian Office, Bureau of Education, office of Commissioner of Railroads, Bureau of La- bor, a.Jld the office of the agent for the payment of pensions in the District of 

Columbia, and office of the Geological Survey, and vacate the buildings rented 

for and now occupied by said offices and bureaus, or portions thereof: Prov ided, further, That the office of the Quartermaster-General shall, on or before the 31st 

day of January, 1887, be remoyed to rooms in the east wing of the new State, 

'Var,and Navy building. 

i,rr. RANDALL. I desire to correct an error in line 817;by the 

amendment which I send to the desk. 

The Clerk read as follows: 

Strike out "1887" where it occurs, and insert " 1888; " and shike out the word 

"east" and insert in lieu thereof the word " west." 

The amendment was agreed to. 

The qerk read the following paragraph: 

For the United States Geological Survey: For the Geological Survey, and the 

classification of the public lands, and examination of the geological structure, 

mineral resources, and products of the national domain, and to continue the 

preparaLion of a. geological map of the United Stat.es, including the pay of tem- porary employes in the field and office, and all other necessary expenses, to be 

expended under the direction of the Secretary of the Interior, $-100,000 . . 

Mr. HERBERT. I desire to nsk the chairman of the Committee on Appropriations why it is that these expenses of the Geological Survey 

are put down in a lump sum of $400,000. I notice that the expenses 

of the Coast aud Geodetic Survey are all itemized, running througJ:l 

thirteen pages; while the expenses of the Geological Survey, including 

this and the paragraphs which follow, cover only a page and a half. 

Here are $400,000 in a lump, sum for what, in my opinion, is a very 

extravagant bureau extravagantly conducted. Unless there is itemizing it is absolutely impossible, if it is desired to make an amendment, 

to know how to get at it. The law, as I understand, requires that 

the3e things shall be itemized. That law is enforced as against the 

Coast and Geodetic Survey. Why not enforce the same la.w as against 

the Geological Survey, and require its expenditures to be itemized? 

Mr. RANDALL. I should like to have that done. 

Mr. HERBERT. It seems to me that could be done as well with 

reference to one bureau as with reference to the other. 

Mr. RANDALL. I think so. Mr. IIERBERT. I hope the gentleman from Pennsylvania will insist on that hereafter. Meanwhile I will offer an runendment with a view ro accomplishing that purpose. 

Mr. RANDALL. I will listen to the gentleman's amendment. And 

I wish to say, in answer to the gentleman from Alabama, that I snp· 

posed the Commit tee on Appropriations had followed e\ery recommendation made by the commission, of which the gentleman from 

Alabama was a member, in connection with this bureau, especially in 

relation to printing and other matters. I do not now recollect-my 

memory may be at fault-but I do not remember to have read of any 

recommendation from that commission as to the subdivision of that 

$400,000. But if the gentleman will propose an amendment which 

looks to a subdivision of the items and the distinct payment of each 

officer of that bureau, I will hail it with pleasure. 

Mr. HERBERT. As I understand, there is a general bw now providing that these things shall be itemized. 

Mr. RANDALL. I do not know where that law is. 

Mr. HERBERT. It is the la.w of1885. 

Mr. RANDALL. It is a practice in the committee to require such 

itemizing, and a very good one. It ought to apply everywhere, and 

hence I approve the suggestion of the gentleman from Ala.bama. 

Mr. RYAN. I will suggest to the gentleman from Alabama that 

the law he refers to relates only to printing. 

Mr. HERBERT. I was under the impression there was such a law. 

I will offer now the amendment I have indicated. 

:Mr. RANDALL. All the itemizing made as to the Coast and Geodetic Survey was the result of years of struggle; and if anybody wants 

to undertake a like struggle with reference to the Geological Survey 

he will be very apt to have my co-operation. 

While the gentleman from Alabama is' preparing his amendment I 

want to say further that as regards the Coast Survey this system of itemizing was begun by the gentlemanfromNewYork [Mr. HiscocK] when 

chairman of the Committee on Appropriations, but was not entirely 

completed within the limit of his two years of service on that com- mittee. I followed him and took up his work in that particular; and 

only last year did we finally sueceed in the accomplishing of the object 

which he inaugurated. 

The CHAillMAN. The Chair would suggest that while the gentle- man from Alabama is preparing his amendment the Clerk may continue 

the reading of the bill. 

:Mr. RA...'N'DALL. I consent to that. 

Mr. CANNON, I object. 

The Clerk read the amendment proposed by Mr. HERBERT, as follows: 

Add at the end of line 936 the following: "And hereafter the estimates for all moneys wanted by the Geological Survey shall be itemized.'' · 

ltir. RA.....~DALL. I have no objection to that. 

The amendment was agreed to. 

The Clerk read as follows: 

For furnishing new building for conYict and hom icidal insane persons, $5,000. 

:M:r. THOUPSON. :Mr. Chairman, I offer the amendment which I 

send to the desk. 

The amendment was read, as follows: 

After the word" dollars," in line 985, insert" For cottag e a t cemetery, $900." 

Mr. RANDALL. I reserve the point of order on that amendment. 

Mr. THOMPSON. Mr. Chairman, I had occasion recently to visit 

the Government Hospital for the Insa.ne, where the insane of the Army 

and Navy, of the Marine Corps, of the revenue-cutter service, and of the 

national homes for disabled volunteer soldiers are treated. My business was to make inquiry about a soldier from my district who died 

there and was buried in the hospital cemetery. This cemetery is 

nearly a mile distant from the hospital, and there is no provision for 

its proper keeping or for the protection' of the soldier dead who lie 

buried there-no protection from the ghouls who desecrate the graves 

of the dead. This fact I know is a matter of much concern and distressful apprehensioiP to the friends and relatives of these dead. It seems to me that it is only necessary to bring the matter to the attention of the House in order to. have the proper provision made for the 

protection and safe-keeping of this cemetery. This amendment proposes to appropriate $900 for the erection of a cottage at the cemetery 

grounds as a residence for a man who shall take charge of those grounds, 

keep them in order, and protect them from unlawful intrusion. There 

i3 no one in charge there now, and no provision whatever for the care of 

the cemetery. 

I do not care to discuss the matter at any length. It is enough to 

state it. It seems to me it is a case that addresses itself to the House's sense of what is right aud decent. It seems to me that the services to 

the country of the soldiers who are buried in that cemetery entitle 

them to protection for their final resting-place, and I hope that this 

amendment will be adopted, in order that in future that cemetery may 

have the protection which it requires and which heretofore it has not 

had. 

?t1r. RANDALL. There is no authority of law for such an appropriation. 

The CHAffiMA.N. What does the gentleman from Ohio say to the 

point of order that there is no authority of law for the appropriation? 

Mr. THOMPSON. ·Do I understand the gentleman from Pennsylvania [Mr. RANDALL] to make that point of order now against this 

amendment? -

Mr. RANDALL. Yes, .sir. 

The CHAIRMAN. The point of order wns made at the beginning 

and reserved. · Mr. THOMPSON. I hope the point will not be insisted upon. 

Mr. RANDALL. I am sorry that I am not able to a.ccommodate the 

gentleman. 

The CHAillMAN. The point of order is sustained. · The Clerk read as follows: 

Benicia arsenal, Benicia, California: For new machinery for carpenter and 

machine shops, $3,000. 

Mr. McKENNA. Mr. Chairman, I desire to offer an amendment to 

that paragraph. 

The amendment was read, as follows: 

On line 1076 after the word "dollars,; insert" for construction, preservation• 

and repair of roads, walks, and fences, and preservation and repairs of public 

buildings, $10,000." 

Mr. McKENNA. Mr. Chairman, this amendment is an exact quotation from the Book of Estimates and the recommendation of the Secretary of War. That might be said to constitute some argument in 

its favor, to some minds it ought to constitute a conclusive argument 

in favor of the amendment, granting him to be competent and informed, 

and I assume that he is both. It seems to me like a business propoeition that we should preserve those things that are in e~istence from 

further decay, and certainly the amount of $10,000 recommended by 

the Secretary of War is within the principle of a government econom- ically administered. I hope, sir, the amendment will be adopted. 

Mr. RANDALL. The estimate for the preservation and repair of the 

arsenals is $50,000. We have the entire sum, and it is sufficient for 

all. The head of the ordnance bureau stated before the Committee on Appropriations that there need not be any separate provision made for 

repairs of arsenals, and he made that statement in the presence of the 

Secretary of War, who was before the committee at the same time. I 

hope the amendment will not prevail, and I do not ~hink that the 

Benicia arsenal will suffer at all in consequence of its being voted 

down. 

The question was taken, and there were-yeas 52, nays 75. 

So the amendment was rejected. 

he Clerk read as follows: 

Piccatiny powder de~t, Dover, N.J.: Fo1· erecting magazines and other nec- essary buildings, cleanmg, draining, and grading grounqs, making roads, building fences, and all expenses incident thereto, 835,000. 

Mr. PHELPS. Mr. Chairman, I move to amend by striking out the 
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words "thirty-five," in line 1085, and inserbing "one hundr~" so that the appropriation embraced in the paragraph just read will be 

$100,000 instead of $35,000. I offer this amendment in the interest, as I believe, of a true econ- omy. Its object is to complete at once the work in this P?wder depot 

which has been in progress for eight or ten years, and wh1ch ought to 

have been completed before this time. n is necessary work, and for 

these reasons: It is the only depot for the storage of powder which the 

Government has on the Atlantic coast far its navy-yards, its forts, ru;1d 

its n.rsenals. It has been ascertained that powder can not be stored in 

any of the forts upon the coast without a deterioration so rapid as to 

make such storage criminally extravagant. Experiments have established the fact, which is not disputed, that this deterioration is at the 

rate of 12 per cent. per annum, so that in eight years the powder stored 

in any of these places would, by the dampness of the atmosph~re, be 

rendered absolutely worthless. 

Recognizing this scientific truth, it has been the policy of the Government, a policy pursued with a fair amount of assiduity, to build 

within the 2, 000 acres which have been selected for this purpose in the 

vicinity of Dover, N. J., remote from the influence of sea air and where 

for local reasons the surrounding atmosphere is ery dry, an extensive 

collection of magazines, in which may be stored all the powder neces- sary for the Atlantic coast. The quantity of powder necessary to be 

stored here for the ordinary purposes of the Atlantic coast is estimated . at 50,000 barrels. Under the appropriations already made for this 

purpose there have been constructed during seven ~r eight years three 

of these magazines, and the appropriation proposed in this bill will 

enable the Government to complete the fourth. But, in order to store 

all the 50,000 barrels necessn.ry for ordinary purposes, it is important we should have a fifth magazine. While the appropriation of $35,000 

will complete the fourth, the appropriation of $100,000 which I propose will not only do that, bnt will enable the Government to construct a fifth. These five magazines will then be complete, and all the powder of the Government necessary for the Atlantic coast will be safelystored. As tllis work must be done, why should it not be done immediately, in 

order that the powder now scattered about in forts where it is deteri- orating at the rate I have stated may be gathered and preserved in 

this national depot? 

:Mr. RANDALL. While this amendment proposes to increase the 

appropriation to $100,000, the estimate of the War Departmentisonly 

$50,000. Besides, we have a statement from the Chief of Ordnance 

that the amount we gave ast year for this purpose was sufficient to 

complete one of these magazines. We propose to give the same amount 

this .yen.r, and thus add another magazine. I ·think the amendment 

ought not to prevail, as it proposes to expend double the amount of the 

estimate. 

Mr. PHELPS. Mr. ChaiTman, the point made by the chairman of 

the Committee on Appropriations [Mr. RANDALL], from the fact that 

the appropriation proposed in my amendment is not asked by the Departmentandis not em braced in the estimates, would seem to be sound; 

but the reason this sum is nof!_ asked by the Department and the rea- son it is not in the estimates is that the Department have for years 

urged just the reasons which I now urge, some years asking $175,000, 

some, $150,000, and some, $125,000 for this purpose, and have always 

found the gentleman from Pennsylvania unwilling to give any more than a sum sufficient to build a single magazine. On that account 

the officers of the Department have lost courage, and in this instance 

have simply asked what they thought he would be willing to grant. 

Mr. RANDALL. A rare instance of "loss of courage." 

Mr. PHELPS. They have never yielded their judgment that these 

magazines ought all to be built promptly, and that the necessary appropriation ought to be made. 

11'0.'. RANDALL. Mr. Chairman, I think I have uniformly co-operated with the gentleman from New Jersey in reference to this matter, 

and have always been willing, so far as my vote was concerned-the 

. only vote I could control- that enough money should be given each 

year to build a new magazine. This, I think, is all that even the Department has in view. I hope thegentleman will not press his amendment, for I am quite sure he will agree that the Department is better 

advised in this matter than either of us. Mr. PHELPS. I mu8t press the amendment in the interest of econ- omy; but I am not unwilling to admit that the chairman of the Committee on Appropriations, according to his light, has been uniformly 

kind and generous in his treatment of this matter. 

The question being. taken, the amendment of Mr. PHELPS was re- jected; there being-ayes 51, noes 76. 

ENROLLED BILL SIGNED. 

The committee rose informally; and the Speaker having resumed the 

chair, Mr. NEECEreported that the CommitteeonEnrolledBillshad ex- amined and found truly enrolled the bill (H. R. 1418) for the relief of 

Henry Martin; when the Speaker signed the same. 

INTERNATIOYAL COPYRIGHT. 

The SPEAKER also laid before the Honse the following mesSage 

from the President of the United States; which, with the accompanying papers, was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary, and or- dered to be printed: 

To the Senate and Houae of Representatives: 

I transmit herewith for your information n. report from the Secretary of State, 

inclosing the correspondence which has pas ed between the :pepart!Dent of ~tate 

and the Governments of Switzerland and France on the subJect of mternat10nal 

copyright since the date ?f m! message of July 9, 1S::Rov~~ 6.LE~1AN-o. 

EXECUTIVE MAloo"SION, 

Washington, December 15, 1886. , 

SUNDRY CIVIL APPROPRIATION :BILL. 

The. Committee of the Whole Honse on the state of the Union :resumed its session. 

The Clerk read as follows: 

For telegraphing reports, messages, and other meteoro!ogica.l information in 

connection with the observation and report of storms, $125, 000. 

Mr. SYMES. I move an amendment in line 1225 by striking out 

$125,000 and inserting in lieu thereof $138,000. 

Mr. Chairman, this increases the appropriation $13,000. It makes 

it $138,000. Thab is the amount of the present estimate for the next , 

year. 

It seems to be necessary, from all the information I can obtain, to 

increase this appropriation $13,000, to make it in accordance with the 

estimate of the Signal Service Bureau and to make available all the 

valuable information obtained by that bureau. 

It is a fact that over five thousand letters have been receive.d by the 

Signal Service Bureau during the past six months asking for reports in 

certain cities and towns thronghoutthe countrywheretheydo not now 

receive the same· it is a fact that now these Signal Service reports n.re received and made available at the expense of the Government in four 

hundl·ed cities and towns of the United States. It is a further fact 

that over one thousand cities and towns in the United States which are calling for these reports do not obtain them at the expense of the 

Government, bnt they are paid for by associations and municipal governments. I submit to this Honse whether or not, if we go to the expense of 

maintainincr the bureau, if we expend a few hundred thousand dollars 

a year in k~eping its machinery in n;totion and .advancing it in accord- ance with the progress and material prospenty of the country, we shall not increase this appropriation $13,000, so that this information 

may be made available. 

It will not be denied, sir, on this floor that the reports of the Signal 

Service civincr notice of approaching storms, and particularly of cold 

waves a~d bUzzards, save millions and mill~ons o(money. .As I say, 

this only asks for a pittance of $13,000, so this infor?l~tion may be made more completely available. I can show from statiStics and reports of 

that office this $13 000 is very much needed to make available the few 

hundred thonsand 1dollars expended in support of this bureau and to 

keep up the signal sta~ons. and for telegra_phing_ the information. It is 

asked that it may be distnbnted more w1dely m the country. 

M:r. RYAN. I do not think this amendment is necessary unless it is 

the disposition of the Honse to enlarg~ and expand this servic~. rr:he 

expenditure for this branch of the serviCe last year was somethmg like 

$7 000 less than the appropriation. The thing to be taken into con- sideration is that under the decision of the Department, where subsidized lines are used the cost is placed to the credit of those lines, as re- quired by law, which would make a difference of thirteen or fo~en 

thousand dollars, which added to the $7,000 would make somethmg 

like $20 000 less than last year was required of actual cash expenditure. y' on will see our reduction is made on that basis. 

l't1r. RANDALL. I quite agree with my colleague on the committee; 

there is no need to increase the appropriation. 

Mr. RYAN. I do not know bnt that this may be necessary in lhe 

interest of good service. It is not necessary, in my judgment, unless ·the disposition of the Honse is to enlarge and expand the service. 

Mr. SYMES. I demand a division . The committee divided, and there were-ayes 20, noes 65. 

So the amendment was disagreed to. 

The Clerk read as follows: 

For expenses of storm, cautionary, offshore, cold-wave, and other signals on the sea,la.ke, and Gulf coasts of the United ~ates, a_nd in the interior, announcing the probable approach and force of storms, mcloding the pay of observers, serv- ices of operators, lanterns, and flags, 310,000. 

Mr. BUCHANAN. I move in line 1230 to strike out "ten" and 

insert ''eleven 7' ; and I will simply say to the ~onse this inc~e::I.Ses the 

appropriation $1,000, ~d $1,00~ only. According to t~e es~ate for 

this service the money IS unperati vely needed and needed m the mterest 

of commerce. I understand there is no particular objection to the 

amendment, and I hope it will pass. . 

Mr. RYAN. The appropriation for that service in 1885 was $10,000. 

Last year it was $11,000 by a clerical mistake. For the current year 

it is $10,000, as it is in this bill. 

The committee divided; and there were-ayes 32, noes 64. 

Mr. BUCHANAN. No quorum. 

The Chairman appointed as tellers M:r. HOLMAN and Mr. BUCHAN AN. 

Mr. RANDALL. I hope the gentleman will withdraw the point of 

n,o quorum. 
1886. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-HOUSE. 199 

· Mr. BUCHANAN. Inasmuch as it is evident more than half the I repeat, sir, it often happens that the proper information, by signal 

members of the Honse are attending business elsewhere, I will with- stations at proper points, of the approach of a cold W8,ve will save the 

draw the point of no quorum. destruction of a great many train loads of valuable fruit. Also, sir, · So the amendment w~ disagreed to. the information of a cold wave or blizzard from the North to the range 

Mr. GALLINGER. I desire to make inquiry of the chairman of the and ranch cattle business will often save t-he destrnction of thousands 

committee whether there is anywhere in the Book of Estimates pro- of valuable cattle. I am asking now an appropriation of ·only $6,000 

vision for repairing the observatory on Mount Washington, as recom- additional for the purpose of protecting these great interests. · mended last year? We :find here the chairman of the Committee on Appropriations pre-. Mr. RANDALL. I do not remember that there was. The gentle- paring this bill for sixty millions of people. This particular brunch of man from·Kansas [Mr. RYAN] is perhaps better authority on the sig- the bill is a very important one; and I apprehend if you take the pernal service than I. I have no recollection of this matter. - centage of increase that I am asking at this time, it will not equal the 

Mr. RYAN. I think no such recommendation came to us. percentage of increase during the past year of population, wealth, and 

Mr. GALLINGER. I understand, Mr. Chairman, that no such rec- commerce throughout the portions of the country where it is sought to 

ommendation was made, and I have no amendment, therefore, to offer. establish this additional signal service. 

The Clerk read as follows: I do not envy a gentleman who lives on the Atlantic coast, whose For rent, hire of civilian employes, fnrniture, light, stationery, ice, stoves whole horizon of narrow-minaed statesmanship is bounded by a line 

and fixtures, repairs, rent of telephones, text-books, lumber, and other expenses which does not cross the Mississippi or 1\iissouri, or the plains of the 

of offices maintained as stations of observation outside of Washington, District Rocky Mountains, but stops when it gets out near the Mississippi River. of Columbia, $35,000. 

Mr. SYMES. I offer the amendment I send to the desk. I say to him, sir, that if he does not progress far enough in his prinThe Clerk read 38 follows: ciples of statesmanship to extend the same privileges to the people throughout the great northwestern COfi\ltry, the people of that country 

will see that men are made chairmen of Committees on Appropriations 

whose vision extends beyond the few signal offices of the Atlantic coast, 

which we have always supported, to give notification of approaching 

storms that may destroy commerce in the coasting trade. The trade 

that I am referring to is just as important a.s the coasting trade along 

the coast of the Atlantic Ocean; and I ask this House to give us this pittance that we may protect the interests of commerce throughout the 

eastern and western slopes of the Rocky Mountains. [Applause.] 

Amend lines 1244 and 124.5 by striking out 835,000 and inserting $4.0,000. 

1\Ir. SYMES. Jtfr. Chairman, this, as wijl be seen, increases the appropriation $5,000. It is applicable to that. branch of the Signal Service particularly which consists in th~ establishment of officP..s and the 

payment of employes, rent, &c. 

I am informed, liir, by estimates that have beet\ made by the Signal 

Office, in accordance with requests from associations of citizens in the 

Western country, that it would enable that office or bureau to establish 

five additional stations, one in the northeast corner of Colorado, or northwest corner of Kansas, for the benefit of the range and ranch cattle interests in that vicinity; also one at Falstaff, Ariz., for the same purpose; one at Rollins, in vVyomin,g Territory, for this purpose, and particnlar ly 

for the purpose of notifying those shipping large quantities of fruit from 

the Pacific coast to.the States on the eastern slope of the Rocky Mountains, and sometimes farther east, in the winter season of the approach 

of cold waves and freezing weather. 

It is a well-known fact to merchants dealing in fruit, and shipping 

from the Pacific coast and the Salt Lake valley towards the east, that by 

the failure to obtain information relative to the approach of a cold wave immense quantities of fruit are damaged by freezing. Millions 

of money will in the future be lost on such shipments of fruit, consisting sometimes of whole train-loads, unless there are three or four stations established on the Pacific railroad for the purpose of affording such 

information. " 

Then, too, it is in the interest of the men engaged in the cattle industry along the Rocky Mountains that I ask this mere pittance ol 

$5,000 to be added to the appropriation for the purpose of establishing 

these additional stations in the discretion of the Signal Bureau, and 

where the western communitieS may ask for them a.s being most nec- essary for their protection. 

The question was taken; and on a division there were-ayes 72, noes 81. 

So the amendment was rejected. 

Mr. SYMES. No quorum ha.s voted. 

The CHAIRMA • The Chair thinks it is too late to make the point 

of order after the result of the vote has been announced. 

Mr. SYMES. How can I tell what the vote is until the Chair an- nounces it? I stated that no quorum had voted as soon as I could. I was watching to make the point, and a.s soon as the Chairman had an- nounced the vote I rose to my feet and made the point. 

Mr. RANDALL. I trust the gentleman will not insist upon that 

point of order. 

Mr. SYMES. I think it is time we shonld insist upon something 

for the purpose of the public good. If we can not get an appropriation 

of$5,000 to save millions of dollars of loss, it is time to make a point 

of order or to take some steps to correct the evil. 

The CHAIRMAN. The Chair begs to state that he has no interest 

whatever in the matter, bnt simply announced the vote and then the 

result, and it was after that that the question of a quorum wa.s raised. 

The Chair thinks it is too late. 

Mr. SYMES. Then I have another amendment to offer to that paragraph. I move to amend lines 1244 and 1245 by iriserting in lieu of 

$35,000, $41,000 instead of $40,000, the last amendment. 

Now, I desire to say that we are expending hundreds of thousands of 

dollars for the purpose of maintaining a Signal Service Bureau. We 

have stations, or are supposed to have them, already established all over the American continent, where they will be available to utilize 

this information for the benefitofthecommerce of the country. There 

is a new branch of commerce which ha.s grown up within the last few 

years, and which now reaches an immense amount annually in the 

Western States. It is the shipment during all seasons of the year of 

millions of dollars' worth of :fine fruits from the shores of the Pacific to 

the eastern slopes of the Rocky Mountains and to the Wester.n States, 

when: we do not at the present time raise any fruit, comparatively speaking. 

Mr. RANDALL. I want to say, in reply to the gentleman from 

Nevada--

Several MEMnERS. Colorado. 

Mr. RANDALL. I want to say, in reply tothegentlemanfi-omCol· 

orado, that my vision in this bill has extended beyond the East; that 

there has been more appropriation of money for the Pacific coast than 

usual in this bill, and relatively more than for years past. 

Now, I can perform my duty here, I think, and understand it moderately well; and I do not propose to be driven or have any terrors ex- hibited here to frighten me from that line of duty; and certainly that 

will not be done by the words of snch demagoguery as have emanated 

from the gentleman from the Western State. 

1\Ir. SYMES. I move to strike out the last word. [Laughter.] 

Several MEMBERS. The word'' demagoguery.'' 

Jtlr. SYMES .. Mr. Chairman, I desire to say, in reply to the gentle- man from Pennsylvania, when he says that he does not propose to 

give way upon this matter after there has been what he calls demagogue talk, that he had better read in the dictionary the meaning of 

the term. I say that while I may not be a particular critic as to the 

meaning of such words, yet it seems to me that the definition of a demagogue, a.s given by the best political writers, applies to men who are pretended leaders of great parties, and who have, a.s their only 

stock in trade, the fad that they can go through an appropriation bill 

with a cheese-paring knife, and can cut down a few dollars here and a few dollars there, and make the whole bill $5,000,000 less than last 

year, and then have their strikers send it all over the country by telegraph that they have benefited the nation and the Democ:ratic party 

by a great big plea of economy. 

This is the cheapest character of statesmanship and demagoguery 

that ever led our country on to material prosperity. When the United 

States statutes provide that the salary of a certain officer at a certain 

office in the western country is $3,000, we find an appropriation in the 

gentleman's bills of $2,500 to pay a $3,ooo salary. And we :find the 

Supreme Court, sitting in the center of this Capitol, holding that that 

officer at the close of the year, after having received his $2,500, may sue in the CourtofClailllSandrecover theother$500and mnlct the United 

States in costs. I watched it herein the former session of this Congress; - and as I was a new member I did not feel like standing here and leading in the criticism of it. I propose henceforth to do so if necessary, 

and I propose to hold up before the country that great and grand character of statesmanship which proposes to appropriate less money to an officer than the statutes of the United States give him in the face of 

the decision of the Supreme Court that he may collect the balance and 

mnlct the United States in costs. If that is the statesmanship of the 

great leaders of the Democratic party, God save the country from such 

leadership. [Applause on the Republican side.] - Mr. RANDALL. The Democratic party will live, thrive, and con- trol in this country without regard to the gentleman's opinion a.s to 

its leadership. [Applause on the Democratic side.] I do not know 

of any salary changed in this bill at all. I only wanted to correct the 

gentleman's statement of facts. 

The CHAIRMAN. The Chair will treat the pro fm·ma amendment 

of the gentleman from Colorado as withdrawn. The question is on 

the amendment proposed by that gentleman. 

The committee divided; and there were-ayes 70, noes 89. 

Mr. SYMES. No quorum. 

The CHAIRMAN. A quorum not having voted, the Chair will ap-

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point as tellers the gentleman from Colorado [Mr. SYMES] and the 

gentleman from Pennsylvania. [Mr. RANDALL]. 

The committee again dinded; and the tellers reported-ayes 69, noes 96. 

So the amendment was not agreed to. , The Clerk read as follows: 

For pay of one brigadier-general and sixteen second lieutenants, $29,500; fm· 

longevity pay to officers of the Signal Corps, to be paid with current monthly pay, $4,680; for pay of not exceeding one hundred and fifty sergeants, thirty 

corporals, and two hundred and ninety privates, including payment due on discharge, $180,000; for mileage to all officers when traveling on Signal Service 

duty nnder orders, $5,000: PJ·ovidecl, That in disbursing this sum the maximum sum to be allowed and paid shall be 4 cents per mile, dismnce to be computed over the shortest usually traveled routes, and, in addition tpereto, the cost of 

transportation actually paid, exclusive of sleeping or pal'lor car fare; for com- mutation of quarters to commissioned officers at places where there are no public quarters, $5,500; in all, ~'223,630. And the Secretary of War is authorized, in 

his discretion, to detail for the service in the Signal Corps not to exceed five 

commissioned officers of the regular Army, to be exclusive of the second lieu- tenants of the Signal Corps authorized by law; and the regular Army officers 

herein aulborized to be detailed for the Signal Corps shall receive their pay and 

allowances from the appropriation for the support of the Army; and no money herein appropriated shall be used for pay and allowances of second lieutenants 

appointed or to be appointed from the sergeants of the Signal Corps, under the 

}Jrovisions of the act approved June 20, 1878, in excess of tl:e number of sixteen, or for t!Je pay and allowances of exceeding four bundred and seventy enlisted men of tlle Signal Corps. 

Mr. ADAMS, of Illinois. Mr. Chairman, I raise the point of order 

against the proviso beginning on line 1276 and extending down to the 

word ~' car fare," in line 1280. 

Mr. RANDALL. The point of order was made on the provision 

which is now in the law, when it was pending at the last session, and 

the Chair decided tha.t it was merely a limitation of the appropriation. 

The CHAIRMAN. The Chair is willing to hear the gentleman from 

Illinois [Mr. ADAMS] on the point of order if he desires; but it seems that this proviso does not change the law but simply limits this particular appropriation. Docs the gentleman desire to be heard upon the 

point? 

Mr. ADA!.-IS, of Illinois. I do not. . The CHAIRMAN. Then the point of order is overruled. 

Mr. BARKSDALE. Having been temporarily absent, I ask unan- imous consent to ret.nrn to line 1261, with the view of offering an 

amendment. 

The CHAIRMAN. The Chait· will allow the amendment to be read 

for information. the right of objection being reserved. 

The amendment was read, as follows: 

In line 12Gl strike out" 7" and insert "12 ;" so that the paragraph will read: 

"For observations, and expenses incidental theret-o; announcing the probable 

approach and severity of frosts ot· rains, for the benefit of the cotton region of 

the United States, $12,000." 

Mr. RANDALL. We have given the amount of the estimate, and 

I hope the amendment will not preva.iJ. 

The CHAIRM.AN. Is there objection to going back to consider the 

amendment offered by the gentleman from Mississippi? 

There was no objection. 

Mr. BARKSDALE. I trust that the chairman of the committee 

will hear me in relation to this amendment. 

Mr. RANDALL. Certainly I will hear the gentleman. 

Mr. BARKSDALE. Mr. Chairman, upon inquiry I have ascertained 

tha.t the amount proposed by the committee is the same which has been 

heretofore appropriated for the purposes specified in this clause; but I 

ha.ve ascertained, also, that it is entirely inadequate to the magnitude 

of the interests which are designed to be protected and promoted. Take 

my own State (Mississippi) for an example, which will illustrate the 

facts as to others. Permit me to read an extract from a letter from the 

Chief Signal Officer. In reply to a communication which I addressed 

to him I had the honor to receive the letter from which I will read: 

I would say that there is no doubt as to the advantage which would result to he local weather service of your State by the establishment of two full meteor- ological stations of this service within its limits, one at the capital and one at the southern extremity of the State, on the Gu If. Y obr SL'\te service is in co- operation with the Signal Service in the distribution of cold-wave warnings, and 

although of recent organization, I have received many statements showing th~ yalue of the work of the service to the people of the-stat~. I am not able to place these additional stations in your State, owing to the Iin:litcd number of men and the small appropriations. n will requir., probably $2,000 for each additional station, &c. 

Now, Mr. Chairman, the sum proposed by the committee is but 

$7,000 for the protection of the great cotton interests of the Southern 

States. I submit thatitisentirelyinadeqnate, and thatthesum which 

I propose, $12,000, is a mere bagatelle compared with the magnitude of 

the industry designed to be benefited. I will not consume the time of 

the committee further than to express the hope that my amendment will 

be adopted. 

Mr. RANDALL. The amount given in tbe bill is the amount of the 

estimate, and the amount which ha,s been given for several years past. 

I do not think it safe for us to exceed the amount of the estimates in 

the manner now proposed. I concur in all that the gentleman from 

Mississippi has said touching the importance of this service; but I do 

not concede the · propriety of appropriating o. greater amount than is 

asked by those who execute this part of the Government service. 

Mr. BUCHANAN. We were un.a.ble to hear distinctly on this side 

the statement just made by the chairman of the Committee on Appropriations [Ur. RAli.~ALL]. Does he state that the appropriation embraced in the bill is the amount of the estimate in full? 

Mr. RANDALL. It is. 

Mr. BARKSDALE. I have just read to the committee a communication from the Chief Signal Officer, stating that the amotmt which the 

bill proposes to appropriate is inadequate, and that this service is important. This is a sufficient answer to the point just made by the gentleman from Pennsylvania. 

Mr. RANDALL. I take it these estimates come from that same officer. 

Mr. BARKSDALE. The estimate is inadeqnate, though it may come from him. His communication to me settles that point. 

1\Ir. SYMES. 1\fr. Chairman, I did not hear all that was said by the 

gentleman from l\1ississi ppi [Mr. BARKSDALE] in support of this amendment, but I have no doubt he presented very clearly good reasons for 

its adoption. I think there is probably no interest which requires 

greater protection in this regard than the cotton interests of the Southern States. The Signal Service Bureau is frequently enabled to predict 

during the spring and early summer the approach of a frost or any storm 

which is likely to injure the crop. Hence the importance ofthis amendment. 

Sir, I am satisfied that when enough of these great interests of the 

West and South and other part;s of the country combine, the narrow- minded statesmanship that has kept out of this bill to-day two little 

amendment,s designed to protect great interests in this country will be 

voted down in this House. I hope the amendment of the gentleman 

from Mississippi will be adopted. 

I desire to add that when I refer to the '' leaders '' on this committee or any of the '' leaders '' on the other side of the House, I except 

from my references the distinguished, undisputed leader, my friend 'from ~lississippi [Mr. ALLEN]. [Laughter.] 

The question being taken on the amendment of Mr. BARKSD.A.U~, it 

was rejected, t-here being-ayes 19, noes 53.· 

The Clerk read as _follows: 

NATION.4.L CEMETERIES. 

For national cemeteries: For maintaining and improving national cemeteries, 

including fuel for superintendents of national cemeteries, pay of laborers and 

other employes, purchase of tools and materials, $100,000. For superintendents of national cemeteries: For pay of seventy-three super- intendents of national cemeteries, $60,000. 

~H. RANDALL. I understand some gentlemen here desire to get 

away from the House to-day a little earlier than usual. I do not wish 

to impose on the good nature of the House. We havemadesuch good 

progress in the consideration of this bill that I want to show my appreciation of the fact. I therefore move tha.t the committee do now rise. 

The motion was agreed to. · 

The committee accordingly rose; and Mr. RoGERS having taken the 

chair as Speaker pro tempore, M:r. HAMMOND reported that the Committee of tho Whole House on the state of the Union, having had un- der consideration the bill (H. R. 10072) making appropriations for the 

sundry civil expenses of the Government for the fiscal year ending June 

30, 1888, and for other purposes, had come to no resolution thereon. 

PRINTING AND BINDING DEFICIENCY. 

Mr. BURNES, from the Committee on Appropriations, reported a bill (H. R. 10239) making-an appropriation to snpP,lY a deficiency in 

the appropriation for public printing and binding for the fiscal year 

ending June 30, 1887, and for other purposes; which was rea{} a first 

and second time, referred to the Committee of the Whole Honse on the 

staie of the Union, and, with the accompanying report, ordered to be 

printed. 

Mr. BURNES. I desire to call attention to the fact that this is an "urgent deficiency" bill, and contains one item at least which re· quires that the bill become a law by next Saturday night. 

:n!PROVE31ENT OF FOX AND WISCONSIN RIVERS. 

Mr. RANDALL, from th~ Committ-ee on Appropriations, reported 

back with a favorable recommendation the following resolution: 

Resolved, That the Attorney-General is hereby directed to report to this House at his earliest convenience the amounts due to the several commiSsioners to ascertain flowage damages caused by the improvement of the Fox and Wiscon· 

sin Rivers, in the State of Wisconsin, arising under an act of Congress entitled "An act to aid in the improvement of the Fox and 'Visconsin Rivers, in tllo 

State ofWisconsin," approved :March 3,1875. 

The resolution was adopted. 

Mr. RANDALL moved to reconsider the vote by which the resolution was adopted; and also moved that the motion to reconsider be laid on the table. 

The latter motion was agreed to. 

Mr. RANDALL. I move that the House adjourn. 

The motion was agreed to; and accordingly (at 4 o'clock a.nu 50 minutes p. m.) the House adjourned. 

PETITIONS, ETC. 

The following petitions and papers were laid on the Clerk's desk, 

under the rule, and referred as follows: 

By Mr. B.A.RBOU~: Papers in the claim of Henry McWilliams, of 

Fairfax: County, Virginia-to the Committee on War Claims. 
1886. CONGRESSIONAL RECORD-SENATE. 201 

By Mr. CASWELL: Petition of the Women's Christian Temperance 

Union of Wisconsin, praying for the passage of the Blair educational 

bill-to tho Committee on Education. 

By Mr. CROXTON: Papers in the claim of Elizabeth Flippins, of 

Lancaster County, Virginia-to the Committee on War Claims. 

By Mr. A. C. DAVIDSON: Petition of the different grange organizations in the State of .Alabama, asking for the passage of the bill appropriating $1,500 to each State to establish experimental stationsto the Committee on Agriculture. 

By Mr. ELDREDGE: Petition of officers of Washtenaw County, 

Michigan, P~mological Society, praying for the passage of the bill (H. 

R. 2933)-to the same committee. 

By Mr. FLEEGER: Petition of gold and silver heaters of the United 

States for increase of duty on certain articles-to the Committee on -ways and Means. 

.Also, petition of members of A. G. Reed Post, No. 105, Department 

of Pennsylvania, Grand .Army of the Republic, for the passage of a bill 

to place the name of Samuel Miller, late private Company C, Eleventh 

Penns)'lvania Reserves, on the pension-rolls-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. 

By Mr. R. S. GREEN: Petition for an act reviving act of March 3, 

1857, providing for the erection of a United States building at Perth 

Amboy, N. J.-to the Committee on Public Buildings and Grounds. 

By Mr. GROSVENOR: Petition of gold and silver beaters of the 

United States for increase of duty on certain articles-to the Committee on Ways and Means. 

By Mr. GUENTHER: Petition of the Women's Christian Temper- ance Union of Wisconsin, praying for the passage of the Blair bill-to 

the Committee on Educ?.tion. 

By Mr. HUDD: Petition of Amy C. Kellogg, Eunice C. Bascom, 

Mary M. Eaton, and Maria S. Johnson, repres~nting the Women's 

Christian Temperance Union of Wisconsin, praying for the passage of 

the Blair bill-to the same committee. 

By Mr. MAYBURY: Petition of Rosa Bougy, of Detroit, Michigan, 

for relief-to the Committee on Claims. 

By ¥r. 1-.TEA.L: A bill making an appropriation of $2,500 to con- tinue improvements in the Hiwassee River, Tennessee-to the Committee on Rivers and Harbors. 

Also, a bill appropriating $10,000 to continue improvement$ in the 

Tennessee River above Chattanooga-to the same committee. 

Also, a bill appropriating $500~000 to continue improvements in the 

Tennessee River below Chattanoog~to the same committee. 

Also, a bill appropriating $5,000 to continue improvements in the 

Little Tennessee River-to the same committee. 

By l'lfr. O'HARA: Petition asking for the passage of the bill (H. R. 

8511)-to the Committee on Education. 

Also, petition of the Women's Christian Temperance Union of North 

Carolina, praying for the passage of the Blair educational bill-to the same committee. 

By Mr. CHARLES O'NEILL: Petition of James Marshall, for res- toration to the pension-roll-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. 

By Mr. RANDALL: Petition of gold and silver beaters of the United 

States, for increase of duty on certain articles-to the Committee on Ways and Means. 

By Ur. T. B. REED: Petition of Abbie R. Brown, to be placed on the pension-rolls-to the Committee on Invalid Pensions. 

By Mr. ROMEIS: Petition of Lydia Calhoun, asking to be restored 

to the pension-roll (to accompany the bill H. R. 10183)-to the same committee. -

By 1t1r. SNYDER: Petition of I.ewis H. Ellis, for special-act peusion-to the same committee. 

By Mr. STEELE: Petition of E. S. Whiting and 300 others, soldiers 

of the United States Army, asking that the act of February 25, 1885, be 

amended to read twenty-five instead of thirty ye.ars-to the Committee on Mill tary Affairs. 

By Mr. J. l'lf. TAYLOR: Papers in the claims of Richardson W. Henley, of Lauderdale County, and of James Rodgers and Isaac W. Drake, 

of Humphreys County, Tennessee-to the Committee on War Claims. 

By Mr. VANSCHAICK: Petition of the Women's Christian Temperance Union of Wisconsin, in favo1· of the Blair bill-to the Committee on Education. 

By Mr. WHITING: Petition of Alvan Barrus and others, in aid of 

the Hatch experiment bill-to the Committee on Agriculture. 

SENATE. 

THURSDAY, Decmnber 16, 1886. 

Prayer by the Chaplain, Rev. J. G. BUTLER, D. D. 

The Journal of yesterday's proceedings was read and approved. 

EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATIONS. 

The PRESIDENT pro tempore laid before the Senate a communication from the Secretary of the Treasury, transmitting the report of 

the ·jjuperintendent of the Coast and Geodetic Survey for the year 1886; 

which, with the accompanying report, was referred to the Committee on Printing. 

The PRESIDENT pro tempm·e. The Chair lays before the Senate a communication from the Secretary of the Interior transmitting in 

reply to a resolution of July 26, 1886, a report of the Commissioner 

of the General Land Office, relative to the progress made in satis:tying 

and adjusting the confirmed and unsatisfied private-land claims in 

Louisiana. As this communication is accompanied by maps and other 

extensive documents, if there be no objection, it will be referred to 

the Committee on Printing with a view to the question of printing. 

The communication from the Secretary of the Interior will be printed. 

PETITI~XS AND MEMORIALS. 

Mr. WILSON, of Iowa. I present resolutions in the nature of a petition from the George H. Strong Post No. 19, Grand .Army of the 

Republic, of Fairfield, J owa, and other papers, praying that a pension be 

granted to Mrs. M. E. Woods, of Fairfield, Iowa. I move that the res- olutions and papers be referred to the Committee on Pensions. 

The motion was agreed to. 

Mr. VEST. I present a memorial of the Catlin Tobacco Manufacturing Company and a number of other tobacco manufacturers of Saint 

Louis; Covington, Ky.; Cincinnati, Ohio; Middletown, Ohio; Dayton, 

Ohio; and also a memorial of a number of other manufacturers in Lou· 

isiana, Missouri; Quincy, Ill.; Dubuque, Iowa; Chicago, Ill.; Milwaukee, Wis.; Detroit, 1\Iich.; and Cleveland, Ohio, protesting against 

the passage of the bill (H. R. 8738) which provides that cut tobacco 

may be pnt up in bulk packages 'containing 10 pounds each, and also 

abolishes the 20, 40, and 60 pound packages of fine-cut chewing tobacco now in use. I move thn.t the memorials be referred to the Committee on Finance. 

The motion was agreed to. · / · 

Mr. RANSOM. I beg leave tO present memorials on the same.subj ect from tobacco manufacturers of New York, Philadelphia, Baltimore, 

Lynchburg, Durham, and the Eastern cities, presenting their objections 

to the passage of the bill {H. R. 8738). I move that the memorials be 

referred to the Committee on Finance. 

The motion was agreed to. 

Mr. EVARTS presented a m~morial of the board of supervisors of 

RiGhmond County, New York, remonstrating against the proposed 

establishment of a Government marine hospital on Staten Island, New 

York; which was referred to the Committee on Public Buildings and 

Grounds. 

11'Ir. EDMUNDS presented the petition of C. P. W. N. Shaw and 56 

other members of the Vermont State Grange, praying for the passage 

of the bill providing for the establishment of agricultural experiment· 

stations; which was referred to the Committee on Agriculture and For· 

estry. . PAY OF CONGRESSIO~AL IDIPLOYES. 

Mr. ALLISON. The Committee on Appropriations instruch me to 

report favorably and without amendment the joint resolution (H. Res. 

220) authorizing and directing the payment of the salaries of the offi· cera and employes of Congress for the month of December, 1886. I 

ask for its immediate consideration. . 1 

By unanimous consent the Senate, as in Committee of the Whole, 

proceeded to consider the joint resolution. It directs the Secretary of 

the Senate aud the Clerk of the House of Representatives to pay the 

officers and employes of the Senate and House of R~presentatiyes 

their respective salaries for the month of December, eighteen hundred 

and eighty-six, on the twentieth day of the month. 

The joint resolution was reported to the Senate without amendment, 

ordered to a third reading, read the third time, and passed. 

BILLS INTRODUCED. 

Mr. WILSON, of Iowa, introduced a bill (S. 2997) granting a pension 

to 1\Irs. M. E. Woods; which was read twice by its title, and, with the accompan~..ng papers, referred to the Committee on Pensions. 

Mr. CULLOM introduced a bill (S. 2998) to increase the pension of 

.Alonzo B. Chatfield; which was read twice by its title, and, with the 

accompanying papers, referred to the Committee on Pensions. 

Mr. CAMERON introduced a bill (S. 2999) to incorporate the Ameri· can Trust Company of the District of Columbia; which was read twice 

by its title, and referred to the Committee on· the District of Columbia. 

Mr. PUGH introduced 'a bill (S. 3000) fixing the salaries of the Com· 

missioner of Education and the Commissioner of Labor at $5,000 each 

per annum; which was reail twice by its title, and referred to the Com· 

mittee on Education and Labor. 

Mr. SPOONER introduced a bill (S. 3001) for the erection of a pub- li~uilding at Milwaukee, Wis. ; which was read twice by its title, and 

referred to the Committee on Public Buildings and Grounds. 

Mr. INGALLS introduced a bill (S. 3002) for the relief of William 

M. Hendrix; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the 

Committee on Pensions. 

Mr. PLUMB introduced a bill (S. 3003) concerning the transfer of the 

stock of railroad and other corporations engaged in interstate com- merce; which was read twice by its title, and referred to the select 

Committee on Interstate Commerce.