#### In re James WYATT, III, Debtor. William D. White, Trustee, Plaintiff, v. Wachovia Dealer Services, Inc., formerly known as WFS Financial, Inc., Defendant.

Bankruptcy No. 04-01245.

Adversary No. 04-10087.

United States Bankruptcy Court, District of Columbia.

Nov. 17, 2010.

*206Kevin R. McCarthy, William D. White, McCarthy *&*White, PLLC, McLean, VA, for Plaintiff.

William M. Rudow, Baltimore, MD, for Defendant.

*MEMORANDUM DECISION AND ORDER ADDRESSING CROSS-MOTIONS FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT*

S. MARTIN TEEL, JR., Bankruptcy Judge.

If a lienholder has no right to pursue payment of the debt secured by its lien as a personal obligation of the debtor, and the debtor pays the debt to avoid loss of the collateral, the result is this: the value of the lien has proven to be the amount of the payments made on account of that lien even though the lien would have fetched less had the collateral been liquidated. As a consequence, the plaintiff White, as the successor via his avoidance powers to the defendant Wachovia’s lien rights, is entitled to recover the postpetition payments the debtor Wyatt made on account of Wa-chovia’s lien, which secured payment of a monetary obligation that the intervention of bankruptcy barred Wachovia from enforcing as a personal liability of Wyatt.

I

The plaintiff William D. White, the trustee in the debtor Wyatt’s case under chapter 7 of the Bankruptcy Code (11 U.S.C.), commenced this adversary proceeding against WFS Financial Inc., now known as Wachovia Dealer Services, Inc. For ease of discussion, I will refer to WFS as Wa-chovia as though that had been its name all along.

By his complaint, White sought to set aside as a voidable transfer under 11 U.S.C. § 547(b) Wyatt’s grant of a security interest in his truck to Wachovia, to preserve the avoided security interest for the benefit of the estate, to recover all postpe-tition payments made by Wyatt to Wacho-via on account of the security interest, and to sell the vehicle free and clear of Wacho-via’s security interest and keep the sale proceeds as property of the estate. White does not seek to recover the prepetition payments made to Wachovia, presumably because the payments, even if made on account of an unsecured debt, would fit within the 11 U.S.C. § 547(c)(2) exception to the avoidability of the payments under § 547(b).

The parties filed cross-motions for summary judgment. The only real issue remaining is whether, as a matter of law, White is entitled to recover the postpetition payments Wyatt made to Wachovia prior to White’s selling the vehicle. The court will grant summary judgment in favor of White for the following reasons.

*207II

The facts not genuinely in dispute are as follows. On June 1, 2004, Wyatt purchased a motor vehicle, a Chevrolet Tahoe truck, from Pohanka Imports, Inc., and Wyatt took possession of the truck the same day. On June 1, 2004, Wyatt executed a Contract and Security Agreement with Pohanka, which provided purchase money financing for the truck and contained a grant of a purchase money security interest in the truck securing Wyatt’s obligation to pay amounts that were to come due under the contract. The Contract and Security Agreement was duly assigned to Wachovia, and the District of Columbia Certificate of Title reflects Wa-chovia as the lienholder. The Certificate of Title identifies the date of issuance as July 2, 2004. Under the Contract, Wyatt was required to make payments to Wacho-via of $572.98 per month beginning on July 16, 2004.

Wyatt filed for protection under chapter 7 of the Bankruptcy Code on August 16, 2004. The parties agree that under *McCarthy v. BMW Bank of North America,*509 F.3d 528 (D.C.Cir.2007), perfection of Wachovia’s security interest occurred upon the District of Columbia’s issuance of the certificate of title to the truck, and that the date of perfection was too late for the transfer of the lien to be exempt under 11 U.S.C. § 547(c)(3) from White’s § 547(b) avoidance powers. The resolution of this adversary proceeding was stayed pending the resolution of *BMW*first at the bankruptcy court level (where the *BMW*litigation began in 2004), then at the district court level, and finally at the court of appeals level.

The principal balance of the loan as of the petition date was $24,779.98. Pending the resolution of *BMW,*and until White sold the truck, Wyatt continued to tender postpetition payments to Wachovia totaling $22,508.38 exclusive of force-placed insurance payments, which Wachovia also received as an agent.1 As established by Wyatt’s affidavit, Wyatt made those post-petition payments to Wachovia with the intention of reducing the amount of debt secured by Wachovia’s lien on the truck.2

The allowed proofs of claim filed in this case exceed $15,000 and do not include any claim by Wachovia. Other than this cause of action, the bankruptcy estate has no non-exempt assets. Pursuant to an order entered on April 16, 2008, in the main case, White sold the truck to Wyatt free and clear of Wachovia’s lien, but with White to hold a lien securing Wyatt’s “future post-petition payments to the Trustee subject to the same contractual terms that originally existed between him and Wachovia.” Accordingly, White seeks the amounts due *208under the lien that were paid to Wachovia postpetition and to collect as well (pursuant to the terms of the sale) the remaining amounts that would have been due under Wachovia’s lien. At the hearing on the cross-motions for summary judgment, White indicated that he had already sold the truck to Wyatt. Because the parties agree that Wachovia’s security interest is avoidable, there was no dispute that the estate was entitled to retain the related sale proceeds free and clear of Wachovia’s security interest. White takes the position that he is entitled to recover the postpetition payments to Wachovia as proceeds of the avoided lien; Wachovia takes the position that, regardless of the value of the truck on the petition date, White is not entitled to recover any of the $22,508.38 in payments on the debt that stood at $24,779.98 on the petition date.3

Ill

White has established that Wyatt’s transfer to Wachovia of a security interest in the truck constitutes a transfer avoidable under 11 U.S.C. § 547(b),4 and it follows that the avoided lien is preserved for the benefit of the estate. 11 U.S.C. § 551. Although Wachovia’s answer to the complaint did not concede this issue, and Wa-chovia attempted to muddy the waters as to this issue in opposing White’s motion for summary judgment, Wachovia ultimately failed to present a genuine issue regarding the avoidability of the granting of the security interest.

A

Wachovia presented no evidence to rebut White’s showing of avoidability. At the hearing on the cross-motions for summary judgment, counsel for Wachovia conceded on at least two occasions that the granting of the security interest in Wyatt’s truck constituted an avoidable transfer within the meaning of 11 U.S.C. § 547(b). Indeed, the parties treated White’s asserted right to recover postpetition payments as the only remaining issue in this proceeding. In light of the briefing on the issue and the representations made by counsel at the hearing, the court treats the elements of an avoidable transfer as having been established by White and conceded by Wachovia, and the dispute as having been narrowed to a question of whether White is entitled to recover post-petition payments in light of the avoidable transfer.

At the conclusion of the hearing, however, when the court indicated that it would *209likely grant summary judgment in favor of White and permit his recovery of postpetition payments made by Wyatt to Wacho-via, counsel for Wachovia stated that Wa-chovia intended to pursue an equitable subrogation defense as to the avoidability of the lien. Although Wachovia asserted the defense in its answer to the complaint, Wachovia did not raise equitable subrogation as a defense in its opposition to White’s motion for summary judgment.

White’s motion sought an adjudication that he was entitled to recover the payments, which required a predicate finding that the lien was avoidable, and any issue of equitable subrogation ought to have been raised in opposition to the motion for summary judgment. For that reason, and for reasons stated at the hearing, Wacho-via has forfeited its equitable subrogation defense, and, in any event, it failed to plead a proper equitable subrogation defense.5

In arguing that Wachovia should nevertheless be permitted to advance its equitable subrogation defense, counsel for Wa-chovia notes that discovery was stayed pending the resolution of the parties’ cross-motions for summary judgment, and that Wachovia ought not be barred from pursuing its equitable subrogation defense until it has had a fair opportunity to take discovery. Had Wachovia deemed it necessary to take discovery to adequately assert defenses to White’s motion, however, it should have sought leave to do so rather than waiting until after the motion had been fully briefed and brought before the court for decision. Wachovia failed to file an affidavit under Fed.R.Civ.P. 56(f) presenting reasons why it was unable to present by affidavit facts essential to justifying its opposition to White’s motion for summary judgment.

B

By receiving the security interest, Wachovia received more than it would have received if the security interest had not been transferred and Wachovia had instead received payment on Wyatt’s indebtedness only to the extent provided by the Bankruptcy Code. This was established by the file in this bankruptcy case (namely, the timely proofs of claims on file; Wyatt’s schedules, executed under penalty of perjury, reflecting Wyatt’s non-exempt property; and White’s filing of only this adversary proceeding). The court takes judicial notice of that file in assaying White’s statement of material facts not in genuine dispute. In its papers (see Dkt. No. 33), Wachovia contends that there is a genuine dispute as to this issue, but Wa-*210chovia did not otherwise develop this argument. In his reply (Dkt. No. 34), White attached a declaration under penalty of perjury explaining what the court’s file already showed: that the allowed filed proofs of claim in this case exceed $15,000 and do not include any claim by Wachovia; that there are no non-exempt assets other than the anticipated proceeds of this cause of action; and that because the allowed filed proofs of claim in this case exceed $15,000, by receiving the security interest, Wachovia received more than it would have received if the security interest had not been transferred and Wachovia had instead received payment on Wyatt’s indebtedness only to the extent provided by the Code. White explains that he did not previously provide evidentiary support as to this element of a § 547 avoidance action because he considered it to be a reasonable inference drawn from the undisputed facts. Wachovia did not rebut White’s declaration, and did not otherwise pursue the issue at the hearing on the cross-motions.

IV

It having been established that White is entitled to avoid and preserve the lien for the benefit of the estate, the only question remaining is whether White is entitled to seek a monetary judgment from Wachovia for postpetition payments made by Wyatt to Wachovia. As this court observed in *McCarthy v. Bank of America (In re Howell),*Adv. Pro. No. 02-10017 (Bankr.D.D.C. Jan. 27, 2003):

> The avoided lien becomes property of the estate. 11 U.S.C. § 541(a)(7). Post-petition payments may be recovered as proceeds of the lien if the payments were intended by the debtor to reduce the amount of debt secured by the lien (as opposed to voluntary payments that the debtor would have made to the bank regardless of the status of its lien). 11 U.S.C. § 541(a)(6).

> In light of the automatic stay of § 362(a) and the discharge injunction of § 524(a), payments would be required to avoid enforcement of the creditor’s in rem claim, but would not be required to avoid enforcement of the creditor’s in personam claim. Presumably, a debt- or’s payments to a creditor with whom the schedules do not reveal any familial connection with the debtor, are made on account of the still extant in rem obligation. Consequently, any postpetition payments that have been paid by the debtor to the bank should be treated as payments of the in rem claim.

*Id.*at 7. Although this conclusion seems obvious, intervening decisions have reached a different conclusion, and, accordingly, I explain this conclusion at greater length below.

A

Even disregarding Wyatt’s affidavit, the only reasonable inference supported by the record in the bankruptcy case is that the postpetition payments were made on account of the lien. This stems from Wyatt’s and Wachovia’s rights under the Bankruptcy Code, and supports the legal conclusion that the postpetition payments to Wachovia were proceeds of its lien, and that White, having avoided the lien and preserved it for the benefit of the estate, is entitled to recover those payments as proceeds of the lien.

Wyatt commenced his bankruptcy ease on August 16, 2004. The meeting of creditors, at which Wyatt was required to appear and be examined under 11 U.S.C. § 343, was set for September 22, 2004. White determined that there might be assets available for distribution to creditors, and on October 7, 2004, less than two months after the case commenced, White filed a request for the clerk to issue notice *211of a deadline for filing claims in the case. On October 20, 2004, he filed an application to employ an attorney to assist him in pursuing an avoidance action against Wa-chovia as the holder of the lien on Wyatt’s truck. On October 28, 204, “White commenced this adversary proceeding against Wachovia.

Wachovia has been barred since the bankruptcy case commenced, and now is permanently barred, from acting to collect its claim against Wyatt as a personal obligation of Wyatt. The commencement of the bankruptcy case gave rise to an automatic stay under 11 U.S.C. § 362(a) which barred Wachovia’s taking any act to collect the debt.6 Wachovia never sought relief from the automatic stay to enforce its lien against Wyatt’s truck. Wachovia may or may not have been entitled to declare a default based on Wyatt’s having filed a bankruptcy case.7 Regardless, Wachovia undoubtedly felt that it would fare better if Wyatt continued to make payments, thereby relieving Wachovia of the costs of repossession and of the risk that a repossession sale might not pay the debt in full.8

Pursuant to 11 U.S.C. § 362(c)(2), the entry of Wyatt’s discharge under 11 U.S.C. § 727(a) on December 3, 2004, terminated the automatic stay with respect to acts against Wyatt, but it gave rise to an injunction under 11 U.S.C. § 524(a)(2) against any act to collect Wachovia’s claim as a personal liability of Wyatt. The discharge injunction did not bar Wachovia’s *in rem*right to enforce its lien against the truck. *Johnson v. Home State Bank,*501 U.S. 78, 84, 111 S.Ct. 2150, 115 L.Ed.2d 66 (1991).

The automatic stay still continued to bar Wachovia from repossessing the truck because it remained property of the estate. 11 U.S.C. § 362(c)(1). If Wyatt failed to make postpetition payments, that would have given Wachovia (or White upon avoiding Wachovia’s lien) the right to declare a monetary default incident to its *in rem*rights, and provided grounds for seeking relief from the automatic stay. Wyatt, who wished to retain the truck, as evidenced by his later purchase of the truck from White free and clear of Wachovia’s lien, continued to make postpetition payments, thereby avoiding a monetary default being declared by Wachovia as the lienholder. From Wyatt’s perspective, it did not matter who the lienholder was (either Wachovia or White): either way he wished to continue making payments in order that no right to declare a monetary default would arise and lead to repossession.

Under *Dewsnup v. Timm,*502 U.S. 410, 112 S.Ct. 773, 116 L.Ed.2d 903 (1992), a lien passes through a case under chapter 7 *212of the Bankruptcy Code unaffected, and this gives the lienholder all of its rights to enforce its lien for the full amount of the debt it secures, *regardless of the value of the collateral on the petition date.*A debtor is not permitted to “strip down” the lien of an undersecured lienholder to the value of the collateral as of the petition date. If the lienholder was undersecured on the petition date, but the collateral, such as a debtor’s home, increases in value over the years, the lienholder is able in the event of default to foreclose on the collateral and to apply all of the proceeds towards satisfaction of its claim even if the proceeds exceed the value of the collateral as of the petition date.

Even if the collateral does not increase in value, the retention under *Dewsnup*of a lien for the full amount of the debt has the consequence that if the debtor wishes to retain the collateral, and to prevent a lien-enforcement sale of the collateral, the lien-holder can insist that the debtor must pay the full amount of the debt in accordance with the payment obligations secured by its lien. In the case of a lien on a motor vehicle, this means that the rights preserved by *Dewsnup*include the lienholder’s right to insist on the debtor’s keeping payments current in order for the debtor to prevent the lienholder from repossessing the vehicle based on a default in payment. As the successor to Wachovia’s rights as a lienholder, White succeeds to that benefit of being a lienholder.

Whether a debtor deems the collateral to be worth the outlay of payments necessary to avoid repossession is up to the debtor, and a debtor may be willing to pay more than what the collateral would fetch upon a sale on the petition date. Accordingly, a lienholder may realize, by reason of its lien rights, more than the sale value of the collateral as of the petition date. That the debtor’s postpetition payments may have exceeded the petition date value of the collateral does not demonstrate that the debtor’s payments were not on account of the lien.

Under 11 U.S.C. § 524(f), a debtor may voluntarily repay a debt without reaffirming the debt, but the record suggests no reason why Wyatt would have been motivated to make voluntary payments to Wa-chovia of the debt aside from preventing a repossession of the truck based on a default in making payments. Wyatt had no obligation either during the pendency of the case or after receipt of his discharge to pay Wachovia other than pursuant to Wa-chovia’s *in rem*rights arising because it held a lien on the truck.9 Moreover, there is no familial relationship between Wyatt and Wachovia, a corporation, that would have led Wyatt voluntarily to pay Wacho-via other than by reason of Wachovia’s *in rem*rights as a lienholder.

There simply is no plausible reason why Wyatt would have continued to pay Wa-chovia postpetition had Wachovia had no lien. The postpetition payments were on account of the lien. To paraphrase White’s counsel’s observation at the oral argument of the motions, when you ask a debtor why she continued to make payments on a car after filing bankruptcy, she looks at you like you are the man in the *213moon: the reason is obvious, namely, to pay off the lien to keep the car.

B

Wachovia’s position would require this court to wear blinders and disregard the reality that once a bankruptcy intervenes and bars a creditor from pursuing collection of a debt as a personal liability of the debtor, that creditor’s lien securing payment of the debt can prompt payment of the full amount of the debt even though the collateral is worth far less than the amount of the debt. It is well known that in order to retain ownership of the collateral, a debtor may elect to pay such a debt in full because of the lien that remains enforceable against the collateral.

Upon Wachovia’s lien being avoided, the hen was preserved for the benefit of the estate pursuant to 11 U.S.C. § 551. By reason of § 551, White stepped by way of subrogation into the shoes of Wachovia with respect to its lien rights. *See Taubel-Scott-Kitzmiller Co. v. Fox,*264 U.S. 426, 436-37, 44 S.Ct. 396, 68 L.Ed. 770 (1924) (subrogation is the process by which the preservation of the lien was made available under a similar provision under the Bankruptcy Act providing for preservation of an avoided lien for the benefit of the estate). The avoided lien (and payments prompted by that lien, as proceeds of the lien) became property of the estate pursuant to 11 U.S.C. § 541(a), which provides in relevant part:

> The commencement of a case under section 301 ... of this title creates an estate. Such estate is comprised of all the following property, wherever located and by whomever held:

> (4) Any interest in property preserved for the benefit of ... the estate under section ... 551 of this title!; and]

> (6)Proceeds ... of ... property of the estate, except such as are earnings from services performed by an individual debtor after the commencement of the case.

[Emphasis added.] As of the petition date, White is deemed to have been in the shoes of Wachovia with respect to its *in rem*lien rights, and the lien and its proceeds are treated as property of the estate.

The lien rights to which White was subrogated included Wachovia’s rights as a lienholder pursuant to *Dewsnup*(which, as previously noted, held that, with statutory exceptions of no relevance here, a creditor’s lien remains enforceable after the intervention of a case under chapter 7 of the Bankruptcy Code for the full amount of the debt secured by the lien even if the debt exceeds the value of the collateral). Accordingly, White was subrogated to Wa-chovia’s right to enforce the lien postpetition for the full amount of the debt regardless of the value of the truck (including the right to insist on monthly payments being made if Wyatt was to avoid the truck being repossessed).

The payments on the lien were proceeds of the lien within the meaning of § 541(a)(6), and a lien follows and can be enforced against the proceeds. *Phelps v. United States,*421 U.S. 330, 334-35, 95 S.Ct. 1728, 44 L.Ed.2d 201 (1975) (citing *Sheppard v. Taylor,*30 U.S. 675, 5 Pet. 675, 710, 8 L.Ed. 269 (1831), and *Loeber v. Leininger,*175 Ill. 484, 51 N.E. 703 (1898)). The term “proceeds” in § 541(a)(6) ought to be construed in a fashion advancing the purposes of that provision. It follows that the question of whether payments on account of a lien ought to be treated as proceeds of the lien is a question of federal law regardless of the label that state law places on such payments. *See United**214*States v. National Bank of Commerce,*472 U.S. 713, 727, 105 S.Ct. 2919, 86 L.Ed.2d 565 (1985). *National Bank*dealt with the question of what is “property” of the taxpayer under the federal tax lien statute, 26 U.S.C. § 6321, holding that this was a question of federal law to be applied to rights a taxpayer had under state law regardless of the label state law placed on those rights. The reasoning of *National Bank*applies with equal force to the question of whether postpetition payments on account of an avoided lien constitute “proceeds” of property of the estate under 11 U.S.C. § 541(a)(6). The classification question is a matter of federal law applied to rights created by state law. The payments having been prompted by the lien, and the treatment of the payments as constituting proceeds being necessary to place the estate in the position it would enjoy had the lien been avoided on the first day of the case, it readily follows that the payments were “proceeds” of the lien within the meaning of § 541(a)(6).10

The result, which seems obvious, is that White is entitled to recover those proceeds from Wachovia. There are several approaches that support that conclusion. First, pursuant to his rights under non-bankruptcy law as the postpetition holder of the lien, White is entitled to recover the proceeds from Wachovia.

Second, White is entitled to recovery of the postpetition payments under 11 U.S.C. § 550(a): the proceeds of the lien (payments on account of the lien) are part and parcel of the avoided lien, and without recovery of those proceeds White would not obtain the full benefit of the lien that was avoided and preserved for the benefit of the estate, and, as explained later, Wa-chovia would obtain an unwarranted windfall in comparison to other holders of unsecured claims against the estate.

Third, such recovery is alternatively authorized pursuant to 11 U.S.C. § 542(a), the court’s authority to direct turnover to a trustee of the actual proceeds (as property of the estate) or “the value of such property.” *See Bohm v. Howard (In re Howard),*422 B.R. 568, 582 (Bankr.W.D.Pa.2009). The payments were prompted by the lien and constituted proceeds of the lien (and hence property of the estate under § 541(a)(6)) upon being received by Wachovia.11 Because Wacho-*215via is the initial holder of lien proceeds that are property of the estate, 11 U.S.C. § 549 (dealing with postpetition transfers of estate property) is inapplicable, and Wa-chovia must turn over the value of the proceeds to White pursuant to § 542(a).12

Even if Wyatt’s transfer of non-estate funds to Wachovia prompted by the lien and giving rise to proceeds of the lien could somehow be viewed as a postpetition transfer of estate property governed by 11 U.S.C. § 549, the funds would still be recoverable by White. No order authorized Wachovia to receive these proceeds of the lien, constituting property of the estate, and, accordingly, the transfers (if they could be viewed as transfers of property of the estate) would be avoidable under § 549, and recoverable by White under § 550(a). *See West v. Hus (In re Advanced Modular Power Systems, Inc.),*413 B.R. 643, 672-73 (Bankr.S.D.Tex.2009).

C

White is not engaging in a double recovery barred by 11 U.S.C. § 550(d). Instead, White’s entitlement to both hold the avoided lien to enforce payment of the remaining balance of the unpaid debt and to recover a judgment for the postpetition payments Wachovia received flows from the necessity of assuring that the estate receives the full benefit of the lien. This view is supported by the following observation made by the court in *McCarthy v. Financial Freedom Sr. Funding Corp. (In re Early),*2008 WL 2073917, at *5 (Bankr.D.D.C. May 12, 2008):

> That a trustee may invoke § 550 if § 551 alone would not make the trustee whole is illustrated by *Seaver v. Mortgage Elec. Registr. Sys., Inc. (In re Schwartz),*383 B.R. 119 (8th Cir. BAP 2008). There the debtor refinanced a prepetition mortgage postpetition through a loan from postpetition lenders. In the postpetition refinance, the holders of the prepetition mortgage received full payment of the obligation secured by that mortgage, and released the lien. The trustee avoided the pre-petition mortgage as a preference under § 547. Because the postpetition lenders’ mortgages still encumbered the property, the estate would not have been made whole by the mere avoidance of the prepetition lenders’ mortgage. Accordingly, it was appropriate to grant the trustee a monetary recovery under § 550(a) against the entities that had held the prepetition mortgage. *Id.*at 126-27.

White’s dual remedies are making the estate whole by assuring that the estate receives all of the value inherent in the hen, no different than when a trustee avoids the prepetition transfer of and recovers a bond and also recovers postpetition interest payments that were made on the bond.13

*216D

White’s avoidance of the lien was delayed because the court and the parties awaited the outcome of the *BMW*litigation in the bankruptcy court, then the district court, and finally the court of appeals. Until the trustee in *BMW*prevailed in the court of appeals, the prevailing interpretation of the law in this district (both at the bankruptcy court and district court level) was that Wachovia’s lien was *not*avoidable. Had the court of appeals decision been the prevailing interpretation of the law all along, White could have promptly avoided the lien and commenced receiving Wyatt’s payments on account of the lien. He ought not fare worse because he had to wait for the *BMW*case to reach the court of appeals and for the issuance of that court’s decision before he could avoid the lien. The amount a trustee recovers by reason of payments made on account of an avoided lien ought not depend on whether the trustee avoids the lien close to the petition date or at a much later date. In either case, the trustee is entitled to the payments arising postpetition by reason of the lien. To rule otherwise in this case would confer an unjustified windfall on Wachovia in its only remaining status of being an unsecured creditor, a benefit not enjoyed by other unsecured creditors.

The windfall is this. Upon the avoidance of the lien and the recovery of the postpetition payments, Wachovia will have a non-priority14 unsecured claim against the estate under 11 U.S.C. § 502(h) for the amount it was owed on the petition date, with the claim (like other such unsecured claims) not being allowed as a claim against the estate with respect to unma-tured interest as of the petition date. 11 U.S.C. § 502(b)(1). It will then share on a pro rata basis with other non-priority unsecured claims with respect to distributions from the estate. To permit it to retain the postpetition payments would accord it a priority to which it is not entitled, and bless its having collected postpetition interest that is not allowed on other non-priority claims.

E

The leading decision offering some support for Wachovia’s position, but which is distinguishable from this case, is *Morris v. St. John Nat. Bank (In Re Haberman),*516 F.3d 1207 (10th Cir.2008), *aff'g*347 B.R. 411 (10th Cir. BAP 2006), *aff'g*2004 WL 2035341 (Bankr.D.Kan. Apr 14, 2004). In *Haberman,*the Habermans, debtors in a case under chapter 7 of the Bankruptcy Code, owned a car, which was subject to a security interest in favor of a bank. On the petition date, the debt stood at $3,237.50, and the car’s fair market value was $2,000. The bankruptcy trustee pursued an adversary proceeding to avoid the bank’s lien under 11 U.S.C. § 544(a) and to preserve the lien for the benefit of the estate under 11 U.S.C. § 551, and eventually succeeded in that effort. Pending the outcome of that adversary proceeding, and pursuant to an agreement between the trustee and the bank, payments on the debt secured by the lien were made to the *217bank, with the trustee’s entitlement to the payments to be addressed later. Prior to the conclusion of the adversary proceeding, the Habermans paid the debt in full. The bankruptcy court then determined that the trustee was only entitled to recover the value of the car. The bankruptcy appellate panel and the court of appeals, in turn, affirmed that ruling. The two *Ha-berman*appellate decisions utterly fail to address what motivated the Habermans’ making the postpetition payments.15 The decisions, in other words, fail to address whether the payments were motivated by the right of the bank as a lienholder (a right to which the trustee succeeded) to enforce the lien — to repossess the car and sell it at auction — if the debt was not paid in full, or by a right of the bank to collect the debt despite the debtors’ bankruptcy case even if it had never possessed any lien rights.16 Finally, the decisions fail to address whether the payments were proceeds of the lien.

If that arose because the bankruptcy trustee in *Haberman*failed to raise these points or arose because the courts did not realize these points were an issue,17 this case is different. White *has*pressed these points, and the record establishes that the intervention of bankruptcy prevented Wa-chovia from further collecting the debt as a personal liability of Wyatt, that the payments *were*made only on account of the lien, and that the payments are thus proceeds of the lien. Accordingly, *Haberman*is distinguishable.

Nevertheless, *Haberman*sets forth dicta with which I must respectfully disagree. The court of appeals in *Haberman*acknowledged that a trustee who avoids a lien preserved for the benefit of the estate steps into a creditor’s shoes with respect to the avoided lien. 516 F.3d at 1210. It noted that a “lien” is defined by 11 U.S.C. § 101(37) to be a “charge against or interest in property to secure payment of a debt or performance of an obligation.” *Id.*at n. 4. The court of appeals then observed that a trustee’s rights pursuant to an avoided lien do not include the creditor’s right to receive contractual payments. That observation is only partly correct. When a trustee avoids a lien that lien does *not*enable the trustee to enforce the creditor’s contractual right to payments as a personal liability of the debtor, but it *does*permit the trustee to enforce the creditor’s right to receive contractual payments as an *in rem*obligation, including the right to *218insist on those payments being made as the price for the creditor’s not selling the collateral at auction sale.

It is the right to receive payments that is secured by the lien. If (as here) it is the lien that prompts payments, the trustee as the new holder of the lien is entitled to recover those payments as proceeds of the lien. Plainly a trustee who avoids a lien and then continues to accept monthly payments (made by the debtor to prevent the trustee’s declaring a default and selling the collateral as a lienholder) is entitled to those payments even if, upon the completion of those payments, the total of the payments the trustee received far exceeds the fair market value of the collateral on the petition date. Yet the reasoning of *Haberman*logically would bar the trustee’s retaining payments made pursuant to the lien that exceed the fair market value of the collateral on the petition date. That makes no sense.

Moreover, it ought not matter whether the payments prompted by the lien are made *after*or *before*the lien is avoided. As observed by the dissent in *Rubia, 257*B.R. at 329, without the point being questioned by the majority, the avoidance of a lien relates back to the filing date of the bankruptcy petition. Whether the payments are made after or before the lien is avoided, the payments (if they were prompted by the lien) are proceeds of the lien, and the trustee ought to be entitled to those proceeds of the lien.

The court of appeals in *Haberman*justified its reasoning regarding contractual rights versus lien rights by pointing to *Robinson v. Howard Bank (In re Kors),*819 F.2d 19, 23-24 (2d Cir.1987), a decision which, when placed in proper perspective, supports White. *Kors*held that although a trustee avoided a bank’s lien, the trustee’s avoidance powers did not extend to avoiding for the benefit of the estate the bank’s subordination agreement with other creditors who agreed to subordinate their liens to the bank’s lien. *Kors*held that “equipped with lien creditor status under § 544(a)(1) and subrogation power under § 551, the trustee may preserve those rights and powers that a lien creditor would have against the bankrupt under [nonbankruptcy] law,” and that “the trustee was vested only with the rights the Bank had against [the bankrupt],” which did not include the bank’s rights under the subordination agreement with other creditors. 819 F.2d at 24. Accordingly, *Kors*stands for the unremarkable proposition that the *in rem*rights of a trustee as a holder of an avoided lien are limited to enforcing performance of the underlying obligations whose performance the lien secures, the means of enforcement being the inherent threat of a foreclosure sale or, if that threat does not prompt performance, an actual foreclosure sale. The lesson of Kors-pertinent here is that so long as the lien remains upon the collateral, that lien remains enforceable pursuant to the lien- or’s *in rem*rights for whatever amount is owed pursuant to the *in personam*obligation whose payment it secures (including the right to sell the collateral if there is a default with respect to the *in rem*right to performance as a condition to the collateral not being sold). Without the lien securing performance of the payment obligations, it would be worthless.

So if the lien here had not been avoidable, Wachovia could have insisted that as the price of its not repossessing the truck, Wyatt would be required to make his post-petition monthly payments as set forth in the contract whose obligations were secured by the lien. If Wyatt made all of the required monthly payments, and they far exceeded the value of the collateral, Wachovia would not be precluded from retaining the payments even though it was *219barred by the bankruptcy case from collecting the note obligation as a personal liability of Wyatt.

The court of appeals in *Haberman*assumes that a trustee’s recovery pursuant to an avoided lien is limited by what the collateral would have fetched had a sale been made pursuant to the lien on the petition date. That disregards the reality that often a debtor does not default in making ear note payments postpetition, and ends up making payments *on account of the lien*worth far more than the value of the collateral. The court of appeals reasoned that:

> [H]ad the Habermans defaulted on their loan prior to bankruptcy, the only property the Bank could’ve claimed (assuming a perfected security interest) was the Trans Am, and then only up to the value of the loan. Given that the Trans Am happened to be worth less than the loan balance, the Bank would’ve been left with a mere unsecured (if perhaps actionable) contractual promise for the difference. So, while Congress provided in Section 551 that the Trustee may take for the estate the value of the Bank’s security interest in the Trans Am, the power to take “liens” and “transfers” does not also embrace a right to deprive the Bank of a separate contractual right to be repaid for its debt above and beyond the value of the security interest.

516 F.3d at 1211-1212. That observation, echoing a similar observation by the bankruptcy appellate panel,18 disregards two points.

First, the Habermans did *not*default on their loan payments: they continued (as did Wyatt here) to make the monthly payments postpetition, and the avoided lien had, by reason of the definition in 11 U.S.C. § 101(37), secured those payments of the debt, and continued as those payments were made to secure the payment of the remaining balance of the debt, without regard to the value of the collateral. Sure, if the Habermans *had*defaulted and the bank had sold the Trans Am at an auction sale, the trustee’s avoidance powers would not have included recovering anything other than the amount the bank realized on the auction sale, and the trustee would not have succeeded as well to the bank’s deficiency claim. But that is not what happened, and it does not demonstrate that when payments *are*made on account of a lien postpetition it is inappropriate to treat those payments as proceeds of the lien.

Second, the court of appeals assumed that the trustee’s recovery of postpetition payments in excess of the value of the collateral would represent proceeds of the bank’s *in personam*right to collect the debt as a personal obligation of the Haber-mans. The court, however, failed to explain how the bank, once bankruptcy intervened, could have any enforceable right to be repaid for the debt other than pursuant to its *in rem*rights as a lienholder, rights that obviously would prompt payments by the Habermans if they wished to retain the Trans Am and avoid a monetary default leading to an auction sale.19

*220The court of appeals in *Haberman*reasoned that *Dewsnup*does not apply to a trustee who has avoided a lien. This reasoning disregards the holding of *Taubel-Scott-Kitzmiller Co., Inc. v. Fox*that upon avoidance of a lien, a trustee steps by way of subrogation into the shoes of the lien-holder with respect to its hen rights. The reasoning also likely comes as a surprise to many a trustee who has avoided a lien and then has collected payments pursuant to that lien far in excess of the value of the collateral. Under the reasoning of *Haber-man,*such a trustee would not be entitled to retain the payments to the extent that they exceed the fair market value of the collateral on the petition date. That makes no sense. Under the controlling authority of *Taubel-Scottr-Kitzmiller Co., Inc. v. Fox,*the avoided lien, in the hands of the bankruptcy trustee, enjoys the same right it enjoyed in the hands of the prior lienholder to be enforced for the full amount of the debt regardless of the value of the collateral on the petition date.

One of the bases upon which the court of appeals in *Haberman*rested its conclusion that *Dewsnup*was inapplicable was that treating *Dewsnup*as conferring rights on a trustee holding an avoided lien would be inconsistent with pre-Code rules and practice. *Haberman,*516 F.3d at 1213-14. But the decisions it cited as evidence of pre-Code rules and practice did not deal with the issue of postpetition payments on an avoided lien and the treatment of those payments as proceeds. Indeed, to quote one of the decisions cited by *Haberman*in that regard, an avoidable lien or other transfer of property “includes the giving or conveying anything of value, — anything which has debt-paying or debt-securing power.” *Pirie v. Chicago Title & Trust Co.,*182 U.S. 438, 443, 21 S.Ct. 906, 45 L.Ed. 1171 (1901). An avoided lien’s “debt-paying or debt-securing power” includes the power to prompt payment of the debt secured by the lien (lest the collateral be sold upon default at an auction sale) even if the collateral was worth less on the petition date than the amount of the debt.

Indeed, *Haberman*overlooks an important goal of bankruptcy law enunciated in *Pirie:*“equality of distribution among [creditors] of the property of the bankrupt,” *Pirie,*182 U.S. at 449, 21 S.Ct. 906, which remains “the prime bankruptcy policy” under the Bankruptcy Code. *Union Bank v. Wolas,*502 U.S. 151, 161, 112 S.Ct. 527, 116 L.Ed.2d 514 (1991). Yet under the dicta in *Haberman,*a lender whose lien is avoided is allowed to retain postpetition payments prompted by the lien to the extent that they exceed the value of the collateral on the petition date. Because the lender is rendered the holder of an unsecured claim by reason of the avoidance of its lien, those retained postpetition payments necessarily are applied to the unsecured claim, whereas other creditors holding unsecured claims are not receiving any such postpetition payments (other than what they receive *pro rata*from the estate). That is a windfall condemned by the policy of equality of distribution.

*221For all of these reasons, I find *Haber-man*unpersuasive.20

F

Wachovia also relies on the Tenth Circuit bankruptcy appellate panel’s decision in the case of *Morris v. Vulcan Chemical Credit Union (In re Rubia),*257 B.R. 324 (10th Cir. BAP), *aff'd,*23 Fed. Appx. 968, 2001 WL 1580933 (10th Cir. Dec.12, 2001). Like *Haberman, Rubia*is distinguishable from this case. In *Rubia,*the debtor continued to make postpetition payments to the bank on a prepetition loan secured by the debtor’s vehicle. As of the petition date, the balance due on the loan was $10,440.00, and the debtor made postpetition payments to the creditor totaling $1,136.00. Pursuant to an agreed order between the creditor and the chapter 7 trustee, the trustee avoided and preserved the lien for the benefit of the estate. The trustee then filed a complaint seeking turnover of the postpetition payments made by the debtor to the bank. The bankruptcy court dismissed the complaint, concluding that the trustee was not entitled to recover the payments because they were made from the debtor’s postpetition earnings. On appeal, the bankruptcy appellate panel agreed with the bankruptcy court that the trustee could not recover the postpetition payments, but not because they were made from the debtor’s postpe-tition earnings, but rather because it viewed the trustee as having limited rights incident to the avoidance of a lien.

The panel in *Rubia*concluded that although the trustee preserved the lien for the benefit of the estate under § 551, that interest did not give the trustee the right to collect the related debt from the debtor postpetition. Rather, according to the *Ru-bia*panel, although the trustee’s avoidance of the lien prevented the creditor from looking to the vehicle to satisfy its claim, the creditor was nevertheless left with an unsecured claim against the debtor’s estate for the entire balance of the debt, and the postpetition payments from the debtor to the creditor simply reduced the amount of the creditor’s unsecured claim against the estate.

The majority decision in *Rubia*noted that if the debtor’s debt to the credit union had not been discharged, the debtor’s post-petition payments to the credit union were merely made towards satisfaction of that debt. 257 B.R. at 327. There thus appears to have been a failure of proof by the trustee as to why the debtor elected to treat this unsecured creditor differently *222than other unsecured creditors.21 This is made evident by the majority’s statement that the lien preserved under § 551 “[did] not give the Trustee the right to collect [the credit union’s claim] from the debtor postpetition. *See In re Closson,*100 B.R. 345 (Bankr.S.D.Ohio 1989).” The majority’s reliance on *Closson*is telling. In *Clos-son,*unlike here, the debtor had reaffirmed his debt with a credit union, and pursuant to the terms of the original contract with the debtor and the reaffirmation agreement, the credit union received postpetition payments.22 Accordingly, the *Rubia*majority can be viewed as holding that the trustee failed to prove that the postpetition payments had not been paid for some reason (as in *Closson)*other than the credit union’s lien rights.23 Indeed, the *Rubia*majority treated the payments to the credit union as reducing only the amount of the unsecured claim held by the credit union and as not reducing the amount of the trustee’s claim against the collateral. 257 B.R. at 328 n. 4.24 Here, in contrast, Wyatt clearly intended the payments to reduce the amount of the secured debt.

Accordingly, *Rubia*is distinguishable. Nevertheless, the majority opinion in *Ru-bia*contains statements that are fundamentally flawed. First, it necessarily holds that the payments to the credit union can not be treated as reducing the amount of the secured debt. 258 B.R. at 327-28, and 328 n. 4 (the postpetition payments did not reduce the amount of the *223trustee’s lien claim “but rather only reduce the amount of [the creditor’s] unsecured claim against the estate”). This raises the prospect that a debtor who makes payments to the creditor to reduce the amount owed under the lien will pay the full amount owed to the trustee (if a sale of the collateral fetches the full amount of the debt) and may, additionally, make payments to the creditor, thus paying more than the debt she was contractually obligated to pay. Congress did not likely intend such a result: the debtor was only liable to pay the debt once. It is no answer (as suggested by the *Rubia*majority) that it is the debtor, and not the trustee, who “may or may not have a cause of action against [the creditor] for any post-petition payments that he made.... ” 257 B.R. at 327. If the debtor intended the payments to reduce the secured claim, the postpetition payments to the secured creditor should be recoverable by the trustee, without the debtor being put to the burden of recovering the payments.

Second, the majority states that “[t]he trustee has no right to any payment made to [the credit union] on the debt, but rather he only has rights in the Ranger up to the amount of [the credit union’s claim] on the petition date.” 257 B.R. at 328 (footnote omitted).25 If, as seems implicit, this means that a trustee never can pursue postpetition payments made to a creditor on account of a lien that the trustee avoids, this is plainly wrong. It ignores the reality regarding the payment-inducing power of a lien (the power to induce payments lest the collateral be sold pursuant to enforcement of the lien), and the consequence that payments induced by the lien necessarily are proceeds of the lien under § 541(a)(6) and hence property of the estate. If the *Rubia*majority’s view is followed, it leads a court always to treat postpetition payments as not constituting proceeds of the lien under § 541(a)(6) (because, under *Rubia,*postpetition payments to the creditor must be treated as being on account of the contractual obligation and not on account of the underlying lien). *See Rubia,*257 B.R. at 328 n. 5.

Third, the majority rejected the dissent’s conclusion that payments on account of a lien are proceeds of the lien, reasoning that payments are not collection of collateral under the Uniform Commercial Code. *Id.*As explained earlier, such payments on account of a lien are “proceeds” of the lien within the meaning of § 541(a)(6) as a matter of *federal*law, and, in any event, would be treated as proceeds of the lien even under *state*law.

Finally, the majority reasoned “that unsecured creditors were not harmed and, in fact, were benefitted by the Postpetition Payments because [the credit union’s] unsecured debt has been reduced.” 257 B.R. at 329. This disregards the unjustified windfall (discussed earlier) that arises when a lienor is allowed to retain postpetition payments that are proceeds of the lien, and defeats a prime goal of bankruptcy, equality of distribution amongst creditors. Had the trustee recovered the post-petition payments, the credit union would have been able to file an unsecured claim against the estate under Fed. R. Bankr.P. 3002(c)(3), but it would share the disgorged payments only *pro rata*with the other creditors. The creditors in *Rubia*did not benefit from the trustee being denied recovery of the postpetition payments.

*224G

Wachovia also places reliance on *Nazar v. North Amer. Savings Bank FSB (In re Born), 357*B.R. 630 (10th Cir. BAP 2006), which limited a trustee’s recovery of post-petition payments (made to the lienor whose lien was avoided) to the value of the collateral on the petition date. *Bom*relied on the flawed reasoning of the *Haberman*and *Rubia*decisions, and, accordingly, it is equally unpersuasive.

Y

Whatever postpetition payments a trustee is entitled to recover as proceeds of a lien, the trustee would not obtain a judgment for those payments until well after the payments were made. Accordingly, a trustee additionally should recover prejudgment interest on each recoverable payment from the date of the payment. *See Webster v. Harris Corp. (In re NETtel Corp., Inc.),*327 B.R. 8, 13 n. 8 (Bankr.D.D.C.2005).

VI

In accordance with the foregoing, it is

ORDERED that White’s motion for summary judgment is GRANTED, and Wachovia’s lien is avoided and preserved for the benefit of the estate. It is further

ORDERED that a judgment will be awarded in favor of White against Wacho-via for all postpetition payments received by it from Wyatt on the debt secured by the avoided lien, plus prejudgment interest as to each postpetition payment to be calculated from the date each payment was received, at the rate dictated by *NETtel,*327 B.R. at 13 n. 8, or prejudgment interest at a lower rate utilized as a matter of computational convenience, or prejudgment interest as agreed by the parties. It is further

ORDERED that White shall file a proposed judgment within 21 days after entry of this order, and Wachovia may file an opposition to the proposed judgment’s calculation of interest within 21 days after filing of the proposed judgment.

1

. Even though the payments were only $2,271.60 less than the principal balance of the loan as of the petition date, the payments included interest, and, accordingly, the outstanding balance was not reduced to $2,271.60. For example, on December 1, 2007, the principal balance owed on the truck loan was $10,781.80.

2

. Wyatt's affidavit was offered in support of White's reply brief (Dkt. No. 34). In light of White's failure to include the affidavit with his original summary judgment motion, counsel for Wachovia initially argued at the hearing on the cross-motions for summary judgment that Wachovia ought to have an opportunity to depose Wyatt to ascertain if Wyatt did, in fact, intend for postpetition payments to reduce the debt secured by the lien, as stated in the affidavit. Following a discussion of whether such a deposition was likely to yield contradictory testimony from Wyatt, Wachovia ultimately elected not to depose Wyatt. Counsel for Wachovia did, however, assert a relevance objection to the affidavit, raising the contention (which this decision rejects) that as a matter of law White is not entitled to recover the payments regardless of why Wyatt made the payments. That objection is overruled.

3

. The parties have presented no evidence regarding the value of the truck on the petition date (less than three months after Wyatt purchased the truck). White represents that Wyatt made a $5,000 downpayment on the truck. If so, it would appear that the truck had substantial value on the petition date, but I will assume in Wachovia’s favor (without deciding) that the truck was worth less than the debt on the petition date.

4

. Section 547(b) of 11 U.S.C. provides that: the trustee may avoid any transfer of an interest of the debtor in property—

> (1) to or for the benefit of a creditor;

> (2) for or on account of an antecedent debt owed by the debtor before such transfer was made;

> (3) made while the debtor was insolvent;

> (4) made—

> (A) on or within 90 days before the date of the filing of the petition; or,

> (B) between ninety days and one year before the date of the filing of the petition, if such creditor at the time of such transfer was an insider; and

> (5) that enables such creditor to receive more than such creditor would receive if—

> (A) the case were a case under chapter 7 of this title;

> (B) the transfer had not been made; and

> (C) such creditor received payment of such debt to the extent provided by the provisions of this title.

5

. What Wachovia's answer pled in this regard was that it "is entitled to be placed in the shoes of the prior lienholder under the doctrine of equitable subrogation.” This sort of conclusory allegation does not pass pleading standards. The only prior lienholder Wacho-via has identified is Pohanka. But Pohanka held the same lien that Wachovia holds: it would fare no better than Wachovia with respect to the avoidability of the lien. At the hearing on the motions, Wachovia suggested that Pohanka may have had floor financing in place such that there was a lien on Pohanka’s ownership of the truck prior to Pohanka's selling the truck to Wyatt. Equitable subro-gation would not apply to permit Wachovia to step into the shoes of that earlier lienholder as that lienholder never had a lien on the debtor’s ownership of the truck. If Pohanka used Wyatt's payment to it to pay off the lien against Pohanka's ownership of the truck, that would not constitute a refinancing of the lien against even *Pohanka’s ownership*of the truck: Pohanka parted with ownership of the truck upon selling it to Wyatt. As against creditors of Wyatt, the lien on Pohanka’s pri- or ownership of the truck is irrelevant. Po-hanka's lien (which was assigned to Wacho-via) ran against *Wyatt’s ownership*of the truck against which ownership there was no prior lien, and accordingly there is no earlier lien on such ownership to which Pohanka (or Wa-chovia as Pohanka’s successor) could be sub-rogated.

6

. The amendments to the Bankruptcy Code made in 2005 did not apply to this case, which was commenced in 2004. Accordingly, 11 U.S.C. § 521(a)(6), a provision added by those amendments, did not apply in this case. Even if that provision had applied, and had resulted in lifting the automatic stay to permit Wachovia to enforce its lien, it would not have authorized Wachovia to collect the debt as a personal obligation of Wyatt. The only collection would have been pursuant to Wachovia’s *in rem*lien rights.

7

. *See In re Brown,*2009 WL 150630, at *2 n. 3 (Bankr.D.D.C. Jan.21, 2009).

8

.Moreover, Wachovia was the subject of White's avoidance action soon after the bankruptcy case commenced, and probably recognized that White would have grounds to oppose a lifting of the automatic stay. White could have opposed a motion for relief from the automatic stay by arguing that repossession would adversely affect White who, upon avoiding the lien, would fare better by looking to Wyatt’s postpetition payments instead of the proceeds of a repossession sale.

9

. Wachovia does not contend that the debt was procured by fraud or was otherwise non-dischargeable under 11 U.S.C. § 523. In any event, the time for Wachovia to file a complaint regarding nondischargeability under 11 U.S.C. § 523(c) and Fed. R. Bankr.P. 4007(b) expired on November 21, 2004. After that date, Fed. R. Bankr.P. 4007(c) barred Wacho-via’s obtaining an extension of the deadline. Moreover, the time to reaffirm the debt (in order to obligate Wyatt to repay the debt to Wachovia despite Wyatt’s discharge) expired under 11 U.S.C. § 524(c)(1) on December 3, 2004, when Wyatt received his discharge.

10

. Even as a matter of state law labels, the payments on account of the lien were "proceeds.” The District of Columbia has adopted the Uniform Commercial Code, which provides that “[p]roceeds includes whatever is received upon the sale, exchange, collection, or other disposition of collateral or proceeds,” D.C.Code § 28:9-306, and I conclude that the term “collection” as it is used in D.C.Code § 28:9-306 is reasonably construed to include payment or liquidation of a secured obligation. As stated by the dissent in *Morris v. Vulcan Chemical Credit Union (In re Rubia),*257 B.R. 324, 330 (10th Cir. BAP), aff'd, 23 Fed. Appx. 968, 2001 WL 1580933 (10th Cir. Dec.12, 2001), in construing an identical provision under Kansas law:

> [T]he term "collection” in the context of a debt or claim may be defined as "payment or liquidation of it.” *In re Hastie, 2*F.3d 1042, 1045 (10th Cir.1993).

Thus, to the extent Wyatt's payments to the truck lender were intended to reduce the value of the lien secured by the truck, those payments constitute proceeds of the avoided lien under the District of Columbia definition of "proceeds” and are property of the estate under § 541(a)(6) even if state law definitions of "proceeds” apply to that term in § 541(a)(6).

11

. It matters not whether the proceeds of the lien received by Wachovia are still in its possession, as White would still be entitled under § 542(a) to recover "the value of such property.” *See Beaman v. Vandeventer Black, LLP (In re Shearin),*224 F.3d 353, 356 (4th Cir.2000); *Boyer v. Carlton, Fields, Ward, Emmanuel, Smith & Cutler, P.A. (In re USA Diversified Prods., Inc.),*100 F.3d 53, 55-56 (7th Cir.1996); *Bailey v. Suhar (In re Bailey),*380 B.R. 486, 493 (6th Cir. BAP 2008); *In re**215*Fleming,*424 B.R. 795, 801-805 (Bankr. W.D.Mich.2010). *But see Brown v. Pyatt (In re Pyatt),*486 F.3d 423 (8th Cir.2007).

12

. Wyatt’s postpetition earnings (non-estate property) may have been used to make the payments, but White has not contended that those earnings (in Wyatt's hands) were property of the estate. Accordingly, this is not a claim that rests on avoiding a transfer of estate funds from a debtor, and instead is a case of the payments becoming proceeds of the avoided lien, and property of the estate, upon their receipt by Wachovia as payments on the *in rem*obligation.

13

. As observed in 2 David G. Epstein, Steve H. Nickles & James J. White, *Bankruptcy*§ 680, at 206 (1992):

> In some cases, ... nullifying a transfer and automatically including the avoided interest within the estate is not a complete remedy. The transferee ... may effectively control the property despite the avoidance and consequent negation of her legal claim to it. In [this] and other circumstances in which *216the estate cannot easily or fully realize the value of the avoided interest, the trustee’s further remedy is recovery, under section 550, from transferees and people who bene-fitted from the avoided transfer.

If White is not permitted to recover the post-petition payments Wachovia received only by reason of the lien, Wachovia will have been the beneficiary of the avoided lien to the extent of those payments, and the estate will not have fully realized the value of the avoided lien (which necessarily includes the value of those payments prompted by the lien).

14

. Certain unsecured claims are accorded priority by 11 U.S.C. § 507 ahead of other unsecured claims that do not enjoy any such priority.

15

. They fail, for example, to address the issue of whether the debt remained a debt that the bank could collect from the Habermans despite the intervention of bankruptcy, namely, whether the debt was nondischargeable as to either debtor, whether the Habermans each received a discharge, and whether the debt was reaffirmed.

16

. If this stemmed from a failure of the trustee to present evidence as to the issue of motivation, that failure would not be surprising. An examination of the bankruptcy court's file reveals that the bankruptcy court had entered an order, which provided:

> In the event the trustee is successful in avoiding the lien of defendant Bank in the vehicle, all payments made post-petition will become property of the estate and the Bank will turnover [sic] the same to the trustee. If the trustee is not successful, the same will be retained by the secured creditor.

The trustee understandably could have thought that this mooted the necessity of putting on evidence regarding the motivation of the Habermans in making the payments.

17

.The trustee's brief in the court of appeals (2006 WL 3671774) did not clearly identify this as an issue, making only passing reference to the fact that the Habermans had rescinded a reaffirmation agreement, but not arguing that this demonstrated that the payments were made on account of the lien, not on account of the *in personam*obligation to the bank. The bank did not file a brief in the court of appeals.

18

. The bankruptcy appellate panel reasoned that although a creditor holding a lien could recover more than the value of the collateral if the debtor elects to keep the collateral and pay the debt in full, “a creditor under that scenario could not rely on its lien on the collateral to ensure full recovery of the debt unless the collateral is worth at least as much as the debt.” 347 B.R. at 415. What the panel failed to acknowledge is that if the payments are made only to keep the collateral from being repossessed, the payments are necessarily made on account of the lienor's lien rights and constitute proceeds of that lien.

19

. As noted previously, that distinguishes *Ha-berman*from this case: the trustee in *Haber-man*apparently failed to argue that (and the *220court of appeals failed to inquire whether) the Habermans continued to make their monthly payments only because of the bank's *in rem*right under the lien to insist upon payment of the debt as the price for the Habermans’ avoiding repossession of the Trans Am, a lien right, which remained intact despite the intervention of bankruptcy. In this case, White *has*demonstrated that Wyatt continued to make his monthly payments only because of the *in rem*rights that existed pursuant to Wachovia's lien, and the record demonstrates that the intervention of bankruptcy barred Wachovia’s enforcing its *in personam*rights (and that such enforcement was eventually enjoined by the injunction arising from Wyatt's discharge).

20

. Even if this court were to follow *Haber-man,*application of that decision's holding to this case would not bar the court from permitting White to recover postpetition payments made by Wyatt to Wachovia in an amount designed to assure that he recovers the value of the lien as of the petition date. The parties have not established the value of the truck as of the petition date, making it inappropriate to award summary judgment in favor of White under this theory.

*Haberman*did not address the issue of prejudgment interest on the trustee's recovery of the value of the collateral on the petition date, apparently because the trustee did not raise that issue. Even if a trustee, in recovering postpetition payments, ought only to recover payments equal to the value of the collateral on the petition date, a dollar on the petition date is worth more than a dollar paid at a later date. If a court follows *Haberman,*the trustee ought to recover as well postpetition-prejudgment interest on the value of the collateral on the petition date at a rate determined by the bankruptcy judge. The issues of the entitlement to postpetition-prejudgment interest and the appropriate rate of such interest disappear if, as I conclude, *Haberman*ought not be followed and the trustee is entitled to recover as proceeds of the lien all of the postpetition payments secured by the lien and prompted only by the lien. Those necessarily include interest payments that take into account the time value of money.

21

. In affirming the bankruptcy appellate panel, the unpublished opinion issued by the court of appeals makes reference to the debt- or’s trial testimony, in which he apparently indicated that he intended the postpetition payments to reduce the amount of the car lien. *See Rubia,*2001 WL 1580933 (10th Cir. Dec.12, 2001) (not selected for publication in the Federal Reporter). He also testified, however, that he continued to pay the bank on another unsecured loan, and told the credit union that he intended to pay the credit union without distinguishing between his secured and unsecured loans. It is unclear what, if any, significance was given to this testimony by the trial court, and I mention it here only to note that the bank could theoretically have argued that the debtor intended to pay his debts in full, and that the payments to the credit union were in addition to the amounts that, on the petition date, could be recovered from the collateral. In that regard, the trustee put on no proof regarding the value of the collateral. Regardless, in *this*case it is unnecessary to speculate about Wyatt’s intentions because Wyatt's unrebutted affidavit testimony establishes that the postpe-tition payments were intended to reduce the lien on Wyatt's truck.

22

. In *Closson,*the court rested its decision on the trustee’s failure to point to any authority in the Bankruptcy Code for recovery of the postpetition payments. The trustee did not point to 11 U.S.C. § 541(a)(6) as a statutory basis upon which to recover the postpetition payments. Accordingly, *Closson*is not authority rejecting the utilization of § 541(a)(6) as a basis for recovering postpetition payments when the debtor only paid the debt to keep the collateral from being sold pursuant to the lienor's *in rem*rights and had no reason to pay the debt as a personal liability.

23

. For example, the debtor may have had an intent to pay the full amount of the debt, both the part secured by the value of the collateral and the unsecured part. If so, the record did not demonstrate the value of the collateral, and the trustee’s claim failed as a matter of proof.

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. Even the dissent recognized that the debt- or could have decided to make voluntary payments to the credit union on any portion of its claim that was not secured by the value of the collateral. (Here that is not a possibility because Wyatt intended all of the payments to be applied to reduce amounts secured by the lien.) The dissent reasoned that such a possibility did not exist because it assumed that the collateral must have been worth the entire amount of the debt. 257 B.R. at 330. The dissent accordingly concluded that the payments necessarily were on account of the lien. The majority rejected that assumption as speculation not supported by the record. 257 B.R. at 328 n. 4.

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. The debt secured by a lien includes any amounts accruing on the secured obligation after the petition date, and thus *Rubia*is wrong in referring to the amount of the claim on the petition date as a limiting factor. But that is a minor flaw compared to the major flaw implicit in the quoted passage.